[01:19] hmh, seems like kdevelop is quite broken === Mez [i=Mez@66.103.220.208] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=apokryph@70.85.216.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lexhider [n=lexhider@ppp86-30.lns2.mel3.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:43] Riddell: are you there? [02:43] lexhider: hi [02:43] can I make a small suggestion regarding kubuntu-desktop packaging [02:45] lexhider: of course [02:46] the suggestion is to handle kaffeine dependency like ubuntu-desktop handles totem. instead of depending on totem-gstreamer, ubuntu-desktop depends on totem which depend on "totem-gstreamer | totem-xine". This means if you remove totem-gstreamer and install totem-xine, aptitude doesn't complain about ubuntu-desktop having broken dependencies. [02:47] So if I try to remove kaffeine-gstreamer and install kaffeine-xine, it breaks dependencies for kubuntu-desktop [02:51] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/default-package-groups should help that problem in general [02:52] I think totem is packaged so that totem-gstramer and totem-xine are both complete totem packages [02:52] whereas kaffeine-xine only contains the xine plugin [02:52] I guess we could change that === hunger [n=hunger@p54A60B78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:56] Riddell: yeh thats correct [02:56] i think its more totem is compiled with xine [02:56] and kaffeine has plugins [02:57] kaffeine still crashes far too much tho :( [02:58] i wonder if the new amarok is any better [02:58] mine dies every few hours [03:01] Riddell: oh, just realized that kaffeine-xine & kaffeine-gstreamer are installable side by side. [03:03] lexhider: right, you have to goto configure and choose the plugin === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.220] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.220] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.220] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _phil [n=phil@206.255.0.149] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _phil [n=phil@206.255.0.149] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-6.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@ip101109.101.nas.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A6056A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F6D37.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A6088F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:56] <_Tonio_> hi === jpatrick [n=patrick@73.Red-83-45-211.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === CaiN_SA [n=cain@66.103.220.201] has joined #kubuntu-devel === olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-156-88-144.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:22] someone working on the lastest smb4k? [11:24] <_Tonio_> jpatrick: when was the tarball released ? [11:24] <_Tonio_> I can add it to my toonight todo list ;) [11:24] _Tonio_: I'm working on it :P [11:26] <_Tonio_> ah okay ;) [11:27] <_Tonio_> that's a good news, because I have so many packages to do ...... [11:27] <_Tonio_> anyway, jpatrick are you able to build packages with a dapper pbuilder ? [11:27] <_Tonio_> none of them are working for me..... [11:28] ... [11:31] <_Tonio_> kdelibs4-dev dependancies issue... [11:31] <_Tonio_> never saw this ? [11:32] no [11:32] <_Tonio_> this is a known problem, but I'd like to know if that fails on any packages or only a few.... [11:32] <_Tonio_> jpatrick: okay thanks... [11:32] <_Tonio_> I'll test on other packages [11:36] I think I've got the debian/* files right... [11:37] <_Tonio_> jpatrick: in the dependancies, do you use kdelibs-dev, or kdelibs4-dev ? [11:37] <_Tonio_> I think my problem comes from here [11:37] <_Tonio_> impossible to get kdelibs4-dev installed..... [11:38] I'm a new packager... [11:39] I have kdelibs4-dev installed [11:39] <_Tonio_> okay [11:39] <_Tonio_> on breezy, but on dapper ? are you using pbuilder ? [11:39] <_Tonio_> I have no pb building on breezy ;) [11:39] Dapper [11:39] <_Tonio_> the problem is in pbuilder only [11:39] <_Tonio_> sounds amazing.... === jpatrick starts building package [11:40] <_Tonio_> here's what I get : [11:40] <_Tonio_> jpatrick: yes but anyway, whereas you start or are a veteran, the fact is that you have installed kdelibs4-dev ;) [11:40] <_Tonio_> I get that : [11:40] <_Tonio_> The following packages have unmet dependencies: [11:40] <_Tonio_> kdelibs4-dev: Depends: libssl-dev but it is not going to be installed [11:41] <_Tonio_> E: Broken packages [11:41] <_Tonio_> E: Could not satisfy build-dependency. [11:41] odd [11:41] Maybe it's cos I have KDE 3.5 B2 [11:42] <_Tonio_> jpatrick: so you are not using pbuilder ? [11:42] not yet [11:42] <_Tonio_> that's the reason :) [11:42] <_Tonio_> anyway, because you told me you where new packager, did you use uupdate to build smb4k ? [11:42] no [11:42] <_Tonio_> it is recommended when updating an already existing package... [11:43] <_Tonio_> it is clean and helps you earnin time [11:43] Okay I'll look for something on it [11:43] <_Tonio_> what you should do is simply download the actual sources with apt-get source smb4k [11:43] <_Tonio_> download the new tarball [11:43] <_Tonio_> and check on google the way to create the new source package using uupdate ;) [11:45] apt-get source smb4k... [11:47] now I have a .dsc, .diff.gz and a tarball [11:48] and a folder [11:55] <_Tonio_> yes [11:55] I found something on it [11:55] <_Tonio_> so now place the new tarball in the same folder than the .dsc file [11:56] <_Tonio_> .tar.gz format in case it is a .tar.bz2 [11:56] uupdate: command not found [11:56] <_Tonio_> install it ;) [11:56] <_Tonio_> then go in the smk4k folder and launch a "uupdate -u nameofthenewtarball.tar.gz" [11:56] E: Couldn't find package uupdate [11:56] <_Tonio_> that should do the work [11:56] <_Tonio_> jpatrick: apt-file search uupdate [11:57] <_Tonio_> jpatrick: sudo apt-get install devscripts [11:57] prefect [12:02] _Tonio_: I think it worked.. [12:02] _Tonio_: what is the difference between uupdate and zcat foo.diff|patch -p1 ? [12:02] I have a new smb4k-0.6.4 dir [12:02] <_Tonio_> dunno, I always use uupdate ;) [12:02] yep it worked [12:02] <_Tonio_> yes, you just have to modify the files a bit [12:04] I have to change the Maintainer name to me? [12:04] _Tonio_: ah it looks like you don't have to extract the new tarball but apart from that dose exactly the same thing [12:05] PS smb4k (0.6.4-1ubuntu1) breezy; urgency=low - should that be dapper? [12:06] <_Tonio_> seaLne: okay, maybe the uupdate script uses zcat [12:06] <_Tonio_> it is only a script so it may use other tools [12:06] ah seems to do a bit more [12:06] <_Tonio_> i never looked, i just know that works great, and helps earning time :) [12:07] <_Tonio_> doesn't it test the patches to see if they are still applyable, or something like like ? === jpatrick packages [12:31] Riddell: ping [12:31] Riddell: (i updated the feature plan on web.ekhis.org/adept.html) [12:35] anyone else with comments is welcome to state them :) [12:39] oh, and also, what's up with FindingPackages? [12:39] it's sort of, uh-oh... [12:41] mornfall: people complain about adapt, that i removed and replaced it it synaptic, sorry about that [12:42] hmm? [12:43] i am not sure what you mean === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-6.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:44] people complained, that this adapt isnt useable :) [12:44] which people [12:44] where [12:44] #kubuntu-de [12:44] kubuntu forum .... [12:45] _Tonio_: done [12:45] my working friends [12:45] <_Tonio_> mornfall: may I suggest something for the next version of adept ? [12:45] yes? [12:45] the main Kubuntu Forums has some good remarks about Adept [12:45] <_Tonio_> I think that a proxy configuration wizzard would be nice [12:46] <_Tonio_> synaptic has that function, and that can be pretty usefull [12:47] <_Tonio_> even if not a wizzard, simply in adept's options... [12:48] on software support, all i found so far is complaints about kdesu breakage [12:49] _Tonio_: i'd say using kde proxy settings should do? [12:49] <_Tonio_> hum.... didn't test [12:49] <_Tonio_> mornfall: you mean konq proxy ? [12:50] _Tonio_: it doesn't do that atm... it only picks up envvars so far [12:50] <_Tonio_> mornfall: there is a possibility to configa proxy in apt.conf.... but maybe there is another possibility, I don't know [12:50] _Tonio_: but as a feature, i'd say using konq proxy should do [12:50] i'll think about it [12:50] <_Tonio_> okay [12:50] maybe you could make a bugs.kde.org entry for me so i don't forget? :) [12:51] <_Tonio_> no problem, I'll do toonight [12:51] <_Tonio_> also, would you like new icons for version 2.0 or are you fine with those ones ? [12:52] _Tonio_: if someone makes better, why not [12:52] _Tonio_: noone did so far though [12:52] "adept is growing on me" -- how am i supposed to parse that? [12:52] <_Tonio_> I did the actual ones, so maybe I try to improve them a bit [12:53] ah, you mean the application icons [12:53] <_Tonio_> the crystal effect is not perfect... [12:53] yeah, why not [12:53] <_Tonio_> mornfall: yep [12:53] i was thinking action icons here :) [12:53] <_Tonio_> ah okay ;) [12:54] <_Tonio_> also, I'd be interessted in he french translation when the gmo file is available... [12:54] yes, i18n is planned for 2.0 [12:55] <_Tonio_> will it go in launchpad or simply kde i18n for translation ? [12:55] no idea, i guess kde i18n [12:55] we'll see [12:55] <_Tonio_> okay, I'll check around [12:56] can someone point me at the adept remarks on kubuntu forums? [12:56] i can't seem to find them [12:58] which one? [01:00] [12:49:42] < jpatrick> the main Kubuntu Forums has some good remarks about Adept [01:01] url would probably help :-) [01:01] they're a whole bunch of Adept threads :) [01:01] yeah, but nothing too useful [01:01] a few random thoughts on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84126 too [01:01] there are some full/safe upgrade questions -- which will be solved once the manual is done, mostly [01:02] and one keep question, same solution [01:03] Adept should say what extra packages it will install... [01:03] some thoughts myself: most of my beef is with the general UI, really; I find it really problematic; but I see that's going to be worked on, which sounds really promising :). Anything else just seems to be ways in which it's lacking slightly in comparison to synaptic [01:04] apokryphos: you don't like the split, right? [01:04] that's one thing, yes [01:04] jpatrick: there's a huge "preview changes" button *sigh* [01:04] apokryphos: and you suggest what instead? [01:04] (i forgot) [01:05] mornfall: Kynaptic pops up a box [01:05] popups are sort of obnoxious [01:06] but well, i guess showing a preview by default and having an option to disable that will have to do [01:06] others: managed repositories embedded seems odd, I think there should be the traditional kde Settings -> Configure Adept [01:06] personally I think it looks really bad to have *all* the search options right there. And it looks messy if you minimise it a bit. The average end-user (over 95% of them) are just looking for a package keword [01:07] an advanced search should be an extra option [01:07] as for 11) from the above post, that's a no-go [01:07] (note I still think there should be a simple dynamic search available) [01:07] dynamic search meaning? [01:07] mornfall: i'll collect the users feedback and forward it to you === mornfall notes it's -impossible- to please everyone [01:08] amu: thanks [01:11] minor thing: "Reset Filter" should be replaced by that button things like Konq etc. use, no? [01:11] (in Konqueror, next to "Location" URL toolbar) [01:11] apokryphos: and how would that exactly mesh with checkboxes? [01:11] or comboboxes [01:12] mesh? I don't think it would be a problem, would it? [01:12] try to imagine how it will look... it'll be pretty hard to figure what it is supposed to do [01:13] I don't see why; seems fairly standard in kde [01:13] yeah, in front of a lineedit [01:13] i have never ever seen it anywhere else [01:14] now think of: [01:14] x>