[12:11] <mhz> moin there
[12:12] <mhz> ogra: r u available?
[12:12] <mhz> JaneW: r u available?
[02:23] <signifer123> wow people talk so much in here...
[02:37] <mhz_BBS> pitux: ping
[02:37] <pitux> hello
[02:37] <mhz_BBS> pitux: tienes los datos de luis?
[02:37] <pitux> que datos
[02:37] <mhz_BBS> mail y telefonos?
[02:37] <pitux> quieres saber su estado civil?
[02:37] <mhz_BBS> heheh
[02:39] <pitux> te los envie en un privado
[02:42] <pitux> ping: mhz_BBS
[02:42] <mhz> ya
[07:42] <Pygi> Hello :)
[07:48] <juliux> hi
[07:48] <Pygi> I was interested if someone may point me to a person I should report to, if I want to help develop Edubuntu
[07:49] <juliux> Pygi, than you should wait until ogra is here
[07:49] <Pygi> oh, main developer or?
[07:51] <juliux> yes
[07:51] <Pygi> ok
[07:52] <Pygi> I'll wait
[07:53] <Pygi> thanks for your help
[07:53] <juliux> np
[09:20] <DarthTode> hi there
[09:20] <Pygi> Hi
[09:21] <DarthTode> anyone knows where to find information regarding Linux in Education (for example xx% of schools in x country use Linux, etc) ?
[09:22] <Pygi> It seems only me talks, and I know how much schools uses Linux in my country because I implemented it :P
[09:22] <Pygi> I don't know any stats where you might find :/
[09:23] <jsgotangco> its pretty hard to actually get one unless a local government releases data
[09:23] <DarthTode> damn...
[09:23] <Pygi> yup
[09:24] <jsgotangco> unless you're in spain, you'll probably be hard pressed to get actualy usage data
[09:24] <DarthTode> actually I need exact data to convince my company to release a driver for Linux
[09:24] <Pygi> driver for what?
[09:24] <DarthTode> interactive whiteboard
[09:24] <jsgotangco> wow
[09:24] <DarthTode> very fashion in schools
[09:24] <jsgotangco> that would be awesome
[09:24] <DarthTode> yeah !!
[09:24] <Pygi> will do a marketing campaign :)
[09:25] <DarthTode> i'm the product manager for France
[09:25] <DarthTode> in France we use a lot Linux in schools
[09:25] <DarthTode> but impossible to get those bloody exact data
[09:25] <DarthTode> Pygi --> where are you from?
[09:27] <DarthTode> Pygi --> oh, Croatia ;-)
[09:27] <DarthTode> I remembered a match between France and Croatia, few years ago, in the World Cup... anyway ;-)
[09:28] <Pygi> I remember the match too :)
[09:29] <Pygi> In Croatia there are like 10 computers in entire school system, and it's some extra group in a gymnasium in Osijek I think...
[09:30] <Pygi> In here goverment is not very friendly toward Linux :P
[09:31] <jsgotangco> 10 computers?
[09:31] <Pygi> yup :/
[09:32] <DarthTode> Pygi --> what a match... ;-)
[09:32] <Pygi> I meant computers with Linux :P
[09:32] <DarthTode> Pygi --> wow... only 10... what a pity...
[09:32] <Pygi> Only Linux :P
[09:32] <Pygi> Well, I know...
[09:32] <Pygi> We are now working on trying to improve it...
[09:32] <DarthTode> jsgotangco --> come and see what beautiful country it is :-)
[09:32] <jsgotangco> DarthTode, yeah hopefully
[09:33] <Pygi> I am co-founder of ubuntu-hr team, and coordinator of local Linux community (a little while ago I became one)...
[09:33] <jsgotangco> i have a friend in paris though...
[09:33] <Pygi> so now things are going good for us :)
[09:33] <Pygi> that's one of the reasons why I wanna help develop Edubuntu 
[09:34] <jsgotangco> Pygi, sure we'll need all the help we can get
[09:35] <jsgotangco> Pygi, what exactly? packages?
[09:35] <jsgotangco> Pygi, remember Edubuntu is bsaed on ubuntu
[09:35] <Pygi> whatever it needs :P Yes, I know that it's based on Ubuntu
[09:36] <DarthTode> Ubuntu and of course Edubuntu are really awesome
[09:36] <jsgotangco> Pygi, i said that because your coding/packaging skills can benefit the 3 projects instead of focusing on 1
[09:36] <DarthTode> I love that distribution
[09:36] <DarthTode> Pygi --> it's really cool to be a co-funder !!
[09:37] <Pygi> Yup, but I don't know who to talk to to become Ubuntu developer :P
[09:37] <jsgotangco> Pygi, go to #ubuntu-motu
[09:37] <DarthTode> jsgotangco --> a friend of mine is from Philippines, he was always the best in english lesson at school... ;-)
[09:37] <jsgotangco> you can start by contributing to Universe
[09:38] <jsgotangco> DarthTode, we're pretty good in english
[09:38] <Pygi> kk, will do for now :)
[09:39] <DarthTode> jsgotangco --> I know !!! ;-)
[09:39] <jsgotangco> DarthTode, where are you located?
[09:40] <jsgotangco> DarthTode, there was a query before in the list early in the Edubuntu development cycle about support for electronic white boards...
[09:40] <jsgotangco> unfortunately, we don't have open source drivers for those...
[09:40] <DarthTode> yeah
[09:41] <DarthTode> actually I'd like to get info as I told you, to be able to develop an opensource driver for our boards
[09:41] <DarthTode> I'm from Paris, France :-)
[09:42] <jsgotangco> oh are the teen riots ended?
[09:44] <DarthTode> oh my... not really
[09:46] <DarthTode> last night, cars were burning, and it seems young people shoot with real bullets on the police... amazing...
[09:46] <DarthTode> :-(
[09:47] <jsgotangco> wow
[09:47] <jsgotangco> i saw it on the news last night...
[09:47] <jsgotangco> things like that don't happen over here, so it can be scary for me
[09:49] <DarthTode> actually it's because of two young who died because they were chased by the police
[09:50] <DarthTode> two from "da hood"
[09:50] <jsgotangco> gang wars
[09:50] <DarthTode> so the others went crazy...
[09:50] <jsgotangco> we don't get riots like that over here
[09:51] <jsgotangco> we do have loose firearms in the city, but people aren't stupid to fight the cops because most of them are armed with automatic rifles
[09:51] <jsgotangco> even if i have a gun, i don't stand a chance with an M16
[09:58] <DarthTode> yeah, u right
[09:58] <jsgotangco> well i gotta go
[09:58] <jsgotangco> i'm gonna pick up my wife
[09:58] <jsgotangco> see you later
[09:58] <DarthTode> but cops can't just shoot people like that in France, we're not american...
[09:58] <jsgotangco> (nice talking to you too)
[09:58] <DarthTode> see ya mate
[09:59] <DarthTode> yeah, nice :-)
[10:38] <weasl77> ntu
[10:40] <Pygi> back :)
[10:40] <Pygi> back :)
[10:41] <Pygi> back :)
[11:27] <mhz> morning
[12:38] <Pygi> Welcome :)
[02:32] <juliux> re
[02:33] <zakame> hi all
[02:52] <juliux> hi ogra 
[03:01] <ogra> juliux, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/edubuntu_talk.pdf
[03:01] <ogra> morning
[03:02] <juliux> ogra, nice
[03:02] <juliux> ogra, http://www.juliux.de/linux/edubuntuwork1.odt
[07:39] <lemoncake> hi
[07:39] <lemoncake> i need help
[07:39] <lemoncake> whit the installation of edubuntu
[07:39] <lemoncake> who can help me?
[07:41] <juliux> lemoncake, ask and wait
[07:41] <lemoncake> ok
[07:41] <lemoncake> when i install edubuntu on my pc...in installation it doesn't ask me for the root password
[07:41] <lemoncake> now
[07:41] <lemoncake> i need to install a package
[07:41] <juliux> there is no root account
[07:41] <lemoncake> with dpgk
[07:42] <juliux> ubuntu and edubuntu use sudo
[07:42] <lemoncake> ok
[07:42] <juliux> the user you have creat by the installation can make everything via sudo
[07:42] <lemoncake> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[07:42] <lemoncake> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[07:42] <lemoncake>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[07:42] <lemoncake> mm
[07:42] <lemoncake> when i write "sudo" in terminal
[07:43] <lemoncake> in terminal appear this
[07:43] <lemoncake> if i want to install a package with dpkg 
[07:43] <lemoncake> how can i do this?
[07:43] <juliux> sudo <the programm you want to use with root rights
[07:43] <lemoncake> so
[07:43] <lemoncake> sudo dpkg?
[07:43] <juliux> f.e. sudo dpkg -i ltsp.deb
[07:47] <lemoncake> when i write in the terminal example: sudo dpkg -i NeroLinux.deb it ask to me the password...i write it..then i say that other process have the lock of the database
[07:47] <lemoncake> :??
[07:48] <lemoncake> ehm the it
[07:48] <lemoncake> excuse me
[07:48] <lemoncake> then it say that other process have the lock of the database
[07:48] <smi|e> can i install edubuntu-desktop?
[07:48] <smi|e> on ubuntu
[07:50] <lemoncake> juliux are you online??
[07:50] <lemoncake> it's an emergency because i need to install some packages
[07:51] <smi|e> lemoncake: whats the matter?
[07:51] <lemoncake> mmm read up
[07:53] <highvoltage> smi|e: yes, you can
[07:53] <smi|e> lemoncake: you want too install a package right?
[07:53] <smi|e> lemoncake: whats the package called
[07:53] <highvoltage> lemoncake: if it says other processes have locked the database, you probably have synaptic or aptitude open somewhere
[07:54] <highvoltage> you need to close them first before you can use dpkg or apt
[07:54] <smi|e> highvoltage: know any wicked programs i should install on ubuntu
[07:56] <highvoltage> smi|e: many :)
[07:56] <smi|e> highvoltage: give me a list ;)
[07:56] <highvoltage> amarok is a nice mp3 / ogg player
[07:56] <highvoltage> mplayer-686 is my favourite video player
[07:56] <smi|e> got them ;)
[07:56] <highvoltage> quanta is my favoutire html editor
[07:56] <highvoltage> kuickshow is my favourite image viewer
[07:57] <highvoltage> liferea is a very nice RSS feed reader
[07:57] <smi|e> k
[07:58] <smi|e> whats a rss feed reader for?
[07:59] <highvoltage> it's like an email reader, it "finds" changes in blogs and on news sites such as slashdot,
[07:59] <smi|e> k
[07:59] <highvoltage> then it compiles it for you. you can stay up to date very easily.
[07:59] <highvoltage> you want games too?
[07:59] <highvoltage> supertux is like mario bros. very nice.
[07:59] <highvoltage> armagetron is a nice 3d game. so is tuxracer.
[08:00] <highvoltage> i should compile a list from my big pc. lots of nice stuff installed there. i'm now on laptop, mostly work stuff here.
[08:05] <lemoncake> excuse me 
[08:05] <lemoncake> i have a lan
[08:05] <lemoncake> with  a computer that have windows xp
[08:05] <lemoncake> and this computer that have edubuntu 5.10
[08:05] <lemoncake> i want to have access to shared folder by windows xp from this computer
[08:06] <lemoncake> how can i do this??
[08:06] <highvoltage> how do you want to share it, do you need to protect it?
[08:07] <highvoltage> you have several options.
[08:07] <lemoncake> no
[08:07] <lemoncake> i have shared some folders in windows xp
[08:07] <highvoltage> edubuntu is running a web server, so you could share it through that. 
[08:07] <lemoncake> no
[08:07] <highvoltage> oh, if you want to share both ways, samba is your best bet.
[08:07] <lemoncake> ok
[08:07] <highvoltage> apt-get install samba
[08:07] <lemoncake> ok 
[08:07] <lemoncake> i have installed samba yet
[08:07] <highvoltage> i think you can do it in gui, but i only know text mode
[08:08] <lemoncake> mm
[08:08] <lemoncake> ok
[08:08] <highvoltage> once samba is installed, you edit /etc/smb/samba.conf
[08:08] <highvoltage> then you change security = user to security = share
[08:08] <highvoltage> then you add (to the end of the config)
[08:08] <highvoltage> [sharename] 
[08:08] <highvoltage>   path = /path/to/stuff/you/want/to/share
[08:08] <highvoltage>   public = yes
[08:08] <highvoltage>   writable = no
[08:09] <highvoltage>   browsable = yes
[08:09] <highvoltage> this will create a share that you can access from windows called "sharename"
[08:09] <highvoltage> windows users will be able to access this, but not write it. change writable to yes to change this.
[08:09] <highvoltage> brb
[08:11] <lemoncake> i can't modify it 
[08:11] <lemoncake> with gedit
[08:11] <lemoncake> when i push backspace it does do nothing
[08:12] <lemoncake> *doesn't
[08:13] <highvoltage> probably because you don't currently have permissions
[08:13] <highvoltage> hold on...
[08:14] <highvoltage> press alt+f2, then type gksudo gedit
[08:14] <highvoltage> enter your password and press enter
[08:14] <highvoltage> you will then be able to open smb.conf and edit away
[08:14] <lemoncake> ok
[08:40] <highvoltage> edoo: ping
[08:40] <edoo> highvoltage: what?
[08:40] <highvoltage> edoo: ping is <reply> pong
[08:40] <edoo> highvoltage: 
[08:40] <highvoltage> edoo: ping
[08:40] <edoo> highvoltage: sorry...
[08:40] <highvoltage> hmmm..
[08:41] <enyc> high: ping
[08:41] <enyc> high: ping  seq 1
[08:41] <enyc> high: ping  seq 2
[08:41] <enyc> high: ping  seq 3
[08:41] <enyc> hmm 100% packet loss ;-(
[08:47] <highvoltage> edoo: ping
[08:47] <edoo> pong
[08:48] <highvoltage> enyc: :)
[09:00] <signifer123> hey ya'll
[09:00] <juliux> hi signifer123 
[09:01] <highvoltage> hi signifer123 
[09:01] <signifer123> anyone here successfully covnerted a windows school to linux?
[09:01] <highvoltage> i've converted many :)
[09:02] <signifer123> complete ms?
[09:02] <signifer123> did you find a useful repalce ment ofr integrade or novell
[09:02] <signifer123> netware*
[09:03] <signifer123> or wouldi have to write a integrade replacement
[09:05] <enyc> where is high ?
[09:07] <signifer123> huh?
[09:07] <signifer123> USA?
[09:08] <highvoltage> sorry, friend just came to visit.
[09:08] <highvoltage> this is in RSA
[09:08] <highvoltage> (south africa)
[09:09] <highvoltage> the labs here didn't have netware.
[09:09] <signifer123> :-P
[09:09] <highvoltage> which made it easy.
[09:09] <signifer123> figures
[09:09] <highvoltage> most of the windows labs were unmaintained, and falling apart.
[09:09] <signifer123> any advice anywho?
[09:09] <highvoltage> these schools embraced linux because with it they got a community, something they never had with their windows labs.
[09:10] <signifer123> dang it....
[09:11] <highvoltage> signifer123: what are you thinking of doing?
[09:12] <signifer123> jsut tryingot get school system to move ot linux
[09:12] <signifer123> edubuntu :-P
[09:12] <highvoltage> which school system? are you an educator?
[09:13] <signifer123> CCPS http://www.carrollk12.org
[09:13] <signifer123> not an educator
[09:13] <signifer123> student :-p
[09:13] <signifer123> the onyl main reason i could show them for switching really is security
[09:14] <highvoltage> :)
[09:14] <signifer123> what?
[09:15] <highvoltage> hi thomas
[09:15] <highvoltage> i think it's excellent that a student is lobbying for linux at school.
[09:15] <signifer123> lol, you an educator?
[09:16] <signifer123> or admin?
[09:16] <signifer123> ohh well i'll need help so i'll pop on..and ask alot of Q's
[09:17] <highvoltage> pop in any time.
[09:17] <highvoltage> also feel free to join the edubuntu-devel mailing list on http://lists.ubuntu.com
[09:17] <highvoltage> i'm the technical co-ordinator at tsf.org.za
[09:18] <signifer123> well that makes it alot easier for you
[09:19] <highvoltage> makes what easier?
[09:19] <signifer123> convincing the switch :-p
[09:19] <signifer123> tech leader :-p
[09:20] <signifer123> so you know of any linux netwares?
[09:22] <highvoltage> i think there's a client in universe, but i haven't used it yet.
[09:23] <signifer123> well i'll jsut see if wine cna run it...
[09:24] <signifer123> brb jumping into edubuntu
[09:24] <Signifer123> back
[09:27] <Signifer123> do you gyus plan on making themes for gnome and firefox etc...
[09:30] <highvoltage> what kind of themes?
[09:31] <Signifer123> like i guess something laong the lines of what happened to the icons
[09:32] <highvoltage> yes. it's likely that future versions of edubuntu will have different themes.
[09:32] <highvoltage> some which are more appropriate for university, etc.
[09:33] <Signifer123> k cool
[09:40] <Signifer123> fun...
[09:42] <Signifer123> to edit icons owuldi ahve to compile it again?
[09:42] <Signifer123> nautilus
[09:43] <highvoltage> nope.
[09:43] <highvoltage> most icons are stored in /usr/share/icons
[09:43] <highvoltage> you can simply replace the icons with other .png files if you want to change it for yourself.
[09:44] <highvoltage> if you want to submit it to edubuntu, there might be a bit more work envolved, but we could find someone else to do it too.
[09:45] <Signifer123> k
[09:45] <Signifer123> does that include all apps like firefox is in there?
[09:46] <highvoltage> in the gartoon theme, yes.
[09:46] <highvoltage> some themes does not have all the icons, so it will fall back to a default.
[09:46] <Signifer123> ok will other apps put thier icon in there too?
[09:47] <Signifer123> like if i install glade
[09:49] <highvoltage> glade seems to get it's icon there too.
[09:49] <Signifer123> k
[09:49] <highvoltage> are you on an ubuntu / edubuntu box right now?
[09:49] <Signifer123> i'm on ubuntu with a vmwared edubuntu
[09:50] <highvoltage> ok. check the /usr/share/icons/gartoon
[09:50] <highvoltage> directory
[09:50] <highvoltage> you'll see how it works there
[09:50] <Signifer123> yeah i see
[09:51] <Signifer123> can gimp edit svg?
[09:51] <Signifer123> apperntly not nvm
[09:52] <highvoltage> nope
[09:53] <highvoltage> use inkscape for .svg
[09:53] <Signifer123> it synaptic won't isntall it :-p
[09:53] <Signifer123> dependency errors
[09:54] <highvoltage> strange
[09:55] <bluefrog-10> hi highvoltage, by chance do you know how to find by command line in terminal if a ther's a lock on a file pls?
[09:56] <highvoltage> what kind of lock?
[09:56] <highvoltage> linux doesn't have locks on files like windows does.
[09:56] <highvoltage> if you want to know which processes is using a file, you can use lsof
[09:56] <highvoltage> ex: lsof /dev/cdrom
[09:56] <bluefrog-10> sry it's the other way i want.. i explain
[09:57] <highvoltage> if it's firefox which has a lock file, it will be in the ~/.mozilla-firefox/profile/xxxxxx dir
[09:57] <highvoltage> openoffice in ~/.openoffice/lock (iirc)
[09:57] <highvoltage> some of the daemons store lock files in /var/run
[09:58] <highvoltage> but file locking per se does not exist in linux, linux is over that.
[09:58] <bluefrog-10> while doing apt-get update it's trying to lock /var/lib/dpkg/,
[09:58] <highvoltage> bluefrog-10: do you have synaptic or aptidute open?
[09:58] <bluefrog-10> and if synaptic is open it's stating that it can't do it
[09:58] <bluefrog-10> am wrting a script to automate the install of samba-ldap
[09:58] <highvoltage> yes, synaptic puts a lock file in /var/cache/apt/packages
[09:59] <highvoltage> and if dpkg sees it there, it refuses to do anything
[09:59] <highvoltage> exiting synaptic is the correct thing to do before running dpkg
[09:59] <enyc> moo de beep
[09:59] <bluefrog-10> and i'd like to have a function which looks if apt-get will be able to lock the dir
[09:59] <enyc> err i dont have the edubuntu box atm...
[09:59] <enyc> erm
[10:00] <bluefrog-10> so in my function I was wondering if there is a way to check by command line if a lock can be put on the dir
[10:00] <enyc> sombody woth an onstalled edubuntu....  please run 'tuxpaint'  ** using the menu entry ** -- applications >  etc...
[10:01] <highvoltage> enyc: moo to you too
[10:01] <enyc> does the sound work [you should hear a sound when tuxpaint finishes loading icons etc.] 
[10:01] <highvoltage> bluefrog-10: a lock can't be put on a dir
[10:01] <bluefrog-10> k ty
[10:01] <enyc> ?
[10:02] <highvoltage> apt-get moo
[10:02] <enyc> '''...."Have you mooed today?"...''
[10:02] <enyc> indeed
[10:04] <highvoltage> enyc: sorry, what did you suggest?
[10:04] <bluefrog-10> highvoltage, i found out what i had difficulty to express... I nedd to check if there is a lock file in the dir...
[10:04] <highvoltage> ah
[10:04] <bluefrog-10> i solved my problem
[10:05] <highvoltage> ok
[10:05] <bluefrog-10> i tink
[10:05] <bluefrog-10> no wrong, oh well, i'll find out..
[10:05] <enyc> sombody woth an onstalled edubuntu....  please run 'tuxpaint'  **using the menu entry ** -- applications >  etc... does the sound work [you should hear a sound when tuxpaint finishes loading icons etc.]   ??
[10:06] <highvoltage> enyc: yes, mine works, although i don't have a standard edubuntu installation
[10:06] <enyc> hmmm
[10:06] <enyc> kk
[10:06] <highvoltage> enyc: is this on thin client or full machine?
[10:07] <enyc> ''workstation' install ;-)
[10:08] <Signifer123> mine runs fine
[10:08] <enyc> though i origonally saw the problem on a ubunut breezy box changed to edubuntu
[10:09] <enyc> seemed that starting tuxpaint FROM the menu seemed to result in it not-working....
[10:09] <enyc> [no sound] 
[10:09] <enyc> under the usual  esd etc.
[10:12] <Signifer123> you mean jsut going App>Graphics>Tux Paint
[10:12] <Signifer123> works great for me...
[10:12] <Signifer123> or terminal
[10:21] <enyc> hmm ok
[10:21] <enyc> odd
[10:21] <Signifer123> you use dvd?
[10:21] <Signifer123> i used the cd to install
[10:22] <enyc> i had/have a situation where sound not work when startet from menu
[10:25] <enyc> but thats on a ubuntu >> edubuntu   migrated...
[10:25] <enyc> i.e. 'apt-get isntall edubuntu-base'
[10:25] <enyc> how_confusing
[10:27] <Signifer123> :-p
[10:27] <enyc> i dont have the udubuntu-box about
[10:27] <Signifer123> lol
[10:27] <enyc> its out in a nursery place ;p
[10:28] <enyc> err edubuntu-box even
[10:32] <bluefrog-10> highvoltage, ty for the lsof, had to read again what u wrote me eralier to see that i missed this crucial information for me... :)
[10:57] <DaSkreech> Hello
[10:58] <DaSkreech> Can I install edubuntu on top of ubuntu base?
[11:01] <DaSkreech> Or rather if I installed ubuntu-minimal could I install edubuntu-desktop and get the same as a default install of Edubuntu?
[11:02] <bluefrog-10> I believe that if you apt-get install edubuntu-desktop edubuntu-server, you will obtain what you want, but am not 100% sure
[11:03] <DaSkreech> Right
[11:03] <DaSkreech> But this is a school so I'd rather not have anything I don't need to have
[11:04] <DaSkreech> Also it seems that edubuntu does a LTSP install on install would edubuntu-desktop or server take care of that from apt-get?
[11:04] <bluefrog-10> edubuntu-server will tell you about depencies
[11:04] <bluefrog-10> dependencies
[11:06] <DaSkreech> Ok So the method is to install ubuntu breezy minimal or base and then apt-get edubuntu-desktop and server
[11:07] <bluefrog-10> the best thing is to install from edubuntu install cd
[11:07] <DaSkreech> The compuetr won't allow it
[11:07] <DaSkreech> computer
[11:07] <bluefrog-10> explain
[11:09] <DaSkreech> I can't
[11:09] <DaSkreech> It reaches a section of install where it stops and says the computer ran out of space installing to /var
[11:09] <DaSkreech> the computer has 30 Gb free
[11:10] <DaSkreech> If I go to terminal 2 a df shows that everything except the CDrom has at most 33% used
[11:11] <bluefrog-10> have u checked the md5sum of the iso?, verify the cd in itself, to do that i think you can type expert at boot and then there should be a "verify cd" option
[11:11] <signifer123> that is werid...i installed it on a 4 gig hd
[11:11] <DaSkreech> I used the same CD to install to 3 other machines
[11:11] <DaSkreech> and I've used multiple CDs they all throw an error at teh same palce
[11:12] <DaSkreech> I would suspect the Cdrom drive but Xandros is installed and the same thing happens
[11:13] <DaSkreech> it boots up till a certain section then freezes
[11:13] <DaSkreech> So i installed Ubuntu and it works fine
[11:14] <DaSkreech> So I'm going to install ubuntu-base or minimal and apt-get edubuntu
[11:14] <bluefrog-10> ok
[11:15] <signifer123> do you guys have other themes for icons and such other than elementary school style?
[11:45] <signifer123> guess..not?