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Tm_Thmh, seems like kdevelop is quite broken01:19
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lexhiderRiddell: are you there?02:43
Riddelllexhider: hi02:43
lexhidercan I make a small suggestion regarding kubuntu-desktop packaging02:43
Riddelllexhider: of course02:45
lexhiderthe suggestion is to handle kaffeine dependency like ubuntu-desktop handles totem. instead of depending on totem-gstreamer, ubuntu-desktop depends on totem which depend on "totem-gstreamer | totem-xine". This means if you remove totem-gstreamer and install totem-xine, aptitude doesn't complain about ubuntu-desktop having broken dependencies.02:46
lexhiderSo if I try to remove kaffeine-gstreamer and install kaffeine-xine, it breaks dependencies for kubuntu-desktop02:47
Riddellhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/default-package-groups  should help that problem in general02:51
RiddellI think totem is packaged so that totem-gstramer and totem-xine are both complete totem packages02:52
Riddellwhereas kaffeine-xine only contains the xine plugin02:52
RiddellI guess we could change that02:52
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LathiatRiddell: yeh thats correct02:56
Lathiati think its more totem is compiled with xine02:56
Lathiatand kaffeine has plugins02:56
Lathiatkaffeine still crashes far too much tho :(02:57
Lathiati wonder if the new amarok is any better02:58
Lathiatmine dies every few hours02:58
lexhiderRiddell: oh, just realized that kaffeine-xine & kaffeine-gstreamer are installable side by side.03:01
Lathiatlexhider: right, you have to goto configure and choose the plugin03:03
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_Tonio_hi09:56
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jpatricksomeone working on the lastest smb4k?11:22
_Tonio_jpatrick: when was the tarball released ?11:24
_Tonio_I can add it to my toonight todo list ;)11:24
jpatrick_Tonio_: I'm working on it :P11:24
_Tonio_ah okay ;)11:26
_Tonio_that's a good news, because I have so many packages to do ......11:27
_Tonio_anyway, jpatrick are you able to build packages with a dapper pbuilder ?11:27
_Tonio_none of them are working for me.....11:27
jpatrick...11:28
_Tonio_kdelibs4-dev dependancies issue...11:31
_Tonio_never saw this ?11:31
jpatrickno11:32
_Tonio_this is a known problem, but I'd like to know if that fails on any packages or only a few....11:32
_Tonio_jpatrick: okay thanks...11:32
_Tonio_I'll test on other packages11:32
jpatrickI think I've got the debian/* files right...11:36
_Tonio_jpatrick: in the dependancies, do you use kdelibs-dev, or kdelibs4-dev ?11:37
_Tonio_I think my problem comes from here11:37
_Tonio_impossible to get kdelibs4-dev installed.....11:37
jpatrickI'm a new packager...11:38
jpatrickI have kdelibs4-dev installed11:39
_Tonio_okay11:39
_Tonio_on breezy, but on dapper ? are you using pbuilder ?11:39
_Tonio_I have no pb building on breezy ;)11:39
jpatrickDapper11:39
_Tonio_the problem is in pbuilder only11:39
_Tonio_sounds amazing....11:39
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_Tonio_here's what I get :11:40
_Tonio_jpatrick: yes but anyway, whereas you start or are a veteran, the fact is that you have installed kdelibs4-dev ;)11:40
_Tonio_I get that :11:40
_Tonio_The following packages have unmet dependencies:11:40
_Tonio_  kdelibs4-dev: Depends: libssl-dev but it is not going to be installed11:40
_Tonio_E: Broken packages11:41
_Tonio_E: Could not satisfy build-dependency.11:41
jpatrickodd11:41
jpatrickMaybe it's cos I have KDE 3.5 B211:41
_Tonio_jpatrick: so you are not using pbuilder ?11:42
jpatricknot yet11:42
_Tonio_that's the reason :)11:42
_Tonio_anyway, because you told me you where new packager, did you use uupdate to build smb4k ?11:42
jpatrickno11:42
_Tonio_it is recommended when updating an already existing package...11:42
_Tonio_it is clean and helps you earnin time11:43
jpatrickOkay I'll look for something on it11:43
_Tonio_what you should do is simply download the actual sources with apt-get source smb4k11:43
_Tonio_download the new tarball11:43
_Tonio_and check on google the way to create the new source package using uupdate ;)11:43
jpatrick apt-get source smb4k...11:45
jpatricknow I have a .dsc, .diff.gz and a tarball11:47
jpatrickand a folder11:48
_Tonio_yes11:55
jpatrickI found something on it11:55
_Tonio_so now place the new tarball in the same folder than the .dsc file11:55
_Tonio_.tar.gz format in case it is a .tar.bz211:56
jpatrickuupdate: command not found11:56
_Tonio_install it ;)11:56
_Tonio_then go in the smk4k folder and launch a "uupdate -u nameofthenewtarball.tar.gz"11:56
jpatrickE: Couldn't find package uupdate11:56
_Tonio_that should do the work11:56
_Tonio_jpatrick: apt-file search uupdate11:56
_Tonio_jpatrick: sudo apt-get install devscripts11:57
jpatrickprefect11:57
jpatrick_Tonio_: I think it worked..12:02
seaLne_Tonio_: what is the difference between uupdate and zcat foo.diff|patch -p1 ?12:02
jpatrickI have a new smb4k-0.6.4 dir12:02
_Tonio_dunno, I always use uupdate ;)12:02
jpatrickyep it worked12:02
_Tonio_yes, you just have to modify the files a bit12:02
jpatrickI have to change the Maintainer name to me?12:04
seaLne_Tonio_: ah it looks like you don't have to extract the new tarball but apart from that dose exactly the same thing12:04
jpatrickPS smb4k (0.6.4-1ubuntu1) breezy; urgency=low - should that be dapper?12:05
_Tonio_seaLne: okay, maybe the uupdate script uses zcat12:06
_Tonio_it is only a script so it may use other tools12:06
seaLneah seems to do a bit more12:06
_Tonio_i never looked, i just know that works great, and helps earning time :)12:06
_Tonio_doesn't it test the patches to see if they are still applyable, or something like like ?12:07
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mornfallRiddell: ping12:31
mornfallRiddell: (i updated the feature plan on web.ekhis.org/adept.html)12:31
mornfallanyone else with comments is welcome to state them :)12:35
mornfalloh, and also, what's up with FindingPackages?12:39
mornfallit's sort of, uh-oh...12:39
amumornfall: people complain about adapt, that i removed and replaced it it synaptic, sorry about that  12:41
mornfallhmm?12:42
mornfalli am not sure what you mean12:43
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amupeople complained, that this adapt isnt useable :) 12:44
mornfallwhich people12:44
mornfallwhere12:44
amu#kubuntu-de12:44
amukubuntu forum .... 12:44
jpatrick_Tonio_: done12:45
amumy working friends 12:45
_Tonio_mornfall: may I suggest something for the next version of adept ?12:45
mornfallyes?12:45
jpatrickthe main Kubuntu Forums has some good remarks about Adept12:45
_Tonio_I think that a proxy configuration wizzard would be nice12:45
_Tonio_synaptic has that function, and that can be pretty usefull12:46
_Tonio_even if not a wizzard, simply in adept's options...12:47
mornfallon software support, all i found so far is complaints about kdesu breakage12:48
mornfall_Tonio_: i'd say using kde proxy settings should do?12:49
_Tonio_hum.... didn't test12:49
_Tonio_mornfall: you mean konq proxy ?12:49
mornfall_Tonio_: it doesn't do that atm... it only picks up envvars so far12:50
_Tonio_mornfall: there is a possibility to configa proxy in apt.conf.... but maybe there is another possibility, I don't know12:50
mornfall_Tonio_: but as a feature, i'd say using konq proxy should do12:50
mornfalli'll think about it12:50
_Tonio_okay12:50
mornfallmaybe you could make a bugs.kde.org entry for me so i don't forget? :)12:50
_Tonio_no problem, I'll do toonight12:51
_Tonio_also, would you like new icons for version 2.0 or are you fine with those ones ?12:51
mornfall_Tonio_: if someone makes better, why not12:52
mornfall_Tonio_: noone did so far though12:52
mornfall"adept is growing on me" -- how am i supposed to parse that?12:52
_Tonio_I did the actual ones, so maybe I try to improve them a bit12:52
mornfallah, you mean the application icons12:53
_Tonio_the crystal effect is not perfect...12:53
mornfallyeah, why not12:53
_Tonio_mornfall: yep12:53
mornfalli was thinking action icons here :)12:53
_Tonio_ah okay ;)12:53
_Tonio_also, I'd be interessted in he french translation when the gmo file is available...12:54
mornfallyes, i18n is planned for 2.012:54
_Tonio_will it go in launchpad or simply kde i18n for translation ?12:55
mornfallno idea, i guess kde i18n12:55
mornfallwe'll see12:55
_Tonio_okay, I'll check around12:55
mornfallcan someone point me at the adept remarks on kubuntu forums?12:56
mornfalli can't seem to find them12:56
jpatrickwhich one?12:58
mornfall[12:49:42]  < jpatrick> the main Kubuntu Forums has some good remarks about Adept01:00
mornfallurl would probably help :-)01:01
jpatrickthey're a whole bunch of Adept threads :)01:01
mornfallyeah, but nothing too useful01:01
apokryphosa few random thoughts on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84126  too01:01
mornfallthere are some full/safe upgrade questions -- which will be solved once the manual is done, mostly01:01
mornfalland one keep question, same solution01:02
jpatrickAdept should say what extra packages it will install...01:03
apokryphossome thoughts myself: most of my beef is with the general UI, really; I find it really problematic; but I see that's going to be worked on, which sounds really promising :). Anything else just seems to be ways in which it's lacking slightly in comparison to synaptic01:03
mornfallapokryphos: you don't like the split, right?01:04
apokryphosthat's one thing, yes01:04
mornfalljpatrick: there's a huge "preview changes" button *sigh*01:04
mornfallapokryphos: and you suggest what instead?01:04
mornfall(i forgot)01:04
jpatrickmornfall: Kynaptic pops up a box01:05
mornfallpopups are sort of obnoxious01:05
mornfallbut well, i guess showing a preview by default and having an option to disable that will have to do01:06
apokryphosothers: managed repositories embedded seems odd, I think there should be the traditional kde Settings -> Configure Adept01:06
apokryphospersonally I think it looks really bad to have *all* the search options right there. And it looks messy if you minimise it a bit. The average end-user (over 95% of them) are just looking for a package keword01:06
apokryphosan advanced search should be an extra option01:07
mornfallas for 11) from the above post, that's a no-go01:07
apokryphos(note I still think there should be a simple dynamic search available)01:07
mornfalldynamic search meaning?01:07
amumornfall: i'll collect the users feedback and forward it to you01:07
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mornfallamu: thanks01:08
apokryphosminor thing: "Reset Filter" should be replaced by that button things like Konq etc. use, no?01:11
apokryphos(in Konqueror, next to "Location" URL toolbar)01:11
mornfallapokryphos: and how would that exactly mesh with checkboxes?01:11
mornfallor comboboxes01:11
apokryphosmesh? I don't think it would be a problem, would it?01:12
mornfalltry to imagine how it will look... it'll be pretty hard to figure what it is supposed to do01:12
apokryphosI don't see why; seems fairly standard in kde01:13
mornfallyeah, in front of a lineedit01:13
mornfalli have never ever seen it anywhere else01:13
mornfallnow think of:01:14
mornfallx> <label> <combo>   <label> <combo>01:14
mornfall   <label> <combo>   <label> <combo>01:14
mornfallwhat does that do?01:14
mornfall(the x> there)01:14
apokryphosit's in many other places; other one that comes to mind is khelpcenter01:15
apokryphosnot a programmer, so I don't see any problem01:15
apokryphosthough that could perhaps be another pro for the top/down design :P01:16
mornfallfrom user point of view01:16
apokryphoss/pro/con/01:16
mornfallwhat top/down design?01:16
mornfalltop/down design is a methodology for designing systems :)01:16
apokryphosfrom the user point of view I see absolutely no problem with taking away "Reset Filter" and replacing with the x> and putting it to the right of the text-box01:16
apokryphosif I was making a html page, that's how I'd do it01:16
mornfallhmm, no01:16
mornfalldamn :)01:16
mornfallright of the text-box?01:17
apokryphoswhoops, left, I mean01:17
mornfallit sort of looks like it will remove the filter then :)01:17
apokryphosnot at all; I think it's reasonably clear what removes the filter there01:17
mornfallit would confuse *me*01:18
apokryphosbecause (i) the title encompassesx that whole area; (ii) the whole area has light blue; (iii) dark blue showing the whole thing that the combobox would take out01:18
mornfallwell, if i wouldn't know beforehand, that is :)01:18
mornfalli will think about it... but, but... i'm still unconvinced01:19
mornfallwhat's wrong with reset filter?01:19
apokryphosthe x> should only take the size of the given text-box01:19
apokryphosso I think it would be hard to presuppose that it would collapse that whole section01:19
apokryphosit looks tacky :D. I get the same feeling when people overdo html buttons01:20
apokryphosanother issue I just thought of: in Manage Repositories, why the big buttons?01:20
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apokryphosgoes against general other kde-ness01:20
pefhello01:20
apokryphoswow, maybe I could be the champion knight of kde. 8)01:20
apokryphos(just seems to me that most buttons in kde things tend to not span the whole of the bottom)01:21
mornfallyeah, that's true01:21
mornfalli was sort of time-constrained making that repository manager :)01:22
apokryphosmornfall: should note that with the whole x> I was referring to the "Quick Filter" only01:22
mornfallapokryphos: that would make it inconsistent!01:22
apokryphosjust realised that the others have "Reset Filter" buttons, where it wouldn't be as appropriate to have the x>01:22
apokryphosYup; is a problem01:22
mornfallthat's what i was arguing about all the time01:22
mornfallbah :P01:23
apokryphos=)01:23
mornfallso now give me a solution =)01:23
apokryphosI think it's nearly as bad having three buttons doing the same thing, though01:23
apokryphos(I know this is only when they're all expanded, but nevertheless)01:23
apokryphosok...... they don't entirely; since they apply to their respective selection01:24
mornfallooh01:25
mornfallcontext menu? :-)01:25
apokryphosmornfall: how was it handled in the alpha?01:25
mornfallapokryphos: alpha was a small usability nightmare compared to beta =)01:25
apokryphosI know; just wondering how that part happened exactly; I recall it being right main, with left options01:26
mornfallapokryphos: it only had 2 filters, one was the traditional quick filter on top (no clear at all) and on left, there was a checkboxy filter with apply/reset buttons01:26
mornfallpeople thought apply/reset was related to actions not to the filter01:27
apokryphosif you just had a quick dynamic filter with x>, then there'd be no need for an apply and the reset button, methinks01:27
apokryphos(in which case you'd have extended search options from a menu)01:28
apokryphoskind of thinking amaroK-style01:28
apokryphos(just an example of the usage, that is)01:29
mornfallthat wouldn't fly01:30
mornfalli am still thinking about a palette of filters on left-hand side01:31
apokryphoswhy wouldn't it fly?01:32
mornfallbecause using filters from menu would be awkward enough to make them useless01:32
mornfalli guess it could work with only quick filter being active by default... but... many people aren't going to find those other 2 default filters then01:34
mornfallyou -need- a list of active filters anyway01:34
mornfallbecause otherwise you can't AND filters in any sane manner01:34
apokryphosyeah, I agree that some main filters shouldn't be in the menu; just thought of extra search options being in menus01:34
mornfalland without filter-and, the whole concept of filtering the package set down to what you look for is sort of useless01:35
apokryphosbut awkward, since they of course overlap01:35
mornfallsay you look for a new package... you can check only not installed packages right away01:35
apokryphosyup01:36
mornfalland then probably using the easy tag filter to cut it down to what you look for01:36
mornfallpossibly using quick filter if you have some useful keyword01:36
apokryphosnot saying it's necessarily a good idea, but have you given tree-view of packages a thought?01:36
mornfallso one of the most common use-cases involve all 3 of the filters already in an quite useful configuration01:36
apokryphoskpackage uses this to some extent01:36
mornfallyes, and i am not doing it01:37
apokryphosusability for a package-manager is certainly not easy =)01:37
mornfallthe main problem with treeview is, that with few weeks of tweaking the tree, you can get some 1000 items into it, and hope that some reasonable number of users will find something in it01:38
mornfalland debian has 15x more packages than that anyway01:39
mornfall(and 1000 is quite pushing it anyway)01:39
mornfallkubuntu with universe is probably in the same league01:39
mornfallso, the bottom line: trees don't scale01:40
apokryphosright, I see01:40
mornfallsee the usability problems with kcontrol and it's *tiny* tree01:40
mornfallnow multiply that 300 times01:40
apokryphos8)01:41
mornfallmaking the filters go faster would be useful though01:42
mornfallthey are dog-slow right now01:42
apokryphoswhich ones? Played with it for a bit and they seemed generally ok01:42
apokryphosbut my system is pretty pacey01:42
mornfallwell, on a slower system with debian repo (15k packages), it gets laggy01:43
mornfallfor my taste, at least01:43
apokryphosnice to have adept-updater to point people to -- a lot of x-ubuntugnome users seem to love it. Just needs that tray icon :P01:43
mornfallon todo01:44
apokryphos17k here and it happens almost instantly; again, haven't tried on a lower-end system01:44
apokryphosyup, I saw01:44
mornfallwhat's your setup like?01:44
apokryphosamd64 3400+01:44
mornfallit is pretty fast on a 3GHz P4, i observed :)01:44
mornfallah, yeah01:44
mornfallon 1.1GHz celeron, it's not so good, and i'd guess 500MHz machine will suffer quite a bit more01:45
apokryphosindeed01:45
mornfallbut this is something i nearly don't hear complaints about :)01:45
mornfallwhich is interesting01:45
mornfallmaybe everyone is either patient or running a high-end box01:45
apokryphossome people are used to typing something, hitting search, then waiting01:46
apokryphosso the thought of a dynamic search is still better 8)01:46
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mornfalli need to get some food01:50
apokryphosenjoy01:51
mornfallhmm, sux, no bread01:52
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mornfalli'm of course too lazy to go buy some :P01:52
apokryphosI tend to starve myself from laziness at times too :/01:52
apokryphosfortunately there's a 24-hour tesco just down the road; great for when the munchies come laaate01:53
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mornfalli even have cheese01:55
mornfalljust no bread01:55
mornfallbleh :P01:55
mornfallfried egg with cheese and vinegar'd gherkins was good =)02:13
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apokryphosRiddell: admin mode bug fixed.. I almost don't believe it :P. Was the worst gremlin ever 8)02:49
Lathiatapokryphos: haha, what was it?02:49
Lathiatand then really needs to go into updates ;)02:49
apokryphosLathiat: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868102:49
Lathiatapokryphos: also the system settings window sucks if your DPI goes up02:50
Lathiatallow me to send you a SS02:50
apokryphossystemsettings has a few lil' things like that, yeah02:50
Lathiathttp://bur.st/~lathiat/ss.png02:52
apokryphosLathiat: it just cuts off like that?02:52
apokryphosNoticed that happened a few times (but not as extreme as that) when Composite was enabled02:52
apokryphosexpanding the window would display things properly, but still -- dodgy.02:52
Lathiatcutting off?02:53
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Lathiatjust the icon font stuff gets messed up02:53
Lathiati didnt notice it was being cut off02:53
Lathiattheres more stuff?02:53
apokryphosyeah02:54
apokryphosoh, icons, ok, I see02:54
Lathiatalso i think i filed a bug02:54
Lathiati cant remember02:54
Lathiatwhen you exit some components02:54
Lathiatthey are reloaded in the background02:54
Lathiatyou notice on ones that popup a dialog, like the network one02:54
Lathiatand you can't re-enter them02:54
Lathiathappens if you have un-saved changes, and the dialog pops up02:54
Lathiatand you hit apply02:54
apokryphosworth reporting if you didn't already, yeah02:55
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RiddellI just confirmation from someone in KDE that it's sane before I put admin mode fix into updates03:17
jpatrickRiddell: I have the lastest smb4k packaged for Breezy/Dapper.03:22
Riddelljpatrick: excellent03:23
Riddelljpatrick: do you have an account on revu?03:24
jpatrickJust need somewhere to put the files03:24
jpatrickRiddell: no03:24
Riddelljpatrick: /join #ubuntu-motu and poke siretat03:24
jpatrickRiddell: I need my key signed03:25
jpatrickKnow anyone that lives near Girona, Spain?03:25
jpatrickthat's what the REVU page says on the wiki03:28
_Tonio_Riddell: I think the key signed isn't required to upload (I can upload and my key isn't signed)03:28
_Tonio_but it is required that the key is exported to a public keyserver03:28
jpatrick_Tonio_: My key's on the Ubuntu keysever03:28
_Tonio_so you have to send an email to siretart giving him the key id, and ideally the server where it is stored03:29
_Tonio_then it might wok03:29
_Tonio_when you will want to become a motu, then only the key signing wil be a requirement03:29
jpatrick'gpg --keysever keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys F4944AEE'03:30
Riddelljpatrick: if you're up for packaging moodinis needing done03:30
jpatrickthe moodin engine?03:30
Riddellyes03:30
jpatrickRiddell: links on kde-look are broken03:31
_Tonio_Riddell: I didn't upload yesterday because the libssl-dev isn't resolved...03:31
_Tonio_Riddell: I will prompt you when the uploads will be done, in case you might want to revu some of the packages03:31
jpatrickwhat should I say to siretat?03:31
Riddelljpatrick: say please give mean account 03:32
Tm_Tmean account :o03:32
Riddellme an 03:32
Tm_T;)03:32
Riddellit's lagy here today, too many geeks using this bandwidth 03:32
Tm_Theh03:33
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jpatrickhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=25705 :- those links are so dead03:34
jpatrickOr is it my net?03:35
Tm_Tit's me03:36
jpatricksomeone doing the new kdissert?03:36
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Riddelljpatrick: don't think so, checkd ebian and revu03:38
jpatrickand it got app of the month03:39
RiddellI know, I run app of the month :)03:39
RiddellI'm a genius http://kubuntu.org/~jr/tmp/ksplash-engine-moodin_0.4.2.tar.gz03:40
jpatrickwoohoo03:41
jpatricknow03:44
jpatrickhow does revu work..03:45
Riddelljpatrick: https://nm.debian.org/gpg_offer.php03:46
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jpatrickpeople there a miles from me03:47
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jpatrickRiddell: package made04:15
jpatrickbrb04:16
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jpat|awayRiddell: so how do I upload?04:23
Riddelljpat|away: do you have an account on revu?04:23
jpat|awayRiddell: I think04:24
jpat|awayI got accepted04:24
Riddelldebuild -S -sa   and make sure it's signed with the key on revu04:24
Riddellapt-get install dput04:24
Riddelldput revu  foo.changes04:24
Riddellyou probably need to add revu to /etc/dput.conf04:24
Riddellsee REVU on wiki04:25
jpat|awayokay04:26
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jpat|awayadded the things04:32
jpat|awaynot sure how to move the *.debs etc04:33
Riddelldon't04:33
Riddellsource uploads only are best04:33
jpat|awayeverything but the .deb?04:34
Riddellyes04:34
Riddelldebuild -S -sa will put the right stuff in the .chnges file04:34
jpat|awayI already have the .changes files04:37
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Riddelljpat|away: and have you uploaded?04:40
jpat|awayRiddell: it's uploading04:41
jpat|awayoh dear: Uploading via ftp ksplash-engine-moodin_0.4.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb04:41
jpat|awayRiddell: Successfully uploaded packages.04:42
Riddellah well, no problem04:42
jpat|awaythat was moodin04:42
jpat|awaynow for smb4k04:42
jpat|away:D04:42
jpat|away...uploading...04:43
jpat|awaydone.04:43
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Riddellhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=842  rocking04:58
jpat|away:)04:59
jpat|awaywhere's the other one..04:59
jpatrickhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=84305:01
jpatrick'Already in debian/unstable... sync requested'05:01
jpatrickah well05:02
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\shRiddell: ping05:24
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mornfallRiddell times out today05:43
Riddellmornfall: hmm?05:45
mornfalloh05:45
mornfallRiddell: i was pinging you about the feature plan today :)05:45
mornfalland i seem to be unable to catch mvo online05:46
Riddellhmm, I don't see mvo about05:51
mornfallbtw, mvo will be pleased to know that we are nearing a working and useful pyhton binding for libapt-front05:55
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Tm_Terr, some thing is bothering me in katapult07:28
Tm_TI can't choose between app and similar named dir?07:28
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_Tonio_Tm_T: I had the same question07:38
Tm_Tannoying07:38
_Tonio_impossible to launch firefox for example, you are prompted for firefox central if you don't clean the bookmarks.....07:38
_Tonio_yep07:38
_Tonio_totally agree07:38
Riddellmornfall: where is the adept stuff you were tlaking about?07:38
mornfallRiddell: web.ekhis.org/adept.html07:39
_Tonio_you should be able to change betwwen different possibilities with tab for example07:39
mornfallRiddell: the updated feature list07:39
mornfallRiddell: was soliciting comments around07:39
Tm_T_Tonio_: or something07:39
mornfallRiddell: if you have some idea, i want to hear it =)07:39
_Tonio_Tm_T: or something of course ;)07:39
Tm_T_Tonio_: and priority would be lovely07:39
Riddell"Adept 2.0 Feature Plan"?07:39
mornfallyes07:39
mornfallthat'd be it07:40
_Tonio_Tm_T: for example binaries prior to bookmarks ? yes, that's a nice idea :)07:40
Riddellmornfall: there's no recent changes to that right?07:41
_Tonio_mornfall: I posted a wich conerning the possibility to export and import the system state, like synaptic does...07:42
_Tonio_mornfall: is that in your plans actually ?07:42
mornfallRiddell: there are, i changed that yesterday07:42
Riddellmornfall: got a diff? :)07:43
Riddell"some sort of version/release policy (pinning)" aah, we were just talking about that07:44
mornfallRiddell: no diffs sorry, but roughly added: single deb install, ... oh wait, you have a previous snapshot of that list on wiki.ubuntu.com?07:56
mornfallRiddell: added: simplified installation interface ala gnome-app-install, individual .deb installation (wizard?), bumped konsole hiding before advanced problem resolution algorithm07:57
mornfallthat could be it07:57
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mornfallyes, seems like it07:59
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Riddellhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPackageManager208:29
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MezRoadmapping... across the universe ... (and main)08:37
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pefsomeone is using kcheckgmail ?09:13
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