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| hub | I just create the MOTUPhoto in wiki and its team in Launchpad | 12:25 |
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| magnon | oh! I'm in! | 12:37 |
| magnon | dude | 12:37 |
| magnon | hub | 12:38 |
| magnon | you called it MOTOPhoto ;) | 12:38 |
| ajmitch | hey magnon | 12:38 |
| ajmitch | oh? | 12:38 |
| === ajmitch really doesn't like teams with names as generic as that - we run into namespace conflicts with launchpad | ||
| ajmitch | as it's meant to eventually be for multiple distros | 12:39 |
| magnon | hub: I renamed it to MOTUPhoto | 12:39 |
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| Mez | hub - Photo Team ? | 12:41 |
| mindwarp | anyone used x2x before? | 12:41 |
| tseng | no, I use synergy | 12:42 |
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| tseng | it works with windows and has a clipboard | 12:43 |
| mindwarp | yeah I got synergy to work no problem, just can't figure out x2x | 12:45 |
| tseng | im not sure why you would want to | 12:45 |
| mindwarp | oh purely out of challenge now | 12:45 |
| mindwarp | I tried it before synergy | 12:45 |
| mindwarp | and I dont want it to "defeat" me | 12:46 |
| tseng | im happy to be defeated | 12:46 |
| tseng | and laze away with my superior solution | 12:46 |
| mindwarp | hehe | 12:46 |
| mindwarp | wowz | 12:50 |
| mindwarp | err didnt mean the z | 12:50 |
| mindwarp | but that shared clipboard is amazing | 12:50 |
| magnon | I have answered hub's creation and made https://launchpad.net/people/proaudio-team ;) | 12:50 |
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| hub | magnon: gah. thanks | 01:18 |
| hub | for the renaming | 01:18 |
| hub | I suck at typing | 01:18 |
| magnon | hehe | 01:19 |
| hub | magnon: I have to fix the MOTUTeam page | 01:21 |
| magnon | MOTUTeams :) | 01:21 |
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| YokoZar | I added 3 packages to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MorgueCandidates that should be removed from Breezy universe. Is this doable? | 01:23 |
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| LaserJock | YokoZar: I seriously doubt that they would be removed from Breezy, maybe for Dapper but I don't know if MorgueCandidates is really operational | 01:32 |
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| Lathiat | shawarma: yeh | 01:38 |
| Lathiat | shawarma: give or take | 01:38 |
| Lathiat | shawarma: if i put the brightness down | 01:39 |
| Lathiat | shawarma: and the hard drive doesnt spin up too much | 01:39 |
| Lathiat | shawarma: i got >5 once | 01:39 |
| YokoZar | LaserJock: Well, winesetuptk in breezy universe actually conflicts with the wine package in breezy universe. All it's doing is confusing people. | 01:50 |
| YokoZar | The package serves literally no purpose. | 01:50 |
| LaserJock | YokoZar: well, I'm not positive but I don't think there is anything that can be done for Breezy. Once it is released it is released unles is is something really critical | 01:52 |
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| farruinn | crimsun: my apologies for the debdiff I gave you on Saturady night. I didn't realize at the time that there would be no updates to breezy. Solfege won't compile in dapper yet because python2.4-gnome2-extras depends on libnautilus-burn3 which doesn't exist yet | 02:43 |
| farruinn | (actually it's -burn3 that's needed, it currently depends on -burn2) | 02:44 |
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| Kyral | I see another typo has hit the buglist | 02:54 |
| Kyral | I'll handle it, seems to be my speciality :P | 02:54 |
| Kyral | hey Mez, for 3658 should I patch Dapper or Breezy? | 03:00 |
| Mez | latest | 03:00 |
| Kyral | so see if Sid has it... | 03:00 |
| Kyral | Yah Dapper has it, same as Sid | 03:01 |
| Kyral | Actually its fixed in the Dapper version | 03:03 |
| Kyral | Should I comment and Reject? | 03:03 |
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| Kyral | and Launchpad died again... | 03:07 |
| Kyral | I dunno, it doesn't like me today | 03:07 |
| whiprush | Mez: around? | 03:09 |
| mindwarp | whiprush - i think fridge should be wiki format until the "final edition" which would be posted on ubuntuforums | 03:21 |
| mindwarp | any good reasons why it isnt? | 03:21 |
| whiprush | not really | 03:22 |
| whiprush | I think people putting articles on the wiki and then having the fridge just link to them would be cool though | 03:22 |
| whiprush | since it'd look pretty similar. | 03:22 |
| mindwarp | ah there is a good idea | 03:22 |
| mindwarp | especially since it is already implemented | 03:22 |
| whiprush | work is being done for more forums/wiki integration though | 03:22 |
| whiprush | we have a spec on the wiki someplace with the crazy ideas | 03:23 |
| mindwarp | gotcha | 03:23 |
| whiprush | just plop some in there if you have any more | 03:23 |
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| crimsun | farruinn: ok, no prob | 04:14 |
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| LaserJock | dang, I can't last more than a couple minutes in #ubuntu | 04:43 |
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| crimsun | in terms of? | 04:52 |
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| LaserJock | crimsun: I get a headache | 04:54 |
| crimsun | heh | 04:55 |
| farruinn | LaserJock: http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~horkana/junkmail/despair-linux/debian.jpg | 04:55 |
| farruinn | LaserJock: /ignore * JOINS QUITS helps | 04:55 |
| LaserJock | farruinn: does that work on a channel by channel basis? | 04:56 |
| farruinn | funny, I was just wondering that myself :) | 04:56 |
| farruinn | I guess you'd have to check your client docs | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | hola \sh | 04:57 |
| LaserJock | man, I think it takes a special kind of person to be able to handle all that noise | 05:00 |
| \sh | LaserJock: evening :) | 05:03 |
| \sh | LaserJock: and no...we're really not up for noise today | 05:03 |
| \sh | all tired | 05:03 |
| LaserJock | how goes UBZ? | 05:03 |
| \sh | LaserJock: it's great.. | 05:04 |
| \sh | some new crack is being discussed here | 05:05 |
| \sh | and all the people here, including siretart and I, are working like hell | 05:05 |
| LaserJock | yeah, sounds like it | 05:06 |
| magnon | crack? what crack :) | 05:06 |
| magnon | I've just heard some ssh forwarded devices for sound, and removing all the menus :D | 05:07 |
| \sh | magnon: NOT CRACK!!! new nifty crack ,) | 05:07 |
| siretart | polly wanna cracker? | 05:07 |
| LaserJock | I saw some pics today and read some summaries. I got kinda envious | 05:07 |
| magnon | give it to jdub | 05:07 |
| siretart | - CRACK *caugh* POLLY WANT CRACK!! *caugh* | 05:07 |
| siretart | magnon: are you aware about this jack transition in debian? | 05:08 |
| magnon | nope | 05:08 |
| magnon | what's their crack? | 05:08 |
| magnon | I never touched upon debian for these things, I just read debian-legal for fun sometimes :-P | 05:09 |
| siretart | hehe | 05:10 |
| siretart | magnon: well, as far as I understood it, they changed soname, so everything depending on it needs to be recompiled | 05:10 |
| siretart | but there may be more issues | 05:10 |
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| magnon | aha | 05:12 |
| magnon | well, does that bother me? :) | 05:12 |
| siretart | magnon: perhaps you should ask pitti, see also his comment on this bug: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12212 | 05:12 |
| siretart | perhaps, I'm not sure. would need to take a closer look | 05:12 |
| magnon | silly debian dependency :P | 05:13 |
| magnon | I'll talk to him tomorrow | 05:13 |
| magnon | and look at jack itself, most of all | 05:13 |
| magnon | the good thing though, is that this bug is the only one filed against jack ;) | 05:14 |
| crimsun | heh. Just wait til you see everything that build-deps on libjack0.80.0-dev | 05:15 |
| crimsun | trust me, we'll need to have a JACK mini-transition | 05:15 |
| magnon | sounds like fun | 05:15 |
| crimsun | and we'll need to wait for a main uploader, probably Martin, to perform the merge>upload | 05:15 |
| magnon | I'm also seeing that gst-jack is pending removal | 05:16 |
| magnon | that shouldn't happen | 05:16 |
| crimsun | it should be removed | 05:16 |
| crimsun | upstream is completely reworking JACK support afaik | 05:16 |
| magnon | hm, ok | 05:16 |
| magnon | in that case, sure | 05:16 |
| \sh | crimsun: siretart can prepare now the main upload ,-) | 05:16 |
| crimsun | JACK support in 0.6 and 0.8 is cracked | 05:17 |
| magnon | I know | 05:17 |
| crimsun | \sh: oh, excellent! | 05:17 |
| === ajmitch wouldn't mind being able to upload :) | ||
| crimsun | I joined -meeting too late to be able to see, but congrats, siretart :-) | 05:17 |
| magnon | I remember just using alsasink/dmix and never caring | 05:17 |
| \sh | ajmitch: u get your key stuff sorted out..please talk to magnon about the right utilities etc. to prepare a good keysigning party :) | 05:17 |
| ajmitch | \sh: you assume I know anything about keysigning & how to run it | 05:18 |
| \sh | ajmitch: well...actually i thought so :) | 05:19 |
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| \sh | ajmitch: because i'm the guy which is using gpg cli | 05:19 |
| crimsun | heh, I'm organizing the one in two weeks when jdub visits | 05:19 |
| ajmitch | \sh: I just saw that the script I was trying to use earlier needs fixed to set the right secret key | 05:22 |
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| magnon | hey hub | 05:22 |
| hub | hi | 05:23 |
| magnon | any nice pictures from my camera? :p | 05:23 |
| hub | I have to process them | 05:23 |
| hub | but I'm tempted to say that they are better than mine | 05:24 |
| hub | I really need to get a 50mm f1.4 | 05:24 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: have you seen signing-party ? | 05:24 |
| hub | btw, what were the settings? | 05:24 |
| hub | and I DHL tried to deliver my Nokia | 05:24 |
| hub | :-((((( | 05:25 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: hmm? | 05:25 |
| magnon | the settings? 1/90 and f/2.8 I think | 05:25 |
| magnon | ISO1600 | 05:26 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: for key signing parties | 05:26 |
| hub | magnon: sounds the usual | 05:26 |
| hub | magnon: most were at 1/60 f2 | 05:26 |
| hub | magnon: you were set a f2 and I switched to manual | 05:26 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: possibly... | 05:27 |
| hub | magnon: definitely the viewfinder is nice | 05:27 |
| magnon | it says in the metadata if you use exiftool | 05:27 |
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| magnon | hub: oh, ok, I thought it was 1/90 but I remembered 1/60, but it's crack to use 1/60 with a 50mm ;) | 05:27 |
| magnon | the viewfinder is very nice, yes :) | 05:27 |
| hub | yep I shoud try to use my own packages :-) | 05:27 |
| hub | ExifTool still hasn't been uploaded :-/ | 05:28 |
| hub | holy fsck | 05:28 |
| magnon | I should have to package some nef utilities | 05:28 |
| hub | magnon: I have some in the pipe | 05:28 |
| magnon | I think siretart has a bit much to do to upload packages :) | 05:28 |
| siretart | thanks crimsun | 05:28 |
| ajmitch | hub: this is why we are rewriting revu - so that we can manage this more easily :) | 05:28 |
| hub | ajmitch: make sense :-) | 05:30 |
| siretart | there is the cabot package that could be useful | 05:31 |
| hub | ajmitch: or gimme the upload privileges now that a/ GPG key is signed b/ I signed the code of conduct :-) | 05:31 |
| magnon | hub: you'd have to be approved as MOTU though | 05:31 |
| magnon | which has to be done by... who again? | 05:31 |
| ajmitch | hub: haha | 05:31 |
| ajmitch | tech board :) | 05:31 |
| magnon | tech board. right | 05:31 |
| ajmitch | first you become a member at the CC meeting | 05:32 |
| === ajmitch can't recall if you are... | ||
| hub | I'm not AFAIK | 05:32 |
| ajmitch | hub: none of us here can give upload privilges | 05:32 |
| Sepheebear | hey anybody up for answering a python packaging question? | 05:32 |
| === \sh tries to sleep now...good night dudes...cu tomorrow | ||
| ajmitch | \sh: signed keys should be in your mailbox - you should decrypt & import each | 05:33 |
| ajmitch | night \sh_away | 05:33 |
| magnon | night \sh | 05:33 |
| ajmitch | hub: I should be able to do yours as well now | 05:33 |
| siretart | gn8 | 05:33 |
| Sepheebear | im working with a package "pympd": http://pympd.sourceforge.de | 05:33 |
| ajmitch | siretart: and I found your fingerprint also | 05:34 |
| siretart | ajmitch: great. I'll sign your key tomorrow, need some sleep now | 05:35 |
| Sepheebear | the package installs icon.png and glade files inside /usr/lib instead of /usr/share | 05:35 |
| Sepheebear | how can i work around that to make the package lintian clean? | 05:35 |
| LaserJock | siretart: is there a plan for REVU2 for a version column perhaps? | 05:39 |
| === hub has just removed dozen of spam out of the abiword wiki | ||
| hub | ajmitch: it is fine. I'll do what is needed to be accepted. these are the rules :-) | 05:41 |
| ajmitch | hub: hopefully if you check your inbox you'll have encrypted messages from me.. decrypt & import to get your signed keys | 05:42 |
| hub | ajmitch: seen it | 05:45 |
| hub | done | 05:45 |
| hub | about to send the key | 05:46 |
| ajmitch | ok | 05:47 |
| LaserJock | I am interested in having a MOTUScience team? Is there any interest? | 05:53 |
| minghua | LaserJock: I'm interested, but I doubt I can contribute much | 05:54 |
| LaserJock | Is it necessary to get a MOTU on board to form a team? Seems like it would | 05:56 |
| hub | ajmitch: btw, what script do you use to send signed keys? | 05:56 |
| minghua | I believe so | 05:56 |
| magnon | LaserJock: No | 05:57 |
| magnon | LaserJock: Both me and hub created teams today :P | 05:57 |
| magnon | it's just that you won't have pakcages in automatically | 05:58 |
| ajmitch | hub: one from pitti, he provided it at UDU iirc | 05:58 |
| ajmitch | did it send the right key? :) | 05:58 |
| LaserJock | magnon: how did you do it? | 05:59 |
| magnon | LaserJock: launchpad, create team, made a wikipage | 05:59 |
| hub | ajmitch: yeah it did. | 05:59 |
| hub | ajmitch: I was not at UDU | 05:59 |
| hub | ajmitch: perhaps one should package this script | 06:00 |
| ajmitch | it used to be on the wiki, will hopefully put it up somewhere tomorrow | 06:00 |
| hub | magnon: btw, what is that metering mode you use by default on the Nikon | 06:08 |
| crimsun | Sepheebear: mv them in debian/rules before the deb is built | 06:09 |
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| hub | Kyral: yes | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: I saw your earlier comments about generic naming of teams? Could you elaborate a little bit on that? | 06:10 |
| hub | Kyral: that would be interesting anyway | 06:10 |
| Kyral | At my school :D | 06:10 |
| Sepheebear | let me know if you do Kyral, I could use it | 06:10 |
| hub | Kyral: still | 06:10 |
| Kyral | Yah I know | 06:10 |
| Kyral | I just need like time | 06:10 |
| Kyral | We ARE doing a quasi-installfest thing this weekend though :D | 06:11 |
| Sepheebear | crimsun: the app breaks if i move them | 06:11 |
| LaserJock | I found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey useful when I was trying to get my key signed | 06:13 |
| crimsun | Sepheebear: the source needs to be patched | 06:13 |
| Kyral | Yah I have my signed | 06:13 |
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| hub | LaserJock: yeah. read that | 06:15 |
| === Kyral wonders what logos he should use for the install day | ||
| Sepheebear | another thing, moving them before the deb is built means adding the mv lines to install: or binary: ? | 06:16 |
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| LaserJock | ajmitch: ping? | 06:23 |
| === hub think about switching to dapper | ||
| Kyral | Dapper is fun :D | 06:24 |
| hub | yep | 06:24 |
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| hub | and I'll get the debian resync | 06:25 |
| hub | so I can try to have fun with ufraw | 06:25 |
| === Kyral blinks? | ||
| schweeb | lol, nice how that gnusolaris thing spammed the ubuntu-devel list with their announcement | 06:28 |
| LaserJock | minghua: still around? | 06:36 |
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| tritium | jbailey, I saw you're assigned a bug for the gnome clock applet. Is it possible to configure it to show the first day of the week as Sunday? | 06:41 |
| === tritium wonders why this is marked fixed: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314473 | ||
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| zakame | hi all | 06:45 |
| LaserJock | if anybody is interested I just made a MOTUScience team on launchapd (https://launchpad.net/people/motuscience/) | 07:02 |
| tritium | right on, LaserJock :) | 07:05 |
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| zakame | w00t! | 07:05 |
| zakame | hmmm, does an upstream version be numbers only, or can letters be included, like 1.4.0.b9? I'm asking because libmemcache has that particular version... | 07:11 |
| LaserJock | zakame: is that in Debian? | 07:14 |
| crimsun | upstream is generally everything in front of the first hyphen | 07:14 |
| zakame | LaserJock: nope, new package in progress | 07:15 |
| zakame | yes, generally... | 07:16 |
| zakame | ... I was doing a debuild of libmemcache, it fails to generate a .diff.gz, even if the .tar.gz's already in ../ | 07:16 |
| zakame | AH! WAIT | 07:16 |
| zakame | it should be .orig.tar.gz... | 07:17 |
| crimsun | precisely | 07:17 |
| crimsun | package_upstreamVersion.orig.tar.gz | 07:17 |
| zakame | yeah... I had to repackage the source, it originally was a .tar.bz2 | 07:18 |
| zakame | ah, heaven, a .diff.gz generated :) thanks guys :D | 07:19 |
| zakame | can't I use a orig.tar.bz2 upon package build? | 07:29 |
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| pef | hello | 08:06 |
| LaserJock | hi | 08:07 |
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| === zyga says morning | ||
| === LaserJock says good evening ;-) (at least for another hour) | ||
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| LaserJock | welcome back minghua | 08:22 |
| minghua | LaserJock: Hi I'm back | 08:22 |
| minghua | :-) | 08:22 |
| LaserJock | minghua: so are you in a science field? | 08:24 |
| minghua | LaserJock: yes, I'm a graduate student major in materials science | 08:25 |
| LaserJock | master or phd? | 08:25 |
| minghua | phd | 08:26 |
| LaserJock | sweet, I am 4th year physical chemistry grad student | 08:27 |
| minghua | cool. | 08:29 |
| minghua | LaserJock: so you want to organize a MOTUscience, are you subscribed to debian-science mailing list now? | 08:30 |
| LaserJock | yes | 08:30 |
| minghua | what are you planning to do with this MOTU? | 08:30 |
| minghua | the science-related packages are just too diverse, from what I see | 08:31 |
| LaserJock | well, I think that we need so science advacacy within MOTU and perhaps get some new packages built for ubuntu. | 08:31 |
| minghua | for example, I don't use KDE, so a lot of plotting tools they discussed are new to me, and I don't know R at all | 08:31 |
| minghua | LaserJock: that's always a good thing, sure | 08:32 |
| LaserJock | well, I don't know that we have to "use" every tool just keep an eye on things and do the best we can | 08:32 |
| minghua | and I think altough I can't do much packaging work, porting is relatively easy | 08:32 |
| minghua | and maybe a FAQ/Howto to tell people "you can get these science related packages in ubuntu" | 08:33 |
| LaserJock | there is some discussion on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29919 about people wanting to get newer packages out | 08:33 |
| minghua | I think debian-science people would like to see such a thing as well | 08:33 |
| LaserJock | I think it would be good to let people put their time where their mouth ;-) | 08:34 |
| LaserJock | +is | 08:34 |
| minghua | yeah, good point | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | I think it is harder in Debian because I get the feeling they want Maintainers whereas Ubuntu wants Contributors | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | that is my feeling anyway | 08:35 |
| LaserJock | if REVU2 takes off then it will be fairly simple for people to contribute | 08:36 |
| minghua | sometimes people talks too much. <rant>this also happens for chinese localization</rant> | 08:36 |
| minghua | yes, I feel ubuntu is more open to contributors as well | 08:36 |
| minghua | and that's a major point that attracts me | 08:37 |
| LaserJock | well, I do think it is hard when people aren't given much of a chance to help | 08:37 |
| minghua | yes, but someone have to step up to do the organization work | 08:38 |
| LaserJock | yeah ;-) | 08:38 |
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| LaserJock | well, I am trying to also work on some better MOTU wiki documentation so people might have a better chance at learning to package and contribute | 08:39 |
| LaserJock | for me as long as I am given some documentation, I can do OK. I just need some organization. | 08:41 |
| rob^ | LaserJock, we (the docteam) are looking at including that in our svn repo | 08:41 |
| rob^ | its going to be spec'ed soon I beleave | 08:41 |
| LaserJock | rob^: including developer how-tos and stuff? | 08:42 |
| rob^ | at least a guide to motu | 08:43 |
| rob^ | most likly derived from the wiki one | 08:43 |
| LaserJock | cool, I have a wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/DocTodo going for cleaning and revamping the MOTU wiki | 08:44 |
| rob^ | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-packaging-guide | 08:44 |
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| rob^ | I've been lead to beleave it will have a motu focus | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | that would make sense. I have seen it tossed around but haven't seen much work being done. Maybe I just haven't seen it. I wasn't sure if anything was going to come of it. | 08:47 |
| minghua | rob^: I agree, I think most new ubuntu contributors would start from MOTU first | 08:48 |
| minghua | such a guide would be very helpful | 08:48 |
| LaserJock | rob^: I will keep and eye on that | 08:53 |
| LaserJock | I gotta go to bed right now | 08:53 |
| minghua | good night LaserJock | 08:53 |
| LaserJock | minghua: do you have a launchpad account? | 08:53 |
| minghua | LaserJock: yes, minghua@lauchpad as well | 08:54 |
| LaserJock | you can go to https://launchpad.net/people/motuscience and join the team there | 08:54 |
| minghua | LaserJock: will do | 08:55 |
| LaserJock | good night | 08:55 |
| crimsun | you should con laserjock into making a metapackage for it | 09:02 |
| crimsun | may also wish to check with edubuntu to see if they're planning to support higher ed | 09:03 |
| crimsun | I suspect they're not related, but it doesn't hurt to ask | 09:03 |
| minghua | crimsun: I suppose edubuntu is for, like, under 12? | 09:03 |
| crimsun | elementary and middle schools is my impression | 09:04 |
| crimsun | various US universities have loosely collected portions of scientific software | 09:04 |
| crimsun | "Science" might be better as an entry for more precise packages | 09:05 |
| minghua | I agree it won't hurt to ask, but I am afraid the goal is too different | 09:06 |
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| _Tonio_ | morning | 09:41 |
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| keyes | hello | 10:24 |
| keyes | siretart: are you here? | 10:24 |
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| crimsun | he may be waking up soon | 10:38 |
| crimsun | I think he's at UBZ, though | 10:38 |
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| nailbiter | Hi there. :) I'm a Debian defector who would like to put some work into a couple of Ubuntu packages (and hopefully qualify for mentorship); is there some Wiki page where this is all coordinated? | 10:51 |
| Lathiat | heh debian defector | 10:52 |
| Lathiat | nailbiter: we dont have "mentorship" as such | 10:53 |
| minghua | nailbiter: I believe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU is a good start | 10:53 |
| Lathiat | its more a whole community guided sorta thing | 10:53 |
| Lathiat | and yeh what minghua said | 10:53 |
| minghua | REVU is probably the closest to mentorship | 10:53 |
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| nailbiter | Ok, thanks. I'll read up. :) | 10:55 |
| mitsuhiko | does anyone know if ubuntu.com is down? | 11:01 |
| nailbiter | Seems to be up | 11:02 |
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| siretart | morning folks! | 12:13 |
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| slomo | hi siretart | 12:22 |
| dholbach | hi slomo, siretart | 12:22 |
| slomo | hi dholbach :) | 12:23 |
| slomo | siretart: i'll send a mail about the ffmpeg stuff to -devel later today or tomorrow morning... you remember it? | 12:23 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:dholbach] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | REVU up again: http://revu.tauware.de | We did it - we released Breezy! :) | somebody please help writing up the MOTU report: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUReportDraft | ||
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| siretart | slomo: I very well remember it | 12:36 |
| siretart | slomo: I assume you mainly ask for status update about the ffmpeg issue, right? | 12:37 |
| slomo | siretart: crimsun wanted to help me with it, moving vlc to multiverse etc | 12:37 |
| slomo | siretart: nope... i want to get some attention to that issue to get it done now ;) mailing elmo about it doesn't work... | 12:38 |
| siretart | right now, no | 12:38 |
| slomo | siretart: he probably wants to see comments by other people about it | 12:38 |
| siretart | thats an very good idea | 12:38 |
| siretart | okay, I'll wait for your email, and perhaps bug mdz in person about that | 12:39 |
| slomo | ok, thanks :) | 12:39 |
| slomo | bah... i need coffee :( | 12:42 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 12:44 |
| siretart | huhu sistpoty | 12:44 |
| sistpoty | huhu siretart | 12:44 |
| \sh | moins sistpoty | 12:45 |
| sistpoty | hi \sh | 12:45 |
| sistpoty | what time is it in montreal? | 12:45 |
| siretart | 06:44 | 12:45 |
| \sh | 6:45am | 12:45 |
| siretart | ;) | 12:45 |
| sistpoty | phew, you're up early ;) | 12:45 |
| siretart | we just got up | 12:45 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 12:45 |
| \sh | time for breakfast...when siretart hurries up and have a shower :) | 12:45 |
| siretart | sistpoty: because we need to be at 9am sharp in the meeting room | 12:46 |
| sistpoty | wow | 12:46 |
| siretart | jdub said that it was sharp as in 'bleeding edge' sharp ;) | 12:46 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 12:46 |
| === sistpoty has just been looking at revu2spec progress | ||
| slomo | hi sistpoty | 12:46 |
| sistpoty | hi slomo | 12:47 |
| siretart | sistpoty: yes, I thing the spec is about to be approved, needs some more cleeanups | 12:47 |
| sistpoty | yep | 12:47 |
| sistpoty | btw.: great work you've done so far ;) | 12:48 |
| siretart | sistpoty: I discussed with daniel silverstone about revu3, that one will be dapper+1 and completly integrated into launchpad | 12:48 |
| sistpoty | r0cks! | 12:48 |
| siretart | for revu2, we 'just' use authentication stuff from lp | 12:49 |
| sistpoty | sounds really good so far... and I won't have to worry about user management pages :) | 12:49 |
| siretart | perhaps we'll get another name, but that anyway, we need to keep the code clean, so integration is possible | 12:49 |
| sistpoty | keeping the code clean is always a good idea :) | 12:50 |
| siretart | hehe | 12:51 |
| sistpoty | btw.: you could include some diagrams from revu2 in the spec (or link to them) | 12:52 |
| TMM | owww, revu2? we are going to get new and shiny stuff? :) | 12:52 |
| sistpoty | TMM: yes :) | 12:52 |
| sistpoty | TMM: but imo will still take some time until it's ready | 12:53 |
| TMM | neat | 12:53 |
| TMM | I like new and shiny | 12:53 |
| sistpoty | TMM: http://revu.tauware.de/~sistpoty/revu2/trunk/ <- actually nothing is working yet, but just to get the idea of "shiny" ;) | 12:54 |
| siretart | sistpoty: yes, together with some proposed scetches about the ui | 12:54 |
| siretart | I think I'll have a bit time today for writing more about implementation details, I wanted the design approved first | 12:55 |
| sistpoty | siretart: cool :) | 12:55 |
| siretart | but I think its mostly okay | 12:55 |
| sistpoty | :) | 12:55 |
| siretart | okay, shower now, cu later | 12:55 |
| sistpoty | cya later... hf ;) | 12:55 |
| TMM | sistpoty, if it will be easier to find your own uploads, and get mail notifications for new comments, I will be a happier man :) | 12:55 |
| sistpoty | TMM: it will... siretart has been busy with the spec on the wiki - REVU2Spec | 12:56 |
| \sh | TMM: revu2 is a step forward to revu3 which could be (and should be) included into launchpad | 12:56 |
| TMM | \sh, cool | 12:56 |
| TMM | sistpoty, I'll have a look, perhaps I have a couple of cents to donate there :) | 12:57 |
| \sh | we had some nice chats with kinnison about this | 12:57 |
| \sh | and today, the keynote will us explain Soyuz | 12:57 |
| sistpoty | what is Soyuz? | 12:57 |
| \sh | wait a moment... | 12:58 |
| \sh | trying to find the spec or doc to it | 12:58 |
| \sh | https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/SoyuzSpecification | 01:00 |
| sistpoty | thx | 01:00 |
| slomo | ok, i need to go ;) the next lecture starts... bye bye :) | 01:01 |
| \sh | sistpoty: but the most interesting part of launchpad is malone | 01:01 |
| \sh | sistpoty: and u want to read this : https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/MaloneEmailInterfaceUserDoc | 01:01 |
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| sistpoty | cya | 01:10 |
| \sh | jo...breakfast time now | 01:10 |
| \sh | laters | 01:10 |
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| TMM | yeah | 01:22 |
| TMM | my xen tool stuff is almost done :) | 01:22 |
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| TMM | http://braam.sytes.net/~hp/xen/xen-suse10.png http://braam.sytes.net/~hp/xen/xen-ubuntu.png | 01:23 |
| TMM | :) | 01:23 |
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| schweeb | TMM: cool. I'm about to make a Xen server myself... buying some nice new hardware within the week | 01:35 |
| TMM | schweeb, http://braam.sytes.net/~hp/xen/Xen-Ubuntu-QND-HOWTO.txt | 01:36 |
| TMM | :) | 01:36 |
| schweeb | yea, looking at that now | 01:36 |
| dholbach | hey schweeb | 01:37 |
| schweeb | I've done it before (and I've done UML before) but a quick howto is always helpful, heh | 01:37 |
| schweeb | what up dholbach | 01:37 |
| TMM | schweeb, that should get you going | 01:37 |
| dholbach | schweeb: preparing some BOF stuff :) | 01:37 |
| schweeb | almost time for my morning meeting for ze germans :( | 01:37 |
| TMM | once this is done, I'm going to upload a bunch of debian packages to revu, then get shot down probably, then retry, get shot down again, untill it is in ;) | 01:38 |
| schweeb | TMM: the utils you won't have a problem with, it's the kernel | 01:38 |
| TMM | well, it is ubuntu patches + xen patches, I was very careful | 01:38 |
| schweeb | you're going to keep getting shot down until they come up with a better release cycle, or until Xen is in the main kernel | 01:38 |
| schweeb | the problem is | 01:38 |
| schweeb | you're going to have to deal w/ the fact that the security team isn't responsible for maintaining it | 01:39 |
| TMM | it should be acceptable, all the hard work for merging ubuntu patches with xen patches is done | 01:39 |
| TMM | I'm going to have to maintain it anyway | 01:39 |
| schweeb | right... but they'll probably only allow it in source form | 01:39 |
| TMM | that is fine | 01:39 |
| schweeb | or maybe even only patch form | 01:39 |
| TMM | that is fine too | 01:39 |
| schweeb | well, at least you've got the time and dedication then | 01:40 |
| schweeb | I'm not much of a devel, so I stay out of that crap... I just package | 01:41 |
| schweeb | dholbach: which BOF? | 01:41 |
| dholbach | power management configuration, bugs best practices, test plans, inclusion of docs, some a11y related ones, ... | 01:42 |
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| schweeb | speaking of power mgmt, breezy rocks.... never thought I'd have suspend on this IBM/Lenovo X41 | 01:44 |
| Kyral | Mornin' | 01:45 |
| TMM | I'm getting paid to do this, so, I don't mind too much, I would like to see it in ubuntu, get other people to enjoy my work :) | 01:45 |
| schweeb | TMM: ahhh, nice | 01:45 |
| zakame | hi all | 01:45 |
| schweeb | Xen is just kind of a hobby for me | 01:45 |
| Kyral | Xen? Hmm? | 01:45 |
| schweeb | as is UML | 01:46 |
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| schweeb | I'd like to get my hands on an LPAR at work one of these days | 01:46 |
| TMM | xen totally blows uml away | 01:46 |
| schweeb | oh, no kidding | 01:47 |
| TMM | and, for linux guests it blows vmware away too :) | 01:47 |
| Kyral | TMM: Some of the guys at my collge work a lot with Xen | 01:47 |
| schweeb | but just patching a kernel with SKAS is a little less intrusive than Xen | 01:47 |
| schweeb | and when you have no physical or console access to your server, you kinda take that route | 01:47 |
| TMM | I wouldn't know about intrusive :) xen patches god fuck all, and so do the ubuntu patches | 01:47 |
| TMM | was very nice work to merge the two | 01:48 |
| schweeb | speaking of that | 01:48 |
| schweeb | I fucked up my server again, because I managed to forget a "&& sleep 90 && reboot" | 01:48 |
| TMM | especially the irq routing patches for i386 where 'challenging' | 01:48 |
| schweeb | it's just stuck there with a bridged network that doesn't work to the outside world | 01:49 |
| TMM | that is cool speak for 'totally sucked' | 01:49 |
| schweeb | TMM: how does your employer use Xen? just curious | 01:51 |
| TMM | as a vmware alternative | 01:51 |
| TMM | 'we' are a service provider, and we get more and more inquiries about linux, so, they hired me to do the rnd on products and alternatives for existing solutions | 01:51 |
| TMM | one of which is vmware | 01:51 |
| Kyral | Xen rules | 01:52 |
| Kyral | I'm gonna "Xenify" my box ;P | 01:52 |
| TMM | and, to be able to sell it more easily, I figured there needed to be a gui config thingy | 01:52 |
| nailbiter | vserver might be a more efficient alternative for virtual hosting arrangements | 01:52 |
| TMM | so, here it is, almost | 01:52 |
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| Kyral | main Ubuntu system on Domain 0, then run a webserver offa Domain 1 | 01:53 |
| TMM | nailbiter, with vserver solutions you can not migrate a service to another server that is less busy | 01:53 |
| nailbiter | TMM: That's true | 01:53 |
| schweeb | vserver isn't a complete virtualized solution though, afaik | 01:53 |
| TMM | nailbiter, I'm also making a xen managemnt daemon that will keep an eye on the loads of the different xen machines, and migrate services automagically | 01:53 |
| schweeb | and Xen has better performance | 01:54 |
| TMM | schweeb, no, it isn't | 01:54 |
| TMM | I think people are going to like my 'create domu' druids | 01:54 |
| nailbiter | schweeb: Well, vserver imposes almost zero overhead | 01:55 |
| TMM | nailbiter, xen has a worst case overhead of 8% :) | 01:55 |
| TMM | and a typical overhead of 2% | 01:55 |
| nailbiter | That's not bad, I guess. :) | 01:55 |
| TMM | vmware is a lot worse anyway | 01:56 |
| TMM | and uml is even more terrible | 01:56 |
| nailbiter | I agree--even with the skas patches, UML performance is still pretty horrible | 01:57 |
| schweeb | speaking of virtualization | 01:57 |
| schweeb | I need to be a little less virtual, and a little more physically at work | 01:57 |
| schweeb | later | 01:57 |
| nailbiter | Bye. :) | 01:58 |
| nailbiter | I have to say that Xen's ability to dump and restore state is really funky. :) | 01:58 |
| schweeb | I haven't been physically at work for a week... <3 telecommunication | 01:59 |
| TMM | schweeb, with xen you can give a domu access to physical pci devices | 01:59 |
| schweeb | nailbiter: if by funky you mean totally awesome | 01:59 |
| schweeb | TMM: so I hear | 01:59 |
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| nailbiter | TMM: That might be an interesting way to reverse-engineer some drivers | 01:59 |
| TMM | nailbiter, I don't think xen interferes at all, I doubt it is going to help | 02:00 |
| nailbiter | TMM: It can't snoop on/intercept hardware accesses? | 02:01 |
| TMM | nailbiter, afaik it just gives a domu access to the pci memory range of the pci card in question, I don't think there is a lot of opportunity to do any snooping | 02:01 |
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| nailbiter | If I can't get my GPG key signed for awhile, should I just submit debdiffs for review instead of uploading to REVU? | 02:03 |
| dholbach | nailbiter: afaik you don't need it signed, just uploaded to a keyserver | 02:06 |
| siretart | we don't require signed keys for revu | 02:07 |
| TMM | the signed part is said to be mandatory, but in practice it'll work with an unsigned one | 02:07 |
| siretart | but since contributors ry to become motus themself, it is a very good idea to get their key signed ;) | 02:07 |
| nailbiter | Ah, I see. :) Thanks for that | 02:07 |
| siretart | boah, this telus network is really oerloaded :/ | 02:07 |
| siretart | typeing is really really laggy over here | 02:08 |
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| zakame | hey ajmitch_ | 02:10 |
| siretart | morning ajmitch_ | 02:10 |
| \sh | moins ajmitch_ | 02:11 |
| ajmitch_ | hi | 02:11 |
| TMM | sarge doesn't like the ubuntu kernel very much :) | 02:14 |
| jbailey | tritium: First day of week issues are locales issues. Please file a bug in bugzilla if one doesn't exist already. | 02:15 |
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| slomo_ | ajmitch_: ross accepted my monodoc patch and fixed the python-gdbm stuff... but it will get on dep-wait after syncing because of monodoc 1.1.9 :/ | 05:36 |
| ajmitch_ | ok | 05:37 |
| slomo_ | ugly xsp... it's currently holding of everything... daniels was very happy that dbus 0.5 needs monodoc 1.1.9 too ;) | 05:39 |
| tseng | im sure he was | 05:39 |
| tseng | how can we get xsp done now | 05:39 |
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| slomo_ | moving the source and the mono-xsp-base package to main, everything else to universe will be sufficient... | 05:40 |
| slomo_ | or we could upload a monodoc package with an included dh_installxsp until then | 05:40 |
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| slomo_ | ajmitch_: maybe you want to ask mdz directly if he wants to take a look at it or something... i have to do university stuff atm | 05:46 |
| chillywilly | lalala | 05:46 |
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| Kyral | yo | 06:18 |
| Kyral | Um...I was looking at the build logs and....dash builds fine in my dapper pbuilder... | 06:19 |
| Kyral | and the build log for i386 says its failing | 06:24 |
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| Kyral | hey farruinn, bye farruinn ;P | 06:50 |
| farruinn | hehe, cya | 06:51 |
| slomo_ | hi Kyral, bye farruinn ; | 06:55 |
| slomo_ | ;) | 06:55 |
| farruinn | did I miss something? am I going somewhere? | 06:55 |
| slomo_ | hehe... probably not ;) i thought Kyral knows more than me... for example that you will leave soon again ;) | 06:58 |
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| Kyral | Whee! 65 on Calc exam! | 07:53 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: 65 out of what? | 07:59 |
| Kyral | 100 ;P | 07:59 |
| Kyral | Wahoo! Clarkson sync'd their mirror to Dapper :D | 07:59 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: what was the average? | 07:59 |
| Kyral | 56 | 08:00 |
| LaserJock | cool | 08:00 |
| LaserJock | My wife is a counselor and she always wondered why I got excited when I got 60's on exams | 08:00 |
| Kyral | I really wanna know if I should somehow comment that for some reason dash builds in my Dapper PBuilder, though its failing in the buildlogs | 08:00 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: for the same arch? | 08:01 |
| Kyral | yah | 08:01 |
| Kyral | i386 | 08:01 |
| LaserJock | is that from Dapper source? | 08:01 |
| Kyral | yup | 08:02 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: I need to make a Dapper pbuilder and then I will try it out | 08:03 |
| Kyral | I should put a howto on how to make one from a Breezy PBuilder | 08:04 |
| \sh | Kyral: update PbuilderHowto | 08:04 |
| Kyral | I will when my homework is done :D | 08:04 |
| Kyral | \sh, should I comment on Dash somehow? Or how do I make pbuilder generate a .build file? | 08:05 |
| \sh | Kyral: hum? for what do u need a .build file? | 08:05 |
| Kyral | I dunno, because on the daily build logs, dash is failing on i386, yet it builds fine in my Dapper PBuilder. I think I should need a .build file to "prove" that it builds ;P | 08:06 |
| \sh | Kyral: no....check the buildlog of the buildd | 08:08 |
| Kyral | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/d/dash/0.5.2-8/dash_0.5.2-8_20051102-0010-i386-failed.gz <--This right? | 08:08 |
| \sh | Kyral: state out the architecture...and ping infinity or lamont (when they have time during their bofs, i think they'll have a look at it) | 08:08 |
| Kyral | okay | 08:09 |
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| \sh | Kyral: well...the problem is dietlibc-dev, ask infinity or lamont about this issue | 08:11 |
| Kyral | yah, thats what puzzles me. Its building perfectly fine in my pbuilder.... | 08:11 |
| \sh | Kyral: u build something with your breezy pbuilder? and updated it later on to dapper? | 08:12 |
| \sh | Kyral: it can be that your package cache for dapper is not correct | 08:12 |
| Kyral | I made a Dapper Builder from my Breezy one. Then I cleaned it before I did anything | 08:12 |
| \sh | Kyral: u cleaned as well the installed packages? | 08:13 |
| Kyral | infact when I updated it had to make a new cache because the cache got wiped out | 08:13 |
| \sh | Kyral: hmm..try to use update and --override-config .. see what happens | 08:13 |
| Kyral | the command is different because I still have my Breezy PBuilder so I have to specify which config and tgz to use | 08:15 |
| Kyral | alias dpbUI='sudo pbuilder update --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/dapper-base.tgz --distribution dapper --configfile /etc/dapper-pbuilderrc --override-config' | 08:15 |
| \sh | Kyral: hmmm...u should have a look on pbuilder-distribution.sh in /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/ | 08:15 |
| \sh | Kyral: make sure, u don't use the same package storage directory | 08:16 |
| Kyral | I don't I have a separate apt-cache for each one | 08:17 |
| Kyral | dapper-aptcache and breezy-aptcache | 08:17 |
| farruinn | Kyral: that method you mentioned, making the dapper pbuilder from the breezy one, isn't that the correct way? | 08:17 |
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| farruinn | because that's what's on the howto | 08:17 |
| farruinn | it could be clearer though | 08:17 |
| Kyral | Yha I think so | 08:17 |
| Kyral | I copied it from there then made changes so I could specify which one I wanted | 08:18 |
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| keyes | hello guy, I want to build a package for you (polymer, a GNOME theme for KDE apps) but the upstream tarball is a .tar.bz2 and dh_make give me this error: | 08:29 |
| keyes | Source file is a bz2 but bzip2 or gzip not available at /usr/bin/dh_make line 409, <STDIN> line 2. | 08:29 |
| keyes | Of course bzip2 is installed | 08:30 |
| keyes | must I uncompress the tarball and compress it with GZIP (works fine)? | 08:30 |
| farruinn | that's what I would suggest | 08:32 |
| keyes | fine | 08:33 |
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| LaserJock | hi guys | 08:44 |
| mindwarp-school | hey whats up | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | well, I made a MOTUScience team on launchpad | 08:45 |
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| rbelem | LaserJock: is there a MOTUAudio on launchpad? | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | yeah I think so | 08:51 |
| slomo_ | rbelem: MOTUMedia is... | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | but I think it is called MOTU Pro Audio | 08:51 |
| rbelem | cool ;-) | 08:51 |
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| rbelem | slomo_: MOTUMedia is about video too? | 08:52 |
| slomo_ | rbelem: yes, everything multimedia related | 08:52 |
| rbelem | slomo_: that's pretty cool ;-) | 08:53 |
| rbelem | slomo_: I uploaded some multimedia related packages to REVU | 08:54 |
| slomo_ | rbelem: send me the urls to slomo@ubuntu.com and i'll take a look tomorrow :) | 08:54 |
| bmonty_laptop | hi everyone | 08:55 |
| slomo_ | hi bmonty_laptop :) | 08:55 |
| bmonty_laptop | hi LaserJock | 08:55 |
| rbelem | hi bmonty_laptop | 08:55 |
| LaserJock | hi bmonty_laptop, how's it going? | 08:56 |
| rbelem | slomo_: i have another ones to upload, like cinelerra, jahshaka, gephex | 08:56 |
| mindwarp-school | rawr | 08:56 |
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| bmonty_laptop | life is good, I playing with my 4 day old and messing around on the computer :) | 08:56 |
| rbelem | slomo_: i'll send to you ;-) | 08:57 |
| rbelem | slomo_: thanks ;-) | 08:57 |
| LaserJock | 4 day? | 08:57 |
| slomo_ | rbelem: ok :) | 08:57 |
| bmonty_laptop | LaserJock: yeah, he was born last Friday | 08:57 |
| LaserJock | CONGRATS! | 08:58 |
| bmonty_laptop | thanks :) | 08:58 |
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| bmonty_laptop | be back in a few... | 09:07 |
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| Kyral | Now i have to make a presentation | 09:18 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: do you have more than one pbuilder? | 09:19 |
| Kyral | Yes | 09:19 |
| LaserJock | how do you seperate them? | 09:19 |
| Kyral | I'll tell ya' later, I have a presentation to make | 09:19 |
| Kyral | okay? I'm really sorry I'm just really busy | 09:20 |
| LaserJock | OK, I can understand that, I had to do that yesterday | 09:20 |
| K_Dallas | Hi guys! I was told to ask here if there is any plan to release tetex3 for ubuntu anytime soon? thanks | 09:20 |
| slomo_ | K_Dallas: it's already in dapper | 09:21 |
| LaserJock | dang, that is sweet. I hadn't realized that | 09:21 |
| K_Dallas | great, since i am sort of new (used ubuntu a few months ago for the first time) i have to see if i have dapper in my sources.list but thanks it is a good news | 09:21 |
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| slomo_ | crimsun_: ping? | 09:38 |
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| crimsun_ | slomo_: pong | 09:42 |
| slomo_ | crimsun_: do you currently have time to review my ffmpeg mail? | 09:42 |
| crimsun_ | slomo_: sure | 09:43 |
| slomo_ | crimsun_: ok, mail sent... there are probably many mistakes... i definitly need sleep ;) | 09:44 |
| crimsun_ | slomo_: to my fungus.sh.nu acct? | 09:44 |
| crimsun_ | (my ubuntu.com one isn't forwarding correctly) | 09:44 |
| slomo_ | yes | 09:44 |
| crimsun_ | ok, thanks | 09:45 |
| crimsun_ | slomo_: looks good to me | 09:46 |
| slomo_ | anything you want to be added? | 09:47 |
| crimsun_ | slomo_: you probably also want to mention vlc's case (a universe package) where you can't build-dep on libavcodec-dev (which is in universe) because libpostproc-dev is in multiverse | 09:48 |
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| crimsun_ | slomo_: and demoting everything to multiverse would resolve that issue | 09:48 |
| slomo_ | ok, will do... thanks for looking at it :) | 09:49 |
| crimsun_ | np, and thank you for the e-mail :-) | 09:49 |
| slomo_ | ok, mail to -devel sent | 09:51 |
| crimsun_ | yep, thanks. | 09:56 |
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| keyes | so where must I sumbit my package? | 10:09 |
| Mez | keyes, what package? | 10:21 |
| keyes | olymer | 10:25 |
| keyes | polymer | 10:25 |
| keyes | a QT theme (not KDE) | 10:25 |
| keyes | used to integrate QT/KDE apps in GNOME | 10:26 |
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| mindwarp | .\ | 11:11 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 11:36 |
| slomo_ | hi sistpoty | 11:37 |
| sistpoty | hi slomo_ | 11:37 |
| sistpoty | ping siretart | 11:38 |
| slomo_ | sistpoty: good to meet you... what do you think about creating a MOTU Weird Languages team or something similar? ;) you seem to be interested in such languages... | 11:38 |
| sistpoty | slomo_: sounds cool :) | 11:39 |
| slomo_ | sistpoty: fine :) do you want to create wikipage and LP team? ;) i'm busy with other stuff currently... and is the name ok? | 11:40 |
| sistpoty | slomo_: the name might mislead to actually spoken/written languages maybe s.th. like "uncommon programming languages?" | 11:41 |
| sistpoty | slomo_: I'm a little bit busy right now as well, I don't think I'll be getting to wiki/LP before weekend | 11:42 |
| sistpoty | slomo_: but i can do it ;) | 11:42 |
| slomo_ | sistpoty: ok, then you do it :) what are you busy with atm? :) | 11:43 |
| sistpoty | slomo_: btw.: here is a nice one: http://shakespearelang.sourceforge.net/ | 11:43 |
| sistpoty | slomo_: programming M$Access :( | 11:43 |
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| dredg | Programming Access to seek out and destroy all other copies of Access in existence? | 11:44 |
| dredg | (ohpleaseohpleaseohplease) | 11:44 |
| slomo_ | sistpoty: hehe... shakespearelang is almost as cool as chef =) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef_%28Programmiersprache%29 | 11:44 |
| sistpoty | slomo_: cool... i need to write some programs... er recipes *g* | 11:45 |
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| sistpoty | dredg: I don't think I'm this advanced in access yet, but I heard of the new vista virus, which might do the trick *g* | 11:47 |
| siretart | sistpoty: pong | 11:48 |
| sistpoty | siretart: I just read revu2 spec and tried to figure out, why we introduced "Upload" in the first place | 11:48 |
| siretart | sistpoty: I just updated the spec, it is called now CandidateSeries instead of Upload | 11:49 |
| sistpoty | siretart: yep. I read it. but i'm still wondering if upload is any good/if it will still be enough... should we discuss this in a query? | 11:50 |
| siretart | please | 11:50 |
| siretart | yes please | 11:50 |
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| Kyral | Okay stupid question | 11:56 |
| Kyral | how do I take a screenshot in XFCE | 11:56 |
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