[12:00] <cafuego> yohan: You thus need an i386 system (or chroot, to emulate one) in order to run win32 binaries on wine.
[12:00] <zim> HELLO IS ANYONE OUT THERE can anyone else gety to http://www.ubuntulinux.org or is it down
[12:00] <marcin> and the problem is that I can see polish letters in gnome-terminal, in emacs buffers, on console
[12:00] <marcin> but not in xterm
[12:00] <runedude1> so what would you all suggest to use with route?
[12:00] <bob2> zim: stop it
[12:00] <marcin> and not in emacs w3m web browser
[12:00] <Lajuj> bob2, now I getipw2100                78896  0
[12:00] <Lajuj> firmware_class          9472  1 ipw2100
[12:00] <Lajuj> ieee80211              27012  1 ipw2100
[12:00] <Lajuj> ieee80211_crypt         5636  2 ipw2100,ieee80211
[12:00] <runedude1> something like
[12:00] <kingright> fault search for VLC
[12:00] <bob2> zim: it's slow but works
[12:00] <fault> yes
[12:00] <zim> try the links
[12:00] <cafuego> Thank you for not pasting.
[12:00] <nalioth> Lajuj: please dont paste in here
[12:01] <yohan> is it much slower than running i486 version of ubuntu?
[12:01] <marcin> I use terminus font so it should show polish letters but I got empty spaces...
[12:01] <yohan> i mean emulating
[12:01] <runedude1> route add -net 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw ra0 ?
[12:01] <kingright> fault, then right click on it and mark for install
[12:01] <zim> and i have no images
[12:01] <marcin> could someone help me with this thing?
[12:01] <zim> all other sites fine
[12:01] <cafuego> yohan: Try and see...
[12:01] <Lajuj> nalioth, I am sorry, I won't do it again
[12:01] <kingright> fault, then click apply
[12:01] <bob2> marcin: then it probably doesn't have those characters
[12:01] <kingright> fault, it should install it
[12:01] <Himo> Jowi: bad news
[12:01] <yohan> thanks
[12:01] <marcin> bob2: it definetly has
[12:02] <marcin> bob2: I got two terminals - gnome-terminal with font set to terminus and xterm with the same font
[12:02] <bob2> marcin: did yo urun xterm with -u8?
[12:02] <marcin> bob2: I got polish letters in gnome-terminal and I don't in xterm
[12:02] <Himo> Jowi: the same message
[12:03] <Jowi> Himo: copy the error(s) to the pastebin
[12:03] <marcin> bob2: I did now and no effect
[12:03] <kingright> fault, you get it?
[12:03] <runedude1> route: netmask doesn't match route address
[12:03] <runedude1> GAH!
[12:03] <Himo> is an screen
[12:03] <Ropechoborra> wich is the command for configureing the sound car?
[12:04] <Ropechoborra> *card
[12:04] <Himo> how to copy it?
[12:04] <render> anybody cound help me with scons? I'm not able to make it use mpic++ instead of g++
[12:04] <fault> kinright i msg you in a extra window
[12:04] <runedude1> why am i getting "route: netmask doesnt match route address"
[12:05] <kingright> i did not get it
[12:05] <runedude1> im trying this: route add -net 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev ra0
[12:05] <kingright> did u  REGISTER with nickserv?
[12:05] <runedude1> ra0 is 192.168.1.115 and 192.168.0.1 is the eth0 i am trying to route to go to ra0
[12:05] <foampeac1> can someone ping foampeace?
[12:05] <fault> kingright now?
[12:05] <Lajuj> bob2, it seems when I grep ipw it detects something
[12:06] <runedude1> meh w/e, i give up
[12:06] <foampeac1> my irc nick is stuck on the server how come
[12:06] <kingright> fault, to send msg on freenode you must  REGISTER with nickserv
[12:06] <fault> ahhh
[12:06] <fault> okay
[12:06] <nalioth> foampeac1: /msg nickserv help ghost
[12:06] <kingright> its ok
[12:06] <runedude1> so maybe my netmask is wrong
[12:06] <P8ntKid> How do i unmount a partition?
[12:07] <runedude1> i thought the netmask is 255.255.255.0
[12:07] <runedude1> its not working if i put that in for "route" though
[12:07] <fault> kingright, well it just told me about some libs that are not going to be installed....
[12:07] <P8ntKid> Cuase in qtparted. It sys hda2 is mounted. But when i do "umount /mnt/hda2" It says it isnt mounted?
[12:07] <zim> is anyone one else having problems with the ubuntu website or is it my side cant see why as rest of web is fine
[12:08] <bob2> Lajuj: now try setting it up
[12:08] <foampeace> nalioth: thanks
[12:08] <runedude1> ARGH! its still not working!
[12:08] <SEJeff> P8ntKid, cat /etc/mtab | grep hda2
[12:08] <Himo> Jowi: I cannot copy the screen
[12:08] <foampeace> gcrontab or kcron arent working...anyoneknow why?
[12:08] <Lajuj> bob2, what do you mean by setting it up?
[12:09] <bob2> Lajuj: nevermind then
[12:09] <P8ntKid> SEJeff: Did that unmount it?
[12:09] <SEJeff> P8ntKid: No, does it show anything?
[12:09] <P8ntKid> SE
[12:09] <P8ntKid> SEJeff: No.
[12:09] <SEJeff> P8ntKid: Well then it's not mounted. Try gparted
[12:09] <Jowi> Himo: find a way. very hard to troubleshoot without the errors. write them down on a paper and fill it in in the pastebin if you have no other alternative.
[12:10] <P8ntKid> SEJeff: In gparted it says its mounted too.
[12:10] <SEJeff> P8ntKid: That is very weird. You might reboot and play with it then.
[12:10] <Himo> Jowi: there is a message on the terminal when I tried to run the gdm: Aborting!: Can't find the gdm user (gdm)
[12:10] <P8ntKid> SEJeff: Maybe im on Hda2?
[12:10] <foampeace> how do i submit abug report
[12:11] <P8ntKid> SEJeff: I just want to make a small partition of about 8mb so i can store my like firefox bookmarks and fluxbox menus and stuff becuase im about to install gentoo.
[12:11] <Jowi> Himo: well, i gave you all the help i could with that error. we did create the user gdm and it still complains so i don't really know what else to do...
[12:11] <foampeace> kcron and gcrontab dont work. Reason unknown
[12:11] <Himo> Jowi: what the screen says I have already wrote to you: The gdm user does not exist. Please correct gdm configuration /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and restart gdm
[12:11] <SEJeff> P8ntKid: You should just put /home on it's own partition
[12:11] <SEJeff> zim: It's not you
[12:11] <P8ntKid> SEJeff: How do i do that?
[12:12] <P8ntKid> SEJeff: Cuase that pretty much exactly what i want to do.
[12:12] <foampeace> how do you submit a bug report
[12:13] <rick_> I have a problem if anyone want to take a shot at it, as a noob I am at my wits end.
[12:13] <P8ntKid> How do i put my /home directory into its own partition?
[12:13] <foampeace> rick_: ok
[12:13] <rick_> Often when I'm using Gnome and I try to start a new program, the mouse pointer will change indicating it is loading, but the window will never show up. After I get this error, no program window will open. I can't even open a terminal window!
[12:13] <andres> hi
[12:13] <Jowi> Himo: yeah. in the gdm.conf there should be two lines: User=gdm and Group=gdm. We created those since they didn't exist on your system. i do not know what else to do i'm afraid.
[12:13] <zim> SEjeff ty
[12:14] <trappist> rick_: try running the app from the command line and see if you get any error output
[12:14] <foampeace> rick_: what program?
[12:14] <rick_> no terminal will open up
[12:14] <rick_> no app will start
[12:14] <Himo> Jowi: would it be useful for you if I show the gdm.conf?
[12:14] <rick_> none zilch
[12:15] <andres> i have an acer 2023 and there are spcials keys
[12:15] <foampeace> rick_: ctrl+alt+f1 log in there
[12:15] <foampeace> rick_: try running it there
[12:15] <Jowi> Himo: nope. i'm lost for this problem....
[12:15] <andres> no rlan
[12:15] <andres> no rulan
[12:15] <c6h12o6> did you change your hostname rick_ ?
[12:15] <andres> coo
[12:15] <rick_> no
[12:15] <andres> no hay nadie que hable espaol
[12:15] <selinium> !es
[12:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:15] <foampeace> how do you run a command for X from console
[12:16] <P8ntKid> Can anybody help?
[12:16] <foampeace> already running X
[12:16] <Estel> for X?
[12:16] <Estel> you should just be able to type it
[12:16] <foampeace> rick_: maybe run a command from console there for running X
[12:16] <Himo> Jowi: ok, thank you very much for your help anyway, just a question, what would be the next step? reinstall all ubuntu?
[12:17] <selinium> P8ntKid, modify your fstab file to point to the new partition
[12:17] <foampeace> Estel: want it to come out on X though i think...not say no display running
[12:17] <c6h12o6> rick_ did it just start doing this?
[12:17] <c6h12o6> ie: it was working just a few minutes ago?
[12:17] <P8ntKid> selinium: I cant make a new partition becuase i dont have anymore room on my hd. My partitions are set up how ubuntu makes them defualt
[12:17] <Estel> foampeace, are you in tty1?
[12:17] <foampeace> i am i was helping rick_ but he just left
[12:17] <c6h12o6> gah
[12:18] <Jowi> Himo: if no one else know how to repair it, then yeah, i would.
[12:18] <selinium> P8ntKid, so where are you trying to point the /home to?
[12:18] <kingright> ubotu tell fault about  http://ubuntuguide.org
[12:19] <foampeace> rick_:
[12:19] <Himo> Jowi: that's pretty sad to hear, but ok
[12:19] <NoUse> !ubuntuguide
[12:19] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[12:19] <rick_> sorry guys hit ctrl alt f1 and was lost
[12:19] <kingright> ubotu tell fault aboit www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:19] <foampeace> rick_: goto console ctrl+alt+f1
[12:19] <kingright> ubotu tell fault abot www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:19] <rick_> and then
[12:19] <moparfan90> hello. theres a program on mac os x called automater. is there a similar program for linux?
[12:19] <foampeace> rick_: and type the name of the program...what program is it?
[12:19] <P8ntKid> selinium: Ok. I have 3 partitions. hda1 is the boot partition. hda2 is the main filesystem /home partition and hda5 is the swap partition. I want to make a new partition for my /home directory becuase i am about to install gentoo and i want to keep all my config files like my firefox bookmarks fluxbox menus/etc
[12:19] <kingright> ubotu tell fault about www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:19] <HrdwrBoB> moparfan90: you would have to tell us what it does first
[12:20] <selinium> kingright /mgs ubotu tell fault about ubuntuguide
[12:20] <rick_> i can not start any program with gnome
[12:20] <kingright> ty
[12:20] <rick_> or a term window
[12:20] <selinium> kingright, np
[12:20] <Improv> Hey all -- does ubuntu have a statically linked shell installed by default?
[12:20] <HrdwrBoB> Improv: no
[12:20] <HrdwrBoB> Improv: apt-get install sash
[12:20] <foampeace> rick_: ok just sec
[12:20] <propagandhi> anyone tried crossover office 5
[12:20] <Improv> Not useful if the system already needs one
[12:20] <rick_> as of right now it is not doing it
[12:20] <c6h12o6> rick_ how long did it take gnome to load after the login screen?
[12:21] <moparfan90> well it baasicly automatic tacks that are very repetitive or hard... http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/automator/
[12:21] <HrdwrBoB> Improv: most systems don't unless you break them terribly
[12:21] <rick_> 3 sec
[12:21] <rick_> maybe 5
[12:21] <Improv> That is seriously fucked up.
[12:21] <HrdwrBoB> a liveCD will fix it
[12:21] <selinium> propagandhi, yep, works for me, much easier than install wine from scratch
[12:21] <Improv> Oh well. Laters.
[12:21] <HrdwrBoB> Improv: no, most people don't remove core system libraries and terribly break their system
[12:21] <propagandhi> selinium: yeah seems to have been a few enhancements, things seem to be running better for me now
[12:21] <Hobz> that went well
[12:21] <foampeace> rick_: in console type gnome-terminal --display=:0
[12:22] <P8ntKid> Can anybody help?
[12:22] <foampeace> see what it says
[12:22] <selinium> P8ntKid, I thoguht you said you had no room?
[12:22] <rick_> this happened today again as i left the machine on all day. When i came home only firefox would work as i had left a window open
[12:22] <P8ntKid> selinium: Yes. That is why i am asking how to make more room.
[12:23] <selinium> P8ntKid, buy another hd, that is all you can do.
[12:23] <sizzam> im running via a livecd right now, i have a partition somewhere with my /home directory on it, how do i find it?
[12:23] <foampeace> rick_: did you try logggin in after ctrl alt f1 username and pass wrod and run the command above?
[12:23] <P8ntKid> selinium: Could i boot into a live cd and resize my hda2 with my filesystem and stuff on it?
[12:23] <rick_> should i do this now,even though gnome is working properly?
[12:23] <rick_> no
[12:23] <henk> grep on my ubuntu is realy slow (it takes more than a minute to run a file of 120K lines) i've tested on multiple ubuntu / kubuntu (hoary and breezy) machines (server desktop laptop) all have the same issue. Running the same grep on the same dataset on a debian box completes in 0,4 seconds. What is going on here ?
[12:23] <c6h12o6> gnome is working now?
[12:24] <cafuego> P8ntKid: If the disk is full, the only way to make space is by deleting stuff.
[12:24] <DjKritical> Does anyone know how to change the default upload chmod thing for uploads from vsftpd?
[12:24] <selinium> P8ntKid, are your partitions full?
[12:24] <rick_> yes
[12:24] <foampeace> rick_: but you are unable to run programs right?
[12:24] <P8ntKid> selinium: No, not at all
[12:24] <EmergeTW> how does Ubuntu handle installing new programs and such? like gentoo has portage, debian has apt-get etc, how do you go about installing new stuff in Ubuntu?
[12:24] <cribbon> how can i free space from a partition? so i can create a new one.
[12:24] <cafuego> DjKritical: Undoubtedly via an umask directive.
[12:24] <nalioth> EmergeTW: apt-get
[12:24] <foampeace> rick_: yes do it now
[12:24] <selinium> hi cafuego :)
[12:24] <rick_> no now everything is good because i rebooted
[12:24] <DjKritical> cafuego, local_umask perhaps?
[12:24] <foampeace> rick_: does it do it again after reboot?
[12:24] <P8ntKid> selinium: I have plenty of space on my hda2
[12:24] <selinium> P8ntKid, Ooooh, now you are making sense! :) lol
[12:25] <EmergeTW> nalioth: thanks
[12:25] <sizzam> i need to access /dev/hdb1 via livecd, how do i do that?
[12:25] <rick_> only if the machine is on for a while
[12:25] <c6h12o6> hmm
[12:26] <P8ntKid> selinium: so what can i do?
[12:26] <c6h12o6> running out of ram n swap?
[12:26] <cribbon> how can i free space from a partition? so i can create a new one.
[12:26] <rick_> i can hear the hd being accessed then nothing will open
[12:26] <selinium> cafuego, Can you create a new partition from a partially full partition?
[12:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell EmergeTW about repos
[12:26] <moparfan90>  theres a program on mac os x called automater. is there a similar program for linux?
[12:26] <dooglus> I was using Azureus to download 3 torrents.  It was using 400Mb of memory.  I moved the same 3 torrents into utorrent.  It's now using 40Mb.  A 10-fold decrease!  Bye bye Azureus!  :)
[12:26] <foampeace> rick_: maybe just check console and see ps -A look for something defunct and do a killall -9 program
[12:26] <nalioth> EmergeTW: enable universe and multiverse and you'll have thousands of choices
[12:26] <selinium> P8ntKid, I have never had to do what you are asking. I am asking around! :)
[12:26] <foampeace> rick_: next time you have the problem maybe
[12:26] <P8ntKid> selinium: Ok.
[12:26] <rick_> ps -A??
[12:26] <c6h12o6> selinium, you can resize partitions
[12:26] <EmergeTW> nalioth: does it actually use the same packages as debian?
[12:27] <selinium> c6h12o6, cheers,
[12:27] <foampeace> rick_: ps -A is to list processes and running programs
[12:27] <P8ntKid> selinium: I think i have a pretty good idea of how to do it. Im gona try.
[12:27] <selinium> P8ntKid, have you got gparted installed?
[12:27] <P8ntKid> selini
[12:27] <Patrick`> I just installed ubuntu on a thinkpad T20, the video card is an S3 Savage/IX-MV and the xorg package is already installed, but opengl is still running in software mode
[12:27] <P8ntKid> selinium: Yes.
[12:27] <rick_> like top?
[12:27] <foampeace> rick_: yes
[12:27] <Patrick`> other than that, great job guys
[12:27] <selinium> resize the partition, create a new one...
[12:27] <Kalidarn> ah where is mstcorefonts?
[12:27] <selinium> p8 good luck!
[12:27] <Patrick`> but when a game's software renderer runs 100 times faster than using opengl, you start to wonder ...
[12:27] <Kalidarn> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/msttcorefonts
[12:27] <cafuego> !info msttcorefonts
[12:27] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[12:28] <P8ntKid> selinium: I cant resize while its mounted.
[12:28] <Kalidarn> says it doesnt exist
[12:28] <cafuego> In multiverse.
[12:28] <rick_> what is a killall -9 /
[12:28] <Kalidarn> yeah i know i have multiverse
[12:28] <foampeace> rick_: maybe you already checked top to see it something was gombling memory  or using too much cpu or there was a defunct program
[12:28] <cribbon> how can i free space from a partition? so i can create a new one.
[12:28] <selinium> P8ntKid, have you got a live cd?
[12:28] <propagandhi> Patrick`: i'm not sure theres many in here that deserve any of that credit, but there may be
[12:28] <P8ntKid> selinium: Yea. ok thats how you wanted me to do it. Ill brb
[12:28] <Kalidarn> multiverse being the backports?
[12:28] <rick_> no like i said i can  not open a terminal  when this happens
[12:29] <nalioth> EmergeTW: iirc, we have the same things as debian, yes (plus a couple of ubuntu in house things)
[12:29] <cafuego> cribbon: 1) Make a backup of all data. 2) Run a partition resizer (like parted or partition magic).
[12:29] <Patrick`> propagandhi: eh, user support is just as important
[12:29] <Patrick`> hint hint
[12:29] <cafuego> cribbon: Don't forget step 1.
[12:29] <foampeace> rick_: killall -9 firefox-bin will killall firefoxs otherwise if that fails you do kill -9 process id a shown under ps -A
[12:29] <propagandhi> Patrick`: okay fair enough. Do you have a problem?
[12:29] <bordy> bella
[12:29] <cribbon> cafuego, thanks =)
[12:29] <rick_> ok
[12:29] <rick_> i will try this next time it happens, it won't be long
[12:30] <selinium> cafuego, tried to get p8ntKid to backup before resizing his partition... but he laft too quick
[12:30] <foampeace> rick_: by console i mean ctrl+alt+f1. yes you can do this while everything isrunning even X
[12:30] <Patrick`> propagandhi: yeah, glxgears running at 0.3 fps ^_^
[12:30] <cafuego> selinium: Well, it will either work or he'll learn a valuable lesson. It's a win either way.
[12:30] <rick_> I saw in the forums someone else had the same problem
[12:30] <Patrick`> forums imply kernel faffage, which is one of the reasons I switched from debian to ubuntu in the first place
[12:30] <Stormx2> has anyone used multisync / synce?
[12:30] <Himo> Jowi: one favor could you just repeat the commands please? I'm gonna try one more time
[12:30] <selinium> cafuego, indeed! :)
[12:30] <bordy> bella
[12:30] <Patrick`> yeah, I could do it all manually, but I don't have the luxury of time any more :/
[12:31] <grigora> anyone knows how to get Totem to play mpg-s? thanks
[12:31] <cafuego> selinium: 99 out of 100 times resizing wotks fine though.
[12:31] <cafuego> !restricted
[12:31] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[12:31] <cafuego> grigora: Check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:31] <grigora> cafuego: thanks
[12:31] <rick_> cpu is not stressed when this happens but i am not sure about memory
[12:31] <selinium> cafuego, I dont think he had any room to create a backup anyway.... :)
[12:32] <Patrick`> I mean, it's not vital that I get it working, because the game I use the laptop for is fine in pure software mode, but still
[12:32] <DjKritical> Does anyone know how to make a shortcut to a directory that can be used by an ftp client?
[12:32] <Mqueue> is there a place where there i can find how to install JVM
[12:33] <sizzam> what should i put in my fstab to mount the ext3 partition hdb1  into /home/ubuntu/folder
[12:33] <ecobuntu> do you guys know how i can start gdesklets automatically when i log into gnome?  also do you know if gdesklets work with xfce4?
[12:33] <c6h12o6> hmm, what's better, vmware or win4lin?
[12:33] <Patrick`> aha
[12:33] <Patrick`> I need a newer version of xorg
[12:33] <Patrick`> for some reason
[12:33] <DjKritical> ecobuntu, click on System -> Preferences -> Session (You can set things up to load on startup here)
[12:33] <Patrick`> but glxgears was actually running at 100fps, it just seemed slower because the gears appeared to stand still
[12:33] <DjKritical> c6h12o6, vmware
[12:33] <rick_> I really love ubuntu but this issue started after upgrade for hoary
[12:33] <stylish> OS: Linux 2.6.12-9-386 | CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) @ 2400.741 MHz | MemTotal: 507988 kB | Audio:  | Video:  | (eth1) Data Sent: 20702111 (19.7 MiB) | (eth1) Data Recivied: 499116764 (475.9 MiB)
[12:33] <stylish> | Uptime:  | Load Average (15 Mins.): 0%
[12:34] <rick_> from hoary
[12:34] <Patrick`> glxgear -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[12:34] <Patrick`> tee hee
[12:34] <Falcon> glxgear -showthefsckinfps would be shorter
[12:35] <rick_> thanks for you help
[12:35] <cribbon> is there any way to unmount my /home or will i have to use a live cd ?
[12:35] <Himo> Jowi: could you repeat the commands please? I'm gonna try one more time and I didn't write them
[12:35] <Falcon> cribbon: log in as root
[12:36] <Falcon> cribbon: and make sure no user is logged in
[12:36] <newbie_at_linux> how can i upload a file with ssh
[12:36] <Falcon> newbie_at_linux: try sftp or scp
[12:38] <j3fff> newbie_at_linux, try nautilus type sftp://name@server.com
[12:38] <j3fff> newbie_at_linux, then drag and drop like a normal local directory
[12:39] <Patrick`> thing is, the xorg drivers for the S3 video cards were installed by default
[12:39] <Patrick`> so why install them if it's not going to work?
[12:40] <newbie_at_linux> j3fff: do i type that in terminal? i dont know where to type that in nautilus. should i goto to connect to server under the Places menu?
[12:41] <j3fff> newbie_at_linux, press CTRL+L and location bAR will show
[12:41] <marcin> bob2: hi it's me again - sorry to bother
[12:41] <newbie_at_linux> thanks
[12:42] <marcin> bob2: but you were propably right
[12:42] <Elsan> I have a folder with a space in it's name and want to use it for a command line, but it stops at the space, how do I use the folder with the command line?
[12:42] <sveri> Elsan: type "\ " for the space
[12:42] <zim> in a shell script how can i keep COLOUR=red if the script runs another script
[12:42] <marcin> bob2: I installed almost every package that was related with 'locale'
[12:42] <Elsan> sveri: Thanks
[12:42] <marcin> bob2: and now I think that I'm close to solve my problem
[12:42] <zim> ie still be able to user $OLOUR
[12:42] <alekz> how can i add apps to gnome menu ?
[12:43] <zim> ie still be able to user $COLOUR
[12:43] <sveri> Elsan: you're welcome :-)
[12:43] <marcin> bob2: the thing is that I started xterm with -en iso8859-2 option
[12:43] <newbie_at_linux> j3fff: it says  nautiuls cannot display "sftp://username@ip.address please select another viewer and try again.
[12:43] <newbie_at_linux> is that because he has to have an ftp server? he has a ssh server
[12:44] <marcin> bob2: and it says now that "Warning: couldn't find charset data for locale pl_PL.UTF-8; using ISO 8859-1."
[12:44] <j3fff> newbie_at_linux,  is it ftp or sftp?
[12:44] <marcin> bob2: maybe you know what can I do with this thing?
[12:44] <j3fff> newbie_at_linux, try this sftp://athena.cs.auckland.ac.nz
[12:44] <Stormx2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=460725&postcount=51 <-- Any suggestions?
[12:44] <P8ntKid> Arg no luck.
[12:44] <moparfan90> hello. is there a way to make program password protected.. so you cant o-pen them without a password?
[12:45] <rick_> foampeace you still with us?
[12:45] <bob2> moparfan90: what would be the point of that?
[12:45] <mybalzyrchn> hhehe
[12:45] <Stormx2> bob2: He's running porn-o-matic 2005 edition
[12:45] <bob2> Stormx2: time to post to the mailing list, I guess
[12:45] <alekz> how can i add apps to gnome menu ??
[12:45] <j3fff> newbie_at_linux, i can connect to that server so it should ask you for password n username
[12:45] <amias> moparfan90, you could restrict it to only be executable by you
[12:45] <bobby> is it normal for the breezy installer to hang half way through?
[12:45] <bob2> alekz: /msg ubotu smeg
[12:45] <rick_> I just tried what  you described
[12:45] <j3fff> newbie_at_linux, but for that you need ssh installed i think
[12:45] <bob2> bobby: yes, it doesn't work for anyone
[12:46] <rick_> here is error
[12:46] <bob2> bobby: first step is to verify the cd
[12:46] <bobby> oh...I see
[12:46] <moparfan90> bob2, because my family likes to use my computer when they mess theres up and then i can control what they do.. is there?
[12:46] <amias> moparfan90,  chmod 700 pornlauncher
[12:46] <nekostar> bob2, for my dual monitor setup with nvidia i have 2 configurations; one for twinview, and one for seperate X for each monitor.. i talked to the guyz over in xorg and they said to use the -layout layoutname option for X but that only starts x and i cannot use that from what i can tell with gdm... is there a way to use a X option or choose how X boots when gdm calls it opon boot?
[12:46] <bobby> when will it work for anyone?
[12:46] <bob2> moparfan90: that setence makes no sense
[12:46] <hav0k> so, ive been trying to figure out this vlc deal.  which version do i need for ubuntu?
[12:47] <bob2> bobby: ...sarcasm. now verify the cd by booting into expert mode and selecting the "verify cd" option
[12:47] <ekimus> hav0k: videolan?
[12:47] <turner_> hav0k: just apt-get it
[12:47] <amias> moparfan90, make then seperate user accounts so they login seperately
[12:47] <bob2> moparfan90: if they're using your computer, you should be getting them their own account
[12:47] <hav0k> ive tried that but it gives me the "couldnt find package" deal
[12:47] <bob2> moparfan90: then they can't mess anything up at all
[12:47] <bobby> classy :) thank bob2
[12:47] <moparfan90> bob2, well is there a way to set a password to a program
[12:47] <bob2> moparfan90: no, there is no point to that
[12:47] <ekimus> hav0k: enable the universe repos
[12:47] <j3fff> moparfan90, yeah copy your home directory as theirs and then delete your personal stuff if you have locally done config files like ~/.something
[12:47] <bob2> moparfan90: give them a seperate account
[12:47] <alekz> thanks bob2
[12:47] <Patrick`> WHY DOES THIS NOT WORK BY DEFAULT
[12:47] <hav0k> how might i do that
[12:47] <bob2> hav0k: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingtRepositoriesHowto
[12:47] <dooglus> Patrick`: what doesn't work?  your capslock key?
[12:48] <moparfan90> nevermind
[12:48] <bobby> caps makes baby jesus cry] 
[12:48] <ekimus> Patrick`: must be pebcak
[12:48] <amias> j3fff, that doesn't make sense
[12:48] <Patrick`> sorry, never mind
[12:48] <rick_> gtk critical gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure !=null' failed
[12:48] <bob2> nekostar: yes, grep "nolisten" /etc/X11/gdm/ or so, that file will be the one you have to edit
[12:48] <Patrick`> dri for savage card not enabled by default, despite the drivers being open sourced since xfree86 4.2
[12:48] <j3fff> amias, i mean some people dont want to make new accounts because then they will have to reconfigure all the settings like ~/.fonts.conf ~/.asoudrc or whatever so copy it from your home to their after making it
[12:48] <moparfan90> how do i set a passwordd on a .tar.bz2 files
[12:49] <ekimus> nekostar: 'grep nolist /etc/X11/gdm/*' (think bob2 forgot the *)
[12:49] <ekimus> moparfan90: you can't
[12:49] <ago_> hi
[12:49] <ekimus> moparfan90: use gpg for that
[12:49] <j3fff> moparfan90, u put it in your home directory which they shouldnt have access to
[12:49] <moparfan90> is that installed
[12:49] <HrdwrBoB> Patrick`: this is why glxgears has that option.
[12:49] <amias> j3fff, i see , your first description sounded a little more dangerous
[12:49] <HrdwrBoB> because it doesn't matter what they look like.
[12:49] <bob2> ekimus: -r
[12:49] <bob2> moparfan90: stop it
[12:49] <ago_> flash requires /tmp/.esd/socket but I only have /tmp/.esd-1000. Any idea???
[12:49] <HrdwrBoB> glxinfo is what you wanted
[12:50] <bob2> moparfan90: the solution to your problem is for people to have their own account
[12:50] <rick_> foampeace you with us??
[12:50] <bob2> moparfan90: you need to explain why this will not work
[12:50] <Patrick`> HrdwrBoB: it's not that I'm misinterpreting the "benchmark"
[12:50] <ekimus> ekimus: either way it should work :) (probably -r is more likely to hit)
[12:50] <Patrick`> dri actually isn't there
[12:50] <moparfan90> bob2, why what wont work?
[12:50] <j3fff> moparfan90, multiple accounts of users just like WINDOWS!
[12:51] <bob2> moparfan90: wtf
[12:51] <bob2> moparfan90: why are these people using your account?
[12:51] <moparfan90> ok but i just want to know how to do it
[12:51] <HrdwrBoB> Patrick`: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any pertinant information
[12:51] <jbroome> moparfan90: you don't.
[12:51] <moparfan90> i dont know how they know my password
[12:51] <ekimus> moparfan90: so change your password NOW!
[12:51] <j3fff> I know a lot of computer newbies even use different accounts on windows why wont they on linux? same login screen where they type their name and password
[12:51] <bob2> moparfan90: wtf
[12:52] <j3fff> moparfan90, open a shell and -> passwd
[12:52] <Patrick`> HrdwrBoB: yeah, I got someone else on it
[12:52] <ekimus> j3fff: if those guys are using multiple accounts (which implies they know of the existence of these things) they aren't newbies any more...
[12:52] <amias> open a Terminal and type 'passwd username' where username is you username and follow the prompts
[12:52] <moparfan90> bob2, why are you getting mad at me.. i asked a simal question
[12:52] <j3fff> ekimus, no they just want to be cool with their own wallpaper and stuff and their MyDocuments folder :-) they dont know much more than that
[12:53] <moparfan90> ok
[12:53] <moparfan90> ok
[12:53] <bob2> moparfan90: because you're highly confused and ignoring people trying to educate you
[12:53] <bob2> moparfan90: people should not be using your account
[12:53] <moparfan90> i know
[12:53] <bob2> moparfan90: you cannot "password protect" a binary usefully
[12:53] <iiiears> just curious can you disable "sudo' for an account?
[12:53] <moparfan90> o
[12:53] <moparfan90> ok
[12:53] <j3fff> moparfan90, eitther make a new account for your private stuff or make a new account for them
[12:53] <amias> iiiears, /etc/sudoers
[12:54] <dooglus> iiiears: sudo is set up to only work for members of the 'admin' group.  remove an account from 'admin' and they can't sudo any more
[12:54] <Marlowe> iiiears: man sudoers
[12:54] <iiiears> Thank You :)
[12:54] <moparfan90> ok thanks every one .... bye
[12:54] <aphesz> iiiears: visudo as root and edit the file :)
[12:54] <bobby> the disk seems to be hanging on the detection of current partitions...this doesn't normally take long...ideas? (scanning the disk now)
[12:55] <j3fff> if your family members are dumb you can make a fake hidden directory like ~/.config and put your stuff in there LOL
[12:55] <dooglus> iiiears: be careful if you mess with the sudoers file.  first off use 'visudo' instead of editing the file by hand, and secondly, be careful not to mess it up, or you'll not be able to sudo to fix it
[12:55] <bob2> bobby: did you verify the cd?
[12:55] <ago_>  I don't have /tmp/.esd/socket, is it normal?
[12:55] <amias> dooglus, sorry , i'm only just getting used to the deb^H^H^Hubuntu way ;)
[12:56] <iiiears> dooglus - really appreciate the warning - gotten more than a couple hours of experience with live CD rescue tecniques. - lol
[12:56] <Fletch> in
[12:56] <nalioth> iiiears: liveCD rescue? not supposed to need that
[12:57] <cevizoglu> some themes (such as purple haze) make my browser's default text char light gray, which is nearly impossible to read.  how would I change it back?
[12:58] <marz> I have just downloaded the darwinia demo sh file and am wondering how I could install it. Any help?
[12:58] <newbie_at_linux> how can i upload a file using ssh?
[12:58] <NoUse> marz sh ./file.sh
[12:58] <amias> newbie_at_linux, scp file user@host:/dir/file
[12:58] <bob2> newbie_at_linux: or use rsync over ssh, which will be faster
[12:58] <nalioth> newbie_at_linux: use sftp
[12:59] <bob2> newbie_at_linux: rsync -azv ./filename user@hostname:/path/
[12:59] <Marlowe> newbie_at_linux you want scp file user@host:/path/xxx
[12:59] <amias> newbie_at_linux, as long as the other end has scp enabled ( most do )
[12:59] <bobby> bob2, the cd is reported as valid...ideas?
[12:59] <marz> NoUse: I tried that, but it just says Uncompressing, and then nothing happens and nothing appears on my desktop (which is where I placed the sh file)
[12:59] <rick_> could anyone tell me about an error i get wen trying to start gnome from the console???
[12:59] <bob2> bobby: try various combinations of noapic, nolapic and acpi=off as boot options, I guess
[12:59] <Dersursine> Hey, does anyone know the name of the package where  the help files for KDevelop are? I already installed KHelpCenter but they werent included (im running gnome)
[01:00] <bobby> checking the other buffers shows it is stuck on searching partitions (or similar) and that it may take a while
[01:00] <bob2> bobby: if one of them works, file a bug saying which ones you needed, and your hardware
[01:00] <Marlowe> rick: don't ask if you can ask, just leap in :)
[01:00] <NoUse> marz it probably created a directory in your home dir
[01:00] <rick_> here is error
[01:00] <bobby> kk bob2
[01:00] <bob2> bobby: how long has it been doing that?
[01:00] <rick_> gtk critical gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure !=null' failed
[01:00] <teaker1s> #ubuntuforums
[01:00] <runedude> gah
[01:00] <mindwarp> Dersursine - kdevelop3-doc
[01:00] <amias> Dersursine, you could find out by doing 'apt-cache search KDevelop | grep help'
[01:00] <marz> NoUse: hmm... it's not there either. Is it possible its somewhere in my filesystem?
[01:00] <runedude> i am deeply ashamed in the performance of a ubuntu box
[01:00] <rick_> thanks marlowe
[01:00] <Dersursine> ah, cool. thanks
[01:00] <NoUse> marz not unless you ran that as root
[01:01] <runedude> it cant do such a simple task without totally locking me out of the network
[01:01] <NoUse> marz or rather with sudo
[01:01] <aeon17x> Is there any way to get ALL of the screensavers?
[01:01] <Marlowe> rick_ np, though no idea where your problem is
[01:01] <zim> HELP how do i carry a var from one script to the next i need to LOG_FILE="/var/logs/log123" then call another script in that have echo "foo" >> $LOG_FILE
[01:01] <marz> NoUse: nope, I didn't use sudo... I'll see if I can find it
[01:01] <bobby> bob2, we've let it sit for about five minutes and two minutes...the hdds are being accessed but nothing happens
[01:01] <NoUse> rick_ did your upgrade to breezy finish successfully?
[01:01] <runedude> i've tried google, i've tried here, everyones just told me to read a site which didnt even apply to the problem i'm having
[01:01] <rick_> thx anyway
[01:01] <rick_> yes
[01:01] <mindwarp> rick_ www.microsoft.com
[01:01] <dooglus> rick_: I think I see that error myself
[01:01] <NoUse> marz find ~ -iname '*darwin*'
[01:01] <amias> zim: export VAR
[01:02] <rick_> i ran automatix after install
[01:02] <Stormx2> If anyone has every used synce/multisync, could you have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=460725&postcount=51 - I'm going to bed now, but I'd be very thankfull if you could leave a post! Night all!
[01:02] <zim> amias: how do i do that
[01:02] <rick_> no thanks mindwarp
[01:02] <Marlowe> zim echo the var to a /tmp file, then reread it
[01:02] <NoUse> rick_ what does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade say?
[01:03] <hav0k> ok, well ive got the vlc... but now, the sound wont work
[01:03] <marz> NoUse: all I can find is the original sh file I started with
[01:03] <rafael> ae
[01:03] <amias> zim, just like that ,  LOG_FILE="/var/logs/log123" ; export LOG_FILE
[01:03] <rick_> hold one
[01:03] <NoUse> marz make sure you downloaded he file correctly and it isn't corrupted, otherwise check with the darwinia people
[01:03] <marz> NoUse: K, I'll find another server to DL from
[01:03] <funkyHat> ok, i discovered the reason samba isn't working is firestarter
[01:04] <zim> ty
[01:04] <funkyHat> what policies do i need to add to samba to make it work?
[01:04] <amias> zim, np
[01:04] <CarlF1> gaim - is there an option to get a history of lines typed, kinda like uparrow in bash?
[01:04] <funkyHat> *add to firestarter
[01:04] <funkyHat> CarlF1, ctrl+up
[01:05] <zim> it works great
[01:05] <bob2> bobby: how big are they?
[01:05] <rick_> nouse here is output
[01:05] <rick_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[01:05] <CarlF1> funkyHat:  thanks.  any idea if there is a setting to make it just up?
[01:05] <sadafadil> I can not believe people still pay for software..
[01:05] <bobby> 20 and 40gig
[01:05] <NoUse> rick_ you rebooted since you upgraded?
[01:05] <bobby> we are unplugging things and checking
[01:05] <rick_> yes it was i week ago or so
[01:05] <NoUse> rick_ you might just want to do a fresh install
[01:05] <bob2> bobby: if you switch to vt2 and hit "dmesg", do you have anything about the disks at the end of it?
[01:06] <Marlowe> sadfadil: Bill crapped my files for the last time - all my work's on Linux from here on
[01:06] <rick_> i may go back to hoary
[01:06] <bobby> it just finishes setting up the partitioner stage before it dies
[01:06] <NoUse> rick_ can you put your sources.list in pastebin?
[01:06] <bobby> bob2, I'll check
[01:06] <rick_> pastebin??
[01:06] <NoUse> rick_ read what ubotu sent you
[01:06] <bas> i just upgraded to breezy. now when i let my laptop sleep/hibernate it automagically logs me out... why isnt my xsession restored?
[01:07] <funkyHat> :S how do i reattach toolbars to windows?
[01:07] <rick_> oh ok
[01:07] <SbCl3> (tilp:5705): libglade-WARNING **: could not find signal handler 'on_get_idlist1_activate'.
[01:07] <rick_> hold on
[01:07] <SbCl3> (tilp:5705): libglade-WARNING **: could not find signal handler 'on_get_idlist1_activate'.
[01:07] <SbCl3> i'm having troubles with tilp, it's gui isn't working at all because it isn't finding libglade. here's one of the  command-line
[01:07] <newbie_at_linux> I am getting this error when trying to install software on Ubuntu. http://pastebin.com/413992 Can anyone help?
[01:08] <SbCl3> why might tilp not find libglade? all of them are installed
[01:08] <NoUse> newbie_at_linux it looks like the opera deb might be corrupt
[01:08] <mindwarp> newbie_at_linux - redownload the deb
[01:08] <rick_> what was the command to bring up the sources list nouse
[01:09] <bas> newbie_at_linux, its a debian etch package, which has a newer dpkg
[01:09] <NoUse> rick_ you can use gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:09] <bobby> bob2, we unplugged one of the hdds and the partitioner loaded correctly (one of the net work cards stopped working...but yeah)
[01:09] <bob2> bobby: odd
[01:10] <NoUse> !tell newbie_at_linux about opera
[01:10] <bobby> very
[01:11] <RoseMayFears> anybody here able to install epson lx-300+ in their ubuntu???
[01:11] <rick_> i posted it nouse
[01:11] <solidgroove> where is the file that is modprobe\modules.conf?
[01:11] <sword> hey is this working for anyone?
[01:11] <solidgroove> i need to add some options
[01:11] <sword> http://media.putfile.com/Kanye79
[01:12] <NoUse> rick_ yeah I think you might need to do a fresh install
[01:12] <rick_> why??
[01:12] <RoseMayFears> my driver has prob it will print but there are prob..
[01:12] <Belutz> sword, i think it works for me
[01:12] <NoUse> rick_ cause automatix broke something and I can't figure out what
[01:13] <rick_> ah man
[01:13] <j3fff> NoUse, are you inside the matrix ? :O
[01:13] <rick_> everything works perfectly except that one glitch
[01:14] <j3fff> oh you sand matix
[01:14] <NoUse> j3fff yeah hehe
[01:14] <sword> Belutz, what plugins are you using and what browser?
[01:14] <sword> I am  having trouble getting it to work
[01:14] <rick_> automatix adds some repos ir self
[01:14] <Belutz> sword, firefox with mplayer as plugin
[01:14] <newbie_at_linux> i changed my sources.list now what do i have to do? can i push reload in synaptic for it to start working?
[01:15] <NoUse> rick_ yeah I'd suggest sticking to the normal ways of upgrading ubuntu
[01:15] <j3fff> newbie_at_linux, yes
[01:15] <sword> hmm which firefoxversion are you using?
[01:15] <sword> it just worked for me in mozilla
[01:15] <rick_> could i just reinstall gnome
[01:15] <NoUse> rick_ you can try
[01:15] <inade> Is there a channel for french from Asia, Africa and/or America?
[01:15] <Fletch> I only installed the base version of ubuntu and I want to get a window manager (XCFE) just so I can use xmms, I installed xserver-xorg, whats next?
[01:16] <Belutz> sword, mozilla firefox 1.0.7
[01:16] <rick_> i did update the normal way automatix just configs audio video ect
[01:16] <bolrod> Fletch: x-client
[01:16] <El_Che> Fletch: xfce?
[01:16] <kyncani> inade: #ubuntu-fr ?
[01:16] <bolrod> probably apt-get install fluxbox will do fine
[01:16] <bolrod> it'll just select a bunch of needed packages
[01:16] <inade> That one uses a local slang from France, far from being understable by other francophons across the world
[01:16] <Fletch> El_Che, yeah tahts the one
[01:17] <rick_> thanks for the help nouse
[01:17] <Fletch> bolrod, whats x-client?
[01:17] <NoUse> rick_ sure good luck
[01:17] <nalioth> inade: there is not a non-France french channel, to my knowledge
[01:17] <sword> man Belutz Mozilla has been much more stable and reliable for me than Firefox
[01:18] <bobby> same
[01:18] <Belutz> sword, use mozilla then :)
[01:18] <rick_> love the pastebin though
[01:18] <inade> Oh. I tried ubuntu-fr.  Not a good place to be.
[01:18] <bolrod> Fletch: to connect to your x-server
[01:18] <runedude> is there anyway to bridge 2 interfaces?
[01:18] <jonny> I cant figure out GNOME art
[01:18] <jonny> where is it and how do you use it in ubuntu?
[01:19] <inade> tx for the info, nalioth.
[01:19] <bolrod> jonny: search package in synaptic
[01:19] <bolrod> right click on it
[01:19] <bolrod> options
[01:19] <bobby> bob2, the windows hard drive is screwed...dmesg confirms :)
[01:19] <bolrod> then the tab "installed files"
[01:19] <bolrod> or something
[01:19] <nebular> ok I restarted and now swat and cupsys aren't working. I haven't changed anything so I have no idea where to look to see what's going on
[01:19] <jonny> bolrod: I already downloaded it, I just cant locate it
[01:19] <bolrod> Right click.. options.. search in the options
[01:19] <bolrod> you can get a list of installed files
[01:19] <bolrod> -.-
[01:20] <jonny> ok thx
[01:20] <bob2> bobby: hah
[01:20] <runedude> im ignored, thank you.
[01:20] <jonny> bolrod: where do you right click?
[01:21] <bolrod> on the package
[01:21] <bobby> on the mouse :D
[01:21] <bolrod> you want to search the files of
[01:21] <jonny> ok lol
[01:21] <bolrod> probably somewhere on the screen
[01:21] <jonny> in synaptic right
[01:21] <bolrod> whilest sitting behind the computer
[01:21] <bolrod> in your house
[01:21] <bolrod> probably
[01:21] <bolrod> hehe ;p
[01:22] <Fletch> How do I mount a flash drive?
[01:22] <bhearsum> my printer is cutting off the tops and the bottoms of the pages. for example, when i print something from firefox i do not see the url or page numbers. it's an lj2100 and takes US Letter. CUPS is setup for US Letter so i'm at a bit of a loss
[01:22] <bobby> can't forget snacks :D
[01:22] <jonny> bolrod: I cant find the package :( thats my problem
[01:23] <bhearsum> Fletch: if its the first usb mass storage device probably 'mount /dev/sda1 /mount/point'
[01:23] <bolrod> ?
[01:23] <Fletch> thanks
[01:23] <runedude> hey guys i got a q
[01:23] <jonny> bolrod: I dont understand
[01:23] <bolrod> unless you already have a SATA drive or something
[01:23] <runedude> how far can a ubuntu box fly?
[01:23] <bolrod> jonny: what are you looking for
[01:23] <runedude> if u throw it
[01:23] <jonny> GNOME-art
[01:23] <bolrod> runedude: pretty far.. I guess
[01:24] <bolrod> jonny: what about GNOME-art
[01:24] <bob2> Fletch: if you're using gnome, "plug it in"
[01:24] <tescoil> bhearsum, aren't url and page numbers both firefox options?  (haven't pulled up firefox to check).
[01:24] <zblach> where are programs installed to by default?
[01:24] <jonny> runedude: watsa matter with ubuntu?
[01:24] <runedude> with my anger ive had with this stupid distro, prolly about 50 feet
[01:24] <bhearsum> tescoil: they are enabled
[01:24] <Fletch> nar just at command prompt
[01:24] <runedude> jonny: its not working
[01:24] <runedude> its just simply NOT working.
[01:24] <bhearsum> tescoil: i also cut the bottom lines on a page half cut off sometimes
[01:24] <bob2> zblach: binaries go in /usr/bin/, like on any other FHS-compliant system
[01:24] <jonny> bolrod: I dont know where its located
[01:24] <runedude> ive asked left and right for help, everyones turned me to pages that make no sense to me
[01:24] <jonny> I cant open it etc.
[01:24] <runedude> i've read manpage after manpage
[01:24] <bolrod> runedude: whats the problem
[01:24] <bolrod> what is not working
[01:24] <runedude> bolrod: i just want to almost "bridge" 2 interfaces
[01:24] <bolrod> jonny: search the gnome art package in synaptic
[01:25] <runedude> so they can both share the same internet connection.
[01:25] <zblach> bob2, azureus
[01:25] <bolrod> runedude: oh...
[01:25] <bolrod> heh?
[01:25] <runedude> someone must have done it before
[01:25] <jonny> bolrod: iv already installed it!
[01:25] <runedude> out of all these 700 ppl in this room
[01:25] <bolrod> jonny: SEARCH IT
[01:25] <bolrod> right click
[01:25] <runedude> err 564*
[01:25] <bolrod> properties
[01:25] <funkyHat> runedude, why?
[01:25] <bolrod> search in properties
[01:25] <runedude> funkyHat: ?
[01:25] <bob2> zblach: then it depends entirely on how you installed it
[01:25] <bolrod> not going to explain this again...
[01:25] <tescoil> bhearsum -- hm, dunno.
[01:25] <bolrod> runedude: what is the situation
[01:25] <bolrod> :)
[01:25] <Orborde> I need help with X/fglrx....
[01:26] <NoUse> runedude so you have two NIC cards and you want one to user the others connection?
[01:26] <bolrod> you have 1 computer.. 2 NIC's ?
[01:26] <runedude> bolrod: i have 2 interfaces on a box, ok?
[01:26] <zblach> bob2, i'm just looking for a compliant place to put it
[01:26] <funkyHat> runedude, why do you want to bridge 2 interfaces so that they use the same connection? and what other devices do you have on your network?
[01:26] <runedude> funkyHat: i have a switch in my room, and i want my ubuntu box to serve as a router
[01:26] <runedude> my ubuntu box has wireless and a ethernet cord
[01:26] <bob2> zblach: absolutely not /usr/ then
[01:26] <bob2> zblach: /usr/local/azurues/ or something
[01:26] <NoUse> runedude have you tried using firestarter?
[01:26] <runedude> I have a DHCP server on ubuntu, so my computers can connect to my ubuntu box to get to the internet
[01:26] <runedude> NoUse: that didnt work
[01:27] <bolrod> erh
[01:27] <bolrod> runedude: so.... your ubuntu is connected to the internet
[01:27] <runedude> halfway thru its installation, the kernel paniced >.<
[01:27] <runedude> bolrod: yes
[01:27] <bolrod> and you want to connect through the ubuntu with a laptop
[01:27] <bolrod> I guess
[01:27] <runedude> not a laptop
[01:27] <bob2> runedude: that sounds like broken hardware
[01:27] <runedude> i have about 4 computers in my room
[01:27] <runedude> and ubuntu is going to serve as my "internet" source so to speak
[01:27] <bolrod> ok.. so.. set gateway of the computers to the ip-adress of the ubuntu box
[01:27] <bolrod> doesn't that work?
[01:28] <funkyHat> runedude, which interface is the one connected to the internet? wired or wireless?
[01:28] <runedude> bolrod: they are able to connect to the ubuntu box, but.. i cant access the internet from there
[01:28] <runedude> funkyHat: the internet connection is wireless
[01:28] <bolrod> hmm
[01:28] <runedude> my computers are connected to the ubuntu box via wires
[01:28] <nebular> ok I"ve done some digging and when I restart cupsys or samba I'm getting segemntation faults
[01:28] <nebular> I'm not sure why
[01:28] <NoUse> runedude have you tried shorewall?
[01:29] <runedude> NoUse: no, i dont really understand that kind of stuff :(
[01:29] <runedude> i really havent done routing before
[01:29] <bolrod> runedude: what are the other boxes using as gateway
[01:29] <runedude> bolrod: 192.168.0.1
[01:29] <NoUse> runedude thats unfortunate because thats how this stuff is done
[01:29] <runedude> is my private lan
[01:29] <bolrod> and the ip of the ubuntu.. is that ip?
[01:29] <bolrod> :)
[01:29] <runedude> 192.168.0.1 is the IP of the ubuntu box
[01:29] <cyphase> what have you guys been saying about the art manager?
[01:29] <runedude> and the wireless lan IP is 192.168.1.115
[01:29] <cyphase> i got logged off
[01:29] <bolrod> ????????????
[01:29] <runedude> there are 2 ips on the box
[01:29] <tescoil> Attempts to remove totem or Sound-Juicer raise dependency flags of ubuntu-desktop.  The ubuntu-desktop package description says ok to remove but not recommended.  Is there another way around this?
[01:29] <NoUse> runedude get IPCop or another dedicated firewall distro
[01:30] <runedude> 1 is wireless, another one is wires
[01:30] <runedude> NoUse: well i was hoping to use ubuntu
[01:30] <j3fff> m0n0wall is good
[01:30] <NoUse> runedude what you want to do invovled IP TAbles which is easliy one of the most complex parts of Linux
[01:30] <bolrod> yes... and the wireless connects to some other router?
[01:30] <bolrod>  / access point
[01:30] <funkyHat> tescoil, no, there is no way around it, but there is also not a huge problem with removing ubuntu-desktop
[01:31] <SlipAway172> who here runs ubuntu on a Via C3 CPU?
[01:31] <bolrod> runedude: where does the wireless connect to?
[01:31] <NoUse> runedude I'm trying to supply with GUI frontends to IP tables but you keep telling me you don't understand them
[01:31] <runedude> bolrod: the router downstairs
[01:31] <runedude> which is the access point
[01:31] <bolrod> what ip does it have
[01:31] <runedude> NoUse: i dont use GUIs
[01:31] <runedude> bolrod: the router downstairs is 192.168.1.1
[01:31] <MaTaKs> who plays runescape here :)
[01:31] <NoUse> runedude so googel "IP Tables" and start reading
[01:32] <holycow> anyone using the open office preloader applet in breezy?
[01:32] <bolrod> yes.. ip tables... :)
[01:32] <runedude> but all i get is a huge thing for just 1 simple little thing
[01:32] <holycow> i don't think it works with oo.org 2 ... just curious if anyone has managed to get it runing properly
[01:32] <tescoil> funkyHat -- okay.  Where do I go to shut off application associations, like sound-juicer popping up when I put in a CD?
[01:32] <NoUse> runedude this really isn't as simple as you think
[01:32] <runedude> NoUse: it was simple to do it on windows :(
[01:32] <bolrod> runedude: you need to forward everything incomming from 192.168.0.0/some number
[01:32] <funkyHat> tescoil, system > preferences > removable drives and media
[01:32] <runedude> bolrod: yea
[01:32] <bolrod> to 192.168.1.1
[01:33] <bolrod> :)\
[01:33] <runedude> problem is.. how.
[01:33] <bolrod> ip tables
[01:33] <tescoil> funkyHat: TNX.
[01:33] <runedude> i dont know the syntax.
[01:33] <runedude> i tried it
[01:33] <bolrod> but cant you just make your ethernet card 192.168.1.some number
[01:33] <runedude> why would i do that?
[01:33] <bolrod> and then have the other computers have 192.168.1.1 as gateway
[01:33] <runedude> its a private lan
[01:34] <runedude> once the traffic hits the ubuntu box, the ubuntu box doesnt know what to do with it
[01:34] <runedude> thats the problem im having
[01:34] <FujiHOST> what command do I use to compile a file using the make command. the file name i want to compile is 855resolution-1.4.tgz
[01:34] <bolrod> routing tables
[01:34] <bolrod> or something
[01:34] <bolrod> ip tables
[01:34] <Orborde> What is the int10 X module?
[01:34] <NoUse> runedude you'll have to learn ip tables, there might be an ip tables channel here but I'm not sure
[01:35] <Parisi> Isnt there a graphival interface for ubuntu that could do that>
[01:35] <runedude> hmm
[01:35] <Parisi> Grapgical*
[01:35] <kevogod> *Graphical
[01:35] <NoUse> Parisi he doesn't want a GUI
[01:35] <nalioth> runedude: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[01:35] <Parisi> aww, i cant type with 1 hand
[01:35] <Parisi> Oh, i see, i came here late.
[01:35] <Mr_Milenko> wait what?
[01:35] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[01:36] <Parisi> Then iptables is his best bet, a book on it would be nice.
[01:36] <NigelS> FujiHOST: that's an archive you - you need to extract it first and within it there'll be the files and instructions, extract it with tar -xzvf ./filename
[01:36] <Dersursine> Does anyone know of any good documentation for KDevelop? kdevelop3-docs is largely incomplete
[01:36] <nickrud> FujiHOST, why not just use the package in ubuntu?
[01:36] <FujiHOST> ok thanks
[01:36] <bob2> Dersursine: might have more luck in #kubuntu
[01:37] <Dersursine> im using gnome, i hate kde :-D
[01:37] <Dersursine> ill give it a shot tho
[01:37] <FujiHOST> what package.. do you mean synaptic
[01:37] <thrush> runedude: havent been following thread u trying to setup a dhcp server?
[01:37] <bob2> FujiHOST: install the 855resolution package
[01:37] <FujiHOST> i did
[01:37] <Spudchat> what do i add at the end of a shell script to make the prompt return on a new line?
[01:37] <Parisi> Is kubuntu faster handling X with kde then Ubuntu?
[01:38] <nickrud> FujiHOST, yeah, 855resolution is in universe repository
[01:38] <bob2> FujiHOST: so why are you trying to compile it?
[01:38] <runedude> thrush: i already got the dhcp server working
[01:38] <bob2> Spudchat: that's a problem with your shell
[01:38] <bob2> Spudchat: 'echo' will probably 'fix' it tho
[01:38] <holycow> Parisi, kubuntu is ubuntu.  all you are doing is installing kde and removing gnome
[01:38] <ETSME> runedude:  http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.tunnel.gre.html    I think you might find this helpful, 'cause i m looking for the same problem, and still searching
[01:38] <WebLOCH> hey guys, gdm keeps warning me permissions for .drmc are incorrect, it says i need to set it to "user" and "644", does that mean "chmod user"  or "chmod myusername" ?
[01:39] <Ex-Cyber> anyone know how to make mods sound good on Rhythmbox? I'm playing an s3m right now and it sounds like it's 8bit/8KHz or something :/
[01:39] <bob2> WebLOCH: what does 'ls -ld ~/.dmrc' print?
[01:39] <NigelS> runedude: you need ip forwarding going?
[01:39] <Spudchat> well the line is echo -n "Your answer is $answer
[01:39] <FujiHOST> because i installed the package using synaptic but the problem is that no new resolutions have come up. it also says i have to edit a line in a file
[01:39] <WebLOCH> -rw-r--r--  1 baris baris 26 2005-10-31 05:12 /home/baris/.dmrc
[01:39] <WebLOCH> bob2, -rw-r--r--  1 baris baris 26 2005-10-31 05:12 /home/baris/.dmrc
[01:40] <FujiHOST> in the Device section of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4:
[01:40] <Spudchat> echo -n "Your answer is "$answer
[01:40] <bob2> FujiHOST: it seems you're not following any actual documentation at all, and just guessing
[01:40] <FujiHOST> sorry im following a tutorial
[01:40] <bob2> FujiHOST: compiling things will not make your guesses more accurate
[01:40] <FujiHOST> but its hard to follow
[01:40] <reiki> well... I have to shut down and insert my XP drive and reboot. I can't program my Harmony remote from linux. First time into XP since August 16th :)
[01:40] <FujiHOST> i cant find the file to edit now
[01:40] <FujiHOST> in the Device section of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: that is the file im spose to edit but i cant find it
[01:41] <NigelS> FujiHOST: ubuntu uses xorg, you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:42] <FujiHOST> ok thanks
[01:42] <NigelS> FujiHOST: add the resolutions that you want, you'll see where the current ones are and then restart the X server - with /etc/init.d/gdm restart most probably
[01:42] <EmergeTW> Not ten minutes ago I was installing from the cd when my laptop cut off... now I get a kernel panic while the installation is trying to start up again =\
[01:42] <FujiHOST> ok thanks
[01:43] <NoUse> EmergeTW why did the laptop cut out?
[01:43] <EmergeTW> NoUse: not entirely sure
[01:44] <NoUse> EmergeTW that sounds like it could be a hardware problem, possibly a CPU that is overheating
[01:44] <jonny> gnome art, not working
[01:44] <jonny> it quits after all themes have been downloaded
[01:44] <EmergeTW> NoUse: hmm.. actually it is working again now, I had to bang it on my knee a couple times
[01:45] <EmergeTW> NoUse: I am getting really tired of hp-compaq sending the laptop back to me without fixing this problem
[01:45] <CookedGryphon> when is the final openoffice goign to be included in the ubuntu repositories?
[01:45] <Parisi> Its a hp-compaq, what do you think.
[01:46] <EmergeTW> Every now and then when you move the damn thing or if you look at it wrong it cuts off, then if you beat it a little bit it will come back to life
[01:46] <WebLOCH> hey guys, gdm keeps warning me permissions for .drmc are incorrect, it says i need to set it to "user" and "644", can anyone help ?
[01:46] <CookedGryphon> WebLOCH: I have that problem too
[01:46] <NigelS> runedude: did you get your gateway going?
[01:46] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, do you have /home as a separate partition ?
[01:47] <CookedGryphon> i've tried all kinds of things and nothign seems to work, please tell me if you find out how to fix it
[01:47] <CookedGryphon> yeah i do
[01:47] <FujiHOST> It shows the widescreen resolution is already there but in preferences using the screen resolution program i dont get the option of this resolution
[01:47] <NoUse> WebLOCH from your home dir; chown yourusername:yourusername .drmc && chmod 644 .drmc
[01:47] <CookedGryphon> NoUse that's.. well.. no use
[01:47] <FujiHOST> where else can i change my screen rez?
[01:47] <NoUse> CookedGryphon what?
[01:48] <Parisi> What is a good PC laptop these days anyways?
[01:48] <taucher> hallihall
[01:48] <CookedGryphon> NoUse the chown username:username etc.
[01:48] <CookedGryphon> it doesn't work
[01:49] <taucher> got a problem need help
[01:49] <NoUse> CookedGryphon what kind of error does it return?
[01:49] <NigelS> FujiHOST: CTRL+ALT++ will cycle through your configured resolutions - is the res you've got in the file set to the default?
[01:49] <MaTaKs> is there a command in linux to know what are the specs of your computer, just like on windows you can do dxdiag on run promt.
[01:50] <CookedGryphon> NoUse it doesn't return any errors, its just that the error message still comes up even though the permissions are set correctly
[01:50] <FujiHOST> its strange because its the only option in xorg.conf file
[01:50] <NoUse> CookedGryphon ah
[01:50] <taucher> friend of mine just installed ubuntu but as soon as he starts ubutu is takting loads of screenshots
[01:50] <XTR> Oh hi. How would I get freenx to show up in my synapic thing?
[01:50] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, NoUse, I had this problem yesterday and fixed it by setting the permissions from VI in recovery mode
[01:50] <Parisi> bbl
[01:50] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, NoUse, today however it didnt work
[01:50] <bob2> XTR: /msg ubotu freenx
[01:50] <taucher> please need help
[01:51] <XTR> Thanks man.
[01:51] <bob2> taucher: please need question
[01:51] <taucher> ubuntu it taking screenshots allt ime long.. without ending
[01:51] <CarlF1> gimp - how do you draw a circle?
[01:51] <CookedGryphon> WebLOCH: ... interesting, what difference would that make?
[01:51] <xfelon> Anyone use a bnc?
[01:51] <NigelS> FujiHOST: you're looking at the "screen" section of the file - and for the value defaultdepth you have a corresponding stanza that lists the resolutions that you want?
[01:51] <FujiHOST> yup
[01:52] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, none it just h appened to be the order in which i did it last time, after it had complained i logged out went to recovery mode and edited it
[01:52] <WebLOCH> s/edit/alter
[01:52] <taucher> any ideas
[01:52] <taucher> ?
[01:52] <NoUse> WebLOCH I wonder if deleting .drmc would fix it, maybe move it to /tmp and restart gdm and see what happens
[01:52] <NigelS> FujiHOST: the monitor is set correctly? it might balk if it's being asked to do a refresh rate it can't handle
[01:52] <FujiHOST> in that file it only gives me one rez at lots of different depths... the rez it show is the one I want to use but it is not giving me the option to choose it anywhere even though its the only one in that xorg.conf file
[01:52] <CookedGryphon> NoUse, tried it
[01:52] <CookedGryphon> didn't work
[01:53] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, what did it do tho?
[01:53] <FujiHOST> Not sure if monitor is setusing a sony laptop correctly im
[01:53] <FujiHOST> following a tutorial http://usefulinc.com/edd/notes/UbuntuOnSonyVaioTRSeries
[01:53] <CookedGryphon> it came up with the error, it didn't try to create a new file or anythign
[01:55] <N6REJ> anyone succesfully used the "interchange" package?
[01:55] <N6REJ> or maybe zen-cart?
[01:55] <xfelon> is there a upgrade command, like instead of sudo apt-get program, sudo apt-upgrade program?
[01:55] <taucher> problem is half solved thanks for no help
[01:55] <weob> anyone built new wine beta on breezy?
[01:56] <jonny> anyone use gnOMEart heRe?
[01:56] <N6REJ> xfelon:  I believe its sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:56] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, NoUse  im gonna log out and try that again
[01:56] <jonny> sorry for the caps
[01:56] <NoUse> WebLOCH CookedGryphon http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77143
[01:56] <NigelS> xfelon: asking to install it again should retrieve the latest version or do nothing if you already have the latest.  Or run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade the entire system
[01:56] <NoUse> WebLOCH CookedGryphon other people are seeing this too
[01:56] <Toma-> !nvidia
[01:56] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:56] <Jason_in_space> hi, i can't switch to screen resolutions higher than 1024x768 in gnome allthough i tweaked /etc/X11/xorg.conf , is there anything else i can do ?
[01:57] <WebLOCH> NoUse,  its because i had to reinstall ubuntu but didnt mount /home because i didnt want to have to format and lose the data
[01:57] <Zyme> i have a sandisk 256mb flash mp3 player and breezy...does anybody know why transferring MP3s via usb to it doesnt work?  it will put the files on the player, but then when i try to play them either it will lock up, or some of them wont work, or some other strange combination of undesired events
[01:57] <weob> nobody's tried building from source?
[01:57] <Alinux> hello, I'm interested to translate,ubuntu text installer...what's templates or packege's exact name ?
[01:57] <Toma-> Jason_in_space: put your xorg.conf on a pastebin and gimme the link
[01:57] <NigelS> Jason_in_space: you restarted the x server after changing the file?
[01:58] <Nomikos> anyone booted an eMac off of the live CD? my screen turns black after the brown Ubuntu splash screen listing stuff being launched
[01:58] <Jason_in_space> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3965
[01:58] <NoUse> WebLOCH I'm running breezy and I don't have that file
[01:58] <Jason_in_space> NigelS, yes, and after that i rebooted
[01:59] <WebLOCH> NoUse, I am too, but i do
[01:59] <weob> i have all the dependencies besides fgrlx- but i dont have ati - so i dunno what's going on
[01:59] <oasiao> alright i want to know if anyone knows of journal of diary software diary i could download for ubuntu to use on my computer
[01:59] <WebLOCH> NoUse and as I said, i have just reinstalled so its part of a fresh installation
[01:59] <Toma-> Jason_in_space: can your monitor do all those resolutions?
[01:59] <CookedGryphon> NoUse WebLOCH i upgraded from hoary without a fresh install
[01:59] <Nomikos> oasiao: opensource blog to run on PHP/MySQL?
[02:00] <Jason_in_space> it can do up to 1920x1600 or something
[02:00] <jonny> anyone use gnome art?
[02:00] <grodius> Hey guys i'm transferring files to an ipod and its going rediculously slow, like it never would on windows. Is there some kind of configuring i have to do in linux?
[02:00] <oasiao> i want something to run locally on my computer
[02:00] <jonny> grodius: what program
[02:00] <jonny> ?
[02:00] <grodius> jonny i just dragged and dropped the files
[02:00] <Toma-> grodius: make sure its using usb 2.0
[02:00] <Nomikos> oasiao: it can :-) i run LAMP for various local-only things
[02:00] <jonny> oh, are you familiar with synaptic?
[02:01] <grodius> toma- im using firewire? should i switch to usb?
[02:01] <moparfan90> whats a program thats like dreamweaver? for linux
[02:01] <Toma-> Jason_in_space: i cant see any problems here...
[02:01] <Jason_in_space> in system>preferences>screen resolutions there are only 3 options: 1024x768,800x600,640x480
[02:01] <Toma-> grodius: ahh firewire. not my area sorry
[02:01] <alfred> im trying to install some programs but im getting errors with breezy
[02:01] <oasiao> oh ok let me check it out :P
[02:01] <Nomikos> oasiao: otherwise, why not simply use (a folder of) textfiles
[02:01] <alfred> it says stdin: not in gzip format
[02:01] <Jason_in_space> toma, i know, it looks ok
[02:01] <holycow> *quote* nuttychicken ok sorry not to sound stupid but all i've ever used was Visio and the visual studio, when i start my new job they use all linux based software so i'm kinda lokst and tryin to figure out whats going on *quote*
[02:01] <holycow> holy schneikes
[02:01] <Toma-> Jason_in_space: have you tried checking out your xorg.logs?
[02:02] <holycow> some noob is starting a job where they use all linux based software
[02:02] <holycow> wow
[02:02] <holycow> thats the first time i've seen that
[02:02] <holycow> usually its the other way around
[02:02] <Jason_in_space> Toba, nop, where are those logs ?
[02:02] <grodius> Toma- so what if i switched to USB
[02:02] <jonny> grodius: are you familiar with synaptic?
[02:02] <Toma-> usually tail -75 /var/log/Xorg.0.log can give you useful results
[02:03] <Toma-> grodius: id say usb2.0 is better supported than firewire on linux, but thats just a guess
[02:03] <Alinux> hello, I'm interested to translate,ubuntu text installer...what's templates or package's exact name ?
[02:03] <moparfan90> does anyone know a program thats equal to dreamweaver for linux?
[02:04] <Alinux> moparfan90, nvu.com
[02:04] <holycow> moparfan90, the closest you will get is quanta plus
[02:04] <holycow> apt-cache search quanta
[02:04] <Toma-> moparfan90: if youre willing to splash a bit of money, crossover office runs dreamweaver fine
[02:04] <nekostar> it seems ive tracked down my problem with mplayer i hope >_< i can play regular files with it, but when i get to mkv files it doesnt seem to take advantage of the vorbis-tools package at all? not even when i select ogg-vorbis as the decoder for the file... and ive got no problems in xine or totem.. any clue what i could do to fix that?
[02:04] <Belutz> Jason_in_space, are you sure about the HorizSync and VertRefresh of your monitor?
[02:04] <oasiao> J #linux
[02:05] <Jason_in_space> yes, yet i can't understand why gnome doesn't allow me to select higher resolutions
[02:06] <Jason_in_space> eventhough they are listed on xorg.conf
[02:06] <NoUse> Jason_in_space have you looked at the fix resolution howto on the wiki?
[02:06] <Toma-> Jason_in_space: did you fine any lines that started with (EE) in your logs?
[02:06] <feugan3333> Hi all. Anyone know a hardcore way to stop a cd drive from trying to read a disk. I was writing a cd in k3b. It then crashed and I had to kill k3b. But the drive is still reading the disk and won't give it back.
[02:06] <Toma-> feugan3333: fuser
[02:06] <Toma-> 'man fuser'
[02:06] <Belutz> ubotu, tell Jason_in_space about resolution
[02:07] <moparfan90> im going to try nvu... which one do i download?
[02:07] <moparfan90> http://www.nvu.com/download.html
[02:07] <jonny> tux racer in synaptic?
[02:07] <Belutz> moparfan90, you can install it from the repos
[02:07] <Toma-> moparfan90: nvu is in the synaptic/apt repositories
[02:07] <oasiao> ok in my office documents isnt there  a way to add tabbed pages to one file like Writer so i can flip to the next page?
[02:07] <Toma-> jonny planetpenguinracer
[02:07] <kandoora_> which nero alternative do u guys use
[02:07] <philc> I have two desktops that sit next to each other on a wireless network. I'm also using synergy, kind of a network-software kvm switch. The latency of the wireless network is too high. Can I connect the to desktops directly ot each other via cross over cable or something, and also have them on the wireless network?
[02:07] <Toma-> or somthing like that
[02:07] <oasiao> or no
[02:07] <kandoora_> xcdtoast
[02:07] <sells> can anyone give me a good list of sources for breezy
[02:07] <kandoora_> cdrtoast
[02:07] <foampeace> nvu??
[02:07] <NoUse> !tell sells about repos
[02:07] <kandoora_> or gtoaster
[02:08] <CookedGryphon> when is the final openoffice2 goign to be included in the ubuntu repositories? does anybody know?
[02:08] <sells> NoUse, thanks
[02:08] <Toma-> kandoora_: gnomebaker
[02:08] <ekimus> sells: file:///etc/apt/sources.list :)
[02:08] <Belutz> kandoora_, gnomebaker
[02:08] <moparfan90> ok
[02:08] <moparfan90> thanks
[02:08] <jonny> toma-:it says 3d excelleration, where can I find this
[02:08] <moparfan90> i have to go bye every one
[02:08] <bimberi> CookedGryphon: dunno, but there is ...
[02:08] <bimberi> !ooo2
[02:08] <ubotu> Test packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html
[02:09] <foampeace> is nvu good?
[02:09] <Belutz> ubotu, tell sells about sources
[02:09] <Toma-> jonny: do you have an nvidia card?
[02:09] <oasiao> i think it is
[02:09] <jonny> toma-:no
[02:09] <kandoora_> Toma-, is that THE burning tool
[02:09] <misfit_toy> foampeace, it's "acceptable"
[02:09] <Toma-> kandoora_: its a damn nice one kandoora_...
[02:09] <kandoora_> Belutz, is that THE burning tool
[02:09] <Belutz> kandoora_, yup
[02:09] <CookedGryphon> bimberi thanks
[02:09] <Toma-> jonny: so its ati?
[02:09] <Toma-> !ati
[02:09] <ubotu> somebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:09] <NoUse> kandoora_ I think k3b is the best one
[02:10] <bimberi> CookedGryphon: yw :)
[02:10] <misfit_toy> K3B still beats all the others
[02:10] <Toma-> jonny: follow that first link ubotu just spammed
[02:10] <jonny> toma-: I have no graphics card
[02:10] <saniX> hi guys
[02:10] <Toma-> jonny: well you wont be running tux racer then
[02:10] <cratel1> ubuntu how can i download matpoltlib
[02:10] <feugan3333> Toma: Thanks but "sudo fuser /dev/cdrw" does not give any results.
[02:10] <oasiao> ubotu smoke crack
[02:10] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, oasiao
[02:10] <sells> ubotu: thanks
[02:10] <ubotu> graag gedaan, sells
[02:10] <jonny> well, its internal anyway
[02:10] <Toma-> feugan3333: did you 'man fuser'?
[02:10] <sells> ubotu: what
[02:10] <ubotu> What what, sells?
[02:10] <saniX> i need program open CHM like XCHM
[02:10] <bimberi> !ubotu
[02:10] <sells> ubotu: thanks again
[02:10] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:10] <ubotu> pas de quoi, sells
[02:11] <jonny> I had it running fine on a live CD, though
[02:11] <feugan3333> Toma: yeah
[02:11] <jonny> toma-: I had it running fine on a live CD, though
[02:11] <sells> ubotu: I just installed breezy on my laptop
[02:11] <ubotu> No idea, sells
[02:11] <Toma-> then you would know to use 'sudo fuser -k /dev/cdrw
[02:11] <Toma-> '
[02:11] <saniX> could you help me plz?
[02:11] <bimberi> sells: ubotu is a bot
[02:11] <cratel1> hello
[02:11] <Toma-> jonny: so you do have a 3d card
[02:11] <Belutz> sells, ubotu is a bot
[02:11] <cratel1> can any one help me
[02:11] <oasiao> ubotu lapdance
[02:11] <ubotu> oasiao: Are you smoking crack?
[02:11] <sells> bimberi: sorry everyone, I am a retard
[02:11] <oasiao> lmao
[02:12] <Toma-> or some sort of 3d chip on your motherboard?
[02:12] <NoUse> cratel1 have you asked a question?
[02:12] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, any luck dude?
[02:12] <cratel1> yes
[02:12] <robert__> hi
[02:12] <sells> bimberi: just did not know
[02:12] <bimberi> sells: no way, i got caught in similar fashion :)
[02:12] <jonny> Toma-: dunno, its built into the motherboard, I can play 3D computer games on windows fine
[02:12] <sells> bimberi: all good
[02:12] <Toma-> jonny: ok. so you dont know if its ati or nvidia?
[02:12] <Toma-> what motherboard is it?
[02:12] <sells> bimberi: been here before, but not since I first installed hoary
[02:12] <cratel1> can i dowload midiox ????
[02:13] <jonny> Toma-: no idea, dimension 2400 if that helps
[02:13] <CookedGryphon> WebLOCH: not really, the pattern seems to be that the error comes up when you have home dir on a seperate partition
[02:13] <bimberi> sells: ah
[02:13] <jonny> i know nothing aboout this computer
[02:13] <sells> bimberi: you like breezy?
[02:13] <foampeace> nvu better then dreamweaver?
[02:13] <cratel1> hello
[02:13] <jonny> about*
[02:13] <bimberi> sells: yes indeed
[02:13] <cratel1> how can i download midiox in linux
[02:13] <sells> bimberi: what changes do you notice most
[02:14] <Lajuj> is there anyone who could help me with my ipw2100 wireless in ubuntu 5.10, I am having major problems
[02:14] <oasiao> so ubuntu 6.0 is going to be a distro intended to last a while?0
[02:14] <oasiao> ?
[02:14] <foampeace> anyone get a segmentation fault with xmms...is there another way i can wake myself up with music?
[02:14] <sells> bimberi: I cant play dvd on my linux machines
[02:14] <bimberi> ubotu tell sells about dvd
[02:14] <sells> bimberi: cool
[02:14] <bimberi> sells: i'm still discovering breezy's wonders :)
[02:14] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, have you established if its anything important or just a file?
[02:15] <cratel1> can download midiox on linux
[02:15] <foampeace> why am i having trouble with kcron,gcrontab,cron
[02:15] <CookedGryphon> WebLOCH: maybe if you put .dmrc on... its a file that tells gdm which session to log into
[02:15] <Nomikos> anyone ever boot an eMac from the Live CD?
[02:15] <foampeace> whats the best cron to use?
[02:15] <NoUse> cratel1 there isn't a link version, so you can't
[02:15] <sells> bimberi: seems that is the same for most
[02:15] <bimberi> sells: :)
[02:16] <Toma-> ok jonny its an "Intel Extreme 845GV" gfx unit. trying to find out if its nvidia or ati now
[02:16] <Lajuj> does anyone here run breezy on their dell D600, I want to pick your brain about wireless cards
[02:16] <sells> bimberi: so I follow those instructions explicitly for dvd?
[02:16] <jonny> Toma-: it works fine, just no sound?
[02:16] <cratel1> what about matplotlib
[02:17] <bimberi> sells: they will help, also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats is worth reading too
[02:17] <Toma-> i see.
[02:17] <cratel1> can dowmoald matplotlib in linux
[02:17] <loufoque> (freechar plugin notice) I'm using UTF-8 charset(encoding) for my russian-cyrillic, so if you're using another, please type '~encoding' (encoding: cp, koi) that you're using, thus we can comunicate well, thanks !
[02:17] <sells> bimberi: cool
[02:17] <fonesic> hi
[02:17] <Toma-> jonny: turn your speakers up
[02:17] <jonny> they are, lol
[02:17] <Toma-> and the line levels
[02:17] <Toma-> pop open a terminal and run alsamixer
[02:18] <jonny> is the sound really quiet?
[02:18] <Toma-> set everything except mic to about 70
[02:18] <Toma-> sometimes
[02:18] <jonny> ok
[02:18] <cratel1> can downoald matplotlib in linux
[02:18] <sun_> what's link library ubuntu use
[02:18] <redondos> hello
[02:18] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, know anyone that develops gnome haha ?
[02:19] <cratel1> hello
[02:19] <Toma-> cratel1: yes
[02:19] <redondos> filenames with accented/spanish characters are viewed pretty nastily. why is this?
[02:19] <cratel1> anyone know how can i download matplotlib in linux
[02:19] <Belutz> cratel1, yes
[02:20] <Belutz> cratel1, http://sourceforge.net/projects/matplotlib
[02:20] <NoUse> cratel1 go to their site and download the source package
[02:20] <Toma-> !info python-matplotlib
[02:20] <Toma-> damn you
[02:20] <sun_> Belutz,what's link lib ubuntu use
[02:20] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, have a possible fix
[02:20] <cratel1> matplotlib
[02:20] <cratel1> 
[02:20] <cratel1>     Release Notes matplotlib-0.84 	2005-09-19 10:08
[02:20] <cratel1>     Download matplotlib-0.84.tar.gz	2743562 	1539	Platform-Independent	Source .gz
[02:20] <cratel1>     Download matplotlib-0.84.win32-py2.3.exe	5082694 	406	i386	.exe (32-bit Windows)
[02:20] <cratel1>     Download matplotlib-0.84.win32-py2.4.exe	5086724 	1344	i386	.exe (32-bit Windows)
[02:20] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, you there dude?
[02:20] <cratel1>     Download matplotlib-0.84.zip	3390353 	288	Platform-Independent	Source .zip
[02:20] <Belutz> sun_, i don't know, i'm not that advanced :)
[02:21] <cratel1> 
[02:21] <cratel1> wihci file shoul use
[02:21] <Belutz> cratel1, don't paste in here!
[02:21] <Toma-> i love pastebin
[02:21] <NoUse> cratel1 the top one that isn't marked "win32"
[02:21] <Toma-> get matplotlib-0.84.tar.gz
[02:21] <cratel1> o.k thanks
[02:22] <FujiHOST> is there sun java package in synaptic?
[02:22] <jonny> Toma-:still no sound
[02:22] <fanopnaic> FujiHOST: no 1.5
[02:22] <NoUse> !tell FujiHOST about java
[02:22] <Toma-> jonny: run "killall esd" then try it
[02:22] <jonny> ok
[02:23] <Nihil85> hallo
[02:23] <oasiao> i got Java in snaptic , is that the blackdown version?
[02:23] <Nihil85> i need to find a torrent file to download quake 2. can anyone help me?
[02:23] <bimberi> oasiao: yes
[02:23] <mahangu_> is there a good speech recog engine for ubuntu?
[02:23] <mahangu_> oasiao, breezy? then yes
[02:23] <crimsun> Nihil85: that's largely offtopic here.
[02:23] <fanopnaic> oh, there even are .debs for 1.5... nice
[02:23] <mahangu_> Nihil85, we dont talk about pirating software in here
[02:23] <Toma-> Nihil85: this aint no warez chan.
[02:23] <jonny> Toma-:still no sound
[02:23] <oasiao> yes mahangu_
[02:23] <Nihil85> ok, excuse me
[02:24] <mahangu_> oasiao, chances are yes - i just installed from debs yesterday
[02:24] <Toma-> jonny: can you run "ppracer" in a term and see if it tells you whats wrong?
[02:24] <FujiHOST> !tell FujiHOST about java
[02:24] <FujiHOST> ?
[02:24] <jonny> ok...hold on
[02:24] <NoUse> FujiHOST ubotu sent you links
[02:25] <jonny> Toma-: still none
[02:25] <thrice`> FujiHOST, use /msg
[02:25] <oasiao> mahangu_ i dont know if this will help you but here is this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpeechRecognition
[02:25] <Toma-> jonny: no output either?
[02:25] <jonny> Nihil85, u still there
[02:26] <jonny> Toma-: what do you mean?
[02:26] <WebLOCH> Does ubuntu actually support PCI and PCI-E graphics cards?
[02:26] <elshtanko> mine is
[02:26] <Nihil85> jonny, i entered this channel 5 minutes ago
[02:26] <elshtanko> exit
[02:26] <jonny> ok...hold on for that torrent
[02:26] <Toma-> when you run it in a terminal, it didnt say "DSP busy: cant run sound" etc etc?
[02:26] <Toma-> jonny: dont spam warez, youll be banned
[02:27] <mahangu_> oasiao, heh, thanks mate
[02:27] <Nihil85> jonny, don't worry: I understood that this isn't a channel to talk about these things... it don't need to be ironic
[02:27] <hav0k> hey, does anyone know how i can chage my external hd so that i am the "owner"
[02:27] <jonny> do u have an AIM account?
[02:27] <Toma-> Nihil85: google can find just about anything.
[02:27] <mahangu_> Nihil85, jonny, it would be best to take that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:28] <CookedGryphon> WebLOCH: sry i'm here now and no i dont kno anyone that develops for gnome, that woudl b handy
[02:28] <FujiHOST> ok
[02:28] <bimberi> not even appropriate there imo
[02:28] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20050926.194616.92d8264b.en.html
[02:28] <Toma-> but considering id went to all the hassle of making a dedicated linux client for all their recent games, dont you think they deserve a little bit of credit?
[02:28] <jonny> Toma-: open /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory
[02:28] <theine> Is it just me or is Firefox under Breezy a bit sluggish?
[02:28] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, tried that yet ?
[02:28] <Toma-> jonny: well there you go.
[02:28] <WebLOCH> theine, Firefox is always sluggish now, under any os, try epiphany-browser
[02:29] <Nihil85> jonny, pvt
[02:29] <CookedGryphon> WebLOCH: not tried that yet, will do though
[02:29] <jonny> Toma-: what do I do about that?
[02:29] <oasiao> anyone tried flock?
[02:29] <jonny> Nihil85: pvt?
[02:29] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, im trying it too
[02:29] <Toma-> jonny: google it
[02:29] <jonny> ok
[02:29] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, speak to yo in a minute haha
[02:30] <acar> My network tab says 'wireless disabled'.  Is this a security setting, or is it because it can't find a valid wireless connection?
[02:30] <Lajuj> Ubuntu 5.10 is not detecting my ipw2100 wireless, does anyone have an idea what to do?
[02:31] <Nihil85> jonny, yesk. I'm asking you to talk in private. PVT
[02:31] <oasiao> Flock is another Browser that is going to be released the developers version is released
[02:31] <acar> disregard my previous question.
[02:32] <mahangu_> flock sucks
[02:32] <sun_> how to list in mutil-screen when one sreen can't list all
[02:32] <mahangu_> but that's offtopic, heh
[02:33] <oasiao> havent tried it yet
[02:33] <mahangu_> acar you gotta config it
[02:33] <mahangu_> oasiao, you want the linux bin?
[02:33] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, any luck ?
[02:33] <oasiao> no thanks mahangu_ got it
[02:33] <oasiao> :D
[02:34] <mahangu_> great
[02:34] <joetheodd> Hey, how do I open my trash can in Gnome?
[02:34] <nekostar> meh
[02:34] <nekostar> who wants to use mplayer anyway
[02:34] <WebLOCH> Can someone tell me what their "ls -ld /home" output i s?
[02:35] <sun_> noone reply me
[02:35] <Lajuj> how can I see if Ubuntu is recognizing my wireless card?
[02:35] <foampeace> anyone use the flashget firefox extension?
[02:35] <PowerCat> Anyone ever installed a lucent winmodem on ubuntu?
[02:36] <sells> bimberi: can you help me out setting my drive with hdparm
[02:36] <PowerCat> what is the coolest command to type in a prompt?
[02:37] <oasiao> su
[02:37] <PowerCat> su isn't that cool, I'm sure you can find better
[02:37] <Belutz> PowerCat, sudo apt-get install moo
[02:37] <Marlowe2> rm -rf * of course
[02:37] <oasiao> lol
[02:37] <PowerCat> rm -rf * is pretty cool but far from the best
[02:37] <CookedGryphon> PowerCat: install the cowsay package (apt-get install cowsay) then cowsay Hello
[02:38] <Belutz> PowerCat, sorry, sudo apt-get moo
[02:38] <Marlowe2> dd rox though :)
[02:38] <bimberi> sells: i don't know much about it sorry, others might, or there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA (guessing that it's dma you're after)
[02:38] <meheren_> hi im cinda new at linux im trying to download and install thunderbird can any1 walk me through it
[02:38] <Marlowe2> cat /dev/random > /dev/hda     ????
[02:38] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, I think i have the solution well, a solution
[02:38] <sells> bimberi: cool, thanks
[02:38] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=437911#post437911
[02:39] <meheren_> i got the package but i don't no what to do now
[02:39] <NoUse> meheren_ go to synaptic via System -> Administration and search for it
[02:39] <nimak> hello
[02:39] <nimak> is it possible to do a hard disk install from the livecd?
[02:39] <PowerCat> ( tapi ) rm -rf /mnt/windows/*
[02:39] <PowerCat> tapi wins
[02:39] <nekostar> WebLOCH, drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 128 2005-10-27 01:57 /home
[02:39] <theine> meheren_, what kind of package? A .deb package?
[02:40] <meheren__> .sh
[02:40] <CookedGryphon> WebLOCH: i have my own solution, it works
[02:40] <theine> meheren_, what's that script's name?
[02:40] <NoUse> meheren_ you want to download it via synaptic, it will be easier
[02:40] <CookedGryphon> you don't set the permissions of .dmrc itself
[02:40] <bimberi> meheren_: no use Synaptic to find and install it - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[02:40] <Milk_> is there a good tool for converting AVI to mpeg?
[02:40] <CookedGryphon> WebLOCH: you set the permissions of your home directory to 750
[02:40] <theine> meheren_, yeah, always use synaptic if possible
[02:40] <meheren__> ok
[02:40] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, recursively or just for the home dir ?
[02:40] <theine> meheren_, what is it that yo uwant to install
[02:41] <CookedGryphon> jsut the home dir
[02:41] <WebLOCH> CookedGryphon, because I tried it after pasting that link to you and it didnt work
[02:41] <bimberi> meheren_: i think there's a strong consensus for using synaptic :P
[02:41] <FujiHOST> Hey, Where is the incoming folder for aMule Located?
[02:41] <CookedGryphon> oh, well it worked for me
[02:41] <WebLOCH> nekostar, does that eqaute to 750 ?
[02:41] <CookedGryphon> once anyway
[02:41] <FujiHOST> or where is aMule installed?
[02:41] <WebLOCH> nekostar, could you also check your /home/usrblah modes ?
[02:42] <Lajuj> how can I see if Ubuntu is recognizing my wireless card?
[02:42] <nickrud> FujiHOST, in .aMule/Incoming
[02:43] <FujiHOST> thanks is that in root dir
[02:43] <meheren__> where should i get synaptic
[02:43] <squidbullets> use the ultraviolet spectrum
[02:43] <aphesz> Lajuj: lspci | grep Network
[02:43] <ecobuntu> where are the folder icons located in gnome?
[02:43] <nimak> can anyone help me, i need to install ubuntu to my hard drive, but all i have is a livecd
[02:43] <nickrud> FujiHOST, no, dot files (files that begin with a dot) are files/directories located in your home directory
[02:43] <bimberi> meheren_: it should be installed System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[02:43] <nekostar> first i dont know WebLOCH and second how same thing?
[02:43] <aphesz> nimak: download the installer .iso files :D
[02:43] <FujiHOST> thanks
[02:44] <squidbullets> nimak: I am still waiting for them to ship mine after two weeks
[02:44] <nimak> my cd burner is dead :-P
[02:44] <Lajuj> aphesz, when I enter this I get no output, nada
[02:44] <nickrud> FujiHOST, do ls -a, and be amazed :)
[02:44] <ecobuntu> do you guys know if you can use gdesklet with xfce?
[02:44] <nekostar> drwxr-xr-x  44 userhblah userblah 2448 2005-11-01 17:31 /home/userblah/
[02:44] <Lajuj> aphesz, does this mean it cannot see my card?
[02:44] <meheren__> ok i found it thx
[02:44] <WebLOCH> ty nekostar
[02:44] <nekostar> np
[02:45] <aphesz> Lajuj: what model is your wireless card?
[02:45] <Lajuj> aphesz, ipw2100
[02:45] <Lajuj> aphesz, I am running ubuntu 5.10
[02:45] <FujiHOST> when i type that it says no such file or directory
[02:45] <WebLOCH> nekostar, can i come back and bug you if this doenst work?
[02:46] <nickrud> FujiHOST, try ls ~/.aMule
[02:46] <nekostar> feel free
[02:47] <nekostar> eh
[02:47] <aphesz> Lajuj: Intel Wireless Pro? it should detect by it's own
[02:47] <FujiHOST> from a command can i open a folder?
[02:47] <Lajuj> aphesz, yeah, this is what I thought, but I don't see it in Networking
[02:47] <Lajuj> aphesz, just my eth0
[02:47] <nickrud> in a window on the desktop, you mean?
[02:47] <aphesz> ah
[02:47] <squidbullets> nalioth: my system took a brownout and recovered a file, what would have happened to that file if I logged in as another user after restoring power?
[02:47] <avatarez> hello
[02:48] <aphesz> could you lspci and paste the output in the pastebin for me?
[02:48] <avatarez> i have some questions about the synaptic.
[02:48] <WebLOCH> nekostar, ty thats one problem sorted
[02:48] <Lajuj> aphesz, syre
[02:48] <aphesz> alrite
[02:48] <avatarez> anyone can help me with some synaptic questions, please ?
[02:48] <nekostar> heh np WebLOCH
[02:49] <nalioth> squidbullets: it will wait for you, whenever you decide to get it
[02:49] <WebLOCH> I have a problem with my graphics card, after installing nvidia-glx as suggested in the UserDocumentation nothing that uses the glx works, like glxgears and glxinfo give me "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:49] <WebLOCH> "
[02:49] <Lajuj> aphesz, where is the paste bin?
[02:49] <meheren__> can any1 tell me how to move the four little squares at bottom of my screen
[02:49] <aphesz> Lajuj: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:49] <lala88> hay
[02:49] <lala88> im bored
[02:49] <meheren__> (i want to move them to the right and make 8 of them right now there is 4
[02:49] <avatarez> right button -> uncheck "lock to panel"
[02:50] <avatarez> meheren__
[02:50] <farruinn> meheren__: you are talking about the workspace icons?
[02:50] <meheren__> yess
[02:50] <Lajuj> aphesz, okay, i Just did -- thank you so much for the help
[02:50] <Waffles> hi
[02:50] <meheren__> i moved them fine
[02:50] <farruinn> meheren__: right-click>properties and you can change the number of workspaces
[02:50] <squidbullets> nalioth: could I have deleted it though, as the other login?
[02:50] <lala88> hay
[02:50] <meheren__> how u get 8?
[02:50] <avatarez> anyone can help me with some synaptic questions, please ?
[02:50] <aphesz> Lajuj: you should give me the url so that i can view it. :D
[02:50] <Waffles> can someone help me with sound
[02:50] <nalioth> squidbullets: no, i dont think so
[02:50] <aphesz> Lajuj: nvrmind.. found it. hold on
[02:51] <lala88> wat is dis thing
[02:51] <lala88> do ppl help wit stuff
[02:51] <lala88> ??
[02:51] <farruinn> meheren__: right-click the boxes and select Preferences
[02:51] <Lajuj> aphesz, ok
[02:51] <lala88> okayy neways
[02:51] <farruinn> lala88: yes, this is a support chat room of sorts
[02:51] <lala88> really?
[02:51] <aphesz> Lajuj: your wireless card is actually a Broadcom card
[02:51] <lala88> lol im lost
[02:51] <Lajuj> aphesz, really?
[02:51] <lala88> i better leav
[02:52] <farruinn> lala88: yes, for idle chatting you can join #ubuntuforms
[02:52] <aphesz> Lajuj: look at the last line.. you should do "lspci | grep Network"
[02:52] <watnou> o ya
[02:52] <aphesz> capital N
[02:52] <nickrud> !ask
[02:52] <squidbullets> !ask
[02:52] <lala88> okay
[02:52] <Lajuj> aphesz, ahh
[02:52] <nickrud> darn bot
[02:52] <Lajuj> aphesz, so how should I go about getting ubuntu to see my card?
[02:53] <meheren_> does any1 no how to get 8 workspace thingys
[02:53] <Waffles> lol
[02:53] <Waffles> can anyone help me with sound?
[02:53] <watnou> oss
[02:54] <aphesz> Lajuj: hold on lemme check the forums if i could find a similar thread like your problem :D
[02:54] <farruinn> meheren_: did you get the preferences window open like I suggested?
[02:54] <nickrud> meheren_, again :) right click the workspace thingy, preferences, and change number of workspaces
[02:54] <meheren_> ah i c
[02:54] <farruinn> hehe :)
[02:54] <meheren_> linux is 2 simple
[02:54] <meheren_> lol
[02:54] <pupil> is there a gui for disconnecting my usb device,. ?
[02:54] <Waffles> dosnt work
[02:54] <meheren_> im used to windows where every thing is complicated
[02:54] <aphesz> Lajuj: go to http://www.antoniocheca.com/wp/content-text/ubuntu-inspiron6000.html. scroll down to the Wireless part :)
[02:55] <pupil> Is there a gui for disconnecting my usb devaice?
[02:55] <squidbullets> nalioth: people keep telling me check my tab, to what are they reefering to?
[02:55] <farruinn> meheren_: a lot of options can be accessed through right-clicking in linux, so if in doubt, right-click! :)
[02:55] <meheren_> ok
[02:55] <Lajuj> aphesz, you are too nice.  Thank you so much for your help.  Someday when I am confortable with linux I will be as helpful as you
[02:56] <pupil> Cand someone please tell me if there is a gui for disconnecting my USB device?
[02:56] <aphesz> Lajuj: dont mention it.. i'm just giving away what i already gained before ;)
[02:56] <nalioth> squidbullets: are they private messaging you? you may have indicators if they are
[02:56] <WebLOCH> I have a problem with my graphics card, after installing nvidia-glx as suggested in the UserDocumentation nothing that uses the glx works, like glxgears and glxinfo give me "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:56] <fdelacruz> guys is ubuntu supported nis client?
[02:56] <Lajuj> aphesz, when I get my wireless running I will have to run to the local coffee shop and thank you from there as well, entirely mobile
[02:56] <pupil> nalioth, please tell me if there is a gui for disconnecting my USB device?
[02:57] <farruinn> pupil: right-clicking>unmount isn't working?
[02:57] <pupil> rightclicking on WHAT?
[02:57] <farruinn> pupil: is there an icon on your desktop for the device?
[02:57] <langtaosha> hi all
[02:57] <langtaosha> hi, all
[02:57] <pupil> ohh
[02:58] <DrMitch> so, what package do i use to play divx movies?
[02:58] <DrMitch> mplayer isn't in the repo
[02:58] <langtaosha> mplayer
[02:59] <DrMitch> and i USED to heart mplayer until no 64 bit distros work with it
[02:59] <langtaosha> mplayer is good
[02:59] <DrMitch> do i have to compile from source?
[02:59] <squidbullets> nalioth: they CPCT'd me or somethin like dat.
[02:59] <pupil> farruinn, there is an icon,. I right clicked and it pressed umount,. but it still didnt turn of the light on the usb device
[02:59] <nalioth> squidbullets: what irc client do you use?
[03:00] <farruinn> pupil: hmm, see if it's listed in /etc/mtab
[03:00] <squidbullets> !ask irc
[03:00] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, squidbullets
[03:00] <squidbullets> man irc
[03:00] <pupil> I don't see it there
[03:00] <pupil> farruinn, I don't see it there
[03:00] <avatarez> hey, how do I change the packeges to look up the universe ?
[03:00] <Waffles> >.<
[03:00] <aphesz> Lajuj: hahaa.. that's nice :D
[03:00] <Waffles> can someone help me with sound?
[03:01] <apokryphos> !tell avatarez about repositories
[03:01] <meheren_> with what about sound?
[03:01] <meheren_> how to adjust it?
[03:01] <Waffles> no
[03:01] <Waffles> because i can only hear GUI sounds
[03:01] <Waffles> and when i use audio playback
[03:01] <farruinn> pupil: then I would say it's safe to disconnect the device
[03:01] <avatarez> apokryphos: thanks
[03:01] <meheren_> ?
[03:01] <Waffles> it doesnt work
[03:01] <meheren_> no idea im new to ubuntu
[03:02] <meheren_> still learing
[03:02] <Waffles> lol
[03:02] <rohal> Waffles: u must be using alsa...
[03:02] <dontknowotIRCmea> nalioth: ubotu just told me it has no clue, and oddly enough, neither do I
[03:02] <Waffles> yea
[03:02] <rohal> try some soft to control ur alsa mixer...
[03:03] <Waffles> how?
[03:03] <rohal> Waffles: its kmix in kde dont remember for gnome...
[03:03] <meheren_> i installed thunderbird now how do i use it
[03:03] <farruinn> Waffles: which program are you not getting sound from? it could be that it's not set to put its output through esd
[03:03] <nalioth> dunderhead: keep changing your nick and nobody will have a clue
[03:03] <dunderhead> nalioth: did pupil get that usb thing unmounted?
[03:03] <rohal> Waffles: see in the application menu for audio...
[03:03] <Waffles> everything other than the GUI
[03:03] <farruinn> meheren_: the thunderbird icon is in Applications>Internet
[03:03] <Nihil85> i wanted to know how to let Ubuntu read my ntfs windows HD. i need to copy some files from this old hd to the new one
[03:03] <meheren_> ok thx
[03:04] <NoUse> !windowsdrives
[03:04] <ubotu> [windowsdrives]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:04] <Waffles> actually
[03:04] <Nihil85> ubotu, thanks!
[03:04] <ubotu> bitte, Nihil85
[03:04] <Waffles> cds work
[03:04] <pupil> dunderhead, I got it umounted,,. but light does not go off,. usually in windowds,. the light goes off,. not so for linux?
[03:04] <Nihil85> bitte?
[03:04] <Waffles> im trying to play video
[03:04] <Waffles> s
[03:05] <pupil> dunderhead, I have lost data before,. tis why I am so cautious right now,.  have not connected usb device with linux befofre though
[03:05] <Waffles> trying to play videos with vlc
[03:06] <dunderhead> pupil: I noticed that with some alarm myself, but there are people that just yank the thing out in windowsXP and it doesn't seem to bother theirs
[03:07] <Hentai^XP> cause on windows is set with fat32 better soulution than ntfs so you can just yank out the flash drove
[03:07] <dunderhead> I do still unmount it before removing the USB drive
[03:07] <Xeromem> does anyone know a GOOD msn client, but not gaim or amsn
[03:08] <bob2> bitlbee
[03:08] <bob2> bear in mind "GOOD" is subjective
[03:08] <mc|amb> Xeromen: kopete
[03:08] <bob2> and that your definition seems kinda obscure, since lots of people like gaim
[03:08] <dunderhead> GAh. I hate it when they leave like That.
[03:08] <mooyim> hello
[03:08] <dunderhead> Pupil: see ya.
[03:08] <mooyim> my name is wattana
[03:09] <BeGu> All I want to do is to transfer some files to my homepage, what ftp program would you recommend? Something light and easy to use...
[03:09] <Xeromem> kopete is for kde and i don't like kde :)
[03:10] <bob2> BeGu: gnome's file manager
[03:10] <Lajuj> aphesz, are you still there, I have another quick question
[03:10] <aphesz> yea here
[03:10] <dunderhead> DOES ANYBODY know what rawr would mean in a room?
[03:11] <Lajuj> aphesz, I am trying to lode a module onto the kernal, and I get an error saying the operation is not permitted
[03:11] <Lajuj> aphesz, do I not have access to the kernel?
[03:11] <dunderhead> wattana: howdy.
[03:11] <aphesz> did you try loading it with root access?
[03:11] <Lajuj> aphesz, is that the same as sudo?
[03:11] <dunderhead> dang did it again.
[03:11] <aphesz> Lajuj: yea
[03:12] <Lajuj> aphesz, yeah,  the operation is still not permitted
[03:12] <Inchabod> Has anyone ever broadcasted in XMMS to a shoutcast server that could help me?
[03:12] <Lajuj> aphesz, the command is modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:12] <aphesz> weird
[03:13] <Lajuj> aphesz, yeah
[03:13] <CookedGryphon> help!
[03:13] <CookedGryphon> my gnome won't log in at all now
[03:13] <Xeromem> does anyone know o good ftp client for gnome, not too complicated
[03:13] <informant> Xeromem: gftp
[03:13] <rohal> Xeromem: gftp
[03:13] <CookedGryphon> i ahve a useable system jstu about by runing metacity and gnome-panel from the xterm failsafe
[03:13] <aphesz> Lajuj: paste it to the pastebin and i'll take a look at it
[03:13] <bimberi> Xeromem: nautilus! (Places -> Connect to Server)
[03:13] <Xeromem> i didn't like gftp :s
[03:13] <bob2> Xeromem: the gnome file manager
[03:14] <sambagirl> why not just type from prompt ftp ?
[03:14] <teimu> hi ubuntu. a friend of mine always used a somewhat confusing (to me) command whenever he wanted to do something as root: "sudo su". Can someone explain the logic of this to me? They both seem like the same thing to me
[03:14] <Xeromem> i want something like leapftp on windows
[03:14] <dooglus> teimu: your friend doesn't know what he's doing :)
[03:14] <informant> sambagirl: good ol' `ftp -p` ;-)
[03:14] <sambagirl> ;)
[03:14] <sambagirl> it works too :)
[03:14] <bob2> teimu: it's silly
[03:14] <aphesz> teimu: sudo su - means he's loggin in as root for the entire session
[03:14] <sambagirl> you put -p after it?
[03:14] <bob2> teimu: if you want a root shell, 'sudo -s'
[03:15] <informant> sambagirl: for passive mode transfers
[03:15] <dunderhead> so nalioth, did this highlight in your window?
[03:15] <sambagirl> ok whatever that means :)
[03:15] <dooglus> aphesz: he's logging in as root to run a command which logs him in as root.  there's no need to do it twice like that
[03:15] <dunderhead> or is it just another sentence?
[03:15] <BeGu> bob2, how can I find that gnome's file manager from synaptic?
[03:15] <informant> sambagirl: (to agree with any NATs/firewalls in between that may not like it)
[03:15] <sambagirl> hey is there virus scanner for unix?
[03:15] <sambagirl> ahh ok
[03:15] <teimu> yeap. that'll do it bob. now it makes sense. thanks
[03:15] <informant> sambagirl: clam-av
[03:15] <Lajuj> aphesz, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3970
[03:15] <kcskyl> hello, i'm really new with ubuntu, and was wondering if anyone can help me set it up?
[03:15] <sambagirl> let me try it.
[03:15] <sambagirl> clam-av
[03:15] <sambagirl> ?
[03:15] <Xeromem> why do you need a virusscanner
[03:15] <informant> sambagirl: clam antivirus
[03:15] <bob2> BeGu: you already have it installed
[03:15] <aphesz> dooglus: ubuntu doesnt allow su command by default
[03:15] <sambagirl> ahh for viruses?
[03:16] <informant> sambagirl: try apt-get-ing clamav
[03:16] <bob2> BeGu: location -> network -> ftp://user@whatever/
[03:16] <sambagirl> i just wondering.. i checking my pc now to check.
[03:16] <mustard5> Xeromem, so you don't infect windows machines ;)
[03:16] <dooglus> sambagirl: it's "clamav", not "clam-av"
[03:16] <sambagirl> ok 1 second.
[03:16] <informant> sambagirl: then, `freshclam` will update the database, and you can manually scan with `clamscan` I believe..
[03:16] <dooglus> aphesz: it allows you to "sudo -i" or "sudo -s"
[03:16] <BeGu> bob2, ok, thanks a lot
[03:16] <aphesz> sudo su - was one way of gaining root access via a remote terminal on FreeBSD. maybe he's used to it :)
[03:16] <sambagirl> ok
[03:16] <aphesz> either way dooglus, it work.. no biggie ;)
[03:16] <DrMitch> what package does ubuntu use to watch divx?
[03:16] <bob2> BeGu: np
[03:16] <dunderhead> mmmm clammmmm
[03:17] <Marlowe> sudo bash would do just as nicely
[03:17] <bob2> DrMitch: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:17] <kcskyl> i haven't been able to connect to the web using ubuntu, can anyone help me with that?
[03:17] <sambagirl> i just know of viruses on amiga mac and windows
[03:17] <nalioth> dunderhead: it did
[03:17] <Marlowe> kcskyl u on DSL or dialup?
[03:17] <kcskyl> i'm on DSL
[03:17] <kcskyl> thanks in advance ;)
[03:17] <Marlowe> pppoeconf is your friend then :)
[03:17] <informant> sambagirl: one of clamav's advantages is that it can be plugged to scan for known viruses on samba shares, or the mailserver..
[03:18] <kcskyl> do i type that in terminal?
[03:18] <sambagirl> if you forget root pw can you fix it?
[03:18] <sambagirl> ahh
[03:18] <sambagirl> ok
[03:18] <informant> sambagirl: (not necessarily Unix-specific viruses)
[03:18] <Marlowe> just run pppoeconf 1st, then you can connect with 'pon dsl-provider'
[03:18] <dooglus> kcskyl: is it just the web you're having problems with?  or the net in general?
[03:18] <kcskyl> it's connecting to the web in general
[03:18] <aphesz> Lajuj: did you install ndiswrapper via apt-get or from another source?
[03:18] <Marlowe> sambagirl: reboot in main mode - then as root you can change pw
[03:18] <Marlowe> *maint*
[03:19] <kcskyl> it says "sorry, no working ethernet card could be found"
[03:19] <Lajuj> aphesz, I downloaded it from synaptic
[03:19] <sambagirl>  apt-get-ing clamav
[03:19] <sambagirl> is correct command?
[03:19] <dooglus> sambagirl: you can change the root password without rebooting by running "sudo passwd"
[03:19] <dunderhead> cool.  so I will just put nalioth here and it will highlight the sentence if understanding is occuring and get on with actually asking a kwestion.
[03:19] <Marlowe> kcskyl you behind a proxy server?
[03:19] <sambagirl> ahh ok
[03:19] <sambagirl> from where?
[03:19] <kcskyl> ...i have no idea...
[03:19] <sambagirl> from root?
[03:19] <dooglus> "sudo apt-get clamav" is correct command
[03:19] <kcskyl> is there a way to find that out?
[03:19] <sambagirl> bsh
[03:19] <aphesz> Lajuj: did you install the kernel source yet?
[03:19] <dooglus> sambagirl: from a terminal
[03:19] <taucher> luke
[03:19] <ngutwirth> yo guys im trying to figure out how to install java on ubuntu i tried to follow directions on ubuntuguide but when i get to the step where i gotta enter "su" in the terminal and the root pass it doesnt work
[03:19] <taucher> kule
[03:19] <Marlowe> sambagirl you boot maint from grub
[03:20] <taucher> luki: wo bist den
[03:20] <rsosborn> Linux noob here
[03:20] <luki> was
[03:20] <nalioth> dunderhead: when you type anyones nick, it highlights in their client
[03:20] <ngutwirth> can anyone help lol
[03:20] <bob2> sambagirl: no
[03:20] <Lajuj> aphesz, perhaps I didn't?
[03:20] <rsosborn> hey all I install openoffice 2.0
[03:20] <taucher> ich liebe dih
[03:20] <mustard5> sudo apt-get install clamav , dooglus you missed the install part :)
[03:20] <bob2> sambagirl: sudo apt-get install whateever
[03:20] <sambagirl> su is super user and do is do, no?
[03:20] <taucher> luki: i love you
[03:20] <luki> i di a
[03:20] <rsosborn> everything seemed fine but I can't open it
[03:20] <rohal> sambagirl: u can just chroot to ur linux partition using some live cd or some other distro.....ull be root in chrooted environment...
[03:20] <informant> ngutwirth: just use `sudo` and your password
[03:20] <rsosborn> the icons are there and everything
[03:20] <dunderhead> you katch the k in kwestion Nalioth?  I am asking about/kubuntu
[03:20] <sambagirl> ok
[03:20] <meheren_> does any1 no where to get the firefox icons?
[03:20] <rsosborn> not sure what went wrong
[03:20] <nalioth> taucher: duetsch in #ubuntu-de, bitte
[03:20] <Lajuj> aphesz, I just ran synaptic, downloaded/installed what it gave me
[03:20] <cafuego> Hast du villeicht Ubuntu fragen?
[03:20] <ngutwirth> oh ok thanks
[03:20] <taucher> luki: dnake ich dich auch
[03:20] <aphesz> Lajuj: install your linux kernel source, then reinstall ndiswrapper and see how it goes
[03:20] <sambagirl> ahh ok
[03:20] <taucher> sorry
[03:20] <taucher> just trying
[03:20] <dooglus> mustard5: oh yes :)
[03:20] <rsosborn> but when I click the ICOn for lke writer 2.0 or whatever it doesn't open
[03:20] <Marlowe> kcskyl your ISP should let you know, but usually it's not required - try this trick "telnet www.yahoo.com 80" then type "GET /" see what happens
[03:21] <johnw> where does ar reside in ubuntu?
[03:21] <Waffles> hi
[03:21] <Waffles> i recently installed kxdocker
[03:21] <taucher> byby
[03:21] <dunderhead> you could have said you dunderhead...
[03:21] <cafuego> kcskyl: Note you need to hit return TWICE after that :-)
[03:21] <Lajuj> aphesz, wait, I don't understand what you mean by install my kernel source, isn't that already installed?
[03:21] <nalioth> dunderhead: i missed your kubuntu question
[03:21] <sambagirl> is slip connection still used?
[03:21] <kcskyl> hey marlowe, is there anything else that i could try?
[03:21] <Lajuj> aphesz, I am running the operating system
[03:21] <aphesz> Lajuj: source isnt install by default :D
[03:21] <nickrud> johnw, try which ar
[03:21] <Waffles> how can i run kxdocker?
[03:21] <aphesz> it's the source that you want.. not the kernel
[03:21] <aphesz> ;)
[03:22] <Marlowe> kcskyl try the telnet trick, see what happens
[03:22] <PorcupineTreeDud> Hi
[03:22] <rsosborn> do I have to uninstall office 1 before 2.0 will work ?
[03:22] <dooglus> rsosborn: no
[03:22] <Lajuj> aphesz, okay, I see.  do I get the source from synaptic?
[03:22] <aphesz> Lajuj: from synaptic, search for linux-source
[03:22] <kcskyl> okay~
[03:22] <rsosborn> hmmm
[03:22] <sambagirl> brb
[03:22] <ngutwirth> i tried using sudo as pass for it says authentication failure
[03:22] <ngutwirth> ??
[03:22] <rsosborn> I can't figure out why 2.0 won't open
[03:22] <kcskyl> is the command for that simply "telnet"?
[03:22] <rsosborn> I dpkg everything
[03:22] <johnw> nickrud, is which a command to run?
[03:22] <aphesz> Lajuj: then reinstall ndiswrapper and modprobe it
[03:22] <dooglus> what's the best way to rebuild the kernel?  I need to apply a patch.
[03:22] <rsosborn> and I thought all was well icons are there in and everythign
[03:22] <rsosborn> hmmm
[03:23] <Marlowe> kcskyl "telnet www.yahoo.com 80" then "GET \" and hit CR a couple of times
[03:23] <Marlowe> it's a  poor man's web browser
[03:23] <nickrud> johnw, yes, it finds the location of an executable program in your path. type which <whatever> in a terminal
[03:23] <mustard5> ngutwirth, user password?
[03:23] <dunderhead> I got like, this disc y' know? and it is all ready to be set up and stuff, but like the PERSON that gave it to me said there was something i needed to do before installing it and stuff.
[03:23] <Lajuj> aphesz, okay, I will do
[03:23] <meheren_> im kinda new to ubuntu can someone tell me how to get my windows back once minimized
[03:23] <ngutwirth> how do i talk privately
[03:23] <PorcupineTree> really
[03:23] <PorcupineTree> you can telnet to yahoo?
[03:23] <Waffles> can someone help me with loading kxdocker?
[03:23] <PorcupineTree> cool
[03:23] <aphesz> Lajuj: :D
[03:23] <Marlowe> PorcupineTree - you can telnet to yahoo on port 80, yes :D
[03:24] <nickrud> meheren_, either click them in the task list on the lower panel, or <alt><tab>
[03:24] <johnw> apparently i don't have ar then
[03:24] <johnw> how do i get it?
[03:24] <Marlowe> but you only get http
[03:24] <PorcupineTree> Marlowe, Interesting
[03:24] <meheren_> what lower panel
[03:24] <mustard5> ngutwirth join #kunbuntu-offtopic its quieter ;)
[03:24] <Marlowe> ar should be in dev tools
[03:24] <ngutwirth> ok
[03:24] <meheren_> can u tell me how to get this task list thing
[03:24] <dooglus> meheren_: did you delete the lower panel?
[03:24] <ngutwirth> im there
[03:25] <dunderhead> waht to I do withthis kubuntu nalioth?
[03:25] <omar> this is a bit off topic, but i would like to ask a question?
[03:25] <meheren_> ahh yeh
[03:25] <nalioth> dunderhead: anything you like
[03:25] <mustard5> ngutwirthe #kubuntu-offtopic  check again..your not in my channel
[03:25] <Marlowe> omar - don't ask to ask - just leap in
[03:25] <meheren_> i only have 1 panel i would like to put every thing on it
[03:25] <PorcupineTree> what will the next be after breezy?
[03:25] <dunderhead> what?
[03:25] <WebLOCH> hey guys, does a Pentium D 830 3.2ghz count as a 686 processor?
[03:25] <bob2> PorcupineTree: dapper.
[03:25] <omar> I am having trouble with my TS client, is used to work on hoary
[03:25] <johnw> marlowe, it is not there
[03:25] <bob2> WebLOCH: yes
[03:25] <johnw> marlowe, can i get it?
[03:26] <Hentai^XP> WebLOCH yes
[03:26] <PorcupineTree> can you get dapper prerelase yet?
[03:26] <meheren_> im used to (windows)
[03:26] <WebLOCH> Okay thanks guys
[03:26] <bob2> PorcupineTree: please don't try
[03:26] <WebLOCH> I seem to be having a lot of trouble getting graphics working
[03:26] <QMario> Hello Seveas and nalioth!!! :)
[03:26] <Marlowe> johnw ar will be with gcc there somewhere
[03:26] <QMario> !Fax
[03:26] <kcskyl> hey marlowe, it says "could not resolve www.yahoo.com/80: temporary failure in name resolution"
[03:26] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, QMario
[03:26] <PorcupineTree> bob2, Thanks...
[03:26] <nalioth> QMario: howdy
[03:26] <meheren_> even thouth i now relize linux is far supperior
[03:26] <QMario> How do I fax over an VoIP phone?
[03:26] <Ropechoborra> WebLOCH Me too :( if somebody can give me a hand
[03:27] <PorcupineTree> bob2, Darn.. I see dapper will have a newer version og GhostScript.... :)   I can't wait!!
[03:27] <WebLOCH> Do the nvidia-glx drivers only work with the 386 kernel in use?
[03:27] <bob2> PorcupineTree: probably, but it's very very broken now
[03:27] <bob2> WebLOCH: no
[03:28] <WebLOCH> bob2, why does apt attempt to install them then ?
[03:28] <Marlowe> kcskyl well there's your problem, this won't work either "nslookup www.yahoo.com"
[03:28] <nickrud> johnw, if you haven't found it yet, ar is in binutils
[03:28] <QMario> Bob2, do you have a VoIP phone?
[03:28] <bob2> WebLOCH: what?
[03:28] <bob2> QMario: no
[03:28] <QMario> Does anyone know how to fax a message without a fax machine with a VoIP phone?
[03:29] <WebLOCH> bob2, if I try installing nvidia-glx, it forces me to get linux-image-386 and restricted-modules-386
[03:29] <QMario> Is there some open-source program that can do this?
[03:29] <Chizn> ba ba baaa ba baberell!
[03:29] <w0rd54> hello, running into a problem with an auto install of Ubuntu....after baseconfig it goes thru and installs packkages...stops at perl telling me I have not set locale correctly (I have set locale via kernel option as well as .seed config file I'm using) any suggestions?  when I turn DEBCONF_PRIORITY=critical it does not prompt me for conutry name/language but fails (even when I set via .seed file and kernel option) please advise
[03:30] <kcskyl> that gave me another error reading "connection timed out; no servrs could be reached"
[03:30] <watnou> wazzup Chizn ;)
[03:30] <Chizn> Wuzzuuuuuuuup!
[03:30] <colen> how do I go about shutting down a frozen application?
[03:30] <bob2> colen: what application?
[03:30] <Chizn> colen "killall <procname>"
[03:30] <Chizn> or!!
[03:30] <Marlowe> kcskyl you have no name resolution atm for some reason - maybe try reconnecting, see what happens
[03:30] <bob2> WebLOCH: what did you set it to?
[03:30] <Marlowe> colen xkill probably
[03:30] <colen> xmms is frozen
[03:31] <dabaR> killall xmss
[03:31] <Chizn> Applications > System Tools > System Monitor
[03:31] <Chizn> yehh!
[03:31] <nickrud> killall -9 xmms
[03:31] <bob2> WebLOCH: you're not using an ubuntu kernel?
[03:31] <Chizn> nickrud, whats the -9 for?
[03:31] <QMario> Chizn, do you have a VoIP phone?
[03:31] <Chizn> yea i do
[03:31] <Chizn> whyy?
[03:31] <WebLOCH> bob2, what do you mean what did i set it to?  If i mark "nvidia-glx" for installation it forces me to mark linux-image 386 and restricted modules for 386
[03:31] <colen> Chizn: is there a shortcut key (like ctrl alt del) to get to system monitor?
[03:31] <Marlowe> nickrud -9 is ok, but -TERM might be better
[03:31] <WebLOCH> bob2, I am using the 686-smp kernel
[03:31] <Chizn> colen, you can make one
[03:32] <nickrud> Marlowe, could be, I'm forceful at times :)
[03:32] <QMario> Chizn, have you ever successfully faxed over it without a fax machine in Linux?
[03:32] <Marlowe> lol
[03:32] <Chizn> System > preferences > Keyboard shortcuts
[03:32] <colen> kill xmms     does not do anything
[03:32] <Marlowe> killall
[03:32] <Chizn> colen, "killall xmms"
[03:32] <bob2> WebLOCH: no it doesn't
[03:33] <QMario> Chizn?
[03:33] <bob2> WebLOCH: install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-686-smp
[03:33] <Chizn> QMario, cant say ive tried
[03:33] <johnw> malowe, i only have /usr/share/doch/binutils-static which does not have ar
[03:33] <Chizn> im sure it could be possible though
[03:33] <colen> thank you everyone, got it sorted out
[03:33] <Lajuj> aphesz, hrrm, I am still getting the same error, perhaps I didn't uninstall the drivers completely before reinstalling
[03:33] <QMario> So am I... :-/
[03:33] <colen> things are a little different then xp... lol
[03:33] <Marlowe> johnw - just a sec...
[03:33] <WebLOCH> bob2, doing so now
[03:33] <QMario> Colen, Athlon XP. ;)
[03:33] <QMario> s/./?
[03:34] <QMario> Hee.
[03:34] <mahangu> !fonts
[03:34] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[03:34] <Ex-Cyber> what graphics chipset/family works best with X/DRI? (I mean the one with the fewest bugs / most of the chip's capabilites properly utilized, not what will give me a gazillion fps in glxgears)?
[03:34] <Chizn> you just need to relay your modem that would otherwise be used for faxing over a land line, to your speaker input and output
[03:34] <Chizn> then set up a script to time it correctly
[03:34] <Agrajag> Ex-Cyber: pretty much any nvidia
[03:34] <Chizn> or, just do it manually
[03:34] <colen> anyone else on hear just leave windows and a first time linux user?
[03:34] <WebLOCH> bob2, you are indeed the man, it would appear that has stopped synaptic prompting for the other 386 packages, i shall give this ago, you are my god.
[03:34] <Ex-Cyber> Agrajag: I said DRI
[03:34] <Agrajag> yeah...
[03:35] <Chizn> you will need, some cable, a rj11 plug and two 1/4 mic jacks
[03:35] <nickrud> johnw, sudo apt-get install binutils gets you ar
[03:35] <Chizn> and a fax app
[03:35] <Agrajag> oh, the open source stuff, not just direct rendering in general
[03:35] <Agrajag> some older ati thing then
[03:35] <Agrajag> like, a few years old
[03:36] <bob2> WebLOCH: nvidia-glx Depends on nvidia-modules-1.2.3, which doesn't exist. but all the various linux-r-m packages Provide it, so it picked the first it found
[03:36] <Chizn> kind of like the old fashioned 300baud BBS connections
[03:36] <bob2> if you tell it to use another one, it'll be just as happy
[03:36] <Ex-Cyber> Agrajag: well, I already have that, and it locks up unless I disable TCL :P
[03:36] <johnw> marlowe, you are the man!
[03:36] <johnw> marlow how are you so good at this?
[03:36] <Agrajag> Ex-Cyber: this is why I use nvidia
[03:36] <Lajuj> aphesz, whatcha think?
[03:36] <johnw> *marlowe
[03:36] <PorcupineTree> what is he making a cable for?
[03:36] <Ex-Cyber> that seems to be an obscure hardware bug though because I only know of about 2 or 3 other people who have experienced it
[03:36] <Ex-Cyber> and it may be VIA's fault
[03:36] <Marlowe> johnw you want the "binutils" package
[03:36] <QMario> Chizn, uh huh, uh huh... :)
[03:36] <Chizn> PorcupineTree, faxing from a 56k modem over his soundcard to a voip app connection
[03:37] <PorcupineTree> ohhh ok
[03:37] <PorcupineTree> I see
[03:37] <Chizn> or.. some mad kind of remapping to nul the cable setup completely
[03:37] <WebLOCH> bob2, you are as brave as you are wise, it makes sense i just assumed it would have been explicitly defined rather than selecting the first it found, assuming made fool of me
[03:37] <QMario> Whoa! Engineering.... :S
[03:37] <BeGu> Everytime I modify my .html files ubuntu automatically makes somekind of backup-file... how can I change that setting because I don't need those bacukps...
[03:37] <Chizn> Engineering?!
[03:37] <aphesz> Lajuj: im not sure either coz i've never used a Broadcom card before. you could try uninstall the drivers + ndiswrapper then repeat the process again
[03:38] <bob2> BeGu: modify them how?
[03:38] <Lajuj> aphesz, okay, I think I will
[03:38] <Lajuj> aphesz, thanks
[03:38] <aphesz> Lajuj: good luck mate :D
[03:38] <BeGu> bob2, just changing few things in the code
[03:38] <Lajuj> aphesz, : )
[03:38] <MarcN> xtr: netnation using ubuntu?  (/me a happy netnation customer)
[03:39] <PorcupineTree> Be cool if someone made a virual modem that used the wav channel on a soundcard :)
[03:39] <bob2> BeGu: I mean, "obviously ubuntu itself is not backing anything up; what program are you using to edit these files?"
[03:39] <w0rd54> hello, running into a problem with an auto install of Ubuntu....after baseconfig it goes thru and installs packkages...stops at perl telling me I have not set locale correctly (I have set locale via kernel option as well as .seed config file I'm using) any suggestions?  when I turn DEBCONF_PRIORITY=critical it does not prompt me for conutry name/language but fails (even when I set via .seed file and kernel option) please advise?!
[03:39] <Chizn> oui bomba with realtime modulation and demodulation..
[03:39] <WebLOCH> bob2, thanks once again you have solved the problem
[03:39] <bob2> PorcupineTree: that's how intel laptop winmodems work, more or less
[03:39] <BeGu> well, guess I have to study little more ->
[03:39] <Chizn> styyyylish
[03:39] <bob2> WebLOCH: np
[03:40] <QMario> Chizn, what about this: http://www.openh323.org/ .
[03:40] <QMario> s/./?
[03:40] <Chizn> mm h323 gateways
[03:40] <PorcupineTree> ahh
[03:40] <Chizn> i prefer to make things more.. tricky
[03:41] <johnw> how do I edit the $PATH variable?
[03:41] <johnw> $(echo ":/usr/lib") >> $PATH isn't working
[03:41] <QMario> Johnw, bashrc
[03:41] <bob2> johnw: depends what you're trying to do with it
[03:41] <QMario> .
[03:41] <Ex-Cyber> PorcupineTree: it's been done... actually "AMR" modems are just a more streamlined way of doing exactly that
[03:42] <johnw> QMario, I don't have that apparently
[03:42] <bob2> /usr/lib should not be in your $PATH
[03:42] <MarcN> johnw: export -p PATH=$PATH:/more/added       is one way at the command line or editing ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile
[03:42] <bob2> johnw: what is your goal?
[03:42] <QMario> Chizn, why a script?
[03:42] <QMario> What about Java or C++?
[03:42] <Chizn> for timinggg :(
[03:42] <johnw> bob2, apparently my path file doesn't have the gcc compile
[03:42] <johnw> *r
[03:42] <Chizn> :"(
[03:42] <PorcupineTree> oh ok
[03:42] <Ex-Cyber> PorcupineTree: as far as doing it in free software, I believe Fabrice Bellard (of qemu and ffmpeg fame) has been working on something but there are some snags for the more modern standards
[03:42] <eob84> does anyone know anything about configureing users for proftp?
[03:42] <MarcN> johnw: gcc is in /usr/bin   are you sure it is installed?
[03:43] <PorcupineTree> when I say virtual modem.. I meant no rj11 output but a direct streat to the soundcard for viop...  :)
[03:43] <johnw> bob2, why shouldn't /usr/lib be in path?
[03:43] <eob84> I am trying to set up a FTP server... can anyone give me a good place to start?
[03:43] <PorcupineTree> Hey I have an unreleated question... I have never patched a program.. how do I go about patching foomatic?
[03:44] <Chizn> PorcupineTree, there are more 'advanced' ways of doing it, unfortunately for the bodge gen
[03:44] <Ex-Cyber> PorcupineTree: ah... yeah, there is some old software to do that at like 300bps or so... you need an external circuit called a "line access arrangement" (I think) to interface the linelevel output to the phone line
[03:44] <PorcupineTree> I found th epatch tha I beleive I need...
[03:44] <Quest-Master> PorcupineTree, Porcupine Tree rocks. <3
[03:44] <PorcupineTree> Quest-Master, Thanks quest!! :)
[03:44] <QMario> What does "foomatic" mean?
[03:45] <del1cate> its for printers i think...
[03:45] <PorcupineTree> QMario, Foomatic is used for printing
[03:45] <Quest-Master> PorcupineTree :D I saw them live a few weeks ago.. amazing.
[03:45] <PorcupineTree> Same here Quest.. :)
[03:45] <QMario> Is the Ubuntu homepage down or something....?
[03:45] <bob2> johnw: uh, gcc is in /usr/bin/
[03:45] <bob2> johnw: if you don't see it there, you need to install build-essential
[03:46] <PorcupineTree> IS there info on patching foomatic?
[03:46] <bob2> johnw: because /usr/lib/ contains libraries (and internal helper programs), not executables
[03:46] <johnw> bob2 thanks a million
[03:46] <dabaR> qmario www.ubuntu.com
[03:47] <eob84> proftpd
[03:48] <johnw> where is bashrc?
[03:48] <adam_> I am having big troubles mounting my external drive. would someone mind taking a look at the output that i get when i type "dmesg"
[03:48] <MarcN> johnw: ~/.bashrc (your home directory)
[03:48] <johnw> thanks
[03:48] <MarcN> johnw: You shouldn't need to change your PATH.
[03:50] <adam_> anybody in here a familiar with mounting external hard drives? i dont really know what im doing
[03:50] <johnw> I need to take away ":/usr/lib" in $PATH
[03:50] <johnw> hints anyone?
[03:50] <eob84> dddI have before
[03:51] <eob84> you need to add it to the fstab
[03:51] <adam_> fstab?
[03:51] <eob84> example
[03:51] <eob84> yea
[03:51] <eob84> /etc/fstab
[03:52] <eob84> plug it in and type dmesg
[03:52] <eob84> see what it is linked to in the dev dir.
[03:52] <nickrud> johnw, make sure it does not exist in any of /etc/profile, /etc/bash.bashrc, ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc, and close all open terminals
[03:52] <QMario> Can I email to my fax machine and create this as a script/source code?
[03:53] <adam_> hmm.. is this is: /dev/scsi/host5/bus0/target0/lun0 ?
[03:53] <johnw> thanks all
[03:53] <johnw> l8r
[03:53] <eob84> it would be like.. sda2
[03:53] <dabaR> QMario: it seems you should really include what your want to do in your question.
[03:53] <eob84> or sci or something like that
[03:53] <eob84> depending on the port type you are using
[03:53] <dabaR> QMario: as opposed to a suggestion of the solution...
[03:54] <eob84> scsi is it a external SATA drive?
[03:54] <adam_> i think its: SCSI device sdb
[03:54] <eob84> k
[03:54] <rohal> is there anyway to boot into linux after windows wipes out grub from mbr.....i mean without restoring grub??
[03:54] <Sionide> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76633 <- argh, probably the best Howto *evar*
[03:54] <Sionide> Howto make crappy QT apps, look more Gnome-ish
[03:54] <QMario> DabaR, I have been seeing this faxing as e-mail thing as I was searching for answers.
[03:54] <QMario> It was curious guess. :-D
[03:54] <eob84> just reconfigure grub
[03:55] <adam_> i get a message saying that it was not mounted cleanly?
[03:55] <eob84> which sdb?
[03:55] <KJ> gud day
[03:55] <mc|amb> what's the best archive manager(ark, etc) ?
[03:55] <eob84> anyone here know how to configure users for proftpd
[03:56] <Ropechoborra> KJ espaol en #ubuntu-es o #comos ;)
[03:56] <nalioth> mc|amb: terminal
[03:56] <dabaR> why is my screen not redrawing properly? I have to hit ctrl+l all the time.
[03:56] <adam_> eob84 is there a way to show you my whole dmesg output?
[03:56] <KJ> how can i used my linux ubuntu on watching on my multimedia
[03:56] <dabaR> screen as in gnu screen
[03:56] <eob84> send me a private message
[03:56] <eob84> paste it in there
[03:56] <eob84> not all of it just the parts about scsi
[03:56] <QMario> Good night everyone!!! :)
[03:56] <mc|amb> nalioth: thanks, but I meant with a gui
[03:56] <QMario> Good night Chizn! Thank you for your help.
[03:57] <KJ> hi nalioth
[03:57] <mc|amb> so the question would be whats the best archive manager with a gui?
[03:57] <KJ> can u help me
[03:57] <nalioth> mc|amb: both of the ones you mentioned use the terminal programs as their backend
[03:57] <Chizn> QMario, you are happy fries
[03:57] <KJ> how can i use my multimedia
[03:57] <nalioth> KJ: the channel if full of helpful people
[03:57] <adam_> ehhh could you send my a pm? i am very new to irc
[03:57] <bur[n] er> KJ: that's a vague question
[03:58] <bur[n] er> KJ: i assume you wanna watch movies and listen to music?  totem for movies, and rhythmbox for music
[03:58] <bmk789> anyone use a MX240a?
[03:58] <bur[n] er> !tell kj about restricted
[03:58] <mustard5> KJ, you on breezy badger ubuntu version?
[03:58] <bob2> dabaR: screen + ssh?
[03:58] <KJ> how to use the totem movie player
[03:58] <bur[n] er> !tell adam_ about pastebin
[03:59] <PorcupineTree> I am liking the VLC media player
[03:59] <mc|amb> nalioth: you're right. sorry. do you know any other programs like those
[03:59] <PorcupineTree> IT seams to be a nice 1 stop app for multimedia playback
[03:59] <bur[n] er> KJ: double click any movies you have and totem opens :P
[03:59] <mustard5> KJ,  if you have breezy badger you can go to system>>help menu  and in help there is a ubuntu starters guide which explains many of these things
[03:59] <mustard5> KJ, feel free to ask questions here stii
[04:00] <mustard5> KJ, feel free to ask questions here still
[04:00] <nalioth> mc|amb: just the standard ones ark and file-roller
[04:00] <KJ> yah mustard tnx
[04:00] <KJ> tnx burn
[04:00] <nalioth> mc|amb: i use the terminal for all my unarchving duties
[04:00] <KJ> its really my first time to use this
[04:00] <bur[n] er> KJ: just play around :)  and enjoy
[04:01] <mustard5> KJ, read first, be careful second, and proceed with caution third
[04:01] <KJ> wer is yur location if i may ask
[04:01] <KJ> tnx for the advice
[04:02] <KJ> linux if a little complicated
[04:03] <dabaR> bob2: no, screen+gnu terminal
[04:03] <OneFootNinja> is this chat for ubuntu discussion only ?
[04:03] <dabaR> gnome-terminal
[04:03] <dabaR> bob2: I told you about it before, it only ahppens sometimes.
[04:04] <Xeromem> help
[04:04] <Xeromem> how can i close X
[04:04] <dabaR> missing letters, standard thing...or goes all blue(in irssi) mostly noticeable in irssi, cause it goes bad when the content changes(often in an irc channel)
[04:04] <Xeromem> to install nvidia drivers
[04:04] <OneFootNinja> I have a question about ubuntu ShipIt!, if someone know anything about that...
[04:05] <Xeromem> 550 people in here and nobody knows how to close X
[04:05] <OneFootNinja> ~[ Xeromem ] ~ people might not be watching the channel right now
[04:05] <NoUse> Xeromem you want to restart X or stop it from running?
[04:05] <learn25> Help. How to make mysql listen to port 3306 so that i can connect remotely to my ubuntu 5.10 server?
[04:05] <Xeromem> i have to stop it, i need terminal only
[04:05] <nalioth> OneFootNinja: ask your question
[04:06] <Xeromem> to install some drivers
[04:06] <OneFootNinja> How long does it take to ship teh CDs from when we order them ?
[04:06] <pipeline> #debian :Cannot send to channel
[04:06] <OneFootNinja> *the
[04:06] <Xeromem> OneFootNinja, 1~2 months
[04:06] <NoUse> Xeromem which drivers?
[04:06] <Xeromem> nvidia display drivers
[04:06] <OneFootNinja> oh... well that's a long wait :)
[04:07] <NoUse> Xeromem why don't you use the apt packaged drivers?
[04:07] <bob2> learn25: /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian
[04:07] <Xeromem> is that up to date?
[04:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> OneFootNinja: i just got Breezy cds, I'm stoked :D
[04:07] <NoUse> !tell Xeromem about nvidia
[04:07] <NoUse> Xeromem it works for me
[04:08] <jp4096> does anyone know which package(s) contain the header files for gcc ?
[04:08] <Xeromem> just tell me how i can stop x :)
[04:08] <bob2> jp4096: install build-essential, if you're trying to be able to compile basic C/C++ stuff
[04:09] <jp4096> Xeromem: usually CTRL-ALT backspace or CTRL-ALT delete to put you into text mode (I think) Then ALT F1 ALT F2 to switch virutal terminals.
[04:09] <Xeromem> ok thx
[04:09] <runedude> hey all
[04:09] <Xeromem> im gonna test it
[04:09] <runedude> I'm back.
[04:09] <runedude> Anyways, err
[04:09] <NoUse> Xeromem thats not it
[04:09] <NoUse> damn
[04:10] <runedude> I was wondering if anyone had a ACX100 working on Linux w/ WPA?
[04:10] <dabaR> bob2: switching between two screen terminals fixed it.
[04:10] <estupendocero> I want my secondary HD to mount on boot, but there's no /etc/vfstab. Should I create one, or is there something else I should do?
[04:11] <Neurosis> media/hda2
[04:11] <nekostar> bbiab restart of this X thing
[04:12] <dabaR> /etc/fstab?
[04:12] <estupendocero> oh yeah, duh
[04:12] <CarlF1> I just did "apt-get install hsftp" - how can I tell if it hung itself under a menu option?
[04:12] <estupendocero> thanks dabaR
[04:13] <dabaR> estupendocero: better question...what file is drive mount info stored in.
[04:13] <farruinn> CarlF1: I would check under applications>internet, but since it's from universe it may not have a .desktop file included
[04:14] <CarlF1> farruinn: so if there is no menu if there is no .desktop here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=hsftp&version=breezy&arch=i386
[04:15] <CarlF1> or could it be in one ofthe .gz files?
[04:15] <dabaR> CarlF1: very easy to make a menu icon.
[04:15] <CarlF1> dabaR - true, but If there is one I don't want to make a 2nd
[04:16] <kevmanZs> The ubuntu wiki is down?
[04:16] <morgs^^> ive decided to learn how to install deb packeges by command rather than be lazy with kpackage .....   what is the comand to install a deb package please???
[04:16] <dabaR> kevmanZs: did you ask this today already?
[04:16] <farruinn> CarlF1: yes, you can also check your installed apps with 'dpkg -L <package> | grep .desktop'
[04:16] <NoUse> kevmanZs it's not down
[04:16] <kevmanZs> Yes, and they told me to use the ubuntu.com wiki. But now that's down.
[04:16] <CarlF1> thanks
[04:16] <farruinn> morgs^^: 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb'
[04:16] <NoUse> kevmanZs no its not
[04:16] <learn25> How to check the version of my installed mysql server in ubuntu?
[04:16] <farruinn> morgs^^: but be careful, just because it's a deb package doesn't mean it's safe
[04:17] <farruinn> !apt-howto
[04:17] <ubotu> apt-howto is, like, at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
[04:17] <Neurosis> anyone know if visualbasic for linux is any good?
[04:17] <CarlF1> anyone have a recommendation of a GUI sftp client?
[04:17] <dabaR> kevmanZs: it loads here.
[04:17] <kevmanZs> Then this 404 error when I click "wiki" is the wiki? 0_o
[04:17] <morgs^^> thankyou farruinn  ... yah   kpackage will usually tell me if its shite or not
[04:17] <hav0k> hey!  installing printers?  what's that all about
[04:17] <bimberi> learn25: dpkg -l mysql-server
[04:17] <dabaR> kevmanZs: do you know of pinging? you use ping www.blah.com to determine whether it can be reached on the Internet from where you are.
[04:17] <hav0k> can i use my driver cd to do that
[04:17] <dabaR> no
[04:17] <bimberi> hav0k: no
[04:18] <NoUse> kevmanZs send the URL that you are getting a 404 on
[04:18] <CarlF1> hav0k: hit "add printer" and follow the wizard
[04:18] <bimberi> hav0k: System -> Administration -> Printing
[04:18] <kevmanZs> Its Ubuntu's servers giving me the 404 error. An official Ubuntu server error message.
[04:18] <Neurosis> how can i brodcast my cam onto the net with xawtv
[04:18] <kevmanZs> http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki/
[04:18] <Inchabod> wth
[04:18] <bimberi> kevmanZs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[04:18] <Inchabod> Gaim keeps randomly crashing.
[04:18] <Inchabod> without error.
[04:19] <mustard5> kevmanZs, its wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:19] <Dersursine> whats a good sftp program for ubuntu?
[04:19] <dabaR> kevmanZs: i told him today already:)
[04:19] <kevmanZs> Then why does the link at the top point to it?
[04:19] <NoUse> Dersursine nautilus can do it
[04:19] <Dersursine> kk
[04:19] <NoUse> kevmanZs it doesn't
[04:19] <Neurosis> how can i brodcast my cam onto the net with xawtv
[04:19] <dabaR> kevmanZs: the topic?
[04:20] <kevmanZs> That's really odd... It must be my shitty ISp.
[04:20] <mustard5> kevmanZs, I don't know what link you are looking at....but its https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[04:20] <hav0k> cool, but, what if my printer is not on the list?
[04:20] <mustard5> kevmanZs, note the https not http
[04:20] <dabaR> both is fine.
[04:20] <kevmanZs> mustard5, if you go to ubuntu.com, the wiki link at the top points to the wrong place.
[04:21] <mustard5> kevmanZs, report to webmaster perhaps
[04:21] <kevmanZs> Yeah. But I got to make sure it isn't my ISP pulling caching shit first.
[04:21] <rmulliga> Hey has anyone had any trouble with Firefox coming up with xml errors when you try to access preferences or download things?
[04:22] <dabaR> isp does no such thing, kevmanZs ] 
[04:22] <Neurosis> how can i brodcast my cam onto the net with xawtv?
[04:22] <dabaR> yopur browser on the other hand...
[04:22] <kevmanZs> its my school, really, dabaR.
[04:22] <NoUse> Neurosis I don't think xawtv is designed to do that
[04:22] <kevmanZs> They do really strange shit.
[04:22] <Neurosis> Darnit.
[04:22] <CarlF1> nautilus can do sftp?
[04:22] <kevmanZs> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToInstallTheWlanNgDriverInHoary?highlight=%28wlan%29 <- Does this still apply to Breezy?
[04:22] <NoUse> CarlF1 yeah
[04:22] <dabaR> hey, kevmanZs you ahve a point, that link is dead on the page....that is report wordthy
[04:23] <dabaR> worthy
[04:23] <bob2> rmulliga: restart it
[04:23] <kevmanZs> I can't my DNS just died.
[04:23] <bob2> rmulliga: firefox pukes if you upgrade it while it's running
[04:24] <farruinn> wow - anyone else experiencing this: both rhythmbox and amarok crash with memory errors when my iPod is connected
[04:24] <CarlF1> NoUse: I see ftp (public) and ftp (login) - how do I set sftp?
[04:24] <testme> can someone please do me a favor, and make a http request to  69.197.133.102
[04:24] <testme>  -- I want to be sure my webserver isn't accessible beyond 127.0.0.1
[04:24] <dabaR> testme: ping yourself
[04:24] <rsosborn> Hello
[04:24] <rsosborn> need help linux noob
[04:25] <rsosborn> some reason when I install software it will not run
[04:25] <dabaR> enter your ip address into a browser.
[04:25] <bob2> rmulliga: eg.?
[04:25] <dabaR> testme: login to some other computer, and  ping yourself from there.
[04:25] <rsosborn> the Icons are there just won't run
[04:25] <rsosborn> samething happened with open office and limwire
[04:25] <bob2> rmulliga: and the software you installed was...
[04:25] <testme> I don't have any remote shells
[04:25] <rsosborn> any ideas ?
[04:25] <bob2> bah
[04:25] <robert__> what do I do if I want to wipe my hard drive and reinstall ubuntu
[04:25] <dabaR> testme: I gave you 2 more alternatives
[04:25] <Neurosis> whats a good program to brodcast my webcam on my own server
[04:25] <bob2> rmulliga: first, reconsider
[04:26] <bob2> bah
[04:26] <rmulliga> bob2: Thank you very much bob2
[04:26] <bob2> robert__: first, reconsider
[04:26] <bob2> rmulliga: working now?
[04:26] <NoUse> CarlF1 SFTp is the same as SSH
[04:26] <bob2> robert__: then boot the install cd
[04:26] <testme> when i put my IP in firefox i get a page
[04:26] <brenner> robert__: just use the installer
[04:26] <rmulliga> bob2: yea I just had to restart firefox
[04:26] <kestas> is there a way to upload songs to an ipod from ubuntu?
[04:26] <dabaR> testme: means it works
[04:26] <testme> #apache
[04:27] <testme> dabaR - what config file would restrict my apache2 to only 127.0.0.1, do you know?
[04:28] <CarlF1> NoUse: got it!..  this is too cool.  thanks
[04:28] <dabaR> bob2: who do we tell about the dead link on the ubuntu.com site? the wiki link on the top is dead.
[04:28] <testme> (I thought firestarter was blocking it_
[04:28] <Dersursine> is it possible to set a keyboard shortcut for winkey-m to minimize everything? It tried the keyboard shortcuts manager and it wont let me do multipul keys
[04:28] <dabaR> rephrase'
[04:29] <testme> I don't want my apache2 to be publicly accessible - only or local testing - haven't found the way to have it NOT listen to the public address
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> testme, don't use port 80 then ... use another port
[04:29] <WebLOCH> testme, on the install guide it tells you how to stop that
[04:30] <brenner> kestas: : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto maybe?
[04:30] <rsosborn> Can someone give me a hand
[04:30] <rsosborn> or any ideas
[04:30] <rsosborn> seems like when I install programs they will not run
[04:30] <bimberi> Dersursine: what happens when you do <ctrl><alt><D>
[04:30] <Dersursine> let me try that
[04:30] <rsosborn> for example I dpkg openoffice 2.0 and when I click the icon it will not open
[04:30] <testme> does anyone offer a remote SSH shell with Lynx for cheap $$$ ? :)
[04:31] <WebLOCH> testme,  sudo cp /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[04:31] <Dersursine> nothing when i do it, but i can set that as a shortcut
[04:31] <WebLOCH> testme, change it to  127.0.0.1:80
[04:31] <wickedpuppy> rsosborn, pls give the full command you did
[04:31] <bimberi> Dersursine: ah, that's usually "show desktop"
[04:31] <WebLOCH> testme, then it will only allow local connections
[04:31] <Dersursine> ah, its winkey-m on windows, which is what im used to :(
[04:31] <dabaR> WebLOCH: cp from that to what?
[04:31] <rsosborn> well first I did alien *.rpm
[04:31] <bimberi> Dersursine: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[04:31] <rsosborn> to convert the rpms to deb files
[04:31] <Dersursine> yup
[04:31] <dabaR> rsosborn: thats not how you install files.
[04:32] <rsosborn> hmmm
[04:32] <bimberi> Dersursine: unlearn! :)
[04:32] <WebLOCH> dabaR, I dont understand what you're askin ?
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> rsosborn, alien is eh ... discouraged ... btw openoffice 2 is in the repo why you need rpm ?
[04:32] <Dersursine> lol
[04:32] <testme> WebLOCH - doh! I didn't think it would take the IP since its called ports.conf... erk thanks!
[04:32] <Dersursine> I still have to use winblows everywhere else tho :(
[04:32] <dabaR> < WebLOCH> testme,  sudo cp /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[04:32] <rsosborn> anywhere i can look to show me how to install rpm's
[04:32] <rsosborn> I'm new to linux
[04:32] <rsosborn> and would like to learn
[04:32] <WebLOCH> dabaR, sorry meant gedit/nano/vi
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> rsosborn, get used to apt-get and synaptic
[04:32] <dabaR> rsosborn: install .debs, and only through synaptic is a good advice.
[04:33] <Dersursine> testme: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/misc/security_tips.html
[04:33] <WebLOCH> testme, i didnt mean copy i meant edit
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> Dersursine, don't try to replace windows ... its a bad idea ... start everything new
[04:33] <rsosborn> right but the files only came in .rpm
[04:33] <farruinn> rsosborn: a lot of work is put into making a good distribution, you might as well take advantage of it with apt
[04:33] <rsosborn> how to I install them
[04:33] <Dersursine> its a good read overall :-D, but it also talks about limiting what IP's can connect
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> rsosborn, system->admin->synaptic
[04:33] <farruinn> rsosborn: what software are you trying to install?
[04:33] <testme> dabaR and WebLOCH - yes, I edited ports.conf and that fixed it, dumb name for the conf file...
[04:33] <bimberi> Dersursine: fair enough :), the shortcut is "Hide all windows and focus desktop"
[04:33] <farruinn> rsosborn: it's possible it's already in the ubuntu repository
[04:33] <rsosborn> office 2.0
[04:33] <Dersursine> yup, i found it, just wanted winkey to work :(
[04:33] <Dersursine> oh well, ctrl-alt-d is good
[04:34] <bimberi> Dersursine: btw, try windows-D under windows some time - does the same thing (show desktop)
[04:34] <Dersursine> ah
[04:34] <Dersursine> try winkey-m ^^
[04:34] <farruinn> rsosborn: openoffice.org2?
[04:34] <rsosborn> I guess the latest release of office
[04:34] <rsosborn> I thought it was called 2.0
[04:34] <testme> if it were called bind-address.conf it would be more intuitive than ports.conf that takes an IP, IMHO
[04:35] <dabaR> bimberi: wrong word underlined...shuld be work...
[04:35] <rsosborn> oh got it
[04:35] <farruinn> rsosborn: look under Applications>Office :)
[04:35] <farruinn> rsosborn: ok
[04:35] <rsosborn> I found it in synaptic manager
[04:35] <rsosborn> I will try to install from
[04:35] <rsosborn> there
[04:35] <rsosborn> when I installed before it appeared to have worked and was under applications
[04:35] <rsosborn> but when I click the icon it would not run
[04:35] <testme> anyway, thanks again. ciao!
[04:36] <bimberi> dabaR: lol yeah
[04:36] <dabaR> I dont get it how it is that people that switch from windows always are so impatient even with ubuntu's release cycles, to get new packages, in windows, you get a new version every five years.
[04:36] <Wonky> Hello.  Is anyone awake?
[04:37] <dabaR> is the tarek_bot1 annoying anyone else?
[04:37] <Dersursine> well........ 6months is only 10x better than 5 years...
[04:37] <apokryphos> dabaR: how?
[04:37] <dabaR> those were figurative
[04:37] <tarek> dabaR, why ?
[04:37] <dabaR> coming and going
[04:37] <intelikey> new version every five years is fine with me..... as long and it's not stamped with M$
[04:37] <Dersursine> id say they were pretty close
[04:37] <bimberi> dabaR: apart from join/leave-ing no
[04:38] <brenner> i think they hunger for apps and drivers though, not the entire OS
[04:38] <tarek> it's my bot to log entries in the channel, i have problems to configure it
[04:38] <fonesic> hi
[04:38] <dabaR> ok
[04:38] <Dersursine> hmm, i must not have join/leave's being shown, havent noticed it, or anyone else comming or going...
[04:38] <apokryphos> tarek: well, you shouldn't have it in here if it's gonna cause problems
[04:38] <ecobuntu> gdesklets are great
[04:38] <ecobuntu> i've never played with them before
[04:38] <spiderworm> hi all, im thinking about upgrading my hoary mythtv box to breezy, it also has nvidia 3d acceleration working, if i upgrade to breezy, do you guys think i will break the 3d accel and mythtv?
[04:38] <CaBlGuY> !pastbin
[04:38] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:38] <apokryphos> tarek: kind of wondering why you have a bot logging here when there's already, erm, two 8)
[04:38] <nuck> hi im installing an app which is dependent on a lib.  I have installed this lib but the installation of the other app still says the lib is still not available? how come? thanks
[04:38] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, you typoed
[04:39] <farruinn> nuck: did you install via apt-get?
[04:39] <CaBlGuY> sure did.. :p
[04:39] <tarek> apokryphos, it's not meant to cause problem, beside it's a bot that log multiple channels
[04:39] <CaBlGuY> !pastebin
[04:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:39] <apokryphos> tarek: yes, but why would you want it to log *this* one?
[04:39] <nuck> farruinn no via synaptic
[04:39] <farruinn> tarek: there are so many people coming and going here, I don't even notice it
[04:40] <nuck> i stopped using the command line instller dpkg and apt-get when i got my hands on synaptic
[04:40] <farruinn> nuck: ok, same-same pretty much.  Do you get an error when trying to install the second package?
[04:40] <Dersursine> logging this channel must be a pain, theres a ton of stuff to go through, and it would take a LLOOOOTTT of space.
[04:40] <apokryphos> tarek: I don't really care if you do course 8), just don't see the logic.
[04:40] <tarek> apokryphos, is that a problem for you ?
[04:40] <nuck> yes im actually installing the openldap server slapd
[04:40] <nuck> farruinn
[04:40] <bimberi> tarek: in case you didn't know - http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[04:41] <nuck> its saying configure: error: BDB/HDB: BerkeleyDB not available
[04:41] <spiderworm> anybody know if upgrading from hoary to breezy breaks mythtv, nvidia 3d accel ?
[04:41] <nuck> farruinn when i have alrady installed libdb4.3
[04:41] <tarek> bimberi, thx, i know
[04:41] <bimberi> tarek: k :)
[04:42] <WebLOCH> hey guys
[04:42] <Wonky> GRUB INSTALL:  I'm following a dmraid wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto but I'm running into problems running root (hd0,0).  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7.
[04:42] <WebLOCH> anyone got any idea why my audio might not be working for an xvid in totem ?
[04:42] <nuck> farruinn i think the problem was it needed the libdb4.3-dev version it seems to be working now
[04:43] <biju> hi guys
[04:43] <farruinn> nuck: are you trying to build slapd or just install it via synaptic?
[04:43] <biju> anyone to help me out here with grub issues I am facing
[04:43] <Wonky> Hey, I'm having grub issues as well.
[04:43] <nuck> no im building it as well
[04:43] <Dersursine> ok, why is it that two applications take up the whole task bar after I have a few open and close them all?
[04:43] <nuck> farruinn
[04:43] <NoUse> biju ask your question
[04:44] <biju> Hi NoUse, let me send you the link I posted on the forum
[04:44] <NoUse> biju no I mean ask your question to the channel, if someone can help they will
[04:44] <bimberi> Dersursine: gee thanks, that's going to really annoy me now :P
[04:44] <farruinn> nuck: ah, that would be why. do 'apt-get build-dep <package>' before trying to build <package>
[04:45] <Dersursine> lol bimberi
[04:45] <dabaR> farruinn: wouldnt that have to mean the package is alredy in his list?
[04:45] <bimberi> Dersursine: dunno why tho :|
[04:45] <farruinn> dabaR: what do you mean?
[04:45] <nuck> farruinn but i dont use the apt-get command line tools anymore... have bad memories with them
[04:45] <Dersursine> ive tried everything I can think of and cant find a way to rresize it, other than limiting the entire taskbar's length
[04:45] <dabaR> well, can apt build-deps for a pckg that is not already in the package list?
[04:45] <biju> when I try to boot from hard disk, I just get a blank screen with GRUB, I dont even get the grub> promt
[04:46] <dabaR> nuck: but this one is on your screen
[04:46] <dabaR> biju: are you in ubuntu now?
[04:46] <farruinn> dabaR: he wanted to build slapd so he'd do 'sudo apt-get build-dep slapd' and it would install packages required to build slapd (does that ansewr the question?)
[04:46] <biju> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83285
[04:46] <biju> yes I am in ubuntu now
[04:46] <nuck> dabaR sorry didnt get what you meant by whats on my screen?
[04:46] <bimberi> Dersursine: they make room for new entries though, what's the expression? "it not a bug it's a feature"
[04:47] <dabaR> only if slapd is in his package list(through sources.list, otherwise apt would not know what deps to build
[04:47] <dabaR> biju: the apt command you need to use
[04:47] <dabaR> you dont have to remember it, copy and paste
[04:47] <Dersursine> lol, but this feature needs the ability to be disabled, it makes it look cluttered >.>
[04:47] <farruinn> nuck: hehe, well I always have a terminal window open so I find apt-get more convenient than waiting for synaptic
[04:47] <dabaR> nuck: and there is only so many of them...
[04:48] <farruinn> Dersursine: interesting, I have two windows open but they're not taking up the enter panel
[04:48] <farruinn> Dersursine: the buttons that is
[04:48] <Dersursine> open like 5 more, then close a few
[04:48] <dabaR> sometimes they do, sometimes not
[04:48] <biju> thanks for your help dabaR...
[04:48] <dabaR> anytime
[04:48] <biju> whats the command that I have to use?
[04:49] <farruinn> Dersursine: still not taking up the whole panel
[04:49] <GTroy_> what are some cool communications apps?
[04:49] <Dersursine> hmm, weird
[04:49] <dabaR> biju: sorry, that was meant for nuck
[04:49] <ecobuntu> what do i need to listen to mp3 with ubuntu?
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> !mp3
[04:49] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[04:49] <ecobuntu> i thought i just needed akode-mpeg?
[04:49] <dabaR> biju: you are in ubuntu through the live cd?
[04:49] <farruinn> Dersursine: what do you have maximum size set to under the "size" tab?
[04:49] <biju> yes, I actually used the suse cd to boot from the cd
[04:50] <intelikey> ecobuntu sox maybe?
[04:50] <Dersursine> 4096, when I changed it to 500, it seemed to limit the max size of all of the buttons combined
[04:50] <dabaR> biju: have you posted your /boot/grub/menu.lst on some pastebin?
[04:50] <ecobuntu> what's sox?  i've never installed that before
[04:50] <farruinn> Dersursine: odd, I have 4096
[04:50] <NoUse> !tell biju about grub
[04:50] <NoUse> biju try some of those links
[04:51] <Dersursine> Ya, I assume thats so it will fill the entire taskbar on any system and not have space that can't be utilized
[04:51] <intelikey> ecobuntu it's cli decoder for audio files   you probably want a gui package.
[04:51] <ecobuntu> i am using rhythmbox
[04:51] <ecobuntu> so i need to d/l cli decode?
[04:51] <dabaR> ecobuntu: for mp3s, the link is  posted above.
[04:52] <biju> thanks NoUse!
[04:52] <biju> I did go throught the first 2
[04:52] <learn25> Help: how to login with password in mysql? i got this message:
[04:52] <Dersursine> !cli
[04:52] <ubotu> hmm... cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[04:52] <learn25> learn25@cea:~$ mysql -u root
[04:52] <learn25> ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[04:52] <learn25> learn25@cea:~$
[04:52] <DjKritical> Why would I get 'access denied' with a directory with these file permissions -> drwxrw-rw-
[04:52] <ecobuntu> i checked out ath wiki
[04:52] <farruinn> DjKritical: depends on the owner:group
[04:52] <farruinn> DjKritical: n/m
[04:52] <ecobuntu> but it's only talking about mp3s with k3b
[04:53] <LaserJock> ecobuntu: look under Codecs
[04:53] <Dersursine> learn25, you have to pass the root password as an argument. try 'man mysql' or 'mysql --help'
[04:53] <farruinn> DjKritical: I think the important parts would be --x--x--x
[04:53] <DjKritical> farruinn, but as far as I can tell.. that should be accessable to everyone?
[04:53] <intelikey> DjKritical you execute a dir to cd into it.....    dirs need +x
[04:53] <DjKritical> farruinn, isn't x just execute?
[04:53] <DjKritical> oh.. really?
[04:53] <mustard5> DjKritical, is it an ntfs partition mounted on that directory?
[04:54] <httpdss> learn25: did you assign a passwrd for root ??
[04:54] <DjKritical> mustard5, no plane old ext3
[04:54] <mustard5> yk
[04:54] <mustard5> k
[04:54] <binaryc> I have a 6.1 sound setup, how do I go about getting sound out of my rear channels (even if it is just mirrored from the front)
[04:54] <DjKritical> I thought execute meant execute scripts/applications...
[04:54] <learn25> yes
[04:54] <Dersursine> learn25, you have to pass the root password as an argument. try 'man mysql' or 'mysql --help'
[04:54] <DjKritical> ok I'd better change the umask on my ftp to 000 then :P
[04:54] <httpdss> then do mysql -u root -p
[04:55] <learn25> what's the command line to login with password
[04:55] <learn25> ok
[04:55] <Dersursine> wouldnt 000 deny the owner of the file as well?
[04:55] <dabaR> ecobuntu: impossible. it tells you the "codec" package and also talks about xmms.
[04:55] <Wonky> Hi Folks!  I've got a problem with grub.  I wonder if one of you could help me out.  Currently, I'm in the LiveDVD Ubuntu.  I'm following a dmraid wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto but I'm running into problems running root (hd0,0).  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7.
[04:55] <ecobuntu> i just saw that
[04:56] <ecobuntu> i installed akode-mpeg
[04:56] <thirso> what do i have to do to make ubuntu's grub default? (installed another dist)
[04:56] <ecobuntu> i see what i need to install now
[04:56] <dabaR> never heard of it.
[04:56] <DjKritical> Dersursine, umask is the oppisite.. umask 000 means chmod 777
[04:56] <dabaR> good
[04:56] <ecobuntu> how do you guys get libdvdcss?
[04:56] <dabaR> !dvd
[04:56] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2 which you can obtain by installing 'libdvdread3' and then running 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[04:56] <Dersursine> ah
[04:56] <sells> anyone know how to install limewire
[04:57] <dabaR> from the site.
[04:57] <ecobuntu> libdvdread3 didn't work for me last time...maybe it will this time...not sure
[04:57] <dabaR> ecobuntu: dont forget the second part.
[04:57] <learn25> Thanks guys!
[04:57] <learn25> The command to enter mysql with password is
[04:57] <learn25> mysql -u root -p
[04:58] <learn25> thanks
[04:58] <dabaR> thats the command to enter as root with a password.
[04:58] <learn25> i'm now logged in
[04:59] <ecobuntu> i see
[04:59] <ecobuntu> that makes sense
[04:59] <ecobuntu> it goes and d/l libdvdcss for me
[04:59] <ecobuntu> brillant
[04:59] <dabaR> hehe
[04:59] <binaryc> I have a 6.1 sound setup, how do I go about setting up alsa to get sound out of my rear channels (even if it is just mirrored from the front)
[04:59] <learn25> my last problem is how to make mysql 4.0 to be accessed remotely via port 3306
[04:59] <learn25> anybody?
[04:59] <ecobuntu> ubuntu is pretty good
[04:59] <ecobuntu> i am impressed overall with it
[05:00] <dabaR> learn25: probably already runs on that port. config files are in /etc/mysql/, read them
[05:00] <dabaR> it sucks.
[05:00] <dabaR> come on now..
[05:01] <bob2> dabaR: webmaster@ubuntu.com
[05:02] <biju> Hi guys, everything looks ok to me, only thing is that my /boot partition is beyond the 1024 cylinder
[05:02] <farruinn> anyone have any idea how I can get my user id number on my OS X partition w/o rebooting?
[05:02] <biju> does it have be the first partition?
[05:02] <nekostar> ok well i've a problem with window list and window switcher applets crashing with dual monitors..
[05:02] <sells> does anyone know where and how I can install LimeWire
[05:03] <bob2> biju: you don't need /boot partitions in the modern linux era
[05:03] <bob2> ie since 2001 or so
[05:03] <nekostar> anyone expreienced this // solved it?
[05:03] <nekostar> sells, www.google.com
[05:03] <sells> nekostar: cool
[05:03] <sells> nekostar: what about install directions
[05:03] <alexandros> sell: /opt
[05:03] <nekostar> how about www.justfuckinggoogleit.com
[05:03] <misfit_toy> nekostar, I've only seen that when accessing SMB shares and having dual monitors...weird bug
[05:03] <biju> bob2, my system wouldnt boot from harddisk, I just get a blank screen with GRUB. I dont' even get the grub> promt
[05:04] <sells> nekostar: what?
[05:04] <nekostar> yeah misfit_toy, im running fx5200 nvidia and running 2 X-servers
[05:04] <alexandros> sells: /opt
[05:04] <dabaR> sells: nothing, google for installing the program.
[05:04] <nekostar> i mean sells your asking in the wrong place
[05:04] <misfit_toy> nekostar, check your xorg.conf (once again, I'm sure you've done it a billion times...)
[05:04] <dabaR> nekostar: chill:)
[05:04] <bob2> "you're"
[05:04] <nekostar> yes you're sorry bob2
[05:04] <thirso> what do i have to do to make ubuntu's grub default again? (installed another dist)
[05:05] <sells> nekostar: really, I was fairly certain that this was a place with help for linux
[05:05] <nekostar> yeah ive checked it misfit_toy
[05:05] <bob2> nekostar: please?
[05:05] <LaserJock> sells: try http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[05:05] <misfit_toy> nekostar, I posted mine on a fedora site, perhaps you can compare...it was a bitch to get it working...
[05:05] <sells> LaseJock: thanks
[05:05] <bob2> thirso: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:05] <misfit_toy> nekostar, hold on...
[05:05] <bob2> biju: why do you think this is related to a 1024 limit?
[05:05] <dabaR> LaserJock: bad idea.
[05:05] <estupendocero> when I mount hdb1, it is my master HDD, same as hda1. Shouldn't it be my slave?
[05:05] <nekostar> thanx misfit_toy .. bob2 huh? >.<
[05:06] <misfit_toy> nekostar, http://fedorasolved.com/viewtopic.php?t=157
[05:06] <bob2> estupendocero: hdb = first slave. why do you think it's a master?
[05:06] <biju> because, everything else looks OK to me..
[05:06] <intelikey> estupendocero raid ?
[05:06] <nekostar> the deal is sells they seem to be rather hard on filesharing here.. see if there is a #limewire or something like that sells
[05:06] <misfit_toy> nekostar, that's a pure ubuntu breezy xorg.conf there
[05:06] <estupendocero> no, not raid
[05:06] <LaserJock> dabaR: why? just curious
[05:06] <nekostar> thanx misfit_toy ill look :D o.O even betteh
[05:06] <sells> nekostar: thanks man
[05:06] <estupendocero> bob2, because it IS. when I mount it, it contains my root filesystem
[05:06] <dabaR> LaserJock: read what ubotu told you.
[05:06] <nekostar> though sells drop me a line if you figure it out :P
[05:06] <estupendocero> it's WEIRD. Reflects changes and everything
[05:06] <Wonky> Is anyone familiar with GRUB?  I've got some problems with root (hd,0) on a manual setup.  I'm getting Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7.  I'm following the dmraid wiki:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto
[05:07] <bob2> estupendocero: you mean hdb1 appears to be the same partition as hda1?
[05:07] <intelikey> estupendocero sounds raid'd ?
[05:07] <LaserJock> dabaR: ok thanx, I don't use it personally but I didn't realize it was out of date
[05:07] <sells> nekostar: got it man
[05:07] <estupendocero> bob1, correct
[05:07] <dabaR> it is. I had a guy here with their sources.list(hoary) and a breezy system:)
[05:07] <nekostar> misfit_toy, think it might be the GLcore and the  dri loading?
[05:07] <estupendocero> intelikey, it better not be, that means I lost my backed up data
[05:08] <estupendocero> intelikey, could that have happened accidentally at install?
[05:08] <dabaR> sells: other than this limewire thing, dont use the ubuntuguide before asking whether it is correct.
[05:08] <misfit_toy> nekostar, if you have the nvidia drivers FROM NVIDIA, then likely
[05:09] <intelikey> yeah....  do a "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd? "   and see what things look like also check /.dev/
[05:09] <estupendocero> intelikey, I have no experience with RAID
[05:09] <bob2> estupendocero: that's surreal
[05:09] <estupendocero> bob2, I KNOW
[05:09] <nekostar> actually... you have twinview on too... i used nvidia-glx package from ubuntu.. but is that using 2 instances of x or one?
[05:09] <bob2> estupendocero: can you show us what "mount" says, in #flood?
[05:09] <estupendocero> sure
[05:09] <x86i> Minor question, more of a political question. Does anyone feel that using the 'server' option when installing is somehow lazy compaired to installing debian?
[05:10] <nekostar> i can do it easy and proper with just one instance of x and twinview... but im trying to make each monitor seperate and independant so i can maximize my video apps and get different resolutions on each
[05:10] <misfit_toy> nekostar, so you didn't install kernel specific nvidia drivers?
[05:10] <bob2> nekostar: so you just want two X servers?
[05:10] <dabaR> x86i: we think its a too complicated question to answer in one line. But, here it is - they have diff packages, so, its a different thing.
[05:11] <intelikey> estupendocero you can "stat /dev/hdb1 "  for a little more info about the inode, just incase it is a symlink or something.
[05:11] <misfit_toy> nekostar, I've never used the nvidia-glx package, I always run the nvidia drivers from scratch
[05:11] <bob2> x86i: not really...ubuntu makes a great server for some things; security supported new versions of postfix, posgresql and spamassassin every six months can be very handy
[05:11] <x86i> thank you dabaR, thats kind of how I feel.. I like Ubuntu, and I think it should be used in all aspects, since like you said, its different.
[05:12] <nekostar> kernel specific drivers? nope... i made seperate configs for single and dual X servers... then merged em so i could try switiching b/t server configurations... which didnt work yet.. though ive some good clues... and ive no idea how to run from scratch unless you mean self compiled... in which case im still learning about all that :D
[05:12] <estupendocero> intelikey, nope, the inodes are different... I'll post in flood
[05:12] <x86i> The reason for asking, is I caught some flakk from debian users for putting ubuntu on some of my newly published servers.
[05:12] <x86i> I just wanted to know why the animosity
[05:12] <sells> dabaR: what exactly are you talking about man
[05:14] <tescoil> Gimp 2.2 is acting (well, in light of years of experience with prior versions) very *weird*.
[05:14] <bob2> hah
[05:14] <Wonky> Is anyone familiar with GRUB?  I've got some problems with root (hd0,0) on a manual setup.  I'm getting Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7.  I'm following the dmraid wiki:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto         What do I need to do to get grub to recognize the /boot?
[05:14] <dr_willis> Ive always heard Gimps are weird. :P
[05:15] <tescoil> I took a screenshot, cropped it, and the image, um, stays exactly where it's at when I move the viewing window.
[05:15] <tescoil> I don't know if that description conveys.
[05:16] <bob2> tescoil: it's like the image is glued to the screen?
[05:16] <brenner> x86i: animosity from debian folk is nothing new in my experience
[05:16] <tescoil> Sort of, I guess.
[05:16] <bob2> x86i: some debian users really do like debian
[05:16] <bob2> x86i: i'm sure your ubuntu users will bitch when you move to sco unix
[05:16] <x86i> true, but to say its lazy. I guess its that 'leet' club thing again.
[05:17] <ecobuntu> what does vanilla kernel mean?
[05:18] <tescoil> bob2: the image stays at the same screen geometry.  As I change the position of the viewing window, it disappears until I move it back to the position of the image.
[05:18] <bob2> tescoil: uh, that's surreal
[05:18] <bob2> ecobuntu: depends on the context
[05:18] <tescoil> bob2: and not very productive.
[05:18] <misfit_toy> ecobuntu, vanilla = plain, untouched, usually
[05:18] <bob2> ecobuntu: it often means "a kernel from kernel.org", that is, vanilla in the sens of not being modified by distributions
[05:18] <ecobuntu> ok
[05:19] <bob2> ecobuntu: it could also mean "unchanged ubuntu kernel"
[05:19] <x86i> vanilla, IE not chocolate.
[05:19] <bob2> hm, which I had some chocolate
[05:19] <bob2> ie a cherry ripe ;)
[05:19] <x86i> All I've got are brownies.
[05:19] <misfit_toy> brownies!!!
[05:19] <x86i> poor me.
[05:20] <x86i> lol
[05:20] <misfit_toy> with or without nuts?
[05:20] <misfit_toy> with or without icing?
[05:20] <x86i> Well, I did half with nuts
[05:20] <misfit_toy> HOMEMADE BROWNIES???? sheesh....you are da man
[05:20] <x86i> half with extra hersheys kisses
[05:21] <tescoil> bob2: okay, this applies only to the screenshot I took.
[05:21] <tescoil> other images are fine.
[05:21] <x86i> yeah, I don't like premade brownies. They are hardly every perfect, unless you get it right from a bakery, and eat it right then
[05:22] <nekostar> hey thanx misfit_toy i think i might have that beat... only time can tell though :D
[05:22] <x86i> tescoil: I've had that happen before as well. Gimp right?
[05:23] <estupendocero> bob2, thanks for the help, I'm going to cautiously access my data now
[05:23] <poningru> is planet ubuntu down?
[05:23] <nekostar> apparently having 2 full configs in one config file using and not using things like twinview can be er bad <.<
[05:23] <tescoil> x86i. yeah, 2.2.  It appears to be something to do with layering.
[05:23] <bob2> estupendocero: hah, np
[05:23] <misfit_toy> nekostar, best of luck
[05:23] <bob2> poningru: everything in the DC seems to be very slow today
[05:23] <louis_> praise the lord
[05:23] <x86i> tescoil: I think it might have the original layer thats transparent on. Also, what resolution is the screen shot?
[05:24] <tescoil> x86i, 1280x1024, which is larger than I'm accustomed.
[05:25] <poningru> bob2: yeah it hasnt loaded for me in a while
[05:25] <bob2> poningru: loads here, but very slowly
[05:25] <x86i> tescoil: Hrm. The only thing I can suggest is to copy the screenshot, via the COPY command, and open anew then paste
[05:27] <x86i> I was very suprised. I ran outta candy last night, so I started giving out brownies. I wasn't sued. Amazing
[05:27] <tescoil> x861, mm, I selected the image area, copied, and pasted as new.  That had the same effect.
[05:28] <Tatsuya> your supposed to turn off your light so people know your out
[05:28] <x86i> lol
[05:28] <x86i> fat chance of that happening. Its either give up the goods, or have a brick in the window
[05:28] <bob2> hah
[05:29] <Tatsuya> or tp in your trees
[05:29] <bob2> I feel like we should start an Annual Free Candy Day on oct 31st here
[05:29] <x86i> where is here bob2?
[05:30] <bob2> .au
[05:30] <x86i> ah
[05:30] <x86i> yeah, candy is the universal translator
[05:30] <bob2> halloween here is an excuse to have fancy dree parties, that's all
[05:31] <louis_> hey how do I install a program
[05:31] <x86i> especially chewy candy. Can't get mad at someone with a mouthful ( I am aware that could be taken the wrong way, but I digress )
[05:31] <louis_> like yahoo
[05:31] <tritium> what's dree, bob2 ?
[05:31] <drcode> hi all
[05:31] <x86i> louis_: I beleive your looking for a program called GAIM
[05:31] <Tatsuya> I wont have holloween ever again now that Im moving to japan
[05:31] <bob2> tritium: hm, "dress" when my fingers fall asleep
[05:32] <tritium> heh :)
[05:32] <drcode> any one know free web housting for PHPNUKER , I Can load
[05:32] <Tatsuya> at least thier will be sakura festival
[05:32] <Waffles> Hi
[05:32] <drcode> I Mean that give php and mysql free housting ?
[05:32] <bob2> and Akihabra
[05:32] <Tatsuya> lol
[05:32] <Waffles> how do i load kxdocker?
[05:32] <x86i> What? Japanese don't need candy, or halloween. For an outsider, the fun is in playing all the games they have there
[05:33] <necator> hi guys
[05:33] <necator> i downloaded crossover office free trial and i dont know how to install this file =(
[05:33] <x86i> Watch something come out there, and then 10 years later, watch the US try to spin it off as "new cartoons"
[05:33] <necator> do i do some terminal coommand to make it run?
[05:34] <Hobbsee> necator: what type of file is it?
[05:34] <Tatsuya> lol i get them new already, like 3 days after they come out over there
[05:34] <necator> ends in .sh
[05:34] <lajuj> I can't seem to find the kernel source for 2.6.12-9-386
[05:34] <louis_>  can someone help me get my printer scanner copier working
[05:34] <necator> its the free trial download for crossover hobbsee
[05:35] <Hobbsee> necator: i realise that, but what is the file extension of the file?  is it a deb file?
[05:35] <Hobbsee> ah, i see
[05:35] <x86i> I just love how the US is acting like Pokemon and all those other crap series are 'new'
[05:35] <Antioch> What port does the xserver run on? Im trying to run x programs through ssh...
[05:35] <intelikey> Hobbsee <necator> ends in .sh
[05:36] <misfit_toy> Antioch, use ssh -Y
[05:36] <dooglus> when was kernel 2.6.12 first released?
[05:36] <dooglus> is there a kernel history document anywhere perhaps?
[05:36] <intelikey> necator try ". <file>.sh "
[05:36] <dooglus> lajuj: install package "linux-source" to get it
[05:37] <bob2> dooglus: good question, one sec
[05:37] <Antioch> misfit_toy,  thanks!
[05:37] <x86i> dooglus: http://ftp.cdut.edu.cn/pub2/linux/kernel/history/Master.html
[05:38] <dooglus> x86i: fine work sir.  how did you find that?
[05:38] <necator> says permission denied
[05:38] <x86i> dooglus: Googled "Kernel History" it was the first item.
[05:38] <hussam> i'
[05:38] <Hobbsee> necator: preface it with sudo
[05:39] <x86i> It seems to stop at 2000 though
[05:39] <necator> command not found says
[05:39] <Hobbsee> necator: you're in the right directory?
[05:39] <hussam> I'm doing dpkg-reconfigure postfix. it's asking "where should mail for root go to"?
[05:39] <hussam> what do I answer?
[05:40] <dooglus> x86i: yes, so I see :)  I'm trying to write a stroppy email to win4lin about how they've stopped supporting win4lin
[05:40] <dooglus> x86i: the 2.6.12 kernel has been available for a long time & they don't support it yet.  I was wanting to say how long it's been
[05:40] <necator> yes
[05:40] <x86i> hussam: I believe you put the alias of the email address you want root stuff to go.
[05:40] <necator> how do i run a sh file?
[05:40] <intelikey> . file.sh
[05:40] <johnw> how do you remove an application (like bind for example)
[05:40] <johnw> ?
[05:40] <Tristan9669> I auto mounted two ntfs partition, but now they show up on the desktop, how do I remove it and just keep it in "computer"?
[05:41] <x86i> dooglus: Im sure if you google it, and look through all the sites, they will have more detailed infor
[05:41] <Hobbsee> johnw: sudo apt-get remove programname
[05:41] <johnw> hobbsee: thank you
[05:41] <farruinn> Tristan9669: right-click the icons on your desktop>unmount volume
[05:41] <Antioch> misfit_toy,  do you know how I can fix this error? *WARNING* Atr: Failed to find 8-plane PseudoColor visual
[05:41] <pickett> what do you type to get your cpu temp?
[05:41] <Aven> hi :)
[05:41] <hussam> x86i: in /etc/aliases there's root:hussam, so I enter hussam?
[05:41] <misfit_toy> Antioch, no idea
[05:41] <Aven> How are we?
[05:41] <GURT> how do i make the calendar in Clock start on sunday and not monday?
[05:42] <Tristan9669> farruinn, I did but It says unable to unmount the selected volume.
[05:42] <x86i> hussam: I believe so, if not, put an email address
[05:43] <intelikey> GURT in the pereferances.  maybe right click on the clock, or look in the menu.
[05:43] <GURT> tried that
[05:43] <farruinn> Tristan9669: in your /etc/fstab does the partition have the users optin set?
[05:43] <tritium> GURT, you're right...there appears to be no way to do that.  How silly!
[05:43] <rixth> What can I use to capture .asx streams?
[05:44] <misfit_toy> rixth, streamtuner?
[05:44] <intelikey> language/time/date settings..... is where to find it.
[05:44] <rixth> misfit_toy, I forgot to say. it is a video stream
[05:44] <bob2> rixth: mplayer
[05:44] <nemik> hello
[05:45] <rixth> Waiting for the XMMS plugin to start playback of 'http://www.asxvideos.com/asx.php?id=9684'.
[05:45] <nemik> so how would i disable the 'screensaver' (going to black) on the base server install of ubuntu?
[05:45] <rixth> I get nothing, no audio, no video
[05:45] <louis_> look i need some videos
[05:45] <louis_> some stuff
[05:45] <louis_> some audio
[05:45] <tritium> GURT, now that's going to bug me to no end...
[05:45] <bob2> rixth: look at that page
[05:46] <GURT> join the club
[05:46] <GURT> :)
[05:46] <intelikey> nemik that would be in the bios settings.
[05:46] <bob2> rixth: it may be redirecting or doing javascript crap
[05:46] <Tristan9669> Does anyone know how to remove auto-mounted partition icons from the desktop?
[05:47] <tescoil> Ha, Ha.  <http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/atomic/testpix/index.html> Check out the name of the sixth photo from the top.
[05:47] <nemik> itelikely, really? the power management? i'll look into it, i thought it may have been something on the base install config. thank you!
[05:47] <louis_> where do i get audio and video
[05:47] <louis_> downloads
[05:48] <dr_willis> Hmm.. I cant even find the Language/time/date settings. :P
[05:48] <rixth> bob2, after digging through 4 redirects, I finally find the real file
[05:48] <bob2> rixth: hah
[05:49] <rixth> bob2, how do I output to a file?
[05:49] <Tristan9669> anyone??
[05:49] <bob2> rixth: mplayer -streamdump
[05:49] <intelikey> dr_willis so the language can't be changed on ubuntu ?
[05:49] <x86i> lol bob2, I thought that said 'steamydump'
[05:49] <starscalling> o: i think i cant mess with certain things like the properties of the window switcher unless they are both on the same number desktop... which kinda sux,
[05:50] <rixth> bob2, thanks!
[05:50] <dr_willis> intelikey,  No.. it can. someone said to change the calender to show Sunday as the start of the week. its in the Languages/Time/Date settings.. :P that I cant even find. I found a 'language selection' preferance item
[05:50] <rixth> Unknown option on the command line: -streamdump
[05:50] <rixth> . Is my package borked or were you kidding?
[05:51] <DShepherd> how do I check the uptime of my machine
[05:51] <DShepherd> ?
[05:51] <dabaR> DShepherd: did you try runing uptime in a terminal?
[05:51] <Pablo> uptime
[05:51] <Pablo> type uptime at cl
[05:51] <DShepherd> ah,,,makes sense
[05:51] <Pablo> :P
[05:51] <nuck> whats the command to print the version of an installed application?
[05:52] <x86i> DShepherd: Set an eggtimer on top of the machine, reset everytime it runs out, and log it.
[05:52] <bob2> rixth: dumpstream, it seems
[05:52] <bob2> nuck: dpkg -l blah
[05:52] <nuck> thanks bob2
[05:52] <intelikey> dr_willis and there is no settings in the language selection area to set output of time and date and other numbers like money ?
[05:52] <rixth> there we go, thank you
[05:53] <dr_willis> intelikey,  Language Seectuin area Where at? Looking in the System/Perferances Menu are and SYstem/Admin menus  for anything withlanguage.. only thing i found lets me select what language to use.
[05:54] <dr_willis> intelikey,  Time & Date settings Tool - dont let me change the day the week starts at. That i can see.
[05:54] <tescoil> If I ever do my own distro, I think I'll take the version names from atomic bomb tests.  v5.3 "Operation Teapot"
[05:55] <x86i> tescoil: Really? I'd do mine after infectious diseases.
[05:56] <dr_willis> I'd name mine after Porn Stars.
[05:56] <dr_willis> :P
[05:56] <tescoil> x86i, that'd be appropriate for versions of Visual Basic.
[05:56] <nekostar> nope thats not it either
[05:56] <x86i> Did they fix some of the issues with KDE?
[05:57] <DShepherd> how much space does the ubuntu default install takes up?
[05:57] <p0wermac> zero, i use the live distro :p
[05:57] <rixth> bob2, I like this once it was done:
[05:57] <rixth> everything done. Thank you for downloading a media file containing proprietary and patentend technology.
[05:57] <laszlok> x86i: which issues?
[05:58] <DShepherd> nm...I'll google
[05:58] <iiiears> should we rixth some "FLAC" - lol
[05:58] <x86i> laszlok: I remember hearing about some install problems, and lockups
[05:58] <bob2> rixth: haha
[05:58] <intelikey> DShepherd between 2 & 3 gig.   not sure exactly.    server is like 300m
[05:58] <robitaille> DShepherd,  around 2Gb, give or take
[05:58] <DShepherd> oh thanks
[05:58] <DShepherd> :)
[05:58] <bob2> streaming FLAC is pretty hardcore
[05:58] <laszlok> x86i: for KDE 3.4 or 3.5?
[05:59] <rixth> iiiears, I'm not an audiophile- so to me- lossless is pointless. I ca't tell the difference between a 160kpbs mp3 and a 320one.
[05:59] <intelikey> DShepherd server is non-GUI  you know.
[05:59] <x86i> laszlok: I'm not sure, think it was 3.4. I prefer Gnome, but I was just curious if the KDE version was ok
[05:59] <iiiears> rixth - honestly neither can i.
[05:59] <DShepherd> intelikey: yeah I have read,,,,by defualt...no desktop
[06:00] <laszlok> no the default kubuntu install is fine, its the kde 3.5 beta packages you should worry about
[06:00] <intelikey> hhehhe "no desktop"  :)      6 consoles beets one desktop any day...
[06:00] <necator> i downloaded a gdm theme just now how do i install it ?
[06:01] <x86i> laszlok: Ah, that must be what I've been hearin about
[06:01] <necator> its filename is 30846-blueswirl.tar.bz2
[06:01] <x86i> intelikey: In a gui, you can have hundres of terms :P
[06:01] <x86i> hundreds*
[06:01] <intelikey> no only 128 same as in console mode.
[06:02] <dooglus> x86i: in a console you can have hundreds of terminals too :)
[06:02] <intelikey> openvt bash
[06:02] <x86i> shh
[06:02] <x86i> leave my unsupported arguement alone
[06:02] <intelikey> lol
[06:02] <dooglus> x86i: or you can do what I do: use GNOME, but only run 1 window:  Emacs.
[06:02] <dr_willis> Hmm.. dident i see once a way to make the gnome file manager Not use the "buttons" path like interface.. and use a normal Path interface...
[06:03] <dr_willis> this little < [home] [porn] [redhead]  [cheerleader]      - type path tool is getting on my nerves. :P
[06:03] <dooglus> dr_willis: type control-l I think
[06:03] <intelikey> necator "tar -xjvf 30846-blueswirl.tar.bz2 ; cd 30846-blueswirl ; ls "   start with that and read anything in uppercase.
[06:03] <dr_willis> AHA! thats it. :P
[06:03] <dooglus> l for location
[06:03] <x86i> dr_willis: Please make a torrent. kthx.
[06:03] <dr_willis> lol - i thought there was a way. :P
[06:03] <dr_willis> x86i,  :P
[06:04] <dr_willis> even my wife can understand the idea of a path - and shes not big on computers.
[06:04] <DShepherd> trust me, I have been a windows use for almost for about 6 years...I started being interested in linux about 2 years ago. Installed ubuntu about a month ago and man....I cant believe I have been missing out on so much
[06:04] <DShepherd> sorry to be off-topic
[06:04] <iiiears> more choices for gnome is good - but buttons are okay with me
[06:04] <dooglus> dr_willis: even if you don't understand a path, how on earth does a row of buttons make it easier?
[06:04] <x86i> DShepherd: You werent missing much until Ubuntu came out :P
[06:05] <dr_willis> dooglus,  NO clue there. other then it makes it easy tojump back a few dir
[06:05] <dooglus> DShepherd: what are the biggest 3 things you were "missing out on" would you say?
[06:05] <tescoil> "GNOME was the first nuclear test in the Plowshare Program. The Plowshare Program objectives were to determine how energy produced from nuclear explosions could be used for peaceful or civilian purposes."  (!)
[06:05] <iiiears> lol - debian was moving pretty slow before knoppix and ubuntu lit a fire
[06:05] <dr_willis> the ctrl-L thing makes it mor enormal - but it dosent stay that way. :(
[06:06] <DShepherd> dooglus: the power to do so much
[06:06] <intelikey> debian isn't the only distro
[06:06] <x86i> iiiears: I know right? Everyone that I know uses debian in some form or another, and the hardcore users are up in arms about Ubuntu, and I just reply with that exact same thing
[06:06] <iiiears> nah - but package mANAGEMENT IS MILES AHEAD OF RPMS
[06:06] <Wonky> I wonder if someone could help me out.  I'm having problems with installing grub.  I'm following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto but when I try root (hd0,0) I get Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7.  But it's ext2, so what do I need to do to get grub to recognize /boot?
[06:06] <DShepherd> dooglus: for example dd, a super command,,,,, and it was already sitting there in linux
[06:07] <x86i> dd?
[06:07] <DShepherd> dooglus: while you have to buy this and do that...
[06:07] <DShepherd> x86i: man dd
[06:07] <DShepherd> dooglus: in windows
[06:07] <dooglus> DShepherd: could you give concrete examp - oh, ok.  so you use 'dd' to make .iso files from a CD?  that's one.  name 2 more please?
[06:07] <intelikey> x86i doesn't know dd .          somebody kill that user.
[06:08] <x86i> hrm
[06:08] <x86i> I've never had to use dd
[06:08] <x86i> sue me
[06:08] <x86i> :P
[06:08] <intelikey> $50m see ya in coart
[06:09] <Wonky> Any ideas?
[06:09] <x86i> Yeah, lemme just pony that right up. OH LOOK, I file for bankrupcy and move to Japan
[06:09] <dooglus> I used dd yesterday to make a 4gb blank file:   dd if=/dev/zero of=disk.img bs=1024k count=4096
[06:09] <DShepherd> dooglus: like working with GUI.....sometimes the need arises and I need too go stricly command line
[06:09] <x86i> dooglus: lol why?
[06:09] <DShepherd> dooglus: windows not that powerfull
[06:10] <intelikey> Wonky sorry i'm about grub illiterate and raid unlearned as they come.
[06:10] <DShepherd> dooglus: and 3
[06:11] <dooglus> x86i: I wanted to make an encrypyed data DVD.  the 4Gb file will be burnt to the DVD once it's full of encrypted secretnesses (where secretnesses == "/home/porn/redhead/cheerleader")
[06:11] <Wonky> Thanks for your response, intelikey.  I'll keep looking around.
[06:11] <x86i> ah
[06:11] <Arinux> hey all
[06:11] <x86i> make a torrent. kplzthx
[06:11] <Toma-> dooglus: lol
[06:11] <dr_willis> dooglus,  you fiend!
[06:12] <dr_willis> :P
[06:12] <DShepherd> dooglus: using linux have taught me more my system that windows ever did. It seemed transparent, Like I was really in control. Maybe that's the aim for windows...but linux gives you options...
[06:12] <x86i> funny... there seems to be a mismatch between /home/porn/redhead/ and /home/porn/blonde/
[06:12] <dooglus> x86i: talking of torrents, would you believe that it is more memory efficient to run bitcomet-inside-windows-inside-win4lin than it is to run azureus?
[06:13] <dooglus> that's right - it takes less memory to run the whole of windows PLUS bitcomet than it does to run azureus on its own!  :)
[06:13] <x86i> dooglus: all I know is Azureus dos's my cable modem.
[06:13] <tomaj> how do you get the archive manager to work with rar files?
[06:13] <x86i> It is horrible with packets
[06:14] <Toma-> dooglus: thats because it uses java... use the bittorrent client that comes with gnome
[06:14] <x86i> dooglus what about bitcomet using the win32 binary?
[06:14] <dooglus> I think azureus and bitcomet are the only 2 clients to work well with distributed hashtable databases
[06:14] <GigaClon> any get epsxe working on Linux?
[06:14] <Toma-> GigaClon: yep
[06:14] <dooglus> Toma-: the gnome bittorrent doesn't use dht to my knowledge, meaning it's screwed once a tracker goes down
[06:14] <iiiears> dooglus - How does Win4Lin compare to Cedega in performance?
[06:14] <x86i> I assume thats a PSX emulator
[06:14] <dooglus> iiiears: I never got cedega to work
[06:14] <DShepherd> dooglus: I still very new to linux and the things that I can do ... man...its sweet. Dont get me wrong, Linux is not for everybody, well not now, neither is windows
[06:16] <dooglus> DShepherd: so 1. useful tools are available for free, 2. the command line is powerful, 3. it's an eduction?
[06:16] <x86i> I only use windows for 3 things. Cutting edge games ( which seem less and less cutting edge these days ). Applications that only work in windows. and Viral amusement.
[06:16] <DShepherd> dooglus: pretty much
[06:17] <dooglus> DShepherd: fair enough.
[06:18] <DShepherd> dooglus:  ubuntu is that plus more :)
[06:18] <x86i> I like linux for its user security, file management, and extensive software packages
[06:18] <tescoil> x86i, I only use windows when I'm fixing the problems it created for someone else.
[06:18] <DShepherd> dooglus: the community rocks
[06:18] <iiiears> Windows is for games. - No need to put it on the wild wild web it will be infected in a fewer hours than it took to install..
[06:19] <x86i> tescoil: lol I just reformat most windows problems for people. I dont even try to troubleshoot them anymore
[06:19] <intelikey> why do i like/use linux, one word "EULA".  enough said.
[06:19] <DShepherd> x86i: lol
[06:19] <Arinux> hey what are these 386 , 586 , 686 etc
[06:19] <Alister> hello
[06:19] <x86i> Most EULA's wont hold up in court anyway
[06:19] <x86i> so
[06:20] <iiiears> x86i - No kidding reinstall from a disk image in less than 20 mins. most virus adware scans take longer.
[06:20] <x86i> Yep
[06:20] <dooglus> I just moved a file from one partition to another, then noticed that the file is still open.  I want to move it back before closing the file so I get the updates that get written when I close it.
[06:20] <dooglus> can I?
[06:20] <x86i> Norton Ghost is a wonderful produect
[06:20] <x86i> product*
[06:20] <DShepherd> x86i: so is dd :)
[06:20] <x86i> Im talking for windows
[06:20] <iiiears> x86i - norton ghost is fine. - i like Acronis a little better.
[06:21] <Toma-> ontv gnome applet is the greatest thing evar.
[06:21] <dooglus> x86i: you can get dd for windows :)
[06:21] <DShepherd> x86i: with a live cd you can
[06:21] <jlb> hi
[06:21] <x86i> Well, I like to make people buy Norton Ghost, if Im helping them. Allows me to charge more.
[06:21] <intelikey> Arinux processor archatecture   intel 80x68
[06:21] <jlb> is anyone using gdesklets?
[06:21] <nuck> anyone know a simple and easy to install ldap server for ubuntu? thanks
[06:21] <intelikey> err 86
[06:21] <Arinux> okay so intel centrino comes under which one?
[06:21] <Toma-> Arinux: 686
[06:21] <DShepherd> x86i: man....remind me not to come to you for help
[06:22] <iiiears> DSheperd - dd doesn't mange the mbr very well from what i have heard.
[06:22] <x86i> Arinux: 686
[06:22] <jlb> i'm trying to run gdesklets on separate workspaces
[06:22] <Arinux> okay so i should install kernel for i686 right
[06:22] <x86i> DShepherd: Most of these people make 70+k/year, I have no problems with charging more.
[06:22] <jlb> but the applets run on every single one and i'm trying to limit them
[06:22] <DShepherd> x86i: ok
[06:22] <jlb> to one workspace
[06:22] <tescoil> Has MS got a true 64-bit OS out yet?
[06:22] <DShepherd> tescoil: define true
[06:22] <Toma-> Arinux: yeh... it doesnt really matter whole lot between them all, its just optimised for the specific type. not much speed difference at all really
[06:22] <x86i> lol
[06:22] <jlb> does anyone know where i could find an answer?
[06:22] <intelikey> Arinux yes
[06:23] <tescoil> I'm not keeping track.
[06:23] <x86i> The os is 64bit, but most of the applications aren't
[06:23] <FR500> does insalling the i686 kernel affect performance?
[06:23] <DShepherd> FR500: it should
[06:23] <Arinux> okay and what about this new vanilla kernel?
[06:23] <jlb> hello
[06:23] <x86i> Yes, I believe it adds some of the... don't quote me, CPU features like MMX etc
[06:23] <x86i> and yes, I know MMX is basic cpu stuff
[06:24] <intelikey> Arinux any x86 will work on that thing.   it is just optimization
[06:24] <DShepherd> FR500: I dont know for sure..I have installed it myself
[06:24] <iiiears> FR500 - it may but i haven't noticed any speed increase.
[06:24] <jlb> hi i need help
[06:24] <FR500> oh cool
[06:24] <Arinux> okay because i am using the 2.12 kernel , and not good system performance
[06:24] <DShepherd> FR500: you can google though to see what enhancements you get
[06:24] <x86i> I sure know that installing 686 without SMP really does effect performance on a multi-cpu machine :P
[06:24] <intelikey> no
[06:24] <intelikey> 2.6.12
[06:24] <FR500> i hope it makes xmame run better since on m$ it flies...  crappy vid card and no drivers for me :(
[06:25] <intelikey> there is no linux 2.12  yet.
[06:25] <Arinux> did any try the new americas army version 2.5
[06:25] <x86i> Thats the problem with windows, its got all the hotchicks with the games.
[06:25] <Arinux> i mean 2.6.12
[06:25] <jlb> hi i'm trying to run gdeslets applets on seprate workspaces
[06:26] <Toma-> Arinux: if youre gonna build your own kernel, make sure you use /boot/config-<oldnumber> in the .config file
[06:26] <FR500> i think i had better performance with the vesa driver than dri drivers once...
[06:26] <DShepherd> x86i: thats a problem :)
[06:26] <Arinux> ya this is my first time lets see how it comes up
[06:27] <Toma-> Arinux: its beter to keep away from building your own kernel. usually kills your system or runs slower
[06:27] <x86i> unless you know what your doing
[06:27] <nekostar> ninie
[06:28] <Arinux> well i think linux is the best hack for a system , so let me try getting in and explore
[06:28] <Antioch> What port does the xserver run on?
[06:28] <morgs^^> what is libwxgtk2.4?   dvd styler wants it , but i installed a newer version an synaptics says you have broken files ... what is this file ?
[06:28] <iiiears> built my own kernel once to make it smaller faster better. - Had to back it up to a DVD - lol
[06:28] <Arinux> lol
[06:28] <Arinux> well try try and u will succed
[06:29] <x86i> try try and you will kernel panic
[06:29] <Arinux> wola here we go again
[06:29] <Toma-> morgs^^: try sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.4-1
[06:29] <x86i> ?
[06:29] <Arinux> right now i am downloading the files needed to make xconfig
[06:30] <rellik> is it safe to set the super-user reserved space to 0% when making an ext3 fs?
[06:30] <tescoil> Karl Marx on Microsoft:  "In a society founded on poverty the poorest products have the fatal prerogative of being used by the greatest number."
[06:31] <intelikey> safe... yeah.   it's not a security risk if that is what you mean.
[06:31] <morgs^^> toma , that says ::: dvdstyler: Depends: libwxgtk2.4 (>= 2.4.3.1)
[06:31] <Toma-> interesting..
[06:31] <Neophite> Why can't the super user make a mounted fat32 part writable by other users on the system?
[06:32] <morgs^^> also 2.4-1 says it is the current version
[06:32] <Neophite> (As su I can write to the partition, but I can't make it so my normal user name can write to it.)
[06:33] <intelikey> Neophite use umask=0 in the mount command.
[06:33] <Toma-> morgs^^: is dvd styler an ubntu package?
[06:33] <Toma-> or a deb?
[06:33] <Neophite> intelikey, Thanks mate.
[06:33] <intelikey> np
[06:33] <morgs^^> no its a debian package
[06:33] <Toma-> morgs^^: thats the problem.
[06:34] <morgs^^> most debian ones i install are fine ...
[06:34] <x86i> whats debian?
[06:34] <Toma-> some have dependencies that are related to debian, where as ubuntu have some slightly different package names
[06:35] <Toma-> in which case, it may be better to get the rpm, and use alien to convert it
[06:35] <rellik> what's the purpose of the "lost+found" dir on a new partition?  can I delete it?
[06:36] <Neophite> intelikey, Would "/dev/sda2       /Media          vfat    defaults, umask=0        0       0" be what you mean?
[06:36] <Neophite> (That's the fstab entry for the part.)
[06:37] <morgs^^> funny dvdstyler says its broken but it still funs
[06:37] <morgs^^> funs
[06:38] <morgs^^> Runs
[06:38] <Toma-> 3rd time lucky :D
[06:38] <Toma-> morgs^^: thats the package name for ya. its all the same, just named differently :(
[06:40] <Arinux> hey how do we run .run ext files
[06:40] <rmulliga> Is ubuntulinux.org slow for anyone else?
[06:40] <dr_willis> sh foo.run
[06:40] <Arinux> okay
[06:40] <rain`> ARINUX: IF YOU SACRIFICE A COW TO TUX, THEN YOU CAN
[06:40] <Arinux> rain: what dows that mean
[06:40] <Arinux> does*
[06:41] <bob2> rmulliga: yeah
[06:41] <bob2> Arinux: what is it?
[06:41] <intelikey> Neophite no space between defaults,umask=0      yes.
[06:42] <Arinux> does any one know how to remove that sync clock with ubuntu server  from startup
[06:42] <intelikey> Neophite and if you wanted to make it user mountable add ,users  to that string.
[06:42] <bob2> Arinux: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*ntp*
[06:43] <morgs^^> ;]   thanks man
[06:43] <nemik> so i'm behind a a router and want to SSH into my other ubuntu computer, how can see what IP it is?
[06:43] <nemik> how about external?
[06:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone know how to tweak the color of the clearlooks theme?  i want to make it white insntead of grey.
[06:44] <Arinux> bob: its says no such file or directory
[06:44] <bob2> Arinux: rcS, not rc2, my mistake
[06:44] <navyn> hey can someone help me?  Whenever I try to log into GNOME i get a message that says $HOME/.dmrc has incorrect permissions and is being ignored.  I can only get in to failsafe. :(
[06:44] <bob2> navyn: what's the full error?
[06:44] <tritium> nice job, GURT
[06:44] <Arinux> so from start up that clock thing is removed right
[06:45] <x86i> nemik: www.whatismyip.com
[06:45] <bob2> Arinux: it will not attempt to sync to an ntp time server on boot, yes
[06:45] <navyn> It says that there should be a home/navyn, but it does not exist
[06:45] <x86i> or if its local, type ifconfig in the console of the ubuntu box
[06:45] <Arinux> cool, one more thing , at start up it takes a lot for configuring network interface
[06:45] <bob2> navyn: does it exist?
[06:46] <navyn> it did until i rebooted
[06:46] <bob2> Arinux: if you're not going to be plugged into ethernet, tell it that
[06:46] <bob2> Arinux: remove unneeded auto lines from /etc/network/interfaces
[06:46] <Arinux> Bob:any solution for that bob, how?
[06:46] <navyn> It also says Files should be owned by user something about having 644 permissiosn
[06:46] <Neophite> intelikey, Since it's in the fstab, it's mounted on startup yeah?
[06:46] <Arinux> bob:like?
[06:46] <bob2> Arinux: like what?
[06:47] <guidan_> how do you install the realmedia codecs in ubuntu?
[06:47] <thirso> whats that program to organize gnomes menu?
[06:47] <Arinux> bob: what lines to remove? i am new to this
[06:47] <bob2> guidan_: /msg ubotu w32codecs
[06:47] <nemik> how would i view my IP? anything like ipconfig in windows?
[06:47] <bob2> Arinux: the ones beginning with auto
[06:47] <bob2> nemik: ip a
[06:47] <nemik> thanks bob
[06:47] <x86i> nemik: ifconfig works too
[06:47] <forrest> ?
[06:47] <forrest> hello everyone
[06:47] <navyn> i'll logout and login and get the xsessions error written down.  i'll be right back
[06:48] <guidan_> bob2 -the bot didn't reply
[06:48] <bob2> !+w32codecs
[06:48] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).  For 64-bit read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[06:49] <Arinux> should i delete the lines starting with auto
[06:49] <nemik> thanks bob2 and x86i but i'm behind a router and it is just showing the internal IP's, how can i access it from remotely?
[06:49] <bob2> Arinux: delete the ones yo udon't want, yes
[06:49] <bob2> Arinux: do not remove lo
[06:49] <bob2> nemik: 16:45:10           x86i |  nemik: www.whatismyip.com
[06:49] <nemik> i'm in root
[06:49] <nemik> perhaps i can curl it though...
[06:49] <forrest> when i tried to compile gnocky, i get an error:"checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[06:50] <forrest> could anybody tell me what i should do?
[06:50] <forrest> gcc has been installed
[06:50] <tritium> forrest, have you installed "build-essential"?
[06:50] <bob2> forrest: do you mean "gnokki"?
[06:50] <dewd> what's the name of the executable of the program that's used to edit the applications menu?
[06:51] <misfit_toy> dewd, there is none
[06:51] <anarchyistasty> hey.. two questions .. 1- what's a quick way to tell if i already have zlib, and 2 - if i'm installing system libraries like zlib, should i be su or just any user?
[06:51] <Arinux> okay let me try on next rebbot thanks a lot bob
[06:51] <bob2> anarchyistasty: what are you trying to do?
[06:51] <anarchyistasty> well, get sshd running
[06:51] <bob2> Arinux: you'll want to show it to us first, I'd think...
[06:51] <bob2> anarchyistasty: uh, install the openssh-server package
[06:51] <anarchyistasty> oo sounds fun
[06:51] <forrest> gnokii and gnocky seems like in one family
[06:52] <dewd> misfit_toy, sure there is. I've used it but its name is quite forgettable
[06:52] <bob2> anarchyistasty: or the ssh one
[06:52] <anarchyistasty> yeah i'm doing ssh
[06:52] <Neophite> intelikey, Thanks for the info man. I appreciate it.
[06:52] <anarchyistasty> it requires zlib though
[06:52] <varsedangger> hey i want to write a shell script with a command in it that requires sudo, but i can't figure out how to write it
[06:52] <Arinux> bob: show u what?
[06:52] <forrest> build essential? what's that?
[06:52] <anarchyistasty> *shrug* i dont know if i have it
[06:52] <bob2> faryour /etc/network/interfaces
[06:52] <misfit_toy> dewd, you mean to edit the gnome menus?
[06:52] <bob2> anarchyistasty: er, you know your package management tools take care of that for you, right?
[06:52] <Arinux> bob: how do i send it to u?
[06:53] <dewd> misfit_toy, maybe? is there one?
[06:53] <bob2> anarchyistasty: sudo apt-get install openssh-server = download and install ssh server and depdencies, start ssh
[06:53] <tritium> forrest, "apt-cache show build-essential" to find out
[06:53] <forrest> build-essential? what's that?
[06:53] <anarchyistasty> thank you
[06:53] <bob2> Arinux: #flood or pastebin.ca
[06:53] <forrest> ok
[06:53] <anarchyistasty> i have no idea how to use my mgmt tools
[06:53] <Tristan9669> does anyone know how to remove auto mounted partition(ntfs) shortcuts from the desktop??
[06:53] <anarchyistasty> but i'll do that
[06:53] <bob2> anarchyistasty: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:54] <Arinux> bob: didn't get u?
[06:54] <anarchyistasty> ok cool (my ssh server is already started, = sweet)
[06:54] <forrest> tritium, it's ok now, thank you very much!!
[06:54] <anarchyistasty> i guess linux isnt that hard
[06:54] <tritium> forrest, :)
[06:55] <Tristan9669> can someone help me?
[06:55] <bob2> Arinux: ?
[06:55] <bob2> Arinux: paste it to #flood or www.pastebin.ca
[06:55] <forrest> oh no, tritium, i got another error: configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0, glib-2.0 >= 2.0.0, gthread-2.0 >= 2.0.0, libglade-2.0 >= 2.0, gnokii >= 0.5.7) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[06:55] <aphesz> Tristan9669: right click delete ?
[06:55] <forrest> :(
[06:55] <misfit_toy> dewd, for Fedora, I don't know
[06:55] <forrest> sorry i'm really a newbie
[06:56] <tritium> forrest, looks like you need to install some dev libraries
[06:56] <dewd> misfit_toy, /usr/bin/smeg
[06:56] <anarchyistasty> hey besides echo'ing to /dev/console, are there other ways to directly message users logged into the same system as you?
[06:56] <Tristan9669> nope doesnt work, its say unable to umount, I dont want to unmount, I just want to remove the icons from the desktop
[06:56] <bob2> anarchyistasty: write
[06:56] <misfit_toy> dewd, oh yeah SMEG
[06:56] <bob2> anarchyistasty: talk
[06:56] <misfit_toy> lol
[06:56] <aphesz> anarchyistasty: wall <msg>
[06:56] <misfit_toy> dewd, so smeg isn't working?
[06:57] <forrest> tritium, dev libraries? what will the names be?
[06:57] <tritium> forrest, what are you compiling?
[06:57] <dewd> misfit_toy, a friend wanted to use it but I couldn't remember its name. thanks
[06:57] <forrest> gnocky
[06:57] <bob2> it's not in ubuntu
[06:57] <tritium> forrest, do you mena gnokii?
[06:58] <tritium> s/mena/mean
[06:58] <poningru> anyone know where to get open cd documentation?
[06:58] <bob2> tritium: it appears to be a wrapper for it, since it requires gnokki
[06:58] <forrest> i guess gnokii & gnocky is in one family
[06:58] <tritium> bob2, ah
[06:58] <bob2> it appears to be dead, tho
[06:58] <navyn> bob2, i'm back with more info this time
[06:58] <bob2> upstream
[06:58] <bob2> or I'd package it
[06:58] <Arinux> which is the best download manager and accelerator with all browser integration
[06:59] <tritium> bob2, ok, thanks
[06:59] <bob2> ugh
[06:59] <navyn> home directory is listed as /home/navyn, but it does not appear to exist
[06:59] <bob2> haha
[06:59] <rain`> Arinux: firefox
[06:59] <forrest> tritium, i got this line: gnocky, gnokii frontend written in GTK2 by Igor Popik
[06:59] <navyn> File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions
[06:59] <Arinux> no rain i am talking about a dl manager
[07:00] <forrest> maybe i shouldn't have tried to install gnocky?
[07:00] <tritium> forrest, I see.  Well, you can try, but you'll need to install some development libraries to do so
[07:00] <poningru>   Arinux I am using download X
[07:00] <Arinux> like we have dap in windows !
[07:00] <Arinux> poningru: is it good
[07:00] <navyn> $HOME/.dmrc has incorrect file permissions and is being ignored
[07:01] <bob2> forrest: you need to: sudo aptitude install libgtk2.0-dev libglib2.0-dev libglade2.0-dev libgnokii2-dev
[07:01] <bob2> navyn: dude
[07:01] <bob2> navyn: think about this
[07:01] <bob2> Arinux: just use firefox' one
[07:01] <poningru> Arinux: yeah I guess so
[07:01] <bob2> I don't see the attraction of trying to DOS a server you're downloading from
[07:01] <poningru> hehe
[07:02] <Arinux> Bob: but i don't have accelerate options plus not that good resume feature
[07:02] <bob2> "accelerate options"?
[07:02] <bob2> the resume stuff is shit, I agree
[07:02] <Arinux> like we used to have in DAP
[07:02] <navyn> then it says under the .xsession errors, that no profile for user navyn found.  unable to create ~./gnome2 directory
[07:03] <poningru> Arinux: get the download manager extension
[07:03] <Arinux> means?
[07:03] <poningru> just go to addons.mozilla.org
[07:03] <micskyvitch> /nick mickskyvitch
[07:03] <navyn> i've been running this box for the past week under navyn
[07:03] <Arinux> okay then
[07:03] <poningru> and search for download manager
[07:04] <morgs^^> is there a default peerguardian firewall type package in abuntu ?
[07:04] <Arinux> k
[07:04] <Adamski-> hi..i have already FC 4 which full of bugs installed..how do we replace it with ubuntu without needed to reformat HDD ? i have only one Ubuntu Disk from local magazine ? is it full version  ?
[07:04] <wickedpuppy> morgs^^, tried firestarter ?
[07:04] <wickedpuppy> Adamski-, ubuntu comes with 1 cd only
[07:04] <bob2> Adamski-: what do you mean "without needed to reformat HDD"?
[07:05] <poningru> http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?s=8fea706ec72ffb1c9a45366857afdc6c&showtopic=35&hl=download+manager
[07:05] <morgs^^> wickedpuppy,   no     thankyou :))
[07:06] <poningru> Arinux: that link was for you
[07:06] <iiiears> Adamski - Ubuntu has 17,000 applications available to install from internet repositories  just point and click.
[07:06] <rain`> morgs^^: whats wrong with firestarter? there is also shorewall, guarddog...etc
[07:07] <gregf> hi all - ive recently upgraded from hoary to breezy and ive notice in /root/dbootstrap_setting, SUITE="hoary" - Is that anything to worry about?
[07:08] <morgs^^> rain`... nothing ... im new to linux thats all ;}
[07:08] <rain`> sudo ln -s /dev/hda1 /dev/null
[07:09] <iamsthitha> hey
[07:09] <iamsthitha> what's the file where th startup programs are put?
[07:10] <tritium> do you mean the initscripts, iamsthitha ?
[07:10] <iamsthitha> no
[07:10] <iamsthitha> I mean
[07:10] <iamsthitha> when X starts
[07:10] <iamsthitha> and logs in
[07:10] <poningru> just go to system->preference-> and under session
[07:11] <iamsthitha> ah
[07:11] <iamsthitha> thanks
[07:11] <tritium> iamsthitha, you like that Enter key?
[07:11] <iamsthitha> l
[07:11] <iamsthitha> o
[07:11] <iamsthitha> v
[07:11] <iamsthitha> e
[07:11] <iamsthitha> i
[07:11] <iamsthitha> t
[07:11] <poningru> dude
[07:11] <iamsthitha> :P
[07:11] <iamsthitha> dah
[07:11] <iamsthitha> I was kidding
[07:11] <yasser> !sources
[07:11] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:12] <Myrtti> is the problem only at my end of the cable or is counter.li.org down?
[07:12] <rain`> mv /dev/iamsthitha /dev/null
[07:12] <iamsthitha> :\
[07:12] <jron`> does ubuntu keep a web db to search packages like gentoo has at packages.gentoo.org?
[07:12] <tritium> packages.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <jron`> heh
[07:13] <jron`> tks
[07:13] <iamsthitha> hey...
[07:13] <iamsthitha> can I ask in here about composite managers?
[07:13] <iamsthitha> is there any nice one for gnome?
[07:13] <poningru> composit manager?
[07:13] <iamsthitha> yea.. like transparency n stuff
[07:14] <rain`> composite managers are laggy, and have memory leaks
[07:14] <iamsthitha> rain`, thank you.. that was.. very helpful
[07:14] <rain`> NO PROBLEMO
[07:14] <rain`> mv /dev/composite /dev/null
[07:14] <iamsthitha> :\
[07:14] <iamsthitha> so...
[07:15] <Parisi> hmm
[07:15] <iamsthitha> anyone else know about composite managers?
[07:15] <Arinux> lol
[07:15] <poningru> iamsthitha: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75527
[07:15] <Parisi> Who here prefers KDE over Gnome?
[07:16] <iamsthitha> poningru, thanks
[07:16] <iamsthitha> wait.
[07:16] <iamsthitha> I've been thru that already :)
[07:16] <dooglus> Parisi: the people who prefer KDE over Gnome would be in #kubuntu I guess...
[07:16] <Parisi> Ah, good point.
[07:16] <poningru> hehe
[07:16] <Parisi> I was just looking for opinions i guess.
[07:17] <dooglus> who here prefers redhat over ubuntu?
[07:17] <rain`> parisi: I started with KDE but moved to gnome, kde seems bloated to me
[07:17] <iamsthitha> me me me me!
[07:17] <Parisi> Err, def not me.
[07:17] <iamsthitha> no...
[07:17] <iamsthitha> kde is bloated
[07:17] <Parisi> rain` I like gnome other then the fact that i find it to run slugish.
[07:18] <Parisi> I find kde the closest to Windows.
[07:18] <Parisi> Not that its a really good thing.
[07:18] <rain`> Parisi: linux is to get away from windows!
[07:18] <iamsthitha> KDE is less sluggish than gnome?
[07:18] <Parisi> gnome is more of its own thing.
[07:18] <dooglus> KDE and GNOME are both pretty sluggish as far as I can see
[07:19] <Parisi> iamsthitha based on my past experiences, yes, kde did run smoother, more responsive.
[07:19] <Parisi> Specially when i use custom themes for gnome.
[07:19] <dooglus> xfce, fluxbox, ratpoison and so on are faster, but less featuresome
[07:19] <iamsthitha> yumm.. xfce
[07:19] <Parisi> I just cant stick with the default gnome ubuntu theme.
[07:20] <LeeJunFan> linux isn't necesarilly to get away from being windows as much as it is about choice. And when it comes to window-managers you can choose to be more or less windowslike. L)
[07:20] <iamsthitha> and you can choose to have fady windows with shadows and make them see through
[07:20] <iamsthitha> weee!
[07:21] <Parisi> I guess it would not be much of an issue if i had a fairly fast PC, but thats not really my case, its a p4 1.7 with 256 ram and a geforce 2 mx
[07:21] <bungle> erk unless my kids are causing my puter to half suspend ... often it can't ever restart the monitor
[07:21] <LeeJunFan> iamsthitha: yep, and have your desktop be slow and feature rich or lighweight and barely more than a xterm :)
[07:21] <Parisi> So gnome does choke a little on it.
[07:21] <iamsthitha> anyway.. you guys in here have fun.. I go jump around with my translucent windows
[07:22] <rellik> how do I get rid of a defunct process?  kill and kill -9 return but the process is still there
[07:22] <dooglus> rellik: I don't think you can
[07:23] <rellik> dooglus, have to reboot?
[07:23] <dooglus> rellik: or just ignore it...
[07:23] <dooglus> rellik: I might be wrong.  if anyone wants to correct me, please do!
[07:23] <Arinux> in my device manager it says the processor and vendor are unknown how can i fix this problem
[07:24] <fL4k_m0nKEy> Could someone tell me how to get rar files extracted on breezy? :o
[07:24] <poningru> fL4k_m0nKEy: tar
[07:24] <poningru> err
[07:24] <tritium> !rar
[07:24] <ubotu> it has been said that rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[07:24] <bungle> unrar :P
[07:25] <fL4k_m0nKEy> that does not work :|
[07:26] <fL4k_m0nKEy> If i try to install package "rar" it says that it does not excist :P
[07:26] <Arinux> dooglus: whats xfce
[07:27] <tritium> fL4k_m0nKEy, read the wiki page
[07:27] <shawarma> rellik: Kill its parent process.
[07:27] <fL4k_m0nKEy> i read it ffs
[07:28] <tritium> ffs?  don't be rude...
[07:28] <fL4k_m0nKEy> I would not be asking here if a guide on web would help me with this :L
[07:30] <forrest> oh god, i still cannot make gnocky work :(
[07:30] <tritium> forrest, did you install the necessary libraries?
[07:30] <forrest> i installed libgtk2.0-dev libglib2.0-dev libglade2.0-dev libgnokii2-dev
[07:30] <LeeJunFan> fL4k_m0nKEy: apt-get install unrar
[07:30] <Parisi> fL4k_m0nKEy Go to the winrar site and get the linux file, simple.
[07:30] <fL4k_m0nKEy> i have installed it
[07:30] <fL4k_m0nKEy> :L
[07:30] <fL4k_m0nKEy> goddamn
[07:30] <Parisi> fL4k_m0nKEy You will have the to find the path for it then
[07:31] <Adamski-> hi..i have already FC 4 which full of bugs installed..how do we replace it with ubuntu without needed to reformat HDD ? i have only one Ubuntu Disk from local magazine ? is it full version  ?
[07:31] <fL4k_m0nKEy> oh really? :O
[07:31] <Adamski-> is there any extra ubuntu app CD ?
[07:31] <fL4k_m0nKEy> blah, this sucks :L
[07:31] <poningru> so anyone know about the opencd?
[07:31] <Parisi> Adamski- Yes, 1 disc.
[07:31] <poningru> I need some docs
[07:31] <Parisi> Adamski- Get rid of that Redhat, you will never go back.
[07:31] <sizzam> !ubotu ban fl4k_m0nKEy!
[07:31] <ubotu> sizzam: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:32] <Parisi> Adamski- FC is indeed bloated, unstable and bleeding edge.
[07:32] <tescoil> eh?  This is the first linux distro I've had, um, in a decade or so, that didn't have a c compiler installed by default.
[07:33] <poningru> who here is from canonical?
[07:33] <lajuj> if I download a windows .exe driver file, how can I unzip it?
[07:33] <shawarma> lajuj: Maybe unzip
[07:34] <Parisi> lajuj Ah what?
[07:34] <lajuj> well
[07:34] <lajuj> I am trying to get broadband to work
[07:34] <tescoil> "configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables." ?
[07:35] <lajuj> so I am downloading the drivers and then ndiswrapper them
[07:35] <tritium> tescoil, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[07:35] <forrest> hey tritium, good news: ./configure works now
[07:35] <tritium> forrest, good
[07:35] <forrest> but i cannot complete make, i got an error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lbluetooth
[07:36] <Parisi> lajuj http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[07:36] <Adamski-> where we can get more application for ubuntu please ?
[07:37] <poningru> Adamski-: synaptic
[07:37] <gleesond> when I try to add a printer in cups it asks me for a username and password but I never set one? what should I do?
[07:37] <Madpilot> Adamski-: there's 16,000 packages in the repos - have a look in Synaptic
[07:38] <Madpilot> Adamski-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:39] <glyn> I have 250 MB of unpartitioned space which is too small to partition does anyone know how I can integrate this space onto my ubuntu drive?
[07:40] <jeavislap> hello
[07:40] <poningru> glyn: just mount it
[07:40] <poningru> !mount
[07:40] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[07:40] <jeavislap>  I want to install QT anybody can help me
[07:40] <tescoil> tritium, thanks.  I don't know if that worked yet, but it installed a bunch of stuff I expected to have already.
[07:40] <Tomcat_> poningru: If it's unpartitioned, it's very likely that it doesn't have an FS :)
[07:40] <poningru> oh doh
[07:41] <poningru> missed that detail
[07:41] <tritium> no problem, tescoil.  Try again now.
[07:41] <poningru> glyn: partition it using something like gparted
[07:41] <poningru> or qtparted
[07:42] <Adamski-> thanks
[07:42] <Adamski-> one last question...how does ubuntu handling hardware : gforce or ati radeon, via soundcard and usb device (flash disk, etc)
[07:42] <poningru> wtf
[07:42] <poningru> Adamski-: the nvidia cards are def better
[07:42] <gleesond> oh cups admin is disabled
[07:42] <poningru> Adamski-: usb devices are done better
[07:42] <poningru> err
[07:42] <Madpilot> Adamski-: sound and USB should just work; vid cards need drivers, but they're all available
[07:43] <poningru> yeah just work
[07:43] <gleesond> I can't seem to make a uri for my printer though... can anyone help?
[07:43] <tescoil> That got me significantly farther along, tritium.
[07:43] <tritium> good, tescoil
[07:44] <Adamski-> i think im ready leave fedora core 4 behind....
[07:44] <jeavislap> hello
[07:44] <jeavislap> somebody use Qt
[07:44] <poningru> jeavislap: what do you mean qt?
[07:44] <poningru> as in KDE?
[07:44] <poningru> or just the libs?
[07:46] <nemik> does ssh need to be configured or anything to log in? the 22 port works ok and asks for login but root and its pass won't work...
[07:47] <poningru> is there someone from canonical here?
[07:47] <Myrtti> root :-/
[07:47] <Myrtti> !root
[07:47] <ubotu> methinks root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:47] <Severian> nemik, there is no root login on a normal Ubuntu setup
[07:47] <jeavislap> poningru: Qt
[07:48] <jeavislap> poningru: gui for c++
[07:48] <nemik> severian, i did sudo passwd root and defined a root with which i'm logged in now
[07:48] <glyn> 255MB LOWMEM available. found SMP MP-table at 000f9bf0 would 000f9bf0 be the drive letter/number?
[07:48] <nemik> i'm using the base install
[07:48] <glyn> if not how do I find the drive letter/number using dmesg|less?
[07:48] <forrest> oh, such a pain, i can find this line: checking PACKAGE_LIBS... -pthread -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgthread-2.0 -lglade-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lxml2 -lz -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangocairo-1.0 -lfontconfig -lXinerama -lXi -lXrandr -lXext -lXcursor -lXfixes -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lXrender -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0 -lgnokii -lbluetooth -lXpm -lX11
[07:48] <Severian> jeavislap, What do you want qt for?  That will clear up how to answer your question.
[07:49] <aphesz> nemik: even if u changed the root passwd, ubuntu configured sshd NOT to accept direct root logins
[07:49] <forrest> there wasn't any error when checking -lbluetooth, but it stopped when i try to make
[07:49] <glyn> can someone help me mount 255mb of unpartitioned space?  the wiki's instructions have no explanation
[07:49] <nemik> aphesz, how can change that? in etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[07:50] <aphesz> nemik: yes but that will definately defeat the purpose of having a secure configurations now would it :)
[07:50] <jeavislap> Severian: Do you know Qt?
[07:50] <DeFi> depends on how you define security
[07:51] <Severian> jeavislap, I wrote a couple of test programs, but I am no expert.
[07:51] <Severian> jeavislap, I use several qt based apps, even on Ubuntu.
[07:51] <nemik> aphesz, i did make another username during the install, a non-root one but that isn't working either
[07:51] <jeavislap> Severian: How I can install Qt in Ubuntu
[07:52] <aphesz> nemik: any chances that u forgot the password?
[07:52] <glyn> can someone help me mount 255mb of unpartitioned space?  the wiki's instructions have no explanation
[07:52] <nemik> no, because i tried to logout and login with that and it worked
[07:52] <glyn> been working with Ubuntu all day..could really use some help so I could get this over with please
[07:52] <aphesz> nemik: then what was it that doest work? su ?
[07:52] <aphesz> *doesnt
[07:53] <NoUse> glyn install gparted, thats a nice graphical tool to do what you want
[07:53] <Severian> jeavislap, There are a number of pieces to qt.  If you would kindly consider answering my question, I'll try to tell you how to procede.
[07:53] <nemik> aphesz, logging in remotely to the box from putty in windows doesn't work
[07:53] <glyn> NoUse:For some reason whenever I try to download something in the browser, no window pops up and it doesn't get downloaded
[07:54] <jeavislap> Severian: ok how I procede
[07:54] <Slarti2> nemik : I take it you can access X?
[07:54] <NoUse> glyn you don't need a browser to get gparted, use synaptic
[07:54] <nemik> slarti2...not sure what that is...
[07:54] <glyn> NoUse:K thanks
[07:54] <Slarti2> nemik, Gnome desktop
[07:55] <aphesz> nemik: u can connect via putty but u cant login ?
[07:55] <Severian> jeavislap, tell me what you want to use qt for.  Is there some program you want to run, or do you want to develop an application, or what?
[07:55] <nemik> aphesz, exactly
[07:55] <nemik> slarti, i'm using the base install
[07:55] <Arinux> here where can i find xmms add ons
[07:56] <aphesz> nemik: try changing the password at the box itself then try loggin via putty again
[07:56] <nemik> aphesz, i'll try it
[07:56] <nemik> thank you for the help
[07:56] <jeavislap> Severian; develop
[07:56] <Slarti2> was about to say, you have to assign a password to root with the base install
[07:56] <aphesz> welcome
[07:56] <booger> I need help
[07:57] <jeavislap> booger; to
[07:57] <Slarti2> easiest way to set the password is via the system>administration>users&groups prog
[07:57] <booger> I am having trouble with sound
[07:57] <jeavislap> booger; what do you need
[07:57] <Slarti2> select root, properties and put in the new password at the box
[07:57] <booger> everything is working except gxine
[07:58] <booger> and totem
[07:58] <aphesz> Slarti2: actually, the easiest way is via the console.. ;)
[07:58] <glyn> does it matter if I make this small space a primary partition or extended partition?  what are the differences?
[07:58] <DeFi> Slarti2: that wont work w/o a display manager... therefore passwd is the easiest
[07:58] <Slarti2> aphesz, is for people who are used to using the console
[07:58] <Severian> jeavislap, Open Synaptic Package Manager  Search for the name  qt3-dev-tools,  Mark it and install.  It will have a bunch of dependencies, but should get you most of what you want.  You will need to install a compiler, too, if you have not done so.  Ubuntu does not install a compiler by default.
[07:58] <nemik> aphesz, i just keep getting access denied, must be something in the config....
[07:58] <nemik> right?
[07:58] <Slarti2> thought he used the base install
[07:58] <aphesz> Slarti2:  that's the whole point of learning linux.. ;)
[07:59] <Slarti2> it's not the point of ubuntu
[07:59] <nemik> yes!
[07:59] <nemik> i like it a lot
[07:59] <DeFi> base install = no X last time I did it
[07:59] <aphesz> nemik: you could check it if you think that could be the problem :D
[07:59] <booger> any one have any idea about fixing the sound
[07:59] <nemik> its like a base, but with apt-get. really cool
[07:59] <Severian> glyn, the main thing is that you can only have 4 primary partitions.  One of those can be used to contain extended partitions.
[07:59] <Slarti2> if I wanted a console based linux I'd use debian or slack
[07:59] <Sirrush> Hey everyone
[07:59] <booger> hello
[07:59] <jeavislap> Severian; Ok I installed qt3-dev-tools
[08:00] <aphesz> Slarti2: Ubuntu IS based on debian :)
[08:00] <Slarti2> yes, and mandrake is based on redhat
[08:00] <DeFi> debian and slackware will run KDE / gnome just greeat too
[08:00] <Slarti2> whats your point?
[08:00] <Severian> jeavislap, have you installed your c++ compiler?  qt is C++ based.
[08:00] <jeavislap> Severian; g++
[08:01] <aphesz> you started arguing with all the X thingy Slarti2 ;)
[08:01] <nemik> aphesz, problem is i am behind a VOIP router and on a wifi access-point (well router with DHCP turned off) connected to the VOIP router
[08:01] <Slarti2> aphesz, :-P
[08:01] <Severian> jeavislap, that will do.  You should be set to go.
[08:01] <booger> Severian do you have any fixes for sound
[08:01] <aphesz> nemik: that shouldnt be a problem coz u can connect to the box
[08:01] <nemik> but i'm getting a request to log in, so that means it is good, no? just don't know why none of the names are working...
[08:01] <nemik> ok, that's what i thought
[08:01] <glyn> now that I got the space partitioned how am I able to use it to store stuff on from ubuntu?
[08:01] <jeavislap> Severian: g++ 3.3.5
[08:02] <Slarti2> ubuntu is solely responsible for my wife dropping windows and it wasn't down to it's friendly console
[08:02] <aphesz> the problem is, sshd refuses to accept your login. which is weird
[08:02] <glyn> have to mount it?
[08:02] <booger> any help?
[08:02] <Severian> jeavislap, if it were me, I would do a search in Synaptic by name for qt and add anything that looked interesting.
[08:02] <jeavislap> Severian: but I compile he qt hello world and my pc dont recognize qt
[08:02] <aphesz> Slarti2: what ever makes you & your wife happy :)
[08:02] <jeavislap> Severian, I do that
[08:02] <jeavislap> Severian, I did that
[08:03] <booger> hello?
[08:03] <nemik> aphesz, i'll pkill sshd and play with its config then start it again. but at least i know it is working
[08:03] <Severian> booger, what kind of sound problem do you have.  Hoary was not good at synchronizing sound and video, but Breezy has been great for me.
[08:03] <nemik> i think it is just down to config now, thank you very much for your help though!
[08:03] <Slarti2> infact they should use that on their website "so friendly even my wife uses it"
[08:03] <Severian> jeavislap, Then I think you are ready.  Is there a problem?
[08:04] <DeFi> nemik just /etc/init.d/sshd stop
[08:04] <DeFi> cleaner :)
[08:04] <glyn> how come when I try to mount the space I just made with gparted it says it doesn't exist?
[08:04] <nemik> oh ok, i was gonna pkill sshd but a good idea is a good idea ;)
[08:04] <booger> your right breezy is great only having problem with totem and gxine
[08:04] <nemik> thanks defi!
[08:04] <aftertaf> glyn:  you need to have a mount point too.
[08:04] <aftertaf> !tell glyn about mount
[08:04] <DeFi> their bunch of start / stop /restart scripts in /etc/init.d
[08:04] <jeavislap> Severian; check this
[08:04] <DeFi> one for every daemon pretty much
[08:04] <glyn> ~$ sudo mount /dev/hda3 /home/glyn/Extended\ HD/ mount: special device /dev/hda3 does not exist
[08:05] <Severian> booger, I installed the totem-xine package, as suggested on the RestrictedFormats wiki page.  After that, totem has done fine for me.
[08:05] <aftertaf> glyn:  then hda3, does it exist? and you're not saying which fstype it is.
[08:05] <johnw> HELP!!!... I have a folder /chroot/var:
[08:06] <johnw> ls -ld /chroot/var
[08:06] <johnw> drwxrwxrwx  3 root  root  4096 2005-11-01 00:15 var
[08:06] <johnw> -----------------------------------------------
[08:06] <johnw> How can I change the owner?  I tried "sudo chmod myuser /chroot/var" but it says I don't have permission!
[08:06] <jeavislap> Severian; my g++ dont recognize Qt
[08:06] <booger> severian, so you didnt do it from apt get
[08:06] <tritium> johnw, don't paste
[08:06] <DeFi> sudo chown user /dir/file
[08:06] <aphesz> glyn: could you do a "fdisk -l" and check if you've got the correct device name?
[08:06] <johnw> i meant chown I think
[08:06] <jeavislap> Severian; Can I send you the program Its a simple hello world
[08:06] <nemik> aphesz, ok i was wrong....i stopped it, its not in ps -A and i got the login again...so i guess i was SSHing into something else...but what?
[08:06] <johnw> yeah, I do sudo chown
[08:06] <Severian> booger, I used synaptic, which is just a front end to apt-get.
[08:07] <aphesz> nemik: beats me.. sshd gone haywire for a while i guessd :p
[08:07] <johnw> DeFi, that's what I use sudo chown
[08:07] <Severian> jeavislap, Are you familiar with pastebin?
[08:07] <DeFi> hmm
[08:07] <booger> ya I switched to totem-xine and the sound is not working also installed gxine, which is awsome, but no sound as well. I do however get sound from internet flash animations and streamed audio.
[08:07] <johnw> chown: changing ownership of `/chroot/named/var': Operation not permitted
[08:07] <glyn> /dev/hda3            1256        1292      279720    5  Extended
[08:08] <Arinux> anyone good here in kernel upgradation?
[08:08] <DeFi> try doin sudo su
[08:08] <DeFi> then do it
[08:08] <johnw> what's su?
[08:08] <DeFi> superuser
[08:08] <johnw> root!
[08:08] <DeFi> yep
[08:08] <glyn> aphesz:/dev/hda3            1256        1292      279720    5  Extended
[08:08] <johnw> DeFi: you are the man.  can i ever log in as root?
[08:09] <Severian> booger, I know this may seem silly, but frequently the no sound problem is just that the volume control is turned down.  Open the Volume Control and be sure things are turned up.
[08:09] <DeFi> not by default, you have to enable the root user
[08:09] <johnw> DeFi: how do i set the password?
[08:09] <siimo> 2D performance in breezy sucks compared to hoary? why is this? did gnome become bloated? when i minimize all windows it takes a second for icons to appear on desktop again  - if i install nvidia driver its a little faster but still VERY slow compared to hoary, whats wrong here? i mean in hoary nv driver was 10 times faster than anything in breezy
[08:09] <DeFi> passwd root
[08:09] <DeFi> (as root)
[08:09] <nemik> johnw, sudo passwd root
[08:09] <jeavislap> Severian; no
[08:09] <booger> did that even went into alsamixer and turned everythin on and up. checked system sound and application sound
[08:09] <johnw> thank you DeFi and nemik
[08:09] <DeFi> well we cheated and did `sudo su` ;)
[08:10] <siimo> anyone experience this?
[08:10] <glyn> can anyone help me mount a partition I just made?  this is what's happening
[08:10] <nemik> ahh ok
[08:10] <glyn> when I try to mount it it says this
[08:10] <DeFi> hehe
[08:10] <glyn> sudo mount /dev/hda3 /home/glyn/Extended\ HD/ mount: special device /dev/hda3 does not exist
[08:10] <aphesz> glyn: im not a guru about partitions but i dont think Extended paritions can be mounted
[08:10] <aftertaf> glyn paste results of fdisk -l to pastebin
[08:10] <nitinshantharam> how do i change the mailbox size for a user
[08:11] <Severian> jeavislap, the way of passing information in this irc channel is to visit http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl  Paste your information to a page there and return here to give the URL.
[08:11] <linukso> siimo: I have the same problem...
[08:11] <Arinux> Any one?
[08:11] <Severian> booger, What kind of sound card do you have?
[08:12] <booger> stock on mother board how would I check
[08:12] <siimo> linukso, its very annoying even with nvidia driver installed its bad :-( and windows move jerky
[08:12] <linukso> I know....
[08:12] <aero> ah, ubuntu!
[08:12] <siimo> tried anything to fix it?
[08:12] <linukso> nope
[08:12] <aero> :)
[08:13] <Severian> booger, what is the motherboard?
[08:13] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: define "mailbox size"
[08:13] <glyn> how do I check if something is mounted correctly?
[08:13] <booger> ooh I dont know for sure
[08:13] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: do you mean disk quota?
[08:13] <NoUse> glyn run mount
[08:13] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: or removing unwanted mail from a mailbox
[08:13] <siimo> :-(
[08:13] <nitinshantharam> well, i dont know the exact error i am getting is this: Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; cannot access mailbox /var/mail/nitin for user
[08:13] <nitinshantharam>    nitin. error writing message: File too large
[08:13] <siimo> disappointed i might go back to hoary
[08:14] <Severian> booger, OK, open System/Device Manager.  Look for your sound card in the list of devices that the OS knows about.
[08:14] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: ls -lh /var/mail/nitin
[08:14] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: what is the size?
[08:14] <nitinshantharam> 49m
[08:14] <glyn> cool thanks I got it
[08:14] <nitinshantharam> 49M
[08:15] <xidoo> hola
[08:15] <xidoo> alguien de mexico
[08:15] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: strange
[08:15] <xidoo> o que hable espaol
[08:15] <booger> it says Sis sound controller
[08:15] <nitinshantharam> TTilus: hmm..
[08:15] <Madpilot> !es
[08:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:15] <xidoo> es la primera vez que utilizo un sistema linux
[08:15] <DeFi> nitinshantharam: there is a size option in here: /etc/postfix/main.cf ..... not sure if it helps
[08:15] <thoreauputic> !es
[08:16] <glyn> is there an easy way to free up space and see what's taking up so much space?
[08:16] <nitinshantharam> deeLer i dont see a size opton
[08:16] <nitinshantharam> opps
[08:16] <kandoora_> how do i get totem player to get all the necessary codecs
[08:16] <nitinshantharam> DeFi: i dont seee an option for size
[08:16] <glyn> kandoora_:try apt-get install totem-xine
[08:16] <DeFi> mailbox_size_limit = 0
[08:16] <Madpilot> !tell kandoora_ about restricted
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> glyn, du | sort -rn | head -5
[08:16] <DeFi> is what i have in mine
[08:16] <glyn> and w32codecs
[08:16] <Severian> booger, what speed is your CPU?  I am trying to get some clue as to the era of your sound device.
[08:16] <DeFi> could prolly change that to whatever
[08:16] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: man postfix?
[08:17] <nitinshantharam> defcon8 ill set that to soemthign and try
[08:17] <jeavislap> Qttutorial1.cpp:7:28: QApplication: No existe el fichero o el directorio
[08:17] <jeavislap> Qttutorial1.cpp:8:27: QPushButton: No existe el fichero o el directorio
[08:17] <jeavislap> Qttutorial1.cpp: En function `int main(int, char**)':
[08:17] <jeavislap> Qttutorial1.cpp:12: error: `QApplication' undeclared (first use this function)
[08:17] <jeavislap> Qttutorial1.cpp:12: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
[08:17] <jeavislap>    for each function it appears in.)
[08:17] <jeavislap> Qttutorial1.cpp:12: error: error de decodificacin before `(' token
[08:17] <jeavislap> Qttutorial1.cpp:14: error: `QPushButton' undec
[08:17] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: or you could try to make backup copy of you mailbox and empty the file completely
[08:17] <booger> unknown I know its an amd athalon xp2000
[08:17] <nitinshantharam> TTilus: ugh..
[08:17] <thoreauputic> jeavislap: do *NOT* paste in here
[08:17] <Madpilot> !tell jeavislap about paste
[08:17] <kandoora_> glyn, is the totem-xine all the codecs i need
[08:17] <Severian> jeavislap, please stop or you will get kicked off.
[08:18] <jeavislap> Severian; I pasted, Can you check
[08:18] <DeFi> XD
[08:18] <xidoo> hola
[08:18] <Severian> jeavislap, what is the URL for the pastebin page?
[08:18] <glyn> kandoora_:if that doesn't work look into w32 codecs
[08:18] <aero> I have a quick question here - when i 'sudo' (fresh install), how come it wants my user password not the SU (root) password - is that not rather insecure, has it allowed root privs to my designated user ?
[08:18] <xidoo> hi, someone may i help me?
[08:18] <jeavislap> Severian; sorry I think that I have your nick in my mem
[08:18] <glyn> kandoora_:that will upgrade totem though to get more stuff working
[08:18] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: just cp and echo > /var/mail/nitin
[08:19] <thoreauputic> !tell aero about rootsudo
[08:19] <xidoo> hola alguien me puede ayudar?
[08:19] <thoreauputic> !es
[08:19] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:19] <jeavislap> que paso xidoo
[08:19] <aero> thanks thoreauputic
[08:19] <Severian> jeavislap, no problem.  I have been trying to help.
[08:19] <xidoo> jeavislap me puedes decir un canal en espaol para obtener una mejor ayuda
[08:19] <jeavislap> Severian; http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3975
[08:20] <jeavislap> #ubuntu-es
[08:20] <xidoo> es la primera vez que uso un sistema linux
[08:20] <jeavislap> xidoo, cual es tu problema, de donde eres
[08:20] <thoreauputic> guys - this is an english channel - /join #ubuntu-es
[08:20] <glyn> when I do du | sort -rn | head -5 I only get 2 files, one that's 3mb and another that's less than 1mb
[08:20] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: hth, i'm leavig now...
[08:20] <jeavislap> sorry
[08:20] <xidoo> soy de mexico, pues quisiera aprender a usar linux, empeze con ubuntu
[08:21] <thoreauputic> xidoo: please, last warning
[08:21] <GTroy> are the repos alright?
[08:21] <booger> ac 97 2.3
[08:21] <glyn> how do I clean up old compiling?
[08:21] <booger> thats the sound card
[08:21] <TTilus> xidoo: go  /join #ubuntu-es
[08:21] <jeavislap> xidoo; #ubuntu-es
[08:21] <GTroy> or is it my source list?
[08:21] <Severian> booger, ok the bad news is that I don't have an idea for you.  I can guess that the sound chip is one of just a few now.  I have one of those and it does fine for me.  I was hoping you had an older system and it might have been something else.
[08:22] <jeavislap> Severian; do you check my problem
[08:22] <booger> ya before when I was on hoary movie audio worked fine
[08:22] <xidoo> jeavislap como entro trato de usar este chat como en MIRC
[08:22] <jeavislap> xidoo; type this /join #ubuntu-es
[08:22] <Severian> jeavislap, I am looking at it now.  I had to finish an answer to someone else first.
[08:22] <aero> hmm, is wiki down at the moment?
[08:22] <xidoo> esa sentenci donde la uso
[08:22] <jeavislap> Severian; thanks
[08:23] <booger> any sugestions to applications settings
[08:23] <thoreauputic> xidoo:  type  /join #ubuntu-es
[08:23] <kandoora_> !w32codecs
[08:23] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).  For 64-bit read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[08:23] <rixth> RewriteRule ^error/([0-9] +)/$ /error/$1.html << Should that not rewrite domain.org/error/401 to /error/401.html?
[08:23] <jeavislap> xidoo; /join #ubuntu-es
[08:23] <glyn> how do I clean up old compiling?
[08:23] <glyn> or should it remain where it left off without downloading excess files?
[08:23] <thoreauputic> glyn:  make clean  ?
[08:23] <xidoo> gracias jeavislap ya  estoy en la otra sala :P
[08:24] <Severian> jeavislap, The problem looks to be missing header files.  Either they are missing or they are not in your path properly.
[08:24] <glyn> make clean tells me no rule to make target 'clean'
[08:24] <rixth> ubotu, ubuntu in spanish
[08:24] <ubotu> rixth: Are you on ritalin?
[08:24] <kandoora_> Madpilot: what's the deal with restricted formats
[08:24] <rixth> ubotu, es
[08:24] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:24] <jeavislap> Severian; What I can do, I use gnome
[08:25] <DejaVudew> I've got a n00b question
[08:25] <kandoora_> glyn: when i wanna install totem-xine i gotta uninstall totem-gstreamer
[08:25] <DejaVudew> I can't run any video in firefox under Totem because it doesn't have codecs
[08:25] <Severian> jeavislap, I am looking.  I told you what I knew.  Give me a moment and I should be able to tell you more.
[08:25] <kandoora_> glyn: what is gstreamer
[08:25] <thoreauputic> !tell DejaVudew about restricted
[08:25] <jeavislap> Severian; Ok
[08:25] <glyn> kandoora_:basically a lesser version of what you're going to get
[08:26] <Madpilot> kandoora_: mp3 and such are patented, they're referred to as "restricted" - hence the name of the page
[08:26] <thoreauputic> DejaVudew: read ubotu's msg
[08:26] <star> fasfasdasd
[08:26] <glyn> !w32codecs
[08:26] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).  For 64-bit read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[08:26] <kandoora_> Madpilot: so do i need ogg vorbis and theora
[08:26] <yi> does anyone know how to disable gamin?
[08:27] <Madpilot> kandoora_: those should be working by default
[08:27] <glyn> anyone have any ideas of how to free up disk space?
[08:27] <Madpilot> kandoora_: but if you need to play mp3/wmv/etc use the info on RestrictedFormats
[08:27] <aphesz> glyn: delete unwanted files ?
[08:27] <DejaVudew> !w32codecs
[08:28] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).  For 64-bit read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[08:28] <glyn> aphesz: the last time I tried that I deleted some packages and lost gnome
[08:28] <glyn> aphesz: it took me hours to get it back
[08:28] <Danny|> i just connected my mp3 player to ubuntu, and it recognized it as a 491mb removable volume.. i deleted a few albums from it but it still says that there are only 2mb free.. did i miss something?
[08:28] <thoreauputic> glyn: apt-get clean will wipe your cache of debs as well (usually several hundred MB)
[08:28] <Fletch> I only installed the base version of ubuntu and I want to get a window manager (XCFE) just so I can use xmms, I installed xserver-xorg, whats next?
[08:28] <glyn> aphesz:the biggest file(s) I have total like 10mb or less
[08:28] <aphesz> glyn: check .log files. those are usually bloated yet redundant files
[08:29] <Fletch> The computer I'm doing it on doesnt have net access either
[08:29] <glyn> thoreauputic:that helped with about 50 mb
[08:29] <glyn> thanks
[08:29] <thoreauputic> Fletch: you'll need at least x-window-system-core
[08:30] <thoreauputic> Fletch: and an xterm, plus a window manager
[08:30] <glyn> I'm compiling something using a shell script
[08:30] <glyn> I keep running out of space before it finishes
[08:30] <dooglus> glyn: write a DVD full of stuff you don't use much and you'll save 4.3 gigs
[08:30] <glyn> does it start where I left off?
[08:30] <thoreauputic> Fletch: if you want xfce4 you can do sudo apt-get install xfce4
[08:30] <glyn> or is this why I have so much space taken up?
[08:31] <dooglus> glyn: if it's really a shell script, it's quite likely it restarts from the beginning each time.  if it's a makefile it's likely to continue where it left off
[08:31] <Severian> jeavislap, check in synaptic and see if you have the qt3-apps-dev package.
[08:31] <dooglus> glyn: what are you trying to compile?
[08:31] <glyn> dooglus: well it's a sh for compiling winecvs
[08:31] <glyn> dooglus:it has a stage where it says make though and it always goes back to that cuz that's where it gets stuck
[08:31] <dooglus> glyn: oh, i see.
[08:32] <glyn> dooglus:I just don't want to be repititively wasting space
[08:32] <dooglus> glyn: the shell script might be cleaning up before it runs the make, in which case it will be starting from scratch each time.
[08:32] <thoreauputic> glyn: do you have the build-essential package installed ?
[08:32] <dooglus> glyn: run "du -xk ~ | sort -n" to see where your disk space is going
[08:33] <Severian> jeavislap, also check  libqt3-dev  and  libqt3-headers
[08:33] <booger> any one have audio problems with just video?
[08:33] <glyn> thoreauputic:yes
[08:33] <dooglus> booger: what kind of audio problems?
[08:33] <thoreauputic> OK
[08:33] <booger> totem or gxine does not produce audio but streaming music and internet audio works
[08:33] <jeavislap> Severian: qt3-apps-dev is installed
[08:34] <dooglus> booger: i've not had that, no.
[08:34] <dooglus> booger: but then, i've not used gxine or totem much
[08:34] <booger> what are you using
[08:34] <Arinux> hey anyone good at compiling kernels?
[08:34] <Severian> jeavislap, did you see the other two I asked you to check on?
[08:35] <dooglus> Arinux: gcc is good at compiling kernels
[08:35] <dooglus> Arinux: I wouldn't suggest doing it by hand - it would be a waste of a life
[08:35] <Arinux> dooglus: I got a small query
[08:35] <booger> dooglus: what are you using
[08:35] <dooglus> booger: mostly just mplayer-nogui
[08:35] <Arinux> i downloaded the i386 version
[08:35] <dooglus> Arinux: shoot
[08:35] <Arinux> now i have installed on my laptop which is i686
[08:36] <booger> dooglus: how is that working for you, do dvd's work
[08:36] <Arinux> i am going for the vanillla kernel
[08:36] <jeavislap> Severian; yes
[08:36] <Arinux> so now i want it to take the i686 architecture
[08:36] <dooglus> booger: not much.  they play, but without 'navigation'.  I use xine for dvds with navigation
[08:36] <yosef> Can someone help me concerning hebrew file names?
[08:36] <jeavislap> Severian; libqt3-dev yes
[08:36] <Arinux> so how is that possible
[08:36] <wickedpuppy> Arinux, sudp apt-get install linux-image
[08:37] <tritium> Arinux, why are you going to compile your own kernel?
[08:37] <wickedpuppy> Arinux, sudo apt-get install linux-image
[08:37] <jeavislap> Severian; the 3 yes
[08:37] <Arinux> while upgrading what should i do to get i686 image
[08:37] <booger> dooglus: gxine works great for navigation but no sound. it has the same settup as xine jus different gui
[08:37] <tritium> Arinux, sudo apt-get install linux-686
[08:37] <yosef> does anyone here run a system with hebrew?
[08:38] <Arinux> tritium:but does it have vanilla kernel and the ck patch
[08:38] <dooglus> Arinux: I don't know how to build a 686 kernel.  maybe if you build on a 686 machine you get a 686 kernel by default?  I don't know.
[08:38] <Arinux> noo dooglus, its like the kernel is built for that architecture
[08:38] <jeavislap> Severian; I have the same result
[08:38] <DejaVudew> Are the backports down? Mine don't work for Badger
[08:38] <tritium> Arinux, no
[08:39] <waime> hi
[08:39] <DejaVudew> or Breezy
[08:39] <wickedpuppy> DejaVudew, topic
[08:39] <waime> !tell waime about webcam
[08:39] <DejaVudew> lol
[08:39] <DejaVudew> <-- moron
[08:39] <dooglus> Arinux: oh, I see.  make sure you have "CONFIG_M686=y" in the config then
[08:39] <aero> to where should i download debs that i want to install manually ?
[08:40] <dooglus> Arinux: when you "make gconfig" you'll find the 686 option somewhere.  or you can just edit the .config file by hand.
[08:40] <spiderworm> hi all, im thinking about upgrading my hoary mythtv box to breezy, it also has nvidia 3d acceleration working, if i upgrade to breezy, do you guys think i will break the 3d accel and mythtv?
[08:40] <dooglus> Arinux: start by copying the config* file from /boot into .config in the kernel source dir
[08:40] <thoreauputic> aero: it doesn't really matter - $HOME is as good a place as any
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> aero, anywhere ? in one of the directories in ya home dir i suppose
[08:40] <waime> aero: anywhere you want. I have a /home/me/Downloads for that, but the desktop is fine, so long as you remember to delete them after....
[08:40] <Arinux> okay
[08:40] <glyn> as far as I can tell the only thing taking up space is this wine compiling that I'm doing
[08:40] <aero> i was thinking of the same place that apt downloaded the debs to?
[08:40] <aero> or is that daft
[08:40] <glyn> so far it's taken like 500 mb
[08:40] <thoreauputic> aero: not necessary
[08:41] <aero> kk ta
[08:41] <glyn> it must be in packages where It's taking up the most memory
[08:41] <thoreauputic> aero: once installed they appear in the cache anyway
[08:41] <tritium> spiderworm, no, it won't break
[08:41] <aero> oh ok
[08:41] <glyn> anyone know if I can find a list of what packages I have?
[08:41] <wickedpuppy> glyn, synaptic
[08:41] <tritium> glyn, dpkg -l
[08:41] <thoreauputic> glyn: dpkg -l | less  is advisable ;)
[08:42] <tritium> or redirect it to a file
[08:42] <thoreauputic> yes
[08:42] <tritium> Arinux, if you're going to compile a kernel, look into installing kernel-package so you can build a .deb of your custom kernel
[08:42] <johnw> i have seriously jacked myself.  /etc/sudoers somehow changed owners to root:named and now no sudo command works.  I can't even delete the user named because sudo doesn't work.  HELP! sudo su doesn't work either
[08:43] <glyn> is it possible I could paste my packages on a pastebin and someone could tell me what I probably won't need?
[08:43] <tritium> johnw, can you reboot into rescue mode and fix it?
[08:43] <waime> I'm having SEVERE v4l troubles trying to use the webcam - It assassinates my 64bitBreezy everytime I use it. Any help?
[08:43] <johnw> tritium: haven't tried that yet...
[08:43] <tritium> no, glyn, there are too many packages to atempt to look through
[08:43] <glyn> all I really need on the comp is mp3 support, emulation support, vb support, flash support, Java, and the basic stuff needed for gnome and gaim and xchat
[08:43] <johnw> tritium: but I"m not sure if thaty can help
[08:43] <tritium> attempt, that is
[08:43] <tritium> johnw, it should.  give it a tary
[08:43] <tritium> try
[08:43] <johnw> ok
[08:43] <johnw> i'll be back
[08:43] <glyn> tritium:that's the only way I'll be able to do free space without crashing my computer
[08:43] <thoreauputic> johnw: if you boot to recovery mode you should get a root prompt
[08:44] <Fletch> thoreauputic, do you know if xfce4 is on the ubuntu CD?
[08:44] <tritium> glyn, only you can decide what you need/want
[08:44] <aftertaf> ill try again.... :)
[08:44] <thoreauputic> Fletch: no, not on the CD
[08:44] <glyn> tritium:I can't, last time I did that I didn't have gnome anymore
[08:44] <thoreauputic> Fletch: it's in Universe
[08:44] <glyn> tritium:and it took me like 5 hours on a black screen to get it back
[08:45] <Fletch> universe?
[08:45] <tritium> glyn, have you cleaned out your apt cache?  (apt-get clean)
[08:45] <glyn> tritium:yes that helped a little
[08:45] <kandoora_> if i wanna download a package and it's got depends, would the depends get uninstalled when i completely remove the original package?
[08:45] <DeFi> glyn delete your /tmp/* and your /var/log/* to start
[08:45] <glyn> tritium:but not enough to complete this compiling
[08:45] <thoreauputic> Fletch: if you are starting from a base "server" install you'll need the internet I think
[08:45] <tritium> kandoora_, if you use aptitude, yes
[08:45] <dooglus> glyn: "debfoster" is useful for getting rid of packages you don't need
[08:46] <tritium> kandoora_, but you'd have to have used aptitude to install it as well as uninstall it
[08:46] <Fletch> thoreauputic, what If I downloaded the packages onto my thumbdrive
[08:46] <kandoora_> tritium: how about synaptic
[08:46] <tritium> kandoora_, I don't use synaptic, but I don't think so...
[08:46] <thoreauputic> Fletch: you can try - but make sure you get all dependencies or it won't install
[08:46] <kandoora_> tritium, as in apt-get
[08:47] <aero> bbl
[08:47] <tritium> kandoora_, no
[08:47] <Fletch> Well what do I need again
[08:47] <thoreauputic> Fletch:  apt-cache depends xfce4  should give you an idea
[08:47] <kandoora_> tritium: what is aptitued
[08:47] <tritium> kandoora_, apt-cache show aptitude, and you'll see
[08:47] <thoreauputic> Fletch: it would be easier to use another wm like fluxbox (less dependencies)
[08:48] <hawking> Are there any special settings that I should set as installing ubuntu to my laptop? I have been trying for hours but it doesn't work
[08:48] <hawking> is there a wiki page for ubuntu and laptops_
[08:48] <tritium> hawking, please be more specific
[08:48] <hawking> tritium: ok
[08:48] <Fletch> ok
[08:48] <hawking> tritium: The first time I tried to install...
[08:48] <Fletch> Ill use that then
[08:49] <kandoora_> tritium: so since i've been using synaptic all along to install and uninstall, does that mean that i have a lot of residue and junk
[08:49] <Fletch> is there any that come with the ubuntu CD?
[08:49] <tritium> kandoora_, you may, if you've uninstalled various packages
[08:49] <thoreauputic> Fletch: no, becuse the CD is "ubuntu-desktop" which is Gnome
[08:49] <thoreauputic> *because
[08:49] <tritium> kandoora_, look into using deborphan and debfoster
[08:49] <hawking> tritium: everything went allright until I get the CD out and reboot the computer and then the hotplug didn't work
[08:50] <kandoora_> tritium, anyway of checking what's the junk
[08:50] <Fletch> ok
[08:50] <kandoora_> tritium, what's deborphan and debfoster
[08:50] <tritium> kandoora_, tools to help you with what you're doing.  please apt-cache show <packagename> to find out for yourself
[08:51] <sword> hey
[08:51] <hawking> tritium: no ideas of a solution?
[08:51] <thoreauputic> Fletch: since you are installing X from scratch, you will probably need to run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to configure it
[08:52] <sword> any of you tried mounting a HFS or HFS+ fs on ubuntu?
[08:52] <tritium> hawking, I'm looking...
[08:52] <thoreauputic> sword: yes - workds fine
[08:52] <thoreauputic> *works
[08:52] <sword> how did you do it th?
[08:52] <sword> err
[08:52] <sword> thoreauputic, ?
[08:52] <thoreauputic> at least hfsplus
[08:52] <thoreauputic> sword: make a line in /etc/fstab
[08:53] <aftertaf> Seveas> you around man? little hiccup with my nat... and as it is your script, was wondering if you could point me on to the right track... ?
[08:53] <thoreauputic> sword: I'm not on my iBook or I'd give you my synatx...
[08:53] <thoreauputic> *syntax
[08:53] <thoreauputic> sword: from memeory the filesystem type is written  " hfsplus"
[08:54] <hawking> someone pls help...I am trying to install ubuntu to my laptop but after the installation from CD when I reboot the computer it just gets stuck as launching hotplug
[08:54] <thoreauputic> someone correct that if you know...
[08:54] <sword> im not sure if this is a hfs or hfsplus filesystem
[08:54] <Arinux> hawking press cntrl+c at that stage
[08:54] <sword> i'm trying to recover data from this hdd i have
[08:54] <thoreauputic> sword: if it's OS-X I think itwould be hfsplus
[08:55] <sword> ahh
[08:55] <tritium> hawking, what kind of USB devices are connected right now?
[08:56] <thoreauputic> sword: if you don't want to edit fstab I guess  you can do   sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/hdX /mnt   or similar
[08:57] <thoreauputic> where X is the relevant device like  hda4  or whatever
[08:57] <hawking> tritium: a camera
[08:58] <tshepo> hi guys I am not sure whether I am in the right room cause I am new to this. I have a problem with installing sun-j2re1.5
[08:58] <tritium> hawking, try unplugging it during installation
[08:58] <thoreauputic> !tell tshepo about javadeb
[08:58] <hawking> tritium: I can't it is above the screen of the laptop and fixed
[08:58] <hawking> it is a tiny thing
[08:59] <thoreauputic> hmm is ubotu down?
[08:59] <thoreauputic> ubotu test
[08:59] <tritium> hawking, hmm...
[08:59] <thoreauputic> hmmm ubotu is not well....
[08:59] <tshepo> I tried to search the wiki but could not get the solution
[09:00] <hawking> tritium: any other ideas? maybe a boot parameter that will do the same?
[09:00] <Java_the_Hutt> do you know a good Mono ide for linux ?
[09:00] <tritium> hawking, you can try disabling USB in the BIOS temporarily
[09:00] <sword> thoreauputic, getting error ;\
[09:01] <thoreauputic> sword: what error ?
[09:01] <wickedpuppy> Java_the_Hutt, mono has ide i think
[09:01] <sword> can I PM you the message?
[09:01] <hawking> hmm how is it done?
[09:01] <thoreauputic> sword: pastebin it
[09:01] <sword> k
[09:02] <sword> http://pastebin.com/414527
[09:02] <thoreauputic> looking...
[09:02] <tshepo> does anyone know where I can get help about installing sun-j2re1.5 and freemind. I used instruction of the Ubuntuguide but I get problems with unment dependencies when I try to install sun-j2re1.5
[09:03] <tritium> hawking, depends on your bios
[09:03] <thoreauputic> sword: not /dev/hda  - you need tospecify the partition
[09:03] <thoreauputic> sword:  like /dev/hda4 or whatever :  sudo fdisk -l to see
[09:03] <hawking> tritium what does the options noapic and nolapic do as I boot?
[09:04] <tritium> tshepo, build your own java .deb with Sun's .bin installer and the ubuntu package "java-package"
[09:04] <ubotu> Passed.
[09:04] <tritium> there he is...
[09:04] <thoreauputic> wow that took a while ubotu ...
[09:04] <sword> thoreauputic, its giving me /dev/hda
[09:04] <sword> holdup ill pastebin the output
[09:05] <thoreauputic> sword: no, it will give you a list
[09:05] <sword> http://pastebin.com/414529
[09:05] <sword> yeah
[09:05] <tritium> they always quit before you have time to reply...
[09:07] <thoreauputic> sword: ah you're using raid? Sorry that's beyond my experience level
[09:07] <NutterUK> hello can someone tell me what is the differnece between all the distros? Ive tried a couple of livecd's and I cant find any really
[09:07] <highvoltage> is it safe to dist-upgrade from warty to breezy
[09:07] <thoreauputic> sword: evidently you have scsi or sata discs... ?
[09:07] <sword> thoreauputic, yeah
[09:07] <dooglus> Arinux: did you try the -ck patches before with ubuntu?  how well do they work?
[09:07] <sword> thoreauputic, but the drive isnt a raid drive
[09:07] <sword> sda and md* files are raid and lvm
[09:07] <dooglus> highvoltage: I've read that it's not safe.  you should go via hoary.
[09:08] <sword> but i have the drive im trying to get the data off...its by itself
[09:08] <sword> a PATA drive
[09:08] <thoreauputic> sword: you need to specify in your mount command - for instance if it's /dev/sdb1  etc
[09:09] <sword> well I just put it in place of my cdrom drive
[09:09] <sword> which is /dev/hda
[09:09] <thoreauputic> sword: but since I don't really undersdstand the raid stuff, maybe someone else can help you
[09:09] <NutterUK> hello can someone tell me what is the differnece between all the distros? Ive tried a couple of livecd's and I cant find any really
[09:09] <sword> ignore the raid stuff, it really shouldnt matter
[09:09] <sword> thanks for helping me btw
[09:10] <thoreauputic> sword: OK - well just try specifying the particular partition as above I guess
[09:11] <thoreauputic> sword: I only see linux partittions in that output...
[09:11] <aagantuk> while installing vlc i get error : Depends : dbus-1 (>=0.23.4) but it is nmot going to install
[09:11] <dooglus> thoreauputic: is there any good reason to use ubuntu's 2.6.12 kernel rather than a vanilla 2.6.14 kernel?
[09:11] <aagantuk> but i have latst dbus installed
[09:12] <sword> df -h output
[09:12] <sword> http://pastebin.com/414532
[09:12] <thoreauputic> dooglus: no idea , sorry - i would assume the ubuntu version is pretty heavily patched ?
[09:12] <megamind> how do install bind
[09:12] <aagantuk> also same error libha10
[09:13] <dooglus> aagantuk: are you using non-standard repositories?
[09:13] <Severian> jeavislap, are you still with me?
[09:13] <aagantuk> dooglus : i just added vlan and skype repo to defaults
[09:13] <thoreauputic> sword: erm - I thought this was on a mac? why the #
[09:13] <thoreauputic> tmpfs                 507M   13M  494M   3% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile
[09:14] <sword> no this isnt on a mac
[09:14] <thoreauputic> that's a 386 kernel....
[09:14] <sword> yeah
[09:14] <sword> im trying to get files off of a hfs drive
[09:14] <sword> my bad
[09:14] <thoreauputic> ah
[09:15] <Ugel> The Ubuntu Disk Manager doesn't seem to let me set write access for partitions. Is there an Ubuntu way to do that?
[09:16] <aagantuk> dooglus : what might be the problem >?
[09:17] <Madpilot> Ugel: if it's an NTFS partition, you can't write to it in LInux, not safely
[09:18] <glyn> how do I set up a root password?
[09:19] <Ugel> Madpilot: Well, there have been recent improvements in that, but this doesn't just concern NTFS partitions.
[09:19] <thoreauputic> glyn: you really don't need to
[09:19] <glyn> thoreauputic:I do for this program I'm running
[09:19] <thoreauputic> glyn: but if you feel you must, you can  do     sudo passwd root
[09:20] <glyn> thoreauputic:thanks
[09:20] <Ugel> Madpilot: In my case, not NTFS at all. These are VFAT partitions.
[09:21] <megamind> where do i find the reference for bind ?
[09:21] <Ugel> So do I have to manually modify fstab or does Ubuntu provide anything to do that for me?
[09:22] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[09:22] <ubotu> hmm... mountwindows is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically)
[09:22] <odie5533> Can anyone here tell me how to set-up a SVN Server on Ubuntu?
[09:22] <Ugel> thoreauputic: Neither Windows nor Mac partitions.
[09:23] <Ugel> *These are
[09:23] <thoreauputic> Ugel: erm , but vfat ? Same principle
[09:23] <thoreauputic> Ugel: putting   umask=000  in fstab should do it I guess
[09:24] <DejaVudew> are the ati drivers the same between Breezy and Hoary?
[09:24] <Ugel> thoreauputic: Yes. I was more concerned about whether Ubuntu had something available for people didn't have a clue what they were doing.
[09:25] <DejaVudew> I'm looking here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29%7C%28AND%29%7C%28driver%29%7C%28AND%29%7C%28graphics%29
[09:25] <alekz> wich is the command for take a screenshot from terminal
[09:25] <alekz> ?
[09:25] <thoreauputic> Ugel: heh - this is a weak point in Ubuntu in my opinion - these kinds of partitions tend not to be recognised correctly
[09:25] <thoreauputic> alekz: in X?
[09:25] <Madpilot> DejaVudew: the Hoary instructions seem to work for some people - I had to follow the "reconfigure w/o X running" part of that page to get 3d accel running here
[09:25] <Ugel> thoreauputic: It doesn't have a problem recognizing mine...
[09:25] <alekz> thoreauputic, X or gnome
[09:25] <kandoora_> i've downloaded some extra plugins for totem and now everything is so bright and eeeek
[09:26] <nicholaspaul> does anyone know of some fun (ie easy to learn!) network games? i want to play   multiplayer on my network...
[09:26] <Ugel> thoreauputic: It's just the auto-mount and write access that aren't supported (and should be).
[09:26] <thoreauputic> alekz:  if you install imagemagick , you can do for instance   import -window root screenshot.png
[09:26] <DejaVudew> thanks
[09:26] <DejaVudew> I'll give it a go
[09:27] <alekz> thanks th
[09:27] <alekz> thoreauputic :)
[09:27] <thoreauputic> Ugel: yes, I don't know why Ubuntu doesn't do this frankly
[09:27] <nicholaspaul> i'm really looking for multi-FPS  types
[09:28] <siimo> can someone type my name in here please
[09:28] <thoreauputic> alekz: but what's wrong with using the PrintScrn key or the gnome app for screenshots?
[09:28] <nicholaspaul> siimo
[09:28] <thoreauputic> siimo:
[09:29] <Ugel> thoreauputic: With time, hopefully. :)
[09:29] <alekz> thoreauputic, i cant take a screenshot with gnome menus opened :(
[09:29] <thoreauputic> Ugel: :)
[09:29] <nicholaspaul> hey there must be SOME gamers in here...
[09:29] <siimo> thanks
[09:29] <thoreauputic> alekz: ah I see
[09:30] <thoreauputic> alekz: well with the imagemagick thing you can also do for instance   " sleep 5s && import -window root screenshot.png " to give you a delay
[09:31] <alekz> nice thoreauputic let me try it! :)
[09:31] <Ugel> Oh, I have a Dell 2005FPW monitor and ATI Radeon 9800 Pro and when I use the ati drivers, I don't get OpenGL graphics acceleration. When I use fglrx drivers, whenever I turn off my screen or exit a fullscreen application (e.g., TuxRacer) I can't get the screen back. Anyone found a solution to this?
[09:31] <thoreauputic> alekz: the screenshot lands in your working directory, of course...
[09:31] <alekz> i think so :)
[09:31] <Ugel> I saw it in an Ubuntu forum so I know I'm not the only one.
[09:32] <Ugel> And I'm using the DVI output. Not sure if I should change anything with that option.
[09:32] <kandoora_> how do i make the default player anything other than totem
[09:33] <kandoora_> let's say when i click a file i want it always opened by mplayer
[09:33] <thoreauputic> kandoora_:  rigth click a movie/ music file, go to properties, define your preference
[09:34] <thoreauputic> note: in Properties, not "open with"
[09:34] <Severian> kandoora_, right click on the item in nautilus and choose open with.  Choose mplayer and nautilus will notice you used another app.
[09:34] <thoreauputic> Severian: not permanent - properties is where you set it
[09:35] <kandoora_> when i go to fullscreen in mplayer the screen goes full but the movie is still small
[09:35] <Severian> thoreauputic, OK.  It seems like nautilus rembers if I use another application a couple of times.  Maybe, I imagine that.
[09:35] <thoreauputic> Severian: interesting - maybe you arew right :)
[09:36] <thoreauputic> *are
[09:36] <zcat[1] > nah, go to properties, click the spanner, and rearrange the applications so mplayer is the first..
[09:36] <thoreauputic> Severian: I've always defined it in the properties, under the open with tab IIRC
[09:36] <thoreauputic> zcat[1] : right
[09:37] <Severian> thoreauputic, I am sure what you suggest would work.  So, that is probably the best thing to tell people to do.
[09:37] <thoreauputic> zcat[1] : although I don't see a spanner here...
[09:38] <zcat[1] > hmm, I use kde.. might be different?
[09:38] <thoreauputic> zcat[1] : ah yes - it would be different
[09:38] <raphink> yes zcat[1]  it is different
[09:38] <zcat[1] > somewhere in properties anyhow :)
[09:39] <kandoora_>  when i go to fullscreen in mplayer the screen goes full but the movie is still small. what do i do
[09:39] <NutterUK> Is there a program that will install stuff for you? I don't mean synaptic. When I download something I have to type stuff in Terminal. And on MS Win you just double click on a exe and the setup starts. Can you do that on linux?
[09:39] <zcat[1] > you need to change mplayer's video output plugin; some of them don't scale
[09:39] <thoreauputic> kandoora_: I seem to recall you need XV - also there's a "zoom" option in the config file
[09:39] <thomas> opengl scales
[09:39] <aftertaf> NutterUK> learn to "type stuff" in terminal, you will then harness the power of linux.
[09:40] <aftertaf> NutterUK> otherwise, there is no real point continuing to use linux if you want it to be lilke windows.
[09:40] <raphink> NutterUK: why not synaptic?
[09:40] <rob^> NutterUK, that is the power of Linux, not having to find and download .exes
[09:40] <thomas> he wants something like C'N'R
[09:40] <NutterUK> aftertaf Im new to linux and it seems a ball ache to install something
[09:40] <thoreauputic> NutterUK: think differently - you don't download stuff in Ubuntu, you use the package manager
[09:40] <zcat[1] > synaptic isn't like c'n'r ?
[09:40] <thomas> exactly
[09:41] <NutterUK> raphink it does not have everything on it
[09:41] <glyn> anyone know why it's taking such a long time to compile wine via CVS?
[09:41] <thoreauputic> NutterUK: it's extremely simple
[09:41] <thomas> but some rare programs must be built from source, or dpkg'd
[09:41] <glyn> WineCVS sh
[09:41] <raphink> what do you mean not everything NutterUK ?
[09:41] <glyn> it's also taking over 400 MBs
[09:41] <aftertaf> NutterUK> you download the .exe, then dblclick, then click like 20 times on next.... In synaptic or console (apt-get), you download and it installs.. if it needs to ask you something it wil, otherwise it just installs
[09:41] <thoreauputic> !tell NutterUK about repos
[09:41] <zcat[1] > Did you add the restricted and universe repos?
[09:41] <NutterUK> raphink like when i wanted skype it didnt have that on synaptic
[09:41] <odie5533> How do I  mount a Data DVD on Ubuntu?
[09:41] <NutterUK> thoreauputic ill look at that now - thanks
[09:41] <raphink> NutterUK: skype is not open source
[09:41] <raphink> so there's no option for you to get it simply
[09:42] <aftertaf> NutterUK> does windows have oneclick intall for 'everything'?
[09:42] <NutterUK> i know but it is available for linux and i wanted it
[09:42] <raphink> unless, as said by someone else, you get something like CNR
[09:42] <raphink> but then you'll have to pay for it
[09:42] <raphink> ;)
[09:42] <NutterUK> aftertaf yeah basically just keep clicking the next button
[09:42] <thoreauputic> !skype
[09:42] <zcat[1] > "pay for it" yeah.. that's the 'windows way' :)
[09:42] <ubotu> methinks skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:42] <odie5533> Is it possible to mount a data dvd on ubuntu?
[09:42] <thoreauputic> NutterUK: ^^^
[09:42] <raphink> skype is a big security hole
[09:42] <glyn> anyone know why it's taking such a long time to compile wine with WineCVS?  it's also taken up 400 MBs or so
[09:42] <thomas> yes, just insert the DVD, it should mount automatically
[09:42] <raphink> which is why it was forbidden in universities here
[09:42] <odie5533> It isnt
[09:42] <aftertaf> NutterUK> keep in there, and unlearn some things, to learn an alternative... linux doesnt try to be like windows, its 2 differents approaches entirely.
[09:43] <aftertaf> !linuxnotwindows
[09:43] <ubotu> from memory, linuxnotwindows is http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[09:43] <NutterUK> raphink i have cash on my skype so need it on linux
[09:43] <aftertaf> ^^^^^ NutterUK . check that link.
[09:43] <zcat[1] > anyone know something that will do sip other than xlite? I tried kphone and gnomephone but both seem buggy as hell..
[09:43] <NutterUK> aftertaf thanks
[09:43] <raphink> NutterUK: the thing is that
[09:43] <raphink> if you want to have something like CNR, you can pay for it
[09:43] <zcat[1] > (although it might just be me)
[09:44] <raphink> but on Ubuntu you won't get non-free programs easily
[09:44] <raphink> and taht's normal
[09:44] <odie5533> None of the dvds I burnt on linux can be read >_>
[09:44] <NutterUK> raphink ok thanks
[09:44] <thomas> hmm
[09:44] <thomas> what are you burning with?
[09:44] <odie5533> GnomeBaker
[09:44] <raphink> thomas: fire
[09:44] <NutterUK> another thing is my unbuntu wont play dvds! any ideas?
[09:44] <thomas> :P
[09:44] <thomas> try k3b
[09:44] <zcat[1] > odie5533: I would have expected you just insert them and they pop up on the desktop like CD's do?
[09:44] <raphink> NutterUK: same issue again
[09:44] <thoreauputic> !tell NutterUK about restricted
[09:44] <raphink> NutterUK: some dvd librairies are not free
[09:44] <thomas> you need libcssdvd2
[09:44] <raphink> you have to install them yourself
[09:45] <aftertaf> NutterUK> read the link ubotu will send you....
[09:45] <odie5533> thomas: its a data dvd
[09:45] <thespiritoftal> I tried to install ubuntu with "noapic nolapic" boot parameter.It again got stuck on hotplug after install :/ I only have an usb camera which I can't disable from bios :(( any ideas?
[09:45] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[09:45] <NutterUK> aftertaf thanks will do
[09:45] <thomas> odie5533: try burning with k3b, is it good quality media?
[09:45] <BlueEagl1> *sighup*
[09:45] <aftertaf> NutterUK> and take your time to get to know linux... you'll end up shedding your windows habits dude no problem... ;)
[09:46] <odie5533> thomas: yes, fairly good quality
[09:46] <odie5533> thomas: none of my old dvds are being read either...
[09:46] <LasseL> I miss being able to right-click a folder and have the mp3s within played in winamp (or xmms)
[09:46] <NutterUK> aftertaf yeah prob will using both at the moment cause not sure about linux yet. My hardware wont work on it either
[09:46] <thoreauputic> !tell NutterUK about docs
[09:46] <thomas> NutterUK, its as simple as "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" or "./configure; make; sudo make install"
[09:46] <raphink> what hardware NutterUK ?
[09:46] <zcat[1] > LasseL: you can drag and drop the folder onto xmms though?
[09:46] <thomas> odie5533: Try mounting manually then
[09:46] <NutterUK> thomas thanks
[09:47] <odie5533> wont mount manually, says bad fs type or something else
[09:47] <BlueEagl1> lassel: gnome would easily let you make a script for that afaik.
[09:47] <NutterUK> raphink my printer, my fingerprint reader, my voip handset etc
[09:47] <raphink> what is your printer NutterUK ?
[09:47] <NutterUK> its a Lexmark x1150
[09:47] <LasseL> BlueEagl1, well, defaults matter :(
[09:47] <zcat[1] > voip handset?
[09:48] <BlueEagl1> lassel: only for the faint hearted. :)
[09:48] <NutterUK> zcat[1]  its a telephone for the PC
[09:48] <zcat[1] > Yeah.. get an ata adapter. Then you can make and answer voip calls even with the computer off..
[09:48] <LasseL> BlueEagl1, and those whoose time isn't free
[09:48] <raphink> NutterUK: google is your friend -> http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=lexmark+x1150+ubuntu&btnG=Rechercher&meta=
[09:48] <odie5533> thomas, what fs type is a dvd?
[09:48] <thomas> odie5533 UDF i *think*
[09:49] <raphink> NutterUK: in order to use Linux, you need to get used to googling your problems ;)
[09:49] <raphink> there are often lots of answers
[09:49] <hawking> did anyone see my question?
[09:49] <BlueEagl1> nutteruk: "Lexmark Inkjet printers are generally not Linux friendly because they do not provide Linux drivers above or below the Z600-800 series" from http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Lexmark_Printers
[09:49] <NutterUK> raphink thanks ill look if I can install it. Tried using google a few times but get all this linux jargon and dont have a clue what its going on about :)
[09:50] <hawking> :/
[09:50] <thomas> odie5533 your /etc/fstab should read something like "/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0"
[09:50] <NutterUK> BlueEagl1 I know ive found it quite hard to install it
[09:51] <thomas> raphink: have you seen the new line of hp's?
[09:51] <thomas> full A4 photoquality in 14 seconds flat
[09:51] <raphink> what new line thomas ?
[09:51] <raphink> nice :)
[09:51] <raphink> I've gotten a PSC 1510
[09:51] <alekz> how can i install a .deb package ?
[09:51] <raphink> :)
[09:52] <raphink> alekz: sudo dpkg -i yourpackage.de b
[09:52] <raphink> without the space between .de and b ;)
[09:52] <thomas> raphink: 2 pages per second on b&w draft
[09:52] <odie5533> thomas: I have a device called /dev/hdd, /dev/cdrom1, and /dev/dvd which should be in fstab?
[09:52] <Severian> alekz,    dpkg -i package.deb
[09:52] <alekz> thanks raphink :)
[09:52] <thomas> /dev/dvd
[09:53] <thomas> how many people have people here "converted"
[09:53] <linkd> converted what?
[09:53] <thomas> people to ubuntu
[09:54] <linkd> oh
[09:54] <hansi_xp> converted?
[09:55] <hansi_xp> i had ubuntu, but i put on debian instead
[09:55] <odie5533> thomas: 0 :(
[09:55] <thomas> 3
[09:55] <linkd> 1
[09:55] <thomas> oh, does ANYBODY know how to enable DRI on an ATI rage 128 (xpert 99) agp 8mb?
[09:55] <raphink> thomas: I've installed ubuntu on about 5 friends' computers in the last 2months
[09:55] <raphink> people from windows
[09:55] <raphink> other friends installed them alone
[09:55] <raphink> ;)
[09:56] <NutterUK> thanks for you help everyone. just going to restart my comp and load linux
[09:56] <thomas> ati rage 128? anyone?
[09:56] <thomas> i searched EVERYWHERE on the forums, tried everything
[09:57] <thomas> nutteruk: no prob
[09:59] <Severian> thomas, when you figure it out, I hope you'll add a wiki page for it.  It sounds like the information you need is elusive.
[09:59] <thomas> it is, its impossible
[09:59] <thomas> the only thing was an old xfree86 warty hack, which no longer works
[10:00] <glyn> how do I give write permissions to a partition I just created?
[10:00] <thomas> if you want to mount at startup
[10:01] <thomas> umask=000 in the options in fstab
[10:02] <NutterUK> hello
[10:02] <ayngelman> hello
[10:02] <ayngelman> got to go now, just a quick look.  first time user of ubuntu.  very exciting
[10:03] <ayngelman> be back again for sure. :)
[10:03] <thomas> nutteruk: in linux now?
[10:03] <NutterUK> thomas: yes
[10:04] <NutterUK> whats the must have package for linux?
[10:04] <Severian> I know.  I know.   The kernel.
[10:05] <rixth> What is a command line program to get info about your hardware? (User readable- so not lspci)
[10:05] <BlueEagl1> nutteruk: About your printer the obvious recomendation based on the wiki is to email support at lexmark and ask them when they will release linux drivers for their hardware. If they aren't planning on releasing them sue them for not printing "Will not work in linux" on the box (only works in the US though).
[10:05] <thomas> xine
[10:05] <thomas> dmesg
[10:05] <thomas> rixth: dmesg
[10:05] <thomas> nutteruk: xine
[10:05] <NutterUK> thomas:  ill try and get it now
[10:06] <Severian> rixth,  lsusb is handy if you want to know about usb devices.
[10:06] <rixth> thomas, I said human readable :) There was a command on my old Debian box. It would out put like Cpu..... 2.16ghz, RAM....... 512mb etc etc
[10:06] <NutterUK> BlueEagl1: Im in England so cant sue everyone like the US lolk
[10:06] <rixth> Also output how many bogomips
[10:06] <NutterUK> BlueEagl1: would love 2 sue them thou
[10:06] <BlueEagl1> nutteruk: I should have read that out of your nick, shouldn't I? :p
[10:07] <NutterUK> lol :)
[10:07] <NutterUK> BlueEagl1: you in the US then?
[10:07] <BlueEagle> nutteruk: No, I'm in Norway.
[10:07] <NutterUK> BlueEagle:  cool
[10:07] <Arinux> hey i got intel centrino , so which architecture does it belong
[10:07] <BlueEagle> nutteruk: cold
[10:08] <Severian> rixth, how about  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:08] <NutterUK> BlueEagle: I bet it is, uk is just as cold
[10:08] <Severian> Arinux, 686
[10:08] <Arinux> i am compiling the kernel , so which processor type should i give
[10:08] <rixth> Severian, thats what I'm looking for! Now one that gets totaly RAM
[10:09] <BlueEagle> rixth: free -mt
[10:09] <rixth> thanks!
[10:09] <Severian> rixth, how about  cat /proc/meminfo
[10:09] <rixth> even better!
[10:11] <aeon17x> Is enabling DMA a good idea?
[10:11] <odie5533> how do I restore the terminal menu if I have disabled it?
[10:11] <Severian> aeon17x, if your hardware is reliable that way, then yes.
[10:12] <thomas> aeon17x: if its supported, definately, I/O from the drive will be ALOT better
[10:13] <thomas> odie5533: right click on the terminal i think
[10:13] <aeon17x> I guess I'll look into the product specs then.
[10:13] <thomas> aeon17x: how old is the drive? Only very old drives dont' support it
[10:14] <Severian> thomas, some older motherboards "supported" it, but were unreliable.
[10:15] <dooglus> aagantuk: it sounds like the vlc repo depends on stuff that neither it nor the standard repos provide
[10:15] <glyn> what's that program for managing packages?  debsomething?
[10:16] <dooglus> Arinux: for a 686 kernel you need to set CONFIG_M686=y
[10:16] <Severian> glyn,    dpkg
[10:16] <dooglus> odie5533: what do you mean by "terminal menu"?
[10:17] <odie5533> dooglus: the file menu. thomas's answer answered it though
[10:17] <NutterUK> thomas: how do i install plugins so I can play mpg files?
[10:18] <aeon17x> thomas: I just acquired it within the past six months.
[10:18] <dooglus> odie5533: oh i see.  i didn't realise you could hide the menu bar.  how do you get it back?  right-click where
[10:18] <SkoZombie> there is a bug in libdevil for amd64 users, its reported on the debian bug tracker, should i report it on the ubuntu bugzilla as well?
[10:18] <dooglus> ?
[10:19] <glyn> no what's the program that lets you look at your packages and it tells you about them?
[10:19] <odie5533> dooglus, right click just in the terminal
[10:19] <odie5533> then goto edit current profile
[10:19] <Severian> ubotu, tell NutterUK about RestrictedFormats
[10:19] <dooglus> odie5533: oh, never mind, i see it.  there's "show menubar" in the main context menu
[10:19] <NutterUK> Severian: thanks
[10:20] <Digis> !skype
[10:20] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:20] <glyn> oh debfoster
[10:22] <glyn> how do I disable xdm and use gdm instead/
[10:22] <raphink> dpkg-reconfigure xdm
[10:22] <raphink> I think it shoudll ask you which one you want to use
[10:23] <aero> moo
[10:23] <thomas> aeon17x: the drive should be fine then, check the ubuntu guide to enable DMA
[10:23] <aero> i am such an ubuntu convert - its pretty awsome :)
[10:24] <thomas> nutteruk: for video codecs, download this ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0unofficialubuntu2_i386.deb then "sudo dpkg-i *.deb"
[10:24] <thomas> "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[10:24] <NutterUK> thomas:  thanks alot
[10:24] <Beleys> Yop
[10:25] <aero> hiho
[10:25] <dooglus> aero: what are your 3 favourite things about ubuntu?
[10:26] <aero> the fact that stuff works x3
[10:26] <raphink> dooglus: the three u
[10:26] <thomas> stable, fast, open source
[10:26] <aero> it breaks the cycle of install distro, get annoyed, format partition
[10:26] <aero> i first started linux with debian potato
[10:26] <aero> ages ago
[10:26] <raphink> ooo
[10:26] <aero> but sound and gfx was a nightmare
[10:26] <aero> suse, mandrake, knoppix, all suck :)
[10:27] <aero> a lot of it has to do with non-ubuntu specifics
[10:27] <thomas> when i install mandriva 2005, it came without a C compiler
[10:27] <aero> like a more developed kernel usb support etc
[10:27] <raphink> aero: knoppix is not to install
[10:27] <aero> i mean, my usb mouse scroll wheel works! :)
[10:27] <dooglus> thomas: when you install breezy it comes without a c compiler too...
[10:28] <raphink> yes thomas you have to install the C compiler on mandriva
[10:28] <thomas> but mandriva didn't have apt-get
[10:28] <aero> who needs compilers with apt-get :P (yes, i know you probably want it)
[10:28] <thomas> anyway, mandriva is not a good starting distro
[10:29] <wickedpuppy> thomas, mandriva is a very good distro ... for those who like it
[10:29] <thomas> not as good as ubuntu ;)
[10:29] <verden01> yeah but thats just an opinion
[10:30] <verden01> myself i like debian based distro's
[10:30] <wickedpuppy> thomas, mandriva uses rpm .. its redhat based
[10:30] <thomas> i know, i used it
[10:30] <daaku> what kernel should i use for AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Venice)? amd64-generic or amd64-k8?
[10:30] <Severian> Mandriva, with the Penguin Liberation Front repository added is pretty nice.  It is not as good as Ubuntu, but I would not mind using it.
[10:30] <dooglus> thomas: mandriva has "urpmi" - it's the same as "apt-get install" pretty much, only shorter to type
[10:31] <thomas> as i said, not a good starting distro
[10:31] <verden01> hmm i have ubuntu amd64 installed now whats the command in a konsole to find out my kernel?
[10:31] <thomas> IMO
[10:32] <wickedpuppy> verden01, uname -r
[10:32] <daaku> verden01: uname -a
[10:32] <dooglus> thomas: i don't know.  it's not so very different from ubuntu really.  it's rpm based, not debian, but beginners wouldn't know what that means anyway
[10:32] <verden01> ahhh  thanx
[10:32] <aftertaf> dooglus> thomas i have used mdk 10.1 and i found it a loooot slower to update than deb based dsitros
[10:33] <thomas> oh, i've another question
[10:33] <verden01> daaku: this is my kernel  2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[10:33] <dooglus> I used mandrake for a year or so.  v9, v10, 2005LE.  I stopped using it when I got banned from their IRC channel.
[10:33] <daaku> seems like amd64-k8 would be the right choice for athlon64, but dont wanna get the wrong kernel (kinda new to the x64 stuff)
[10:33] <aftertaf> thomas> not a good starting distro. i agree. too much hidden from user to help learn how it works. ubuntu isnt like this, it simplifies, but lets you use the full power of debian if you want/know how to.
[10:33] <daaku> verden01: cool, thanks
[10:33] <wickedpuppy> dooglus, thats a big LOL
[10:33] <verden01> i'm running an AMD64 3500+
[10:34] <dooglus> wickedpuppy: without IRC support a distro becomes a lot less useful
[10:34] <wickedpuppy> dooglus, man man :P
[10:34] <thomas> i've got a pc downstairs running ubuntu 5.10 with a HP deskjet 930c, and up here i've got kubuntu 5.10 (well, ubuntu with kde installed), how do i share the printer? The pcs are on the same network
[10:34] <dooglus> wickedpuppy: I'm still banned, last time I checked.  I mentioned a bug in there.  One of the ops told me it wasn't a bug.  I proved it was so he banned me for showing him up in public  :)
[10:35] <wickedpuppy> dooglus, start the flamewar on mailing list ... irc is nothing when you can email to every dev they got
[10:35] <verden01> gee thats pretty small thinking just because he was proven wrong!!
[10:36] <wickedpuppy> how many ubuntu dev here ... not much ... on mailing list .. thats assured 100% attention ... including mark shuttleworth
[10:36] <daaku> thomas: you wanna have a look at cups. iirc, there's http based sharing which is sort of easy to setup and efficient.. try http://localhost:631 to admin cups
[10:37] <dooglus> verden01: well, he had bet me "a ton of money" that it wasn't a bug, too...  so I guess there was more than just his pride at stake
[10:37] <thomas> daaku: yeah, i've got some kind of menu
[10:37] <verden01> oh  lol
[10:38] <crimsun> wickedpuppy: a fair number idle here, but the dev channel is used more.
[10:38] <thomas> daaku: and i can see the printer downstairs from here
[10:38] <aero> quick question - how do i detatch a program from a terminal, to get back later using fg
[10:38] <daaku> thomas: so i guess you're already set :)
[10:38] <dooglus> aero: control-z
[10:39] <thomas> daaku: oh wait, thats just a printer i tried to get working, the pc downstiars is off
[10:39] <aero> ta
[10:39] <dooglus> aero: but if you don't know about "screen", get to know it.  it's amazing :)
[10:39] <aero> yeah screen is good :)
[10:39] <aero> especially with bitchx :)
[10:39] <dooglus> aero: once you know screen you don't need control-z any more...  just make a new screen and leave the other one running
[10:39] <dooglus> aero: irssi is the new bitchx :)
[10:40] <aero> pfft :)
[10:40] <aero> anyway, im installing mirc
[10:40] <aero> just need to get the link working
[10:40] <verden01> i have ubuntu installed and have added kde and kde games and i must say its a great distro
[10:41] <aeronic> hmm, mirc :)
[10:41] <aeronic> tis good :)
[10:41] <daaku> thomas: i havent used printer sharing in a while, but iirc, setup the printer on the downstairs machine with System->Administration->Printers, and then on the PC setup a new network printer using IPP and the downstairs pc ip and printer name
[10:41] <verden01> its been a while since i used ubuntu
[10:41] <NutterUK> www.badgerbadgerbadger.com rocks
[10:41] <fulsic> can someone help me with mplayer? for some reason, it's "broken" in the Synaptic Package Manager, and apt-get tells me that the installation has no candidate
[10:42] <thomas> whats the printer name?
[10:42] <thomas> i haven't set one downstairs
[10:42] <thomas> fulsic: sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[10:42] <daaku> thomas: the printer name is what you set it to be
[10:42] <thomas> ok
[10:44] <davro> pats NutterUK on the head arrh what a happy nutter.
[10:44] <NutterUK> davro: thanks :)
[10:44] <daaku> thomas: http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.3.2/cups-59/doc/ipp.html#3_1 should be helpful
[10:44] <fulsic> thomas, ' Package mplayer-386 has no installation candidate' after running sudo apt-get update
[10:45] <thomas> thanks
[10:45] <verden01> fulsic do you have the universe repositories enabled ......   just a thought
[10:45] <aftertaf> fulsic> do you have universe & multiverse?
[10:45] <fulsic> verden01, aftertaf; both those repositories are enabled
[10:45] <verden01> well maybe do an update
[10:45] <aftertaf> fulsic> mmm. have ou run sudo apt-get update since?
[10:45] <fulsic> i'll go double check, but they were about 10 mins ago
[10:45] <aftertaf> lol verden01  :)
[10:45] <verden01> lol
[10:46] <fulsic> yes, i did an update prior to coming here
[10:46] <daaku> anyone using the cheap SATA raid built into some recent motherboards? wondering what the performance gains are like..
[10:46] <zim> anyone know when the ubuntu site will be fixed :(
[10:46] <aero> ok, heres a question - how do i edit a link  on the gnome desktop - as in, the location it is meant to run
[10:46] <aero> daaku, pretty good
[10:47] <aero> if you have identical drives, abou ta 35-40% increase
[10:47] <daaku> aero: nice. very nice. i do have identical drives
[10:47] <verden01> well in synaptic go to broken in the tab in the custom tab and see waht it says
[10:47] <daaku> aero: i was hoping the fake in fakeRAID on the wiki wasnt taking about the performance
[10:48] <daaku> zim: some parts are still working fine. the wiki for instance
[10:48] <sexcopter8000m> hi, can someone check me on my terminology please. is X a "windows server" and kde, gnome, xfce etc "windows managers"?
[10:48] <zim> i need to download kubuntu BB
[10:49] <daaku> zim: BB?
[10:49] <raphink> BB ...
[10:49] <aero> daaku, fake means not hardware
[10:49] <dooglus> aero: how did you run mirc?
[10:50] <aero> using wine
[10:50] <dooglus> ooh.
[10:50] <aero> from the terminal
[10:50] <aero> but, i want a desktop link
[10:50] <dooglus> I find that wine never works for me
[10:50] <aero> the one it gave me didnt work
[10:50] <dooglus> I use win4lin
[10:50] <aero> oh
[10:50] <daaku> aero: i know, just made me doubt the performance aspect of it :)
[10:51] <verden01> fulsic, in synaptic on the bottom left corner you have 4 tabs go to the tab that says "custom" and then up the top click on "broken" and see what it says
[10:51] <fulsic> verden01, nothing is in my 'Broken' menu
[10:51] <aero>  wine "c:\Program Files\mIRC\mirc.exe"
[10:51] <aero> how do i put that in a link?
[10:51] <Phil|VM> Hey Guys
[10:51] <verden01> hmmmmm...  how about in a terminal type sudo apt-get install -f ......  just a guess
[10:52] <fulsic> verden01, 0 updated, 0 new
[10:52] <verden01> hey   fulsic i'm not sure that is th eright command
[10:52] <fulsic> oh
[10:52] <daaku> aero: could just make a shell script and +x it
[10:52] <dooglus> aero: that works, really?
[10:53] <fulsic> verden01, i know there's sudo apt-get -f, which i used before, but that didn't seem to get mplayer downloadable either
[10:53] <Seveas> !mplayer
[10:53] <ubotu> hmm... mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:53] <aero> dooglus,  - sure it does
[10:53] <tucoz> sexcopter8000m, I think that X handles the basic functionality of a GUI like mouse, screen etc. KDE is a desktop environment with all that means. Kwin is the window manager for kde.
[10:53] <Phil|VM> you guys know where to get w32codecs
[10:54] <raphink> !w32codecs
[10:54] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).  For 64-bit read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[10:54] <verden01> well i just went to d/l mplayer64 in synaptic and everything here is ok   yu omust have some dependency problem???
[10:54] <Phil|VM> i have no knowledge of ubuntu at all, i've just loaded up the live cd, i bought a system to use for linux, bit it isn't here yet :/
[10:54] <raphink> grml
[10:54] <sexcopter8000m> tucoz, thanks
[10:54] <raphink> ubotu: tell Phil|VM about w32codecs
[10:55] <fulsic> verden01, ok then, so how do i fix this dependency problem? i thought apt-get will download dependencies automatically
[10:55] <tucoz> sexcopter8000m, read more on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_window_system and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kde for instance
[10:56] <dooglus> aero: what does wine do about the registry?  does it have its own?
[10:56] <verden01> well i only know so much....  sorry    you could check to see if all the repositories are enabled again and hmmm...... hope someone else has an idea
[10:56] <aero> has its own
[10:56] <Phil|VM> raphink, thanks :)
[10:57] <daaku> verden01: you using a geforce by any chance? wondering what the 64bit support of the nvidia drivers is like
[10:57] <fulsic> verden01, thanks for your help
[10:57] <raphink> you're welcome Phil|VM
[10:57] <dooglus> aero: do you have to set anything up to get it working?
[10:57] <aero> just winecfg
[10:58] <aero> which seems to consist of not a lot
[10:58] <aero> its improved vastly since years ago
[10:58] <verden01> fulsic its been a while since i've used ubuntu so i'm a bit rusty with it
[10:58] <aeronic> right
[10:58] <Phil|VM> raphink, do you mind if i pm you for a minute
[10:58] <aeronic> got that link working
[10:58] <dooglus> aah, well I just downloaded mirc using IE in win4lin, then installed and ran it using win4lin
[10:58] <raphink> sure do Phil|VM
[10:59] <Phil|VM> oh ok
[10:59] <aeronic> ew? IE ?
[10:59] <dooglus> then I tried "wine mirc.exe" and it works - and what's more it remembered the settings I told it in win4lin
[10:59] <verden01> fulsic, what part of Aust you from ?  I'm from Adelaide
[10:59] <aeronic> i even use firefox on windows
[10:59] <lord_rob> Hi ! Is it possible to use ubuntu installer to install debian sid directly ?
[10:59] <Phil|VM> i'm From Coffs Harbor
[10:59] <verden01> hey i'm using firefox 1.5 on windows
[10:59] <bungle> Phil|VM,
[10:59] <bungle> I am from coffs harbour to
[10:59] <Phil|VM> serious
[10:59] <aeronic> and i'm using it on ubuntu :)
[11:00] <bungle> bello actually
[11:00] <Phil|VM> oh cool
[11:00] <bungle> lol
[11:00] <Phil|VM> you go to uni here ?
[11:00] <verden01> Coffs Harbour     great place
[11:00] <doogless> hmmm.  wine looks a bit messed up.  the _ O and X buttons in the top right all look like squares to me.  you too?
[11:00] <aeronic> indeed they do :)
[11:00] <raphink> Phil|VM: you need to be registered to PM here now
[11:00] <Phil|VM> ahh ok
[11:00] <dooglus> I typed "/quit" - it says here that the client quit, but the wine window didn't close.
[11:00] <bungle> lol
[11:00] <Phil|VM> authserv or nickserv ?
[11:00] <raphink> nickserv
[11:01] <bungle> nick
[11:01] <Arinux> horray i compiled the new kernel
[11:01] <aeronic> hmm, is it possible to have like a taskbar to minimise apps to
[11:01] <aeronic> dooglus, works here
[11:01] <bungle> nah dont go to chec
[11:01] <bungle> got some friends that do though
[11:01] <Arinux> the vanilla rocks
[11:01] <verden01> i used to use a distro called Libranet and they had a thing called Adminmenu and you could compile a kernel easily
[11:02] <aftertaf> Arinux> what you do thats special in your kernel?
[11:02] <dooglus> Arinux: how is the vanilla kernel any different?
[11:02] <ilidan> ???
[11:03] <Phil|VM> ah cool bungle
[11:03] <Phil|VM> so you work  ?
[11:03] <bungle> erm
[11:03] <bungle> 2 kids
[11:03] <Phil|VM> ahh cool
[11:03] <Phil|VM> i don't work either
[11:03] <bungle> lol
[11:04] <Phil|VM> ;)
[11:04] <Arinux> i played with some memory architecture
[11:04] <bungle> what you do normally
[11:04] <bungle> .. smoke drink be boring ?
[11:04] <Arinux> and 686 works awsome for my laptop
[11:04] <Arinux> plus write permission on ntfs
[11:04] <aftertaf> write perms? real ones?
[11:05] <aftertaf> Arinux> or those that let you write, but only if nothing is modified? ;)
[11:05] <dooglus> Arinux: there is an official 686 kernel for ubuntu.  and writing NTFS isn't safe still
[11:05] <aftertaf> i double agree with dooglus
[11:06] <dooglus> although the -ck kernel patches look interesting
[11:06] <dooglus> http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/
[11:07] <Arinux> well let me try on this
[11:07] <aftertaf> the ubuntu team use patches on the vanilla kernel for god reasons too, right? is there any real advantage to doing your own kpkg now?
[11:07] <verden01> raphink, how do i register?
[11:07] <aftertaf> *good
[11:07] <dooglus> Arinux: be careful with your NTFS writing.  you can seriously destroy NTFS partitions
[11:07] <Chousuke> aftertaf: if you really want your own kernel. :p
[11:07] <Arinux> okay roger hey i got one more problem
[11:07] <raphink> verden01: /msg nickserv register passwd email
[11:07] <raphink> I think
[11:07] <dooglus> Arinux:  don't try writing to a partition you would miss
[11:08] <Arinux> when i go to device manager my processor ettc ate still unknown
[11:08] <raphink> verden01: type /msg nickserv help register
[11:08] <dooglus> aftertaf: I made my own kernel this morning - win4lin needs some kernel patches in order to work
[11:08] <koen_> I've been unable to drag thing using my mousepad ever since I did an update a couple of weeks ago. What might be causing this?
[11:08] <koen_> s/thing/things
[11:09] <dooglus> aftertaf: but I took the ubuntu kernel source package and applied the win4lin patches to that.  luckily they applied cleanly
[11:09] <verden01> raphink, in here or in ubuntu servers?
[11:09] <app> I try to dpkg -i skype on my fresh breezy, but it complains about missing packages. Synaptic does not find skype. What to do?
[11:10] <thomas> oh, i've got two 30gb partitions, linux recognises them as fat32, but parition magic recognises them as ext2 and fat32, and windows calls them fat32 and "unknown partition"
[11:10] <Arinux> hey any body installed intel915 drivers?
[11:10] <verden01>  /msg nickserv help register
[11:11] <Phil|VM> is breezy64 difficult to maintain ?
[11:11] <thomas> app: download the rpm version of skype then alien it
[11:11] <dooglus> koen_: I suspect the touchpad driver is failing to load.  basic touchpad functionality works without the driver, but dragging doesn't
[11:11] <pepsi> whats the command to see info about my ram?
[11:11] <dooglus> app: try the 'static' skype package.  works for me.
[11:11] <pepsi> its a simple two-letter command i believe
[11:11] <Phil|VM> i bought a sempron64 and i'm wondering if it would be wise to run it on it instead of the i386
[11:12] <verden01> Phil|VM, i'm using breezy x64 and find it ok
[11:12] <dooglus> pepsi: "free"?
[11:12] <koen_> dooglus: pardon my ignorance, but how do I check whether it's loaded correcly?
[11:12] <pepsi> dooglus, that works :) thanks.. surely thats what i was thinking of
[11:12] <Phil|VM> verden01, what processor have you got
[11:12] <dooglus> koen_: check the logfile: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:13] <drakeoutlaw> pepsi: try free -m to see in megabytes
[11:13] <verden01> amd64 3500+
[11:13] <dooglus> koen_: I'm not exactly sure what bit of that you're looking at though...
[11:14] <Arinux> brb guys
[11:14] <Phil|VM> yeah, verden01 i've only got a sempron64 2600
[11:14] <Phil|VM> so i'm not sure how great it would run
[11:14] <Phil|VM> i've bought that and 2 17inch lcd monitors
[11:15] <aeronic> 'only'
[11:15] <pepsi> drakeoutlaw, thanks :)
[11:15] <app> Is it a policy at Ubuntu that software like Skype is not officially supported, not even in Multiverse?
[11:15] <bungle> :P i just bought a sempron 2600
[11:15] <aeronic> ive got a k7 1500mhz :P
[11:15] <bungle> stupid 300mhz gave me the **************8
[11:15] <Phil|VM> they're cheap as, its great
[11:15] <Phil|VM> dunno how the performance is
[11:15] <bungle> dont game so I dont care
[11:15] <dooglus> !skype
[11:15] <ubotu> somebody said skype was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:15] <Phil|VM> but they seem like a good bang for your buck processor
[11:15] <bungle> anything is better than the 300
[11:15] <verden01> Phil|VM, are they 64 bit now?
[11:15] <koen_> dooglus, the driver appears to be loaded though: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3976
[11:15] <Phil|VM> yeah :)
[11:16] <Phil|VM> socket 754 some are
[11:16] <Nihil85> hallo
[11:16] <Marlowe> pepsi: free + vmstat
[11:16] <Marlowe> pepsi: top even
[11:16] <app> !skype
[11:16] <ubotu> skype is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:16] <Nihil85> i need to view my ntfs HD. how can i do this? i cannot find fstab!
[11:16] <pepsi> top is too complicated :) free is nice and simple
[11:16] <verden01> PHIl cool
[11:16] <pepsi> i like vmstat too
[11:17] <MachineScrew> how can I set File mime types in GNOME
[11:17] <aeronic> Nihil85, theres a howto
[11:17] <nadjyla> Nihil85, on breezy, there is a new tools to do that quick
[11:17] <pepsi> Marlowe, i just forgot how much ram i had installed..  :)
[11:17] <dooglus> koen_: compare and contrast: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3977
[11:17] <verden01> mines a socket 939
[11:17] <aeronic> skype is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:17] <aeronic> <N
[11:17] <aeronic> doh, sorry
[11:17] <Nihil85> nadjyla, what's the name of this tool?
[11:17] <MachineScrew> i have a m4v extiontion that I always need to asoicate with Totem
[11:17] <aeronic> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs <- or use that
[11:18] <Nihil85> aeronic, i cannot find any howto
[11:18] <aeronic> see up
[11:18] <drakeoutlaw> Nihil85: sudo nautilus. so you can browse as superuser
[11:18] <nadjyla> Nihil85, i think : disks-admin
[11:18] <nadjyla> with su or sudo
[11:18] <dooglus> koen_: someone had this problem a few weeks ago.  he had an ALPS pad too...  we didn't get to the bottom of the problem either.
[11:18] <Marlowe> pepsi: then top should do nicely
[11:18] <nadjyla> and you can mount or umount your ntfs dik easely
[11:19] <daaku> anyone know how to get grub working with fakeRAID? i'm trying to get the root partion setup for grub (its 256mb), but it keeps saying selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS
[11:19] <koen_> dooglus: damn, that's a pity
[11:19] <Nihil85> drakeoutlaw, can I query you?
[11:19] <MachineScrew> how can I set File mime types in GNOME
[11:19] <koen_> dooglus: it's weird though since it has been working nicely for quite a while
[11:19] <pepsi> Marlowe, oh i see.. it says the total right there doesnt it :)\
[11:20] <dooglus> koen_: apparently there's a patch for ALPS pads...  I'll see if I can find it
[11:20] <Madpilot> can someone recommend a favourite music tag editor?
[11:20] <pepsi> ok heres another one.. how can i make an iso? :)
[11:20] <dooglus> koen_: a few days ago: 14:12 < hume> i'm trying to get my ALPS topuchpad working, trying to apply the apls patch from xorg-driver-synaptics - but get error msgs.  It says alsp.c alreay exists, and then Hunk #1 Failed, anyogot advice?
[11:20] <nadjyla> Madpilot, easytag is good
[11:20] <Ng> Madpilot: I use easytag or cantus. They have pretty complex interfaces though ;)
[11:21] <pepsi> !iso
[11:21] <ubotu> pepsi: No idea
[11:21] <pepsi> :(
[11:21] <MachineScrew> how can I set File mime types in GNOME
[11:22] <thomas> pepsi: use k3b
[11:22] <pepsi> just to make an iso file from a cd?
[11:22] <drakeoutlaw> pepsi: mkisofs command is the command line way
[11:22] <Ng> pepsi: if it's just a data cd/dvd you can use dd in a terminal ;)
[11:23] <Madpilot> pepsi: do you mean "how do I burn an ISO I've downloaded" or "how do I create a new ISO file?"
[11:23] <pepsi> i need to make a new iso file so i can use a cd in vmware without it being ridiculously slow :)
[11:23] <dooglus> koen_: this looks promising: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78904
[11:23] <Ng> pepsi: you want to make an iso from a real cd? "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/cd.iso"
[11:23] <Tokenizer> how would i bind the keyboard volume buttons to the system volume? right now, the volume buttons on the keyboard will make a little dialogue box open with some slider showing volume going up and down, but no volume changes... where can i go to set these keys actually bind to my sound card?
[11:23] <pepsi> Ng, oh :)
[11:24] <koen_> dooglus: wow, thanks, I'll go and try that
[11:24] <Marlowe> pepsi: from 'man mkisofs':  mkisofs  takes a snapshot of a given directory tree, and generates a binary image which will correspond to an ISO9660 or HFS filesystem when writ
[11:25] <Marlowe>        ten to a block device.
[11:25] <pepsi> yeah, but i just want to copy the cd byte for byte
[11:25] <pepsi> i think dd is what i want
[11:25] <Madpilot> Ng: you weren't kidding about easytag's interface... the Help file had better be good!
[11:25] <Marlowe> oh then dd is good
[11:25] <dooglus> koen_: it's a long thread.  maybe worth reading the whole thing first (not that I have)
[11:26] <koen_> dooglus: thanks a lot for your help :)
[11:26] <Arinux> hey all i am abck
[11:26] <drakeoutlaw> pepsi: read the cd writing howto in tldp.org cause there maybe a padding issue
[11:26] <Marlowe> pleased to meet you abck
[11:26] <Arinux> hey can anyone tell me how do i check whether 3d acceleration is enabled
[11:26] <pepsi> hrm
[11:26] <nadjyla> Arinux, runa game
[11:26] <thomas> glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[11:27] <thomas> and tell us what FPS you get arinux
[11:27] <Arinux> i don't have a single game installed
[11:27] <nadjyla> get wolf et
[11:27] <thomas> arinux, in terminal run glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[11:28] <pepsi> lol
[11:28] <pepsi> is that serious?
[11:28] <thomas> yes
[11:28] <Ng> yep
[11:28] <pepsi> heh
[11:28] <Ng> it's a bit dumb, but they make a good point ;)
[11:28] <nadjyla> lol
[11:29] <app> The wiki page mentioned in !skype does not exist... It is searchable but still gives 404!
[11:29] <sexcopter8000m> to install a .deb file, is it sudo dpkg -i thedeb.deb?
[11:29] <Arinux> Thomas:i get that screensaver in a small window
[11:29] <Ng> sexcopter8000m: yes
[11:29] <nadjyla> yes
[11:29] <MachineScrew> how can I set File mime types in GNOME
[11:29] <sexcopter8000m> kk
[11:29] <thomas> arinux: yeah, leave it run for ten seconds, then close the window and see whats printed in the terminal
[11:30] <Ng> MachineScrew: if you right click on the file you are interested in changing the handler for and go to the "Open With" tab you are effectively editing the behaviour for that mime type
[11:30] <Arinux> 765.784 fps
[11:30] <thomas> yup
[11:30] <thomas> arinux: 3d acelleration is enabled
[11:30] <pepsi> app, i installed skype a while ago.. they give you a .deb that you can download
[11:30] <pepsi> works fine
[11:30] <MachineScrew> Ng, it isn't reconised
[11:30] <thomas> arinux: do sudo apt-get install tuxracer, then run "ppracer" and see does it run smoothly
[11:31] <Arinux> thomas: i got an intel915 onboard , how do i see where its detected
[11:31] <MachineScrew> Ng, I have to specify what app to open with
[11:31] <thomas> arinux: try glxinfo
[11:31] <MachineScrew> Ng, the file type is m4v
[11:31] <thomas> glxinfo| direct
[11:31] <Boobek> hi
[11:31] <Ng> MachineScrew: you probably want to open that with Totem or maybe Xine/Mplayer if you prefer them
[11:32] <Arinux> glex info gives me a table of some sort
[11:32] <thomas> arinux: scroll back up to the top, and see if "direct rendering" = yes
[11:32] <nadjyla> MachineScrew, try m4v with vlc
[11:32] <MachineScrew> Ng, i get new files frequently though and I need to be permenint
[11:32] <MachineScrew> nadjyla, I use totem and its fine
[11:33] <Arinux> yes
[11:33] <Arinux> but i what about the intel915
[11:33] <MachineScrew> nadjyla, gstreamer is fine just have to set the default audio device to alsa instead of ESD
[11:33] <alsoos> Can any body help me please?
[11:33] <app> pepsi, the deb skype package complains about missing packages on Breezy. The static binary works, but looks ugly. And I was wondering if there would be a more professional way... not tinkering with non-packaged  binaries...
[11:33] <thomas> arinux: what do you want to know about the intel915?
[11:33] <drakeoutlaw> mimetypes are in etc mailcap in standard linux distros
[11:33] <MachineScrew> but the problem is I want all future files to open
[11:34] <drakeoutlaw> i mean /etc/mailcap
[11:34] <Arinux> what about its drivers don't i have to install it?
[11:34] <thomas> arinux: if direct rendering is yes, they're already installed, you're ready to go
[11:35] <Arinux> okay so no need to look for latest drivers
[11:35] <MachineScrew> drakeoutlaw, yes but gnome has it in /usr/share/mime-info/gnome-vfs-mime-types
[11:35] <thomas> arinux: nope
[11:35] <MachineScrew> http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl5_gnome-vfs-mime.htm
[11:35] <nadjyla> MachineScrew,
[11:35] <nopea> anybody having probs with Ubuntu's site?
[11:35] <pepsi> app, are the packages it wants available?
[11:35] <nadjyla> i think for mime you can use bonobo-browser but not sure MachineScrew
[11:35] <Arinux> okay cool
[11:35] <Blixa> exit
[11:35] <MachineScrew> there used to be a way to edit mime properties and set icons for file types
[11:36] <nopea> trying to get 5.10 but the site is not working
[11:36] <MachineScrew> nadjyla, nope
[11:36] <MachineScrew> KDE has a way
[11:37] <silent_scream> morning all
[11:37] <Ng> MachineScrew: I just downloaded an m4v, set it to open with totem, downloaded another and it is already set to run with totem
[11:37] <MachineScrew> to do what I am talking about in konquer and gnome used to
[11:37] <Ng> so I think it works
[11:37] <silent_scream> how can i resize my  ubuntu partition? it s an ext3 filesystem
[11:37] <MachineScrew> Ng ok well thats good now to get the totem-thumbnail thingy to work
[11:38] <nadjyla> Silencer, for resize system partition, do it with a livecd
[11:38] <MachineScrew> Ng, is that possible
[11:38] <Marlowe> thomas: is there a package for hardware 3d on hoary for ATI, or do best I upgrade?
[11:38] <Ng> MachineScrew: I'm not sure
[11:39] <Ng> MachineScrew: it looks like they might be hardcoded, but I'm not sure
[11:39] <MachineScrew> well I will hunt down some docs for totem then if not I will e-mail the developer
[11:39] <Madpilot> Marlowe: there are ATI drivers on Hoary
[11:39] <Madpilot> !tell Marlowe about ati
[11:39] <aeronic> !tell aeronic about ati
[11:40] <Marlowe> cool - any clues to package name?
[11:40] <Madpilot> Marlowe: see the msg that ubotu just sent you; that's got all the details you need
[11:40] <alsoos> Can any one help me in Ubuntu please
[11:41] <mmanns5860> alsoos, whats your problem?
[11:41] <Madpilot> alsoos: please just ask your question...
[11:41] <Marlowe> alsoos - don't ask for help - just leap in
[11:42] <alsoos> ok thank you
[11:42] <alsoos> i have windows server and i want to change it to Ubuntu.  Is there any special version for server
[11:43] <Madpilot> !+server
[11:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html
[11:43] <nadjyla> ubuntu is not very good for server. debian is better for server
[11:43] <Madpilot> alsoos: see ubotu above ^^^
[11:43] <bungle> bsd
[11:43] <mmanns5860> or try eisfair
[11:43] <bluefrog-10> alsoos, type server at install, i would recommend you though to install normal ubuntu
[11:43] <Ng> nadjyla: why would you say that?
[11:43] <alsoos> ok
[11:44] <Marlowe> Much thanks Madpilot / ubotu
[11:44] <Madpilot> alsoos: the server install has no GUI, it's all command line, just FYI...
[11:44] <alsoos> so it is very hard
[11:44] <oneshot> test
[11:44] <Marlowe> impolite question - is it true that hoary's more stable than breezy ?
[11:45] <alsoos> i have FTP SERVER and mail server also i have VPN
[11:45] <nadjyla> debian much stable for server
[11:45] <Madpilot> Marlowe: not that I've noticed...
[11:45] <alsoos> debian is GUI
[11:46] <Ng> nadjyla: why would you say that?
[11:46] <mmanns5860> Marlowe, I am using breezy and I see no problems
[11:46] <bluefrog-10> alsoos, install normal ubuntu and start your server from there, there won't be any problems
[11:46] <Madpilot> alsoos: the regular Ubuntu install uses Gnome, which is a great GUI, but the server install has no GUI - neither would a debian server, usually.
[11:46] <daaku> how do i get grub to generate the /boot/grub/stage1 file?
[11:46] <Ng> arguably no server should have a GUI
[11:47] <MachineScrew> Ng, if I run the command manualy it works
[11:47] <Marlowe> Ng/Madpilot - just saw some bitching about teething probs some were having
[11:47] <MachineScrew> Ng, totem-video-thumbnailer -s 64x64 Desktop/diggnation--0018--2005-10-26--small.m4v gstreamer
[11:48] <alsoos> OK
[11:48] <Ng> Marlowe: interesting. I've not really had any problems myself though
[11:48] <MachineScrew> Ng, mind you the out put was a png that was called gstreamer
[11:48] <Ng> Marlowe: yeah, that should work, the question is how nautilus knows to run that for any given file
[11:48] <Madpilot> Marlowe: the testing version of Breezy were pretty rocky sometimes - lots of changes - but the release version seems just as stable as Hoary was... and a fair bit faster
[11:48] <MachineScrew> Ng, but now i need nautilus to call that command and do it for me
[11:48] <alsoos> i have this file pureadmin-0.2.2.x86.packge.  How i can install it
[11:49] <BlueEagle> ng: Well, having a GUI is good for setting it up. The GUI doesn't need to run on a regular basis. You could argue space limitations on the harddrives, but with prices what they are it's a thin argument.
[11:49] <alsoos> soory for my question but iam not proffional in linux
[11:49] <Ng> BlueEagle: no, I would argue that not installing a GUI is the correct option for every server
[11:49] <aeronic> hi
[11:49] <Marlowe> cool - well, I'm a see if this worked
[11:49] <BlueEagle> ng: Why?
[11:49] <aeronic> anyone here had problems updateing java to 1.5 ?
[11:49] <aeronic> it says it has, but it aint :)
[11:50] <pepsi> aeronic, java for what? like applets in web pages?
[11:50] <zkl-laptop> alsoos, you can install ubuntu's pureadmin package: sudo apt-get install pureadmin
[11:50] <Ng> BlueEagle: because you have a *much* smaller footprint of installed code for one thing. Also the gui tools barely cover running a server, etc.
[11:50] <aeronic> no, as in the j2jre
[11:50] <pepsi> oh
[11:50] <pepsi> :)
[11:50] <aeronic> for azureus etc
[11:50] <pepsi> then i dunno :D, nevermind
[11:50] <aeronic> thanks tho
[11:51] <MachineScrew> why are the man pages not install by default
[11:51] <BlueEagle> ng: Well, I would argue that if you need a GUI you shouldn't be runnig a server. However a GUI like webmin does make some aspects of managing your server easier.
[11:51] <Subvertir> is there some easy way to configure print/file sharing with samba?
[11:52] <MachineScrew> BlueEagle, webmin alows a remote config so again you don't need a gui
[11:52] <Subvertir> I'd like to share my home directory and a printer with a win2k sp4 host, and it's like hell nah
[11:52] <BlueEagle> machinescrew: webmin is a GUI afaik.
[11:52] <BlueEagle> machinescrew: GUI !== X-server and gnome
[11:52] <MachineScrew> BlueEagle, its in a webbrowser
[11:53] <MachineScrew> BlueEagle, its like CUPS admin page
[11:53] <Subvertir> it's a Graphical User Iinterrface
[11:53] <MachineScrew> but for every thing
[11:53] <Ng> either way, webmin is rubbish ;)
[11:53] <drakeoutlaw> Subvertir: read "using samba" ebook on samba.org. It will tell you all you need to do
[11:53] <Subvertir> damn
[11:53] <Marlowe> Madpilot - the ATI package went much smoother than a few months back - 2000fps :D
[11:53] <MachineScrew> ya good for home server
[11:54] <Marlowe> well, more like 400 but still very nice
[11:54] <MachineScrew> somtime though I find the console to be much quicker than the gui
[11:54] <pepsi> heres an interesting one.. anyone know of a way to share a single keyboard and mouse among 2 computers, so that it acts like a 2nd monitor in a way? like if i move the cursor to the left, it will fall onto the other monitor
[11:54] <Subvertir> they complement each other
[11:54] <Subvertir> yeah
[11:54] <Subvertir> x2x
[11:54] <alsoos> Mr.zkl-laptop when i but the command i have "E: Couldn't find package pure
[11:54] <alsoos> "
[11:54] <Subvertir> pepsi, apt-get install x2x
[11:55] <Ng> pepsi: x2x or synergy
[11:55] <pepsi> interesting
[11:55] <MachineScrew> pepsi, look into synergy
[11:55] <BlueEagle> machinescrew: Sometimes it is much faster. However many configuration files are quite complex, and software like shorewall has got multiple configuration files. The administration of such a package is greatly helped by webmin imo.
[11:55] <BlueEagle> ...and as much as I'd love to continue this discussion I need to go now.
[11:55] <MachineScrew> BlueEagle, ya I get the point
[11:55] <MachineScrew> BlueEagle, I agree though
[11:56] <MachineScrew> BlueEagle, but again I used it in a browser long ago unless somthing changed it still is in a browser
[11:57] <odie5533> Anyone know why my data dvd's wont mount?
[11:57] <alsoos> What is the best version for server and Is it has GUI
[11:57] <bob2> no, real unix servers dont have guis
[11:57] <bob2> they have configuration files
[11:58] <MachineScrew> alsoos, hell they somtimes don't have monitors
[11:58] <pepsi> wow
[11:58] <odie5533> MachineScrew, most wouldn't... remote control
[11:58] <MachineScrew> alsoos, and if they do they are crapy
[11:58] <pepsi> synergy works with linux, osx, and windows
[11:58] <ompaul> s/sometimes/lots of times
[11:58] <aeon17x> MachineScrew: that's kinda pulling it...
[11:58] <dooglus> odie5533: they're scatched?  or dirty?  or corrupted?  or your drive is broken?
[11:59] <odie5533> dooglus, work fine on windows, and I just burnt one and it wont work
[11:59] <nuck> anyone know of a good ldap client (browser/editor)?
[11:59] <dooglus> odie5533: how are you mounting them?  and do you see anything in /var/log/* ?
[11:59] <MachineScrew> alsoos, there are some insecuritys involved with X windows to be on a server
[11:59] <odie5533> dooglus, lots of things in /var/log/ mounting manually and they wont automount
[11:59] <MachineScrew> alsoos, though I am not shure on the details
[11:59] <Marlowe> bob2 - try configuring veritas through the command line ;)
[11:59] <drakeoutlaw> alsoos; for your first server choose a distro like suselinux ver 10. it has gui tools. Once you have learned, switch off the gui
[11:59] <bob2> hah
[12:00] <MachineScrew> ya drakeoutlaw has the right idea
[12:00] <nuck> how secure is ubuntu 5.04?
[12:00] <Marlowe> damn secure
[12:00] <nadjyla> lol
[12:00] <drcode> hi all
[12:00] <bob2> nuck: very, since it has nothing listening on the network by default
[12:01] <Ng> nuck: there aren't any really good LDAP browsers. phpldapadmin isn't bad though
[12:01] <Marlowe> but the big deal with security is the package management - patching is a no brainer
[12:01] <MachineScrew> nuck, https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 go there
[12:01] <drcode> any one know about free housting?
[12:01] <indypende> hi all!
[12:01] <pepsi> like jousting? :)
[12:01] <alsoos> So if i install suselinux ver 10 it is work good for server?
[12:01] <bob2> drcode: this seems off-topic
[12:01] <MachineScrew> nuck, it will test how secure your Ubuntu is
[12:01] <bob2> drcode: try google
[12:01] <bob2> alsoos: #suse
[12:01] <indypende> someone using gnomebaker?
[12:01] <odie5533> Anyone know why my data dvd's wont mount?
[12:01] <bob2> alsoos: ubuntu is far less annoying to maintain, tho
[12:02] <bob2> odie5533: read your syslog
[12:02] <MachineScrew> nuck, default settings its awsome
[12:02] <drakeoutlaw> alsoos: you'll be just fine
[12:02] <Marlowe> alsoos - what are you running on this server?
[12:02] <nuck> Ng i know this isnt ldap channel but do you use gq? i just wanna be able to add a password in a hosts context but its disabled
[12:02] <ompaul> odie5533, have you tried a data CD ?
[12:02] <odie5533> ompaul, data cds work fine
[12:02] <Ng> nuck: I haven't used gq for a pretty long time
[12:02] <indypende> when i start burning something with gnomebaker the app freeze...
[12:02] <alsoos> FTP server and mail server also VPN
[12:03] <Marlowe> any linux distro can do that easily
[12:03] <indypende> with the other burnin' soft all it's ok!
[12:03] <nuck> MachineScrew i followed the  website its not gonna screw my machine eh?
[12:03] <Marlowe> just pick whichever you're happiest with
[12:03] <nuck> :-)
[12:03] <ompaul> odie5533, then I point at the data DVD
[12:03] <Madpilot> indypende: use k3b - gnomebaker freezes for me too...
[12:03] <Nihil85> i need an how-to to read and write in my ntfs HD. can anyone give me the link?
[12:03] <MachineScrew> nuck, naw
[12:03] <odie5533> ompaul, ?
[12:03] <bolrod> Nihil85: you dont want to do that
[12:03] <ompaul> odie5533, hte media
[12:03] <aeon17x> !tell Nihil85 -about windowsdrives
[12:03] <ompaul> odie5533, the media
[12:03] <MachineScrew> nuck, it probes the machine for vunirbilitys
[12:03] <drakeoutlaw> Nihil85: writing in ntfs is not a good idea.
[12:04] <Madpilot> indypende: or for data or ISO burning, just use Nautilus
[12:04] <odie5533> ompaul, the media works fine in windows, and some of the media I tested was just burnt
[12:04] <nuck> my only complaint about ubuntu it dpesnt have a power save feature like turn off monitor standy when not used for a certain period
[12:04] <MachineScrew> nuck, it targest most windows machines but its recomened in firestarter manule
[12:04] <indypende> Madpilot, thank tou much, always the best!
[12:04] <bob2> nuck: sure it does
[12:04] <aeon17x> nuck: it does.
[12:04] <Nihil85> drakeoutlaw, at least i need to read and to export some files from the ntfs HD to the EXT3 HD
[12:04] <bolrod> Nihil85: you can read just fine
[12:04] <aeon17x> nuck: System > Preferences > Screensaver > tweak the standby option.
[12:04] <bolrod> just dont try to write to ntfs
[12:05] <aeon17x> nuck: it's in the Advanced tab, by the way.
[12:05] <bolrod> you can mount it with the -t ntfs option
[12:05] <Marlowe> what's the best irc client?
[12:05] <MachineScrew> nuck, I have run it and I passed and thats with all sorts of stuff though I do have a router and that might make a difference
[12:05] <bolrod> I like console irc
[12:05] <alsoos> i run    FTP server and mail server also VPN
[12:05] <aeronic> Marlowe - mirc
[12:05] <bolrod> using irssi now.. but I may try bitchx
[12:05] <drakeoutlaw> the irc client in opera is way cool
[12:05] <ompaul> odie5533, get a dvd - any dvd even a film or music one - pop it in and see if it mounts
[12:06] <aeronic> heres a question for someone - how do you search for files in ubuntu
[12:06] <Ng> bolrod: irssi is far nicer than bitchx :)
[12:06] <Marlowe> right - off I go then - thx
[12:06] <odie5533> ompaul, just did, wont mount
[12:06] <bolrod> Ng: yes... though it cant remember the windows at all
[12:06] <bolrod> which numbers they have
[12:06] <Ng> bolrod: yes it can
[12:06] <bolrod> how?
[12:06] <MachineScrew> nuck, if you have multipule computers though to protect one computer from the next internaly you will want to run software firewall
[12:06] <odie5533> ompaul, and yes, it is a dvd drive ;)
[12:06] <Ng> bolrod: look at things like /layout save and stuff
[12:06] <bolrod> hmm... ok
[12:06] <nuck> ah i found it i see its turned on after 30 mins or so but thing is i have had my comp idle that long and i remember it shutting down but the battery was still used up
[12:07] <bolrod> cool
[12:07] <bolrod> :)
[12:07] <popey> ubuntu.com getting /.ed?
[12:07] <Marlowe> aeronic - man find - it's very powerful - locate can find things quicker though
[12:08] <odie5533> popey, yup
[12:08] <nuck> MachineScrew i think its gonna take a lot of time for now so i just added it to my bookmark for later
[12:08] <nuck> bob2 you still there?
[12:08] <ompaul> odie5533, pop a disk in and have this running in a terminal before you do, >>tail -f /var/log/syslog  <<
[12:08] <MachineScrew> nuck, it only takes about a few min on a broadband connection
[12:08] <Madpilot> popey: something is up there, yeah...
[12:09] <nuck> bob2: do you know how to tunnel through the ports in using the comp labs wireless so i can chat here while in the labs?
[12:09] <spike> mmmh, anybody experiencing instant crash of firefox on breezy with flash plugins?
[12:09] <pepsi> nuck, ssh to somewhere else
[12:09] <bob2> nuck: you could ssh back to your computer in your college
[12:09] <bob2> nuck: last I tried I could not ssh out of dcslabs at all
[12:09] <spike> I've tried both, flashplugin-mozilla, and flashplugin-nonfree
[12:09] <popey> Madpilot: first story on /. links directly to ubuntu.com
[12:09] <nuck> how's that? :-) what's an embarrased smiley?
[12:09] <spike> both are detected, and cause ff to crash instantly
[12:10] <odie5533> ompaul, it filled the screen before I popped the disk in
[12:10] <popey> just arrived, so lots of clicking
[12:10] <spike> hey ompaul!
[12:10] <odie5533> ompaul, and now it isnt doing anything (the terminal)
[12:10] <pepsi> bob2, howsabout telnet? :)
[12:10] <zim> hi all a dd Q will dd work to backup windows ntfs partions?
[12:10] <stelki> Hello, am I the only one experiencing problems with connecting to Ubuntu.com?
[12:10] <spike> no, it's currently slashdotted
[12:10] <ompaul> hi spike
[12:10] <nuck> bob2 pepsi so to do that i have to have 2 computers right?
[12:10] <stelki> spike, thanks.
[12:10] <bolrod> heh ?
[12:10] <bob2> zim: it will copy any data, yes
[12:11] <MachineScrew> stelki, have you tried ubuntulinux.org
[12:11] <bob2> nuck: one in the lab, one outside it, yes
[12:11] <spike> ompaul: how's u?
[12:11] <odie5533> ompaul, any ideas?
[12:11] <nuck> but the quota it will use is the wireless labs?
[12:11] <stelki> MachineScrew, that does not load for me either, see: I need a mirror for the latest install iso
[12:11] <MachineScrew> hmm one sec then
[12:11] <ompaul> odie5533, well if it not saying anything when you pop in the DVD then its not seeing the media - so maybe you have a hardware issue but without physical access no other ideas
[12:11] <bob2> nuck: for irc? no...
[12:12] <ompaul> spike, take it private :)
[12:12] <odie5533> ompaul, it said a lot of things before I popped it in. Nothing after
[12:12] <odie5533> ompaul, should I try a plain cd and see if it says anything?
[12:12] <ompaul> odie5533, go for it
[12:13] <odie5533> ompaul, the plain cd mounted fine, and the thing still isnt saying anything
[12:13] <odie5533> 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' ?
[12:13] <ompaul> that is it
[12:13] <zim> bob2 if I have 2 10GB  partiotions hda1 hda2 install win$hit on hda1 get it all as it should be drivers etc the dd it hda2 will hda2 boot from grub ?
[12:14] <nadjyla> dont understand
[12:14] <ompaul> odie5533, if it is not showing anything then you have a problem I do not know what to do next with
[12:14] <nuck> im starting to like ubuntu over windows
[12:14] <ompaul> spike, do you not read private messages any more?
[12:14] <stelki> MachineScrew, I found one on dotsrc.org, thanks for the help
[12:14] <odie5533> My syslog thing seems to have stopped at 2 am... i see nothing in it after 2 am and its currently 5 am
[12:15] <MachineScrew> stelki, ok
[12:15] <bastilian> I need help!!!
[12:15] <MachineScrew> stelki, I am also having trouble connecting to it
[12:15] <bob2> zim: dd will copy each bit fro mthe source and copy it to the destination, yes
[12:15] <zim> anyone: if I have 2 10GB  partiotions hda1 hda2 install win$hit on hda1 get it all as it should be drivers etc the dd it hda2 will hda2 boot from grub ?
[12:15] <MachineScrew> bastilian, what do you need
[12:15] <bob2> zim: grub is unlikely to like finding itself on a new partition
[12:15] <ompaul> odie5533, df -h and put the output into paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:15] <bolrod> bastilian: wow... you do
[12:15] <stelki> MachineScrew, okay, silly slashdot :-)
[12:15] <ompaul> !tell bastilian about ask
[12:15] <bolrod> no... HE needs help
[12:16] <bolrod> no?
[12:16] <bastilian> In the usermanagement, i set that i can't perform admin tasks...
[12:16] <bastilian> how do i change this?
[12:16] <odie5533> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3978
[12:16] <bolrod> bastilian: ?...
[12:16] <bolrod> bastilian: log in as root
[12:16] <bolrod> :)
[12:16] <MachineScrew> bastilian, first are you the only user
[12:16] <bastilian> yes
[12:17] <bastilian> i tried to perform wih root as user, but it doesn't work
[12:17] <MachineScrew> bastilian, ok well you need to go to system admin the users and groups
[12:17] <MachineScrew> bastilian, did you do su or sudo -i
[12:17] <bastilian> i cant perform this without sudo rights,or?
[12:18] <bolrod> you can't do sudo?
[12:18] <bolrod> are you in /etc/sudoers
[12:18] <bolrod> ?
[12:18] <ompaul> odie5533, no idea at all sorry, I was hoping you had run out of space for /var but that is not the case
[12:18] <MachineScrew> bastilian, you have to do sudo -i or sudo -s that will get you the same as su
[12:18] <odie5533> ompaul, no i did, but I made more room
[12:19] <odie5533> I had accidently filled the hd, then I deleted some things
[12:19] <bastilian> no i'm not in sudoers and i can't change it, or is there a way?
[12:19] <ompaul> odie5533, what type of things did you delete?
[12:19] <MachineScrew> bastilian, neather am I but hey it works
[12:19] <odie5533> video files. Large ones
[12:19] <MachineScrew> bastilian, can you do sudo ?
[12:20] <bastilian> no
[12:20] <apokryphos> bastilian: you're not the first user then
[12:20] <MachineScrew> ok the what we need to do is reboot and boot into failsafe
[12:20] <MachineScrew> bastilian, apokryphos is right
[12:21] <odie5533> ompaul, anyway to restart the system logger?
[12:21] <bolrod> MachineScrew: wont it ask for root password
[12:21] <MachineScrew> bastilian, the user that was created during install is the user
[12:21] <MachineScrew> bolrod, nope
[12:21] <bolrod> hmm
[12:21] <bolrod> where is the config where the initial user is set?
[12:22] <MachineScrew> bolrod, not shure
[12:22] <bolrod> I thought I saw it once
[12:22] <bastilian> how do i start in filesafe mode?
[12:22] <bolrod> but that maybe in sudo'ers
[12:22] <apokryphos> bolrod: the first user's UID is 1000
[12:22] <bolrod> apokryphos: I know
[12:22] <bolrod> but I saw a config file where it was written who the initial user was
[12:23] <MachineScrew> reboot and hit esc when the grub count down begins
[12:23] <bastilian> ok
[12:23] <ompaul>  /etc/init.d/sysklogd restart
[12:23] <apokryphos> bolrod: the first user is made a member of the admin group -- check sudoers. Admin group has sudo powers
[12:23] <ompaul> odie5533,  /etc/init.d/sysklogd restart
[12:23] <odie5533> it failed
[12:23] <bolrod> apokryphos: ah... I removed myself from sudoers
[12:23] <bastilian> recovery mode?
[12:24] <MachineScrew> bastilian yes
[12:24] <apokryphos> bolrod: well, you were never explicitly in sudoers. Only the admin group is declared. Though, it would be a pretty silly thing to remov eit
[12:24] <bastilian> and log in as root?
[12:24] <ompaul> odie5533, I do not know what you removed so I think I may not be of much use to you
[12:24] <bolrod> apokryphos: aha
[12:24] <MachineScrew> bastilian, you shouldn't have to log in
[12:24] <odie5533> erm im gonna go restart my pc then
[12:25] <bastilian> ok and then?
[12:25] <apokryphos> bolrod: why were you mucking around with sudoers file? Obviously going to be a recipe for disaster if you don't know what you're doing...
[12:25] <MachineScrew> bastilian, it should dump you at a root promt
[12:25] <bolrod> I set my root password
[12:25] <bastilian> yes
[12:25] <bolrod> I can login with su
[12:25] <apokryphos> bolrod: erm, so just fix the sudoers file then with root
[12:25] <bolrod> sudo synaptic
[12:25] <bolrod> Password:
[12:25] <bolrod> tim is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[12:25] <MachineScrew> bastilian, what you need to do then is an ls of /home
[12:25] <bolrod> I dont need to
[12:25] <bolrod> I just log in as root
[12:26] <bolrod> and executy any command I want
[12:26] <bolrod> why do it with sudo
[12:26] <bolrod> ?
[12:26] <bolrod> execute*
[12:26] <apokryphos> bolrod: because that's what Ubuntu uses. The programs are patched to use it
[12:26] <bastilian> now i enter "nano /etc/sudoers"
[12:26] <thenuke> bolrod: sudo su -  gives you rootshell
[12:26] <bastilian> ls ?
[12:26] <MachineScrew> bastilian, no leave that allone
[12:26] <El_Che> nano -w instead of nano when editing config file
[12:26] <thenuke> bolrod: so you dont have to type sudo before every single command
[12:26] <MachineScrew> bastilian, ls /home
[12:26] <El_Che> never nano alone
[12:27] <bolrod> thenuke: aha.... anyway.. I still dont like it that much
[12:27] <apokryphos> thenuke: yes, but you shouldn't do it like that; sudo -i is better
[12:27] <thenuke> bolrod: ok
[12:27] <apokryphos> bolrod: why not? It's a superior model.
[12:27] <thenuke> apokryphos: hm ok
[12:27] <bastilian> ok it echos my username
[12:27] <MachineScrew> bastilian, any others
[12:27] <bastilian> no
[12:27] <bolrod> apokryphos: why?
[12:28] <bolrod> if someone gets into my account...  they can perform sudo
[12:28] <bolrod> now .. they cant
[12:28] <bolrod> and since I run most programs as normal user
[12:28] <bolrod> I'd have to create another user .. without sudo
[12:28] <bolrod> which is basically the same as removing myself from sudo
[12:28] <bolrod> right?
[12:28] <apokryphos> bolrod: great logic ;-). That applies to root
[12:28] <MachineScrew> bastilian, ok one sec we are going to manualy add permisons to your account so you can have addmin priv
[12:28] <bastilian> ok
[12:28] <apokryphos> bolrod: a lot of reasons are listed on the wiki, IIRC; check that out
[12:29] <bolrod> oh...
[12:29] <MachineScrew> apokryphos, what is the group that gives admin privleges
[12:29] <Madpilot> bolrod: someone finding out your root account pw could do the same thing...
[12:29] <apokryphos> bolrod: sudo gives you the power to choose who runs what as who; no such capability with root.
[12:29] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: admin
[12:29] <bolrod> Madpilot: but I'm not using the root account for irc
[12:29] <bolrod> and stuff
[12:29] <apokryphos> bolrod: if someone wanted to execute root priv commands, they'd still need to know *your* password
[12:30] <bolrod> yes...
[12:30] <apokryphos> bolrod: if you don't want a given user to have sudo powers, then they shouldn't have them (considering it's your computer)
[12:30] <MachineScrew> bastilian, now run addgroup username admin
[12:31] <MachineScrew> bastilian, i think thats it
[12:31] <MachineScrew> bastilian, one sec while i conferm
[12:31] <bolrod> anyway.. what is the link to this wiki? :)  it seems quite dead still
[12:31] <apokryphos> !root
[12:31] <ubotu> root is probably disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:32] <bolrod> hmm.... ubuntu needs to upgrade their servers... I think :)
[12:32] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: is that really meant to be to bastilian? 8)
[12:32] <bob2> how o?
[12:32] <MachineScrew> apokryphos, what??
[12:32] <Madpilot> bolrod: slashdot hit...
[12:32] <bastilian> ok it added my user to admin
[12:33] <MachineScrew> bastilian, ok now su in to your account
[12:33] <MachineScrew> su your username
[12:33] <bolrod> Madpilot: so? :)   shouldn't they be prepared for that
[12:33] <bastilian> ok
[12:33] <bastilian> thats it?
[12:33] <MachineScrew> bastilian, then do sudo nano /etc/fstab
[12:34] <MachineScrew> bastilian, we are just checking to make shure it worked
[12:34] <bolrod> you can open /etc/fstab without root too.. just not alter it
[12:34] <bolrod> I think
[12:34] <Madpilot> bolrod: I'm not sure there really is such a thing as "being prepared for slashdot"...
[12:35] <bolrod> welllll other sites manage to keep it up
[12:35] <bastilian> ok, it works, i'm able to change this file
[12:35] <MachineScrew> bastilian, now add an 'n' to the bottom and try to save it if it dosn't give an error then it worked
[12:35] <bastilian> Thanks a lot!
[12:35] <MachineScrew> bastilian, remove the n before exiting though and resave
[12:35] <MachineScrew> bastilian, no prob
[12:35] <bolrod> hmm.. what would removing /etc/fstab cause...
[12:36] <bolrod> should be some pretty nasty thing during boot
[12:36] <bolrod> :)
[12:36] <MachineScrew> bolrod, funny
[12:36] <MachineScrew> bolrod, why not sudo rm -f /
[12:36] <bolrod> yes
[12:37] <bolrod> but that is not that much fun
[12:37] <bolrod> maybe you can get a shell from grub
[12:37] <bolrod> and mount them manualy
[12:37] <bolrod> ?
[12:37] <MachineScrew> ya right
[12:37] <SirKillalot> hi, how can I install unstable packages? (need newest version of libstdc++6 to play "the mana world")
[12:37] <MachineScrew> bolrod, install windows from ubuntu doing a PXE boot
[12:37] <MachineScrew> bolrod, its possible
[12:37] <bolrod> just pop in the live-cd
[12:37] <ufd_> wooohooo, ubuntu rocks
[12:38] <bolrod> and add the fstab again
[12:38] <realrasta> I upgraded from 5.04 to 5.10 and now I am unable to enable my keyboard us english international layout with dead keys.. anybody experience with this?
[12:38] <bolrod> I guess would me simplest.. :)
[12:38] <SirKillalot> anybody playing "The Mana World" here?
[12:38] <MachineScrew> bolrod, damn its day light
[12:38] <MachineScrew> I haven't slept
[12:38] <bolrod> ?
[12:38] <bolrod> haha
[12:38] <bolrod> its
[12:38] <MachineScrew> what is wrong with me
[12:39] <bolrod> where do you live
[12:39] <aeon17x> MachineScrew: I think you need to take a nap.
[12:39] <El_Che> realrasta: system - preferences - keyboard ?
[12:39] <MachineScrew> bolrod, I live in Georgia
[12:39] <bolrod> aha
[12:39] <bolrod> it is ..
[12:39] <bolrod> Wed Nov  2 12:39:41 2005
[12:39] <bolrod> right here
[12:39] <bolrod> :)
[12:39] <MachineScrew> aeon17x, naw I am always up all night
[12:40] <bolrod> you sleep from 15:00 to 23:00 ?
[12:40] <MachineScrew> bolrod, same day just six hrs ahead
[12:40] <bolrod> indeed :)
[12:40] <MachineScrew> bolrod, nope
[12:40] <bolrod> when I dont have school.. I tend to not sleep some nights
[12:41] <MachineScrew> bolrod, i woke up around 15:00
[12:41] <bolrod> which is especially weird in the middle of the summer
[12:41] <bolrod> since it starts getting light at 4:15 AM
[12:41] <bolrod> :)
[12:41] <MachineScrew> bolrod, ya when I was in school I was installing linux
[12:41] <tarik> hi! does anyone know of any problems with breezy and madwifi?
[12:41] <MachineScrew> bolrod, i was using netscape 4
[12:41] <bob2> of the form...
[12:42] <MachineScrew> bolrod, most linux distros only included mozaic
[12:42] <zkl-laptop> tarik, no, i'm running breezy with a madwifi-supported card right now
[12:42] <bolrod> so.... :)
[12:42] <SirKillalot> how can I install the newest unstable version of libstdc++6? (what do I have to change in my sources.list?)
[12:42] <MachineScrew> bolrod, mozaic sucked
[12:42] <bolrod> :o
[12:42] <bob2> SirKillalot: what are you trying to do?
[12:43] <tarik> zkl-laptop: my breezy freezes on X start if I enable my wireless card on my laptop
[12:43] <ratschnowski> are there any backports available for breezy?
[12:43] <SirKillalot> bob2, I want to play "the mana world" and they say I need the newest version
[12:43] <bob2> ratschnowski: /topic
[12:43] <apokryphos> ratschnowski: /topic
[12:43] <MachineScrew> bolrod, i stayed up all night with linux on my 28.8bps modem
[12:43] <SirKillalot> bob2, http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopic.php?t=975&highlight=glibcxx3
[12:43] <bolrod> damn
[12:43] <bob2> SirKillalot: I'd be very surprised if it didn't work in breezy
[12:43] <realrasta> el_che, that does not work, if I select the keyboard layout there my dead keys do not work
[12:43] <bolrod> 28.8 bps... how did you download linux
[12:43] <bolrod> O_O
[12:43] <MachineScrew> bolrod, downloading pictures for FVWM
[12:43] <bolrod> you bought a cd?
[12:43] <bob2> bolrod: slowly
[12:43] <ratschnowski> oh, sorry, didnt see that
[12:44] <SirKillalot> bob2, the guy in the forums also says that he uses breezy, seems not to work
[12:44] <MachineScrew> bolrod, I bought a cd most of the time I got a book
[12:44] <bolrod> bob2: O_o... damn :p
[12:44] <bolrod> took you... 10 hours?
[12:44] <MachineScrew> bolrod, though I did a net install of debian over a 28.8
[12:44] <bob2> SirKillalot: that's insane
[12:44] <zkl-laptop> tarik, anything in dmesg?
[12:44] <MachineScrew> i was a wireless modem before wifi
[12:45] <SirKillalot> bob2, what do you mean?
[12:45] <bob2> SirKillalot: have you tried it yourself?
[12:45] <SirKillalot> bob2, I get the same errors
[12:45] <bob2> SirKillalot: and you have libstd++6 installed?
[12:45] <SirKillalot> bob2, for sure, but not the "unstable" one
[12:45] <bob2> SirKillalot: ...you have breezy's one intalled?
[12:46] <SirKillalot> yep
[12:46] <bolrod> damnit.. I'm hungry
[12:46] <bolrod> maybe eating would solve this problem
[12:46] <SirKillalot> bob2, any idea?
[12:46] <bob2> SirKillalot: what are you trying to intall? the binary tarrball?
[12:46] <SirKillalot> are there unstable repos for ubuntu breezy?
[12:47] <MachineScrew> bolrod, ya it tends to do that
[12:47] <SirKillalot> nope, I installed the deb, but i cannot start it
[12:47] <iiiears> bob2 - you are amazing. :)
[12:47] <bolrod> MachineScrew: cool
[12:47] <kbrooks> SirKillalot: ubuntu is released
[12:47] <MachineScrew> bolrod, don't forget to do that
[12:47] <SirKillalot> kbrooks, oh yea, sure, but I mean some unstable packages
[12:47] <bolrod> all this time.,.. I thought it was the telly that solved it... blah I was so wrong
[12:48] <MachineScrew> kbrooks, I think he is refering to somthing like the backports
[12:48] <kbrooks> SirKillalot: see topic
[12:48] <bob2> SirKillalot: it installed without errors?
[12:48] <kbrooks> "there are no breezy backports"
[12:48] <SirKillalot> bob2, yep
[12:48] <MachineScrew> kbrooks, I know
[12:48] <kbrooks> MachineScrew: u cant mix ubuntu and debian
[12:48] <SirKillalot> shit, but how does the guy in the forum solve the problem?? http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopic.php?t=975&highlight=glibcxx3
[12:49] <MachineScrew> kbrooks, but in debian there are testing stable and unstable and he wants to know if there is somthing similar
[12:49] <bob2> SirKillalot: jut compile the source
[12:49] <MachineScrew> kbrooks, tor works and its for Debian
[12:49] <SirKillalot> bob2, of what?
[12:49] <bob2> SirKillalot: mana
[12:50] <MachineScrew> kbrooks, though I would not try libs though or much else other than w32codecs
[12:51] <MachineScrew> SirKillalot, compileing from the source works if you have the development tools installed
[12:51] <kbrooks> MachineScrew: do not do that
[12:51] <kbrooks> marillat is debian only
[12:52] <bob2> w32codecs from marillat is fine
[12:52] <kbrooks> bob2: why???
[12:52] <bob2> of course, making people understand they should not install anything else is hard
[12:52] <bob2> kbrooks: because it deosn't Depend on anything
[12:52] <MachineScrew> kbrooks, ya um in the ubuntu wiki it says to get it from there
[12:52] <bob2> it's basically just data, as far as everything but mplayer i concerned
[12:53] <MachineScrew> kbrooks, bob2 is correct
[12:53] <bob2> kbrooks: using Debian packages on ubuntu is dangerous because their dependencies are not neccessarily compatible
[12:54] <MachineScrew> kbrooks, though the wiki dose mention that you should disable it or risk breaking ubuntu
[12:54] <silent_scream> hey guys every time that im trying to open a file through xine, xine quits and console gives me an error message : xiTK received SIGSEGV signal, RIP. what is going on ?
[12:54] <bob2> use something other than xine
[12:54] <kbrooks> bob2: ahh, depends
[12:54] <bob2> adn file a bug
[12:54] <kbrooks> bob2: ok
[12:54] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, what file are you trying to open
[12:55] <silent_scream> gxine has no prob bob2 but i like xine and i want to make it work
[12:55] <kbrooks> bob2: so why dont you all say that to those people
[12:55] <nadjyla> silent_scream, it it s work with gxine, check you choice esd options xine
[12:55] <silent_scream> MachineScrew, any typw .mp3 .mpg etc
[12:55] <kbrooks> who dont understand the discintion between depends and debian
[12:55] <bob2> kbrooks: because people won't listen and will fuck their system up
[12:55] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, why use xine if gxine works
[12:56] <kbrooks> bob2: "won't listen" <- or won't understand?
[12:56] <silent_scream> MachineScrew, cause i like it better :p
[12:56] <bob2> both, I guess
[12:56] <kbrooks> its always better to ask questions if in doubt
[12:56] <[nige] > anyone setup Courier-imap+sasl?
[12:56] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, ok hmm one sec
[12:57] <bob2> pretty sure courier-imap doesn't care about sasl?
[12:57] <[nige] > yer
[12:57] <[nige] > I have it running
[12:57] <[nige] > but i want to use sasl
[12:57] <[nige] > as well :>
[12:57] <[nige] > so i cant have my mail server Haxx0rd
[12:58] <bob2> huh?
[12:58] <MachineScrew> ok xine is incredibly out dated
[12:58] <bob2> sasl doesn't stop thing being broken into
[12:58] <bob2> and ha nothing to do with imap
[12:58] <[nige] > i dont want my mail server to stand out as an openrelay
[12:58] <[nige] > no
[12:58] <bob2> um
[12:58] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, there is a newer one one sec
[12:58] <bob2> is it an open relay now?
[12:58] <[nige] > my mail server is an imap server
[12:58] <cappiz> what chmod is this -rwsrwxrwx ?
[12:58] <bob2> wtf
[12:58] <[nige] > I dont think soo
[12:58] <kbrooks> bob2: heh
[12:58] <bob2> ok, do not ue the phrae "mail server" again
[12:58] <kbrooks> bob2: i dont blame u
[12:58] <silent_scream> MachineScrew, im all ears... or better.. all eyes
[12:58] <bob2> if you mean "smtp server", ay so
[12:58] <[nige] > but I believe I need sasol to be able to send emails via it again
[12:58] <[nige] > from another location
[12:58] <kbrooks> [nige] : you dont understand
[12:59] <[nige] > pardon?
[12:59] <kbrooks> [nige] : listen: ALL MAIL SERVERS, even with special protocols, can be open relays
[12:59] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, ok go here http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/
[12:59] <bob2> kbrooks: eh?
[12:59] <bob2> [nige] : if you're talking about an "smtp server", you need to put that in your question
[01:00] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, get the rpm and run alien on it
[01:00] <[nige] > sure, everything "can" be but I want to make it alittle more secure
[01:00] <kbrooks> MachineScrew: NO NO NO
[01:00] <silent_scream> ok
[01:00] <kbrooks> MachineScrew: that breaks systems
[01:00] <bob2> [nige] : does courier-mta support sasl?
[01:00] <kbrooks> brb
[01:00] <app> Who do I check, if an installation uses any universe/multiverse packages?
[01:00] <[nige] > I thought courier-map does
[01:00] <drcode> hi all
[01:00] <zamba> how do i get aterm for 5.10?
[01:00] <zamba> it's not in the default set of packages
[01:01] <[nige] > imap rather does / did / I heard it was possible to get it working
[01:01] <MachineScrew> kbrooks, no it won't
[01:01] <drcode> can I know some one to what server it connect in irc channel by nick name?
[01:01] <app> Can I filter in Synaptic for "installed non-official packages"
[01:01] <bob2> [nige] : courier-imap has nothing to do with sasl
[01:01] <MachineScrew> kbrooks have you tried it
[01:01] <silent_scream> gxine has skins???
[01:01] <bob2> [nige] : nor relaying
[01:01] <[nige] > okay
[01:01] <bob2> [nige] : which is why I keep uggesting you use the term "smtp server", if that's what you mean
[01:01] <[nige] > okay bob :)
[01:01] <[nige] > hang on
[01:01] <[nige] > I have setup a courier-imap server so i can get my mail from pretty much anyway right
[01:01] <bob2> also, courier-mta seems kinda crap compared to postfix
[01:02] <MachineScrew> kbrooks, dude what are you scared of
[01:02] <[nige] > I can connect and send mail on it only if i am inside the network its located on, but i can receive mail if i am outside it, but cant send
[01:02] <MachineScrew> kbrooks, xine is a program not a vital lib
[01:02] <[nige] > exim handles my mta :)
[01:02] <[nige] > does that make alittle more sense?
[01:02] <MachineScrew> kbrooks, it works fine on mine
[01:03] <bob2> [nige] : yes, but it shows you're kinda lost
[01:03] <Xenguy> MachineScrew: alien is a last resort typically
[01:03] <bob2> [nige] : this has nothing to do with courier
[01:03] <MachineScrew> kbrooks and dpkg will infrom me if its going to break any thing
[01:03] <bolrod> yo.. when is ubuntu upgrading the openoffice... to 2.0.0 or something
[01:03] <bob2> [nige] : you want to configure exim to accept mail from SASL-authenticated users
[01:03] <bob2> bolrod: in april
[01:03] <[nige] > okay
[01:03] <bolrod> HEH?
[01:03] <bolrod> its already out!
[01:03] <bolrod> like
[01:03] <[nige] > thats probaby right then
[01:03] <bolrod> few weeks
[01:03] <MachineScrew> Xenguy, you know where a Ubuntu deb of the xine cvs is ?
[01:03] <app> Evolution works with our office Exchange server, but it does not add the newly sent messages to "Sent items"? Why?
[01:03] <bob2> bolrod: that's awesome
[01:03] <[nige] > okay
[01:03] <bob2> bolrod: the next stable ubuntu release is in april
[01:04] <[nige] > hmmmmm
[01:04] <bolrod> ... they dont upgrade between those?
[01:04] <[nige] > see i noted the cyrus has sasl packages
[01:04] <[nige] > but courrier doesnt
[01:04] <bob2> bolrod: stable is updated every six months
[01:04] <aeon17x> bolrod: they do, but only when there are security issues.
[01:04] <Xenguy> MachineScrew: If I wanted that (and why would I :-), I'd try rolling from source with checkinstall's help
[01:04] <[nige] > i wonder if exim is easy to get sasl working wit
[01:04] <bob2> [nige] : this has nothing at all to do with courier
[01:04] <bolrod> bah
[01:04] <MachineScrew> Xenguy, that is my point there are not many repos out there for Ubuntu
[01:04] <MachineScrew> Xenguy, why it works
[01:04] <bob2> bolrod: dapper probably has oo 2.0 already
[01:04] <[nige] > i understand that bob2
[01:04] <iiiears> bolrod - easy man slo-ow down - this distro is moving at light speed compared to the old debian schedule - grin
[01:05] <bolrod> yeah.. thats true..
[01:05] <MachineScrew> Xenguy, if I got dependincy errors apt-get -f install will fix and then I will go to source
[01:05] <bolrod> though why use a beta release of openoffice
[01:05] <bolrod> when the stable is right there
[01:05] <Xenguy> MachineScrew: I'm out of time, have fun :-)
[01:05] <MachineScrew> but if I have got a pakage I will try it
[01:05] <MachineScrew> ok
[01:06] <bob2> bolrod: because stable is released and is not updated just because something newer came out
[01:06] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, so whats happening
[01:06] <bolrod> erh.... ok..
[01:06] <[nige] > anyways
[01:06] <bolrod> so what running releases of ubuntu are there
[01:06] <[nige] > I gotta run
[01:06] <[nige] > catch ya
[01:06] <[nige] > cya
[01:06] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, also make shure you remove the old xine-ui first
[01:06] <silent_scream> i get an error : with a "generated"
[01:06] <tidsrom> app: in your account settings, there is a tab where you can set the folders to use for sent messages and drafts.
[01:07] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, what is the error
[01:07] <silent_scream> generated is missing something
[01:07] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, what??
[01:08] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, it worked fine on my system
[01:08] <silent_scream> i don't know man
[01:08] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, you have the libxine installed right
[01:09] <silent_scream> yeap
[01:09] <dooglus> I've built the breezy kernel from source.  When I boot it with my usual "vga=773" lilo setting, it boots all black until it gets to the gdm screen.  the pre-built kernel is fine though.  any idea why, or how I can fix it?
[01:09] <MachineScrew> ok type ls
[01:10] <silent_scream> ls where?
[01:10] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, in the download dir of the rpm
[01:10] <silent_scream> MachineScrew, i downoloaded ==> http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/xine-ui-0.99.4cvs-051003.i586.rpm
[01:10] <silent_scream> righth
[01:10] <silent_scream> ?
[01:11] <Phendragon> #ubuntu-es
[01:11] <silent_scream> not the src i mean
[01:11] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, generated isn't an error
[01:11] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, I got the same
[01:11] <app> tidsrom: thank you!
[01:11] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, you should now have a deb in the same dir
[01:12] <tidsrom> app: you're welcome.
[01:12] <dooglus> a few of the breezy release candidate kernels had the same problem, but it got fixed in the final release.  so what changed?
[01:12] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, xine-ui_0.99.4cvs-51004_i386.deb
[01:12] <silent_scream> nono MachineScrew generated is missing was the error
[01:12] <K_Dallas> hi guys! what is the fastest way to download latest ubuntu? thanks
[01:13] <K_Dallas> (homepage is so slow here!)
[01:13] <dooglus> K_Dallas: bittorrent?
[01:13] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, ok ok I am trying to understand what was the command you did
[01:13] <silent_scream> yes yes  sorry my mistake man im sorry
[01:13] <K_Dallas> dooglus, that would be ok
[01:13] <silent_scream> fixed it sorry again
[01:13] <K_Dallas> dooglus, do i find the link on ubuntu homepage?
[01:13] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, -d ?
[01:13] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, how did you fix it
[01:14] <silent_scream> well my mistake was:  sudo dpkg -i xine-ui_0.99.4cvs-51004_i386.deb generated !!! hahaha it s so funny man
[01:14] <Whistler> hello
[01:15] <Whistler> :)
[01:15] <K_Dallas> (is this the latest: buntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent ?
[01:15] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, ya that is funny
[01:15] <Whistler> K_Dallas yep 5.10 is the latest
[01:15] <K_Dallas> great, thanks guys
[01:15] <silent_scream> sorry my mistake... :p
[01:15] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, ok now xine should work
[01:15] <silent_scream> yeap thnx so much
[01:15] <MachineScrew> np
[01:15] <angelo> hi guys
[01:16] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, normaly don't use alien it can lead to intresting and unexpected results
[01:16] <aftertaf> hi Kamping_Kaiser :)
[01:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi aftertaf :)
[01:16] <silent_scream> so when you transform an .rpm to a .deb it has no diferrence than a original .deb ??
[01:17] <aftertaf> silent_scream> i wouldnt guarantee that......
[01:17] <K_Dallas> nice, it is pretty fast ;)
[01:17] <nadjyla> agree with MachineScrew
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> silent_scream: it's different
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's just closer then an RPM
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> and apt can handle it
[01:18] <silent_scream> i think so too
[01:20] <MachineScrew> nadjyla, I had previous experiance with xine-ui rpm from that site before and I have also done it before so that is why I told him to do it
[01:20] <silent_scream> im trying to open gparted and i can't does anybody know what s happening ?
[01:21] <MachineScrew> silent_scream, you doing sudo gparted
[01:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> gksudo
[01:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't dare use sudo :@
[01:21] <silent_scream> i get an error in cocnsole (segmentation fault)
[01:22] <MachineScrew> Kamping_Kaiser, why ??
[01:22] <MachineScrew> gksudo is just a pretty gui
[01:22] <silent_scream> when i use gksudo gparted opens and close a moent after
[01:22] <yodaa> hello, anyone who could teach me how to add items to the right click menu in gnome? (the one that can be used to create folders on your desktop etc)?
[01:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> MachineScrew: because people using sudo has a habit of locking them out of their x sessions
[01:23] <MachineScrew> Kamping_Kaiser, has never happened to me
[01:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> MachineScrew: try launching k3b with sudo and you should loose controll of your .xauth* file
[01:24] <steve_> Hi all, can anyone tell me how I can get write access to a floppy drive?
[01:24] <MachineScrew> Kamping_Kaiser, I will never use k3b
[01:24] <MachineScrew> Kamping_Kaiser, kde apps in GNOME is just asking for trouble
[01:24] <Coweater> if you set up permissions properly you wouldn't be running k3b as root
[01:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> MachineScrew: niether ;) but it's a matter of principal
[01:24] <Coweater> kde apps run fine in gnome
[01:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> steve_: make sure you don't have the write prottect tab on :)
[01:25] <MachineScrew> Kamping_Kaiser, so what be parinoid of all programs because of one misbehaved one ?
[01:25] <steve_> LOL even I'm not that green
[01:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> MachineScrew: yeh, basicly
[01:25] <silent_scream> well im trying to resize ubuntu and i can't find a way to do it...!
[01:26] <silent_scream> ubuntu partition i mean**
[01:26] <nadjyla> silent_scream, il you want tor esize a system partition, do it with a livecd
[01:26] <silent_scream> the filesystem is ext3
[01:26] <MachineScrew> Kamping_Kaiser, so just because a metor fell from the sky once we must all stay indoors ?
[01:26] <silent_scream> how nadjyla  ?
[01:26] <steve_> I think I need to edit the fstab but not sure how
[01:26] <nadjyla> silent_scream, you cant resize a system partition if you use it
[01:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> MachineScrew: you should stay indoors anyway ;)
[01:27] <silent_scream> nadjyla, shall i download the livecd of ubuntu then ?
[01:27] <MachineScrew> Kamping_Kaiser, how can you learn any thing with linux by being parinoid
[01:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> MachineScrew: man man :S but i do take your point
[01:27] <Coweater> MachineScrew: use a test box
[01:27] <MachineScrew> Kamping_Kaiser, i do sudo gedit all the time
[01:28] <yme> why?
[01:28] <nadjyla> for partition, i prefer use the livecd of mandriva. but ubuntulivecd is good
[01:28] <MachineScrew> Coweater, why are you guys so timid
[01:28] <pepsi> what file is it where i can set specify ips for arbitrary hostnames? /etc/resolv.conf right? and i just add "foobar 192.168.1.3" or somesuch?
[01:28] <nadjyla> or you can take the livecd: systemrescue cd
[01:29] <nadjyla> 100 mo i think
[01:29] <pepsi> /etc/hosts
[01:29] <pepsi> :)
[01:29] <MachineScrew> Coweater, back in the day I loaded a virus on my system just to see what would happen and to see if the anti-virus prog worked
[01:29] <Ng> pepsi: pretty much, yep
[01:30] <pepsi> Ng, ah.. i do it the other way around.. no wonder i was having problems
[01:30] <pepsi> foobar x.x.x.x
[01:30] <MachineScrew> lets get real parinoid shall we
[01:30] <steve_> Help needed editing fstab please
[01:30] <MachineScrew> ok no one install the w32codecs MS will come after you because you are violating there licence
[01:30] <silent_scream> nadjyla,  what about suse?
[01:31] <nadjyla> suse is nt good for rezise partition
[01:31] <MachineScrew> oh don't install lame you will need to pay some dude royalties
[01:32] <silent_scream> nadjyla, and even through a live cd how can i resize it ?
[01:32] <MachineScrew> that is my point
[01:32] <angelo> steve, i think u can resize ur partition using the ubuntu install cd itself
[01:32] <nadjyla> with a livecd, you can use gparted and qtparted ans resize ypour system partition
[01:32] <MachineScrew> lets not try any new cool programs that are not in the repos
[01:33] <silent_scream> aha
[01:33] <silent_scream> thnx
[01:33] <MachineScrew> better yet lets push the keyboard away and not use the damned computer lol
[01:33] <steve_> angelo: I dont want to resize a partition just write a file to a floppy
[01:35] <MachineScrew> i thought we all used linux because we like to try things known bugs or not
[01:35] <Seven> Anyone knows the package containing gvim? apt-cache search vim doesnt point much to me...
[01:36] <nadjyla> Seven, check if you configure well sources.list
[01:36] <MachineScrew> Seven, did you try gtk-vim
[01:36] <Seven> nadjyla, i believe sources are correct ;)
[01:36] <Seven> MachineScrew, i'll try that
[01:36] <angelo> sory i was referring to the partition prob :P
[01:37] <MachineScrew> Seven, vim-gtk is it
[01:37] <nadjyla> Seven,
[01:37] <nadjyla> Seven,  vim-gtk or vim-gnome
[01:37] <Seven> MachineScrew, yes i tried vim-gtx as well but it says vim replaces it
[01:38] <angelo> has any1 installed an antivirus in thier ubuntu box?
[01:38] <MachineScrew> Seven, you mean vim-gtk
[01:38] <MachineScrew> angelo, why
[01:38] <Seven> MachineScrew, lol yes i do sorry for the typo
[01:38] <MachineScrew> angelo, security through obscurity
[01:39] <angelo> MachineScrew, i've install antivir and the GUI doesn't work
[01:39] <MachineScrew> Seven, try vim-gnome
[01:39] <angelo> can any1 suggest a solution?
[01:39] <MachineScrew> angelo, why do you need an antivirus prog
[01:40] <Seven> MachineScrew, yes i shall and i'm putting up more rep sources just in case ;)
[01:40] <MachineScrew> Seven, cool
[01:40] <MachineScrew> angelo, what antivirus are you trying
[01:41] <angelo> Machine, AntiVir
[01:41] <nadjyla> angelo, use clam
[01:41] <Seven> MachineScrew, thank you very much found out that i forgot to put universe on the updates... security had it but not regular updates :P
[01:41] <MachineScrew> Seven, np
[01:41] <MachineScrew> angelo, AntiVir ??
[01:42] <angelo> I managed to install the console, but it says it has a GUI but I don't know how to run it
[01:42] <nadjyla> clam is better and good on linux
[01:42] <nadjyla> and there is a good gui
[01:43] <leagris> hello, anyone here have some deep insights about ubuntu linux kernel sata and libata bugs and ways to workaround it ?
[01:43] <MachineScrew> angelo i need to know the name of the program
[01:43] <steve_> I want to save my sources list to floppy but get a cant save file error, can anyone help?
[01:43] <angelo> nadjyla, is it the one listed in the synaptic P M?
[01:43] <nadjyla> yes
[01:44] <angelo> Machine, its "AntiVir Workstation"
[01:44] <nadjyla> beacause it s free so listed in synaptic
[01:45] <MachineScrew> angelo, you downloaded this
[01:45] <leagris> I encounter NULL pointer crash in libata with an ATAPI SATA PX716SA Plextor DVD burner plugged to an 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller and ubuntu Breezy.
[01:45] <angelo> ok thanks nadjyla, but I was hoping if sum1 can help me in fixing this
[01:45] <MachineScrew> angelo, you know this is a comercial
[01:45] <angelo> Machine, yup
[01:46] <MachineScrew> angelo, you also realy don't need an anti virus program
[01:46] <nadjyla> i tryed like you ith your soft, but there arnet much upgrade
[01:46] <angelo> linux version of AntiVir is free
[01:46] <nadjyla> sorry
[01:46] <MachineScrew> angelo, still you realy don't need one
[01:47] <Seven> angelo, i kind of agree with MachineScrew
[01:47] <aftertaf> angelo> unless it is for a mailserver that has windows clients.....
[01:47] <aftertaf> :)
[01:47] <leagris> or someone can tell me his good working experience with Ubuntu using an SATA DVD Burner, telling what SATA controler and what brand of SATA DVD burner they use ?
[01:48] <MachineScrew> aegis is good
[01:48] <iceman> Ok, anyone know how to replace the UBUNTU "GNOME" startup screen, the brown background and the brown screen that tells you its loading the devices ...
[01:48] <angelo> ok i guess so
[01:48] <Seven> aftertaf, sure i wasn't thinking about that... private linux machines are most likely not to need an AV
[01:48] <nadjyla> iceman, gnome-control-center=>splashscreen
[01:49] <aftertaf> Seven> totally ;)  i think it is the only case.... then again, format and install a better OS ;)
[01:49] <iceman> there a commandline to launch that
[01:50] <nadjyla>  gnome-splashscreen-manager
[01:50] <nadjyla> and you can use gnome-art to download and install some splashcreen
[01:50] <MachineScrew> angelo,  aegis virus scaner is availible and has a spiffy interface
[01:50] <angelo> Machine, ok thanks for the tips guys
[01:51] <MachineScrew> angelo, np
[01:52] <MachineScrew> by all
[01:52] <iceman> ran gnome control center and no app for splashscreen
[01:52] <MachineScrew> and DON'T be PARINOID lol
[01:52] <nadjyla> on breezy, i talk iceman
[01:52] <aftertaf> !cigarette
[01:53] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[01:53] <angelo> has any1 ordered Ubuntu thru shipit?
[01:53] <nadjyla> directly the command line is : gnome-splashscreen-manager
[01:53] <Seven> umm isn't it easier to follow System > Administration > Login Screen Setup?
[01:54] <Alex> angelo: yus
[01:54] <nadjyla> no, he talk for change splashscreen
[01:54] <iceman> nadjyla "dont follow" i got nothing in my menus for Gnome control center... and it is installed, but nothing about splash screen
[01:54] <nadjyla> iceman, you use breezy or hoary?
[01:54] <iceman> breezy
[01:54] <Seven> oh got it :P
[01:55] <sgbirch> Is anyone using evolution with a palm device (eke treo)
[01:55] <odie5533> Anyone know how to tell Nautilus that my cd drive can also write cds?
[01:55] <nadjyla> iceman, the command line gnome-splashscreen-manager doesn t work ?
[01:55] <iceman> ok, ill try thatone
[01:55] <Seven> nadjyla, tried here too and it doesn't work
[01:56] <angelo> I ordered expecting breezy cds but what I received where hoary...
[01:56] <nadjyla> it s work with me. maybe have to install with synaptic
[01:56] <app> I just installed ubuntu-firewall script of Robet C. Pectol. Is it any good? Any problems you know with the standrad rules?
[01:56] <Seven> probably
[01:56] <iceman> I'm actualy browsing in usr/bin for the file
[01:56] <aftertaf> sgbirch> ive got a treo, but i use kde...
[01:57] <nadjyla> iceman, i take a screenshoot
[01:57] <aftertaf> in fact i use e17 so its even more complicated than that now. i'll need to run the daemon manually first :)
[01:57] <pirast> whats up with the ubuntu homepage?
[01:58] <Seven> Anyone knows how to automate the & at the end of every command so i can keep using the terminal while launching some app?
[01:58] <Seven> pirast, the ubuntu homepage seems to be down (or at least incredibly slow) for the time being
[01:59] <iceman> there a command to search for files ?
[01:59] <Alex> angelo: When did you order?
[01:59] <pirast> hm k.. because it was slow and down yesterday too.. i was just wondering, thanks..
[01:59] <bluefrog-10> they seem to have problems with certificates
[02:00] <Seven> iceman, if you're looking for executables try whereis
[02:00] <Seven> iceman, e.g. whereis vim
[02:01] <angelo> Alex, september 18
[02:01] <Alex> angelo: I believe they were still shipping Hoary CDs at the time, as Breezy wasn't released.
[02:01] <Seven> angelo, you ordered too soon i guess
[02:02] <app> My Skype generic-Linux-386-static binary on Breezy (the only one that works) has too large ugly fonts. Can I change that?
[02:02] <nadjyla> iceman: splashcreen for gnome : http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot6mp.png
[02:02] <Coweater> iceman: locate
[02:02] <emgee> Can someone do me a favour and check what the IP is to first hit on google searching for network tools?
[02:03] <Seven> nadjyla incredibly beautiful theme :)
[02:03] <Alex> emgee: 66.98.244.117
[02:03] <emgee> thanks A
[02:03] <iceman> cant fine it ... and i see the screenshot ..
[02:03] <nadjyla> i loss all my prefernces, so it s the default theme
[02:04] <nadjyla> iceman: install it with synaptic or apt-get
[02:04] <angelo> Alex, Seven, I ordered again and hope it will arive after a month or so.
[02:04] <app> ..
[02:04] <Seven> iceman,  you gotta use synaptic lol
[02:04] <Seven> angelo, yes i'm still waiting for mine... ordered somewhere in october
[02:05] <nathanj> is totem-xine installed by default or totem-gstreamer?
[02:05] <iceman> i fetched with apt-get
[02:05] <nadjyla> gstreamer nathanj
[02:05] <nathanj> which is better?
[02:05] <nadjyla> but you can install totem-xine (better)
[02:06] <pirast> but totem-xine is very crashy ;-)
[02:06] <nathanj> does zine still use the all teh gstreamer-plugibns etc?
[02:06] <ekimus> emgee: 66.98.244.117
[02:06] <iceman> nadjyla cool, now i need splashscreens .. lol
[02:07] <nadjyla> use gnome-art
[02:07] <nadjyla> it s rox
[02:08] <Seven> nadjyla, didn't know about gnome-art its really good :)
[02:08] <iceman> checking synaptic for splash ?
[02:08] <nadjyla> no, uses gnome-art to take splashscreen
[02:09] <iceman> nadjyla there next ...
[02:09] <Seven> most useless application ever: cowsay lol
[02:12] <nathanj> does totem-zine still use gstreamer-plugs etc?
[02:12] <EmergeTW> Anyone know where emacs is located under the add applications menu?
[02:13] <_jason> EmergeTW:  I think it's put in accessories
[02:13] <_jason> EmergeTW:  oh in add... idk
[02:14] <ElCeViTo> selam millet
[02:14] <Seven> EmergeTW, emacs isn't installed by default so if it isn't where _jason said then you must apt-get it
[02:15] <_jason> EmergeTW:  just use synaptic or apt-get
[02:17] <blackgate> anybody that have installed and used NVU?
[02:18] <iiiears> NVU - is a good app.
[02:22] <spiral> hi
[02:22] <zyclop666> greetings
[02:22] <lars> Hi, does breezy support grup splashsimages?
[02:23] <aftertaf> lars> yes
[02:23] <Nihil85> hallo
[02:23] <aftertaf> lars> install the grub images package with apt, then gogle for grub splash images, there is a good gentoo wiki howto somewere thet does it for you
[02:24] <lars> aftertaf, ok thanks!
[02:24] <Nihil85> i tried to mount my flppy disk, but ubuntu still says that the device is not valid. why?
[02:24] <augustin> hello
[02:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi'
[02:26] <augustin> i have a wifi problem, but not related to Ubuntu (it does the same in Win). i don't know where to ask for help, could you guys redirect me to another IRC channel, or better, help me ? =D
[02:27] <zyclop666> what is the best way to acces my other harddisc?
[02:28] <spola> zyclop666, mount it and use nautilus?
[02:28] <nadjyla> on breezy: use disks-admin (easy) or fstab
[02:29] <zyclop666> k, gonna do that
[02:31] <thechitowncubs> hey
[02:31] <spola> say, how can i reroute audio devices trhu esd so i can listen to music and play ET at the same time? i used to use artsdsp back in my kde days and found mentions of esddsp on google, but esddsp isnt installed andi cant find it in synaptic. any help please? :p
[02:31] <augustin> i have a wifi problem, but not related to Ubuntu (it does the same in Win). i don't know where to ask for help, could you guys redirect me to another IRC channel, or better, help me ? =D
[02:32] <silent_scream> im trying to open limewire through a console and i get this error message : http://pastebin.com/414716
[02:32] <timmow> augustin: if its a hardware problem, its an ubuntu problem.  Unless its the ndiswrapper drivers
[02:33] <augustin> timmow, nah, it happens both in Windows and Ubuntu =/ but i don't know where to find help, the problem is hard to describe so i can't really google it, that's why i'd need an IRC channel =/
[02:33] <eedge> Heya, I've just installed hoary hedgehog (5.04) :)
[02:34] <eedge> managed to get internet connection through my local proxy....
[02:34] <eedge> but, I think I need a new source.list as when I apt get things it doesn't work.
[02:34] <eedge> I tried the sources.list from ubuntuguide but that didn't work either...
[02:34] <aftertaf> eedge> you need to tell apt to use the proxy.
[02:34] <the--dud> as its not in the topic atm, the wiki page being down is a known issue right?
[02:34] <eedge> how do I do that?
[02:35] <aftertaf> eedge> 2 secs.... create a file called /etc/apt/apt.conf and put this in it. : Acquire::http::Proxy "http://10.130.8.254:8090";
[02:35] <aftertaf> eedge> Acquire::http::Proxy "http://10.130.8.254:8090";
[02:35] <aftertaf>  <  cange details to match your own...
[02:36] <eedge> thanks, I'll try it now :)
[02:36] <aftertaf> eedge> then apt-get update should work.
[02:36] <brenner> anyone a bmp user?
[02:36] <aftertaf> yup
[02:36] <eedge> will I have to create the file from terminal with sudo?
[02:37] <aftertaf> eedge> yep. nano or vim ;)
[02:37] <aftertaf> with sudo
[02:37] <MasterYuri> hi all
[02:38] <MasterYuri> can i explane you my problem?
[02:38] <brenner> MasterYuri: that's what we're here for
[02:39] <leagris> where is a good place to get some help about libata SATA NULL pointer refernce crash in ubuntu ?
[02:39] <the--dud> is ubuntu hosted at FDCservers?
[02:39] <MasterYuri> my firefox
[02:39] <MasterYuri> :(
[02:39] <MasterYuri> the home page is google
[02:39] <MasterYuri> but firefox open http://www.whatuseek.com/
[02:40] <MasterYuri> how is possible :|?
[02:40] <K_Dallas> Q: the memtest on the boot from the CD, is it to test the RAM and when should i stop it? thanks
[02:40] <aftertaf> MasterYuri> on linux?
[02:40] <nadjyla> yes. to test ram
[02:40] <MasterYuri> yes
[02:40] <the--dud> memtest will stop when its done K_Dallas
[02:40] <MasterYuri> ubuntu
[02:40] <Seven> MasterYuri, are you sure you spelled www.google.com correctly? sometimes typos do that
[02:41] <K_Dallas> the--dud, i have never waited that long ;)
[02:41] <MasterYuri> i'm sure but let's control...
[02:41] <K_Dallas> but i will this time, thanks guys
[02:41] <K_Dallas> thanks nadjyla
[02:41] <leagris> K_Dallas, yes it is, and you must top it when you guess the ram is ok (at least one entire rune of the complete set of tests)
[02:41] <the--dud> if you've spelled it right MasterYuri, someone must have messed with your /etc/hosts or /etc/resolve
[02:41] <K_Dallas> leagris, thank you
[02:41] <leagris> if you don't stop it, it will loop the tests forver just conting if an error occurs
[02:41] <K_Dallas> Q2: could tetex3 be installed on the latest ubuntu?
[02:42] <K_Dallas> leagris, that was my understanding, thanks again
[02:43] <leagris> K_Dallas, Its a good idea to run it all the night and look at what that said the morning time
[02:43] <brenner> K_Dallas: there's a tetex-bin package, not sure what version it is
[02:43] <brenner> but it includes all the LaTeX goodies
[02:43] <leagris> some RAM deffects don't realy show stright and only appear after some significant heatup or time
[02:44] <K_Dallas> i heard from another ubuntu user that the default tetex is 2, and even on debian they have (well as far as i remember) tetex3 on experimental
[02:44] <leagris> I just do it whant I install a new RAM module and return it to the store if it show deffectiv
[02:44] <Seven> Anyone knows how to automate the & at the end of every command so i can keep using the terminal while launching some app?
[02:44] <spola> [SOLVED]  if you want esddsp, dont bother searching for it in synaptic. its in the package esound-clients
[02:45] <eedge> I think that worked aftertaf.
[02:45] <aftertaf> eedge> hehe :)
[02:45] <eedge> I'm apt-get upgrade'ing now.
[02:45] <aftertaf> eedge> ok; now run install ubuntu-desktop first
[02:45] <john__> lars..
[02:46] <aftertaf> eedge> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.
[02:46] <eedge> why run install ubuntu-desktop? what will that do?
[02:46] <leagris> or someone can tell me his good working experience with Ubuntu using an SATA DVD Burner, telling what SATA controler and what brand of SATA DVD burner they use ?
[02:46] <aftertaf> eedge> ensure al is well before upgrading.
[02:46] <leagris> where is a good place to get some help about libata SATA NULL pointer refernce crash in ubuntu ?
[02:46] <brenner> K_Dallas: *nod* looks like it's 2.0
[02:46] <augustin> nobody knows an IRC channel where i could get help for my WiFI ? (not Ubuntu specific)
[02:47] <K_Dallas> brenner, ok. so would the deb packages from debian work on ubuntu?
[02:47] <leagris> Is there a QA bugzilla for Ubuntu ?
[02:48] <brenner> K_Dallas: afaik, it's a bad idea to use debian packages
[02:48] <K_Dallas> :(
[02:48] <eedge> I get lots of errors with install ubuntu-desktop: like this W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:48] <Mez> eedge: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add a # before a line that says anything to do with backports before
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> eedge: remove mirrormax from oyru soruces
[02:49] <eedge> probably to do with the fact that I changed my sources.list to the one on ubuntu guide?
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> as of 2 or 3 months ago IIRC
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep
[02:49] <john__> How do I do to setup a splaschimage in breezi for grub?
[02:49] <brenner> K_Dallas: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16879&highlight=tetex3
[02:49] <DShepherd> eedge: dont use ubuntuguide
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> eedge: you on breeezy or Hoary?
[02:49] <leagris> eedge, that tells you the files or directory is no longer available on the server repository. Search for a new repository and delete this one
[02:49] <eedge> hoary.
[02:49] <brenner> K_Dallas: it looks like it's still experimental?  up to you to risk it
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> eedge: backports are on the offical server now
[02:50] <eedge> hmm.. whats the easiest way to fix my sources.list then?
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> eedge: 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> then remove the lines for backports
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> then dist-upgrade
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> then add in new lines pointing at the offical mirrors
[02:50] <K_Dallas> brenner, i used it on sarge without any problems so it seemd to me to be pretty stable
[02:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> never have backports enabled while dist-upgrading
[02:51] <eedge> eeek
[02:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:51] <Ng> or generally ever, if you can help it
[02:51] <bolrod> hohoho!!!!  this computer is going nuts
[02:51] <bolrod> :/
[02:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0
[02:52] <bolrod> its using like ... swap space
[02:52] <bolrod> while there is RAM free
[02:52] <bolrod> :/
[02:52] <bolrod> then
[02:52] <bolrod> Xorg was using 1200MB of VIRTUAL memory
[02:52] <bolrod> O_O
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> bolrod: relax re swap
[02:52] <bolrod> I think that is not quite good...
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's all good TM
[02:52] <leagris> Is there any bugilla or QA like for ubuntu I may search an post about libata SATA Kernel crash bug ?
[02:52] <brenner> K_Dallas: well give it a try if your willing....like i said, iirc, using most debian packages on ubuntu is a bad idea, there are exceptions though where it's safe....i'm not sure if tetex3 would fall under that
[02:52] <aftertaf> K_Dallas> sarge == debian... ubuntu isnt debian
[02:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> as for virtual memory, that's shared memory no?
[02:53] <eedge> I just disabled backports.. I think ;).. what now?
[02:53] <K_Dallas> aftertaf, well i know that. didnt i say it?
[02:53] <DShepherd> eedge: dont use ubuntuguide.org. it break stuff
[02:53] <aftertaf> eedge> pm?
[02:53] <DShepherd> breaks*
[02:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> eedge: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:53] <bolrod> Kamping_Kaiser: in top  it was 1200 MB under VIRT
[02:53] <bolrod> ALL the swap space was used
[02:54] <bolrod> (300 MB)
[02:54] <bolrod> + alot of the RAM
[02:54] <bolrod> (1GB)
[02:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> bolrod: :)
[02:54] <johnny_> hey guys got a problem.
[02:54] <johnny_> my name i use in here seems to already be logged in but i registered it.
[02:54] <johnny_> anyway i can take it over?
[02:54] <aftertaf> K_Dallas> hehe ok. didnt see... but still..dont do it!! (tm)
[02:54] <bolrod>  /msg nickserv hepl
[02:54] <K_Dallas> well i wont then, thanks
[02:54] <bolrod>  /msg nickserv help
[02:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> have to ask nickserver about that johnny_
[02:55] <bolrod> ghost
[02:55] <K_Dallas> is there a place to see which packages the developing people are working on?
[02:55] <mike_> exit
[02:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> bolrod: ok, that's a lot of RAM ;)
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> K_Dallas: ask the motus, they would know
[02:56] <K_Dallas> and Q: does the default installation uses jack and jackd + alsa?
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> as tex is a universe package
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> no i don't think so
[02:56] <K_Dallas> Kamping_Kaiser, motus?
[02:56] <K_Dallas> ok
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> MOTU's
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> try #ubuntu-motu IIRC
[02:56] <aftertaf> he man :)
[02:56] <K_Dallas> :)
[02:56] <K_Dallas> thanks
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:57] <sexcopter8000m> what is a motu?
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> sexcopter8000m: a Master Of The Universe
[02:57] <sexcopter8000m> ahh, kk :)
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> they do the packages in ubuntu universe repositories
[02:58] <necator> ok thats better.
[02:58] <necator> im trying out kde today! looks alot different then what was on here before.
[02:58] <necator> pretty cool you can change entire desktops like that. nice feature
[02:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> necator: like what? ;)
[02:58] <aftertaf> hehe necator kde roxs
[02:59] <bolrod> kde looks childish
[02:59] <aftertaf> !start a desktop war
[02:59] <ubotu> blackbox is much better than xfce!
[02:59] <K_Dallas> lol
[02:59] <bolrod> :)
[02:59] <necator> aftertaf its way different then the previous one tho so im lost all over again =( being a noob is so hard
[02:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> !botsnack
[02:59] <K_Dallas> why not ion3 then ;)
[02:59] <ubotu> :)
[02:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:59] <aftertaf> e17 is the only real way
[02:59] <nekostar> :/
[02:59] <bolrod> what about fluxbox
[02:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. reminds me, i was going to get E
[02:59] <Rockett18> or openbox
[03:00] <bolrod> is there a package to install e17 then?
[03:00] <aftertaf> lol Kamping_Kaiser
[03:00] <necator> whats e17?
[03:00] <aftertaf> !e17
[03:00] <bolrod> !ha
[03:00] <ubotu> bolrod: Are you smoking crack?
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> bolrod: not yet
[03:00] <bolrod> :)
[03:00] <necator> !e17
[03:00] <aftertaf> ://www.soulmachine.net/wiki/index.php?title=Enlightenment_on_Ubuntu_5.10_%28Breezy_Badger%29
[03:00] <K_Dallas> entertainment tonight 17:00 edition ;)
[03:00] <aftertaf> doh.......
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> necator: e16+1 ;)
[03:00] <sexcopter8000m> i want to remove evolution, and if i opt to remove it in synaptic, it says it has to remove ubuntu-desktop too. is that safe (isn't ubuntu-desktop just a meta-package?)
[03:00] <leagris> If I find bugs in ubuntu. What is the place to deal with it ?
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> sexcopter8000m: it's ok untill you want to upgrade to the next version
[03:01] <K_Dallas> sexcopter8000m, most probably
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> leagris: bugzilla or malone (launchpad)
[03:01] <K_Dallas> they usually refer to dummy packages ;)
[03:01] <sexcopter8000m> Kamping_Kaiser, that's ok, i tend to prefer the reinstall option :)
[03:01] <nekostar> there is sort of a thing
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok sexcopter8000m:)
[03:02] <aftertaf> !e17
[03:02] <leagris> kafeine, do you know the URL for ubuntu QA ?
[03:02] <aftertaf> why doesnt ubotu post here?
[03:02] <aftertaf> [e17]  the Development Release of a next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com, http://www.get-e.org or http://www.edevelop.org Install HOWTO at: http://www.gawth.org/?id=lin  BREEZY repositories at : http://www.soulmachine.net/wiki/index.php?title=Enlightenment_on_Ubuntu_5.10_%28Breezy_Badger%29
[03:02] <leagris> Kamping_Kaiser, any URL for the ubuntu bugzilla ?
[03:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[03:03] <bolrod> I'll wait for the final package
[03:03] <bolrod> :)
[03:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[03:03] <brenner> aftertaf: to avoid flooding...i guess there's a char limit
[03:03] <aftertaf> brenner> hehe ok.
[03:04] <DShepherd> is aftertaf a bot?
[03:04] <leagris> thank you very much Kamping_Kaiser
[03:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> leagris: no worries
[03:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> DShepherd: LMAO!!!!!
[03:04] <aftertaf> lol DShepherd nope
[03:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> ahhahaaa
[03:04] <aftertaf> kk me too man :D
[03:05] <brenner> aftertaf: botsnack
[03:05] <aftertaf> :)
[03:05] <aftertaf> thanks brenner
[03:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[03:05] <brenner> i guess he is then
[03:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:05] <DShepherd> DShepherd: ok. srry :)
[03:05] <brenner> he ate it
[03:05] <Earthen> I need some help with setting up Ubuntu on a new computer with a ATI X800 video card
[03:05] <X3rxes> I am your friend.
[03:05] <DShepherd> aftertaf: srry man
[03:05] <bolrod> X3rxes: you sh00r?
[03:05] <brenner> X3rxes: can i have $5 then?
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> DShepherd: ubotu is the bot
[03:06] <aftertaf> DShepherd> looooool no probs at all :) LMAO too
[03:06] <X3rxes> Sorry.
[03:06] <X3rxes> I hate you all!
[03:06] <X3rxes> ;p
[03:06] <bolrod> k
[03:06] <bolrod> thats better
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> tahts ok X3rxes
[03:06] <X3rxes> )
[03:06] <X3rxes> ;)
[03:06] <DShepherd> Kamping_Kaiser: I know about ubotu
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> DShepherd: cool.
[03:06] <brenner> Earthen: what problems you having?
[03:06] <odie5533> !tell X3rxes about ubuntu
[03:07] <X3rxes> no
[03:07] <X3rxes> I want to tell him about unbuntu
[03:07] <X3rxes> ubuntu*
[03:07] <bolrod> !tell me about ubuntu
[03:07] <X3rxes> :(
[03:07] <bolrod> :)
[03:07] <Earthen> brenner: will gnome will not start or xorg I guess
[03:07] <X3rxes> no !tell me
[03:07] <DShepherd> aftertaf: its just you did that you posted about e17. I was quite verbose..Looked very bot like
[03:07] <stelki> !tell me about ubuntu
[03:07] <X3rxes> cool
[03:07] <aftertaf> DShepherd> cos i pasted what ubotu said about it cos he didnt say it here :)
[03:07] <X3rxes> ubuntu everyones friend? :)
[03:08] <DShepherd> aftertaf: ok.
[03:08] <brenner> Earthen: [1]  use the vesa driver, that should let you use X then [2]  read the xorg log, looking for errors
[03:08] <aftertaf> !tell Kamping_Kaiser about e17breezy
[03:08] <Earthen> brenner: I was trying to impress a friend with ubuntu trying to covert him to it from Windows I may have faileed LOL
[03:08] <X3rxes> meh
[03:08] <X3rxes> you are nota l33t h4x0r?
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: :P
[03:08] <Earthen> brenner: how do I switch to the vesa driver
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> what about on dapper :P
[03:09] <brenner> Earthen: heh....you'll get him eventually
[03:09] <brenner> Earthen: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg
[03:09] <brenner> whoops
[03:09] <aftertaf> Kamping_Kaiser> nope... E18 will be out for randy rottweiler though ;)
[03:09] <brenner> Earthen: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: lol
[03:09] <Earthen> brenner: I reall cocky I have a ato9700 pro everything worked fine right from the get go  so I though it would work for him also
[03:09] <bolrod> wtf is the difference between dapper breezy and stuff
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> bolrod: dapper is version 6.04
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> Breezy 5.10
[03:10] <odie5533> !tell bolrod about dapper
[03:10] <brenner> Earthen: then scroll down to the "Device" section, and change the driver from whatever it is to "vesa"
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> and Hoary 5.04
[03:10] <Earthen> brenner: YEH THAT THE XORG CONFID FILE BUT WHAT DO i PUT IN THE FOR THE VIDEO DRIVER
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> Warty was 4.10
[03:10] <leagris> Kamping_Kaiser, I fount several bugs related to SATA ATAPI CDROMS and burners pending. It appear I can hope for the next kernel 2.6.13 to fix most of them. Bugzilla is a good place to look at when wierd things happens :)
[03:10] <Earthen> brenner: sorry caps lock
[03:10] <odie5533> 4.10 5.04 5.10 6.04
[03:10] <brenner> Earthen: no need to shout. :)
[03:10] <timmow> Earthen: sed 's/ati/vesa/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf -i
[03:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> leagris: sure is :)
[03:11] <bolrod> k :)
[03:11] <ficusplanet> Hey everyone.  Is there audio/video of Ubuntu Below Zero available online?
[03:11] <brenner> timmow: heh.
[03:11] <Earthen> brenner: I gotta write this down cause his compute is next door
[03:11] <brenner> Earthen: or what timmow said...he's smarter than me
[03:11] <kamelion> Hello, I just bought a webcam (labtec) and v4l detects it but every time I try to use it linux just freezes, anyone an idea?
[03:11] <Earthen> LOL
[03:12] <Earthen> timmow: is that all i need to run
[03:12] <brenner> Earthen: just use timmow's command, that'll change it for you w/out having to use an editor
[03:12] <timmow> sed and regexps will change your life :)
[03:12] <Earthen> brenner:  that it
[03:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> globbing has started, i havnt got around to sed+real regex yet
[03:13] <brenner> Earthen: yes....then try 'startx' or reboot
[03:14] <musik> doesnt ubuntu have any encrypting gui tool???
[03:14] <Earthen> brenner:  timmow:    Thanks for you help guys I'll run over and see if it works!  LOL
[03:15] <nekostar> well lets try some of these *box wm's
[03:15] <brenner> K_Dallas: how so?  minor visual improvements gnome-wise imo
[03:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/santa_comes_to_town.html lol
[03:15] <musik> is there any gui encrypting tool in ubuntu plz???
[03:15] <K_Dallas> i havent got into gnome yet ;) just boot part
[03:16] <K_Dallas> it seems that it is not recognizing my network card :(
[03:16] <MarcN> musik: you want to encrypt your gui?
[03:16] <bolrod> :)
[03:16] <doyley> hey's
[03:16] <Seven> MarcN, i believe he meant an encryption tool that has a GUI :)
[03:16] <X3rxes> hi :)
[03:16] <musik> i meant a gui app to encrypt/decrypt things???
[03:17] <doyley> :o its X3rxes
[03:17] <MarcN> Seven: I'm just messing with him. ;-)
[03:17] <X3rxes> :o
[03:17] <Seven> musik, try OpenPGP
[03:17] <X3rxes> Please don't spam.
[03:17] <musik> i encrypted many things in kde with kgpg.cant open them now...
[03:17] <Seven> MarcN, heh :P
[03:17] <musik> Seven, i cant find it in menus...
[03:18] <Seven> musik, you'll probably have to install it
[03:18] <seraph> good evening all
[03:18] <seraph> if I have two hard drives and install ubuntu to the second one, where do I install the partition/boot manager?
[03:18] <MarcN> musik: What happens when you try to decrypt them.  Using gpg?
[03:18] <seraph> grub that is
[03:18] <musik> ok i installed debian menu but i cant see it
[03:18] <MarcN> seraph: the primary disk typically.
[03:18] <seraph> MarcN: but the /boot is on hda2
[03:18] <seraph> that alright?
[03:18] <MarcN> seraph: possible to chain to a grub on a second disk from the NT bootloader, but I never bother with that.
[03:19] <bolrod> yes
[03:19] <bolrod> only
[03:19] <MarcN> seraph: part of grub lives in the MBR and config files are in /boot/grub
[03:19] <musik> MarcN, i dunno commands to decrypt things.onlu gui way
[03:19] <bolrod> if you install grub on primary disk.. you'll have problems if you want to remove linux
[03:19] <bolrod> you have to fix the MBR.. at least.. I had to do
[03:19] <defcon8_> musik, gpg
[03:19] <bolrod> with the xp or something cd-rom
[03:20] <kynes> how can I redirect stderr output to a file?
[03:20] <Micksa> dammit, why is breezy's grep so arse slow?
[03:20] <MarcN> musik: perhaps it is time to learn about the command line tools.
[03:20] <DShepherd> bolrod: yup that's right
[03:20] <seraph> aight
[03:20] <bolrod> :)
[03:20] <MarcN> kynes:   ls > this-is-stdout >2 this-is-stderr
[03:20] <DShepherd> has anyone ever installed grub on the secondary harddrive and it worked?
[03:20] <kynes> thank marcN
[03:20] <seraph> DShepherd: that doesn't sound encouraging
[03:20] <seraph> ;_;
[03:21] <bolrod> probably install it on the 2nd drive if you want to pull the other one out... but it doesn't sound logical
[03:21] <DShepherd> seraph: srry but I didnt mean to discourage you, but that's how it works
[03:21] <musik> Seven, thers no openpgp in repos.only gnome-gpg.......
[03:21] <seraph|drnka> so no way to install linxu to hda2 that works?
[03:21] <seraph|drnka> thats really backward somehow
[03:21] <kynes> I couldn't do it
[03:22] <kynes> marcN
[03:22] <brenner> any bmp users?
[03:22] <seraph|drnka> wth
[03:22] <seraph|drnka> I'll be the first!
[03:22] <Seven> musik, use gnome-gpg i guess its good enough
[03:22] <kynes> I'm trying  this
[03:22] <seraph|drnka> see you all later
[03:22] <kynes> make > mout
[03:22] <kynes> this gives .. "gcc ... etc."
[03:22] <kynes> but error stuff doesn't come
[03:22] <DShepherd> seraph|drnka: there's is a way to do ir
[03:22] <kynes> how should I do it?
[03:22] <DShepherd> it*
[03:22] <musik> i cant see the Debian menu.....although i installed menu package:(
[03:22] <seraph|drnka> DShepherd: I am googling
[03:23] <DShepherd> seraph|drnka: google is your fren!! :)
[03:23] <bolrod> why do you want the debian menu
[03:23] <MarcN> kynes: sorry, ls > this-is-stdout 2> this-is-stderr
[03:23] <seraph|drnka> aight
[03:23] <seraph|drnka> rebooting
[03:23] <bolrod> k
[03:23] <kynes> ok this worked
[03:23] <kynes> thanks marcN
[03:24] <varsedangger> any ideas on how to write a shel script that runs something as superuser
[03:24] <brenner> musik: use smeg?
[03:24] <MarcN> kynes: you can test like this:      ls /bogus/directory > foo 2> foobar     foo is empty (nothing to stdout) but foobar has "...no such directory".
[03:24] <Amaranth> brenner: it's called alacarte now :)
[03:24] <MarcN> varsedangger: put in a:          sudo /usr/sbin/somecommand     and sudo will prompt for a password
[03:24] <kynes> MarcN : thanks.. works
[03:25] <Amaranth> brenner: http://dev.realistanew.com/alacarte/releases/0.8/alacarte_0.8-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[03:25] <brenner> Amaranth: heh, neat. did you come up with it?
[03:25] <musik> brenner, but ive installed many non-gnome nonkde apps:(
[03:26] <brenner> musik: sorry. maybe i misunderstood you...i just remember seeing a debian menu disabled by default in smeg
[03:26] <musik> yippeeeeeeeeeee........now i see the Debian menu:)
[03:26] <musik> brenner, its ok.now i see the Debian menu:)
[03:27] <Micksa> has anyone heard anything about grep being slow?
[03:27] <brenner> musik: how'd you do it?
[03:27] <MarcN> Micksa: what are you grepping and for what
[03:27] <openbox> is there a way to add menus in openbox?
[03:27] <Micksa> just a straight string
[03:28] <openbox> so i can have shortcuts to my installed proggies?
[03:28] <Micksa> I'm checking it against a UML I have running on the same machine
[03:28] <robotgeek> openbox: use the program http://denu.sf.net to generate u one
[03:28] <MarcN> Micksa: slow disks?
[03:28] <Micksa> no
[03:28] <Micksa> all in cache
[03:28] <robotgeek> openbox: you can then manually edit it from ~/.config/openbox/menu.xml
[03:28] <musik> brenner, i did nothing.it came by itself.just install the package named menu from synaptic
[03:28] <openbox> thanx robotgeek
[03:28] <openbox> o awesome!
[03:28] <MarcN> Micksa: use fgrep if no regex
[03:29] <musik> what does it mean to be installed as SUID root? seahorse is asking me....
[03:30] <musik> what does it mean to be installed SUID root? seahorse is asking me....
[03:30] <MarcN> musik: binary will run as the file owner, typically root.  It is powerful magic. beware
[03:30] <Micksa> okay, this is a kinda stupid test but I think it counts...
[03:30] <Micksa> if I go:
[03:30] <Micksa> time dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=10000|grep -c sadflk
[03:30] <Micksa> on the box I get
[03:31] <Micksa> user    0m1.567s
[03:31] <robotgeek> Micksa: don't paste in here :)
[03:31] <Micksa> but running in a UML on the same machine I get
[03:31] <Micksa> user    0m0.160s
[03:31] <musik> MarcN, ok so i guess i shud disable it coz i want to run seahorse as normal user right?
[03:31] <sizzam> anyone ever encountered a file with a .TPB extension?
[03:32] <yannux> Hye everybody
[03:32] <brenner> sizzam: 'file <filename>'
[03:32] <nadjyla> hello
[03:32] <yannux> I've got a problem with ait drivers
[03:32] <yannux> I did apt-get install kernel-headers
[03:32] <MarcN> musik: I know nothing about seahorse.  Sometimes apps need to be suid to have priv access to devices, like cdburners.
[03:32] <yannux> but ati installer did not find Makefile on it
[03:32] <openbox> it seems that sourceforge page is down but illl mess with it later... thanx again robotgeek
[03:32] <sizzam> thanks!
[03:33] <robotgeek> brenner: thanks, i din't know that!
[03:33] <musik> MarcN, seahorse is a gui encrypting tool.....like kgpg
[03:33] <Micksa> could be an fs-related thing....
[03:33] <brenner> sizzam: what is it ooi?
[03:33] <MarcN> musik: /me installs seahorse.   (sudo apt-get install seahorse)
[03:33] <morgs^^>  sudo mount -o asdf.iso /cdrom         <-----    is that right for mounting ???
[03:33] <robotgeek> openbox: google for denu,
[03:33] <eedge> I'm running  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but I'm getting these errors: http://pastebin.com/414745... eeek?
[03:33] <robotgeek> openbox: i pulled up link from memory
[03:33] <brenner> robotgeek: woo, i educated someone for once. :)
[03:33] <MarcN> morgs^^: sudo mount -o loop asdf.iso /mnt
[03:34] <robotgeek> brenner: much appreciated :)
[03:34] <morgs^^> ahh    cheers
[03:34] <Micksa> I'm using XFS
[03:34] <Micksa> because I know no fear
[03:34] <MarcN> musik: I'd follow the deb suggestion and allow suid access
[03:34] <kynes> is there a way to remove the "configuring network ... " stuff in the opening in ubuntu ?
[03:34] <kynes> you know, it waits for nothing
[03:34] <robotgeek> kynes: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces and comment the lines with auto
[03:34] <musik> MarcN, but id want to run seahorse as normal user...........
[03:34] <brenner> yannux: there's an fglrx driver in the repo....unless you require the latest driver, i suggest you use that one
[03:35] <brenner> much easier to install
[03:35] <drcode> hi all
[03:35] <robotgeek> kynes: for example, auto eth0 to stop eth0 from being brought up. don't mess with lo though
[03:35] <brenner> !ati
[03:35] <ubotu> well, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[03:35] <drcode> can I use IRC client to work from proxy?
[03:36] <nadjyla> yes
[03:36] <robotgeek> drcode: i believe irssi can work with a proxy, not sure though
[03:36] <MarcN> musik: that is the point of suid.  As a normal user, suid of root, will let the app run as if it was root.
[03:36] <Micksa> nope. it's grep.
[03:36] <Micksa> hasn't anybody else noticed this?
[03:36] <kynes> there is an "auto lo" in my file
[03:36] <kynes> is it normal?
[03:36] <robotgeek> kynes: yes, don't mess with that :)
[03:36] <yannux> brenner, need the latest, no 1280x800 with the ubuntu packaged driver :s
[03:36] <kynes> ok
[03:36] <eedge> I'm running  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but I'm getting these errors: http://pastebin.com/414745... eeek?
[03:36] <kynes> thanks
[03:36] <drcode> thanx
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> eedge: looking
[03:37] <brenner> yannux: are you sure?  have you tried the res fix?
[03:37] <yannux> brenner, what is it ?
[03:37] <nadjyla> eedge,
[03:37] <brenner> !resfix
[03:37] <ubotu> brenner: Are you smoking crack?
[03:37] <nadjyla> eedge, check your sources list
[03:37] <brenner> whoops
[03:37] <brenner> !fixres
[03:37] <ubotu> [fixres]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> eedge: check you have main still
[03:37] <brenner> yannux: make sure you back up your xorg.conf file
[03:38] <yannux> brenner, ok )
[03:38] <robotgeek> eedge: can u also paste ur sources.list ?
[03:38] <nadjyla> maybe you have too many sources. better if you have only the three sources ubuntu.com
[03:38] <musik> why gnome in ubuntu doesnt give any icons to my kde apps???
[03:38] <brenner> basically, try entering the res on the mode line, and check your monitor rates are correct
[03:38] <musik> in the menu.........
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> eedge: try apt-get -f install on it's own
[03:38] <aftertaf> nadjyla> sources list is ok... i have it.... and it works.
[03:39] <yannux> brenner, yes its good, it has already be good
[03:39] <aftertaf> eedge> Kamping_Kaiser is right.. d'oh !
[03:39] <yannux> but I reinstall and :s
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> then give us errors from that eedge :)
[03:39] <nadjyla> yes Kamping_Kaiser . repair broken
[03:39] <EvilPaddy> Anyone know if its possible to view visio docs on ubuntu?
[03:40] <MarcN> EvilPaddy: not possible.
[03:40] <MarcN> EvilPaddy: a similar, but different file format, is dia
[03:40] <musik> ubuntu doesnt give icons to my kde apps in menu??
[03:40] <eedge> ok, sorry, phone call... I'll try sudo apt-get install on its own :)
[03:40] <nadjyla> musik= check debian menu
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> eedge: sudo apt-get -f install
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> the -f is important
[03:41] <eedge> oh right, yeah :)
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[03:41] <Riddell> musik: it's a KDE bug, I fixed it in KDE 3.5
[03:41] <musik> nadjyla, its there in menu.but no kaffeine icon next to it
[03:41] <nadjyla> or use synaptic=> fix broken
[03:41] <eedge> my sources.list is same as aftertaf's its:
[03:41] <HorzA> where can i change the url in clock update in boot?
[03:41] <eedge> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted universe multiverse
[03:41] <eedge> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[03:41] <eedge> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[03:41] <eedge> ^ thats all I have in sources.
[03:42] <musik> Riddell, kde bug??? im in edubuntu:)
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> minimalist, but complete
[03:42] <aftertaf> ^y simplified concise version :)
[03:42] <nadjyla> eedge, fixbroken
[03:42] <MarcN> HorzA: /etc/ntp/step-tickers I believe
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> eedge: add in a cc. in front of archive.ubuntu
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> reduce server load
[03:42] <EvilPaddy> MarcN, No way at all of viewing them..?
[03:42] <eedge> er... 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 694 not upgraded.
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> eedge: when did you get that?
[03:43] <eedge> just now.
[03:43] <eedge> with apt-get install
[03:43] <eedge> with the -f.
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> -f ?
[03:43] <HorzA> marcn, dont have ntp folder
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> k
[03:43] <MarcN> EvilPaddy: nope.  you may be able to under windows save to some format that dia and import.  Don't know
[03:43] <meheren_> im kinda new at ubuntu can somone tell me how to set up wine?
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> eedge: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:43] <eedge> ok
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> (i am asuming you updated your sources list after changing repos?)
[03:44] <MarcN> HorzA: /etc/ntp.conf
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> meheren_: 'set up'?
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> sudo apt-get install wine
[03:44] <eedge> I get to the Do you want to continue [Y/n] ?
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> or more advanced stuff?
[03:44] <MarcN> HorzA: I use too many flavors of linux and was thinking redhat
[03:44] <HorzA> hehe :)
[03:44] <eedge> ... should I just do Y and hope for the bestest? :)
[03:44] <MagicFab> hello from Montreal
[03:44] <EvilPaddy> MarcN, Whats your opinion on these apps like, Lin4Win & Wine etc.. ? Ive heard free Wine isnt very good
[03:44] <MagicFab> A quickie... how can I change font size for GTK+ apps (not GTK2) ?
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> EvilPaddy: it depends what you want to do wit it
[03:45] <MagicFab> gtk-theme-switch segfaults!
[03:45] <robotgeek> MagicFab: file a bug, and if possible attach a trace
[03:46] <eedge> I did y on upgrade.
[03:46] <MagicFab> robotgeek: I'm kind of rusty on that... how do I get a trace ?
[03:46] <musik> im not able to start amarok.splash i see.then it disapears
[03:46] <MarcN> EvilPaddy: I really don't use windows apps that much.  Using autostitch (google it) under wine is fine.  Not tried installing something like MS office into a wine instance.  Bought CrossOver Office years ago (commericalized wine) but find I don't need to use Office that much.  OpenOffice is very good at read/writing word/excel/powerpoint slides that I get/produce.
[03:46] <beezly> i'm in a meeting soon at work about what linux distro we pick as our "enterprise" server distribution - and I'm keen to promote ubuntu - can any one point me in a direction of information advocating ubuntu to enterprises
[03:46] <eedge> seems to be going ok
[03:46] <brenner> robotgeek: your turn to teach _me_ something :) trace?
[03:46] <robotgeek> MagicFab: i google for it everytime! so nuck, brenner
[03:47] <MagicFab> beezly: are you planning on using LTSP or just as file/mail/web server ?
[03:47] <MarcN> beezly: the key to 'enterprise' is support.  Does UbuntuLinux Inc now provide 365 24x7 support?  I just don't know.
[03:47] <beezly> MagicFab: all sorts of servers
[03:47] <aftertaf> beezly> very stable. based on debian. security patches released within hours. free....
[03:47] <tazoube> bijour, youk youk, salut, hola,....
[03:47] <robotgeek> it's strace, apparently!
[03:47] <tazoube> et re
[03:47] <beezly> MagicFab: we're talking across the board here
[03:47] <MagicFab> beezly: lots of development regarding local support of devices (ex. USB) are being targeted for drapper
[03:48] <MagicFab> oups :)
[03:48] <beezly> MagicFab: less interested in LTSP :)
[03:48] <MagicFab> dapper, I believe
[03:48] <adrian15> Hello, is there any ubuntu live cd developer, or cd developer to whom I could talk? I have a tool for making easier the Reinstallation of Grub and you might be interested.
[03:48] <EvilPaddy> Kamping_Kaiser, MarcN , I want to run Visio - tech director here uses Visio for spec/app flow etc
[03:48] <aftertaf> adrian15> goto #ubuntu-dev
[03:48] <MagicFab> adrian: /join #ubz , most of the devs are currently discussing specs about that, among others
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> EvilPaddy: what is it?
[03:49] <MagicFab> discussing, meaning face to face, but most probably some are on IRC
[03:49] <adrian15> MagicFab, Thank you.
[03:49] <robotgeek> brenner,MagicFab :http://gaim.sourceforge.net/gdb.php
[03:49] <MarcN> EvilPaddy: you may want to try using qemu, installing windows  + visio into that
[03:49] <eedge> it appears this upgrade is going to take some time :)
[03:50] <eedge> lol
[03:50] <MarcN> EvilPaddy: or pony up for a vmware license.
[03:50] <robotgeek> EvilPaddy: i tht vmware was free now?
[03:51] <MarcN> robotgeek: the vmplayer is free.  Can't create new vmware instances.
[03:51] <beezly> MarcN: according to the website, Canonical do provide support
[03:51] <MagicFab> adrian15: you may want to check the various specs veing discussed on LaunchPad.net first
[03:51] <meheren_> can any1 tell me how to install wine for breezy?
[03:51] <meheren_> i need help
[03:51] <brenner> robotgeek: ah, gdb...how silly of me
[03:51] <varsedangger> did you try apt-getting it?
[03:51] <MarcN> beezly: then give it a try.  Another thing to consider is hw support.
[03:51] <robotgeek> MarcN: hah, i don't use it anyways
[03:51] <MagicFab> meheren_:  using Synaptic, search for the "wine" package, select it, apply
[03:51] <adrian15> MagicFab, 503 service unavailable
[03:51] <meheren_> i did that
[03:51] <robotgeek> I have a 'FREE' system, thanks to PPC!
[03:52] <meheren_> but now i can't find the program to use it
[03:52] <varsedangger> you may need to update your sources.list
[03:52] <meheren_> where would it be?
[03:52] <MagicFab> adrian15: I see that :)
[03:52] <nadjyla> type wine +....exe meheren_
[03:52] <CaBlGuY> mronin peeps.  o/
[03:52] <meheren_> in terminal?
[03:52] <varsedangger> meheren_, go to a terminal and do that
[03:52] <CaBlGuY> ummm  mornin even..
[03:52] <meheren_> ok
[03:52] <varsedangger> ...
[03:52] <MagicFab> adrian15: actually Launchpad.net is used to register to specs and schedule them, etc
[03:53] <MagicFab> all are on the wiki
[03:53] <MagicFab> start at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBelowZero
[03:53] <meheren_> it says command not found
[03:53] <brenner> anyone heard of no sound in quicktime movies using totem(-xine)?
[03:53] <robotgeek> brenner: the newer quicktimes need w32codecs, AFAIK
[03:53] <CaBlGuY> brenner,  no, but the first install I did, didn't have any sound
[03:54] <MagicFab> This pre-ubz draft has links to most of them:
[03:54] <MagicFab> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBelowZero/BOFs
[03:54] <CaBlGuY> brainball,  u running breezy?
[03:54] <Samhain`> are ubuntu distros unstable?
[03:54] <CaBlGuY> errr   brenner  I ment..
[03:54] <varsedangger> meheren_, just type win and then tab
[03:54] <brenner> CaBlGuY: was that a dirty remark...or is it just me?
[03:54] <ompaul> Samhain`, no
[03:54] <CaBlGuY> dang fingers..
[03:54] <adrian15> MagicFab, Ah,... ubz, I thought that it was an irc channel for developers... not a meeting in Montreal. Ah
[03:54] <Samhain`> I must have had unstable because there were a ton more packages than in debian stable
[03:54] <varsedangger> if it doesn't auto complete then wine isn't set up yet
[03:54] <nadjyla> if you want to emulate something easy, try with foobar . it s easy meheren_
[03:54] <brenner> robotgeek: got them....qt movies play, i just don't get no sound
[03:55] <MagicFab> well, ubz is also the channel where people attending ubz are... :)
[03:55] <CaBlGuY> brenner,  I was asking what version yur running..  hedghog, or breezy..
[03:55] <brenner> CaBlGuY: no i meant your fingers thing..nvm...breezy
[03:55] <K_Dallas> in the sources.list, should i uncomment the backport lines to get tetex? or there is another repository that i have to add?
[03:55] <robotgeek> brenner: it's been a while since i played anything quicktime on breezy
[03:55] <brenner> avis, mpgs all work fine...just qt movies it seems
[03:55] <jasonb_> hi my ubuntu install just crashed and i havent done anything all i remember is putting a dvd. i just rebooted it and its now in command line mode displaying "UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY" and fsck failed.  now i want to run these commands but i dont want to make things worse so it would be erally great if anyone could walk me through? thanks in advance this is big time
[03:55] <CaBlGuY> brenner,  ummmm   I JUST woke up, Im not all here yet.. ;)
[03:56] <eedge> silly question, but how do I create destop links to folders and files?
[03:56] <CaBlGuY> and I was explaining my fingers don't work good (on the keyboard) when I first get up...
[03:56] <varsedangger> what is foobar?
[03:56] <ompaul> Samhain`, ubuntu breezy was SID in April, cleaned up and popped out
[03:56] <brenner> CaBlGuY: nvm, i guess i have a dirtier mind than i thoughr. :)
[03:56] <CaBlGuY> varsedangger,  it's actaully fubar..
[03:56] <BeGu> eedge, would it be same as right click -> create laucher
[03:57] <brenner> CaBlGuY: yeah, i was thinking of something else apparently. :D
[03:57] <CaBlGuY> brenner,  that could be a good thing depending on yur employment.. :p
[03:57] <eedge> The options always blanked out...
[03:57] <meheren_> can any1 tell me how to install itunes+quicktime for breezy?
[03:57] <eedge> grayed if you will.
[03:57] <MarcN> jasonb_: run fsck /dev/hda1 (or which ever it complained about)  and accept the defaults about fixing the disk.
[03:57] <meheren_> i got the windows install packet
[03:57] <MagicFab> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar
[03:57] <CaBlGuY> varsedangger,  I could tell you what it means, but it's got some "nasty" words in there.. :p
[03:57] <robotgeek> K_Dallas: you don't need to add anything, try sudo apt-get install tetex-bin
[03:58] <CaBlGuY> so anyway brenner  u needing help with your sound?
[03:58] <doyley>  ok a small question i have a 40gb hardrive (fat32) which ineed 20 gb of can i split it and install linux on half?
[03:58] <bozel> hi
[03:58] <EvilPaddy> ive installed wine, how do I fire it up?
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> EvilPaddy, wine
[03:58] <brenner> robotgeek: he wants tetex3
[03:58] <MarcN> EvilPaddy: wine somewindows.exe
[03:58] <bozel> if i login with root(f.e. in synaptec) it says
[03:58] <bozel> Failed to run /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator:
[03:58] <bozel>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[03:58] <brenner> CaBlGuY: well, if you've got a fix, then yeah, i sure do
[03:58] <bozel> what should i do?
[03:59] <eedge> BeGu, tg
[03:59] <drcode> hi all
[03:59] <meheren_> can some1 tell me howto get quicktime?
[03:59] <MagicFab> meheren_: Check in the wiki
[03:59] <eedge> BeGu, the options always blanked out.
[03:59] <MagicFab> ! RestrictedFormats
[03:59] <meheren_> ?
[03:59] <ubotu> restrictedformats is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[03:59] <robotgeek> K_Dallas: latex3?
[03:59] <eedge> for make link
[03:59] <CaBlGuY> brenner,  LOL  well, im no Ubuntu god but, if ya tell me what yur tryin to do, I may be able to point u in the right dirextion..
[03:59] <K_Dallas> robotgeek, it seems that i hadnt done an update :(
[03:59] <drcode> any one mybe know IRC client for linux  (console) that support proxy?
[03:59] <MagicFab> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:59] <meheren_> sry im kinda new what is the wiki?
[03:59] <robotgeek> K_Dallas: ah okay
[03:59] <K_Dallas> robotgeek, tetex3: is there a way to get it?
[03:59] <EvilPaddy> MarcN, wickedpuppy, command not found :-(
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> EvilPaddy, then you got no wine :P
[03:59] <funkyHat> does Xfce use xcompmgr? or does it do transparency/drop shadows a different way?
[03:59] <MagicFab> meheren_: A wiki is a website that people can edit very easily
[03:59] <brenner> CaBlGuY: i thought i did....no sound in qt movies. using totem-xine, w32codecs installed
[03:59] <jasonb_> MarcN thanks ill try that out can you hang in there? i cant afford to lose all my data residing in my ubuntu install
[04:00] <MagicFab> meheren_: Many people collaborate to produce content
[04:00] <CaBlGuY> !tell meheren_ about quicktime
[04:00] <MarcN> EvilPaddy: try: which wine   for me it is in /usr/bin/wine
[04:00] <MagicFab> !tell MagicFab about quicktime
[04:00] <MarcN> jasonb_: I'll be here, but that is the standard thing to do -- fsck /dev/whichever and take the defaults to repair blocks, inodes, etc
[04:00] <CaBlGuY> brenner,  ok..  hang on lemme think a sec..  u need more codecs.. hang on.
[04:01] <robotgeek> drcode: http://irssi.org/?page=docs&doc=proxy
[04:01] <MarcN> jasonb_: I've done it many, many times and only lost data 1) bad, failing disk or 2) data I wanted was just tried to written to disk at crashtime.
[04:01] <CaBlGuY> brenner, ok, u know how to use the help guide and apt-get??
[04:01] <MagicFab> CaBlGuY: could you brief me on other shortcuts to help people here ?
[04:02] <MarcN> jasonb_: and when I wasn't using a journaled file system.
[04:02] <reter> how can i check what kind of mb my memory/ram is on this machine
[04:02] <MagicFab> CaBlGuY: or point me to the right place on the wiki :)
[04:02] <brenner> yup
[04:02] <jasonb_> MarcN im using ext2 for my linux
[04:02] <K_Dallas> reter, open the case, get a flash light and explore
[04:02] <CaBlGuY> MagicFab, gimme a sec...  helpin brenner just now
[04:02] <MarcN> reter: free -m
[04:02] <DShepherd> K_Dallas: lol
[04:02] <MarcN> jasonb_: you will probably be okay.
[04:03] <CaBlGuY> brenner U know hot to use the help and apt-get??
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> reter, you can also cat /proc/meminfo
[04:03] <brenner> !tell MagicFab about ubotu
[04:03] <robotgeek> MagicFab: also a good place is ubuntu.cc.com.au , which is the ubotu factoid page
[04:03] <MagicFab> reter: RIght click on your top panel (for example), "Add to Panel" , choose "system monitor" then double click on it
[04:03] <brenner> CaBlGuY: i answered you already, yes
[04:03] <CaBlGuY> !tell MagicFab about shortcuts
[04:03] <MagicFab> reter: you'll get several indicators of system resources (CPU, disk, networking)
[04:03] <CaBlGuY> brenner my bad.  lots of peeps..
[04:03] <MagicFab> CaBlGuY: :D tx
[04:03] <brenner> CaBlGuY: i'm not really a novice....just tell me which packages if that's it
[04:04] <brenner> CaBlGuY: no, i should have highlighted it
[04:04] <CaBlGuY> brenner, ok, open up the help and go to satarter guide>apps>music and movies
[04:05] <CaBlGuY> brenner, ok, just go there and inmstall all those codecs..
[04:05] <CaBlGuY> and once ya get em all installed, u need to register gstream
[04:05] <brenner> heh. logical
[04:05] <CaBlGuY> wurd.
[04:05] <CaBlGuY> :)
[04:05] <brenner> what does registering do?
[04:06] <DShepherd> MagicFab: what's the commmand to lauch that system monitor
[04:06] <DShepherd> ?
[04:06] <CaBlGuY> brenner, it's like ummm  turning the package "on" once it's installed
[04:06] <robotgeek> brenner: apparently, it's like service has to register it's presence or something funky like that!
[04:06] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[04:07] <brenner> weird, i never registered the mad package, and it works
[04:07] <CaBlGuY> yeH somethih funky.
[04:07] <DShepherd> MagicFab: Ok...I found it gnome-system-monitor
[04:07] <robotgeek> brenner: though, it would be nice to have gstreamer autoregister itself, or handled by debconf
[04:07] <seraph|drnka> good evening
[04:07] <MagicFab> DShepherd: there's no command, it will appear on your top tool bar
[04:07] <seraph|drnka> apparently installing to hda2 works like a charm
[04:07] <adrian15> Coming back. Is Ubuntu installation cdrom boot based on Isolinux ?
[04:07] <jasonb_> MarcN its asking me to remount and after i did it goes to the same command line prompt after booting
[04:07] <seraph|drnka> so whats the latest release?
[04:08] <seraph|drnka> brezzy?
[04:08] <seraph|drnka> breezy?
[04:08] <DShepherd> MagicFab: :d there is a command
[04:08] <MagicFab> DShepherd: sorry, misunderstood
[04:08] <EvilPaddy> MarcN, Are you running wine?
[04:08] <robotgeek> seraph|drnka: breezy, 5.10
[04:08] <CaBlGuY> MagicFab get the shortcuts thing down?
[04:08] <seraph|drnka> ah shit
[04:08] <seraph|drnka> means a ton of upgrades
[04:08] <DShepherd> MagicFab: that;s kool
[04:08] <MarcN> EvilPaddy: occasionally for random small windows apps
[04:08] <MagicFab> CaBlGuY: most excellent stuff, TX!
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> EvilPaddy, wine is /usr/bin/wine ... if you got it by synaptic
[04:08] <CaBlGuY> seraph|drnka,  what u mean??  just do apt-get updates
[04:08] <MarcN> jasonb_: did you fsck the disk it was complaining about (probably the / partition)
[04:08] <brenner> robotgeek: what if i am naughty and don't register?
[04:09] <robotgeek> seraph|drnka: look at /topic, and the link to breezy upgrades
[04:09] <seraph|drnka> CaBlGuY: to dist upgrade
[04:09] <EvilPaddy> MarcN, wickedpuppy, I have wine installed now, just tried to run PuTTY, worked fine.. How would I run something like visio/outlook?
[04:09] <seraph|drnka> means a ton of updates to download
[04:09] <MarcN> EvilPaddy: you'
[04:09] <robotgeek> brenner: i dunno, i never did. i apparently don't use gstreamer!
[04:09] <MagicFab> !tell MagicFab about nvidia
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> EvilPaddy, you want those .. get crossover
[04:09] <EvilPaddy> MarcN, wickedpuppy, PuTTY as Im sure you know is  astandalone app..
[04:09] <CaBlGuY> seraph|drnka,  well, depending on what distro u got and what yurn tryin to upgrade..
[04:09] <seraph|drnka> CaBlGuY: I got hoary
[04:09] <MarcN> EvilPaddy: you'll have to 'install it' then run it.  putty.exe is just a single program.  That is all I really use wine for -- simple single .exe programs.
[04:09] <CaBlGuY> have you uopdated yur repos?
[04:10] <seraph|drnka> right o f the CD
[04:10] <seraph|drnka> nope
[04:10] <CaBlGuY> seraph|drnka,  update yur reops.
[04:10] <EvilPaddy> MarcN, Do you install apps into Wine?
[04:10] <robotgeek> seraph|drnka: look at /topic, link to wiki tells u how to do it!
[04:10] <CaBlGuY> !tell seraph|drnka  about update repos
[04:10] <seraph|drnka> aight
[04:10] <MagicFab> !tell MagicFab about DVD
[04:10] <CaBlGuY> !tell seraph|drnka  about repos
[04:10] <CaBlGuY> try that..  :p
[04:10] <MarcN> EvilPaddy: yeah.  run wine ./the-installer.exe from the cd or wherever
[04:10] <robotgeek> !msg
[04:10] <ubotu> please don't /msg people or start a personal message/ dcc chat without asking first in channel. People might be busy, and you have a better chance of an answer in the channel. Don't assume a particular user will be able to help you.
[04:10] <MarcN> EvilPaddy: you will have a ~/.wine or such directory
[04:11] <robotgeek> damn, what's the message /ubotu thing?
[04:11] <EvilPaddy> MarcN, It will be kept in there?
[04:11] <jasonb_> MarcN i cant remember the volume where i installed the linux... how do i determine that? and what would happen if i try to fsck the wrong volume? thanks man
[04:11] <MarcN> EvilPaddy: yeah.
[04:11] <adrian15> MagicFab, Can you look a moment at http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/ and tell me what do you think about it? If Ubuntu is isolinux based we could integrate it with GSD.
[04:11] <MagicFab> robotgeek: !tell is a special command picked up by a "bot" on this channel
[04:11] <robotgeek> !msgthebot
[04:11] <MarcN> jasonb_: on boot it should tell you.  There is no problem fsck'ing a partion that is already clean.  Just make sure it isn't mounted.
[04:11] <nadjyla> jasonb_, check /etc/fstab
[04:11] <Kimm> hello all :)
[04:12] <MagicFab> robotgeek: it searches a database of "factoids" and sends the intended person the information, privately
[04:12] <CaBlGuY> robotgeek,  what are you needing??
[04:12] <robotgeek> MagicFab: i know, been here quite for some time :)
[04:12] <CaBlGuY> or trying to do?
[04:12] <robotgeek> I was try to point out that you can /msg ubotu factoid too
[04:12] <CaBlGuY> Oh..
[04:12] <BeGu> can I delete a directory using sudo? with what command?
[04:12] <jasonb_> nadjyla i tried the "check /etc/fstab" but its saying command not found
[04:12] <Kimm> sudo rm -rf
[04:12] <nadjyla> no
[04:12] <ufd_> does anyone know if it is possible to run in "dual screen mode" in xorg with Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 ?
[04:12] <MagicFab> robotgeek: :D what was the question then
[04:12] <CaBlGuY> BeGu,  yep, but immnopt the cammonsd hang on
[04:12] <nadjyla> check is not a commandline
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> !tell BeGu  about directories
[04:13] <robotgeek> MagicFab: read !msgthebot
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> !tell BeGu  about dir
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> Hmm
[04:13] <MagicFab> adrian15: looking at it
[04:13] <robotgeek> MagicFab: or /msg ubotu msgthebot :)
[04:13] <BeGu> Kimm, thanks
[04:13] <bolrod> !damn
[04:13] <ubotu> bolrod: No idea
[04:13] <bolrod> indeed
[04:13] <bolrod> me neither
[04:13] <BeGu> CaBlGuY, nothing happened ...
[04:14] <ArdieM> how can i setup a command to a keykombination?? (iptables command)
[04:14] <CaBlGuY> BeGu,  yeah I knw..
[04:14] <CaBlGuY> I'm tryin to get u to the wiki on Directories
[04:14] <CaBlGuY> !ubotu
[04:14] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:15] <bolrod> !solve illness
[04:15] <ubotu> bolrod: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:15] <robotgeek> !botabuse
[04:15] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[04:15] <bolrod> O_O?  do I want to play with ubotu ?
[04:16] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[04:16] <brenner> seems like it
[04:16] <MagicFab> adrian15: what did you want to do with that, I mean related to U. ?
[04:16] <CaBlGuY> anyone know the command for the bot for directories?
[04:16] <lembranca> #apache
[04:16] <bolrod> what about directories
[04:16] <bolrod> ?
[04:16] <CaBlGuY> Or tell BeGu  how to el a dir..
[04:16] <bolrod> rm -r
[04:16] <bolrod> rm <dir> -r
[04:16] <CaBlGuY> there ya go BeGu
[04:16] <bolrod> or if its empty  (and safer)
[04:16] <bolrod> rmdir <dir>
[04:17] <rmulliga> Hey is the sources.list for breezy the same for i386 and amd64?
[04:17] <lembranca> hhow do i connecte to apache chat room again ??
[04:17] <CaBlGuY> BeGu,  u get that??
[04:17] <bolrod>  /join #apache ?
[04:17] <MagicFab> adrian15: Launchpad.net is back
[04:17] <lembranca> THANKS
[04:17] <jasonb_> MarcN nadjyla thanks i got to boot my Ubuntu again... that was scary i thought i was gonna lose all my porn
[04:17] <CaBlGuY> !tell BeGu  about rm
[04:18] <MagicFab> !help
[04:18] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[04:18] <nadjyla> lol
[04:18] <jasonb_> that was a joke by the way i mean the porn part
[04:18] <MarcN> jasonb_: I'm glad your porn is safe ;-)
[04:18] <nadjyla> undestand np
[04:18] <CaBlGuY> lol
[04:18] <robotgeek> jasonb_: it's quite alright to have pron, i maintain mine in a cvs. how about you? :)
[04:18] <K_Dallas> Q: is there an easy way to get xemacs on ubuntu (instead of emacs or along with it) ? thanks
[04:19] <MarcN> robotgeek: public cvs server? ;-)
[04:19] <CaBlGuY> over my head..
[04:19] <CaBlGuY> K_Dallas,  u check the wiki on the page?
[04:19] <robotgeek> K_Dallas: you can do a package search using apt-cache search <package> or at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:19] <MarcN> K_Dallas: xemacs is evil.
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[04:20] <seraph|drnka> alrighjt
[04:20] <seraph|drnka> remove GNOME
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> everyone answer @ once..
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> ready..
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> GO!
[04:20] <K_Dallas> i am just used to it, so what is the harm of it ;)
[04:20] <seraph|drnka> dist upgrade
[04:20] <seraph|drnka> install kde
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:20] <K_Dallas> CaBlGuY, robotgeek , checking those, thank you
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> wurd..
[04:20] <robotgeek> MarcN: just kidding, it's a good though though
[04:20] <MarcN> K_Dallas: just use emacs.  It has an X interface (if your DISPLAY is set properly)
[04:20] <robotgeek> /thogh/thought
[04:20] <MagicFab> Dapper approved specs are at https://launchpad.net/sprints/ubz
[04:21] <K_Dallas> MarcN, i rather stick to what i know best (well better;)
[04:21] <jasonb_> night beautiful people of ubuntu
[04:21] <MarcN> robotgeek: ever see the debian porn-get?  porn-get update && porn-get upgrade && porn-cache search blondes
[04:21] <MagicFab> Where can I find Dapper specs ?
[04:21] <CaBlGuY> c-ya jasonb_  o/
[04:21] <MarcN> K_Dallas: just install xemacs21
[04:21] <MagicFab> Information about Dapper specs is at https://launchpad.net/sprints/ubz
[04:21] <rapha> Hi all!
[04:21] <robotgeek> I think the ops will remind us to take that to #ubuntu-offtopics :)
[04:21] <rapha> How do you enable the XTEST extension under Ubuntu?
[04:21] <K_Dallas> MarcN, i didnt find it in synaptic
[04:22] <MagicFab> Where can I find Dapper specs ?
[04:22] <MarcN> K_Dallas:  apt-cache search ^xemacs  finds it for me.
[04:22] <K_Dallas> ok,  i will try it again
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> Mornin nalioth  o/
[04:22] <dandelion> hello
[04:22] <bolrod> hello
[04:22] <seraph|drnka> how the heck do I remove pacages without it installing new stuff?
[04:23] <bolrod> ?
[04:23] <MagicFab> seraph|drnka: which packages ?
[04:23] <bolrod> apt-get remove
[04:23] <bolrod> ?
[04:23] <dandelion> I have a laptop which cdrom drive is dead. How can I install ubuntu on it?
[04:23] <seraph|drnka> I want to get rid of GNOME completely
[04:23] <seraph|drnka> but it wants to upgrade [paciages at the same time
[04:23] <highvoltage> apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop?
[04:23] <seraph|drnka> highvoltage: no
[04:23] <seraph|drnka> that removes the metapackages
[04:23] <seraph|drnka> not the actual packages
[04:23] <bolrod> apt-get remove gnome*  ?
[04:24] <bolrod> gets rid of alot of gnome stuff
[04:24] <brainheadz> hi
[04:24] <bolrod> :)
[04:24] <MarcN> dandelion: if you are advanced maybe using pxe boot.
[04:24] <MagicFab> dandelion: boot from USB
[04:24] <CaBlGuY> Howdy brainheadz   o/
[04:25] <rapha> Does nobody know about XTEST?
[04:25] <dandelion> MagicFab: can I just 'dd' the iso over a raw usb device (like /dev/sda) and boot that? well, I'll try ;)
[04:25] <brenner> dandelion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[04:25] <MarcN> rapha: xdpyinfo says my server supports xtest
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> brainheadz,  anything we can  help u with today?
[04:26] <brenner> see advanced install stuff on that page i guess
[04:26] <nalioth> seraph|drnka: i would suspect trying to remove gnome totally will botch your system
[04:26] <MagicFab> !tell dandelion about install
[04:26] <MarcN> rapha: xdpyinfo that is
[04:26] <Ng> nalioth: depends how you define botch, but you could put the system to the equivalent state of a server install and it'd be ok
[04:26] <EvilPaddy> wow, wine is pretty handy
[04:27] <dandelion> MagicFab: thanks
[04:27] <MarcN> xd
[04:27] <dr_willis> EvilPaddy,  been using Cedega Myself mainly
[04:27] <lembranca> some one can help me to set up htaccess permission for a apache server on ubuntu to protect some specific directories
[04:27] <lembranca> ?
[04:27] <CaBlGuY> EvilPaddy,  doin good 4 u??
[04:27] <MarcN> lembranca: simple. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/htaccess.html
[04:27] <EvilPaddy> dr_willis, Cedega is this a similar solution to Wine? Free or Non-free?
[04:27] <CaBlGuY> !tell lembranca  about htaccess
[04:28] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[04:28] <nalioth> EvilPaddy: there is a free version
[04:28] <dr_willis> EvilPaddy,  cedega is designed with games in mind. The cvs versionis free.. comercial version is fairly cheep. $5 a mo.
[04:28] <CaBlGuY> bot needs some updating.. :p
[04:28] <EvilPaddy> CaBlGuY, Just installed text editor, now for the big test..Visio, big ass cpu intensive app
[04:28] <Ng> seraph|drnka: tsk! ;)
[04:29] <EvilPaddy> dr_willis, what about gfx issues with cedega?
[04:29] <seraph|drnka> Ng: I want my mummy
[04:29] <Marlowe> EvilPaddy - Visio is known to work on Crossover Office - so I don't think you'll have any problems
[04:29] <K_Dallas> MarcN, apt-cache search ^xemacs  didnt bring anything here!
[04:29] <dr_willis> EvilPaddy,  they got many of the top games working nicely.
[04:29] <EvilPaddy> Marlowe, Cool, glad to hear that..
[04:30] <Whistler> hello
[04:30] <seraph|drnka> I wonder if outlook will work on WINE
[04:30] <Whistler> i connected another hdd to my pc
[04:30] <CaBlGuY> LOL  EvilPaddy  good luck...  ;o)
[04:30] <Whistler> i wanna mount fat32 fs from that hdd
[04:30] <MarcN> K_Dallas: strange.  I'm on dapper but surprised it isn't in earlier.
[04:30] <Whistler> its /dev/hdc
[04:30] <robotgeek> K_Dallas: u need to enable universe repos
[04:30] <robotgeek> !tell K_Dallas about repos
[04:30] <Whistler> and i allways get an error msg
[04:30] <Whistler> anybody can help me?
[04:31] <K_Dallas> thanks robotgeek (it has been a while since the last time i used ubuntu;)
[04:31] <Whistler> sudo mount /dev/hdc /home/admin/Desktop/vilius -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[04:31] <Whistler> get me mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /home/admin/Desktop/vilius busy
[04:31] <Whistler> any ideas?
[04:31] <Marlowe> seraph|drnka Just checked codeweavers site, they support outlook so it's all good
[04:31] <teimu> i would like to set my grub to not have a timeout. basically i want it to just wait for my input. will #'ing the  'timeout' line remove the timeout feature in the menu.lst?
[04:31] <seraph|drnka> Marlowe:wow
[04:31] <Whistler> anybody?
[04:32] <Marlowe> http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxoffice/supported_apps/
[04:32] <MagicFab> teimu: I'd say set it to 0
[04:32] <roel_> Hi, somehow and somewhy my sound doesn't work on Ubuntu.
[04:32] <Whistler> anybody?
[04:32] <CaBlGuY> Whistler,  what are you tryin to do?
[04:32] <robotgeek> Whistler: your best best is to post the entire error msg to pastebin, and post the link here, and wait!
[04:33] <robotgeek> Ah, see..some at it already :)
[04:33] <MagicFab> roel_: do you hear it at boot or it's not working at all ?
[04:33] <CaBlGuY> !tell Whistler  about pastebin
[04:33] <rapha> !tell rapha about pastebin
[04:33] <roel_> MagicFab, it works only when I boot windoze
[04:33] <Marlowe> roel_ here ya go: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[04:33] <root89> hi..is anyone using kernel 2.6.14?
[04:34] <roel_> looks good for me Marlowe
[04:34] <MagicFab> roel_: so the hardware is OK, only somehow misconfigured
[04:34] <Blake_Sever> Hi all.. My whife uses Web shoots & I want to create something simular on my ubuntu server. Any thoughts ?
[04:34] <MagicFab> roel_: there's several things to check
[04:34] <Marlowe> just did it this end - worked a charm
[04:34] <Whistler> http://pastebin.com/414810
[04:34] <MagicFab> !tell roel_  about sound
[04:34] <daved-> is there any command on ubuntu like system-config-authconfig on redhat? i.e. i want to set the machine up to use ldap for user authentication
[04:34] <MagicFab> mhhh :)
[04:34] <MagicFab> roel_: gimme a min
[04:34] <daved-> do i have to edit the pam files and nsswitch.conf by hand, or is there a switch i can toggle in some helper util
[04:35] <MagicFab> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[04:35] <MagicFab> roel_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[04:35] <MagicFab> CaBlGuY: how do I add something to the bot's KB ?
[04:35] <Marlowe> Whistler either hdc is leftover in mtab, or there's a process using vilius
[04:35] <rapha> lol
[04:35] <rapha> ubotu, where can I find help
[04:35] <ubotu> rapha: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:35] <EmergeTW> Anyone know if unreal 2k4 demo has a package anywhere in one of the *verses?
[04:35] <Whistler> Marlowe so how could i solve this?
[04:36] <nadjyla> EmergeTW, no, i think no
[04:36] <robotgeek> MagicFab: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:36] <Marlowe> grep hdc /etc/mtab 1stly
[04:36] <Whistler> grep hdc /etc/mtab gives me nothing
[04:36] <Marlowe> 2ndly, make sure you haven't got vilius as pwd
[04:37] <CaBlGuY> MagicFab,  not sure on that one..
[04:37] <MagicFab> CaBlGuY: reading...
[04:37] <CaBlGuY> OK
[04:37] <Marlowe> then in desperation, reach for 'fuser -c device'
[04:38] <Whistler> Marlowe if i try different dir i get the same thing
[04:38] <Marlowe> what's fuser -c /dev/hdc give you?
[04:38] <Whistler> /dev/.static/dev: Permission denied
[04:38] <Marlowe> sudo fuser -c /dev/hdc
[04:39] <MagicFab> ubotu soundhoary is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[04:39] <ubotu> okay, MagicFab
[04:39] <MagicFab> :)
[04:39] <Whistler> Marlowe nothing
[04:39] <MagicFab> ubotu sound is http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[04:39] <ubotu> ...but sound is already something else...
[04:39] <MagicFab> !sound
[04:39] <ubotu> sound is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/, or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[04:39] <MagicFab> there you go
[04:39] <EvilPaddy> Just tried installing Visio in Wine and a alert Informed me, "Newer windows version needed" - Anything can be done with this...
[04:39] <norskfjord> Hi, what is the best antivirus software for ubuntu in the console not X?
[04:40] <K_Dallas> norskfjord, clamav
[04:40] <K_Dallas> the best i dont know
[04:40] <MagicFab> !ubz
[04:40] <ubotu> MagicFab: I give up, what is it?
[04:40] <norskfjord> what about trend?
[04:41] <robotgeek> !tell MagicFab about add
[04:41] <norskfjord> also, is there a way for me to stop DoS attacts on my system?
[04:41] <MagicFab> robotgeek: I am doing just that
[04:41] <MagicFab> I think using !<keyword> is also friendlier than !tell <nick> <keyword> - but that's me ;)
[04:41] <jbroome> norskfjord: dos attacks, or just scripted ssh pokes?
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> norskfjord, DoS or antivirus ?
[04:42] <robotgeek> MagicFab: try to use /msg ubotu when the channel is busy :)
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> they are different
[04:42] <MagicFab> norskfjord: is undergoing, unplug, check logs, etc
[04:42] <Whistler> anybody?
[04:42] <Whistler> http://pastebin.com/414810
[04:42] <MagicFab> robotgeek: tx., yes it gets busy
[04:42] <ericmoritz> has anyone gotten wpa working with ubuntu?
[04:42] <norskfjord> Well both
[04:42] <norskfjord> start with DoS first
[04:42] <norskfjord> and scripted ssh pokes
[04:43] <adjacent> does open office have a firefox plugin?
[04:43] <Marlowe> Whistler - you do have write permission to vilius, yes?
[04:43] <Whistler> yep
[04:43] <Whistler> its not the folder
[04:43] <robotgeek> adjacent: what exactly do u have in mind?
[04:43] <Whistler> i tried different folders and i got same thing
[04:43] <AngryClip> Whistler,  is /dev/hdc already pointing at /media/cdrom
[04:43] <adjacent> robotgeek: id like to view .docs within firefox. not in an oo2 window
[04:44] <robotgeek> adjacent: hmm, maybe not
[04:44] <funkyHat> there is a Mozilla Plug-in
[04:44] <funkyHat> not quite sure what it does though ;)
[04:44] <_jan> hi i have a problem with reiserfs partion
[04:44] <adjacent> robotgeek: like acrobat files, etc. not really neccessary, but it owuld be convienient
[04:44] <ericmoritz> wap encryption for wifi that is?
[04:44] <EvilPaddy> CaBlGuY, Whats the story with the "newer version of windows needed"?
[04:45] <MagicFab> adjacent: mozilla-openoffice.org (package)
[04:45] <funkyHat> adjacent, yes, there is
[04:45] <Whistler> AngryClip doest look so
[04:45] <Marlowe> Whistler, fuser /home/admin/Desktop/vilius ?
[04:45] <funkyHat> according to OOo help, that is what the 'Mozilla Plug-in' option in the options dialogue does
[04:45] <adjacent> cool. thanks
[04:45] <_jan> the reiserfs partion have i created on 1 year ago with debian when i want mount the partion
[04:46] <funkyHat> (that may only be OOo 2 though)
[04:46] <Whistler> Marlowe without sudo?
[04:46] <_jan> come the partion is already in use
[04:46] <robotgeek> ericmoritz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[04:46] <CaBlGuY> EvilPaddy,  in what context are you reading that??
[04:46] <MagicFab> adjacent: let us know if it does what we think it does
[04:46] <norskfjord> so, how do I stop myself from getting DoS attacked?
[04:46] <adjacent> MagicFab: i will. ill be installing it later today though. got to run now
[04:46] <Marlowe> Whistler - sudo can't hurt
[04:46] <CaBlGuY> EvilPaddy,  probably talkin about like ME or newer..
[04:47] <adjacent> norskfjord: enable syncookies. use a more complete iptables ruleset
[04:47] <Whistler> Marlowe without sudo i get permission denied with sudo i get nothing
[04:47] <EvilPaddy> CaBlGuY, Tried installing Visio 2003, in Wine - When is starts to run, It pops up: "Newer version of windows needed"
[04:47] <ericmoritz> err I mean wpa :)
[04:47] <_jan> set in wine config win2000 ;-)
[04:47] <CaBlGuY> EvilPaddy,  sounds like it's not doin right with Ubuntu..
[04:47] <Marlowe> Whistler - ok, someone's telling fibs - neither /dev/hdc or vilius are in use...
[04:47] <Falcon> norskfjord: cut off sources of DoS one router before your network
[04:47] <robotgeek> ericmoritz: this link is about wpa -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[04:48] <EvilPaddy> _jan, Wheres this config?
[04:48] <Marlowe> Whistler - not you of course, I mean .. stuff
[04:48] <CaBlGuY> _jan,  U got him??
[04:48] <_jan> home/user/.wine
[04:48] <Marlowe> Whistler - to be honest, about now I'd try a reboot
[04:49] <_jan> can help me anybody
[04:49] <DShepherd> where's is the default image for the ubuntus splash screen stored
[04:49] <EvilPaddy> _jan, System.reg, userdef.reg or user.reg, one of those?
[04:49] <DShepherd> ?
[04:49] <_jan> config
[04:49] <norskfjord> adjacent, may I /msg you for assistance?
[04:49] <Marlowe> _jan don't bother asking if you can ask - just leap in
[04:49] <robotgeek> ericmoritz: also try this -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/hardware/ndiswrapperWithWPA
[04:49] <odie5533> How often does data corrupt on fat32?
[04:49] <Whistler> Marlowe i tried to reboot
[04:49] <Marlowe> no dice huh...
[04:49] <_jan> the name of the file is config
[04:50] <CaBlGuY> odie5533,  yur kiddin right??
[04:50] <Marlowe> Whistler - you mean you DID reboot - or you tried - and system wouldn't shut down?
[04:50] <odie5533> CaBlGuY, is that a lot or not a lot then?
[04:50] <robotgeek> odie5533: it works alrite on my external hdd. best compliance for linux + windows
[04:50] <EvilPaddy> _jan, Wheres this config? not in .wine ..
[04:50] <_jan> home/user/.wine/config
[04:50] <CaBlGuY> odie5533,  the minute u boot up a fat32 partition it's pretty much shot..   especialy today with all the malware n stuff online..
[04:51] <MagicFab> odie5533: everytime you turn off the computer / host unexpectedly, it helps create data corruption situations
[04:51] <DShepherd> where's is the default image for the ubuntus splash screen stored?
[04:51] <odie5533> MagicFab, if I do that on ext3 will it corrupt?
[04:51] <EvilPaddy> _jan, that creates new file for me?
[04:51] <MagicFab> odie5533: from what I know, ext3 is a journaling filesystem, meaning it should recover from it
[04:51] <norskfjord> how do I stop scripted ssh pokes?
[04:51] <MagicFab> odie5533: but I wouldn't plan on doing that repeatedly
[04:51] <_jan> one mom
[04:51] <CaBlGuY> odie5533,  what MagicFab said as well..
[04:52] <robotgeek> DShepherd: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q8
[04:52] <odie5533> Ubuntu has been crashing a lot lately, and Im wondering why :S
[04:52] <_jan> winetksetup
[04:52] <MagicFab> odie5533: perhaps Wikipedia.org has more (friendly) info on filesystems (ext3, reiser, etc))
[04:52] <CaBlGuY> odie5533,  have you done an update??
[04:52] <_jan> run this
[04:52] <MarcN> odie5533: Ubuntu never crashes for me.  What are you doing?
[04:52] <CaBlGuY> also what distro are you running..
[04:52] <odie5533> CaBlGuY, I'm fully updated
[04:52] <DShepherd> thanks robotgeek
[04:53] <odie5533> MarcN: crashes everytime I play a video
[04:53] <odie5533> not immediately
[04:53] <MarcN> odie5533: using what? nvidia drivers?
[04:53] <CaBlGuY> odie5533,  that sounds more like a hardware, or video problem...
[04:53] <EvilPaddy> _jan, Where is it?
[04:53] <odie5533> it cant be overheating, tested my memory, ran a surface scan on the hdd and burn in scan on it before i installed ubuntu
[04:53] <bur[n] er> ubuntu crashes on me with some GL stuff... glxgears will freeze things occasionally :\
[04:53] <CaBlGuY> I got Nvidia drivers and Im fine
[04:53] <CaBlGuY> IM runnig breezy..
[04:53] <odie5533> MarcN: I do have nvidia installed, is that bad?
[04:54] <CaBlGuY> odie5533,  no Nvidia is not bad, I have Nvidia, and it does fine,...
[04:54] <robotgeek> err,laptop
[04:54] <CaBlGuY> I watch videos and DVD's eith no problems..
[04:54] <MarcN> odie5533: don't know.  my laptop is ATI based.
[04:54] <dr_willis> ATI is dominating the Mobil market it seems. :(
[04:54] <EvilPaddy> _jan, Wheres winetksetup?
[04:54] <_jan> i have send you a file
[04:54] <CaBlGuY> odie5533,  sounds like a driver conflict to me..
[04:55] <odie5533> CaBlGuY, Im planning to reinstall ubuntu to see if that fixes it, but I am debating what fs to use on my storage driver and *gulp* whether to go back to windows instead :S
[04:55] <daved-> do i have to edit the pam files and nsswitch.conf by hand, or is there a switch i can toggle in some helper util
[04:55] <DShepherd> robotgeek: the link you gave me shows me how to change my splash screen. I dont want that I just want to know where the default one is located...if there's any default one
[04:55] <daved-> is there any command on ubuntu like system-config-authconfig on redhat? i.e. i want to set the machine up to use ldap for user authentication
[04:55] <EvilPaddy> _jan, I cant receive files through this..
[04:55] <MarcN> and my home server doesn't run X.
[04:55] <odie5533> *storage drive
[04:55] <_jan> type this in the console
[04:55] <bur[n] er> odie5533: reiser is fast!!
[04:55] <_jan> and bad
[04:55] <MagicFab> !ldap
[04:55] <ubotu> Not a clue, MagicFab
[04:55] <bur[n] er> odie5533: ext3 can be read by windows... www.fs-driver.org
[04:55] <robotgeek> DShepherd: location of that is in the gconf-editor key
[04:55] <_jan> because i have a problem with them
[04:55] <CaBlGuY> odie5533,  come in to #kubuntu-offtopic we can help u more in there
[04:55] <cjuner> Is there a way to redirect everything that should go to ESD to ALSA?
[04:56] <_jan> rename the the home path and good
[04:56] <cjuner> libesd-alsa0 does not allow to play ESD sounds and OSS sounds at the same time.
[04:56] <DShepherd> robotgeek: I  want to restore me default logo....but I need to know where it is
[04:56] <DShepherd> can anybody check their gconf-editor key and tell me where it is?
[04:57] <robotgeek> DShepherd: hmm, one sec
[04:57] <MagicFab> DShepherd: sure - which key
[04:57] <DShepherd> is the file called ubuntu-splash?
[04:58] <robotgeek> DShepherd: cd .gnome2/splash/
[04:58] <_jan> then apt-get install winetksetup
[04:58] <MagicFab> I believe its in splash/ubuntu-splash.png
[04:58] <MagicFab> in .gnome2
[04:58] <_jan> the type the command in a shell
[04:58] <dueyfinster> How many cds (in your opinion) is too much to order from shipit?
[04:58] <DShepherd> robotgeek, MagicFab ok
[04:58] <DShepherd> looking now
[04:58] <_jan> root@dibsi:/home/jan# mount -t reiserfs -o conv /dev/sda1 /backup
[04:58] <_jan> mount: /dev/sda1 ist bereits eingehngt oder /backup wird gerade benutzt
[04:58] <Stormx2> Heya
[04:59] <robotgeek> cjuner: for multiple sounds, you _need_ to use ESD. alsa doesn't support multiple sounds
[04:59] <_jason> dueyfinster:  more than you need or are willing to distribute is too much imo
[04:59] <carl> I am try to install realplayer on my system and I am not sure what to do to change the bin file
[04:59] <norskfjord> sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies
[04:59] <cjuner> robotgeek, I use dmix which allows playing multiple sounds.
[04:59] <MagicFab> dueyfinster: any CD you're not extra sure will not be used as intended is too much
[04:59] <norskfjord> -bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies: Permission denied
[04:59] <norskfjord> whats goingon?
[04:59] <_jan> thats my problem:
[04:59] <_jan> root@dibsi:/home/jan# mount -t reiserfs -o conv /dev/sda1 /backup
[04:59] <_jan> mount: /dev/sda1 ist bereits eingehngt oder /backup wird gerade benutzt
[04:59] <robotgeek> cjuner: ah, yes..
[04:59] <cjuner> robotgeek, works well. The thing is all gnome sounds rely on ESD.
[04:59] <MagicFab> *lend them* or give to a local library and direct people there
[05:00] <MagicFab> There was some talk about that at UBZ
[05:00] <daved-> is there any command on ubuntu like system-config-authconfig on redhat? i.e. i want to set the machine up to use ldap for user authentication
[05:00] <_jan> and this command have the same effect:
[05:00] <_jan> root@dibsi:/home/jan# mount -t reiserfs /dev/sda1 /backup
[05:00] <_jan> mount: /dev/sda1 ist bereits eingehngt oder /backup wird gerade benutzt
[05:00] <robotgeek> cjuner: then change everything to alsa, System -> Preferences -> Multimedia selector
[05:00] <MagicFab> (loveday)
[05:00] <cjuner> robotgeek, not as if those sounds where important - you know - those drums when you open directories etc. ... But it would nice it worked.
[05:00] <dueyfinster> Is their a kubuntu, ubuntu lite, edubuntu channel on freenode?
[05:00] <DShepherd> MagicFab, robotgeek: no splash directory under .gnome2
[05:00] <cjuner> robotgeek, gnome sounds do not work for ESD, unfortunately.
[05:00] <dueyfinster> Or is this the only one
[05:01] <BeGu> !edubuntu
[05:01] <ubotu> methinks edubuntu is An Ubuntu version suitable for classroom use. See http://edubuntu.org
[05:01] <DShepherd> MagicFab, robotgeek: /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png...there it is
[05:01] <MagicFab> search for the file ubuntu-splash.png in your filesystem
[05:01] <dueyfinster> I know I have read it
[05:01] <nalioth> dueyfinster: #kubuntu #edubuntu  and ubuntu lite is a fanboy travesty
[05:01] <robotgeek> cjuner: oh well, is there a link to a good dmix tutorial lying around?
[05:01] <BeGu> dueyfinster, you can try... there is own channels for those too I think
[05:02] <EvilPaddy> _jan, How do you access the wine gui?
[05:02] <MagicFab> !sound
[05:02] <ubotu> sound is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/, or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[05:02] <dueyfinster> nalioth: ubuntu lite is a fanboy travesty. lol why is that so?
[05:02] <cjuner> robotgeek, in Breezy dmix was auto-configured. One moment please, I am looking for one. ... Ah what ubotu just wrote could help you.
[05:02] <_jan> winetksetup
[05:02] <Amaranth> _jan: winecfg
[05:02] <nalioth> dueyfinster: it is a script that destroys some users boxen who use it
[05:03] <nalioth> dueyfinster: it is far from official
[05:03] <bolrod> is wine any good ... ?  I never got an application to work with it
[05:03] <bolrod> without something that messes up
[05:04] <dueyfinster> nalioth: Right so you wouldn't recommend someone distributing it instead of official Kubuntu and Ubuntu discs?
[05:04] <bolrod> there's always some window that is fucked up ... or its just painfully slow or something
[05:04] <luis_> Can you help me? I'm having trouble setting up apache in a network with asdl router+ switch
[05:05] <nalioth> dueyfinster: i do not recommend anyone using "ubuntu lite"
[05:05] <Whistler> Marlowe i did reboot
[05:05] <kenala>  hello i m in
[05:05] <nalioth> bolrod: language please
[05:05] <Whistler> still the sane
[05:05] <bolrod> :)
[05:05] <bolrod> tiz tru!
[05:05] <luis_> i have enabled port fwd in the router but external conection to the network is still refused
[05:05] <norskfjord> should I listen on TCP or UNIX for clamav ?
[05:05] <silent_scream> does anybody know how lirc is working ?
[05:06] <silent_scream> or where can i find a how-to or smthing ?
[05:06] <silent_scream> i installed it by synaptic
[05:07] <Unreal_IX> Is their a way to change from 24 colour depth to 16 without having to restart?
[05:07] <luis_> do I have to use NAT?
[05:07] <cjuner> Unreal_IX, restarting X?
[05:08] <Unreal_IX> how do I restart X?
[05:08] <nalioth> Unreal_IX: ctrl-alt-bksp
[05:10] <w0rd54> my seeded install is failing at 2nd stage....it is not taking my mirror settings from the .seed file and then erroring out and telling me it cannot update apt or it is out of date
[05:10] <w0rd54> any suggestions?
[05:10] <Niomi> how can I change the default image viewing application in nautilus?
[05:10] <dueyfinster> nalioth: What even if it was an old 486? I am running Breezy and find it works excellent on my pc thats just over 6 months old.
[05:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dueyfinster about xubuntu
[05:11] <Stormx2> quick command to find out what kernal I am running?
[05:11] <w0rd54> Stormx2: uname -a I think
[05:11] <Stormx2> w0rd54: thanks
[05:12] <DShepherd> Stormx2: uname -s
[05:12] <MagicFab> silent_scream: http://www.lirc.org/ ?
[05:12] <DShepherd> Stormx2: nah scrap that uname -r
[05:13] <DShepherd> uname -r gives you your kernel version
[05:13] <silent_scream> MagicFab, i installed it but i dont know how it works...
[05:13] <DShepherd> Stormx2: man uname for more info
[05:13] <MagicFab> w0rd54: bad CD ?
[05:14] <EmergeTW> does anyone here have the UT2004 demo working?
[05:14] <MagicFab> silent_scream: did you actually read any docs from the site ? http://www.lirc.org/html/index.html
[05:14] <xNinja> hello...i got a hp pavilion dv1000 laptop and i tried alot of linux distros but they all didnt detect my pcmcia controller and one of the is the ubuntu breezy
[05:14] <Stormx2> barney@ubuntu:~/kernel-2.6-driver$ make
[05:14] <Stormx2> bash: make: command not found
[05:14] <Stormx2> =(
[05:15] <nalioth> Stormx2: install "build-essential"
[05:15] <Stormx2> nalioth: k
[05:15] <tj_> how do i configure my fat32 partition to be mounted automaically in fstab?
[05:15] <tj_> so i got ownership of it, not root
[05:15] <MagicFab> DShepherd: there's another command to actually find out what distribution is installed... anyone ?
[05:15] <Stormx2> !tell tj_ about windowsdrives
[05:16] <DShepherd> cat /etc/issue
[05:16] <w0rd54> MagicFab: I'm using pxe based kernel
[05:16] <w0rd54> I got down to commmand prompt
[05:16] <norskfjord> Groups for clamav-daemon (space-seperated):
[05:16] <tj_> thanks
[05:16] <w0rd54> and I found that apt-get . sources was commented out for some reason
[05:16] <w0rd54> I have the seed file with the mirror info in there as well...so that's why I'm confused
[05:16] <norskfjord> what should I enter? what groups am I a member of by default?
[05:16] <Stormx2> what is the path to the linux kernel source code?
[05:16] <wickedpuppy> norskfjord, id
[05:16] <DShepherd> MagicFab: /etc/issue works
[05:17] <EmergeTW> anyone know if there is a similar package to compat-libstdc++ in ubuntu?
[05:17] <Stormx2> Anyone? ^,^
[05:17] <wickedpuppy> Stormx2, /usr/src
[05:17] <MagicFab> DShepherd: that's a text file
[05:17] <MagicFab> although it has some info
[05:17] <MagicFab> !kernel
[05:18] <tgwj> will installing kubuntu-desktop (to try kde) modify any aspect of the ubuntu desktop ? (including boot,login and desktop artwork)
[05:18] <xNinja> how to install the newest kernel in ubuntu
[05:18] <MagicFab> Stormx2: what r u trying to do
[05:18] <wickedpuppy> xNinja, newest as in newer than the ones in repo ?
[05:18] <Stormx2> wickedpuppy: That folder is empty
[05:19] <Greg_Wah> hi, is there anyone on here that knows a reasonable amount about installing mysql on Ubuntu?
[05:19] <wickedpuppy> Stormx2, then you got no klernel source
[05:19] <Stormx2> MagicFab: Install a new ipaq kernal module that is compatible with my spv e200
[05:19] <wickedpuppy> if you got by apt-get .. thats where the source is
[05:19] <Stormx2> wickedpuppy: Right, how should I get it?
[05:19] <MagicFab> tgwj: the "ubuntu" desktop is actually Gnome
[05:19] <xNinja> the most newest kernel may catch my pcmcia controller
[05:19] <Stormx2> sudo apt-get install what?
[05:19] <root89> anyone using 2.6.14 kernel?
[05:19] <w0rd54> can anyone give me a slight hand with this seeded install?  anyone experienced with automated installs here?
[05:19] <MagicFab> You may find that some items appear on the desktop if you repeatedly login/logout switching from KDE to Gnome
[05:19] <wickedpuppy> Stormx2, use synaptic ... i forgot the exact name
[05:20] <Stormx2> wickedpuppy: k
[05:20] <tgwj> MagicFab, i know, but usplash and all the rest of the cream on the pie is not
[05:20] <MagicFab> Stormx2: looking it up
[05:20] <MagicFab> tgwj: no
[05:20] <xNinja> wickedpuppy yes
[05:20] <Jemt> Greetings. Is MySQL 5 in repositories? If, what is it called? If not, where can I get a package containing all I need ? - Thanks ! :)
[05:21] <bur[n] er> Jemt: apt-cache search mysql
[05:21] <MagicFab> Stormx2: look for kernel-source
[05:21] <wickedpuppy> xNinja, then you got to get the source and compile .. and the change the menu.lst
[05:21] <MagicFab> Stormx2: Install the one that correpsonds to your kernel version of course
[05:21] <tgwj> MagicFab, ok ubuntu and gnome work closely together and many apps are part of gnome, but the artwork, (to some extent) the menu structure and the boot process are ununtu
[05:21] <xNinja> i see
[05:22] <nagual> where is httpd.conf in ubuntu?
[05:22] <wickedpuppy> Jemt, search in synaptic
[05:22] <MagicFab> Jemt: no it's not.
[05:22] <Jemt> bur[n] er: Done that. All I can find is MySQL-common
[05:22] <tgwj> nagual, /etc/apache i believe
[05:22] <Jemt> MagicFab: Ok, thanks
[05:22] <bur[n] er> Jemt: in that case, no mysql5 in repositories ;)
[05:22] <Jemt> :(
[05:23] <Stormx2> MagicFab: There isn't a package which corresponds to my kernal version...
[05:23] <Jemt> How can I get it ?
[05:23] <Jemt> Odd that PHP5 is represented, mysql not
[05:23] <bur[n] er> Jemt: mysql.org, get the source, and compile it
[05:23] <MagicFab> tgwj: can't remember
[05:23] <xNinja> thats the one right wickedpuppy linux-2.6.14.tar.bz2 ?
[05:23] <Stormx2> MagicFab: I'm on 2.6.12, it has 2.4.27, 2.6.10 and 2.6.11
[05:23] <MagicFab> Stormx2: what's your kernel v
[05:23] <wickedpuppy> xNinja, yes ... 14 is the latest
[05:23] <Jemt> bur[n] er: No thanks. Don't wan't to compile myself. Life is too short
[05:23] <wickedpuppy> xNinja, the reason you need the latest is because ?
[05:23] <bur[n] er> Jemt: you asked how to get it :P  oh well
[05:23] <Unreal_IX>  thats strange I Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and it restarts in the logon screen ok but if I do it a second time I just get a black screen?
[05:23] <wickedpuppy> it will be in repo soon ...
[05:23] <Stormx2> MagicFab: Like I said, 2.6.12
[05:23] <CookedGryphon> how do i configure apt-get to use my proxy settings?
[05:24] <MagicFab> Stormx2: sorry, I meant linux-source
[05:24] <wickedpuppy> CookedGryphon, use bash steeings
[05:24] <Jemt> bur[n] er: I'm pretty sure that there is a deb package somewhere.
[05:24] <wickedpuppy> settings i mean
[05:24] <tgwj> CookedGryphon, try `dpkg-reconfigure apt`
[05:24] <Stormx2> MagicFab: What do you mean?
[05:24] <bur[n] er> Unreal_IX: you can go to a console "ctrl+alt+f2" and then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[05:24] <xNinja> wickedpuppy because i tried alot of linux ditros and they all didnt detect my my hp pavilion dv1000 laptop pcmcia controller
[05:24] <Greg_Wah> I've installed MySql and when I try and start/do anything with it, I get the error "error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
[05:24] <Greg_Wah> "
[05:24] <bur[n] er> Jemt: .deb does not automatically mean it's for ubuntu
[05:24] <MagicFab> Stormx2: I just checked, search for "linux-source" in synaptic or apt-get
[05:24] <xNinja> wickedpuppy do u suggest something ?
[05:24] <Stormx2> MagicFab: I'm trying to get the linux kernel source but it doesn't have it in 2.6.12, which is my v
[05:24] <Jemt> bur[n] er: I know
[05:25] <Unreal_IX> ok thanks burn[n] er I'll try that
[05:25] <bur[n] er> Jemt: cool... in that case, good luck with it :)  what's so special about mysql5 anyway?
[05:25] <robotgeek> Greg_Wah: ah, okay...
[05:25] <nalioth> Stormx2: look for linux-source
[05:25] <MagicFab> Stormx2: I previously said search "kernel-source" when it's really "linux-source"
[05:25] <CookedGryphon> wickedpuppy:  how?
[05:25] <robotgeek> Greg_Wah: did you install the 4.1 version or just plain mysql-server?
[05:25] <bur[n] er> Greg_Wah: u started it via "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start" ??
[05:25] <Stormx2> MagicFab: Found it :) Thanks to you and nalioth
[05:25] <nagual> thats a no go tgwj
[05:26] <MagicFab> Stormx2: I believe you'll also need linux-headers
[05:26] <Greg_Wah> robotgeek: I've installed both at various points of trying to get it to work but last thing I did was to uninstall the 4.1 components via synaptic and install plain mysql-server
[05:26] <Stormx2> MagicFab: OK
[05:26] <tgwj> /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[05:26] <Greg_Wah> bur[n] er: yes I did
[05:26] <xNinja> wickedpuppy you there?
[05:26] <Stormx2> MagicFab: linux-source is 40 megs so heh
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> eh CookedGryphon i think tgwj
[05:26] <MagicFab> Stormx2: also check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85064
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> eh CookedGryphon i think tgwj  told ya the easier answer
[05:27] <wickedpuppy> xNinja, yah .. sorry i am writing a story on my site
[05:27] <nagual> tgwj, says no such file or directory
[05:27] <robotgeek> Greg_Wah: I had the same problem, 4.0 has a known bug. install 4.1, and i'll try to guide u thru it. went thru the same thing two days ago
[05:27] <MagicFab> !kernelcompiling
[05:27] <ubotu> I guess kernelcompiling is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85064
[05:27] <nagual> NM.  Typed the wrong thing
[05:27] <Jemt> bur[n] er: MySQL 5 got some features I want
[05:27] <xNinja> no problem tyt but what u say about my problem ?
[05:27] <Greg_Wah> robotgeek: Thanks a lot, I'll give it a go now
[05:27] <tgwj> nagual is apache2 installed ?
[05:27] <wickedpuppy> xNinja, there are probably guides on the web for building the kernel from the source
[05:27] <CookedGryphon> i installed kubuntu base and its all ugly and none of the shortcuts are in the menu and half the butons don't work, there's a minimal theme and it crashes, I think it may be because when i installed kubuntu-base using synaptic apt tried to get some stuff from teh internet and couldn't
[05:27] <xNinja> i'll do that tonigh
[05:27] <nagual> found it.   thanx
[05:27] <xNinja> tonight:D
[05:27] <MagicFab> wickedpuppy: I just posted that
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> oh sorry
[05:28] <CookedGryphon> tgwj but when i do that it doesn't do anything
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> i am a bit busy writing something ... :P
[05:28] <tgwj> CookedGryphon, then try dpkg-reconfigure apt-get
[05:28] <CookedGryphon> tgjw how do i set my proxy settings?
[05:28] <xNinja> take your time and thanks :)
[05:28] <MagicFab> wickedpuppy: no need to be sorry ! :D
[05:29] <CookedGryphon> no, its apt, but it jstu waits a while then coes back to a prompt
[05:29] <MagicFab> CookedGryphon: System > Preferences > Network proxy
[05:29] <CookedGryphon> MagicFab: don't patronise me
[05:29] <EvilPaddy> can someone help me with Wine, the only option I have is for Win 3.1, 95 or 98 - is it possible to get a later version?
[05:29] <CookedGryphon> that just works for gnome things
[05:30] <MagicFab> CookedGryphon: ? sorry, didn't follow previous questions. No patronizing here, no, no ;)
[05:30] <tgwj> CookedGryphon, it was kust guesswork. i seem to remember debian installer asking me, and it being in debconf would make sence
[05:30] <Greg_Wah> robotgeek: Have uninstalled the regular packages, am in the process of installing 4.1 server, client and common
[05:30] <MagicFab> CookedGryphon: what app did you want to change/setup proxy for ?
[05:30] <tgwj> and that was a while ago
[05:31] <robotgeek> Greg_Wah: yeah, removed the regular ones and install 4.1 everything, while u are there..get mysql-admin also :)
[05:31] <MagicFab> EvilPaddy: what version do you want to run ? I'd suggest trying qemu - longer to learn, but better
[05:31] <Greg_Wah> robotgeek: kk, done, now what?
[05:32] <Jemt> Back. Do I have MySQL installed if I have mysql-common installed ?
[05:32] <eriksti> What should I download here? trying to get medoosa working ..  http://ccdoc.sourceforge.net/htdocs/downloads.htm
[05:32] <Jemt> I can't connect to it using the root linux account
[05:32] <robotgeek> Greg_Wah: first we have to create mysql users, i suppose
[05:32] <onkarshinde> I have messed with my xorg.conf and now the scroll whell on mouse doesn't work. What line DO I need to add?
[05:33] <CookedGryphon> MagicFab: when i installed kubuntu-base it tried to get some files from the internet in the postinstall but couldn't, and so i tried apt-get and it doesn't seem to b configured, so i'm sat ina decrepit version of kde, no themes, no buttons working, no shortcuts etc
[05:33] <EvilPaddy> MagicFab, I want to be able to run apps like MS Visio?
[05:33] <Greg_Wah> onkarshinde: mousewheel.work = true
[05:33] <MagicFab> EvilPaddy: which version of Visio ?
[05:34] <w0rd54> does anyone have a link for the ubuntu mirror list?
[05:34] <MagicFab> CookedGryphon: can you boot in safe mode ?
[05:34] <w0rd54> for packages etc.
[05:34] <EvilPaddy> MagicFab, 2003
[05:34] <MagicFab> CookedGryphon: (rescue, sorry)
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> EvilPaddy, nope
[05:34] <deFrysk> onkarshinde, Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
[05:34] <Jemt> Back. Do I have MySQL installed if I have mysql-common installed ? If I try to connect to the database (as 'root' on 'localhost') it failes.
[05:34] <EvilPaddy> wickedpuppy, ?
[05:34] <Greg_Wah> robotgeek: And how do I do that? sorry for being so needy, its just I've tried so many different things to get this working
[05:34] <CookedGryphon> MagicFab i can boot and get apps unning, in fact i can give up and go back to gnome, i just wanted to try out kde, and its not impressing me so far,
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> even crossover doesn't support the latest version
[05:35] <MagicFab> EvilPaddy: I'm guessing that only wokrs on Win2K or WinXP. You'd need to have a full licence of either, and create a system image for qemu to load.
[05:35] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: you dont have internet?
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> but you could try .. tell me if it works ... i wanna know
[05:35] <robotgeek> Greg_Wah: trying to pull it up, i am new to mysql too :)
[05:35] <CookedGryphon> nailoth yeah i do
[05:35] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: n/m i'm suffering from "d'oh"
[05:35] <CookedGryphon> that's how i'm talking to u lol
[05:35] <EvilPaddy> MagicFab, Will it work with vis 2003?
[05:35] <MagicFab> EvilPaddy: WinXP is more difficult to setup because of the licencing /registration process. I would aim at Win2K.
[05:35] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: "sudo apt-get -f install" doesnt complete your kubuntu-desktop install?
[05:36] <MagicFab> EvilPaddy: I believe the qemu package is standard in Ubuntu. Also see the docs at http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-doc.html
[05:36] <EvilPaddy> MagicFab, can i msg you
[05:36] <CookedGryphon> nailoth well unless this is it.. in which case i'm jsut gna go straight back to gnome
[05:37] <MagicFab> CookedGryphon: I would completely remove kde and reinstall it.
[05:37] <CookedGryphon> cos its looking a bit wondows 3.1ish
[05:37] <Jemt> OMG! I just - by accident - removed my apache.conf file. How do I recover it ??
[05:37] <CookedGryphon> Magicfab, how do i do that? cos u can't say reinstall the metapackage can you?
[05:37] <MagicFab> EvilPaddy: sure
[05:37] <CookedGryphon> and there's too many to go through by hand
[05:37] <djib> is the wiki on ubuntu.com down ?
[05:38] <hre> I have a problem with a hp laserjet 1022 USB 1.1, the data light blinks, but it takes a very very long time before it begins printing the page. Any ideas?
[05:38] <MagicFab> CookedGryphon: I know in synaptic you can, so apt-get in command line definitely provides for it
[05:38] <MagicFab> hre: perhaps it's converting to postscript
[05:38] <CookedGryphon> MagicFab: I can use synaptic
[05:38] <odie5533> How do I format a hdd to ext3?
[05:38] <MagicFab> hre: have you checked for help at linux-printing.org ?
[05:38] <hre> MagicFab, no i havent, thans for the tip
[05:38] <robotgeek> Greg_Wah: i think i did a sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server4.1
[05:38] <CookedGryphon> but when i tried reinstall kubuntu-base, it didn't try to reinstall all the dependencies, why would it
[05:39] <Greg_Wah> cool
[05:39] <Greg_Wah> cheers
[05:39] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: "sudo apt-get -f install"
[05:39] <odie5533> anyone know how to fully format a hdd to ext3?
[05:39] <MagicFab> CookedGryphon: sometimes depending on what you did at your first rty, it may have installed *some* dpeendencies, not all thus the unstable result
[05:39] <hre> MagicFab, strange thing is: it worked in hoary...
[05:39] <MagicFab> odie5533: I like using qtparted
[05:39] <Jemt> How do I recovery the apache.conf file for Apache2 ?
[05:40] <MagicFab> odie5533: simple, visual, although a bit slow
[05:40] <MagicFab> !filereocvery
[05:40] <ubotu> MagicFab: Wish i knew
[05:40] <labandus> hi men
[05:40] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: or "sudo apt-get --reinstall kubuntu-desktop"
[05:40] <labandus> i've got a problem
[05:40] <labandus> can i ask for help??
[05:40] <robotgeek> Greg_Wah: also look at this http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/default-privileges.html
[05:40] <mouhez> how do I change the default runlevel? (5.04)
[05:40] <robotgeek> !tell labandus about ask
[05:41] <CookedGryphon> nailoth, that command doesn't work
[05:41] <labandus> i have 2 partitions of a Linux on my computer
[05:41] <MagicFab> jemt: looking it up...
[05:41] <labandus> one for a Debian
[05:41] <MagicFab> labandus: greetings
[05:41] <EmergeTW> what is that program you can run with the gears that you can use to check to see if open gl is running correctly?
[05:41] <labandus> and one for Ubuntu
[05:41] <Jemt> MagicFab: Thanks! I havn't been able to google something up
[05:42] <MagicFab> labandus: greetingsgrub/menu.lst
[05:42] <MagicFab> EmergeTW: glxgears I think ?
[05:42] <CookedGryphon> EmergeTW: glxgears
[05:42] <labandus> now i wanna remove the partition which contains the Debian version
[05:42] <djib> can you access the wiki on ubuntu.com ?
[05:42] <djib> it seems down
[05:42] <djib> I want to know if it's just me or not
[05:43] <EmergeTW> CookedGryphon & MagicFab: perfect, thanks
[05:43] <Greg_Wah> robotgeek: aha, back to this old problem "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[05:43] <Greg_Wah> "
[05:43] <labandus> MagicFab, now i wanna remove the partition which contains the Debian version, how can i do??
[05:43] <Greg_Wah> robotgeek: from sudo mysql -u root -p
[05:43] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: join #kubuntu-offtopic please for more help
[05:43] <robotgeek> Greg_Wah: don't sudo
[05:44] <MagicFab> labandus: I'd use an install CD and do it with the partition tool (yeah, it's text)
[05:44] <CookedGryphon> kubuntu offtopic? how is it offtopic?
[05:44] <wickedpuppy> you can use mysql as normal user .. no need to be root
[05:44] <defcon8> CookedGryphon, #kubuntu
[05:44] <MagicFab> djib: wiki looks fine to me
[05:44] <CookedGryphon> ah bugger it, i'm off back to gnome
[05:44] <labandus> robotgeek,  i wanna remove a partiton in my Ubuntusystem , how can do this??
[05:44] <Niomi> CookedGryphon, #kubuntu
[05:44] <MagicFab> djib: a bit slow though
[05:44] <robotgeek> labandus: try using gparted
[05:44] <odie5533> What is the benefit of Ext3 over Reiser4?
[05:44] <Greg_Wah> I get the same error from mysql -u root -p
[05:44] <djib> http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki/
[05:44] <wickedpuppy> labandus, the partition is mounted as ?
[05:44] <djib> it says 404 not found MagicFab
[05:44] <sukru> hi
[05:45] <bur[n] er> odie5533: windows can read ext3
[05:45] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: it is a quiet channel so your help doesnt fly off the screen
[05:45] <sukru> i cant use my mouse on ubuntu...i wonder why.
[05:45] <bur[n] er> labandus: use gparted
[05:45] <sukru> i have serial mouse
[05:45] <sukru> im on gnome rite now
[05:45] <chill> any idea how to modify the colors of my xterm, its now black on white, i want gray80 on black
[05:45] <labandus> wickedpuppy,  as /dev/hda6
[05:45] <odie5533> bur[n] er, not natively though
[05:45] <robotgeek> Greg_Wah let's take this offtopic, check ur PM
[05:45] <Niomi> sukru, what brand and model mouse do you have?
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> labandus, no .. i mean what is it mounted as ?
[05:45] <MagicFab> odie5533: check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[05:45] <bur[n] er> chill: man xterm
[05:46] <sukru> 3 button serial standart mouse
[05:46] <bur[n] er> odie5533: so, you asked for advantage of ext3 over reiser... that is an advantage
[05:46] <odie5533> bur[n] er, what fs type do you use?
[05:46] <labandus> wickedpuppy,  i don't really know
[05:46] <w0rd54> I'm looking to make a local mirror of the ubuntu i386 binaries, anyone have someinfo on doing that? browsing the mirrors and unable to find the .deb packages on any mirror site
[05:46] <w0rd54> any advice?
[05:47] <CaBlGuY> sukru,  so, go spend 10 bux and buy a new mouse..
[05:47] <CaBlGuY> :p
[05:47] <wickedpuppy> labandus, mount
[05:47] <sukru> CaBlGuY,  :=)
[05:47] <bur[n] er> serial mouse?  bleh
[05:47] <CaBlGuY> probably not even 10 bux nowdays
[05:47] <robotgeek> Greg_Wah: u there?
[05:47] <Pistoncin> anyone can help me, please?
[05:47] <sukru> yeah its sux...but useful for winshit.
[05:47] <CaBlGuY> Pistoncin,  ask away
[05:48] <stephen_> anyone know a good package for the wifi card?
[05:48] <MagicFab> Pistoncin: just ask
[05:48] <odie5533> bur[n] er, what do you use to read ext3 on windows?
[05:48] <bur[n] er> odie5533: i told you before :P  www.fs-driver.org
[05:48] <chill> bur[n] er: i did look into /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/XTerm-color but it does not work :-(
[05:48] <MagicFab> stephen_: good for what
[05:48] <sukru> i just wonder which port do i have to use.. ttys0 ttys1 psaux mice etc
[05:48] <stephen_> I need to know the signal and need to get the list of all possible access points
[05:48] <odie5533> musta missed it, sorry
[05:48] <bur[n] er> chill: xterm -fg color -bg color
[05:48] <Greg_Wah> robotgeek: yeah, talking to you in private, youve not responded according to my screen
[05:48] <sukru> for serial mouse
[05:48] <bur[n] er> chill: or look into ~/.Xdefaults
[05:49] <MagicFab> stephen_: wifiradar I think does it
[05:49] <robotgeek> Greg_Wah: are u registered? cause I am not getting any of your messages
[05:49] <stephen_> is it under breeze or other portages?
[05:49] <CaBlGuY> sukru,  seriously..  just go buy a new mouse.,.  it would be much easier.
[05:49] <Greg_Wah> robotgeek: aaah, thatd be the problem
[05:49] <MagicFab> stephen_: or network_tools
[05:49] <sukru> lol
[05:49] <sukru> ok
[05:49] <CaBlGuY> hel, u can proably get one a goodwill for a buk.
[05:49] <MagicFab> for gnome: wifi-radar
[05:50] <robotgeek> Greg_Wah: /j #ubuntu-greg
[05:50] <labandus> wickedpuppy,   i've got gparted thanks
[05:50] <MagicFab> Kde: kwifimanager (not tried)
[05:50] <sukru> actually it is good to use alt+tab for switching under windows :P
[05:50] <sukru> and alt+f1 heh
[05:50] <CaBlGuY> sukru,  u cab do that an any envirenment..
[05:50] <stephen_> cool thx
[05:50] <CaBlGuY> *can
[05:50] <Stormx2> This new module, it is modifying the linux source code i downloaded. i'm taking it i have to recompile the kernel, ya?
[05:50] <nalioth> Greg_Wah: you must be registered to priv chat on freenode
[05:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Greg_Wah about register
[05:50] <haegar> hi
[05:50] <MagicFab> stephank: also try network-manager
[05:51] <sukru> anywayz ty...kisses....happy ramadan for muslims :=)
[05:51] <labandus> wickedpuppy,  but now i don't make the difference beetwen a Debian-Partition a an a Ubuntu Partition
[05:51] <yi> i'm trying to upgrade gamin to 0.1.7 from the debian .deb's
[05:51] <yi> how would i go about doing that?
[05:51] <yi> i can't just use dpkg -i since it gives me unresolved dependencies
[05:51] <Stormx2> yi: dpkg -i whatever.deb
[05:51] <odie5533> you have to resolve them then
[05:51] <NoUse> yi don't install debian debs
[05:51] <Stormx2> yi: use apt-get to fix the dependencies
[05:51] <haegar> is it possible and a good idea to use an usb stick as a swap disk and /tmp ?
[05:51] <bur[n] er> yi: after the dpkg -i, do apt-get -f install
[05:52] <LeaChim> i've installed festival but when i use (SayText "Hi") it doesn't make a sound. how can i make it work ;)
[05:52] <NoUse> haegar not a good idea
[05:52] <MagicFab> someone told me prevously how to get a backtrace. lost the link ! anyone ?
[05:52] <yi> bur[n] er: the dpkg -i won't go through though heh
[05:52] <bur[n] er> MagicFab: gdb
[05:52] <wrld|BuRn> hey ppl
[05:52] <yi> NoUse: hurm
[05:52] <bur[n] er> yi: use ubuntu packages then ;)
[05:52] <wrld|BuRn> can i ask a really noobish question: how do i run a .sh file in terminal ?
[05:52] <yi> well i'm doing this to try and triage a bug
[05:52] <CaBlGuY-out> hey NoUse  o/
[05:52] <bur[n] er> yi: even if it doesn't go through, you should still be able to do apt-get -f install after and possibly fix it
[05:52] <LeaChim> wrld|BuRn, sh filename.sh
[05:52] <MagicFab> haegar: what do u want to accomplish by doing that ? consider encrypting those is sensiive info is the issue
[05:52] <weasl77> FYI: printing problems & experiment
[05:52] <NoUse> wrld|BuRn sh file.sh
[05:52] <yi> NoUse: how exactly does the split between 'gamin' 'libgamin' and libgamin-dev work
[05:52] <wrld|BuRn> thanks
[05:53] <NoUse> yi I'm not sure
[05:53] <LeaChim> i've installed festival but when i use (SayText "Hi") it doesn't make a sound. how can i make it work ;)
[05:53] <weasl77> connecting over a parallel port, to Canon 610 or Epson 740: sometimes prints what looks like postscript (in Windows), but more often often just sits there in a huff.. It will allow me to delete the print job, no prob. the very first time I tried (epson) printed the 1st page of the test page, then locked up.
[05:53] <weasl77>  When installed, I just follwed through the 'wizard', selected the 'epson parallel port' for the epson & similarly for the canon.
[05:53] <weasl77>  No idea the difference between the 2 ports ..:-s  Cant say much more ..
[05:53] <wrld|BuRn> I'm trying to install ATI drivers atm but its being a realy b*tch
[05:53] <NoUse> CaBlGuY-out hey
[05:53] <weasl77> (was v5.04, now updating pkges to see ..)
[05:53] <haegar> MagicFab, it should be faster i think
[05:53] <NoUse> !tell wrld|BuRn about ati
[05:53] <weasl77> have tried kubuntu live (and on a limited system): installed and printed from the canon fine (parallel), whilst there was a driver problem for the epson. However it did print postscript instructions over both parallel and usb interfaces
[05:53] <weasl77>  conclusion: ubuntu & gnome have a problem??
[05:53] <NoUse> wrld|BuRn follow those instructions
[05:53] <MagicFab> !printing
[05:53] <ubotu> printing is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[05:54] <MagicFab> !tell weasl77 about printing
[05:54] <CaBlGuY-out> NoUse  ttyl, just on my wayn out..  :)
[05:54] <wrld|BuRn> thanks :) gonna go spend another half hour giving it another go :D
[05:54] <weasl77> got it thanks:-)
[05:55] <weasl77> thought you might be interested in the difference between ububtu & kubuntu!
[05:55] <MagicFab> haegar: depending on the kind of USB key, you may kill it (some have limited read/write life)
[05:55] <EloraHRanma> Hello there! Anyone with a LinkSys WUSB54G v4.0 wireless card?
[05:56] <EloraHRanma> I'm having problems compiling/modprobing rt2570
[05:57] <Stormx2> This new module, it is modifying the linux source code i downloaded. i'm taking it i have to recompile the kernel, ya?
[05:58] <fonesic> hi
[05:58] <fm> hi
[05:58] <fm> Where do I have to put the line given by Xvidtune please ?
[05:58] <fm> I don't remember this..
[05:59] <fm> I know it is in the xorg.conf but in which section ?
[05:59] <Stormx2> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[05:59] <Stormx2> make: *** [default]  Error 2
[06:00] <robotgeek> Stormx2: you don't seem to have the linux headers
[06:01] <Nihil85> hallo
[06:01] <Jelte> hi there... i got vnc on ubuntu working fine (using ultravnc on PC to connect to ubuntu).... is there a way to make it work such that i dont have to be logged in on the ubuntu side?  ie to have vnc work such that i can get to the gdm login screen?
[06:01] <Stormx2> robotgeek: ok, i'll fix
[06:01] <Nihil85> i need a hando to set grub for a bootload with my windows HD
[06:01] <karen> anyone help?  trying to get a certain site to come up. keep getting an alert that says cannot find site try again. i've used the site before. anyone have solution?
[06:01] <EloraHRanma> I'm having problems compiling/modprobing rt2570 for my Linksys WUSB54G v4.0... If someone has installed it or a similar one, please, contact
[06:01] <oris_wolfbane> hey guys,  how do i release the console after ive run a command?
[06:02] <war-totem> is their any way to recover a user/password for the login?
[06:02] <TuxToaster> 'exit' ? :-D
[06:02] <war-totem> i think i know the user but the pass isnt being accepted
[06:02] <EloraHRanma> oris_wolfbane: ctrl+z bg (enter)
[06:02] <Jelte> oris_wolfbane: , i think you are after ctrl-z  and the bg command...
[06:02] <nalioth> oris_wolfbane: succeed your command with a "&"
[06:02] <labandus> hi men
[06:02] <EloraHRanma> oris_wolfbane: Or launch it followed with &
[06:02] <TuxToaster> war-totem: as root type 'passwd username'
[06:02] <TuxToaster> and just set a new password
[06:03] <TuxToaster> or reset it to what you want it to be
[06:03] <oris_wolfbane> EloraHRanma, Jelte, nalioth, thanks
[06:03] <war-totem> TuxToaster: ok thanks
[06:03] <labandus> how to mount a new Partition  in my System
[06:03] <karen> anyone help?  trying to get a certain site to come up. keep getting an alert that says cannot find site try again. i've used the site before. anyone have solution?
[06:03] <EloraHRanma> karen: not enough information
[06:03] <nalioth> karen: can you ping the site?
[06:03] <Misiek2000> why sagem fast 800 lose connection after connect?
[06:04] <TuxToaster> I'm getting this when starting NFS :  pmap_getmaps: rpc problem: RPC unable to receive errno=Connection reset by peer
[06:04] <bur[n] er> karen: what's the site? maybe it's down?
[06:04] <TuxToaster> rather when starting portmap, tryhing to configure NFS
[06:05] <Pistoncin> how should I get an ubuntu guide?
[06:05] <dr_willis> Pistoncin,  the ubuntu wikis are the best place to get information from - that ive seen so far.
[06:05] <TuxToaster> Pistoncin: write one? :P~ j/k
[06:05] <EmergeTW> Whenever I try to run 3ddesk it tells me : glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible, please configure hardware acceleration
[06:05] <EmergeTW> any ideas?
[06:05] <bur[n] er> EmergeTW: what kinda video card?
[06:06] <EmergeTW> bur[n] er: ATI Radeon 9600
[06:06] <bur[n] er> EmergeTW: try doing "glxinfo |grep direct" and see if direct rendering == yes
[06:06] <bur[n] er> EmergeTW: have you used the ati binary drivers?
[06:06] <bur[n] er> !ati
[06:06] <ubotu> ati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[06:06] <LeaChim> i've installed festival but when i use (SayText "Hi") it doesn't make a sound. how can i make it work ;)
[06:07] <EmergeTW> bur[n] er: direct rendering: No
[06:07] <bur[n] er> EmergeTW: thats your problem ;)  try that link to the binary drivers and install them
[06:07] <mc|amb> will the partition magic free trial resize my windows part. or do I have to get the full version?
[06:08] <bur[n] er> mc|amb: partition magic is scary... i wouldn't trust my data with it... use qtparted from a live linux iso... or use the built-in ubuntu installer partition resizing
[06:08] <wrld|BuRn> i feel dumb asking but how do i check what kernel version im using ?
[06:08] <bur[n] er> wrld|BuRn: uname -a
[06:08] <LeaChim> bur[n] er, qtparted can't resize ntfs i thought :/
[06:08] <bur[n] er> LeaChim: it can
[06:08] <bur[n] er> LeaChim: gparted can't
[06:08] <Misiek2000> why sagem fast 800 lose connection after connect?
[06:08] <LeaChim> bur[n] er, k
[06:09] <LeaChim> an again: i've installed festival but when i use (SayText "Hi") it doesn't make a sound. how can i make it work ;)
[06:09] <wrld|BuRn> ok so <your-kernel-version> would be "2.6.12-9-amd64-generic" ?
[06:09] <|meheren|> can u get java for ubutnu?
[06:09] <Whistler> is there any safe way to remove unneeden programs from ubuntu?
[06:09] <BloodHawk> is there repository with firefox 1.5 beta for breezy?
[06:09] <Whistler> like oo.org
[06:09] <EloraHRanma> Question: How do I get gcc-3.4 or make a program believe I do have it? Or why do they expect me to have gcc-3.4...
[06:10] <bur[n] er> BloodHawk: none i've seen... compile it from source if you want it
[06:10] <mc|amb> bur[n] er: ok, it's just that i've tried before with the knoppix cd to resize windows but it has the resize option desabled. do you know why?
[06:10] <|meheren|> does any1 no if u can get java for ubuntu?
[06:10] <mc|amb> yes u can
[06:10] <|meheren|> where?
[06:10] <dr_willis> !java
[06:10] <ubotu> I don't know, dr_willis
[06:10] <bur[n] er> mc|amb: using qtparted?
[06:10] <dr_willis> :)
[06:10] <zando> |meheren|, search on ubuntu wiki
[06:10] <mc|amb> bur[n] er: yeah
[06:10] <|meheren|> ok
[06:10] <dr_willis> the wiki has all the answeres
[06:10] <|meheren|> thx
[06:10] <TuxToaster> does anyone have nfs set up and want to give me a hand here?
[06:10] <bur[n] er> !tell |meheren| about javadebs
[06:11] <Whistler> is there any safe way to remove unneeden programs from ubuntu?
[06:11] <mc|amb> |meheren|: search in ubuntuforums.org
[06:11] <Whistler> like oo.org
[06:11] <mamoru> please help! when I start synaptic, the following error message occurs: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3981
[06:11] <zando> Whistler, deborphan
[06:11] <Whistler> zando ?
[06:11] <zando> Whistler, delete the library than ubuntu don't need
[06:12] <zando> Whistler, install deborphan
[06:12] <Syruss> is there a way to create a symbolic link to a folder in a similar way to right click create shortcut in windows?
[06:12] <mamoru> Syruss, man ln
[06:12] <bur[n] er> mc|amb: odd... should work... in any event, if you want a windows solution, don't use partition magic, i'd suggest "paragon partition manager"
[06:12] <Welly> Hello all.. i'm trying to set up an NFS share... have gone to system/administration/shared foldeers
[06:12] <EloraHRanma> mamoru: Those repositories seem to be down
[06:12] <Syruss> mamoru: I know all about ln -s etc... I want a gui way :)
[06:12] <mc|amb> bur[n] er: ok, thanks for your time
[06:12] <EloraHRanma> mamoru: Just don't worry too much
[06:12] <mamoru> Syruss, i c
[06:12] <Welly> the drop down for "share with" only shows SMB not NFS
[06:12] <bur[n] er> mc|amb: sure
[06:13] <mamoru> EloraHRanma, just wondering if  it's down
[06:13] <mamoru> only for me
[06:13] <Syruss> I know you can do it via dragging with middle mouse, but I'd like a way where I don't need to start with my destination folder being visible..
[06:13] <EloraHRanma> mamoru: Anyway, have a look at /etc/apt/sources.list and check the ones that fail
[06:13] <karen> ber(n)er--- it's a 123greetings site. i'm new to this whole linux thingy.  I can't seem to figure it out, very different from windows
[06:13] <LeaChim> and again: i've installed festival but when i use (SayText "Hi") it doesn't make a sound. how can i make it work ;)
[06:13] <Syruss> well, it's not for me really..it's for someone else
[06:13] <Welly> any ideas what the problem is? on this machine, it prompted me to install NFS
[06:13] <TuxToaster> Welly: you mount the shares as folders on your filesystem, though I myself am having problems getting the server to start sharing them in the first place
[06:14] <Welly> TuxToaster: ah! oh ok.. :) good luck! i'll try that though
[06:14] <EloraHRanma> So, noone has problems with gcc-3.4?
[06:14] <bur[n] er> karen: using firefox i assume? firefox is the same in windows and linux
[06:14] <Syruss> it's just about the same
[06:14] <karen> yes firefox
[06:14] <TuxToaster> bur[n] er: almost hte same
[06:14] <TuxToaster> lol
[06:14] <Syruss> apparently the prefrences menu is in a different place
[06:14] <mamoru> EloraHRanma, that's all the repositories i have in my /etc/apt/sources.list file enabled
[06:14] <TuxToaster> yeah, it's edit > preferences instead of tools > options
[06:14] <bur[n] er> karen: 123greetings.com works for me... maybe you're missing flash?
[06:14] <Spudchat> hi everyone..im looking to share my internet connection with another computer do i need to install any kind of special packages?
[06:15] <mamoru> !repositories
[06:15] <ubotu> How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example soruces.list
[06:15] <bur[n] er> TuxToaster: potato/potato
[06:15] <DShepherd> what peer to peer clients on ubuntu you guys use? I want to have idea of some good ones..so I can choose one...or two
[06:15] <DShepherd> ?
[06:15] <Spudchat> btw im connecting wirelessly and would like to share the connection via ethernet
[06:15] <bur[n] er> !tell karen about flash
[06:15] <EloraHRanma> mamoru:  Paste your sources.list in paste---
[06:15] <TuxToaster> bur[n] er: lol
[06:15] <wrld|BuRn> I just got this message "Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)" any ideas what it means ?
[06:15] <TuxToaster> hmm.
[06:15] <TuxToaster> !tell TuxToaster about nfs
[06:15] <TuxToaster> worth a shot
[06:15] <zando> wrld|BuRn, are you root?
[06:15] <karen> bur(n)er--- how do i go about installing flash , nothing seems to work with this linux
[06:15] <EvilPaddy> Is it straightforward to make a .deb from a tar.gz?
[06:15] <wrld|BuRn> um
[06:15] <bur[n] er> wrld|BuRn: some other application is using apt...  is synaptic open?
[06:15] <EloraHRanma> mamoru: Or just use the normal ones. I'm having no problem
[06:15] <EvilPaddy> or to mka e a.deb from RPM?
[06:16] <bur[n] er> karen: check yer messages ;) ubotu gave you a link to flash stuff
[06:16] <nalioth> Spudchat: you have both a wired nic and a functioning wireless card?
[06:16] <LeaChim> EvilPaddy, making a deb from an rpm is
[06:16] <wrld|BuRn> i have terminal, xchat and firefox open
[06:16] <deFrysk> EvilPaddy, better not , what package ?
[06:16] <bur[n] er> karen: as a side note... try typing "bur<tab>" to use nick-complete ;)
[06:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell EvilPaddy about checkinstall
[06:16] <Spudchat> nalioth yes
[06:16] <bushk> anybody have any experience with yeahconsole?
[06:16] <wrld|BuRn> as for root no I'm logged in as my main profile
[06:16] <LeaChim> EvilPaddy, and if the tar.gz contains the binaries in the right place it is for that as well
[06:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Spudchat about firestarter
[06:16] <mamoru> EloraHRanma, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3982
[06:16] <mc|amb> whats the command to erase a dir that isn't empty?
[06:16] <private_meta> great... now ubuntu doesn't boot again
[06:16] <EvilPaddy> deFrysk, VMWare Workstation
[06:17] <Spudchat> thanks...it always seems your the one helping me :)
[06:17] <TuxToaster> why does ubotu give the wiki links in https?
[06:17] <nalioth> Spudchat: firestarter will allow you to set up internet sharing
[06:17] <zando> wrld|BuRn, open a console and logg as root
[06:17] <bur[n] er> EvilPaddy: it's not to go from .tar.gz to .deb, but .rpm to .deb can be done via aliean
[06:17] <karen> thanks guys--- you're very helpful.
[06:17] <EvilPaddy> LeaChim, VmWare
[06:17] <nalioth> TuxToaster: b/c the wiki is secure
[06:17] <bur[n] er> TuxToaster: cause https is cooler and encrypted :)
[06:17] <TuxToaster> lol
[06:17] <wrld|BuRn> zando, um how do i login as root ?
[06:17] <TuxToaster> seems wierd to want an encrypted wiki to me :P
[06:17] <roshan> !factoid
[06:17] <bur[n] er> the more encrypted data on the itnernet the better...  even if it's trivial
[06:18] <ubotu> A list of all my factoids can be found at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au
[06:18] <wrld|BuRn> I just installed ubuntu about an hour ago
[06:18] <deFrysk> http is soooooo 9ties
[06:18] <_jason> bur[n] er:  why is that?
[06:18] <nalioth> !root
[06:18] <ubotu> hmm... root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:18] <zando> wrld|BuRn, do the command sudo su
[06:18] <TuxToaster> then again the one we have at work is encrypted but inaccessable outside of the local subnet
[06:18] <TuxToaster> lol
[06:18] <nalioth> zando: please dont do that
[06:18] <bur[n] er> TuxToaster: think of it this way... if only banking stuff is encrypted, a hacker knows where to look... now if everything is encrypted and they decrypt the wiki part... they've wasted time for nothing
[06:18] <mamoru> EloraHRanma, i used these repositories all the time, but today they stopped working somehow :(
[06:18] <mc|amb> how do I erase a dir that isn't empty?
[06:18] <zando> nalioth, why not?
[06:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mc|amb about cli
[06:18] <EvilPaddy> LeaChim, How can I do RPM to Deb then?
[06:18] <nalioth> zando: root is disabled in ubuntu for a reason
[06:18] <bur[n] er> zando: sudo is the 'ubuntu way' :)
[06:18] <Rockett18> mc|amb> rm -rf directory name
[06:18] <roshan> mc|amb: use rm -r <dirname>
[06:18] <nalioth> EvilPaddy: did you get your msg from ubotu?
[06:18] <bur[n] er> EvilPaddy: man alien
[06:18] <EloraHRanma> Then they are probably down
[06:18] <EvilPaddy> nalioth, nope
[06:19] <nalioth> EvilPaddy: please look for it
[06:19] <nalioth> EvilPaddy: rpms are NOT advised
[06:19] <highvoltage> what is the launchpad registry?
[06:19] <mc|amb> Rockett18, roshan: thanks
[06:19] <mamoru> EloraHRanma, what's yours? could you past one for me, please?
[06:19] <LeaChim> EvilPaddy, fakeroot alien whatever.rpm
[06:19] <EloraHRanma> mamoru: Use the ones for a nearby country
[06:19] <mandu> hallo
[06:19] <zando> nalioth, you're right do sudo apt-get install ...
[06:19] <mandu> hello
[06:19] <mamoru> EloraHRanma, i tried to use fi.*, but they also didn't work :(
[06:19] <EloraHRanma> es.(the rest like yours), and a couple pre-alpha repositories
[06:19] <mandu> how are you
[06:19] <nalioth> EvilPaddy: checkinstall makes debs
[06:19] <EvilPaddy> nalioth, not advised to convert rpm to deb?
[06:20] <mandu> we is it
[06:20] <EloraHRanma> mamoru: The server is working perfectly
[06:20] <bur[n] er> mandu: quit spoutin nonsense ;)
[06:20] <Welly> TuxToaster: I've right clicked on the folder, "share folder" and it only allows me to select SMB
[06:20] <Welly> any ideas?
[06:20] <nalioth> EvilPaddy: it is not advised to use any non ubuntu software, ubotu linked you to an earlier question you asked
[06:20] <mandu> welly helo
[06:20] <Welly> there must be a nfs package i've not installed
[06:20] <bur[n] er> Welly: i was just gonna say that ;)
[06:20] <mandu> o no
[06:20] <Welly> and it must be an nfs package :)
[06:21] <Welly> any idea of the name?
[06:21] <EloraHRanma> mamoru: I can browse yours perfectly...
[06:21] <mandu> EvilPaddy
[06:21] <Pygi> can anyone point me to LoCo channel? thank you :)
[06:21] <mamoru> EloraHRanma, then it must be something else :(
[06:21] <mandu> o no
[06:21] <bur[n] er> Pygi: for what language?
[06:21] <mandu> i speak germany
[06:22] <Pygi> for LoCo teams :)
[06:22] <EvilPaddy> mandu
[06:22] <nalioth> !de
[06:22] <ubotu> nalioth: Are you on ritalin?
[06:22] <Pygi> not any language :)
[06:22] <nalioth> !de
[06:22] <mandu> yes
[06:22] <mamoru> Gentlemen, please help! When I run synaptic or run apt-get, i get the following error messages: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3981
[06:22] <_jason> !de
[06:22] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[06:22] <nalioth> mande deutsch luete im #ubuntu-de
[06:22] <asdf1234> hello
[06:22] <mamoru> !ru
[06:22] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[06:22] <bur[n] er> Pygi: i don't think there is one... #ubuntu-es #ubuntu-de #ubuntu-ru, etc :)
[06:22] <Stormx2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=462425&postcount=53 <-- Could someone please take a look at my problem?
[06:23] <EvilPaddy> mamoru, apt-get update
[06:23] <bur[n] er> mamoru: can ladies help too?
[06:23] <Pygi> bur[n] er: Oh, I thought there was some chanell where all  LoCo teams can speak :)
[06:23] <mandu> have you a car
[06:23] <mamoru> bur[n] er, I would be glad!
[06:23] <bur[n] er> Pygi: don't think so
[06:23] <mamoru> EvilPaddy, getting the updates
[06:23] <mandu> missy elliot
[06:24] <EvilPaddy> mamoru, laughing
[06:24] <bur[n] er> can someone ban mandu please?
[06:24] <Pygi> bur[n] er: kk, thanks :)
[06:24] <Pygi> don't ban no one :P
[06:24] <nalioth> mandu: this is a help channel, not a chat channel. ask folks about cars and missy elliot in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:24] <bur[n] er> ;)
[06:24] <Pygi> oh :P
[06:24] <EloraHRanma> mamoru: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3983
[06:25] <bur[n] er> Pygi: see the new debian gui installer? :)  it's pretty
[06:25] <EloraHRanma> So next question: How can I modify my terminals' prompt?
[06:25] <bur[n] er> EloraHRanma: man PS1
[06:25] <Pygi> bur[n] er: ah, well, I already started making my own :P
[06:25] <bur[n] er> EloraHRanma: disregard that... you need to edit PS1 variable though
[06:25] <bur[n] er> /bin/sh: .bashrc: command not found
[06:25] <bur[n] er> doh, that didn't work so hot ;)
[06:26] <bur[n] er> if [ "$PS1" ] ; then
[06:26] <bur[n] er>      #PS1="\[\033\] \u\[\033\\] @\[\033\\] \h:\[\033\] \w\$ "
[06:26] <bur[n] er>      #PS1="\[\033\] \u\[\033\\] @\[\033\\] \h:\[\033\] \w\[\033\] \$ "
[06:26] <bur[n] er>      PS1="\[\033\] \u\[\033\\] @\[\033\] \h:\[\033\] \w\[\033\] \$ "
[06:26] <Blueeye> how can i do to login ssh other shell in ubuntu linux ?
[06:26] <bur[n] er> sorry, didn't realize i had more than 1 PS1 line in my .bashrc
[06:26] <mamoru> EloraHRanma, thx, i've just run "apt-get update"
[06:26] <LeaChim> and again: i've installed festival but when i use (SayText "Hi") it doesn't make a sound. how can i make it work ;)
[06:26] <EloraHRanma> mamoru: And did it work?
[06:27] <nagual> Ok.  I am trying to set up multiple websites with apaceh2, and when i go to start apache 2 i get "[warn]  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts"  Any suggestions on a fix?
[06:27] <asdf1234> this is odd but ... how do i shut down? anyone? :D
[06:27] <mc|amb> poweroff
[06:27] <eedge> eeek
[06:27] <mamoru> EloraHRanma, it is working, yes
[06:27] <Pygi> bur[n] er: www.sourceforge.net/projects/crowly :)
[06:27] <EloraHRanma> mamoru: As a matter of fact, if you use my last listed repository, you can get enlightenment DR17 -removing DR16), if you have any interest
[06:27] <eedge> how can I make a link whilst not in root?, as in a desktop link.
[06:28] <EloraHRanma> eedge: ln -s ?
[06:28] <DShepherd> asdf1234: go to system and click Logout and then shutdown
[06:28] <EloraHRanma> eedge: man ln
[06:28] <Pygi> bur[n] er: I don't like Anaconda :)
[06:28] <eedge> thanks
[06:28] <asdf1234> tnx alot
[06:28] <DShepherd> asdf1234: np
[06:29] <nalioth> EloraHRanma: which repo you use for dr17?
[06:29] <mamoru> EloraHRanma, thx, I'm satisfied with gnome :)
[06:29] <EloraHRanma> nalioth: Shadoi, although it lacks evidence and overrides DR16...
[06:30] <EloraHRanma> nalioth: deb http://soulmachine.net/breezy unstable/
[06:30] <Blueeye> EloraHRanma, how can i do to login ssh other server  in linux ubuntu ?
[06:30] <nalioth> EloraHRanma: you pin your apt like the forum says? or just let the latest thing install?
[06:31] <NoUse> Blueeye ssh user@hostname
[06:31] <EloraHRanma> EloraHRanma: pin? If you mean the preferences, I do
[06:31] <Blueeye> NoUse,  thanks alot :)
[06:31] <asdf1234> can i install aplications such as pagemaker ?
[06:32] <nagual> Ok.  I am trying to set up multiple websites with apaceh2, and when i go to start apache 2 i get "[warn]  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts"  Any suggestions on a fix?
[06:32] <Stormx2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=462425&postcount=53 <-- Could someone please take a look at my problem?
[06:32] <pppoe_dude> hi all... i need a program to help my friend remotely, however, he is using windows, and im using linux, so i need an easy vnc server for him to install
[06:32] <EloraHRanma> nalioth: I add the line to prefer 999 over 16, and updated
[06:32] <pppoe_dude> as i have no way of testing a windows server
[06:32] <Stormx2> pppoe_dude: VNC comes with ubuntu, i beleive
[06:32] <EloraHRanma> nalioth: The rest of the stuff, by hand
[06:32] <shadeofgrey> hey hidde are you in here?
[06:32] <NoUse> asdf1234 unless it has a Linux version, probably not
[06:32] <shadeofgrey> Hi Everybody
[06:32] <shadeofgrey> sorry ive been gomen so long my house got pounded by wilma
[06:32] <Stormx2> pppoe_dude: Who is server, you or him?
[06:33] <EloraHRanma> C'mon! Someone must have a working Linksys WUSB54G...
[06:33] <pppoe_dude> Stormx2 he is.
[06:33] <NoUse> pppoe_dude tightvnc
[06:33] <LeaChim> pppoe_dude, ultravnc.sf.net is useful
[06:33] <pppoe_dude> NoUse: is that just point-and-click? coz hes not too comp literate
[06:33] <NoUse> pppoe_dude yeah, I think so
[06:33] <pppoe_dude> LeaChim: yes theyt seem to have a standalone server, but how much config is there?
[06:33] <odie5533> On a single hdd setup, should one use 2 partitions one for files 1 for os or does it not matter on a signle hdd setup?
[06:33] <bomek> Anyone have an explanation why i can't unselect agpgart support in kernel configuration?
[06:34] <asdf1234> ohh ...
[06:34] <nalioth> EloraHRanma: if only they'd put up ppc ubuntu friendly source code
[06:34] <NoUse> asdf1234 you can usually find equivilent apps though
[06:34] <mamoru> EloraHRanma, EvilPaddy, bur[n] er, after "apt-get update" synaptic worked
[06:35] <EloraHRanma> nalioth: PPC is much more complicated... That's what you pay for having a better computer =)
[06:35] <Kibou> pppoe_dude: he just has to start winvnc.exe and you should be able to connect
[06:35] <asdf1234> like?
[06:35] <asdf1234> :)
[06:35] <Stormx2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=462425&postcount=53 <-- Could someone please take a look at my problem ;-) Pwetty Pwease?
[06:35] <pppoe_dude> Kibou is that with ultravnc?
[06:35] <NoUse> asdf1234 I don't use wysiwyg editors but I think nvu is one
[06:35] <EvilPaddy> mamoru, good stuff
[06:35] <asdf1234> ok
[06:35] <asdf1234> ill find one
[06:36] <Kibou> it is actually.. it's the same with tightvnc
[06:36] <Stormx2> Anyone used synce? aaaanyone?!
[06:36] <EvilPaddy> Stormx2, Whats synce?
[06:36] <nalioth> EloraHRanma: it's not a ppc issue, it's a 'ubuntu compiler' issue (cant compile e17 on ppc or x86 locally)
[06:36] <soundray> Stormx2: yes. It's a pain.
[06:36] <pppoe_dude> Kibou ok thanks
[06:36] <Kibou> np
[06:37] <raphink> re
[06:37] <raphink> I 've got a pb
[06:37] <raphink> I can't install php on ubuntu
[06:37] <Stormx2> soundray: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=462425&postcount=53 <-- Do you think you know what the problem is, or the solution?
[06:37] <raphink> I've installed all required packages
[06:38] <raphink> and I still get a box asking me what app I want to open the  application/x-httpd-php type
[06:38] <raphink> any idea?
[06:38] <bur[n] er> raphink: edit the apache's httpd.conf file
[06:38] <bur[n] er> raphink: uncomment the AddType part for .php files
[06:38] <raphink> ok
[06:38] <raphink> bur[n] er: where is it?
[06:38] <raphink> in /etc?
[06:38] <bur[n] er> raphink: apache 1 or 2?  /etc/apache/httpd.conf /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[06:38] <mc|amb> any ideas on adding a link to my home dir to the panel?
[06:38] <bur[n] er> one of those ;)
[06:39] <raphink> I haven't got anything aobut php in it
[06:39] <raphink> it seems
[06:39] <soundray> Stormx2: Have you tried running multisync at this point?
[06:39] <NoUse> raphink try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:40] <raphink> bur[n] er: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3984
[06:40] <bur[n] er> raphink: http://burner.ath.cx/httpd.conf
[06:40] <bur[n] er> raphink: check my file... see the part with AddType? that's what you need
[06:41] <raphink> bur[n] er: how come it's not added by default?
[06:41] <raphink> on debian it was set automatically
[06:41] <jimmy_> hi
[06:41] <bur[n] er> raphink: not sure...
[06:41] <asdf1234> when i insert the mp3 disc it says "there were no decoders found... " where can get some decoder?
[06:42] <bur[n] er> !mp3
[06:42] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[06:42] <B_Lizzard> hoary sucs, breezy rules
[06:42] <bur[n] er> lol
[06:42] <B_Lizzard> LOLZZZ
[06:42] <bomek> I can't unselect agpgart from the kernel config... anyone know why??
[06:42] <johnw> i have a folder /chroot/etc that has all the permissions: drwxrwxrwx.  But it says I'm not allowed to move any files to it.  I'm even did sudo su and tried.  Help!!!!!
[06:42] <jimmy_> i'm having trouble with the oracle sqlplus client,... "could not resolve the connect identifier specified"
[06:42] <B_Lizzard> Totally immature
[06:42] <bur[n] er> johnw: what's the error?
[06:43] <bomek> even if i remove CONFIG_AGP, it keep coming back after a make menuconfig
[06:43] <johnw> bur[n] er: hold, on let me check
[06:43] <bomek> that's frustrating
[06:43] <electron_> Hello, I am having some trouble with XMMS, it was working fine, now when I try to play mp3s the progress bar goes along fast and I don't get any sound, same with mpg123. I think the sound library has problems with esd, how can I fix this?
[06:43] <raphink> argh
[06:43] <asdf1234> anyone?
[06:43] <jimmy_> hi
[06:43] <dr_willis> electron_,  run it from a terminal window - see if its got any error messages
[06:43] <johnw> bur[n] er: johnw@watsoncomp:/chroot/named$ sudo mv rndc.conf etc
[06:43] <johnw> mv: cannot move `rndc.conf' to `etc/rndc.conf': Permission denied
[06:43] <johnw> johnw@watsoncomp:/chroot/named$
[06:44] <nagual> I am trying to set up multiple websites with apaceh2, and when i go to start apache 2 i get "[warn]  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts"  Any suggestions on a fix?
[06:44] <bur[n] er> johnw: no pasting man :P
[06:44] <johnw> bur[n] er sorry
[06:44] <bur[n] er> johnw: is that file open somewhere?
[06:44] <bur[n] er> (not like that would have an effect anyway... hrmm)
[06:44] <johnw> bur[n] er: no, I can move it to another foler
[06:44] <johnw> *folder
[06:44] <johnw> weird huh?
[06:45] <electron_> Hello, I am having some trouble with XMMS, it was working fine, now when I try to play mp3s the progress bar goes along fast and I don't get any sound, same with mpg123. I think the sound library has problems with esd, how can I fix this?
[06:45] <electron_> libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:45] <electron_> Message: device: default
[06:45] <electron_> I got that error
[06:45] <Stormx2> soundray: i think it did set up the partnership, but it finds no new changes :-\
[06:45] <odie5533> How often do people reformat their PC when using Ubuntu?
[06:45] <bur[n] er> johnw: yeah, i'm not sure exactly... sudo should do anything
[06:45] <bur[n] er> reformat?
[06:45] <NoUse> electron_ that file is provided by libmikmod2
[06:46] <NoUse> electron_ try installing that package
[06:46] <johnw> oh well, maybe it doesn't need to be moved
[06:46] <soundray> Stormx2: In multisync, did you select the things you want sync'ed (calendar, contacts...)
[06:46] <bur[n] er> johnw: just open them both in text editors and copy/paste ;)
[06:47] <bur[n] er> johnw: cheap hack workaround, but I bet it works
[06:47] <electron_> how would that make it not play though?
[06:47] <johnw> bur[n] er: just tried it... no.  I can't even make a file in the etc folder
[06:47] <bur[n] er> johnw: you sure you have "sudo" powers?
[06:47] <johnw> bur[n] er: it's really strange.  Even as root I can't chown, chmod, or anything.
[06:47] <Stormx2> soundray: :-\ let me check
[06:48] <johnw> bur[n] er: Yes.  I can sudo su
[06:48] <Stormx2> soundray: Yes
[06:48] <bur[n] er> very very odd johnw, i'm at a loss :\
[06:48] <electron_> how do I add my user to the sudo group?
[06:48] <yohan> anyone know a guide to install chroot for breezy?
[06:48] <bur[n] er> electron_: have you ever played mp3s with xmms?
[06:48] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: BEEP MEDIA PLAYER!
[06:48] <bur[n] er> yohan: apt-get install chroot?
[06:48] <johnw> bur[n] er: don't worry about, I think I can get around having to have that file in the folder
[06:48] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: to each their own :P  if electron_ wants xmms, i'm in no position to argue
[06:49] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: for the record, i'm an amarok user :P
[06:49] <Pygi> bur[n] er: Have you seen crowly? :)
[06:49] <mandu> bey
[06:49] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: xmms is nasty :-\ BMP = XMMS + Niceness
[06:49] <EvilPaddy> Can someone tell me how to do this: or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[06:49] <EvilPaddy> with CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5".
[06:49] <soundray> Stormx2: If you set up an Evolution-Backup sync pair, does it synchronize?
[06:49] <bur[n] er> Pygi: no screenies :P ;)
[06:49] <Stormx2> soundray: Ill see
[06:49] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: why is xmms "nasty"  because it's GTK1?  xmms can do more than BMP :P
[06:49] <Pygi> bur[n] er: it will contain a Ubuntu there, so it'll look nice :)
[06:49] <mc|amb> how to add a link to my home dir on the panel?
[06:50] <yohan> bur[n] er: yeah but i mean how to use it etc..
[06:50] <Pygi> bur[n] er: theme*
[06:50] <yohan> i found this but its for hoary: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[06:50] <bur[n] er> mc|amb: right click the panel... add to panel... custom application launcher... use "nautilus ~/"
[06:50] <Stormx2> [evo2-sync]  DEBUG: start: sync_connect
[06:50] <Stormx2> [evo2-sync]  INFORMATION: Loading state from file /home/barney/.multisync/3/localsettings
[06:50] <Stormx2> [evo2-sync]  WARNING: File /home/barney/.multisync/3/localsettings does not exist[evo2-sync]  DEBUG: end: sync_connect
[06:50] <Stormx2> [evo2-sync]  INFORMATION: Done searching for changes. Found 0 changes
[06:50] <Stormx2> sync_done
[06:50] <Stormx2> sorry for the pasting ^
[06:50] <Rockett18> mc|amb> Just drag the home icon from Places to the panel
[06:51] <Stormx2> soundray: Can we pm this?
[06:51] <electron_> bur[n] er, yes, it was working fine, now I can't play mp3s with XMMS or MPG123. The progress bar just goes through the track like 5 times the speed like it's ripping the song or something and I get no sound.
[06:51] <raphink> bur[n] er: how come your httpd.conf has nothing to do with mine?J
[06:51] <yohan> anyone have a specific guide to chroot with breezy?
[06:51] <raphink> I don't get it
[06:51] <bur[n] er> mc|amb: better yet, do what Rockett18 suggests
[06:51] <Pygi> bur[n] er: maybe you can make theme, so you make sure it looks nice :)
[06:51] <mc|amb> bur[n] er, Rockett18: i'll try tanks
[06:51] <bur[n] er> raphink: no idea
[06:51] <Stormx2> electron_: Try changing output plugin to eSound
[06:51] <raphink> bur[n] er: + your httpd.conf won't work on my machine
[06:51] <EvilPaddy> Guys, can someone help me out here: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/3985 - How do I overide the ENV variable?
[06:51] <Stormx2> electron_: Do you get sound on other file types?
[06:51] <soundray> Stormx2: Sure... how?
[06:52] <electron_> Please check that blah blah blah
[06:52] <Stormx2> Answer q2 first ;-)
[06:52] <electron_> don't work
[06:52] <electron_> no
[06:52] <electron_> I can only play audio cds with cdcd
[06:52] <electron_> :/
[06:52] <bur[n] er> electron_: check your "output" plugin with xmms?  although... if you can't play with mpg123... maybe you need to start "esd" ??  I have no idea... i'm reachin
[06:52] <electron_> how do I start esd?
[06:52] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: XMMS has MP3 in-the-box, you don't need mpg123
[06:52] <bur[n] er> raphink: por que?
[06:52] <bur[n] er> electron_: alt+f2, type "esd"
[06:53] <Stormx2> electron_: In preferences, change the output plugin to eSound. I had this problem in hoary
[06:53] <raphink> bur[n] er: apache2 refuses to start with your conf file
[06:53] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: are you even following this conversation? ;)
[06:53] <electron_> where?
[06:53] <raphink> it links to directories that don't exist on my conf
[06:53] <bur[n] er> raphink: that was from apache1
[06:53] <electron_> where do I type this in console?
[06:53] <bur[n] er> raphink: u don't have /var/www ??
[06:53] <Stormx2> electron_: Arn't you in XMMS? thats what you want, right? MP3 in XMMS?
[06:53] <bur[n] er> electron_: when you do "alt+f2" then a run dialog appears
[06:53] <electron_> yes
[06:54] <raphink> sure I have /var/www bur[n] er
[06:54] <raphink> my apache2 works fine
[06:54] <raphink> it's only php that doesn't work
[06:54] <electron_> nope
[06:54] <Stormx2> electron_: Open XMMS, right click > preferences or options, i forget
[06:54] <raphink> and my httpd.conf is almost void
[06:54] <electron_> doesn't do anything
[06:54] <raphink> empty
[06:54] <raphink> apache 1 is not installed on my comp
[06:54] <paulproteus> raphink: a2enmod php4, iirc
[06:54] <raphink> but I have apache 1 examples
[06:54] <Stormx2> electron_: What doesn't do anything...?
[06:54] <bur[n] er> raphink: check out /etc/apache2/apache.conf :) apache2 changes the .conf file name :)
[06:55] <w0rd54> I have a bootcd with grub loaded on it, I'm wishing to boot from teh harddrive's MBR (by default) so cd can be inserted and then if you don't press a key it boots to HD by default....I am having trouble booting linux using rootnoverify, chainloader+1...it will boot fat32/ntfs just fine using the cd but when I install linux os with GRUB the bootcd of grub won't let it boot....any suggestions?
[06:55] <raphink> I have apache2 installed yet no examples of conf
[06:55] <paulproteus> raphink: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/207
[06:55] <raphink> hmm ok
[06:55] <Stormx2> w0rd54: hehe you said "teh"
[06:55] <w0rd54> lol
[06:55] <w0rd54> basically I want grub just to boot from MBR of HD
[06:55] <bur[n] er> electron_: try this... mv ~/.xmms ~/.xmms-bak and then restart xmms :)
[06:56] <w0rd54> like those xp cd's...."press any key to boot from cd" have a current boot menu that defaults to HD booting
[06:56] <Stormx2> w0rd54: I have mine booting off cd, then hdd. If it doesn't find cd, it boots to hdd?
[06:56] <raphink> thanks bur[n] er I found it :)
[06:56] <w0rd54> yep
[06:56] <w0rd54> if I take cd out it works fine
[06:56] <w0rd54> and if partition is ntfs/fat32 it boots fine
[06:56] <EvilPaddy> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match the Breezy kernel?
[06:56] <Stormx2> w0rd54: Thats odd, normally it will just say "Can't find cd, booting from hdd"
[06:56] <paulproteus> raphink: You may want to read the Apache2 config setup info at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/101
[06:56] <bur[n] er> raphink: sorry for misleading you originally... didn't realize apache2 was different ;)
[06:57] <raphink> I just don't get why the php package didn't change this setting in apache2.conf
[06:57] <raphink> that's weird
[06:57] <w0rd54> Stormx2: I have bios set to boot from cd, cd loads GRUB with menu...first option = boot from HD0
[06:57] <Stormx2> w0rd54: So wait, you need it to boot to the MBR?
[06:57] <jnmbk> hi, I have a question about lilo, am i in the right place...
[06:57] <bur[n] er> raphink: make a bug report?
[06:57] <raphink> sure
[06:57] <raphink> I will
[06:57] <w0rd54> so it boots from CD first....loading GRUB....and then I'd like to point it to the MBR of the HD no matter what OS is on HD
[06:57] <raphink> if I get it to work first
[06:57] <w0rd54> if you get me?
[06:57] <EvilPaddy> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match the Breezy kernel?
[06:57] <eedge> you know dist-upgrade... well, I've been running it for about 3 hours, almost done. Its still get'ing.. When the downloadings finished what exactly will happen?
[06:57] <ompaul> jnmbk, maybe, you have to ask first
[06:57] <electron_> grrrrr
[06:57] <electron_> no
[06:57] <electron_> still same
[06:57] <eedge> because I assume it hasn't actually upgraded anything yet.
[06:57] <w0rd54> I'm building an "install environment" cd basically...got 98/2k/xp/ubuntu from network
[06:57] <NoUse> eedge it'll install the packages
[06:57] <Stormx2> w0rd54: So you want to get rid of the middle man (cd) ?
[06:57] <w0rd54> all automated ;)
[06:57] <Welly> hey all.. i'm doing this - sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.0.12:var/www /media/lois
[06:57] <electron_> it's FUBAR!!!!!!
[06:57] <Welly> and getting this - mount: RPC: Program not registered
[06:58] <electron_> fucked
[06:58] <raphink> it still won't work
[06:58] <electron_> :(
[06:58] <w0rd54> Stormx2: i want to keep the cd, but if computer reboots I want the cd to wait 5 secs and then boot to HD by default (CD bootloader = grub)
[06:58] <electron_> just goes through the song with no sound
[06:58] <Stormx2> electron_: What is the problem? I don't understand
[06:58] <electron_> bur[n] er, yes, it was working fine, now I can't play mp3s with XMMS or MPG123. The progress bar just goes through the track like 5 times the speed like it's ripping the song or something and I get no sound.
[06:58] <electron_> Hello, I am having some trouble with XMMS, it was working fine, now when I try to play mp3s the progress bar goes along fast and I don't get any sound, same with mpg123. I think the sound library has problems with esd, how can I fix this?
[06:58] <paulproteus> Welly: Two things;
[06:58] <Welly> go for it! :)
[06:58] <fm> hi
[06:58] <eedge> so, what about things it wants to upgrade that I have open?
[06:58] <paulproteus> 1. I think you mean 192.168.0.12:/var/www - note the xtra slash.
[06:58] <sobersabre> hi guys, where do I complain about evolution ? :)
[06:58] <eedge> like firefox etc.
[06:58] <paulproteus> Welly: 2. I think you have the NFS server's IP address wrong.
[06:58] <electron_> I don't know if it's about esd
[06:58] <paulproteus> Welly: Or you haven't run /etc/init.d/nfs start on that machine.
[06:59] <electron_> it only works on oss
[06:59] <Stormx2> electron_: XMMS has MP3 support in-the-box, you don't need mpg123. Try changing output plugin
[06:59] <Welly> really?
[06:59] <electron_> plugin
[06:59] <Welly> oh ok
[06:59] <Welly> i'll try with the extra /
[06:59] <sobersabre> I mean ubuntu's 2.4.1
[06:59] <Welly> first
[06:59] <fm> I have a silly question : is it possible in Breezy to have an adress bar in the File Browser under gnome ?
[06:59] <w0rd54> damn....
[06:59] <Welly> no.. that didn't work
[06:59] <EvilPaddy> clear
[06:59] <electron_> Only OSS works
[06:59] <EvilPaddy> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match the Breezy kernel?
[06:59] <Stormx2> fm: I've always wondered that. I think you can start it with --browser, let me see
[06:59] <electron_> mpg123 doesn't work eather mate
[06:59] <w0rd54> title=Boot from HD
[06:59] <w0rd54>         unhide (hd0,0)
[06:59] <w0rd54>         rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[06:59] <w0rd54>         chainloader +1
[06:59] <w0rd54>         makeactive
[06:59] <paulproteus> EvilPaddy: /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
[06:59] <electron_> so it's something else, not the players
[06:59] <w0rd54> that's my first entry on menu.lst booting from CD
[06:59] <paulproteus> EvilPaddy: BUT you must install linux-headers-`uname -r` first.
[06:59] <NoUse> w0rd54 don't paste in here
[07:00] <L2-CaStLe> Has anyone else had problems with ubuntu freezing at random, nothing helps but a hard reset?
[07:00] <w0rd54> NoUse: k, will refrain
[07:00] <paulproteus> L2-CaStLe: I had that problem, then I found my motherboard was faulty.
[07:00] <soundray> L2-CaStLe: No, sounds like a hardware problem to me.
[07:00] <electron_> chealer electron_, looks like you have a general problem with sound then. cdcd might go to your audio card by a different path. does any application that doesn't play audio CDs play sound corectly?
[07:00] <paulproteus> L2-CaStLe: You might try running memtest86 just to see if it's your RAM.
[07:00] <mcphail> L2-CaStLe: i had that problem on one hoary install. All is well now.
[07:00] <yohan> anyone have a specific guide to chroot with breezy?
[07:00] <electron_> thats sounds more like it
[07:01] <L2-CaStLe> this is on a laptop, which ran debian+fluxbox without this problem
[07:01] <yohan> (amd 64)
[07:01] <paulproteus> L2-CaStLe: What year is the machine from?
[07:01] <oidia> can anyone send me a sourse code that whould compile withOUT errors using g++ hello.cpp
[07:01] <eedge> when I'm dist-upgrading, do I have to close everything?
[07:01] <ompaul> !tell w0rd54 about paste
[07:01] <L2-CaStLe> 2005, bought it in August
[07:01] <eedge> because, what about when its installing updates for things I have open?
[07:01] <MaX> can somebody help? when installing Ubuntu i got an error that says "can't mount CD-ROM"
[07:01] <soundray> L2-CaStLe: debian+fluxbox with a 2.4 kernel?
[07:01] <L2-CaStLe> 2.6
[07:01] <paulproteus> L2-CaStLe: The other time this happened to me was a weird power management glitch on a Dell laptop.
[07:01] <w0rd54> k
[07:02] <mcphail> L2-CaStLe: a reinstall might work. Sorted things for me.
[07:02] <Stormx2> fm: Hmm, I can't see it in the options. I'll do some research
[07:02] <jnmbk> I installed ubuntu 5.10, during installation I skipped grub configuration because I wanted to install lilo instead (I just liked it when i first saw it in mandrake), but lilo does't show windows as an option at the start, I changed the lilo.conf file and run lilo but still doesn't show windows, it just starts loading linux, I'm sure that windows is in hda1 and linux is in hda6
[07:02] <L2-CaStLe> mcphail, in that case it will be a reinstall of debian
[07:02] <fm> Stormx2 : found it ! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77346
[07:02] <paulproteus> L2-CaStLe: Can you try running a Debian kernel?
[07:02] <paulproteus> On the Ubuntu system, I mean.
[07:02] <soundray> L2-CaStLe: have you checked your machine's temperatures?
[07:02] <heino> anyone got the eclipse packages running on amd64
[07:02] <Stormx2> fm:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77346
[07:02] <queuetue> I have a machine with a working soundcard (mplayer works fine) but gnome audio apps do not make any sound and the volume control has an X through it with "No volume control elements and / or devices found" pops up when I click on it...
[07:02] <sobersabre> why does evolution get stuck (freeze), and then respawned (suddenly starts responding) ?
[07:02] <oidia> any c++ programmer in here?
[07:02] <ompaul> jnmbk, well sudo fdisk -l may help you find useful info there
[07:02] <Stormx2> fm: You got there first! damn you!
[07:02] <paulproteus> Just download a linux-image package from Debian Testing
[07:02] <w0rd54> ok
[07:03] <queuetue> Did my sound card not get recognized properly?  Can I rerecognize it?
[07:03] <w0rd54> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3986 <<< -- can someone look at this grub and let me know if I'm doing something wrong
[07:03] <NoUse> oidia try to the c++ channel
[07:03] <oidia> j c++
[07:03] <ompaul> oidia, #gcc would be a better place, a much better place
[07:03] <delire> L2-CaStLe: sounds like your hardware is bad.
[07:03] <L2-CaStLe> soundray, need utils for that, but I will check. It does get a little hot, but not THAT hot.
[07:03] <MaX> please
[07:03] <paulproteus> L2-CaStLe: Try a Debian 2.6 kernel from Testing.  It might solve this for you.
[07:03] <oidia> ok tnx :P
[07:03] <MaX> can somebody help me? when installing Ubuntu i got an error that says "can't mount CD-ROM"
[07:04] <soundray> L2-CaStLe: I second paulproteus
[07:04] <NoUse> MaX did you verify the CD image when you downloaded it?
[07:04] <L2-CaStLe> ok, I'll try later, thanks.
[07:04] <Spudchat> allright i installed firestarter but when i activate my second (wired) network card my first NIC (wireless) loses connection to the internet
[07:04] <mcphail> L2-CaStLe: do you find it more likely to freeze running firefox/qemu/vmware? These were the troublesome apps for me.
[07:04] <paulproteus> L2-CaStLe: Keep me informed; I'm interested to see how this goes.
[07:04] <Spudchat> any ideas?
[07:04] <bur[n] er> queuetue: is "esd" running?
[07:04] <delphiuk> can anyone help me with a problem I seem to be having with totem? it seems to seg fault
[07:04] <paulproteus> Spudchat: If they have IP addresses in the same block, Linux will freak out.
[07:05] <Stormx2> MaX: Check if the cd is scratched/damaged. If its not, ensure the download is ok (search ubuntuforums.org for md5 sum). If it isn't ok, re-download. if it is, try burning at a slower speed!
[07:05] <Spudchat> in the same block meaning like 192.168.1.* ?
[07:05] <paulproteus> Spudchat: Right.
[07:05] <MaX> NoUse yes and the same error happen with an original cd in another cd-rom
[07:05] <L2-CaStLe> mcphail, it seems like it's at random, and it happend more often when I used the xorg-driver-fglrx, sometimes it happens during night when the laptop is at no load with the xscreensaver
[07:05] <Spudchat> hmm ok thanks im gonna try and work on that
[07:05] <theine> w0rd54, don't know, but the easiest way would be to look at the grub configuration of your Linux HD installation and just use that when booting from the bootcd
[07:05] <MaX> Stormx2 i got 99% sure that isn't that problem
[07:05] <johnw> how do i install decoders for mpg?
[07:06] <johnw> sudo apt-get install "what?"
[07:06] <Stormx2> mpg1123
[07:06] <Stormx2> mpg123
[07:06] <queuetue> Ever have one of those days where you just can't get the caffeine into your bloodstream fast enough? :)
[07:06] <Stormx2> infactr
[07:06] <Stormx2> queuetue: Yap, tonight
[07:06] <theine> w0rd54, does that make sense to you?
[07:06] <mcphail> L2-CaStLe: both Linux and Windows ATI drivers have had arguments with my Broadcom/Belkin wireless card in the past.
[07:06] <johnw> stormx: thankyou
[07:06] <Spudchat> paulproteus should i enter the normal gateway for the second card or should i use the ip of the wireless nic?
[07:06] <Stormx2> johnw: xmms and bmp have mp3 support in-the-box
[07:07] <MaX> he opens the boot in the cd, than i put the language and than he says that
[07:07] <w0rd54> theine: can't do that
[07:07] <L2-CaStLe> mcphail, ok, similar drivers for xfree works fine in regular debian, my wlan is an intel
[07:07] <theine> w0rd54, why not?
[07:07] <bur[n] er> !tell johnw about Restricted
[07:07] <w0rd54> OS can be xp/2k/linux
[07:07] <Stormx2> MaX: CD is corrupt
[07:07] <w0rd54> on the hD...
[07:07] <Stormx2> MaX: Reburn
[07:07] <coolkev> How do i tell what Sound System am i using on breezy.. like ALSA or OSS
[07:07] <w0rd54> so the grub loader needs to load the HD oS no matter what OS
[07:08] <paulproteus> coolkev: You're using ALSA.
[07:08] <eedge> oioi, do I have to close everything before dist-upgrade...
[07:08] <mcphail> L2-CaStLe: maybe I'm no longer having crashes because i'm using the open source drivers...?
[07:08] <MaX> Stormx2 the same error with an original
[07:08] <paulproteus> eedge: You don't have to.
[07:08] <eedge> cool
[07:08] <coolkev> paulproteus: how you know?
[07:08] <Stormx2> MaX: What system are you running/
[07:08] <eedge> how does that work though?
[07:08] <MaX> win xp
[07:08] <eedge> how does it update things I have open?
[07:08] <Stormx2> MaX: (machine)
[07:08] <theine> w0rd54, why do you actually require that a single boot entry boots any OS?
[07:08] <paulproteus> eedge: But once the dist-upgrade finishes, it's a good idea to log out and quit your desktop and restart GDM.
[07:08] <MaX> intel
[07:08] <Bedbug105> Hey guys
[07:08] <Stormx2> MaX: Laptop, or not?
[07:08] <Spudchat> ahh never mind i found it :)
[07:08] <MaX> desktop
[07:08] <delire> johnw: FYI 'apt-cache search <kewords>' will provide a list of search results as packagenames. 'apt-cache show <packagename>' will provide a package description.
[07:08] <paulproteus> eedge: It doesn't replace the files in-place; it deletes the old ones and puts new ones with the old ones' filenames.
[07:09] <theine> w0rd54, I mean there can only be one OS at a time on (hd0,0)...
[07:09] <delire> s/kewords/keywords
[07:09] <johnw> delire: thank you
[07:09] <delire> johnw: anytime.
[07:09] <eedge> ok, thanks paulproteus... :)
[07:09] <paulproteus> eedge: But the disk space isn't freed until all open copies of a file are closed.
[07:09] <Stormx2> MaX: I can't understand why it is not mounting it. I can only suspect the download is corrupt, if you've burnt it twice. Have you tried checking the md5 sums?
[07:09] <MaX> Stormx2 i think the problem is in the CD-ROM... i don't know why maybe LG problem
[07:09] <eedge> thanks alot, all makes sense now.
[07:09] <eedge> hehe
[07:09] <paulproteus> max: It is true that sucky CD-ROM drives have made me see this probem.
[07:09] <MaX> what is that?
[07:09] <TuxToaster> how do you assign a second IP in ubuntu?
[07:09] <Stormx2> 1 week in and I am already patching my kernal :D
[07:09] <soundray> coolkev: lsmod | grep ^snd >/dev/null && echo "You're using ALSA"
[07:09] <TuxToaster> like an alias IP
[07:09] <paulproteus> eedge: Some programs like Firefox will freak out after a while if their support files go away.
[07:10] <Spudchat> wohooo thanks a lot paulproteus
[07:10] <Stormx2> MaX: Its an integrety check on the .iso you downloaded (im guessing you downloaded/burnt, yeah?)
[07:10] <coolkev>  lsmod | grep ^snd >/dev/null && echo
[07:10] <coolkev> lsmod | grep ^snd >/dev/null && echo
[07:10] <theine> w0rd54, wait, in order to make chainloading work, you probably need to do a `sudo grub-install /dev/hda1'
[07:10] <coolkev> i type that where
[07:10] <coolkev> in terminal
[07:10] <L2-CaStLe> mcphail, which opensource driver?
[07:10] <bur[n] er> coolkev: right, in a terminal
[07:10] <Stormx2> coolkev: ya
[07:10] <theine> w0rd54, notice that it says hda1 instead of hda
[07:10] <MaX> yes but the same error did happen with an original CD
[07:10] <coolkev> i did and it shows nothing
[07:10] <Stormx2> MaX: What do you mean, origional cd? You mean a burnt cd/
[07:11] <Stormx2> ?
[07:11] <mirak> hi
[07:11] <Stormx2> hey
[07:11] <sobersabre> what's in C's "bitwise-xor" operator character ? "^" ?
[07:11] <L2-CaStLe> Does anyone know of a plugin/program to slow down the speed of mp3s while playing them?
[07:11] <coolkev> i think i have alsa esd and oss
[07:11] <mirak> I want to do a fsck on / , can I remount it readonly ?
[07:11] <coolkev> all three
[07:11] <soundray> coolkev: You haven't pasted the entire line
[07:11] <mirak> I don't know how to do that, I tried remount
[07:11] <MaX> nop the "distribution".. ahm... they give us the cd in my college
[07:11] <coolkev> lol
[07:11] <sobersabre> L2-CaStLe  alsaplayer has speed slider
[07:11] <coolkev> soundray: nice trick
[07:11] <Stormx2> L2-CaStLe: Hmm, there may be a plugin for something
[07:11] <w0rd54> Theine: i'll try that out
[07:11] <Stormx2> L2-CaStLe: XMMS has a lot of plugins. try that
[07:12] <L2-CaStLe> oh, nice, II'll try that sobersabre
[07:12] <sobersabre> bye
[07:12] <L2-CaStLe> Stormx2, I've found one, and it sucked ass
[07:12] <theine> w0rd54, you know how to chroot in your Linux HD installation, right?
[07:12] <Stormx2> L2-CaStLe: hah
[07:12] <w0rd54> theine: yep
[07:12] <w0rd54> the grub boot loader = present on HD
[07:12] <azriel0184> does anyone know if there is a way to recover an unsaved document from gedit that got killed in a blackout?
[07:12] <w0rd54> just the fact that the CD = going to stay in teh drive no matter if it's win32/linux
[07:12] <theine> w0rd54, okidoki
[07:12] <coolkev> soundray: but really how do i tell what the default ubuntu breezy is using after i upgrade from haory to breezy
[07:12] <coolkev> hoary*
[07:12] <w0rd54> so I need it to boot the MBR of hd regardless of OS installed
[07:12] <bur[n] er> azriel0184: look file filename.blah~
[07:13] <w0rd54> i.e. if no key pressed at menu.lst just boot HD and continue install process
[07:13] <Stormx2> azriel0184: Look for the same file. It will have a tidle at the end (~)
[07:13] <bur[n] er> azriel0184: disregard that, i don't think there is
[07:13] <theine> w0rd54, then chroot into your Linux HD installation and issue `grub-install /dev/hda1'
[07:13] <queuetue> Ahh, users wo have sound access must be in the audio group!
[07:13] <azriel0184> bur[n] er: it wasn't saved...
[07:13] <w0rd54> theine: I believe that's done at the end of ubuntu setup
[07:13] <w0rd54> when I remove cd the HD boots fine
[07:13] <azriel0184> damn, there goes a good hours work...
[07:13] <w0rd54> so boot record/mbr = present
[07:13] <Stormx2> azriel0184: Well, I guess you learn the "Save your work often" lesson the hard way
[07:13] <loufoque> hello
[07:14] <soundray> coolkev: ALSA is default in Ubuntu. Why should it switch spontaneously?
[07:14] <Stormx2> hi
[07:14] <w0rd54> I want to be able to leave CD in the drive and have it boot from HD regardless of os lol
[07:14] <theine> w0rd54, in the end of ubuntu setup, `grub-install /dev/hda' is issued
[07:14] <loufoque> how can I change the screen resolution from the command line ?
[07:14] <w0rd54> theine: hrm, k, I'll add that too my seed
[07:14] <Stormx2> w0rd54: ...why?
[07:14] <theine> w0rd54, there's a difference
[07:14] <w0rd54> ahhh
[07:14] <coolkev> cause in beep-media-player i have OSS running for the plugins
[07:14] <MaX> Stormx2 i will reboot and see the error and i come again
[07:14] <musik> is edubuntu buggy?? often when i open something.it doesnt start up.does this happen in ubuntu also??
[07:14] <w0rd54> theine: what overall difference?
[07:14] <bur[n] er> loufoque: only way I know how is to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart X
[07:14] <Stormx2> MaX: OK
[07:14] <coolkev> and i switch to ALSA it works or OSS it works and Also the esd it works
[07:14] <w0rd54> any adverse affects of hda vs. hda1 boot record?
[07:14] <azriel0184> Stormx2: i didn't need it beyond later this morning, there was a thunderstorm overnight though and we had a blackout...
[07:14] <musik> .or opens after a very long time....
[07:14] <MaX> kay thanks
[07:14] <loufoque> bur[n] er: gnome can do it without restarting X it seems
[07:14] <soundray> coolkev: alsa usually has an OSS emulation layer running.
[07:15] <soundray> coolkev: The module is called snd_pcm_oss
[07:15] <onkarshinde> If I create two key pairs using ssh-keygen, will they be added to same file or only one keypair will exist?
[07:15] <Stormx2> azriel0184: Hmm. Well, if you made a new document, it didn't make a backup.
[07:15] <theine> w0rd54, `grub-install /dev/hda' installs grub in the master boot record of your hard disk and `grub-install /dev/hda1' installs grub in the boot sector of the first partition
[07:15] <soundray> coolkev: You can see it with lsmod
[07:15] <Stormx2> Fuck
[07:16] <raphink> bur[n] er: I uncommented the AddType line in apache2.conf and restarted apache2 but it still won't work
[07:16] <w0rd54> theine: hrm...nice, I'll try it now and put cd back in machine
[07:16] <Stormx2> I have 20 pages of coursework in for tomorow...
[07:16] <raphink> I've doubled checked
[07:16] <raphink> and tried lost of things
[07:16] <w0rd54> theine: thanks for the education tho man...appreciate the info
[07:16] <raphink> but it doesn't owork :(
[07:16] <w0rd54> theine: kinda stumped on this
[07:16] <coolkev> ok thanks soundray, also soundray do you know any acid (windows) like program for linux where i can mix music
[07:16] <theine> w0rd54, you're welcome, hope it works
[07:16] <soundray> onkarshinde: You can tell ssh-keygen to save your key in a named file.
[07:17] <soundray> coolkev: Maybe audacity is what you're looking for. I don't know acid.
[07:17] <coolkev> audacity i heard only works with OSS
[07:17] <paulproteus> raphink: Still working on PHP?
[07:17] <soundray> coolkev: apt-cache show audacity
[07:18] <coolkev> so will it work with breezy?
[07:18] <bur[n] er> raphink: the AddType line with .php files?
[07:18] <raphink> yes paulproteus
[07:18] <coolkev> HappyFool: Thanks for the help yesterday
[07:18] <raphink> paulproteus: I've found something interesting just now
[07:18] <mirak> mount -t reiserfs -o ro,remount /dev/hda6 / doesn't work
[07:18] <paulproteus> raphink: You *must* read the debian-administration URLs I presented you.
[07:18] <HappyFool> coolkev: np
[07:18] <mirak> how can I fsck reiserfs then ?
[07:18] <paulproteus> raphink: Furthermore, I believe that simply "a2enmod php4" will be adequate.
[07:18] <raphink> php*.load is not in mods-enabled
[07:18] <soundray> coolkev: No problem here.
[07:18] <onkarshinde> soundray: That is right. First I created one pair. I used default option i.e. $HOME/.ssh/id_dsa. Now I want to create another pair. But it asks me if I want to overwrite original file. Can't I have two private keys in same file?
[07:19] <paulproteus> raphink: But if you've followed non-Debian or non-Ubuntu instructions, then all bets are off.
[07:19] <raphink> ok paulproteus thanks
[07:19] <paulproteus> raphink: Again, *please* read the d-a.org links...
[07:19] <occy> What tool is good to make an exact copy of a music CD for backup purposes?  We are going on a trip, and I don't want to take my originals.
[07:19] <bur[n] er> eh, i'm of no use raphink, it's be ages since I got it working ;)
[07:19] <raphink> yes paulproteus thanks
[07:19] <raphink> :)
[07:19] <soundray> onkarshinde: I don't know - why would you want to?
[07:19] <mcphail> onkarshinde: why would you _want_ 2 private keys?
[07:19] <bur[n] er> occy: gnomebaker and "copycd"?
[07:19] <DShepherd> how do i install Azureus?
[07:20] <occy> bur[n] er, ahhh, ok.
[07:20] <DShepherd> sudo apt-get install azureus doesnt worj
[07:20] <bur[n] er> DShepherd: ktorrent is cooler ;)
[07:20] <DShepherd> work*
[07:20] <HappyFool> onkarshinde: i don't think so. you can have multiple identities, which are switched by ~/.ssh/config
[07:20] <DShepherd> ok
[07:20] <Manny> hi :)
[07:20] <occy> with someone having a nick like bur[n] er, he probably knows what he's talking about.
[07:20] <occy> ;)
[07:20] <raphink> it worked paulproteus thanks
[07:20] <TuxToaster> does _anyone_ here have nfs working as a server?
[07:20] <onkarshinde> mcphail: soundray: I want to use sf.net's CVS and Compile Farm services. It is not mandatory but recommended to use two keypairs.
[07:21] <DShepherd> bur[n] er: any gnome native apps?
[07:21] <raphink> paulproteus: shouldn't php4 be activated when it's installed by default?
[07:21] <onkarshinde> HappyFool: Can you explain further?
[07:21] <HappyFool> onkarshinde: as i recall it wasn't too complicated. read 'man ssh_config'
[07:21] <NoUse> !nfs
[07:21] <ubotu> well, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:21] <onkarshinde> HappyFool: Ok
[07:21] <musik> is edubuntu buggy?? often when i open something.it doesnt start up.does this happen in ubuntu also??
[07:21] <musik> .or opens after a very long time....
[07:22] <HappyFool> onkarshinde: i think you can specify a key/username per host, or something similar
[07:22] <musik> are u guys facing any probs with ubuntu breezy????????????
[07:22] <HappyFool> musik: one question mark is sufficient ;)
[07:22] <raf256> musik: yes,
[07:22] <NoUse> musik yeah my question mark key is sticking too
[07:22] <raf256> musik: ...its so cool it made me wet my pants :-&
[07:22] <TuxToaster> NoUse: I read those already, nothing is mentioned with this problem.  It keeps telling me that portmap cannot bind to the address no matter what IP I give it
[07:22] <bur[n] er> DShepherd: gnome-btdownload... but it's feature-less
[07:22] <ompaul> musik, what is a problem?
[07:23] <iceman> Got a difficault question, anyone know a full featured linux version that can be installed and run from a fat 32 "dos" system ...
[07:23] <bur[n] er> DShepherd: ktorrent uses less resources than azureus... even under gnome... it's about a quarter of the ram usage
[07:23] <NoUse> TuxToaster is portmap already running by any chance?
[07:23] <DShepherd> bur[n] er: k
[07:23] <bur[n] er> DShepherd: plus ktorrent has a search engine
[07:23] <DShepherd> bur[n] er: kool :)
[07:23] <raf256> iceman: yes, go browse distrowatch.org
[07:23] <TuxToaster> NoUse: nope, not in the process list
[07:23] <bur[n] er> DShepherd: check the ktorrent website for the latest version 1.1 though :)  there's even an ubuntu package there
[07:23] <nalioth> bur[n] er: you actually have gotten ktorrent to work?
[07:24] <TuxToaster> how can you see what has ports open?
[07:24] <bur[n] er> nalioth: yeah
[07:24] <TuxToaster> netstat only showed two connections, neither on port 111 (which is what portmap uses)
[07:24] <bur[n] er> nalioth: DShepherd: http://buranen.info for a screenshot :)  (version 1.0 though.. i'm using 1.1 now)
[07:24] <TuxToaster> !portmap
[07:24] <ubotu> TuxToaster: Do they come in packets of five?
[07:24] <TuxToaster> lol
[07:24] <paulproteus> raphink: Guess not. ;)
[07:24] <TuxToaster> must not know anything about it
[07:25] <iceman> raf256 any idea a good distro, that has "x" and kde or gnome... and is upgradable
[07:25] <NoUse> TuxToaster you may want to check the forums. I haven't used nfs is a while
[07:25] <[dEvIL-bOY] > how can i get the system to accept european language
[07:25] <mcphail> iceman: i'm sure there is one buried in sourcforge.net. How about using qemu/vmware in Windows to install your choice of distro?
[07:25] <raf256> iceman: _I_ do not known, but distrowatch.org knows :)
[07:25] <[dEvIL-bOY] > for example x-chat to allow me to have 
[07:25] <[dEvIL-bOY] > and other european keys?
[07:25] <paulproteus> [dEvIL-bOY] : That works here in Kubuntu.
[07:25] <musik> raf256, u mean ubuntu is so cool???
[07:26] <TuxToaster> NoUse: ok.  If I could get samba shares to mount in a folder transparently I wouldn't use it either, lol
[07:26] <coolkev> iceman: maybe you can try Breezy and Ubuntu
[07:26] <[dEvIL-bOY] > what does it show paulproteus ?
[07:26] <iceman> I prefer UBUNTU, but need a "fallback" on dos... I have and am running Breezy .... thanks
[07:26] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i'm trying to do 'a
[07:27] <[dEvIL-bOY] > but the ' on top of the a
[07:27] <coolkev> iceman: foresight linux is also good
[07:27] <paulproteus> [dEvIL-bOY] : "ae" as a single character is what it shows.
[07:27] <soundray> iceman: How about a live CD?
[07:27] <NoUse> TuxToaster what problems are you having with samba?
[07:27] <coolkev> iceman: foresight linux is also very bleeding-edge
[07:27] <iceman> coolkey Yea, been using the past three distros of ubuntu...
[07:27] <paulproteus> [dEvIL-bOY] : You're running Ubuntu, yes?
[07:27] <[dEvIL-bOY] > yeah
[07:27] <paulproteus> [dEvIL-bOY] : In desktop settings, go to Keyboard config.
[07:27] <paulproteus> [dEvIL-bOY] : That should help you.
[07:27] <iceman> needing a got "howto" for command line, and file structure...
[07:27] <Manny> I'm trying to compile a module for my kernel 2.6.12-9-powerpc, but get:
[07:28] <Manny>     Module compiled for           : 2.6.12
[07:28] <Manny>     Running kernel                : 2.6.12-9-powerpc
[07:28] <HappyFool> [dEvIL-bOY] : under System -> Preferences -> Keyboard, Layout options, I've set the Compose-key position to the Right win-key; that lets me `compose' letters to get  or  or 
[07:28] <Manny> I tried using --append-to-version for make-kpkg but failed
[07:28] <iceman> I need a good "Command Line" howto ... and file structure idea to learn ...
[07:28] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ahh
[07:29] <[dEvIL-bOY] > let's try that
[07:29] <tux-rox> OK, Here is a challenging one: I have a document on a Microsoft Sharepoint site. It is not accessable via SMB or NFS, but is more like a Wiki site. In WindowsXP I can open, change and save the document. Anyone know how to do so in Ubuntu using Open Office and Firefox?
[07:29] <nexyon> hello
[07:29] <TuxToaster> NoUse: I was talking to someone the other day, said that getting samba shares to mount to a folder transparently (i.e. so any program can use them without being samba-aware) requires an ugly hack and that nfs would be the best option...
[07:29] <musik> i will be installing ubuntu......i hope things will be alright.plz i need some solace:) that ubuntu breezy will be without probs and not like edubuntu...
[07:29] <nexyon> has anyone experience with this software: http://www.fs-driver.org/ ? how big is the chance to destroy data?
[07:29] <onkarshinde> nexyon: Hi
[07:29] <[dEvIL-bOY] > aaamnan
[07:29] <[dEvIL-bOY] > nope
[07:29] <musik> does it happen with any of u.that when u open something.........it opens after a very loong time.like login screen setup etc.??
[07:30] <[dEvIL-bOY] > it didn't work
[07:30] <soundray> iceman: http://www.hypexr.org/bash_tutorial.php
[07:30] <Bedbug105> join #ubuntu-fr
[07:30] <raf256> how to play flash?
[07:30] <LeaChim> and again: i've installed festival but when i use (SayText "Hi") it doesn't make a sound. how can i make it work ;)
[07:30] <aeon17x> musik: hmm, never had that occur to me.
[07:30] <ompaul> !tell raf256 about flash
[07:30] <iceman> soundray cool ... thanks ... bookmarked
[07:31] <ompaul> raf256, that page that ubotu tells you about it, you will also want to enable more repositories
[07:31] <Stormx2> How can i turn a command i can type into terminal (long, series of commands) into a command which i can use wherever?
[07:31] <nalioth> Stormx2: in a terminal, "man alias"
[07:31] <onkarshinde> nexyon: I suppose it is read only driver
[07:31] <ompaul> raf256, to find out about that /msg ubotu repos and you will get back the info you need
[07:31] <tux-rox> nexyon, I've used it in the past without trouble, but there is always a chance something could go wrong.
[07:31] <musik> aeon17x, thx..glad to hear that
[07:31] <nalioth> Stormx2: or start your bash scripting career
[07:32] <mcphail> Stormx2: save it in a file making a script
[07:32] <Stormx2> No manual entry for alias
[07:32] <nexyon> so the chance is low?
[07:32] <musik> aeon17x, why do these guys put all their effort into ubuntu...and less attn to partner projects like edubuntu or kubuntu...??
[07:32] <Stormx2> musik: #edubuntu, #kubuntu
[07:32] <estupendocero> I'm upgrading, WHERE in synaptic do I change my repositories to look for breezy?
[07:32] <musik> why ubuntu is less buggier than edubuntu & kubuntu?
[07:32] <paulproteus> musik: Which guys?
[07:32] <nexyon> that it works 100 % is impossible (think of Murphy's law) :-D
[07:32] <musik> developers:)
[07:33] <Stormx2> musik: It isn't?
[07:33] <trappist> Stormx2: alias is a bash builtin.  man bash and search for aliases
[07:33] <aeon17x> musik: It just happens to be more popular, I guess.
[07:33] <soundray> Stormx2: info bash, search for ALIASES (alias is a shell builtin)
[07:33] <iceman> I know of Slackware, but how to get it with "x" and kde/gnome like a zipslack type distro
[07:33] <TuxToaster> how can I find out what is using a certain port?
[07:33] <Stormx2> soundray: How do i run a search in man?
[07:33] <trappist> TuxToaster: netstat -ntlp
[07:33] <aeon17x> musik: Not a lot of people would know about Kubuntu, much less Edubuntu and Xubuntu.
[07:33] <shawarma> trappist: -t?
[07:34] <soundray> Stormx2: if it's paging through less, key /
[07:34] <trappist> TuxToaster: or fuser -v -n tcp <port>
[07:34] <musik> aeon17x, why? edubuntu is so imp for schools.and kde is most popular wm...
[07:34] <TuxToaster> aha!
[07:34] <Stormx2> soundray: it is paging...
[07:34] <TuxToaster> it's asterisk that's using the same port
[07:35] <Stormx2> soundray: I just don't know how to search...
[07:35] <mcphail> Stormx2: /string
[07:35] <trappist> Stormx2: /ALIASES<enter>
[07:35] <soundray> Stormx2: Try the / key (forward slash)
[07:35] <ompaul> TuxToaster, and for more fun in that space have a look at a program called lsof, for what has a file open
[07:35] <aeon17x> musik: Again, it's the popularity.
[07:35] <trappist> <3 lsof
[07:36] <Stormx2> ok thanks :)
[07:36] <ompaul> trappist, I know I like a lot of programs but thats a bit extreme :)
[07:36] <musik> aeon17x, i see......but not quite so fair for kubuntu lovers:)
[07:36] <bigfleet> What could be the problem if netstat tells me I'm listening on a port, but I can't connect to it?
[07:36] <trappist> ompaul: you should see me with screen :)
[07:36] <bigfleet> I'm on a quite new Breezy
[07:36] <eedge> what are the first things I should do after dist-upgrade (apart from restarting).
[07:36] <mcphail> screen rocks
[07:36] <musik> aeon17x, but ain't edubuntu exactly same as ubuntu...except with few more apps?? isnt it then supposed to perform equally well as ubuntu??
[07:37] <ompaul> trappist, maybe not :-) /me launches a gui to block all visiblity :)
[07:37] <musik> technically speaking......
[07:37] <rise> hi
[07:37] <soundray> eedge: Start working.
[07:37] <ompaul> hello
[07:37] <rise> how should i uninstall completely ubuntu?
[07:38] <trappist> ompaul: good move.  it can get quite obscene.
[07:38] <rise> is there any option to do so?
[07:38] <nalioth> Stormx2: worth your time, asking uncle google about "alias"
[07:38] <ompaul> rise, install something else
[07:38] <Stormx2> so, I can type "alias <alias name> <aleas action>"
[07:38] <Stormx2> *alias
[07:38] <ompaul> rise, or am I missing something?
[07:38] <rise> oh
[07:38] <rise> im on windows right now
[07:38] <rise> and i amde a partition on the same drive to install ubuntu
[07:38] <rise> *made
[07:39] <ompaul> rise, do you want to install ubuntu?
[07:39] <musik> Stormx2,  alias newname='actualcommand'
[07:39] <mcphail> Stormx2: add it to .bashrc or .bash_profile
[07:39] <Stormx2> rise: Delete the partition, resize current partition
[07:39] <rise> okie
[07:39] <trappist> Stormx2: alias ll="ls -l -k"
[07:39] <rise> that should work ?
[07:39] <ompaul> rise, you said "rise: how should i uninstall completely ubuntu?" << reads like remove
[07:39] <rise> hehe yes
[07:39] <nalioth> Stormx2: aliases are wonderful, but you can do some bash scripting too if you'd rather. both will fulfill your request
[07:40] <rise> and what about the boot loader thingie ubuntu installs?
[07:40] <ompaul> rise, is that what you want?
[07:40] <rise> that will go away too after i delete the partition?
[07:40] <Stormx2> nalioth, mcphail, musik, soundray, trappist, THANKYOU!
[07:40] <soundray> Stormx2: See you
[07:40] <musik> Stormx2, welcome:)
[07:41] <Stormx2> I'm not going just yet, just saying thanks ;D
[07:41] <puff> You know what ubuntu needs?   A search engine for the menus...
[07:41] <paulproteus> puff: Ouch.
[07:41] <farruinn> puff: why do you say that?
[07:41] <musik> nalioth is a nice nick.reminds me of gladiator;)
[07:41] <puff> Maybe just a history of what items are added to the menu bars and where.
[07:41] <soundray> rise: boot from a DOS floppy, type fdisk /mbr
[07:41] <rise> ompaul, yes i want to uninstall
[07:41] <Spiritory> I just had a question, How is it people at Ubuntu are able to ship cd's for free to everyone?!
[07:41] <Stormx2> hang on, what if the command i'm using contains single quotes. Will it matter, or do I need to escape them?
[07:41] <Spiritory> in loads as big as 60
[07:41] <farruinn> puff: personally I think they are very well organized
[07:42] <Spiritory> 40*
[07:42] <puff> farruinn: I just apt'd dia (diagramming app from gnome) and I can't figure out if or where it installed dia on the menus.
[07:42] <Nihil85> ciao MasterYuri
[07:42] <musik> Spiritory, coz they have lotsa money;)
[07:42] <puff> farruinn: This is a not uncommon experience, from what I've observed here :-).
[07:42] <paulproteus> puff: A history would be neat.
[07:42] <Spiritory> but their non-profit?
[07:42] <Spiritory> they must be nuts.
[07:42] <paulproteus> puff: Maybe each Ubuntu system should have a blog that gets updated by the package manager.
[07:42] <paulproteus> That's the Firefox homepage.
[07:42] <puff> Are the menus defined in a text file anywhere?
[07:42] <Stormx2> Guys who were helping me, look up ;-)
[07:42] <musik> rise, doing things with livecd wud be nice
[07:42] <Stormx2> brb foodings
[07:42] <puff> paulproteus:  I've wanted one of htose for ages.
[07:42] <soundray> Spiritory: What makes you say they're non-profit?
[07:42] <ompaul> rise, well just reinstall windows
[07:43] <puff> paulproteus: Almost enough to make me want to dust off my C skills.
[07:43] <rise> :(
[07:43] <rixth> Hi, I have this process using up 80% of ym CPU: /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg. Can I kill it?
[07:43] <paulproteus> puff: C?  Python!
[07:43] <ompaul> rise, I suggest you do to #windows the rest of your questions are not really linux based
[07:43] <mirak> I have a problem with the update-manager, it says that "apt base is locked"
[07:43] <Stormx2> yay for python
[07:43] <mirak> but it's not
[07:43] <Spiritory> sounray: nm lol,
[07:43] <puff> paulproteus: Oh?  Aptitude is written in python?
[07:43] <rise> there must be a way to remove manually the boot loader option ubuntu installs
[07:43] <EmergeTW> !ati
[07:43] <paulproteus> puff: No, but who cares? ;)
[07:43] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[07:43] <Spiritory> If I own a small multimedia business within my home called Limitless solutions, does that count as an organization?
[07:43] <ompaul> rise, you can use grub to remove itself
[07:43] <Spiritory> it's just something me and buddies have started in our 3rd year of high school
[07:44] <puff> paulproteus:  I've been keeping a journal of my ubutun expereince, with an intent of cleaning it up and publishing it.  I'm beginning to think I should just publish it as-is.
[07:44] <paulproteus> puff: That makes sense.
[07:44] <rise> ok
[07:44] <musik> rise, reinstalling windows wud remove that bootloader...installing another distro will also do that.
[07:44] <paulproteus> puff: You might as well have maintained it as a blog in the first place.
[07:44] <Welly> is there any gnome accessory that shows a little icon when thunderbird receives new mail?
[07:44] <rise> thanks ompaul
[07:44] <puff> paulproteus: Blah, I hate blogs :-).
[07:44] <rise> ill try with grub itself
[07:44] <farruinn> puff: dia is in universe, so it may not have a .desktop file which means it wouldn't be in the menus by default
[07:45] <paulproteus> puff: Eh, they're a nice, simple, date-oriented content-management system.  What else do you want? :)
[07:45] <farruinn> puff: you can access the menu editor: Applications>System Tools>Applications Menu Editor
[07:45] <puff> paulproteus: I have a little CGI script I put together to make it easy for me to write articles in emacs, with some really simple wiki-like markup, and publish it.
[07:45] <mcphail> Welly: there used to be, but i think it was removed
[07:45] <paulproteus> puff: Ooh, that sounds cool.
[07:45] <ali> I hava a problem with nmblookup. It works only when the firewall is stopped. It guess it is using high numbered ports since nmbd is using port 137. Can someone help ?
[07:45] <Welly> mcphail: that's a shamer
[07:45] <Welly> -r
[07:45] <puff> paulproteus:  a) the fundamental idea of blogs is to be shallow, b) blog softare is not really easy to use or work with, and especially not as useful for longer works.
[07:45] <puff> paulproteus: darksleep.com/notablog
[07:45] <paulproteus> puff: Interesting.
[07:45] <eedge> 8 mins left on dis-upgrade download :)
[07:46] <[dEvIL-bOY] > how can i tell if i have a vnc user logged in my machine?
[07:46] <mcphail> Welly: try right-clicking a gnome panel and seeing which applets can be added
[07:46] <paulproteus> puff: I'm working on hacking MediaWiki into making date-oriented publishing easier.
[07:46] <iceman> Dang.. i am impressed, of irc channels, Debian and Ubuntu numer one and number 2 .... Awsome ...
[07:46] <rise> how do i get to grub's options/control panel??
[07:46] <puff> paulproteus: I've actually mellowed a bit about blogs, the past year or two;  I still hold the same fundamental views, but I'm not as offended by blogs, for some reason.
[07:46] <puff> paulproteus: I really need to get around to adding sort-by-date to notablog.
[07:46] <mcphail> Welly: i don't have a GUI running at present to check myself
[07:46] <Welly> mcphail: nothing that mentioned email unfortunately!
[07:46] <puff> paulproteus: However, the entire raison d'etre of notablog is that I'm lazy, so...
[07:47] <Welly> mcphail: no worries, i'll check the ubuntu forum, i'm sure somoene might have asked before
[07:47] <mcphail> Welly: you could try downgrading to Warty!
[07:47] <gimmulf> Why isnt Crossover-Office in package manager?=
[07:47] <Welly> mcphail: i've got this running just fine thank you :)
[07:47] <Welly> apart from email notification
[07:47] <Spiritory> when ubuntu thing says "5 pc cd's etc) does that mean... 5 copies of the same cd
[07:47] <Spiritory> or is ubuntu in full, 5 cd's /
[07:48] <farruinn> Spiritory: you're looking at shipit? the install cd is only one cd
[07:48] <gimmulf> !crossover-office
[07:48] <ubotu> Not a clue, gimmulf
[07:48] <ompaul> Spiritory, where is this?
[07:48] <gimmulf> !crossover
[07:48] <ubotu> gimmulf: Syntax error in line 1
[07:48] <Spiritory> shipit.ubuntu.com
[07:48] <gimmulf> !Cross
[07:48] <ubotu> I don't know, gimmulf
[07:48] <farruinn> Spiritory: five copies then
[07:48] <gimmulf> :<
[07:48] <nalioth> gimmulf: what are you looking for?
[07:49] <gimmulf> nalioth:  Crossover-office
[07:49] <Spiritory> hrm, well i only need 2, so should just do a custom order of 2 pc cds?
[07:49] <ompaul> Spiritory, you only need one, they send you five, and five live CDs
[07:49] <runedude_> hey guys, im on a new ubuntu install :) working great
[07:49] <jamie465> anyone here familiar with php and mysql ?
[07:49] <nalioth> gimmulf: what about it? info? location?
[07:49] <Spiritory> Oo
[07:49] <ompaul> Spiritory, hand them on
[07:49] <gimmulf> nalioth:  i want to install it but cant find it in package manager :)
[07:49] <ali> I hava a problem with nmblookup. It works only when the firewall is stopped. It guess it is using high numbered ports since nmbd is using port 137. Can someone help ?
[07:49] <Spiritory> whats more likely to be approved, 2 pc cd's in custom, or 5
[07:49] <nalioth> gimmulf: that's because you must pay for it
[07:49] <ompaul> Spiritory, the idea is to give them away to people who might have an interest
[07:49] <runedude_> I got a tiny question w/ rt2500. When the device installs itself, it names the interface "wlan0", but the RaConfig2500 wants the device to be named "ra0" , is there a way to change it?
[07:49] <gimmulf> nalioth:  ahha :<
[07:50] <Spiritory> I have an interest, including my friend
[07:50] <Spiritory> and im literally so flat broke i cant afford blank cd's right now hha
[07:50] <Spiritory> haha*
[07:50] <ompaul> Spiritory, well between you you know 3 more people
[07:50] <fearphage> is there a way to install postfix-tls in breezy? apt says it is not compatible with the version of postfix i have
[07:50] <Spiritory> : o
[07:50] <Spiritory> Tuche,
[07:50] <nalioth> fearphage: if you use ubuntu sources, everything should be compatible
[07:50] <fearphage> i know i can force it to install but will that fix it
[07:50] <nalioth> fearphage: if you use non ubuntu pkgs, you get what you get
[07:51] <fearphage> nalioth: i installed postfix from apt-get as well
[07:51] <ompaul> Spiritory, it would cost them more to do 2 than 5 they would have to spend time on it - 5 is wrap em and ship em
[07:51] <nalioth> fearphage: remove postfix and install postfix-tls
[07:51] <farruinn> how many cd's do you have to order for them to come in a box?
[07:51] <runedude_> anyone?
[07:51] <ompaul> farruinn, make your own box :-) the design is there online
[07:52] <nalioth> runedude_: make a symlink to it. (mucking with your network settings is not good)
[07:52] <TuxToaster> sweetness
[07:52] <TuxToaster> got samba working
[07:52] <nalioth> ompaul: no he wants to know if he orders 5000, do they come in a box or many bags
[07:52] <raf256> how to install two linuxes? should they share the /boot partition?
[07:52] <TuxToaster> now I can play my music on any box from a shared folder
[07:52] <runedude_> nalioth, hmm?
[07:52] <NoUse> raf256 probably not, they could share a swap partition
[07:53] <runedude_> nalioth, the prob is.. its wlan0, i was wondering if there were some parameters to make the device called ra0 instead.
[07:53] <soundray> raf256: No
[07:53] <farruinn> ompaul: I thought that if you ordered a certain number they came in a nice box
[07:53] <raf256> so, I have installed ubuntu (boot=hda1 root=hda5)  and now I want to install debian - how?
[07:53] <runedude_> brb
[07:53] <nalioth> runedude_: i dont mess with my network devices and their preferences
[07:53] <runedude_> nalioth, well
[07:54] <runedude_> i _NEED_ to use the raconfig2500
[07:54] <runedude_> but
[07:54] <runedude_> it wants ra0
[07:54] <ompaul> 40 in a small box and then I think its boxes of 240
[07:54] <runedude_> brb im gonna try a reboot
[07:54] <Spiritory> how long on average does shipit.ubuntu.com take to ship?
[07:54] <max> Stormx2
[07:54] <ompaul> farruinn, na they come in cardboard boxes
[07:54] <max> i will install the ubuntu 5.04
[07:55] <fearphage> nalioth: done. here is the error i get (same as before): postfix-tls: Depends: postfix but it is not going to be installed; Depends: postfix (= 2.1.3-1ubuntu17) but it is not going to be installed
[07:55] <ompaul> max, only do most basic and then update it
[07:55] <max> wich system file of partition I use to install linux??
[07:55] <nalioth> fearphage: have you ever used a non ubuntu pkg?
[07:55] <nalioth> max: ext3
[07:55] <fearphage> nalioth: nope
[07:55] <lajuj> I am trying to install my broadcom wireless card drivers with ndiswrapper, and I am getting this weird string of permission denied's when trying to change the conffile.  Does anyone have an idea?
[07:56] <EmergeTW> I used synaptic to install xorg-driver-fglrx, but when I run fglrxinfo it is still showing the info for the old drivers, I have rebooted and have the same result, any suggestions?
[07:56] <andydavid> hola alguien habla espaol
[07:56] <nalioth> fearphage: are you on amd64 or ppc or something?
[07:56] <nalioth> !es
[07:56] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:56] <NoUse> lajuj is the config file outside your home dir? if so are you using sudo?
[07:56] <andydavid> no hay nadie
[07:56] <lajuj> nouse, it is outside my home dir, but I am using sudo in my command
[07:56] <sorush20> guys why does KPDF seeme to have a corrupt out put?
[07:57] <NoUse> lajuj so you run sudo nano /etc/filewhatever and when you try to save it it doesn't let you?
[07:57] <max> and the mount point and reserved blocks ?
[07:57] <soundray> I want a new laptop to run Ubuntu. Should I go for a Turion 64? Any experiences?
[07:58] <max> nalioth ?
[07:58] <Toxix> hello
[07:58] <lajuj> nouse, I am doing  `do sudo cat conffile . . .'
[07:58] <nalioth> max?
[07:58] <Toxix> how i can mount ext3 partition??
[07:58] <max> i put Ext3
[07:58] <max> and there are 2 choices
[07:58] <nalioth> lajuj: all you need is 'cat conffile'
[07:58] <fearphage> nalioth: 686 if thats what you mean. 32 bit proc
[07:59] <max> reserved bloks: 5%
[07:59] <max> and Mount point i put /windows
[07:59] <NoUse> lajuj why are you using do and cat to change a text file?
[07:59] <nalioth> fearphage: try this: in a console, type "sudo apt-get build-dep postfix" , when that finishes type "sudo apt-get -b source postfix"
[07:59] <ompaul> max, after you install the machine you do the windows stuff its easier
[07:59] <BockBilbo> is it possible to speed up the cd burning speed on ubuntu?
[07:59] <nalioth> fearphage: you'll need your deb-src lines enabled, too
[07:59] <dragonkh> hi
[07:59] <Taa5i> Greetings.  I am having a problem with the ubuntu machine I am trying to build.  Apt-get update fails with a lot of 404's related to the archive server.  I hjave manually checked for the existence of the files it wants and they are there.  Any thoughts?
[07:59] <lajuj> nouse I am doing a how to for installing broadcom drivers http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=ndiswrapper
[07:59] <BockBilbo> it seens to go much slower than in win
[08:00] <dragonkh> isit possible to format my usb hard disk to work under windows from linux ?
[08:00] <max> ompaul thanks and the reserved blocks? let the 5%
[08:00] <soundray> Toxix: "mount /dev/hdaX /mnt" where X is the partition number, assuming an IDE disk
[08:00] <max> ?
[08:00] <Toxix> soundray thx
[08:00] <NoUse> lajuj did you for the for line before you type the do... line?
[08:00] <hav0k> ok guys, i need some help.  i cant get my usb thumb drive to work
[08:00] <ompaul> max, yes one accepts the suggested values as they are reasonable unless you are seeking something else
[08:01] <nalioth> NoUse: what is "do" ?
[08:01] <lajuj> nouse, haha, I think that is the problem
[08:01] <max> kay
[08:01] <lajuj> nouse, I'm so silly
[08:01] <NoUse> nalioth when you write a bash loop, for blah; do something; done;
[08:02] <nalioth> NoUse: ah, it confused me in the above usage
[08:02] <sorush20> why is it that some files don't open well in kpdf and other pdf viewer but they open very well in Adobe Reader?
[08:03] <shinu> can someone tell me how to change wallpaper in gnome? im on xfce and im helping someone :D
[08:03] <NoUse> shinu I think you can just right click on the desktop
[08:03] <henryson> sorush20: they might use a newer version of the "pdf-standard"
[08:04] <fearphage> thx, its building now. hope it works
[08:04] <shinu> NoUse: and then? step by step please... im writing an email xP
[08:04] <NoUse> shinu I don't know, I'm not in front of my machine
[08:04] <NoUse> shinu try googling it
[08:04] <henryson> shinu: choose "change background"
[08:04] <shinu> NoUse: oh..
[08:04] <K_Dallas> sorush20, do you have acrobat reader 7 installed?
[08:04] <shinu> NoUse: im trying google ofc :P
[08:04] <henryson> "change desktop background"
[08:04] <shinu> henryson: right click > change background?
[08:05] <nalioth> fearphage: when it's done building , "sudo dpkg -i whatever_it_named_itself.deb
[08:05] <henryson> on ubuntu 5.10 it is right click, "change desktop background"!
[08:05] <K_Dallas> sorush20, some of the pdf viewers are unable to handle all the tricks of the new pdf formats of acrobat-7
[08:05] <nalioth> shinu: yes, it's simple
[08:05] <shinu> henryson: i think that machine is still 5.04... no difference right?..
[08:06] <henryson> i don't think so...
[08:06] <shinu> henryson: ok, ill try telling him then :) thanks a lot
[08:06] <henryson> otherwise it is "system", "preferences", "desktop background"
[08:07] <shinu> ok, great
[08:08] <BockBilbo> can anyone tell me if the ubuntu backports still exist? ive heard that they will be about to be maintained by archives.ubuntu.com...
[08:08] <BockBilbo> but havent find more info about it
[08:08] <smi|e> anyone got a good site with a list of good apps for breezy?
[08:08] <smi|e> anyone got a good site with a list of good apps for breezy?
[08:08] <nalioth> BockBilbo: not for breezy yet
[08:08] <Amaranth> smi|e: Please don't repeat yourself.
[08:08] <NoUse> smi|e synaptic
[08:08] <nalioth> smi|e: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:08] <Amaranth> smi|e: synaptic is a list of good apps ;)
[08:08] <smi|e> ok
[08:09] <Amaranth> smi|e: If you need a more details selection you need to tell us what you want to do
[08:09] <BockBilbo> nalioth, but are they planned to be made?
[08:09] <nalioth> BockBilbo: of course
[08:09] <smi|e> Amaranth: web design and graphics
[08:09] <Amaranth> smi|e: gedit
[08:09] <Stormx2> hiya
[08:09] <Amaranth> smi|e: Applications->Accessories->Text Editor
[08:09] <smi|e> Amaranth: i mean web design
[08:09] <smi|e> like dreamweaver
[08:09] <smi|e> but for linux
[08:09] <NoUse> smi|e nvu
[08:09] <smi|e> not plain HTML
[08:10] <Amaranth> smi|e: ick, WYSIWYG apps suck
[08:10] <Amaranth> but yeah, nvu
[08:10] <smi|e> i got nvu, is there any others?
[08:10] <Amaranth> nope
[08:10] <BockBilbo> nalioth, is there any release date schedulled?
[08:10] <Stormx2> smi|e: WYSIWYG apps for linux are scarce. You should learn HTML =)
[08:10] <smi|e> kk
[08:10] <nalioth> smi|e: plenty, have a look
[08:10] <smi|e> is html easy too learn Stormx2
[08:10] <Amaranth> very easy
[08:10] <Stormx2> smi|e: Ya. Try getting Bluefish
[08:10] <NoUse> smi|e search around in synaptic and you'll probably find something
[08:10] <nalioth> BockBilbo: backports are "back ported" from the developement version. let them get some developement done, eh?
[08:10] <smi|e> ok
[08:11] <smi|e> ty guys
[08:11] <smi|e> :))
[08:11] <Stormx2> smi|e: Really basic website is www.lissaexplains.com -> its a bit outdated and non-complient, but for beginners, great
[08:11] <BockBilbo> nalioth, hehe :) thanks so much
[08:11] <eedge> installing upgrade.
[08:11] <eedge> hopefully this wont kill me :)
[08:11] <eedge> lol
[08:11] <Stormx2> remind me how to set aliases, i forgot already :(
[08:11] <BockBilbo> bye
[08:12] <smi|e> anyone know a good addon site for xchat
[08:12] <Mestules> how i can change language of gnome in ubuntu?
[08:13] <smi|e> Mestules: change in the settings
[08:13] <smi|e> Mestules: bare with me
[08:13] <kandoora_> how many of you use aptitude
[08:13] <fearphage> nalioth: then try to install postfix-tls again?
[08:13] <ompaul> kandoora_, you dont really want answers from 600 + do you?
[08:13] <Mestules> bare?
[08:13] <smi|e> Mestules: system >> administration >> language selector
[08:13] <Mestules> oks
[08:13] <Mestules> thx smi|e
[08:13] <smi|e> kandoora_: i do
[08:13] <smi|e> Mestules: your more than welcome
[08:14] <nalioth> fearphage: that is the plan, yes
[08:14] <smi|e> nalioth: your a ubuntu representitive right? / contact
[08:14] <Mestules> smi|e,  but before i change language in language selector but dont change :(
[08:14] <USER03955> ciao
[08:14] <saniX> hi guys
[08:14] <eedge> I'm doing dist-upgrade
[08:14] <eedge> and about every 5 seconds..
[08:14] <smi|e> Mestules: You have selected the language?
[08:14] <kandoora_> ompaul, is it better as opposed to synaptic
[08:14] <eedge> I get this:
[08:14] <nalioth> smi|e: one of many, i guess
[08:14] <eedge> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:14] <eedge> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:14] <eedge> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:14] <fearphage> nalioth: same error. i have serach online for answers with nothing
[08:14] <smi|e> nalioth: im becomming one next week
[08:15] <ompaul> kandoora_, do what ever your comfortable with
[08:15] <Stormx2> anyone know about aliases? :(
[08:15] <Mestules> yes smi|e
[08:15] <nalioth> smi|e: great!
[08:15] <smi|e> nalioth: taking over ubuntu-uk channel
[08:15] <smi|e> i am
[08:15] <ompaul> kandoora_, there is no better
[08:15] <smi|e> Mestules: Try restarting
[08:15] <smi|e> after selecting language
[08:15] <Mestules> yes smi|e
[08:15] <soundray> eedge: Don't worry about it.
[08:15] <nalioth> fearphage: did you dpkg -i the postfix deb you had made?
[08:15] <eedge> ok, thanks :)
[08:15] <LoppApan> Stormx2: alias in bash?
[08:15] <Mestules> and the language of nautilus dont change also
[08:15] <ompaul> kandoora_, it is harder, in terms of understanding what your doing
[08:15] <eedge> was a tad conserned ;)
[08:15] <eedge> lol
[08:15] <smi|e> Mestules: select the language, save, and restart
[08:15] <soundray> eedge: Just be sure to run dpkg-reconfigure locales at the end if it still happens
[08:15] <smi|e> Mestules: if that doesnt work, maybe nalioth can help,
[08:16] <saniX> Stormx2; try
[08:16] <Mestules> oks
[08:16] <Mestules> thx smi|e
[08:16] <smi|e> but mine came in english, and i speak english, so its ok
[08:16] <smi|e> Mestules: your welcome
[08:16] <smi|e> i've got ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu on this pc, im a freak ;)
[08:16] <smi|e> lol
[08:16] <nalioth> smi|e: and? so do many of us
[08:17] <saniX> crazy ubuntu smi|e ;p
[08:17] <kandoora_> ompaul, but from what i understand it is good when uninstalling an app, is it true that it removes any depends that came along with it?
[08:17] <smi|e> nalioth: just saying ;)
[08:17] <smi|e> thats all
[08:17] <smi|e> saniX: lol
[08:17] <saniX> lol
[08:17] <smi|e> and xp, but that sucks
[08:17] <smi|e> ;)
[08:17] <saniX> ubuntu it's very good for laptops
[08:17] <ompaul> kandoora_, if you use synaptic and have problems then ask how to remove something, it can help, there are other tools, dpkg if you want to be cruel :)
[08:18] <soundray> I'm looking for experiences with Ubuntu on Turion processors - anyone?
[08:18] <fearphage> noirequus: i did dpkg -i that package
[08:18] <kandoora_> ompaul, bottom line?
[08:19] <smi|e> saniX: i have xp ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu on this laptop
[08:19] <smi|e> and its running better than when i got it
[08:19] <saniX> i thing ubuntu will be kill Redhat as soon as :)
[08:19] <smi|e> ;)
[08:19] <smi|e> redhat sucks
[08:19] <saniX> but i like all linux
[08:19] <saniX> ;p
[08:19] <smi|e> i run it on my work servers
[08:19] <smi|e> does the job
[08:19] <smi|e> bbl going out
[08:19] <smi|e> cya
[08:19] <point> *, wondering if any has the problem i do with KDE, it tends to put white lines in the title bar of windows.
[08:20] <NightLord> I've installed ubuntu on a 400MHz machine with 120Mb ram
[08:20] <NightLord> should i stick with gnome or use XFCE
[08:20] <saniX> redhat for server very very cool
[08:20] <nadjyla> too slow
[08:20] <nadjyla> NightLord, xfce, fvvwm or e17
[08:20] <kandoora_> is klik a good thing?  http://klik.atekon.de
[08:20] <soundray> NightLord: If you have the disk space, try it out before you switch.
[08:20] <ompaul> kandoora_, if you use synaptic it should be okay, you know where we are if you get stuck, put your error message or picture in paste.ubuntulinux.nl before you do come in and then say "yadayada problem url Y" where you change those words and no issues, but I don't think you will have any, as long as you never presume you know something you are not sure of - cos that is the surefire way of breaking things :)
[08:21] <NightLord> ok
[08:21] <LoppApan> NightLord: xfce I would say, I run ubunutu on a 300 with beautiful ratpoison as windowmanager. less is better with older machines
[08:21] <nadjyla> i have the same computer NightLord and e17 works very well
[08:21] <NightLord> just running a few tests with this pc
[08:21] <ompaul> kandoora_, not in ubuntu
[08:21] <NightLord> all on apt-get universal repository?
[08:21] <nadjyla> no. not e17
[08:22] <nadjyla> you can take xfce or fwvm with apt-get
[08:22] <Stormx2> saniX, LoppApan: I am trying to alias quite a long command, with some special characters, etc. but when i do alias blaa='whatever', it just takes me to the bash prompt (I think. It goes ">"). Is there another way, maybe put the command in a file?
[08:22] <NightLord> ok, and get e17 somewhere else
[08:22] <Mestules> smi|e,  i restart with save but my gnome dont change of language :(
[08:22] <NightLord> ok, i'll install em all and try :)
[08:22] <NightLord> but not KDE, KDE sucks
[08:22] <LoppApan> Stormx2: yes, make a small bashprogram instead
[08:22] <kandoora_> ompaul, how come it's not good
[08:22] <nadjyla> NightLord, with your smal computer you can desactivate things
[08:22] <Stormx2> LoppApan: Right. How?
[08:23] <saniX> nadjyla; why you are using xfce
[08:23] <LoppApan> Stormx2: make a bin directory in your homedir
[08:23] <saniX> kde or gnome are cool for u
[08:23] <soundray> StormX: You've got unbalanced quotes or parentheses then.
[08:23] <nadjyla> saniX, tss read before
[08:23] <NoUse> Mestules I think you might need to install the appropriate lanuage packages from synaptic
[08:23] <LoppApan> Stormx2: add: export PATH="$PATH:/home/username/bin" to .bashrc
[08:24] <yohan> i tried doing dchroot -d but i get this error: Unknown id: yohan
[08:24] <LoppApan> Stormx2: later, make a bashscript in that directory and chmod 700 to that program
[08:24] <yohan> how do i fix that?
[08:24] <ompaul> kandoora_, it is designed more for live FS things - you have one tool it is good use it, then when you know that learn another one and you will be able to compare and contrast :) and if that is the case learn all you can in this order synaptic, apt-get, dpkg, klik << kde tool
[08:24] <LoppApan> Stormx2: then you can call it as you wish
[08:24] <saniX> guys that's strang ubuntu has not Real Player package
[08:25] <Mestules> NoUse,  my language is install but after of install someprogram change language :(
[08:25] <Stormx2> LoppApan: OK. For the bash program, I guess I name the file what the command will be called. Then do I just copy & paste the workings into the file, or is it more xomplex than that?
[08:25] <franzi> hi
[08:25] <LoppApan> Stormx2: basically it's just that. try it out
[08:25] <Stormx2> LoppApan: Thanks :)
[08:25] <LoppApan> Stormx2: put #!/bin/bash on the top of that file
[08:25] <Stormx2> LoppApan: Where is bash.rc
[08:25] <Stormx2> LoppApan: OK
[08:25] <LoppApan> Stormx2: .bahrc is in your homedir
[08:25] <nadjyla> saniX, it not strange. real sux
[08:25] <LoppApan> Stormx2: .bashrc is in your homedir
[08:26] <point> sha bang
[08:26] <Geuis> hola
[08:26] <Stormx2> .bashrc infact ;-)
[08:26] <saniX> nadjyla;lol
[08:26] <Geuis> new install of kubuntu, hangs at checking battery state
[08:26] <Geuis> Im stuck
[08:26] <nadjyla> and you can read real with kaffeine, xine and many others
[08:26] <yohan> i tried doing dchroot -d but i get this error: Unknown id: yohan, anyone have any ideas?
[08:26] <skiy> hello folks, any idea why some URLs may be resolving to 1.0.0.0 in a fresh ubuntu install ?
[08:26] <franzi> hello
[08:27] <nadjyla> hello world
[08:27] <LoppApan> skiy: dns-problem I would say.
[08:27] <saniX> nadjyla; xine can be open RAM,RM ?
[08:27] <nadjyla> yes
[08:27] <skiy> LoppApan: what part of ubuntu is that ?
[08:27] <LoppApan> skiy: your network configuration
[08:27] <saniX> nice im not use it before
[08:27] <Digis> !skype
[08:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:27] <LoppApan> skiy: /etc/resolv.conf or that network program tool in gnome
[08:28] <franzi> how are you?
[08:28] <nadjyla> saniX, i think mplayer can too
[08:28] <trappist> it can
[08:28] <Geuis> anyone ever get stuck at boot at 'checking battery state'?
[08:28] <skiy> LoppApan: thx. Although I did set the DNS servers correctly, and the wierd thing is that "ping" will always resolve a URL correctly
[08:28] <carambol> #ubuntu
[08:28] <skiy> but some programs, e.g. apt-get, will resolve to 1.0.0.0 ... wierd ?!
[08:28] <LoppApan> skiy: when I use my router as dns in ubuntu, it nebver works. I just put in some dns-server I know works instead.
[08:29] <skiy> LoppApan: oh i c
[08:29] <LoppApan> skiy: and then, it always works.
[08:29] <tommi^> Hi. Is there a note taking program like tomboy which can save notes through ssh so I'd have access to the notes with www-browser? Actually a network plugin for tomboy would be ideal.
[08:29] <skiy> well I will put my known to work DNS at the front of the list
[08:29] <nadjyla> so saniX , dont lost your time with the reallplayer or with helix
[08:29] <skiy> LoppApan: thank you, I will try that tomorrow ;)
[08:29] <LoppApan> skiy: altough host and ping works with router as dns, but no other program
[08:29] <LoppApan> skiy: good luck
[08:30] <Stormx2> LoppApan: OK, I've done all you've said, but its not finding the command?
[08:30] <Geuis> is there a better channel for assistance in setting up kubuntu for the first time?
[08:30] <boss85> slt
[08:30] <boss85> kelkun a til une quickcam zoom
[08:30] <saniX> brb
[08:30] <LoppApan> Stormx2: ok, I'm gussing you are still in the same terminal?
[08:30] <nadjyla> Geuis, #kubuntu
[08:30] <skiy> LoppApan: well, konqueror works, but not mozilla, tres etrange
[08:30] <Stormx2> LoppApan: Good point ;-)
[08:30] <LoppApan> Stormx2: u have to reload your .bashrc
[08:30] <LoppApan> Stormx2: source .bashrc or the beautiful . .bashrc
[08:30] <moccah> !xfce
[08:30] <ubotu> from memory, xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[08:31] <LoppApan> Stormx2: that reloads it.
[08:31] <Stormx2> LoppApan: IT WORKED!
[08:31] <LoppApan> Stormx2: goodie!
[08:31] <yohan> anyone know where i can get help?
[08:31] <Stormx2> barney@ubuntu:~/test$ ucwords
[08:31] <Stormx2> ./lol uber ==> ./Lol Uber
[08:31] <Stormx2> ./i am A folder ==> ./I Am A Folder
[08:31] <Stormx2> ./another folder ==> ./Another Folder
[08:31] <Stormx2> :D
[08:31] <franzi> wher i can download me skype for linux?
[08:31] <yohan> also ubuntuforums seems down
[08:31] <Stormx2> !tell franzi about skype
[08:31] <Stormx2> franzi: Check your messages from ubotu
[08:31] <Slarti2> franzi : skype website?
[08:31] <LoppApan> Stormx2: now check out some bash programming howtos on the net. U can do great stuff with some basic knowledge
[08:31] <franzi> what do you mean?
[08:32] <Stormx2> LoppApan: Will do man :) Thanks
[08:32] <LoppApan> Stormx2: np :)
[08:32] <nadjyla> franzi, http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb
[08:32] <Stormx2> skype is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:32] <franzi> oke
[08:32] <franzi> thanks
[08:32] <Stormx2> franzi: Follow the last url
[08:32] <Slarti2> franzi, http://www.skype.com/products/skype/linux/
[08:32] <Stormx2> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl <-- That one
[08:32] <alekz>  hi, i've installed wordpress but noone out of my box can see my blog, can someone help me ?
[08:32] <Slarti2> debian package on the download page
[08:33] <Stormx2> alekz: Have you set up a webserver/
[08:33] <alekz> Stormx2, yes, i can i see in http://localhost/wordpress
[08:33] <Stormx2> alekz: Right. And when someone goes to http://yourip/wordpress - what happens?
[08:33] <EmergeTW> no matter how I install the ati binary drivers when I run fglrxinfo it still says I am using the Mesa drivers, any ideas? I do I manualy have to change it in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[08:33] <Neurosis> For some reason with the flash plugin on some sites on myspace and other sites it restarts my pc.  Whats going on?
[08:34] <alekz> Stormx2, The page cannot be displayed
[08:34] <AudioMove> everytime i issue the command "sudo unzip file.zip /path/" i get "caution: filename not matched: /path". Whats causing this or am i doing something wrong?
[08:34] <Stormx2> Neurosis: o_O check the wiki for installing flash
[08:34] <labandus> hi
[08:34] <Neurosis> ok
[08:34] <Stormx2> alekz: Have you forwarded ports?
[08:34] <labandus> can i get some   help ??
[08:34] <Stormx2> alekz: And firewalled
[08:34] <nadjyla> Neurosis, the flash plugin works well with firefox  beta 2. it s doesnt work well with firefox 1.07
[08:34] <alekz> Stormx2, dont think so
[08:34] <Stormx2> labandus: OK, whats the prob?
[08:34] <point> question: how 'secure' would this make me.... echo 'ALL: ALL' >> /etc/hosts.deny
[08:34] <point> is it effective?
[08:34] <Stormx2> alekz: Have a look at portforward.com. You need to forward port 80 to your local machine
[08:35] <labandus> Stormx2,  i wanna 'umount' a partition from a device
[08:35] <Krul> hello, i got a hp netserver LH whit a trident TVGA9000I-3 chip, if I startx I got a error "no screens found" I have tried oder drivers but no result.. help please
[08:35] <Stormx2> labandus: ok :) umount /path/to/mounted/folder
[08:35] <labandus> Stormx2, but the directory is busy
[08:35] <Geuis> how can I reboot from shell?
[08:35] <redlounge> hello. is there a way to extraxt or mount a .cue/.bin file (cd image)?
[08:35] <Slarti2> geuis : shutdown -r now
[08:35] <saniX> Gerriall;reboot
[08:35] <LoppApan> Geuis: shutdown -r now or reboot
[08:36] <Krul> Geuis: su reboot
[08:36] <Stormx2> labandus: Check that a program isn't using that directory. Music players, naulilus, etc
[08:36] <soundray> labandus: ... forgotten shells, too
[08:36] <alekz> Stormx2, let me check thanks
[08:36] <labandus> Stormx2, how ???
[08:36] <labandus> Stormx2, what concretly ??
[08:36] <Geuis> it says Im not root
[08:36] <LoppApan> Geuis: sudo reboot
[08:37] <Stormx2> labandus: Well, its not a command. Just check the applications in the taskbar
[08:37] <Geuis> gotcha
[08:37] <Geuis> Im brand new at this.
[08:37] <labandus> Stormx2,  yes and now?
[08:37] <Stormx2> Geuis: Me too ;-) 2 weeks in i've already modified the kernal etc
[08:37] <Stormx2> labandus: Try umounting again
[08:37] <Geuis> I finally got it to install without errors
[08:38] <eedge> arg, the svideo cable going to my tv keeps freaking out.
[08:38] <eedge> probably because i made it myself :P
[08:38] <eedge> lol
[08:38] <Stormx2> eek
[08:38] <Stormx2> ^,^
[08:38] <Krul> Stormx2: i got a hp netserver LH whit a trident TVGA9000I-3 chip, if I startx I got a error "no screens found" I have tried oder drivers but no result.. help please
[08:38] <Geuis> but now when I boot it hangs at 'checking battery state'
[08:38] <Geuis> its using the ati driver
[08:38] <labandus> Stormx2, i 'm working  on Ubuntu System
[08:38] <Stormx2> labandus.... yeaaah?
[08:38] <labandus> Stormx2, yes
[08:39] <labandus> Stormx2, i can't see all the Prozess or the applications.
[08:39] <Geuis> is there a generic driver I can change it to? or what else can I do to track down this problem?
[08:39] <foxgamer> Hi all. I'm having a few problems, but the forums have just gone down! Can anyone help with graphics cards?
[08:39] <moccah> foxgamer, what kind of card you got?
[08:40] <CarlF1> gaim - how do I make a 2nd window?  so I can have server messages in one and humans in the other?
[08:40] <odie5533> foxgamer, you really ought tell us the problem...
[08:40] <Stormx2> labandus: Bottom. You get no bar showing applications? To show processes, have a look at Applications > System Tools > System monitor
[08:40] <Stormx2> foxgamer: What card, what problem
[08:40] <foxgamer> thanks. I have an nvidia card and the gl screensavers were running a bit slow, so I followed the instructions, now I cant run the gl screensavers
[08:41] <labandus> Stormx2, i 've got it ...
[08:41] <odie5533> foxgamer: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings
[08:41] <Stormx2> labandus: Ya should be able to think what processes could be using this mounted partition/device
[08:41] <moccah> foxgamer, what does the output of fglrxinfo says?
[08:41] <odie5533> labandus, most common are the terminal or nautilus
[08:41] <Geuis> Im using an ATI radeon x600
[08:41] <Stormx2> foxgamer: Also check the wiki on nvidia
[08:41] <labandus> maybe the Nautilus
[08:42] <soundray> labandus: if all else fails, reboot.
[08:42] <labandus> Stormx2,  maybe the Nautilus
[08:42] <LoppApan> labandus: sudo fuser -va /path/to/troubled/directory   should give some information
[08:42] <Stormx2> labandus: If it is browsing in that folder, close it
[08:42] <labandus> Stormx2, it's not browsing anything
[08:42] <Stormx2> I still have 20 pages of cwk to do :-\
[08:43] <Stormx2> labandus: It is if it's open...
[08:43] <MiHu> Hi there. Is there a network install cd of ubuntu? I only found the full 600mb iso image...
[08:43] <Stormx2> MiHu: Check ubuntuforums.org, theres probably a how-to
[08:43] <GNeRaL> hi
[08:43] <foxgamer> odie5533: I have installed those.
[08:44] <eedge> waa waaa waaaaaaaa?
[08:44] <odie5533> foxgamer, then type nvidia-glx-enable
[08:44] <foxgamer> moccah: er, nothing. says it doesn't exist. Do I need to install.
[08:44] <eedge> dist-upgrade finished, should I restard?
[08:44] <eedge> restart even, lol
[08:44] <labandus> Stormx2, there 's no change
[08:44] <walding> Hi all.  n00b Q:  anyone managed to install Firefox 1.5 RC1 on Ubuntu?  All I can download is the tarball; no idea what to do with it!
[08:44] <Stormx2> labandus: sudo fuser -va /path/to/troubled/directory
[08:45] <odie5533> foxgamer, after that command you need to restart x server. hit ctrl alt backspace. It should restart it. If it doesnt, login to the terminal and type 'startx'
[08:45] <foxgamer> odie5533: Says command not found.?
[08:45] <pland> hello all
[08:45] <Stormx2> hey
[08:45] <GNeRaL> highvoltage, when i type wine, i receiving this error, who helpful man can help to me? http://pastebin.com/415130
[08:45] <BlueEagle> walding: If you don't know how to use a release candidate (RC) you probably should not be using it. This is development software.
[08:45] <odie5533> foxgamer, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:45] <GNeRaL> pardon
[08:45] <pland> could someone give me a good sources.list line for debian testing packages? I need ruby 1.9
[08:45] <GNeRaL> HiddenFly, when i type wine, i receiving this error, who helpful man can help to me? http://pastebin.com/415130
[08:45] <walding> I have it on my Windoze boot; I'm just fairly new to Linux
[08:45] <pland> everything I try gives me 'couldn't stat packages'
[08:45] <NoUse> pland don't mix debian and ubuntu pacakges
[08:45] <Stormx2> GNeRaL: Looks like you havn't configured wine
[08:46] <pland> NoUse: can't find ubuntu package for ruby 1.9 and I'm in a hurry :-(
[08:46] <Stormx2> GNeRaL: there is a script to do it, let me check it's name
[08:46] <amb> Hi - I'm trying to rebuild the grub installation on my harddisk. I have rebooted with "rescue", as described, and successfully mounted the root partition ...
[08:46] <amb> ... but grub-install fails because it can't find a device node for /dev/sda
[08:46] <Stormx2> amb: grub-install /dev/hda or /dev/hda1
[08:46] <GNeRaL> Stormx2, i listening you
[08:46] <dalyaf> nivek5695
[08:46] <amb> SATA
[08:46] <labandus> Stormx2, yes..i 've done
[08:47] <labandus> Stormx2, yes..i 've done it
[08:47] <EmergeTW> does Ubuntu have anything similar to opengl-update ?
[08:47] <foxgamer> odie5533: That one worked. :) So I need to restart with ctrl alt bckspce?
[08:47] <NoUse> pland if you mix debian and ubuntu packages you will most likey break your machine
[08:47] <amb> Stormx2 - should it still be /hda ? I thought that was IDE. Disk is /dev/sda everwhere
[08:47] <odie5533> foxgamer, yes, then login as normal if it doesnt automatically work and type 'startx'. If Gnome and X automatically come back, you're done.
[08:47] <labandus> Stormx2, but it's only dsplay the path in trouble
[08:47] <Stormx2> GNeRaL: Its called sidenet --> http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/
[08:47] <pland> NoUse: right now all I need is that one package...unless someone can tell me that there is an ubuntu ruby 1.9 package, I'll have to grab from debian
[08:47] <HiddenFly> GNeRaL: watch... your... hilights...
[08:47] <pland> or compile ruby
[08:47] <Stormx2> amb: Well, it depends on what disk you are using
[08:47] <labandus> Stormx2, ??
[08:48] <foxgamer> thanks odie5533. See you in a bit :)
[08:48] <labandus> Stormx2, what can i do ??
[08:48] <amb> Stormx2. The disk is /dev/sda (normally). The root partition is /dev/sda1.
[08:48] <Stormx2> labandus: Reboot
[08:48] <amb> So I do grub-install /dev/sda yes?
[08:48] <labandus> Stormx2, sure
[08:48] <labandus> Stormx2, sure ???
[08:48] <amb> But it fails because it can't find the device. Do I need to mknod it?
[08:48] <michael__> I cannot get usplash running for a custom kernel!!!!
[08:48] <Stormx2> amb: Do you want grub in the MBR of that disk or the boot sector of the first partition in that disk?
[08:48] <Amaranth> michael__: heh, it's a bit involved, i think
[08:49] <NoUse> pland ruby 1.9 isn't in debian testing
[08:49] <amb> Stormx2: where it was before, which was the Breezydefault
[08:49] <amb> Stormx2 - I'm not sure which that was
[08:49] <NoUse> pland testing has 1.8.2
[08:49] <Stormx2> labandus: Well, its a last resort, but yes, it can't fail :-|
[08:49] <pland> NoUse: actually I mean debian unstable
[08:49] <michael__> Amaranth, involved sound intersting...
[08:49] <michael__> :-)
[08:49] <Stormx2> amb: I have no idea either, let me check the wiki
[08:49] <pland> NoUse: but there isn't a ruby 1.9 in ubuntu, right?
[08:49] <NoUse> pland unstable is also 1.8.2
[08:50] <oidia> anyone know a program to test your connection speed???
[08:50] <NoUse> pland you'll have to compile from source
[08:50] <Amaranth> michael__: I have no idea what the steps are but it has something to do with your initramfs
[08:50] <pland> NoUse: I can see a 1.9 package in unstable
[08:50] <cevizoglu> how do I back up my email settings for evolution?  I tried making a tarball of .evolution, but it lost my rules and different mailbox accounts
[08:50] <pland> NoUse: looking at it
[08:50] <NoUse> pland http://packages.debian.org/unstable/interpreters/ruby
[08:50] <michael__> Amaranth, or initrd? Have I to do something special with it?
[08:50] <Stormx2> amb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub
[08:51] <pland> NoUse: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/ruby1.9
[08:51] <Amaranth> michael__: This is all way over my head but I think initrd isn't used anymore.
[08:51] <soundray> cevizoglu, Evolution saves stuff in ~/.gconf/apps/evolution/ , too
[08:51] <Stormx2> *sigh* I've only had ubuntu on this box for a week or just over
[08:52] <NoUse> pland so download the deb and install it, see if it works
[08:52] <pland> NoUse: huh yup ok
[08:52] <amb> Stormx2 - yes I read that. But it says grub-install /dev/hda. Whether I pass /dev/hda or /dev/sda it says "/dev/sda is not a block device". This is because it's trying to open /dev/sda which doesn't exist, as /dev is empty after booting using the rescue disk
[08:52] <amb> (well, /dev/null only)
[08:53] <NoUse> pland wait, ruby1.9 is in breezy
[08:53] <cevizoglu> soundray, ok, thx  :)
[08:53] <amb> Stormx2: That's why I want to know whether I should mknod it, and if so if anyone knows the values
[08:53] <NoUse> pland apt-get install ruby1.9
[08:53] <arcanistherogue> hey how do you mount a floppy disc that is from windows 95?
[08:53] <pland> NoUse: huh, oh ok! but need breezy lines in sources.list?
[08:53] <NoUse> !tell pland about repos
[08:53] <arcanistherogue> my friend gave me a floppy with some C++ code and i can't mount it
[08:54] <soundray> arcanistherogue, install mtools
[08:54] <arcanistherogue> k
[08:54] <Stormx2> amb: Well, I suggest you get a live cd, and reinstall grub from there. You're probably gonna end up wasting your time if you try in recovery mode
[08:54] <amb> Yep. Will try that
[08:54] <arcanistherogue> soundray, oh wow this seems to be just what im looking for, thanks.
[08:54] <soundray> arcanistherogue, otherwise try "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt"
[08:54] <ompaul> arcanistherogue,>> sudo  mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy <<
[08:54] <amb> thanks
[08:54] <ompaul> its gone away
[08:55] <oidia> is there a program for testing what your connection speed is?
[08:55] <DShepherd> oidia: I dont know a program but this links works for me http://www.internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/
[08:56] <oidia> ok... i will try it but web programs are not acuret?
[08:56] <NightLord> you were right
[08:56] <NightLord> XFCE rocks!
[08:57] <nadjyla> yes
[08:57] <hedonick> oidia: you're in Sweden, right?
[08:57] <oidia> yes...
[08:57] <hedonick> oidia: you can run the windows program tptest under wine... it gives a fairly good reading
[08:57] <nadjyla> NightLord, go http://www.xfce-look.org
[08:57] <hedonick> oidia: see tptest.se
[08:57] <oidia> ok, tnx
[08:58] <oidia> hedonick: swed?
[08:58] <mamoru> where can the header file <float.h> be ?
[08:58] <hedonick> oidia: I've done it myself and it gives a pretty good reading... it might vary a bit during peak hours though
[08:58] <hedonick> oidia: japp
[08:59] <soundray> mamoru, "locate float.h"
[08:59] <mamoru> soundray, thx!
[08:59] <stuart_> how can i get drivers for ipaq 3660 on ubuntu
[09:00] <soundray> stuart_, should be supplied out of the box.
[09:00] <_anna> Hallo, ich habe eine Frage, und zwar mchte ich DVB machen, ssa7146 brauche ich, wenn ich es recht sehe, brauche ich kernel 2.6.14
[09:00] <djm62> stuart_: what sort of drivers?
[09:00] <stuart_> i got it secondhand  no box
[09:01] <_anna> Gibt es .. vielleicht in dapper ... schon sowas von Ubuntu?
[09:01] <soundray> _anna: Join #ubuntu-de, da spricht man Deutsch.
[09:01] <_anna> oops, sorry
[09:01] <stuart_> activesysn
[09:01] <NightLord> and xfce runs ALOT better here than gnome/kde
[09:01] <djm62> stuart_: incidentally, "out of the box" means "it Just Works"...it's been a while since I've seen software in a box
[09:01] <_anna> I have a question, I want to do DVB with ssa7146 driver, but that apparently needs 2.6.14 kernel
[09:01] <DShepherd> NightLord: define better
[09:01] <_anna> Is that in Ubuntu somewhere already?
[09:01] <oidia> hedonick: got it working...
[09:02] <NightLord> well, faster for one thing
[09:02] <soundray> _anna: Your best bet is to check out a special distribution for DVB
[09:02] <stuart_> how do you make it work then i have not got a clue
[09:02] <soundray> _anna, I would recommend c't
[09:02] <synd_> I've seemed to have lost my XFCE4 panel.
[09:02] <synd_> Any way to restore it?
[09:02] <DShepherd> NightLord: ok, is that the only thing..Cause it supposed. It requires less resources
[09:02] <juliux> hi
[09:03] <oidia> hedonick: i just installed a d-link router and whant to see if i get the same as with my smothwall box...
[09:03] <juliux> are the ubunut and the edubuntu dvd images the some?
[09:03] <NightLord> plus its just better for me, more compact
[09:03] <djm62> stuart_: I'm taking a quick google
[09:03] <stuart_> ok
[09:03] <_anna> soundray: Well, I want to use Ubuntu for the task
[09:03] <synd_> I've seemed to have lost my XFCE4 panel. How do I restore it?
[09:03] <pirast> Are the Ubuntu "web" packages supported by the Ubuntu security team?
[09:03] <DShepherd> NightLord: kool, glad you are pleased. That;s what linux give you ....options :)
[09:03] <NightLord> yep
[09:03] <warreng> how would i, through an automated script, SFTP several file to a remote server? the "sftp" command requires typing in a password.... which doesn't work well for an automated script
[09:04] <soundray> _anna, okay, worth a try...
[09:04] <_anna> soundray: I also need mppe and rt2500 in that kernel and that's most easy from Ubuntu
[09:04] <Geuis> my new installation doesnt load kde
[09:04] <hedonick> oidia: great
[09:04] <Geuis> just goes to the prompt
[09:04] <djm62> stuart_: I'm unfamiliar with windows CE on that architecture, but "synCE" is the software you want, I think
[09:04] <NoUse> warreng look into ssh keys
[09:04] <wrongperson> i'm running ubuntu live and i've tried a thousand times mount/dev/hd... it never works
[09:04] <wrongperson> why?
[09:04] <djm62> wrongperson: what are you trying to achieve?
[09:04] <stuart_> ok thankyou
[09:05] <djm62> wrongperson: what is the high-level goal?
[09:05] <nadjyla> wrongperson, vreezy?
[09:05] <soundray> _anna, maybe you have to add extra repositories for DVB related packages, eg. those on e-tobi.net
[09:05] <abarbaccia> wrongperson, mount <device> <folder>   ---- and  usually u gotta be root to do it
[09:05] <nadjyla> breezy?
[09:05] <wrongperson> mount a partition
[09:05] <nadjyla> wrongperson, use disk-admin if you are on breezy
[09:05] <warreng> NoUse: problem with ssh keys is the remote host isn't under my control.... getting them to accept my ssh identity key would be tricky at best
[09:05] <wrongperson> yes i was in root
[09:05] <wrongperson> i'm using 5.04
[09:05] <zim> anyone know what was wrong with the ubuntu site yesterday and this morning
[09:05] <oidia> hedonick: i get almost the same as before, tacksmycket :P
[09:05] <f0xgamer> Hi. I was just in re: my nvidia card - installed and restarted X.
[09:06] <NightLord> thing is...file manager doesn't want to open in it
[09:06] <djm62> wrongperson: what partition type?
[09:06] <NoUse> warreng do you have an account on the remote host?
[09:07] <soundray> stuart_, still here?
[09:07] <_anna> soundray: http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-vdr-dvb/ is linked there
[09:07] <dotrig> ubuntu is the nicest dist ever :D.
[09:07] <joshuaxls> Does anyone know how I could change the default dhcp client from dhclient to dhcpcd?
[09:07] <theine> Is it possible to boot .iso images using syslinux/memdisk?
[09:08] <f0xgamer> odie5533: Hi. That's all done. Installed and restarted. Where to now?
[09:08] <odie5533> f0xgamer, done now
[09:08] <Krul> i got a hp netserver LH whit a trident TVGA9000I-3 chip, if I startx I got a error "no screens found" I have tried oder drivers but no result.
[09:08] <_anna> soundray: only that the mailing list is dead
[09:09] <wrongperson> well, i got one fat 32 nad one ntfs
[09:09] <f0xgamer> odie5533: oh dear. :/ They're still not working.
[09:09] <NightLord> why doesn't file manager open? :\
[09:09] <wrongperson> so, your guess..
[09:09] <wrongperson> it doesn't work at all
[09:09] <odie5533> foxgamer, did you see the nvidia logo when you started?
[09:09] <djm62> wrongperson: and are you specifying -t vfat or -t ntfs in the mount command?
[09:10] <foxgamer> odie5533: I don't think so. Nothing came up like that. Just got the xfce splashscreen.
[09:10] <djm62> wrongperson: an idea of what the error message is would be helpful
[09:10] <wrongperson> well, i did just say fat
[09:10] <wrongperson> or ntfs
[09:10] <wrongperson> not -t
[09:11] <soundray> _anna, I have a running DVB box with vdr and loads of standard Debian packages.
[09:11] <odie5533> foxgamer, I cant help you then. You should have gotten an nvidia logo
[09:11] <soundray> _anna: When I tried approaching it from the other end, I didn't manage to make it work.
[09:11] <foxgamer> hmm. I'll have a look through this wiki thing. Thanks for your help though.
[09:11] <djm62> wrongperson: eg; mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 /mnt/
[09:11] <wrongperson> the errror message is just tahat i need to secify the partition type
[09:11] <NightLord> weird
[09:11] <_anna> soundray: Well, I do too, with my own compiled stuff. But I have 2 issues with it, so I thought of using a stock kernel
[09:11] <NightLord> when i click file manager in the xfce menu, it wont' open
[09:11] <soundray> _anna: i.e. installing Ubuntu with a 2.6 kernel and then adding in vdr.
[09:12] <NightLord> what one does XFCE use?
[09:12] <wrongperson> or a bunch of "help" lines
[09:12] <joshuaxls> Does anyone know how I could change the default dhcp client from dhclient to dhcpcd?
[09:12] <wrongperson> djm62, thaks, man
[09:12] <NoUse> joshuaxls maybe if you install dhcpcd and remove dhclient
[09:12] <wrongperson> thank
[09:12] <wrongperson> i'll try it
[09:12] <synd_> What's the command to run the "Add programs" feature?
[09:12] <_anna> soundray: Well, i needed to mix in a patch from linux-dvb for 2.6.12 back then
[09:12] <foxgamer> NightLord: I had that problem when I first used xfce. I don't know which one it uses, but I changed it to nautilus anyhoo.
[09:13] <NightLord> ok, foxgamer, how?
[09:13] <_anna> soundray: Other than that, vdr more or less worked, but the image has quality problems and the remote will not generate events
[09:13] <cianci> hi, I am kind of new with ubuntu... i am trying to get my usb wireless network card to work. it's a Linksys WUSB54G. any ideas?
[09:13] <foxgamer> NightLord: Right click on the icon and select properties...
[09:13] <soundray> _anna, this is all highly experimental stuff.
[09:13] <joshuaxls> NoUse: Yeah, I thought about doing that, but I wanted to make sure that I wasn't going to screw everything up. I'll try it. Thanks.
[09:13] <_anna> soundray: Something about i2c that I don't understand well enough, the other, I suspect may be a driver issue
[09:14] <djm62> breezy regression here...my system no longer does suspend-to-ram: any suggestions on where to start troubleshooting?
[09:14] <foxgamer> NightLord: Change the command line to 'nautilus --no-desktop and click close. You must use the --no-desktop part otherwise it will mess up the desktop.
[09:14] <soundray> _anna: I tried six remote controls until I found one that I could get to work with vdr...
[09:14] <_anna> soundray: Well, in 2.6.13 it was merged... but I would like to have an Ubuntu kernel that supports it
[09:14] <Stormx2> woo i am learning bash scripting :D
[09:14] <grogoreo> hi
[09:14] <e-edge> heya
[09:14] <_anna> soundray: ouch... using lirc, right?
[09:15] <soundray> _anna, yes. And the only working one, well, stopped working yesterday.
[09:15] <foxgamer> Does anything on ubuntu.org work? lol. I can't get into the forums and now I can't get the wiki!
[09:15] <grogoreo> how do I turn on DMA for my DVD drive? It's on for my hard drive. I've ran hdparm (thats how I got the info!)
[09:15] <_anna> why would it, soundray ?
[09:15] <soundray> _anna, is 2.6.12-8 still the current Ubuntu kernel?
[09:15] <e-edge> how can I find out if my upgrades been successful?
[09:15] <muszek> hi, how do I unmount swap?
[09:15] <_anna> i have a -9
[09:16] <soundray> _anna, seems like it got dropped once too many times.
[09:16] <grogoreo> muszek, umount <swap partition>
[09:16] <paulproteus> muszek: swapoff -a
[09:16] <paulproteus> muszek: But, um, be careful.
[09:16] <caonex_> anybody here using the latest ati drivers with a zv6000?
[09:16] <grogoreo> muszek, ok ignore me! paulproteus knows more!
[09:16] <euphoria> i'm trying to install totem-xine on a default breezy installation, and it's saying it depends on libxinelc2 (>= 1.0.1) but it is not installable
[09:16] <eedge> how can I tell whether my dist-upgrade has been successful?
[09:17] <NightLord> please note: didn't work :(
[09:17] <paulproteus> eedge: Read the messages that were printed at the end.
[09:17] <paulproteus> Were there any errors?
[09:17] <euphoria> anyone know how i can get that lib, or another way to get totem-xine?
[09:17] <eedge> no.
[09:17] <droberts> does anyone know what the default root password is set to after install, or if the account is even enabled
[09:17] <eedge> and I've restarted.
[09:17] <eedge> everything working fine.
[09:17] <eedge> heh
[09:17] <paulproteus> eedge: Then it must have. ;)
[09:17] <muszek> paulproteus, grogoreo: thanks
[09:17] <eedge> lol
[09:17] <eedge> ok :P
[09:17] <oidia> anyway what hapends when swap partition is unmounted? and the ram is full?
[09:17] <NightLord> foxgamer: any ideas?
[09:17] <eedge> what now?
[09:17] <eedge> hehe
[09:18] <LoppApan> droberts: it's disabled, use sudo
[09:18] <grogoreo> do I turn on DAM automatically in fstab? I know I can do it with hdparm
[09:18] <djm62> oidia: nothing catastrophic
[09:18] <droberts> can you use sudo and then passwd to set the root password
[09:18] <LoppApan> droberts: or figure out howto enable it...
[09:18] <foxgamer> NightLord: If you are talking about the icon in the menu, goto settings, Xfce4-MenuEditor. You can make the changes in there - should show you what file manager is currently being used.
[09:18] <LoppApan> droberts: try :)
[09:18] <grogoreo> droberts, yes
[09:19] <djm62> oidia: try it, then run as many firefox instances, mp3 encoders, and games as you can manage
[09:19] <cianci> hi, ( i am new to ubuntu), i am trying to get my Linksys USB WUSB54G wireless network adapter to work. any idea? ( i also have a 2wire router)
[09:19] <NightLord> i did that
[09:19] <mindamp> how come the -p argument won't work on useradd?
[09:19] <droberts> cool got it thanks Lopp and grogoreo
[09:19] <mindamp> i need a one-liner to add a user and pass...
[09:19] <NightLord> and set it to what you said
[09:19] <oidia> djm62: :P il try that... someday...
[09:19] <mindamp> any suggestions?
[09:19] <oidia> djm62: probibly my ubunto will be as my windows always gets :P
[09:19] <Spudchat> hi everyone im having trouble sharing my internet connection..ive configured it to the point where the machines can ping one another and all the other machines on the network
[09:19] <NightLord> ok, i know what to do know...I think
[09:20] <foxgamer> NightLord: I don't know then. I have also created an icon on the taskbar because I'm always in the file manager. You could try that.
[09:20] <mirak> it would be fine to be able to limit the download speed of apt-get or synaptic
[09:20] <grogoreo> mindamp, I know everyone says google for it but... google for your wireles USB and put linux on the end
[09:20] <mindamp> uhm....
[09:20] <oidia> Spudchat: and what's suposed to share the connection?
[09:20] <Spudchat> however the machine im sharing the connection with isnt able to conenct to the interent...btw im using firestarter
[09:20] <mindamp> i actually need help with useradd
[09:20] <Jhair> w
[09:20] <mindamp> it won't accept the -p argument...
[09:20] <cianci> hi everyone. i am trying to get my Linksys USB WUSB54G wireless network adapter to work. any suggestions? i herd something about nswrapper or something like that?
[09:21] <foxgamer> Has the ubuntu wiki been moved, does anyone know?
[09:21] <DShepherd> foxgamer: shouldn't be
[09:21] <oidia> Spudchat: what is your problem?, where do you get stuck? what is not working?
[09:21] <calamari> hi
[09:21] <foxgamer> hmm. I'm trying to get to it from the ubuntu website, but I just keep getting message saying does not exist on server.
[09:22] <grogoreo> mindamp, for password. what command are you using
[09:22] <mindamp> useradd blah -p blah
[09:22] <mindamp> adds the user... doesn't set the pass
[09:22] <NightLord> hey, the button idea worked ^_^
[09:22] <NightLord> tah much
[09:22] <LoppApan> mindamp: ? useradd -p password username works fine here
[09:22] <mindamp> hmm let me check again
[09:22] <foxgamer> NightLord: No probs. It's much more helpful for me being easily accessible anyhoo :)
[09:23] <djm62> cianci: have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28hardware%29 ?
[09:23] <mindamp> doesn't work...
[09:23] <LoppApan> mindamp: why not let useradd prompt for password? u writing a script?
[09:23] <mindamp> creates the user...
[09:23] <NightLord> I really like XFCE, I think i'll stick with it now
[09:23] <calamari> I'm trying to use dpkg to install a package, but I get the error "subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1".  This is in the pre-install script.  Is there a way I can find out what went wrong in the script, or extract the script somehow to look at it?
[09:23] <mindamp> LoppApan.. yes trying to add users from php form...
[09:23] <paulproteus> adduser > useradd, on Ubuntu/Debian
[09:23] <Spudchat> the computer that connection is being shared with can ping all the other clients on the network but cant access the internet
[09:23] <paulproteus> calamari: Look at the previous lines to that.
[09:23] <LoppApan> mindamp: oh..I always fix that with an expect script
[09:23] <mindamp> however the useradd -p blah blah doesn't actually set the pass to blah... it may create the user...
[09:23] <mindamp> but no pass
[09:23] <Geuis> if a window locks up, how can I force it to close?
[09:23] <foxgamer> NightLord: Well if you come up with anything useful, let me know. I don't mind xfce, but I still have to revert back to gnome for some things.
[09:24] <djm62> Geuis: xkill :)
[09:24] <oidia> Spudchat: you have 2 nicks in the computes that is to share the connection?
[09:24] <LoppApan> mindamp: other than that I wouldn't know, really easy with expect though
[09:24] <mindamp> LoppApan... can i do something like passwd username | pass1; pass2
[09:24] <mindamp> ...
[09:24] <grogoreo> mindamp, I havent read it all but have a look at this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/41/2005/03/1/293056. BTW how are you running the UNIX script form PHP?
[09:24] <djm62> Geuis: then click on it
[09:24] <NightLord> well, i set it to run the gnome services on bootup, that should help for me
[09:24] <calamari> paulproteus: it says: "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/.. (etc).deb (-unpack):
[09:24] <mindamp> grogoreo ... system()
[09:24] <NightLord> see, tux magazine gave me the idea to use it
[09:24] <paulproteus> calamari: Can you paste (to paste.ubuntulinux.nl) the whole terminal conversation?
[09:24] <grogoreo> mindamp, oh right, thanks! I'll have a look at that
[09:24] <Spudchat> oidia, yes there are two nics
[09:24] <eedge> once I've run apt-get install xmms, what do I need to run to get mp3 playback?
[09:25] <djm62> Geuis: I keep XKill handy for recalcitrant multimedia progs, shortcut on the toolbar
[09:25] <oidia> and your os is ubuntu right?
[09:25] <NightLord> i know!
[09:25] <paulproteus> eedge: XMMS sucks.
[09:25] <mindamp> LoppApan... expect is a bash call?
[09:25] <Spudchat> yes
[09:25] <paulproteus> eedge: Use Beep Media Player instead.
[09:25] <cianci> how can I use Ndiswrapper for getting my linksys wusb54g wireless network adapter to work?
[09:25] <NightLord> do apt-cache search gstreamer
[09:25] <calamari> paulproteus: sure, but it's a little nonstandard, I think I'm missing a command that the pre-install script is trying to use
[09:25] <LoppApan> mindamp: expect is programming language for automation process
[09:25] <paulproteus> calamari: Let's see it!
[09:25] <foxgamer> NightLord: Be careful though. I've found that gnome can try and sneak through sometimes. We should stick together! hehe
[09:25] <NightLord> Paulproteus: Beeps ok, but a bit...basic for me :\
[09:25] <stoeptegel> the apt-get install w32codecs is dead, where should i report this?
[09:25] <mindamp> hmmm
[09:25] <LoppApan> mindamp: really really easy
[09:25] <NightLord> indeed
[09:25] <paulproteus> NightLord: bmp > xmms
[09:25] <paulproteus> NightLord: amarok > bmp :)
[09:25] <eedge> I like cmms :)
[09:25] <mindamp> LoppApan.. couldn't i run a pipe to passwd?
[09:25] <oidia> spudchat: im not shure any more but someone else shoukd know this..
[09:25] <eedge> xmms even
[09:26] <eedge> lol
[09:26] <grogoreo> mindamp, are you suree you can run the command from the PHP script. Root is needed
[09:26] <LoppApan> mindamp: but using from php I wouldn't know really. I guess U would have other problems as well
[09:26] <bur[n] er> anyone know if there's an "eyedropper" tool that can get the hex & RGB color of anything on your screen??
[09:26] <NightLord> ok
[09:26] <foxgamer> I like anything that works :)
[09:26] <LoppApan> grogoreo: exactly
[09:26] <NightLord> what about mplayer ;)
[09:26] <worsen> anyone german in here?
[09:26] <cianci> hi, i am trying to get my Linksys USB WUSB54G wireless network adapter to work. any suggestions? i herd something about ndiswrapper
[09:26] <djm62> cianci: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto ?
[09:26] <bur[n] er> amarok > mplayer ;)
[09:26] <NightLord> I'm dutch
[09:26] <grogoreo> mindamp, you could delve into the webmin source!
[09:26] <foxgamer> NightLord: mplayer is good for some mpeg and some wmv's
[09:26] <Geuis> how do I get/use xkill?
[09:26] <NightLord> like funnelgirl ugh
[09:26] <bur[n] er> cianci: isn't that a prism chipset?
[09:26] <Geuis> I've now been a linux user for all of about 20 minutes :)
[09:27] <eedge> still, I want to install a few media players and try them out
[09:27] <cianci> thank you djm62
[09:27] <bur[n] er> Geuis: run it... then click the window you wanna kill
[09:27] <eedge> considering I've hardly used any of them before.
[09:27] <_jason> Geuis:  welcome
[09:27] <eedge> so, I'm starting with xmms :)
[09:27] <Geuis> thanks. how do I run it??
[09:27] <bur[n] er> Geuis: alt+f2, type "xkill"
[09:27] <eedge> how do I get it to play back wma's and mp3's?
[09:27] <K_Dallas> Q: I was just told teTeX3 i available on dapper which i didnt know what it was ;) is it the experimental/testing branch of ubuntu? and what line should i include in my sources.list to get access to that? thanks
[09:27] <djm62> Geuis: I think it's in the default install...
[09:27] <paulproteus> eedge: No!  Start with Beep Media Player!
[09:27] <eedge> I dont wanna :P
[09:27] <eedge> ll
[09:27] <djm62> Geuis: and, indeed, welcome :)
[09:27] <eedge> lol even
[09:27] <bur[n] er> !tell eedge about xmms
[09:28] <calamari> paulproteus: sorry for the dealy.. trying to figure out how to auto select yes so I can use >
[09:28] <NightLord> what package do i use to install common ttf fonts?
[09:28] <paulproteus> NightLord: msttcorefonts
[09:28] <bur[n] er> NightLord: msttcorefonts
[09:28] <Geuis> I clicked on the task bar
[09:28] <Geuis> and its gone
[09:28] <paulproteus> bur[n] er: Man, you're slow. ;)
[09:28] <calamari> aha -y :)
[09:28] <bur[n] er> Geuis: good work ;)
[09:28] <Geuis> I dont think I was supposed to do that :/
[09:28] <worsen> i ned your help ! a fried of mine can't connect 2 the internet. He just installed ubuntu and insered all dats @sudo pppoeconf
[09:28] <bur[n] er> paulproteus: it's just lag, i was faster ;)
[09:28] <bur[n] er> heh
[09:28] <paulproteus> eedge: To make XMMS play MP3s, you don't have to install anything.  Just tell it to use esound as the output device.
[09:28] <DShepherd> Geuis: lol
[09:28] <cianci> will ubuntu work if your router has a wireless key?
[09:28] <NightLord> thanks to you both
[09:28] <farruinn> Geuis: it's gone?
[09:28] <cianci> with internet
[09:28] <bur[n] er> cianci: yes
[09:28] <djm62> Geuis: :) xkill is the gui equivalent of a single-shot gun
[09:28] <cianci> ok
[09:28] <foxgamer> Geuis: You're taskbar is gone? Try running xfce4-taskbar to load it back up.
[09:29] <Geuis> clicked on the tab for the frozen window
[09:29] <bur[n] er> foxgamer: u sure Geuis is using xfce?
[09:29] <djm62> Geuis: you want to be clicking the window itself
[09:29] <bur[n] er> lol
[09:29] <bur[n] er> Geuis: you're an Xfce user or gnome user?
[09:29] <Geuis> is there something a bit milder than xkill, simliar to the task manager in windows?
[09:29] <Geuis> kde
[09:29] <Geuis> kubuntu
[09:29] <paulproteus> Geuis: There is a task manager.
[09:29] <foxgamer> bur[n] er: hehe. oops! I was getting a bit confused there.
[09:30] <bur[n] er> Geuis: ksysguard  <--someone KDE correct me if i'm wrong
[09:30] <djm62> Geuis: I'm pretty sure there is...what is it called in kde, anyone?
[09:30] <DShepherd> Geuis: try gnome-system-monitor
[09:30] <NightLord> btw, I wanna get doom 3 for linux, but want to know, how does it install?
[09:30] <_jason> Geuis:  be sure to visit #kubuntu too if you ever need some kde specific help
[09:30] <bur[n] er> DShepherd: he's a KDE user :P
[09:30] <dokkeri> I think there the kde guard thing... Not sure of it's name
[09:30] <DShepherd> oh bur[n] er
[09:30] <_andres> is anyone using ltsp with the tree generated by ltsp_build_client ?
[09:30] <eedge> I'm an idiot.
[09:30] <eedge> xmms is working :)
[09:30] <eedge> lol
[09:30] <eedge> thanks
[09:30] <bur[n] er> Geuis: yeah, it's 'ksysguard'
[09:30] <bur[n] er> Geuis: to get your panel back... do alt+f2 "kicker"
[09:30] <NightLord> eedge: not idiot
[09:30] <Geuis> yeah, loaded that back
[09:31] <DShepherd> Geuis: top is good too :)
[09:31] <NightLord> we all were beginners
[09:31] <eedge> apt-get bmp?
[09:31] <Geuis> heheh
[09:31] <bur[n] er> htop > top
[09:31] <Geuis> that worked
[09:31] <bur[n] er> htop lets you kill stuff even where top just displays
[09:31] <Geuis> ok, so I want to download and install firefox as my first program
[09:31] <farruinn> eedge: if you like xmms you'll love beep
[09:31] <foxgamer> NightLord: I've only been using linux for about two months myself, so I know where you're coming from.
[09:31] <bur[n] er> eedge: beep-media-player is the package name
[09:31] <K_Dallas> Q2: there is network card integrated on the mb which worked under ubntu and windows though my router didnt have the led on! i added a pci net card which is working under windows and in ubuntu in the network setting it shows all right and active but not working.
[09:31] <NightLord> well thats nice, when you access a windows network in XFCE it prints a little sad face :P
[09:31] <DShepherd> bur[n] er: I dont have that command htop. How do i get it
[09:31] <Geuis> is it as simple as downloading the binary from mozilla and double-click?
[09:31] <djm62> Geuis: don't you have firefox? sudo aptitude install firefox
[09:31] <bur[n] er> DShepherd: apt-get install htop :P
[09:31] <MaTaKs> who plays xmame here?
[09:31] <calamari> paulproteus: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3989
[09:31] <NightLord> i've been using it for about 6 months now, i'm just new to xfce
[09:32] <djm62> Geuis: it's simpler than that ;)
[09:32] <bur[n] er> Geuis: install via apt
[09:32] <DShepherd> bur[n] er: lol @ DShepherd/...duh
[09:32] <cyphase> hey everyone
[09:32] <bur[n] er> hi cyphase
[09:32] <foxgamer> xfce I've been using for about a month.
[09:32] <droppie30> hello
[09:32] <bur[n] er> xfce will be great when thunar is released with desktop support :)
[09:32] <droppie30> i got a problem with totem
[09:33] <paulproteus> calamari: Why on *earth* are you installng libc6?
[09:33] <djm62> or kynaptic(?) to find it
[09:33] <paulproteus> That's bizarre.
[09:33] <droppie30> Video codec 'MS WMV 9 (win32)' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[09:33] <bur[n] er> !tell droppie30 about Restricted
[09:33] <calamari> paulproteus: I knew you were going to ask that :)
[09:33] <bur[n] er> !tell droppie30 about w32codecs
[09:33] <bur[n] er> droppie30: check yer msgs
[09:33] <paulproteus> calamari: I knew you were going to know I was going to ask. :)
[09:33] <droppie30> i cant find w32codes
[09:33] <bur[n] er> droppie30: look in yer msgs :P
[09:33] <DShepherd> droppie30: you usinf breezy?
[09:33] <paulproteus> calamari: It printed this message:
[09:33] <ompaul> droppie30, see the message from ubotu
[09:33] <NightLord> ugh, now it won't let me mount a network drive. I need my network drive access
[09:33] <eedge> wow, all 6700 songs in xmms :p
[09:33] <DShepherd> using*
[09:33] <paulproteus> " dpkgnotrecordedasinstalled,cannotcheckforepochsupport!"
[09:33] <eedge> apt-getting beep-media-player now
[09:34] <calamari> paulproteus: I'm building a system from scratch for my laptop (UMSDOS kernel).  I gutted out an old distro, put on a new kernel, got networking going and am not trying to go legit with apt-get
[09:34] <droppie30> i got breezy btw
[09:34] <bur[n] er> DShepherd: regardless... ubotu tells links for w32codecs for both breezy and hoary
[09:34] <calamari> not -> now
[09:34] <Mestules> how i can enter in options of gnome? :)
[09:34] <NightLord> btw, I installed w32 codecs, but rhythmbox won't open wmas :(
[09:34] <calamari> paulproteus: so basically I'm trying to get a real libc6 to be able to install other packages
[09:34] <djm62> Mestules: System->Preferences ?
[09:34] <paulproteus> calamari: http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=945 , fwiw
[09:35] <paulproteus> calamari: You should use dpkg --force to get libc6 and dpkg installed.
[09:35] <paulproteus> *Or*, you should read that URL.
[09:35] <paulproteus> Maybe I should make that *and*. :)
[09:35] <Geuis> ok so to install firefox(or any program) I use apt-get
[09:35] <Geuis> can someone expand on that?
[09:35] <DShepherd> droppie30: go to System-Help-Ubuntu starter-guide-applications-music and movies
[09:35] <Geuis> how do I direct it to the application I want?
[09:35] <bur[n] er> !tell Geuis about synaptic
[09:35] <bur[n] er> Geuis: check yer msgs
[09:35] <djm62> Geuis: apt automatically downloads and installs programs, and any other programs they need to run properly
[09:35] <Geuis> gotcha thanks
[09:36] <bur[n] er> synaptic is hte GUI frontend to apt
[09:36] <djm62> Geuis: I think KDE has a graphical front-end for apt called kynaptic, but I'm not sure
[09:36] <bur[n] er> Geuis: you're a KDE user right?   use adept :)
[09:36] <NightLord> 2 questions:
[09:36] <bur[n] er> adept > kynaptic
[09:36] <calamari> paulproteus: thanks :)
[09:36] <NightLord> 1: Why won't xfce let me access/mount my network drives
[09:36] <djm62> Geuis: I defer to bur[n] er ;) ...
[09:36] <NightLord> 2: Why won;t xvidtune run!
[09:37] <DShepherd> NightLord: lol
[09:37] <paulproteus> calamari: "Thank me when it works.".
[09:37] <dell500> how do you get totem to read all movie files?
[09:37] <bur[n] er> Geuis: as a side note... check out #kubuntu ;)
[09:37] <pinucset> somebody knows wich new features will has the next ubuntu?
[09:37] <bur[n] er> !tell dell500 about restricted
[09:37] <NightLord> it says "please install this program before running" but it is installed!
[09:37] <DShepherd> dell500: go to System-Help-Ubuntu starter-guide-applications-music and movies
[09:37] <bur[n] er> !tell dell500 about w32codecs
[09:37] <bur[n] er> dell500: check yer messsages
[09:37] <NightLord> !tell nightlord about getting xvidtune to work
[09:38] <dell500> got em
[09:38] <bur[n] er> NightLord: how are you trying to "mount/access" stuff from Xfce?
[09:38] <NightLord> :P
[09:38] <NightLord> the network browser it has
[09:38] <djm62> Geuis: if you're not sure what a package is called, you can search (on the command line, apt-cache search keyword, as usual, you can pick your own fancier interface)
[09:38] <bur[n] er> NightLord: xffm?
[09:38] <bur[n] er> NightLord: that's crap ;)  just mount it in a term
[09:38] <NightLord> yeah
[09:39] <NightLord> that all well and good just saying it, but how :P
[09:39] <Mestules> how i can change language of nautilus?
[09:39] <djm62> Geuis: if you don't know what you want, you can still search (apt-cache search astronomy, apt-cache search nutrition)
[09:39] <bur[n] er> NightLord: or run "gnome-volume-manager" from withing Xfce to get automagic mounting :)
[09:39] <calamari> paulproteus: --force-all wasn't enough.. you sure there isn't a way to see what the pre-install script contains?
[09:39] <K_Dallas> Q: what is the apt-get flag to get a package from dapper and leave everything else breezy? (apt-get -t dapper tetex3.bin ?)
[09:39] <runedude_> hey all
[09:39] <runedude_> i got all my wireless stuff setup.. now im having a prob w/ sound
[09:39] <NightLord> !tell nightlord about msttcorefonts
[09:39] <bur[n] er> !tell NightLord about mount
[09:40] <bur[n] er> NightLord: if you're telling ubotu to explain something to yourself.. use /msg ubotu
[09:40] <paulproteus> calamari: There is.
[09:40] <paulproteus> calamari: But you should just debootstrap.
[09:40] <DShepherd> Mestules: what do you mean? you what to change the language system wide?
[09:40] <NightLord> I'm not, i didn't expect it  to work
[09:40] <runedude_> my system i got from dell comes with integrated sound.. so i really am not sure what to do to get my sound working, since i dont know the driver to use.
[09:41] <NightLord> ok, now, what about my xvidtune problem
[09:41] <bur[n] er> runedude_: how are you testing it?
[09:41] <calamari> if there's a way then I should be able to find it.. I just need to search for it.. thanks :)
[09:41] <bur[n] er> wtf is xvidtune?
[09:41] <runedude_> bur[n] er, by running xmms
[09:41] <bur[n] er> runedude_: try rhythmbox?
[09:42] <NightLord> and burner, i did enable it and it doesn't work
[09:42] <runedude_> bur[n] er, hmm.. ok
[09:42] <bur[n] er> !tell runedude_ about xmms
[09:42] <bur[n] er> runedude_: or set the output plugin of xmms to esound
[09:42] <Mestules> DShepherd,  i had my language but after one day language change and i cannot use my language in nautilus and gnome :(
[09:42] <runedude_> esound huh?
[09:42] <runedude_> ok
[09:42] <DShepherd> Mestules: you can go to  System-> Administration-> Languauge selector
[09:42] <runedude_> why esound anyways?
[09:42] <bur[n] er> runedude_: let me know if it works and I'll update the bot to say "Breezy" instead of hoary ;)
[09:42] <runedude_> i dont use breezy
[09:42] <bur[n] er> runedude_: you're using Hoary?
[09:43] <runedude_> yes
[09:43] <bur[n] er> runedude_: and gnome?
[09:43] <runedude_> kde
[09:43] <bur[n] er> aww... maybe not esound from KDE
[09:43] <runedude_> gnome was giving me tons of issues.
[09:43] <allee> Hi,  my AVM B1 PCMCIA isdn card stopped working after hoary->breezy update (b1pcmcia: unable to get IRQ 11).
[09:43] <Mestules> DShepherd,  yes but this metod dont useful for me, i test before but dont change :(
[09:43] <allee>  In hoary IRQ 3 was used.
[09:43] <bur[n] er> runedude_: why not use amarok from kde :)
[09:43] <bur[n] er> amarok > all media players
[09:43] <runedude_> amarok?
[09:43] <bur[n] er> runedude_: apt-get install it and never look back ;)
[09:43] <allee> how do I teach cardmgr to try irq 3 (again)??
[09:43] <NightLord> please note, the ubuntu wiki says how to mount a normal drive, not a network drive
[09:43] <oxigen>  hoary->breezy update fcuked everything on my system... :/
[09:44] <runedude_> ok
[09:44] <emgee> How do I add swedish spellchecking to Evolution?
[09:44] <bur[n] er> oxigen: fix it ;)
[09:44] <DShepherd> Mestules:oh
[09:44] <daved-> is there any command on ubuntu like system-config-authconfig on redhat? i.e. i want to set the machine up to use ldap for user authentication
[09:44] <bur[n] er> speaking of evolution... anyone else use exchange with evolution?
[09:44] <NightLord> oxigen: be more specific
[09:44] <daved-> the ldap server already exists, i just want to make the ubuntu machine use it
[09:44] <oxigen> ?
[09:45] <paulproteus> oxigen: Did it complete?
[09:45] <paulproteus> oxigen: If so, do this:
[09:45] <Mestules> DShepherd,   i dont get change language  :(
[09:45] <paulproteus> sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[09:45] <moccah> where do i find the rc.local file?
[09:45] <DShepherd> Mestules: ok, srry I cant help you
[09:45] <NightLord> saying its fcuked up won't help us solve it
[09:45] <paulproteus> daved-: http://craige.mcwhirter.com.au/blog/archive/2005/01/17/making_a_debian_or_ubuntu_mach
[09:46] <Mestules> DShepherd,  oks no problem :) thx of all form
[09:46] <oxigen> paulproteus: I made backup with knoppix and made fresh breezy install
[09:46] <moccah> !locale
[09:46] <ubotu> moccah: Wish i knew
[09:46] <DShepherd> Mestules: np
[09:46] <daved-> paulproteus: thanks much
[09:46] <bluefrog-10> daved, u have to change by hand nsswitch.conf, pam_ldap.conf, libnss_ldap.conf, /etc/pam.d/common-*
[09:46] <moccah> !rc.local
[09:46] <ubotu> moccah: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:46] <zack> where is the system default locale stored?
[09:46] <NightLord> so how do i mount network drives
[09:46] <daved-> paulproteus: ack, you have to edit the pam files by hand? nasty
[09:46] <oxigen> but I think that is big problem if you have installed nvidia on  hoary
[09:47] <jonny_> hey
[09:47] <jonny_> im having a problem with breezy
[09:47] <paulproteus> daved-: We at acm.jhu.edu made a patch we just apply - See http://wiki.acm.jhu.edu/w/Central_authentication
[09:47] <oxigen> and custom kernel too :/
[09:47] <_jason> jonny_:  I think we need more info
[09:47] <runedude_> hmm
[09:47] <jonny_> gnome art quits after its downloaded everything!
[09:47] <runedude_> well,
[09:47] <allee> doko: any idea what changed so b1pcmcia tries to allocate IRQ 11 and failed instead of IRQ 3 as in hoary?
[09:47] <runedude_> amarok is nice looking, but it still wont work w/ my sound
[09:47] <Boobek> bye all
[09:47] <bur[n] er> runedude_: no?
[09:48] <runedude_> bur[n] er, nope
[09:48] <bur[n] er> u getting errors?
[09:48] <runedude_> yea
[09:48] <bur[n] er> runedude_: such as?
[09:48] <runedude_> no sound system.
[09:48] <zcat[1] > oxigen: about the only problem with the hoary-breezy upgrade I had was my old nvidia card; I had to apt-get unstall nivida-legacy from the console. Text mode!! omfg, the humanity!!
[09:48] <jonny_> anyone?
[09:48] <zcat[1] > other than that it pretty much went as expected
[09:48] <daved-> paulproteus: thanks
[09:48] <bur[n] er> runedude_: did you install "gstreamer0.8-mad" for playing mp3s?
[09:48] <w0rd54> nice
[09:49] <w0rd54> anyone wrote custom nvidia detection scripts?
[09:49] <runedude_> hmm the files im trying to play are oggs
[09:49] <runedude_> but
[09:49] <dokkeri> zcat[1] : The horror! How did you survive that?!
[09:49] <oxigen> zcat[1] : you were lucky, my console was frozen
[09:49] <w0rd54> I was thinking of knocking out a simple lspci/grep script
[09:49] <runedude_> i havent even gotten to the file playing yet
[09:49] <w0rd54> for the right nvidia driver
[09:49] <runedude_> it has errors on load
[09:49] <WebWiz>  /quit
[09:49] <PupenoL> Hello.
[09:49] <jonny_> heloooo?
[09:49] <bur[n] er> runedude_: should play .oggs fine, hrm... how about installing "amarok-xine" instead?
[09:49] <PupenoL> What do I need to install to get Python highlighting on Emacs ?
[09:49] <bur[n] er> runedude_: amarok uses gstreamer by default, but xine plays most everything
[09:49] <eedge> I like bmp :)
[09:50] <eedge> its a nice player
[09:50] <NightLord> so no one knows how?
[09:50] <runedude_> ok.
[09:50] <eedge> whats a good movie player?
[09:50] <bur[n] er> eedge: totem
[09:50] <dooglus> I'm getting an error when I run "sudo ethereal"...  It says "Could not set capabilities: Operation not permitted" and exits
[09:50] <jonny_> GRR!
[09:50] <zcat[1] > there's an autodetect script of sorts; xorg tells you in the error messages that you need 'nvidia legacy' drivers; it's just not very helpful about how to get them
[09:50] <Spudchat> i have firestarter running on this machine configured to share my wireless interent connection with the wired nic and the computer that im sharing the connection with is able to ping all local hosts but cannot access outside hosts
[09:50] <Spudchat> any ideas?
[09:50] <djm62>  eedge: ymmv, I like vlc (videolan)
[09:50] <eedge> apt-get install totem
[09:50] <eedge> ?
[09:50] <bur[n] er> eedge: should be there by default
[09:50] <jonny_> what about DVDs, I cant play them?
[09:50] <oxigen> totem sucks
[09:50] <DShepherd> I installed a new theme and now my theme dialog wont open
[09:50] <nadjyla> not on breezy oxigen
[09:50] <bur[n] er> oxigen: blasphemy... totem has a wonderful interface and plays most everything
[09:50] <jonny_> DShepherd: gnome art?
[09:51] <nadjyla> it sucked on hoary but not on breezy
[09:51] <runedude_> ah
[09:51] <runedude_> heres the magic thing
[09:51] <oxigen> yes on breezy nadjyla
[09:51] <DShepherd> jonny_: I was using that
[09:51] <bur[n] er> !tell jonny_ about dvd
[09:51] <eedge> installing ymmv
[09:51] <zcat[1] > I prefer mplayer; it has an even better inteface and plays everything
[09:51] <bur[n] er> jonny_: check yer msgs
[09:51] <oxigen> vlc works better than totem
[09:51] <runedude_> Error while initializing the sound driver: device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such file or directory)
[09:51] <eedge> how do I get the w32 codecs?
[09:51] <bur[n] er> !tell eedge about w32codecs
[09:51] <eedge> will divx and xvid be supportted?
[09:51] <djm62> I dunno, I've yet to see the killer video player for linux
[09:51] <DShepherd> jonny_:  now my theme manage wont open
[09:51] <jonny_> DSheoherd: it doesnt work for me either, it just quits!
[09:51] <bur[n] er> eedge: yes, check yer msgs
[09:51] <cafuego> !mplayer
[09:51] <bur[n] er> djm62: what's wrong with totem?
[09:51] <ubotu> it has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[09:51] <runedude_> mmm
[09:52] <runedude_> Error while initializing the sound driver: device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such file or directory)
[09:52] <runedude_> bur[n] er, the error ^
[09:52] <NightLord> no one at all?
[09:52] <DShepherd> jonny_: gnome-art opens though
[09:52] <bur[n] er> djm62: if it doesn't play your files... you don't have codecs
[09:52] <runedude_> it even said
[09:52] <djm62> bur[n] er: exactly what I've been wondering... it just doesn't play nicely, I can make it play files
[09:52] <eedge> wma's in bmp?
[09:52] <runedude_> "xine is unable to load any sound drivers"
[09:52] <jonny_> sooooooo...does this work "sudo apt-get install libdvd3"
[09:52] <bur[n] er> runedude_: aww... maybe your sound card isn't supported... or... your user isn't in the 'audio' group
[09:52] <runedude_> bur[n] er, nah, i ran it as root for a test
[09:52] <jonny_> DShpherd: try re-installing
[09:52] <DShepherd> jonny_: I tried restarting X but still..it just quits
[09:53] <djm62> bur[n] er: DVDs aren't working /well/ and just working does not make an app killer
[09:53] <DShepherd> jonny_: reinstalling what? gnome-arts?
[09:53] <runedude_> besides the fact my user IS in the audio group, for the record
[09:53] <bur[n] er> runedude_: from a term "lsmod |grep snd"
[09:53] <eedge> how do I use .deb files :S
[09:53] <bur[n] er> djm62: turn on DMA
[09:53] <jonny_> DShpherd: yes
[09:53] <runedude_> nothing, bur[n] er
[09:53] <dooglus> eedge: "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"
[09:53] <PupenoL> What do I need to install to get Python highlighting on Emacs ?
[09:53] <DShepherd> jonny_: did that work for you?
[09:53] <dooglus> PupenoL: python-mode.el
[09:53] <bur[n] er> runedude_: looks like your sound drivers arent going for some reason :\
[09:53] <bur[n] er> !tell runedude_ about sound
[09:53] <PupenoL> dooglus: thanks.
[09:53] <jonny_> DShepherd: no, but it did with gdesklets
[09:54] <bur[n] er> follow those links runedude_, i'm kinda tapped for ideas :\
[09:54] <dooglus> PupenoL: not sure if it's packaged, but you can find it on python.org
[09:54] <dooglus> PupenoL: scratch that.  it's packaged in "python-mode"
[09:54] <__slim__shady__> ola galera
[09:54] <bur[n] er> !tell djm62 about dma
[09:54] <jonny_> how can you install libdvdread3?
[09:54] <djm62> bur[n] er: I know about dma...
[09:54] <bur[n] er> djm62: and it's still sketchy for you?  mine play flawlessly
[09:54] <PupenoL> dooglus: it had been easier if "emacs" was part of its name. Thank you.
[09:55] <__slim__shady__> hi
[09:55] <dokkeri> !tell me about w32codecs
[09:55] <bur[n] er> jonny_: follow that link from ubotu i told you about
[09:55] <bur[n] er> dokkeri: msg ubotu ;)
[09:55] <__slim__shady__> I'm a problem in my Ubuntu 5.04?
[09:55] <djm62> bur[n] er: that's what I mean...I don't dispute that totem works for you, but it doesn't seem to be a universal experience, which means it isn't killer
[09:55] <dooglus> PupenoL: I used "apt-file search emacs | grep python" to find it
[09:55] <dokkeri> Yeah...
[09:56] <__slim__shady__> in my resolution am 640x480?
[09:56] <DShepherd> jonny_: reinstalling doesnt work, going to try a clean isntall
[09:56] <bur[n] er> djm62: i bet i could make it work ;)  as a side note, they work fine in mplayer or vlc?
[09:56] <Chousuke> The user is very often the source of the problem...
[09:56] <MasterYuri> how can i create a new bar ?
[09:56] <djm62> bur[n] er: yes
[09:56] <MasterYuri> on the desktop?
[09:56] <jonny_> DShepherd: go for it, hope it works
[09:56] <dooglus> MasterYuri: right-click an existing panel and chose 'new panel'
[09:56] <djm62> bur[n] er: better in vlc than on mplayer, which again is an immaturity thing
[09:57] <eedge> so I wanna do sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb?
[09:57] <dooglus> eedge: yup
[09:57] <bur[n] er> djm62: dvd playing through gstreamer is a known issue and they are working on it though... so hopefully by Dapper, totem will be that universal experience that i have ;)
[09:57] <eedge> ok, thanks :)
[09:57] <wasabi_> Is there an Ubuntu netinst image? Even unofficial.
[09:57] <MasterYuri> dooglus, i want to create another different bar in a different position on the desktop :O
[09:57] <djm62> bur[n] er: when the players are competing over extras and interface, rather than set up and support for menus, then things will be killer
[09:57] <eedge> how about getting wma's to play on bmp?
[09:57] <dooglus> MasterYuri: that's right.  do what I said
[09:58] <__slim__shady__> mouse serial problem and ny resolution in ubuntu 5.04
[09:58] <bur[n] er> djm62: very true... and when vlc goes gtk2, it will be killer ;)
[09:58] <CaBlGuY> another serial mouse user??
[09:58] <DShepherd> jonny_: well I have removed gnome-art and still nothing
[09:58] <dooglus> MasterYuri: once you've made the new panel you can drag it to where you want it.  (its contents will probably crash due to bugs in gnome, but there's not a lot you can do about that - gnome's buggy I'm afraid)
[09:58] <ubuntu> hi, everyone!
[09:58] <MasterYuri> dooglus, yes
[09:58] <MasterYuri> thx ;)
[09:58] <dooglus> hi ubuntu.  let me guess - you're using the live CD?
[09:58] <jonny_> DShepherd: hmmmm...well.....did you google it?
[09:58] <ubuntu> yes :)
[09:58] <DShepherd> jonny_: nope, have you?
[09:59] <CaBlGuY> __slim__shady__,  just go buy a moderm mouse at goodwill or somethin for like 2 bux..
[09:59] <ubuntu> i've got a question
[09:59] <CaBlGuY> *modern even
[09:59] <dooglus> ubuntu: don't we all!  :)  shoot!
[09:59] <bur[n] er> ubuntu: just ask it already
[09:59] <jonny_> DShepherd...no...lol
[09:59] <__slim__shady__> CaBlGuY, talk portuques?
[09:59] <ubuntu> Ubuntu's cool, but I'me annoyed with one bug
[09:59] <DShepherd> jonny_: you seem to enjoy your current state
[09:59] <CaBlGuY> __slim__shady__,  no sorry..  :/
[10:00] <eedge> how do I install ymmv? apt-get install ymmv?
[10:00] <__slim__shady__> CaBlGuY, chanel ubuntu brasilian
[10:00] <nosilver4u> does anyone know how to convert the gnome menu in ubuntu into a fluxbox menu, or at least have a good template to start from??
[10:00] <jonny_> DShepherd, ill do it
[10:00] <dooglus> eedge: ymmv means "your mileage my vary".  it's not a package :)
[10:00] <DShepherd> jonny_: race you! :)
[10:00] <dooglus> s/my/may/
[10:00] <trappist> !pt
[10:00] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[10:00] <__slim__shady__> CaBlGuY, I'm brasilian
[10:00] <AndyR> lo all
[10:01] <eedge> dooglus, I knew that.... :P
[10:01] <eedge> shuuuush
[10:01] <CaBlGuY> __slim__shady__,   ok and??
[10:01] <eedge> that never happened.
[10:01] <eedge> lol
[10:01] <CaBlGuY> :p
[10:01] <djm62> bur[n] er: doesn't gimp do that?
[10:01] <nu2ubuntu> could someone help me with configuring the proper video card form ubuntu 5.1
[10:01] <trappist> SlicerDicer-: #ubuntu-br
[10:01] <runedude_> bur[n] er, no luck :(
[10:01] <trappist> oops
[10:01] <trappist> __slim__shady__: #ubuntu-br
[10:01] <SlicerDicer-> trappist, heh
[10:01] <__slim__shady__> CaBlGuY, fuck that shit shitwindow
[10:01] <__slim__shady__> ahuahuha
[10:01] <SlicerDicer-> omg...
[10:01] <CaBlGuY> wtf??
[10:01] <trappist> oh he's a troll.
[10:01] <CaBlGuY> Ummm
[10:01] <nosilver4u> yeah, gimp has a color picker
[10:01] <dooglus> bur[n] er: I would take a screen dump (using the PrtScreen key), then open the screenshot in the gimp and use its eyedropper tool.
[10:01] <CaBlGuY> !kick __slim__shady__
[10:01] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: I don't know
[10:02] <__slim__shady__> CaBlGuY, no please!!
[10:02] <runedude_> bur[n] er, even this..
[10:02] <runedude_> runedude@qwerty:~$ aplay -l
[10:02] <runedude_> aplay: device_list:200: no soundcards found...
[10:02] <nosilver4u> yeah, you'd have to do a screen shot first, correct
[10:02] <djm62> nosilver4u: can you get debian "menu" package?
[10:02] <CaBlGuY> __slim__shady__,  then show some damn respect...
[10:02] <dooglus> ubuntu: did you ask your question yet?  we're all waiting...
[10:02] <calamari> paulproteus: tricked it by creating a dpkg wrapper shell script.. it was dying on dpkg --assert-support-depends :)
[10:02] <foreignm> hi
[10:02] <nu2ubuntu> I have a Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900-
[10:02] <paulproteus> calamari: Heh.
[10:02] <paulproteus> Okay.
[10:02] <jonny_> DShepherd...i got nothing
[10:02] <ubuntu> when i quickly select large area with mouse (sorry fore lame english) it doesn't go quickly, but goes with breaking. Does someone knowe why is it so?
[10:02] <paulproteus> You should still read that URL, though.
[10:02] <nu2ubuntu> I cant seem to get the 3D acceleration to work
[10:02] <DShepherd> jonny_: same
[10:03] <nu2ubuntu> probably the wrong driver or something
[10:03] <dooglus> ubuntu: in what program?
[10:03] <jonny_> *sigh* ill keep trying
[10:03] <nu2ubuntu> well I have tested it with games
[10:03] <ubuntu> on desktop
[10:03] <nu2ubuntu> either point2play
[10:03] <foreignm> pardon burada hic turk var mi? bu klavyeyi nasil turkce yapacagim ubuntu 5.10 icin
[10:03] <nu2ubuntu> and doom
[10:03] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[10:03] <nu2ubuntu> I know the card can handle these
[10:03] <DShepherd> jonny_: looking still though
[10:03] <ubuntu> in nautilus too
[10:03] <CaBlGuY> see,peeps just don't know,,  :op
[10:03] <DShepherd> jonny_: have you rebooted since the problem?
[10:04] <dooglus> ubuntu: you mean you're dragging out an area with the mouse, like a rectangle?
[10:04] <foreignm> hi is any one knows about keyboard settings from default to turksih mode?
[10:04] <ubuntu> yes
[10:04] <runedude_> ..... i just ddo not think tthere is any sound support for my system :/
[10:04] <djm62> foreignm: :)
[10:04] <CaBlGuY> runedude,  what audio devices do u have?
[10:04] <jonny_> DShepherd: yes
[10:04] <nu2ubuntu> can anyone help me with this?
[10:04] <dooglus> foreignm: on the system menu in the top right, go preferences->keyboard->layouts->add->turkish
[10:04] <foreignm> please help me,
[10:04] <runedude_> CaBlGuY, its integrated audio .. its a new comp, and dell has te audio inside of it
[10:04] <runedude_> like built into the case
[10:05] <DShepherd> jonny_: i guess that wont work for me then
[10:05] <foreignm> ok thanx alot mate, ubuntu is great distro ever
[10:05] <djm62> foreignm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TurkishTeam?highlight=%28turkish%29
[10:05] <CaBlGuY> runedude,  ok, on board audio shouldn't be a pronblem cuase that's what I got..
[10:05] <bozel> where is the sudoers file?
[10:05] <CaBlGuY> runedude,  all we got to do if find the drivers..
[10:05] <jonny_> all hail the mighty re-boot, give it a try anyway, DShepherd
[10:05] <foreignm> I like it so much - then fedora core 4 and mandrake and suse
[10:05] <dooglus> ubuntu: I guess it's partly that X Windows kind of sucks, and maybe partly because of your graphics card?  I don't know.  It's not too bad for me
[10:05] <runedude_> CaBlGuY, i dont exactly know what the drivers to use are, though.
[10:05] <DShepherd> jonny_: soon, :)
[10:05] <CaBlGuY> runedude,  do you know specificaly the audio that is onboard?
[10:05] <djm62> bozel: to locate any file, type locate filename
[10:05] <apokryphos> bozel: /etc
[10:06] <runedude_> CaBlGuY, no idea :(
[10:06] <CaBlGuY> runedude,  like for instance, mine is SiS based audio..
[10:06] <CaBlGuY> Hmmm
[10:06] <DShepherd> does anybody know how you start the theme manager for gnome at the terminal
[10:06] <DShepherd> ?
[10:06] <CaBlGuY> runedude, maybe do a search online to find out what audio u have for that sytem..
[10:06] <nu2ubuntu> hello?
[10:06] <runedude_> CaBlGuY, 1 sec
[10:06] <apokryphos> nu2ubuntu: hi
[10:06] <CaBlGuY> !tell runedude  about audio
[10:07] <CaBlGuY> !tell runedude  about sound
[10:07] <runedude_> CaBlGuY, http://pastebin.com/415264
[10:07] <CaBlGuY> runedude,  check that out whiole Im looking
[10:07] <runedude_> i didnt get anything
[10:07] <AndyR> anyone managed to get a usb dab radio working under linux?
[10:08] <nu2ubuntu> please help
[10:08] <DShepherd> does anybody know how you start the theme manager for gnome at the terminal?
[10:08] <CarlF1> is the wiki "messed up" ?  https://www.ubuntulinux.org
[10:08] <CarlF1> I cant find anything
[10:09] <runedude_> DShepherd, i think it is gnome-session, isnt it?
[10:09] <CaBlGuY> runedude,  looks like it's gionna be some intel based sound..
[10:09] <eedge> waaaaaay, I have w32 codec fileys running :)
[10:09] <eedge> still cant get wma's working in bmp though
[10:09] <CarlF1> doh!
[10:09] <CaBlGuY> runedude,  shouldn't be a problem figuring out which ones and installing them..
[10:09] <runedude_> hm
[10:09] <CarlF1> maybe cuz I wasn't on the wiki
[10:09] <runedude_> how would i figure it out , though?
[10:09] <hedonick> CarlF1: lol
[10:10] <NoUse> eedge  I 'm not sure bmp or any music player supports wmas
[10:10] <tux-rox> nu2ubuntu, What is the problem?
[10:10] <nickrud> DShepherd, gnome-theme-manager
[10:10] <CaBlGuY> runedude,  Ubuntu more than likely already knows what drivers u need, u may have to just tweak somethin a bit..
[10:10] <ubuntu> I've got GeForce 4 MX 440 and I installed drivers when tryed full ver of Ubuntu - same thing! I saw one guy in russian community's forum also had same problem. Unfortunatly it is still unsolved :(. Thank you anyway, dooglus!
[10:10] <runedude_> CaBlGuY, actually, /dev/dsp doesnt even exist
[10:11] <runedude_> ubuntu does not have any idea what my sound card is
[10:11] <DShepherd> nickrud thanks.....
[10:11] <CaBlGuY> runedude,  1st place u start though is to make sure the sound is up, and not muted..  just basics.. no bifggy
[10:11] <runedude_> yea, its not muted
[10:11] <nickrud> DShepherd, you were so very close ;)
[10:11] <jonny_> DShepherd: figured it out!
[10:11] <CaBlGuY> jest a esc..
[10:11] <DShepherd> jonny_: share share
[10:11] <runedude_> runedude@qwerty:~$ aplay -l
[10:11] <runedude_> aplay: device_list:200: no soundcards found...
[10:11] <MaTaKs> how can i burn mp3 on ubuntu?
[10:12] <jonny_> hard shutdown, boot back up...CHACHING
[10:12] <Madpilot> MaTaKs: I think Serpentine will burn mp3
[10:12] <zcat[1] > runedude: lspci | grep -i audio
[10:12] <DShepherd> jonny_: so...what did you figure out?
[10:12] <tux-rox> MaTaKs, Download Sepentine Audio-CD Creator.
[10:13] <DShepherd> and boort back up caching? what do you mean?
[10:13] <runedude_> nothing, zcat[1] 
[10:13] <DShepherd> boot*
[10:13] <zcat[1] > then you have no soundcard?
[10:13] <Madpilot> tux-rox: Serpentine is installed by default in Breezy
[10:13] <apokryphos> MaTaKs: with k3b
[10:13] <runedude_> yes i do, zcat[1] 
[10:13] <runedude_> it is integrated
[10:13] <MaTaKs> can i download it on repo?
[10:13] <zcat[1] > lspci by itself, anything in there that looks like a soundcard?
[10:14] <jonny_> DShepherd: hard shutdown, boot back up, it works!
[10:14] <runedude_> not really
[10:14] <runedude_> a bunch of intel stuff
[10:14] <oidia> any c++ compiler to recomend?
[10:14] <DShepherd> jonny_: ok I going to try that
[10:14] <runedude_> oidia, g++
[10:14] <tux-rox> MaTaKs, Madpilot says it is installed with Breezy by default. I recommend upgrading to Breezy if you are not running it now.
[10:14] <zcat[1] > anything 'multimedia' ?
[10:14] <CaBlGuY> runedude,  have u went through the wiki already?
[10:14] <oidia> any other since i dont get it to work?
[10:15] <nu2ubuntu> can someone help me with compiling and installing
[10:15] <runedude_> zcat[1] , sec ill jus t pastebin it
[10:15] <nu2ubuntu> i have tried to install both vmware and drivers
[10:15] <MaTaKs> im breezy and when i try to install it says that serpentine is already the newer version. :)
[10:15] <Madpilot> MaTaKs: If you're running 5.10 (Breezy), you've got Serpentine already; it was in Hoary's repo, I think. K3B will be in the repo for either distro
[10:15] <tux-rox> nu2ubuntu, Maybe, what is the problem
[10:15] <nu2ubuntu> and I get can not find Kernel source
[10:15] <runedude_> http://pastebin.com/415275
[10:15] <runedude_> ^^ there.
[10:15] <nu2ubuntu> last error when trying to install intel driver
[10:15] <oidia> runedude_: any other, i dont seam to get it working?
[10:15] <mikkelk> Ubuntu has reversed  and  on my danish keybord. How can i fix it?
[10:16] <nu2ubuntu> ERROR: Kernel modules did not compile
[10:16] <runedude_> oidia, not that i know of.
[10:16] <Madpilot> MaTaKs: Applications menu -> Sound & Video -> Serpentine Audio CD Burner
[10:16] <MaTaKs> how bout when i want to burn videos?
[10:16] <EmergeTW> so what I gather about my problem with Ubuntu not loading my ATI drivers is to uninstall Ubuntu and install Debian, as it seems it is listed as WONTFIX...
[10:16] <runedude_> hm
[10:16] <runedude_> ill just ndiswrapper
[10:17] <runedude_> to use the sound driver
[10:17] <runedude_> ah wait
[10:17] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, what card have you got?
[10:17] <dokkeri> EmergeTW: Which drivers do you have?
[10:17] <Madpilot> MaTaKs: no idea about burning video... sorry.
[10:17] <iiiears> likely an easy way - afraid i am very new and was looking for a way to link a perl script to a keypress.  - found this.
[10:17] <MaTaKs> Madpilot, what about burning iso
[10:18] <tux-rox> nu2ubuntu, What exactly are you trying to do?
[10:18] <zcat[1] > I'd suggest find out what windows identifies it as, then google that +linux
[10:18] <Madpilot> EmergeTW: try following the Ubuntu wiki's ATI section - esp. the section on "reconfiguring X while X is shut down" - that worked for me
[10:18] <iiiears> ubotu tell mikkelk anout keybind
[10:18] <johnw> when i click on System => Administration => Users and Groups it shows up minimized, never comes up and eventually exits
[10:18] <nu2ubuntu> other error The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules.
[10:18] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: radeon 9600
[10:18] <zcat[1] > sucks to have badly supported hardware :-(
[10:18] <johnw> my Users and Groups is broken!
[10:18] <johnw> how do i fix it?
[10:18] <Madpilot> MaTaKs: do that in Nautilus - the file manager. that works for regular data CDs too
[10:18] <nu2ubuntu> I am trying to install intel drivers for linux
[10:18] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, I have that card and it works on my computer
[10:18] <CaBlGuY> MaTaKs,  Burning iso's are easy, just right click, and select burn image..  or somethiin to that effect..
[10:18] <nu2ubuntu> for my card
[10:18] <caonex_> Why when i try to remove linux-restricted-modules-version package it wants to remove the linux-amd64-k8* ?
[10:18] <nu2ubuntu> I tried rpm didn;t work
[10:18] <iiiears> !keybind
[10:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, keybind is Restart DHCP on Wake or swap Del with <--[backspace  Are two of many uses for this app. http://xpybind.sourceforge.net/
[10:18] <nu2ubuntu> used alien
[10:18] <tux-rox> nu2ubuntu, what drivers?
[10:18] <nu2ubuntu> so tried from src
[10:18] <Madpilot> EmergeTW: I've got a 9600XT that now works fine
[10:18] <EmergeTW> dokkeri: messa wont leave me alone, I keep trying to change them to ATI but fglrxinfo keeps saying messa drivers
[10:19] <tux-rox> nu2ubuntu, video, audio, chipset?
[10:19] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, what you want to do is install ubuntu and when it comes to install the drivers install them with apt then alter the config file at the same time
[10:19] <nu2ubuntu> for my integrated intel graphics card 900
[10:19] <MaTaKs> ok thnx man
[10:19] <EmergeTW> Madpilot: I did try that didnt help
[10:19] <johnw> help! My Users and Groups doesn't work
[10:19] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: it is listed in my xorg.conf as being ati
[10:19] <bluefrog-10> johnw, since when?
[10:19] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: the driver is anyway
[10:19] <dokkeri> EmergeTW: Have you apt-get the xorg-drivers-fglrx?
[10:19] <Madpilot> EmergeTW: shutting down X & reconfig worked for me - I couldn't get away from the Mesa drivers either...
[10:19] <johnw> bluefrog-10: since yesterday I think
[10:19] <EmergeTW> dokkeri: yes
[10:19] <grogoreo> EmerTW, have you downloaded xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[10:19] <nu2ubuntu> tux-rox, I downloaded them from intel's site
[10:20] <tux-rox> nu2ubuntu, That should be supported by default. What motherboard do you have?
[10:20] <bluefrog-10> johnw, have u rebooted since?
[10:20] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: yes
[10:20] <nu2ubuntu> dunno
[10:20] <johnw> bluefrog-10: yes
[10:20] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, you need to have fglrx in the config not ati
[10:20] <tux-rox> OK, but it is an Intel video chipset?
[10:20] <bluefrog-10> johnw, did u fiddle with anything special, created new users...?
[10:20] <dokkeri> Ok.. Try adding the line fglrx to /etc/modules and change the driver at /etc/X11/xorg.config to fglrx from ati and then try again..
[10:20] <johnw> bluefrog-10: yes
[10:21] <nu2ubuntu> tux-rox, how do I find out
[10:21] <ICXCNIKA> Hi. I'm using kubuntu, but I am trying to get my Dell Truemobile 1300 WLAN Mini PCI wireless modem to work. Can anyone help?
[10:21] <bluefrog-10> johnw, id
[10:21] <dokkeri> Oh yeah and do a modprobe fglrx
[10:21] <dokkeri> That worked for me atleast
[10:21] <johnw> bluefrog-10: what?
[10:21] <bluefrog-10> johnw, gives what in a terminal, type     id
[10:21] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, http://pastebin.com/415277 you need that
[10:21] <johnw> id
[10:22] <tux-rox> nu2ubuntu, Good question. You are fortunate though, because I work at Intel, I am at work, and on a dual Xeon board, so let me see if I can figure it out through the Proc filesystem.
[10:22] <johnw> bluefrog-10: ok, what do want to know about the output?
[10:22] <bluefrog-10> johnw, yes
[10:22] <ailean> I would like some shadows under the windows and macintoshesque taskbar - is there any project on either of those?
[10:22] <bluefrog-10> johnw, groups
[10:22] <nu2ubuntu> tux-rox, it is a new compaq v2335us
[10:22] <johnw> bluefrog-10: groups=4(adm)
[10:22] <DShepher1> jonny_: yup that worked
[10:22] <nu2ubuntu> tux-rox, I went to the product specs page and I dont see the motherboard
[10:22] <CaBlGuY> ailean,  sytem>prefs
[10:22] <bluefrog-10> johnw, that's all?
[10:23] <CaBlGuY> if not there, not right now
[10:23] <runedude_> hmm
[10:23] <tux-rox> nu2ubuntu, so it is a laptop?
[10:23] <CaBlGuY> ailean,  what distro u got??
[10:23] <nu2ubuntu> tux-rox, yes
[10:23] <runedude_> i heard there is some support in 2.6.13-rc for my sound card
[10:23] <runedude_> but
[10:23] <ailean> CaBlGuY, ok, thanks
[10:23] <jonny_> DSHeper1: AWESOME
[10:23] <runedude_> 2.6.13-rc doesnt work on ubuntu
[10:23] <tux-rox> nu2ubuntu, ok, hangon.
[10:23] <Madpilot> ailean: there's a drop shadows howto on the wiki - search at wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:23] <ailean> CaBlGuY, the latest one - breezy??
[10:23] <runedude_> atleast its not installable w/ apt
[10:23] <bluefrog-10> johnw, ok it's the only group then u are in..
[10:23] <johnw> bludefrog-10: 20(eialout), 24(cdrom),(25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(johnw)
[10:23] <CaBlGuY> ailean,  yeah, ok, that's right
[10:23] <caonex_> is there such tool in ubuntu as dpkg-buildpackage?
[10:23] <ailean> thanks Madpilot I'll look at that
[10:23] <DShepherd> jonny_: yeah, man reboot. works wonders sometimes
[10:24] <ailean> totally unnecessary, but nice to look at :D
[10:24] <foxgamer> Hi all. After some searching, I found that the nvidia drivers don't work if you have AMD64. After some more searching, I couldn't find anything regarding future work on this. Anyone have any info on this?
[10:24] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[10:24] <johnw> bluefrog-10: *20(dialout)
[10:24] <CaBlGuY> sorry foxgamer  no clue here ..
[10:24] <bluefrog-10> johnw, have u fiddled with sudoers files?
[10:24] <jonny_> DShepherd: it didnt work with just a reboot for me...I just had to hard shutdown
[10:25] <iiiears> foxgamer - s it any different for intel 64?
[10:25] <johnw> bluefrog-10: yeah, i think i made it root:root
[10:25] <vbgunz> Hello everyone, I have a SONY video camera and it shoots direct to DVD VOB format... Is there a utility to convert the DVD home movies to a PC type format? OGG MPEG, etc?
[10:25] <johnw> bluefrog-10: should that be different?
[10:25] <foxgamer> iiiears: Apparently so. I am using 32bit version of ubuntu because 64bit is too buggy for me, but that's what I found, yeah.
[10:26] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: ok, I changed the driver to fglrx and restarted gdm but fglrxinfo is still reporting mesa
[10:26] <bluefrog-10> johnw, ok so sudo gedit in terminal don't work either for u..
[10:26] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, for the driver?
[10:26] <johnw> bluefrog-10: no. sudo gedit works
[10:26] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: is there no opengl-update in ubuntu?
[10:26] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: correct for the driver
[10:27] <iiiears> foxgamer - that is awful. - amd 64 chips have been around for years now. :/
[10:27] <bluefrog-10> johnw, how did u edit sudoers file?
[10:27] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, have you done: glxinfo | grep direct
[10:27] <foxgamer> iiiears: I would look into it myself, but I'm new to all of this. lol
[10:27] <tux-rox> nu2ubuntu, are you not seeing any video? Does the screen come up blank instead of a login?
[10:28] <johnw> bluefrog-10: i think i did sudo su; chown root:root: /etc/sudoers
[10:28] <dooglus> bluefrog-10: you should "sudo visudo"
[10:28] <dooglus> um - johnw I mean
[10:28] <nu2ubuntu> tux-rox, no everything looks great
[10:28] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: yes, direct rendering: No
[10:28] <runedude_> ok guys
[10:28] <runedude_> i figured it out
[10:28] <nu2ubuntu> tux-rox, but I can't get 3D acceleration to wrk
[10:28] <runedude_> its a sigmatel audio device.. and its integrated
[10:29] <bluefrog-10> johnw, if u do sudo visudo  what is listed at the end of the file?
[10:29] <nu2ubuntu> tux-rox, and when I look at device manager it doesn't show the right card
[10:29] <nu2ubuntu> tux-rox, figured my driver is messed up
[10:29] <dooglus> how is the official ubuntu kernel built?  is there a simple command (like dpkg-buildpackage or something) I can use to reproduce the build?
[10:29] <johnw> bluefrog-10: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[10:29] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, well I could send you my config file. What size of monitor do you have?
[10:30] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: resolution? 1920x1200
[10:30] <emgee> I forgot to close a loop in a php script and my apache server is runnin' amok. How do I stop and restart apache2?
[10:30] <bluefrog-10> johnw, with a blank line afterwards?
[10:30] <[dEvIL-bOY] > greets
[10:30] <emgee> for some reason x-chat is one of few apps unaffected by the high cpu usage..
[10:31] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, you I think that'll be allright. Can you open up your config file and paste the contents into http://pastebin.com/?
[10:31] <[dEvIL-bOY] > can anyone tell me where is the location of "lineakd -c
[10:31] <[dEvIL-bOY] > list of keyboards
[10:31] <johnw> bluefrog-10: yes
[10:31] <[dEvIL-bOY] > as i need to add an entry and i can't find it
[10:32] <bluefrog-10> johnw, ctrl x   to close sudoers file, and in terminal type gksudo synaptic
[10:33] <dooglus> emgee: "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart"
[10:33] <johnw> bluefrog-10: FATAL: File /etc/gksu.conf is not owned by group root
[10:33] <corincole> does anyone here know how to use aircrack?
[10:33] <nu2ubuntu> tux-rox, any luck what I am trying to do is game on the machine...I know the card can handle them I have tried Doom for linux and tried point2play both just crawl
[10:33] <CaBlGuY> !aircrack
[10:33] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: Do they come in packets of five?
[10:33] <nu2ubuntu> tux-rox, both also say check my linx drivers
[10:33] <stratovarius> hey all
[10:33] <corincole> !aircrack didnt do much...
[10:33] <ubotu> corincole: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:34] <corincole> ?
[10:34] <vbgunz> anyone here know a real nice GUI for converting some DVD home movies to OGG or MPEG, etc?
[10:34] <stratovarius> how can I get an updated sources list for my breezy?
[10:34] <jbroome> dvdrip
[10:34] <CaBlGuY> lemme try somethien else.
[10:34] <bluefrog-10> johnw, guess u could start there...
[10:34] <corincole> who told ubotu to say that?
[10:34] <CaBlGuY> !tell corincole about aircrack
[10:34] <CaBlGuY> nope
[10:34] <corincole> CaBIGuY... not working
[10:34] <johnw> bluefrog-10: make the file owned by root?
[10:34] <CaBlGuY> have u looked on wiki?
[10:34] <corincole> no...
[10:34] <corincole> wheres that?
[10:34] <bluefrog-10> johnw, should be 644 root.root
[10:34] <[dEvIL-bOY] > hello
[10:34] <CaBlGuY> !wiki
[10:34] <corincole> oh, no problem
[10:34] <[dEvIL-bOY] > does anyone knows about lineakd?
[10:34] <tux-rox> nu2ubuntu, Unforunately Intel does not support Ubuntu at this time for the graphics card driver. So you downloaded the tar file?
[10:34] <CaBlGuY> ummm
[10:34] <johnw> bluefrog-10: root:root?
[10:34] <corincole> i joined #aircrack on a guess...   it worked
[10:34] <corincole> :)
[10:35] <josh43> Would there be a reason why My ATI pretends to be hardware accelelrated, but does not do it in real applications?
[10:35] <Var`> greetings
[10:35] <[dEvIL-bOY] > !! lineakd
[10:35] <ubotu> [dEvIL-bOY] : What?
[10:35] <nu2ubuntu> tux-rox, yes can't install due to kernel module missing
[10:35] <bluefrog-10> johnw, u must have had fun yesterday changing permissions on critical files...
[10:35] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: ok, http://pastebin.com/415297
[10:35] <johnw> bluefrog-10: i guess so
[10:35] <CaBlGuY> corincole,  here-->   https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:35] <johnw> bluefrog-10: :)
[10:35] <nu2ubuntu> tux-rox, also rpm was a no go
[10:35] <Var`> is there a way to get firefox 1.5rc1 apart from downloading the tgz from mozilla.org and running it from my home directory?
[10:35] <corincole> CaBlGuY: thanks
[10:35] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: sorry it took so long, I was trying to copy it from emacs, but I dont have my .emacs file on this box yet and it was messing me up.
[10:35] <CaBlGuY> corincole,  NP ;)
[10:35] <josh43> Var`, Wait till it officially gets Ubuntu'd
[10:36] <corincole> CaBlGuY: it was a pleasure!
[10:36] <corincole> lol
[10:36] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[10:36] <Var`> josh43, you talking about the 1.5 final?
[10:36] <johnw> bluefrog-10: is it chown root:root /etc/gksu.conf?
[10:36] <bluefrog-10> johnw, if you chown -R on filesystem, u'd better reinstall or throw the image u've made before fiddling with your system..
[10:36] <Coweater> Var`: roll your own package or perhaps someone else has already done so and you can use theirs
[10:36] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, np. Well I'll put up my config file for you to copy. It doesn't really change much, only really add the ati bit
[10:36] <josh43> Var`, I'm not sure when the ubuntu devs are going to put it in.. they probly will wait until final, yes
[10:36] <bluefrog-10> johnw, sudo chown root.root /etc/gksu.conf
[10:37] <Var`> k, thanks
[10:37] <bluefrog-10> johnw, sudo chmod 644 /etc/gksu.conf
[10:37] <corincole> no results on aircrack on wiki....
[10:37] <Var`> is there a way to make the scroll wheel on my mouse switch desktops like it does in other WMs(such as fluxbox) in gnome?
[10:37] <Samoten_20> help!!!
[10:37] <Samoten_20> i can't change my keyboard layout !!
[10:38] <ICXCNIKA> How does one play streaming audio or Mp3s?
[10:38] <johnw> bluefrog-10: thank you a gazillion
[10:38] <Samoten_20> it keeps ignoring my new settings
[10:38] <josh43> Samoten_20, Run the xorg config again
[10:38] <Tomcat_> !tell ICXCNIKA about restricted
[10:38] <Samoten_20> how do i have to do that?
[10:38] <josh43> Samoten_20, Are you doing it with Sudo?
[10:38] <Samoten_20> i'm using ubuntu since today
[10:38] <josh43> Samoten_20, Ok, 2 seconds
[10:38] <johnw> bluefrog-10: you still there?
[10:38] <johnw> bluefrog-10: i still got issues
[10:39] <josh43> Samoten_20, run: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" in a terminal
[10:39] <bluefrog-10> johnw, can't say am surprised
[10:39] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, http://pastebin.com/415307 I added your touchpad and this will hopefully work!
[10:39] <[dEvIL-bOY] > !! lineakd
[10:39] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, [dEvIL-bOY] 
[10:39] <Samoten_20> i get this
[10:39] <Samoten_20> Package `xserver-xfree86' is not installed and no info is available.
[10:39] <Elsan> How do I add channgels X-Chat joins automatically when connecting to a server? Default is: "#ubuntu" alone, I want to automatically join #ubuntu-fr also.
[10:39] <[dEvIL-bOY] > does anyone knows about lineakd?
[10:39] <bolrod> erh
[10:39] <bolrod> I think I used it
[10:39] <johnw> bluefrog-10: OK.  I have /chroot/named/etc with permissions drxwrxwrxw.  I can't move a file /chroot/named/rndc.conf to /chroot/named/etc
[10:40] <johnw> it says permission denied
[10:40] <bluefrog-10> Elsan, edit the server parameters before connecting
[10:40] <[dEvIL-bOY] > bolrod, lineakd?
[10:40] <nu2ubuntu> tux-rox, still there?
[10:40] <johnw> bluefrog-10: root owns etc
[10:40] <josh43> Samoten_20, run "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[10:40] <Elsan> bluefrog-10: How do I separate the multiple channels?
[10:40] <bolrod> [dEvIL-bOY] : you want your keyboard to have some extra functions?
[10:40] <ompaul> Samoten_20,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << however have you a graphical display?
[10:40] <[dEvIL-bOY] > yes
[10:40] <vbgunz> anyone here know how to take a DVD home movie and convert it to OGG or MPEG, MPG, ETC?
[10:40] <bolrod> I managed to get this MX3000 to work
[10:40] <bluefrog-10> Elsan, comma no space after
[10:40] <bolrod> at least the volume
[10:40] <bolrod> and added start for e-mail and stuff
[10:40] <[dEvIL-bOY] > bolrod, but i need to add a entry to the file that has the list of keyboards
[10:41] <[dEvIL-bOY] > but i can't find it
[10:41] <Elsan> bluefrog-10: Thanks! tried with comme with space after :/
[10:41] <bolrod> but the volume thing seems to work without it..
[10:41] <[dEvIL-bOY] > yeah
[10:41] <sizzam> does image viewer display the animation in animated gifs for anyone?
[10:41] <[dEvIL-bOY] > mine works as well
[10:41] <[dEvIL-bOY] > the volume
[10:41] <bolrod> erh...
[10:41] <[dEvIL-bOY] > how did you do the other keys?
[10:41] <Samoten_20> ompaul,  yes i have
[10:41] <bolrod> somewhere in ~/.lineakd ?
[10:41] <bluefrog-10> johnw, apparently u chrooted bind the fedora way...
[10:41] <grogoreo> Elsan, X-Chat -> Server List -> Select Server -> Edit
[10:41] <bolrod> just search the keyboard type on google.. must be around somewhere
[10:42] <ompaul> Samoten_20, system-preferences-keyboard
[10:42] <johnw> bluefrog-10: uh oh.  what do i do?
[10:42] <bolrod> just configure the type of keyboard..
[10:42] <Elsan> I got it. Thanks, bluefrog-10, grogoreo
[10:42] <ompaul> Samoten_20, is that what you were using?
[10:42] <bolrod> and put some buttons in ~/.lineak  or something.. iirc
[10:42] <bluefrog-10> johnw, no harm, justaa remark... what command line do u use to move the file?
[10:43] <johnw> bluefrog-10: (i'm logged as root from sudo su) mv rndc.conf etc
[10:43] <johnw> bluefrog-10: i tried sudo mv as well
[10:43] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, how did you restart X/GDM? Doing Ctrl + Alt + Backspace?
[10:43] <Chrustinho> how can I control totem via lirc?
[10:43] <bluefrog-10> johnw, and the error is?
[10:44] <rapha> Hi all!
[10:44] <grogoreo> hi
[10:44] <johnw> bluefrog-10: Permission denied
[10:44] <thorsten_> can anyone help my installing an usb 2.0 hub (intern on pci slot)
[10:44] <eedge> heh
[10:44] <eedge> first time running a divx movie.
[10:44] <eedge> crashed.
[10:44] <eedge> restarted.
[10:44] <eedge> all good.
[10:44] <nadjyla> lol
[10:44] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: either that or Ctrl + Alt + F1, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdb start
[10:45] <EmergeTW> err
[10:45] <bluefrog-10> johnw, stopd bind and try again
[10:45] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, have you tried the new config (my one)?
[10:45] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: you get the idea
[10:45] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: trying it now
[10:45] <johnw> bluefrog-10: i think i might be mentally handicapped.
[10:45] <bluefrog-10> johnw, didn't sudo?
[10:46] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: doesnt seem to have worked
[10:46] <johnw> bluefrog-10: still didn't work
[10:46] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, ok. I think the Ctrl + Alt + Backspace is quicker. Then if it doesn't work, you can login to the CLI then use a CLI text editor. Then to start it use StartX
[10:46] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: I'll try rebooting the box
[10:46] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, hmm
[10:47] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: Messa is still listed as the driver, and glxinfo | grep direct still yields no
[10:47] <tux-rox> nu2ubuntu, What exact error message are you getting? and what exact command are you running when that happens?
[10:47] <bluefrog-10> johnw, touch /chroot/named/test
[10:47] <runedude_> hey guys.
[10:47] <johnw> bluefrog-10: ok
[10:47] <estetkaninen> hi everybody :D
[10:47] <runedude_> is there a way to make a sh script run on boot?
[10:47] <bluefrog-10> johnw, mv /chroot/named/test /chroot/named/etc/
[10:47] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, are you using breezy?
[10:47] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: yes
[10:48] <oidia> when compiling in gcc get:  /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[10:48] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, also do you get on to Gnome or just the command line?
[10:48] <oidia> any ideas?
[10:48] <johnw> bluefrog-10: Permission denied
[10:48] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: gnome loads fine
[10:48] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, interesting! erm
[10:48] <runedude_> is there a way to make a sh script run on boot?
[10:48] <bluefrog-10> johnw, ls -al /chroot/named/test
[10:48] <bluefrog-10> johnw, ls -al /chroot/named/etc
[10:48] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: the only thing not working correctly is dri really
[10:49] <johnw> bluefrog-10: should i copy paste the results?
[10:49] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: that is the whole reason for me trying to switch to the fglrx from mesa
[10:49] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, what does fglrxinfo say? is that where it says MESA? actually mesa is the software version of OpenGL
[10:49] <thirso> !tell johnw about pastebin
[10:49] <johnw> pastebin?
[10:49] <EmergeTW> EmergeTW: ah, well, I was under the impression it should say something else
[10:50] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, sorry! I've just realised what mesa is. but i dont get why its not using it
[10:50] <bluefrog-10> johnw, just give opermissions and owners of etc
[10:50] <Amaranth> EmergeTW: Ok, let's go over this, I'll see what I can help with.
[10:50] <johnw> bluefrog-10: drwxrwxrwx 3 root root
[10:50] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, have you altered the install in anyway (other than changing the config and install xorg-driver-fglrx)
[10:50] <ompaul> runedude_, you need to read a man page and study a file the file is inittab and the man page is man inittab
[10:51] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: Hah, I rebooted and fglrxinfo is listing correctly now, as ATI Techno...
[10:51] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: no I havnt
[10:51] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: direct rendering: Yes
[10:51] <EmergeTW> !
[10:51] <ubotu> EmergeTW: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[10:51] <johnw> bluefrog-10: check this out; I tried chmod ug-rwx /chroot/named/etc.  It vae me operation not permitted.
[10:51] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, weh hey!
[10:51] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, must have been the config file then.
[10:51] <bluefrog-10> johnw, not surprising as u couldn't move stuff to anyway
[10:52] <Sandor> hey can any help me ? i have just installed ubuntu but i cant get my internet connection to work ? any tips ?
[10:52] <calamari> is there a command-line way to see if I have any broken or incompletely configured packages?
[10:52] <bur[n] er> ompaul:  /IGNORE -regexp -pattern "is there any way to "
[10:52] <grogoreo> Sandor, how are you connecting to the internet
[10:52] <bur[n] er> :)
[10:53] <Sandor> grogoreo router (DHCP)
[10:53] <ompaul> hehe
[10:53] <grogoreo> Sandor, can you ping the router?
[10:53] <Sandor> grogoreo wait a minute o should try it
[10:53] <Stormx2> in bash, is there a significance between having two sets of square brackets in an if statement, to have one set (if [condition]  vs if [[condition ] ] )
[10:53] <Var`> is there a way to make the scroll wheel on my mouse switch desktops like it does in other WMs(such as fluxbox) in gnome?
[10:53] <farruinn> calamari: apt-get check
[10:53] <bluefrog-10> johnw, don't know. guess u have played a bit too much with root and permissions/owners on systems. there is maybe some kind of tricks i don't know about chroot...  try a reboot in recovery mode and see what happens from there
[10:53] <calamari> farruinn: thank you :)
[10:53] <josh43> Would there be a reason why My ATI pretends to be hardware accelelrated, but does not do it in real applications?
[10:53] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: *shrug* but it works now, so I am happy
[10:54] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, good good. I'm off now
[10:54] <johnw> bluefrog-10: thanks for the help
[10:54] <EmergeTW> grogoreo: thanks, see you later
[10:54] <bur[n] er> josh43: what card?
[10:54] <oidia> where is the sources file located again? where i put the updated links for apt-get?
[10:54] <grogoreo> EmergeTW, np
[10:54] <josh43> bur[n] er, 9800 pro
[10:55] <grogoreo> Sandor, if you can ping it then its your router. If you cant then you should make sure your network is set for DHCP. I've got to go bye
[10:55] <kent> oidia, /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:55] <kent> oidia, but you can do it from synaptic aswell..
[10:55] <Sandor> grogoreo i cant ping it .. :S
[10:55] <bur[n] er> josh43: nevermind then... just curious... have you tried the proprietary drivers and still no go?  (i only have a 7000)
[10:55] <Sandor> my network is set to DHCP
[10:56] <eedge> how do I, a) get wma playback in bmp... b) get audio playback on .mov files.
[10:56] <josh43> bur[n] er, I tried just about everything.. everything I get back says it's good to go, but I can tell that my cpu is doing all the 3d stuff itself
[10:56] <Sandor> hey can any help me ? i have just installed ubuntu but i cant get my internet connection to work ? any tips 
[10:56] <MaX> help me please
[10:56] <bur[n] er> Sandor: it work when it was windows?
[10:56] <Sandor> bur[n] er yes i does
[10:56] <bur[n] er> josh43: you could always write to ATI ;)  or maybe someone else knows more than i?
[10:56] <MaX> problems with grafic board when installing :(
[10:57] <Sandor> what should i do ?
[10:57] <josh43> bur[n] er, I'll be the one to convince them to open-source thier drivers ;) I've been looking on solving this for many months, so I think I'm going to have to be the one to fix it
[10:57] <hyphenated> Sandor: boot into the GUI and run 'network-admin'
[10:57] <ompaul> josh43, go for it, it needs to be done
[10:57] <calamari> farruinn: is there also a way to build a list of files on my system that are not a part of any package?
[10:58] <bur[n] er> josh43: more power to ya... tis beyond me ;)
[10:58] <ompaul> a 4 meg card that works would be better :)
[10:58] <farruinn> calamari: hm, that's an intriguing idea, but I don't know how
[10:58] <josh43> ompaul, It's going to take me longer than anyone else, but I'll work on it :)
[10:58] <calamari> farruinn: np, thanks :)
[10:58] <Sandor> bur[n] er i cant pm :S Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked
[10:58] <josh43> bur[n] er, Thanks for trying :)
[10:58] <Var`> nobody has any idea about my mouse wheel scrolling through virtual desktops?
[10:59] <ompaul> josh43, having a personal interest is a great motivator :)
[10:59] <bur[n] er> all right sandor, just try that network-admin thing that hyphenated suggested :)
[10:59] <josh43> ompaul, Granted.. doesn't mean I have anywhere near the skill yet :P
[10:59] <bur[n] er> Var`: can't do it in gnome
[10:59] <bur[n] er> Var`: u can in xfce and kde
 Sandor: boot into the GUI and run 'network-admin :::::: how do i boot inte the GUI ?
[11:00] <Var`> good to know bur[n] er ... thanks
[11:00] <endra> hey
[11:00] <bur[n] er> Var`: np... it's in bugzilla already though ;)  I've checked many times
[11:00] <eedge> also, when I create a link to smb://server1/f$ on desktop.... it tries to target home/desktop/smb://server1/f$
[11:01] <Var`> is there any way i can get shadows under my windows? on other distros i used xcompset but i'm not sure that is available (or the proper way to do it) here
[11:01] <nosilver4u> is there a 'getting started' guide for fluxbox in ubuntu?
[11:01] <bur[n] er> eedge: i get the same thing!!!  to any location... be it smb or whatever
[11:01] <Var`> i am running the nvidia binary driver and breezy
[11:01] <farruinn> nosilver4u: specific to ubuntu? not that I know of. Take a look at the fluxbox homepage though
 Sandor: boot into the GUI and run 'network-admin :::::: how do i boot inte the GUI ?
[11:01] <bur[n] er> nosilver4u: not really ;)  fluxbox is kind of ubuntu hands off I've seen... try #fluxbox though, they're great :)
[11:01] <nosilver4u> ok, will do
[11:01] <endra> I just burnt the ubuntu 5.10 cd I downloaded and my burnin software said cd had bad sectors, how can I verifiy the cd data if it matches with the ubuntu iso? (like with redhat you can 'test' the cds before you install)
[11:01] <bur[n] er> nosilver4u: and the fluxbox documentation is good :)
[11:02] <eedge> heh :)
[11:02] <bur[n] er> Var`: that's a good forum hunt I'm guessing... or just try it and see how xcompset works out ;)
[11:03] <bluefrog-10> endra, don't burn cd and install from hard drive...
[11:03] <Var`> k thanks
[11:03] <endra> How would installing from hard drive work?
[11:03] <endra> Doesn't it need to format?
[11:03] <rick_> could some look at pastebin to see if they can tell why gnome is locking up in me??
[11:03] <bluefrog-10> endra, if u are under linux now it will be easy
[11:03] <ompaul> endra, what operating system have you got that on your hd with?
[11:04] <endra> I am under xp ;-/
 Sandor: boot into the GUI and run 'network-admin :::::: how do i boot inte the GUI ?
[11:04] <ompaul> endra, does the box dual boot?
[11:04] <endra> Switching to ubuntu tho just used xp to get ubuntu ;p
[11:04] <endra> Never dual booted
[11:04] <ompaul> endra, got a live CD?
[11:04] <bur[n] er> Sandor: from gnome... "alt+f2" "network-admin"
[11:04] <Sandor> how do i boot inte the GUI ???
[11:04] <bluefrog-10> endra, it will work but a bit more complicated. check the iso md5sum, and if it's good burn another cd
[11:04] <Sandor> ok
[11:05] <endra> well I think my burning software is full of shit
[11:05] <endra> lol
[11:05] <endra> Thats why im asking if I can test
[11:05] <rick_> could some look at pastebin to see if they can tell why gnome is locking up in me??
[11:05] <endra> im kinda using my last cd ;(
[11:05] <obontu> hello, i accidently deleted the bottom taskbar, how do i restore it?
[11:05] <farruinn> obontu: try right-click the top panel>new panel
[11:05] <kent> obontu, rightclick on the upper panel and choose "new panel".
[11:06] <kent> farruinn, you beet me to it :
[11:06] <kent> :)
[11:06] <obontu> thanx!
[11:06] <obontu> it worked!
[11:06] <endra> also one more question
[11:06] <endra> Should I go with x64 edition?
[11:06] <bolrod> BMP files are an historic (but still commonly used) file format for the historic (but still commonly used) operating system called "Windows".
[11:06] <bolrod> :D
[11:07] <propagandhi> is anyone here familiar with k9copy
[11:07] <Colloid> what kind of car should i get?
[11:08] <CaBlGuY> Colloid,  one that runs..
[11:08] <CaBlGuY> :p
[11:08] <endra> Cause im running AMD Athlon 64 bit 3200+ on my lappy right now so its either x64 or x32, but for windows x64 didn't work too good.. drivers and shit, wondering if ubuntu will work fine.
[11:08] <ompaul> Colloid, go to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:08] <albacker> guys how to create a .gz ?
[11:08] <calamari> Colloid: maximize mpg, minimize cost ;)
[11:08] <albacker> gzip direcotry ?
[11:08] <Colloid> calamari: mpg is of no concertn, cost < $40
[11:09] <asone> Hi
[11:09] <vladuz976> can anybody tell me what dhcp is?
[11:09] <bur[n] er> dhcp == dynamically getting your ip address from a dhcp server
[11:10] <ompaul> take the car conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:10] <calamari> which package has inittab in it tho.. can't seem to find it
[11:10] <eedge> when I create a link to smb://server1/f$ on desktop.... it tries to target home/desktop/smb://server1/f$
[11:11] <vladuz976> bur[n] er, what then is a dhcp server?
[11:11] <K_Dallas> Q: what is the apt-get flag to get a package from dapper and leave everything else breezy? (apt-get -t dapper tetex3.bin ?)
[11:11] <kemik> pinning ?
[11:11] <kemik> oh.. no nvm me
[11:11] <K_Dallas> think that is what i have to do, though not sure what it is
[11:11] <vladuz976> if i have a dsl modem here and a regular ethernet card, what would be the best way to connect to the net? is dhcp an option?
[11:12] <kemik> K_Dallas:  think you only pin individual pacakges, so no, i dont think thats waht you want
[11:12] <kemik> unless there's some finesse to it
[11:12] <kemik> K_Dallas:  why not just grap the package you want ?
[11:12] <kemik> K_Dallas:  with ftp or such
[11:13] <runedude_> hey all.. i got my sound working
[11:13] <K_Dallas> it seems that synaptic has got the tetex3 finally in its cache ;) now i am upgrading. but maybe next time i do the ftp thing, thanks kemik
[11:13] <runedude_> I hear all the KDE sounds and stuff, but programs wont work w/ the sound :(
[11:13] <bur[n] er> vladuz976: depends on your "DSL modem" if it's really a modem... and if so, is your ISP kicking out DHCP?  If not, is it a router?
[11:13] <Stormx2> is there a difference between if[[ ] ]  and if[ ]  in bash?
[11:13] <EmergeTW> are there any differences between ubuntu and kubuntu besides the use of gnome/kde?
[11:14] <Chizn> does anybody have the problem on their box where.. if you leave the machine running for a few days, the networking just dies, like it wont ping any address or do acheive any successful DNS queries?
[11:14] <Stormx2> EmergeTW: Apps, of course. Thats it
[11:14] <Colloid> why is ubuntu running really, really choppy/slow on my p3 (600mhz / 256mb ram)?
[11:14] <runedude_> I hear all the KDE sounds and stuff, but programs wont work w/ the sound :( any ideas how to fix this?
[11:14] <rick_> could anyone help with my xorg log
[11:14] <NoUse> EmergeTW they are essentially the same distro with different installation CDs
[11:14] <vladuz976> bur[n] er, i don't really know if it's 'really' a modem. what exa ctly is the difference between a modem and arouter
[11:14] <EmergeTW> NoUse: gotcha, that is what I thought, and just wanted to make sure
[11:15] <eedge> when I create a link to smb://server1/f$ on desktop.... it tries to target home/desktop/smb://server1/f$
[11:15] <bur[n] er> vladuz976: router can have multiple devices behind it as it creates an "intranet"
[11:15] <bur[n] er> vladuz976: wow... basics eh ;)
[11:15] <houseoftainted> hello :)
[11:15] <EmergeTW> NoUse: I love eye candy and just cant seem to get much eyecandy going in gnome
[11:15] <bur[n] er> EmergeTW: gdesklets?
[11:15] <bur[n] er> EmergeTW: they're easy to make new ones if it doesn't exist
[11:15] <rick_> nouse you with us??
[11:15] <houseoftainted> speaking of eye candy xfce4 is amazing
[11:15] <houseoftainted> lol
[11:15] <NoUse> rick_ what?
[11:15] <x3ndou> Hello!
[11:16] <Chizn> houseoftainted, what is xfce4?
[11:16] <x3ndou> Is there any way to quickly switch between internet connections?
[11:16] <x3ndou> When switching from wireless to ethernet
[11:16] <rick_> i posted my xorg log to pastebin
[11:16] <x3ndou> it never works
[11:16] <houseoftainted> xfwm
[11:16] <houseoftainted> the window manager
[11:16] <x3ndou> I have to reboot
[11:16] <houseoftainted> :o
[11:16] <Chizn> what do you think of enlightenment?
[11:16] <EmergeTW> bur[n] er: oh snap, thats right, I forgot about those. ( I havnt used linux in about 6 months )
[11:16] <vladuz976> bur[n] er, oh i can only connect one computer to that modem, so i guess it's not a route then. it's jus the thing between the phone jack and my ethernet card
[11:16] <rick_> could you take a look at it to see if you can tell why gnome locks up on me
[11:16] <andi5> calamari: i think sysvinit should have
[11:16] <ompaul>  x3ndou what are the device names eth0 and ?
[11:16] <rick_> we spoke last night about this issue
[11:17] <x3ndou> eth1
[11:17] <x3ndou> ompaul, eth1
[11:17] <vladuz976> how do i know if i am using dhcp right now? does ifconfig tell me that?
[11:17] <NoUse> rick_ nothing looks out of order there
[11:17] <rick_> ok thanks
[11:18] <JoachimB> Random Question.
[11:18] <Nick_Hill> On two installations of breezy on different hardware, the desktop has tended to lock. Probbaly when programs try to use sound system. On another, no such trouble. Has this problem been diagnosed and documented?
[11:18] <JoachimB> Does anybody know how to make umlauts and essets under breezy?
[11:18] <bur[n] er> vladuz976: not always... a one port router can exist
[11:18] <houseoftainted> hmm
[11:18] <vladuz976> bur[n] er, oh, ok so do you know how i can find out?
[11:18] <bur[n] er> vladuz976: what is the brand of modem?
[11:18] <ompaul>  x3ndou you could try "sudo dhclient"
[11:18] <andi5> Nick_Hill: wait, i will send you the patch....done... do you have it? ;-)
[11:18] <bur[n] er> model number?  does it say "router" anywhere?
[11:19] <NoUse> Nick_Hill thats kinda generic, you should probably report your situation to the bug tracker
[11:19] <vladuz976> bur[n] er, its a westell 327w
[11:19] <ompaul>  x3ndou or you try ifdown connectionA ifup connectionB
[11:19] <ompaul>  x3ndou sudo them
[11:19] <endra> anyone know if cisco's VPN client works with ubuntu
[11:19] <NoUse> endra is there a Linux version?
[11:19] <houseoftainted>  i know this is kind of ridiculous, but i cant seem to find the directory for my themes
[11:19] <endra> There is, yes
[11:20] <bur[n] er> vladuz976: got me then... in any event, your ISP is prolly kicking out DHCP if hte modem is not... i assume you tried the 30-second reboot trick of modems?
[11:20] <NoUse> endra try installing it
[11:20] <endra> I'm not running ubuntu yet
[11:20] <vladuz976> bur[n] er, i think it's dhcp, coz my ip is changing every now and then
[11:20] <NoUse> endra google around maybe
[11:20] <endra> I did :)
[11:20] <kent> houseoftainted, normally its enough to start the theme-manager and use that program to install downloaded themes.
[11:20] <andi5> houseoftainted: cannot you simply save it somewhere and add it from there within the gui?
[11:21] <x3ndou_> woot
[11:21] <x3ndou_> worked
[11:21] <bur[n] er> vladuz976: System -> Administration -> Networking
[11:21] <endra> all good it will probably run if not (which leads me to my next question) anyone know if I can run windows within ubuntu using vmware nix version?
[11:21] <Nick_Hill> NoUse, Yes, i know it is a generic observation, But I am experienced with installing GNU/Linux distros and have had a similar problem with 2/3 pieces of hardware, which means I am having a generic problem with different hardware.
[11:21] <x3ndou_> ompaul, is there any way to make a shell script out of that?
[11:21] <vladuz976> bur[n] er, i am not in gnome
[11:21] <bur[n] er> houseoftainted: for reference, the directory is ~/.themes
[11:21] <bur[n] er> vladuz976: kde?
[11:22] <Nick_Hill> s/2/3 pieces of hardware/2/3 systems/
[11:22] <vladuz976> bur[n] er, enlightenment 17
[11:22] <andi5> Nick_Hill: what about disabling sound? does that solve the issue reliably?
[11:22] <bur[n] er> vladuz976: so open a term... then do "dhclient eth0" or "dhclient eth1"
[11:22] <houseoftainted> ok thanks burner, see i still got a hell of alot to learn about linux in general, just before i get there i want xfce to look good while i learn ^_^
[11:22] <bur[n] er> vladuz976: "ifconfig" tells you what your ip is currently
[11:22] <josh43> vladuz976, Did you get that fully running in ubuntu?
[11:23] <mtupper> i have been involved with Linux for less than 24 hours...  i am totally enthralled and am having a blast.   i have a rookie question for anyone:  I was told I should have installed kubuntu instead of plain old ubuntu.  i also read something similar on the web, suggesting installing the KDE desktop metapackage on a system that already has ubtuntu...  is this worth it?
[11:23] <bur[n] er> houseoftainted: Xfce does look good ;)  a little simple, but good ;)
[11:23] <NoUse> Nick_Hill it could be a hardware issue with that hardware
[11:23] <houseoftainted> simple is good lol especially for someone like me ;)
[11:23] <eedge> someones gonna help me with this eventually :p when I create a link to smb://server1/f$ on desktop.... it tries to target home/desktop/smb://server1/f$
[11:23] <vladuz976> bur[n] er, dhclient doesn't work
[11:23] <ompaul> x3ndou_, yes, trying to work out how I would do it
[11:23] <bur[n] er> vladuz976: any errors buddy?
[11:23] <vladuz976> bur[n] er, oh wait need sudo
[11:24] <Chizn> does linux have citrix thin client support?
[11:24] <andi5> mtupper: no, i do not think that you should now start to switch... imho try out gnome, maybe you like it (like me) :)
[11:24] <Chizn> or any other windows thin client support?
[11:24] <vladuz976> bur[n] er, what do i need from the output
[11:24] <bur[n] er> Chizn: rdesktop, vnc :)
[11:24] <ompaul> x3ndou_, put the contents of ifconfig into paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:24] <x3ndou_> ompaul, having problems with the sudo
[11:24] <Grev> I'm getting bored with Sans as a desktop/app font, what do people suggest for a nice looking font for laptop screens
[11:24] <x3ndou_> whoops
[11:24] <bur[n] er> sorry, gotta go
[11:24] <Nick_Hill> andi5, NoUse I agree it is very important to isolate bugs and make good bug reports. But before I do that, I wanted to make sure it wasn't a general problem which has been unravelled.
[11:25] <nu2ubuntu> how do I nstall the latest kernel module
[11:25] <x3ndou_> whoops
[11:25] <x3ndou_> :P
[11:25] <x3ndou_> Anyway
[11:25] <mtupper> thx andi5, again i am a rookie... imho?
[11:25] <x3ndou_> ompaul, having problems with the sudo
[11:25] <Chizn> bur[n] er, thanks
[11:25] <CaBlGuY> ok, any help with Wine..
[11:25] <CaBlGuY> ?
[11:25] <CaBlGuY> err
[11:25] <CaBlGuY> wait.
[11:25] <x3ndou_> ompaul if I'm already sudo'd then the ifdown/ifup will tell me that my password is an invalid command
[11:25] <x3ndou_> CaBlGuY: doign what
[11:25] <CaBlGuY> !tell CaBlGuY about wine
[11:25] <andi5> mtupper: i am sorry, imho = in my humble opinion, gnome is the desktop environment used in ubuntu, kde the one in kubuntu :)
[11:25] <x3ndou_> :P
[11:25] <CaBlGuY> :oP
[11:25] <x3ndou_> I got Diablo IIx working in Wine.
[11:25] <x3ndou_> A while ago.
[11:26] <fr33mind> Is there a tool in opensource world, like Crystal Report, to make some report from postgres that I can access from my home-made app to print?
[11:26] <vladuz976> josh43, i got it running, actually the installer did
[11:26] <ompaul> x3ndou_, well the script should be executed bu gksudo :-)
[11:26] <mtupper> right, i got the rest, didnt catch the imho
[11:26] <mtupper> ok, thanks
[11:26] <x3ndou_> ompaul, wwhaaattt? XDD
[11:26] <josh43> vladuz976, Which installer? Where?
[11:27] <ompaul> x3ndou_, such a script needs to be run by root
[11:27] <bur[n] er> Chizn: tsclient is the gui frontend to both rdesktop and vnc in gnome
[11:27] <x3ndou_> ompaul, yes but this can not be done in ubuntu because su doesn't work, how do you do it
[11:27] <anto9us> fr33mind, openoffice writer should do the job
[11:27] <x3ndou_> ompaul, I'm stupid, teach me
[11:27] <x3ndou_> :D
[11:27] <mar> hi java bin should be where to install
[11:27] <ompaul> x3ndou_,  me no teacher :-P
[11:27] <Sanne> mtupper: kde is said to be more configurable, but also might seem a bit bloated, gnome is more streamlined, but maybe lacks some config options some people wish to have - at the end it depends what you like more, but I also recommend to stick with gnome for now.
[11:28] <vladuz976> josh43, the ubuntu installer did
[11:28] <mtupper> thx andi5.  anybody else?  can anyone make the case for KDE over GNOME?  I am a brand spanking new user to linux and a friend is urging me to install KDE desktop...  I still dont know what the difference/benefits would be?
[11:28] <ompaul> x3ndou_,  but special offer this week only consultant
[11:28] <NoUse> x3ndou ompaul use sudo instead of su
[11:28] <andi5> x3ndou_: if you want to do something as root (superuser), simply type "sudo command param1 param2" (adjust command and paramn ;-)) in the terminal :)
[11:28] <endra> anyone know if I can play counter strike 1.6 on ubuntu?
[11:28] <ompaul> NoUse, gksudo
[11:28] <mtupper> ok, i didnt see that sanne, thx
[11:28] <Nick_Hill> fr33mind, IMO, applications like that are in flux and development. Have you checked Openoffice 2 base?
[11:28] <x3ndou_> andi5 I know but using a script I don't know how to give the command sudo my pword
[11:28] <K_Dallas> Q: updated my tetex to 3 and now it says if i have to keep my 00updmap.cnf or replace with the new one? what is it in the first place, font map or something else? thanks
[11:28] <x3ndou_> andi5 a shell script :P
[11:29] <DjKritical> Does anyone know how to change the port VNC uses?
[11:29] <Sanne> mtupper: but beware, sometimes discussion about gnome vs kde can get quite heated ;)
[11:29] <ompaul> x3ndou_, gksudo would be useful however sudo - could be in the last line
[11:29] <ompaul> x3ndou_, sudo only needs to be invoked to take the existing one down
[11:29] <andi5> x3ndou_: what starts the script?
[11:29] <houseoftainted> hmm bur[n] er  in the directory, i found it to only be empty, do i put the theme file in there and add it from the gui?
[11:29] <calamari> is there a command-line way to get a list of installed packages?
[11:29] <CaBlGuY> ok, I got Wine installed, how I use it??  and where is it? I don't see it on the menus..
[11:29] <ompaul> x3ndou_, wrong
[11:29] <delire> calamari dpkg -l
[11:29] <andi5> calamari: dpkg -l
[11:29] <delire> calamari dpkg -l | grep ii
[11:30] <x3ndou_> ompaul, confused. :P
[11:30] <delire> will give a list of packages considered installed..
[11:30] <calamari> delire, andi: thanks :)
[11:30] <ompaul> x3ndou_, it works just let me think for a few mins
[11:30] <x3ndou_> 'kay
[11:30] <mtupper> well, i guess thats enough input from the veterans...  I am off to keep wandering around my new system...  btw, if anybody cares or wants to know, I am a 10yr windows users and have a relatively new HP Pavilion dv1000 laptop and Ubuntu installed without a single hitch, I cant believe I didn't do this sooner.
[11:30] <Sanne> calamari: or even dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[11:30] <NoUse> CaBlGuY wine windowsfile.exe
[11:30] <Grev> I'm getting bored with Sans as a desktop/app font, what do people suggest for a nice looking font for laptop screens
[11:30] <iceman> Is there anything like karamba for gnome
[11:30] <CaBlGuY> Hey NoUse !  o/  ummm  whers that at??
[11:30] <delire> iceman: perhaps gdesklets
[11:30] <ompaul> x3ndou_, paste ifconfig into paste.ubuntulinux.nl I want to play with the data the way it is on your machine this is a desktop
[11:30] <NoUse> CaBlGuY in the terminal
[11:30] <Nick_Hill> fr33mind, there is an app called pgaccess for postgress, forms and reports.
[11:31] <andi5> Sanne: hehe, this is geeky and you know that ;)
[11:31] <Sanne> mtupper: good luck, isn't Ubuntu great? :)
[11:31] <CaBlGuY> NoUse,  oh ok.. hang on
[11:31] <x3ndou_> ompaul, kay gotta put in wireless card first
[11:31] <delire> iceman: but only vaguely similar: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[11:31] <Sanne> andi5: yes, it is indeed ;)
[11:31] <nu2ubuntu> has anyone installed win4lin on ubuntu
[11:31] <ompaul> x3ndou_, hehe
[11:31] <mar> I have java bin on my desktop - where does it has to be so I can install it?
[11:32] <bur[n] er> iceman: gdesklets-data is a good package to get ;)
[11:32] <Nick_Hill> !java
[11:32] <CaBlGuY> ok, NoUse  created Dir, said cannot find windowsfile.exe
[11:32] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[11:32] <anto9us> DjKritical, in a terminal type vncserver :<port>
[11:32] <NoUse> CaBlGuY windowsfile.exe was to be replaced with the file you want to run
[11:32] <delire> though perhaps not quite as ambitious as karamba one can still acheive a good look: http://www.lynucs.org/?gdesklets
[11:33] <axelmarquette> hi people
[11:33] <hav0k> hey, does anyone know anything about setting up printers?
[11:33] <CaBlGuY> NoUse,  ummmm  Ok ..  the "file" that I want to run is on a CD, it's not installed yet.. it's a game..
[11:33] <calamari> hav0k: I know that Ubuntu makes it incredibly easy :)
[11:33] <rvr> Hi. How can I install a package during installation proccess, manually?
[11:33] <mc|amb> how do I connect to a computer in my local network (they are conected with a router)?
[11:33] <NoUse> CaBlGuY so put the CD in and run like wine /media/cdrom/somefile.exe
[11:33] <x3ndou__> augh
[11:33] <rvr> I get an error about zlib1g not going to be installed
[11:34] <andi5> rvr: do you mean "dpkg -i <pkgfile>"?
[11:34] <CaBlGuY> NoUse,  ok, lemme try that. :p
[11:34] <nu2ubuntu> where do I find/upgrade kernel-sourc
[11:34] <delire> rvr: local install 'dpkg -i <package>', network install 'apt-get install <packagename>'
[11:34] <calamari> hav0k: System -> Administration -> Printing
[11:34] <x3ndou__> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3993
[11:34] <haggren> hey, i just installed ubuntu as an alternative to windows. near all my application-needs have been filled exept a PHP/html-edtitor with built-in support for ftp/sftp access to my webserver - do anyone have a program-suggestion i can use?
[11:34] <hav0k> well, i was trying to set up my printer, and i went and put it as dell, but the drivers arnt on there already, so how can i get them off the cd?  it says to open a ppd file.
[11:34] <x3ndou__> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3993
[11:34] <rvr> delire: Thanks
[11:34] <delire> haggren: nvu or quanta
[11:34] <eedge> someones gonna help me with this eventually :p when I create a link to smb://server1/f$ on desktop.... it tries to target home/desktop/smb://server1/f$
[11:35] <ompaul> x3ndou__, do this /msg nickserve ghost
[11:35] <NoUse> eedge how are you creating that link?
[11:35] <Nick_Hill> hav0k, Dell printers are usually Lexmark
[11:35] <eedge> ln in terminal
[11:35] <hav0k> like, under adding a printer
[11:35] <haggren> hey, i just installed ubuntu as an alternative to windows.
[11:35] <hav0k> oh
[11:35] <andi5> hav0k: hacky, but worked for me: copy the ppd to /usr/share/cups/model and reload cups (/etc/init.d/cups reload)
[11:35] <haggren> near all my application-needs have been filled exept a PHP/html-edtitor with built-in support for ftp/sftp access to my webserver - do anyone have a program-suggestion i can use?
[11:35] <segphault_> anybody know if the stupid bug that prevents ruby/gnome from working will ever be fixed?
[11:35] <nu2ubuntu> kernel-source anyone?
[11:35] <delire> haggren: http://www.nvu.com/ http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/
[11:36] <NoUse> eedge you can't create a link to a network drive that way, ln only works for linking files
[11:36] <anto9us> eedge, Places | Connect to Server will create a Desktop link for you
[11:36] <delire> haggren: gftp is a good ftp client, though both quanta and nvu support the protocol innately AFAIK
[11:36] <hav0k> yeah, but how do i get the ppd?  its a windows install cd....
[11:36] <haggren> delire: i added both, but neighter have the ftp-support or what?
[11:36] <ompaul> x3ndou__,  :)
[11:36] <rvr> delire: Err... I mean from console
[11:36] <NoUse> eedge go to "Places" and "Connect to Server"
[11:36] <andi5> hav0k: did you search for the ppd file?
[11:36] <rvr> delire: dpkg is not found
[11:36] <delire> haggren: i believe both do.
[11:36] <haggren> okay, i'll take another look
[11:36] <hav0k> search where?
[11:36] <eedge> sudo ln -s smb::/server1/f$/cliche
[11:36] <ThePyromaniac> hey guys
[11:36] <n1xt3r> has anyone here succesfully compiled a kernel from the kernel-source-2.6.11 package on breezy?
[11:36] <calamari> hav0k: was your printer in the list?
[11:36] <hav0k> no
[11:36] <ThePyromaniac> i noticed a few HTPC / WMCE clones about. anyone know a GOOD one?
[11:36] <X3ndou> okay
[11:36] <delire> rvr: sudo dpkg -i <packagename>'
[11:36] <NoUse> eedge yeah that won't work, follow the stuff I sent you
[11:36] <X3ndou> I'm good now
[11:36] <Sanne> haggren: bluefish is also nice, dunno about ftp, but you can open an url.
[11:36] <calamari> hav0k: oic.. I have no idea then :)
[11:36] <hav0k> haha
[11:36] <hav0k> okay
[11:36] <X3ndou> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3993
[11:36] <JDahl> haggren, you might consider just vim or emacs for all you editing needs, and copy files manually
[11:37] <calamari> hav0k: mine was, and it was very easy
[11:37] <hav0k> yeah, i figured it would be for most
[11:37] <ompaul> X3ndou, you will want to walk around (wireless) or you will want to be hardwired
[11:37] <Nick_Hill> hav0k, What model is your printer?
[11:37] <hav0k> it actually looks like it would be easy... just if mine was on the lst
[11:37] <axelmarquette> hello, does anyone use the amd64 to answer a question ?
[11:37] <Stormx2> Hi, could some one give me a hand with something for a sec?
[11:37] <hav0k> dell 720
[11:37] <X3ndou> ompaul, sometimes I have my laptop on and I just want to plug in my wireless card and go, but it won't work and I've found the only way is to reset it
[11:37] <cafuego> n1xt3r: Do use the 2.6.12 source, for a less crusty end result.
[11:37] <X3ndou> ompaul, reset my comp that is
[11:37] <cafuego> axelmarquette: Yah
[11:37] <Nick_Hill> hav0k, That is made by Lexmark.
[11:37] <hav0k> okay
[11:37] <andi5> axelmarquette: i have an amd64, if you mean that (but not switched on)
[11:38] <fr33mind> Nick_Hill, anto9us : No I don't checked openoffice 2 at all.  But I must be able to access my report FROM my home-made app in C (so there should be an API)
[11:38] <hav0k> well, under lexmark, which one should i choose... cause i dont see a 720
[11:38] <ompaul> X3ndou, right now u have the card in and are hardwired
[11:38] <ompaul> X3ndou, am I right?
[11:38] <X3ndou> ompaul, yes that is correct
[11:38] <axelmarquette> cafuego: great, well before i install i just want to know if its easy to get audio/video codecs working on 64 structure, its being such pain on fedora
[11:38] <X3ndou> ompaul, eth1 is the wireless and eth0 is my ethernet
[11:38] <nicholaspaul> I"m having trouble logging in to a Ubuntu machine from OSX finder. It keeps hanging - anyone know what could be missing?
[11:38] <Nick_Hill> hav0k, Looks like Z615
[11:38] <hav0k> okay, ill try that
[11:39] <nicholaspaul> BTW I'm able to ssh no proble
[11:39] <nicholaspaul> ,
[11:39] <nicholaspaul> no problem, that is
[11:39] <felipe_> #ubuntu-es
[11:39] <n1xt3r> cafuego: is 2.6.12 source an official ubuntu package yet?
[11:39] <Nick_Hill> hav0k, google for: dell 720 lexmark
[11:39] <ompaul> X3ndou, give me 10 minutes I want to do this neatly
[11:39] <haggren> JDahl, Sanne: nvu is only for html - actually it support the ftp-thingy....
[11:39] <hav0k> okay
[11:39] <X3ndou> ompaul, okay :P
[11:39] <runedude_> hey all.. i have a windows drive mounted via /mnt/windows, but regular users cant access it? why?
[11:39] <hav0k> also z615 isnt on the list... but ill google it
[11:39] <andi5> nicholaspaul: how do you try to "log into" if you do not mean ssh?
[11:39] <runedude_> can i give access to certain users so they can access files in /mnt/windows ?
[11:39] <mc|amb> how do I start samba?? sorry for the question
[11:39] <Nick_Hill> hav0k,Dell printers are Lexmark printers with a little extra plastic so you cant use the cheaper lexmark cartridges.
[11:40] <delire> runedude_: check /etc/fstab to ensure the 'user' switch is added to the mount arguments.
[11:40] <hav0k> oh
[11:40] <nicholaspaul> andi5 by clicking on Network in the Finder - not terminal.
[11:40] <hav0k> haha, how cheap...
[11:40] <runedude_> delire, im not using fstab to mount this
[11:40] <runedude_> im mounting it at runtime
[11:40] <delire> runedude_: 'fstab' == file system table,
[11:40] <n1xt3r> cafuego: nevermind, I found it!
[11:40] <runedude_> i know.
[11:40] <erUSUL> runedude, show the fstab line afecting the drive
[11:40] <runedude_> im not using it.
[11:40] <Nick_Hill> hav0k, Dell charge UK26 for a cartridge. The lexmark cartridge cost UK 17
[11:40] <andi5> nicholaspaul: yes, but what does that do? search for smb/nfs shares? something else?
[11:40] <Sanne> haggren: I'm pretty sure Quanta can do ftp, but it's a QT/KDE app, so you will get installed those libs also.
[11:40] <delire> runedude_: 'are you giving the whole mount command on the console?
[11:40] <runedude_> I'm using `mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows` every time i start up
[11:40] <hav0k> whoa, thats a rip
[11:40] <runedude_> yes, delire .
[11:40] <Nick_Hill> hav0k, But you can ue a pair of pliers to modify it.
[11:40] <nicholaspaul> andi5 - unlike the other machines on the network, i dont get any dialog box - it just hangs the finder.
[11:41] <delire> runedude_: well pass 'user' to the argument. man mount. it's all in there.
[11:41] <axelmarquette> andi5: great, well before i install i just want to know if its easy to get audio/video codecs working on 64 structure, its being such pain on fedora
[11:41] <erUSUL> runedude, pass the correct parameters to the mount comand. man mount
[11:41] <haggren> Sanne: I allready installed quanta when browsing the packages available..
[11:41] <runedude_> erUSUL, ok..
[11:41] <hav0k> really!
[11:41] <nicholaspaul> andi5 - i click on the icon, and get a beachball indefinitely.
[11:41] <haggren> sanne: Ill have a look
[11:41] <Sanne> haggren: ah, ok... :)
[11:41] <delire> runedude_: also 'rw' for read/write
[11:41] <hav0k> awsome... i should probably google that too then... cuase im cheap
[11:41] <Stormx2> Hi?
[11:41] <runedude_> delire, i dont want write, only read
[11:41] <Stormx2> Could someone give me a hand?
[11:41] <mc|amb> how do i start samba(i've never used it) does i have a gui?????
[11:41] <nicholaspaul> hi stormx2
[11:42] <spudse> hello I just apt-get fluxbox, but now I would like to start it aswell. But how do I go about that ?
[11:42] <erUSUL> runedude, i can see why do you not mount it via fstab...
[11:42] <Ne0-ChRoNo> hi all
[11:42] <delire> runedude_: then 'ro' for read only. why not make an fstab entry and alias it if you do it every time?
[11:42] <runedude_> k.
[11:42] <ailean> CaBlGuY, I got the DropShadows working
[11:42] <delire> runedude_: s/time/boot
[11:42] <runedude_> delire, idk, i like doing it manually
[11:42] <runedude_> it gives me more security
[11:42] <delire> sure ok
[11:42] <nicholaspaul> mcjamb, if you follow the starter guide, samba will be running automagically. You dont need to click on anything.
[11:42] <X3ndou> Hey, if I want to run a command on startup how do  I do it
[11:42] <andi5> mc|amb: first try to right-click a folder in nautilus (the gnome file manager), there is some "share it" for me
[11:42] <X3ndou> for some reason, xscreensaver isn't starting up
[11:42] <JDahl> haggren, if you're going to do development with GNU tools, do yourself the favor and spend an hour doing the VIM and Emacs tutorials. Those editors are really good, but take some getting used to. Syntax highlighting and code-indentation etc. is at least as good as in any other language specific IDEs
[11:42] <X3ndou> :P
[11:42] <Stormx2> I'm wondering. In terminal, why does    echo -n "Rename? (y/n) > "      not prompt for user input? it just ends the script......
[11:42] <CaBlGuY> ailean,  good!!  Im happy for ya..  :)
[11:42] <Nick_Hill> mc|amb, There are several UIs for Samba. Recent KDE has a nice samba GUI. You canalso use webmin. There might be a GNOME one too.
[11:42] <mc|amb> andi5: i'll check
[11:42] <ailean> CaBlGuY, it's hell of a slow though :)
[11:43] <ailean> CaBlGuY, I wonder if there's anything I can do to speed it up . . .
[11:43] <Ne0-ChRoNo> pls can some admin help me?
[11:43] <n1xt3r> Stormx2: slow down and take a moment to read the bash man pages - I think you want "read".
[11:43] <hav0k> hmm, i can get the red hat linux drivers for it off the lexmark site... would those work?
[11:43] <haggren> JDahl, Sanne: right, you're not the first who says that
[11:43] <ompaul> X3ndou, msg me
[11:43] <ThePyromaniac> anyone solved the Breezy 64-bit flash plugin problem?
[11:43] <Stormx2> n1xt3r: I have read.
[11:43] <CaBlGuY> ailean,  not sure...   still workin on installin windows progs. myself.. ;)
[11:44] <axelmarquette> I need an answer before I install Ubuntu : on the 64bit version, is it easy to get audio/video codecs and apps working ???
[11:44] <Stormx2>    response=
[11:44] <Stormx2>    echo -n "Rename? (y/n) > "
[11:44] <Stormx2>    read response
[11:44] <Stormx2>    if [ "$response" != "y" ] ; then
[11:44] <Stormx2>     echo "no y"
[11:44] <Stormx2>     itsok=
[11:44] <nicholaspaul> andi5: i've made sure i added the right user and made folders available
[11:44] <Stormx2>    fi
[11:44] <ThePyromaniac> i know Hoary has a 64-bit flash plugin from a thrid party developer, but i aint got one for breezy
[11:44] <andi5> nicholaspaul: if have no idea what the finder should show instead, so i cannot tell you which log file to check :)
[11:44] <ailean> CaBlGuY, through wine?
[11:44] <haggren> JDahl, Sanne: ill look at emacs tomorrow.. btw. quanta doesnt have the ftp-support at all
[11:44] <nicholaspaul> axelmarquette: almost anything is  a matter of time :)
[11:44] <X3ndou> Stormx2: paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:44] <CaBlGuY> ailean,  yeah, Im installin UT right now
[11:44] <erUSUL> Stormx2, please do *not* paste here
[11:44] <Stormx2> ok ok sorry
[11:44] <axelmarquette> nicholaspaul: what do u mean
[11:44] <rvr> How can I install a package from the CD install console?
[11:44] <Stormx2> I'm fustrated thats all ^_^
[11:44] <Ne0-ChRoNo> pls i need some help
[11:44] <nicholaspaul> andi5 the finder should show a dialog box, asking for user and password.
[11:44] <ailean> CaBlGuY, I got it working very well under Fedora - they're damn close to being able to run everything
[11:45] <Nick_Hill> hav0k, It is best to install everything through the package management system. There are 15,000 packages available through there, and they are likely compatible :0
[11:45] <NoUse> Stormx2 doesn't negate the rules
[11:45] <Sanne> haggren: it doesn't? I thought I read it some time ago... and I didn't say anything about emacs ;) (have to check it out as well...)
[11:45] <haggren> JDahl, Sanne: conclusion: nvu has the ftp.thingy and quanta the php-coloring... but neighter has both
[11:45] <Stormx2> NoUse: hmm?
[11:45] <andi5> nicholaspaul: for accessing samba shares or what? :)
[11:45] <ailean> CaBlGuY, M$ obv keep changing specs to make it hard to keep up
[11:45] <n1xt3r> Stormx2: don't set response, and use case instead
[11:45] <nicholaspaul> axelmarquette: you asked if it was easy/not. Id say almost anything is possible given time :)
[11:45] <hav0k> the package management system... okay
[11:45] <NoUse> Stormx2 being frustrated doesn't negate the rules
[11:45] <CaBlGuY> ailean,  cool, Im lookin forward to playin my games on a Linux Distro..
[11:45] <nicholaspaul> yes andi5 samba shares.
[11:45] <cafuego> ThePyromaniac: There is a'gplflash' for breezy (needs compiling) but that crashes FF reliably, so don't bother.
[11:45] <ailean> CaBlGuY, what are you looking to play?
[11:45] <Stormx2> NoUse: I know, leave me alone
[11:45] <haggren> JDahl, Sanne: thanks (btw: er i ikke begge danskere?)
[11:45] <Stormx2> n1xt3r:  Hmm, how do you mean?
[11:46] <CaBlGuY> ailean,  I'm big into Diablo2 but I just got UT installed, so, Ima go check it out..
[11:46] <axelmarquette> nicholaspaul: yeah thats sure enough ;), let me reformulate, are the installs ready and working or do i need to learn how to code into mp3 ??
[11:46] <Ne0-ChRoNo> pls im having trouble to set up my internet conection
[11:46] <delire> haggren: Quanta is based on KDE so this means it is network transparent from any dialog or project. It can use not only FTP but other KDE KIO slaves from file dialogs or in project settings. For instance if you want secure access try the fish KIO slave that uses SSH. Just enter fish://[user] @domain in any dialog or select fish in your project settings.
[11:46] <cianci> hi, i am trying to get ndiswrapper on my system to have internet working on ubuntu. i am trying to "un tar" the file, but it says i don't have the right permisssions?
[11:46] <Sanne> haggren: huh? Dansk? I'm south of that ;)
[11:46] <Stormx2> n1xt3r: I'm rushing into the whole bash scripting thing I know. I've coded before but ;-)
[11:46] <andi5> nicholaspaul: thanks, this was all i was asking for ;-) , what about the samba log files, did you recheck your configuration of samba? *nasty questions* :)
[11:46] <delire> haggren: that's a quote from the project site BTW.
[11:46] <ThePyromaniac> cafuego, thanks... heh just seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78792
[11:46] <cafuego> axelmarquette: I can watch quicktimes and xvids on my AMd64 machine using xine. mp3 is not an issue, I don't have wma/wmv, so I can't try those.
[11:46] <nicholaspaul> axelmarquette: i dont think you need to code into mp3  , no....
[11:46] <ailean> CaBlGuY, I got all the MS office suits apps working except MS Money
[11:46] <Ne0-ChRoNo> ...
[11:47] <nicholaspaul> andi5: you mean smb.conf?
[11:47] <CaBlGuY> ailean,  cool..  lemme go test this.. brb
[11:47] <ailean> CaBlGuY, not that you'd want to use MS Office over OpenOffice, but just to know I can :)
[11:47] <haggren> delire: thanks....
[11:47] <ailean> CaBlGuY, k
[11:47] <delire> haggren: np
[11:47] <n1xt3r> Stormx2: use the "case" construct e.g. case $response in ... y) command;; ... esac
[11:47] <andi5> nicholaspaul: yes, i think so :)
[11:47] <nicholaspaul> axelmarquette: it all depends what you are trying to do, that was a very vaque question
[11:47] <Stormx2> n1xt3r: ok
[11:47] <haggren> sanne: hehe, sanne is just a typical danish name
[11:47] <JDahl> haggren, I am Danish- and chosing a tool just for ftp support seems odd. Just "rsync" files to your server when you're done editing
[11:47] <shawarma> Has anyone received any Breezy CD's yet?
[11:47] <cianci> hi, i am trying to get ndiswrapper on my system to have internet working on ubuntu. i am trying to "un tar" the file, but it says i don't have the right permisssions?
[11:47] <x3ndou_> I haven't, shawarma
[11:47] <max> please really need help
[11:47] <Stormx2> n1xt3r: Can't understand why it would make a difference though! its no even prompting for user input, its ending the script...
[11:47] <axelmarquette> cafuego: are u having any issues, what do u think of me switching from fedora to ubuntu, apart the fact that i like the philosophy here ?
[11:48] <cafuego> shawarma: Seveas received 2200 of them about 2 weeks ago.
[11:48] <x3ndou_> shawarma supposively mine were shipped tho..
[11:48] <Stormx2> n1xt3r: Actually, its not ending the script.
[11:48] <Sanne> haggren: heh, also a common german one (or, to be precise, it's an abbreviation of a common german name)
[11:48] <cafuego> axelmarquette: No diea, I've never used Fedora.
[11:48] <axelmarquette> nicholaspaul: not losing time to get my mp3 and vids going
[11:48] <haggren> JDahl: i'm used to use macromedia homesite so my first thought was to find a direct alternative.. I know there are a lot of alternatives
[11:48] <shawarma> cafuego: 2200? Geez, I thought my 315 were a big batch. :-)
[11:48] <nicholaspaul> andi5: i can try rebuilding smb.conf. i would have thot it was the same as hoary.
[11:48] <cafuego> shawarma: MUAHAH!
[11:48] <cianci> should i login as root in order to do that?
[11:48] <haggren> JDahl: still the direct alternative was easier
[11:48] <eedge> trying to access my windows server1 shares... from vlc?
[11:48] <delire> max: just ask
[11:49] <cafuego> shawarma: He did say he game the mailman 2 as they were delivered ;-)
[11:49] <eedge> cause they're not on desktop
[11:49] <haggren> sanne: ;-)
[11:49] <shawarma> x3ndou_: My order was sent to the shipping company on september 21st, so I suppose they should have been sent by now..
[11:49] <nicholaspaul> axelmarquette try googling a specific question
[11:49] <axelmarquette> nicholaspaul: but i think it will be ok according to cafuego,
[11:49] <Nick_Hill> hav0k, A guide to Lexmark printers on Ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714
[11:49] <NoUse> eedge you'll have to mount the samba share to a folder
[11:49] <kevogod> Can I use Ubuntu to protect Top Secret government documents?
[11:49] <andi5> nicholaspaul: well, normally you share with nfs between unix machines, do not you? ;)
[11:49] <Sanne> haggren: I'm a web developer, and my workflow is just a good text editor, firefox for testing, and an ftp client to upload when I'm done.
[11:49] <axelmarquette> nicholaspaul: are there issues with 3d acceleration on ati cards ?
[11:49] <max> when i do sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fgkrx for install the drivers for  ATI
[11:49] <trappist> kevogod: if you have some handy, yeah
[11:49] <hav0k> thanks so much
[11:49] <nicholaspaul> andi5: i usually just use the OSX Finder
[11:50] <dennis999> I have lost the ability to minimise windows in hoary to the bottom bar. Has anyone seen this problem?
[11:50] <shawarma> cafuego: Hehe.. I'm really looking forward to getting them so that i can hand then out at the university.
[11:50] <cafuego> axelmarquette: ATI and amd64 aren't friends, no.
[11:50] <nicholaspaul> axelmarquette: no idea. Try googling.
[11:50] <kevogod> trappist, OK, cool!
[11:50] <Sanne> haggren: I'm also testing in other browsers...
[11:50] <max> he says E: Impossible to find xorg .. . .
[11:50] <JDahl> haggren, google for "GNU tutorials" or "software development GNU" or something like that. After a day you'll know all you need
[11:50] <cafuego> max: xserver-xorg
[11:50] <dak> hello
[11:50] <shawarma> dennis999: What happens when you try?
[11:50] <delire> max: see what cafuego says
[11:50] <axelmarquette> cafuego: hmmm what happens ?
[11:50] <kevogod> ATI makes the best Linux drivers. No one can compare to them.
[11:50] <dak> can i quickly check something about installing ubuntu?
[11:50] <phinnaeus> is there a graphing calculator for ubuntu?
[11:50] <Nick_Hill> hav0k, In a busy channel, it can help by quoting the name of the person you are replying to. This way, the chat program will highlight the line. Otherwise, I might miss a replay
[11:50] <CaBlGuY> ailean,  well, it's not workin..
[11:50] <shawarma> cafuego: Whereabouts does Seveas live? Do you happen to know that?
[11:51] <trappist> kevogod: having documents on the same filesystem as ubuntu doesn't automatically protect them, mind you.  but ubuntu provides all the tools you need to protect them.
[11:51] <dennis999> they disapear but they're still there when i shut down
[11:51] <CaBlGuY> givin me an error..
[11:51] <CaBlGuY> :/
[11:51] <max> cafuego hun? do that how?
[11:51] <Nick_Hill> hav0k, Like in Xchat, type the first few letters then tab will complete the name.
[11:51] <delire> kevogod: aside from NVIDIA, which has around twice as many linux driver developers working full time.
[11:51] <n1xt3r> Stormx2: try replacing 'echo -n...' with read -p '... ? '
[11:51] <funkyHat> :( this is giving me such headaches
[11:51] <JDahl> haggren, the hardest part of using Linux and GNU is when you want to do things like you were used to in Windows
[11:51] <dak> am i right in thinking that all that i have to do is burn the ubuntu 5.10 install-i386 iso onto a cd and then reboot
[11:51] <DjKritical> Does anyone know how to change the port that VNC uses? I have 2 pcs here behind a router with port forwarding setup.. I can't map dynamic ports on the router..
[11:51] <max> ahhh ok
[11:51] <kevogod> delire, Well, of course.
[11:51] <funkyHat> i might just give up and reinstall
[11:51] <kevogod> delire, :P
[11:51] <ompaul> kevogod, pity they (A) don't GPL them (B) give a nice easy hook for the o/s to catch like a install.sh that they checked for the base os and worked with it
[11:51] <runedude_> hey guys
[11:51] <Stormx2> n1xt3r: OK
[11:51] <max> but he says that version is the mostly recent
[11:51] <nicholaspaul> yes dak
[11:51] <CaBlGuY> hey runedude  o/
[11:52] <phinnaeus> does anyone know of a graphing caluculator for ubuntu?
[11:52] <andi5> n1xt3r: you mean 2? ;-) btw, do you know how much manpower they really invest?
[11:52] <runedude_> i just put a line like : "/dev/sda2 /mnt/windows ntfs ro,users 0 0" into my /etc/fstab, but users still cannot access the harddrive.
[11:52] <Stormx2> n1xt3r: But then how does it set the variable?
[11:52] <nicholaspaul> phinnaeus: http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Scientific/Statistics_and_Graphing/index.shtml
[11:52] <kevogod> ompaul, I wasn't being serious.
[11:52] <cafuego> DjKritical: 5901 isn't dynamic ;-)
[11:52] <hav0k> "Nick_Hill" like this?
[11:52] <dak> thanx.
[11:52] <ompaul> kevogod, ahhhhhhh
[11:52] <DjKritical> cafuego, what?
[11:52] <phinnaeus> thanks nicholoaspaul
[11:52] <axelmarquette> cafuego: i've managed 3d acceleration and gaming on fedora, i think it would be easy to get going under ubuntu also,
[11:52] <trappist> phinnaeus: apt-cache search graphing calculator
[11:52] <delire> runedude_ did you umount and then mount it again?
[11:52] <andi5> runedude_: users simply allows users to mount the drive, rather add umask=000 or such
[11:52] <n1xt3r> Stormx2: with read -p '... ? ' response
[11:52] <k31th> yo
[11:52] <nicholaspaul> yw phinnaeus
[11:52] <runedude_> yep, delire
[11:52] <CaBlGuY> runedude,  I'm assuming u read the wiki on mounting windows partisionts right?
[11:52] <axelmarquette> cafuego: unless u tell me theres a special issue
[11:52] <runedude_> oh
[11:52] <Stormx2> n1xt3r: k
[11:52] <DjKritical> cafuego, I just mean that I can't map port 5900 to port 5901 on the router
[11:53] <haggren> JDahl: I realize that... and that is actually also the reason a havent switched over before
[11:53] <k31th> downloading ubuntu breezy now :D
[11:53] <Nick_Hill> hav0k, That works. Although you don't need to use quotes. Which chat program do you use?
[11:53] <haggren> JDahl: now im trying again
[11:53] <cafuego> DjKritical: d'oh!
[11:53] <runedude_> ah
[11:53] <runedude_> that works
[11:53] <Sanne> runedude: it's "user" in my fstab, not "users"
[11:53] <runedude_> thank you :)
[11:53] <runedude_> Sanne, users is for all users
[11:53] <k31th> ubuntu is really buzzing now :D
[11:53] <max> cafuego i already got that
[11:53] <endra> so guys should I use 64bit or 32bit I really need to know :-/
[11:53] <runedude_> user is for 1 i think
[11:53] <max> now what?
[11:53] <hav0k> x-chat
[11:53] <andi5> Sanne: iirc both mean different things
[11:53] <jrattner1> Im trying to get amarok to work in gnome, im using the output  engine Gstreamer Engine, and using the output plugin alsa....any ideas why it wont work
[11:53] <runedude_> anyways, i got it working
[11:53] <Sanne> runedude_ ah ok, didn't know that
[11:53] <runedude_> thanks all
[11:53] <cafuego> axelmarquette: it's improvdes as of late, I just went nvidia because when I got my amd64, ati did not support it (at all).
[11:53] <GNeRaL> hello
[11:53] <Stormx2> n1xt3r: :( working even less
[11:54] <GNeRaL> when i type apt-get i receiving this error: http://pastebin.com/415383
[11:54] <cafuego> axelmarquette: ATI performance still isn't great, but it _does_ work.
[11:54] <Nick_Hill> hav0k, Try typing Nick_ then press tab. See what happens
[11:54] <GNeRaL> why ? :|
[11:54] <stylish> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.12-9-386 | Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz 2399.844 MHz | Mem: 170/507M [||||||||||]  | Diskspace: 43G Free: 36G | Bogomips: 4751.36 | Screen Res: 1024x768 | Procs: 65 |   | Up:  | eth0: In: 0.00M Out: 0.00M
[11:54] <axelmarquette> cafuego: well ill give it a go and see
[11:54] <hav0k> Nick_Hill, ahh
[11:54] <Stormx2> n1xt3r:   read -p "Rename $old to $new? (y/n) > " renameit
[11:54] <cafuego> axelmarquette: Grab the LiveCD and test it, if you want to.
[11:54] <hav0k> Nick_Hill, yeah, i never figured that out
[11:54] <cafuego> stylish: Thank you for not doing that.
[11:54] <Nick_Hill> hav0k, Auto-completion, like bash provides on the command line.
[11:54] <JDahl> phinnaeus, do you just need simple calculations and plots? Python with the extra matplotlib package is good for that (and easy to learn)
[11:55] <k31th> any UK people here ?
[11:55] <nick_> huh, Nick_Hill ?
[11:55] <ompaul> !uk
[11:55] <ubotu> ompaul: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[11:55] <nick_> :D
[11:55] <axelmarquette> cafuego: does it have all the drivers ?
[11:55] <cafuego> axelmarquette: it should, yes.
[11:55] <hav0k> Nick_Hill, cool
[11:55] <stylish> wheres all the gurus
[11:55] <n1xt3r> Stormx2: try debugging with 'bash -xv ./scriptname'
[11:55] <ailean> woohoo - dropshadows are go
[11:55] <axelmarquette> cafuego: ok ill do that, thx
[11:55] <ompaul> !gb
[11:55] <ubotu> No idea, ompaul
[11:55] <eedge> how do you use samba.
[11:55] <nick_> hav0k, Or press Nick and press tab twice. I'd be before him in the tab cycle because this name is higher in the alphabetical order
[11:55] <jrattner1> How can i configure the gstreamer engine
[11:56] <Stormx2> n1xt3r: k
[11:56] <ompaul> k31th, guess you get to talk to all the world then :-)
[11:56] <nick_> hav0k, depending on your IRC client
[11:56] <andi5> Stormx2: debugging scripts is much easier when you add "set -x" somewhere at the beginning (maybe that is the same as n1xt3r said, dunno)
[11:56] <hav0k> oh
[11:56] <k31th> ompaul: :D
[11:56] <GNeRaL> :(
[11:56] <ompaul> k31th, ask and see if we have the answer for you
[11:56] <hav0k> nick_,  yeah, there's a few i guess
[11:56] <Nick_Hill> nick_, you saw my message to hav0k about nick completion in Xchat. You can also bring up previous messages you sent by using up arrow.But this is getting OT now.
[11:56] <k31th> ompaul: no questions :D im just here to help atm untill i break some thing :D
[11:57] <k31th> cant wait to install breezy
[11:57] <hav0k> i gotta get this printer working so i can print off this paper ive got to turn in tonight
[11:57] <ompaul> k31th, do it today
[11:57] <k31th> its downloading :D
[11:57] <test34> Bug? -> for example, if you have the mouse pointer over the search button of Synaptic while it loads, you can't click on it unless you move the mouse pointer out of the button area and then move it back
[11:57] <ompaul> or tomorrow if you still have to download it
[11:57] <k31th> 12% @ 240k/s
[11:57] <k31th> ompaul: ill wait up
[11:57] <ompaul> k31th,  a debate
[11:58] <k31th> i need to get CentOS off this box
[11:58] <DjKritical> Does anyone know how to change the port that VNC uses? I have 2 pcs here behind a router with port forwarding setup and they need to use different ports...
[11:58] <andi5> test34: does not sound like a bug to me...
[11:58] <stylish> k31th : what the hell is CentOS
[11:58] <ompaul> k31th, go to #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[11:58] <k31th> stylish: its like Free RHE
[11:58] <stylish> k31th : realy
[11:58] <k31th> ompaul:  k
[11:58] <Stormx2> n1xt3r: The problem is that its reading it wrong. Firstly, its not pausing at the "echo -n" bit, secondly its reading from a pervious echo statement/variable
[11:59] <k31th> stylish: chat in offtopic ?
[11:59] <andi5> Stormx2: did you paste in somewhere?
[11:59] <stylish> say what
[11:59] <Stormx2> andi5: Hang on
[11:59] <max> how can i log in to reboot ??
[12:00] <Stormx2> andi5: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3995