=== \sh is now known as \sh_away === \sh_away is now known as \sh === JaneW [n=JaneW@209.104.102.193] has joined #edubuntu === ajmitch__ is now known as ajmitch_ === pitux [i=pitux@217-183-222-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === cata_lemc [n=ircap751@111-232-28.dial.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [01:36] hello, zorry for my english, but i am chilena [01:37] hello cata welcome to the channel [01:37] also can your visit the channell ubuntu-es [01:39] thanks [01:39] soy el jose [01:39] si esta es tu primera visita por el irc [01:39] te puedo ayudar, no hay problema [01:40] sadly not a community exists even in Spanish [01:40] a hola pepe la cata de lemc [01:40] entre como le dije al profesor [01:40] no exist the oficial community in spansih [01:41] pero te invito a visitar ubuntu-es [01:41] como no lo encontre [01:41] esa es la comunidad de ubuntu en espaol [01:41] ayer llegue a la casa y me puse a buscar informacion y no encontre na [01:41] a el mauricio talvez se conecte mas tarde [01:42] y que canal es esa comunidad [01:42] por que el profe me dio esta no ma [01:43] esa es la comunidad de edubuntu [01:43] ya pero que dire pa cvachar [01:43] osea nos juntamos todos los usuarios de ubuntu que hablamos espaol [01:43] y damos soporte a los osuarios que recien empiezan [01:43] hablamos de cualquier cosa [01:43] participamos en proyectos etc [01:44] y esta es la comunidad de edubuntu [01:44] para usuarios de edubuntu [01:44] que es una ubuntu pere con mas software educativo [01:45] ya pero esa comunidad ene spaol [01:45] tiene alguna pagina u otro canal donde se reunan [01:45] si ps todos hablan en espaol [01:46] ahi puedes decir por ejemplo "hola quiero instalar linux alguien me puede ayudar" [01:46] y la gente que esta te va dando consejos etc [01:46] el canal es #ubuntu-es [01:46] en este mismo server [01:47] si freenode es el server [01:47] donde hay mas comunidades de software libre a nivel amundial [01:47] pka [01:49] oye tu estas en esa sala tambien o no? [01:53] sip [01:53] yo me conecto como cinco canles siempre === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.5.113.111] has joined #edubuntu [01:54] oye me meti y no existe [01:54] pedi un listado y tampoco aparece [01:54] yo estoy adentro se llama #ubuntu-es [01:54] en freenode [01:55] por dionde chateas pone "/join #ubuntu-es" [01:55] ya po si es este mismo server o no? [01:55] sin las comillas dobles [01:56] te va a mandar directamente al canal [01:56] el slash lo debes respetar [01:56] si ya gracias === mhz [n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu [02:00] hi [02:00] mhz [02:00] holas [02:00] recibi la encuesta [02:01] thx [02:01] una comapera entro a freenode [02:01] heeeeeee [02:01] y como se sintio? [02:01] nadie respondio [02:01] solo yo [02:01] hehehe [02:01] que canal? [02:01] esta chateando ahora en ubuntu-es [02:01] como se llama? 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[02:46] apokryphos: yesterday I was on a 1-day-seminar and had the chance to talk to one UK guy from Becta.org.uk [02:46] he said he'd be very interested in seeing how edubuntu works [02:47] and maybe have some contact with the UK community [02:47] wow, nice [02:47] mhz: there's a few more of us in #ubuntu-uk. sabdfl himself is located in London, IIRC. [02:47] cool! :D [02:48] now, if he lives in Chile (don't know but he spoke good spanish) I can demo it to him. If not, maybe you could get him there [02:48] mhz: whereabouts in the UK is he? [02:49] hihi [02:49] yeah. I know there's a -uk channel, however, IMHO, there's quite a diff between Linux topics (ie #ubuntu) and ICT issues regarding education [02:49] certainly === \sh_away is now known as \sh [02:50] I'm pretty familiar with the edu components of ubuntu; perhaps moreso the KDE ones (I've written quite some documentation for them) [02:50] Edubuntu people (me, ie) are fans of Linux (not mandatory) but we are mainly interested on how we apply ICT foe better processes [02:51] and so, my idea of edubuntu gang getting in touch with people working on education [02:51] I use edubuntu with Wmaker, Kde, Gnome, Fluxbox and XFCE4 [02:52] I installed Linux on a couple of school computers; convinced the technicians after some time 8) [02:52] just depending on the server + network layout and the clients [02:52] right [02:52] cool [02:53] Next wed. I'll install on 16 lab computers, at Universidad de Santiago, for 'about-to-become-Math teachers' [02:53] sorry... lab with 16 pcs [02:53] nice; it's good to see Linux comps being used more. Been tutoring a few computer science friends on a lot of basics, too [02:54] indeed [02:54] so, shall I get in touch with this guy and see if someone from edubuntu can contact him? [02:55] I'm not on any Edubuntu team [02:55] ohh [02:55] currently, there are no teams, AFAIK [02:55] we are THE team [02:55] 8) [02:56] there's an Edubuntu team listed on Launchpad isn't there? [02:56] ohh, well, yes [02:56] yep === zakame reminds himself to get a copy for upgrading from hoary [02:56] are you familiar with it? can you talk about edubuntu? [02:57] sure; perhaps not as well as Kubuntu, but I'd think so [02:58] the result of being a terrible addict to IRC and *buntu =) [02:59] ehehhee === th1a [n=hoffman@66.103.220.231] has joined #edubuntu [02:59] see? then u're ready [03:00] I can't find his biz card yet but I will [03:00] Ok, let me know where he's located. If it's nearby, I wouldn't mind making a visit [03:00] educool [03:00] now i gotta get cooking [03:00] hihi [03:01] heheh [03:01] enjoy [03:01] thx === mhz is now known as mhz_cooking === JaneW [n=JaneW@209.104.102.193] has joined #edubuntu [03:01] JaneW: hi [03:02] mhz_cooking: hello, how's the cooking? [03:02] hehehe [03:02] about to start [03:02] mhz_cooking: I see you have been trying to get hold of me... Mark is about to start the program for the day... [03:03] JaneW: as I mentioned before, we're planning and actually doing a lot of stuff here in Santiago, Chile regarding Edubuntu [03:03] the schedule has been pretty full, I have been allocated from 9am to 8pm each day [03:03] okidoki [03:03] np === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [03:03] mhz_cooking: I have told MArk that we have an interested and active Chile community [03:03] as long as you still love me [03:03] yes we love you a lot [03:04] community? so far we're no more than 4 active people [03:04] :( [03:04] we are just trying to do as much as we can while we are here... [03:04] 4 can be a community ;) [03:04] it;s a start [03:04] but next wed i have a huge "let's see what edubuntu is like" and I could use some officiality :D [03:04] in what way? [03:05] 16 Math teachers will be trained on edubuntu [03:05] these 16 techers are in their final term of studyng at university [03:06] and we are convincing them (motivating them) to start 'crossing' the math curriculmm with ICT tools (edubuntu) === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [03:07] yesterday one of them joined IRC (here) for 1st time but no spanish speakers found [03:07] so she called me :) [03:08] next Thursday, I have to demo edubuntu to one of the largest Teachers/Schools oriented orgs, here (they reach 4000 schools!) [03:08] JaneW: if i can convince this org to help us, then we can do huge stuff for Edubuntu Chilean Tour [03:09] JaneW: IMHO, edubuntu 'fans' profile is bit diff from xUbuntu users [03:11] mmm??? [03:11] so 'officiality' could mean to have access to 'formal' docs (paper, cards, posters, etc) that help us show we're not talking only about a 'distro' but a serious company-like worl [03:12] JaneW: yesterday I was on a semninar talking with Chilean Gov. people (education minester, ie) and Schools principals, etc. === jeffbuntu [n=chatzill@i3se011a.univ-brest.fr] has joined #edubuntu === magnon [n=co@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #edubuntu [03:16] these people are SO USED to having M$ campaigns and M$-like biz images that everytime I mentioned what we are doing (esp. when mentioning the 'comunity') they couldn't quite get all ideas. They asked me for brouchers, studies or surveys regarding % of teachers willing to use Edubuntu in schools, how the tools in edubuntu would help on specific chilean educational curriculum , etc [03:19] mhz_cooking: are you requesting for support? === mhz [n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu [03:22] re [03:22] JaneW: sorry [03:22] (i forgot I was on batteries) [03:24] JaneW: basically, I guess that 'officiality' for these people would mean to have 'real official things', at least while I get time to produce all the data we'll need (surveys, studies, etc). Officiality could even be "official Edubuntu Cd's", broucheres, stand, etc [03:27] mhz: that's asking a lot in my opinion [03:28] jsgotangco: yes, indeed [03:28] jsgotangco: and I am not asking for ALL that, BTW [03:29] mhz: we're too small atm [03:30] please, don't think I want that. I am just saying/discussing here that we could have a plan [03:30] we could even figure out what to say to many FAQ's or comparission these kind of peopl do [03:33] jsgotangco: ie. i could afford to have some biz cards printed out. Can I print or even include edubuntu logo on biz cards? === JaneW [n=JaneW@209.104.102.193] has joined #edubuntu [03:34] biz cards are easy [03:34] but edubuntu-marketing is another story [03:35] jsgotangco: i guess, but my current biz cards say 'tecnocimiento' and they do not mention edubuntu anywhere. I dont' knw if i can just include it or I have to follow a certain procedure, ie. [03:36] I got disconnected so I'll resend my last msges in case they weren't received [03:36] mhz_cooking: we don't have much official stuff wrt edubuntu, but there are a few ubuntu resources available [03:36] mhz_cooking: I don't think we'll have any 'marketing' budget for edubuntu before dapper is releases [03:37] mhz_cooking: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences for what is available and how to get it... [03:37] JaneW: ok [03:37] mhz: you'll see a brochure or two that mentions edubuntu... [03:37] mhz: it was done with breezy in mind [03:38] JaneW: what if i get some funds here in Chile, what can/can't I do with them using Edubuntu name/image? [03:38] jsgotangco: ok [03:38] mhz: but feel free to make your own as well, who knows they might be used as well [03:39] jsgotangco: so, you say that there's no 'procedure' i must follow before? [03:39] mhz: printing your own stuff is not an issue at all, jeff elkner and paul flint has done the same thing [03:39] mhz: logo usage for ubuntu applies for edubuntu as well i assume [03:39] ohh [03:40] mhz: in fact you're empowered to make a business model behind it [03:40] mhz: it would be nice if we can see what you produce... but I don;t think even that is compulsary, but please do use your discretion [03:40] yes logos are trademarked to Canonical and must be stated as such [03:41] JaneW: any news on CDs" [03:41] ? [03:41] mhz: we are not getting CDs for breezy, but will get some for Dapper when it's more polished === mhz snifs [03:41] again you are free to make your own, and we'll encourage ppl to use your packaging if they do so [03:42] JaneW: ahh that makes things clearer then :) [03:42] mhz: don't worry its called growing pains :) [03:42] we will also look at ogra's suggestion of using his contact to press and ship Cds for a small fee (to cover costs) [03:42] we are still seen as a community project === vincenzio [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:43] JaneW, we'll need a text for the CD cover... "lorem ipsum" isnt really informative to the users ;) [03:44] ogra: no problem, I can solve that 2day === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.213.222.2] has joined #edubuntu [03:44] copy and pasting parts of the release notes and wrapping it in some text should be enough [03:45] JaneW: I was talkign to apokryphos a bit before suggesting he gets in contact with a UK guy from becta.org.uk [03:45] he was interested in seeing edubuntu an talk to an 'official edubuntu' memeber? [03:46] when I told him we're a community... his faced changed a bit [03:46] :) [03:46] You have to be in Linux a lot of time to notice the community; never noticed it at all when I wasn't in it [03:46] peple seem to be reticent to 'communities' when it comes to make biz decision based on 'community' tools [03:47] JaneW: so that's one of the little stupid questions so far I have no proper answer for. [03:48] mhz: its a community project, business are empowered to make a business model behind it [03:48] (maybe stupid is not the corrct word i meant) [03:48] jsgotangco: yes, indeed. I 100% agree [03:49] jsgotangco: I think I'll endup doing that [03:49] if business insists on having solid stuff we'll probably end up like red hat or suse [03:49] (which isn't really bad imo) [03:49] not bad, but not the sense [03:50] sir gotangco, good evening po! ^^ [03:50] aeon17x: hi [03:51] aeon17x: are you the one at LP? https://launchpad.net/people/snoocete [03:51] Yup, that's me. [03:51] jsgotangco: apokryphos mentioned he's not a memeber of edubuntu team. Does he need to be listed on launchpad to say he's memeber? :D [03:51] I think. [03:52] aeon17x: hihi :) [03:52] mhz: I'm not really involved in edubuntu in a real way; I'd feel dirty being listed there 8) [03:52] mhz: well since the lp page is controlled by ogra and JaneW, they are empowered to approve people based on contributions to the project.. [03:52] Oh my, Launchpad is down. =/ [03:52] its under maintenance [03:53] okidoki [03:54] mhz: a lot of development stuff will revolve around lp in the near future, at the moment, most of malone stuff is benefitting the group structure of lp [03:54] aeon17x: you're at UP too right? [03:54] mhz: now its being used heavily for specs in ubz [03:55] zakame: yeah, UP Diliman. [03:56] aeon17x: ooh :) Why not come up at #ubuntu-ph? :) [03:56] zakame: We have a local Ubuntu channel? Yay! *teleports* [04:04] mhz: we could get more solid ground on future stuff if we actually make at least a manual that integrates all the default components [04:12] jsgotangco: so, from your perspective, what are the current benefits to be or not to be in LP === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:13] mhz: what do you mean about not listed? ppl can request to be included in the team... it is moderated so ogra and I would approve the memebership, but we encourage ppl to participate and join the team === farruinn [n=nathan@cpe-69-201-11-248.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [04:14] indeed you need a LP account to join [04:14] mhz: and wrt your request about starting a spanish language mailing list for edubuntu, I think go ahead! However obviously Oliver and I would not be able to contribute to it, and if you have anything of relevance to the rest of the group please pst it to the english list as well. ok? [04:15] mhz: lp is an infrastructure that is unique to ubuntu/canonical, anything ubuntu related will use it [04:15] JaneW: heheh ok. it's just that I am so used to IRC and ML's that LauchPad is fairly new to me, so whan apokryphos mentioned he was not listed.. I then got questions in my head [04:15] mhz: including packaging [04:16] I am not sure what the protocal is for having it set up and whether you can use the ubuntu servers, ogra do you know? [04:16] https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu/+join ;) [04:16] JaneW: perfect! Oliver asked me to go thruogh the validation key process and I am on it now [04:16] mhz: and I the ide aof the survey is great, good idea, thanks! [04:16] JaneW, jdub is the guy to go to [04:16] JaneW: he'll have to ask jdub to set up a list [04:16] ok great [04:17] JaneW: but if i recall, our list can support multiple languages [04:17] mhz: sorry to have been ignoring you for days, it was a case of just being too busy to be here on IRC - sorry [04:17] as it is I have just missed the talks this morning so have no idea about BZR and HCT... [04:17] JaneW: as I said, np as long as you still love me :D [04:18] oops [04:18] JaneW: BZR is BAZ-NG [04:18] I love everyone who loves edubuntu and helps here :))) [04:18] heheh [04:18] educool then [04:18] esp ogra [04:18] JaneW: even slackers? [04:18] even slackers [04:18] jsgotangco: BUT YOU AREN;T A SLACKER :) === ogra throws air kisses to JaneW [04:19] i'm quite afraid at my future output for dapper... [04:19] yes, I guess ogra is the one receiving love on daily basis [04:19] jsgotangco: what you mean? === flint [n=flint@209.104.102.193] has joined #edubuntu [04:20] hey flint [04:20] ok then... [04:20] ogra: thanks for the kisses, workrave forced me to strech first before reposnding ;) [04:20] lol [04:21] hey flintstone [04:21] mhz: my job is getting more and more complicated by the day [04:21] non-ubz ppl the BOFs are starting now.. [04:22] jsgotangco: have you started your new job now? [04:22] JaneW: yes its terribly time-consuming at the moment [04:22] i only have time to idle around and chat [04:22] jsgotangco: hehehe [04:22] jsgotangco: lol [04:23] jsgotangco: well I hope you are enjoying it [04:23] seriously, my first week is hell [04:23] jsgotangco: i bet you knew all new processes are moe time consuming [04:23] let's wait a couple weeks and you'll be able to have more idling time :) [04:24] i truly doubt it [04:24] hehe [04:25] what do you do there? [04:25] slave around on 10 RHEL servers locally and 10 more remotely === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu [04:25] ooooops [04:25] how many users in total? [04:26] dunno probably millions its carrier grade linux [04:26] oooohhhh [04:26] then, u're right. [04:27] you won't have more time [04:27] at least more than current [04:27] at least no more than current [04:28] mhz: its a fun job and new for me (carrier grade), paycheck is good, pays the bills and enough to save more, but stress level is probably higher than usual because we're dealing of 24x7 systems on telco level [04:28] jsgotangco: if iget the funds for edubuntu here in chile, I promise at least you'll receive a t-shirt or mug (don't know which is 1st) [04:29] i'd love that :) [04:29] so you won't miss that much [04:29] but keep in mind that there'll be a chilean flag somewhere :) [04:30] oh i'll surely be around...but on a different level..i've been testing stuff on other fields that will most likely help edubuntu [04:30] and I DO NOT MEAN a $ tshirt -f chile :D [04:32] jsgotangco: great [04:32] now... i do gotta getr back to cooking [04:32] THANK you all for saving me the time to write so many mails with my doubts on it === mhz is now known as mhz_cooking [04:34] Sir gotangco, I have a suggestion. === magnon [n=co@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #edubuntu [04:34] aeon17x: sure please don't call me sir === magnon_ [n=co@209.104.102.193] has joined #edubuntu [04:35] :) [04:35] Hehe... anyway, I believe there should be a way for Edubuntu to be installed in an XFCE environment instead of GNOME straight from the installer. [04:36] aeon17x: the next version would most likely use XFCE for clients [04:37] Hah, that's great. [04:37] xubuntu-desktop [04:38] aeon17x: it'll depend on the guys BOF'ing it at UBZ (ogra, jammcq, sbalneaves, etc.) [04:39] jsgotangco, unlikely... [04:39] but you can always install xfce [04:39] mhz_cooking: you are approved :) [04:39] ogra: eh? [04:39] mhz_cooking: sorry I made you wait for 18 minutes ;) [04:40] jsgotangco, xfce is not in main [04:40] Dang. [04:40] and i wont be able to take care of an additional DE [04:40] unless someone makes an inclusion report? [04:40] additionally it wont fit on the CD [04:40] ogra: true [04:40] unless we seed something different entirely [04:40] (given 6 months of developmet that is asking too much already) [04:41] launchpad will support making derivative distros very easy, you should be able to make a xfce based CD then [04:41] jsgotangco, we only have 6 weeks [04:41] not 6 months [04:41] huh? [04:41] January? [04:41] dapper will freeze 1 month earlier ... === ogra mubles something about 5 year support [04:42] is there a release schedule already? [04:42] no big changes are allowed, only polish [04:42] nope, but thats the tendency [04:42] (i undestand the 5 year support for servers though) [04:42] jsgotangco: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule [04:42] and 3 years for desktops [04:43] apokryphos, thats not final yet [04:43] sure [04:43] im interested on the milestone and freeze dates [04:44] they should be public next week... [04:44] there are still discussions going on [04:45] but the main scope is to polish dapper and bring in as less new stuff as possible, modulo gnome, xorg and the kernel [04:45] s/dapper/breezy/ [04:46] ogra: we're sticking to 2.12.1? [04:47] i said modulo :) [04:47] aaye...didnt notice [04:47] these are the things that get updated in any case [04:48] xorg that'll be fun === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.247] has joined #edubuntu [04:48] xorg is already nearly 7.0 in breezy... the updates will be minopr [04:50] hola === magnon_ is now known as magnon [05:08] ogra: edubuntu is 47 now. W00t! [05:11] http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=4 [05:12] :-D === ogra needs to update his presentation ;) [05:29] wow freebsd 6 is released === \sh is now known as \sh_away === \sh_away is now known as \sh [05:51] JaneW: congrats [06:02] highvoltage: pour ce qui ? [06:02] I'm having my tenth grade class set up edubuntu and a science lab of clients. [06:03] but we're doing it as a gateway with two nics, NAT style. [06:03] any pitfalls we should look for? [06:03] highvoltage: sorry I am incredibly slow wrt your commnts, I got it... [06:04] vincenzio: there's nothing wrong with that type of setup, no [06:04] install the system with both nics inserted, or install with one and add the second nic and turn on NAT after the fact? [06:05] is this the server? [06:05] yes. [06:05] JaneW: sorry, i don't understand. [06:05] so the server will act as the gateway to the internet for all the thin clients and eventual thick clients as well? [06:05] hmm [06:05] what do you mean with slow wrt to my comments? [06:05] no, not the thick clients as well. [06:05] just the thin. [06:06] wow Edubuntu is no. 44 [06:06] vincenzio: so you have another gateway somewhere then [06:06] yes. [06:06] you won't need NAT on the terminal server [06:06] the thin clients connect to the internet from the terminal server anyway [06:07] oh good. [06:08] the programs are running on the server, so they're not connecting from the thin clients [06:08] so then they'll get DHCP from where? the main gateway? [06:08] from the terminal server [06:08] but two NICs is still a good idea [06:08] I use 2 nics, BTW [06:09] ISP -> eth0 AND eth1 -> switch -> thin clients [06:10] vincenzio: and dhcp is run from eth1 [06:10] I was going to do ISP->linksys gateway->switch->edubuntu eth0 and then edubuntu eth1->switch->clients [06:11] should work afaik [06:11] yeah, that's no problem [06:11] ogra did some nice 'tuxpaint' drawing about some layouts [06:12] :) === mhz_cooking is now known as mhz_kinder === mhz_kinder taking daughter to schol and bb === \sh is now known as \sh_away [06:22] highvoltage: it means "what for?", and then I understood [06:23] aaaaah. for the 47 position :) [06:23] sorry, seems like i'm a bit slow. [06:23] i think we're going in a circle :) === pere is now known as pere_gone [06:34] pere_gone: how are you? i didn't realise you were petter. [06:34] edoo: pere is Petter Reinholdtsen [06:34] highvoltage: gotcha [06:34]