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lunitik_justin: I think its just 'transcode' but yeah.... double check12:03
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_justinWhich binary?  It installs a dozen.12:04
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lunitik_justin: any mentioning 'transcode' or 'transset' etc?12:04
_justinthere's a transcode.12:04
_justinHm, just running the DVD doesn't work.  12:04
lunitik_justin: run that12:04
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lunitik_justin: it wouldn't, dvd's have different encodings depending on area of the world they are from...12:05
lunitik_justin: hence you need to configure which its to use12:05
_justinIt can't auto-detect?  I thought linux-based players ignored the region code.12:05
lunitik_justin: it probably should... and if it were an officially supported package, it likely would.... but no12:06
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strike4cewhat si the force command?12:06
_moohaadsudo not work12:06
strike4ceis12:06
lunitikstrike4ce: what exactly do you want to force... and why?12:07
lunitikstrike4ce: dpkg --force-help12:07
_justinHm.  transcode has about 30 config options, most of which i don't understand...12:08
strike4cesomeone wants to force the xorg-fglrx-driver over the official ATI driver12:08
strike4cedpkg --force-help12:08
lunitik_justin: have you ran 'transcode' yet? you just need to change region settings  :/12:08
lunitik_justin: I seem to remember it asking all of like 5 questions  :/12:09
strike4celunitik:  someone wants to force the xorg-fglrx-driver over the official ATI driver12:09
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_justinJust running transcode tells me to run with -h, which offers several dozen switches.12:09
lunitikstrike4ce: eh... just remove fglrx or whatever  :/12:10
Hentai-samai have a couple of discs (that i know of) that dont mount on kubuntu, but i can read them in xp with no problems12:10
Hentai-samasuggestions12:10
lunitikHentai-sama: kick it?12:11
strike4celunitik: I dont need to, but I already know that when you remove or try to remove the official ATI driver from ati it causes problems12:11
eric_Can someone help me with a compile error?12:11
lunitikstrike4ce: you can just change the driver... but I dunno what you put as driver to go with the open source version...12:12
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strike4celunitik: its from ATI rpm file12:13
lunitikstrike4ce: I think just 'Driver "ATI"'12:13
strike4cexorg 6.8......12:13
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lunitikstrike4ce: neither of those things matter  :/12:14
lunitikAlthough why you're using an RPM I have no idea  :/12:14
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strike4celunitik im not using it but it can be easily converted by alien12:16
_justinlunitik: running 'transcode' doesn't ask me anything.  It just gives me the about lines.12:16
lunitikstrike4ce: alien just edits the scripts involved... files are still placed as determined by the rpm...12:16
strike4celunitik:  yea, but thats not what Im talking about.  He is trying to uninstall the Official ATI driver from the ATI website set up for linnux.  It gets buggy when you uninstall it12:18
lunitikstrike4ce: just change the damn driver setting  :/12:19
lunitikstrike4ce: I think just 'ati'  :/12:19
strike4celunitik: I have the xorg package.12:19
lunitikstrike4ce: who cares?12:19
lunitikstrike4ce: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf   :/12:19
strike4celunitik:  LOL you;re real helpful12:20
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lunitikstrike4ce: sorry, I'm not as used to helping people not familier with the system as I used to be   :/12:21
strike4celunitik: no problem, Im not that familiar either12:22
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slow-motionn812:35
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dmFor the LIFE of me i cant get my wireless working, i have ndiswrapper installed, and it works, but anytime i have a WEP key on my router, my wifi card wont enable12:37
Juerddm: Catchphrases don't help12:39
Juerddm: What's your definition of "enable"?12:39
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dmjuerd in network settings, when i hit the button Enable interface, the wireless card enables for 1 second then stays disabled12:40
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Juerddm: Interesting. Do you know how to use a terminal?12:40
dmjuerd yeah... 12:40
Juerddm: What is the output of "sudo iwconfig"?12:41
Juerddm: Paste using a paste site, or in the #flood channel12:41
dmjuerd i was just going to paste it in pastebin12:42
dmjuerd its in flood12:43
Juerddm: I'll continue to help you there, to avoid having to switch all the time12:44
dmjuerd okie12:44
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flixorhya everybody 01:05
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dmIs it at all possible that my Ubuntu installation is corrupt ?? my wireless is screwed up back i cant get it to work no matter who helps me01:06
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Blissexdm: wireless is annoying, and using 'ndiswrapper' as you probably are, is unreliable.01:19
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_liquidbinary_hi!01:23
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kairu0hey all01:26
tarheelcoxnkairu0: greetings01:27
kairu0hey tarheel01:27
kairu0i'm loving my new kde setup01:28
kairu0but i'm not deleting my xubuntu partition yet ;)01:28
tarheelcoxn:)01:30
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c0rruptque pasa hombre01:43
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chxi am stupid but how can install/start ssh daemon?01:44
fatejudgerit should already be installed01:44
fatejudgerunless they took that out in Breezy01:44
moj0risingto install: sudo apt-get update01:44
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chxi bet it's on01:44
moj0risingto install: sudo apt-get install ssh01:44
moj0risinghm. not sure about package name actually.01:44
chxthat's my problem too01:45
fatejudgerjust go into apt and search for it01:45
fatejudgerif it's installed, then it's installed01:45
fatejudgerif not, you can instal lit01:45
moj0risingcheck by using synaptic.01:45
fatejudger*install it01:45
fatejudgeradept01:45
fatejudgerif you have Breezy01:45
chxthere is no *ssh* in /etc/init.d01:45
chxyes i have breezy01:45
moj0risingah. yeah. 01:45
fatejudgerchx: go into adept and search for SSH01:46
jsubl2sudo apt-cache search openssh01:47
tarheelcoxnchx: it's not in by default01:47
tarheelcoxnI discovered that last night01:47
tarheelcoxnthe packagename is openssh-server01:47
moj0risingyou can install rcconf for an easy way to start/ stop services at boot.01:47
c0rrupthow is everyone likeing breezy?.. worth upgrading?01:49
crimsunit's horrible, use MS-DOS 3.301:49
crimsun</trolling>01:49
at1asI like breezy, but it's been a mixed bag.01:50
tarheelcoxnlol01:50
at1asthe kernel seems to have gone through some serious changes.01:50
tarheelcoxnc0rrupt: better kernel, better... just better01:50
at1asThe Cisco VPN client I use likes to completely crash the system if my wireless NIC loses signal for a moment.01:51
at1asVMware needs some workarounds to work right.01:51
chxopenssh-server?01:51
chxthanks01:52
at1asThe Kontact IMAP GroupWare stuff works now.01:52
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tarheelcoxnthat was an interesting parting shot01:52
at1asMoving mail with a "M" opens the folder dialog.... but typing the folder name doesn't work.01:52
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at1asKDE now automounts media when it's connect.  Pretty nice feature unless you use it on your forensics workstation... :\01:53
fatejudgerat1as: it always did that01:53
fatejudgerat1as: well, it did it on Hoary01:54
Riddellfatejudger: hoary didn't automount, you had to find it in media:/ and mount01:54
Riddellat1as: why don't you want it on your foresnsics wokstation?01:54
kairu0i ran kcontrol once and now i cant get my desktop up (it loads an empty gray panel and no desktop). how can i recover?01:54
Riddellkairu0: try looking in ~/.xsession-errors ?01:55
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kairu0Riddell, what should i look for in it?01:57
kairu0Riddell, what about "Cannot create /dev/X"01:58
at1asriddell: Because attaching a drive to take an image of it should *not* mount it, otherwise crucial time stamps can be lost.01:58
fatejudgerRiddell: it would always automount my cdroms01:58
Riddellfatejudger: spooky :)02:01
Riddellat1as: kill ivman to stop it02:01
Riddellat1as: KDE 3.5 will have more friendly wys to configure it02:02
Riddellkairu0: that seems a possibility02:02
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chxhow can i find all files in a dir and subdir that is not named foo? even, if it does not start with f, it's fine. find . -regex ... but how i go on?02:03
javbwhere can i find a tool under KDE Kubuntu to use the "keys combinations" under  GNOME Ubuntu02:04
javb....?02:05
tarheelcoxnjavb: I've tried to figure that out02:06
tarheelcoxnyou might want to ask some KDE people02:06
tarheelcoxnie. in a different channel02:06
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tarheelcoxnbe aware that some of them are already assigned to other things02:08
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moj0risingchx, try man find02:16
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at1asRiddell:  I actually just removed the user from the plugdev group for a short-term fix.  Can I get away with renaming ivman so it doesn't start?02:22
at1asDon't get me wrong about Breezy.  I love it.  There are just a few annoyances.02:23
Riddellat1as: edit startkde02:23
at1asI run kdm, will that still make a diff?02:24
Riddellyes, kdm calls startkde02:24
at1asWhat I *love* is that they fixed it so you can install on MD devices like software-raid1 and LVM.02:24
RiddellMD?02:25
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skwashdhi all02:26
Riddellhi skwashd 02:26
skwashdhi Riddell 02:26
skwashdshould the breezy version of kdepim be groupdav enabled ?02:26
skwashdkdepim 3.4 supports it ... but i can't seem to find the options in the breezy version :(02:27
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Knowerrorsanybody here use this? http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf02:27
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skwashdKnowerrors: looks similar to the mirrormax.net repositories02:30
skwashdwhich i use for some stuff i need ... and the stuff there seems to work pretty well02:30
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Knowerrorsjust wonder if thats a better place to get extras than nerim malrat02:31
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Knowerrorsneed a good place to get my w32codecs and such02:31
skwashdKnowerrors: use mirrormax.net then02:32
skwashdrepos are listed in ubuntuguide.org02:32
RiddellKnowerrors: PLF should be in the future, currently marillat02:33
jsubl2Knowerrors: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:33
Riddellplf only has very few packages currently as far as I can see02:34
jsubl2wget http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb02:34
Knowerrorsso is marillat better or mirrormax?02:34
skwashdKnowerrors: last i checked marillat didn't go so well with ubuntu ... as it is designed for debian sarge02:36
skwashdthats when i switched to mirrormax02:36
Knowerrorsso jsubl2 : why use that giannaros file instead of mirrormax, or are they both good?02:39
jsubl2Knowerrors: it is the one from the wiki link02:41
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jsubl2Knowerrors: you should check the wiki for some of your questions.. the documentation tends to be real good there02:42
skwashdubuntuguide.org is pretty good for finding out which packages are good for what too ... even tho it is more gnome targetted 02:43
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jsubl2ubuntuguide is out of date and lacks explanations02:43
poimenchecking for KDE... configure: error:02:43
poimenin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.02:43
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poimenSo, check this please and use another prefix!02:43
poimenwhat the heck I am using kubuntu02:43
poimen:( what can I do?02:43
poimen./configure what??02:43
skwashdjsubl2: not much ... but i suppose i know which bits to ignore/change02:44
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Knowerrorsthx jsubl2 and skwashd , will do some reading...02:47
skwashdKnowerrors: np ... and good luck getting things working as you want them to work02:48
Knowerrorsbtw, is this line ready to add yet "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse"02:48
Knowerrorssaw that in sources.list02:48
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skwashdKnowerrors: should be02:48
jsubl2i don't think backports is up yet02:49
Knowerrorssomeone I talked to said it can be activated now, but the line needs a small change, forget what it was02:51
poimensomeone kwons if k9copy have been ported to .deb ????02:51
`NomadIs there a recommended TV app?  Or at least a better one?02:51
drolyktvtime02:52
Knowerrorsxawtv02:52
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_carlosBuenas Noches02:53
KnowerrorsIve tried both, like xawtv because it uses less cpu power02:53
`Nomadok02:53
`Nomadwill test both :)02:53
drolykI want to ask why mencoder depends on xmms ?02:53
jsubl2it has xxms input plugin support built in02:55
jsubl2xxms/xmms02:55
chiiisn't there a configure switch to turn it off?02:55
jsubl2yes if you roll your own02:55
drolykI realy doesn`t want xmms02:56
drolyk:(02:56
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jsubl2it is easier to take xmms than to get all the depends and source and build02:56
dmHey guys , when the OS is loading how do i get kubuntu with blue text instead of  Ubuntu with all that brown text to show up02:57
dmanyone?02:58
jsubl2http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#installfromubuntu02:58
drolykjsubl2: Is there any apt-source where I can get ktorrent-1.1 ?02:59
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dmjsubl2 no no i have KDE installed, i want it so that when i turn on my comp and select ubuntu from GRUB that blue text and kubuntu show up , not ubuntu and it being all brown02:59
dmjsubl2 its a wierd request but i had it on my last installation02:00
jsubl2kubuntu splash02:00
jsubl2or kdm02:01
at1asOne nice thing about using Breezy, I was able to find transcode again (it disappeared from Hoary's backports/extras repos)02:01
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jsubl2sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm02:01
jsubl2and select kdm...02:02
dmjsubl2 that part works, but before that.. where it lists all its loading..02:02
jsubl2the splash... yeah i would like to know that too02:02
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dmjpatrick you still there?02:08
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Knowerrorsanyone know if breezy extas repos are up?02:10
tarheelcoxnKnowerrors: you mean the backports?02:12
dmHey guys , when the OS is loading how do i get kubuntu with blue text instead of  Ubuntu with all that brown text to show up02:13
Knowerrorstarheelcoxn: I suspose02:13
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dmanyone know how to change the background color of Konsole, that black is annoying!02:15
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oggb4mp3Hi02:16
soundmaster80hi, i would like to know how to make moving the windows between dual monitors more like windows...this is the only thing i lack in completely changing02:16
oggb4mp3you want xinerama02:16
Knowerrorssettings>schema02:16
soundmaster80well, i have twinview setup with nvidia02:16
oggb4mp3me too02:16
oggb4mp3works great02:16
_carlos_venezuelchanging the konsole bckgnd color: go to preferencias->esquema02:17
soundmaster80however, the example is if i move a window from mon1 to mon2 it doesn't just snap in place02:17
soundmaster80i know that's not real specific02:17
oggb4mp3is the kubuntu kernel patched for win4lin by any chance?02:17
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oggb4mp3those are window behaviors02:18
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oggb4mp3look in kcontrol02:18
soundmaster80LOL, i have all over the place 02:18
dmany guides on installing OPERA?02:18
soundmaster80and tried messing with different settings 02:18
soundmaster80just wondered if anyone in here has been annoyed with this and fixed it02:18
oggb4mp3soundmaster80: Desktop => window behavior02:19
oggb4mp3Moving tab => snap zones02:19
soundmaster80ok, lemmie reboot and try that 02:19
Knowerrorstarheelcoxn: actually no, breezy extras, not back ports02:20
toddhow can i can i change the icon used for K menu?02:20
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tarheelcoxndm: I know it's different if you use a Kubuntu install CD02:26
slicslakfor some reason apt-get can't find proftpd.  any advice?02:27
tarheelcoxnslicslak: you know that that's the package name?02:27
slicslaktarheelcoxn, definitely.  it's a common package02:30
tarheelcoxnslicslak: apt-cache search proftpd02:31
tarheelcoxnslicslak: I get nine packages back when I do that02:32
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tarheelcoxnincluding one 'proftpd'02:32
jesusfishis there an audio convertor (flac to mp3) for KDE?02:33
dmtarheelcoxn i installed ubuntu then KDE about 2 hours ago and jpatrick had me install some stuff to get some program working, and that changed it to kubuntu splash before kdm loaded, like kubuntu cd install, but i had to reinstall ubuntu because it was corrupt, i HAD it but i dont remember what i installed02:33
jsubl2dm: i found out how to change the boot splash02:35
dmjsubl2 to the blue text and blue kubuntu?02:36
jsubl2yeah02:36
dmjsugl2 cool how02:36
jsubl2dm check ls /usr/lib/usplash/kubuntu-splash.so  you got that file02:36
slicslaktarheelcoxn, i think apt-get is screwed.  i get a bunch of error messages at startup02:37
dmjsubl2 yes02:37
jsubl2rm /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so && ln -s /usr/lib/usplash/kubuntu-splash.so /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so02:37
jsubl2 dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)02:38
jsubl2worked for me02:38
jsubl2i like the blue better also02:38
Knowerrorstarheelcoxn: like they mention here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70815&highlight=breezy+extras02:38
dmjsubl2 permision denied02:38
tarheelcoxnKnowerrors: ahh02:38
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jsubl2sudo -i02:38
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tarheelcoxn'bout to drive home02:38
tarheelcoxnttyl, folks02:38
_jonathani was just wondering if anyone had noticed a problem with konsole 02:39
befordwhat problem02:39
dmjsubl2 got it, is that it?02:39
_jonathancharacters around the bottom and right side02:39
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jsubl2dm:  dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)02:39
_jonathani'm assuming after a certain size02:40
dmjsubl2 o  ok im going to reboot hehe :)02:40
jsubl2good luck02:41
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_jonathanno one has noticed this, i tried to change schema's and it happened02:41
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_jonathanone other question, if i uncomment the backports repository i have issues with apt-get update...anyone seen this?02:44
jsubl2backports for breezy is not out yet02:45
_jonathanok, that answers that02:45
_jonathanjsubl2: to my first question have you noticed the konsole putting characters on the lower and right side after changing schemas02:46
jsubl2_jonathan: no but i only change schemas once when setting it up. then generally don't touch it02:46
_jonathanwell that's what i'm doing...but i was having issues with that02:47
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dmwhat the heck is Debconf ?02:58
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jsubl2dm did it work03:00
dmjsubl203:00
jsubl2the boot splash03:00
dmjsubl2 havent rebooted yet, was updating, now it says Debconf on dmlinux, what is this, right after i do a full update03:01
jsubl2not sure03:01
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dmJsubl2 it didnt work, no boot splash displayed03:24
dmjsubl2 what was the other command03:24
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jsubl2dm ls -l /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so03:25
dmjsubl2 no such file or dir.03:25
dmjsubl2 shit how do i fix that :(03:26
delltonywhats going on guys?03:26
delltonyanyone know if there is a program to do webcams with gaim yet?03:26
jsubl2ln -s /usr/lib/usplash/kubuntu-splash.so /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so03:26
dmjsubl2 ok what now?03:26
jsubl2dm you have to sudo -i first03:27
jsubl2ln -s /usr/lib/usplash/kubuntu-splash.so /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so03:27
dmjsubl2 i did , last command worked, anything else?>03:27
jsubl2 dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)03:27
jsubl2now what does ls -l /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so say03:28
dmno such file03:28
dmoh wait, nm03:29
dmdidnt have .so on there03:29
dmlrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 34 Oct 29 22:26 /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so -> /usr/lib/usplash/kubuntu-splash.so03:29
jsubl2now run the  dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)03:29
jsubl2you are all set03:30
dmlooks like it worked03:30
dmok rebooting  , ill be back :)03:30
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dmhow do i make KDM my default login gui03:34
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_carlos_venezuelhow do i make KDM my default login gui : dpgk -reconfigure kdm (i think)03:45
_carlos_venezuelhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/03:47
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nalioth_carlos_venezuel: please dont blindly advise ubuntuguide, it is very out of date for use with breezy and will break it03:48
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dmWhat fonts do i have to install to see some text on flash based sites?03:51
flixor-bedhow can i put a message on the desktop on my computer home 04:00
flixor-bedor is that not possible04:00
flixor-bedcan i do it with wall 04:01
naliothflixor-bed: of course a wallpaper can be anything you like04:01
naliothflixor-bed: use gimp and whip you one up04:01
flixor-bedlol04:02
flixor-bedno what i meant was i am logged on to my computer with ssh 04:02
flixor-bedbut my father is allso working on that same compuer 04:03
flixor-bedcomputer04:03
flixor-bedso i thought it would be funny to send him a message :)04:03
flixor-bedlike hallo dad how is linux 04:03
_carlos_venezuelhow can i put a message on the desktop on my computer home <- check "superkaramba" or "karamba"04:03
_carlos_venezueloooooooh04:04
flixor-bedbut _carlos_venezuel i have a connection with ssh to my box 04:04
_carlos_venezuelok ok sorry, i missunderstood04:04
flixor-bedehm no problem 04:04
flixor-bed:)04:04
befordman talk04:05
flixor-bedthat is for me beford 04:06
befordyep04:06
tarheelcoxnflixor-bed: why not just put a text file named "hello" in his desktop folder?04:07
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tarheelcoxnnot what you're looking for, but quick04:08
_carlos_venezuelhow can i put a message on the desktop on my computer home <- what u can do is put a txt file on his desktop04:08
_carlos_venezuelahh ok sorry, ejejeje too late04:08
_carlos_venezueljejeje :-$04:09
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bobesponjahey all04:10
bobesponjaabout breezy and breezy-update in sources.list , can I uncomment both or do I need to chose?04:10
naliothbobesponja: only leave commented the line with breezy-backports04:12
bobesponjanalioth: thx04:12
bobesponjanalioth: is there a package to help configure the net connection?04:12
Gunsmithhi everybody, could anyone help me with a dual-screen setup?? i'm completely new to linux and need some help with it. any help would be much appreciated04:12
naliothbobesponja: what kind of net connection?04:13
naliothhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors?highlight=%28monitor%2904:13
bobesponjanalioth: I connect to a gateway04:13
flixor-bedthanks tarheelcoxn thats was most effective lol 04:14
Gunsmiththanks nalioth.. i'll check it out04:14
naliothbobesponja: i'm not much on fancy connections. dhcp should take care of things for you, if your gateway has dhcp04:14
flixor-bedanyway i am going to bed, everybody a very nice evening or night and goodbuy 04:14
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bobesponjanalioth: it doesn't, i usually use a package called netcardconfig in debian04:15
_carlos_venezuelflixor-bed: me too, c'ya all, take care :-p04:15
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strike4ceAnyone have firestarter firewall?04:18
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strike4ce!firestarter04:23
ubotusomebody said firestarter was Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic04:23
tarheelcoxnmmmm04:28
tarheelcoxnI'm having a DMA problem04:28
tarheelcoxnhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA04:28
tarheelcoxn^^ I followed that04:28
tarheelcoxnincluding the "troubleshoot" section04:28
tarheelcoxns/troubleshoot/troubleshooting/04:28
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tarheelcoxnbut I still get HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted04:29
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fatejudgerwhy is it that Linux takes longer to boot than Windows?04:41
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naliothfatejudger: because linux is not meant to be started every day04:44
tarheelcoxnI'm having trouble with hostap04:55
tarheelcoxnand there doesn't seem to be anything about it in the wiki04:55
tarheelcoxnshall I look up debian resources?04:55
naliothtarheelcoxn: ubuntu is based on debian04:56
tarheelcoxnnalioth: I know04:58
tarheelcoxnI was just asking if there was some "official" ubuntu something on hostap04:58
naliothtarheelcoxn: i've never heard of one 04:58
Delviennalioth Do you know something other than what ubotu links to install mp3 playback05:01
naliothDelvien: install gstreamer0.8-mad05:01
tarheelcoxn./debian/rules binary-modules KSRC=/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.1205:02
tarheelcoxngot it05:02
Delviennalioth i did that, and registered it too but i still cant play mp3s with amaroK05:02
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fatejudgernalioth: I have to start Linux a lot since I put it on my laptop05:02
fatejudgernalioth: there must be a better reason as to why it takes longer05:03
Delviennalioth i can play them with Noatun though05:03
naliothi'm not that knowlegable about mp3 playback05:04
Delviennalioth ok can you ubotu me ? :)05:05
Delviennalioth i dont know the keyword05:05
naliothDelvien: are you registered?05:05
Delviennalioth yep05:06
Delviennalioth <-- dmlinux05:06
Delviennalioth or "iam " hehe05:06
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naliothubotu: tell Delvien about yourself05:08
sadistic_kittendoes anyone know where I can get the packages "kdelibs4" and "libqt3c102-mt" 'cause I can't get them through apt05:08
Delviennalioth would it be possible if you could paste your breezy sources.list if at all possible?05:10
naliothubotu: tell Delvien about sources05:11
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DelvienE: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate.. anyone know the repo for this one05:13
_thiagohi people, does anybody know how do I upgrade my kernel ?05:13
naliothubotu: tell Delvien about w32deb05:13
naliothDelvien: if you visit the URL ubotu gave you when he introduced himself, you wont need us anymore05:13
sadistic_kittenis anyonce willing to help me...05:14
sadistic_kitten*anyone05:14
_thiagofala seu filho da puta bobesponja!05:14
_thiagobobesponja vc  i fdp05:14
Delvienlol but then i wouldnt get the joy of talking to a human being... lol05:14
nalioth_thiago: do you like it here?05:14
_thiagolike what?05:15
nalioth_thiago: that language is not welcome here05:15
strike4ceDamn I installed firestarter from adept and I cant find it anywhere?05:15
beford_thiago, fdp viado, no fales aqui 05:16
_thiagook, Im brazilian ok? I speak portuguese besides english, im just trying to call bobespoja05:16
_thiagohu.... why are u nerds so angry?05:16
naliothsadistic_kitten: _thiago i dont call my friends such things, please be considerate05:16
strike4ceanyone know how I can find it easy?05:16
naliothstrike4ce: k > run program > "kdesu firestarter"05:17
befordaHUAHUahAhu _thiago called us nerds, he must be the coolest brazilian ever.05:17
_thiagoWhy dont u go suck your linux boxes,u bunch of idiot gay nerds!!05:17
beford_thiago, do you need help to upgrade your kernel?05:17
Delvienits a torrent ! GAH05:17
_thiagoyeah I was trying to, but now I thiink people are offended with my language...huuu05:18
naliothDelvien: change 'hoarydeb' to 'breezydeb' in the URL05:18
sadistic_kittenwouldn't idiot and nerds be a contridiction?05:18
naliothwow what a temper05:18
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naliothsadistic_kitten: do you have universe and multiverse enabled?05:19
Delviennalioth there is a breezy link 05:19
naliothDelvien: if it goes to a torrent, change the url as i mentioned05:19
Delvieno05:19
sadistic_kittenoh about my question nvmd I'm on www1.apt-get.org and am about to updat my sources.list05:19
naliothsadistic_kitten: please dont do that05:20
naliothsadistic_kitten: debian binaries dont play well with ubuntu05:21
befordsadistic_kitten, use www.ubuntuguide.org 05:21
naliothsadistic_kitten: the libs you mentioned are available05:21
naliothbeford: please dont advise that either05:21
befordok dont05:21
nalioth!ubuntuguide05:21
ubotuit has been said that ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.05:21
sadistic_kittenummm ok then05:22
befordthen just use ubuntulinux.com repositories05:22
naliothubotu: tell sadistic_kitten about repos05:22
naliothsadistic_kitten: enable universe and multiverse05:22
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naliothyou'll find your libs there05:23
sadistic_kittennalioth: you mean in my sources.list...?05:24
naliothsadistic_kitten: enable universe and multiverse in your sources.list ,yes05:24
sadistic_kittenI think I already have...05:24
sadistic_kittenhold on05:25
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sadistic_kittennalioth: umm that's for hoary does that matter much?05:27
sadistic_kittennalioth: or do I have to change where it says "hoary" to "breezy"?05:28
naliothsadistic_kitten: are you using breezy? then use the breezy sources05:28
naliothubotu: tell sadistic_kitten about sources05:28
Delviennalioth easier way to get w32codecs here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7944905:28
strike4cenalioth: Firestarter is going.  I want an icon though.  Is there anyway I can get one on my menu or desktop?05:29
naliothstrike4ce: right click on your kicker and add one05:29
naliothstrike4ce: of use the kde menu editor05:29
strike4cenalioth: Its not there already tried that05:30
naliothusing debian repos may seem easy now, but using them more than a few updates will lead to trouble05:30
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strike4ceCant find the damn thing!  Its a gnome app05:34
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endo602hell05:34
endo602o05:34
endo602can someone help me setting up samba05:34
endo602or mounting a windows drive through samba05:34
endo602?05:34
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sadistic_kittennalioth: it still doesn't work...05:36
sadistic_kittenwould you like to see the error message?05:36
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nalioth!info kdelibs405:37
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naliothgrumble grumble05:37
naliothsadistic_kitten: no installation candidate or no package found, right?05:38
sergiohi I have aproblem burning cds, does anybody can help me?05:38
sadistic_kittenyeh05:38
naliothsadistic_kitten: like living on the edge?05:38
sadistic_kittenno05:38
sergioand I want to know how to add repocitories to sources.list05:38
sadistic_kittenbut what have you got in mind?05:38
naliothubotu: tell sergio about repos05:38
naliothi got a URL for kde 3.5 beta05:40
sadistic_kittennalioth: you talking to me...?05:40
naliothsadistic_kitten: i see kdelibs4 available in breezy05:41
endo602can someone help me setting up samba?05:41
naliothboth on my network and at packages.ubuntu.com05:41
naliothubotu: tell endo602 about samba05:41
endo602thanks05:41
sadistic_kittenyeah well I don't know why it isn't working for me then05:41
naliothsadistic_kitten: can you pastebin your sources.list ?05:42
nalioth!paste05:42
ubotupaste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text05:42
sadistic_kittenyeah hold on05:43
sergioi alredy try to open adept and it says "imposible to execute the command"05:43
endo602is there a way to mount a samba drive to my laptop form my desktop?05:45
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sadistic_kittennalioth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/381105:46
_jonathanhas anyone had problems installing build-essential on 5.1005:47
naliothsadistic_kitten: is that yours from your box?05:47
nalioth_jonathan: none at all05:48
_jonathani'm getting gcc and g++ dep errors05:48
sadistic_kittenuhhh yeah 05:48
sadistic_kittenI got it from the example on pastebin05:48
_jonathantry to gcc and g++ and i have problems there too05:48
naliothsadistic_kitten: on a terminal or console, type "apt-cache search kdelibs4"05:49
sadistic_kittenk05:49
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sadistic_kittenit came up with kdelibs4-dev kdelibs4-doc kdelibs4c2 kdelibs4c2-dbg05:51
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MassacrationGood night everyonde05:52
sadistic_kittennn05:52
MassacrationCan u people help me with a doubt?05:52
naliothsadistic_kitten: isn't that what you are looking for?05:53
naliothMassacration: ask05:53
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sadistic_kittenwell I don't know because it is still listing it as a dependency...05:53
MassacrationCAn I update my 385 kernel to a 686 ? I running my kubuntu in a pentium III box05:53
naliothMassacration: yes of course05:53
sadistic_kittenit wants just plain "kdelibs4"05:54
Massacrationhow do I do that?05:54
naliothsadistic_kitten: i suspect it wants kdelibs4-dev05:54
Massacration?05:55
naliothMassacration: open adept and find the 686 kernel and have adept install it05:56
sadistic_kittennalioth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/381205:56
Massacrationits only that?05:56
naliothsadistic_kitten: AH! the light dawns now. where did you get the deb?05:56
Massacrationand when I restart my machine? will it run properly?05:56
sadistic_kittenhttp://kaligames.de/?pid=downloads/soundkonverter&ref=http://kaligames.de/downloads/soundkonverter/05:57
naliothMassacration: there should be no problems at all05:57
naliothsadistic_kitten: does soundkonverter have a homepage with source code?05:57
sadistic_kittennalioth: but other programs I have tried to install also list that dependency05:57
sadistic_kittenyeah hold on05:58
naliothsadistic_kitten: you are trying to install non ubuntu stuff, i suspect05:58
Massacrationwill it improve my performance?05:58
sadistic_kittenhttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29024&forummode=2&forumpage=2&forumexplevel=0&forumthread=117058#c11705805:58
Massacrationdoes this upodate worth? or is it too risk?05:58
naliothMassacration: only if you have more then 768mb of ram in the box05:58
MassacrationI have only 384mb05:59
naliothsadistic_kitten: grab the source pkg from there, please05:59
MassacrationSo it doesnt worth, does it?05:59
naliothMassacration: i'd stay with your i386 kernel05:59
Massacrationok thanks so much06:00
sergioplease tell me how i can enable adept06:00
naliothsergio: adept is standard in kubuntu breezy06:00
Massacrationanother doubt, about sound systems... why I cannot run sounds in two programs at the same time?06:00
sadistic_kittenyeah I have tried doing it from source but it doesn't work either and I thought a deb might work...06:00
nalioththe deb is wanting debian libs06:01
naliothsadistic_kitten: you'll need to find a deb that is made for ubuntu06:01
naliothusing ubuntu libs06:01
sadistic_kittendamn06:01
sadistic_kittenok06:01
Massacration?06:01
naliothubotu: tell Massacration about sound06:02
sadistic_kittennalioth: there isn't one06:03
Massacrationit doesnt work in more than one program at the same time06:03
sadistic_kittenwhat about an ebuild how do they work?06:03
Massacrationi runnig breezy06:03
naliothsadistic_kitten: an 'ebuild' is something gentoo uses06:03
sadistic_kittendamn06:03
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sadistic_kittennalioth: can you read the comments I'm having the same problem as the first guy but I don't know how to fix it06:06
sadistic_kittenhttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29024&forummode=2&forumpage=2&forumexplevel=106:06
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sadistic_kittennalioth: ?06:08
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naliothsadistic_kitten: sorry, was reading the homepage06:09
sadistic_kittenk06:09
naliothsadistic_kitten: lesen sie deutsch?06:09
sadistic_kittengwah??06:10
sadistic_kittenumm no..06:10
naliothsadistic_kitten: you need to install taglib and taglib * -dev06:11
naliothsadistic_kitten: kde-devel and perhaps some other kde dev pkgs06:11
sadistic_kittenI tried to and it didn't work06:11
naliothtried to what?06:11
sadistic_kitteninstall taglib and taglib-dev06:12
naliothsadistic_kitten: they may have numbers in the names06:13
sadistic_kittennalioth: I've got to go now I'll try and fix it later tonight, thanks for the help so far...06:13
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naliothah, too late06:17
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_pedrohi06:21
stbainhi06:21
stbainbye06:22
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Black_ChaosI was messing around with the setting on a program. The settings I was playing with were the special window settings. Under "Workarounds" I changed Window Type to Desktop. Now it is stuck like that.06:33
Black_ChaosAny idea how to change it back??06:33
naliothBlack_Chaos: obvious question. have you reversed your procedure?06:33
Black_ChaosWell I can't seem to get back to the settings dialog. The top bar is missing so I can't click the icon to open the menu, and alt+F3 doesn't bring it up either.06:35
naliothBlack_Chaos: this is kde?06:36
Black_Chaosyep06:36
nalioththe windows key doensnt bring up the k menu?06:37
Black_Chaosummm...don't think so. But i don't need the K menu06:38
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kkathmanevening all :)06:41
kkathmanwell good morning in some places I suppose06:41
naliothprofessor kkathman may be of help, Black_Chaos 06:41
kkathmanevening sir nalioth :)06:42
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kkathmanhow are you tonight nalioth :)06:43
Black_Chaosok kkathman, maybe you can help me out. Here's what I was doing:06:43
naliothkkathman: ok. yourself?06:44
Black_ChaosI was messing around with the setting on a program. The settings I was playing with were the special window settings. Under "Workarounds" I changed Window Type to Desktop. Now it is stuck like that.06:44
kkathmanBlack_Chaos: are you under standard kubuntu, or one of the KDE betas?06:45
kkathmanI am ok nalioth...had to get some antibiotics today though...fighting off some sinusitis and brochitis :)06:45
Black_Chaosstandard kubuntu06:45
Black_Chaoskde ver 3.4.306:45
kkathmanBlack_Chaos: and you installed from scratch or upgraded from hoary?06:45
naliothkkathman: plenty or orange juice for you06:46
Black_Chaosupgraded from hoary06:46
kkathmanyes yes06:46
kkathmanOk thanx...would you mind telling me what program you were working with when this happened?06:46
Black_Chaosbasically I was trying to get my desktop 4 to be my terminal. So I opened Konsole, went to the advanced window settings and set No Border, put konsole in full screen mode, then started messing with those special windows settings06:48
kkathmanahhh.. ok06:48
kkathmanctrl-m should get your menu bar back I think06:49
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Black_Chaosnope that's just like hitting enter in konsole. But, then menu bar is there. Its the top bar, umm, the one that has the name and close/minimize buttons06:51
kkathmanIve never danced in that windows setting area tho06:51
kkathmanahhh06:51
Black_Chaosneither have I. Thats why I was playing with it. lol06:51
kkathmanBlack_Chaos: what happens when you hit ctrl-alt-m06:52
Black_Chaosbrings up the Session drop down menu06:53
kkathmancan you move laterally after that...to the right with arrow keys06:53
kkathman?06:53
Black_Chaosyes06:53
kkathmanthen also ctrl-shft-F should toggle you out of fullscreen mode06:54
kkathmanonce you can get to the menu you should be able to get to Settings and reset the menubar I think06:55
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Black_Chaosyeah see cause I set that special windows setting to desktop mode, its basically running in the desktop space, so that doesn't affect anything06:55
kkathmanoh really?06:56
kkathmanhmm06:56
Black_Chaosthe setting would be a KDE window setting and not a Konsole setting I would think06:56
kkathmando you have a little down arrow on your border for the konsole...or can you get to a dialog that has like "Advanced" "To Desktop"  etc06:58
kkathmanI was going to see if you could get back to that setting dialog and hit "default" and get back06:59
Black_Chaossee thats where I'm screwed, cause the border is gone. and usually alt+f3 pulls that menu up but its not06:59
kkathmanjust out of curiousity, have you rebooted to see if it will reset?06:59
Black_Chaosnot yet06:59
Black_Chaosdid log out and back in06:59
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kkathmanhow about ctrl-alt-backspace?07:02
kkathmanthat will kill the current X and restart07:02
naliothummmm killing X07:02
Massacrationhow do I update open office to the final release?07:03
kkathmanI think that came from you, nalioth, as a suggestion that worked for someone the other night :)07:03
naliothmoi? kill something? horrors07:03
kkathmanrofl07:03
Black_ChaosI think I'll reboot, see what that does07:03
kkathmanwell its worth a chance, worst thing they'd have to reboot07:03
kkathmanthat'll work too07:03
kkathmanI was thinking that settings that are changed by applications are stored by each application in some settings file, but I dont know where07:06
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Black_Chaosno luck07:08
kkathmanarggh07:08
Black_Chaosexactly07:09
kkathmanwow this is a real puzzler07:09
kkathmanso when you reboot, where does your system boot to?07:09
naliothkkathman: pssst ~/.kde07:09
Black_Chaoslike runlevel or what??07:10
kkathmanyes...but that contains settings for each application?07:10
naliothkkathman: look in yours07:10
kkathmanBlack_Chaos: no, I mean, when it boots, what are you looking at when it finally completes the boot process07:10
Black_Chaosthe kde login manager07:11
naliothbrb, gonna get rid of this nasty gigabit router07:11
kkathmanBlack_Chaos: and you login and it takes you where?07:12
Black_Chaosto basic kde07:12
kkathmanok07:13
kkathmanso the issue then is that konsole is still acting up right?07:14
Black_Chaosyeah07:14
kkathmanso ok07:14
kkathmanlets try something off the cuff here07:14
Black_Chaosk07:14
kkathmanlets see if you can edit a file:  ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole  with whatever your favorite editor is (i.e. kdesu kwrite)07:15
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kkathmanBlack_Chaos: here's what my file of that looks like:07:17
bearchithi~07:17
kkathman[Desktop Entry] 07:17
kkathmanCwd=07:17
kkathmanExec=bash07:17
kkathmanFont=607:17
kkathmanIcon=openterm07:17
kkathmanKeyTab=07:17
kkathmanName=Linux Console07:17
kkathmanSchema=Linux.schema07:17
kkathmanTerm=linux07:17
kkathmanType=KonsoleApplication07:17
kkathmansorry to paste, but there isnt much going on right now07:17
Black_ChaosI went to that specified path but its just a folder07:18
kkathmanoh sorry07:19
kkathmanduh07:19
kkathmanopen the file linux.desktop07:19
kkathmansilly me07:19
kkathmansee if its like mine above07:20
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kkathmannalioth :)07:23
kkathmanoops something happened :)07:23
naliothmuch nicer07:23
kkathmannalioth: did you happen to point him to the linux.desktop in the ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole/linux.desktop file?07:24
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Black_ChaosAHAHA WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH07:24
Black_ChaosI fixed it!!!07:25
kkathman??07:25
kkathmanexcellent :)07:25
kkathmanwhat did you do?07:25
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kkathmannalioth: this is a dumb question, so please dont revoke my professorial priviledges ..07:27
Black_ChaosOK when you open that special settings dialog, it says the program is KWin. So I went to my home folder and .kde/share/config and was looking through the config files. Found one called kwinrulesrc. Opened it up and it had some konsole settings. So I backed the file up. deleted the main one and restarted X07:28
kkathmangood job!!07:28
kkathmanexcellent :)07:28
naliothBlack_Chaos: easy pleasy07:28
Black_Chaosyeah ;)07:28
kkathmanwell we at least got you pointed in the right direction I suppose :)07:29
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Black_Chaosyeah, just needed some other ideas while I searched for the config file07:29
kkathmanhehe always gratifying when the human wins :)07:30
naliothkkathman: your dumb question?07:30
kkathmanis a tgz file the same as a gz??07:30
kkathmanbasically?07:30
kkathmanI mean can I still do a tar xvzf on it?07:31
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naliothkkathman: tgz = tar.gz  tbz or tbz2 (not used often <if at all>) = tar.bz207:32
Black_Chaosdang beat me07:33
kkathmanso I can just tar xvzf foo.tgz then?07:33
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naliothkkathman: foo away07:34
kkathmanlol07:35
Black_Chaosok one last ? for the night07:35
Black_ChaosDo you know any way to change the little icon that is on the title bar, in the upper left hand corner?07:36
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kkathmanIm off to bed for the evening guys...gotta get some rest to fight this infection :)07:37
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Black_Chaosalright, thanks for the help. I gotta hit the sack.07:45
Black_Chaoslater07:45
ravenmo07:45
ravenno07:45
persoontjeDo you know of it is possible to use gecko with konqueror instead of khtml?07:47
ravenis there anything i need to know or keep in mind.. going to install kubuntu for the firts time07:47
persoontje(sorry for my english, but do you understand it) :D07:47
naliothpersoontje: it is possible07:48
ravenpersoontje it is gecko07:48
nalioth!hardware07:48
ubotuhmm... hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport07:48
persoontjebut how can I do that?07:49
raventry setting-->browers ident....07:50
ravenlook trhere07:50
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persoontjeI think that doesn't work, konq says than that  he is gecko but he uses khtml07:51
raventhen use mozilla :P07:51
naliothpersoontje: i use galeon as my primary browser and konqueror as my secondary browser (some things dont render well under gecko)07:53
ravenhmm is there no root in ubuntu07:53
naliothubotu: tell raven about root07:53
persoontjeokay i will try galeon (now apt-getting it)07:54
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ravennalioth thxz07:58
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noppiehello08:24
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azertyuuuhey all , i need to delete opera , but sudo dpkg -r opera  is being ignored .... can anyone help me08:48
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naliothazertyuuu: did you install it using apt-get?08:49
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azertyuuunalioth no, downloaded and isntalled bt dpgk -i08:49
DelvienHey guys, i have Noatun on my computer, but how do i make a link in my Kmenu ??08:50
azertyuuuwith dpkg -i08:50
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Delviennm08:50
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naliothazertyuuu: open adept and remove it with that08:50
azertyuuunalioth: thanx !08:51
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DelvienAnyone know how to change the color of your fonts on the desktop items?08:53
unsurrealtry kcontrol08:54
Delvienunsurreal dont see it anywhere in kcontrol08:57
Delvienbut ive done it before08:57
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sampangah -- now when i try to reset my system time/date i'm getting "conversation with su failed"09:05
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lexhiderdelvien: kcontrol->appearance->background->advanced-options, I remember having to ask at in IRC one time to find it. hopefully this is something that gets fixed for kde4.09:07
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nalioththere are lots of things to be fixed (hopefully) in kde409:07
Delvienlexhider that worked ! thank you, now do you know how to turn Konsoles background white and the text black , like regular terminal09:08
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Delvienlexhinder nm got it :) hehe09:10
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sampani don't understand how an OS's clock setting can be broken09:11
Delvienlexhinder one more question, any way to get konquerer to not open a window so big?09:11
sampani switched it (right-click, change time) and now i can't make another change09:11
sampaneverytime, whether right-click or kcontrol or system-settings (admin mode), it gives me "conversation with su failed"09:12
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soccerfiendsampan: what about running ntpdate from the command line09:13
sampan30 Oct 00:13:30 ntpdate[15820] : no servers can be used, exiting09:14
sampani can't do ANYTHING in kcontrol that requires administrator mode09:14
soccerfiendsudo ntpdate timelord.uregina.ca09:14
sampanthat seems like a BASIC problem -- far more serious than just getting the time right09:14
soccerfiendwhat version?09:14
sampanbreezy09:14
soccerfiendof KDE09:14
sampanubuntu with kubuntu-desktop on top09:15
naliothsampan: aka "kubuntu"09:15
sampanyeah, but i have all the gnome stuff too09:15
soccerfiendok, open konqueror, -> help -> about KDE09:15
Delviennalioth you use KDE right?09:15
naliothDelvien: yes09:15
sampansoccerfiend  it's 3.4.309:16
sampannot the buggy 3.4 09:16
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soccerfiendalthough 3.4 is working good for me09:16
Delviennalioth maybe you know this. How do i make it so Konquerer opens up smaller, instead of taking up the whole screen, is there a way to do this without making EVERY other window in ubuntu open the same size09:16
soccerfienderm 3.5, my bad09:16
sampani dunno -- i really liked hoary, but seriously, not being able to use the administrator mode is like seriously broken, not just a minor "bug"09:17
soccerfiendcan you run kcontrol from the command line09:17
naliothDelvien: go to 'setting' save view profile, make sure to tick the "save window size" box09:18
sampansure, i can "run" it, but anything inside that needs admin privs crashes out with 'conversation with su failed'09:18
soccerfiendcan you run kcontrol with kdesu in front?09:18
soccerfiendsuch as kdesu kcontrol09:18
sampanno09:18
sampansame error09:19
soccerfiendis this an upgrade from hoary?09:19
sampannope, fresh breezy install -- when it first came out (day of release actually), but first time running into this problem09:19
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soccerfiendok try running the following09:19
Delviennalioth that worked, thakns09:20
soccerfiendapt-get update && apt-get -s dist-upgrade09:20
kairu0hey all09:20
kairu0looking for a good kde torrent client09:20
naliothDelvien: np, you will be answering my questions soon enough09:20
naliothkairu0: use bittornado-gui09:20
soccerfiendthis won't actually change anything, but should give a list of pending upgrades or installs09:20
Delviennalioth hehe nah , i have a horrible memory09:20
kairu0nalioth, is it better than ktorrent?09:20
Delviennalioth unless you got a question on Home improvment :P09:21
sampanlol soccerfiend i got permission denied -- even with sudo on it09:21
naliothkairu0: ktorrent is quite buggy atm <shudder> quite buggy09:21
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soccerfiendsampan: sudo apt-get update09:21
kairu0nalioth, can i get bittorando-gui from universe or muiltiverse?09:21
nalioth!info bittornado-gui09:21
ubotubittornado-gui: (bittorrent client with enhanced GUI interface), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.11-4ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 38 kB, Installed size: 232 kB09:21
soccerfiend!info backuppc09:22
ubotubackuppc: (high-performance, enterprise-grade system for backing up PCs), section utils, is optional. Version: 2.1.1-2ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 399 kB, Installed size: 1772 kB09:22
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sampansoccerfiend  it gave me 12 packages to upgrade -- but they didn't even seem to download -- just instantly done09:22
sampanand i still get that error09:22
kairu0nalioth, thnx, downloading :D09:22
sampanon the clock09:22
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soccerfiendsampan:Forget about the clock, sounds like something else is broken on this machine09:24
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soccerfiendsampan: do you get that error just running apt-get update by itself09:24
sampansoccerfiend, yeah -- sounds like something very serious -- and it's not just me: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8681#c5909:24
soccerfiendthis looks like a fix09:25
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sampannot sure until i try it -- funny though that it was a KNOWN problem (not even gonna call it a bug when it's something so important to the OS) as far back as april09:26
sampanbut still it's released as a final candidate09:26
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soccerfiendsampan: I downloaded the kubuntu CD for my laptop back when breezy was beta.  I have been working fine09:27
sampanobviously it doesn't affect everyone -- but nonetheless it affects some people and it was known 6 months before release09:28
sampanjust because it works right for some doesn't mean it was ready for general release09:28
soccerfiendnot my call, I was surprized at the gpg and kmail issue09:28
soccerfiendwell, no software is usually ready for general release09:28
kairu0nalioth, you wouldnt know how to refresh the kde menu would you?09:29
soccerfiendits nice not to have to wait for a service pack, most issues can be worked around, though I know how frustrating this must feel09:29
sampani'm not blaming anyone in particular -- just frustrating to move from a smoothly functioning system to one with (fairly serious fundamental) control issues09:29
naliothkairu0: i would not09:30
sampansoccerfiend  so i'll install that .deb and reboot -- hopefully it'll be fixed :X09:31
sampaninstall went fine -- brb09:31
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kairu0nalioth, thnkx and nice grammar hehe09:32
soccerfiendsampan: does sudo kcontrol work?09:32
soccerfiendI guess he won't see that if he left09:33
kairu0soccerfiend, dont do that! it will destroy your manlyhood!09:33
kairu0it killed one of my users09:33
soccerfiendat 30, I am no longer worried about my "manlyhood"09:34
soccerfiendit is too late if I am in trouble :)09:34
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kairu0hahaha09:36
kairu0but seriously sudo kcontrol is not a good idea09:36
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soccerfiendI rarely use kcontrol, but out of curiosity, why is it bad?09:38
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DelvienThis is wierd, Kmail wont accept my pop3 server09:39
kairu0soccerfiend, i dont exactly know, but it uses $guiapp which fucks with the permissions in your users folders09:39
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Delvienis there something special i should be doing09:39
kairu0it might be safe to do a kdesu kcontrol09:39
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spiralhi09:40
azertyuuuhey all, i'm trying to install superkaramba but it can't find a C compiler , which applications do i need more09:40
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kairu0azertyuuu, probably gcc09:41
sampansoccerfiend thanks for the encouragement -- i think that .deb package fixed it -- changed the clock and have been able to enter admin mode (and the page is bookmarked so i can refer others to it too)09:41
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soccerfiendthat is generally what I do, but sometimes kdesu fails09:42
soccerfiendthough I do tend to run the KDE betas so I expect things to break09:42
soccerfiendtoo many years of debian sid have made me very tolerant of twitchy software... nevermind the years of MS before09:42
azertyuuuthis worked apt-get build-essential09:43
azertyuuuthis worked apt-get install build-essential09:43
unsurreal(k)ubuntu packages so much newer and fresher :)09:44
kairu0too many years of debian made me distrust people09:47
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soccerfiendoops, silly wireless connection grabbed an ip at the same time as my lan09:58
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soccerfiendsampan: how have you made out with the new binaries?09:59
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azertyuuuhi all, i just compiled superkaramba, but how can i start it ? i don't see anything of it in the startmenu10:12
Delvienwhats the install for Alien?  the command that is10:20
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azertyuuuhow can i open a .sh-file10:24
naliothDelvien: you shouldn't use rpms10:28
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Delviennalioth i got it to work alt way :)10:35
naliothDelvien: good for you, rpms shouldnt be a habit10:36
Delviennalioth im trying to avoid anything hard right now, since im tired and its 436 am10:36
naliothDelvien: then go to bed. it's 337am here10:37
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Delviennalioth do you know how i make a link to a .sh file that i can change the icon to?10:41
naliothDelvien: certainly. where do you want the icon?10:42
Delviennalioth ill move the icon to a more accessible folder really quick , i want the icon in the lauch bar ( the main bar) i have a "Non KDE application" shortcut right now but i cant change the icon10:43
naliothwhy not?10:44
nalioththat's strange10:44
Delviennalioth i click the new png and it goes back to regular icon , i know its kinda freaky10:44
raphinkright-click the bar, choose `add Application to Panel -> Add non KDE Application'10:44
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Delvienis there a way i can make a link to the .sh without non KDE app10:44
raphinkthen right-click the icon and choose `Configure'10:44
Delvienraphink i already have that part hehe10:45
raphinkand choose the icon10:45
raphinkor you can actually choose the icon10:45
raphinkwhile adding the app10:45
Delvienraphink i did all that , doesnt work for me 10:45
Delvienhmm now it works.. wth lol10:46
Delvieni think it was in too many subfolders, 10:46
Delvienit was 8 steps down10:46
_xuniLi need help with my Kmenu when i makeing changes in it, and save it doesent happens any thing10:46
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Delviennalioth is there a way to hide one folder on your desktop?10:54
naliothDelvien: sure. name it .Folder10:54
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Delviennalioth i cant rename it , a program uses it , but i dont want to see it, the damn prog doesnt want it anywhere else, which is retarded10:55
naliothDelvien: then you are stuck10:55
Delviennalioth great, :) thanks bro10:55
raphinkwhat program uses it Delvien ?10:56
Delvienraphink limewire, tinkering with it now10:57
raphinkyou can set limewire10:57
raphinkin the preferences10:57
raphinkit should put anything on  your desktop10:58
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raphinklol10:58
Delvienraphink sorry i had to restart X , did you say something?10:59
raphinknope10:59
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tklauserHi11:21
raphinkhi tklauser 11:21
tklauserCan I somehow get rid of the gnomeish "Save File" dialog in Breezy?11:21
raphinktklauser: you're in #kubuntu here11:22
tklauserraphink: I know11:22
raphinkwhere do you have a gnomeish dialog?11:22
tklauserraphink: Arghl, sorry, it's early here.11:22
tklauserraphink: In firefox11:22
raphinkoh well11:22
raphinkfirefox is based on gtk11:23
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raphinkso its' gnomeish that's it11:23
raphinkif you don't like the gnomeish style11:23
raphinkdon't use firefox11:23
raphinkor contribute to the effor to port it to qt11:23
azertyuuuhey all, i installed crossover office , but what's the location to run this app11:23
raphinkeffort11:23
nalioththought firefox was based on some godawful widget set11:23
tklauserraphink: But the dialog looked different in previous versions of firefox.11:23
raphinkit always looked gnomeish here11:24
tklauserIt looked like firefox/mozilla, not particularly like gnome.11:24
propagandhiazertyuuu: it should appear in the menu, perhaps if it isnt now it might if you restart kde, but alternately you can run /home/username/bin/cxoffice/cxsetup11:24
azertyuuupropagandhi: thanx11:24
raphinkconstant is : firefox is not qt11:25
tklauserraphink: Sure.11:25
raphinkthat's why it looks ugly11:25
raphink;)11:25
tklauserraphink: Biut I want the default Firefox "Save File" Dialog and that must be possible.11:25
naliothtklauser: you know you can have konqueror use the gecko engine, right?11:25
raphinkkonqui powa :)11:25
tklauserraphink: It doesn't look ugly, it just looks unfamiliar. ;-)11:25
raphinkto me it looks ugly ;)11:26
tklauserOK, I guess I'll have to live with it or switch to konqi. ;-) Thanks anyways.11:28
raphink;)11:29
raphinkkonqui rocks11:29
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propagandhihow does one configure konqueror with the gecko engine?11:43
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azertyuuuhey all , how can i play .wmv-files (with kafeinne)11:43
Stefanoi guess this is not possible11:43
Stefanoi mean the gecko stuff11:43
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raphinkazertyuuu: install the codecs11:44
raphink!codecs11:44
ubotufrom memory, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:44
naliothubotu: tell azertyuuu about w32codecs11:44
naliothsadistic_kitten: sure you can11:44
sadistic_kittenit says it can't find it...11:44
naliothsadistic_kitten: libtag1-dev11:44
sadistic_kittennalioth: ok then...11:45
propagandhiraphink: tell me how to configure konqueror with the gecko engine11:45
raphinkhuh?11:45
azertyuuuthanx all11:46
propagandhinalioth: tell me how to configure konqueror with the gecko engine11:46
propagandhisorry raphink11:46
azertyuuuubotu w32codec11:46
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).  For 64-bit read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439911:46
raphinkpropagandhi: nalioth and I are not bots11:46
raphink:p11:46
propagandhiraphink: i realise that11:46
raphinkkonqueror uses the gecko engine11:46
raphinkI don't get what you want to configure11:47
propagandhiI was referring to nalioth's previous statement that you can configure konqueror with the gecko engine11:47
azertyuuuubotu present11:48
ubotuazertyuuu: Did you get hit by a windmill?11:48
Stefanowhat am i supposed to install to see a wmv-file?11:48
naliothubotu: tell Stefano about w32codecs11:49
azertyuuuubotu who are you ? a pcnerd ?11:49
ubotuazertyuuu: what are you talking about?11:49
azertyuuuubotu: man i'm talking to you11:49
nalioth!ubotu11:49
ubotuazertyuuu: Wish i knew11:49
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:49
raphink!add11:50
ubotuadd is, like, To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets11:50
azertyuuuubotu: please stop it11:50
ubotuazertyuuu: Wish i knew11:50
raphinkazertyuuu: be nice with ubotu ;)11:50
naliothraphink: konqueror can be configured to use either khtml or gecko for rendering11:50
raphinkhmm ok11:51
raphinkhow do you set it?11:51
azertyuuuubotu: asl ?11:52
ubotuazertyuuu: What?11:52
thoreauputic!botabuse11:52
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.11:52
raphinkubotu: tell azertyuuu about the answer of life11:53
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naliothbah! shows how i keep up. gecko in konqueror seems currently broken. forgive me for stirring up folks11:57
raphinkwho needs gecko anyway?11:57
raphink;)11:57
thoreauputic!life11:57
ubotuThe answer to the question about life, the universe and everything is ... 4211:57
naliothi use galeon with konqueror as backup for sites not gecko friendly11:58
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sadistic_kittennalioth: lol11:59
naliothsadistic_kitten: how you gettin on?12:00
naliothwelp, time for a nap12:04
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sadistic_kittenwb Stefano 12:07
Stefano?12:07
Stefanoi dont know what happend12:08
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sadistic_kittenoh well12:08
Stefanofreaky machine :)12:08
sadistic_kitten:P12:10
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tiburon#kubuntu.de12:49
kairu0hey all12:50
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tiburonhallo, bin nicht gut im Englischen. suche deutsches kubuntu irc. kann mir jemand helfen?12:53
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kairu0:)12:55
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mth`MAWHi GUys.01:19
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mth`MAWHi I am using breezy with kde 3.5 beta 2 BUT the old artsd. 01:21
mth`MAWBUT my systemsounds are not playing oggs at all.01:21
mth`MAWSomeone an Idea?!01:21
petroshello01:22
mth`MAWhi01:22
petrosis there a way to change the default ubuntu bootsplash screen?01:22
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mth`MAWno idea.. I like it :)01:23
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petroskk01:23
Massacrationhow can i play two sounds ate the same time in kubuntu?01:24
Massacrationplease help me01:24
mth`MAWusing jackd01:24
sadistic_kittenpetros: yes01:24
sadistic_kittenpetros: not sure how tho01:25
sadistic_kittenpetros: but it can be done01:25
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MassacrationCan anyone help me?01:38
endo602what does it mean that my konqbrowser.desktop is malformatted01:38
kairu0please ask a specific question01:38
endo602?01:38
endo602i did01:39
kairu0endo602, your shortcut to konqueror (/usr/share/applications/kde/konqbrowser.desktop) has a problem01:39
endo602yeah01:39
endo602but why01:39
kairu0i dunno01:39
endo602all i did was try to mount a samba drive01:39
kairu0thats odd01:40
endo602yeah01:40
endo602now it says KDEInit could not launch "konsole"01:40
kairu0did you run an old kde app?01:41
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endo602nope01:44
kairu0thats odd01:45
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kairu0i dont know01:45
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larsiviRiddell:I'm not able to change the time settings. The dialog don't come up at all if rightclicking the clock, in system settings, it won't enter adm mode (using 3.5 beta 2)01:52
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MassacrationHow Can I play two  or more sounds in different programs at the same time?01:54
Riddelllarsivi: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868101:54
Riddelllarsivi: fix pending people testing it, but I don't have 3.5 packages to test01:54
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Massacrationi using kubuntu01:56
Massacrationand I cant play 2 sounds at the same time...01:57
Massacrationhi people01:59
endo602i tried to mount a samba drive and now none of my kde applications work02:01
endo602can someone help me02:01
endo602?02:01
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endo602i believe the problem to be that i mounted the shared drive to /home/username02:04
endo602and not to /home/username/mnt02:04
endo602is there anyways i can change the mount location?02:04
endo602i cant access the konsole02:04
endo602should i restart from the terminal?02:04
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endo602i dont want to restart the machine02:06
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endo602:(02:09
larsiviRiddell: Hm, thanks. Just wanted to change to wintertime...02:10
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thoreauputicendo602: can you access a tty?  ctrl-alt-F2 for instance02:10
endo602yes02:10
endo602thanks i got the terminal02:10
thoreauputicendo602: so umount the mount from there02:10
endo602yeah02:10
endo602will do 02:10
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endo602is there a way to change my mount path?02:10
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ganymedhallo.02:11
endo602now is there a way to get back to the dtop?02:11
ganymedhow can i disable the time synchronization at start up?02:11
thoreauputicyou can mount on any dir you like - but as you saw, mounting on your home dir just jams access to all the config in that place ( dot files etc)02:12
endo602can i do an smbumount?02:12
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thoreauputicI don't use samba, but that sounds reasonable02:13
endo602cool02:14
endo602is there a way now to get back to my dtop?02:14
thoreauputicalt-F7 ?02:14
thoreauputicX normally runs on tty702:15
endo602ok02:15
endo602i got an error02:15
endo602smbumount must be installed suid root02:15
endo602then i tried sudo smbumount02:16
endo602then it said 02:16
endo602couldnt umount /home/user: device or resource busy02:16
thoreauputiccd out of your home dir02:16
thoreauputiclike  cd /02:16
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thoreauputicthen try again02:17
thoreauputicunless of course you have konq or something else acessing your home dir...02:17
ganymedor can anybody tell me, how the script for the time sync is called?02:17
thoreauputicin which case you need to kill it02:17
thoreauputicganymed: ntpdate02:17
endo602gave me same error02:18
endo602how can i kill all02:18
endo602how do i see the processes02:18
ganymedthx02:18
thoreauputicendo602: do you have anything important running in X ?02:18
endo602nope02:18
endo602not at the moment02:18
thoreauputicthen do  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop02:18
endo602ok02:19
thoreauputicthen run  lsof | grep  /home/youruser  to see what's keeping it busy if anything02:19
endo602now i got a blank screen02:19
thoreauputiclogin 02:19
thoreauputicyou should be in tty 102:20
ganymedmaybe i miss something, but i have installed some gtk apps and they don't show up in the k-menu... can i change this?02:20
endo602nice02:20
thoreauputicOk now try sudo smbumount or whatever02:20
endo602i did that grep 02:20
thoreauputicbut make sure you cd to / or somewhere02:20
endo602there are process02:20
endo602bash02:21
endo602and lsof02:21
endo602that its02:21
endo602oh and grep02:21
endo602device or resrouce busy02:21
thoreauputicdid you do  lsof | grep /home/youruser   ?02:21
thoreauputicthe whole thing with the pipe02:21
endo602yes02:22
endo602there are 6 lines02:22
thoreauputic:|02:22
endo602bash02:22
endo602bash02:22
endo602bash02:22
endo602lsof02:22
endo602grep02:22
thoreauputicwell that tells you what is using your home dir02:22
endo602lsof02:22
endo602can i kill those?02:22
thoreauputicyou should see process numbers02:22
endo602yeah02:23
libbencant understsand why speedcrunch wont take , as a correct value. and wants . instead.02:23
endo602i do kill -9 #02:23
thoreauputickilling bash isn't advised ;)02:23
endo602?02:23
libbenits on teh numpad. and should be used as it.02:23
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thoreauputicyou don't do kill -9 unless kill fails :)02:23
endo602says no such process02:24
thoreauputicendo602: I can't stay much longer: you basically need to is=dentify what is keeping h emount point busyand kill that02:26
thoreauputic*identify02:26
endo602i tried02:26
endo602nothings is working02:26
endo602thanks for your help02:26
thoreauputicendo602: hmm - any reason you don't want to reboot? Might be the easiest way in this case02:27
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endo602ill reboot02:27
endo602if it wont fuck up more02:27
thoreauputicI can't really help much on IRC02:27
thoreauputicjust do   sudo shutdown -h now - that should unmount everything02:28
endo602shouldi reboot?02:28
thoreauputicor sudo shutdown -r02:28
endo602still busy02:28
thoreauputic*shrug* - it would be easier to reboot02:28
endo602ill reboot02:29
endo602should i go into recoverey mode?>02:29
endo602 in GRUB02:29
endo602then umount02:29
thoreauputicprobably not 02:29
thoreauputicchances are it will just come up unmounted02:29
thoreauputicassuming you don't have an automount set in /etc/fstab02:30
endo602i do02:30
endo602that was part of the process02:30
thoreauputicthen you need to edit fstab02:30
endo602but i can take that part out now02:30
thoreauputicyes02:30
thoreauputiccomment it out, edit it later02:30
endo602how do i comment out?02:31
thoreauputicput a # mark 02:31
thoreauputicat the start of the fstab line02:31
endo602got that02:31
endo602now  i reboot?/02:31
thoreauputicyes - hope for th ebest - should work OK02:31
endo602thanks02:32
thoreauputicif you changed fstab02:32
thoreauputicyou could try  sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop02:32
ganymedciao02:32
endo602alrady rebooted02:33
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thoreauputicendo602: OK - KDE come up alright?02:33
endo602waiting02:34
endo602loading 02:34
endo602loading alright02:35
endo602ok is up02:35
endo602what should i do now02:35
endo602?02:35
endo602kde works great02:36
thoreauputicendo602: heh - you're on your own with samba - I use NFS only02:36
endo602ok02:36
endo602well ill try again02:36
thoreauputicendo602: at least you now know *not* to mount stuff on an important dir in use ;)02:36
endo602i learned that02:36
thoreauputicendo602: when you mount on $HOME all your dot files etc become inaccessible02:37
thoreauputicso no apps can find their configs for that user02:37
endo602yeah02:37
endo602i got that02:37
thoreauputic:)02:37
endo602well i am having a hard time mounting this to another folder :P02:38
thoreauputicendo602: I suggest using automount in fstab is  not a good idea until you get everything working properly02:38
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thoreauputiceven then... I never use it except for other partitions on my drive02:39
endo602everything orks02:39
thoreauputicOK - that's good :))02:39
_manveruquick question, how do i really kill all processes that start with 'nexuiz' ?02:39
thoreauputic_manveru: possibly  " pkill nexhuiz* "02:40
endo602nice02:40
endo602im golden02:40
thoreauputicwith hthe wildcard..02:40
_manveruthoreauputic: thx, but they don't disappear...02:40
thoreauputic_manveru: hmm - well try  ps | grep nexhuiz* and kill the results02:41
thoreauputicerm ps aux | grep nexhuiz02:42
thoreauputicor whatever02:42
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indrohi02:43
_manveruthat's odd02:43
_manverui can't find the processes with ps aux, but they are in top and ksysguard02:43
indroIs atmel chipset supported?02:44
indroi have siemens gigaset usb adapter 1102:44
thoreauputicmanveru: you can kill from top with "k"02:44
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_manveruthoreauputic: i tried that already... nothing happens when i do that02:45
indro?02:45
thoreauputic_manveru: did youtry running   sudo top  ?02:45
_manveruindro: you better ask some hardware-database - what is this usb-adapter for?02:45
thoreauputicthen your kill is done as root02:45
indro_manveru: its a wlan adapter02:46
_manveruwoops02:46
_manveruwrong server i was on02:46
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_manveruno, doesn't work...02:47
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_manveruboth normal kill [pid]  nor doing it with top as sudo02:48
thoreauputic_manveru: well, you mighthave to use  kill -KILL  , or  kill -902:48
indrokill -902:48
_manveruand how often should i do that?02:48
thoreauputic_manveru: just on the processes you need to kill :)02:49
_manverumanveru  17611  0.0  0.3  84576  1852 ?        DL   12:32   0:00 ./nexuiz-linux-x86-glx02:49
_manveruthat's one of the processes i want to kill02:49
_manverui say 'kill -9 17611'02:49
_manveruand nothing happens02:49
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thoreauputic_manveru:  DL ? is it defunct ?02:50
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_manveruwhat does DL mean?02:50
epwhats the difference between kwrite, kate and kedit?02:50
indroshould siemens gigaset wlan 11 work or not? where i can see that?02:51
thoreauputicep: kedit= basic kwrite= a bit more kate= the kitchen sink02:51
_manveruep: they use the same engine (wich is kedit), but kwrite is for word-processing and kate for programming02:51
_manverusome of the processes are D and some are DL02:51
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thoreauputic_manveru: do these processes dhow when you do   ps aux | grep Z   ? If so youhave zombies02:52
thoreauputics/dhow/show02:52
_manveruthey do02:52
thoreauputicyou can't kill zombies02:53
_manveruuh02:53
thoreauputicbbut they do no harm generally02:53
_manveruholy water?02:53
thoreauputichahah02:53
thoreauputic:D02:53
_manveruthey use about 200MB of my VM02:54
thoreauputicjst forget about killing this stuf unless it's causing problems...02:54
thoreauputicwhat happens if you run sync ?02:54
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thoreauputic(should write buffers to disk)02:54
_manverunada02:55
_manveruwell, i will open a graveyard...02:56
thoreauputic_manveru: is this affecting the running of your machine? If not, why bother about ti?02:56
thoreauputic*it02:56
_manveruwell... i like to have control about my machine02:56
thoreauputic*sigh*02:57
_manveru^^02:57
_manveruotherwise i could be running windows...02:57
thoreauputicthe only way to get rid of zombies is a reboot or killing thier parent process02:57
_manveruwish is bash?02:57
_manveru-s+c02:57
thoreauputickilling bash isn't advised *grin*02:58
thoreauputicalthough aparticular instance of bash I guess...02:58
_manveruuh02:58
_manverupstree says they are directly at init...02:58
thoreauputichmmm02:58
Kamping_Kaiserreboot time ;)02:59
_manveru^^02:59
_manveruwell, i want to get this thing running before02:59
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_manveruevery time i want to run nexuiz i end up with a black screen and a zombie03:00
thoreauputic_manveru: sounds like you have bugs then03:00
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_manverugetting rid of the black screen works with ctrl+alt+esc for xkill03:00
_manveruyeah...03:01
_manverui'm getting fed up with tuxracer... i want to kill some bots03:01
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_manveruis there a safe variant of ./ ?03:04
_manveruwich i can kill easily03:04
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_manveruwhat exactly is ./ btw?03:07
_manverualways thought it means _this directory_03:08
Kamping_Kaiser_manveru: the current directory03:08
Kamping_Kaiseryehy. that as well i gues03:08
fatbrain_How can I add something to my default PATH?03:18
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Kamping_Kaiserfatbrain_: ask thoreauputic (sorry thoreauputic for dobbing you in, but i think you know this?)03:21
thoreauputicfatbrain_: depends if you want it system wide - in that case you do it in /etc/bash.bashrc03:22
fatbrain_I want to put it in my .bashrc03:22
thoreauputicfatbrain_: well then it's easy - you just add it to the PATH line03:22
thoreauputicso fo instance add :~/bin   or whatever03:23
fatbrain_I'm trying to locate my "PATH" line.03:23
thoreauputicfatbrain_:  type   echo $PATH03:24
thoreauputicthen add that as an export in .bashrc , plus the extra bits03:24
fatbrain_yes, I see it03:24
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GeMMahi03:25
fatbrain_so, I just type "export /bleh/moo/:/newStuff"?03:25
GeMMathere03:25
GeMMahow to add repositories?03:25
GeMMain kubuntu?03:25
thoreauputicfatbrain_: actually it is normally set in ~/.bash_profile03:25
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thoreauputicfatbrain_:  less ~/.bash_profile to see03:26
fatbrain_thanks.03:26
GeMMahelp 4 me please?03:26
thoreauputic!tell GeMMa about repos03:26
thoreauputicGeMMa: read the msg the bot sent you03:27
GeMMaok 03:27
GeMMatnx03:27
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GeMMasorry03:33
GeMMabut when trying to check other repositories it says thet're not supported03:34
GeMMamay i check them?03:34
naliothGeMMa: debian binary repos are guaranteed to break your ubuntu03:34
GeMMabreak03:35
GeMMa?03:35
GeMMacan u be clearer?03:35
naliothGeMMa: ubuntu is based on debian, not fully binary compatible03:36
GeMMaok03:36
GeMMaso may i check those repos?03:36
naliothcheck what repos?03:36
GeMMawhen i do ->settings in synaptic03:37
GeMMathere is a list of  repos03:37
GeMMasome r dis-checked03:37
GeMMawhen i check them03:37
GeMMait says not supported but i can click ok03:38
GeMMato go on03:38
GeMMawhat d u say?03:38
thoreauputicGeMMa: just enable them03:39
GeMMai choose ok03:39
thoreauputicthey are fine (comunity supported)03:39
thoreauputic*community03:39
GeMMadespite not officially supported03:39
GeMMaright'03:39
GeMMa?03:39
thoreauputicGeMMa: that just means canonical don't support them03:39
naliothand add multiverse03:40
thoreauputicGeMMa: they are supported by the Universe team03:40
thoreauputicyes, add multiverse03:40
GeMMaok03:40
GeMMaupdatin03:40
GeMMatnx03:40
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GeMMait gives me error 03:41
GeMMacant find them03:41
GeMMai try to search manually the links03:42
GeMMaam i right'03:42
GeMMa?03:42
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naliothGeMMa: did ubotu send you a msg on adding repos?03:45
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GeMMaerror in links03:45
GeMMaitalian links03:45
GeMMathey r wrong03:46
GeMMayes03:46
GeMMaread03:46
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mhzhi there03:50
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mhzI am running Edubuntu (yes, it is ubuntu + apps for education). I demo it using GNOME, KDE, WindowMaker, Fluxbox and XFCE4.03:52
arkaitzhelloooooo03:52
mhzhi arkaitz 03:52
mhzmy doubt is why only some apps. run Spanish but KDE's dont.03:53
stbainmhz: did you run # sudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-es-base language-pack-kde-es03:55
mhzhmmm, let me check 'cos I did install some lang. packages, stbain 03:56
stbainif you "# sudo apt-cache search spanish", you'll find a whole mess of language related packages03:57
mhzstbain: yes, they are already there03:57
mhz:(03:57
stbainhrmm... got me. I'm guessing it's something you set in preferences.03:57
mhzhhhmmm, maybe u're right. I should start KDE and check prefs.03:58
mhzgood idea03:58
stbaingood luck03:58
mhzthx03:58
mhzI'll be back to let you know03:59
mhzbbl03:59
GeMMawhy does adept seem better than synaptec?03:59
GeMMain the first i found ktorrent04:00
GeMMabut not in secon one!04:00
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GeMMawhich one do u use ?04:01
GeMMa!tell GeMMa about repos04:02
GeMMa!tell GeMMa about torrent04:02
GeMMa!tell GeMMa about ktorrent04:03
GeMMa!tell GeMMa about navigator04:03
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GeMMado u use firefox or konqueror?04:04
GeMMahey 04:05
GeMMaheloooooooooooooooooooooo04:05
GeMMa:04:05
GeMMa!tell GeMMa about amule04:06
GeMMa!tell GeMMa about *mule04:06
GeMMa!tell GeMMa about torrent04:09
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GeMMa!tell GeMMa about ktorrent04:09
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noirequusGeMMa: your nickname needs to be registered with nickserv04:12
GeMMawhy?04:12
noirequusbecause registered nicknames have access to more services04:12
GeMMathat is?04:12
noirequusGeMMa: type /msg nickserv help register04:12
GeMMamake sm examples04:12
GeMMatype /msg nickserv help register04:12
noirequusubotu: tell GeMMa about msg the bot04:12
noirequustalking with ubotu in a private message is a good reason04:13
GeMMaregister04:13
noirequustype /msg nickserv register <YOUR PASSWORD HERE>04:14
GeMMadone?04:14
GeMMa!04:14
ubotuGeMMa: Wish i knew04:14
GeMMaok 04:14
GeMMatnx04:14
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GeMManow what can i do?04:14
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:14
GeMMalol to u!04:14
_xuniLi cant unrar things...04:14
libbenunrar x -y filname.rar04:15
libbenbut first sudo apt-get install unrar04:15
GeMMa!tell GeMMa about torrent04:15
libbenand u must have universe and multi in sources04:15
_xuniLk libben i install the unrar-free04:16
_xuniLbut i cant use ark to unrar it?04:16
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_xuniLlibben?04:17
_xuniLany one else know?04:19
_xuniLlibben vere did you go!04:21
libben?04:22
libbenyeah04:22
libbenunrar-free04:22
libbenthat one is good =)04:22
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_xuniLwell i installed it and it dont wokr..04:23
_xuniLnot in console and noth with ark04:23
libben?04:24
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_xuniLwell i cant pack up my rar file04:24
libbendoes unrar pops up when u hit tab? after typing unra04:24
[GABRI] [_maqbool] 04:24
_xuniLthe unrar command i console dont work04:25
_xuniLbash:unrar:command not found04:25
libbenthen its not in path04:25
libbenwell it is.04:26
_xuniLbut unrar-free works04:26
libbenk04:26
_xuniLbut it fails...04:26
libbenunrar-nonfree i have installed04:27
libbenthats the one04:27
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aitorhi04:27
_xuniLk..04:27
aitorhas anyone achieved to make digikam work after upgrading hoary to breezy?04:28
_xuniLis it in universe?04:28
thoreauputic_xuniL: multiverse04:28
aitorI had it working under hoary, but now it works nomore04:28
aitor:(04:28
aitorit connects to my cam, but is unable to download a single photo, even as root04:28
aitorgtkam does not work neither04:29
aitorand konqueror detects my camera, but is unable to get in it04:29
aitorany clue?04:30
_xuniLaitor installed driveR?04:30
aitorin hoary I had no driver installed, i think04:30
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_xuniLlibben cant find unrar-nonfree....04:31
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thoreauputic!info unrar-nonfree04:32
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB04:32
thoreauputic_xuniL: as I told you, it's in multiverse04:32
_xuniLhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/41097204:32
_xuniLmu sources.list04:32
aitorthing is digikam detects the camera, it connects to it, and show a listing of the photos in the camera, but can not show any photograph or download them04:32
_xuniLshouldent it work..04:33
aitoreven if I do gksudo digikam and access it as root04:33
thoreauputic_xuniL: comment out backports and add multiverse   to each unverse line04:33
aitorso I think it's not a permission issue04:33
thoreauputic_xuniL: your sources list is wrong04:34
aitorupgrading from hoary to breezy has only brought me problems I'm afraid04:34
_xuniLmake changes in the http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/410972 how it sohuld be04:34
_xuniLhow you done it?04:36
aitorapt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade (after changing repositories to breezy)04:36
aitorsince then the media:/ link in konqueror shows no devices04:37
aitorusb devices no longer automount04:37
thoreauputic_xuniL: please read what I told you above04:37
thoreauputic_xuniL: comment out backports and add multiverse   to each unverse line04:37
aitorI had to fight over my ati graphic card again to get my 3d back04:37
aitorand so :(04:37
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aitorbut now I think it would be worse to downgrade than to fix the problems04:39
_xuniLlike this? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/41098404:40
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aitorthing is, hoary didn't detect my camera's model, so I used USB generic04:40
aitorbut breezy detects my kodak dx7590 exactly04:40
aitorI'm puzzled with it not working 04:40
_xuniLthoreauputic is this righT? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/410984?04:41
thoreauputiclooking04:41
_xuniLk04:41
thoreauputic_xuniL: looks OK - now run sudo apt-get update04:42
thoreauputicyou shouldn't have any errors04:42
_xuniLk04:42
_xuniLthx04:43
[GABRI] [maqbool_] 04:43
_xuniLhope it works now04:43
thoreauputicnow you should be able to find unrar-nonfree04:43
_xuniLworks perfekt :D04:44
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thoreauputic_xuniL: :D04:47
[GABRI] [_maqbool] 04:47
thoreauputic[GABRI] : umm - do you have anything on-topic to say ?04:48
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mhzstbain: yes, indeed04:49
mhzi needed to start KDE and set regional settings04:49
mhz:)04:49
mhzstbain: thanks04:49
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zerotimehi, how can I install ati fglrx drivers succesfully in a kubuntu breezy 5.10 64bit? I have tried many stuff, without success04:52
aitorbeing an ati card....try making some kind of human sacrifice and praising to some hell lord04:54
aitorlol04:54
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:54
zerotimecan someone point me to a working tutorial on installing fglrx in kubuntu breezy 5.10 64bit?04:55
zerotimeI had my debian, gentoo and other distros np, this is giving me a lot of issues04:55
zerotimeneed some advice04:55
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Kamping_Kaiseraitor: konw any more then human sacrifice?04:56
Kamping_Kaiserhm. try ubotu04:56
Kamping_Kaiser!tell me about fglrx04:56
zerotime!tell me about fglrx04:56
aitorzero, have you tried installing xorg-driver-fglrx package?04:57
smi|ezerotime whats the problem04:57
zerotimeit is installed supossedly04:57
smi|eubotu tell zerotime about fglrx04:57
aitorafter installing it04:57
aitordo04:57
aitorsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:57
aitorand choose flgrx as driver04:57
aitorwith my ati 9500 worked04:58
smi|ecan i run a printer on ubuntu04:58
aitorsmi|e, that's what cups is for04:58
smi|eaitor whats cups04:58
aitorcommon unix printing system04:58
thoreauputicsmi|e: assuming it's supported - most are04:58
aitorgo to the control panel04:58
smi|eits a xerox04:58
aitorand in peripherals, go to printers04:58
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jpetsoI got a problem with the media:/ kioslave04:59
jpetsoIt shows only removable media, but not my internal harddisk partitions04:59
aitorsame problem here04:59
aitorno idea how to solve it04:59
aitorwith hoary it worked flawlessly05:00
jpetso...where I could add that:05:00
jpetso1. it works on other installations that I've done the last few days05:00
jpetsoand 2. I entered /media/mountpoint also for the internal hds at installation time05:00
jpetsoI changed them to /mnt afterwards, but no use05:00
zerotimethe problem is that I cant find fglrx-driver05:01
zerotimeif I do a search 05:01
zerotimeapt-cache search fglrx05:01
zerotimeI only get the following05:02
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zerotimexserver-xorg-driver-ati - X.Org X server -- ATI driver05:02
zerotimelinux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic - Non-free Linux 2.6.12 modules on x86_64 generic05:02
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zerotimeI got installed the restricted modules, but I cant find xorg-driver-fglrx05:03
aitormhmm05:03
aitorhave you enabled universe repositories?05:03
zerotimeyes05:03
aitoras far as I know, fglrx are propietary drivers, so they should be in universe/multiverse05:03
aitorpuzzling05:04
aitorapt-cache search fglrx finds nothing?05:04
zerotimethe 2 results 05:04
zerotime xserver-xorg-driver-ati05:04
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zerotimelinux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic05:05
aitorgrab my sources.list05:06
aitorwith apt-cache search fglrx i find more, including xorg-driver-fglrx05:06
zerotimeplease, cut and paste, must fix dcc problem here05:06
aitorok05:06
aitorI'll query you then05:06
zerotimeperfect05:06
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zerotimeaitor, 05:08
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aitoroh the fuck...05:09
aitoras my nick's not registered, it doesn't allow me to send queries05:09
aitorgive me a mail and I'll send it05:09
zerotimezzzerotime@hotmail.com05:09
zerotimethx very much05:09
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aitorsent05:11
aitorhope it works05:11
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aitorATI's support fot linux is really poor05:11
zerotimeI know05:12
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aitornext card I buy will surely be an nVidia05:12
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pipeDonde puedo encontrar IRC de Kubuntu en Espaol?05:12
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jpatrickpipe: #kubuntu-es05:13
aitorpipe, has probado en el irc-hispano?05:13
pipeGracias05:13
jpatrickaitor: irc-hispano is weird05:13
aitoryeah, I know05:13
aitorbut is, you know, hispano05:14
aitorlol05:14
Kamping_Kaiserlol05:14
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aitorthink it would be the best place to find a spanish channel05:14
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jpatrickaitor: I've heard the people there are..... odd05:14
aitoryeah05:14
aitorthey think they're cool hackers and all thos shit05:15
zerotimezerotime@kubuntubox:~$ apt-cache search fglrx05:15
zerotimexserver-xorg-driver-ati - X.Org X server -- ATI driver05:15
zerotimelinux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic - Non-free Linux 2.6.12 modules on x86_64 generic05:15
aitorzerotime, have you done apt-get update?05:15
zerotimeyeah05:15
zerotimetwice05:15
zerotime2 veces05:16
zerotime:)05:16
aitorIt's really strange :S05:16
zerotimetell me about it05:16
aitorI won't paste here my apt-cache search fglrx output, too big and will flood05:16
aitorbut05:16
aitorxorg-driver-fglrx - Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators05:16
aitorxorg-driver-fglrx-dev - Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators (devel files)05:16
aitorfglrx-kernel-source - ATI binary kernel module source05:16
aitorthis is a part of it05:16
aitorwith the sources.list I've sent you05:17
aitoryou're under breezy?05:17
zerotimeyes05:19
zerotimebreezy05:19
zerotime64 bit05:20
aitorcomputers, such a rational science lol05:20
aitorI just can't understand why it can't find results for you 05:20
zerotimeI think it is because of the 64 bit05:20
aitormaybe....05:20
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aitorI'm running 32 bits05:20
zerotimethere must be no 64 bit package05:20
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aitora poor old athlong xp 2400 +05:21
aitorathlon05:21
Kamping_Kaiserpoor old?05:21
aitorlol05:21
zerotimenot bad, I used to have that05:21
aitortwo years old05:21
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Kamping_Kaiseraitor: yeh, i have a P4 2.4 :)05:21
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aitorI want to upgrade it to a 3200 amd 6405:21
Kamping_Kaiserruns vim realy well :D05:21
aitorbut my bank account says otherwise05:22
aitorlol05:22
Kamping_Kaiserlol05:22
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aitorwith all that pcx stuff, new motherboard, new graphic card, new mproccessor05:22
aitortoo much euros lol05:22
aitorIt will last for a while05:23
Kamping_Kaiserlol. think aobut how much that is in aussie dollars ;)05:23
Kamping_Kaiseralmost 2x what you pay05:23
aitorwtf?05:23
aitorwhy so?05:23
Kamping_Kaiserperhaps +50%05:23
Kamping_Kaiserexchange rate05:23
Kamping_Kaiseror something :|05:23
aitoroh my god :S05:23
Kamping_Kaiser:S05:24
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aitorI had a dx2-66 486 :D05:24
aitorlasted for a couple of years05:24
Kamping_Kaisernot sure what mine is , i asume it's a dx05:24
aitortill I discovered overclocking05:24
aitorlol05:24
zerotimeI wonder what's the point on installing 64 bit edition of kubuntu when you get no flash, and no 3d acceleration05:25
aitorsure...still need development05:25
Kamping_Kaiserzerotime: same here :D05:25
zerotimeI am going to download 586 05:25
zerotimeI give up05:25
Kamping_Kaiserand you don't get 'no' flash, you just have to perform voodoo and mystic rituals to make it work05:25
_nemoanyone know about installing "amsn" from cvs?05:25
aitorso what's the point then in buying 64bits proccessors?05:25
zerotimeexactly05:26
Kamping_Kaiseraitor: right now? Epenis05:26
zerotimenothing05:26
aitorI imagine a 64 bits proccessor working as a 32 bits one will work even worse than its frec equivalent05:26
Kamping_Kaiserno, it doestn05:27
Kamping_Kaiserthankfully05:27
aitorreal 32 bit mode then?05:27
aitorno emulation?05:27
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Kamping_Kaiseryep. 05:27
aitorI read somethings about emulation05:28
Kamping_Kaiserlots of effort went into it05:28
aitorwell, then is a "future" investment05:28
zerotimethey support 32 bit out of the box05:28
Kamping_Kaiseramd64s can do a full 32 bit CPU natively05:28
zerotimeno emulation 05:28
aitorif there can be something as "future" in computer industry05:28
Kamping_KaiserIntel em64t has some parts that are emulated IIRC05:28
zerotimehahahaha05:28
Kamping_Kaiseraitor: yeh05:28
zerotimenice words aitor05:28
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aitorI'll think twice then before upgrading my boy05:28
zerotimehey 05:28
zerotimeis there a kubuntu breezy netinstall?05:29
zerotimeiso cd, or whatever05:29
Kamping_Kaiserzerotime: i expect so, but i havent used it05:29
aitorI think so, but can't assure it, I upgraded from hoary05:29
Kamping_Kaiserzerotime: you can probably use the Ubuntu network install cd and just install a base ssytem05:29
Kamping_Kaiserthen install Kubuntu-desktop05:29
zerotimeyeah05:29
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zerotimewell, I just wondered if it would be faster to download whole cd, or netinstall cd and have everything updated 05:30
zerotimeonce system is fully installe05:30
zerotimed05:30
Kamping_Kaiserzerotime: hm.05:30
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Kamping_Kaiserprobably about the same05:30
aitorhttp://www.kubuntu.org/download.php05:31
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zerotimeI am downloading already, with 1 mb line speed it takes an hour and a half for 650 mb05:31
Kamping_Kaiserlol. got to suck zerotime < end sarcasm>05:32
aitormore or less05:32
Kamping_Kaiser;)05:32
aitorif you get a nice server response05:32
zerotime106 KB/sec05:32
aitorwell guys, gotta go now05:33
zerotimevale aitor05:33
Kamping_Kaiserlater aitor :)05:33
zerotimec ya05:33
aitorc ya05:33
Kamping_Kaiserlater mat4e05:33
Kamping_Kaiserloool05:33
zerotimehahaha aitor beer, 05:33
aitor_beergotta go and drink some belgian beer :D05:34
aitor_beerbye!05:34
zerotimehahaha05:34
zerotimegotta drink beer05:34
zerotimehahaha05:34
Kamping_Kaiserlate mate. bastard :P05:34
Kamping_Kaiserblue shift - 1% to go :|05:34
Kamping_Kaiseri should be in bed by 3 am05:34
Kamping_Kaiser*3 30 am05:35
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lancellorhello??? anyone05:50
usrxhi05:51
lancellorhow is your day 05:51
usrxjust woke up...waiting for my coffee05:51
lancellorcool 05:52
strusberglancellor: Hi05:52
lancellori don't see many people on this channel05:52
usrxlots here05:52
usrxtheir just mostly idling05:52
usrx*they're05:52
strusbergor just reading...05:52
Kamping_Kaiseryeh. some have a good reason :)05:52
lancellori just to have ubuntu installed but oilike the looks of kfde better05:53
lancellorimean kde05:53
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icewtthen install kubuntu05:53
lancellori i'm using kubuntu now i 'm almost set up with it05:56
lancellorreally nice05:56
Kamping_Kaisernight all05:56
strusbergI'm using kubuntu too now. But some "parts" are missing: ie Mozilla, Thunderbird.05:57
_yasserkmail is there......05:57
icewtand konqueror05:58
strusbergyes.05:58
lancellorstrusberg: just download   sudo apt-get install thunderbird firefox etc,05:58
strusbergThks, No problem. I have installed.05:59
strusbergAlso,I installed xchat, however konversartion is nice.05:59
lancellorforthe kde ekperts how i make kde to show the navigation panel when i strt konqueror06:00
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sampanlancellor, do you have it showing now?06:01
sampanthe nav panel, that is06:01
lancelloryes06:01
mth`MAWHi I have one more question06:01
lancellorshoul i save my profile??06:01
sampanthen save the current settings as a profile06:01
sampanyeah06:01
lancellorthanks i just tought a bout it06:02
sampanyou can add the nav panel button to a toolbar too :)06:02
mth`MAWDoes anybody know something about feeding an shoutcast server with a viodeo from a linux client?!06:02
lancellorperfect thanks06:02
sampansure 06:03
lancellorhey you guys you know windowz is comming with office for linux???06:04
stratovariusguys I have some problems with my video card drivers (nvidia tnt2) when I enable  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and I reboot session,kdm and kde doesnt work.who can help me pls?06:04
lancellordid you change the nv to nvidia?06:05
stratovariusyes06:05
stratovariusin xorg conf06:05
lancellorwhat do you guys think about the office for linux06:05
stratovariusmay u sebd ne the command line to configure xorg so I check If i changed nv with nvidia?06:05
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stratovarius*send06:06
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lancellorcan you log in in to x06:08
stratovariusimin x06:08
stratovariusim in to x06:09
stratovariusI disabled sudo-nvidia-glk-conf06:09
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|mp|q: when using NFS on partition X, is partition X then mounted also in the normal (etc/fstab) way on host machine?06:09
lancellortry sudo kedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    and check if you have  nvidia  06:10
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jpatricklancellor: kdesu kwrite...06:11
lancelloryea06:11
lancellorse ya guys..06:14
stratovariuslancellor im not able to see If I have nvidia.may u take a look here pls?http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/383606:14
lancelloron the section device06:15
stratovariusSection "Device"06:16
stratovarius        Identifier      "NVIDIA Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64$06:16
stratovarius        Driver          "nv"06:16
stratovarius        BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"06:16
lancelloryou have      Driver          "nv"06:16
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lancelloryou should have     Driver          "nvidia"06:16
jpatrickstratovarius: tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?06:16
stratovariuslancellor I tried to change nv with nvidia in xorg but if I return in xorg drivers are always nv06:16
stratovariusjpatrick yes I did06:16
lancellortried changing wait06:17
stratovariuswhat?06:17
stratovariusI changed nv with nvidia drivers 4 x06:18
lancellorcheck here  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7507406:18
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lancellorand go all the way down to sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you see how yours supposeed to look06:19
stratovariuslancellor I use kde that guide is 4 gnome06:20
lancellorcheck this is what i did and install my nvidia drivers no problem06:21
stratovariusk tnx06:21
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lancellorhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563 06:22
lancellorthis automatix works in kubuntu i just tried just make sure you install this first    sudo apt-get install zenity gksu gnome-terminal06:23
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lancellorand select what you need in this case nvidia drivers you my find something else you may need there06:24
lancellorit worked for me i just finish settin g up my sytem 06:24
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lancellordon't select gamepad the only thing did not worked for me06:25
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stratovariuslancellor I didnt understand what automatix needs me06:26
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KnowerrorsHey all, whats this mean: "Unpacking w32codecs (from w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb) ... dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install): short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/win32/QuickTimeInternetExtras.qtx')" ?06:27
stratovariusim now downloading nvidia drivers thx to the link in the guide u gave me06:27
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kkathmanHello all :)06:28
lancellorwill install and setup the nvidia drivers for you since i just nstall kubuntu from scratch that save a lot of time is really cool on this you select what you want does not install everything06:28
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lancellorjust what you select06:28
stratovariuslancellor after I installed sudo apt-get install zenity gksu gnome-terminal what should I do?06:29
stratovarius(sorry im a newbie :D)06:30
lancellordownload the script06:30
lancellorbottom right corner06:30
stratovariusin what way can I download the script?06:30
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lancellorjust click on it06:31
lancellorand save it on the dektop06:31
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lancelloror wherever06:32
lancellorit is a tar.gz06:32
stratovariusmmm sorry I didnt understand. where can I download automatix?06:32
lancellorhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6656306:32
troyhey, does anyone know of any good but simple online point-of-sale software?06:34
stratovariustar xzf automatix-breezy_v2.15.tar.gz06:34
stratovariuscd Automatix06:34
stratovarius./install06:34
stratovariusdo I have to do this to install automatix? 06:34
lancelloryes06:34
lancelloryou have breezy??06:34
stratovariusyes06:34
lancellorjust making sure06:34
lancellorand go to kde menu -system-graphical installer06:35
lancellorshould be and icon there06:36
stratovariusk thx06:36
lancellorclick on theicon and follow the instrucions06:36
lancellorjust don't select game pad did not work for me eveything else worked just fine you my find something interesting there06:37
lancellorlet me know what happen06:37
lancelloryou are goint to reatart the computer there are things are just for gnome youll see06:39
lancelloryou should read the tred06:39
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stratovariustar: automatix-breezy_v2.15.tar.gz: Impossibile open: No such file or directory06:40
stratovariuslancellor: 06:40
stratovariusif I give tar xzf automatix-breezy_v2.15.tar.gz it says me  tar: automatix-breezy_v2.15.tar.gz: Impossibile open: No such file or directory06:41
_linushi all06:41
lancellorjust do right click extract here06:41
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stratovariuslacellor; I have no tar with than name06:42
stratovarius*that06:42
lancellorok first you have to cd to the desktop or folder where you download the file06:42
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lancellorwhen you download it  where did you put it 06:43
lancellorin home ,desktop 06:43
stratovariuslancellor sossy I find it06:43
stratovarius*sorry06:43
stratovarius*found06:43
lancellorok right click extraxt here is the easy way06:43
lancellorwhats up _linus06:44
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stratovariuslancellor: I nistalled it. do I have to go in system tools?06:45
lancellor go to kde menu -system-graphical installer06:46
lancelloryou should see and icon06:46
stratovariuslacellor I have no link in kde menu -system-graphical installer06:47
stratovarius*lancellor06:47
lancellordid you do ./install06:47
stratovariusyes06:47
lancellorgraphical installer script (automatix) should be on system06:48
stratovariusafter ./install it said me automatix has been installed in appliations-system tools06:49
lancellordid you find it??06:49
stratovariusno06:50
lancellorweird06:50
stratovariuscant we use the command line to find it?06:52
kkathmanstratovarius: cant you do a "whereis" from the command line?06:52
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stratovariuslancellor automatix: /usr/bin/automatix /usr/bin/X11/automatix /usr/local/automatix06:53
stratovariusthx kk06:53
kkathmanstratovarius: now just create a desktop link to it06:53
stratovariushow to?06:53
kkathmanright click desktop06:53
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kkathmancreate new ... link to application06:54
stratovariusthen06:54
kkathmanfill the info out on the wizard06:55
lancellorkkathman: Thanks for your help06:55
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kkathmannot a prob...glad to meet you lancellor  :)06:55
stratovariussorry guys /usr/bin/automatix /usr/bin/X11/automatix /usr/local/automatix is the full path of the automatix?06:56
kkathmanstratovarius:  the key is the last tab... just put in the name of the app in the top two fields, then browse to that path you found 06:56
kkathmanstratovarius: no...just the/usr/bin/automatix06:56
lancellorI'm just and other newbie after been succesfull with a tweak like to share 06:56
kkathmanbut you need to put it in single quotes06:56
kkathmanI'd just browse for it and then choose it06:57
kkathmanthat way it gets in there correctly06:57
lancellori'm going to shower i'm going to go to the movies to see DOOM 06:57
kkathmankewl06:57
lancellorYeah06:57
kkathmanI want to see that :)06:57
stratovariusthx lancellor06:58
stratovariusthx kk06:58
kkathmannp06:58
lancelloris sunday you know wife day06:58
lancellorill come back in like 20 minutes to ee how it went06:58
kkathmanlol07:01
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[miles] evening #kubuntu07:12
[miles] I've been using SuSE for years... and just trying out Kubuntu for my desktop07:13
[miles] I'm just trying to get to grips with it's package management system atm07:13
_manveruhey miles :)07:13
[miles] I urgently need to Luma07:13
[miles] hi _manveru 07:13
[miles] I did a search via Adept... but not there...07:14
_manveruluma, what is that?07:14
[miles] LDAP client / editor07:14
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_manveruah, have it07:14
_manveru!luma07:14
ubotu_manveru: Not a clue07:14
_manveruguess it's in multiverse07:14
icewthttp://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/utils/luma07:15
_manveruok, do a 'sudo [editorofyourchoice]  /etc/apt/sources.list'07:15
[miles] one sec..07:15
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_manveruoh, in universe07:15
[miles] ok07:15
[miles] im there07:15
_manveruok07:15
_manverunow search a line where universe is07:15
[miles] deb http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted07:16
[miles] thats my first line07:16
_manverushould be two07:16
_manveruone with src07:16
_manveruuncomment both07:16
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_manverusave the file07:16
[miles] ahh I get it!07:16
[miles] nice one07:16
_manveruand do a 'sudo apt-get update'07:16
jesusfishthere any gam_server fixes yet?07:16
[miles] _manveru: im doing all that stuff via Adept :)07:17
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_manveruoh :)07:17
[miles] ;-P07:17
_manverunever got used to that07:17
[miles] jeje07:17
_manverubut well, i'm coming from debian07:17
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[miles] well, for me, I use YaST2 via console most of the time07:17
_manveruyeah...07:18
_manverui got sick of suse after some years07:18
[miles] well, for the server stuff we churn out, we stick with SuSE07:18
hoaxerehh :/ my compiler crazy 07:18
_manveruyeap, it is fine to configure stuff07:18
[miles] sure07:19
[miles] SuSE does it for me for servers07:19
_manverubut i never understood how everything works07:19
_manverutheir x-config utility is outstanding07:19
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[miles] anyone with a little SuSE knowledge who could tell me the eqv. of doing a YOU in Kubuntu?07:20
_manverucron07:20
[miles] lol07:20
[miles] mmm no skype package...07:21
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_manveru!skype07:21
ubotuskype is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl07:21
rikvaI run Breezy Badger, I have 2 soundcards, and I can't use both of them to record. I can hear myself in the speakers when I talk into the microphone. Mic is selected as capture device. Capture is on. Any suggestions?07:21
[miles] _manveru: !skype?07:21
[miles] whats with the !07:21
_manveruit's for ubotu07:21
_manveruour channelbot in charge07:22
_manveruhe knows stuff about almost everything07:22
[miles] jeje07:22
[miles] ok07:22
apokryphos[miles] : depends; try us.07:22
apokryphos(re: the SuSE equivalent, that is)07:22
[miles] apokryphos: Well, with SuSE, for eg: I install a package (rpm) via YaST2...07:23
[miles] apokryphos: when I want to upgrade packages installed, I do a YOU (YaST2 Online Update)07:23
apokryphos[miles] : which is the biggest hassle ever! Annoying07:23
_manverubrb...07:23
apokryphos[miles] : there's an adept-updater you can use07:23
[miles] ok07:23
apokryphosone thing that really annoyed me about suse was how slow it was to get the packaging system up; even using the CLI tool (I forget what it is), would take ages07:24
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apokryphosand then all those SuSE config things had to be run after installing _every_ package -- a bit of a joke.07:24
[miles] nod07:24
[miles] true07:24
apokryphosbut I won't take away SuSE's strenghts -- it is, from my experience, certainly the most polished distro. Very sweet in that sense.07:25
apokryphosbut the repositories is a clear issue (especially after from coming from debian-based)07:25
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[miles] yes07:25
[miles] I must admit, I am a v e r y hardend SuSE user... and to swap to any other distro, it would have to be super shit hot07:26
apokryphosMy distro switchin' days are over, at least for some time now. Simply don't have the effort to learn a distro all over again (though it used to be a hobbie of mine); part of the reason I didn't stick with SuSE when I tried it out a few weeks ago07:27
[miles] Well, I've been heavily working with SuSE for near 6 years 07:28
[miles] let's see what impression Kubuntu leaves me with :)07:28
orangeyapokryphos: well, suse has always been the most needy!07:28
[miles] right, I must run to a box in wall07:28
apokryphos[miles] : it's worth giving kubuntu a good shot (really). The wiki is good for helping you start, and you can of course ask any questions in here07:28
[miles] I will!07:28
[miles] :)07:28
[miles] thanks for you help guys07:28
[miles] bbiab07:28
apokryphosyou'll get more out of it if you're well-versed with Linux (which I imagine you are)07:28
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orangeyFor me, I went from gentoo to kubuntu.. I basically wanted all the newest packages, but not the compile time.07:29
orangeyapokryphos: do you think "openSUSE" is gonna fix the pack problem for suse?07:29
apokryphosthen debian-based systems is pretty much the way to go07:29
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apokryphosNope, but it's great to have OpenSuSE07:29
orangeyapokryphos: well, debian unstable is a terrible experience.07:30
apokryphosI imagine they have a difference in the way of approach. Yast probably speaks about that07:30
orangeyapokryphos: I did that for a few years, and never again.07:30
apokryphosorangey: why years, then? ;-)07:30
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orangeyapokryphos: it was a server, not my main systme.07:30
orangeyapokryphos: plus, I came from Slackware.07:30
orangey: )07:30
apokryphosI tend to not stick with distros for more than a week when I can't stand them07:30
apokryphosok, I see07:30
_ubuntulmao07:30
orangeyapokryphos: I like giving things a chance.07:31
apokryphossure; a week is long enough :P07:31
_ubuntuis kde faster or slower than gnome? ram wise07:31
orangeyI used slack from 95ish (I think?) till 1998, then debian till 2001, then mandrake.07:31
slow-motionhallo07:31
apokryphoswhen you've tried out other distros it's more a case of "what's their equivalent of...". The joy comes in finding new things the other didn't have07:31
apokryphosthough it's painful finding a really useful tool doesn't exist :-O. Like I didn't see anything like build-dep on suse07:31
orangeymy server still uses mandrake, but my laptop went mandrake > gentoo > kubuntu07:32
apokryphosorangey: I wished through mandrake, fedora, suse, debian and then ubuntu in about a year :)07:32
orangeyI haven't used any distro less than a year.07:32
_ubuntuis kde faster or slower than gnome? ram wise07:32
apokryphostried out Gentoo a bit, since it was my brother's comp, but there realised it wasn't really for me, suffice it to say.07:32
orangeyI think it gives me good depth.07:32
orangey_ubuntu: probably the same?07:32
apokryphos_ubuntu: kde of course :P. Well, always depends on who you ask. I can't imagine an objective benchmark test07:32
orangeyapokryphos: gentoo is wonerful.07:32
orangeywonderful, even.07:32
apokryphos:-O07:33
orangeyapokryphos: if I could have gentoo without the compile times, I would.07:33
_ubuntuorangey: nope i doubt they are the same?07:33
apokryphosI hate what they do to kde packs, though the whole methodology I find troublesome07:33
frank23_ubuntu: I'm pretty sure kde uses more ram07:33
_ubuntuI heard that gnome uses more ram but kde uses more cpu07:33
_ubuntulol07:33
orangeyapokryphos: why?07:33
frank23_ubuntu: but if you have enough ram, kde is great!07:33
apokryphos_ubuntu: don't trust whatever anyone says, pretty much.07:33
_ubuntufrank23: i have 256 lmao07:33
apokryphosorangey: which part?07:33
kalenedrael256 is fine.07:33
_ubuntukalenedrael: 256 mb of ram for kde? gnome runs really sluggish on it07:34
icewti have 256MB of ram and kde works much faster than gnome for me07:34
_ubuntuo really :o07:34
_ubuntuis it usable?07:34
icewtyes07:35
_ubuntuhow many apps do you run?07:35
icewtworks just fine07:35
icewtit depends07:35
_ubuntuoh uhm07:36
frank23_ubuntu: the number of apps isn't relevant. I'm sure I can run 400 instances of xclock without problem07:36
_ubuntuof xlock maybe07:36
_ubunturofl07:36
_ubuntubut 10 firefox tabs07:36
_ubuntu?07:36
icewti mostly use konqueror07:37
_ubuntuoh god07:37
_ubuntukde is nice though.. way nicer than gnome but not as simple07:38
icewtbecause it works much faster than firefox ever did on gnome, and it's mostly enough for my needs07:38
_ubuntuim using the kubuntu live cd atm07:39
_ubuntulol07:39
_ubuntuicewt: are you shure kde is faster than gnome? its soo much prettier ^^07:39
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icewt_ubuntu: on my machine it is clearly faster07:40
_ubuntuwhat processor do you have?07:41
icewtDuron 1,2GHz07:41
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_ubuntui myself have an athlon xp 200007:41
_ubuntuhow much faster is it than gnome really?07:42
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icewter.. i don't know how to say it more precisely ;)07:43
icewtbut with gnome i was starting to think about upgrading my computer..07:43
kkathmanfrank23: 400 instances of xclock????07:44
kkathmanlol07:45
_ubuntuxclock is such a system hog!!1 omg07:45
_ubuntu:D07:45
_ubuntuwell bedtime07:45
_ubuntubye and thx icewt 07:45
kkathmanicewt: KDE does take more resource than gnome I believe...at least from a RAM point of view Im sure07:45
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icewtkkathman: well, i haven't really compared the ram usage. kde just works faster and is much better for my needs so i'm happy ;)07:46
kkathmanonce I got ram, KDE was way better for me too07:49
kkathmanbut I couldnt run KDE on my HP with 96MB of RAM :)07:49
Futalaccording to my experience, KDE doesn't use much RAM is well configured07:50
kkathmanwell I could,  but it was extremely non-performant07:50
icewtkkathman: hehe. that's what xfce is for ;)07:50
kkathmanexactly :)07:50
kkathmanand thats what I run on that system in fact07:50
[miles] damn, the package off www.skype.com has dep hell lol07:50
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icewt[miles] : use http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-static07:51
[miles] ok07:52
[miles] I'll give it a try07:52
Futalwith Mandriva, KDE 3.4 + LAMP + normal progs (OOo, skype, amarok, kopete), my average RAM use was 135MB07:52
[miles] static build should work07:52
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Futalit seems Kubuntu team hasn't got time to optimize yet because it's more now, around 155MB07:53
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[miles] wow, even the static fails07:56
[miles] mmm07:56
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icewtreally? strange. at least it used to work just fine in hoary07:57
[miles] lol07:58
[miles] nah07:58
[miles] fails07:58
[miles] ahwell07:58
[miles] bbiab07:58
KnowerrorsAnybody have a good link for rolling your own kubuntu custom kernel?07:58
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libbenwhy does a file on my desktop not exist?08:28
libbenit tells me it does not exist when i try to delete it08:28
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JosephHello.08:30
JosephCan anyone help me? KDE freezes whether I'm on Ubuntu or Kubuntu.08:30
JosephActually, the colors just go all funky on Ubuntu when I install KDE, but on Kubuntu, it freezes AND the colors go all funky. :(08:30
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flixorhya everybody 08:31
kikovhello.. anybody with ii  kopete                            3.4.92-0ubuntu1                       instant messenger for KDE08:31
JosephHello.08:32
kikovand working?08:32
JosephCan anoyne help me?08:32
JosephKDE is screwed. :(08:32
flixorwhat is  your problem Joseph 08:32
JosephKDE freezes whether I'm on Ubuntu or Kubuntu08:32
kikovI think mine is bork5n too08:32
kikovJoseph, maybe it's the shit of Gamin08:32
JosephActually, the colors just go all funky on Ubuntu when I install KDE, but on Kubuntu, it f reezes AND the colors go all funky.08:33
Joseph?08:33
JosephGamin?08:33
kikovJoseph, try to mv /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server to /usr/lib/gamin/gam_sever.old08:33
kikovthe replacement of FAM08:33
kikovanother File Alteration Monitor08:33
JosephI don't have linux installed currently. :(08:33
JosephWhat if that doesn't work?08:33
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JosephAny advice?08:33
kikovit's designed to use all available memory in the system08:33
kikovgamin08:33
Josephand how do i do that?08:35
Josephwhats the command?08:35
kikovJoseph, try to make a top08:35
kikovand see what's happening when it freezes08:35
JosephWhats that mean? :???08:35
kikovJoseph, mv /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server  /usr/lib/gamin/gam_sever.old08:35
JosephI'M NEW TO LINUX! xD08:35
JosephOh, I thoguht you meant.. nevermind.08:35
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robinhi08:35
robindoes kubuntu got 'non-free' stuff just like debian?08:35
robinI need unrar08:35
robinthe 'not free' version.08:35
kikovrobin, maybe it's in universe08:35
kikovlet me see08:35
kikovno08:35
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kikovit's not there...08:35
robinkikov: no I know :) 08:36
JosephOK.08:36
JosephBBL.08:36
JosephGonna install Kubuntu, and try this again. :08:36
Joseph:(08:36
JosephI've gotta liek repartition it first though. :(08:36
Josephanyone know any good free partitioners?08:36
Josephthats easy to use?08:36
kikovcfdisk08:36
kikovqparted08:36
Josephfor windows..08:37
kikovI don't use Windows, so, I don't know sorry08:37
Josephlol08:37
Joseph:(08:37
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kikovJoseph, do you know how can I install windows without fucking my Linux?08:37
robinJoseph: maybe you use a trial version :) of a commercial product.08:37
kikovhehe08:37
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kikovso...kopete from breezy is working well?08:43
Tm_Tyes08:44
Tm_Tand from svn even better ;)08:44
kikovTm_T, I can't get my accounts connected08:44
kikovnor jabber, nor yahoo, nor m$ messenger08:45
Tm_Tstrange08:46
kikovthe icons don't blink08:46
kikovwhen "trying to Connect"08:46
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Tm_Thmm, maybe you have kwallet problem08:46
kikovhow can I solve it?08:46
kikovyes, I have observed a wrong behaviour with kwallet and konqy08:47
Tm_Tit depends08:47
kikovwhen connecting to protected web pages ( HTTPS AUTH )08:47
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Tm_Tcan't remember exactly (and just got back home after tooo long car ride)08:47
kikovTm_T, it's documented the error?08:48
Tm_Tkikov: can't remember08:48
flixorhow can i remove the configuration of konqueror from kubuntu 08:51
flixori want the old kde konqueror back 08:51
Tm_Tah08:52
Tm_Thttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuKDE35BetaKnownProblems08:52
flixorTm_T: was that link for me08:53
Tm_Tyes08:54
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flixorbut i am not running kde 3.5 beta 08:54
flixori am running the kde version of kubuntu 5.10 08:54
kikovTm_T, that page doesn't say anything on kwallet :/08:54
Tm_Tkikov: no it doesn't08:54
Tm_Tflixor: ah, I remembered there's something mentioned about that08:55
Tm_Tflixor: but wait, it was faq :p08:55
flixoron the ubuntu website08:55
Tm_Thttp://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror08:55
Tm_Tthat one08:55
Tm_Tkikov: yeah, can't help you until get a proper sleep, srry :(08:56
flixorthanks let me look at it 08:56
Tm_Tyu, get some caffeine ->08:56
kikovok... thx Tm_T08:56
kikovI'm quite astonished by the amount of KDE related problems08:56
kikovwith kubuntu08:56
kikovare they upstream problems? or kubuntu ones?08:56
Tm_Tkubuntu mostly08:57
Tm_TI think08:57
Tm_Tbut I have no problems08:57
Tm_Tmaybe because I compile stuff too ;)08:57
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DelvienIs there a good CPU scaling monitor and controller for KDE, like cpufreqd in gnome? for the taskbar09:04
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FiretechDelvien: you might be able to make one with ksysguard and it's applet09:10
Firetechthere is a frequency "sensor" in it.09:10
Firetechwell, I think it is a software sensor09:11
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dragonkhhi09:25
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robinhow can I enable the midi sequencer device?09:29
robinI can't play midi files, and I need it for the old dos games :)09:29
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JosephCan anyone help me? Kubuntu freezes. :(09:30
robinJoseph: what's the problem?09:30
Joseph..Kubuntu freezes. -.-09:30
mth`MAWPut into your microwave ...09:30
mth`MAWSorry09:30
mth`MAW:)09:30
Joseph?09:30
Joseph:S09:30
mth`MAWWhen does ist freez?09:30
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JosephI don't know.09:31
JosephJust randomly.09:31
JosephLike about.. 30 seconds after I start Kubuntu.09:31
JosephWhen I try to do something, etc..09:31
DelvienFiretech ill have to i reaseach that more deeply, I dont see it in the option, its probily in the code09:31
mth`MAWWhat kind of computer09:32
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JosephHmm..09:33
mth`MAWdesktop09:33
mth`MAWlaptop?09:33
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JosephDesktop.09:33
JosephLol, thought you meant my specs.09:33
FiretechDelvien: start ksysguard (the application), somewhere in the sensor tree, there is a CPU frequency sensor, drag it to the applet09:33
DelvienFiretech how do i see the sensor tree?09:34
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JosephThis sucks.09:34
JosephNo one can EVER help me.09:34
JosephEVER.09:34
JosephEverything EVERYONE TRIES TO TELL ME NEVER works.09:35
mth`MAWThat can be of soooooo many things09:35
Delvienjoseph whats up , what do you nee dhelp with09:35
robinJoseph: pls don't cry09:35
mth`MAWbad RAM09:35
Firetechin the left of the window there should be a list with one item (localhost), it works like a directory tree09:35
JosephNow I'm really pissed off.09:35
mth`MAWbad processor09:35
JosephTHIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING SINCE BEFOREI REMEMBER.09:35
robinJoseph: check dmesg09:35
JosephI'M A LITTLE PISSED OFF.09:35
JosephYep.09:35
robinJoseph: relax09:35
JosephI've tried that.09:35
robinJoseph: shows no errors at all ?09:35
icewtis there some network activity monitor applet (or something) for kde?09:35
robinJoseph: /var/log/messages ??09:35
raphinkicewt: ksim09:35
JosephWell after itsb een happening so far and only on Kubuntu, it kind of pisses you off, you know?09:35
JosephI've checked dmesg09:35
Josephmany times.09:35
Delvienfiretech are we looking at the same thing? hehe09:35
raphinkicewt: and lost of karamba and superkaramba stuff too09:35
JosephEvenb efore I reinstalled Kubuntu, it never said anything.09:35
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robinJoseph: and /var/log/messages 09:36
JosephIt usually freezes before I can do anything though. :(09:36
raphinkicewt: there are also applets for kicker09:36
FiretechDelvien: I don't know, I just gave you a tip. I don't have a scaling enabled CPU myself, so I can't test09:36
kikovJoseph, please, remember, they're helping you at no cost09:36
robinJoseph: does it freeze, when you don't run into GUI mode ?09:36
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JosephI don't think it freezes.09:36
JosephOnly in GUI mode.09:36
JosephIs when it freezes, I'm pretty sure.09:37
icewtraphink: ok, thanks. i'd just like to have some simple applet that shows current network usage and how much has been transferred09:37
kikovJoseph, have you tried the gamin thing?09:37
JosephYes, well, when they try to help me, they give me useless advice.09:37
raphinkicewt: you've got the choice09:37
DelvienFiretech aye i see CPU load/Niceload CPUload /systemload and i see CPUload/user load, thats it, maybe there is an updated version you are using?09:37
JosephYes, I have.09:37
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kikovJoseph, I had that problems and moving that file solved out my problems09:37
Joseph:(09:37
raphinkicewt: kicker applets for the kde bar, ksim or karamba09:37
phanterhello, since I use breezy my wireless networkcard (intel2200) is not detected anymore09:37
robinJoseph: does the logs of xorg shows any errors ?09:37
JosephWell it didn't help me. :(09:37
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JosephI haven't checked that.09:37
robinJoseph: try taht09:38
JosephTell me so I can see if thats the problem.09:38
kikovJoseph, do you have nvidia?09:38
FiretechDelvien: there are more sensors for ksysgusrd, they are just not used right now09:38
JosephYes, I do.09:38
kikovfbnvidia + binary nvidia usually freeze the box09:38
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DelvienFiretech ah ok, do you know how to load /install them09:38
JosephWell how do I check Xorg?09:38
Delviensudo gedit /etx/X11/xorg.conf09:39
FiretechDelvien: they are installed, don't you see a white box in the left of ksysguard?09:39
Delviensudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:39
JosephThats going to edit it, isn't it?09:39
JosephNot check it. o.O09:39
Delvienno09:39
robinJoseph: the Xorg.log in /var/log09:39
icewtraphink: do you know some specific kicker applet to recommned?09:39
Delvienonm then jo :P09:39
raphinkicewt: nope09:39
raphinkbut I knwo there are some nice ones09:39
raphinkby default09:39
JosephOK.09:40
JosephI'm going to check it.09:40
JosephBRB.09:40
DelvienFiretech lol i was going off the applet :P 09:41
FiretechDelvien: you see it now?09:42
robinMultimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) <== I need Midi support, how do I enable it.09:42
DelvienFiretech Aye09:42
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FiretechDelvien: there should be something under localhost > processor0 (might be cpu0, I have a localized kde)09:43
DelvienFiretech how do i get it so this is in the Taskbar09:43
Firetechdrag the sensor to the taskbar area09:43
Firetechto the applet09:43
Firetechif you click the small black arrow for the applet, you can add another box for it09:44
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josephBack.09:45
josephI don't see any var/logs09:45
josepho.O09:45
josephSo far Kubuntu hasn't froze.09:45
Firetechjoseph: /var/log09:45
josephYeah, there isn't anything.09:45
josephOnly logrotate09:45
Firetech"/var/log/Xorg.log" should be there09:45
josephOh.09:46
josephw00ps09:46
Firetech*Xorg.0.log09:46
josephAND I'm supposed to read that WHOLE thing?09:46
robinjoseph: well we won't09:46
DelvienFiretech it reads my CPU correctly in the ksysguard, but it shows a 0 in the applet09:46
joseph(II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range)09:47
joseph(II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range)09:47
robinjoseph: DON"T PASTE HERE09:47
robinjoseph: use the pastebin09:47
josepho.O09:47
raphinkjoseph: check for errros, not for warning09:47
josephBut its not big.09:47
josephI thought that was an error.09:47
josepho.O09:47
FiretechDelvien: you need to set the correct limits for the applet09:47
josephNope, no errors.09:48
joseph..That I see.09:48
DelvienFiretech how do i do that09:48
FiretechDelvien: right click the applet09:48
Firetechselect properties09:48
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Delvienok09:49
josephIf I leave that means I had to restart.09:49
josephNow the colors are going all funky!09:50
josephAHH! EVERYTHINGS PURPLE!09:50
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Delvienfiretech got it :)09:51
Delvienfiretech thanks bro09:51
Firetechnp09:52
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JosephOK..09:52
JosephI'm back. ><09:52
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FiretechDelvien: what do you mean with cpu frequency controller?09:52
Firetechpowernowd does that, right?09:53
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JosephAw this sucks.09:53
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DelvienFiretech aye but cpufreqd let me change it at will09:55
FiretechDelvien: ah, ok09:56
DelvienFiretech i have a centrino m, in KDE my cpu acts kinda goofy, and takes more power than Gnome did for some reason09:56
Firetechit just works anyway ;)09:56
Firetechor not :P09:56
_levihow can i disable the caps lock key?10:01
_leviand how can i make it so my touchpad wont work when i type?10:01
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orangey_levi: about that "touchpad not working while you type", it's called "palmdetect" (if your palm is there) if you have a synaptics.10:10
orangey_levi: and there's something about while typing, but I don't know what.10:11
slow-motionn810:11
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swphi, when im executing a program via shell, then i have always to type "./program", how can i change it so i can start it with "program" only?10:17
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epMy system clock was not automaticly adjusted for Daylight Saving Time.  Why not?10:26
epI'm gonna be an hour early wherever I go.10:26
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JuerdPossibly your timezone wasn't set correctly.10:28
JuerdOr something went wrong.10:28
Riddellin north america the rules forsummer time have changed this year10:29
Riddellmy computer went a day early10:29
Tm_T:p10:29
epJuerd, how can i determine what my TZ setting is right now?10:30
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chimaera is anyone using kubuntu on ppc? i have probs w/ my usb scanner.10:32
chimaeraor better, with sane.10:32
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bur[n] eranyone else find krfb unusably slow... even over a LAN connection?  furthermore, anyone tried any alternatives?10:34
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swphi, when im executing a program via shell, then i have always to type "./program", how can i change it so i can start it with "program" only?10:38
epReading forum post suggesting going into the KDE Control Panel -> Appearance & Themes.  I'm not finding the control panel, is this Kinfo center or system settings or what?10:39
epi guess info would be 'info' :)10:40
chimaeraep: no, kinfo is something different. use either system settings or alt+f2 and type kcontrol10:40
bur[n] erep: system settings == kcontrol10:40
bur[n] er== control panel10:41
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redguyswp: put the program in a directory that is in the PATH shell variable10:41
bur[n] erswp: or a symlink in a directory with the PATH shell variable10:42
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bur[n] eri.e. sudo ln -s /home/swp/bin/myapplication /usr/bin/myapplication10:42
redguyswp: or change the PATH variable so that it contains the directory where the program is10:43
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bur[n] eror or... shoot, i'm out of ideas, you win redguy ;)10:44
swphm, i think thats not the way10:44
redguybur[n] er: hah!10:45
redguyswp: which way?10:45
swpi have a source, if i compile it on my comp, then it runs crappy, but if i compile it on the comp of the uni, then it cant find a lib because of this ./bla10:45
swpi need to be able to start the application with not having its path in PATH10:46
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swpits a bit complicatedt i think ;)10:46
epBoth, the "System Settings" entry on my menu and the system settings icon on the panel  open a  differnent process than kcontrol  (systemsettings -caption System Settings -icon systemsettings)10:46
bur[n] erit can't find a lib?  that doesn't sound like it's an issue with using ./bla10:46
bur[n] erswp: export PATH=PATH;~/10:46
bur[n] erswp: export PATH=$PATH;~/10:46
swpwell i start the app with ./app and then it tells me libthisandthat.so not found although its in the same dir10:47
epWeird, theres not even a kcontrol entry on the default menu setup.  Seems like that would be important.10:47
bur[n] erthat command makes hte home directory part of the PATH so that if your app is in ~/ and is called 'bla' then you can just type 'bla'10:48
swpand on the computer in the university i can start every app just being in its directory10:48
bur[n] erep: there is system settings... you're in kde right?10:48
swpya, but then i have to add every path to the variable, there must be another way10:48
bur[n] erwithout knowing the app, i dunno swp, sorr10:49
redguyswp: you could add ./ to $PATH, but thats evil10:49
epyes, KDE kubuntu 5.1 install.  There is system settings true.  There isnt kcontrol (on the menu).  They appear to be differnt apps.10:50
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_liquidbinary_hi!10:50
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redguyswp: concerning libs - you might want to read man ld.so10:50
thessjprova..10:51
bur[n] erep: they're not10:51
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bur[n] ersystem settings is just using konqueror in a different view to access the controls10:51
JosephThis ABSOLUTELY sucks.10:51
JosephKubuntu = suckage.10:51
redguyswp: LD_LIBRARY_PATH is similar to path, but defines where ld.so should look for libs10:51
JosephThis is the ONLY distro that I've had trouble with.10:51
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zer0timehi10:51
JosephHello.10:52
Joseph>: O10:52
bur[n] erJoseph: wipe the sand out of your vagina and ask a question if you have one ;)10:52
JosephBe quiet, nub. ;)10:52
JosephWell.10:52
JosephKubuntu keeps freezing.10:52
bur[n] er!enter10:52
ubotudon't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!10:52
JosephAnd the colors sometimes turn purple.10:52
JosephThats ALL I know.10:52
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zer0timeid like to know why if 3d acceleration is working perfectly for my ati radeon 9600 xt, glxgears command gives me very very low fps10:53
JosephI've tried many things people have suggested here, nothing works.10:53
JosephI've checked Xorg logs.10:53
JosephI've checked dmesg10:53
JosephNothing.10:53
bur[n] erzer0time: glxgears is not a benchmark tool10:53
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JosephNOTHING at all that I saw.10:53
bur[n] er!enter10:53
ubotudon't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!10:53
Joseph-.-10:53
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JosephSo I'm guessing you can't help me? :(10:54
zer0timeno, but, until now, my way to know glx extensions where working, was to do a glxgears and see fps, even if it was not as precise as a bechkmark test, it gave me an idea, (200 fps or 2500 fps)10:54
bur[n] erwhat kinda video card do you have Joseph?10:54
JosephYay.10:54
bur[n] erJoseph: have you had issues iwth other distros?10:54
zer0timenow, it just does not work10:54
JosephPNY Geforce 6600 GT10:54
redguyswp: if I were you I'd make ~/lib and ~/bin, added them to LD_LIBRARY_PATH and PATH respectively in your .bashrc and copy the executable and the libraries to them accordingly10:54
JosephNop.e10:55
epWell I found Kcontrol --> Appearance & Themes -->Launch Feedback  In kcontrol and i couldn't find the same thing in "System Settings".   Don't appear the same to me.10:55
JosephBut the only one I've tried recently is Kubuntu and Ubuntu.10:55
zer0timebur[n] er: 10:55
zer0timedid you read me10:55
JosephLast time I tried Mepis and other things that used KDE it ran fine.10:55
zer0timeso no answer for that I guess10:56
redguyswp: or simply ./configure && make && make install properly if it's possible10:56
_manverucheckinstall :)10:57
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swphmm....10:57
swpi think i let this problem be, cuz i have another good one ;)10:57
Joseph..>: O10:57
bur[n] erJoseph: have you installed the NVIDIA binary drivers?10:57
Josephnot that i kn owof.10:58
zer0timeso I must understand that what you said was bs? bur[n] er 10:58
bur[n] er!nvidia10:58
ubotusomebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia10:58
Josephand it probably wont let me10:58
Josephat the rate its freezing. ><10:58
redguyswp: shoot10:58
zer0timedid anyone have same issue?10:59
swpwhen i compile an App which uses the OpenGL widgets from Qt (qgl) then the OGL context stays black. When i compile the whole thing in the uni and run it on my comp then its fine (i use hoary)10:59
swpglxgears says 3500 fps, no mesacrap in glxinfo10:59
swpthe only thing is that glewinfo says, no OGL 2.0 support is there, how do i install OGL2.0 on hoary?11:00
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bur[n] erzer0time: glxinfo |grep direct 11:00
hjorthboggildHas anyone experienced KDE to crash when using Azureus (I'm running Java 1.5.0)11:00
swpits on11:00
bur[n] erzer0time: see if direct rendering == yes11:01
hjorthboggildit happens randomly11:01
bur[n] erhjorthboggild: u may want to check out ktorrent?  any reason to have azureus specifically?11:01
redguyswp: erm... sorry, not a slightest idea11:01
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swpall opengl apps work fine except those which use qgl _and_ are compiled on my comp11:01
hjorthboggildI'm used to Azureus, but using Ktorrent now. Just wondering why it makes Kubuntu crash11:01
epMy time some setting is CST, should it be CDT?  My system clock did not automatically adjust for daylight saving time.11:01
swpwell, thanks anyways :)11:01
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bur[n] erhjorthboggild: sorry, can't help ya there, i'm a Gnome user and azureus didn't crash for me :\11:02
hjorthboggildbur[n] er: that's also my own experience, never had a crash with Gnome, it only happens in KDE11:02
UnununiumHaving trouble enabling DRI: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/41144811:03
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epMy time zone setting is CST, I mean.   Is this the problem? I'm in USA, Central Time Zone.11:03
hjorthboggildbur[n] er: just wondering if it's a known KDE - Azureus problem, I have a friend running KDE on a Debian unstable, and Azureus also makes his KDE crash from time to time11:03
bur[n] erhjorthboggild: check bugzilla?11:04
epHence my system clock is one hour off. sudo ntpdate will correct it, right?11:05
epNo parameters?11:05
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bur[n] erep: daylight savings setting?11:06
bur[n] erep: blah, disregard that, i didnt' read up enough11:07
zer0timebur[n] er: that was not my question, I dont want to see if they work, I know 3d work, What I wanted to know is why glxgears command does not even show fps11:07
epThats what I want bur[n] er ,  How can i verify.11:07
bur[n] erzer0time: google for glxgears in breezy ;)11:07
zer0timethats like, I dont know, ok, anyone with that issue?11:07
bur[n] erglxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark11:08
bur[n] ertry that zer0time :)11:08
epthat one screwed me up too11:08
zer0timehow many distros have you tried11:08
zer0time?11:08
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zer0timein how many a glxgears didnt show you fps values?11:08
swp"glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark" if this is true...lol11:09
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epAnyway my time problem ought to be a simple matter to correct why didn't my clock automatically adjust for daylight savings time?11:09
zer0timehahaha, fine11:09
Blues-DriveEr..11:09
zer0timeso no fucking idea why I guess, dont tell me to google it then11:09
Josepho.O11:09
JosephWHO BE YOU?!11:09
JosephNUB!!11:09
Josepho.O11:09
Blues-DriveIm trying to install Kubuntu and its.. just not working.. can anybody help out?11:09
Josephyes.11:10
Josephwell, no.11:10
Josephi was saying yest o something else.11:10
Joseph><11:10
swpwhy is this so green11:10
Josephwhy is kubuntu freezing?11:10
zer0timeenjoy the silence...11:10
Blues-Drive>.>11:10
kokurya^afkfreezing?11:10
Tm_TBlues-Drive: ehm, you are using colours11:10
icewtBlues-Drive: maybe if you were a little more specific11:10
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Josephwha?11:11
Josephsorry.11:12
Blues-DriveIs this better?11:12
Josephyes.11:12
Josephkubuntu = freezing11:12
Josephand usually the colors go purple too. xD11:12
redguyJoseph: someone has put it in the freezer?11:12
Josephwtf?!11:12
Josepho.O11:12
Blues-DriveOkay well.. I have my hard drive completely formatted, and I have the Kubuntu install disk in my CD drive.. and its asking for some boot disk in the floppy drive.11:12
Josepho.O11:12
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Josephkubuntu sucks.11:13
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swpmaybe it wants to create a bootdisk, Blues-Drive 11:14
Blues-DriveWell I have it up on my other montiro.. heres what it says exactly11:14
epwhat's a public server I can use to set my clock via 'ntpdate server'?11:14
Blues-DriveEr.. Its kinda slow one sec.11:15
swp;)11:15
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Blues-DriveSearching for Boot Recod from Floppy..Not Found11:16
JosephCan anyone help me? Kubuntu keeps freezing and the colors go weird!11:16
Blues-Drive200: Boot Failure11:16
Blues-Drive203:Insert BOOT diskette in A:11:16
Blues-DrivePress any key when ready_11:16
icewtJoseph: that sounds like a grapchis card problem. what card do you have?11:17
swpis the boot cd not booting, or the installed system?11:17
Blues-DriveThe hard drive is completely wiped, and after its done doing its memory check thing, it goes to that message..11:17
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JosephPNY11:17
JosephGeforce 6600 GT11:17
swpafter what memorychecking? how have you wiped the hd?11:18
Blues-DriveI formatted it11:18
icewtJoseph: have you installed the 3d-enabled drivers for it?11:18
Blues-DriveI had the old hard drive linked up to this one, formatted and then put it back into my other comp.11:18
JosephI don't think so. o.O11:18
Josephbut i dont know if i even hae the time for that.11:19
Josephbecause it freezes quickly. :(11:19
swphmm, to me it sounds like you havent activated booting from cdrom11:19
Josephunless i can get it in terminal mode or w/e11:19
redguyBlues-Drive: try telling the BIOS to boot from the CD11:19
Josephand do it on synaptic11:19
Josephor w/e11:19
Josephapt-get11:19
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icewtJoseph: well, maybe you could try to install the drivers and see if it makes a difference11:19
Blues-DriveI tried that.. And it still looks for the floppy.. I even told the BIOS that there wasnt an A: drive installed and still the same thing11:19
epOk i reset the system clock va ntpdate.  how can reset the hardware clock to match? 11:20
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JosephHow?11:20
Josephlol.11:20
Josephwhats teh command?11:20
redguyBlues-Drive: maybe the image was corrupt?11:20
swptell bios to boot first from cd, tell him not to boot from floppy, and check if you have burned the cd correctly11:20
swpagree@redguy11:21
Blues-DriveIve got it set to boot first from CD drive, and nothing else.11:21
Blues-DriveAnd the CD is burned correctly, I'm sure of it :P11:21
icewtJoseph: it's just simply: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" and after that "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable". then reboot11:22
swphey, i know somebody whos burnin isos directly on the cd :P11:22
Blues-DriveWell its not the ISO image itself on the CD11:22
swpnot reboot icewt , restart x11:22
Blues-DriveSo yeah, its burned right :P11:22
epI tried --> hwclock --systohc   and got an error timestamp too far in the future: Oct 30 17:16:43 2005.  I need to reset my hardware clock to.11:22
icewtswp: rebooting is easier to explain ;)11:22
JosephOK. BRB.11:22
redguyep: hwclock --systohc11:22
epthats what i did , using sudo.  I'll try again11:23
swpaye, i know, i think the iso was corrupted or the cd has a scratch, or the cdrom drive is broken or whateva...hm...strange11:23
redguyep: hrm...11:23
Blues-DriveNope, its all working.. The CD loads fine on this computer.11:23
swpicewt, ;)11:23
epsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 30 17:16:43 200511:24
epstill the same error message11:24
Blues-DriveCD drive works on my other comp.. Both drives, Tried both too..11:24
Blues-DriveShould I set some special jumper setting on my hard drive and CD drives?11:24
swpno11:25
swpif there was a running OS in this box before, then the jumper settings should be okay11:25
DelvienHow do i turn off that ANNOYING system bell when i backspace too far11:25
swptried some other boot cd?? Blues-Drive 11:25
Delvienscares the shit out of me each time11:25
redguyep: what does hwclock say?11:25
epI've already reset the system clock, the correct time here is 16:16:43  (my hardware clock is still  hour off cause breezy didn't adjust my clock on the time change) 11:25
redguyep: that is hwclock, without any arguments11:26
Blues-DriveWell.. 11:26
Blues-DriveI used to have 98 installed on this11:26
Blues-DriveWell.. It11:26
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ephwclock --show outouts --> Sun 30 Oct 2005 05:26:10 PM CST  -0.106130 seconds11:26
Delviendoes 3ddesktop work in KDE?11:26
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DelvienDoes Anyone know if 3dDesktop works for KDE? 11:27
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JosephHello.11:29
JosephBack.11:29
Tm_TDelvien: it does11:29
JosephIt says the command wasn't found (sudo nvidia glx-config enable)11:29
swpits "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"11:30
Joseph-.-11:30
Josephok.11:30
Josephbrb again. xD11:30
redguyep: well I had the same thing: not that the message is coming from sudo, not from hwclock itself. Does sudo allow you even to enter the password?11:31
swphm...11:31
redguyep: s/not that/note that/11:31
epusually I closed the console. I'll try again11:32
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poimenhi11:33
poimenI Installed wine but I dont see its config file were it is located?11:33
epredguy, ok this time I got a password prompt and it worked.  I must of screwed something up the first go-around.11:34
swpis someone running breezy and has a geforce and glew installed?11:35
epI hope my timezone setting is correct.  I'm not clear on this?   My clock was not automaticllay adjusted for DST11:35
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epShould #date list CST or CDT or does that depend on the time of the year?11:37
ep$date11:37
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josephOK.11:37
josephUmm..11:37
josephI think it worked.11:37
redguyep: not sure either11:37
josephThanks guys!11:37
josephIf it doesn't work I'm not coming back.11:37
josephFINALLY, after like a year, ITS WORKING!11:37
josephI am SO happy.11:38
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swpwhat works joseph ?11:38
josephFinally, I can actually sue the Distro I want too.11:38
josephKubuntu.11:38
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josephBefore it froze and turned purple.11:38
swphm11:38
redguyjoseph: sue?!?!11:38
joseph?11:38
crimsunI think he meant "use"11:38
josephWait.11:39
josephWTf.11:39
josephYeah. What he said.11:39
kairu0lol11:39
josephlmao.11:39
crimsungranted everyone I know would love to sue the distro (s)he uses11:39
crimsun:p11:39
josephthats awesome.11:39
joseph;)11:39
_heulSuSE_Hi!11:39
DelvienAnyone know of a Fan control Daemon for KDE?11:39
icewtjoseph: so the nvidia drivers fixed it?11:40
kairu0i have a question. today i started up my computer, logged into kde, and found that my network interface was disabled (I have no idea why.) i reenabled it with kcontrol but anyone know why this happened?11:40
Tm_TI'm not yet that popular to need a control fans11:40
josephHey.11:40
josephDoes anyone know how to install Limewire?11:40
josephI chose the Other option when it said which one to download, BUT, When I open and extract the zip file, it has an exe in it! :O11:41
josephAlso, its a zip file! >: O11:41
Delvienjoseph do a "non-KDE application" special button on yur taskbar, then download limewireother, and run the runLime.sh with the special button you created11:41
Delvienjoseph if you cant unzip the file, sudo apt-get install unrar11:42
_manveruhttp://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/16/limewire-client-for-ubuntu/11:42
josepho.O11:42
josephWeird!11:42
josephThanks. :)11:42
UnununiumI'll just take my question (DRI stuff) to the x.org lists.  Thanks anyway.11:43
_manveruthat was unununium? :)11:43
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_manveruwhat the hell is he doing in #kubuntu....11:43
josephWait.11:44
Delvienwhy is the superkaramba site so poorly made... lol11:44
_manveruyeah, this is not telling you how to install limewire11:44
josephI kind of figured that. o.O11:44
josephHow do I do it then?11:44
josephI think.11:44
joseph:S11:44
_manveruhmm11:45
_manveruis das nicht java?11:45
joseph?11:45
Delviendont install limewire,  itsnot worth it11:45
_manverulimewire... reading at google that it is in java...11:45
josephYes, on windows.11:45
josephI don't know about Linux though.11:46
_manveruhave you got java installed?11:46
josephI don't think so.11:46
_manveruubotu: tell joseph about java11:46
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icewtdoesn't limewire use gnutella network? there's gtk-gnutella11:47
_manveruthis is what the link says that i gave joseph...11:47
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bobbydhi11:48
_manverubut he seems to insist on limewire...11:48
Delvienyes its differnt , in a sense, limewire is more eyecandy and more user friendly11:48
bobbydhow do I stop kubuntu automatically opening a window when I plug in a USB mass storage device?11:48
bobbydI mean a konqueror window11:49
_manveruget rid of konqueror? :)11:50
_manverui think there is a kde-daemon who is looking for devices11:50
_manverumaybe kde-components>services11:51
_manveruin kconfig11:51
bobbyd_manveru, I just want to stop it for USB devices...11:51
_manveruin this case there might be a configuration-file somewhere...11:52
_manverusorry i can't help you much with that, i never plugged in a usb-key or something...11:54
_manverunot even a cd11:54
bobbydok thanks11:54
_manveruhow about checking google?11:54
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josephOK well.11:55
_manveruhttp://kubuntuforums.net/index.php?topic=818.new11:55
josephI think I have Java installed.11:56
josephNow how do I install Limewire? o.O11:56
_manveru@ bobbyd11:56
josephI like Limewire because I use it with Windows.11:56
josephAnd I like it. :)11:56
bobbydjoseph, azureus works on win and linux and doesn't have a load of spyware...11:56
josephLimewire doesn't either, does it? o.O11:57
josephI've never had a problem with it.11:57
bobbydthanks _manveru 11:57
bobbydjoseph, it did at one point11:57
josephBut it doesn't now does it?11:57
josephIf it does then I think I'll just use something else.11:58
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kairu0someone here recommended FrostWire to me and i like it11:58
josephYeah.11:58
bobbydjoseph, I have no idea, I use azureus, and to tell the truth it's an excellent client11:58
josephI heard you say that.11:58
josephWhen you messaged me.11:58
josephNo clue what it is though. :(11:58
bobbydwe'll have no massaging in here thanks!11:58
josephAzureus is OK.11:58
joseph?11:58
bobbydthis is a family channel11:58
bobbyd:)11:58
josephWait..11:58
josephYou mean he/she can't private message me?11:58
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kairu0joseph, FrostWire uses the limewire network11:59
josephWHAT KIND OF CHANNEL IS THIS?!11:59
bobbydjoseph, no that's fine, it's the massaging that the problem11:59
Blues-DriveI think I got somewhere11:59
josephI know, because it has Wire at the end of it. ;)11:59
josephWell he was PMing me. o.O11:59
kairu0joseph, and it smells of magonias11:59
Blues-DriveIm now able to acess my A: drive to do stuff.11:59
bobbydjoseph, I mean, if it's a normal swedish massage, that's ok11:59
joseph?11:59
josephYOUR CONFUSING ME!11:59
josephBe quiet! o.O11:59
kairu0lol11:59
bobbydjoseph, but anything asian is strictly forbidden12:00
kairu0bobbyd, what about if a private asian masseuse sends you a private message?12:00
joseph..12:00
bobbydkairu0, that's fine12:01
bobbydkairu0, read the damn FAQ man!12:01
kairu0bobbyd, lol12:01
bobbydsection 3.2.5.412:01
bobbydsubsection c12:01
bobbydwow I've really been programming too long12:01
Blues-Driveer..12:02
Blues-DriveSWP, you still here?12:02
epwhat about gnutella?12:04
DelvienAnyone here use i8kutils ?12:04

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