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| Mithrandir | hub: you joining us for dinner today? | 12:34 |
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| Riddell | there's dinner today? | 12:40 |
| siretart | hi folks | 12:44 |
| \sh | good evening from montreal :) | 12:44 |
| \sh | huhu siretart.. | 12:44 |
| siretart | ;) | 12:45 |
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| blueyed | Wouldn't it be nice to to have an openssh-server package that has the chroot patch applied? or to have the patch applied to the main package? (http://chrootssh.sourceforge.net/) | 12:54 |
| crimsun | blueyed: I don't think kamion is going to be too hot to apply it | 12:55 |
| blueyed | But it's a great feature and such a small patch. | 12:56 |
| blueyed | crimsun: would it be synced from debian? | 12:57 |
| crimsun | blueyed: "it"? | 12:57 |
| crimsun | just ask kamion, since he's the Debian maintainer, too | 12:57 |
| blueyed | crimsun: apt-cache shows matthew. | 12:58 |
| crimsun | for ssh? | 12:59 |
| crimsun | ah | 12:59 |
| crimsun | ask kamion, then | 12:59 |
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| Kyral | hey guys | 01:05 |
| Kyral | Stupid question | 01:05 |
| Kyral | but does UBZ start tomarrow at 9 AM EST or EDT? | 01:05 |
| crimsun | the former, I assume | 01:09 |
| Kyral | Okay, time changes get confusing | 01:10 |
| crimsun | the new extension doesn't begin until 2007 | 01:10 |
| Kyral | It changes tonight | 01:10 |
| crimsun | tomorrow. | 01:11 |
| crimsun | 2 AM EDT->1 AM EST | 01:11 |
| crimsun | for me, that is. | 01:11 |
| Kyral | 2 AM on 10/30 | 01:11 |
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| farruinn | crimsun: I've never done this before, so let me make sure I'm doing what you want. You need the debdiff between the ubuntu 2.0.4 package and the 3.0.2 package I made, right? | 01:20 |
| crimsun | yes | 01:21 |
| crimsun | between the dscs | 01:21 |
| farruinn | ok, I'll brb, I need to get to the ubuntu machine | 01:23 |
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| crimsun | farruinn: posted anywhere yet? | 01:37 |
| farruinn | crimsun: sorry, like I said I've never done this. One second and I'll give you a link | 01:39 |
| farruinn | crimsun: http://www2.potsdam.edu/sprang31/solfege2.0.4-3.0.2.debdiff | 01:47 |
| farruinn | crimsun: thanks for bearing with me, I hope that's what you need | 01:48 |
| Kyral | SUNY is on I2? | 01:48 |
| farruinn | I2? | 01:48 |
| crimsun | yes, it is | 01:48 |
| crimsun | nearly all US universities are on I2 | 01:48 |
| Kyral | farruinn, you go to SUNY right? | 01:49 |
| farruinn | Kyral: yes | 01:49 |
| Kyral | Your one of you IT people is married to President Collins, no? | 01:50 |
| farruinn | I have no idea | 01:51 |
| farruinn | (I take it that's the Clarkson president?) | 01:52 |
| Kyral | Ja | 01:52 |
| farruinn | oh wait... I work with a woman named Karen Collins, maybe her? | 01:52 |
| Kyral | yah | 01:52 |
| Kyral | Think so | 01:52 |
| Kyral | what year are you? | 01:53 |
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| Nafallo | should something happen after I send mail to submit@bugs.debian.org? | 02:12 |
| Nafallo | like the bug show up or something? :-P | 02:13 |
| crimsun | eventually you'll get an ack | 02:14 |
| minghua | Nafallo: yes, but there's usually a delay | 02:14 |
| minghua | the cron job runs every 15 minutes | 02:14 |
| Nafallo | ah, thanx :-) | 02:14 |
| Nafallo | I thought I was stupid and can't even compile a good mail or something :-P | 02:14 |
| === Nafallo just read DebianPatchFeeding and felt guilty :-P | ||
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| Nafallo | hmm | 02:55 |
| === Nafallo gives debian some patches. maybe we can shrink the delta. | ||
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| LaserJock | \sh: hi! are you in Montreal yet? | 02:24 |
| Nafallo | \sh: morning darling :-) | 02:25 |
| \sh | LaserJock: jepp | 02:25 |
| LaserJock | sweet | 02:25 |
| \sh | Nafallo: morning honey..:) | 02:25 |
| Kyral | I should print out directions... | 02:26 |
| Nafallo | \sh: I'm filing bugs on debian :-P | 02:26 |
| LaserJock | \sh: is the money situation working out ok? | 02:26 |
| \sh | LaserJock: after an adventure flight | 02:26 |
| Nafallo | \sh: easier then I thought ;-) | 02:26 |
| ajmitch | Kyral: you'll be here in the morning then? | 02:26 |
| \sh | LaserJock: well...actually ogra is helping out...but i will change my bank after i will come back from ubz | 02:26 |
| Kyral | ajmitch, yah driving in from Potsdam NY | 02:27 |
| === ajmitch just has the money problem of needing more of it ;) | ||
| Kyral | I hope there is free food...... | 02:27 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: don't we all? ;-) | 02:27 |
| \sh | ajmitch: well...i'm really frustrated about this money shit... | 02:27 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: drinking BOFs might get expensive by the end of the week :) | 02:28 |
| Nafallo | \sh: huh? something you haven't blogged about? | 02:28 |
| ajmitch | reminds me that I should track planet more closely ;) | 02:28 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: ehm... what bird are you trying to make with those? :-P | 02:29 |
| \sh | Nafallo: no...this is really a serious problem i have to solve first , and then i'll blog about | 02:29 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: the drunken antics of UBZ? | 02:29 |
| Nafallo | \sh: ah. so what _is_ the issue (for those of us that can't wait for that) | 02:29 |
| ajmitch | ssh is a little lagged from here :( | 02:29 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: :-) | 02:29 |
| \sh | Nafallo: my bank is too slow..at least one or two days too slow | 02:30 |
| \sh | Nafallo: normally the money should be on my account on friday..but this didn't happen | 02:30 |
| === ajmitch hopes he gets paid next week | ||
| Nafallo | \sh: ouch. | 02:31 |
| \sh | Nafallo: well..should be on my account on monday so i can pay everything back | 02:31 |
| Nafallo | let's hope :-). | 02:32 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 02:33 |
| Nafallo | it's apache-restart-day today, right? | 02:33 |
| Nafallo | ehm, I mean sunday | 02:34 |
| Kyral | I guess there is a small delegation from Clarkson University and SUNY Potsdam going tomarrow ;P | 02:34 |
| Nafallo | Kyral: where small is you? ;-) | 02:34 |
| ajmitch | \sh: what problems did you have? | 02:34 |
| Kyral | Actually is like 7 people from Clarkson (Check the Attendees list) and some people from SUNY | 02:35 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: do you know how the list on UniversePackageWithoutDesktopFile is created? | 02:35 |
| \sh | ajmitch: later...during drinking bof | 02:35 |
| Nafallo | Kyral: well. I'm lazy ;-). | 02:35 |
| Kyral | lol | 02:35 |
| ajmitch | \sh: ok, I think I might skip the drinking BOF tonight though | 02:35 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: nope :) | 02:35 |
| \sh | ajmitch: oh ok...so tomorrow i'll explain everything | 02:35 |
| Kyral | I'll have a navy blue shirt that says "Clarkson University Department of Mathematics and Computer Science" on it, happy ;P | 02:36 |
| === ajmitch will be the one collapsed in a corner somewhere | ||
| Kyral | lol | 02:37 |
| Kyral | If I don't get caffine into me soon after I wake up I will be too | 02:37 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: fixed my f-spot bug yet, btw? ;-) | 02:37 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: nope | 02:37 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: I imported the photos I've taken and now it crashes on startup ;-) | 02:38 |
| \sh | ajmitch: come on...siretart and i are the ones with the bad jetlag :) | 02:38 |
| ajmitch | \sh: you know how long it took me to get to montreal :) | 02:38 |
| === Nafallo loves using dapper :-) | ||
| Nafallo | it's really funny to fool jenny that I've upgraded her computer also ;-) | 02:40 |
| Nafallo | \sh: what's the plan with gajim's debian/ubuntu delta? | 02:40 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 02:40 |
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| ajmitch | hey koke | 02:43 |
| ajmitch | at the hotel now, I guess? | 02:43 |
| \sh | ajmitch: yeah :) but the best way to get over it, is to have some fun with the other tired guys :) | 02:43 |
| ajmitch | heh | 02:44 |
| Kyral | Aww I feel left out. I'm just sitting here in my dorm room reading the Jargon File | 02:44 |
| Kyral | :P | 02:44 |
| \sh | Nafallo: well...leave it...we will have always a delta...just because of the "human" default theme for ubuntu | 02:44 |
| \sh | Kyral: where r u? | 02:44 |
| koke | ajmitch: yeah | 02:44 |
| Kyral | Clarkson University | 02:44 |
| Kyral | 2 1/2 hours away from Montreal | 02:45 |
| Nafallo | \sh: hehe, well. that's a small delta compared to now ;-) | 02:45 |
| ajmitch | koke: great, just arrived here? | 02:45 |
| \sh | Kyral: oh... | 02:45 |
| koke | \sh: I'm thinking on going directly to sleep now | 02:45 |
| \sh | Nafallo: lets leave it ... we will have 0.9 coming in 2 months | 02:45 |
| koke | ajmitch: yeah, this is weird. I got a suite | 02:45 |
| ogra | koke, youre here ?? | 02:45 |
| koke | ogra: yes | 02:45 |
| ajmitch | koke: lucky you, want to swap? ;) | 02:45 |
| ogra | koke, the rooma are all this big ;) | 02:45 |
| \sh | koke: hmmm....how long was your flight? | 02:45 |
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| ogra | *rooms | 02:45 |
| Nafallo | \sh: hmm, that means we should roll 0.8.2+svn till then? ;-) | 02:45 |
| ogra | koke, cool :) | 02:45 |
| Nafallo | ogra: hi! :-) | 02:46 |
| Kyral | Early wakeup time tomorrow ;P | 02:46 |
| ajmitch | koke: what room # ? | 02:46 |
| \sh | Nafallo: somehow we could do this :) | 02:46 |
| ogra | Nafallo, hey | 02:46 |
| koke | \sh:too much, 7h form london | 02:46 |
| koke | 320 | 02:46 |
| Nafallo | \sh: extra testing etcetera :-) | 02:46 |
| \sh | koke: oh come on...we had 8 hours flight, 10 hours stay in the plane | 02:46 |
| koke | btw, is whiprush here? | 02:46 |
| ogra | he was planning to | 02:46 |
| ajmitch | ok, so you're down on the 3rd floor with some of the others.. | 02:46 |
| \sh | koke: and 6 hours jetlag :) | 02:46 |
| ogra | dunno if he's already here | 02:46 |
| === ajmitch is on 5th floor, 503 | ||
| \sh | he's not coming | 02:46 |
| Nafallo | ogra: did we ever have a list of things that needs merging? :-) | 02:47 |
| koke | \sh: 7 + 2 from madrid + 2 in train :) | 02:47 |
| ajmitch | he's not? :( | 02:47 |
| \sh | ajmitch: no he mentioned it on his blog | 02:47 |
| koke | what about some beer in the bar?? | 02:47 |
| ajmitch | koke: 3+12+2.5+4.5 for me :) | 02:47 |
| \sh | koke: well...there is a problem...fabbione :) | 02:48 |
| koke | \sh: what's the problem | 02:48 |
| \sh | koke: he wants to go to super sexe | 02:48 |
| \sh | koke: join #ubz | 02:48 |
| koke | w00t? | 02:48 |
| ogra | Nafallo, we should get a lit from KEybuk soon, seems MOM could work for universe... since we didnt respect the freezes | 02:48 |
| ogra | *list | 02:49 |
| Nafallo | ogra: ah, oki :-) | 02:49 |
| Nafallo | I bug debian about stuff they should take before we can sync stuff atm :-) | 02:49 |
| ogra | no promises though | 02:50 |
| Nafallo | but I only knew two packages by heart :-P | 02:50 |
| === Nafallo gave gazpacho a grave-bug ;-) | ||
| Nafallo | +patch :-P | 02:51 |
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| Nafallo | anyway, 2:50 here or something. | 02:52 |
| Nafallo | I should sleep | 02:52 |
| Nafallo | gnight all | 02:52 |
| ogra | night Nafallo | 02:52 |
| Kyral | I'm so nervous about tomorrow | 03:02 |
| ajmitch | why? | 03:03 |
| Kyral | I'm afraid I'm gonna make on idiot of myself | 03:04 |
| ajmitch | don't worry | 03:04 |
| ajmitch | we all do that | 03:04 |
| Kyral | Yah, but it seems to happen a LOT more often with me | 03:05 |
| ajmitch | heh | 03:06 |
| pietrus | may i ask a question about ubuntu development? | 03:07 |
| pietrus | packages from debian are syced automatically to universe or motus do it manually? | 03:07 |
| ajmitch | automatic until upstream version freeze, if we haven't previously modified it in ubuntu | 03:12 |
| Amaranth | pietrus: Unless the ubuntu package has any changes it happens automatically at the start of a development cycle. | 03:12 |
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| TiMiDo | ey people | 03:17 |
| LaserJock | hi | 03:17 |
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| Kyral | goodnight all and cya at UBZ tomorrow :D | 04:02 |
| zakame | hi all | 04:10 |
| _Tonio_ | hi | 04:10 |
| zakame | is there a policy from ubuntu or debian about packaging www servers? if so, where can I find it? | 04:11 |
| _Tonio_ | what do you mean by "packaging www.servers?" ? | 04:12 |
| _Tonio_ | there is one for debian, I think ubuntu's one's the same.... | 04:13 |
| _Tonio_ | let me check if I have the link here..... | 04:13 |
| zakame | I'm packaging lighttpd atm, and I want to know what to do during the {post,pre}{inst,rm} scripts | 04:13 |
| zakame | I'd also like to know if what stuff a www server can put in /var/www | 04:14 |
| _Tonio_ | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ | 04:15 |
| _Tonio_ | you might find what you're search for there... but good luck for the reading. | 04:15 |
| zakame | okies thanks :D | 04:15 |
| _Tonio_ | I must say I don't have a simple answer to your question. | 04:15 |
| _Tonio_ | zakame: no pb | 04:15 |
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| zakame | hmmm, would it be feasible to split lighttpd into lighttpd and liblighttpd-mod-* like what apache2 does? | 04:37 |
| Lathiat | zakame: yeh | 04:38 |
| Lathiat | proably a good idea if lighttpd supports it | 04:38 |
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| hub | Mithrandir: I did :-). | 04:43 |
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| zakame | Lathiat: you mean the modular configuration? | 04:44 |
| Lathiat | zakame: i havent used it, but more, whether you can compile in modules and not have them loaded at runtime, etc | 04:45 |
| zakame | Lathiat: yes, lighttpd can do that :) My only gripe is that its configuration syntax is a bit confusing... | 04:47 |
| zakame | ... but its like Perl, so, it ought to be just normal :) | 04:47 |
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| zakame | Lathiat: thanks! :D | 04:55 |
| hub | do I have to export and send the signed key ? | 05:31 |
| ogra | hub, just print the fingerprint and key id several times | 05:45 |
| hub | ogra: I have business card with key ID | 05:46 |
| hub | ogra: so that's ok. but I was wondering after doing a --sign-key if I had to send it to its owner | 05:46 |
| ogra | then you need the fingerprint only... i'm not sure if anybody planned a keysigning party | 05:46 |
| hub | ogra: are you in Mtl? | 05:46 |
| ogra | ye | 05:46 |
| ogra | s | 05:46 |
| hub | ah | 05:46 |
| hub | I come back from the dinner with the ubuntu guys | 05:47 |
| ogra | else i wouldnt be awake at this horrible time ;) | 05:47 |
| hub | I'm home now | 05:47 |
| hub | and out of beer:-( | 05:47 |
| tritium | ogra, it's not even midnight, is it? | 05:47 |
| ogra | oh, we just had a drinking BOF | 05:47 |
| ogra | tritium, its 6:47am in my home TZ :) | 05:48 |
| hub | tritium: it is almost 1 | 05:48 |
| hub | ogra: yeah I read that with \sh | 05:48 |
| tritium | ogra, fair enough. DST ends tonight... | 05:48 |
| ogra | yup | 05:48 |
| hub | I crossed Daniel Silverstone and we exchange keys and picture IDs | 05:48 |
| ogra | ah, didnt see him around yet | 05:48 |
| hub | and the wiki page say " Sign the key of the person you've just met. Send him/her the key you've just signed." | 05:48 |
| ogra | he wasnt at dinner with us | 05:48 |
| hub | so I was wondering | 05:48 |
| hub | ogra: nor with us | 05:49 |
| ogra | yes, send it to him... he has to upload it | 05:49 |
| hub | ok. | 05:49 |
| ogra | dont upload it yourself, he needs to confirm | 05:49 |
| ogra | so leave it in his hands | 05:49 |
| hub | first time I sign keys :-) | 05:49 |
| hub | make sense. just wanted to make sure | 05:49 |
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| hub | 46KB for an armored key? | 05:53 |
| hub | wow | 05:53 |
| ogra | dsilvers ? | 05:55 |
| ogra | yes, he's got quite some signs already :) | 05:55 |
| hub | ogra: dsilvers | 05:59 |
| ogra | yup | 05:59 |
| hub | I just printed a newer stack of cards | 06:00 |
| ogra | heh | 06:00 |
| hub | I threw away 300 cards last week, they became useless | 06:01 |
| ogra | ok, i'm off to bed now, got a talk tomorrow... and if i'm not attending sabdfls talk at 9am i risk my job ;) | 06:01 |
| hub | okay | 06:04 |
| hub | see you there | 06:04 |
| Amaranth | anyone taking notes or recording the talks? | 06:06 |
| hub | taking notes probably a lot of people | 06:11 |
| hub | I'll surely take pictures | 06:11 |
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| zyga | morning | 08:10 |
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| zakame | hi all | 08:37 |
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| TiMiDo | hey anyone here? | 09:24 |
| ivoks | nope :) | 09:25 |
| TiMiDo | oh thnx | 09:25 |
| TiMiDo | hey how do i join a Team? | 09:25 |
| TiMiDo | on launchpad | 09:25 |
| ivoks | which team? | 09:25 |
| TiMiDo | UbuntuCoreDevelopmentTea | 09:26 |
| TiMiDo | m | 09:26 |
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| ivoks | uh :) | 09:26 |
| ivoks | thath #ubuntu-devel | 09:26 |
| ivoks | you have to become member first | 09:26 |
| ivoks | then motu | 09:27 |
| TiMiDo | how do i become a member? | 09:27 |
| ivoks | then you'll get a chance to become main developer | 09:27 |
| TiMiDo | oh ic, | 09:27 |
| TiMiDo | so how do i become a member ivoks? | 09:27 |
| robitaille | http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember | 09:27 |
| ivoks | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/newmember | 09:27 |
| ivoks | oh :) | 09:27 |
| TiMiDo | and yes i been to the meetings also =) | 09:28 |
| robitaille | my mouse is faster than yours ivoks :) | 09:28 |
| TiMiDo | so i have to send the gpg key to Benjamin Mako Hill | 09:28 |
| TiMiDo | ? | 09:28 |
| ivoks | robitaille: i don't have mouse :) | 09:29 |
| ivoks | TiMiDo: it's very simple | 09:29 |
| TiMiDo | is it? | 09:29 |
| ivoks | TiMiDo: you have to do something for community | 09:29 |
| TiMiDo | like what? | 09:29 |
| ivoks | then go to CC meeting and become mebmer | 09:29 |
| ivoks | then sign CoC with your trusted gpg key | 09:30 |
| ivoks | then do some help for motu | 09:30 |
| ivoks | and become motu | 09:30 |
| TiMiDo | what can i do for the community?? | 09:30 |
| ivoks | then work hard every day to maybe get a chance for main developer | 09:30 |
| ivoks | TiMiDo: whatever | 09:30 |
| TiMiDo | like writting a document? | 09:30 |
| ivoks | whatever you think is good for community | 09:31 |
| TiMiDo | ok, | 09:31 |
| === TiMiDo is thinking | ||
| ivoks | CC will decide if that good enough | 09:31 |
| TiMiDo | who's cc? | 09:31 |
| ivoks | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/newmember | 09:32 |
| ivoks | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/newmember | 09:32 |
| ivoks | sorry for double paste :/ | 09:32 |
| robitaille | the wiki and web site both have a bunch of things you can do | 09:33 |
| robitaille | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/participate | 09:33 |
| robitaille | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TheUbuntuCommunity | 09:33 |
| zakame | hi all | 09:33 |
| robitaille | just pick whatever you are good at, or you want to do. | 09:33 |
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| zakame | wb Sepheebear | 09:35 |
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| ivoks | ptlo: hej hej! | 09:50 |
| ivoks | ptlo: join #ubuntu-hr | 09:51 |
| zakame | hmmm, are the debian package sources for apache2 available via VC? | 09:51 |
| ptlo | ivoks heya! :) | 09:52 |
| zakame | ah, its at svn.debian.org pala... | 09:52 |
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| Kyral | Nothing like a bit of anime to wake up with | 10:20 |
| crimsun | I'm encoding flacs, heh. | 10:21 |
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| siretart | morning | 10:26 |
| crimsun | morning | 10:27 |
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| pef | hello | 10:31 |
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| siretart | hi pef | 10:32 |
| pef | siretart: hi :) can I have revu2 trac url ? | 10:33 |
| siretart | pef: http://revu.tauware.de/trac | 10:36 |
| pef | thanks ! | 10:36 |
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| ivoks | \sh: ? | 10:39 |
| ivoks | \sh: i guess you are in montreal :) | 10:40 |
| \sh | yes | 10:40 |
| ivoks | \sh: go to bed :) | 10:40 |
| \sh | siretart lays in the other bed next to me | 10:40 |
| ivoks | siretart: you too?! :) | 10:40 |
| siretart | ivoks: we cannot sleep anymore | 10:40 |
| siretart | ivoks: I'm with \sh in the same room :) | 10:41 |
| ivoks | hehe | 10:41 |
| ivoks | i understand... time diff | 10:41 |
| ivoks | you have to acomodate | 10:41 |
| \sh | ivoks: i was awake 28h | 10:41 |
| \sh | ivoks: that means now I'm totally clear in my mind... | 10:41 |
| ivoks | :) | 10:42 |
| Kyral | Whats the temp in Montreal right now anyway? | 10:42 |
| Kyral | I need to know if I should wear my winter jacket or my hoodie ;P | 10:42 |
| === Kyral shrugs | ||
| crimsun | Kyral: wunderground. | 10:43 |
| Kyral | wazzat mean? | 10:43 |
| crimsun | the Web site | 10:43 |
| Kyral | ? | 10:44 |
| Kyral | which website | 10:44 |
| crimsun | wunderground.com | 10:44 |
| crimsun | http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/71627.html | 10:44 |
| Kyral | ah 3C! Thats quite warm! | 10:45 |
| Kyral | Hoodie it is :D | 10:45 |
| Kyral | I gotta go catch my ride, cya all at 9 :D (Now I just need to find someplace to get breakfast...) | 10:45 |
| crimsun | I just use the Weather Report panel applet | 10:46 |
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| ivoks | 3C? | 10:58 |
| ivoks | man, is it snowing? | 10:58 |
| ivoks | :) | 10:59 |
| ivoks | snowboarding comes to my mind :) | 10:59 |
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| _Tonio_ | hi | 11:40 |
| highvoltage | hi _Tonio_ | 11:41 |
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| \sh | moins highvoltage | 11:50 |
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| hub | hi | 12:24 |
| hub | anybody awake? | 12:24 |
| \sh | re | 12:24 |
| \sh | sure | 12:24 |
| Yagisan | yeah - what's up ? | 12:24 |
| hub | \sh: jetlagged? it always does that to me | 12:25 |
| hub | my alarm was at 7 but didn't take into account DST | 12:25 |
| hub | so now I'm really awake | 12:25 |
| \sh | hub: well...after 28 hours without sleep...and only a couple of hours of sleep including now the daylight saving change | 12:25 |
| \sh | we're feeling ok :) | 12:25 |
| \sh | I'm up for a big cup of coffee | 12:26 |
| hub | perhaps we should have a caffeination BOF | 12:26 |
| \sh | hehe...which room r u? | 12:26 |
| hub | \sh: I'm at home | 12:27 |
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| \sh | oh yeah..u live here, right? :) | 12:27 |
| hub | yep | 12:27 |
| \sh | hub: btw...http://photos.shermann.blogweb.de/main.php/v/ubz/ <- fresh hot pictures :) | 12:27 |
| hub | I didn't took pics yesterday | 12:28 |
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| \sh | lol | 12:29 |
| \sh | siretart is fun :) | 12:30 |
| hub | \sh: if I show up in 1/2 hour, are you up to a coffee BOF? | 12:34 |
| \sh | hub: sure :) | 12:34 |
| hub | the hardest part is to find my GF metro pass | 12:34 |
| hub | \sh: which room are you? | 12:35 |
| \sh | 714 | 12:36 |
| hub | ok | 12:36 |
| \sh | but I think we meet up downstairs in front of the hotel | 12:36 |
| hub | outside? | 12:37 |
| \sh | yeah...for a smoking bof ;) | 12:38 |
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| hub | \sh: ah ok. | 12:41 |
| hub | I'm almost ready to leave now | 12:41 |
| hub | see you then | 12:42 |
| \sh | cu later :) | 12:42 |
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| siretart | crimsun: you just commented on #3473? | 12:52 |
| siretart | crimsun: perhaps you want to take this bug then, assign it to you, okay? | 12:53 |
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| keyes | hello | 12:55 |
| keyes | siretart: hello | 12:55 |
| siretart | huhu keyes | 12:55 |
| Yagisan | keyes: how is your et package ? | 12:55 |
| keyes | Yagisan: same point | 12:56 |
| keyes | problem with sound | 12:56 |
| keyes | esddsp don't work with et | 12:56 |
| keyes | aoss works but very bad | 12:56 |
| siretart | et? as in enemy teritorry? | 12:56 |
| Yagisan | keyes: no ? (I only run it on amd64) | 12:56 |
| Yagisan | siretart: yes | 12:56 |
| keyes | siretart: yes | 12:56 |
| siretart | Yagisan: err, is it redistributable at all? | 12:56 |
| keyes | siretart: it seems opensource but I don't know | 12:57 |
| siretart | and after all, it's really huge package | 12:57 |
| siretart | keyes: opensource? et? haha! | 12:57 |
| Yagisan | siretart: let me just check the license | 12:57 |
| keyes | if it's redistruable | 12:57 |
| siretart | keyes: the engine is free, but not the media/data files | 12:58 |
| Yagisan | siretart: It has a lot of mirrors (260MB) | 12:58 |
| keyes | yes the engine | 12:58 |
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| siretart | some time ago | 12:58 |
| keyes | How can I do to run this command as root before playing in a package? (don't works with sudo) | 12:58 |
| Yagisan | siretart: yes, you can redistribute it, if you don't charge for it | 12:59 |
| siretart | keyes: what command? | 12:59 |
| keyes | echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss | 12:59 |
| siretart | bah, that should be fixed elsewhere, talk to crimsun | 01:00 |
| Yagisan | siretart, keyes: that command is only needed on sound cards without hardware mixing | 01:00 |
| siretart | okay, breakfast now, cu later | 01:00 |
| keyes | Yagisan: my sound card don't have hardware mixing ... | 01:00 |
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| crimsun | siretart: sure | 01:00 |
| crimsun | siretart: I uploaded a new wpasupplicant as well | 01:01 |
| Yagisan | keyes: Neither did my onboard | 01:01 |
| keyes | i've also tryed "killall esd && et && esd" but don't works ... | 01:01 |
| Yagisan | keyes: You got the list of libs needed (strings et.x86 | grep lib) ? | 01:01 |
| keyes | http://pastebin.com/410850 | 01:02 |
| keyes | I can make a rc.d script but ... I think this is a bad solution | 01:04 |
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| crimsun | keyes: cat /proc/asound/modules | 01:07 |
| keyes | 0 snd_via82xx | 01:08 |
| keyes | 1 snd_usb_audio | 01:08 |
| crimsun | so you're attempting the via82xx driver for et? | 01:08 |
| keyes | yes | 01:08 |
| crimsun | keyes: you should have a second pcm device for your via82xx | 01:12 |
| Yagisan | keyes: did "esdctl stop" help ? | 01:12 |
| keyes | $ esdctl stop | 01:12 |
| keyes | -1 | 01:12 |
| Yagisan | crimsun: et wants /dev/dsp all to itself | 01:12 |
| keyes | yes | 01:12 |
| Yagisan | crimsun: just like quake3 | 01:13 |
| crimsun | please test if unloading snd-pcm-oss then reloading it with ''sudo modprobe snd-pcm-oss dsp_map=1'' resolves the ET issue | 01:13 |
| keyes | don't solve anything | 01:14 |
| crimsun | I also need to know the precise /proc/asound/cards info, because it might well be a dxs_support issue | 01:14 |
| keyes | 0 [V8235 ] : VIA8233 - VIA 8235 | 01:15 |
| keyes | VIA 8235 with ALC655 at 0xe000, irq 22 | 01:15 |
| keyes | 1 [U0x46d0x8b3 ] : USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x8b3 | 01:15 |
| keyes | USB Device 0x46d:0x8b3 at usb-0000:00:10.2-2, full speed | 01:15 |
| crimsun | ah, the 655 | 01:15 |
| === crimsun checks | ||
| Yagisan | crimsum: I had the same problem with VIA 8237 with ALC658 | 01:17 |
| crimsun | ok, unload then reload snd-via82xx, passing the following dxs_support values in this order if the previous doesn't work: 1, 4, 2 | 01:17 |
| crimsun | Yagisan: the non-mixing issue is known and won't be fixed | 01:18 |
| keyes | crimsun: but i'm looking for a solution working on all configs for my package | 01:18 |
| crimsun | Yagisan: the sample rate problem has workarounds, but the myriad codecs and chipsets present problems | 01:18 |
| keyes | and the sound don't work by default on all configs | 01:18 |
| crimsun | keyes: your package should not be touching ALSA configs; that should be a bug in alsa-kernel/alsa-driver | 01:19 |
| keyes | crimsun: hum | 01:19 |
| keyes | it's bug in ET | 01:19 |
| keyes | i have read | 01:19 |
| crimsun | keyes: which bug? | 01:20 |
| crimsun | keyes: I thought you were referring to the sound quality problem | 01:20 |
| keyes | like quake3 et don't use alsa but OSS | 01:20 |
| keyes | and sound doesn't work without hack on systems using alsa | 01:20 |
| crimsun | well ttimo didn't develop an ALSA-native backend for those, true | 01:20 |
| crimsun | but et and q3a should still work using the OSS "emulation" | 01:21 |
| tseng | works for me | 01:21 |
| crimsun | if they don't work, that's a bug in ALSA | 01:21 |
| tseng | q3 less recently | 01:21 |
| tseng | et a few days ago | 01:21 |
| tseng | on breezy final | 01:22 |
| Yagisan | I need the work around with VIA 8237 with ALC658, but not with SBLive! Value [CT4832] | 01:23 |
| keyes | so i will make a packag with no sound and provide a link to active the sound ... | 01:23 |
| Yagisan | crimsun: Is the VIA 8237 incapable of mixing ? | 01:24 |
| crimsun | Yagisan: yes, and dxs_support=2 should disable it completely | 01:25 |
| crimsun | keep in mind that the mixing is craptastic | 01:25 |
| Yagisan | keyes: don't forget the LD_ASSUME_KERNEL | 01:25 |
| Yagisan | crimsun: OK, that means the $10au I spent on ebay for the sblive was well spent | 01:26 |
| crimsun | Yagisan: yes. The via82xx mixing can only be called such...barely. | 01:26 |
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| keyes | Yagisan: what about that? | 01:27 |
| Yagisan | keyes: et needs export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.2 to work on amd64 | 01:27 |
| Yagisan | keyes: I added it to the script right before the exec ./et.x86 | 01:28 |
| keyes | ok | 01:28 |
| keyes | will add it | 01:28 |
| Yagisan | keyes: when you need the package tested, ping me - I'm very interested | 01:29 |
| keyes | ok | 01:29 |
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| tseng | Lathiat: "Hence users could be able to run nearly all Zeroconf-enabled software for Unix on top of Avahi." < oh man | 02:21 |
| Lathiat | tseng: ? :) | 02:22 |
| tseng | cool stuff | 02:22 |
| Lathiat | :) | 02:22 |
| Lathiat | yup | 02:22 |
| Lathiat | 0.6 is looking good | 02:22 |
| Lathiat | we trashed the python utils and made them C too, so can suit some more smaller systems | 02:22 |
| tseng | nice | 02:23 |
| Lathiat | and fixed a network vulnerability :\ | 02:23 |
| tseng | my ideal goal is to have a little file server running daap all the time | 02:23 |
| === Lathiat nods | ||
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| Lathiat | you could do that with mt-daapd | 02:24 |
| tseng | ya | 02:24 |
| Lathiat | just turn off its internal thing and advertise it with a static service file :) | 02:24 |
| tseng | i dont have any clients yet, though | 02:24 |
| Lathiat | rb does it | 02:24 |
| Lathiat | and daap-sharp is looking good so banshee may soon | 02:24 |
| tseng | seb turned off avahi in rb package | 02:24 |
| Lathiat | yeh cus its still in universe | 02:25 |
| Lathiat | he filled out a main incl report for it | 02:25 |
| tseng | yes :) | 02:25 |
| Lathiat | welp, me -> bed :) | 02:27 |
| Lathiat | night | 02:27 |
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| siretart | re | 02:33 |
| hub | re | 02:34 |
| hub | funny irc over the lobby | 02:34 |
| === ivoks is so proud :) | ||
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| zakame | hello all | 02:41 |
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| ajmitch | morning all | 03:11 |
| zakame | hi ajmitch :D | 03:12 |
| Lathiat | night ajmitch ;p | 03:12 |
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| sivang | morning motus | 03:24 |
| ajmitch | hi | 03:24 |
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| zakame | hi sivang | 03:26 |
| \sh | sivang: got your book upstairs :) | 03:28 |
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| sivang | \sh: cool thanks :) | 03:29 |
| sivang | \sh: we'll meet over lunch , I hope | 03:29 |
| zakame | you all already in Montreal? | 03:29 |
| ajmitch | yep | 03:29 |
| ajmitch | ubuntu love day today | 03:29 |
| \sh | sivang: sure...i think i'm the only guy with blue glasses here | 03:30 |
| ajmitch | mm, merging... | 03:31 |
| === ajmitch knows \sh will love that ;) | ||
| Treenaks | ajmitch: raise your hand! | 03:33 |
| ajmitch | Treenaks: I'm sitting by azz who's talking.. | 03:34 |
| ivoks | :) | 03:34 |
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| Treenaks | ajmitch: azz? | 03:34 |
| ivoks | guys at ubz should leave to ubuntu-ubz | 03:34 |
| ajmitch | Treenaks: where are you? | 03:34 |
| ivoks | and leave other in agony :) | 03:34 |
| ajmitch | ivoks: nah :P | 03:34 |
| Treenaks | ajmitch: at the front | 03:34 |
| Treenaks | next to dholbach | 03:34 |
| ajmitch | :) | 03:35 |
| Treenaks | hi! :) | 03:35 |
| ajmitch | hi | 03:35 |
| \sh | hmm | 03:35 |
| \sh | just uploaded xterm 205 | 03:35 |
| \sh | ,) | 03:35 |
| ajmitch | uh oh :) | 03:35 |
| === ajmitch needs to do some uploads asap | ||
| ajmitch | fyi, ubz motus need to subscribe to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/motu-debian | 03:37 |
| \sh | ajmitch: done | 03:37 |
| ajmitch | thanks | 03:38 |
| ajmitch | basically the topic that they're talking about at the moment :) | 03:38 |
| ajmitch | except it's what we need to do to make life easier | 03:38 |
| zakame | ajmitch: yep, that'll be good | 03:42 |
| zakame | how about motu packages not yet available in debian? | 03:43 |
| ajmitch | that's another matter, working with the utnubu team if they want to maintain those in debian | 03:45 |
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| CaiN_SA | whah | 03:45 |
| zakame | ajmitch: ah | 03:46 |
| ajmitch | hello CaiN_SA | 03:46 |
| zakame | wb CaiN_SA | 03:47 |
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| ajmitch | wb ogra :) | 03:47 |
| zakame | wb ogra | 03:48 |
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| tseng | python, gcc | 06:28 |
| tseng | x | 06:28 |
| tseng | yes indeed | 06:28 |
| ajmitch | 632 at a quick count | 06:36 |
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| hub | hi all | 08:41 |
| hub | dholbach rocks 1 | 08:41 |
| hub | ! | 08:41 |
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| ajmitch | :) | 08:48 |
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| Akatemik | Hmm, is this the right place to ask about own ubuntu related dev-projects (ended up here from #ubuntu-devel's /topic)? | 10:47 |
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| \sh | Akatemik: yepp | 10:50 |
| Akatemik | Great. I was thinking of remastering an ubuntu-livecd for my own needs, biggest difference being a need to make it boot on multiple archs | 10:50 |
| \sh | Akatemik: u should talk about this project on -devel...-motu is just more packaging stuff.. | 10:51 |
| Akatemik | \sh: Hmm, ok | 10:51 |
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