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kiko-afkit's mdz!12:31
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SteveAmdz: hello12:52
SteveAmdz: ping12:53
carloshi dudes!12:56
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kikoheya carlos 12:56
kikohow's it going?12:56
carlosjust arrived to the hotel, I'm going to take a shower and go to the conference rooms12:57
carloskiko, where are the rooms exactly?12:57
carlosI only know they are in hte second floor12:57
sivangcarlos: hey! how was the flight?12:57
carlossivang, fine, after Australia's conference any flight is light ;-)12:57
sivangcarlos: heheh12:58
kikocarlos, they are in S112:58
sivangkiko: aren't you also here? 12:58
kikosivang, me? where?12:58
sivangkiko: ah , no12:58
sivangkiko: ah sorry, nothing :)12:58
carloskiko, S1 at the second floor or S1 is a floor? (we use 'S1' in Spain for the parking floors, that's why I ask ;-) )01:00
sivangcarlos: S1 is the floor01:00
kikoS1 is a basement01:00
kikoa dungeon01:00
kikoa carpeted dungeon01:00
sivangcarlos: only two of the elevators are going there,01:00
ajmitcha carpeted dungeon with no natural light, perfect for us01:01
carlosok01:01
sivangajmitch: isn't the spa club next to here?01:01
ajmitchyes01:01
sivangajmitch: are we allowed to use it?01:01
ajmitchno idea01:01
carlosthanks for the info guys!01:01
ajmitchpossibly01:01
sivangajmitch: we might want to test that :)01:01
kikoajmitch, how are you online?01:03
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ajmitchkiko: borrowed siretart's spare laptop01:09
kikoajmitch, darn.01:10
ajmitchyeah, nothing has shown up01:11
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Mezajmitch: shame that you dont have your GPG key anymore01:21
Mezajmitch: if another geek stole it, does your key count as compromised?01:22
kikoit does01:23
LarstiQajmitch: you lost your laptop on the way?01:24
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MezLarstiQ, It was stolen01:26
LarstiQeek!01:27
ajmitchMez: yes, I've got to make a new key, revoke the old one, get new one signed, etc01:29
Mez*sighs*01:29
LarstiQajmitch: I'm really sorry to hear that :/01:29
MezI know how much of a PITA that is01:29
MezI would say get it signed while you're here01:29
Mezbut creating on another persones lappy isnt exactly saf01:30
Mezbut, I'm sure you're resourceful enough01:30
ajmitchclean install of breezy is fine enough01:31
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kikoMez, he could create one using a livecd and then copy it somewhere else01:37
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kokedo you log all the launchpad operations?01:51
kikonot /really/ but sorta01:51
kokeI had an idea for my current project at work which could be applied to launchpad too01:52
kokeI'm working with rubyonrails which also logs al the requests, plus manual logging01:52
kokeso the interesting point is to search for patterns in the logs and discover how users use the tool01:52
kokeso if you see there's a pattern repeating a lot of times which need three clicks to do a task01:53
kokeyou can enhance user experience by making this task available at the starting point01:53
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kokeI've seen a bug against launchpad today about having a link to create a new spec just after creating one01:54
kokethat kind of things01:54
kokewhat do you think01:54
koke?01:54
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sivangkoke: how does that relate to that bug btw?01:59
Mezhmm02:03
MezSteveA: ping02:03
SteveAhello mez02:03
Mezsteve, I got your email earlier02:04
Mezbut was that sent from launchpad?02:04
SteveAi sent it from the server launchpad runs on, in the same way that launchpad sends is02:05
SteveAso, if you're still not receiving mails from launchpad, it means i need to ask stu about it when he arrives tomorrow02:05
SteveArather than ask the sysadmins about it today02:05
MezA new email was sent to 'mez@ubuntu.com' with instructions on how to confirm that it belongs to you.02:05
MezI'm recieving emails rom launchpad02:05
SteveAgood02:05
Mezbut, just not that02:05
SteveAthen i guess it is fixed02:06
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Mezthey're coming to ubuntu@sourceguru.net02:06
Mezbut not to mez@ubuntu.com02:06
MezI'm not recieving mails from katie either02:06
Mezoh02:06
Mezok02:06
MezIT's now asking me to validte02:07
Mezw0002:07
SteveAcool02:07
Mezthough katie's probably a different matter02:07
Mezat least now I can set up a proper bzr account02:07
SteveAgreat02:09
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matsubaragood morning!01:05
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sabdflmoin moin02:00
lifelessola!02:00
lifelesshow was the rhps ?02:00
sabdfllifeless: awesome02:00
sabdflslut! asshole!02:00
lifelessahhah02:00
sabdfllifeless: some oddness02:01
sabdfli do: bzr merge chinstrap:/home/warthogs/archives/rocketfuel/launchpad/devel02:02
sabdflit says 0 conflicts02:02
sabdflbzr status shows no changes02:02
sabdflthat can't be right?02:02
sabdflcan it?02:02
lifelesswhy not ?02:02
lifelessif nothing new has landed...02:02
lifelessdoes bzr status show a pending merge ?02:02
sabdflthis is my converted branch02:02
sabdflno02:03
lifelesslet me have a look02:03
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sabdflmy old baz branch was merged up to the latest baz revision02:03
sabdflbut there must surely be newer stuff that has landed since02:03
sabdfland the pending branch page is showing a conflict02:03
sabdflso i assume it must have had to do some merging where it generated the diffs02:03
lifelessyah02:04
lifelessI'm checking02:04
lifelessoh, doh02:06
lifelessso, you should rsync down lrocketfuel02:06
sabdflhmmk02:06
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lifelessrsync -r chinstrap:/home/warthogs/archives/rocketfuel/launchpad/devel launchpad-upstream02:07
sabdflwhat's causing that, lifeless?02:07
lifelessbzr merge launchpad-upstream02:07
lifelessI'll need to check why you did no get an error with 'merge', but merge does not take rsync urls.02:07
sabdflok02:08
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Keybukjblack: a word ...02:18
Keybukhttp://maps.google.com/maps?q=from%3A+333+N+Main+St,+Wilkes-Barre,+PA+18702+to%3A+%2B41%C2%B0+15'+57.66%22,+-75%C2%B0+53'+37.56%22+(41.266017,+-75.893767)&f=d&hl=en02:19
Keybukwherever you went with your GPS to get the co-ordinates for this hotel ... it's somewhat closer to your house than I would expect :p02:19
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sabdflhas the stubmachine landed?02:44
Mezsabdfl: could you set backports-promotion spec to not be scheduled... it shouldnt have been scheduled as a startt - it's not really anything other than changing a wiki page to explain things more02:46
Mezoh, and I was talking to you before about a test-compile server farm... should I add that as a spec, or wait for TB meeting?02:47
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kikowelcome03:55
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sivangsabdfl: re: bugtask assignments, are you terribly opposed to having "reassign" action part of an additional line like the "Request fix", but underneath the branch name ("launchpad (upstream)") ?04:40
sivangsabdfl: even if you make the whole line a link, still it seems to be leaving for the user to try and "look for where to click" rather then instructing him04:41
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Mezcan i get a bug from bugzilla imported into Malone?04:49
kikoMez, all of them will be imported soon enough04:51
Mezfair enough04:51
MezI just wanted it to be managed in LP04:51
LarstiQkiko: bugzilla will be dropped totally?04:51
Mezand is it possible to import bugs from... say, berlios?04:52
kikoLarstiQ, it will be made read-only, yes.04:52
kikoMez, I think the better alternative there is to add watches and sync them in04:52
Mezkiko: how?04:52
kikoMez, well, you can add watches today -- we just don't sync in comments (only the status)04:54
Mezkiko: but i need a bug already filed dont i?04:54
kikoin bugzilla? yes.04:54
Mezhow do i sync it in thoguh?04:54
kikoif you add a bug watch, it will be done automatically.04:55
Mezwhere do i add it?04:55
kikolook for "#  Link To Other Bugtracker  "04:57
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Mezkiko: I dont see the link anywhere05:00
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kikoMez, in the top right of the bug page.05:04
MezI only have "report a bug"05:04
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sabdflsivang: i'm terribly opposed to anything which makes that one-line-per-task into more than one line, in 1024x76806:59
sabdflkiko: watch syncing is not yet automatic06:59
sabdfllifeless: feeling ok?07:03
kikosabdfl, watch syncing for bugzilla? sure it is.07:05
kikoif you meant bringing bugs in from bugzilla, then yes07:05
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bradbjbailey: fabbione is looking for you07:17
lifelesssabdfl: below average for sure07:17
lifelessjust spend 20 mins on the loo07:17
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MithrandirI think one should get brownie points^W^Wkarma for writing specs.09:16
MezI think we should get karma for eating the muffins09:17
Mezhttps://launchpad.net/people/motu/+assignedbugs = b0rked09:18
Mezcan someone please fix?09:18
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KinnisonSteveA: I've looked at that review10:19
KinnisonI always have problems using the form: assert cond, msg10:19
KinnisonIt always seems to treat it successful10:20
KinnisonSteveA: it's possible I've always been unlucky of course10:20
KinnisonSteveA: the sqlvalues thing I'm happy to do10:21
KinnisonSteveA: I emphasise 'assert' in order to make it clear that the user shouldn't be expecting to catch exceptions indicating a precondition failure.10:21
KinnisonSteveA: If I correct the english where noted, use sqlvalues and get the two-arg asserts done, do I have r=stevea?10:21
SteveAyes10:23
SteveAKinnison: 10:23
Kinnisoncool, thanks10:23
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kokewho is developing the specs part?11:17
kikokoke, mostly sabdfl 11:18
kokeis there any chance to have https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/3765 before the conference ends?11:18
UbugtuMalone bug #3765: We need new spec notification Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/376511:18
kikoperhaps11:18
kokenice bot :)11:18
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kikoKinnison, you'd do well to trigger a gina run.11:27
Kinnisonokay, I'm on it11:27
Kinnisonkiko: powering up!11:29
kikogoodie goodie gumdrops11:30
Kinnisonkiko: surging forwards!11:33
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hypn0what is launchpad, have i got some free webspace :-/11:43
SteveAhypn0: take a look at https://launchpad.net11:44
SteveAyou can register for an account, and tell people who you are on there11:45
SteveAthen, take a look at the bug tracker, spec tracker, translations and all that stuff11:45
hypn0oh so its for developers11:46
hypn0i registered already11:46
hypn0i'm sure it said i got a homepage/wiki or something :-)11:47
hypn0i logged out and in again, and seemed to have lost it :-D11:47
Kinnisonsabdfl: people will use "Pending Approval" for pending-review today11:59
sabdflcool enough11:59
kikoKinnison, it's fine, because it should be almost the same, anyway11:59
Kinnisonsabdfl: So we should probably review all we can from those and then set them back to draft, or to pending-review if we get that onto production11:59
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