[12:00] <HappyFool> DrZeus: check for yourself on packages.ubuntu.com
[12:00] <dwt> Ropechoborra: well, that I cannot sset a users right to administer a machine
[12:00] <HappyFool> DrZeus: i suggest you compare /etc/apt/sources.list with http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[12:01] <dwt> anto9us: well, its already the second time
[12:01] <DrZeus> HappyFool, let me check
[12:01] <dwt> anto9us: is there an easy way to preserve the home directory during a reinstall
[12:01] <anto9us> dwt, you enabled root with expert setup each time?
[12:01] <xulin> hi !
[12:01] <dwt> only on the second try
[12:02] <xulin> is there any mirror with firefox 1.5b2 for breezy :o ?
[12:02] <Seveas> no
[12:02] <anto9us> dwt, yes, partitioner will allow you to set mount point of your /home without formatting the partition
[12:02] <Ropechoborra> dwt Well... dont have more solutions that what i gave to you... Try to re-install, dont put the root passwd, then with the new user type "sudo password root", it will ask for your password and then the new root passwd... and ready, the Root is active.-
[12:02] <anto9us> dwt, you don't want to enable the root, you can do that later if necessary
[12:03] <jaggedpulse>  so i have totem movie player on here and when i try to open a dvd it says, "
 "totem could not play 'dvd://'.
 error involving "dvdnav_get_next_block"; Error reading NAV packet
 and i've tried different DVDs
 any idea what this is?
[12:03] <dwt> well, I don't want to enable root at all, I just want a working sudo...
[12:03] <dwt> If sudo again doesn't work - how do I enable root then?
[12:03] <Shadowline> What directory doe's apt downlaod packages to ?
[12:03] <HappyFool> dwt: boot in recovery mode and run 'passwd'
[12:03] <Ropechoborra> anto9us how do i make this user (the one in the admin group) to have sudo access at graphic mode
[12:04] <dwt> HappyFool: recovery is always the root user?
[12:04] <anto9us> dwt, it should work, leave expert setup alone, you don't need it for custom partitioning
[12:04] <HappyFool> dwt: imo, if, after a normal install, your first user is not a member of the 'admin' group, then there was an error in the install, or you have uncovered a bug
[12:04] <dabaR> Shadowline: /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:04] <HappyFool> dwt: indeed, recovery runs as root
[12:04] <dwt> HappyFool: thanks!
[12:05] <dwt> HappyFool: I don't even have a group called admin on my system...
[12:05] <anto9us> Ropechoborra, System | Administration | Users and Groups - select user, properties, user privilages
[12:05] <Shadowline> dadaR: thxs
[12:05] <dabaR> Ropechoborra: all users in admin can sudo, even in graphical mode.
[12:06] <HappyFool> dwt: it sounds like the install is broken
[12:06] <HappyFool> dwt: this is ubuntu 5.10, 'normal' edition? (i.e., not 'server edition')
[12:06] <dwt> HappyFool: yes normal
[12:06] <Ropechoborra> dabaR but i cant access to some files that root can
[12:06] <jaggedpulse>  so i have totem movie player on here and when i try to open a dvd it says, "
 "totem could not play 'dvd://'.
 error involving "dvdnav_get_next_block"; Error reading NAV packet
 and i've tried different DVDs
 any idea what this is?
[12:07] <anto9us> Ropechoborra, you can sudo nautilus
[12:07] <HappyFool> jaggedpulse: it looks like no-one knows. please stop pasting over and over
[12:07] <anto9us> Ropechoborra, use with great care though
[12:07] <HappyFool> dwt: i stick with a 'broken install' diagnosis
[12:08] <hawking> how can i extract a bz2 archive?
[12:08] <jesse_> jaggedpulse: sounds like a corrupt dvd, or perhaps youre missing the required libs for dvd menus
[12:08] <Ropechoborra> Ok where do i got to go to open it?
[12:08] <dabaR> hawking: is it .tar.bz2?
[12:08] <HappyFool> hawking: bunzip2 filename.bz2
[12:08] <anto9us> hawking, bunzip2
[12:08] <flogiston> I have problems running alsaconf.
[12:08] <NetDreamz> ubuntu is debian based correct?
[12:08] <Seveas> grmbl, you're gone for 5 seconds and they start flooding...
[12:08] <Seveas> NetDreamz, yes
[12:08] <thrush> jaggedpulse: better luck with vlc prob
[12:08] <dwt> HappyFool: Yeah I see it the same way
[12:08] <anto9us> Ropechoborra, type it in a terminal window
[12:09] <dwt> HappyFool: anto9us: Well, I'm going to try a reinstall and come back here to report on the problem if it crops up again
[12:09] <hawking> THANK YOU!
[12:09] <NetDreamz> so If i added a debian repository to my list, and used synaptik to install something in theory it will be compatible with breezy?
[12:09] <dwt> Thanks to all of you for your great help in the meantime!
[12:09] <Seveas> NetDreamz, no
[12:09] <electron> I need some help, I just installed my printer and I want to make it a network printer, what do I have to do?
[12:09] <dabaR> NetDreamz: no, ther is no guarantee for that.
[12:09] <Seveas> use ubuntu repositories
[12:09] <electron> do I have to apt-get install cups? or is it already installed
[12:09] <Seveas> ubuntu has almost all that is in debian and more
[12:10] <NetDreamz> ok, I'm trying to get VHCS installed
[12:10] <Seveas> !info vhcs
[12:10] <DrZeus> HappyFool, now is working; thnx
[12:10] <erisco> is it possible to take a program's files and put it back into an install file as a .exe?
[12:10] <sorush20> how do I find where limewire is installed on my computer.?
[12:10] <HappyFool> DrZeus: good stuff
[12:10] <erisco> (this would be a more windows thing)
[12:10] <Seveas> is that the package name NetDreamz ?
[12:10] <NetDreamz> I believe so
[12:10] <noirequus> erisco: you'll need your install disk
[12:11] <NetDreamz> I searched synaptik for VHCS and it was in there
[12:11] <HappyFool> erisco: i think you use installshield for that
[12:11] <NetDreamz> after I added a debian repository
[12:11] <NetDreamz> deb http://apt.scunc.it/ sarge main
[12:11] <Seveas> NetDreamz, is that in debian or in a 3rd party debian repository?
[12:11] <dabaR> NetDreamz: remove it better.
[12:11] <HappyFool> noirequus: nice nick :P
[12:11] <Seveas> ah - 3rd party....
[12:11] <erisco> i have all the files, i need to put them back into an install so i can target it with cedega
[12:11] <NetDreamz> is that bad?
[12:11] <thrush> NetDreamz: or suffer you will
[12:11] <noirequus> HappyFool: erisco wants to intall photoshop in wine, w/o the original installer i think he's out of luck
[12:11] <towsonu2003> repeating as usual (last, I promise), don't kick me :) : it seems i have a problem with my kern.log (it's empty!). how o diagnose and fix it? any ideas?? thanks in advance... background: on boot time, "initializing kernel log" fails...
[12:11] <ProN00b> is adding debian repos safe ?
[12:11] <Seveas> NetDreamz, they probably won't work
[12:11] <Seveas> ProN00b, no
[12:12] <ProN00b> xD
[12:12] <erisco> okay, and there is no way to boot photoshop from the windows computer?
[12:12] <jareth_> hello all
[12:12] <erisco> or wait!
[12:12] <HappyFool> noirequus: i would agree; the files could be all over the place, not to mention registry settings
[12:12] <erisco> could i remote desktop?
[12:13] <highvoltage> !paste
[12:13] <ubotu> paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:13] <anto9us> erisco, yes, ubuntu comes with an RDP client
[12:13] <erisco> wicked! so i could just remote desktop into the windows box, use photoshop, then just transfer images to ubuntu
[12:13] <jareth_> after installing gtk-pod, gnu-pod and hfs-tools I found out that my iPod actually is PnP!!! :)
[12:13] <anto9us> erisco, or use gimp :)
[12:14] <erisco> problem, my samba does not work, everything appears to be configured properly
[12:14] <erisco> anto, please never say that again
[12:14] <noirequus> erisco: dont fly off the handle, now. gimp works fine in ubuntu
[12:14] <dabaR> haha
[12:15] <jareth_> and now i go off to bed :)
[12:15] <erisco> noirequus, please don't say that, you know better
[12:15] <dabaR> see ya
[12:15] <rohal> how should i remove enlightenment from my system??
[12:15] <dabaR> rohal: seriously, what ind of question is that?
[12:16] <jesse_> rohal: ap-get remove enlightenment
[12:16] <jesse_> apt*
[12:16] <dabaR> ah...my eyes are not good
[12:16] <erisco> alright what is the remote desktop program?
[12:16] <dabaR> rohal: sorry
[12:16] <electron> Whats the official Ubuntu irc server?
[12:16] <rohal> jesse_: its not doing ...i want to remove everything installed for enlightenment
[12:16] <dabaR> electron: this one.
[12:16] <erisco> it wont require samba to be working will it?
[12:16] <rohal> jesse_: libs & all
[12:16] <Toccy> Does anyone know where to get these packages: libsdl-image1.2 and libsdl-mixer1.2
[12:16] <Toccy> I need a download link
[12:16] <Toccy> Not ap-get
[12:16] <dabaR> rohal: how did you install it?
[12:16] <jesse_> rohal: my only advice then is to search through synaptic
[12:17] <flogiston> when i try to run alsaconf it says that it not exist.
[12:17] <jesse_> rohal: and remove everything you see
[12:17] <anto9us> erisco, Applications | Internet | Terminal Server Client, no samba required
[12:17] <rohal> dabaR: i just did apt-get install enlightenment
[12:17] <erisco> hehehe, i have no clue of how to fill in any of those fields
[12:17] <jesse_> rohal: if thats all you did, then removing enlightenment using "remove" should suffice
[12:17] <plumpkin> anyone willing to help me get my wireless card working? getting frustrated here, been beating my head against this for a while with little success
[12:18] <anto9us> erisco, they're menus
[12:18] <dabaR> rohal: do a apt-cache show enlightenment, and it will show you what it had installed.
[12:18] <erisco> terminal server client will not require samba will it?
[12:18] <flogiston> Is there an other way to set up alsa then using alsaconf?
[12:18] <anto9us> erisco, no
[12:18] <dabaR> rohal: or rather, waht the dependencies are...
[12:18] <jesse_> rohal: should only have enlightenment and enlightenment-data installed
[12:18] <erisco> when it says Computer: is this the IP?
[12:18] <jesse_> rohal: if i remember correctly
[12:18] <Toccy> !info libsdl-image1.2
[12:18] <ubotu> libsdl-image1.2: (image loading library for Simple DirectMedia Layer 1.2), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.2.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 25 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[12:18] <erisco> it is a little vague
[12:18] <anto9us> erisco, yes, and select RDP protocol
[12:19] <Toccy> !info libsdl-mixer1.2
[12:19] <ubotu> libsdl-mixer1.2: (mixer library for Simple DirectMedia Layer 1.2), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.2.6-1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 128 kB, Installed size: 332 kB
[12:19] <dabaR> Toccy: packages.ubuntu.com?
[12:19] <erisco> password, okay i hae no clue which password it wants
[12:19] <Toccy> Okay
[12:19] <erisco> nevermind i do
[12:19] <electron> Whats the official Ubuntu irc server?
[12:19] <anto9us> erisco, you set that when you share you desktop from windows
[12:19] <dabaR> this one
[12:19] <matthew_w> I love you all.
[12:19] <dabaR> electron: this is the official ubuntu irc server. irc.freenode.net
[12:19] <erisco> protocol file, what is this?
[12:19] <BeGu> http://tinyurl.com/9eqma I'm trying to get that stupid corner XMMS requirements (pyxmms 2.06, gdesklets 0.35, xmms) have met... but still it won't work in my hoary hedgehog... can someone tell me if this is only for kubuntu or breezy badger? or any other ideas?
[12:20] <hkais> hi
[12:20] <jesse_> hihi
[12:20] <fmasi> helo i like to know how to fix the problem whith pppoeconf that every time brezyy restart i nead to do a new pppoeconf becouse pon dont whork :(
[12:20] <Fructose> Is the default Totem installation in Ubuntu supposed to support QuickTime files?
[12:20] <hkais> does anybody knows what the password ist for my webmin under breezy?
[12:20] <erisco> what does it mean by protocol file:
[12:20] <jesse_> rohal: did that help at all?
[12:20] <erisco> is it important?
[12:21] <dabaR> fmasi: I know how to fix that. post your /etc/network/interfaces to the pastebin.
[12:21] <anto9us> hkais, uninstall webmin - sudo passwd - reinstall webmin
[12:21] <rohal> jesse_: yea a little bit....i am still confused whether i have removed everything or not...
[12:21] <rohal> jesse_: actually i want to install e17......
[12:21] <dude> hello
[12:21] <dabaR> fmasi: I also like to know how to fix the problem with that, btw.
[12:22] <jesse_> rohal: are you installing from a repository or compiling by hand?
[12:22] <pizux> how to know his ip adress?
[12:22] <fmasi> dabaR what is pastbin ?
[12:22] <rohal> jesse_: repository ofcource...i am not a geek to fix those errors during compilation...
[12:22] <redguy> electron: what dou you mean by a network printer? you want to share it to windows machines?
[12:22] <dabaR> fmasi: do you know how to check your private messages? there is one from ubotu for you.
[12:22] <anto9us> hkais, may require you to completely remove webmin, synaptic will do that easily for you
[12:22] <Dipper> evening all
[12:22] <electron> redguy yes
[12:22] <jesse_> rohal: did you use this guide? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155
[12:23] <fmasi> dabaR sorry dident see
[12:23] <dabaR> pizux: whose IP address?
[12:23] <redguy> electron: how did you set up the printer?
[12:23] <electron> redguy, I just installed gtklp, it's a gtk frontend for cups
[12:23] <electron> but I doesn't seem correct
[12:23] <erisco> um...
[12:23] <erisco> i hit connect with the terminal thingie... nothing happened... it just closed
[12:23] <Dipper> Just wondered if someone could help me use cpu frequency scaling
[12:24] <rohal> i referred to this one http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216
[12:24] <erisco> what does this mean?
[12:24] <redguy> electron: why do you think so? can you print?
[12:25] <jesse_> rohal: are you on warty?
[12:25] <anto9us> erisco, do you have a firewall on your windows machine? are you allowing port 3389?
[12:25] <dabaR> fmasi: did you see now?
[12:25] <erisco> i have a firewall on this machine and the other machine
[12:25] <rohal> jesse_: warty means??
[12:25] <electron> redguy, well I don't know how to set it up
[12:25] <erisco> will the firewall on this machine matter?
[12:25] <jesse_> rohal: your version of ubuntu ... 4.10, 5.04, or 5.10?
[12:26] <rohal> 5.04
[12:26] <fmasi> dabaR yes i a few minut i will past it thx
[12:26] <Dipper> I'm using a P4M and am told that "You will not be able to modify the frequency of your machine."
[12:26] <rohal>  jesse_: any idea about this error     http://soulmachine.net unstable/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9BC95B8B5CF6984C
[12:26] <anto9us> erisco, set windows machine to allow incoming 3389 connections, firewall on linux machine shouldn't block the outgoing connection
[12:26] <jesse_> rohal: yeah, you just need to get the key
[12:26] <jesse_> rohal: in my link, it tells how to get and load the key
[12:27] <DrZeus> Im out fellas; later
[12:27] <DrZeus> Gby
[12:27] <redguy> electron: why can't you set it up by GNOME CUPS manager (System > Administration > Printing) ??
[12:27] <dabaR> cya
[12:27] <rohal> jesse_: k got it ...thanks a lot
[12:28] <pizux> dabaR, my ip aress
[12:28] <jesse_> rohal: cool, do you need any further help with removing/installing e17? or are you good?
[12:28] <dabaR> pizux: ifocnfig in a terminal, or I think System>Admin>Networking in the gui.
[12:28] <rohal> jesse_: no idea.....but nothing more for now.....:)
[12:28] <electron> redguy, thats how I installed the printer, now how do I set it to be on the network in there?
[12:28] <dabaR> pizux: *ifconfig
[12:28] <jesse_> rohal: ok, well hit me up if need anything e17 related
[12:29] <Tristan9669> hey ppl
[12:29] <redguy> electron: ok, so you can print from the machine you have the printer installed, right?
[12:29] <electron> I'll check
[12:30] <rohal> k thanks again
[12:30] <electron> yep
[12:30] <electron> :)
[12:30] <Tristan9669> anyone know how I can delete stuff without being login root
[12:30] <dabaR> is it roots stuff?
[12:30] <Tristan9669> do just firefox stuff
[12:30] <Serenity> hi
[12:30] <Tristan9669> no*
[12:31] <hkais> anto9us: thx
[12:31] <electron> redguy, yes, I can print from the server
[12:31] <dabaR> Tristan9669: in what folder?
[12:31] <Tristan9669> urs/lib
[12:31] <dabaR> Tristan9669: you can do it using sudo in front of the command you want to run as root.
[12:31] <erisco> okay the exception was made
[12:32] <sizzam> anyone know how to enable 3d acceleration in vmware
[12:32] <Serenity> I got Gnomad, and grabbed all my mp3s onto my box. But I can't play them in Rhythmbox.
[12:32] <Tristan9669> ok
[12:32] <erisco> what is meant to happen? i clicked connect again...
[12:32] <Serenity> I won't let me import them into the library.
[12:32] <thrush> Tristan9669: from term type sudo nautilus & , or just delete in term
[12:32] <Merturk_NB> how long does it usually take for an email to the user's mailing group usually take to post?
[12:32] <erisco> this time the window didn't close
[12:32] <anto9us> hkais, if you're going to use the samba module you'll need to configure the module manually, most of what it nees pointing at is in /usr/bin/
[12:32] <Merturk_NB> I emailed it in this morning
[12:32] <redguy> electron: You should install samba then. Samba allows to share files and printers with windows machines
[12:32] <dabaR> Serenity: do you have mp3 suport installled?
[12:32] <dabaR> Merturk_NB: right away.
[12:33] <anto9us> hkais, or /etc/samba
[12:33] <Serenity> I haven't installed any.
[12:33] <Serenity> I need to?
[12:33] <erisco> okay i tried again and the window closed
[12:33] <Merturk_NB> dabaR, will I see my own posts?
[12:33] <Tristan9669> so i would type sudo delete filename.png
[12:33] <dabaR> Serenity: likely to be able to play mp3s
[12:33] <erisco> what is going on?
[12:33] <anto9us> erisco, can you ping your windows machine?
[12:33] <Serenity> Ok. Where?
[12:33] <Dipper> Can anyone help me set up cpu frequency scaling?
[12:33] <twysted> im having a problem compiling on my ubunutu server install it goes nuts when it tries to compile or it just errors out what packages do i need to install? ive tried installing the build-essential but it doesnt help
[12:33] <dabaR> Serenity: ask the bot about mp3
[12:33] <electron> redguy, I already have samba ;) It's just setting the printer to be avalible on the network so I can see it on my windows machine, how do I do that? Could you please guide me though it..
[12:33] <erisco> yes
[12:33] <Serenity> who's the bot?
[12:34] <jesse_> !info mp3
[12:34] <tony_> Can someone help me with Firefox?
[12:34] <twysted> !ubotu tell serenity about mp3
[12:34] <erisco> er
[12:34] <Merturk_NB> grr
[12:34] <dabaR> jesse_: msg the bot
[12:34] <Agrajag> Serenity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:34] <anto9us> erisco, you've shared your windows desktop?
[12:34] <jesse_> dabaR: ty
[12:34] <twysted> !ubotu tell jesse_ about mp3
[12:34] <Dipper> It was working yesterday :(
[12:34] <dabaR> jesse_: for what?
[12:34] <jesse_> dabaR: for how to use the bot correctly
[12:34] <Serenity> Thanks.
[12:35] <dabaR> haha
[12:35] <dabaR> ok
[12:35] <jesse_> :D
[12:35] <electron> redguy, I can't see anything in the Gnome printer settings that says "share this printer" or something similar to that.
[12:35] <erisco> i have the wrong ip
[12:35] <erisco> i am pinging the wrong machine
[12:35] <tga> anyone publishing their free/busy status from Evolution? I can't figure out why nothing is showing up on the server
[12:35] <erisco> damn, no i have to run out and find the ip...
[12:35] <Dipper> anyone?
[12:35] <dabaR> twysted: whatare you compiling?
[12:35] <avinoam> Anyone know where power management is in gnome?
[12:35] <twysted> dabar just a ircd
[12:35] <dabaR> twysted: pastebin the error.
[12:35] <bathini> hello friends
[12:36] <ryanmt> Hi, can somebody give me a hand on this, im trying to mount a network drive so installing smbfs.. i get this error "
[12:36] <ryanmt> "
[12:36] <ryanmt>   smbfs: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:36] <bathini> Does anyone know whether there is a pplive for linux?
[12:36] <ryanmt> what can i do?
[12:36] <tga> ryanmt, install smbfs
[12:36] <bathini> or similar
[12:36] <ryanmt> it wont let me
[12:36] <anto9us> ryanmt, install it
[12:36] <ryanmt> samba-common is installed
[12:36] <tga> ryanmt, nm, I misread what you were saying
[12:36] <dabaR> bathini: what is it?
[12:36] <tga> ryanmt, I take it you ran an apt-get update lately?
[12:36] <Seveas> ryanmt, put your sources.list on the pastebin
[12:36] <dabaR> ryanmt: what sources are you using?
[12:37] <avinoam> Anyone? Gnome power management setup?
[12:37] <bathini> Its is a p2p TV sharing application >>daba
[12:37] <hkais> maybe i'm to stupid, how can i activate a public/private-key auth in sshd?
[12:37] <Seveas> hkais, it's on by default on Ubuntu
[12:37] <thrush> avinoam: might be under screensaver settings but i dont really use gnome
[12:37] <ryanmt> ive ran apt-get update no difference, im using the sources off the unbuntuguide website. It was all setup today
[12:38] <hkais> Seveas: okay i will check it again
[12:38] <Seveas> just put your public key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[12:38] <anto9us> hkais, it should ask you when you try to connect
[12:38] <arianit> does Breezy come with ClearType enabled by default
[12:38] <dabaR> the n0odl3 is here!
[12:39] <bathini> What is the noodl3?
[12:39] <erisco> okay i cannot connect, it says connection refused. though the firewall does not block 3389
[12:39] <Seveas> n0odl3soup!
[12:39] <twysted> dabaR, pastedbin'd
[12:39] <Dipper> Does anyone know where I can find out how to slow down my processor ???
[12:39] <n0odl3> uhh hello dabaR
[12:39] <twysted> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3801
[12:39] <n0odl3> did i do something wrong?
[12:39] <tga> Dipper, what cpu do you have?
[12:39] <anto9us> erisco, did you select RDP protocol?
[12:39] <twysted> Dipper> why would u want to do that? lol
[12:39] <erisco> yes
[12:39] <Dipper> P4M
[12:39] <Seveas> n0odl3, no, dabaR is just crazy ;)
[12:39] <n0odl3> does anyone know why my bookmakrs keep on getting erased?!
[12:40] <n0odl3> in firefox
[12:40] <Dipper> 1.2/1.7 GHz
[12:40] <erisco> i am trying to connect to XP, and i used the user account name and password
[12:40] <n0odl3> its getting ridiculous
[12:40] <bathini> Help
[12:40] <ryanmt> anybody got any ideas then? :(
[12:40] <erisco> would this be correct?
[12:40] <anto9us> erisco, try the other RDP protocol
[12:40] <sizzam> anyone have a recommendation for a program to test your RAM for errors?
[12:40] <Merturk_NB> dabaR, will I see my own emails in the user's mailing list, or just the responses?
[12:40] <n0odl3> does anyone know whats going on?
[12:40] <dabaR> twysted: seriously, how long did you wait for the "error" to finish?] 
[12:40] <tga> n0odl3, http://del.icio.us :)
[12:40] <neithan> hi all, do i need firewall in linux?
[12:40] <Tokenizer> i have absolutely no control over sound using the XMMS volume controller or the system's sound icon running in the tray.. .... also i have one of those keyboards with volume control which display volume being changed on the screen when i play with those buttons however you don't actually hear the volume changing .... any clue why this is happening. or know of any articles addressing the issue?
[12:40] <dabaR> Merturk_NB: what do you see?
[12:40] <erisco> refused as well
[12:40] <Seveas> sizzam, reboot, select memtest86 from the grub menu
[12:40] <twysted> dabar several minutes lol
[12:40] <sizzam> thanks Seveas
[12:40] <Suicide|Freestyl> I'm trying to install Quake 4, and it's telling me to create a folder in /user/local/games, but for some unknown reason it's not allowing me to create a folder.
[12:40] <n0odl3> seriously people does anyone know whats going on?!
[12:40] <bathini> So noone knows pplive?
[12:40] <tga> neithan, if you have open services yes. install and use firestarter
[12:40] <Suicide|Freestyl> How can I create one?
[12:40] <twysted> Suicide|Freestyl> use sudo to make the folder
[12:41] <bathini> or coolstreams
[12:41] <Merturk_NB> dabaR, the condensed mailings for the day
[12:41] <Dipper> And I want to do that because I use a laptop
[12:41] <twysted> Suicide|Freestyl> or run the installer as sudo and itll do it for you
[12:41] <dabaR> seveas, does that twysted's pastebin look like an error to you?
[12:41] <Merturk_NB> dabaR, there have been almost 7 today
[12:41] <Seveas> Suicide|Freestyl, sudo mkdir -p /usr/local/games/quake4
[12:41] <Dipper> vis, slowing down my processor will increase battery life
[12:41] <Serenity> I download k3b-mp3, but mp3s still don't work in Rhythmbox.
[12:41] <n0odl3> `does anyone know why my bookmarks get erased?
[12:41] <Suicide|Freestyl> twysted, I don't even known how to run the .run file.
[12:41] <Suicide|Freestyl> Seveas, Thank you! :D
[12:41] <thrush> Dipper: u cant do that in bios?
[12:41] <budluva> anyone know how to fix the azureus resize problem?
[12:41] <twysted> Suicide|Freestyl> sudo sh file
[12:41] <Dipper> WTF would I want to do that in the bios when the OS can do it
[12:41] <tga> Serenity, k3b and rhythmbox don't have much in common.. maybe you meant gstreamer?
[12:41] <Suicide|Freestyl> twysted, Thank you :)
[12:41] <bathini> Anyone who knows an application similar to pplive?
[12:41] <Seveas> Suicide|Freestyl, after that: sudo chown $USER /usr/local/games/quake4
[12:42] <tga> !mp3
[12:42] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[12:42] <erisco> anto9us, i am trying to connect to XP, and i used the account's user and pass for the fields... is that right?
[12:42] <Seveas> and run the installer as normal user
[12:42] <twysted> budluva> looks on azureus's website it has the resolution
[12:42] <Dipper> That's the whole point of the P4 MOBILE processor
[12:42] <budluva> cool
[12:42] <anto9us> erisco, no, just the password you set when you shared the desktop
[12:42] <dabaR> twysted: thats not an error, let it compile...
[12:42] <Seveas> Dipper, install gnome-applets from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:42] <erisco> if i don't know that password, how do i find out?
[12:42] <Dipper> yeah, I've got that
[12:42] <Seveas> Dipper, and then add the cpu scaling monitor to your panel
[12:42] <erisco> can i reset it from the windows box?
[12:42] <Dipper> I had it working yesterday
[12:43] <anto9us> erisco, you type it when you share your desktop
[12:43] <erisco> and what will the username be?
[12:43] <budluva> twysted, azureus.sourceforge.net?
[12:43] <anto9us> erisco, I don't think you need one
[12:43] <twysted> budluva, yes
[12:43] <Dipper> "CPU Scaling unsupported: You will not be able to modify the frequency of your machine.  Your machine may be misconfigured or not have hardware support for CPU frequency scaling."
[12:43] <erisco> anto9us, i do not know what you mean
[12:43] <xulin> nanuit
[12:43] <Seveas> twysted, warnings during compilation are not fatal...
[12:43] <Seveas> Dipper, hmmm.....
[12:43] <Dipper> yeah
[12:43] <ryanmt> has anybody got any idea how i can install smbfs, i get this when i try "  smbfs: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:43] <ryanmt> " everything on apt-get is upto date using sources off the unbuntuguide site
[12:43] <Seveas> Dipper, do: uname -a
[12:43] <anto9us> erisco, just make sure you type the same password on both machines
[12:43] <erisco> anto9us, maybe i am not sharing the desktop yet
[12:43] <twysted> dabar it doesnt compile it just goes on and on with that shit and nothing it "compiles" works properly i never had this problem until i had to reinstall ubuntu and used the server iso image
[12:43] <electron> where are you?
[12:44] <Seveas> ryanmt, put your sources.list on the pastebin
[12:44] <anto9us> erisco, maybe
[12:44] <erisco> anto9us, i do not remember ever typing in such a password
[12:44] <Dipper> Linux jbd203 2.6.12-9-686 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:25:32 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:44] <erisco> anto9us, how do i share the desktop then?
[12:44] <Seveas> Dipper, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:44] <Seveas> put the output on the pastebin
[12:44] <twysted> how can i remove compilers from my system so i can reinstall them properly
[12:45] <anto9us> erisco, from the windows machine, on your menus somewhere you can select to share your desktop
[12:45] <dabaR> Seveas: haha... -> "everything on apt-get is upto date using sources off the unbuntuguide site"
[12:45] <twysted> or rather what should i uninstall
[12:45] <Seveas> argh
[12:45] <erisco> anto9us, i will check brb
[12:45] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is a piece of shit
[12:45] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[12:45] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[12:45] <Dipper> Seveas: Lots of stuff - what do you want - all of it?
[12:45] <dabaR> haha, its old now, I wonder why its stilll up.
[12:45] <hellp> Hi, I have a problem with Gnome. I can't delete links from my desktop that point to a directory that I'm not the owner of. Is this intended?
[12:45] <Seveas> Dipper, all :)
[12:45] <Seveas> (on the pastebin)
[12:45] <dabaR> ryanmt: ask the bot about sources
[12:46] <ryanmt> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3804 theres my source file
[12:46] <fede-G> hi
[12:47] <fede-G> i 'm looking for a program to record from my webcam
[12:47] <fede-G> but i can't find one
[12:47] <tga> fede-G, do you have the webcam running properly in Linux?
[12:47] <dabaR> ryanmt: make it like my post. reload the page and click on it on the left.
[12:47] <fede-G> yes
[12:48] <dabaR> ryanmt: then update/reload your package list
[12:48] <Serenity> Sorry, I'm a complete n00b. Could someone explain, in a way a n00b like me could understand, how I can play mp3s? I got k3b-mp3, now what do I do?
[12:48] <dabaR> Serenity: did you ask the bot?
[12:48] <Agrajag> Serenity: You got the wrong package
[12:49] <Agrajag> You're not trying to use mp3s in k3b, right? You're trying to use them in rhythmbox?
[12:49] <Serenity> yep.
[12:49] <Suicide|Freestyl> Okay, so now how do I go about copying the files? It saying that I don't have permission to copy the files.
[12:49] <ryanmt> ok done dabaR, still getting the same problem though :(
[12:49] <Agrajag> You need to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:49] <dabaR> ryanmt: well, it seems youll have to roll back a little bit, or something.
[12:50] <ryanmt> how do i do that :)
[12:50] <erisco> it just wont work... i shared the folder and all
[12:50] <anto9us> erisco, it's not about sharing a folder
[12:50] <Merturk_NB> any sound experts here besides crimsun? he's away
[12:50] <fede-G> ...
[12:50] <budluva> twysted, still cant find that fix on the site
[12:50] <Agrajag> Serenity: specifically the part under the heading "Codecs"
[12:50] <erisco> then what is it? i am confused
[12:50] <anto9us> erisco, you want to remote control the machine yes?
[12:50] <rsosborn> Hey people
[12:50] <rsosborn> got a dumb question
[12:50] <fede-G> i 'm looking for a program to record from my webcam
[12:50] <rsosborn> should be a easy one
[12:51] <rsosborn> If I create a doc using open office
[12:51] <rsosborn> will it open using MS office ?
[12:51] <rsosborn> are the compatible
[12:51] <dabaR> :D
[12:51] <Agrajag> rsosborn: a .doc file, or a .sxw?
[12:51] <anto9us> rsosborn, save in ms format, yes
[12:51] <Agrajag> You can export a .doc file from openoffice and open that in MS Office.
[12:51] <Merturk_NB> that's nifty
[12:51] <rsosborn> so you can save in ms office format
[12:51] <rsosborn> cool
[12:51] <Agrajag> But MS Office won't open a .sxw document
[12:52] <dabaR> cause its lame
[12:52] <plumpkin> i need help with my rt2500 wireless card, anyone willing to help me out?
[12:52] <erisco> anto9us, yes i do
[12:52] <ryanmt> dabaR, how do i roll back?
[12:52] <dabaR> huuuuuuuge files
[12:52] <rsosborn> thanks fellas
[12:52] <dabaR> just do it.
[12:52] <rsosborn> I'm out that is all the linux noob needed
[12:52] <ryanmt> is there a command?
[12:52] <fede-G> do you know any program that can do that?
[12:53] <anto9us> erisco, then on your menu somewhere, I can't remember what it's called, but you can run a program that gives remote control, I think it's called remote desktop sharing or something
[12:53] <Merturk_NB> you know, it would be cool if there were channels dedicated to specific topics, with common answers in their topics
[12:53] <dabaR> ryanmt: well, you would need to find out what is overupgraded. upgrade to breezy is maybe the best thing to do.
[12:53] <anto9us> erisco, you just need to run that from the windows machine
[12:53] <Seveas> plumpkin, wiki.ubuntu.com/RT2500Howto
[12:53] <Merturk_NB> one for sound, one for video, one for wireless, etc etc
[12:53] <ryanmt> i only downloaded ubuntu a few days ago so shouldnt it be the latest version?
[12:54] <fede-G> hi    i 'm looking for a program to record from my webcam
[12:54] <esher> http://www.debianshells.de:8000, WinAMP/XMMS stream, TUNE IN!!!
[12:54] <Seveas> ryanmt, it should
[12:54] <dabaR> haha
[12:54] <Seveas> if you downloaded the right one ;)
[12:54] <plumpkin> Seveas, ive tried that, it's just not working for me, and im not sure what to do now.. ive tried everything i could find on the forums, just not getting anywhere
[12:54] <Suicide|Freestyl> Can anyone help me? I'm trying to install Quake 4, and it's wanting me to copy files from the CDs to a folder, but when I try to paste the files or copy them, it's telling me that I don't have permission to move things to that folder.
[12:54] <ryanmt> it worked last install, but i messed up installing something so started over.. and now it work work like it did before hehe
[12:54] <dabaR> Seveas: his sources show its hoary
[12:54] <dabaR> or maybe its even breezy with hoary sources:))
[12:54] <ryanmt> thats because i copied them from the unbuntuguide site i guess
[12:54] <concept10> I cant log onto my Ubuntu server after install, what gives?  This is the second time this has happened.  What should I do?
[12:55] <Seveas> dabaR, actually, that happend to someone yesterday
[12:55] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL, greetings
[12:55] <dabaR> ryanmt: cat /etc/issue
[12:55] <Inchabod> Does anyone know anything about oddcast?
[12:55] <Seveas> installed breezy, changed sources to hoary because ubuntuguide told that
[12:55] <Seveas> I HATE THAT PIECE OF SHIT
[12:55] <dabaR> well, we will see now.
[12:55] <rob^> heh
[12:55] <dabaR> you are crazy Seveas
[12:55] <ryanmt> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger"
[12:55] <dabaR> haha!
[12:55] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, god night (at least here in my timezone ;)
[12:55] <dabaR> ok, well change that, and install what you need.
[12:55] <Seveas> rob^, I always do that too ;)
[12:56] <dabaR> ryanmt: get the sources from ubotu for breezy
[12:56] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL, it's the afternoon here. Were you helping me with my sound the other day?
[12:56] <dooglus> my keyboard is set up in "us" mode.  I've tried adding "uk" but the list of available mappings is empty.  what package do I need to install?
[12:56] <Serenity> Yay :) That works.
[12:56] <Serenity> Thanks a lot, all.
[12:56] <ryanmt> cheers ill try that now
[12:56] <dabaR> $20.
[12:56] <thirso> Does anyone know if theres a way to listen  to an aacPlus shoutcast radio?
[12:56] <erisco> anto9us, my windows machine does not have such a program, but it did have a simular program that complained the computer settings didn't allow a remote desktop connection
[12:56] <dabaR> ryanmt: that should work. and dont use ubuntuguide
[12:56] <erisco> anto9us, what would running an application like that do anyways?
[12:57] <boci^> Hummm.. cany anybody tell me a good working script for creating jail users (it's need gcc and make)
[12:57] <anto9us> erisco, that would allow you to sit at your linux machine and control the windows machine
[12:57] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, helping... i just give some insightfull hints. Did the web pages help you?
[12:57] <anto9us> erisco, I guess that's not what you wanted to do though
[12:57] <erisco> anto9us, if i use a remote desktop from windows... wouldn't that be windows controlling my linux macine?
[12:57] <fede-G> CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY I CANNOT GET ANYONE TO ANSWER ME WHENEVER I ASK A QUESTION
[12:58] <anto9us> erisco, no
[12:58] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL, I've found a tutorial to follow, but crimsun hasn't been back to help me decode it.
[12:58] <anto9us> erisco, you can do both
[12:58] <crimsun> fede-G: dude, shut up.
[12:58] <erisco> anto9us, :s
[12:58] <dabaR> fede-G: cause we dont know
[12:58] <erisco> anto9us, oh okay
[12:58] <ryanmt> woohooo fixed it! thanks guys
[12:58] <erisco> anto9us, well let me see if the other windows machine has one, brb
[12:58] <fede-G> dabar you could at least say so
[12:58] <thirso> dooglus: try keyboards-rg , not sure tho
[12:58] <Seveas> because you shout
[12:59] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL, it's really frusterating, b/c I don't know enough about the terminal to know what to do. I don't even know enough about linux in general to figure it out
[12:59] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, what says the tutorial?
[12:59] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, url?
[12:59] <thirso> dooglus: try libxkbui1 and oem-config-keyboard
[01:00] <anto9us> fede-G, if everyone said when they didn't know the answer to something it would get very noisy in here
[01:00] <Merturk_NB> erUSUL, getting the url, it says alot of stuff. The problem I have is, I don't know what is says. I don't even know what I don't know, if that makes sense. >> url:  http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=ESS+Technology&card=.&chip=ES18xx&module=es18xx#intro
[01:00] <crimsun> he could have just used ''apt-cache search webcam''
[01:01] <Merturk_NB> hey crimsun, I've been in my bios
[01:01] <moonbird> does ubuntu come with a firewall that i can turn off?
[01:01] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: good, and what did you find out?
[01:01] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I didn't see a PnP os switch
[01:01] <moonbird> please.....
[01:01] <xjjoe01> moonbird....  you can install firestarter if you want a firewall
[01:01] <dabaR> moonbird: you just asked.
[01:01] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: what did you find out about the irqs?
[01:02] <dooglus> thirso: thanks
[01:02] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, but I did see two different sets of resources for the audio controler and a PnP audio
[01:02] <moonbird> but there isn't a default firewall
[01:02] <moonbird> ?
[01:02] <hkais> anyone here who uses webmin-fsdump?
[01:02] <hkais> i get following error
[01:02] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I've got them written down
[01:02] <hkais>  HTTP/1.0 500 Perl execution failed Server: MiniServ/0.01 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:01:29 GMT Content-type: text/html Connection: close  Error - Perl execution failed Undefined subroutine &proc::list_processes called at /usr/share/webmin/fsdump/index.cgi line 89.
[01:02] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: ok, need the output from both
[01:02] <dabaR> in the same minute...I just read it now. It does not for outgoing, and incoming you dont need ports open unless you run a server, and if you do they opne by themselves.
[01:02] <anto9us> moonbird, firewall is built into the kernel
[01:02] <Ofe> I don't think so moonbird. At least 5.04 doesn't.
[01:02] <dabaR> moonbird: ^
[01:02] <anto9us> !tell moonbird about firestarter
[01:02] <moonbird> hmmm.... i am have a weird problem with my firefox
[01:02] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, can you join #merturksound? I'll paste them in there
[01:03] <kbrooks> !tell me about firestarter
[01:03] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: use paste
[01:03] <xjjoe01> Moodbird... yes and no...   the kernel has IPTables which can controll connections and ports..
[01:03] <thirso> !tell Merturk_NB pastebin
[01:03] <Suicide|Freestyl> Grr
[01:03] <xjjoe01> Also, you can install shorewall
[01:03] <moonbird> i can ping internet.... google.com, modem, etc but i can't load anything in firefox. I am using Irc, However.
[01:03] <thirso> !pastebin
[01:03] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:03] <Suicide|Freestyl> All I Want to be able to do is copy files from my cd to a folder, but it's not letting me because it's saying I don't have permission, this can't be THAT difficult to troubleshoot.
[01:04] <Seveas> Suicide|Freestyl, which folder?
[01:04] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, i'm reading... and testing... wait a minute
[01:04] <moonbird> i thought maybe there was a firewall i could turn off
[01:04] <kent> Suicide|Freestyl, are you sure you're copying them and not dragging them.. ?
[01:04] <Suicide|Freestyl> Seveas, I'm trying to copy files from my Quake 4 cd to /usr/local/games/quake4/qbase4
[01:04] <Suicide|Freestyl> kent, yes, I'm possitive! :D
[01:05] <xjjoe01> moonbird..  a firewall isn't your problem unless you have a router that has a rule set to deny you computer web access
[01:05] <Pygi> Hellooo everyone from newly formed HR LoCo team :)
[01:05] <dabaR> moonbird: wget http://dabar.selfip.org/f  in a terminal
[01:05] <thirso> Suicide|Freestyl: try sudo cp /media/cdrom/etc /folder
[01:05] <Seveas> Suicide|Freestyl, sudo chown -R $USER /usr/local/games/quake4
[01:05] <dabaR> Pygi: and? haha, hr, like croatia?
[01:05] <moonbird> i will try that .... thanks.
[01:05] <sorush20> how do I ls files that start with ae_ in a folder?
[01:05] <Pygi> yes Dabar :)
[01:05] <dabaR> good
[01:05] <dabaR> where is yuor page?
[01:05] <Pygi> ubuntu-hr.org
[01:06] <Seveas> sorush20, ls ae_*
[01:06] <anto9us> sorsis, ls ae_*
[01:06] <xjjoe01> ls -l
[01:06] <sorush20> thanks guys..
[01:06] <Pygi> go see it :P
[01:06] <Merturk_NB> crimsun    http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3807
[01:06] <dabaR> Pygi: is ivoks have part of the team?
[01:06] <Suicide|Freestyl> Seveas, you are the greatest!
[01:07] <Seveas> Suicide|Freestyl, I know
[01:07] <Suicide|Freestyl> ^_^
[01:07] <moonbird> dabaR: that seemed to work. Am i looking for anything specifically?
[01:07] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I never thought my bios would really be needed for my os
[01:07] <ryanmt> has anybody on here setup dual monitors? ive got it working of sorts but i cant get rid of scan lines on the 2nd monitor and change the rez on either of them
[01:07] <Suicide|Freestyl> Thank you so much :D
[01:07] <Pygi> Yes, ivoks is part of team too :)
[01:07] <Seveas> yw
[01:07] <Tristan9669> I'm still kinda confused, how do I use the sudo to delete or rename files.
[01:07] <dabaR> moonbird: whats the error in firefox? did you cklean your cache or whatever?
[01:08] <Seveas> Tristan9669, sudo rm / sudo mv
[01:08] <xjjoe01> sudo rm
[01:08] <dabaR> Pygi: so there is someone on ubuntu-hr?
[01:08] <Pygi> Me and him thinked about it for a long time, then when we got few more peeps we could work it out, and now it's good :)
[01:08] <Pygi> yes, ofcourse
[01:08] <Tristan9669> ok let me try
[01:08] <moonbird> dabaR: it has never worked from install. It timesout.
[01:08] <concept10> how do I recover a root password or user passwd?
[01:08] <Seveas> concept10, not.
[01:08] <Pygi> we even have irc chanel: #ubuntu-hr
[01:09] <Pygi> And There is someone there :P
[01:09] <moonbird> dabaR:two windows boxes work. I thought maybe it was a DHCP problem so i tried to connect statically but that did not work either...
[01:09] <xjjoe01> sudo passwd (username) and press enter.  It will ask you for a new password
[01:09] <concept10> Seveas, There must be a problem with the Ubuntu server install.  I have installed it twice, specified a password and after reboot, I cant login anymore
[01:09] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, do you want to see the information I found with google concerning this?
[01:09] <xjjoe01> monbird.  Can you ping cnet.com?
[01:09] <Tristan9669> thanks seveas
[01:10] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: attach it to the paste
[01:10] <moonbird> yes
[01:10] <dabaR> moonbird: your port 80 works fine.
[01:10] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, it's a url
[01:10] <dabaR> moonbird: you just wgot the file. dns is working too. you are online, so obviously dhcp is working.
[01:10] <moonbird> dabaR: exactly.
[01:11] <xjjoe01> moonbird. do you have a proxi set up somewhere?
[01:11] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, new one >> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3808
[01:11] <ryanmt> does anybody know why when i goto the screen resolution program in system i get the error "The X server does not support the XrandR extension. Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available"
[01:11] <moonbird> no proxi -- that is what i thought, as well.
[01:11] <stefano> espaol?
[01:12] <n0odl3> if my sister shutdown my computer the wrong way
[01:12] <MenZa`> stefano: #ubuntu.es
[01:12] <MenZa`> nevermind
[01:12] <MenZa`> that doesn't exist
[01:12] <n0odl3> is it possible that may be the reason why my bookmarks got erased?
[01:12] <moonbird> i am connected directly to Qwest crappy Actiontec DSL modem
[01:12] <erisco> i am in! muahaha!
[01:12] <Seveas> !es
[01:12] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:12] <n0odl3> this happened also when i tried kde through sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[01:12] <xjjoe01> moonbird.  do a ifconfig eth0
[01:13] <erisco> thanks anto9us
[01:13] <dm> Is it possible for my Ubuntu installation to be corrupt, I cant get my wireless card to be enabled in KDE for the life of me, nothing works
[01:13] <moonbird>  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:90:27:97:5C:36
[01:13] <moonbird>           inet addr:192.168.0.3  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[01:13] <moonbird>           inet6 addr: fe80::290:27ff:fe97:5c36/64 Scope:Link
[01:13] <moonbird>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[01:13] <moonbird>           RX packets:890 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[01:13] <moonbird>           TX packets:948 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[01:13] <moonbird>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[01:13] <moonbird>           RX bytes:183366 (179.0 KiB)  TX bytes:183837 (179.5 KiB)
[01:13] <anto9us> erisco, yw
[01:13] <MenZa`> moonbird: www.pastebin.com!
[01:13] <thirso> lol
[01:13] <erisco> regarding my samba issue, it seems when i try to connect to my computer externally using windows, it complains of not having authentication
[01:14] <xjjoe01> moonbird. also do you have any other ethernet adapters?
[01:14] <erisco> so i am figuring there is something wrong in that field with my samba
[01:14] <erisco> though that doesn't really explain why i cannot view my network from tis machine
[01:14] <erisco> any ideas?
[01:14] <xjjoe01> moonbird.  I think you have to set up your gateway address.
[01:15] <dabaR> xjjoe01: everything is working, its firefox.
[01:15] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, still there?
[01:15] <anto9us> erisco, set your workgroup on windows and linux machines share from windows then connect to windows machine using the same username and password as is on the windows machine
[01:15] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: I'm very busy atm, I'll address you when I have a free moment
[01:15] <n0odl3> is my theory possible?
[01:15] <xjjoe01> dabaR.. I have never seen firefox not work before
[01:15] <n0odl3> or even close to being correct?
[01:15] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, my apologies
[01:15] <xjjoe01> if it is broke, that would be weird
[01:16] <ryanmt> does anybody know why when i goto the screen resolution program in system i get the error "The X server does not support the XrandR extension. Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available"
[01:16] <xjjoe01> got to go to dinner
[01:16] <dwt> anto9us: Back after reinstalling ubuntu - the problem is gone, admin exists, and we can use sudo just fine
[01:16] <dwt> thanks to you again!
[01:16] <n0odl3> does aynone know why my bookmakrs constantly gets erased?
[01:16] <dm> anyone?
[01:16] <dm> Or that i chose to configure my Ethernet on the installation and not wireless?
[01:16] <thesilentkiller> how do i permanently set an environmental variable? (JAVA_HOME)
[01:16] <anto9us> dwt, well done,  welcome to ubuntu :)
[01:16] <erisco> anto9us, you will have the dumb that down for me, i lost you
[01:16] <farruinn> finger kyral
[01:16] <esher> http://www.debianshells.de:8000 xmms/winamp mp3stream - genre: technolectro ... tune in ...
[01:17] <dabaR> Seveas: why is this guy still here?
[01:17] <dabaR> and posting.
[01:17] <anto9us> erisco, you need to set the workgroup on your windows machine and linux machine
[01:17] <farruinn> Kyral: Do you go to Clarkson university?
[01:17] <Kyral> Yesss....
[01:17] <anto9us> erisco, they should be the same
[01:17] <Kyral> damnit where is my hostmask
[01:17] <erisco> anto9us, yes they are
[01:17] <farruinn> Kyral: I'm at Potsdam :D
[01:17] <Kyral> Die ;P
[01:17] <erisco> (is there anyway to run the remote desktop fullscreen?
[01:17] <Kyral> Kidding ;P
[01:17] <dwt> farruinn: hey, I'm from Berlin. :)
[01:18] <farruinn> Kyral: hehe, going to UBZ?
[01:18] <anto9us> erisco, on linux select places | network servers
[01:18] <Kyral> yes
[01:18] <farruinn> dwt: hah, not that Potsdam ;)
[01:18] <genbie> anyone knows where i can find the wastebasket on my desktop plz?
[01:18] <dwt> farruinn: Damn....
[01:18] <anto9us> genbie, it's on the lower panel
[01:18] <dwt> :)
[01:18] <dwt> well, cu all!
[01:18] <dabaR> genbie: you want a bucket on your background?
[01:19] <erisco> anto9us, what is the conf file to change the workgroup? i had this set before but i dont think i set it again after i tried to reinstall
[01:19] <Seveas> genbie, ottom right
[01:19] <erisco> anto9us, i know this wasn't the problem tho
[01:19] <thirso> !tell thirso about pastebin
[01:19] <crimsun> farruinn: please post the debdiff on the web somewhere
[01:19] <Suicide|Freestyl> Linux is driving me crazy :P
[01:19] <genbie> tthanx but i cant find it
[01:19] <dabaR> esher: dont post that here.
[01:19] <Suicide|Freestyl> Now it's saying I don't have permission to view the files on the cd rom
[01:19] <anto9us> erisco, /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:19] <erisco> anto9us, and when i go to network places, i have "Windows Network", but when i click on it, it does not detect my workgroup
[01:20] <Suicide|Freestyl> Is there a FAQ or something with basic commands or something somewhere :P
[01:20] <genbie> its not there!
[01:20] <erisco> anto9us, nope it is set correctly (do upper or lower case matter?)
[01:20] <Pygi> basic commands for what??
[01:20] <erisco> does anyone know how to run the terminal server client in full screen?
[01:21] <anto9us> erisco, restart samba
[01:21] <Seveas> erisco, <ctrl><enter>
[01:21] <Robbie___> -----BREAKING NEWS UPDATE!!-------
[01:21] <anto9us> erisco, you change the terminal server settings before you connect
[01:21] <Robbie___> ---NEW KERNEL IS OUT----
[01:21] <erisco> Seveas, that doesn't seem to do anything, do i do this when i am connected?
[01:21] <erisco> oh okay
[01:21] <Seveas> erisco, yes
[01:21] <Merturk_NB> Robbie___ already? i just installed :(
[01:21] <Nomad_01> Is there a way to use your wireless and hardwired network connections at the same time to boost connection speeds?
[01:22] <erisco> found it, tanks everyone
[01:22] <Seveas> Merturk_NB, ignore him...
[01:22] <erisco> okay cool
[01:22] <Seveas> erisco, when running you can change between full screen and windowed with <ctrl><enter>
[01:22] <erisco> Seveas, okay cool
[01:23] <erisco> anto9us, have any other samba ideas? remember, windows was complaining about authentication...
[01:23] <thirso> has anyone had trouble getting X to work in the K7 kernel?
[01:23] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: did you ever try ''sudo modprobe snd-es18xx dma2=5 dma1=1 irq=5 fm_port=0x330 mpu_port=0x388 port=0x220 isapnp=0''?
[01:24] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, don't know, but let me try it now
[01:24] <ryanmt> does anybody know why when i goto the screen resolution program in system i get the error "The X server does not support the XrandR extension. Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available"
[01:24] <absent> hey i need some help with my new applications thing
[01:24] <absent> it wont start up
[01:24] <erisco> anto9us, you want me to paste my conf file in pastebin?
[01:24] <absent> it just sits there and freezes
[01:24] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, fatal errors
[01:24] <PhoenixP3K> Anyone can give me some info on ShipIt ?
[01:25] <ProN00b> where can i get gnome applets ?
[01:25] <Seveas> PhoenixP3K, what do you need to know?
[01:25] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: try the snd-es1688 driver
[01:26] <anto9us> erisco, connect to the windows machine from linux, I think it's easier
[01:26] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I read somewhere you have to set the esstype
[01:26] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, maybe that's what we're missing
[01:26] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, and, that wasn't found
[01:26] <PhoenixP3K> Seveas, how long is the shipping of the new version in Canada
[01:26] <erisco> anto9us, i am, i can do that now yay
[01:26] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: what did you type for snd-es1688?
[01:26] <evian> Any opinions on Thunderbird vs Evolution? I usually use Firefox for a browser and like that. Up until now I've been using web mail, but am thinking to start using an email client. I'm not sure which to try.
[01:26] <Seveas> PhoenixP3K, 4 to 6 weeks
[01:26] <erisco> anto9us, but i need to get samba to work for file transfer
[01:27] <PhoenixP3K> Seveas, great then. Thanks
[01:27] <anto9us> erisco, one shared folder is enough isn't it?
[01:27] <Seveas> PhoenixP3K, if you're in montreal, drop by at UBZ, they have tons of them
[01:27] <erisco> anto9us, what i am doing in running photoshop 6.0 on windows, and i need to get my images back to linux
[01:27] <ryanmt> can somebody explain how to change the screen rez when the default program in gnome is stuffed? thanks
[01:27] <erisco> anto9us, unless i... unless... ooh that is nice
[01:27] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, same for the first, just changed the one part
[01:27] <anto9us> erisco, drop it into the shared folder
[01:27] <erisco> anto9us, i could set up a user account on the windows box just for my website work...
[01:27] <jareth_> just installed gtkpod
[01:28] <erisco> anto9us, anyways
[01:28] <jareth_> my iPod has hfs+ on it
[01:28] <erisco> anto9us, forget the whole remote desktop thing
[01:28] <RancidLM> hey all i would like to install ubuntu but im looking of ways to do it.. i have a broken cdrom.. but a usb external one.. that i cannot boot to it
[01:28] <genbie> watsebasket, wher can i find it plz?its not on the bottom right corner!
[01:28] <Merturk_NB> wait
[01:28] <RancidLM> can some one suggest something
[01:28] <jareth_> get the following error
[01:28] <erisco> anto9us, samba, specifically wont work correctly
[01:28] <jareth_> Error opening '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/Music/F14/gtkpod770792.mp3' for writing (Read-only file system).
[01:28] <jareth_> ??
[01:28] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I redid it. I had typed es1666 first
[01:28] <anto9us> erisco, samba can be troublesome to set up
[01:28] <erisco> anto9us, i cannot view my network, and windows can not make a conenction with me (i am not talking about RDP)
[01:28] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I didn't get errors this time around
[01:29] <genbie> anyone knows where i can find the wastebasket on my desktop plz?
[01:29] <dabaR> RancidLM: install minimal woody network, and change your sources to breezy?
[01:29] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:29] <dabaR> crimsun: how can he do that again?
[01:29] <erisco> anto9us, it worked fine on 5.04... and i think it worked before i had to reformat 5.10 because i messed it up
[01:29] <crimsun> dabaR: do what?
[01:29] <Trash[impersonat> sorry
[01:29] <erisco> i could just reformat again...
[01:29] <dabaR> install floppy debian, and upgrade to breezy?
[01:29] <ryanmt> can somebody explain how to change the screen rez when the default program in gnome is stuffed? thanks
[01:29] <anto9us> erisco, select places, connect to server
[01:29] <erisco> it would be a little annoying tho
[01:29] <Trashcan> back to gnome is it
[01:29] <Trashcan> it is*
[01:29] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, justin@ubuntu:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:29] <Merturk_NB> 0 [E11            ] : ES1688 - ES1688 rev 11
[01:29] <Merturk_NB>                      ES1688 rev 11 at 0x220, irq 5, dma 1
[01:29] <erUSUL> Merturk_NB, well it seems that the standar ubuntu kernel comes without isa sound card support. you are out of luck sorry :(
[01:29] <genbie> anyone knows where i can find the wastebasket on my desktop plz?
[01:29] <dabaR> ryanmt: ask the bot
[01:30] <erisco> anto9us, i don't see how this will work but now what?
[01:30] <jareth_> anybody some idea how I could write files to my iPod?
[01:30] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: now run alsamixer and unmute Master/PCM
[01:30] <erisco> anto9us, what is the service type i want?
[01:30] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: and adjust their volumes
[01:30] <anto9us> erisco, select service type is windows share
[01:30] <ryanmt> ive tried that dabaR, it screwd up my xorg.conf i had to go back to my backup
[01:30] <erisco> anto9us, now i need a server
[01:30] <anto9us> erisco, server is ip adress of windows computer
[01:30] <erisco> anto9us, the? i have many
[01:31] <dabaR> genbie: right click, select creaete new folder, and change its icon to one that looks like a gatrbage bin, and then delete files in it like you would in the trash bin.
[01:31] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, how do I unmute?
[01:31] <erisco> anto9us, i don't enter each one do i?
[01:31] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: then test with ''aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''
[01:31] <anto9us> erisco, the one with the ared folder on it
[01:31] <RancidLM> dabaR: i can't boot from any cd... there is a current linux distro installed.. can i copy the kernel and ramdisk and try to boot to it via grub?
[01:31] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: 'm'
[01:31] <anto9us> *shared
[01:31] <dabaR> RancidLM: there are debian floppies.
[01:31] <erisco> anto9us okay...
[01:31] <crimsun> dabaR: I'm still missing context for your question
[01:31] <dabaR> RancidLM: there is network install
[01:31] <dabaR> RancidLM: tell him
[01:31] <genbie> dabaR, no i want to recover one file that i accidentaly moved to the wastebasket
[01:31] <anto9us> erisco, populate the rest of the info and connect
[01:31] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, red box means muted? m isn't doing anything
[01:31] <erisco> anto9us, i don't know the folder field
[01:32] <dabaR> genbie: ls .trash in a terminal
[01:32] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: ...you're not using alsamixer, are you?
[01:32] <anto9us> erisco, it will probably work ok without it
[01:32] <levander> I want to connect to this message board I'm interested in via a public internet proxy server, someone can point me to how to get started the easiest way possible?
[01:32] <tescoil> Feature of several window managers, you click on the top bar of the window and does a vertical blind.  Any doing that on Ubuntu's Gnome WM, or I gotta install another WM?
[01:32] <Merturk_NB> alsamixer v 1.0.9a
[01:32] <anto9us> erisco, but when you share a folder you give it a share name, that would be what you'd put in there
[01:32] <jareth_> Error opening '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/Music/F14/gtkpod770792.mp3' for writing (Read-only file system).
[01:32] <RancidLM> dabaR: so i can boot using a usbcdrom using the debian floppys?
[01:32] <dabaR> genbie: .Trash
[01:32] <jareth_> how can I solve this?
[01:32] <dabaR> RancidLM: a floppy disk
[01:33] <erisco> anto9us, yes i knew that field at least
[01:33] <genbie> dabaR thanx
[01:33] <jazzido> hi...i'm trying to get my SiS190 NIC configured. Is there already any packaged module for it?
[01:33] <dabaR> RancidLM: ask crimsun about how to install netboot, or upgrade the debian floppy to ubuntu
[01:33] <nickrud> tescoil, system->preferences->windows, look at the title bar action
[01:33] <Seveas> jareth_, mount it rw instead of ro
[01:33] <PhoenixP3K> Seveas, UBZ, what's that. Full name I mean
[01:34] <Seveas> PhoenixP3K, wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBelowZero
[01:34] <RancidLM> crimsun: Floppys ? :D
[01:34] <Seveas> the ubuntu conference that starts tomorrow
[01:34] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I see the bars now that I've expanded the terminal window, but 'm' isn't doing anything
[01:34] <tescoil> nickrud: TNX.  Is the WM properly called "Gnome" or does it have AKAs?
[01:34] <nickrud> tescoil, it's metacity
[01:34] <jareth_> Seveas: it is mounted rw
[01:34] <dabaR> haha. crimsun he wants to install ubuntu, but has a non-bootable usb cdrom drive, and a broken built in cd drive, how aelse can he install?
[01:34] <jareth_> Seveas: there is hfs+ on it
[01:35] <n0odl3> does anyone know if someone shut down the computer wrog
[01:35] <jareth_> Seveas: installed hfstools and libs
[01:35] <n0odl3> *wrong
[01:35] <tescoil> nickrud: most excellent help.  TNX again
[01:35] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, it works
[01:35] <Seveas> hfs+, hmmm
[01:35] <n0odl3> the data gets scrambled thus possibly resulting in erased bookmarks
[01:35] <n0odl3> doesn anyone think thats is true?
[01:35] <Seveas> no experience with that, sorry
[01:35] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: works being?
[01:35] <nickrud> tescoil, np :)
[01:35] <PhoenixP3K> Seveas, thanks I'll look into that :)
[01:35] <crimsun> context is good.
[01:35] <n0odl3> can anyone help explain why my bookmarks constantly get erased?
[01:35] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, thank you very much. now, how do I get this to autoload at every boot? >>> the a play worked
[01:35] <crimsun> RancidLM: download the netboot floppies?
[01:35] <jareth_> Seveas: /dev/sda3 on /media/ipod type hfsplus (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000)
[01:36] <erisco> anto9us, okay it worked =)
[01:36] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: echo "snd-es1688" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[01:36] <erisco> anto9us, but why can't the windows network display whiteroad?
[01:36] <avinoam> Anyone know how to set power management options in gnome?
[01:36] <ProN00b> how do i stop totem from beeing the default player ?!
[01:36] <ryanmt> dabaR, ive read that guide and the default setup thing stuffs my xorg.conf and the  dccprobe doesnt work, and the resolution program doesnt either
[01:36] <n0odl3> does anyone know if that is true
[01:36] <erisco> anto9us, but why can't the windows network display i mean my workgroup...
[01:36] <ProN00b> totem sucks
[01:36] <n0odl3> can anyone explain please?
[01:36] <n0odl3> proN00b: get vlc
[01:36] <nickrud> ProN00b, right click a media file, properties (at the bottom) and select the open with tab
[01:36] <n0odl3> does ayone know?
[01:37] <ProN00b> i did, but totem is still default for everything
[01:37] <levander> Are there any performance improvements if you upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[01:37] <RancidLM> crimsun: is there floppy's to boot to usb
[01:37] <ProN00b> can i somehow replace all with vlc ?
[01:37] <dabaR> n0odl3: what? stop asking, we dont know why you erase your bookmarks.
[01:37] <anto9us> erisco, don't know, as long as you have 1 working share though, you're fine
[01:37] <nickrud> I had to do each separately
[01:37] <crimsun> RancidLM: there are just floppies for netboot
[01:37] <n0odl3> I didnt erase my bookmarks!
[01:37] <n0odl3> They GOT erased
[01:37] <Seveas> n0odl3: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[01:38] <anto9us> erisco, test that you can write to it and you should be able to do everything you need to
[01:38] <n0odl3> Iok
[01:38] <crimsun> RancidLM: have you checked if your motherboard has a bios update to boot from usb?
[01:38] <jareth_> Seveas: I'm clueless ;(
[01:38] <erisco> anto9us, yes i can
[01:38] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, that didn't return anything. will it autoload now?
[01:38] <erisco> anto9us, alright i will just set up that one folder on the other computer tomorrow
[01:38] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: It shouldn't return anything. Yes, it will autoload.
[01:38] <erisco> anto9us, then i can save all my work to there, and it will be good
[01:38] <Seveas> jareth_, so am i if it comes to hfs+
[01:38] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: actually it should echo "snd-es1688" back to you.
[01:38] <RancidLM> crumsun: yes.. but no update.. its a toshiba laptop.. any how.. once i get the floppy's how do i get ubuntu
[01:38] <erisco> anto9us, thanks for all your help
[01:38] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, now, incase I need to reinstall, I need to make notes as to what we did.
[01:38] <levander> Seveas: why do I hear more people refer to the mailing list than to ubuntuforums.org?  There's some reason to prefer one over the other?
[01:38] <anto9us> erisco, yes, very good, all your important files in one place to back up easily ;)
[01:39] <erisco> anto9us, i must go now
[01:39] <erisco> c ya
[01:39] <jareth_> dont's have a backup
[01:39] <flodine> can someone please tell me how to change the ubuntu logo next to application in task bar
[01:39] <avinoam> Anyone know how to set power management options in gnome?
[01:39] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: you boot from the floppies and boot the installer over the network or from other media
[01:39] <flodine> please
[01:39] <Seveas> levander, in my experience there's lots of bad advice on the forums
[01:39] <Seveas> such as their ubuntuguide worshipping...
[01:39] <levander> Seveas: yikes!!!
[01:40] <levander> Seveas: one unfortunate thing about ubuntu's ease of use is that it does attract a *lot* of newbies, maybe that's why their's bad advice on the forums
[01:40] <Kyral> Seveas, I take offense that that (the bad advice part)
[01:40] <Seveas> Kyral, don't
[01:40] <Seveas> there's lots of good things too
[01:40] <Seveas> you just need to know hoe to filter out the good bits
[01:40] <levander> Kyral: everybody's going to have a different opinion, wouldn't let it bother you
[01:40] <erUSUL> Seveas, i can tell you that in mailing list there is ubuntuguide worshipping too. At least in ubuntu-es
[01:40] <Kyral> And I'm one of them ;P
[01:41] <jesse_> ubuntuguide is useful if you dont blindly follow it
[01:41] <Kyral> New User Network for a reaon ;P
[01:41] <levander> who writes the ubuntuguide?
[01:41] <jesse_> ive never had any problems with it
[01:41] <Seveas> erUSUL, don't know -es but on ubunty-users it's not so popular
[01:41] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, can you pastebin the original command?
[01:41] <Kyral> There is a better one on the UbuntuWiki
[01:41] <Seveas> jesse_, it's written for newbies
[01:41] <Seveas> newbies follow blindly
[01:41] <levander> jesse_: I've only used it for very basic things and have never had a problem either, maybe it's 75% correct from what i hear around
[01:41] <jazzido> i'm trying to get my SiS190 NIC configured. Is there already any packaged module for it?
[01:41] <Kyral> I direct everyone to the Wiki
[01:41] <mcmimages> I am having trouble using a USB keyboard with ubuntu, anybody help
[01:42] <Seveas> Kyral, help.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <levander> Kyral: there's some active moderation of the wiki?
[01:42] <ProN00b> hmm, is there any documentation of apt ?
[01:42] <Trashcan> why is it suddenly asking me to 'log in to access UBUNTULAPTOP' when i go to places->network servers?
[01:42] <levander> ProN00b: 'man apt-get'?
[01:42] <Trashcan> suddenly as in it just started a couple of minutes ago
[01:42] <Seveas> trahbecaue you installed a smaba server on it
[01:42] <Seveas> Trashcan*
[01:42] <ProN00b> no, i don't mean how to use it, i mean how it works...
[01:42] <Trashcan> i did that two days ago
[01:43] <Trashcan> it was working 10 minutes ago
[01:43] <erUSUL> jazzido, i think that the support for the card has enter the kernel recently. if you are brave compile a vanilla 2.6.14
[01:43] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: sorry, I addressed the wrong person.
[01:43] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: the only command you need to execute is: echo "snd-es1688" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[01:43] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, that, and the one before it, that found my snd device
[01:44] <crimsun> RancidLM: you boot from the floppies and boot the installer over the network or from other media
[01:44] <erUSUL> crimsun, maybe he will need the dma and io stuff too
[01:44] <crimsun> erUSUL: he won't
[01:44] <levander> ProN00b: I just infer how it works based on the description of how to use it usually.  Not sure what you mean by 'how it works'?
[01:44] <erUSUL> crimsun, fair enough
[01:44] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: no, you only need that one lined echoed to /etc/modules
[01:44] <user_> .oO(ist ja ne menge los hier)
[01:44] <jazzido> erUSUL: ok, are there any ubuntu docs for kernel compiling?
[01:45] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, I'd still like it for reference, to educate myself
[01:45] <dabaR> crimsun: is that how you go aruond file redirection with sudo?
[01:45] <crimsun> dabaR: it's the only way with sudo.
[01:45] <Seveas> !de
[01:45] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[01:45] <dabaR> hehe
[01:45] <erUSUL> jazzido, i do not know search the wiki
[01:45] <ProN00b> levander, i mean what technology it uses internally, what exactly happens when i do apt-get update or apt-get upgrade, then what a package can do
[01:46] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: sudo modprobe snd-es1688
[01:46] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: that's essentially what you needed to do
[01:46] <Trashcan> this is sickening
[01:46] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, the rest wasn't needed?
[01:47] <Merturk_NB> crimsun, and again, thank you very much.
[01:47] <Trashcan> literally 10 minutes ago i opened places->network servers and pulled something from another computer on my lan
[01:47] <crimsun> Merturk_NB: no, it was only for testing.
[01:47] <levander> ProN00b: you're look for some pretty advanced information.  I'd be surprised if someone has written a cohesive argument about this stuff.  Maybe the first thing if you really want to know that stuff, is to try packaging something that hasn't already been packaged.  Like some software that hasn't been packaged for ubuntu.
[01:47] <dabaR> Trashcan: is it accepting the password now?
[01:47] <levander> ProN00b: build your knowledge incrementall from there.
[01:47] <Trashcan> then i go to do it again, and not only is it asking me for passwords, but i can't see any other computers
[01:47] <Trashcan> just 'windows network', and that's empty
[01:47] <nickrud> ProN00b, a while back I was interested in that. There was somewhat of a guide on the internals in the source of libapt, if I remember
[01:47] <Trashcan> i removed the samba server package and it stopped asking for a password
[01:47] <StarKruzr> Does anyone know why postfix is a dependency for mysql?
[01:47] <Trashcan> (and firewall is stopped, just in case)
[01:48] <erUSUL> jazzido, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=kernel+compiling&fullsearch=Texto
[01:48] <ProN00b> thanks, levander, nickrud
[01:48] <levander> ProN00b: you really only need to know that information if you're going to use it though ProN00b.  Once you're ready to use it, read the user documentation.  Using it, the internals will slowly start to make sense.
[01:49] <levander> ProN00b: that's the typical way people learn stuff when there's not good documentation
[01:49] <colen> what is the default directory for files that are downloaded with the "Add Applications" option?
[01:49] <Trashcan> and now it works again
[01:49] <Trashcan> i didn't touch anything- it just works :o
[01:49] <dabaR> crimsun: so there is no way I can make my sound not be paired up, the econtext thing, that mixes up my video and audio output volumes uo>
[01:50] <crimsun> dabaR: I'm missing massive context there
[01:50] <dabaR> crimsun: Like what? It just lowers the volume in xmms when I turn down the volume in xine.
[01:51] <crimsun> dabaR: I have no idea what you're asking
[01:51] <crimsun> dabaR: need some background
[01:51] <ProN00b> wtf, i don't get it, why are people still using xmms, there is bmp !!!
[01:51] <levander> Was anybody really impressed by anything when they updated to breezy?
[01:52] <reiki> levander: yeah... how LONG it took!  heheheh] 
[01:52] <levander> ProN00b: bmp is the name of an application?
[01:52] <esher> http://www.debianshells.de:8000
[01:52] <dabaR> thats all, I play a song in totem, and a song in xmms, and it makes my volume lower in xmms if I turn it down in totemm.
[01:52] <colen> does anyone have an answer?  I downloaded some software using the "Add Software" option, RealPlayer is now trying to install but it is asking where it was downloaded to?
[01:52] <nickrud> breezy seemed quicker, and the fonts were much better
[01:52] <dabaR> crimsun: if you have an idea what context I could give you, let me know.
[01:52] <levander> reiki: I'm thinking about skipping the upgrade to breezy, and just upgrade to whatever the next release is, I didn't see anything interesting in breezy that I would use
[01:52] <ProN00b> levander, its short for beep-media-player (also its package name), but i was impressed updating to breezy... from windows ! ^___^
[01:52] <levander> nickrud: oh, quicker is interesting
[01:53] <crimsun> dabaR: oh, I see. No, we haven't quite gotten there yet.
[01:53] <levander> nickrud: it's funny they improved the fonts again.  I remember that was a big improvement in hoary over warty, fonts.
[01:53] <crimsun> dabaR: however -- are you using the software volume control in XMMS?
[01:53] <reiki> levander: not sure what you're missing by skipping the upgrade. I'm enjoying Ubuntu and figured I'd upgrade when releases are out
[01:53] <nickrud> levander, now, I went from a late (and somewhat hand mangled) breezy preview to breezy final. ymmv
[01:53] <crimsun> dabaR: alsa plugin preferences
[01:53] <agt> !ntfs
[01:53] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:54] <Dotrig> hi What is the pass for ubuntu root ?.
[01:54] <Seveas> !tell Dotrig about root
[01:54] <nickrud> but the fonts, well, I rebooted back to a hoary install to check. They did look much nicer.
[01:54] <reiki> Dotrig: there ain't one unless you set one
[01:54] <levander> okay, thanks guys, i'll probably get the itch to upgrade to breezy in the next month or so, even though i'm not sure there's much reason for me to
[01:54] <dabaR> crimsun: pcm is connected to xine volume bar
[01:54] <Seveas> levander, there is
[01:54] <Seveas> breezy rocks
[01:54] <erUSUL> !tell Dotrig about sudo
[01:55] <levander> Seveas: you can be more specific than 'rocks'?
[01:55] <Seveas> newer gnome, better hardware support
[01:55] <Seveas> (to name a few)
[01:55] <Seveas> gcc4, glibc 2.3.5
[01:55] <levander> Seveas: all my hardware's already supported, not sure what a newer gnome would get me
[01:55] <ProN00b> levander, upgrading is not a big thing... took me only an hour (ok, two, but only because i forgot backing up the xorg.conf for my dual screens)
[01:55] <Seveas> levander, GUI for all sorts of administration tasks
[01:55] <nickrud> I do like the new nautilus spacial list view a lot
[01:56] <crimsun> dabaR: then perhaps totem should be taught to use a software volume mixer, but that's beside the point currently
[01:56] <levander> ProN00b: ah, that's a good tip, I am worried about my X config when I upgrade.
[01:56] <dabaR> crimsun: I se where it is set up in xine
[01:56] <Seveas> levander, manually tweaked?
[01:56] <crimsun> dabaR: per-applicant volumes are on the horizon
[01:56] <moonbird> dabaR: this might help... apt-get will not work, it gives me a permission denied error
[01:56] <levander> Seveas: I don't remember if I had to or not
[01:56] <nickrud> crimsun, jupiter sized or moon sized horizon :)
[01:56] <reiki> moonbird, tried sudo apt-get ?
[01:56] <ProN00b> i thought breezy would set up my dualscreens for me, but naah, it didn't
[01:56] <Seveas> levander, anyway, nothing a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg can't solve :)
[01:56] <levander> Seveas: but one time I did have to completely redo the reinstall because X didn't install correctly and couldn't fix it.  Second time I did install, it worked on its own.
[01:57] <ProN00b> why doesn't it ?
[01:57] <moonbird> no
[01:57] <reiki> moonbird  try that
[01:57] <sniffton> does anybody have a workaround to install msttcorefonts on breezy?
[01:57] <moonbird> I want to get opera, how would i do that?
[01:57] <moonbird> using sudo apt-get
[01:57] <Seveas> sniffton, apt-get install msttcorefonts
[01:57] <levander> Seveas: Not for me, I did that dpkg-reconfigure twenty times and it didn't work.  Something about a complete re-install did it.
[01:57] <Seveas> moonbird, not
[01:57] <reiki> moonbird sudo apt-get install opera
[01:57] <Seveas> opera is not in a repository...
[01:57] <dabaR> crimsun: can I decouple xine volume bar from pcm?
[01:57] <ProN00b> moonbird, you wouldn't want to do that, opera is evil !!!
[01:58] <erUSUL> levander, ProN00b my xorg was manually tweaked and it is still whith me after the upgrade not problems
[01:58] <sniffton> seveas - no dice.  says it's not available but referred to by another package.
[01:58] <Dotrig> How i config the bittorrent ports in the bt client?.
[01:58] <erUSUL> no*
[01:58] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, wondering if someone can help...  I just tried compiling some java and it told me that it couldnt resolve a symbol, that symbol being java.io haha, if anyone knows anything please help
[01:58] <moonbird> sure, just trying to see if firefox is my problem
[01:58] <moonbird> thanks
[01:58] <crimsun> dabaR: there's probably a config option for it.
[01:58] <Seveas> sniffton, enable multiverse
[01:58] <ProN00b> erUSUL, i formatet and backed up /home
[01:58] <Seveas> !tell sniffton about sources
[01:58] <levander> Seveas: gui's for admin tasks in breezy is interesting, i would like to see that, that's a pretty good reason for my personally purposes
[01:58] <reiki> moonbird you might want to get epipahny-browser instead
[01:58] <reiki> :)
[01:58] <dabaR> crimsun: I see it, what can I change it to, it says, alsa mixer device: PCM.
[01:58] <reiki> if I spell it right... epiphany
[01:59] <ProN00b> format and backing up /home is superior to upgrade ^^
[01:59] <Seveas> no reiki, you spell it kazehakaze :)
[01:59] <erUSUL> WebLOCH, jsdk or with gcj
[01:59] <Seveas> ProN00b, bullshit
[01:59] <erUSUL> ?
[01:59] <reiki> Seveas, hehehe... ok
[01:59] <crimsun> dabaR: experiment with a softvol definition for ~/.asoundrc
[01:59] <ProN00b> Seveas, in my case it is, i like a really clean system
[01:59] <erUSUL> ProN00b, i installed warty and made to upgrades whithout problems
[02:00] <Seveas> ProN00b, then use debfoster
[02:00] <ProN00b> its not about problems
[02:00] <dabaR> seriously?
[02:00] <cevizoglu> anyone seen sabdfl?
[02:00] <moonbird> it says that it can't stat source package list
[02:00] <cevizoglu> hehe
[02:00] <Seveas> reinstall is not cleaner than upgrade
[02:00] <ProN00b> i bet you could update from debian sarge to breezy without "problems" but its not clean
[02:00] <Seveas> Ubuntu is not windoes..
[02:00] <crimsun> cevizoglu: he's at UBZ, why?
[02:00] <erUSUL> ProN00b, well without unsolvable problems
[02:00] <erUSUL> to --> two
[02:00] <sniffton> seveas - many thanks - for some reason my sources.list didn't have the multiverse repository.
[02:00] <cevizoglu> crimsun, I didn't realize he logs in here at times  :)
[02:01] <crimsun> cevizoglu: yes, he does
[02:01] <hyphenated> is it possible to enable scsi emulation for IDE cdroms in breezy?
[02:01] <Hoxzer> aargh what repo has w32codecs?
[02:01] <hyphenated> I tried the instructions for hoary, but they didn't work for me in breezy
[02:01] <erUSUL> ProN00b, clean? what do you mean by that? old files left behind? don't think so
[02:01] <ProN00b> Seveas, there is stuff that gets left behind, and settings that don't need to be kept, its better to reinstall if you are a powern00b
[02:02] <Hoxzer> haaah, Found .deb :D
[02:02] <Seveas> ProN00b, stuff left behind -> debfoster
[02:02] <ProN00b> erUSUL, even when apt-get removing packages sometimes stuff stays
[02:02] <Seveas> settings don't need to be kept -> debconf handles that
[02:02] <Seveas> ProN00b, 3rd time: debfoster
[02:02] <Octane> i hate how media in linux sucks, especially for people with an amd64
[02:02] <Octane> its not fair.
[02:02] <Octane> NOT FAIR!
[02:03] <Seveas> Octane, don't blame it on Ubuntu
[02:03] <moonbird> sudo apt-get also does not work. any thoughts?
[02:03] <bmk789> has anyone setup the new version of skype successfully?
[02:03] <erUSUL> ProN00b, you get this things sorted out during upgrade. You choose what configuration files you keep and the ones you crush with newer versions
[02:03] <Octane> Seveas: i know
[02:03] <ProN00b> -_-
[02:03] <Octane> Seveas: im talking about real player and flash most specifically
[02:03] <Seveas> yeah they suck
[02:04] <ProN00b> you should do the upgrade then do a df write down the number, then format and reinstall, then compare
[02:04] <hyphenated> Octane: those are entirely at the whim of the proprietary vendors
[02:04] <Seveas> ProN00b, uncomparable
[02:04] <ProN00b> lol
[02:04] <Seveas> I change settings all over the place
[02:04] <ProN00b> yeah, thats what i am talking about
[02:04] <Octane> hyphenated: i know that
[02:04] <Seveas> and I like to keep my logs
[02:04] <Seveas> etc...
[02:04] <Kender> Hello, I'm having issues installing Breezy Badger from a properly imaged CD on an older computer (K6 200 MHz, 64 MB ram). It will boot from the CD get as far as telling it's about to start partitioning and then it freezes up. I can't find whether there are system requirement issues, though I'd think any issues like that would either come up before installation or when I try to run GNOME...
[02:04] <Kender> ...after installation. Any ideas?
[02:05] <bmk789> get a better machine?
[02:05] <Kender> Have one, or else I wouldn't be on here
[02:05] <bmk789> do a server install and add gnome?
[02:05] <Seveas> 64MB ram might just be not enogh
[02:05] <HrdwrBoB> it is
[02:05] <Seveas> but the partitioner should work on it
[02:06] <HrdwrBoB> for the installer at least
[02:06] <Kender> that
[02:06] <Kender> s my thought
[02:06] <raven> how do i do net install?
[02:06] <Hoxzer> how do I fix the sound problem with .mov files?
[02:06] <Seveas> Kender, I've seen this before, try scavenging through bugzilla
[02:06] <Seveas> raven, wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[02:06] <WebLOCH> Any takes for my java problem?  I think its something to do with class paths and environment variables ?
[02:06] <sniffton> seveas - one more question - there's no /etc/fonts/local.conf in breezy and I'm trying to enable the autohinter freetype module (a la ubuntuguide.org extra fonts instruction).  is it going to break anything if I make one or does breezy handle things differently altogether?
[02:07] <Seveas> sniffton, first off: ubuntuguide sucks, use help.ubuntu.com
[02:07] <Seveas> don't know about fonts though, never messed with that
[02:08] <erUSUL> WebLOCH, well then set them properly in your bashrc or bash_profile
[02:08] <WebLOCH> erUSUL, I think I have, thats where the problem arises :P
[02:08] <sniffton> seveas - fair ball.  thanks anyway.
[02:08] <erUSUL> WebLOCH, using jsdk?
[02:09] <moo> anyone have a guide for suid root stuff?
[02:09] <moo> (or can explain to me something)
[02:09] <erUSUL> moo, ask
[02:09] <hyphenated> moo: possibly. just ask
[02:09] <Hoxzer> where synapic downloads the files before installing them?
[02:10] <WebLOCH> erUSUL, using the JDK yessir, possibly blackdown
[02:10] <moo> k, i need to run cedega as root
[02:10] <necator> whats a good p2p client for linux?
[02:10] <WebLOCH> erUSUL, which I believe is SUNs modified slightly
[02:10] <Kyral> Hoxzer, somewhere in the /var/cache
[02:10] <Seveas> moo, no you don't
[02:10] <Seveas> NEVER run cedega as root
[02:10] <moo> yeah, if i run it as a user it wont work
[02:10] <erUSUL> moo, use sudo
[02:10] <moo> it stalls in game
[02:10] <ryanmt> hi everyone, i just installed a new soundcard and it doesnt work. anybody got any ideas?
[02:10] <moo> i dont wanna type my password everytime to get into a game..
[02:10] <Seveas> and why would running as root help?
[02:10] <moo> i dunno but it does
[02:10] <necator> seveas what is cedega? sorry for butting into conversation.
[02:10] <Boobek> gn/jo8
[02:11] <moo> cedega is a commercial wine version for games
[02:11] <hyphenated> necator: it used to be called winex
[02:11] <Seveas> necator, it's an app to run windows programs on linux
[02:11] <moo> used to be called winex
[02:11] <necator> ryanmt is the soundcard pushed down all the way?
[02:11] <erUSUL> WebLOCH, well if the env vars are set correctly i do not know what the problem can be :(
[02:11] <necator> seveas any windows program?
[02:11] <moo> most of em
[02:11] <necator> games too?
[02:11] <ryanmt> yup, its picking it up i think just not playing sound
[02:11] <Seveas> necator, designed to support games
[02:11] <necator> seveas and regular apps that arent games too or just games ?
[02:11] <erUSUL> ryanmt, model of the card?
[02:12] <Seveas> regular apps too, but not all of them
[02:12] <ryanmt> soundblaster audigy
[02:12] <necator> seveas well i am new to linux first time using it am a windows user so i will look into this cedega it may be very useful to me :p
[02:12] <WebLOCH> erUSUL, thanks for trying anyway :)
[02:12] <hyphenated> necator: their focus is on making games work. as a side-effect, some other applications will work fine too
[02:12] <Seveas> necator, neh
[02:12] <Seveas> better find real linux applications
[02:12] <dm> hey guys can someone tell me the repositories link , had to reinstall AGAI
[02:12] <dm> anyone?
[02:12] <erUSUL> necator, maybe the regular wine works better with regular apps
[02:13] <necator> seveas so far i have been but there is games i play and would like to be able to use them on linux so i will probally ifnd use for the program.
[02:13] <necator> erusul wine is similiar to this cedega?
[02:13] <Seveas> !repos
[02:13] <moo> cedega costs money i reccomend using wine
[02:13] <Seveas> !repositories
[02:13] <moo> its not as perfect on games but it can still handle most
 How to add repositories:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:13] <moo> and windows apps will work the same as cedega more or less
[02:13] <necator> moo how much did you pay for cedega?
[02:13] <Belutz> raid is not working :(
[02:13] <ryanmt> anybody got any ideas then?
[02:13] <Seveas> f*ing bot...
[02:13] <moo> 15 for three months
[02:13] <erUSUL> ryanmt, audigy 1 or 2?
[02:13] <moo> 15$ minimum
[02:13] <moo> you can also dl the cvs for free and compile it
[02:13] <necator> moo is there no free version?
[02:14] <moo> the free version lacks some copy protection shit
[02:14] <ryanmt> not sure, 2 i would expect its quite new, its only the base spec one.. ls i think
[02:14] <remyforbes777> do you set your card statically in the interfaces file?
[02:14] <moo> maybe a few other features
[02:14] <moonbird> ok, one of you guys has got to be able to help me.  I can ping the DSL modem, google.com, etc.  i can wget and IRC chat(obviously). But i can't sudo-apt get or use firefox. Please any ideas? I don't want to go back to windows...
[02:14] <moonbird> sudo apt-get
[02:14] <erUSUL> ryanmt, run alsamixer maybe you have the channels muted
[02:14] <zyth> Cedega doesn't just 'Run Windows Apps', it's for games.  Anything else is hit or miss, and they have specific games they support and others they don't.
[02:14] <Seveas> moonbird, what's the error in FFOX?
[02:14] <RancidLM> crumsun: i got the debian net boot floopy's but how do i get ubuntu using em?
[02:14] <moonbird> time out
[02:14] <moonbird> connecting to server..... and then nothing
[02:14] <Seveas> connect timeout or hostname lookup timeout?
[02:14] <Seveas> ah
[02:15] <ubenguin> hello all...can anyone tell me how to make a program prompt for sudo when I click it's icon in the menu?
[02:15] <Seveas> ubenguin, which program?
[02:15] <anto9us> ubenguin, gksudo
[02:15] <ProN00b> someone should steal cedega code back and put it into wine
[02:15] <dm> hey guys can someone tell me the repositories link , had to reinstall AGAI
[02:15] <erUSUL> ubenguin, put gksudo <comand>
[02:15] <ubenguin> aahh...I was close; couldn't remember ;0
[02:15] <ryanmt> nope doesnt seem to me erUSUL its got "Volume Control: CA0106" aswell so i guess its found the card
[02:15] <Kyral> ProN00b, nooo
[02:15] <Kyral> bad....
 How to add repositories:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:15] <ubenguin> thanks guys
[02:15] <zyth> ProN00b: um. rotfl.
[02:15] <Seveas> ^-- dm
[02:15] <ProN00b> yeees, Kyral
[02:15] <dm> thanks
[02:15] <zyth> ProN00b: Wine works just fine for World of Warcraft anyways, and who care about anything else?
[02:16] <ProN00b> normal apt-get wine works on wow ?
[02:16] <Seveas> :)
[02:16] <zyth> ProN00b: I used winehq's .debs.
[02:16] <zyth> worked fine.
[02:16] <nickrud> ooh, source-o-matic!
[02:16] <moonbird> seveas: any ideas?
[02:16] <remyforbes777> isnt the interface file the file you would set the nic with a static IP
[02:16] <erUSUL> ryanmt, so the card got detected and the chanels are not muted but still no sound, right?
[02:16] <moo> ok so when i run cedega as a user it locks and i have to kill X, when i run it as root it works fine
[02:17] <moo> any ideas why?
[02:17] <ryanmt> yup
[02:17] <moo> or can someone tell me how to run it as suid root
[02:17] <ryanmt> xmms has an error saying it couldnt open audio
[02:17] <yodabunny> hello
[02:17] <zyth> moo: you've got something configured wrong most likely...  I'd not recommend running it suid.
[02:17] <erUSUL> ryanmt, what output pulgin is xmms using? alsa or esd?
[02:18] <yodabunny> I can't get themes to work in firefox, any ideas?  they don't even download
[02:18] <moo> zyth: yeah, thats why im here, i dont know what is configured wrong
[02:18] <erUSUL> ryanmt, plugin*
[02:18] <ubenguin> sounds like you're trying to download themes not compatible with your version of firefox
[02:18] <zyth> moo: did you pay for cedega? just download their .deb and install it..
[02:18] <moo> i did
[02:18] <moo> dpkg -i
[02:19] <moo> it works as root but not as a user
[02:19] <yodabunny> hmmm, I tried to download ubuntu related themes for firefox 1.0
[02:19] <ProN00b> lol
[02:19] <zyth> moo: have you tried point2play?
[02:19] <ProN00b> there is a cedega deb ?
[02:19] <zyth> ProN00b: if you subscribe, yes
[02:20] <ubenguin> ..I've not installed that package, I installed themes from firefox site, so I can't offer any advice on that really
[02:20] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, it seems that the PATH variable gets played with in several files, which is the correct file to edit it under?
[02:20] <ryanmt> ive tried them all erUSUL it doesnt work with any, the error doesnt pop up with esound though
[02:20] <yodabunny> I tried quite a few, trying to make firefox look the same for my gf as it does in windows so she's comfortable
[02:20] <sizzam> can cedega replace wine for everything, or it it made just for games
[02:20] <erUSUL> moo, chmod +s [cedega binary]  (use at your own risk)
[02:20] <zyth> sizzam: games.
[02:21] <sizzam> k
[02:21] <ubenguin> only thing I can tell you, and the only probelm I've ever encountered is trying to install thems not compatible with my version of firefox...
[02:21] <moo> erUSUL: it executes fine the game just locks
[02:21] <ProN00b> cedega has not much to do with oss, zyth, its rather a bad example how oss can be abused by gay capitalists if put under a wrong license
[02:21] <ubenguin> it will usually not even let you download if the versions don't match
[02:21] <moo> whereas with root i can get all the way in and the game runs
[02:21] <ubenguin> ...and just because it's ubuntu related them doesn't mean they're the same version
[02:21] <erUSUL> ryanmt, try 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/phone.wav'
[02:21] <WebLOCH> erUSUL, which file do you edit to alter your path ?
[02:22] <ubenguin> ...for example the theme could be fore firefox 1.03 or earlier and you're using 1.07
[02:22] <erUSUL> moo, the coman i gave is for make the cedega binary suid as you wanted
[02:22] <zyth> ProN00b: then don't use their changes, use plain Wine, and support that project instead of pirating Cedega and not helping Wine at all.
[02:22] <moo> o ok
[02:22] <moo> i read s as x :p
[02:22] <yodabunny> It says it's for firefox 1.0
[02:22] <ProN00b> zyth, i am helping wine by using it ?
[02:22] <ubenguin> well...that's your prob
[02:22] <erUSUL> WebLOCH, export PATH=$PATH:/new/dir
[02:22] <ProN00b> -_-
[02:22] <byron> hey any 1 wana help a ubuntu newbie?
[02:22] <ryanmt> nothing erUSUL  :(
[02:22] <zyth> ProN00b: sure, if you submit bug reports, etc.. it IS alpha software.
[02:23] <bmk789> anyone here use MythTV?
[02:23] <WebLOCH> erUSUL, whenever I try that it doenst hold after I reboot or log out or close the console
[02:23] <WebLOCH> erUSUL, to create the JAVA_HOME variable I had to edit bash.bashrc
[02:23] <ubenguin> not all themes are kept up to date with the latest versions of firefox...you need one compatible with your version..
[02:23] <Merturk_NB> cool, my ethernet is plug and play
[02:23] <yodabunny> ok, I'll keep looking.
[02:23] <anto9us> byron, just ask your question, if someone can help, they probably will
[02:23] <Merturk_NB> :-D
[02:23] <WebLOCH> yodabunny, you can upgrade firefox to epiphany tho, which would help a lot !
[02:23] <ubenguin> ..if you're up to date it should be 1.0.0, you can check by clicking help -> about in firefox
[02:23] <moo> cool well, setting cedega +s makes it work for my user now
[02:23] <ubenguin> ...oops I meant 1.0.7
[02:23] <erUSUL> WebLOCH, , do the same for the path var, put the export in bashrc
[02:23] <moo> so thanks
[02:24] <nekohayo> anyone knows how to use wildcards for search & replace in bluefish?
[02:24] <WebLOCH> erUSUL, I wasnt sure if it was okay to do that without it affecting other places that contrain the PATH variable, like profile
[02:24] <byron> i've just installed ubuntu hoary 5.04  and need to know how to install software that i have downloaded to my desktop
[02:24] <erUSUL> ryanmt, what error did the comand give you (use pastebin if it is long)
[02:24] <anto9us> byron, what programs?
[02:25] <nekohayo> byron: why not breezy?
[02:25] <ryanmt> it didnt, it said it was playing the file
[02:25] <nekohayo> (curious)
[02:25] <erUSUL> WebLOCH, no problem in doing this
[02:25] <necator> i am working my awy thru the ubuntu starter guide and i made it ot the section nNetworking Utilities
[02:25] <necator> theres a topic called how do i install a firewall? I am wondering if i actually need a firewall on ubuntu?
[02:25] <byron> heh well my connections not fast enuf to download it... i wana get used to this b4 i download brezzy (as i already had it on cd)
[02:26] <WebLOCH> erUSUL, if this works ill give you your very own megabyte of space on my computer
[02:26] <WebLOCH> erUSUL, ill call it USULSPACE
[02:26] <byron> well i downloaded the trial of Zend studio client  beta 5 or somthing
[02:26] <nickrud> necator, if you might want to install some servers from universe (for local use), having a firewall in place can be useful
[02:26] <anto9us> necator, no, it's built into the kernel, if you need to control it you can use firestarter
[02:26] <ubenguin> necator: it's your personal preference, if you're behing a router (which makes a pretty good firewall) I'd say it's over kill, otherwise you can never be too safe
[02:26] <erUSUL> ryanmt, then you are set. Or you have the volume muted or your headphone/speaker is no functinal or is bad attached to the card
[02:27] <necator> so should i install firestarter or no?
[02:27] <WebLOCH> erUSUL, do i need to reboot to affect the changes?
[02:27] <nickrud> yes
[02:27] <ryanmt> hmm, everything i can see was on 100%
[02:27] <WebLOCH> brb
[02:27] <erUSUL> WebLOCH, you are welcome. nice to get a whole MB for my own... ;)
[02:27] <nickrud> unless you have that router ubenguin mentioned
[02:27] <ubenguin> necator: don't take this offensively, but the fact that you're asking, I tell you yes, install it
[02:27] <RancidLM> does any one know how to install ubuntu using the debian boot disks?
[02:28] <erUSUL> WebLOCH, no just reopen the terminal emulator
[02:28] <Merturk_NB> hep everyone, I've got a wireless card not on the supported list, but it worked with another distro of linux using prism2. What are my first steps?
[02:29] <Merturk_NB> is prism 2 build in with Ubuntu?
[02:29] <necator> ubenguin i am only asking becuase i am curious since i am new to linux i was told its soppose to be very secure but i always am interested in checking everything out so i wasnt sure if i really need the firewall or not.
[02:29] <nekohayo> Merturk_NB: afaik, prism chipsets are kernel-built-in no?
[02:29] <necator> ubenguin but u are right and i will install it.
[02:30] <ubenguin> necator: I understand completely... I think you should install, yes linux is inherently more secure that most other os...
[02:30] <Seveas> necator, in windows the security is limited my the stupidness of the OS
[02:30] <nekohayo> Merturk_NB: in any case, my atheros card worked out of the box, so I guess prism should work too.. why not try a live cd?
[02:30] <Seveas> necator, in linux the security is limited my the stupidness of the user
[02:30] <Seveas> *by* not *my*
[02:30] <dooglus> RancidLM: the principles explained here should help: http://www.inittab.de/manuals/debootstrap.html
[02:30] <ubenguin> necator: but ...ya what Seveas said
[02:30] <SDFH_Linux> no plugin support yet for breezy for mplayer
[02:30] <SDFH_Linux> and java etc?
[02:30] <Merturk_NB> nekohayo, I'm not sure, that's why I'm asking. my card didn't work out of the box. in the last distro I used, I had to use a prism2 utility to activate it
[02:30] <necator> seveas lets not start a windows vs linux flame war. I actually got nothing against windows.
[02:30] <beford> can i keep my 2.6.10 custom kernel if i am going to upgrade to breezy?
[02:30] <ubenguin> necator: not to say you're stupid; we're just saying that really any os is only as secure as the admin
[02:31] <Seveas> necator, it's not a flame war, it's a sad fact
[02:31] <erUSUL> XD
[02:31] <necator> can someone tell me what the programs etherape and etherreal are for?
[02:31] <Seveas> ethereal is for network scanning
[02:31] <Merturk_NB> nekohayo, is there an interface for prism2?
[02:31] <nekohayo> a gui?
[02:31] <erUSUL> necator, sniffers
[02:31] <ubenguin> necator: google
[02:31] <Seveas> it reads the raw bytes from your net card
[02:31] <nekohayo> don't think so, but I have never looked
[02:32] <byron> Hi, i need help installing azureus and zend studio client  im VERY new to ubuntu
[02:32] <dooglus> necator: etherape shows you a diagram of which hosts are sending stuff to each other.  ethereal shows it in a table.
[02:32] <Merturk_NB> how about command based?
[02:32] <necator> ah ok so just monitors data
[02:32] <necator> dont need one of those
[02:32] <beford> hello, can i keep my current 2.6.10 custom kernel if i am going to upgrade to breezy?
[02:32] <dooglus> necator: they monitor ethernet traffic, yeah.
[02:32] <Seveas> beford, no
[02:32] <Seveas> you need a 2.6.12 kernel on breezy
[02:32] <nekohayo> Merturk_NB: maybe you could take a look at packages.ubuntu.com if that may help?
[02:33] <erUSUL> beford, yes, why not?
[02:33] <erUSUL> Seveas, why?
[02:33] <beford> dunno
[02:33] <Seveas> erUSUL, since several things in breezy rely on 2.6.12 features
[02:33] <beford> i read that breezy uses 2.6.12 kernel
[02:33] <Belutz> anyone can have raid working with VIA VT6410?
[02:33] <necator> almost done with all the starter guide im happy :p
[02:33] <beford> so i though that it was necesarry for me to upgrade
[02:33] <erUSUL> Seveas, curius to know some of this things
[02:33] <ubenguin> necator: first time installing ubuntu?
[02:34] <Seveas> erUSUL, hotplug, udev...
[02:34] <dooglus> I'd be surprised if you noticed much difference between breezy with 2.6.10 and 2.6.12
[02:34] <_TomB> anyone know a working repo for freenx?
[02:34] <dooglus> 2.6.10 doesn't support udev?
[02:34] <theconartist> im having problems trying to get things to compile
[02:34] <erUSUL> Seveas, they are supported in all 2.6 kernels afaik
[02:34] <ubenguin> be more specifig pleas conartist
[02:34] <ubenguin> specific I mean ;)
[02:34] <theconartist> i get "/usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[02:34] <theconartist> " in config.log
[02:34] <Seveas> erUSUL, but with minor differences in API/ABI
[02:35] <agt> !ipod
[02:35] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[02:35] <necator> ubenguin first time on linux completely.
[02:35] <ubenguin> necator: ahh....well; welcome to a whole new world and you picked the right distro
[02:36] <Merturk_NB> nekohayo, the only thing I found was prismstumbler
[02:36] <ubenguin> aahh...hole I mean...damn
[02:36] <Merturk_NB> that's more an airsnort then the correct module, right?
[02:36] <erUSUL> Seveas, you may be right do no know... btw i'm using custom 2.6.14 so no problems for me ;)
[02:36] <ubenguin> nevermind...;0
[02:36] <necator> ubenguin i know i did quite a bit of research before hand :p and tryed about a month ago had some drastic results so turtled back into windows world for a month b4 i tryed it again the other night. this time using ubuntu when i found out a brand new version was being released (breezy)
[02:37] <ubenguin> necator: well, I've used mandrake, gentoo, red hat, fedora, memphis, xandros...just about all of them
[02:37] <ubenguin> necator: I can honestly say ubuntu blows all of them away
[02:37] <anathema_> !faq
[02:37] <ubotu> The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation, or http://help.ubuntu.com
[02:37] <theine> !skype
[02:37] <ubotu> [skype]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:37] <beford> !fag
[02:37] <ubotu> beford: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:37] <anathema_> i dont have system-help :(
[02:38] <durt> how so ubenguin?
[02:38] <erUSUL> anathema_, use the url
[02:38] <ubenguin> necator: and one of the best things about ubuntu is the user guide and the community; I don't think any of the other distros can hold a candle to ubuntus user guide and community except for maybe gentoo
[02:38] <beford> ok, ill read the upgrade to breezy guide and skip the kernel related stuff
[02:38] <necator> ubenquin exsactly why i am here =)
[02:38] <necator> ubenquin i tryed mandrake about a month ago and well i ended up goin back to windows very fast
[02:39] <necator> ubenquin kept on doin research into diff distros and communitys and just seeing how websites were setup
[02:39] <necator> ubenquin made my choice on ubuntu and am very pleased
[02:39] <ubenguin> durt: before you come all unglued...I'm talking mainly about installation support user guide and forums, not performance etc
[02:39] <dooglus> ubenguin: there's a user guide?  where's that?
[02:39] <necator> ubenquin i am planning on making a full converstion from windows to linux soon
[02:39] <ubenguin> I guess the more apporpriate term would be FAQ
[02:40] <ubenguin> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/
[02:40] <necator> dooglus https://wiki.ubuntu.com//
[02:40] <ubenguin> but the creaters call it a starter guide so..
[02:40] <necator> and its great :p
[02:41] <chenel> hi, i have recently installed ubuntu, and my problem is getting a video player, www1.mplayerhq.hu is down so anything that wants to install w32codecs just sits there at that not being able to connect; i've installed them myself to /usr/lib/win32, however other packages (mplayer/ totem-xine) still want to try to install that, how can i get around this?
[02:41] <agt> !mount
[02:41] <ubotu> I guess mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[02:41] <durt> what is it exactly that makes ubuntu so slow?
[02:41] <ubenguin> chenel: i had the same problem..I just downloaded the tar.gz and uzipped to /usr/lib/win32...
[02:41] <Seveas> durt, sand in your motherboard
[02:41] <chenel> ubenguin, yes i did that
[02:42] <chenel> ubenguin, but it still wants to install the package w32codecs because the apt system doesn't know that i have installed it myself
[02:42] <ubenguin> chenel: then to stop apt from trying to install everytime um...somebody help me with this I think its apt-get -f ?
[02:43] <kandoora> how do i install applications using apt-get
[02:43] <chenel> ubenguin, is there no way to lie to apt and tell it you installed something?
[02:43] <theconartist> i r t3h need help
[02:43] <moonbird> First, thank you all for your help.....
[02:43] <erUSUL> kandoora, apt-get install <packagename>
[02:43] <ubenguin> chenel: oh ya..had to do that too. let me see if I can remember
[02:43] <|sam|> anybody know how to extract a .exe or .dmg file? i want the firmware for my ipod to update it
[02:43] <necator> ubenguin can i talk with you in #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[02:44] <kandoora> erUSUL, can the package name be something like kino or gimp
[02:44] <tomfitzyuk> Hey, given that I know the root account of a computer running Ubuntu, am I able to access the root account of that computer from another computer running a non-Ubuntu distribution?
[02:44] <anto9us> |sam|, tried unzip?
[02:44] <|sam|> anto9us, yup
[02:44] <nickrud> chenel, you can create an 'equivalent' package, but I don't think anything in the ubuntu repo's actually depends on w32codecs
[02:45] <moonbird> what does it mean when sudo apt-get returns the error"Couldn't stat source package list http://....."
[02:45] <anto9us> |sam|, tried file-roller?
[02:45] <chenel> yeah when i try to install mplayer or totem-xine it tries to install them
[02:45] <erUSUL> kandoora, maybe search with apt-cache search <string> you'd better use synaptic easier for primers
[02:45] <dooglus> chenel: "checkinstall" can make dummy packages for you
[02:45] <anathema_> can anyone help me with apache? just trying to figure out where the root of the webserver is and stuff...YES i have read the faq entry :)
[02:45] <ubenguin> chenel: edit /var/lib/dpkg/status
[02:45] <ubenguin> chenel: back up first of course
[02:45] <necator> moonbird uncheck the backports repositories i think that will help.
[02:45] <chenel> is there a directory that i could put the w32codecs file into so that apt-get would just use that thinking it had already downloaded it maybe?
[02:45] <durt> Seveas: everything takes a while to load and gtk apps are especially choppy. the crappy computers at school are blazing fast in comparison.
[02:45] <moonbird> sorry... i am really big time newbie
[02:46] <erUSUL> anathema_,  /var/www/
[02:46] <moonbird> in snaptic?
[02:46] <Belutz> anyone can have raid working with VIA VT6410?
[02:46] <Inchabod> When opening xmms, libjack.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:46] <theconartist> does anyone know of a breezy repo with e17?
[02:46] <Inchabod> Help?
[02:46] <necator> moonbird dont sweat it i am super noob too yes in synaptic
[02:46] <nickrud> hm, apt-cache depends totem-xine | grep codec gives nothing
[02:46] <|sam|> anto9us, no but i just had another idea, be back if it dosnt work
[02:46] <kandoora> erUSUL, but in synaptic i don't get kino or inkscape
[02:46] <erUSUL> !tell kandoora about repos
[02:46] <absent> hey
[02:47] <theconartist> !tell theconartist about repos
[02:47] <absent> if i wanted to connect to my ftp site what would be a good program to use?
[02:47] <chenel> where does apt-get download it's files to?
[02:47] <erUSUL> kandoora, you need to add repositories... read what ubotu have told you
[02:47] <absent> could i do it straight through the command line?
[02:47] <nickrud> /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:47] <dooglus> moonbird: it means you need to 'reload' again.  it's an apt bug
[02:47] <chenel> i don't even have the command check-install
[02:47] <anathema_> cool thanks erUSUL
[02:47] <chenel> thanks
[02:47] <anto9us> absent, places | connect to server
[02:47] <dooglus> chenel: install it
[02:47] <moonbird> reload?
[02:47] <ubenguin> chenel: ;)
[02:47] <absent> ty
[02:48] <concept10> May I upgrade from sarge to breezy? will this work anyone?
[02:48] <necator> moonbird refresh*
[02:48] <dooglus> moonbird: what's the button in the top left corner of synaptic?
[02:48] <moonbird> ah...
[02:48] <moonbird> :)
[02:48] <erUSUL> anathema_, you are wellcome ;)
[02:48] <necator> moonbird first time on linux?
[02:48] <moonbird> i am using terminal
[02:48] <moonbird> pretty much
[02:48] <necator> moonbird when did you install it?
[02:48] <moonbird> two days ago
[02:48] <necator> moonbird this is my first time on linux too i installed mine yesterday :p
[02:49] <necator> moonbird looks like were in the same boat on the river of progress.
[02:49] <dooglus> moonbird: in terminal, "sudo apt-get update" - that's the same as "reload" in synaptic
[02:49] <moonbird> well that is comforting
[02:49] <nickrud> chenel, do you have any unofficial repo's in your sources.list?
[02:49] <moonbird> hmm... i did that
[02:49] <moonbird> it gave me the same error
[02:49] <necator> moonbird yes comforting for me too to hear there is more like my self making the switch at the same time i am.
[02:49] <necator> moonbird got an aim sn?
[02:49] <chenel> nickrud, i might
[02:49] <absent> umm is there a way i could use somthing like putty or filezilla or winscp???
[02:49] <moonbird> aim sn?
[02:49] <Kyral> ssh, scp ;P
[02:49] <necator> moonbird aol instant messenger screen name?
[02:49] <chenel> i did what i needed to get the w32codecs package available
[02:50] <moonbird> ah....
[02:50] <chenel> but the problem is that package wants to download the file from a site that is down
[02:50] <jighead> absent: use a terminal, or nautilus, or gftp
[02:50] <nickrud> chenel, it's been a while since I used his repository, but I think marillat has xine available, that might be what's causing the dependency.
[02:50] <necator> moonbird have one?
[02:50] <moonbird> thinking....
[02:50] <ubenguin> chenel: I told you what to do man
[02:50] <absent> jighead how would i do it in a terminal???
[02:51] <moonbird> abramojure
[02:51] <ubenguin> chenel: edit /var/lib/dpkg/status and type ok for the program that is trying to install w32codecs
[02:51] <necator> moonbird is that your screen name?
[02:51] <anto9us> absent, type man ftp
[02:51] <jighead> absent: Applications->Tools->Terminal, then ftp ftp.some.site, just like in putty
[02:51] <ubenguin> chenel: apt will think everything installed correctly and will never try to install w32 again!
[02:51] <moonbird> yes
[02:51] <necator> moonbird mind if i msg u?
[02:51] <absent> oh ok
[02:51] <absent> cool
[02:51] <moonbird> no prob
[02:51] <moonbird> lem
[02:51] <dooglus> absent: better to use 'scp'
[02:52] <dooglus> absent: in a terminal, "scp user@host1:/path/to/file dir"
[02:52] <hyphenated> nautilus probably support scp://user@host/ stuff too
[02:52] <moonbird> give me one minute, its on the other computer
[02:52] <UfaOgros> see ya
[02:53] <ubenguin> chenel: where is says totem in that file, you'll see it says half complete or something like that, change it to ok
[02:53] <necator> moonbird i msged you on aim i added you also.
[02:53] <wulfy814> anyone try to install to a RAID on a 3ware 9500
[02:53] <Pyrotic> Ok.. when I do "configure" it says.. "bash: configure: command not found" what do I do?
[02:53] <wulfy814> it's hanging at the end of the install trying to install grub
[02:53] <moonbird> got it...
[02:53] <chenel> ubenguin, ok i think i got it
[02:53] <Herman> hi i have just a curiosity about the customization of default wallpaper and redistribution....
[02:53] <chenel> ubenguin, i actually just changed w32codecs to installed
[02:53] <jighead> Pyrotic: try ./configure
[02:53] <Pyrotic> ah
[02:53] <chenel> ubenguin, thank you very much
[02:53] <ubenguin> chenel: ok...that'll work too
[02:54] <ubenguin> chenel: no prob
[02:54] <Pyrotic> Doesn't work..
[02:54] <erUSUL> Pyrotic, some backgroun would help but i bet for running './configure'
[02:54] <Pyrotic> "./configure: No such file or directory
[02:54] <Herman> can i add a logo of an association of linux user to the wallpaper and redistribute with ubuntu?
[02:54] <Pyrotic> erUSUL, I'm trying to make ssh work..
[02:54] <Pyrotic> And apparently I need to configure something.. -rsh=ssh
[02:54] <Herman> anyone? thank you
[02:54] <danl> whats the command to run a process in the back ground?
[02:55] <erUSUL> Pyrotic, apt-get install ssh does not work for you?
[02:55] <Pyrotic> erUSUL, I don't know.. haven't tried that..
[02:55] <danl> i can't remember for the life of me
[02:55] <theconartist> what do you mean in the background?
[02:55] <anto9us> !tell Herman about art
[02:55] <Pyrotic> erUSUL.. that just downloaded the ssh..
[02:55] <danl> make it a background process... in other words... the process goes to background and the shell comes back
[02:56] <theine_> Who uses Seveas' repository in here?
[02:56] <erUSUL> Pyrotic, use synaptic or apt to install stuff do not compile things...
[02:56] <Agrajag> Pyrotic: no, that downloaded and installed it.
[02:56] <Pyrotic> erUSUL.. okay..
[02:56] <Herman> anto9us: thanks
[02:56] <Pyrotic> Hey thanks :D
[02:56] <erUSUL> Pyrotic, it install it. you are done sshd is running and waiting conections...
[02:56] <theconartist> danl, for example, "firefox &"
[02:57] <theconartist> youa add the " &"
[02:57] <Pyrotic> erUSUL, yea.. I noticed.. thanks
[02:57] <Pyrotic> Saved my day..
[02:57] <Agrajag> danl: also, if you're running a process in the forground and you want it to be backgrounded, hit ctrl-z and immediately run "bg"
[02:58] <Confuzzled> Whats the best alternative to Gaim?
[02:58] <erUSUL> Pyrotic, you are welcome :D
[02:58] <dodgyville> wine 0.9 for 5.10?
[02:58] <anto9us> Confuzzled, what protocol?
[02:59] <Confuzzled> no-idea <-- newb
[02:59] <danl> & did it... i wanted bluej to goto the background so i can still use console.
[02:59] <Confuzzled> its jst that gaim only very rarely works for me
[02:59] <anto9us> Confuzzled, msn, aim, icq?
[02:59] <Seveas> theine, I do :)
[02:59] <Confuzzled> lol, msn sorry
[02:59] <pord> hi there... i just tried to install ubuntu (latest version) on laptop and on installing the base system it exits with an error.. Any ideas????
[02:00] <kyrnado> confuzzled: trillian?
[02:00] <anto9us> Confuzzled, amsn seems popular
[02:00] <holycow> pord, what is the error and where does it exit?
[02:00] <danl> qnext works really well
[02:00] <Herman> anto9us: thx for the links.... my question is related to the lagoon default wallpaper...i want to distribute this specific wall with the logo of my LUG for promoting Ubuntu...i think it's possible then
[02:00] <pord> lemme juct check
[02:00] <danl> but it might be aim only
[02:01] <anto9us> Herman, yes, trademark policy seems to suggest so
[02:01] <pord> deboot or somethin in base system install.. (im not that good with linux btw)
[02:02] <Herman> anto9us: i ask because i have seen trademark policy of logo and it's ok but not the specific license of the wallpaper....do u know where i can find the license of the wallpaper?
[02:02] <Confuzzled> hmm, think aMSN is dead
[02:02] <Trash[impersonat> wtf
[02:03] <drapelyk> can someone help me get back into my Windows/Ubuntu machine?
[02:03] <anto9us> Herman, sorry, no
[02:03] <Herman> ok i'll ask to the e-mail of the trademark policy page, the link u gave me
[02:03] <Herman> thanks a lot
[02:03] <Herman> bye
[02:03] <drapelyk> anyone?
[02:03] <anto9us> yw, good luck
[02:03] <erUSUL> drapelyk, the problem being?
[02:04] <Pyrotic> How do I setup phpmyadmin on this ubuntu?
[02:04] <drapelyk> erUSUL I installed Ubuntu on a second HD on a windows machine, had a Grub dual boot.  I reformatted the second harddrive in windows and I can't get back into the computer
[02:05] <drapelyk> I need to redo my MBR right?
[02:05] <dm> Anyone know how to change the splash ( before login splash) from ubuntu to kubuntu with all the blue text?
[02:05] <TiMiDo> dm u mean gdmsetup?
[02:05] <TiMiDo> or gdmconf
[02:05] <dm> TiMiDo no the splash screen before gdm and kdm
[02:06] <erUSUL> drapelyk, yes boot whith the win cd in rescue mode and use fixmbr
[02:06] <TiMiDo> dm nano /etc/motd
[02:06] <jighead> dm: search the forums for usplash, you have to dpkg-reconfigure you linux-image after getting the xpm file in place that you want
[02:06] <drapelyk> alright, thanks bud
[02:07] <intelikey> drapelyk ntfs or fat32 ?
[02:07] <dm> Timido why did you tell me to nano that?
[02:07] <drapelyk> ntfs I believe
[02:07] <infested_maggot> can you guys name a good tool to see the network setting ?
[02:08] <Frostmourne> http://btfaq.com/natcheck.pl
[02:08] <nicholaspaul> infested_maggot: would ifconfig work?
[02:08] <intelikey> drapelyk you probably need to use the xp recovery disk.
[02:08] <anto9us> infested_maggot, ifconfig
[02:08] <erUSUL> infested_maggot, ifconfig -a
[02:08] <dm> jpatrick still there?
[02:08] <nicholaspaul> :)
[02:09] <seth_k> Anybody know about running America's Army on a second X screen?
[02:09] <infested_maggot> no, not ifconfig. let me elaborate. i have a problem with azureus. i just can`t connect to any peers (from like 3.000 of them). and i have a suspicion that it might be from network/firewall configuration
[02:10] <intelikey> drapelyk i can't really help you with that, because i don't know, but iv'e heard that the xp recovery cd has all the utilities for fixing all ntfs problems..  :)
[02:10] <drapelyk> for future reference, yes, it's on the XP recovery console
[02:10] <drapelyk> command is "fixmbr"
[02:10] <drapelyk> Thanks all
[02:11] <drapelyk> sayonara
[02:11] <Knowerrors> Hi all, anyone know if breezy extas repos are up?
[02:11] <erUSUL> infested_maggot, have you installed firewall tools? firestarter?
[02:11] <nicholaspaul> can i ever use computer names instead of ip's on the network?
[02:11] <jighead> nicholaspaul: yes, if you have a DNS server
[02:11] <infested_maggot> erUSUL: no, i didn`t
[02:12] <jighead> nicholaspaul: or set up name/ip in /etc/hosts
[02:12] <hyphenated> or if you're using samba and have it configured correctly
[02:12] <erUSUL> infested_maggot, with sudo iptables -L you can see firewall settings
[02:12] <nicholaspaul> jighead: gotcha!
[02:12] <nicholaspaul> jighead: ooo i'll have to look that up. thanks!
[02:12] <hyphenated> nicholaspaul: DNS is much easier to maintain than /etc/hosts :-)
[02:12] <Confuzzled> anyone have any clue why i cant sign-on a MSN account with Gaim, it says it can't connect
[02:13] <anto9us> nicholaspaul, a local dns server or edit /etc/hosts
[02:13] <infested_maggot> erUSUL: there are no rules in iptable ..
[02:13] <hyphenated> concept10: the gaim guys might
[02:13] <Confuzzled> it works somwtimes, but not very often
[02:13] <hyphenated> oops, that was for Confuzzled
[02:13] <nicholaspaul> thanks guys!
[02:13] <pord> ok i get error on install... i do the partitions with 9gig as / and 500meg as swap (also have windows on first 2 partitions). It then goes onto the base system install and at about 29% in it goes red giving the error: debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1). Can some1 help plz
[02:13] <nicholaspaul> jighead: wth do i put in 'hosts' ?
[02:13] <erUSUL> infested_maggot, then there is not a firewall problem. one problem dicarted x to go ;)
[02:14] <WoundUp> infested_maggot: what does ifconfig say for your inet addr?
[02:14] <WoundUp> if 10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x you are behind a NAT router adn inbiouind connections won't work until that router is configured
[02:15] <erUSUL> pord, maybe it is a corrupted cd you are using...
[02:15] <infested_maggot> WoundUp:  inet addr:192.168.10.2  Bcast:192.168.10.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[02:15] <pord> dang.. will rip another one then wont take 2mins to download :D
[02:15] <jighead> nicholaspaul: the format is ip fqdn commonname alias, like: 192.168.0.1 test1.test.com test1
[02:15] <jighead> nicholaspaul: man hosts for more details
[02:16] <erUSUL> infested_maggot, WoundUp is right you need to configure your router to do NAT of the bittorrents ports to your machine's ip
[02:16] <WoundUp> you should be able to make the outbound connections.  but inbound won't worek, so bittiorrnet will seriously limit your bandwidth - bittorrent wants you to share.
[02:16] <infested_maggot> WoundUp: i know i`m behid a firewall, but i have port 10005 to 10010 routed to me
[02:16] <nicholaspaul> jighead: whats fqdn?
[02:16] <infested_maggot> WoundUp: and i`m using 10007 for azureus
[02:16] <necator> is crossoveroffice and wine the same thing>?
[02:16] <jighead> nicholaspaul: fully qualified domain name
[02:16] <nicholaspaul> jighead: i know ip and the commonname..
[02:17] <jighead> if you are on a private network, you won't need the fqdn
[02:17] <intelikey> pord if you boot expert mode on the cd you have the option to test the media before you start to install anything.   option is near the bottom of the list of options.
[02:17] <erUSUL> necator, yes and no cedega and crossover are derivatives of wine
[02:17] <nicholaspaul> jighead:  yea its just on my private network.
[02:17] <pord> ty intel
[02:17] <necator> so which one is the main one crossover or wine?
[02:17] <nicholaspaul> i'll have a play first, jighead ! thanks mate
[02:18] <jighead> nicholaspaul: np
[02:18] <dooglus> do you need to reboot after editing /etc/hosts?
[02:18] <tescoil> Accustomed to having a root account and using su all the time.  Transition to sudo is screwing me up because I keep typing my old root password.  Is there any way to make sudo respond only to my old root password instead?
[02:18] <erUSUL> necator, wine is the root of the other two
[02:18] <WoundUp> my setup to allow bittorrent shows ports 6881 thru 6999 allowed.
[02:18] <jighead> dooglus: no
[02:18] <necator> is wine free because crossover is like 40 bucks..
[02:19] <xandor> Yes.
[02:19] <pord> wine is but wineX isnt i think
[02:19] <dooglus> jighead: that's what I thought.  but about a week ago I added a line to /etc/hosts and it didn't take effect immediately.
[02:19] <intelikey> dooglus this is linux you only need to reboot after installing a new kernel
[02:19] <erUSUL> tescoil, use your old root pass as pass for your main user
[02:19] <xandor> wineX is not.
[02:19] <necator> can you give me a link to wine and cedega?
[02:19] <xandor> Cedega is winex. It costs money.
[02:19] <erUSUL> necator, wine is free the others no
[02:19] <xandor> winehq.org
[02:19] <xandor> transgaming.net
[02:19] <tescoil> erUSUL: Well, I wanted to divide the passwords.
[02:19] <necator> transgamging is cedega? and winhq is wine main site?
[02:19] <durt> winex is free from cvs
[02:19] <necator> cvs?
[02:19] <xandor> Yes.
[02:20] <dm> Anyone know if opera is apt-get - able :P ?
[02:20] <dm> if so what repo?
[02:20] <xandor> No clue.
[02:20] <erUSUL> tescoil, you have to investigate how sudo works, it uses the users pass not a "privileged" pass
[02:20] <durt> just get the debian sid packages from opera .com
[02:20] <intelikey> dm  "apt-cache search <blah>"
[02:20] <Loevborg> Does anyone know a simple (no configuration) http proxy ?
[02:21] <Loevborg> dm, there's a repository somewhere, yes
[02:21] <xandor> lovborg: https://www2.ft888.net
[02:21] <Loevborg> dm, you're probably better off just downloading the .deb tho
[02:21] <ramezhanna> i have a sonicwall sending its logs to a fedoa box, i want syslog to redirect sonicwall logs to a file other than messages, how?
[02:21] <tescoil> dm: go to opera's site and get the ubuntu package and use dpkg -i
[02:21] <xandor> scroll down and there is a text box to but the address in.
[02:21] <durt> dm, the ubuntu opera package has dependency problems; get the debian one
[02:22] <tescoil> dm: I just went through this.  it's a couple little hacks to get to work.
[02:22] <dm> yeah i see it now
[02:22] <dm> anyone know how to change the splash screen before kdm loads ?
[02:22] <dm> the one that has everything loading, etc
[02:22] <Loevborg> xandor, heh thanks
[02:22] <hawking> Does anyone know how I can change my keyboard settings?
[02:23] <hawking> through command line
[02:23] <xandor> Sure thing.
[02:23] <Loevborg> xandor, was looking for a daemon
[02:23] <intelikey> that is the kdm splash.
[02:23] <xandor> I use it at school all the time... ;)
[02:23] <xandor> Oh.
[02:23] <xandor> Sorry.
[02:23] <dm> intelikey mine still shows "ubuntu" with brown text,  i dont want brown text, i want pretty blue !!
[02:23] <Loevborg> hawking, setxkbmap maybe
[02:23] <jighead> dm: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82835
[02:24] <ramezhanna> i have a sonicwall sending its logs to a fedoa box, i want syslog to redirect sonicwall logs to a file other than messages, how?
[02:24] <hawking> Loevborg: You are the coolest!!!
[02:24] <jighead> dm: then http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83009&highlight=usplash
[02:24] <tescoil> dm: also, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78468.html
[02:24] <intelikey> dm then kdm is using the ubuntu defalt splash    same as grub does i guess
[02:25] <tescoil> When I add a user, do they by default have sudo privs?
[02:26] <anto9us> tescoil, no, you have to set them
[02:26] <intelikey> tescoil no only the first user added defaults to the admin class
[02:26] <KinkoBlast> tescoil: I don't beleve so... I think you have to add them to group "admins" or simmiler
[02:26] <tescoil> good.
[02:27] <Loevborg> hawking, am I?
[02:27] <hawking> Loevborg: sure
[02:28] <dm> jighead the one i had before said kubuntu, and i apt-get something that did it , but i dont remember what ii did a apt-get on
[02:28] <KinkoBlast> Is there a way to hide a folder from other admins?
[02:29] <dooglus> KinkoBlast: you can hide folders using any rootkit
[02:29] <pord> Found the problem :D the cd was corrupt :D seems to have got further :D
[02:29] <infested_maggot> ermmm
[02:30] <Belutz> anyone can have raid working with VIA VT6410?
[02:30] <infested_maggot> any other sugestions regarding azureus?
[02:30] <xandor> What's the problem, infested?
[02:30] <infested_maggot> xandor: can`t connect to peers in azureus.
[02:30] <xandor> Is your port open?
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, #azureus-users
[02:31] <Knowerrors> any ubu users here, got a good repo for ubu specific w32codecs, java, etc?
[02:31] <infested_maggot> xandor: yes. doube and triple checked
[02:31] <pord> Oh... i have an ati card in both main pc and laptop.. any1 got any advice on drivers etc for it? As i always have trouble with my ati and linux
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> !java
[02:31] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> !w32codecs
[02:31] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).  For 64-bit read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[02:31] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: i have a hunch it`s not from azureus ...
[02:31] <NetDreamz> anyone know a site that has VHCS documentation other than vhcs.net it's down.
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, check ya nat
[02:32] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: done that. it`s fine.
[02:32] <infested_maggot> i just can`t figure it out ..
[02:32] <wickedpuppy> if nat is ok ... then your tracker is down
[02:32] <holycow> but why doesn't it work?
[02:32] <holycow> -_-
[02:32] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: i have torrents from 5 trakers. it can`t be all down ... :D
[02:32] <Octane> i think im gonna switch back to windows. amd64 support is not just where i should be
[02:33] <holycow> i guess i will just haveto be happy with my illegal copy of ubuntu
[02:33] <Octane> or maybe ill dual boot
[02:33] <pord> id say dual if anythin Oct
[02:33] <holycow> Octane, rofl
[02:33] <holycow> what are you going to do
[02:33] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, all from different sites ?
[02:33] <NetDreamz> dual boot
[02:33] <xandor> Octane, don't switch to Winbloze... X.X
[02:33] <holycow> run 32 bit windows on amd64?
[02:33] <holycow> :)
[02:33] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: yes
[02:33] <ubuntu> hi
[02:33] <Knowerrors> thx wickedpuppy
[02:33] <Octane> holycow: lol i know im screwed either way
[02:33] <holycow> its not like you have any 64 bit windows apps at all
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, nat is fine , trackers are fine ... yellow or green ? red ?
[02:34] <Jargon> so i'm trying the live CD right, I have 3 sound cards
[02:34] <Jargon> how do i select which soundcard programs use?
[02:34] <holycow> why not just run 32 bit ubuntu instead?
[02:34] <pord> i can get 64bit working fine but I only ever have issues with my Ati cards :S damn nightmare :P
[02:34] <dooglus> !skype
[02:34] <ubotu> I heard skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:34] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: green.
[02:34] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: and some of the are red
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, then everyone is fine! you are connected
[02:34] <Octane> LOL my friend is cursing me out for suggesting to change to windows
[02:34] <bmk789> pupil!
[02:35] <xandor> Octane, he's a good man.
[02:35] <xandor> Listen to him.
[02:35] <Jargon> anyone have any ideas?
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, put ya mouse over the red or green ... they will tell you the problem
[02:35] <bmk789> pupil: come to #wlan, i think i know how to fix your wireless
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> green is fine ... mine all green :P
[02:35] <pord> tbh i dual boot as when i go to lans etc i like windows for the games to run fine :D
[02:35] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: yes and no. because even i`m connected to 30 seeders for like 1 houre, i haven`t downloaded 1 k by now
[02:35] <holycow> Octane, well with windows at least you can use the ms genuine advantage program
[02:35] <xandor> Sorry, Jargon.
[02:35] <holycow> that doesn't EVEN work on linux
[02:35] <Octane> holycow: LOL
[02:35] <Jargon> cant be too difficult...in SuSE you simply change the alsa mixer
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, then they are not seeding well ... their upload must be shit ... its normal ...  i got a few torrents like that before
[02:36] <xandor> Yeah, but I've only been using Ubuntu for 2 days now.
[02:36] <xandor> Before that I had SuSe.
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> xandor, suse 10 ?
[02:36] <corza> hiya, i used a 386 installation cd but i want to upgrade it to amd64 (my cpu) how would i go about doing this?
[02:36] <xandor> 9.2..... :(
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> xandor, suse 9+ is very good ... why ?
[02:37] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: i know ur now gonna like this, but i have to say it: it works damn fine from widows :((
[02:37] <xandor> 9.2 is just behind is all.
[02:37] <pord> i obtained SuSe 9.3pro student edition free off a mate legally, quite liked it but debian was my fav. as 1st linux i got into :D
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, really ... if azureus says green .. then its nothing to do with OS
[02:37] <xandor> And my brother told me about Ubuntu.
[02:37] <corza> hiya, i used a 386 installation cd but i want to upgrade it to amd64 (my cpu) how would i go about doing this?
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> corza, reinstall
[02:38] <Nige> hey all
[02:38] <Nige> how are we
[02:38] <KinkoBlast> corza: Burn a new CD, install from that
[02:38] <Nige> :)
[02:38] <infested_maggot> ermmmm
[02:38] <xandor> Get a 64bit CD is all I can tell you.
[02:38] <corza> argh. thats buggered i would have if i had a cd lying around but i don't oh well never mind
[02:38] <corza> seeya
[02:38] <Nige> anyone know how to get my mouse scroll wheel to work :(
[02:38] <WebLOCH> I have come to admit what a complete noob i am and ask for help setting up java so that I can actually compile using the Blackdown j2sdk package that I installed, the problem i have is that the compiler complains that it "cannot resolve symbol" on "java.io" which implies it does not know where the classes are.  Please provide help in some detail if you wish to help me at all :(
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> WebLOCH, you are compiling a java program ?
[02:39] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, I was trying to yes
[02:39] <GatoLoko> hi
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> WebLOCH, pastebin ... i will try it here ... i use blackdown too
[02:39] <niels_> all: i just installed limewire on breezy... please tell me there is a way to launch it other than through the command terminal...
[02:39] <bmk789> is there a way to make an NTFS drive FAT32 without losing files?
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> niels_, you can do a shortcut
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> bmk789, no
[02:39] <pupil> anyone know  what this means with ndiswrapper ?
[02:39] <pupil> Warning: Driver for device wlan0 recommend version 18 of Wireless Extension,
[02:39] <pupil> but has been compiled with version 17, therefore some driver features
[02:39] <pupil> may not be available...
[02:40] <dducko> Applications, Internet.. is where is should be listed niels_
[02:40] <xandor> Does anyone know where to get the source for the 2.6.12-9-386 kernel?
[02:40] <Nige> you probably have an older version of ndiswrapper
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> pupil, i think the error message is obvious
[02:40] <pupil> Nige, How do I update it?
[02:40] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/410521
[02:40] <Knowerrors> anyone know when extras will be ready?  like mentioned here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70815&highlight=breezy+extras
[02:40] <Nige> apt-get update ndiswrapper :)
[02:40] <Nige> that should workd
[02:40] <niels_> wickedpuppy: i imagine creating a shortcut on breezy is not like doing so on windows?
[02:41] <niels_> dducko: nope, it ain't there
[02:41] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, I should mention, that im pretty sure its got nothing to do with the program
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> niels_, right click on the top menu bar
[02:41] <Nige> naah its easy niels_ , create an "application launcher"\
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> and create a short cut
[02:41] <durt> pupil: ndiswrapper 1.4 source is out, you can compile it, but i dont think that error message matters as long as it works
[02:41] <agt> Whats the command to format a partition as FAT32?
[02:41] <Nige> tell it the command is what ever it is that you used to luanch  it
[02:41] <niels_> wickedpuppy: "add to panel" ?
[02:41] <threeseas> pupil: It means you are using a mix of versions... you'll have better use if it wasn't mixed
[02:42] <dducko> xandor check on this page.  ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6
[02:42] <jighead> xandor: aptitude search kernel-source
[02:42] <threeseas> Oh Yeah.... I'm now wireless
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> niels_, yes
[02:43] <niels_> wickedpuppy: thanks
[02:43] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, any luck ?
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> WebLOCH,
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> i should give ya a spank
[02:44] <xandor> aptitude? Sorry, I'm still a newbie.
[02:44] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, why ?
[02:44] <threeseas> after most of the day I finally figured it out....thanks to a web page --- http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[02:44] <Nige> anyone know how to get my scroll wheel to work in ubuntu?
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> lucky this is not a java channel ... import java.io.*;
[02:44] <threeseas> pupil: see that link
[02:44] <jighead> xandor: enter that in a terminal, or use the search function in synaptic
[02:44] <pupil> thread, thanks
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> got it WebLOCH  ?
[02:45] <xandor> alright, thanks.
[02:45] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy,  haha thankfully, its not my code, i didnt spot it as i was using a copy and paste example hahaha
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> and main must be public
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> sheesh
[02:45] <RancidLM> to isntall ubuntu im copying its net isntaller into my current distro's /boot/   and putting it in /boot/ubuntu   and im setting grub to point to it and load it when i select the "ubuntu installer" as my grub option.. the thing is.. its giving me a kernel panic saying it cannot mount  correctly.. im just lost... now i dunno how im ever gonna get ubuntu on this laptop with a broken cd
[02:45] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, thanks and sorry for wasting your time like a n00b
[02:46] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, do you use ANT ?
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> .... lol ... no problem .... #java next time k ? :P
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> not
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> nope
[02:46] <WebLOCH> okay
[02:46] <niels_> wickedpuppy: what am i adding? application launcher? custom apllication launcher? or run application?
[02:46] <RezDawg> Can someone help me with my thumbdrive, i put some files on the thumbdrive and tried to restart the computer and got a whole lot of I/O errors for hdsa1 and now the thumbdrive is read only and wont let me delete anything from the drive. how do i make it RW?
[02:46] <intelikey> RancidLM any dos/windows boot on that thing ?
[02:47] <xandor> Neither that aptitude search nor that link showed me the source for 2.6.12-9-386 It has to be -9-386.
[02:47] <Thunderguy> Does anyone know how to correctly configure Firestarter to handle/log events from the time I turn on my system? It seems like I have to manually run firestarter and it has a GUI interface only.
[02:47] <ubenguin> exit
[02:47] <threeseas> pupil: you probably don't have to compile ndiswrapper -- just use synaptic to get ndiswrapper-util or some such -- that's what I did a few hours ago
[02:48] <durt> RezDawg, if necessary, you can reformat it with gparted
[02:48] <RezDawg> durt: how do i go about doing that? i tried to format it in disk manger but it wouldnt
[02:49] <KinkoBlast> Is there a SubEthaEdit (mac software for multiple users editing a text file at the same time) compatable (as in, can work on those files!) editor for Ubuntu?
[02:49] <RancidLM> intelikey:  ya.. only xp though.. i was looking at loadlin but i mean i already got linux installed on another partition of the hd.. with grub on it.. i should be able to load the kernel into grub some how
[02:50] <durt> rezdawg: apt-get install gparted and play around with it
[02:50] <mahsum> selam
[02:50] <intelikey> RancidLM loadlin the installed you downloaded and put in boot/   copy it over and and boot to a command prompt then type "loadlin <kernel.name> <initrd.img-name> root=/dev/ram     the problem you are bumping into is the kernel you are loading does not have ext#fs drivers compiled in, thus it cant read /
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> niels_, if the app is in application ... then application launcher
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> if not custom application ...
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> morning Amaranth
[02:51] <RezDawg> durt:  Invalid operation gparted
[02:51] <Amaranth> it's 8:51pm here :)
[02:51] <dandelion> hello
[02:51] <pord> 1.01am :D
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> haa ... bon nuit then :P
[02:51] <durt> rezdawg: sudo gparted?
[02:52] <RezDawg> roger
[02:52] <RancidLM> intelikey: it loads the kernel.. and starts to load the ramdisk..but complains my root=  is wrong.. iv been using /dev/hda6  but im looking into it.. it looks like i should be refering it more to a ramdisk...
[02:52] <RezDawg> is it "g" or q
[02:52] <nalioth> RezDawg: g- or qt- whichever you've installed
[02:52] <niels_> wixkedpuppy: i have limewire in /opt...
[02:53] <intelikey> RancidLM it might work just to edit the boot line in grub to issue a "root=/dev/ram "
[02:53] <niels_> wickedpuppy: i have limewire in/ opt...
[02:53] <Amaranth> RancidLM: That's the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[02:53] <RezDawg> nalioth: i dont think ive intalled anything but i seem to remember seeing qtparted somewhere
[02:53] <intelikey> RancidLM you can try it cheep enough.... :)
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> niels_, then /opt/limewire/limewire ? how you run on command line ?
[02:53] <ale8one> is there a command for installing ubuntu off a live cd?
[02:54] <nalioth> RezDawg: dependin on what we are talking about m gparted may be installed by default
[02:54] <nalioth> ale8one: use livecd to download and burn install cd
[02:54] <RezDawg> nalioth:  help me with my thumbdrive, i put some files on the thumbdrive and tried to restart the computer and got a whole lot of I/O errors for hdsa1 and now the thumbdrive is read only and wont let me delete anything from the drive. how do i make it RW?
[02:54] <KinkoBlast> alebone: Or order a CD from Shipit
[02:54] <dave_> hey someone wanna help me? i can't view my windows hdd from ubuntu
[02:55] <dave_> i have tried
[02:55] <dave_> http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[02:55] <nalioth> RezDawg: have you looked at your fstab?
[02:55] <RancidLM> intelikey: im using /dev/rd/0  but ill try /dev/ram
[02:55] <ale8one> ahh, thx nalioth, i know with knoppix you can typ knoppix-installer to do it fromt he live cd
[02:55] <nalioth> dave_: first problem is; you're using ubuntuguide
[02:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dave about mountwindows
[02:55] <ale8one> was wondering if this had that incorp into the live cd option
[02:55] <Ron_o> I think I found the next ubuntu standard wallpaper: http://www.orbit1.com/dailyphotos.aspx?photoid=812
[02:55] <RezDawg> nalioth: when i looked at fstab i didnt see any usb at all
[02:56] <nalioth> ale8one: if you get the dvd, you'll have both capabilities
[02:56] <niels_> wickedpuppy: what?
[02:56] <nalioth> RezDawg: i'm not up on my automount options
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> niels_, how you run limewire on command line ?
[02:56] <jasonb_> hi after installing a package using dpkg -i, what's the conmmand to configure the newly installed app? thanks
[02:56] <dave_>  ubotu: tell dave about mountwindows
[02:57] <WebLOCH> cheers again wickedpuppy, you've saved me wasting another few hours
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> dave_, it should be tell dave_ about mountwindows ... you forgot ya own nick
[02:57] <intelikey> RancidLM yeah the initrd probably doesnt know anything about udev conventions,  always try the old school when playing with initrd systems.
[02:57] <WebLOCH> nighty all
[02:57] <RezDawg> nalioth: thanks anyway
[02:57] <nalioth> dave_: check your private messages
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> WebLOCH, eh what i did ? well nvm i take the credit :P
[02:57] <dave_> ...
[02:57] <RancidLM> intelikey:  i just got a new error.. its "kernel panic - not syncing : no init found. Try passing init= option to kernel."
[02:57] <niels_> wixkedpuppy: sorry, like this: Type 'runLime.sh' to execute
[02:57] <dave_> it pm'd me on my command so it's cool :)
[02:58] <intelikey> that would be the name of the installer RancidLM
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> niels_, wait where are you now ? custom application right ? the command to run is /opt/limewire/runlime.sh
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> change ya limewire path as you see fit
[02:58] <adam_r> I would like to run a Apache, php, perl and MySql server, where do i start?
[02:58] <Inchabod> How come I can't get limewire to work?
[02:58] <Inchabod> the rpm from the site.
[02:58] <flodine> can someone please tell me how to change the ubuntu logo next to application in task bar
[02:58] <intelikey> if you boot linux and mount loop the initrd you can look around in there for helpful info.
[02:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell adam_r about lamp
[02:58] <RezDawg> nalioth:  durl suggested i could reformat thumbdrive with gparted and i cant seemed to find gparted
[02:59] <adam_r> what about perl
[02:59] <nalioth> RezDawg: if you cant find it, install it
[02:59] <dm> anyone tell me what Debconf is?
[02:59] <niels_> wickedpuppy: i am in the add panel options... either i can choose to add "application launcher" "custom apllication launcher", etc
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> adam_r, perl -v ... should be in
[02:59] <josh43> Anyone know what package "xf86Version.h" is in?
[02:59] <RancidLM> intelikey: im just gonna try this loadlin... :S
[02:59] <flodine> some help flodine
[02:59] <JaZy84> hey guys how can i convert from a rpm to a deb
[02:59] <DreamEater> ok it says to save the file and run the script how do i save it, with a text editor or something?
[02:59] <JaZy84> ??
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> niels_, custom application
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> JaZy84, not recommended
[02:59] <josh43> brb
[02:59] <adam_r> i followed that webpage
[02:59] <adam_r> and it doesnt work for me
[03:00] <RancidLM> intelikey: will it work from xp running on fat32 ?
[03:00] <nalioth> JaZy84: what are you convering?
[03:00] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: ok. now all the torrent are red :D
[03:00] <JaZy84> well i want to get the ibm java for ppc
[03:00] <RezDawg> nalioth: when i when sudo apt-get gparted it said Invalid operation gpart
[03:00] <adam_r> firefox trys to download each page as a phtml file
[03:00] <nalioth> RezDawg: "sudo apt-get install gparted"  (or use synaptic)
[03:00] <JaZy84> the tgz for some reason using make-jpkg will not give me an *.deb as it supposed to according to walk through
[03:00] <intelikey> RancidLM yeah.   but it will probably still want the name of the installer issued as init=<installer's.name>
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, lol ... now we get serious ... check ya nat again dude ... you sure 6881 is fine ?
[03:00] <niels_> wickedpuppy: ok, now i am in custom app launcher, now what?
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> niels_, you enter the name ... limewire or anything you want
[03:00] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: Testing port 10007 ... OK !
[03:00] <JaZy84> and i saw there was an rpm so wanted to try that.
[03:00] <RancidLM> intelikey: ok..  how do i find the installer name?
[03:00] <adam_r> and i get this (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[03:00] <JaZy84> can i installl strait from rpm?
[03:00] <adam_r> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> niels_, the command to run is path/to/limewire/runlime.sh
[03:01] <wickedpuppy> adam_r, you might have apache running now ... try going to localhost ?
[03:01] <titanium_> i just downloaded a program which i would like to have run automatically when the system starts. it's just a binary, no config or installer or anything. i've placed it in my home directory. what is the easiest way to make it run on system start (not on my login, but on boot)
[03:01] <adam_r> firefox trys to download each page as a phtml file
[03:01] <infested_maggot> titanium_: make a script.sh and place it on /etc/init.d/scrip.sh
[03:02] <DreamEater> ok nalioth i have run that script, now how do i start to view the hdd's?
[03:02] <intelikey> it should be in the initrd.img file.  mount it with -o loop -t cramfs image.file mount.point/
[03:02] <JaZy84> can i installl strait from rpm?
[03:02] <DreamEater> hmm
[03:02] <nalioth> JaZy84: have you installed java-package?
[03:02] <JaZy84> yes sir
[03:02] <nalioth> DreamEater: look in /media/
[03:02] <DreamEater> k
[03:03] <intelikey> then just look in mount.point/ for the info you need.  i would have to do the same.
[03:03] <nalioth> JaZy84: i'm not sure why you had trouble with that. want sun java?
[03:03] <DreamEater> nalioth, my 80gb windows hdd is there but my 300gb ntfs one denies me access
[03:03] <niels_> wickedpuppy: did it, but... now i have a yellow diamond with a question mark in it... what is that?
[03:03] <JaZy84> either one, i just need a java vm
[03:03] <DreamEater> something about permissions
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> niels_, did you put thelogo as well ?
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> the logo
[03:04] <JaZy84> both don't support firefox plugins right ?
[03:04] <nalioth> DreamEater: modify your access with your fstab. do NOT make it read/write
[03:04] <DreamEater> k
[03:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell JaZy84 about javadeb
[03:04] <niels_> wickedpuppy: of course not... how do i put the logo as well?
[03:04] <intelikey> RancidLM patients my man.  you are trying to put a square peg in around hole. it will not be easy.   but you can do it.
[03:04] <titanium_> infested_maggot: would script.sh just be 1 line, running the file?
[03:04] <DreamEater> nalioth, how do i do that... (god im a nub) =/
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> niels_, click on the logo button ? surely you saw it just now .. its just below the command to run line
[03:05] <infested_maggot> titanium_: yes. the path to the file that you want to execute ..i think :D
[03:05] <wickedpuppy> titanium_, check the scripts there ...
[03:05] <wickedpuppy> if you are not sure
[03:05] <infested_maggot> titanium_: and make sure you make it executable by chmod
[03:05] <nalioth> DreamEater: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[03:05] <JaZy84> the instructions will be the same? just dpkg *.deb and then test and use ephany
[03:05] <DreamEater> k
[03:05] <titanium_> infested_maggot: executable to u, g, or o?
[03:06] <pord> ffs forgot how to change root password... didnt ask 4 one on install and passwd root aint working. Any1?
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> JaZy84, dpkg -i *.deb
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> titanium_, u = user , g = group , g = group
[03:06] <durt> titanium, after that do: update-rc.d script.sh defaults
[03:06] <JaZy84> ty lemme check it out
[03:06] <intelikey> u = user , G = group , g = group
[03:07] <wickedpuppy> oh eh ... lol
[03:07] <infested_maggot> :D
[03:07] <wickedpuppy> should be o = others
[03:07] <intelikey> yeah i did it backwards too ^
[03:07] <intelikey> u = user , g = group , G = group   <---- i believe that is correct syntax
[03:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pord about root
[03:08] <[Nige] > anyone got there scroll wheel on their mouse to work?
[03:08] <JaZy84> nalioth, hey that is the i386 version
[03:08] <JaZy84> i need something for the ppc
[03:08] <titanium_> ok cool, done.
[03:08] <nalioth> JaZy84: what hardware do you have/
[03:08] <_jason> [Nige] :  worked out of the box for me, what mouse/
[03:09] <nalioth> JaZy84: ah, well then
[03:09] <JaZy84> iBook g3
[03:09] <JaZy84> ppc
[03:09] <pord> ah ty
[03:09] <[Nige] > _jason, i am using a Logitech Cordless Desktop LX 700
[03:09] <lsald> JaZy84, what are you looking for
[03:09] <JaZy84> can i install from an rpm then?
[03:09] <vinux> intelikey, yo yo
[03:09] <JaZy84> java lsald
[03:09] <intelikey> _jason [Nige]  worked out of the box on this memorex ps2 wheel mouse
[03:09] <JaZy84> i'm trying to follow the wiki
[03:09] <_jason> [Nige] :  lookover: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=logitech
[03:09] <intelikey> vinux  :)
[03:09] <JaZy84> but i can't convert the tgz
[03:10] <[Nige] > okay looking now....
[03:10] <lsald> eww, that is nasty on ppc
[03:10] <intelikey> tgz == tar -xzvf <file>.tgz
[03:10] <titanium_> in my /etc/init.d/scriptname.sh file i just have 2 lines, the #bin/bash thing and the path to the binary. should i have /path/to/bin & so it runs in bg, or something else?
[03:11] <nalioth> JaZy84: i found the IBM java conversion to be seamless, did you follow the wiki.ubuntu.com/javappc howto ?
[03:11] <vinux> Hey guys am having problems with gxine playing my streaming videos. I got the win32 files in the right place. Any ideas?
[03:11] <vinux> intelikey, whatcha up to?
[03:11] <farruinn> I just printed to file from firefox, then ran ps2pdf on the *.ps file, but the text is gone, anyone know what I should do?
[03:11] <JaZy84> the ./make-dpkg ibm***.tgz will not convert to a deb..
[03:11] <pupil> threeseas, did you use stable version ,. 1.4 or 1.5rc3 ?
[03:11] <JaZy84> can i install from the rpm?
[03:12] <niels_> wickedpuppy: oh, right... let's see now... and bingo! you rock dude!
[03:12] <wickedpuppy> niels_, cheers :P
[03:12] <JaZy84> or convert the rpm to a deb?
[03:13] <utta> JaZy84, use alien to covert rpm to deb
[03:13] <intelikey> JaZy84 "man alien "
[03:13] <JaZy84> thanks
[03:13] <farruinn> JaZy84: did you try following the wiki?
[03:14] <josh43> Anyone know what package "xf86Version.h" is in?
[03:14] <JaZy84> yes.. and it doesn't work when i do the man-dpkg ibm*.tgz
[03:14] <josh43> I've tried google and synaptic search, no luck
[03:15] <threeseas> pupil: I used the version I got today thru snaptic
[03:15] <pestil> hello people. Does anybody remember which company used a black female cat as a logo? was it amiga?
[03:16] <bmk789> anyone know why some packages cont be found on my machine?  am i missing a repository?
[03:16] <intelikey> josh43 "apt-cache show `apt-cache search xorg | cut -d' ' -f1` "  might give you something on that.....
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> bmk789, which packages ?
[03:16] <bmk789> java and azereus
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> !java
[03:16] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[03:16] <TiMiDo> !tell bmk789 about javadeb
[03:16] <nalioth> JaZy84: JaZy84 that does not look like a valid comand
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> bmk789, azureus is azureus.sourceforge.net
[03:16] <bmk789> thx
[03:17] <TiMiDo> np
[03:17] <JaZy84> make-jpkg IBMJava2-SDK-142.ppc.tgz 2nd instruction after the apt-get install java-package
[03:17] <pestil> hello people. Does anybody remember which company used a black female cat as a logo? was it amiga?
[03:17] <farruinn> JaZy84: did you get java-package to install?
[03:17] <JaZy84> yes that installed with no problems
[03:17] <JaZy84> but when i run the next command
[03:17] <JaZy84> i get no deb
[03:17] <utta> !javadeb
[03:17] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[03:18] <JaZy84> i need it for ppc
[03:18] <threeseas> pupil: I can't seem to get ndiswrapper to tell me which version it is
[03:18] <farruinn> ubotu: does that apply to ppc?
[03:18] <ubotu> farruinn: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:18] <farruinn> utta: does that apply to ppc?
[03:18] <josh43> intelikey, Nothing at all about that file
[03:18] <wickedpuppy> farruinn, ubuntu is a bot
[03:18] <farruinn> wickedpuppy: I know, mistype
[03:18] <utta> farruinn, I don't know...
[03:19] <rixth> I'm having trouble writing a cron job, how can I have a job run every 10 minutes?
[03:19] <nalioth> JaZy84: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[03:20] <wickedpuppy> that would be * for all except the minute field which should be 10 ?
[03:20] <Inchabod> I got the jack driver on XMMS and I play a song and this pops up and it doesn't play it says "Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly, You have the correct output plugin, No other program is blocking the sound.
[03:20] <josh43> Anyone? The files I am missing are supposed to be in '/usr/X11R6/lib/Serve'
[03:21] <josh43> (lib/Server, sorry)
[03:21] <jighead> rixth: man 5 crontab has the time fields explained
[03:21] <wickedpuppy> josh43, inside my lib got no server
[03:22] <absent> can anyone help me with the xfire plugin for gaim?
[03:22] <rixth> */10, I see, thanks
[03:22] <josh43> wickedpuppy, Do you mind just doing a search on your system for 'xf86Version.h'
[03:23] <threeseas> pupil: synaptic installed list it as 1.1-4ubuntu2
[03:23] <nalioth> josh43: what are you trying to do?
[03:23] <mike_> hi
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> josh43, searching ... hold on
[03:24] <mike_> can someone help me with a wifi problem?
[03:24] <josh43> nalioth, Trying to get all my MX700 mouse buttons configured by using (and apparently having to compile) 'evdev'
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> josh43, nope ... not in my system
[03:24] <josh43> wickedpuppy, Thanks anyways
[03:24] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: can you help me with a jre problem pls ?
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, jre ?
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> sure ... what about it ?
[03:24] <nalioth> josh43: we dont use xf86 on hoary or breezy
[03:25] <nalioth> josh43: you might install these
[03:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell josh43 about xincludes
[03:25] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: i`ve download the lates java jre from sun. but can i convince my system to use it instead of gcj ?
[03:26] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: it apears azureus does not work with gij
[03:27] <josh43> nalioth, thanks - I dont suppose you know if it will cack if I compile it with XF86, but am running xorg?
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, whereis java ... it will tell you java location .. then you go there and ls -l java ... it should point to gcj .. change the softlink
[03:27] <anak_gukguk> i need help
[03:27] <Nihil85> hallo
[03:27] <mike_> so do i
[03:27] <nalioth> josh43: install those files ubotu sent you and try again
[03:27] <Nihil85> i need help too
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> everyone just ask
[03:27] <Linuxiac> metoo
[03:27] <anak_gukguk> ubuntu no KDE ?
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> anak_gukguk, kubuntu ...
[03:27] <Linuxiac> Ok, I am asking!
[03:27] <nalioth> anak_gukguk: install kubuntu-desktop using apt-get or synaptic
[03:28] <Ropechoborra> need help (lol xDD)
[03:28] <rixth> */15 *	* * *	rixth	scrot -q 20 /www/screen.jpg << so that should run as rixth every 15 minutes?
[03:28] <Linuxiac> OK, really, I like it... except for I don'gt have Xawtv, for my webcam... but, I am so ugly, maybe that is a GOOD THING!
[03:28] <anak_gukguk> ic
[03:29] <anak_gukguk> i just got ubuntu cd from ubuntu.com
[03:29] <[Nige] > bbl
[03:29] <anak_gukguk> kubuntu free or not?
[03:29] <rixth> anak_gukguk, yes
[03:29] <rixth> anak_gukguk, free
[03:29] <_gueb_> free
[03:29] <moo> hey how do you put the trash can on your desktop?
[03:29] <Linuxiac> Ubuntu plus KDE+Kubuntu, and it is on the mirrors!
[03:29] <anak_gukguk> mirrors? download? hiks... T_T
[03:29] <pupil> how do I check the system log?
[03:29] <anak_gukguk> is there any free kubuntu cd?
[03:29] <josh43> nalioth, Installed a butt-load of lib files, but no-go.. :(
[03:29] <_gueb_> who know a good programm to make gprs via bluetooth?
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> Linuxiac, xawtv is in the repo
[03:29] <Belutz> how come my boot splash is not showing? how do i enable that?
[03:29] <mike_> how do i configure my wifi card with kwifimanager?
[03:30] <Ropechoborra> Ive been trying to configure hoary at 1024x768 at 16bits... Ive tryed everithing with xorgconfig and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, the only two configuration i could reach were 640x480 and 1024x768 (8bits) ! :S Dont know why!
[03:30] <jighead> pupil: dmesg
[03:30] <_gueb_> ubuntu is like newbuntu
[03:30] <_gueb_> or?
[03:30] <Linuxiac> Yep. you can Download kubuntu. and i will look for 'repo; Is he the guy who took my car when I missed tow payments?
[03:30] <nemik> hello; sorry i know this isn't ubuntu related but i can't find any other channels about hardware. does anyone know what the best but simple fail-over router would be with two WAN ports?
[03:30] <pupil> jighead, my dmesg looks really strange
[03:30] <wickedpuppy> _gueb_, what is newbuntu ?
[03:31] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: and what am i looking for? libgcj-4.0.jar ?
[03:31] <_gueb_> nemik try astaro
[03:31] <_gueb_> astaro.org
[03:31] <WalrusU> silly question, but how do I install a .deb binary that's not available through the package system? How do I make sure it grabs dependancies?
[03:31] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, where are you now ? should be in /usr/bin
[03:31] <nemik> thank you _gueb_
[03:31] <Nihil85> so i made a mistake: i copied with the dd tool one of my hd to another, but when i reboot the system, the copied hd (wich previously had a linux OS in it) was not functional. The shell at the start say to me: "grub ERROR 2". what does it means and what can i do to not to lose all the configurations (driver, applets charged with synaptic, files, ecc)?
[03:31] <_jason> moo:  check "/apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible" in gconf editor under "system tools"
[03:31] <wickedpuppy> WalrusU, sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[03:31] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: usr/share/java
[03:31] <_gueb_> nemik, np
[03:31] <Linuxiac> apt-get xprogram-install
[03:31] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, you got sun java right ?
[03:32] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: yes.
[03:32] <jighead> infested_maggot: have you tried using java-package to create a deb?
[03:32] <moo> thansk jason
[03:32] <_jason> moo:  you're welcome
[03:32] <infested_maggot> jieter: no, i didn`t
[03:32] <Melee> Er, if anyone can help me, if I reinstall windows onto my windows partition will it fuck with my linux partition at all?
[03:32] <Nihil85> noone can help me?
[03:32] <pupil> will I have any problems if I have wireless card and ethernet card enabled?
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, where is that located ?
[03:32] <jighead> infested_maggot: if you use it it will make the sun java your first choice
[03:33] <Linuxiac> WalrusU: the Apt-get does dependancies, as a front end for dpkg
[03:33] <pupil> everytime I modprobe for my card,. It doesn't turn on
[03:33] <Melee> Hello?
[03:33] <mike_> how do i enable my wifi card/
[03:33] <mike_> ?
[03:33] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: in my home dir
[03:33] <delltony> question: is there an extension or program like gaim that allows you to view yahoo webcams and all? thats the only thing i really miss of windows
[03:33] <ale8one> Melee, it won't mess your partition up, just your boot loader
[03:33] <Linuxiac> Melee, the MBR will be wiped out, wiped over, by the Windows installer.
[03:33] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, you have installed it ??
[03:33] <Melee> So how would I fix that?
[03:34] <ale8one> or mbr i mean
[03:34] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: sure
[03:34] <RezDawg> durt: thanks i got it to reformat with gparted, had to play around with it but eventually got it, thanks.
[03:34] <ale8one> i think you can fix the mbr within ubuntu grub settings or do a repair with windows cd
[03:34] <WalrusU> thanks Linuxiac
[03:34] <agt> !samba
[03:34] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:34] <ale8one> i would google it
[03:34] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, my usr/share/java is a directory .. not bin ... you are looking for a java bin
[03:34] <Melee> just do a repair, and it'll work?
[03:34] <dm> how do i make KDM my default login GUI
[03:35] <Linuxiac> Install GRUB, AFTER the windows is linstalled, but, boot from a LIVE CD and install GRUB.
[03:35] <ale8one> i'm not sure, all i know is that it will not mess up your partitions
[03:35] <WalrusU> I don't suppose anyone knows how to grab the mouse working again after its been disconnected by accident on a ps2 port (damn annoying, win32 doesn't do it either)
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> Linuxiac, pls don't shout pls
[03:35] <Nihil85> linuxiac, you answered to me?
[03:35] <ale8one> still a linux noob myself
[03:35] <josh43> Melee, If you go the windows route, you can just run "fdisk /MBR" from any MS based command-prompt
[03:35] <DaFender> hi guys first time ever using irc and even use Ubuntu
[03:35] <WalrusU> wickedpuppy: I call those highlights myself ;)
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> ?
[03:36] <dm> how do i make KDM my default login GUI
[03:36] <jighead> infested_maggot: try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70428&highlight=java-package
[03:36] <nixuser> anybody in here ever run straight debian, 3.1?
[03:36] <nixuser> sarge
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> nixuser, why ?
[03:37] <nixuser> because it blows ubuntu away
[03:37] <josh43> WalrusU, You can't.. it's a hardware thing
[03:37] <nixuser> essentially the same thing without all the bloat
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> nixuser, thanks for the info :P
[03:37] <anto9us> nixuser, I tried it before ubuntu
[03:37] <WalrusU> nixuser, : less polish... though OSes run better without loading polish into memory
[03:37] <josh43> nixuser, Then you are in the wrong channel :P
[03:37] <nixuser> its gotten lots easier to install
[03:37] <Linuxiac> Yes, and it is almost exactly like Ubuntu, except the pre-configured options (sound, desktop prefs. and background) are not as sommth
[03:37] <nixuser> exactly
[03:38] <nixuser> ubuntu is a bloated up version of debian
[03:38] <brian> hi all
[03:38] <Nihil85> linuxiac, can't you answer me?
[03:38] <josh43> nixuser, You want no bloat, go to Gentoo
[03:38] <wickedpuppy> nixuser, how many cds does it come with ?
[03:38] <nixuser> just one, use the netinstall
[03:38] <nixuser> for broadband
[03:38] <nixuser> dialup, you will need the full cd think theres two
[03:38] <Linuxiac> Nihil85, lost in the shuffle, what is it, pls?
[03:39] <wickedpuppy> nixuser, heh ... so you are not using the install most users would use ... i would have installed from 5 cd sarge
[03:39] <Nihil85> can we talk in pvt instead of this confusionary channel?
[03:39] <pord> well nice to know my ati graphics card still have issues :P
[03:39] <anto9us> nixuser, different strokes for different folks
[03:39] <nixuser> no reason to, the netinstall works fine
[03:39] <Nihil85> i cant' even see what i wrote
[03:39] <Linuxiac> Yes, nihil85
[03:39] <DaFender> anyone know how i can put icon on taskbar like windows local area connection
[03:39] <WalrusU> I like Ubuntu for what it is, when I feel more confident about configuring stuff myself, I may move to Debian or another distro. However at the moment I have a non-functional mouse and can't even figure out how to install a downloaded .deb package ;)
[03:39] <dm> Anyone know how to make KDM default GUI when loging in ??
[03:40] <WalrusU> er... install WITH dependancies anyway
[03:40] <nixuser> yes dm, get kubuntu
[03:40] <WalrusU> dm: kubuntu is the KDE optimized distro of Ubuntu
[03:40] <Nihil85> linuxiac, can you see my pvts?
[03:40] <anto9us> DaFender, just drag it to an empty part of the panel
[03:40] <dm> nixuser i have KDE, but somehow my login screen is still the gnome login
[03:40] <pord> cant you put KDE on ubun???
[03:40] <dm> I mean my login screen ,
[03:40] <dm> heh :)
[03:40] <brian> I need to know how to get to the "universe" section of the "repository" can anyone help?
[03:40] <DaFender> ok thanks
[03:41] <josh43> pord: yep, but then you have both.. kubuntu is kde, no gnome
[03:41] <nixuser> ive never been able to install kde on ubuntu, im sure it can be done, consult google would be my first step
[03:41] <jighead> dm: update-rc.d gdm remove then update-rc.d defaults kdm
[03:41] <anto9us> !repos
[03:41] <josh43> nixuser, it's just one package that does the whole thing
[03:41] <dm> jighead i thought someone has said there was a reconfig thing
[03:41] <WalrusU> brian: in the package manual there should be a menu option for Repositories where you can add/delete what you like
[03:41] <nickrud> dm sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[03:41] <anto9us> !tell brian about repos
[03:41] <pord> but what if i like both on, i tend to use KDE normally then gnome when im in admin/dev mode :P
[03:41] <nixuser> well i dont run ubuntu, so im not sure, ill shut up
[03:41] <WalrusU> brian: Universe is there by default but disabled for the lookup
[03:41] <josh43> pord, Then either-or :P
[03:42] <Linuxiac> Nhil85 I have X-Chat: DCC up with you... ACCEPT is the right option...
[03:42] <brian> thank you
[03:42] <josh43> bbl
[03:42] <dm> jighead thanks
[03:43] <WalrusU> hmm, I'm beginning to think I'll have to track down all these dependancies manually for this downloaded deb file. That'll be a pain :)
[03:43] <Nihil85> i send a chat dcc to you, linuxian
[03:43] <Linuxiac> Nihil85, i have thewindow, and accepted, but, it shows you waiting...
[03:43] <vinux> Anybody know about VLC?
[03:44] <WalrusU> vinux: I've used it a bit in Ubuntu, have used it more in a win32 enviro...
[03:44] <downeyrus> Wooohooo
[03:45] <downeyrus> did i make it to chat
[03:45] <downeyrus> =))
[03:45] <WalrusU> downeyrus: welcome to chat. Say "LOL" at the prompt ;)
[03:45] <colen> does anyone know what dir. the "Add Programs" option uses to store downloaded files?
[03:46] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone here know what dappers goals will be?
[03:46] <downeyrus> what about Installing Nvidia Drivers
[03:46] <Lord_Maynoth> is there a page anywhere with them?
[03:46] <jighead> colen: /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:46] <nalioth> colen: apt-get uses /var/cache/apt/archives/
[03:46] <colen> thank you both very much
[03:46] <vinux> WalrusU, well I'm trying to find any video player in ubuntu 5.10 now and Gxine doesn't seem to work and vlc is giving me no picture. Says  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `WMV3'.
[03:46] <vinux> VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
[03:46] <vinux> woops sorry for long paste
[03:46] <Necator_Away> I just installed wine but I dont see it in any of my application menus...
[03:46] <Necator_Away> Did i do a bad install?
[03:46] <nixuser> vlc usually supports all codecs
[03:47] <_jason> Lord_Maynoth:  search the wiki for dapperdrake and dappergoals
[03:47] <milksteak> vinux, what codec is it?
[03:47] <milksteak> I know it doesn't play some wmv's for me
[03:47] <nixuser> proprietary ms codecs maybe not
[03:47] <nalioth> Lord_Maynoth: do you ever visit the wiki ?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperGoals
[03:47] <Necator> hey guys i just installed wine but cant find it anywhere in my applications menu where did it go?
[03:47] <vinux> milksteak, not really sure just says WMV3
[03:47] <nekostar> what was that packages that started with a d that goes through and asks if you wanna remove unused packages please?
[03:48] <nixuser> but then who wants any m$ stuff on their linux box
[03:48] <milksteak> vinux, try mplayer
[03:48] <WalrusU> vinux: getting the codecs is the hard part. There's something on the wiki about obtaining the codecs that will play wmvs. Because of the legal gray area, they're not within the package list however
[03:48] <jighead> nekostar: deb-orphan, or deborphan, search for orphan
[03:48] <DaFender>  love my new Ubuntu
[03:48] <nickrud> nekostar, debfoster
[03:48] <nixuser> im off to where i belong debian room
[03:48] <vinux> milksteak, yea yea but I'll have to compile it myself hehe. I didn't see one for ubuntu 5.10 in the pkg area
[03:48] <lsald> !tell vinux w32codecs
[03:49] <nekostar> perfect thanx nickrud
[03:49] <milksteak> vinux, it's there for me
[03:49] <nekostar> and thanx jighead
[03:49] <vinux> milksteak, let me look again
[03:49] <milksteak> but compiling stuff yourself isn't hard :P
[03:49] <utta> !tell utta w32codecs
[03:49] <WalrusU> Does anyone know how to restart the mouse daemon or something? it falls out of my ps/2 port often :/
[03:49] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: oh, ok
[03:49] <jighead> Necator: wine doesn't have a gui, there are some gui configs, but in general, you launch wine from the terminal
[03:49] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: so, after i found the .bin, what`s next ?
[03:50] <josh43> vinux, I can tell you a great source of codecs for mplayer: XBMC (easily downloadable through torrents)
[03:50] <nickrud> nalioth, do you remember the command for listing ubotu's factoids?
[03:50] <lsald> !tell utta about w32codecs
[03:50] <nekostar> (xchat:32603): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed <<-- current wierd xchat mssg >_<
[03:50] <nickrud> oh, and hi :)
[03:50] <nalioth> nickrud: there is none.
[03:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nickrud about yourself
[03:50] <vinux> josh43, cool
[03:50] <utta> lsald, Thanks
[03:50] <nickrud> ah, duh
[03:50] <nekostar> seems i get a lot of gtk-critical messages... what can i update to make sure thats as good as it can be?
[03:51] <nalioth> nekostar: does your program start?
[03:51] <Necator> jighead o no gui sounds ruff =(
[03:51] <Necator> any wine users in here?
[03:52] <josh43> Necator, I am
[03:52] <dm> What fonts do i have to install to see some text on flash based sites?
[03:52] <downeyrus> http://kaarsemaker.net/personal
[03:52] <dm> msttcorefonts?
[03:52] <downeyrus> check that out guys
[03:52] <Necator> josh43 how do i make it run stuff? :p i just installed it but i also just found out it has no gui
[03:52] <downeyrus> :))
[03:52] <josh43> dm, There is no specific font.. if nothing else it will show it to you in a font you have and break the layout
[03:52] <colen> how do I search my file system, I dont see a option in the menu for it
[03:53] <josh43> Necator, The easiest way is to try and open a .exe file, then when it asks what with; type "wine "
[03:53] <dm> josh43 i got alot of Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 83, <GEN1> line 12. these?
[03:53] <Madpilot> dm: probably the those MS core fonts
[03:53] <Necator> josh43 ah i c
[03:53] <Necator> josh43 i thought it was going ot have programs already installed on it. and that i can only access what ever it came with
[03:54] <Madpilot> gah... me type reel good tonite... :)
[03:54] <Necator> josh43 so it actually is ment to run windows programs that i have?
[03:54] <nickrud> colen, Places->Search for files
[03:54] <Lord_Maynoth> I was wanting everyons opinion on something....  How many years do you think it will be until Ubuntu becomes easy enough to use for windows morons (like me)?
[03:54] <josh43> Necator, But if you want the proper way; drop to a terminal and type "wine thing.exe"
[03:54] <Necator> josh43 does that mean i have to have windows installed some where so i can see the exe files?
[03:54] <colen> thank you nickrud, not sure how i missed that one
[03:54] <lsald> nalioth, ppc java works like a charm with an older 1.42 version
[03:54] <Necator> lord_maynoth it already is
[03:54] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, still there ? sorry was watching naruto ... eh you got to replace the soft link
[03:54] <nalioth> nekostar: one needs windows executables for wine to run
[03:54] <Madpilot> Lord_Maynoth: the answer is "right now" - unless some of your hardware isn't cooperating
[03:54] <Ropechoborra> Ive been trying to configure hoary at 1024x768 at 16bits... Ive tryed everithing with xorgconfig and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, the only two configuration i could reach were 640x480 and 1024x768 (8bits) ! :S Dont know why!
[03:55] <josh43> Necator, Pretend like it's an install of win98 inside linux.. it doesn't come with programs, but you can DL them.. some will not work, also
[03:55] <Necator> josh43 so i have a dual boot right now and i mounted my windows partition can i run the exes from there?
[03:55] <nickrud> colen, I put it on my menu bar, first thing ;)
[03:55] <Lord_Maynoth> well I would put ubuntu currently at the usability of windows 3.1 which isn't bad to me but I think it still has 2-3 years more in the oven before its ready for the masses
[03:55] <josh43> Necator, Is your windows 98 or 2k/XP?
[03:55] <Necator> josh43 xp
[03:56] <propagandhi> usability of windows 3.1???
[03:56] <Necator> josh43 does it run installer files ?
[03:56] <josh43> Necator, Ok, then  not all of them will work, but you got the right idea
[03:56] <jbrouhard> I see kdenlive is not in the ubuntu apt-get repository :(
[03:56] <colen> has anyone installed real player using the Add Applications ?
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, lol ... i got no comments ... not fit for this channel :P
[03:56] <josh43> Lord_Maynoth, You are just about to get beat, I think ;)
[03:56] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: hehe. ur watching naruto? :D which episode ?
[03:56] <colen> I can only get so far and then it can not find a file, and I have searched for it with no luck
[03:56] <nalioth> lsald: ibm musta changed things, i guess
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, 157 .. latest
[03:57] <Gigglesworth> Windows XP has the usability of Unix from 1978... commandline that is ;)
[03:57] <josh43> Necator, Yes, but again..l not all of them
[03:57] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: how is it ?
[03:57] <Lord_Maynoth> wow... cant even ready whats going on due to the massive pm's
[03:57] <Madpilot> Lord_Maynoth: I'd say Ubuntu 5.10 is at least as usable as XP - but I'm aware that I've been lucky w. hardware
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, excellent ... haaaa you gotta solve ya jre problem dude ... btw there is deb for jre and sdk .. why not just get them ?
[03:57] <propagandhi> the usability compared to MS also depends on hows window-ified you are
[03:58] <Gigglesworth> Ubuntu reminds me of the reasons I got involved with OSS in the first place.
[03:58] <josh43> Lord_Maynoth, I mean, next year Linux is going to surpass windows Vista with the UI functionality and speed
[03:58] <colen> I just completely got rid of xp and switched to linux for the first time today. loving it so far
[03:58] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: just installed the new .deb . hoepe the damn azureus will work now
[03:58] <fabsoft> hi
[03:58] <nalioth> colen: congratulations
[03:58] <colen> so far so good, have a TON of learning to do though
[03:58] <nickrud> colen, you need to download realplayer from real.com youself (sorry if you already have)
[03:58] <Madpilot> colen: welcome to the Light Side. I made the jump about seven months ago myself
[03:59] <Lord_Maynoth> so heres a question
[03:59] <propagandhi> its changing your mindset from 'a stupid monkey could use this' to 'i really would like to know HOW it does this, and how I can make it do that'
[03:59] <holycow> colen, welcome
[03:59] <colen> nickrud, I havnt, thank you for the help.
[03:59] <fabsoft> anyone know if ubuntu kernel has support for misdn modules ?
[03:59] <Lord_Maynoth> if I change my hardware with ubuntu installed to I have to reformat or will it PnP
[03:59] <nalioth> nickrud: or helix player
[03:59] <nalioth> Lord_Maynoth: what hardware?
[03:59] <josh43> Lord_Maynoth, Mostly PnP
[04:00] <nickrud> heh, I haven't tried that one for a while. Does it work now?
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, i added my new dvd player and its detected automatically ... imation
[04:00] <Lord_Maynoth> if I change my motherboard and video card for example
[04:00] <josh43> Lord_Maynoth, And when you get good enough: any and all hardware can be changed with little hiccup
[04:00] <Necator> what is cvs and/or cvs tree? i just read the term somewhere
[04:00] <josh43> Lord_Maynoth, Are you changing CPU architecture?
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> !cvs
[04:00] <Madpilot> Lord_Maynoth: the vid card would probably require reconfiguration of the drivers; not sure about the mobo
[04:01] <Lord_Maynoth> I dunno it was a hypothetical
[04:01] <fabsoft> i have a hfc-pci chipset card witch i must get it work with asterisk-chan-misdn
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> Necator, just type !cvs
[04:01] <Gigglesworth> Does any OS work well after switching the Motherboard?
[04:01] <Ins|de> hi there
[04:01] <jighead> Gigglesworth: no
[04:01] <josh43> Lord_Maynoth, If you change from pentium to AMD, it's tricky, but the rest just means swap and do a reconfig of the drivers
[04:01] <Necator> !cvs
[04:01] <ubotu> hmm... cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[04:01] <Lord_Maynoth> and can that be done via gui?
[04:01] <Ins|de> anyne here had this problem while compiling stuff with gcc? /usr/bin/ld: cannot open crt1.o: No such file or directory
[04:01] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: about that .deb what is it`s name ?
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> !javadeb
[04:02] <ubotu> hmm... javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[04:02] <mhz> hi all
[04:02] <josh43> Lord_Maynoth, Swap from pentium to amd? it /could/, but it would be a bad idea
[04:02] <Necator> josh43 i have my windows partition mounted now how can i make wine access those apps?
[04:02] <mhz> anyone with laptop here?
[04:02] <Lord_Maynoth> I just dont think the masses are ever going to learn the command line
[04:02] <nalioth> Necator: "wine /path/to/windows.exe
[04:03] <josh43> Necator, Use a terminal, navigate to the folder of your application (typically /Program Files/App), and type "wine app.exe"
[04:03] <Necator> nalioth what will that do exsactly?
[04:03] <morphix> the command line is tedious,.
[04:03] <Madpilot> Lord_Maynoth: most people don't try to switch hardware out from under an OS, most of the time...
[04:03] <ivolsa> hey guys
[04:03] <Necator> josh43 ah ok i see thanks
[04:03] <Necator> josh43 would be nice if there was some kind of gui management that organized all the windows based apps tho
[04:03] <Gigglesworth> Probably not... a good GUI is essential for mass adoption. The Linux GUI has much improved in the last few years though.
[04:03] <ivolsa> is there any place on the net that helps me with linux
[04:03] <Necator> josh43 thx again
[04:03] <holycow> for linux, just like for mac, one needs to buy hardware FOR the software
[04:03] <Lord_Maynoth> I dont reformat to change video cards in xp
[04:03] <ivolsa> i'm a newbe
[04:03] <josh43> Necator, You can make one.. just drag shortcuts into your home folder ;)
[04:03] <Gigglesworth> Ivolsa: There is a #linux channel.
[04:04] <holycow> that particularly goes for video capture cards and wireless cards
[04:04] <jighead> morphix: at first, but it is very powerful and efficient
[04:04] <josh43> Necator, yw
[04:04] <Gigglesworth> If it's general help you are looking for.
[04:04] <nickrud> I've moved my harddrive from one machine to another a few times; I just made sure to bring along the same vid card ;)
[04:04] <nalioth> Necator: say you want to run solitaire. open a terminal and type "wine /path/to/solitaire.exe"
[04:04] <Madpilot> Lord_Maynoth: AFAIK you wouldn't have to in Linux either...
[04:04] <morphix> yes but still tedious
[04:04] <ivolsa> thank you
[04:04] <nekostar> nalioth, you totally lost me here....
[04:04] <Gigglesworth> Ivolsa: But people here can probably help you too.
[04:04] <nekostar> i dont run wine or any windows programs >_<
[04:05] <josh43> morphix, I find clicking on the _ []  X on a window tedius after using mouse gestures.. it's all realative ;)
[04:05] <nalioth> nekostar: how did i lose you?
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> morphix, i find command line much more efficient ... it takes time to learn but then thats the point
[04:05] <fabsoft> anyone can say me if ubuntu linux-source has support for misdn ?
[04:05] <ivolsa> cool
[04:05] <ivolsa> thx
[04:05] <nekostar> you said something about windows programs and wine .. er i dont use either... but that error i mentioned is related to wine somehow>?
[04:06] <Necator> josh43 i dont know how to make shortcuts properly.
[04:06] <nalioth> nekostar: i was talking to Necator
[04:06] <nekostar> o
[04:06] <Necator> josh43 but i understand how to use it now thanks
[04:06] <nekostar> lol
[04:06] <nekostar> ok then sorry about that >_>
[04:06] <josh43> Necator, You can browse through the GUI, then drag an icon while holding ALT
[04:06] <nekostar> well
[04:06] <nekostar> now to test my linux kung-fu
[04:06] <Necator> ok woot thats perfect
[04:07] <josh43> Necator, You will like ubuntu the more you use it :)
[04:07] <Necator> already like it
[04:07] <Necator> goal is to remove windows completely
[04:07] <nickrud> Necator, you can also middle button drag
[04:07] <Necator> and give ubuntu my whole hdd
[04:07] <Necator> is there a list of like nifty tricks like that like making shortcuts and stuff that i can read some where?
[04:07] <Gigglesworth> Commandline is a learned skill. Once you get a handle on it, it's 10 times more efficient then clicking around in a GUI. In the time you can do "Start: Search: For files and folders... "search for panda bear"" in the Windows GUI, you could have already searched and received all results for "panda" on your Linux system.
[04:07] <josh43> nickrud, sweet, didn't know that either
[04:08] <Necator> i need a link to cedega if someone can provide that please.
[04:08] <holycow> what Gigglesworth said
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> !cedega
[04:08] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[04:08] <Necator> i think im completely done setting up my linux stuff now..
[04:08] <holycow> it sounds counterintuitive, but it is true
[04:08] <Necator> ive done everythign i can possibly thing off and now got wine installed..
[04:08] <bobesponja> about breezy and breezy-update in sources.list , can I uncomment both or do I need to chose?
[04:08] <Necator> i feel acomplished
[04:08] <josh43> Necator, It's a commercial app, you will not find the files for it here
[04:08] <nickrud> find is the one unix command that I have *never* got right, search for files is on my panel :)
[04:09] <Necator> well afk back to reading stuff thx for help peeps
[04:09] <hyphenated> nickrud: I use 'locate' instead when possible
[04:09] <josh43> nickrud: Try this: 'sudo updatedb', then 'locate file'
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> nickrud, find isn't that hard :P
[04:09] <jighead> i love find
[04:09] <Gigglesworth> On the other hand, if you're not familar with the Commandline you can get lost. But I get lost in many Windows GUIs anyways. Where do I change the quote string ('>') in Outlook? It's buried deep within the GUI. Usage is all relative.
[04:09] <nickrud> hyphenated, me also, but it seems I always want to find something I just now lost
[04:09] <hyphenated> I hate find.
[04:10] <bobesponja> anyone?
[04:10] <nickrud> with 80GB, updatedb takes longer than, In the time you can do "Start: Search: For files and folders... "search for panda bear""
[04:10] <Gigglesworth> Locate works great, if it indexes automatically ;) GNU Find is mega-powerful.
[04:10] <hyphenated> I _might_ like it if it were like every other command in the world which uses the format 'command options files/directories'
[04:10] <tescoil> What's the status of real player and mplayer on breezy?  I'm finding webpages with mixed messages?
[04:10] <hyphenated> (because you can use xargs before it)
[04:10] <nickrud> I miss the old gnome1 gnome-find, it could do it all
[04:10] <nekostar> tescoil, realplayer is truely free
[04:11] <nekostar> :)
[04:11] <Earthen> can someone help with removing a program
[04:11] <hyphenated> didn't they rename it helix or somesuch?
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> Earthen, which prog ?
[04:11] <kevogod> Has anyone gotten Gens installed on Ubuntu?
[04:11] <josh43> nickrud, True, but you dont need to updatedb every time
[04:11] <_jason> tescoil:  mplayer is running fine for me on breezy
[04:11] <Earthen> wickedpuppy:  I installed webmin and it updates on it own a now it will not uninstall
[04:11] <bobesponja> about breezy and breezy-update in sources.list , can I uncomment both or do I need to chose anyone? :)
[04:11] <_carlos_venezuel> any girl? jeje
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> Earthen, try to uninstall in synaptic
[04:12] <cjserio> Can anyone give me a suggestion as to what i can use to tell what each process is using in terms of network bandwidth?
[04:12] <Gigglesworth> I always enjoy the look on people's faces when I do something like 'find . -type f -name "*.c" -exec grep "^# Foo" {} \;' --- I mean, what's not to love about that?
[04:12] <Earthen> wickedpuppy: now i got a problem trying to upgreade to breezy
[04:12] <Necator> !cedega
[04:12] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[04:12] <nickrud> josh43, true. I'm speaking of the, 'darn, what did I just do with that file?'
[04:12] <josh43> nickrud, Have you tried OSX spotlight? now there's a search app ;)
[04:12] <jighead> cjserio: nettop, etherape
[04:12] <Earthen> wickedpuppy: I've tried
[04:12] <_carlos_venezuel> last try; "any girl using linux?"
[04:12] <josh43> nickrud, Yeah, I'll agree with you on that.. my home dir is only 8GB, so it's manageable that way
[04:12] <cjserio> jighead: can i view the results of either of those over ssh or is it a gnome app?
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> Earthen, you want to remove webmin or upgrade to breezy ?
[04:12] <Earthen> wickedpuppy: also I tried atp-get -f remove ....
[04:12] <tescoil> _jason: synaptic sez it mplayer is "currently uninstallable" (?)
[04:12] <josh43> _carlos_venezuel, Tonnes of them
[04:12] <nickrud> josh43, no, no osx here
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> tescoil, error message pls ...
[04:13] <_carlos_venezuel> josh43: oh! great to hear that
[04:13] <_carlos_venezuel> so sad non answers
[04:13] <jighead> nettop is commandline etherape is gui, so nettop will work easily over ssh, but etherape you would need to forward your xconnection
[04:13] <Earthen> wickedpuppy: I've upgraded but this packages need to be removed so that other can be installed and i get an error
[04:13] <_carlos_venezuel> thx anyway
[04:13] <_carlos_venezuel> (y)
[04:13] <josh43> nickrud, When you are in a pc store next time, check it out.. magnifying glass in the top-right
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> Earthen, error message pls ?
[04:13] <_jason> tescoil:  what package exactly?
[04:13] <brian> I got my universal repository... thanks.. .now I loaded VLC and I am playing a movie but no sound
[04:13] <Earthen> wickedpuppy:  E: webmin-core: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[04:13] <cjserio> jighead: thanks for the suggestion
[04:13] <infested_maggot> how come after i`ve installed a fresh .deb of java 1.5, when i type java -version, it prints out java version "1.4.2"
[04:13] <brian> is there a standard setting for that that I am missing?
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> hmms ...try apt-get --purge
[04:14] <tescoil> wickedpuppy: no error message, that's what synaptic says in description before you even select to download it.
[04:14] <Earthen> wickedpuppy: I think when webmin did it's own update that it installed in another dir
[04:14] <Gigglesworth> Maggot: Did you remove the old version of java?
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> Earthen, yes .. thats probably the one
[04:15] <infested_maggot> Gigglesworth: nop :D
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> tescoil, real or mplayer ? mplayer right ?
[04:15] <tescoil> wickedpuppy: mplayer
[04:15] <Earthen> wickedpuppy:  So how can i remove it with out breaking something
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> tescoil, remove and reinstall
[04:15] <flodine> can someone please tell me how to change the ubuntu logo next to application in task bar
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> Earthen, no idea .. i never update packages without going through synaptic
[04:16] <Gigglesworth> If they follow the recommended Sun instructions, Java is installed to /usr/j2se , and then a symlink is put in /bin -- (I think.. never could keep it straight).
[04:16] <_jason> flodine:  if you search the forums there are a few threads about it
[04:16] <flodine> ok thxs
[04:16] <rixth> I've never seen a thunderstorm so strong (as much lightning)
[04:17] <tescoil> wickedpuppy: didn't have it installed.  attemptic to select in synaptic gets "Application 'mplayer' not available."
[04:17] <Gigglesworth> Where you at?
[04:17] <rixth> New Zealand
[04:17] <Madpilot> flodine: there's a wiki howto on changing it, too. I'll dig up the URL
[04:17] <Earthen> Can someone tell me how to manually remove a program (webmin)
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> tescoil, you see mplayer in synaptic but when you select it , synaptic says not available ?
[04:17] <Gigglesworth> Ah. The storms won't reach here for a while then ;) (California)
[04:17] <rixth> To bad it isn't night time, it'd be ahell of a show.
[04:18] <cjserio> jighead: i just got jnettop and it does exactly what i wanted...thanks
[04:18] <jighead> cjserio: np
[04:18] <tescoil> wickedpuppy: co-rect.
[04:18] <josh43> Anyone know what package "xf86Version.h" is in?
[04:18] <Madpilot> flodine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeFoot <-- from Hoary, so it's talking about removing the Gnome Foot, but the technique should still apply in Breezy
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> tescoil, refresh and try again ...
[04:19] <colen> trying to install real player 10 and having a few problems
[04:19] <jighead> Earthen: dpkg -r webmin, or dpkg -P webmin if you really want to get rid of it, man dpkg before you do anything
[04:19] <josh43> I'm following something that says I need the "X.Org SDK Package", but I have every xorg dev and lib package in synaptic and no-go
[04:19] <colen> "./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:19] <colen> " any ideas on why thats not working?
[04:19] <Earthen> jighead: thank you I will look into it
[04:20] <Necator> crossover support games like cedega or no?
[04:20] <robitaille> josh43, the file xf86Version.h is not in any packages in Ubuntu according to  http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:20] <dm> !tell dm about restricted
[04:20] <josh43> robitaille, Oh.. well that explains it.. Doh!
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> Necator, crossover is more for office , photoshop and itunes ... cedega is more for games ...
[04:20] <dm> whats the bots, for w32codecs, and playing MP3s
[04:21] <jighead> colen: you probably need to install libstdc++5-dev
[04:21] <josh43> !restrictedformats
[04:21] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[04:21] <Necator> does cedega have gui?
[04:21] <josh43> dm: ------------------------------^
[04:21] <moo> point2play does
[04:21] <dm> isnt there an Apt-get or somthign lol
[04:22] <tescoil> wickedpuppy: okay, that looks to have worked.
[04:22] <colen> jighead, what is libstdc++5-dev
[04:22] <Necator> wickedpuppy does cedega have a gui?
[04:22] <powercat_> Hello. I'm trying to get my lucent winmodem to work in ubuntu. I've followed all the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WinModemLucent but when I type "modprobe -v ltserial" it tells me: WARNING: Error inserting ltmodem (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/other/ltmodem.ko): Invalid module format and my modem doesn't work.
[04:22] <josh43> dm; essentially, yes: read the wiki :P
[04:22] <Gigglesworth> Josh43: I think "xf86Version.h" is for Xfree86, and Ubuntu now uses x.org instead.
[04:22] <Earthen> jighead: I get pretty much the same errors using dpkg
[04:23] <nooz> hey mates :P
[04:23] <josh43> Gigglesworth, Yeah, it seems to imply that, but it's also trying to look do: --with-xorg-sdk=/usr/X11R6/lib/Server
[04:23] <dm> !tell dm about restricted formats
[04:23] <dm> !tell dm about restrictedformats
[04:23] <powercat_> Does anyone have a thinkpad T22?
[04:23] <Gigglesworth> what package are you trying to install?
[04:23] <Aven> Hello
[04:23] <josh43> !restrictedformats
[04:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[04:24] <Aven> I installed Apache2 but /etc/init.d/apache2 is not found
[04:24] <josh43> Gigglesworth, "evdev" driver: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/print.php?articleid=46
[04:24] <Aven> How do I start the webserver?
[04:24] <nooz> anyone knows how i can connect to a server with xchat like server:port
[04:24] <nooz> ?
[04:24] <Xyc0> hello everyone
[04:24] <Pablo_C> server/port
[04:24] <dm> josh43 i dont remember ever doing all that stuff.  i remember doing a couple Apt-gets and thats it
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> Necator, cedega ? no ... crossover yes ... gui isn't important
[04:25] <josh43> dm; when you get down to it, it /is/ a couple apt-gets.. just a restricted repository first
[04:25] <bytefoo> umm...for some reason
[04:25] <Necator> wickedpuppy for a beginner like me gui is important im not use to the terminal.
[04:25] <bytefoo> my entire filesystem is read-only now
[04:25] <nooz> Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?
[04:25] <bytefoo> and i don't know why :/
[04:25] <nooz> lawl :f
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> Necator, cedega /path/to/exe isn't that hard ... its just one line!
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> :P
[04:25] <jighead> colen: development files for the compiler
[04:26] <Gigglesworth> Aven:  /etc/init.d/apache2  is not installed by default, I don't think.
[04:26] <Earthen> jighead: would it hurt if i just delete the dir that webmin is in
[04:26] <Necator> ya but i dont know the paths there long :p
[04:26] <josh43> Necator, Like I say; it's easy once you associate ".exe" files with wine.. just double-click your program
[04:26] <Xyc0> Is there a way to use your wireless card to transmit FM frequencies?
[04:26] <Aven> Gigglesworth: how do I install it?
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> Aven, synaptic
[04:26] <jighead> Earthen: what directory would that be?
[04:26] <Aven> well, package name?
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> apache... isn't it what ya wanted ?
[04:26] <Aven> yes
[04:27] <josh43> Xyc0, No; different spectrum completely
[04:27] <Earthen> jighead: /etc/webmin
[04:27] <jighead> Earthen: you might want to try update-rc.d webin remove
[04:27] <Aven> I said I already installed apache2
[04:27] <Aven> but there's no apache.sh in the /etc/init.d directory
[04:27] <josh43> Xyc0, Cool idea though
[04:27] <wickedpuppy> but Gigglesworth said its not installed ... and you ask hwo to install
[04:27] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:27] <wickedpuppy> i am confused
[04:27] <Aven> Ok, here
[04:27] <jighead> Earthen: when you start removing directories like that you will leave things in /etc/init.d and /usr/share, and such that may cause other annoying errors to pop up
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[04:27] <Aven> I installed Apache2, how do I start it?
[04:28] <josh43> Aven, Put apache there :P
[04:28] <caonex_> anybody using the latest ati drivers?
[04:28] <Xyc0> josh43: Im trying to use my laptop to transmit an FM frequency for car audio.
[04:28] <Earthen> jighead: OK
[04:28] <Aven> put it where?
[04:28] <josh43> Aven; Isn't it just "apache start"?
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> ah now we are somewhere ... /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[04:28] <Xyc0> josh43: Would have made a ton easier if I already had the equip
[04:28] <josh43> Xyc0, Yeah, just grab one of those $20 iTrip things
[04:28] <Aven> ah
[04:28] <Gigglesworth> Aven: For now, you can install it from /usr/sbin/apache2ctl.
[04:29] <josh43> Xyc0, Cause without an fm transmitter; it's not happening
[04:29] <Gigglesworth> Oh... ignore what I said. Pay attention to the puppy.
[04:29] <Necator> josh42 i tryed navigating to them in the gui like u said and then pasting the locaton into the termainl but it says the location is wrong i think it uses diff charcthers for the paths.
[04:29] <tescoil> There seems to be a couplermore quicktime libraries, and I don't know which would be most elegantly installed.
[04:29] <josh43> Necator, Problem is, that's not what I said :)
[04:29] <Necator> josh43 what was it then?
[04:29] <tarheelcoxn> I followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA (including the troubleshooting section), but I still get HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[04:30] <dm> E: Couldn't find package j2rel.4, what repo do i need
[04:30] <tarheelcoxn> somebody have some help for me on DMA?
[04:30] <Amaranth> !dma
[04:30] <Amaranth> stupid bot
[04:30] <josh43> Necator, Open the GUI if you need the reference, then drop to a shell and do "cd dir" to change directories, and ls to list
[04:30] <tarheelcoxn> Amaranth: I just referenced the wiki
[04:30] <tarheelcoxn> Amaranth: I'm having trouble getting HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[04:31] <Amaranth> tarheelcoxn: Run it with sudo
[04:31] <colen> what is, and where can I get libstdc++5-dev
[04:31] <colen>   ??
[04:31] <tarheelcoxn> Amaranth: I ran it as root
[04:31] <powercat_> Hello. I'm trying to get my lucent winmodem to work in ubuntu. I've followed all the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WinModemLucent but when I type "modprobe -v ltserial" it tells me: WARNING: Error inserting ltmodem (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/other/ltmodem.ko): Invalid module format and my modem doesn't work.
[04:31] <Amaranth> tarheelcoxn: Then your drive doesn't support it.
[04:32] <Necator> ah it appears ive installed java wrong.
[04:32] <tarheelcoxn> Amaranth: this is a brand new NEC DVD burner... somehow I'm skeptical
[04:32] <josh43> Necator, The other HUGE help in the shell: type the first few characters of a directory, like "cd Progra" and press TAB
[04:32] <tarheelcoxn> Amaranth: is there something else that might be keeping it from setting that's not mentioned in the wiki
[04:32] <tarheelcoxn> ?
[04:33] <Amaranth> tarheelcoxn: Not that I'm aware of.
[04:33] <powercat_> anyone ever installed a lucent winmodme in linux?
[04:33] <Necator> josh43 can u help me install java? ive done everythign else in the wiki starter guide accept java i couldnt do that right.
[04:33] <josh43> !restrictedformats
[04:33] <ubotu> [restrictedformats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[04:33] <josh43> Try the Java section of that, Necator
[04:33] <trask_trojanek> Hello.
[04:33] <Necator> ya i did didnt help me much
[04:34] <josh43> Necator, Then I'm not going to be much help on that, sorry :)
[04:34] <ksmurf> How would I tunnel web browsing with shh?
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> web browsing with ssh ?
[04:34] <ksmurf> if there is a way
[04:34] <ksmurf> ssh
[04:35] <abk> Hey all
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> you ssh to somewhere and surf web from there ?
[04:35] <abk> , I've locked myself out of my machine
[04:35] <abk> er
[04:35] <N6REJ> can anyone help me please... I can't figure out why my wife can't check her email and I can
[04:35] <abk> locked myself out of sudoers
[04:35] <ksmurf> ah... is that the only way..... C**p
[04:35] <josh43> ksmurf, There is a way, but it's a pain in the ass.. high-level steps:
[04:36] <abk> and I need to boot into single-user mode to edit it
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> ksmurf, i don't know .. i am asking ya how you want to do it ...
[04:36] <trask_trojanek> I just took a quiz to figure out which Distro I should use and was pointed towards Ubuntu, can anyone give me some basic and technical pros/cons of Ubuntu?
[04:36] <ksmurf> josh 43 any suggestions?
[04:36] <abk> any help?
[04:36] <abk> trask
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> trask_trojanek, try live cd ...
[04:36] <ksmurf> abk
[04:36] <abk> yes?
[04:36] <josh43> ksmurf, 1) Install ssh server 2) Allow port-forwarding 3) Install a proxy server 4)forward the proxy ports through ssh 5)Point your browser to the forwarding ports
[04:36] <Gigglesworth> How'd you lock yourself out of your machine? You forgot your password?
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> abk, reboot ... and pass this to boot command line .. linux single
[04:36] <ksmurf> just restart grub in recover mode and add yourself as a sudoer
[04:37] <abk> no, it actually installed that way for some reason
[04:37] <abk> not sure how
[04:37] <abk> I'm using yaboot
[04:37] <ksmurf> then change your sudo password
[04:37] <abk> again
[04:37] <abk> useing yaboot
[04:37] <nickrud> trask_trojanek, basic: over 1000 developers maintaining 15,000+ packages, with a good degree of professionalism
[04:38] <abk> but wickedpuppy, you say I can just say linux single at startup?
[04:38] <ksmurf> josh43 k that cool except for the last 4 steps (lol)
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> abk thats how you get into single user mode ... i am not sure if ubuntu disabled it .. then it won't work
[04:38] <josh43> trask_trojanek, 6 month release cycle, with drastic improvements and thinning of code (gets faster as you go)
[04:38] <abk> :-
[04:38] <tarheelcoxn> trask_trojanek: if you have broadband and a decent CD burner, you should really burn one each of ubuntu live and kubuntu live
[04:38] <abk> okay
[04:38] <abk> I'll try that
[04:39] <abk> I'll tell you how it goes
[04:39] <trask_trojanek> What're the differences between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[04:39] <josh43> ksmurf, I warned you :P.. Sadly it's easier to make it work with a windows box as the ssh server
[04:39] <Gigglesworth> Colin: libstdc++5-dev is the header files for the standard C++ libraries. The package are required to compile some software. Look here for Breezy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/g++
[04:39] <bytefoo> dudes, i require immediate assistance: my entire filesystem, for some unknown reason, has been changed to read only
[04:39] <tarheelcoxn> trask_trojanek: the former has a gnome desktop, the latter has a KDE desktop
[04:39] <Chizn> Why cant i log on as root?
[04:39] <Chizn> i dont remembering being asked for a password
[04:39] <josh43> Chizn, You dont need root
[04:39] <tarheelcoxn> trask_trojanek: the former has a lot of brown by default, the latter has a lot of blue
[04:39] <Chizn> How do i become Super-User then?
[04:39] <pupil> ok,. I got my wireless up,. I just have a few more things to do,. how do I keep the settings I made with iwconfig ?
[04:39] <josh43> Chizn, For any 'root' command, try "sudo <command>"
[04:39] <ksmurf> wickedpuppy I was just asking about a way to do it.  I have my sftp and ssh connections up np but I was woundering how to websurf ssh style to help me with my wireless encryption (wep sucks)
[04:40] <caonex__> anybody knows about dpkg-divert?
[04:40] <josh43> Chizn, The pass it asks for is your user password
[04:40] <Chizn> Yes
[04:40] <tarheelcoxn> trask_trojanek: the best way to learn is to jump in with both feet
[04:40] <pupil> ok,. I got my wireless up,. I just have a few more things to do,. how do I keep the settings I made with iwconfig ?
[04:40] <GigaClon> why is the icon for the archive tool a bulldozer?
[04:40] <josh43> Chizn, Once you get used to it, sudo is _alot_ better of an idea and practice
[04:41] <Amaranth> Seveas: You're top community guy now?
[04:41] <Chizn> ah, ok then, thank you
[04:41] <dm> how do you change your name?
[04:41] <Madpilot> !tell Chizn about root
[04:41] <josh43> Chizn, yw.. btw, you can do sudo -s as well, for a root shell
[04:41] <Chizn> i am trying to install ATI propriatery drivers you see
[04:41] <FujiHOST> Hey all
[04:42] <dm> how do you change your name?
[04:42] <Chizn> so i did "sudo sh /path.sh" and it worked :o)
[04:42] <Chizn> thank you
[04:42] <josh43> Chizn, Did you try the BinaryDriverHowTo?
[04:42] <josh43> Chizn, Good stuff :)
[04:42] <absent> how would i access a ssh host through Ubuntu
[04:42] <FujiHOST> Can Somebody please tell me how to install java "jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin" or point me to a tutorial?
[04:43] <defendguin> does the ubuntu kernel have the ability to mount a ntfs partition?
[04:43] <Madpilot> defendguin: yes
[04:43] <Madpilot> !tell defendguin about ntfs
[04:43] <josh43> Anyone know where I can find "xf86Version.h"? it's supposed to be in "/usr/X11R6/lib/Server"
[04:43] <dm> Anyone know how to change your name in this channel
[04:43] <pupil> threeseas, what was that link you gave me,. I forgot to bookmark it,. you stilll there?
[04:43] <absent> nvm i used gftp
[04:43] <durt> FujiHOST: there should be a deb or repo somewhere: google "ubuntu backports"
[04:44] <dandelion> josh43: wild guess... maybe xlibs-dev ?
[04:44] <absent> : ) I am a genius
[04:44] <trask_trojanek> I'm looking for a nice distro that could be easily modified(very openly open-source, perhaps?) and very nice for hacking, probably with some default programming code readers, etc. Has anyone got an idea of what I could use? Or perhaps Ubuntu is the one I'm looking for?
[04:44] <jimmyjoe> what is fastest file system for Ubuntu 5.10 & Samba?
[04:44] <abk> :(
[04:44] <pupil> threeseas, my wireless is up,. thank you,. but i need to go back to that link
[04:44] <abk> no luck
[04:44] <josh43> dandelion, Nope, good guess tho :)
[04:44] <spoonman2> is there a decent dvd ripper?
[04:44] <abk> any more help on booting into single-user mode with yaboot?
[04:44] <nickrud> dm, if you're using xchat, just click your name in the lower left
[04:44] <josh43> trask_trojanek, Gentoo :)
[04:44] <bob2> spoonman2: thoggen, drip, apt-cache search dvd rip
[04:44] <bytefoo> how do i boot into single user mode
[04:45] <FujiHOST> ?
[04:45] <bob2> trask_trojanek: any distribution will be fine, pick whichever you like
[04:45] <bob2> trask_trojanek: if you have no idea, tho, ubuntu (or debian) would ab ea nice choice.
[04:45] <durt> !+backports
[04:45] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports. Also, Breezy does not have backports at the moment because there is no *later* distribution to backport from.
[04:45] <bob2> dm/nick whatever
[04:45] <bytefoo> someone told me i have to fsck my partition since my entire filesystem turned read only, and i have to do this in single user mode :(
[04:45] <josh43> trask_trojanek, If you anything at all about source code, and you are looking for that sort of thing, Gentoo is like diving into a pool of jello and naked women
[04:45] <FujiHOST> what is a deb and/or repo?
[04:45] <dandelion> josh43: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=xf86Version.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386
[04:45] <trask_trojanek> josh43, I've tried installing Gentoo once, to no luck. 'Tis a rather complicated process for me, have you got a link to a tutorial on installing, or something of hte like?
[04:45] <bob2> bytefoo: choose recovery mode from the grub menu
[04:46] <jimmyjoe> Is XFS & Samba the best combo for a Norton Ghost file server?
[04:46] <Gigglesworth> Fujuhost: You just need to  run "sh ./jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin" . It should be on the isntruction page where you got java from.
[04:46] <josh43> trask_trojanek, There is an install guide.. when did you last try? if it's 6+months, try again
[04:46] <bob2> FujiHOST: .deb = ubuntu's package format (from Debian), repository = collection of .debs in a form that apt can access automatically.
[04:46] <bob2> jimmyjoe: I'd be using ext3.
[04:46] <bytefoo> bob2, but then how do i do the fsck thing :/
[04:46] <bytefoo> or just change it back so its not read only :(
[04:46] <FujiHOST> thanks bob2
[04:46] <trask_trojanek> josh42, ah, okay, thank you very much.
[04:47] <bytefoo> i didnt even do anything it just switched on its own, magically :(
[04:47] <Gigglesworth> Bytefoo: That person was lying to you, or they were a Mac user. fsck won't fix the permissions.
[04:47] <bob2> bytefoo: if / is screwed, you're probably entirely screwed
[04:47] <durt> FujiHOST add those lines that ubotu said up there to /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:47] <jimmyjoe> bob: Using ext3 now with Ubuntu 5.10. It seems slow during Ghost sessions
[04:47] <josh43> dandelion, Yeah, that's what I found out about that about an hour ago, unfortunately.. I'm stuck now trying to find out why I dont have it
[04:47] <trex_dk> trask_trojansk: here's an gentoo install guide : http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml
[04:48] <bob2> Gigglesworth: eh? the kernel will remount filesystems read-only if they start failing
[04:48] <bytefoo> but why is it screwed
[04:48] <bob2> jimmyjoe: why do you think it's a filesystem issue
[04:48] <bob2> bytefoo: only you can find out by reading the end of "dmesg"
[04:48] <bob2> bytefoo: could be failing disk, loose cable, buggy kernel...
[04:48] <Gigglesworth> Bytefoo: can you create a file in the /tmp directory like 'touch /tmp/test' ?
[04:48] <bytefoo> no
[04:48] <bytefoo> its read only
[04:49] <bob2> bytefoo: inedeed, now read the output of dmesg
[04:49] <chaffinb> hi all
[04:49] <bob2> bytefoo: also read what I said to Gigglesworth a couple of minutes ago
[04:49] <bytefoo> [4294992.234000]  EXT3-fs error (device hda1): ext3_new_block: Allocating block in system zone - block = 7733765
[04:49] <Chizn> is there a maya build for linux?
[04:49] <trex_dk> bytefoo, i have just had exactly that problem today :)
[04:49] <Gigglesworth> But you do 'ls -ld /tmp' and the permissions look correct, right?
[04:49] <bytefoo> that doesn't sound good :|
[04:49] <jasonb_> hi im trying to install a package and experiencing circular dependency... i try to install an app but its saying some package is not yet configure when i try to configure it it says that the original package im trying to install is not yet configured? anyone know how to fix that? thanks
[04:49] <dandelion> josh43: that file doesn't even exist in debian
[04:49] <thechitowncubs> hey
[04:49] <bob2> Chizn: you'd have to talk to maya.
[04:49] <thechitowncubs> does anyone know when Flash 8 is coming out for linux?
[04:49] <josh43> dandelion, ? Really?
[04:49] <trex_dk> my ext3 filesystem suddenly turned out to be read-only on my usbdisk!
[04:50] <Necator> i get this error when im trying to install java
[04:50] <bob2> jasonb_: why are you using dpkg to do this?
[04:50] <Chizn> ok, thanks
[04:50] <Necator> ./j2eesdk-1_4_02_2005Q2-linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:50] <bob2> trex_dk: that could mean disk failure, look at the bottom of "dmesg"'s output
[04:50] !lilo:*! US users: "Spring forward, fall back." Before you go to sleep, set your non-computer clocks back one hour. We'll assume you've all got computer clocks configured to UTC and set to skip back on their own. Well, we hope. :)
[04:50] <Necator> anyone know how to repair that?
[04:50] <chaffinb> i'm having a hard time figuring out what kind of video card i have ubilt on on my motherboard
[04:50] <jasonb_> bob2 is there a different way?
[04:50] <josh43> dandelion, But, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/print.php?articleid=46 did it against ubuntu 5.04 with no issues
[04:50] <Chizn> what is xfree86-dga?
[04:50] <defendguin> Madpilot, i just plugged in an a laptop harddrive to my laptop using a usb adapter but it doesnt automout and running the script described on that page doesnt work
[04:50] <bob2> Necator: so go to packages.ubuntu.com and find the package that has that file
[04:50] <chaffinb> is there any utility out there for recoginizing it?
[04:50] <bob2> Chizn: something you don't want or need
[04:50] <trex_dk> my problem is fixed now
[04:50] <Chizn> oki doke :o)
[04:50] <bob2> chaffinb: you almost certainly don't need to care
[04:50] <Gigglesworth> bob2 is on a roll!
[04:50] <bytefoo> bob2, you said that it will mount filesystem as readonly if its failing, but how can i fix it o_O
[04:50] <chaffinb> well i'm stuck at 600*800
[04:50] <FujiHOST> when i try to launch a deb file it says archive not supported
[04:50] <bob2> jasonb_: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:50] <bytefoo> this block seems to be the error :|
[04:51] <bob2> bytefoo: find out what the problem is
[04:51] !lilo:*! (I'm told Canadian users "fall back" at the same time. Thanks!)
[04:51] <bytefoo> i just pasted it :/
[04:51] <trex_dk> when i reattached the disk, it said that it was a read-only filesystem!
[04:51] <bob2> bytefoo: if you're getting that error, it's time to power it off, and check all the cables are tight
[04:51] <jasonb_> bob2 i dont want to use apt-get because all the dependencies are already in my local drive and i don't want to double download cuz im low on internet quota
[04:51] <gpg> hello there
[04:51] <bob2> chaffinb: so say that...http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:51] <bytefoo> it's a laptop, there are no cables :/
[04:51] <bob2> 14:50:12           bob2 | trex_dk: that could mean disk failure, look at the bottom of "dmesg"'s output
[04:51] <chaffinb> thanks
[04:51] <jasonb_> bob2: does Synaptic download from the net automatically?
[04:51] <nalioth> jasonb_: apt wont 'double-download' if the things are already installed
[04:51] <bob2> bytefoo: try rebooting then, perhaps it will magically fix itself
[04:51] <bytefoo> i did that :|
[04:51] <gpg> is anybody know how to upgrade to latest version of software in ubuntu
[04:51] <bob2> bytefoo: unless you've been playing with hdparm, tho, it's probably physical disk failure
[04:52] <jasonb_> how about synaptic
[04:52] <bob2> gpg: /topic
[04:52] <bob2> jasonb_: yes, of course.
[04:52] <bytefoo> :(
[04:52] <trask_trojanek> josh43: i should get the universal install for gentoo right?
[04:52] <jasonb_> bob2 yes of course it wouldnt download twice?
[04:52] <bob2> jasonb_: if they're in /var/cache/apt/archives/, apt will use them
[04:52] <bob2> trask_trojanek: sounds likee this conversation is more approriate for #gentoo
[04:52] <Gigglesworth> Bytefoo: I'd copy important stuff to another disk.
[04:52] <gpg> bob2, dont want to upgrade to breezy yet
[04:52] <trex_dk> bytefoo, my suggestion is to 'umount /dev/hda1' and run a 'fsck.ext3 /dev/hda1'
[04:53] <bob2> gpg: then you'll need to learn to love the programs in hoary
[04:53] !lilo:*! (parts of Western Europe have apparently switched as well.... apologies for not keeping on top of this; I guess it's easier to think about just your local timezones, because you have to go wind the clocks locally 8)
[04:53] <jasonb_> can you help me what command line i need to type?
[04:53] <trex_dk> worth a try.. it did work for me
[04:53] <bob2> jasonb_: move the .debs to /var/cache/apt/archives/.  I have no idea how or where you put them.
[04:53] <jasonb_> but i don't need to apt-get right cuz its already installed and just needs to be configured?
[04:53] <gpg> bob2 , what if i reinstall it..
[04:53] <bob2> gpg: what?
[04:53] <josh43> trask_trojanek, I assume.. Much as I like Gentoo; I hate sourcecode.. I've showed it to everyone I know that likes linux and knows a little programming, they go NUTS
[04:53] <bob2> jasonb_: if you can't figure out dependency issues yourself, you should be using apt-get.
[04:54] <gpg> bob2, say you have gaim1.1 and the new one is gaim1.5 , how to upgrade?
[04:54] <bob2> !+info gaim breezy
[04:54] <josh43> trask_trojanek, But, bob2 is right; Best to ask in #gentoo (though, my personal beleif is that if you have the time, get the 40MB source-only install disk ;)
[04:54] <ubotu> gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 814 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB
[04:54] <bob2> gpg: you use breezy
[04:54] <jasonb_> so if i put the .debs in the dir you mentioned apt-get will get them there instead?
[04:54] <Gigglesworth> !+info gaim breezy
[04:55] <bob2> jasonb_: if they have the correct md5sums and such, yes.
[04:55] <Chia-gone> Hey guys. I"m trying to remember the name of the open source TiVop type stuff that runs on *nix.. Any clues?
[04:55] <dandelion> josh43: seen this thread ? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/09/msg02278.html
[04:55] <josh43> Chia-gone, MythTV
[04:55] <Chia-gone> Excellent -- that's it exactly.
[04:55] <Chia-gone> Thanks.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> THen theres an alternative to MythTV also.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> i forget  its name.
[04:55] <jasonb_> its apt-get install "pkgname" ...right?
[04:55] <bob2> jasonb_: if your apt database is up to date, yes
[04:55] <josh43> dandelion, Wow.. I'm plressed.. usually I can find it if it exists, but I did not find that
[04:55] <Chia-gone> Dr_Willis, Okey. Thanks anyway.
[04:55] <gpg> bob2, if i upgrade to breezy .. will all my settings be the same?
[04:56] <bob2> gpg: yes...
[04:56] <kevogod> Freevo?
[04:56] <josh43> plressed=impressed ;)
[04:56] !lilo:*! For further information on daylight savings time transitions: http://www.timeanddate.com/time/dst2005b.html
[04:56] <absent> hey
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> kevogod,  yea - that sounds right "FreeVo"
[04:57] <intelikey> i was installing software with apt over a 56k modem and kept getting E (something about package error)  i finally manually rm'd the copy in /var/cache/apt/archives/... and tried it again.  well it had to re-download it but it finally worked.  not that it will actually help any body, just wanted to rant.
[04:57] <gpg> bob2, i m just worried that all my setting will go away..is there anyway ..if breezy messes up i can get back the hoary?
[04:57] <Necator> bob2 got it working. had to locate the darn libirary and install it =(
[04:57] <bob2> gpg: nope
[04:57] <bob2> Necator: yes
[04:57] <bob2> Necator: yay for crappy binary-only software
[04:57] <Necator> bob2 was hard to find =(
[04:57] <josh43> gpg; No easy way that's less trouble than setting it up again
[04:57] <Necator> but finally i get java!
[04:58] <paladinew> Is there a VPN client for 5.10 ???
[04:58] <bob2> paladinew: there's dozens
[04:58] <bob2> paladinew: what sort of VPN do you want to connect to?
[04:58] <thechitowncubs> i wish flash was good
[04:58] <kevogod> Most likely PPTP
[04:58] <gpg> josh43, r u using breezy?
[04:58] <Doonz> in a raid 0+1 config can you have 7 + 1 drives or would it have to be 6 + 1 or 8 +1
[04:59] <gpg> josh43, what is the better? what is the difference? did anything go wrong while upgrading to breezy?
[04:59] <paladinew> I need to connect to a vpn server sunning on WIN 2003 server
[04:59] <paladinew> er running
[04:59] <Necator> bob2 does this java make it work in firefox also?
[04:59] <Gigglesworth> Can I use my Ubuntu 5.10 Live disk as an install disk?
[04:59] <bob2> Necator: not unless you setup the plugin
[04:59] <bob2> Gigglesworth: not really
[04:59] <jasonb_> bob2: if i put the deb files in the dir you mentioned do they ind deb files have to be in that dir per se or can i group related pkgs in a subdir within that directory? thanks heaps
[04:59] <Necator> bob2 where do i do that at?
[04:59] <bob2> paladinew: then you need pptp stuff
[04:59] <bob2> Necator: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:00] <bob2> jasonb_: no, they all go in the one directory
[05:00] <kevogod> paladinew, pptp-linux
[05:00] <paladinew> is pptp installed by default on breezy ?
[05:00] <jasonb_> bob2 so they should all be mixed up in that one subdir
[05:00] <bob2> jasonb_: yes, of course
[05:00] <jasonb_> ok ill do that now thanks
[05:00] <bob2> paladinew: no
[05:00] <kevogod> paladinew, I do not believe so.
[05:00] <jasonb_> i just wanted to group related packages
[05:00] <bob2> paladinew: pptp-linux - Point-to-Point Tunneling Protocol (PPTP) Client
[05:00] <bob2> jasonb_: why?
[05:01] <bob2> paladinew: install that
[05:01] <paladinew> ok
[05:01] <gpg> bob2, what is the better? what is the difference? did anything go wrong while upgrading to breezy?
[05:01] <FujiHOST> when i try to launch a deb file it says archive not supported
[05:01] <FujiHOST> ?
[05:01] <bob2> FujiHOST: why would you try to "launch a deb file"?
[05:01] <GigaClon> FujiHOST, you have to do it from a terminal
[05:01] <mhz> Anyone know where i can download MN720-ankh.inf from?
[05:01] <bob2> FujiHOST: if you're trying to install something, use synaptic
[05:01] <intelikey> i didn't know .deb's were supposed to be exec.
[05:01] <bob2> gpg: better?
[05:01] <GigaClon> dpkg -i name_of_deb
[05:02] <sizzam> intelikey,  i think they open in fileroller
[05:02] <gpg> bob2, hoary or breezy?
[05:02] <FujiHOST> ok
[05:02] <pintosinto> free
[05:02] <pintosinto>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[05:02] <pintosinto> Mem:        776064     763708      12356          0      33036     187844
[05:02] <FujiHOST> what commands do i type before the package name
[05:02] <josh43> gpg; Basically; image the drive first, and I am on breezy, though I chose to format anyways (I upgraded to 5.04 with no issues, but I moved from amd64 hoary to i386 Breezy, so I formatted
[05:02] <pintosinto> how much memory does that mean i have?
[05:02] <Necator> insufficnt disk space to install java =(
[05:02] <Necator> just when i got it to work too
[05:02] <bob2> gpg: use whatever you wanyt
[05:02] <colen> can somone give me a little guideance on installing something
[05:02] <bob2> FujiHOST: no, stop. what are you trying to install?
[05:03] <FujiHOST> Java
[05:03] <pintosinto> can someone tell me how much memory ^ shows?
[05:03] <bob2> colen: it's way easier if you just ask your question
[05:03] <intelikey> yes sizzam i was being a pain.   they open in mc also :)
[05:03] <pintosinto> 776064
[05:03] <bob2> FujiHOST: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:03] <pintosinto> is that half gig?
[05:03] <bob2> pintosinto: please don't paste in here
[05:03] <paladinew> do I apt-get "PPTP" ???
[05:03] <pintosinto> i'm sorry.
[05:03] <bob2> pintosinto: it means you have 776064 KB of memory
[05:03] <FujiHOST> j2re1.4_1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:03] <FujiHOST> ok
[05:03] <pintosinto> so that is 512 right?
[05:03] <colen> I am trying to install realplayer 10.  I have downloaded both the bin and rpm version off of there site
[05:03] <bob2> paladinew: no, you read what I said and then install the pptp-linux package...
[05:03] <bob2> colen: why do you want realplayer?
[05:03] <pintosinto> 512mb* right?
[05:03] <bob2> pintosinto: no, not at all
[05:03] <gpg> bob2, can you plz gimme a link where i can download breezy in a cd?
[05:04] <pintosinto> how much would that be?
[05:04] <bob2> pintosinto: it's 776064 KB
[05:04] <colen> I need that, or some other software to play rm files in
[05:04] <jasonb_> is apt-get equivalent to the function synaptic?
[05:04] <pintosinto> OK
[05:04] <bob2> colen: mplayer/etc can play rm files...
[05:04] <bob2> jasonb_: mostly
[05:04] <josh43> dandelion, Ok, your help learned me a few things: Dont follow howtos blindly, how to install a(n existing) module, and how to compile a c program :)
[05:04] <bob2> gpg: why do you wan tthe CD? you can just upgrade your hoary system to it.
[05:04] <dandelion> josh43: I'm glad then :)
[05:05] <josh43> dandelion, Turns out, ubuntu has the evdev driver already there.. I tried specifying it in xorg, but it wasn't running
[05:05] <colen> bob2, myplayer will not play all of the files
[05:05] <intelikey> jasonb_ synaptic is more or less the eq. of aptitude.
[05:05] <bob2> colen: you have the windows dlls installed?
[05:05] <colen> bob2: no
[05:06] <colen> bob2:  I am new and I do not know what I am doing.
[05:06] <josh43> colen; find xbmc, and grab the dll files from it.. it has all of them, including wm9
[05:06] <jasonb_> bob2 worked like a charm you're a life savah! thanks mate!
[05:06] <bob2> colen: /msg ubotu w32codecs
[05:06] <jasonb_> intelikey thanks
[05:06] <GigaClon> !tell colen about w32codecs
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> Tell the World about the Wonders of Ubuntu. :P
[05:07] <josh43> brb
[05:07] <Pablo_C> !tell Pablo_C  about w32codecs
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> "Ubuntu Users and the women that love them" on the next Jenny Jones!
[05:07] <GigaClon> Pablo_C, you can also just say !tell me about blah] 
[05:07] <beford> !tell beford about windows
[05:07] <Gigglesworth> I'm probably going to replace my Debian machine here with Ubuntu. I feel excited, but dirty :)
[05:07] <beford> oops
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> Using Ubuntu mainly these days here.
[05:08] <colen> how do i go about intalling a bin file?>
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> sh whatever.bin
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> you RUN a bin file
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:08] <beford> chmod +x file.bin
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> i hate the idea of a .bin file.
[05:09] <bob2> colen: doing what I suggested is a fair bit simpler
[05:09] <intelikey> . whatever.bin
[05:09] <bob2> sourcing a .bin file like that is unlikely to do anything useful
[05:09] <colen> bob2:  I am not able to intall mplayer on my machine, it tells me that it is not avaible
[05:10] <bob2> colen: uh
[05:10] <bob2> colen: why didn't you say that then?
[05:10] <bob2> colen: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:10] <bob2> colen: it's in multiverse
[05:10] <FujiHOST> i need to install sun java using th debfile
[05:10] <colen> I had mplayer working with linspire, but it would not play 80% of my rm files
[05:10] <FujiHOST> what commands do i put before the package name
[05:10] <bob2> FujiHOST: please read the wiki page I pointed you at
[05:11] <bob2> FujiHOST: you could have been done by now and drinking a beer if you'd done so to begin with...
[05:11] <bob2> colen: then install hte windows dlls as I suggested
[05:11] <intelikey> dpkg -i
[05:11] <colen> but I still need to get mplayer working right?
[05:12] <bob2> colen: yes, reading that page I pointed you at will get you mplayer in about 3 minutes
[05:12] <bob2> depending on internet connection speed
[05:15] <colen> bob2: thank you for all your help, I will let you know how I make out.
[05:17] <bytefoo> hey guys
[05:17] <bytefoo> fsck.ext3 fixed it
[05:17] <TiMiDo> hey bytefoo
[05:17] <bytefoo> thanks :)
[05:17] <TiMiDo> np (:
[05:17] <bytefoo> 8D
[05:17] <bob2> that's unlikely to be a permanent fix
[05:17] <Gigglesworth> Congrats bytefoo.
[05:17] <bytefoo> why :/
[05:17] <bob2> given the cause seems to be hardware
[05:17] <Gigglesworth> Backup your stuff soon.
[05:17] <bob2> so do make sure you have backups
[05:17] <bytefoo> why would it be hardware
[05:18] <bob2> what else would it be?
[05:18] <bytefoo> corrupted filesystem
[05:18] <Gigglesworth> Most disk failures are due to the hardware, not the software.
[05:18] <bob2> and what do you think caused that?
[05:18] <bytefoo> too much i/o :|
[05:18] <bob2> no
[05:18] <bob2> how would that cause incorrect data to be written to the disk?
[05:19] <Gigglesworth> I've had 3 of my personal HD's crash in the last year. I wish I backed up better.
[05:19] <bytefoo> no idea
[05:19] <Chizn> how would i get a program to run at startup?
[05:19] <Chizn> in x
[05:20] <bob2> what program?
[05:20] <caonex__> I have ubuntu breezy installed and I am just encountered the file /etc/ld.so.conf having all the lib32 paths, but no lib64 or lib. Is this suppose to be normal in an amd64 ubuntu system?
[05:20] <Chizn> like any program
[05:20] <bytefoo> it's been my experience that most HD failures are accompanied by sounds :/
[05:20] <Chizn> say like.. firefox?
[05:20] <Noli> Hey guys, can anyone tell me where I could get the latest version of Mono Develop for 5.10?
[05:21] <Gigglesworth> Bytefoo: Not always. There could be a loose wire, faulty chip, a short...etc.
[05:21] <bob2> caonex__: yes, leave it alone
[05:21] <bob2> Chizn: system -> preferences -> session, add it
[05:21] <bungle> is there any other guis with ubuntu other than gnowe
[05:21] <bungle> gnome
[05:21] <bob2> Noli: presumably the mono website has the source for it
[05:21] <bob2> bungle: dozens
[05:21] <caonex__> bob2, i am having a conflict with an ati driver fglrx
[05:21] <bytefoo> better hock it on eBay and get that powerbook i've been eyeing then ;)
[05:21] <bob2> caonex__: that is unelated to it
[05:21] <bungle> where is like a console display manager which I can flick though them
[05:21] <Noli> bob2, ok, but I'm unsure about building it myself
[05:22] <bob2> caonex__: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:22] <bob2> !+info monodevelop breezy
[05:22] <ubotu> monodevelop: (C#/Boo/Java/Nemerle/ILasm Development Environment), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 0.7-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1308 kB, Installed size: 4788 kB
[05:22] <bob2> bungle: no
[05:22] <Chizn> ubuntu is great isnt it!
[05:22] <caonex__> bob2, oh i see....i cant use that howto, it does not work with my card
[05:22] <Chizn> thanks bob2
[05:22] <bungle> bob2 I am guessing i have to install them myself??
[05:22] <bob2> caonex__: are you using breezy?
[05:22] <LoneWolf071> how would i play .wmv videos?
[05:22] <bungle> as there not preinstalled
[05:22] <Gigglesworth> A high I/O on the drive probably wouldn't corrupt your root partition. It might create some unusable file somewhere, but you would still be able to read and write to the drive.
[05:22] <caonex__> bob2, i have done it three times and the only way i can get it working, fglrx, is by using the latest driver by ati
[05:22] <caonex__> bob2, yes i am
[05:22] <bob2> bungle: yes, ubuntu does not install all 3 000 available wms by default ;)
[05:23] <bob2> caonex__: that is odd
[05:23] <bungle> lmfao
[05:23] <bob2> LoneWolf071: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:23] <caonex__> bob2, i think it has to do with my card
[05:23] <bungle> thanks
[05:23] <caonex__> bob2, most people that has worked for I have confirmed they have radeon 9600 or something
[05:23] <intelikey> bungle xorg or xfree  those are your graphic user interfaces.  gnome kde xfce twm icewm fluxbox blackbox ....  are all desktop environments that use the gui
[05:24] <bob2> caonex__: no, it works for lots of people with pimp video cards, (ie pci-i X600 ones)
[05:24] <Noli> groan, I actually ment for 5.04, but packages don't download anymore :(
[05:24] <bungle> yes intelikey .. whats the command to change to a different gui rather than the default gnome
[05:24] <caonex__> bob2, after i did that, the blank screen appeared and even adding the "MonitorLayout" option, it did not work.
[05:24] <Chizn> how would i run an embedded movie in firefox?
[05:24] <Chizn> like a mpg or whatever, you know the type?
[05:24] <bob2> Noli: ?
[05:25] <caonex__> bob2, well i have the 200M, and they do not work, not changing anything to the xorg.conf i switch modules and it works with one but not the other.
[05:25] <intelikey> bungle install your choice of desktops and they will be in the list at login.
[05:25] <caonex__> bob2, i was reading that i may have to use dpkg-divert to fix the problem
[05:25] <Noli> bob2, one of the repos hasn't been online for a while, so I can't update mono on 5.04
[05:25] <bungle> tru ok ... so gnome is the only one installed at the moment .. if I just done a default install
[05:25] <bob2> caonex__: "with one but not the other"?
[05:26] <caonex__> bob2, i was reading that the installation is not overriding the libmesa libraries, so instead of overwriting it making apt not work, one should use dpkg-divert
[05:26] <bob2> Noli: uh, pelase don't tell me you're talking about mirrormax "backports"
[05:26] <Gigglesworth> bungle: yes. Gnome is the only one installed by default.
[05:26] <bob2> caonex__: the packages do that automatically
[05:26] <caonex__> bob2, yeah, the one from the binary, included with ubuntu, and the one from ati, the latest
[05:26] <bungle> bah my b/f farts soooooo much .. he talks out his ass more than his mouth
[05:26] <caonex__> bob2, not with alien
[05:26] <intelikey> bungle yes.
[05:26] <bungle> males such ferals at times
[05:27] <cyphase> hey everyone
[05:27] <Noli> bob2, I'm trying to work out on what repo the monodevelop stuff is on
[05:27] <iceman> Anyone here familure with IBM Servers ?
[05:27] <caonex__> bob2, is that what you talking about, i found a lot of tutorials using dpkg-divert because of apt problems when forcing overwrite
[05:27] <Noli> bob2, yep, its on the mirrormax backports :/
[05:27] <windex> iceman, blade or otherwise?
[05:27] <Amaranth> bungle: I hope he doesn't talk out his mouth a lot. :P
[05:27] <bob2> Noli: disable that repository then
[05:27] <vladuz976_> if dmesg tells me "usb-storage: device found at 2" what exactly do i know from that? how can i mount the device?
[05:27] <jbalint> hi guys, i am having a problem with sound. it is not working. everthing looks like it should and i check the forums and didn't find any solution. my card shows up in System->Prefs->Sound, but the test sounds don't play. I tried alsamixer and everything is turned on. Any ideas?
[05:27] <bob2> iceman: best to just ask your question
[05:28] <xsquared> what is this channel's help bot?
[05:28] <bob2> caonex__: uh, if you use alien, you lose
[05:28] <caonex__> bob2, so supposedly for that reason when i run glxinfo i get the libmesa libraries
[05:28] <bob2> xsquared: ubotu
[05:28] <caonex__> bob2, i cant get the debian files
[05:28] <bob2> caonex__: aliened packages will require manual fiddling
[05:28] <windex> ubotu, tell xsquared about ubotu
[05:28] <Madpilot> ubotu tell xsquared about yourself
[05:28] <toogreen> my system is strangely slow... feels like the swap is not working... how to check if my SWAP is being used properly?
[05:28] <caonex__> bob2, i told the ati binary to generate the ubuntu breezy package and it returned errors
[05:28] <bob2> caonex__: just try the ati tarballs then, if you're really sure breezy's ones do not support your card
[05:28] <bob2> caonex__: and file a bug
[05:28] <bob2> caonex__: ok
[05:28] <iceman> windex as400 series ... curently has UNIX on it ... now I can get it fairly cheap, but it's either Hack UNIX or .. install Linux .. if "LINUX" can be Installed ...
[05:28] <bob2> toogreen: "free -m", paste the output to #flood
[05:28] <iceman> windex but what Distro ?
[05:28] <intelikey> jbalint look for it at /dev/sd?
[05:28] <caonex__> bob2, i used that one, and it is even worse because it does not include the binaries like glxinfo
[05:29] <jbalint> intelikey: /dev/snd?
[05:29] <windex> iceman, is it a PPC as400?
[05:29] <caonex__> bob2, in the ati channel they told me to use the rpm because it seems that the automatic ati installation leaves all that out
[05:29] <Madpilot> caonex_: see the wiki ATI page for details, but I had to drop back to the command line to get 3d accel working in Breezy w/ my ATI 9600XT
[05:29] <toogreen> bob2, just did past in #flood
[05:29] <intelikey> jbalint didn't you ask about mounting a usb device ?
[05:29] <iceman> windex Dont know ... I know little about it .. just where it is ...
[05:29] <jbalint> intelikey: No, about my sound not working. :)
[05:30] <caonex__> bob2, ?
[05:30] <windex> iceman, well, if it's a powerpc based as400, you ought to be able to get PPC linux working.
[05:30] <intelikey> jbalint sorry i missread.
[05:30] <caonex__> bob2, brb
[05:30] <xsquared> no, lol, i want to know what software is the bot
[05:30] <iceman> windex guessing it's a quad processor .... from my little resurch ..
[05:30] <windex> iceman, check the hardware specs against the debian compatibility list?
[05:30] <xsquared> is it the same bot that #debian uses?
[05:30] <Noli> bob2, so whats wrong with the mirrormax backports?
[05:30] <bob2> iceman: what cpu is that?
[05:30] <bob2> Noli: gone
[05:30] <Noli> bob2, is there a replacement? :/
[05:31] <bob2> xsquared: same software, different instance of it and a different db
[05:31] <bob2> Noli: just don't use it
[05:31] <Madpilot> xsquared: /whois ubotu
[05:31] <bob2> toogreen: that looks fine
[05:31] <Noli> bob2, but I can't get monodevelop from anywhere else :/
[05:31] <bob2> Noli: yes. you. can.
[05:31] <bob2> !+info monodevelop hoary
[05:31] <ubotu> monodevelop: (C#/Java/Nermele/ILasm Development Environment), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 0.5.1-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 1533 kB, Installed size: 5568 kB
[05:31] <bungle> do I download a binary ... cause if I have no gcc I can't download a source
[05:31] <bob2> Noli: monodevelop is in hoary itself
[05:31] <bungle> well I can download it but not install it
[05:31] <toogreen> bob2 yeah thats what i thought.. strange.. i used to run mandrake b4 and it wasn't that slow :(
[05:31] <yarddog> if i play a file from quicktime, it wont open mplayer, it opens totem, how can i change the file extension preferences for this?
[05:32] <bob2> bungle: install build-essential  and you will be able to compile things
[05:32] <iceman> not sure, from IBM .. looks to be IBM's 64 bit ... but until i decide to Get it and start learning.. I know very little ... why i'm gathering info and asking questions
[05:32] <bob2> bungle: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[05:32] <Noli> bob2, ok, and thats the out of date version :(
[05:32] <bob2> Noli: so use breezy
[05:32] <bob2> Noli: geez
[05:32] <Noli> I can't :(
[05:32] <bungle> wikid tah bob2 ... I had trouble the other day cause gcc wasn't installed
[05:32] <bob2> Noli: anything that was in "hoary backports" is going to be older or the same version as it is in breezy
[05:32] <iceman> or, anyone know a way to "HACK" the unix password ?
[05:32] <caonex__> bob2, so what is your suggestion?
[05:32] <bungle> each linux different yet the same
[05:32] <bungle> iceman
[05:32] <bytefoo> haxor the gibson :|
[05:32] <bungle> brute force
[05:32] <bungle> and patience
[05:32] <bob2> iceman: if it's AIX, it's simple to circumvent, use google.
[05:33] <intelikey> iceman johntheripper
[05:33] <bob2> caonex__: I'd be very surprised if the ubuntu drivers didn't work, but if so, I'd file a bug and then install the ati drivers manually
[05:33] <iceman> bob2 why i'm asking ... thats helps some ...
[05:33] <caonex__> bob2, did you see what i sent you?
[05:33] <caonex__> bob2, the private
[05:33] <bob2> caonex__: no
[05:33] <caonex__> bob2, i sent you a private
[05:33] <WebLOCH> im back
[05:33] <bob2> caonex__: ok
[05:34] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, are you still about ?
[05:34] <yddrasil> anyone in here install ubuntu on mac to dual boot?
[05:34] <caonex__> bob2, did you get it already?
[05:34] <bob2> caonex__: no
[05:34] <bob2> yddrasil: lots of people have
[05:34] <bob2> iceman: http://www.unix.com/archive/index.php/t-18760.html
[05:34] <caonex__> bob2, let me pastebin it
[05:34] <burepe> I got a harddrive I can't unmount, any suggestions?
[05:34] <iceman> So, it's a few years old server, pulled working ... believe the guy has the UNIX software, but if i get it, I would much rather put "LINUX" on it ...
[05:34] <burepe> I get a device is busy error
[05:34] <bungle> I am so sure I haven't found the right source file for kubuntu .. it has to be bigger than 7k
[05:34] <bob2> iceman: "UNIX" is not a useful description of the OS
[05:34] <bob2> bungle: install kubuntu-desktop
[05:35] <bob2> iceman: it's presumably AIX
[05:35] <bob2> burepe: wtf
[05:35] <bob2> burepe: lsof | grep baby
[05:35] <caonex__> bob2, http://caonex.pastebin.com/410652
[05:35] <burepe> I never got it fixed
[05:35] <caonex__> bob2, look i still do not want to file a bug because i want to understand the problem
[05:35] <iceman> bob2 he just called it "UNIX" so yea i'm using the "general term" i would guess AIX as well ...
[05:35] <yarddog> when i click on a movie trailer file from quicktime.com, it wants to open totem, i want it to open mplayer, how can i remedy this?
[05:36] <bob2> iceman: then he/she is clueless or confused
[05:36] <burepe> bob2, just returns
[05:36] <caonex__> bob2, i wanted to show you that because i have found different ways of doiong that and i want to make sure that i use the one that is right and wont mess my system up
[05:36] <bob2> burepe: and lsof | grep /dev/whateverthedevicenameis
[05:36] <iceman> So, basicly it's a PPC ... any one have a link to Debian compatability ?
[05:37] <Noli> bob2, I'll try a manual install, thanks anyhow :)
[05:37] <bob2> Noli: what?
[05:37] <bob2> Noli: just upgrade to breezy
[05:37] <bob2> iceman: http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/
[05:37] <burepe> bob2,  posted in flood
[05:37] <Noli> bob2, I can't, don't have a copy/can't get a copy
[05:37] <bob2> burepe: "cd / && sudo umount /media/baby120"
[05:37] <caonex__> bob2, my private messages are being blocked
[05:37] <iceman> bob2 "HE" is about 70, and has a lot of OLD junk.. but this Server is fairly new ... he has some old Quad P75's ... but this is a lot newer
[05:37] <bob2> Noli: if you have internet access, you can upgrade
[05:37] <bob2> caonex__: that's fine
[05:38] <caonex__> bob2, did you understand the divert command
[05:38] <colen> bob2:  I got mplayer working now, as for the codecs, I downlaoded w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb, but not certain on what to do next.
[05:38] <Noli> bob2, only if I want to wait 12 days while it downloads...
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> HI folks I am compling a command line yahoo messenger
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> I am getting this error
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> root@ash:/home/ashish/freehoo# ./autogen.sh
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> + aclocal
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> + autoheader
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> + libtoolize --force --automake --copy
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> + automake --gnu --include-deps --copy --add-missing
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> configure.ac: 16: required file `./[config.h] .in' not found
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> + autoconf
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> root@ash:/home/ashish/freehoo# automake
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> configure.ac: 16: required file `./[config.h] .in' not found
[05:38] <bob2> ar linuxgeek2
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> root@ash:/home/ashish/freehoo#
[05:38] <xsquared> linuxgeek2: paste somewhere else
[05:38] <burepe> bob2,  i think it worked. I did the same thing yesterday, weird. thanks alot
[05:38] <bob2> colen: sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> I am sorry
[05:38] <bob2> burepe: np
[05:39] <xsquared> linuxgeek2: and, don't compile your own
[05:39] <linuxgeek2> What should I do ?
[05:39] <xsquared> linuxgeek2: does gaim support yahoo?
[05:39] <linuxgeek2> yes gaim
[05:39] <linuxgeek2> Supports
[05:39] <linuxgeek2> I want to use freehoo
[05:39] <linuxgeek2> commandline yahoo messenger
[05:39] <xsquared> linuxgeek2: then, if you want to use command line, use bitlbee
[05:40] <xsquared> bitlbee > ALL.
[05:40] <burepe> bob2, yeah! can delete with the gui!
[05:40] <bob2> yeah
[05:40] <colen> bob2: thank you.
[05:40] <xsquared> check it out, it kicks ass
[05:40] <linuxgeek2> it's an IRC
[05:40] <bob2> caonex__: yes
[05:40] <linuxgeek2> i want an yahoo messenger
[05:40] <xsquared> linuxgeek2: dude
[05:40] <xsquared> linuxgeek2: it is a gateway
[05:40] <linuxgeek2> ok
[05:40] <linuxgeek2> SO u mean I can use it
[05:40] <linuxgeek2> ?
[05:41] <xsquared> linuxgeek2: that way, you can use irssi or bitchx to connect to it and then will use yahoo
[05:41] <iceman> cant find it in IBM's website// this is the size of a small Refrigiator ...
[05:42] <WebLOCH> Anyone here got the jdk working with the jvm ?
[05:42] <WebLOCH> Im having yet more trouble
[05:42] <Mabus06> What kind of files will the Totem Movie Player play?
[05:43] <P8ntKid> How come in breezy Totem wont start?
[05:44] <smithr5> hello everyone
[05:44] <TiMiDo> hello smithr5
[05:45] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: try the xine version instead of the gstreamer version - that worked for me w/ Breezy
[05:45] <Gigglesworth> WebLoch: You sure you have the JDK installed? I think you installed the JRE before.
[05:45] <WebLOCH> Gigglesworth, well i compiled some java
[05:46] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: ??? I dont understand what you mean...
[05:46] <WebLOCH> Gigglesworth, so im guessing its installed haha
[05:46] <WebLOCH> Gigglesworth, I did specifically install it too
[05:46] <Chizn> how do i figure out what drive i need to mount to get my fat 32 files?
[05:46] <Gigglesworth> Guess so ;)
[05:46] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: search Synaptic for "xine" - there's an alternate version of Totem called totem-xine -- totem-gstreamer is the other version
[05:47] <bward> is ubuntu suppose to automatically recognize bluetooth devices
[05:47] <intelikey> Chizn "fdisk -l /dev/hd* "
[05:47] <bward> or is there something that i need to configure
[05:47] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: How would i start totem-xine then?
[05:47] <colen> in mplayer I am not able to get my videos any bigger then there orignal size, any ideas?
[05:47] <bob2> bward: depends what you mean
[05:47] <bob2> colen: mplayer -fs blah.avi
[05:47] <intelikey> Chizn "fdisk -l /dev/sd* " <-- if it is scsi drive
[05:47] <Chizn> right got it, how do i make sure it mounts every time?
[05:47] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: it starts exactly the same. it's just a codecs change, AFAIK
[05:48] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: I mean what is the command to start the new totem thing?
[05:48] <intelikey> add it to /etc/fstab
[05:48] <Chizn> thank you
[05:48] <bward> i have this microsoft bluetooth keyboard and mouse
[05:48] <Doonz> any raid guys aroudn
[05:48] <bward> but it doesn't work with ubuntu
[05:48] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: install it; I think it'll remove totem-gstreamer. it just takes over as "totem", I guess
[05:48] <bward> at least not yet
[05:48] <iceman> what is a 2395-1521 Processor ? ? ?
[05:49] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: I try "totem" and i get an error
[05:49] <intelikey> Chizn you know about "man * " pages ?
[05:49] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: Go to #flood and i will post the eror.
[05:49] <bob2> iceman: no need for more than one question mark
[05:49] <bob2> iceman: also, google really had no hits?
[05:50] <iceman> looking a Simular machins on "EBAY" for idea what it might be ?
[05:50] <bytefoo> first hit :/
[05:50] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: are you trying to start from the command line?
[05:50] <bob2> iceman: what is your native language, out of interest?
[05:50] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: Yes.
[05:50] <bytefoo> IBM AS400 820/ with 2395/1521 V4R5
[05:51] <iceman> english . ?
[05:51] <classof04> as400? running linux on it?
[05:52] <classof04> can anyone tell me if recompiling my kernel will make my computer run faster on linux?
[05:52] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: try to start it by just clicking on an audio or video file... I've never actually tried to start Totem from terminal before
[05:52] <bob2> colen: no
[05:52] <bob2> er
[05:52] <bob2> classof04: no
[05:52] <yarddog> when i click on a movie trailer file from quicktime.com, it wants to open totem, i want it to open mplayer, how can i remedy this?
[05:52] <classof04> i have an athlon 600, 256mb, 60G 7200rpm
[05:52] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: I dont use Nautilius.
[05:52] <Gigglesworth> Bward: have you tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup ?
[05:52] <classof04> my windows 2000 system beats my buntu system in every single performance parametre
[05:52] <intelikey> classof04 highly unlikely that you can squeeze enough out of it to ever measure.
[05:52] <iceman> this is a newer system than the  //  IBM AS/400
[05:52] <iceman> System Type: 9406
[05:52] <iceman> Model: 170
[05:52] <iceman> O/S: Version 4, Release 3
[05:52] <bob2> classof04: sounds like your benchmarks are crap
[05:52] <bward> no i haven't
[05:53] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: then try in whatever file manager you do use...
[05:53] <iceman> nothing this new on EBAY ...
[05:53] <classof04> bob2 i just don't get it man. i am not even running kde or gnome. i use xfce4 just so things will run fast
[05:53] <jafo> How do I create a new initrd in Breezy?
[05:53] <bob2> classof04: what do you think is slow?
[05:53] <Amaranth> mkinitramfs
[05:53] <bob2> jafo: what are yo utrying to do?
[05:53] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: I use rox
[05:53] <Gigglesworth> Bward: Looks like bluetooth may not be supported out of the box. Give that wikipage a whirl.
[05:53] <jafo> bob2: Build a new initrd.
[05:53] <cantona> buy a new cpu or add more ram is better
[05:53] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: but i prefer to use a terminal
[05:54] <bob2> jafo: for the purposes of...
[05:54] <bytefoo> theres a V4R5 second hit on ebay...
[05:54] <classof04> bob2 slow means when i open say 4-5 new tabs in firefox real quick, firefox doesn't freeze in windows, it freezes (processes data) in ubuntu and returns after 5-7 seconds
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> I had to install a few extra packages to get my bluetooth stuff working..
[05:54] <jafo> bob2: Booting.
[05:54] <bward> everything i've seen online says that with the 2.6 kernel everythign should do it for me
[05:54] <bward> but apparently not
[05:54] <bob2> jafo: okiedokie then
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> i also found it worked better with the kde tools then gnomes stuff.
[05:54] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: regarding your msg in flood, do try switching to totem-xine, I got something similar to that msg w/ totem-gstreamer in Breezy. Totem-xine runs fine.
[05:54] <canindya> I upgraded from hoary to breezy
[05:54] <jafo> I didn't realize it was such a complicated question.
[05:54] <classof04> bob2 booting is nowhere near as fast with linux.
[05:54] <canindya> but my display is screwed now
[05:54] <bob2> jafo: I'm wondering *why* you're trying to regenerate it
[05:54] <bob2> classof04: have you tried suspend-to-disk?
[05:54] <cantona> any gnome applet for switch the cpufreq?
[05:54] <yarddog> am i being ignored or doesnt anyone have an answer for me?
[05:55] <abrahams> now that I am on breezy I love it
[05:55] <iceman> this is going to be "I Believe the older IBM E seriers" 64 bit system ... but thats a guess ... now it's hack the "Unix" install or install a Linux based OS .... dont think it will run Winblows ...
[05:55] <canindya> I tried dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg but without any success
[05:55] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: How do i start totem-xine
[05:55] <Gigglesworth> Bward: The kernel may support bluetooth, but you may need some utilities to do anything with it.
[05:55] <classof04> bob2 - the worst feature of linux is that when you open the .config file with make menuconfig you find that half of the useful apm features aren't built into your default kernel
[05:55] <bob2> classof04: ? ls /boot/config*
[05:55] <Nihil85> linuxac, are you in?
[05:56] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: via terminal? I have no idea. try thru your file manager of choice w/ a file, like I suggested earlier
[05:56] <classof04> bob2 yes that's what i meant
[05:56] <Gigglesworth> yarddog: maybe we don't know the answer ;) Don't take it personally.
[05:56] <classof04> bob2 but why does windows 2000 boot and run apps so much faster? i even used BUM to shut of the garbage in linux.. i even removed printing support
[05:57] <jafo> bob2: Because the new kernel I am trying to boot does not have an initrd, and because of udev stuff I need one, and I can't find documentation after hunting around on how to build a new initrd.  I guess I can just unpack the current initrd and take out the crap I don't need and re-package it.  I just figured that Ubuntu would have a tool like mkinitrd.
[05:57] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: or, if you use Gnome, Applications menu --> Sound & Video --> Totem Movie Player
[05:57] <abrahams> does any one have any way of watching dvds, I know it sounds like a dumb question but I am tired of usin my tv and want to use my moniter
[05:57] <Linuxiac> Nihil85 has a NVidia Fx5200 that blanks out upon starting up Ubuntu Breezy Install DVD.  Any hope?
[05:57] <bob2> jafo: if you're building your own kernel, it's easier to just avoid using an initrd/initramfs
[05:57] <intelikey> mkinitrd
[05:57] <bob2> jafo: (breezy uses initramf, mkinitramfs)
[05:57] <Chizn> how would i make a link on my desktop to /mnt/win ?
[05:58] <iceman> would like to figure out what Distro of Linux to get for the IBM server ?
[05:58] <bob2> classof04: "garbage" is a rather poor term for it
[05:58] <yarddog> isnt there a file extension chooser in gnome?
[05:58] <classof04> aix iceman?
[05:58] <canindya> Chizn : mount the drive in some folder
[05:58] <Chizn> like /home/win?
[05:58] <intelikey> Chizn "ln -s /mnt/win <path>win "
[05:58] <yarddog> mplayer is installed but on the quicktime site, it goes to totem instead, wtf
[05:58] <Chizn> ah ok
[05:58] <Chizn> thankssssss
[05:58] <intelikey> Chizn being any place you want it.
[05:58] <classof04> bob2 i am sorry but 9 graphics apps yet 0 support for wireless cards is garbage to me. there's a mountain pile of "garbage" packages and apps that ubuntu packs in that stock debian doesn't touch with a ten foot pole.
[05:58] <absent> is there a mp3 player with a media lybrary and playlist manager like winamp for Ubuntu?
[05:58] <bob2> yarddog: did you install the mozilla mplayer plugin?
[05:59] <iceman> classof04 I would guess this IBM server has AIX installed, but it's Passworded, and I would rather set up a new clean OS Install
[05:59] <bob2> classof04: awesome, good luck
[05:59] <Hackel> I'm trying to setup my wireless network adapter (ndiswrapper) and I found I have to manually edit /etc/network/interfaces to add the "open" to my wireless-key line before they actual key.  Is there a way to do this through the GUI, or another work-around?
[05:59] <yarddog> bob2, what is the file for that? apt cant find it
[05:59] <Madpilot> absent: try Rythymbox or Muine
[05:59] <classof04> Hackel get the package wireless-tools
[05:59] <absent> Madpilot: ty
[05:59] <bob2> yarddog: it's in multiverse
[06:00] <Hackel> classof04, Of course I have wireless-tools installed, otherwise I wouldn't be able to get the connection up at all!
[06:00] <yarddog> bob2, what is it called?
[06:00] <bob2> yarddog: mozilla-mplayer - MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla
[06:00] <bward> so the wikipage for bluetooth stuff doesn't say much of anything
[06:00] <yarddog> bob2, thanks
[06:01] <durt> hackel: sudo gedit (or pico or whatever) /etc/network/interfaces, is that what your asking?
[06:01] <classof04> i see what you're saying Hackel i don't know any good way. i had to write a batch file to run on startup to initialize all of my parametres. i turned bluetooth off and transmit always at 54megs
[06:01] <classof04> durt for any graphics apps, it's gksudo
[06:01] <WalrusU> Are the Ubuntu package repositories sandboxed to certain versions? A program I downloaded seems to want higher libraries than what's available.
[06:01] <classof04> is anyone here running a win2k/ubuntu dual boot?
[06:01] <iceman> whats the command to install a "run" file ?
[06:02] <iceman> ./ i thought
[06:02] <RancidLM> hey all im using grub and i don't have a cdrom on my pc.. i have a cd i would like to boot to so i imaged the cd and cloned it to a partition.. is there any way to boot to the partition like it was a cdrom boot?
[06:02] <linuxgeek2> Gnome almost takes 10 minutes to load from my gdm screen does anyone has a fix for that
[06:02] <linuxgeek2> ?
[06:02] <bob2> WalrusU: no
[06:02] <classof04> make sure you have the right chmod on it iceman
[06:02] <yarddog> bob2, installed it, but firefox still wants to open totem
[06:02] <agt> iceman, u might have to chmod +x it first
[06:02] <bob2> WalrusU: packages of cours Depend on other packages in the same ubuntu release, though
[06:02] <bob2> yarddog: ok
[06:02] <Gigglesworth> bward: What happens when you run the commands on that page, such as 'hcitool dev'? Does it see any devices?
[06:02] <iluciv> hi anyone useing breezy as a mythtv box??
[06:02] <bward> yeah it sees the device
[06:02] <durt> linuxgeek2: nope - gnome is slow
[06:02] <classof04> linuxgeek2 use xfce4. gnome is decent but kde is sowshidt
[06:03] <WalrusU> bob2: this was an external program I downloaded. Not within the package manager
[06:03] <iceman> agt ? i'm learning ... ok heres the file .. et-linux-2.60.x86.run what to type to install it
[06:03] <classof04> linuxgeek2 actually ubuntu is just a slow flavour of linux. get stock debian. i couldn't get ndiswrapper to work after spending hours on it
[06:03] <WalrusU> bob2: .deb file though
[06:03] <Gigglesworth> It should see two devices, right? One for keyboard, one for mouse...
[06:03] <Madpilot> iceman: there's an Enemy Territory page on the ubuntu wiki
[06:03] <bob2> WalrusU: then it's not designed for whatever version of ubuntu you're using
[06:03] <bward> no it just sees one
[06:03] <bob2> WalrusU: you'll need to find one that is, or build it yourself
[06:03] <agt> iceman, 'chmod +x <filename>' then './<filename>
[06:04] <yarddog> how can i get mplayer to work in firefox?
[06:04] <bward> but when i do lsusb it sees both the keyboard and the mouse
[06:04] <Madpilot> iceman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[06:04] <linuxgeek2> I am sure there must be a fix for this. If I disable the wireless and the normal network port then it seems to be booting faster
[06:04] <WalrusU> bob2: I'm not at the point where I even understand what "build it myself" would entail. I assume that even with source I'd have to know something about what I'm configuring?
[06:04] <classof04> is anyone here running a win2k/ubuntu dual boot and had a chance to measure : Firefox, opera, xmms, boot time, and amsn/gaim performance?
[06:04] <K-Mode> Does Ubuntu 5.10 Not Have An MP3 Player?
[06:04] <bob2> linuxgeek2: fix /etc/network/interfaces so they dont' come up on boot
[06:04] <bob2> WalrusU: yes
[06:04] <durt> classof04: any ideas on speeding ubuntu up?'
[06:04] <dabaR> classof04: yes. 3.4
[06:04] <bob2> K-Mode: English Is Fine HEre
[06:04] <linuxgeek2> bob2, oh!
[06:04] <bob2> K-Mode: and yes, no mp3 decoder is installed by default
[06:05] <bob2> K-Mode: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:05] <lsald> !tell K-Mode about mp3
[06:05] <iceman> agt  thanks .. that did the trick ... one of these days i'll get a printer installed in linux,and start printing howto pages ...
[06:05] <Gigglesworth> xmms's performance is horrible in w2k ;)
[06:05] <classof04> durt i give up man i've been working with debian for 2 years and with ubuntu for 4-6 months.. no help man. it's just slow as a dog.
[06:05] <K-Mode> Thanks For The Info
[06:05] <linuxgeek2> what do I need to do in the file /etc/network/interfaces ? bob2
[06:05] <classof04> dabaR what's 3.4? you have dualbooted win2k and ubuntu?
[06:05] <WebLOCH> classof04, you think debian is faster?
[06:05] <robotgeek> classof04: measure is a very relative term
[06:06] <bob2> linuxgeek2: remove the "auto" lines for insterfaces you don't want to have come up at boot
[06:06] <yarddog> no one knows how to make mplayer work in firefox?
[06:06] <WebLOCH> yarddog, did you download the firefox plugin?
[06:06] <iceman> Ok, now who can help me get the Nvidia Driver installed .. I have tosted 2 installs because of a incomplete Nvidia Install followinf the how to page ..
[06:06] <durt> yarddog: mozplugger
[06:06] <classof04> WebLOCH actually win2k beats linux (ATLEAST ON MY SYSTEM) but yes stock debian tosses ubuntu in cold water speedwise
[06:06] <yarddog> WebLOCH, yup
[06:06] <dabaR> classof04: its my measure
[06:06] <bob2> iceman: holy god
[06:06] <bob2> iceman: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:06] <yarddog> durt, that is installed too
[06:06] <WebLOCH> yarddog, no idea then buddy
[06:06] <yarddog> great
[06:06] <WalrusU> bob2: If Ubuntu is based off of debian though, I was under the impression that it could share package files
[06:06] <WebLOCH> classof04, win2k outperforms linux?
[06:06] <iceman> bob2 thats what keeps killing me ...
[06:06] <bob2> WalrusU: no, not at all
[06:07] <linuxgeek2> If I hibernate the laptop then this problem is not there
[06:07] <bob2> WalrusU: you can't share packages between Debian Sid and Debian Satrge, either
[06:07] <linuxgeek2> ?
[06:07] <WalrusU> oh. :/
[06:07] <lsald> classof04, i think you just need to turn some services off
[06:07] <yarddog> gnome dont have a file extension handler?
[06:07] <classof04> robotgeek i don't know robotgeek i listed my apps that i am trying to get you to measure. same memory, same system.. just dualbooted
[06:07] <yarddog> this is nuts
[06:07] <WalrusU> guess I'll start reading about what to do with sourcecode then
[06:07] <XxX> #ubuntu-es  is dead ????????
[06:07] <bob2> WalrusU: what are you trying to install?
[06:07] <classof04> WebLOCH yes windows 2000 loads apps (and more importantly those apps' response times) and boots a lot faster than linux on my computer atleast
[06:08] <cantona> classof04: windows is different with linux
[06:08] <intelikey> gnome-mime-data ?
[06:08] <robotgeek> you might have a problem with measuring xmms, gaim is too lightweight to make a difference :)
[06:08] <yarddog> bob2, you can mix packages in debian between stable and sid, its very easy and posted on the debian site how to do it
[06:08] <cantona> classof04: why compare two diffrent things
[06:08] <WalrusU> dksc-plotter_3.2.2.deb , it's kindof a specialty program with limited interest
[06:08] <burepe> question: I got bittorrent and bittornado installed, but bittornado doesn't come up in the applications list. How can I add an application to the applications list?
[06:08] <WebLOCH> more importantly isnt all this kind of talk due in offtopic
[06:08] <bob2> yarddog: uh, no
[06:09] <classof04> robotgeek it's firefox and opera that lay waste to ubuntu. FF just freezes if i open a dozen tabs (returns control after 30 seconds).. i windows no problem.
[06:09] <bob2> yarddog: not without terrible apt pinning games
[06:09] <iceman> bob2 I see nothing there thats actualy tells the system to "Install" the Nvidia Driver ...
[06:09] <dabaR> yarddog: like what? a file extension manager being what?
[06:09] <yarddog> bob2, heh, ill get the url then
[06:09] <bob2> yarddog: that involve upgrading large chunks of your system to sid
[06:09] <lsald> classof04, are you sure your not running linux in a vmware environment ;)
[06:09] <bob2> iceman: w. t. f.
[06:09] <robotgeek> classof04: let's take this into #offtopic
[06:09] <yarddog> dabaR, you dont know what a file extension manager is? kde has one, so does windows
[06:09] <sizzam> anyone have a solution for removing beep-media-player taskbar button (other than alltray)
[06:09] <yarddog> lol
[06:09] <bob2> iceman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:10] <dabaR> yarddog: no, not under taht name I dont.
[06:10] <iceman> bob2 "NEWBIE" here ... Reading, maybe not understanding .. http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installnvidiadriver
[06:10] <dabaR> yarddog: explain what it does.
[06:10] <classof04> alright let's take it.. i'll give you ssh into my system if you wanna make changes :) but i trust you lol
[06:10] <bob2> iceman: dude
[06:10] <iceman> as i said following that, i have blowen 2 installs
[06:10] <yarddog> dabaR, changes what program handles what file extension
[06:10] <bob2> iceman: I've told you five thousand times
[06:10] <bob2> iceman: no, follow it again, and do everything it says, line by line
[06:10] <yarddog> dabaR, like making mplayer handle a .wmp file
[06:11] <dabaR> yarddog: do you mean from within a browser when you click on a link, or within a file manager or what?
[06:11] <iceman> bob2 ok.. one stupid question, where it sayus to save the "file" does it matter where you save it
[06:11] <yarddog> dabaR, from within firefox
[06:11] <dabaR> yarddog: well, that has nothing to do with gnome.
[06:11] <yarddog> dabaR, gnome doesnt have one?
[06:11] <dabaR> yarddog: do you want totem to be used for any type of files?
[06:11] <bob2> iceman: um, the page I pointed you at does not include the word "file" at all
[06:11] <classof04> is there an optimization guide for ubuntu ? should i remove any daemons?
[06:12] <cronik> hi everyone
[06:12] <dabaR> yarddog: there is an app that selects whatarew the preferred apps, theer is something xcalled Properties>Open With in nautilous, and so on.
[06:12] <yarddog> dabaR, totem wont play the quicktime files from quicktime.com movie trailers
[06:12] <dabaR> yarddog: do you want totem to be used for any type of files?
[06:12] <yarddog> no
[06:12] <varsedangger> waht about mplayer?
[06:12] <varsedangger> what
[06:12] <dabaR> yarddog: well, then remove the link.
[06:12] <yarddog> dabaR, it wont uninstall either
[06:12] <iceman> bob2 then i have been reading wrong page ... i see that now ... i've been reading  this .... http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installnvidiadriver
[06:12] <yarddog> dabaR, deps
[06:13] <bob2> iceman: *sob*
[06:13] <cronik> why can"t i see any of the members in this chat room, here is that link to the chat http://www.h2kclan.com//index.php?ind=chat
[06:13] <Gigglesworth> iceman: The location does matter. "gedit /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop" will open a new file named /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop
[06:14] <iceman> bob2 thats where sometimes people says "check the wiki page" alone can screw a person up ...
[06:14] <bob2> iceman: "wiki page" = "page on wiki.ubuntu.com"
[06:14] <Gigglesworth> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia definately looks more straightforward then the other page.
[06:14] <spackest> so, I installed 5.10 on a server and I think the cool, new graphical page breaks my install
[06:14] <jafo> bob2: Thanks.  That pointed me in the right direction.
[06:14] <dabaR> yarddog: sudo mv /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotem_mozilla.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotem_mozilla.not_so
[06:15] <spackest> I get some weird video errors
[06:15] <spackest> any way I can get a pure text boot?
[06:15] <yarddog> bob2, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version
[06:15] <iceman> bob2 this is a "ubuntu howto link ... http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installnvidiadriver
[06:15] <bob2> spackest: that's unlikely to be the case
[06:15] <bob2> yarddog: yes, I know about that, and it has the prolems I mention
[06:15] <WalrusU> I should see if there's a howto on ATI... I have an All In Wonder Pro, Rage Pro chipset that's not supported in the big ATI raedon driver
[06:15] <Linuxiac> But, I have question about nVidia fx5200, where it blanks out, and I think it is possibly incorrect refresh rate.
[06:15] <yarddog> dabaR, dumb question here, but mozilla is not installed on this system by default....
[06:15] <iceman> bob2 but the page you sent me does tell the system to get the needed driver ... that the other page lacks ...
[06:15] <Chizn> where can i get a pack of codecs for totem?
[06:16] <_Caleb_> sup guys
[06:16] <bob2> WalrusU: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:16] <Chizn> and HOW do i install them?
[06:16] <spackest> bob2: well, I have a box just like it that boots just fine with 5.04
[06:16] <_Caleb_> one thing
[06:16] <bob2> spackest: and the errors are...
[06:16] <_Caleb_> how do i update the kernel/
[06:16] <_Caleb_> ?
[06:16] <Linuxiac> Funny, I grabbed Mozilla in synaptic...
[06:16] <yarddog> does mozilla need to be installed for mplayer to work in firefox?
[06:16] <iceman> brb ... i hope ...
[06:16] <spackest> bob2: downstairs :)
[06:16] <bob2> _Caleb_: why do you want to update it?
[06:16] <_Caleb_> well i was wondering is there something different to do to update it
[06:16] <varsedangger> anybody been able to install mplayer with gui?
[06:17] <spackest> is there a boot flag I could try?
[06:17] <dabaR> yarddog: sudo mv /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotem_mozilla.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotem_mozilla.not_so
[06:17] <yarddog> varsedangger, yes, but i cant get it to work in firefox
[06:17] <_Caleb_> im just using the server install of ubuntu
[06:17] <Linuxiac> I am having fun trying to get my webcam up...  Creative that works well in xawtv on Knoppix
[06:17] <bob2> _Caleb_: why would you want to update it?
[06:17] <varsedangger> --- it is mumbling something aobut x11 not enables or soemthing
[06:17] <bob2> dabaR: hah
[06:17] <_Caleb_> in case it needed it?
[06:17] <varsedangger> darnit
[06:17] <foampeace> ls
[06:17] <K-Mode> I Get This Runtime Error Installing The MP3 Codec (Failed To Write To Pipe In Copy). Anyone Know What This Means?
[06:17] <_Caleb_> google it
[06:17] <foampeace> i mean uh...lsello
[06:17] <bob2> _Caleb_: apt-get or synaptic or whatever will upgrade it automatically as security updates are released
[06:17] <varsedangger> yarddog, how did you get it bast X11
[06:17] <bob2> K-Mode: please fix your IRC client
[06:18] <bob2> K-Mode: also, paste the actual erro to #flood
[06:18] <_Caleb_> ahh was thinking that
[06:18] <yarddog> dabaR, i love you :P
[06:18] <_Caleb_> just wondering bob2
[06:18] <foampeace> bob2: theres a setting to update auto?
[06:18] <yarddog> dabaR, it worked
[06:18] <dabaR> bob2: he does not want to get it till I repeat it for some reason:)
[06:18] <franky> can some one help me please,I am new to linux and
[06:18] <dabaR> yarddog: yes, I know, that is why I told you to do it.
[06:18] <intelikey> spackest boot flag     vga=normal 1      pure text boot
[06:18] <franky> im trying to download divx
[06:19] <dabaR> yarddog: actually, what is funny, is that he told me how to do it the other day...
[06:19] <yarddog> dabaR, :P
[06:19] <_Caleb_> xvid
[06:19] <bob2> foampeace: update-notifier will bug you when it's ready
[06:19] <yarddog> dabaR, kewl
[06:19] <Doonz> can you run raid 5 with 8 drives?
[06:19] <spackest> intelikey: thanks, I will go try it out
[06:19] <bob2> franky: what are you trying to do?
[06:19] <Gigglesworth> _caleb_ compiling the kernel on your own isn't for the faint of heart. Play with Ubuntu for a while, get familiar with it, and maybe try to compile on a spare computer or with the live-cd.
[06:19] <bob2> dabaR: you can run it with any number of drives above 2
[06:19] <franky> download and run divx
[06:20] <bob2> franky: why would you do that?
[06:20] <bob2> franky: is your goal to be able to watch divx-encoded videos?
[06:20] <canindya> after upgrading from hoary to breezy my gnome-display is not working, I tried with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it reports  borken/not fully installed
[06:20] <canindya> any poiners
[06:20] <franky> yes
[06:20] <dabaR> Doonz: see the post from bob2 above to me.
[06:20] <bob2> franky: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:20] <iceman> shit, now gnome and kde will not start
[06:21] <bob2> no
[06:21] <franky> and that is what i need to check out
[06:21] <Chizn> i need to be able to play avi's but for some reason i dont have the codec and i dont know where to put them once i get them, any help? im sure there will be other codecs i need for other movies too.. is there a pack i could get?
[06:21] <bob2> do you mean X won't start?
[06:21] <nick_> how do I watch a DVD on my DVD-ROM with a fresh install of breezy?
[06:21] <bob2> Chizn: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:21] <intelikey> canindya "man apt-get "  and look for the part about fixing that
[06:21] <bob2> nick_: you too
[06:21] <Doonz> ok thanx guys
[06:21] <franky> thanks bob
[06:21] <iceman> bob2 i got x started, but in loging in i get a errer that the session laster less than 10 seconds and then it wants me to log in again
[06:22] <bob2> uh
[06:22] <bob2> gdm runs fine then?
[06:22] <Gigglesworth> But you have a graphical screen in front of you?
[06:22] <iceman> Session log in screen comes up, but im in failsafe now ...
[06:23] <bob2> that sounds a lot like X is not starting
[06:23] <iceman> yea gui now ... failsafe ..
[06:23] <bob2> what?
[06:23] <iceman> in failsafe terminal ... to chat ..
[06:23] <bob2> right
[06:23] <bob2> now run "gnome-session"
[06:24] <iceman> have to close chat to type any command
[06:24] <iceman> brb
[06:24] <bob2> no
[06:24] <bob2> open another xterm
[06:24] <iceman> ok .. ?
[06:24] <iceman> how ?
[06:24] <bob2> dude
[06:24] <bob2> xterm&
[06:25] <iceman> still have to close chat ...
[06:25] <iceman> brb ?
[06:25] <iceman> k
[06:25] <Gigglesworth> Use ctrl-alt-f2 to open another virtual terminal?
[06:26] <canindya> intelikey : I tried to reinstall nvidia-glx ,but it says depends nvidia-kernel apt-get -f install wont help either
[06:26] <Gigglesworth> chat from one virtual terminal, and try to start X with the second virtual terminal?
[06:26] <iceman> that took me to a command prompt screen
[06:26] <iceman> cant run 2 x sessions it says .. x running
[06:27] <bob2> don't run X
[06:27] <bob2> run an xterm
[06:27] <shekhar> can someone help me with gtkwifi?
[06:27] <Gigglesworth> Oh, I'm confused. I thought X wasn't working for you at all. Do what Bob said.
[06:27] <mhz> Anyone know where i can download MN720-ankh.inf from?
[06:27] <robotgeek> shekhar: what is the problem. i hope u mean the gtk-wifi applet?
[06:27] <nalioth> mhz: if uncle google doesnt know, doubtful we will
[06:27] <canindya> Gigglesworth, : I chatting with my laptop my desktop is screwed
[06:28] <iceman> cant open display
[06:28] <WalrusU> Uncle Google, Cousin Wiki, Neice Forum and Father bob2
[06:28] <mhz> nalioth: good argument
[06:28] <bob2> iceman: ok, you're not explaining your problem very clearly
[06:28] <iceman> let me close chat ... start a second xterm and restart chat
[06:28] <bob2> iceman: are you in X or not?
[06:28] <shekhar> robotgeek:  yes, i want to know how i can configure it so that the network name is also displayed in the panel... i think the older version gave this option, but since i upgraded to breezy it's not there
[06:28] <intelikey> canindya did you try installing nvidia-kernel ?
[06:28] <iceman> im in x here   ctl - alt - f2 to the non gui ..
[06:28] <sardopsycho> ok gang...need help here
[06:29] <robotgeek> shekhar: no idea, i used it once. stopped once i started using network-manager. i had issues installing gtk-wifi, but managed to fix it
[06:29] <canindya> intelikey, : yep it says no installation candidate
[06:29] <iceman> can "xterm&" get to xterminal windows start in gui ?
[06:29] <robotgeek> iceman: xterm & , me thinks
[06:29] <intelikey> all your sources enabled ?
[06:29] <Gigglesworth> but whatever you do, don't go asking your Stepuncle Bill for driver support.
[06:30] <iceman> brb
[06:30] <shekhar> robotgeek:  what is network-manager (pardon my ignorance)?
[06:30] <robotgeek> shekhar: you can install it on breezy
[06:30] <robotgeek> !tell shekhar about network-manager
[06:30] <Chizn> bob2 are all of the codecs stored in a central location then?
[06:30] <shekhar> robotgeek:  thanks...
[06:31] <iceman> brb
[06:31] <bob2> Chizn: no
[06:31] <bob2> Chizn: codecs is a poor term for this
[06:31] <Chizn> support?
[06:31] <Chizn> i can see how it would be.. located in many places if were talking about support
[06:31] <intelikey> some body tell the bot to tell me about sources please.
[06:31] <canindya> intelikey, : yes I copied the sources.list from ubuntuforum for breezy
[06:32] <bob2> Chizn: it's not located anywhere
[06:32] <Kal-El> hey all - what are your thoughts on Fedora C4 vs Ubuntu?
[06:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell intelikey about msg the bot
[06:32] <bob2> Chizn: "codecs" are just libraries
[06:32] <bob2> Kal-El: try both and see what you like
[06:32] <iceman> ok, ow 2 xterm's  open
[06:32] <bob2> Kal-El: if you want details about fedora, try #fedora
[06:32] <canindya> intelikey, : I am also getting error while installing libofx
[06:32] <Chizn> and if i follow the instruction in the URL you gave me, it will be ok?
[06:32] <iceman> now gnome-sessins in one ?
[06:32] <Kal-El> bob2, heh I am an avid Fedora fan - so am pretty familiar with it - I guess what the question should really be is how does Ubuntu differentiate itself from Fedora
[06:33] <burepe> Can somone tell me how to start bittornado with the gui?
[06:33] <intelikey> canindya i don't know then.  i'd have to install ubuntu to actually help you find it.     what's the error ?
[06:33] <sardopsycho> I do not have high speed and will not for about 4 weeks due to backlog in installs in my area.  So all I have is dial up.  I have two computers, a desktop with SoftV92 modem which is being deteced by Ubuntu as an HSF Micromodem.  And a Dell Inspiron 6000 Laptop with an AC97 Modem Controller on an Intel 82801FB board.  I have received instructions through the forums, but I cannot either modem to work or have been able to create a dial-up internet con
[06:33] <bob2> Kal-El: by being based on a less annoying package format, bu
[06:33] <Chizn> burepe "System > Prefs > sessions"
[06:33] <bob2> Kal-El: by including 15 000 odd packages, and having a simpler installer
[06:33] <bob2> burepe: btdownload<tab>
[06:34] <Chizn> oh yea, nevermind me.. lol
[06:34] <iceman> bob2 ok i have 2 Xterm's running ... now fixing the xsessions so i can get kde or Gnome up ..
[06:34] <WalrusU> 15 000 packages just means that there's another million not in the apt-get. It's handy but... I'm looking into other ways. *shrug* a lot of what I'm reading says debian packages should work just fine. *shrug*
[06:34] <NetDreamz> has anyone successfully installed VHCS on breezy yet?
[06:34] <burepe> Chizn, I don't understand
[06:34] <canindya> intelikey, If i run apt-get -f install it asks for installation of libofx2 but fails to install
[06:34] <bob2> WalrusU: uh, no
[06:35] <bob2> WalrusU: installing packages from Debian is not supported and will not in general work
[06:35] <bob2> WalrusU: if something is not in ubuntu that you'd like to be there, and it's under a Free license, you're welcome ot get it put in ubuntu
[06:35] <spackest> intelikey: sorry to be dumb, but where do I put that option?  in grub, I tried it on the kernel line, the init line and the boot line and it either didn't boot or still showed the screen
[06:35] <NetDreamz> how do u do that bob2?
[06:35] <NetDreamz> do it yourself or a request?
[06:36] <dabaR> NetDreamz: yes
[06:36] <bob2> NetDreamz: either
[06:36] <burepe> bob2, there are a bunch of commands I don't know which one starts the bittornado gui
[06:36] <caonex> bob2, should i do the command i showed you a while ago? did it seem right?
[06:36] <iceman> bob2 Ok, I got the second xterm open ... now what to do ..
[06:36] <dabaR> btdownload-gui
[06:37] <bob2> caonex: does it work?
[06:37] <chris_> has anyone get xd-memory card to work in ubuntu
[06:37] <intelikey> spackest at the grub boot spalsh/prompt [esc]   [e]    add "vga=normal  1 " to the append line  and  [b]  to boot.
[06:37] <NetDreamz> daba were u referring t omy last question or to my first one. Im' trying to find a way to get vhcs up and I'm a friggin newbie
[06:37] <WalrusU> bob2: well, I'm still reading... but 5 threads on ubuntuforums suggests it is
[06:37] <sardopsycho> anyone?
[06:37] <bob2> WalrusU: it's best to ignore the forums
[06:37] <bob2> WalrusU: url?
[06:37] <Stricklin> Is it possible for me to view QuickTime movies in Ubuntu?
[06:37] <WalrusU> bob2: lol
[06:37] <caonex> bob2, i have not tried it yet because i have seen different versions and i do not want to mess up the libraries or cause any conflict with apt how i have read
[06:37] <spackest> intelikey: thanks, will try that :)
[06:37] <caonex> bob2, i picked one that seemed right and wanted you to look at it and see if it seemed right because it has two parameters
[06:37] <bob2> caonex: you're installing junk from a tarball to /usr/, there's always going to be some potential for trouble
[06:37] <WalrusU> bob2: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33704 is the one open in my window at the moment
[06:37] <burepe> dabaR, that command with out the -gui starts bittorrent, I want to do bittornado
[06:38] <canindya> Is it possible to downgrade to hoary!
[06:38] <intelikey> canindya sorry i can't be of more help on that.  ask someone like nalioth or bob2  to help you with it.
[06:38] <Gigglesworth> Warlrus: It depends on many details of the package. Don't expect a Debian package to work in Ubuntu. But also you can't expect a Sid package to work in Sarge.
[06:38] <bob2> canindya: no
[06:38] <bob2> WalrusU: eh
[06:38] <iceman> bob2 there a command to uninstall the nvidia driver ... or how do i get gnome running again
[06:38] <bob2> WalrusU: that's not what they are saying
[06:38] <bob2> iceman: nope
[06:39] <bob2> iceman: follow the howto backwards
[06:39] <caonex> bob2,  i just do not know what to do. With the ati binary i do not get the utilities, and with the aliened deb version i do not get libgl from ati
[06:39] <iceman> bob2 cant read the howto ...
[06:39] <bob2> iceman: or show us your X logs and config file
[06:39] <intelikey> the nvidia thing that is.
[06:39] <bob2> caonex: why do you care about the utilities?
[06:39] <caonex> bob2, i want to check for the performance
[06:39] <canindya> intelikey, : thanks for helping
[06:39] <iceman> cant cut and paste .. i tried .. or dont know how
[06:39] <caonex> bob2, to see how good is performing
[06:40] <intelikey> np
[06:40] <bob2> iceman: then you'll need to figure something else out
[06:40] <bob2> iceman: for instance, "firefox&" from a terminal wil lrun firefox
[06:40] <bob2> iceman: "metacity" will run a a window manager, too
[06:40] <caonex> bob2, and i cant not see if is actually using libgl or libmesa
[06:40] <caonex> bob2, the only way is using one of the utilities
[06:41] <iceman> anyone url to pastbin ? please
[06:41] <Chizn> when i type the command "su" and enter my password why does the authentication fail?
[06:41] <bob2> iceman: /topic
[06:41] <durt> su needs the root password
[06:41] <bob2> Chizn: because you didn't read what the installer told you
[06:41] <intelikey> off hand anyone know a command to display file permissions in octal format ?
[06:41] <bob2> Chizn: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:42] <iceman> got firefox up ...
[06:43] <Gigglesworth> Iceman: So X *is* working then?
[06:43] <iceman> metacity did not start
[06:43] <bob2> intelikey: stat can
[06:43] <intelikey> Chizn because the 'su' command requires the passwd of the account you are switching too.
[06:43] <Gigglesworth> did metacity give you an error?
[06:43] <intelikey> ah stat.....   ty
[06:43] <iceman> gigglesworth x in a failsaft terminal is all .. cannot start gnome or kde
[06:43] <maruchan> anyone use gdesklet
[06:43] <maruchan> ?
[06:43] <Oferon> Good morning. I just woke up to the sound of my computer booting. There goes 10h of downloads. :( Anyone else had the same problem on Ubuntu 5.04? I had Synaptic on, downloading updates. Btw, we just changed from summertime to wintertime. does that matter?
[06:44] <bob2> WalrusU: "debian package" has two meanings: "package from Debian" and ".deb formatted file"
[06:44] <bob2> WalrusU: they mean the latter
[06:44] <bob2> Oferon: huh? it will pick up where it was last.
[06:44] <Stricklin> Anybody?
[06:44] <bob2> Stricklin: yes, of course
[06:44] <Doonz> how much actual space do you get on a 250gb hdd
[06:45] <bob2> Stricklin: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:45] <Stricklin> In a browser?
[06:45] <Peps> I upgraded my laptop to breezy, but can't find the acpi setup in GNOME????
[06:45] <WalrusU> bob2: okay well, I come across many deb packages marked "Download for Debian" on sites that don't even mention Ubuntu. In any case, I'm still reading lots
[06:45] <iceman> there a keyboard shortcut to cut and paste
[06:46] <bob2> Peps: what do you think gnome should be setting up?
[06:46] <bob2> WalrusU: in that case, assume it won't work
[06:46] <Enlite> with tar, how do i add files to an existing tarball?
[06:46] <Gigglesworth> Iceman: I've had a similar problem in the past. I got X working by going back to an old version of the X Configuration file. Rename the bad version of the C Config file to move it out of the way, and then copy an older version in its place.
[06:46] <Peps> I want the laptop to sleep when I close the lid ...
[06:46] <Whistler> !realplayer
[06:46] <ubotu> I heard realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:46] <bob2> Peps: you need to set that up manually
[06:46] <Oferon> oh, and for some reason network tools and modem applet moved from left side of the clock to the right side. and X-chat had no userlist on channels.
[06:46] <Peps> And menu entries for sleep/hibernate??
[06:46] <iceman> Gigglesworth got a url or how to on that
[06:46] <Chizn> when i try to run crossover office in a shell, it says "$HOME must exist or be mine for install to continue" anyone ever seen this problem? it also says i should try 'su' instead of 'sudo'?
[06:47] <Peps> bob2, how???
[06:47] <bob2> Peps: they're there if they're supported
[06:47] <bob2> Chizn: why would you run crossover office as root?
[06:47] <Chizn> im trying to run the install
[06:47] <Peps> bob2. they are supported since /etc/acpi/sleep.sh works ...
[06:47] <Gigglesworth> Iceman: Sorry no... and I don't know Ubuntu's file layout well enough (This box isn't running Ubuntu yet).
[06:47] <bob2> Peps: you need to change /etc/acpi/events/lid-btn or so to call sleep.sh
[06:47] <bob2> Peps: it's not trivial
[06:47] <Chizn> the script needs a working $HOME path to continue though but cant find one
[06:47] <absent> VLC Is the BEST thing EVER!
[06:48] <Chizn> i tried typing "set HOME = /home" but that didnt work
[06:48] <absent> i thought it was only for windows
[06:48] <Peps> bob2, looking ....
[06:48] <Oferon> bob2 ? no, I don't think so. It said 1day 15h left to download when I went to sleep. now it says 1day 17h and the downloadspeed is the same. And it was 56/116 files downloaded, now it's 19/116.
[06:48] <bob2> Chizn: no, that's not what you need to do
[06:48] <Peps> bob2, I only have a lid.sh there??
[06:49] <intelikey> nice bob2, good call on the stat question.  :)     stat --format="%U %a %F" <file>   just what i wanted in my script.
[06:49] <Gigglesworth> Iceman: but it should be something basic like 'cd /etc/X11' 'mv xfree86.config xfree86.config.bad' 'mv xfree86.config.old xfree86.config' and then restart X.
[06:49] <bob2> Oferon: it absolutley continues from where it left off, look in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:49] <bob2> Chizn: "sudo whateverthesetupscriptis"
[06:50] <Chizn> it says command not found
[06:50] <iceman> keyboard shortut in failsafe to reopen a window
[06:50] <bob2> oh man
[06:50] <Gigglesworth> Iceman: Hey, you may be able to get a better X config using the 'xorgconfig' command.
[06:50] <Peps> bob2, if understand correctly, right now it blanks the screen (. /usr/share/acpi-support/screenblank)
[06:50] <bob2> Chizn: please tell me you didn't actually type that in
[06:50] <Chizn> when i try "sudo su script.sh" then it runs to the point that it brings up the gui of the install but says it needs $HOME to continue
[06:50] <bob2> Peps: yes
[06:50] <jorloff> does anyone know of any mp3 decoders that rythembox or totem can use?
[06:50] <Chizn> not the script.sh bit
[06:51] <Chizn> but the path?
[06:51] <Peps> bob2, but if I call sleep there, would I have a problem with wakup???
[06:51] <iceman> clapased a window in failsafe, now how to reopen
[06:51] <bob2> jorloff: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:51] <bob2> iceman: do you mean "minimised"?
[06:51] <Chizn> i meant "sudo sh .."
[06:51] <iceman> yea
[06:51] <bob2> iceman: if so, you lose until you run a window manager
[06:51] <intelikey> you know the more i write in bash and use the cli util-apps the more i like it, and i already liked it. :)                Chizn "sudo ./file.sh "
[06:52] <iceman> xtem shows it still running
[06:52] <bob2> Chizn: um
[06:52] <bob2> Chizn: what do you think sh should do to a directory?
[06:52] <Gigglesworth> Iceman: When you try to run 'Metacity &' do you get any errors?
[06:52] <Chizn> its not, its a .sh file
[06:52] <iceman> got to close chat again
[06:53] <Chizn> when i try ./script.sh it just says command not found?
[06:53] <bob2> Chizn: so show us what you really ran
[06:53] <bob2> oh god
[06:53] <bob2> please
[06:53] <Gigglesworth> You need to close chat to run 'metacity &' ?
[06:53] <bob2> just show us the actual command you ran
[06:53] <Chizn> ok "sudo sh ./crossover-4.1-install.sh"
[06:53] <jumping_cows> hi all, i have a question, how do i quicky change all the files in a folder from permission 644 to 755? does natilious have a quick way of doing it?
[06:53] <Peps> is there a place where I can find more  apci scripts examples??
[06:54] <robotgeek> ubotu download_manager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DownloadManager
[06:54] <ubotu> okay, robotgeek
[06:54] <Chizn> then it says uncompressing e.t.c. then when the gui pops up it says it needs a HOME variable to continue
[06:54] <jumping_cows> it's a pain right clicking each file and going to permission.
[06:54] <bob2> Chizn: what does "whoami" print out?
[06:54] <Peps> bob2, and is there a "lid open" event??
[06:54] <jumping_cows> then clicking those extra boxes to make it permission 755.
[06:54] <bob2> jumping_cows: you use the shell
[06:54] <Chizn> "don"
[06:54] <bob2> Peps: doubt it, but you don't need that to wakeup
[06:54] <Gigglesworth> jumping_cows: You should be able to highlight multiple icons and change permissions all at the same time.
[06:55] <Gigglesworth> Just like Windows, MacOSX, etc.
[06:55] <Peps> bob2, would be nice, just like a mac ...
[06:55] <durt> should he do?: export $HOME=/home/`whoami`
[06:55] <jumping_cows> oh my, you are right gigglesworth, thanks!
[06:55] <bob2> Peps: ? it doesn't matter
[06:55] <jumping_cows> best support irc channel ever!
[06:55] <intelikey> it would be a suid $HOME   he will need to open a root shell and then export and run.....
[06:55] <spackest> well, couldn't get it to skip, but I did write down some of the errors, like . . .
[06:55] <bob2> intelikey: no
[06:55] <bob2> spackest: #flood, not here
[06:56] <spackest> k
[06:56] <root_> i know im in root .. help
[06:56] <bob2> Chizn: what does "echo $HOME" print?
[06:56] <root_> iceman .. anyone shoot
[06:56] <bob2> root_: holy god
[06:56] <Chizn> /home/don
[06:56] <Peps> bob2, anyway, anywhere I can download more acpi scripts examples. KDE has support for that in the control center, BTW ...
[06:56] <intelikey> bob2 it won't change the $HOME when you open sudo sh ?
[06:56] <bob2> Peps: to do what?
[06:57] <bob2> intelikey: it shouldn't
[06:57] <root_> Limited space, windows over lap and what a 3rd dam reinstall because i told you the dang nvidia drive how to page has cost me 2 installs already
[06:57] <Peps> bob2, lid, suspend when battary gets low, that sort of stuff. I wonder why GNOME does not.
[06:57] <bob2> Peps: oh lordy
[06:57] <bob2> root_: stop it
[06:57] <bob2> root_: put up your bloody X log and X config file
[06:57] <Gigglesworth> hey root_ are you iceman?
[06:57] <bob2> root_: last time we did this, we found you hadn't actually followed the guide at all
[06:57] <Peps> bob2, I would stay with KDE but the volume keys work only on GNOME :((((
[06:58] <bob2> so my tolerance for your complaining is very low
[06:58] <root_> yea "iceman herer
[06:58] <root_> bob2 can not get to the xlog files
[06:58] <bob2> root_: yes, you can
[06:58] <Chizn> "/home/don" ?
[06:58] <bob2> Chizn: you've done something odd
[06:58] <root_> bob2 chat is in the way of the secong xterm
[06:58] <Chizn> hum..
[06:58] <bob2> Chizn: what does "sudo sh -c 'echo $HOME'" print out?
[06:59] <spackest> http://pastebin.com/410682
[06:59] <bob2> root_: so start a window manager
[06:59] <root_> chat in the way
[06:59] <WebLOCH> hrrm
[06:59] <bob2> root_: then fix it
[06:59] <root_> metacity ... correct
[06:59] <WebLOCH> Does anyone know how i can execute java apps without having to specify " -cp . "
[06:59] <Chizn> "/home/don"
[06:59] <Gigglesworth> Root_: so you can't drag windows around at all?
[07:00] <root_> bob2 can not move the window
[07:00] <bob2> root_: run. a. window. manager.
[07:00] <root_> not in failsafe
[07:00] <Trashcan> lol bob
[07:00] <robotgeek> root_: try metacity --replace
[07:00] <root_> command to start windows manager
[07:00] <root_> brb
[07:00] <bob2> root_: #@$@$#%@#$^%@#$%
[07:00] <bob2> root_: metacity&
[07:01] <Gigglesworth> X without a window manager is like a car without tires.
[07:01] <intelikey> patients,,,,,     ;/
[07:01] <Chizn> "/home/don" bob2
[07:01] <robotgeek> Gigglesworth: atleast u have a car. it's better than no car at all!
[07:01] <WebLOCH> patience you eman
[07:01] <WebLOCH> mean*
[07:01] <robotgeek> Gigglesworth: most of the time :)
[07:01] <bob2> iceman: you are sucking the life out of me
[07:02] <bob2> iceman: run metacity
[07:02] <iceman> this sucks metacity will not start
[07:02] <bob2> iceman: put your X log up
[07:02] <intelikey> (: WebLOCH
[07:02] <bob2> iceman: you're still being useless
[07:02] <bob2> iceman: you need to actually tell us what happens when you try to start metacity
[07:02] <iceman> i typed metacity, it starts, automaticly minimzes and cant get to it
[07:02] <bob2> what. the. fuck.
[07:02] <bob2> "automatically minimizes"?
[07:03] <Chizn> not going to work then..
[07:03] <robotgeek> iceman: while you are at it, post the ~/xession-errors file too
[07:03] <iceman> had to get to the xterm window to start chat again
[07:03] <bob2> iceman: it's a window manager
[07:03] <Gigglesworth> What? Metacity doesn't minimize. Metacity is the program hat minimizes the other programs.
[07:03] <bob2> iceman: it draws window borders
[07:03] <bob2> iceman: that is all
[07:03] <intelikey> WebLOCH i love it when people correct me with stuff like that.  makes me feel like i belong     lol
[07:03] <bob2> iceman: now show us your bloody X log
[07:03] <robotgeek> iceman: open up a terminal, and do sudo apt-get install fluxbox.
[07:03] <iceman> ok metacity runninr
[07:04] <iceman> running
[07:04] <robotgeek> iceman: then, post both your /var/log/xorg.log and .xsession-errors
[07:04] <caonex> what is the difference between a .deb for ubuntu and .deb for debian?
[07:04] <bob2> caonex: one works on debian, one works on ubunt
[07:04] <robotgeek> bob2: :)
[07:04] <iceman> now how to open a 3rd xtem one is running chat .. 2nd running metacity
[07:04] <bob2> caonex: that's not a useful distinction, tho; you need to specify which version of ubuntu or debian it is for
[07:04] <Chizn> bob2 does ownership of home change when you do a sudo to perhaps don and not root?
[07:04] <bob2> iceman: goddamn, dude
[07:04] <bob2> Chizn: no
[07:05] <Gigglesworth> Iceman: So now you have a window manager, and you can drag windows around and the GUI is actually useful.
[07:05] <caonex> bob2, the ati binary installer does not even install the libmesa nor the libgl
[07:05] <bob2> iceman: metacity&
[07:05] <bigfoot1> why does removing firefox remove gnome-app-install? and why can't i have gnome-app-install without firefox?
[07:05] <iceman> yes
[07:05] <bob2> iceman: then you can run other things in the terminal
[07:05] <caonex> bob2, that is why i used the alien and rpm to install it
[07:05] <Chizn> so it would be owned by me when it tries to use it
[07:05] <bob2> Chizn: yes
[07:05] <bob2> Chizn: you don't need to install it as root, tho
[07:05] <Chizn> odd
[07:05] <caonex> bob2, however, i was thinking of generating it for debian, since the one for ubuntu does not work
[07:05] <iceman> terminals show the 2 processes running .. there busy running metacity and chat
[07:05] <Chizn> ah!
[07:05] <caonex> bob2, in your opinion it is not recommended?
[07:05] <bob2> iceman: dude
[07:05] <Chizn> i didnt use sudo and it worked, lol
[07:05] <bob2> iceman: stop talking
[07:06] <bob2> iceman: and actually do what I said
[07:06] <iceman> can type in them but the command do nothing
[07:06] <bob2> iceman: metacity&
[07:06] <bob2> iceman: then you can run oter commands in that terminal
[07:06] <Chizn> thanks bob2, lol
[07:06] <bob2> iceman: it is impossible for anyone to help you if you don't actually do what people suggest
[07:06] <intelikey> bigfoot1 welcome to my line of questioning.....    why does every thing have to be interdependant.... nothing stands alone anymore.....
[07:06] <iceman> bob2 how to close the current metacity
[07:06] <bob2> iceman: nevermind
[07:06] <bob2> iceman: ctrl-z, %1&
[07:07] <bigfoot1> intelikey: i don't see the connection between the 2 programs
[07:07] <intelikey> bigfoot1 you'll find tons of stuff like that.
[07:08] <bigfoot1> intelikey: is that so?
[07:08] <Coweater> like rox-filer depending on two editors
[07:08] <bigfoot1> intelikey: but why? is there a good reason why gnome-app-install depends on firefox?
[07:08] <Coweater> well one of the two
[07:08] <bigfoot1> Coweater: sounds like ubuntu needs to fix this dependency problem
[07:08] <Gigglesworth> No... sounds like the developer was sleepy when he linked the two.
[07:09] <morgs^^> does this server have a dedicated dvd-divx channel ??
[07:09] <bigfoot1> Gigglesworth: are you serious?
[07:09] <bob2> morgs^^: unlikely
[07:09] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: maybe it needs a browser? it shows firefox | mozilla-firefox as a dependency
[07:09] <bigfoot1> Gigglesworth: is there a way to install gnome-app-install without frefox?
[07:09] <Coweater> bigfoot1: can always submit a bug, that's the only thing i know to do
[07:09] <morgs^^> ta bob2
[07:09] <bigfoot1> robotgeek: that's what I doubt
[07:09] <Gigglesworth> Bigfoot1: Stuff like that happens. gnome-app-install should NOT depend on firefox.
[07:09] <intelikey> bigfoot1 i'm sure the writer thought there was, but you'll never find the answer to that......   or at least i never have, and i have (whined) about things like that plenty.
[07:10] <bigfoot1> Coweater, intelikey: okay, i suppose i should submit a bug to the developer of gnome-app-install. how do i do so?
[07:10] <morgs^^> anyone use PearPC in here ?
[07:11] <bigfoot1> robotgeek: well if it needs a browser, it should look at the browser selected in "Preferred applications"
[07:11] <intelikey> bugzilla.ubuntu.org i think
[07:11] <bob2> morgs^^: best to just ask your actual question
[07:11] <intelikey> !bug
[07:11] <ubotu> To file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ for packages in main or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages
[07:11] <morgs^^> again, ta bob2
[07:11] <intelikey> .com
[07:11] <canindya> due to some misconfiguration in my x-setup (I have nvidia card) my screen freezes after showing the logo and I cant go any v terminal to fix that! any help?
[07:11] <bob2> morgs^^: lots of people have used it...
[07:12] <Gigglesworth> bigfoot1: There's a link on this page  http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/gnome/gnome-app-install , and there's a list of dependancies-- gnome-app-install really does depend on Firefox. Wierd.
[07:12] <morgs^^> can the tigerx86.img from the torrent sites work with pearpc emulator for mac ?
[07:12] <bigfoot1> is gnome-app-install in main or in universe.
[07:12] <DShepherd> what does the command modprode do?
[07:12] <bigfoot1> Gigglesworth: what do you mean by "really does" depend on firefox?
[07:12] <Coweater> morgs^^: no one's going to help you with piracy
[07:12] <robotgeek> morgs^^: please refrain from discussing anything illegal here. thank you
[07:12] <morgs^^> sorry guys
[07:13] <bob2> DShepherd: load a module
[07:13] <morgs^^> i cannot seem to umount a cdrom i have in the tray ... is there a way to get it out without rebooting ?
[07:13] <DShepherd> bob2: there's no man or info entry on the command. Thanks
[07:13] <iceman> ok, i got 2 xterms running, and metacity& command entered
[07:14] <DShepherd> bob2 that's not true
[07:14] <robotgeek> morgs^^: you can force an unmount 'sudo umount -f /dev/cdrom', i guess
[07:14] <Gigglesworth> 'really does'-- This dependancy sounds like a bug to me, but it's written down and documented in http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/gnome/gnome-app-install . Check out the changelog for that file.
[07:14] <robotgeek> DShepherd: it has a man page.
[07:14] <DShepherd> bob2 I was spelliing it incorrectly :D
[07:14] <DShepherd> robotgeek: ok
[07:15] <morgs^^> robotgeek, ::   umount2: Invalid argument
[07:15] <morgs^^> umount: /dev/cdrom: not mounted
[07:15] <intelikey> robotgeek not if a file browser is looking at files on the cd or reading them i should say.
[07:15] <iceman> where is xorg.log located ?
[07:15] <robotgeek> morgs^^: then try 'eject'
[07:15] <Gigglesworth> And it sounds like I'm wrong. Someone intentionally made gnome-app-install dependant on Firefox, probably because they wanted some waky GUI functionality.
[07:15] <Oferon> morgs^^ : write "/eject" in terminal.
[07:16] <robotgeek> Gigglesworth: good job there :)
[07:16] <morgs^^> eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[07:16] <iceman> where do i find the x log file ?
[07:16] <Gigglesworth> iceman: it should be in /var/log/ somewhere.
[07:16] <robotgeek> iceman: /var/log/Xorg.log
[07:16] <^thehatsrule^> eject <device> ?
[07:16] <morgs^^> thanks anyway ;]          it seems to dissapear when using vid players or dvd::rip
[07:16] <WebLOCH> it would seem i have really really done it
[07:17] <WebLOCH> how monstrously annoying
[07:17] <iceman> ok... #flood
[07:17] <robotgeek> morgs^^: try lsof <path> to find out if it is busy.
[07:17] <robotgeek> Gigglesworth: gtk-mozembed is also a dependency for liferea, a feed reader i use
[07:18] <intelikey> WebLOCH ?
[07:18] <crimsun> iceman: please wait next time. Two people flooding /etc/X11/{XF86Config*,xorg.conf} != fun
[07:18] <WebLOCH> intelikey, ive had so mnay problems with java
[07:18] <morgs^^> lsof /cdrom ?
[07:18] <WebLOCH> i think I probably killed some other stuff
[07:18] <iceman> huge post in flood
[07:18] <iceman> posted Xorg.0.log in flood
[07:18] <Gigglesworth> iceman: Ironically you and someone else are both posting your xorg log files...
[07:18] <WebLOCH> intelikey, I think i may have altered things i shouldnt have and overall ruined the os install
[07:19] <WebLOCH> intelikey, im beginning to think it would be a good idea to reinstall
[07:19] <iceman> What to look for in this file .. then how the heck to fix it
[07:19] <WebLOCH> intelikey, have anything to do with java haha ?
[07:19] <Sodge> oh god help
[07:19] <iceman> this is already my 3rd install because of the stupid nvidia howto
[07:19] <morgs^^> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev
[07:19] <morgs^^>       Output information may be incomplete.
[07:19] <manuel__> alguien que me indique un servidor en espaol
[07:19] <bigfoot1> Bug 18651 submitted: gnome-app-install shouldn't need firefox
[07:20] <bob2> iceman: and you didn't need to reinstall once
[07:20] <dadehoog> greetings all
[07:20] <manuel__> server en espaol
[07:20] <Sodge> what's the deal with <s>airline peanuts?</s> my installation? it works up until i am required to reboot, then it hangs at 0% at the "preparing for installation..." dialog
[07:20] <intelikey> WebLOCH no.  i usually don't mess with java.   but i have a long list of "never do this to a linux box" thing i've tried.
[07:20] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: oO, http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/gnome/gnome-app-install take a look at changelog
[07:20] <iceman> bob2 when i cant fix, and there was no way to even get in a chat then yea i had to reinstall
[07:20] <manuel__> ubuntu.es?????
[07:20] <Stricklin> How do I change the permissions (make it writable) on an entire directory?
[07:20] <morgs^^> thanks 4 the help ;] 
[07:20] <dadehoog> I have a problem ... specifically, if I try and add any files to a vfat partition from Linux ... I end up with fsck####.rec files ...
[07:20] <manuel__> irc en espaol
[07:21] <robotgeek> !es
[07:21] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:21] <Gigglesworth> Manuel: #ubuntu-es
[07:21] <iceman> this time i a least had a sessions screen, and could get a failsafe term open
[07:21] <manuel__> okas
[07:21] <bigfoot1> robotgeek: "debian/control:     - depend on firefox|mozilla-firefox". what does this mean?
[07:21] <bob2> iceman: no
[07:21] <manuel__> ubuntu-es
[07:21] <bob2> iceman: you can always get on irc, even if X is broken
[07:21] <dadehoog> how do I recover these files ? and how do I stop them from ocurring (evidently something is not happy in the mount/umount process)
[07:21] <robotgeek> bigfoot1:   * added firefox|mozilla-browser to dependencies (for gtkmozembed)
[07:21] <iceman> Dont know how from a text screen
[07:22] <WebLOCH> intelikey, sounds like you should publish it
[07:22] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: (ubuntu #16306)
[07:22] <bigfoot1> robotgeek: what does that mean?
[07:22] <Sodge> what's the deal with <s>airline peanuts?</s> my installation? it works up until i am required to reboot, then it hangs at 0% at the "preparing for installation..." dialog <- anyone? :[
[07:22] <DShepherd> can you close the cd/dvd drive from the CLI?
[07:22] <bob2> iceman: install irssi-text
[07:22] <bigfoot1> robotgeek: doesn't that mean the reverse of what you and i seek?
[07:22] <bob2> DShepherd: "eject", yes
[07:22] <WebLOCH> intelikey, i just realised i cant even re-install I let someone borrow the disc :(
[07:22] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: first rule bofore filing a bug. check if bugs have been filed before!
[07:22] <DShepherd> bob2 thanks
[07:22] <iceman> let me get this fixed ... and i will get that ...
[07:22] <intelikey> like you've no idea what will happen if you "adduser root -u 0 "    it makes the real root totaly unreachable without booting single....
[07:23] <WebLOCH> haha
[07:23] <WebLOCH> fun fun fun
[07:23] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: it means that the dependency to firefox was added intentionally.
[07:23] <iceman> ok ... how to fix ?
[07:23] <bigfoot1> robotgeek: ok.
[07:23] <WebLOCH> hmm anyone here running the 64bit version of ubuntu ?
[07:23] <bob2> WebLOCH: do you mean the "amd64 port"?
[07:24] <WebLOCH> well amd64 emt64
[07:24] <WebLOCH> either way
[07:24] <intelikey> easy enough to fix. but for a noobish kinda guy, it was reload time for me.
[07:24] <Gigglesworth> iceman: If I were you, I'd stop trying to use the Nvidia drivers, and try again later. Type 'xorgconfig' from a terminal window to create a new X configuration file.
[07:24] <bigfoot1> robotgeek: can i delete my bug-submission then? or can i modify my bug to say that gnome-app-install should seek any browser that can do what gnome-app-install seeks in firefox?
[07:24] <WebLOCH> bob2, yes amd/emt
[07:24] <Sodge> or you can not help me i guess whatever works guys!!!
[07:24] <bigfoot1> robotgeek: as in any mozilla browser?
[07:24] <WebLOCH> Anyone else, anyone at all, running amd/emt64 ubuntu ?
[07:25] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: hmm, just go any say it shud use any mozilla variant, not just firefox.
[07:25] <iceman> where would my old xconfig file be
[07:25] <bigfoot1> robotgeek: gotcha. i'll modify my bug submission. is this possible?
[07:26] <Gigglesworth> xorgconfig will handle that automatically. However, I think the files are in /etc/X11/
[07:26] <iceman> can i just reinstall the old file
[07:26] <Gigglesworth> Yes, you could also try reinstalling the old file, if you have one.
[07:26] <nuck> hi how do i fix the following error? thanks .  perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:  LANGUAGE = "en_AU:en",  LC_ALL = (unset),  LANG = "en_AU.UTF-8"  are supported and installed on your system.  perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (&quot
[07:26] <robotgeek> bigfoot1: yeah, you can add additional info. also mention bug  #16306
[07:26] <WebLOCH> intelikey, i think i have to reinstall now anyway, just to rehearse everything ive learned over the last fe wweeks
[07:26] <chloubs> iceman, juste change nvidia to nv driver
[07:26] <WebLOCH> intelikey, try and get it ingrained
[07:26] <bob2> WebLOCH: lots of people use it
[07:26] <bob2> WebLOCH: if you have a question, just ask it
[07:26] <Gigglesworth> I'd make sure the old file didn't have any Nvidia refrences in it: 'grep -i nvidia xorg.config'
[07:27] <iceman> chlouds in what
[07:27] <WebLOCH> bob2, I was hoping to ask if anyone thought it was worth running, if it makes *that* much of a difference, if there is enough support for it
[07:27] <dadehoog> any suggestions as to how to restore .rec files from a vfat partition ?
[07:27] <chloubs> vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:27] <HappyFool> nuck: i think 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' might help you
[07:27] <bob2> WebLOCH: it's "faster" and you can use more ram
[07:27] <WebLOCH> bob2, i know its "faster" in theory, i wanted to know if it genuinely was faster tho
[07:27] <bob2> WebLOCH: the only reason not to use it is if you care about binary-only stuff, e.g. proprietary software, windows programs, ndiswrapper...
[07:28] <bob2> WebLOCH: people claim 20% faster for things like gcc compilation
[07:28] <WebLOCH> bob2, so under linux it is actually worth testing
[07:28] <WebLOCH> bob2, because at the moment i have it running as 686smp
[07:29] <intelikey> yeah.  most people don't stay with one system long enough to learn a fraction of it's capablities and quarks....    WebLOCH
[07:29] <Gigglesworth> iceman: and don't feel too frustrated about this. Configuring X has been a major problem for YEARS. And companies like Nvidia don't supply open-source drivers or APIs for their video cards, which means that developers need to make their own OSS drivers using alot of guesswork, and the drivers are buggy.
[07:29] <WebLOCH> intelikey, well every time i kill it, i get to start again, the thing im most disappointed about is that you cant start with nothing and just get the blocks you want, its a shame really
[07:29] <zblach> hi, i've borked my sources.list. can someone post theres on pastebin?
[07:29] <zblach> **theirs
[07:30] <HappyFool> !tell zblach about repos
[07:30] <geneo93> nvidia does good drivers for linux
[07:30] <HappyFool> zblach: take a look at the samples there
[07:30] <nuck> HappFool i got the ff when i typed your suggestion
[07:30] <nuck> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[07:30] <nuck> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[07:30] <nuck>         LANGUAGE = "en_AU:en",
[07:30] <nuck>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[07:30] <nuck>         LANG = "en_AU.UTF-8"
[07:30] <nuck>     are supported and installed on your system.
[07:30] <nuck> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[07:30] <nuck> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[07:30] <nuck> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[07:30] <nuck> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[07:30] <nuck> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed
[07:30] <nuck> sorry bout that guys
[07:30] <Gigglesworth> nuck: No pasting in this channel.
[07:30] <intelikey> WebLOCH server-expert install   is as close as you'll get with ub   and that is still bloat.
[07:30] <HappyFool> nuck: please don't paste here
[07:30] <Sodge> so guys, why does my install not go past the installing packages ubuntu config screen? it hangs at 0%.
[07:30] <Oferon> bob2: I'm still pretty sure the updates I downloaded before the boot are wasted now. It's downloading the same things again. :(
[07:31] <WebLOCH> intelikey,  yeah i tried it but as soon as i install ubuntu-desktop i get all the bloat in one go, which i wanted to cut out
[07:31] <bob2> Sodge: checked your CD?
[07:31] <Gigglesworth> geneo93: I had luck with Nvidia's drivers, but the trick is installing them using a familiar install tool like 'apt-get' or 'synaptic'.
[07:31] <WebLOCH> intelikey, can we move this to offtopic?
[07:31] <iceman> ok what line in the config file do i want to replace ...  or place nv driver  in ..
[07:31] <bob2> Oferon: that's not the case
[07:31] <bob2> Oferon: unless they were corrupt
[07:31] <Sodge> considering it said to remove the cd and let it boot from the hdd i don't think it's the cd!
[07:31] <intelikey> WebLOCH don't install ub-desktop  that is the bloat package.
[07:31] <Sodge> of course, i am pretty dumb so i very well could need that cd in the drive!
[07:32] <WebLOCH> intelikey, how do i install everything then >?
[07:32] <bob2> Sodge: oh
[07:32] <bob2> Sodge: it's trying to download things fro mthe network?
[07:32] <WebLOCH> intelikey, i assumed it was the only way to get gnome etc
[07:32] <iceman> think i found it ...
[07:32] <iceman> brb
[07:32] <Sodge> nope, it says it's installing them... except it isn't
[07:32] <bob2> ...
[07:32] <bob2> the exact text on the screen is?
[07:32] <HappyFool> nuck: is 'language-pack-en' supported?
[07:32] <Oferon> bob2 : I think it was a hardware malfunction. any changes then that the data was lost?
[07:32] <intelikey> no WebLOCH apt-get install gnome is half the size of ubloat-desktop
[07:32] <Sodge> [installing packages]       preparing for installation...
[07:32] <WebLOCH> oooh
[07:32] <HappyFool> nuck: installed, i meant
[07:33] <Sodge> and the big ol' status bar stuck at 0
[07:33] <WebLOCH> intelikey, sounds handy
[07:33] <WebLOCH> intelikey, i might try it w
[07:33] <chloubs> Sodge, try alt-f2 && ps waux  ... or something
[07:33] <nuck> HappyFool how do i check that?
[07:33] <zblach> thanks
[07:33] <chloubs> Sodge, vi /var/log..... dmesg
[07:33] <WebLOCH> intelikey, what else do you recommend i grab to start with ?
[07:33] <HappyFool> nuck: dpkg -l language-pack-en
[07:33] <bob2> Oferon: no
[07:33] <Oferon> bob2 : sorry, just came to think that this computer was assembled in 1999. :)
[07:34] <nuck> here's what i got from running that command... it's just 1 liner so please bear with me pn  language-pack- <none>         (no description available)
[07:35] <intelikey> yeah if you are going to reload anyway start off with "apt-cache search <blah> " and pick things that you think you need then apt-get install <blah>  and if it says it is going to install tons of stuff say NO and try a different package....   :)
[07:35] <HappyFool> nuck: try 'COLUMNS=100 dpkg -l language\*' -- put the output in #flood
[07:35] <WebLOCH> intelikey, cheers
[07:35] <intelikey> cheers
[07:35] <WebLOCH> I might have to write my own guide on installing java if I ever succeed
[07:36] <HappyFool> nuck: you said the first letters were 'pn' ?
[07:36] <nuck> guys how do you know all this? i been reading on stuff and there's no way i think you could memorize all these commands just by reading
[07:36] <WebLOCH> nuck, through constant repetition
[07:36] <nuck> HappyFool yes pn
[07:36] <HappyFool> nuck: just takes time
[07:37] <HappyFool> nuck: ok, can you paste the output i requested in #flood ?
[07:37] <geneo93> after 5-6 yrs you'll have it all down
[07:37] <intelikey> nuck it is not by reading, for me anyway, it is by use, and reuse, and reuse.....
[07:37] <nuck> ok
[07:37] <bob2> nuck: use them
[07:38] <nuck> HappyFool i just pasted it in #flood
[07:38] <intelikey> i need to go.   fifth sunday meeting tomarrow.   peace to all,
[07:38] <HappyFool> nuck: this is the command i want you to run: 'COLUMNS=100 dpkg -l language\*'
[07:38] <nuck> im so tired been coding since 1am its now 6pm
[07:39] <WebLOCH> haha nuck its 6.30 here
[07:39] <WebLOCH> possibly 5.30
[07:39] <WebLOCH> not sure when our clocks went back
[07:39] <iceman> ok, that toasted the xorg.config file
[07:39] <Ofe> It's 8:40 here. :)
[07:39] <iceman> no no x session at all, im on a live cd now
[07:40] <chloubs> it's .conf not .config
[07:40] <HappyFool> nuck: hmm
[07:40] <nuck> HappyFool its now in #flood its quite a handful
[07:40] <HappyFool> nuck: wonder why your list is so long; mine only has en
[07:40] <nuck> hmm? real bad?
[07:40] <HappyFool> nuck: no, nothing serious
[07:40] <HappyFool> it is a bit long though ;)
[07:41] <nuck> i wish i started with unix rather than windows
[07:41] <iceman> ok, how to get root access to the harddrive from a live cd ?
[07:41] <HappyFool> nuck: output seems to have halted
[07:41] <WebLOCH> haha nuck same here
[07:42] <HappyFool> nuck: anyway, try 'sudo aptitude install language-support-en'
[07:42] <Jimbob> iceman: "sudo mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /mnt"
[07:42] <chloubs> iceman, use mount :)
[07:42] <Jimbob> iceman: Assuming you want the first partition on the drive.
[07:42] <nuck> HappyFool that command would download off the internet right?
[07:42] <HappyFool> nuck: um, i think en language stuff is on the cd
[07:43] <HappyFool> actually, i think a lot of languages are on the cd
[07:43] <nuck> maybe i would have to postpone that if so i have 4MB quota left and its sunday
[07:43] <iceman> second harddrive ...
[07:43] <HappyFool> nuck: ouch
[07:43] <HappyFool> nuck: you're using breezy? do you have the CD?
[07:43] <chloubs> second hd is hdb
[07:43] <nuck> yes i do
[07:43] <HappyFool> nuck: try the command -- aptitude will ask if it needs to download stuff
[07:44] <nuck> i think if i cp the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/ it wouldnt download right?
[07:44] <paulproteus|lapt> nuck: That's right.
[07:44] <HappyFool> nuck: if they are in that directory, it won't need to download them
[07:44] <paulproteus|lapt> nuck: If apt finds the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/ to be correct, it won't download them.
[07:44] <HappyFool> nuck: but aptitude is smart enough to know what is on the cd anyway
[07:44] <nuck> so the package is called language-support-en right
[07:44] <canindya> intel/quit
[07:45] <canindya> opps sorry guys
[07:45] <HappyFool> nuck: yip. and it is definitely on the cd
[07:45] <HappyFool> nuck: and it is usually installed ;) so something weird happened for it to get uninstalled
[07:45] <nuck> ok im trying it out now
[07:46] <iceman> ok, now how the heck to fix the xorg.conf file
[07:46] <HappyFool> iceman: one way is to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' -- make sure you backup your old file first
[07:46] <HappyFool> nuck: if you're really paranoid disconnect from the net first
[07:47] <nuck> its ok it didnt download
[07:47] <nuck> i pasted in flood the last bit of the output
[07:47] <HappyFool> ok, and your perl test?
[07:47] <HappyFool> hrm
[07:47] <nuck> it seems that there is still a problem with au language
[07:47] <HappyFool> just a second...
[07:48] <nuck> man my eyes are soo red already
[07:48] <HappyFool> nuck: ok, another dpkg command: (with less output): COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l language\*en
[07:48] <HappyFool> nuck: maybe we should leave this for tomorrow?
[07:49] <nuck> no way! :-)
[07:49] <HappyFool> *shrug* i just woke up, i don't mind ;)
[07:49] <nuck> HappyFool it is in #flood and ye sits shorter
[07:49] <canindya> atlast  I am able to get in X in breezy after updating from hoary :)
[07:50] <HappyFool> nuck: hmm
[07:50] <HappyFool> nuck: standby
[07:50] <HappyFool> nuck: ok, 'sudo aptitude install language-pack-en' too
[07:51] <Cryptid> i just finished downloaded Ubuntu 5.10 Install cd iso i dont have a empty cd at present so is there a way i can mount the iso image as a cd drive and then update from it???????
[07:52] <HappyFool> Cryptid: you mean upgrade a hoary to breezy?
[07:52] <WalrusU> is the breezy-extras repository up yet?
[07:52] <HappyFool> nuck: sub-optimal
[07:52] <nuck> HappyFool i pasted the output in #flood
[07:52] <nuck> its complaining about some broken package
[07:52] <Cryptid> HappyFool, yes
[07:52] <HappyFool> nuck: i see. that looks not-so-good
[07:52] <nuck> what is sub-optimal
[07:53] <HappyFool> nuck: a silly joke; nm
[07:54] <nuck> oh ok... i think my sense of humor is already asleep so i miss the jokes
[07:55] <Cryptid> HappyFool, do have an idea on how i can mount and .iso file as a cd-rom drive and use that drive to update hoary to breezy
[07:55] <caonex> i cant seem to find the mesa libraries for open gl , where are they located and what is the exact name?
[07:55] <HappyFool> Cryptid: oh, sorry
[07:55] <hit3k> is there a command line version of the ubuntu update system?
[07:56] <paulproteus|lapt> Cryptid: apt-cdrom
[07:56] <HappyFool> Cryptid: to mount use 'mount -o loop filename.iso /mnt/cdrom' (/mnt/cdrom can be somewhere else)
[07:56] <geneo93> apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:58] <HappyFool> i've tried apt-cdrom with a mounted iso and had little luck
[07:59] <HappyFool> it kept wanting the cd to be at /cdrom
[07:59] <HappyFool> well, apt-get wanted that
[08:00] <TaD> hi guys, been using linux for a while, new to ubuntu (or debian), so what's the procedure to get a more recent kernel, compile it and install it?
[08:00] <geneo93> temporaely edit your fstab file
[08:01] <iiiears> TaD - there are a bunch of ready to use kernels available..
[08:01] <HappyFool> how about a 'deb file:///' line in sources.list ? or is that bad for some reason? (i guess it will copy stuff to the cache... hmm)
[08:01] <iiiears> TaD - Did you really want to compile a kernel?
[08:02] <iiiears> check synaptic for "linux"
[08:02] <TaD> iiiears: not fussed, I've compiled them on other systems, just not sure of the "Ubuntu way"
[08:02] <josh43> ANyone have experience with evdev?
[08:03] <green-mouse> TaD: su; apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.11 kernel-patch-debian-2.6.11
[08:03] <TaD> iiiears: and I think a more recent kernel has support for my DVB-t card
[08:03] <geneo93> if all the debs are in pool you need then just copy them to var/cache/apt/archives
[08:03] <iiiears> Tad - it even supports my old tuner too. just about everything is in there.
[08:04] <y3dips> hi
[08:04] <green-mouse> TaD: after this unpack and compile kernel - if u know what u do...
[08:04] <y3dips> is there anyone could help me with this error " dev_fs_mkdev: could not append to parent for bluetooth/rfcomm/0 "
[08:05] <iiiears> TaD - add "build-essetial" meta package and the normal kernel stuff
[08:05] <y3dips> i found it when i upgrade to breezy then do pppd for open connection via GPRS , bluetooth n my cell phone
[08:05] <Chizn> how would i make a vfat partition read and write?
[08:06] <imterro> hey guys, does anyone know where i can get the wp_tray
[08:06] <Chizn> i have mounted it but it wont let me write to it
[08:06] <imterro> i tried planetearthworm
[08:06] <imterro> but they seem to be down
[08:06] <Chizn> i put rw,user in fstab under options
[08:06] <chloubs> how to do a suspend to ram with gnome?
[08:08] <GTroy> bout to dump my windows partition, wish me luck!
[08:08] <glyn> can files like msmbvm.dll etc work with Linux?
[08:08] <chloubs> Chizn, dont know ubuntu , but perhaps you have to set a parameter in config.gz (see dmesg)
[08:08] <raghu> Chizn: mount -r -t vfat /dev/... /target
[08:08] <chiefofthejojos> good luck!
[08:08] <glyn> do driver files work for Ubuntu? (.dll's)?
[08:09] <chiefofthejojos> yes, with wine
[08:09] <Chizn> raghu, what would i put in fstab?
[08:09] <glyn> could I PM you Jojos?
[08:09] <glyn> perhaps you could help me out
[08:09] <chiefofthejojos> sure
[08:09] <iiiears> !fstab
[08:09] <ubotu> well, fstab is /etc/fstab is a real pain for new users. The fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[08:09] <TaD> iiiears/green-mouse: thanks guys, I'll see what the installer has given me shortly and then have a play
[08:09] <kevix> glyn, only on an x86 box
[08:10] <green-mouse> TaD: no problem...
[08:10] <spackest> so I got insmod: error inserting '/lib/moduls/2.6.12-8-386/kernel/drivers/video/softcursor.ko': -1 file exists
[08:10] <spackest> and ALERT! /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!
[08:10] <imterro>  error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[08:11] <imterro> can anyone tell me what this means: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[08:11] <raghu> Chizn: /dev/hda1	/mnt/dos/c   	vfat   	defaults       	0 	0
[08:11] <spackest> imterro: I think you need to install XML::Parser
[08:11] <raghu> imterro: install perl module
[08:11] <morgs^^> is there a prog like Netlimiter for linux ??   so i can throttle my bandwidth ?
[08:11] <imterro> cool thanks
[08:11] <imterro> apt-get install perl module?
[08:12] <raghu> imterro: apt-cache search perl  XML::Parse
[08:12] <y3dips> hum, seem nobody alive :P
[08:12] <__Caleb__> apt-cache search perl
[08:12] <spackest> I think
[08:12] <spackest> apt-get install libxml-simple-perl
[08:12] <nalioth> morgs^^: trickle
[08:12] <kevix> imterro, apt-get install libxml-parser-perl
[08:13] <spackest> I bet they are deps
[08:13] <imterro> wow thanks
[08:13] <imterro> i was just about to search through a massive list :P
[08:13] <chloubs> how to do a suspend to ram with gnome? impossible?
[08:14] <HappyFool> chloubs: is suspend-to-ram different to hibernate?
[08:14] <spackest> apt-cache search xml | grep parser | grep perl
[08:14] <chloubs> i think
[08:14] <morgs^^> nalioth say i want to use 20kb max ..... is is something like  trickle -u 20 ?
[08:14] <HappyFool> chloubs: because i see 'hibernate' in system -> logout
[08:14] <nalioth> morgs^^: i'm just a traffic cop, pointing the way, lol
[08:15] <vbgunz> hello all, anyone here using Firefox and trying to use the "save password/login" feature *but* Firefox refuses to save any passwords/logins? I don't get a prompt or anything... I am coming from a Roboform background and am trying to use the "save login feature" of Firefox *but* am failing miserably... anyone have any ideas?
[08:15] <morgs^^> well its a good start ... cheers nalioth
[08:15] <chloubs> yes but it's not the same thing
[08:15] <G_Superchicken> hows everyone tonight
[08:16] <raghu> vbguns: it is its default behaviour i guess
[08:16] <HappyFool> chloubs: ah, sorry, no clue then
[08:16] <kevix> G_Superchicken, inbetween time zones.
[08:16] <G_Superchicken> how does that work?
[08:16] <Chizn> !!fstab
[08:16] <ubotu> Chizn: Syntax error in line 1
[08:16] <Chizn> !fstab
[08:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, fstab is /etc/fstab is a real pain for new users. The fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[08:16] <raghu> vbguns: or may be you have to search in its extensions
[08:16] <vbgunz> raghu: I am not sure why Firefox has a save password feature if it doesn't save any passwords... What is that feature for?
[08:17] <kisielk> hm
[08:17] <kisielk> is there a package for gallery2 ?
[08:17] <kevix> vbgunz, it saves passwords.
[08:17] <Chizn> thank you all
[08:18] <geneo93> vbgunz:  do you have accept cookies turned off
[08:18] <kevix> !gallery2
[08:18] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, kevix
[08:18] <kevix> !dpkg gallery2
[08:18] <ubotu> kevix: Are you smoking crack?
[08:19] <kevix> kisielk, 'apt-cache show gallery2'
[08:19] <vbgunz> kevix: I am trying to save a Yahoo! password/login *but* Firefox never really saves anything... I have Firefox check "Save passwords" I accept cookies and I even turned off javascript as I read somewhere that the site might be erasing it and Firefox will not save it... I tried a few things and nothing is working
[08:19] <HappyFool> !info gallery
[08:19] <ubotu> gallery: (a web-based photo album written in php), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.5-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6416 kB, Installed size: 22212 kB
[08:19] <Mr_Milenko> In other news..
[08:19] <Mr_Milenko> UN might be dragging Blair and possibly Bush through the International Criminal Court as War Criminals
[08:19] <Mr_Milenko> in a kiwi newspaper
[08:19] <G_Superchicken>   got a link?
[08:20] <Mr_Milenko> hold
[08:20] <geneo93> vbgunz:  it saves mine just fine
[08:20] <milksteak> heh
[08:20] <milksteak> another NZer eh?
[08:20] <kevix> !info gallery2
[08:20] <nalioth> Mr_Milenko: take that to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:20] <Mr_Milenko> k
[08:21] <vbgunz> geneo93: I am not sure why I cannot save my Yahoo! login... I am trying so many things and nothing is working... I don't really understand... I have cookies set to on and javascript wether on or off... well, Firefox doesn't save anything... I even attempted to view passwords *but* none are saved :(
[08:21] <vbgunz> geneo93: it doesn't save mine at all...
[08:21] <kevix> vbgunz, try it as a differnet users
[08:22] <raghu> vbgunz: reinstall and see once
[08:22] <kevix> vbgunz, sometimes your profile get coruppted. so it may need to be removed.
[08:22] <geneo93> vbgunz:  try mozilla its faster on this box
[08:22] <robotgeek> vbgunz: you mean in firefox,right?
[08:22] <vbgunz> kevix: I ran forefox -ProfileManager and created a new user... It was like this for default and still remains the same for the new user :(
[08:22] <kevix> geneo93, ok. type 'xhost +' and I will!
[08:23] <geneo93> mine works fine
[08:23] <kevix> vbgunz, have you tried removed your profile.
[08:23] <iceman> fudge ... 3 reinstall all over the nvidia driver...
[08:23] <vbgunz> robotgeek: yes, I am on Breezy, using Firefox 1.0.7... I am on Yahoo! with/without javascript enabled... I enter my credentials and hit submit... Firefox never prompts me for anything and when I check the "view passwords" under Firefox, nothing is there :(
[08:23] <cronik> im having a problem with fonts in flash
[08:24] <cronik> can any one help?
[08:24] <vbgunz> kevix, this is a brand new profile, I just created it :(
[08:24] <G_Superchicken> ya know ,  for being a first time linux/ubuntu user ,i think im doing pretty decent
[08:24] <kevix> iceman, you didnt need to reinstall over a driver. you could have just asked here first.
[08:24] <robotgeek> vbgunz: gimme a min, i need to pull up a link
[08:24] <geneo93> vbgunz:  just delete the moz-ff file in your home dir
[08:24] <vbgunz> geneo93: I will try that
[08:24] <morgs^^> re bandwidth ... wondershaper is good
[08:24] <cronik> guys
[08:25] <cronik> some help with flash
[08:25] <kevix> vbgunz, do you have another browser? konq, ephininay, galeon to try?
[08:25] <vbgunz> geneo93: I do not have that in my home /home/vbgunz/moz-ff :(
[08:25] <geneo93> it will reset to defaults
[08:25] <cronik> i can"t see nothing in a flash chat room
[08:25] <robotgeek> vbgunz: http://pchere.blogspot.com/2005/04/save-yahoo-hotmail-passwords-in.html
[08:25] <vbgunz> kevix: I believe I have the default browser but hid it away under menu options
[08:25] <vbgunz> robotgeek: Will look at that now...
[08:25] <iceman> kevix was here, and it went further downhill ... let me get the updates .. then i need a good walk through ... double checking the nvidia install ... some one walk me through it ... please ...
[08:25] <geneo93> vb its there just hidden
[08:26] <vbgunz> kevix: what would you like I do with the other browser?
[08:26] <vbgunz> geneo93: I enabled viewing of hidden files... I don't see it :(
[08:26] <kevix> vbgunz, see if you have the same trouble as with firefox
[08:26] <kevix> iceman did you try the vesa and nv drivers? did they work?
[08:27] <vbgunz> one sec fellas, robotgeek passed me a link that seems might have answer
[08:27] <vbgunz> one sec
[08:27] <glyn> is there a way to actually extract files into a folder from a zip with ubuntu?
[08:27] <glyn> it's taking forever to move them manually
[08:27] <radu> hi, does anyone know if there's any way of converting a ntfs partition to fat, from Linux ?
[08:27] <iceman> kevix i tryed changing the conf file to nv and that toasted the system where i had no x at all
[08:27] <searcher`> glyn: are you using kde or gnome?
[08:27] <kevix> glyn, do you have unzip installed?
[08:27] <Stricklin> Where do I get w32codecs for x64?
[08:28] <glyn> gnome
[08:28] <raghu> radu : do it from windows
[08:28] <radu> raghu: how ?
[08:28] <radu> raghu: I have windows 2000
[08:28] <kevix> iceman, what card to you have?
[08:28] <searcher`> then rightclick in nautilus on the zip file and select `extract here'
[08:28] <Stricklin>  ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/ only has i386
[08:28] <iceman> kevvix nvidia 5500
[08:28] <raghu> radu : if it is c: not possible
[08:28] <searcher`> that will create a folder with the contents of the zipfile in the current dir
[08:28] <iceman> it's pci .. not atx though
[08:28] <nalioth> Stricklin: w32codecs only work in a 32-bit chroot under amd64
[08:28] <radu> raghu: no, it's the other partition
[08:29] <geneo93> radu go to boot disk .com and get win98 disk
[08:29] <Stricklin> nalioth, I'm not sure I follow you
[08:29] <radu> geneo93: what then ?
[08:29] <lysdexic> Yeah, microsoft hasn't made x64 w32 codecs.
[08:29] <geneo93> do you can fdisk
[08:29] <Stricklin> nalioth, are you saying I can't install them?
[08:29] <radu> geneo93: can fdisk convert a ntfs partition to fat ?
[08:30] <nalioth> Stricklin: if you want a arch to play music, flash, movies, i'd recommand using an x85 arch. For scientific computing, server duties, etc, the amd64 works great
[08:30] <geneo93> npo but it will write fat
[08:30] <Stricklin> nalioth, now I know that :)
[08:30] <flodine> anyone use hula here
[08:30] <nalioth> radu: not without losing all your data
[08:30] <radu> well... not very helpful...
[08:30] <cronik> guys im having pro with java and flash,can any one hekp?
[08:31] <Stricklin> But I'd sure like to be able to view wmv files
[08:31] <cronik> help
[08:31] <geneo93> radu you will loose anything on the drive no matter how you do it
[08:31] <radu> how about the other way - can I write on a ntfs partition with linux ?
[08:31] <raghu> radu : u got it?
[08:31] <lysdexic> You can still get the codecs, but they won't be written fora x64 arch.
[08:31] <radu> raghu: yeah, no option sounds good :)
[08:32] <vbgunz> robotgeek: maybe I am an idiot :( I am not sure how to apply what I am reading on that site...
[08:32] <Stricklin> so... on this computer, I can't watch wmv files?
[08:32] <lysdexic> You can.
[08:32] <cronik> guys im having pro with java and flash,can any one hekp?
[08:32] <nalioth> radu: writing to ntfs from linux can destroy the ntfs partition
[08:32] <cowbux> 10 out of 3 nihilists recommend dichotomy of death metal as a way of life
[08:32] <radu> ah, even better
[08:32] <raghu> radu : sis you noticed what i put in personal chat?
[08:33] <searcher`> nalioth: writing to ntfs _will_ destroy the data :-)
[08:33] <nalioth> Stricklin: you can. you have to set up a special environment called a "chroot" environment
[08:33] <airmikey_> any1 have a problem with laptop disconnecting from the internet for reason
[08:33] <radu> nalioth: I heard there were some progresses in making writing to ntfs possible...
[08:33] <radu> raghu: nope, try again
[08:33] <airmikey_> for no reason...wirless
[08:33] <nalioth> radu: they are working every day toward that
[08:33] <lysdexic> radu: Yes, but it's still very primitive.
[08:33] <Stricklin> nalioth, OIC, know of a tutorial somewhere?
[08:33] <Phlip> Somehow I've managed to break it so that if anything uses the "Courier" font, it comes out blank. I think it broke when I copied cour*.ttf from my windows build across to get the Courier New font, before I found out about the msttcorefonts package. I've since deleted them from where I copied them to but it must have set some setting somewhere because Courier is still broken. Any ideas?
[08:33] <searcher`> radu: there's the captive driver, highly alpha, which uses the original windows ntfs driver
[08:33] <vbgunz> robotgeek: I got it, it does work!
[08:33] <radu> wow
[08:34] <robotgeek> vbgunz: )
[08:34] <radu> what's so incredibly intricate in this ntfs system anyway ?
[08:34] <searcher`> radu: but the usual warnings apply, it will eat your data and small pets without looking back
[08:34] <raghu> radu : radu r u seeing it?
[08:34] <radu> raghu: hrm... no...
[08:34] <searcher`> radu: the specifications aren't available, so it has to be reverse engineered
[08:34] <lysdexic> It's just that the details about it weren't available to developers, so the people developing the ntfs driver have to to it from scratch.
[08:34] <searcher`> it's a miracle we can read from it
[08:34] <Stricklin> Would this work? http://www.faqs.org/docs/securing/chap29sec296.html
[08:34] <raghu> radu you PM me
[08:35] <iceman> anyone got a link to the codex files for playing media files ?
[08:35] <cowbux> did you know that entering the correct password can go a long way to getting a connection to the entire net?
[08:35] <vbgunz> robotgeek: at least for Yahoo *but* after reading some of that info found on the second page my conclusion is Firefox can be tricked into not remembering logins... why some sites wish to do this is beyond me at the moment and why Firefox cannot natively handle it is a bit naive on there part... Man I wish a killer password app like Roboform debuts onto Linux soon... robotgeek, thank you, this has solved the Yahoo problem ;)
[08:35] <Madpilot> !tell iceman about mp3
[08:35] <radu> raghu: trying...
[08:36] <Stricklin> Ah, this is better, no? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[08:36] <iceman> mot mp3's ... mpg, wmv, mpeg's, avi's
[08:36] <robotgeek> vbgunz: there shud be firefox extensions for that.
[08:36] <vbgunz> robotgeek: you think maybe mozdev?
[08:36] <robotgeek> vbgunz: yup
[08:37] <vbgunz> robotgeek: am there... am checking now
[08:37] <cowbux> wasn't ntfs developed as an answer to linux security advantages?
[08:37] <vbgunz> robotgeek: thanks, you've helped me out on that... Yahoo sucks :P
[08:38] <cowbux> yahoo sucks
[08:38] <jumping_cows> hi all, quick question, i'm saving a text document in gedit at this time and there a thing called character coding.  erm, which one should i use, UTF-8 or ISO-8859-15?
[08:38] <Madpilot> icewt: follow that URL, it's got everything else too
[08:38] <Madpilot> jumping_cows: UTF-8 - everything else in Ubuntu uses it by default
[08:39] <jumping_cows> ah, thanks!
[08:39] <robotgeek> vbgunz: np. had the same issue myself
[08:39] <Madpilot> iceman: sorry... blasted tab-complete - do follow that URL, it's got everything, not just mp3
[08:39] <glyn> how do I change my resolution in Ubuntu?
[08:39] <cronik> how can id do this in  http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[08:40] <glyn> nm found it
[08:40] <robotgeek> glyn: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:40] <Madpilot> !+repos
[08:40] <ubotu> How to add repositories:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:40] <cronik> i tryid but i get error wen  doin apt-get update
[08:40] <cronik> any help?
[08:40] <Madpilot> cronik: use the links that ubotu posted above, not ubuntuguide.
[08:40] <Madpilot> cronik: and enter that stuff in a terminal
[08:41] <cronik> i did but i get errors
[08:41] <cronik> why?
[08:41] <vbgunz> robotgeek: ever seen this? https://passwordmaker.org/installation.html it looks decent... I saw it before *but* thought twice about it as it seems to obfuscate a password for you... In other words you give it one master password and then it will create random passwords for you for every site... So in essence you remember the main password and it enters the right passwords per site... Just curious, have you ever messed with it?
[08:41] <geneo93> apt-get -f install will fix it
[08:41] <robotgeek> vbgunz: yeah, seen that. sounds like too much work for me
[08:41] <nalioth> vbgunz: what happens when if barfs?
[08:41] <Madpilot> cronik: you'll need to paste the errors to show us
[08:42] <cronik> ok
[08:42] <vbgunz> nalioth: yup, exactly what I was thinking... god forbid huh
[08:42] <vbgunz> nalioth: I wish to try it though.. maybe it will remember the passwords I already know without changing them?
[08:43] <vbgunz> I'll experiment
[08:44] <glyn> Does anyone know what a run-time error type mismatch is?
[08:45] <kevix> glyn, what did you type to get it?
[08:46] <iceman> ok, i need a new sources list for multiverse the link i have is dead
[08:46] <cowbux> nalioth: what is the application for dial up configuration again?
[08:46] <nalioth> cowbux: howdy sir. i think it's network-admin
[08:46] <Madpilot> iceman: for breezy: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[08:46] <green-mouse> glyn: why u need this? this hepenns (for exapl)e  than u pos string vaule in intenger vereibel....
[08:47] <cowbux> and about blocking files people send, how is that done?
[08:47] <iceman> Madpiolot thanks
[08:47] <kevix> iceman, have you tried: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[08:48] <HappyFool> kevix: we don't recommend ubuntuguide, on the whole
[08:48] <nalioth> cowbux: preface folks' nicks when you speak to them please (it makes their screen light up with joy)
[08:48] <Madpilot> iceman: if you need more information, ask ubotu about repos (/msg ubotu repos)
[08:48] <HappyFool> kevix: either the wiki, or the breezy starter guide are preferred
[08:48] <cowbux> nalioth: boom
[08:48] <azertyuuu> hey all , i need to delete opera , but sudo dpkg -r opera  is being ignored .... can anyone help me
[08:49] <nalioth> cowbux: what kind of files?
[08:49] <nalioth> cowbux: what client?
[08:49] <glyn> greenmouse>I'm trying to open an exe file(game entry program)with wine and I get the message
[08:49] <glyn> kevis>wine entry.exe
[08:49] <iceman> Madpilot thanks .. again ... well see what i get ?
[08:50] <kevix> glyn, ok. wine. google for 'cedega'.
[08:50] <cowbux> nalioth: dotjpg Arizona2.  BTW that modem problem was a password error.  It seems I may benefit from the program described by vbgunz
[08:51] <glyn> kevix> I think I have wine"x"
[08:51] <bunty> hello!! anyone installed hoary on a SATA? It isn't detecting the drive!!
[08:51] <iceman> Madpiolet wow worked ... thanks lots ... now i hope the stupid Nvidia driver can go as smooth ... ;(
[08:51] <nalioth> cowbux: not following on the "block files" thing
[08:51] <green-mouse> glyn: exe file  mean windows program?
[08:52] <green-mouse> glyn: exe file u mean windows program?
[08:52] <iceman> what can i run to reconfigure my screen resolutions ... i'm limited to 1024x768 max right now ... but monitor can support much higher
[08:53] <HappyFool> !fixres
[08:53] <ubotu> I guess fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:53] <bunty> anyone using the Hoary on a SATA drive?
[08:54] <Madpilot> bunty: I am; it runs fine
[08:54] <cowbux> nalioth: rt clik ID > Direct to Client > send file (select jpg 142kb and see if it goes through)  failed twice already,  I don't think you are getting notice.
[08:54] <bunty> Lucky :-)
[08:54] <bunty> Madpilot: Any clues? what do I do here?
[08:54] <bunty> It isn't even detecting it :-(
[08:55] <nalioth> cowbux: are you getting notice? check your server tab for an answer
[08:55] <HappyFool> bunty: have you tried breezy?
[08:55] <glyn> greenmouse>yes
[08:55] <bunty> Nope! I don't have it yet.
[08:55] <kevix> glyn, did the program have an install. did you use that first?
[08:55] <bunty> Can't download as bandwidth costs are high here.
[08:55] <imterro> hey, how would one check their screen's resolution?
[08:55] <bunty> Anyway to get it to install on the hoary?
[08:56] <HappyFool> bunty: my guess is hardware support will improve with each ubuntu release
[08:56] <lsald> imterro, xorg.conf?
[08:56] <Madpilot> bunty: check your BIOS settings; force it to boot from SCSI/SATA devices
[08:56] <bunty> yes, I understand that
[08:56] <imterro> lsald, where would i find that/
[08:56] <Madpilot> HappyFool: Hoary installed flawlessly onto my SATA drive...
[08:56] <bunty> boot from SATA? hmm...well I can check that...
[08:56] <lsald> imterro, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:56] <kevix> bunty, you know you can get the cd for free on the ubuntu website.
[08:56] <vengeful_> anyone think of an ftp client similar to gftp?
[08:56] <bunty> but it has to detect it while installing
[08:57] <cowbux> nalioth: nope.  nothing here.  I will talk with you later today.  fork me, I'm done.
[08:57] <green-mouse> glyn: I not use wine or wine x, but i know waht it work not prefect because windows has closed API :(... and not all progams works in wine or winex
[08:57] <bunty> BIOS is set to non-raid...should it be raid instead?
[08:57] <imterro> thanks
[08:57] <nalioth> cowbux: unregistered users cant send messages on this network
[08:57] <imterro> wtf, my res is 1280x800 :S
[08:57] <Madpilot> bunty: BIOS (and Llinux) might call it SCSI instead - some odd legacy thing
[08:58] <bunty> ah yes! ...even my mobo is a new one
[08:58] <kevix> vengeful_, 'apt-cache search ftp'
[08:58] <Madpilot> bunty: non-raid; the fakeRAID most of us have is hard to get working in Linux
[08:58] <glyn> kevix> no install
[08:58] <vengeful_> i was looking more for recommendations, thanks though
[08:58] <bunty> so, put it on raid then?
[08:59] <cowbux> nalioth: thanks, as always, cleared up one more problem than i thought I had.  out.
[08:59] <Madpilot> bunty: NO, leave it off raid
[08:59] <kevix> glyn, well then. setup.exe. if not, then I dont know x-(
[08:59] <bunty> I guess passing a parameter to the kernel when installing might help?
[08:59] <bunty> ide=sata ..something like this?
[08:59] <bunty> any ideas
[09:00] <imterro> hmm is there anyway i can change the scree res in X?
[09:00] <moo> ctrl+alt numpadplus and minus
[09:00] <Madpilot> bunty: mine "just worked", and did for Hoary as well... sorry, I really don't know enough to help troubleshoot
[09:00] <moo> the modes have to be defined in xorg.conf tho
[09:01] <kevix> imterro, desktop->pereferences->screen resolution in gnome
[09:02] <bunty> thanks folks...I guess I'll have to try random ways of fixing this SATA thing!
[09:03] <WinZ> Help me please! what the problem can be?
[09:03] <WinZ> root@home/etc/bind# ./make-localhost
[09:03] <WinZ> ./make-localhost: line 39: PROTO.localhost-v6.rev: No such file or directory
[09:03] <WinZ> ./make-localhost: line 46: PROTO.localhost.rev: No such file or directory
[09:04] <nalioth> WinZ: please dont paste in here
[09:05] <nalioth> WinZ: the problem is self-evident
[09:05] <WinZ> nalioth, sorry..
[09:05] <caonex> hello after adding a diversion using dpkg-divert, can i just go to the /var/lib/dpkg/diversions file and remove the 3 lines added in this case and there will be no more diversions?
[09:05] <kevix> WinZ, did you read all the docs?
[09:06] <WinZ> kevix, may be not.. where I can read them?
[09:06] <kevix> caonex, if you can figure out how to create a diversion, you should just use the same MAN page to delete it?
[09:06] <caonex> kevix i did but it did not so i just did it manually
[09:07] <kevix> WinZ, it should be in /usr/share/doc/bind
[09:07] <caonex> kevix and now i am having problems and i am thinking it was for the manual change
[09:07] <Madpilot> WinZ: you know about man pages, I hope?
[09:07] <WinZ> kevix, thanks a lot
[09:07] <kevix> caonex, what where you dirverting? its a very rare thing to do.
[09:08] <glyn> anyone know what a "permission to use object denied" error is and how to fix it?
[09:08] <WinZ> Madpilot, a was searching at Wiki only :)
[09:08] <caonex> kevix i was diverting libmesa-gl to libGL.so.1.2
[09:08] <caonex> kevix for my ati card, it kept using libmesa instead of the ones from ati
[09:08] <caonex> kevix now i do not know, but it seems the diversion still not over
[09:09] <iceman> anyone here a great linux user, i just toasted another xorg.conf fild and lost x again just trying to get better resolution .. now i am on a live cd again
[09:09] <kevix> caonex, not that I know exactly what the problem is, but there has to be a better recommendation from someone in Ubuntu.
[09:09] <caonex> kevix what do you mean?
[09:09] <iceman> Someone please .... do a remote ssh login .. and fix this stupid system ... please ... after 3 installs, and fighting this, i want to scream ...
[09:10] <kevix> caonex, you are not the first person to use an ati card.
[09:10] <nalioth> iceman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is all you need to do
[09:10] <caonex> kevix yeah....the diversion is because of the use of alien from an rpm
[09:10] <nalioth> caonex: ah, redhat is biting you on the butt
[09:10] <caonex> the ati binary is not generating anyother binary file for some reason
[09:10] <iceman> nalioth there a way to run from cd rom .. or fix from the cd
[09:10] <caonex> nalioth i did not even want to use that, but no other choice
[09:11] <nalioth> iceman: you'll have to boot into the installed ubuntu
[09:11] <iceman> brb
[09:11] <nalioth> caonex: i know. i'm just makin an example to others
[09:11] <caonex> nalioth is the only driver binary that ati offers, if i use the ati binary itself it does not work
[09:11] <caonex> nalioth, kevix  now i am unable to boot X
[09:11] <caonex> nalioth kevix so i suspect is because of the diversions
[09:12] <nalioth> caonex: i can get you a gui for temporary use
[09:12] <caonex> nalioth, kevix how can i boot multiuser without initiating gdm init=3 to kernel?
[09:12] <Soondead> Just installed Ubuntu 5.10 for the first time, and the Totem player won't play ANY of my video files (.avi/.mov/.mpeg)... what am I missing? What codecs actually come with this thing??
[09:12] <nalioth> Soondead: only the ones you install
[09:12] <caonex> nalioth what gui?
[09:13] <Soondead> So how do I install additional codecs via the GUI?
[09:13] <nalioth> caonex: in a terminal, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver. you'll have X while you figure this out
[09:13] <kevix> caonex, I googled and somenoe use 'apt-get install fglrx-kernel-source xorg-driver-fglrx xserver-xorg' for ati
[09:13] <caonex> nalioth yeah also i tried using ati and radeon and it works
[09:13] <caonex> nalioth i just wanted to solve this freaking thing
[09:14] <caonex> nalioth kevix brb
[09:14] <Soondead> Kinda disappointed by a video player that doesn't even handle plain mpeg
[09:14] <nalioth> caonex: 1. ati support for linux sucks 2. rpms suck 3. what do you expect?
[09:14] <Delvien> Anyway in KDE to make konquerer open a smaller window when you click on a file?
[09:14] <Soondead> like... what DOES it support then?
[09:14] <nalioth> Soondead: ubuntu is a totally "free" distro. nothing patented comes in it by default
[09:14] <Madpilot> Soondead: most of the popular formats are patent-encumbered...
[09:15] <kevix> Soondead, free software like ubuntu doesnt like to handle non-free formats by default. you can enable them.
[09:15] <Madpilot> !tell Soondead about restricted
[09:15] <odie5533> Whenever using Azureus on Breezy I get an NAT error when testing my port. It is forwarded by my router, but I still get a NAT Error. Any ideas?
[09:15] <nalioth> odie5533: join the club, mine does too, doesnt hurt a thing
[09:16] <odie5533> Is membership to the club free?
[09:16] <Soondead> k will have a look at that page, thanks
[09:16] <glyn> anyone know what a "permission to use object denied" error is and how to fix it?
[09:17] <TiMiDo> glyn man chmod
[09:17] <kevix> glyn, please add 'i'm using wine and I get this error...' it will help people help you (if they can/will)
[09:17] <TiMiDo> or man adduser
[09:17] <vbgunz> anyone know how to tile and cascade windows on the desktop? Does Ubuntu have any features like this at all? I am looking and cannot find them :(
[09:18] <TiMiDo> vbgunz ??
[09:18] <kevix> vbgunz, not that I recall?
[09:18] <vbgunz> robotgeek: I think this is far better than mozdev.org... https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/?application={ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384} Unfortunately I have not found any password managers that seemed any good
[09:18] <glyn> TiMiDo>What would be the exact command?  man adduser entry.exe?
[09:18] <Madpilot> vbgunz: just use multiple virtual desktops...
[09:18] <TiMiDo> glyn huh?
[09:18] <kevix> Madpilot, yea!
[09:19] <TiMiDo> has to be, wine wine entry.exe
[09:19] <glyn> what do I use chmod for?
[09:19] <TiMiDo> glyn for permissions issues, read the man
[09:19] <glyn> sorry I'm not very advanced
[09:19] <TiMiDo> and you will find out,
[09:19] <glyn> k
[09:19] <caonex> nalioth, is there a way when starting gdm that if it fails it wont freeze the system
[09:19] <TiMiDo> you don't really have to be advanced to read a manual
[09:19] <nalioth> caonex: not that i'm aware of
[09:19] <vbgunz> Madpilot: I do use multiple desktops but some windows need to stay on a single desktop... e.g. Firefox, Thunderbird and GAIM are the net apps... They have they're own desktop ... Although GAIM remains in the tray till needed, I'd like Thunderbird and Firefox to be cascaded... I am always manually cascading them...
[09:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell caonex about bum
[09:20] <caonex> nalioth, that will tell you it could not start properly and stuff, i usually get this but i want to force it
[09:20] <kevix> glyn if you want wine help, there is a ton of folks on #winehq
[09:21] <robotgeek> vbgunz: can u just tell me the name of the extension?
[09:21] <iceman> nalioth i typed  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.org .... i get a error that the package does not exist ..
[09:21] <glyn> is chmod + entry.exe the correct command to give me permissions?  I don't really comprehend the manual
[09:21] <vbgunz> I am surprised at how much I actually counted on these features when in Windows... It's one of those little things...
[09:21] <thechitowncubs> have any of you tried Synergy?
[09:21] <robotgeek> iceman: it's xserver-xorg
[09:21] <thechitowncubs> its the best thing thats ever happened to me
[09:22] <nalioth> iceman: it's xserver-xorg
[09:22] <vbgunz> robotgeek: extension? I didn't link you any specific extension... I was just telling you that link for extensions I believe is far better than mozdev... I like the organization on that site Vs mozdev, thats all :P
[09:22] <kevix> thechitowncubs, no. but its cool.
[09:22] <robotgeek> vbgunz: oh, okie. got it
[09:22] <iceman> God no way for someone to remote login and fix this stupid thing ... after 3 install's and 3 fails screwing with x i am about to go back to the previous release ...
[09:22] <vbgunz> that {bracket} thing is kind of scary huh :P
[09:23] <kevix> iceman, did you have vesa working?
[09:23] <iceman> vese ?
[09:23] <iceman> i'm on a live cd at the moment
[09:23] <iceman> vesa ... ?
[09:24] <kevix> iceman, and it has X working?
[09:24] <glyn> does anyone know the command to give you permissions to files?
[09:24] <nalioth> iceman: did you run the reconfigure command?
[09:24] <moo> ls -l
[09:24] <moo> lists em
[09:24] <iceman> live cd has gnome running ... harddrive install i have no x
[09:24] <moo> chmod changes em
[09:24] <kevix> glyn, you will get better help in #winehq
[09:25] <iceman> reboot... restart .. wait again .. then back to cd .. then back to harddrive ... and three istalls down
[09:25] <kevix> iceman 'cat /etc/X111/xorg.conf' and see what it uses. write it down with pencil if you have to.
[09:25] <Madpilot> glyn: chmod? - "man chmod" in a terminal
[09:25] <moo> -a
[09:25] <moo> -1
[09:25] <nalioth> iceman write this down: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg      choose the VESA driver (let everything else autodetect or pick the default answer)
[09:26] <iceman> no way to admin this from the cd ?
[09:26] <lando> ok, When installing ubuntu I got firefox 1.0.2 , I just downloaded 1.0.7 and would like to replace 1.0.2. where do i need to install the file?
[09:26] <kevix> iceman you can mount your HD and copy the file to it if you want to.
[09:26] <rathma> hey all
[09:26] <nalioth> kevix: easier just to reconfigure it with VESA
[09:26] <lando> hey rathma
[09:26] <Soondead> ok... so I installed w32codecs... do I have to reboot for it to work? Totem still can't open anything :-|
[09:26] <odie5533> nalioth, do you notice any slowdown on Azureus since it has the NAT error?
[09:27] <rathma> lando, hi
[09:27] <iceman> kevix   walk me through ..
[09:27] <odie5533> Soondead: try registering the gstreamer codecs maybe
[09:27] <nalioth> odie5533: nope, not at all
[09:27] <kevix> nalioth, I think it maybe easier to copy the cd config to his hd.
[09:27] <odie5533> Soondead, gst-register-0.8
[09:27] <kevix> iceman, ok. 1) do you know what the partition of your root file system is? like /dev/hda1 ?
[09:27] <odie5533> Soondead, also make sure you are using totem-xine, totem-gstreamer is very... incompatible.
[09:28] <iceman> hdb for root
[09:28] <Soondead> uh ok
[09:28] <kevix> iceman, ok. so is it /dev/hdb1 or something else?
[09:28] <iceman> kevix I believe that is right
[09:28] <kevix> nalioth, I think I should be able to walk him throught this with no problem.
[09:29] <nalioth> kevix: either way
[09:29] <kevix> iceman, ok. 2) 'sudo mkdir /newroot'
[09:30] <iceman> kevix from cd ... correct
[09:30] <nuck> hi howdo i fix the following error The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:30] <nuck>   language-pack-en-base: Depends: locales (>= 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu3) but it is not installable
[09:30] <nuck> while installing another package through aptitude install
[09:30] <kevix> iceman, ok. 3) 'sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /newroot'
[09:31] <kevix> nick, did you fix your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:31] <iceman> kevix not hdb1 i guess ... humm
[09:31] <kevix> nuck, did you fix your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:32] <kevix> iceman, ok. tyep 'sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb' this will show your disk. look at the screen. then ONLY press 'q'
[09:33] <stevejesus> hi guys.  been a while
[09:33] <TiMiDo> has it?
[09:33] <stevejesus> indeed
[09:33] <nuck> kevix i don't think the sources.list is wrong as it points to hoary which is what i have installed (5.04)
[09:33] <stevejesus> i havent been here for 2 weeks.  tahts when i lost my drive
[09:33] <hackersend> anyone who use lfs
[09:33] <stevejesus> can someone help me with something?
[09:33] <kevix> hackersend, lufs?
[09:34] <Chizn> why are opengl apps so sluggish even though i have the right drivers installed, is there a gl config thing anywhere i need to sort out?
[09:34] <iceman> shows hdb1 ... ext3 file type
[09:34] <stevejesus> there is a great sources.list that i found on the ubuntu wiki with all the goodies working and i cant find it as i have list my bookmarks
[09:34] <Chizn> im getting 2.3fps on tux racer with a radeon x800 grfx card
[09:34] <odie5533> Chizn: You probably don't have drivers installed
[09:34] <stevejesus> i am running breezy badger
[09:35] <Madpilot> !tell stevejesus about repos
[09:35] <kevix> iceman, so what happened when you typed 'sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /newroot' ?
[09:35] <hackersend> Do you have the game uplink
[09:35] <Chizn> odie5533, i went to the ati site to get them and install them, is there any reason they dont seem to have dont anything?
[09:35] <iceman> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,
[09:35] <iceman>        missing codepage or other error
[09:35] <iceman>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[09:35] <iceman>        dmesg | tail  or so
[09:35] <josh43> anyone here got evdev running?
[09:35] <odie5533> iceman: no multiline pastes
[09:36] <iceman> it's mounted already by the cd i think
[09:36] <odie5533> Chizn: did you edit your xorg.conf file?
[09:36] <Chizn> yeap
[09:36] <kevix> iceman, ok. 3) 'sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /newroot'
[09:36] <Chizn> i ran the rglfxconfig with my ati drivers and it did it for me
[09:36] <odie5533> Chizn: Did you reboot your xserver?
[09:36] <Chizn> yea, i rebooted the pc
[09:36] <Chizn> twice
[09:36] <odie5533> can't help you then, sorry
[09:36] <Chizn> ok then
[09:37] <Chizn> thanks anyway
[09:37] <Soondead> There... dumped totem-gstreamer and installed totem-xine -> success
[09:37] <odie5533> Soondead, congrats
[09:37] <Soondead> Thanks guys
[09:37] <kevix> iceman, ok. type 'mount' and tell me where it is mounted ? look for the line with /dev/hdb1
[09:37] <Soondead> Why is the crappiest player the default that comes with Badger...?
[09:37] <stevejesus> ubotu:  thank you.  im assuming that the 2 letter code for the us is simply us?
[09:37] <ubotu> stevejesus: my pleasure
[09:37] <iceman> kevix no error
[09:37] <nuck> what was that command again to check if a package is installed? thanks
[09:38] <odie5533> Soondead, It comes with all of the releases and it doesn't seem to play anything
[09:38] <TiMiDo> nuck whereis packaged
[09:38] <TiMiDo> and if you don't get nothing that means is not installed nuck
[09:38] <adam_r> is there any audio rippers that use the internet CDDB for ubuntu
[09:38] <kevix> iceman, correct the 'mount' command should have no error. ok. so what does it show for /dev/hdb1 ?
[09:38] <odie5533> I believe totem-gstreamer is a dummy package for totem-xine since xine is not free
[09:38] <iceman> kevix ubuntu@ubuntu:/dev$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /newroot
[09:38] <iceman>  that gave no error
[09:38] <nuck> TiMiDo wait the double negative confused me
[09:38] <robotgeek> odie5533: that's not the thing
[09:39] <Soondead> hehe... now, if I could get sound as well, I'd be extatic :o)
[09:39] <odie5533> robotgeek, whats the use of totem-gstreamer then?
[09:39] <kevix> iceman, just to make sure type 'mount' and see that is next to /dev/hdb1 .
[09:39] <robotgeek> odie5533: totem can either use gstreamer, or xine at the backend. hence two packages
[09:39] <odie5533> robotgeek, but the gstreamer backend won't play anything
[09:39] <nuck> TiMiDo: you meant if i get nothing its not installed
[09:39] <odie5533> Soondead, are your speakers plugged in and turned on?
[09:39] <nuck> i got whereis libtools
[09:39] <nuck> libtools:
[09:40] <iceman> kevis it's listed as follows ..  /dev/hdb1 on /newroot type ext3 (rw)
[09:40] <stevejesus> what can you guys tell me about the seveas packages?  should i enable them?  will there be conflicts?  should i only enable them for certain packages?
[09:40] <spiral> hi
[09:40] <robotgeek> odie5533: it does, it has a few issues :). they are acknowledged issues, and be assured, ppl are working day and night to fix them!
[09:40] <Soondead> I get sound from some .avi files but not all, so it must be another codec thing
[09:40] <hackersend> only english,no chinese
[09:40] <odie5533> robotgeek, is it planned to work for 6.04? Are the release plans out for 6.04?
[09:40] <kevix> iceman, ok. perfect. so now the copying. type 'cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /newroot/root/'
[09:41] <azertyuuu> hey all, i'm trying to install superkaramba but it can't find a C compiler , which applications do i need more
[09:41] <odie5533> robotgeek, I prefer totem to vlc, its more integratable into firefox.
[09:41] <stevejesus> ubotu:  what can you guys tell me about the seveas packages?  should i enable them?  will there be conflicts?  should i only enable them for certain packages?
[09:41] <ubotu> stevejesus: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[09:41] <robotgeek> odie5533: a vlc firefox plugin would fix that :)
[09:41] <bozel> hi
[09:41] <odie5533> azertyuuu, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:41] <robotgeek> stevejesus: it shud be alright
[09:41] <adam_r> can i make Sound Juicer access the CDDB
[09:41] <bozel> i installed fglrx, but fglrxinfo says:
[09:41] <bozel> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[09:41] <bozel> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[09:41] <bozel> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:41] <bozel> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[09:41] <odie5533> robotgeek, Oh? Is there a tutorial on the forums for using VLC?
[09:41] <stevejesus> ubotu:  well, i guess ill give them a shot.
[09:41] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, stevejesus
[09:42] <mdke> how can I do the commando line equivalent of seeing packages which are "Installed but Obsolete" in synaptic?
[09:42] <iceman> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cp /etc/x11/xorg.conf /newroot/root/
[09:42] <iceman> cp: cannot stat `/etc/x11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[09:42] <kevix> adam_r, as long as your online, I think it does.
[09:42] <bozel> how do i change this?
[09:42] <adam_r> its not working for me here
[09:42] <azertyuuu> odie5533: thanx
[09:42] <robotgeek> odie5533: i dunno if it's possible, but someone shud work on it :)
[09:42] <mdke> iceman, capital X
[09:42] <mdke> X11
[09:42] <odie5533> robotgeek, o I thought there might be one :(
[09:43] <kevix> mdke, opps. good catch! 'cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /newroot/root/'
[09:43] <odie5533> bozel, what are you trrying to change?
[09:43] <mdke> someone is an apt expert here, who can answer my question!
[09:43] <rathma> lando, you play the tremulous?
[09:43] <iceman> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /newroot/root/
[09:43] <iceman> cp: cannot create regular file `/newroot/root/xorg.conf': Permission denied
[09:43] <iceman> sudo cp ?
[09:43] <bozel> the driver
[09:43] <kevix> iceman, opps. forgot to capitalize. ok.  'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /newroot/root/'
[09:44] <robotgeek> odie5533: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/video-playback for 6.04. i think you might want to try the mozex extension, i am not sure if it will work
[09:44] <bozel> i ve ati Radeon 9800
[09:44] <odie5533> robotgeek, I have tryed the extension. It always gave me problems when loading remote video files in totem/vlc
[09:44] <iceman> kevix ok worked as sudo ...
[09:45] <fredy> how can i change the brown background when gnome starts up?
[09:45] <vbgunz> Does anyone here know how best to tell if I might need a 686 kernel? I am googling but cannot find how to tell if I need it... How do you tell?
[09:45] <stevejesus> ubotu: i made my sources.list but it doesnt function.  where can i find all of these gpg keys and how do i install them via apt?
[09:45] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, stevejesus
[09:45] <crimsun> vbgunz: look at your /proc/cpuinfo
[09:45] <kevix> iceman, ok. I put a copy of the config in /root/xorg.conf on your main hard drive. next you can copy that to your hard drive X config.
[09:45] <odie5533> stevejesus, ubotu is a bot
[09:45] <stevejesus> is ubotu a bot?
[09:46] <stevejesus> oh
[09:46] <stevejesus> thanks
[09:46] <odie5533> yes
[09:46] <odie5533> lol
[09:46] <stevejesus> odie5533?
[09:46] <odie5533> yes?
[09:46] <stevejesus> odie5533:  can you help me with something?
[09:46] <odie5533> sure I can try
[09:46] <kevix> iceman, so. 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /newroot/etc/X11/xorg.conf' this will overright the one on the HD.
[09:46] <iceman> where is it located now ...
[09:46] <robotgeek> odie5533: okay, not good. i wont try it then :)
[09:46] <bluefrog-10> I set up apt-proxy on breezy. using synaptic works (I have installed one package). Now I'd like to import the existing /var/cache/apt/archives into my /data/apt-proxy. When I do apt-proxy-import -r -i /var/cache/apt/archives it keeps telling me "no suitable backend found. What am I missing pls?
[09:46] <stevejesus> odie5533:  i have just made a sources.list and ofcourse i followed this action my doing a spt-get update
[09:46] <vbgunz> crimsun: I do not see anything in there referring to 386 OR 686...
[09:46] <odie5533> robotgeek, try away, it must work for someone or it wouldnt exist
[09:47] <kevix> iceman, it will be in /root/xorg.conf and /etc/X11/xorg.conf so that you will always have a backup copy
[09:47] <stevejesus> odie5533:  it isnt functioning.  it is asking for gpg keys and i dont know where to obtain them
[09:47] <robotgeek> odie5533: my firefox is already slow. plus, i don't have codecs
[09:47] <vbgunz> crimsun: processor says 0
[09:47] <odie5533> stevejesus, paste your sources.list to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[09:47] <odie5533> robotgeek, vlc that good eh?
[09:47] <kevix> iceman, did the last command finish.
[09:48] <vbgunz> robotgeek: remember that link I gave you to those extensions for Firefox... Theres an extension called FasterFox... it's nice...
[09:48] <crimsun> vbgunz: err, what?
[09:48] <robotgeek> odie5533: vlc is good. but i am on vlc, so i can't install codecs anyways
[09:48] <iceman> yes  .. here  back to back ... ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /newroot/root/
[09:48] <iceman> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /newroot/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:48] <robotgeek> vbgunz: i got a extension called menuX, that's nice too :)
[09:48] <stevejesus> odie5533:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3819
[09:48] <vbgunz> crimsun, thats what my files says... Processor: 0 and cpu MHz: 2600.616
[09:49] <crimsun> vbgunz: surely it says more than that.
[09:49] <vbgunz> robotgeek: I will check that out
[09:49] <iceman> so what we took the xorg.conf from the cd and placed it in the place of the one on the harddrive ..
[09:49] <hackersend> How can I remove a package
[09:49] <kevix> iceman, ok. so now to finish. 'sudo umount /newroot' this un-mounts the hard drive.
[09:49] <hackersend> dpkg
[09:49] <hackersend> ?
[09:49] <mdke> how can I do the command line equivalent of seeing packages which are "Installed but Obsolete" in synaptic?
[09:49] <vbgunz> crimsun it does but I mean I cannot find anything referring to 386 OR 686...
[09:49] <crimsun> vbgunz: I'd like the contents on paste
[09:49] <vbgunz> crimsun
[09:49] <vbgunz> crimsun: ok
[09:49] <crimsun> vbgunz: look at the cpu family
[09:49] <iceman> kevix ill reboot ... that will unmount .. see if the harddrive works
[09:49] <odie5533> stevejesus, you are missing the deb-src lines. Thats not good. Copy and paste each of the lines there, and instead of just deb at the beginning put deb-src. So you have 2 lines each, 1 deb and 1 deb-src
[09:49] <kevix> mdke, deborphan may be it.
[09:49] <crimsun> vbgunz: and the model name
[09:50] <kevix> iceman, umout first. then you can reboot.
[09:50] <zblach> hi
[09:50] <zblach> i'm having some trouble with synaptic, can i get help with that here?
[09:50] <kevix> iceman, and if the cdrom has the same Xorg as the cd, it should work.
[09:50] <stevejesus> odie5533:  ill give it a shot.  however, the sources.list generator gave me a choice of whether or not to use them.  and if im not building anything.... oh well ill try it
[09:50] <vbgunz> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3820
[09:50] <mdke> kevix, no it must use dpkg or apt, synaptic can see them without deborphan installed
[09:51] <iceman> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo unmount /newroot
[09:51] <iceman> sudo: unmount: command not found
[09:51] <zblach> iceman, its 'umount' not 'un-'
[09:51] <kevix> iceman, unix is tricky. its 'umount' not 'unmount' x-)
[09:51] <odie5533> stevejesus, here is my sources.list - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3821
[09:51] <zblach> i can't seem to install eclipse and azureus at the same time
[09:52] <iceman> umount work // ;)
[09:52] <odie5533> unmount should be symlinked to umount... like vi to vim
[09:52] <stevejesus> odie5533:  i owe you one
[09:52] <iceman> let see what a reboot does ... ;) ... thanks
[09:52] <crimsun> vbgunz: you have a Pentium 4. You can install either 686 or 686-smp
[09:52] <kevix> mdke, synaptic may have deborphan logic built in?
[09:53] <antix> I have a disk with lvm volumes on that I want to activate on a machine.. but I can't figure out how? when I try lvscan it just lists the devices already active..
[09:53] <vbgunz> crimsun: how am I able to tell that? I was looking for information regarding if I needed a 686 kernel but finding that info is hard... How do you know?
[09:53] <root__> ubuntu comes with gnome and kubuntu comes with kde? right?
[09:53] <mjr> root__, right
[09:53] <crimsun> vbgunz: I know from experience. Google would also tell you.
[09:53] <kevix> vbgunz, 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'
[09:53] <mdke> kevix, well deborphan tells you orphaned packages, this tells you the packages that are installed from locally or which are not found in the apt cache from the repositories
[09:53] <odie5533> I believe there are a few more differences than just the window manager, but thats the basics
[09:54] <kevix> mdke, IIRC aptitude does that?
[09:54] <mdke> kevix, how?
[09:54] <zblach> i guess libswt3.1-gtk-jni != libswt-gtk-3.1-jni
[09:54] <kevix> mdke, I will check.
[09:54] <mdke> kevix, ah i see it, cool
[09:55] <zblach> iceman, how runs it?
[09:55] <kevix> mdke, 'obselete ....'
[09:55] <iceman> kevix awsome ... thanks man
[09:55] <traveller> i just upgraded from hoary to breezy, the whole system locks up whenever i try to access the internet, or sometimes at random, does anyone know why is that?
[09:55] <iceman> worked
[09:55] <zblach> traveller, it doesn't like you
[09:55] <vbgunz> crimsun: I am sorry, kevix I am sorry, I mean, looking at the specs I am not sure what I am looking at... Ubuntu chose 386 but I heard stories in here of people getting 386 when it should have been 686... My question is, how do I know this and why didn't Ubuntu pick it up? Outside of Ubuntu maybe getting it wrong, how do I know outside of you telling me I need it, i googled but could not understand from what I found whether I needed it or
[09:55] <mi5ery> etgfgh
[09:55] <kevix> iceman, cool! on to USING ubuntu instaed of pulling hair out!
[09:55] <traveller> zblach: that's depressing :/
[09:55] <iceman> Now the hard part ... Installing the Nvidia Driver ... ?
[09:56] <zblach> traveller, had the same problem. fixed it with a shiney new breezy disc and a replatform
[09:56] <Tux> hi
[09:56] <Tux> where can i get a new theme?
[09:56] <iceman> kevix in the process i got the resolution changes from the cd version
[09:56] <zblach> ringtones.com
[09:57] <traveller> zblach: i tried with a clean install, made things worse, the network won't even start up properly
[09:57] <iceman> Walk me through the "Complete" install of the nvidia Drivers ...
[09:57] <zblach> transgress, wireless?
[09:57] <vbgunz> Tux: gnome-look.org
[09:57] <stevejesus> odie5533:  still getting gpg errors.  where can i find the keys at?
[09:57] <crimsun> vbgunz: 386 is chosen because it works across all the 386-family
[09:57] <zblach> *** traveller, wireless?
[09:57] <traveller> zblach: yeah, a netgear card using texas instruments chipset
[09:57] <vbgunz> crimsun: ok, 686 isn't exactly a special breed *but* it was built with my specs in mind or something like that correct?
[09:58] <odie5533> stevejesus, I'm not sure myself, sorry
[09:58] <zblach> traveller, you get drivers for it yet?
[09:58] <zblach> why (libswt3.1-gtk-jni != libswt-gtk-3.1-jni)
[09:58] <stevejesus> odie5533:  does apt-get have an import gpg keys function like rpm does?
[09:58] <traveller> zblach: the card works with hoary
[09:58] <HappyFool> stevejesus: 'man apt-key'
[09:58] <bluefrog-10> I set up apt-proxy on breezy. using synaptic works (I have installed one package). Now I'd like to import the existing /var/cache/apt/archives into my /data/apt-proxy. When I do apt-proxy-import -r -i /var/cache/apt/archives it keeps telling me "no suitable backend found. What am I missing pls?
[09:59] <zblach> traveller, regardless, have you the drivers?
[09:59] <zblach> thoreauputic, wb
[09:59] <stevejesus> HappyFool:  have you gotten these gpg errors from apt before?  is there a quick way to just grab them all and install them?
[09:59] <crimsun> vbgunz: 686-smp is closest, yes
[09:59] <traveller> zblach: i don't think there are official drivers, and since it works with hoary, i would suppose the upgrade gets the breezy drivers as well. other than that i have no idea
[09:59] <Danny|> is there a command to see how long my system has been up, when it was installed etc?
[09:59] <HappyFool> stevejesus: no, i only use the standard repos and the keys come preinstalled
[09:59] <HappyFool> stevejesus: there's an example on the wiki
[09:59] <Tux> where can i get a new theme?
[10:00] <vbgunz> Tux: www.gnome-look.org and www.gnome.com
[10:00] <stevejesus> HappyFool:  can you point me toward the url?  i would appreciate it greatly.
[10:00] <HappyFool> stevejesus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary
[10:00] <Madpilot> !tell Tux about themes
[10:00] <Tux> vbgunz how do i install them
[10:00] <antix> anybody know how to mount lvm partitions?
[10:01] <zblach> thoreauputic, i'm getting some funny stuff with azureus + eclipse: libswt3.1-gtk-jni != libswt-gtk-3.1-jni
[10:01] <stevejesus> HappyFool:  thank you
[10:01] <vbgunz> crimsun: 686 smp seems to be for multiprocessors.. I have a single processor, so I need just plain jane 686
[10:01] <iceman> wheres the bianary howto link for nvidia
[10:01] <HappyFool> stevejesus: good luck
[10:01] <kevix> iceman, I had to get a donut and some milk. umm. donut!
[10:01] <zblach> ubotu, tell iceman about nvidia
[10:01] <vbgunz> Tux: download the theme then drag and drop it onto the theme editor
[10:01] <vbgunz> or choose install theme from the theme editor and browse to the downloaded package
[10:01] <iceman> ty
[10:02] <thoreauputic> zblach: I don't know anything about eclipse etc -n in fact the whole java thing is a closed book to me, sorry :|
[10:02] <zblach> np,
[10:02] <zblach> well, taht is to say, thanks anyways
[10:02] <zblach> libswt3.1-gtk-jni != libswt-gtk-3.1-jni <<- looks like the same thing with a different name
[10:02] <thoreauputic> zblach: I know a bit about this and that, but I'm no universal expert I fear ;)
[10:03] <stevejesus> HappyFool:  can i run apt-get sans gpg?  i mean, can i force apt to download and install without authentication?
[10:03] <HappyFool> stevejesus: you should be able to
[10:03] <robotgeek_away> stevejesus: try a apt-get upgrade -y
[10:03] <HappyFool> stevejesus: it should ask y/n -- after asking if it's ok to download
[10:03] <sebastian_> hello
[10:04] <thoreauputic> Danny|:  the uptime command will tell you how long since last reaboot
[10:04] <thoreauputic> *reboot
[10:04] <stevejesus> HappyFool:  thanks for the info.  the man apt page is pityful to say the least
[10:04] <vbgunz> good night fellas, I am dead tired... thank you fellas so much for all your help, it is greatly appreciated!
[10:04] <Zyme> how do i change the permisions for a bunch of files that are within a folder without doing them all individually?
[10:04] <HappyFool> stevejesus: heh
[10:04] <robotgeek_away> stevejesus: apt-get --allow-unauthenticated should be better
[10:04] <Danny|> thoreauputic, thanks, how about wheni t was installed?
[10:04] <HappyFool> stevejesus: try 'man apt-get' and 'man aptitude'
[10:04] <HappyFool> stevejesus: also read the apt-howto
[10:04] <zblach> Zyme, sudo chmod +### -r
[10:05] <zblach> Zyme, sudo chmod +### -r $PATH
[10:05] <judge> does anyone nkow anything about GRUB and MBR???
[10:05] <thoreauputic> Danny|: hmm - there's an install log in /var/log somewhere I think
[10:05] <robotgeek_away> zblach: #?
[10:05] <stevejesus> HappyFool:  any idea as to why it doesnt just work?
[10:05] <iceman> I got a error here .. help ...
[10:05] <stevejesus> HappyFool:  this is a fresh istall
[10:05] <iceman> posting in #flood
[10:05] <HappyFool> zblach: -R ;)
[10:05] <zblach> # being the octal permission set.
[10:05] <HappyFool> stevejesus: what doesn't just work ?
[10:05] <zblach> HappyFool, thanks
[10:05] <sebastian_> I'm a new user from ubuntu .. and i really like it .. i only have one problem ... i' using firefox as my webbrowser but it's verrrrrrrrry very slow ... do you have any idea's whys that? (The problem is not the internet conection ... on my mac the speed is fine ... even with firefox)
[10:05] <thoreauputic> Danny|:  /var/log/installer
[10:06] <stevejesus> HappyFool:  ap-get.  i have never had to fetch gpg keys in hoary, or a previous install of breezy
[10:06] <Danny|> thoreauputic, thanks :)
[10:06] <judge> sebastian: in the Ubuntu starter guide theres a few ways to speed up firefox
[10:06] <HappyFool> stevejesus: try changing your repos to point at archive.ubuntu.com (instead of a mirror). and run 'apt-get update' a few times
[10:06] <stevejesus> HappyFool:  i am very used to it in fedora though
[10:06] <iceman> this is the dang Nvidia Driver giving a error
[10:06] <sebastian_> judge: thnx .. i'll look it up
[10:06] <HappyFool> stevejesus: i had problems with unauthenticated packages now and then, but rerunning apt-get *usually* sorted them out
[10:06] <iceman> kevix i downloaded
[10:07] <iceman> kevix manual edit ... correct
[10:07] <HappyFool> stevejesus: if it persists, consider removing the downloaded package lists (but that is a hack, and should be done with care)
[10:07] <zblach> pr0noob?
[10:08] <HappyFool> a n00b who lost his amateur status
[10:08] <ProN00b> since i installed (apt-get) some of the gstreamer plugins and some other stuff gnomebaker doesn't work anymore, it just freezes on the Burning disk... window at 0%
[10:08] <stevejesus> would someone with a working sources.list that has all the goodies enabled share thier wealth with me?  ill buy you a cheeseburger
[10:09] <judge> Hi, does anyone know why GRUB will work from a floppy but not from my hardrive?
[10:09] <thoreauputic> !tell stevejesus about sources
[10:10] <ProN00b> ok, another thingy is that xchat just crashed when i dragged a file to it
[10:10] <nuck> 4 more hours and ive been awake 24 hours yay!
[10:10] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: more goodies here >> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/all/
[10:10] <odie5533> How do I mount an ISO file as a cdc drive?
[10:10] <odie5533> *cd
[10:10] <bluefrog-10> mount -o loop iso.file /mountpoint
[10:10] <thoreauputic> odie5533:  mount -o loop file.iso /media/cdrom
[10:11] <odie5533> ty
[10:11] <thoreauputic> cd /media/cdrom  ; ls
[10:11] <thoreauputic> ;)
[10:11] <ProN00b> can anyone tell me an alternative to gnomebaker ?
[10:11] <odie5533> ProN00b, graveman, k3b
[10:11] <ProN00b> or what i might reinstall to make it work again ?
[10:11] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: graveman
[10:11] <odie5533> xcdroast
[10:12] <ProN00b> with k3b the kde libs scare me a bit
[10:12] <ProN00b> but sooner or later i will have to install em anyway
[10:12] <thoreauputic> odie5533: xcdroast works, but it's ugly to look at ;)
[10:12] <Chizn> what version of xfree86 does the latest ubuntu have?
[10:12] <azertyuuu> hi all, i just compiled superkaramba, but how can i start it ? i don't see anything of it in the startmenu
[10:12] <Madpilot> ProN00b: get k3b, it's better than the gnome-native apps...
[10:13] <thoreauputic> Chizn:  xorg ( about 6.8 I think )
[10:13] <kevix> Chizn, it uses X.org not Xfree
[10:13] <ProN00b> ima try graveman, and then xcdroast... and then k3b
[10:13] <thoreauputic> Chizn:  type   X -version  to see
[10:13] <stevejesus> can someone tell me whats wrong with this?  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3822tp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3822
[10:13] <Madpilot> ProN00b: remember that Nautilus - the file manager - can burn data CDs & ISOs, and in Breezy Serpentine will burn audio
[10:14] <ProN00b> oi, i thought that just launches gnomebaker, Madpilot, but serpentine worked great for me
[10:15] <stevejesus> can someone tell me whats wrong with this?  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3822tp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3822
[10:15] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: no need to repeat - I'm looking
[10:16] <jewel_> stevejesus:  That's the exact same as mine
[10:16] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: looks OK - are you getting errors?
[10:17] <ProN00b> oh, yeah maybe time to mention that i get apt-cache search errors after a reboot if i didn't apt-get update first
[10:17] <iceman> kevix there a way to properly test that the driver is correct ...
[10:17] <kevix> robotgeek, did you every find out about tamil.
[10:17] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: yes, known bug
[10:17] <kevix> iceman, if it runs?
[10:17] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  yes.  i have been trying to do an apt-get update as i had just changed the file.  at the end i get gpg errors and it asks me to do an apt-get update.
[10:18] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: try setting synaptic to not do daily updates automatically
[10:18] <robotgeek> kevix: nope, did not bother. i can't read tamil. i can speak it though
[10:18] <ProN00b> its not a problem and i dislike synaptic, so i will disregard that ^^
[10:18] <iceman> gnome has always restarted , but a complete reboot has toasted me 3 times
[10:19] <iceman> whats command for nvidia tools
[10:19] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: no, you misundestood me - I mean if you diable automatic updates in synaptic it cures the problem with apt-cache
[10:19] <kevix> iceman, if gnmoe is restarted. then it worked I guess. continue with the command that you had a problem with.
[10:19] <thoreauputic> *disable
[10:19] <jewel_> Here's some speculation as to the name of dapper+1: http://thesteve.org/ubuntu/
[10:19] <Albaraha> After Upgrading from Hoary to Breezy, I have OpenOffice 2.0 Beta and 2.0 installed together. How do I remove OO.org 2.0 Beta and keep 2.0?
[10:19] <kevix> iceman, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:20] <antix> anybody know how to mount lvm partitions? I added an old disk with some lvm volumes on..
[10:20] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: I also use apt-get  /apt-cache - but it appears synaptic runs a daily cron and if you aren't connected it failsd
[10:20] <iceman> tell me again about nvidia
[10:20] <ProN00b> ok, how do i disable them, thoreauputic ?
[10:20] <iceman> need the link again
[10:21] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  does this happen often?
[10:21] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: from memory you go into the repository settings and find the options
[10:21] <Delvien> Anyone know what the install for alien is ? so i can change RPMs
[10:21] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: what?
[10:21] <iceman> that same error
[10:22] <kevix> Delvien, before you use alien, what did you want to install?
[10:22] <kevix> iceman, go to flood.
[10:22] <Cryptid> How do i upgrade my Hoary to Breezy?i have Breezy installation disk with me please tell what do i have to do to upgrade Ubuntu....
[10:22] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  the errors that i told you about
[10:22] <Chizn> how do i check if certain modules are loaded on the kernel?
[10:22] <jewel_> Chizn: lsmod
[10:22] <Delvien> kevix limewire
[10:22] <ProN00b> got it "Automatically check for software updates." interval 1 day, that it, thoreauputic ?
[10:22] <iceman> #flood
[10:23] <thoreauputic> stevejesus:  gpg errors - sometimes they disappear if you wait a while and update again I find
[10:23] <Madpilot> !tel Cryptid about breezy
[10:23] <ubotu> Madpilot: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:23] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: yup
[10:23] <Madpilot> !tell Cryptid about breezy
[10:23] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: I just unchecked it
[10:24] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  hmm  well i am glad that works for you.  I on the other hand have been doing them for about an hour
[10:24] <ProN00b> k, thanks, thoreauputic
[10:24] <azertyuuu> how can i open a .sh-file
[10:24] <azertyuuu> ubotu sh
[10:24] <ubotu> azertyuuu: Bugger all, i dunno
[10:24] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: erm - I meant  alonger wait than that
[10:25] <azertyuuu> Madpilot: how can i open a .sh-file
[10:25] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: no guarantees - but seemed to fix it here
[10:26] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  well, i suppose ill wait as long as it takes, even though that doesnt make much sense.
[10:26] <thoreauputic> azertyuuu: you don't open it - you run it: it's a script
[10:26] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  please dont take that the wrong way as I do appreciate your assistance
[10:27] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: *sigh* Look, it may be that I just don't know what your problem is - I'm not omniscient
[10:27] <lostbits> hello
[10:27] <nalioth_wrkn> azertyuuu: in a text editor
[10:27] <lostbits> anyone here would know how to recover data from an accidentally formatted flash disk ?
[10:27] <ProN00b> btw, thanks whoever recommended graveman, its much better than gnomebacker shit
[10:28] <jewel_> lostbits:  What kind of data?
[10:28] <lostbits> data files
[10:28] <azertyuuu> thoreauputic: it's crossoffice-... .sh , how can i run it then ?
[10:28] <lostbits> office documents and so on
[10:28] <thoreauputic> azertyuuu: normally you would do   sh nameofscript.sh
[10:29] <nalioth> ProN00b: k3b beats it hands down, tho
[10:29] <thoreauputic> azertyuuu: or if it's already executable,  ./nameofscript.sh
[10:29] <jewel_> lostbits: You can use dd to copy off the raw data
[10:29] <Tux> how can i set xmms as my default movie viewer?
[10:29] <azertyuuu> Th thanx
[10:29] <jewel_> lostbits: I don't know how to do anything more than that though.
[10:29] <thoreauputic> azertyuuu: surely crossover office has instructions?
[10:29] <lostbits> jewel > yep, that would be one choice
[10:29] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  as i said, thank you for your assistance.  i was just hoping for a more fortified answer.  if you dont have a key then you dont have a key.  i dont see how they could possibly disapear only to re-appear at random intervals.  im trying to research the topic right now, but honestly i just want to find the keys so that i can install them via apt.
[10:30] <thoreauputic> Tux: xmms for movies? Why ?
[10:30] <lostbits> unfortunately gpart is not helpful ..
[10:30] <Tux> thoreauputic because its good, how do i set it default
[10:30] <Tux> thoreauputic i mean xine
[10:30] <Tux> :S
[10:30] <jewel_> lostbits: try dd'ing the whole disk and then open the raw file and see what's inside
[10:30] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: oh, you don't have keys? I ,meant that sometimes the gpg on the server is wrong
[10:31] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  hahaha
[10:31] <lostbits> jewel > i will do that, let me man dd a bit ..
[10:31] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  now we are on the same page
[10:31] <azertyuuu> thoreauputic: i get this error "Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key"
[10:31] <jewel_> lostbits:  dd if=/dev/sda of=/tmp/disk.raw bs=1k
[10:31] <thoreauputic> azertyuuu: erm, re you running as root?
[10:31] <jewel_> lostbits:  iirc
[10:31] <azertyuuu> yes
[10:32] <thoreauputic> azertyuuu: don't
[10:32] <thoreauputic> azertyuuu: never run gnome/ X as root
[10:32] <ProN00b> azertyuuu, don't listen to them, root is aweasome skillfull ^^
[10:32] <Cryptid> !Breezy
[10:32] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:32] <Tux> thoreauputic i mean xine
[10:32] <Tux> thoreauputic because its good, how do i set it default
[10:32] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: *cough8
[10:32] <azertyuuu> thoreauputic: thanx it worked in normal user
[10:33] <azertyuuu> ProN00b: he helped me in the right way
[10:33] <thoreauputic> Tux: right click a movie file, select properties, choose xine, close
[10:33] <thoreauputic> Tux: in the file manager
[10:33] <bluefrog-10> I set up apt-proxy on breezy. using synaptic works (I have installed one package). Now I'd like to import the existing /var/cache/apt/archives into my /data/apt-proxy. When I do apt-proxy-import -r -i /var/cache/apt/archives it keeps telling me "no suitable backend found. What am I missing pls?
[10:34] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  is it possible you can point me towards the keys?  i get an error on ubuntu.com official stuff.  i assume that there is only one key i need
[10:34] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: we don't encourage running as root here ;)
[10:34] <ProN00b> i know ^^
[10:34] <lostbits> jewel > how can i be sure of the block size?
[10:34] <jewel_> lostbits: You could also look at foremost (in universe)
[10:34] <jewel_> lostbits:  Doesn't matter
[10:34] <lostbits> foremost, let me look
[10:34] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: there's a command - apt-keys? Sorry I've never needed to do this so I don't know
[10:35] <crimsun> stevejesus: what are you getting error(s) on?
[10:35] <lostbits> cant find package foremost
[10:35] <Delvien> Mwahaha got limewire to work , yay !
[10:35] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  is it possible you can point me towards the keys?  i get an error on ubuntu.com official stuff.  i assume that there is only on key that i need
[10:35] <qsrv> I have a strange problem: I've installed the wpa_supplicant package and configured it. Now when I boot up, it connects to my access point, but if I boot after hibernating, it doesn't. Even restarting the daeomn doesn't help then.
[10:35] <qsrv> what could be the problem?
[10:35] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  sorry didnt mean to put all that again
[10:35] <iceman> #floo
[10:35] <ProN00b> Delvien, you are unleet unless you got it from cvs and modded it
[10:35] <iceman> #flood
[10:36] <crimsun> qsrv: you need to unload the module before you suspend, and/or you need to reload it after you resume
[10:36] <jewel_> lostbits:  It's in universe... there's some wiki page that says how to turn on universe
[10:36] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: off the top o my head, Iassume you can importkeys from the archive.ubuntu.com site
[10:36] <jewel_> !universe
[10:36] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[10:36] <jewel_> !repositories
[10:36] <crimsun> qsrv: I thought I said this a week or so ago...
[10:36] <wezzer> how do I block port 7302 from ubuntu?
[10:36] <zion115> can any1 tell me whats the command for looking up processes running?
[10:36] <azertyuuu> iceman: "slash"join #fleed
[10:36] <azertyuuu> iceman: "slash"join #flood
[10:36] <ProN00b> ps, zion115
[10:36] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  breezy-updates breezy-security breezy-updates
[10:36] <zion115> F A N X
[10:37] <delta> Hi.
[10:37] <emile> lostbits: if your deleted data is in ntfs format you could also look at ntfstools which has an undelete for ntfs (ntfsundelete)
[10:37] <Delvien> ProN00b only winblowz users use the work leet. crackpipe :P
[10:37] <jewel_> lostbits:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:37] <ProN00b> Delvien, i don't use windows...
[10:38] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  thats only a web directory
[10:38] <Delvien> well dont use the phrase "leet" then
[10:38] <lostbits> jewel > i believe it was the usual fat thing
[10:38] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: erm - look here for instance >> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/
[10:38] <ProN00b> Delvien, leet has nothing to do with oses
[10:38] <thoreauputic> there's a gpg file there
[10:38] <Delvien> Pron00b it has something to do with stupidity though.
[10:39] <ProN00b> not really, Delvien
[10:39] <Delvien> Pren00b yeah.. really. l8ter
[10:39] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/Release.gpg  << same for your other ones
[10:39] <boci^> hi
[10:39] <boci^> nmap is interesting
[10:39] <lostbits> jewel > got plenty or reps actually let me check better
[10:39] <boci^> Failed to determine the netmask of ! : No such device
[10:39] <qsrv> crimsun: it couldn't have been me, you said this to
[10:39] <qsrv> besides
[10:39] <boci^> nmap -v localhost
[10:39] <boci^> but I don't understand why...
[10:40] <qsrv> I've tried adding ipw2200 to the modules list in /etc/default/acpi-support
[10:40] <qsrv> and it didn't help
[10:40] <ProN00b> All 1663 scanned ports on localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1) are: closed
[10:40] <ProN00b> my system is teh win
[10:41] <crimsun> qsrv: no, unload it and reload it AFTER you resume. Manually.
[10:41] <thoreauputic> stevejesus:  man apt-key looks fairly straightforward
[10:41] <crimsun> qsrv: Does THAT work?
[10:41] <Tux> how can i set xine default ?
[10:41] <Tux> how can i set xine default ?
[10:41] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  i wonder why i could view the man page?  maybe i had typed it incorrectly.
[10:41] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  ill check my syntax
[10:41] <andi5> hi. i guess this is a faq type question, so easy exercise for you :) my fresh ubuntu likes crashing, i have a radeon card and suppose it is the frame buffer (never had problems without it). how do it disable that, do i still have some fancy at boot (;-)) and does anybody have similar experiences?
[10:42] <kevix> thoreauputic, I though you add the gpg key and apt-get update and all is well.
[10:42] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: I think I told you apt-keys - which was wrong
[10:42] <Cryptid> thoreauputic, i inserted Ubuntu 5.10 cd and added the cd using synaptic and clicked on mark all upgrade and clicked on apply is this all i need to do to upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[10:42] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  yep, thats what it was
[10:42] <thoreauputic> Tux: I told you how
[10:43] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  doesnt get much easier than that
[10:43] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: I would be using the "smart upgrade " option
[10:44] <iceman> how do you turn on the sessions manager ....
[10:44] <thoreauputic> oh he left, I was about  to give him the wiki page...
[10:45] <nalioth> thoreauputic: lot of "ask and run" goin on today
[10:45] <kevix> iceman, when you log into gnome, it does it automatically
[10:45] <thoreauputic> nalioth: heh - it's Sunday...
[10:45] <carambol> how i enable my mike?
[10:45] <iceman> kevix i log out, and get just text screen command line ..
[10:45] <kevix> iceman, in gnome, desktop->preferene->session
[10:46] <kevix> iceman, are you at a black console?
[10:46] <bluefrog-10> I set up apt-proxy on breezy. using synaptic works (I have installed one package). Now I'd like to import the existing /var/cache/apt/archives into my /data/apt-proxy. When I do apt-proxy-import -r -i /var/cache/apt/archives it keeps telling me "no suitable backend found. What am I missing pls?
[10:47] <carambol> thoreauputic, i am in breezy, how to enable my mike?
[10:47] <iceman> kevix i know how to cheat ... ill install kde .. after kde installs it runs the tool i need
[10:47] <carambol> iam using skype
[10:47] <hit3k> Can someone please help me with my ubuntu freezing problem
[10:47] <kevix> bluefrog-10, apt-proxy requires a 'backend' I guess.
[10:47] <kevix> iceman, what? just type 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[10:47] <thoreauputic> carambol: first step would be toopen the volume preferences and see if it's muted
[10:47] <iceman> i like having kde in there ...
[10:47] <bluefrog-10> apt-proxy works, just the import doen'st work
[10:48] <kevix> iceman, there is 'kubtuntu'
[10:48] <hit3k> whats xubuntu?
[10:48] <iceman> i know installing it now
[10:48] <carambol> thoreauputic, Pref > Sound
[10:48] <thoreauputic> hit3k: ubuntu with xfce4 desktop
[10:48] <crimsun> hit3k: Xfce running on Ubuntu
[10:48] <kevix> hit3k, Kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE instead of gnome.
[10:48] <Albaraha> !help
[10:48] <hit3k> fair enough.
[10:49] <hit3k> kevix, I know my friend uses it
[10:49] <thoreauputic> carambol: double click your volume control in gnome
[10:49] <iceman> starting a text file on commands to remember .;)
[10:49] <iceman> xubuntu is xfce4
[10:49] <thoreauputic> carambol: there's a symbol showing which channels are muted etc
[10:49] <carambol> ok
[10:49] <kevix> hit3k, ubuntu like gnome for its choice of best of breed apps. but of course, other folks thought different and made xubuntu and kubntu!
[10:50] <hit3k> kevix, they are fools
[10:50] <carambol> fixed, thoreauputic
[10:50] <kevix> hit3k, to whom do you refer?
[10:50] <carambol> tnx
[10:50] <iceman> i'm starting to learn gnome better .. just still like the configuration ability in kde better ...
[10:50] <thoreauputic> hit3k: erm, read the code of conduct please
[10:51] <thoreauputic> !coc
[10:51] <ubotu> hmm... coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[10:51] <glyn> how do I delete files from the terminal?
[10:51] <hit3k> k..
[10:51] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  this sucks so hard
[10:51] <raphink> glyn: rm
[10:51] <thoreauputic> hit3k: calling people fools for their desktop preferences is not acceptable
[10:51] <kevix> glyn, 'rm ' but remeber its more or less perenent. double check the command before you destroy!
[10:52] <hit3k> thoreauputic, wont happen again
[10:52] <thoreauputic> OK
[10:52] <zion115> any1 know of a movie player for linux that can play .avi's and .mov's?
[10:52] <iceman> theres a command for fps when you run glxgears ? but i cant remember it
[10:52] <prasys> zion115 : umm ..ubuntu wiki
[10:52] <raphink> agreed thoreauputic
[10:52] <prasys> there is a cute how-to-do guide there
[10:52] <bluefrog-10> glxgears -printfps
[10:52] <zion115> in synnaptic?
[10:52] <stevejesus> thats it.  i am setting my flipping computer on fire
[10:53] <raphink> zion115: it's not a matter of a movie player
[10:53] <Kinomees> :D
[10:53] <Noata> how can i make it so X doesn't start at boot time.
[10:53] <raphink> it's a matter of installing the codecs
[10:53] <zion115> ?
[10:53] <hit3k> stevejesus, Why?
[10:53] <iceman> that was it .. thanks
[10:53] <raphink> zion115: you have to install the codecs in order to play these movies
[10:53] <raphink> whatever player you use
[10:53] <bil> I need lots of help
[10:53] <zion115> oh ok
[10:53] <raphink> !codecs
[10:53] <ubotu> codecs is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:53] <zion115> FANX
[10:53] <dimm> crimsun: I've just tired
[10:53] <iceman> 10000 average .... for a 5500 nvidia .. that good i wonder ?
[10:53] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: won't it let you install ? Usually you just get a warning you can ignore with gpg mismatches
[10:54] <kevix> hit3k, as some folks may or maynot know: ubuntu is a bantu? word that means 'humanity towards others'. so folks try to keep the ubuntu spirit.
[10:54] <dimm> reloading the module does not help
[10:54] <raphink> :)
[10:54] <raphink> bil: about what?
[10:54] <hit3k> kevix, Yeah.
[10:54] <stevejesus> thoraeuputic:  no warning.  nothing.
[10:54] <iceman> there a way to find a good fps rate ...
[10:54] <dimm> *tried
[10:54] <stevejesus> thoraeuputic:  when i go to import a keys it hangs.
[10:54] <iceman> i get 10000+ average ...
[10:54] <kevix> iceman, so how does the iceman cometh?
[10:54] <hit3k> But my installation doesnt like my computer and keeps freezing for no reason
[10:54] <stevejesus> thoraeuputic:  when i go to import a key via a url in laughs at me
[10:54] <andi5> Noata: one way would be to rename a file in /etc/rcx.d/Syygdm to syygdm, but i would like to hear a better way too :)
[10:55] <crimsun> dimm: and what does dmesg|tail say?
[10:55] <iceman> kevix installing kubuntu-desktop ...
[10:55] <hit3k> So I'm not very loveable at the moment
[10:55] <stevejesus> thoraeuputic:  there is absolutely nothing wrong with my syntax
[10:55] <kevix> iceman, hehe!
[10:55] <crimsun> stevejesus: what syntax are you using?
[10:55] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: have you tried using a different /etc/apt/sources.list ? Like the one in the ubotu factoid?
[10:55] <iceman> kevix 24% slow process ...
[10:56] <Noata> if already at runlevel 2, how do i stop X from starting at boot
[10:56] <bil> oh sorry, nearly didnt see your reply
[10:56] <kevix> iceman, it you get a change, install trackballs (it is based on 'marble madness')
[10:56] <stevejesus> thoraeuputic:  factoid?
[10:56] <lostbits> anyone would know how to get useful infos from a dd raw file ?
[10:56] <bil> Firstly, first time linux and a fresh install on a new box. I can't seem to run the update manager, nor most of the system tools
[10:56] <kevix> Noata, runlevel 2,3,4,5 are the same.
[10:56] <thoreauputic> Noata:  quick and dirty way is   echo false | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[10:56] <ptlo> lostbits, what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:57] <iceman> kevix next i install wine .9 new version and then Diablo II ... has been great on linux ....
[10:57] <ptlo> lostbits, (or was that 'hdd raw file')
[10:57] <lostbits> ptlo > recover data from an accidentally formatted flash disk
[10:57] <rob_p> lostbits:  For text, I'd use strings and grep.
[10:57] <kevix> iceman, I guess I'm oldskool
[10:57] <raphink> bil you mean you can't launch synaptic?
[10:57] <hit3k> I cant believe I'm still running hoary hedgehog.
[10:57] <ptlo> lostbits, auch
[10:57] <iceman> kevix i like the multiplayers ... wish there were something close for linux
[10:58] <lostbits> ptlo > not my fault man, trying to fix a friend's fault :D
[10:58] <bil> in the system tray, it tell me I have 14 new updates and prompts for a password. i try to put in the root password and it won't accept it. i put in my user password and nothing hapens. i can't view, install or put in a password again until i reboot
[10:58] <dimm> crimsun: the logs seems fine
[10:58] <kevix> iceman, wesnoth ?
[10:58] <crimsun> dimm: "fine" being...?
[10:58] <Madpilot> bil: not the root pw - there is no such thing. use your own user pw
[10:58] <lostbits> ptlo > during windows xp installation he accidentally chose the flashdisk as target disk
[10:58] <raphink> bil: it's your normal passwd, not the root one
[10:58] <dimm> all it says is the car was detected
[10:58] <Madpilot> !tell bil about sudo
[10:58] <dimm> *card
[10:58] <crimsun> dimm: nothing about firmware error?
[10:58] <bil> read the rest, i did
[10:58] <bil> user users pw
[10:59] <thoreauputic> bil: it doesn't want your root password, it wants your user password
[10:59] <dimm> crimsun: nope
[10:59] <bil>  i put in my user password and nothing hapens. i can't view, install or put in a password again until i reboot
[10:59] <crimsun> dimm: on Breezy?
[10:59] <dimm> yes
[10:59] <ptlo> lostbits heh :D if you know what file system was on the flash disk (ext3 perhaps?), google for recovery tools for that filesystem....
[10:59] <thoreauputic> bil: is this your first user or a new one?
[10:59] <iceman> kevix interesting ...
[10:59] <kevix> bil, in Ubuntu, there is no 'root' password. there is only the user's password.
[10:59] <bil> first and only
[10:59] <crimsun> dimm: ipw2200 works fine here
[10:59] <lostbits> ptlo > :D thats what i have been up to the last few hours man :D
[10:59] <raphink> kevix: depends if you did a normal or a root install
[11:00] <crimsun> dimm: is ipw2200 sharing its irq?
[11:00] <lostbits> ptlo > i guess system is vfat
[11:00] <crimsun> well, technially the 2195 or whatever
[11:00] <kevix> raphink, I mean that most folks are told to 'sudo' this and that.
[11:00] <lostbits> ptlo > gpart is not useful
[11:00] <raphink> yes kevix
[11:00] <bil> Plenty of other things just don't run as well
[11:00] <bil> Login Screen Setup
[11:00] <bil> Users and Groups
[11:00] <kevix> raphink, you can just 'sudo xterm' and root away!
[11:00] <raphink> sure
[11:01] <dimm> crimsun: how should I see if it is sharing its irq?
[11:01] <raphink> bil: all these things require your passwd
[11:01] <iceman> kevix bookmarked that page ... more like warcraft though i looks like
[11:01] <crimsun> dimm: the contents of /proc/interrupts
[11:01] <ptlo> lostbits, isn't gpart just for partitioning? btw if it's dos/windows fs  (fat, ntfs) what you're dealing with, i believe you'd have better luck if you tyr to find utilities for dos or windows to try to repair it
[11:01] <dimm> it does not seem to be
[11:01] <bil> raphink: it seems that once i give it my passwd, nothing happens
[11:01] <iceman> you would think someone would have written a rpg like diablo for linux ?
[11:02] <dimm> crimsun: it is using the 21 alone
[11:02] <iceman> lots of fps's "America's army ... Enemy Terratory ... " but few rpg's
[11:02] <bil> raphink: obviously i've managed to run other, non-sys type apps (like X Chat)
[11:02] <smi|e> hi
[11:02] <smi|e> can i install KDE On ubuntu
[11:03] <raphink> sureyou can smi|e
[11:03] <raphink> bil: do you know how to use a console?
[11:03] <smi|e> raphink: will gnome automatically be deleted then
[11:03] <deFrysk> smi|e, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:03] <raphink> nope
[11:03] <iceman> kevix i also made a special backup of my original xorg.conf file ... the original one ... ;)
[11:03] <raphink> smi|e: you can have as many DM/WM as you want
[11:03] <bil> raphink: yep, sure do
[11:03] <raphink> and switch between them
[11:03] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> smi|e, it's called kubuntu
[11:03] <smi|e> raphink: so how do i choose whether i want kde or gnome?
[11:03] <smi|e> is there a menu
[11:03] <smi|e> or...
[11:03] <raphink> smi|e: when you log in, you can choose your DM/WM
[11:03] <raphink> smi|e: /join #kubuntu
[11:04] <thoreauputic> smi|e: in the login screen, click sessions
[11:04] <orbishek> guys i'm new to linux ,i just wanna know how to access the files in  my windows partitions via linux
[11:04] <raphink> bil: open a console and type `sudo synaptic'
[11:04] <andi5> can anybody tell me how to disable the framebuffer?
[11:04] <smi|e> how long would it take on DSL too install kde
[11:04] <raphink> then enter your USER passwd
[11:04] <smi|e> ?
[11:04] <deFrysk> smi|e, you can install kdm and make it default, works better with kde
[11:04] <raphink> depends what speed you have on your DSL smi|e
[11:04] <smi|e> 1mb
[11:04] <bil> raphink: k, it wants my root or user pwd?
[11:04] <thoreauputic> smi|e: it will be in the region of 130MB
[11:04] <raphink> USER bil
[11:04] <smi|e> thoreauputic: so on dsl about one hour? or more
[11:04] <raphink> bil: forget you have a root passwd if you ever have one
[11:04] <raphink> you never need it
[11:05] <bil> okay dokey
[11:05] <kevix> iceman, that's the idea. always have a backup. I put some files on my website as backup. sometime I email files to me as a fast backup.
[11:05] <raphink> bil: did you make an expert install?
[11:05] <bil> well, i ran it, and i put in my pwd, and im back at the prompt
[11:05] <bil> yep
[11:05] <thoreauputic> smi|e: I have no idea - depends what download speeds you get I guess
[11:05] <raphink> ic
[11:05] <raphink> bil you need to setup sudo
[11:05] <raphink> in order to use it
[11:05] <raphink> that's your pb
[11:05] <smi|e> thoreauputic:  what was the command again
[11:05] <bil> okay dokay
[11:05] <smi|e> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:05] <smi|e> ?
[11:05] <deFrysk> yup
[11:05] <raphink> bil: type `su' to become root
[11:05] <thoreauputic> smi|e:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[11:06] <iceman> kevix ... got to get my lasar printer install in linux .. then i'll start printing howto's ... for study ..
[11:06] <raphink> and then : `nano /etc/sudoers'
[11:06] <bil> done
[11:06] <deFrysk> and sudo apt-get install kdm and set it as default
[11:06] <raphink> that will edit your sudo file
[11:06] <raphink> that must contain the following line in the end :
[11:06] <bil> yep, its open
[11:06] <raphink> # User privilege specification
[11:06] <raphink> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[11:06] <raphink> right?
[11:06] <thoreauputic> raphink: he should use the "visudo" command actually
[11:06] <iceman> kevix i have played and toyed with linux since about redhat 5.2 ... i actualy got redhat 5.2 installed and kde to run on it ...
[11:06] <raphink> thoreauputic: well it's the same, nevermind
[11:06] <orbishek> guys can anybody help
[11:07] <bil> raphink: it does
[11:07] <raphink> bil after this line
[11:07] <deFrysk> smi|e, also there is a #kubuntu channel for ubuntupeople who use kde
[11:07] <thoreauputic> raphink: it is, but visudo checks for errors
[11:07] <raphink> add a line with your name
[11:07] <kevix> iceman, yikes. It was a BIT harder back them!
[11:07] <raphink> ok thoreauputic then explain... I've never used visudo
[11:07] <raphink> bil: add a line with your user name and the same options
[11:07] <bil> okay
[11:07] <orbishek> does ubuntu run on amd sempron
[11:07] <raphink> so if your user name is bil for ex
[11:07] <raphink> you shall ad
[11:08] <thoreauputic> raphink: well, if you make a syntax error the visudo wrapper warns you
[11:08] <raphink> bil   ALL=(ALL) ALL
[11:08] <bil> okay
[11:08] <iceman> kevix then went to mandrake .. and have used suse .. mandrake ... redhat .. but for simplicity i like ubuntu ...
[11:08] <robotgeek> man sudo says u shud use visudo, so i will use visudo
[11:08] <crimsun> dimm: is this occuring with WEP, WPA, or an open net?
[11:08] <stevejesus> orbishek:  yes it does.  sempron is an x86 proc.
[11:08] <bil> done
[11:08] <kevix> raphink, which version have this 'root' install option? (I assume it doesnt have the 'sudo' thing as warty did?)
[11:08] <raphink> bil: then exit nano with ^X
[11:08] <orbishek> thnks  steve
[11:08] <bil> yep ive used pico before
[11:08] <thoreauputic> confusingly, visudo uses nano (the default editor)
[11:08] <orbishek> one more question
[11:08] <stevejesus> orbishek:  yw
[11:09] <raphink> kevix: breezy in expert mode :p
[11:09] <smi|e> is there ssl on this server?
[11:09] <smi|e> :?
[11:09] <iceman> kevix ... have wanted to make my own install ... based on "zipslack" on a dos based harddrive... with full kde support ...
[11:09] <kevix> raphink, ok. thanks.
[11:09] <deFrysk> orbishek, after install you can download linux-k7 , a kernel to match your proc
[11:09] <lostbits> ptlo > gpat fixes also ntfs and fat partitions, thats how i recoverd my hdd some time ago
[11:09] <kevix> iceman, I tried zipslack once!
[11:09] <deFrysk> orbishek, apt-get it even
[11:09] <raphink> bil: you're done?
[11:09] <smi|e> deFrysk: is there ssl on freenode?
[11:09] <orbishek> how do i access the files on my windows partition via linux
[11:09] <bil> raphink: yeah
[11:10] <kevix> orbishek, carefull!
[11:10] <raphink> bil: then you can launch synaptic from the menu
[11:10] <orbishek> what's apt-get and linux-k7
[11:10] <iceman> kevix zipslak alone sucks ... unless you can figure out how to install "x" ... and then KDE ...
[11:10] <raphink> and enter your USER passwd
[11:10] <raphink> should work now
[11:10] <smi|e> ubotu tell orbishek about apt-get
[11:10] <deFrysk> smi|e, I know nothing of ssl , never used/tried it
[11:10] <smi|e> deFrysk: ok
[11:10] <smi|e> bbl all
[11:10] <smi|e> tc
[11:10] <bil> raphink: cool, thanks
[11:10] <kevix> orbishek, msdos or vfat file systems are safe, but nfts are not.
[11:10] <smi|e> im off too do some work :/
[11:11] <bil> raphink: yeah, that's done it. thanks a million
[11:11] <Matti> Sorry for such a noob question. I'm thinking of downloading breezy badger from ubuntulinux.org, thet say that I should download using bittorrent if possible... Only problem is taht I can't find link to torrent file :)
[11:11] <iceman> kevix i know dos well ... why i want a linux install from a dos base ... and still have the "linux" stability ...
[11:11] <deFrysk> orbishek, linux-k7 is a kernel witch is konfigged for amd-xp sempron processors
[11:11] <kevix> iceman, it was novel at the time. and it was a bit easier to just 'unzip...' and go.
[11:12] <iceman> kevix i got to study up on networking between a "Linux system" and a windows System ...
[11:12] <kevix> iceman, ever since I saw knoppix.... I've been running Debian. and then some of the Debian folks made Ubuntu.
[11:12] <glyn> how do I "extract" a directory into another directory so I just move the files and not the folder too?
[11:12] <propagandhi> Matti: http://www.tuxwarez.com has a torrent
[11:12] <bil> bil: i haven't used irc before, does this even work?
[11:13] <rubik> hi
[11:13] <Matti> propagandhi, ok, thanks
[11:13] <bil> or is the red private messages?
[11:13] <ProN00b> tuxwarez, lol
[11:13] <propagandhi> bil: your using it now so it must work
[11:13] <ProN00b> whats that
[11:13] <rubik> i think my question is a lil bit nerd but.. i installed ubuntu and i dont know my root pwd ... there is a default one??
[11:13] <raphink> bil: you have to register on the network in order to post PMs
[11:13] <iceman> kevix I like Knoppix-cluster distro ... that is a great drop and go cluster platform idea ..
[11:13] <propagandhi> ProN00B: why dont u look and then you will know
[11:13] <bil> thanks, but i meant for the red text. is it just the username: ?
[11:13] <eroFrai> rubik, no password
[11:13] <thoreauputic> !tell rubik about root
[11:14] <lostbits> ptlo > ?irc
[11:14] <bil> or is it X-Chats fault?
[11:14] <Matti> bil, I think every line where your nick is mentioned becomes red
[11:14] <rubik> no pwd ?
[11:14] <glyn> how do I move the files in a directory into another directory so I just move the files and not the folder too?
[11:14] <robotgeek> iceman: rocks cluster is also nice, but it's based on redhat
[11:14] <raphink> bil:  the red text depends on your client and its settings
[11:14] <bil> ah!
[11:14] <rubik> !tell rubik about root
[11:14] <bil> it is matti, thanks!
[11:14] <raphink> most of the time, it's set to be red when your name is said
[11:14] <bil> cool, thanks all;
[11:14] <kevix> iceman, there are literally about 100 version of knoppix.... quantian,morphix,dynebolic...
[11:14] <rubik> thanks a lot =)
[11:14] <rubik> bb
[11:14] <Coweater> rubik: you can msg the bot
[11:14] <iceman> robotgeek have to look at it ... i got a copy of geowulf clust laying someplace ..
[11:14] <eroFrai> rubik, when u need root privilege, use sudo and your user password
[11:15] <rubik> okay thanks!!
[11:15] <glyn> how do I move the files in a directory into another directory so I just move the files and not the folder too?
[11:15] <iceman> kevix how UBUNTU took off like it has .. i am impressed ...
[11:15] <kevix> robotgeek, I recall cluster-knoppix.
[11:15] <ompaul> !tell rubik about msg the bot
[11:15] <glyn> or do I have to do it manually one by one?
[11:16] <kevix> iceman, it was one man's vision , a WHOLE lot of money and debian developers hard at work....
[11:16] <raphink> glyn: you never had to do anything manually one by one
[11:16] <propagandhi> ubuntu did what debian failed to do
[11:16] <iceman> kevix well 84% of kubuntu downloaded ... ;)
[11:16] <robotgeek> kevix: very well supported clusterinf linux. pretty nice. seen it in action. easy to install too
[11:16] <raphink> what exactly do you want to do glyn ?
[11:16] <glyn> raphink:How do I copy all the files in a directory to another directory, then?
[11:16] <ompaul> cd folder; cp * ~myhome/otherplace/.
[11:16] <kevix> propagandhi, that is very inaccurate!
[11:16] <eroFrai> glyn, cd into the source directory, use cp -R * destination_dir/
[11:16] <propagandhi> kevix: and how so
[11:17] <raphink> glyn: cp path/to/your/dir/* path/to/the/other/dir
[11:17] <deFrysk> glyn, use *.* for all files
[11:17] <iceman> kevix I have liked Linux's Crisp gui, and Displays ... those made me a long time follower ...
[11:17] <kevix> propagandhi, where would ubuntu be with out Debian?
[11:17] <propagandhi> thats not what i said
[11:17] <deFrysk> Or *
[11:17] <bil> Since I'm new to the linux and ubuntu thing, is the standard to download source files and compile them?
[11:17] <propagandhi> I said it did what debian failed to do, not that it would exist without debian
[11:17] <ompaul> propagandhi, kevix can you take that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:17] <kevix> propagandhi, and does Debian have a zillion dollars...
[11:18] <nalioth>      bil the standard is to use apt-get or a frontend of it
[11:18] <deFrysk> bil, standard is to get the binaries with apt-get
[11:18] <thoreauputic> bil: no, use the repos if possible - much easier
[11:18] <nalioth> bil: if you wish to d/l and compile, use gentoo linux
[11:18] <iceman> kevix  i miss loki software , there games installed so smooth ... click and go, why "linux" has not growen to a script based install i fail to understand ...
[11:18] <bil> okay. sorry, i should have remembered. it didn't run before but it will now :P
[11:18] <ph8> Hey all, I switched from Kde to gnome yesterday, finally got xine working instead of the totem (:s) and now I've installed amarok, I've just watched a movie with sound - no problems but now i want to listen to some music and I can't get any sound? Is it something simple?
[11:18] <IanDoh> can someone help me
[11:18] <nalioth> IanDoh: if you ask a question
[11:19] <deFrysk> ph8, set the engine of amarok to esd
[11:19] <IanDoh> well i installed your linux
[11:19] <IanDoh> it installed
[11:19] <IanDoh> then booted from GRUB
[11:19] <IanDoh> then i cant do anything
[11:19] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: did you mean set the engine to xine ?
[11:19] <IanDoh> the config says the CD isn't linux
[11:19] <kevix> iceman, well the current version of debian-install (used in Ubuntu) as something called pre-seeding so that you can choose what to install and then go.
[11:20] <nalioth> IanDoh: you installed and then the machine restarted?
[11:20] <ph8> no effect deFrysk, but now i can't even get sound on the movie i just played so maybe it was the amarok install that's cocked something up?
[11:20] <IanDoh> yes
[11:20] <IanDoh> then bash loaded
[11:20] <IanDoh> then i cant get anywhere from there
[11:20] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, yes that one to , I just saw the "amarok" word
[11:20] <iceman> kevix no .. like lokis games .. you could click the install icon and the game was installd ... simple ... "like winblows "
[11:20] <ph8> engine is xine also
[11:20] <ph8> nothing appears to be making sound now
[11:21] <kevix> iceman, well apt-get or synaptic are the closed i guess.
[11:21] <ompaul> IanDoh, bash loaded, as single user or what? did you have to log in?
[11:21] <IanDoh> yes
[11:21] <surface> someone help me
[11:21] <IanDoh> i logged in
[11:21] <iceman> kevix back in a few .. 99 % of kubuntu done
[11:21] <ph8> any other ideas?
[11:21] <surface> after i upgrade to new ubuntu
[11:21] <ph8> surface: We have you know what your problem is..
[11:21] <thoreauputic> !tell surface about ask
[11:21] <ompaul> IanDoh, is bash responsive?
[11:21] <robotgeek> surface: it would be more helpful to state ur problem
[11:21] <IanDoh> yes
[11:21] <IanDoh> startx dont work
[11:21] <surface> when login screen appear
[11:22] <surface> it complain that configuration error
[11:22] <kevix> IanDoh, did it ever work?
[11:22] <ompaul> kevix, he gond
[11:22] <surface> ask to u change the configuration file
[11:22] <deFrysk> ph8,  open gnome-volume-control and see if you need to open/unmute some channels
[11:22] <surface> i donno what file to change
[11:22] <kevix> ompaul, k
[11:22] <ompaul> kevix, he back :)
[11:22] <ph8> nope, looks good deFrysk
[11:22] <ompaul> IanDoh, what kind of video card have you got?
[11:22] <surface> i try to play around the login screen setting its not working
[11:23] <betims> how to set root passwd ?
[11:23] <IanDoh> Matrox G2000
[11:23] <ph8> betims: sudo passwd root
[11:23] <surface> my login theme its not working
[11:23] <azertyuuu> hey all, i installed crossover office , but what's the location to run this app
[11:23] <ph8> I might try a reboot guys, always seems to fix things in windows - you think?
[11:23] <robotgeek>   <keybind key="A-F10">
[11:23] <robotgeek>     <action name="togglefullscreen"/>
[11:23] <robotgeek>   </keybind>
[11:23] <surface> no matter what i choose the theme at login screen setup
[11:23] <iceman> ok.. link to the java howto ?
[11:23] <ompaul> IanDoh, try running this>> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<
[11:23] <betims> ph8: it asks me for a passwd ?
[11:23] <ph8> there was meant to be a sarcastic smiley there ;)
[11:23] <orbishek> i'm back ,anyway what was that linux 7k or something
[11:23] <kevix> ompaul, would it be good to have official ubuntu folks have a nick name convention? ompaul-ubuntu
[11:23] <robotgeek> sorry for the paste!
[11:23] <ph8> betims: that will be your password
[11:24] <ph8> type man sudo
[11:24] <ompaul> kevix, it would but hey I ain't one of them
[11:24] <surface> its appears the same error
[11:24] <ph8> sudo allows you to execute commands as the root user and you will only need to provide your password
[11:24] <RancidLM> does any one know the command line needed to get grub booting the ubuntu installer ?
[11:24] <ph8> in ubuntu it's preferred to su'ing to root for many things
[11:24] <kevix> ompaul, k
[11:24] <ompaul> kevix, :-)
[11:24] <bil> Synaptic is pretty sweet. Just thought I'd throw that out there :P
[11:24] <IanDoh> anyone know whats up with my problem then
[11:24] <thoreauputic> kevix: members can get an "ubuntu" cloak
[11:25] <ompaul> IanDoh, did you run the command I just gave you>
[11:25] <IanDoh> what command?
[11:25] <ompaul> IanDoh, try running this>> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<
[11:25] <Nei> is it normal that the fglrx driver in the package manager does not work?
[11:25] <Nei> I followed every guide I found on the net but I can't get it to work :((
[11:25] <IanDoh> nope
[11:25] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[11:25] <ubotu> doesn't work is probably something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[11:25] <surface> u guys know what conf file should i edit for login screen setting?
[11:25] <IanDoh> says Unreconized Command
[11:26] <Madpilot> Nei: did you follow the Ubuntu wiki's ATI page?
[11:26] <kevix> Nei, does it produce any error messages?
[11:26] <deFrysk> ph8 test your sound on gstreamer-properties and see if its all set properly
[11:26] <ompaul> IanDoh, then I guess your install is not complete have you removed the CD?
[11:26] <IanDoh> no
[11:26] <IanDoh> the config says its not a linux Cd
[11:27] <kevix> surface, you can go to the gdm login screen and edit stuff there.
[11:27] <ubuntu> hw to install yahoo messenger in ubuntu
[11:27] <irvin> where can i find the logs of pppd?
[11:27] <IanDoh> THERE IS GAIM
[11:27] <IanDoh> TARD~
[11:27] <ompaul> IanDoh, that error I have seen once - and only once - what version is that CD?
[11:27] <irvin> i can't see it in /var/log
[11:27] <deFrysk> ubuntu, gain wors better an can do the yahoo protocol for you
[11:27] <kevix> ubuntu, sudo apt-get install gaim
[11:27] <deFrysk> works*
[11:27] <IanDoh> v 5.04
[11:27] <kevix> irvin, all logs are in /var/log
[11:27] <deFrysk> geez all those typo's :s
[11:28] <ompaul> IanDoh, be better if you did 5.10 the new as of a couple of weeks ago
[11:28] <IanDoh> well im waiting for my cds then
[11:28] <irvin> all i can see is ppp-connect-errors
[11:28] <ompaul> IanDoh, the disk you have if I am correct is actually a hoary colony cd not the actual haory release
[11:29] <nkrz2> hi all I need an information: how can I run VLC player on ubuntu?
[11:29] <ompaul> IanDoh, I may not be
[11:29] <IanDoh> i dont know
[11:29] <kevix> irvin, that is one. there may be some in /var/log/messages.
[11:29] <IanDoh> i got it posted to me
[11:29] <Nei> Madpilot, I followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:29] <ompaul> IanDoh, how long ago?
[11:29] <ompaul> IanDoh, or by whom?
[11:29] <Nei> kevix, I get an error saying 'Operation not permitted' when I try to load the kernel module
[11:30] <ompaul> IanDoh, got broadband?
[11:30] <rubik> hi!
[11:30] <kevix> Nei, what command did you use?
[11:30] <Madpilot> Nei: including the part about changing the configs with X shut down? I had to do that to get my ATI 9600XT's 3d running in Breezy, but now it works flawlessly.
[11:30] <IanDoh> no
[11:30] <Nei> kevix, my Xorg.0.log says
[11:30] <Nei> (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
[11:30] <Nei> (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[11:30] <IanDoh> i got it posted by ur posting thing
[11:30] <IanDoh> i mean
[11:30] <bil> okay, i pulled a package (TightVNC) with Synaptic, how do i run/access it?
[11:30] <IanDoh> ubuntus thing
[11:31] <bil> its in my installed list
[11:31] <Nei> Madpilot, yes I have the fglrx driver in my xorg.conf and as you can see it also tries to load up
[11:31] <rubik> ive just installed new ubuntu now, and after realising the base sys doesnt come with gcc, i installed it cuz i need to ./configure sth, but it says my C compiler cannot create executables... can anybody help me plz thanks!
[11:31] <kevix> Nei, ok. you have a kernel/driver version error. how did you install the video driver?
[11:31] <nalioth> rubik: install "build-essential"
[11:31] <rubik> tttttttthanks!
[11:31] <thoreauputic> rubik: install the build-essential package
[11:31] <IanDoh> will i get v 5.10 in the post?
[11:31] <rubik> go try
[11:31] <deFrysk> rubik, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:31] <thoreauputic> heh
[11:32] <smi|e> Who owns ubotu?
[11:32] <Nei> kevix, I installed xorg-driver-fglrx and linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[11:32] <rubik> =****
[11:32] <thoreauputic> !who own you
[11:32] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, thoreauputic
[11:32] <nkrz2> hi all I need an information: how can I run VLC player on ubuntu?
[11:32] <ompaul> IanDoh, okay I was talking to Linux Format lin the last couple of weeks, they will have on the CD version of the magazine a copy of 5.10 due out 14th of Nov
[11:32] <thoreauputic> hmm
[11:32] <ompaul> oh
[11:32] <kevix> smi|e, its a bot.
[11:32] <deFrysk> nkrz2, sudo apt-get install vlc-gnome
[11:32] <surface> "configuration is not correct" error msg when i login
[11:32] <thoreauputic> smi|e:  it's cafuego's bot
[11:32] <surface> how to solve?
[11:32] <nkrz2> thanx
[11:33] <mifritscher> hi, what should I use: ubuntu + kde or kubuntu? I've already experience with debian
[11:33] <kevix> Nei, hmm. dont know that sutff. need a true ubuntuite.
[11:33] <robotgeek> mifritscher: you shud be fine with ubuntu
[11:33] <mifritscher> ok, thanks
[11:33] <lsuactiafner> ompaul : is linux format available in south-africa? why not dvd with amd64 5.10?
[11:33] <Madpilot> Nei: you've done the whole reconfiguration with X shut down?
[11:33] <thoreauputic> !info vlc
[11:33] <deFrysk> mifritscher, if you like kde I would download kubuntu
[11:33] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[11:33] <Nei> kevix, :( thanks for trying to help
[11:33] <kevix> Nei, are you sure the instruction where for YOUR version of ubuntu?
[11:33] <Nei> Madpilot, yes I've done that, stopped gdm and all
[11:34] <Nei> kevix, the wiki only has instructions for 5.04
[11:34] <thoreauputic> nkrz2: you need the universe repo - then just install vlc and it should be in your menu
[11:34] <ompaul> lsuactiafner, (a) I don't know (b) the dvd version is going to be something else
[11:34] <Nei> kevix, but all the packages are there so one would assume the packages should work, in 5.10
[11:34] <kevix> lsuactiafner, Ubuntu was born in south africa. go to the web site. you can order cd's for free.
[11:34] <hit3k> Its official ladies and gentlemen Its either my  hardware or my installation that doesnt like me
[11:35] <kevix> Nei, seems not?!
[11:35] <lsuactiafner> kevix : yeh but it takes around 3 months to reach me via ship from netherlands..
[11:35] <betim> I want to use SU instead of sudo, how to set a root paswd ?
[11:36] <Nei> kevix, possible, but that is still throwing a rather weak picture at ubuntu
[11:36] <Madpilot> kevix: those instructions worked for me in Breezy...
[11:36] <mjr> betim, sudo passwd root
[11:36] <kevix> lsuactiafner, there is suppose to be somekind of vending machine in SA. That's what the offical press says.
[11:36] <Nei> Madpilot, what kernel are you using?
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> betim : get a root terminal as root, then passwd
[11:36] <rubik> at the end of the ./configure i have the error Unable to find libncurses or libcurses, but i already installed the last version, anybody know what can happen? thanks
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> run passwd..
[11:36] <robotgeek> lsuactiafner: yeah, freedom cd's or somwthing like that
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> kevix : not one i know of
[11:36] <kevix> Madpilot, ok. thats for the update.
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> prolly in some major city only
[11:36] <robotgeek> rubik: what are you trying to install
[11:37] <rubik> kismet
[11:37] <bil> never mind, i figured it out
[11:37] <betim> lsuactiafner: I can't get root terminal
[11:37] <Madpilot> Nei: 2.6.12-9-k7
[11:37] <nalioth> rubik: any complaints when you are compiling are for the -dev pkgs
[11:37] <rubik> oh really ?
[11:37] <Revellion> rubik: indeed
[11:37] <nalioth> rubik: you are compiling, not using
[11:37] <rubik> then i have to install the -dev files of ncurses ?
[11:37] <nalioth> rubik: correct
[11:37] <lsuactiafner> betim : i dont know gnome menus but it should be there somewhere.. else just get a terminal and run sudo passwd maybe?
[11:37] <Nei> Madpilot, I'm using 386 maybe they only ship working packages with k7
[11:37] <rubik> oh kk
[11:37] <rubik> ill try
[11:37] <rubik> thanks!
[11:37] <thoreauputic> betim: if you must, you can set a root passwd - but   sudo -i  will do the same thing
[11:37] <lsuactiafner> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:38] <robotgeek> lsuactiafner: http://www.freedomtoaster.org/
[11:38] <nkrz2> must I download the universe repo or it's just included? if yes how can I activate it?
[11:38] <thoreauputic> betim:  sudo -i  gives you a root shell
[11:38] <kevix> robotgeek, you beat me to it!
[11:38] <Nei> I have another problem, when I try to set the COMPOSE KEY (Multi_key) in my Keyboard settings, Ubuntu goes havoc
[11:38] <betim> ok, I figured out :D
[11:38] <robotgeek> kevix: :)
[11:38] <lsuactiafner> i want to steal myself a freedomtoaster and blame the previous governemnt
[11:38] <Nei> would anyone have an idea how to fix that?
[11:38] <thoreauputic> !tell nkrz2 about repos
[11:38] <rubik> it worked well !! thanks guys =)******
[11:39] <rubik> sh4?
[11:39] <rubik> eres david ? xD
[11:39] <robotgeek> kevix: having been to the site before helps :)
[11:39] <dotrig> xmms sound dosent works have do sudo apt-get install xmms-*
[11:39] <sH4> rubik , Hi , why ?
[11:39] <robotgeek> dotrig: try changing the output plugin
[11:39] <Madpilot> Nei: no idea about kernel vs graphics... sorry. You might want to check out the Ubuntu forums, though
[11:39] <rubik> oh oops sorry i thought u were a friend
[11:39] <lsuactiafner> there IS one in my town
[11:40] <robotgeek> lsuactiafner: neat! go burn your own latest and greatest now :)
[11:40] <deFrysk> dotrig, make sure to set the uotput of xmms to esd in gnome and to arts in kde
[11:40] <WebLOCH> Hey guys
[11:40] <deFrysk> output*
[11:40] <kevix> lsuactiafner, its is in    * Bloemfontein Durban  Cape Town Diepkloof East London Grahamstown Johannesburg Knysna Namibia Pietermaritzburg  Port Elizabeth Port Shepstone Potchefstroom Pretoria Stellenbosch
[11:40] <lsuactiafner> robotgeek : already running it
[11:41] <betim> hmm, anybody uses compaq armada here?
[11:41] <WebLOCH> Does anyone know why its impossible to move any subset of the mozilla suite, without removing the whole damn thing ?
[11:41] <robotgeek> lsuactiafner: heh :)
[11:41] <highvoltage> WebLOCH: because it is one big thing
[11:41] <kevix> WebLOCH, that is why folks install mozilla-firefox and not the mozilla-suite
[11:41] <deFrysk> WebLOCH, very big thing
[11:41] <Nei> Madpilot, how would I go about switching the kernel? I'm a bit new in that biz
[11:41] <WebLOCH> highvoltage, well i know there are a lot of inter-used components and libraries, but i dont understand why I need firefox if I wanted to use epiphany
[11:41] <dotrig> no output there :(
[11:42] <deFrysk> WebLOCH, thats a gnome decision to use firefox and not mozilla
[11:42] <SoloSeKNoSeNada> Hello, i have 5.10 ubuntu And i can hear all sounds in same time. How can i do it ?
[11:42] <WildZeck> WebLOCH, dpkg -r --forcenodeps mozzilla-firefox ? somethinf like that
[11:42] <thoreauputic> WebLOCH: they both rely on the gecko engine
[11:42] <nalioth> WebLOCH: cuz it has the gecko engine in it
[11:42] <dooglus> does ubuntu support reiser4 partitions?
[11:42] <WebLOCH> deFrysk, ahh fair enough
[11:42] <SoloSeKNoSeNada> sorry .
[11:42] <robotgeek> dotrig: AFAIK, yes.
[11:42] <robotgeek> dotrig: sorry, tab completion error
[11:42] <dooglus> I've been able to "mkfs -t reiser4", but then how do I mount it?
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> least there is a toaster close by to steal
[11:43] <SoloSeKNoSeNada> Hello, i have 5.10 ubuntu And I can't hear all sounds in same time. How can i do it ? (i correct can to can't don't repeat more)
[11:43] <highvoltage> lsuactiafner: toaster?
[11:43] <WebLOCH> thoreauputic, nalioth I realise that and said pretty much that, the point is, Gecko engine is a shared component, that doesnt mean you should have to have one browser installed to use another, its the component that needs to be there
[11:43] <dotrig> Dosent see one output..
[11:43] <rubik> hello, do u know how can i change my framebuffer resolution to a higher one ??
[11:43] <kevix> highvoltage, freedom toaster.
[11:43] <thoreauputic> dooglus: you entered a bug about apt-cache failing, network issues etc, right ?
[11:43] <highvoltage> kevix: cool. you in .za?
[11:43] <azertyuuu> hey all , how can i play .wmv-files (with kafeinne)
[11:43] <lsuactiafner> not just any toaster
[11:43] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I raised hundreds of bugs :)
[11:43] <nalioth> WebLOCH: it's not just a ubuntu decision, i believe you need mozilla code to even compile epiphany from source
[11:44] <dooglus> thoreauputic: what about it?
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> a freedomtoaster..
[11:44] <kevix> kevix, not I. nyc!
[11:44] <bil> Okay, I have antoher question. How do I make Synaptic make my user owner or at least exec rights on install?
[11:44] <robotgeek> dooglus: man mount, this is what i have in my fstab /dev/hda10     /home/me/hdd2      reiserfs    rw,noauto,user             0       2
[11:44] <WebLOCH> azertyuuu, there was a codec pack... but thats dead now
[11:44] <dooglus> robotgeek: that's for reiser4?  or reiser3?
[11:44] <drummer87> azertyuuu, install w32codecs
[11:44] <deFrysk> w32codecs ?
[11:44] <WebLOCH> yeah
[11:44] <drummer87> it's still around somewhere, just not in the repos
[11:44] <WebLOCH> IT was removed, but marillats kept it
[11:44] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I think I found a partial clue/ solution - if you disable daily checking in synaptic, it seems the apt-cache thing stops breaking
[11:44] <WebLOCH> Now its not there either
[11:44] <deFrysk> azertyuuu, wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[11:44] <robotgeek> dooglus: i think it's for both, i am not sure what i have :)
[11:45] <deFrysk> azertyuuu, sudo dpkg -i that package
[11:45] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I confirmed your bug... hmm let me get the number
[11:45] <dooglus> thoreauputic: the problem seems to be that if your network connection is down or the repo is unavailable, apt-get will delete its cache of the repo contents instead of leaving it alone.
[11:45] <azertyuuu> deFrysk: thanx
[11:45] <azertyuuu> thanx all
[11:45] <thoreauputic> dooglus: right
[11:45] <kevix> thoreauputic, are you referrring to the face that if you do an apt-get update while not online, it delete your files?
[11:45] <dooglus> robotgeek: trying to mount it using 'reiserfs' type gives "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/home"
[11:45] <Madpilot> Nei: what actual chip are you running?
[11:45] <WebLOCH> is the default BitTorrent client actually any good?
[11:45] <thoreauputic> kevix: sort of - also attemting to do an apt-cache search
[11:46] <dotrig> how i open a port?.
[11:46] <deFrysk> WebLOCH, sure and its light
[11:46] <bil> Okay, I have antoher question. How do I make Synaptic make my user owner or at least exec rights on install?
[11:46] <WebLOCH> deFrysk, does it do DHT scraping ?
[11:46] <dooglus> WebLOCH: it does the job.  doesn't interface with Azureus' dht though
[11:46] <WebLOCH> ahh
[11:46] <WebLOCH> hmm
[11:46] <WebLOCH> what to do!
[11:46] <kevix> bil, sudo synaptic
[11:47] <bil> k
[11:47] <dooglus> WebLOCH: I use azureus.  it gobbles all my RAM and makes the system run like a dog but it's the only dht client I've found for linux
[11:47] <Nei> Madpilot, mobile xp 2000+
[11:47] <thoreauputic> dooglus: so by disabling the daily update in synaptic, users not always connected can work around the bug: but there should be some kind of check
[11:47] <deFrysk> WebLOCH, if you install sunjava as described in the wiki it should be no prob to download azureus, unpack it and use it
[11:47] <kevix> dooglus, reiserfs = version 3. reiserfs4 is version 4
[11:47] <ph8> dooglus: dht?
[11:47] <robotgeek> dooglus: try using reiser4
[11:47] <WebLOCH> deFrysk, yeah i will do
[11:47] <dooglus> kevix: right.  how do I mount a reiserfs4 partition?
[11:47] <dooglus> kevix: I see "mount: unknown filesystem type 'reiserfs4'"
[11:47] <bil> kevix, that's not a permanent solution though?
[11:47] <ph8> is there anything like akregator (news aggregator) for gnome?
[11:47] <WebLOCH> deFrysk, does the w32codecs pack come in a 64 bit edition?
[11:47] <ProN00b> is there any way to play shoutcast streams ? (or get a comparable streams archive like winamp ? (pron, simpsons... ^^))
[11:47] <robotgeek> dooglus: as the mount option as in mount -t reiser4
[11:47] <dooglus> or "mount: unknown filesystem type 'reiser4'"
[11:48] <deFrysk> WebLOCH, make sure to have plenty ram tho ;p
[11:48] <WebLOCH> deFrysk, ive got the beastly system, i was running it a few days ago
[11:48] <robotgeek> dooglus: google is your friend. i found this: http://forums.dreamincode.net/index.php?s=d1f0da3249fa52e0626112438da2fbe4&showtopic=10701&st=0&#entry113339
[11:48] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: sure - install streamtuner and you'll have access to shoutcast
[11:48] <kevix> dooglus, I dont think its part of ubutnu yet. if it is , its not stable.
[11:48] <deFrysk> WebLOCH, dunno about 64bit , sorry perhaps the wiki knows
[11:48] <ProN00b> thoreauputic, only its audio streams, not the video ones...
[11:48] <dooglus> WebLOCH: better is to install blackdown java - it works with azureus and it already packaged in the official repos
[11:48] <Madpilot> Nei: you can run the k7 kernel, then -
[11:49] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: ah, video I don't know...
[11:49] <WebLOCH> dooglus, yeah I have to anyway for Dev purposes
[11:49] <robotgeek> dooglus: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27673.html this too
[11:49] <glyn> where could I get help with a runtime error '13' mismatch?
[11:49] <Madpilot> Nei: I had a Linux-savvy friend switch this machine over to the k7 kernel, so I can't remember how we did it... sorry
[11:49] <glyn> what channel?
[11:50] <dooglus> robotgeek: so it needs a kernel rebuild to get reiser4 working?
[11:50] <robotgeek> Nei: i think you could just apt-get install it
[11:50] <robotgeek> dooglus: i dunno
[11:50] <kevix> robotgeek, so it confirms that ubuntu does not have reiser 4 yet.
[11:50] <dooglus> robotgeek: I've tried a few times but I just can't get the kernel to boot after I build it
[11:50] <deFrysk> Madpilot, sudo apt-get install linux-k7 ?
[11:50] <dooglus> maybe dapper has reiser4?
[11:51] <Madpilot> deFrysk: I know it's something like that, but I'm not at all sure of the details - and don't want to mess someone else's computer up ;)
[11:51] <kevix> dooglus, ubutu is based on debian 'sid'. I dont recall debian sid have reiser4 yet....
[11:51] <dooglus> kevix: ah, ok
[11:51] <deFrysk> Madpilot, i beleive its am meta package and covers the default kernel modules afaIk
[11:51] <dooglus> kevix: I was just thinking about playing with reiser4.  I'll give it a miss then :)
[11:52] <kevix> dooglus, I just checked. there is a patch 'kernel-patch-2.6-reiser4 - Kernel patches for Reiser4 FS' in debian sid.
[11:52] <deFrysk> reiser4 does not like grub too much afaIk
[11:52] <dooglus> my laptop doesn't like grub either.  it uses lilo
[11:52] <kevix> deFrysk, that could be a problem. what boot loader would support it.
[11:53] <deFrysk> with reiser4 in /boot make sure to use lilo indeed
[11:53] <bil> kevix I'm afraid that didn't help at all.
[11:54] <deFrysk> kevix, if you would have a seperate /boot with no reiser4 on it so I would be able to keep on using grub
[11:54] <kevix> bil, are you trying to install software with synaptic?
[11:54] <bil> kevix: yes I am
[11:54] <bil> Its making root owner
[11:54] <kevix> deFrysk, that would seem the best way.
[11:55] <kevix> bil, and when you type the comand , and then try to install software, there are no errors? does it work?
[11:55] <bil> there are some errors/warning, but ti still runs
[11:55] <bil> all the way to install
[11:56] <kevix> bil, well, yes. root install software. not user.
[11:56] <bil> the app is there, but i don't have exec permissions
[11:56] <kevix> bil, you are not root.
[11:56] <kevix> bil, are you familar with the concept of seperation of prividlege in Unix/debian/ubuntu?
[11:57] <bil> no, but i've used unix before, so i understand that much owner/group/usr privileges
[11:57] <bil> urg
[11:57] <bil> Right, you said unix, yes
[11:57] <atripathi> goodevening peeps
[11:57] <kevix> bil, so as user you can see the choices. but you must be root to install software.
[11:57] <IanDoh> ubuntu sucks
[11:58] <IanDoh> startx doesn't even work
[11:58] <robotgeek> IanDoh: why?
[11:58] <IanDoh> you fucking load of niggaz#
[11:58] <dooglus> some .wmv files have DRM protection on them.  is it possible to play those in ubuntu?
[11:58] <robotgeek> IanDoh: welcome to my ignore list
[11:58] <kevix> IanDoh, we are here to help. please play nice or folks wont help.
[11:58] <dooglus> IanDoh: what an extraordinary performance!
[11:58] <bil> I'm running synaptic from the menu. i don't know if it thinks i am root or user
[11:58] <thoreauputic> IanDoh: that's just unacceptable
[11:59] <bil> kevix^
[11:59] <crazzybugger> The dvd images available from ubuntu is installable ?
[11:59] <dooglus> bil: when you run synaptic, synaptic runs as root.
[11:59] <bil> okay
[11:59] <kevix> dooglus, I have played .wvm but not the DRM ones, IIRC?
[11:59] <atripathi> anyone using webmin with breezy?
[11:59] <bil> how to i set it up so that i will be able to run apps as user? can i config synap to do it automatically?
[11:59] <kevix> bil, does it ask for a password when you install software?
[11:59] <bil> no
[12:00] <WebLOCH> anyone here use a download manager with their browser?
[12:00] <dooglus> kevix: if I try playing the file in windows, it shows some web page and tells me to let it install spyware before I can watch the movie.  in linux it doesn't do anything.
[12:00] <robotgeek> !downloadmanager
[12:00] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, robotgeek
[12:00] <Madpilot> bil: synaptic works w/ sudo, but the apps it installs should run for your user...
[12:00] <robotgeek> !download_manager
[12:00] <ubotu> it has been said that download_manager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DownloadManager
[12:00] <atripathi> @web: yeah firefox
[12:00] <crazzybugger> anyone answer me?
[12:00] <kevix> dooglus, its windows, what else would you expect x-)
[12:00] <WebLOCH> atripathi, that doesnt really count :P
[12:00] <bil> madpilot: the app went into the /usr/bin, but i don't have exec permissions
[12:01] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: take a look at that fresh wiki entry :)
[12:01] <atripathi> really? I use it :)
[12:01] <kevix> bil, so it would seem that running synaptic from a menu is not the way to go.
[12:01] <WebLOCH> mmm tasty robotgeek
[12:01] <dooglus> kevix: I was wondering if I could run it in wine as a new user.  then after watching the movie I could remove the user, taking the spyware with it
[12:01] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: also take a look at d4x, with the flashgot extension
[12:01] <bil> kevix: what do you suggest?
[12:01] <kevix> bil, 99% of software install on debian or ubuntu goes into /usr/bin/
[12:01] <WebLOCH> robotgeek, im using epiphany atm, these all compatible?
[12:02] <bungle> your all to sexy
[12:02] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: o_o all firefox
[12:02] <bungle> I might sleep in here tonight fella's
[12:02] <kevix> dooglus, sounds dooable, but it may play in ubuntu fine?
[12:02] <kevix> bil, run it from the command line as 'sudo synaptic'
[12:02] <robotgeek> bungle: thanks for the visual
[12:02] <bil> kevix: i did that and got the same result
[12:03] <atripathi> hey anyone use Webmin ?
[12:03] <kevix> dooglus, could you point me to a DRM file, a short one, to see if I can play it.
[12:03] <WebLOCH> robotgeek, does that mean all firefox-a-likes, or just all for firefox
[12:03] <robotgeek> atripathi: used to use it
[12:03] <kevix> does anyone here user 'sudo synaptic' to install software?
[12:03] <atripathi> was working on hoary ... but now it doesnt
[12:03] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: all for firefox
[12:03] <fonsken> which package do i have to install for the manpage of c-functions like strcpy etc?
[12:03] <atripathi> breezy has some problem with it i think
[12:03] <bungle> robotgeek, was that sarcasim
[12:03] <glyn> anyone experienced with wine here I could talk to?
[12:04] <robotgeek> bungle: yeah
[12:04] <bungle> << not male
[12:04] <bungle> lmfao
[12:05] <thoreauputic> kevix: there's a trick to webmin -  /msg ubotu webmin to read about it
[12:05] <taucher> test
[12:05] <Victor_> hey
[12:05] <thoreauputic> kevix: whether you knew about it I don't know
[12:05] <deFrysk> taucher, /j #test to test
[12:05] <robotgeek> fonsken: try getting gcc-documentation
[12:05] <thoreauputic> taucher: no, we can't see you ;)
[12:05] <taucher> really
[12:05] <taucher> mhm
[12:06] <robotgeek> fonsken: sudo apt-get install gcc-doc
[12:06] <glyn> anyone experienced with wine here I could talk to?  you could be 1 of 700 people who actually helped me out
[12:06] <fonsken> thx, robotgeek
[12:07] <deFrysk> glyn, try #wine if you get no answers here :)
[12:07] <thoreauputic> actuallyI think #winehq IIRC
[12:07] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, correct thats the one :)
[12:07] <dooglus> you know the little red update thingy in the top right corner of the screen?  how often does it do the "apt-get update" thing?
[12:08] <deFrysk> dooglus, once a day a check I believe
[12:08] <dooglus> glyn: I've never had much luck with wine.  I've tried it quite a few times but it always seems to fail
[12:08] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I assume that's the synaptic setting that says "update daily" or something
[12:08] <bil> my user should be part of the group user? it was in its own group
[12:08] <kevix> fonsken, sudo apt-get install manpages-dev
[12:08] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I don't know - I never run synaptic, and the update manager thingy is a separate program isn't it?
[12:08] <thoreauputic> bil: normal on debian based distros
[12:09] <kevix> glyn, /join #winehq
[12:09] <bil> thankjs thoreauputic
[12:09] <thoreauputic> dooglus: dunno - but as I said earlier, that setting seems to disable the check/update here
[12:09] <dooglus> deFrysk: I ask because whenever I run dapper, the update manager never tells me there are updates waiting.  but when I check manually, there always are.
[12:09] <hit3k> Can I ask a logical yet stupid question
[12:09] <kevix> bil, debian/ubuntu is not like older unix.
[12:10] <deFrysk> dooglus, as I said it checks once a day
[12:10] <dooglus> deFrysk: could it be because with development versions there are no "updates" - all the updates come via the "main" source
[12:10] <bil> kevix: okay. is there some config file for synaptic that might be at fault?
[12:10] <deFrysk> dooglus, but if you apt-get update , it will report of course
[12:10] <kevix> bil, you could use 'visudoers' and give your self root like privs.
[12:11] <dooglus> deFrysk: any idea how that update is timed?  is it cron?  or anacron?  or something internal to the update manager?
[12:11] <robotgeek> fonsken: also apt-cache show manpages-dev has valuable information
[12:11] <bil> kevix: i think i already did. could that be the problem?
[12:11] <deFrysk> dooglus, dunno, never checed into is
[12:11] <kevix> bil, ok. 'sudo visudo' and look at the root line.
[12:11] <thoreauputic> dooglus: it appears to run with cron daily here
[12:11] <deFrysk> it*
[12:11] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I noticed the bug surfaced after cron daily (the deletion thing)
[12:11] <dooglus> thoreauputic: the problem with cron is that I might not be booted into dapper at the time the crontab is scheduled to run.  then I'd miss the update
[12:11] <kevix> bil, well dont know. ubuntu did change some things with privs. have to ask a developer for details.
[12:12] <bil> kevix: yes, and my username is under it with exact same line
[12:12] <hit3k> Yay irssi
[12:12] <deFrysk> dooglus, it also works properly in dapper , on my box that is
[12:12] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I think the 'cron daily' jobs are really run by anacron, not cron
[12:12] <bil> kevix: that was so i could run stuff like synaptic
[12:12] <thoreauputic> dooglus: right I see - but evidently anacron runs it as soon as you boot anyway
[12:12] <hit3k> kevix: Could you help me please
[12:12] <robotgeek> i prefer cron, it's pretty striaghtforward
[12:12] <thoreauputic> dooglus: ah, you just said the same thing :)
[12:12] <thoreauputic> sorry
[12:12] <kevix> bil, the ubuntu was is to 'sudo COMMAND'.
[12:12] <dwerf> how would i make vlc my default movie player?
[12:12] <kevix> hit3k, whats up. I missed it.
[12:13] <robotgeek> dwerf: system-> prefs -> default applications
[12:13] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I believe anacron runs the daily jobs at 7:30 each morning, or just after the first time you switch runlevels in a day, which ever comes first
[12:13] <Darknight77> hello
[12:13] <bil> kevix: okay, lemme remove the package, and then sudo and install it from scratch (is only small, shouldn't take long)
[12:13] <dwerf> robotgeek > no players listed there, only browser and e-mail client
[12:13] <thoreauputic> dooglus: yes, at about 7:35 here
[12:13] <hit3k> kevix: every time i try to open more than 3 programs at once Ubuntu freezes
[12:13] <hit3k> and i cant figure out why
[12:13] <Darknight77> anyone here has install of wine 0.9?
[12:14] <robotgeek> dwerf: oh well, i think it's time to sleep
[12:14] <kevix> hit3k, did this always happen? it no, when did it change.
[12:14] <dwerf> robotgeek > that's funny, i jus got up
[12:14] <kevix> Darknight77, it is better to ask in #winehq
[12:14] <dwerf> robotgeek > sleep well
[12:14] <hit3k> kevix: It only started happening a few months ago when i reinstalled it onto a 40Gb hard drive
[12:14] <robotgeek> dwerf: i think i've had too many beers!
[12:14] <Darknight77> kevix, thx
[12:14] <thoreauputic> dwerf: right click a movie file, go to preferences, select or add vlc, check it, close
[12:14] <kevix> hit3k, how old is the computer?
[12:15] <ph8> quit
[12:15] <thoreauputic> dwerf: if it's set there it will be defult for your user
[12:15] <ph8> oops :p
[12:15] <hit3k> uhh about 2 or 3
[12:15] <dwerf> thoreauputic > i've tried that, but nautilus gives me an error then
[12:15] <kevix> hit3k, did you move it recently or install anything?
[12:15] <thoreauputic> dwerf: what error ?
[12:15] <hit3k> uhh I installed windows on a seperate HDD.. thats about it and amsn
[12:16] <kevix> hit3k, it could be heat, part not set right, or other HW. or memory. there is somethign called memtest or valgrind to test for bad mem.
[12:16] <emile> hit3k: i'm having the same problems (computer freezes from time to time) never had it with hoary
[12:16] <hyakuhei> !info gkrellm
[12:16] <ubotu> gkrellm: (multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client] ), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.2.7-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 388 kB, Installed size: 956 kB
[12:16] <hit3k> kevix: I ran mem test and no errors came up
[12:16] <glyn> hit3k>Hoary freezes a lot for me
[12:16] <dwerf> thoreauputic > "the application nautilus has quit unexpectedly"
[12:16] <robotgeek> hyakuhei: also check out conky, http://conky.sf.net
[12:16] <hit3k> Yeah I'm using hoary at the moment
[12:16] <kevix> hit3k, if you use win$ does it work ok there?
[12:17] <hit3k> kervix, It doesnt freeze in windows
[12:17] <dwerf> thoreauputic > it's weird, because it only seems to do this with mpg's
[12:17] <thoreauputic> dwerf: oh, nautilus is crashing when you select vlc? Odd
[12:17] <emile> kevix: is there some way to trace why hangups occur?
[12:17] <burepe> I am trying to set non-standard ports in bittorrent commnad line but I am not sure how to do it. The directions I am following say "To run it on a non-standard port I made an alias in .bashrc with this line in it:
[12:17] <burepe>  alias bt="btdownloadcurses.py --minport 12345 --maxport 12360"
[12:17] <burepe>  That way when I download a torrent I just need to do:
[12:17] <burepe>  $bt file.torrent
[12:17] <kevix> hit3k, then it may be the current version of ubuntu. it releases ever 6mo. and getting better.
[12:18] <hit3k> kevix: I'm using hoary..
[12:18] <hit3k> it didnt happen before i put it on this hard drive
[12:18] <thoreauputic> dwerf: have you tried, for instance, using totem-xine?
[12:18] <kevix> emile, yes, but if you eliminate the obvious easy ways, it get to the point that it may be a software issue.
[12:18] <dwerf> nope
[12:18] <kandoora_> what is the difference between synaptic package manager and update manager
[12:19] <dwerf> should i?
[12:19] <robotgeek> burepe: put that in your .bashrc
[12:19] <thoreauputic> dwerf: I suggest you install totem-xine
[12:19] <kevix> hit3k, did you transfer the install from one HD to the other, if so how?
[12:19] <emile> kevix: i ran memtest and some hdd checker, no problems found, temparature is fine either
[12:19] <dwerf> will do
[12:19] <thoreauputic> dwerf: works well here
[12:19] <hit3k> kevix: I didnt I used a CD
[12:19] <thoreauputic> dwerf: have you read the wiki page on Restricted Formats?
[12:19] <burepe> do I make a file or do i put it in a file? is .bashrc a file or a directory?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> !tell dwerf about restricted
[12:20] <kevix> emile, hit3k sometimes it could be good to use a more recent kernel, it possible?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> burepe: it's a file
[12:20] <burepe> where is it located?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> burepe: in your home dir
[12:20] <hit3k> kevix: I updated my kernel last time it was updated
[12:20] <dwerf> thoreauputic > yes i've read the docs, installed all, but keep getting the error
[12:20] <kevix> hit3k, I mean you had a small HD and then added a 40GB. is the install on the small hd or did you reinstall to the 40gb
[12:20] <burepe> thoreauputic, thanks
[12:21] <emile> kevix: i'm running 2.6.12-9, breezy default
[12:21] <robotgeek> burepe: alias btdownload='python /home/me/progs/BitTorrent-4.1.3/btdownloadcurses.py --forwarded_port 6991' in ~/.bashrc
[12:21] <ssam> kandoora_, update manager only does updates
[12:21] <freq> hello
[12:21] <thoreauputic> dwerf: install totem-xine nd try that
[12:21] <hit3k> kevix: I unplugged the smaller one and plugged in the 40 then installed it
[12:21] <freq> can someone help me
[12:21] <ssam> kandoora_, synaptic is more advanced and lets you uninstall or install stuff
[12:21] <robotgeek> !tell freq about ask
[12:21] <dwerf> thoreauputic > yes i understand, but it seems to be a nautilus error
[12:21] <kevix> emile, well then its beyond me.... you need someone up the food chain...
[12:21] <thoreauputic> dwerf: hmm - true
[12:22] <thoreauputic> dwerf: I'm using rox filer in fluxbox atm so I can't check easily
[12:22] <kevix> hit3k, emile if you run from a CD, does it happen?
[12:22] <kandoora_> ssam: so if i have some updates shown by update manager do i go ahead with it?
[12:22] <freq> my problem is this my keyboard is not work best
[12:22] <planetcall> why ubotu talks about rumour with webmin?
[12:22] <ssam> kandoora_, yes
[12:22] <Nei> Madpilot, wow, it works in the k7 version. shitty ubuntu :/
[12:22] <freq> my english is bad
[12:22] <robotgeek> emile: you might want to check your kernel log or /var/log/messages file
[12:22] <hit3k> kevix: It did once but after that it didnt
[12:22] <thoreauputic> planetcall: just a figure of speech :)
[12:23] <ompaul> Nei, language please
[12:23] <kgl> How do I install programs? I'm a total linux newb...I've downloaded Opera web browser, and unzipped it to control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz and debian-binary. Then I unpacked the .gz-files, but dont know what to do with the files?
[12:23] <robotgeek> freq: do u want to change keyboard layout
[12:23] <emile> robotgeek: yeah i did that, but after a freeze no inforr
[12:23] <ssam> kandoora_, its there to save you having to learn to use synaptic (not that synaptic is very hard to use)
[12:23] <freq> yes
[12:23] <thoreauputic> planetcall: the bot is programmed to use various phrases
[12:23] <Nei> ompaul, go to hell
[12:23] <planetcall> I am having problem with webmin over breezy. Are they having any problem together?
[12:23] <robotgeek> Nei: that was unwarrented
[12:23] <kevix> kandoora_, update, if you want to.
[12:23] <Nei> sorry
[12:23] <dwerf> thoreauputic > after installing xine, the errors are gone - it works, but i don't understand
[12:23] <hit3k> Meh I'll finish downloading breezy and install it
[12:23] <robotgeek> emile: does it only happen while running a certain prog
[12:23] <freq> robotgeek how i change that
[12:23] <ompaul> Nei, I am asking you to mind your language we would like it to be possible that kids can use this channel
[12:23] <planetcall> It actually is pointint to a workaround. I want to know if there is anything recent about webmin and ubuntu incompatibility
[12:23] <dwerf> thoreauputic > what does xine do?
[12:23] <ompaul> Nei, that was all
[12:23] <thoreauputic> dwerf: I don't either, frankly ;)
[12:23] <Nei> ompaul, you don't have kids do you :P
[12:23] <kevix> hit3k, as I told emile, that's all I can think of. need to get a ubuntu guru!
[12:24] <kgl> anybody?
[12:24] <WebLOCH> hmmm
[12:24] <robotgeek> freq: system -> preferences -> keyboard . then use the layout tab
[12:24] <planetcall> please msg ubotu webmin
[12:24] <kandoora_> ssam but the weird thing is that i know for a fact that inkscape's version is 0.42.2 where as there are no updates to my 0.42
[12:24] <odie5533> Is there a cvs server for ubuntu?
[12:24] <bil> what gets used instead of make around these parts?
[12:24] <dwerf> thoreauputic > what's rox filer, by the way?
[12:24] <hit3k> kevix: thanks anyway
[12:24] <thoreauputic> dwerf: xine uses it's own engine, and w32codecs etc
[12:24] <freq> i test
[12:24] <WebLOCH> dooglus, was it you that told me to grab blackdown so i could run azureus?
[12:24] <thoreauputic> !info rox-filer
[12:24] <ubotu> rox-filer: (A simple graphical file manager for X11), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:2.2.0-xfld.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 921 kB, Installed size: 2800 kB
[12:24] <zyga> what is .m4a?
[12:24] <kandoora_> would synaptic and update manager clash
[12:24] <zyga> and how to play this
[12:24] <emile> robotgeek: i'm trying to eleminate programs, first i thought it was java (azureus) but pc also freezes if i dont use that
[12:24] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: try rufus too, from http://rufus.sf.net
[12:24] <cas> hi, does anyone knows a method to show what kind of filesystem a partion has?
[12:25] <WebLOCH> robotgeek, well i was gonna ask where azureus is now.. it doesnt appear to be in repos
[12:25] <Nei> can someone tell me where I would report a bug about the keyboard settings in ubuntu's gnome?
[12:25] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: i like rufus..very small footprint
[12:25] <Coweater> cas: if you can mount it, then run mount without arguments it'll show
[12:25] <dwerf> thoreauputic > the !info didn't work
[12:25] <odie5533> WebLOCH, I got it from debian repos myself, works fine
[12:25] <zyga> Nei, bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[12:25] <hit3k> emile: what else do you run? it only happens when i run gAIM, mozilla or Xchat for me
[12:25] <robotgeek> emile: good luck with that
[12:25] <kgl> How do I install programs? I'm a total linux newb...I've downloaded Opera web browser, and unzipped it to control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz and debian-binary. Then I unpacked the .gz-files, but dont know what to do with the files?
[12:25] <WebLOCH> robotgeek, maybe but does it support DHT scraping ?
[12:25] <freq> robotkeeg my problem is this when i write a it put q
[12:25] <thoreauputic> dwerf: um - it did
[12:25] <robotgeek> Nei: check for previous bugs posted though.
[12:26] <thoreauputic> ubotu rox-filer: (A simple graphical file manager for X11), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:2.2.0-xfld.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 921 kB, Installed size: 2800 kB
[12:26] <ubotu> thoreauputic: what are you talking about?
[12:26] <thoreauputic> heh
[12:26] <freq> i am noob :d
[12:26] <kevix> kgl, we use apt-get and dpkg here. no need to unzip anything.
[12:26] <robotgeek> freq: install the program xkeycaps, and visually select your layout
[12:26] <kandoora_> thoreauputic, do synaptic and update clash, let's say if i use both would there be any problems
[12:26] <freq> ohoo
[12:26] <WebLOCH> odie5533, which repo exactly...?
[12:26] <cas> Coweater, I know, but it will mount ext3 as ext2 if I do that. It's not critical but there must be a simple program(option) to show it i guess
[12:26] <freq> how i install
[12:26] <thoreauputic> kandoora_: no, should work fine
[12:27] <freq> :D
[12:27] <odie5533> WebLOCH, http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/a/azureus/azureus_2.3.0.4-3_all.deb
[12:27] <hit3k> Whats the latest kernel?
[12:27] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: i am not sure. i click and download. check the website. it's really written around g3torrent or something like that
[12:27] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: or you could use azureus :)
[12:27] <odie5533> WebLOCH, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=7e636f01dfc22e2c618fd67251e2fe76&t=75272 <-- tutorial
[12:27] <kevix> hit3k, 2.6.13
[12:27] <freq> robtotgeek
[12:27] <Nei> robotgeek, would you have an idea what to search for? I'm kinda troubled as to how to describe this problem
[12:27] <WebLOCH> ill probs stick to azureus for now
[12:27] <WebLOCH> ty tho
[12:27] <hit3k> well The update says its download 2.6.10 :/
[12:27] <freq> *robotgeek
[12:27] <robotgeek> Nei: what's wrong with the keyboard settings
[12:28] <propagandhi> hit3k: unless you mean the linux kernel alone, which is currently 2.6.14
[12:28] <freq> robotgeek
[12:28] <robotgeek> freq: i'm here!
[12:28] <kevix> hit3k, there is the latest, and then there is the latest in YOUR versioin of ubuntu x-)
[12:28] <freq> how i install :d
[12:28] <hit3k> ohh
[12:28] <robotgeek> freq: sudo apt-get install xkeycaps
[12:28] <hit3k> well
[12:28] <freq> thx
[12:28] <hit3k> I should finish downloading breezy then
[12:28] <Nei> robotgeek, when I go to Compose key settings, and set the compose key to be on Menu, the themes turn off and on and off and on
[12:29] <emile> hit3k: mozilla, the others i dont use
[12:29] <kevix> hit3k, dont forget to order a few dozen to give your friends!
[12:29] <kandoora_> i've got NOT AUTHENTICATED updates, should i update or not, sorry for the caps
[12:29] <WebLOCH> odie5533, did you follow that guide EXACTLY ?
[12:29] <Nei> robotgeek, until after some time gnome(?) tells me that it will stop trying to restart the settings
[12:29] <odie5533> WebLOCH, I did indeed. Works perfectly
[12:29] <thoreauputic> kandoora_: if they are from official repos, sure
[12:29] <Nei> robotgeek, and at that point all my terminals are unusuable too
[12:30] <Nei> robotgeek, even restarting doesn't fix it, I have to disable the menu key is compose key setting first
[12:30] <robotgeek> Nei: check out system -> preferences -> keyboard -> layout options tab
[12:30] <freq> it sqys
[12:30] <hit3k> kevix: I'm gonna burn some and I ordered some of the internet
[12:30] <freq> *says
[12:30] <WebLOCH> odie5533, apt is telling me I cant install it b ecause I have a load of unmet depedancies
[12:30] <flogiston> What sounddriver gives the best sound?
[12:30] <WebLOCH> odie5533, when I try to get them it complains
[12:30] <robotgeek> Nei: under layout settings
[12:30] <KillerBOB> ASLA
[12:30] <freq> xkeycaps is found
[12:30] <robotgeek> flogiston: all u got is alsa :)
[12:30] <kevix> !info dashboard
[12:30] <WebLOCH> odie5533, could I have a copy of your sources.list ?
[12:30] <odie5533> try sudo apt-get check
[12:30] <freq> where i can download it
[12:30] <odie5533> sure one sec
[12:30] <flogiston> But i get distorted sound when playing dvds in vlc.
[12:30] <LokeDK> How do I choose gcc 3.4, since the kernel is not compiled with gcc 4.0
[12:31] <KillerBOB> is dma enables
[12:31] <hit3k> probably only because 30% of my friends know what linux is and I want to get my school to try it.
[12:31] <flogiston> I can't chose alsa there
[12:31] <freq> is not found sorry
[12:31] <kevix> !tell dashboard
[12:31] <Nei> robotgeek, the system/preferences/keyboard is what I'm talking about
[12:31] <robotgeek> freq: u need to enable repositories
[12:31] <freq> oo
[12:31] <freq> where
[12:31] <odie5533> WebLOCH, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3826
[12:31] <freq> i m noob
[12:31] <flogiston> I can't run alsaconf either.
[12:31] <robotgeek> Nei: then search for keyboard shortcuts
[12:31] <hit3k> Hmm I have alot more swap since the last install
[12:31] <robotgeek> !tell freq about repos
[12:31] <Nei> robotgeek, when I go to the third tab there and enable the compose key
[12:31] <propagandhi> LokeDK: as long as you have installed gcc-3.4 you can temporarily use 'export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4'
[12:32] <Nei> robotgeek, then that described phenomenon appears
[12:32] <Cryptid> is there additional repos that i can add to breezy????
[12:32] <LokeDK> propagandhi, I have - thanks
[12:32] <WebLOCH> odie5533, Sorry for the trouble, apparently it was due to a couple of broken packages
[12:32] <dwerf> what would be a good graphical adventure game for linux?
[12:32] <propagandhi> LokeDK: no probs
[12:32] <flogiston> The adventures of pp racer:P
[12:32] <thoreauputic> !tell Cryptid about repos
[12:32] <odie5533> WebLOCH, Is it working now though?
[12:32] <hit3k> Ah well next freeze I'm just gonna boot into windows
[12:33] <robotgeek> Nei: btw, which key is the menu key?
[12:33] <kevix> dwerf, falconseye !
[12:33] <kandoora_> does anyone use inkscape
[12:33] <hit3k> flogiston: PP Racer rocks :P
[12:33] <flogiston> Yes!
[12:33] <kevix> kandoora_, on ocassoion
[12:33] <WebLOCH> odie5533, sure is...
[12:33] <freq> thanx robotkeeg
[12:33] <freq> :d
[12:33] <dwerf> kevix - thanx
[12:33] <flogiston> no one knows who to run alsaconf? I have alsa-utils installed.
[12:33] <kandoora_> kevix, can u tell me the exact version with the build
[12:33] <WebLOCH> odie5533, do you always have to change permissions for the plugin directory before it actually works ?
[12:33] <highvoltage> how do i mount my reiser4 partition in breezy?
[12:34] <kevix> flogiston, 'sudo alsaconf'
[12:34] <thoreauputic> flogiston: alsaconf is deprecated and no longer installed
[12:34] <odie5533> WebLOCH, what plugin directory?
[12:34] <thoreauputic> kevix: it isn't installed :)
[12:34] <highvoltage> it created the partition without any problems, but mount -t reiser4 says unknown filesystem
[12:34] <kevix> thoreauputic, so what replaces it?
[12:34] <Nei> robotgeek, it is the key in the last row that is not the windows key (nor ctrl or alt)
[12:34] <thoreauputic> kevix: nothing as far as I know
[12:34] <flogiston> How do i setup alsa then?
[12:34] <robotgeek> Nei: in windows, it right clicks?
[12:34] <kevix> thoreauputic, what flogiston said!
[12:35] <Nei> robotgeek, and in ubuntu too by default
[12:35] <WebLOCH> odie5533, azureus has a plugin dir, it downloads its own updates to there, and keeps complaining unless I change permissions to allow for writing etc
[12:35] <alexbligh> Does anyone know of a ubuntu package that contains 2.6.14 or the best way to make one (incorporating all the ubuntu patches)? Alternatively, anyone succeeded in getting a 3-ware 9550SX to work by backporting the RAID driver to 2.6.12 (tried, and it seems unsuccessful).
[12:35] <robotgeek> Nei: ppc here, sorry!
[12:35] <kandoora_> kevix, can u tell me the exact version with the build
[12:35] <alexbligh> (AMD64)
[12:35] <Nei> robotgeek, but I guess you know now which one it is ;)
[12:35] <flogiston> Hm...
[12:35] <odie5533> WebLOCH, I personally didn't have to, but if it works and still complains you should be fine. Else, change the permissions if it doesn't work
[12:35] <WebLOCH> odie5533, haha it just segged :(
[12:35] <robotgeek> alexbligh: i am pretty sure that it is not available
[12:35] <robotgeek> Nei: yeah :)
[12:35] <kevix> kandoora_, 'sudo apt-cache show inkscape'
[12:35] <WebLOCH> brb all
[12:35] <burepe> thoreauputic, it took me a while the file was hidden, where do I put it in the .bashrc file?
[12:36] <kevix> !info inkscape
[12:36] <ubotu> inkscape: (vector-based drawing program), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.42-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 5794 kB, Installed size: 24168 kB
[12:36] <robotgeek> alexbligh: you might have to compile your own, with sources from kernel.org, or so
[12:36] <odie5533> Is there a CVS server for Ubuntu
[12:36] <alexbligh> robotgeek: it's not available on the ubuntu servers as a package, but I'm quite happy to make the package myself.
[12:36] <ryanmt> Can somebody look at this please http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3827 and tell me why my first monitor is only at 1240x1024 and my 2nd monitor now has really bad scan lines?? :(
[12:36] <kevix> kandoora_, it appears to be 0.42
[12:36] <alexbligh> robotgeek: Yes, I can do that, and pull the config from 2.6.12 ubuntu dist - that's no problem. The problem is knowing which of the dpatch patchesets to integrate into 2.6.14
[12:36] <thoreauputic> burepe: an alias? I put mine at the bottom
[12:36] <kandoora_> kevix, but the latest is 0.42.2 and i can't seem to update, i wonder why
[12:36] <kevix> robotgeek, there is the 'debian' way to do kernel builds!
[12:36] <thoreauputic> burepe: I don't think it matters much
[12:36] <robotgeek> kevix: i know, done it before
[12:37] <robotgeek> kevix: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html
[12:37] <kevix> kandoora_, what command did you use?
[12:37] <robotgeek> kevix: first link i used. referenced by the ubuntu wiki!
[12:37] <burepe> y
[12:37] <kandoora_> nothing, the update is not available in the update manager nor synaptic
[12:37] <kevix> robotgeek, been there many times!
[12:37] <robotgeek> kevix: :)
[12:38] <kandoora_> kevix, is there a command i need to use
[12:38] <ryanmt> Can somebody look at this please http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3827 its my xorg.conf and tell me why my first monitor is only at 1240x1024 and my 2nd monitor now has really bad scan lines?? :(
[12:38] <kevix> kandoora_, you did 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install inkscape' and what happened?
[12:38] <glyn> !pastebin
[12:38] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:38] <alexbligh> robotgeek/kevix: what is the best way to ascertain the correct list of dpatch's to apply to a more modern kernel when building a package? Some of them have aobviously been integrated into mainline.
[12:39] <freq> idont find it
[12:39] <freq> :d
[12:39] <freq> xkeycaps
[12:39] <robotgeek> alexbligh: no idea. i havent needed to compile my own kernel in a long long time!
[12:39] <kevix> alexbligh, if you use the 'newbiedoc' way it will be sufficient for 90% of folks. do you need something special?
[12:39] <robotgeek> freq: did you add the universe repository?
[12:39] <freq> i dont know :d
[12:40] <robotgeek> freq: did u read the link ubotu sent you
[12:40] <thoreauputic> !tell freq about repos
[12:40] <freq> yes
[12:40] <WebLOCH> anyone here using 64bit kernel with Azureus?
[12:40] <BeGu> with what command I can register my nick?
[12:40] <kevix> alexbligh, the idea is that doing it that way, it has been vetted by debian security. as opposed to new untested source.
[12:40] <thoreauputic> BeGu:  /msg nickserv register <password>
[12:40] <BeGu> thanks
[12:41] <alexbligh> kevix: I'm trying to get ubuntu installed on a machine where the root (and only) filing system is a 3ware 9550SX raid controller. 2.6.12 doesn't recognize this, the driver came in 2.6.14. What that means in pracgtice is rebuilding the install CD. I did that by backporting the driver into 2.6.12 (which sort of works) but it fails on boot (can't find /dev/rd0 - don't understand why it's looking for rd0 for h/w RAID).
[12:41] <thoreauputic> BeGu:  /msg nickserv help  for more info
[12:41] <WebLOCH> Anyone?
[12:42] <alexbligh> kevix: Also, whilst I can get my 2.6.12 kernel up with backported driver (using a stolen SATA drive), there are all sorts of errors about invalid LUNs and mkfs goes very very very slow, so I think my backport may have failed ...
[12:42] <BeGu> The nickname [begu]  is already registered :((
[12:42] <BeGu> damn
[12:42] <ompaul> WebLOCH, wait 15/20 mins and see if anyone is then looking at the screen that was not
[12:42] <robotgeek> alexbligh: you are going way over my head. i am a normal ide user :)
[12:42] <kevix> alexbligh, that sounds like non-newbie stuff. I'd suggest #debian or a (if it exists) #ubuntu-dev or look for a debian method to use with ubuntu.
[12:43] <ompaul> WebLOCH, and ask a more specific question like "Why does setup X do blah"
[12:43] <alexbligh> kevix: OK thanks. I thought it was getting into "non-trivial" :-)
[12:44] <ompaul> #ubuntu-devel but be careful it is not a support channel at all - so you will most likely be redirected to here - and maybe one of them follows you :-)
[12:44] <kevix> alexbligh, one of the unique benefits of free/open source is that you can email/chat/talk to THE folks doing it. Try to chat with bill gates or steve jobs!
[12:44] <kevix> ompaul, i dont think they would just kick him out. he is asking a legitimate question.
[12:45] <ompaul> kevix, they don't kick but he _may_ be advised to come here that is all
[12:46] <davidbro> Hi - I'm having trouble connecting to the repositories - I get timed out using synaptic or apt what should I check?
[12:46] <kevix> ompaul, from my experice so far, #ubuntu may have someone to help him, but 90% are not at that level.
[12:46] <WebLOCH> ompaul, I thought my question was specific enough
[12:46] <ompaul> kevix, concur
[12:46] <alexbligh> kevix: I'll try #ubuntu-devel
[12:46] <thoreauputic> kevix: probably more than 90% in fact
[12:47] <kevix> thoreauputic, I was being nice x-)
[12:47] <ompaul> WebLOCH, I would include details of whatever the failure was, that helps someone choose if they think they know what the answer is
[12:48] <dwerf> how the hell do i kill a process if it doesn't respond to 'kill'?
[12:48] <thoreauputic> kevix: very commendable ;-)
[12:48] <kevix> well its been fun! see ya in 20 hours!
[12:48] <bustacap> hey everyone..
[12:48] <ompaul> kevix, have fun
[12:48] <glyn> how do I check the version of something?
[12:48] <alexbligh> dwerf: kill - KILL
[12:48] <thoreauputic> dwerf: try sudo kill
[12:48] <dwerf> the process has the 'zombie' status
[12:48] <odie5533> Is there any CVS server/client in the ubuntu repos?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> dwerf: or alexbligh 's suggestion ;)
[12:49] <alexbligh> dwerf: you can't kill it, it's just waiting for its parent to die or acknowledge it's death - it's doing no harm
[12:49] <bustacap> just a general question, *off topic*, what is a good blogging provider on the net..
[12:49] <thoreauputic> dwerf: you can't kill zombies
[12:49] <ompaul> zombies only go away when the machine is rebooted they have no impact other than to own a process id
[12:49] <dwerf> :-)
[12:49] <thoreauputic> dwerf: they are alredy dead ;)
[12:49] <robotgeek> bustacap: wordpress
[12:49] <bustacap> yeah..
[12:49] <bustacap> thanks..
[12:49] <bustacap> what's good about it..
[12:50] <thoreauputic> dwerf: zombies are mostly harmless though
[12:50] <dwerf> well, this dead process takes up my whole screen
[12:50] <robotgeek> bustacap: can u come in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:50] <ompaul> thoreauputic, you have not been watching the movies I have :)
[12:50] <thoreauputic> ompaul: hahah
[12:50] <thoreauputic> :D
[12:50] <thoreauputic> dwerf: what process is this?
[12:50] <joost> hello :) I got a startup problem, can anybody help me? At first i couldnt install 5.10 cuz of my laptop cddrive not reading burned cd's, so i installed 5.04, and upgraded that. Now when i boot it either fails loaden (IRQ problem) but if i choose the right kernell (?? i think) in the grub menu it does boot properly, how do i make that kernell default to boot?
[12:51] <luis_> hellow
[12:52] <anderss> edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:52] <joost> thanks, gonna try
[12:52] <freq> robotkeeq what is the command
[12:53] <ompaul> hit3k, please turn that message off NOW
[12:53] <hit3k> sorry
[12:53] <freq> now i installed the programm
[12:53] <davidbro> I had to disable ipv6 in order to get a reliable connection to the internet - now firefox works but not evolution or synaptic - both get timed out.
[12:53] <El_Che> joost: put the kerel block as the first on the list in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:53] <Revellion> noisy auto-away's :S
[12:53] <hit3k> i forgot about it
[12:54] <ompaul> hit3k, :)
[12:54] <odie5533> Is there any cvs for ubuntu?
[12:54] <robotgeek> joost: we heard u the first time around
[12:54] <robotgeek> 
[12:54] <thoreauputic> hit3k: I suggest yo disable it permannently - those messages are a pain
[12:54] <joost> hmm robotgeek, i only asked once :P
[12:54] <freq> robotkeeq what is the command
[12:54] <robotgeek> joost: sorry, i had hit page up by mistake and the u asked twice
[12:55] <joost> hehe :)
[12:55] <hit3k> thoreauputic, I did after ompaul set off my highlights
[12:55] <joost> good for you ;)
[12:55] <thoreauputic> hit3k: :)
[12:55] <freq> how i now configure settings
[12:55] <robotgeek> freq: u done adding universe repositories?
[12:55] <anderss> you figured it out joost?
[12:55] <freq> yes you say it first
[12:55] <joost> i've done vim /boot/blaaaa
[12:55] <joost> and saw the part to change
[12:56] <joost> but, vim , im a n00b ;)
[12:56] <freq> but i dont remember it
[12:56] <anderss> use nano
[12:56] <robotgeek> freq: xkeycaps
[12:56] <joost> gonna gedit
[12:56] <anderss> nano is way easier on us humans than vim
[12:56] <freq> now how i write it
[12:57] <freq> md
[12:57] <joost> okay, i've edited it... gonna reboot to try, thanks all!
[12:57] <robotgeek> freq: what keyboard layout do you want to use?
[12:58] <anderss> no problem
[12:58] <El_Che> joost: gedit is fine!
[12:58] <robotgeek> joost: sorry again!
[12:58] <freq> finnish
[12:59] <freq> but what is the command in the console
[12:59] <robotgeek> freq: do u have finnish set in system -> preferences -> keyboard?
[12:59] <freq> i dond remember
[12:59] <freq> yes
[12:59] <freq> but is not work
[12:59] <robotgeek> freq: the command is xkeycaps. sudo apt-get install xkeycaps.
[01:00] <robotgeek> freq: though, the layout options from system -> preferences -> keyboard is very nice
[01:01] <joost> thanks it worked booting into the right kernell! :)
[01:03] <Seveas> gooooooooooooooooooooooooood(morning|afternoon|evening|night) #ubuntu
[01:04] <highvoltage> hi Seveas
[01:04] <Hobbsee> evening Seveas :)
[01:04] <robotgeek> hi Seveas
[01:04] <alain__> u too Seveas
[01:04] <joost> evening? lol
[01:05] <alain__> 13H 04
[01:05] <Seveas> joost, he's in australia, not here in Holland ;)
[01:05] <joost> ok :)
[01:05] <alain__> just give us your local time
[01:05] <Seveas> 'middag watnou
[01:05] <Hobbsee> joost: yes, evening
[01:05] <Hobbsee> 11.05 pm sun night
[01:06] <watnou> hello seveas :)
[01:06] <joost> 1pm sunnyday :)
[01:06] <watnou> just got up
[01:06] <Hobbsee> Seveas: he?
[01:06] <RevPeter> 1:06pm Sunnshine
[01:06] <eSPete> why does symlink not work in pure-ftpd?
[01:07] <Seveas> eSPete, you need to enable that in the config
[01:07] <robotgeek> 6:05 am here, 6 beers down!
[01:07] <RevPeter> +48xxxxxxxxx
[01:07] <Seveas> RevPeter, ?
[01:07] <eSPete> Seveas, how? in what file?
[01:07] <RevPeter> :)
[01:07] <joost> hey robotgeek, drunk with 6 beers? ;)
[01:07] <Seveas> vsftpd.conf
[01:07] <Seveas> excusa
[01:07] <RevPeter> mobile-cellphone
[01:07] <Seveas> pure-ftpd.conf
[01:07] <Seveas> mattt, /exec date
[01:08] <Seveas> don't forget that daylight savings time ended this night
[01:08] <mattt> my system clock is wrong, and i got confused if the time change happened already
[01:08] <alain__> what time is it by ypur watch youngcoder  ?
[01:08] <eSPete> Seveas, i dont have that file...
[01:08] <mattt> Seveas, yeah :)
[01:08] <robotgeek> joost: that's 6 beers sitting at this terminal, i had a few before :)
[01:08] <Seveas> mattpj1, where on this planet are you?
[01:08] <joost> heheh ok :)
[01:08] <Seveas> mattt*
[01:08] <joost> i think it's a nice to to act dutch O-)
[01:09] <robotgeek> mattt: run tzconfig and then sudo ntpdate time.ubuntulinux.org  :)
[01:09] <Seveas> 12:09 in london now
[01:09] <mattt> Seveas, thanks!
[01:09] <mattt> robot:  doing that now :P
[01:10] <Seveas> (gdesklets worldclock is quite useful
[01:10] <Seveas> )
[01:10] <Seveas> let's see if I can package up the beast
[01:12] <mattt> anyone use jabber.org as a jabber server?
[01:14] <eSPete> where is pure-ftpd.conf suppose to be, and what do i need to put in it to enabel symlink?
[01:14] <IamJacksUsername> 5.04, xine: "The stream 'dvd:/' use an unsupported codec: Audio Codec: MPEG layer 2/3 (0x0)". Video plays, no sound. ubuntu.com/search and Google has nothing.
[01:15] <wickedpuppy> usually conf are in /etc ...
[01:15] <Seveas> IamJacksUsername, did you install an mp3 codec?
[01:15] <IamJacksUsername> I can play normal DVDs fine tho.
[01:15] <odie5533> Whats the best way to set up a dual boot win98 and Ubuntu Breezy?
[01:16] <kairu0> anyone recommend a financial program for ubuntu?
[01:16] <robotgeek> kairu0: gnucash
[01:16] <odie5533> kairu0, gnucash
[01:16] <kairu0> ok
[01:16] <kairu0> thnx
[01:16] <highvoltage> odie5533: install windows first, then ubuntu.
[01:16] <IamJacksUsername> Seveas: I installed win32codecs long ago, but I don't think mp3s play.
[01:16] <highvoltage> the ubuntu installer will do most of the work for you.
[01:16] <odie5533> anyway to do it the other way around?
[01:17] <cantona> any kernel 2.6.14 ubuntu package
[01:17] <highvoltage> it's more difficult, because windows doesn't understand the linux filesystems.
[01:17] <odie5533> more difficult or possible?
[01:17] <odie5533> I already have ubuntu installed =/
[01:17] <highvoltage> and it overwrites your mbr, which isn't difficult to fix, but it's way easier to do it win first, linux second.
[01:17] <IamJacksUsername> Seveas: I'm loading a page called "RestrictedFormats" now, answer in there?
[01:17] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, its impossible unless billy boy says so
[01:17] <highvoltage> do you have a spare partition / disk for windows?
[01:17] <odie5533> who is billy boy?
[01:18] <odie5533> highvoltage, no =/
[01:18] <wickedpuppy> bill "geek" gate
[01:18] <odie5533> I thought his last name had an s
[01:18] <wickedpuppy> oh yah
[01:18] <wickedpuppy> lots of gates
[01:18] <wickedpuppy> one isn't enough ... window also ends with s
[01:19] <odie5533> Lini
[01:19] <topyli> IamJacksUsername: mp3 support is not in w32codecs but in gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:19] <odie5533> multiple Linux, Lini?
[01:19] <mon> i've got eh this: 17253 pts/0    Z      0:15 [java]  <defunct>
[01:19] <thoreauputic> odie5533:  Linices
[01:19] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:19] <mon> what options do i have apart from rebooting?
[01:19] <topyli> odie5533: linuxen
[01:19] <thoreauputic> heh
[01:20] <odie5533> Is there a plural of Linux?
[01:20] <dooglus> Linux is an adjective isn't it?
[01:20] <thoreauputic> unix - unices:  linux - linices
[01:20] <odie5533> well its not really a word to begin with so I suppose not
[01:20] <topyli> odie5533: unixen, linuxen, emacsen, boxen :)
[01:20] <dooglus> a linux distribution, or a linux kernel.
[01:20] <anderss> Anybody tried Mezzo in ubuntu?
[01:20] <IamJacksUsername> topyli: thanks.
[01:20] <thoreauputic> dooglus: but linux is a noun applied to the kernel
[01:20] <thoreauputic> "Linux" = the kernel
[01:21] <odie5533> hah it is linuxen
[01:21] <odie5533> he plural of "Linux" is "Linuxen". Similarly, the plural of "box" when referring to a tower system is "boxen". On the other hand, the plural of "unix" is "unices".
[01:21] <robotgeek> nite ppl, cya tommorow
[01:22] <topyli> in debian, emacs packages such as emacs21 or xemacs depend on emacsen-common
[01:22] <odie5533> Is there any CVS server and client in the repos?
[01:22] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, of course ... search for cvs .. also svn
[01:23] <odie5533> too many
[01:23] <odie5533> is there any good one?
[01:23] <wickedpuppy> svn
[01:23] <glyn> when I try to uninstall something, it says make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[01:23] <odie5533> svn is subversion repository
[01:24] <glyn> can anyone help please?
[01:24] <ProN00b> ok, i finally have to ask this
[01:24] <odie5533> is there a plain cvs server/client
[01:24] <mifritscher> glyn, try clean
[01:24] <wickedpuppy> bingo ... svn is better than cvs ... :P
[01:24] <socketbind> way better :)
[01:24] <ProN00b> whats the key combination to copy and paste from and to console ?
[01:24] <glyn> make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
[01:24] <socketbind> Ctrl+Ins and Shif+Ins I believe
[01:25] <mifritscher> but it doesn't uninstall anything, it yust removes the Obejkt files and binarys
[01:25] <mifritscher> where do you try it?
[01:25] <glyn> ~/.wine
[01:25] <bil> I have two questions. 1) How do I find my ip address in linux for tightvnc connections and 2) How do I see what processes are running from the desktop (can I?)
[01:26] <mifritscher> hmm, then make is complete useless...
[01:26] <thoreauputic> bil:  ifconfig , and use the system monitor  or run top ina terminal
[01:26] <glyn> mifritscher>why is that?
[01:26] <bobbyd__> hi
[01:27] <mifritscher> make is a utlity that helps compiling
[01:27] <petros> hello
[01:27] <bil> thanks thor
[01:27] <petros> is there a way to change the default ubuntu bootsplash screen?
[01:28] <bobbyd__> I have an nfs file system moutned with "nfs auto,rw,exec,user 0 0". When I tey to execute programs from it it says permission denied even though the remote user owns the files. Any ideas why this may be happening?
[01:28] <joost> im trying to add a samba user, so i can talk to my windows machine... i've added the user in system>admin>users&groups .. but when i try to add it in samba (??) "sudo smbpasswd -a windows" i type the pass twice, but than it sais the user doesnt excist?
[01:28] <wickedpuppy> joost, samba uses it own user accounts ... just like sql
[01:28] <mon> bobbyd__: executing is disabled be default on some types of mounts, like NFS, iirc. there's a mount option to enable it again
[01:29] <joost> ohhh, and how do i add a user than?
[01:29] <bobbyd__> mon: yes, I think it's exec, whixh I showed above that I have...
[01:29] <joost> sorry, im a n00b :)
[01:29] <mon> bobbyd__: oh sorry, didn't see it :)
[01:29] <wickedpuppy> hmms .. i am not using samba .. samba.org ?
[01:29] <bobbyd__> Mon: no problem, I'm just confused
[01:30] <joost> ok, gonna check that... im trying to do it as written on ubuntuguide.org but that failed, gonna see the site, thanks
[01:30] <glyn> how do I uninstall wine easily?
[01:31] <wickedpuppy> glyn, synaptic
[01:32] <gouchi> Hi
[01:32] <pavka> hi all
[01:32] <wickedpuppy> bon jour gouchi
[01:32] <watnou> hi
[01:33] <salutis> hello all, i have 2 questions: 1) how i clean up only small group icons on desktop (not all)? 2) how i disable fading effect on logout?
[01:33] <gouchi> do you where information of hardware database has recorded ?
[01:33] <wickedpuppy> gouchi, System -> Administration -> Device manager ?
[01:33] <gouchi> nope
[01:34] <infested_maggot> can someone pls help me with a java jre install pls.
[01:34] <gouchi> information from hwdb-gui
[01:34] <infested_maggot> hello wickedpuppy
[01:34] <mon> salutis: clean? you mean deletE?
[01:34] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, you are still here with that question!
[01:34] <wickedpuppy> holy cow
[01:34] <eSPete> how do i make symlink wokr in pure-ftpd?
[01:34] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: yeah. last night i was going to sleep. now i`m back with fresh powers :D
[01:34] <salutis> mon, no - only line-up in grid (as clean-up in desktop context menu)
[01:35] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, its night here .. lol
[01:35] <mon> salutis: tried right mouse button?
[01:35] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: here it`s like 2:34 PM
[01:35] <gouchi> wickedpuppy : hwdb.ubuntu.com
[01:35] <gouchi> ;-)
[01:35] <bobbyd__> Mon: got it, a bad option i nthe fstab...
[01:35] <wickedpuppy> gouchi, ah k thanks
[01:36] <infested_maggot> so, wickedpuppy , what the hell do i have to do to update my jre from 1.4.2 to 1.5. i think i`ve installed the 1.5 deb like 4 times by now.
[01:37] <pavka> can someone help me with debianizing? i need howto or example to debianize package with much more sources archives and much more final binary debian packages....
[01:37] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, why you need to upgrade ?
[01:37] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: because azureus won`t run with that version of java. or so i was told
[01:38] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, have you tried it yourself ? or you are repeating what you are told ?
[01:38] <thoreauputic> infested_maggot:  update-alternatives --config java
[01:38] <mattt> anyone in the UK want to donate 128 MB of 144-pin laptop ram to me?  (or anything > 128 would be acceptable as well)  :)
[01:39] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: the guys from azureus-user told me that.
[01:39] <wickedpuppy> eh ah
[01:39] <wickedpuppy> lol
[01:39] <wickedpuppy> haaaa
[01:39] <_jason> salutis:  when you right click ont he desktop there should be a clean up option
[01:39] <wickedpuppy> kk try thoreauputic method :P he is more pro
[01:39] <infested_maggot> ok ..
[01:39] <mattt> can anyone recommend a good stable jabber server to use?
[01:40] <salutis> _jason, mon: but this option is for all icons on desktop
[01:40] <infested_maggot> holly shoot, that was so damn easy :)
[01:40] <_jason> salutis:  ho I understand your question now, hrmm... idk of a way to do that
[01:40] <thoreauputic> infested_maggot: you might need to use sudo on that command
[01:40] <thoreauputic> ah Ok
[01:40] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:40] <infested_maggot> thoreauputic: i did, yeah. thanks dude.
[01:41] <thoreauputic> no worries :)
[01:41] <salutis> hm
[01:41] <infested_maggot> and yeah, it is working fine now :)
[01:41] <thoreauputic> :))
[01:42] <infested_maggot> damn.
[01:42] <dOD> quit
[01:42] <pavka> hm
[01:43] <glyn> I installed the new wine using ./tools/wineinstall from the wine 0.9 directory and after that I did apt-get install wine and it installed version 0.0.2
[01:43] <glyn> what do I do?
[01:43] <infested_maggot> thoreauputic: can u belive me, i was trying to fix azures all night last night, until some dude told me to use java 1.5 becaus azureus won`t work right with 1.4.2
[01:43] <infested_maggot> it was so bllody simple
[01:43] <infested_maggot> *bloody
[01:43] <infested_maggot> hehe, naruto 157, here i come !!
[01:44] <thoreauputic> infested_maggot: we've all been there - often it's just a matter of finding someone who has done it and knows a one-liner ;)
[01:44] <infested_maggot> thoreauputic: once again, thanks :)
[01:45] <irvin> how do i add an alias (e.g. ppp)
[01:45] <thoreauputic> infested_maggot: no problem - it's always nice to solve a problem for someone :))
[01:45] <irvin> alias ppp=`/usr/sbin/pppd -detach'` in /etc/profile?
[01:45] <thoreauputic> irvin: usually in ~/.bashrc
[01:46] <thoreauputic> irvin: unless you want system wide, then look in /etc/bash.bashrc
[01:46] <MrBean> hey
[01:46] <MrBean> how do i get a terminal window up in breezy ?
[01:46] <hit3k> The same way you do in hoary?
[01:46] <MrBean> how lol cos ive lost it
[01:46] <thoreauputic> irvin: BTW you have backticks there - they should be just apostrophes
[01:47] <_jason> MrBean:  it is in accessories now
[01:47] <MrBean> i cant find the terminal
[01:47] <MrBean> ohh
[01:47] <MrBean> :P
[01:47] <MrBean> lol
[01:47] <thoreauputic> MrBean: look in accessories
[01:47] <irvin> thanks thoreauputic
[01:47] <MrBean> i found it now :P
[01:47] <thoreauputic> !openterm
[01:47] <ubotu> To add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package
[01:47] <bobbyd__> can anyone suggest a good graphical front end to cvs?
[01:47] <irvin> i'm setting up a dial-in callback server
[01:48] <irvin> i got the dial-in portion right but lost on callback
[01:48] <hit3k> Anybody know any sites to get some hacks for Gnome?
[01:48] <thoreauputic> bobbyd: from memory KDE has cervisia
[01:48] <thoreauputic> bobbyd: don't know about gnome
[01:48] <Nikusan> hit3k: http://www.gnome-look.org
[01:49] <morphoide> a
[01:49] <hit3k> Nikusan, Thanks
[01:51] <glyn> I build a program and then I use app-get to install it but it gives me the old version
[01:51] <glyn> what is wrong?
[01:51] <hedonick> bobbyd: apt-cache search turned up 'pharmacy' for gnome (never used it though)
[01:51] <hit3k> glyn, what do you mean?
[01:52] <glyn> I use the installer to build wine
[01:53] <glyn> then I use apt-get wine and it gives me the old version
[01:53] <hit3k> you downloaded the source and compiled it?
[01:53] <glyn> am I doing something wrong?
[01:53] <erofrai> glyn, did u use checkinstall?
[01:53] <thoreauputic> glyn: unless you built a *.deb, yes, you will just get your old version
[01:54] <thoreauputic> unless you put the new one in say /usr/local/bin, and that is earlier in your $PATH
[01:54] <regebro> Hi! How can I fugure out what version of a package Ubuntu 5.10 uses, without like, installing it? :)
[01:55] <glyn> should it work normally once I use the Installer to build and install it?
[01:55] <wickedpuppy> regebro, if you don't install .. there is no version ?
[01:55] <defcon8> anyone know a programme that recognises text from a picture?
[01:56] <gouchi> defcon8 : search about ocr
[01:56] <regebro> I was unclear, I don't mean without installing the package. I mean without instyalling Ubuntu. :)
[01:56] <bobbyd> defcon8, search for optical character recognition
[01:56] <defcon8> ok
[01:56] <thoreauputic> defcon8: no offhand - but search in synaptic for ocr (optical character recognition)
[01:56] <raphael> regebro: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:56] <thoreauputic> bobbyd: :)
[01:56] <gouchi> defcon8 : the only one I know is gocr
[01:57] <regebro> raphael: Alright, thanks.
[01:57] <defcon8> thanks
[01:59] <paf> #join zope
[01:59] <MrBean> how can i install make on my system ?
[02:00] <paf> you should do "apt-get install make" as root
[02:00] <thoreauputic> MrBean: install the build-essential package
[02:00] <Seveas> MrBean, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:00] <MrBean> ty :)
[02:01] <stefan_> How do I find out, what's my audio outout device? It isn't /dev/dsp
[02:02] <tescoil> stefan_: do you have any aps successfully providing audio output, e.g., xmms?
[02:03] <stefan_> tescoil: yes. I think i use ALSA
[02:04] <stefan_> tescoil: mpg123 works fine, but if I try to play sth. in rhythmbox the sound is scattered
[02:04] <defcon8>   hell
[02:04] <Seveas> defcon8, please stick to english in here
[02:04] <defcon8> yes
[02:06] <tescoil> stefan_, there's some file you can cat with alsa... I have to figure out which...
[02:09] <hume> i'm trying to get my ALPS topuchpad working, trying to apply the apls patch from xorg-driver-synaptics - but get error msgs.  It says alsp.c alreay exists, and then Hunk #1 Failed, anyogot advice?
[02:10] <XRUK> Hey, I've not got Ubuntu installed yet but when I do, if I install a program through Ubuntu on a user account, will other users be able to see this program on their menu and if not, how do I set up my system so all users can see all programs I install?
[02:10] <XRUK> through Synaptic on a user account*
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> XRUK, menus are shared by every accounts ... i think
[02:12] <Curare> in my case every program I installed every app was accesible by all users
[02:12] <Juhaz> XRUK, you can't install programs with synaptic as user, it will always be system-wide installation
[02:12] <agt> !fonts
[02:12] <ubotu> I guess fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[02:13] <XRUK> Alright thanks :)
[02:13] <agt> !sources
[02:15] <Toccy> Hey
[02:15] <Toccy> I need some help with the Lilo package for Ubuntu 5.04
[02:17] <Toccy> Anyone?
[02:17] <Toccy> Must be someone here
[02:17] <Toccy> !info Lilo
[02:17] <ubotu> lilo: (LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others), section base, is optional. Version: 1:22.6.1-6.2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 333 kB, Installed size: 1068 kB
[02:17] <MenZa`> Why don't you upgrade to breezy anyway?
[02:17] <Toccy> No modem until next week
[02:17] <dooglus> Toccy: what's the problem?
[02:17] <MenZa`> Oh right
[02:17] <Toccy> Wel
[02:17] <Toccy> Well
[02:18] <Toccy> I'm a complete newbie. When I install Lilo I get that I have to run "liloconfig(8)"
[02:18] <Toccy> I tried running that in terminal and trying the debconf stuff
[02:18] <Toccy> But i'm clueless
[02:18] <dooglus> is anyone familiar with running ubuntu in a chroot?  If so, how do I run the /etc/rc3.d/* stuff for the chroot?
[02:18] <dooglus> Toccy: what if you just "sudo lilo"?
[02:19] <[gen2] Niki> does anyone know a apt source with games like AA or ET?
[02:19] <Toccy> Ah
[02:19] <[gen2] Niki> id like to install them over apt
[02:19] <Toccy> I never tried that
[02:19] <Toccy> But I says when I load it from the cd I need to configure it or it won't work
[02:19] <dooglus> Toccy: it's suggesting that you should run "sudo liloconfig" to set up the lilo config first.
[02:20] <dooglus> Toccy: I never tried that, but you could
[02:20] <odious> i'm having dns resolving issues. i've disabled ipv6 in modprobe.d/aliases, but most applications still timeout resolving names. a workaround (?!) is to ping a name, so it's cached, and then i can use it ie ping irc.freenode.net;bitchx odious irc.freenode.net. but that's no fun.
[02:20] <Toccy> Okay
[02:20] <Toccy> Because i've only got internet on my windows (Which I am on) i'll have to reboot
[02:21] <Toccy> So bye
[02:21] <Toccy> Thanks
[02:21] <MenZa`> Good luck with it Toba
[02:21] <MenZa`> Toccy*
[02:21] <glyn> what's an easy way to see what files are taking up the most space on your system?
[02:21] <Tokenizer> msg uboto mouse5
[02:21] <Tokenizer> grr
[02:22] <colen> good morning everyone\
[02:22] <colen> trying to install my printer
[02:22] <hedonick> glyn: looking for big files in your home directory or what?
[02:23] <glyn> yeah
[02:23] <XRUK> glyn: I think you could grep a list of all the files on your system into a file arranged by size
[02:24] <XRUK> As to what command to use though, I don't know
[02:24] <_jason> ubotu:  tell colen about printing
[02:24] <XRUK> glyn: Do you play basketball?
[02:25] <ramza3> question, do I need an domainname for my server to send and receive email
[02:25] <tescoil> glyn: du command.
[02:25] <tescoil> glyn: du == disc usage
[02:26] <colen> my printer is not in the list
[02:26] <glyn> XRUK:Yeah how did you know?
[02:26] <_jason> colen:  what printer?
[02:26] <ramza3> what do I need to setup for sending mail to gmail, POSTFIX-SSL?
[02:27] <glyn> lol
[02:27] <colen> _jason: nevermind, I have loacted it
[02:27] <colen> thank you.
[02:27] <Howitzer> could anyone msg me the contents of their /etc/sudoers file so that i can use it?, because i kind of ruined mine :/
[02:27] <_jason> colen:  you're welcome
[02:28] <topyli> ramza3: most mail clients can send mail directly to your ISP's or google's smtp server
[02:28] <Alinux> hi people, I'm Georgian Team Translator and need help. I've have aredy translated totem, but there is an error in translation...how can I search the word...without "Next 10" or "Last" are there some other better method tu manage everything...it's so slow :(
[02:28] <Tokenizer> i'm having troubles connecting the system sound to the volume of forexame XMMS or any other player...... how can i do this so that if i mute the upper volume button right beside the clock, XMMS also mutes........ ie synch these or link them
[02:28] <ramza3> topyli: I think gmail only accepts through ssl, I dont think I have that installed
[02:28] <XRUK> glyn: I knew soemone who played basketball called glyn
[02:29] <topyli> ramza3: well, most clients can do use ssl too :)
[02:29] <XRUK> glyn: and I think he was going off to do Comp Sci, so I figured if he uses linux he might do Comp sci
[02:29] <glyn> XRUK: Where did you know him from?
[02:29] <XRUK> carmel
[02:29] <topyli> ramza3: doesn't your ISP have a mail server you can use?
[02:29] <glyn> XRUK: Wasn't me, sorry..lol
[02:30] <ramza3> topyli, hmm,I wonder why my server keeps getting connection timeouts when sending, I am using postfix .. I am the ISP
[02:30] <XRUK> glyn: heh, nevermind :)
[02:30] <devilrox> hi to everybody
[02:30] <ramza3> topyli, pretending to anyway
[02:30] <EY> hi guys
[02:30] <EY> i'm having lots of problem configuring my cisco aironet 340 with ubuntu (5.10)
[02:30] <tescoil> has anyone managed to decode streaming mp4 videos?  Archive.org has a bunch of Interesting ones.
[02:30] <devilrox> qualche italiano?
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> !it
[02:31] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[02:31] <devilrox> tnx
[02:31] <colen> _jason: apprantly the canon pixma ip1500 is not supported?  and a quick google search didnt come up with to much
[02:31] <EY> during the first phase of the install (before the reboot), it managed to access the ubuntu website, but after reboot, not.
[02:31] <rey> de dandi sos
[02:31] <ramza3> topyli: I think I need to setup my NAT configuration so I can do outbound and inbound smtp
[02:31] <topyli> ramza3: many ISPs refuse mail sent from dynamic IP addresses. do you have one?
[02:32] <ramza3> topyli: should be static
[02:32] <topyli> i'd use my isp's mail server as a smarthost anyway
[02:32] <ramza3> topylis: ahh
[02:33] <_jason> colen:  you can check if the turboprint.de drivers support it, other than that you're best bet is to post on the forums and check if anyone else has ahd any luck with it or to try a driver for a similar model and see how well it performs
[02:33] <anderss> uhm what package should I install to enable mp3-support?
[02:34] <steffi> Hallo
[02:34] <_jason> ubotu:  tell anderss about mp3
[02:34] <indro> hi
[02:34] <anderss> I know that it's not supported right away 'n all
[02:35] <EY> anyone else having problems with aironet 340 and ubuntu 5.10?
[02:35] <_jason> anderss:  read the page ubotu sent you, it explains how to get them to work
[02:35] <indro> siemens gigaset usb adapter 11 supported by ubuntu?
[02:35] <anderss> _jason I dont think he sent me anything?
[02:36] <_jason> anderss:  you should have received a pm from ubotu, but here is the link: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:36] <anderss> thanks
[02:37] <boci^> webmin support apache2?
[02:37] <indro> its a atmel AT76C505A chipset
[02:38] <ssam> EY, those aironets work well for me
[02:38] <indro> is that supported?
[02:40] <anderss> hey can anybody tell me how to enable danish charsets (or whatever it's called) in aterm? I can't figure it out
[02:40] <anderss> it's pretty stupid since xterm has it running all fine from the beginning
[02:41] <indro> hm?
[02:41] <indro> nobody knows?
[02:41] <moparfan90> i have a .iso file and its for CD's not DVD's and its 1.7GB how do i make it on 2 or 3 CD's?
[02:42] <EY> ssam, what kerneL?
[02:42] <moparfan90> nevermind
[02:43] <Tokenizer> anyone knows how to get the volume of system be adjusted using the volume up/down buttons on the keyboard, i hvae set the shortcuts and when i press up/down i see the volumen animation on the screen go up or down, however the actual sound doesn't change, where do i go to set this option?
[02:44] <EY> how can i find out what kernel is used by the install disk?
[02:44] <thenuke> uname -a
[02:45] <tescoil> EY: uname -a
[02:45] <tescoil> EY: If it's installed already.
[02:45] <EY> tescoil, it's the same as the installed kernel?
[02:46] <tescoil> EY: Are you trying to determine the version of an installed kernel?
[02:46] <stjepan> what name sounds better: slapatoo or slapat?
[02:46] <EY> no, the one used by the install  cd (5.10) without booting with it.
[02:46] <erUSUL> EY, during instalation change to a virtual console (Crtl. + Alt + Fn) and do uname -r
[02:47] <EY> erUSUL,  without booting with it? do you have that info?
[02:47] <tescoil> EY: 2.6.12-9-386
[02:47] <tescoil> EY: That's mine on 5.10
[02:48] <EY> ok, thanks
[02:48] <EY> easy way to change kernel in ubuntu?
[02:48] <deFrysk> EY, witch proc ?
[02:48] <cosonic> hi
[02:48] <deFrysk> -t
[02:48] <tescoil> stjepan, slapatoo, definitely
[02:48] <EY> x86
[02:49] <deFrysk> nm
[02:49] <glyn> how much free space do I need to copy my xauthorization file?
[02:50] <stjepan> tescoil: why?
[02:51] <tescoil> stjepan, I just thought I'd say definitely about something I have absolutely no stake in.
[02:51] <gluke> I'm a very newbie to ubuntu. Could anybody help me pls?
[02:51] <Ins|de> hi there, i have a problem with nvidia drivers, i get this error starting Xorg: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[02:51] <stjepan> gluke: of course
[02:52] <stjepan> gluke: what's your problem?
[02:52] <gluke> It's a l10n question.
[02:52] <_jason> I'm trying to get wget to download to a different directory than the current one by using the -P switch but it doesn't seem to work.  Anyone know what I am doing wrong?  (command used: wget -P '/home/jason' -O asf_url_temp.asx http://www.tsf.pt/tsfdirecto.asx
[02:52] <_jason> )
[02:52] <indro> is atmel chipset supported for Breezy Badger? (siemens gigaset wlan usb adapter 11)
[02:52] <tescoil> l10ns and tigers and bears, oh my!
[02:53] <gluke> While installing 5/04 i'm told that my install cd does not contain full support of my lang
[02:53] <gluke> but there is my language=pack
[02:53] <CookedGryphon> Hi i'm gettign an error when i log in saying my $HOME/.dmrc should have 64 permissions and be owned by user, which it is but the error message still comes up and I can't get rid of it
[02:53] <gluke> what else does it wants?
[02:53] <glyn> umm I can't access my synpatic to remove programs or packages or anything
[02:53] <glyn> how would I manually do that on the terminal?
[02:53] <stjepan> gluke: how do you mean full support?
[02:54] <stjepan> you can't get support for everything
[02:54] <glyn> I want to get rid of openoffice
[02:54] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, have you changed the permisions of the file in question chmod 644 .dmrc
[02:54] <erUSUL> ??
[02:54] <dooglus> _jason: don't use -O if you're using -P
[02:54] <CookedGryphon> erUSUL: yeah i have, but the error message still comes up
[02:54] <stjepan> indro: I have usb adapter 54
[02:54] <stjepan> indro: and it is veeery easy to configure it in ubuntu
[02:54] <gluke> stjepan: i'm not sure what it means. it proposes me to download something
[02:54] <sadikxxx> hey how can i get my wireless adapter (from the asus a7n8x-e deluxe mobo) to work?
[02:54] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, and the user?
[02:55] <stjepan> gluke: I have no idea :(
[02:55] <CookedGryphon> yeah, i own the file
[02:55] <_jason> dooglus:  thanks!
[02:55] <indro> stjepan: you have a wlan0 without configure?
[02:55] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, btw wich program uses this conf file
[02:55] <stjepan> sadikxxx: what wireless adapter?
[02:55] <CookedGryphon> i think its the file that is used to save the session defaults
[02:55] <stjepan> indro: no
[02:55] <stjepan> indro: are you now in ubuntu?
[02:55] <indro> what must do for that? in hoary i have no wlan0
[02:55] <indro> no i want install it but in hoary it dont work
[02:56] <sadikxxx> stjepan its a wireless adapter that came with the mobo. kinda like pci but not quite
[02:56] <dooglus> glyn: sudo apt-get remove package
[02:56] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, mine is 600. try chmod 600 .dmrc; chown user:user .dmrc
[02:56] <stjepan> indro: do you know what is ndiswrapper?
[02:56] <indro> yes
[02:57] <CookedGryphon> erUSUL: ok i'll try that, back in a min, the error message does have a spelling mistake in, so its possible they messed that up too
[02:57] <stjepan> indro: have you tried with ndiswrapper?
[02:57] <indro> no, that should work?
[02:58] <stjepan> indro: Install ndiswrapper (it doesn't require network connection to install): sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[02:58] <stjepan> indro: maybe
[02:58] <stjepan> indro: then put cd with your driver
[02:59] <stjepan> indro: and then do: $ sudo ndiswrapper -i /path/to/driver.inf
[02:59] <Tokenizer> so noone here knows how to get the volume and player control buttons on a keyboard work on ubuntu?
[02:59] <stjepan> indro: after that $ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:00] <stjepan> indro: and then opet System>Administration>Networking. There should appear wlan0
[03:00] <bytefoo> ohhh snap, thats right...its DST
[03:00] <stjepan> indro: that works with usb adapter 54. It should work with 11 too
[03:00] <topyli> Tokenizer: my extra keys do work. find your keyboard model in the keyboard settings, and setup shortcuts in the preferences
[03:00] <indro> okay, try that, thanks
[03:01] <CookedGryphon> erUSUL: no luck with that
[03:02] <tescoil> My most persistent technical problem of the weekend is a Betty Boop video.  <http://www.archive.org/details/bb_chess_nuts>
[03:02] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, :( i do not know what to do nest then
[03:02] <erUSUL> next*
[03:02] <cosonic> HEllo
[03:03] <Tokenizer> topyli, that part is done, pressing the buttons shows that volume slider change on my screen..... it goes up and down fine, however it doesn't actually make my volume change
[03:03] <CookedGryphon> -rw-r--r--  1 adam adam 26 2004-04-30 21:01 .dmrc
[03:03] <CookedGryphon> doe stha tlook right
[03:03] <CookedGryphon> could someone do a ls .dmrc -l so i can compare mine to it?
[03:04] <_jason> CookedGryphon:  -rw-------  1 jason jason 47 2005-10-10 12:19 .dmrc
[03:04] <cosonic> hi ..im new to linux and im trying to install mplayer   ..this is what i get  root@ubuntu:~# apt-get install mplayer
[03:04] <cosonic> Reading package lists... Done
[03:04] <cosonic> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:04] <cosonic> E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[03:04] <thoreauputic> CookedGryphon: I don't have one :)
[03:04] <mantra> I have an asus k8n-e motherboard onboard sound card nforce based I believe, got sound/mp3 working, but cedera fails on alsa check and if I set mulimedia input to alsa it fails, (using 64bit breezy) any ideas ?
[03:04] <CookedGryphon> interesting...
[03:04] <_jason> ubotu:  tell cosonic about mplayer
[03:04] <thoreauputic> cosonic:  apt-cache search mplayer
[03:04] <CookedGryphon> the thing is, the error message comes up but it doesn't seem to affect anythign, i can still save my session and stuff
[03:04] <thoreauputic> cosonic: there are several - like mplayer-586 etc
[03:04] <CookedGryphon> its jstu annoyign cos it comes up every time i log on
[03:05] <dooglus> cosonic: "mplayer-nogui" is good
[03:05] <topyli> Tokenizer: oh, that's another problem, i don't know why it wouldn't work. does the volume applet or the gnome mixer work?
[03:05] <Tokenizer> yah
[03:05] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, -rw-------  1 xxxx xxxx 26 2004-10-11 15:59 .dmrc
[03:05] <Tokenizer> shouldn't they be the same?
[03:06] <cosonic> apt-cache is the database right?
[03:06] <erUSUL> !tell cosonic about repos
[03:06] <topyli> Tokenizer: yep
[03:06] <thoreauputic> cosonic: the list of installable stuff, yeah
[03:06] <CookedGryphon> weird, mine doesn't work even when i ahve it set to coem up as exactly the same as that
[03:06] <Tokenizer> i really don't want to install this though....... http://lineak.sourceforge.net/
[03:06] <tescoil> Is there linux mp4 video decoding?  I keep finding stuff on *streaming* mp4, but not *watching* it.
[03:06] <cosonic> root@ubuntu:~# apt-cache search mplayer
[03:06] <cosonic> mga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)
[03:07] <thoreauputic> Tokenizer: lineakd doesn't play nice with gnome in breezy
[03:07] <thoreauputic> or the reverse
[03:07] <topyli> Tokenizer: xbindkeys used to work well for me in the past
[03:07] <erUSUL> cosonic, read what ubotu told you. you do not have all repos activated
[03:08] <thoreauputic> cosonic: you need multiverse and universe
[03:08] <tescoil> ...and I find packages related to mp4 *audio*.
[03:08] <Tokenizer> hmm
[03:08] <cosonic> erUSUL: how do i activate all repos?
[03:08] <erUSUL> !tell cosonic about repos
[03:08] <thoreauputic> !tell cosonic about repos
[03:08] <thoreauputic> heh
[03:09] <cosonic> thx commards ill read the page
[03:09] <erUSUL> quicker than quickly ;)
[03:09] <jaggedpulse> How do I add things to /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:09] <thoreauputic> erUSUL: I'm the world's slowest typist ;-)
[03:09] <thoreauputic> jaggedpulse:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:09] <elia> alguien sabe si existe easykubuntu y de donde se adquiere?
[03:10] <jaggedpulse> thanks :-)
[03:10] <thoreauputic> or your choice of editor...
[03:10] <thoreauputic> elia: this is an english channel :)
[03:10] <elia> somebody knows if exist easykubuntu y from where I can get?
[03:10] <Tokenizer> xbindkeys is for shell commands....
[03:11] <thoreauputic> elia: don't use it - it isn't safe
[03:11] <electron> how do I go about setting up jpg webcam streaming to my apache server?
[03:11] <thoreauputic> elia: read the wiki
[03:11] <elia> really whay?
[03:11] <electron> so you can go to the url for jpgs of my cam
[03:11] <elia> why?
[03:11] <thoreauputic> !tell elia about docs
[03:11] <tescoil> !tell tescoil about mp4
[03:12] <thoreauputic> elia: running scripts you know nothing about is never a good idea
[03:12] <tescoil> ubotu: i dunno what is 'mp4'
[03:12] <elia> okey
[03:12] <ubotu> tescoil: what are you talking about?
[03:12] <elia> !tell
[03:12] <erUSUL> tescoil, i can hear tha video of bb with xine and w32codecs
[03:12] <erUSUL> that*
[03:13] <mantra> anyone able to help to get my NVidia CK8S soundcard to work propally (ie alsa) I seem to have sound
[03:13] <tescoil> ertUSUL: dang, I guess that's all we get.
[03:14] <asfra> hi, I have gotten a problem with firefox, it won't start anymore. what can i try?
[03:14] <tescoil> asfra: have you tried firing it up from terminal, seeing stderr output?
[03:15] <thoreauputic> asfra: check for lock files in ~/.mozilla/firefox , or move the .mozilla dir and rerun, or run the profile selector
[03:15] <electron> why when I do sudo it asks for my user passwd not the root passwd?
[03:15] <elia> !tell elia about docs
[03:15] <thoreauputic> !tell electron about root
[03:15] <elia> how works !tell
[03:15] <thoreauputic> electron: that's how sudo works
[03:15] <elia> !help
[03:15] <mustard5> electron, yes
[03:16] <electron> but I have root access
[03:16] <electron> isn't that insecure how it works?
[03:16] <erUSUL> !tell elia about ubotu
[03:16] <mustard5> electron are you logged in as root?
[03:16] <thoreauputic> electron: makes no difference for sudo
[03:16] <electron> no
[03:16] <mustard5> k
[03:16] <electron> but I can
[03:16] <electron> when doing shit
[03:16] <Bite_Me_Bill> root access is more insecure than sudo.
[03:16] <electron> alright
[03:17] <asfra> tescoil, I have tried the ' ! firefox ' command, but that doesn't work... what is stderr output?
[03:17] <thoreauputic> !rootsudo
[03:17] <ubotu> it has been said that rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:17] <mustard5> electron, you don't need to log in as root with sudo
[03:17] <thoreauputic> electron: read that ^^^
[03:17] <CookedGryphon> asfra have u tried jsut killall firefox;killall firefox-bin
[03:17] <CookedGryphon> or rebooting
[03:17] <Tokenizer> is there a music player that goes in the top "taskbar" like right beside system tray ? (sorry to use the Win32 terminology)
[03:18] <thoreauputic> Tokenizer: several - amarok for instance
[03:18] <Kimppa> Hello. I've been having small problems with my ati video card. This is the output for fglrxinfo -> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3831  I have changed "ati" to "fglrx" in xorg.conf and xorg-driver-fglrx is installed. Why do I not get ati's message when I run fglrxinfo? Any idea how to fix this?
[03:18] <carpediem> Tokenizer: there are applets for most players
[03:18] <electron> I don't think Ubuntu is very good for a server
[03:18] <glyn> ~pastebin
[03:18] <glyn> !pastebin
[03:18] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:18] <Tokenizer> isn't amarok for kde?
[03:19] <thoreauputic> Tokenizer: yes, but it runs happily in gnome too
[03:19] <Tokenizer> happily eh? kk
[03:19] <mantra> ok if no one can help, is their a place which you can recomend with good information on setting up nvidia sound card, to work propally with alsa
[03:19] <carpediem> Tokenizer: It is qt and probably depends on Arts...so I wouldn't use it under Gnome, but it will work.
[03:19] <erUSUL> elia, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage?highlight=%28ubotu%29 for ubotu help
[03:20] <carpediem> Tokenizer: there is a tool applet for Rhythmbox installed on Ubuntu by default.
[03:20] <tescoil> asfra: command is mozilla-firefox.
[03:20] <thoreauputic> carpediem: actually you can use amarok with gstreamer, xine or  arts backends
[03:20] <deepwoodz> When i'm on myspace and I try to look at my leave a message on my friends page it closes because of totem media player
[03:20] <anderss> Where can find performance benchmarks for the most common desktop enviroments?
[03:20] <erUSUL> mantra, what is the problem exactly
[03:20] <bretzel> Hi,
[03:20] <deepwoodz> how can i stop it from closing firefox
[03:21] <tescoil> asfra: stderr is output to terminal that will say, for instance, "Segmentation Fault"
[03:21] <electron> okay, I set my root password by opening a root terminal in gdm and done 'passwd'
[03:21] <mantra> keep getting error:failed to construct test pipline for 'ALSA; and it fails cedera alsa test
[03:21] <deepwoodz> it wont load the video
[03:21] <electron> & do = &&make
[03:21] <erUSUL> mantra, and other apps? like xmms or rhythmbox
[03:22] <mantra> sorry missed a bit when I set default source in multimedia systems selector to alsa it comes up with that error message erUSUL
[03:22] <tpbaerli> hi!
[03:22] <|Beavis|> Hi
[03:22] <carpediem> Tokenizer: the default tooltray isn't very useful, but there is a better one in apt that gives you controls.  "rhythmbox-applet"
[03:22] <bretzel> ( Breezy ) -> my ~/.dmrc permissions are set to 644 and owner is me - gdm ( or something xwindow starter ) keeps warn me that this file need to be 644 and set to the owner --- ?? thus ignoring -- very annoying
[03:22] <asfra> CookedGryphon, yeah, i have tried that, nothing is running, but it still doesn't start, when i try to upgrade it, i get a error message saying that: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite /var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic, that also exist in E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/compone
[03:22] <asfra> nts/libmozgnome.so,that also exist in the package firefox-gnome-support
[03:22] <mantra> erUSUL I seem to have sound working mp3s the lot, but I dont know if that proves anything
[03:22] <erUSUL> mantra, try aplay /usr/share/sounds/phone.wav
[03:23] <|Beavis|> Hey, how do I use apt-get remove to completely un-install something
[03:23] <mantra> erUSIL: get a ringing sound
[03:23] <|Beavis|> I installed Mysql server
[03:23] <bretzel> ( Breezy ) -> my ~/.dmrc permissions are set to 644 and owner is me - gdm ( or something xwindow starter ) keeps warn me that this file need to be 644 and set to the owner --- ?? thus ignoring -- very annoying
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> |Beavis|: --purge
[03:23] <Kimppa> |Beavis|: apt-get remove --purge <package>
[03:23] <tpbaerli> I need some help to install mplayer on Ubuntu 5.1. I do not find the multiverse-entry in synaptic :-(
[03:23] <|Beavis|> Thank you :)
[03:24] <CookedGryphon> bretzel, i have that problem
[03:24] <erUSUL> mantra, so basically the problem is only with cedega?
[03:24] <bretzel> CookedGryphon: ... and no one has a clue ?
[03:24] <CookedGryphon> bretzel: apparently not, though most people's .dmrc files are actually set to 600 permissions
[03:25] <mantra> erUSUL: cedera doesnt detect it yes, and when I set multimedia systems selector and choose alsa as default source I get "failed to construct test pipeline" when I hit the test button
[03:25] <bretzel> CookedGryphon: I did set to 644 and it is owned by me - even after re-login it keeps ignoring this file
[03:25] <bretzel> CookedGryphon: And keeps telling that the perms are wrong !
[03:26] <electron> how do I remove gnome so I can just use blackbox?
[03:26] <erUSUL> mantra, i get the same error in multimedia selector but i use esd so never have problems
[03:27] <mantra> erUSUL: so set it to esd? will that allow me to play sound from diferent apps at the same time ?
[03:27] <zbin> hi
[03:27] <|Beavis|> Jeez, this os completely levels windows
[03:27] <bretzel> CookedGryphon: If only I can find the thing that is messed up - I could fix it;
[03:27] <highvoltage> |Beavis|: yep :)
[03:27] <erUSUL> mantra, yes it should works for me
[03:28] <erUSUL> mantra, some apps do not work though games audiacity and the like
[03:28] <mantra> erUSUL: changed it to ESD, test doesnt play any sound is that notmal ?
[03:28] <mantra> normal even
[03:28] <|Beavis|> Its got free stuff, that actually works! No good freeware for windows
[03:28] <|Beavis|> lol
[03:28] <jaggedpulse> i've been trying to install updates and it tell me 404 not found for http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/universe  multiverse   and main sources
[03:28] <|Beavis|> I get that too
[03:28] <jaggedpulse> do i need a new addy?
[03:28] <tpbaerli> Hi you very cool and intelligent guy, who says me how i can install mplayer on ubuntu 5.1 :-)
[03:28] <thoreauputic> jaggedpulse:  /topic
[03:29] <thoreauputic> jaggedpulse: no backports for breezy yet
[03:29] <|Beavis|> The backports arent there
[03:29] <|Beavis|> Just comment them
[03:29] <jaggedpulse> ok
[03:29] <jaggedpulse> what about universe and multiverse?
[03:29] <|Beavis|> They should work
[03:29] <jaggedpulse> 404 not found
[03:30] <bretzel> -- Trying user auto-login and be back ;-)
[03:30] <erUSUL> mantra, but with gstreamer based apps, xmms, xine totem... etc works
[03:30] <erUSUL> mantra, run esd first in a terminal
[03:30] <thoreauputic> !tell jaggedpulse about repos
[03:31] <mantra> erUSUL: thanks for the help, ill hunt down teamspeak and see what the hells wrong with that now, if I can get that and cedera working together I can delete my windows parition :)
[03:31] <jaggedpulse> thank you :-)
[03:32] <mantra> erUSUL: all my gstreamer apps seem cool, in fact got mp3 etc working very easily, only bitch which still doesnt work is wmv9 but think that has more to do with me using 64bit rather than 32bit os so I read, thanks again for the help
[03:32] <hawking> hi I need a nice sniffer to sniff the connection between me and a web-page and according to it I'll write a programme
[03:32] <deepwoodz> Everytime I try to watch a video on Firefox it gives me a error and says something about Totem media player and closes the browswer can anyone help me?
[03:33] <thoreauputic> deepwoodz: install totem-xine, and read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:33] <deFrysk> deepwoodz, rename or remove the totemplugins from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[03:34] <thoreauputic> deepwoodz: the default totem has issues with some formats
[03:34] <mantra> think ill have to look into cedera more it really doesnt like anything else running sound when its running
[03:34] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: no need
[03:34] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, it is when you install mplayerplug-in?
[03:34] <glyn> !pastebin
[03:34] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:34] <deepwoodz> ok
[03:34] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: and that breaks whatever functionality was already there
[03:34] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, ok
[03:35] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: I just use totem-xine and everything works out of the box with w32codecs etc
[03:35] <thoreauputic> I can even listen to windows media, much to my surprise and pleasure
[03:36] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, I have issues with totem , it freezes on my with the browserplug-ins
[03:36] <electron> can I install .deb files with unbuntu?
[03:37] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: hmm - I must have been lucky - the default plugin works like a charm
[03:37] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, so I switched to mplayerplug-in
[03:37] <thoreauputic> electron: don't use debian packages though - use ubuntu ones
[03:37] <sm> hi all.. how can I verify the display depth X is using ?
[03:37] <thoreauputic> electron: debian is out of sync with ubuntu
[03:37] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, as free player totem works fine here too
[03:37] <sm> in addition to setting DefaultDepth in xorg.conf ?
[03:38] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: ah well - whatever works for you! :)
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> sm,  i think the 'xvidtune' program can show you the details.
[03:38] <bastardkestrel> my sound is no longer working
[03:39] <limguohong91> hey How do i check how much space i ahve left in my Ubuntu drive?
[03:39] <thrush> limguohong91: df -m maybe
[03:39] <rem_> hey..are there any ubuntu packages for opengroupware ... ?
[03:39] <deFrysk> limguohong91, just open system monitor and open the devices tab
[03:39] <bastardkestrel> limguohong91: system montior
[03:40] <hawking> can someone help me pls? I am trying to write a programme which will send a value to "http://gdataonline.com/seekhash.php" I try to send it as "http://gdataonline.com/seekhash.php?hash=xxx" can anyone show me a way to send it likely?
[03:40] <bastardkestrel> can someone help me get sound?
[03:40] <sm> Dr_Willis: xvidtune doesn't seem to show that info
[03:40] <sm> thx
[03:40] <bina> how do I change the screen resolution the KDM login manager uses?  Its stuck at 1280x1024 @ 60Hz or something but my monitor displays best a 1024x768 @ 75Hz
[03:40] <bastardkestrel> it was fine yesterday
[03:40] <sm> nor does xdpyinfo afaict
[03:41] <thoreauputic> bastardkestrel: first step: check that sound isn't muted in the volume setting
[03:41] <bastardkestrel> thoreauputic: yep its all up
[03:42] <eecore> xten phone set up?
[03:42] <lamp_> how can tell ubuntu to dedect al operating systems on my computer. So i can boot them with grub
[03:42] <eecore> god damn it
[03:42] <eecore> ignore that
[03:42] <bastardkestrel> thoreauputic: nothing muted in playback and alsamixer is all up
[03:42] <thoreauputic> eecore: erm - code of conduct ?
[03:42] <deFrysk> bina, remove "1280x1024" from your xorg.conf
[03:42] <deFrysk> bina, and restart x
[03:43] <agt> How come my hardware is detected by xorg when I do a full install but it uses generic drivers when I start from a server install ?
[03:43] <bina> deFrysk: that all?, k thanks :)
[03:43] <thoreauputic> bastardkestrel: hmm - some things in alsmixer might *need* to be muted (I had that issue with mine)
[03:43] <deFrysk> bina, I hope thats all yes :)
[03:43] <thoreauputic> bastardkestrel: I'm not a sound guru though, sorry
[03:43] <bastardkestrel> thoreauputic: preferences sound has my sound card listed, it was working before
[03:43] <eecore> thoreauputic, that wasn't a question for here, Xchat automatically opened #ubuntu and set focus, it was animed at a different server
[03:44] <[matrim] > any good rar achive handler?
[03:44] <thoreauputic> eecore: OK :)
[03:44] <gabrieltomate> ubuntu-br
[03:44] <gabrieltomate> ops
[03:44] <thrush> lamp_: should automatically is an os missing from boot options?
[03:44] <doc|home> any ops about?
[03:44] <cosonic> hmm
[03:44] <thoreauputic> [matrim] : unrar-nonfree from the multiverse repo
[03:44] <thoreauputic> doc|home: yes, why?
[03:44] <cosonic> still cant install mplayer althou i enabled all the repos
[03:45] <nalioth> !tell cosonic about mplayer
[03:45] <doc|home> thoreauputic: ok if I message you?
[03:45] <bastardkestrel> !alsa
[03:45] <ubotu> I heard alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[03:45] <bina> deFrysk: there are loads of depths. do i just remove it from '24'?
[03:45] <[matrim] > thoreauputic, does it handle r01 part files?
[03:45] <thoreauputic> doc|home: OK
[03:45] <thoreauputic> [matrim] : no idea sorry
[03:45] <deFrysk> bina, is 24 set to default ?
[03:45] <thrush> [matrim] : yes just specify the first file
[03:45] <bina> deFrysk: yeah
[03:46] <lamp_> thrush, i wan't to install debian also.  So i want that grub can boot ubuntu and debian.  I know ubuntu can dedect it at install, how can i do it now
[03:46] <deFrysk> bina, if so , only from 24
[03:46] <mattt> what's the package name for realplayer?
[03:46] <[matrim] > trush,how do I do that?
[03:46] <Parallax> how do I mount a reiserfs partition with write permissions for users
[03:46] <bina> deFrysk: Nice one. thanks
[03:46] <deFrysk> mat, wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/r/realplay/realplayer_10.0.6-0.1_i386.deb
[03:47] <deFrysk> mat and dpkg -i it
[03:47] <mattt> deFrysk, thanks!
[03:47] <cosonic> nalioth: E: Couldn't find package mplayer-586
[03:47] <Riwers> anyone here also using windows?
[03:47] <eecore> realplayer? Ouch
[03:47] <deFrysk> matt first sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> Riwers,  its been known to happen. :P
[03:47] <deFrysk> mattpj1,
[03:48] <deFrysk> mattt first sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[03:48] <Riwers> anyone here tried realbasic?
[03:48] <deFrysk> all those silly names :s
[03:48] <mattt> deFrysk, heh, same thing you have to do on fedora :)
[03:48] <nalioth> cosonic: then check you have universe and multiverse enabled
[03:48] <deFrysk> matt deps eh ;p
[03:49] <thrush> lamp_: I would think debian would detect ubuntu after install automatically.  If not you would just need to edit /boot/grub/menu.list
[03:49] <cosonic> nalioth: i enabled everything
[03:49] <salomon_> hi
[03:49] <lamp_> thrush, i think there must be a automatic solution
[03:50] <salomon_> i've just installed debian breezy
[03:50] <salomon_> and my xserver doenstn work
[03:50] <cosonic> nalioth: both the source and binary are enabled
[03:50] <Parallax> how do I mount a reiserfs partition with write permissions for non-root-users
[03:50] <nevchen> hi
[03:51] <thoreauputic> cosonic: did you reload/ update ?
[03:51] <nalioth> cosonic: did you apt-get update?
[03:51] <cosonic> yes to both
[03:51] <Kimppa> Hello. I've been having small problems with my ati video card. This is the output for fglrxinfo -> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3831  I have changed "ati" to "fglrx" in xorg.conf and xorg-driver-fglrx is installed. Why do I not get ati's message when I run fglrxinfo? Any idea how to fix this?
[03:52] <cosonic> root@ubuntu:~# apt-get install mplayer-586
[03:52] <cosonic> Reading package lists... Done
[03:52] <cosonic> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:52] <cosonic> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://se.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/se.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:52] <cosonic> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://se.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/se.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:52] <noirequus> cosonic: please dont paste in here, read the /topic
[03:53] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[03:53] <cosonic> i apologise :)
[03:53] <noirequus> cosonic: backports dont exist yet
[03:53] <cosonic> ok so what do i do to solve the problem?
[03:53] <Pablo> it is sunday in the usa
[03:54] <nevchen> how can I install sim @ unbuntu?
[03:54] <thoreauputic> cosonic: BTW, you appear to be doing IRC as root - please don't
[03:54] <SoloSeKNoSeNada> Hello, I can't heard all sound in the same time. What should  I do to get it ?
[03:54] <Pablo> cosonic, try here --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=418707&posted=1#post418707
[03:55] <cosonic> thoreauputic:  sorry i didnt understand what u mean
[03:56] <thoreauputic> cosonic: please log out and login as your user to run IRC - running as root is a bad idea
[03:56] <Pablo> cosonic, also use mplayer-386 or mplayer 686
[03:56] <cosonic> Pablo:  i tried all
[03:56] <cosonic> ok thoreauputic i will do that right away
[03:56] <Pablo> did y0u look at the link I just posted in channel?
[03:56] <thesilentkiller> how do i start OpenOffice with root access?
[03:56] <cosonic> yes Pablo
[03:57] <thoreauputic> cosonic: OK
[03:57] <Pablo> did you add the repositories that it said to add?
[03:57] <thoreauputic> thesilentkiller: what on earth for?
[03:57] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i need a quick and easy way to resize a rather large batch of photos, any hints?
[03:57] <thesilentkiller> thoreauputic: it is not able to save files in my home directory :-s
[03:57] <cosonic> ALL yes
[03:58] <Pablo> ok.. then today you fail at mplayer
[03:58] <cosonic> not only today
[03:58] <thoreauputic> thesilentkiller: that won't be solved by saving as root- you won't be able to access your files as user
[03:58] <cosonic> working fine with my other 64bit machine
[03:58] <thesilentkiller> thoreauputic: so i chmod recursively and change the permission level?
[03:58] <cosonic> anyways i gotta relog ..hold on
[03:58] <thoreauputic> thesilentkiller: you have some kind of permissions problem
[03:58] <Pablo> I followed that instruction set the other day and it worked fine
[03:59] <thoreauputic> thesilentkiller: erm - who owns your $HOME dir ?
[03:59] <thesilentkiller> thoreauputic: even from a terminal, i had the same problem. mkdir didnt work. i had to sudo mkdir
[03:59] <thesilentkiller> thoreauputic: how do i find out who owns my $HOME? :-?
[03:59] <thoreauputic> thesilentkiller:  what does  ls -ld  /home/youruser  say ?
[03:59] <ali4728> Help, what is the linux command to see the used and free hard disk size??
[03:59] <thesilentkiller> thoreauputic: that gives my name. the name in which i am logged in now
[03:59] <thoreauputic> where "youruser" is your login name of course
[03:59] <thrush> ali4728: i use df -m to get size in mb
[04:00] <deFrysk> ali4728, free ?
[04:00] <ali4728> thrush, thnx
[04:00] <thoreauputic> thesilentkiller: show us the output please
[04:00] <kandoora_> there are a lot of download managers out there (aria, cURL, download 4 x, gwget) which one do you guys use
[04:00] <gabrieltomate> whats the command for show onde dialog to write another command?
[04:00] <thoreauputic> it should be one line
[04:00] <deFrysk> oh my thats ram and swap hehe
[04:00] <gabrieltomate> whats the command for show onde dialog to write another command? (i want put in fluxbox menu)
[04:01] <thesilentkiller> thoreauputic: drwxr-xr-x  31 silent silent 4096 2005-10-30 08:47 /home/silent/
[04:01] <thoreauputic> gabrieltomate: in fluxbox you want fbrun
[04:01] <Cosonic> hi again
[04:01] <thoreauputic> thesilentkiller: OK looks normal
[04:01] <kandoora_> does anyone use a download manager
[04:01] <hackersend> no manager?
[04:01] <Annasweety> Can somebody please help me i just installed Ubuntu Linux and now updateing all the packages and i also updated firefox its in the temp folder how do i install it now ?
[04:02] <ISOcrates> hey guys.  if i wanted to dual boot os x and ubuntu, what should i select for my os x drive format?  mac os extended or unix file system?
[04:02] <thoreauputic> thesilentkiller: can you save other files ? For instance do you get an error if you run " touch foo" in your home dir ?
[04:02] <eecore> does anyone know what the default sound device is in Ubuntu? /dev/dsp and /dev/audio AND /dev/sound don't exist, yet i am listening to music as i speak :/
[04:03] <stpere> eecore, /dev/audio I think
[04:03] <thoreauputic> ISOcrates: wouldn't it be hfsplus ?
[04:03] <eecore> weird :S
[04:03] <thesilentkiller> thoreauputic: actually, i am able to create directories normally in my home directory. but in a deeper place /home/silent/a/b/c, i have problem. i can only create a directory with sudo
[04:03] <stpere> eecore, it does exist here
[04:03] <wolki> hi!
[04:03] <Annasweety> Where should i installed firefox where is the program folder on ubuntu linux?
[04:03] <Annasweety> Anyone?
[04:03] <thoreauputic> thesilentkiller: odd
[04:03] <hackersend> /var/
[04:03] <ryanmt> hi, can somebody tell me why my rear speakers arnt working. The volumes turned up and the fronts work fine
[04:03] <eecore> stpere, it doesn't here :P
[04:03] <thesilentkiller> thoreauputic: and an ls -l on that directory returns drwxr-xr-x
[04:03] <eecore> eecore@Bandit:~$ cat /dev/audio
[04:03] <eecore> cat: /dev/audio: No such file or directory
[04:03] <ISOcrates> thoreauputic: im formatting and putting on os x first so my choice are 'mac os extended (journaled)' or 'unix file system'
[04:04] <lsuactiafner> thesilentkiller : as sudo run chown -R user.user /home/user
[04:04] <thoreauputic> thesilentkiller: does this apply to all directories ? Or only some?
[04:04] <thesilentkiller> lsuactiafner: thoreauputic: ah ha.....ls -ld on the deep directory  returns root root
[04:04] <Annasweety> Can somebody please help me install firefox from the temp folder?
[04:05] <thoreauputic> ISOcrates: for OS-X I would think you choose an OS-X format - but I did this with the OS-X install CD
[04:05] <_jason> Annasweety:  why are you installing firefox?  What is wrong with syanptic's ff?
[04:05] <lsuactiafner> or user.users
[04:05] <Cosonic> what does this msg mean  ?? E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:05] <ISOcrates> ok cool
[04:05] <hybrid_goth> Annasweety: mv the firefox file to a real folder
[04:05] <wolki> i have a problem with the usb digicam... it doesn't seeem to mount anymore on breezy, worked well on hoary. the usb stick works. lsusb finds the camera, but it doesn't appear on the desktop any ideas?
[04:05] <thesilentkiller> lsuactiafner: is that command recursive?
[04:05] <hybrid_goth> OSX uses HFS+
[04:05] <ryanmt> hi, can somebody tell me why my rear speakers arnt working. The volumes turned up and the fronts work fine
[04:05] <thoreauputic> thesilentkiller: ah - so sudo chown -R silent:silent
[04:05] <Annasweety> Well i just installed ubuntu and its updating 114 packages so i just downloaded firefox use firefox
[04:06] <hybrid_goth> Annasweety: open a terminal
[04:06] <Annasweety> ok
[04:06] <_jason> Annasweety: the firefox that came with ubuntu is not working?
[04:06] <Annasweety> it is but it was old 1.2 the new one is 1.
[04:06] <Annasweety> 7
[04:06] <hybrid_goth> Annasweety: type mv <firefox file> ~/ in the terminal
[04:06] <hybrid_goth> and it is 1.0.7
[04:06] <_jason> Annasweety:  let Synaptic update it
[04:06] <hybrid_goth> 1.5 doesnt come out untill Nov1
[04:07] <wolki> or how do you mount usb stuff manually? it's for a relative's notebook, and this really needs to work
[04:07] <kandoora_> what media player do you guys use: ogle, videolan, xine, mplayer or totem
[04:07] <hybrid_goth> wolki: is it in your mtab/fstab?
[04:07] <hybrid_goth> mplayer kandoora_
[04:07] <thesilentkiller> thoreauputic: lsuactiafner: chown did it for me. now things work fine. thanks guys
[04:07] <ryanmt> hi, can somebody tell me why my rear speakers arnt working. The volumes turned up and the fronts work fine
[04:07] <thoreauputic> thesilentkiller: yw :)
[04:08] <kandoora_> hybrid_goth, is that THE player
[04:08] <hybrid_goth> yes
[04:08] <hybrid_goth> ryanmt: are they plugged in?
[04:08] <Annasweety> ok
[04:08] <zion115> does any1 know if Counter strike will work on Linux?
[04:08] <kandoora_> hybrid_goth, should i uninstall totem
[04:08] <wolki> hybrid_goth, how should it look like in the mtab?
[04:08] <ryanmt> yup
[04:08] <sexcopter8000m> kandoora_ it's the all-bells-and-whistles player, but in my (limited) experience it's a bit buggy and unreliable
[04:08] <mustard5> zion115, if you pay for cedega it should
[04:08] <thesilentkiller> thoreauputic: i am going to become an Ubuntu propagandizer (is there such a word?), just for the sheer power of its IRC room
[04:08] <hybrid_goth> kandoora_: most people swear by mplayer or VLC and VLC is based on mplayer
[04:08] <thrush> !ubotu
[04:08] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:08] <_jason> Annasweety:  you generally don't want to install things manually, let Synaptic take care of everything :D
[04:08] <hybrid_goth> kandoora_: if you think it is nessecary
[04:08] <thoreauputic> thesilentkiller: heheh :)
[04:09] <hybrid_goth> wolki: h/o let me look
[04:09] <mustard5> zion115, google up transgaming  ... I think it www.transgaming.com
[04:09] <kandoora_> thanx hybrid and sexcopter
[04:09] <zion115> Fanx
[04:09] <mustard5> zion115, np
[04:09] <wolki> hybrid_goth, the usb drive is there, the camera not (neither when plugged in nor when not)
[04:09] <ryanmt> hi, can somebody tell me why my rear speakers arnt working. The volumes turned up and the fronts work fine. They are all plugged in right
[04:10] <jaggedpulse> i've installed libdvdcss2 and i still can't get totem movie player to play dvds... it says playing but it says 0:00/0:00 with a DVD in there.   then, i tried installing VLC and it isn't recognizing it either?
[04:10] <dotrig> hi.
[04:10] <stpere> ryanmt, do you have an external volume knob for the rear speakers?
[04:10] <theconartist> this channel has to many people, im telling you
[04:10] <hybrid_goth> wolki: dont worry about mtab. put /dev/sda1 /mount/point filesystem defualts 0 0 in /etc/fstab
[04:10] <dotrig> Any one know howto change the port in the bittorrent client gnome-bt?.
[04:11] <ryanmt> yes, its set to center atm.. if i set it to rear it goes quiet.. set it to front it stays the same
[04:11] <ryanmt> the cards a audigy 2
[04:11] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: another one with insomnia , eh ? ;-)
[04:11] <stpere> ryanmt, open up a terminal and type alsamixer
[04:11] <wolki> hybrid_goth, thanks I'll try!
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: hm.?
[04:11] <theconartist> i need t3h h3lpz0r!!!1
[04:11] <hybrid_goth> wolki: good luck :D
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> wtf. lol. i didnt know the time ;)
[04:11] <theconartist> "configure: error: no X support found.  Use --x-includes and --x-libraries to spe cify the X
[04:11] <theconartist> path on your system, or --without-x to disable X support.
[04:11] <theconartist> "
[04:11] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: or are you in W.A ?
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> mind you , only got home at 11 ish
[04:11] <hybrid_goth> theconartist: talk civiliazed and it will come quicker
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: nah, sa
[04:12] <theconartist> hybrid_goth, lol
[04:12] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: that's what I thought :)
[04:12] <morphix> aussies?
[04:12] <morphix> :o
[04:12] <zion115> can any1 tell me how to execute a .bin file?
[04:12] <thoreauputic> morphix: yup
[04:12] <mustard5> <<---QLD
[04:12] <hybrid_goth> theconartist: what were you doing?
[04:12] <morphix> i'm aussie
[04:12] <theconartist> anyway, i have no clue where what i need for x-libraries and x-includes
[04:12] <morphix> :D
[04:12] <morphix> nsw :)
[04:12] <theconartist> hybrid_goth, compiling imlib2
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi mustard5 ;)
[04:12] <theconartist> err configuring
[04:12] <mustard5> yo
[04:12] <hybrid_goth> theconartist: it isnt in universe?
[04:12] <thoreauputic> zion115: ./binfile.bin  or  sh binfile.bin
[04:12] <dotrig> Needs gnome-bt help
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. as always, the aussies up in chan after midnight
[04:12] <ryanmt> makes no difference turning them up in alsamixer :(
[04:13] <zion115> i did sh didnt work
[04:13] <hybrid_goth> it maybe need by X not the other way around
[04:13] <morphix> :P
[04:13] <theconartist> ?
[04:13] <zion115> hlupdate.bin
[04:13] <thoreauputic> zion115:  chmod +x binfile.bin and try again
[04:13] <_jason> zion115:  try the first method that was mentioned ./file.bin
[04:13] <jaggedpulse> having problems playing dvds and i've already instally libdvdcss2 and then i even tried installing VLC in place of Totem and I still have problems. Any idea how I can make it work??
[04:13] <zion115> ok
[04:13] <dotrig> can one say how i change the port 6881 to 1000 on gnome-bt ?
[04:13] <zion115> thanx
[04:13] <hybrid_goth> theconartist: it may not be the matter of the lib needing X but X needing the lib
[04:13] <stpere> ryanmt, make sure they aren't muted
[04:14] <stpere> ryanmt, in alsamixer that is
[04:14] <ryanmt> they are not muted ive triple checked all the options
[04:14] <theconartist> umm...
[04:14] <kandoora_> hybrid_goth, when i use synaptic to download mplayer i only get mga-vid-source what do i do?
[04:14] <noirequus> dotrig: http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/cmdline.shtml
[04:14] <tris622ph> how do i add in my screen resolution setup  size 1280 x 1024
[04:14] <stpere> ryanmt, does your jack between your soundcard and your external central is plugged?
[04:14] <noirequus> kandoora_: enable universe and multiverse
[04:15] <theconartist> hybrid_goth, x is running fine without it right now
[04:15] <stpere> ryanmt, on my model, you need two jacks
[04:15] <hybrid_goth> kandoora_: imho, not many ops like this but i compile mplayer from source and get their essential codecs from mplayerhq.hu and then it all works.
[04:15] <mustard5> stpere, does he need to add the 'surround' volume control in volume preferences?  just curious :)
[04:15] <ryanmt> yeah both jacks are in the black, green and yellow (sub)
[04:15] <hybrid_goth> theconartist: then idk man, sorry
[04:15] <theconartist> all i need is the paths for those to vars :/
[04:15] <theconartist> two*
[04:16] <kandoora_> noirequus, are they good sources or do i need to be worried about them
[04:16] <dotrig> im mean buildin one
[04:16] <stpere> ryanmt, try what mustard5 suggested
[04:16] <hybrid_goth> hmm i need to upgrade but i dont feel like rebooting afterwards
[04:17] <ryanmt> ive added all the extra volume controlls "Analog Front" "Analog Rear" etc..
[04:17] <mustard5> ryanmt, double click on master volume control..select preferences..and add 'Surround' ...might work..I'm not familiar with surroun though
[04:17] <mustard5> ryanmt, k
[04:17] <stpere> ryanmt, was it working in another OS?
[04:17] <ryanmt> yup
[04:18] <wolki> hybrid_goth, goth: doesn't seem to work
[04:18] <wolki> thanks anyway
[04:18] <Boobek> hi
[04:18] <Nail_Bunny> whats a program i can use to brun avis or mpegs and stuff, with menus (DVD)
[04:19] <neologic_> hello
[04:19] <Boobek> use synaptic package manager to find it Nail_Bunny
[04:19] <Boobek> ...
[04:19] <Nail_Bunny> boobek, that will take forever
[04:19] <tris622ph> how do i add screen resolution in screen resolution dialog?
[04:19] <neologic_> I want to install and run ZSNES, but it doesn't seem to be in synaptic. what do I do?
[04:19] <thoreauputic> Nail_Bunny: use the search field :)
[04:20] <darkphader> will samba-3.0.20b from debian unstable work woth ubuntu?
[04:20] <Nail_Bunny> neologic apt-get install zsnes
[04:20] <thoreauputic> !tell Nail_Bunny about restricted
[04:20] <Nail_Bunny> neologic activate the repos first
[04:20] <tris622ph> i have only 3 resolution, 800 x 600, 1024 x 768 pixels and the lower one
[04:20] <rob_p> tris622ph:  Make sure it's defined in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[04:20] <Cosonic> hmm
[04:20] <Nail_Bunny> thoreauputic i got the restricted formats working, just burning with a menu i need
[04:21] <glyn> if I pointed the incorrect path to a program but it has the same name as the program it's looking for, how do I fix this?
[04:21] <thoreauputic> Nail_Bunny: ah I see - there's a wiki page about CD /DVD burning as well - I forget the exact URL
[04:21] <neologic_> Nail_Bunny, universe is activated though....
[04:22] <thrush>  2878 ?        00:00:00 wdm
[04:22] <thoreauputic> Nail_Bunny: probably wiki.ubuntu.com/CDBurning or similar
[04:22] <Nail_Bunny> neologic_ alright, go into synaptic, click setting then repos, make sure unactivated ones are shown, by click show inactive through properties
[04:22] <tris622ph> how do i add that
[04:22] <tris622ph> i have bought a new monitor that has a higher resolution
[04:22] <Nail_Bunny> thoreauputic, ill try
[04:23] <tris622ph> when i first install ubuntu i have to choose the lower resolution which is in installation process
[04:23] <thoreauputic> Nail_Bunny: if th epage doesn't exist you''ll see other similar links listed
[04:23] <rob_p> tris622ph:  Open your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add your desired resolution to the right section.  Make a backup of your original xorg.conf though.
[04:23] <Nail_Bunny> thoreauputic, i found one, DVD shrink
[04:23] <thoreauputic> aha
[04:24] <kandoora_> i enabled multiverse and universe, but apparently there seems to be a problem, i keep getting an error
[04:24] <Nail_Bunny> neologic_ even if u enable multiverse and universe, and it's not there just download and manually install http://www.zsnes.com there is a linux version
[04:24] <tescoil> I'm not finding gaddr via synaptic.  Is there an address book that will import old gcards?
[04:25] <neologic_> Nail_Bunny, I'm not sure I know what you mean....  "Show disabled software sources" is checked. With regard to your manually download comment, only a source is available, no binary.
[04:25] <CookedGryphon> I'm having trouble connecting to a windows share network, it used to work, then i upgraded to breezy and it asks me for a password where I didn't need one before, and when i put in my password for the network, it jstu does nothign and asks me for the password again. Any ideas how I can reset the settings or anythign?
[04:25] <mustard5> ryanmt, you using stand alone sound card or onboard sound?
[04:26] <Nail_Bunny> neologic_ update ur repos then
[04:26] <thoreauputic> !info gnome-pim
[04:26] <hyperactivecrond> !gnome-pim
[04:26] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: No idea
[04:26] <neologic_> Nail_Bunny, how? link?
[04:26] <ubotu> gnome-pim: (calendar and address book for GNOME), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.4.9-2.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 565 kB, Installed size: 2084 kB
[04:27] <Nail_Bunny> neologic_ try apt-get update
[04:27] <Nail_Bunny> neologic_ i had that exact same problem with this fresh install, it wasn't there until i did apt-get update
[04:28] <neologic_> Nail_Bunny, ok
[04:28] <theconartist> does anyone know what i would set for --x-includes on 5.10?
[04:29] <neologic_> Nail_Bunny, I ran apt-get update, it finished in a few seconds, and still no change...
[04:29] <neologic_> Nail_Bunny, well, sudo apt-get update
[04:29] <Nail_Bunny> neologic_ wat distro are you using of ubuntu
[04:30] <ISOcrates> thoreauputic: will ubuntu 5.10 i386 install on a powerbook?
[04:30] <ISOcrates> or do i need another disc
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> ISOcrates: no
[04:30] <CookedGryphon> please can someone help me, i need files off my network drive to do my work
[04:30] <thoreauputic> ISOcrates: no of course not :)
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> ISOcrates: you need the ppc version
[04:30] <neologic_> Nail_Bunny, hoary
[04:30] <thoreauputic> ISOcrates: you need the PPC version
[04:30] <ISOcrates> ok, where might i grab that?
[04:31] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: way ahead of me ;)
[04:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> ISOcrates: same place on the Ubuntu servers as the i386 bit
[04:31] <Nail_Bunny> neologic_ well, i had problems on hoary, many with apt-gettin/synaptic of programs, half them weren't there, i can't remember how i fixed it tho, my friend did something
[04:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: yeh, i don't have anyone to answer ;)
[04:31] <mustard5> ubotu: tell CookedGryphon about samba
[04:32] <CookedGryphon> mustard5: i know about samba
[04:32] <mustard5> CookedGryphon, what is your issue then?
[04:32] <CookedGryphon> it stopped working
[04:33] <CookedGryphon> it was working, and now it stopped when i upgraded to breezy and i dont know what it changed
[04:33] <hybrid_goth> eww
[04:33] <ISOcrates> thoreauputic: i just installed os x and i'm going to try to dual boot with ubuntu.  i only want to give ubuntu 10 gigs though.  can i do that and have it work?
[04:33] <theconartist> help me or, ill do it!
[04:33] <theconartist> i swear i will!
[04:33] <bur[n] er> ISOcrates: sure
[04:33] <mustard5> CookedGryphon, perhaps you can reinstall samba?
[04:33] <CookedGryphon> tried it
[04:34] <ryanmt> mustard5, im using a pci audigy2 ls
[04:34] <mustard5> CookedGryphon, k..keep trying for answers
[04:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> theconartist: do it then  :D
[04:34] <hybrid_goth> ISOcrates: yes
[04:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> enjoy portage
[04:34] <hybrid_goth> ISOcrates: i am doing that now
[04:34] <theconartist> Kamping_Kaiser, i do enjoy it as a matter of fact
[04:34] <ISOcrates> bur[n] er: cause i read somewhere the best way to get it to actually work is to allow ubuntu to use the remaining space
[04:34] <mustard5> ryanmt, ah ok..that eliminates it being a problem with onboard sound
[04:34] <ISOcrates> hybrid_goth: how is that going?
[04:34] <neologic_> Nail_Bunny, why won't ubuntu compile from source? what compiler does it use?are the cflags and everything specified?
[04:34] <jgedeon> CookedGryphon, This network drive.  What type of system is servinging it?
[04:35] <theconartist> anyway bbl
[04:35] <thoreauputic> ISOcrates: yes, you'll have about 7 or 8 gig left of 10
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> theconartist: yeh, i havent used it enouh to not like it :)
[04:35] <CookedGryphon> jgedeon: em, a windows one i assume
[04:35] <hybrid_goth> ISOcrates: awesome
[04:35] <thoreauputic> ISOcrates: ubuntu default install is about 1.8 G
[04:35] <hybrid_goth> ISOcrates: join ##apple and i will tell you all about it
[04:35] <ISOcrates> oh, good!  i will only give it 3 or 4GB then
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's a 1.6 gig install, + 200m for temp files
[04:35] <jgedeon> CookedGryphon, have you tried exploring the network and can you see the machine?
[04:35] <ISOcrates> hybrid_goth: ok
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> +swap
[04:36] <bluefrog-10> your shqre is on samba server or on a windows?
[04:36] <thoreauputic> ISOcrates: I suggest more than that - you want some room to play with :)
[04:36] <ISOcrates> ok cool
[04:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> ISOcrates: my Ubuntu install grew into a 10 gig partition and filled it
[04:37] <CookedGryphon> jgedeon: i cna't explore teh network any more
[04:37] <hybrid_goth> thoreauputic: bah i have ubuntu on 5 gb and mounting my OSX partition
[04:37] <bluefrog-10> I set up apt-proxy on breezy. using synaptic works (I have installed one package). Now I'd like to import the existing /var/cache/apt/archives into my /data/apt-proxy. When I do apt-proxy-import -r -i /var/cache/apt/archives it keeps telling me "no suitable backend found. What am I missing pls?
[04:37] <jgedeon> CookedGryphon, did you do an upgrade of fresh install?
[04:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> that's a point
[04:37] <CookedGryphon> upgrade
[04:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> make sure you format OS X to use a filesystem Ubuntu can write to
[04:38] <jgedeon> CookedGryphon, I had the same issue back with Hoary and ended up doing a fresh install after backing everything up and it magicly appeared.
[04:38] <thoreauputic> hybrid_goth: yes, you can do that too
[04:38] <thoreauputic> hybrid_goth: although I had some issues with OS-X mounting ext3
[04:38] <CookedGryphon> hmm, dont really want to do that tho, its a highly customised system and i dont have the time to reset evrythign
[04:38] <mustard5> ryanmt, this may be useless but it might help..I dont know..  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44115&highlight=speakers+volume
[04:38] <hybrid_goth> thoreauputic: :D I have Ubuntu mounting HFS+
[04:39] <thoreauputic> hybrid_goth: so do I :)
[04:39] <hybrid_goth> thoreauputic: it is fscking awesome! ;)
[04:39] <thoreauputic> hybrid_goth: it's mainly the reverse that has issues afaics
[04:39] <hybrid_goth> thoreauputic: i havent tried it but most likely
[04:39] <thoreauputic> hybrid_goth:  mac on linux is fun too :)
[04:40] <hybrid_goth> heh
[04:40] <thoreauputic> it's one way round the multimedia issue
[04:41] <sobersabre> Hi, where can I read about salary rates for unix/linux professionals - sysad/system programmers/kernel programmers/ , say in Australia, USA, New Zealand, etc., I prefer, pure income ( with reduced tax) numbers
[04:41] <xinel> dun suppose we have any programmers about who have used inline assembly in C?
[04:41] <hybrid_goth> heck yes it is
[04:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> sobersabre: intersting countries to pick
[04:41] <sobersabre> hmm, I don't care to have UK data too...
[04:41] <xinel> chucking asm infront of every command but i always get a syntax error :/
[04:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> sobersabre: sorry, i don't know off the top of my head. i would have to ask around (and take a day or t2)
[04:41] <sobersabre> Kamping_Kaiser, why "interesting" ?
[04:42] <DreamEater> http://pastebin.com/410978 1337 morsecode and binary script :D
[04:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> sobersabre: partly because i live in aust, and because your IP is not in one of those countries (it looks lik eitaly?)
[04:43] <sobersabre> Kamping_Kaiser it isn't italy. you know, there are utilities like host, nslookup, if you're so nosy
[04:43] <arnaud__> is there  a beginers ubuntu chanel ?
[04:43] <sobersabre> arnaud__ do you have any other questions ?
[04:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> sobersabre: I'm not particularly, but i do look at hostmasks as people join
[04:44] <arnaud__> I am trying to format an external usb disk
[04:44] <sobersabre> no prob, i am being nasty a bit, that's all ;)
[04:44] <arnaud__> I can't see it in /dev
[04:44] <sobersabre> arnaud__ and how are you doing it ?
[04:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> sobersabre: fair enough :)
[04:45] <hybrid_goth> thoreauputic: i wanted to cry untill i could play my music on my OSX partition with linuxc
[04:45] <sobersabre> Kamping_Kaiser so, how do all the above professions live like ... ? ok ? nice ?
[04:45] <GURT> can someone help me install createtorrent? when i ./config i get an error.. error, OpenSSL required but i'm pretty sure that i have openSSL installed
[04:45] <thoreauputic> hybrid_goth: heh - I enjoyed running windows media player in mol - it seemed so ironic ;)
[04:45] <dr_willis> GURT,  check that you have the openssl developer stuff also installed.
[04:45] <lalmeras> GURT, openssl-dev
[04:45] <arnaud__> it appears in /media, but the fdisk won't apply since I can't get the name
[04:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> sobersabre: i don't know many admins, but they don't get particularly special rates (the ones i know), but they can be paid a lot. as i said, i only know a few in aust
[04:46] <GURT> will check. thanks
[04:46] <thoreauputic> hybrid_goth: although vlc succeeds with a surprising number of formats
[04:46] <hybrid_goth> thoreauputic: lmfao
[04:46] <sobersabre> arnaud__ what are you talking about ?
[04:46] <hybrid_goth> thoreauputic: i love mplayer. compiled
[04:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. kim gets up to go to work in 4 hours. lol.
[04:47] <sobersabre>  /media is mounted media, fdisk should run on _unmounted_ device  /dev/sda or whatever,
[04:47] <thrush> arnaud__: when u type 'mount' do u see location?
[04:48] <aitor> hi
[04:48] <sobersabre> hybrid_goth, mplayer is such a great program, except it is single threaded... which kind'a sad...
[04:48] <GURT> looks like openssl-dev isn't in my package manager
[04:48] <aitor> need some help with digikam, anyone?
[04:48] <arnaud__> ok when typing mount I see a /dev/sda volume
[04:48] <aitor> I can't make it work with my cam since upgrading from hoary to breezy
[04:48] <sobersabre> arnaud__ then umount it!
[04:49] <hybrid_goth> sobersabre: yea, but i am sure if they werent threatened with lawsuits it would be more advanced now
[04:49] <sobersabre> only then you can fdisk
[04:49] <thrush> arnaud__: try unmounting it and using that
[04:49] <sobersabre> hybrid_goth no, it is yet another design stiffness.
[04:50] <sobersabre> hybrid_goth mplayer lead programmer is convinced that threads will introduced so much overheaed that ,... I don't know.
[04:50] <hybrid_goth> sobersabre: ah lol
[04:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> does mencoder thread?
[04:50] <tris622ph> how do i add screen resolution in screen resolution preference dialog i already add the screen resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. am i missing something?
[04:50] <sobersabre> there's multithreaded rewrite of mplayer, but it is called something like mplayer-xp ... i don't remember,
[04:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. sus as name
[04:51] <sobersabre> Kamping_Kaiser I don't know. I think it should parallelize.
[04:51] <arnaud__> ok I ll unmount it
[04:51] <sobersabre> arnaud__ thanks
[04:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> sobersabre: i would like it to, but I'm not a dev ;)
[04:52] <sobersabre> Kamping_Kaiser then become one
[04:52] <mustard5> ryanmt, you on hoary or breezy?
[04:52] <sobersabre> if you want to :)
[04:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> sobersabre: i cant program... yet....
[04:53] <zerotime> hi, how can I install ati fglrx drivers succesfully in a kubuntu breezy 5.10 64bit? I have tried many stuff, without success
[04:53] <Annasweety> My friend want to get in this channel whats the server name and ?
[04:53] <sobersabre> Kamping_Kaiser anyone can program
[04:53] <mustard5> ryanmt, I'm still mulling over this problem :)
[04:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> sobersabre: i have a website to write, then x86 assembly to learn, then I'm moving onto C++
[04:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> and python
[04:53] <Annasweety> My friend want to get in this channel whats the server name and ?
[04:53] <sobersabre> Kamping_Kaiser you're wrong :)
[04:54] <tris622ph> how do i add screen resolution in screen resolution preference dialog i already add the screen resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. am i missing something?
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Annasweety:  irc.freenode.net
[04:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> sobersabre: my bad ;)
[04:54] <tris622ph> i already restart x using alt+ctrl+backspc
[04:54] <sobersabre> Kamping_Kaiser learn structural language, like C or Pascal ( which is more structured )
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Annasweety: and #ubuntu of course
[04:54] <zerotime> can someone point me to a working tutorial on installing fglrx in kubuntu breezy 5.10 64bit?
[04:54] <Annasweety> ok
[04:54] <zerotime> must be a very common issue
[04:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> zerotime: try asking in #Kubuntu, they have more idea ab out that stuff
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Annasweety: tell your friend to register - /msg nickserv register <password>
[04:54] <Annasweety> ok
[04:55] <zerotime> oh thx this is ubuntu,... sorry
[04:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> no worries
[04:55] <sobersabre> Kamping_Kaiser the easiest, and the most comprehensible way of thinking is structural, then play with asm, whilst learning computer arch. and only then move to python, it is Object oriented enough and a great language for both scripts and programs.
[04:55] <ryanmt> mustard5, sorry was afk, its in the latest verison of breezy
[04:56] <anders__> !java
[04:56] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[04:56] <mustard5> ryanmt, its got me stumped :)
[04:56] <anders__> !javadeb
[04:56] <ubotu> I guess javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[04:56] <fmasi> i nead help in my adsl1 configuration whith pppoeconf and pon
[04:56] <ryanmt> same! everythings going well on my system apart from this and my dual monitor nightmare, if i could get these to sorted ill be so pleased
[04:56] <mustard5> ryanmt, you tried a post in the forums?
[04:56] <sobersabre> does anybody know how to restrict OpenOffice to be so greedy with my memory >?
[04:57] <sobersabre> ryanmt what is your graphic card ?
[04:57] <dooglus> sobersabre: it's just greedy.  ms office is a lot less hungry
[04:57] <sobersabre> dooglus that's why I got CrossOver Office 5
[04:57] <sobersabre> but that's a shame
[04:57] <sobersabre> to run MSIE on linux!
[04:57] <dooglus> sobersabre: it's a shame, but openoffice just isn't as good as ms office yet
[04:58] <sobersabre> and it runs :)
[04:58] <mustard5> ryanmt, this may be useless ..I dont know..  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44115&highlight=speakers+volume
[04:58] <ryanmt> im using a geforce2 and a SIS pci card, i have my dual monitors setup ok however the geforce2 one wont go upto 1600x1200 and the 2nd one has scan lines no matter what monitor/sync etc
[04:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> sobersabre: satanic :D
[04:58] <dooglus> sobersabre: I used to run MSIE on linux before the sites I use became standards compliant.  i don't need to any more though
[04:58] <ryanmt> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3834 this is my xorg.conf
[04:58] <Spy> xxxxxx
[04:58] <sobersabre> dooglus my bank uses MSIE site, which is _partially_ supported under firefox.
[04:59] <Spy> Hey Tribute
[04:59] <sobersabre> the prob is they won't put a penny to develop it more, and it is annoying not to be able to do certain things
[04:59] <Tribute> Hey Spy
[04:59] <NiLz> hi, has any1 had any success connecting nokia with dku2 cable in ubuntu?
[04:59] <KinkoBlast> Is there ANY way to run ActiveX controls on Ubuntu (Breezy)?
[04:59] <NiLz> I need some guides for this
[04:59] <ablyss> KinkoBlast, use wine
[04:59] <Nail_Bunny> how do you install a tar.gz file
[05:00] <sobersabre> KinkoBlast : Crossover Office/Wine -> Internet Explorer
[05:00] <sobersabre> Nail_Bunny what do you mean "install", how do you install a .zip file ?
[05:00] <KinkoBlast> Ablyss/Sobersabre: Too slow.
[05:00] <thoreauputic> Nail_Bunny: that depends if it is source code or what...
[05:00] <Nail_Bunny> nvm
[05:00] <Nail_Bunny> i found the problem
[05:00] <morgs^^> i have a ati Raedon installed and gnomes screensavers are still slow ... is that normal?
[05:00] <Fleischlego> Hi there. ;)
[05:00] <ablyss> KinkoBlast,  slow as in?
[05:01] <KinkoBlast> ablyss: As in it takes an hour to type a "t"
[05:01] <sobersabre> KinkoBlast, if IE doesn't check anything, at least wine does... thus the overhead...and if you MUST use activeX, WTF are you doing in ubuntu channel ?
[05:01] <vanberge> anybody know of an easy way to get quake 2 working?
[05:01] <norskfjord> How can I make my Ubuntu server cache all urls I visit from pcs on my network so they load faster?
[05:01] <KinkoBlast> sobersabre: ... I use ubuntu?
[05:01] <sobersabre> vanberge 1. get quake2 2. make glxgear run OK, 3. install quake2
[05:02] <KinkoBlast> sobersabre: I didn't know my library used ActiveX until after I removed windows!
[05:02] <vanberge> 1 = done.  2 = done.  im stuck on 3 sobersabre
[05:02] <CookedGryphon> OK, progress with my network drive problem, i can now browse the network
[05:02] <sobersabre> OK guys, I am off
[05:02] <vanberge> sobersabre, actually, i installed quake2 and quake2 data using apt.
[05:03] <zion115> OK i want to download Cedega isnt it free any1 know where i can get it?
[05:04] <Fleischlego> I got a strange problem here. While booting a hdd-error occurred and the disk is now mountet as read only. After some backup stuff I tried now "mount -o remount,rw /" but I it's still ro. Any idea how I get my write rights back? :)
[05:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> zion115: no, it's not free
[05:04] <thoreauputic> zion115: no it isn't free : and I guess google would know :)
[05:04] <norskfjord> How can I make remove gnome?
[05:04] <vgarcia> hello people
[05:04] <vgarcia> :)
[05:04] <vanberge> Fleischlego, boot indo recovery mode and fsck ??
[05:04] <zion115> damnt
[05:04] <zion115> o
[05:05] <nagual> has anybody here ever used vmware on ubuntu?
[05:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> norskfjord: you can use debfoster, but that's probably overkill ;). just remove everything based on gtk
[05:05] <halis> how can i install kernel (I download patch-2.6.14)
[05:05] <CookedGryphon> zion115: you can get the cvs version free
[05:05] <zion115> where?
[05:05] <ISOcrates> what do you guys use to burn ISOs?
[05:05] <norskfjord> HOW CAN I MAKE MY UBUNTU SERVER CACHE ALL URLS ACCESSED ON MY NETWORK SO THEY LOAD FASTER AND ALSO HOWTO REMOVE GNOME SO I HAVE ONLY CONSOLE?
[05:05] <Fleischlego> vanberge: Err, yes. That should work. :) lol, thanks. :)
[05:05] <mustard5> Fleischlego, you can't fsck a mounted drive, so probably best to use a LiveCD and try running fsck from there.
[05:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> norskfjord: don't yell
[05:06] <thoreauputic> norskfjord: don't shout
[05:06] <CookedGryphon> zion115: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[05:06] <CookedGryphon> tells you how
[05:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> ISOcrates: i use gnomes inbulit burning
[05:06] <norskfjord> I think I am being ignored
[05:06] <morgs^^> can i tune my ati card in ubunu?
[05:06] <zion115> fanx
[05:06] <Fleischlego> mustard5: Yes, maybe. Just thought there is another option but rebooting. :P
[05:06] <dr_willis> norskfjord,  after yelling like that.. its possible.
[05:07] <hybrid_goth> dr_willis: heh
[05:07] <vanberge> anybody could help me get quake2 working?  :-(
[05:07] <halis> kernel install - anybody??
[05:07] <mustard5> ubotu: tell morgs^^ about ati
[05:07] <NiLz> ok, how can I install kernel sources in ubuntu?
[05:07] <bluefrog-10> !apt-proxy
[05:07] <ubotu> bluefrog-10: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:07] <mustard5> NiLz, search for linux-source in syanptic?
[05:07] <vanberge> NiLz, apt-get install kernel-source ?
[05:07] <dell500> has anyone gotten a 5th gen ipod to work on ubuntu?
[05:07] <bunced> Nilz - do a search for kernel-source in Synaptic
[05:07] <mustard5> I was close :D
[05:07] <thoreauputic> no - linux-source is correct
[05:08] <mustard5> k
[05:08] <morgs^^> thanks
[05:08] <ISOcrates> Kamping_Kaiser: how do i get to that?
[05:08] <fmasi> i nead help in my adsl1 configuration whith pppoeconf and pon i geting /usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: unrecognized option '/dev/modem' every time i tipe pon after i kiled the net
[05:09] <Coburn> how can i convert .bin in a .deb package?
[05:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> ISOcrates: right click the iso and select burn to cd in breezy+dapper. not sure about Hoary
[05:09] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: works in hoary too
[05:09] <ISOcrates> ok nice, thanks
[05:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool. ta
[05:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: i only used Hoary for a week, i don't know how it works very well :0
[05:10] <Coburn> and how install java?????
[05:10] <JTHM> how do i run a flash file in ubuntu
[05:10] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: heh - you like to live on the edge?
[05:10] <mof_> hi
[05:10] <thoreauputic> !tell Coburn abut javadeb
[05:10] <JTHM> I have downloaded N the way of the ninja, and i extracted the folder, but the file n_v14 will not run
[05:10] <ISOcrates> is it pronounced oo-buntu or you-buntu??
[05:10] <NiLz> thanks
[05:10] <WildZeck> Coburn, apt-get install java
[05:11] <thoreauputic> ISOcrates: the former
[05:11] <mustard5> ISOcrates, oo
[05:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: yeh, if stuffs not breaking I'm not using the pc
[05:11] <linuxgeek2> I am looking for cool wallpapers
[05:11] <ISOcrates> k
[05:11] <linuxgeek2> where can I hunt them down
[05:11] <NiLz> how come I cannot compile anything
[05:11] <linuxgeek2> ?
[05:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> ISOcrates: oo-boon-too
[05:11] <NiLz> do I need some devel libraries or smth?
[05:11] <NiLz> could some1 please specify which?
[05:11] <EY_> hello everyone
[05:11] <ISOcrates> ah, oo-boon-too
[05:11] <thoreauputic> ISOcrates: actually nearer to oo-boon-too
[05:11] <ISOcrates> got it
[05:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> NiLz: not anything?
[05:11] <mustard5> NiLz, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:11] <_jason> linuxgeek2:  try deviantart
[05:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> got build-essential?
[05:11] <WildZeck> JTHM, i'll be on the shockwave site , to follow their installation doc for linux
[05:11] <dotrig> didnt saw the bittorrnado client i could install via package adding :D.
[05:11] <dr_willis> NiLz,  theres a meta-package that installs the basics - Build-essential
[05:11] <EY_> The Cisco AIronet 340 still refuses to cooperate.
[05:12] <NiLz> dr_willis, mustard5, Kamping_Kaiser thank u
[05:12] <thoreauputic> ISOcrates: http://foodfight.org/movies/Ubuntu%20Fanpeople/Jeff%20Waugh.ogg
[05:12] <thoreauputic> ISOcrates: ;-)
[05:12] <derderdaso> Hi @all
[05:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> your welcome NiLz
[05:13] <Decadent> hi, I've recenlty installed ubuntu 510 but I'm having a problem with the reposiories
[05:13] <mustard5> welcome derderdaso
[05:13] <Decadent> can anyone help??
[05:13] <mustard5> Decadent, what is your problem?
[05:13] <thoreauputic> !tell Decadent about repos
[05:13] <asdasd> How can I install an icon theme like this: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=14260 ?
[05:14] <NiLz> are kernel sources and headers added default into PATH?
[05:14] <Decadent> when im opening synaptic it tries to load all the repositories but it fails tou find
[05:14] <Decadent> some of them
[05:14] <NiLz> since one programme I am trying to compile complains about that it can't find usb.h
[05:14] <morgs^^> how do i find my kernal version ?
[05:14] <mustard5> Decadent, check pm from ubotu
[05:14] <thoreauputic> morgs^^:  uname -r
[05:14] <mustard5> morgs^^, uname -r
[05:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> NiLz: the soruce packages are extracted in $pwd
[05:14] <NiLz> Kamping_Kaiser: are they? :(
[05:14] <labandus> hi
[05:15] <labandus> i am new
[05:15] <arnaud__> still reading the doc, thanks to those who helped (sobersabre...)
[05:15] <labandus> here
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> NiLz: yeh, iiirc
[05:15] <NiLz> Kamping_Kaiser: so the same dir I run apt-get install linux-source from?
[05:15] <morgs^^> ;))
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> NiLz: they were when i used it last ;)
[05:15] <labandus> can i ask sommething??
[05:15] <thoreauputic> labandus: sure, just ask
[05:15] <mustard5> Decadent, also backports for breezy or not enabled yet, so if you are getting backports errors disable that repository
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> i `cd /usr/src/` before source downloads
[05:15] <asdasd> How can I install an icon theme like this: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=14260 ?
[05:16] <NiLz> Kamping_Kaiser: omfg, I don't remember where I run it from :(
[05:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[05:16] <labandus> i wanna know i can remove a Partion from my disk
[05:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> mmm. this chick is hot
[05:16] <labandus> with mkfs
[05:16] <thoreauputic> asdasd: most icon themes can just be dragged onto the themes dialogue
[05:16] <NiLz> Kamping_Kaiser: compiling something in ubuntu is difficult
[05:16] <asdasd> k thoreauputic i'll try
[05:16] <labandus> please help me
[05:16] <thoreauputic> labandus: wrong tool - use parted or gparted
[05:16] <glyn> ~pastebin
[05:16] <glyn> !pastebin
[05:16] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:16] <Decadent> oh
[05:16] <NiLz> Kamping_Kaiser: didn't have any successful compile yet :(
[05:16] <Decadent> i think that might be the problem
[05:17] <Coburn> i have slowly connection i have already .bin file of java but i would make .deb file
[05:17] <Decadent> because ive enabled all the repositories
[05:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> NiLz: :(
[05:17] <labandus> how can i use this parted or this "gparted"
[05:17] <thoreauputic> labandus: if you have the live breezy CD , gparted is on it
[05:17] <mustard5> Decadent, backports will not be up till Dapper development starts
[05:17] <linuxgeek2> Where can I find iftab file
[05:17] <NiLz> Kamping_Kaiser: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2 that's what I found
[05:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> is the package your compilingin the repostirories? then you should be able to `apt-get build-depends $appname` IIRC
[05:17] <labandus> i have a Ubuntu-kernel
[05:17] <Decadent> ok thanks
[05:17] <thoreauputic> labandus: gparted has a GUI ( a nice graphical interface)
[05:17] <linuxgeek2> I am searching it. I can't find it under /etc/iftab
[05:17] <mustard5> Decadent, np
[05:17] <Decadent> and something else
[05:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> NiLz: cool
[05:17] <mustard5> k
[05:17] <NiLz> Kamping_Kaiser: does it mean I have to decompress it myself?
[05:18] <NiLz> extract even
[05:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[05:18] <labandus> i know , but where can i get it?
[05:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> NiLz: untar ;)
[05:18] <jase> nto
[05:18] <Decadent> is there some way to install the java needed for azureus to run??
[05:18] <labandus> from the Os-CD
[05:18] <labandus> ??
[05:18] <labandus> or from another sources??
[05:18] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Decadent about javadeb
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[05:18] <JAVII> HELLO
[05:18] <jase> tonto
[05:18] <thoreauputic> labandus: it's in the live CD - it's also in th erepositories
[05:19] <mustard5> Decadent, try that one , I'm not really sure
[05:19] <thoreauputic> !info gparted
[05:19] <JAVII> I TU K
[05:19] <ubotu> gparted: (partition editor for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.0.8+cvs2005061901-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 236 kB, Installed size: 1260 kB
[05:19] <jase> hili
[05:19] <JAVII> OAJ
[05:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> JAVII: don't use caps
[05:19] <JAVII> I TU
[05:19] <erwin_> I need to get "tulip-fixes-for-uli5261.patch" for my onboard ethernet. I think it is not yet in Ubuntu. What can I do?
[05:19] <jase> no
[05:19] <JAVII> JASE K TAL
[05:19] <thoreauputic> JAVII: warning
[05:19] <labandus> i have the two CDs : the live and the installation cds
[05:20] <JAVII> PILIPONGO
[05:20] <thoreauputic> JAVII: you were warned
[05:20] <jase> you sily
[05:20] <mustard5> wish I could tell what language he was speaking thoreauputic :)
[05:20] <jase> seras tonto
[05:20] <thoreauputic> mustard5: tagalog ? I dunno
[05:20] <MaTaKs> i know that language, it's karamjan
[05:20] <jase> feo
[05:20] <thoreauputic> ah
[05:21] <jase> malo
[05:21] <mustard5> MaTaKs, where is that from?
[05:21] <MaTaKs> from Karamja Island
[05:21] <erwin_> I need to get "tulip-fixes-for-uli5261.patch" for my onboard ethernet. I think it is not yet in Ubuntu. What can I do?
[05:21] <mustard5> MaTaKs, indonesia?
[05:21] <MaTaKs> no
[05:21] <zion115> for some reason i get a CVS check out error when trying to install the profile?
[05:21] <mustard5> MaTaKs, I never heard of them :)
[05:21] <glyn> can anyone help me with a wine vb-related error? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3835
[05:22] <labandus> thoreauputic,  i wanna get also a File Sharing for my Os (Ubuntu) like edonkey mldonkey.. or something else
[05:22] <thoreauputic> labandus: yes you can get that
[05:22] <labandus> thoreauputic, where??
[05:23] <thoreauputic> labandus: have you installed ubuntu? Do you have your repositories enabled?
[05:23] <labandus> thoreauputic,  yes..
[05:23] <labandus> i'm working on Ubuntu..
[05:24] <land1> what are repositories?
[05:24] <thoreauputic> labandus: well, use the synaptic package manager, enter serch terms in the search field, and enjoy
[05:24] <mustard5> labandus, gtk-gnutella ?
[05:24] <thoreauputic> !tell land1 about repos
[05:24] <labandus> mustard5, gtk-gnutella ?? where can i get it??
[05:24] <mustard5> labandus, synaptic
[05:24] <thoreauputic> !info gtk-gnutella
[05:24] <ubotu> gtk-gnutella: (shares files in a peer to peer network), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.95.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1582 kB, Installed size: 5776 kB
[05:25] <NiLz> does any1 use a nokia phone with dku2 cable in ubuntu?
[05:25] <NiLz> I need advice how to make it work :)
[05:25] <MaTaKs> how can i install a graphic acceleration for my nvidia?
[05:25] <thoreauputic> labandus: it's in universe, as you see ^^^^
[05:25] <mustard5> MaTaKs, nividia driver from nvidia site
[05:25] <MaTaKs> ok thnx
[05:25] <thoreauputic> labandus: just open synaptic, enable repos, check what you want to install
[05:25] <labandus> mustard5, is there something else, that ican also get in Synaptics ??
[05:25] <mattbbx> Anyone know what that bar is next to to the text entry, under the nickname list
[05:26] <mustard5> MaTaKs, I believe 7667 is stable
[05:26] <mattbbx> In xchat
[05:26] <thoreauputic> labandus: there are over 17 000 packages
[05:26] <thoreauputic> !tell labandus about docs
[05:26] <mustard5> labandus, try searching for 'file share' or 'file sharing'
[05:26] <HiddenFly> with what command can one make a symbolic link=
[05:26] <HiddenFly> ?
[05:26] <mustard5> labandus, or 'peer to peer'
[05:26] <thoreauputic> labandus: read the URLs the bot sent you
[05:27] <Albaraha> When I run firefox, it doesn't display output in console when I run it. Is there any switch I have to pass to get it enabled?
[05:27] <nagual> can i install limewire by using apt-get install limewire?
[05:27] <labandus> thoreauputic, ok
[05:27] <mustard5> nagual, no
[05:27] <nagual> I have to get it from the limewire site huh.
[05:27] <mustard5> nagual, there is info on forums concerning limewire
[05:27] <linuxgeek2> nagual, try gtk-gnutella
[05:28] <labandus> mustard5,  how is it work , this Peer to peer file tranfer, do i need a application for this ?
[05:28] <linuxgeek2> It's like limewire
[05:28] <toogreen> hi, I have installed 5.10 and my system is terribly slow... i can hear the hard drive working all the time ... any ideas whats wrong?
[05:28] <mustard5> labandus, yes you do
[05:28] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[05:28] <thoreauputic> OK sign of and sleep time - have fun :)
[05:28] <mustard5> labandus, install gtk-gnutella its easy to install and it works :)
[05:28] <mustard5> cya thoreauputic
[05:28] <mustard5> :)
[05:28] <thoreauputic> goodnight
[05:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> night thoreauputic ;)
[05:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> sleep well
[05:28] <erwin_> How can I figure out which patches are included in my kernel version?
[05:30] <labandus> mustard5,  i don't find it in Synapticspaketadministration..
[05:30] <mustard5> labandus, I would think then that you have not yet enabled extra repositories
[05:30] <mustard5> ubotu: tell labandus about repos
[05:30] <mustard5> check pm from ubotu and follow the instructions
[05:31] <nekron> what file the program "bum" check?
[05:31] <toogreen> hi, I have installed 5.10 and my system is terribly slow... i can hear the hard drive working all the time ... any ideas whats wrong?
[05:31] <bluefrog-10> I need someone who installed apt-proxy on Breezy and successfully imported its /var/cache/apt/archives pls
[05:31] <nekron> to start programs in boot
[05:31] <ddew|bofh> Hey, is there a specific channel for ubuntu/ppc64 or can I ask here?
[05:31] <inittab> does Breezy not have a libasound2-plugins? says its refrenced by another package but could not be found
[05:32] <mustard5> ddew|bofh, I think there is but I don't know what its called
[05:32] <kreek> Whats the Command for the "Computer" Symbol ? How can i open it in the terminal ?
[05:32] <Coburn>  fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[05:32] <Coburn> bash: fakeroot: command not found
[05:32] <Coburn>  whyyyyy?????
[05:32] <ddew|bofh> mustard5: CHeers
[05:32] <mustard5> ddew|bofh, try searching channels
[05:32] <SamanthaGothLove> #DamnSmallLinux
[05:32] <kreek> Whats the Command for the "Computer" Symbol ? How can I open it per command ?
[05:33] <erwin_> It's my first time in an IRC. Sorry for the question, bu can somebody hear me?
[05:33] <linuxgeek2> welcome erofrai
[05:33] <kyrnado> erwin_: yup
[05:33] <linuxgeek2> welcome erwin_
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> kreek: don't flood/repeat
[05:33] <dducko> erofrai, yes
[05:33] <nekron> what file the program "bum" check? to star programs in boot..
[05:33] <nekron> *start
[05:33] <kreek> what is the command Kamping_Kaiser
[05:33] <wactuary> toogreen, try adding the system monitor to your panel and see what is running.
[05:33] <labandus> mustard5, why do i need this repositories??
[05:33] <electron> hi, I installed eggdrop via apt but I can't find the config file :/
[05:33] <zion115> any1 know of WineCVS?
[05:33] <mustard5> labandus, because that is where gtk-gnutella is
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> kreek: i don't know
[05:33] <linuxgeek2> Hey guys I downloaded wine emulator via apt
[05:34] <linuxgeek2> How do I run exe file with that
[05:34] <Coburn>  fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[05:34] <Coburn> bash: fakeroot: command not found
[05:34] <Coburn>  why???????
[05:34] <linuxgeek2> ?
[05:34] <glyn> is there a command to keep a window open that keeps closing automatically?
[05:34] <wactuary> toogreen, you could also open a terminal and run the command top
[05:34] <mustard5> kreek, what are you trying to do?
[05:34] <kreek> i'll link it in my starter bar
[05:34] <kreek> gDesklets
[05:34] <mustard5> ah ok
[05:34] <glyn> is there a command to keep a window open that keeps closing automatically??
[05:35] <mustard5> so you want it to open your filesystem in a gui?
[05:35] <kreek> yes
[05:35] <zion115> LinuxGeek : suppose to work when you click on it
[05:35] <labandus> mustard5, ok
[05:35] <Coburn> anybody help me???
[05:35] <Abbywood> hello all
[05:35] <linuxgeek2> zion115, huh ? How ?
[05:35] <linuxgeek2> U mean the exe file
[05:35] <zion115> ya
[05:35] <mustard5> kreek, I would think nautilus would be related to that mayb eread the nautilus manual?  type 'man nautilus' ?
[05:35] <Coburn>  fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[05:35] <Coburn> bash: fakeroot: command not found
[05:35] <ddew|bofh> Anyone here run ubuntu on a powermac?
[05:35] <electron> :)
[05:36] <_jason> Coburn:  I think you have to isntall fakeroot
[05:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> ddew|bofh: yeh, just a bit
[05:36] <mirak> is there a gnome too  to manage SSH KEYS ?
[05:36] <Coburn> mmmmmm
[05:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> you mean the old world macs?
[05:36] <vanberge> Coburn, apt-get install fakeroot
[05:36] <mirak> is there a gnome tool  to manage SSH KEYS ?
[05:36] <ddew|bofh> Kamping_Kaiser: g4 or g5?
[05:36] <Coburn> with syanptic???
[05:36] <mustard5> Coburn, sudo apt-get install fakeroot
[05:36] <Coburn> ok
[05:36] <Coburn> thx
[05:36] <Coburn> thx
[05:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> ddew|bofh: g3 imac
[05:36] <Coburn> thx
[05:36] <_jason> Coburn:  did you do this line in the wiki: sudo apt-get install fakeroot  java-package java-common
[05:36] <zion115> linuxgeek if wine is properly installed i t should work
[05:36] <mirak> ddew|bofh: I am
[05:36] <ddew|bofh> Kamping_Kaiser: ok
[05:36] <labandus> mustard5,  i  already read the web-site, but i'm still not understanding ,how to add these repositories
[05:36] <ddew|bofh> mirak: g5?
[05:37] <mustard5> labandus, one tick I will just read the guide
[05:37] <mirak> ddew|bofh: G3 and G4
[05:37] <ddew|bofh> *groan*
[05:37] <ufc> sudo gdmsetup >  Could not access GDM configuration file. where can I find GDM config?
[05:37] <mustard5> labandus, did you read this? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:37] <ddew|bofh> I'm having major issues with a dp g5
[05:37] <labandus> mustard5,  ok i do
[05:37] <mirak> is there a gnome tool  to manage SSH KEYS ?
[05:38] <mustard5> ufc, what are you trying to do?
[05:38] <_jason> mirak:  seahorse but the kde app is better kgpg
[05:38] <inittab> can anybody tell me what package should have this file under breezy, from what ive found it should be under libasound2-plugins but breezy does not have this package Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_jack.so
[05:39] <inlivingcolour> hello everyone
[05:39] <linuxgeek2> hi
[05:39] <mirak> _jason: thanks
[05:39] <mustard5> inittab, have you tried packages.ubuntu.com ?
[05:39] <ufc> mustard5:  well I cannot logon with xserver... so I am tryingn to get the logon setup so it comes up with that
[05:39] <mustard5> inittab, it lists all the packages
[05:39] <wactuary> Having trouble burning to rewrite CD.  Media says "1-4x", but cdrecord is claiming it's "fast medium in a slow drive".
[05:39] <kyrnado> !nautilus
[05:39] <ubotu> No idea, kyrnado
[05:39] <labandus> mustard5,  i 'm reading that thanks ..
[05:39] <wactuary> Does anyone know what I should check?
[05:40] <mustard5> labandus, come back if you have problems
[05:40] <ufc> xserver dos not understand my keyboard so I dont have all my keyboard char
[05:40] <inittab> ive looked
[05:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> wactuary how long does it take to burn a cd?
[05:40] <ufc> -xserver +gnome logon
[05:40] <inittab> it doesnt mention that file or libasound2-plugins for breezy
[05:40] <mustard5> ufc, hmmm...sounds like its over my head soz
[05:40] <inlivingcolour> im getting a dpkg --configure -a message.  how do i stop the installation im getting that message for?
[05:40] <mustard5> ufc, keep trying
[05:40] <ufc> mustard5: hahah
[05:40] <_jason> mirak:  i misread your question, sry I was on the phone... those apps are for PGP
[05:40] <inittab> if i try to apt-get install libasound2-plugins i get "this package is refrenced from another package but could not be found"
[05:41] <_jason> mirak:  err GPG...
[05:41] <wactuary> It never burns.  Quits before writing anything.  Writing to a CDR went at 8x.
[05:41] <ufc> why dont you use aptitide?
[05:41] <bastardkestrel> help
[05:41] <inittab> i dont like gui's too much
[05:41] <bastardkestrel> i cant log onto ubuntu or kubuntu anymore??
[05:41] <vanberge> wactuary, you might have to set dma
[05:41] <ufc> aptitude
[05:41] <labandus> mustard5, Eureka i  got it
[05:42] <mirak> _jason: ah I want for ssh, to put keys on other computers etcetera
[05:42] <mustard5> labandus, good work
[05:42] <inittab> searched for libasound2-plugins under aptitude.
[05:42] <inittab> nothing.
[05:42] <labandus> mustard5, thanks man
[05:42] <bastardkestrel> i need to get a contact out of evolution help?
[05:42] <mustard5> labandus, np
[05:42] <bastardkestrel> i cant log in
[05:42] <inittab> nothing for libasound_module
[05:42] <bastardkestrel> the screen restarts back to log in
[05:42] <mustard5> inittab, I can only find libasound
[05:42] <mustard5> libasound2 actually
[05:42] <inittab> yes i know
[05:43] <inittab> but apparently libasound2-plugins existed in hoary etc
[05:43] <inittab> and i need that file :)
[05:43] <Coburn85>  line 150: make-jpkg: command not found
[05:43] <bastardkestrel> can someone help me fix my log in screen??
[05:43] <Coburn85> aaaaaaaa
[05:43] <mustard5> inittab, try adding hoary-extras?  no guarantees on breaking your computer :)
[05:43] <Kelsey23> is there software I can use to mount/rip a Mac OS CD in Ubuntu GNU/Linux?
[05:43] <Jaime> hi!
[05:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> Coburn85: your missing pacakges :D
[05:43] <jbrouhard> Anyone here know of a good "Virtual PC" software that Ubuntu has ?
[05:43] <wactuary> Trying that.  I had done that last night, but lost the setting on reboot.  How do I make it default to mdma2 and dma on?
[05:43] <jbrouhard> I'm in need of it.
[05:44] <inittab> bleh. its not worth messing up my install
[05:44] <bastardkestrel> hi
[05:44] <Kelsey23> amyone???
[05:44] <inittab> it just kinda sucks
[05:44] <dr_willis> Kelsey23,  'dd' should be able to make an image.. but what ya going to do with it later>
[05:44] <ufc> This is my problem >  http://koti.mbnet.fi/unf/IMG_1807.jpg
[05:44] <imterro> hmm thismay sound really stupid, but is it possible to get spyware on linux?
[05:44] <bastardkestrel> can someone help me fix my log in screen?
[05:44] <dr_willis> imterro,  not really.
[05:44] <mustard5> imterro, not really
[05:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> imterro: not yet
[05:44] <dr_willis> :)
[05:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[05:44] <mustard5> heh
[05:44] <Kelsey23> @dr_willis give it to a friend he has the same iMac is me but his software restore CD broke
[05:44] <mustard5> bastardkestrel, what is happening?
[05:45] <imterro> ha thanks
[05:45] <Kelsey23> so dd will mount Mac OS format disks?
[05:45] <inlivingcolour> how do i stop an install in terminal so i wont get the dpkg --configure -a message?
[05:45] <bastardkestrel> mustard5: thanks, im a little desperate as i got a contact i need from evolution
[05:45] <_jason> mirak:  don't know about that, synaptic lists "keychain" as something that might do that though
[05:45] <dr_willis> Kelsey23,  no.. dd will make an IMAGE file of that disk.
[05:45] <vanberge> wactuary, there is a hdparm.conf file
[05:45] <Kelsey23> ok thanks
[05:45] <KinkoBlast> Kelsey23: Ubuntu suports HFS+. yes
[05:45] <bastardkestrel> mustard5: when i get to log in it accepts user and pass
[05:45] <mustard5> bastardkestrel, I don't know if I can help you yet...what is actually happening? :)
[05:45] <mustard5> k
[05:46] <bastardkestrel> mustard5: it acts like it starts but goes back to log in screen
[05:46] <topyli> ufc: what is the "default" command it runs then? just a regular gnome session?
[05:46] <labandus> mustard5, i wanna send a search for a file for example (mp3, avi, ...), how??
[05:46] <wactuary> vanberge, setting DMA didn't fix it (but did fix another error of "resid: 6440" or something that didn't seem to cause a problem, but fillied the screen.
[05:46] <bastardkestrel> mustard5: when i try kubuntu i get an error
[05:46] <wactuary> vanberg, I'll add to hdparm.conf.
[05:46] <mustard5> labandus type the add the text 'mp3 to your search
[05:46] <bastardkestrel> mustard5: no write access to /home/thom/.ICEauthority
[05:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> bastardkestrel: have you been typing 'sudo $programname'
[05:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> ?
[05:47] <wactuary> Kamping_Kaiser, tried again, Writing time: 0.274s 0 puts and gets. fifo 0 times full.
[05:47] <necator> ive followed the ubuntu starter guide on how to install limewire and it seems everythign went ok but when i run the program nothing happens..
[05:47] <bastardkestrel> mustard5: maybe
[05:47] <mustard5> bastardkestrel, another problem that looks beyond my ability..doh...I'm not having any luck...keep asking others
[05:48] <Coburn85>  fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[05:48] <bastardkestrel> Kamping_Kaiser: wjat do you mean?
[05:48] <Coburn85> /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found
[05:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> bastardkestrel: what are the permissions on the file?
[05:48] <Coburn85> fakeroot is ok and now.........
[05:48] <bastardkestrel> Kamping_Kaiser: on what file, I can get in
[05:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> the file should be owned by you and have 700 set for it's permissions
[05:48] <dreumah> hi i am getting a k3b burning error
[05:48] <labandus> where the file will be saved , after the Download??
[05:48] <topyli> bastardkestrel: delete your .ICEauthority file. you may also need to delete ICE related files in /tmp (those owned by you). you can't do this in X so switch to a console
[05:48] <mustard5> labandus, in your /home/gtk-gnutella/complete directory
[05:48] <Coburn85> last help please!!!!!!!
[05:49] <bastardkestrel> topyli: ok
[05:49] <dreumah> mkisofs gives an unknown error
[05:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> Coburn85: check you have the fakerooot package installed
[05:49] <bastardkestrel> topyli: how could this have ahppened, i only installed quake 3
[05:49] <dreumah> please help
[05:49] <jbrouhard> BBIAF.. Fluxbox acting ape on me.
[05:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> bastardkestrel: have you launched k3b or similar with sudo?
[05:49] <Albaraha> dreumah, did you try to use dd?
[05:49] <electron> hi, I installed eggdrop via apt but I can't find the config file :/
[05:49] <Coburn85> yesi installed
[05:50] <labandus> mustard5,  and the temporally files??
[05:50] <Coburn85> yes is installed
[05:50] <max> Hello!
[05:50] <labandus> mustard5,  where is the saving??
[05:50] <bastardkestrel> Kamping_Kaiser: no
[05:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[05:50] <topyli> bastardkestrel: it has happened to me a couple of times. it's very annoying. i think it may happen when you run X programs via sudo
[05:50] <max> Can anyone here give me a bit of help installing RubyOnRails?
[05:50] <mustard5> labandus, gtk-gnutella directory contains three directories...complete ..incomplete..and corrupted
[05:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> bastardkestrel: ok. that's a common cause of your problem
[05:50] <topyli> bastardkestrel: or it may happen whenever X  is in a bad mood :)
[05:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> topyli: that's exactly what causes it
[05:50] <bastardkestrel> topyli: not good
[05:51] <Albaraha> electron, did you to read the README file?
[05:51] <pkern> Where could I retrieve the netinstall cdr image with ~8 Mb?
[05:51] <max> ruby/rubygems/ruby on rails?
[05:51] <electron> where is it?
[05:51] <mark__> hiya
[05:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> topyli: bastardkestrel, to launch gui apps use gksudo
[05:51] <Xandor> Any one here got LILO working instead of grub?
[05:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi mark__
[05:51] <mark__> how do you edit a read only file in ubuntu....... ?
[05:51] <bastardkestrel> Kamping_Kaiser: ok , maybe it was quake3
[05:51] <topyli> bastardkestrel: not a big problem when you find what files to delete, but it's an annoyance for sure
[05:51] <Coburn85> yes is installed
[05:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> mark__: er....
[05:51] <mustard5> mark__, sudo gedit pathtofilename
[05:51] <bastardkestrel> topyli: im pissed
[05:51] <Coburn85> kaiser
[05:51] <Ivan> list
[05:51] <mark__> k
[05:52] <yellowbm> Hi, i am trying to make a connection with my access point. The problem is with the WPA. I tried wpa_supplicant, but it says "Unsupported driver 'bcmwl5'.". It's the driver from my Dell 8500 (Truemobile 1300 b/g). Is it really not possible?
[05:52] <bastardkestrel> topyli: so i should just delete .ICE stuff
[05:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> Coburn85: i havent used fakeroot, so i don't know what you need. all i know is your missing a pacakage
[05:52] <Coburn85> kaiser ...........
[05:52] <mustard5> mark__, you using gnome I take it?
[05:52] <topyli> bastardkestrel: yes, when you're not in X
[05:52] <Coburn85> ok
[05:52] <Coburn85> thx
[05:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> bastardkestrel: yeh, delete the .ICE* file from your home
[05:52] <bastardkestrel> topyli: ok ill try that
[05:52] <topyli> bastardkestrel: might as well get rid of .Xauthority too
[05:52] <mustard5> yellowbm, have you read the wiki how to's?
[05:52] <bastardkestrel> Kamping_Kaiser: thanks
[05:53] <bastardkestrel> topyli: thanks
[05:53] <mof_> bye
[05:53] <mark__> awesome thanks Kamping_Kaiser
[05:53] <mark__> u rock
[05:53] <yellowbm> musard5, yes i try to follow the wiki howto
[05:53] <mark__> l8rz
[05:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[05:53] <Xandor> Any one here using LILO boot loader?
[05:53] <Stormx2> What is Dapper?
[05:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> Stormx2: Ubuntu unstable
[05:54] <yellowbm> i ended up with the command: sudo wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D bcmwl5 -w -dd
[05:54] <yellowbm>  and it says: Initializing interface 'wlan0' conf '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf' driver 'bcmwl5'
[05:54] <yellowbm> Unsupported driver 'bcmwl5'.
[05:54] <darksatanic> Stormx2: The next version of Ubuntu
[05:55] <mustard5> yellowbm, hmmm..I'm not sure..others might know better
[05:55] <Coburn85>  Impossibile ottenere il lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:55] <mustard5> Coburn, close synaptic?
[05:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> good night all
[05:55] <mustard5> Kamping_Kaiser, nite
[05:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> or should i say good morning :(
[05:55] <Stormx2> remind me of the command to install .devs?
[05:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> night mustard5 :)
[05:55] <mustard5> :)
[05:55] <Stormx2> night
[05:55] <Stormx2> ^_^
[05:55] <Coburn85> no aaaa sorry
[05:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> Stormx2: .debs? dpkg -i
[05:56] <Stormx2> yeah sorry. Typo >.>
[05:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> 3.30 am. good time for sleep ;)
[05:56] <Xandor> see ya Kaiser
[05:56] <Stormx2> Thanks alot :)
[05:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> good luck. have rfun all
[05:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[05:56] <mustard5> will do :D
[05:56] <Xandor> No one here has LILO boot loader?
[05:56] <mustard5> Xandor, doesnt seem like
[05:57] <erwin_> How difficult is compiling the a patched kernel module myself?
[05:57] <mattbbx> I used to use it
[05:57] <mustard5> Xandor, ask again later maybe?
[05:57] <electron> how do I search for a file?
[05:57] <mattbbx> When I had knoppix i had lilo
[05:57] <Xandor> mattbbx, did you get it to work over grub?
[05:57] <mattbbx> Installing over grub?
[05:57] <mustard5> Xandor, you mean 'instead of grub' ?
[05:57] <Coburn85> java is very hard to install
[05:58] <Xandor> Yes.
[05:58] <FunnyLookinHat> if my trash can icon dissapeared from my screen near the desktop selector, how do i get it back?
[05:58] <mattbbx> i have grub now, Lilo was slightly problem causing
[05:58] <mattbbx> Its partition-picky
[05:58] <mustard5> FunnyLookinHat, right click on the bottom bar and add applet
[05:58] <mustard5> FunnyLookinHat, look for trashcan applet
[05:58] <electron> there is no eggdrop.conf
[05:58] <imterro> hmm, for some reason the 'eye' key on my keyboard has stopped workng, 'eye' know that t's workng because when 'eye' went to the keyboard shortcuts and pressed the 'eye', there was a result but the result was "0x1f" can anyone help??
[05:58] <mattbbx> I think the Ubuntu Install cd can install Lilo
[05:59] <Xandor> I installed a new kernel but can't seem to add it to grub correctly, but have instructions on adding it to LILO
[05:59] <Linuxdogmatiker> is the ubuntu installer able to make a ntfs-partition smaller?
[05:59] <mustard5> Linuxdogmatiker, probably best to partion from windows
[05:59] <FunnyLookinHat> mustard5, thanks!
[06:00] <mustard5> Linuxdogmatiker, I'm hesistant to make suggestions for NTFS
[06:00] <sazwerx> hi all.. how to burn ISO in Hoary?
[06:00] <mattbbx> Xandor: I don't know what to tell you for that, sorry
[06:00] <Xandor> That's alright.
[06:00] <Jhair> when trying to burn an ISO image with gnomebaker (breezy):
[06:00] <Jhair> jtocancipa@golem:~$ gnomebaker
[06:00] <Jhair> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[06:01] <Linuxdogmatiker> hi SeriousHunter
[06:01] <Xandor> Can anyone tell me then where to get the source for 2.6.12-9-386, it MUST be -9-386
[06:01] <SeriousHunter> test
[06:01] <Linuxdogmatiker> mustard5: so is this possible?
[06:01] <fy_> http://en.hallowin.org/2/WOOOW.jpg
[06:01] <SeriousHunter> hiho
[06:01] <Coburn85> in the past i lunch .bin file of java and it is installed but in synaptic dont appear how can i remove the installation of bin file
[06:01] <deFrysk> Xandor, linux-source
[06:01] <frank23> did the US change their time-change date yet?
[06:01] <Linuxdogmatiker> SeriousHunter: oi
[06:01] <Lin> hello there. this channel is growing.
[06:02] <Lin> Linuxdogmatiker, SeriousHunter  speak in english please.
[06:02] <_jason> frank23:  not yet
[06:02] <Xandor> deFrysk, if that is to search for it on my computer, I already have and can't find it.
[06:02] <mustard5> Linuxdogmatiker, I know that linux can't write to NTFS, so I wonder what damage you might do partioning from linux
[06:02] <Coburn85> yea groeing users of ubuntu
[06:02] <Coburn85> im a newbye
[06:02] <Coburn85> i hate windows system
[06:02] <deFrysk> Xandor, should be in /usr/src/ if its installed
[06:03] <frank23> _jason: ok
[06:03] <mustard5> Xander, the kernels for 2.6.12-9-386 are in synaptic aren't they?
[06:03] <Coburn85> in the past i lunch .bin file of java and it is installed but in synaptic dont appear how can i remove the installation of bin file
[06:03] <Coburn85> ????????
[06:03] <_jason> frank23:  I think it has been passed into law but i don't know when it takes effect
[06:03] <Xandor> I'll try again, hold on a few minutes.
[06:04] <Lin> After upgrade my hoary to Breezy, my nvidia drivers are not compatible with Xorg nvidia driver. Kernel: 2.6.12-9-k7 / X Window System Version 6.8.2 (Ubuntu 6.8.2-77 20051010174523 root@vernadsky.buildd). Ideas?
[06:04] <MenZa`> Update :S?
[06:05] <mustard5> Xandor, apt-cache search linux-source
[06:05] <mustard5>  gives me something ..is this what you need?
[06:05] <Lin> nvidia version: NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-7667
[06:05] <DukeNukem> Hi. I'm looking for the OpenGL API man pages, but I haven't been able to find them in any package :[ where are they?
[06:06] <Xandor> Okay, here's my problem, I'm trying to install the NVidia driver but it needs something from the source code in order to install. Will this linux-image02.6.12-9-386 give it what it needs?
[06:06] <Lin> DukeNukem: use apt-file to search them.
[06:06] <deFrysk> Xandor, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:06] <Lin> Xandor: aptitude install nvidia-glx
[06:06] <deFrysk> Xandor, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:06] <deFrysk> Xandor, thats all , then restart x
[06:06] <Coburn85> sorry but in the past i lunch .bin file of java and it is installed but in synaptic dont appear how can i remove the installation of bin file
[06:07] <Xandor> deFrysk, thanks alot, I'll try it.
[06:07] <mustard5> Lin, you using 'vesa' now?
[06:07] <Lin> deFrysk: what nvidi-glx-config does?
[06:07] <Lin> mustard5: no. nv.
[06:07] <mustard5> k
[06:07] <deFrysk> Lin, a script to set up nvidia in xorg en puts the module in /etc/modules
[06:08] <_jason> Coburn85:  you want to remove java?
[06:08] <Lin> mustard5: nv there isn't gl drivers to run celestia, and those nice thigs.
[06:08] <Lin> deFrysk: Ok. nothing new. Just user friendly.
[06:08] <deFrysk> Lin, and modprobes it for you too even ;)
[06:08] <mustard5> Lin, I'm not sure about your solution, but I can tell you its not the first time I have seen it
[06:09] <Coburn85> i want to remove installation of bin file because it dont appear in synaptic
[06:09] <Xandor> deFrysk, sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[06:09] <Lin> mustard5: I'm not. Everytime that I update kernel in ubuntu, this happens. I don't want compile the sources. I'm running ubuntu to didn't do that.
[06:09] <deFrysk> Xandor, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx first
[06:09] <mustard5> Coburn85, you need to find the uninstall instructions for the .bin from where you got it from It would think
[06:09] <Xandor> I did.
[06:09] <Lin> Xandor: you didn't.
[06:09] <BassHombre> I can suspend my laptop from the GNOME log out menu, but the ACPI sleep.sh script doesn't work.
[06:09] <Lin> Xandor: nvidia-glx provides that binary
[06:10] <deFrysk> and sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:10] <Lin> Xandor: dpkg -l nvidia-glx
[06:10] <Xandor> I did do it.
[06:10] <BassHombre> This seems to be a common problem (judging by the forums), but no one seems to have found a solution
[06:10] <Xandor> Alright.
[06:10] <deFrysk> Xandor, you forgot ENABLE!
[06:10] <deFrysk> and sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:10] <Lin> Xandor: and paste nvidia-glx line here.
[06:10] <BassHombre> What script / program does the log out menu run?
[06:10] <Lin> deFrysk: Command not found error. :-/
[06:10] <Coburn85> ok
[06:10] <Coburn85> thx
[06:10] <Coburn85> again
[06:10] <mustard5> BassHombre, I'm not sure
[06:10] <Lin> deFrysk: enable will not help ;-D
[06:10] <Xandor> I used enable.
[06:10] <Xandor> Hold on.
[06:10] <Lin> Xandor: ok
[06:10] <deFrysk> wierd
[06:11] <mirak> _jason: secpanel does it fine
[06:11] <Coburn85> cumunity mantained universe
[06:11] <_jason> mirak:  thanks I can use a program like that too
[06:11] <Coburn85> if i would  buy an hp notebook with ubuntu i can ???
[06:11] <Xandor> xandor16@Lucy:~$ dpkg -l nvidia-glx
[06:11] <Xandor> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[06:11] <Xandor> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
[06:11] <Xandor> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[06:11] <Xandor> ||/ Name           Version        Description
[06:11] <Xandor> +++-[06:11] <Xandor> un  nvidia-glx     <none>         (no description available)
[06:11] <Xandor> Sorry for spam.
[06:11] <Lin> Xandor: is not instaled
[06:11] <Coburn85> in google there is the news
[06:11] <Lin> Xandor: and I said. ONLY nvidia-glx line.
[06:11] <Coburn85> but is official
[06:12] <Lin> Xandor: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
[06:12] <Xandor>   Installed: (none)
[06:12] <Xandor> But I did run the commnand yall gave me.
[06:13] <Lin> Xandor: you should add restricted repositories in you sources.
[06:13] <Lin> Xandor: you ubuntu update manager to do that.
[06:13] <deFrysk> !tell Xandor about repos
[06:13] <me_> anybody want to help me to get dual monitors on my 9800pro working?
[06:13] <me_> lol
[06:13] <mustard5> Xandor, enable repositores and then try again
[06:13] <Xandor> Alright, one minute.
[06:13] <deFrysk> Xandor, read ubotu's message
[06:13] <deFrysk> just in case
[06:14] <Lin> Then.. if nobody could help me with nvidia/X version mismatch, I will leave now. Thank you all. Xandor read the manuals ;-D
[06:14] <electron> how do I search for a file in linux?
[06:14] <suresh00_> Electron, find
[06:14] <mustard5> Lin, somebody must know somewhere..I have seen so many people with your problem :)
[06:15] <maxmit> RubyGems/Ruby On Rails anyone?
[06:15] <electron> find: eggdrop.conf: No such file or directory
[06:15] <suresh00_> electron, if u use gnome, there is one in menu
[06:15] <Xandor> I just did a search in Synaptic and it said nvidia-glx was not installed so I installed it, I'll try the config like again.
[06:15] <electron> there is not config file for eggdrop
[06:15] <electron> nah, I don't have X
[06:15] <mustard5> Xandor, good work :)
[06:15] <dr_willis> electron,  perhaps theres a sample config youneed to rename/copy
[06:15] <Lin> another last question. Which package enable bootsplash in ubuntu? Should I config something to get this working in a hoary->breezy environment?
[06:16] <electron> where?
[06:16] <Lin> bootsplash == kernel bootsplash.
[06:16] <electron> it's strange, I think I have found bug
[06:16] <electron> I downloaded it with aptitude
[06:16] <Xandor> I already changed the xorg.config file. I guess I'll have to enter the driver myself, it's still just nvidia right?
[06:16] <stpere> Lin, I think it's called usplash
[06:17] <Coburn85> yessssss iscreating java package
[06:17] <mustard5> Xandor, you have run the sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ?
[06:17] <Coburn85> thx to all
[06:17] <Xandor> Yes one minute and I'll post the error.
[06:17] <mustard5> Xandor, wait....
[06:17] <Xandor> ?
[06:17] <electron> find doesn't work
[06:17] <Lin> mustard5: I know. I know.. I want a simple solution, not a hacker solution.
[06:17] <bluefrog-10> I need someone who installed apt-proxy on Breezy and successfully imported its /var/cache/apt/archives pls
[06:17] <electron> don't give up
[06:18] <mustard5> Xandor in your xorg.conf it shows you how to reset it doesnt it?  In the first few lines?
[06:18] <Nei> what is a usuable icq client?
[06:18] <Xandor> Oh.
[06:18] <Nei> gaim simply doesn't display messages with umlauts
[06:18] <Xandor> mustard5 Thanks, didn't see that.
[06:18] <Nei> and gnomeicu even crashes
[06:18] <Xandor> mustard5, One minute.
[06:19] <Hinomori> where in linux i can find my disck c: and d: ?
[06:19] <mustard5> Hinomori, your windows drives?
[06:19] <ubuntu_> nossa
[06:19] <electron> Hinomori, you have to mount it
[06:20] <electron> !tell Hinomori ntfs
[06:20] <Xandor> God, I wish I knew synaptic could install the driver in the first place.....
[06:20] <Hinomori> damn i must go noww -_-
[06:20] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Hinomori about windowsdrives
[06:20] <mustard5> hehe
[06:20] <Hinomori> i wiill back soon and i tel then
[06:20] <erUSUL> !tell Hinomori about windowsdrives
[06:20] <ubuntu_> wow
[06:20] <ubuntu_> lol
[06:20] <ubuntu_> where i am?
[06:21] <Xandor> This is taking a while to reset the xorg.conf file.
[06:21] <electron> can someone help me out with eggdrop please?
[06:21] <Lin> Xandor: do you have instaled nvidia glx?
[06:21] <electron> I need to get it going for my server
[06:21] <mustard5> Xandor, hardware acceleration is not enabled with these drivers you installed btw
[06:21] <Xandor> ^.-
[06:21] <Xandor> As in 3D acceleration you mean?
[06:21] <mustard5> Lin, he had edited his xorg.conf, so now he is resetting it to default
[06:21] <mustard5> Xandor, yep
[06:21] <Xandor> Argh!
[06:22] <Xandor> *sigh*
[06:22] <mustard5> Xandor, you running games?
[06:22] <Xandor> Trying to.
[06:22] <lara> hi
[06:22] <Xandor> This was so much easier in Yast...
[06:22] <mustard5> Xandor, you will need the drivers from nvidia site :)
[06:22] <Xandor> I have them.
[06:22] <lara> whats the package i need to get for rhythmbox/gstreamer to play mp3's ?
[06:22] <mustard5> Xandor, let me find a how to
[06:22] <Xandor> That's what I needed my kernel source for.
[06:22] <lara> if i try gstreamer-0.8-mad i get Package gstreamer0.8-mad is not available, but is referred to by another package
[06:23] <mustard5> Xandor, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:23] <CherryOS> i accidentally ran an mv from my Desktop folder, and moved my desktop folder in the proccess, i moved it back, but now it won't work right, none of the files can be found, what should i do?
[06:23] <mustard5> I thnk that is it
[06:23] <electron> it has been said that nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..."  - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package
[06:23] <jko> is dri for radeon 9200 loaded by default in livecd 5.10 ?
[06:23] <Coburn85> sorry last suggest i have install java.bin from http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#enable but iwant remove bin installation because it doesnt appear in synaptic how??????? in site there isnt voice installation thx again for your help!!
[06:24] <Xandor> I'll take a look, thanks mustard5.
[06:24] <electron> nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources>
[06:24] <mustard5> Xandor, ignore that
[06:24] <mustard5> Xandor, its the guide to do what you have done already :D
[06:24] <FunnyLookinHat> How do i disable all power management in Gnome?  If I unplug my laptop and plug it back it, it thinks it is still unplugged.
[06:24] <Xandor> I noticed....
[06:24] <Xandor> lol
[06:25] <Xandor> And my xorg.conf is still resetting, X.X
[06:25] <Xandor> That doesn't seem right.
[06:25] <mustard5> Xandor, this is a thread in the forum but I make not claims about what it might do to your system....follow at your own risk
[06:25] <mustard5> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368&highlight=nvidia
[06:25] <bluefrog-10> Xandor, did u reboot after sudo nvidia-glx-enable?
[06:25] <Xandor> Not yet.
[06:25] <bluefrog-10> reboot
[06:26] <Xandor> But mustard5 said it won't enable 3d acceleration.
[06:26] <Xandor> Which is what I need.
[06:26] <zion115> how long does it take to check out CVS?
[06:26] <marciofleury> good afternoon for everyone...i'm having a problem to install vm ware, anyone here can help me
[06:26] <bluefrog-10> I have 4 nvidia Gforce 550 5200 on my ubuntus
[06:26] <bluefrog-10> they all have 3D
[06:26] <Xandor> I'll try it then, be back in a few.
[06:26] <mustard5> with nvidia-glx bluefrog-10 ?
[06:26] <zion115> any1?
[06:27] <Lin> Xandor: do you have installed nvidia-glx?
[06:27] <bluefrog-10> with apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:27] <Xandor> Lin, yes.
[06:27] <FunnyLookinHat> How do i disable all power management in Gnome?  If I unplug my laptop and plug it back it, it thinks it is still unplugged
[06:28] <zion115> any1?
[06:28] <mustard5> bluefrog-10, I was under the impression the nvidia-glx did not support hardware acceleration
[06:28] <Lin> Xandor: tehere is nvidia-glx-config binary?
[06:28] <chroniker> quit
[06:28] <deFrysk>  /
[06:28] <Xandor> Lin, yes.
[06:28] <marciofleury> anyone here can help me!! My problem is: the directory of kernel headers does not match my running kernel!! what must i do
[06:29] <mustard5> FunnyLookinHat, try under screensaver in preferences?
[06:29] <bluefrog-10> don't know, all i know is that it has been working after reboot, not only after a kiiling x
[06:29] <Xandor> I will reboot.
[06:29] <Xandor> I will be back in a few to let you know.
[06:29] <FunnyLookinHat> mustard5, That appears to have had no effect.
[06:29] <zion115> Does any1 know long it takes to check out CVS when installing wineCVS?
[06:29] <mustard5> FunnyLookinHat, I'm not sure then
[06:29] <martii> hi
[06:30] <bluefrog-10> marciofleury, install linux-headers correspomging to your kernel, install gcc3.4
[06:30] <martii> I still did not found hot to solve ati 8.16.20 driver problem
[06:30] <mustard5> zion115, a long time
[06:30] <martii> i mean fglrx
[06:30] <bluefrog-10> marciofleury, and if you want to install the latest vmware i wouldn't waste my time
[06:30] <bluefrog-10> marcin, install vmware 5 is ok
[06:30] <Lin> I will try m-a solutions ;-)
[06:31] <marciofleury> bluefrog-10: i'm tryingo to install vmwre...
[06:31] <Lin> good bye.. I have to go. My fans are calling me.. Gooooodbyyyyyeee!
[06:31] <marciofleury> vmware 5 is ok
[06:31] <mustard5> cya Lin
[06:31] <bluefrog-10> marciofleury, http://users.linuxbourg.ch/waver/blog/index.php?2005/10/18/61-installer-vmware-sous-ubuntu-breezy
[06:31] <marciofleury> my gcc is 3.3
[06:31] <bluefrog-10> marciofleury, it's in french but the command line are in english, should be enough
[06:32] <newbie> quick question can you run a video driver with ndiswrapper?
[06:32] <mustard5> newbie, I don't believe so...I may be wrong :)
[06:32] <newbie> any other ideas
[06:32] <mustard5> what video card?
[06:32] <marciofleury> i'll try...just a moment...and thank you
[06:33] <newbie> ati radeon mobilty 9000 igp
[06:33] <mustard5> newbie, you read ati wiki how to's?
[06:33] <bluefrog-10> marciofleury, my vmware is 5.0.0.13-124 above that u may run into problems
[06:34] <erUSUL> newbie, no way
[06:34] <xandor> THANK YOU!
[06:34] <newbie> no ati said that you have to go to the manufactory for notebook cards
[06:34] <dr_willis> ATI likes to pass the buck.
[06:34] <xandor> 3d acceleration worked!
[06:34] <newbie> ic
[06:34] <erUSUL> newbie, ndis is only for net drivers
[06:34] <mustard5> xandor, ok thats good news then :)
[06:34] <newbie> okay
[06:34] <dr_willis> ATIs linux drivers worked for my x200m card in my laptop under linux
[06:34] <mustard5> xandor, sorry for the misdirection
[06:34] <xandor> mustard5, I had to manually edit my xorg.conf though.
[06:34] <xandor> mustard5, No no, it's alright.
[06:35] <mustard5> xandor, you are braver than me :)
[06:35] <erUSUL> newbie, use the radeon driver. man radeon
[06:35] <mustard5> xandor, I don't want to touch mine
[06:35] <xandor> mustard5, I've had experience already with editing it.
[06:35] <newbie> okay
[06:35] <marciofleury> bluefrog-10: i'm tryingo to install the same version as yours
[06:35] <newbie> the only reason i thought it would be messed up is it shares my ram
[06:35] <xandor> mustard5, the NVidia readme gives instructions on how to change it.
[06:36] <mustard5> xandor, k
[06:36] <bluefrog-10> xandor, what did u need to change?
[06:36] <xandor> there is a line that says driver = "nv" I changed nv to nvidia
[06:36] <xandor> I believe it's driver
[06:36] <newbie> thanx for the advice I just want to run looking glass
[06:37] <bluefrog-10> xandor, this should have been changed automatically, have you fiddled with xorg.conf before installing nvidia drivers?
[06:37] <giacomo> #canale
[06:37] <xandor> Yes.
[06:37] <giacomo> hi
[06:37] <VooDoo> howdy
[06:37] <bluefrog-10> xandor, ok that's why
[06:37] <mustard5> bluefrog-10, yeah...I told him to reset i
[06:37] <mustard5> :D
[06:37] <xandor> bluefrog-10 I was trying to install the NVidia driver manually.
[06:37] <mustard5> my fault :D
[06:38] <marciofleury> the problem was in the middle of instalation, have a question: "What is the location of C header that match your running kernel"
[06:38] <xandor> In the read me it said if you do not have Yast you have to..... Bastards....
[06:38] <newbie> take care all
[06:38] <mustard5> cya newbie
[06:39] <marciofleury> than i passed the location but e got this response:"The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.0-test7) does not match your
[06:39] <marciofleury> running kernel (version 2.6.10-5-386).  Even if the module were to compile
[06:39] <marciofleury> successfully, it would not load into the running kernel."
[06:39] <xandor> bluefrog-10 and mustard5 Thank you both so much, Gaming is my life, sadly enough. This means alot to me, and my girlfriend will thank you too, She's been begging me to but on Need for Speed.
[06:40] <mustard5> xandor, you runnning cedega?
[06:40] <xandor> Yeah.
[06:40] <mustard5> ah k :)
[06:40] <xandor> Wine wasn't working right.
[06:40] <mustard5> I havent got it yet
[06:40] <mustard5> wine sucks :d
[06:40] <xandor> Yep.
[06:41] <mustard5> xandor, good gaming then :)
[06:41] <marciofleury> i am new in linux, and i don't know what i do to get the correct version of the kernel header
[06:41] <xandor> Check your pm.
[06:41] <arnaud__> I have a /dev/sda1 volume that appears after mounting an /dev/sda usb external disk. It appears as an /media object. How can I be sure it is not on the disk and remove it ?
[06:41] <basq> where setup bash files colors?
[06:41] <mustard5> marciofleury, you tried searching synaptic for 'linux-headers' ?
[06:41] <xandor> You gtet it mustard5?
[06:42] <basq> .zip are red but .rar not
[06:42] <dr_willis> Basq you mean the color 'ls' uses?
[06:42] <mustard5> xandor, no
[06:42] <basq> yes ls
[06:42] <mustard5> xandor, you registered with nickserv?
[06:42] <xandor> No.
[06:42] <dr_willis> man ls - theres a file in /etc/ that definds all them I belive.
[06:42] <mustard5> xandor, you can't send me pms then :)
[06:42] <xandor> How do you do that?
[06:42] <ompaul> xandor,  /msg nickserv register
[06:43] <erUSUL> Arnald, pardon? what is the problem exactly?
[06:43] <ompaul> xandor,  /msg nickserv register your-password
[06:43] <ompaul> xandor,  /msg nickserv help will also be useful
[06:43] <Arnald> erUSUL: heh, between keyboard & monitor I'd say! ;)
[06:43] <RedRum> ...
[06:43] <smi|e> ubotu tell xandor about nickserv
[06:43] <marciofleury> mustard5: i see now.....i wil install this package and see what happens
[06:43] <xandor> I got it.
[06:43] <RedRum> /ns register redrum
[06:43] <mustard5> marciofleury, good luck
[06:44] <marciofleury> thanks a lot
[06:44] <xandor> Do I need to restart before I can pm?
[06:44] <RedRum> /cs drop #ubuntu ********
[06:44] <RedRum> o.O
[06:44] <mustard5> xandor you need to identify I think
[06:44] <bluefrog-10> marciofleury, if u follow the guide i pasted u'll install vmware in no time
[06:44] <xandor> Which means?
[06:44] <mustard5> xandor try sending
[06:44] <nagual> yeah xandor /msg NickServ IDENTIFY password
[06:44] <RedRum> /ns identify pass
[06:44] <xandor> Sorry, I'm new to IRC
[06:45] <RedRum> no shit..
[06:45] <HolySavior> anyone know how to make your desktop visable again, once you accidently somehow make it dissappear?
[06:45] <mustard5> RedRum, type it in your server window not chat window
[06:45] <xandor> It says I already have Identified.
[06:45] <mustard5> RedRum, we wont see your mistakes then :)
[06:45] <mustard5> xandor, send pm then
[06:45] <RedRum> mustard, it dosnt matter...
[06:45] <RedRum> r u an idiot?
[06:46] <hybrid_goth> RedRum: are you 12?
[06:46] <RedRum> r u a fuckin retard?
[06:46] <basq> RedRum, how desktop can disapear?
[06:46] <qwerrttyy> hello, I am trying to install ubuntu breezy on a PC but the installation always freezes around the same debug lines: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3837 what could be the problem?
[06:46] <nagual> RedRum you are so 1337, arent' you.  Dick.
[06:47] <hybrid_goth> lmao
[06:47] <bolrod> hohoho.. this be a channel for 12 year olds?
[06:47] <sevtron> lol
[06:47] <deFrysk> !ops
[06:47] <ubotu> well, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[06:47] <RedRum> lol, haha, funny, lets all laugh a bit
[06:47] <bluefrog-10> qwerrttyy, is the checksum of you cdrom ok?
[06:47] <bolrod> .] ] 
[06:47] <hybrid_goth> wow mplayer plays AAC
[06:47] <RedRum> basq, Sub7?
[06:48] <qwerrttyy> bluefrog-10, how can I check that?
[06:48] <mustard5> goodbye RedRum :)
[06:48] <bluefrog-10> with a md5sum tool under windows
[06:48] <delta_> any problem on the chanel?
[06:48] <hybrid_goth> qwerrttyy: md5sum
[06:48] <RedRum> ur leaving?
[06:48] <qwerrttyy> hybrid_goth, can I still do md5sum to a disc I don't have an image of anymore?
[06:48] <dr_willis> i found a nice MD5Sum program for windows that put it on the right-click menus for all files.
[06:48] <mustard5> RedRum is a problem delta_
[06:49] <tomekk> siema
[06:49] <bluefrog-10> qwerrttyy, yes
[06:49] <RedRum> Bitch.
[06:50] <hybrid_goth> !tell RedRum about CoC
[06:50] <qwerrttyy> dr_willis, I'm on linux, but what's that windows program called?
[06:50] <maunix> hi, i whish if someone can help me with a link or adocument to read about, how to deal with .deb files.
[06:51] <mustard5> maunix, what are you trying to do?
[06:51] <HappyFool> qwerrttyy: what linux are you running now? if you can mount the CD, you can fairly easily check it
[06:51] <maunix> mustard5: i have a file on a site. a .deb file.  Its of a software that i don't see listed on my respository list.
[06:51] <hybrid_goth> maunix: what do you want to do with the deb?
[06:51] <maunix> mustard5: i downloaded it and i don't know what to do.
[06:51] <basq> maunix .deb files must be for ubuntu
[06:51] <RedRum> hey, wtf is that cock shit?
[06:51] <mustard5> maunix, what software?
[06:52] <hybrid_goth> maunix: man dpkg
[06:52] <maunix> mustard5: an electronics simulator and programming environment.
[06:52] <DeVeRaS> yellow
[06:52] <qwerrttyy> HappyFool, Breezy
[06:52] <hybrid_goth> maunix: sudo dpkg -i is the usual it installs the package
[06:52] <DeVeRaS> how can i restart php on ubuntu?
[06:52] <DeVeRaS> php4 restart?
[06:52] <HappyFool> qwerrttyy: so it's running ok?
[06:52] <mustard5> maunix, type 'man dpkg' in terminal for manual
[06:52] <coz> Hello all
[06:52] <coz> Bonjour
[06:52] <HappyFool> DeVeRaS: maybe restart apache?
[06:52] <coz> bonjourno neehow
[06:52] <maunix> hybrid_goth and mustard5: thanks both.
[06:52] <hybrid_goth> coz: Bonjour is nice
[06:52] <maunix> i'll try and i come later. :)
[06:52] <hybrid_goth> any time
[06:52] <coz> bon
[06:52] <HappyFool> qwerrttyy: i mean, on at least one machine
[06:53] <qwerrttyy> HappyFool, on a different machine, however, I think it froze on install on this machine too and I had to try twice or thrice
[06:53] <DeVeRaS> HappyFool how do i restart apache then?
[06:53] <coz> ma je parle francaise un peu
[06:53] <HappyFool> qwerrttyy: hmm. odd. anyway, put the install cd into this machine, and mount it (it should auto-mount)
[06:53] <hybrid_goth> coz: ubuntu-fr
[06:53] <qwerrttyy> HappyFool, done and done
[06:53] <hybrid_goth> i believe
[06:53] <HappyFool> DeVeRaS: sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart (or apache2 restart, i can't remeber)
[06:53] <coz> no ubuntu eng
[06:53] <coz> sorry
[06:54] <mustard5> !fr
[06:54] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[06:54] <HappyFool> qwerrttyy: ok, start a terminal, and type 'cd /media/cdrom'
[06:54] <coz> I wanted to to install all of the languages to switch back and forth to keep me in practice
[06:54] <qwerrttyy> HappyFool, done
[06:54] <coz>  Is that possible?
[06:54] <roby> Hi guys! I have a probel with realplayer in breezy! I think I have to change the sound server it uses because I had the same problem in MPlayer but there I changed the audio driver from alsa to esd and now it is ok! How can I do it in realplayer?
[06:54] <DeVeRaS> HappyFool neither.... :(
[06:54] <hybrid_goth> coz: yup
[06:55] <HappyFool> qwerrttyy: then 'md5sum -c md5sum.txt|tee ~/md5results.txt' -- that will scroll info and write it to a file md5results.txt in your home dir
[06:55] <coz> "ypu" is that french lol
[06:55] <coz> yup
[06:55] <netstar> Any PPC users here?
[06:55] <HappyFool> DeVeRaS: is there an /etc/init.d/httpd ?
[06:55] <hybrid_goth> netstar: here
[06:55] <qwerrttyy> okay
[06:55] <netstar> what kernel and hardware do you run?
[06:55] <coz> I tried with ppc but like BeOs it wouldn't instll onto the older ppc
[06:55] <HappyFool> qwerrttyy: if there are any 'FAIL' entries, there's a problem; if not, the files should be OK
[06:56] <hybrid_goth> netstar: iBook G3 and I use the defualt UbuntuPPC kernel
[06:56] <hybrid_goth> although i wanna try the ben_h kernel
[06:56] <coz> Being that Shuttleworth gave 10 million to Ubutnu you wold think all of these problems would have gone away
[06:56] <coz>  at least all the licensing issues
[06:56] <netstar> hybrid_goth, which one?
[06:56] <hybrid_goth> coz: M$ has billions and has greater problems
[06:57] <coz> explain that
[06:57] <hybrid_goth> netstar: just the one you get from installing it idk any particular one
[06:57] <mustard5> coz and hybrid_goth lets not start this discussion in support channel ok?
[06:57] <bluefrog-10> coz, money is not all, work and time are bigger issues...
[06:57] <hybrid_goth> coz /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:57] <coz> Oh well sorry guys I really like XP and windows vista is absolutelu incredible
[06:57] <mustard5> coz, #ubuntu-offtopic is great for these discussion
[06:58] <nicosoft> hola
[06:58] <mustard5> welcome nicosoft
[06:58] <HolySavior> hi
[06:58] <aeon17x> coz: That's why we're trying to make a better product.
[06:58] <nicosoft> hello
[06:58] <mustard5> Hi HolySavior
[06:58] <mustard5> hehe
[06:58] <mattt> why would you use tee over > / >>?
[06:59] <HappyFool> it doubles the output
[06:59] <HappyFool> or rather, doesn't hide it
[06:59] <HolySavior> anyone know how to get your desktop  back to being visable,when you accidently , somehow making it all dissappear lol
[06:59] <CaBlGuY> greetings,
[06:59] <mattt> hmmm :)
[06:59] <hybrid_goth> HolySavior: like nautilius?
[06:59] <mustard5> HolySavior, that sounds pretty serious
[06:59] <CaBlGuY> need to know about badblocks
[06:59] <HappyFool> HolySavior: what do you see on your screen? 'login: ' ?
[06:59] <HolySavior> i went to start up GAIM
[07:00] <holycow> HappyFool, in terminal run command: nautilus
[07:00] <HolySavior> i see the ubuntu desktop background and this box
[07:00] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, fsck will check for badblocks
[07:00] <holycow> tha should bring everything back
[07:00] <CaBlGuY> ok
[07:00] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, you got live cd?
[07:00] <CaBlGuY> no..
[07:00] <Cryptid> y isnt Breezy backport working?????
[07:00] <_TomB> why would Ubuntu, decide to only allow me to use 640x400 after rebooting, whereas it was 1024x768 before rebooting
[07:00] <HappyFool> 'badblocks' is a program to check for bad blocks; i suspect fsck checks file-system integrity
[07:00] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, fsck cant be run on a mounted drive
[07:00] <bluefrog-10> holycow, log out and see what happens...
[07:00] <mattt> ah, so you can still see standard output while saving it in a file
[07:00] <HolySavior> and how am i suppse to get in the terminal when  there is nothing to click on
[07:00] <CaBlGuY> well that's stupid.. :/
[07:01] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, which drive has bad blocks..your mounted drive?
[07:01] <qwerrttyy> does anyone know about how gtk or gnome window drawing, etc has changed in performance?
[07:01] <CaBlGuY> yeah I think so..
[07:01] <bluefrog-10> holycow, ctrl alt return
[07:01] <holycow> _TomB, it lost the vertical and horizontal refresh info for y our moni, redo them in /etc/x11/xorg.conf.  make sure you make a backup first
[07:01] <CherryOS> how do i put the trash can icon on my desktop in breezy?
[07:01] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, can you download and burn a liveCD?
[07:01] <holycow> you guys need to watch your tab completion, your getting the wrong dude
[07:01] <_TomB> I don't use a monitor
[07:01] <CaBlGuY> I could..
[07:01] <_TomB> I just VNC in
[07:01] <_TomB> I set it up then removed the monitor
[07:01] <bluefrog-10> holycow, sry
[07:01] <HappyFool> holycow: you too ;)
[07:01] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, that would make it easier...there may even be other ways
[07:01] <CaBlGuY> but I was hopin to just do it in the X environment
[07:02] <bluefrog-10> HolySavior, ctrl alt return
[07:02] <holycow> lol :)
[07:02] <holycow> _TomB, oh vnc? not sure i don't use that
[07:02] <CaBlGuY> ok, one more..   XMMS opens up to try and play some streaming media, and freezes up..  how can I close it and do I need to upgrade?
[07:02] <CherryOS> wait..nvm
[07:02] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, click furiously on kill button
[07:02] <HolySavior> ctrl alt return does nothing
[07:03] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, or killall xmms in terminal
[07:03] <titanium_> i put a file called kaid.sh in my /etc/init.d. it has one line, "/home/garrett/kai/kaid". i want kaid to run on startup, but it isn't. the .sh file is chmodded a+x -- why doesnt kaid start when the system does?
[07:03] <bluefrog-10> HolySavior, ctrl alt return not enter, correct?
[07:03] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, then go to preferences in XMMS and change the output to something else..cant remember which one
[07:03] <CaBlGuY> ok thanx
[07:03] <HolySavior> yes the little arrow that points left on the key
[07:03] <bluefrog-10> k
[07:04] <tomekk> HALO ;]  BARTEK PODCZ SI DO MNIE
[07:04] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, one of the preference settings for output fixes the freezing...sorry I can't remember which one atm
[07:04] <tomekk> HALO ;]  BARTEK PODCZ SI DO MNIE
[07:04] <bluefrog-10> HolySavior, ctrl alt F1 for a console, log in then sudo init 6  to reboot
[07:04] <mustard5> tomekk, english please
[07:04] <jeremy913226> hi - i'm.. unfamiliar with linux and having a few problems trying to configure proftpd - anyone able to lend a hand?
[07:05] <green-mouse> titanium_: use update-rc.d <basename> defaults
[07:05] <mustard5> jeremy913226, I'd help if I knew what it was, but I have no clue
[07:05] <CaBlGuY> mustard5,  that's cool..  thanks..
[07:05] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, np
[07:05] <tomekk> BARTEK ! :)
[07:06] <mustard5> tomekk, what language?
[07:06] <bartek> tomekk
[07:06] <tomekk> ?
[07:06] <arnaud__> how can I be sure that this partition is on an external disk and how can I delete it ? /dev/sda on /media/SANS TITRE type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[07:07] <mustard5> bartek you two know each other?
[07:07] <bartek> cheche wes wybierz mui nik i klikni prawy myszki
[07:07] <_TomB> holycow there are no vsync and hsyncs in the xorg.conf
[07:07] <_TomB> :/
[07:07] <qwerrttyy> bartek, what language? I understood most of it
[07:07] <bartek> ok sorry for that
[07:07] <holycow> that would be it ... but some defaults in there, i forget what x defaults to
[07:08] <holycow> well actually nm
[07:08] <holycow> i don't know how that would affect a vnc session
[07:08] <qwerrttyy> barosl, po jakim jesyku mowielesz?
[07:08] <bartek> but my frends dont speak anglish end i lern him how instal maus
[07:08] <qwerrttyy> sure, I just want to know what language it was
[07:08] <mustafu> hm...I wanted to install Ubuntu on an older P-II box that I have, however, when I power on the machine, it just makes repeated long beeps with a pause inbetween w/ no video :( Is my mobo gone? :(
[07:08] <mustard5> bartek can you take them to the proper language channel?
[07:08] <bartek> poland
[07:08] <bartek> ok
[07:09] <mustard5> bartek its english only allowed in here...the ops will not like it
[07:09] <qwerrttyy> okay, ja mowiem po polsku, ale jestem od ameriki
[07:09] <bartek> tomekk you in there
[07:09] <netstar> mustafu, you might need to check all your pci and agp cards are properly inserted into the motherboard.
[07:09] <Cryptid> y isnt Breezy backport working?????
[07:09] <mustard5> Cryptid, because there is nothing to backport
[07:09] <HappyFool> Cryptid: maybe it hasn't been created yet
[07:10] <mustard5> Cryptid, a backport is a update from the next version that is made available to an older version
[07:10] <mustard5> Cryptid, Dapper develpment has not started yet
[07:10] <delltony> question: is there an updated gaim or another program that allows you to use a webcam on yahoo and msn?
[07:10] <qwerrttyy> hello, I am trying to install ubuntu breezy on a PC but the installation always freezes around the same debug lines: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3837 I grepped an md5sum log of a check and grep did not return FAIL, what could be the problem?
[07:10] <netstar> delltony, not yet
[07:10] <mustafu> ok, nope, no effect :( I even have it stripped down to only cpu, vid. card, ram, and HD...I guess something's bad :/
[07:10] <tomekk> BARTEK ! i writing to you
[07:11] <Cryptid> Happyfool i need azureus where can i get it from on hoary i found it on synaptic but in breezy i can find it can u help me???
[07:11] <delltony> netstar, thanks
[07:11] <Cryptid> mustard5, what is Dapper
[07:11] <thrush> delltony: some people use wine and a windows messenger i believe
[07:11] <HappyFool> does azureus have a homepage?
[07:11] <netstar> delltony, but gaim may well do quite soon.  For now you can use gnomemeeting which supports h323 with clients such as Microsoft Netmeeting.
[07:11] <qwerrttyy> Cryptid, the next version of Ubunu = Dapper Drake
[07:11] <bartek> msg tomekk
[07:11] <holycow> Cryptid, auz is java, just download it and run it with java -jar auzareus.jar ... make sure you have java jre installed and for that info you can google
[07:11] <delltony> speaking of dapper the potential looks very promissing i can't wait
[07:11] <delltony> yeah netstar thats what i'm doing for now was just wondering
[07:12] <Cryptid> HappyFool, yes it does but only .tar.gz from and i dunno how to install them
[07:12] <HappyFool> Cryptid: double click on the tar file in nautilus to look inside
[07:12] <HappyFool> Cryptid: look for a file like 'README' or 'INSTALL' for instructions
[07:13] <b0c1k4> hi
[07:13] <tomekk> bartek join me
[07:13] <HappyFool> qwerrttyy: what sort of machine is it?
[07:13] <bartek> i traing
[07:14] <matw> hi! Has anyone managed to run FreeNX on AMD64 ubuntu?
[07:14] <Sionide> Tip of the day: Don't waste money buying expensive binoculars. Simply stand closer to the object you wish to view.
[07:15] <qwerrttyy> HappyFool, lowend generic, mmm 500mhz amd-k6-2, with 192mb ram, two PCI slots, two ISA slots, and AT-type plugin for other devices
[07:15] <HappyFool> and when said object is a hungry lion? ;)
[07:15] <b0c1k4> Anybody installed mysql?
[07:15] <b0c1k4> I have a little problem with mysql_install_db
[07:15] <Cryptid> holycow, how to i run .jar files and how do i install Azureus can u help me with it?have u done this before?
[07:15] <TheOtherBenH> hello all
[07:15] <b0c1k4> Cryptid: java -jar xxx.jar
[07:15] <holycow> Cryptid, i gave  you the command
[07:15] <HappyFool> qwerrttyy: did you have a similar error on the other machine? you said it froze once or twice?
[07:16] <titanium_> i put a file called kaid.sh in my /etc/init.d. it has one line, "/home/garrett/kai/kaid". i want kaid to run on startup, but it isn't. the .sh file is chmodded a+x -- why doesnt kaid start when the system does? i already did update-rc.d
[07:16] <TheOtherBenH> is there a default root password for ubuntu? or do I just have to sudo everything?
[07:16] <apokryphos> Cryptid: just grab the one from their site (the gtk one), and then simply untar and open ./azureus
[07:16] <Cryptid> holycow, sorry my mistake i didnt read the whole msg properly
[07:16] <apokryphos> !root
[07:16] <ubotu> I heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:16] <b0c1k4> or you can bind java to all java files (see in kernel documentation)
[07:16] <bartek> tomekk lets go to enadher server
[07:16] <b0c1k4> !mysql
[07:16] <flipy> hi
[07:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:16] <holycow> Cryptid, no worries, just ask again, its confusing at first.  we'll get you up to speed soon
[07:17] <holycow> apokryphos, they have a gtk version?
[07:17] <holycow> i had no clue
[07:17] <flipy> is there any tool for enable/disable daemons?
[07:17] <qwerrttyy> qwerrttyy, I didn't run debug on that one but I figure I might be able to reproduce it again and check
[07:17] <apokryphos> holycow: I didn't know there was a non-gtk one for linux :/
[07:17] <HappyFool> qwerrttyy: well, if it's the same error on a different machine, that is odd
[07:17] <tomekk> bartek, ok
[07:17] <qwerrttyy> qwerrttyy, did you take a look at the lines where it usually freezes on?
[07:17] <holycow> apokryphos, java is java, if they are using the right toolkit it automatically inherits local widgety goodness
[07:17] <bartek> next in the list
[07:17] <b0c1k4> any idea about mysq_install_db error?
[07:17] <HappyFool> qwerrttyy: i'm not sure of all the possible causes but i would guess 1) faulty hardware, 2) unsupported hardware and 3) bug in installer
[07:17] <StarKruzr> hey guys, how do I make Apache2 (after installing it from apt) 1) include mod_rewrite and 2) actually execute .pl files rather than just send them whole to the client?  The .pl files live in /home/user/public_html/cgi-bin and are chmodded +x
[07:18] <HappyFool> qwerrttyy: on the pastebin
[07:18] <qwerrttyy> qwerrttyy, yup
[07:18] <qwerrttyy> HappyFool, **
[07:18] <apokryphos> holycow: erm, not really. You can't have a qt azureus, unless you cheat the the process with some type of gtk2 engine pack
[07:18] <HappyFool> qwerrttyy: i looked but wasn't enlightened
[07:19] <b0c1k4> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3838
[07:19] <holycow> holycow, i thought swing was able to do that? ah okay then
[07:19] <holycow> one learns something new here  every day :)
[07:19] <matw> StarKruzr, # a2enmod rewrite, (enables module) can't help with .pl question. sorry
[07:19] <b0c1k4> any idea?
[07:19] <DonVincenzo> when I want to kill a process, should i mention the PID or PPID ?
[07:20] <apokryphos> DonVincenzo: I tend to just use the application name; but the PID is fine too
[07:20] <HappyFool> not the ppid ;)
[07:20] <flipy> I'm looking for a tool to enable/disable those daemons that start at boot up (like lvm, mdadm-raid, etc...)
[07:20] <matw> Has anyone managed to run FreeNX on AMD64 ubuntu?
[07:20] <DonVincenzo> and all the PPID are the same, so my question is stupid
[07:20] <HappyFool> flipy: system -> admin -> services has some daemons
[07:21] <HappyFool> flipy: otherwise take a look at 'update-rc.d' on the command-line
[07:21] <flipy> HappyFool, but no gnome daemon?
[07:22] <HappyFool> flipy: gdm, you mean? (the graphical login program)
[07:22] <b0c1k4> flipy: or use sysvconfig
[07:22] <b0c1k4> flipy: (console app)
[07:22] <Cryptid> Which is the best download manager available for ubuntu Breezy?????
[07:22] <flipy> HappyFool, no sorry, i meant no gui for managing daemons under gnome
[07:22] <HappyFool> wget, without a double ;)
[07:23] <holycow> Cryptid, download manager? what do you mean?
[07:23] <HappyFool> flipy: you can checkout bum (no, seriously) in the repos
[07:23] <Cryptid> holycow, some thing like DAP for windows
[07:23] <holycow> Cryptid, oh maybe look up downloader for x on the net or install it and try it
[07:24] <Cryptid> holycow, which cd burning software do u prefer
[07:24] <HappyFool> apt-cache search download manager shows 5
[07:24] <manuel__> soy nuevo necesito ayuda en espaol
[07:24] <HappyFool> !es
[07:24] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:24] <Fructose> I've installed mplayer-mozilla, but embedded media still tries to play in Totem (and fails). How do I change how it plays embedded media?
[07:24] <manuel__> gracias
[07:24] <Cryptid> HappyFool, ok i will try searching for download managers
[07:24] <holycow> Cryptid, for my needs gnome baker is great.  some people like k3b which is a kde app but works excellent as well
[07:25] <mattpj1> is there a reason i cant play mp3 songs?
[07:25] <Cryptid> holycow, wat bout nero??? is it good has ne one tried it??
[07:25] <HappyFool> !tell mattpj1 about restricted
[07:25] <HappyFool> mattpj1: that will tell you what to do to get mp3's to play
[07:25] <holycow> Cryptid, what about it?  i heard something about it being released for linux, but why bother, the others are native and work great
[07:25] <holycow> besides
[07:26] <holycow> nero dudes will do what they do on windows, do something completely non standard and not follow the HIG for example
[07:26] <Fructose> Can anyone hear me or am I muted?
[07:26] <highvoltage> what does that mean?
[07:26] <holycow> lol
[07:26] <HappyFool> Fructose: ppl only respond if they know the answer
[07:26] <odie5533_> Is there any good CVS daemon for Ubuntu?
[07:27] <hybrid_goth> HappyFool: heh
[07:28] <HappyFool> odie5533_: doesn't the cvs 'pserver' come with cvs ?
[07:28] <highvoltage> odie5533_: are you still up for that tuxpaint battle?
[07:28] <jeremy913226> Hi - I've install boot-up-manager, but where do I find it to run it?
[07:28] <HappyFool> odie5533_: otherwise i'd recommend ssh
[07:28] <odie5533_> highvoltage, bring it on
[07:28] <b0c1k4> anybody use mysql in ubuntu?
[07:28] <HappyFool> jeremy913226: maybe 'system -> admin' ?
[07:28] <smi|e> anyone here from the uk who uses ubuntu ?
[07:28] <StarKruzr> nope
[07:28] <jeremy913226> HappyFool : Thanks :) (n00b)
[07:28] <odie5533_> HappyFool, I don't see pserver in the repos
[07:28] <StarKruzr> haven't you heard?
[07:28] <StarKruzr> Ubuntu is banned in Britain.
[07:28] <kyrnado> lol
[07:28] <HappyFool> odie5533_: i mean, isn't that an inseparable part of cvs?
[07:28] <HappyFool> odie5533_: 'info cvs' should reveal all
[07:29] <odie5533_> HappyFool, does a CVS server come with ubuntu?
[07:29] <elliot> why, when i try and chmod 777 a file does it say that it worked but the file retains 755?
[07:29] <bennyhill> lol
[07:29] <Cryptid> holycow, i tried to install opera but its dependencies are missing and i cant find those dependencies in Synaptic what do i do from where do i get the files needed???is there a repos which has all the dependecie file on it?????
[07:29] <Fructose> Anyone have problems with the screen going black when exiting fullscreen mode?
[07:29] <HappyFool> odie5533_: let me just check the docs
[07:29] <HappyFool> odie5533_: i think if you install 'cvs', you will get the pserver 'daemon'
[07:31] <odie5533> HappyFool, I just installed 'cvs'. How exactly do I gain use of this pserver?
[07:31] <HappyFool> odie5533: start 'info cvs' from the command line
[07:31] <Fructose> netPanzer, Penguin Racer, etc. cause my screen to go black when I exit. I can hear that everything's still working, but I can't see anything. I can do the key combos to go to the various terminals, but I can't find a way except CTRL + ALT + Backspace or rebooting to get out.
[07:32] <thesilentkiller> how do i run nautilus as root? i need to browse through the ntfs partition that i have mounted
[07:32] <manuel__> es la primera ves que uso ubuntu por favor como hago para entrar a ubuntu-es, disculpen mi ignorancia
[07:32] <matw> I reinstalled breezy, and now firefox won't start?????
[07:32] <HappyFool> odie5533: find the chapter 'repository' (it's chapter 2), subsection 9 (Remote repositories), subsubsection 3 (direct connection with password auth)
[07:32] <[A] ndy80> manuel__: esto no es agriturismo, esto es casolar... de noattri!
[07:32] <[A] ndy80> :D
[07:32] <spiekey> hello!
[07:32] <[A] ndy80> (ok sorry ^_^ )
[07:33] <HappyFool> odie5533: should tell you all you need to know
[07:33] <spiekey> has anyone seen a otrs 2.x ubuntu package somewhere?
[07:33] <arie_G> how do you get msn on linux???
[07:33] <jeremy913226> heheh
[07:33] <[A] ndy80> manuel__: /join #ubuntu-es
[07:33] <HappyFool> odie5533: do you definitely need CVS? I'd recommend subversion for new projects
[07:33] <odie5533> arie_G, GAIM
[07:33] <thesilentkiller> arie_G: gaim?
[07:33] <jeremy913226> use Gaim
[07:33] <arie_G> where can you get it??
[07:33] <thesilentkiller> arie_G: looks like a unanimous conlusion to use gaim!!
[07:33] <hybrid_goth> apt-get install gaim
[07:33] <odie5533> HappyFool, I don't really know, I've never used either of them. Is there a place I can find info about them?
[07:33] <varsedangger> is there a good way to get a whole list of files for streaming
[07:33] <manuel__> eso donde lo escribo
[07:33] <jeremy913226> arieg: applications -> internet
[07:34] <HappyFool> odie5533: subversion.tigris.org for subversion
[07:34] <varsedangger> like radio stations and tv?
[07:34] <HappyFool> odie5533: if you standby i can probably dig up a source-control comparison page
[07:34] <HappyFool> arie_G: installed by default, i think. Applications -> internet -> gaim
[07:34] <odie5533> HappyFool, that'd be nice, yes, thanks
[07:34] <thesilentkiller> arie_G: or if u want a newbie way, use the Applications --> Add Applications
[07:35] <matw> I reinstalled breezy, and now firefox won't start. Anyone else have this problem?
[07:35] <matw> Maybe I got a bad install?
[07:35] <Cryptid> Can .tar.bz2 file be comverted to .deb files using alien????????
[07:35] <titanium_> i put a file called kaid.sh in my /etc/init.d. it has one line, "/home/garrett/kai/kaid". i want kaid to run on startup, but it isn't. the .sh file is chmodded a+x -- why doesnt kaid start when the system does? i already did update-rc.d
[07:36] <StarKruzr> hey guys, how do I make Apache2 (after installing it from apt) actually execute .pl files rather than just send them whole to the client?  The .pl files live in /home/user/public_html/cgi-bin and are chmodded +x
[07:36] <alexbligh> On breezy, what is the supported way to make a new initrd after doing 'make install' from the kernel?
[07:36] <alexbligh> (update-initrd seems to be nothing but a manpage)
[07:37] <HappyFool> odie5533: http://zooko.com/revision_control_quick_ref.html and http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/scm.html -- can't find the one i was thinking of, but i think dave wheeler (second link) is fairly respected
[07:37] <odie5533> HappyFool, thanks, reading away
[07:37] <benplaut> when i go to system>prefences>sound and uncheck "Enable Sound Server Startup", what cli command does that do, and what does it do when you recheck it? i'm trying to put together a little script to get a game's soudn to work, then turn the sound server back on when the game is done
[07:37] <HappyFool> alexbligh: mkinitrd  -- though it was buggy when i used it
[07:38] <HappyFool> alexbligh: specify the complete path of the output file if it seems to not be working
[07:38] <HappyFool> alexbligh: as in 'mkinitrd -o /home/alex/myinitrd.img'
[07:38] <smi|e> If you are from the UK and you use Ubuntu Linux check out the new channel #ubuntu-uk
[07:38] <HappyFool> alexbligh: also, consider using 'make-kpkg' instead of doing kernel/initrd compile by hand
[07:39] <Zirland> i can't explain that, but i have problem with character encoding in console
[07:39] <alexbligh> Mmm... am not having a lot of luck with debian packages and the kernel.
[07:39] <ompaul> smi|e, is that cos they don't speak english?
[07:39] <alexbligh> thanks Happyfool
[07:39] <HappyFool> heh
[07:39] <HappyFool>  !en => Queen's English speakers please join #ubuntu-uk for support ;)
[07:39] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, HappyFool
[07:40] <Zirland> everything is set for UTF, but it displays ~[ and squares
[07:40] <HappyFool> that's ok, ubotu, i forgive you
[07:40] <benplaut> ok, new question
[07:41] <HappyFool> Zirland: that's probably the color-codes etc
[07:41] <benplaut> seperating command with ';' will wait for the previous command to complete before going on to the next, correct?
[07:41] <alexbligh> Happyfool: make-kpkg runs dpkg-buildpackage, which will require I have an official debian kernel tree, yes? Which I can't do, as I'm trying install 2.6.14.
[07:41] <HappyFool> alexbligh: um, i don't know
[07:41] <alexbligh> & the ubuntu-git version isn't compiling
[07:41] <Zirland> no no
[07:41] <Zirland> HappyFool:  it is displayed in aptitude for example
[07:42] <HappyFool> Zirland: well, aptitude probably uses ANSI (or whatever) control codes to move the cursor around
[07:43] <thesilentkiller> how do i run nautilus as root?
[07:43] <HappyFool> thesilentkiller: applications -> system tools -> run as different user
[07:43] <jeremy913226> TSK : sudo nautilus
[07:44] <Zirland> HappyFool:  and irssi also uses it?
[07:44] <halibut> I am looking to get a TerraTec 6fire DMX, will I be able to use it to its full potential with ubuntu? (specifically midi capabilities + rosegarden)
[07:45] <HappyFool> quite possibly. I see ~[ and so on when i ssh into a linux machine from a windows cmd.exe window
[07:45] <jeremy913226> ... I've installed proftpd but don't seem to have the conf file /etc/proftpd.conf. What's going on with that
[07:45] <Khaaaaaan> sup d00ds
[07:45] <HappyFool> jeremy913226: 'dpkg -L proftpd' to try to find it
[07:45] <jeremy913226> ta
[07:46] <jorgg> How do i change the language in det spellcheck in gaim?
[07:46] <thesilentkiller> HappyFool: thanks
[07:46] <Zirland> HappyFool: so you mean I can't solve this, I have to live with it?
[07:46] <jeremy913226> happyfool :
[07:47] <jeremy913226> Happyfool: didn't find it
[07:47] <HappyFool> Zirland: i'm sure it is solvable; i'm not sure it's an encoding problem in the sense of utf-8
[07:47] <HappyFool> jeremy913226: maybe you're expected to create it
[07:48] <Zirland> HappyFool:  so you know how to solve it?
[07:48] <HappyFool> Zirland: nope. what terminal is this occuring in?
[07:49] <HappyFool> Zirland: and what does 'echo $TERM' say in that terminal?
[07:49] <jeremy913226> Happyfool: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installftpserver
[07:49] <Zirland> HappyFool:  xterm
[07:49] <HappyFool> oh no! ubuntuguide! run away! run away!
[07:49] <HappyFool> Zirland: in the standard gnome-terminal?
[07:50] <selinium> Hi all any command line gurus about? I am trying to turn a folder full of RAW files into JPEGS at the command line. dcraw -c /home/james/Desktop/Canon/Canon\ 10D/101bCANON/*.CRW | cjpeg > ~/Desktop/Christening/*.jpeg
[07:50] <selinium> jeremy913226, Do not recommend ubuntuguide in here! :)
[07:50] <HappyFool> jeremy913226: stand by
[07:50] <Zirland> HappyFool:  yes, standard
[07:51] <jeremy913226> ..oh, i was far from recommending it..
[07:51] <HappyFool> Zirland: how about 'ls --color=always' -- does that show lots of rubbish extra chars too ?
[07:51] <selinium> jeremy913226, Sorry, just started watching the channel! :)
[07:51] <HappyFool> Zirland: maybe 'ls --color=always /' to have something to show
[07:51] <Unreal_IX> how do I edit the 'Open With' menu in Gnome?... I have two VLC Media Players in their
[07:52] <jeremy913226> (how do I quickly put someone's UN in front of my msg?)
[07:52] <Seveas> jeremy913226, <tab>
[07:52] <HappyFool> jeremy913226: hm. according to this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=proftpd.conf&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386
[07:52] <selinium> jeremy913226, first few letter then the tab
[07:52] <hybrid_goth> jeremy913226: type the first letter and hit tab
[07:52] <gean> hi all!
[07:52] <HappyFool> jeremy913226: /etc/proftpd.conf is *not* put in /etc
[07:52] <GTroy> I used shutdown, and lost my virtual desktops and connection. any idea?
[07:52] <selinium> Hi Seveas :)
[07:52] <halibut> I am looking to get a TerraTec 6fire DMX, will I be able to use it to its full potential with ubuntu? (specifically midi capabilities + rosegarden)
[07:52] <Quest-Master> Hey, how long did installing Breezy take for you guys?
[07:52] <HappyFool> jeremy913226: unless maybe it's done by a debconf script
[07:53] <Seveas> haia selinium
[07:53] <Zirland> HappyFool:  no rubbish... it displays colorful list
[07:53] <HappyFool> Zirland: hrm
[07:53] <Stormx2> Quest-Master: Not long
[07:53] <hybrid_goth> Quest-Master: depends on d/l speed
[07:53] <Stormx2> Quest-Master: But put aside an hour.
[07:53] <GTroy> should I reinstall?
[07:53] <Quest-Master> 30 minutes, maybe?
[07:53] <jeremy913226> hybrid_goth: doesen't work for me, i'm on vnc
[07:53] <Stormx2> Quest-Master: For download, but aside another 3 ^_^
[07:53] <HappyFool> Zirland: how about 'echo $LANG' ?
[07:53] <hybrid_goth> jeremy913226: use irssi
[07:53] <Quest-Master> I've installed Warty and Hoary before but removed them
[07:53] <HappyFool> Zirland: and under what conditions do you see the strange chars
[07:53] <Quest-Master> And considering installing Breezy now~
[07:53] <jeremy913226> selinium, oh wait, yes it does :)
[07:53] <hedonick> Quest-Master: full install for me... about 30 mins or so... including downloading on a fast line
[07:54] <Stormx2> Quest-Master: Breezy is good :)
[07:54] <hybrid_goth> Quest-Master: and upgrade is better then a install
[07:54] <selinium> jeremy913226, :)
[07:54] <Stormx2> hedonick: What speed are you on?
[07:54] <Stormx2> hybrid_goth: Not always :-\
[07:54] <Zirland> HappyFool:  cs_CZ.UTF-8
[07:54] <hedonick> Stormx2: 8/1 ADSL
[07:54] <Quest-Master> I'm on Comcast, 4mbps is what's advertised
[07:54] <hybrid_goth> Stormx2: how so...?
[07:54] <Quest-Master> hybrid_goth: I beg to differ.. fresh installs yield few problems compared to upgrades
[07:54] <hybrid_goth> Quest-Master: shouldnt take long
[07:54] <hedonick> Stormx2: the repos gave me somewhere around 500 kbyte/sec or so in speed
[07:54] <shaun_> hybrid_goth: What makes the upgrade better? I'm just curious
[07:54] <Stormx2> hedonick: Wow. I work of 60KB/s :-\
[07:55] <HappyFool> jeremy913226: ah-ha. have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure proftpd' ?
[07:55] <selinium> Seveas, How would you pass a variable through a pipe on the command line? If you can? :)
[07:55] <Zirland> HappyFool:  in aptitude, when for example updating sources .... in ssh it is too
[07:55] <jeremy913226> HappyFool, nope?
[07:55] <spencer__> I just installed Breezy and I'm having some problem with my printer. I have an Epson stylus color 480sxu. When I try to print the test page it hangs in the print que. One other piece of info - the printer port shows , hp no_device_found.
[07:55] <hybrid_goth> shaun_: i would wanna lose all my data to upgrade
[07:55] <Cryptid> holycow, i took ur advice and tried to isntall azureus using java -jar command but i am getting an error please take a look at ithttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3839 and tell me what to do...
[07:55] <Stormx2> What is the full name of dapper?
[07:55] <HappyFool> jeremy913226: see if that gives you any configuration options
[07:55] <Quest-Master> If you keep your data on another partition.. that isn't a problem
[07:55] <Stormx2> dapper dodger? ;-\
[07:55] <hybrid_goth> *wouldnt
[07:55] <jenda> Stormx2: drake
[07:55] <Seveas> selinium, what's your goal?
[07:55] <Zirland> HappyFool:  when i connect linux - linux it is rubbish too
[07:55] <HappyFool> jeremy913226: alternatively, just create the file yourself
[07:55] <Stormx2> drake dapper
[07:55] <selinium> halibut: are you using rosegarden already?
[07:55] <Stormx2> that is rubbish :-\
[07:55] <Zirland> HappyFool:  no Windows involved
[07:55] <HappyFool> Zirland: when you ssh from what to waht ?
[07:56] <jenda> Dapper Drake
[07:56] <`3viL|aLc0h0Lic> selinium, what's your goal?
[07:56] <halibut> selinium, no
[07:56] <hedonick> Stormx2: evern better... they're putting in fiber into my apartment building (not active until April or so... but they fiber conduits were put down now)..
[07:56] <hybrid_goth> whats a dapper?
[07:56] <Stormx2> dapper is the new dev version of ubuntu
[07:56] <hedonick> hybrid_goth: it's a adjective
[07:56] <hybrid_goth> and when are they going to start the Grumpy repos?
[07:56] <Stormx2> After breezy...
[07:56] <hybrid_goth> err drake
[07:56] <Stormx2> XD
[07:56] <jeremy913226> HappyFool, :0 -proftpd is not installed!!
[07:56] <hybrid_goth> what kind of animal is the next distro?
[07:56] <Stormx2> Lets make a new name for dapper
[07:56] <HappyFool> a drake is a male duck, i believe
[07:56] <HappyFool> jeremy913226: ah-ha
[07:56] <shaun_> hybrid_goth: marked by up-to-dateness in dress and manners; "a dapper young man"; "a jaunty red hat"
[07:56] <jeremy913226> HappyFool, :'(
[07:56] <HappyFool> jeremy913226: so install it ;)
[07:56] <Stormx2> Ubuntu Extream-O edition
[07:57] <jeremy913226> my apt-get install doesen't work
[07:57] <hybrid_goth> hey anythings better then Vista
[07:57] <hybrid_goth> jeremy913226: check /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:57] <jeremy913226> HappyFool, I always get E: could not find package xxxx or somesuch
[07:57] <hedonick> shaun_: or as in "O Brother..." Clooney says "I'm a Dapper Dan man, dammit" :)
[07:57] <Zirland> HappyFool:  in xterm (ububtu) i run ssh connection to another linux machine, where i have e.g. irssi screen
[07:57] <jenda> hybrid_goth: dapper:  Lively and alert.
[07:57] <jeremy913226> hybrid_goth, I have the .au mirror
[07:57] <cusco> hi
[07:57] <spencer__> I just installed Breezy and I'm having some problem with my printer. I have an Epson stylus color 480sxu. When I try to print the test page it hangs in the print que. One other piece of info - the printer port shows , hp no_device_found.
[07:57] <hybrid_goth> jenda: yea alot better then Vista
[07:57] <Zirland> HappyFool:  and in this screen i read the rubbis
[07:57] <GTroy> lost connection, and virtual desktop after shutdown -h, should I reinstall?
[07:57] <selinium> Seveas, I am trying to convert a folder full of raw file into jpegs at the command line.  dcraw -c ~/Desktop/raw/*.CRW | cjpeg > ~/Desktop/jpegs/*.jpeg only creates the one file *.jpeg
[07:58] <hybrid_goth> jeremy913226: have you apt-get updated?
[07:58] <cusco> when I reboot my pc it never shuts down
[07:58] <hybrid_goth> jeremy913226: since you last edited?
[07:58] <cusco> it goes down but stays on with a black screen
[07:58] <jeremy913226> hybrid_goth, aptget install apt-get :S
[07:58] <jenda> hybrid_goth: What ain't a lot better than Vista...?
[07:58] <hybrid_goth> jenda: dapper err anything
[07:58] <hybrid_goth> i like the name alot better
[07:58] <Seveas> selinium, for X in ~/Desktop/raw/*.CRW; do draw -c $X | cjpeg > $X; done
[07:58] <shaun_> I wonder if I will be able to use Xubuntu on a 133mhz notebook
[07:58] <jenda> hybrid_goth: Yes, the name too, :)
[07:59] <hybrid_goth> shaun_: possib;y
[07:59] <qbase> are there a solution to the problem with the network stops working after a upgrade to breezy?
[07:59] <hybrid_goth> shaun_: do an server install on it
[07:59] <jeremy913226> hybrid_goth, i updated... i'll try again now
[07:59] <selinium> Seveas, Cheers! Fabulous!
[07:59] <Cryptid> shaun_, what is xubuntu????
[07:59] <gean> i was trying some days befor to install k3b (ok, gnomebaker is also here, but there is some affinity to what i knew before..) It was not possible, the package libqt-mt was the weak point: I have libqt3-mt installed (default), but k3b requires the existence of some libqt-mt.so.3 ; ubuntu shippes libqt-mt.so.3.3.4 and linking it as libqt-mt.so.3 was giving some segmentation fault. Any idea what can i do. On the other hand, there is also a telephon
[07:59] <gean> y package (skype) also requiring some libqt3c102-mt . This is too much coincidence for me. How can i get the correct libraries ?!
[07:59] <Seveas> selinium, needs some tweaking in the last $X
[07:59] <hybrid_goth> Cryptid: ubuntu with XFCE
[07:59] <jenda> Cryptid: Ubuntu+XFCE
[07:59] <shaun_> Cryptid: It's Ubuntu with XFCE desktop environment
[07:59] <jenda> Yes, it is!
[07:59] <selinium> Seveas, I'll give it a go!
[07:59] <hybrid_goth> Xfce is nice
[07:59] <BooZee> how can I uninstall all the files and packages which were a must for a certain program ?
[08:00] <hybrid_goth> but i like ubunTUX better then Xubuntu
[08:00] <Cryptid> I tried to isntall azureus using java -jar command but i am getting an error please take a look at it http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3839 and tell me what to do...
[08:00] <hybrid_goth> and i love the xubuntu logo
[08:00] <Seveas> selinium, if you run it the way I gave it, you'll lose your files
[08:00] <Seveas> please beware :)
[08:00] <jenda> hybrid_goth: You're right. UbuntuX
[08:00] <shaun_> Have you seen the Xubuntu animated logo?
[08:00] <HappyFool> Zirland: hrm. i'm a bit stumped. my initial guess would be wrong TERM setting, but it looks right.
[08:00] <lilg> Hey all, im currently running a fedora core 4 installation... and i wish to switch to ubuntu breezy but installing it on my server box didnt goto well and im not sure whethere i should make the switch the installtion seemed to get stuck retreiving packages at 6% has anyone had any similar problems or know if its been fixed?
[08:00] <BooZee> how can I uninstall all the files and packages which were a must for a certain program ?
[08:00] <selinium> Seveas, k
[08:00] <jenda> hybrid_goth: What's it look like? Link?
[08:00] <jeremy913226> hybrid_goth, "E: Couldn't find package proftpd
[08:01] <jeremy913226> "
[08:01] <selinium> Seveas, just the output though right?
[08:01] <jeremy913226> lilg, what media were you installing off?
[08:01] <jenda> lilg: Ithink it's the CD's foult. Try again (and hope)
[08:01] <lilg> a cd-r
[08:01] <lilg> jenda: i had burnt 3 cd's off and all had the same problem
[08:01] <Aven> hello!
[08:01] <Aven> can someone send me a copy of /etc/init.d/apache2.sh ?
[08:02] <Aven> I accidently deleted it :\
[08:02] <hybrid_goth> jenda: wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu it is XFCE blue with a mouse in the middle and someone made a gif with the mouse in the middle making it go around and around
[08:02] <gean> lilg : some parallel problems were reported here: get the ubuntu install cd once more and make sure the MD5SUM is ok ! ( this was the 1st trial )
[08:02] <hybrid_goth> jeremy913226: make sure your repos are enabled
[08:02] <jeremy913226> lilg, if it was a  cd-r that was mailed to you, they seem dodgy... i got 10 or so and only 3 worked (tested in TWO drives)
[08:02] <lilg> and even installed it on a diffrent machine with the same HD and had the same problem
[08:02] <Jhair> BooZee: you can use deborphan or debfoster to clean up your system in that case
[08:02] <jeremy913226> hybrid_goth, I dont know how to do that..
[08:02] <lilg> jeremy913226: no i had made it at home
[08:02] <BooZee> Jhair:  how do I install it and use it?
[08:02] <gean> i had to download more than 5 times the ubuntu-5.10 iso to get the correct MD5SUM
[08:03] <hybrid_goth> jeremy913226: ok do this. in terminal type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:03] <HappyFool> Aven: have you tried 'apt-get install --reinstall apache2' ? (not sure how that will affect your config files)
[08:03] <Seveas> Aven, it's called /etc/init.d/apache2
[08:03] <Seveas> Aven, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3840
[08:03] <dell500> is there an ID3 or 4 tag app for easy editing of mp3s?
[08:03] <lilg> ah im on the laptop now and want to install it to here, this is why im not sure whether to do it
[08:03] <hybrid_goth> jeremy913226: you will see urls and sentences. anything that starts with deb delete all the # before it on that line
[08:03] <lilg> dell500: ooo i want to find the same anwser
[08:04] <dell500> lilg, oh ya
[08:04] <Jhair> BooZee: apt-get deborphan debfoster, deborphan will show you all packages with no other packages depending on them.
[08:04] <Aven> Seveas: that's the code?
[08:04] <hybrid_goth> dell500: h/o
[08:04] <Aven> for apache2.sh ?
[08:04] <lilg> dell500: there is a really nice one for windows but ewww should try and wine it
[08:04] <dell500> nah
[08:04] <Seveas> Aven, yes
[08:04] <hybrid_goth> eyed3
[08:04] <Jhair> BooZee: apt-get install deborphan debfoster, take a look at the man page for both packages
[08:04] <Aven> TY!
[08:04] <jenda> hybrid_goth: One cool logo. What's with the mice?
[08:04] <hybrid_goth> jenda: it is the logo of Xfce
[08:04] <maxblack> is breezy a good release?
[08:05] <dell500> is it ID3 or 4 now?
[08:05] <dell500> ID4?
[08:05] <jeremy913226> hybrid_goth, ok
[08:05] <jenda> hybrid_goth: I got that part. :)
[08:05] <WalrusU> I'm reading instructions that tell me to edit ~/.xsession , I cannot find a folder named ~. where is this?
[08:05] <lilg> i have the iso for 5.10 is it possible to install it from the net or something or from a machine inside my network?
[08:05] <hybrid_goth> jenda: ok then i dont understand your questin :(
[08:05] <TestDummy> WalrusU: It's probably hidden.
[08:05] <lilg> WalrisU, it means .xsession
[08:05] <Aven> how do I move the apache2.sh to the /etc/init.d folder using sudo?
[08:05] <dell500> lilg: on the ubuntu guide for 5.04 it has EasyTag
[08:06] <Aven> (command?)
[08:06] <jeremy913226> hybrid_goth, then writeout?
[08:06] <HappyFool> WalrusU: ~ means your home directory (possibly '/home/walrus')
[08:06] <hybrid_goth> jeremy913226: delete the #'s before every 'deb'
[08:06] <lilg> dell500: does it have it in 5.10?
[08:06] <HappyFool> Aven: it's *not* apache2.sh, it's just apache
[08:06] <Aven> Hf: yeah, that :P
[08:06] <WalrusU> HappyFool: Oh! :)
[08:06] <jenda> hybrid_goth: Nevermind. Sorry - my bad. You answered it just right.
[08:06] <jeremy913226> hybrid_goth, i have.. I just want to save changes
[08:06] <dell500> lilg: sudo apt-get install easytag
[08:06] <HappyFool> Aven: try 'sudo mv apache2 /etc/init.d/apache2'
[08:06] <hybrid_goth> jenda: oh ok lol
[08:06] <bobbyd> hi
[08:07] <bobbyd> where do I put commands I always want ot run on login (remote or local)?
[08:07] <lilg> ah havent got a ubuntu install YET
[08:07] <jenda> Are we just chattin' or is there someone that needs help?
[08:07] <Cryptid> hybrid_goth, which desktop enviorment do u prefer???
[08:07] <lilg> going to burn off 5.10 and try woo
[08:07] <WalrusU> hmm, I have .xsession-errors, but no .xsession
[08:08] <hybrid_goth> Cryptid: when i use GUI i like Xfce, but i prefer screen, which is a command line program that gives you multiple terminals :D
[08:08] <HappyFool> WalrusU: you probably need to create it
[08:08] <jeremy913226> jenda, I *definitely* need help
[08:08] <JDigital> How do I play DVD?
[08:08] <erUSUL> bobbyd, in .bashrc
[08:08] <WalrusU> okay. there's just not one there by default?
[08:08] <hybrid_goth> Cryptid: do you like OSX look and feel? or Windows?
[08:08] <HappyFool> erUSUL: unless breezy is different in this regard, .bashrc is not sourced on gdm login
[08:08] <erUSUL> !tell JDigital about dvd
[08:08] <hybrid_goth> Cryptid: or do you want something totally different?
[08:08] <Cryptid> haven used OSX but from few screenshots i've seen i like it
[08:08] <Aven> /etc/init.d/apache2: command not found
[08:08] <Aven> I keep getting that :\
[08:09] <hybrid_goth> Cryptid: well Xfce or Gnome would be most like it
[08:09] <derchilligephil> hey guys
[08:09] <Seveas> Aven, that's because you named it apache2.sh
[08:09] <derchilligephil> ive got a problem with data loss
[08:09] <Seveas> cut off the .sh
[08:09] <Aven> Seveas: I did cut it off
[08:09] <HappyFool> Aven: do you have the 'mv' command you used still on the terminal? cut-and-paste it to here
[08:09] <Cryptid> i am using gnome at present and i like its simplicity but i have no idea about xfce
[08:09] <Aven> it shows as "apach3"
[08:09] <JDigital> !tell JDigital about DVD
[08:09] <selinium> Seveas, ~/Desktop/Christening/$X.jpeg: ambiguous redirect
[08:09] <selinium>     Any ideas?
[08:10] <jenda> jeremy913226: scrolling upwards, I'd reckon a repository problem, no?
[08:10] <derchilligephil> i had some data in /tmp, then i reboot my machine and everything has been deleted
[08:10] <HappyFool> Aven: 1 line only
[08:10] <Aven> HappyFool: it's currently in the folder
[08:10] <derchilligephil> can i get i tback
[08:10] <JDigital> thx
[08:10] <hybrid_goth> Cryptid: Xfce is small very small
[08:10] <Fructose> Is there a way to disable Totem as an embedded media player in Firefox, but leave it installed?
[08:10] <HappyFool> Aven: which folder?
[08:10] <dell500> to get access to my raid dir do i just use sudo <command> to get complete access to read/write?
[08:10] <hybrid_goth> Cryptid: it has the same underbelly as Gnome
[08:10] <erUSUL> HappyFool, fair enaugh then .bash_profile in which there is a source call to .bashrc so it is the same .bashrc is always called
[08:10] <Seveas> selinium, come to -offtopic and paste the complete command you used there
[08:10] <Aven> in /etc/init.d
[08:10] <hybrid_goth> Fructose: uninstall the plugin
[08:10] <selinium> Seveas, k
[08:10] <bolrod> Fructose: remove plugin
[08:10] <WalrusU> Fructose: choose another media player as the default, I'm using XMMS myself
[08:10] <derchilligephil> i had some data in /tmp, then i reboot my machine and everything has been deleted
[08:10] <Fructose> How do I remove the plugin?
[08:10] <bolrod> from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[08:10] <Fructose> Or choose another media player as the default?
[08:10] <derchilligephil> is there a nice data recovery tool for ext3?
[08:10] <HappyFool> erUSUL: is .bash_profile sourced? I'm not trying to be pedantic, I'd love to know how to get stuff set for GDM and 'other' (ssh/whatever) login common
[08:10] <hybrid_goth> Fructose: through synaptic search for totem plugin
[08:11] <bolrod> ?
[08:11] <jeremy913226> jenda, possibly. I'm not able to install anything from apt-get, unless i supply an explicit url for the source
[08:11] <HappyFool> Aven: 'ls -l /etc/init.d/apache2' ?
[08:11] <Aven> what's that do?
[08:11] <erUSUL> HappyFool, do a less .bash_profile you see the call to .bashrc
[08:11] <bolrod> jeremy913226 your sources list still ok?
[08:11] <HappyFool> erUSUL: my point is GDM does not source either of those files
[08:12] <Cryptid> hybrid_goth, oh in that case xfce is good for computers with limited resources
[08:12] <erUSUL> HappyFool, use the source Luke ;)
[08:12] <Fructose> hybrid_goth: totem, and totem-xine are the only two things I have installed from that search, and I've already tried removing them, but it removes the media player as well
[08:12] <HappyFool> erUSUL: or so i believe
[08:12] <hybrid_goth> Cryptid: yup :D
[08:12] <jeremy913226> bolrod, I think so.. I just updated
[08:12] <HappyFool> Aven: lists the file and it's modes
[08:13] <Fructose> WalrusU: How do you change default media player?
[08:13] <bolrod> reconfigure apt
[08:13] <bolrod> ?
[08:13] <jeremy913226> bolrod, I use the .au mirror
[08:13] <Aven> -rw-r--r--  1 aven aven 4430 2005-10-30 11:04 /etc/init.d/apache2
[08:13] <WalrusU> erUSUL: he doesn't have the necessary dependancies to use his lightsaber
[08:13] <Aven> is what it shows
[08:13] <JDigital> Hey, I folloed that instructions on "tell JDigital about DVD" but it didn't help. In fact, it downgraded my version of libdvdcss2.
[08:13] <jeremy913226> Fructose, I  installed one and uninstalled the other
[08:13] <avinoam> Question- I see that there is a language pack (in hebrew) only for OO and not for oo2- what is the ramification of that?
[08:13] <HappyFool> Aven: ok, first 'sudo chown root:root /etc/init.d/apache2'
[08:13] <WalrusU> Fructose: sudo update-alternatives I think... no wait, that's not for media files. Damn, I don't know
[08:13] <HappyFool> Aven: and then 'sudo chmod a+x /etc/init.d/apache2'
[08:13] <Aven> Ahhh
[08:13] <HappyFool> Aven: and then try again
[08:13] <Aven> it was supposed to be sudo sh etc/init.d/apache2
[08:13] <erUSUL> HappyFool, i understand that the initial question was about ssh.
[08:14] <Aven> erm, woops
[08:14] <Aven> one more question
[08:14] <hybrid_goth> Aven: i love your leaving msg
[08:14] <Aven> is there a command to stop all port 80?
[08:14] <lilg> with tar how do i tar up everything in my home dir?
[08:14] <Aven> hehe
[08:14] <HappyFool> erUSUL: <bobbyd> where do I put commands I always want ot run on login (remote or local)?  <--- i guess i think of local as GDM; anyway, this is a bit of a pet peeve of mine ;)
[08:14] <bolrod> Aven: ?...   /etc/init.d/apache2 start would do?
[08:14] <Ummu> where should I extract mplayer codecs to? All the normal default locations don't exist...
[08:14] <Aven> bolrod: apprently, I had to type 'sh'
[08:15] <HappyFool> Aven: 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start' ?
[08:15] <bolrod> ^.0
[08:15] <HappyFool> Aven: not after you've chmod +x'ed it
[08:15] <Fructose> So if I modify the stuff in the Firefox plugins folder, will I mess anything up?
[08:15] <Aven> Ah ok
[08:15] <Aven> Ah, yup. works :)
[08:15] <bolrod> tim@bubuntu:~ # sh /etc/init.d/apache2 * Usage: /etc/init.d/apache2 start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload
[08:15] <bolrod> :)
[08:15] <bolrod> indeed
[08:15] <titanium_> i'm trying to get a program to run on system start. i wrote a shell script and put it in /etc/init.d/, but when i try to run it, the program doesn't run because it can't find it's configuration file. the program and its config file are in /home/garrett/kaid/, and the program is 'kaid'. my script calls /home/garrett/kaid/kaid. how do i get the script to make the binary run in its home dir so it sees its config file?
[08:15] <jeremy913226> http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/pp0rn-comfort ...
[08:16] <B|4ckm0r3> hi all i would like to know if i can use double buffering how can i?
[08:16] <erUSUL> titanium_, quick and dirt... do a 'cd /hom....' after the call to the program
[08:16] <HappyFool> titanium_: maybe 'cd $(dirname $0)' somewhere near the top of the script?
[08:17] <HappyFool> titanium_: oh, that won't work if the script is in /etc/init.d
[08:17] <jeremy913226> still can't get apt-get functioning. Should i just use apt-get <http:// address>?
[08:17] <Kelsey23> what program can I use to mount Mac OS CDs?
[08:17] <erUSUL> titanium_, *before* not after my bad
[08:18] <Kelsey23> would anyone know?
[08:18] <erUSUL> jeremy913226, no you do apt-get install <package_name>
[08:19] <spencer__> Is there any good doc for setting up an epson printer?
[08:19] <jeremy913226> erUSUL, yeah - but every time i do, i get e: can't find package xxxxx
[08:19] <HappyFool> does macOS not use ISO for it's cd's ?
[08:19] <hedonick> Kelsey23: they should be ISO9660 I suspect
[08:19] <erUSUL> Kelsey23, mount? do they no mount like others
[08:19] <Kelsey23> @jermey913226 You can download .debs and use dpgk -i
[08:19] <erUSUL> !tell jeremy913226 about repos
[08:19] <Kelsey23> I put a Mac OS CD in and it didn't come up
[08:19] <erUSUL> Kelsey23, not recomended
[08:19] <jeremy913226> erUSUL, so i'm currently looking through the local uni's mirrors about to manually download proftpd >.<
[08:19] <aeon17x> !dvd
[08:19] <HappyFool> jeremy913226: put your /etc/apt/sources.list up on the pastebin
[08:19] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2 which you can obtain by installing 'libdvdread3' and then running 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[08:20] <Kelsey23> @erUSUL what do you mean?
[08:20] <HappyFool> tsk tsk, is ubotu a dmca circumvention device now? *horror*
[08:20] <aeon17x> !cd
[08:20] <ubotu> aeon17x: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:20] <erUSUL> Kelsey23, i'm totally ignorant in which filesystem type are macos cdroms built
[08:20] <jeremy913226> ! what's a pastebin :'(
[08:20] <aeon17x> !howto
[08:20] <ubotu> jeremy913226: I don't know
[08:20] <ubotu> aeon17x: I don't know
[08:20] <HappyFool> !pastebin
[08:20] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:20] <Kelsey23> @erUSUL ok
[08:20] <aeon17x> !faq
[08:20] <ubotu> The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation, or http://help.ubuntu.com
[08:21] <Aven> btw, thanks for all the help! :)
[08:21] <lilg> if i tar -cvzf home.tgz * does that include the hidden files and things like .gaim, .irssi ?
[08:21] <lalmeras> no
[08:21] <El_Che> lalmeras: no
[08:21] <dennis> hello guys
[08:22] <dennis> I just installed ubuntu hoary 5.04
[08:22] <lalmeras> tar -cvzf home.tgz * .* yes
[08:22] <dennis> Is there a quick way to update to breezy badger?
[08:22] <cusco> hi! when I reboot my machine it doesn't get to shut down.. the system goes down but it stays running with a blackscreen
[08:22] <titanium_> ok i got my script to work, it runs the program, but it runs it in the foreground. ie when i do /etc/init.d/myscript.sh start, it takes over my terminal with the program, instead of running it in the background. how do i fix that?
[08:22] <_jason> ubotu:  tell dennis about breezy
[08:22] <JDigital> Ugh.
[08:22] <dennis> Thank you _jason
[08:22] <joevandyk> Can someone help me set up a NIS server?
[08:22] <_jason> dennis:  you're welcome
[08:22] <El_Che> tar cvzf home.tar.gz /home/USERNAME or tar cvzf home.tar.gz * .*
[08:22] <lilg> lalmeras: thanks ill just zip up some confs ooo 10 gig to go
[08:22] <erUSUL> titanium_, put and & after the comand
[08:23] <titanium_> erUSUL: is that a proper way to run something on startup?
[08:23] <jeremy913226> the paste is up, under name : jeremy
[08:23] <joevandyk> I have a Ubuntu system here that I'd like to share files with other computers on the network.  But when I try to mount the shared directory, I get 'permission denied' errors.
[08:23] <HappyFool> titanium_: imo your program should daemonize itself
[08:23] <titanium_> HappyFool: the program is not one i wrote and it is not open source
[08:23] <jeremy913226> (wow, that's a really clever system. who invented it..?)
[08:24] <nagual> I am trying to edit my fstab from the live cd, because I add a wrong command in it.  How can I do this?
[08:24] <erUSUL> titanium_, i do not know.. what type of program it is... take a lok at  /etc/init.d/skeleton
[08:24] <joevandyk> The error I get when I try to mount the nfs directory is mount_nfs: /big: Operation not permitted
[08:24] <masta_> can i mount an mdf? or is there a way to convert it to an iso? it's a dvd, and mdf2iso says it's too big.
[08:24] <bobbyd> joevandyk, one solution is to have a group on all the machines and make all the users part of it, it needs to have the same UID on all machines.
[08:24] <HappyFool> titanium_: ah. well, maybe     'foo &> /dev/null &' is an idea; i don't know where the program's output (if any) will go otherwise
[08:25] <titanium_> HappyFool: there is no output, it just needs to be running
[08:25] <nagual> my hd install of ubuntu won't boot, because of a wrong fstab entry.  how can I edit the fstab of the hard drive from the live cd?
[08:25] <bobbyd> joevandyk, you need to mount it using sudo unless it has the 'user' option in the fstab
[08:25] <bobbyd> joevandyk, ignore my first comment :)
[08:25] <joevandyk> bobbyd, I am mounting it via sudo.  Using a mac as the client, btw.
[08:25] <Boobek> re
[08:26] <erUSUL> nagual, mount the partition and you are done
[08:26] <SGershon> Hi! I managed to connect by the wireless interface, so now it will be easier to get your help!
[08:26] <joevandyk> bobbyd, So they don't all need to be in the same group?
[08:26] <bobbyd> joevandyk, have you added the mount to exports on the server for the IP of the mac?
[08:26] <nagual> when I try sudo mount /dev/hda it says can't find /dev/hda in /etc/fstab
[08:26] <bobbyd> joevandyk, nope, I was on the wrong track :)
[08:26] <erUSUL> nagual, something like mount -t ext3 /dev/hdxx /mnt
[08:26] <HappyFool> titanium_: then & is fine
[08:26] <SGershon> My wired ethernet adapter was never recognized, so I could not connect at home.
[08:26] <B|4ckm0r3> there's a way to check if double-buffering is supported by X?
[08:27] <SGershon> Now I came to a Wirelessplace, and it seems to recognize my ethernet adapter.
[08:27] <SGershon> What is the way to be sure?
[08:27] <erUSUL> nagual, then nano /mnt/etc/fstab
[08:27] <nagual> that worked erUSUL .  thx
[08:27] <joevandyk> bobbyd, Yes, I think so.  /home/joe       192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0(rw,no_root_squash,async)
[08:27] <joevandyk> and my mac is on that network.
[08:27] <erUSUL> nagual, you are wellcome
[08:28] <hedonick> B|4ckm0r3: you could try xvinfo
[08:28] <SGershon> So, summary: My Marvell Yukon LOM NIC seems to be recognized well now. How can I become sure of this?
[08:28] <JDigital> Why is mplayer crashing when I attempt to play a DVD?
[08:28] <joevandyk> bobbyd, and I added "portmap: 192.168 127.0.0.1" to /etc/hosts.allow
[08:28] <bobbyd> joevandyk, did you restart the nfs server?
[08:28] <nagual> ok.  that did work and it mounted the hard drive, but when I go to the fstab it isn't the right one erUSUL
[08:28] <joevandyk> bobbyd, many times.  and rebooted many times.
[08:28] <B|4ckm0r3> hedonick:  it says 1 so EVERY app that use double buffering should work right?
[08:29] <bobbyd> joetheodd, can you mount it on the local machine?
[08:29] <bobbyd> joevandyk, or from another linux box?
[08:29] <HappyFool> nagual: do 'sudo fdisk -l' to find all your partitions, and work through each
[08:29] <hedonick> B|4ckm0r3:don't know actually
[08:29] <titanium_> ok i used skeleton.sh to make my startup script but i dont know what the hell is going on in skeleton and i need to cd /path/to/binary before running it so that the binary can find its config file.
[08:29] <SGershon> Someone knows?
[08:29] <jeremy913226> to install proftpd for a lampp install, do i want a standalone install or inetd install?
[08:29] <joevandyk> bobbyd, joe@big:~$ sudo mount big:/home/joe /tmp/joe
[08:29] <joevandyk> mount: big:/home/joe failed, reason given by server: Permission denied
[08:29] <bobbyd> joevandyk, one thing to try is running ethereal on the server and trying to mount on the client, you should be able to see if it's network related
[08:30] <JDigital> It's weird. mplayer crashes.
[08:30] <aeon17x> SGershon: try connecting with it.
[08:30] <JDigital> I don't think it's meant to do that.
[08:31] <B|4ckm0r3> hedonick:  tnx and another question!i've installed XFT i've to restart gnome (and they will be enabled...) or should i enable them manually?
[08:31] <jeremy913226> HappyFool, to install proftpd for a lampp install, do i want a standalone install or inetd install?
[08:31] <SGershon> aeon17x, :) I am away from home (where my wired connection is). I came here, because there it was not recognized, and I don't have wireless at home. Now that I came here, it SEEMS to recognize it.
[08:31] <Joseph> Can anyone help me? KDE freezes.
[08:31] <SGershon> How to be sure?
[08:31] <aeon17x> I don't know.
[08:32] <joevandyk> bobbyd, So, no, can't mount from local machine.
[08:32] <kemik> !lm_sensors
[08:32] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, kemik
[08:32] <zyph> hey
[08:32] <bobbyd> joevandyk, can you see portmap and the nfs server running and listening when you run "sudo netstat -tap" ?
[08:32] <JDigital> So like is there an FAQ for when mplayer crashes playing DVD
[08:33] <JDigital> like an anti-crash FAQ maybe
[08:33] <SGershon> Is there a way to know the name it gave to the eth0?
[08:33] <masta_> is there a way to get mdf2iso to accept dvd mdfs? it says they are too large.
[08:33] <SGershon> To see if it recognizes with the full name?>
[08:33] <HappyFool> jeremy913226: standalone is probably simpler, but i don't know what's best
[08:33] <MaTaKs> how can i play .wmv file?
[08:33] <zyph> i'm having problems loading a module
[08:33] <bobbyd> MaTaKs, check the wiki about win32 codecs
[08:35] <JDigital> It sucks when Windows can do something without any trouble, but even the most "user-friendly" Linux can't do it!
[08:35] <MaTaKs> i already installed them
[08:35] <SGershon> No... lspci still says: 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.: Unknown device 4351 (rev 10)
[08:35] <SGershon> So I believe it is not working.
[08:35] <_jason> MaTaKs:  what player are you using?  do you get some sort of error?
[08:35] <SGershon> Someone available to help me setup?
[08:35] <bobbyd> JDigital, linux can do that, just not on your box apparently.
[08:35] <HappyFool> JDigital: i've had reasonable success with totem-xine
[08:35] <jeremy913226> HappyFool, thanks, I'll do that. I already have the xampp install, just minus fpt (i had a fpt daemon running during the xampp install)
[08:35] <zyph> anyone here have a nvidia card with video in?
[08:35] <MaTaKs> i try totem vlc and mplayer but it won't play
[08:35] <HappyFool> JDigital: you can also try vlc
[08:35] <zyph> vlc rules
[08:35] <joevandyk> bobbyd, hm, nfs doesn't seem to be running.. when I tried to start nfs-kernel-server, the "Starting rpc mountd" step failed.
[08:35] <_jason> MaTaKs:  have you tried different wmv files?
[08:35] <bobbyd> joevandyk, that'll be the problem then :)
[08:35] <MaTaKs> _jason,  yes
[08:35] <JDigital> Since the day I installed Linux I have not once gotten totem to play correctly. I ignore it.
[08:35] <shaun_> MaTaKs: I like Rhythmbox
[08:35] <SGershon> because installing Breezy did not solve the problem.
[08:35] <bobbyd> joetheodd, do "tail -f /var/log/syslog" in one window and try to start it in another
[08:35] <zyph> JDigital i like vlc
[08:35] <bobbyd> joevandyk, do "tail -f /var/log/syslog" in one window and try to start it in another
[08:35] <_jason> MaTaKs:  how did you install w32codecs
[08:36] <bobbyd> joetheodd, sorry :)
[08:36] <joevandyk> bobbyd, ack, stupid ctrl-w not working.  what did you say last?
[08:36] <bobbyd> joevandyk, do "tail -f /var/log/syslog" in one window and try to start it in another
[08:36] <joevandyk> thanks
[08:36] <zyph> _jason check out www.ubuntuforums.org
[08:36] <JDigital> I like mplayer. mplayer used to do DVD playing. This is either something that broke ugprading to Breezy, or broke when I followed the instructions that damned bot gav eme.
[08:36] <zyph> _jason search for win32codecs
[08:36] <shutdownrunner> JDigital:try totem-xine
[08:36] <NetDreamz> anyone have VHCS on ubuntu breezy?
[08:36] <joevandyk> bobbyd, no messages
[08:36] <_jason> zyph:  just trying to help out MaTaKs, he's having some problems with them
[08:36] <zyph> JDigital i haven't tried mine out yet
[08:37] <zyph> _jason oh lol ok
[08:37] <zyph> _jason that's how i got mine
[08:37] <bobbyd> joevandyk, try to start it by hand then, run nfsd
[08:37] <Kejk_PL> marillat mplayer packages are working fine in Breezy
[08:37] <SGershon> I've tried what is written in Ubuntu forums, and HiddenWolf and sn9 tried to help me.
[08:37] <joevandyk> bobbyd, Where's that file located?
[08:37] <MaTaKs> the rest of my wmv file is playing, but this is not
[08:37] <SGershon> But now it is the first time I'm connected from linux (30 min to go).
[08:37] <bobbyd> joevandyk, ummmm :)
[08:38] <SGershon> So it is a good opportunity for me! ;)
[08:38] <joevandyk> bobbyd, you mean rpc.nfsd?
[08:38] <MaTaKs> the other wmv file has an image icon, know what i mean?
[08:38] <joevandyk> bobbyd, I have /sbin/rpc.nfsd
[08:38] <zyph> i'm having problems with loading a module i built from source
[08:38] <bobbyd> joevandyk, maybe that's it
[08:38] <bhearsum> ever since my last dist-upgrade the file selector for gtk has become really small. it opens up at normal size and immediately shrinks to something unusable
[08:38] <Kejk_PL> are there any offcial OpneOffice2 DEBs for Hoary?
[08:38] <zyph> i did make install but i don't think it installed the module where it was supposed to
[08:38] <_jason> MaTaKs:  iirc the latest wmv wncryption cannot be played... that may be the problem
[08:39] <bobbyd> joevandyk, anyway, that's your problem, try to run it in the foreground in a console to work out what's wrong
[08:39] <_jason> MaTaKs:  encoding*
[08:39] <SGershon> Do you want me to binpaste my lspci?
[08:39] <bobbyd> joevandyk, if it comes to it, just completely remove it using synaptic then install again
[08:39] <MaTaKs> then how can i play this?
[08:39] <joevandyk> bobbyd, there's no errors when I start it.  Ok, I'll try that.
[08:39] <SGershon> or my ifconfig?
[08:39] <_jason> MaTaKs:  if this file is available online i can tell you if it plays for me
[08:39] <MaTaKs> when i try to play using totem i got the error: This file is encrypted and cannot be played back.
[08:40] <BeGu> you dont have right codecs maybe?
[08:40] <halibut> is there a 64bit ubuntu, and will I notice speed increase if I get a 64bit processor?
[08:40] <SGershon> If you want me to pastebin some output, just let me know!
[08:40] <lsuactiafner> halibut : yes and yes
[08:40] <J4k3-> Two things:  A> Wheres can one add a compiler, B> if you're too cheap to buy a proper cert for your website, don't run a wiki behind https - this is an OPEN project, its simply annoying.
[08:40] <kbrooks> lsuactiafner: yes and no
[08:40] <kbrooks> lsuactiafner: corrected
[08:41] <lsuactiafner> halibut : but get 64bit athlon
[08:41] <WhyvasLT> halibut, 64 bit processors are much slower, that's why they're the new technology and are more expensive
[08:41] <halibut> kbrooks, so what are the advantages?
[08:41] <foxiness> anyone hava idea about autopackage on breezy ?
[08:41] <BeGu> yes and I don't know :)
[08:41] <Quest-Master> What is the minimum space needed for a partition of a Breezy installation?
[08:41] <_jason> MaTaKs:  I don't know of a way to play wmv10 files
[08:41] <halibut> WhyvasLT, I wasn't suggesting they are slower
[08:41] <halibut> I just wanted to know what kind of speed increases I would be looking at
[08:41] <lsuactiafner> kbrooks : if i run the same exact 32bit binary of firefox, in ubuntu 32bit and 64bit ubuntu 64bit ubuntu is much faster
[08:41] <joevandyk> bobbyd, when I try to mount the directory from the mac, it's saying something about "nfsd: request from insecure port"
[08:42] <kbrooks> J4k3-: no one here runs the ubuntu website afaict.
[08:42] <lsuactiafner> i can safe a file with ubuntu with no lag @ all
[08:42] <lsuactiafner> save
[08:42] <MaTaKs> k thnx nyway. i guess i have to play this on windows :)
[08:42] <kbrooks> J4k3-: install build-essential
[08:42] <foxiness> Quest-Master, 500 -600 on server install
[08:42] <Quest-Master> Normal.
[08:42] <joevandyk> bobbyd, and when I stop nfsd, it says "RPC: failed to contact  portmap"
[08:42] <lsuactiafner> and games are much faster, 64bit is better.
[08:42] <Quest-Master> foxiness: Normal install~
[08:42] <bobbyd> joevandyk, are you making sure nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server are running?
[08:42] <Whistler> hello
[08:43] <J4k3-> assuming linux supports the extensions, '64 bit' should be slightly more secure, too.
[08:43] <SGershon> So, today, no help?
[08:43] <foxiness> Quest-Master, more than 2 giga i think see ubuntu.com for more info
[08:43] <SGershon> ;)
[08:43] <bobbyd> joevandyk, I don't have any experience with the mac, so I'm not sure I can help with that
[08:43] <lsuactiafner> didnt ubuntu 5.10 remove rpc support?
[08:43] <Quest-Master> well.
[08:43] <SGershon> I understand.
[08:43] <shutdownrunner> Kejk_PL: sprobuj na ftp.linux.cz. nie wiem czy znajdziesz tam oficjalne, ale pod hoary moze pojda. bo backportow,to chyba raczej nie ma
[08:43] <Quest-Master> I gave the installer 10 GB to use and it said that wasn't enough.
[08:43] <SGershon> I even tried to compile the sk98lin driver, but it have some weird error of not getting to some directory, and it didnt worked!
[08:44] <joevandyk> bobbyd, when I try to mount the exported directory on the same machine that's exporting it, I get "mount: RPC: Program not registered"
[08:44] <foxiness> no to 10 GB this one CD ;)
[08:44] <ATIProblem> hi all!
[08:44] <joevandyk> bobbyd, ack, nevermind about htat
[08:44] <ATIProblem> can someone help me in private chat? ;_
[08:45] <atbrandt> hi all.. just bothering you to say that i just installed ubuntu, and it is the first distro that (except for WPA) works out of the box. It is fast and slick. IOW; It realy rocks. I wonder if i'll ever go back to fedora. They heve some serious catching up to do.
[08:45] <SGershon> So, today that I'm connected for the first timein linux, I could use some help... How to properly intall my wired network device? (now I'm on WiFi)
[08:45] <Quest-Master> foxiness: what?
[08:45] <ATIProblem> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME!?
[08:46] <SGershon> ATIProblem, what's your problem?
[08:46] <HappyFool> ATIProblem: not if you're going to shout
[08:46] <bobbyd> ATIProblem, no, not if you shout and no, no in a private chat
[08:46] <Kelsey23> so if I use dd to rip a cd, could that me mounted in ISO form?
[08:46] <bobbyd> ATIProblem, ask your question
[08:46] <atbrandt> hi SGershon; WEP works WPA can probably be made to work. What do you have?
[08:46] <Cryptid> how do i untar  a .tar.bz2 file ??????????????
[08:46] <ATIProblem> can u help me install ati drivers? :) that tutorial in forum doesn't hel me...
[08:46] <rzr> I can boot [Ubunutu]  5.04 but it get stuck just after :
[08:46] <rzr>  Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
[08:46] <rzr>  Checking for popad bug... OK.
[08:46] <joevandyk> bobbyd, ok, when nfsd starts, I get "RPC: failed to contact portmap"
[08:46] <rzr> any idea .
[08:46] <bobbyd> Cryptid, tar -vjvf file
[08:46] <Kelsey23> anyone?
[08:46] <SGershon> I have an OnBoard Marvell Yukon
[08:46] <SGershon> on a toshiba laptop/
[08:46] <pfloyd37> ANyone else having problems using the deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse repository?
[08:46] <bobbyd> Cryptid, and, only one question mark please :)
[08:46] <HappyFool> Cryptid: tar xjf file.tar.bz2   (or xjvf)
[08:46] <titanium_> YES, my startup script works! thanks guys
[08:47] <shutdownrunner> ATIProblem:you install restricted modules, add several lines to xorg.conf and that's it
[08:47] <SGershon> atbrandt, lspci says: 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.: Unknown device 4351 (rev 10)
[08:47] <bobbyd> joevandyk, ok well, looks like portmap isn't running
[08:47] <atbrandt> SGershon; I mean the WIFI network that you are trying to connect to.
[08:47] <yohan> im trying this tutorial but i get an error when doing sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.18.8-i386.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/breezysudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.18.8-i386.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/breezy
[08:47] <yohan> can anyone help me?
[08:47] <HappyFool> !tell ATIProblem about ati
[08:47] <yohan> double paste there, sorry
[08:47] <titanium_> one question about /etc/motd though: i keep editing it to what i want, and ubuntu keeps inserting "Linux <boxname> 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 ..." at the top of the motd file. how do i make it stop doing that? >:(
[08:47] <ATIProblem> shutdownrunner mhm... i need to install newest ati driver, you can help me or not?
[08:47] <yohan> i get first this cp: cannot stat `./debian/70fglrx': No such file or directory
[08:48] <SGershon> atbrandt: My wifi is 0000:06:04.0 Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05)
[08:48] <atbrandt> SGershon; don't you see your card in Administration -> networking?
[08:48] <yohan> then this: dh_install: command returned error code 256
[08:48] <yohan> dh_install: command returned error code 256
[08:48] <shutdownrunner> I think that the latest drivers are already available in repository,aren't they?
[08:48] <yohan> :(
[08:48] <yohan> shutdownrunner: are you talking to me?
[08:48] <JDigital> hey, totem-xine works
[08:48] <atbrandt> SGershon; probably you need NDISWRAPPER and a windows driver
[08:48] <shutdownrunner> no yohan. to ATIProblem
[08:49] <JDigital> I still like mplayer though :)
[08:49] <SGershon> NDISWRAPPER... should I 'man' it?
[08:50] <atbrandt> SGershon; no.
[08:50] <shutdownrunner> JDigital:I just hope that gstreamer 0.9 will work as well as I hope it to. because now I have to play my movies using totem and mplayer
[08:50] <atbrandt> SGershon; google your card and find a howto
[08:50] <shutdownrunner> they are good for different types of movies
[08:50] <JDigital> man I thought this DVD was better quality
[08:50] <joevandyk> bobbyd, Ok, I've got the nfs directory to mount on the same machine.  Now, just have to figure out why when I to to use the mac as a client, I get "nfsd: request from insecure port"
[08:50] <pfloyd37> anyone having issues with the deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse repositories?
[08:50] <SGershon> atbrandt: I found that I should use sk98lin driver
[08:50] <masta__> i do i convert a dvd mdf to iso?
[08:50] <atbrandt> SGershon; you will have to do some work i'm afraid
[08:50] <SGershon> I am not afraid of hard work. I just need some directions.
[08:50] <SGershon> ;)
[08:50] <yohan> anyone know any place where i can ask for help? I cant google this :/
[08:51] <hedonick> SGershon: that's your pickup line at bars? ;-)
[08:51] <JDigital> "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?"
[08:51] <JDigital> hurrr
[08:51] <SGershon> hedonick: ;)
[08:51] <atbrandt> SGershon; I don't have your card.. mine works out of the box.. but i can connect to a WPA network.. will need WPAsupplicant
[08:51] <shwag> so im up on ubuntu first time. shesh, that was the easiest linux install EVER
[08:51] <SGershon> That's my pickup line at IRC chats.
[08:51] <maxblack> is there an easy way to determine which resolutions my monitor supports?
[08:51] <erUSUL> !dvd
[08:51] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2 which you can obtain by installing 'libdvdread3' and then running 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[08:51] <SGershon> WPA supplicant. Should I download it?
[08:52] <erUSUL> JDigital, 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[08:52] <R3dArt> Could anyone please point me to the document describing samples of disk partitioning when installing multiple Linux-es on the same drive???
[08:52] <atbrandt> SGershon; only if you are connecting to a WPA network.. are you?
[08:52] <JDigital> erUSUL: Yeah, I did that, and now mplayer can't play DVDs at all :(
[08:52] <SGershon> WPA... please explain...
[08:52] <ATIProblem> damn mzfcking help, i doesnt help me!!!
[08:53] <ATIProblem> ;[
[08:53] <joevandyk> bobbyd, hooray!  on mac clients, need to specify the export option "insecure"
[08:53] <JDigital> erUSUL: When I did that, it seemed to be downgrading my version of libdvdcss
[08:53] <erUSUL> JDigital, i do not use mplayer myself sorry try xine
[08:53] <atbrandt> SGershon; its the encryption method of the network that you are connecting to
[08:53] <yohan> ATIProblem: whats ur problem?
[08:53] <joevandyk> in the /etc/exports file
[08:53] <bobbyd> joevandyk, cool :)
[08:53] <JDigital> That's no help :/
[08:53] <joevandyk> bobbyd, thanks for your help
[08:53] <bobbyd> joevandyk, nor problem
[08:54] <atbrandt> SGershon; Like WAP which is older and works out of the box
[08:54] <atbrandt> SGershon; but first you need to get your card working
[08:54] <ATIProblem> yohan, forum and wiki tutorial about installing ati drivers doesnt work, or i understand it :}
[08:54] <SGershon> Using my WiFi it wont work?
[08:55] <shwag> So now that I have ubuntu installed, how do I get totem to recognize media ?
[08:55] <atbrandt> SGershon; what is the make/model of your accessoint?
[08:55] <atbrandt> SGershon; what is the make/model of your accesspoint?
[08:55] <ATIProblem> shwag, use xmms and mplayer :)
[08:55] <nagual> What configuration files would I have to edit to allow a user to check email on my ubuntu server that is using postfix, and courier imap?
[08:55] <_jason> shwag:  read the mutlimedia section at help.ubuntu.com
[08:56] <yohan> ATIProblem: i have the same problem
[08:56] <yohan> whats not working for you?
[08:56] <SGershon> Marvell Yukon
[08:56] <yohan> im following this one:
[08:56] <yohan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78466
[08:56] <atbrandt> SGershon; start your replys with atbrandt so that i can see your reply highlighted
[08:56] <SGershon> atbrandt: Marvell Yukon
[08:57] <jorgg> is the drivers from nvidia homepage better than the drivers downloaded through ubuntu synaptic?
[08:57] <shutdownrunner> schwag:install gstreamer plugins or just install totem-xine
[08:57] <CzarAlex> What are some interesting things I can install to my linux box? I have an apache web server running with my own domain, a wiki, phpbb and webmin. Anything else interesting I can tinker with?
[08:57] <atbrandt> SGershon; Does your card show up in system -> administration -> networking?
[08:58] <ATIProblem> yohan, its not workin` for me :) im using now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI but its for 5.04, i have 5.10 :[ maybe lets help each other? :] 
[08:58] <SGershon> yes, as eth0
[08:58] <nagual> What configuration files would I have to edit to allow a user to check email on my ubuntu server that is using postfix, and courier imap?
[08:58] <SGershon> atbrandt: yes, as eth0
[09:00] <atbrandt> SGershon; change the properties and activate.. should be straightforward
[09:00] <dmoyne> hello ! ; can I try tu update a Breezy 32 bits toward a Ubuntu 64 bits via ADSL ? ; thanks
[09:00] <oasiao> i cant see the user list , help
[09:00] <ATIProblem> yohan, which ati video card do u have?
[09:00] <yohan> radeon 9800pro
[09:00] <ATIProblem> em.... how far are u with the installation?
[09:00] <shutdownrunner> ATIProblem: why would you need to install drivers outside of repository? the latest drivers are already in rep
[09:00] <yohan> i get an error when doing:sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.18.8-i386.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/breezy
[09:01] <ATIProblem> shutdownrunner, yeah right... repos :D apt-get install blablabla, is that installation method good? or that one in the forum better? btw. sry for my english :] 
[09:01] <SGershon> atbrandt: it still says: Unkown device on lspci/
[09:01] <shutdownrunner> ATIProblem: it works for me
[09:02] <ATIProblem> u hawe ati too?
[09:02] <yohan> shutdownrunner: which one are you talking about?
[09:02] <shutdownrunner> ATIProblem: installing drivers from website is good in case drivers in rep are outdated
[09:02] <yohan> which package name? why are there guides on the forums, if i could just do a apt-get install?
[09:02] <erUSUL> ATIProblem, repos is *the* way to install things ;)
[09:02] <shutdownrunner> ATIProblem: you have to install linux-restricted-[version of your kernel] 
[09:02] <ATIProblem> erUSUL, repos r0x :}
[09:02] <SGershon> atbrandt: maybe there is some special setting...
[09:03] <SGershon> atbrandt: lspci still says: Unkown device
[09:03] <ATIProblem> shutdownrunner emm... maybe u can help install drivers? i hawe fresh ubuntu linux 5.10, installed about ~30minutes ago... :] 
[09:03] <ATIProblem> just say what i need to type in the terminal and thats all :}}}
[09:04] <ATIProblem> please? :)
[09:04] <shutdownrunner> just a moment
[09:04] <linuxgeek2> how do I install mouse cursors is ubuntu
[09:04] <linuxgeek2> ?
[09:04] <atbrandt> SGershon; If your card is listed in network; why do you want it in lspci?
[09:04] <ATIProblem> ok
[09:04] <WalrusU> lol... "Use the rep, these are official packages" .... but they're outdated.
[09:04] <masta__> what is the command to get samba to let me login to my shares from a windwos computer? it's not taking the passwords supplied on the windows end.
[09:05] <SGershon> because it won't connect when I try. In my home.
[09:05] <WalrusU> I wonder why I shouldn't just add every ftp full of deb files I know into my rep?
[09:05] <atbrandt> SGershon; maybe you have WPA
[09:05] <linuxgeek2> how do I install mouse cursors is ubuntu
[09:05] <atbrandt> SGershon; looking for a link ..
[09:06] <ATIProblem> lalala, linux ubuntu the best :)
[09:06] <Delvien> Is there a good CPU scaling monitor and controller in KDE like CPUfreqd in gnome?
[09:06] <atbrandt> SGershon; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31418.html
[09:06] <WalrusU> Does anyone know how to get boinc working in Ubuntu btw? The official site has a debian install package, but needs dependancies that aren't available in the ubuntu reps... should I add the ftp.debian.org and get them from there?
[09:07] <neologic_> hello
[09:07] <neologic_> whats the name of that app that allows you to spice up your desktop with xmms controls or zooming application launcers or other such eyecandy?
[09:07] <sizzam> im a new thunderbird user,  is it normal for the program to mark all messages as junk at first, and you unflag the messages that aren't junk?
[09:07] <shutdownrunner> ATIProblem: you have to install xorg-driver-fglrx, linux-restricted-modules-[version of your kernel]  and then edit xorg.conf
[09:07] <icewt> neologic_: gdesklets ?
[09:07] <neologic_> icewt, yes!
[09:07] <_jason> sizzam:  wasn't for me
[09:07] <arie_G> does anyone know how to download music with linux
[09:08] <Delvien> illegaly? we dont talk about that here
[09:08] <ATIProblem> omg, it's like apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx, then apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-[version of your kernel]  and then edit xorg.conf? that is workin` for ya?
[09:08] <shwag> cant connect to multiverse for some reason
[09:08] <arie_G> where do they talk about it
[09:08] <Delvien> arie_G look on the net,
[09:09] <ATIProblem> shutdownrunner ?? omg, it's like apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx, then apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-[version of your kernel]  and then edit xorg.conf? that is workin` for ya?
[09:09] <Delvien> Is there a good CPU scaling monitor and controller in KDE like CPUfreqd in gnome?
[09:09] <SGershon> tbrandt: Looking at the link. What is this supposed to do?
[09:09] <SGershon> atbrandt: Looking at the link. What is this supposed to do?
[09:10] <nagual> What configuration files would I have to edit to allow a user to check email on my ubuntu server that is using postfix, and courier imap?
[09:10] <shutdownrunner> ATIProblem: [version of your kernel]  means you have to check the version of your kernel. type uname -r in terminal
[09:11] <ATIProblem> i know, lol :D
[09:11] <shutdownrunner> ATIProblem:and then do it better in synaptic. you have to install e.g. linux-restricted-modules-2.12.3
[09:11] <ATIProblem> shutdownrunner, last question... what i need to do in xorg.conf?
[09:12] <shutdownrunner> ATIProblem: well, you have to either edit xorg.conf or use as root fglrxconfig
[09:12] <shutdownrunner> ATI:the former method is safer, because you keep most of your x settings
[09:13] <WalrusU> Does anyone know if there are any special drivers for an ATI Rage Pro chipset. Under default ubuntu, I don't have any 3D using the hardware
[09:14] <atbrandt> SGershon; It will make it possible to connect to WPA wireless networks. I suspect you have this. Other option is to configure you accesspoint to not require encryption, or WAP encryption.
[09:14] <ATIProblem> shutdownrunner, apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx, apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386, sudo fglrxconfig, restart and wola...?
[09:14] <shutdownrunner> ATIProblem: of course if everything goes ok:) it's not also so,but I hope that you're a lucky person
[09:14] <rubik> hi
[09:15] <cfaun> Hello. I am interested in packaging multiple programs for both Ubuntu and Debian. Should I just submit it to Ubuntu and have them automatically go to debian (will they?), submit it to debian, and have then automatically go to debian (will they?), or submit them to both?
[09:15] <ATIProblem> shutdownrunner big, big tnx :)
[09:15] <cfaun> or this this the wrong channel to ask this in?
[09:15] <tescoil> ISO9660 an acceptable setting, burning a live iso for ppc on an x86 platform?
[09:15] <erUSUL> cfaun, ubuntu sync with debian not the other way around. Debian first then ubuntu
[09:15] <plaur> hi, is DRI still broken? glxgears works after an libglu update (breezy), but blender still crashes - segmentation fault
[09:16] <nando> hola
[09:16] <tescoil> I don't have the ppc around to immediately test the thing, and the ppc user has been previously frustrated
[09:16] <shutdownrunner> ATIProblem: if anything would go,wrong don't worry. it takes a moment to correct the config:)
[09:16] <erUSUL> plaur, blender works here which graphic card?
[09:16] <plaur> if i disable DRI, blender works fine
[09:16] <HappyFool> cfaun: maybe go chat in #ubuntu-motu
[09:16] <colen> how is everyone doing today?
[09:16] <plaur> Ati Rage128 Pro
[09:16] <ATIProblem> ok, tnx... u installed drivers like in this style? :}
[09:16] <erUSUL> plaur, using radeon driver?
[09:17] <ATIProblem> for you...
[09:17] <HappyFool> cfaun: also look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[09:17] <plaur> if i execute "LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 blender", it works... no hw accel
[09:17] <plaur> erUSUL: nope, i need r128, not radeon
[09:17] <tescoil> colen: It's gloomy weather, and I'm listening to Slint's Spiderland, if that says anything.
[09:18] <halibut> plaur, you could try in #blender  #blenderchat  too
[09:18] <ATIProblem> shutdownrunner, did u install ati drivers for yourself in this style? like i will?? :}
[09:18] <shwag> hmm...anyone know why synaptic would be giving me fails when trying to reload multiverse ?
[09:19] <gteppel> I have a cd that when i try to copy files from in Windows I get a cyclic redudancy error, I know the cd is corrupted but I'd like to get as many files as I can off the cd (there are a few thousand), is there a program/command in ubuntu that I can use to copy files regardless of errors?, or just to copy the files that are copyable, instead of dying everytime a bad file comes up like it does in windows
[09:19] <erUSUL> plaur, i know that it does not help telling you that it works here but... (radeon driver ati9250 dri mesagl)
[09:19] <BooZee> help needed - I have a tar.gz file that contains a bin file. how do I install it?
[09:19] <plaur> i think it's DRI bug, not blender: disabling 3D hw accel fixes things
[09:20] <shwag> new user, how come synaptic won't sync the multiverse. looks like it can't connect ???
[09:20] <plaur> erUSUL: lucky you... it worked just fine for me in hoary, too
[09:20] <shwag> Could not download all repository indexes
[09:20] <vengeful_> know what i think?
[09:20] <plaur> thanks, i'll file a bug report in bugzilla, i guess
[09:20] <cfaun> erUSUL: I'm not sure I fully understood. are you saying to submit it to ubuntu after submitting it to debian or just to submit it to debian and let it automatically sync to ubuntu?
[09:20] <andi5> hi. where i can get ubuntu style configured kernel sources from? thanks in advance! (need newer wlan drivers :))
[09:20] <BooZee> !tar
[09:20] <ubotu> I don't know, BooZee
[09:21] <vengeful_> use windows for games....ita gonna be that way for at least 2 years...accept it and move on
[09:21] <ATIProblem> shutdownrunner
[09:21] <ATIProblem> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:21] <shwag> can anyone else verify that the multiverse repository is down ?
[09:21] <ATIProblem>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.16.20-0ubuntu16_i386.deb
[09:21] <ATIProblem> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:21] <ATIProblem> :[
[09:21] <andi5> shwag: all mirrors?
[09:21] <erUSUL> cfaun, submit to debian and ubuntu will sync later (thats the work of motus)
[09:21] <cfaun> erUSUL: okay; thanks
[09:22] <shwag> andi5, not sure how to check. im just following the newbie instructions
[09:22] <erUSUL> plaur, try another kernel version
[09:22] <ATIProblem> damn, see ya later.. and tnx all, specialy shutdownrunner :] 
[09:22] <shwag> andi5, section: How do I add Universe and Multiverse.   using synaptic.
[09:22] <WalrusU> www.tuxgames.com and www.mobygames.com both have lots of information on gaming within linux, however I haven't looked at either for Ubuntu/Debian specifically
[09:23] <andi5> shwag: try to replace archive.ubuntu.com with xy.archive.ubuntu.com, where xy is your country code
[09:23] <vengeful_> its not really practical when official drivers dont even get released until 6-9 months after the card is released
[09:23] <reqage> hi hi, having a problem with grub
[09:23] <tescoil> ISO 9660 an acceptable setting, burning a live iso for ppc on an x86 platform?
[09:23] <WalrusU> vengeful: just think of all the cards that aren't Nvidia or ATI and don't even have official drivers
[09:24] <WalrusU> then again, to be fair, there's a lot of cards that don't have XP drivers either
[09:24] <shwag> andi5, looks like the default is already us.
[09:24] <shwag> andi5, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[09:24] <vengeful_> :-) im using intel 815 drivers atm becaused theres no 915 drivers yet
[09:24] <vengeful_> not great is it
[09:24] <andi5> shwag: what about ca or something like that?
[09:24] <shwag> andi5, should I try removing the  us.  so that it just starts with archive ?
[09:25] <andi5> shwag: well, i do not know what you _should_ do, you are free to play around with your system :)
[09:25] <vengeful_> then again...this is only a work station laptop....which linux outperforms windows on :-)
[09:25] <shwag> andi5, is there a webpage that lists the repositories ?
[09:25] <sizzam> whats the trick to getting the beagle deamon to load at system startup
[09:25] <reqage> had a dual bootable setup, with windows and fc3, i wanted ubuntu instead of fc3 so installed over fc3 partition;  now when grub boots it gives me options when i type in help
[09:25] <erUSUL> reqage, what exactly?
[09:26] <reqage> now i can't get windows or linux to boot but partitions are still there
[09:26] <andi5> shwag: hm, i use ubuntu for one day, but maybe it is a subset of the mirrors listed for the iso downloads? i simply do not know that :)
[09:26] <reqage> so i'm on livecd atm
[09:26] <theconartist> are the ubuntu repos down?
[09:26] <_jason> sizzam:  does it work if you use system->prefs->sessions->startup programs?
[09:26] <shwag> andi5, ok, thanks
[09:26] <erUSUL> reqage, what type of error it show?
[09:27] <shad0w1e> can someone help me with a networking issue? I can't get iptables to share my internet connection even though the exact same command worked on my previous linux install.... I'm also using the same "interfaces" file // ????
[09:27] <redondos> hi. what's the command for apt-cache or apt-get to find out if a determined package is installed on the system or not?
[09:27] <andi5> shad0w1e: did you load the same networking modules?
[09:27] <reqage> no error, grub just boots up in text instead of graphicall, and it gives me only certain options when type in help
[09:27] <shad0w1e> andi5, not sur
[09:27] <shad0w1e> e
[09:27] <El_Che> reqage: dpkg -l name-package
[09:27] <El_Che> oopes
[09:28] <El_Che> redondos: dpkg -l name-package
[09:28] <redondos> thank you.
[09:28] <shad0w1e> andi5, what are networking modules, and how do I check ?
[09:28] <El_Che> redondos: if you don't know the name exactly try this:
[09:28] <El_Che> gone
[09:28] <El_Che> ok
[09:28] <El_Che> :)
[09:28] <reqage> lol El_Che
[09:29] <theconartist> are the ubuntu apt repo's down?
[09:29] <erUSUL> reqage, so it can not read menu.lst. are you sure the partitions are ok. boot with a live cd if you can
[09:29] <andi5> shad0w1e: lsmod lists all modules, do not they start with ip_? if i had kernel sources, with btw i am currently searching for ;-), i could tell you :)
[09:29] <_jason> theconartist:  they seem to be working fine here
[09:29] <theconartist> _jason, not for me :(
[09:29] <WalrusU> Why is kboincspy in the universe repository but not the actual boinc client it depends on?
[09:29] <reqage> erUSUL, i'm on live cd atm
[09:30] <reqage> need me to type in any shell cmds
[09:30] <shad0w1e> andi5, can I just look in /etc/modules ?
[09:30] <reqage> ?
[09:30] <shad0w1e> I have the old installation mounted
[09:30] <Joseph> Can anyone help me? Kubuntu freezes. :(
[09:30] <theconartist> what is going on?!
[09:30] <erUSUL> reqage,  have you mounted the ubuntu root (or boot) partition?
[09:30] <andi5> shad0w1e: everything therein currently not loaded should be loaded then i guess :)
[09:31] <erUSUL> reqage, if not mount it. mount -t ext3 /dev/hdxx /mnt
[09:31] <hybrid_goth> what can i use to log irssi chats with ubuntu?
[09:31] <shad0w1e> ah. the old install was a warty installation upgraded to hoary, and then to breezy
[09:31] <shad0w1e> wheras this is a clean breezy install
[09:32] <PatrikJohansson> #winehq
[09:32] <shad0w1e> ip_tables              18176  5 ipt_REJECT,ipt_state,iptable_mangle,iptable_nat,iptable_filter
[09:32] <_jason> theconartist:  what errors are you getting
[09:33] <reqage> hum, i'll be back, gonna give it another shot
[09:33] <AMDXP> I am loving this Ubuntu 5.10 so far so good anyone having issues with mplayer where can i get the w32codecs
[09:33] <reqage> thx erU
[09:33] <_jason> ubotu:  tell AMDXP about w32codecs
[09:33] <Joseph> Can anyone help me? Kubuntu freezes. :(
[09:33] <J4k3-> yeah, I'm really impressed with 5.10 so far
[09:33] <WalrusU> !tell WalrusU boinc
[09:33] <Joseph> I've tried asking in the #kubuntu channel multiple times.
[09:33] <PC-Ente> hallo 
[09:33] <Joseph> But all they've told me to do never works. :(
[09:34] <Joseph> They've told me like 5 different things. :(
[09:34] <WalrusU> !tell WalrusU about boinc
[09:34] <WalrusU> yay, I figured out that I need to put my soundcard in /etc/modules ... no more typing sudo modprobe with every bootup :P
[09:35] <shad0w1e> interesting
[09:36] <shad0w1e> I found this in my old modules file
[09:36] <shad0w1e> ipt_MASQERADE
[09:36] <shad0w1e> but when I try loading it on my new intstall it says it cant find it
[09:37] <andi5> shad0w1e: there is an U missing?
[09:38] <shad0w1e> i dont know?
[09:38] <andi5> shad0w1e: try ipt_MASQUERADE :)
[09:38] <shad0w1e> oh . lol
[09:38] <shad0w1e> well it worked on my old install without the U
[09:39] <phanter> hello, since I use breezy my wireless networkcard (intel2200) is not detected anymore
[09:39] <shad0w1e> meaning, (it wasnt being used! ? )
[09:39] <imterro> i have a .swf file and im trying to play it
[09:40] <imterro> but i cant open it in firefox because it keeps wanting to download it from my folder
[09:40] <Nei> can anyone reach ubuntu.org.cn ? it doesn't seem to want to work here
[09:40] <imterro> how woul di open it?
[09:40] <kemik> !ndiswrapper
[09:40] <ubotu> it has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[09:40] <kemik> !wireless
[09:40] <ubotu> I heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:40] <andi5> so, does anybody know where i get the kernel sources from? configured for typical 64bit breezy?
[09:40] <kemik> !ntfs
[09:40] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:41] <P8ntKid> How do i get totem to work in ubuntu?
[09:41] <sizzam> Nei:  looks like its slowly coming in, very very slowly
[09:41] <Nei> sizzam, meh guess it's just my connection that lost it to china
[09:42] <P8ntKid> Or better yet. What media player should i use to play avi files?
[09:42] <Nei> ah well not much I can do about it
[09:42] <SGershon> Haha. I ws disconnected.
[09:42] <SGershon> atbrandt: this link is to help using the WiFi connection, isnt it? But my WiFi works, is the wired who doesn't!  :)
[09:42] <Nei> P8ntKid, mplayer is quite a good player
[09:42] <shad0w1e> ok it still isnt working..... any other suggestions ?
[09:42] <sizzam> Nei:  the page just finished loading, 88 seconds
[09:43] <Nei> sizzam, thanks for trying
[09:43] <sizzam> P8ntKid:   my favorite is xine-ui, but you might have to install some codecs
[09:43] <odie5533> P8ntKid, or just stick with totem... works great
[09:43] <sizzam> P8ntKid:  here's info on getting codecs:  http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[09:43] <SGershon> atbrandt: My WiFi works, its just the Wired who doesnt, the link bout NDISWRAPPER is for setting the wireless, isn't it?
[09:43] <Nei> totem doesn't work at all for me
[09:44] <SGershon> atbrandt: Or I did not understand?
[09:44] <P8ntKid> odie5533: totem doesnt work for me.
[09:44] <odie5533> Nei: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[09:44] <odie5533> same to you P8ntKid
[09:44] <kemik> !fglrx
[09:44] <ubotu> [fglrx]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:44] <sizzam> Nei:  totem-xine works ok for me, but i have weird problems like not being able to use the position slider bar sometimes, etc
[09:44] <n0odl3> dabaR: how do update with openbox
[09:44] <P8ntKid> sizzam: I have the codecs. But with i try to start mplayer and then open an avi file mplayer freezes
[09:44] <B|4ckm0r3> hi all how can i enable XFT in X?
[09:45] <n0odl3> dabaR:I mean what do you update with>
[09:45] <odie5533> Or if you don't need w32 codecs, just go with VLC
[09:45] <odie5533> sudo apt-get install vlc
[09:45] <P8ntKid> odie5533: I did that.
[09:45] <P8ntKid> odie5533: What do i do now>
[09:45] <sizzam> P8ntKid:  i've never had much luck with mplayer,   i always stick with either the xine-ui or totem-xine package
[09:45] <odie5533> P8ntKid, which command did you do?
[09:45] <_jason> P8ntKid:  have you enabled esd for mplayer?
[09:46] <SGershon> My Marvell Yukon appears as Unknown Device... How to set the drivers up?
[09:46] <andi5> SGershon: is this a camera?
[09:46] <cusco> hi
[09:46] <SGershon> andi5: No, its my wired net device.
[09:46] <shad0w1e> here's another weird thing.... firestarter works (to share my connection) but it disables any ssh access to the machine, whereas on my previous install, it didnt do that!
[09:46] <_jason> ubotu:  tell P8ntKid about mplayer
[09:46] <SGershon> andi5: I am now usinng WiFi outside... 53% battrery remaining... ;)
[09:46] <hoek> #kubuntu-nl
[09:46] <n0odl3> does anyone here use open box?
[09:46] <andi5> SGershon: wired? you mean with wires? are not these supported? oh.. wire_less_?
[09:47] <odie5533> SGershon, wifi outside? Laptop?
[09:47] <P8ntKid> _jason: No, how do i do that?
[09:47] <SGershon> andi5: Yep. laptop -- Tshiba M40.
[09:47] <P8ntKid> _jason: I have mplayer. there was no need for the ubot thing
[09:47] <_jason> P8ntKid:  read the link ubotu sent you
[09:47] <_jason> P8ntKid:  it explains how to setup esd
[09:48] <cusco> does anyone knows anything about when you reboot your computer not going down.. shuts the system down but is still on and you *must* press the butto?
[09:48] <cusco> button
[09:48] <_jason> P8ntKid:  first link (to the wiki)
[09:48] <odie5533> _jason, is there a place that has a list of ubotu commands?
[09:48] <_jason> ubotu:  tell odie5533 about yourself
[09:48] <P8ntKid> odie5533: How do i start totem-xine
[09:48] <WalrusU> cusco: My computer does that, but that's just because it has a motherboard that just doesn't support the power down command (win98 wouldn't do it either)
[09:48] <andi5> cusco: really? do you have some strange mobo? i experienced this a long time ago :)
[09:48] <odie5533> P8ntKid, same way you do totem
[09:49] <P8ntKid> odie5533: Type totem in the terminal?
[09:49] <PatrikJohansson> ubotu: tell PatrikJohansson about yourself
[09:49] <odie5533> P8ntKid, Applications > Sound & Video > Totem Player
[09:49] <grodius> anyone know about 855resolution? When I run it, it says it can't access my vbios
[09:49] <odie5533> P8ntKid, that works too
[09:49] <P8ntKid> odie5533: I dont use gnome.
[09:49] <WalrusU> cusco: I'm not sure what's going on in your case. But in mind, I get a large (2 paragraphs) error when it tries to power down at the end of the shutdown
[09:49] <cusco> WalrusU: when I had hoary and windows I had nothing of this
[09:49] <odie5533> P8ntKid, $ totem
[09:49] <cusco> andi5: what is a mobo?
[09:49] <odie5533> cusco, motherboard
[09:49] <andi5> well, apropos errors while shutting down: i keep getting "tmpfs still used" or such
[09:49] <cusco> ah
[09:49] <theconartist> grr
[09:49] <andi5> cusco: MOtherBOard :D
[09:50] <WalrusU> cusco: Ah. okay. your situation is very different than mine. I just KNOW mine won't do it... whereas you've had it done before :)
[09:50] <theconartist> why wont it let me unzip this .exe :(
[09:50] <qbase> I'm unable to get a DHCP address after upgrading to breezy, any ideas?
[09:50] <cusco> I thought it could be something commomn...
[09:50] <cusco> like happening to some more people
[09:50] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to update without using the gnome update manager (I dont seem to have it because im running openbox w/o gnome)
[09:50] <andi5> cusco: is this your first linux installation? if not, you might compare :)
[09:50] <odie5533> _jason, how do you use bot commands?
[09:51] <cusco> n0odl3: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:51] <andi5> n0odl3: are you searching for aptitude?
[09:51] <n0odl3> andi5: no
[09:51] <_jason> ubotu:  tell odie5533 about tell
[09:51] <n0odl3> cusco: does that really work? everytime i do that all i get is some number of sites and it says hit?
[09:52] <cusco> n0odl3: and after it says how manny packages are upgradable
[09:52] <_jason> odie5533:  you can also just /msg ubotu and he will respond to you
[09:52] <n0odl3> ahh i c
[09:52] <AudioMove> anyone know what might be causing this error when trying to access my windows samba share on my laptop from ubuntu "Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network:".
[09:53] <odie5533> _jason, when in a convo with ubotu, what do I type to get him to tell me something?
[09:53] <n0odl3> cusco: when i typed sudo apt-get update all i got was : (A list of the repos) then it says reading packages done...
[09:54] <cusco> n0odl3: you forgot the apt-get upgrade
[09:54] <n0odl3> cusco: it also said fetched 19.8 KB in 2 sec
[09:54] <planetcall> really tired with breezy.
[09:54] <planetcall> eclipse wont run........webmin wont showup either :(
[09:54] <_jason> odie5533:  just type what you want, for example "java"
[09:55] <odie5533> _jason, he isn't responding
[09:55] <odie5533> _jason, can you give me an example of the basic irc command to have him tell me about java?
[09:55] <n0odl3> cusco: then i tried sudo apt-get upgrade then it says: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 0 not upgraded
[09:55] <_jason> odie5533:  you have to be registered on nickserv /msg nickserv help register
[09:55] <n0odl3> cusco: does that mean that im all up to date?
[09:56] <cusco> n0odl3: then your system is up to date yes
[09:56] <odie5533> oh, thanks ;)
[09:56] <cusco> acoording to your sources.list
[09:56] <cusco> according
[09:56] <_jason> k laundry time, bbl
[09:56] <Akatemik> Hi. I'm having some troubles remastering a live cd: the boot process ends saying: "Error reading Release file". What gives?
[09:57] <PatrikJohansson> register patrik
[09:57] <PatrikJohansson> hmm
[09:57] <PatrikJohansson> :D
[09:58] <n0odl3> does anyone know if the non-free multiverse repo works on breezy?
[09:58] <WalrusU> hmm, Ubuntu help talks too much about the package manager (great!) and not enough about Application > Add Application or how to compile source
[09:58] <cusco> n0odl3: main restricted universe multiverse
[09:59] <sizzam> WalrusU, he usually just asks me if im smoking crack
[09:59] <hkais> hi
[09:59] <sizzam> WalrusU, oops, thought u meant ubotu
[09:59] <cusco> WalrusU: that Add Applications is a gnome thingy
[09:59] <hkais> i have a problem with my webmin installation. i get following error:
[09:59] <hkais>  HTTP/1.0 500 Perl execution failed Server: MiniServ/0.01 Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 06:22:40 GMT Content-type: text/html Connection: close  Error - Perl execution failed Undefined subroutine &proc::list_processes called at /usr/share/webmin/fsdump/index.cgi line 89.
[09:59] <reqage> erUSUL, still around?
[10:00] <hkais> any ideas what the error is?
[10:00] <WalrusU> cusco: yeah, I just noticed it and it seems "friendlier" is all. *shrug*
[10:00] <erUSUL> yes
[10:00] <reqage> check msg
[10:00] <planetcall> fakeroot??? no command found
[10:00] <cusco> WalrusU: doesn't download packages from repos tho
[10:01] <planetcall> what is fakeroot
[10:01] <cusco> !fakeroot
[10:01] <ubotu> cusco: Bugger all, i dunno
[10:01] <erUSUL> reqage, ??
[10:01] <WalrusU> cusco: I just launched it on 2 comps and that seems to be where it's getting them. It's showing the same terminal commands as apt-get or symantec
[10:01] <ATIProblem> erUSUL, hi... is here that guy who help'd me with drivers? :] 
[10:02] <odie5533> is there a way to make a repeat timer on a wget command?
[10:02] <ATIProblem> Or u dont know...
[10:02] <cusco> WalrusU: it doesn't download them, it uses dpkg to install deb packages already on the system tho
[10:02] <WalrusU> cusco: oh...
[10:02] <erUSUL> ATIProblem, some other guy helped more than i
[10:03] <cusco> which means you're very limited on appz
[10:03] <Stormx2> Heya
[10:03] <ATIProblem> m? :>
[10:03] <Stormx2> Beep Music Player is uber sexeh
[10:03] <WalrusU> cusco: I don't think so... it looks like a download to me... and it has a Settings > Repositories menu that links to the same repos as symantec
[10:04] <erUSUL> ATIProblem, have you managed to install the ati drivers?
[10:04] <hkais> no idea?
[10:04] <hkais> Undefined subroutine &proc::list_processes called at /usr/share/webmin/fsdump/index.cgi line 89.
[10:04] <bur[n] er> bmp is basic... amarok is uber sexeh ;)
[10:04] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: Nah I love BMP. What does amarok have which is better, though?
[10:05] <ATIProblem> erUSUL, that guy "was telling" me how to install them, i know how to install, but i whant know exactly how to install them, i dont whant problems
[10:05] <cusco> WalrusU: ok looks like you're right.. but yu are still limited on appz that you can download
[10:05] <bur[n] er> amarok?  a whole lot ;)
[10:05] <cusco> install
[10:05] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: http://amarok.kde.org
[10:05] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: KDE :-\
[10:05] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: I use GNOME :)
[10:05] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: sadly it's KDE, but I use gnome too
[10:05] <WalrusU> cusco: yeah, I think so too
[10:05] <bur[n] er> doesn't mean you can't run it from within gnome
[10:06] <Stormx2> I really like BMP, it does what I ask it to :D
[10:06] <JDahl> is altas3-base the appropriate choice for AMD64 (i.e., without architecture optimization)?
[10:06] <PatrikJohansson> !ubuntuallday
[10:06] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuallday is Ubuntu all day keeps Dr. Norton away.
[10:06] <Stormx2> XD
[10:06] <bur[n] er> to each their own ;)  I like the suggest mode, wiki, and db features of amarok
[10:06] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[10:06] <ubotu> :)
[10:07] <erUSUL> ATIProblem, it involved installing xorg-driver-fglrx linux-restricted-modules-[youre kernel]  and fglrx-control
[10:07] <Stormx2> I quite like BMP cause it will load winamp 2.x skins, nice interface, audioscrobbler plugin, etc
[10:07] <alla1> I installed Ubuntu 5.10 on a HP Omnibook XE 2 and every time i insert my D-Link DWL-G630 wifi card to the pcmcia slot of my laptop, the screen goes blank and nothing works. If i remove the card from the slot, the screen is still blank. Only a restart helps. Any ideas on whats going on ?
[10:07] <erUSUL> ATIProblem, then editing xorg.conf
[10:07] <erUSUL> !ati
[10:07] <ubotu> ati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[10:07] <ATIProblem> omg
[10:07] <ATIProblem> erSUL, ok tnx, after ~5min's ill ask ya 1 question.. :] 
[10:08] <farruinn> JaZyLNX: did you get the ibm java package to work?
[10:08] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: u hvae the docklet plugin as well?  and wma support?
[10:08] <yohan> how do i disable virtual screen?
[10:08] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: Yep, I install both today
[10:08] <ATIProblem> erUSUL
[10:08] <ATIProblem> apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx, apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386, apt-get install fglrx-control, sudo fglrxconfig, restart.
[10:08] <Stormx2> installed*
[10:08] <ATIProblem> or its not right?
[10:09] <rem_> anyone knows why Postgres 7.4.2 don't work with OpenGroupware ?
[10:09] <rem_> have to use 7.2.1
[10:09] <farruinn> ATIProblem: you can install multiple packages at once: 'apt-get install <package1> <package2> ...'
[10:09] <holycow> rem_, thats an opengroupware question
[10:09] <erUSUL> ATIProblem, it seems right
[10:09] <rem_> lol yep...just asked if anyone knows by any chance ..
[10:09] <ATIProblem> what about xorg.conf? or i dont need to edit it, if i use fglrxconfig ?
[10:10] <holycow> rem_, *nod* :) ogo is quite complicated, hard to say
[10:10] <Stormx2> ATIProblem: You can use a wizard to configure it.
[10:10] <ATIProblem> ok, big tnx, ill try now :] 
[10:10] <rem_> ok..ill search some more ... :| ..
[10:10] <JaZyLNX> farruinn, gave up on it
[10:10] <Stormx2> xorg-config ;-)
[10:10] <Artemis3> Hi there, i have a problem attempting to install. Reading from CD the system will make a read error at a fixed point after choosing the keyboard.
[10:11] <Artemis3> i tried with kubuntu and it stopped at the same place
[10:11] <BooZee> I got a problam - I have a FireWire connection on 2 of my computers. the first is running ubuntu, and the second XP. I sometimes connect them together with the firewire, and transfer files between them. well, I did it when I had windows on both of them. now that I have ubuntu, I can't do it. the ubuntu doesn't know the FireWire at all! what can I do?
[10:12] <Stormx2> !firewire
[10:12] <ubotu> Stormx2: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[10:13] <Artemis3> on the same system kanotix loads just fine. im using a benq dvdrw unit as the reading cdrom
[10:13] <Stormx2> :-\
[10:13] <odie5533> Is there anyway to install win98 AFTER an ubuntu install?
[10:13] <Stormx2> Why not?
[10:13] <Delvien> Yes but why install win98 ?:P
[10:13] <Delvien> im about to burn my windows CDs
[10:13] <odie5533> Because Cedega won't play the games I want
[10:14] <Delvien> and win98 will?
[10:14] <odie5533> Delvien, you must not play video games
[10:14] <Stormx2> Neither will 98 XD
[10:14] <odie5533> yes it will, 98 will
[10:14] <Stormx2> Nah you can do it, no problem.
[10:14] <tristanmike> BooZee, if i'm not mistaken Windows, by default, cannot read Linux drives. You need software to read it
[10:14] <Delvien> odie5533 actually i play Battlefield 2 online:P
[10:14] <odie5533> Cedega freezes a lot
[10:14] <odie5533> $15 down the drain
[10:14] <Stormx2> Cedega = bad
[10:14] <Stormx2> Wine = good
[10:14] <odie5533> You tell me that now...
[10:14] <reqage> .... grub is still giving me trouble
[10:14] <odie5533> when I tryed steam on wine steam had no text
[10:14] <PatrikJohansson> wine= not good at all
[10:15] <odie5533> lol which is good then LMFAO
[10:15] <Delvien> odie5533 do you have ms core fonts?
[10:15] <Stormx2> odie5533: You should have installed some fonts ^_^
[10:15] <bur[n] er> cedega is bad?
[10:15] <PatrikJohansson> wine= not good _YET_
[10:15] <odie5533> Delvien, yes
[10:15] <BooZee> tristanmike:  i managed doing that with a lan card, so there's no reason I can't do it with firewire.
[10:15] <holycow> cedega works far better than wine
[10:15] <odie5533> msttcorefonts I believe right?
[10:15] <Delvien> odie5533 yes
[10:15] <BooZee> tristanmike:  i just need to configure the firewire
[10:15] <bur[n] er> odie5533: the cedega fonts
[10:15] <Stormx2> And some others, I beleive :-\
[10:15] <odie5533> holycow, cedega works out of the box mainly
[10:15] <sazwerx> is there a backports repo for breezy? where?
[10:15] <PatrikJohansson> i think for steam you need tahoma in your font folder for wine
[10:15] <odie5533> sazwerx, not ready yet
[10:15] <Delvien> eek i need to configure my ATI card :/
[10:15] <sazwerx> odie5533, ohh i see.. thanks
[10:15] <Stormx2> sazwerx: No breezy backports yet methinks. Not sure though
[10:15] <bur[n] er> sazwerx: not yet... there's really nothign new in dapper to be backported yet
[10:16] <Stormx2> !backports
[10:16] <Delvien> Linux for laptops = uba
[10:16] <Delvien> Linux for media = so much better than windows
[10:16] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: /msg ubotu ;)
[10:16] <Stormx2> ^_^
[10:16] <odie5533> Is blackdown 5.0 almost done?
[10:16] <bur[n] er> wtf is blackdown?  that java thing?
[10:16] <odie5533> Yes
[10:17] <odie5533> the java thing
[10:17] <Madpilot> Stormx2: there are no Breezy backports yet, if that's what you're looking for
[10:17] <PatrikJohansson> delvien, uba??
[10:17] <odie5533> bur[n] er, somehow I knew that
[10:17] <Delvien> Patrikjohansson uber.
[10:17] <Stormx2> Madpilot: I was clearing it up for someone else :-\
[10:17] <bur[n] er> lol
[10:17] <PatrikJohansson> delvien, aha :D
[10:17] <Delvien>  =D
[10:17] <compDo> Is there any command to jump to the previous directory? For instance, when I'm in /home/chris/dir1/dir2/dir3 and type "cd", so I get to my home directory /home/chris. Is there any command to get back to /home/chris/dir1/dir2/dir3 ? I know that Sun provides a command called "back" for this purpose
[10:18] <Artemis3> nobody had the cdrom suddendly disappearing during install?
[10:18] <odie5533> cd .. ?
[10:18] <thread> compDo: cd -
[10:18] <JDahl> fyi - it actually seems like altas3-sse (which I think is the appropriate version) is not ported to AMD64
[10:18] <Delvien> no but some installs can be corrupt :)
[10:18] <Stormx2> compDo: cd ..
[10:18] <Madpilot> compDo: "cd .."
[10:18] <Artemis3> i just installed into another machine just fine
[10:18] <thread> cd .. is parent dir
[10:18] <thread> cd - will take you to the last dir you were in
[10:18] <odie5533> compDo, do a '$ ls -a'
[10:18] <Stormx2> . = current dir
[10:18] <Stormx2> .. = parent dir
[10:19] <Madpilot> compDo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[10:19] <compDo> thread, thank you. That was I was looking for.
[10:19] <Stormx2> WHAT ABOUT ME?!
[10:19] <thread> Stormx2: u were wrong :)
[10:19] <Stormx2> I WASN'T THANKED!
[10:19] <ATIProblem> erUSUL linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386 is already the newest version.
[10:19] <Delvien> I love amaroK !
[10:19] <Stormx2> thread: cd .. works for me...
[10:19] <thread> Stormx2: not what he asked
[10:19] <Delvien> itunes can take that stick they shoved up their ass, and stick it further :P
[10:20] <reqage> ok, on boot after I installed ubuntu over fc3, grub loads but how do I boot to windows or linux, I'm not use to the txt grub
[10:20] <odie5533> iTunes is pretty bad... very bulky too, like wmp9/10
[10:20] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: that page doesn't have cd - ... i'll add it though :)
[10:20] <Stormx2> thread: Damnit, you are right.
[10:20] <Delvien> aye
[10:20] <compDo> Stormx2, with cd .. I get to the undelying directory.
[10:20] <Delvien> amaroK = the best for multimedia player , album art, etc
[10:21] <reqage> anyone know what to do?
[10:21] <Delvien> Xmms and winamp for just plain music playing
[10:21] <thread> banshee is good and improving
[10:21] <cusco> when I open firefox it opens a square to choose the profile
[10:21] <compDo> Stormx2, maybe I used "crevious" in a confusing way
[10:21] <odie5533> I just use Totem for everything :S
[10:21] <erUSUL> ATIProblem, so
[10:21] <erUSUL> ??
[10:21] <Artemis3> anyplace where i can see all the boot options for the install disc_
[10:21] <Artemis3> ?
[10:21] <cusco> Im sure that firefox-bin is not running
[10:21] <thread> I highly recommend you all keep your eyes peeled to the Banshee music player
[10:21] <cusco> what to do?
[10:21] <odie5533> Artemis3, boot on the disc and hit F2 or F3
[10:21] <Delvien> ATIproblem you get your ati card running
[10:21] <Stormx2> cusco: Banshee music player? Tell me more ^_^
[10:21] <ATIProblem> i dont need to install it, yes? and E: Couldn't find package glrx-control
[10:21] <four> hello, this may sound stupid, but im new to linux (just installed) i had to end up fromating my main drive and losing my old operating system (windows) but my question is how can i access my files saved on another hard disk with ntfs, or is it possible?
[10:21] <ATIProblem> ;] ] ] 
[10:22] <Stormx2> four: Yes
[10:22] <cusco> Stormx2: ??
[10:22] <Stormx2> ubotu: tell four about mount
[10:22] <Delvien> four let me give you a link
[10:22] <bur[n] er> thread: it's a resource hog atm though
[10:22] <dennis999> Hey guys
[10:22] <Stormx2> ubotu: tell four about windowsdrives
[10:22] <Artemis3> ty
[10:22] <odie5533> what is the use of the command pwd?
[10:22] <cusco> Stormx2: no banshee music player
[10:22] <Artemis3> ill be back later
[10:22] <thread> bur[n] er: yea maybe..
[10:22] <dennis999> Do I setup mp3 support for breezy the same way I did for hoary?
[10:22] <thread> bur[n] er: yea maybe..
[10:22] <thread> ack
[10:22] <Stormx2> four: Check your messages from ubotu
[10:22] <bur[n] er> thread: the feature request page is full of good ideas though :)
[10:22] <farruinn> Stormx2: you can /msg ubotu
[10:22] <tristanmike> BooZee, does it show up with "df -h" ?
[10:22] <dennis999> anyone know?
[10:22] <thread> bur[n] er: yeah I like how it is shaping up... and who cares if it takes resources if you have enough? :)
[10:22] <bur[n] er> dennis999: if that involves getting gstreamer0.8-mad and running gst-register-0.8, then yes :)
[10:23] <dennis999> lol
[10:23] <Delvien> four http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs ( YES i know its ubuntuguide.org, but this works for all ubuntu distros) so dont flame me everyone
[10:23] <bur[n] er> thread: I agree... still a pain for now though when ti doesn't have any features over amarok/rhtyhmbox
[10:23] <four> so this will allow me to load the drive and keep all data on it?
[10:23] <odie5533> Delvien, why is Ubuntuguide so hated? I never understood that...
[10:23] <ATIProblem> erUSUL, niks@Ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install fglrx-control,   libqt3-mt-psql libqt3-mt-mysql libqt3-mt-odbc
[10:23] <Boobek> byebye
[10:23] <Delvien> odie5533 it was made for warty, its not acurate as information givin here,
[10:24] <Stormx2> farruinn: Stop telling me that. Everyone uses the "ubotu: tell someone about whatever" method. So shut up.
[10:24] <odie5533> Delvien, the help and support in Breezy had everything to get me started. Its quite useful
[10:24] <erUSUL> ATIProblem, what is the problem
[10:24] <erUSUL> ??
[10:24] <WalrusU> so basically it's "I hate ubuntuguide because it's a version behind"? As I understand it the site maintainer had a heart attack and is taking it easier
[10:24] <ATIProblem> erUSUL, ok i installed xorg-driver-fglrx, i didnt need to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386, i cant install fglrx-control
[10:24] <zenwhen> odie5533, because there is a sentiment shared by some members of our community that there should be no alternative tot he wiki for gathering and displaying ubuntu releated tips and tricks
[10:24] <Delvien> odie5533  not me, mostly because im on a Laptop with alot of unsupported linux stuff
[10:25] <farruinn> Stormx2: no need to take offense, just a suggestion to cut down on noise
[10:25] <Delvien> Dell now offers a open source computer :/
[10:25] <odie5533> zenwhen, the wiki is useful, but theres no good index for it.
[10:25] <ATIProblem> what i need to do now? i just installed xorg-driver-fglrx and all.. :] 
[10:25] <Delvien> with no OS :(
[10:25] <zenwhen> odie5533, I am not one of those people.
[10:25] <WalrusU> better too much info than too little. Though I admit, the wiki has gotten more useful since I started clicking the text button as opposed to title :P
[10:25] <Delvien> how do you figure if your Vid card is conf correctly, i forget
[10:26] <zenwhen> I am a big fan of the forums, being on the staff and all.
[10:26] <ATIProblem> what i need to do now? i just installed xorg-driver-fglrx and all.. :] 
[10:26] <erUSUL> ATIProblem, why you couldn't install fglrx-control??
[10:26] <ATIProblem> erUSUL i cant
[10:26] <fbn> where should I place options for kernel modules? /etc/modutils/alsa-base or /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base ?
[10:26] <ATIProblem> niks@Ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install fglrx-control
[10:27] <ATIProblem> erUSUL,   libqt3-mt-psql libqt3-mt-mysql libqt3-mt-odbc... suggested packages when i type apt-get install...
[10:27] <blueblood> Hello guys, I got a question about my Nvidia GF7800GT... When I trie to run the driverinstaller, it complain about the kernel-source.. Where do I find the correct source to use? I checked kernel.org, but coudlnt fint my exact version.. 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8
[10:27] <Delvien> ATIproblem im doing that now :( not looking forward to geting my ATI x300 128mb PCI-E working with linux , its a pain
[10:27] <snoopy> got a question about xvid, divx codecs....I installed them with easy ubuntu and when i use kino, it does not recognixe the miles even though mplayer does..
[10:27] <mattpj1> im having a problem locating the codecs for mp3 ??
[10:27] <Stormx2> ubotu: tell mattpj1 about mp3
[10:27] <erUSUL> ATIProblem, edit xorg.conf directly
[10:27] <dennis999> guys
[10:27] <ATIProblem> Delvien :] 
[10:27] <Delvien> mattpj1 let me look for a link
[10:27] <dennis999> Is there an itunes equivilent for linux?
[10:28] <Delvien> amaroK !
[10:28] <dennis999> I mean like an mp3 organizing program...that keeps everything in sort
[10:28] <mattpj1> stormx2 i follwed that guide i cant find it tho
[10:28] <coolkev> for some reaosn i cannot access any website for google.. i type www.google.com and it won't work, but i type somehting like yahoo or hotmail they work fine
[10:28] <ATIProblem> erUSUL, ok i installed xorg-driver-fglrx, now i need to edit xorg.conf and restart = wola...?
[10:28] <dennis999> amarok is for kde :(
[10:28] <Stormx2> mattpj1: Did you try the steps?
[10:28] <coolkev> I'm on hoary and 1.0.7 firefox
[10:28] <Delvien> dennis999 not really
[10:28] <Stormx2> mattpj1: Let me give you it exactly
[10:28] <dennis999> well
[10:28] <snoopy> dennis999: so install kde
[10:28] <dennis999> it looks wierd in gnome ;)
[10:28] <Delvien> dennis999 i used it in gnome
[10:28] <El_Che> dennis999: rhythmbox for mp3, gtkpod for ipod handling
[10:28] <Madpilot> Delvien: have you tried the "starting with X shut down" part of the wiki's ATI guide? That's what I had to do w/ my ATI 9600XT
[10:28] <erUSUL> ATIProblem, you need to edit /etc/modules too
[10:28] <four> this page gives me command lines to type, where do i go about typing in the command lines?
[10:28] <four> forgive my newbness
[10:28] <dennis999> Amarok looks wierd in GNome
[10:28] <dennis999> Its using the kde theme :/
[10:28] <ATIProblem> erUSUL and thats all? what i need to edit in /etc/modules?
[10:28] <Stormx2> mattpj1: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[10:28] <Delvien> Madpilot with my 3 instlls of ubuntu i never got it to work , you have a link?
[10:29] <Madpilot> four: in a terminal - Applications menu -> Accessories -> Terminal
[10:29] <Madpilot> !tell Delvien about ati
[10:29] <WalrusU> you know... if it wasn't for the hours spent trying to figure out stuff, newbieness is fun, I'm stumbling across all kinds of neat ways to do things
[10:29] <erUSUL> ATIProblem, in /etc/modules add a line with fglrx in it
[10:29] <four> k thanks brb
[10:29] <mattpj1> stormx2 i tried that it dont find it
[10:29] <snoopy> got a question about video codecs...
[10:29] <ATIProblem> ok, and what in xorg.conf?
[10:29] <Stormx2> mattpj1: Didn't find what. Could you give the output?
[10:29] <mattpj1> yes i did apt-get update also
[10:29] <mattpj1> im having problems with the aptget tho
[10:29] <mattpj1> some error about a cd er something
[10:29] <Stormx2> mattpj1: Make sure you use "sudo"
[10:29] <_jason> snoopy:  ask away
[10:29] <snoopy> i have the xvid and divx codecs installed and works in mplayer but does not work in kino or cinelerra
[10:30] <mattpj1> pm me stormx2 ill show u
[10:30] <Delvien> Madpilot what if this Fs up my X or something how would i fix it
[10:30] <Stormx2> snoopy: Support may be available with plugins. Look at synaptic.
[10:30] <gorii> Hi, anybody know when the 2.6.14 is to be expected in Breezy?
[10:30] <erUSUL> ATIProblem, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf you need to put in the section Device in the line that says Driver "ati"
[10:30] <mattpj1> i am using sudo
[10:30] <Stormx2> By The way, does anyone know a keyboard shortcut to terminal?
[10:30] <mattpj1> here ill pastebin it then
[10:30] <Madpilot> Delvien: AFAIK the worst that will happen is that you still won't have 3d working...
[10:30] <_jason> mattpj1:  pastebin your sources.list
[10:30] <erUSUL> ATIProblem, put Driver "fglrx"
[10:30] <snoopy> _jason: i played a video with divx codec in mplayer, but when i tried to read in the file in kino it would not work
[10:31] <Delvien> MAdpilot okie doike
[10:31] <erUSUL> ATIProblem, instead
[10:31] <ATIProblem> ?? :) erUSUL, what in xorg.conf, btw. big, big tnx... and when i will finish editing xorg.conf, just restart and ati drivers ready?
[10:31] <Delvien> Madpilot how do i check what my ATI driver is listed, and if 3d is working
[10:31] <Madpilot> Delvien: "fglrxinfo" in a terminal
[10:31] <snoopy> Stormx2: it is listed as being installed in synaptic
[10:31] <Delvien> mesa !
[10:31] <Delvien> eek
[10:31] <_jason> snoopy:  sorry never used those players/editors...
[10:32] <mattpj1> http://pastebin.com/411422
[10:32] <erUSUL> ATIProblem, yes it should. Do backups of files before editing just in case
[10:32] <snoopy> _jason: thanks anyway
[10:32] <corvus_ferrum> does anyone know where i can find my IP address?
[10:32] <snoopy> corvus_ferrum: whatismyip.com
[10:32] <Delvien> Madpilot why is it saying Xfree86-DRI   i thought it had to be X.org
[10:32] <Akatemik> Does ubuntu-live actually install something? It seemed like it booted again...
[10:32] <corvus_ferrum> snoopy: thankyou
[10:32] <Madpilot> Delvien: are you running Breezy?
[10:32] <snoopy> corvus_ferrum: no problem
[10:32] <Delvien> Madpilot yes
[10:33] <osfameron> heh, nice site
[10:33] <ATIProblem> erUSUL i installed xorg-driver-fglrx edited 2 files, now i can restart? btw. i installed fglrx-control :] ] 
[10:33] <mattpj1> theres the error i get with apt-get http://pastebin.com/411422
[10:33] <Delvien> ATIproblem you running breezy too?
[10:33] <ATIProblem> yes
[10:33] <Madpilot> Delvien: I'm not sure what tht means..
[10:33] <_jason> mattpj1:  you have the cd rom in your sources, so when synaptic searches for the repo and your cd rom isn't in the drive it complains, jsut remove cdrom from your sources.list
[10:34] <Delvien> ATIproglem what does flgrx give you?
[10:34] <_jason> mattpj1:  you are running hoary right?
[10:34] <Madpilot> Breezy + ATI = irritating trouble. I had no problems in Hoary...
[10:34] <Crembo> hello everyone! is there any friendly way to import my fonts from windows (I already figured out how to mount the drive..)? what's "defoma" - that directory also seems to contain fonts?
[10:34] <Madpilot> !tell Crembo about fonts
[10:34] <Delvien> ATIproblem what does flgrx give you?
[10:34] <erUSUL> ATIProblem, yes restart the whole computer or just X (Crtl. + Alt. + Backspace)
[10:34] <odie5533> Is there a good standard font set for a terminal? I find the default to be a bit hard to read
[10:34] <snoopy> Crembo: you can use easy ubuntu to get all the fonts and stuff
[10:34] <mattpj1> _jason ill show u the list 1 second
[10:34] <Crembo> 'easy ubuntu'? I thought ubuntu was already supposed to be easy
[10:35] <ATIProblem> ok, thankyou, big tnx... ill come back and say tnx if drivers wil work :}
[10:35] <Madpilot> snoopy: "easy Ubuntu" seems to break some people's computers...
[10:35] <Madpilot> Crembo: did you see the msg from ubotu? follow that URL, adding new fonts to Ubuntu is easy
[10:35] <snoopy> Madpilot: probably what happened to mine
[10:36] <snoopy> Madpilot: my xvid codecs dont work..
[10:36] <bina> whats the password file in Ubuntu? shadow something?  also, where is it :)
[10:36] <bina> ah got it :)
[10:37] <Cryptid> how do i mount my Fat32 system Harddisk which is at /hdb in breezy
[10:37] <Octane> anyone else getting errors installing skype here
[10:37] <Garyu> hey there guys, can someone help me with making a backup of my / ? Do I need to boot from LiveCD, mount / and then burn everything to disk?
[10:38] <Delvien> brb restarting
[10:39] <Cryptid> how do i mount vFat file system on Ubuntu Breezy??
[10:39] <Garyu> Cryptid: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountfat
[10:39] <mattpj1> sorry i took so long
[10:39] <mattpj1> http://pastebin.com/411432
[10:39] <Madpilot> !tell Garyu about ubuntuguide
[10:40] <mattpj1> wheres the apt-get list at i forget what its called
[10:40] <Garyu> Madpilot, yeah,yeah, I know..
[10:40] <coolkev> ubuto how are you
[10:40] <ATIProblem> damn mzfcks, its not workin` OpenGL version string: 1.3.5272 (X4.3.0-8.16.20)
[10:40] <Garyu> .. but some basic ifnromation there is just right :)
[10:40] <coolkev> ubotu how are you
[10:40] <ubotu> coolkev: you know how it is...
[10:40] <Madpilot> Garyu & Cryptid: use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions instead
[10:40] <coolkev> ubotu having fun answering questions
[10:41] <ubotu> coolkev: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:41] <cusco> Garyu: can't you just tar zcvf bak.tar.gz /*
[10:41] <coolkev> ubotu i don't recall
[10:41] <ubotu> coolkev: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:41] <cusco> and then bun the bak.tar.gz?
[10:41] <n0odl3> can someone tell me the general process of compiling source code
[10:41] <cusco> burn
[10:41] <coolkev> ubotu tell me about wind32codec
[10:41] <n0odl3> im trying to compile the zsnes 1.42 source
[10:41] <bluefrog-10> who has installed breezy directly from hard disk and could give me help, pls?
[10:41] <Garyu> cusco: perhaps.. I'm not a big tar hero
[10:41] <_jason> mattpj1:  yeah just comment that first line and the cdrom errors should go away
[10:41] <coolkev> ubotu tell me about win32codec
[10:41] <ATIProblem> erUSUL, damn mzfcks, its not workin` OpenGL version string: 1.3.5272 (X4.3.0-8.16.20)
[10:41] <Garyu> cusco: does that work on a 'running' partition?
[10:41] <Cryptid> Madpilot, i herd Breezy automatically mounts vfat drives isnt that true
[10:41] <coolkev> ubotu tell me about breezy
[10:41] <cusco> !win32codec
[10:41] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, cusco
[10:41] <n0odl3> !tell coolkev wind32codec
[10:41] <_jason> ubotu:  tell coolkev about w32codecs
[10:41] <cusco> !wind32codec
[10:41] <ubotu> cusco: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:41] <Madpilot> Cryptid: no idea, sorry. This is a Windows-free computer ;)
[10:42] <Delvien> WOOT my ati card works, that was very pain free
[10:42] <cusco> !win32codec2
[10:42] <ubotu> Not a clue, cusco
[10:42] <mattpj1> _jason wheres the apt-get list located i forgot?
[10:42] <coolkev> lol
[10:42] <coolkev> ubotu lol
[10:42] <ubotu> rumour has it, lol is "laugh out loud"
[10:42] <n0odl3> !win32codec
[10:42] <Madpilot> !+win32codec
[10:42] <_jason> mattpj1:  /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:42] <ubotu> Madpilot: Are you on ritalin?
[10:42] <steve> ati card works?
[10:42] <steve> impossible
[10:42] <Delvien> 3d works, everything works,
[10:42] <Delvien> yay !
[10:42] <ailean> hello
[10:42] <ATIProblem> aaaaaaaaw, well... i try tommorow... mzfcks :{
[10:42] <Delvien> and it only took 3 minutes
[10:43] <Madpilot> Delvien: the 'reconfig w/o X' worked, then?
[10:43] <Delvien> ATIPROBLEM yours doesnt work?
[10:43] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to compile source?
[10:43] <Delvien> Madpilot i changed driver in Xorg, and it works
[10:43] <ailean> anyone with experience with nVidia drivers? please msg me
[10:43] <Delvien> Now lets try Svideo !!!
[10:44] <steve> nope
[10:44] <Cryptid> Madpilot, are u running Breezy??
[10:44] <steve> ive tried many times, it doesn't work
[10:44] <steve> yes
[10:44] <Madpilot> Cryptid: yes
[10:44] <Toccy> Hey
[10:44] <alla1> How can i get 2 rows of active programs in the Gnome taskbar ?
[10:45] <alla1> like in windows
[10:45] <Toccy> I've just installed a dual boot with windows ect ect and I want to edit the file boot/grub/menu.lst but I don't have permissions. How can I edit this file?
[10:45] <Madpilot> steve: have you used the 'reconfigure with X shut down' suggestion in the Ubuntu wiki ATI page?
[10:45] <erUSUL> Toccy, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:45] <Toccy> Thanks
[10:46] <Cryptid> Madpilot, well in System>Administrator>Disks i am able to see my second hard drive which is in Fat32 format but i am unable to read and write data to it what should i do?
[10:46] <spudse> gedit makes all kind of files ending with ~ i think they are temp files, but they are not being removes
[10:46] <spudse> removed
[10:46] <Stormx2> spudse: They are backups
[10:46] <erUSUL> Cryptid, already mounted?
[10:46] <Stormx2> spudse: Its merely a convenience thing.
[10:46] <Delvien> Ok so TV -out doesnt work , oh well not a huge deal
[10:47] <steve> any1 know how to shrink ext3 partition?
[10:47] <steve> delv, how'd you get it working?
[10:47] <erUSUL> !tell Cryptid about windowsdrives
[10:47] <n0odl3> anyone here a programmer?
[10:48] <Wellark> yeah, why?
[10:48] <Cryptid> erUSUL, well this is the same method used in hoary rite?i herd breezy automatically detects and mounts MS partitions isnt that true?
[10:48] <n0odl3> Wellwark: do you know how to compile source?
[10:48] <thrush> n0odl3: what are u trying to compile?
[10:50] <n0odl3> thrush: the source code for zsnes 1.42
[10:50] <FunnyLookinHat> Any idea when ubuntu apt sources will have new kernel up?
[10:50] <n0odl3> thrush: it comes with servral files
[10:50] <erUSUL> Cryptid, do not know i have dist-upgraded from haory. same fstab no problems ;)
[10:50] <n0odl3> thrush: also im intereseted in programming and i cant seem to compile hello world
[10:50] <thrush> n0odl3: there should be a readme or install file is there?
[10:50] <thrush> n0odl3: what language
[10:50] <ra21vi> hi, is there any source cd of Ubuntu available to compile machine specific
[10:50] <bluefrog-10> who has installed breezy directly from hard disk and could give me help, pls?
[10:51] <CarlFK> bluefrog-10 - iv done some wacky install stuff.. what's up?
[10:51] <theconartist> help!
[10:51] <theconartist> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[10:51] <theconartist> what must i do to fix this?
[10:51] <steve> can anyone tell me how to get ati board working?
[10:51] <bluefrog-10> CarlFK, booting from grub, the installer launhes straight away, can't pass it the iso-scan option
[10:51] <CarlFK> theconartist  - have you installed it?
[10:51] <n0odl3> thrush: c++
[10:51] <theconartist> CarlFK, indeed i have
[10:51] <Cryptid> erUSUL, well i did it without editing fstab just had to play around with System>Administrator>Disks
[10:51] <Madpilot> steve: I might have asked earlier, but have you follow the whole ATI page on the wiki?
[10:52] <steve> yes
[10:52] <RancidLM> hey all, does any one know how to install ubuntu off a Partition.. using Grub.. because i don't have a cdrom drive on the laptop.. any help would be greatly apreciated
[10:52] <steve> and i got mesa every time
[10:52] <bluefrog-10> CarlFK, tried to pass it from grub but it doesn't seem to work
[10:52] <theconartist> CarlFK, cpp (GCC) 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[10:52] <ckrueger> my ipod is really starting to piss me off
[10:52] <CarlFK> bluefrog-10 - sorry, I think I know what you are talking about, but have no clue how to help
[10:52] <Madpilot> steve: which card?
[10:52] <n0odl3> thrush: what do i write c++ with (an editor?)
[10:52] <Octane> im trying to upgrade my chroot32 to breezy -- is this normal: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3844
[10:52] <ckrueger> has anyone had any good luck with an ipod shuffle under Ubuntu?
[10:52] <Octane> aptitude wants to remove a shitload of packages
[10:52] <steve> mobility 9200
[10:52] <n0odl3> thrush: how do i compile the source for it?
[10:52] <Mabus06> !restrictedformats
[10:52] <ubotu> [restrictedformats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[10:53] <Garyu> Can i make a backup of a 'running' system with tar?
[10:53] <theconartist> anyone? :(
[10:53] <bruce_> hello
[10:53] <Garyu> or do I need a livecd for that?
[10:53] <Madpilot> steve: have you tried the 'reconfigure with X shut down' part too?
[10:53] <thrush> n0odl3: save your prog as like test.cpp and do like 'g++ test.cpp' to compile
[10:53] <vbgunz> I noticed something about connecting to Windows shares... If I do not connect to one for a while (I don't know the exact limit) trying to connect to one will take a long time (20 to 30 seconds)... *but* after I connect to one, if I attempt to connect to it again rather quickly (under a minute) it opens with lightning speed... It brings to the conclusion that somewhere along the lines is a timeout of some sort... How do I extend the time o
[10:53] <Mabus06> bruce_, sometimes it takes a while for your question to be answered. Be patient.
[10:53] <n0odl3> thrush: what editor do i use to make the program (what do i type it out in?
[10:54] <thrush> n0odl3: 'g++ test.cpp -o filname' to specify filename to create if u want to
[10:54] <steve> no, how do i shut down x
[10:54] <steve> i hit keys,
[10:54] <Mabus06> bruce_, what is your problem? sometimes there are better channells than this to get your questoin answered, if it's a more specific problem
[10:54] <thrush> n0odl3: any editor really gedot vi etc
[10:54] <thrush> gedit
[10:54] <steve> and it restarts
[10:54] <Mabus06> ctrl-alt-backspace steve
[10:54] <n0odl3> thrush: i c
[10:55] <bruce_> Mabus06 i have troubles with my touchpad... and i'm trying to get in the german ubuntu chanel.
[10:55] <n0odl3> thrush: thank you
[10:55] <thrush> n0odl3: write file and save as whatever.cpp and from term use g++ to compile
[10:56] <thrush> np
[10:56] <Mabus06> hmmm.... well if you're german there probably is a better channel bruce_ ... but I'm not so I wouldn't know
[10:56] <_jason> !de
[10:56] <fabien> hi there, wouls someone tell me if the ymessenger-debien is for ubuntu please?
[10:56] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[10:56] <n0odl3> uhh does anyone here use peer guardian?
[10:56] <Mabus06> well there you go bruce_ ! :)
[10:56] <bruce_> :) thx.
[10:56] <TestDummy> Can somebody tell me the packages needed to compile C/C++ code? I can never remember which ones it is exactly, and it's annoying the crap out of me.
[10:56] <bruce_> long time I used all this stuf... (IRC, Linux etc...)
[10:56] <_jason> TestDummy:  have you isntalled build-essential?
[10:56] <bruce_> thx for your help
[10:56] <mattpj1> im still having problems
[10:56] <Mabus06> I didn't really help but your welcome anyway. lol
[10:56] <_jason> mattpj1:  what problems
[10:56] <mattpj1> _jason i cant figure out which lines to delete for the apt-get to work
[10:56] <TestDummy> _jason: I remember that package, but I brought it up on synaptic and it didn't sound like the right thing.
[10:57] <vbgunz> actually more than a minute after connecting to a Windows share will connecting to it again result in it opening lightning fast... I am not sure of the time limit... *but* I know that if I do not connect to one for a while, it takes about 20 to 30+ seconds for a share to open... It seems opening a share within the time limit results in the share opening very quickly (instantly) whereas if you sleep and don't connect to the share after a c
[10:57] <n0odl3> TestDummy: sudo apt-get gcc; sudo apt-get G++
[10:57] <n0odl3> TestDummy: ignore the last command its sudo apt-get g++
[10:57] <_jason> mattpj1:  just put a "#" without the quotes) in front of the first line in your sources.list that starts with "cdrom"
[10:57] <bimberi> TestDummy: go with build-essential
[10:57] <_jason> mattpj1:  that will stop apt-get from complaining about not finding the cdrom, were there other problems?
[10:57] <erUSUL> TestDummy, install build-essentials
[10:57] <TestDummy> Okay.
[10:58] <TestDummy> I'll try that.
[10:58] <Mabus06> are there keys to switch between workspaces quickly?
[10:58] <TestDummy> But I can't really right now :P
[10:58] <TestDummy> Er, while I'm still in here, is there any sort of half-decent typing program for Linux?
[10:58] <Stormx2> what is the difference between hard links and symbolic links?
[10:58] <Stormx2> TestDummy: Open Office?
[10:58] <TestDummy> (Not for me, somebody else. I'm a half-decent typist already)
[10:58] <TestDummy> No, not a word processor.
[10:58] <vbgunz> vbgunz: hello
[10:58] <bimberi> Mabus06: not by default, but you can set them up System -> Prefs -> Keyboard Shortcuts "Switch to workspace #"
[10:59] <TestDummy> I mean, like one of those programs that teaches you how to type.
[10:59] <Madpilot> steve: I wound up just shutting down the computer and restarting it in Failsafe Mode
[10:59] <_jason> TestDummy:  like a typing tutor?
[10:59] <vbgunz> vbgunz: hello
[10:59] <TestDummy> Yes, that would be a better way to describe it.
[10:59] <_jason> TestDummy:  gtypist
[10:59] <Xenguy> TestDummy: tuxtype :-)
[10:59] <steve> madpilot ok. ill try
[10:59] <bimberi> TestDummy: are you typing your notes :P
[10:59] <bimberi> ?
[11:00] <TestDummy> Haha.
[11:00] <TestDummy> Nah.
[11:00] <_jason> lol
[11:00] <TestDummy> I should.
[11:00] <TestDummy> I forget stuff too easy.
[11:00] <bimberi> hehe
[11:01] <TestDummy> I think I should start off from scratch though, I installed a ton of uneeded stuff because I kept on guessing what packages I needed to do compiling.
[11:01] <Stormx2> 0xa2, what key would that be? :-\
[11:02] <TestDummy> Thanks for the help though, I'll look into those typing tutors, and that build-essential package :P
[11:04] <ailean> Can someone help me install the nVidia driver?  It's asking for the location of the kernel source code tree and i don't know what it's talking about
[11:04] <oasiao> so whats up people Im kind of new to Linux i really havent did any programming any suggestion where i should start to help out the open source community
[11:05] <erUSUL> ailean, installing from apt or nvidia site
[11:05] <erUSUL> ??
[11:05] <spudse> Stormx, but when I for instance move all the files somewhere else, they are still there
[11:05] <ailean> erUSUL, nvidia site
[11:05] <erUSUL> ailean, install linux-headers-[your kernel version] 
[11:05] <erUSUL> ailean, why not the one in repos??
[11:05] <ailean> erm
[11:05] <ailean> didn't know how to do it
[11:06] <r1rem> Does anyone know if it's possible to install msn messenger with linux?
[11:06] <ailean> erUSUL, i'm used to fedora and just got ubuntu today
[11:06] <erUSUL> !nvidia
[11:06] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:06] <neurogeek> Hello.. anyone here is into the process of developing ubuntu??
[11:06] <HrdwrBoB> r1rem: you want 'gaim'
[11:06] <HrdwrBoB> r1rem: it's already installed
[11:06] <HrdwrBoB> neurogeek: somewhat
[11:06] <erUSUL> !tell ailean about nvidia
[11:06] <oasiao> ailean you might find this is easier
[11:06] <oasiao> http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[11:06] <ailean> thanks erUSUL :)
[11:06] <Stormx2> :-< ubuntuguide.org baaad
[11:06] <HrdwrBoB> oasiao: please do not recommend ubuntuguide
[11:06] <erUSUL> ailean, you are wellcome
[11:07] <oasiao> why not
[11:07] <neurogeek> hramrach, Hello! i wanted to talk to somebody related to the project.. we've benn developing something you might be interested in--
[11:07] <Stormx2> outdated
[11:07] <neurogeek> HrdwrBoB, , Hello! i wanted to talk to somebody related to the project.. we've benn developing something you might be interested in--
[11:07] <oasiao> oh i know but the instructions for nvidia work though
[11:07] <r1rem> I got it! thanks!
[11:07] <neurogeek> hramrach, sorry
[11:07] <Stormx2> neurogeek: I'm not involved, but interested ^_^
[11:08] <neurogeek> Stormx2, cool!!
[11:08] <HrdwrBoB> neurogeek: you're best to post to the ubuntu-devel mailing list
[11:08] <erUSUL> oasiao, it's been said to be written by satan himself XD
[11:08] <HrdwrBoB> but do go on
[11:08] <oasiao> lol
[11:08] <HrdwrBoB> oasiao: it's instructions with no context
[11:08] <HrdwrBoB> !ubuntuguide
[11:08] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[11:09] <neurogeek> Ok, i'll tell you a few things ... Im from Venezuela, and we developing LGPL applicationes to make Linux easier to people and enterprises.. and we are very interested in ubuntu
[11:09] <oasiao> well then i wont suggest ubuntuguide no more
[11:09] <Stormx2> neurogeek: And so you should be ^_^
[11:09] <deano> is there a trick to getting mplayer installed on breezy?
[11:09] <_jason> ubotu:  tell deano about mplayer
[11:09] <Stormx2> deano: sudo apt-get install mplayer?
[11:09] <kevogod> deano, You select it and then install it.
[11:09] <erUSUL> deano, apt-get install mplayer ????
[11:09] <deano> it fails
[11:09] <HrdwrBoB> deano: it's in multiverse
[11:09] <_jason> deano:  read what ubotu sent you
[11:10] <erUSUL> !tell deano about repos
[11:10] <neurogeek> our main app is a Linux MetaInstaller that can install linux locally, remotely and massively, its called Cuaima
[11:10] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[11:10] <ubotu> :)
[11:10] <deano> I know how to run apt
[11:10] <Revellion> sup folks? ;)
[11:10] <Stormx2> neurogeek: Right. So why not use the installers packaged with the distros?
[11:10] <neurogeek> I wanted to see if guys from ubuntu are interested is taking this Installer to be Ubuntu's Installer..
[11:10] <bimberi> ubotu: tell deano about synaptic
[11:11] <bimberi> deano: sorry, i read that as "don't know" :/
[11:11] <r1rem> how could I get the last version of msn messenger, with webcam support
[11:11] <Stormx2> neurogeek: Well, we are in need of a more GUI-friendly installer. I think most people will agree
[11:11] <didinux> hello all, there is anyone who successfully installer  Power management on Acer TravelMate 2300 .. ?
[11:11] <erUSUL> neurogeek, better try in #ubuntu-dev
[11:11] <Stormx2> r1rem: There is a project of gaim, an outbranch, with support.
[11:11] <Unununium> I'm having difficulty enabling DRI: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/411448
[11:12] <neurogeek> Stormx2, I think the current ubuntu installer is kind of rough.. and sometimes crashes in some computers..
[11:12] <neurogeek> erUSUL, i'll give it a try, thx
[11:12] <Stormx2> neurogeek: Yep. Well, would it be a little more friendly, in a kind of Fedora Core-style installer?
[11:12] <nasimuto> I installed Ubuntu 5.10 on a HP Omnibook XE 2 and every time i insert my D-Link DWL-G630 wifi card to the pcmcia slot of my laptop, the screen goes blank and nothing works. If i remove the card from the slot, the screen is still blank. Only a restart helps. Any ideas on whats going on ?
[11:12] <fight> hi
[11:12] <oasiao> no one in Dev
[11:12] <QMario> Hello Fight!!! :)
[11:12] <QMario> Hello Seveas and ompaul!!! :)
[11:12] <Stormx2> neurogeek: I agree that the installer in ubuntu is in need of a new paint job, to say the least
[11:12] <Stormx2> ^_^
[11:13] <QMario> How do I install the JRE Plug-in for Firefox?
[11:13] <neurogeek> Stormx2, kind of.. but it was meant to be Web based..
[11:13] <erUSUL> nasimuto, a kernel bug maybe?
[11:13] <deano> The thing is when I go to install mplayer it tells me I have unmet dependencies, however those dependencies are not available for install
[11:13] <Stormx2> neurogeek: wow.
[11:13] <nasimuto> erUSUL:  hmm, i installed default ubuntu
[11:13] <[dEvIL-BoY] > nasimuto,  i'm trying to install a dwl-g650+ and the light keeps staying on
[11:13] <fight> QMario,  lo :)
[11:13] <[dEvIL-BoY] > and nothing happens
[11:13] <[dEvIL-BoY] > :s
[11:13] <bur[n] er> deano: have all the repositories enabled?
[11:13] <nasimuto> dwl-g630 is not sopposed to have linux support btw
[11:14] <neurogeek> Stormx2, here are some screenshots.. they are in spanish right now.. but you can see the graphics  http://www.latinux.org/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=8
[11:14] <anto9us> neurogeek, you should look at the ubuntu community website, particularly http://www.ubuntu.com/community/teams/installer that lists the people to contact
[11:14] <r1rem> What do you mean?
[11:14] <deano> bur[n] er: yes
[11:14] <Stormx2> neurogeek: Let me take a look
[11:14] <bur[n] er> deano: pick mplayer-686 ??
[11:14] <fight> i want to build a c source file, but i haven't stdio.h or iosteam.h, etc. How can I get them ? thank you.
[11:14] <_jason> deano:  what package are you installing and what dependencies does it say it fails on
[11:14] <neurogeek> anto9us, thanks!
[11:14] <anto9us> yw
[11:14] <deano> I was using mplayer-586
[11:15] <erUSUL> fight, install build-essentials
[11:15] <neurogeek> erUSUL, nobody there ...
[11:15] <bur[n] er> or that
[11:15] <fight> erUSUL, ok thank you ;-)
[11:15] <erUSUL> is #ubuntu-devel sorry
[11:15] <jbrouhard> Anyone here use bochs
[11:15] <neurogeek> Oh :o
[11:15] <erUSUL> neurogeek,  is #ubuntu-devel sorry
[11:15] <ailean> thanks erUSUL - nVidia is working and ubuntu looks MUCH better :D
[11:15] <Unununium> jbrouhard: a few times
[11:15] <jbrouhard> I'm having some major problems getting it to run here.
[11:16] <anto9us> jbrouhard, have you tried qemu?
[11:16] <Stormx2> neurogeek: looks impressive
[11:16] <jbrouhard> but if you have a better solution (other than VMWare, I'm all ears...
[11:16] <erUSUL> ailean, you are wellcome... ;) that's why we are here
[11:16] <jbrouhard> no..
[11:17] <oasiao> hey erUSUL what info did u share with ailean about nvidia?
[11:17] <jbrouhard> Convinent
[11:17] <jbrouhard> Can't get it off apt-get
[11:17] <bur[n] er> qemu doesn't compare in speed to VMWare (so i'm told)
[11:17] <vbgunz> vbgunz: hello
[11:17] <jbrouhard> NM
[11:17] <neurogeek> Stormx2, thanks.. is written in python + javascript.. its in alpha now.. but soon enough will be beta
[11:17] <jbrouhard> I hit it wrong
[11:17] <erUSUL> !tell oasiao about nvidia
[11:17] <anto9us> my name please
[11:17] <erUSUL> oasiao, it was ubotu not me ;)
[11:17] <bur[n] er> lol
[11:17] <QMario> !Firefox
[11:17] <ubotu> QMario: Are you smoking crack?
[11:17] <vbgunz> anto9us: haha :P
[11:17] <QMario> No
[11:17] <Stormx2> neurogeek: Looks good. I know JS quite well :-) Can't understand how it would install linux but heh
[11:17] <oasiao> ah ok thanks let me look
[11:17] <anto9us> sorry vbgunz :)
[11:17] <ailean> !RealPlayer
[11:17] <ubotu> realplayer is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:17] <QMario> !Plug-in
[11:17] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, QMario
[11:17] <vbgunz> ahhh, yes, so sweet
[11:17] <vbgunz> thanks you anto9us... Thanks for your tips yesterday!
[11:17] <bur[n] er> QMario: msg ubotu to play wiht the bot ;)
[11:17] <anto9us> yw
[11:18] <neurogeek> Stormx2, JS is not the installer.. Python is.. but JS do some nice things like XML-RPC to ask about the ongoing installation process
[11:18] <Stormx2> neurogeek: I see.
[11:19] <oasiao> so basically for linux the virus scanners are for servers?
[11:19] <daryl> hi, can anyone help me with a Ubuntu problem?
[11:19] <QMario> Bur[n] er, how do I install the JRE Plug-in for Firefox?
[11:19] <erUSUL> daryl, ask
[11:20] <anto9us> !java
[11:20] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[11:20] <oasiao> the bot is tlaking german to me
[11:20] <oasiao> talking
[11:21] <Delvien> stupd  question, will having a small subwoofer by a wireless router hurt the router?
[11:21] <ailean> !MPlayer
[11:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:21] <erUSUL> oasiao, it does when gets upset XDDDDD
[11:21] <oasiao> uhoh
[11:21] <UrbanFox> Delvien> doubtful
[11:21] <Delvien> cool thanks
[11:21] <googiieee> hi,
[11:21] <anto9us> oasiao, viruses under linux are virtually unheard of, you may want to scan your shared directories though, they can get infected by windows machines
[11:21] <daryl> When i sign on as root with sudo in the terminal everything works great until asked for password. The my keyboard won't type anything.
[11:22] <Mabus06> !mplayer
[11:22] <ubotu> from memory, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:22] <googiieee> I do have problem with apt-get in ubuntu 5,04
[11:22] <Mabus06> uh... !mplayer link has no info on it
[11:22] <fight> bye and thank you.
[11:22] <Mabus06> how do I install mplayer?
[11:22] <erUSUL> daryl, you can see the caracters for security reasons but it is typing normally
[11:22] <_jason> Mabus06:  that link is fine on my computer.  You don't see anything?
[11:22] <erUSUL> characters*
[11:23] <erUSUL> daryl, can't*
[11:23] <Mabus06> oh nm _jason ..... I was linked by another wiki article and that article linked to a page that hadn't been created yet
[11:23] <daryl> so this is normal?
[11:23] <Mabus06> the text of the link was almost identical to that one, I didn'tbother checking
[11:24] <Delvien> 3ddesktop doesnt work with KDE? or does it
[11:24] <erUSUL> daryl, in graphics aplications they echo points in console they echo nothing. is normal yes
[11:24] <SupIAmMike> how do i get xvid to play in ubuntu?
[11:24] <cormorano> hi @ll
[11:25] <SupIAmMike> sudo apt-get install xine (and gmplayer, mplayer, mplayer-skins, xvid) didnt work
[11:25] <tristanmike> !tell SupIAmMike about w32deb
[11:25] <Suepahfly> SupIAmMike: try vlc player, comes with codec and all right from the repo
[11:25] <tristanmike> vlc is great too, the best imo.
[11:25] <Exodus> VLC rox.
[11:26] <Exodus> apt-get install vlc
[11:26] <Exodus> that's all.
[11:26] <Hoxzer> !tell about w32deb
[11:26] <daryl> erUSUL, i'm new to linux thanks for help
[11:26] <SupIAmMike> thanks
[11:26] <oasiao> how do i open my xorg.conf through terminal
[11:26] <Hoxzer> !tell Hoxzer about w32deb
[11:26] <Unununium> vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:26] <Unununium> for example
[11:26] <Exodus> use nano
[11:26] <tristanmike> oasiao, use gedit
[11:26] <thrush> oasiao: u prob want sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, or sudo nano
[11:26] <Lioda> Hi
[11:26] <erUSUL> daryl, you are wellcome. we all have been new to linux back in the day
[11:26] <ailean> what repo would i find mplayer on?
[11:27] <crimsun> !info mplayer-586
[11:27] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[11:27] <ailean> ta
[11:27] <oasiao> ok thanks
[11:27] <Lioda> I try to find some help about kernel 2.6.14 ubuntu build + powerbook5,6 ... Cause when I'm reboot I have a kernel panic VBFS: ...
[11:28] <Seveas> there is no ubuntu 2.6.14 kernel yet and if you did not use make-kpkg to roll your own kernel it will be hard to support it
[11:28] <Seveas> but check your initrd. Something is missing
[11:28] <ailean> my multiverse repo doesn't work - does anyone have an alternative that does?
[11:28] <r1rem> how could I get this?
[11:28] <crimsun> ailean: why doesn't it work?
[11:29] <Seveas> !tell ailean about repos
[11:29] <QMario> Thank you anto9us!!! :)
[11:29] <QMario> I will do just that.
[11:29] <QMario> Thank God! :)
[11:29] <ailean> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.182 80] 
[11:29] <rexykik> hey bluefrog-10, you around?
[11:29] <Delvien> Does anyone know if 3dDesktop works in KDE?
[11:30] <arkais> hi
[11:30] <tristanmike> Delvien, http://desk3d.sourceforge.net/faq.php   Check out number 8
[11:31] <Lioda> Seveas: Ok in fact I use the official kernel source because they made a lot of modifications for powerbook5,6 and I use make-kpkg , but how can I find what's wrong in the initrd ?
[11:31] <bimberi> ailean: there are no breezy backports (yet) comment the line out of your sources.list
[11:31] <Delvien> tristanmike thanks bro
[11:32] <Seveas> Lioda, I don't have a mac and the FB (framebuffer) things are very mac specific iirc, so I won't be able to help much
[11:32] <tristanmike> yup, yup
[11:32] <Seveas> bimberi, heh, I already backported a few things from dapper to breezy ;)
[11:32] <ailean> ok bimberi - i still can't see mplayer in synaptic though
[11:33] <Lioda> Perhaps you have an iirc where I can find some ideas ?...
[11:33] <bimberi> Seveas: haha, well yes, there is that :)
[11:33] <propagandhi> where do you find the server edition of ubuntu
[11:33] <Revellion> propagandhi: eh?
[11:33] <bimberi> !server
[11:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html
[11:33] <Revellion> :|
[11:34] <propagandhi> cool thanks
[11:34] <darius> I have problems with http://music.yahoo.com ; I did sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer mplayer-386 and "play launch" plugin installed, but...:Sorry, we are unable to support Netscape 6.0+ at this time. ...I'got ( sorry for my english)
[11:34] <tristanmike> Lioda, iirc="if i recall correctly"
[11:34] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, yep
[11:34] <bimberi> ailean: is multiverse enabled? what architecture are you on?
[11:35] <Unununium> darius: tell Yahoo to fix their site
[11:35] <ailean> bimberi, 586 - multiverse is enabled as far as i can see
[11:35] <erUSUL> !tell ailean about repos
[11:35] <bimberi> ailean: done apt-get update?
[11:36] <bimberi> ailean: also, note that the package is mplayer-586
[11:36] <Lioda> OOoops I spoke about a channel to find some solutions about 2.6.14 + powerbook5,6
[11:36] <ailean> yeah
[11:36] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, am around but u may be spending a penny for now then :)
[11:36] <tristanmike> darius, hoary or breezy?
[11:36] <darius> breezy
[11:37] <ailean> on the page erUSUL sent me, it says the repo is at "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse" is that correct???? with spaces?
[11:37] <tristanmike> darius, have you been here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75400
[11:37] <Seveas> darius, it's a stupid browser check in their site
[11:37] <Seveas> go yell at them :)
[11:37] <Madpilot> ailean: yes, with spaces
[11:37] <erUSUL> ailean, yes
[11:37] <ailean> Mabus06, erUSUL ok :)
[11:37] <ailean> sorry for being so stupid
[11:37] <googiieee> hi, does anyone has the problem with connecting to backports by using apt-get update
[11:38] <ColD_7> anyone using torrent to download ubuntu before?
[11:38] <Madpilot> googiieee: there are no Breezy backports
[11:38] <starscalling> oi
[11:39] <ColD_7> i hope that who is using torrent to download before can open the torrent
[11:40] <ColD_7> :)
[11:40] <Oti1> I configured my eth0 to get an IP address through DHCP at boot time but it doesn't have one when I look into the properties ... is there a log file (boot log ?) that would contain potential errors related to this problem ?
[11:40] <Oti1> and is there a CLI command for making the device do a DHCP query ?
[11:41] <Mabus06> ailean, ??
[11:41] <alexissoft> hi
[11:41] <erUSUL> Oti1, dhcpclient eth0
[11:41] <ailean> still can't get it Mabus06
[11:41] <Oti1> erUSUL: many thanks
[11:41] <darius> I'll check
[11:41] <erUSUL> Oti1, dhclient eth0
[11:42] <ailean> Mabus06, i have multiverse enabled, and i'm using synaptic, NOT APT - what should i do?
[11:42] <googiieee> to Madpilot: can we talk over ordinary chat
[11:42] <ailean> Mabus06, i can use apt right enough
[11:42] <starscalling> ah thats better :)
[11:42] <Madpilot> googiieee: what's up?
[11:42] <ailean> Mabus06, but it can't find mplayer-586
[11:42] <bluefrog-10> ailean, synaptic graphic interface for apt
[11:42] <erUSUL> ailean, use the search button in synaptic
[11:43] <ckrueger> anyone here good with ipod shuffles?
[11:43] <Unununium> I'll just take my question (DRI stuff) to the x.org lists.  Thanks anyway.
[11:43] <ckrueger> or know of a good resource for me?
[11:43] <googiieee> ok, I use user guide book
[11:43] <bluefrog-10> ailean, u have to reload once having checked multiverse
[11:43] <oasiao> so anyone use KDE here?
[11:44] <starscalling> ive been messing with xorg.conf setting up different ways of making my dual monitors act. i have the nvidia fx5200 so i have made the twinview work where it uses one xsession and stretches over 2 screens letting applications maximize independantly on each, while letting me drag said applications from one desktop to the other.
[11:44] <jbrouhard> I do
[11:44] <ailean> bluefrog-10, yeah, i know, but all the locations on that page are not found
[11:44] <googiieee> I set the sources list as it was written there
[11:44] <ailean> http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/dists/hoary-extras/breezy/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 203.16.234.20 80] 
[11:44] <bluefrog-10> ailean, they may be down...
[11:44] <ailean> would you be able to check on your system?
[11:45] <starscalling> ive finally gotten the other method of 2 seperate xsessions working too now, where i cannot drag them, and the desktops are independant, yet i can still move across them with my mouse.
[11:45] <bluefrog-10> ailean, backports are not open
[11:45] <josh43> anyone here got EVDEV working?
[11:45] <ailean> k
[11:45] <Madpilot> ailean: Hoary extras won't work in Breezy...
[11:45] <bluefrog-10> ailean, don't check them
[11:45] <erUSUL> ailean, why do you need this source
[11:45] <erUSUL> ??
[11:45] <ailean> in which repo do i get mplayer??
[11:45] <bluefrog-10> multiverse
[11:45] <Madpilot> ailean: Multiverse
[11:45] <ailean> that's enabled and it doesn't seem to be there
[11:45] <googiieee> ## Backports
[11:45] <googiieee> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main
[11:45] <googiieee> universe multiverse restricted
[11:45] <googiieee> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main
[11:45] <googiieee> universe multiverse restricted
[11:45] <ailean> i don't know what i'm doing wrong
[11:45] <Oti1> erUSUL: I see a bunch of DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 255.255.255.255 ... is that normal ?
[11:45] <Madpilot> ailean: hit the Reload button in synaptic
[11:45] <googiieee> It does not work
[11:45] <josh43> ailean, If you really need, there's a repo listed on the mplayer site
[11:46] <starscalling> what i was wondering is if anyone knows how to select which xorg.conf for gdm to run, so that i can leave both in there and choose which to run without having to copy over each other :)
[11:46] <Oti1> my DHCP "server" is a Linksys router .. should I not provide the router's address somehwere ?
[11:46] <Madpilot> googiieee: those backports were shut down
[11:46] <googiieee> I can not connect to backports
[11:46] <googiieee> Well
[11:46] <Madpilot> !tell googiieee about backports
[11:46] <erUSUL> Oti1, i do not know i have not used dhclient myself
[11:46] <Oti1> ok
[11:46] <Oti1> cheers
[11:46] <ColD_7> to all the bit torrent user who download ubuntu before using it, please open the software so that i can gain a larger bandwidth to download, thanks
[11:46] <josh43> Otil; Are the offers the same mac address?
[11:46] <erUSUL> Oti1, man dhcclient
[11:47] <mfuentes> Hi, I have a ISDN with a external modem, connected by ppp.  I set the option "persist" for automatic re-connection, but does not function. Any idea?
[11:47] <josh43> Otil; I mean, discovers
[11:47] <Oti1> erUSUL: good idea, I'll do that
[11:47] <Oti1> hm, I'll have to check
[11:47] <Oti1> josh43: AH ! I know what the problem could be ....
[11:47] <googiieee> I do use Ubuntu 5,04
[11:47] <erUSUL> ailean, you do not need backports to install mplayer it is in multiverse
[11:47] <Oti1> josh43: the Linksys spoofs the MAC address of the PC to the outside world ...
[11:47] <Oti1> josh43: think there could be a conflict ?
[11:48] <josh43> Otil; NEVER spoof mac addresses.. that's the worst feature they have
[11:48] <Oti1> josh43: I mean that both the Linksys and the PC have the same MAC
[11:48] <josh43> Otil; Betcha
[11:48] <starscalling> josh43: why would you say such a thing.
[11:48] <ailean> i've finally found it, but my system is still not set up properly . . .
[11:48] <ailean> thanks all
[11:48] <Oti1> josh43: well the spoofing just never caused a problem until today (if that's the root cause)
[11:48] <starscalling> spoofing your mac address can come in very handy now and again.
[11:48] <Madpilot> googiieee: ubotu should have sent you a msg - with working hoary backport links
[11:48] <josh43> Otil; Esp linksys, I've seen the pc request an ip from the outside world, and the router throw a wrench into everything
[11:49] <Oti1> yeah, I mean my ISP has locked down my connection to one MAC address, meaning that in theory I shouldn't be able to connect numerous PCs in my house to the 'net
[11:49] <josh43> Otil; Consumer level routers break.. it's much better to just know what you are doing and not clone it.. cloning is a hack that rarely always works
[11:49] <rexykik> bluefrog-10, any specific reason you told me not to make a compressed image when using partimage?
[11:50] <rexykik> Oti1, you could change the MAC address of all the other computers' nics to be equal
[11:50] <josh43> Otil; yeah, just unclone it, and register the real MAC of the router
[11:50] <ailean> i think i understand it guys - THANKS
[11:50] <moparfan90> hello. does anyone know if theres a channel for mac os
[11:50] <Oti1> josh43: fair point
[11:50] <moparfan90> ?
[11:50] <ailean> apologies for my ignorance
[11:50] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, yes don't select the third option compression, it's a nightmare if you need to restore the mbr
[11:50] <josh43> rexykik, That's about the worst thing I have ever heard
[11:50] <rexykik> josh43, ^.^
[11:50] <rexykik> hehehe
[11:50] <josh43> rexykik, lol
[11:50] <Oti1> josh43: I'd figured rexykik comment was weird
[11:50] <ispiked> is freetype on ubuntu compiled with the bytecode interpreter enabled?
[11:50] <Oti1> politely ignored him ;-)
[11:50] <eric_> sorry to bother could someone tell  me how to move a file into /root?
[11:50] <rexykik> :p
[11:50] <erUSUL> ailean, we all have been new to linux back in the day
[11:50] <rexykik> you could always change the router's MAC to the registered.
[11:50] <erUSUL> ailean, no shame in that ;)
[11:51] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, the 2 others have no problem getting the mbr back if needed
[11:51] <_jason> eric_:  sudo mv?
[11:51] <spencer> Hey uh how do I get my video card working properly if I have a Radeon 8500 series?
[11:51] <rexykik> ahh ok
[11:51] <Oti1> josh43: the thing that bothers me a bit is that this stuff "just works" with Windows and here I am busting my ass with this on Ubuntu
[11:51] <rexykik> thanks.
[11:51] <eric_> thanx
[11:51] <Oti1> and God knows I'm not trying to dis' Linux
[11:51] <rexykik> hehe Otil.
[11:51] <nekostar> Oti1, you pay for it in time but you gain in flexibiility
[11:51] <josh43> Otil; Yeah, Windows is broken in specific ways
[11:51] <nekostar> when you get a few things figured out you will be very pleased i would bet :)
[11:51] <nekostar> what is it that was wrong in the first place?
[11:51] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, so is that edubuntu working?
[11:51] <josh43> Oti1, Unfortunately, things like linksys routers take this into account, and are broken the exact same way.. out of spec, and linux is spec
[11:52] <nekostar> sorry i have been messing with my dual monitor configurations and out of irc :)
[11:52] <erUSUL> h0sl3r, define "working properly"
[11:52] <Oti1> josh43: I getcha
[11:52] <dooglus> where can I find a list of compatible hardware?
[11:52] <h0sl3r> erUSUL: getting DRI to work
[11:52] <josh43> Otil; PM if you need, but I'm away for about 20min, so you'll have to wait till then :)
[11:52] <ISOcrates> anyone know if you can get an airport extreme card to work on a powerbook running breezy?
[11:53] <oasiao> what plays m3's on ubuntu
[11:53] <oasiao> ?
[11:53] <oasiao> mp3's
[11:53] <ISOcrates> i know there's a SF project going on but i heard its possible
[11:53] <apokryphos> !players
[11:53] <ubotu> rumour has it, players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[11:53] <erUSUL> h0sl3r, which driver radeon or ati binary drivers??
[11:53] <oasiao> ah i see but not officially
[11:54] <apokryphos> oasiao: no, for legal reasons it can't ship with mp3 codecs.
[11:54] <erUSUL> !tll h0sl3r about ati
[11:54] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, erUSUL
[11:54] <erUSUL> !tell h0sl3r about ati
[11:54] <oasiao> i read about it somewhere a few days ago but i just installed linux yesterday apokryphos
[11:54] <freddy_> i have to stop touching myself w
[11:54] <nekostar> Oti1, i use the cloning feature on my linksys a lot
[11:54] <freddy_> err
[11:54] <freddy_> with this battery
[11:54] <windex> freddy_, ...
[11:54] <freddy_> that sounded weird
[11:54] <nekostar> so what is it that is broken, as that has never caused a conflict here
[11:54] <freddy_> with this BATTERY! i said
[11:54] <windex> <3 freddy_
[11:54] <nekostar> e v e h :P
[11:55] <freddy_> windex lol
[11:55] <ptlo> apokryphos, is there an explanation how can packages which contain these codecs be located in the ubuntu repositories on the server?  isn't that a legal issue too?
[11:55] <juanjo> I have 5.04 installed, and when I enter user and pass in the GDM, i get just a brown screen, and nothing appears. any clue what can i do or test?
[11:55] <apokryphos> ptlo: heh, braino. Mp3 codecs aren't in there because they're propietary -- not illegal; that's java/w32codecs.
[11:56] <rexykik> bluefrog-10, yep, it WAS working. Boss had me restore it from the partimage file to see how fast it would go, how well it works, etc. Basically just to test it. I've reloaded the image and the OS boots, but I've started DHCP and now it doesnt boot a terminal anymore :(
[11:56] <rexykik> on one interface it doesnt find the dhcp/bootp and connected to the other i get a cable failure.
[11:57] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, u sure dhcp has started?
[11:57] <rexykik> yeah i started it myself
[11:57] <rexykik> its all [ ok ] 
[11:57] <bluefrog-10> want to move to a channel?
[11:57] <rexykik> sure
[11:58] <_jan> hello ;)
[11:58] <CarlFK> oasiao - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:58] <bluefrog-10> rexykik, #edu
[11:58] <ptlo> apokryphos, ahh ... i understand your distinction between the two but am still puzzled how any of that can be on server (btw i believe that since mp3 is patented and every implementation is required to pay patent fee, the codecs are technically illegal also, but i'm not sure)
[11:59] <nekostar> ptlo, realplayer is legit
[11:59] <nekostar> they pay for liscensing or something
[11:59] <nekostar> :)
[11:59] <nekostar> .75 dollars a pop
[11:59] <ptlo> oh, i didn't know that. cool
[11:59] <nekostar> read the link
[11:59] <nekostar> lol
[11:59] <apokryphos> !restricted
[11:59] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[11:59] <ptlo> thanks
[11:59] <eric_> okay hopefully this is the last time tonight how do you rename in konsole
[11:59] <nekostar> yup that one ~_^
[11:59] <nekostar> eric_, rename a file?
[12:00] <eric_> yes