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Nick_Hillmax, ctrl+alt+delete causes reboot from command prompt12:00
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Nick_Hillmax or log-in screen12:00
Nick_Hillmax, er, console log-in screen12:00
aileanmy screen is maximising to cover the taskbar . . . anyone know how to stop that?12:01
ompaulstylish what he said was /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat12:01
ThePyromaniachow can i downgrade 64-bit breezy to 32 bit?12:01
mc|ambhow do I acces a computer in my LAN?12:01
cafuegoThePyromaniac: wipe, reinstall.12:01
bob2ThePyromaniac: by reinstalling12:01
ThePyromaniacnooooooooooooo12:01
andi5Stormx2: stupid question, what is the stdin of the while loop? the output of the prior commands or the input of your bash?12:01
bob2ThePyromaniac: assuming you mean "amd64 to i386"12:01
ThePyromaniacyes12:01
hav0kwell, thanks, gotta go12:01
bob2ThePyromaniac: same way you'd convert a hard disk from ubuntu ppc to ubuntu ia-6412:01
cafuegoThePyromaniac: It won't take long coz you put /home on a separate partition, right/ ;-)12:01
ThePyromaniacwell that sucks, lol12:01
test34andi5, does it act the same with you12:01
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ThePyromaniacright i did. but it takes long cause i must download new image! hehe12:02
Nick_Hillmc|amb, there are many ways to access a computer on the LAN. Are you wanting to copy files, use it as an internet gateway, or mount a file system?12:02
Stormx2andi5: stdin?12:02
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cafuego<heh>12:02
dennis999?12:02
andi5Stormx2: the input read reads from :) (standard input)12:02
cafuegoThePyromaniac: It can do that overnight, without any user input.12:02
Stormx2andi5: The while loop is looping through the directories in the current directory12:02
jrattner1Anyone know how to configure gstreamer...the source part wont work12:02
andi5Stormx2: yes, first you read the directory, then you try to read from the user... this cannot work12:03
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Stormx2andi5: it can't?12:03
andi5Stormx2: not that way :)12:03
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Nick_Hillmc|amb, Also, what type of computer are you wanting to access?12:03
ThePyromaniaccafego ok thanks, i will wait till my collection of various format pressed CD's arrive. good to know thats theo nly way ^-^12:03
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Stormx2andi5: Why not. i want it to loop through the directory, and if interactive mode is on, ask whether it should rename things or not. This is not possible?12:04
mc|ambNick_Hill: I just want to access the files in the other computer. can you help me12:04
bob2of course it's possible12:04
Nick_Hillmc|amb, What type of computer is the other machine?12:04
cafuegoThePyromaniac: Well, you MIGHT be able to do a debootstap, but 100/1 that will end in tears. At least you can _use_ the system atm.12:04
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mc|ambNick_Hill: a simple desktop computer12:04
ThePyromaniacyes, i only dont like cause a few drivers arent happy. i will wait :D12:04
Nick_Hillmc|amb, Mac, Windoze, GNU/Linux, BSD12:04
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mc|ambNick_Hill: o sorry , windows12:05
ThePyromaniacback to my origional question, any Linux HTPC users out there?12:05
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cafuegohtpc?12:05
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bob2ugh, 7000 messages in my inboc takes forever to open12:05
Nick_Hillmc|amb, Are both computers connected to the same LAN, and able to connect to the internet?12:05
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cafuegobob2: Time to sell the P233 mmx.12:05
ThePyromaniacHome Theatre12:05
ThePyromaniaclike Windows Media Center Edition12:06
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andi5Stormx2: you know how pipes work? do you have many directories? if not, try sth like: for dir in `find ....` ; do .... done12:06
HrdwrBoBThePyromaniac: yes12:06
ThePyromaniaci noticed a FEW clones for linux, wondered if any GOOD ones :D12:06
NoUseThePyromaniac I use knoppmyth12:06
mc|ambNick_Hill: they are both connected to my router, and both can access the internet12:06
ThePyromaniacnouse thanks i will google12:06
cafuegoThePyromaniac: I thought MythTV was the de facto standard12:06
ThePyromaniaci know a few but they all look shite12:06
ThePyromaniacMythTv looks TERRIBLE12:06
HrdwrBoBThePyromaniac: I use freevo12:06
ciancihi, can someone help me with ndiswrapper?12:06
maxhelp please12:06
cafuegoThePyromaniac: And WinXP doesn't? (heh)12:06
maxnow when i boot12:07
NoUseThePyromaniac what looks terrible about mythtv?12:07
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Fishyhi there, i want to start developing Java applications in my new Ubuntu install, whats the best way to get the JDK installed?12:07
cafuegoThePyromaniac: ANyway, LOOKS are easily customisable. Good is a function of functionality, different issue altogether.12:07
andi5Stormx2: there is always one file descriptor 0 (standard input), if you redirect that to something else, like the output of some command, you cannot read from stdin) - or you need to open a fd for that, no idea about that12:07
Nick_Hillmc|amb, Do you know whether the windows machine has file sharing enabled? If so, do you know the computer name, and username/password12:07
ciancii have "un tar" ndiswrapper1.5.tar.gz, now what do i do after that to install it?12:07
cafuego!java12:07
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb12:07
Fishythanks cafuego12:07
cafuegocianci: Nothing. Delete the files you downloaded.12:07
ThePyromaniaccafeugo i guess you are right ^-^12:07
maxit appears an blue screen saying that can't begin the X server (your grafic interface) it's probably that's incorrectly configured12:07
bob2cianci: why are you doing that?12:08
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NoUseThePyromaniac I use mythtv and i love it12:08
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cafuegocianci: Now, 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'12:08
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bob2cianci: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper12:08
mc|ambNick_Hill: i'll go and check, can we skip to the next step??12:08
ciancii need go get my Linksys WUSB54G wireless adapter to work for internet on ubuntu computer12:08
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maxplease help12:08
ThePyromaniacnouse, what template you got?12:09
bob2cianci: now, go read that wiki page12:09
ciancii am a little confused on that website bob2, i am kind of new with linux12:09
gnomefreakmax: what do you need help with?12:09
NoUseThePyromaniac you mean theme? Titivilus or whatever its called12:09
maxit appears an blue screen saying that can't begin the X server (your grafic interface) it's probably that's incorrectly configured12:09
ThePyromaniacok12:09
bob2cianci: which part of that page confuse you?12:09
cianciwhat do i do after i have it on the comptuer?12:09
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Nick_Hillmc|amb, Which version of Ubuntu are you using?12:09
bob2cianci: no, read that page12:09
bob2cianci: then tell u swhich bits, if any, confuse you12:09
mc|ambNick_Hill: 5.1012:09
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Madeyeguys, I have just apted enlightment, How to switch to it ?12:10
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cafuegocianci: ndiswrapper is pre-built for Ubuntu, install the packaged version. There is no need for tarballs or compiling.12:10
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SeveasMadeye, logout, choose enlightenment, login12:10
Madeyeah12:10
Madeyeokay12:10
ciancioh, ok, <cafugo12:10
Nick_Hillmc|amb, Easy; on the desktop menu places, select Connect to server.. then from the drop-down list, select Windows Share12:10
maxit appears an blue screen saying that can't begin the X server (your grafic interface) it's probably that's incorrectly configured12:11
Nick_Hillmc|amb, Put in details as it asks, click connect.12:11
runedude_hmm12:11
runedude_guys12:11
bob2max: please stop repeating12:11
runedude_any reason for wireless to drop out like.. every 10 minutes?12:11
bob2max: I'm sure it sucks for you, but asking once is plenty12:11
maxi really need help12:11
maxok ok12:11
bob2max: that's awesome12:11
bob2max: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:11
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mc|ambNick_Hill: ok12:11
Nick_Hillmc|amb, Or you can click browse network.12:11
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Nick_Hillmc|amb, from the same dialog12:12
cafuegorunedude_: That can happen with bad set-ups, yes.12:12
cafuegorunedude_: (or crap hardware)12:12
runedude_hmm12:12
gnomefreakgrrrrrrrr i hate clocks12:12
runedude_its a rather new card12:12
cafuegorunedude_: new != good12:12
runedude_:(12:13
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runedude_its a rt250012:13
mc|ambNick_Hill: one question: on Server: i've to put the ip adress right??12:13
gnomefreakis there a command to manully change clock time?12:13
glynI have 250MB of free space is there any way I could integrate this onto my Ubuntu drive?12:13
KyralStupid question12:13
Nick_Hillmc|amb, Either ip address or WINS name12:13
andi5gnomefreak: date ;)12:13
KyralHow do I take screenshots in XFCE?12:13
bob2gnomefreak: sure, date.12:13
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cafuegorealtek?12:13
mc|ambWINS name??12:13
gnomefreakty12:13
runedude_cafuego, no12:13
bob2glyn: not simply12:13
runedude_linksys12:13
faykenhi12:13
mc|ambNick_Hill: WINS name??12:13
HrdwrBoBglyn: possibly... are you that worried about 250mb that you'll risk breaking things?12:13
runedude_0000:03:03.0 Network controller: RaLink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card (rev 01)12:14
cafuegorunedude_: Is the access point set to renew dhcp leases every 600 seconds?12:14
Nick_Hillmc|amb, Name of the computer on the windows network12:14
ciancibob2, i am confused at this part of the website you gave me: Call "sudo ndiswrapper -i foobar.inf" where foobar.inf is the path to your inf-file (windows wireless-lan driver).12:14
runedude_cafuego, mmm i dont use dhcp12:14
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gnomefreakthat just tells me the time nad date i want to adjust it12:14
gnomefreakand*12:14
mc|ambNick_Hill: ok, thanks12:14
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maxbob2 yes... working but nnow identify de barrement of video hardware12:14
glynHrdwrBoB:Well I need over 500 MBs to install what I need to install and my partition is only 2G12:14
faykenanyone know how to install other programs on ubuntu besides default packages12:14
andi5gnomefreak: what about ntpdate? this is much easier :)12:14
glynHrdwrBoB:It would help if I had the 250 MB of free space12:14
cafuegorunedude_: Any chance it's going into power-save mode after 10 minutes?12:14
maxPCI:4:0:0 ?12:14
NoUsefayken you mean outside of synatpic?12:14
runedude_cafuego, hmm.. not sure12:14
runedude_it could be12:15
runedude_but i dont know how to check?12:15
runedude_oh wait, i set it to do "continous" mode12:15
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glynHrdwrBoB:And frequently I run out of space so much that I can't copy my xconfig file and I can't log in so I have to delete stuff in recovery mode12:15
faykennot sure i want to install a chat server from a website linux based12:15
DShepherdis it /join #ubuntu-offtopic?12:15
HrdwrBoBglyn: time for a new hard drive?12:15
gnomefreakandi5: no servers can be used now it said maybe same reason why i cant open the adjust clock from the clock12:15
runedude_but a simple ifdown and then ifup works, it fixes the problem, cafuego12:15
DShepherdyup...it is12:15
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cafuegorunedude_: Sounds like it drops the link; are you using a native driver?12:16
NoUsefayken search for chat servers in synaptic12:16
NoUse!tell fayken about synatpic12:16
NoUse!tell fayken about synaptic12:16
glynHdrwrBoB:I guess..I'd like to be able to compensate with what I've got though12:16
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moconnorIf I found a way for something to break, how do I report that bug or check if it exists?  bugzilla.ubuntu.com?12:16
HrdwrBoBglyn: well I'm sure we can get that 250mb12:16
HrdwrBoBglyn: but the price of a new (enourmous) hard drive is very little12:16
sorush20guys anyone here using Brother HL-2030, or not I just ant to know how easy it is to install and run?12:16
HrdwrBoBand will completely resolve any possible space problem you have12:17
runedude_yes12:17
runedude_im using the rt2500 driver from the ralink website12:17
faykenthis is a chatserver hosted i use it on windows xp simple to install but difficult on here12:17
runedude_cafuego, just happened again.12:17
glynHrdwrBoB:Yeah I could get one from my friend for free but he's out of town until Saturday so I'll probably get one then12:17
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NoUsefayken what is it caled?12:17
LoevborgHey guys. Does anyone know if there is somethin akin to "klipper", only natively gnomeish?12:17
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andi5gnomefreak: man date, no need some special format, similar to  date -s 200511030017, try to play around :)12:17
faykenthe palace a 2-d graphical chat12:17
runedude_btw, is there any special options for the kernel for Hyperthreading in a p4 processor?12:18
cafuegorunedude_: Yes.12:18
runedude_but, i really want wireless to NOT drop out!12:18
Loevborgrunedude, you can enable/disable hyperthreadding, and you'll need smp support I guess.12:18
cafuegorunedude_: Due to HT bugs, it's disabled. To enable it, recompile your kernel.12:18
glynHrdwrBoB:How would I go about getting that 250 MB?12:18
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runedude_ah12:19
runedude_nvm then12:19
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cafuegoYeah12:19
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NoUsefayken there is no release for Linux12:19
NoUsefayken oh I was looking at clients, hold on12:19
cafuegorunedude_: Hmmm...12:19
runedude_cafuego, so, any reasons why this shit is happening?12:19
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runedude_its so annoying :(12:19
axelmarquetterunedude_: have u tried latest wireless tools ?12:19
runedude_axelmarquette, ?12:20
axelmarquetterunedude_: i mean pre-release12:20
corincoleis anyone here good with openoffice spreadsheet?12:20
faykenthe palace we have a hosted one running on linux now would like to run it here12:20
gimmulfIs it stupid having 1 partition on 80gb?12:20
axelmarquetterunedude_: i use rt2500 too12:20
runedude_axelmarquette, you do?12:20
runedude_ndiswrapper or the native drivers?12:20
NoUsefayken I only see downloads for windows and mac12:20
axelmarquetterunedude_: yep12:20
corincoleanyone?12:20
corincolebit of general oo help...12:20
corincole:)12:20
cafuegorunedude_: This goes against everything I believe in, but perhaps give ndiswrapper a try. if that works fine, the problem is the Linux driver.12:20
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Agamottogimmulf:  Stupid, no.  Annoying, yes12:20
runedude_cafuego, hmm :(12:20
KinkoBlastHello! We jut got a new network printer- a Brother HL-2070N. It is connected directly to the network. Can it be set up for Linux?12:20
faykenhttp://practice.chatserve.com12:20
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runedude_i really do NOT want to get into the windows shit12:20
gimmulfAgamotto:  ok :)12:20
runedude_I want pure linux12:21
axelmarquetterunedude_: where did u get the drivers ?12:21
runedude_NO windows!12:21
andi5corincole: try to simply ask your question ;)12:21
runedude_axelmarquette, www.ralink.com12:21
runedude_or something12:21
AgamottoKinkoBlast:  That should be relatively easy12:21
faykenu'll see on down list the linux version12:21
Nick_Hillrunedude, 5.10 comes with 2500 driver12:21
axelmarquetterunedude_: maybe u should try a beta12:21
runedude_Nick_Hill, 5.10 what?12:21
KinkoBlastCafugo: NDISWrapper works nicely. It's not ideal, but it does the job.12:21
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runedude_axelmarquette, im using the cvs version12:21
runedude_err12:21
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runedude_rt2500-cvs-200511021112:21
corincolewell, ive made a spreadsheet of data....  and if i want to arrange one column (of numbers) in order, but want all the rows to follow in correct order, how can I do this...12:21
Nick_Hillrunedude, Breezy comes with a ralink 2500 driver12:21
runedude_Nick_Hill, oh really?12:22
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corincoleso take this as example:12:22
NoUsefayken yeah I don't know, I would download the linux client and read the instructions12:22
ompaulrunedude_, don't say that other thing - you don't have to name it - we have our own frame of reference :)12:22
axelmarquetterunedude_: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=107832&package_id=144813&release_id=34585812:22
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runedude_ompaul, hmm?12:22
corincole1   test12:22
corincole4   haha12:22
corincole2  again12:22
corincole3 once12:22
corincolethat rearranges as:12:22
faykenwhich program i use on ubuntu to open it with12:22
KinkoBlastAgamotto: Then how is it done?12:22
ompaulcorincole, don't paste here12:22
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corincole1  test12:22
corincole2  again12:22
corincole3  once12:22
corincole4  haha12:22
runedude_axelmarquette, but, prob is.. does it have WPA support?12:22
corincoleanyone?12:22
andi5corincole: mark all columns and rows you want to sort, data->sort, then choose your column?12:22
runedude_corincole, shut up12:22
runedude_wtf12:22
runedude_spam?12:22
ompaulcorincole, dont do that12:22
tuxedo_kamenhi everyone12:22
calamariwhich package has /etc/inittab in it?12:22
NoUsefayken double click it and gnome should figure it out12:22
tuxedo_kamenlisten, a quick question....12:23
Nick_Hillrunedude, Plug card in, enter wep key, click connect.12:23
tuxedo_kamenis there any program on ubuntu to send sms to celular phones?12:23
faykenkk thx will try again12:23
runedude_Nick_Hill, i dont use WEP12:23
runedude_I use WPA12:23
Nick_Hillrunedude, Worked for me12:23
Nick_Hillrunedude, wep is optional :-)12:23
corincoleandi5: thanks! :)12:23
KinkoBlasttuxedo_kamen: Several. Check on mozdev-there are some nice little firefox extentions for it12:24
runedude_heh12:24
andi5corincole: phew :D12:24
runedude_asking this:12:24
runedude_does the breezy drivers for rt2500 come w/ WPA support?12:24
w0rd54what's a good dvd playing package for ubuntu? reliable for playing most dvds12:24
corincolelol andi512:24
axelmarquetterunedude_: yes, it needs wireless tools and wpa will be fine12:24
tuxedo_kamencan anyone try it for me? I just wanted to know if I can send a sms to my own celular phone....12:24
mc|ambNick_Hill: sorry again, but when i choose browse network it asks me to log in to:  You must log in to access jmcnutt(my username)@192.168.1.4(my local ip) domain MSHOME... and asks for a username and password. i've tried with my session username and pass but it doesn't work.. could you help??12:24
glyn!w32codecs12:24
KinkoBlastw0rd54: VLC12:24
ubotuw32codecs is probably a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).  For 64-bit read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439912:24
runedude_axelmarquette, ah12:24
Stormx2How do i change styles of text in bash, e.g bold text12:24
runedude_hmm12:24
runedude_i guess its worth a shot12:24
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runedude_would i need wpa_supplicant?12:25
andi5Stormx2: google for ansi codes12:25
KinkoBlastHello! We jut got a new network printer- a Brother HL-2070N. It is connected directly to the network. Can it be set up for Linux?12:25
andi5Stormx2: ansi escape sequences12:25
axelmarquetterunedude_: dude whats that ?12:25
cianciwhen i try to do : sudo modprobe ndiswrapepr, it tells me: FATAL error insterting ndiswrapper- operation not permitted.12:25
glyncianci:try chmod 750 ndiswrapper12:25
cianciok12:25
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runedude_axelmarquette, WPA_Supplicant is the driver that allows wpa to be ran12:25
runedude_sometimes its required.12:25
runedude_etc12:25
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w0rd54KinkoBlast: apt-get install VLC12:26
anto9usKinkoBlast: see http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html12:26
w0rd54?12:26
cianci<glyn> that didn't work12:26
axelmarquetterunedude_: i just use this : http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html12:26
KinkoBlastw0rd54: sudo apt-get install vlc12:26
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glyncianci: same message?12:27
maxbob2 well i give up12:27
axelmarquetterunedude_: works fine with rt2500 i have and i use wpa12:27
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cianciyes, <glyn>12:27
axelmarquetterunedude_: its all the tips i can give u12:27
w0rd54KinkoBlast: says it can't find it12:27
cianciwant to modprobe ndiswrapper12:27
glyncianci: did it tell you anything when you chmod (ed)?12:27
w0rd54KinkoBlast: are you using a different set of mirrors?12:27
KinkoBlastHow do I convince my friends that Linux is NOT a commie system?12:27
kbrooksKinkoBlast: define commie system12:28
KinkoBlastw0rd54: Do you have Universe and Multiverse enabled?12:28
SanneKinkoBlast: or, rather, define friends ;)12:28
koala_manKinkoBlast: lie to them12:28
HrdwrBoBKinkoBlast: if they think it's a 'commie system' it's already too late, and you should get new friends12:28
Nick_Hillmc|amb, Are the shares shared with access by the user you are trying to connect as? For example, if shares are only for administrator, you wouldn't be able to connect to shares as a user12:28
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anto9usKinkoBlast: tell them they'll be able to market their Linux skills when it's taken over the world12:28
andi5KinkoBlast: well, try to show them the debian/ubuntu world map :D12:28
inadeDid anybody try installing Ubuntu 5.10 on a jfs filesystem?12:28
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NeverDreamKinkoBlast: it is a commie system, minux oppression and unfairness12:28
runedude_axelmarquette, do you use TKIPSK or something called that?12:28
glyncianci:the only other thing I can think of is sudo chmod 777 ndiswrapper or sudo chown glyn:ndiswrapper (I think)12:28
glynreplace glyn with <user>12:29
kbrooksNeverDream: dont trolll please12:29
spudsehow do I start fluxbox?12:29
competenCehi, i'd like to know how i can change my desktop resolution on ubuntu 5.10 i only have 1 selection and its too big help plz and im not sure of what to edit in xorg.conf12:29
andi5spudse: cannot you choose the fluxbox session in gdm (in login screen)?12:29
mc|ambNick_Hill: i'll check12:29
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spudseandi5, the gdm is where I enter user/pass ?12:30
MadeyeSeveas, i logged with enlightment now, but not all of the applications are showing in the menu, any idea?12:30
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andi5spudse: yes, at the bottom, there should be something to click on and to choose your preferred login screen, so window manager12:31
KinkoBlast# Brother grants User a non-exclusive license: to reproduce and distribute (via Internet or in any other manner) the Software. User shall not have any rights to modify, alter, translate or otherwise prepare derivative works of the Software: provided, however, that Brother permits User to modify the Software only for User's own use and reverse engineering only for debugging such modifications, to the extent such permission i12:31
KinkoBlasts required under GNU Lesser General Public License (ver. 2.1 or later).12:31
andi5spudse: sorry, meant login script :)12:31
KinkoBlastisn't that a GPL violation?12:31
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calamariis there an ubuntu package search to find out which package a file comes from?12:31
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bob2KinkoBlast: is it baased on GPL oftware?12:32
bob2calamari: packages.ubuntu.com12:32
andi5KinkoBlast: if you have total ownership of some code, you can dual-license that, dunno whether this applies here12:32
MaXbob2 did the same erorr12:32
spudseandi5, alright thanks. I thought that login screen was part of gnome, so I didnt take a good look yet :)12:32
KinkoBlastbob2: I beleve so...12:32
calamaribob2: thanks12:32
bob2MaX: great12:32
KinkoBlastandi5: It's a kernal module.12:32
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bob2KinkoBlast: then they can't put it under the LGPL anyway12:32
MaXthanks anyway12:32
cianci<cianci>12:32
anto9usKinkoBlast: dunno, but it made an MFC620CN work12:32
competenCeAnyone help please?12:32
competenCehi, i'd like to know how i can change my desktop resolution on ubuntu 5.10 i only have 1 selection and its too big help plz and im not sure of what to edit in xorg.conf12:32
andi5spudse: it is part of the gnome desktop, indeed, just like kdm is for kde, but both can use other login scripts, like fluxbox, too12:32
spudsedoes anybody has experience with slaptget (slackware) ?12:32
bob2spudse: #slackware12:32
bob2competenCe: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:33
Sannecalamari: on the web it's at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ "Search the contents of packages"12:33
cianciif i did sudo ndiswrapper -m, will that load it during startup automatically?12:33
Madeyeguys  i logged with enlightment now, but not all of the applications are showing in the menu, any idea?12:33
spudsebob2 well I was wondering about the difference between slaptget and aptget, so kinda #ubuntu aswell12:33
calamariSanne: bookmarked :)12:33
KinkoBlastBrother probably gets away with it because of the way japanese copyroght law is written.12:33
Sannecalamari: wise ;)12:33
cafuegospudse: You're assuming we use slackware.12:34
bob2spudse: apt-get is fiarly unimportant in the scheme of things12:34
andi5Madeye: need to ask that - do we know each other?12:34
bob2KinkoBlast: no12:34
cafuegospudse: (I do, but it's Slack 3.0 and has no slapt-get).12:34
bob2spudse: the reaso napt-get works so well is because of debian policy12:34
spudsecafuego, I am assuming people in this channel might have experience with slackware.12:34
Madeyeandi5, heh, if you got answer lemme know, and i'll do same with you12:34
cafuegospudse: I do :-)12:34
cafuegospudse: But in general that would be an incorrect assumprion.12:35
rohalhow to view the file size of all the files (including hidden) in a given directory???12:35
Nick_Hillrohal, du -s dirname12:35
spudsecafuego, I bet you people here have used slachware12:35
andi5rohal: du -s <dir>12:35
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ciancicould someone tell me what sudo updatedb actually does?12:35
cafuegospudse: That *still* doesn't make it topical eh.12:35
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spudsecafuego, ok12:35
Nick_Hillcianci, Do you use locate?12:35
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ciancino12:36
Nick_Hillcianci, Locate quickly gives a list of files on your system  matching a pattern.12:36
glynanyone able to help me integrate 250 MB of free space into my Ubuntu partition?12:36
iiiearscianci - it creates a file catalog of all files that is much faster to search than the entire disk12:36
rohalNick_Hill: du -s /home/gaurav        771128  /home/gaurav        its not listing files in the dir...12:36
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cianciok, thanks iiiears12:36
Sannecianci: it updates the file database for use with locate, a quick file search.12:36
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Nick_Hillrohal, ls -a12:36
bob2glyn: you can't12:36
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rohaldu -s /home/gaurav/*          is not listing hidden files???12:36
Nick_Hillrohal, I thought you wanted a total space used12:36
bob2glyn: you could symlink some dir on your root partition to it, if you like12:36
Nick_Hillrohal, or ls -al12:36
farruinnrohal: just do du -s --si ~12:37
glynbob2:what would that do?12:37
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bob2glyn: ?12:37
bob2glyn: it would let you use the 250MB as part of /12:37
glynbob2:would that give my root partition more space?12:37
cafuegobob2: Can't ya move & resize via parted?12:37
andi5rohal: hidden files are simply files with a starting dot, everything except programs showing files to you (the user), like ls, nautilus and so on, regard them as normal files12:37
KinkoBlastwhat do I do with this RPN file the driver I need came in?12:37
Nick_Hillrohal, ls -al /home/gaurav12:37
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Junohello guys, I updated to Breeze and now my gdm is crazy12:37
bob2glyn: is the partition immediately after /?12:37
Erlanghello all, is there any way to create an Ubuntu chroot on Debian for use with pbuilder?12:38
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bob2KinkoBlast: are you sure you need it at all?12:38
Madeyeandi5, any luck with engage ?12:38
glynbob2:oh cool...how do I give writing permissions to this partition?  yes it is12:38
bob2Erlang: trivial with debootstrap12:38
KinkoBlastbob2: Well, i can12:38
bob2glyn: you could enlarge the partition then12:38
zenwhenyour momma sucked my ang12:38
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KinkoBlastbob2: Well, i can't seem to get my network printer working without it....12:38
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cafuegozenwhen: Did you have an Ubuntu question?12:38
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rohalNick_Hill: ok got it...but what if some files are further in a directory & i want to view them too??12:38
BeGuzenwhen, nice to know12:38
cafuego... that works too.12:38
Erlangbob2: I guess so.  Is there an easy way with pbuilder?12:38
glynbob2:how do I do that?12:38
Nick_Hillrohal, ls -alR will list recursively12:39
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bob2Erlang: no idea12:39
Nick_Hillrohal, use 'man ls ' or 'man du' for more info12:39
rohalNick_Hill: k thanks12:39
andi5Madeye: i am sorry, i simply did not understand your anser ;-( but nonetheless, Madeye is a not too seldom name, i surely mistook you :)12:39
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Junohow could I fix my gdm after having updated12:40
glynbob2:how do I enlarge the partition?  using symlink?12:40
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nicholaspauli think i broke samba - anyone know if its poss. to prevent logging in with a bad smb.conf??12:40
sizzamhow do you get the address bar back in the 'Save File As' dialog box?   i was able to get it back in a normal nautilus window12:40
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KinkoBlastWhat do I  do with this RPM with the driver I need for my network printer?12:41
cafuegonicholaspaul: prevent logging in to gdm or the console? No.12:41
glynis there a command to make a symbolic link?12:41
andi5nicholaspaul: simply stop the samba servers (does not matter if you have no real configuration)12:41
cafuegonicholaspaul: unless you're using a windows PDC  for authentication via pam..12:41
nicholaspauloh sorry, cafeugo, i meant logging in from the network.. I can ssh but I cannot get in from the OSX finder12:41
cafuegonicholaspaul: ... in which case: SUFFER!12:41
nicholaspaulhi andi5, i'm still working on this!12:41
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tuxedo_kamencan anyone please tell me about the programs to send sms from ubuntu?12:42
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cafuegonicholaspaul: oh yeah, of samba is failing to work due to a bad config, the finder would indeed not be able to access it.12:42
andi5nicholaspaul: save your smb.conf and dpkg-reconfigure samba?12:42
nicholaspaulactually, cafuego, the winXP machine on the network doesnt give me any grief :D12:42
glyncan someone tell me how to symbolic link?12:42
cafuegonicholaspaul: Typical :-)12:42
cafuegonicholaspaul: OSX 10.4 eh?12:42
nicholaspaulcafuego, do you know if imsb.conf is the same in breezy as hoary?12:42
KinkoBlasttuxedo_kamen: try some of the firefox extentions ore one of the many web sites.12:43
bimberiglyn: ln -s /path/to/file/or/directory /path/to/link12:43
nicholaspaulyea, 10.4 The other Ubuntu machine works fine. just this one, cafuego12:43
cafuegonicholaspaul: No idea; I use NFS for my OSX clients.12:43
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nicholaspaulcafuego: NFS?12:43
cafuego(and don't have hoary)12:43
andi5cafuego: *applause* ;-)12:43
tuxedo_kamenyeah, but I want to be sure that they work before installing them!12:43
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cafuegonicholaspaul: Network File System - the unix way.12:43
meherenim trying to set up wine how can i get it up and running?12:43
Junomy keyboard in the gdm doesn't work, can anybony help me, please?12:43
nicholaspaulk, before i get breezy, samba/smbfs was working just fine12:43
marzHow can I get cornerXMMS (gdesklet) to work when I get an error "No control found for interface"12:43
KinkoBlasttuxedo_kamen: they will. If they dont, FX won't let them install.12:43
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BlueEaglemeheren: It's well explained in the manual.12:44
glynI get this when I try to make a symlink to a partition:12:44
nicholaspaulcafuego: is NFS like samba?12:44
cafuegonicholaspaul: Do you have a hoary smb.conf (backed up?) you can check for differences?12:44
meherenyeh12:44
glynln -s Extended\ HD/ ~/ln: `/home/glyn//Extended HD': cannot overwrite directory12:44
tuxedo_kamennot that... I wanted to know if they work for my country....12:44
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meherenwell i did everything but it does not work12:44
KinkoBlasttuxedo_kamen: Almost NONE work outside the US12:44
meherenim using breezy badger12:44
cafuegonicholaspaul: NFS supports unix file permissions, it's far more flexible than samba.12:44
nicholaspaulactually cafuego  i just copied over my old hoary smb.conf, but forgot to keep the original breezt12:44
tuxedo_kamenyeah, I live in Portugal :-\12:44
nicholaspauloh ok cafuego12:44
meherennot hoary12:44
glynhow do I give writing permissions to my partition12:45
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glynand make a symlink to it?12:45
KinkoBlasttuxedo_kamen: My advice: Buy a cellphone12:45
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andi5glyn: what when you remove the trailing slash?12:45
sixoNoob here<--12:45
cafuegonicholaspaul: Well, the breezy one can be re-added by grabbing it from the samba package.12:45
sixocan i get some help, PM me12:45
KinkoBlasttuxedo_kamen: You can send to a US cell from anywhere, though] 12:45
tuxedo_kamenkinoblast, I  have one, but I am out of money! >_<12:45
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marzCan anyone help me get cornerXMMS (a gdesklet) to work when getting the error, "No control found for interface"12:45
nicholaspaulcafuego:  as in, removing and reinstalling samba?12:45
glynandi5:?12:45
meherenso like i dowloaded a windows program installer how do i use it with wine?12:46
nuckwhat opens a .a file?12:46
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andi5glyn: sorry, this does not make a difference12:46
sixocan i get some help here?  I have a few questions about installing.12:47
glynanyone know how to give writing permissions to a partition I created?12:47
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philippe_hello12:47
bobbyd_hi12:47
sixoPm me?12:47
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philippe_hey, i have a small display problem with ubuntu12:47
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bobbyd_hi12:48
cozhello all12:48
andi5glyn: what file system type does this partition carry? does umask=000 while mounting help?12:48
philippe_is anybody knowledgable in that domain?12:48
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DjKriticalDoes anyone know the easiest way to forward a local tcp port to another tcp port in ubuntu?12:48
cozBefore AI reinstalled I was able to watch qucktime movies now after reinstalling I cannot12:48
coz what am I missing here?12:48
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bobbyd_can anyone remind me wher the config options for usbcore are? things like usbfs and snooping?12:48
DjKriticalphilippe_, just ask the question :P12:48
sixoI need help with installing Ubuntu, when i install it runs the software, but afer a restart and reset of bios it asks for the boot CD again12:48
glynandi:ext212:48
KinkoBlastphilippe_: Say it in the channel.12:48
philippe_ok12:48
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KinkoBlastWhat port does Identd use?12:49
bobbyd_coz, the quicktime codec?12:49
philippe_Well, I have a display problem in the text base portion12:49
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BlueEaglesixo: sounds like a misconfigured bios or a failure when installing the bootloader.12:49
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{Mike}anyone have success with getting the "adi" joystick module for Wingman joysticks working?12:49
cozwhat i sit called in sysnaptic?12:49
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glynandi5:I didn't know about umask..how do I unmount the partition?12:49
bobbyd_coz look up win32 codecs on the wiki12:49
philippe_the text scrolls down the bottom of the screen, and then starts appearing back at the top12:49
andi5glyn: umount <part>12:49
cozI have the w32codec installed12:49
hawkinghello I have an asus A3500E laptop and when I try to install ubuntu ... everything works fine until the installation with the cd ends.. then I reboot the computer and it gets stuck when it comes to hotplug.. can anyone help?12:49
philippe_it's hard to explain12:49
nicholaspaulcafuego: do you have a copy of the original smb.conf from breezy?12:50
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glynandi5:how do I check what parts I have?12:50
andi5glyn: but for ext2 you should rather adjust the permissions of the top-most (the root) directory on that partition12:50
glynandi5:ah how would I do that?12:50
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glynsorry if I ask stupid questions I'm new12:50
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DjKriticalDoes anyone know the easiest way to forward a local tcp port to another tcp port in ubuntu?12:51
LordChaosI'm a newbie too12:51
sixoBlueEagle: how would i go about fixing this?12:51
philippe_So anybody know how to fix my display problem12:51
andi5glyn: ls -ld <mountpoint> will tell you the rights12:51
Agamottoglyn:  The only stupid question is the one you don't ask12:51
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tescoilUsing vlc & ffmpeg, downloaded this mp4 <http://www.archive.org/details/bb_ill_be_glad_when_youre_dead>.  Fine video, no audio, can't figure.  Other audio aps working fine.12:51
LordChaosTrying to do an install on an emachine T621212:51
andi5glyn: then chmod/chown it the way you want it :) how do you need it?12:51
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BlueEaglesixo: That depends on what is wrong. If it's a misconfigured bios then reconfigure our bios to boot for your harddisk. If it's a misconfigured bootloader re-install the bootloader to the correct place (maybe the MBR of your 1st disk?)12:52
LordChaosI get an unlink after no-IRQ message12:52
glynandi5:basically I need to give it permissions so I can make a symlink to it12:52
glynandi5:just chmod 750 from the root dir?12:52
LordChaosfollowed by 'Controller is probably using the wrong IRQ'12:52
nicholaspaulAnyone have an original smb.conf  for breezy?12:52
andi5glyn: you can symlink to everything even nonexisting files12:52
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LordChaosCan anyone help me?12:52
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nicholaspauljust ask lordchaos12:53
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andi5glyn: or do you want to create a symlink in that directory? what about "sudo ln -s <to> <from>"?12:53
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glynandi5:I'm trying to symlink it so I get the 250 MB of space on my Ubuntu drive12:53
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nicholaspaulandi5: do you have a copy of the original breezy smb.conf???12:53
andi5nicholaspaul: did you try to dpkg-reconfigure samba?12:54
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nicholaspaulandi5:  no. i didnt know how ! :S12:54
andi5glyn: how do you want to access it?12:54
philippe_hey, is there anything special i need to do to make the command shell display correctly on a widescreen?12:54
andi5nicholaspaul: issue that command ;)12:54
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nicholaspaul_an'12:54
DjKriticalDoes anyone know the easiest way to forward a local tcp port to another tcp port in ubuntu? This is such a simple thing to do honestly! does anyone have any idea?12:54
Sanneglyn: you can't actually resize a partition with symlinking12:54
nicholaspaulandi5: ok will do12:54
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glynandi5:I don't know what do you mean?12:54
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glynSanne:How would I integrate this free space into my ubuntu drive, then?12:55
andi5Sanne, glyn: was this about unionfs?12:55
glynandi5:no12:55
philippe_can anybody read this?12:56
glynyes12:56
philippe_ok12:56
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Sanneglyn: I'm no expert, sorry, I just wanted to point this out in case you misunderstood.12:56
andi5glyn: hehe, i think so, but does not matter ;) who shall use this space? the user?12:56
sklavHi guys12:56
philippe_welcome12:56
andi5glyn: what about copying all under /home to that that partition and mounting it then to /home?12:56
meherenhow can i like log in or something as root?12:56
sklavhi philippe_12:57
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sklavsu -12:57
glynandi5:the user yes12:57
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MAXmy ubuntu when booting goes to a bluescreen saying that the video driver is not correctly configured12:57
glynandi5:I don't have any files in home12:57
mehereni want to write files to pixmaps but it says root is the owner12:57
andi5meheren: simply sudo your commands (it is your password)12:57
MAXcan someone help me12:57
MAX?12:57
LordChaosDoes anyone have any experience installing on an emachine T6212?12:57
meherenok12:57
glynandi5:the partition is only 2G and taken up mostly by necessary packages12:57
SanneUbuntu has a bluescreen? Waaah!12:57
meherenso then i would have to do everything in the terminal write?12:57
andi5glyn: hehe, who told you that 2gigs is enough? *wondering*12:57
philippe_BSOD!?!12:57
meheren*right?12:57
AgamottoMAX:  What kit?  Video card model, computer model, etc...12:57
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TedLemonSo I've been playing around with sound on Ubuntu for a couple of hours now, and I've come to some conclusions; I wonder if they're specific to my machine or generally true.   It doesn't seem to work to use esd for output.   I get good clear audio with xmms talking to OSS.   I get fairly good audio, but with frequent clicks, when I set gnome audio to OSS and play a track in rhythmbox.12:58
sklavBSOD for X only12:58
glynandi5:the guy I bought the computer from gave me a 9G HD..Heh12:58
sklav;)12:58
andi5glyn: ever tried to install winxp on 2 gigs? ;)12:58
Trashcanlol12:58
philippe_lol12:58
MAXvideo card12:58
glynandi5:and I have XP on the big one12:58
sklavthe system is still able to tell him its misconfigured12:58
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MAXati x800GT12:58
MAXintel12:58
w0rd54lol xp on 2 gigs12:58
sklavMAX you need the ati drivers12:58
philippe_ms will shoot themselves in the foot with vista12:58
sklavapt-get install driver12:58
sklavfrom command line12:59
TedLemonMy impression is that the audio setup in ubuntu isn't entirely baked yet.12:59
AgamottoMAX:  Hmmm, try the non-free drivers from ATI, that may put it back in fighting form12:59
TedLemonAnybody having similar problems, or am I just unlucky?12:59
andi5glyn: i would say: partition your big disk, and then copy all files accordingly to their future mount point, then adjust grub, fstab and there you are :D12:59
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philippe_ati doesn't have free drivers for debian12:59
philippe_they have some for red hat and suse i think12:59
LordChaosAMDXP: have you had any success with AMD64 install?12:59
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sklavi saw it on my version12:59
Stormx2Anyone know bash want to gimme a really really quick hand for a sec?01:00
sklav1 sec i will get the driver name01:00
AgamottoTedLemon:  You need to turn off the sound server startup under the Sound Preferences, this will enable multiple programs to do sound at the same time01:00
sklavi installed nvidia01:00
philippe_<<< is running a 64bit install01:00
Fred_Nerkhowdy.. can anyone tell me why on breezy (upgraded from hoary) a lot of gnome programs (like screenshot, gnome, keyboard properties) are hanging on a system call like:01:00
sklavthat sucks01:00
Fred_Nerkconnect(14, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=@/tmp/fam-dparrish-}, 11001:00
sklavif its amd01:00
Agamottophillippe_:  I am jealous01:00
sklav32bit should work01:00
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philippe_Agamotto: what's not working with your installation?01:01
sklava name like Agamotto ;) usually signifies problems in Greek :))01:01
Agamottophillipe_:  My install is fine, I am just jealous of the 64bit01:01
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sixoneed one mroe thing01:01
philippe_ohh i see01:01
sixohow do i get to a desktop?01:01
Agamottosklav:  Nope, my nick comes from the Hindu-Vedic01:01
sklavhehe01:01
sixoi got the Os installed and everything is happy now01:01
Agamottosixo:  Could you please be more specific01:02
sixoand im in a command prmpt01:02
philippe_actually, 64bit support is not quite there yet01:02
sklavin greek when you say i gamoto it means  A.. Fuck it01:02
philippe_so 32 still rules for that01:02
runedude_is smp hyperthreading?01:02
EmergeTWwhat is the easiest way to get mp3 support for amaroK under ubuntu?01:02
Agamottosixo:  Ahhh, you need to type in  startx01:02
sixook01:02
TedLemonagamotto: that doesn't seem to have helped with the clicks... :'}01:02
philippe_like they don't have flash for 64bit01:02
sixosays unknow command01:02
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philippe_so some internet stuff doesn't work01:03
LordChaosAnyone out there had success with their AMD64 install01:03
philippe_i have01:03
glynandi5:well that would require a lot of complex work in my situation..there's no way to just get the 250MB on my Ubuntu drive?01:03
AgamottoTedLemon:  the clicks may be due to interference on your mobo01:03
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LordChaosI'm getting an unlink after no-IRQ message01:03
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philippe_both on my AMD 3300, and my Turion-30 MT01:03
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TedLemonagamotto: I don't think so, because then xmms wouldn't work.   plus, it would also happen in Windows.01:03
overdrivebuenas01:03
philippe_*AMD64330001:03
Agamottoglyn:  Go into qtparted and format it as a partition, then mount01:03
TedLemonagamotto: I think it's some kind of packetization problem, but I didn't have it on my AMD64 system - just on my Vaio.01:04
sixoamamotto: startx gives me this "-bash: startx: command not foound"01:04
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AgamottoTedLemon:  If you get clicks on both OSs, it is most likely a hardware short somewhere01:04
philippe_it runs really really fast on my desktop01:04
stylishSysInfo: Linux 2.6.12-9-386 | Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz 2399.844 MHz | Mem: 177/507M [||||||||||]  | Diskspace: 43G Free: 36G | Bogomips: 4751.36 | Screen Res: 1024x768 | Procs: 66 |   | Up:  | eth0: In: 0.00M Out: 0.00M01:04
competenCehello, how can i get the weather in my taskbar next to the time and date?01:04
philippe_i think ubuntu is bit of a ram hog though01:04
AgamottoTedLemon:  I suppose, I have never run into that01:04
hawkingdid anyone see my question? ::/01:04
sixowww.google.com/ig and weather thing01:04
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TedLemonagamotto: sigh, thanks for trying.01:04
w0rd54is there a webpage/guide to make ubuntu more multimedia compatible?01:04
TedLemonThis stuff really doesn't seem very solid, unfortunately.01:05
stylishphilippe_ : mine is only running @ 177 MB RAM01:05
w0rd54I am trying to play xvid/mpeg1 and mpeg2 and having really bad luck01:05
AgamottocompetenCe:  Go to the panel, right click, and add item to panel,  choose the weather applet.01:05
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TedLemonw0rd54: I've had pretty good luck with VLC, although I get clicks in the audio.   :'(01:05
philippe_stylish: yeah, i run it at work on 128, but it's far from snappy.  On my 1gig of ram system, it's so fast01:05
andi5glyn: well, you can avoid the grub part, if you only partition for mount points other than root (so you split some parts off, like /usr, /var and /home)01:05
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TedLemonw0rd54: for me, xine just crashes when I hit play, no matter what.01:06
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sixoIm in a command prompt after i login and start up, what do i type to get to the desktop...01:06
philippe_hey, my firfox crashes very frequently, what can be the cause of that?01:06
stylishphilippe_ : you should install gentoo on that 128 MB box01:06
Agamottosixo:  startx01:06
sixosays unknow command01:07
philippe_stylish: I don't know if I'm mentally ready for such an OS01:07
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philippe_<<<< is a newbie01:07
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stylishits a brease01:07
sixounknown01:07
glynandi5:the problem is compiling all the packages and everything all over again and getting another HD to backup all the space on01:07
raidenhello i need help ..i don't know how to install *.deb files in linux01:07
raidencan sombody help me01:07
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philippe_shoot raiden01:07
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andi5glyn: no need to compile anything...01:07
ayrehey01:07
ayreim in definite need of some help please01:07
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Agamottosixo:  You managed to install your system without adding a graphics server.  Go through the install again, and make sure you have tested the graphics01:08
ayreI just (for my first time) got rid of windows and setup ubuntu01:08
philippe_ok01:08
Agamottoraiden:  dpkg -i somefile.deb01:08
oo0_JeS_0ooraiden, dpkg -i name_of_the_package.deb01:08
ayrewas told its the best.. so I did that.. all is good but like I dont know anything about how to setup the internet01:08
glynis there anything like Paragon Partition Manager for Linux?01:08
ayreetc01:08
sixoput the boot disk in again?01:08
ayredrivers and stuff01:08
Agamottoayre:  Congrats on taking the first step01:08
raidenit doesn't work01:08
ayreAgamotto: thanks, was actually easier then windows ;p;01:08
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Agamottoayre:  Setting up in what manner please?01:08
oo0_JeS_0ooraiden, try login as root01:08
Agamottosixo:  Yes, start your install over again01:08
ayreWell I would like to connect wirelessly to my router01:08
ayreno idea how hehe01:08
philippe_ayre: for the internet, you have to go to system/administator/network something01:08
glynis there anything like Paragon Partition Manager for Linux?  Something that lets you resize partitions?01:08
oo0_JeS_0ooraiden, of course in a terminal01:09
raidenok3j thx JES01:09
Agamottoayre:  What wireless hardware?01:09
TedLemonglyn: the installer will resize your partitions, but my experience with it was that it trashed my NTFS.01:09
Agamottoglyn:  qtparted01:09
ayreLaptop has BCM43 something01:09
TedLemonglyn: so be caution; make a backup!01:09
ayreI checked device manager and I found it there..01:09
ayredont know if it means its working01:09
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AgamottoNTFS writting is still considered experimental with Linux - - big no no01:10
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philippe_you have to set up your connection ayre01:10
philippe_system/administration/networking01:10
TedLemonagamotto: this is partition resizing, not NTFS R/W.   Although you're right that it amounts to the same thing.01:10
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ayreI checked that philippe_, it doesnt seem to show any wireless, only modem/ethernet and they both got a red [x]  on the bottom right corner01:10
philippe_oh i see01:10
AgamottoHrm01:11
philippe_that means your hardware is not working out of the box01:11
nuohi there01:11
philippe_you need to find out some tutorial somewhere to set it up01:11
ayreah01:11
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philippe_i'm sorry01:11
ayrewell I was hoping one of you could help me for the first time ;(01:11
dduckoHmm just a quick questiong.. about to upgrade my ram to 1 gig.. from 256.. anything I need to change first?01:11
Agamottoarye:  Go to the wiki for Ubuntu, and there is a section to help you use a program called ndiswrapper that will try to set it up with the Win drivers.01:11
philippe_i've never done this linux myself01:11
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philippe_i was lucky, everything worked out of the boc01:12
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philippe_box*01:12
ayreah01:12
test34What program can I use to create a package from source ?01:12
Agamotto!ubotu tell ayre ndiswrapper01:12
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ayreok Agamotto Ill give that a try01:12
raidenhow to login ass root in terminal01:12
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dducko!tell raiden about root01:12
Agamottoraiden:  sudo01:12
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raidenfirst time I run linux01:12
jbroomeass root?01:12
andi5raiden: i do "sudo bash", do not whether this is ok01:12
Trashcansudo -s01:12
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ayreit didnt tell me nothing01:12
nuoI have a problem getting my laptop's realtek ethernet working..... it just doesn't... either with DHCP or Static ip adress01:12
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Trashcanlolol01:12
dduckosudo -s is a root console01:13
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Trashcanthat can't be healthy01:13
ayre!tell ayre ndiswrapper01:13
Trashcansudo -i is a root console with environment vars01:13
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philippe_is it me or gnome is light years behind kde?01:13
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riffraffhi01:13
raidenthx for help01:13
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stylishphilippe_ : gnome rocks01:13
dduckoHmm just a quick question.. about to upgrade my ram to 1 gig.. from 256.. anything I need to change first?01:13
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bimberiphilippe_: it's a matter of opinion ...01:13
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jbroomedducko: not really01:13
johnware all the system files supposed to be owned by root:root?01:13
Agamottophillipe:  Gnome is based on the KISS model01:13
sklavswap needs to be changed sometimes01:13
dduckocoolio01:13
nekostardoes anyone have experience compiling denu?01:13
nuodducko: nop01:14
philippe_i don't know, i tried kubuntu, and it was sweet01:14
funkyHatphilippe_, gnome has different aims to KDE01:14
riffraffsome else has issues wrt subversion with breezy badger? it seem it is crashing often on my machine01:14
stylishdducko : turn off your pc and plop that ram in01:14
riffraffs/some/someone01:14
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glynis Epiphany necessary for the system to run?01:14
Agamottoriffraff:  Not I01:14
funkyHatglyn, no01:14
philippe_and if you turn off the eye candy in kde, it runs just as fast as gnome01:14
riffraffdamn01:14
riffrafftnx Agamotto01:14
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FletchyI installed xserver-xorg, whats next? Im working my way to get a simple window manager01:14
dduckocoolio.. off to do it.. hope it works.. from tiger direct. .but only 20 bucks for 2 512 sticks01:14
ciancihi i have a problem getting my wireless usb  adapter to work01:15
ayreok I kinda got a prbolem here.. I got no mouse ont his freakin pc01:15
ayreand no internet on my ubuntu01:15
philippe_lol01:15
philippe_that sucks01:15
nuoayre: no net here too01:15
ayreI know01:15
philippe_have you tried to see if ethernet works?01:15
Agamottocianci:  A common problem01:15
stylishbrodband rocks01:15
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nuowhat chipset do you have?01:15
ayreNot sure bout the chipset im running athlon x64 3200+01:16
BeGuI made a launcher to my desktop that updates my uptime record to the internet... launcher's command uses sudo and that's why it ask's for a password. How can I make a launcher with sudo and somehow put the password inside that launcher that I dont have to write my sudo password every time I use that laucher... DId anyone understand? :)01:16
Agamottoayre:  Try a google search for ndiswrapper+ubuntu01:16
ayreAgamotto: no mouse man its taking me forever to tab01:16
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philippe_L8T_4_Beer lol01:16
philippe_awesome nick01:16
AgamottoBeGu:  Why don't you just use GKrellm to keep track of your uptime?01:16
Agamottoayre:  No mouse?  eeeekk01:16
ayreyea im running on this old ass computer01:17
BeGuwhat is Gkrellm?01:17
ayreis this ndiswrapper located inside ubuntu?01:17
FletchyI installed xserver-xorg, whats next? Im working my way to get a simple window manager01:17
ciancii tried ndiswrapper, but i don't think i set it up right for linksys wusb54G adapter01:17
philippe_so has anybody had problems with the shell display?01:17
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AgamottoBeGu:  A system monitor applet that has many plugins and monitors01:17
andi5BeGu: what do you need root rights for? i did not understand that.... btw the command uptime is nice :)01:17
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Agamottoayre:  No, it is a separate piece that can work with ubuntu01:18
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glynwould the system still function if I delete the desktop-docs directory for gnome?01:18
test34How can I create a ubuntu .deb package from source ?01:18
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philippe_my gnome is display is super ok, but my shell is messed up01:18
Agamottoglyn:  Yes/no.  It would hobble gnome a bit01:18
BeGuwell the point is to show my uptime to others over the internet... www.uptime-project.net is the thing I'm using...01:19
philippe_my gnome display*01:19
_jasonubotu:  tell test34 about checkinstall01:19
nuodid anyone have some problems with ethernet? in my pc it doesn't work01:19
test34thanks jason01:19
Agamottonuo:  What kind of hardware?01:19
ciancican someone help me with ndiswrapper?01:19
_jasontest34:  you're welcome01:19
nuocan't connect even to my router01:19
funkyHathmm...01:19
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funkyHat!ndiswrapper01:19
ubotuI guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper01:19
nuoAgamotto:realtek rtl813901:20
iczthat is supported01:20
icznatively01:20
AgamottoHrm01:20
nuoi know01:20
iczsrry01:20
cianciwhat is the easiest way to get LinksysWUSB54G wireless adapter to work?01:20
ayrei cant click on that damn link01:20
ayre;(01:20
BeGuwell let's ask it like this... if I'm using sudo command.. how can I include my password to that sudo command so the password isn't asked... like sudo apt-get install ubuntu passwd .. where the password would be my passeord..01:20
philippe_cianci: it doesn't work native?01:20
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glynanyone know how I can free up space?01:21
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Avenhello01:21
b|d-voradordoes xchat come with a irc command that shows your uptime and pc specs? anyone know01:21
glynI don't have enough space to copy the Xconfiguration file or something01:21
Avenhow can I kill all 6667 ports?01:21
Potterwinsheya01:21
nuoAgamotto: the strange thing is that during installation it connected successfully to the repositories with dhcp01:21
glynor xauthority01:21
andi5BeGu: why should you want that? i never understand that.... someone needs to call that script... eigher you (by sudo) or some cron job (this one has root privileges)01:21
glynso I can't get into symantic to delete packages01:21
Pabloglyn, you can put stuff in the trash can then hit delete01:21
Agamottonuo:  Now that is interesting01:21
Avencause a weird ircd is running in my background.. haven't figured which yet..01:21
Potterwinsi'm trying to update my repositories for apt-get01:21
glynPablo:Stuff like what?01:21
Potterwinsbut the example given in the users guide is for hoary01:21
AgamottoBAD BAD BAD ADVICE01:21
farruinnI want to make gnome-settings-daemon part of my enlightenment xsession but when I add Exec=gnome-settings-daemon & it hangs when I try to log in. Any suggestions?01:21
Pablooh Aven ... have you been h4x0r3d with an ircd running01:21
Potterwinsi use breezy01:21
philippe_cianci:   I have a WPC54G which is the pci version of the network adapter, and it worked "out of the box"01:22
AgamottoNEVER just 'delete' things01:22
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Potterwinsthe order of the source list is different01:22
nuoAgamotto: inside gnome - no network.... something like "host unreachable"01:22
RoseMayFearshi01:22
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moparfan90hello. whats that program called that makes your windows see tho?01:22
funkyHattransset01:22
nuoAgamotto: tried manual conf either... nothing01:22
maxhelp please...01:22
PabloAgamotto, I wasnt just suggesting deleting anything01:23
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moparfan90ok01:23
Agamottonuo:  Hrrrmmm.... I can't think of anything atm01:23
xxyciao ragazze01:23
maxwhen installing linux the 3 step, he doens't detect the CD ROM01:23
newbie_at_linuxI just installed a program from source. I do not know where the program got installed to. Maybe it was not anywhere that is in my path. When I tried to run it, I got the error "No such file or directory."01:23
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maxAgamotto can you help me?01:23
Agamottomax:  And you are using a cd to do the install?01:24
glynhelp please having a little problem: sudo apt-get remove totem01:24
glynE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.01:24
Avenplease help..01:24
glynsorry for the paste01:24
Avenhow can I kill all 6667 ports?01:24
maxAgamotto yes01:24
Agamottoglyn:  do as it says01:24
xxyciaoooo c' una girl01:24
andi5newbie_at_linux: maybe somewhere in /usr/local?01:24
glynthis is what happens when I try:dpkg: failed to write status record about `gnome-gv' to `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device01:24
LjLglyn: "df"01:24
LjL:)01:24
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Agamottoglyn:  It fixes the references and indeces01:24
iczaven: what do you mean kill? you can use iptables01:24
andi5glyn: i told you what i would do if i was you :D01:24
Agamottoandi5:  /usr/local is the usual target01:24
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Avenicz: how do I do that?01:25
nuoAgamotto: thank you.... I will look for even more info.... nothing in the forums or google till yet... :(01:25
philippe_anybody familiar with display problems?01:25
andi5Agamotto: *nods*01:25
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maxAgamotto yes i'm installing form a cd01:25
iczaven: you have to look into it because you need to know how to use IPTABLE commands01:25
ayrehey whats my setup tool thing (they say synaptic but I dont know where its located)01:26
ayrewait nvm I found it01:26
Agamottomax:  As stupid as it sounds, check the cd for scratches, smudges, and then clean the cd drive with a lens cleaner disc01:26
iczaven: to install its just sudo apt-get install iptables01:26
moparfan90ok i installed trasset how do i use it ?01:26
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Agamottomoparfan90:  man trasset01:26
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iczaven: ill get you the command to allow everything and the command to drop that port01:26
moparfan90icz, that should already be install be defualt01:26
moparfan90ok01:27
Aventhanks!01:27
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newbie_at_linuxHow come I cannot install programs with dpkg -i when Synaptic is running, but I can install programs from source when Synaptic is running. Does that cause problems to install programs from source while Synaptic is running?01:27
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bimberinewbie_at_linux: no01:27
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philippe_compiling source uses a different program than synaptic01:27
maxAgamotto but he runs linux configuration01:28
andi5newbie_at_linux: if you are a newbie at linux, i guess you could first try not to compile everything from source :)01:28
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Avenok01:28
Avenwho's used undernet ircdu before?01:28
bimberinewbie_at_linux: but it's better to use checkinstall (if possible) if compiling01:28
ciancii setup ndiswrapper, i installed the drivers for the wusb54G adapter, and i did modprobe ndiswrapper, when i go to System--> admin --> then networking, the hardware doesn't show up. i would appreciate help.01:28
Agamottonewbie_at_linux:  You are essentially trying to run multiple instances of apt, which don't have much to do with source installs01:28
glynanyone have any suggestions to free up disk space?01:28
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philippe_glyn: kill windows01:29
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LjLglyn: "aptitude clean"01:29
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Agamottomax:  Ok, I can't think of too many other things that would keep kudzu from finding the drive...01:29
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iczaven: ptables -A INPUT -d 0.0.0.0 -p tcp --dport 6669 -j DROP01:29
philippe_windows is the worse virus the world has ever known01:29
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glynLjL:still not enough space to copy my Xauthorization file01:30
iczaven: should be an i infront of that01:30
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LjLglyn: well perhaps look in /var/log and remove some01:30
philippe_the other day, my buddy erased all the passwords on a windows 2000 system that's was fully updated01:30
andi5LjL: he has an additional 120 gig disk unused...01:30
philippe_it took him 10 minutes to figure it out01:30
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EasterSunshineglyn: your windows manager and web browser probably caches a lot.01:31
LjLandi: oh ;-) well, still not that useful if you just need to free up some bytes for aptitude to complete01:31
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LjLglyn: yeah, check and clear your caches01:31
glynHow do I check the cache?01:31
Agamottoglyn:  What are the specs on the hardware you are using Ubuntu on?01:32
newbie_at_linuxWhenever I try to run a certain program from terminal, I get a prompt with > on the next line and the program does not come up.01:32
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iczwhat program?01:32
glynAgamotto:P4 Compax IPAQ 9G HD 2 gig for ubuntu 7 for XP01:32
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FletchyHow to run a deb. package?01:32
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iczfletchy dpkg -i01:33
Agamottoglyn:  You are running Ubuntu on a PDA?01:33
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philippe_???01:33
Fletchythanks01:33
Avenok, can you give me the command to kill 6667 using iptables?01:33
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icznp01:33
ayre2damn it01:33
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vojtahi, complete new to linux and ubuntu. how can i edit /boot/grub/munu.st?01:33
LjLagamotto: no, there are desktop iPaqs ;)01:33
iczaven yeh i gave it you left01:33
iczlol01:33
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jbroomeipaq's are also SFF pcs01:33
ayre2ok when they say run "sudo ..." where do I do that in?01:33
andi5Agamotto: probably a gameboy advance01:33
Avenlol, sorry01:33
icziptables -A INPUT -d 0.0.0.0 -p tcp --dport 6669 -j DROP01:33
philippe_how do you fit a cd in a PDA?01:33
bimberivojta: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst01:33
glynAgamotto:lol no01:33
ColD_7openoffice has been update to 2.0, but the one included in ubuntu is only the beta version, how to upgrade it?01:33
iczchange 6669 to whatever port01:34
bimberi!ooo201:34
ubotuTest packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html01:34
Aven6669?01:34
AgamottoThat is what was confusing the hell out of me01:34
Avenoh ok, thanks01:34
LjLayre: in a console?01:34
icziptables -A INPUT -s 0.0.0.0 -d 0.0.0.0 -p tcp --dport 6667 -j DROP01:34
ayre2yea i found it.01:34
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ayre2'terminal'01:34
ayre2lol01:34
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ayre2must I be root01:34
philippe_isn't it gnome-terminal01:34
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LjLayre: you can't go root in ubuntu, that's why you use sudo01:35
vojtait needs password. mine?01:35
glynAgamotto:The guy I bought the comp from originally gave me a 15Gig HD and then it didn't work and he gave me a 9GB HD saying "it's still big"01:35
iczyou can go to root01:35
ayre2su - ?01:35
iczsudo passwd root01:35
iczgive it a password01:35
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iczi dont sugest that though01:35
Agamotto9Gb should work relatively well01:35
ayre2I dont know what sudo does here this is like my first nix shit heh01:35
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Agamottoglyn: Are you dual-booting?01:35
uglysmurfmy /var/mail is empty...no root directory...no me...i cant remember doing anything special in hoary to get it...anyone have any ideas?01:35
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glynAgamotto:no01:35
johnw_is there a list that gives what ownership system files should have?01:36
ayre2and whats the /thing for my cd?01:36
LjLayre: sudo gives you root for the specific command you're executing, basically01:36
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Agamottoglyn:  Interesting...  what are your partitions?01:36
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glynAgamotto:Xp and ubuntu01:36
ayre2ah ok thanks LjL01:36
LjLayre: /media/cdrom01:36
ayre2ah ok thanks again ;)01:36
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newbie_at_linuxchris@ubuntu:/usr/bin$ bo2k01:36
newbie_at_linux>01:36
axelhey guys01:36
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Agamottoglyn:  Then you are dual booting.  What is the size of each partition?01:36
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newbie_at_linuxi am trying to run the program and i get that01:36
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glynAgamotto:Oh heh sorry..7G/2G01:37
vojtatks01:37
FletchyWhat do i install after xserver-xorg? Im trying to get a window manager and the computer im doing it on does'nt have net access, so if i need packages i can put them on my thumb drive01:37
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ayre2mmm ok done installing great01:37
b|d-voradorguys im trying to install perl scripts on my new ubuntu install for xchat.  is the perl script installed by default?01:37
iczintsall gnome01:37
Avenicz: still won't work =\01:37
dduckoGot a quick question... where can I check the installed amount of RAM?01:37
iczreally?01:37
axelI've just installed Ubuntu and to install a package its asking for the root password, when i enter my user password it fails and i didnt enter any root password, what is it ?01:37
DjKriticalAnyone know how to change the vnc port range?01:37
iczaven hmm 1 sec01:37
Agamottoglyn:  to be truly useful, any linux install should have around 6G of space.  2G or so for /, and 4G or so for /home01:37
dducko!tell axel about root01:37
iczill get the right one for you01:37
Agamottodducko:  your BIOS01:37
LjLaxel: oughta be your own password01:37
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iczaven type iptables -l01:38
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dduckoThere isnt an App that will tell me?01:38
kyncaniFletchy: the ubuntu breezy cd should install everything you need, wouldn't it ?01:38
iczthat clears the rules01:38
dduckoOr a setting somewhere?01:38
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Aveniptables v1.3.1: Unknown arg `-l'01:38
ayre2nice! I see wireless connection now01:38
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ayre2you guys are awesome01:38
ayre2;D01:38
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Fletchykyncani, the full CD doesnt run too well on this old machine01:38
Sionidedducko, there are scripts you can get for xchat which will tell you01:38
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Fletchyso shouldnt I just do the base version and only install whats really needed01:38
ayre2only took like 30 minute to get my answer ;D beats isp helpline ;D01:38
nimakhello, newbie_at_linux01:38
philippe_linux getting fat?01:38
ayre2:P01:38
dduckoWhoa!01:38
Agamottoaxel:  When you installed, did you sudo?01:38
newbie_at_linuxnimak, hi01:39
Fletchy400mhz 64 ram01:39
philippe_ouch01:39
b|d-voradorisnt perl installed with xchat by default. why cant i load perl scripts in xchat01:39
glynwhy is an app failing to run just because I don't have the locales?01:39
kyncaniFletchy: you mean it installs too much software ?01:39
anto9usdducko: open a terminal and type free01:39
ciancihow do u move a file using the terminal?01:39
philippe_i ran it on 500mhz with 128 ram and it wasn't exactly snappy01:39
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Agamotto64megs of ram... ick01:39
philippe_you'll be running from the swap a lot01:39
nadjylatoo short01:39
anto9uscianci: mv <source> <destination>01:39
axelI've just installed Ubuntu and to install a package its asking for the root password, when i enter my user password it fails01:39
axelI've just installed Ubuntu and to install a package its asking for the root password, when i enter my user password it fails01:39
AgamottoI suppose if you stuck with Gnome, and had a fast hd....01:39
axelhow do i sudo ?01:40
nimaknewbie_at_linux: what program are you trying to run>\01:40
ciancithank u01:40
dduckoanto9us, thanks...1036452 thats a gig right...01:40
nimak?01:40
nadjylaFletchy, 128 mo ram is the really really short01:40
Agamottoglyn:  You essentially need to install linux on a different hd01:40
anto9usdducko: type free --help01:40
nadjyla64 mo ram is impossible01:40
kyncaniFletchy: i agree with nadjyla01:40
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philippe_Fletchy: you should run it old school01:40
philippe_text based01:40
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iczaven you still here?01:40
Agamottosudo apt-get install01:40
icz iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --sport 6667 --dport 6667 -j DROP01:40
LjL64mb = text based? come on guys...01:41
kyncaniFletchy: X alone will eat 20mb01:41
nadjylai have 128 ram and it s impossible, to have the last x with 64 ram01:41
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dduckoanto9us, thanks01:41
ayre2how do I know if this is working or not01:41
iczwhat is port 666701:41
philippe_LjL : have you tried it with less than 128?01:41
anto9usyw01:41
Agamotto128Meg is workable with IceWM or Sawfish01:41
jbroomeirc01:41
jbroomeicz: 6667 is irc01:41
iczlol01:41
iczand he wants to block it01:41
synackuatorhas anyone gotten gnomad2 / kzenexplorer / neutrino to work with their mp3 player??01:42
hawkinghello I have an asus A3500E laptop and when I try to install ubuntu ... everything works fine until the installation with the cd ends.. then I reboot the computer and it gets stuck when it comes to hotplug.. can anyone help?01:42
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mbirkishi... i have a usb tv card, and i found it in "device manager" as a cinergy200 thingy... but tvtime says no such device /dev/video0... how can i get it to work?01:42
kyncanis/128Meg is workable/128Meg is barely workable/01:42
LjLphilippe: i know that windows runs quite well with 64mb (all relative, of course)   :-) are you telling me that linux ABSOLUTELY wants AT LEAST 128 mb to give you a semblance of a GUI?01:42
kevmanI need to run an executible everytime my computer boots... How can i do that?01:42
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anto9ushawking: try booting with noapic01:42
philippe_LjL: Well i run ubuntu at work with 500mhz and 128, it's much slower than windows01:42
LjLphilippe: (anyway, yeah, i tried it, with less than 64 megs, but it was years ago)01:43
DjKriticalkevman: system -> preferences -> session01:43
iczaven iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --sport 6667 --dport 6667 -j DROP01:43
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iczwierd01:43
kevmanDjKritical, I think it needs to be run before X starts.01:43
LjLphilippe: perhaps ubuntu just isn't the right distro for low-spec computers, but from that to say that "linux is impossible with 64mb"...01:43
glynwhat is "metacity"?01:43
DjKriticalkevman, maybe use init.d then?01:43
philippe_for 64 meg, you can go with Damn Small linux or Gentoo or something that rocks01:43
jbroomepart of gnome01:43
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jbroomeobsd!01:43
kevmanHow?01:43
LjLglyn: a window manager, it decides what's in your windows' frames01:43
AgamottoLjL:  Ubuntu presumes 200Mhz, 128meg from the start01:44
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DjKriticalkevman, is it a service or an executable?01:44
glynthanks01:44
AgamottoFor lower spec machines, perhaps something like Fedora...01:44
kevmanexecutable.01:44
philippe_hey, quick question, any reasons why the dev team didn't put linux kernel 2.6.14?01:44
iczbah i hate fedora01:44
nadjylawith 64mo, cant use x01:44
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iczrun debian01:44
Agamottophillippe:  Stability testing?01:44
iczit will run on anything01:44
nadjylano01:44
nadjylanot x01:44
LjLagamotto: i realize that ubuntu wants decent specs, but what's been said is that01:45
philippe_Agamotto: well, 2.6.14 is no longer beta01:45
cianciwhen i go to System--Administration---networking, i don't see my wireless adapter. i did ndiswrapper01:45
iczi ran it on somthing pretty shitty01:45
LjLagamotto: i realize that ubuntu wants decent specs, but what's been said is that *linux* cannot run with 64 megs01:45
LjLagamotto: (that is, linux *and* a GUI)01:45
AgamottoFair enough01:45
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philippe_ubuntu will run beautifully from text :D01:45
nadjylalol01:45
kevmanUse AAlib.01:45
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bimberior you can use a low-resource wm like fluxbox01:45
glynI was trying to install WineCVS and It had compiled make depend and configured it01:46
glynby then it took up about 500 megs01:46
philippe_if you can live with seeing ascii pictures when surfing the web, text is for you01:46
anto9usDamn Small Linux will run on very low spec machines01:46
nadjylalol philippe_01:46
glynnow mysteriously 500 mb is gone and I tried uninstalling it and it's still gone..01:46
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n0odl3anto9us: whats wrong with that?01:46
LjLbimberi: well, to being with, if you're *really* short on memory, you can use Opie/QTopia. that's for palmtops, but it runs on desktops. i used it on my 32mb iPaq01:46
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iczyou could run trustix to01:46
anto9usn0odl3: what's wrong with what?01:46
bimberiLjL: so do i :) (H3630)01:47
philippe_but seriously, go to newegg.com, by a stick of 128 or 256 of old ram for like 15 bucks, and that will get you running ubuntu like a charm01:47
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nadjylawithn your computer , i preferer to use it with geexbox for watch some divx01:47
LjLbimberi: oh, ok :-) that's the same palmtop i had01:47
LjL(was stolen)01:47
nadjylawith 64ram, i prefer do that01:47
anto9usn0odl3: Damn Small Linux is the name of a distro, sorry if any confusion01:47
|sam|Hi, i have a question, what are evolution data-server, alarm notify and exchange storage, between them they are using 150mb of ram01:47
Agamottoglyn:  I am going to say this one more time - You really need to install Ubuntu on a different drive with more room01:47
bimberiLjL: :(01:47
philippe_hey, anybody heard of Vector linux?01:47
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LjLbimberi: how's Familiar and Opie lately? haven't been following them much since i stopped using them01:47
n0odl3anto9us: ohhh i see hahaha wow creative name01:48
mnaultya01:48
bimberiLjL: battery life is an issue01:48
philippe_I heard vector linux is pretty much the strongest linux distro out there overall01:48
bimberiLjL: very nice, i updated to opie 1.2 a few months ago01:48
hawkinganto9us : so I got to do "linux noapic" when booting right?01:48
kevmanHw can I run an executible with init.d?01:48
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varsedanggerwhat about open box is taht anygood, for a WM01:48
Agamottohawking:  yes01:49
anto9ushawking: yeah, special boot option in grub01:49
nadjylae17 rox all. yes stupid answer i know01:49
philippe_But I would never cheat on ubuntu01:49
philippe_:P01:49
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philippe_it got me hooked to linux01:50
mnaultyaya01:50
LjLbimberi: i have an ipaq 3130 now (grayscale display, 16mb, but does its job), i'd install Familiar again, but i'm using it for GPS navigation... now that's something i really can't get with linux :-\01:50
hawkinganto9us: and are you sure that will solve the problem?01:50
philippe_i know, i sound like an Ad01:50
cianci8hi can someone help me with ntdswrapper?01:50
anto9usphilippe_: ubuntu has far more lovers than any of us will ever have :)01:50
philippe_ROFL01:50
LjLbimberi: (i mean, there are some GPS-related programs, but nothing comes *anywhere* near the PocketPC navigators)01:50
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hawkinganto9us: what does noapic exactly do?01:50
iczcianci8: you just apt-get ndiswrapper01:50
iczcianci8: then type ndiswrapper --help01:50
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iczcianci8:  you need the windows driver for your wifi01:51
ayre2im in interface properties for wlan0, its enabled, but how I know if it works?01:51
bimberiLjL: yeah, it needs a smart FOSS dev to want to do it :)01:51
anto9ushawking: it sometimes makes systems boot that otherwise wouldn't ;)01:51
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cianci8icz, i did that, but when i go to system, admin, network, my divice doesn't show up01:51
LjLbimberi: the problem is maps!01:51
philippe_So anybody know how to fix shell display problems?01:51
hawkinganto9us: and is it worth removing the current fedora distro and go for ubuntu?01:51
iczcianci8: use the command line01:51
test_arg01:52
iczcianci8: sudo ifup wlan001:52
cianci8to do what? icz ?01:52
test_making menus is HARD for openbox !_!01:52
cianci8ok01:52
philippe_fedora is really not as good as ubuntu01:52
bimberiLjL: in what way? copyright?01:52
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cianci8i will try that icz01:52
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LjLbimberi: unless someone devies a way to have users generate maps (something I don't think is 100% impossible, but), writing a navigation program is going to be quite useless01:52
anto9ushawking: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APIC01:52
philippe_i don't like red-hat stuff01:52
maxsomebody help me please01:52
ayrewait it works01:52
ayreI got the net ;D01:52
ayreawesome you guys are great01:52
cianci8it says failed to bring up wlan001:52
philippe_when you tasted apt, you never go back01:52
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cianci8when i do ifup wlan001:53
LjLbimberi: yeah! how are you going to get a map for your program? i don't think navteq or teleatlas are going to give you one for an open source program01:53
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anto9ushawking: well, I have no use for fedora, I use ubuntu for Servers and Desktops01:53
Agamottophillippe_:  hear hear01:53
glynI'm trying to install Wine using a shell script that uses CVS and It got through make and make depend and got stuck on make install and there's no WineCVS or wine directory or anything yet it has taken up 500 MBs01:53
maxwhen installing linux the 3 step, he doens't detect the CD ROM01:53
ayrejust how do I keep the wireless connection working after I reboot01:53
glynhow do I erase this installation?01:53
maxcan anybody help me01:53
philippe_how is ubuntu fairing for servers?01:53
bimberi!server01:53
ubotuUbuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html01:53
mbirkishi... i have a usb tv card, and i found it in "device manager" as a cinergy200 thingy... but tvtime says no such device /dev/video0... how can i get it to work?01:53
philippe_stupid question, it's linux, it works beautifully for servers01:54
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anto9usphilippe_: it's far cleverer than I am01:54
philippe_of course01:54
nadjylagnlyn, for erase what you install with wine, erase /home/../.wine01:54
philippe_lol01:54
Agamottoglyn:  Just reformat the partitions01:54
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synackuatorhas anyone gotten gnomad2 / kzenexplorer / neutrino to work with their mp3 player??01:54
Milk_anyone here use qdvdauthor?01:54
LjLbimberi: really, the only possibility i can think of is some kind of collaborative effort where people turn on a "map generator program" while they're driving, and then send the results to some central place, after adding street names, etc01:54
ayrewhat about updates for ubuntu.. like security updates.. hows that work (please this is important)01:54
iczcianci8: # ndiswrapper -i <driver>.inf01:54
icz# ndiswrapper -l01:54
icz<driver> driver installed01:54
icz# ndiswrapper -m01:54
icz# modprobe ndiswrapper01:54
philippe_if i could just fix that stupid display problem from the shell01:54
LjLbimberi: but i don't think many people would agree that this has a chance of working01:55
maxwhen installing linux the 3 step, he doens't detect the CD ROM01:55
maxcan anybody help me01:55
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bimberiLjL: perhaps, although there's a lot of mapping information owned by public organisations which might be accessible.  OK, we're OT and should cease :)01:55
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LjLbimberi: you mean vmap0? :)01:55
ecobuntuwill there ever be breezy backports?01:56
bimberiLjL: no01:56
bimberimax: is your bios set to boot off CD?01:56
Milk_I'm getting this error.. and not sure where to go:   ERR:  no .ifo file to process01:56
philippe_ubuntu is slow to get out official documentation01:56
glynAgamotto:the user is too stubborn and lazy to do that...right now, anyways01:56
iczbah01:56
glynAgamotto:I just want to clean up this installation01:56
maxbimberi  he runs the boot in the cd01:56
iczphilippe: the user forums are awsome01:57
Mezecobuntu, eventuall,y yes01:57
maxbut when installing says that doens't found01:57
bimberimax: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto01:57
iczphilippe: best documentation ever01:57
cianci8icz ,when i get to the final part: modprobe ndiswrapper, it says error inserting ndiswrapper, operation not permitted ?01:57
NoUse!faq01:57
ubotuThe Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation, or http://help.ubuntu.com01:57
Agamottoglyn:  sudo apt-get clean01:57
iczcianci8: even when you sudo?01:57
DjKriticald'oh.. I just locked my firewall remotely!... now I can't reconnect!01:57
glynthat didn't work..still 0 bytes of space..heh01:57
philippe_icz: they are nice, but i've submitted three inquiries so far, an i have had no answers so far01:57
cianciyes, icz01:57
varsedanggerhow could i write a shell script that uses su?01:58
maxbimberi i can't install how i do that01:58
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ayreis there a cmd to update ubuntu01:58
iczcianci8: ill look into it, ive had it working before but i just bought a new card cause ndiswrapper sucks01:58
philippe_apt-get update01:58
iczcianci8: what card do you have?01:58
philippe_sudo apt-get update01:58
Agamottoayre sudo apt-get update01:58
ayreI did that, it says: Reading package lists... Done01:59
AgamottoDoesn't anyone read the help files or guides anymore?01:59
philippe_that means there are no udates01:59
iczayre: get a proper source-list01:59
cianciicz, it's  LinksysWUSB54G (USB) wireless adapter01:59
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Wellycan anyone suggest a way of creating an ISO image from a directory of files?01:59
ayreicz: no idea what your talking about.. just started linux like 20 minutes ago01:59
bimberimax: ok, check the md5sum using windows (or whatever) then01:59
AgamottoWelly:  Use K3B or another burning program, select your dirs with files, and go01:59
philippe_how many sources do you have ayre?02:00
Wellyagamotto, brilliant, thank you02:00
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iczcianci8: have you tried http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu02:00
ayrephilippe_: I dont know man lol02:01
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philippe_ayre: ok start synaptic02:01
ayredone02:01
iczayre: cat /etc/apt/source-list02:01
bimberiWelly: or just use nautilus by copying the dir to Go->CD/DVD_Creator and then hit Write to disk and select File image02:01
cianciyes i have, icz ,about the windows driver part, can u explain how i should do that?02:01
philippe_then go to settings an then repositories02:01
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ciancibut i think i did that correctly already02:01
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iczcianci8: what is the step #02:02
ayreicz: no file or di02:02
ayreicz: no file or directory*02:02
iczayre: lol i have no idea then02:02
ciancii have the driver on the desktop, now what do i do?02:02
philippe_ayre: go to settings and repositories02:02
ayrewhere is that philippe_02:02
philippe_ayre in synaptic02:03
ayrenvm02:03
ayreyea sorry got it ;)02:03
gpledlooking for a good MPEG-4 player02:03
NoUsegpled mplayer02:03
philippe_ayre then on the right there should be an "add" button02:03
djbrieckIs there a way to right side align desktop icons?02:03
philippe_ayre: add them all02:03
djbrieckin gnome02:03
Wellybimberi: thanks, useful tip!02:03
ayreahhh now we're talking ;D02:04
varsedanggergpled, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106102:04
ayrethanks bro02:04
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iczcianci8: ok cd /home/youruser/Desktop02:04
djbrieckIs there a way to right side align desktop icons in gnome on the desktop?02:04
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iczcianci8: then sudo ndiswrapper -i YOURWIFI.INF02:04
philippe_ayre: then select each of them in the list, and then fill out basically all the squares for each type of source02:04
iczcianci8: i think there might be somthing wrong with breezy and ndis though02:04
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philippe_that will give you the maximum number of sources that is already included in ubuntu02:05
iczcianci8: cause i dont remeber it being that dificult02:05
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philippe_i've tried adding more using other sources, but they don't work02:05
ayrephilippe_ I selected all of them but what squares do I fill out?02:05
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ayrelike I can select them but I dont see no squares02:05
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bimberiWelly: yw :)02:06
philippe_ayre fill them all02:06
ayrewhen I add them you mean?02:06
cianciicz, the driver is already installed, now what should i do?02:06
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philippe_ayre yes02:06
ayrelike non-free and shit like that?02:06
iczcianci8: can you modprobe ndiswrapper?02:07
philippe_clic on settings, and select all the options you want, but the first one will give you more choices02:07
kevmanOK, can someone tell me what I put in a sh script to make it execute a single executible?02:07
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varsedanggergpled, are you still here?02:07
EasterSunshinethe name of the command you wish to execute?02:07
ayreicz: I cant get ndis to startup, I gotta redo it every time02:07
philippe_ayre: and then try updating again02:07
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iczayre: sudo ndiswrapper -m02:08
iczayre: that will make it run at startup02:09
philippe_what does ndiswrapper do?02:09
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iczphilippe_: allows you to use a windows driver for an unsupported wifi02:09
philippe_oh cool02:09
philippe_linux rocks02:09
iczcianci8: i think i know your prob02:09
Lord_Maynothanyone know what was wrong with the website???02:09
ruinevilreally unsupported network card of any sort02:09
ayreyea linux does rock02:10
ayrethis shit is awesome02:10
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cianciicz ,this is what i get when i type in ifup wlan0: Failed to bring up wlan002:10
iczcianci8: put your driver in a permenent spot then run sudo ndiswrapper -l02:10
ayreruns fast too02:10
cianciok02:10
philippe_runs hella fats02:10
glynI'm having problems with a freak installation using WineCVS.sh, it made, made depend, and it got stuck on make install and it ate up 500 megs of disk space..now there's no directory to delete or anything and it seems like 500mb just disappeared02:10
cianciit says: invalid drivers??02:10
iczcianci8: then run sudo ndiswrapper -i /full/path/to/driver02:10
gpledvarsedangger: yep.  i had a real good one, but reinstalled.  cant remember the name.  think it started with an s02:10
philippe_i did internet benchmarks on the same computer, with windows and with linux, and linux got consistently twice the results02:10
nopeaI just install 5.04 again for the first time in a while - I forgot... which file was it to open up the other rep. in synaptic manager?02:10
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nopeafile to edit I mean02:11
gpledgot it from synaptic02:11
Guest27127mahangu hello02:11
bimberinopea: /etc/apt/sources.list02:11
nopeabimberi, cheers02:11
bimberinopea: np :)02:11
iczcianci8: sory run ndiswrapper -e nameofyourdriver02:11
varsedanggeri've really like mplayer, i just updated my sources.list and apt-got mplayer it does everything02:11
cianciok...02:11
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philippe_inn breeze badger, you don't want to edit that /etc/apt/source.list02:11
iczcianci8: then ndiswrapper -l02:11
varsedanggergpled,02:11
iczcianci8: then run sudo ndiswrapper -i /full/path/to/driver02:12
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Toma-you know you can edit your sources.list from synaptic right?02:12
iczcianci8: hope that works02:12
bimberiphilippe_: why not?02:12
nopeais 5.10 any better than 5.04?02:12
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iczphillipe: i edit it all the time02:12
iczphillipe: lol02:12
philippe_bimberi: because there are no backports to add for breeze02:12
ngutwirthhey guys i got a q how would i go about installing a .deb file?02:12
ayredo I need any AV or something?02:12
philippe_and it just screws things up02:12
Toma-ngutwirth: try "man dpkg"02:12
ngutwirthtoma where would i try this?02:13
Toma-itll tell you all you need to know02:13
ngutwirthi dont know anything about linux02:13
Toma-in a terminal02:13
ngutwirthok02:13
iczngut: dpkg -i name.deb02:13
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philippe_i tried adding repositores using the wiki tutorial, and it just didn't work out02:13
iczngut: but toma is right learn to use man or command --help02:13
bimberiphilippe_: well that's probably a problem with the tutorial02:13
ngutwirthumm02:13
philippe_true02:13
ngutwirthwhere do i learn this?02:14
cianciicz , when i do sudo ndiswrapper -l , all the drivers i put for it say: invalid driver02:14
ngutwirthdo i search google?02:14
cianciand i got them from the driver cd02:14
ngutwirthbrb02:14
glynI'm having problems with a freak installation using WineCVS.sh, it made, made depend, and it got stuck on make install and it ate up 500 megs of disk space..now there's no directory to delete or anything and it seems like 500mb just disappeared02:14
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philippe_but anyhow, i do it from synaptic since it knows all it's sources02:14
Toma-ngutwirth: if you need to know something about a specific command, run "man <command>" and itll tell you all you need to know02:14
Jinxdhi im having problems setting up my broadcom (bcmwl5.inf) 54g on my new ubuntu install, have installed ndiswrapper fine, and loaded driver, just can't find wlan0 ?02:14
philippe_that way i don't mess things up02:14
iczcianci: dont type anything after -l02:14
anto9uscianci: use the .inf file02:14
philippe_linux is not something i want to end up having to fix02:14
iczbroadcom works fine native02:14
bimberiphilippe_: but yes, doing it through synaptic is "safer" :)02:15
Jinxdwell mine isn't working that's for sure :)02:15
ColD_7where can i get more theme?02:15
iczim using broadcalm as we speak02:15
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Jinxdwell help me set it up then please :)02:15
hsc2104can anyone tell me how to copy files from desktop to my /usr/local folder?02:15
hsc2104it doesn't let me simply drag the file into the folder using my mouse for some reason02:15
philippe_one thing i did notice with linux, is that you don't get many problems, but when you do get a serious problem, your in for very long ride02:15
Jinxdi'm on amd64 - suppose that might be the problem?02:16
uenyiohais there an mplayer for amd64_linux02:16
glynah I solved my own problem--had to uninstall the source tree02:16
ruinevilprolly recompile it urself02:16
uenyiohai cant seem to find one with aptitude02:16
ruinevil>.>02:16
bimberiphilippe_: benefitting from http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic is easier if you edit sources.list02:16
anto9ushsc2104: sudo cp -r <source> /usr/local/02:16
lordrmafter using NX to log in remotely, my gnome desktop is screwed up. lots of icons are changed or missing, fonts are different, and several parts of the theme are reset and I can't change them.02:16
Toma-hsc2104: why do you want to do that? use "sudo cp -r ~/Desktop/Yourilename /usr/local"02:16
iczjinxd: 1 sec checking for module name02:16
Jinxdk thanks02:16
hsc2104i downloaded a file to my desktop and simply put it into one of my folders02:17
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philippe_oh cool a source-o-matic02:17
iczjinxd: modprobe r816902:17
philippe_i always wanted one of those for christmas02:17
cevizogluis there support for rtsp:// in breezy?02:17
hsc2104is there a way to configure gnome so i can drag/drop into another folder?02:17
lordrmis there any way I can reset the look to fix this?02:17
Jinxdicz, done - now what? :)02:17
philippe_thanks bimberi02:18
iczjinxd: that worked?02:18
bimberiphilippe_: sorry, i should have waited a month before telling you :P02:18
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iczjinxd: ok now do ifconfig02:18
dropperhi!02:18
Jinxdicz, nope just eth0, lo02:18
bimberiphilippe_: yw :)02:18
dropperanyone got the latest version 0.8 of MonoDevelop working with breezy?02:18
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iczjinxd: ok now try sudo ifup eth102:18
cianciicz, i installed the drivers, i have ndiswrapper running, how can i now try to use the wireless adapter?02:18
philippe_is the two letter code for united states US?02:18
iczcianci: yes02:18
Jinxdicz, unknown interface eth102:18
iczjinxd: ok try ifup wlan002:19
ayreill be back02:19
ayrethanks guys02:19
ayre<302:19
cianciwhen i go to networking, wlan0 doesn't show up02:19
iczcianci: might be a eth02:19
nimakdo you have your wireless card set up?02:19
bimberiphilippe_: yes02:19
EmergeTWthis may be a dumb question, but I really dont feel like installing debian and comparing everything myself, but... what are the real differences between Ubuntu and Debian? does Ubuntu have better hardware autodetect and setup? what other advantages does Ubuntu have? I am really thinking of installing debian instead right now...02:20
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Jinxdicz, unknown interface wlan002:20
ruinevilubuntu is easier to use02:20
iczhmm02:20
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ruineviland harder to screw up02:20
PotterwinsHiya02:20
nimakEmergeTW: i like debian more, but ubuntu is easier02:20
varsedanggerhey i am apt-getting rosegarden4 it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop and gdm?02:20
Potterwinsdoes anybody know if i have to mount my floppy drive?02:20
iczjinxd: cat /etc/network/interfaces02:20
glynhehe I still screwed up Ubuntu02:20
varsedanggerwont't that wreck stuff02:20
varsedangger?02:20
iczjinxd: may need to set that up in there02:20
patrick_can anyone point me to somewhere I can download libcurl2-dev for breezy?02:20
nimakvarsedangger: dont02:20
ruinevilhmmmm02:21
ruinevilwell02:21
glynvarse:what is rosegarden4?02:21
cianciicz, when i go to device manager, it comes up, but eveything says unknown02:21
dropperI take it noone knows? or did you all miss the question ?02:21
ruinevilif u have no desktop manager02:21
Jinxdicz, i tried setting wlan0 up in there and i get binding errors on ifup wlan002:21
glyndunno dropper02:21
hsc2104can anyone tell this newbie how to configure gnome to be able to drag/drop files from one folder to another?02:21
hsc2104using a mouse?02:21
ruinevilu can still run xorg02:21
iczjinxd: hmm we are close give me a minute02:21
Jinxdicz, righto :)02:21
ruinevildrag...and drop?02:21
glyncan someone direct me to a good warez channel?  he he02:21
ruinevilor cut and paste02:21
NoUsehsc2104 that is enabled by default02:21
Potterwinsso does anyone know if you have to mount your floppy drive02:21
iczwarez on linux02:21
iczlol02:21
dropperthanx glyn :-)02:21
anto9uscianci: for a wep setup, sudo iwconfig wlan0 ESSID <access point> key encrypted s:<password> or <passkey>02:22
Potterwinsmy media folder shows me two floppy's02:22
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Potterwinsbut when i try to view a floppy it shows no data02:22
dropperany channels I can try?02:22
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hsc2104NoUse for some reason i don't have the permission to do that02:22
iczcianci: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82040 go here02:22
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cianciit says wlan0 is an unknown device02:22
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EmergeTWnimak, I am someone who has used Gentoo for yeaars and ubuntu is driving me nuts02:22
varsedanggerrosegarden is a music notaion software02:22
varsedanggerEmergeTW, why02:22
varsedangger?02:22
dduckoI love linux... Ubuntu especially... sorry just had to state that.. now time for some pizza02:22
anto9uscianci:sorry, should read for a wep setup, sudo iwconfig wlan0 ESSID <access point> key restricted s:<password> or <passkey>02:22
nimakyou are likely to like debian02:23
Potterwinsisn't rosegarden multichannel midi/wav recording software?02:23
Baaldoes anyone know how to install getopt on Ubuntu 5.10?  I am trying to compile a screensaver and it tells me that getopt is missing.02:23
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NoUsehsc2104 you can't drag files into folders outside your home directory02:23
varsedanggerPotterwins, yes02:23
ruinevilummm02:23
ruinevilsee if its on apt-get02:23
ruinevildo like an apt-get search02:23
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Potterwinsi'm looking forward to giving that a try myself varsedangger02:23
dropperhow can I get more themes for my standard Ubuntu??02:23
ruinevilor someting02:23
hsc2104i'm trying to drag it from the desktop to my home directory02:23
ruinevilwell02:23
philippe_holy crap, my computer is fully up to date02:23
varsedanggerwhy does apt-get want to remove my precious files?02:23
NoUsehsc2104 what error do you get?02:23
sellstritium: hey Mike02:23
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philippe_i have the most bleeding edge ubuntu on the planet02:23
BaalIt is not on apt-get.  I think it is installed, but perhaps in a non-standard place.02:23
ruineviluse cut and paste02:23
ruinevilif drag and drop doesnt work02:24
maxwich type of partition I use??????02:24
ruinevilsince it does the same thing02:24
EmergeTWvarsedangger, various problems, all revolving around certain packages not being availible in Ubuntu, and support for certain things like mp3s in certain programs being a pain in the butt to fix02:24
dropperphilippe_,  : Why>>?02:24
AgamottoWell, I am out of here - timeto take out the eyeballs02:24
maxfat 32??02:24
cianciwhen i type in sudo iwconfig, it says no wireless extensions??02:24
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Potterwinsso anyone have any ideas on getting my floppy to work02:24
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ruinevilsee if u can use reiser02:24
nimakEmergeTW: grab debian02:24
anto9uscianci: the driver module isn't loaded02:24
hsc2104Nouse it says "Error while copying to "/usr/local/Matlab02:24
Potterwinsor are you all gonna force me to have to boot back into windows?02:24
iczjinxd: is your card a netgear?02:24
shinui have a slight problem with kismet. it doesnt want to read my config file. i created /usr/local/etc/kismet.conf containing: source=rt8180,wlan0,dwl and it doesnt work...02:24
ruinevili hear ext3 sucks02:24
varsedanggerohh02:24
philippe_dropper: my computer is fully updated02:24
shinuwhen i run kismet -c source=rt8180,wlan0,dwl  then its alright...02:24
iczjinxd: apperently you may need the ndiswrapper to02:24
Jinxdicz, i dunno what it is, it's built into my Acer Aspire laptop02:24
TheblueHi all.02:24
NoUsehsc2104 thats not your home directory02:25
cianciand then when i type sudo iwconig wlan0 it says no such device02:25
EmergeTWnimak, I am burning the cd now lol02:25
droppermine too.. :0) according to update manager>02:25
iczjinxd: oh ok02:25
TheblueI'm on a box that absolutely refuses to boot from a CD.02:25
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nimakEmergeTW: cool02:25
Jinxdicz, i know its a broadcom though02:25
philippe_dropper: plus it seems i'm one of the rare ones to have a succesful 64 bit installs02:25
PotterwinsHelp02:25
Potterwinslol02:25
TheblueDoes anyone know of a way to make a boot floppy that will let me boot from the CD to install Hoary?02:25
maxhey help me please02:25
Baalapt-get search brings up several packages with getopt and I have tried all of them but none work.02:25
iczjinxd: you may need the ndiswrapper to (i hate that) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78700&page=202:25
maxwich type of partition I use??????02:25
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maxfat 32??02:25
FletchI installed the normal/full installation of ubuntu and it runs too slow on my old 400mhz 64mb ram computer and I was wondering if its possible to remove gnome and just have a window manager, or whatever will make it faster02:25
Lord_MaynothHey... do you guys think Dapper will autodetect your windows partitions and name them something meaningful like C:, D:, etc...?02:25
bibehi02:25
maxEXT 2 ?02:25
iczjinx: try that link02:25
WiltukHey guys, for some reason, kacpid periodicly takes up near enough 100% of my cpu, effectively locking up my system...does anybody know how I could kill this process? I've tried putting acpi=off at boot, but I can't get past the login screen with it off :(02:25
iczext302:25
iczlol02:25
maxjournal ext 3?02:25
hsc2104Nouse how do i get permission to this directory?02:26
Jinxdicz, i've tried ndiswrapper -i windowsdriver.inf, modprobe ndiswrapper and still the same :\02:26
dduckoFletch, do a server install02:26
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bibecan i use rp-pppoe on ubuntu or is tehre a better way for dsl setup? (it's a server without X)02:26
NoUsehsc2104 you to use sudo, but why do you need to copy something to that directory?02:26
dduckoFletch, then get a window manger like Ice02:26
hsc2104i'm trying to install Matlab that i downloaded from the web02:26
Fletchdducko, tried that, but I had too much trouble with installing things because it doesn't have the internet02:26
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dduckoOH.. ouch02:26
hsc2104and the default download is to the desktop02:26
FletchAnd Id have to download SO many dependancies02:26
iczjinxd: well maby your card is really not supported02:26
Fletch:|02:27
TheblueDoes anyone know of a way to make a boot floppy that will let me boot from the CD to install Hoary?02:27
Baalexit02:27
iczjinxd: what distro did you install with??02:27
NoUsehsc2104 you'll either need to run nautilus via sudo or use the command line to copy it via suod02:27
varsedanggeris there a good music notiation edititng program for gnome?02:27
iczjinxd: originally02:27
Lord_Maynothanyone know what the dev channel is?02:27
nimakvarsedangger: audacity02:27
nadjylavarsedangger, audicity or sweep02:27
FletchAm i screwed then dducko?02:27
hsc2104NoUse can you tell me how to run nautilus via sudo?02:27
Jinxdicz, erm...windows? :) i've only just isntalled ubuntu breazy (dual booting)02:27
nadjylaif i understand02:27
iczjinxd: and it didnt ask you to configure wifi at the start of the install?02:28
Jinxdicz, nope02:28
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NoUsehsc2104 open a terminal and type sudo nautilus02:28
iczjinxd: interesting02:28
maxprimary or logic???02:28
iczjinxd: guess you have to use the wrapper then02:28
Jinxdicz, if you say so :)02:28
maxuse partition primary or logic??02:28
Jinxdicz, but i've tried and it's not having any of it02:28
maxi got xp too02:28
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ruinevildoesnt really matter02:29
ruinevilif u use logic or primary02:29
hsc2104NoUse I typed "sudo nautilus" and then my password in terminal, but still get the same error02:29
ruineviltho u can only have 4 primary partitions02:29
iczjinxd: follow this form http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2568302:29
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NoUsehsc2104 you need to copy using only the window that opens when you run that command02:29
iczit should work if you acctuall do have a broadcalm02:29
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jonnyhey, my DVD playback is jerky, anyway to fix this?02:30
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iczif not by a supported wifi card because ndis sucks anyway02:30
NoUse!tell jonny about dma02:30
iczyou can only use your card in b02:30
hsc2104NoUse was there supposed to be a window that automatically opens with that command?  I didn't ge any...02:30
jonnythanks, NoUse02:30
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NoUsehsc2104 try gksudo nautilus02:31
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ruinevilis nautilus installed02:31
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hsc2104i gat the message that says02:31
ruineviland are you running gnome?02:31
hsc2104(nautilus:8330): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:02:31
hsc2104Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.02:31
Jinxdicz, think i've found the problem... aparently you need and Acer app to actually turn the wifi on, becuase in windows i have to press a button on the front of laptop to turn it on02:31
NoUsehsc2104 don't paste in here02:31
iczjinxd: anyway sorry for not being helpfull i know that ndiswrapper stuff is frustrating i went through it a few times with my msi card, thats when i went and bought a net gear02:31
hsc2104oh okay02:31
hsc2104sorry02:31
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glynanyone know where I can get the cedega demo off the transgaming website?02:32
iczjinxd: yeh that may be it02:32
NoUsehsc2104 its easier to just use the command line; sudo cp yourfile /usr/local/bin02:32
iczjinxd: see if you can find a form about your exact laptop that usually works02:32
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Jinxdicz, following some instructions i found on a random website - i'll keep you updated :)02:32
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Jinxdicz, i'll try that too, thanyou02:33
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wastrelhello. i've installed ventrilo using the instructions found here:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737&highlight=ventrilo   but am getting no sound02:33
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ecobuntuis dapper more unstable than sid?02:33
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ruinevildapper?02:33
jbroomedapper is more unstable than my mother in law02:34
plandhey all02:34
ruinevilmeh02:34
r0bbyhEY!02:34
r0bbyshe's not unstable02:34
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r0bbyshe's just quirky02:34
Inconnudapper drake ruinevil02:34
r0bbydon't use dapper if you don't want instability02:34
r0bbypersonally02:34
ecobuntuno but seriously...is it more unstable than sid?02:34
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r0bbya lil instability never killed anybody02:34
ecobuntuthat's just my question02:34
r0bbyecobuntu, find out02:34
ruinevilsid is testing02:34
ecobuntur0bby:  hmm...02:35
ruineviland dapper is unstable02:35
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ecobuntusid is unstable02:35
ecobuntuetch is testing02:35
Potterwinsknock02:35
Potterwinsknock02:35
Potterwinsknock02:35
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Potterwinsanybody home?02:35
Potterwinslol02:35
prasysno02:35
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jbAUBOO!02:35
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Potterwinsdoes anybody know if i have to mount my floppy drive02:35
prasyshehehehehe02:35
prasyshello Potterwins02:35
jbAUmount /dev/fda1 /mnt/floppy02:35
varsedanggerdoes any one run kubuntu?02:35
Potterwinshi prasys02:35
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prasysvarsedangger, i do (kubuntu ppc)02:36
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jbAUcat /dev/null > /dev/fda02:36
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varsedanggeris it any good?02:36
Potterwinsi found my floppy in /media........ but it doesn't appear to have the right properties02:36
ecobuntu#kubuntu02:36
jbAUproperties?02:36
ecobuntuthe best place to ask about kde02:36
jbAUwho needs stinking prooperties02:36
ecobuntubut i've run kubuntu02:36
prasysvarsedangger, join #kubuntu02:36
hsc2104Nouse thank you for your help02:36
Potterwinswell it contains info about one of my harddrives02:36
wastrelany ideas on ventrilo?02:36
ecobuntui think kde3.5 is great!02:36
jbAUo_002:37
ecobuntubut not as good as gnome 2.1202:37
prasysKDE 3.5 is really great02:37
varsedanggerthat is good02:37
prasysi depends..QT or GTK+02:37
ecobuntutons of EYE CANDY!02:37
prasysvarsedangger, i am running kubuntu on my mac mini02:37
Doonzl02:37
jbAUGreat for laughing at!02:37
ruinevili wish the ubuntu live cd has useful programs on it02:37
CuriousCatWould anyone know what's the difference between the desktop and the server iso's?02:37
ruinevilhad02:37
jbAUCuriousCat: bugger all02:38
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ecobuntui think it's funny how some people really love gnome or kde but not both...i enjoy them both and xfce02:38
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jbAUCuriousCat: just type 'server' on a desktop install and that's ur server install02:38
prasysecobuntu, i prefer ICEWM02:38
iczcuriuscat: if you want a server install debian02:38
ecobuntuapt-get install xubuntu-desktop (for a ligther flavor)02:38
iczcuriuscat: ubuntu is unsecure02:38
kyncanilet's start a troll war, i join the icewm party02:38
ecobuntuicewm is good02:38
prasysCuriousCat, server does not contain any X desktop envoriment02:38
ruinevilkde is a processor and ram whore02:38
PotterwinsjbAU,  it tells me i must specify filesystem type02:38
ecobuntucuriuscat: ubuntu can comes as a server02:38
ecobuntutype server when you load it02:38
ecobuntufrom cd02:38
jbAUPotterwins: it will be fat1202:38
ecobuntuvfat32?02:39
SEJeffAnyone want to help with a simple python question?02:39
varsedanggercan someone send me an mp3?02:39
jbAUPotterwins: but that should automagically detect so i think it's the wrong place02:39
n0odl3i agree with ruinevil02:39
n0odl3use openbox alone!02:39
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jbAUFLUXBOX FTW!02:39
n0odl3its the best02:39
ecobuntui agree with ruinevil too but if you got the power go for it!02:39
blackgibsonI prefer the look of gtk over qt therefore i'm a Gnome guy at home. xfce at work though02:39
n0odl3what fluxbox is the suck02:39
truthADjusterHello cyberspace1102:39
jbAUn0odl3: qft - fluxbox is the best02:39
medgnoSEJeff, sure, I can try02:39
prasysgosh..why all the X desktop envoriment wars here02:39
ecobuntufluxbox is awesome!02:39
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CuriousCatso the server install from the desktop CD is practically the same as the ubuntu server iso?02:39
ecobuntui think they are all great02:39
n0odl3what flux box is slower than open box02:40
ruinevili run blackbox on windows02:40
ruinevilso yea02:40
prasysSummary : All X Desktop Envoriment has its own pros and cons02:40
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varsedanggeranyone?02:40
jbAUI run textmode02:40
ruinevili like the boxes02:40
ecobuntui think that's what makes linux gnu awesome!02:40
n0odl3openbox uses so little is the cool02:40
prasysvarsedangger, mp3 ?02:40
SEJeffmedgno: http://pastebin.com/415547 Line 30 gives me KeyError: '' error02:40
varsedanggeryeah02:40
truthADjusterquestion: does anybody here using ubuntu in a PIC electronic application?02:40
prasysecobuntu, i have to agree with you02:40
dropperanyone know how to setup a php MySql mono webserver on Ubuntu Breezy for development02:40
jonnyDVD playback is very quite, any reason?02:40
varsedanggerprasys, yeah, just one02:40
blackgibsonE17 looks spiffy too. its even half usable02:40
SEJeffmedgno: But it works perfectly in the interpreter if I just try WORDS[word] 02:40
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ecobuntushit i could run gnome, kde, xfce, openbox, fluxbox, window manager, if i wantec02:40
prasysdropper, try xampp for linux02:40
ecobuntuwanted/wantec02:40
ecobuntunot just MS windows shit02:40
n0odl3hehe02:40
iczwhy would you do that?02:40
n0odl3i agree with ecobuntu02:40
varsedanggerhow do you run two desktops at once02:40
ecobuntugdesklets are awesome02:40
prasysecobuntu, and Aqua too02:40
n0odl3windows is t3h suck02:41
SEJeffecobuntu: language dude.02:41
varsedanggerecobuntu, yeah02:41
iczi think xfce will rock02:41
prasysvarsedangger, define two desktops please02:41
sellsto ssh what is the default port that it uses02:41
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SEJeffsells: 22 tcp02:41
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dropperprasys, Whats xampp??02:41
truthADjusterquestion: anybody here using Linux in general in a PIC microcontroller application?02:41
ruinevili play around with gentoo02:41
ecobuntuSEJeff: serious?02:41
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sellsSEJeff, thanks02:41
ruinevilbut i still do all my work in windows02:41
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jonnydoes anyone know why my DVD playback is so very quite?02:41
prasysdropper, all in one tool for configuring php, mysql and apache 2 (comes with extras too) , google for it02:41
ruinevillinux is there for me to waste time02:41
SEJeffecobuntu: yes02:42
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ruinevilnot actually accomplish anything02:42
ecobuntuha ha ha02:42
n0odl3lame02:42
prasysdropper, if you prefer to do it by yourself..use apt-get to fetch the packages and configure it yourself02:42
jonnyruinevil: what do u mean?02:42
iczruin: why? i do all my work in ubuntu02:42
iczruin: so does my girlfriend02:42
varsedanggersay i wanted to hit ctl + alt + F3 i think i should be able to type xdm or gdm and open up another session?02:42
ruinevili could do my work02:42
iczruin: i have a windows box to waste time02:42
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ruinevilon gentoo02:42
iczruin: play games and fight viruses02:42
iczlol02:42
ruinevilbut i like word02:42
prasysthe only reason why i use windows...mainly for games02:42
jonnyruinevil: gentoos linux!02:42
ruinevilover abiword and openoffice02:43
ecobuntuis aqua a window manager?02:43
n0odl3ruinevil: then use vi02:43
prasysecobuntu, Aqua is a Window Manager for OSX02:43
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ecobunturuinevil: crossoffice?02:43
LjLKOffice? :)02:43
anto9usI noticed MS are including the Geniune Product Validator in win2k updates now, I think that idea will turn around and bite MS where it hurts02:43
iczruin: inst i was just about to say that ecob02:43
iczlol02:43
prasysOpenOffice !02:43
jonnyboth are available for ubuntu, ruinevil02:43
iczwine for office apps02:43
n0odl3ruin: i love open office02:43
ruinevilmeh02:44
iczyou can use cedega to run games02:44
ecobuntucrossoffice 5.0 can now support MS Office 200302:44
SEJeffanto9us: And the great 'new' feature known as licensing 6.0 for win2k302:44
ruinevilit took me 5 years to learn all the little intricacies of word02:44
ruinevilim gonna use it02:44
ruineviluntil they screw with it02:44
blackgibsonI unfortunatley need to use Windows for work. sucks but that is how it is for the time being02:44
iczruin: he is saying you can use word in linux02:44
Seveasruinevil, in Office 12 word has been 'redesigned'02:44
ruineviltomshardware said that office 12 will strike fear in the hearts of men02:44
ecobuntui use ubuntu at work!02:44
jonnyanything but GNOME doesnt work with my screen!!02:44
anto9usSEJeff: all good news for opensource advocates like us02:44
sellsSEJeff, I am using gftp, where are the RSA fingerprints kept02:44
jonnyanyone know why?02:44
ruinevilblame xorg02:44
ruinevilits all xorg's fault02:45
ecobuntuit's good to be a grad. student, sometimes02:45
varsedanggerprasys, was my deffinition allright?02:45
SEJeffsells: look under ~/.gftp02:45
prasysbbl later folks , catch ya02:45
ecobuntui use R and i think i am going to try and use QGIS02:45
prasysvarsedangger, yeah02:45
blackgibsonid like to see Audacity get alot better02:45
blackgibsonthat would make me a happy man02:45
sellsSEJeff: thanks02:45
prasysblackgibson, don't worry it will grow02:45
jonnynothing but GNOME doesnt work with my screen!!02:45
prasysblackgibson, OSS projects needs some time..just wait and eventually it will grow02:45
iczi work for a linux company and use windows02:45
iczlol02:45
ecobuntujonny: what's the matter?02:45
ecobuntujonny:  be more specific02:45
iczbut they gave me a laptop02:45
ecobuntusudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:45
ecobuntu?02:45
blackgibsonprasys: or they get abandoned ;) IM just holding out hope ;)02:45
varsedanggericzwaht company?02:46
varsedanggericz,02:46
jonnyecobuntu, the resolution seems to small, but it is not02:46
iczAstaro02:46
prasysblackgibson, if you guys do support the project , it will not ever get abandoned02:46
ecobuntujonny:  can you change resolution?02:46
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ecobuntujonny:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:46
jonnyecobuntu: I did, but that helped not!02:46
jonnyecobuntu: that is resolution02:47
ecobuntujonny:  what kind of monitor?  or computer02:47
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labhow do I change folder permissions on /media/windows ?02:47
iczedit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file till it works02:47
iczlol02:47
ecobuntuchown username /media/windows02:47
jonnyerr...17 inch lcd, and dimension 240002:47
blackgibsonprasys: Support is tricky for Audacity for me. I cannot use it for real world work yet. I do have it installed and tinker with it to keep tabs on progress though02:48
prasyschmod 777 , lab02:48
prasyslab, unless its NTFS , you can't do anything02:48
jayHey people, how can I make it that one user can kill another user's process, provided that it's a specific process, and theyre in the same group ?02:48
iczvarse: where do you work>02:48
labit is ntfs02:48
ecobuntujonny:  what kind of computer?02:48
labbut I want to be able to look at it02:48
laband play files02:48
jayomg. ntfs n00bs. lol02:48
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prasyslol02:48
prasysuse FAT32 and you would be happy02:48
prasyslab, you can only *read*/*see* NTFS files02:48
jayyes I run my windows on fat3202:48
iczvarsedangger: where do you work>02:48
wastrelHi, I installed ventrilo using the instructions here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737&page=3&highlight=ventrilo.  but i'm getting no sound, what should i check?02:48
jayand you should too02:48
ecobuntuyeah fat32 is much better02:48
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ruinevillinux and ntfs is like mixing water and electricity02:48
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jaylonghorn refuses to install on NTFS though02:48
labok jay02:48
labwhatever though02:48
ruinevili still dont trust the ntfs writer02:48
LjLfat32 better than ntfs?!02:48
prasysthank god , ubuntu supports Mac's HFS+ file system and so does OSX02:48
ruinevilno02:49
labso how do I read only ?02:49
cozI was curious if any of you guys are also on the BeShare chat02:49
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ruinevilntfs journals02:49
prasysdon't ever try captive-ntfs , yes it does work..but soon you would regert using it02:49
jonnyecobuntu: dell dimension 240002:49
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blackgibsoneh, fat32 inst a great fileysystem by any stretch of the imagination02:49
labchmod 747 ?02:49
sellsSEJeff: hey man, got a second02:49
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blackgibsonit is just better supported on Linux02:49
LjLah, ok02:49
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jayHey people, how can I make it that one user can kill another user's process, provided that it's a specific process, and theyre in the same group ?02:49
iczlinux supports many file systems02:49
ruinevilthats just mean02:49
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LjLi mean, ntfs is a fine filesystem, and fat32 is a terrible filesystem02:50
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iczlike reiserfs02:50
cozwell ia m not an expert but everything is working on ubuntu forme so If I can help I will try02:50
ruinevilntfs used to be better02:50
jayreiserfs is bad ???02:50
jonnyecobuntu: any ideas?02:50
ruineviluntil they allowed compressing02:50
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SEJeffsells: maybe02:50
blackgibsonFat32: no permissions, no journaling, easily fragmented...02:50
blackgibsonhow is that good?02:50
ruinevilthen ntfs because buggy02:50
SEJeffsells: I stay pretty busy :P02:50
iczjay: no its not bad its fast02:50
sellsSEJeff: cant rememer how to get into gftp02:50
iczjay: but is not great02:50
prasysThere is no prefect file system that I have ever seen02:50
jayic I hear XFS is a monster02:50
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kevogodFAT32 is only fast below 4GB02:50
sellsSEJeff: to check and change the keys02:50
ecobuntuhold on i'll check02:50
LjLruin: did it? personally, compression has been very useful to me, not sure about added bugginess because of it02:50
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blackgibsonwho said anything about perfect?02:51
SEJeffsells: look through the files in ~/.gftp02:51
ruinevilfat32 doesnt allow 2gb+ files02:51
jayruinevil, that is true02:51
ruinevilbiggest problem02:51
ruinevilif u work with dvdrs02:51
sellsSEJeff: got that, but the syntax in console02:51
jaybut I run my 160gb drive on it nevertheless02:51
jaywith XP02:51
labSo how do I make it so I can cd /media/windows and not get permission denied, while leaving the files un-writeable ?02:51
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iczi think i might have accidently ran my 200gig on fat3202:52
niels_hey y'all: i just switched over to KDE on ubuntu... very cool interface... but the slight changes are confusing the hell out of me... for instance i am trying to install a print driver and it is telling me i have to be root mode... i thought the whole thing with ubuntu was that there is not root user and that original user as root privileges.... anywho... how do i get into root mode????02:52
ruinevilummm02:52
ecobuntujonny: i got an idea02:52
jaylab, give it read permissions and execute permission, but not write02:52
ruinevilu need root access02:52
iczim kinda choked cause i had to delete my dvd;s02:52
ruinevili think02:52
iczlol02:52
ecobuntujonny:  you're resolution is too small?02:52
jaychmod +rx02:52
jaychmod +rx filename02:52
prasysNei, type this passwd root02:52
jay(from root)02:52
cozsudo passwd root02:52
blackgibsonniels_: sudo .. learn it , love it02:52
prasyswhoops , forgot the sudo command02:52
cozin terminal02:52
ecobuntujonny:  d/l this http://projects.nudieman.com/500m/845patch-0.3-2.i386.rpm02:52
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iczyeh dont give root a pass02:52
prasysniels_, otherwise type sudo su in terminal too , to run as a super user02:52
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jamie_1does anyone know how to put a scanner onto kubuntu?02:52
iczsudo is there for sec reasons02:52
ecobuntujonny:  sudo alien *.rpm02:52
ruinevilsudo su....02:52
ruinevilsorta redundant02:52
iczits anoying at firsr but you get used to it02:53
ecobuntujonny:  if you don't have alien installed...sudo apt-get install alien02:53
ruinevilcant u just run su...02:53
jaysudo rm /*02:53
ecobuntujonny:  then dpkg -i *.deb02:53
jaylol dont do that!02:53
Xeromemdoes anyone have the same issue -> i keep getting an error from apt-get (broken file)02:53
ecobuntujonny:  ./845patch 1600002:53
ruinevilout of space?02:53
prasysjay, gosh.....then you will lose all your "/' partition02:53
ruinevilor ur sever is the suck02:53
iczapt-get --fix-missing02:53
ecobuntujonny:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and allocate 16000 to the memory02:53
ecobuntujonny:  then restart X02:53
iczhow about shred02:53
iczlol02:53
jamie_1can anyone tell me how to install a HP 1210 printer/scanner/copier on kubuntu?02:53
ecobuntujonny:  you should have proper resolution!02:53
jayactually, more like : sudo rm -rf /*. that will KILL your system!02:53
iczdont do that eitther02:53
ecobuntujonny:  let me know if this works!02:54
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zcat[1] jay: "yes > /dev/hda" -- really fast way to kill a system02:54
ecobuntujonny:  sudo dpkg -i *.deb02:54
varsedanggericz, emerald electric02:54
jayHey people, how can I make it that one user can kill another user's process, provided that it's a specific process, and theyre in the same group ?02:54
iczvarse cool02:54
jayzcat[1] , thats true02:54
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jayor using the dd command..?02:54
Xeromemapt-get --fix-missing didn't work !02:54
medgnojay, very carefully write a SUID program/script?02:55
jamie_1please, someone help!02:55
prasysbbl02:55
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labjay, didn't work man02:55
labI still can't access the dir02:55
iczapt-get update02:55
jaylab, which dir02:55
zcat[1] jay: add the users to /etc/sudoers so they can "killall foo" as root, where 'foo' is the command theyre all allowed to kill?02:55
labjay, /media/windows02:55
iczoh02:56
jaylab, its a mounted drive?02:56
labdo I need -R ?02:56
jayno!!02:56
labyeah02:56
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jayyou have to edit fstab!!02:56
iczumount it02:56
jayand give it rw permissions?02:56
medgnozcat[1] , but does sudo let you make it so you can limit them to certain parameters to a command?02:56
icztype mount -t smbfs //server/share /mnt/windows02:56
citrosacki need some help guys     i have ubuntu as my fileserver and its about to be put in the closet right after i get vnc or something similer working....  i don't want a monitor connected to the machine but i want to vnc into the machine and use gui apps    i have tried a how to on ubuntu but no luck  altho i can do the gnome one (remote desktop) that works fine  but i need vnc to start at boot and have a higher resolution     can i get some help02:56
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icztype sudo mount -t smbfs //server/share /mnt/windows02:56
varsedanggerwhat is a good pda to have for linux?02:56
jaythe -R will affect folders inside of it, which you havent yet complained about not being able to access02:56
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SEJeffmedgno: yes you can02:56
zcat[1] To some extent, yeah.. you can allow them to "killall foo" and not "killall bar"02:57
labjay, I want to be able to open up the files on the drive02:57
labas a normal user02:57
anto9usvarsedangger: Sharp Zaurus02:57
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iczlab: are you sharing the folder on you windows machine?02:57
zer0`how do you clear the dns cache?02:57
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jayzcat[1] , how do I do i add them to sudoers "so that they can...."02:57
jaylab, what filesystem is the drive?02:57
Xeromemi hate depencies :(02:58
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mustard5lab, there is a script that will automatically mount all your drives and put the correct fstab entries in on the wiki02:58
iczijay:  if its a windows share its smbgs02:58
zcat[1] man sudoers ? -- I don't know off the top of my head but the docs have some examples..02:58
iczsmbfs02:58
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wastrelanyone know how i can troubleshoot sound in wine?02:58
AlexanROdoes anyone know when or if OO.o-2 stable will be made available on hoary mirrors?02:58
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iczsudo apt-get install smbfs if you dont have it02:58
labjay, ntfs02:58
iczlab sudo apt-get install smbfs if you dont have it02:58
jaylab, go into /media and execute an "ls -l"02:59
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endrahey02:59
jaytell me what it says next to "windows"02:59
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endrais there a network install for ubuntu?02:59
jayas in rwxr__02:59
jayetc02:59
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labdr-x------02:59
pr0tocolhey everyone...02:59
jaylab, thats a major prob!02:59
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iczyou cannot write to a ntfs filesystem03:00
iczfrom linux03:00
iczit will fuck all up03:00
iczexit03:00
zer0`how can i clear(flush) my dns cache?03:00
pr0tocolmaybe someone can quickly identify the problem I'm having...03:00
jaylab, but you still want to read, right?03:00
labyeap03:00
labI thought I said that03:00
ecobuntuSEJeff:  scold icz!03:00
jayexecute03:00
jaya03:00
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pr0tocolGtk is not displaying the fonts that I choose, instead, it sticks to one (happens with every font); 2) fonts aren't being rendered properly. Any ideas?03:01
niels_prasys: so what... just typre sudo before all commands?03:01
SEJefficz: grow up and quit acting like a child03:01
jaychmod 555 ./windows03:01
jayfrom root03:01
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jay(from the /media directory)03:01
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SEJefficz: And with captiventfs, you can write to ntfs without messing up anything03:01
pr0tocolanyone?03:01
varsedanggerwhere is a good place to find fonts for OOo03:01
niels_blackgibson: so just typre sudo before every command?03:01
BaalI am trying to configure a program to compile and it keeps telling me that getopt is not there.  The getopt executable is in the /usr/bin directory.  What is wrong?03:02
labdustin@lab:/media$ sudo chmod 555 ./windows03:02
pr0tocollol @ jay03:02
labdustin@lab:/media$ cd /media/windows/03:02
labPermission denied03:02
pr0tocolBaal, direct it to where it's at03:02
jaylab, should work03:02
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varsedanggerlab your name is dustin to holy crap03:02
pr0tocolBaal, set a prefix03:02
Baalhow do I direct it there?03:02
varsedanggerwhat are the chances03:02
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marvinalonehi, i'm experiencing this weird problem with my badger03:03
pr0tocolBaal, read the INSTALL file03:03
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pr0tocol;)03:03
labjay, doesn't work03:03
jayohh, lab, check out your /etc/fstab file03:03
pr0tocolso03:03
marvinalonecertain applications, openoffice or gnome-panel to name some, die instantly and remain in state D (uninterruptible sleep)03:03
Kumohi guys, I need help with my keyboard please03:03
mustard5lab, if you the script at this link it should set it up for you https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions03:03
jaymake sure the partition's being mounted with the ,users option03:03
jay, lab03:03
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labwill that link mustard5 gave work ?03:04
marvinalonethis happened after a ram-upgrade, but when i grade back down it still does the same thing03:04
mustard5hey ngutwirth missed you in the other channel03:04
kyncanimarvinalone: checked your dmesg ?03:04
varsedanggeranyone ever use mplay?03:04
jaylab, add the ,users option to the /etc/fstab file for your ntfs drive entry03:04
mustard5lab, read the link and check it out03:04
FletchI installed the normal/full installation of ubuntu and it runs too slow on my old 400mhz 64mb ram computer and I was wondering if its possible to remove gnome and just have a window manager, or whatever will make it faster03:04
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marvinalonekyncani, yeah, doesn't say anything03:04
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jaythen umount /media/windows, and then mount /media/windows03:04
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apokryphosjay: or just sudo mount -a  ;-)03:05
kyncanimarvinalone: you don't use nfs ?03:05
Kumohi guys, I need help with my keyboard please, I upgraded to breeze and my keyboard in gdm doesn't work03:05
jayapokryphos thas rite!03:05
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marvinalonekyncani, i do, but when i run vmstat the processes don't show up as blocking. they do contribute to loadavg though.03:06
marvinalonekyncani, what about nfs could it be?03:06
theineKumo, so the whole thing doesn't work or what?03:06
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ngutwirthyo guys i just got ubuntu can someone tell me how to make firestarter automatically start when turning on the computer? thanks03:06
marvinalonekyncani, ohhh, i know03:06
varsedanggermy firefox just crashed hard, don't know what happend03:06
marvinalonekyncani, you're the best, thanks03:06
kyncanimarvinalone: nfs mounts going down lead to processes in uninterruptible states03:06
theineKumo, or is it just a wrong layout?03:06
Milk_is there a way in linux to rip an mp3 from an AVI file?03:07
nicoalhmm.. is there an ETA until kernel 2.6.14 with hostap is in the repos?03:07
BaalKumo, have you checked to see if the keyboard came unplugged?03:07
jayngutwirth , it just should... no?03:07
ngutwirthwell i dont think so03:07
Kumotheine: I cannot login but the keyboard works outside gdm03:07
ngutwirththe icon doesnt pop up03:07
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mustard5ngutwirth, its in the preferences isnt it?03:07
jaythen you have to go into /etc/rc2.d03:07
ngutwirthnope i checked03:07
jayand create a symlink to it03:07
marvinalonekyncani, the problem is that the nfs server borked earlier today. nfs is fine but lockd isn't.03:07
ngutwirthi installed it from apt-get03:07
mustard5ngutwirth, run at boot time?  ah ok..let me check it out03:08
SEJeffnicoal: Are you using dapper?03:08
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nicoalSEJeff, dapper? nope, what's that?03:08
ngutwirthi dunno on the site it says its different if u used apt get03:08
labkk thanks jay !! and thanks mustard503:08
KumoBaal: yes i checked, It does work outside gdm, is rare because I can use numbers (from the right side of the keyboard) but not letters03:08
SEJeffnicoal: a kernel with hostap will not go into breezy ever. Only security updates03:08
labmustard5, great script but it creates horrible drive names lol03:08
theineKumo, did you ever modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand?03:08
jubeijust upgraded to breezy and i'm having trouble accessing virtual terminals03:08
Kumoyes03:08
jubeictrl+alt+f1 doesnt work03:08
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SEJeffnicoal: To get something like that, you need to run the development version of ubuntu which might randomly break during upgrades and is not suggested03:08
ciancifor setting up ndiswrapper, there is a text file that is called interfaces, am i supposed to modify that in any way for this to work??03:08
sellsSEJeff: can you tell me the syntax in console to go in and edit .gftp03:09
Kumotheine: yes, I checked that but I don't see anything different than my configuration on the live cd03:09
mustard5ngutwirth, I have the answer ;)   see you in #kubuntu-offtopic?03:09
nicoalSEJeff, drat... so breezy will stay at 2.6.12?03:09
ngutwirthok03:09
SEJeffcianci: Enable universe + multiverse repositories and then download ndisgtk03:09
Linux_whoreHow can I get SSL/TSL support in links2. I am using links2 with gui, but that might not matter.03:09
foxgamerDoes anyone know what sort of FPS I should be expecting with the screensaver ATunnel?03:09
SEJeffnicoal: correct03:09
SEJeffsells: .gtk is a directory03:09
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mozcomhello03:10
SEJeffsells: Try this: nautilus ~/.gftp03:10
varsedanggerhey i just lost all text in firefox any ideas?03:10
theineKumo, anyway, i would do a `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'03:10
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nicoalSEJeff, I would be able to download and compile my own 2.6.14 without breaking anything, wouldn't I?03:10
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SEJeffnicoal: yes you would03:10
sellsSEJeff: thanks03:10
nicoalSEJeff, excellent, thanks!03:10
theineKumo, you need to do the md5sum stuff mentioned in the header of /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:10
Kumotheine: I have already done it but nothing change03:10
SEJeffnicoal: I wouldn't be surprised if the dapper kernel installs fine on breezy, but it could break things...03:10
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zer0`how can i flush my dns cache?03:11
theineKumo, did you do:03:11
theinesudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum'03:11
Kumotheine: md5sum stuff? I'm gonna see03:11
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Milk_is there a way in linux to rip an mp3 from an AVI file?03:11
theineKumo, if you don't do that, dpkg-reconfigure won't have any affect03:12
sellsSEJeff: maybe I need to go somewhere else. I need to edit the ssh RSA key for GFTP03:12
ciancifor setting up ndiswrapper, the text file that is called interfaces in the etc/network folder, am i supposed to modify that in any way for this to work??03:12
zcat[1] Milk_: mplayer will dump the sound to a wav file, then lame it..03:12
Kumotheine: ok I'll try it03:12
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Milk_zcat[1] , great!03:12
bibehi, i'd like to configure a linux router with ubuntu. is it possible to use rp-pppoe? or is there any ubuntu integrated alternative?03:13
pr0tocolcan ANYONE help me with this Gtk problem I'm having regarding the fonts03:13
ciancifor setting up ndiswrapper, the text file that is called interfaces in the etc/network folder, am i supposed to modify that in any way for this to work??03:13
varsedanggercan someone google "no text in firefox" and tell me how to fix it03:13
Milk_zcat[1] , where is the option to have mplayer do it?03:13
Kumotheine: and after that the dpkg-reconfigure stuff?03:13
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varsedanggerbbL03:14
zcat[1] mplayer -ao pcm:file=foo.wav03:14
r0bbyokay i followed the thing to get ndiswrapper working03:14
citrosackhaving some vnc woes   can anyone help?03:14
r0bbywhy is it not working03:15
r0bbythe interface isn't being recognized03:15
r0bbyon dapper03:15
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zcat[1] .. and -vo null if you don't want to see the video while it's doing it :)03:16
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abarbacciahey all - when i mount the windows partition using discs-admin it doesnt allow me to view the partition unless i'm root03:16
abarbacciaand i cant change the permissions or ownership on the dir because its read-only03:16
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ciancifor ndfswrapper the text file that is called interfaces in the etc/network folder, am i supposed to modify that in any way for this to work??03:17
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anto9uscianci: what does ndiswrapper -l show you?03:18
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calamariis it possible to delete a password?  I'd like to make it so there is no root password, so that it's not possible to log in a root (just sudo)03:18
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ecobuntujonny:  any luck?03:18
Kumotheine: I'll see if now is working, I'll be right back03:18
ciancianto9us , all invalid drivers03:19
kyncanicalamari: man shadow03:19
_Baal_Why does ubuntu not use the standard package names that every other linux distro uses?03:19
ciancibut they are the correct ones from the cd03:19
sazwerxhi.. anyone knows how to set-up CDMA fixed wireless phone to be used for connect to the NET in ubuntu? thanks.03:19
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medgno_Baal_, it uses the same ones debian uses03:19
anto9uscianci: type ndiswrapper -i <filename>.inf03:19
kyncani_Baal_: there are no standard for package names03:19
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ciancianto9us, when i do that, it says the driver is already installed03:20
jonnyecobuntu: nope03:20
SEJeffcianci: get ndisgtk from the universe repository for a nice gui to do it for you much easier03:20
_Baal_Why does ubuntu put so many packages in non-standard places.  What the hell is wrong with ubuntu03:20
SEJeff_Baal_: like...03:20
anto9uscianci: then that driver doesn't work with ndiswrapper for your card, what's the driver name?03:20
endrawhats best ftp client i can use?03:20
zcat[1] calamari: there is no root password by default..03:20
ecobuntucrap03:20
ecobuntudid you try the patch?03:20
calamarizcat[1] : my system is no longer default03:20
cianciwusb54g.inf, anto9us03:20
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_Baal_Sejeff: like the x11 include files?  Where are they?  What package are they in?03:20
ciancii checked the website and it says it's comptable03:21
SEJeff_Baal_: SUSE puts software in nonstandard places. Like /opt/gnome. ubuntu puts software where it is supposed to be according to FHS03:21
ecobuntuubotu R03:21
ubotuecobuntu: What?03:21
ecobuntuubotu <R>03:21
ubotuecobuntu: What?03:21
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ecobuntuubotu <R> <R is a powerful statistical program.  sudo apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html>03:21
ubotuokay, ecobuntu03:21
ecobuntu!R03:21
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, ecobuntu03:21
ecobuntudamn you ubotu!03:21
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Pabloo.O03:22
ecobuntuubotu add R R is a powerful statistical program.  sudo apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html03:22
ubotuecobuntu: what are you talking about?03:22
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cevizogluwow, ubuntu running single-processor 2ghz is running the same exact shell app faster than the same app on a  dual 2ghz powermac G5 running OS X03:22
cafuegoecobuntu: Stop the brackets.03:22
SEJeff_Baal_: Sounds like you need to learn debian better :)03:22
cafuego!<r>03:22
ubotucafuego: Are you smoking crack?03:22
ecobuntuubotu R R is a powerful statistical program.  sudo apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html03:22
ubotuokay, ecobuntu03:22
cafuegoubotu: yes03:22
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, cafuego?03:22
ecobuntu!R03:22
ubotuecobuntu: Bugger all, i dunno03:22
SEJeff_Baal_: Try: apt-cache search xorg | grep dev03:22
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cafuego!R is a powerful statistical program.  sudo apt-get install r-base r-recommended03:22
ubotucafuego: okay03:22
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cafuego... you get the iea.03:22
SEJeff_Baal_: And dpkg -L packagename | less to view all of the files a package installs03:22
ecobuntu!R03:23
ubotur is, like, totally, a powerful statistical program.  sudo apt-get install r-base r-recommended03:23
anto9uscianci: is that the latest version of the drivers?03:23
ecobuntuyeah!!!!03:23
ecobuntuhow did you do that?03:23
_Baal_sejeff: so after you do that you get this long list of x11 stuff, none of which says x11 include files03:23
ecobuntuyay!03:23
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ecobuntuhow do i tell ubotu about QGIS?03:23
cafuego!r =~ s/r-recommended/r-recommended r-base-html/03:23
ubotuOK, cafuego03:23
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cianciyes, anto9us, when i type in sudo iwconfig wlan0, it says no such device?03:23
SEJeff_Baal_: All dev packages are include files. You just need to find out which ones you need03:23
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cafuegoecobuntu: You do it by not repeating the factoid key.03:23
_Baal_sejeff: thanks, that might help03:23
ecobuntu!QGIS is an open source alternative to ArcGIS sudo apt-get qgis03:23
ubotuokay, ecobuntu03:23
ecobuntulike that?03:23
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ecobuntu!qgis03:24
ubotuqgis is probably an open source alternative to ArcGIS sudo apt-get qgis03:24
cafuegoecobuntu: Like /msg ubotu foo is bar ; not /msg ubotu foo foo is bar03:24
budluvacan someone tell me what this error mears? ...ImportError: libssl.so.0.9.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:24
ecobuntuyeah!03:24
budluvadoes that mean i hdont have libssl?03:24
cafuego!qgis03:24
cafuego!info qgis03:24
anto9uscianci: you have to get ndiswrapper reporting driver present, hardware present first03:24
cianciand then if i type in sudo ifup wlan0 it says: option left with empty value03:24
ubotuqgis: (Geographic Information System (GIS)), section universe/science, is extra. Version: 0.6.0-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 5959 kB, Installed size: 12824 kB03:24
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SEJeff_Baal_: This might be better: apt-cache search xorg | grep header03:24
mozcomhow can i install .exe file in ubuntu03:24
mozcom?03:24
cianciok, how do i do that anto9us?03:24
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_Baal_sejeff:  any idea how to get the rss-glx screensaver configure file to find getopt?  I think it is installed but the configure says it isn't there.03:24
cafuegoecobuntu: The bot *does* already contain all package meta info, though.03:24
ecobuntu!info r-base03:24
ubotur-base: (GNU R statistical computing language and environment), section universe/math, is optional. Version: 2.1.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 56 kB03:25
ecobuntuoh i see03:25
n0odl3mozcon: you cant use exe files in linux03:25
ecobuntui didn't know that03:25
anto9uscianci: what's the make and model of your wifi device?03:25
ecobuntucool03:25
sazwerxhelp.. i've attached my cdma fixed wireless phone (via usb) to my comp, and i can see it in "device manager", but i dunno where the block device is?03:25
n0odl3mozcon: unless you have wine or cedega03:25
medgnomozcom, you could give wine a try, but it has very mixed results03:25
SEJeff_Baal_: probably a path issue03:25
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ciancianto9us : it's Linksys WUSB54G Wireless USB Adapter03:25
cianci(and i have the latest working drivers installed)03:25
anto9uscianci: what does lsusb show you?03:25
benplauti've done alot of messing around with java, and it's now broken... how can i delete all instances of jre, all traces of it from my system and try again, from scratch?03:26
mozcomim using ubuntu, wen im installing an .exe files it is looking for and .exe application?03:26
_Baal_sejeff:  I can't figure out how to redirect the configure file to find getopt.  I have tried all of the --directoryoptions that the configure file has03:26
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ciancianto9us: what is the command i should type in??03:26
ecobuntumozcom:  wine package.exe03:26
seliniumAny ideas on how to turn a mov file into an mp4 ?03:26
anto9uscianci: lsusb03:26
cianciok03:26
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kyncaniselinium: mencoder perhaps ?03:27
ciancithere are devices and bus ports03:27
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cianciare you looking for anything in particular?03:27
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stylishSysInfo: Linux 2.6.12-9-386 | Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz 2399.844 MHz | Mem: 180/507M [||||||||||]  | Diskspace: 43G Free: 36G | Bogomips: 4751.36 | Screen Res: 1024x768 | Procs: 64 |   | Up:  | eth0: In: 0.00M Out: 0.00M03:28
anto9uscianci: can you paste them in #flood?03:28
_jaypeei have kubuntu and was wondering if anyone knew what package contains 3d carousel screensaver03:28
Chiznwhats the difference between a 386 and a 586 processor?03:28
thirso!pastebin03:28
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:28
ciancii am on another computer,anto9us03:28
mozcomwer i can find wine? sorry im new here03:28
medgno_jaypee, probably kscreensaver-xsavers03:28
ecobuntu!otters03:28
ubotuWish i knew, ecobuntu03:29
ciancithere is Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000003:29
kyncanimozcom: probably in package wine ;)03:29
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ciancithere is Bus 010 Device 010: ID 12bl:000d03:29
anto9uscianci: unplug the device and then lsusb again, that will indicate wich line shows your device03:29
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seliniumkyncani, CHeers, I will take a look!03:29
cianciok... anto9us03:29
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kyncaniselinium: np :)03:30
cianciok, i know what one it is anto9us03:30
ciancitherBus 010 Device 010: ID 13bl:000d03:30
anto9uscianci: what does it say?03:30
mozcomok03:30
_jaypeethanks medgno03:30
_jaypeei try now03:30
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Avenhello03:30
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Avenchecking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables03:30
cianciwhat does what say? anto9us?03:30
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AvenI keep getting that error everytime I try and compile03:30
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anto9uscianci: sorry, was premature there03:31
benplauti've done alot of messing around with java, and it's now broken... how can i delete all instances of jre, all traces of it from my system and try again, from scratch?03:31
stylishAven : get new mirrors03:31
anto9usor late, rather03:31
ciancithat's ok03:31
Avenstylish, how do I do that?03:31
cianciso now what should i do?03:31
Avensomeone please help :\03:31
sazwerxman lsusb03:31
calamarikyncani: I've read through that man page, but it doesn't say how to remove a password03:31
sazwerxoops.. sorry.. wrong place.. :p03:32
anto9uscianci: have you a folder with all the files in including a .inf file?03:32
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maxi have installed linux03:32
kyncanicalamari: read carefully around the * symbol03:32
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cianciyes, anto9us03:32
maxand give me error in a blue screen that my video card is not well configured03:32
Aven checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables03:32
AvenI  keep getting that error everytime I try and compile03:32
runehWhere do I set EDITOR globally?03:32
anto9uscianci: what's the .inf file?03:33
Avenplease help03:33
Baalhow do you find the contents of a package on a repository that you have not installed?03:33
cianciit is wusb54g.inf, anto9us03:33
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calamarikyncani: aha, thanks :)03:33
kyncaniBaal: use apt-file03:33
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kyncanicalamari: ;)03:33
r0bbywhere is a list of pci devices?03:33
cafuegoAven: Whatcha compiling?03:34
runehr0bby: lspci03:34
Avenunrealircd03:34
Avennothing works at all03:34
Avenapt-get doesn't work03:34
tk401hey everyone, anyone know of any problem with madwifi?03:34
cafuegoWhy not pick a precompiled one?03:34
Baalkyncani:  I don't appear to have an apt-file program03:34
kyncanir0bby: or hal-device-manager03:34
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Avennevermind, I got it!03:34
Aventhanks though! :P03:34
zer0`how can i clear my dns cache?03:34
kyncaniBaal: well, install it ? (and read its manpage)03:34
Absenthcan anyone here tell me how well Xen does or does not work on Breezy03:35
watnouaven: why not install ircd-hybrid via apt-get03:35
alexandrosis there a way to run etherape as a normal user, and be able to access the ethernet card?03:36
ciancianto9us, are u there?03:36
maxi have installed linux03:36
maxand give me error in a blue screen that my video card is not well configured03:36
anto9uscianci: apparently there's a WUSB54Gv4 which is a different chip from the previous 3 versions03:36
maxcan anybody help me ??03:37
ruinevilversion d?03:37
anto9uscianci: try an earlier driver03:37
ruinevilnever heard of it03:37
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cianciso i shouldn't use the drivers on the cd i have? anto9us03:37
dabaRmax: are you in linux now? what video card do you use?03:38
anto9uscianci: in that case, download the latest from the website and try those03:38
ciancii read somewhere, anto9us, where you have to associate the driver with the hardware to make it work03:38
ciancii did that03:38
anto9uscianci: ndiswrapper -i does that03:38
bob2cianci: did you read that howto?03:39
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maxdabaR nop i'm at another pc03:39
ciancioh03:39
dell500can you edit the "Places" drop menu so that it has a menu that comes off certain folders?03:39
bob2Absenth: I'm sure it works fine once you build a custom kernel and etup the userland tools03:39
maxdabaR i'm using an ATI03:39
maxX800gt03:39
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ciancii have tried all of the drivers, but it says that they are invalid drivers? anto9us03:39
dabaRmax: you are about to get a message from ubotu03:39
maxkay03:39
maxtks03:39
bob2cianci: did you read the howto?03:39
anto9uscianci: you mean all the drivers or all the files on the cd?03:39
cianciall the drivers on the CD03:40
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anto9uscianci: download latest version from linksys website03:40
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maxi was trying to install fglrx-driver like it is on the site but he can't found03:40
dduckodell500, You can, I find it easier to use the archive manager to do it03:41
cianciand when i do sudo ndiswrapper -l i get all the drivers and they all say invalid driver! -like that03:41
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dabaRmax: maybe its in a repository that you had not enabled.03:41
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dell500dducko, what do you mean?03:41
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phinnaeus!tell phinnaeus about repos03:41
phinnaeusgang03:41
dabaRmax: had ou enabled any repository as part of your "efforts"?03:41
KumoI need help with my keyboard, I cannot login in Breeze03:41
dduckohave a zip or rar file handy dell50003:41
maxdon't know i installed it in this moment03:41
phinnaeuscan somone do that thing03:41
phinnaeusabout repos to me03:41
phinnaeusplease03:41
anto9uscianci: it's ndiswrapper -i <filename.inf> to install driver then ndiswrapper -l to check if it's loaded03:41
dduckodell500, nm  under apps the first one.. opent eh archive manager03:41
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dabaRphinnaeus: read the message ubotu sends you.03:42
maxthink not03:42
Absenth_since my vpn at school so rudely disconnected me, I'll ask again.03:42
phinnaeusoh03:42
phinnaeusnevermind03:42
Absenth_Can anyone tell me roughly how well xen works on breezy?03:42
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dduckodell500, well I guess you still need an archive file to do it with..03:42
psusihow can I force an older version of a package to be installed?03:42
cianciright, anto9us, after i install the driver, and then do -l , it lists the drivers i had installed for it, and they all say invalid driver next to the driver name03:42
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runehI guess update-alternatives was the way to go in my case ...03:42
dabaRmax: if you had not, that could be a good reason the fglrx driver package was not found.03:42
psusithe force version option in synaptic is disabled, and the versions tab in the package properties only shows the current version03:42
KumoI need help with my keyboard, I cannot login in Breeze, I does work outside gdm but not inside, I have just updated03:42
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dabaRmax: read the wiki page again, see what you need to enable. universe most likely.03:43
anto9uscianci: then download latest winxp drivers from linksys and see if they work03:43
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dduckodell500, after you get one open, click extract and then choose other.. from this browsing menu you can add it on the left side of the screen03:43
ciancii did that, anto9us just 10 minutes ago03:43
dduckodell500, im sure there is an easier way, but that works great for me03:44
m0zonesilly question  where might one find e17 for ubuntu :P-~03:44
dell500dducko, i'm wanting to have a drop menu from the Places menu on the toolbar03:44
anto9uscianci: what's the model number on your device?03:44
dduckodell500, i know.. that will add it to it03:44
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cianciWUSB54G (it's usb)03:45
bob2m0zone: www.enlightenment.org, pull from CVS03:45
dell500dducko, opened...03:45
bob2m0zone: someone made broken outdated ubuntu apckage sat some point, too03:45
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anto9uscianci: doesn't give a version number?03:45
dduckook click extract dell50003:45
AvenI'm still getting the error :(03:45
AvenC compiler cannot create executables03:45
Avenwhat do I have to do? :\03:45
dduckothen  from the places menu choose other..03:45
benplauti've done alot of messing around with java, and it's now broken... how can i delete all instances of jre, all traces of it from my system and try again, from scratch?03:46
dduckoin that area to the right, you should see a directory and to the left at the bottom.. says +Add03:46
bob2Aven: what are you trying to compile?03:46
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maxdabaR please can you be more specific ?03:46
bob2benplaut: presumably you installed it all to one directory?03:46
ciancianto9us, on the actual device itselft?03:46
dduckoadd what you want, then close it down.. should be in your places menu03:46
benplautbob2: dpkg & apt-get03:46
Avenbob2: unrealircd03:46
bob2benplaut: oh, easy then03:46
anto9uscianci: yes, will be listed near the serial number, for a guess03:46
bob2Aven: oh man03:46
bob2Aven: please don't03:46
Aven?03:46
psusihow can I force an older version of a package to be installed? I'm trying to go back to an older version of xserver-xorg-core because the newer ones cause fglrx breakage on amd64 according to a thread on the forums03:46
AvenI've done it before03:47
bob2Aven: the unrealircd people haeve shown themselves to be morons time and again03:47
benplautbob2: doing the purge install didn't work...03:47
Avenhaha!03:47
benplaut*uninstall03:47
psusionly synaptic's option to force a version is disabled and the version tab only shows the current version as availible03:47
bob2benplaut: didn't work = ?03:47
cianciok, it's version 4 anto9us03:47
maxi was trying to install fglrx-driver like it is on the site but he can't found03:47
Avenbut is there a way to allow gcc to create executable files?03:47
benplautbob2: nope03:47
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bob2psusi: look for it in /var/cache/apt/archives/03:47
cianciWUSB54G Ver. 403:47
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anto9uscianci: ok, looking on web03:47
bob2Aven: install build-essential03:47
cianciok03:47
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Avenbob2: what's that?03:47
dell500dducko, i have no idea what you mean...03:47
bob2psusi: but I'd ignore any thread on the forum about thingss like that, unless it is accompanied by a link to a bug report03:47
Avenis that a compiler?03:47
benplautbob2: i reinstalled it, and java didn't work...03:47
psusibob2: only current version is there03:48
dell500dducko, i have Archive Manager open, i clicked Places, and there should be some Other file or osmething?03:48
bob2psusi: forums people have variouly claimed that X didn't work on any ATI cards and that all the -k8 kernels were unbootable03:48
benplautbrb03:48
watnouAven: thats the compiler03:48
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Avenwatnou: ahh ok :)03:48
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psusibob2: there were over 100 posts in the thread and a dozen people reported that going back fixed it, and located the problem to a particular file that was changed and reporeted it03:48
watnouAven: sudo apt-get install build-essential03:48
dduckodell500, ok after you hit extract03:48
bob2psusi: but not one of those dozen people actually filed a bug so it could be fixed?03:48
bob2that's insanely stupid03:48
bob2benplaut: didn't work = ?03:49
ecobuntuanyone know if there are plans to update the ubuntuguide.org for Breezy?03:49
dduckodell500,  where it says Extract in folder:  click that and choose other03:49
bob2benplaut: I need specifics...e.g. "when I run javac foo.java, I get $this error..."03:49
Kumocould anybody help with my keyboard please?03:49
psusibob2: I think they did... I dunno... all I know is that they exactly described what is wrong and when it started for me, and said going back a version prior to the final breezy release fixed it... so I want to try03:49
psusibut can't03:49
dell500dducko, i need to have a file open or new file or something03:49
bob2psusi: anyway, if the version you want released with ubuntu, packages.ubuntu.com03:49
maxi was trying to install fglrx-driver like it is on the site but he can't found03:49
maxbob2 do you know?03:49
dduckojust open any rar or zip file03:49
bob2max: oh god03:49
ecobuntuunrar03:49
dduckoso you can get the extract menu03:49
ciancianto9us, i found this site, any help? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/41/2005/05/2/32089703:50
psusiaccording to the thread, the breakage happened with an update the day before breezy went gold03:50
bob2max: so X worked until you broke it?03:50
psusiwhich is about when it broke for me, with the error message they talk about03:50
bob2psusi: then they really really need to file a bug so it can be fixed03:50
benplautbob2:java -version works, spitting out Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)03:50
benplautJava HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02, mixed mode)03:50
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bob2psusi: the package is not on ubuntu.com in an accessble place anymore; you'll need to trust one of them to give it to you, I guess03:50
Linux_whorewhat is wx-config?03:50
benplautbut about:plugins in firefox doesn't show anything03:50
psusilet me read the 100 posts again, I'm sure I saw a bug reference in there... but it seems it hasn't been fixed yet anyhow so I want to try the older version03:50
Kumotheine: I did the md5sum stuff but didn't work03:50
bob2Linux_whore: what are you trying to do?03:50
psusihrm... damn... that sucks... the archives don't keep old versions?03:51
bob2benplaut: did you insrall the plugin package?03:51
bob2psusi: generally, yes03:51
psusiwhat's the point of the force version option in synaptic then? ;)03:51
maxbob2 i reinstalled linux03:51
Linux_whorebob2, compile a program but i am getting errors from running configure03:51
dabaRbob2: what man page is good to read to learn about importing screenshots using imagemagick?03:51
benplautbob2: pretty sure... i'll check03:51
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Avenomg, it works03:51
AvenI love you guys!03:51
watnouhehe03:51
bob2max: that was silly03:51
Aven:P03:51
dabaRbob2: nm.03:51
bob2Linux_whore: and the name of the program is...03:51
bob2dabaR: import03:51
dabaRbob2: thank you.03:51
Linux_whorebob2, wxbo2k-0.103:52
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bob2Linux_whore: which is...?03:52
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benplautbob2: j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin is installed03:52
Linux_whorea gui for bo2k03:52
maxman.... i'm noobie and i really need linux working what do you want me to do?03:52
maxtryed everything03:52
bob2Linux_whore: uh, back orifice? this is off-topic.03:52
bob2max: you installed it from scratch, and X did not work?03:52
labadding mp3 support to ubuntu ?03:53
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dell500dducko, how do  you get rar support?03:53
Linux_whorebob2, its a problem in ubuntu that wont let me configure.03:53
dabaRlab read what ubotu told yuou03:53
bob2lab: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:53
anto9uscianci: problem not solved on that thread, I've found another though.. try this one http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List and scroll down03:53
bob2Linux_whore: you'll have to find help elsewhere, sorry03:53
misfit_toydell500, sudo apt-get install rar unrar03:53
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labdabaR, who what where when ?03:53
labthanks boabsta03:53
labbob2,03:53
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dabaRlab: a private message from ubotu.03:54
dell500thanks03:54
dell500i think i know what you mean now dducko03:54
ciancianto9us, on the cd, in the ver 4 folder, there is rt2500usb.inf, rt2500usb.sys and WUSB5GV4.cat03:54
maxbob2 i dont understand... but i didnt do nothing at now03:54
ciancido i have to do anything with the other files? anto9us ?03:54
dduckodell500, im sure there is a simpler way to do it.. that works though.. but this has prompted me to figure out what it is03:55
Kumotheine: Do you know what else could I try to fix this please?03:55
anto9uscianci: copy them all to a folder in your /home03:55
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cianciok03:55
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kyncanimax: real noob, ubuntu did not work out of the box -> try mandrake, you may have more luck03:55
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zer0`how can i clear my dns cache?03:56
abarbacciahey all - shouldn't the package build-essential include gcc-3.4 ?03:56
ciancithan what anto9us03:56
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farruinnabarbaccia: nope, it includes gcc4.003:56
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psusiaha, here is the bug:03:56
psusihttp://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1761403:57
stylishSysInfo: Linux 2.6.12-9-386 | Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz 2399.844 MHz | Mem: 161/507M [||||||||||]  | Diskspace: 43G Free: 36G | Bogomips: 4751.36 | Screen Res: 1024x768 | Procs: 66 |   | Up:  | eth0: In: 0.00M Out: 0.00M03:57
abarbacciaor the kernel makefile be told to compile with gcc4.0?????03:57
psusiit's flagged as an upstream problem... but it WAS working so why the heck don't they just revert?03:57
dabaRbob2: hm, the man page does not tell me what I would like to know. Is it import -root or something like that for a screenshot? Also, it should work if I run: sleep 10;import -root or so?03:57
farruinnabarbaccia: all of the packages except the kernels in breezy were built with 4.003:57
abarbacciawhy is that?03:57
farruinndunno, ask the devs :)03:57
anto9uscianci: then type sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/<folder>/rt2500usb.inf03:57
cianci[ok03:57
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ecobuntublame canada blame canada03:57
maxyeah yeah yeah thanks for nothing03:57
maxhow can i desinstall linux and the boot program ?03:58
glynumm I'm having problems with another freak installation using a sh03:58
maxgrunu03:58
glynit installed something and then there are no directories where it installed and it ate up like 500 megs03:58
cianciit says rt2500usb.inf is alrealy installed03:58
wickedpuppyglyn, what is it and what you typed ? and what error you got if you got ?03:58
chemisus!repos03:59
uboturepos is, like, How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource03:59
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chemisus!easysource03:59
ubotu[easysource]  For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:59
glynwickedpuppy:sh WineCVS.sh ...I can't remember the error03:59
glynwickedpuppy:it's a tool for getting Wine using CVS through a shell script03:59
intelikeymax delete the partition/s that contain linux and boot to dos and run fdisk /mbr03:59
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wickedpuppyglyn, the script is installation script or the app script ?04:00
anto9uscianci: I can't remember the option to remove an installed driver, type ndiswrapper --help and tell me what it says04:00
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glynwickedpuppy:installation04:00
maxintelikey thanks04:00
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wickedpuppyglyn, then surely it asked you for the directory for install to04:01
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ciancito remove it -e driver04:01
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glynwickedpuppy:it didn't04:01
anto9uscianci: sudo ndiswrapper -e rt2500usb.inf04:01
farruinnglyn: did you check under /usr/local or /opt?04:01
farruinnglyn: perhaps reading the script will give you some clues04:01
glynI think I need to delete the source tree, but I don't know how04:01
anto9uscianci: then type sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/<folder>/rt2500usb.inf04:01
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cianciok04:02
wickedpuppyglyn, it didn't ? and it ate up 500 MB ?04:02
bob2dabaR: yes, root for the entire screen04:02
glynwickedpuppy:no, yes04:02
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wickedpuppyglyn, where you got it from ? let me see04:02
ecobuntub double e double r u n = beer run04:02
dell500dducko, oh, i understand what you're saying... i'm trying to get a pull down menu from the folders inside the Places menu04:02
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glynhttp://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/index.php/Main_Page04:03
dduckodell500, yeah.. and when you add them in that menu.. they are there under the places menu04:03
dduckodell500, also just figured out.. and Open dialog box will do it04:03
dduckodell500, such as gedit04:03
wickedpuppyglyn, why you need cvs wine btw .... there is wine in repo04:03
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dduckodell500, just File Open and with that Dialog box you can do it04:04
glynwickedpuppy:wanted to try winex04:04
Kumotheine: could you help me please?04:04
glynwickedpuppy:cuz I couldn't get an app working with wine04:04
wickedpuppyglyn, have you read what the script does ?04:04
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ciancianto9us, this is weird, when i go to delete the drivers, it says they aren't installed04:04
dell500dducko, no no no, i'm wanting a drop menu from say my Documents folder inside the Places menu, from the Documents folder it has a list of files off to the side... aka a drop menu from the folder inside the Places menu04:04
glynwickedpuppy:only the basics04:04
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ciancibut they are in the /etc/ndiswrapper/ folder04:05
wickedpuppyglyn, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4504:05
anto9uscianci: did you run both commands?04:05
wickedpuppyhave you seen this page ?04:05
dduckodell500, oh.. i see.. well just found the right way to do my idea04:05
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cianciboth commands? anto9us04:05
anto9uscianci: sudo ndiswrapper -e rt2500usb.inf04:05
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anto9uscianci: then type sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/<folder>/rt2500usb.inf04:05
glynwickedpuppy:Yeah04:05
wickedpuppyThe script downloads with wget a archiv defaults.tar.gz with the need install scripts. After that you should see its installation menu.04:05
wickedpuppyit says s here04:05
cianciright after that?04:05
anto9uscianci: do those and tell me what ndiswrapper -l says04:06
wickedpuppyso you saw the installation menu ?04:06
glynwickedpuppy:yeah I got to step 5 out of 704:06
dduckodell500,  just to clarify the right way to do what i was doing before I try to figure out how to do what you want04:06
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dduckodell500, just open nautilus and the bookmarks option at the top04:06
Toma-whats the best protocol to use when fiole sharing between 2 ubuntu computers on a lan? NFS?04:06
wickedpuppystep 5 ? meaning you got cvscedega ?04:06
ciancindiswrapper -l says wusb54g - invalid driver04:06
SirGrokHello all04:06
glynwickedpuppy:no04:07
anto9uscianci: ok, I've found an alternative ;) https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo/04:07
ecobuntudude to people hook up on irc?04:07
glynwickedpuppy:it was compiling04:07
wickedpuppyglyn, so you are looking for it then i suppose ?04:07
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SirGrokI am trying two different things.04:07
glynwickedpuppy:I've pretty much given up on that because it takes too much space04:07
jsubl2toma yes nfs04:07
wickedpuppyglyn, cedega won't take up much04:07
Toma-rightio04:07
glynwickedpuppy:I just want to wipe the installation and go back to wine so I can use my other apps04:07
glynwickedpuppy:well the cvscedega does04:07
ecobuntu!girls04:07
ubotuecobuntu: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about04:07
ecobuntu!girls04:07
SirGrokI want to get rid of all the .m3u files in a certain directory on my harddrive (including subdirectories).... I don't know how to tweak the remove command to do that.04:08
jsubl2ecobuntu, don't play with the bot04:08
wickedpuppyglyn, ok so which step are you at now ?04:08
ecobuntusad04:08
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ecobuntuthe bot said "do they come in 5" earlier to me04:08
intelikeyubotu has neither port nor dongle04:08
ubotuintelikey: I don't know, could you explain it?04:08
ecobuntui was going to reply...i sure hope so!04:08
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tk401hey everyone!04:08
glynwickedpuppy:none right now I tried going back to 1 and 2 on a different profile and the same profile and it doesn't uninstall the source tree04:08
morgs^^hi all04:08
wickedpuppyglyn, you want to uninstall then ?04:09
glynwickedpuppy:yeah04:09
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tk401can someone help me with a quick problem? i need a shell script to start when gnome starts up and for it to not ask for the root password. how do i do this?04:09
ciancianto9us, thanks for trying so hard, i have to go now04:09
ciancibye04:09
wickedpuppyglyn, that page got how to uninstall wincvs and source tree ...04:09
niels_all: how does one log in as root on kubuntu???04:09
morgs^^when i install smb samba for filesharing to MS windows, ubuntu asks me for a password .... is it my root or user password ?04:09
farruinntk401: out of curiousity, why do you need that?04:10
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dabaR!+root04:10
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo04:10
wickedpuppytk401, thats a security risk ... btw why you wanna log in as root ? are you root now ?04:10
kevmanDoes anyone know of a Linux Shoackwave player?04:10
tk401to enable my wireless card AFTER X starts otherwise it crashes the computer04:10
intelikeytk401 you could put it in /etc/X11/xinit.d/     or what ever it is.04:10
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ecobuntuso drake is a dragon huh?04:10
glynwickedpuppy:hmm where at?04:11
SirGrokAnyone know those command parameters.04:11
ecobuntui like drake as a male duck better04:11
tk401i'm not root now04:11
ecobuntudragons are kinda lame04:11
wickedpuppyglyn, look at the Issues04:11
SirGrokI usually fiddle with it until I get it right, but fiddling with rm isn't a good idea.04:11
ecobuntuhow about the uplifting unicorns for 6.10?04:11
stylishmandrke is sick04:11
wickedpuppytk401, pls don't ever surf irc as root ... its totally totally not safe04:11
tk401i just need to run "sudo modprobe ath_pci"04:11
tk401i'm not root wickedpuppy04:11
_native_root should be truly disabled by default. cause now its not all the user has to do is sudo passwd root and then su.04:11
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wickedpuppyoph04:11
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wickedpuppylol04:11
wickedpuppyread wrongly ... sorry04:11
chemisushmm, whenever i try to make menuconfig it says i need ncurses-devel package. but when i search for it, its not finding it. any ideas?04:11
tk401it's ok04:11
bob2chemisus: libncurses5-dev04:12
chemisusbob2, thansk04:12
chemisuser thanks04:12
bob2chemisus: but what do you want that isn't in the default ubuntu kernel?04:12
tk401intelikely: so will that run it as root?04:12
chemisusbob2, dunno, this is my first time doing this.04:12
anto9ustk401: type sudo ath_pci >> /etc/modules04:12
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intelikey_native_ or sudo bash04:12
_native_yeah04:12
anto9ustk401: that will make it load every time you boot04:12
bob2chemisus: so why are you compiling one at all?04:12
tk401anto9us: will that load before or after X starts?04:12
glynwickedpuppy:There we go, thanks04:13
chemisusbob2, what else should i do?04:13
anto9ustk401: before04:13
chemisusbob2, im just experimenting hehe04:13
tk401oh, I need to start after04:13
_native_i disable su on my systems.04:13
wickedpuppyglyn, they probably got all the problems that users might get ... :P04:13
tk401because otherwise it crashes04:13
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glynwickedpuppy:it doesn't say anything about it taking over 500 megs :S04:13
bob2chemisus: eh? the default one is fine for 99% of people.  if you don't have a specific issue, there's no point trying...04:13
chelseahello04:13
SirGrokI am trying to remove .m3u files from a directory, anyone know how (With a command.)04:14
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bob2SirGrok: rm *.m3u...04:14
intelikey_native_ you do realize that if root were disabled, ALL admin tasks would be impossable, as well as installing/uninstalling system wide apps.04:14
_native_yes04:14
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SirGrokThank you bob204:14
stylishim better then you04:14
_native_lol04:15
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ubuntuhey guys, i'm just wondering how to mount a usb drive, its a ntfs HD in a usb enclosure04:15
dduckodell500, sorry I cant find anything on it04:15
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intelikey_native_ if you want to disable root look in /etc/security/   and have at it.04:15
anto9ustk401: it may need your country code04:15
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SacredChildhello pplz04:15
wickedpuppyglyn, what else did you install besides wincvs itself ?04:16
_native_im all good man.04:16
SirGrokbob2,  does that command scan subdirectories?04:16
glynwickedpuppy:the rest of my space is being taken up by packages mostly04:16
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Phil|VMusbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)04:16
Phil|VMcan i mount that ?04:16
glynwickedpuppy:like stuff I need basically04:16
SacredChildwhata do you pplz talk about in here?04:16
glynwickedpuppy:it's only a 2gig partition04:16
wickedpuppyglyn, wincvs is a program that will get other programs .... cedega by itself isn't that big ... its not even more than 100 mb04:16
SirGrokSacredChild, Listen. You can find out without talking ;-)04:17
robotgeek_awaySacredChild: this is a support channel04:17
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glynwickedpuppy:well why does it take over 500 when I try to install it?04:17
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SacredChildkoaay04:17
SacredChildokaay**04:17
wickedpuppyglyn, how you know ? paste me the size04:17
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SacredChildthis is kinda GAY04:17
dabaRSacredChild: /topic04:17
dabaRttyl SacredChild04:17
glynwickedpuppy:I can't really do that..the CVS script itself is under a mb but it takes over 500 to make make depend and make install04:17
anto9usSacredChild: your thoughts are your own :)04:17
SacredChildi dont get the point of this chat room thingie04:18
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Kumohey guys can help with a little problem with my keyboard please?04:18
bob2SirGrok: no04:18
intelikeyPhil|VM if you want to mount a usb disk   it should be listed as /dev/sd*04:18
SirGrokSacredChild, Noone is forcing you to be in here. If you would like, show yourself the door.04:18
_native_shut-up and listen you will see the point.04:18
SacredChildGODDD04:18
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wickedpuppyglyn, then paste me the size of the final directory04:18
bob2_native_: chill please...04:18
bob2SacredChild: uh, enough04:18
SacredChildlets talk about like MUSIC or sumting else04:18
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glynwickedpuppy:I would but it also takes like an hour04:18
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glynlol04:19
Phil|VMintelikey,  would you mind if i pm'd you what i get when i type mount04:19
_native_:-)04:19
SacredChildim troll04:19
bob2SacredChild: this channel is for ubuntu support.  if you don't have an ubuntu question, please leave.04:19
SacredChildim not troll04:19
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intelikeysure04:19
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wickedpuppyglyn, du -s /dir04:19
robotgeekah, there!04:19
SirGrokbob2, I am sorry to keep bothing you with these stupid musings, but could you show me how to include them?04:19
glynwickedpuppy:I don't have the directory anymore04:19
wickedpuppylol04:19
wickedpuppyok ok04:19
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glynwickedpuppy:and I can only get to a max of step 6 out of 7 anyways04:19
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gssp`help04:20
glynwickedpuppy:so I imagine the final size would be like 700 megs04:20
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glynridiculous04:20
bob2SirGrok: find -name "*.m3u" -print0 | xargs -o rm04:20
bob2SirGrok: be very very careful, tho04:20
SirGrokThank you sir.04:20
gssp`how can i install window-based programs into ubuntu?04:20
wickedpuppyglyn, really ... not impossible ... that will make it more than most distros04:20
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SirGrokgssp`, wine or cedega;04:20
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gssp`badger04:21
SirGrokVoodoo Badger?04:21
wickedpuppygssp`, which program you wanna install ? photoshop or office ?04:21
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gssp`any windows-based prog04:21
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Quest-Mastergssp`: Look for Crossover Office04:21
bob2gssp`: what are you hoping to run?04:21
benplautditto to Quest-Master04:22
gssp`i would like to run for example print artist04:22
Quest-Mastergssp`: Allows just about perfect installation and usage of Photoshop AND Microsoft Office in addition to many other Windows only apps.04:22
gssp`or encarta04:22
glynwickedpuppy:I've been stupidly struggling for days trying to get wine to work with a program that requires VB and Flash support04:22
anto9usgssp`: there's an application list on winehq.org04:22
regeyawhoo.04:22
gssp`thanks04:22
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SirGrokbob2,  is there somewhere that I can go for a good run down on commands to do different things... I don't want to always have to leech on others' evpertise.04:22
gssp`but i cant use my windows cd on my ubuntu system?04:22
Quest-Mastergssp`: You can in addition to Crossover04:23
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regeyagssp`: I've always believed that if you want to run windows, you should run windows.04:23
gssp`how?04:23
sellsdoes anyone know how I can access my linux system from my windows pda or a windows system04:23
wickedpuppyglyn, in the script ... after you installed... it will remove the .tar.gz files that it downloaded04:23
anto9usgssp`: you might be able to install windows in a virtual machine such as vmware (commercial) or qemu (gpl)04:23
SirGrokgssp`, Havew you considered dual booting?04:23
calamarihow (from the command line) can I get a list of installed files for an installed package?04:23
dabaRsells: access in what way?04:23
gssp`not yet04:23
bob2SirGrok: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommandlineHowto, I guess04:23
glynwickedpuppy:are those really that big though?04:23
bob2SirGrok: it seems a bit bare, tho04:23
sellsdabaR: ssh or gftp kind of thing04:23
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niels__all: sorry, i keep getting disconnected... ok, so once more: how do i get in "root mode" in kubuntu... i keep getting a message telling me i have to be in root mode in order to install this stupid printer driver which i have been trying to install for like2 hours now.... please someone help!04:24
sellsdabaR: network04:24
gssp`where can i find these virtual machines?04:24
wickedpuppyglyn, really ... i am asking ya if ya telling me if its really 700 mb! lol04:24
solidgrooveniels_, use sudo04:24
Madpilotniels_: use sudo & your own user pw04:24
wickedpuppyglyn, if its 700 mb ... how long did it take to download them ?04:24
Madpilot!tell niels_ about sudo04:24
dabaRsells: well, install the servers. openssh-server is a ssh server, and ssh supports sftp which is what you should really use. from window, you an use a terminal emulator, or the built in "dos" command prompt.04:24
bob2niels__: why are you installing a printer driver?04:24
bob2niels__: you're sure ubuntu doesn't have a driver already?04:24
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glynwickedpuppy:a while04:25
niels__bob2: so that i can hook up to my roomates printer and print a document04:25
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wickedpuppyglyn, your bandwidth speed is ?04:25
solidgrooveniels_, use CUPS driver04:25
glynwickedpuppy:over 100kb/s04:25
sellsdabaR: dos, how so?04:25
phinnaeu1what is the procedure for gettting "terminal" to show up when you right click on your desktop?04:25
niels__bob2: i am on kubuntu, and the printer manager does not have the canon 1560 listed04:25
wickedpuppyglyn, a while is ... ? an hour ?04:26
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bob2phinnaeu1: apt-cache search nautilus terminal04:26
bob2phinnaeu1: install that package04:26
anto9usgssp`: google is your friend, but vmware.com and qemu is in the repos04:26
niels__bob2: make that i56004:26
glynwickedpuppy:maybe not quite that long but it seems like it04:26
dabaRsells: well, for ssh not really, there is putty(google for putty download) and for ftp, windows has a built in client in cl.04:26
niels__solidgroove: use sudo how and where?04:26
Vaske_Caris there a way to see number of hits monthly for some website?04:26
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gssp`thanks guys04:26
sellsdabaR: cl?04:26
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gssp`and gals04:27
dabaRsells: command line04:27
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sellsdabaR: right04:27
dabaRgssp`: better inclusive language is thanks everyone04:27
solidgrooveniels_, sudo command you want to run as root04:27
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sellsdabaR: is putty graphical04:27
Toma--!nfs04:27
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ubotufrom memory, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.04:27
zer0`how can i clear my dns cache?04:27
dabaRsells: please try04:27
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niels__solidgroove: i am using cups driver04:27
sellsdabaR: cool, no problem04:27
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Avenhey04:28
wjesusaxlguys does anybody know about a prestige 645 zyxel router?04:28
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Avenwhat's the command again to make a directory perm root?04:28
dabaRowned by root?04:28
Avenyeah...04:28
wickedpuppyglyn, the download should be about 300 mb then ... wonder what they got inside ...04:28
farruinnAven: sudo chown root:root <file>04:28
niels__solidgroove: ok, but what is the command for that? i'm not a programmer...04:28
dabaRgrr04:28
dabaR:04:29
bob2Vaske_Car: run awstats on your weblogs04:29
Avenah ok, thanks farruinn04:29
solidgroove$ sudo 'command as root'04:29
calamarifound it.. dpkg -L package04:29
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niels__solidgroove: 'command not found' it sayd04:30
niels__said04:30
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MagicFabCheers from Montreal04:31
Kumocan anybody help with my keyboard plaes? I have just updated to breeze and now is not working well, I cannot login04:32
dabaRsells: the gnu screen program is something useful for remote logins(among other things), it allows you to start other terminals, like a window manager for command line, once you are set up, and logged in remotely, ask me to tell you the basic commands.04:32
Avenfarruinn: it still doesn't work ;\04:32
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niels__solidgroove: 'command not found' it says04:32
calamariweird.. the breezy coreutils package seems to contain md5sum.textutils but not md5sum.  I had to create symbolic link for it.04:33
GTroy_is there a gui compression tool?04:33
phoenix3051has anyone gotten qemu/kqemu runing windowsXP04:33
kdevilniels__: What exactly did you type?04:33
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Avenok, I installed apache2 and to manage all the files and stuff, the Documentroot is /var/www04:33
calamariphoenix3051: I have it running win200304:33
Avenbut only way to add and del files is to be root..04:33
wickedpuppyGTroy_, archive manager04:33
intelikeysolidgroove don't you just love that   :)04:33
niels__kdevil: what solidgroove wrote above: sudo command as root04:33
GTroy_hehe04:33
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Avenso, what's the command to perm allow me to access that file?04:33
GTroy_wickedpuppy: very cool04:33
duendeHelp : sudo will not work for me for some reason.  when i issue any command with sudo, it doesn't ask for password nor does the command work.  i tried with multiple users, and i don't have a password set for root.  any ideas?04:33
wickedpuppyAven, you want to make /var/www owned by normal user ?04:33
MagicFabKumo: boot in single user mode, setup your keyboard a us english, reboot04:33
MadpilotAven: use sudo to move, or use sudo chown04:33
phoenix3051calamari: did u have to tweak anything from a stock breezy install?04:33
MagicFabphoenix3051: not easy, but doable04:33
calamariphoenix3051: oh wait I misread.. I'm not using kqemu, just plain qemu04:34
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AvenMadpilot: but someone the other day gave me a real easy again that will allow me to edit and add files without having to be root04:34
phoenix3051duende: use your password04:34
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calamariphoenix3051: to get kqemu working you'll need kernel sources, iirc04:34
niels__kdevil: i typed sudo command as root04:34
MagicFabphoenix3051: you need to have the service pack 1&2 as a separate install file available on a CD image04:35
dabaRAven: well, then you want it to not be owned by root, not vice versa04:35
MagicFabphoenix3051: read the docs thoroughly04:35
phoenix3051calamari: yeah, its pretty handy to get working and worth the speed increase over qemu04:35
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calamariphoenix3051: there is a #qemu channel that might be able to assist .. they're pretty cool04:35
kdevilniels__: You should type "sudo" (no quotes), followed by whatever command it was you needed to install the driver.04:35
intelikeyduende [ctrl] +[alt] +[delete]    and at the boot prompt [esc]  'E'  and add  1   or  single to the append line and 'B' to boot   then when it boots into single mode and drops you in a root console  set the root passwd and reboot.04:35
duendephoenix3051: no, see, sudo doesn't ask me for a password.  i worked earlier, but no longer works anymore. i tried to reboot, nothing.  when i execute a command, it just goes back to the shell with no prompt nor error04:35
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Avenhmm04:35
Avenwell, is there a way to change /var/www to another directory?04:36
phoenix3051MagicFab: I will have them on CD when I try the install just checking to see if there are any nasty gotchas04:36
duendeintelikey: how would i fix the sudo problem?04:36
bob2Aven: uh04:36
bob2Aven: make your user own it04:36
phoenix3051calamari: cheers04:36
niels__kdevil: i tried that... did not work...04:36
perfect_guyhi04:36
perfect_guyhello04:36
intelikeyfrom the root account04:36
Avenbob2: exactly what I want!04:36
BigMonkeyHello04:36
perfect_guyim looking a caht met04:36
Avenhow do I do that? :P04:36
MagicFabphoenix3051: that's a nasty one - WinXP has licence checks that prevent it from running in a VM unless you have it with SP204:36
KumoMagicFab: ok I'll try it using dpkg-reconfigue right?04:36
perfect_guycan u my chatmet04:36
Aven(comment?)04:36
bob2Aven: chown username /var/www/04:37
dabaRAven: same as the way you made it owened by root, just replace root with your username in that command...04:37
wickedpuppyAven, people told ya ... chmod04:37
MadpilotAven: chown - read man chown for details04:37
bob2perfect_guy: this is not a pickup joint04:37
Avenoh, heh04:37
wickedpuppyAven, Madpilot told ya up above04:37
niels__kdevil: nevermind.... just tried again, this time it worked.... i think, thanks...04:37
Avenyes, I know04:37
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intelikeyduende you must be root to fix sudo.   so fix your root account or reboot to single and just fix sudo.     but i'd fix root.04:37
AvenI never placed my username for the "root" :P04:37
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MagicFab!singlemode04:37
ubotuMagicFab: Do they come in packets of five?04:37
phoenix3051MagicFab: Cheers for that, I'll build a slipstream image with SP2 then try the install.04:38
Aventhere we go, ty04:38
Lord_Maynoth_anyone here know if dapper will automatically detect your windows partitions without having to download that script like in breezy04:38
duendeintelikey: okay, i'll give it a shot.  how would i re-scramble the root password afterwards?04:38
intelikeyduende why would you?    set it to something secure and leave it. you may need it again.04:39
duendeintelikey: well, i assume there was a reason why it's scrambled to begin with, but okay04:39
ecobuntubreezy automatically detected my windows partition04:40
kdevilQuestion: I have Breezy and a wireless USB adapter (Zonet ZEW2500P, Ralink chipset), and no matter whether I try to get it working through ndiswrapper or the open-source driver the result is the same: I connect and get an IP address, but I can't ping or do anything else.  Any idea what's going wrong?04:41
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Pablogateway04:41
intelikeyduende if you really want to "scramble" it  hehhe it's not scraambled it doesn't exist.    but you can in /etc/shadow    change root:$1$WPS5CiM/$wGBj889/yMtxAzbw2VDqO.:13084:0:99999:7:::    to  root::13084:0:99999:7:::04:41
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Pablocan you ping your router kdevil04:41
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Lord_Maynoth_ecobuntu you didn't have to run a script you downloaded for it to do that...?04:41
kdevilNope, I can't ping anything.04:41
MagicFab!singleusermode04:41
ubotuI guess singleusermode is http://wiki.clug.org.za/index.php/How_do_I_reset_my_root_password%3F04:42
Pablohmm04:42
intelikeyand that is an example  not that yours will look the same.04:42
_native_im having trouble finding info on setting up bsd securelevels. im a bsd user as well and love 'em.04:42
ecobuntunope04:42
GTroy_what compression form can I use that osx will unpack?04:42
nekostarfarking rad man04:42
nekostargot xfce and openbox running great :)04:42
bimberiduende, intelikey: or just "sudo passwd -l root"04:42
MagicFabGTroy_: tar04:42
brad_can someone tell me how to get kde to work please?04:42
_native_nekostar, hows openbox ;-) fast huh.04:43
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bimberibrad_: do you have an error or want to install it?04:43
MagicFab!kde04:43
ubotu[kde]  A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/04:43
GTroy_MagicFab: thanks04:43
MagicFabbrad: What are you trying to do ?04:43
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bimberilol @ dabaR04:44
brad_bimberi have it instaled cant get it to load up04:44
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MagicFabbrad_: I'd say join #kubuntu or #kde, your questions won't fly as fast as here04:44
dabaRthats all classic irc burns...04:44
brad_thanks MagicFab04:45
w0rd54uhm04:45
w0rd54apt-get install kdebase04:45
w0rd54ohhh! too late.04:45
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bimberi*wonders04:46
intelikeymusty be04:46
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bimberilol04:46
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rohalhow can i delete some data from a file using vim in bulk......04:47
kdevilAlso: When connected, it's constantly receiving packets, but none are being sent.  Currently: Received: 362000 packets (76.0 Mb), Sent: 39 packets (5.7 Kb)04:47
intelikey[ins]  key04:47
dabaRrohal: want a good tutorial for vi?04:47
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mikecerehello everyone04:48
MagicFabmikecere: hey04:48
rohaldabaR: i just need to know how should i erase multiple lines in one go.......pressing delete takes a long time.....04:48
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dabaRrohal: from a prof in my school, it is for vi, tho, he is an old unix user... http://zernike.uwinnipeg.ca/~s_liao/Courses/2941/viEditor2005-06.pdf04:48
mikecereOkay, here's my problem04:48
dabaRrohal dd erases a whole line.04:48
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GTroy_using tar: tar "foldername?"04:48
pqxin linux .exe file decompres pls04:49
dabaRrohal: 5dd erases 5 whole lines.04:49
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mikecerejust installed ndiswrapper and i get "SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device"04:49
mikecereany suggestions?04:49
rohaldabaR: k got it thanks04:49
pqxmikelinux hello04:49
kdevilJoin the club.04:49
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mikecerelol04:50
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kdevilAlthough, when I get that, if you wait ~1min it goes away and gets replaced with "disconnected".04:50
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MagicFabmikecere: I doubt anyone is having that specific problem here right now04:51
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pqxso04:51
pqxmikecere04:51
MagicFabmikecere: Did you check the forums/google ? try using the error message as keywords04:51
esc_apeis there anyway to open a windows .exe self-extracting file?04:51
MagicFabesc_ape: install wine04:51
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mikecereMagicFab: yes i have, a couple others have the same problem, no solutions04:52
MagicFabesc_ape: then from command line: wine <command.exe>04:52
esc_apethanks!04:52
MagicFabesc_ape: then ask the publisher of such files to use .zip or .tar.gz instead!04:52
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kdevilmikecere: What are you trying to use ndiswrapper on?04:53
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KumoMagicFab: You did it man, my problem was solved, thank you very much04:53
mikecereNetgear WG111 USB adapter04:53
MagicFabmikecere: which chipset/card brand ?04:53
BigMonkeyAt home I'm moving from FC3 to ubuntu.  Evolution asks me to set everything up again, including my accounts. Suggestions?04:53
thomaslsamohthello04:53
MagicFabKumo: I had a similar problem using a french keyboard. Problem was my password used special chars!04:53
MagicFabBigMonkey: what's the old and the new version #s of Ev ?04:54
mikecerekdevil and MagicFab: Netgear WG111 USB adapter (in case you didnt see)04:54
thomaslsamohti was wondering if somebody could guide me through a wine installation, i've tried the instructions on the winehq site, i've read through countless forums, but i still have no wine.04:54
thomaslsamoht:l04:54
MagicFab!wine04:54
thomaslsamoht!wine04:54
thomaslsamoht?04:54
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MagicFab!tell thomaslsamoht about wine04:55
bob2huh?04:55
bob2sudo apt-get install wine04:55
bob2all done04:55
BigMonkeyMagicFab Don't know the old.  It was a recent (6 mos. ago) install, but ubuntu seems to think it was before 2.004:55
MagicFabbob2: !tell is a shortcut with information linking to the wiki etc04:55
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_native_duh i just remembered man capabilites. :-P04:55
pqxno command wine man -k nothin=g list04:55
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KumoMagicFab: I hope this bug would be solve soon, meanwhile you save my day, see you and thanks again04:56
MagicFabBigMonkey: I'd backup both the old and new, then try using the old config files in the new setup04:56
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NoUseBigMonkey wouldn't surprise me if fedora put the evolution configs in strange place04:56
kdevilmikecere: Does it give you that error all the time?  Mine gives me that if I unplug it, and for around 30 seconds after I plug it back in.04:56
BigMonkeyMagicFab All of the configs?  I've tried replacing both evolution and .evolution with the old.04:57
MagicFabAbout wine: To install a recent version, go through the tutorial at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996 ; for more info and apps that work with it, see http://www.winehq.org, or for support go to #winehq)04:57
MagicFabBigMonkey: just .evolution04:57
mikecerekdevil, the error occurs when i click on the network icon at the top, every time, unless i change it from wlan0 to eth0, then it works04:57
medgnoevolution also stores data in gconf04:57
MagicFabBigMonkey: but I don't know enough about Evolution to guarantee that .evolution contains the email setups (as opposed to the mails themselves)04:57
BigMonkeyI was used to easy upgrades, but I've been in the RH world for a while.04:58
kdevilmikecere: I'm betting that if you click that icon and go to Configure, wlan0 isn't listed.  Am I right?04:58
MagicFabBigMonkey: this I would call _migration_, eh :)04:58
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InchabodHow do I change mirror and also look at list of mirrors?04:59
Inchabodfor apt?04:59
MagicFab!mirrors04:59
ubotumirrors is, like, repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive04:59
mikecerekdevil: :-/ yes, you're right, and i'm thinking i know what i'm doing wrong04:59
WhyvasLTcan someone query me, i need to test something04:59
BigMonkeyIt might be in gconf or somewhere else, because when I saved the whole directory and switched it to the new user, I got my mail ok.  But the desktop was messed up04:59
mikecerekdevil: i removed ndiswrapper from modules04:59
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deangAnyone here setup TurboGears?05:00
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MagicFabdeang: what r u trying to do ?05:00
pqxmikecere in Ubuntu .exe file can be decompressed?05:00
MagicFabdeang: just ask away ;)05:00
pqxand how if yes05:01
dabaRif someone has a xorg.conf that supports resolutions higher than 1024x800, and could pastebin that, I would appreciate it.05:01
MagicFabpqx: I think I told you earlier05:01
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BigMonkeyI suppose there aren't that many trying to migrate from RH to ubuntu.  I thought you guys might have had other folks with the same problem.05:01
bob2MagicFab: yes, I know05:01
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pqxmagicfab i'm lost again sorry how is that possible>05:01
pqx?05:01
mikecerepqx: what are you trying to decompress?05:02
MagicFabpqx: Wine is an emulator with basic support for executing Windows apps05:02
deangMagicFab: I installed python2.4 from Synaptics, then TG's ez_setup.py failed.*  Just got python2.4-dev and trying again.   (No /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile)05:02
MagicFabpqx: It's enough to run .exe self-extracting files05:02
budluvacan someone tell me what this error mears? ...ImportError: libssl.so.0.9.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:02
budluvadoes that mean i hdont have libssl?05:02
nickrudBigMonkey, it's something the evolution guys are working on: http://www.go-evolution.org/Evo2.605:02
MagicFabbudluva: missing library05:02
intelikeywhy wouldn't unzip work on a .exe zip file......  it does in m$ os.05:03
MagicFabbudluva: trying searching for libssl in synaptic, install it05:03
BigMonkeynickrud Waaah! Migrating too early, drat!05:03
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MagicFabpqx: you need to install wine05:03
thomaslsamohtk05:03
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intelikeywhy wouldn't unzip work on a .exe zip file......  it does in m$ os.05:03
thomaslsamohtits downloading shit05:03
MagicFabpqx: do you use command-0line or GUI ?05:03
thomaslsamohtit wouldn't install open gl05:03
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thomaslsamohtor libgtk05:03
nickrudit is odd, having user config stuff under different directory trees :(05:03
zer0`how can i clear my dns cache?05:04
MagicFabintelikey: have you tried it ?05:04
thomaslsamohtwill it fail the install?05:04
EarthenI need help to uninstall a program that apt-get is having trouble with05:04
pqxmagiC fab gui05:04
MagicFabpqx: start synpatic05:04
intelikeyMagicFab i don't even have a .exe file here.   so no i haven't05:04
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thomaslsamohtwine install: opengl and libgtk failed to install, will it fail my compile?05:05
thomaslsamohtcould it be because i have newer versions?05:05
intelikeyMagicFab have you ?05:05
MagicFabintelikey: just telling pqx about a way I know works - unzip may work too05:05
intelikeyk05:05
MagicFabpqx: search for "wine"05:05
intelikeyi was just sujesting he try unzip05:05
budluvaMagicFab, libssl0.9.7 is already the newest version.05:05
dieselI am trying to change the default window manager from metacity to sawfish.  I did this back in gnome 2.10, but when I used gconf the key /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager/default *is deprecated*.  What is the proper way to change the default window manager in gnome 2.12?05:05
budluvaMagicFab, apparently i have libssl already05:05
MagicFabbudluva: out of ideas05:06
budluvaMagicFab, ImportError: libssl.so.0.9.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:06
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pqxPackage xlibs-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:06
pqxThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:06
pqxis only available from another source05:06
pqxHowever the following packages replace it:05:06
pqx  xutils05:06
pqxE: Package xlibs-dev has no installation candidate05:06
mikecereMagicFab, pqx: you need to add universal repositories before you can find wine05:06
dabaRlibssl-dev?05:06
pqx is that ok ?05:06
budluvaMagicFab, can i spoof it to think its 0.9.6?05:06
MagicFabpqx do not paste here05:06
wickedpuppypqx, pls don't paste here05:06
MagicFabuse http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:06
pqxk05:07
MagicFabmikecere is right05:07
MagicFab!universe05:07
ubotuask me about !repositories05:07
thomaslsamohtWine compile: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables05:07
thomaslsamoht !!><05:07
ubotuthomaslsamoht: What?05:07
MagicFab!repositories05:07
ubotuHow to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example soruces.list05:07
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ari_stresswow05:07
wickedpuppyubotu, got spelling error ... lol05:07
ubotuwickedpuppy: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?05:07
MagicFab!wine05:07
farruinnI want gnome-settings-daemon to be part of my enlightenment session, but when I add Exec=gnome-settings-daemon & to my enlightenment.desktop xsession it hangs when I log in. Any suggestions?05:07
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thomaslsamohtfab can you tell me why my compile failed?05:08
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y0z7just got ubuntu installed onto a toshiba laptop.. any ideas why flash in firefox only shows half the flash image?05:08
thomaslsamohtis it because the opengl and libgtk failed?05:08
y0z7half is fine, the other half is just a blank square..05:08
nickrudfarruinn, I don't think you want the equals sign05:08
wickedpuppythomaslsamoht, paste the command you did pls05:08
MagicFabthomaslsamoht: do you have the basic dev stuff installed ?05:08
nickrudarg,  nw05:08
nickrudnm05:08
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thomaslsamohti followed the guide somebody pointed me to05:09
thomaslsamohtit downloaded the source files05:09
farruinnnickrud: I didn't think so either, but that's how it is in the gnome.desktop session05:09
thomaslsamohtand started compiling05:09
thomaslsamohtand failed like 2 seconds in05:09
farruinnthomaslsamoht: missing a development package?05:09
wickedpuppythomaslsamoht, first .. which guide ... second ... paste the command you typed to compile05:09
dabaRand the error05:09
nickrudyeah, it is, I was skimmed, and was thinking .xsession. saw the .desktop after05:10
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thomaslsamohtthomas@TOM:~/cvs/wine$ ./tools/wineinstall05:10
thomaslsamohthttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2999605:10
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thomaslsamohtthe source files downloaded fine05:10
thomaslsamohtcvs installed fine05:10
thomaslsamohtbut the compile fux'd up05:10
NogimicsHey anyone here who uses FreeNX?05:10
bimberithomaslsamoht: sudo aptitude install build-essential, then try again05:10
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bimberiNogimics: ayw05:10
bimberiaye05:10
thomaslsamohti'll try that bimberi05:11
Nogimicsbimberi can I pm you please05:11
farruinnthomaslsamoht: and what about the other packages it lists (xlibs-dev), did you install those?05:11
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bimberiNogimics: ok05:11
dabaRNogimics: keeping the questions in the channel often yields better answers.05:11
thomaslsamohti followed the instructions as they were written05:11
thomaslsamohtin order05:12
thomaslsamohtk essential build completed05:12
zer0`how can i clear my dns cache?05:12
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thomaslsamohti probably should have noted i'm running an amd64 3500+05:12
thomaslsamoht:l05:12
blaqdoes smartbootmanager support network installation or samba shares?05:12
dabaRzer0`: why anyhow?05:13
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ecobuntuhow come gdesklets don't know edmoton, ab for weather but they know red deer, ab?05:13
ecobuntuedmoton = edmonton05:14
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Chiznwho here likes freaks and geeks?05:14
drcodehi all05:14
budluvaecobuntu, dunno, they have calgary though05:14
wickedpuppyChizn, eh ah ...what ?05:14
budluvaecobuntu, i mean do they05:14
Chiznamerican series, freaks and geeks?05:14
ecobuntucalgary...red deer is closer05:14
drcodeany one know about irc client (console) that I can also use proxy server?05:14
thomaslsamohtk so essential build of wine worked, but how do i use it?05:14
HrdwrBoBdrcode: irssi05:14
thomaslsamohtits not in program list05:14
budluvaecobuntu, do they have calgary?05:14
thomaslsamohtnot in menu05:14
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ecobuntuyeah they have calgary05:14
budluvahrmm05:15
Nogimicsok ill ask in here too, but not sure how many use FreenX05:15
ecobuntuit says ambiguous05:15
Chiznwickedpuppy, i think its really funny05:15
budluvawas thinkin maybe instead of having ed and cg they just put red deer as its in the middle :P05:15
wickedpuppyChizn, pls stick to ubuntu/linux questions here pls ...05:15
ecobuntumust be too many edmonton's in canada05:15
Chizncommie, lol05:15
NogimicsEach time I disconnect from FreeNX should I be Suspending the session or logging out05:15
axisys!msg ubotu quicktime05:15
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, axisys05:15
drcodethanx05:15
ecobuntu!quicktime05:15
uboturumour has it, quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support (via w32codecs), or see w32codecs05:15
nuckhi whats the ubuntu command line to compare the diff betw 2 files or 2 directories? thanks05:15
wickedpuppyaxisys, /msg05:15
zer0`dabaR: my friends ip keeps changing and my cached dns is pointing to their old ip address05:15
drcodeother qustion05:15
wickedpuppynuck, diff ?05:16
ecobuntu!tell axisys about quicktime05:16
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nuck!ubotu05:16
drcodeI Have a frind that want to use phpnuker for web site05:16
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:16
axisyswickedpuppy: typo sorry :-)05:16
NogimicsIt might be my imagination but it seems my process's list is getting longer, and I think its because im not logging out of these sessions and starting new ones all the time?05:16
thomaslsamohtdoesn't vlc support quicktime?05:16
thomaslsamohtand mplayer?05:16
drcodeHe is looking for free web site where he can upload php nuker and also get mysql db space for free, any idea?05:16
budluvalibpng.so.205:16
bigbooteAnyone know which package installs libmp3lame.so?05:16
ecobuntu!tell thomaslsamoht about w32codecs05:16
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budluvawould that be in the libpng2 package?05:16
wickedpuppydrcode, then get phpnuke ... not nuker05:16
budluvathere's tons of libpng packages05:16
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dabaRzer0`: no such thing. just refresh in a browser, afaik.05:16
budluvanot sure which one i need, anyone know?05:16
dieselHow do I set the default window manager in Gnome 2.12?05:17
ecobuntudrake = duck05:17
nuckwickedpuppy oh that one *slaps forehead*05:17
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LoneWolf071what lib or mod do i use to stream video with apahce?05:17
drcodeyes05:18
zer0`bigboote liblame005:18
drcodesotrry05:18
wickedpuppyLoneWolf071, why not ask in #apache ?05:18
drcodeare U sure irsii is for console mode also?05:18
LoneWolf071cause no one talks in there05:18
wickedpuppydrcode, irssi is only for console mode05:18
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zer0`bigboote apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search libmp3lame.so05:18
CaBlGuY-sleepnight all05:18
drcodethganx05:18
wickedpuppyi don't recall seeing gui version of irssi ...05:18
ecobuntuis opera open source now and does it still have all those damn advertisements all over it?05:19
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PHZN`awayWhat is the package that I need to install in order to be able to SSH to my machine remotely?05:19
wickedpuppyecobuntu, nope ... neither in windows version ...05:19
wickedpuppyPHZN`away, ssh05:19
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MagicFabecobuntu: it's not opensource but it's free (of charge) - no ads05:19
PHZN`awaywickedpuppy, isn't that what I need to connect out to other machines?05:20
PHZN`awayI want to connect to MY machine from another machine.05:20
wickedpuppyPHZN`away, you need ssh server then05:20
bigbootezer0`: doing that now; in the meantime there doesn't seem to be a 'liblame0' package...05:20
K_DallasQ: what program would you suggest for cataloguing CD,DVDs? right now i use gwhere which works on both linux and windows. thanks05:20
farruinnPHZN`away: openssh-server on the computer you want to connect to and openssh-client on the machine you're connecting from05:20
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PHZN`awayfarruinn, thanks.05:20
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BROKEN_LADDERis there any way to control which alsamixer "slider" is controlled by the volume inputs that i've mapped on my multimedia keys?05:22
BROKEN_LADDERcause it's using pcm which doesn't affect my spdif05:22
blaq!smartbootmanager05:22
ubotublaq: I don't know05:22
blaqbah05:22
jubeii followed the instructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia to get opengl games working but i have and error in my Xorg.0.log "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)"05:22
blaqdoes anyone know if smart boot manager supports samba shares?05:23
thomaslsamohthey fab thanks for your help05:23
thomaslsamoht:)05:23
blaqor network installation of ubuntu?05:23
thomaslsamohtthanks guys05:23
blaqor is it just for if your cd drive wont boot?05:23
zer0`bigboote i think you need to add repositories05:23
zer0`!repositories05:23
ubotuHow to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example soruces.list05:23
zer0`!sources05:24
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:24
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dabaR!+msg the bot :)05:24
ubotudabaR: I give up, what is it?05:24
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sizzamanyone use bittornado?05:24
IcemanV9BROKEN_LADDER: try Desktop > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts05:24
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tkupI've had reproducible hard drive freezes on ubuntu 5.04 when I plug/unplug the AC adapter on an IBM T30 laptop. no logs whatsoever. Does anyone know about this problem? Has it been fixed in the new release?05:24
dabaRsizzam: some do, why?05:24
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sizzamdabaR, i cant find the command to launch it05:24
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BROKEN_LADDERIcemanV9 i have the shortcut set already.05:25
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BROKEN_LADDERIcemanV9 i'm talking about once you get the volume up/down working.05:25
BROKEN_LADDERcontrolling which device it is affecting.05:25
dabaRsizzam: are yo in gnome? is there a menu item for it? btdownload-gui is the command iirc05:25
mushtaqhi how to restart samba from command line in ubuntu there is not smb file in init.d05:25
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sizzamdabaR, thanks grabbing the gui package now05:25
mushtaqfolder05:25
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pqxflex package MagicFab05:26
thomaslsamohttkup is ur battery good?05:26
thomaslsamohtdoes it do it when your screen is off?05:26
IcemanV9BROKEN_LADDER: sorry, that's all i know. :/05:26
bimberimushtaq: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart05:26
bob2mushtaq: uh, then you don't have it installed05:26
mushtaqthanks bimberi05:26
mushtaqbob2, it is installed05:27
mushtaqsmb.conf is also there05:27
bob2mushtaq: then you'll have a 'samba' init script in /etc/init.d/05:27
mushtaqbob2, this is installed by default in ubuntu05:27
bob2mushtaq: no, samba is not installed by default05:27
thomaslsamohtk compiling wine: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables05:27
mushtaqbob2, it is not there05:27
rantohas anyone installed unionfs?05:27
thomaslsamohtit is a problem compiling C05:27
thomaslsamohtany resolutions?05:27
tkupthomaslsamoht, yes it is. I have about over an hour worth. The systems does *not* freeze after I power on, goto hibernate mode, and then back up again. it only happens when I remove the AC adapter after a fresh start.05:27
bob2thomaslsamoht: why are you compiling wine?05:27
mushtaqbob2, it is installed by default in default installation not in the server installation05:27
bimberimushtaq: smbclient is, but not samba05:28
bob2mushtaq: no, sorry, samba is not installed by default05:28
dabaRI heard it is too, but whatever.05:28
thomaslsamohti'm trying to install it.. to install from source you need to compile it.05:28
thomaslsamoht:o05:28
dabaRthomaslsamoht: you could install it from the universe repo05:28
mushtaqbimberi, what is the difference between samba and smbclient ?05:28
thomaslsamohtno i couldn't05:28
dabaRreally, eh? thomaslsamoht ?05:28
thomaslsamohti added the repository05:28
thomaslsamohtbut it didn't list.05:29
bob2thomaslsamoht: why are you installing it from source?05:29
bob2thomaslsamoht: no, that means you messed up05:29
thomaslsamohtcvs05:29
thomaslsamohtsorry05:29
thomaslsamohtcvs05:29
bob2thomaslsamoht: show us your /etc/apt/sources.list05:29
dabaRnot here, pastebin, please.05:29
bimberimushtaq: smbclient allows you to connect to a smb shar, samba to be a smb server05:29
nuckmicrosoft live any comments?05:29
mushtaqbimberi, thanks for the information05:30
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mushtaqtakecare05:30
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bimberimushtaq: yw :)05:30
wx9janyone know how to get Breeze to read a flash card out of a digital camera ?05:31
mushtaqbimberi, if i make changes to the smbclient it will05:31
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woddf2Haldo05:31
mushtaqbimberi, it will take effect imediately ?05:31
woddf2How do I add Windoze to the GRUB option?05:31
thomaslsamohtapt sources:deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release amd64 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted05:31
thomaslsamohtdeb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted05:31
thomaslsamoht## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the05:31
thomaslsamoht## distribution.05:31
thomaslsamohtdeb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted05:31
thomaslsamohtdeb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted05:31
thomaslsamoht## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'05:31
thomaslsamoht## repository.05:31
thomaslsamoht## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu05:31
thomaslsamoht## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to05:31
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thomaslsamoht## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in05:31
thomaslsamoht## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security05:32
thomaslsamoht## team.05:32
thomaslsamohtdeb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe05:32
thomaslsamoht## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'05:32
thomaslsamoht## repository.05:32
thomaslsamoht## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as05:32
NoUse!ops05:32
ubotufrom memory, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth05:32
thomaslsamoht## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes05:32
thomaslsamoht## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.05:32
thomaslsamoht## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review05:32
thomaslsamoht## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.05:32
thomaslsamoht# deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse05:32
thomaslsamohtdeb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse05:32
tkup I've used "Select shapes from images" to select a region on a jpg image. I've read documents online on how to copy that region and paste it somewhere else. Can anybody please show me how to copy the selected region?05:32
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nuck!users05:32
ubotunuck: I don't know, could you explain it?05:32
bob2bah05:32
nuck!user05:32
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, nuck05:32
bob2nuck: /msg05:32
woddf2How do I add Windoze to the GRUB option?05:32
bigbootezer0`: thanks, it must've been in multiverse05:32
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bob2woddf2: it's there already05:32
woddf2?05:32
bob2woddf2: it's there by default05:32
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intelikeywhat is the conventional way to get a script to accept input from stdin ?05:33
woddf2No, it isn't there.05:33
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nalioththomaslsamoht: please dont paste in here05:33
thomaslsamohtsorry05:33
thomaslsamohtsomebody asked me to.05:33
woddf2I installed Ubuntu, then I installed Windoze and restored the MBR.05:33
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bigbootebtw, I'm looking for a good app to convert a bunch of MP3s from one sample rate to another05:33
farruinnwoddf2: that's why windows isn't there05:33
AvenHello05:33
Avenwhat's a good firewall for ubuntu>?05:33
woddf2How do I add it?05:33
tkupI guess I have to rephrase my question...05:33
propagandhithomaslsamoht: use the !pastebin05:33
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thomaslsamoht!pastebin deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release amd64 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted05:33
thomaslsamohtdeb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted05:33
thomaslsamoht## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the05:33
thomaslsamoht## distribution.05:33
thomaslsamohtdeb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted05:33
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, thomaslsamoht05:33
tkup I've used Gimp's "Select shapes from images" to select a region on a jpg image. I've read documents online on how to copy that region and paste it somewhere else. Can anybody please show me how to copy the selected region?05:33
thomaslsamohtdeb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted05:33
farruinnwoddf2: there's a grubconf package in universe I think (not sure, I'm on ppc)05:33
thomaslsamoht## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'05:33
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pqxflex package where is getting that ?05:33
propagandhi!pastebin05:33
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:33
bob2pqx: in ubuntu...05:34
concept10woddf2, open /boot/grup/menu.lst  the instructions are there05:34
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kdevilmikecere: Any luck so far?05:34
pqxbob2 and to download ?05:34
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bob2pqx: ?05:34
thomaslsamohti'm sry guys05:34
nalioththomaslsamoht: NO PASTING05:34
bob2thomaslsamoht: STOP. IT.05:34
bob2thomaslsamoht: next time will be a ban05:34
thomaslsamohtfuck05:34
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pqxmissing flex05:34
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nekostarhehe05:34
nekostarthis is so wawesome :)05:34
bob2uh05:35
dabaRmaybe even this time.05:35
nekostarso new discoveries: electric sheep can zoom to full screen lol...05:35
bob2that seems slightly excessive.05:35
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dabaRwhatever, it will work out in the end, I am sure.05:35
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benplautmaybe a bit...05:35
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tkupDoes anyone know how to select a region from a jpg in Gimp?05:35
nekostarbob2, i was wondering about apps similar to gimp that do stuff like photoshop. i know a whole mess of ppl looking to change out of windows being tired of spyware [and me tired of working on the dam boxes for free >_<] 05:36
benplautdamnit\05:36
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benplauti really need to learn my key commands before i go off pressing things...05:36
woddf2Windoze is on /dev/hda5 , how would I express that in (hd#,#) form?05:36
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bob2tkup: same as from anything else05:36
bob2nekostar: gimp05:36
nekostarlol benplaut i hear that :P05:36
SwatyHi, I have un HD of 6Gb for linux, and i want mount other Hard Disk of 60Gb, I can copy And Paste of HD1 to HD2 ?05:36
bob2nekostar: or gimpshop if people really find menus to be so confusing05:36
nekostaro:05:36
bob2Swaty: you can move files between them, yes05:36
bob2woddf2: hd0,405:37
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benplautnote to self: F1 is your friend05:37
woddf2What do I put in kernel ?05:37
nekostarcan a semi-computer literate person who pwns photoshop understand that do you think bob2 ?05:37
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mikecere_wohoo, wireless works, thanks to all that helped :)05:37
tkupbob2, I did select a region using the "Select shapes for image". Tried to right click - > copy or ctrl-c. None of them worked05:37
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[Spooky] Aven: try Firestarter05:37
bob2nekostar: no idea05:37
nekostartkup, i found something in there05:37
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bob2nekostar: I find it hard to belive photoshop people are so smart and inflexible that gimp is too hard for them, tho05:38
intelikeynote to benplaut [alt] +[F4]   is too.  :)05:38
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thomaslsamohtk guys05:38
benplautnekostar: you'll have to unlearn alot of what you knwo in photoshop05:38
nekostarlook on those things that pop up with it.. the one on the left has different things to select?05:38
thomaslsamohti'm sorry for spamming05:38
nekostarlook for one that's a box05:38
thomaslsamohti never used irc before05:38
nalioththomaslsamoht: cursing doesnt help either05:38
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thomaslsamohtplease understand05:38
benplautintelikey: yeah, up there with ctrl+backspace05:38
woddf2What do I put in kernel ?05:38
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Swatybob2, Ubuntu is compatible for mount other HD ?05:38
dabaRthomaslsamoht: that is fine. do you see a private mesasge from ubotu anywhere?05:39
bob2thomaslsamoht: that's great, don't ever do it again, move on05:39
nekostarbenplaut, // bob2 i appreciate the explination btw,, im just worried about the person needing to know python or something in order to romp away effectively05:39
Aven[Spooky] : gahm HECK NO :(05:39
bob2thomaslsamoht: now paste your sources.list to #flood05:39
thomaslsamohtnah i quit and reopened xchat05:39
bob2nekostar: no05:39
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nekostarok great then05:39
Swatybob2, Ubuntu is compatible for mount other HD ?05:39
Avenlast time I had it, it stopped all connections from connecting to either my ircd or web server05:39
nekostarim gonna give it a hard recommendation and make sure to install the help :D05:39
tkupDoes anyone know of an alternative image editor to Gimp?05:39
[Spooky] Aven: you asked for a firewall ?05:39
bob2Swaty: ubuntu can mount windows partitions, yes05:39
benplauttkup: try krita05:39
bob2tkup: none are as featureful05:40
benplautit's a bit green, but still pretty good05:40
thomaslsamohtwhoever wanted to see my apt sources list05:40
Aven[Spooky] : yeah :P05:40
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thomaslsamohtmeet me in #flood please..05:40
Avenbut any firewall other than firestarter pwease :P05:40
benplautthomaslsamoht: now you've got it :)05:40
farruinntkup: tuxpaint :P05:40
GTroy_can you mount mac partitions with mountwindows?05:40
benplaut^^05:40
Fletchcan i uninstall gnome and just use a SMALL (memory wise) window manager05:40
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woddf2Haldo05:40
Fletchjust so that I can use xmms05:40
woddf2WHat do I put in kernel?05:40
benplauterr05:40
MagicFabFletch: you can use XFCE05:40
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farruinnGTroy_: you can mount hfs/hfsplus partitions with mount05:40
[Spooky] Aven: well firestarter is a good one... i belive its a gui frontend for iptables...05:40
woddf2bob2: WHat do I put in kernel?05:40
benplautFletch: try openbox05:40
naliothFletch: you can add any WM you like, nobody says you have to log into a gnome-session05:40
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benplautremoving gnome may be a bit hard05:40
MagicFabFletch: apt-get install xubuntu or via Synaptic05:41
SwatyAlguien habla un poquito Espaol?05:41
FletchWell when I boot, just takes me to a login screen05:41
benplautit might be easier to just start from scratch05:41
GTroy_farruinn: thanks05:41
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bob2Swaty: no05:41
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FletchA yellow one that says ubuntu (i just did default install)05:41
bob2!+es05:41
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:41
benplautMagicFab: even xfce is a bit heavy for just xmms05:41
MagicFabSwaty: #ubuntu-es05:41
FletchONLY using xmms with this machine05:41
Fletchor some other small memory music player05:41
SwatyMagicFab, Yeah. but their not know05:41
MagicFabSwaty: nos vemos all05:41
MagicFabbenplaut: missed that05:42
PHZN`awayHey, I'm working on a server right now that I just made, and I need to figure out why my machine can get apt-get to work and download stuff, but not through anything else.05:42
woddf2WHat do I put in kernel?05:42
tkupok krita has that 'K' in it. I'm installing tuxpaint05:42
farruinntkup: lol, I was joking05:42
farruinntkup: txpaint ~= microsoft paint05:42
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tkupfarruinn, oh I see...05:42
woddf2WHat do I put in kernel?05:43
benplautfarruinn: tuxpaint > ms paint05:43
intelikeyhmmmm i thought that was kpaint ...05:43
benplautonly slightly :P05:43
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K_Dallastuxpaint is mostly for kids ;)05:43
farruinnbenplaut: ok, I'll take your word for it. I hardly use either :)05:43
benplautintelikey: welcome to the linux world of redundency...05:43
woddf2WHat do I put in kernel?05:43
benplaut50 apps for every task :D05:43
woddf2I'm trying to configure GRUB.05:43
farruinnwoddf2: repeating a question a bazillion times does not mean it gets answered faster05:43
FletchWhich WM's come with ubuntu?05:43
K_Dallas;)05:44
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Fletchcoz the pc dont have net access05:44
tkupdamn tuxpaint is so colorful I almost lost my sight05:44
nekostaro: here's a silly question: when i run xine and tone the volume down it also makes xmms tone down the volume // or up of course... is there a way to get that behavior to stop outside of installing another video/audio player?05:44
benplautFletch: none, by default05:44
HrdwrBoBer05:44
varsedanggerwhy won't sound work?  my system sounds are working but i can't get the other stuff to work?05:44
benplautbut you can still have plain Xserver, with no WM05:44
HrdwrBoBmetacity05:44
intelikeywoddf2 img05:44
HrdwrBoBmetacity comes with ubuntu05:44
benplautHrdwrBoB: well... yeah...05:44
HrdwrBoBbenplaut: not really05:44
FletchWill X server allow me to run Xmms and stuff?05:44
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woddf2What about initrd ?05:44
thomaslsamohtbob+ dabar i posted my apt sources.list in flood05:44
Fletchand if so how do i get out of gnome and into it05:44
farruinnFletch: maybe you could make a custom gnome session that only loaded metacity and gnome-panel05:44
thomaslsamohtif you want to have a look05:44
benplautHrdwrBoB: "xinit -- :1"05:44
mc|ambi want to try xfce, what do i have to do to get it?? should i search for it on synaptic??05:44
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Fletchfarruinnm, how would I do that, only new to linuyx05:45
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Fletchlinux*05:45
NogimicsAre there any antivirus progs for ubuntu?05:45
intelikeywoddf2 no the line about kernel    are you asking about /boot/grub/grub.conf ?05:45
farruinnmc|amb: xfce4 is in universe05:45
intelikeywoddf2 img was not correct for grub.conf.05:45
StarKruzrguys, can I get some help troubleshooting my ftp server and figuring out why it stalls when trying to do a directory listing?05:45
nekostarvarsedangger, did you add yourself to the music group?05:46
nekostaror audio or whatnot?05:46
woddf2No, I'm asking about /boot/grub/menu.lst .05:46
StarKruzrI can show you my /var/log/vsftp.log if necessary.05:46
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bob2thomaslsamoht: now paste the output of "apt-cache policy blah"05:46
WhyvasLTwoddf2, try www.google.com05:46
bob2StarKruzr: are you behind NAT?05:46
varsedanggerno how do i do that in the command line?05:46
StarKruzrbob2: Yes.05:46
varsedanggernekostar,05:46
bob2StarKruzr: then you lose05:46
bob2StarKruzr: tell people not to use passive mode05:46
thomaslsamohtwhat is that bob?05:46
thomaslsamoht:l05:46
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bob2thomaslsamoht: a command for you to run05:46
bimberiK_Dallas: none that i'm aware of - get writing! :)05:46
FletchDoes ubuntu come with xmms?05:46
StarKruzrbob2: can you not make pasv work by forwarding the range 30000-50000?05:46
thomaslsamohtfletch its in synaptic05:47
StarKruzrI feel like I have done this before.05:47
K_Dallasbimberi, i bet there is gonna be one out soon, Ubuntu for Dummies ;)05:47
Fletchwhats that?05:47
StarKruzron BSD, and it worked.05:47
thomaslsamohtgo to add programs05:47
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thomaslsamohtits under audio05:47
bob2StarKruzr: no05:47
FletchThis pc dont have net05:47
bimberiK_Dallas: udumbtu :P05:47
intelikeywoddf2 you probably need to read the man page     "man grub "   and   man menu.lst05:47
farruinnFletch: it's not on the install cd05:47
K_Dallaslol05:47
thomaslsamohtyour on the net right now.05:47
NogimicsI would buy a Ubuntu for Dummies Book05:47
bob2StarKruzr: you can make it work by using software that understands FTP to NAT05:47
thomaslsamohtlol05:47
bob2StarKruzr: e.g. netfilter05:47
farruinnFletch: it does come with rhythmbox preinstalled though05:47
Fletchthomas, this is the windows PC05:47
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FletchI just want something to test sound05:48
farruinnFletch: open a terminal and push backspace a bunch :P05:48
NogimicsFirst customer right here K_Dallas05:48
Fletchhaha05:48
K_Dallaslol05:48
thomaslsamohtk this one is only 2 lines long05:48
thomaslsamoht3*05:48
K_Dallas:)05:48
thomaslsamohtcan i paste here?05:48
K_Dallasnope05:48
thomaslsamoht:o05:48
Nogimicsuse pastebin05:48
bob2thomaslsamoht: it's not two lines long, so no05:48
thomaslsamohti don't have that.05:48
thomaslsamohtbob literally it is.05:48
K_Dallasthomaslsamoht, it is in the topic05:48
Nogimicswww.pastebin.com05:48
mc|ambfarruinn: after the installation, how do i set it up??05:49
thomaslsamohtapt-cache policy wine05:49
thomaslsamohtoutput 4 lines05:49
bob2thomaslsamoht: which is not 2, as I said, #flood or pastebin.ca05:49
farruinn!repositories05:49
ubotuHow to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example soruces.list05:49
thomaslsamohtk i'll just tell you then, not installed, no candidates, no version05:49
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farruinnmc|amb: ^^ link to instructions05:50
thomaslsamohtbecause it didn't install.05:50
bob2thomaslsamoht: no05:50
bob2thomaslsamoht: show me the output in #flood05:50
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bob2I don't want a summary05:50
thomaslsamohtthere it is..05:51
StarKruzrbob2: could any of this ftp crap have to do with the DSL modem I am using?05:51
bob2StarKruzr: it is to do with whatever software is NATing you05:51
bob2StarKruzr: also to do with FTP being a poorly designed protocol05:51
bob2thomaslsamoht: that's the whole output? run 'sudo apt-get update' and then policy again; it should change05:51
frank23anyone know where I could find other freely accessible dns servers? my isp's dns servers seem very slow05:52
mc|ambfarruin: i've the universe repositories, my question is: does synaptic configures xfce or do i have to do it?05:52
thomaslsamohtbob its still the same.05:52
thomaslsamohtif the repository was working, i wouldn't be in here.05:52
bob2frank23: ns.berkeley.edu05:52
bob2or mayb ns105:53
farruinnmc|amb: you'll like this: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" << will install all you need and configure it05:53
thomaslsamohti'm very sure my source.list is okay too.05:53
dabaRfrank23: there is no such thing. use your own, and also, clear out your cache in the browser, that should fix it.05:53
StarKruzrbob2: ok.  the reason I am looking outside of my router for an explanation is that I used to run a FreeBSD ftp server, did exactly what I am doing now with the same router (forwarding port 21 and 30000-50000), and it worked properly.  the different elements in the system are A) the server and B) the type of ISP05:53
Severianfrank23, do they have to be free?  I think there are commercial entities that will provide you dns service.05:53
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StarKruzrfyi, I have a WRT54G running hacked firmware05:54
DShepherdhi05:54
varsedanggerdo i ahve to restart gnome in order to have acces to my audio dev?05:54
thomaslsamohtmaybe its ur hacked firmware.05:54
frank23Severian: dabaR I just want to find out if other dns servers work faster than my isp's05:54
StarKruzrthomaslsamoht: it was working before with the hacked firmware.05:54
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thomaslsamoht:l05:54
StarKruzrby "hacked" I mean that it's not crap stock Linksys.05:54
thomaslsamohtyeh i know what you meant..05:54
thomaslsamohthrm05:54
intelikeyvarsedangger no05:55
NogimicsWhat FTP Server software is their for Ubuntu?05:55
StarKruzrNogimics: vsftpd is probably the best one available05:55
dabaRfrank23: check out bob2's post05:55
bob2Nogimics: lots05:55
intelikeyvarsedangger sudo alsamixer05:55
bob2Nogimics: vsftp if you have to use one05:55
varsedanggerhow do i find out if i have audio privilages?05:55
sambagirlnogimics why not just type ftp?05:55
StarKruzrBob is right, though.  ftp is a very poorly designed protocol05:55
NogimicsHow would one go about gettingit? can I just sudo ap-get vsftp?05:56
thomaslsamohtbob i'm going to have a 2nd look over my sources.list05:56
StarKruzrsambagirl: he means ftp server, not client05:56
StarKruzr"ftp" is an ftp client.05:56
sambagirlohj05:56
sambagirlahh yes i see05:56
sambagirlok05:56
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bob2thomaslsamoht: replace your sources.list with this one line05:56
intelikey audio privilages?05:56
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NogimicsSorry im new to linux?05:56
bob2thomaslsamoht: deb http://82.211.81.151/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted universe05:56
bob2Nogimics: you install it using whatever package manegement tool you like05:57
bob2Nogimics: apt-get is one choice05:57
bimberivarsedangger: type "groups" in a terminal, look for audio05:57
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bob2Nogimics: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto05:57
dabaRhaha, one line:-/05:57
Nogimicsapt-get didnt find it05:57
bob2dabaR: there have been problems with synchronisation between the 3 archive.ubuntu.com servers05:57
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frank23how do I find out the ip of ns.berkeley.edu ?05:57
bob2Nogimics: then wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto, it's in universe05:57
varsedanggerthanks05:57
Nogimicsokey doke thanks05:57
bimberivarsedangger: np05:58
Severianfrank23,   nslookup ns.berkeley.edu05:58
varsedanggeri'm a member05:58
crimsuns/nslookup/host/05:58
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bob2frank23: 164.67.128.1 works05:58
bob2(ucla)05:58
dabaRbob2: well, how about updates and security updates for him, tho?05:58
bigfoot1hey friends, anybody here syncs his pocket pc with breezy? What software should I use? I followed the howto of synce and the connection works, but what software do i use to view, input my PIM info?05:59
bob2dabaR: this is to find the problem, not a final solution05:59
frank23bob2: ok thanks05:59
varsedangger.... still no sound other than my system sounds... like ding when i tab over in terminal, and ubuntu startup05:59
Nogimicsthis place is hectic lol05:59
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intelikeyinteresting  "audio privilages"    hmmmm  i never thought of such a thing.   my user account only has one group but i play all audio from there.....   but this is not ub.05:59
kevmanNogimics, welcome to IRC06:00
Nogimicslol im on IRC loads its only when you dont know what your talking about a channel becomes confusing lol06:00
bob2intelikey: older sun machines had /dev/dsp be world writable, which let people with logins listen in on you06:00
varsedanggerintelikey, what do you run?06:00
thomaslsamohtbob i replaced my list with that one line06:01
thomaslsamohtand there is no wine package in synaptic06:01
bigfoot1does anybody here use synce and/or multisync?06:01
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thomaslsamohtwith the 1 repository you gave me.06:01
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woddf2Haldo06:01
bob2thomaslsamoht: you ran 'sudo apt-get update'?06:02
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thomaslsamohtsynaptic does that when u load doesn't it?06:02
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woddf2How do I add Windoze to /boot/grub/menu.lst ?06:02
bob2thomaslsamoht: no idea06:02
bob2I don't use synaptic06:02
bimberibigfoot1: "multisync" enables syncing with evolution (though a bit flakey when i used it about 18 months ago)06:02
bimberithomaslsamoht: no, hit the reload button06:03
bigfoot1bimberi: that's what i was guessing. So what is the purpose of synce, then? Does multisync need synce to work?06:03
thomaslsamohtk bob the only packages relating to wine are the docs and the xwine gui06:03
thomaslsamohtbut no wine base.06:03
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bob2thomaslsamoht: something is deeply wrong with your sytem06:04
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thomaslsamohteven when it WAS a fresh install, wine wasn't there.06:04
Chizncrossover office relates to wine06:04
thomaslsamohtmy system runs smooth, no broken packages06:04
bimberithomaslsamoht: are you running amd64?06:04
thomaslsamohtyeah...06:04
thomaslsamoht:(06:04
Chiznaaand cedega06:04
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bimberiaha!06:05
thomaslsamohti mentioned that before.06:05
bob2BAH06:05
bob2thomaslsamoht: then no wine for you06:05
Chiznah, sorry, wasnt watching06:05
bimberimissed that bit :/06:05
thomaslsamohtwhen i first came here for help06:05
thomaslsamohtouch!06:05
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thomaslsamohteven if i compile it?06:05
bob2also, I want ten minutes of my life back06:05
bob2do you know what wine does?06:05
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thomaslsamohtyeah.. i've used it before.06:05
Chiznyou drink it and you get intoxicated, right bob2?06:05
thomaslsamohtand i didn't make you sit here.06:05
woddf2No06:05
bob2thomaslsamoht: if you care about binary-only junk, use the i386 port of ubuntu06:05
Chizn... sorry06:05
bigfoot1what command do i run in cli to find out what version of a package i have?06:05
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bob2bigfoot1: dpkg -l packagename06:06
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woddf2No one answered my question.06:06
bimberibigfoot1: synce is mostly libraries as far as i can tell, other apps (such as multisync and synce-kde) use it06:06
frank23bob2: your ucla name server does work but not for every site. ex:  www.bnc.ca   doesn't resolve :(06:06
thomaslsamohtif everyone with a x64 just runs the i386 then theres no reason to push the bracket06:06
thomaslsamohtmeh06:06
thomaslsamoht:(06:06
dabaRI fixed a friend's resolution now, and it removed her desktop from being loaded in gnome, is that even possible to be related?06:06
bob2thomaslsamoht: I don't know what you mean06:06
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|wwis there a program that i can mount the usr partition of a FreeBSD drive?06:07
thomaslsamohtif everyone with a x64 bit just installed 32 bit06:07
bob2thomaslsamoht: if yo ucare about binarly-only junk like windows programs, tho, you'll have less issues using the i386 port06:07
thomaslsamohttheres no point06:07
bob2thomaslsamoht: yes06:07
thomaslsamohti just want wine06:07
bob2no06:07
thomaslsamohtto run some desklets i had for windows i compiled to exe06:07
bob2you want "wine and to run 32-bit windows executables"06:07
thomaslsamohtyeah.06:07
intelikey!grub06:07
ubotumethinks grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting06:07
bob216:05:49           bob2 | thomaslsamoht: if you care about binary-only junk, use the i386 port of ubuntu06:07
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thomaslsamohto bob i should mention this too, i was screwing around with that klik system, and wine did run.06:08
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sambagirlwhy you just want wine? you not like other things? aqua? umm how they sya pop?  juice?06:08
thomaslsamohtbut there were no arguments of course.06:08
bob2I have no idea what "klik" is06:08
thomaslsamohtbut it ran.06:08
bob2if it's some random non-ubuntu software install thing, then good uck06:08
thomaslsamohtlook it up.06:08
hoslerThe gnome-volume-manager mounts /dev/sda3 under /media/ipod, but i want it to mount /dev/sda2. How can i fix this?06:08
bob2you can make wine work under ubuntu on an amd64 system if you like, but it's mre effort06:08
frank23bob2: do you use that 164.67.128.1  name server you gave me? and if so can you resolve  www.bnc.ca  ?06:09
bob2if you really care about running windows applications, just install the i386 port, you'll be happier06:09
bob2frank23: nope06:09
benplautis gkrellm lightweight?06:09
thomaslsamohti don't care that much, but i would be willing to break a little to get this installed.06:09
frank23bob2: you don't use that server?06:09
bob2"break a little"?06:09
bob2frank23: indeed06:09
thomaslsamohti'm not going to be running anything too complex with it..06:09
bob2frank23: my isp is not useless06:09
Nogimicshmmm I added the universe repositories but when using sudo apt-get vsftp it did not work06:09
hoslerThe gnome-volume-manager mounts /dev/sda3 under /media/ipod, but i want it to mount /dev/sda2. How can i fix this?06:10
frank23bob2: thanks anyways ;-)06:10
NogimicsI did a sudo apt-get update too06:10
thomaslsamohtmount it manually?06:10
bimberiubotu tell thomaslsamoht about chroot06:10
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NogimicsAny ideas people?06:10
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tamaHey06:10
tamaNeed help06:10
varsedanggertama what is up?06:11
bimberiNogimics: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:11
IcemanV9Nogimics: sudo apt-get install vsftp06:11
intelikeyhosler check /etc/fstab06:11
mshadeanyone run X at a resolution higher than 1280x1024?06:11
thomaslsamohtthanks for the tip bimberi06:11
tamavarsedangger, i have a low ram system .. 64meg and gnome cannot run on it.. i want to use XFCE insted06:11
tamahow can i go about doing this?06:11
bimberithomaslsamoht: yw :)06:11
Nogimicshehe im dumb IcemanV9 thanks06:11
Shadowlinemshade: is 1600x1200 big enough ?06:11
bigfoot1bimberi: it's been 18 months for you, but do you remember where i can find instructions to getting multisync and evolution working? (I already got synce working fine just now).06:11
varsedanggerahh i still don't know how to get sound workiing on ubuntu?06:11
IcemanV9nah, just forgot to add "install", Nogimics :)06:12
mshadeShadowline: that's what I'm trying to get :)06:12
Nogimicsok maybe not it said bulding dependancy tree then failed06:12
thomaslsamohtyou know what i think debootstrap failed on install..06:12
thomaslsamohti can't remember06:12
thomaslsamohtit was a while ago06:12
thomaslsamoht><06:12
intelikeytama disable cups  and gnome might run06:12
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NogimicsCouldnt find package vsftp06:12
varsedanggertama, i'm no ubuntu guru, just being nice, i'm not sure06:12
bimberibigfoot1: haha, it was on a redhat system ...06:12
Shadowlinemshade: outa curiousity, what vid card ?06:12
tamaintelikey, thats cupsd stop?06:12
mshadeShadowline: radeon 9000 pro06:12
mshadeShadowline: i've got DRI working, no sweat, but i can't get it to go above 1280x102406:13
NogimicsThats better, missed the d of the end06:13
Shadowlinemshade: want to see my xorg.conf ?06:13
intelikeysudo /etc/init.d/cup* stop06:13
mshadeShadowline: i'd love to06:13
bigfoot1bimberi: ok.06:13
thomaslsamohthey bimbery, will this environment be permenant?06:13
mshadeShadowline: pastebin06:13
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Shadowlinemshade: one sec and I'll dcc it to you06:13
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mshadeShadowline: ok06:13
intelikeytama yeah06:14
erichello all06:14
hoslerintelikey, gnome doesnt use fstab to mount stuff06:14
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bimberibigfoot1: i think you need to install multisync, libmultisync-plugin-evolution and synce-multisync-plugin06:14
mshadeShadowline: what card do you have?06:14
tamahehe alright sweet06:14
ericanyone have much luck with gxine and win codec06:14
hoslereric, no06:14
hoslereric, use mplayer06:14
ericokay06:15
bimberibigfoot1: hopefully some good reading at http://multisync.sourceforge.net06:15
Shadowlinemshade: nvidia06:15
intelikeyhosler well if you put it in fstab you can mount it from gnome..... sorry if that wasn't what you wanted.06:15
mshadeShadowline: cool.06:15
ericwere do you have to put the codec for mplayer06:15
Shadowlinemshade: but it might give you some hints as to the correct mode lines to use06:15
varsedanggereric, you can apt-get it if you have the multiverse in your sources.list06:15
dabaReric: just install it, and it will put itself where it is needed.06:15
ericmultiverse ?06:16
Severianeric, I have better luck with Totam-xine on Ubuntu, but most things play in Mplayer.06:16
mshadeShadowline: there aren't any modelines in yours :)06:16
mshadeShadowline: mine is along the same lines as yours hmm06:16
erici have universe were is multiverse06:16
dabaReric: its in multiverse.06:16
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ericsorry about that06:17
dabaRno worries06:17
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Shadowlinemshade: notice msg06:17
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bigfoot1bimberi: i'm on that website, but no instructions.06:19
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Nogimicshmm I installed vsftpd and at the end it said could not set home directory and also when i sudo vsftpd it says 500: oops could not bind listening piv4 socket06:20
bimberibigfoot1: sorry, i wasn't sure - i saw the link in a package description06:20
ericthanx06:20
jubeiHi, what is the equivalent for /etc/modules.conf or /etc/modprobe.conf in ubuntu?06:20
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erici was going nuts I found the codec and installed them were it said to and it still could not find them06:21
dabaReric: ya its easier with debs, for sure.06:21
dabaReric: got the deb at all, and the idea what you are supposed to do?06:21
eric???06:21
erici found the mplayer in multi and am installing it now06:22
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dabaReric: you should get the w32codecs deb package and install it. that is what I suggest.06:22
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Severianjubei,   how about   /etc/modules06:22
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dabaReric: see any messages from ubotu ?06:22
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Fletchwhere can i get libgtk06:22
levanderAnybody know if the ruby bindings to libcurl are packaged in ubuntu?06:22
FletchI have to download it form windows and put it on my thumb coz the linux pc doesnt have net yet06:23
dabaRpackages.ubuntu.com06:23
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intelikeyFletch 'apt-cache search libgtk '06:23
jubeiSeverian: i saw that file, is it the one i'm after?06:23
ericgot ya06:23
thomaslsamohtlol fletch i was having problems getting that earlier too06:24
thomaslsamoht:l06:24
levanderFletch: why do you want to manually install gtk?  if an application you want needs it, apt will install it when you install that application06:24
Fletchlevander, the linux pc doesnt have net06:24
Fletchwhen i tried to install xmms06:24
thomaslsamohtfletch06:24
FletchIt wouldnt because it depends on libgtk06:24
thomaslsamohtyou are on the net!06:24
dabaReric: really all programs will be able to play most media formats if you install the w32codecs, and the proper other codecs(see ubotu's message about codecs)06:24
thomaslsamohto06:24
Severianjubei, I don't know what you are trying to accomplish, but it might be.  It does specify kernel modules.  Do you want to add one, or what?06:24
thomaslsamohtur not on that computer06:24
thomaslsamoht:l06:24
FletchIm on the windows computer....06:24
thomaslsamohto.06:24
Fletchheh06:24
erici have been able to install all the others fine06:25
thomaslsamohttry looking for a binary / package06:25
dabaRFletch: so, you got the xmms package?06:25
thomaslsamohtand put it on a cd or something06:25
jubeii'm following this guide http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=62 i want to change my mouse poll rate06:25
Nogimics500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket06:25
jubeithey suggest adding a line "options usbhid mousepoll=[polling interval] "06:25
NogimicsAnyone tell me what that means when running vsftpd06:25
thomaslsamohteric: install mplayer.06:25
thomaslsamoht:D06:25
ericdo i untar these in /usr/bin/win3206:26
ericyes06:26
dabaRNogimics: running in what way?06:26
intelikeyFletch the wiki about repos should help you find the deb's you are looking for.06:26
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thomaslsamohteric out of the box mplayer plays everything.06:26
dabaReric: the w32codecs.deb? no, sudo dpkg -i w32codecs.deb06:26
ericokay about to try it06:26
levanderFletch: why not spending your time getting the linux box on the network, then everything else will be a lot easier06:26
Nogimicswell it installed with an error, i was trying to "sudo vsftpd"06:26
ericokay06:26
|wwsuggestions for software on scanning a ufs drive that had bad sectors to make it readable?06:26
Nogimicsit installed but I dont know how to configure it06:26
dabaRNogimics: there is no such thing. do sudo invoke-rc.d vsftpd restart and see what that does. Also, what errors during install?06:27
daakuwhat modules need to be loaded for a usb mouse to work? i know my xorg.conf's fine.. cant figure out the modules06:27
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Severianthomaslsamoht, I've installed the codecs and mplayer does fine on local content.  It does poorly for streaming web content.  It may be a configuration deal, but totem-xine plays everything I've tried.06:27
jubeiSeverian: they suggest adding a line "options usbhid mousepoll=[polling interval] " to the file to configure a module parameter06:27
ericokay now this will sound stupid but some times when i install from synaptic I cannot find the program06:27
FletchOk thanks06:27
thomaslsamohto i havn't tried streaming06:27
thomaslsamoht:o06:27
Nogimicsits stopped and started it fine06:27
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thomaslsamohtmplayer is messy too06:28
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jubeiSeverian: but i dont know if that is what /etc/modules is for06:28
dabaReric: to list files installed with a package, sudo dpkg -L package, and then see which one is the executable, usually same name as the package too.06:28
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NogimicsIt just said Not Creating Home Directory06:28
dabaRNogimics: then you are fine, it is running.06:28
Nogimicsis there a GUI to vsftpd or is it all command line?06:28
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intelikeysudo is not needed for listing me thinks06:28
thomaslsamohti give i'm going back to x3206:28
thomaslsamoht:o06:28
thomaslsamohti'm waiting till things are actually ported.06:29
thomaslsamohtits really annoyoing.06:29
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NogimicsJust need to know how to configure it now then, anyone got a link to a decent tutorial on vsftpd?06:29
peejjust upgraded from hoary cd to hoary net, then to breezy yesterday. Today I try apt-get upgrade --dry-run and find I have a bunch of new packages I can upgrade to in breezy. Is breezy not as fossilized and stable as debian stable is?06:29
Severianjubei, I have not messed with the file much.  Sorry.  I added a module when I was using Warty, but I have not needed to since then.  I did put parameters on the module line to configure my isa soundcard, so I know it is reasonable to do so.06:30
levanderYou know they've got ocaml bindings for libcurl in breezy, but not a binding for ruby.06:30
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Severianpeej, I sure hope not.06:30
kdevilHow do you pronounce Ubuntu: "You-buntu" or "Ooh-buntu"?06:30
jubeiSeverian: did you use that format "options [module name]  [parm1=foo parm2=bar parm3=baz] "?06:30
NogimicsYou-buntu06:31
Nogimicslol06:31
kdevilThought so06:31
dabaRkdevil: they tell you on the site06:31
ericthanx for the help guys but it is just too late for me06:31
intelikeyoo bun too06:31
dabaRkdevil: its oohboohntooh!06:31
dabaRNogimics: what do you want to know about sftp?06:31
ericthe mplayer will not install for some reason  i ll figure it out later06:31
erictake care all and thanx again06:32
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Nogimicssftp? not that much06:32
mattpj1how do i make my dsl modem work for a usb port ?06:32
dabaRthat is what vsftpd is06:32
Severianjubei, I don't remember what the parameters looked like.  They were to specify io ports and irq, but I did not save the information.  I did not need it after I moved to Hoary.06:32
peejSeverian, the cool thing about debian stable was that you could stay updated/secure with very little change. Breezy seems like a testing branch of debian. I would like a clue on how breezy should be viewed.06:32
Fletchis there any mp3 players with ubuntu06:32
Fletchbuilt in06:32
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ISOcratescan you guys point me to a good tutorial on setting up apache on ubuntu?06:33
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Nogimicswell I need to run a ftp server on this box and asked for the best suggestions :)06:33
dabaRNogimics: when you install a server, and want to configure someting, you look at the config file, usually in /etc/serverName/serv.conf or something06:33
Nogimicsvsftpd was what was suggested, so im gonn have to learn06:33
mattpj1how do i setup my dsl modem for usb not network card06:33
thomaslsamohtooooooooooo06:33
thomaslsamohttricky06:33
bimberiFletch: rhythmbox is installed, but mp3 codecs are not06:34
dabaRNogimics: well, you will want to connect from another computer, using sftp, or ftp over ssh, or something like that.06:34
bimberiubotu tell Fletch about mp306:34
Nogimicsim 2 days in to linux so I ask stupid stuff and dont know whaty im talking about lol06:34
Severianpeej  You are right and you have to go with what suits you.  Ubuntu tries to be quite stable, but fairly up to date.  As much as I am looking forward to a newer kernel with inotify support, I think Ubuntu strikes a good balance.  But, your needs may differ.06:34
dabaRgood06:34
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skyllthere are no usb cable modem drivers06:34
skyllbuy a network card06:34
tamais XFCE on the ubuntu cd?06:34
peejSeverian, today's upgrades download is about 19MB. That's about par if you update breezy daily?06:34
Nogimicsill look in that dir06:34
thomaslsamohtyeh man06:34
mattpj1i said dsl modem i got a network card but i want to use usb06:34
thomaslsamohtnetwork cards06:34
bimberitama:06:34
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thomaslsamohtare like 15 bucks06:34
dabaRNogimics: ftp itself does not encrypt passwords, or the files sent, so that is why people use sftp06:35
bimberitama: no06:35
thomaslsamohtsave yourself a headache06:35
thomaslsamohtlol06:35
nemikso a quick shell scripting question, how can i echo out the current date and time?06:35
mattpj1i have a network card06:35
Severianpeej, the first few days after I upgraded to Breezy, I had some updates.  But, it is usually quiet.06:35
NogimicsYeah I knwo the difference06:35
thomaslsamohtuse it!06:35
mattpj1i want usb tho im asking not for tips but how to06:35
peejSeverian, thanks06:35
cgepeej: When I was using Breezy I didn't really have any updates after it was released.06:35
thomaslsamohtskyll said it man06:35
bimberinemik: date06:35
Severianpeej, when Breezy was in beta there were lots of 100 package update days.06:35
thomaslsamohttheres no hope.06:35
intelikeytama no  but it is in the mmmmm universe repo i think    "sudo apt-get install xfce406:35
thomaslsamohtwhy would you prefer usb over a network cable?06:36
nemikbimberi, echo "the date is" + date; ?06:36
thomaslsamohtwhat are the advantages?06:36
mattpj1because i wanna use the network card for something else06:36
tamaintelikey, yeah it is, but this pc has no net06:36
mattpj1it shows up on the usb devices06:36
thomaslsamohtlike a different computer?06:36
peejooooh. it's universe. universe updates. ooops.06:36
thomaslsamohtmatt06:36
bimberinemik: no, sec....06:36
thomaslsamohtthere are no drivers though06:36
mattpj1yes like a different comp but no i dont wanna buy a hub06:36
dabaRnemik: echo 'the date is `date`'06:36
NogimicsdebaR the vsftpd.conf file is in etc, will I be able to configure all users from there and all other settings? I take it this app has no GUI at all and it will be all command line06:36
thomaslsamohtu could daisy chain06:36
thomaslsamohtlol06:36
thomaslsamoht:o06:36
nemikthanks dabaR06:37
thomaslsamohtis your other computer windows?06:37
mattpj1no06:37
bimberinemik: or, echo "the date is" $(date)06:37
thomaslsamohto okay.06:37
intelikeywell use apt-cache show xfce4   and dl the deb  then  dpkg -i <file.deb>06:37
dabaRnemik: backquotes, `` are used for command substitution06:37
thomaslsamohtif your other computer was windows..06:37
thomaslsamohtyou could hook ur dsl modem up to that06:37
mattpj1i know06:37
thomaslsamohtand share between computers06:37
thomaslsamohtyeah..06:37
thomaslsamohtdude06:37
thomaslsamohtno drivers = no luck06:37
nemikdabaRE ahhh ok i was using just '' not ``, makes sense now06:37
mattpj1but one thing i dont understand why after all these programs on linux dont they have a driver type for usb internet connections?06:37
thomaslsamohtif there was a way, i'd get my creative zen micro working with linux.06:38
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thomaslsamohtmatt06:38
thomaslsamohtits the maker of the modem06:38
HrdwrBoBmattpj1: 'usb internet connection' means not much06:38
thomaslsamohtthey don't release their drivers06:38
nemikthank you both; bimberi and dabaR06:38
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bimberinemik: np :)06:38
thomaslsamohtif creative released the drivers for my mp3 player06:38
intelikeyerr apt-cache search xfce4   that would be..... no wait no net means that it wont even list things on the web.....  hehhe well tama you'll have to find the file name some other way.06:38
thomaslsamohtthere wouldn't be an issue.06:38
SeverianNogimics, for configuring vsftp, I find google to be handy.  The biggest problem I have with the package is that the options are not all well documented.  For example, what is the parameter to set the home directory for the anonymous user?06:38
mattpj1its just said people dont use wine and such for these problems06:38
thomaslsamohtits the same with your dsl06:38
MachineScrewthomaslsamoht, what mp3 player06:38
tamaintelikey, yeah :(06:39
thomaslsamohtcreative zen micro06:39
thomaslsamoht5gb06:39
naliothintelikey: apt-cache searches on the local machine06:39
MachineScrewthomaslsamoht, I had one worked perfectly06:39
NogimicsNo documentation with a program is terrible06:39
thomaslsamohtwith linux?06:39
mattpj1thomaslsamoht there more then likely is a way around it i found out how to use my mp3 player on linux called research06:39
MachineScrewthomaslsamoht, yep06:39
Severianmattpj1, I use a USB nic on a couple of systems.  They work perfectly in Ubuntu.06:39
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birdhey06:39
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intelikeytama i can't do it for you unless you want an i586.mdk.rpm   version  :)06:39
Nogimicswhat is the command to distinguish between files and DIR's again?06:39
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thomaslsamohtseverian06:40
birdhow do i tell the terminal to open a program in the GUI?06:40