=== luk_ [n=luk@162.15-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luk_ is now known as luk === blueyed [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [12:34] hub: you joining us for dinner today? === farruinn [n=nathan@cpe-69-201-0-214.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] there's dinner today? [12:44] hi folks [12:44] <\sh> good evening from montreal :) [12:44] <\sh> huhu siretart.. [12:45] ;) === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-119-210.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:54] Wouldn't it be nice to to have an openssh-server package that has the chroot patch applied? or to have the patch applied to the main package? (http://chrootssh.sourceforge.net/) [12:55] blueyed: I don't think kamion is going to be too hot to apply it [12:56] But it's a great feature and such a small patch. [12:57] crimsun: would it be synced from debian? [12:57] blueyed: "it"? [12:57] just ask kamion, since he's the Debian maintainer, too [12:58] crimsun: apt-cache shows matthew. [12:59] for ssh? [12:59] ah [12:59] ask kamion, then === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:05] hey guys [01:05] Stupid question [01:05] but does UBZ start tomarrow at 9 AM EST or EDT? [01:09] the former, I assume [01:10] Okay, time changes get confusing [01:10] the new extension doesn't begin until 2007 [01:10] It changes tonight [01:11] tomorrow. [01:11] 2 AM EDT->1 AM EST [01:11] for me, that is. [01:11] 2 AM on 10/30 === Kyral [n=Linux@hamlin-162-190.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:20] crimsun: I've never done this before, so let me make sure I'm doing what you want. You need the debdiff between the ubuntu 2.0.4 package and the 3.0.2 package I made, right? [01:21] yes [01:21] between the dscs [01:23] ok, I'll brb, I need to get to the ubuntu machine === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=Linux@hamlin-162-190.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Trash[impersonat [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Trash[impersonat [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === farruinn [n=nathan@cpe-69-201-14-55.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:37] farruinn: posted anywhere yet? [01:39] crimsun: sorry, like I said I've never done this. One second and I'll give you a link [01:47] crimsun: http://www2.potsdam.edu/sprang31/solfege2.0.4-3.0.2.debdiff [01:48] crimsun: thanks for bearing with me, I hope that's what you need [01:48] SUNY is on I2? [01:48] I2? [01:48] yes, it is [01:48] nearly all US universities are on I2 [01:49] farruinn, you go to SUNY right? [01:49] Kyral: yes [01:50] Your one of you IT people is married to President Collins, no? [01:51] I have no idea [01:52] (I take it that's the Clarkson president?) [01:52] Ja [01:52] oh wait... I work with a woman named Karen Collins, maybe her? [01:52] yah [01:52] Think so [01:53] what year are you? === minghua [n=minghua@adsl-69-153-128-173.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] should something happen after I send mail to submit@bugs.debian.org? [02:13] like the bug show up or something? :-P [02:14] eventually you'll get an ack [02:14] Nafallo: yes, but there's usually a delay [02:14] the cron job runs every 15 minutes [02:14] ah, thanx :-) [02:14] I thought I was stupid and can't even compile a good mail or something :-P === Nafallo just read DebianPatchFeeding and felt guilty :-P === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kaloz_ [n=kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral scratches his head at the Wiki Language [02:55] hmm === Nafallo gives debian some patches. maybe we can shrink the delta. === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-229-207-221.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tifa [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:24] \sh: hi! are you in Montreal yet? [02:25] \sh: morning darling :-) [02:25] <\sh> LaserJock: jepp [02:25] sweet [02:25] <\sh> Nafallo: morning honey..:) [02:26] I should print out directions... [02:26] \sh: I'm filing bugs on debian :-P [02:26] \sh: is the money situation working out ok? [02:26] <\sh> LaserJock: after an adventure flight [02:26] \sh: easier then I thought ;-) [02:26] Kyral: you'll be here in the morning then? [02:26] <\sh> LaserJock: well...actually ogra is helping out...but i will change my bank after i will come back from ubz [02:27] ajmitch, yah driving in from Potsdam NY === ajmitch just has the money problem of needing more of it ;) [02:27] I hope there is free food...... [02:27] ajmitch: don't we all? ;-) [02:27] <\sh> ajmitch: well...i'm really frustrated about this money shit... [02:28] Nafallo: drinking BOFs might get expensive by the end of the week :) [02:28] \sh: huh? something you haven't blogged about? [02:28] reminds me that I should track planet more closely ;) [02:29] ajmitch: ehm... what bird are you trying to make with those? :-P [02:29] <\sh> Nafallo: no...this is really a serious problem i have to solve first , and then i'll blog about [02:29] Nafallo: the drunken antics of UBZ? [02:29] \sh: ah. so what _is_ the issue (for those of us that can't wait for that) [02:29] ssh is a little lagged from here :( [02:29] ajmitch: :-) [02:30] <\sh> Nafallo: my bank is too slow..at least one or two days too slow [02:30] <\sh> Nafallo: normally the money should be on my account on friday..but this didn't happen === ajmitch hopes he gets paid next week [02:31] \sh: ouch. [02:31] <\sh> Nafallo: well..should be on my account on monday so i can pay everything back [02:32] let's hope :-). [02:33] hmm [02:33] it's apache-restart-day today, right? [02:34] ehm, I mean sunday [02:34] I guess there is a small delegation from Clarkson University and SUNY Potsdam going tomarrow ;P [02:34] Kyral: where small is you? ;-) [02:34] \sh: what problems did you have? [02:35] Actually is like 7 people from Clarkson (Check the Attendees list) and some people from SUNY [02:35] ajmitch: do you know how the list on UniversePackageWithoutDesktopFile is created? [02:35] <\sh> ajmitch: later...during drinking bof [02:35] Kyral: well. I'm lazy ;-). [02:35] lol [02:35] \sh: ok, I think I might skip the drinking BOF tonight though [02:35] LaserJock: nope :) [02:35] <\sh> ajmitch: oh ok...so tomorrow i'll explain everything [02:36] I'll have a navy blue shirt that says "Clarkson University Department of Mathematics and Computer Science" on it, happy ;P === ajmitch will be the one collapsed in a corner somewhere [02:37] lol [02:37] If I don't get caffine into me soon after I wake up I will be too [02:37] ajmitch: fixed my f-spot bug yet, btw? ;-) [02:37] Nafallo: nope [02:38] ajmitch: I imported the photos I've taken and now it crashes on startup ;-) [02:38] <\sh> ajmitch: come on...siretart and i are the ones with the bad jetlag :) [02:38] \sh: you know how long it took me to get to montreal :) === Nafallo loves using dapper :-) [02:40] it's really funny to fool jenny that I've upgraded her computer also ;-) [02:40] \sh: what's the plan with gajim's debian/ubuntu delta? [02:40] :-) === koke [n=koke@66.103.220.210] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] hey koke [02:43] at the hotel now, I guess? [02:43] <\sh> ajmitch: yeah :) but the best way to get over it, is to have some fun with the other tired guys :) [02:44] heh [02:44] Aww I feel left out. I'm just sitting here in my dorm room reading the Jargon File [02:44] :P [02:44] <\sh> Nafallo: well...leave it...we will have always a delta...just because of the "human" default theme for ubuntu [02:44] <\sh> Kyral: where r u? [02:44] ajmitch: yeah [02:44] Clarkson University [02:45] 2 1/2 hours away from Montreal [02:45] \sh: hehe, well. that's a small delta compared to now ;-) [02:45] koke: great, just arrived here? [02:45] <\sh> Kyral: oh... [02:45] \sh: I'm thinking on going directly to sleep now [02:45] <\sh> Nafallo: lets leave it ... we will have 0.9 coming in 2 months [02:45] ajmitch: yeah, this is weird. I got a suite [02:45] koke, youre here ?? [02:45] ogra: yes [02:45] koke: lucky you, want to swap? ;) [02:45] koke, the rooma are all this big ;) [02:45] <\sh> koke: hmmm....how long was your flight? === Kyral goes to shwoer [02:45] *rooms [02:45] \sh: hmm, that means we should roll 0.8.2+svn till then? ;-) [02:45] koke, cool :) [02:46] ogra: hi! :-) [02:46] Early wakeup time tomorrow ;P [02:46] koke: what room # ? [02:46] <\sh> Nafallo: somehow we could do this :) [02:46] Nafallo, hey [02:46] \sh:too much, 7h form london [02:46] 320 [02:46] \sh: extra testing etcetera :-) [02:46] <\sh> koke: oh come on...we had 8 hours flight, 10 hours stay in the plane [02:46] btw, is whiprush here? [02:46] he was planning to [02:46] ok, so you're down on the 3rd floor with some of the others.. [02:46] <\sh> koke: and 6 hours jetlag :) [02:46] dunno if he's already here === ajmitch is on 5th floor, 503 [02:46] <\sh> he's not coming [02:47] ogra: did we ever have a list of things that needs merging? :-) [02:47] \sh: 7 + 2 from madrid + 2 in train :) [02:47] he's not? :( [02:47] <\sh> ajmitch: no he mentioned it on his blog [02:47] what about some beer in the bar?? [02:47] koke: 3+12+2.5+4.5 for me :) [02:48] <\sh> koke: well...there is a problem...fabbione :) [02:48] \sh: what's the problem [02:48] <\sh> koke: he wants to go to super sexe [02:48] <\sh> koke: join #ubz [02:48] w00t? [02:48] Nafallo, we should get a lit from KEybuk soon, seems MOM could work for universe... since we didnt respect the freezes [02:49] *list [02:49] ogra: ah, oki :-) [02:49] I bug debian about stuff they should take before we can sync stuff atm :-) [02:50] no promises though [02:50] but I only knew two packages by heart :-P === Nafallo gave gazpacho a grave-bug ;-) [02:51] +patch :-P === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] anyway, 2:50 here or something. [02:52] I should sleep [02:52] gnight all [02:52] night Nafallo [03:02] I'm so nervous about tomorrow [03:03] why? [03:04] I'm afraid I'm gonna make on idiot of myself [03:04] don't worry [03:04] we all do that [03:05] Yah, but it seems to happen a LOT more often with me [03:06] heh [03:07] may i ask a question about ubuntu development? [03:07] packages from debian are syced automatically to universe or motus do it manually? [03:12] automatic until upstream version freeze, if we haven't previously modified it in ubuntu [03:12] pietrus: Unless the ubuntu package has any changes it happens automatically at the start of a development cycle. === TiMiDo [n=deb@unaffiliated/timido] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:17] ey people [03:17] hi === Treenaks is in the hostel, about to go to sleep === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:02] goodnight all and cya at UBZ tomorrow :D [04:10] hi all [04:10] <_Tonio_> hi [04:11] is there a policy from ubuntu or debian about packaging www servers? if so, where can I find it? [04:12] <_Tonio_> what do you mean by "packaging www.servers?" ? [04:13] <_Tonio_> there is one for debian, I think ubuntu's one's the same.... [04:13] <_Tonio_> let me check if I have the link here..... [04:13] I'm packaging lighttpd atm, and I want to know what to do during the {post,pre}{inst,rm} scripts [04:14] I'd also like to know if what stuff a www server can put in /var/www [04:15] <_Tonio_> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ [04:15] <_Tonio_> you might find what you're search for there... but good luck for the reading. [04:15] okies thanks :D [04:15] <_Tonio_> I must say I don't have a simple answer to your question. [04:15] <_Tonio_> zakame: no pb === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Psylon [n=kirt@c-67-185-29-20.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@ip101109.101.nas.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pietrus [n=pietro@dsl027-180-120.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:37] hmmm, would it be feasible to split lighttpd into lighttpd and liblighttpd-mod-* like what apache2 does? [04:38] zakame: yeh [04:38] proably a good idea if lighttpd supports it === zul [n=chuck@66.103.220.245] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:43] Mithrandir: I did :-). === susus [n=sz@p5089CD85.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:44] Lathiat: you mean the modular configuration? [04:45] zakame: i havent used it, but more, whether you can compile in modules and not have them loaded at runtime, etc [04:47] Lathiat: yes, lighttpd can do that :) My only gripe is that its configuration syntax is a bit confusing... [04:47] ... but its like Perl, so, it ought to be just normal :) === minghua [n=minghua@adsl-69-153-128-173.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:55] Lathiat: thanks! :D [05:31] do I have to export and send the signed key ? [05:45] hub, just print the fingerprint and key id several times [05:46] ogra: I have business card with key ID [05:46] ogra: so that's ok. but I was wondering after doing a --sign-key if I had to send it to its owner [05:46] then you need the fingerprint only... i'm not sure if anybody planned a keysigning party [05:46] ogra: are you in Mtl? [05:46] ye [05:46] s [05:46] ah [05:47] I come back from the dinner with the ubuntu guys [05:47] else i wouldnt be awake at this horrible time ;) [05:47] I'm home now [05:47] and out of beer:-( [05:47] ogra, it's not even midnight, is it? [05:47] oh, we just had a drinking BOF [05:48] tritium, its 6:47am in my home TZ :) [05:48] tritium: it is almost 1 [05:48] ogra: yeah I read that with \sh [05:48] ogra, fair enough. DST ends tonight... [05:48] yup [05:48] I crossed Daniel Silverstone and we exchange keys and picture IDs [05:48] ah, didnt see him around yet [05:48] and the wiki page say " Sign the key of the person you've just met. Send him/her the key you've just signed." [05:48] he wasnt at dinner with us [05:48] so I was wondering [05:49] ogra: nor with us [05:49] yes, send it to him... he has to upload it [05:49] ok. [05:49] dont upload it yourself, he needs to confirm [05:49] so leave it in his hands [05:49] first time I sign keys :-) [05:49] make sense. just wanted to make sure === lsald [n=james@ppp-69-223-156-170.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:53] 46KB for an armored key? [05:53] wow [05:55] dsilvers ? [05:55] yes, he's got quite some signs already :) [05:59] ogra: dsilvers [05:59] yup [06:00] I just printed a newer stack of cards [06:00] heh [06:01] I threw away 300 cards last week, they became useless [06:01] ok, i'm off to bed now, got a talk tomorrow... and if i'm not attending sabdfls talk at 9am i risk my job ;) [06:04] okay [06:04] see you there [06:06] anyone taking notes or recording the talks? [06:11] taking notes probably a lot of people [06:11] I'll surely take pictures === blueyed_ [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === __maydayjay__ [n=maydayja@ip101109.101.nas.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jimbob [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === markuman [n=supermar@p50927190.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dereks [n=derek@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dereks [n=derek@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === green-mouse [n=green-mo@CBL217-132-88-211.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dereks [n=derek@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dereks [n=derek@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:10] morning === dereks [n=derek@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:37] hi all === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sedak [n=fred@home.nenya.info] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TiMiDo [n=deb@unaffiliated/timido] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:24] hey anyone here? [09:25] nope :) [09:25] oh thnx [09:25] hey how do i join a Team? [09:25] on launchpad [09:25] which team? [09:26] UbuntuCoreDevelopmentTea [09:26] m === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:26] uh :) [09:26] thath #ubuntu-devel [09:26] you have to become member first [09:27] then motu [09:27] how do i become a member? [09:27] then you'll get a chance to become main developer [09:27] oh ic, [09:27] so how do i become a member ivoks? [09:27] http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember [09:27] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/newmember [09:27] oh :) [09:28] and yes i been to the meetings also =) [09:28] my mouse is faster than yours ivoks :) [09:28] so i have to send the gpg key to Benjamin Mako Hill [09:28] ? [09:29] robitaille: i don't have mouse :) [09:29] TiMiDo: it's very simple [09:29] is it? [09:29] TiMiDo: you have to do something for community [09:29] like what? [09:29] then go to CC meeting and become mebmer [09:30] then sign CoC with your trusted gpg key [09:30] then do some help for motu [09:30] and become motu [09:30] what can i do for the community?? [09:30] then work hard every day to maybe get a chance for main developer [09:30] TiMiDo: whatever [09:30] like writting a document? [09:31] whatever you think is good for community [09:31] ok, === TiMiDo is thinking [09:31] CC will decide if that good enough [09:31] who's cc? [09:32] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/newmember [09:32] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/newmember [09:32] sorry for double paste :/ [09:33] the wiki and web site both have a bunch of things you can do [09:33] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/participate [09:33] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TheUbuntuCommunity [09:33] hi all [09:33] just pick whatever you are good at, or you want to do. === Sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-57-11.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:35] wb Sepheebear === TiMiDo [n=deb@unaffiliated/timido] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-18-54.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:50] ptlo: hej hej! [09:51] ptlo: join #ubuntu-hr [09:51] hmmm, are the debian package sources for apache2 available via VC? [09:52] ivoks heya! :) [09:52] ah, its at svn.debian.org pala... === Kyral stretches and yawns [10:20] Nothing like a bit of anime to wake up with [10:21] I'm encoding flacs, heh. === dereks [n=derek@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:26] morning [10:27] morning === MasterC [n=chans@dslb-084-060-208-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487D292.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:31] hello === dereks [n=derek@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:32] hi pef [10:33] siretart: hi :) can I have revu2 trac url ? [10:36] pef: http://revu.tauware.de/trac [10:36] thanks ! === dereks [n=derek@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:39] \sh: ? [10:40] \sh: i guess you are in montreal :) [10:40] <\sh> yes [10:40] \sh: go to bed :) [10:40] <\sh> siretart lays in the other bed next to me [10:40] siretart: you too?! :) [10:40] ivoks: we cannot sleep anymore [10:41] ivoks: I'm with \sh in the same room :) [10:41] hehe [10:41] i understand... time diff [10:41] you have to acomodate [10:41] <\sh> ivoks: i was awake 28h [10:41] <\sh> ivoks: that means now I'm totally clear in my mind... [10:42] :) [10:42] Whats the temp in Montreal right now anyway? [10:42] I need to know if I should wear my winter jacket or my hoodie ;P === Kyral shrugs [10:43] Kyral: wunderground. [10:43] wazzat mean? [10:43] the Web site [10:44] ? [10:44] which website [10:44] wunderground.com [10:44] http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/71627.html [10:45] ah 3C! Thats quite warm! [10:45] Hoodie it is :D [10:45] I gotta go catch my ride, cya all at 9 :D (Now I just need to find someplace to get breakfast...) [10:46] I just use the Weather Report panel applet === dereks [n=derek@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d061060.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=chris@p5487C496.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dereks [n=derek@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.247] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:58] 3C? [10:58] man, is it snowing? [10:59] :) [10:59] snowboarding comes to my mind :) === dereks [n=derek@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dereks [n=derek@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dereks [n=derek@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-79-217-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:40] <_Tonio_> hi [11:41] hi _Tonio_ === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:50] <\sh> moins highvoltage === dereks [n=derek@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dereks [n=derek@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MasterC [n=chans@dslb-084-060-203-002.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] hi [12:24] anybody awake? [12:24] <\sh> re [12:24] <\sh> sure [12:24] yeah - what's up ? [12:25] \sh: jetlagged? it always does that to me [12:25] my alarm was at 7 but didn't take into account DST [12:25] so now I'm really awake [12:25] <\sh> hub: well...after 28 hours without sleep...and only a couple of hours of sleep including now the daylight saving change [12:25] <\sh> we're feeling ok :) [12:26] <\sh> I'm up for a big cup of coffee [12:26] perhaps we should have a caffeination BOF [12:26] <\sh> hehe...which room r u? [12:27] \sh: I'm at home === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:27] <\sh> oh yeah..u live here, right? :) [12:27] yep [12:27] <\sh> hub: btw...http://photos.shermann.blogweb.de/main.php/v/ubz/ <- fresh hot pictures :) [12:28] I didn't took pics yesterday === ryu is now known as ryu|essen [12:29] <\sh> lol [12:30] <\sh> siretart is fun :) [12:34] \sh: if I show up in 1/2 hour, are you up to a coffee BOF? [12:34] <\sh> hub: sure :) [12:34] the hardest part is to find my GF metro pass [12:35] \sh: which room are you? [12:36] <\sh> 714 [12:36] ok [12:36] <\sh> but I think we meet up downstairs in front of the hotel [12:37] outside? [12:38] <\sh> yeah...for a smoking bof ;) === ryu|essen is now known as ryu [12:41] \sh: ah ok. [12:41] I'm almost ready to leave now [12:42] see you then [12:42] <\sh> cu later :) === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@mobileweb04.london.02.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:52] crimsun: you just commented on #3473? [12:53] crimsun: perhaps you want to take this bug then, assign it to you, okay? === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === keyes [n=keyes@lns-bzn-30-82-253-160-21.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] hello [12:55] siretart: hello [12:55] huhu keyes [12:55] keyes: how is your et package ? [12:56] Yagisan: same point [12:56] problem with sound [12:56] esddsp don't work with et [12:56] aoss works but very bad [12:56] et? as in enemy teritorry? [12:56] keyes: no ? (I only run it on amd64) [12:56] siretart: yes [12:56] siretart: yes [12:56] Yagisan: err, is it redistributable at all? [12:57] siretart: it seems opensource but I don't know [12:57] and after all, it's really huge package [12:57] keyes: opensource? et? haha! [12:57] siretart: let me just check the license [12:57] if it's redistruable [12:58] keyes: the engine is free, but not the media/data files [12:58] siretart: It has a lot of mirrors (260MB) [12:58] yes the engine === siretart started some work on "et-package" inspired by java-package [12:58] some time ago [12:58] How can I do to run this command as root before playing in a package? (don't works with sudo) [12:59] siretart: yes, you can redistribute it, if you don't charge for it [12:59] keyes: what command? [12:59] echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss [01:00] bah, that should be fixed elsewhere, talk to crimsun [01:00] siretart, keyes: that command is only needed on sound cards without hardware mixing [01:00] okay, breakfast now, cu later [01:00] Yagisan: my sound card don't have hardware mixing ... === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:00] siretart: sure [01:01] siretart: I uploaded a new wpasupplicant as well [01:01] keyes: Neither did my onboard [01:01] i've also tryed "killall esd && et && esd" but don't works ... [01:01] keyes: You got the list of libs needed (strings et.x86 | grep lib) ? [01:02] http://pastebin.com/410850 [01:04] I can make a rc.d script but ... I think this is a bad solution === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-127-247.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:07] keyes: cat /proc/asound/modules [01:08] 0 snd_via82xx [01:08] 1 snd_usb_audio [01:08] so you're attempting the via82xx driver for et? [01:08] yes [01:12] keyes: you should have a second pcm device for your via82xx [01:12] keyes: did "esdctl stop" help ? [01:12] $ esdctl stop [01:12] -1 [01:12] crimsun: et wants /dev/dsp all to itself [01:12] yes [01:13] crimsun: just like quake3 [01:13] please test if unloading snd-pcm-oss then reloading it with ''sudo modprobe snd-pcm-oss dsp_map=1'' resolves the ET issue [01:14] don't solve anything [01:14] I also need to know the precise /proc/asound/cards info, because it might well be a dxs_support issue [01:15] 0 [V8235 ] : VIA8233 - VIA 8235 [01:15] VIA 8235 with ALC655 at 0xe000, irq 22 [01:15] 1 [U0x46d0x8b3 ] : USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x8b3 [01:15] USB Device 0x46d:0x8b3 at usb-0000:00:10.2-2, full speed [01:15] ah, the 655 === crimsun checks [01:17] crimsum: I had the same problem with VIA 8237 with ALC658 [01:17] ok, unload then reload snd-via82xx, passing the following dxs_support values in this order if the previous doesn't work: 1, 4, 2 [01:18] Yagisan: the non-mixing issue is known and won't be fixed [01:18] crimsun: but i'm looking for a solution working on all configs for my package [01:18] Yagisan: the sample rate problem has workarounds, but the myriad codecs and chipsets present problems [01:18] and the sound don't work by default on all configs [01:19] keyes: your package should not be touching ALSA configs; that should be a bug in alsa-kernel/alsa-driver [01:19] crimsun: hum [01:19] it's bug in ET [01:19]