[12:07] <carlos> sabdfl, kiko should we target all Rosetta specs we talked about by phone to ubz like the other ubuntu specs?
[12:07] <kiko> carlos, yes, please propose them
[12:07] <carlos> ok
[12:07] <sabdfl> thanks carlos
[12:08] <carlos> np
[12:08] <Kinnison> sabdfl: bug 3732 I think
[12:09] <Ubugtu> Malone bug #3732: from launchpad.codestandards import XXX Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Steve Alexander, Status: Accepted http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/3732
[12:50] <lifeless> stevea ping
[12:50] <lifeless> SteveA: ^^
[12:50] <lifeless> nm
[12:50] <lifeless> erm
[12:51] <lifeless> do mind
[01:06] <sivang> kiko dude, can you make me drafter for  https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+spec/whats-new/+people, I see it's in need of one
[01:06] <sivang> (I couldn't assign myself there)
[01:09] <sivang> hmm, I see now we need a way to link between specs not based on dependency but more of a relation
[01:10] <kiko> sivang, done
[01:14] <lifeless> siving is it in wiki mode ? can you just type the spec name ?
[01:21] <sivang> kiko: thank you
[01:25] <SteveA> lifeless: pong
[01:26] <lifeless> nm
[01:26] <lifeless> was before
[01:26] <lifeless> when I found you
[01:47] <lifeless> just FYI, pqm is down
[01:47] <lifeless> its not slow, its got a bug with the current merge
[01:47] <lifeless> I am investigating
[01:49] <Kinnison> cprov: 20:30, dinner, meeting in the lobby. Okay?
[01:49] <cprov> Kinnison: just got dinner, but will be there for sure 
[01:49] <Kinnison> cprov: d'oh
[01:50] <cprov> Kinnison: no prob
[01:50] <lifeless> Kinnison: hows the scheduling going?
[01:51] <Kinnison> lifeless: Not a clue, I'm in the lightning talks
[01:51] <lifeless> (you are still in there yes ?)
[01:51] <lifeless> ah
[01:51] <lifeless> kiko: ping
[01:51] <kiko> lifeless, it's going. negotiating.
[01:51] <lifeless> if you want me in there, let me know
[01:52] <cprov> Kinnison: are we going out for dinner or just having it in the hotel rest.
[01:52] <Kinnison> cprov: going out to dinner
[01:53] <cprov> Kinnison: ok, I'll be there. if you want you an pick the stuff I bring to you from Brazil, room 538
[01:54] <Kinnison> cprov: I'll collect it another time.
[01:54] <cprov> Kinnison: okidoki, see you in 35 min
[01:56] <Alinux> hello, I'm interested to translate,ubuntu text installer...what's templates exact name ?
[01:57] <salgado__> is pqm stuck again?
[01:57] <lifeless> 11:47 < lifeless> just FYI, pqm is down
[01:57] <lifeless> 11:47 < lifeless> its not slow, its got a bug with the current merge
[01:57] <lifeless> 11:47 < lifeless> I am investigating
[01:57] <salgado> lifeless, ta
[01:58] <Kinnison> lifeless: whose merge?
[01:58] <lifeless> idunno
[01:58] <kiko> lifeless, mpool and I found a bug in merging today too
[01:58] <kiko> so perhaps catch up to ensure it's not the same one
[01:58] <lifeless> what is the bug ?
[01:59] <kiko> it seems to conflict when merging branches with different ancestries
[01:59] <kiko> mpool may understand or describe the problem better
[01:59] <Kinnison> ciao all
[01:59] <Alinux> I've uploated a .po file , then I refresh pakages % of done translation, and nothing... still shows old resultats
[01:59] <Alinux> hello, I'm interested to translate,ubuntu text installer...what's templates exact name ?
[02:00] <lifeless> Kinnison: please prod mpool at #bzr
[02:02] <lifeless> what the units of a datetime - datetime result ?
[02:02] <lifeless> nm
[02:03] <Alinux> hello, I'm interested to translate,ubuntu text installer...what's templates or packages exact name ?
[02:04] <lifeless> hi Alinux , you may have more luck on #ubuntu-devel, where the developers of the installer hang out
[02:04] <Alinux> lifeless, :) thanks bro
[02:08] <Alinux> Administrator help needed. debian-installer has not yet been setup for translation through Rosetta.
[02:08] <lifeless> carlos: ^^^
[02:08] <Alinux> I can't translate it... (I'm logged in in lauchpad and I'm administrator of Georgian Translators Team)
[07:12] <sivang> anybody awake ?
[07:43] <cprov> sivang: yes, but I hope just for the next 5 min ;)
[01:37] <lifeless> conasdasdasd
[01:43] <LarstiQ> moin lifeless 
[02:18] <kiko-zzz> ran ran
[03:28] <koke> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/helpful-help
[03:28] <koke> the link in the review box makes the right column too wide
[03:38] <lifeless> jblack: the branch listing file will look like this:
[03:38] <lifeless> http://whynot.launchpad.server.com/ kamion +junk feature2
[03:38] <lifeless> http://not.launchpad.server.com/ kamion +junk feature
[03:39] <lifeless> url, user, productname, branchname
[03:39] <lifeless> ascii, space delimited
[03:52] <lifeless> stub: ping
[03:56] <mdz> approximately when will production be available again?
[03:59] <lifeless> let me see
[04:00] <lifeless> not too long, just sorting a small rollout issue
[04:02] <jblack>  lifless: Thanks
[04:03] <spiv_> lifeless: I have the SFTP SupermirrorFilesystemHierarchy stuff working for at least simple stuff on my laptop.
[04:03] <jblack> spiv: Are you here? Physicaly?
[04:04] <spiv> jblack: I said hello to you at breakfast.
[04:04] <jblack> I mean are you in this room. :) 
[04:04] <sivang> remorning all
[04:04] <jblack> Oh,k I see you
[04:05] <spiv> Oh, right :)
[04:05] <sivang> launchpad's down?
[04:10] <ddaa> lifeless: mpool: merging my branch with rocketfuel takes approximately ages
[04:10] <ddaa> I'm going to get rid of all my history relative to rocketfuel, and save the current branches for you to diagnose the problem later.
[04:11] <lifeless> ddaa: whoa there 
[04:11] <ddaa> sorry it's just uselessly slow
[04:11] <ddaa> cannot put that in the review system, it's going to DoS
[04:13] <ddaa> Already wasted too many hours waiting for that stuff. Cannot afford any more unless you are willing to negociate a few days delay with the boss.
[04:14] <lifeless> ddaa: please, calma  little
[04:14] <lifeless> ddaa: whats the current status, what is merged with what, what are the urls ?
[04:14] <lifeless> I have a branch with more stuff, should I merge your code into it ?
[04:15] <ddaa> got my branch merged with both your bling and rocketfuel in /home/warthogs/archives/david/launchpad/branches
[04:16] <lifeless> ddaa: and where are you? there is a lp meeting in Muguete
[04:17] <ddaa> coming
[05:00] <mick_home> is there rss and ical support in launchpad somewhere?
[05:00] <mick_home> I'd like to add my dev blog under my "homepage"
[05:01] <mick_home> and i'd like others to be able to subscribe to my calendar
[05:02] <kiko> hmmm
[05:02] <kiko> mick_home, not yet, though it's a pretty cool idea
[05:02] <mick_home> kiko: you the same kiko that I know from moznet?
[05:02] <kiko> there can be only one
[05:02] <kiko> yeah, I'm there 
[05:03] <mick_home> ah cool
[05:03] <mick_home> I'm a bugzilla qa guy ;-)
[05:03] <kiko> so jamesh wrote the initial calendar feature
[05:03] <kiko> heh, rock on
[05:03] <mick_home> where can i get the src to launchpad? I'll add ical support (I have experience with it)
[05:04] <kiko> mick_home, there's no source code publically available yet
[05:04] <mick_home> ah ok
[05:04] <kiko> which makes it harder to contribute
[05:04] <mick_home> :-/
[05:04] <mick_home> i see
[05:04] <mick_home> i'm trying to find a good way to collaborate ClamWin translations
[05:04] <kiko> if you're really interested we can get some hoops to jump through
[05:04] <mick_home> and well, it has been a disaster so far
[05:04] <kiko> clamwin -- for clamav?
[05:04] <mick_home> ya
[05:04] <kiko> aha
[05:05] <kiko> tell me about your issue?
[05:05] <mick_home> I'm project admin - and I'm responsible for over 30 guys translating
[05:05] <kiko> okay
[05:05] <kiko> so what trouble do you have coordinating?
[05:06] <mick_home> it has been hell between the CMS (Joomla), and the other project admin wanting to keep everything at sf.net - currently everyone just emails me the files that they have translated
[05:06] <mick_home> and everyone does "reply-all" to say "I want to work on XYZ"
[05:06] <kiko> I see
[05:06] <kiko> why don't you use rosetta to coordinate?
[05:06] <kiko> it's quite easy to set up
[05:07] <kiko> I can get you some time with jordi to describe how translation teams work
[05:07] <mick_home> there are like 20 files being translated, along w/ the website... which we need to wait for Alex to finish joom!fish (mabelfish for joomla)
[05:07] <kiko> 20 different templates, then?
[05:08] <mick_home> its just a mess ;-)
[05:08] <kiko> heh
[05:08] <mick_home> plus, people are emailing html files back and forth
[05:08] <kiko> oh
[05:08] <kiko> it doesn't use gettext?
[05:08] <mick_home> since there is no i18n support for joomla yet
[05:08] <mick_home> no
[05:08] <kiko> oh :-(
[05:08] <mick_home> clamwin isn't fully internationalized yet (my fault again)
[05:09] <kiko> mmmm
[05:09] <mick_home> kiko: as i said, we need to wait for the next version of Joomla
[05:09] <mick_home> so the new version of the clamwin site will be just english
[05:09] <mick_home> which sucks but what the hell
[05:09] <kiko> yeah
[05:10] <mick_home> so, currently people are just translating strings
[05:10] <mick_home> since the gettext thing isn't done yet
[05:11] <mick_home> i have other build problems because of a change in python's wxWidgets binding
[05:11] <mick_home> but thats another story
[05:11] <mick_home> ;-)
[05:12] <mick_home> kiko: the biggest thing that people want from me is a dev blog and a way to collaborate translations easily w/ launchpad
[05:12] <mick_home> since noone except me knows how to use cvs
[05:12] <mick_home> kiko: so rss support would be nice 
[05:13] <mick_home> ;-)
[05:15] <mick_home> if you have any suggestions, comments etc. come on in to #clamwin and also let me know if I can actually help with launchpad development 
[05:16] <mick_home> but it looks like launchpad has problems of it's own :-)
[05:16] <mick_home> see ya
[05:24] <highvoltage> did launchpad just change to a new version?
[05:25] <SteveA> yes
[05:28] <Mithrandir> is there any reason why the "needs discussion" flag seem to have been reset?
[05:30] <kiko> Mithrandir, for your spec?
[05:33] <Mithrandir> kiko: yes, examples are media-integrity-check (I just reset it)
[05:33] <kiko> Mithrandir, uhm, hmmm. stub, what did mark's landing change in terms of the database?
[05:36] <carlos> lifeless, hi, around?
[05:36] <carlos> mpool, or you?
[05:37] <highvoltage> new launchpad is nice
[05:38] <kiko> Mithrandir, was it simply reset, or is setting/unsetting it broken?
[05:39] <highvoltage> hehe. if i toggle the order of "category" in launchpad it moves 'Total' with it
[05:42] <Mithrandir> kiko: it was reset.
[05:42] <Mithrandir> kiko: changing it again seems to work
[05:43] <kiko> Mithrandir, argh.
[05:51] <LarstiQ> launchpad feels faster, but that could just be my connection
[05:56] <stub> kiko: Karma and spec stuff
[06:02] <salgado> stub, we're getting timeouts sometimes, with https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/filemgVhCp.html
[06:02] <salgado> can we optimize it?
[06:03] <stub> salgado: I'll have a look in  a tick
[06:11] <lifeless> carlos: yes
[06:11] <lifeless> kiko: ping
[06:13] <carlos> lifeless, well, It's just that I'm trying to get a full checkout with bzr and seems like takes ages without any kind of feedback
[06:13] <carlos> lifeless, scott told me that's normal and that it should take one hour and a half or so
[06:13] <lifeless> carlos: are you using the recipe on MoveToBazNG wiki page ?
[06:13] <carlos> lifeless, no https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/RocketFuelSetup
[06:13] <carlos> lifeless, as it's a fresh checkout
[06:14] <lifeless> carlos: have a look otn MoveToBazNG
[06:14] <carlos> ok
[06:14] <carlos> lifeless, thanks
[06:15] <carlos> lifeless, hmm, the commands are the same
[06:15] <carlos> lifeless, my problem is with cm.py build lp-configs/configs/canonical.com/launchpad/development
[06:16] <lifeless> yes, but there is an rsync recipe on movetobazng
[06:16] <kiko> lifeless, pong
[06:16] <lifeless> which is much faster
[06:16] <carlos> lifeless, I only have a 'launchpad' directory with a .bzr subdirectory inside that seems like didn't get any new information since 10 minutes ago
[06:16] <lifeless> kiko: you have conflicts issues? want to look at them with me ?
[06:17] <carlos> lifeless, ok
[06:17] <kiko> yes, shortly.
[06:17] <kiko> lifeless, hang on
[06:17] <kiko> finishing my current session
[06:17] <lifeless> carlos: the new info goes into .bzr/weaves and .bzr/revision-store
[06:18] <carlos> lifeless, those are empty (ls -la says they are empty)
[06:18] <lifeless> carlos: probably still downloading inventory weave then, its 30Mb
[06:18] <carlos> that's why I wonder if the checkout is not working
[06:18] <lifeless> carlos, patience!
[06:18] <carlos> lifeless, yeah, I only have 14MB
[06:18] <carlos> lifeless, ok...
[06:18] <carlos> ;-)
[06:22] <erchache> hi
[06:22] <erchache> any admin of launchpad here?
[06:22] <kiko> yes
[06:22] <kiko> what's up?
[06:22] <erchache> kiko: do you speak spanish?
[06:22] <erchache> carlos perello esta aqui?
[06:23] <spiv> carlos is around somewhere...
[06:23] <carlos> erchache, I'm Carlos Perell
[06:23] <erchache> en privadito
[06:23] <carlos> ok
[06:30] <\sh> guys...short question...do u have any possibility to export the LP user auth db somehow to LDAP?
[06:31] <spiv> \sh: Mmm.
[06:31] <spiv> We don't have that at the moment.
[06:31] <spiv> Potentially we could hack something up.
[06:32] <\sh> spiv: it was just an idea that i had yesterday when I read jdubs default content spec
[06:32] <spiv> \sh: got a link to that?
[06:33] <\sh> spiv: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/example-content
[06:33] <spiv> Ta.
[06:34] <\sh> spiv: the important stuff was the "do some random accounts on a jabber server" ,) which could be solved, if we provide an ubuntu jabber service, combine it with a ldap auth server
[06:35] <spiv> Jabber doesn't inherently require ldap though.
[06:36] <spiv> I suspect it would be easier to make the jabber server talk xml-rpc to our existing authserver than try to make our auth database fit sanely into ldap.
[06:36] <\sh> spiv: well...depends on the implementation...
[06:36] <spiv> I think it would be possible to do LDAP (e.g. using the ldaptor library for Twisted), but it would be a fair bit of work.
[06:37] <\sh> spiv: jabberd2 can do some xmlrpc magic auth, for sure, but it's not what we would use...
[06:37] <\sh> spiv: have to check if ejabberd (erlang stuff) is able to do some xmlrpc magic
[06:41] <salgado> Kinnison, does gina stores information about the Uploaders field somewhere?
[06:41] <fabbione> mpool: ???
[06:41] <fabbione> kiko: ping?
[06:42] <kiko> fabbione, pong?
[06:43] <kiko> salgado, we don't store it separately, but we do store it with the DSC text.
[06:43] <fabbione> kiko: we can't find mpool for the LP bof.
[06:43] <kiko> is there something important to consider there?
[06:43] <fabbione> kiko: do you know where he is?
[06:43] <kiko> fabbione, I'll find him for you.
[06:43] <fabbione> kiko: thanks
[06:44] <kiko> I've pushed him your way, he was just outside the door
[06:50] <salgado> kiko, how hard do you think it is to store this information?
[06:50] <highvoltage> Launchpad is going down for maintenance NOW!
[06:50] <kiko> salgado, not hard, but we need to change the schema for it
[06:52] <highvoltage> :)
[06:54] <bradb> SteveA: do you have a patch for that login bug which causes the "The requested page is protected. You will need to login." message?
[06:54] <SteveA> yes and no
[06:54] <SteveA> i have a patch for the error page being unhelpful
[06:54] <SteveA> we need to work on a spec for exactly how to solve it, next week
[06:54] <SteveA> oh
[06:54] <SteveA> hang on
[06:54] <SteveA> i'm talking about a different error
[06:55] <SteveA> that's a stub error
[06:55] <SteveA> stub stub stub stub stu
[06:55] <SteveA> b
[06:55] <bradb> CAN WE FIX THAT TODAY OOPSS CAPSLCKAa@*
[06:55] <stub> Bug # ?
[06:56] <bradb> i don't know that there's a bug open for it
[06:56] <SteveA> no bug, no cookie
[06:58] <bradb> stub: oh, no, it's already open. #3588.
[06:58] <stub> Bug 3588
[06:58] <Ubugtu> Malone bug #3588: I'm told I have to log in, right after I've been logged in Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Steve Alexander, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/3588
[07:04] <carlos> sabdfl, I suppose is ok to use chinstrap to convert our old bazaar branches if pqm's queue is empty, right?
[07:05] <SteveA> carlos: better to do it at night
[07:05] <SteveA> there are new requests coming in every so often
[07:06] <SteveA> if you need a specific branch, the convert that branch
[07:06] <carlos> ok
[07:13] <carlos> salgado, ping
[07:18] <carlos> lifeless: I got an error migrating a branch: https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/fileUHxqFM.html
[08:41] <kiko> salgado, did the converstion stop running?
[08:56] <smurfix> Am I doing something wrong, or do I just not have the rights to change specs' status in launchpad yet (I'm a reviewer)?
[09:08] <jamesh> lifeless: ping?
[09:10] <salgado> kiko, yes
[09:11] <salgado> lifeless, salgado@chinstrap [salgado] $ /home/warthogs/source/bzr.integration/bzr baz-import-branch guilherme.salgado@canonical.com/launchpad/13/smallfixes guilherme.salgado@canonical.com/launchpad--smallfixes--13 ../rocketfuel
[09:11] <salgado> bzr: ERROR: Parent of "/home/warthogs/archives/salgado/guilherme.salgado@canonical.com/launchpad/13/smallfixes" does not exist.
[09:12] <jamesh> koke: why don't you like blue?
[09:12] <kiko> lifeless, fun for the world
[09:13] <lifeless> salgado: mkdir .../13
[09:13] <lifeless> kiko: ?
[09:13] <lifeless> jamesh: pong
[09:15] <jamesh> lifeless: I got a UnicodeEncodeError when trying to commit after merging from rocketfuel.  Any ideas about how to debug that?
[09:15] <jamesh> https://launchpad.net/products/bzr/+bug/3823 <- the exception details
[09:15] <Ubugtu> Malone bug #3823: UnicodeEncodeError from "bzr commit" Fix req. for: bzr (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/3823
[09:16] <lifeless> jamesh: can you chat with mpool ?
[09:16] <lifeless> or abentley
[09:16] <jamesh> sure.
[09:25] <Mithrandir> could we have something else than yellow on white for "Needs review"?  It's a bit hard to read.
[09:27] <koke> jamesh: actually I like blue, it's just to be consistent with the distro
[10:35] <stu1> SteveA: Where are the page tests for the login machinery, in particular the 'you don't have permission so here is the login form' bit
[11:14] <Kinnison>         return sorted(bpklist, key=lambda a: a.binarypackagename.name)
[11:14] <Kinnison> oh dear god
[11:15] <SteveA> remember that sortKey() stuff that was specced a while back?
[11:16] <Kinnison> yes
[11:16] <Kinnison> Can we have it please?
[11:59] <elmo> where's this moin patch?
[12:01] <spiv> elmo: I have it.
[12:01] <spiv> elmo: mirroring it to chinstrap atm.
[12:01] <elmo> ok
[12:02] <spiv> elmo: It's andrew.bennetts@canonical.com/moin--MoinLaunchpadAuthentication--0--patch-45.  There's a patch-46 improves the comments slightly.
[12:03] <spiv> elmo: mirrored.