[12:03] <kkathman> If I right click on the toolbar...still another
[12:04] <Chizn> how do i write dvds in kde?
[12:04] <sorush20> kkathman: I wanted to edit the menu section that suggests action to take.. or just the main section so I can more to and copy to a different locaiton.
[12:05] <shrinkyjL[os] ``> how do i change the shortcut on konquerer
[12:05] <shrinkyjL[os] ``> i want to use mozilla firefox instead
[12:05] <flixor> Chizn, you could use a program wich is called k3b 
[12:05] <flixor> i used it and it works like a charm i must say 
[12:05] <Chizn> flixor, i use that does it work by default for burning dvd data discs?
[12:06] <flixor> when you start k3b does it says its missing programs 
[12:06] <nalioth> Chizn: it burns any kind of discs, what exactly are you wanting to know?
[12:06] <flixor> because if not it will burn th dvd 
[12:06] <kkathman> sorush20: try starting in your home directory and the .kde directory
[12:07] <kkathman> sorush20: then go to the share directory and examine those config files
[12:08] <flixor> rightclick on the konquror shortcut go to properties and then to the third (right) and there you can change the app wich you want to start with that shortcut
[12:08] <flixor> shrinkyjL[os] ``, rightclick on the konquror shortcut go to properties and then to the third (right) and there you can change the app wich you want to start with that shortcut
[12:08] <sorush20> kkathman: thanks.. 
[12:09] <shrinky_> flixor, thanks
[12:09] <flixor> yes i am glad that i could be of help overhere :) most question are above my head 
[12:10] <flixor> but i learn a lot overhere and there ( in other channels)
[12:10] <nalioth> having a bad storm here
[12:11] <nalioth> flixor: you need to add the missing programs (they are optional, which is why adept doesnt install them)
[12:11] <shrinky_> i found an easier way to get the firefox shortcut, thanks anyway
[12:12] <flixor> well you could copy one from your start menu or whatever its called on linu 
[12:12] <flixor> nalioth, you mean for k3b 
[12:13] <nalioth> flixor: yes, sorry i got d/c due to a bad storm here
[12:13] <flixor> kee  
[12:14] <flixor> man nalioth i am so excited i am going to compile my first kernel today or tonight i am already donwloading the kernel-tree :)
[12:14] <flixor> downloading is a bit slow though but we have the time tonight 
[12:14] <kkathman> kewl flixor, hope you have better luck than me today :(
[12:14] <flixor> oh my god what happend 
[12:14] <Mars> Hi
[12:14] <flixor> hya mars
[12:14] <Mars> I have problem with superkaramba
[12:14] <kkathman> I compiled an app, it was ok, but didnt work :(
[12:14] <flixor> well kkathman i just following a tutorial so i have it works 
[12:15] <kkathman> Hi Mars
[12:15] <flixor> well i hope indeed that i have better luck 
[12:15] <kkathman> whats the prob with SK ?
[12:15] <flixor> well while downloading i have to find out how this bootloader grub works 
[12:16] <nalioth> flixor: enjoy
[12:16] <kkathman> ugh...grub bleh
[12:16] <Mars> Problem is that when i am trying to run some themes i cant see anything.There is nothing more than a transparental square. 
[12:16] <kkathman> Mars: whats you prob with SK ?
[12:16] <flixor> yes i am already doing that :) well you notice your selfs if i dont come online afterwards lol 
[12:17] <kkathman> Mars: you might need to right click on the settings, if there are some to set the font colors
[12:17] <kkathman> or...you can modify the python too
[12:17] <kkathman> at least usually you can :)
[12:18] <Mars> I mean that there is nothing. I was trying with theme showing weather and later with one showing moon. 
[12:18] <Joseph> Hello.
[12:18] <Joseph> Can anyone help me? Whenever I restart Kubuntu GRUB doesn't show up, and I tried reinstalling and it still doesn't show up. :(
[12:18] <kkathman> Hi Joseph :)
[12:18] <Joseph> Or restart the computer.
[12:18] <Joseph> Hey again kkathman!
[12:18] <kkathman> hmm
[12:18] <Joseph> I fixed my problem the other day.
[12:19] <Joseph> Someone recommended installing the nvidia drivers. :)
[12:19] <kkathman> dual-booting?
[12:19] <Joseph> Yes.
[12:19] <Mars> Maybe i need to update my SK?
[12:19] <kkathman> Mars, no...just check the font colors
[12:19] <kkathman> Joseph...so you can start from a cold start and you get the GRUB?
[12:20] <Joseph> No.
[12:20] <kkathman> ohh
[12:20] <Joseph> I restart, and I don't get GRUB.
[12:20] <Joseph> It doesn't show up, just boots windows. o.O
[12:20] <kkathman> Restart = reset or power off/power on?
[12:20] <Joseph> Reset.
[12:20] <Joseph> ;)
[12:20] <Joseph> My mom turned off the computer this morning though.
[12:20] <Joseph> When she took the computer cord away. ><
[12:20] <kkathman> ahh... what happens when you turn the computer off completely?
[12:21] <kkathman> LOL
[12:21] <Joseph> Maybe that had something to do with it?
[12:21] <kkathman> uhoh
[12:21] <Joseph> I don't know, I haven't tried it yet.
[12:21] <Joseph> o.O
[12:21] <kkathman> well hopefully she didnt unplug it while it was on or booting
[12:21] <Joseph> I just came home from school, and GRUB wouldn't start.
[12:21] <Joseph> -.-
[12:21] <Joseph> She might have, I'm thining not though.
[12:21] <Joseph> *thinking
[12:22] <kkathman> Im a parent, but would never unplug a computer while the computer was on!
[12:22] <Joseph> My mom doesn't know much about computers. :(
[12:22] <flixor> kkathman, what is the name of the latest kubuntu version 
[12:22] <flixor> hoary or breezy 
[12:22] <Joseph> 5.04
[12:22] <crimsun> flixor: 5.10
[12:22] <kkathman> Breezy 5.10
[12:22] <crimsun> (Breezy)
[12:22] <Joseph> Breezy Badger
[12:22] <flixor> oke thanks guys 
[12:22] <Joseph> yeah.
[12:22] <Joseph> yay!
[12:22] <Joseph> o.O
[12:22] <kkathman> Joseph, was the computer on when you came home?
[12:23] <Joseph> No.
[12:23] <Joseph> The computer cord was in, and, the computer was off.
[12:23] <Joseph> I had to turn it on.
[12:23] <kkathman> and you turned it on..and it didnt give you the grub?
[12:23] <Joseph> No.
[12:23] <Joseph> Even when I reinstalled.
[12:23] <Joseph> MAN, I get ALL the tough problems, don't I? :(
[12:23] <kkathman> ooo weird
[12:23] <kkathman> hmm
[12:23] <Joseph> Maybe I configured grub wrong?
[12:23] <Joseph> I did (hd0,1)
[12:23] <kkathman> I might have to turn you over to good ol crimsun
[12:24] <Joseph> oh noes, not teh crimson! ;)
[12:24] <crimsun> ?
[12:24] <Joseph> wh00ps
[12:24] <Joseph> i spelled it wrong. xD
[12:24] <kkathman> GRUB isnt my thing cuz I dont dual boot :)
[12:24] <Joseph> lol.
[12:24] <Joseph> ;)
[12:24] <kkathman> crimsun: dunno whats goin on...he reinstalled GRUB and doesnt get a boot
[12:24] <Joseph> I wish I didn't but I got things to play man!
[12:24] <kkathman> used to tho
[12:24] <Joseph> wh00ps
[12:24] <Joseph> I meant games, not things. xD
[12:25] <kkathman> Joseph: is your windows system ok? when it boots?
[12:25] <Joseph> Yep.
[12:25] <Mars> kkathman, Look at my desktop http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1311/zrzutekranu35jm.png and search for transparental square. I was moving it
[12:25] <Joseph> Very nice desktop Mars. :)
[12:25] <kkathman> yah nice :)
[12:26] <Mars> Joseph, Thanks I am working to make it better :)
[12:26] <Joseph> So is Crimsun going to help me? ><
[12:26] <kkathman> I dont see a blank square tho
[12:26] <kkathman> I dunno..you'll have to ask him :)
[12:26] <Joseph> >: (
[12:26] <Joseph> lol
[12:26] <kkathman> or give him a cookie
[12:26] <Joseph> I WANT TEH COOKIE! ><
[12:27] <Mars> kkathman, It's there
[12:27] <Joseph> Aww man. :(
[12:27] <Joseph> I need help. ><
[12:27] <kkathman> Mars: Did you try right clicking on the app?
[12:27] <Mars> Yes
[12:27] <kkathman> Mars: and?
[12:28] <treefrog> has anyone susessfully chased the install of the deb version of skype ?? my install is looking for libqt3c102 mt is that in a repos that i need to enable?
[12:28] <kkathman> treefrog: just sudo apt-get install it
[12:28] <crimsun> libqt3c102-mt does not exist in Breezy/5.10
[12:28] <Joseph> crimsun, yay
[12:28] <crimsun> its replacement is libqt3-mt
[12:28] <Joseph> can you help me?
[12:28] <kkathman> look for libqt
[12:28] <Mars> kkathman, nothing
[12:28] <crimsun> Joseph: I don't know, can I?
[12:28] <jsubl2> !find skype
[12:28] <kkathman> Mars -   nothing??
[12:28] <Joseph> Maybe.. o.O
[12:28] <Joseph> Can anyone help me? Whenever I restart Kubuntu GRUB doesn't show up, and I tried reinstalling and it still doesn't show up. :(
[12:29] <Joseph> Thats what I said.
[12:29] <Joseph> So yeah..
[12:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'skype' (1 shown): (/usr/share/ubuntu-docs/gnome/menus/C/skype.xml) in text/ubuntu-docs.
[12:29] <Joseph> o.O
[12:29] <simonsbr> i use kubuntu and hava problem to configure pppoe someone know a package to correct it? i have two eth
[12:29] <treefrog> conflicting .. err did that .. I'll look again. 
[12:29] <crimsun> Joseph: what's the other OS?
[12:29] <kkathman> I think theres definitely something wrong with the app then...all SK's have a right click so you can do various things with em
[12:29] <Joseph> Kubuntu, 5.10
[12:29] <simonsbr> yes
[12:29] <crimsun> Joseph: you have two Kubuntu installs on the same drive?
[12:29] <Joseph> o.o
[12:29] <simonsbr> Joseph: 
[12:30] <Joseph> No, just windows and linux.
[12:30] <crimsun> Joseph: so which Windows?
[12:30] <flixor> ehm it seems that i have some dep problems overhere lol 
[12:30] <Joseph> XP. :(
[12:30] <Joseph> I wish I had 2000 professional.
[12:30] <crimsun> Joseph: did you choose guided partitioning in the installer?
[12:31] <Joseph> Yes.
[12:31] <Joseph> How'd you know?!
[12:31] <Joseph> Well sort of.
[12:31] <crimsun> Joseph: and it installed correctly, correct?
[12:31] <Joseph> I chose, redistribute free space, or w/e
[12:31] <Joseph> I think so, it didn't say anything.
[12:31] <Mars_^> kkathman,  square in my desktop isnt blank but transparental
[12:31] <jsubl2> treefrog: try updating your sources from this location - http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic  -- then try to install skype
[12:31] <crimsun> Joseph: so when you reboot, it boots directly into XP?
[12:31] <flixor> kkathman, i cant install this program libqt3-mt-dev i get this error message 
[12:31] <Joseph> Yep. :(
[12:31] <treefrog> K
[12:31] <kazu> Hello there
[12:31] <Joseph> Whats up. :)
[12:31] <crimsun> Joseph: is this on a SCSI HD?
[12:31] <jsubl2> seveas maintains a skype package it appears
[12:31] <Joseph> I.. don't know.
[12:31] <Joseph> o.O
[12:32] <Joseph> Seagate, I think.
[12:32] <Joseph> I don't remember.
[12:32] <flixor> e volgende pakketten hebben niet-voldane vereisten:
[12:32] <flixor>   libqt3-mt-dev: Vereisten: libpng12-0-dev
[12:32] <Joseph> I know I bought it like a couple of years ago.
[12:32] <flixor> wich is saying that it needs libpng12-0-dev 
[12:32] <flixor> but that one i cant install either. Its saying De volgende pakketten hebben niet-voldane vereisten:
[12:32] <flixor>   libpng12-dev: Vereisten: libpng12-0 (= 1.2.8rel-1ubuntu3) maar 1.2.8rel-5 zal genstalleerd worden
[12:32] <sorush20> how do I change the gui font of OOo, ? 
[12:32] <flixor> ehm sorry for the spam 
[12:32] <crimsun> Joseph: no idea what type of HD it is? IDE? SCSI? SATA?
[12:32] <Joseph> o.
[12:32] <Joseph> *oh.
[12:32] <SpecialBuddy> does anyone know how to install kooldock
[12:32] <Joseph> i think its IDE.
[12:32] <Joseph> because it says
[12:32] <Joseph> modify ide
[12:33] <Joseph> or w/e
[12:33] <Joseph> ;)
[12:33] <kazu> Just a short question if one of you add 2mins :) did someone know why the writing, reading to a fat32 on the same hdd of my ext3 could be slow in reading and writing ?
[12:33] <crimsun> Joseph: do you have a Ubuntu or Kubuntu live CD handy?
[12:33] <Joseph> Yep.
[12:33] <Joseph> I ordered 10 Ubuntu CDs, not the latest version though. xD
[12:33] <crimsun> Joseph: boot into it
[12:33] <Joseph> I got them right before Breezy Badger came out.
[12:33] <Joseph> Hold no.
[12:33] <Joseph> BRB.
[12:34] <shrinky_> How do i install ActiveX?
[12:34] <kazu> Joseph you have to overwrite the mbr grub or lilo boot programm
[12:34] <flixor> activeX ?? do you want to install that on linux and i dont think its possible shrinky_ 
[12:34] <jsubl2> shrinky_: linux does not have activeX
[12:35] <kazu> so is someone could help me ? please :p
[12:35] <flixor> how slow is it kazu 
[12:35] <shrinky_> i heard you can install it
[12:35] <jsubl2> kazu: i don't write often enough to fat32 to help you
[12:35] <shrinky_> because you may need it to install a game for wine
[12:36] <kkathman> flixor:  lemme see real quick
[12:36] <flixor> kazu, maybe you could tweak your hd with hdparm 
[12:36] <kazu> hum it's working but taking quite a long to oving big files ....jsubl2 a lot more than if I copy from a ext3 to an ext3
[12:36] <kazu> tweak what does that mean ? ( i am french sorry :p )
[12:36] <Mars_^> kkathman,  i right clicked on theme and edited. Thats whats in it: KARAMBA  X=754 Y=525 W=250 H=200 INTERVAL=3600000 LOCKED=true
[12:36] <flixor> ehm i am dutch :) 
[12:37] <kkathman> flixor: should be able to do a sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt and/or libqt3-mt-dev
[12:37] <kkathman> they are both in the repos
[12:37] <flixor> yes but i got a dependency problem when i do that 
[12:37] <kazu> i am looking in a dictionnary :p
[12:37] <nalioth> flixor: ah, i smell non ubuntu repositories in your system
[12:37] <kkathman> Mars can you ctrl-click or ctrl-right-click ?
[12:37] <kkathman> on it
[12:37] <jsubl2> flixor: i think tweaking hard drive params is rarely needed... normally the kernel sets it up fine
[12:38] <kazu> ok jsubl2 have you got another idea ?
[12:38] <flixor> kee, maybe you could help him jsubl2 i am just a week on kubuntu and linux i have read a lot about it but i lack experience 
[12:38] <flixor> and knowledge :) but we will learn 
[12:39] <ubuntu> Back.
[12:39] <ubuntu> OK.
[12:39] <ubuntu> It booted fine.
[12:39] <flixor> ehm nalioth, that could be 
[12:39] <flixor> i have installed some non kubuntu packages just to try 
[12:39] <nalioth> flixor: this is why we highly recommend NOT using non ubuntu repos
[12:39] <flixor> so how can i fix this little animal 
[12:39] <kkathman> flixor: hes saying that your repos might not be all ubuntu
[12:39] <flixor> lol, well i think i never will do this again 
[12:39] <kkathman> its ok to have apps that arent ;)
[12:39] <kazu> flixor maybe fixing the dma with hdparm ?
[12:40] <ubuntu> crimsun
[12:40] <ubuntu> ?
[12:40] <crimsun> ubuntu: busy atm
[12:40] <kkathman> flixor: can you do this:   apt-cache search libqt3-mt
[12:40] <ubuntu> No, its me joseph.
[12:40] <ubuntu> o.O
[12:40] <nalioth> flixor: using non ubuntu repos ONCE can affect your system from that point 
[12:40] <flixor> ehm kazu wait a moment i wil be comming back on your problem in one sec 
[12:40] <nalioth> kkathman: he has them, but cant install due to depends
[12:40] <kazu> ok noprobs flixor :) thks
[12:41] <ubuntu> crimsun?
[12:41] <crimsun> ubuntu: dude, I just said I'm busy atm
[12:41] <crimsun> can you wait like 5 minutes?
[12:41] <ubuntu> I KNOW.
[12:41] <ubuntu> But weren't you SUPPOSED to be helping me?
[12:41] <ubuntu> o.O
[12:41] <flixor> yes i can do that kkathman 
[12:41] <ubuntu> If not then I'll be quiet.
[12:41] <crimsun> ubuntu: I have a real job that demands my attention. Please be patient.
[12:41] <kkathman> nalioth: I dont understand...should tell him what the depends are...just install those right?
[12:41] <ubuntu> Oh, thought you didn't know it was me. :(
[12:42] <flixor> kkathman, both packages are in the output
[12:42] <Mars^> How can i check my SuperKaramba versipon?
[12:42] <kkathman> flixor: look at what its asking for wrt dependencies, do the apt-cache search and install those first
[12:43] <nalioth> kkathman: he has used nonubuntu repos in the past, and his apt is now confused and wont let him install what he needs atm
[12:43] <nalioth> Mars^: open a terminal and type "superkaramba --version"
[12:43] <kkathman> ahhh hmm...
[12:43] <kkathman> nalioth thanks
[12:43] <kkathman> didnt catch that little tidbit
[12:43] <nalioth> ubotu: crimsun is SUPPOSED to help nobody
[12:43] <ubotu> okay, nalioth
[12:43] <flixor> that was my initial idea but then it comes down to this 
[12:43] <Joseph1> He was helping me.
[12:43] <Joseph1> o.O
[12:44] <kkathman> He probably needs to set his repos the right way and do an apt-get update
[12:44] <nalioth> Joseph1: crimsun is SUPPOSED to help nobody
[12:44] <Joseph1> He was helping me..
[12:44] <Mars^> Ha
[12:44] <flixor> kkathman, for libqt3-mt-dev in need to install libpng12-0-dev
[12:44] <Mars^> And how can i update superkaramba?
[12:44] <Joseph1> Hmm..
[12:45] <Joseph1> I'm probably wrong, but I would try apt-get update superkaramba.
[12:45] <Joseph1> o.O
[12:45] <nalioth> Joseph1: we are all volunteers here
[12:45] <Joseph1> I'm probably wrong thoguh. :(
[12:45] <kkathman> flixor...I think maybe you need to double check your repos, according to what nalioth said... then do a sudo apt-get update to get back in synch perhaps
[12:45] <kkathman> I didnt know nalioth was helping you
[12:45] <Joseph1> Nalioth, yes well, I have to keep coming back here because of problems with Kubuntu.
[12:45] <kkathman> and I missed that part
[12:45] <flixor> kee np 
[12:45] <nalioth> kkathman: flixor: i recommend removing any non ubuntu repos from your sources.list and running "sudo apt-get -f install"
[12:46] <kazu> mayge a dist-upgrade if you recently move to brezy
[12:46] <flixor> kee 
[12:46] <Joseph1> Nalioth, when I have a problem, I want to get it fixed right away. The last problem I had lasted for a LONG time, and no one fixed it until a LONG time.
[12:46] <nalioth> Joseph1: crimsun will help you when he's able. just have patience
[12:46] <Joseph1> I was VERY impatient then.
[12:46] <Joseph1> I am.
[12:46] <Joseph1> I thought he didn't know who I was.
[12:46] <Joseph1> Because my name was ubuntu.
[12:46] <flixor> oke kazu 
[12:46] <kazu> ok flixor
[12:47] <kazu> so an idea to solve my prob ? flixor 
[12:47] <flixor> what was our question because i was so busy solving my own little problem :)
[12:47] <flixor> oh yeah the hd 
[12:47] <kazu> lol ok
[12:47] <flixor> well maybe its a dma problem 
[12:47] <kazu> my problem was that my fat32 was slow
[12:47] <flixor> yes true 
[12:48] <kazu> ok but the dma is the ame for all a hdd or just set for a partition on it ?
[12:48] <flixor> i think it is set for a whole hd 
[12:48] <flixor> not just a partion 
[12:48] <kazu> ok so if my ext3 s are working well so it shoul'nt be that non ?
[12:49] <kkathman> excellent suggestion nalioth :)
[12:49] <flixor> you could do a test with hdparm and see what you get 
[12:49] <kazu> how do i use hdparm ?
[12:49] <kkathman> forgot you might have to fix the stuff thats there
[12:49] <flixor> well i dont know but we can figure it out let me look 
[12:49] <kazu> ok thks
[12:49] <crimsun> Joseph1: open a Konsole and type ''sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda''
[12:50] <crimsun> Joseph1: paste the output onto kubuntu.pastebin
[12:51] <NukeFusion> Hello everyone
[12:51] <kazu> flixor i am following a tutos about hdparm on andesi.org
[12:51] <crimsun> Joseph1: then give me the url when you've done that
[12:52] <Joseph1> Whats the link for that again?
[12:52] <kazu> i tell u in a few minutes if i am able to set it upby my self ok ?
[12:52] <kazu> ( don't want to anny you for nothing )
[12:52] <flixor> kee i have this one allso at gentoo http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_hdparm_to_improve_IDE_device_performance
[12:52] <crimsun> Joseph1: append .com
[12:52] <kazu> ok thks flixor
[12:52] <flixor> looks good about ide devices etc etc kazu 
[12:52] <kazu> ^^ thks 
[12:52] <flixor> but it could be simply something else 
[12:52] <kazu> i look that and come back after
[12:52] <flixor> but if not then you have learned about hdparm and so did i :)
[12:53] <andre> good morning everyone
[12:53] <kazu> ok i test this way and come to see you after :)
[12:53] <Joseph1> wait..
[12:53] <Joseph1> you say its append.com?
[12:53] <flixor> yes but that do that tommorow because i am going to bed in 20 min 
[12:53] <Joseph1> !pastebin
[12:53] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:53] <crimsun> Joseph1: kubuntu.pastebin.com
[12:53] <kazu> see u very soon flixor
[12:53] <crimsun> Joseph1: either one
[12:54] <NukeFusion> I have some problems with running a Broadcom Wlan Card under Kubuntu. I have installed: Ndiswrapper 1.2 , Wlan-tools and so on. I can find some wlan networks but i can't log in and sufing around the web. 
[12:54] <Joseph1> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/412786
[12:54] <sorush20> why does a font viewer take so long to load?
[12:54] <andre> hi
[12:54] <andre> hahaha
[12:55] <flixor> you too kazu i am here tommorow same time 
[12:55] <andre> ok how is eveyrone?
[12:55] <flixor> andre, do you have acces to those other wlan's
[12:56] <flixor> ehm nevermind i need to go to bed andre 
[12:56] <flixor> laters everybody 
[12:56] <flixor-sleeping> and thanks for the help nalioth and kkathman 
[12:56] <crimsun> Joseph1: ''sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt && sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash && sudo grub-install /dev/hda''
[12:57] <nalioth> flixor-sleeping: any time
[12:57] <shrinky_> how do i look at processes
[12:57] <Joseph1> Alright.
[12:57] <Joseph1> Done. :)
[12:57] <shrinky_> or programs that are running
[12:57] <crimsun> Joseph1: now ''sudo update-grub''
[12:57] <shrinky_> like the Task Manager in Windows
[12:57] <Joseph1> Can I copy and paste what it says?
[12:58] <Joseph1> Its not long, I promise.
[12:58] <crimsun> use kubuntu.pastebin
[12:58] <Joseph1> Why though?
[12:58] <Joseph1> Its not big. o.O
[12:58] <jsubl2> Don't flood the channel: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com 
[12:58] <Joseph1> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/412793
[12:58] <Joseph1> But its not flooding.
[12:58] <Joseph1> It probably wouldn't evenb e one line. o.O
[12:59] <crimsun> Joseph1: which command gives you that error?
[12:59] <Joseph1> sudo update-grub
[01:00] <crimsun> Joseph1: ok, not an issue
[01:00] <crimsun> Joseph1: ''sync''
[01:00] <Joseph1> Done.
[01:00] <crimsun> Joseph1: then press ctrl+d to log out
[01:01] <Joseph1> Shouldn't I..
[01:01] <Joseph1> Do that other command?
[01:01] <crimsun> which other command?
[01:01] <crimsun> update-grub is nonessential
[01:01] <Joseph1> sudo update-grub
[01:01] <Joseph1> Oh, alright.
[01:01] <Joseph1> OK.
[01:01] <Joseph1> BRB, then.
[01:03] <Mars_^> Is there possibility to set Poland on Liquid weather?
[01:04] <nalioth> Mars_^: you'll need a poland weather stations ID, i would think
[01:04] <treefrog> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted 
[01:04] <treefrog> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse 
[01:04] <treefrog> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe 
[01:04] <treefrog> jsubl2: Hi so have these repos been removed for good?? 
[01:04] <nalioth> treefrog: those are all valid
[01:04] <treefrog> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted 
[01:04] <treefrog> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse 
[01:05] <treefrog> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe 
[01:05] <treefrog> sorry
[01:05] <treefrog> oops
[01:05] <Mars_^> nalioth, where can i find it?
[01:05] <Joseph> Nope.
[01:05] <treefrog> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic has not got them in its list.!! 
[01:05] <Joseph> It ddin't work.
[01:06] <nalioth> Mars_^: i'd assume you'd google for weather stations in poland
[01:06] <Joseph> and CTRL + D
[01:06] <Joseph> didn't work.
[01:06] <Joseph> So I just logged out and restarted it.
[01:06] <crimsun> Joseph: ctrl+d only logs you out of the chroot.
[01:07] <Joseph> -.-
[01:07] <Joseph> So log back into Ubuntu Live?
[01:07] <crimsun> Joseph: you're still responsible for logging out of the host KDE session and rebooting
[01:07] <Joseph> ?
[01:07] <Joseph> It was Ubuntu
[01:07] <Joseph> Not this version either.
[01:07] <crimsun> doesn't matter
[01:07] <Joseph> Whats that mean? :S
[01:07] <crimsun> I told you log out of the chroot.
[01:08] <treefrog> nalioth: am I going to muck things up if I use the sugested repos from source o matic? seveas stuff not included in that.
[01:08] <Joseph> I think I did. o.O
[01:08] <crimsun> you still had to reboot the machine afterward.
[01:08] <Joseph> So I do it again?
[01:08] <Joseph> I did. o.O
[01:08] <crimsun> does GRUB work?
[01:08] <Joseph> No. :(
[01:08] <nalioth> treefrog: idk what source-0-matic is
[01:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell treefrog about sources
[01:08] <crimsun> Joseph: are you using anything like Symantec Ghost?
[01:08] <Joseph> Nope.
[01:09] <Joseph> Well.
[01:09] <Joseph> I am using.
[01:09] <Joseph> Novell.
[01:09] <treefrog> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:09] <Joseph> Novell Desktop management.
[01:09] <crimsun> Joseph: that may be incompatible. Any way you can remove it?
[01:10] <Joseph> Sure.
[01:10] <treefrog> humm.. all very intersting.
[01:10] <Joseph> But I had it installed.
[01:10] <Joseph> Before I installed Kubuntu.
[01:10] <Joseph> When it worked the first time I installed it.
[01:10] <Joseph> If that makes any sense.
[01:11] <nalioth> treefrog: that source-o-matic is confusing to me
[01:11] <crimsun> Joseph: so download a 5.10 live cd and repeat the steps we just did
[01:11] <Mars^> Ok i changed liquid weather location for poland but it still shows wellington :/
[01:11] <nalioth> treefrog: the list ubotu sent is good, just compare yours to it (country codes are ok in yours)
[01:12] <Joseph> :(
[01:12] <Joseph> I will later. ><
[01:12] <treefrog> it is skye I'm after. if that helps you understand what I'm looking at this all for. 
[01:12] <treefrog> skype. oops
[01:13] <nalioth> treefrog: skype iirc is commercial
[01:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell treefrog about skype
[01:13] <Mars^> Nice looks like there is onlu 0 outside :)
[01:14] <treefrog> is there an alternative to skype. ?? ubuntu alternative??
[01:15] <Mars^> why not normal skupe?
[01:15] <lexhider> where do I post kubuntu bugs, launchpad or bugzilla?
[01:15] <nalioth> treefrog: i'm not aware of any, perhaps ask in #ubuntu
[01:16] <Mars^> Ehh squares in spite of polish fonts in liquid weather any idea?
[01:16] <nalioth> Mars^: your system is not set up to handle the accented characters
[01:17] <treefrog> K thanks nalioth .. I'll try setting up Skype first.. it is what I'm used to at the moment and all that.. 
[01:18] <Mars^> nalioth, polish fonts works everywhere but not in log in screen at the begining and in liquid weather
[01:19] <nalioth> Mars^: seems a liquid weather liability then
[01:20] <Mars^> nalioth, what schould i do?
[01:21] <nalioth> Mars^: file a bug with the weather program writers or ubuntu if it's included with ubuntu
[01:24] <Mars^> Maybe i will change liquid weather langueage to eng
[01:24] <sorush20> what would happen if the channel got more than 3000 users.. guys is there a comprehensive font manger around at all.. 
[01:32] <Mars_^> How can i change language in liquid weather?
[01:34] <nalioth> Mars^: look in your preferences for it
[01:35] <Mars_^> Ok now i need nice notes theme
[01:39] <Mars_^> know something?
[01:46] <Mars> know any nice rss reader theme?
[01:47] <nalioth> rss reader theme?
[01:48] <Mars> for karamba
[01:49] <nalioth> Mars: i'm not much of a superkaramba/adesklets/gdesklets user
[01:50] <Delvien> i could never get adesklets to work
[02:04] <blarf> where can I find the ppds that normally come with cups?
[02:09] <blarf> anyone?
[02:09] <blarf> ugh
[02:20] <jsubl2> find /usr/share -name '*ppd'
[02:21] <jsubl2> blarf: that is for you the find command
[02:21] <blarf> jsubl2: ha, too bad you're wrong
[02:21] <blarf> the driver is not installed
[02:21] <jsubl2> i ran the command and it works.. you just made my ignore list
[02:22] <blarf> jsubl2: too bad you're not parsing my question properly
[02:22] <blarf> because if you were fucking competent to read, you'd notice I said
[02:22] <blarf> drivers that normally come with cups
[02:22] <nalioth> blarf: please be polite
[02:22] <blarf> the ESP drivers
[02:22] <nalioth> i hate rude people who curse
[02:23] <stbain> yes, they're even worse than rude people who don't curse
[02:23] <jsubl2> i hate rookies who correct old timers that know their stuff
[02:24] <jsubl2> when the old timer is right
[02:24] <nalioth> everyone is entitled to their beliefs
[02:24] <jsubl2> i was trying to teach him a command he could use
[02:24] <jsubl2> o well don't matter
[02:35] <Joseph> Hello
[02:35] <Joseph> is crimsun here?
[02:35] <Joseph> Yes he is.
[02:35] <Joseph> But is he AFK?
[02:37] <Hobbsee> idle for 12 mins, so crimsun may be here
[02:38] <Joseph> Yay.
[02:38] <Joseph> I just need him to give me some commands.
[02:38] <Joseph> Thats it. :)
[02:38] <Joseph> I forgot them. ><
[02:38] <Joseph> BRB.
[02:46] <Delvien> What is artsd?
[02:51] <jsubl2> sound server daemon for kde
[03:03] <Delvien> What Browser do you all use ?
[03:04] <apokryphos> Konqueror
[03:04] <apokryphos> Opera and Firefox on rare occassions
[03:05] <jsubl2> konqueror mostly occasionally firefox
[03:07] <nalioth> i use konqueror and galeon
[03:17] <sorush20> is squid a web server?
[03:18] <nalioth> sorush20: it is a proxy server
[03:18] <nalioth> sorush20: a caching proxy server
[03:18] <sophie_> nalioth: i finalyy got breezy working fine after hoary update, i could not install nvidia driver and had to install from nvidia site
[03:19] <nalioth> sophie_: so are you running fine now, then?
[03:20] <sophie_> yep but for some reason it does not feel has snappy
[03:22] <sophie_> nalioth: i mean kde 3.4.3
[03:22] <nalioth> sophie_: i believe 3.4.3 is beta
[03:23] <sophie_> nalioth: nope its officially realeased
[03:23] <nalioth> sophie_: is it? /me doesnt keep up
[03:24] <sophie_> keep up? uptime?
[03:24] <Knowerrors> can someone please send me a default kubuntu 5.10 kernel config file, getting ready to do my own kernel
[03:26] <nalioth> sophie_: i dont keep up with the latest things, i'm happy with older stable releases
[03:28] <sophie_> nalioth: i should have never updated to breezy 
[03:28] <nalioth> sophie_: oh?
[03:30] <icewt> i think you would have avoided many problems with a clean install
[03:31] <sophie_> icewt: but hoary seems much faster for some reason also bootime is slower now
[03:33] <sophie_> ok ill stop complening it does seem stable
[03:33] <icewt> oh. i can't really say much about that because i went from ubuntu -> kubuntu when going from hoary -> breezy . except that kde works much faster for me than gnome used to.
[03:34] <sophie_> even tab completion in console seems slower when not even starting x
[03:37] <jsubl2> do a clean install and report back if it fixes your problems
[03:43] <sophie_> jsubl2: ill try maybe this weekend after i back up
[03:43] <sophie_> jsubl2: can i resize partition with fdisk
[03:44] <sophie_> or parted 
[03:45] <BamaWOLF> heh, kubuntu doesn't like the built in audio in my mac mini, and my iMic makes a static like noise with it
[03:45] <nalioth> sophie_: what kind of partition?
[03:48] <sophie_> nalioth: ext3
[03:48] <nalioth> sophie_: q- or qt- parted from the livecd will probably work better
[03:49] <nalioth> sophie_: cant manipulate a mounted partition
[03:59] <sophie_> nalioth: tks ill try t repartition bCKUP AND  REINSTALL BREEZY
[04:10] <Sonny_Wertzik> hello
[04:10] <Sonny_Wertzik> anyone here use kxdocker?
[04:13] <strike4ce> !wlassistant
[04:13] <ubotu> strike4ce: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[04:14] <strike4ce> Anyone here have experience with Wlassistant?
[04:17] <jsubl2> you tried kwifiManager
[04:24] <Hobart> Can anyone point me in the right direction on what application I need to run to configure KDE / Kubuntu for a 1-button trackpad [ibook] ?
[04:25] <sophie_> Hobart: have a look in xorg documentation for button simulation
[04:25] <sophie_> oops emulation
[04:28] <strike4ce> Why doesnt kubuntu have a decent wireless manager?
[04:29] <sophie_> strike4ce: use can use kde wireless manager I was told it worked well
[04:30] <Hobart> strike4ce -> I had to add a package I believe, but I'm running KWiFiManager on the ibook
[04:30] <strike4ce> sophie_: where do you get kde wireless manager?
[04:31] <sophie_> strike4ce: use Kwifimanager
[04:31] <strike4ce> Hobart: what package?
[04:32] <Hobart> strike4ce -> not sure.  Let me look.
[04:32] <strike4ce> sophie_: it only works on my home network.  I travel and I need a connection Kwifi doesnt work
[04:32] <sophie_> strike4ce: sudo apt-get install kwifimanager
[04:32] <Hobart> there's a "kwifimanager"
[04:32] <strike4ce> sophie_: I already have Kwifimanager
[04:33] <sophie_> strike4ce: its not working for u
[04:33] <Hobart> kwifimanager -> Settings -> Configuration manager gives me up to 4 different profiles
[04:33] <Hobart> I just used it for the first time to get running in the coffeshop I'm at actually ^^
[04:34] <strike4ce> Hobart: It wouldnt work lastnight at my hotel
[04:34] <Hobart> you went into configuration editor?
[04:34] <Hobart> err, manager
[04:34] <strike4ce> Hobart: It would work on windows though
[04:34] <Hobart> I hit "autodetect" then "apply" and it picked up the coffeeshop wifi
[04:35] <strike4ce> Kwifi
[04:35] <Hobart> autodetect for it to know that eth1 was the wifi mgr
[04:35] <Hobart> strike4ce -> not the main kwifi , you have to choose from the menu first
[04:35] <strike4ce> Windows connected right away but Kwifi wouldnt work
[04:35] <Hobart> Yes, we've established that.  Moving forward towards getting your current configuration working...
[04:36] <strike4ce> Hobart: what do you mean main Kwifi there is only one in the menu
[04:36] <Hobart> You said that it works at home, so the car's definitely working...
[04:36] <Hobart> Open up KwifiManager by double clicking it
[04:36] <strike4ce> car's?
[04:36] <Hobart> under the Settings menu is a Configuration Editor that asks you to enter your pw 
[04:36] <Hobart> have you gone there?
[04:36] <Hobart> I meant "card's" up there
[04:37] <strike4ce> yes, im there
[04:37] <Sonny_Wertzik> hello..is anyone in here?
[04:37] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: you get lost?
[04:37] <Hobart> strike4ce -> hit autodetect so it knows what network interface to work with
[04:37] <Hobart> then hit apply
[04:38] <strike4ce> ok
[04:38] <Hobart> I also hit Activate and Apply
[04:38] <Sonny_Wertzik> ahhh...people....hello.
[04:38] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: no why limit my self to #ubuntu when i can help people in here
[04:38] <strike4ce> yea did that
[04:38] <Hobart> now when you hit OK and are back in KWiFiManager - does it see the new network?
[04:38] <Sonny_Wertzik> anyone in here use kxdocker?
[04:38] <strike4ce> Im at home and I only have one network
[04:39] <kdude> Ubuntu 5.10 rocks!!
[04:39] <Hobart> ah, well, I guess you'll have to try it on the road or a coffeshop
[04:39] <kdude> Anybody here has Audigy 3 Value?
[04:40] <strike4ce> Hobart: Ok so what you're saying is to go into config edit when I am using a new connection and hit config 2,3,4 etc.  And it will recognize it that way?
[04:40] <Hobart> strike4ce -> one thing I've seen that's an issue , if your wifi setup has a "key", the app isn't smart enough to disable the key when scanning for open networks
[04:40] <Hobart> strike4ce -> I don't know if it will automagically recognize it or if you will have to choose it from the menu
[04:40] <Sonny_Wertzik> kdude, i have a 2 vale is that close enough?
[04:40] <strike4ce> Hobart: right now minw doesnt for that reason
[04:40] <Hobart> but that should at least stop you from having to enter the password for each different location
[04:41] <strike4ce> Hobart: its all open
[04:41] <kdude> Sonny_Wertzik: yes..close enough..
[04:42] <strike4ce> Hobart: no passwords
[04:42] <Sonny_Wertzik> what do you need to know?
[04:42] <Hobart> I've generally had difficulty getting started on both the iBook and the x86 laptop I have Linux (CentOS) on with wifi ...
[04:42] <Hobart> but on both of them I've eventually gotten it working.
[04:42] <Hobart> The x86 required ndiswrapper due to a proprietary Broadcom card :|
[04:42] <kdude> Sonny_Wertzik: Yu know in Windows there's lots of Env. sound effects, Room, Bathroom, Hall, etc.. Is there such a tool for Linux?
[04:43] <kdude> oops.. I said 3? I mean 2 heheh! it was a typo... didn't even noticed it.
[04:43] <Sonny_Wertzik> kdude, ya i know what you mean...but i have never looked for that for linux...i think they are called soundfont in windows right?
[04:44] <kdude> Sonny_Wertzik: Nahhh.. soundfont is for musical instruments MIDI stuff.. I am talking about Suround Sound effects.
[04:44] <strike4ce> Anyone know about resolution issues with 15.4 inch wxga screens
[04:45] <strike4ce> on laptops and how to fix it
[04:45] <Sonny_Wertzik> kdude, ya...i still know what you mean hehe.....have you tried the creative web site...i dont think i saw that on their site though
[04:45] <strike4ce> !laptops
[04:45] <ubotu> strike4ce: What?
[04:46] <kdude> Sonny_Wertzik: They don't support Linux directly..only opensource community has developed stuff for it.
[04:46] <strike4ce> !laptop
[04:46] <ubotu> laptop is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[04:47] <Sonny_Wertzik> kdude, ya u r right ...opensource....um i have never seen any sound effects for audigy...but there may be something similar...have you done a search in package manage for keywords?
[04:48] <kdude> Sonny_Wertzik: Yeah...no luck though.
[04:49] <Hobart> strike4ce -> Hmmm, check this out:
[04:49] <Hobart> jon@chiriri:/var$ iwlist eth1 scanning
[04:49] <Hobart> eth1      Failed to read scan data : Operation not supported
[04:49] <Hobart> Seems the wifi chipset drivers people have been able to reverse haven't yet included the scanning bit
[04:49] <Hobart> s
[04:49] <Sonny_Wertzik> kdude, ya ...sorry ....but maybe try the alsa site tho
[04:49] <Hobart> (for some)
[04:50] <kdude> Sonny_Wertzik: That sounds good.. will do..
[04:50] <Sonny_Wertzik> kdude, i think its called alsa project when you google it
[04:52] <kdude> Sonny_Wertzik: cool. thanks Son'
[04:53] <Sonny_Wertzik> kdude,  yw
[04:53] <Sonny_Wertzik> anyone in here use kxdocker?
[04:57] <shrinkyjL[os] ``> what program shows my system stats?1
[05:05] <kdude> anybody here knows when linux plans to fully support NTFS?
[05:06] <lexhider> kdude: I don't think it's likely to be anytime soon.
[05:07] <kdude> argg...that sucks..
[05:08] <kdude> anybody here can recommend  to me a good open-source enterprise groupware that also works on Windows? (not web-based).
[05:23] <kdude> hey guys how do you register a nick.
[05:23] <kdude> !register
[05:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, register is type /msg nickserv help register
[05:23] <manveru> ^^
[05:23] <nyarltep> sup fellas
[05:24] <manveru> hey nyarltep
[05:24] <nyarltep> kubuntu was a sanp to set up
[05:24] <nyarltep> even with this usb wifi device
[05:24] <strike4ce> !dell
[05:24] <ubotu> strike4ce: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:24] <Fluffels> Anybody seen breezy not recovering from hibernate >?? I'm running on an IBM T41 ?
[05:24] <strike4ce> !inspiron
[05:24] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, strike4ce
[05:24] <strike4ce> !8600
[05:24] <ubotu> strike4ce: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:25] <strike4ce> !resolution
[05:25] <ubotu> I guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:25] <manveru> Fluffels: T41 - isn't that a thinkpad?
[05:25] <Fluffels> Yes
[05:25] <Fluffels> it is
[05:26] <bjv> how do i call the built-in kernel hibernate function with kubuntu?
[05:26] <manveru> Fluffels: they perform well with acpi...
[05:26] <bjv> i keep reading stuff in my google searches on how people have hibernate 'just work' with their breezy laptops
[05:26] <manveru> yeap
[05:26] <manveru> you've got a nice small KLaptop icon in your kicker
[05:26] <crimsun> bjv: did you configure it in KDE's control center?
[05:27] <Fluffels> I know, I use to run hoary , all worked well now after the upgrade to breezy the machine hangs during resume
[05:27] <Fluffels> Yes..
[05:27] <manveru> well, upgrading is a different case
[05:27] <Fluffels> It hibernates OK, resuming is the problem - have to hard reset
[05:27] <Fluffels> (Well it was a fresh install)
[05:27] <Fluffels> :-)
[05:27] <manveru> ^^
[05:27] <manveru> k then
[05:27] <Fluffels> ""upgrade "
[05:28] <bjv> where in the kcontrol menus is it?
[05:28] <LeeJunFan> Fluffels: did you upgrade to the new 2.6.12 kern?
[05:28] <Fluffels> Yes
[05:28] <manveru> bjv: in energy-control or however it's called in english
[05:28] <Fluffels> Out of the box (cd 5.10) install 
[05:29] <LeeJunFan> Fluffels: might be the acpi implementation in the kernel changed, you may need to setup grub to give bootparams. Do you have kernel source installed?
[05:29] <manveru> bjv: and there are seperate menus for sony and ibm-thinkpads
[05:29] <Fluffels> Nope...
[05:29] <bjv> manveru: yeah, i have 'power control' -> 'battery status'
[05:29] <Fluffels> That might be it... 
[05:30] <LeeJunFan> Fluffels: well, if you install kernel source in the src directory check out Documentation dir, look for kernel-paramaters.txt or something like that - there you will see a lot of acpi options, I think s3_bios or something like that is what you want.
[05:30] <manveru> bjv: there is stuff for about everyting - just go through the menus
[05:30] <Fluffels> I have Grub x twixe
[05:30] <Fluffels> could that be part of the prob ?
[05:30] <Fluffels> I still have Hoary... installed Grub on /dev/hda7 did not want to boot there...
[05:31] <bjv> manveru: yeah, it seems to be all active, but when i do suspend it doesnt turn off all the way. :\
[05:31] <Fluffels> So chainloader +1 to new grub
[05:31] <endo602> how can i get multiple smb shares to mnt in fstab?
[05:31] <manveru> bjv: that heavily depends on the notbook - everyone has a different acpi-implementation
[05:32] <manveru> bjv: suspend is known to be unstable - that's why it's off per default
[05:34] <LeeJunFan> Fluffels: check your /boot/grub/menu.lst and see if you have a resume= line for your kernel also.
[05:34] <manveru> on my laptop suspend to ram doesn't work as well... just crashes...
[05:35] <endo602> ?
[05:35] <manveru> !
[05:35] <ubotu> manveru: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:35] <manveru> ^^
[05:36] <endo602> how can i mount multiple samba shares in fstab?
[05:36] <endo602> !samba 
[05:36] <ubotu> samba is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[05:40] <bjv> manveru: ah, well i use a desktop and use apm=on acpi=off with my kernel
[05:41] <bjv> manveru: im looking into just compiling my first new kernel with the software suspend patches/acpi/etc.
[05:41] <kdude> !linux
[05:41] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[05:42] <kdude> !ubuntu
[05:42] <ubotu> well, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[05:42] <kdude> !hello
[05:42] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, kdude
[05:42] <LeeJunFan> To get more info on getting software suspend to work check here: http://www.suspend2.net/HOWTO-5.html, it's not ubuntu specific, but the basics are still the same, And really it depends a lot on your hardware whether susp to disk or ram will work at all.
[05:42] <kdude> !hi
[05:42] <ubotu> hi!
[05:42] <kdude> !hola
[05:42] <ubotu> kdude: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[05:42] <kdude> !piss off
[05:42] <ubotu> I don't know, kdude
[05:43] <nalioth> !botabuse
[05:43] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[05:45] <kdude> hey I typed in !liinux in #debian-bots and it says  rumour has it that linux is closed.. what kinda rumour is that?
[05:45] <nalioth> kdude: dont listen to strange bots
[05:46] <kdude> nalioth: heheh! i know ..my heart sanked for a while. Linux can never die..(I hope).
[05:47] <LeeJunFan> no, we are just closed on mondays :)
[05:47] <wahib> hello all
[05:47] <Delvien> Hey guys whats the command to see what your CPU temp is at?
[05:47] <Delvien> hey wahib
[05:47] <wahib> anybody with that UniChrome Pro IGP? :D so painful 
[05:48] <wahib> I don't know why there are no Kubuntu package for it, supposed to be open drivers, perhaps?
[05:49] <endo602> can someone please help me with mount samba shares (multiple)?
[05:49] <endo602> !nfs
[05:49] <ubotu> well, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:51] <Fluffels> Delvien try "cat /proc/ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature
[05:51] <Fluffels> oops should only be  cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature
[05:51] <kdude> !smbmount
[05:51] <ubotu> kdude: What?
[05:51] <Fluffels> cat /proc/cpuinfo gives noce stats as weel
[05:51] <kdude> !smb
[05:51] <ubotu> kdude: No idea
[05:51] <kdude> !mount
[05:51] <ubotu> hmm... mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[05:52] <kdude> !sambamount
[05:52] <ubotu> No idea, kdude
[05:52] <Fluffels> Delvien, does it work ?
[05:53] <Delvien> Fluffels i need one specifically for CPU temp
[05:53] <Fluffels> "cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature" gives me my CPU temp...
[05:53] <Fluffels> or not /
[05:53] <Fluffels> ?
[05:54] <Delvien> ni file or dir..
[05:54] <Delvien> lol
[05:54] <nalioth> Delvien: you'll need "lm_sensors" installed
[05:54] <Delvien> nalioth o 
[05:55] <Delvien> still says no such file or dir
[05:56] <nalioth> Delvien: in a console, "apt-cache search sensor"
[05:57] <Delvien> what am i looking for?
[05:58] <manveru> lm-sensors
[05:58] <Delvien> i have it, just installed, but doing the cat for the temp still says no such file or dir
[05:59] <Delvien> would i have to restart x?
[05:59] <nalioth> Fluffels: what sensor pkg do you have installed?
[05:59] <manveru> this is created by the acpi-module of the kernel, that's why it is in proc
[05:59] <nalioth> Delvien: no you dont
[05:59] <Fluffels> let me check
[05:59] <Delvien> whats the command to detect sensors for lm-sensors
[06:00] <nalioth> Delvien: if you install 'conky' it uses lm-sensors
[06:00] <Fluffels> I do not have lm_sensors
[06:00] <Fluffels> hmmm
[06:01] <Delvien> lol what do you have 
[06:01] <Fluffels> justthe libsensors3 :  library to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors
[06:01] <Fluffels> Lm-sensors is a hardware health monitoring package for Linux. It allows you to access information from temperature, voltage, and fan speed sensors. It works with most newer systems.
[06:01] <Fluffels> This package contains a shared library for querying lm-sensors.
[06:01] <Fluffels> Homepage: http://www.lm-sensors.nu
[06:02] <Fluffels> I have klaptop... and acpi 
[06:02] <Fluffels> maybe acpi uses liblmsensors ?
[06:03] <Fluffels> !acpi
[06:03] <ubotu> Not a clue, Fluffels
[06:03] <Fluffels> shame ...
[06:04] <nalioth> !info acpi
[06:04] <ubotu> acpi: (displays information on ACPI devices), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.09-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 72 kB
[06:05] <Delvien> oy, i just want to see my CPU temp with my karamba , but need cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature to work first
[06:05] <lascar> i get this error message when i want to update my sources.list: E: Type '' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:06] <nalioth> lascar: edit your sources.list
[06:06] <lascar> i can't find this space in my source
[06:06] <lascar> tried
[06:06] <nalioth> lascar: what is on line 1?
[06:06] <Knowerrors> anybody here use xawtv
[06:06] <lascar> i'm using openoffice btw since kate crashed
[06:07] <lascar> "## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the"
[06:07] <nalioth> lascar: make very sure it saves as a text file
[06:07] <nalioth> lascar: can you paste your sources.list ?
[06:07] <nalioth> !paste
[06:07] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:08] <lascar> nalioth: give me a sec
[06:08] <endo602> how can i make it that konq uses double click instead of single?
[06:08] <lascar> done
[06:09] <lascar> endo602: go to control center
[06:09] <lascar> then peripherals
[06:09] <nalioth> lascar: got a URL for us?
[06:09] <lascar> then mouse
[06:10] <endo602> ok
[06:10] <lascar> nalioth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3919
[06:10] <endo602> lascar got it thanks
[06:10] <lascar> your welcome
[06:10] <endo602> any clue on how i can disable my caps lock key?
[06:11] <lascar> ...press it?
[06:11] <nalioth> lascar: delete the whole top line
[06:11] <lascar> all of it nalioth?
[06:11] <endo602> ?
[06:11] <endo602> i want to make sure that if i press it 
[06:11] <endo602> it wont do anything
[06:11] <endo602> or it will act like a shift key
[06:12] <nalioth> lascar: make the top line the first line beginning with "deb http"
[06:12] <lascar> done
[06:12] <lascar> save and update?
[06:13] <lascar> curses, i'm still getting the same error
[06:13] <endo602> damn caps stil working
[06:13] <endo602> this is annoying
[06:14] <lascar> endo602: describe the problem
[06:14] <endo602> i have a laptop
[06:14] <endo602> and the keyboard is small
[06:14] <endo602> everytime i type
[06:14] <lascar> wouldn't be a vaio or a thinkpad would it?
[06:14] <endo602> inope
[06:14] <lascar> ok, go on
[06:15] <Delvien> what kind of laptop
[06:15] <lascar> nalioth, the error message is just about the same, save ' ' has been replaced with 'deb'
[06:15] <Delvien> nalioth can ACPI read the temp ? i know gnome reads it with an applet , so i know something on my machine reads it
[06:16] <nalioth> Delvien: i'm not sure how one reads temps
[06:17] <nalioth> lascar: change the name of yours to sources.list.bak and use the one from here, please
[06:17] <nalioth> !sources
[06:17] <nalioth> !+sources
[06:17] <ubotu> How to add repositories:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:20] <lascar> should i copy Kaarsemaker's sources?
[06:21] <Delvien> cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature did it
[06:21] <nalioth> lascar: the sources in the link reflecting your version will do
[06:21] <nalioth> lascar: there is a download link
[06:22] <LeeJunFan> I thought proc/acpi was deprecated to have everything in /sys but damned if I can find thermal info there.
[06:22] <lascar> and by version you mean hoary/breezy?
[06:23] <nalioth> lascar: yes
[06:29] <Delvien> any idea on how to make a Karamba to update a specific line ever couple seconds
[06:31] <lascar> nothing's working...
[06:31] <nalioth> Delvien: look in the configuration file
[06:32] <nalioth> lascar: i can divine many meanings from "nothings working"
[06:32] <lascar> ;), I'm still at the drawing board
[06:32] <Delvien> nalioth im editing the karamba with kate
[06:33] <Delvien> nalioth i want to know the code, because there are only 2 lines that need it
[06:33] <nalioth> Delvien: visit the superkarambe site and see the faq
[06:34] <Delvien> nalioth lol there is only 3 FAWs
[06:34] <kkathman> Howdy all :)
[06:34] <Delvien> nalioth FAQs
[06:35] <nalioth> kkathman: good you're here. you can help lascar . lascar is replacing his sources.list with the one from !sources
[06:36] <lascar> !sources
[06:38] <Fluffels> Delvien Glad to see its working !
[06:38] <Fluffels> Delvien goos to see its working
[06:39] <Fluffels> Delvien Cool that it works!
[06:39] <Fluffels> Delvien, cool!
[06:39] <Fluffels> Glad to see its working !
[06:40] <nalioth> Fluffels: what is that you are doing?
[06:40] <Fluffels> With what... ?
[06:40] <Delvien> yeah really :)
[06:40] <nalioth> colors dude
[06:40] <Fluffels> I was trying to help D getting temp...
[06:40] <lascar> identify
[06:40] <Fluffels> Colors ?
[06:41] <Delvien> Fluffels know the code to repeat a line at a regular interval of a Superkaramba
[06:42] <Fluffels> Cut and Paste error ...
[06:43] <Delvien> me?
[06:43] <lascar> kkathman: any ideas?
[06:44] <Fluffels> I was pasting a name and it switched to rich text mode... Kopete ...
[06:46] <kkathman> sorry I was away shortly
[06:46] <kkathman> one sec.
[06:46] <kkathman> let me catch up lascar :)
[06:47] <lascar> no prob
[06:47] <kkathman> ok..lascar you need to replace sources.list is that right?
[06:47] <lascar> yeah
[06:47] <kkathman> at least thats what I see :)
[06:47] <lascar> and it's always worked before
[06:48] <kkathman> lascar look at this first ok:
[06:48] <kkathman> !repos
[06:48] <kkathman> !tell lascar about repos
[06:48] <lascar> ...?
[06:48] <kkathman> lascar you need to look at the PM from ubotu :)
[06:49] <lascar> haven't gotten one yet
[06:49] <kkathman> !repos
[06:49] <kkathman> hmm ok
[06:49] <billytwowilly> how do I get apt to ignore broken packages?
[06:50] <kkathman> well lascar:    http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) 
[06:50] <kkathman> you need to look at that, then edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:51] <kkathman> lascar: you can use kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list  for instance to make your copy look like the breezy repos.
[06:52] <LeeJunFan> billytwowilly: echo packagename hold | dpkg --set-selections
[06:53] <billytwowilly> LeeJunFan: you want me to run that?
[06:53] <LeeJunFan> billytwowilly: that's how to set a package on hold so it won't be updated
[06:53] <kkathman> LeeJunFan: Good to see you again around here :)
[06:53] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: yeah, it's been a while eh?
[06:53] <Delvien> my cpu runs hot under linux ... the fan never kicks on high
[06:54] <lascar> how can i trust any of the repositories in pastebin?
[06:54] <strike4ce> Anyone using a 15.4 laptop?
[06:54] <kkathman> but always good to see good friends :)
[06:54] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: how hot?
[06:54] <billytwowilly> LeeJunFan: it's a broken package.
[06:54] <Delvien> LEEJUNFAN 46 celcius
[06:54] <billytwowilly> There is nothing that will fix it.
[06:54] <kkathman> yikes!
[06:54] <lascar> wow
[06:54] <billytwowilly> I just need apt to stop being a dick and continue about its business around the pakcage
[06:54] <billytwowilly> and that didn't do that.. thanks for the tip though.
[06:54] <LeeJunFan> Mine's almost at a constant 40C.
[06:55] <lascar> kkathman: how can i trust any of the repositories on pastebin?
[06:55] <Delvien> Leejunfan mine runs 29 celcius under windows,
[06:55] <Delvien> Leejunfan you know the command for the current CPU speed?
[06:55] <kkathman> lascar, I'll paste mine for you, but they'll be exactly like most of the Breezy examples I imagine :)
[06:55] <LeeJunFan> billytwowilly: you substituted the packagename? if you run dpkg --get-selections you'll see how everything is set now.
[06:56] <lascar> ok
[06:56] <kkathman> lascar: basically everything should have "breezy" in it
[06:56] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: what performance profile are you running?
[06:56] <kkathman> but if you want I'll paste mine for you :)
[06:56] <lascar> go ahead and paste yours
[06:57] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq
[06:57] <billytwowilly> LeeJunFan: it's set to hold. It's just if I do an apt-get install kpilot or anything else I get the message to fix the broken package.
[06:57] <billytwowilly> I don't want that. I know apt thinks it's broken, but it's not it's just a marillat package.
[06:57] <lascar> kkathman i'm assuming you're running breezy.  Is that right?
[06:57] <billytwowilly> the package works, I just want apt to STFU about it and let me install things;)
[06:58] <kkathman> lascar, yes
[06:58] <LeeJunFan> billytwowilly: what about telling apt to --force even though it bitches?
[06:58] <billytwowilly> apt-get install --force kpilot
[06:58] <billytwowilly> LeeJunFan: ^
[06:58] <billytwowilly> gAH
[06:58] <Delvien> Leejunfan hey i got a Q , in Klaptop when you tell it to CPU throttle 00% what exactly does that mean
[06:59] <billytwowilly> E: Command line option --force is not understood
[06:59] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: that means to run full speed, don't throttle back any %.
[06:59] <Delvien> what about 50%
[07:00] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: throttle probably isn't what you really want anyway - the big thing is to have your profile set to something like ondemand.
[07:00] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: that means to slow down by 50%.
[07:01] <kkathman> lascar:  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/412986
[07:01] <Delvien> leejunfan reason why i ask is because my CPU is running at 85+ % at all times
[07:01] <lascar> now, what to do if i'm running hoary?
[07:01] <lascar> just rename?
[07:01] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: did you cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq
[07:01] <kkathman> lascar: are you running hoary?
[07:01] <lascar> indeed
[07:02] <lascar> but an upgrade wouldn't hurt
[07:02] <kkathman> lascar...ok, then change every time your see "breezy" to "hoary"
[07:02] <lascar> in fact, i would've been running breezy if i hadn't run into prior complications
[07:02] <lascar> ok
[07:02] <Delvien> Leejunfan it says its running at 1600000 which is right, but thats full speed, 
[07:02] <lascar> but kkathman, what if i want to upgrade?
[07:03] <kkathman> lascar: Well you upgrade if you have a really stable hoary I suppose.
[07:03] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: in kcontrol set your profiles to ondemand.
[07:03] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: or userspace - in either case it should only ramp your CPU up when it needs to.
[07:03] <kkathman> lascar: then go here and it will tell you exactly what to do: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[07:03] <lascar> kkathman: ?
[07:03] <Delvien> leejunfan i find the Klaptop to be very buggy, ir scales, but it doesnt take much to make it go full speed
[07:04] <Delvien> it scales**
[07:04] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: I don't let klaptop do much of that, if you set your profile to be one of those I listed then it's up to the kernel to do the speed control.
[07:05] <Delvien> it just kicked my fan on high..
[07:05] <Delvien> well bios did
[07:05] <Delvien> my GPU runs at full speed.. any way i can lower it
[07:06] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor    --- and tell me what it is.
[07:06] <Delvien> ondemand
[07:06] <LeeJunFan> did you just change all that in kcontrol then?
[07:06] <kkathman> LeeJunFan: How can I set up a monitor for say, the temperature of my CPU?  I'd like to monitor that occasionally.
[07:06] <Delvien> it was on ondemand before
[07:06] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: I use gkrellm.
[07:07] <kkathman> ahh ok dont I have to configure it tho
[07:07] <Delvien> kkathman depends on what CPU /make you have
[07:07] <lascar> kkathman: thanx a million for your help
[07:07] <lascar> you too nalioth
[07:07] <kkathman> np Lascar
[07:07] <kkathman> LeeJunFan: Sempron 2500
[07:07] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
[07:07] <Delvien> kkathman i use /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature
[07:07] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: it should just work with that.
[07:08] <Delvien> 1600000 1333000 1067000 800000
[07:08] <LeeJunFan> and that's what gkrellm uses too.
[07:08] <kkathman> I'll look for that
[07:08] <LeeJunFan> and cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq still shows 1600000?
[07:08] <Delvien> LEEJUNFAN but different makes put it in THM0 and etc
[07:08] <strike4ce> Anyone here use the 855resolution app?
[07:09] <Delvien> yes but my CPU usage is 90% for some reason
[07:09] <Delvien> so it would be 1600 anyway
[07:09] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: true, that's actually what my Athlon64 uses.
[07:09] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: that's because you turned on the throttling, so it basically sees 50% used for doing nothing.
[07:10] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: set your throttle to 0, I never use that. important thing is to have your profile be ondemand.
[07:10] <soundmaster80> just wondering if anyone in here uses kde 3.5 beta 2, and if so what's your opinion so far
[07:10] <kkathman> whew!! My processor runs hot too :(
[07:10] <LeeJunFan> soundmaster80: my opinion was to re-install stable.
[07:10] <kkathman> that cant be good!
[07:10] <kkathman> 141.8F
[07:10] <soundmaster80> ah, that bad ??
[07:11] <Delvien> now its staying at 100% and 98%
[07:11] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: wow, that is warm. Mine is 104F, 40C.
[07:11] <strike4ce> Im just wondering if it willl affect my win xp settings since it patches only the RAM version of the video bios
[07:11] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: run top from a cmdline and see if you have a process running away.
[07:12] <kkathman> I
[07:12] <kkathman> I'm putting an external fan on it now
[07:12] <Delvien> Leejunfan how do i do that? never did runaway process catcher
[07:13] <Delvien> it has a sad face !
[07:13] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: just open a shell, and type 'top' [enter] . Whatever is at the top is using the most CPU.
[07:13] <Delvien> uh os
[07:13] <Delvien> kded?
[07:14] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: under %cpu does it say a high percentage?
[07:14] <Delvien> kicker
[07:15] <Delvien> kicker takes 8%
[07:15] <Delvien> Xorg goes up to 22 % for about 1 second
[07:15] <LeeJunFan> That's nothing, we'd be looking for something taking over 60% at least.
[07:15] <Delvien> nothing is taking that much
[07:15] <Delvien> most running is like 8 % one
[07:17] <Delvien> what could be running thats taking 100%
[07:17] <LeeJunFan> you sure you set the throttling in the right spot to 0%? they should all be, but especially under default power profiles.
[07:17] <Delvien> well 00%..
[07:17] <Delvien> A program called 'kwebdesktop' is slowing down the others on your machine. It may have a bug that is causing this, or it may just be busy.
[07:17] <Delvien>  just got a message
[07:17] <Delvien> what the hell is kdwebdesktop
[07:18] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: a program that updates your background from the internet.
[07:19] <Delvien> do i have a virus or something? this is fishy
[07:19] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: it probably just jumped for a second. I think the real problem is throttling, but I don't have throttling on this current laptop I'm working on, so I can't remember where the throttle info is - shoudl be in same dir as other stuff. /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/
[07:19] <LeeJunFan> it's safe to cat anything in that dir to see what it contains.
[07:20] <kkathman> Yay, external fan is doing a good job :)  Dropped 9 degrees in just a few mins.
[07:20] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: what about cleaning out your internal fans?
[07:20] <kkathman> LeeJunFan: probably should do that, Its about time...I do that once a month...
[07:20] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: I have 4 dogs here, so I have to clean mine bi-weekly I think. hehe
[07:21] <kkathman> LeeJunFan: My computer is on the floor, carpet, under my desk, so not the best circulation
[07:21] <Delvien> whats scary is my CPU is now readiny 100%all the time...
[07:21] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: those dogs are just lucky that digging holes is harder work than blowing out my fans. hehe
[07:21] <kkathman> Only have one fan too
[07:22] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: throttling will do that, because while your clock rate is at 1600000 throttling is only letting your programs use a small percentage of that. It really screws with crap. Is there a switch to turn throttle off alltogether?
[07:23] <Delvien> in klaptop  , let me see
[07:23] <strike4ce> !855resolution
[07:23] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, strike4ce
[07:23] <Delvien> shut it all off in KLAPTOP bt still 100%
[07:24] <Delvien> gnome ran throttling so much better, klaptop is crap
[07:25] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ and look for files to do with throttling, I think there's just 1 and if you cat it it will show you different levels and an asterik next to the one yours is set at now.
[07:25] <LeeJunFan> I've never had a problem with klaptop.
[07:25] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: neither of them actually do the throttling, they just configure the kernel on how to do it.
[07:27] <kkathman> Hmmm I may need to think about another fan. All I really have in this little box was the fan on the power supply
[07:27] <Delvien> dm@dmlinux:~$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold  == 80
[07:28] <kkathman> I opened up the side, running the fan now, just to see how cool I could get it
[07:28] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: nope, that's just telling you that when you are at a low cpu clockrate and your use gets over 80% it will bump up to next higher clockrate.
[07:28] <Delvien> aye
[07:29] <Delvien> i dont find anything interesting in there , notin useful anyway
[07:30] <kkathman> also wonder why knotify runs
[07:30] <LeeJunFan> cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling
[07:31] <Delvien> Leejunfan i just did that , what do you want to know
[07:31] <LeeJunFan> what one has the mark by it?
[07:31] <Delvien> T0 00%
[07:32] <LeeJunFan> what about cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/power
[07:32] <Delvien> C2
[07:33] <Delvien>  *C2:                  type[C2]  promotion[C3]  demotion[C1]  latency[001]  usage[ 03336650] 
[07:33] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: I think a reboot might be in order. I have no idea why you are lusing 100% cpu at this point.
[07:33] <Delvien> lol okie
[07:33] <Delvien> it does this sometimes, but only in KDE
[07:34] <Delvien> ill brb
[07:39] <kkathman> LeeJunFan: I think I've hit a plateau at 118.4 .. doesnt seem to be moving much
[07:39] <kkathman> guess this processor just runs a little warm
[07:39] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: what processor you have again?
[07:39] <kkathman> AMD Sempron 2500+
[07:40] <LeeJunFan> my amd athlon 3400 is only running at 104.
[07:40] <soundmaster80> i'm curious, how do i add something to the media menu
[07:40] <kkathman> I guess I need a better fan
[07:41] <soundmaster80> i have a mounted drive i want to show up in storage media
[07:41] <kkathman> funny its going back up now...with an ext fan right on it :(
[07:41] <LeeJunFan> soundmaster80: it needs to be mounted to a dir inside /media dir.
[07:41] <soundmaster80> did that...not there
[07:41] <soundmaster80> "/media/server0"
[07:42] <strike4ce> Why cant I get 1280x800 resolution?
[07:43] <LeeJunFan> soundmaster80: I dunno, I think it only shows external drives and such, removeable media.
[07:43] <strike4ce> I only have 1280x768 on a 15.4inch monitor.  It should be set at 1280x800
[07:43] <kkathman> strike4ce: does your monitor support it?
[07:44] <kkathman> that doesnt sound like a 1.3333 :  1 ratio
[07:44] <strike4ce> kkathman: Yes it should be 1280x800 and it even shows it that way in the xorg file but its not 1280x800
[07:45] <strike4ce> kkathman: my laptop is wxga 15.4 inch
[07:45] <kkathman> strike4ce: mine is 1280 x 1024
[07:45] <kkathman> ahh ok
[07:46] <strike4ce> kkathman: what size 15.4?
[07:46] <kkathman> I have no idea
[07:46] <Delvien> hey leejunfan figured out what it was
[07:46] <strike4ce> How do I set my resolution to 1280x800?
[07:47] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: don't hold me in suspense. I'm tired :)
[07:47] <kkathman> strike4ce: if you can, it would be through the Configure Desktop
[07:47] <strike4ce> It shows 1280x800 in the script but in the display settings it only goes as high as 1280x768
[07:47] <Delvien> Leejunfan i was modding  a Superkaramba for system monitors, and i had one of the intervals set to 1, which was every second check. so it was taking all my processing power
[07:47] <strike4ce> kkathman: where is that?
[07:47] <kkathman> But when you install, I think its part of your xorg.
[07:47] <Delvien> now im down to 30%
[07:48] <LeeJunFan> Delvien: ah, yep.
[07:48] <Delvien> damn you code !
[07:48] <kkathman> strike4ce: right click your desktop choose configure desktop and then choose display
[07:48] <LeeJunFan> well, I gotta get some sleep. Later everyone.
[07:50] <strike4ce> kkathman:  in display settings it still shows 1280x768.  i called Dell they said its 1280x800
[07:50] <kkathman> ahh pl
[07:50] <kkathman> oops ok
[07:50] <Delvien> crap
[07:51] <Delvien> what runs /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0
[07:51] <Delvien> because now there is nothing in tehre
[07:51] <Delvien> and acpi0 is empty too
[07:52] <kkathman> strike4ce: check your xorg.conf file
[07:52] <kkathman> should be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:52] <kkathman> look under the Monitor section
[07:52] <Delvien> to show hidden files cnrtl h?
[07:52] <insanekane> anyone know why XIM doesn't work on Kubuntu Breezy ?
[07:52] <kkathman> You'll need to know some specifics to configure it
[07:53] <kkathman> Theres another section on Screen resolution I think
[07:53] <kkathman> lemme check
[07:53] <strike4ce> kkathman: yea, it shows 1280x800, which is correct.  It must be the driver.
[07:53] <insanekane> want to reconfigure the resolution of your display ?
[07:54] <strike4ce> insanekane: yes
[07:54] <insanekane> it could also possibly be due to the refresh rates ... lower refresh rates may not allow higher resolutions
[07:54] <insanekane> you should try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-corg'
[07:55] <kkathman> all good catch insanekane  :)
[07:55] <kkathman> nice :)
[07:55] <insanekane> ?
[07:55] <kkathman> I meant...AHHH good catch :)
[07:55] <insanekane> kkathman: i still don't understand what you mean :)
[07:56] <kkathman> lol nm...it was a compliment
[07:56] <strike4ce> Is that going to screw up my settings?  I have an ati card using xorg driver and changed "ATI" to fglrx.  If I reconfigure will it cause me problems?
[07:56] <insanekane> kkathman: ah ok :)
[07:56] <insanekane> strike4ce: using the dpkg-reconfigure method is probably much easier than mucking abt with xserver config files
[07:56] <strike4ce> insanekane: its a lcd laptop lower refresh rates dont matter
[07:57] <insanekane> strike4ce: k
[07:59] <kkathman> hmmm I have to remember to like clear my konversation logs occasionally :)
[08:03] <noirequus> kkathman: cron job weekly
[08:04] <kkathman> noirequus: yah I need to learn cron :)
[08:06] <kkathman> nalioth: why cant I just put in a command?  It seems it wants a "program" :(
[08:06] <nalioth> kkathman: i had a 58mb log for #ubuntu when i looked a couple weeks ago
[08:07] <nalioth> kkathman: cronjob a tar && gzip on your log file(s)
[08:07] <nalioth> kkathman: litte more to it then that, of course
[08:07] <kkathman> so do I have to script it?
[08:08] <nalioth> a script would probably allow greater freedom
[08:09] <kkathman> yahh all I really wanna do is just run rm /home/kkathman/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/*
[08:10] <kkathman> seems like I should be able to just set up a cron entry to run that command :(
[08:10] <nalioth> kkathman: it's your box. i back my logs up
[08:10] <insanekane> kkathman: why not `your command here`
[08:11] <kkathman> insanekane: ??
[08:11] <insanekane> kkathman: err, sorry, wrong hint :)
[08:22] <kkathman> well I guess I dont get the shell scripting
[08:23] <kkathman> I thought all you had to do was create a file that had commands in it, write that file out, to your home directory, chmod +x and then type the script name :(
[08:25] <nalioth> kkathman: you must make it executable (chmod +x filename)
[08:25] <kkathman> see above
[08:26] <kkathman> so I went into kate, typed my command. followed by an echo statement, saved the file as "konvkill"
[08:26] <nalioth> kkathman: must start his script with #!/bin/bash
[08:26] <kkathman> chmodded it +x
[08:26] <kkathman> awwww why??
[08:26] <kkathman> darn
[08:26] <kkathman> well so much for my idea
[08:27] <kkathman> I was gonna create a file to run the commands
[08:27] <kkathman> then cron the script
[08:28] <nalioth> so do it
[08:28] <kkathman> cant
[08:28] <kkathman> cuz
[08:28] <kkathman> kcron cant run /bin/bash/konvkill only konvkill
[08:28] <kkathman> but I guess I could put the command in /bin/bash eh?
[08:28] <nalioth> name the script "konvkill"
[08:29] <kkathman> I did
[08:29] <nalioth> kkathman: dont make me put the professor hat on, i'm watching Revenge Of The Sith, and i might get nasty
[08:29] <kkathman> ok
[08:29] <kkathman> sigh
[08:30] <kkathman> I did create a file called "konvkill", but in kcron, you can only run a "command", not a command-line command
[08:31] <kkathman> you are right that if you precede the filename with /bin/bash  it works
[08:31] <kkathman> but you cant do that in kcron :(
[08:32] <nalioth> kkathman: you can do it in cron, alsso
[08:34] <nalioth> kkathman: anything you make should go in /usr/local/  anyway
[08:34] <kkathman> ok
[08:34] <kkathman> well
[08:36] <insanekane> anyone here got XIM with scim working on kubuntu breezy ?
[08:38] <kkathman> nalioth: so I put in the program:  /bin/bash /usr/local/konvkill
[08:39] <kkathman> we'll see on Friday if that worked :)
[08:39] <nalioth> kkathman: no
[08:40] <nalioth> open  a text editor
[08:40] <nalioth> line 1 >> #!/bin/bash
[08:41] <nalioth> line 2 >> rm /home/kkathman/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/*
[08:41] <nalioth> put your echo statement where it belongs
[08:41] <kkathman> yah
[08:41] <nalioth> save the file as konvkill
[08:41] <nalioth> chmod +x konvkill
[08:41] <kkathman> why not just one line with the /bin/bash in frontt
[08:42] <nalioth> kkathman: because bash scripts look for #!/bin/bash
[08:42] <kkathman> ahh ok
[08:42] <kkathman> good point for me to remember :)
[08:42] <nalioth> mv konvkill to /usr/local/bin/
[08:42] <nalioth> edit cron accordingly
[08:43] <nalioth> kkathman: there are also #!/usr/bin/perl and #!/usr/bin/python scripts (and others)
[08:43] <nalioth> clear as mud?
[08:44] <kkathman> yes...well I actually did all that except for putting the bin/bash on a sep line
[08:44] <nalioth> kkathman: your konvkill at this point is a program taht can be run anytime anywhere
[08:44] <nalioth> how does it feel to be a program developer?
[08:46] <kkathman> one small problem
[08:46] <kkathman> when you put /usr/local/bin/konvkill in cron, it comes back and say "program is not executable"
[08:46] <nalioth> kkathman: then you havent chmod +x'd it
[08:46] <kkathman> hmm one sec...though I did
[08:47] <kkathman> oops
[08:48] <kkathman> I did it..but not in usr bin
[08:48] <nalioth> take the one out of /usr/bin
[08:48] <kkathman> yep
[08:49] <kkathman> well, we'll see :)
[08:49] <kkathman> but thats an exercise I have yet to do
[08:49] <kkathman> so thanx for the help...very nice :)
[08:52] <ganymed> hallo.
[08:53] <ganymed> my user administration doesn't work anymore. i am asked to give my passwd, but nothing happens. i am still in the normal user mode. any ideas? (kubuntu breezy)
[08:55] <kkathman> ganymed: you mean it doesnt work in breezy vs working in hoary?
[08:58] <ganymed> no. it has worked in breezy all the time. then i changed to normal root passwd. from then on it worked just from time to time. then i disabled the root passwd again, but it still doesn't work
[09:02] <Delvien> OMG how do i get rid of this ANNOYING beep when i backspace too far.. OMG !!
[09:02] <Delvien> drives me fricken crazy
[09:03] <kkathman> ganymed: interesting, because admin mode doesnt work period through the KDE screens..its a bug :)
[09:04] <Chousuke> Delvien: Can't remember the setting, but... rmmod pcspkr?
[09:05] <Chousuke> or alternatively open the case and snap the wire that goes to the pc speaker.
[09:06] <ganymed> and how to fix it?
[09:06] <Delvien> no no...
[09:06] <Delvien> How do i get rid of the sound that goes off when i backspace too far?
[09:07] <Delvien> or hit the up arrow to repeat a command in konsole
[09:07] <nalioth> Chousuke: that's kind of destructive, when the speaker simply unplugs from the mobo, in most cases
[09:07] <Chousuke> nalioth: That's being too soft.
[09:08] <ganymed> i have to go... so is there a way to fix it?
[09:09] <ganymed> ok. have to go. i ll come back later...
[09:09] <ganymed> ciao
[09:10] <kkathman> Im going to bed guyz...nighters
[09:11] <jarland> can anyone tell me why i cant enable my wireless network card? it says disabled, and if i endable it, it just disables again
[09:15] <Delvien> anyone know how to change cooling_mode?
[09:20] <Delvien> what does the command echo do?
[09:21] <nalioth> it echos echos echos echos echos echos
[09:23] <nuk130n> Delvien: man echo
[09:27] <Subvertir> hi
[09:27] <spiral> hi
[09:28] <Subvertir> http://pastebin.com/413054 this is my sources.list, with an error I'm getting trying to install samba at the bottom, can anyone tell me what the problem is?
[09:29] <Subvertir> the error is from 'apt-get install samba swat'
[09:31] <_mindspin> I'm haveing troubles with sound, soundserver crashes, its a known bug, but I'm kinda too stupid to "downgrade" artsd
[09:32] <Subvertir> you have to force it to remove artsd in spite of it breaking dependencies, then install the old version
[09:32] <Subvertir> --force-depends I think
[09:32] <_mindspin> yes but where are the repos for those?
[09:32] <Subvertir> dunno, google
[09:32] <_mindspin> haha
[09:33] <nalioth> and remember, any time you --force anything, you may break your box
[09:33] <crimsun> _mindspin: #16650?
[09:33] <_mindspin> id did its mentioned as "beta1"
[09:33] <Subvertir> my suggestion would be to just not use artsd
[09:33] <Subvertir> it sucks
[09:33] <_mindspin> and what else ?
[09:33] <Subvertir> just use programs that access /dev/dsp
[09:34] <crimsun> Subvertir: that subverts dmix,dsnoop
[09:34] <crimsun> not everyone has hardware natively capable of multiplexing streams
[09:34] <Subvertir> everyone can certainly afford it
[09:34] <crimsun> I beg to differ
[09:35] <Subvertir> $15 at wal-mart isn't going to break the bank
[09:35] <crimsun> and for the villages that don't have a proximal Wal-Mart?
[09:35] <Subvertir> I doubt they spend their day going, "DAMN! I wish I had multiplexing audio streams!"
[09:35] <crimsun> Ubuntu isn't just for developed and developing nations
[09:36] <crimsun> no, but it's our job as developers to provide an adequate solution for common sound chipsets
[09:36] <Subvertir> it's not users' job to use it
[09:36] <Subvertir> he's having issues with it and probably just wants to listen to mp3s
[09:37] <crimsun> of course, but what if he doesn't have hardware capable of multiplexing?
[09:37] <_mindspin> ok, besides politics, yes, I only wann alisten to mp3 s and stuff
[09:37] <crimsun> _mindspin: you didn't answer my question...
[09:38] <_mindspin> and when I try to remove artsd I am asked if I also wanna remove nearly anything sound related in kde
[09:38] <Subvertir> you remove it with dpkg, not apt
[09:38] <_mindspin> overread it 
[09:38] <crimsun> _mindspin: you don't need to remove artsd, just don't use it
[09:38] <Subvertir> and yeah, you don't really need to
[09:38] <_mindspin> ok so where can I disable it?
[09:39] <Subvertir> kcontrol, sound
[09:39] <Subvertir> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/413054 error resulting from 'apt-get install samba swat' any idea how to fix it?
[09:40] <_mindspin> btw. the new "system settings" thing is not my favourite....
[09:41] <crimsun> "samba: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-6 is to be installed"
[09:41] <crimsun> apt-cache policy samba-common
[09:42] <Subvertir> http://pastebin.com/413058
[09:43] <_mindspin> so where in kcontrol ? 
[09:43] <crimsun> Subvertir: and why is it instead of Hoary's installed?
[09:43] <Subvertir> ..the sound panel?
[09:44] <Subvertir> I dunno
[09:44] <_mindspin> haha
[09:44] <Subvertir> I think I switched this box from sarge to kubuntu or some dumb shit like that
[09:44] <Subvertir> it's been installed a pretty long time
[09:44] <crimsun> Subvertir: you have Breezy's samba-common installed, but your sources.list is for Hoary.
[09:44] <Subvertir> or from ubuntu to kubuntu
[09:45] <crimsun> pick one of either 5.04 or 5.10
[09:45] <Subvertir> I don't understand what you mean
[09:45] <crimsun> you can't install samba because it depends on an older version of samba-common
[09:46] <crimsun> the samba-common you have installed is from Breezy/5.10
[09:46] <crimsun> your sources.list is for Hoary/5.04
[09:46] <crimsun> so pick one: 5.04 or 5.10
[09:47] <crimsun> personally, just change all references of "hoary" to "breezy", then update && dist-upgrade
[09:47] <Subvertir> man I can't find a TERM setting for putty that doesn't have some wackiness going on
[09:47] <Subvertir> rxvt is almost right
[09:48] <crimsun> why not just use xterm, or failing that, vt100?
[09:48] <Subvertir> delete doesn't work
[09:48] <crimsun> ctrl+h?
[09:48] <crimsun> you can rebind that, no big deal
[09:48] <Subvertir> ill have to google that
[09:51] <Subvertir> oh, so I don't need the kde repository for breezy?
[09:51] <crimsun> not that I can tell
[09:51] <Subvertir> cool
[09:51] <Subvertir> thanks for your help dude
[09:52] <crimsun> I'd comment out everything that isn't official Ubuntu for the dist-upgrade
[09:52] <Subvertir> yeah good call
[09:52] <nalioth> and hope your unofficial repo usage doesn't hang up the upgrade
[09:54] <_mindspin> nice, the sound error window pops up every ten seconds 
[09:55] <Subvertir> it's in kcontrol in the sound tab...
[09:55] <Subvertir> you click 'disable artsd' or somesuch
[09:56] <_mindspin> nope
[09:56] <_mindspin> would be nice
[09:56] <Subvertir> nah, it's there
[09:56] <_mindspin> if there were anything alike
[09:56] <_mindspin> i can choose wther to use alsa or oss and such but nothing about artsd
[09:57] <Subvertir> there are other sound servers
[09:57] <Subvertir> and I think there are arts wrappers for some of them
[09:57] <Subvertir> I've honestly never had any situation where multiplexing was actually necessary for just listening to music or playing games
[09:58] <_mindspin> man i#m not stuck to that frecking artsdaemon
[09:58] <_mindspin> If I knew where I would have deactivated/uninstalled from the beginning
[10:12] <mth`MAW> Good morning
[10:22] <_enrique> buenos dias
[10:23] <_enrique> buenos dias
[10:25] <mth`MAW> Guten Morgen
[10:25] <mth`MAW> Every body in his/her native language ;)
[10:27] <minde924> Labas rytas
[10:28] <mth`MAW> labas What?
[10:28] <mth`MAW> what kind of language is that?
[10:29] <minde924> Labas rytas - Good morning in lithuanian language
[10:29] <raphink> labadiena minde924 :)
[10:29] <minde924> :)
[10:29] <mth`MAW> I see
[10:29] <mth`MAW> lithuanian 
[10:30] <minde924> raphink labas
[10:31] <raphink> :)
[10:32] <raphink> minde924: as you're here, maybe you could help me on something I've been struggling with for years
[10:34] <raphink> minde924: a friend of mine gave me her email add @takas.lt some years ago
[10:34] <raphink> and I was never able to use it
[10:35] <raphink> do you know where I could search in order to find her?
[10:35] <minde924> raphink: my enlgish is poor but I can try to help you
[10:37] <raphink> any idea minde924 ?
[10:38] <minde924> raphink: I think what is impossible
[10:39] <raphink> nothing is impossible to good willing people minde924 ;)
[10:43] <minde924> raphink: could you give me your friend e-mail? 
[10:43] <raphink> it doesn't work minde924 
[10:43] <raphink> I think also because it has an accent in it
[10:45] <minde924> raphink: Do you know real name of your friend?
[10:45] <raphink> yes minde924 
[10:56] <stratovarius> guys I tried to install nvidia drivers on my kubuntu breezy but nvidia installer says me I have no nvidia modules in kernel. what can I do?who can help me? thx
[10:57] <stratovarius> this is my kernel 2.6.12-9-386
[11:06] <PanBlueCoalition> is there a net install disk for kubuntu?
[11:07] <insanekane> PanBlueCoalition: not that I know of
[11:15] <czert> hi
[11:15] <xuniL____> hello czert
[11:15] <czert> where can i change audio-drive alsasink....
[11:15] <czert> i cant stream videos...
[11:15] <czert> xuniL hi
[11:15] <xuniL____> wich program are you useing...
[11:15] <xuniL____> ?
[11:16] <czert> konqueror
[11:16] <czert> and i forget where can i change audio-drive...
[11:16] <czert> damn it :)
[11:16] <xuniL____> but to read audio files in konq konq uses a program...?
[11:17] <PanBlueCoalition> anyone knows a fast mirror (AP region) to download the iso from?
[11:17] <czert> when you are streaming video...i think yes
[11:17] <czert> i dont know..
[11:18] <czert> somewhere are settings where can i change alsasink to another driver...
[11:19] <czert> when i open this link it just tell me error...http://www.streaming-clips.com/videoclips/1883/Alicia-Keys/Karma.php
[11:20] <czert> that i have a wrong audio-driver and i should change it.....
[11:20] <czert> btw its a good page for clips
[11:21] <czert> if i could just remeber where are those settings\
[11:21] <czert> anybody knows?
[11:21] <czert> *remebmer
[11:21] <czert> damn
[11:21] <izut> Hi there.
[11:21] <czert> *remember
[11:22] <czert> hi
[11:22] <izut> Do you know if kmail has some autoprune feature like pine has?
[11:22] <czert> i dont know i am newbie :)
[11:22] <izut> :)
[11:22] <izut> Welcome then :)
[11:22] <czert> hh
[11:22] <czert> thanks
[11:23] <czert> i am here to ask how can i change audio-driver alsasink in konqueror to another audio-driver
[11:24] <czert> because i want to watch streamed videos on web and it just tells me error
[11:25] <izut> I think you must use 'System Settings' to do that.
[11:25] <PanBlueCoalition> this is piss slow.
[11:25] <czert> where exactly will i find it?
[11:25] <czert> can you tell me?
[11:26] <ndazza> hi! what type of file locking is done on the mbox files in /var/mail/<user> ? I am trying to read my mbox account in kmail
[11:26] <izut> I think is 'System Settings' > 'Sound and multimedia'
[11:26] <izut> I'm not at home right now.
[11:27] <czert> ee i cant see it there
[11:30] <czert> damn, i was changing it once but now i cant remember where...
[11:39] <czert>  at last!
[11:39] <czert> bingo
[11:40] <xuniL____> heh
[11:42] <CyberMad> what is the command to install gcc and cc ?
[11:42] <czert> apt-get install
[11:43] <CyberMad> thanks mate
[11:43] <czert> or download it from webpage and istall it by: dpkg -i packagename
[11:43] <izut> sudo apt-get install gcc
[11:43] <czert> jop
[11:50] <czert> damn i have another problem
[11:51] <czert> i have set audio and video driver for streaming, and now when i open web page with streaming video my konqueror close and nothing happens.
[11:52] <czert> why??
[11:52] <czert> and what can i do??
[11:52] <czert> its some type of bug?
[11:55] <czert> when i open for example this page nothing happens and my konqueror shut down http://www.streaming-clips.com/videoclips/1883/Alicia-Keys/Karma.php
[11:55] <mcscruff> lo
[11:55] <mcscruff> how can i check if my parallel port has been detected?
[11:57] <czert> and what is connected with that parallel port?
[11:57] <mcscruff> i want to use it in vmware
[11:57] <mcscruff> for an adapter
[11:58] <mcscruff> but i need to add it to vmware settings and have no idea where it is
[11:58] <czert> ask some expert..not me :)
[11:58] <mcscruff> lol
[11:58] <mcscruff> kk
[11:58] <czert> i am here to ask too, but everyone is ignoring..
[11:59] <czert> damn it
[11:59] <mcscruff> i think its /dev/lp0
[11:59] <Tm_T> it is
[11:59] <czert> can be
[11:59] <mcscruff> whats ur Q
[12:00] <Tm_T> czert: I think its pluginrelated issue
[12:00] <czert> can you tell me why when i open page with streaming video my konqueror close and nothing happens?
[12:00] <Tm_T> czert: ah, kaffeine
[12:00] <czert> yes
[12:00] <Tm_T> rest my case
[12:00] <mcscruff> got the codecs?
[12:00] <czert> and how can i make it works
[12:00] <Tm_T> fix the bugs
[12:00] <mcscruff> kaffine does suck
[12:00] <czert> yeah
[12:00] <Tm_T> egreed =)
[12:00] <Tm_T> a
[12:01] <mcscruff> i think you can get mplayer to work 
[12:01] <Tm_T> I need caffeine ->
[12:01] <Tm_T> kmplayer!
[12:01] <czert> kmplayer?
[12:01] <mcscruff> its kde's front end for mplayer
[12:01] <Tm_T> nope
[12:01] <mcscruff> and i think that works in konqueror
[12:01] <mcscruff> its not then :P
[12:02] <Tm_T> its kde frontend for mplayer/xine/gstreamer
[12:02] <Tm_T> there is BIG difference ;)
[12:02] <czert> uhm thanks
[12:02] <mcscruff> Video player plugin for Konqueror using MPlayer, Xine or GStreamer.
[12:02] <czert> so i need to download, install and set kmplayer
[12:02] <mcscruff> ^kmplayer
[12:02] <mcscruff> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=10004
[12:03] <Tm_T> I prefer svn
[12:03] <czert> wow thanks a lot
[12:03] <mcscruff> now i need to run and buy batterys, but i also need to wait for the postman !!! WHAT DO I DO!!!!
[12:03] <Tm_T> how about shoot yourself?
[12:04] <Tm_T> ] ;=
[12:04] <mcscruff> lol
[12:04] <Tm_T> I really DO need caffeine ->
[12:07] <czert> how can i repair this?
[12:07] <czert> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:07] <czert> See `config.log' for more details.
[12:08] <czert> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[12:09] <czert> i dont know what to do...
[12:09] <czert> everytime when i use ./config this happens
[12:11] <czert> should i set somewhere C compiler default output file name? or what? and how?
[12:12] <CyberMad> how to know what version of my kubuntu?
[12:14] <crimsun> CyberMad: lsb_release -a
[12:15] <CyberMad> thanks
[12:21] <CyberMad> does anyone here ever install FreeRadius (www.freeradius.org) on Linux? i try install it on Kubuntu v5.04 and have problems when do make and make install
[12:23] <CyberMad> i haven't install FreeRadius on other distro :| i just install it on Kubuntu and have that problem :(
[12:23] <manveru> what problem?
[12:24] <CyberMad> there are a lot of syntax error :(
[12:24] <manveru> how about pasting it?
[12:24] <manveru> rafb.net/paste
[12:25] <CyberMad> like: x99.h:146: error: syxtax error before "des_cblock" and many more
[12:25] <CyberMad> oh.. ok manveru
[12:25] <manveru> ^^
[12:26] <CyberMad> just a minute
[12:26] <manveru> hmm - i am thinking how a SGPL would perform, a kind of Secure GPL where they give you a kind of certainity that the application won't harm you...
[12:27] <manveru> only tracing back who exactly is resposible would be a mess...
[12:29] <CyberMad> btw what language should i use at rafb.net ? Does using a plain text is okay?
[12:29] <manveru> sure
[12:29] <manveru> it's only for sytax-highlighting
[12:30] <DocTomoe> has anyone a suggestion how to get klaptopdaemon running on an acer extensa 2600 laptop with 2.6.14 and acpi activated on breezy?
[12:34] <manveru> CyberMad: got it?
[12:34] <manveru> ah, i see
[12:34] <CyberMad> okay. this is the log file : 
[12:35] <manveru> x99.h:26:42: openssl/des.h: No such file or directory
[12:35] <manveru> i guess that's the source of the problem
[12:36] <manveru> have you got openssl installed?
[12:36] <manveru> and the openssl-dev
[12:36] <CyberMad> when i do ./configure the results are http://rafb.net/paste/results/kFo5b720.html
[12:36] <manveru> checking for openssl/ssl.h... no
[12:37] <manveru> yeap
[12:37] <manveru> somehow this is no falid error
[12:37] <manveru> fatal :)
[12:37] <manveru> please check that you have openssl and openssl-dev installed and retry it
[12:37] <CyberMad> okay and when i do the sudo make the results are http://rafb.net/paste/results/aBMXev40.html
[12:38] <czert> i have a problem with GCC
[12:38] <manveru> CyberMad: you shouldn't do a make as root
[12:38] <czert> "C compiler default output file name"
[12:40] <CyberMad> that means i should install the openssl? how to do it? could i do it using apt?
[12:40] <manveru> what are you normally using to install software?
[12:40] <czert> damn damn damn shit
[12:40] <czert> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[12:40] <CyberMad> okay... right now i am installing openssl using command sudo apt-get install openssl
[12:40] <manveru> czert: what's your problem?
[12:41] <manveru> CyberMad: ok
[12:41] <manveru> CyberMad: just searching for the right openssl-dev package
[12:41] <czert> i am looking on google to solve my problem with gcc
[12:41] <mustard5> czert perhaps you can share it with us?
[12:41] <czert> hmm 
[12:41] <czert> ok
[12:41] <manveru> CyberMad: libssl-dev is what you need
[12:41] <czert> when i type ./config to terminal
[12:42] <czert> it allways show me this message
[12:42] <manveru> CyberMad: and if you want i can teach you how to build a .deb file out of sourcecode with minimal effort
[12:42] <czert> checking for gcc... gcc
[12:42] <czert> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:42] <czert> See `config.log' for more details.
[12:42] <czert> and then
[12:42] <CyberMad> okay i am installing libssl-dev right now...
[12:43] <czert> kmplayer-0.9.1# make
[12:43] <czert> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[12:44] <manveru> czert: have yout got build-essentials installed?
[12:44] <mustard5> ubotu: tell czert about the pastebin
[12:44] <czert> hmm i dont know what to do..
[12:44] <mustard5> czert, try pasting all the output in pastebin and show us the URL to the pastebin your create
[12:44] <mustard5> czert, ubotu sent instructions about pastebin
[12:44] <manveru> ubotu: tell manveru about pastebin
[12:44] <czert> pastebin? sory can you explain it ? :)
[12:44] <mustard5> !pastebin
[12:44] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:45] <czert> thanks :)
[12:45] <stratovarius> guys how can I install the damned nvidia driver on kubuntu breezy?
[12:45] <mustard5> czert, paste your output from terminal and then show us the URL so we can look at it
[12:46] <manveru> ubotu: tell stratovarius about nvidia
[12:47] <stratovarius> manveu I've already looked at that links
[12:47] <manveru> brb
[12:47] <stratovarius> *link
[12:48] <stratovarius> :\
[12:48] <manveru> stratovarius: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:48] <stratovarius> already looked at that link
[12:48] <manveru> and what's the problem?
[12:48] <stratovarius> I tried to install nvidia driver downloading nvidia installer
[12:48] <manveru> sry, but gotta go eating, brb
[12:49] <stratovarius> I execute it but it says me I've no module in kernel for my video card
[12:49] <czert> i think this is it http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3928
[12:50] <stratovarius> czert u need to install gcc
[12:50] <czert> i have installed gcc
[12:50] <mateusz> witam ;] 
[12:50] <CyberMad> oh my god... my brain is gonna blow up :( the errors of installing FreeRadius too much error :(
[12:51] <stratovarius> already installed build-essential?
[12:51] <czert> what is build-essential?
[12:51] <stratovarius> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:52] <stratovarius> czert install it and try again
[12:52] <czert> installing :)
[12:52] <stratovarius> k
[12:53] <stratovarius> czert what were you trying to install?
[12:53] <czert> it looks like it works :)
[12:53] <CyberMad> manveru it's work :)
[12:53] <CyberMad> manveru because the openssl :) thanks a lot!!!
[12:54] <stratovarius> czert does it work?
[12:54] <czert> stratovarius kmplayer
[12:54] <stratovarius> mmm
[12:54] <czert> it looks like yes
[12:54] <stratovarius> I think it's better vlc
[12:54] <czert> ooo no
[12:55] <stratovarius> kmplayer needs to play video doesnt it?
[12:55] <czert> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[12:55] <stratovarius> mmm
[12:55] <czert> still another and another problem 
[12:56] <stratovarius> what command did u give to install kmplayer?
[12:57] <czert> just ./configure
[12:57] <stratovarius> try sudo /configure
[12:57] <czert> ok
[12:57] <stratovarius> sudo ./configure
[12:59] <stratovarius> czert do you use kde or gnome?
[01:00] <czert> kde
[01:00] <czert> stil: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:00] <stratovarius> czert try sudo apt-get install xorg-dev
[01:01] <stratovarius> and then try again to install kmplayer
[01:01] <czert> ok
[01:02] <czert> sudo apt-get install xorg-dev
[01:02] <czert> Reading package lists... Done
[01:02] <czert> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:02] <czert> E: Couldn't find package xorg-dev
[01:03] <stratovarius> czert wai for a while
[01:04] <czert> ok
[01:04] <mart> hi
[01:04] <stratovarius> czert try sudo apt-get insatll xorg-common
[01:04] <mart> is it just me, or did amarok disappear from the K menu?
[01:06] <czert> Reading package lists... Done
[01:06] <czert> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:06] <czert> xorg-common is already the newest version.
[01:06] <czert> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:06] <stratovarius> czert dunno
[01:06] <stratovarius> im not able to help u srry
[01:06] <czert> dunno? whats that?
[01:07] <stratovarius> I dont know (dunno) how to help you
[01:07] <czert> never mind, thanks anyway
[01:07] <czert> i aprishiate that you try..
[01:09] <mart> anyone else missing amarok in the K menu?
[01:14] <czert> mart , no i have it
[01:14] <mart> damn, in breezy?
[01:14] <czert> yes
[01:14] <czert> try to add it there manualy..
[01:15] <mart> hmm, it should be there
[01:15] <czert> yeah
[01:15] <mart> the desktop file is there, and it looks right
[01:17] <czert> ok i give up
[01:17] <czert> i dont know how to set this...
[01:17] <mart> hmm, when I grep $HOME/.kde/share for amarok, I just get backtraces :)
[01:17] <czert> Reading package lists... Done
[01:17] <czert> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:17] <czert> xorg-common is already the newest version.
[01:17] <czert> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:17] <czert> hmm not this
[01:18] <czert> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:18] <mart> czert: so do that?
[01:19] <mart> czert: what are you trying to do
[01:20] <czert> when i run ./configure then this shows me..
[01:20] <czert> i am trying to install kmplayer
[01:21] <mart> and you've installed libx11-dev?
[01:21] <mart> (or whatever has the includes that it's looking for)
[01:21] <czert> i dont know 
[01:22] <czert> what package should i install to run it?
[01:22] <mart> try installing it :)
[01:22] <czert> ok :))
[01:22] <mart> libx11-dev
[01:24] <hanseatic> hi
[01:25] <mart> czert: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/multimedia/kmplayer/debian/control?rev=472110&view=auto
[01:25] <hanseatic> i have a strange behaviour in my new kubuntu 5.10 already updated standard installation
[01:25] <mart> czert: install all the packages listed in the Build-Depends: line
[01:27] <hanseatic> when i start adept i am beeing asked for the passwd.... when entered it works fine, and starts adept, but when i start the administrator mode in the login manager of the kde system settings, the window refreshes, without going in admin mode
[01:27] <czert> these? debhelper (>= 4.0.0), kdelibs4-dev, libxine-dev, xlibs-dev, libgstreamer0.8-dev, libgstreamer-plugins0.8-dev
[01:27] <mart> czert: yes
[01:27] <czert> ok
[01:29] <hanseatic> trying to restart adapt gives the error: dcop communications error
[01:30] <hanseatic> none of the protocols specified....
[01:38] <czert> hehehe damn
[01:39] <czert> everytime when i run ./configure when it comes to check for X it show error
[01:39] <apokryphos> czert: what are you trying to compile?
[01:39] <czert> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:39] <czert> kdelibs
[01:39] <czert> it doesnt matters
[01:39] <apokryphos> czert: sudo apt-get build-dep kdelibs 
[01:39] <czert> it show everytime
[01:39] <czert> ok
[01:40] <czert> but i would like to repair this problem...can you tell me how ? :)
[01:40] <apokryphos> czert: that *will* repair the problem :)
[01:40] <apokryphos> czert: build-dep option resolves dependencies for a given package
[01:41] <czert> btw 
[01:41] <czert> # sudo apt-get build-dep kdelibs
[01:41] <czert> Reading package lists... Done
[01:41] <czert> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:41] <czert> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[01:41] <apokryphos> czert: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the deb-src lines
[01:41] <czert> this will configure X?
[01:41] <apokryphos> the compile error has nothing to do with your configuration of X
[01:41] <apokryphos> it comes up if you don't have the X includes
[01:42] <apokryphos> if you're building kdelibs then you'll want all the build-dependencies required for building it. The apt-get build-dep can be used for this purpose
[01:42] <mart> czert: you've installed the packages listed as build depends as above?
[01:43] <czert> mart working on it :)
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaise1> having fun mez? ;S
[01:43] <mart> czert: do that before you run configure :)
[01:43] <czert> hmm but i run configure for another program..
[01:44] <apokryphos> what?
[01:44] <mart> don't bother with apt-get build-dep kdelibs, it'll install more than you need.
[01:44] <apokryphos> mart: err, no. If he's building kdelibs, it'll install *exactly* what he needs
[01:44] <mart> apokryphos: he told me he was building kmplayer.
[01:44] <apokryphos> :/
[01:44] <Tm_T> :)
[01:45] <czert> yeah yeah i am newbie...so many times i dont understand... :))
[01:45] <czert> ok i am going to have a lunch
[01:46] <czert> thanks for help
[01:46] <czert> see ya!
[01:54] <hanseatic> hi apokryphos
[01:55] <hanseatic> i reinstalled, a non expert installation now, and this time it did not ask me for a rootpasswd ;o)
[01:55] <apokryphos> hi
[01:55] <apokryphos> oh, you didn't mention that you had done an expert... ok.
[01:56] <AbuToni> hello
[01:56] <AbuToni> I need some help using Kubunto
[01:57] <hanseatic> however there must be some bug with dcop... i can start adept now, but not after i tried to get into admin mode of the login manager (that fails too without errors)... after that i get a dcop error, i'd have to copy by hand
[01:57] <apokryphos> what is it?
[01:57] <hanseatic> dcop?
[01:57] <apokryphos> AbuToni: you won't get any help if you don't ask questions 8)
[01:57] <apokryphos> hanseatic: yes
[01:58] <AbuToni> apokryphos:  ok during setup it didn't ask me for root password and now when i try to do anything it asks me for it
[01:58] <apokryphos> !root
[01:58] <ubotu> hmm... root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:59] <AbuToni> apokryphos:  it says to me Run as root -KDE su
[01:59] <apokryphos> AbuToni: what?
[01:59] <apokryphos> AbuToni: read that link I provided above
[01:59] <AbuToni> when i try to adjust date and time
[02:00] <AbuToni> have you tryed this apokryphos 
[02:01] <apokryphos> yes; have you read that page?
[02:01] <apokryphos> Ubuntu should never ask you for the *root* password
[02:01] <AbuToni> I have red that
[02:01] <AbuToni> apokryphos:  are you now running kubunto?
[02:01] <hanseatic> authentication rejected. Reason: none of the authentication protokols specified are supported abd host based authentication failed. chack if dcopserver is running
[02:02] <apokryphos> hanseatic: have you been sudoing any apps?
[02:04] <AbuToni> apokryphos:  try to right click on the clock on the bottom of your window and do "Adjust Date & Time"
[02:04] <apokryphos> AbuToni: did you read the page?
[02:05] <hanseatic> apo no, exept pressing the login manager admin button
[02:05] <AbuToni> yes
[02:05] <apokryphos> hanseatic: are you on i386?
[02:05] <apokryphos> AbuToni: doesn't sound like you have..
[02:05] <AbuToni> why>
[02:05] <hanseatic> @apo yes...
[02:05] <AbuToni> ??
[02:06] <hanseatic> pemtium M
[02:06] <apokryphos> AbuToni: the only time you'd be asked for a root password is if you built kde manually or something. Did you?
[02:06] <AbuToni> nop
[02:06] <AbuToni> did you try what i asked you to try?
[02:07] <hanseatic> you are asked, when you boot the install cd with expert ;o)
[02:07] <apokryphos> hanseatic: install the package here: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8681
[02:07] <apokryphos> AbuToni: obviously; several times before.
[02:07] <AbuToni> and what did it asked you for?
[02:07] <apokryphos> obviously the user password
[02:07] <apokryphos> AbuToni: did you do expert mode?
[02:07] <AbuToni> why is it asking me for the root password?
[02:07] <AbuToni> apokryphos:  when is this gotta be chosen?
[02:07] <apokryphos> AbuToni: on the installation of Ubuntu/Kubuntu. You shouldn't choose it unless you know what you're doing
[02:08] <AbuToni> apokryphos:  i understand english
[02:08] <AbuToni> thanks for translating
[02:08] <hanseatic> @apo thanx !!! :o)
[02:08] <AbuToni> I am wondering when in the installation I am aksed to use expert mode or else
[02:08] <apokryphos> AbuToni: whatt?
[02:08] <AbuToni> ???
[02:08] <apokryphos> I don't remember
[02:10] <AbuToni> apokryphos:  thanks for your help i have fixed the problem by enabling the root account
[02:10] <hanseatic> newbquestion.... how do i install that?
[02:10] <Tm_T> apokryphos: thank you
[02:10] <apokryphos> hanseatic: sudo dpkg -i somefile.deb
[02:11] <AbuToni>  have typed in the shell -----------> sudo passwd root
[02:11] <apokryphos> as the link says, you shouldn't have to use root at all
[02:11] <apokryphos> if you do, then something is obviously going wrong
[02:13] <hanseatic> when i try to download te file it tells me its binary and saving will corrupt it, when i type dpkg -i url it errors since the command expects an archive
[02:14] <apokryphos> wget someurl.com/somefile
[02:14] <apokryphos> though, trying to open the .deb with kate is a bug
[02:14] <burepe> I installed gnome with apt-get ubuntu-desktop and it made gnome-bittorrent my default bittorrent application. Before I was using bittornado. Now I can't find bittornado in my menu, I don't know the command to start the gui for it, and Synaptic says it is installed already. I uninstall and installed it again with no success. Gnome-bittorrent is using default ports and I am getting rejected by the tracker. I have been trying to use bittorren
[02:14] <burepe> t command line but it is driving me crazy. Can someone tell me how to get bittornado working or how to change my ports in Gnome-bittorrent?
[02:16] <apokryphos> burepe: isn't the executable something like btdownloadgui
[02:16] <hanseatic> maybe i am really to dumb for this, but wget now sucked some cgi script
[02:16] <apokryphos> or btdownloadcurses (for CLI)
[02:16] <apokryphos> hanseatic: what's the exact command you're putting in?
[02:17] <burepe> bow
[02:17] <burepe> naw
[02:17] <hanseatic> wget http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61850
[02:17] <apokryphos> hanseatic: whyy?
[02:17] <hanseatic> sudo dpkg -i show_bug.cgi\?id\=61850
[02:17] <apokryphos> burepe: for bittornado? It is btdownloadcurses, yes
[02:18] <apokryphos> hanseatic: you're looking at comment 59, right? http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8681#c59
[02:18] <hanseatic> i cannot find any file.deb on that page
[02:18] <apokryphos> hanseatic: Ctrl+F in webpages is handy :)
[02:18] <burepe> there are three btdownloadcures, btdownloadcurses.bittornado, btdownloadcurses.bittorrent
[02:19] <burepe> I get no gui when I do them 
[02:19] <hanseatic> no... there was an #59 missing on the url you gave me before... 
[02:19] <burepe> just a list of options that I am having trouble using
[02:19] <apokryphos> burepe: you're looking for the GUI of which program, then?
[02:19] <apokryphos> hanseatic: hm, may have been the wrong link then. Apologies.
[02:20] <burepe> bittornado
[02:20] <apokryphos> burepe: well, try all the executables that it brings in then
[02:20] <burepe> you can change ports in its gui
[02:20] <burepe> did it
[02:20] <apokryphos> you can change ports in its CLI
[02:20] <hanseatic> thanx anyway...
[02:20] <burepe> what is cli?
[02:20] <apokryphos> command line interface
[02:21] <hanseatic> i'll try this now
[02:21] <apokryphos> burepe: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=bittornado&searchmode=filelist&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386
[02:21] <apokryphos> burepe: all the things shown there under /usr/bin .. you've tried them?
[02:21] <burepe> there are just stuff under bt...
[02:21] <burepe> I tried them all
[02:22] <burepe> They are listed on the link that you just posted
[02:23] <apokryphos> burepe: then evidently it follows that there's no gui for BitTornado, no?
[02:23] <burepe> right
[02:23] <burepe> but synaptic says it is installed 
[02:23] <apokryphos> burepe: in which case I'm wondering why you're looking for something that apparently doesn't exist ;-)
[02:23] <burepe> and I have used it
[02:23] <ep> (Breezy Kubuntu) System Settings --> Administrator Mode is not accepting my root password, there is no error message, just a pause and  refresh back to a non-administrator screen.  Is this a bug?  How do i work-around or fix?.  
[02:24] <burepe> because I used it
[02:24] <apokryphos> ep: it asks for the user pass, not the root one. Are you on i386?
[02:24] <ep> yes
[02:24] <burepe> ubuntu-desktop stole the associtation
[02:24] <apokryphos> ep: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8681#c59
[02:25] <burepe> Ok if it doesn't exist how do I get it?
[02:25] <burepe> Ok, I'll check synaptic.
[02:25] <burepe> Oh, it's already installed.
[02:25] <apokryphos> oO
[02:25] <burepe> but it doesn't exist
[02:26] <burepe> catch 22
[02:26] <hanseatic> apo many thanx again, it seems to work now, so far
[02:29] <apokryphos> burepe: hm, seems that ubuntu doesn't package it with the GUI
[02:29] <apokryphos> burepe: if you get the tar.gz from their site though you can apparently have a gui there
[02:29] <apokryphos> burepe: ahhh, there's a bttornado-gui package :)
[02:29] <burepe> what is it 
[02:29] <burepe> maybe I am missing the repo
[02:30] <apokryphos> no, you've got the repo, but probably not the package
[02:30] <apokryphos> it's in Universe
[02:30] <burepe> I searched it and it came up with one package
[02:30] <apokryphos> !repositories
[02:31] <apokryphos> !+repositories
[02:31] <ubotu> repositories is probably How to add repositories:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:31] <burepe> Thanks 
[02:31] <burepe> I think that is it
[02:31] <burepe> I messed my system and I reinstalled and i kinda breezed by the repositories step
[02:32] <burepe> I am not a fluent yet
[02:32] <apokryphos> ok, no worries. We're here to help
[02:35] <burepe> the repo file is /etc/... what?
[02:35] <Mez> who banned me
[02:35] <apokryphos> me 
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb mez
[02:35] <Mez> apokryphos, why ?
[02:35] <apokryphos> Mez: join/parting like crazy ;-)
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> for an hour ;)
[02:35] <Mez> blame stupid hotel wifi
[02:36] <Mez> now I'm downstairs using the ubuntu wifi
[02:36] <Mez> it works fine
[02:36] <apokryphos> cool
[02:37] <burepe> wata4wa
[02:38] <burepe> Sorry where is sources.list located?
[02:39] <Mez> /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:39] <burepe> thanks
[02:39] <burepe> forgot the apt
[02:39] <apokryphos> burepe: though the guide tells you how to do it from adept
[02:40] <burepe> yeah
[02:40] <burepe> I kinda know what im doing just rusty
[02:41] <burepe> didnt realize that was the problem
[02:41] <burepe> I know there is one repo that can screw up your system is that the backports?
[02:42] <apokryphos> Mez: how would you set op commands from outside a channel through chanserv?
[02:42] <Mez> apokryphos, ???
[02:42] <apokryphos> burepe: a certain type of backports, yes.
[02:43] <Mez> burope - debian backports/marillat/unofficial backports
[02:43] <burepe> is that not included in this how to?
[02:43] <apokryphos> Mez: ChanServ [ChanServ@services.]  has set mode -b Mez!*@*. How would you do that from outside a chan?
[02:43] <burepe> got it
[02:43] <burepe> thanks
[02:44] <Mez> apokryphos, /msg chanserv unban #channel
[02:44] <apokryphos> I see
[02:45] <burepe> hey the list for hoary that you one of you gave me is a generic list. I am in Japan. so should I put jp after the // or just leave it alone?
[02:46] <apokryphos> !mirrors
[02:46] <ubotu> mirrors is, like, repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[02:47] <burepe> but basically is is all the same addresses with the country code first? so I would be safe just editing in JP by hand right?
[02:50] <apokryphos> not if it doesn't exist, but it does seem to
[02:50] <burepe> thanks
[02:51] <at1as> 
[03:13] <at1as> 
[03:19] <at1as> 
[03:31] <CyberMad> how to login as "root" in ubuntu?
[03:32] <CyberMad> because when i installed the ubuntu, it never ask a password.. \
[03:32] <freeflying> dose anyone here use skim for as Input Method
[03:32] <tvo> !rootsudo
[03:32] <ubotu> rootsudo is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:32] <tvo> CyberMad: ^^
[03:33] <CyberMad> thanks.. 
[03:36] <johan> why i can't acces sound in gnomemeeting even i test sound and was ok :-(
[03:36] <freeflying> skim-1.4.3 released ,anyone wanto to use it can download deb from http://svn.ubuntu.org.cn/ubuntu-cn/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/skim/
[03:53] <hume> hi....i find that when i connect a digital camera to my ubuntu box, konqueror tries to open the address media:/sda1, that does not exist, since the camera is mounted to /media/usbdisk - how do I do to change this annoying behavior in konqueror?
[04:04] <izut> hume: I think it is a known issue in 5.10.
[04:05] <hume> izut, ok, seems i found it in bugzilla right this second...:)
[04:05] <hume> you got any idea of how to shut it down meanwhile, just stop the autoloading?
[04:06] <hume> it's for my mother in law, she is moving from win to ubuntu, and i need to be flawless.....
[04:06] <izut> Maybe you want to stop hald.
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> hume: you up to date ? a fix may be out
[04:06] <hume> izut, no, i want it to mount the cam smoothly
[04:07] <hume> Kamping_Kaiser, i'll check...installed two days ago, though...
[04:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> then you need to update
[04:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> the packages are from the 13th ;)
[04:07] <hume> ok
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> youwant to make sure your sources list has a "deb http://cc.archive.Ubuntu.com/Ubuntu $version main" line
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> where cc is your country code
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> and $version is your version of Ubuntu
[04:08] <hume> yep
[04:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)(
[04:09] <hume> breezy then
[04:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool. yep
[04:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> of course :$ i should have rememberered for 4 minutes
[04:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb
[04:11] <nxv_> hi. i have ubuntu breezy running on my desktop and my laptop
[04:11] <nxv_> my laptops seems to lack some fonts. eboard and xboards complains about some fonts it can't find. 
[04:11] <nxv_> don't know what is differen to my desktop setup
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> what fonts ?
[04:12] <nxv_> Kamping_Kaiser: xboard complains about: -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* eboard just says: <BareBoard::BareBoard> can't load font.
[04:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> lmao @ xboard. i have that problem on a Debian box, and i cant work it out :|
[04:14] <slow-motion> hallo
[04:14] <hume> nxv_, well....i had that problem on a debian box....and
[04:15] <hume> there is a font config somewhere where helvetica fonts are disabled, you need to comment out a section
[04:15] <nxv_> i will see if i find such a config
[04:15] <nxv_> but what confuses me most is: on my laptop and desktop same system
[04:15] <nxv_> one runs the other not??
[04:15] <nxv_> very strange
[04:16] <nxv_> i belive i have installed both again from cd when breezy got final
[04:16] <nxv_> can i check this ?
[04:17] <hume> nxv_, it was in /etc/fonts/local.conf.
[04:17] <nxv_> which is the default font server of ubuntu? or are fontservers outdated? 
[04:17] <hume> no idea
[04:17] <nxv_> xfs is not installed
[04:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> xfs
[04:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh. ok :
[04:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> :S
[04:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> i thout that's what it was. might be an xorg thing not needing it 
[04:18] <nxv_> i am not sure if xserver still need an standalone font server
[04:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah ok
[04:21] <nxv_> does any body know for sure how fonts are currently handled in ubuntu breezy?
[04:25] <strike4ce> !restricted
[04:25] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[04:25] <nxv_> in openoffice i have plenty of fonts
[04:29] <manveru> a quick question - what would be a good (best would be console-only) program to encode my wavs to mp3?
[04:29] <manveru> or probably ogg... that doesn't matter to me
[04:30] <dipnlik> manveru: oggenc
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> for ogg grab the vorbis-tools package
[04:30] <manveru> uh, heard about it :)
[04:30] <manveru> k
[04:30] <manveru> sweet
[04:30] <manveru> i had them already
[04:30] <apokryphos> what's the other CLI BT client again? BitTornado can do it; others?
[04:31] <izut> ktorrent.
[04:31] <manveru> BitTorrent
[04:31] <manveru> azureus
[04:31] <apokryphos> ktorrent and azureus aren't CLI BT clients
[04:31] <izut> Oh, sorry.
[04:31] <izut> apokryphos: You're right :)
[04:32] <manveru> what is CLI?
[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> command line interface
[04:32] <izut> Command Line Interface
[04:32] <manveru> ah, yeah
[04:32] <manveru> there are many of them i thought
[04:33] <manveru> hmm, apt-cache gives me only bittorrent and bittornado...
[04:33] <apokryphos> actually I think the official client might do; gonna check it out
[04:33] <manveru> maybe you find more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bittorrent
[04:34] <manveru> there's a list of bittorrentclients (at least a link to one)
[04:35] <apokryphos> aha, official client does it; perfect
[04:35] <the1000> what was that KDE util to se refresh rate?
[04:35] <the1000> and resolution
[04:35] <apokryphos> krandrtray
[04:35] <the1000> E: Couldn't find package krandrtray
[04:35] <the1000> wtf?
[04:36] <apokryphos> the1000: though you can also access it from right-clicking on the desktop
[04:36] <apokryphos> the1000: alt+f2 -> krandrtray
[04:37] <izut> Or through System Settings
[04:37] <mcscruff> hi, i have an adapter plugged into my parallel port is there any way that i can see if kubuntu has noticed it?
[04:38] <the1000> apokryphos: thnx!
[04:38] <nxv_> mcscruff: dmesg before and dmesg after plugin
[04:38] <the1000> brb
[04:38] <manveru> try alt+space btw :)
[04:38] <treefrog> is anyone using wine? I want to know if I will get a better result from installing winesetuptk or just wine? it seems that in adept you can use one or the other but not both.
[04:38] <nxv_> i did dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig deleted .font* from my homedir in the hope it will be regenarated
[04:39] <nxv_> still no running eboard or xboard. openoffice having plenty of fonts
[04:39] <manveru> openoffice has it's own set of fonts, right?
[04:40] <nxv_> manveru: don't know
[04:40] <nxv_> but i don't know how to ger my fonts running
[04:40] <manveru> your fonts?
[04:40] <manveru> have you got a bunch of ttfs or something?
[04:40] <nxv_> the fonts xboard or eboard needs to run
[04:41] <manveru> you can add fonts via kcontrol
[04:41] <nxv_> xboard complains helvetica, which as far as i know should be in 
[04:41] <apokryphos> some font fixes were made after breezy release
[04:41] <nxv_> xfonts-75dpi xfonts-100dpi
[04:41] <nxv_> which are both installed
[04:41] <manveru> there where more packages...
[04:42] <apokryphos> not sure if it'll resolve that particular problem, but your best bet is to enable breezy-updates and grab them
[04:42] <manveru> but i eventually forgot how they are called
[04:43] <Sarah> hi there
[04:43] <hume> nxv_, did you check the file i mentioned?
[04:43] <nxv_> http://phpfi.com/84961 shows my apt source list
[04:44] <nxv_> updates are included
[04:44] <nxv_> hume: u mean /etc/fonts/local.conf
[04:45] <apokryphos> nxv_: so sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:45] <hume> nxv_, yes
[04:45] <apokryphos> (making sure you first have kubuntu-desktop installed)
[04:45] <nxv_> hume: this file doesn't exist
[04:45] <nxv_> dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig says:
[04:45] <nxv_> Not replacing deleted config file /etc/fonts/local.conf
[04:45] <nxv_> when i dou a touch /etc/fonts/local.conf
[04:46] <nxv_> it is deleted after
[04:46] <nxv_> dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[04:46] <hume> is there another local.conf anywhere, in you home dir for instance?
[04:46] <manveru> my solution is always - purge something :)
[04:46] <nxv_> apokryphos: all is uptodate
[04:49] <nxv_> i have no further idears
[04:49] <nxv_> beside a reinstallation :(
[04:50] <soundmaster80> i would like to know how i can add a device to system menu >storage media, i have added the folder to /media but it's not showing up
[04:50] <manveru> nxv_: lemme try to help you
[04:50] <manveru> nxv_: you got two programs you want to install
[04:51] <manveru> nxv_: and they need a fonts you don't have?
[04:51] <nxv_> manveru: im thankful for any solution
[04:51] <manveru> a/font||fonts
[04:51] <nxv_> manveru: eboard and xboard are installed but cant be executed
[04:52] <manveru> board-games?
[04:52] <nxv_> apt should have taken care of the dependencies
[04:52] <nxv_> yes eboard
[04:52] <manveru> mom, trying to install them
[04:52] <nxv_> xboard was just another try
[04:52] <nxv_> but i want to use eboard
[04:53] <manveru> ok it runs
[04:53] <manveru> but it looks awful...
[04:53] <nxv_> kcontrol seems to know all fonts
[04:54] <nxv_> might it be a bash config trouble
[04:54] <manveru> yeah
[04:54] <manveru> i don't think it uses anything from bash
[04:54] <manveru> there is a font-server
[04:54] <nxv_> manveru: when u define eboard as awful what would u suggest to play chess only?
[04:54] <manveru> i play Go :)
[04:55] <nxv_> manveru: there is no more fontserver since quite a time afaik integrated in xorg/xserver 
[04:55] <nxv_> qgo?
[04:55] <manveru> yeah
[04:55] <manveru> but it's no eye-candy as well
[04:55] <manveru> and you want to play chess
[04:56] <nxv_> id loved eboard so far
[04:56] <nxv_> is xfst installed on ur sytem?
[04:56] <manveru> there is lack for beauty board-games
[04:56] <manveru> no
[04:58] <nxv_> if u want to laugh run 3dchess
[04:58] <nxv_> oh my good
[04:59] <manveru> uhm
[04:59] <manveru> how do i run it?
[04:59] <nxv_> install 3dchess
[04:59] <nxv_> 3Dc
[04:59] <manveru> unusual name...
[04:59] <CyberMad> does anyone know how to install glibc ?
[05:00] <nxv_> CyberMad: i gues u have it installed when ur system is up running
[05:00] <manveru> argh!?
[05:00] <nxv_> manveru: mad
[05:00] <manveru> nice idea...
[05:00] <CyberMad> how to check it?
[05:00] <manveru> but bad implementation...
[05:00] <nxv_> CyberMad: dpkg -l | grep glibc
[05:01] <CyberMad> ok i'll try.. thank u so much..
[05:02] <nxv_> CyberMad: i hope for u that u have no trouble with glibc
[05:02] <manveru> CyberMad: what do you need the glibc for?
[05:02] <manveru> CyberMad: guess you didn't wake up and thought 'hey, the last thing to reach enlightening is glibc'
[05:02] <CyberMad> i am installing freeradius and looks like have problem with it..
[05:03] <manveru> i thought you installed freeradius with no further problems?
[05:04] <CyberMad> no, still have few problems here like adding users and mysql
[05:04] <CyberMad> >.<
[05:04] <manveru> what errors do you get?
[05:05] <manveru> nxv_: sorry that i can't help you more...
[05:06] <nxv_> manveru: thanks for the attempt
[05:06] <nxv_> if i just knew where to find further advie
[05:06] <nxv_> +c
[05:06] <manveru> nxv_: it really sucks to see the board-games on linux compared to the windows ones tho...
[05:06] <CyberMad> when running radiusd -X, and do the "radtest test test localhost 0 secret" the end of the reply said that access reject... still don't know why..
[05:06] <nxv_> perhaps i shoul reinstall. as i am not entirly shure if i did so after breezy final rlease
[05:07] <manveru> nxv_: yeah, i guess something is b0rken
[05:07] <Strike4ce> I edited my xorg file Now Im on the recovery mode. How do istart up my backup xorg.conf?
[05:08] <manveru> CyberMad: and how do you get the idea that glibc is the cause of your trouble?
[05:08] <manveru> Strike4ce: did you make a backup?
[05:08] <Strike4ce> anyone help me?
[05:08] <Strike4ce> manveru yes with the backup tool Konserv I think?
[05:09] <manveru> Strike4ce: uh... never used Konserv :)
[05:09] <kazu> hi there
[05:09] <Strike4ce> apokryphos can you help me?
[05:09] <CyberMad> because the radius book that i read said that i need to check the glibc, gmake, gcc and binutils before do the ./configure command
[05:10] <manveru> Strike4ce: however, the essentials being just copy your backedup xorg.conf back to /usr/X11/xorg.conf
[05:10] <Strike4ce> manveru kubuntu auto backsup the file anyways. How do i get it started?
[05:10] <manveru> Strike4ce: since i don't know where your backup is, i can't tell you the exact command
[05:10] <manveru> CyberMad: this is just the std-blabla at the beginning of a compilation
[05:11] <manveru> CyberMad: but since the ssl didn't throw an exception i'm not so sure there are no others
[05:11] <manveru> CyberMad: that cause trouble
[05:11] <manveru> Strike4ce: but wait a second, i'll fire up Konserv, wanted to check it out some time ago
[05:12] <manveru> ah, handy tool that is
[05:13] <apokryphos> Strike4ce: with what?
[05:13] <manveru> Strike4ce: i guess you just have to click on restore?
[05:14] <Strike4ce> apokryphos I edited my Xorg.conf file and now Im in recovery mode. I need to reedit
[05:15] <apokryphos> Strike4ce: I'd recommend just doing the manually-guided dpkg-reconfigure
[05:15] <manveru> yeap...
[05:15] <Strike4ce> How?
[05:16] <manveru> try 'sudo dexconf'
[05:16] <apokryphos> Strike4ce: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:17] <Strike4ce> I have an ati driver. Will I have to go back into it and change the ati driver to fglrx? I know that in reconfigure xorg it doesnt work right
[05:17] <manveru> btw, the tray-icon for Konserv sucks....
[05:17] <Strike4ce> Can I edit my xorg.conf file again from cli?
[05:17] <manveru> sure
[05:17] <manveru> you can do everything from cli...
[05:18] <Strike4ce> what is the command?
[05:18] <manveru> even drawing images...
[05:18] <manveru> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:27] <Strike4ce> What is the command to start it back up?
[05:28] <Strike4ce> manveru?
[05:28] <musik> im trying to download the edubuntu iso...and i have the ubuntu breezy install cd......is there any way to get edubuntu iso in a quicker way????/
[05:28] <manveru> Strike4ce: starting what?
[05:28] <Strike4ce> starting up kubuntu from the cli screen
[05:28] <manveru> musik: you can install edubuntu right away
[05:29] <manveru> Strike4ce: you are in recovery-mode?
[05:29] <Strike4ce> I edited the xorg.conf file and corrected the mistake
[05:29] <Strike4ce> yes
[05:29] <Strike4ce> is it startx?
[05:29] <manveru> Strike4ce: or did you start normal and you are only in console?
[05:29] <manveru> try 'kdm'
[05:29] <musik> manveru: i wanna do a fresh install.....right now im on kubuntu...and get an edubuntu bootsplash..
[05:30] <Strike4ce> thanx manveru
[05:30] <Strike4ce> You gonna be here for a while?
[05:30] <manveru> yeap
[05:30] <Strike4ce> I need some more help
[05:30] <musik> any other way????/
[05:30] <manveru> musik: i don't think there's a faster way - maybe via jigdo
[05:31] <manveru> musik: but then you would need your old iso in jigdo as well
[05:31] <musik> manveru: what is jigdo? plz explain??
[05:31] <musik> old iso??
[05:31] <Strike4ce> I have a dell inspiron 8600 laptop with ati mobility radeon 9600 pro turbo 128mb, with 15.4 inch LCD monitor the resolution is 1280x800, but kubuntu will only go as high as 1280x768.
[05:31] <manveru> musik: jigdo is a little app wich helps you getting your cds faster
[05:32] <musik> manveru: how? can i use it right now to get edubuntu faster? how?
[05:32] <Strike4ce> In other words when I am in kubuntu the image does'nt fill the entire screen. I have a small black space all the way around.
[05:32] <manveru> musik: i'm not even sure it works with ubuntus - did use it for debian so far
[05:32] <Strike4ce> manveru you know anything about fixing that?
[05:32] <kkathman> Greetings all :)
[05:32] <manveru> Strike4ce: maybe configuring your xorg.conf?
[05:33] <manveru> hey kkathman :)
[05:33] <kkathman> howdy manveru  :)
[05:33] <manveru> Strike4ce: but maybe the #xorg guys can help you a bit more
[05:33] <musik> what is down speed & upspeed?
[05:33] <manveru> musik: down is to your computer, up is from your computer
[05:34] <manveru> musik: common names in the filesharing-area
[05:34] <musik> manveru: what gets up FROm my computer when im downloading something?
[05:34] <manveru> musik: guess you use torrent
[05:35] <manveru> musik: you get your files from others, in exchange you provide the files you downloaded to others
[05:35] <musik> yup ktorrent......
[05:35] <manveru> this is so that everyone can go up in speed the more people download a file
[05:35] <manveru> not the other way round
[05:36] <manveru> some people do only uploading - these are called seeds
[05:45] <musik> manveru: ive put ubuntu cd into drive....and i guess im downloading something with jigdo..but where is the iso getting stored on my pc....how do i know this?
[05:46] <Mez> musik - if you're using the CD - it doesnt need to use jigdo
[05:47] <Mez> it'll be installing and getting the latest stuff
[05:47] <musik> huh? im confused!
[05:48] <spike> hi there
[05:48] <musik> Mez: im using ubuntu cd with jigdo for edubuntu iso.........right now i think its scanning the ubuntu cd in my drive.....
[05:48] <spike> can anybody help me with konqueror? I set the view to mulitcolumn, but anytime I reopen that settings arent kept
[05:49] <icewt> spike: settings -> save view profile
[05:49] <spike> icewt: did that
[05:49] <spike> icewt: it saves  it as "Kubuntu File Manager"
[05:51] <icewt> hm.. it should work then. there are some places where it doesn't work for me either though
[06:07] <PanBlueCoalition> is it possible to select only the packages i want during installation?
[06:10] <_ganymed> hallo
[06:10] <_ganymed> can i uninstall exim4 together with ubuntu-minimal without problems?
[06:12] <manveru> why want you uninstall exim4?
[06:13] <Strike4ce> !855resolution
[06:13] <ubotu> I don't know, Strike4ce
[06:13] <PanBlueCoalition> is it possible to select only the packages i want during installation?
[06:13] <manveru> PanBlueCoalition: maybe?
[06:14] <manveru> PanBlueCoalition: since you install kubuntu, you want kde, right?
[06:14] <PanBlueCoalition> yes. but i don't want certain stuff like openoffice etc.
[06:14] <manveru> PanBlueCoalition: i see, i've got the installer not in mind anymore, but i think it will be possible
[06:15] <manveru> PanBlueCoalition: otherwise you can uninstall it afterwards
[06:15] <PanBlueCoalition> manveru: i can't seem to. using aptitute.
[06:16] <manveru> just say 'sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org'
[06:16] <_ganymed> because at start-up i have problems starting the MTA...
[06:16] <manveru> _ganymed: you might want to reconfigure your exim4
[06:17] <manveru> Strike4ce: did you get help in #xorg ?
[06:17] <manveru> _ganymed: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4'
[06:18] <Strike4ce> manveru they cant help
[06:18] <_ganymed> i have. doesn't work....
[06:18] <Strike4ce> smart asses there
[06:18] <manveru> well, if they can't... i'm just being helpless
[06:19] <manveru> _ganymed: what is the problem on startup?
[06:20] <zer0time> hi all
[06:20] <kkathman> hello zer0time :)
[06:21] <manveru> PanBlueCoalition: is that working?
[06:21] <zer0time> I got 2 internet devices ra0 and eth0, ra0 is the one receiving internet traffic, eth0 and my xbox are connected with a crossed cable, and in windows, I share my conection for the xbox to go online, but under linux, I wonder if its possible, I tried firestarter app, not much results, please help
[06:21] <_ganymed> just needs endless time. before installing dhcp3 it told me that it couldn't start the dhcp server, but this seems to be fixed now
[06:22] <manveru> _ganymed: do you have a dhcp-server?
[06:22] <manveru> _ganymed: like a switch or another computer
[06:23] <PanBlueCoalition> manveru: haven't tried yet. i reverted to my old distro.
[06:23] <_ganymed> manveru: it is installed, but only because ubuntu-minimal requires it. otherwise i would like to get rid of it (and of some other stuff).
[06:23] <zer0time> kkathman: ics under linux, 
[06:23] <manveru> _ganymed: you need a MTA....
[06:24] <kkathman> zer0time: ??
[06:24] <_ganymed> actually, i don't think so. i am not familiar with an mta...
[06:24] <manveru> _ganymed: but if you had the problem with dhcp, i think that your dhclient looks for a dhcp-server in the network, this takes forever if you don't disable it
[06:24] <zer0time> can you read what I wrote before?
[06:24] <zer0time> kkathman: kkathman  I got 2 internet devices ra0 and eth0, ra0 is the one receiving internet traffic, eth0 and my xbox are connected with a crossed cable, and in windows, I share my conection for the xbox to go online, but under linux, I wonder if its possible, I tried firestarter app, not much results, please help
[06:25] <zer0time> when I enable ics in firestarter, it gives me an error
[06:25] <zer0time> any clue?
[06:26] <manveru> sorry, gotta go... somebody would help _ganymed ?
[06:26] <kkathman> zer0time: well, ICS and Firestarter (which is just a front end for iptables) is about all thats possible I think.
[06:26] <zer0time> not me, must be helped as well
[06:26] <_ganymed> thanks very much
[06:26] <_ganymed> i gotta go too. cu all
[06:26] <_ganymed> great channel 
[06:26] <kkathman> zer0time: I dont know why you cant network everything and let your router do the work?
[06:27] <kkathman> zer0time: I am assuming that you are networking now?
[06:27] <zer0time> well, the ftp transfers are faster if the roter is not in the middle
[06:27] <zer0time> and since I ftp my xbox, and do really big transfers
[06:27] <zer0time> need this setup
[06:28] <kkathman> zer0time: so instead you want to take up cycles on your Linux box doing firewalling then
[06:28] <kkathman> and if thats the case, firestarter/iptables is the right approach
[06:28] <zer0time> yeah, but how?
[06:29] <kkathman> the router is cleaner and has a hard firewall too...just my 2cents
[06:29] <kkathman> zer0time: you'll need to basically configure your linux box as a router, and then NAT translate on the backend (but Im not a iptables expert)
[06:30] <kkathman> Im not so sure that you'll get the performance you want
[06:32] <zer0time> kkathman: dhcp server wont start
[06:32] <zer0time> dont know why
[06:32] <snikker> hi, i must remove "lsb-base 3.0" and reinstall "lsb-base 2.0", how can i do?
[06:33] <snikker> no ones?
[06:34] <zer0time> sudo apt-get remove lsb-base // sudo apt-get update // sudo apt-get install lsb-base
[06:35] <snikker> zer0time: ok, i try...
[06:37] <snikker> zer0time: it say to me that fore remove lsb-base i must remove 425 packages :-(  No, another way?
[06:37] <kkathman> zer0time: sorry had a phone call
[06:38] <kkathman> zer0time: you have a connection to the net right? No problems there?
[06:41] <kkathman> zer0time: You might try reading this...its for RedHat, but the principles should be the same in Breezy: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-guide/s1-dhcp-configuring-server.html
[06:41] <kkathman> zer0time: or this might be better: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/DHCP-Server.html
[06:42] <Strike1> damn I have no idead
[06:42] <Strike1> Idea how to fix this issue?
[06:42] <kkathman> brb
[06:43] <Strike1> My display is capable of 1280x800, but kubuntu will only show 1280x768
[06:43] <CyberMad> how to find the version of glibc that we use in Linux? i'm using Kubuntu..
[06:43] <kkathman> Strike1: you will need to do the configuration of your xorg.conf
[06:44] <Strike1> kkathman that doesnt work.
[06:44] <Strike1> I have tried that
[06:44] <kkathman> Strike1: or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-corg
[06:44] <Strike1> In the xorg.conf it even shows 1280x800
[06:45] <Strike1> reconfigure screws everything up
[06:45] <kkathman> Probably a driver then..not compatible with linux
[06:45] <kkathman> check with your manufacturer
[06:45] <Strike1> I have an ati mob radeon 9600 card
[06:45] <kkathman> ATI and Linux dont get along often
[06:46] <Strike4ce> Well my 3d is working. I have a good image, but it doesnt fill the screen. Its just short 12
[06:46] <Strike4ce> 1280x768
[06:47] <Strike4ce> needs to be 1280x800
[06:47] <Strike4ce> Windows works
[06:47] <kkathman> well Im sure the driver was written for windows :)
[06:48] <Strike4ce> apparently, but xorg should have adapted their driver to fit a standard 1280x800 screen
[06:48] <Strike4ce> not 1280x768. Wtf???
[06:49] <kkathman> well, no, Xorg doesnt really adapt a driver
[06:49] <kkathman> Xorg just uses what's available
[06:50] <kkathman> it just sounds like there isnt a driver available for that video card...have you checked with ATI support?
[06:50] <Strike4ce> Can I replace the xorg driver with the ati rpm?
[06:51] <kkathman> uhmm... I think some people say you can with something called "alien" but I dont know anything about it
[06:51] <kkathman> is the source available?
[06:52] <Strike4ce> kkathman yes alien and its on the official ati site
[06:52] <Strike4ce> So I should uninstall the xorg driver?
[06:52] <kkathman> if they are providing an open source driver, chances are the source is available...but maybe not, ATI is a little hostile to the LInux world
[06:52] <Strike4ce> and then try the new driver
[06:53] <kkathman> Have you spoken to an ATI technician?
[06:53] <Strike4ce> kkathman is that going to cost me?
[06:53] <Strike4ce> lol
[06:53] <kkathman> no clue
[06:53] <kkathman> usually not
[06:53] <kkathman> but I cant say for sure
[06:54] <kkathman> did you buy the computer from a manufacturer or make it yourself?
[06:56] <Strike4ce> its a dell inspiron 8600 laptop
[06:56] <kkathman> ok, well I assume it came with windows :)
[06:57] <kkathman> Dell has good LInux technicians, but Im not sure they'll help you much unless they installed it (not likely)
[06:57] <kkathman> But its worth a shot... believe it or not, I've actually had Dell techs help me on stuff when they didnt have to.
[06:58] <ubuntu> Hello
[06:59] <ubuntu> ???
[06:59] <kkathman> hello
[07:00] <ubuntu> Thats my first trip to the Internet with Kubuntu today and i must say, Kubuntu is very good!
[07:00] <kkathman> Glad you like it..welcome to the family :)
[07:01] <ubuntu> Are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[07:02] <ubuntu> ??
[07:04] <kkathman> most of everyone in this channel I would believe are using Kubuntu
[07:04] <kkathman> including myself
[07:06] <ubuntu> Aha.
[07:06] <Tm_T> Kubuntu <3
[07:06] <kkathman> we are here to help if you have difficulties...any problems so far, ubuntu ?
[07:06] <kkathman> Tm_T: o/  good day my friend:)
[07:06] <Tm_T> hullo
[07:07] <ubuntu> No, thanks. Im just trying it from CD.
[07:07] <musik> can anyone here guide me on using jigdo?? on downloading cd iso with jigdo??
[07:07] <kkathman> ubuntu so you are using just the live CD then?
[07:08] <ubuntu> The problem here in Germany is that most of my friends don't like Linux and they say, Linux is not so good as Windows...
[07:08] <nceterval> I just installed Kubuntu 5.10, what packages do I need to be able to compile software
[07:08] <musik> im using jigdo to download an iso.....but where is the iso getting saved???
[07:08] <ubuntu> I think Linux is much better
[07:09] <kkathman> ubuntu well they are different operating systems, of course, and both have advantages and disadvantages
[07:09] <CyberMad> how do i install mysql-devel package from kubuntu by online?
[07:09] <tackat> nceterval: depends on the software
[07:09] <musik> nceterval: build-essential, for kde apps u need kde devel packages too...
[07:09] <kkathman> CyberMad: try installing Xampp
[07:09] <kkathman> CyberMad: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[07:09] <nceterval> musik: I think build-essential is what I was looking for, thank you.
[07:10] <kkathman> CyberMad: Thats an all in one apache, PHP and MySQL
[07:10] <musik> nceterval: welcome:)
[07:10] <kkathman> CyberMad: but if you just want the mysql-dev,  you probably need to sudo apt-get install libmysqlclient14-dev  or something like that
[07:10] <CyberMad> CyberMad ah :) i ever use xampp before in windows and linux too :) it's nice, but does it ok use mysql (from xampp) with freeradius?
[07:11] <kkathman> do an apt-cache search libmysql  to get the exact package name, but thats close
[07:12] <kkathman> CyberMad: cant speak to the freeradius, but I use Xampp exclusively...easiest and most reliable way to get that envirornment in my book
[07:12] <ubuntu> A question: Am I able to install Ubuntu/Kubuntu on my HD with a normal Windows partition? I had problems with this.
[07:12] <kkathman> ubuntu: you can, yes, but there's alot to it...its complicated and its dangerous to an extent...if you try, be sure to back up everything!
[07:13] <kkathman> ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[07:13] <ubuntu> But why is it on a ext2 partition not so strenght?
[07:14] <CyberMad> kkathman thanks :)
[07:14] <kkathman> CyberMad: no prob
[07:14] <kkathman> ubuntu: cuz thats the way it is :)
[07:22] <Strike4ce> How do i get this to go directly to my desktop? sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-old
[07:23] <kkathman> what do you mean "go directly to your desktop" ?
[07:23] <kkathman> thats a copy command
[07:23] <Strike4ce> I want it to copy to desktop
[07:24] <kkathman> you want to see the contents of the xorg.conf file?
[07:24] <icewt> cp /etc/X11/corg.conf ~/Desktop ?
[07:24] <kkathman> ?
[07:24] <icewt> xorg.conf
[07:24] <Strike4ce> no, I want to make a backup copy so I can use it later if I need it
[07:24] <kkathman> whats wrong with your original command?
[07:24] <kkathman> thats the right one
[07:24] <Strike4ce> How do I find it? I dont know how
[07:25] <kkathman> find it?  It will be in /etc/X11
[07:25] <kkathman> navigate to it
[07:25] <kkathman> cd
[07:25] <kkathman> cd /etc/X11
[07:25] <kkathman> ls -l
[07:25] <kkathman> ?????
[07:26] <Strike4ce> what is ls -1?
[07:26] <Strike4ce> what does that mean?
[07:26] <kkathman> the equivalent of the dir in DOS
[07:26] <icewt> man ls
[07:26] <kkathman> lists the files in a directory, with a long listing
[07:26] <Strike4ce> ok so it will be called /etc/X11/xorg.conf-old
[07:26] <kkathman> if you just want a list, just type ls
[07:26] <kkathman> yes
[07:27] <Strike4ce> ls gives all the files?
[07:27] <mariux> how can i set konquerors timeout?
[07:27] <kkathman> Strike4ce: all of the regular files, yes
[07:27] <Strike4ce> so X11 will be there?
[07:27] <kkathman> Strike4ce:  if you want the system files, add an "a'....like  ls -la
[07:27] <kkathman> X11 is a directory
[07:28] <kkathman> so you navigate to the directory with "cd (change directory)"   cd /etc/X11
[07:28] <kkathman> that locates you to that directory level
[07:28] <kkathman> then ls -l  will show you all the files in that directory
[07:29] <kkathman> or, use konqeror :)
[07:29] <kkathman> haha
[07:29] <kkathman> howdy nalioth  :)
[07:29] <nalioth> kkathman: howdy professor
[07:29] <kkathman> nalioth: Im not a prof anymore...you took my hat away last night :)
[07:30] <kkathman> Im just a dweebie post grad I think
[07:30] <kkathman> HIya tvo :)
[07:30] <nalioth> kkathman: only cuz ya interupted me on my favorite activity
[07:31] <kkathman> nalioth: well, I will know better next time...sorry bout that
[07:31] <nalioth> kkathman: ya get your cronjob functioning, you program developer you?
[07:31] <kkathman> I suppose...will know Friday
[07:31] <tvo> yo kkathman :)
[07:32] <nalioth> kkathman: does it work when you run konvkill in terminal?
[07:32] <kkathman> yes
[07:33] <kkathman> I appreciated that #!bin/bash tidbit...that really sealed the deal :)
[07:36] <nalioth> so now we just need to get you sorted on "alias" and i can retire?
[07:36] <Strike4ce> kkathman if i have a prolem with xorg.conf how do I start up the backup copy?
[07:37] <Strike4ce> from cli
[07:38] <nalioth> Strike4ce: a simple copy and rename of your backup and a X restart should suffice
[07:38] <kkathman> Strike4ce: remove the new, bad one, then copy the old back
[07:39] <indro> hi
[07:39] <Strike4ce> ok
[07:39] <kkathman> hello indro :)
[07:39] <indro> how i can open non-kde apps with katapult? is that possible?
[07:39] <qos> hey guys ...
[07:39] <nalioth> i wouldn't rename tha backup, it the backup works, i'd copy and rename the copy
[07:39] <kkathman> hi qos :)
[07:39] <nalioth> indro: same way you open kde apps
[07:39] <indro> hi kkathman :)
[07:40] <kkathman> nalioth: yah delete the conf file and cp the old
[07:41] <qos> has anybody tested krfb? i connecting from windows with ultravnc client to my kubuntu host, but the connection is simply bad.
[07:41] <kkathman> nalioth:  in his case:   rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf    then  cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-old /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:42] <kkathman> qos I have not, sorry
[07:42] <nalioth> kkathman: however it works
[07:42] <tvo> qos: I used it once, connection was reliable, but slow (but it was over the internet so that was to be expected)
[07:43] <Strike4ce> what is the command to delete?
[07:43] <mariux> rm
[07:43] <qos> tvo, i am testing over lan ... speed should be fine ;)
[07:43] <Strike4ce> so rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[07:44] <tvo> qos: yeah, can't help you then I guess :(
[07:44] <Strike4ce> ok what Im wanting to do is install the ati rpm driver. I will use alien then, should I uninstall the xorg driver or force insti the ATI driver?
[07:44] <Strike4ce> force install
[07:45] <nalioth> Strike4ce: what kkathman posted will work
[07:45] <Strike4ce> ok you have any knowledge on the ATI scheme?
[07:45] <indro> nolioth, ah yes you are right, i have tried with skype but that is not open source maybe because that it dont work... firefox also not work because it want open Firefox Central bookmark but i dont have this bookmark under konqueror, how i can start firefox with kapatult?
[07:46] <Strike4ce> !ati
[07:46] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[07:46] <qos> no problem, which remote server do you use? i was thinking about vnc4server ...
[07:46] <Strike4ce> already using that one
[07:46] <Strike4ce> I have the xorg driver currently installed. I want to install the Driver from the ATI website.
[07:47] <Strike4ce> Do i need to uninstall the xorg driver and then install the officialati driver or can I force install?
[07:48] <kkathman> Strike4ce: I dunno if there is a conflict between the two being installed at the same time. Again I'd have to refer you to the ATI folks :(
[07:49] <kkathman> off hand, I'd say its not a great idea to have both..but I cant say for sure
[07:49] <Strike4ce> I dont want them installed at the same time
[07:49] <indro> nalioth?
[07:49] <Strike4ce> I want the official ATI driver installed I currently have the xorg driver. SHould I remove it or force install the ATI driver?
[07:49] <nalioth> indro: katapult should open anything you ask it to. perhaps it's the way you ask
[07:50] <nalioth> Strike4ce: do either one, you can always go back to your backed up xorg.conf
[07:50] <Strike4ce> ok
[07:50] <indro> i did Alt + Space, then type firefox
[07:50] <nalioth> Strike4ce: your machine is not gonna explode
[07:50] <Strike4ce> lol thanx for the reassurance This is my baby keeps my sanity when Im away from home
[07:51] <indro> can you try that? then you see what i mean..
[07:51] <Strike4ce> im on my desktop its the abused redheaded stepchild
[07:51] <tvo> indro: it's a known problem that you can't choose between different matches in katapult
[07:51] <Strike4ce> My laptop is the spoiled brat
[07:51] <Strike4ce> My wife hates the both LOL
[07:51] <indro> two, then it exist no way to start firefox with katapult?
[07:51] <Strike4ce> Jealous bitch! LMAO!
[07:52] <Strike4ce> what is the command for force install?
[07:52] <indro> two, do you know where is that firefox central bookmark? i think it work when i delete it but dont know where is it (dont find it under konqueror - bookmark)
[07:52] <nalioth> indro: patience, i dont run breezy on this machine, and am consulting another
[07:52] <nalioth> indro: your firefox bookmarks are in ~/.firefox or ~/.mozilla-firefox
[07:53] <indro> nalioth, its not a firefox bookmark, it open konqueror...
[07:54] <nalioth> indro: then look in ~/.kde
[07:54] <tvo> indro: if you open it through katapult it's opened in the default browser
[07:54] <tvo> by default, that's konqueror, also for firefox bookmarks
[07:55] <tvo> alt+f2, type katapult and press enter :)
[07:55] <kkathman> nalioth: Im finding less and less to excited about Katapult
[07:55] <kkathman> I'd rather just use alt-F2
[07:55] <nalioth> kkathman: well, it's quite a rough beta
[07:55] <kkathman> nalioth: Oh no....Im sure its ok...just that I dont find it usefull
[07:55] <Knowerrors> How do you review the results of synaptic installing packages... the log or such of that?
[07:57] <nalioth> this is vexin the snot outta me
[07:57] <indro> two, yeah it was a firefox bookmark, deleted the bookmark, restart katapult, now it work, thanks :)
[07:57] <kkathman> nalioth: katapult?
[07:57] <Linuxmaster> Hello
[07:57] <nalioth> kkathman: yes, professor
[07:57] <kkathman> wow Ubuntu you have been promoted to Linuxmaster!
[07:58] <kkathman> nalioth: had you started katapult before?
[07:58] <Linuxmaster> Is there any way to change the KDE Desktop on the Kubuntu live-CD with the XPDE Desktop?
[07:58] <Linuxmaster> Yes, I've changed my name
[07:59] <nalioth> Linuxmaster: you'll have to follow the steps at xpde.com, but be careful, you'll have to modify the steps, cuz theirs wont work as written
[07:59] <kkathman> Linuxmaster: why do you want to use XPDE?
[08:00] <nalioth> whats the magic key combo to bring up katapult?
[08:00] <kkathman> and I doubt that you can change anything on the live CD :)
[08:00] <nalioth> kkathman: sure ya can
[08:00] <kkathman> nalioth: alt-f2 then type katapult
[08:00] <kkathman> nalioth: really??? how can you do that when you are running off the CD?
[08:01] <nalioth> kkathman: no pissed at you, but that is so redundant. why would i launch a launcher for a launcher?
[08:01] <nalioth> kkathman: you can install anything you like on the livecd
[08:01] <nalioth> kkathman: kind of useless if you ask me (all that work wasted when you power down)
[08:01] <Linuxmaster> The XPDE Desktop is a bit nicer than the KDE Desktop
[08:01] <kkathman> nalioth: the idea is that you need only start katapult once that way..any time after that its available through alt-space
[08:02] <kkathman> Linuxmaster: To each his own but I doubt that...you've just brought up Kubuntu...how do you know?
[08:02] <kkathman> Linuxmaster: KDE is INFINITELY configurable
[08:03] <kkathman> nalioth: so you basically type alt-f2, type katapult....thereafter its just alt-space and katapult comes up
[08:03] <nalioth> well now i think even less of katapult
[08:04] <Linuxmaster> I said, that's the first trip Online with Kubuntu.
[08:04] <kkathman> yes, like I said..I'll just put an icon on the desktop or on my tray for those things I need quickly, then alt-f2 and do anything else
[08:05] <kkathman> hehe
[08:07] <nalioth> kkathman: ya never lost it, bubba, just got whacked with it for interupting my ROTS
[08:08] <nalioth> kkathman: grr! no, i'm carryin on more than is necessary
[08:09] <kkathman> nalioth: that #!bin/bash thing is that particular to ubuntu, cuz my Linux Administrator guide didnt mention it.
[08:09] <Linuxmaster> Makes it sence to install Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Edubuntu on an extern Hard Disk?
[08:09] <nalioth> kkathman: it is NOT particular to ubuntu
[08:09] <nalioth> Linuxmaster: it will not work on an external
[08:09] <kkathman> yah yah yah...well if I have a resource here I dont go to Google, and my LInux admin guide has a whole section on writing shell scripts, but never mentioned #!bin/bash
[08:10] <nalioth> kkathman: then it is lacking critical information
[08:10] <kkathman> in fact it just said you can write the command and save it, chmod +X and yer done
[08:10] <Blissex> kkathman: well, I can confirm that is a very common UNIX thing.
[08:10] <kkathman> yah well its a good thing ta know :)
[08:10] <kkathman> and I learned it the hard way....head still hurt from being smacked
[08:10] <Linuxmaster> nalioth: Is this true? Where's the problem? At the Ubuntuwebsite they say, you are able to install it on a USB Stick.
[08:10] <Blissex> kkathman: it may not be in the shell scripting chapter. Because it can be used for any scripting language. And it is a kernel feature, not a shell feature.
[08:11] <nalioth> Linuxmaster: "IF" your machine supports booting from a USB stick
[08:11] <nalioth> Linuxmaster: to my knowledge, lilo, grub and yaboot dont play well with external hard drives
[08:11] <kkathman> Blissex: ahhh ok..perhaps thats it...the chapter I was reading particularly put a linux command on line 1 and an echo command on line two, had you save it and the allegedly execute it from the command line
[08:12] <Linuxmaster> Aha, So I won't buy an external Hard Disk for Linux :-)
[08:12] <kkathman> but then I didnt read alot further blah blah  shame on me
[08:12] <nalioth> Linuxmaster: sure you can, use it for storage
[08:15] <kkathman> hmm booting from a USB..interesting concept...I think IBM does that on some of their machines in fact
[08:16] <nalioth> kkathman: most newer vintage machines support it
[08:17] <kkathman> right...but I believe you have to include it when you set up things in the BIOS...i.e. the sequence of bootable devices
[08:20] <nalioth> kkathman: up on your alias?
[08:22] <kkathman> The TV show?
[08:23] <nalioth> kkathman: the alias in you
[08:24] <slicslak> what is the package name for the win32 codecs for mplayer?
[08:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell slicslak about w32deb
[08:25] <Blissex> Linuxmaster: USB external hard drives are not very reliable. But Firewire ones are much better, especially if they have Oxford Semiconductor chipsets
[08:25] <kkathman> nalioth: you mean aliasing a long command using a smal one kind of thing right?
[08:26] <kkathman> The only time I would use an ext USB drive is for backup or recovery purposes
[08:26] <nalioth> kkathman: yes, it's quite addictive
[08:26] <kkathman> but others may disagree
[08:26] <kkathman> yah hehe
[08:27] <kkathman> the only one I have is "gh"
[08:31] <Cenuij> heyas, could someone point me at a mirros where i can grab some packages?
[08:31] <Cenuij> mirror*
[08:31] <kkathman> oh wait I forgot I have ulb too.  gh = go home = cd /~  and ulb is cd /usr/local/bin :)
[08:32] <nalioth> kkathman: did you know "cd" takes you home?
[08:32] <kkathman> yah
[08:33] <kkathman> if you arent at root I guess
[08:34] <kkathman> but I can see if you are a big command line guru using pipes and the like, aliases would be much more useful
[08:35] <nalioth> kkathman: aliases are supposed to save you typing
[08:36] <kkathman> right exactly..thats why I say that a command line guru that uses all those things could really make use of aliases :)
[08:36] <nalioth> for instance, "alias build=./cofigure && make && sudo checkinstall" get me 3 commands and a built deb for 5 letters and an enter key
[08:36] <kkathman> excellent example :)
[08:45] <tvo> does anyone know how I can force konsole to reload .bash_profile?
[08:49] <slicslak> nalioth, thanks
[08:49] <nalioth> tvo: "source bash_profile"
[08:50] <tvo> nalioth: cool, thanks
[08:50] <nalioth> tvo: any text rc file(s) you want to be immediately taken notice of you can "source"
[08:57] <_master> hi someone can help me to configure samba
[08:57] <_master> i use kubuntu 5.10
[08:58] <_master> and when i put the adm pwd doesn't work why
[09:06] <kkathman> !samba
[09:06] <ubotu> samba is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:07] <indro> hi
[09:07] <indro> how i can hibernate from kde?
[09:10] <indro> ?
[09:10] <tvo> indro: laptop or desktop?
[09:10] <indro> laptop
[09:11] <tvo> then I don't know, there should be a klaptopdaemon which handles hibernation I think
[09:12] <tvo> though I have no laptop, so I'm just guessing
[09:14] <indro> its there, thx n'cya :)
[09:26] <bascht> Hey. Does anyone know why the <Alt>+<F2> Shortcut is broken in Kubuntu 5.10's Gnome-Installation?
[09:29] <kkathman> bascht: if you installed just kubuntu, you dont have gnome
[09:30] <kkathman> alt-f2 works fine in KDE tho
[09:31] <bascht> kthathman: It works fine in KDE, I know. But I also installed the Gnome-Desktop-Package. :)
[09:36] <nyarltep> sup fellas
[09:37] <nyarltep> i am happy un
[09:37] <nyarltep> ubuntu recognized my usb wifi device
[09:37] <at1as> 
[09:37] <nyarltep> i switch from a live cd to a real intall
[09:38] <nyarltep> it loads webpages faster than my recent xp install
[09:39] <matrix> hi
[09:40] <matrix> is kaffeine's dvb tv part broken?
[09:40] <icewt> matrix: works fine for me
[09:40] <icewt> watching tv at the moment
[09:40] <matrix> icewt: i can scan channels but dont get all. one stations seems to be out of range.
[09:41] <matrix> so scanning runs infinite
[09:41] <matrix> i do stop scanning and add the rest of the channels
[09:41] <matrix> after klicking done kaffeine just hangs up
[09:42] <matrix> with the next kaffeine start up i can see the channels i found but they are greyed out
[09:42] <icewt> hmm.. strange. i guess it depends on the defined scanning range
[09:42] <icewt> ah, well, that's because you don't have kaffeine-xine installed
[09:42] <icewt> install it and select settings -> player engine -> xine
[09:44] <matrix> icewt thx allot
[09:44] <matrix> playback is choppy
[09:45] <icewt> you could look at settings -> xine engine parameters -> video -> and try different "Videodrivers". xv should be the best in most cases
[09:46] <matrix> just chose xv
[09:46] <matrix> still copy
[09:46] <matrix> sound is fluently
[09:46] <matrix> pictures complete no artefacts but half frame rate feeling
[09:48] <icewt> i got no sound until i installed gstreamer0.8-plugins - not sure what was needed of the packages it included though
[09:48] <icewt> but that's pretty much all i have done
[09:48] <matrix> sound is fine
[09:48] <matrix> when i choose nv it says can't init new Video Driver xv - using auto
[09:48] <matrix> hm
[09:49] <icewt> try player -> video -> turn deinterlacing off
[09:50] <icewt> i must say though that kaffeine takes over twice as much resources as vdr+gxine combination
[09:50] <icewt> for some reason kaffeine is a real resource hog when watching dvb
[10:01] <laszlok> where would i report a bug for systemsettings?
[10:07] <fatbrain> How can I avoid having to type ./executable?
[10:07] <Dark^Jedi> Hi folks, are there packages for OpenTTD in Kubuntu anywhere?
[10:07] <fatbrain> I just want to typ "executable"
[10:08] <|mp|> hi - suddenly there is extreme cpu use on my system...
[10:08] <|mp|> like kded using 20-30% cpu
[10:08] <|mp|> even kmix using 12%
[10:08] <|mp|> any ideas what could be causing this?
[10:08] <qatsi> hi all !...im having trubbles with LimeWire install, it says i need to have java 1.4.2 or higher, i do have 1.4.2, and when i do ./runLime.sh it displays an error saying that i dont have a valid JRE...any idea ?
[10:08] <|mp|>  7313 root      19   0 43780  24m 3188 R 50.2  6.7  10:15.49 Xorg
[10:09] <laszlok> fatbrain: what are you trying to run?
[10:09] <fatbrain> It's a tool I just downloaded
[10:09] <qatsi> anyone with the java install ?
[10:09] <laszlok> fatbrain: If the executable if in the current folder, you have to type ./executable, but if its in your path then you can just type executable
[10:10] <fatbrain> ok, thanks
[10:10] <qatsi> uhmm, anyone knows what to do with the java during LimeWire install ?
[10:12] <Dark^Jedi> Let me just try again - Anyone know of any packages for OpenTTD for Kubuntu?
[10:13] <laszlok> qatsi: type in the terminal "java -version" without the quotes
[10:14] <frank23> qatsi: the java you have now is probably the gnu java which is not a complete implementation
[10:14] <frank23> !java
[10:14] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[10:14] <frank23> !javadeb
[10:14] <ubotu> I heard javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[10:15] <qatsi> frank23: ok, maybe thats it, should i install JRE ?
[10:15] <qatsi> laszlok: i have version 1.4.2
[10:15] <frank23> qatsi: what is the complete last line of java -version?
[10:16] <qatsi> frank23: version 4.0.2 20050808
[10:16] <frank23> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) ?
[10:17] <frank23> if you want the latest java go here http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf
[10:17] <qatsi> frank23: gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[10:17] <qatsi> frank23: yes, im already there, thanx :) nalioth managed to make me go there :p
[10:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> has anyone here successfully compiled the new ksmoothdock 3.6?
[10:17] <frank23> qatsi: ok
[10:18] <qatsi> should i download JRE or JSDK ?
[10:19] <laszlok> qatsiL SDK is the development kit
[10:19] <frank23> qatsi: jre is fine: java runtime environment
[10:19] <qatsi> laszlok frank23 thanx, ill donwload the jre :)
[10:20] <qatsi> brb
[10:25] <Strike4ce> How do I get into the command screen?
[10:25] <kkathman> Strike4ce: where are you now?
[10:25] <Strike4ce> lol I installed the official ati driver but there is a problem
[10:25] <slow-motion> n8
[10:26] <Strike4ce> screen is up but its all messed up
[10:26] <kkathman> Strike4ce: ok...so... try ctrl-alt-F1
[10:26] <kkathman> thats should take you to a console
[10:26] <kkathman> assuming you got to KDE :)
[10:27] <Strike4ce> I have the main page up and its blue but its all distorted
[10:27] <Strike4ce> I need to get out of it
[10:27] <kkathman> Strike4ce: so it looks like you got to KDE? Then hit ctrl-alt-F1 should take you to a console, if you can
[10:28] <Strike4ce> ok got it thanx
[10:29] <kkathman> great!
[10:30] <Strike4ce> I dont know what to do now?
[10:32] <matrix> re
[10:32] <matrix> so its now up and running, after i setup my fglrx driver
[10:32] <kkathman> Strike4ce: well you could go back to your working xorg.conf
[10:33] <Strike4ce> hmm maybe I need to uninstall the standard restricted modules
[10:33] <kkathman> Strike4ce: or try a different resolution
[10:33] <kkathman> was there something terribly wrong with the 1280 x 1024?
[10:33] <nalioth> VESA is always an option
[10:34] <kkathman> I prefer American Express myself, nalioth :)
[10:34] <nalioth> kkathman: ?
[10:35] <flixor> evening everybody 
[10:35] <kkathman> hey flixor  :)
[10:36] <flixor> hya kkathman 
[10:36] <kkathman> fedora is such a bloated install...I'd NEVER EVER use it again!
[10:36] <flixor> why did you use it in the firstplace kkathman :) 
[10:36] <kkathman> flixor: I was trying distros, like we all do :)
[10:36] <libben> do we?
[10:37] <libben> i just tried two
[10:37] <nalioth> y'all dont be so hard on folks, redhat IS the most famous linux distro
[10:37] <libben> red hat and debian
[10:37] <nalioth> i started with it many many years ago
[10:37] <libben> and then ubuntu and then kubuntu
[10:37] <Strike4ce> does gdm stop x?
[10:37] <flixor> ehm, well this is my first distro and i stick with it 
[10:37] <kkathman> flixor: I started with Red Hat 9 which was ok, but it didnt recognize some older hardware I had on some machines
[10:37] <flixor> kee, well everything is allmost good on this box 
[10:37] <libben> i used redhat 5.6 i think it was.
[10:37] <libben> then debian
[10:37] <flixor> except for my promise dma controller 
[10:38] <Strike4ce> How do I stop x?
[10:38] <flixor> wich i fix when i compiled the kernel 
[10:38] <kkathman> because of that I trired FC4 and it was just bloated
[10:38] <kkathman> then I tried, Mandrake, Libranet and finally Ubuntu
[10:38] <kkathman> LIbranet was pretty kewl, but they had too many broken packages :(
[10:38] <Strike4ce> Can anyone tell me how to stop x?
[10:39] <kkathman> libben: I almost tried debian but stumbled on Ubuntu first
[10:39] <libben> debian the only choice if u really wanna be a true linux user =) 
[10:40] <libben> and ubuntu/kubuntu falls under that to
[10:40] <kkathman> Strike4ce: try ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:40] <flixor> lol, well for me linux is linux they all got a / directory 
[10:40] <flixor> :)
[10:40] <kkathman> haha flixor  :)
[10:41] <nalioth> Strike4ce: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:41] <Mars> Hi I have problem I installed BitTornado (and BitTorrent) by apt-get but now i dont know how to run it
[10:41] <nalioth> kkathman: ctrl-alt-backspace boomerangs X
[10:41] <kkathman> nalioth: sorry
[10:41] <raphink> Mars: the programs begin with bt
[10:41] <raphink> bttrack, btdownload, btdownloadgui
[10:41] <raphink> etc.
[10:41] <nalioth> Mars: open a console and type "btdownloadcurses file.torrent" or install bittornado-gui and use it instead
[10:42] <kkathman> nalioth: I never know where Strike4ce is on a screen
[10:42] <raphink> or get qtorrent ;)
[10:42] <Jeevan> anyone know of any programs that can record microphone input from console?
[10:42] <kkathman> or use the bit torrent on the K menu :)
[10:42] <nalioth> kkathman: not ktorrent, i hope
[10:43] <kkathman> nalioth: the one thats under K-menu, Internet
[10:46] <Mars> Intresting my liquid weather theme is not updateing weather
[10:48] <kkathman> I was into superkaramba for a while, but it tends to eat CPU cycles and warms the chip :)
[10:49] <nalioth> Mars: sometimes my weather applet doesnt update, either (the panel one)
[10:49] <nalioth> kkathman: chip warming works well in the winter
[10:49] <icewt> it's good taking for "cool" screenshots but that's about it ;)
[10:52] <kkathman> nalioth: lol. My chip was much warmer than I like it.  I had to take the sides of and put an external fan on :(
[10:54] <Losdow> hi, i just installed the kubuntu desktop package from gnome, and restarted, the kde login screen came up but once i login the gnome-look returns. Theres a lot of new stash in my menus though. Do i need to disable gnome somehow? I switched to kdm in the installation.
[10:55] <foampeace> hello
[10:55] <nalioth> kkathman: Losdow in sessions, you choose "kde"
[10:55] <nalioth> Losdow: at the login screen
[10:55] <foampeace> hello
[10:56] <Losdow> ok ill try
[10:56] <foampeace> can someone tell me how kcrom works? does it do its own thing or is under control by the cron services?
[10:56] <foampeace> kcron
[10:56] <foampeace> i wonder if kde would change its name sounds like gayde
[10:56] <Strike4ce> howdo I start my old configuration?
[10:57] <LeeJunFan> w!ngchun
[10:57] <kkathman> Strike4ce: did you copy your old xorg.conf back?
[10:57] <kkathman> hey LeeJunFan  :)
[10:57] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: 
[10:57] <foampeace> so i was wondering about kcron...would kron just put them into cron services? i have cron execute xmms everyday
[10:57] <Losdow> nice! thanks for the help
[10:58] <foampeace> where would the cron info settings be shown on the filesystem
[10:58] <Strike4ce> yes
[10:58] <kkathman> foampeace: you can view them in kcron
[10:59] <foampeace> kkathman: ya i know, just wondering where the configuration isin the filesystem
[10:59] <kkathman> oh... hmm..no clue
[10:59] <Strike4ce> how do I start from the old xorg.conf file?
[11:00] <kkathman> foampeace: look under /etc  lots of cron stuff there
[11:00] <kkathman> Strike4ce: did you copy it back?
[11:00] <foampeace> kkathman: ya i thought to look there but saw nothing
[11:00] <Strike4ce> what do you mean?
[11:01] <Strike4ce> i probably need to uninstall the official ati driver
[11:01] <kkathman> Strike4ce: rm the old file, then cp the old
[11:01] <kkathman> oops
[11:02] <kkathman> Strike4ce:  you named your old file like xorg.conf-old right?
[11:02] <kkathman> remember copying that?
[11:02] <Strike4ce> yes
[11:02] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: so you like that? That little blurb I just typed in up there that seemed to make no sense?
[11:02] <kkathman> ok so... right now you have your current xorg.conf that isnt working right?
[11:03] <kkathman> LeeJunFan: its ok...I know you meant well :)
[11:03] <Strike4ce> yes kkathman
[11:03] <Strike4ce> its up
[11:03] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: well, that's because of active window follows mouse, I typed my damn root password in the wrong window :D hahah, nothing like giving your root away on IRC.
[11:03] <kkathman> Strike4ce: so... you need to rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf  (the one that doesnt work)
[11:04] <kkathman> Strike4ce: then cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-old /etc/X11/xorg.conf   (to use your backup)
[11:05] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: yeah :D well it WAS the passwd,for about 2 seconds after that.
[11:05] <kkathman> lol
[11:05] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: could be worse, I could have rm -rf /
[11:05] <LeeJunFan> or mkswap /dev/hda
[11:05] <kkathman> true that...or done a /msg nickserv identify in the channel
[11:05] <LeeJunFan> heheh.
[11:07] <LeeJunFan> I did that once, cd /tmp then rm -rf *, only I typoed on the cd and didn't pay attention to the error, left me in the last dir I was in (/), so I rm -rf'ed /, I noticed it right after I started but not before it wiped out /etc on a mailserver with about 5000 clients.
[11:07] <LeeJunFan> that was a fun night.
[11:08] <foampeace> anyone know where kcron stores its config files?
[11:09] <kkathman> lol LeeJunFan  thats one mistake you ONLY make once
[11:09] <foampeace> i need to learn cron
[11:09] <LeeJunFan> The system was of course pretty much a loss with plenty of files missing all over, but /var/spool/mail was spared, so I ripped the HD out of the primary mailserver and threw it in a standby and mounted /var/spool/mail off the hold HD :)
[11:09] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: you bet.
[11:09] <kkathman> foampeace: just use kcron..it works great
[11:09] <foampeace> it didnt really
[11:09] <kkathman> foampeace: why?? its great!!
[11:09] <foampeace> kkathman: it was supposed to wake me up with xmms
[11:10] <kkathman> you put in what you want to do and then set the times and the interface is very easy
[11:10] <kkathman> foampeace: was crond running on your system?
[11:10] <foampeace> 2 days in a row...the xmms wouldnt start to wake me up...how do you explain this to an employer if i had one heh
[11:11] <icewt> i think xmms has it's own alarm function (?)
[11:11] <kkathman> well personally I'd get an alarm clock that was battery operated :)
[11:11] <foampeace> well i didnt phone in because my cron daemon wasnt on...dont fire me
[11:12] <icewt> xmms-alarm
[11:12] <foampeace> icewt: ya that didnt work either
[11:12] <kkathman> hmm Im seeing a bigger problem here then
[11:13] <foampeace> di wonder if it has to do with the screensaver or a conflict with streamtuner...i put streamtuner on at night and the alarm to go off for the morning
[11:13] <foampeace> kkathman: does crond show as cron?
[11:13] <kkathman> yes that was a typo :)
[11:13] <kkathman> sorry bout that
[11:14] <foampeace> then its there
[11:14] <foampeace> can i test it for today?
[11:14] <kkathman> sure
[11:14] <kkathman> why not
[11:15] <Strike4ce> ok time for another reinstall
[11:15] <foampeace>  is this the way i execute it in kcron ?xmms audioslave.pls
[11:15] <foampeace> kron only does in 5 min intervals
[11:15] <kkathman> foampeace: so you wanna wake up at 7:58?
[11:16] <Strike4ce> what is the command to start kde?
[11:16] <foampeace> no matter..im just testing so i have to wait 5 mins to see if it works
[11:16] <kkathman> oh  haha... yah 5 mins
[11:18] <kkathman> Strike4ce: I think its kdeinit
[11:19] <foampeace> why does it sound like gayde
[11:19] <foampeace> how bout a new name
[11:20] <foampeace> lets think of a new one
[11:20] <foampeace> what does kde stand for
[11:20] <icewt> k desktop environment
[11:20] <foampeace> kkathman: xmms didnt go off
[11:21] <foampeace> i must not be doing it right
[11:21] <foampeace> does kcron have to be open?
[11:24] <foampeace> reading handbook
[11:25] <qos> hey guys ...
[11:26] <qos> i ve got two new kubuntu machines, one is my desktop one is my server... how can i easiliy work from my desktop with the GUI from the server?
[11:27] <kkathman> foampeace:  hmmm
[11:27] <kkathman> foampeace: no kcron shouldnt have to be open
[11:27] <kkathman> the cron process has to be running
[11:28] <izut> qos: You can use Xnest and open a remote desktop there.
[11:28] <qos> how to do this?
[11:29] <kkathman> foampeace: may be a dumb question but you DID save the crontab right?
[11:30] <kkathman> i.e. you went to File --> Save ?
[11:30] <foampeace> cront didnt go off again hmmm
[11:30] <foampeace> i saved yes
[11:31] <foampeace> maybe i have to run as root
[11:31] <foampeace> how can user edit etc files
[11:32] <kkathman> no you dont have to run as root
[11:32] <kkathman> there are some suggestions in the help
[11:33] <nalioth> qos: use xforwarding
[11:33] <nalioth> izut: why xnest? xforwarding is built into the xserver
[11:34] <izut> nalioth: Dunno xforwarding.
[11:34] <nalioth> izut: it's a basic feature of X
[11:34] <nalioth> no extra proggys needed
[11:35] <izut> You mean: export DISPLAY=$REMOTE_HOST:0 ?
[11:36] <foampeace> kkathman: ya the help doesnt say much
[11:36] <nalioth> izut: i mean enable xforwrding in your ssh config on teh server and start an x session over ssh from the client
[11:36] <kkathman> foampeace: ok...well Im stumped then...cuz it should work
[11:36] <izut> nalioth: I thought he wanted both desktops at same time like rdesktop or vnc...
[11:37] <foampeace> kkathman: im trying without the run every day option
[11:37] <nalioth> qos appears asleep at this time, anyway
[11:42] <foampeace> the kcron command works, but it does not execute at the scheduled time
[11:42] <foampeace> maybe it has to do with the cron daemon itself
[11:44] <zoldar> hello, does anybody know, from where can I get msttcorefonts package? I doesn't seem to be available even in universe/multiverse ...?
[11:45] <nalioth> !info msttcorefonts
[11:45] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[11:45] <nalioth> zoldar: look again, please
[11:45] <zoldar> ok thanks
[11:45] <kkathman> nalioth: you type so fast :)
[11:45] <nalioth> kkathman: i'm an advanced AI
[11:45] <kkathman> foampeace: if you think there is a bug, you can report it at bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[11:46] <kkathman> nalioth: yes I know :)
[11:48] <foampeace> kkathman: do you know how to start and stop the cron daemon?
[11:48] <kkathman> foampeace: why do you want to do that?
[11:49] <kkathman> cron is designed to start once and run forever
[11:49] <foampeace> kkathman: i mean restart it
[11:49] <foampeace> no restart?
[11:50] <kkathman> there are no parameters for cron that I know of
[11:50] <kkathman> foampeace: you can have cron re-read its crontab I think with crontab -e  or something like that
[11:52] <kkathman> you might try crontab -l to see if your job is there tho
[11:57] <foampeac1> trying gcrontab
[11:59] <mth`MAW> Good night
[11:59] <rysiek> hello guys
[11:59] <rysiek> anybody here? :)
[12:00] <nalioth> rysiek: no we're all in alaska, watching the whales