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| Riddell | hi tshah | 02:39 |
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| tshah | hey | 02:40 |
| tshah | I suddenly got assigned a ton of work so I guess I can't do as much as I thought I could do | 02:40 |
| tshah | but I did make some changes to the FAQ | 02:40 |
| Riddell | pah, universities understand that free software is more important than coursework | 02:40 |
| Riddell | send us your diffs | 02:41 |
| tshah | ok... its only one file, but I'll send you the diff..... | 02:42 |
| tshah | crap! do you have the original tar file? | 02:42 |
| Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/~jr/tmp/kubuntu.org.tar.bz2 | 02:43 |
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| tshah | I am not too sure how you wanted me to zip it up and also which date, etc, but here is a link to the diff: http://koshishr.res.cmu.edu/tejChanges.diff | 03:20 |
| tshah | Riddell, tell me if you want it made differently or any other probs | 03:21 |
| Riddell | Resolving koshishr.res.cmu.edu... failed: Name or service not known. | 03:22 |
| Riddell | tshah: is that right? | 03:26 |
| tshah | sorry http://koshish.res.cmu.edu/tejChanges.diff | 03:29 |
| Riddell | tshah: the changes to 'What does "Kubuntu" mean?' are incorrect | 03:43 |
| Riddell | 23:01 < Riddell> ubuntu means love of humanity in zulu/xhosa and other languages, kubuntu means towards humanity in bemba | 03:43 |
| tshah | are you sure about that, I read in wiki differently | 03:43 |
| Riddell | which wiki? | 03:43 |
| tshah | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(ideology) | 03:43 |
| tshah | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu | 03:44 |
| Riddell | the Kubuntu page is wrong | 03:45 |
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| tshah | ok, sorry about that | 03:46 |
| tshah | so does that mean the "k" in the front being a real word is a coincidence? | 03:50 |
| tshah | I think I will take this guys word for it: http://dot.kde.org/1111118006/1111143814/ | 03:54 |
| tshah | so Riddell, how does this sound: "Kubuntu", means "towards humanity" in Bemba. It is simply a coincidence that the "k" in the front also implies that it uses the K Desktop Environment. | 04:11 |
| apokryphos | tshah: it was intentional all along, of course ;-) | 04:13 |
| tshah | yeah, it all works out perfecutly in the end :) | 04:15 |
| tshah | *perfectly | 04:15 |
| Riddell | tshah: yes, the k is a prefix (similar to how swahili prefixes kiswahili) | 04:46 |
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| pef | hello | 08:06 |
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| _Tonio_ | morning all | 09:41 |
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| Tm_T | bah | 11:39 |
| Tm_T | I really don't understand why this can't work the way I like | 11:40 |
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| JRe | Riddell: I think there is a problem with breezy's qt4 packages | 01:27 |
| JRe | Riddell: qt4-dev-tools package conflicts with qt3-designer | 01:28 |
| JRe | Riddell: but the qt3-designer version is not the ubuntu one so it do not get uninstalled | 01:29 |
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| apokryphos | on http://kubuntu.org/announcements/breezy-release.php on describing hoary -> breezy upgrade, there really needs to be a mention that users *have* to have *buntu-desktop installed before the upgrade | 02:15 |
| apokryphos | lot of problems caused when that's not the case, it seems | 02:15 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: how else would you "upgrade"? | 02:22 |
| Lathiat | Riddell: dist-upgrade when ubuntu-desktop isnt installed | 02:31 |
| Lathiat | Riddell: lots of people remove ubuntu-desktop as a result of installign unsupported packages etc | 02:31 |
| Lathiat | or well kubuntu-desktop in our case | 02:32 |
| Riddell | dist-upgrade will still work, you just end up with the same programs | 02:32 |
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| Lathiat | Riddell: i bet stuff was changed around in ubuntu-desktop thats needed | 02:39 |
| Lathiat | x stuff, or whatever | 02:39 |
| Lathiat | apokryphos seems to think so | 02:40 |
| Lathiat | and i've seen it in past upgrades | 02:40 |
| Riddell | Lathiat: ok, I'll change that after breakfast | 02:48 |
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| apokryphos | yes, dist-upgrade relies on one of the respective metapacks to perform the upgrade successfully (calculate which new packages are needed, which aren't etc). We have it on wiki.b.c/BreezyUpgradeNotes | 03:26 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: wiki.b.c? | 03:30 |
| apokryphos | .u.c, sorry | 03:30 |
| Riddell | breezy-release.php changed | 03:35 |
| apokryphos | thanks | 03:36 |
| pef | Riddell: hello Jonathan | 03:41 |
| Riddell | hi pef | 03:41 |
| pef | Riddell: now I'm a MOTU, can I upload something to archive ? or is it something different from developpers status ? | 03:43 |
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| Riddell | pef: you have to sign the code of conduct, which I assume you did on membership, and give elmo your GPG key | 03:43 |
| Riddell | pef: make sure you sign the CoC in launchpad and include your GPG key on launchpad | 03:44 |
| pef | Riddell: both are ok | 03:44 |
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| Riddell | pef: you need to get elmoto confirm if you are whitelisted | 03:45 |
| pef | Riddell: ok, thank you :) | 03:48 |
| apokryphos | congrats on MOTUship pef; great stuff =) | 03:56 |
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| Mez | Riddell: what's the easiest way to get general KDE stuff to build... isnt there a script you can include in rules to od it? | 04:34 |
| pef | apokryphos: thank you :] | 04:41 |
| pef | Mez: cdbs with kde.mk maybe | 04:42 |
| Mez | that wa sit | 04:42 |
| Mez | kde.mk | 04:42 |
| Mez | doesnt seem to work with Makefile.cvs though | 04:51 |
| Mez | or should i do that manually? | 04:51 |
| pef | Mez: you need to run make -f Makefile.cvs manually | 04:58 |
| pef | Riddell: ping | 05:51 |
| Riddell | pef: hi | 05:53 |
| pef | Riddell: why konversation doesn't uses kwallet to store authentication parameters ? (nickserv password for example) | 05:54 |
| Riddell | pef: no idea, you'd needto ask konversation developers (ericcartman on #kde-devel) | 05:55 |
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| pef | Riddell: thanks for the pointer | 05:56 |
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| Riddell | gwenview needs a package update (and possibly a sync) | 06:05 |
| pef | Riddell: will work on it | 06:07 |
| pef | mm no...main :/ | 06:08 |
| Riddell | pef: please work on it and upload to revu, I'll review and upload to main | 06:10 |
| pef | Riddell: ok ! | 06:10 |
| Riddell | yay | 06:11 |
| pef | Riddell: if syncing from Debian, should I add en entry to Debian's changelog, or overwrite Debian's changelog with current Ubuntu's one ? | 06:14 |
| Riddell | pef: merge the changelogs | 06:14 |
| Riddell | start with debian one, marge in all the ubuntu entries in correct places, then add a new ubuntu one at top | 06:15 |
| pef | Riddell: I think a sync is a good idea, I don't see any ubuntu's changes which can be lost with this sync | 06:16 |
| Riddell | pef: the kubuntu package might have been made with unsermake | 06:18 |
| Riddell | you can keep doing that (in which case rebuild the .orig) or not bother | 06:19 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuRoadmap2 | 06:20 |
| Riddell | comments welcome | 06:20 |
| pef | Riddell: do you know something like a "mergechangelogs" tools ? :] | 06:24 |
| Riddell | pef: nope, maybe merge-o-metic does it | 06:25 |
| pef | ok, otherwise I will write it :) | 06:25 |
| pef | I need to be better at python | 06:27 |
| Riddell | http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/gwenview/ | 06:27 |
| Riddell | mm, 13Meg debdiff | 06:28 |
| \sh | meh | 06:28 |
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| allee | pef: mhmm, there's mergechanges from devscripts package. try and tell me if it works ;) | 06:37 |
| pef | allee: I tried merge[tab] too :D | 06:38 |
| allee | :) | 06:38 |
| Riddell | hi jjesse | 06:39 |
| jjesse | hello Riddell | 06:39 |
| \sh | Riddell: do we have something like a map widget? | 07:05 |
| \sh | Riddell: for displaying city maps to select (good guessed) language and timezone ? | 07:06 |
| Riddell | \sh: tackat is developing one for KDE 4, I don't know if there's a current one | 07:07 |
| Riddell | kworldclock | 07:07 |
| \sh | Riddell: we need something like this to reuse it in the kubuntu-express installer....just reading over the notes of kamion | 07:08 |
| \sh | Riddell: no kworldclock... | 07:08 |
| \sh | looks like, that we need to find at qt/kde google map world map widget ,-) | 07:09 |
| \sh | s/at/a/ | 07:09 |
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| insanekane | hello Sime | 07:11 |
| jjesse | Riddell: i'm look at the bug #18803 who created the package kubuntu-docs? | 07:11 |
| Riddell | Sime: insanekane is thinking about a keyboard map program in python | 07:12 |
| Riddell | insanekane: I don't know if Sime is on IRC just now | 07:12 |
| Riddell | jjesse: me and \sh | 07:12 |
| Riddell | jjesse: I think something changed in ubuntu-docs to break it | 07:12 |
| \sh | index.html issue in ff? | 07:12 |
| insanekane | Riddell: well, not keyboard map ... rather it is a character selector | 07:12 |
| \sh | on kubuntu? | 07:12 |
| insanekane | Riddell: but keyboard maps are better implemented as Helper modules of SCIM, i.e., as an IME | 07:13 |
| insanekane | btw, to all involved, thanks MUCH for the PyQt/PyKDE packages ... you guys are awesome :) | 07:14 |
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| \sh | insanekane: thx | 07:15 |
| insanekane | \sh: thanks :) | 07:15 |
| \sh | Riddell: btw...I just had a short chat with jblack about importing pyqt pykde stuff into the bazaar repos ... | 07:16 |
| \sh | Riddell: we will have another sprint how to do this | 07:16 |
| Riddell | sprint? or bof? | 07:16 |
| \sh | Riddell: a private sprint...even an introduction to bzr, bazaar and hct :) | 07:16 |
| Riddell | \sh: ooh, sonds fun, can I get invited? | 07:17 |
| Riddell | sounds | 07:17 |
| insanekane | will PyQt/PyKDE be a standard install in future Kubuntu ? | 07:17 |
| \sh | Riddell: sure...i'll catch him later during smokers bof :) and find out when he has time | 07:17 |
| \sh | insanekane: thx to riddell it's back again in main | 07:18 |
| Riddell | insanekane: it is on the standard install in breezy | 07:18 |
| \sh | insanekane: including pykdeextensions | 07:18 |
| Mez | \sh: count me in too? I mean - I've had his stuff alrady :d but it'de be nice to do it in person | 07:18 |
| insanekane | cool :) | 07:18 |
| \sh | I think he will be pleased to do a mass "howto" session on his fav. toolchain :) | 07:19 |
| Mez | lol | 07:19 |
| Mez | he doing baz or baz-ng? | 07:19 |
| \sh | doesn't matter what...actually i have a rough overview about the difference between the baz/-ng and cvs/svn/bla | 07:20 |
| Mez | I'm only used to using baz :D | 07:21 |
| Mez | I like bax | 07:21 |
| Mez | baz | 07:21 |
| jjesse | Riddell: i've updated that bug, figured out what firefox is looking for, but i don't know how to fix things :) | 07:34 |
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| Sime | hello all | 07:58 |
| Sime | insanekane: HELLO! | 07:59 |
| sebas | hi Sime | 08:05 |
| Sime | hey | 08:05 |
| Sime | sebas: can I rip the screensaver bit out of displayconfig? | 08:27 |
| sebas | Sure. | 08:28 |
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| sebas | The whole dpms tab? | 08:28 |
| sebas | (There'd be no replacement for the dpms set widget) | 08:28 |
| sebas | But that could move to hardware, I guess. | 08:28 |
| Sime | we still need the DPMS part? (just one widget, that is not a problem to keep) | 08:29 |
| sebas | Yeah, only that widget, the rest can go away. | 08:29 |
| Sime | k | 08:30 |
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| jjesse | Riddell: when you get a chance can you look at the bug i've updated, i think it should take you like 5 mins to fix :) | 08:49 |
| Mez | jjesse, link ? | 08:51 |
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| jjesse | http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18803 | 08:51 |
| paulproteus | Riddell: There is a simple, one-line fix for that bug. | 08:53 |
| paulproteus | Mez: Apparently you're working on that bug? | 08:53 |
| Mez | paulproteus, add a patch to the bugtracker then :P | 08:53 |
| paulproteus | Mez: One sec. :) | 08:53 |
| paulproteus | http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18803 updated, Mez | 08:57 |
| paulproteus | From #ubuntu-doc | 08:57 |
| paulproteus | (14:53:15) mdke: don't forget that /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html is a symlink in ubuntu-docs | 08:57 |
| Mez | ok | 08:57 |
| paulproteus | But I don't see how that's relevant. | 08:57 |
| paulproteus | Mez: Do you think dpkg-divert should also be removed from postrm?\ | 08:59 |
| Mez | I dont know | 09:00 |
| paulproteus | Mez: Okay. | 09:00 |
| paulproteus | Mez: I updated the bug again, fwiw. | 09:03 |
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