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kkathmanIf I right click on the toolbar...still another12:03
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Chiznhow do i write dvds in kde?12:04
sorush20kkathman: I wanted to edit the menu section that suggests action to take.. or just the main section so I can more to and copy to a different locaiton.12:04
shrinkyjL[os] ``how do i change the shortcut on konquerer12:05
shrinkyjL[os] ``i want to use mozilla firefox instead12:05
flixorChizn, you could use a program wich is called k3b 12:05
flixori used it and it works like a charm i must say 12:05
Chiznflixor, i use that does it work by default for burning dvd data discs?12:05
flixorwhen you start k3b does it says its missing programs 12:06
naliothChizn: it burns any kind of discs, what exactly are you wanting to know?12:06
flixorbecause if not it will burn th dvd 12:06
kkathmansorush20: try starting in your home directory and the .kde directory12:06
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kkathmansorush20: then go to the share directory and examine those config files12:07
flixorrightclick on the konquror shortcut go to properties and then to the third (right) and there you can change the app wich you want to start with that shortcut12:08
flixorshrinkyjL[os] ``, rightclick on the konquror shortcut go to properties and then to the third (right) and there you can change the app wich you want to start with that shortcut12:08
sorush20kkathman: thanks.. 12:08
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shrinky_flixor, thanks12:09
flixoryes i am glad that i could be of help overhere :) most question are above my head 12:09
flixorbut i learn a lot overhere and there ( in other channels)12:10
naliothhaving a bad storm here12:10
naliothflixor: you need to add the missing programs (they are optional, which is why adept doesnt install them)12:11
shrinky_i found an easier way to get the firefox shortcut, thanks anyway12:11
flixorwell you could copy one from your start menu or whatever its called on linu 12:12
flixornalioth, you mean for k3b 12:12
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naliothflixor: yes, sorry i got d/c due to a bad storm here12:13
flixorkee  12:13
flixorman nalioth i am so excited i am going to compile my first kernel today or tonight i am already donwloading the kernel-tree :)12:14
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flixordownloading is a bit slow though but we have the time tonight 12:14
kkathmankewl flixor, hope you have better luck than me today :(12:14
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flixoroh my god what happend 12:14
MarsHi12:14
flixorhya mars12:14
MarsI have problem with superkaramba12:14
kkathmanI compiled an app, it was ok, but didnt work :(12:14
flixorwell kkathman i just following a tutorial so i have it works 12:14
kkathmanHi Mars12:15
flixorwell i hope indeed that i have better luck 12:15
kkathmanwhats the prob with SK ?12:15
flixorwell while downloading i have to find out how this bootloader grub works 12:15
naliothflixor: enjoy12:16
kkathmanugh...grub bleh12:16
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MarsProblem is that when i am trying to run some themes i cant see anything.There is nothing more than a transparental square. 12:16
kkathmanMars: whats you prob with SK ?12:16
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flixoryes i am already doing that :) well you notice your selfs if i dont come online afterwards lol 12:16
kkathmanMars: you might need to right click on the settings, if there are some to set the font colors12:17
kkathmanor...you can modify the python too12:17
kkathmanat least usually you can :)12:17
MarsI mean that there is nothing. I was trying with theme showing weather and later with one showing moon. 12:18
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JosephHello.12:18
JosephCan anyone help me? Whenever I restart Kubuntu GRUB doesn't show up, and I tried reinstalling and it still doesn't show up. :(12:18
kkathmanHi Joseph :)12:18
JosephOr restart the computer.12:18
JosephHey again kkathman!12:18
kkathmanhmm12:18
JosephI fixed my problem the other day.12:18
JosephSomeone recommended installing the nvidia drivers. :)12:19
kkathmandual-booting?12:19
JosephYes.12:19
MarsMaybe i need to update my SK?12:19
kkathmanMars, no...just check the font colors12:19
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kkathmanJoseph...so you can start from a cold start and you get the GRUB?12:19
JosephNo.12:20
kkathmanohh12:20
JosephI restart, and I don't get GRUB.12:20
JosephIt doesn't show up, just boots windows. o.O12:20
kkathmanRestart = reset or power off/power on?12:20
JosephReset.12:20
Joseph;)12:20
JosephMy mom turned off the computer this morning though.12:20
JosephWhen she took the computer cord away. ><12:20
kkathmanahh... what happens when you turn the computer off completely?12:20
kkathmanLOL12:21
JosephMaybe that had something to do with it?12:21
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kkathmanuhoh12:21
JosephI don't know, I haven't tried it yet.12:21
Josepho.O12:21
kkathmanwell hopefully she didnt unplug it while it was on or booting12:21
JosephI just came home from school, and GRUB wouldn't start.12:21
Joseph-.-12:21
JosephShe might have, I'm thining not though.12:21
Joseph*thinking12:21
kkathmanIm a parent, but would never unplug a computer while the computer was on!12:22
JosephMy mom doesn't know much about computers. :(12:22
flixorkkathman, what is the name of the latest kubuntu version 12:22
flixorhoary or breezy 12:22
Joseph5.0412:22
crimsunflixor: 5.1012:22
kkathmanBreezy 5.1012:22
crimsun(Breezy)12:22
JosephBreezy Badger12:22
flixoroke thanks guys 12:22
Josephyeah.12:22
Josephyay!12:22
Josepho.O12:22
kkathmanJoseph, was the computer on when you came home?12:22
JosephNo.12:23
JosephThe computer cord was in, and, the computer was off.12:23
JosephI had to turn it on.12:23
kkathmanand you turned it on..and it didnt give you the grub?12:23
JosephNo.12:23
JosephEven when I reinstalled.12:23
JosephMAN, I get ALL the tough problems, don't I? :(12:23
kkathmanooo weird12:23
kkathmanhmm12:23
JosephMaybe I configured grub wrong?12:23
JosephI did (hd0,1)12:23
kkathmanI might have to turn you over to good ol crimsun12:23
Josephoh noes, not teh crimson! ;)12:24
crimsun?12:24
Josephwh00ps12:24
Josephi spelled it wrong. xD12:24
kkathmanGRUB isnt my thing cuz I dont dual boot :)12:24
Josephlol.12:24
Joseph;)12:24
kkathmancrimsun: dunno whats goin on...he reinstalled GRUB and doesnt get a boot12:24
JosephI wish I didn't but I got things to play man!12:24
kkathmanused to tho12:24
Josephwh00ps12:24
JosephI meant games, not things. xD12:24
kkathmanJoseph: is your windows system ok? when it boots?12:25
JosephYep.12:25
Marskkathman, Look at my desktop http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1311/zrzutekranu35jm.png and search for transparental square. I was moving it12:25
JosephVery nice desktop Mars. :)12:25
kkathmanyah nice :)12:25
MarsJoseph, Thanks I am working to make it better :)12:26
JosephSo is Crimsun going to help me? ><12:26
kkathmanI dont see a blank square tho12:26
kkathmanI dunno..you'll have to ask him :)12:26
Joseph>: (12:26
Josephlol12:26
kkathmanor give him a cookie12:26
JosephI WANT TEH COOKIE! ><12:26
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Marskkathman, It's there12:27
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JosephAww man. :(12:27
JosephI need help. ><12:27
kkathmanMars: Did you try right clicking on the app?12:27
MarsYes12:27
kkathmanMars: and?12:27
treefroghas anyone susessfully chased the install of the deb version of skype ?? my install is looking for libqt3c102 mt is that in a repos that i need to enable?12:28
kkathmantreefrog: just sudo apt-get install it12:28
crimsunlibqt3c102-mt does not exist in Breezy/5.1012:28
Josephcrimsun, yay12:28
crimsunits replacement is libqt3-mt12:28
Josephcan you help me?12:28
kkathmanlook for libqt12:28
Marskkathman, nothing12:28
crimsunJoseph: I don't know, can I?12:28
jsubl2!find skype12:28
kkathmanMars -   nothing??12:28
JosephMaybe.. o.O12:28
JosephCan anyone help me? Whenever I restart Kubuntu GRUB doesn't show up, and I tried reinstalling and it still doesn't show up. :(12:28
JosephThats what I said.12:29
JosephSo yeah..12:29
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'skype' (1 shown): (/usr/share/ubuntu-docs/gnome/menus/C/skype.xml) in text/ubuntu-docs.12:29
Josepho.O12:29
simonsbri use kubuntu and hava problem to configure pppoe someone know a package to correct it? i have two eth12:29
treefrogconflicting .. err did that .. I'll look again. 12:29
crimsunJoseph: what's the other OS?12:29
kkathmanI think theres definitely something wrong with the app then...all SK's have a right click so you can do various things with em12:29
JosephKubuntu, 5.1012:29
simonsbryes12:29
crimsunJoseph: you have two Kubuntu installs on the same drive?12:29
Josepho.o12:29
simonsbrJoseph: 12:29
JosephNo, just windows and linux.12:30
crimsunJoseph: so which Windows?12:30
flixorehm it seems that i have some dep problems overhere lol 12:30
JosephXP. :(12:30
JosephI wish I had 2000 professional.12:30
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crimsunJoseph: did you choose guided partitioning in the installer?12:30
JosephYes.12:31
JosephHow'd you know?!12:31
JosephWell sort of.12:31
crimsunJoseph: and it installed correctly, correct?12:31
JosephI chose, redistribute free space, or w/e12:31
JosephI think so, it didn't say anything.12:31
Mars_^kkathman,  square in my desktop isnt blank but transparental12:31
jsubl2treefrog: try updating your sources from this location - http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic  -- then try to install skype12:31
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crimsunJoseph: so when you reboot, it boots directly into XP?12:31
flixorkkathman, i cant install this program libqt3-mt-dev i get this error message 12:31
JosephYep. :(12:31
treefrogK12:31
kazuHello there12:31
JosephWhats up. :)12:31
crimsunJoseph: is this on a SCSI HD?12:31
jsubl2seveas maintains a skype package it appears12:31
JosephI.. don't know.12:31
Josepho.O12:31
JosephSeagate, I think.12:32
JosephI don't remember.12:32
flixore volgende pakketten hebben niet-voldane vereisten:12:32
flixor  libqt3-mt-dev: Vereisten: libpng12-0-dev12:32
JosephI know I bought it like a couple of years ago.12:32
flixorwich is saying that it needs libpng12-0-dev 12:32
flixorbut that one i cant install either. Its saying De volgende pakketten hebben niet-voldane vereisten:12:32
flixor  libpng12-dev: Vereisten: libpng12-0 (= 1.2.8rel-1ubuntu3) maar 1.2.8rel-5 zal genstalleerd worden12:32
sorush20how do I change the gui font of OOo, ? 12:32
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flixorehm sorry for the spam 12:32
crimsunJoseph: no idea what type of HD it is? IDE? SCSI? SATA?12:32
Josepho.12:32
Joseph*oh.12:32
SpecialBuddydoes anyone know how to install kooldock12:32
Josephi think its IDE.12:32
Josephbecause it says12:32
Josephmodify ide12:32
Josephor w/e12:33
Joseph;)12:33
kazuJust a short question if one of you add 2mins :) did someone know why the writing, reading to a fat32 on the same hdd of my ext3 could be slow in reading and writing ?12:33
crimsunJoseph: do you have a Ubuntu or Kubuntu live CD handy?12:33
JosephYep.12:33
JosephI ordered 10 Ubuntu CDs, not the latest version though. xD12:33
crimsunJoseph: boot into it12:33
JosephI got them right before Breezy Badger came out.12:33
JosephHold no.12:33
JosephBRB.12:33
shrinky_How do i install ActiveX?12:34
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kazuJoseph you have to overwrite the mbr grub or lilo boot programm12:34
flixoractiveX ?? do you want to install that on linux and i dont think its possible shrinky_ 12:34
jsubl2shrinky_: linux does not have activeX12:34
kazuso is someone could help me ? please :p12:35
flixorhow slow is it kazu 12:35
shrinky_i heard you can install it12:35
jsubl2kazu: i don't write often enough to fat32 to help you12:35
shrinky_because you may need it to install a game for wine12:35
kkathmanflixor:  lemme see real quick12:36
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flixorkazu, maybe you could tweak your hd with hdparm 12:36
kazuhum it's working but taking quite a long to oving big files ....jsubl2 a lot more than if I copy from a ext3 to an ext312:36
kazutweak what does that mean ? ( i am french sorry :p )12:36
Mars_^kkathman,  i right clicked on theme and edited. Thats whats in it: KARAMBA  X=754 Y=525 W=250 H=200 INTERVAL=3600000 LOCKED=true12:36
flixorehm i am dutch :) 12:36
kkathmanflixor: should be able to do a sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt and/or libqt3-mt-dev12:37
kkathmanthey are both in the repos12:37
flixoryes but i got a dependency problem when i do that 12:37
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kazui am looking in a dictionnary :p12:37
naliothflixor: ah, i smell non ubuntu repositories in your system12:37
kkathmanMars can you ctrl-click or ctrl-right-click ?12:37
kkathmanon it12:37
jsubl2flixor: i think tweaking hard drive params is rarely needed... normally the kernel sets it up fine12:37
kazuok jsubl2 have you got another idea ?12:38
flixorkee, maybe you could help him jsubl2 i am just a week on kubuntu and linux i have read a lot about it but i lack experience 12:38
flixorand knowledge :) but we will learn 12:38
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ubuntuBack.12:39
ubuntuOK.12:39
ubuntuIt booted fine.12:39
flixorehm nalioth, that could be 12:39
flixori have installed some non kubuntu packages just to try 12:39
naliothflixor: this is why we highly recommend NOT using non ubuntu repos12:39
flixorso how can i fix this little animal 12:39
kkathmanflixor: hes saying that your repos might not be all ubuntu12:39
flixorlol, well i think i never will do this again 12:39
kkathmanits ok to have apps that arent ;)12:39
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kazuflixor maybe fixing the dma with hdparm ?12:39
ubuntucrimsun12:40
ubuntu?12:40
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crimsunubuntu: busy atm12:40
kkathmanflixor: can you do this:   apt-cache search libqt3-mt12:40
ubuntuNo, its me joseph.12:40
ubuntuo.O12:40
naliothflixor: using non ubuntu repos ONCE can affect your system from that point 12:40
flixorehm kazu wait a moment i wil be comming back on your problem in one sec 12:40
naliothkkathman: he has them, but cant install due to depends12:40
kazuok noprobs flixor :) thks12:40
ubuntucrimsun?12:41
crimsunubuntu: dude, I just said I'm busy atm12:41
crimsuncan you wait like 5 minutes?12:41
ubuntuI KNOW.12:41
ubuntuBut weren't you SUPPOSED to be helping me?12:41
ubuntuo.O12:41
flixoryes i can do that kkathman 12:41
ubuntuIf not then I'll be quiet.12:41
crimsunubuntu: I have a real job that demands my attention. Please be patient.12:41
kkathmannalioth: I dont understand...should tell him what the depends are...just install those right?12:41
ubuntuOh, thought you didn't know it was me. :(12:41
flixorkkathman, both packages are in the output12:42
Mars^How can i check my SuperKaramba versipon?12:42
kkathmanflixor: look at what its asking for wrt dependencies, do the apt-cache search and install those first12:42
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naliothkkathman: he has used nonubuntu repos in the past, and his apt is now confused and wont let him install what he needs atm12:43
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naliothMars^: open a terminal and type "superkaramba --version"12:43
kkathmanahhh hmm...12:43
kkathmannalioth thanks12:43
kkathmandidnt catch that little tidbit12:43
naliothubotu: crimsun is SUPPOSED to help nobody12:43
ubotuokay, nalioth12:43
flixorthat was my initial idea but then it comes down to this 12:43
Joseph1He was helping me.12:43
Joseph1o.O12:43
kkathmanHe probably needs to set his repos the right way and do an apt-get update12:44
naliothJoseph1: crimsun is SUPPOSED to help nobody12:44
Joseph1He was helping me..12:44
Mars^Ha12:44
flixorkkathman, for libqt3-mt-dev in need to install libpng12-0-dev12:44
Mars^And how can i update superkaramba?12:44
Joseph1Hmm..12:44
Joseph1I'm probably wrong, but I would try apt-get update superkaramba.12:45
Joseph1o.O12:45
naliothJoseph1: we are all volunteers here12:45
Joseph1I'm probably wrong thoguh. :(12:45
kkathmanflixor...I think maybe you need to double check your repos, according to what nalioth said... then do a sudo apt-get update to get back in synch perhaps12:45
kkathmanI didnt know nalioth was helping you12:45
Joseph1Nalioth, yes well, I have to keep coming back here because of problems with Kubuntu.12:45
kkathmanand I missed that part12:45
flixorkee np 12:45
naliothkkathman: flixor: i recommend removing any non ubuntu repos from your sources.list and running "sudo apt-get -f install"12:45
kazumayge a dist-upgrade if you recently move to brezy12:46
flixorkee 12:46
Joseph1Nalioth, when I have a problem, I want to get it fixed right away. The last problem I had lasted for a LONG time, and no one fixed it until a LONG time.12:46
naliothJoseph1: crimsun will help you when he's able. just have patience12:46
Joseph1I was VERY impatient then.12:46
Joseph1I am.12:46
Joseph1I thought he didn't know who I was.12:46
Joseph1Because my name was ubuntu.12:46
flixoroke kazu 12:46
kazuok flixor12:46
kazuso an idea to solve my prob ? flixor 12:47
flixorwhat was our question because i was so busy solving my own little problem :)12:47
flixoroh yeah the hd 12:47
kazulol ok12:47
flixorwell maybe its a dma problem 12:47
kazumy problem was that my fat32 was slow12:47
flixoryes true 12:47
kazuok but the dma is the ame for all a hdd or just set for a partition on it ?12:48
flixori think it is set for a whole hd 12:48
flixornot just a partion 12:48
kazuok so if my ext3 s are working well so it shoul'nt be that non ?12:48
kkathmanexcellent suggestion nalioth :)12:49
flixoryou could do a test with hdparm and see what you get 12:49
kazuhow do i use hdparm ?12:49
kkathmanforgot you might have to fix the stuff thats there12:49
flixorwell i dont know but we can figure it out let me look 12:49
kazuok thks12:49
crimsunJoseph1: open a Konsole and type ''sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda''12:49
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crimsunJoseph1: paste the output onto kubuntu.pastebin12:50
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NukeFusionHello everyone12:51
kazuflixor i am following a tutos about hdparm on andesi.org12:51
crimsunJoseph1: then give me the url when you've done that12:51
Joseph1Whats the link for that again?12:52
kazui tell u in a few minutes if i am able to set it upby my self ok ?12:52
kazu( don't want to anny you for nothing )12:52
flixorkee i have this one allso at gentoo http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_hdparm_to_improve_IDE_device_performance12:52
crimsunJoseph1: append .com12:52
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kazuok thks flixor12:52
flixorlooks good about ide devices etc etc kazu 12:52
kazu^^ thks 12:52
flixorbut it could be simply something else 12:52
kazui look that and come back after12:52
flixorbut if not then you have learned about hdparm and so did i :)12:52
andregood morning everyone12:53
kazuok i test this way and come to see you after :)12:53
Joseph1wait..12:53
Joseph1you say its append.com?12:53
flixoryes but that do that tommorow because i am going to bed in 20 min 12:53
Joseph1!pastebin12:53
ubotupastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:53
crimsunJoseph1: kubuntu.pastebin.com12:53
kazusee u very soon flixor12:53
crimsunJoseph1: either one12:53
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NukeFusionI have some problems with running a Broadcom Wlan Card under Kubuntu. I have installed: Ndiswrapper 1.2 , Wlan-tools and so on. I can find some wlan networks but i can't log in and sufing around the web. 12:54
Joseph1http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/41278612:54
sorush20why does a font viewer take so long to load?12:54
andrehi12:54
andrehahaha12:54
flixoryou too kazu i am here tommorow same time 12:55
andreok how is eveyrone?12:55
flixorandre, do you have acces to those other wlan's12:55
flixorehm nevermind i need to go to bed andre 12:56
flixorlaters everybody 12:56
flixor-sleepingand thanks for the help nalioth and kkathman 12:56
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crimsunJoseph1: ''sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt && sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash && sudo grub-install /dev/hda''12:56
naliothflixor-sleeping: any time12:57
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shrinky_how do i look at processes12:57
Joseph1Alright.12:57
Joseph1Done. :)12:57
shrinky_or programs that are running12:57
crimsunJoseph1: now ''sudo update-grub''12:57
shrinky_like the Task Manager in Windows12:57
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Joseph1Can I copy and paste what it says?12:57
Joseph1Its not long, I promise.12:58
crimsunuse kubuntu.pastebin12:58
Joseph1Why though?12:58
Joseph1Its not big. o.O12:58
jsubl2Don't flood the channel: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com 12:58
Joseph1http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/41279312:58
Joseph1But its not flooding.12:58
Joseph1It probably wouldn't evenb e one line. o.O12:58
crimsunJoseph1: which command gives you that error?12:59
Joseph1sudo update-grub12:59
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crimsunJoseph1: ok, not an issue01:00
crimsunJoseph1: ''sync''01:00
Joseph1Done.01:00
crimsunJoseph1: then press ctrl+d to log out01:00
Joseph1Shouldn't I..01:01
Joseph1Do that other command?01:01
crimsunwhich other command?01:01
crimsunupdate-grub is nonessential01:01
Joseph1sudo update-grub01:01
Joseph1Oh, alright.01:01
Joseph1OK.01:01
Joseph1BRB, then.01:01
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Mars_^Is there possibility to set Poland on Liquid weather?01:03
naliothMars_^: you'll need a poland weather stations ID, i would think01:04
treefrogdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted 01:04
treefrogdeb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse 01:04
treefrogdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe 01:04
treefrogjsubl2: Hi so have these repos been removed for good?? 01:04
naliothtreefrog: those are all valid01:04
treefrogdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted 01:04
treefrogdeb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse 01:04
treefrogdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe 01:05
treefrogsorry01:05
treefrogoops01:05
Mars_^nalioth, where can i find it?01:05
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JosephNope.01:05
treefroghttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic has not got them in its list.!! 01:05
JosephIt ddin't work.01:05
naliothMars_^: i'd assume you'd google for weather stations in poland01:06
Josephand CTRL + D01:06
Josephdidn't work.01:06
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JosephSo I just logged out and restarted it.01:06
crimsunJoseph: ctrl+d only logs you out of the chroot.01:06
Joseph-.-01:07
JosephSo log back into Ubuntu Live?01:07
crimsunJoseph: you're still responsible for logging out of the host KDE session and rebooting01:07
Joseph?01:07
JosephIt was Ubuntu01:07
JosephNot this version either.01:07
crimsundoesn't matter01:07
JosephWhats that mean? :S01:07
crimsunI told you log out of the chroot.01:07
treefrognalioth: am I going to muck things up if I use the sugested repos from source o matic? seveas stuff not included in that.01:08
JosephI think I did. o.O01:08
crimsunyou still had to reboot the machine afterward.01:08
JosephSo I do it again?01:08
JosephI did. o.O01:08
crimsundoes GRUB work?01:08
JosephNo. :(01:08
naliothtreefrog: idk what source-0-matic is01:08
naliothubotu: tell treefrog about sources01:08
crimsunJoseph: are you using anything like Symantec Ghost?01:08
JosephNope.01:08
JosephWell.01:09
JosephI am using.01:09
JosephNovell.01:09
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treefroghttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:09
JosephNovell Desktop management.01:09
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crimsunJoseph: that may be incompatible. Any way you can remove it?01:09
JosephSure.01:10
treefroghumm.. all very intersting.01:10
JosephBut I had it installed.01:10
JosephBefore I installed Kubuntu.01:10
JosephWhen it worked the first time I installed it.01:10
JosephIf that makes any sense.01:10
naliothtreefrog: that source-o-matic is confusing to me01:11
crimsunJoseph: so download a 5.10 live cd and repeat the steps we just did01:11
Mars^Ok i changed liquid weather location for poland but it still shows wellington :/01:11
naliothtreefrog: the list ubotu sent is good, just compare yours to it (country codes are ok in yours)01:11
Joseph:(01:12
JosephI will later. ><01:12
treefrogit is skye I'm after. if that helps you understand what I'm looking at this all for. 01:12
treefrogskype. oops01:12
naliothtreefrog: skype iirc is commercial01:13
naliothubotu: tell treefrog about skype01:13
Mars^Nice looks like there is onlu 0 outside :)01:13
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treefrogis there an alternative to skype. ?? ubuntu alternative??01:14
Mars^why not normal skupe?01:15
lexhiderwhere do I post kubuntu bugs, launchpad or bugzilla?01:15
naliothtreefrog: i'm not aware of any, perhaps ask in #ubuntu01:15
Mars^Ehh squares in spite of polish fonts in liquid weather any idea?01:16
naliothMars^: your system is not set up to handle the accented characters01:16
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treefrogK thanks nalioth .. I'll try setting up Skype first.. it is what I'm used to at the moment and all that.. 01:17
Mars^nalioth, polish fonts works everywhere but not in log in screen at the begining and in liquid weather01:18
naliothMars^: seems a liquid weather liability then01:19
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Mars^nalioth, what schould i do?01:20
naliothMars^: file a bug with the weather program writers or ubuntu if it's included with ubuntu01:21
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Mars^Maybe i will change liquid weather langueage to eng01:24
sorush20what would happen if the channel got more than 3000 users.. guys is there a comprehensive font manger around at all.. 01:24
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Mars_^How can i change language in liquid weather?01:32
naliothMars^: look in your preferences for it01:34
Mars_^Ok now i need nice notes theme01:35
Mars_^know something?01:39
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Marsknow any nice rss reader theme?01:46
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naliothrss reader theme?01:47
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Marsfor karamba01:48
naliothMars: i'm not much of a superkaramba/adesklets/gdesklets user01:49
Delvieni could never get adesklets to work01:50
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blarfwhere can I find the ppds that normally come with cups?02:04
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blarfanyone?02:09
blarfugh02:09
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jsubl2find /usr/share -name '*ppd'02:20
jsubl2blarf: that is for you the find command02:21
blarfjsubl2: ha, too bad you're wrong02:21
blarfthe driver is not installed02:21
jsubl2i ran the command and it works.. you just made my ignore list02:21
blarfjsubl2: too bad you're not parsing my question properly02:22
blarfbecause if you were fucking competent to read, you'd notice I said02:22
blarfdrivers that normally come with cups02:22
naliothblarf: please be polite02:22
blarfthe ESP drivers02:22
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naliothi hate rude people who curse02:22
stbainyes, they're even worse than rude people who don't curse02:23
jsubl2i hate rookies who correct old timers that know their stuff02:23
jsubl2when the old timer is right02:24
naliotheveryone is entitled to their beliefs02:24
jsubl2i was trying to teach him a command he could use02:24
jsubl2o well don't matter02:24
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JosephHello02:35
Josephis crimsun here?02:35
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JosephYes he is.02:35
JosephBut is he AFK?02:35
Hobbseeidle for 12 mins, so crimsun may be here02:37
JosephYay.02:38
JosephI just need him to give me some commands.02:38
JosephThats it. :)02:38
JosephI forgot them. ><02:38
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JosephBRB.02:38
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DelvienWhat is artsd?02:46
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jsubl2sound server daemon for kde02:51
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DelvienWhat Browser do you all use ?03:03
apokryphosKonqueror03:04
apokryphosOpera and Firefox on rare occassions03:04
jsubl2konqueror mostly occasionally firefox03:05
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naliothi use konqueror and galeon03:07
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sorush20is squid a web server?03:17
naliothsorush20: it is a proxy server03:18
naliothsorush20: a caching proxy server03:18
sophie_nalioth: i finalyy got breezy working fine after hoary update, i could not install nvidia driver and had to install from nvidia site03:18
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naliothsophie_: so are you running fine now, then?03:19
sophie_yep but for some reason it does not feel has snappy03:20
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sophie_nalioth: i mean kde 3.4.303:22
naliothsophie_: i believe 3.4.3 is beta03:22
sophie_nalioth: nope its officially realeased03:23
naliothsophie_: is it? /me doesnt keep up03:23
sophie_keep up? uptime?03:24
Knowerrorscan someone please send me a default kubuntu 5.10 kernel config file, getting ready to do my own kernel03:24
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naliothsophie_: i dont keep up with the latest things, i'm happy with older stable releases03:26
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sophie_nalioth: i should have never updated to breezy 03:28
naliothsophie_: oh?03:28
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icewti think you would have avoided many problems with a clean install03:30
sophie_icewt: but hoary seems much faster for some reason also bootime is slower now03:31
sophie_ok ill stop complening it does seem stable03:33
icewtoh. i can't really say much about that because i went from ubuntu -> kubuntu when going from hoary -> breezy . except that kde works much faster for me than gnome used to.03:33
sophie_even tab completion in console seems slower when not even starting x03:34
jsubl2do a clean install and report back if it fixes your problems03:37
sophie_jsubl2: ill try maybe this weekend after i back up03:43
sophie_jsubl2: can i resize partition with fdisk03:43
sophie_or parted 03:44
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BamaWOLFheh, kubuntu doesn't like the built in audio in my mac mini, and my iMic makes a static like noise with it03:45
naliothsophie_: what kind of partition?03:45
sophie_nalioth: ext303:48
naliothsophie_: q- or qt- parted from the livecd will probably work better03:48
naliothsophie_: cant manipulate a mounted partition03:49
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sophie_nalioth: tks ill try t repartition bCKUP AND  REINSTALL BREEZY03:59
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Sonny_Wertzikhello04:10
Sonny_Wertzikanyone here use kxdocker?04:10
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strike4ce!wlassistant04:13
ubotustrike4ce: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about04:13
strike4ceAnyone here have experience with Wlassistant?04:14
jsubl2you tried kwifiManager04:17
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HobartCan anyone point me in the right direction on what application I need to run to configure KDE / Kubuntu for a 1-button trackpad [ibook] ?04:24
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sophie_Hobart: have a look in xorg documentation for button simulation04:25
sophie_oops emulation04:25
strike4ceWhy doesnt kubuntu have a decent wireless manager?04:28
sophie_strike4ce: use can use kde wireless manager I was told it worked well04:29
Hobartstrike4ce -> I had to add a package I believe, but I'm running KWiFiManager on the ibook04:30
strike4cesophie_: where do you get kde wireless manager?04:30
sophie_strike4ce: use Kwifimanager04:31
strike4ceHobart: what package?04:31
Hobartstrike4ce -> not sure.  Let me look.04:32
strike4cesophie_: it only works on my home network.  I travel and I need a connection Kwifi doesnt work04:32
sophie_strike4ce: sudo apt-get install kwifimanager04:32
Hobartthere's a "kwifimanager"04:32
strike4cesophie_: I already have Kwifimanager04:32
sophie_strike4ce: its not working for u04:33
Hobartkwifimanager -> Settings -> Configuration manager gives me up to 4 different profiles04:33
HobartI just used it for the first time to get running in the coffeshop I'm at actually ^^04:33
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strike4ceHobart: It wouldnt work lastnight at my hotel04:34
Hobartyou went into configuration editor?04:34
Hobarterr, manager04:34
strike4ceHobart: It would work on windows though04:34
HobartI hit "autodetect" then "apply" and it picked up the coffeeshop wifi04:34
strike4ceKwifi04:35
Hobartautodetect for it to know that eth1 was the wifi mgr04:35
Hobartstrike4ce -> not the main kwifi , you have to choose from the menu first04:35
strike4ceWindows connected right away but Kwifi wouldnt work04:35
HobartYes, we've established that.  Moving forward towards getting your current configuration working...04:35
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strike4ceHobart: what do you mean main Kwifi there is only one in the menu04:36
HobartYou said that it works at home, so the car's definitely working...04:36
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HobartOpen up KwifiManager by double clicking it04:36
strike4cecar's?04:36
Hobartunder the Settings menu is a Configuration Editor that asks you to enter your pw 04:36
Hobarthave you gone there?04:36
HobartI meant "card's" up there04:36
strike4ceyes, im there04:37
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Sonny_Wertzikhello..is anyone in here?04:37
naliothhybrid_goth: you get lost?04:37
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Hobartstrike4ce -> hit autodetect so it knows what network interface to work with04:37
Hobartthen hit apply04:37
strike4ceok04:38
HobartI also hit Activate and Apply04:38
Sonny_Wertzikahhh...people....hello.04:38
hybrid_gothnalioth: no why limit my self to #ubuntu when i can help people in here04:38
strike4ceyea did that04:38
Hobartnow when you hit OK and are back in KWiFiManager - does it see the new network?04:38
Sonny_Wertzikanyone in here use kxdocker?04:38
strike4ceIm at home and I only have one network04:38
kdudeUbuntu 5.10 rocks!!04:39
Hobartah, well, I guess you'll have to try it on the road or a coffeshop04:39
kdudeAnybody here has Audigy 3 Value?04:39
strike4ceHobart: Ok so what you're saying is to go into config edit when I am using a new connection and hit config 2,3,4 etc.  And it will recognize it that way?04:40
Hobartstrike4ce -> one thing I've seen that's an issue , if your wifi setup has a "key", the app isn't smart enough to disable the key when scanning for open networks04:40
Hobartstrike4ce -> I don't know if it will automagically recognize it or if you will have to choose it from the menu04:40
Sonny_Wertzikkdude, i have a 2 vale is that close enough?04:40
strike4ceHobart: right now minw doesnt for that reason04:40
Hobartbut that should at least stop you from having to enter the password for each different location04:40
strike4ceHobart: its all open04:41
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kdudeSonny_Wertzik: yes..close enough..04:41
strike4ceHobart: no passwords04:42
Sonny_Wertzikwhat do you need to know?04:42
HobartI've generally had difficulty getting started on both the iBook and the x86 laptop I have Linux (CentOS) on with wifi ...04:42
Hobartbut on both of them I've eventually gotten it working.04:42
HobartThe x86 required ndiswrapper due to a proprietary Broadcom card :|04:42
kdudeSonny_Wertzik: Yu know in Windows there's lots of Env. sound effects, Room, Bathroom, Hall, etc.. Is there such a tool for Linux?04:42
kdudeoops.. I said 3? I mean 2 heheh! it was a typo... didn't even noticed it.04:43
Sonny_Wertzikkdude, ya i know what you mean...but i have never looked for that for linux...i think they are called soundfont in windows right?04:43
kdudeSonny_Wertzik: Nahhh.. soundfont is for musical instruments MIDI stuff.. I am talking about Suround Sound effects.04:44
strike4ceAnyone know about resolution issues with 15.4 inch wxga screens04:44
strike4ceon laptops and how to fix it04:45
Sonny_Wertzikkdude, ya...i still know what you mean hehe.....have you tried the creative web site...i dont think i saw that on their site though04:45
strike4ce!laptops04:45
ubotustrike4ce: What?04:45
kdudeSonny_Wertzik: They don't support Linux directly..only opensource community has developed stuff for it.04:46
strike4ce!laptop04:46
ubotulaptop is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam04:46
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Sonny_Wertzikkdude, ya u r right ...opensource....um i have never seen any sound effects for audigy...but there may be something similar...have you done a search in package manage for keywords?04:47
kdudeSonny_Wertzik: Yeah...no luck though.04:48
Hobartstrike4ce -> Hmmm, check this out:04:49
Hobartjon@chiriri:/var$ iwlist eth1 scanning04:49
Hobarteth1      Failed to read scan data : Operation not supported04:49
HobartSeems the wifi chipset drivers people have been able to reverse haven't yet included the scanning bit04:49
Hobarts04:49
Sonny_Wertzikkdude, ya ...sorry ....but maybe try the alsa site tho04:49
Hobart(for some)04:49
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kdudeSonny_Wertzik: That sounds good.. will do..04:50
Sonny_Wertzikkdude, i think its called alsa project when you google it04:50
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kdudeSonny_Wertzik: cool. thanks Son'04:52
Sonny_Wertzikkdude,  yw04:53
Sonny_Wertzikanyone in here use kxdocker?04:53
shrinkyjL[os] ``what program shows my system stats?104:57
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kdudeanybody here knows when linux plans to fully support NTFS?05:05
lexhiderkdude: I don't think it's likely to be anytime soon.05:06
kdudeargg...that sucks..05:07
kdudeanybody here can recommend  to me a good open-source enterprise groupware that also works on Windows? (not web-based).05:08
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kdudehey guys how do you register a nick.05:23
kdude!register05:23
uboturumour has it, register is type /msg nickserv help register05:23
manveru^^05:23
nyarltepsup fellas05:23
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manveruhey nyarltep05:24
nyarltepkubuntu was a sanp to set up05:24
nyarltepeven with this usb wifi device05:24
strike4ce!dell05:24
ubotustrike4ce: I don't know, could you explain it?05:24
FluffelsAnybody seen breezy not recovering from hibernate >?? I'm running on an IBM T41 ?05:24
strike4ce!inspiron05:24
ubotuI haven't a clue, strike4ce05:24
strike4ce!860005:24
ubotustrike4ce: I don't know, could you explain it?05:24
strike4ce!resolution05:25
ubotuI guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:25
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manveruFluffels: T41 - isn't that a thinkpad?05:25
FluffelsYes05:25
Fluffelsit is05:25
bjvhow do i call the built-in kernel hibernate function with kubuntu?05:26
manveruFluffels: they perform well with acpi...05:26
bjvi keep reading stuff in my google searches on how people have hibernate 'just work' with their breezy laptops05:26
manveruyeap05:26
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manveruyou've got a nice small KLaptop icon in your kicker05:26
crimsunbjv: did you configure it in KDE's control center?05:26
FluffelsI know, I use to run hoary , all worked well now after the upgrade to breezy the machine hangs during resume05:27
FluffelsYes..05:27
manveruwell, upgrading is a different case05:27
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FluffelsIt hibernates OK, resuming is the problem - have to hard reset05:27
Fluffels(Well it was a fresh install)05:27
Fluffels:-)05:27
manveru^^05:27
manveruk then05:27
Fluffels""upgrade "05:27
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bjvwhere in the kcontrol menus is it?05:28
LeeJunFanFluffels: did you upgrade to the new 2.6.12 kern?05:28
FluffelsYes05:28
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manverubjv: in energy-control or however it's called in english05:28
FluffelsOut of the box (cd 5.10) install 05:28
LeeJunFanFluffels: might be the acpi implementation in the kernel changed, you may need to setup grub to give bootparams. Do you have kernel source installed?05:29
manverubjv: and there are seperate menus for sony and ibm-thinkpads05:29
FluffelsNope...05:29
bjvmanveru: yeah, i have 'power control' -> 'battery status'05:29
FluffelsThat might be it... 05:29
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LeeJunFanFluffels: well, if you install kernel source in the src directory check out Documentation dir, look for kernel-paramaters.txt or something like that - there you will see a lot of acpi options, I think s3_bios or something like that is what you want.05:30
manverubjv: there is stuff for about everyting - just go through the menus05:30
FluffelsI have Grub x twixe05:30
Fluffelscould that be part of the prob ?05:30
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FluffelsI still have Hoary... installed Grub on /dev/hda7 did not want to boot there...05:30
bjvmanveru: yeah, it seems to be all active, but when i do suspend it doesnt turn off all the way. :\05:31
FluffelsSo chainloader +1 to new grub05:31
endo602how can i get multiple smb shares to mnt in fstab?05:31
manverubjv: that heavily depends on the notbook - everyone has a different acpi-implementation05:31
manverubjv: suspend is known to be unstable - that's why it's off per default05:32
LeeJunFanFluffels: check your /boot/grub/menu.lst and see if you have a resume= line for your kernel also.05:34
manveruon my laptop suspend to ram doesn't work as well... just crashes...05:34
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endo602?05:35
manveru!05:35
ubotumanveru: I don't know, could you explain it?05:35
manveru^^05:35
endo602how can i mount multiple samba shares in fstab?05:36
endo602!samba 05:36
ubotusamba is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently05:36
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bjvmanveru: ah, well i use a desktop and use apm=on acpi=off with my kernel05:40
bjvmanveru: im looking into just compiling my first new kernel with the software suspend patches/acpi/etc.05:41
kdude!linux05:41
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux05:41
kdude!ubuntu05:42
ubotuwell, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards05:42
kdude!hello05:42
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, kdude05:42
LeeJunFanTo get more info on getting software suspend to work check here: http://www.suspend2.net/HOWTO-5.html, it's not ubuntu specific, but the basics are still the same, And really it depends a lot on your hardware whether susp to disk or ram will work at all.05:42
kdude!hi05:42
ubotuhi!05:42
kdude!hola05:42
ubotukdude: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!05:42
kdude!piss off05:42
ubotuI don't know, kdude05:42
nalioth!botabuse05:43
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.05:43
kdudehey I typed in !liinux in #debian-bots and it says  rumour has it that linux is closed.. what kinda rumour is that?05:45
naliothkdude: dont listen to strange bots05:45
kdudenalioth: heheh! i know ..my heart sanked for a while. Linux can never die..(I hope).05:46
LeeJunFanno, we are just closed on mondays :)05:47
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wahibhello all05:47
DelvienHey guys whats the command to see what your CPU temp is at?05:47
Delvienhey wahib05:47
wahibanybody with that UniChrome Pro IGP? :D so painful 05:47
wahibI don't know why there are no Kubuntu package for it, supposed to be open drivers, perhaps?05:48
endo602can someone please help me with mount samba shares (multiple)?05:49
endo602!nfs05:49
ubotuwell, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.05:49
FluffelsDelvien try "cat /proc/ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature05:51
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Fluffelsoops should only be  cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature05:51
kdude!smbmount05:51
ubotukdude: What?05:51
Fluffelscat /proc/cpuinfo gives noce stats as weel05:51
kdude!smb05:51
ubotukdude: No idea05:51
kdude!mount05:51
ubotuhmm... mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives05:51
kdude!sambamount05:52
ubotuNo idea, kdude05:52
FluffelsDelvien, does it work ?05:52
DelvienFluffels i need one specifically for CPU temp05:53
Fluffels"cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature" gives me my CPU temp...05:53
Fluffelsor not /05:53
Fluffels?05:53
Delvienni file or dir..05:54
Delvienlol05:54
naliothDelvien: you'll need "lm_sensors" installed05:54
Delviennalioth o 05:54
Delvienstill says no such file or dir05:55
naliothDelvien: in a console, "apt-cache search sensor"05:56
Delvienwhat am i looking for?05:57
manverulm-sensors05:58
Delvieni have it, just installed, but doing the cat for the temp still says no such file or dir05:58
Delvienwould i have to restart x?05:59
naliothFluffels: what sensor pkg do you have installed?05:59
manveruthis is created by the acpi-module of the kernel, that's why it is in proc05:59
naliothDelvien: no you dont05:59
Fluffelslet me check05:59
Delvienwhats the command to detect sensors for lm-sensors05:59
naliothDelvien: if you install 'conky' it uses lm-sensors06:00
FluffelsI do not have lm_sensors06:00
Fluffelshmmm06:00
Delvienlol what do you have 06:01
Fluffelsjustthe libsensors3 :  library to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors06:01
FluffelsLm-sensors is a hardware health monitoring package for Linux. It allows you to access information from temperature, voltage, and fan speed sensors. It works with most newer systems.06:01
FluffelsThis package contains a shared library for querying lm-sensors.06:01
FluffelsHomepage: http://www.lm-sensors.nu06:01
FluffelsI have klaptop... and acpi 06:02
Fluffelsmaybe acpi uses liblmsensors ?06:02
Fluffels!acpi06:03
ubotuNot a clue, Fluffels06:03
Fluffelsshame ...06:03
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nalioth!info acpi06:04
ubotuacpi: (displays information on ACPI devices), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.09-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 72 kB06:04
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Delvienoy, i just want to see my CPU temp with my karamba , but need cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature to work first06:05
lascari get this error message when i want to update my sources.list: E: Type '' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list06:05
naliothlascar: edit your sources.list06:06
lascari can't find this space in my source06:06
lascartried06:06
naliothlascar: what is on line 1?06:06
Knowerrorsanybody here use xawtv06:06
lascari'm using openoffice btw since kate crashed06:06
lascar"## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the"06:07
naliothlascar: make very sure it saves as a text file06:07
naliothlascar: can you paste your sources.list ?06:07
nalioth!paste06:07
ubotumethinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text06:07
lascarnalioth: give me a sec06:08
endo602how can i make it that konq uses double click instead of single?06:08
lascardone06:08
lascarendo602: go to control center06:09
lascarthen peripherals06:09
naliothlascar: got a URL for us?06:09
lascarthen mouse06:09
endo602ok06:10
lascarnalioth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/391906:10
endo602lascar got it thanks06:10
lascaryour welcome06:10
endo602any clue on how i can disable my caps lock key?06:10
lascar...press it?06:11
naliothlascar: delete the whole top line06:11
lascarall of it nalioth?06:11
endo602?06:11
endo602i want to make sure that if i press it 06:11
endo602it wont do anything06:11
endo602or it will act like a shift key06:11
naliothlascar: make the top line the first line beginning with "deb http"06:12
lascardone06:12
lascarsave and update?06:12
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lascarcurses, i'm still getting the same error06:13
endo602damn caps stil working06:13
endo602this is annoying06:13
lascarendo602: describe the problem06:14
endo602i have a laptop06:14
endo602and the keyboard is small06:14
endo602everytime i type06:14
lascarwouldn't be a vaio or a thinkpad would it?06:14
endo602inope06:14
lascarok, go on06:14
Delvienwhat kind of laptop06:15
lascarnalioth, the error message is just about the same, save ' ' has been replaced with 'deb'06:15
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Delviennalioth can ACPI read the temp ? i know gnome reads it with an applet , so i know something on my machine reads it06:15
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naliothDelvien: i'm not sure how one reads temps06:16
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naliothlascar: change the name of yours to sources.list.bak and use the one from here, please06:17
nalioth!sources06:17
nalioth!+sources06:17
ubotuHow to add repositories:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:17
lascarshould i copy Kaarsemaker's sources?06:20
Delviencat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature did it06:21
naliothlascar: the sources in the link reflecting your version will do06:21
naliothlascar: there is a download link06:21
LeeJunFanI thought proc/acpi was deprecated to have everything in /sys but damned if I can find thermal info there.06:22
lascarand by version you mean hoary/breezy?06:22
naliothlascar: yes06:23
Delvienany idea on how to make a Karamba to update a specific line ever couple seconds06:29
lascarnothing's working...06:31
naliothDelvien: look in the configuration file06:31
naliothlascar: i can divine many meanings from "nothings working"06:32
lascar;), I'm still at the drawing board06:32
Delviennalioth im editing the karamba with kate06:32
Delviennalioth i want to know the code, because there are only 2 lines that need it06:33
naliothDelvien: visit the superkarambe site and see the faq06:33
Delviennalioth lol there is only 3 FAWs06:34
kkathmanHowdy all :)06:34
Delviennalioth FAQs06:34
naliothkkathman: good you're here. you can help lascar . lascar is replacing his sources.list with the one from !sources06:35
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lascar!sources06:36
FluffelsDelvien Glad to see its working !06:38
FluffelsDelvien goos to see its working06:38
FluffelsDelvien Cool that it works!06:39
FluffelsDelvien, cool!06:39
FluffelsGlad to see its working !06:39
naliothFluffels: what is that you are doing?06:40
FluffelsWith what... ?06:40
Delvienyeah really :)06:40
naliothcolors dude06:40
FluffelsI was trying to help D getting temp...06:40
lascaridentify06:40
FluffelsColors ?06:40
DelvienFluffels know the code to repeat a line at a regular interval of a Superkaramba06:41
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FluffelsCut and Paste error ...06:42
Delvienme?06:43
lascarkkathman: any ideas?06:43
FluffelsI was pasting a name and it switched to rich text mode... Kopete ...06:44
kkathmansorry I was away shortly06:46
kkathmanone sec.06:46
kkathmanlet me catch up lascar :)06:46
lascarno prob06:47
kkathmanok..lascar you need to replace sources.list is that right?06:47
lascaryeah06:47
kkathmanat least thats what I see :)06:47
lascarand it's always worked before06:47
kkathmanlascar look at this first ok:06:48
kkathman!repos06:48
kkathman!tell lascar about repos06:48
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lascar...?06:48
kkathmanlascar you need to look at the PM from ubotu :)06:48
lascarhaven't gotten one yet06:49
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kkathman!repos06:49
kkathmanhmm ok06:49
billytwowillyhow do I get apt to ignore broken packages?06:49
kkathmanwell lascar:    http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) 06:50
kkathmanyou need to look at that, then edit your /etc/apt/sources.list06:50
kkathmanlascar: you can use kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list  for instance to make your copy look like the breezy repos.06:51
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LeeJunFanbillytwowilly: echo packagename hold | dpkg --set-selections06:52
billytwowillyLeeJunFan: you want me to run that?06:53
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LeeJunFanbillytwowilly: that's how to set a package on hold so it won't be updated06:53
kkathmanLeeJunFan: Good to see you again around here :)06:53
LeeJunFankkathman: yeah, it's been a while eh?06:53
Delvienmy cpu runs hot under linux ... the fan never kicks on high06:53
lascarhow can i trust any of the repositories in pastebin?06:54
strike4ceAnyone using a 15.4 laptop?06:54
kkathmanbut always good to see good friends :)06:54
LeeJunFanDelvien: how hot?06:54
billytwowillyLeeJunFan: it's a broken package.06:54
DelvienLEEJUNFAN 46 celcius06:54
billytwowillyThere is nothing that will fix it.06:54
kkathmanyikes!06:54
lascarwow06:54
billytwowillyI just need apt to stop being a dick and continue about its business around the pakcage06:54
billytwowillyand that didn't do that.. thanks for the tip though.06:54
LeeJunFanMine's almost at a constant 40C.06:54
lascarkkathman: how can i trust any of the repositories on pastebin?06:55
DelvienLeejunfan mine runs 29 celcius under windows,06:55
DelvienLeejunfan you know the command for the current CPU speed?06:55
kkathmanlascar, I'll paste mine for you, but they'll be exactly like most of the Breezy examples I imagine :)06:55
LeeJunFanbillytwowilly: you substituted the packagename? if you run dpkg --get-selections you'll see how everything is set now.06:55
lascarok06:56
kkathmanlascar: basically everything should have "breezy" in it06:56
LeeJunFanDelvien: what performance profile are you running?06:56
kkathmanbut if you want I'll paste mine for you :)06:56
lascargo ahead and paste yours06:56
LeeJunFanDelvien: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq06:57
billytwowillyLeeJunFan: it's set to hold. It's just if I do an apt-get install kpilot or anything else I get the message to fix the broken package.06:57
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billytwowillyI don't want that. I know apt thinks it's broken, but it's not it's just a marillat package.06:57
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lascarkkathman i'm assuming you're running breezy.  Is that right?06:57
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billytwowillythe package works, I just want apt to STFU about it and let me install things;)06:57
kkathmanlascar, yes06:58
LeeJunFanbillytwowilly: what about telling apt to --force even though it bitches?06:58
billytwowillyapt-get install --force kpilot06:58
billytwowillyLeeJunFan: ^06:58
billytwowillygAH06:58
DelvienLeejunfan hey i got a Q , in Klaptop when you tell it to CPU throttle 00% what exactly does that mean06:58
billytwowillyE: Command line option --force is not understood06:59
LeeJunFanDelvien: that means to run full speed, don't throttle back any %.06:59
Delvienwhat about 50%06:59
LeeJunFanDelvien: throttle probably isn't what you really want anyway - the big thing is to have your profile set to something like ondemand.07:00
LeeJunFanDelvien: that means to slow down by 50%.07:00
kkathmanlascar:  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/41298607:01
Delvienleejunfan reason why i ask is because my CPU is running at 85+ % at all times07:01
lascarnow, what to do if i'm running hoary?07:01
lascarjust rename?07:01
LeeJunFanDelvien: did you cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq07:01
kkathmanlascar: are you running hoary?07:01
lascarindeed07:01
lascarbut an upgrade wouldn't hurt07:02
kkathmanlascar...ok, then change every time your see "breezy" to "hoary"07:02
lascarin fact, i would've been running breezy if i hadn't run into prior complications07:02
lascarok07:02
DelvienLeejunfan it says its running at 1600000 which is right, but thats full speed, 07:02
lascarbut kkathman, what if i want to upgrade?07:02
kkathmanlascar: Well you upgrade if you have a really stable hoary I suppose.07:03
LeeJunFanDelvien: in kcontrol set your profiles to ondemand.07:03
LeeJunFanDelvien: or userspace - in either case it should only ramp your CPU up when it needs to.07:03
kkathmanlascar: then go here and it will tell you exactly what to do: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes07:03
lascarkkathman: ?07:03
Delvienleejunfan i find the Klaptop to be very buggy, ir scales, but it doesnt take much to make it go full speed07:03
Delvienit scales**07:04
LeeJunFanDelvien: I don't let klaptop do much of that, if you set your profile to be one of those I listed then it's up to the kernel to do the speed control.07:04
Delvienit just kicked my fan on high..07:05
Delvienwell bios did07:05
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Delvienmy GPU runs at full speed.. any way i can lower it07:05
LeeJunFanDelvien: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor    --- and tell me what it is.07:06
Delvienondemand07:06
LeeJunFandid you just change all that in kcontrol then?07:06
kkathmanLeeJunFan: How can I set up a monitor for say, the temperature of my CPU?  I'd like to monitor that occasionally.07:06
Delvienit was on ondemand before07:06
LeeJunFankkathman: I use gkrellm.07:06
kkathmanahh ok dont I have to configure it tho07:07
Delvienkkathman depends on what CPU /make you have07:07
lascarkkathman: thanx a million for your help07:07
lascaryou too nalioth07:07
kkathmannp Lascar07:07
kkathmanLeeJunFan: Sempron 250007:07
LeeJunFanDelvien: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies07:07
Delvienkkathman i use /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature07:07
LeeJunFankkathman: it should just work with that.07:07
Delvien1600000 1333000 1067000 80000007:08
LeeJunFanand that's what gkrellm uses too.07:08
kkathmanI'll look for that07:08
LeeJunFanand cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq still shows 1600000?07:08
DelvienLEEJUNFAN but different makes put it in THM0 and etc07:08
strike4ceAnyone here use the 855resolution app?07:08
Delvienyes but my CPU usage is 90% for some reason07:09
Delvienso it would be 1600 anyway07:09
LeeJunFanDelvien: true, that's actually what my Athlon64 uses.07:09
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LeeJunFanDelvien: that's because you turned on the throttling, so it basically sees 50% used for doing nothing.07:09
LeeJunFanDelvien: set your throttle to 0, I never use that. important thing is to have your profile be ondemand.07:10
soundmaster80just wondering if anyone in here uses kde 3.5 beta 2, and if so what's your opinion so far07:10
kkathmanwhew!! My processor runs hot too :(07:10
LeeJunFansoundmaster80: my opinion was to re-install stable.07:10
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kkathmanthat cant be good!07:10
kkathman141.8F07:10
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soundmaster80ah, that bad ??07:10
Delviennow its staying at 100% and 98%07:11
LeeJunFankkathman: wow, that is warm. Mine is 104F, 40C.07:11
strike4ceIm just wondering if it willl affect my win xp settings since it patches only the RAM version of the video bios07:11
LeeJunFanDelvien: run top from a cmdline and see if you have a process running away.07:11
kkathmanI07:12
kkathmanI'm putting an external fan on it now07:12
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DelvienLeejunfan how do i do that? never did runaway process catcher07:12
Delvienit has a sad face !07:13
LeeJunFanDelvien: just open a shell, and type 'top' [enter] . Whatever is at the top is using the most CPU.07:13
Delvienuh os07:13
Delvienkded?07:13
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LeeJunFanDelvien: under %cpu does it say a high percentage?07:14
Delvienkicker07:14
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Delvienkicker takes 8%07:15
DelvienXorg goes up to 22 % for about 1 second07:15
LeeJunFanThat's nothing, we'd be looking for something taking over 60% at least.07:15
Delviennothing is taking that much07:15
Delvienmost running is like 8 % one07:15
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Delvienwhat could be running thats taking 100%07:17
LeeJunFanyou sure you set the throttling in the right spot to 0%? they should all be, but especially under default power profiles.07:17
Delvienwell 00%..07:17
DelvienA program called 'kwebdesktop' is slowing down the others on your machine. It may have a bug that is causing this, or it may just be busy.07:17
Delvien just got a message07:17
Delvienwhat the hell is kdwebdesktop07:17
LeeJunFanDelvien: a program that updates your background from the internet.07:18
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Delviendo i have a virus or something? this is fishy07:19
LeeJunFanDelvien: it probably just jumped for a second. I think the real problem is throttling, but I don't have throttling on this current laptop I'm working on, so I can't remember where the throttle info is - shoudl be in same dir as other stuff. /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/07:19
LeeJunFanit's safe to cat anything in that dir to see what it contains.07:19
kkathmanYay, external fan is doing a good job :)  Dropped 9 degrees in just a few mins.07:20
LeeJunFankkathman: what about cleaning out your internal fans?07:20
kkathmanLeeJunFan: probably should do that, Its about time...I do that once a month...07:20
LeeJunFankkathman: I have 4 dogs here, so I have to clean mine bi-weekly I think. hehe07:20
kkathmanLeeJunFan: My computer is on the floor, carpet, under my desk, so not the best circulation07:21
Delvienwhats scary is my CPU is now readiny 100%all the time...07:21
LeeJunFankkathman: those dogs are just lucky that digging holes is harder work than blowing out my fans. hehe07:21
kkathmanOnly have one fan too07:21
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LeeJunFanDelvien: throttling will do that, because while your clock rate is at 1600000 throttling is only letting your programs use a small percentage of that. It really screws with crap. Is there a switch to turn throttle off alltogether?07:22
Delvienin klaptop  , let me see07:23
strike4ce!855resolution07:23
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, strike4ce07:23
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Delvienshut it all off in KLAPTOP bt still 100%07:23
Delviengnome ran throttling so much better, klaptop is crap07:24
LeeJunFanDelvien: ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ and look for files to do with throttling, I think there's just 1 and if you cat it it will show you different levels and an asterik next to the one yours is set at now.07:25
LeeJunFanI've never had a problem with klaptop.07:25
LeeJunFanDelvien: neither of them actually do the throttling, they just configure the kernel on how to do it.07:25
kkathmanHmmm I may need to think about another fan. All I really have in this little box was the fan on the power supply07:27
Delviendm@dmlinux:~$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold  == 8007:27
kkathmanI opened up the side, running the fan now, just to see how cool I could get it07:28
LeeJunFanDelvien: nope, that's just telling you that when you are at a low cpu clockrate and your use gets over 80% it will bump up to next higher clockrate.07:28
Delvienaye07:28
Delvieni dont find anything interesting in there , notin useful anyway07:29
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kkathmanalso wonder why knotify runs07:30
LeeJunFancat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling07:30
DelvienLeejunfan i just did that , what do you want to know07:31
LeeJunFanwhat one has the mark by it?07:31
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DelvienT0 00%07:31
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LeeJunFanwhat about cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/power07:32
DelvienC207:32
Delvien *C2:                  type[C2]  promotion[C3]  demotion[C1]  latency[001]  usage[ 03336650] 07:33
LeeJunFanDelvien: I think a reboot might be in order. I have no idea why you are lusing 100% cpu at this point.07:33
Delvienlol okie07:33
Delvienit does this sometimes, but only in KDE07:33
Delvienill brb07:34
kkathmanLeeJunFan: I think I've hit a plateau at 118.4 .. doesnt seem to be moving much07:39
kkathmanguess this processor just runs a little warm07:39
LeeJunFankkathman: what processor you have again?07:39
kkathmanAMD Sempron 2500+07:39
LeeJunFanmy amd athlon 3400 is only running at 104.07:40
soundmaster80i'm curious, how do i add something to the media menu07:40
kkathmanI guess I need a better fan07:40
soundmaster80i have a mounted drive i want to show up in storage media07:41
kkathmanfunny its going back up now...with an ext fan right on it :(07:41
LeeJunFansoundmaster80: it needs to be mounted to a dir inside /media dir.07:41
soundmaster80did that...not there07:41
soundmaster80"/media/server0"07:41
strike4ceWhy cant I get 1280x800 resolution?07:42
LeeJunFansoundmaster80: I dunno, I think it only shows external drives and such, removeable media.07:43
strike4ceI only have 1280x768 on a 15.4inch monitor.  It should be set at 1280x80007:43
kkathmanstrike4ce: does your monitor support it?07:43
kkathmanthat doesnt sound like a 1.3333 :  1 ratio07:44
strike4cekkathman: Yes it should be 1280x800 and it even shows it that way in the xorg file but its not 1280x80007:44
strike4cekkathman: my laptop is wxga 15.4 inch07:45
kkathmanstrike4ce: mine is 1280 x 102407:45
kkathmanahh ok07:45
strike4cekkathman: what size 15.4?07:46
kkathmanI have no idea07:46
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Delvienhey leejunfan figured out what it was07:46
strike4ceHow do I set my resolution to 1280x800?07:46
LeeJunFanDelvien: don't hold me in suspense. I'm tired :)07:47
kkathmanstrike4ce: if you can, it would be through the Configure Desktop07:47
strike4ceIt shows 1280x800 in the script but in the display settings it only goes as high as 1280x76807:47
DelvienLeejunfan i was modding  a Superkaramba for system monitors, and i had one of the intervals set to 1, which was every second check. so it was taking all my processing power07:47
strike4cekkathman: where is that?07:47
kkathmanBut when you install, I think its part of your xorg.07:47
Delviennow im down to 30%07:47
LeeJunFanDelvien: ah, yep.07:48
Delviendamn you code !07:48
kkathmanstrike4ce: right click your desktop choose configure desktop and then choose display07:48
LeeJunFanwell, I gotta get some sleep. Later everyone.07:48
strike4cekkathman:  in display settings it still shows 1280x768.  i called Dell they said its 1280x80007:50
kkathmanahh pl07:50
kkathmanoops ok07:50
Delviencrap07:50
Delvienwhat runs /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu007:51
Delvienbecause now there is nothing in tehre07:51
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Delvienand acpi0 is empty too07:51
kkathmanstrike4ce: check your xorg.conf file07:52
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kkathmanshould be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:52
kkathmanlook under the Monitor section07:52
Delviento show hidden files cnrtl h?07:52
insanekaneanyone know why XIM doesn't work on Kubuntu Breezy ?07:52
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kkathmanYou'll need to know some specifics to configure it07:52
kkathmanTheres another section on Screen resolution I think07:53
kkathmanlemme check07:53
strike4cekkathman: yea, it shows 1280x800, which is correct.  It must be the driver.07:53
insanekanewant to reconfigure the resolution of your display ?07:53
strike4ceinsanekane: yes07:54
insanekaneit could also possibly be due to the refresh rates ... lower refresh rates may not allow higher resolutions07:54
insanekaneyou should try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-corg'07:54
kkathmanall good catch insanekane  :)07:55
kkathmannice :)07:55
insanekane?07:55
kkathmanI meant...AHHH good catch :)07:55
insanekanekkathman: i still don't understand what you mean :)07:55
kkathmanlol nm...it was a compliment07:56
strike4ceIs that going to screw up my settings?  I have an ati card using xorg driver and changed "ATI" to fglrx.  If I reconfigure will it cause me problems?07:56
insanekanekkathman: ah ok :)07:56
insanekanestrike4ce: using the dpkg-reconfigure method is probably much easier than mucking abt with xserver config files07:56
strike4ceinsanekane: its a lcd laptop lower refresh rates dont matter07:56
insanekanestrike4ce: k07:57
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kkathmanhmmm I have to remember to like clear my konversation logs occasionally :)07:59
noirequuskkathman: cron job weekly08:03
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kkathmannoirequus: yah I need to learn cron :)08:04
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kkathmannalioth: why cant I just put in a command?  It seems it wants a "program" :(08:06
naliothkkathman: i had a 58mb log for #ubuntu when i looked a couple weeks ago08:06
naliothkkathman: cronjob a tar && gzip on your log file(s)08:07
naliothkkathman: litte more to it then that, of course08:07
kkathmanso do I have to script it?08:07
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naliotha script would probably allow greater freedom08:08
kkathmanyahh all I really wanna do is just run rm /home/kkathman/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/*08:09
kkathmanseems like I should be able to just set up a cron entry to run that command :(08:10
naliothkkathman: it's your box. i back my logs up08:10
insanekanekkathman: why not `your command here`08:10
kkathmaninsanekane: ??08:11
insanekanekkathman: err, sorry, wrong hint :)08:11
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kkathmanwell I guess I dont get the shell scripting08:22
kkathmanI thought all you had to do was create a file that had commands in it, write that file out, to your home directory, chmod +x and then type the script name :(08:23
naliothkkathman: you must make it executable (chmod +x filename)08:25
kkathmansee above08:25
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kkathmanso I went into kate, typed my command. followed by an echo statement, saved the file as "konvkill"08:26
naliothkkathman: must start his script with #!/bin/bash08:26
kkathmanchmodded it +x08:26
kkathmanawwww why??08:26
kkathmandarn08:26
kkathmanwell so much for my idea08:26
kkathmanI was gonna create a file to run the commands08:27
kkathmanthen cron the script08:27
naliothso do it08:28
kkathmancant08:28
kkathmancuz08:28
kkathmankcron cant run /bin/bash/konvkill only konvkill08:28
kkathmanbut I guess I could put the command in /bin/bash eh?08:28
naliothname the script "konvkill"08:28
kkathmanI did08:29
naliothkkathman: dont make me put the professor hat on, i'm watching Revenge Of The Sith, and i might get nasty08:29
kkathmanok08:29
kkathmansigh08:29
kkathmanI did create a file called "konvkill", but in kcron, you can only run a "command", not a command-line command08:30
kkathmanyou are right that if you precede the filename with /bin/bash  it works08:31
kkathmanbut you cant do that in kcron :(08:31
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naliothkkathman: you can do it in cron, alsso08:32
naliothkkathman: anything you make should go in /usr/local/  anyway08:34
kkathmanok08:34
kkathmanwell08:34
insanekaneanyone here got XIM with scim working on kubuntu breezy ?08:36
kkathmannalioth: so I put in the program:  /bin/bash /usr/local/konvkill08:38
kkathmanwe'll see on Friday if that worked :)08:39
naliothkkathman: no08:39
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naliothopen  a text editor08:40
naliothline 1 >> #!/bin/bash08:40
naliothline 2 >> rm /home/kkathman/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/*08:41
naliothput your echo statement where it belongs08:41
kkathmanyah08:41
naliothsave the file as konvkill08:41
naliothchmod +x konvkill08:41
kkathmanwhy not just one line with the /bin/bash in frontt08:41
naliothkkathman: because bash scripts look for #!/bin/bash08:42
kkathmanahh ok08:42
kkathmangood point for me to remember :)08:42
naliothmv konvkill to /usr/local/bin/08:42
naliothedit cron accordingly08:42
naliothkkathman: there are also #!/usr/bin/perl and #!/usr/bin/python scripts (and others)08:43
naliothclear as mud?08:43
kkathmanyes...well I actually did all that except for putting the bin/bash on a sep line08:44
naliothkkathman: your konvkill at this point is a program taht can be run anytime anywhere08:44
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naliothhow does it feel to be a program developer?08:44
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kkathmanone small problem08:46
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kkathmanwhen you put /usr/local/bin/konvkill in cron, it comes back and say "program is not executable"08:46
naliothkkathman: then you havent chmod +x'd it08:46
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kkathmanhmm one sec...though I did08:46
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kkathmanoops08:47
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kkathmanI did it..but not in usr bin08:48
naliothtake the one out of /usr/bin08:48
kkathmanyep08:48
kkathmanwell, we'll see :)08:49
kkathmanbut thats an exercise I have yet to do08:49
kkathmanso thanx for the help...very nice :)08:49
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ganymedhallo.08:52
ganymedmy user administration doesn't work anymore. i am asked to give my passwd, but nothing happens. i am still in the normal user mode. any ideas? (kubuntu breezy)08:53
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kkathmanganymed: you mean it doesnt work in breezy vs working in hoary?08:55
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ganymedno. it has worked in breezy all the time. then i changed to normal root passwd. from then on it worked just from time to time. then i disabled the root passwd again, but it still doesn't work08:58
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DelvienOMG how do i get rid of this ANNOYING beep when i backspace too far.. OMG !!09:02
Delviendrives me fricken crazy09:02
kkathmanganymed: interesting, because admin mode doesnt work period through the KDE screens..its a bug :)09:03
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ChousukeDelvien: Can't remember the setting, but... rmmod pcspkr?09:04
Chousukeor alternatively open the case and snap the wire that goes to the pc speaker.09:05
ganymedand how to fix it?09:06
Delvienno no...09:06
DelvienHow do i get rid of the sound that goes off when i backspace too far?09:06
Delvienor hit the up arrow to repeat a command in konsole09:07
naliothChousuke: that's kind of destructive, when the speaker simply unplugs from the mobo, in most cases09:07
Chousukenalioth: That's being too soft.09:07
ganymedi have to go... so is there a way to fix it?09:08
ganymedok. have to go. i ll come back later...09:09
ganymedciao09:09
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kkathmanIm going to bed guyz...nighters09:10
jarlandcan anyone tell me why i cant enable my wireless network card? it says disabled, and if i endable it, it just disables again09:11
Delvienanyone know how to change cooling_mode?09:15
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Delvienwhat does the command echo do?09:20
naliothit echos echos echos echos echos echos09:21
nuk130nDelvien: man echo09:23
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Subvertirhi09:27
spiralhi09:27
Subvertirhttp://pastebin.com/413054 this is my sources.list, with an error I'm getting trying to install samba at the bottom, can anyone tell me what the problem is?09:28
Subvertirthe error is from 'apt-get install samba swat'09:29
_mindspinI'm haveing troubles with sound, soundserver crashes, its a known bug, but I'm kinda too stupid to "downgrade" artsd09:31
Subvertiryou have to force it to remove artsd in spite of it breaking dependencies, then install the old version09:32
Subvertir--force-depends I think09:32
_mindspinyes but where are the repos for those?09:32
Subvertirdunno, google09:32
_mindspinhaha09:32
naliothand remember, any time you --force anything, you may break your box09:33
crimsun_mindspin: #16650?09:33
_mindspinid did its mentioned as "beta1"09:33
Subvertirmy suggestion would be to just not use artsd09:33
Subvertirit sucks09:33
_mindspinand what else ?09:33
Subvertirjust use programs that access /dev/dsp09:33
crimsunSubvertir: that subverts dmix,dsnoop09:34
crimsunnot everyone has hardware natively capable of multiplexing streams09:34
Subvertireveryone can certainly afford it09:34
crimsunI beg to differ09:34
Subvertir$15 at wal-mart isn't going to break the bank09:35
crimsunand for the villages that don't have a proximal Wal-Mart?09:35
SubvertirI doubt they spend their day going, "DAMN! I wish I had multiplexing audio streams!"09:35
crimsunUbuntu isn't just for developed and developing nations09:35
crimsunno, but it's our job as developers to provide an adequate solution for common sound chipsets09:36
Subvertirit's not users' job to use it09:36
Subvertirhe's having issues with it and probably just wants to listen to mp3s09:36
crimsunof course, but what if he doesn't have hardware capable of multiplexing?09:37
_mindspinok, besides politics, yes, I only wann alisten to mp3 s and stuff09:37
crimsun_mindspin: you didn't answer my question...09:37
_mindspinand when I try to remove artsd I am asked if I also wanna remove nearly anything sound related in kde09:38
Subvertiryou remove it with dpkg, not apt09:38
_mindspinoverread it 09:38
crimsun_mindspin: you don't need to remove artsd, just don't use it09:38
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Subvertirand yeah, you don't really need to09:38
_mindspinok so where can I disable it?09:38
Subvertirkcontrol, sound09:39
Subvertircrimsun, http://pastebin.com/413054 error resulting from 'apt-get install samba swat' any idea how to fix it?09:39
_mindspinbtw. the new "system settings" thing is not my favourite....09:40
crimsun"samba: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-6 is to be installed"09:41
crimsunapt-cache policy samba-common09:41
Subvertirhttp://pastebin.com/41305809:42
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_mindspinso where in kcontrol ? 09:43
crimsunSubvertir: and why is it instead of Hoary's installed?09:43
Subvertir..the sound panel?09:43
SubvertirI dunno09:44
_mindspinhaha09:44
SubvertirI think I switched this box from sarge to kubuntu or some dumb shit like that09:44
Subvertirit's been installed a pretty long time09:44
crimsunSubvertir: you have Breezy's samba-common installed, but your sources.list is for Hoary.09:44
Subvertiror from ubuntu to kubuntu09:44
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crimsunpick one of either 5.04 or 5.1009:45
SubvertirI don't understand what you mean09:45
crimsunyou can't install samba because it depends on an older version of samba-common09:45
crimsunthe samba-common you have installed is from Breezy/5.1009:46
crimsunyour sources.list is for Hoary/5.0409:46
crimsunso pick one: 5.04 or 5.1009:46
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crimsunpersonally, just change all references of "hoary" to "breezy", then update && dist-upgrade09:47
Subvertirman I can't find a TERM setting for putty that doesn't have some wackiness going on09:47
Subvertirrxvt is almost right09:47
crimsunwhy not just use xterm, or failing that, vt100?09:48
Subvertirdelete doesn't work09:48
crimsunctrl+h?09:48
crimsunyou can rebind that, no big deal09:48
Subvertirill have to google that09:48
Subvertiroh, so I don't need the kde repository for breezy?09:51
crimsunnot that I can tell09:51
Subvertircool09:51
Subvertirthanks for your help dude09:51
crimsunI'd comment out everything that isn't official Ubuntu for the dist-upgrade09:52
Subvertiryeah good call09:52
naliothand hope your unofficial repo usage doesn't hang up the upgrade09:52
_mindspinnice, the sound error window pops up every ten seconds 09:54
Subvertirit's in kcontrol in the sound tab...09:55
Subvertiryou click 'disable artsd' or somesuch09:55
_mindspinnope09:56
_mindspinwould be nice09:56
Subvertirnah, it's there09:56
_mindspinif there were anything alike09:56
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_mindspini can choose wther to use alsa or oss and such but nothing about artsd09:56
Subvertirthere are other sound servers09:57
Subvertirand I think there are arts wrappers for some of them09:57
SubvertirI've honestly never had any situation where multiplexing was actually necessary for just listening to music or playing games09:57
_mindspinman i#m not stuck to that frecking artsdaemon09:58
_mindspinIf I knew where I would have deactivated/uninstalled from the beginning09:58
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mth`MAWGood morning10:12
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_enriquebuenos dias10:22
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_enriquebuenos dias10:23
mth`MAWGuten Morgen10:25
mth`MAWEvery body in his/her native language ;)10:25
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minde924Labas rytas10:27
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mth`MAWlabas What?10:28
mth`MAWwhat kind of language is that?10:28
minde924Labas rytas - Good morning in lithuanian language10:29
raphinklabadiena minde924 :)10:29
minde924:)10:29
mth`MAWI see10:29
mth`MAWlithuanian 10:29
minde924raphink labas10:30
raphink:)10:31
raphinkminde924: as you're here, maybe you could help me on something I've been struggling with for years10:32
raphinkminde924: a friend of mine gave me her email add @takas.lt some years ago10:34
raphinkand I was never able to use it10:34
raphinkdo you know where I could search in order to find her?10:35
minde924raphink: my enlgish is poor but I can try to help you10:35
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raphinkany idea minde924 ?10:37
minde924raphink: I think what is impossible10:38
raphinknothing is impossible to good willing people minde924 ;)10:39
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minde924raphink: could you give me your friend e-mail? 10:43
raphinkit doesn't work minde924 10:43
raphinkI think also because it has an accent in it10:43
minde924raphink: Do you know real name of your friend?10:45
raphinkyes minde924 10:45
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stratovariusguys I tried to install nvidia drivers on my kubuntu breezy but nvidia installer says me I have no nvidia modules in kernel. what can I do?who can help me? thx10:56
stratovariusthis is my kernel 2.6.12-9-38610:57
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PanBlueCoalitionis there a net install disk for kubuntu?11:06
insanekanePanBlueCoalition: not that I know of11:07
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czerthi11:15
xuniL____hello czert11:15
czertwhere can i change audio-drive alsasink....11:15
czerti cant stream videos...11:15
czertxuniL hi11:15
xuniL____wich program are you useing...11:15
xuniL____?11:15
czertkonqueror11:16
czertand i forget where can i change audio-drive...11:16
czertdamn it :)11:16
xuniL____but to read audio files in konq konq uses a program...?11:16
PanBlueCoalitionanyone knows a fast mirror (AP region) to download the iso from?11:17
czertwhen you are streaming video...i think yes11:17
czerti dont know..11:17
czertsomewhere are settings where can i change alsasink to another driver...11:18
czertwhen i open this link it just tell me error...http://www.streaming-clips.com/videoclips/1883/Alicia-Keys/Karma.php11:19
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czertthat i have a wrong audio-driver and i should change it.....11:20
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czertbtw its a good page for clips11:20
czertif i could just remeber where are those settings\11:21
czertanybody knows?11:21
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czert*remebmer11:21
czertdamn11:21
izutHi there.11:21
czert*remember11:21
czerthi11:22
izutDo you know if kmail has some autoprune feature like pine has?11:22
czerti dont know i am newbie :)11:22
izut:)11:22
izutWelcome then :)11:22
czerthh11:22
czertthanks11:22
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czerti am here to ask how can i change audio-driver alsasink in konqueror to another audio-driver11:23
czertbecause i want to watch streamed videos on web and it just tells me error11:24
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izutI think you must use 'System Settings' to do that.11:25
PanBlueCoalitionthis is piss slow.11:25
czertwhere exactly will i find it?11:25
czertcan you tell me?11:25
ndazzahi! what type of file locking is done on the mbox files in /var/mail/<user> ? I am trying to read my mbox account in kmail11:26
izutI think is 'System Settings' > 'Sound and multimedia'11:26
izutI'm not at home right now.11:26
czertee i cant see it there11:27
czertdamn, i was changing it once but now i cant remember where...11:30
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czert at last!11:39
czertbingo11:39
xuniL____heh11:40
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CyberMadwhat is the command to install gcc and cc ?11:42
czertapt-get install11:42
CyberMadthanks mate11:43
czertor download it from webpage and istall it by: dpkg -i packagename11:43
izutsudo apt-get install gcc11:43
czertjop11:43
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czertdamn i have another problem11:50
czerti have set audio and video driver for streaming, and now when i open web page with streaming video my konqueror close and nothing happens.11:51
czertwhy??11:52
czertand what can i do??11:52
czertits some type of bug?11:52
czertwhen i open for example this page nothing happens and my konqueror shut down http://www.streaming-clips.com/videoclips/1883/Alicia-Keys/Karma.php11:55
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mcscrufflo11:55
mcscruffhow can i check if my parallel port has been detected?11:55
czertand what is connected with that parallel port?11:57
mcscruffi want to use it in vmware11:57
mcscrufffor an adapter11:57
mcscruffbut i need to add it to vmware settings and have no idea where it is11:58
czertask some expert..not me :)11:58
mcscrufflol11:58
mcscruffkk11:58
czerti am here to ask too, but everyone is ignoring..11:58
czertdamn it11:59
mcscruffi think its /dev/lp011:59
Tm_Tit is11:59
czertcan be11:59
mcscruffwhats ur Q11:59
Tm_Tczert: I think its pluginrelated issue12:00
czertcan you tell me why when i open page with streaming video my konqueror close and nothing happens?12:00
Tm_Tczert: ah, kaffeine12:00
czertyes12:00
Tm_Trest my case12:00
mcscruffgot the codecs?12:00
czertand how can i make it works12:00
Tm_Tfix the bugs12:00
mcscruffkaffine does suck12:00
czertyeah12:00
Tm_Tegreed =)12:00
Tm_Ta12:00
mcscruffi think you can get mplayer to work 12:01
Tm_TI need caffeine ->12:01
Tm_Tkmplayer!12:01
czertkmplayer?12:01
mcscruffits kde's front end for mplayer12:01
Tm_Tnope12:01
mcscruffand i think that works in konqueror12:01
mcscruffits not then :P12:01
Tm_Tits kde frontend for mplayer/xine/gstreamer12:02
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Tm_Tthere is BIG difference ;)12:02
czertuhm thanks12:02
mcscruffVideo player plugin for Konqueror using MPlayer, Xine or GStreamer.12:02
czertso i need to download, install and set kmplayer12:02
mcscruff^kmplayer12:02
mcscruffhttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=1000412:02
Tm_TI prefer svn12:03
czertwow thanks a lot12:03
mcscruffnow i need to run and buy batterys, but i also need to wait for the postman !!! WHAT DO I DO!!!!12:03
Tm_Thow about shoot yourself?12:03
Tm_T] ;=12:04
mcscrufflol12:04
Tm_TI really DO need caffeine ->12:04
czerthow can i repair this?12:07
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czertchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables12:07
czertSee `config.log' for more details.12:07
czertmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.12:08
czerti dont know what to do...12:09
czerteverytime when i use ./config this happens12:09
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czertshould i set somewhere C compiler default output file name? or what? and how?12:11
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CyberMadhow to know what version of my kubuntu?12:12
crimsunCyberMad: lsb_release -a12:14
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CyberMadthanks12:15
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CyberMaddoes anyone here ever install FreeRadius (www.freeradius.org) on Linux? i try install it on Kubuntu v5.04 and have problems when do make and make install12:21
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CyberMadi haven't install FreeRadius on other distro :| i just install it on Kubuntu and have that problem :(12:23
manveruwhat problem?12:23
CyberMadthere are a lot of syntax error :(12:24
manveruhow about pasting it?12:24
manverurafb.net/paste12:24
CyberMadlike: x99.h:146: error: syxtax error before "des_cblock" and many more12:25
CyberMadoh.. ok manveru12:25
manveru^^12:25
CyberMadjust a minute12:26
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manveruhmm - i am thinking how a SGPL would perform, a kind of Secure GPL where they give you a kind of certainity that the application won't harm you...12:26
manveruonly tracing back who exactly is resposible would be a mess...12:27
CyberMadbtw what language should i use at rafb.net ? Does using a plain text is okay?12:29
manverusure12:29
manveruit's only for sytax-highlighting12:29
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DocTomoehas anyone a suggestion how to get klaptopdaemon running on an acer extensa 2600 laptop with 2.6.14 and acpi activated on breezy?12:30
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manveruCyberMad: got it?12:34
manveruah, i see12:34
CyberMadokay. this is the log file : 12:34
manverux99.h:26:42: openssl/des.h: No such file or directory12:35
manverui guess that's the source of the problem12:35
manveruhave you got openssl installed?12:36
manveruand the openssl-dev12:36
CyberMadwhen i do ./configure the results are http://rafb.net/paste/results/kFo5b720.html12:36
manveruchecking for openssl/ssl.h... no12:36
manveruyeap12:37
manverusomehow this is no falid error12:37
manverufatal :)12:37
manveruplease check that you have openssl and openssl-dev installed and retry it12:37
CyberMadokay and when i do the sudo make the results are http://rafb.net/paste/results/aBMXev40.html12:37
czerti have a problem with GCC12:38
manveruCyberMad: you shouldn't do a make as root12:38
czert"C compiler default output file name"12:38
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CyberMadthat means i should install the openssl? how to do it? could i do it using apt?12:40
manveruwhat are you normally using to install software?12:40
czertdamn damn damn shit12:40
czertgrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr12:40
CyberMadokay... right now i am installing openssl using command sudo apt-get install openssl12:40
manveruczert: what's your problem?12:40
manveruCyberMad: ok12:41
manveruCyberMad: just searching for the right openssl-dev package12:41
czerti am looking on google to solve my problem with gcc12:41
mustard5czert perhaps you can share it with us?12:41
czerthmm 12:41
czertok12:41
manveruCyberMad: libssl-dev is what you need12:41
czertwhen i type ./config to terminal12:41
czertit allways show me this message12:42
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manveruCyberMad: and if you want i can teach you how to build a .deb file out of sourcecode with minimal effort12:42
czertchecking for gcc... gcc12:42
czertchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables12:42
czertSee `config.log' for more details.12:42
czertand then12:42
CyberMadokay i am installing libssl-dev right now...12:42
czertkmplayer-0.9.1# make12:43
czertmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.12:43
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manveruczert: have yout got build-essentials installed?12:44
mustard5ubotu: tell czert about the pastebin12:44
czerthmm i dont know what to do..12:44
mustard5czert, try pasting all the output in pastebin and show us the URL to the pastebin your create12:44
mustard5czert, ubotu sent instructions about pastebin12:44
manveruubotu: tell manveru about pastebin12:44
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czertpastebin? sory can you explain it ? :)12:44
mustard5!pastebin12:44
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:44
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czertthanks :)12:45
stratovariusguys how can I install the damned nvidia driver on kubuntu breezy?12:45
mustard5czert, paste your output from terminal and then show us the URL so we can look at it12:45
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manveruubotu: tell stratovarius about nvidia12:46
stratovariusmanveu I've already looked at that links12:47
manverubrb12:47
stratovarius*link12:47
stratovarius:\12:48
manverustratovarius: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia12:48
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stratovariusalready looked at that link12:48
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manveruand what's the problem?12:48
stratovariusI tried to install nvidia driver downloading nvidia installer12:48
manverusry, but gotta go eating, brb12:48
stratovariusI execute it but it says me I've no module in kernel for my video card12:49
czerti think this is it http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/392812:49
stratovariusczert u need to install gcc12:50
czerti have installed gcc12:50
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mateuszwitam ;] 12:50
CyberMadoh my god... my brain is gonna blow up :( the errors of installing FreeRadius too much error :(12:50
stratovariusalready installed build-essential?12:51
czertwhat is build-essential?12:51
stratovariussudo apt-get install build-essential12:51
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stratovariusczert install it and try again12:52
czertinstalling :)12:52
stratovariusk12:52
stratovariusczert what were you trying to install?12:53
czertit looks like it works :)12:53
CyberMadmanveru it's work :)12:53
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CyberMadmanveru because the openssl :) thanks a lot!!!12:53
stratovariusczert does it work?12:54
czertstratovarius kmplayer12:54
stratovariusmmm12:54
czertit looks like yes12:54
stratovariusI think it's better vlc12:54
czertooo no12:54
stratovariuskmplayer needs to play video doesnt it?12:55
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czertchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!12:55
stratovariusmmm12:55
czertstill another and another problem 12:55
stratovariuswhat command did u give to install kmplayer?12:56
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czertjust ./configure12:57
stratovariustry sudo /configure12:57
czertok12:57
stratovariussudo ./configure12:57
stratovariusczert do you use kde or gnome?12:59
czertkde01:00
czertstil: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!01:00
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stratovariusczert try sudo apt-get install xorg-dev01:00
stratovariusand then try again to install kmplayer01:01
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czertok01:01
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czertsudo apt-get install xorg-dev01:02
czertReading package lists... Done01:02
czertBuilding dependency tree... Done01:02
czertE: Couldn't find package xorg-dev01:02
stratovariusczert wai for a while01:03
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czertok01:04
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marthi01:04
stratovariusczert try sudo apt-get insatll xorg-common01:04
martis it just me, or did amarok disappear from the K menu?01:04
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czertReading package lists... Done01:06
czertBuilding dependency tree... Done01:06
czertxorg-common is already the newest version.01:06
czert0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.01:06
stratovariusczert dunno01:06
stratovariusim not able to help u srry01:06
czertdunno? whats that?01:06
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stratovariusI dont know (dunno) how to help you01:07
czertnever mind, thanks anyway01:07
czerti aprishiate that you try..01:07
martanyone else missing amarok in the K menu?01:09
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czertmart , no i have it01:14
martdamn, in breezy?01:14
czertyes01:14
czerttry to add it there manualy..01:14
marthmm, it should be there01:15
czertyeah01:15
martthe desktop file is there, and it looks right01:15
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czertok i give up01:17
czerti dont know how to set this...01:17
marthmm, when I grep $HOME/.kde/share for amarok, I just get backtraces :)01:17
czertReading package lists... Done01:17
czertBuilding dependency tree... Done01:17
czertxorg-common is already the newest version.01:17
czert0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.01:17
czerthmm not this01:17
czertchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!01:18
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martczert: so do that?01:18
martczert: what are you trying to do01:19
czertwhen i run ./configure then this shows me..01:20
czerti am trying to install kmplayer01:20
martand you've installed libx11-dev?01:21
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mart(or whatever has the includes that it's looking for)01:21
czerti dont know 01:21
czertwhat package should i install to run it?01:22
marttry installing it :)01:22
czertok :))01:22
martlibx11-dev01:22
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hanseatichi01:24
martczert: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/multimedia/kmplayer/debian/control?rev=472110&view=auto01:25
hanseatici have a strange behaviour in my new kubuntu 5.10 already updated standard installation01:25
martczert: install all the packages listed in the Build-Depends: line01:25
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hanseaticwhen i start adept i am beeing asked for the passwd.... when entered it works fine, and starts adept, but when i start the administrator mode in the login manager of the kde system settings, the window refreshes, without going in admin mode01:27
czertthese? debhelper (>= 4.0.0), kdelibs4-dev, libxine-dev, xlibs-dev, libgstreamer0.8-dev, libgstreamer-plugins0.8-dev01:27
martczert: yes01:27
czertok01:27
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hanseatictrying to restart adapt gives the error: dcop communications error01:29
hanseaticnone of the protocols specified....01:30
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czerthehehe damn01:38
czerteverytime when i run ./configure when it comes to check for X it show error01:39
apokryphosczert: what are you trying to compile?01:39
czertchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!01:39
czertkdelibs01:39
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czertit doesnt matters01:39
apokryphosczert: sudo apt-get build-dep kdelibs 01:39
czertit show everytime01:39
czertok01:39
czertbut i would like to repair this problem...can you tell me how ? :)01:40
apokryphosczert: that *will* repair the problem :)01:40
apokryphosczert: build-dep option resolves dependencies for a given package01:40
czertbtw 01:41
czert# sudo apt-get build-dep kdelibs01:41
czertReading package lists... Done01:41
czertBuilding dependency tree... Done01:41
czertE: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list01:41
apokryphosczert: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the deb-src lines01:41
czertthis will configure X?01:41
apokryphosthe compile error has nothing to do with your configuration of X01:41
apokryphosit comes up if you don't have the X includes01:41
apokryphosif you're building kdelibs then you'll want all the build-dependencies required for building it. The apt-get build-dep can be used for this purpose01:42
martczert: you've installed the packages listed as build depends as above?01:42
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czertmart working on it :)01:43
Kamping_Kaise1having fun mez? ;S01:43
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martczert: do that before you run configure :)01:43
czerthmm but i run configure for another program..01:43
apokryphoswhat?01:44
martdon't bother with apt-get build-dep kdelibs, it'll install more than you need.01:44
apokryphosmart: err, no. If he's building kdelibs, it'll install *exactly* what he needs01:44
martapokryphos: he told me he was building kmplayer.01:44
apokryphos:/01:44
Tm_T:)01:44
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czertyeah yeah i am newbie...so many times i dont understand... :))01:45
czertok i am going to have a lunch01:45
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czertthanks for help01:46
czertsee ya!01:46
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hanseatichi apokryphos01:54
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hanseatici reinstalled, a non expert installation now, and this time it did not ask me for a rootpasswd ;o)01:55
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apokryphoshi01:55
apokryphosoh, you didn't mention that you had done an expert... ok.01:55
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AbuTonihello01:56
AbuToniI need some help using Kubunto01:56
hanseatichowever there must be some bug with dcop... i can start adept now, but not after i tried to get into admin mode of the login manager (that fails too without errors)... after that i get a dcop error, i'd have to copy by hand01:57
apokryphoswhat is it?01:57
hanseaticdcop?01:57
apokryphosAbuToni: you won't get any help if you don't ask questions 8)01:57
apokryphoshanseatic: yes01:57
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AbuToniapokryphos:  ok during setup it didn't ask me for root password and now when i try to do anything it asks me for it01:58
apokryphos!root01:58
ubotuhmm... root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo01:58
AbuToniapokryphos:  it says to me Run as root -KDE su01:59
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apokryphosAbuToni: what?01:59
apokryphosAbuToni: read that link I provided above01:59
AbuToniwhen i try to adjust date and time01:59
AbuTonihave you tryed this apokryphos 02:00
apokryphosyes; have you read that page?02:01
apokryphosUbuntu should never ask you for the *root* password02:01
AbuToniI have red that02:01
AbuToniapokryphos:  are you now running kubunto?02:01
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hanseaticauthentication rejected. Reason: none of the authentication protokols specified are supported abd host based authentication failed. chack if dcopserver is running02:01
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apokryphoshanseatic: have you been sudoing any apps?02:02
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AbuToniapokryphos:  try to right click on the clock on the bottom of your window and do "Adjust Date & Time"02:04
apokryphosAbuToni: did you read the page?02:04
hanseaticapo no, exept pressing the login manager admin button02:05
AbuToniyes02:05
apokryphoshanseatic: are you on i386?02:05
apokryphosAbuToni: doesn't sound like you have..02:05
AbuToniwhy>02:05
hanseatic@apo yes...02:05
AbuToni??02:05
hanseaticpemtium M02:06
apokryphosAbuToni: the only time you'd be asked for a root password is if you built kde manually or something. Did you?02:06
AbuToninop02:06
AbuTonidid you try what i asked you to try?02:06
hanseaticyou are asked, when you boot the install cd with expert ;o)02:07
apokryphoshanseatic: install the package here: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868102:07
apokryphosAbuToni: obviously; several times before.02:07
AbuToniand what did it asked you for?02:07
apokryphosobviously the user password02:07
apokryphosAbuToni: did you do expert mode?02:07
AbuToniwhy is it asking me for the root password?02:07
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AbuToniapokryphos:  when is this gotta be chosen?02:07
apokryphosAbuToni: on the installation of Ubuntu/Kubuntu. You shouldn't choose it unless you know what you're doing02:07
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AbuToniapokryphos:  i understand english02:08
AbuTonithanks for translating02:08
hanseatic@apo thanx !!! :o)02:08
AbuToniI am wondering when in the installation I am aksed to use expert mode or else02:08
apokryphosAbuToni: whatt?02:08
AbuToni???02:08
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AbuToniapokryphos:  thanks for your help i have fixed the problem by enabling the root account02:10
hanseaticnewbquestion.... how do i install that?02:10
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Tm_Tapokryphos: thank you02:10
apokryphoshanseatic: sudo dpkg -i somefile.deb02:10
AbuToni have typed in the shell -----------> sudo passwd root02:11
apokryphosas the link says, you shouldn't have to use root at all02:11
apokryphosif you do, then something is obviously going wrong02:11
hanseaticwhen i try to download te file it tells me its binary and saving will corrupt it, when i type dpkg -i url it errors since the command expects an archive02:13
apokryphoswget someurl.com/somefile02:14
apokryphosthough, trying to open the .deb with kate is a bug02:14
burepeI installed gnome with apt-get ubuntu-desktop and it made gnome-bittorrent my default bittorrent application. Before I was using bittornado. Now I can't find bittornado in my menu, I don't know the command to start the gui for it, and Synaptic says it is installed already. I uninstall and installed it again with no success. Gnome-bittorrent is using default ports and I am getting rejected by the tracker. I have been trying to use bittorren02:14
burepet command line but it is driving me crazy. Can someone tell me how to get bittornado working or how to change my ports in Gnome-bittorrent?02:14
apokryphosburepe: isn't the executable something like btdownloadgui02:16
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hanseaticmaybe i am really to dumb for this, but wget now sucked some cgi script02:16
apokryphosor btdownloadcurses (for CLI)02:16
apokryphoshanseatic: what's the exact command you're putting in?02:16
burepebow02:17
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burepenaw02:17
hanseaticwget http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6185002:17
apokryphoshanseatic: whyy?02:17
hanseaticsudo dpkg -i show_bug.cgi\?id\=6185002:17
apokryphosburepe: for bittornado? It is btdownloadcurses, yes02:17
apokryphoshanseatic: you're looking at comment 59, right? http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8681#c5902:18
hanseatici cannot find any file.deb on that page02:18
apokryphoshanseatic: Ctrl+F in webpages is handy :)02:18
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burepethere are three btdownloadcures, btdownloadcurses.bittornado, btdownloadcurses.bittorrent02:18
burepeI get no gui when I do them 02:19
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hanseaticno... there was an #59 missing on the url you gave me before... 02:19
burepejust a list of options that I am having trouble using02:19
apokryphosburepe: you're looking for the GUI of which program, then?02:19
apokryphoshanseatic: hm, may have been the wrong link then. Apologies.02:19
burepebittornado02:20
apokryphosburepe: well, try all the executables that it brings in then02:20
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burepeyou can change ports in its gui02:20
burepedid it02:20
apokryphosyou can change ports in its CLI02:20
hanseaticthanx anyway...02:20
burepewhat is cli?02:20
apokryphoscommand line interface02:20
hanseatici'll try this now02:21
apokryphosburepe: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=bittornado&searchmode=filelist&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i38602:21
apokryphosburepe: all the things shown there under /usr/bin .. you've tried them?02:21
burepethere are just stuff under bt...02:21
burepeI tried them all02:21
burepeThey are listed on the link that you just posted02:22
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apokryphosburepe: then evidently it follows that there's no gui for BitTornado, no?02:23
bureperight02:23
burepebut synaptic says it is installed 02:23
apokryphosburepe: in which case I'm wondering why you're looking for something that apparently doesn't exist ;-)02:23
burepeand I have used it02:23
ep(Breezy Kubuntu) System Settings --> Administrator Mode is not accepting my root password, there is no error message, just a pause and  refresh back to a non-administrator screen.  Is this a bug?  How do i work-around or fix?.  02:23
burepebecause I used it02:24
apokryphosep: it asks for the user pass, not the root one. Are you on i386?02:24
epyes02:24
burepeubuntu-desktop stole the associtation02:24
apokryphosep: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8681#c5902:24
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burepeOk if it doesn't exist how do I get it?02:25
burepeOk, I'll check synaptic.02:25
burepeOh, it's already installed.02:25
apokryphosoO02:25
burepebut it doesn't exist02:25
burepecatch 2202:26
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hanseaticapo many thanx again, it seems to work now, so far02:26
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apokryphosburepe: hm, seems that ubuntu doesn't package it with the GUI02:29
apokryphosburepe: if you get the tar.gz from their site though you can apparently have a gui there02:29
apokryphosburepe: ahhh, there's a bttornado-gui package :)02:29
burepewhat is it 02:29
burepemaybe I am missing the repo02:29
apokryphosno, you've got the repo, but probably not the package02:30
apokryphosit's in Universe02:30
burepeI searched it and it came up with one package02:30
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apokryphos!repositories02:30
apokryphos!+repositories02:31
uboturepositories is probably How to add repositories:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:31
burepeThanks 02:31
burepeI think that is it02:31
burepeI messed my system and I reinstalled and i kinda breezed by the repositories step02:31
burepeI am not a fluent yet02:32
apokryphosok, no worries. We're here to help02:32
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burepethe repo file is /etc/... what?02:35
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Mezwho banned me02:35
apokryphosme 02:35
Kamping_Kaiserwb mez02:35
Mezapokryphos, why ?02:35
apokryphosMez: join/parting like crazy ;-)02:35
Kamping_Kaiserfor an hour ;)02:35
Mezblame stupid hotel wifi02:35
Meznow I'm downstairs using the ubuntu wifi02:36
Mezit works fine02:36
apokryphoscool02:36
burepewata4wa02:37
burepeSorry where is sources.list located?02:38
Mez/etc/apt/sources.list02:39
burepethanks02:39
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burepeforgot the apt02:39
apokryphosburepe: though the guide tells you how to do it from adept02:39
burepeyeah02:40
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burepeI kinda know what im doing just rusty02:40
burepedidnt realize that was the problem02:41
burepeI know there is one repo that can screw up your system is that the backports?02:41
apokryphosMez: how would you set op commands from outside a channel through chanserv?02:42
Mezapokryphos, ???02:42
apokryphosburepe: a certain type of backports, yes.02:42
Mezburope - debian backports/marillat/unofficial backports02:43
burepeis that not included in this how to?02:43
apokryphosMez: ChanServ [ChanServ@services.]  has set mode -b Mez!*@*. How would you do that from outside a chan?02:43
burepegot it02:43
burepethanks02:43
Mezapokryphos, /msg chanserv unban #channel02:44
apokryphosI see02:44
burepehey the list for hoary that you one of you gave me is a generic list. I am in Japan. so should I put jp after the // or just leave it alone?02:45
apokryphos!mirrors02:46
ubotumirrors is, like, repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive02:46
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burepebut basically is is all the same addresses with the country code first? so I would be safe just editing in JP by hand right?02:47
apokryphosnot if it doesn't exist, but it does seem to02:50
burepethanks02:50
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CyberMadhow to login as "root" in ubuntu?03:31
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CyberMadbecause when i installed the ubuntu, it never ask a password.. \03:32
freeflyingdose anyone here use skim for as Input Method03:32
tvo!rootsudo03:32
uboturootsudo is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo03:32
tvoCyberMad: ^^03:32
CyberMadthanks.. 03:33
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johanwhy i can't acces sound in gnomemeeting even i test sound and was ok :-(03:36
freeflyingskim-1.4.3 released ,anyone wanto to use it can download deb from http://svn.ubuntu.org.cn/ubuntu-cn/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/skim/03:36
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humehi....i find that when i connect a digital camera to my ubuntu box, konqueror tries to open the address media:/sda1, that does not exist, since the camera is mounted to /media/usbdisk - how do I do to change this annoying behavior in konqueror?03:53
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izuthume: I think it is a known issue in 5.10.04:04
humeizut, ok, seems i found it in bugzilla right this second...:)04:05
humeyou got any idea of how to shut it down meanwhile, just stop the autoloading?04:05
humeit's for my mother in law, she is moving from win to ubuntu, and i need to be flawless.....04:06
izutMaybe you want to stop hald.04:06
Kamping_Kaiserhume: you up to date ? a fix may be out04:06
humeizut, no, i want it to mount the cam smoothly04:06
humeKamping_Kaiser, i'll check...installed two days ago, though...04:07
Kamping_Kaiserthen you need to update04:07
Kamping_Kaiserthe packages are from the 13th ;)04:07
humeok04:07
Kamping_Kaiseryouwant to make sure your sources list has a "deb http://cc.archive.Ubuntu.com/Ubuntu $version main" line04:08
Kamping_Kaiserwhere cc is your country code04:08
Kamping_Kaiserand $version is your version of Ubuntu04:08
humeyep04:08
Kamping_Kaiser:)(04:09
humebreezy then04:09
Kamping_Kaisercool. yep04:09
Kamping_Kaiserof course :$ i should have rememberered for 4 minutes04:09
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Kamping_Kaiserwb04:10
nxv_hi. i have ubuntu breezy running on my desktop and my laptop04:11
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nxv_my laptops seems to lack some fonts. eboard and xboards complains about some fonts it can't find. 04:11
nxv_don't know what is differen to my desktop setup04:11
Kamping_Kaiserwhat fonts ?04:12
nxv_Kamping_Kaiser: xboard complains about: -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* eboard just says: <BareBoard::BareBoard> can't load font.04:12
Kamping_Kaiserlmao @ xboard. i have that problem on a Debian box, and i cant work it out :|04:13
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slow-motionhallo04:14
humenxv_, well....i had that problem on a debian box....and04:14
humethere is a font config somewhere where helvetica fonts are disabled, you need to comment out a section04:15
nxv_i will see if i find such a config04:15
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nxv_but what confuses me most is: on my laptop and desktop same system04:15
nxv_one runs the other not??04:15
nxv_very strange04:15
nxv_i belive i have installed both again from cd when breezy got final04:16
nxv_can i check this ?04:16
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humenxv_, it was in /etc/fonts/local.conf.04:17
nxv_which is the default font server of ubuntu? or are fontservers outdated? 04:17
humeno idea04:17
nxv_xfs is not installed04:17
Kamping_Kaiserxfs04:17
Kamping_Kaiseroh. ok :04:18
Kamping_Kaiser:S04:18
Kamping_Kaiseri thout that's what it was. might be an xorg thing not needing it 04:18
nxv_i am not sure if xserver still need an standalone font server04:18
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Kamping_Kaiserah ok04:18
nxv_does any body know for sure how fonts are currently handled in ubuntu breezy?04:21
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strike4ce!restricted04:25
ubotuwell, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs04:25
nxv_in openoffice i have plenty of fonts04:25
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manverua quick question - what would be a good (best would be console-only) program to encode my wavs to mp3?04:29
manveruor probably ogg... that doesn't matter to me04:29
dipnlikmanveru: oggenc04:30
Kamping_Kaiserfor ogg grab the vorbis-tools package04:30
manveruuh, heard about it :)04:30
manveruk04:30
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manverusweet04:30
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manverui had them already04:30
apokryphoswhat's the other CLI BT client again? BitTornado can do it; others?04:30
izutktorrent.04:31
manveruBitTorrent04:31
manveruazureus04:31
apokryphosktorrent and azureus aren't CLI BT clients04:31
izutOh, sorry.04:31
izutapokryphos: You're right :)04:31
manveruwhat is CLI?04:32
Kamping_Kaisercommand line interface04:32
izutCommand Line Interface04:32
manveruah, yeah04:32
manveruthere are many of them i thought04:32
manveruhmm, apt-cache gives me only bittorrent and bittornado...04:33
apokryphosactually I think the official client might do; gonna check it out04:33
manverumaybe you find more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bittorrent04:33
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manveruthere's a list of bittorrentclients (at least a link to one)04:34
apokryphosaha, official client does it; perfect04:35
the1000what was that KDE util to se refresh rate?04:35
the1000and resolution04:35
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apokryphoskrandrtray04:35
the1000E: Couldn't find package krandrtray04:35
the1000wtf?04:35
apokryphosthe1000: though you can also access it from right-clicking on the desktop04:36
apokryphosthe1000: alt+f2 -> krandrtray04:36
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izutOr through System Settings04:37
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mcscruffhi, i have an adapter plugged into my parallel port is there any way that i can see if kubuntu has noticed it?04:37
the1000apokryphos: thnx!04:38
nxv_mcscruff: dmesg before and dmesg after plugin04:38
the1000brb04:38
manverutry alt+space btw :)04:38
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treefrogis anyone using wine? I want to know if I will get a better result from installing winesetuptk or just wine? it seems that in adept you can use one or the other but not both.04:38
nxv_i did dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig deleted .font* from my homedir in the hope it will be regenarated04:38
nxv_still no running eboard or xboard. openoffice having plenty of fonts04:39
manveruopenoffice has it's own set of fonts, right?04:39
nxv_manveru: don't know04:40
nxv_but i don't know how to ger my fonts running04:40
manveruyour fonts?04:40
manveruhave you got a bunch of ttfs or something?04:40
nxv_the fonts xboard or eboard needs to run04:40
manveruyou can add fonts via kcontrol04:41
nxv_xboard complains helvetica, which as far as i know should be in 04:41
apokryphossome font fixes were made after breezy release04:41
nxv_xfonts-75dpi xfonts-100dpi04:41
nxv_which are both installed04:41
manveruthere where more packages...04:41
apokryphosnot sure if it'll resolve that particular problem, but your best bet is to enable breezy-updates and grab them04:42
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manverubut i eventually forgot how they are called04:42
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Sarahhi there04:43
humenxv_, did you check the file i mentioned?04:43
nxv_http://phpfi.com/84961 shows my apt source list04:43
nxv_updates are included04:44
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nxv_hume: u mean /etc/fonts/local.conf04:44
apokryphosnxv_: so sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:45
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humenxv_, yes04:45
apokryphos(making sure you first have kubuntu-desktop installed)04:45
nxv_hume: this file doesn't exist04:45
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nxv_dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig says:04:45
nxv_Not replacing deleted config file /etc/fonts/local.conf04:45
nxv_when i dou a touch /etc/fonts/local.conf04:45
nxv_it is deleted after04:46
nxv_dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig04:46
humeis there another local.conf anywhere, in you home dir for instance?04:46
manverumy solution is always - purge something :)04:46
nxv_apokryphos: all is uptodate04:46
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nxv_i have no further idears04:49
nxv_beside a reinstallation :(04:49
soundmaster80i would like to know how i can add a device to system menu >storage media, i have added the folder to /media but it's not showing up04:50
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manverunxv_: lemme try to help you04:50
manverunxv_: you got two programs you want to install04:50
manverunxv_: and they need a fonts you don't have?04:51
nxv_manveru: im thankful for any solution04:51
manverua/font||fonts04:51
nxv_manveru: eboard and xboard are installed but cant be executed04:51
manveruboard-games?04:52
nxv_apt should have taken care of the dependencies04:52
nxv_yes eboard04:52
manverumom, trying to install them04:52
nxv_xboard was just another try04:52
nxv_but i want to use eboard04:52
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manveruok it runs04:53
manverubut it looks awful...04:53
nxv_kcontrol seems to know all fonts04:53
nxv_might it be a bash config trouble04:54
manveruyeah04:54
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manverui don't think it uses anything from bash04:54
manveruthere is a font-server04:54
nxv_manveru: when u define eboard as awful what would u suggest to play chess only?04:54
manverui play Go :)04:54
nxv_manveru: there is no more fontserver since quite a time afaik integrated in xorg/xserver 04:55
nxv_qgo?04:55
manveruyeah04:55
manverubut it's no eye-candy as well04:55
manveruand you want to play chess04:55
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nxv_id loved eboard so far04:56
nxv_is xfst installed on ur sytem?04:56
manveruthere is lack for beauty board-games04:56
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manveruno04:56
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nxv_if u want to laugh run 3dchess04:58
nxv_oh my good04:58
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manveruuhm04:59
manveruhow do i run it?04:59
nxv_install 3dchess04:59
nxv_3Dc04:59
manveruunusual name...04:59
CyberMaddoes anyone know how to install glibc ?04:59
nxv_CyberMad: i gues u have it installed when ur system is up running05:00
manveruargh!?05:00
nxv_manveru: mad05:00
manverunice idea...05:00
CyberMadhow to check it?05:00
manverubut bad implementation...05:00
nxv_CyberMad: dpkg -l | grep glibc05:00
CyberMadok i'll try.. thank u so much..05:01
nxv_CyberMad: i hope for u that u have no trouble with glibc05:02
manveruCyberMad: what do you need the glibc for?05:02
manveruCyberMad: guess you didn't wake up and thought 'hey, the last thing to reach enlightening is glibc'05:02
CyberMadi am installing freeradius and looks like have problem with it..05:02
manverui thought you installed freeradius with no further problems?05:03
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CyberMadno, still have few problems here like adding users and mysql05:04
CyberMad>.<05:04
manveruwhat errors do you get?05:04
manverunxv_: sorry that i can't help you more...05:05
nxv_manveru: thanks for the attempt05:06
nxv_if i just knew where to find further advie05:06
nxv_+c05:06
manverunxv_: it really sucks to see the board-games on linux compared to the windows ones tho...05:06
CyberMadwhen running radiusd -X, and do the "radtest test test localhost 0 secret" the end of the reply said that access reject... still don't know why..05:06
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nxv_perhaps i shoul reinstall. as i am not entirly shure if i did so after breezy final rlease05:06
manverunxv_: yeah, i guess something is b0rken05:07
Strike4ceI edited my xorg file Now Im on the recovery mode. How do istart up my backup xorg.conf?05:07
manveruCyberMad: and how do you get the idea that glibc is the cause of your trouble?05:08
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manveruStrike4ce: did you make a backup?05:08
Strike4ceanyone help me?05:08
Strike4cemanveru yes with the backup tool Konserv I think?05:08
manveruStrike4ce: uh... never used Konserv :)05:09
kazuhi there05:09
Strike4ceapokryphos can you help me?05:09
CyberMadbecause the radius book that i read said that i need to check the glibc, gmake, gcc and binutils before do the ./configure command05:09
manveruStrike4ce: however, the essentials being just copy your backedup xorg.conf back to /usr/X11/xorg.conf05:10
Strike4cemanveru kubuntu auto backsup the file anyways. How do i get it started?05:10
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manveruStrike4ce: since i don't know where your backup is, i can't tell you the exact command05:10
manveruCyberMad: this is just the std-blabla at the beginning of a compilation05:10
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manveruCyberMad: but since the ssl didn't throw an exception i'm not so sure there are no others05:11
manveruCyberMad: that cause trouble05:11
manveruStrike4ce: but wait a second, i'll fire up Konserv, wanted to check it out some time ago05:11
manveruah, handy tool that is05:12
apokryphosStrike4ce: with what?05:13
manveruStrike4ce: i guess you just have to click on restore?05:13
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Strike4ceapokryphos I edited my Xorg.conf file and now Im in recovery mode. I need to reedit05:14
apokryphosStrike4ce: I'd recommend just doing the manually-guided dpkg-reconfigure05:15
manveruyeap...05:15
Strike4ceHow?05:15
manverutry 'sudo dexconf'05:16
apokryphosStrike4ce: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:16
Strike4ceI have an ati driver. Will I have to go back into it and change the ati driver to fglrx? I know that in reconfigure xorg it doesnt work right05:17
manverubtw, the tray-icon for Konserv sucks....05:17
Strike4ceCan I edit my xorg.conf file again from cli?05:17
manverusure05:17
manveruyou can do everything from cli...05:17
Strike4cewhat is the command?05:18
manverueven drawing images...05:18
manverusudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:18
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Strike4ceWhat is the command to start it back up?05:27
Strike4cemanveru?05:28
musikim trying to download the edubuntu iso...and i have the ubuntu breezy install cd......is there any way to get edubuntu iso in a quicker way????/05:28
manveruStrike4ce: starting what?05:28
Strike4cestarting up kubuntu from the cli screen05:28
manverumusik: you can install edubuntu right away05:28
manveruStrike4ce: you are in recovery-mode?05:29
Strike4ceI edited the xorg.conf file and corrected the mistake05:29
Strike4ceyes05:29
Strike4ceis it startx?05:29
manveruStrike4ce: or did you start normal and you are only in console?05:29
manverutry 'kdm'05:29
musikmanveru: i wanna do a fresh install.....right now im on kubuntu...and get an edubuntu bootsplash..05:29
Strike4cethanx manveru05:30
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Strike4ceYou gonna be here for a while?05:30
manveruyeap05:30
Strike4ceI need some more help05:30
musikany other way????/05:30
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manverumusik: i don't think there's a faster way - maybe via jigdo05:30
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manverumusik: but then you would need your old iso in jigdo as well05:31
musikmanveru: what is jigdo? plz explain??05:31
musikold iso??05:31
Strike4ceI have a dell inspiron 8600 laptop with ati mobility radeon 9600 pro turbo 128mb, with 15.4 inch LCD monitor the resolution is 1280x800, but kubuntu will only go as high as 1280x768.05:31
manverumusik: jigdo is a little app wich helps you getting your cds faster05:31
musikmanveru: how? can i use it right now to get edubuntu faster? how?05:32
Strike4ceIn other words when I am in kubuntu the image does'nt fill the entire screen. I have a small black space all the way around.05:32
manverumusik: i'm not even sure it works with ubuntus - did use it for debian so far05:32
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Strike4cemanveru you know anything about fixing that?05:32
kkathmanGreetings all :)05:32
manveruStrike4ce: maybe configuring your xorg.conf?05:32
manveruhey kkathman :)05:33
kkathmanhowdy manveru  :)05:33
manveruStrike4ce: but maybe the #xorg guys can help you a bit more05:33
musikwhat is down speed & upspeed?05:33
manverumusik: down is to your computer, up is from your computer05:33
manverumusik: common names in the filesharing-area05:34
musikmanveru: what gets up FROm my computer when im downloading something?05:34
manverumusik: guess you use torrent05:34
manverumusik: you get your files from others, in exchange you provide the files you downloaded to others05:35
musikyup ktorrent......05:35
manveruthis is so that everyone can go up in speed the more people download a file05:35
manverunot the other way round05:35
manverusome people do only uploading - these are called seeds05:36
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musikmanveru: ive put ubuntu cd into drive....and i guess im downloading something with jigdo..but where is the iso getting stored on my pc....how do i know this?05:45
Mezmusik - if you're using the CD - it doesnt need to use jigdo05:46
Mezit'll be installing and getting the latest stuff05:47
musikhuh? im confused!05:47
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spikehi there05:48
musikMez: im using ubuntu cd with jigdo for edubuntu iso.........right now i think its scanning the ubuntu cd in my drive.....05:48
spikecan anybody help me with konqueror? I set the view to mulitcolumn, but anytime I reopen that settings arent kept05:48
icewtspike: settings -> save view profile05:49
spikeicewt: did that05:49
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spikeicewt: it saves  it as "Kubuntu File Manager"05:49
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icewthm.. it should work then. there are some places where it doesn't work for me either though05:51
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PanBlueCoalitionis it possible to select only the packages i want during installation?06:07
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_ganymedhallo06:10
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_ganymedcan i uninstall exim4 together with ubuntu-minimal without problems?06:10
manveruwhy want you uninstall exim4?06:12
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Strike4ce!855resolution06:13
ubotuI don't know, Strike4ce06:13
PanBlueCoalitionis it possible to select only the packages i want during installation?06:13
manveruPanBlueCoalition: maybe?06:13
manveruPanBlueCoalition: since you install kubuntu, you want kde, right?06:14
PanBlueCoalitionyes. but i don't want certain stuff like openoffice etc.06:14
manveruPanBlueCoalition: i see, i've got the installer not in mind anymore, but i think it will be possible06:14
manveruPanBlueCoalition: otherwise you can uninstall it afterwards06:15
PanBlueCoalitionmanveru: i can't seem to. using aptitute.06:15
manverujust say 'sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org'06:16
_ganymedbecause at start-up i have problems starting the MTA...06:16
manveru_ganymed: you might want to reconfigure your exim406:16
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manveruStrike4ce: did you get help in #xorg ?06:17
manveru_ganymed: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4'06:17
Strike4cemanveru they cant help06:18
_ganymedi have. doesn't work....06:18
Strike4cesmart asses there06:18
manveruwell, if they can't... i'm just being helpless06:18
manveru_ganymed: what is the problem on startup?06:19
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zer0timehi all06:20
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kkathmanhello zer0time :)06:20
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manveruPanBlueCoalition: is that working?06:21
zer0timeI got 2 internet devices ra0 and eth0, ra0 is the one receiving internet traffic, eth0 and my xbox are connected with a crossed cable, and in windows, I share my conection for the xbox to go online, but under linux, I wonder if its possible, I tried firestarter app, not much results, please help06:21
_ganymedjust needs endless time. before installing dhcp3 it told me that it couldn't start the dhcp server, but this seems to be fixed now06:21
manveru_ganymed: do you have a dhcp-server?06:22
manveru_ganymed: like a switch or another computer06:22
PanBlueCoalitionmanveru: haven't tried yet. i reverted to my old distro.06:23
_ganymedmanveru: it is installed, but only because ubuntu-minimal requires it. otherwise i would like to get rid of it (and of some other stuff).06:23
zer0timekkathman: ics under linux, 06:23
manveru_ganymed: you need a MTA....06:23
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kkathmanzer0time: ??06:24
_ganymedactually, i don't think so. i am not familiar with an mta...06:24
manveru_ganymed: but if you had the problem with dhcp, i think that your dhclient looks for a dhcp-server in the network, this takes forever if you don't disable it06:24
zer0timecan you read what I wrote before?06:24
zer0timekkathman: kkathman  I got 2 internet devices ra0 and eth0, ra0 is the one receiving internet traffic, eth0 and my xbox are connected with a crossed cable, and in windows, I share my conection for the xbox to go online, but under linux, I wonder if its possible, I tried firestarter app, not much results, please help06:24
zer0timewhen I enable ics in firestarter, it gives me an error06:25
zer0timeany clue?06:25
manverusorry, gotta go... somebody would help _ganymed ?06:26
kkathmanzer0time: well, ICS and Firestarter (which is just a front end for iptables) is about all thats possible I think.06:26
zer0timenot me, must be helped as well06:26
_ganymedthanks very much06:26
_ganymedi gotta go too. cu all06:26
_ganymedgreat channel 06:26
kkathmanzer0time: I dont know why you cant network everything and let your router do the work?06:26
kkathmanzer0time: I am assuming that you are networking now?06:27
zer0timewell, the ftp transfers are faster if the roter is not in the middle06:27
zer0timeand since I ftp my xbox, and do really big transfers06:27
zer0timeneed this setup06:27
kkathmanzer0time: so instead you want to take up cycles on your Linux box doing firewalling then06:28
kkathmanand if thats the case, firestarter/iptables is the right approach06:28
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zer0timeyeah, but how?06:28
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kkathmanthe router is cleaner and has a hard firewall too...just my 2cents06:29
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kkathmanzer0time: you'll need to basically configure your linux box as a router, and then NAT translate on the backend (but Im not a iptables expert)06:29
kkathmanIm not so sure that you'll get the performance you want06:30
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zer0timekkathman: dhcp server wont start06:32
zer0timedont know why06:32
snikkerhi, i must remove "lsb-base 3.0" and reinstall "lsb-base 2.0", how can i do?06:32
snikkerno ones?06:33
zer0timesudo apt-get remove lsb-base // sudo apt-get update // sudo apt-get install lsb-base06:34
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snikkerzer0time: ok, i try...06:35
snikkerzer0time: it say to me that fore remove lsb-base i must remove 425 packages :-(  No, another way?06:37
kkathmanzer0time: sorry had a phone call06:37
kkathmanzer0time: you have a connection to the net right? No problems there?06:38
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kkathmanzer0time: You might try reading this...its for RedHat, but the principles should be the same in Breezy: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-guide/s1-dhcp-configuring-server.html06:41
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kkathmanzer0time: or this might be better: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/DHCP-Server.html06:41
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Strike1damn I have no idead06:42
Strike1Idea how to fix this issue?06:42
kkathmanbrb06:42
Strike1My display is capable of 1280x800, but kubuntu will only show 1280x76806:43
CyberMadhow to find the version of glibc that we use in Linux? i'm using Kubuntu..06:43
kkathmanStrike1: you will need to do the configuration of your xorg.conf06:43
Strike1kkathman that doesnt work.06:44
Strike1I have tried that06:44
kkathmanStrike1: or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-corg06:44
Strike1In the xorg.conf it even shows 1280x80006:44
Strike1reconfigure screws everything up06:45
kkathmanProbably a driver then..not compatible with linux06:45
kkathmancheck with your manufacturer06:45
Strike1I have an ati mob radeon 9600 card06:45
kkathmanATI and Linux dont get along often06:45
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Strike4ceWell my 3d is working. I have a good image, but it doesnt fill the screen. Its just short 1206:46
Strike4ce1280x76806:46
Strike4ceneeds to be 1280x80006:47
Strike4ceWindows works06:47
kkathmanwell Im sure the driver was written for windows :)06:47
Strike4ceapparently, but xorg should have adapted their driver to fit a standard 1280x800 screen06:48
Strike4cenot 1280x768. Wtf???06:48
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kkathmanwell, no, Xorg doesnt really adapt a driver06:49
kkathmanXorg just uses what's available06:49
kkathmanit just sounds like there isnt a driver available for that video card...have you checked with ATI support?06:50
Strike4ceCan I replace the xorg driver with the ati rpm?06:50
kkathmanuhmm... I think some people say you can with something called "alien" but I dont know anything about it06:51
kkathmanis the source available?06:51
Strike4cekkathman yes alien and its on the official ati site06:52
Strike4ceSo I should uninstall the xorg driver?06:52
kkathmanif they are providing an open source driver, chances are the source is available...but maybe not, ATI is a little hostile to the LInux world06:52
Strike4ceand then try the new driver06:52
kkathmanHave you spoken to an ATI technician?06:53
Strike4cekkathman is that going to cost me?06:53
Strike4celol06:53
kkathmanno clue06:53
kkathmanusually not06:53
kkathmanbut I cant say for sure06:53
kkathmandid you buy the computer from a manufacturer or make it yourself?06:54
Strike4ceits a dell inspiron 8600 laptop06:56
kkathmanok, well I assume it came with windows :)06:56
kkathmanDell has good LInux technicians, but Im not sure they'll help you much unless they installed it (not likely)06:57
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kkathmanBut its worth a shot... believe it or not, I've actually had Dell techs help me on stuff when they didnt have to.06:57
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ubuntuHello06:58
ubuntu???06:59
kkathmanhello06:59
ubuntuThats my first trip to the Internet with Kubuntu today and i must say, Kubuntu is very good!07:00
kkathmanGlad you like it..welcome to the family :)07:00
ubuntuAre you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu?07:01
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ubuntu??07:02
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kkathmanmost of everyone in this channel I would believe are using Kubuntu07:04
kkathmanincluding myself07:04
ubuntuAha.07:06
Tm_TKubuntu <307:06
kkathmanwe are here to help if you have difficulties...any problems so far, ubuntu ?07:06
kkathmanTm_T: o/  good day my friend:)07:06
Tm_Thullo07:06
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ubuntuNo, thanks. Im just trying it from CD.07:07
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musikcan anyone here guide me on using jigdo?? on downloading cd iso with jigdo??07:07
kkathmanubuntu so you are using just the live CD then?07:07
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ubuntuThe problem here in Germany is that most of my friends don't like Linux and they say, Linux is not so good as Windows...07:08
ncetervalI just installed Kubuntu 5.10, what packages do I need to be able to compile software07:08
musikim using jigdo to download an iso.....but where is the iso getting saved???07:08
ubuntuI think Linux is much better07:08
kkathmanubuntu well they are different operating systems, of course, and both have advantages and disadvantages07:09
CyberMadhow do i install mysql-devel package from kubuntu by online?07:09
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tackatnceterval: depends on the software07:09
musiknceterval: build-essential, for kde apps u need kde devel packages too...07:09
kkathmanCyberMad: try installing Xampp07:09
kkathmanCyberMad: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html07:09
ncetervalmusik: I think build-essential is what I was looking for, thank you.07:09
kkathmanCyberMad: Thats an all in one apache, PHP and MySQL07:10
musiknceterval: welcome:)07:10
kkathmanCyberMad: but if you just want the mysql-dev,  you probably need to sudo apt-get install libmysqlclient14-dev  or something like that07:10
CyberMadCyberMad ah :) i ever use xampp before in windows and linux too :) it's nice, but does it ok use mysql (from xampp) with freeradius?07:10
kkathmando an apt-cache search libmysql  to get the exact package name, but thats close07:11
kkathmanCyberMad: cant speak to the freeradius, but I use Xampp exclusively...easiest and most reliable way to get that envirornment in my book07:12
ubuntuA question: Am I able to install Ubuntu/Kubuntu on my HD with a normal Windows partition? I had problems with this.07:12
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kkathmanubuntu: you can, yes, but there's alot to it...its complicated and its dangerous to an extent...if you try, be sure to back up everything!07:12
kkathmanubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo07:13
ubuntuBut why is it on a ext2 partition not so strenght?07:13
CyberMadkkathman thanks :)07:14
kkathmanCyberMad: no prob07:14
kkathmanubuntu: cuz thats the way it is :)07:14
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Strike4ceHow do i get this to go directly to my desktop? sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-old07:22
kkathmanwhat do you mean "go directly to your desktop" ?07:23
kkathmanthats a copy command07:23
Strike4ceI want it to copy to desktop07:23
kkathmanyou want to see the contents of the xorg.conf file?07:24
icewtcp /etc/X11/corg.conf ~/Desktop ?07:24
kkathman?07:24
icewtxorg.conf07:24
Strike4ceno, I want to make a backup copy so I can use it later if I need it07:24
kkathmanwhats wrong with your original command?07:24
kkathmanthats the right one07:24
Strike4ceHow do I find it? I dont know how07:24
kkathmanfind it?  It will be in /etc/X1107:25
kkathmannavigate to it07:25
kkathmancd07:25
kkathmancd /etc/X1107:25
kkathmanls -l07:25
kkathman?????07:25
Strike4cewhat is ls -1?07:26
Strike4cewhat does that mean?07:26
kkathmanthe equivalent of the dir in DOS07:26
icewtman ls07:26
kkathmanlists the files in a directory, with a long listing07:26
Strike4ceok so it will be called /etc/X11/xorg.conf-old07:26
kkathmanif you just want a list, just type ls07:26
kkathmanyes07:26
Strike4cels gives all the files?07:27
mariuxhow can i set konquerors timeout?07:27
kkathmanStrike4ce: all of the regular files, yes07:27
Strike4ceso X11 will be there?07:27
kkathmanStrike4ce:  if you want the system files, add an "a'....like  ls -la07:27
kkathmanX11 is a directory07:27
kkathmanso you navigate to the directory with "cd (change directory)"   cd /etc/X1107:28
kkathmanthat locates you to that directory level07:28
kkathmanthen ls -l  will show you all the files in that directory07:28
kkathmanor, use konqeror :)07:29
kkathmanhaha07:29
kkathmanhowdy nalioth  :)07:29
naliothkkathman: howdy professor07:29
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kkathmannalioth: Im not a prof anymore...you took my hat away last night :)07:29
kkathmanIm just a dweebie post grad I think07:30
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kkathmanHIya tvo :)07:30
naliothkkathman: only cuz ya interupted me on my favorite activity07:30
kkathmannalioth: well, I will know better next time...sorry bout that07:31
naliothkkathman: ya get your cronjob functioning, you program developer you?07:31
kkathmanI suppose...will know Friday07:31
tvoyo kkathman :)07:31
naliothkkathman: does it work when you run konvkill in terminal?07:32
kkathmanyes07:32
kkathmanI appreciated that #!bin/bash tidbit...that really sealed the deal :)07:33
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naliothso now we just need to get you sorted on "alias" and i can retire?07:36
Strike4cekkathman if i have a prolem with xorg.conf how do I start up the backup copy?07:36
Strike4cefrom cli07:37
naliothStrike4ce: a simple copy and rename of your backup and a X restart should suffice07:38
kkathmanStrike4ce: remove the new, bad one, then copy the old back07:38
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indrohi07:39
Strike4ceok07:39
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kkathmanhello indro :)07:39
indrohow i can open non-kde apps with katapult? is that possible?07:39
qoshey guys ...07:39
naliothi wouldn't rename tha backup, it the backup works, i'd copy and rename the copy07:39
kkathmanhi qos :)07:39
naliothindro: same way you open kde apps07:39
indrohi kkathman :)07:39
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kkathmannalioth: yah delete the conf file and cp the old07:40
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qoshas anybody tested krfb? i connecting from windows with ultravnc client to my kubuntu host, but the connection is simply bad.07:41
kkathmannalioth:  in his case:   rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf    then  cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-old /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:41
kkathmanqos I have not, sorry07:42
naliothkkathman: however it works07:42
tvoqos: I used it once, connection was reliable, but slow (but it was over the internet so that was to be expected)07:42
Strike4cewhat is the command to delete?07:43
mariuxrm07:43
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qostvo, i am testing over lan ... speed should be fine ;)07:43
Strike4ceso rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf?07:43
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tvoqos: yeah, can't help you then I guess :(07:44
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Strike4ceok what Im wanting to do is install the ati rpm driver. I will use alien then, should I uninstall the xorg driver or force insti the ATI driver?07:44
Strike4ceforce install07:44
naliothStrike4ce: what kkathman posted will work07:45
Strike4ceok you have any knowledge on the ATI scheme?07:45
indronolioth, ah yes you are right, i have tried with skype but that is not open source maybe because that it dont work... firefox also not work because it want open Firefox Central bookmark but i dont have this bookmark under konqueror, how i can start firefox with kapatult?07:45
Strike4ce!ati07:46
ubotuati is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1007:46
qosno problem, which remote server do you use? i was thinking about vnc4server ...07:46
Strike4cealready using that one07:46
Strike4ceI have the xorg driver currently installed. I want to install the Driver from the ATI website.07:46
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Strike4ceDo i need to uninstall the xorg driver and then install the officialati driver or can I force install?07:47
kkathmanStrike4ce: I dunno if there is a conflict between the two being installed at the same time. Again I'd have to refer you to the ATI folks :(07:48
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kkathmanoff hand, I'd say its not a great idea to have both..but I cant say for sure07:49
Strike4ceI dont want them installed at the same time07:49
indronalioth?07:49
Strike4ceI want the official ATI driver installed I currently have the xorg driver. SHould I remove it or force install the ATI driver?07:49
naliothindro: katapult should open anything you ask it to. perhaps it's the way you ask07:49
naliothStrike4ce: do either one, you can always go back to your backed up xorg.conf07:50
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Strike4ceok07:50
indroi did Alt + Space, then type firefox07:50
naliothStrike4ce: your machine is not gonna explode07:50
Strike4celol thanx for the reassurance This is my baby keeps my sanity when Im away from home07:50
indrocan you try that? then you see what i mean..07:51
Strike4ceim on my desktop its the abused redheaded stepchild07:51
tvoindro: it's a known problem that you can't choose between different matches in katapult07:51
Strike4ceMy laptop is the spoiled brat07:51
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Strike4ceMy wife hates the both LOL07:51
indrotwo, then it exist no way to start firefox with katapult?07:51
Strike4ceJealous bitch! LMAO!07:51
Strike4cewhat is the command for force install?07:52
indrotwo, do you know where is that firefox central bookmark? i think it work when i delete it but dont know where is it (dont find it under konqueror - bookmark)07:52
naliothindro: patience, i dont run breezy on this machine, and am consulting another07:52
naliothindro: your firefox bookmarks are in ~/.firefox or ~/.mozilla-firefox07:52
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indronalioth, its not a firefox bookmark, it open konqueror...07:53
naliothindro: then look in ~/.kde07:54
tvoindro: if you open it through katapult it's opened in the default browser07:54
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tvoby default, that's konqueror, also for firefox bookmarks07:54
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tvoalt+f2, type katapult and press enter :)07:55
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kkathmannalioth: Im finding less and less to excited about Katapult07:55
kkathmanI'd rather just use alt-F207:55
naliothkkathman: well, it's quite a rough beta07:55
kkathmannalioth: Oh no....Im sure its ok...just that I dont find it usefull07:55
KnowerrorsHow do you review the results of synaptic installing packages... the log or such of that?07:55
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nalioththis is vexin the snot outta me07:57
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indrotwo, yeah it was a firefox bookmark, deleted the bookmark, restart katapult, now it work, thanks :)07:57
kkathmannalioth: katapult?07:57
LinuxmasterHello07:57
naliothkkathman: yes, professor07:57
kkathmanwow Ubuntu you have been promoted to Linuxmaster!07:57
kkathmannalioth: had you started katapult before?07:58
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LinuxmasterIs there any way to change the KDE Desktop on the Kubuntu live-CD with the XPDE Desktop?07:58
LinuxmasterYes, I've changed my name07:58
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naliothLinuxmaster: you'll have to follow the steps at xpde.com, but be careful, you'll have to modify the steps, cuz theirs wont work as written07:59
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kkathmanLinuxmaster: why do you want to use XPDE?07:59
naliothwhats the magic key combo to bring up katapult?08:00
kkathmanand I doubt that you can change anything on the live CD :)08:00
naliothkkathman: sure ya can08:00
kkathmannalioth: alt-f2 then type katapult08:00
kkathmannalioth: really??? how can you do that when you are running off the CD?08:00
naliothkkathman: no pissed at you, but that is so redundant. why would i launch a launcher for a launcher?08:01
naliothkkathman: you can install anything you like on the livecd08:01
naliothkkathman: kind of useless if you ask me (all that work wasted when you power down)08:01
LinuxmasterThe XPDE Desktop is a bit nicer than the KDE Desktop08:01
kkathmannalioth: the idea is that you need only start katapult once that way..any time after that its available through alt-space08:01
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kkathmanLinuxmaster: To each his own but I doubt that...you've just brought up Kubuntu...how do you know?08:02
kkathmanLinuxmaster: KDE is INFINITELY configurable08:02
kkathmannalioth: so you basically type alt-f2, type katapult....thereafter its just alt-space and katapult comes up08:03
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naliothwell now i think even less of katapult08:03
LinuxmasterI said, that's the first trip Online with Kubuntu.08:04
kkathmanyes, like I said..I'll just put an icon on the desktop or on my tray for those things I need quickly, then alt-f2 and do anything else08:04
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kkathmanhehe08:05
=== kkathman feels exonerated...may I have my professor hat back now?
naliothkkathman: ya never lost it, bubba, just got whacked with it for interupting my ROTS08:07
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naliothkkathman: grr! no, i'm carryin on more than is necessary08:08
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kkathmannalioth: that #!bin/bash thing is that particular to ubuntu, cuz my Linux Administrator guide didnt mention it.08:09
LinuxmasterMakes it sence to install Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Edubuntu on an extern Hard Disk?08:09
naliothkkathman: it is NOT particular to ubuntu08:09
naliothLinuxmaster: it will not work on an external08:09
kkathmanyah yah yah...well if I have a resource here I dont go to Google, and my LInux admin guide has a whole section on writing shell scripts, but never mentioned #!bin/bash08:09
naliothkkathman: then it is lacking critical information08:10
kkathmanin fact it just said you can write the command and save it, chmod +X and yer done08:10
Blissexkkathman: well, I can confirm that is a very common UNIX thing.08:10
kkathmanyah well its a good thing ta know :)08:10
kkathmanand I learned it the hard way....head still hurt from being smacked08:10
Linuxmasternalioth: Is this true? Where's the problem? At the Ubuntuwebsite they say, you are able to install it on a USB Stick.08:10
Blissexkkathman: it may not be in the shell scripting chapter. Because it can be used for any scripting language. And it is a kernel feature, not a shell feature.08:10
naliothLinuxmaster: "IF" your machine supports booting from a USB stick08:11
naliothLinuxmaster: to my knowledge, lilo, grub and yaboot dont play well with external hard drives08:11
kkathmanBlissex: ahhh ok..perhaps thats it...the chapter I was reading particularly put a linux command on line 1 and an echo command on line two, had you save it and the allegedly execute it from the command line08:11
LinuxmasterAha, So I won't buy an external Hard Disk for Linux :-)08:12
kkathmanbut then I didnt read alot further blah blah  shame on me08:12
naliothLinuxmaster: sure you can, use it for storage08:12
kkathmanhmm booting from a USB..interesting concept...I think IBM does that on some of their machines in fact08:15
naliothkkathman: most newer vintage machines support it08:16
kkathmanright...but I believe you have to include it when you set up things in the BIOS...i.e. the sequence of bootable devices08:17
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naliothkkathman: up on your alias?08:20
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kkathmanThe TV show?08:22
naliothkkathman: the alias in you08:23
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slicslakwhat is the package name for the win32 codecs for mplayer?08:24
naliothubotu: tell slicslak about w32deb08:24
BlissexLinuxmaster: USB external hard drives are not very reliable. But Firewire ones are much better, especially if they have Oxford Semiconductor chipsets08:25
kkathmannalioth: you mean aliasing a long command using a smal one kind of thing right?08:25
kkathmanThe only time I would use an ext USB drive is for backup or recovery purposes08:26
naliothkkathman: yes, it's quite addictive08:26
kkathmanbut others may disagree08:26
kkathmanyah hehe08:26
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kkathmanthe only one I have is "gh"08:27
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Cenuijheyas, could someone point me at a mirros where i can grab some packages?08:31
Cenuijmirror*08:31
kkathmanoh wait I forgot I have ulb too.  gh = go home = cd /~  and ulb is cd /usr/local/bin :)08:31
naliothkkathman: did you know "cd" takes you home?08:32
kkathmanyah08:32
kkathmanif you arent at root I guess08:33
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kkathmanbut I can see if you are a big command line guru using pipes and the like, aliases would be much more useful08:34
naliothkkathman: aliases are supposed to save you typing08:35
kkathmanright exactly..thats why I say that a command line guru that uses all those things could really make use of aliases :)08:36
naliothfor instance, "alias build=./cofigure && make && sudo checkinstall" get me 3 commands and a built deb for 5 letters and an enter key08:36
kkathmanexcellent example :)08:36
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tvodoes anyone know how I can force konsole to reload .bash_profile?08:45
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slicslaknalioth, thanks08:49
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naliothtvo: "source bash_profile"08:49
tvonalioth: cool, thanks08:50
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naliothtvo: any text rc file(s) you want to be immediately taken notice of you can "source"08:50
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_masterhi someone can help me to configure samba08:57
_masteri use kubuntu 5.1008:57
_masterand when i put the adm pwd doesn't work why08:58
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kkathman!samba09:06
ubotusamba is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently09:06
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indrohi09:07
indrohow i can hibernate from kde?09:07
indro?09:10
tvoindro: laptop or desktop?09:10
indrolaptop09:10
tvothen I don't know, there should be a klaptopdaemon which handles hibernation I think09:11
tvothough I have no laptop, so I'm just guessing09:12
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indroits there, thx n'cya :)09:14
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baschtHey. Does anyone know why the <Alt>+<F2> Shortcut is broken in Kubuntu 5.10's Gnome-Installation?09:26
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kkathmanbascht: if you installed just kubuntu, you dont have gnome09:29
kkathmanalt-f2 works fine in KDE tho09:30
baschtkthathman: It works fine in KDE, I know. But I also installed the Gnome-Desktop-Package. :)09:31
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nyarltepsup fellas09:36
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nyarltepi am happy un09:37
nyarltepubuntu recognized my usb wifi device09:37
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at1as09:37
nyarltepi switch from a live cd to a real intall09:37
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nyarltepit loads webpages faster than my recent xp install09:38
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matrixhi09:39
matrixis kaffeine's dvb tv part broken?09:40
icewtmatrix: works fine for me09:40
icewtwatching tv at the moment09:40
matrixicewt: i can scan channels but dont get all. one stations seems to be out of range.09:40
matrixso scanning runs infinite09:41
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matrixi do stop scanning and add the rest of the channels09:41
matrixafter klicking done kaffeine just hangs up09:41
matrixwith the next kaffeine start up i can see the channels i found but they are greyed out09:42
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icewthmm.. strange. i guess it depends on the defined scanning range09:42
icewtah, well, that's because you don't have kaffeine-xine installed09:42
icewtinstall it and select settings -> player engine -> xine09:42
matrixicewt thx allot09:44
matrixplayback is choppy09:44
icewtyou could look at settings -> xine engine parameters -> video -> and try different "Videodrivers". xv should be the best in most cases09:45
matrixjust chose xv09:46
matrixstill copy09:46
matrixsound is fluently09:46
matrixpictures complete no artefacts but half frame rate feeling09:46
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icewti got no sound until i installed gstreamer0.8-plugins - not sure what was needed of the packages it included though09:48
icewtbut that's pretty much all i have done09:48
matrixsound is fine09:48
matrixwhen i choose nv it says can't init new Video Driver xv - using auto09:48
matrixhm09:48
icewttry player -> video -> turn deinterlacing off09:49
icewti must say though that kaffeine takes over twice as much resources as vdr+gxine combination09:50
icewtfor some reason kaffeine is a real resource hog when watching dvb09:50
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laszlokwhere would i report a bug for systemsettings?10:01
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fatbrainHow can I avoid having to type ./executable?10:07
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Dark^JediHi folks, are there packages for OpenTTD in Kubuntu anywhere?10:07
fatbrainI just want to typ "executable"10:07
|mp|hi - suddenly there is extreme cpu use on my system...10:08
|mp|like kded using 20-30% cpu10:08
|mp|even kmix using 12%10:08
|mp|any ideas what could be causing this?10:08
qatsihi all !...im having trubbles with LimeWire install, it says i need to have java 1.4.2 or higher, i do have 1.4.2, and when i do ./runLime.sh it displays an error saying that i dont have a valid JRE...any idea ?10:08
|mp| 7313 root      19   0 43780  24m 3188 R 50.2  6.7  10:15.49 Xorg10:08
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laszlokfatbrain: what are you trying to run?10:09
fatbrainIt's a tool I just downloaded10:09
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qatsianyone with the java install ?10:09
laszlokfatbrain: If the executable if in the current folder, you have to type ./executable, but if its in your path then you can just type executable10:09
fatbrainok, thanks10:10
qatsiuhmm, anyone knows what to do with the java during LimeWire install ?10:10
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Dark^JediLet me just try again - Anyone know of any packages for OpenTTD for Kubuntu?10:12
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laszlokqatsi: type in the terminal "java -version" without the quotes10:13
frank23qatsi: the java you have now is probably the gnu java which is not a complete implementation10:14
frank23!java10:14
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb10:14
frank23!javadeb10:14
ubotuI heard javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)10:14
qatsifrank23: ok, maybe thats it, should i install JRE ?10:15
qatsilaszlok: i have version 1.4.210:15
frank23qatsi: what is the complete last line of java -version?10:15
qatsifrank23: version 4.0.2 2005080810:16
frank23gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) ?10:16
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frank23if you want the latest java go here http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf10:17
qatsifrank23: gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)10:17
qatsifrank23: yes, im already there, thanx :) nalioth managed to make me go there :p10:17
Sonny_Wertzikhas anyone here successfully compiled the new ksmoothdock 3.6?10:17
frank23qatsi: ok10:17
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qatsishould i download JRE or JSDK ?10:18
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laszlokqatsiL SDK is the development kit10:19
frank23qatsi: jre is fine: java runtime environment10:19
qatsilaszlok frank23 thanx, ill donwload the jre :)10:19
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qatsibrb10:20
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Strike4ceHow do I get into the command screen?10:25
kkathmanStrike4ce: where are you now?10:25
Strike4celol I installed the official ati driver but there is a problem10:25
slow-motionn810:25
Strike4cescreen is up but its all messed up10:26
kkathmanStrike4ce: ok...so... try ctrl-alt-F110:26
kkathmanthats should take you to a console10:26
kkathmanassuming you got to KDE :)10:26
Strike4ceI have the main page up and its blue but its all distorted10:27
Strike4ceI need to get out of it10:27
kkathmanStrike4ce: so it looks like you got to KDE? Then hit ctrl-alt-F1 should take you to a console, if you can10:27
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Strike4ceok got it thanx10:28
kkathmangreat!10:29
Strike4ceI dont know what to do now?10:30
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matrixre10:32
matrixso its now up and running, after i setup my fglrx driver10:32
kkathmanStrike4ce: well you could go back to your working xorg.conf10:32
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Strike4cehmm maybe I need to uninstall the standard restricted modules10:33
kkathmanStrike4ce: or try a different resolution10:33
kkathmanwas there something terribly wrong with the 1280 x 1024?10:33
naliothVESA is always an option10:33
kkathmanI prefer American Express myself, nalioth :)10:34
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naliothkkathman: ?10:34
flixorevening everybody 10:35
kkathmanhey flixor  :)10:35
flixorhya kkathman 10:36
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kkathmanfedora is such a bloated install...I'd NEVER EVER use it again!10:36
flixorwhy did you use it in the firstplace kkathman :) 10:36
kkathmanflixor: I was trying distros, like we all do :)10:36
libbendo we?10:36
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libbeni just tried two10:37
naliothy'all dont be so hard on folks, redhat IS the most famous linux distro10:37
libbenred hat and debian10:37
naliothi started with it many many years ago10:37
libbenand then ubuntu and then kubuntu10:37
Strike4cedoes gdm stop x?10:37
flixorehm, well this is my first distro and i stick with it 10:37
kkathmanflixor: I started with Red Hat 9 which was ok, but it didnt recognize some older hardware I had on some machines10:37
flixorkee, well everything is allmost good on this box 10:37
libbeni used redhat 5.6 i think it was.10:37
libbenthen debian10:37
flixorexcept for my promise dma controller 10:37
Strike4ceHow do I stop x?10:38
flixorwich i fix when i compiled the kernel 10:38
kkathmanbecause of that I trired FC4 and it was just bloated10:38
kkathmanthen I tried, Mandrake, Libranet and finally Ubuntu10:38
kkathmanLIbranet was pretty kewl, but they had too many broken packages :(10:38
Strike4ceCan anyone tell me how to stop x?10:38
kkathmanlibben: I almost tried debian but stumbled on Ubuntu first10:39
libbendebian the only choice if u really wanna be a true linux user =) 10:39
libbenand ubuntu/kubuntu falls under that to10:40
kkathmanStrike4ce: try ctrl-alt-backspace10:40
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flixorlol, well for me linux is linux they all got a / directory 10:40
flixor:)10:40
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kkathmanhaha flixor  :)10:40
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naliothStrike4ce: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop10:41
MarsHi I have problem I installed BitTornado (and BitTorrent) by apt-get but now i dont know how to run it10:41
naliothkkathman: ctrl-alt-backspace boomerangs X10:41
kkathmannalioth: sorry10:41
raphinkMars: the programs begin with bt10:41
raphinkbttrack, btdownload, btdownloadgui10:41
raphinketc.10:41
naliothMars: open a console and type "btdownloadcurses file.torrent" or install bittornado-gui and use it instead10:41
kkathmannalioth: I never know where Strike4ce is on a screen10:42
raphinkor get qtorrent ;)10:42
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Jeevananyone know of any programs that can record microphone input from console?10:42
kkathmanor use the bit torrent on the K menu :)10:42
naliothkkathman: not ktorrent, i hope10:42
kkathmannalioth: the one thats under K-menu, Internet10:43
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MarsIntresting my liquid weather theme is not updateing weather10:46
kkathmanI was into superkaramba for a while, but it tends to eat CPU cycles and warms the chip :)10:48
naliothMars: sometimes my weather applet doesnt update, either (the panel one)10:49
naliothkkathman: chip warming works well in the winter10:49
icewtit's good taking for "cool" screenshots but that's about it ;)10:49
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kkathmannalioth: lol. My chip was much warmer than I like it.  I had to take the sides of and put an external fan on :(10:52
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Losdowhi, i just installed the kubuntu desktop package from gnome, and restarted, the kde login screen came up but once i login the gnome-look returns. Theres a lot of new stash in my menus though. Do i need to disable gnome somehow? I switched to kdm in the installation.10:54
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foampeacehello10:55
naliothkkathman: Losdow in sessions, you choose "kde"10:55
naliothLosdow: at the login screen10:55
foampeacehello10:55
Losdowok ill try10:56
foampeacecan someone tell me how kcrom works? does it do its own thing or is under control by the cron services?10:56
foampeacekcron10:56
foampeacei wonder if kde would change its name sounds like gayde10:56
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Strike4cehowdo I start my old configuration?10:56
LeeJunFanw!ngchun10:57
kkathmanStrike4ce: did you copy your old xorg.conf back?10:57
kkathmanhey LeeJunFan  :)10:57
LeeJunFankkathman: 10:57
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foampeaceso i was wondering about kcron...would kron just put them into cron services? i have cron execute xmms everyday10:57
Losdownice! thanks for the help10:57
foampeacewhere would the cron info settings be shown on the filesystem10:58
Strike4ceyes10:58
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kkathmanfoampeace: you can view them in kcron10:58
foampeacekkathman: ya i know, just wondering where the configuration isin the filesystem10:59
kkathmanoh... hmm..no clue10:59
Strike4cehow do I start from the old xorg.conf file?10:59
kkathmanfoampeace: look under /etc  lots of cron stuff there11:00
kkathmanStrike4ce: did you copy it back?11:00
foampeacekkathman: ya i thought to look there but saw nothing11:00
Strike4cewhat do you mean?11:00
Strike4cei probably need to uninstall the official ati driver11:01
kkathmanStrike4ce: rm the old file, then cp the old11:01
kkathmanoops11:01
kkathmanStrike4ce:  you named your old file like xorg.conf-old right?11:02
kkathmanremember copying that?11:02
Strike4ceyes11:02
LeeJunFankkathman: so you like that? That little blurb I just typed in up there that seemed to make no sense?11:02
kkathmanok so... right now you have your current xorg.conf that isnt working right?11:02
kkathmanLeeJunFan: its ok...I know you meant well :)11:03
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Strike4ceyes kkathman11:03
Strike4ceits up11:03
LeeJunFankkathman: well, that's because of active window follows mouse, I typed my damn root password in the wrong window :D hahah, nothing like giving your root away on IRC.11:03
kkathmanStrike4ce: so... you need to rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf  (the one that doesnt work)11:03
kkathmanStrike4ce: then cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-old /etc/X11/xorg.conf   (to use your backup)11:04
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LeeJunFankkathman: yeah :D well it WAS the passwd,for about 2 seconds after that.11:05
kkathmanlol11:05
LeeJunFankkathman: could be worse, I could have rm -rf /11:05
LeeJunFanor mkswap /dev/hda11:05
kkathmantrue that...or done a /msg nickserv identify in the channel11:05
LeeJunFanheheh.11:05
LeeJunFanI did that once, cd /tmp then rm -rf *, only I typoed on the cd and didn't pay attention to the error, left me in the last dir I was in (/), so I rm -rf'ed /, I noticed it right after I started but not before it wiped out /etc on a mailserver with about 5000 clients.11:07
LeeJunFanthat was a fun night.11:07
foampeaceanyone know where kcron stores its config files?11:08
kkathmanlol LeeJunFan  thats one mistake you ONLY make once11:09
foampeacei need to learn cron11:09
LeeJunFanThe system was of course pretty much a loss with plenty of files missing all over, but /var/spool/mail was spared, so I ripped the HD out of the primary mailserver and threw it in a standby and mounted /var/spool/mail off the hold HD :)11:09
LeeJunFankkathman: you bet.11:09
kkathmanfoampeace: just use kcron..it works great11:09
foampeaceit didnt really11:09
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kkathmanfoampeace: why?? its great!!11:09
foampeacekkathman: it was supposed to wake me up with xmms11:09
kkathmanyou put in what you want to do and then set the times and the interface is very easy11:10
kkathmanfoampeace: was crond running on your system?11:10
foampeace2 days in a row...the xmms wouldnt start to wake me up...how do you explain this to an employer if i had one heh11:10
icewti think xmms has it's own alarm function (?)11:11
kkathmanwell personally I'd get an alarm clock that was battery operated :)11:11
foampeacewell i didnt phone in because my cron daemon wasnt on...dont fire me11:11
icewtxmms-alarm11:12
foampeaceicewt: ya that didnt work either11:12
kkathmanhmm Im seeing a bigger problem here then11:12
foampeacedi wonder if it has to do with the screensaver or a conflict with streamtuner...i put streamtuner on at night and the alarm to go off for the morning11:13
foampeacekkathman: does crond show as cron?11:13
kkathmanyes that was a typo :)11:13
kkathmansorry bout that11:13
foampeacethen its there11:14
foampeacecan i test it for today?11:14
kkathmansure11:14
kkathmanwhy not11:14
Strike4ceok time for another reinstall11:15
foampeace is this the way i execute it in kcron ?xmms audioslave.pls11:15
foampeacekron only does in 5 min intervals11:15
kkathmanfoampeace: so you wanna wake up at 7:58?11:15
Strike4cewhat is the command to start kde?11:16
foampeaceno matter..im just testing so i have to wait 5 mins to see if it works11:16
kkathmanoh  haha... yah 5 mins11:16
kkathmanStrike4ce: I think its kdeinit11:18
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foampeacewhy does it sound like gayde11:19
foampeacehow bout a new name11:19
foampeacelets think of a new one11:20
foampeacewhat does kde stand for11:20
icewtk desktop environment11:20
foampeacekkathman: xmms didnt go off11:20
foampeacei must not be doing it right11:21
foampeacedoes kcron have to be open?11:21
foampeacereading handbook11:24
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qoshey guys ...11:25
qosi ve got two new kubuntu machines, one is my desktop one is my server... how can i easiliy work from my desktop with the GUI from the server?11:26
kkathmanfoampeace:  hmmm11:27
kkathmanfoampeace: no kcron shouldnt have to be open11:27
kkathmanthe cron process has to be running11:27
izutqos: You can use Xnest and open a remote desktop there.11:28
qoshow to do this?11:28
kkathmanfoampeace: may be a dumb question but you DID save the crontab right?11:29
kkathmani.e. you went to File --> Save ?11:30
foampeacecront didnt go off again hmmm11:30
foampeacei saved yes11:30
foampeacemaybe i have to run as root11:31
foampeacehow can user edit etc files11:31
kkathmanno you dont have to run as root11:32
kkathmanthere are some suggestions in the help11:32
naliothqos: use xforwarding11:33
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naliothizut: why xnest? xforwarding is built into the xserver11:33
izutnalioth: Dunno xforwarding.11:34
naliothizut: it's a basic feature of X11:34
naliothno extra proggys needed11:34
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izutYou mean: export DISPLAY=$REMOTE_HOST:0 ?11:35
foampeacekkathman: ya the help doesnt say much11:36
naliothizut: i mean enable xforwrding in your ssh config on teh server and start an x session over ssh from the client11:36
kkathmanfoampeace: ok...well Im stumped then...cuz it should work11:36
izutnalioth: I thought he wanted both desktops at same time like rdesktop or vnc...11:36
foampeacekkathman: im trying without the run every day option11:37
naliothqos appears asleep at this time, anyway11:37
foampeacethe kcron command works, but it does not execute at the scheduled time11:42
foampeacemaybe it has to do with the cron daemon itself11:42
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zoldarhello, does anybody know, from where can I get msttcorefonts package? I doesn't seem to be available even in universe/multiverse ...?11:44
nalioth!info msttcorefonts11:45
ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB11:45
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naliothzoldar: look again, please11:45
zoldarok thanks11:45
kkathmannalioth: you type so fast :)11:45
naliothkkathman: i'm an advanced AI11:45
kkathmanfoampeace: if you think there is a bug, you can report it at bugzilla.ubuntu.com11:45
kkathmannalioth: yes I know :)11:46
foampeacekkathman: do you know how to start and stop the cron daemon?11:48
kkathmanfoampeace: why do you want to do that?11:48
kkathmancron is designed to start once and run forever11:49
foampeacekkathman: i mean restart it11:49
foampeaceno restart?11:49
kkathmanthere are no parameters for cron that I know of11:50
kkathmanfoampeace: you can have cron re-read its crontab I think with crontab -e  or something like that11:50
kkathmanyou might try crontab -l to see if your job is there tho11:52
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foampeac1trying gcrontab11:57
mth`MAWGood night11:59
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rysiekhello guys11:59
rysiekanybody here? :)11:59
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naliothrysiek: no we're all in alaska, watching the whales12:00
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