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I'm packaging a new upstream version of kdissert and it uses --rpath parameter to build libraries === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.215] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.215] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.215] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.215] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.215] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.215] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.215] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.215] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:18] :( === Tm_T kracks into mez's pc and shut the fuck up === mornfall_ [n=mornfall@r31s01p04.home.nbox.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:28] hmm, I think that'll do it === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.187] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A61CAD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:36] Tm_T: all fine now; down to crazy wifi :P [02:38] ...? [02:40] was wondering what was going on [03:04] =) === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.249] has joined #kubuntu-devel === CaiN_SA [n=cain@66.103.220.184] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@66.103.220.184] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@66.103.220.184] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@66.103.220.184] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:39] hey it's Riddell :) [03:39] good morning [03:40] Riddell:skim-1.4.3 released [03:40] morning Riddell [03:41] freeflying: that almost begs for death penalty *sigh* [03:42] hope it can solve some problems [03:42] i mean the colors [03:43] :( [03:47] freeflying: excellent (but don't use colours in IRC :) === apokryphos sets channel mode to +c [03:48] ;-) [03:49] Riddell: lintian message given in last release exist in this still [03:50] freeflying: there must be a way to do --without-rpath [03:50] I've done with this option,but it dosen't work [03:51] maybe shall do something with scim [03:51] freeflying: have you uploaded to revu? [03:52] y === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D336A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D336A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D336A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:05] freeflying: WTF [04:06] nice colours ;) [04:06] like ads in webpages [04:09] sorry for using colors :) === Mez [n=Mez@209.104.102.193] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D336A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.253] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@209.104.102.193] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mez_ [n=Mez@209.104.102.193] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-6.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seaLne just got told off by his manager for running kubuntu on his desktop as it makes people with our standard debian desktops jealous :) [05:00] lol [05:00] plugged wacom tablet in and started using it, on debian plugged it in mouse stopped working ended up rebooting [05:03] seaLne: I think I know a good solution to that :) [05:04] I got some fanmail today from someone who saw my talk at ubuntu love day, I like fanmail [05:04] yeah well the decision to use sarge was taken while i was down at linux2005 :( [05:05] cool [05:06] Riddell: so why you don't answer to my mails? I send tens every day :'( [05:06] Tm_T: they obviously aren't honouring him enough :) [05:07] Tm_T: I don't have any e-mail from you except a couple of bugzilla reports (and they don't count as fanmail) [05:08] damn [05:08] fixing bugzilla reports on the other hand are just as good as fanmail [05:08] ;) [05:09] now I wonder who got all that mail [05:12] Riddell: you always write Amarok :D not amaroK ;-) [05:13] apokryphos: that's because I have a religious testimony against stupid capitalisation [05:14] they'll get the hint eventually 8) [05:18] :p === olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-157-221-103.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mez_ [n=Mez@209.104.102.193] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F54E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Tonio_ is now known as Tonio- === Tonio- is now known as Tonio_ === Tonio- [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === snikker [n=snikker@host39-84.pool8256.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cmvo [n=cmvo@62.225.11.174] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:03] http://freehackers.org/~tnagy/kdissert/kdissert_1.0.5.tar.gz [07:03] #kubuntu-devel is my bookmarks === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === snikker [n=snikker@host39-84.pool8256.interbusiness.it] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Sto] [07:08] Riddell:ping [07:08] cmvo: yo [07:09] Hi! FYI, I asked Waldo Bastian about my kdesu fix and he replied that it was the solution for the problem. [07:09] cmvo: oh excellent, I've been poking people on IRC but got no reply, and waldo hasn't been on [07:10] so cool, that can be uploaded to breezy-updates [07:10] I'll be in 3.5 and may get backported to 3.4. [07:11] 3.4 branch is dead, 3.5 is what's important [07:11] I was curious and sent him an email :-) [07:11] I rely on IRC too much :) [07:12] I found his IRC nick, buyt couldn't find him on any KDE channel. [07:14] I think putting it in breezy updates should be ok. Or have you found any testers with problems? [07:15] cmvo: yeah, reports of success on http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/8681 [07:17] Just read it, sounds good. [07:18] I wanted to try it on hoary, but didn't have the time today. === Mez [n=Mez@209.104.102.193] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:18] hmm good point, we should support hoary too === Mez [n=Mez@209.104.102.193] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:19] but there's zero changes in kdesu between breezy and hoary so it'll be fine [07:19] http://freehackers.org/~tnagy/kdissert/kdissert_1.0.5.dsc [07:19] kdissert package there needs tidying [07:19] I think so too, seems the bug could have existed since kde 3.2. I think it worked in kde 3.1. [07:22] Something else: How is the kubuntu live CD build? chroot and scripts? [07:23] cmvo: live CD is magic done by kamion and others [07:23] cmvo: but see the gnome live CD for how to edit it [07:26] Ok, I'll take a look. I'm thinking about an ubuntu-router on a bootable CD. But no X, just text mode. [07:27] ubuntu-server is a non X CD [07:27] not live though [07:28] I'd need a live version for systems w/o HD. [07:29] gnome CD have scripts to take apart a live CD and put it together again differently [07:29] feel free to adapt them to KDE ;) [07:29] Why would you adapt those scripts to a server live cd that doesn't run X anyway? === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-157-250-208.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:02] Riddell: hello jonathan [08:03] Riddell: I'm working on new upstream version of kdissert === olwin_ is away: Away at the moment === Czessi [n=czessi@dslb-084-059-004-071.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=czessi@dslb-084-059-004-071.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [08:13] pef: rocking [08:13] pef: take a look at what upstream did, see if it's worth using http://freehackers.org/~tnagy/kdissert/kdissert_1.0.5.dsc http://freehackers.org/~tnagy/kdissert/kdissert_1.0.5.tar.gz [08:14] but it's a native package at the moment so that at least needs changing [08:17] Riddell: all is ok, I wrote a patch to disable rpath in SConstruct, and now I just have to complete the clean target [08:19] pef: wow, that'll solve freefling's skim lintian issues too [08:20] Riddell: yep, no longer warnings :) [08:20] pef: can I see the patch? and have you passed it upstream? [08:21] Riddell: just wait a few minutes, I have to go to home, will reconnect quickly :) [08:21] cool cool [08:22] bbl ! === Mez [n=Mez@209.104.102.193] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-6.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === olwin_ is back. === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:34] Got to go. Cu! === cmvo [n=cmvo@62.225.11.174] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === viviersf [n=cain@209.104.102.193] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mez_ [n=Mez@66.103.220.251] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-157-218-154.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@209.104.102.193] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef [n=loic@dyn-83-157-249-3.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=czessi@dslb-084-059-004-071.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A62B91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@66.103.220.184] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mez_ [n=Mez@209.104.102.193] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=czessi@dslb-084-059-004-071.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [09:36] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=858 [09:37] excellent, I'll add that to my list of things to look at [09:38] hmmm [09:38] dissert [09:38] desert [09:38] mmm [09:40] Riddell: concerning rpath, I just had to remove something from SConstruct file [09:48] pef: if you're in a packaging mood, mateedit would be uber-cool [09:51] Riddell: I was going to look at matedit [09:51] Mez: well whoever gets there first :) [09:52] Mez: have you already begin the packaging ? [09:53] no [09:53] just downloading [09:55] Riddell: have you another kde apps in mind ? [09:57] pef: yzis? [09:57] no idea what the status of that is yet [09:57] but people are missing the lack o kvim [10:00] Mez: if you want to package mateedit, go :) I can find another one to package === Czessi [n=czessi@dslb-084-059-004-071.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=czessi@dslb-084-059-004-071.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === _olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-153-69-231.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tshah [n=tshah@KOSHISH.RES.cmu.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:13] Hey, is the person in change of the kubuntu homepage here? [10:14] tshah: hi [10:14] that's me [10:14] Hey, I have a few suggestions for the website [10:14] cool, let's have them [10:15] ok [10:15] 1. At the top left where it shows the kubuntu logo (in the header). The logo should link back to the home page [10:15] Riddell: little question concerning systemsettings [10:16] Riddell: is the fact that it is not fully translated a bug in the code, or does it go within a gmo file ? [10:16] Riddell: I was assuming it was using the same langage terms than kcontrol right ? [10:17] it's a bug in kcontrol [10:18] I think it just doesn't pass the needed --with-lang=foo to the module when it gets loaded [10:18] I'll get it fixed, it's an important issue [10:18] I should put kubuntu.org in bzr [10:18] tshah: good idea === olwina [n=olwin@dyn-83-157-246-157.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:19] Riddell: then we can all play ? [10:20] 2. (Still in the header) The tabs on the top right should probably have an "alt" attribute === viviersf [n=cain@66.103.220.184] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:20] pef: meeting? [10:20] Riddell: yep [10:21] pef: give me some warning!! [10:21] pef: where is your wiki page? [10:21] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoicPefferkorn [10:23] pef: cool, add kdissert to that [10:23] Riddell: packaging new upstream version ? [10:23] yeah [10:24] qtparted too, and all the other stuff you have on revu [10:24] Riddell: concerning the libssl-dev depedancie issue, would you suggest to upload anyway, or wait ? [10:24] Tonio_: dunno, what's the issue? [10:24] impossible to build any package with pbuilder [10:24] because of kdelibs4-dev [10:25] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [10:25] kdelibs4-dev: Depends: libssl-dev but it is not going to be installed [10:25] E: Broken packages [10:25] yeah [10:25] looking at that now [10:25] still the same problem than last week, and I just wonder if it is not better to wait for uploading on REVU [10:26] I have plenty of packages waiting ;) [10:26] Tonio_: upload to revu is fine, upload to ubuntu may be best to wait [10:26] but what's the actualy issue, you need toapt-get install libssl-dev to see what the problem is [10:26] Tonio_, dont you have access to REUV? [10:26] Riddell: yes but I can't check if it'll build correctly when the depandancy issue will be corrected... [10:27] Mez: I have access, but I don't wan't to upload packages that will may not build correctly ;) [10:27] Riddell: I have a few more problems with the site, should I e-mail you the list (I can even send you the html changes)? [10:27] I can't be sure they are good even if they build on breezy [10:27] tshah: do you have the site code? [10:27] only when I use the "view source" function ;) [10:27] Riddell: I'll test that yes [10:29] tshah: hang on [10:29] libssl-dev: Depends: libssl0.9.7 (= 0.9.7g-1ubuntu1) but 0.9.7g-1ubuntu1.1 is to be installed [10:31] tshah: http://kubuntu.org/~jr/tmp/kubuntu.org-2005-11-1/ [10:31] tshah: http://kubuntu.org/~jr/tmp/kubuntu.org.tar.bz2 [10:31] rather [10:32] ok, I will probably get some of the changes done tonight [10:32] tshah: do your changes, do a diff -u, e-mail me the URL to the diff and that'll be uer-col [10:32] uber-cool [10:32] Riddell: can you have a look on #ubuntu-meeting :) [10:34] tshah: for extra love can you go to the wiki and changes to the kubuntu skin in UserPreferences, the tabs on the website should match them [10:35] i.e. same fonts and add a wiki tab [10:36] Riddell: ok, I'll get working on it [10:36] tshah: cool [10:43] pef: whats your paunchpad ID? [10:44] Mez: loic [10:47] Loic Pefferkorn (loic) was added as a member of Kubuntu Team. [10:47] Loic Pefferkorn (loic) was added as a member of MOTU. [10:47] Mez: thank you :) [10:47] np [10:53] http://www.sourceguru.net/kubuntu-logo-small.png === tshah [n=tshah@KOSHISH.RES.cmu.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:59] have to go to bed :) [10:59] bye ! === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:17] Riddell: I just want to confirm something I found. So kubuntu is based on ubuntu which is based on the african word for "humanity towards others". And the "k" there is really to imply that this is for KDE, right? [11:19] ubuntu with kde [11:24] cool, thanks Tm_T [11:26] that's my "opinion" ;) [11:27] and IF I remember right, kubuntu has some meaning too as a word [11:27] "It means "towards humanity" in Bemba." [11:27] I am trying to confirm that [11:28] http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php [11:28] Yeah, I am working on the faq, I think that part is wrong [11:28] oh? [11:28] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(ideology) [11:30] It also says it without a k here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu [11:31] yu [11:31] so maybe it is just "Ubuntu with K(de) [11:31] " [11:32] Yeah, that is my thinking, I just wanted to confirm it with one other developer and and Riddell (since he made the site) [11:32] heh, good idea ;) [11:33] and bts i's sir Riddell ;-P [11:33] s/bts/btw [11:33] lol [12:01] ubuntu means love of humanity in zulu/xhosa and other languages, kubuntu means towards humanity in bemba