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| deang | is Zope2.8 possible on Edubuntu? I though I had opened up the `verses but I'm not seeing them in a Synaptic search for Zope. Only Zope3.. | 01:37 |
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| deang | I resolved my Zope issue by refreshing my sources. | 02:34 |
| deang | I have this re-accuring problem with the Backports: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3853 | 02:34 |
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| paolob | Hi guys! I've just installed edubuntu on my ltsp server, and I'm trying to boot a client. All is ok, with the nic, but when booting the client's linux, the client fails "calculating modules dependencies": it says: "FATAL: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/modules.dep.temp for writing: Read-only file system". Any idea? | 02:40 |
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| mhz | hey | 04:53 |
| mhz | arkan0x: tienes el mail de JCI? | 04:54 |
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| arkan0x | mhz, este parece ke usa | 04:56 |
| mhz | ok, thx | 04:56 |
| arkan0x | mhz, algun link de instalacion de moin ?? xD | 04:57 |
| mhz | sip | 04:57 |
| arkan0x | kiero instalar en el tarro este , pa acostumbrarme | 04:57 |
| mhz | arkan0x: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MauricioHernandez/HowToSurviveMigration#head-5cf877f6852ceb38e09d83fb81cb75bb9be72254 | 04:59 |
| mhz | http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnInstalling/BasicInstallation | 05:00 |
| mhz | http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnInstalling/WikiInstanceCreation | 05:00 |
| mhz | de todos modos recomiendo que antes ... apt-get install pythin-dev | 05:01 |
| mhz | de todos modos recomiendo que antes ... apt-get install python-dev | 05:01 |
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| juliux | morning | 09:38 |
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| highvoltage | JaneW: google for "incompetent idiot" :) | 11:00 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: do we normally have agendas for the wednesday meetings? | 11:33 |
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| paolob | Hi guys! I successfully installed edubuntu. When installing the first client, all is ok, the kernel boots, but when running system services, it fails when "calculating modules dependencies": "FATAL: could not | 01:30 |
| paolob | open /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/modules.dep.temp for writing: Read-only | 01:30 |
| paolob | file system". Any suggestion? thank you! | 01:30 |
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| bluefrog-10 | with what account do u log in? | 01:44 |
| bluefrog-10 | from the client? | 01:44 |
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| bluefrog-10 | paolob, still around? | 01:44 |
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| zakame | hi all | 02:07 |
| juliux | hi zakame | 02:10 |
| paolob | bluefrog-10, the client is logging in, no user account | 02:11 |
| paolob | bluefrog-10, the client uses etherboot | 02:13 |
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| zakame | wazup here? | 02:16 |
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| paolob | Hi guys! I keep having problems with edubuntu y a thin client. The client boots the kernel, fails starting some service (for example "calculating modules dependencies) because of a "Read-only file system", and when it presents the graphical login screen, it doesn't log in: Any user/password I put, it reiniciate gdm. Any hint? Thank you! | 02:52 |
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| jelkner | is there anyone here who could help with a python bug? | 02:59 |
| jelkner | my lesson today bombed because idle wouldn't start | 02:59 |
| jelkner | it is all my fault, i didn't test it first | 02:59 |
| jelkner | it works on my ubuntu systems, but on our edubuntu server, it won't start | 03:00 |
| jelkner | i just submitted a bug report: 18714 | 03:00 |
| jelkner | but i'm leaving for UBZ tomorrow and my students need to be able to work while i'm away | 03:00 |
| jelkner | help! | 03:01 |
| jelkner | here is the problem | 03:01 |
| jelkner | jelkner@edubuntu:~$ idle | 03:01 |
| jelkner | Traceback (most recent call last): | 03:01 |
| jelkner | File "/usr/bin/idle", line 5, in ? | 03:01 |
| jelkner | main() | 03:01 |
| jelkner | File "/usr/lib/python2.4/idlelib/PyShell.py", line 1350, in main | 03:01 |
| jelkner | root = Tk(className="Idle") | 03:01 |
| jelkner | File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1569, in __init__ | 03:01 |
| jelkner | self.tk = _tkinter.create(screenName, baseName, className, interactive, wantobjects, useTk, sync, use) | 03:01 |
| jelkner | _tkinter.TclError: this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black" | 03:01 |
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| jelkner | ogra: hi oliver | 03:04 |
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| jelkner | i've got a minor emergency | 03:04 |
| jelkner | do you have a minute? | 03:04 |
| ogra | morning | 03:05 |
| ogra | jelkner, after marks opening | 03:05 |
| jelkner | thanks | 03:05 |
| jelkner | don't want to interfere with that | 03:05 |
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| Yagisan | paolob: On the server try running ltsp-update-sshkeys the reboot the client and try again | 03:10 |
| zakame | late evening ogra :D | 03:17 |
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| Zaheer | afternoon everyone :) | 03:20 |
| Zaheer | right so i've finally installed a physical machine with edubuntu 5.10 hip hip | 03:20 |
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| Zaheer | although im having a few problems... 1. postgres, what is the default admin username and password to create more users and db? | 03:25 |
| Zaheer | 2. How do i install .debs (ubuntu files not debian) ? | 03:25 |
| Yagisan | Zaheer: 2. Use synaptic or aptitude on the server (synaptic is in a menu, you'd need to run aptitude from a terminal) | 03:29 |
| paolob | Yagisan, thank you! let me try! | 03:32 |
| paolob | Yagisan, now it does work! than you! | 03:33 |
| paolob | Yagisan, But what about the "Read-only file system" error? Aren't they perjudicial? | 03:34 |
| Zaheer | the last time i checked synaptic didnt have any facilities for openening single debs... i had to run dkpg -i [filename.deb] and even that didn't always work...i'll give it a try | 03:34 |
| jsgotangco | well maybe your deb has some dependencies | 03:41 |
| Zaheer | yes they did, and i had to install them in order of the deps.... 'twas loong night :D | 03:42 |
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| Yagisan | paolob: The Read Only warning isn't an error, don't worry about it, it's harmless. | 03:44 |
| paolob | Yagisan, ok, tnx! | 03:45 |
| jsgotangco | Zaheer: really is that really necessary, that's why aptitiude is there for you..unless you really have an application that is not in ubuntu (chaces are its there) | 03:45 |
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| Yagisan | Zaheer: what app are you installing ? | 03:45 |
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| Zaheer | nothing in particular i just DL mplayer, pgadmin and some other debs from ubuntu.packages.com i dont have Internet so i download during the day and take them home at night to install. | 03:48 |
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| Zaheer | does anyone know what the default user name and password for postgres is by any chance? | 03:50 |
| zakame | Zaheer: just a thought, but have you checked /usr/share/doc/postgresql ? | 03:52 |
| Zaheer | i've read through the "getting started" docs and it doesnt say anything about it over... | 03:53 |
| ealden | Zaheer: do a `sudo su postgres` and then `createuser foo` | 03:53 |
| Zaheer | tried it dont work | 03:54 |
| Zaheer | remember this was a standard edubuntu install that come with postgres.. | 03:54 |
| Zaheer | came. | 03:54 |
| ealden | hmm | 03:54 |
| Zaheer | i know the norm is user=postgres password= blank but it kept prompting when i entered nothing... seems it didnt like empty strings | 03:55 |
| zakame | have you tried password `blank' ? | 03:57 |
| Zaheer | literall? | 03:57 |
| zakame | yeah, worth a try... | 03:57 |
| Zaheer | when it prompts i hit 'enter' | 03:57 |
| Zaheer | and then it just prompts again. | 03:58 |
| Zaheer | im going to try to install pgadmin and see what happening baby my newness is whats holding me back... | 04:00 |
| Zaheer | thanks for the comments and suggestions will try them out tonight and give some feedback 2mrw :) | 04:02 |
| Zaheer | thanks guys/girls much appreciated! bye | 04:02 |
| ogra | Zaheer, you have to create the user in the master table ... "sudo su postgres pgsql" should get you in the postgres console | 04:02 |
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| jelkner | ogra: oliver, are you here now? | 04:51 |
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| highvoltage | JaneW, ogra: how's UBZ today? | 05:04 |
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| highvoltage | JaneW: wb | 05:53 |
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| gr8nash2 | hi all | 07:02 |
| gr8nash2 | hey im currently googling and cant seem to find the answer.. i thought i read somewhere on the site that edubutu had software to track grades.. but i cant seem to find any reference now | 07:03 |
| gr8nash2 | dont know if i imagined it or not | 07:03 |
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| highvoltage | edoo: slashdot | 07:25 |
| edoo | highvoltage: Slashdot - Updated 2005-10-31 18:08:00 | Unblock Google Cache in China | IBM ThinkPad X41 Tablet PC Reviewed | SBC CEO: Pay up if you want to use our pipes | mTLD to enforce Web standards in .mobi | 07:25 |
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| mhz | good (Chilean) evening! | 09:48 |
| mhz | ogra: busy? | 09:49 |
| mhz | hmm someone with tech background around? | 09:50 |
| crimsun | what sort of tech background? | 09:50 |
| mhz | hey crimsun | 09:50 |
| crimsun | hey mhz | 09:50 |
| mhz | I've been contacted by someone from ubuntu-es who is trying Edubuntu | 09:50 |
| mhz | he's had the following problems i can't explain why they happen: | 09:51 |
| mhz | after he successfully boots clients... | 09:51 |
| mhz | he gets: calculating modules dependencies | 09:51 |
| mhz | that is fine | 09:51 |
| mhz | but it takes so long until he gets: | 09:52 |
| mhz | fail | 09:52 |
| mhz | FATAL | 09:52 |
| mhz | could not | 09:52 |
| mhz | > open /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/modules.dep.temp for writing: Read-only | 09:52 |
| mhz | > file system | 09:52 |
| crimsun | does he have enough free space on / ? | 09:52 |
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| crimsun | also, if the machine doesn't freeze, he should have some info in /var/log/dmesg | 09:53 |
| mhz | hmm, ok. | 09:53 |
| crimsun | if it's not lack of free space, perhaps his HD or IDE controller are failing | 09:53 |
| mhz | crimsun: so you say he should check that there's room in / and read /var/log/dmesg | 09:54 |
| crimsun | yes | 09:54 |
| mhz | ok, thx | 09:54 |
| crimsun | if his HD is dying, he'll have lots of errors spewed toward the end of /var/log/dmesg | 09:54 |
| crimsun | np | 09:54 |
| mhz | interesting | 09:55 |
| mhz | he also gets "out of | 09:55 |
| mhz | > memory" from getty | 09:55 |
| mhz | crimsun: nothing to do, but have you used edubuntu with WindowMaker? | 09:56 |
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| === mhz waves magnon | ||
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| mhz | hehehe | 09:59 |
| mhz | break-dancing | 09:59 |
| crimsun | mhz: I haven't | 10:00 |
| mhz | crimsun: when you say 'enough /' How much would be ok? (and I truly guess you mean in the 'server' side) | 10:00 |
| crimsun | mhz: RE: memory error, which is beginning to sound more like hardware issues, has he run memtest86+ on the machine? | 10:01 |
| crimsun | mhz: at least 2 GB for / | 10:01 |
| mhz | crimsun: and how long have you been testing edubuntu and under which environments or layouts? (I need fedback from testers, much feedback) | 10:02 |
| mhz | crimsun: memory/ no idea, I'll ask | 10:02 |
| crimsun | mhz: I've only downloaded the iso, the hardware is tied up in bureaucracy atm | 10:02 |
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| mhz | .oO(usually, people do not provide as much info as possible when they have trouble and ask for help. Sorry) | 10:03 |
| mhz | crimsun: hehehe, ok | 10:03 |
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| mhz | strusberg: aloha! | 10:07 |
| crimsun | mhz: I'm offline for a bit, need to go teach class | 10:07 |
| mhz | may the patience be with you | 10:08 |
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| mhz | strusberg: any nwas about the congress? | 10:26 |
| neurogeek | mhz, Hello, Im currently working with Strusberg.. Nice to meet you | 10:28 |
| neurogeek | mhz, he is not right here, he is giving classes.. but he told me that you were talking about cuaima the other day | 10:29 |
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| luis__ | hey, all, sorry to ask what might be an obvious question, but are you all bundling a CMS with edubuntu? | 10:38 |
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| mhz | re | 10:44 |
| strusberg | mhz:Hi | 10:44 |
| mhz | alojamiento, strusberg | 10:44 |
| mhz | que significa la 'R' en tu nombre? | 10:45 |
| strusberg | mhz: Ricardo | 10:45 |
| mhz | oh | 10:45 |
| mhz | y tu segundo nombre, por casualidad, empieza con M? | 10:46 |
| strusberg | mhz: Nop | 10:46 |
| mhz | boooh | 10:46 |
| strusberg | mhz: Ufff RMS??? | 10:46 |
| mhz | for a moment I though of the coincidence if your initials were RMS :D | 10:46 |
| mhz | exactly | 10:46 |
| mhz | strusberg: BTW, my chilean initial are MHZ but my english ones should be MRH | 10:47 |
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| mhz | do you in Venezuela use latin method or english one? | 10:48 |
| strusberg | mhz: for what? | 10:49 |
| mhz | for initials | 10:49 |
| strusberg | mhz: Latin method. | 10:49 |
| mhz | ok | 10:49 |
| strusberg | mhz: neurogeek is a Cuaima Team member | 10:49 |
| strusberg | mhz: In fact, he is the tech leader for that project. | 10:50 |
| mhz | now, back to edubuntu business, strusberg are you currently testing edubuntu? If so, could you provide a brief summary of your experience with it and your comments, as long as stating the hw and network you've used it with? | 10:51 |
| mhz | strusberg: cuaima/ then if you seriously think we should include it or cnsider it for edubuntu, i'd suggest you send an email to the ML | 10:52 |
| neurogeek | mhz, hello again.. strusberg went teaching. He installed Edubuntu, but hasn't had the time to fully test it.. | 10:53 |
| mhz | neurogeek: nice to talk to you and welcome to the project :) | 10:54 |
| strusberg | mhz: I am going to teach a mailman course lab in this moment. I will send the e-mail to ML. | 10:54 |
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| mhz | strusberg: may the patience be with you | 10:54 |
| mhz | neurogeek: and have you tested it? | 10:54 |
| neurogeek | mhz, Well.. we are seriously considering contributing to Edubuntu with Cuaima | 10:54 |
| mhz | neurogeek: educool | 10:55 |
| mhz | IMHO it is a very interesting candidate | 10:55 |
| neurogeek | mhz, IMHO i think the debian-installer is way to old fashioned for a distro like Ubuntu | 10:55 |
| mhz | yes and no | 10:56 |
| neurogeek | mhz, no.. i haven't tried yet.. i will soon.. I've tried Ubuntu and Kubuntu though.. they are very good! | 10:56 |
| neurogeek | mhz, why?? | 10:56 |
| mhz | debian-installer may be very good for olde machine | 10:56 |
| mhz | older machines :) | 10:57 |
| neurogeek | mhz, yes, i agree | 10:57 |
| mhz | usually, all GUI's installers I have tried, they all take toooo long to do the job | 10:57 |
| mhz | IMHO, we should be able to provide 2 wasy | 10:57 |
| mhz | ways | 10:57 |
| mhz | a) light installer (usually command line or similar) | 10:58 |
| mhz | b) gui | 10:58 |
| neurogeek | but ive seen too many machines that get stuck with d-i.. its a shame | 10:58 |
| mhz | oh, yes | 10:58 |
| neurogeek | mhz, i strongly agree with you | 10:58 |
| mhz | heheh | 10:58 |
| mhz | we 2 agree on same point | 10:58 |
| mhz | s | 10:58 |
| mhz | debian-installer may not be the best | 10:59 |
| mhz | so we should provide a very light and fast installer | 10:59 |
| mhz | however, I doubt we could change d-i so far | 10:59 |
| mhz | but I see no problem (can't imagine which) having a second option | 10:59 |
| mhz | like cuaima | 10:59 |
| neurogeek | mhz, yes.. and we are willingly developing Cuaima to fit those needs.. | 11:00 |
| mhz | neurogeek: so, you should definately talk to ogra (oliver) | 11:00 |
| mhz | and propose your views on the edubuntu ml | 11:00 |
| neurogeek | and yes.. ive been asking around ubuntu channels and odds are not to good for changing d-i any time soon | 11:01 |
| mhz | exactly | 11:01 |
| mhz | however, | 11:01 |
| neurogeek | mhz, I will.. | 11:01 |
| mhz | from my humble edubuntu POV, I would suggest this idea for near future: | 11:01 |
| mhz | a) we have a base installation (edubuntu stuff) | 11:02 |
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| mhz | b) we have already prepackaged set of tools and apps. for each subject (science, math, language, etc) | 11:02 |
| mhz | so teachers or institutions use what they need | 11:03 |
| mhz | so during install time, you can choose to add a whole set of tools | 11:03 |
| luis__ | enyc: take pictures! | 11:04 |
| neurogeek | thats the way it should be.. we can easily adapt cuaima to do that | 11:04 |
| enyc | luis__: hmm no camera etc. error | 11:04 |
| luis__ | doh. | 11:04 |
| luis__ | steal one! ;) | 11:04 |
| enyc | lol they've only had it a week! | 11:04 |
| luis__ | see, you have to take the pictures now, before they change their minds ;) | 11:05 |
| neurogeek | a question.. Edubuntu gets always installed the same way.. right?? same packages everytime? | 11:05 |
| enyc | and im out nearby soldering/heatshrinking a phone cable lol | 11:05 |
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| mhz | neurogeek: yes and no :) | 11:17 |
| mhz | edubuntu is ubuntu + edu app.s | 11:18 |
| neurogeek | :) how is that?? | 11:18 |
| neurogeek | Ok | 11:18 |
| mhz | so, you can always choose diff options at install time | 11:18 |
| mhz | however, if you want LTSP | 11:19 |
| neurogeek | Ok.. but is currently like that?? | 11:19 |
| mhz | yes, you have to press enter for default way | 11:19 |
| mhz | yes | 11:19 |
| mhz | and actually, you can install edubuntu from any U/K/X/buntu previously installed | 11:20 |
| mhz | just apt-get install edubuntu-server edubuntu-desktop and that's it | 11:20 |
| mhz | and remember to edit /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf INSTEAD of /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf | 11:21 |
| neurogeek | Ah! ok.. | 11:24 |
| neurogeek | mhz, Well.. very nice meeting you.. we'll be in touch and I will take into account all you have said.. thanks! | 11:24 |
| neurogeek | mhz, now.. i have to go, but we'll talk later | 11:25 |
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