[12:31] <kiko-afk> it's mdz!
[12:52] <SteveA> mdz: hello
[12:53] <SteveA> mdz: ping
[12:56] <carlos> hi dudes!
[12:56] <kiko> heya carlos 
[12:56] <kiko> how's it going?
[12:57] <carlos> just arrived to the hotel, I'm going to take a shower and go to the conference rooms
[12:57] <carlos> kiko, where are the rooms exactly?
[12:57] <carlos> I only know they are in hte second floor
[12:57] <sivang> carlos: hey! how was the flight?
[12:57] <carlos> sivang, fine, after Australia's conference any flight is light ;-)
[12:58] <sivang> carlos: heheh
[12:58] <kiko> carlos, they are in S1
[12:58] <sivang> kiko: aren't you also here? 
[12:58] <kiko> sivang, me? where?
[12:58] <sivang> kiko: ah , no
[12:58] <sivang> kiko: ah sorry, nothing :)
[01:00] <carlos> kiko, S1 at the second floor or S1 is a floor? (we use 'S1' in Spain for the parking floors, that's why I ask ;-) )
[01:00] <sivang> carlos: S1 is the floor
[01:00] <kiko> S1 is a basement
[01:00] <kiko> a dungeon
[01:00] <kiko> a carpeted dungeon
[01:00] <sivang> carlos: only two of the elevators are going there,
[01:01] <ajmitch> a carpeted dungeon with no natural light, perfect for us
[01:01] <carlos> ok
[01:01] <sivang> ajmitch: isn't the spa club next to here?
[01:01] <ajmitch> yes
[01:01] <sivang> ajmitch: are we allowed to use it?
[01:01] <ajmitch> no idea
[01:01] <carlos> thanks for the info guys!
[01:01] <ajmitch> possibly
[01:01] <sivang> ajmitch: we might want to test that :)
[01:03] <kiko> ajmitch, how are you online?
[01:09] <ajmitch> kiko: borrowed siretart's spare laptop
[01:10] <kiko> ajmitch, darn.
[01:11] <ajmitch> yeah, nothing has shown up
[01:21] <Mez> ajmitch: shame that you dont have your GPG key anymore
[01:22] <Mez> ajmitch: if another geek stole it, does your key count as compromised?
[01:23] <kiko> it does
[01:24] <LarstiQ> ajmitch: you lost your laptop on the way?
[01:26] <Mez> LarstiQ, It was stolen
[01:27] <LarstiQ> eek!
[01:29] <ajmitch> Mez: yes, I've got to make a new key, revoke the old one, get new one signed, etc
[01:29] <Mez> *sighs*
[01:29] <LarstiQ> ajmitch: I'm really sorry to hear that :/
[01:29] <Mez> I know how much of a PITA that is
[01:29] <Mez> I would say get it signed while you're here
[01:30] <Mez> but creating on another persones lappy isnt exactly saf
[01:30] <Mez> but, I'm sure you're resourceful enough
[01:31] <ajmitch> clean install of breezy is fine enough
[01:37] <kiko> Mez, he could create one using a livecd and then copy it somewhere else
[01:51] <koke> do you log all the launchpad operations?
[01:51] <kiko> not /really/ but sorta
[01:52] <koke> I had an idea for my current project at work which could be applied to launchpad too
[01:52] <koke> I'm working with rubyonrails which also logs al the requests, plus manual logging
[01:52] <koke> so the interesting point is to search for patterns in the logs and discover how users use the tool
[01:53] <koke> so if you see there's a pattern repeating a lot of times which need three clicks to do a task
[01:53] <koke> you can enhance user experience by making this task available at the starting point
[01:54] <koke> I've seen a bug against launchpad today about having a link to create a new spec just after creating one
[01:54] <koke> that kind of things
[01:54] <koke> what do you think
[01:54] <koke> ?
[01:59] <sivang> koke: how does that relate to that bug btw?
[02:03] <Mez> hmm
[02:03] <Mez> SteveA: ping
[02:03] <SteveA> hello mez
[02:04] <Mez> steve, I got your email earlier
[02:04] <Mez> but was that sent from launchpad?
[02:05] <SteveA> i sent it from the server launchpad runs on, in the same way that launchpad sends is
[02:05] <SteveA> so, if you're still not receiving mails from launchpad, it means i need to ask stu about it when he arrives tomorrow
[02:05] <SteveA> rather than ask the sysadmins about it today
[02:05] <Mez> A new email was sent to 'mez@ubuntu.com' with instructions on how to confirm that it belongs to you.
[02:05] <Mez> I'm recieving emails rom launchpad
[02:05] <SteveA> good
[02:05] <Mez> but, just not that
[02:06] <SteveA> then i guess it is fixed
[02:06] <Mez> they're coming to ubuntu@sourceguru.net
[02:06] <Mez> but not to mez@ubuntu.com
[02:06] <Mez> I'm not recieving mails from katie either
[02:06] <Mez> oh
[02:06] <Mez> ok
[02:07] <Mez> IT's now asking me to validte
[02:07] <Mez> w00
[02:07] <SteveA> cool
[02:07] <Mez> though katie's probably a different matter
[02:07] <Mez> at least now I can set up a proper bzr account
[02:09] <SteveA> great
[01:05] <matsubara> good morning!
[02:00] <sabdfl> moin moin
[02:00] <lifeless> ola!
[02:00] <lifeless> how was the rhps ?
[02:00] <sabdfl> lifeless: awesome
[02:00] <sabdfl> slut! asshole!
[02:00] <lifeless> ahhah
[02:01] <sabdfl> lifeless: some oddness
[02:02] <sabdfl> i do: bzr merge chinstrap:/home/warthogs/archives/rocketfuel/launchpad/devel
[02:02] <sabdfl> it says 0 conflicts
[02:02] <sabdfl> bzr status shows no changes
[02:02] <sabdfl> that can't be right?
[02:02] <sabdfl> can it?
[02:02] <lifeless> why not ?
[02:02] <lifeless> if nothing new has landed...
[02:02] <lifeless> does bzr status show a pending merge ?
[02:02] <sabdfl> this is my converted branch
[02:03] <sabdfl> no
[02:03] <lifeless> let me have a look
[02:03] <sabdfl> my old baz branch was merged up to the latest baz revision
[02:03] <sabdfl> but there must surely be newer stuff that has landed since
[02:03] <sabdfl> and the pending branch page is showing a conflict
[02:03] <sabdfl> so i assume it must have had to do some merging where it generated the diffs
[02:04] <lifeless> yah
[02:04] <lifeless> I'm checking
[02:06] <lifeless> oh, doh
[02:06] <lifeless> so, you should rsync down lrocketfuel
[02:06] <sabdfl> hmmk
[02:07] <lifeless> rsync -r chinstrap:/home/warthogs/archives/rocketfuel/launchpad/devel launchpad-upstream
[02:07] <sabdfl> what's causing that, lifeless?
[02:07] <lifeless> bzr merge launchpad-upstream
[02:07] <lifeless> I'll need to check why you did no get an error with 'merge', but merge does not take rsync urls.
[02:08] <sabdfl> ok
[02:18] <Keybuk> jblack: a word ...
[02:19] <Keybuk> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=from%3A+333+N+Main+St,+Wilkes-Barre,+PA+18702+to%3A+%2B41%C2%B0+15'+57.66%22,+-75%C2%B0+53'+37.56%22+(41.266017,+-75.893767)&f=d&hl=en
[02:19] <Keybuk> wherever you went with your GPS to get the co-ordinates for this hotel ... it's somewhat closer to your house than I would expect :p
[02:44] <sabdfl> has the stubmachine landed?
[02:46] <Mez> sabdfl: could you set backports-promotion spec to not be scheduled... it shouldnt have been scheduled as a startt - it's not really anything other than changing a wiki page to explain things more
[02:47] <Mez> oh, and I was talking to you before about a test-compile server farm... should I add that as a spec, or wait for TB meeting?
[03:55] <kiko> welcome
[04:40] <sivang> sabdfl: re: bugtask assignments, are you terribly opposed to having "reassign" action part of an additional line like the "Request fix", but underneath the branch name ("launchpad (upstream)") ?
[04:41] <sivang> sabdfl: even if you make the whole line a link, still it seems to be leaving for the user to try and "look for where to click" rather then instructing him
[04:49] <Mez> can i get a bug from bugzilla imported into Malone?
[04:51] <kiko> Mez, all of them will be imported soon enough
[04:51] <Mez> fair enough
[04:51] <Mez> I just wanted it to be managed in LP
[04:51] <LarstiQ> kiko: bugzilla will be dropped totally?
[04:52] <Mez> and is it possible to import bugs from... say, berlios?
[04:52] <kiko> LarstiQ, it will be made read-only, yes.
[04:52] <kiko> Mez, I think the better alternative there is to add watches and sync them in
[04:52] <Mez> kiko: how?
[04:54] <kiko> Mez, well, you can add watches today -- we just don't sync in comments (only the status)
[04:54] <Mez> kiko: but i need a bug already filed dont i?
[04:54] <kiko> in bugzilla? yes.
[04:54] <Mez> how do i sync it in thoguh?
[04:55] <kiko> if you add a bug watch, it will be done automatically.
[04:55] <Mez> where do i add it?
[04:57] <kiko> look for "#  Link To Other Bugtracker  "
[05:00] <Mez> kiko: I dont see the link anywhere
[05:04] <kiko> Mez, in the top right of the bug page.
[05:04] <Mez> I only have "report a bug"
[06:59] <sabdfl> sivang: i'm terribly opposed to anything which makes that one-line-per-task into more than one line, in 1024x768
[06:59] <sabdfl> kiko: watch syncing is not yet automatic
[07:03] <sabdfl> lifeless: feeling ok?
[07:05] <kiko> sabdfl, watch syncing for bugzilla? sure it is.
[07:05] <kiko> if you meant bringing bugs in from bugzilla, then yes
[07:17] <bradb> jbailey: fabbione is looking for you
[07:17] <lifeless> sabdfl: below average for sure
[07:17] <lifeless> just spend 20 mins on the loo
[09:16] <Mithrandir> I think one should get brownie points^W^Wkarma for writing specs.
[09:17] <Mez> I think we should get karma for eating the muffins
[09:18] <Mez> https://launchpad.net/people/motu/+assignedbugs = b0rked
[09:18] <Mez> can someone please fix?
[10:19] <Kinnison> SteveA: I've looked at that review
[10:19] <Kinnison> I always have problems using the form: assert cond, msg
[10:20] <Kinnison> It always seems to treat it successful
[10:20] <Kinnison> SteveA: it's possible I've always been unlucky of course
[10:21] <Kinnison> SteveA: the sqlvalues thing I'm happy to do
[10:21] <Kinnison> SteveA: I emphasise 'assert' in order to make it clear that the user shouldn't be expecting to catch exceptions indicating a precondition failure.
[10:21] <Kinnison> SteveA: If I correct the english where noted, use sqlvalues and get the two-arg asserts done, do I have r=stevea?
[10:23] <SteveA> yes
[10:23] <SteveA> Kinnison: 
[10:23] <Kinnison> cool, thanks
[11:17] <koke> who is developing the specs part?
[11:18] <kiko> koke, mostly sabdfl 
[11:18] <koke> is there any chance to have https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/3765 before the conference ends?
[11:18] <Ubugtu> Malone bug #3765: We need new spec notification Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/3765
[11:18] <kiko> perhaps
[11:18] <koke> nice bot :)
[11:27] <kiko> Kinnison, you'd do well to trigger a gina run.
[11:27] <Kinnison> okay, I'm on it
[11:29] <Kinnison> kiko: powering up!
[11:30] <kiko> goodie goodie gumdrops
[11:33] <Kinnison> kiko: surging forwards!
[11:43] <hypn0> what is launchpad, have i got some free webspace :-/
[11:44] <SteveA> hypn0: take a look at https://launchpad.net
[11:45] <SteveA> you can register for an account, and tell people who you are on there
[11:45] <SteveA> then, take a look at the bug tracker, spec tracker, translations and all that stuff
[11:46] <hypn0> oh so its for developers
[11:46] <hypn0> i registered already
[11:47] <hypn0> i'm sure it said i got a homepage/wiki or something :-)
[11:47] <hypn0> i logged out and in again, and seemed to have lost it :-D
[11:59] <Kinnison> sabdfl: people will use "Pending Approval" for pending-review today
[11:59] <sabdfl> cool enough
[11:59] <kiko> Kinnison, it's fine, because it should be almost the same, anyway
[11:59] <Kinnison> sabdfl: So we should probably review all we can from those and then set them back to draft, or to pending-review if we get that onto production