=== koke [n=koke@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] I just create the MOTUPhoto in wiki and its team in Launchpad === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-47-165.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] oh! I'm in! [12:37] dude [12:38] hub [12:38] you called it MOTOPhoto ;) [12:38] hey magnon [12:38] oh? === ajmitch really doesn't like teams with names as generic as that - we run into namespace conflicts with launchpad [12:39] as it's meant to eventually be for multiple distros [12:39] hub: I renamed it to MOTUPhoto === Jimbob [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] hub - Photo Team ? [12:41] anyone used x2x before? [12:42] no, I use synergy === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-110-170.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] it works with windows and has a clipboard [12:45] yeah I got synergy to work no problem, just can't figure out x2x [12:45] im not sure why you would want to [12:45] oh purely out of challenge now [12:45] I tried it before synergy [12:46] and I dont want it to "defeat" me [12:46] im happy to be defeated [12:46] and laze away with my superior solution [12:46] hehe [12:50] wowz [12:50] err didnt mean the z [12:50] but that shared clipboard is amazing [12:50] I have answered hub's creation and made https://launchpad.net/people/proaudio-team ;) === Calinours [n=mirspcm@office.spcmnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:18] magnon: gah. thanks [01:18] for the renaming [01:18] I suck at typing [01:19] hehe [01:21] magnon: I have to fix the MOTUTeam page [01:21] MOTUTeams :) === YokoZar [n=scott@c-67-174-152-233.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === j3fff [n=j3ff@219-89-179-107.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:23] I added 3 packages to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MorgueCandidates that should be removed from Breezy universe. Is this doable? === j3fff [n=j3ff@219-89-179-107.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [01:32] YokoZar: I seriously doubt that they would be removed from Breezy, maybe for Dapper but I don't know if MorgueCandidates is really operational === Tifa [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] shawarma: yeh [01:38] shawarma: give or take [01:39] shawarma: if i put the brightness down [01:39] shawarma: and the hard drive doesnt spin up too much [01:39] shawarma: i got >5 once [01:50] LaserJock: Well, winesetuptk in breezy universe actually conflicts with the wine package in breezy universe. All it's doing is confusing people. [01:50] The package serves literally no purpose. [01:52] YokoZar: well, I'm not positive but I don't think there is anything that can be done for Breezy. Once it is released it is released unles is is something really critical === farruinn [n=nathan@cpe-69-201-10-115.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === magnon [n=co@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chihau_ [n=chihau@200.54.132.71] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@66.103.220.211] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch hopes his replacement creditcard comes soon === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@pcp02403042pcs.brdgtn01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [n=lamont@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bhuvan [n=ubuntu@59.92.37.171] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bhuvan [n=ubuntu@59.92.37.171] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === koke [n=koke@66.103.220.211] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] crimsun: my apologies for the debdiff I gave you on Saturady night. I didn't realize at the time that there would be no updates to breezy. Solfege won't compile in dapper yet because python2.4-gnome2-extras depends on libnautilus-burn3 which doesn't exist yet [02:44] (actually it's -burn3 that's needed, it currently depends on -burn2) === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:54] I see another typo has hit the buglist [02:54] I'll handle it, seems to be my speciality :P [03:00] hey Mez, for 3658 should I patch Dapper or Breezy? [03:00] latest [03:00] so see if Sid has it... [03:01] Yah Dapper has it, same as Sid [03:03] Actually its fixed in the Dapper version [03:03] Should I comment and Reject? === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:07] and Launchpad died again... [03:07] I dunno, it doesn't like me today [03:09] Mez: around? [03:21] whiprush - i think fridge should be wiki format until the "final edition" which would be posted on ubuntuforums [03:21] any good reasons why it isnt? [03:22] not really [03:22] I think people putting articles on the wiki and then having the fridge just link to them would be cool though [03:22] since it'd look pretty similar. [03:22] ah there is a good idea [03:22] especially since it is already implemented [03:22] work is being done for more forums/wiki integration though [03:23] we have a spec on the wiki someplace with the crazy ideas [03:23] gotcha [03:23] just plop some in there if you have any more === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=user@210.5.86.43] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.209.110] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.209.110] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-109-21-133.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:14] farruinn: ok, no prob === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-109-21-133.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-51-87.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:43] dang, I can't last more than a couple minutes in #ubuntu === magnon [n=co@66.103.220.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] in terms of? === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:54] crimsun: I get a headache [04:55] heh [04:55] LaserJock: http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~horkana/junkmail/despair-linux/debian.jpg [04:55] LaserJock: /ignore * JOINS QUITS helps [04:56] farruinn: does that work on a channel by channel basis? [04:56] funny, I was just wondering that myself :) [04:56] I guess you'd have to check your client docs [04:57] hola \sh [05:00] man, I think it takes a special kind of person to be able to handle all that noise [05:03] <\sh> LaserJock: evening :) [05:03] <\sh> LaserJock: and no...we're really not up for noise today [05:03] <\sh> all tired [05:03] how goes UBZ? [05:04] <\sh> LaserJock: it's great.. [05:05] <\sh> some new crack is being discussed here [05:05] <\sh> and all the people here, including siretart and I, are working like hell [05:06] yeah, sounds like it [05:06] crack? what crack :) [05:07] I've just heard some ssh forwarded devices for sound, and removing all the menus :D [05:07] <\sh> magnon: NOT CRACK!!! new nifty crack ,) [05:07] polly wanna cracker? [05:07] I saw some pics today and read some summaries. I got kinda envious [05:07] give it to jdub [05:07] - CRACK *caugh* POLLY WANT CRACK!! *caugh* [05:08] magnon: are you aware about this jack transition in debian? [05:08] nope [05:08] what's their crack? [05:09] I never touched upon debian for these things, I just read debian-legal for fun sometimes :-P [05:10] hehe [05:10] magnon: well, as far as I understood it, they changed soname, so everything depending on it needs to be recompiled [05:10] but there may be more issues === lamont [n=lamont@66.103.220.190] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:12] aha [05:12] well, does that bother me? :) [05:12] magnon: perhaps you should ask pitti, see also his comment on this bug: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12212 [05:12] perhaps, I'm not sure. would need to take a closer look [05:13] silly debian dependency :P [05:13] I'll talk to him tomorrow [05:13] and look at jack itself, most of all [05:14] the good thing though, is that this bug is the only one filed against jack ;) [05:15] heh. Just wait til you see everything that build-deps on libjack0.80.0-dev [05:15] trust me, we'll need to have a JACK mini-transition [05:15] sounds like fun [05:15] and we'll need to wait for a main uploader, probably Martin, to perform the merge>upload [05:16] I'm also seeing that gst-jack is pending removal [05:16] that shouldn't happen [05:16] it should be removed [05:16] upstream is completely reworking JACK support afaik [05:16] hm, ok [05:16] in that case, sure [05:16] <\sh> crimsun: siretart can prepare now the main upload ,-) [05:17] JACK support in 0.6 and 0.8 is cracked [05:17] I know [05:17] \sh: oh, excellent! === ajmitch wouldn't mind being able to upload :) [05:17] I joined -meeting too late to be able to see, but congrats, siretart :-) [05:17] I remember just using alsasink/dmix and never caring [05:17] <\sh> ajmitch: u get your key stuff sorted out..please talk to magnon about the right utilities etc. to prepare a good keysigning party :) [05:18] \sh: you assume I know anything about keysigning & how to run it [05:19] <\sh> ajmitch: well...actually i thought so :) === farruinn [n=nathan@cpe-69-201-1-192.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:19] <\sh> ajmitch: because i'm the guy which is using gpg cli [05:19] heh, I'm organizing the one in two weeks when jdub visits [05:22] \sh: I just saw that the script I was trying to use earlier needs fixed to set the right secret key === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:22] hey hub [05:23] hi [05:23] any nice pictures from my camera? :p [05:23] I have to process them [05:24] but I'm tempted to say that they are better than mine [05:24] I really need to get a 50mm f1.4 [05:24] ajmitch: have you seen signing-party ? [05:24] btw, what were the settings? [05:24] and I DHL tried to deliver my Nokia [05:25] :-((((( [05:25] LaserJock: hmm? [05:25] the settings? 1/90 and f/2.8 I think [05:26] ISO1600 [05:26] ajmitch: for key signing parties [05:26] magnon: sounds the usual [05:26] magnon: most were at 1/60 f2 [05:26] magnon: you were set a f2 and I switched to manual [05:27] LaserJock: possibly... [05:27] magnon: definitely the viewfinder is nice [05:27] it says in the metadata if you use exiftool === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:27] hub: oh, ok, I thought it was 1/90 but I remembered 1/60, but it's crack to use 1/60 with a 50mm ;) [05:27] the viewfinder is very nice, yes :) [05:27] yep I shoud try to use my own packages :-) [05:28] ExifTool still hasn't been uploaded :-/ [05:28] holy fsck [05:28] I should have to package some nef utilities [05:28] magnon: I have some in the pipe [05:28] I think siretart has a bit much to do to upload packages :) [05:28] thanks crimsun [05:28] hub: this is why we are rewriting revu - so that we can manage this more easily :) [05:30] ajmitch: make sense :-) [05:31] there is the cabot package that could be useful [05:31] ajmitch: or gimme the upload privileges now that a/ GPG key is signed b/ I signed the code of conduct :-) [05:31] hub: you'd have to be approved as MOTU though [05:31] which has to be done by... who again? [05:31] hub: haha [05:31] tech board :) [05:31] tech board. right [05:32] first you become a member at the CC meeting === ajmitch can't recall if you are... [05:32] I'm not AFAIK [05:32] hub: none of us here can give upload privilges [05:32] hey anybody up for answering a python packaging question? === \sh tries to sleep now...good night dudes...cu tomorrow [05:33] \sh: signed keys should be in your mailbox - you should decrypt & import each [05:33] night \sh_away [05:33] night \sh [05:33] hub: I should be able to do yours as well now [05:33] gn8 [05:33] im working with a package "pympd": http://pympd.sourceforge.de [05:34] siretart: and I found your fingerprint also [05:35] ajmitch: great. I'll sign your key tomorrow, need some sleep now [05:35] the package installs icon.png and glade files inside /usr/lib instead of /usr/share [05:35] how can i work around that to make the package lintian clean? [05:39] siretart: is there a plan for REVU2 for a version column perhaps? === hub has just removed dozen of spam out of the abiword wiki [05:41] ajmitch: it is fine. I'll do what is needed to be accepted. these are the rules :-) [05:42] hub: hopefully if you check your inbox you'll have encrypted messages from me.. decrypt & import to get your signed keys [05:45] ajmitch: seen it [05:45] done [05:46] about to send the key [05:47] ok [05:53] I am interested in having a MOTUScience team? Is there any interest? [05:54] LaserJock: I'm interested, but I doubt I can contribute much [05:56] Is it necessary to get a MOTU on board to form a team? Seems like it would [05:56] ajmitch: btw, what script do you use to send signed keys? [05:56] I believe so [05:57] LaserJock: No [05:57] LaserJock: Both me and hub created teams today :P [05:58] it's just that you won't have pakcages in automatically [05:58] hub: one from pitti, he provided it at UDU iirc [05:58] did it send the right key? :) [05:59] magnon: how did you do it? [05:59] LaserJock: launchpad, create team, made a wikipage [05:59] ajmitch: yeah it did. [05:59] ajmitch: I was not at UDU [06:00] ajmitch: perhaps one should package this script [06:00] it used to be on the wiki, will hopefully put it up somewhere tomorrow [06:08] magnon: btw, what is that metering mode you use by default on the Nikon [06:09] Sepheebear: mv them in debian/rules before the deb is built === bigcx2 [n=bigcx2@jpi-stillwatr-233-242.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral wonders if he should hold a GPG workshop [06:10] Kyral: yes [06:10] ajmitch: I saw your earlier comments about generic naming of teams? Could you elaborate a little bit on that? [06:10] Kyral: that would be interesting anyway [06:10] At my school :D [06:10] let me know if you do Kyral, I could use it [06:10] Kyral: still [06:10] Yah I know [06:10] I just need like time [06:11] We ARE doing a quasi-installfest thing this weekend though :D [06:11] crimsun: the app breaks if i move them [06:13] I found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey useful when I was trying to get my key signed [06:13] Sepheebear: the source needs to be patched [06:13] Yah I have my signed === Sepheebear breaks out the dpatch man pages and brews some coffee === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:15] LaserJock: yeah. read that === Kyral wonders what logos he should use for the install day [06:16] another thing, moving them before the deb is built means adding the mv lines to install: or binary: ? === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:23] ajmitch: ping? === hub think about switching to dapper [06:24] Dapper is fun :D [06:24] yep === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-51-87.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:25] and I'll get the debian resync [06:25] so I can try to have fun with ufraw === Kyral blinks? [06:28] lol, nice how that gnusolaris thing spammed the ubuntu-devel list with their announcement [06:36] minghua: still around? === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:41] jbailey, I saw you're assigned a bug for the gnome clock applet. Is it possible to configure it to show the first day of the week as Sunday? === tritium wonders why this is marked fixed: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314473 === zakame [n=zak@210.213.70.253] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:45] hi all [07:02] if anybody is interested I just made a MOTUScience team on launchapd (https://launchpad.net/people/motuscience/) [07:05] right on, LaserJock :) === x_madbot [n=marcelo@200227177146-dial-user-ECP.acessonet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU [07:05] w00t! [07:11] hmmm, does an upstream version be numbers only, or can letters be included, like 1.4.0.b9? I'm asking because libmemcache has that particular version... [07:14] zakame: is that in Debian? [07:14] upstream is generally everything in front of the first hyphen [07:15] LaserJock: nope, new package in progress [07:16] yes, generally... [07:16] ... I was doing a debuild of libmemcache, it fails to generate a .diff.gz, even if the .tar.gz's already in ../ [07:16] AH! WAIT [07:17] it should be .orig.tar.gz... [07:17] precisely [07:17] package_upstreamVersion.orig.tar.gz [07:18] yeah... I had to repackage the source, it originally was a .tar.bz2 [07:19] ah, heaven, a .diff.gz generated :) thanks guys :D [07:29] can't I use a orig.tar.bz2 upon package build? === lucas [n=lucas@alabama.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:06] hello [08:07] hi === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga says morning === LaserJock says good evening ;-) (at least for another hour) === minghua [n=minghua@adsl-69-153-128-173.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:22] welcome back minghua [08:22] LaserJock: Hi I'm back [08:22] :-) [08:24] minghua: so are you in a science field? [08:25] LaserJock: yes, I'm a graduate student major in materials science [08:25] master or phd? [08:26] phd [08:27] sweet, I am 4th year physical chemistry grad student [08:29] cool. [08:30] LaserJock: so you want to organize a MOTUscience, are you subscribed to debian-science mailing list now? [08:30] yes [08:30] what are you planning to do with this MOTU? [08:31] the science-related packages are just too diverse, from what I see [08:31] well, I think that we need so science advacacy within MOTU and perhaps get some new packages built for ubuntu. [08:31] for example, I don't use KDE, so a lot of plotting tools they discussed are new to me, and I don't know R at all [08:32] LaserJock: that's always a good thing, sure [08:32] well, I don't know that we have to "use" every tool just keep an eye on things and do the best we can [08:32] and I think altough I can't do much packaging work, porting is relatively easy [08:33] and maybe a FAQ/Howto to tell people "you can get these science related packages in ubuntu" [08:33] there is some discussion on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29919 about people wanting to get newer packages out [08:33] I think debian-science people would like to see such a thing as well [08:34] I think it would be good to let people put their time where their mouth ;-) [08:34] +is [08:35] yeah, good point [08:35] I think it is harder in Debian because I get the feeling they want Maintainers whereas Ubuntu wants Contributors [08:35] that is my feeling anyway [08:36] if REVU2 takes off then it will be fairly simple for people to contribute [08:36] sometimes people talks too much. this also happens for chinese localization [08:36] yes, I feel ubuntu is more open to contributors as well [08:37] and that's a major point that attracts me [08:37] well, I do think it is hard when people aren't given much of a chance to help [08:38] yes, but someone have to step up to do the organization work [08:38] yeah ;-) === minghua looks at LaserJock :-) [08:39] well, I am trying to also work on some better MOTU wiki documentation so people might have a better chance at learning to package and contribute [08:41] for me as long as I am given some documentation, I can do OK. I just need some organization. [08:41] LaserJock, we (the docteam) are looking at including that in our svn repo [08:41] its going to be spec'ed soon I beleave [08:42] rob^: including developer how-tos and stuff? [08:43] at least a guide to motu [08:43] most likly derived from the wiki one [08:44] cool, I have a wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/DocTodo going for cleaning and revamping the MOTU wiki [08:44] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-packaging-guide === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-30-179.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:45] I've been lead to beleave it will have a motu focus [08:47] that would make sense. I have seen it tossed around but haven't seen much work being done. Maybe I just haven't seen it. I wasn't sure if anything was going to come of it. [08:48] rob^: I agree, I think most new ubuntu contributors would start from MOTU first [08:48] such a guide would be very helpful [08:53] rob^: I will keep and eye on that [08:53] I gotta go to bed right now [08:53] good night LaserJock [08:53] minghua: do you have a launchpad account? [08:54] LaserJock: yes, minghua@lauchpad as well [08:54] you can go to https://launchpad.net/people/motuscience and join the team there [08:55] LaserJock: will do [08:55] good night [09:02] you should con laserjock into making a metapackage for it [09:03] may also wish to check with edubuntu to see if they're planning to support higher ed [09:03] I suspect they're not related, but it doesn't hurt to ask [09:03] crimsun: I suppose edubuntu is for, like, under 12? [09:04] elementary and middle schools is my impression [09:04] various US universities have loosely collected portions of scientific software [09:05] "Science" might be better as an entry for more precise packages [09:06] I agree it won't hurt to ask, but I am afraid the goal is too different === maradong [n=bhentges@vodsl-4045.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [n=chrys@dslb-084-056-068-084.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:41] <_Tonio_> morning === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sebest [n=chatzill@sebest.ovibes.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487F57D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === keyes [n=keyes@lns-bzn-30-82-253-146-197.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] hello [10:24] siretart: are you here? === rbelem [n=rodrigo@ubuntu/member/rbelem] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:38] he may be waking up soon [10:38] I think he's at UBZ, though === nailbiter [i=foobar@c210-49-121-249.eburwd3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:51] Hi there. :) I'm a Debian defector who would like to put some work into a couple of Ubuntu packages (and hopefully qualify for mentorship); is there some Wiki page where this is all coordinated? [10:52] heh debian defector [10:53] nailbiter: we dont have "mentorship" as such [10:53] nailbiter: I believe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU is a good start [10:53] its more a whole community guided sorta thing [10:53] and yeh what minghua said [10:53] REVU is probably the closest to mentorship === herzi [n=herzi@c167166.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:55] Ok, thanks. I'll read up. :) [11:01] does anyone know if ubuntu.com is down? [11:02] Seems to be up === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@vpn-imt10.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa105.5.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivor [n=ivor@difo.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pkern [n=pkern@debian/developer/pkern] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:13] morning folks! === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:22] hi siretart [12:22] hi slomo, siretart [12:23] hi dholbach :) [12:23] siretart: i'll send a mail about the ffmpeg stuff to -devel later today or tomorrow morning... you remember it? === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o dholbach] by ChanServ === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:dholbach] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | REVU up again: http://revu.tauware.de | We did it - we released Breezy! :) | somebody please help writing up the MOTU report: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUReportDraft === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o dholbach] by dholbach [12:36] slomo: I very well remember it [12:37] slomo: I assume you mainly ask for status update about the ffmpeg issue, right? [12:37] siretart: crimsun wanted to help me with it, moving vlc to multiverse etc [12:38] siretart: nope... i want to get some attention to that issue to get it done now ;) mailing elmo about it doesn't work... [12:38] right now, no [12:38] siretart: he probably wants to see comments by other people about it [12:38] thats an very good idea [12:39] okay, I'll wait for your email, and perhaps bug mdz in person about that [12:39] ok, thanks :) [12:42] bah... i need coffee :( === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@DSL01.83.171.167.168.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:44] hi folks [12:44] huhu sistpoty [12:44] huhu siretart [12:45] <\sh> moins sistpoty [12:45] hi \sh [12:45] what time is it in montreal? [12:45] 06:44 [12:45] <\sh> 6:45am [12:45] ;) [12:45] phew, you're up early ;) [12:45] we just got up [12:45] hehe [12:45] <\sh> time for breakfast...when siretart hurries up and have a shower :) [12:46] sistpoty: because we need to be at 9am sharp in the meeting room [12:46] wow [12:46] jdub said that it was sharp as in 'bleeding edge' sharp ;) [12:46] hehe === sistpoty has just been looking at revu2spec progress [12:46] hi sistpoty [12:47] hi slomo [12:47] sistpoty: yes, I thing the spec is about to be approved, needs some more cleeanups [12:47] yep [12:48] btw.: great work you've done so far ;) [12:48] sistpoty: I discussed with daniel silverstone about revu3, that one will be dapper+1 and completly integrated into launchpad [12:48] r0cks! [12:49] for revu2, we 'just' use authentication stuff from lp [12:49] sounds really good so far... and I won't have to worry about user management pages :) [12:49] perhaps we'll get another name, but that anyway, we need to keep the code clean, so integration is possible [12:50] keeping the code clean is always a good idea :) [12:51] hehe [12:52] btw.: you could include some diagrams from revu2 in the spec (or link to them) [12:52] owww, revu2? we are going to get new and shiny stuff? :) [12:52] TMM: yes :) [12:53] TMM: but imo will still take some time until it's ready [12:53] neat [12:53] I like new and shiny [12:54] TMM: http://revu.tauware.de/~sistpoty/revu2/trunk/ <- actually nothing is working yet, but just to get the idea of "shiny" ;) [12:54] sistpoty: yes, together with some proposed scetches about the ui [12:55] I think I'll have a bit time today for writing more about implementation details, I wanted the design approved first [12:55] siretart: cool :) [12:55] but I think its mostly okay [12:55] :) [12:55] okay, shower now, cu later [12:55] cya later... hf ;) [12:55] sistpoty, if it will be easier to find your own uploads, and get mail notifications for new comments, I will be a happier man :) [12:56] TMM: it will... siretart has been busy with the spec on the wiki - REVU2Spec [12:56] <\sh> TMM: revu2 is a step forward to revu3 which could be (and should be) included into launchpad [12:56] \sh, cool [12:57] sistpoty, I'll have a look, perhaps I have a couple of cents to donate there :) [12:57] <\sh> we had some nice chats with kinnison about this [12:57] <\sh> and today, the keynote will us explain Soyuz [12:57] what is Soyuz? [12:58] <\sh> wait a moment... [12:58] <\sh> trying to find the spec or doc to it [01:00] <\sh> https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/SoyuzSpecification [01:00] thx [01:01] ok, i need to go ;) the next lecture starts... bye bye :) [01:01] <\sh> sistpoty: but the most interesting part of launchpad is malone [01:01] <\sh> sistpoty: and u want to read this : https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/MaloneEmailInterfaceUserDoc === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gazer [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty is off again [01:10] cya [01:10] <\sh> jo...breakfast time now [01:10] <\sh> laters === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:22] yeah [01:22] my xen tool stuff is almost done :) === crimsun [i=crimsun@hacked.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:23] http://braam.sytes.net/~hp/xen/xen-suse10.png http://braam.sytes.net/~hp/xen/xen-ubuntu.png [01:23] :) === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] TMM: cool. I'm about to make a Xen server myself... buying some nice new hardware within the week [01:36] schweeb, http://braam.sytes.net/~hp/xen/Xen-Ubuntu-QND-HOWTO.txt [01:36] :) [01:36] yea, looking at that now [01:37] hey schweeb [01:37] I've done it before (and I've done UML before) but a quick howto is always helpful, heh [01:37] what up dholbach [01:37] schweeb, that should get you going [01:37] schweeb: preparing some BOF stuff :) [01:37] almost time for my morning meeting for ze germans :( [01:38] once this is done, I'm going to upload a bunch of debian packages to revu, then get shot down probably, then retry, get shot down again, untill it is in ;) [01:38] TMM: the utils you won't have a problem with, it's the kernel [01:38] well, it is ubuntu patches + xen patches, I was very careful [01:38] you're going to keep getting shot down until they come up with a better release cycle, or until Xen is in the main kernel [01:38] the problem is [01:39] you're going to have to deal w/ the fact that the security team isn't responsible for maintaining it [01:39] it should be acceptable, all the hard work for merging ubuntu patches with xen patches is done [01:39] I'm going to have to maintain it anyway [01:39] right... but they'll probably only allow it in source form [01:39] that is fine [01:39] or maybe even only patch form [01:39] that is fine too [01:40] well, at least you've got the time and dedication then [01:41] I'm not much of a devel, so I stay out of that crap... I just package [01:41] dholbach: which BOF? [01:42] power management configuration, bugs best practices, test plans, inclusion of docs, some a11y related ones, ... === ryu [n=chris@p5487EE61.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:44] speaking of power mgmt, breezy rocks.... never thought I'd have suspend on this IBM/Lenovo X41 [01:45] Mornin' [01:45] I'm getting paid to do this, so, I don't mind too much, I would like to see it in ubuntu, get other people to enjoy my work :) [01:45] TMM: ahhh, nice [01:45] hi all [01:45] Xen is just kind of a hobby for me [01:45] Xen? Hmm? [01:46] as is UML === susus [n=sz@p5089FBA3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:46] I'd like to get my hands on an LPAR at work one of these days [01:46] xen totally blows uml away [01:47] oh, no kidding [01:47] and, for linux guests it blows vmware away too :) [01:47] TMM: Some of the guys at my collge work a lot with Xen [01:47] but just patching a kernel with SKAS is a little less intrusive than Xen [01:47] and when you have no physical or console access to your server, you kinda take that route [01:47] I wouldn't know about intrusive :) xen patches god fuck all, and so do the ubuntu patches [01:48] was very nice work to merge the two [01:48] speaking of that [01:48] I fucked up my server again, because I managed to forget a "&& sleep 90 && reboot" [01:48] especially the irq routing patches for i386 where 'challenging' [01:49] it's just stuck there with a bridged network that doesn't work to the outside world [01:49] that is cool speak for 'totally sucked' [01:51] TMM: how does your employer use Xen? just curious [01:51] as a vmware alternative [01:51] 'we' are a service provider, and we get more and more inquiries about linux, so, they hired me to do the rnd on products and alternatives for existing solutions [01:51] one of which is vmware [01:52] Xen rules [01:52] I'm gonna "Xenify" my box ;P [01:52] and, to be able to sell it more easily, I figured there needed to be a gui config thingy [01:52] vserver might be a more efficient alternative for virtual hosting arrangements [01:52] so, here it is, almost === jmont [n=julio@200.138.221.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] main Ubuntu system on Domain 0, then run a webserver offa Domain 1 [01:53] nailbiter, with vserver solutions you can not migrate a service to another server that is less busy [01:53] TMM: That's true [01:53] vserver isn't a complete virtualized solution though, afaik [01:53] nailbiter, I'm also making a xen managemnt daemon that will keep an eye on the loads of the different xen machines, and migrate services automagically [01:54] and Xen has better performance [01:54] schweeb, no, it isn't [01:54] I think people are going to like my 'create domu' druids [01:55] schweeb: Well, vserver imposes almost zero overhead [01:55] nailbiter, xen has a worst case overhead of 8% :) [01:55] and a typical overhead of 2% [01:55] That's not bad, I guess. :) [01:56] vmware is a lot worse anyway [01:56] and uml is even more terrible [01:57] I agree--even with the skas patches, UML performance is still pretty horrible [01:57] speaking of virtualization [01:57] I need to be a little less virtual, and a little more physically at work [01:57] later [01:58] Bye. :) [01:58] I have to say that Xen's ability to dump and restore state is really funky. :) [01:59] I haven't been physically at work for a week... <3 telecommunication [01:59] schweeb, with xen you can give a domu access to physical pci devices [01:59] nailbiter: if by funky you mean totally awesome [01:59] TMM: so I hear === schweeb leaves for real [01:59] TMM: That might be an interesting way to reverse-engineer some drivers [02:00] nailbiter, I don't think xen interferes at all, I doubt it is going to help [02:01] TMM: It can't snoop on/intercept hardware accesses? [02:01] nailbiter, afaik it just gives a domu access to the pci memory range of the pci card in question, I don't think there is a lot of opportunity to do any snooping === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:03] If I can't get my GPG key signed for awhile, should I just submit debdiffs for review instead of uploading to REVU? [02:06] nailbiter: afaik you don't need it signed, just uploaded to a keyserver [02:07] we don't require signed keys for revu [02:07] the signed part is said to be mandatory, but in practice it'll work with an unsigned one [02:07] but since contributors ry to become motus themself, it is a very good idea to get their key signed ;) [02:07] Ah, I see. :) Thanks for that [02:07] boah, this telus network is really oerloaded :/ [02:08] typeing is really really laggy over here === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-157.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] hey ajmitch_ [02:10] morning ajmitch_ [02:11] <\sh> moins ajmitch_ [02:11] hi [02:14] sarge doesn't like the ubuntu kernel very much :) [02:15] tritium: First day of week issues are locales issues. Please file a bug in bugzilla if one doesn't exist already. === jamessan|work [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [n=lamont@66.103.220.190] has joined #ubuntu-motu === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === markuman [n=supermar@p50925140.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === K_Dallas [i=Korbain@i216-58-61-214.cybersurf.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] Hi guys! I was told to ask here if there is any plan to release tetex3 for ubuntu anytime soon? thanks === lucas [n=lucas@alabama.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@66.103.220.188] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@66.103.220.177] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@66.103.220.184] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sanpera [n=sanpera@157.182.195.191] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@66.103.220.188] has joined #ubuntu-motu === julio_ [n=julio@200.138.221.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.138.168.152] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@66.103.220.184] has joined #ubuntu-motu === magnon [n=co@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.247] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb [n=bradb@66.103.220.183] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@80-193-16-239.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mez_ [n=Mez@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === farruinn [n=nathan@cpe-69-201-8-80.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MasterC [n=chans@dslb-084-060-228-101.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub_ [n=hub@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun_ [i=crimsun@hacked.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub_ is now known as hub [05:36] ajmitch_: ross accepted my monodoc patch and fixed the python-gdbm stuff... but it will get on dep-wait after syncing because of monodoc 1.1.9 :/ [05:37] ok [05:39] ugly xsp... it's currently holding of everything... daniels was very happy that dbus 0.5 needs monodoc 1.1.9 too ;) [05:39] im sure he was [05:39] how can we get xsp done now === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:40] moving the source and the mono-xsp-base package to main, everything else to universe will be sufficient... [05:40] or we could upload a monodoc package with an included dh_installxsp until then === dholbach [n=daniel@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:46] ajmitch_: maybe you want to ask mdz directly if he wants to take a look at it or something... i have to do university stuff atm [05:46] lalala === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fedipe [n=felipegb@200-233-236-044.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fedipe [n=felipegb@200-233-236-044.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-57-11.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=ShadowLi@cosi-lab-7.sclab.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:18] yo [06:19] Um...I was looking at the build logs and....dash builds fine in my dapper pbuilder... [06:24] and the build log for i386 says its failing === Valandil [n=chrys@dslb-084-056-099-025.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dredg [n=nsherida@216-239-45-4.google.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === moyogo [n=moyogo@119pc104.ucu-vb.uu.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Calinours [n=mirspcm@bel62-1-82-238-61-46.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [n=lamont@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === farruinn [n=nathan@cpe-69-201-8-80.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:50] hey farruinn, bye farruinn ;P [06:51] hehe, cya [06:55] hi Kyral, bye farruinn ; [06:55] ;) [06:55] did I miss something? am I going somewhere? [06:58] hehe... probably not ;) i thought Kyral knows more than me... for example that you will leave soon again ;) === moyogo_ [n=moyogo@119pc104.ucu-vb.uu.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chihau_ [n=chihau@200.54.132.71] has joined #ubuntu-motu === magnon [n=co@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-246-150.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@d80-170-42-79.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mindwarp-school [n=mindwarp@141.215.5.195] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MasterC [n=chans@dslb-084-060-228-101.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Cimmerian [n=crom@80.239.71.239] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:53] Whee! 65 on Calc exam! [07:59] Kyral: 65 out of what? [07:59] 100 ;P [07:59] Wahoo! Clarkson sync'd their mirror to Dapper :D [07:59] Kyral: what was the average? [08:00] 56 [08:00] cool [08:00] My wife is a counselor and she always wondered why I got excited when I got 60's on exams [08:00] I really wanna know if I should somehow comment that for some reason dash builds in my Dapper PBuilder, though its failing in the buildlogs [08:01] Kyral: for the same arch? [08:01] yah [08:01] i386 [08:01] is that from Dapper source? [08:02] yup [08:03] Kyral: I need to make a Dapper pbuilder and then I will try it out [08:04] I should put a howto on how to make one from a Breezy PBuilder [08:04] <\sh> Kyral: update PbuilderHowto [08:04] I will when my homework is done :D [08:05] \sh, should I comment on Dash somehow? Or how do I make pbuilder generate a .build file? [08:05] <\sh> Kyral: hum? for what do u need a .build file? [08:06] I dunno, because on the daily build logs, dash is failing on i386, yet it builds fine in my Dapper PBuilder. I think I should need a .build file to "prove" that it builds ;P [08:08] <\sh> Kyral: no....check the buildlog of the buildd [08:08] http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/d/dash/0.5.2-8/dash_0.5.2-8_20051102-0010-i386-failed.gz <--This right? [08:08] <\sh> Kyral: state out the architecture...and ping infinity or lamont (when they have time during their bofs, i think they'll have a look at it) [08:09] okay === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:11] <\sh> Kyral: well...the problem is dietlibc-dev, ask infinity or lamont about this issue [08:11] yah, thats what puzzles me. Its building perfectly fine in my pbuilder.... [08:12] <\sh> Kyral: u build something with your breezy pbuilder? and updated it later on to dapper? [08:12] <\sh> Kyral: it can be that your package cache for dapper is not correct [08:12] I made a Dapper Builder from my Breezy one. Then I cleaned it before I did anything [08:13] <\sh> Kyral: u cleaned as well the installed packages? [08:13] infact when I updated it had to make a new cache because the cache got wiped out [08:13] <\sh> Kyral: hmm..try to use update and --override-config .. see what happens [08:15] the command is different because I still have my Breezy PBuilder so I have to specify which config and tgz to use [08:15] alias dpbUI='sudo pbuilder update --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/dapper-base.tgz --distribution dapper --configfile /etc/dapper-pbuilderrc --override-config' [08:15] <\sh> Kyral: hmmm...u should have a look on pbuilder-distribution.sh in /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/ [08:16] <\sh> Kyral: make sure, u don't use the same package storage directory [08:17] I don't I have a separate apt-cache for each one [08:17] dapper-aptcache and breezy-aptcache [08:17] Kyral: that method you mentioned, making the dapper pbuilder from the breezy one, isn't that the correct way? === lamont [n=lamont@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:17] because that's what's on the howto [08:17] it could be clearer though [08:17] Yha I think so [08:18] I copied it from there then made changes so I could specify which one I wanted === magnon [n=co@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === keyes [n=keyes@lns-bzn-34-82-249-234-170.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:29] hello guy, I want to build a package for you (polymer, a GNOME theme for KDE apps) but the upstream tarball is a .tar.bz2 and dh_make give me this error: [08:29] Source file is a bz2 but bzip2 or gzip not available at /usr/bin/dh_make line 409, line 2. [08:30] Of course bzip2 is installed [08:30] must I uncompress the tarball and compress it with GZIP (works fine)? [08:32] that's what I would suggest [08:33] fine === viviersf [n=cain@66.103.220.184] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tifa [n=alucard@bsocket.csv.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty_laptop [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:44] hi guys [08:45] hey whats up [08:45] well, I made a MOTUScience team on launchpad === hub [n=hub@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:51] LaserJock: is there a MOTUAudio on launchpad? [08:51] yeah I think so [08:51] rbelem: MOTUMedia is... [08:51] but I think it is called MOTU Pro Audio [08:51] cool ;-) === alucard_ [n=alucard@bsocket.csv.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:52] slomo_: MOTUMedia is about video too? [08:52] rbelem: yes, everything multimedia related [08:53] slomo_: that's pretty cool ;-) [08:54] slomo_: I uploaded some multimedia related packages to REVU [08:54] rbelem: send me the urls to slomo@ubuntu.com and i'll take a look tomorrow :) [08:55] hi everyone [08:55] hi bmonty_laptop :) [08:55] hi LaserJock [08:55] hi bmonty_laptop [08:56] hi bmonty_laptop, how's it going? [08:56] slomo_: i have another ones to upload, like cinelerra, jahshaka, gephex [08:56] rawr === ryu [n=chris@p5487CD49.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:56] life is good, I playing with my 4 day old and messing around on the computer :) [08:57] slomo_: i'll send to you ;-) [08:57] slomo_: thanks ;-) [08:57] 4 day? [08:57] rbelem: ok :) [08:57] LaserJock: yeah, he was born last Friday [08:58] CONGRATS! [08:58] thanks :) === Kyral tosses bmonty_laptop a cigar as he works on his homework [09:07] be back in a few... === bradb [n=bradb@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:18] Now i have to make a presentation [09:19] Kyral: do you have more than one pbuilder? [09:19] Yes [09:19] how do you seperate them? [09:19] I'll tell ya' later, I have a presentation to make [09:20] okay? I'm really sorry I'm just really busy [09:20] OK, I can understand that, I had to do that yesterday [09:20] Hi guys! I was told to ask here if there is any plan to release tetex3 for ubuntu anytime soon? thanks [09:21] K_Dallas: it's already in dapper [09:21] dang, that is sweet. I hadn't realized that [09:21] great, since i am sort of new (used ubuntu a few months ago for the first time) i have to see if i have dapper in my sources.list but thanks it is a good news === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:38] crimsun_: ping? === ryu [n=chris@p5487D620.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:42] slomo_: pong [09:42] crimsun_: do you currently have time to review my ffmpeg mail? [09:43] slomo_: sure [09:44] crimsun_: ok, mail sent... there are probably many mistakes... i definitly need sleep ;) [09:44] slomo_: to my fungus.sh.nu acct? [09:44] (my ubuntu.com one isn't forwarding correctly) [09:44] yes [09:45] ok, thanks [09:46] slomo_: looks good to me [09:47] anything you want to be added? [09:48] slomo_: you probably also want to mention vlc's case (a universe package) where you can't build-dep on libavcodec-dev (which is in universe) because libpostproc-dev is in multiverse === ryu [n=chris@p5487D620.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:48] slomo_: and demoting everything to multiverse would resolve that issue [09:49] ok, will do... thanks for looking at it :) [09:49] np, and thank you for the e-mail :-) [09:51] ok, mail to -devel sent [09:56] yep, thanks. === crimsun_ heads back to work === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:09] so where must I sumbit my package? [10:21] keyes, what package? [10:25] olymer [10:25] polymer [10:25] a QT theme (not KDE) [10:26] used to integrate QT/KDE apps in GNOME === bradb [n=bradb@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === magnon [n=co@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [n=lamont@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywi1ly [n=danielb@corporate.metalexpress.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-243-186.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:11] .\ === sedak [n=fred@home.nenya.info] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@DSL01.83.171.167.168.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:36] hi folks [11:37] hi sistpoty [11:37] hi slomo_ [11:38] ping siretart [11:38] sistpoty: good to meet you... what do you think about creating a MOTU Weird Languages team or something similar? ;) you seem to be interested in such languages... [11:39] slomo_: sounds cool :) [11:40] sistpoty: fine :) do you want to create wikipage and LP team? ;) i'm busy with other stuff currently... and is the name ok? [11:41] slomo_: the name might mislead to actually spoken/written languages maybe s.th. like "uncommon programming languages?" [11:42] slomo_: I'm a little bit busy right now as well, I don't think I'll be getting to wiki/LP before weekend [11:42] slomo_: but i can do it ;) [11:43] sistpoty: ok, then you do it :) what are you busy with atm? :) [11:43] slomo_: btw.: here is a nice one: http://shakespearelang.sourceforge.net/ [11:43] slomo_: programming M$Access :( === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@d-ip-129-15-214-26.wireless.ou.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:44] Programming Access to seek out and destroy all other copies of Access in existence? [11:44] (ohpleaseohpleaseohplease) [11:44] sistpoty: hehe... shakespearelang is almost as cool as chef =) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef_%28Programmiersprache%29 [11:45] slomo_: cool... i need to write some programs... er recipes *g* === Kyral [n=Linux@hamlin-162-281.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:47] dredg: I don't think I'm this advanced in access yet, but I heard of the new vista virus, which might do the trick *g* [11:48] sistpoty: pong [11:48] siretart: I just read revu2 spec and tried to figure out, why we introduced "Upload" in the first place [11:49] sistpoty: I just updated the spec, it is called now CandidateSeries instead of Upload [11:50] siretart: yep. I read it. but i'm still wondering if upload is any good/if it will still be enough... should we discuss this in a query? [11:50] please [11:50] yes please === koke [n=koke@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:56] Okay stupid question [11:56] how do I take a screenshot in XFCE === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu