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| pef | hello | 08:58 |
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| mornfall | wibble | 09:03 |
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| Lathiat | eww | 01:36 |
| Lathiat | mez dude | 01:36 |
| Lathiat | i think your talking around on wireless or soemthing | 01:36 |
| Lathiat | :) | 01:36 |
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| Tm_T | fd Mez | 01:43 |
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| pef | should I use --disable-rpath when it's possible ? I'm packaging a new upstream version of kdissert and it uses --rpath parameter to build libraries | 01:50 |
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| Tm_T | :( | 02:18 |
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| Tm_T | hmm, I think that'll do it | 02:28 |
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| apokryphos | Tm_T: all fine now; down to crazy wifi :P | 02:36 |
| Mez | ...? | 02:38 |
| apokryphos | was wondering what was going on | 02:40 |
| Tm_T | =) | 03:04 |
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| mornfall | hey it's Riddell :) | 03:39 |
| Riddell | good morning | 03:39 |
| freeflying | Riddell:skim-1.4.3 released | 03:40 |
| Mez | morning Riddell | 03:40 |
| mornfall | freeflying: that almost begs for death penalty *sigh* | 03:41 |
| freeflying | hope it can solve some problems | 03:42 |
| mornfall | i mean the colors | 03:42 |
| freeflying | :( | 03:43 |
| Riddell | freeflying: excellent (but don't use colours in IRC :) | 03:47 |
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| apokryphos | ;-) | 03:48 |
| freeflying | Riddell: lintian message given in last release exist in this still | 03:49 |
| Riddell | freeflying: there must be a way to do --without-rpath | 03:50 |
| freeflying | I've done with this option,but it dosen't work | 03:50 |
| freeflying | maybe shall do something with scim | 03:51 |
| Riddell | freeflying: have you uploaded to revu? | 03:51 |
| freeflying | y | 03:52 |
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| Tm_T | freeflying: WTF | 04:05 |
| Tm_T | nice colours ;) | 04:06 |
| Tm_T | like ads in webpages | 04:06 |
| freeflying | sorry for using colors :) | 04:09 |
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| Mez | lol | 05:00 |
| seaLne | plugged wacom tablet in and started using it, on debian plugged it in mouse stopped working ended up rebooting | 05:00 |
| Riddell | seaLne: I think I know a good solution to that :) | 05:03 |
| Riddell | I got some fanmail today from someone who saw my talk at ubuntu love day, I like fanmail | 05:04 |
| seaLne | yeah well the decision to use sarge was taken while i was down at linux2005 :( | 05:04 |
| seaLne | cool | 05:05 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: so why you don't answer to my mails? I send tens every day :'( | 05:06 |
| seaLne | Tm_T: they obviously aren't honouring him enough :) | 05:06 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: I don't have any e-mail from you except a couple of bugzilla reports (and they don't count as fanmail) | 05:07 |
| Tm_T | damn | 05:08 |
| Riddell | fixing bugzilla reports on the other hand are just as good as fanmail | 05:08 |
| Tm_T | ;) | 05:08 |
| Tm_T | now I wonder who got all that mail | 05:09 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: you always write Amarok :D not amaroK ;-) | 05:12 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: that's because I have a religious testimony against stupid capitalisation | 05:13 |
| apokryphos | they'll get the hint eventually 8) | 05:14 |
| Tm_T | :p | 05:18 |
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| Riddell | http://freehackers.org/~tnagy/kdissert/kdissert_1.0.5.tar.gz | 07:03 |
| Riddell | #kubuntu-devel is my bookmarks | 07:03 |
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| cmvo | Riddell:ping | 07:08 |
| Riddell | cmvo: yo | 07:08 |
| cmvo | Hi! FYI, I asked Waldo Bastian about my kdesu fix and he replied that it was the solution for the problem. | 07:09 |
| Riddell | cmvo: oh excellent, I've been poking people on IRC but got no reply, and waldo hasn't been on | 07:09 |
| Riddell | so cool, that can be uploaded to breezy-updates | 07:10 |
| cmvo | I'll be in 3.5 and may get backported to 3.4. | 07:10 |
| Riddell | 3.4 branch is dead, 3.5 is what's important | 07:11 |
| cmvo | I was curious and sent him an email :-) | 07:11 |
| Riddell | I rely on IRC too much :) | 07:11 |
| cmvo | I found his IRC nick, buyt couldn't find him on any KDE channel. | 07:12 |
| cmvo | I think putting it in breezy updates should be ok. Or have you found any testers with problems? | 07:14 |
| Riddell | cmvo: yeah, reports of success on http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/8681 | 07:15 |
| cmvo | Just read it, sounds good. | 07:17 |
| cmvo | I wanted to try it on hoary, but didn't have the time today. | 07:18 |
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| Riddell | hmm good point, we should support hoary too | 07:18 |
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| Riddell | but there's zero changes in kdesu between breezy and hoary so it'll be fine | 07:19 |
| Riddell | http://freehackers.org/~tnagy/kdissert/kdissert_1.0.5.dsc | 07:19 |
| Riddell | kdissert package there needs tidying | 07:19 |
| cmvo | I think so too, seems the bug could have existed since kde 3.2. I think it worked in kde 3.1. | 07:19 |
| cmvo | Something else: How is the kubuntu live CD build? chroot and scripts? | 07:22 |
| Riddell | cmvo: live CD is magic done by kamion and others | 07:23 |
| Riddell | cmvo: but see the gnome live CD for how to edit it | 07:23 |
| cmvo | Ok, I'll take a look. I'm thinking about an ubuntu-router on a bootable CD. But no X, just text mode. | 07:26 |
| Riddell | ubuntu-server is a non X CD | 07:27 |
| Riddell | not live though | 07:27 |
| cmvo | I'd need a live version for systems w/o HD. | 07:28 |
| Riddell | gnome CD have scripts to take apart a live CD and put it together again differently | 07:29 |
| Riddell | feel free to adapt them to KDE ;) | 07:29 |
| sebas | Why would you adapt those scripts to a server live cd that doesn't run X anyway? | 07:29 |
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| pef | Riddell: hello jonathan | 08:02 |
| pef | Riddell: I'm working on new upstream version of kdissert | 08:03 |
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| Riddell | pef: rocking | 08:13 |
| Riddell | pef: take a look at what upstream did, see if it's worth using http://freehackers.org/~tnagy/kdissert/kdissert_1.0.5.dsc http://freehackers.org/~tnagy/kdissert/kdissert_1.0.5.tar.gz | 08:13 |
| Riddell | but it's a native package at the moment so that at least needs changing | 08:14 |
| pef | Riddell: all is ok, I wrote a patch to disable rpath in SConstruct, and now I just have to complete the clean target | 08:17 |
| Riddell | pef: wow, that'll solve freefling's skim lintian issues too | 08:19 |
| pef | Riddell: yep, no longer warnings :) | 08:20 |
| Riddell | pef: can I see the patch? and have you passed it upstream? | 08:20 |
| pef | Riddell: just wait a few minutes, I have to go to home, will reconnect quickly :) | 08:21 |
| Riddell | cool cool | 08:21 |
| pef | bbl ! | 08:22 |
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| cmvo | Got to go. Cu! | 08:34 |
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| pef | Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=858 | 09:36 |
| Riddell | excellent, I'll add that to my list of things to look at | 09:37 |
| Mez | hmmm | 09:38 |
| Mez | dissert | 09:38 |
| Mez | desert | 09:38 |
| Mez | mmm | 09:38 |
| pef | Riddell: concerning rpath, I just had to remove something from SConstruct file | 09:40 |
| Riddell | pef: if you're in a packaging mood, mateedit would be uber-cool | 09:48 |
| Mez | Riddell: I was going to look at matedit | 09:51 |
| Riddell | Mez: well whoever gets there first :) | 09:51 |
| pef | Mez: have you already begin the packaging ? | 09:52 |
| Mez | no | 09:53 |
| Mez | just downloading | 09:53 |
| pef | Riddell: have you another kde apps in mind ? | 09:55 |
| Riddell | pef: yzis? | 09:57 |
| Riddell | no idea what the status of that is yet | 09:57 |
| Riddell | but people are missing the lack o kvim | 09:57 |
| pef | Mez: if you want to package mateedit, go :) I can find another one to package | 10:00 |
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| tshah | Hey, is the person in change of the kubuntu homepage here? | 10:13 |
| Riddell | tshah: hi | 10:14 |
| Riddell | that's me | 10:14 |
| tshah | Hey, I have a few suggestions for the website | 10:14 |
| Riddell | cool, let's have them | 10:14 |
| tshah | ok | 10:15 |
| tshah | 1. At the top left where it shows the kubuntu logo (in the header). The logo should link back to the home page | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: little question concerning systemsettings | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is the fact that it is not fully translated a bug in the code, or does it go within a gmo file ? | 10:16 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I was assuming it was using the same langage terms than kcontrol right ? | 10:16 |
| Riddell | it's a bug in kcontrol | 10:17 |
| Riddell | I think it just doesn't pass the needed --with-lang=foo to the module when it gets loaded | 10:18 |
| Riddell | I'll get it fixed, it's an important issue | 10:18 |
| Riddell | I should put kubuntu.org in bzr | 10:18 |
| Riddell | tshah: good idea | 10:18 |
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| Mez | Riddell: then we can all play ? | 10:19 |
| tshah | 2. (Still in the header) The tabs on the top right should probably have an "alt" attribute | 10:20 |
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| Riddell | pef: meeting? | 10:20 |
| pef | Riddell: yep | 10:20 |
| Riddell | pef: give me some warning!! | 10:21 |
| Riddell | pef: where is your wiki page? | 10:21 |
| pef | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoicPefferkorn | 10:21 |
| Riddell | pef: cool, add kdissert to that | 10:23 |
| pef | Riddell: packaging new upstream version ? | 10:23 |
| Riddell | yeah | 10:23 |
| Riddell | qtparted too, and all the other stuff you have on revu | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: concerning the libssl-dev depedancie issue, would you suggest to upload anyway, or wait ? | 10:24 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: dunno, what's the issue? | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | impossible to build any package with pbuilder | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | because of kdelibs4-dev | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 10:25 |
| Tonio_ | kdelibs4-dev: Depends: libssl-dev but it is not going to be installed | 10:25 |
| Tonio_ | E: Broken packages | 10:25 |
| Mez | yeah | 10:25 |
| Mez | looking at that now | 10:25 |
| Tonio_ | still the same problem than last week, and I just wonder if it is not better to wait for uploading on REVU | 10:25 |
| Tonio_ | I have plenty of packages waiting ;) | 10:26 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: upload to revu is fine, upload to ubuntu may be best to wait | 10:26 |
| Riddell | but what's the actualy issue, you need toapt-get install libssl-dev to see what the problem is | 10:26 |
| Mez | Tonio_, dont you have access to REUV? | 10:26 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes but I can't check if it'll build correctly when the depandancy issue will be corrected... | 10:26 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: I have access, but I don't wan't to upload packages that will may not build correctly ;) | 10:27 |
| tshah | Riddell: I have a few more problems with the site, should I e-mail you the list (I can even send you the html changes)? | 10:27 |
| Tonio_ | I can't be sure they are good even if they build on breezy | 10:27 |
| Riddell | tshah: do you have the site code? | 10:27 |
| tshah | only when I use the "view source" function ;) | 10:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll test that yes | 10:27 |
| Riddell | tshah: hang on | 10:29 |
| Mez | libssl-dev: Depends: libssl0.9.7 (= 0.9.7g-1ubuntu1) but 0.9.7g-1ubuntu1.1 is to be installed | 10:29 |
| Riddell | tshah: http://kubuntu.org/~jr/tmp/kubuntu.org-2005-11-1/ | 10:31 |
| Riddell | tshah: http://kubuntu.org/~jr/tmp/kubuntu.org.tar.bz2 | 10:31 |
| Riddell | rather | 10:31 |
| tshah | ok, I will probably get some of the changes done tonight | 10:32 |
| Riddell | tshah: do your changes, do a diff -u, e-mail me the URL to the diff and that'll be uer-col | 10:32 |
| Riddell | uber-cool | 10:32 |
| pef | Riddell: can you have a look on #ubuntu-meeting :) | 10:32 |
| Riddell | tshah: for extra love can you go to the wiki and changes to the kubuntu skin in UserPreferences, the tabs on the website should match them | 10:34 |
| Riddell | i.e. same fonts and add a wiki tab | 10:35 |
| tshah | Riddell: ok, I'll get working on it | 10:36 |
| Riddell | tshah: cool | 10:36 |
| Mez | pef: whats your paunchpad ID? | 10:43 |
| pef | Mez: loic | 10:44 |
| Mez | Loic Pefferkorn (loic) was added as a member of Kubuntu Team. | 10:47 |
| Mez | Loic Pefferkorn (loic) was added as a member of MOTU. | 10:47 |
| pef | Mez: thank you :) | 10:47 |
| Mez | np | 10:47 |
| Mez | http://www.sourceguru.net/kubuntu-logo-small.png | 10:53 |
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| pef | have to go to bed :) | 10:59 |
| pef | bye ! | 10:59 |
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| tshah | Riddell: I just want to confirm something I found. So kubuntu is based on ubuntu which is based on the african word for "humanity towards others". And the "k" there is really to imply that this is for KDE, right? | 11:17 |
| Tm_T | ubuntu with kde | 11:19 |
| tshah | cool, thanks Tm_T | 11:24 |
| Tm_T | that's my "opinion" ;) | 11:26 |
| Tm_T | and IF I remember right, kubuntu has some meaning too as a word | 11:27 |
| Tm_T | "It means "towards humanity" in Bemba." | 11:27 |
| tshah | I am trying to confirm that | 11:27 |
| Tm_T | http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php | 11:28 |
| tshah | Yeah, I am working on the faq, I think that part is wrong | 11:28 |
| Tm_T | oh? | 11:28 |
| tshah | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(ideology) | 11:28 |
| tshah | It also says it without a k here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu | 11:30 |
| Tm_T | yu | 11:31 |
| Tm_T | so maybe it is just "Ubuntu with K(de) | 11:31 |
| Tm_T | " | 11:31 |
| tshah | Yeah, that is my thinking, I just wanted to confirm it with one other developer and and Riddell (since he made the site) | 11:32 |
| Tm_T | heh, good idea ;) | 11:32 |
| Tm_T | and bts i's sir Riddell ;-P | 11:33 |
| Tm_T | s/bts/btw | 11:33 |
| allee | lol | 11:33 |
| Riddell | ubuntu means love of humanity in zulu/xhosa and other languages, kubuntu means towards humanity in bemba | 12:01 |
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