=== marcin` [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:09] <\sh> slomo: I replied to the debian maintainer already...send your dpatch as attachment.. [12:10] siretart, sorry to bother but did you figure out the REVU thing... without being able to login I can't comment === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blablablablabla [n=maniac@i3ED6E5EA.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:57] Ouch Segfault in OO.org2 === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-123-253.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:08] hi minghua [01:08] hello LaserJock [01:11] This stinks. I need to make a Powerpoint and OO is segfaulting on me [01:12] Kyral: on dapper or breezy? [01:12] dapper === Kyral grumbles [01:32] Three different versions of OO.org2 [01:33] all Segfault for the same reason [01:34] I am left with only one option === Kyral fires up Bluefish [01:34] I can't make a proper PowerPoint [01:34] but I can make a damn good webpage that behaves like one! === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:48] PowerPoint is useless === bradb_ [n=bradb@66.103.220.234] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jimbob [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LostSole [n=drain@dsl092-238-221.phl1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@80-193-16-239.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:26] cevizoglu, but I am presenting to a busniess class where PowerPoint is the rule unfortunately [02:26] and once again I will pull up with a subpar thing [02:27] but damnit if it won't be proper HTML! [02:27] :) [02:28] I may not have fancy backgrounds, but damnit if my XHTML and CSS won't conform to the standard! [02:28] CSS does backgrounds well [02:29] I know, I mean like a graphic ;P [02:29] I just wish I knew JavaScript so I could put in a nice transition when I click on the Next link, or hell, even map the Spacebar to the link [02:30] google taught me how to do that :) [02:30] I don't have enought time to Google ;P [02:34] Would appreciate if you could dig something up :P === Jimbob [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:39] hi === Kyral waves [02:40] Another reason I should take out MS, so i will never be expected to make a damn PowerPoint ;P [02:40] don't worry, I've already tried that [02:40] you'll end up using OpenOffice Impress instead [02:41] lol [02:41] I can't [02:41] its friggin' segfaulting [02:45] Kyral, I'll see if I can whip something up [02:45] ty [02:46] I just want to get the basic stuff like content in tonight and basic structure [02:46] I can tweek it before class ;P [02:48] anyone know when the next CC meeting it? [02:48] *is [02:49] Like next Tuesday I believe [02:49] Kyral, here is a "changing picture" example... it uses settimeout and dhtml to change the image [02:49] http://www.subuntu.com/test.htm [02:49] you can grab the copy locally with curl [02:49] or view source from the browser, etc. [02:50] any MOTUs care to vouch for me for membership? I was approved months ago, mako never did anything with my CoC, so I got lost in the mix :-/ I no longer have my IRC logs of that meeting too :( [02:51] now that I'm going to start contributing again, I figure I should get that all cleared up [02:51] schweeb: documented on the wiki, correct? [02:51] Actually I have to clean up my Wiki......I still don't know if I should go for Membership this time around... [02:52] crimsun: yea, previous work is still documented on the wiki [02:52] couple of packages repaired, general (occasionally) helpful IRC presence, etc... [02:53] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChrisScheib === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-158-193.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:55] schweeb: I'll vouch for you, sure, but you need to document your involvement a little more explicitly [02:55] links to bug reports, package work, etc. are all recommended [02:56] speaking of contribution... what's the "proper" way to view universe bugs in malone? [02:56] I couldn't figure it out [02:56] you mean the proper way to link to them? [02:57] no, view them, when you're looking for packages to fix and such [02:58] you should be able to just browse to Ubuntu [02:58] there doesn't seem to be a good way to filter to view universe only bugs [02:59] schweeb: sometimes I use launchpad.net/people/motu/+assignedbugs but I don't think that gets everything [02:59] ah [02:59] cause this link doesn't work: https://launchpad.net/malone/assigned?name=motu [02:59] which is the one that I've been trying. [03:00] that's the link "assigned to: BLAH" gets you too from a normal bug view [03:00] yeah, I find launchpad to be quite confusing [03:01] still got a few quirks, that's for sure [03:02] RequestExpired [03:02] A server error occurred. [03:02] wtf [03:02] :( === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:02] It happens [03:02] I usually give Launchpad a while then try again :P [03:02] hi all [03:02] wait a sec... aren't most of the Ubuntu channels logged to somewhere? [03:03] if so, anyone know where? [03:03] yep [03:03] fabbione's logs [03:03] people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs [03:03] and locoteam logs at ubuntu-de.org/irclogs [03:03] hopefully they go back ~6 months :) [03:04] and they do [03:04] score === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] hi slomo === Kyral wonders if he could get someone to vouch for him [03:07] Kyral:hmm maybe you need to try when more people are around ;-) [03:07] Kyral: wiki url? [03:07] lol [03:08] wiki.ubuntu.com/ChrisPeterman [03:08] Most of my contrib comes via the Forums [03:08] hence why I linked my Forum profile [03:08] Kyral: ooh [03:10] I know Lathiat's wiki is supposed to be good https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrentLloyd [03:10] Kyral: need a bit more involvement imo [03:10] Yah, this may change over the weekend [03:10] Holding an installfest :D [03:11] Kyral: yeah, keep up the good work :D [03:11] and might wind up creating a LocoTeam for Potsdam NY [03:11] I have a lot of fun ideas (Like deploying Edubuntu into the Potsdam School District ;D) === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Got] [03:21] The install day should be fun :D [03:22] Hmmm, after uploading to REVU, what do I do next? [03:25] you wait. [03:25] or keep fixing and uploading [03:26] crimsun: ok :) [03:27] are there any packages which use NP-Hard algorithms? [03:27] I'm researching NP-Hard right now and I might like to jump in [03:28] you'll have better luck keeping things separate [03:29] woohoo [03:29] <3 [03:29] IRC logs rule [03:29] crimsun, are you talking to zakame? [03:29] http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/archived/2005-05/ubuntu-meeting-2005-05-10.html [03:29] cevizoglu: no, you. [03:30] schweeb: glad you got yours :) [03:30] crimsun, keep what separate? [03:32] cevizoglu: your research separate from packaging for the time being :p [03:32] keep in mind that any package dealing with a compiler or interpreting touches NP-hard [03:33] s/interpreting/interpreter/ [03:33] crimsun, I don't want to add anything of mine to packaging, I want to understand other approaches to NP-hard [03:33] (as I'm sure you know, having to deal with grammars) [03:33] crimsun, If I add something, it would be apart from my own research [03:34] cevizoglu: I don't _think_ there's any package specifically geared to facilitate it [03:34] crimsun, but there's no code which has to deal with NP-hard problems? [03:34] zakame: now I just need someone on the CC to throw me in the group on launchpad ;) [03:35] cevizoglu: any language compiler or interpreter does [03:35] crimsun, ok [03:35] but no, I doubt anyone has written a knapsack package specifically for the purpose of helping others understand P=NP, etc. [03:36] or at least why we theorize that P=NP [03:36] next comes motu-ness, which I still have quite a bit of work at [03:36] schweeb: ooh [03:36] s/have/have to put/ [03:37] silly job, interfering with my ubuntu stuff === Kyral [n=Linux@128.153.197.196] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:39] wb Kyral [03:39] Thanks [03:39] it seems that I broke Beagle somehow [03:40] and then I had to reboot which meant I had to recompile the NVidia Module [03:46] reboot == recompile modules? I don't follow [03:48] Kyral: couldn't you just /etc/init.d/gdm stop, rmmod nvidia && modprobe nvidia, then /etc/init.d/gdm start ? [03:49] hey alll [03:49] how is UBZ going? [03:49] zakame, nope [03:50] Okay, something is causing my CPU to spike violently [03:50] and I have no clue WTF it is [03:51] hi bmonty_laptop [03:51] Kyral: is this always, or just upon/after bootup/ [03:51] just now [03:51] and the System Monitor aint telling me whats doing it [03:51] hey LaserJock [03:52] even top [03:52] top says its okay [03:52] but performance suggests that the CPU is going NUTS [03:52] Gah why is Beagle doing this? [03:53] I saw its usage spike in the downward slope of the last spike === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.209.110] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:54] I never have gotten Beagle to work right. I think I had a lot of CPU spikes and such. I just ended up removing it [03:54] well, it may be that I removed like 200 MB worth of files in a partions that it was indexing ;P [03:54] that could be it :) [03:56] Kyral: yeah, maybe it's updatedb updating [03:56] Yah it has a lot of tasks (Checked the status) === Kyral holds on to something as another task hits [03:56] Here we go again! [03:59] hmmm, LP's login time is too quick [03:59] as in the timeout? [04:00] dang, gobby has 11 bugs in 3 days old or less [04:00] yep... I logged in a while ago to do some translations, then, when committing them, I get an auth error telling me I'm not logged in :( === koke [n=koke@66.103.220.203] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral wonders what more he should do to be able for Ubuntu Membership === _vlad [n=vladimir@65.200.10.195] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral stops holding on to a rail [04:04] task done ;P [04:06] I spoke too soon *gets smashed away by the flood of indexing* [04:07] gez, what the heck are you doing? Sound like your surfing or something? [04:08] Beagle is taking a load of CPU Power ;P [04:08] can't you change the niceness [04:08] no... === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:11] WTF Netsplit?! === xhaker [i=leet@luna.sublimesp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Firetech [n=Jocke@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@port161-157.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DapperDrake [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [i=crimsun@hacked.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:12] Was that just a NetSplit? [04:14] what was your first clue? :P === Unfrgiven [n=ankur@202.76.176.94] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:15] Its the first Split I've seen on Freenode === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] this is the Nth of N**N === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Akatemik [n=tpievila@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem [n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-34-221.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart [i=siretart@tauware.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === siretart [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nailbiter [i=foobar@c210-49-121-249.eburwd3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.247] has joined #ubuntu-motu === farruinn [n=nathan@cpe-69-201-11-248.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xhaker [i=leet@luna.sublimesp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-158-193.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === segfault [i=carlos@ubuntu/member/segfault] has joined #ubuntu-motu === leonel [n=leonel@dsl-201-133-204-58.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === moyogo [n=moyogo@119pc104.ucu-vb.uu.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kaloz [n=kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === beezly [n=beezly@2001:630:63:16:230:1bff:feb7:2528] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === NigelS [i=nigel@83.166.160.96] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mortas [n=kris@217.148.89.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Treenaks [n=martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh_away [n=sh@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-65-26-222-190.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-motu === daysleper [n=dayslepe@216-214-118.0501.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lifeless [n=robertc@dsl-215.16.240.220.rns02-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce [n=marce@2001:6f8:929:0:0:0:0:9] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xtat_ [n=xtat@gaius.rapidpacket.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tseng [n=tseng@brandonhale.us] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo_away [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === whiprush [n=jorge@64.62.190.212] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lool [n=lool@pig.zood.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:41] hi azeem === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mirno [n=mirspcm@office.spcmnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus [n=sz@p5089CF25.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty_laptop [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat [i=lathiat@ubuntu/member/lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat_ [i=lathiat@ubuntu/member/lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=Linux@hamlin-164-1697.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === magnon [n=co@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty_laptop [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === magnon [n=co@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mirno [n=mirspcm@82.238.62.63] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus [n=sz@p5089CF25.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-158-193.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce [n=marce@2001:6f8:929:0:0:0:0:9] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:38] oy oy oy [05:38] someone wnats to know if the MOTU bugfixing is as fast as the main boys [05:39] faster ;-) [05:39] I really don't know, how would you tell? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:40] no clue === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:47] i guess you could look at the fixes/total bugs ratio [05:51] Has anyone gotten Google Earth to work on Linux yet? === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.209.110] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.209.110] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:06] FireAlarm! Very nice [06:07] Kyral: ? [06:08] I assume the fire alarm when off in his dorm [06:11] ah, yea... that tends to happen once the drunks start rolling in [06:12] that's gotta be chilly [06:13] chilly? how? [06:13] we go to school in the same town (different schools though) and I had one at 3 AM last year. During winter :( [06:13] it's actually fairly warm out in MI at least === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:13] where you at farruinn [06:14] Potsdam, NY [06:14] ah [06:14] I live a bit north of Detroit, MI [06:14] and yea, it's a bit early, but some drunks could be rolling in now [06:15] those big red handles look mighty funny while drunk, hehe [06:16] well, I'm in Reno, NV and it's fairly chilly [06:16] I did my undergrad in Montana and it was fun to see all the people huddled out in the snow early in the morning [06:17] heh. we're a bit used to snow, to say the least [06:18] we had some Hawiians and they hardly ever had much of anything on so they usually just ran fast from building to building ;-) === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.209.110] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:23] has anybody made a dapper pbuilder recently? === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:23] Another one! This time PFD (Potsdam Fire Depo) came [06:23] LaserJock, I od [06:23] but I need shower + bed [06:24] can I ask a really quick question first? [06:24] LaserJock: I had ethiopians at my school in MI, had never seen snow before [06:24] er not ethiopians, kenyans [06:25] schweeb: yeah, I think we had some Texans like that ;-) [06:25] stupid alcohol, makes my brain slow [06:25] libreadline5: Depends: readline-common but it is not installed [06:25] cept it's snowed in Texas [06:25] LaserJock, nope, unless you wanna see me naked [06:27] Kyral: ^^ that's the error I am getting when I try to create a dapper pbuilder === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:28] LaserJock: do a man pbuilder, and see if there's an option to add extra packages [06:28] LaserJock: or you could find the file that pbuilder uses to determine the packages to install, and modify that manually (and file a bug) [06:28] not sure if it uses debootstrap or what [06:28] (I'd help, but I don't have debootstrap or pbuilder installed) === siretart_ [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:34] dang, didn't work [06:35] :) [06:36] alright, I gotta go but if I don't get it too work I will file a bug report [06:36] good night, LaserJock [06:36] cya tritium. I hope to have some more MOTUScience stuff this weekend [06:37] LaserJock, cool [06:37] LJ [06:37] gimme a sec to get dressed [06:37] but tomorrow I have to run the lasers so I don't know how much I can do [06:37] Kyral: ok [06:38] and what does MOTUScience do? [06:38] LaserJock: file a bug anyways [06:38] I'm sure you're not the only one who has the problem [06:38] well, I hope to take better care of science packages [06:38] I did too [06:38] schweeb: will do [06:38] remember, bugs aren't just for helping you, they're for helping everyone [06:39] :) [06:39] but I just renamed my Breezy-base.tgz to Dapper-base.tgz and upgraded it to Dapper [06:39] even confirming bugs is helpful [06:39] oh [06:39] LaserJock, I may be interested in joining your MOTU Team [06:39] heh [06:40] Kyral: you can use debootstrap --download-only iirc [06:40] schweeb, I already had it there and it was easier ;P [06:40] yea, it's easier at this point in devel, sure [06:40] :) [06:41] well, I am trying to make a dapper pbuilder from scratch just to do it [06:43] Kyral: if you are interested in the MOTUScience team go to https://launchpad.net/people/motuscience/ and join === Kyral srhsug [06:43] LJ: Tomorrow, tongiht I'm beat [06:43] and somehow getting lag like NUTS [06:43] Kyral: me too [06:43] good night everybody! === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@84.5.52.63] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:13] hello === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jimbob_ [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@84.5.52.63] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jimbob [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:04] morning motus :) === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === [Chameleon] [n=Paul@000f660c9c52.click-network.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vuntz [n=vuntz@fennas.vuntz.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@alabama.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@210.213.72.50] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:25] hi all === vuntz [n=vuntz@fennas.vuntz.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:28] hi vuntz === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vuntz [n=vuntz@fennas.vuntz.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c153063.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jtan325 [n=jtan325@c-67-183-143-91.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@210.1.87.84] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jimbob_ [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jimbob_ [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === [Chameleon] [n=Paul@000f660c9c52.click-network.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@vpn-imt21.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@210.1.87.84] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:13] hi all === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@vpn-imt4.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [n=chrys@dslb-084-056-110-225.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [i=dkaarsem@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:34] yay, my membership status should be all set up RSN === eruin [n=eruin@unaffiliated/eruin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.247] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] hello === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === markuman [n=supermar@p50925380.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sedak [n=fred@home.nenya.info] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:33] mornin' [01:35] hi Kyral [01:36] Okay, next CC meeting is at 1400 UTC. Which means....0900 EST? [01:36] Kyral: date --utc [01:37] EST is 5 hours behind UTC... [01:38] yah that would be right [01:38] I guess that solves the question as if I will go for Ubuntu Membership this time around === ryu [n=chris@p5487E847.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] I'll be effectively at class at that time ;P [01:49] Wait next Tuesday.....8 AM Chem Lab...I will be in class ;P [01:52] <\sh> moins [01:53] mions? [01:53] <\sh> Kyral: no....moins is a short form of "moin moin" and means "good morning" [01:53] ah [01:53] hi \sh [01:54] moins to you then :D [01:54] <\sh> but it's a wonderful day...friday, i have a cold, my throat is sored somehow === Kyral tosses \sh some green tea [01:55] <\sh> but good to know, that my body was fighting the cold until yesterday [01:55] UBZ winding down? [01:56] <\sh> looks like [01:56] <\sh> i was wondering how long it took to get ill...coming from germany with 20 degrees C to montreal with under 10 deg C [01:57] hmm, its 2 degrees C here === Kyral ponders heavy jacket or hoodie [01:58] <\sh> well..running around only with a shirt and all our smoking bofs here... [01:58] lol [01:59] This is one of the many reasons why I don't smoke ;P [01:59] <\sh> anyways...when I'm coming home..I have one week more to get rid of the cold [01:59] <\sh> but my headache is driving me crazy [02:00] Tea will be good for both I believe [02:01] <\sh> Kyral: do u know if they have roiboosh tea here? [02:01] roiboosh tea? Never heard of it. What is it? === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:02] <\sh> redbush tea :) [02:02] though it sounds familar [02:02] <\sh> well...i have to ask our ZA guys around here [02:02] You should be able to find it somewhere in Montreal [02:02] I mean its a huge city [02:02] "Its like New York City! Only Better!" - One of the locals I ran into a couple weeks ago [02:03] <\sh> ok breakfast === blueyed [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [n=lamont@66.103.220.244] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb_ [n=bradb@66.103.220.234] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] ehlo everyone.name === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487CCA7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [n=blackbir@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@66.103.220.203] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus [n=sz@p5089DD8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@66.103.220.194] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:11] wb ogra === hub [n=hub@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === magnon [n=co@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:16] hey, I need some help with https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/libflash/+bug/3829 [03:16] I'm pretty sure it has to be a naming policy on debian-policy [03:16] but I can't find it === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:22] wb dholbach [03:23] hey zakame [03:23] koke: hmm, if d-p ought to be strictly followed, that would have been libflashX, where X matches the SONAME [03:24] dholbach: I was able to upload my first (library) package for Ubuntu yesterday :) [03:26] wow [03:26] cool [03:27] zakame: it's libflash0c2 [03:28] koke: yep, just saw the LP page now :) iirc there was already a gplflash metapackage... [03:32] maybe it could work to just change the descriptions from GPL Flash to gplflash [03:37] koke: hmm, that's just the same, with only minor diff... not really viable unless you're a legalist :) === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:38] the only problem seems to be that people searches for gplflash [03:38] and get no results === GazerWork [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] koke: hmmm, you're right [03:41] koke: then again, I'd search for `flash' not `gplflash' 'coz I'm more concerned with getting a working flash implementation, from a user perspective :) === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === farruinn [n=nathan@cpe-69-201-11-248.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan|work [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:21] hi all [04:22] i got cegui_mk2 0.4.0 and ogre3d 1.0.5 built and uploaded to revu, would anyone possibly have some time to take a peek at them? === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:26] hmmm, how do I know if someone is looking at my package in REVU? [04:27] zakame: you don't, currently :) [04:28] ajmitch: ah, ok :) so how long does a package stay in REVU until its rejected or accepted? [04:29] zakame: undefined [04:31] hmm.. === Mez [n=Mez@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:33] lathiat: we start the zeroconf bof === magnon [n=co@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === magnon_ [n=co@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] hub: i just updated the ZeroCOnfSpec page [04:35] hub: take a look and pass around :) === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@84.254.11.113] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StrikeForce [n=marc@203-59-15-65.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rcliii [n=rcliii@cpe-65-26-158-102.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.247] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus [n=sz@p5089E5BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tim1 [n=Tim@dslb-084-058-203-216.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === the_aris [n=the_aris@tor/session/x-aaba0e973e856735] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:07] bye all === hunger [n=hunger@p54A62573.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eruin [n=eruin@unaffiliated/eruin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty_laptop [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:28] does lucas nussbaum happen to be around here? [06:29] anyone knows if he already has some public archive for his motu-tools package? === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger is trying to follow the debian maintainer guide... but can't find dh_make. Was that replaced? === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:47] hunger: apt-get install dh-make [06:48] slomo: Oh, stupid me. I assumed it to be part of debhelper. [06:49] slomo: Thanks! 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[10:13] schweeb: eh? There are tons of things [10:15] \sh: introdeveldocs is on revu, I don't know where it is actually located [10:15] <\sh> siretart: ok....doesn't matter === tim1 [n=Tim@dslb-084-058-203-216.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Cimmerian [n=crom@80.239.71.239] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MOSMarauder [i=TRANCE@port-83-236-28-49.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:03] Hi FOLKS [11:03] anyone here who knows about a THAI ubuntu version? === koke [n=koke@66.103.220.192] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:10] MOSMarauder: Thai is noted as th in locale, right? [11:10] MOSMarauder: if so, I doubt it, since Thai don't even have debian-installer translations [11:13] shit [11:14] thats exactly what i need [11:14] a Thai DVD install [11:14] or better THAI INstall DVD ;) [11:14] cuz most times in TH they have slow inet conns [11:15] MOSMarauder: good time to start a translation team :-) [11:15] what i need to translate ? [11:15] *G* [11:15] Heya [11:18] MOSMarauder: I don't know if ubuntu has special translation teams. I work in debian-installer translation team on Debian side [11:19] k [11:19] rosetta's a good place to start, MOSMarauder [11:20] been ther .. translated there some things -> german ;) [11:20] e [11:22] crimsun: I just skimmed rosetta packages, it seems they don't cover d-i, do they? [11:23] minghua: not in a position to answer, sorry. Ping Kamion or pitti. [11:23] (my hunch is that they don't cover d-i) [11:23] crimsun: okay, it's not an important question anyway, I'd better not bother them :-) [11:24] especially that I'm not planning to work for rosetta === Kyral pokes LaserJock [11:38] Kyral: hola [11:38] Hey Boss, I think I found a good proggy for MOTU Science [11:39] yeah, what is it? [11:39] http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1123 === sanpera [n=sanpera@157.182.195.191] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:40] Even better they are actually looking for people to make debpacks for them [11:41] Kyral: yeah, I saw that [11:41] looks promising [11:41] Shall we contact them and offer to take care of Ubuntu/Debian? [11:43] Kyral: if you want to. I think it looks pretty good, especially if they are looking for .deb maintainers [11:43] Cool [11:43] And I happen to have Sid, Sarge, Breezy, and Dapper PBuilders ;P [11:44] yeah, I got Breezy and Dapper squared away today === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:47] I'll look to see how easy of a build it is [11:49] Kyral: hehe I need a sid pbuild right now but it's broken [11:49] Whee! Looks like AutoConf! dh_make should have no problem [11:50] Mez I just made a Sarge PBuilder, copied the base.tgz, and upgraded it using Sid apt lines [11:50] Kyral: it's just that the sid wont build thats all [11:50] ah [11:51] LaserJock, you wanna email them? [11:51] You are the team leader after all [11:52] ok, I will. also, check out our wiki page [11:52] Yah I have to add myself [11:53] Kyral: been there, done that ;-) [11:53] eh? [11:54] <\sh> MOTUs / MOTUs wanna be LISTEN UP === Kyral looks up [11:54] Yessir? [11:55] <\sh> We will schedule a special UBZ MOTU meeting tomorrow (Canadian time). Right now, we don't know the time but stay alarmed....a lot things have to be discussed, ressources assigned etc. === bhuvan [n=ubuntu@59.92.33.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:55] that sounds pretty dire [11:55] "alarmed?" === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o bhuvan] by ChanServ [11:55] Uhoh [11:55] Umm, LJ, tell me the time, I gotta go meet people for dinner, okay? [11:56] Or even better, someone send an email out over the Devel list [11:56] Kyral: ok, and I will email the FlowDesigner people [11:56] kk ;P [11:58] \sh: I'll try & be awake then :) [11:58] <\sh> if anyone can update the topic, please do with the "pre" announcement of the meeting...somehow I can't do it [11:58] I don't have chanserv access for this channel, but others do [11:59] <\sh> ok...will deal later [11:59] ajmitch: were you going to write up the minutes from the last meeting? [11:59] <\sh> with it