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penguinbratSGershon: is it working?12:00
ayyanarchsed is a strange being12:00
topylijohnsbil: how about #debian? or did they kick you? :)12:00
andi5johnsbil: so why do not you start by asking this question in #debian ... just wondering :)12:00
SGershonpenguinbrat: Yes!12:00
SGershonpenguinbrat: and No.12:00
penguinbratSGershon: sweet - congratz =)12:00
tj101can someone help with madwifi compliled on a custom kernel?12:00
penguinbratSGershon: doh... to soon =P what happened, didnt happen?12:00
andi5ayyanarch: it is not too complicated (if you avoid the buffer features)12:00
geirbAnnyone have a sugestion for an alternative program for connecting to the msn nettwork. I saw amsn in google. Is it anny good ?12:01
FlannelKingHey guys, Booting works fine, until I get to EVMS, and then I get a 'buffer io error on device dm-7'... help?12:01
andi5geirb: gaim?12:01
tj101geirb: have you tried gaim?12:01
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thoreauputicgeirb:  gaim does msn12:01
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SGershonpenguinbrat: I have two screens, ad the mouse can walk across them like normal. Each screen has its own resolution and I even can set different pannels in each one. Real beauty. BUT:12:01
thoreauputicgeirb: and it's installed by default in Ubuntu12:02
test34topyli, I'll let you know if I find something12:02
SGershonpenguinbrat: Applications open in one screen can not be dragged to the other screen.12:02
K_DallasEvening! Last time i used ubuntu on the ubuntuguide page there was the procedure to install mplayer. now that there is a new version of ubuntu, is that procedure is still applicable? thanks12:02
andi5ayyanarch: well, i did not see your message, please.... start a line with the name of the person you are talking to, most irc programs allow this (simply enter first characters, then hit TAB for completion)12:02
thoreauputicK_Dallas: no12:02
ompaul!ubuntuguide12:02
uboturumour has it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.12:02
penguinbratSGershon: I think you enable the xinerama extension to get that working...12:02
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SGershonpenguinbrat: Each application can be moved only inside the screen it was created.12:02
K_Dallasompaul, i know it is out of date, that is why i asked ;)12:03
thoreauputicK_Dallas: you can install mplayer from the universe repository12:03
thoreauputicoops12:03
ompaulK_Dallas, have a look at the wiki12:03
SGershonxinerama... Actually, I did fglrxconfig.12:03
thoreauputicK_Dallas: sorry multiverse12:03
bimberiubotu tell K_Dallas about mplayer12:03
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K_Dallasthanks. i will look into it12:03
ayyanarchandi5, ok12:03
SGershonpenguinbrat: xinerama... Actually, I did fglrxconfig.12:03
K_Dallasthanks bimberi12:03
ompaulK_Dallas, have fun12:03
geirbwill check it out12:03
bimberiK_Dallas: np :)12:03
andi5ayyanarch: thank you :) --- if you have sed questions, feel free to ask :)12:03
topyliSGershon: is that a restriction in xinerama or in gnome?12:03
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ayyanarchandi5, is what you're sending me private, or does it just highlist things with your name in it?12:03
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nuckwhat's the best video player to view porn?12:04
FlannelKingit just highlights12:04
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penguinbratSGershon: yeah, thats typical - its suppose to work like that, try adding the line "Option    "Xinerama" "on"" to the server layout section in the xorg.conf - like the one here... http://www.nozell.com/marc/data/xorg.conf-dual-head-xinerama12:04
bluebloodhumm, how to unrar in linux?12:04
andi5ayyanarch: it highlights it... private is started with slash query name12:04
CaNsAok why doesnt my usb modem want to work?12:04
ompaulayyanarch, this is your name in public you see it with a different colour12:04
nucksorry just trolling again just happy i fixed some bugs :-)12:04
topyliblueblood: install the "unrar" package12:04
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FlannelKingAnyone able to help?12:05
topyliblueblood: then use the "unrar" command :)12:05
andi5CaNsA: maybe it is part of a labor union?12:05
CaNsAlmfao12:05
CaNsAprolly12:05
bluebloodhmm, topyli, unrar-free is all I can choose from12:05
K_DallasFlannelKing, i can help in many ways, have you got a borken leg? can fix that too12:05
SGershonpenguinbrat, topyli: Thnks, will try that.12:05
CaNsAi would guess that i have to install summin to do with pppoe12:05
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topyliblueblood: you'll have to enable some more non-free repositories like multiverse12:06
test34topyli, There it is: System - Preferences - File management - Icon view defaults12:06
auraxhello, i got a dumb question, in nano editor when i choose replace and want the replace action to be case sensitive it shows M-C for case sensitive what does that mean ?12:06
auraxreplace function is ctrl-\12:06
LjLalt-c if i'm not mistaken12:06
FlannelKingK_Dallas, yeah, and if I dont have one, you can help with taht too, eh?  Nah, I know the drill, I already asked.  EVMS (Enterprise Volumen Management Server) is giving me errors.  But, it still boots up (or at least, the whole computer does, I dont know what EVMS is, so I dont know if its actually running or not) after displaying the error a bunch12:06
andi5aurax: most probably simply meta-c , so alt-c12:07
K_Dallasnow, that i am unable to help you with ;)12:07
topylitest34: i'll be damned :)12:07
nuckwhere do you go to look for ubuntu applications? is it safe to install debian-based packages?12:07
topylitest34: how could the gnome people leave that in the user's view to confuse then =)12:07
LjLnuck: no, it's not12:07
propagandhithoreauputic: on this site http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78271.html people resolved the same problem you're having by upgrading their router firmware12:07
LjLnuck: you go to the ubuntu repositories for ubuntu apps :)12:08
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thoreauputicpropagandhi: erm - I think you have the wrong nick12:08
LjLnuck: though you might have some luck with some debian packages, but i wouldn't try12:08
test34topyli, yeah I wouldnt think it would be that easy;)12:08
auraxaight andi512:08
auraxfound it12:08
johnsbilandi5: I just find some wery helpfull friends here 6 hours ago helping me with some problems with kubuntu. The Debianlist doesend always giv me an answer. Well time to go to bed here in Norway. I will start over again tomorrow... i think. Zzzzzzzz...12:08
auraxthx12:08
nuckok i wouldnt try one time crash is enough for me12:08
thoreauputicpropagandhi: I haven't a clue what you are talking about12:08
nuckLjL12:09
andi5johnsbil: yeah, same here (baltic coast) :)12:09
topylitest34: what happened to "giving reasonable defaults" and "hiding the confusing stuff in gconf-editor"? ;-)12:09
propagandhithoreauputic: did u catch that12:09
TWanyone is trying dapper version of ubuntu?12:10
sethHow do I change the font that IRSSI uses?12:10
thoreauputicpropagandhi: I don't have any such problem - you have the wrong person12:10
topyliTW: reasonable people are not. developers are, on dedicated development machines12:10
LjLnuck: ?12:10
propagandhithoreauputic: yes you're right, sorry12:10
thoreauputicOK - I was puzzled for a while there :)12:11
andi5thoreauputic: you deny having such a problem? well, will take my voodoo puppy then :P12:11
bimberilol andi512:11
TWand anyone use kbluetooth?12:11
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thoreauputicbimberi: do you ever hang out in #kubuntu ?12:11
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hyakuheiAnyone know why when my browsers try to connect to a website, during the handshaking a "TCP Window Update" is generated and then dns for the site resolves to 1.0.0.0 and the connection fails?12:12
propagandhii meant hyakuhei12:12
andi5well, have a nice day to all the western guys out there :)12:12
propagandhihyakuhei on this site http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78271.html people resolved the same problem you're having by upgrading their router firmware12:12
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bimberithoreauputic: no, i don't use it much, should i?12:12
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bimberioops, mixed subjects there12:12
steigweisubuntu on laptops: i hav just installed ubuntu on a thinkpad 600 and want to make it slim now! how to act?12:12
hyakuheithanks propagandhi12:13
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thoreauputicbimberi: not necessarily - I was just asking for another reason ( re ops )12:13
steigweisgnome is too heavy and fluxbox is also slow12:13
sethsteigweis: If fluxbox is slow, there are some problems.12:13
gverigCan somebody recommend a good download manager for gnome? I primarily need FTP client with reconnect support and what not12:13
propagandhihyakuhei: its worth a try at least12:13
thoreauputicsteigweis: fluxbox slow? Weird....12:13
bimberithoreauputic: ah12:13
SGershonpenguinbrat, topyli: xinerama made my screens go berzerk12:14
thoreauputicbimberi: may I /msg you ?12:14
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topylisteigweis: you don't get much lighter than fluxbox. there's twm of course12:14
bimberithoreauputic: sure :)12:14
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SGershonpenguinbrat, topyli: So I'll just live it this way for now.12:14
steigweisis it possible to speed up the bootprocess?12:14
FlannelKinganyone know what device dm-7 is?12:14
topyliSGershon: :(12:14
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hyakuheisteigweis: are you making fluxbox do transparencies without having good graphic driver support? This can load up the CPU a fair bit12:15
steigweisis it possible that ubuntu first loads gnome even if i am willing to work with fluxbox?12:15
penguinbratSGershon: how do you mean berzerk?12:15
propagandhisteigweis: yes, you can remove certain processes from the process, but its not recommended if you dont know whats doing what12:15
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jazzcrazedhi all12:15
Stormx2eek. How do i get vlc to play divx?12:15
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topylisteigweis: what sort of laptop is that anyway? processor speed? ram?12:15
penguinbratjazzcrazed: welcome12:15
steigweishyakuhei: ok12:15
jazzcrazedi'm following a howto in the ubuntu wiki on setting up lamp12:15
jazzcrazedand it's suggesting i add my user and group to apache conf12:16
jazzcrazedhow do i kno wut group i'm in?12:16
steigweistopyli: its a ibm thinkpad 600E with 300 mhz and 192 mb ram12:16
darkarchonsteigweis, try icewm12:16
darkarchonits not that slow.12:16
Stormx2jazzcrazed: Look for users & groups12:16
steigweisi wonder wha is the right os configuration to get it fast12:16
darkarchonafaik12:16
hyakuheiopenbox is nice12:16
jazzcrazedstormx2: i'm using the non-gui server install of ubuntu12:16
darkarchonhyakuhei, openbox is quite the same als fluxbox12:16
Stormx2System > Administration > Users & Groups12:16
topylisteigweis: it's a fast machine. fluxbox should fly. i think you're using applications that eat all your ram12:16
penguinbratjazzcrazed: from the cmd line you can type "id" to get that...12:16
SGershonpenguinbrat: It was totaly out of "focus". Lines moving fast from side to side, I coud see things opening nd closing, but notlear at all, and repeatedly. JUST LIKE when you set the resolution to a value too big for a specific screen.12:16
jazzcrazedstormx2: and beyond that, i'm ssh'ing12:16
jazzcrazedpenguin: thanks!12:16
hyakuheionly in appearence darkarchon12:16
Stormx2jazzcrazed: Ack, uhh12:16
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darkarchonhyakuhei, its not that different anyway.12:17
Avenhey12:17
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steigweistopyli: openoffice would be such an app i guess!?12:17
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Avenhow do I set the duration of the /tmp folder when I download stuff?12:17
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topylisteigweis: definitely. use abiword and gnumeric12:17
jazzcrazedthat did it...thx penguin and storm for ur help12:17
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topylisteigweis: openoffice.org by itself will bring this laptop to its knees12:18
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SGershonpenguinbrat: But I have other and harder questions, don't worry.12:18
kentdoes any one know if the tulip-driver for a new asrocks dual-sata2 works with breezy? it seems it needs a new patch when i google'ed for it :(12:18
Avenhow do I set the duration time of the /tmp folder when I download stuff?12:18
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SGershonWhen I try to install MPlayer, it tells me: Application 'mplayer' not available: The application can not be found in your archive. This usually means that it is not available for your hardware plattform.12:19
antuanethola...?12:19
SGershonWhy?12:19
penguinbratSGershon: ohhh - thats the virtual rez... you can hit CTRL+ALT+[-/+]  to change rezes, what is going on is that X is setting the rez to the first one in your modes section, and then actually using the ones it can get working. Try setting a different mode for the first one, and or looking at /var/log/X.0.log to see which went bad...12:19
penguinbratSGershon: lol12:19
SGershonpenguinbrat: Wow! Thanks!12:19
SGershonpenguinbrat: I'll try it now!12:19
antuanetno tengo ni idea de cmo va esto..:(12:19
FlannelKinganyone know anything about EVMS?12:19
penguinbratSGershon: check the repositories you have - I have mplayer isntalled, and it was in the list ;-)12:20
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SGershonantuanet: hablamos espanol, but you'll be better served if you speak english12:20
CaNsAi have a shortcut in my applications panel, how can i delete it?12:20
antuanetok12:20
geirbWhen i do mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows I only get a read-only file system. Is it posible to mount a NTFS filesystem as read/write?12:21
CaNsAand the .desktop file in the /usr/share/applications folder12:21
eedgeanyone successfully managed to get skype running through a proxy.12:21
eedge?12:21
FlannelKingantuanet, #ubuntu-es12:21
antuanetsorry?12:22
Avenhow do I set the duration time of the /tmp folder when I download stuff?12:22
watnouenglish please12:22
theineAven, duration time?12:22
CaNsAi have a shortcut in my applications panel, how can i delete it along with the .desktop file in the /usr/share/applications folder12:22
Aventhe time that it a file will stay in there12:22
Avencause it deletes itself very quick12:23
theineAven, really? how quick?12:23
antuanetjeje I'm sorry but my english is as bad as my ubuntu...12:23
watnououch12:23
Aven5 seconds12:23
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puffHm, Mondo Rescue looks really interesting.12:23
robertj^antuanet: /join #ubuntu-es12:23
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joe_bAven: why not save the file somewhere else? :)12:23
theineAven, are you sure it doesn't simply delete itself when the download is finished?12:23
antuanetmmm,.,,thanks :)12:24
SGershonpenguinbrat: Yes, it shows in the list, but it is grayed12:24
Aventhat's what it does, thehil12:24
sethHow do I change the font that IRSSI uses?12:24
CaNsAthoreauputic dude12:24
Avenjoe_b: all .tar files go in /tmp when they're done12:24
CaNsAi have a shortcut in my applications panel, how can i delete it along with the .desktop file in the /usr/share/applications folder12:24
robertj^:)12:24
joe_bwhat you downloading with?12:24
eedgeanyone successfully managed to get skype running through a proxy?12:24
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Avenfirefox12:24
theineAven, what? all .tar files go in /tmp? they usually end up on my desktop if i download them with firefox12:24
Aventhehil: not with mine :\12:25
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estratacan anyone help me with sound for a via8235 using an alsa driver?12:25
AvenI think it also deletes itself automaticlly12:25
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theineAven, i'm sure they go somewhere other than /tmp when the download is finished...12:25
SGershonpenguinbrat: mplayer shows in the list, but it is grayed12:25
Avenhm, okies12:25
fluvvellI have an observation re: ubuntu, nobody has included a real nice backup utility12:26
joe_bAven: mine goto the desktop (just checked :)12:26
theineAven, did you try to specify the location where firefox should save you file?12:26
penguinbratSGershon: hmm, what arch are you on?12:26
fluvvellbut win doesn't have much of use either12:26
theineAven, ...in the download dialog12:26
SGershon!arch12:26
ubotuSGershon: I don't know, could you explain it?12:26
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Aventhehil: It says "open with" and the default is "Archieve manager"12:26
fluvvellfor those of us who have huge amounts of files, more than can fit on a DVD, it means needing an incremental backup12:26
theineAven, ah...12:27
SGershon!tell SGershon about arch12:27
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theineAven, you don't want "open with" but "save as file"12:27
Aven"save to disk" is that what I would have to click on?12:27
theineAven, mark that12:27
fluvvellI've come to grips with tar, but found funny things happen with the newer function.12:27
AvenAh12:27
theineAven, right, "save on disk"12:27
SGershonpenguinbrat: what do you mean by arch?12:27
estratacan anyone help me get sound to work with hoary 5.0412:27
Avenalright, thanks12:27
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theineAven, you're welcome12:27
penguinbratSGershon: AMD64, intel, PPC (Mac), etc...12:28
eedgeanyone here successfully managed to get skype running through a proxy?12:28
fluvvellI'm keen to chat with any CLI gurus who know what I mean.  I also found that it seems like the find -name program has the same bug with -newer12:28
SGershonOh, arch = Architecture. Intel M12:28
eedgeestrata, what exactly do you mean? What sound file are you trying to run and with what?12:28
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fluvvellso my issue is:  Why does find -anewer not really find files newer than the file you point to?12:28
citrosackhey  do i need a serial for ubuntu?12:28
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SGershonpenguinbrat: Oh, arch = Architecture. Intel M.12:29
SGershonpenguinbrat: Uname -a ==> Linux GERSHON 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux12:29
penguinbratSGershon: hmm, can you right click on it - and select properties?12:29
mattpj1im having internet problems with my DSL its really slow and i think its cuz of ubuntu i already called my isp and they said everything is fine12:29
SGershonon it who?12:29
estrataeedge, well no sound works, I've tryed rhym box and xmms, i've tryed installing the corrrect alsa driver, and unmutting the alsamixer channels, and getting the correct linux header files. I don't know what else to try12:29
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theinefluvvell, `find -anewer' seems to work fine for me12:30
mattpj1anyone ???12:30
fluvvelltheine, can you paste the syntax you used?12:30
mattpj1im having internet problems with my DSL its really slow and i think its cuz of ubuntu i already called my isp and they said everything is fine plus i never had these problems on any other distros12:30
penguinbratmattpj1: if the connection is up (IE with your modem), it wouldnt be ubuntu as far as I know - unless the ISP is doing something funky with some drivers on windoze...12:30
theinefluvvell, find -anewer <file>12:31
PHZN`awayI think my network card isn't working on my Ubuntu Server configuration for some reason.12:31
SGershonpenguinbrat: on the "Add Appllications" it is grayed. And theres no menu on rihgt-click.12:31
mattpj1penguinbrat im not using windows plus my modem has all the info in it all i do is start the comp up12:31
theinefluvvell, that listed recursively all the files in the current directory that were newer than <file>12:31
FlannelKingno one knows anything about EVMS?12:31
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mattpj1but its olny been slow since i got ubuntu12:32
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penguinbratSGershon: try using the "synaptic package manager" thats the one I've been using...12:32
SGershonpenguinbrat: on "Synaptics", wait...12:32
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mshadetheine: what were you expecting?12:32
estrataeedge, do you think you could help if i pm you my lsmod | grep snd and lspci | grep -i audio command results12:32
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mshadetheine: sorry, misunderstood12:33
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mshade:)12:33
theinemshade, exactly that :)12:33
PHZN`awayCan someone help me out with my network problems?12:33
alabatrosguys i have a big problem, i tried to install my fglrx drivers as described in BinaryDriverHowto/ATI but now when i boot i get " the X server is now disabled, restart gdm when its configured correctly ", and i find myself in console mode, how do i get out of this please12:33
PHZN`awayI just did a clean install of Ubuntu Server, and I can't make any network connections.12:34
SGershonpenguinbrat: uname -m says my machine is an i686, but my kernel is 2.6.12.9.386. Wich mplayer I should try to install?12:34
penguinbratmattpj1: what I meant with windoze, is they may be using compresion or something, but in any event what have you done to test the connection that lead you to think it is slower under linux - my experience is that it is usually faster under linux.. heh12:34
mshadealabatros: run sudo fglrxconfig12:34
alabatrosmshade: ok im doing it quick to see12:34
bur[n] eranyone know wtf /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server is?  it's taking up 500 megs of RAM for me :\12:34
penguinbratSGershon: 686 should work fine, go ahead and upgrade to the 686 kernel to why you are at it ;-) just install the packages and reboot =)12:34
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eedgeestrata, tried optons > preferences > output plugin > esound? I had problems with alsa... as for your results, there going to mean about as much to me as they do to you :)12:35
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dbugI've got a strange problem: I want to compile psybnc with ssl support. so I did "apt-get install openssl libssl-dev" but make gives me the error 'SSL-Support: Yes, but no openssl binary found in "/usr/bin/"' even though the binary is definitely in there12:35
theinebur[n] er, how do you actually know that it takes 500 megs?12:35
mattpj1penguinbrat its not slower under linux its faster but ubuntu since i got that its been slower12:35
dbugwhat am I doing wrong here?12:35
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mattpj1i done speed tests called my isp and with using other distros its been faster then this distro12:35
alabatrosmshade: ohhh man thxxxxx it works12:35
bur[n] ertheine: gnome-system-monitor tells me so12:35
estrataeedge, no luck with esound either12:35
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lsuactiafneranyone know the command (or if its possible) to compile a binary for windows using mingw but on a linux system?12:36
PHZN`awayI just did a clean install of Ubuntu Server, and I can't make any network connections, I'm not even sure if my network card is running, can someone help me out here?12:36
theinebur[n] er, I'v never used that, but it tells me that all my terminals use 6 megs, which i find hard to believe...12:36
PHZN`awaylsuactiafner, you talking about compiling it to a .EXE?12:36
penguinbratmattpj1: ahhh, i see... The only thing I can think of is that it would be in the kernel, either with a wrong (but compatible) module for the NIC or some kind of setting... Maybe DNS settings?12:36
SGershonpenguinbrat: How are called the packages for kernel i686?12:36
lsuactiafnerdbug : run which ssh12:37
theinebur[n] er, try "top" in a terminal and see where gam_server shows up there?12:37
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lsuactiafnerPHZN`away : yeh12:37
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action09hi12:37
holycowhttp://gobolinux.org/index.php?lang=en_US&page=doc/articles/clueless  <-- interesting12:37
lsuactiafnerPHZN`away : run ifconfig -a12:37
SGershonpenguinbrat: How many time you're in the linx world?12:37
penguinbratSGershon: it just means those apps will use machine code that only the 686 has...12:37
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dbuglsuactiafner: gives me /usr/bin/ssh12:37
lsuactiafnerbur[n] er : ps auxww | grep -i gam12:37
vargWhats wrong if i cant view xpm-files?12:37
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PHZN`awaylsuactiafner, thanks.12:37
PHZN`awayNot sure about your problem though.12:38
PHZN`awayCheck out mingw.org12:38
Stormx2Does anyone know about multisync?12:38
penguinbratSGershon: linx world?12:38
PHZN`awayhttp://www.mingw.org/12:38
lsuactiafnersuppose reading is the way to figure it out12:38
eedgeestrata, I don't know what to suggest then, sorry.12:38
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PHZN`awayYeah, it usually helps.12:38
SGershonpenguinbrat: Using/Leaning the linux environment...12:38
eedgeanyone here successfully managed to get skype running through a proxy?12:38
SGershonpenguinbrat: Because you know it very well.12:39
LjLis there a single, quick command to purge all the packages that were removed?12:39
penguinbratSGershon: I started with linux, when Slackware was the only distro I think - when the 1.2.13 kernel was the latest and greatest kernel - around 10-15 yrs ago...12:39
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SGershonpenguinbrat: 10-15 years ago!12:40
SGershonWow!12:40
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action09is there a smp boot install option available on Breezy please ?12:40
bur[n] erlsuactiafner: what's that do for me?12:40
warrengshould the default install of ubuntu's gimp be able to open adobe .psd's?12:40
penguinbratSGershon: yeah - you think your having problems, the big thing then was just getting PPP to work over your modem... lol12:40
alabatrosi was 4yo 15 yrs ago12:40
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bur[n] ertheine: top shows 492 megs virtual and 228 megs reserved12:41
SGershonpenguinbrat: Well, now I feel better about the 3 weeks struggling to get my NIC to work.12:41
geirbwhat do I need to install to play mp3s? Is there an apt-get ?12:41
bur[n] erwarreng: not with layer support12:41
penguinbratSGershon: lol12:41
warrengbur[n] er: is that something that can be added?12:41
bur[n] erwarreng: no... gimp uses .xcf file format12:41
Stormx2Yeah baby! I just syncronised my Orange SPV e200 with ubuntu!!12:41
penguinbratgeirb: xmms will play the fine =)12:41
alabatros!tell geirb about mp312:42
geirbpenguinbrat, It doesn't12:42
FlannelKingAnyone know anything about EVMS? or device dm-7?12:42
Stormx2geirb: use beep-media-player12:42
Stormx2geirb: Thats a nicer version of XMMS12:42
bur[n] erf it, i'm just gonna kill gam and see what happens ;)12:42
penguinbratgeirb: do a search for xmms on the symantic pack man - and look for plugins... I installed a hand full before playing with it...12:42
warrengbur[n] er: is there anyway to convert? i have a bunch of .psd's that i need to see what they contain... even if there's no layers12:42
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SGershonpenguinbrat: You know, about 6-7 years ago I was in the unversity,and got bitten by the linux bug, so we made a Nerdy Linux Party, and got friends to install Debian, and i used Linux for quite a while. But then suddenly I just got tired and slowly stopped using it. Now I'm trying to learn again.12:43
bur[n] erwarreng: u can open them with gimp I think... otherwise try "gthumb" and then resave it as a .png or .jpg or .xcf12:43
penguinbratwarreng: gimp can open psd's, the layers just get all screwed up... or the effects do - one of them...12:43
SGershonpenguinbrat: But I was no guru back then either. I knew only the basic commands.12:43
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eedge!tell me about mp312:44
eedge!tell me about wma12:44
warrenghrm.... maybe these pdf's are screwed up then? cause they're not opening in either gimp or gthumb12:44
PHZN`awaySo, apparently my machine's NIC is up, but not working for some reason.12:44
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penguinbratSGershon: there is alot to linux, you can do pretty much anything you want with her it just takes patients, googling and alot of reading ;-)12:44
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lsuactiafnereedge : restricted ..12:44
SGershonpenguinbrat: And a big dose of IRC as well! Anyway... where/what are the packages that updates my 386 kernel to i686?12:45
eedgenoted :)12:45
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penguinbratwarreng: pdf or psd? use xpdf or something to view the pdf's....12:45
warrengpsd12:45
cevizoglupenguinbrat, really?  me and several patients from the mental hospital tried to make linux into a cloud but it didn't work12:45
warrengmaybe i don't have some lib installed?12:45
PHZN`awayMy switch is showing an something as active on plug 3 (the one my Ubuntu machine is on), but Ubuntu isn't making any connections out for some reason.12:45
PHZN`awayAnyone know why?12:45
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PHZN`awaySomeone should publish a comprehensive encyclopedia on Linux12:46
penguinbratcevizoglu: lol - well your first problem was that you where trying to take something from cyber space and bring it into reality - can be tough sometimes ;-)12:46
fluvvelldarn it, who was I chatting with?12:46
PHZN`awayYou could seriously make a 100 volume set on it.12:46
fluvvelllost all my history12:46
annexPHZN`away: linuxopedia?12:47
lsuactiafnerPHZN`away : ubuntu wiki and gentoo help is enough12:47
cevizogluPHZN`away, but in the meantim, checkout print.google.com or the linux documentation project  :)12:47
penguinbratSGershon: do a search for 686, and install linux-image-2.6.12.... and the restricted modules for it...12:47
PHZN`awayI know there's online documentation and stuff, but imagine an annual linux encyclopedia.12:47
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jamesthey all12:48
jamestwhatsup12:48
amonkeywhat can i use to play qualcomm purevoice (qcp) format audio?12:48
cevizogluPHZN`away, like the tree-killing kind?12:48
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estratacan anyone help me get sound in hoary with a via 82xx sound card?12:48
jamestestrata , depends...12:48
penguinbratjamest: hey there12:48
jamestyou could have a lot of stuff up12:48
estratajamest on what12:48
PHZN`awaycevizoglu, exactly.12:48
jamesti would first test out the alsa settings...sometimes there is a weird thing checked off in the volume control12:48
jamesthang on let me see what its called12:49
estratain alsamixer?12:49
fluvvelltheine, was I just talking to you?12:49
jamestyes12:49
jamestare you a gnomie or a kde person12:50
SGershonpenguinbrat: a questoin: After a big fight, My eth0 is now working (It still an unknown device tough). If I change the kernel version, I'll probably loose the driver configuratoin and risc being un-networkable again, right?12:50
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SGershonpenguinbrat: I'm afraid of ruining it.12:50
jamestestrata should be on the aux line12:50
warrenganybody here speak french? :)12:50
jamestoui12:50
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jamestno jk12:50
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budluvacan someone help me get x going again? i had a problem last night where x crashed, and for some reason its not spitting out errors, no EE's in /var/log/Xorg.log.0 or anything, i dont know why its crashing....more info here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/400912:50
estratajamest, i'm using gmone12:50
Kyralwarreng, #ubuntu-fr12:50
zblachhi12:50
fluvvelltheine, sorry I got disconnected - I was expounding how find -anewer didn't, and asked if you could try find -anewer <file> -ls12:50
zblachhow can I use a gmail account for some online space?12:50
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jamestdoes anyone know if there is a "testing" branch of ubuntu?12:51
penguinbratSGershon: no, the settings wont change - they are in a txt file somewhere in /etc... the configs really dont care what kernel is working as long as the driver is there...12:51
Kyraljamest, the closest thing to testing is Dapper ;P12:51
jamesti'm a fbsd devo and thought i might offer some stuff12:51
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budluvaJamesDotCom dapper12:51
jamestwhat are the debs?12:51
estrataJamest, i used alsamixer to switch to aux and the volume is all the way up.. no sound ;(12:51
lsuactiafnerbudluva : might be a bad idea but try cd /tmp && rm -rf *  <--- AND BE SO FSCKING SURE YOU ARE IN /tmp !!!!!! !!!! run pwd before you run that command12:51
jamestestrata , no there should be something that blocks the line in12:51
budluvajamest rename all of breezy to dapper and apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade12:52
ciancihi, i am a little confused about repositories, could someone explain that to me?12:52
jamestbudluva thats what i was referring do...thanks12:52
SGershonpenguinbrat: Ok, and I'll have the two options in GRUB, or i686 will overwrite the 386?12:52
Kyralcianci, PMSG12:52
PHZN`awayCan someone help me out a little here?  My switch is showing an something as active on plug 3 (the one my Ubuntu machine is on), but Ubuntu isn't making any connections out for some reason.12:52
ciancipmsg?12:52
doudou4drthi i am new to ubuntu..i have a problem with the bootup..it's taking too long to configure the network interfaces...any ideas?12:52
estratajamest, should i lock or unlock line in, it's unlocked now12:52
penguinbratSGershon: im pretty sure it zaps the 386 kernels, out of the grub menu anyhow...12:52
lsuactiafnerPHZN`away : ifconfig shows your device is up with an ip?12:52
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stephenDMJust recently installed Breezy on Toshiba L25 laptop -- doesn't recognize battery -- are there additional power management packages to install?12:53
PHZN`awayLemme check real quick12:53
Kyralcianci, its too busy in here, Private MSG12:53
lsuactiafnerPHZN`away : then run route.. route add default gw 192.168.0.1 eth0 something like that might help12:53
penguinbratdoudou4drt: what is your network setup like?12:53
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zblachanyone here use gmail as some online space?12:53
lsuactiafnerzblach : sorta..12:54
lsuactiafnerzblach : got like 100mb used12:54
zblachlsuactiafner, how'd you set it up?12:54
FlannelKingAnyone know anything about EVMS? or device dm-7?12:54
estrataexit12:54
doudou4drti got a wifi and a nic card installed...i am using the wifi and disabled the NIC card12:54
lsuactiafnerzblach : i just email myself things..12:54
lsuactiafnernothing special12:54
estratanetwork interface card card12:54
PHZN`awaylsuactiafner, it's not showing an IP in ifconfig12:55
pieGoodmorning everybody, can anybody explane me how I make a 2e harddisk work? The system keeps telling me "that I have no rights..12:55
sorush20why can't I upgrade to the new version of firefox and thunderbird with the ubuntu?12:55
puffzblach:  I remember hearing about some thing called googledrive, probably windows thing tho.  Might be someting like that for linux.12:55
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lsuactiafnerPHZN`away : ifconfig eth0 up 192.168.0.212:55
penguinbratdoudou4drt: its been a while since I messed with wifi, is it dhcp do you know? have you noticed the problem in windoze - note that windoze will config the net in the background...12:55
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lsuactiafnerroute add default gw 192.168.0.1 eth0     assuming eth0 is your device12:56
lsuactiafnerand your gateway is 192.168.0.112:56
pieHelp!12:56
PHZN`awayI want the machine's IP to be 192.168.1.10112:56
pieanybody...?12:56
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doudou4drti had not problems with windoze..i am using dhcp with the wifi12:56
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penguinbratpie: stupid question but what is a "2e" hard drive?12:57
doudou4drtshould i switch to static?12:57
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fluvvellpie,  make a 2e harddisk - exactly what is a 2e ?12:57
lsuactiafnerwell change the ips appropriatly12:57
budluvais there anyway to eject my dvd drive via console? eject button isnt working12:57
topylidoudou4drt: dhcp seems to be dodgy on some networks on breezy. doesn't work on my university net, but works just fine at home12:57
PHZN`awayAlright, thanks12:57
piepenguinbrat: the 1e is to little, so I added another , but it seems not to work..12:58
penguinbratdoudou4drt: if you can use static then yeah - the system wont really care if it works or not it will just set the card up with those settings...12:58
topylidoudou4drt: many bugs in ubuntu and debian bugzillas, with lots of duplicates. none of them resolved12:58
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doudou4drtok12:58
topylidoudou4drt: no it's not ok :)12:58
penguinbratpie: but what is the 1e and 2e - nvr heard of them...12:58
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johnwmeject cdrom12:59
SGershonpenguinbrat: Ok, I checked out the 386 packages, and checked in the relative 686 ones. Applying now...12:59
fluvvellpie: do you mean a drive as secondary on a ide (e) or scsi (e) or sd(e) or something?12:59
piepenguinbrat: ..? you meen names..?12:59
penguinbratpie: yeah... are they just normal harddrives?12:59
piepenguinbrat: yes!12:59
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doudou4drti got say the wifi configuration was much more easier than on suse...i had to use modprobe ndiswrapper everytime to use the wifi..don't have the prob on ubuntu01:00
piepenguinbrat: It's seen as 'harddisk' , but I don't get any acces to it..01:00
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dbuggI can't figure this out: when trying to compile psybnc with ssl support it doesn't find the openssl binary even though it is there and I provided it with the right path01:00
sizzamwhat command can i use to identify what kind of processor i have01:00
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lsuactiafnersizzam : cat /proc/cpuinfo01:01
penguinbratpie: do an "ls -l /dev/hd*" to see what group owns those drives (hda,hdb,hdc,hdd,etc...) and then make sure your are in that group with "id"...01:01
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piepenguinbrat: How do I get 'rights' to the 2e harddisk?01:01
solidgroovedoudou4drt, did you try ndiswrapper -m and activate the connection?01:02
lsuactiafnerhdparm -I /dev/sd or /dev/hd whatever device..01:02
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vbhanuHi, can someone tell me if we can stream avi/mp3 files hosted on an ftp01:03
PHZN`awayFinally, I got my ethernet working.01:03
penguinbratpie: if its a normal ide harddisk, it will show up as /dev/hd[abcd]  - which should be owned by root and disk...01:03
PHZN`awaySSH time01:03
NogimicsAnyone installed psyBNC on a ubuntu setup?01:03
doudou4drtit detects the wifi automatically but the network configuration at the boot up seems to be hanging too long01:04
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piepenguinbrat: ls -l /dev/hd* does not work, I get nothing..01:04
lsuactiafnerpie : dmesg | grep -i hd01:05
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penguinbratpie: is this a scsi/usb drive or what?01:05
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piepenguinbrat: IDE01:06
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lsuactiafnerand omw be so sure its actually powered01:06
lsuactiafnerand that the BIOS sees the drive..01:06
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penguinbratpie: you should be getting something from the ls command then... does it not even give you an error?01:06
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lsuactiafnerpenguinbrat : if dmesg | grep -i hd shows nothing then something is wrong in the BIOS or its not powered01:07
lsuactiafnerwrong as in not detected..01:07
pielsuactiafner: dmesg-thing does not work01:07
piepenguinbrat: Ls gives nothing01:07
lsuactiafnerpie : then i think you should check that the BIOS detects the disk01:07
penguinbratpie: just for a sanity check - you are trying these commands from a terminal window right?01:08
PHZN`awayIf I set up Apache to run, does it have to be on an openly shared directory?01:08
piepenguinbrat: I'm be able to se the Hd, but get no acces01:08
lsuactiafnerand using sudo...01:08
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lsuactiafnerpenguinbrat : *cringe*01:08
pielsuactiafner: It's all there, Bios etc01:08
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piepenguinbrat: yes01:09
penguinbratpie: bring up your user/group editor and see what groups your in - it doesnt make any since that dmesg doesnt even work... =(01:09
lsuactiafneris he using sudo?01:10
penguinbratlsuactiafner: ls should still work, and I dont need sudo for anything I've mentioned so far =/01:10
PHZN`awayHow do I save and exit out of vi?01:10
K_DallasQ: How do i deactivate system beeping? at night that causes me lots of problems ;) thanks01:10
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lsuactiafnerPHZN`away : type :q01:10
K_DallasPHZN`away, :! or something like that ;) get a short manual and read it01:10
lsuactiafnershould ask you to save01:10
lsuactiafnerbut i hate vi01:11
keirhas anyone got matplotlib to work with breezy? right now, i a) can't find packages, and b) compiling is failing with crazy errors (probably gcc4)01:11
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lsuactiafneri prefer joe or mcedit.. mcedit has menus but its console..01:11
keirmatplotlib? anyone?01:11
lsuactiafnermcedit.. apt-get install mc01:11
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eedgemaybe someone can help : http://pastebin.com/416664, trying to install wma plugin for bmp.01:11
lsuactiafnerPHZN`away : mc is very usefull01:12
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lsuactiafnereedge : wma for bmp?!01:12
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piepenguinbrat: there is no group where i'm in..?1? Can this be possible?01:13
lsuactiafnereedge : the ubuntu locate avcodec.h01:13
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lsuactiafnereedge : the ubuntu avcodec.h is fscked up01:13
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lsuactiafnereedge : mplayer ppl recommend you just delete it as most packages include it anyway01:13
penguinbratpie: I suppose it would be possible - what did you use to see the groups?01:13
lsuactiafnereedge : so just locate avcodec.h    and   mv file backup01:14
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eedge.... eh? :)01:14
eedgelol01:14
pieFile manager01:14
SkaargI was wondering if I could get some help with booting ubuntu AMD64 version on my comp?01:14
keirerr, in case i missed it... anyone got Matplotlib and Breezy working?01:14
SkaargIt gets an Ok when loading everything and then after that it goes to a black screen plays the startup sound and locks up01:14
lsuactiafnerSkaarg : what version of ubuntu?01:14
Skaarg5.10 live cd01:15
eedgedont I kind of need that file though?01:15
eedge...01:15
eedgeheh01:15
penguinbratSkaarg: whqat video card to have?01:15
lsuactiafnerSkaarg : i had the problem with 5.04 but i just made my own kernel to fix it.. prolly a problem with display card.. try vga=normal when you bootup.. just might work.. though i use lilo...01:15
cyphasewhy do user accounts have access to things they don't need access to?01:15
Skaargit's a dual chipset Geforce 6600 GT01:16
cyphasehmm..01:16
TTiluscyphase: such as?01:16
piepenguinbrat: How do I keep the window open, when I run in terminal?01:16
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cyphasemy bad :)01:16
cyphaselol01:16
lsuactiafnermy 6600 works.. though not dual01:16
kikidonkhi people !01:16
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cyphasei was going to sat /etc..01:16
cyphasebut they need that01:16
cefanyone had issues with lvm on top of software raid 1 in breezy?01:16
SGershonpenguinbrat: How do you said we can do to change the resolution in xinemax? Using what combinatoin of ctrl-+??01:16
kikidonkwe've been doing an ubuntu install party yesterday at our university, now we are going to give a little linux/ubuntu crash course to interested people01:16
lsuactiafnersomeone prolly compiled nvidia framebuffer support without thinking about it..01:17
kikidonkdo you have any pointers to some backup for this ?01:17
penguinbratpie: well, that could be an issue - I have one of the later nvidia cards, and the driver that it is given by default does not like the card at all - acts really weird... you may be in the same boat...01:17
cefI had /var go read only on a such a box today.. *sigh*01:17
kikidonklike pre-made courses, tutorials01:17
kikidonkwhat to talk about01:17
cyphasekikidonk, do you have a webcam?01:17
cyphase;)01:17
Skaargk01:17
kikidonkcyphase: no :)01:17
eedgelsuactiafner, don't I need that file at all then?01:17
lsuactiafnerpenguinbrat : i use the nvidia.com drivers...01:17
penguinbratSGershon: ctrl+alt+[+/-]  plus and mius on the keypad - all it does is cylce through the rez's that are in the config file...01:18
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piepenguinbrat: Be right back, just going for some documentation, give me a minute or 301:18
lsuactiafnereedge : well, gave me more problems than its worth.. and i installed ffmpeg myself.. and you can just move the file to the same place its now... but with _backup @ its end.. and your compile might just work..01:18
cronikguys,how can i play files .mov01:19
cronik?01:19
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cronikany help01:19
lsuactiafnercronik : i use mplayer01:19
eedgeOk, giving it a go now01:19
penguinbratlsuactiafner: use that vga=normal from the boot cmd line in grub like was mentioned earlier, basically get to a normal terminal window without X running first, then make sure you dont have any errors (dmesg) from loading the nvidia module, and make sure nvidia is the driver that X is using - and not nv or something...01:20
bolrodme too01:20
bolrodmplayer with plugins01:20
bolrodor.. were it drivers01:20
bolrodcant remember01:20
lsuactiafnerbolrod : no such thing as plugins.. codecs..01:20
bolrodblah01:20
bolrodmy head isn't working properly today01:20
lsuactiafnerthough ubuntu mplayer is teh suck.. since its not cvs..01:20
nuckhow do i determine the package name to install for example i need the c++ help file for kdevelop and ive installed kdevelop3-data -doc and khelpcenter but still cant access the c++ help01:20
bolrodjust download the source01:21
lsuactiafnerpre7try2 is sucky.. since its old old old01:21
bolrod?01:21
bolrodoh01:21
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bolrodI dont know which one I compiled01:21
jordanhello all01:21
penguinbratpenguinbrat: from the cmdline you can test X, just by entering the command "X" and CTRL+ALT+BCKSPACE to exit it... If you can get that far it should run just fine I would think...01:21
eedgelsuactiafner, renamed to avcodec.h to avcodec.backup and got same errors on make01:21
jordancan anyone help me speed up my cdrom drive?01:21
bolrodcompiled CVS01:21
lsuactiafnernuck : apt-cache search c++ | grep doc01:21
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lsuactiafnerapt-cache search gcc| grep doc01:22
lsuactiafnereedge : link to the source code? let me see if it works for me01:22
penguinbratjordan: you cant really speed up you cdrom other that letting is use DMA that the kernel should be doing already...01:23
nucklsuactiafner but if its in apt-cache that means its installed alrady right?01:23
lsuactiafnergot link01:23
lsuactiafnernuck : no it means the package is in some repository..01:23
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lsuactiafnernuck : but the naming is confusing.. basically apt-cache searches your index of packages that are available online ect01:23
penguinbratjordan: although I have come across some systems that the cdrom reads at like speed x1 for some reason but only when installing - is that what is happening?01:23
lsuactiafnerbmp-wma-0.1.1.tar.gz:             ETA:   1:19  157.64/458.86 kB    3.83 kB/s01:24
eedgelsuactiafner, ok, http://download.berlios.de/bmp-plugins/bmp-wma-0.1.1.tar.gz01:24
eedgeok your ahead of me.01:24
eedgeheh01:24
bur[n] erlsuactiafner: u want a .deb of that?01:24
jordanhey penguinbrat, like when I am ripping music - it does it at like 1.2x01:24
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eedge3.83 KB/s? you on dialup...01:24
lsuactiafnerbur[n] er : eedge does..01:24
eedgeI do! I do!01:24
eedgelol01:24
lsuactiafnereedge : yeh01:24
jordanwhen I had windows (yuck) it ripped at like 9x01:24
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bur[n] ereedge: check yer msgs01:25
lsuactiafnereedge : luckly there is a local gentoo mirror.. else it will be @ 1k/s01:25
eedgeDialup is evil.01:25
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Delvienwhat command to run the screenshot program in KDE01:25
penguinbratjordan: I havent ripped much, but that "may" be because it is doing other things at the same time or something, just a guess though...01:25
lsuactiafnereedge : anything else is too expensive in south-africa..01:25
bur[n] ereedge: i sent ya another one01:25
lsuactiafnercurrupt governemnt cant manage to privitise telecoms01:26
penguinbratDelvien: ksnapshot i think01:26
lsuactiafnerand they dont realise telecoms is related to economics growth01:26
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piepenguinbrat: Made some thing work a little01:26
penguinbratjordan: one thing it could be trying to do is getting around some copy protection...01:26
amonkeyis there something i need to do to be able to mount an iso thats on a samba share? i tried smb://01:27
lsuactiafnereedge : i have checking for bmp >= 0.9.7 no.. so check bur[n] er's link.. else i'll have to install a dependancy...01:27
penguinbratpie: you solve some things?01:27
lsuactiafneramonkey : mount //ip/share_name /mnt/mount_point01:27
jordanhow do I check that my drive is setup to use DMA?01:27
piepenguinbrat: How do I go to the root? I get the error: "Only the 'root' can do that"01:27
amonkeyi can't mount the iso with loop without mounting the network share?01:28
penguinbratpie: use 'sudo ....' , it will ask you for your password - enter it and it will run the program...01:28
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eedgelsuactiafner, used bur[n] er's link, worked great :)01:28
lsuactiafneramonkey : if on netowrk dont use loop01:28
lsuactiafneramonkey : if the file is on your own disk use loop01:28
lsuactiafnereedge : cool01:29
amonkeylsuactiafner, i get special device smb://blah does not exist., but i can get to it through naut01:29
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ColD_7how come all of a sudden, i cant view certain website01:30
lsuactiafneramonkey : run df and see where its mounted..01:30
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ColD_7when i click to yahoo mail, it is redirecting me to hotmail01:30
ColD_7and some other website as well01:30
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lsuactiafneramonkey : but i think you didnt use //ip/share_name /mnt/existing_mount_point01:31
piepenguinbrat: I don't get any luck..01:31
lsuactiafneramonkey : smbclient -L ip01:31
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penguinbratamonkey: also realize that naut uses its own internals to "virtually" mount the smb share - ie its not really doing it... you need to install the smbmount apps to actually mount it...01:31
piepenguinbrat: I don't get any luck..Itriet to 'mount the hdd, but it gives the error: "no acces"01:31
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penguinbratpie: did you try it as root?01:31
penguinbratpie: meaning sudo?01:32
piepenguinbrat: I don't get any luck..Itriet to 'mount the hdd, but it gives the error: "no acces"With the sudo part it does not find anything...01:32
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lsuactiafnerapt-get install smbfs01:32
marlamb_somebody speak spanish here?01:32
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darkarchonmarlamb_, check #ubuntu-es01:32
amonkeylsuactiafner, how do i set the username with a space in it? i tried %20 and it got angry01:33
penguinbratpie: is this a fresh install of the OS? because it sounds like something is screwed up somewhere with users and such...01:33
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amonkeylsuactiafner, just quoted it01:33
lsuactiafneramonkey : put "name name"01:33
lsuactiafneramonkey : ie, in quotes..01:33
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lsuactiafneramonkey : but its just easier all around to not use spaces @ all01:34
piepenguinbrat: I 't an empty 2e Hard-disk..01:34
amonkeylsuactiafner, kind of peeved i didn't think to do that...01:34
lsuactiafneramonkey : try \ before the space also name\ name01:34
piemount hdd usr01:34
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amonkeylsuactiafner, i meant to say, i tried quotes and it worked01:34
lsuactiafnercool01:34
lsuactiafneramonkey : am used to using the commandline.. ubuntu users aint01:35
eedgeI think I'm falling in love with ubuntu.01:35
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nucklsuactiafner ok thanks... i still havent got it to work tho maybe need tto reboot01:35
penguinbratpie: so our trying to install a fresh ubuntu to it?01:35
eedgeSo much so, that I've actually deleted my windows xp prof partition :P01:35
lsuactiafnernuck : you never reboot linux for something to work unless its a new kernel01:36
lsuactiafnernuck : what was your problem?01:36
amonkeylsuactiafner, that took way too much finagling to get mounted. most likely cuz of the spaces (my documents, user name)01:36
amonkeylsuactiafner, got it working, thanks01:36
lsuactiafneramonkey : try not to name anything with spaces in it01:36
piepenguinbrat: No and yess, it's just an (dos) formatted hard disk01:36
lsuactiafneri name all my mp3 folders and movies with _ in it01:37
lsuactiafnercurrently i have a program running with commandline options thats around 3 lines on my 1024x768x64k console01:37
piepenguinbrat: I want to use it to store data, but no acces..01:38
lsuactiafnerpie : cfdisk /dev/disk01:38
lsuactiafneryou might need to partition and format it01:38
FlannelKingAnyone know anything about EVMS? or device dm-7?01:38
nucklsuactiafner im using kdevelop and i want to launch help in the context of the highlighted keyword say "switch" in c++ but when khelpcenter is launch it says the documentation for c/c++ is unavailable01:38
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lsuactiafnernuck : i like using joe to program.. but run ldconfig01:39
penguinbratpie: well, to be honest I dont even understand why you cant use ls to view the device files, or use the dmesg cmd... if those dont work something else is really hozed up =/01:39
piepenguinbrat: result: Fatal error: can not open disk..01:39
nucklsuactiafner i cant switch IDE this late in my developmetn01:39
penguinbratpie: what is that a result of?01:40
lsuactiafnerapt-get install gcc-3.4-doc gcc-4.0-doc gcc-doc cpp-2.95-doc gcc272-docs01:40
nuckbtw what IDE do you use for java?01:40
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nucklsuactiafner was that for me?01:40
piepenguinbrat: result: Fatal error: can not open disk..(cfdisk /dev/disk01:40
nuckoh of course :-)01:40
lsuactiafneri just use joe or mcedit.. colourises text.. and consoles to switch work...01:40
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lsuactiafnerpie : when i say disk i mean /dev/sdb or /dev/hdb01:41
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penguinbratpie: oh, it wont be /dev/disk - it'll be /dev/hda, /dev/hdb, /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd (one of the 4 possible drives you can have on your system)01:41
lsuactiafneror whatever the new disk is named..01:41
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penguinbratpie: you can also use "fdisk -l /dev/hd..." to get a quick listing of the partitions for that particular drive..01:42
bobesponjahow can i install mplayer oon breezy, nerim doesn4t work01:42
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piepenguinbrat: result: Fatal error...01:42
lsuactiafnerbobesponja : apt-get build-dep mplayer      and     then compile the sourcecode.. preferably cvs01:43
lsuactiafnerbobesponja : thats what i do.. though its not the ubuntu way...01:43
lsuactiafnerubuntu likes packages..01:43
penguinbratpie: use "sudo fdisk -l [the device] ", and enter your users password01:43
piepenguinbrat: result: both commands do not find some thing (fdisk and cfdisk)01:43
penguinbratpie: use the sudo comand in front of them...01:44
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piepenguinbrat: result: BINGO>>>!01:44
lsuactiafnerbobesponja : www4.mplayerhq.hu01:44
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pupilwhats a good program for partitioning?01:44
lsuactiafnerpupil : cfdisk01:44
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AngryClippupil, gpart01:45
penguinbratpie: kk =) you can do the same with cfdisk, just use sudo in front of the commands =)01:45
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lsuactiafnercfdisk is sexier..01:45
pupilAngryClip,  does it also format?01:45
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piepenguinbrat: I have my harddisk, but will it store now..?01:45
Skaarghmm I still can't boot ubuntu I typed in noapic and nolapic, to get the boot sound to work, and then it locks up, but if I put in no paramaters it gets an OK for everything and all Isee is a white line on the screen01:45
lsuactiafnermkfs.ext3 does..01:45
AngryClippupil, I beleive so, but not the drive you are using/are mounted01:45
lsuactiafnercfdisk then mkfs.ext301:45
AngryCliplsuactiafner, not really01:45
pupilAngryClip,  So I have to umount before formatting? correct?01:46
penguinbratpie: you'll have to format it... 'sudo mkfs.ext3 [device] '01:46
pupilAngryClip,  what if I already have it partitioned,. and I just want to format it01:46
AngryClippupil, I belive so, but you are best looking at the docks01:46
penguinbratpie: fyi, if your going to use the entire disk as one partition, you dont need to partition it, although the gui interfaces may not like that...01:46
AngryClippupil, you *should* be ok01:46
PHZN`awayIs it possible to make a script run through sudo at boot time?01:46
piepenguinbrat: oke..01:47
AngryClippupil, if you try doing anything dodgy, it will alert you01:47
lsuactiafnerPHZN`away : put the script in /etc/init.d/01:47
pupilAngryClip,  would I also use gpart for formatting, isn't there a command to format a drive ?01:47
PHZN`awayAnd it will run as root?01:47
pupilor a partition rather?01:47
lsuactiafnerPHZN`away : but its your ifconfig lines better try to figure out how to setup a netowrk device the ubuntu way....01:47
koala_manyou should always partition. you lose maybe 100kb in the process, but it'll make life so much easier later01:47
penguinbratpie: after you format it - all you have to do is edit your /etc/fstab to mount it at boot each time and your done =D01:47
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mc|ambwhat is wrong when-> mount: can't get address for //192.168.1.3....01:48
PHZN`awaybrb01:48
lsuactiafnermc|amb : ping -c 2 192.168.1.301:48
lsuactiafnermc|amb : mount //ip/share_name /mnt/existing_mount_point01:48
lsuactiafnermc|amb : apt-get install smbfs01:49
lsuactiafnerok now sleep night all01:49
penguinbratnight01:49
mc|amblsuactiafner: thanks01:49
piepenguinbrat: format is done01:49
penguinbratpie: do 'sudo mkdir /mnt/storage' or something - essentially make a directory where you want to mount the harddrive...01:50
vbhanuwhat is the command to start midnight commander?01:50
penguinbratmc i think01:50
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gimmulfCant figure out howto use xlockmore-gl could someone help me?01:50
vbhanuk01:50
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gimmulf!xlock01:51
ubotuI haven't a clue, gimmulf01:51
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koochi!dma01:51
penguinbratgimmulf: have you tried the man page for it?01:51
lsuactiafnerapt-get install vbhanu01:51
lsuactiafnerapt-get install mc01:51
penguinbratgimmulf: ive nvr used it or I would tell you =P01:51
gimmulfpenguinbrat:  yes man xlock but cant find anything useful01:52
gimmulfthat i understand01:52
lsuactiafnervbhanu : if mc looks funky just type reset and press enter01:52
piepenguinbrat: mounting does not work so far, any ideas..01:52
penguinbratpie: you need to put the sudo cmd first like the other cmds... what is the error?01:52
mc|amblsuactiafner: after sudo mount //192.168.1.3/rar /mnt/win01:53
mc|ambtimeout connecting to 192.168.1.3:44501:53
mc|amb  timeout connecting to 192.168.1.3:13901:53
mc|ambError connecting to 192.168.1.3 (Operation already in progress)01:53
mc|amb19333: Connection to 192.168.1.3 failed01:53
mc|ambSMB connection failed01:53
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PHZN`awayCan someone help me change the commands used to configure my network card at boot time?01:53
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lsuactiafnermc|amb : run df01:54
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mc|amblsuactiafner: done01:54
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mc|amblsuactiafner: what next, sorry to bother01:54
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vbhanulsuactiafner : got it, i had not installer the midnight commander thank you01:55
penguinbratgimmulf: i just installed it, and there doesnt apear to be a cmd for it - the screensavers for gnome/kde will lock the system too, is that what your trying to do?01:55
wariohi!!, somebody from Mexico, or Latinamerica01:55
Skaargwhen I but the ubuntu live cd I type live noapic nolapic, and I get to where I atleast have some sound, but then after the startup sound it locks up any ideas?01:55
pupilif I want to umount a partition.. do I simply umount /media/hdc6 ?01:55
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lsuactiafnermc|amb : might have told you its already mouned.. if you run mount it will tell you for sure01:55
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gimmulfpenguinbrat:  yes, some kind of password protected screensaver01:56
piepenguinbrat: command not found01:56
mc|amblsuactiafner: it didn't work01:56
PHZN`awayWhere is the script that configures my eth0 at boot time?01:56
amonkeyis there a way i can freeze my nic? i just want to not let any data through for small period of time01:56
penguinbratgimmulf: scratch that - the cmd line version is simply /usr/X11R6/bin/xlock by itself, it blacks the screen to a screen saver and wants your passwd to give your system back...01:56
mc|ambwhat do i have to do to the dir in the windows comp in order to share it???01:57
gimmulfpenguinbrat:  ahhh now it workd thatnks, nice01:57
penguinbratgimmulf: although in either window manager, under the screen saver section, there is an option to require a password when restoring the session...01:57
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gimmulfoki, thanks01:58
lsuactiafnermc|amb : share it normally like you would for a windows pc.. then run apt-get install smbfs  then smbclient... then smbclient -L ip and then everything should be clear..01:58
penguinbratpie: here do this... 'sudo nano /etc/fstab'01:58
lsuactiafnermc|amb : ping -c 2 192.168.1.301:58
lsuactiafnerbed now01:58
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lsuactiafneri have a headache already01:58
lsuactiafnerFri Nov  4 03:00:28 SAST 200501:58
PHZN`awayCan someone help me change the commands used to configure my network card at boot time?01:58
alex_i need help01:58
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penguinbratpie: and add at the bottom of the file... /dev/[device]     /mnt/storage   ext3   defaults   0 001:59
mc|amblsuactiafner, thanks i'll see what i can do01:59
lsuactiafnerPHZN`away : this time of day few ppl are here to help.. seveas is an ubuntu master.01:59
piepenguinbrat: yess, and now?01:59
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GnuKemistdoes anybody know if you can install Breezy and choose linux-686 from the start?01:59
lsuactiafnerSeveas crimsun one of em always helps me02:00
PHZN`awayAnd they're not here, are they?02:00
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lsuactiafnersleepin02:00
PHZN`awayFigures.02:00
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penguinbratGnuKemist: i dont think you can, once everything is installed you can change kernels to the 686 version though...02:00
PHZN`awayWhen I need people, they're not present.02:00
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penguinbratpie: after you have that in there and saved, all you have to do is 'sudo mount -a'02:01
GnuKemistPenguin__, thought so...  wished you could just install it from the get go02:01
GnuKemistPenguin__, thanx02:01
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GnuKemistthanx02:01
alex_How can i get msn in linux02:01
choizyI just installed ubuntu. But when i remove the cd and boot again it hangs up on loading the module hotplug subsystem. Annyone that are familiar with this problem ?02:01
penguinbratalex_: gaim....02:01
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choizyAlex: gaim02:01
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choizysorry. To slow.02:02
lsuactiafnerPHZN`away : might be a gnome menu for it02:02
lsuactiafnerPHZN`away : but i dont use menus.. just blackbox and xterms..02:02
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alex_or the web page to download it02:02
penguinbratchoizy: there is somehardware that the kernel isnt liking for some reason- could just be the order, or something... what are you installing on?02:02
lsuactiafner*gone*02:03
choizypenguinbrat: Asus A6000V, notebook02:03
penguinbratchoizy: hmm, k - the last time I had this issue was with redhat on a notebook - it didnt like the firewire =( try adding "no acpi" to the kernel boot parms - you know how to do that from grub?02:04
mc|ambwhats wrong when--> error connecting to *ip* (no route to host)02:05
choizypenguinbrat: Just adding a new line under, root, kernel, initrd, boot ?02:05
alex_heeeeeeeeeellllllllllpppppppppp02:05
choizymc|amb: your network isn't configured right I guess. Might be missing a gateway.02:05
piepenguinbrat: done it all you told me, but does it work?02:05
piepenguinbrat: hang-on, I'll check it for a moment02:06
mc|ambchoizy: do you know how can i configure it?02:06
choizymc|amb: How did you configure the network. If you do a ifconfig and past the result in a msg I can check it out.02:06
jamestdo we know of broken packages in dapper that i can work on?02:06
penguinbratchoizy: well, trhats the perm way to do it, when grub comes up to select an OS, highlight the kernel, hit 'e', it will bring you to another screen, highlight the one with all the options on it and add the no acpi option to it...02:06
jamestalex_ what is the problem?02:06
penguinbratchoizy: then hit enter, and then 'b' to boot the modified version...02:06
mc|ambchoizy: thanks, just a sec02:06
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choizypenguinbrat: thanks, I'll try it.02:07
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infested_maggothello guys02:07
penguinbratpie: type in 'df', if everything worked it will show up in the list of mounted devices...02:07
frogzooor 'mount'02:07
alex_i cant install the msn02:08
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philippe_hi02:08
odie5533There anyway to get netbeans on ubuntu?02:08
jamestMSN?02:08
mc|ambeth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:A1:19:C9:4002:08
mc|amb          inet addr:192.168.1.4  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.002:08
mc|amb          inet6 addr: fe80::208:a1ff:fe19:c940/64 Scope:Link02:08
mc|amb          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:102:08
mc|amb          RX packets:698186 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:002:08
mc|amb          TX packets:397310 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:1 carrier:002:08
mc|amb          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100002:08
mc|amb          RX bytes:868778380 (828.5 MiB)  TX bytes:28883048 (27.5 MiB)02:08
philippe_How do you set up a VPN in ubuntu?02:08
mc|amb          Interrupt:11 Base address:0xec0002:08
mc|amblo        Link encap:Local Loopback02:08
odie5533mc|amb, STOP02:08
frogzoodude - please don't paste here02:08
mc|amb          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.002:08
gleesondcan ubuntu take rpm's?02:08
mc|amb          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host02:08
choizymc|amb: not in the channel :d02:08
mc|amb          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:102:08
mc|amb          RX packets:289931 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:002:08
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mc|amb          TX packets:289931 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:002:08
aeon17xmc|amb: pastebin, dude02:08
mc|amb          collisions:0 txqueuelen:002:08
penguinbratalex_: there isn't an 'msn' persay for linux - the program 'gaim' supports the msn protocal... you can use it to chat with just like msn...02:08
jamestphilippe_ , you need a soft pkg02:08
mc|amb          RX bytes:21521896 (20.5 MiB)  TX bytes:21521896 (20.5 MiB)02:08
piepenguinbrat: yes, it's there but how do I get writing acces..?02:08
choizyHe's trying to past it in an msg to me.02:08
philippe_jamest:  which one?02:08
aeon17x!tell mc|amb about pastebin02:08
jamestgleesond , alien02:08
mc|ambhow??? i dunno how to. sorry02:08
jamestphilippe_ , GOOGLE! :)02:08
philippe_ok02:09
alex_oooo thanks i neww in this02:09
infested_maggotcan anyone help me with this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4051 ?!?02:09
bimberigleesond: yes, (using alien) but you should try hard to find an ubuntu package first02:09
jamestphilippe_ , run apt-cache search vpn02:09
piepenguinbrat: it's '755' when I check it02:09
frogzoophilippe - ssh maybe?02:09
FlannelKingAnyone know anything about EVMS? or what device dm-7 might be?02:09
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eedgeeeeeeeek, I don't know what to do now... I think I have everything set up that I want to set up :P02:09
jamestfrogzoo , yes you do but it must be tunnelled02:09
Waerermy breezy, plays slow vcd...need help02:09
gleesondI need to have iscan for my scanner to work properly but I could not find it in the deb repositories02:09
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gleesondI tried to install from the source and it didn't like me, so I thought I could install from a rmp02:10
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philippe_other quick question, what is a daemon by definition?02:10
choizymc|amb: Type /msg choizy infront of every message02:10
jamestgleesond , well you might be missing a dependecy...02:10
penguinbratpie: there are 2 ways to do this... change a few things in the fstab file, or simply make a directory under /mnt/storage and then change the permisions on it ;-)02:10
jamestgleesond , man alien02:11
alex_penguinbrat: if i am using ubunto witch do i download02:11
gleesondthats the problem is that I don't know where to look for the needed dependancies02:11
jamestgleesond , the command is alien so it would be something like       alien --to-deb <PKG>02:11
gleesondok02:11
jamestgleesond , well it would break the ./configure02:11
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choizymc|amb: are you still here ?02:11
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penguinbratalex_: just do a search for gaim in the synamptic pac man, and install the first 2 listing you will see (gaim, and gaim-data)02:12
nickrudphilippe_, a background process (wikipedia)02:12
jamestalex_, fuck that...just do an apt-get install gaim02:12
piepenguinbrat: How?02:12
frogzoophilippe a daemon is a program that executes in the background, and provides some kind of general service02:12
solidgrooveI make a script that uses wine (cedega) to run a game (steam) but I get a wine error about permissions for accessing the directory that the EXE is in that the script runs02:12
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vbhanuRiverRat: did you notice this section of the abstract "By simply mounting the server on a local directory, the user is able to access files on remote FTP servers just as if they were local files."02:12
piepenguinbrat: I do not get any acces, is there a way around?02:13
jamestsolidgroove , chmod02:13
jamestman chmod02:13
jamestor run as root02:13
vbhanuRiverRat: i do not think mc does that02:13
masterlokican someone help me with this http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/post-318811.html02:13
solidgroovechmod which files... everything is 77702:13
jamestalways a better idea with any emu02:13
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solidgrooveand the script is +x02:13
infested_maggotcan anyone help me with this error please: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4051 ?!?02:13
gmajdub, Charlottetown is "60 minutes from the confederation bridge"02:13
jamestmasterloki , you need to be more specific...i only have one term open for this irc client02:13
gmahttp://www.visitcharlottetown.com/about/faq.cfm02:13
penguinbratpie: changing the permissions or changing the fstab?02:14
jamestwhat the dece02:14
jamestDON"T CHANGE FSTAB UNLESS YOU KNOW WTF YOU ARE DOING02:14
piepenguinbrat: fstab02:14
jamestyou comp may not boot02:14
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jamestpie , just cp the /dev loc02:14
aeon17xJamest: That's why we make backups. :)02:14
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jamestaeon17x , the whole point is to never have to use them!02:15
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vladyhola02:15
jamesthola02:15
jamestcomo esta?02:15
vladyalguien  me  puede  ayudar?02:15
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jamestsi02:15
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aeon17xjamest: But we're human. We make mistakes, and we're incredibly good at doing so. Hence backups.02:15
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jamesthablo espanol un poco02:15
HobzIRC!02:15
vladyok02:15
jamestaeon17x , yea02:15
alex_jamest> hablas espanol02:15
vladyacabo  de  instalar  ubuntu  en  mi  equipo  y  no  me  reconoxce  el  mouse02:16
jamesthablo italiano :)02:16
penguinbratpie: just use the diectory way, it will be more permanent and you wont have to mount it each time... with the fstab, you will need to mount it when you want to write to it...02:16
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vlady?02:16
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alex_alguien que hable espamol02:16
alex_soy nuevo en esto y ando bien perdido02:16
frogzoomasterloki u find someone to help you?02:16
jamestvlady , USB o PS202:16
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blankhey guys02:16
vladyseerial02:16
n0odl3uh am i in the spanish ubuntu channel?02:16
HytakHi... I got a laptop, and Ubuntu work great on it, it's fun... except, of course, the modem... a Agere Systems AC'97 Modem... a softmodem... I used scanModem to find info on it but I'm not sure, someone know about hsf modems on Ubuntu? (Or liux in geneal)02:16
blankI was just wondering, I know they're both the same distro, but what should I choose, ubuntu or kubuntu02:16
eriscoi am having a lot of problem with the keyboard not working with java or flash. is this a known problem with a solution? sometimes my keyboard works, other times it wont...02:17
piepenguinbrat: the cp /dev did not work02:17
blankI mean, if I choose ubuntu, and install KDE, would it be worse than just installing kubuntu/02:17
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jamestvlady , compa un mouse nuovo02:17
masterlokifrogzoo, well i found help but i can't solve my problem yet02:17
vladyok02:17
vladygracias02:17
n0odl3blank: Ubuntu02:17
mc|ambchoicy: did you get the file?02:17
jamestvlady , no se...02:17
blankor vice versa, if I install gnome on kubuntu02:17
n0odl3blank: kubuntu is really buggy at the moment02:17
jamestvlady , perdon02:17
vladyvale02:17
infested_maggotcan anyone help me with this error pls: "trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/fireglcontrolpanel', which is also in package fglrx-control"02:17
piepenguinbrat: isn't it a better way to set the permissions free02:17
masterlokiJamest,  I added a drive but Linux didn't boot and now I leave everithing the way it was02:17
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blankah, thanks for the help, so my best bet would be installing ubuntu and then kde, thanks02:17
penguinbratpie: cp /dev? dont try to do that - you will get a result that you will not expect...02:17
jamestmasterloki , ?02:18
blankthanks guys02:18
n0odl3blank: use ubuntu with the default gnome02:18
blankno kde?02:18
jamestblank , sure you can have KDE02:18
masterlokijamest, you asked to be more specific02:18
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cefok this is disturbing. I'm getting my /var partition remounting itself read only!02:18
n0odl3blank: using KDE with ubuntu may cause GPG key broblems02:18
blankah okay02:18
ubuntujust testing02:18
holycowyou can installkde separately02:18
jamestmasterloki , i need even more specific :)02:18
HytakIn kernel 2.6, is there modversions.h or not? I heard it was replaced by modsetver.h ....?02:18
n0odl3some of my packages broke when i tried switching to kde02:18
ubuntufirst time linux user02:18
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holycowwelcome ubuntu02:18
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piepenguinbrat: the cp /mnt/storage thing..02:19
ubuntuubuntu is cooler than xp02:19
holycowubuntu, do /nick somenewnickrepresenting you02:19
penguinbratpie: just 'sudo mkdir /mnt/storage/something', 'sudo chown [username] :[username]  /mnt/storage/something'02:19
n0odl3ubuntu: i agree02:19
masterlokijamest, now after grub load and ubuntu begins to load stuff it asks for /dev/hdd202:19
ubuntui think ill trow02:19
propagandhiubuntu: cool and XP dont mix02:19
alex_pinguinbrat: down load allready02:19
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alex_aand ten02:19
penguinbratpie: what are you trying to copy?02:19
Boobooteste02:19
Booboocool02:19
masterlokijamest, but now i edited fstab but still I cant get it02:19
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infested_maggotcan anyone help me with this error pls: "trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/fireglcontrolpanel', which is also in package fglrx-control"02:19
jamestmasterloki , well where is / booted02:19
n0odl3ubuntuL: since your a new to linux go to www.tuxmagazine.com and subcribe... Its a free webzine for new linux users!02:20
masterloki/dev/hdd202:20
Booboofuck xp hurrah for this stuff02:20
masterlokijamest /dev/hdb202:20
cefok this is disturbing. I'm getting my /var partition remounting itself read only! 2 x 120 gig drives in raid1 (software), drives split into 2 partitions, 1st partition is /, second partition is LVM, which contains /var and swap02:20
Boobooc ya02:20
jamestmasterloki , hmm can you PM me your /etc/fstab?02:20
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holycowwelcome peeps, make yer self comfy on planet linux :)02:20
jamest /msg jamest02:20
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masterlokijamest, ok02:20
holycowcontribute to help files, bug testing, maybe even code up some stuff if you can :)02:20
n0odl3w007 im glad i made the switch to linux at a fairly young age of 1702:21
n0odl3(i am 17 currently)02:21
cevizogluholycow, I didn't know linux was so dang comfy!02:21
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Skaarglinux is cumfy atleast for this comp02:21
jamestmasterloki , sorry flood02:21
Skaargjust wish it would boot on my other02:21
holycown0odl3, linux experience will become very valuable in the future, particularly as drm and others try to close in on our rights and freedoms02:21
darkarchonholycow, indeed02:22
masterlokijamest, ?02:22
penguinbratinfested_maggot: i havent had that problem (nvidia here), but I would try uninstalling both packages and reinstalling in a different order...02:22
holycowcevizoglu, :) indeed, requires elbow grease and my thanks to mark and the ubuntu people for it02:22
masterlokijamest, pastebin?02:22
n0odl3holycow: what is drm?02:22
holycowdigital rights management02:22
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darkarchondata rights management02:22
darkarchonurx02:22
holycowsuch as you find with windows media player 1002:22
n0odl3holycow: yes i agree02:22
jamesttry again please masterloki02:22
penguinbratmasterloki: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/02:22
cevizogluholycow, I haven't used any elbox grease on ubuntu, that's why I like it so much  :)02:22
jamestpenguinbrat , are you devo?02:23
darkarchonhmm02:23
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darkarchonafter i installed ubuntu today at my girlfriends comp02:23
dooglusI'm going to buy a new PC.  Is it better to get an ATI or Nvidia graphics card for x.org compatibility?02:23
holycowby switching to linux, you probably are doing it for your own reasons, BUT, what you are really doing long terms is staking your self a bit of freedom and independence02:23
darkarchonnvidia dooglus02:23
darkarchonnvidia in anyway.02:23
jamest?02:23
penguinbratjamest: devo = development I take it? nope - just been around Linux for a very long time...02:23
jamestahh02:23
tonyyarussoI seem to have killed something with the Gnome Application Installer (gnome-app-install) in Breezy.  Is there anyone who thinks they may be able to help?  (I can post the error messages from the terminal in flood if someone thiinks they have a chance.)02:24
dooglusdarkarchon: sorry, I don't know what you mean.02:24
jamesti'm from the freebsd realm02:24
darkarchonafter i installed ubuntu today at my girlfriends comp, i have to say its kinda klickibunti02:24
holycowcevizoglu, heh, ubuntu proved to me debian is an amazing distro, however it did require lots of extra effort debian doesn't have available for natural reasons02:24
n0odl3holycow: I love how linux is so versitle... Now the only things i have left on my to do list is learn how to compile program and set up my Mouse Pen tablet02:24
darkarchondooglus, nvidia is better for xorg.02:24
holycowoh also the gnome people too, i love gnome02:24
dooglusdarkarchon: is ATI supported too?02:24
[nige] anyone know anything about fibre optic networking?02:24
darkarchoneh it is...02:24
n0odl3holycow: Being able to download source and compile it yourself is very self assuring02:24
darkarchonbut the drivers suck02:24
holycown0odl3, yeah, lots and lots to learn *nod*02:24
jamestdooglus , depends02:24
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holycowi agree n0odl302:24
dooglusdarkarchon: ok.02:24
piepenguinbrat: funny.., afther all the work, still no acces, just 'reading', but no writing..02:24
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dooglusjamest: upon?02:25
jamestwhich card :)02:25
jamestthey require drivers...02:25
dooglusjamest: I was looking at the ATI 700X or some such02:26
jamestdooglus ...but you can always find a dri-trunk if you need02:26
penguinbratpie: errr... alright, edit you /etc/fstab file again and change that last line where it says 'defaults', to 'defaults,users,rw,noauto'02:26
tonyyarusso[nige] : I know the science behind it, but I don't have any experience using it.  What kind of information do you need?02:26
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jamestdooglus , i'm sure02:26
darkarchondooglus, dont take the X70002:26
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darkarchonthe card is crap02:26
dooglusdarkarchon: go on?02:26
dooglusoh, right02:26
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penguinbratpie: then 'sudo umount /mnt/storage', then as the normal user, ie no sudo - just enter 'mount /mnt/storage'02:26
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darkarchonever thought about getting an 6600gt? or 6800?02:26
EddieIve just mangled my ubuntu02:26
Eddiei tried to install amarok02:26
Eddieand dpkg started removing ubuntu-desktop02:26
Eddietotem02:26
Eddieand rhythmbox02:26
Eddiei try to reinstall them and i get a load of stuff about dependencies02:27
jamestEddie , thats not mangled at all :)02:27
Eddieeach leading to another02:27
mc|ambwhy can my winpc successfuly ping my linuxpc and not the other way around????02:27
Eddiejamest: ok, ive sprained my ubuntu02:27
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dooglusdarkarchon: I don't know anything about hardware02:27
jamestEddie , now thats better :)02:27
jamesti would update02:27
Eddiebut ive a feeling ubuntu-desktop is important02:27
dooglusdarkarchon: but I'd be buying a laptop02:27
Eddieok02:27
darkarchondooglus, urgs.02:27
Eddiethis all spawns from one little thing02:27
jamestEddie , is this on a personal machine?02:27
Eddiei just want to be able to listen to the podcasts on abovetopsecret.com02:27
Eddieyeah02:27
jamestok cool02:28
Eddiemy only PC, since I sold the laptop to buy a hifi last week02:28
titanium!ping02:28
ubotuKeep your fingers to yourself, titanium.02:28
mc|ambwhy can my winpc successfuly ping my linuxpc and not the other way around????02:28
eedgewow, ubuntu is sooo damn cool :)02:28
eedgelol02:28
cefmc|amb: windows firewall blocking the pings? it does that by default02:28
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jamesteedge , ???02:28
penguinbratmc|amb: there is no reason unless there is a weird conflict somewhere - you sure you have the addresses right?02:28
darkarchoneedge, debian is kinda better.in my opinion02:28
jamest!current kernel02:28
ubotujamest: I don't know, could you explain it?02:28
jamestno you idiot02:28
jamest!kernel02:28
tonyyarussoEddie: Yeah, it is a bit.  I've done the same thing; now I've learned to check the list of pkgs to be removed.02:28
penguinbratmc|amb: conflict meaning in your network hardware...02:28
jamestthats sick02:28
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Eddieok dist-upgrade isnt doing what i need to02:28
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penguinbratmc|amb: or that to =P02:29
eedgeI'm just happy I've deleted my windows partition :)02:29
eedgehe02:29
eedgeh02:29
Eddietonyyarusso: is there some kind of apt-get -reinstall-all-the-crap-i-killed command02:29
jamestEddie , are you versed with sources.list02:29
darkarchoneedge I'm just happy I've deleted my windows partition :) < urx02:29
darkarchonif ure a gamer, u will reinstall windows.02:29
Eddiejamest: enough to know its a list of debian repositories02:29
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Eddiedarkarchon: im not a gamer02:29
jamestEddie , ok switch the breezy to dapper02:29
mc|ambcef, penguinbrat: thanks,is there a way to disable the windows firewall??02:29
Eddiedapper is testing?02:29
pizuxdo u know how configure proftpd with a domainname instead of ip because mine is dynamaic02:30
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darkarchonEddie, i didnt meant you02:30
EddieI just wanna get my desktop back02:30
jamestEddie , come on...this is not testing02:30
dooglusEddie: dapper is development02:30
cefmc|amb: yes. you problably don't want to disable it, just turn on ICMP ping responses02:30
EddieI dont even really care about totem because its crap02:30
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Eddieas is rhythm box02:30
mc|ambcef: how do i do that?02:30
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FlannelKingAnyone know anything about EVMS? or what device dm-7 might be?02:30
jamestEddie , thats fine...but you either need to remove all the repositories...or update the whole list02:30
Eddieisnt there a command where i can tell apt to do whatever it needs to in order to ensure ubuntu-desktop is installed?02:30
cevizogluEddie, neither do I, xine handles most of my video needs02:30
penguinbratmc|amb: you need to get to the network settings for that interface somehow - but then there will be options for disabling the firewall...02:30
doogluspizux: try myip.com or dyndns.com02:30
cevizogluEddie, and amarok for music needs02:31
tonyyarussoEddie: Not that I'm aware of, although that doesn't mean there isn't.  You could try apt-get -f install, which will attempt to correct the dependencies errors.  This will either fix it by succeeding in replacing what you need, or in my experience, if that fails, it will correct the problem by asking to delete everything else.02:31
jamestEddie, just reinstall ubuntu-desktop02:31
jamestthen02:31
pizuxiv already done it02:31
pizuxdooglus02:31
Eddiecevizoglu: I tried to install amarok, thats why ubuntu-desktop was removed, for some reason02:31
doogluspizux: so what's the problem02:31
thewayofzenwho is it i have to bother to request a package be added to backports?02:31
eedgeI don't game much, so its really not a prob.02:31
cefmc|amb: go into Security Centre in XP, go into the firewalll section, and look at advanced. you should be able to modify something to do with ICMP or ping stuff there... I don't have XP here so I can't help mroe than that. btw: it's really an XP question, you need to ask people who deal in XP, not ubuntu02:31
eedge:P02:31
pizuxeuh is proftpd find my domain name instead of my ip?02:31
jamestthewayofzen , i could help02:31
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nickrudI vote for epiphany 1.9.102:32
jamestthewayofzen , why don't you do it :)02:32
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cevizogluthewayofzen, isn't there a sourceforge page for backports with a list of maintainers?02:32
tonyyarussoEddie: You could also just try apt-get -f install ubuntu-desktop, which might be able to do something.02:32
jamestnickrud , use firefox02:32
thewayofzenJamest and i would do it how?!?02:32
Eddiehttp://pastebin.ca/27563 theres my apt output02:32
jamestEddie , i woudl force the apt-get install as well as reinstall02:32
piepenguinbrat: iff you think, that youre getting crazy.., sorry it's me first!02:32
Eddieok02:32
jamestthewayofzen , search about how to make debian pkds02:32
nickrudjamest, I like epiphany, have for years02:32
mc|ambcef: thanks, i'm running ubuntu. only trying to access my other comp ;)02:32
jamestthewayofzen , why not build from source02:32
darkarchoneedge, i have to say, i only left 17gigs for windows. of 200gigs.02:32
jamestnickrud , its like 2 years old... perhaps 102:32
Eddiegetting the same even with -f02:33
darkarchonabout 140 for the root filesystem under gentoo :02:33
jamestbut its your opinion02:33
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nickrudjamest, ok, I started with galeon02:33
jamestEddie , you need to rebuild your repositories02:33
cefmc|amb: yeah I guessed *grin*02:33
nickrudjamest, true.02:33
jamestnickrud , ahh those were the days02:33
thewayofzenjamest, ive been trying all evening to get the latest blackbox build working on my machine.. and im without success. ive googled my but off and begged for help.. clearly its outside my skills.. i was hoping it would be added to backports as it fixes alot of what i think are signifigant bugs in the wm02:33
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tonyyarussoEddie: These are suggestions of stuff that might work; when I had this problem I had messed it up worse, and I was just getting started, so I ended up just redoing the entire installation, although that's probably not as practical now in your situation.02:33
penguinbratpie: lol - no prob, it was just getting frustrating trying to figure out what was going on - but thats the norm with simple chat  - no worries ;-)02:33
penguinbratpie: is everything working?02:33
Eddiejamest: apt-get update?02:33
jamestthewayofzen , apparently not02:33
thewayofzenjamest, ive tried to compile it from source.. tried cvs.. tried building a deb with checkinstall and no success02:33
jamestEddie , yes but thats just updating old ones...when you get the old shit...i would dapper it02:33
nickrudjamest, supposedly the few remaining galeon guys are going to fold some stuff into extensions for epiphany, so maybe ...02:33
jamestdapper is not a big deal02:34
Eddiejamest: so long as it doesnt break02:34
Eddieand works02:34
jamestnickrud , :)02:34
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Eddieim fine with it02:34
jamestEddie , i'm using it02:34
Eddiebut Im not a debugger02:34
Eddieok02:34
jamestyou don't need to be02:34
Eddieyou wanna hit me with some dapper sources02:34
jamestEddie , plus you can always downgrade after you upgrade right02:34
piepenguinbrat: gess...02:34
Eddieso i can paste them into sources.list02:34
jamestEddie , change the breezy to dapper02:34
jamestthats all lol02:34
penguinbratpie: lol - whats it saying?02:34
Eddieok02:34
Eddiebrilliant02:34
jamestEddie and do a clean02:34
jamesti like this community02:35
jamest:)02:35
jamesti remember when i was learning FBSD before devo ... they aren't the nicest02:35
jamestbut now i get to say RTFM!!02:35
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cevizoglu!rtfm02:35
ubotuit has been said that rtfm is Read The "Fine" Manual02:35
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penguinbratlol02:35
jamest!RTFMFP02:35
ubotuNot a clue, jamest02:35
cevizogluand fine it is02:35
jamestdamnit02:35
braddhey guys.. I  just installed ubuntu on a ibm thinkpad laptop.. the specs for the laptop say the cpu is a p3 1133Mhz, but cat /proc/cpuinfo sez 'Mhz : 732.765'.. any ideas?02:35
jamestthat means...read the fucking manual fucking please :-D02:36
cevizoglufriendly too02:36
jamestbradd , YES!02:36
crimsunbradd: it's a speedstep chipset02:36
jamestbradd , lol...yep...02:36
jamestbradd , but it will go up with usage02:36
jamestthere are new funky scripts that allow for that02:36
Eddieok02:36
jamestit uses what it needs02:36
piepenguinbrat: Somehow it all just past bey...02:36
Eddiei did a dist-upgrade02:36
Eddieand all it did was update a few packages02:36
jamestEddie , i'm proud of you02:36
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Eddielike beep for instance rofl02:36
braddok, thats good to know.. I was worried for a second..02:36
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Eddiestill got the ubuntu-desktop problem, apt is refusing to install it without a fight02:37
jamestbradd , no worries... you could always overclock in the depricated /proc02:37
tonyyarussoEddie: I looked at your pastebin, and was wondering if you've tried adding all of those dependencies to your apt install list?02:37
Eddieits worth a shot02:37
Eddielets see here02:37
jamestEddie , he makes a good point too02:37
penguinbratbradd: their may be some automatic settings that the cpu does, and the windoze driver undoes them - like on the toshiba satellites the screen dims automaticallys and you have to run a command to change it back to full brightness....02:37
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jamesti know ports better than apt02:37
ecobuntu!dvd02:37
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2 which you can obtain by installing 'libdvdread3' and then running 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'02:37
DShepherdI added a new user.  ubuntu doesnt detect my sound card02:37
gleesondI'm not shure what to use to extract and install the .deb file?02:37
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cevizoglu!rtgfm02:38
ubotuRTGFM is read the God-forsaken manual!02:38
Eddieok02:38
penguinbratbradd: I would do a search on google about you laptop and linux...02:38
jamestbradd , but you can stop the scripts02:38
Eddiei just get more deps02:38
DShepherddoes anyone know why that happends02:38
Eddieand conflicts too02:38
DShepherdhappens?02:38
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jamestEddie , i would just run it until you notice any problems02:38
jamestto be honest02:38
jamestlol02:38
cevizoglusorry, I'm feeling sick and not in my right mind ;)02:38
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braddok, I'll google up on my hardware just to be in the know02:38
Eddiedont i need ubuntu-desktop though?02:38
penguinbratpie: what happened?02:38
jamestEddie , i'm a freebsd guy... so i don't know...i would man dpkg and man apt-get02:38
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jamestEddie , i know you can rebuild the whole repository with dpkg though02:39
jamestthats what you need to do02:39
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Eddieid love to know how lol02:39
aeon17x!alsa02:39
ubotufrom memory, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206302:39
n0odl3uhh does anyone know how to compile source coude?02:39
doogluswhen building a kernel, how do I get it to make vesafb.ko available in the initrd?02:39
Eddieits like 2am here02:39
DShepherdI added a new user.  ubuntu doesnt detect my sound card. Does anyone know why that happens and how I can fix it?02:39
Eddien0odl3: ./configure ; make ; make install02:39
cefDShepherd: you need to add them to the audio group so that they can access audio devices.. same goes for other device groups for similar problems. look at the first users groups, but remember, you don't want to give the user all those groups02:39
nickrudDShepherd, take a look at the groups for your first user, and then the new user. You need to add a few groups, I think02:39
moparfan90hello something is wrong with my ubuntu box.. when i boot it takes like 2 min longer then normal    i cant open firefox or delete files???02:39
aeon17xHoly crap... DShepherd, we have the same problem.02:39
n0odl3everytime i try to compile helloworld.cpp i get a really long list of errors02:39
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jamestEddie , ok i think i h ave it02:39
penguinbratdooglus: if your compiling manually - dont make it a module =)02:39
tonyyarussoapt question: Is it possible to tell apt to ignore dependencies when removing a package, and only do the one you specified?  (For instance if you were planning to reinstall it later, but were working from the command line.)02:39
DShepherdaeon17x: really? kool, i;m not alone02:39
jamestEddie , do a locate ubuntu-desktop02:40
n0odl3Eddie:what do you mean?02:40
DShepherdaeon17x: have you learned anything02:40
piepenguinbrat: I got dizzy.., just fell on the floor for a moment, but: I just got up! Raedy for a new round..?02:40
n0odl3Eddie: i tried using make helloworld.cpp02:40
Eddiejamest: nothing found02:40
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aeon17xI haven't yet.02:40
DShepherdnickrud: what groups? and what if your adding then via command line?02:40
aeon17x=/02:40
jamestEddie , hmm lets see02:40
cefDShepherd: look at my last response02:40
jamestbecause we need to find the pkgs02:40
penguinbratpie: lol, yeah - for a little need to get something to eat my self =P02:40
jamestyou can do a dpkg reinst-required02:40
DShepherdcef: oh ok02:41
nickrudDShepherd, type groups in a terminal; then adduser <new user> <group> for each group you want new user to belong to.02:41
doogluspenguinbrat: whether I make it a module or not it still doesn't seem to get into initrd02:41
EddieI get a whole load of crap02:41
Eddiethen E: broken packages02:41
nickrudDShepherd, sorry, first command is groups <first user>02:41
jamestdamnit02:41
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doogluspenguinbrat: and I'm not compiling manually, I'm using make-kpkg02:41
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doogluspenguinbrat: do you know how the official ubuntu kernel .deb is made?02:41
piepenguinbrat: Is there a other way to acces to the 2e h-disk ?02:41
EddieI really cant be bothered reinstalling02:41
penguinbratdooglus: something else is wrong then - cuz if it's static, its in the kernel before the initrd is loaded...02:41
crimsundooglus: using dpatches.02:42
aeon17xDShepherd: they're right, just go to System > Administration > Users and Groups, and add yourself to the audio group.02:42
jamestEddie , perhaps completely remove ubuntu-desktop02:42
jamestand reinstall02:42
Eddieit is removed02:42
aeon17xDShepherd: I suppose adding yourself to other groups wouldn't hurt.02:42
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Eddiethats the problem02:42
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piepenguinbrat: Or shout I reboot..?02:42
nickrudDShepherd, you'll need to log out and back in for the new groups to be recognized02:42
penguinbratpie: no - did you try to 'mount /mnt/storage' with out the sudo cmd?02:42
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Eddieim running gnome right now but ive no idea if itd come up if i rebooted02:42
DShepherdthanks nickrud, cef will try your solution. Man. Ubuntu .....security is tough. Ok aeon17x02:42
cgen0odl3, can't you do g++ helloworld.cpp -o helloworld?02:42
jamestEddie , ahh i see02:42
Nihil85hallo02:42
Eddieone way to find out02:42
jamestubuntu-desktop is like...the whole shabang for x02:42
piepenguinbrat: yes yes02:42
Eddiecontrol alt and backspace02:43
jamestEddie , yes...i would uninstall all of it02:43
jamestBUT! DO NOT PURGE02:43
aeon17xOr... modify your user properties itself.02:43
jamestjust uninstall and then reinstall02:43
solidgroovecan you turn on animated progress bars and set the gnome bar transpearent?02:43
aeon17xMost likely, your setting got whacked.02:43
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Eddieit was in the middle of removing ubuntu-desktop when i hit control and c02:43
eedgeAnyone managed to get skype working through a proxy?02:43
doogluscrimsun: is there any documentation I can read about how the official kernel build is done?02:43
Eddiebrb!02:43
penguinbratpie: you should be able to write to it now - thats what the users option did, enabling you to mount it...02:43
crimsundooglus: download the source for linux-image-$(uname -r) and look in the debian/patches dir02:43
penguinbratpie: try 'echo asdlkfh > /mnt/storage/x'02:43
crimsundooglus: for compilation, read debian/rules02:43
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aeon17xAnd all I did was create accounts for my sisters... >_>02:44
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nickrudaeon17x, welcome to sys admin :)02:44
piepenguinbrat: the echo give un-known02:44
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doogluscrimsun: debian/rules seems to be a makefile.  is that the closest we have to docs?02:45
Eddiejamest: ok whatever it has deleted02:45
piepenguinbrat: the echo give un-known file or map02:45
penguinbratpie: typo or something try 'touch /mnt/storage/x'02:45
Eddiejamest: its not causing me problems so far02:45
Eddiei restarted x02:45
humbolthow can I make the changes I make to my alps touchpad behavior via qsynaptics persistant?02:45
Eddielogged back in02:45
Eddieall is ok02:45
Eddieit deleted a few files before i could hit control and c02:45
penguinbratpie: or map????02:45
Eddiei heard the hdd crunching02:45
humboltmaybe I can find the current settings somewhere somehow?!02:45
Eddiebut i can use gnome02:45
Eddieso i think im ok02:45
Eddieish02:45
piepenguinbrat: result acces refused!02:45
benplautanyone know where conky's .conkyrc is held?02:46
EddieSo people, can someone please tell me a program i can easily apt-get that will allow me to play itunes podcasts02:46
crimsundooglus: pretty much.02:46
EddieI miss my fix of conspiracy theory02:46
durthumbolt: you mean after restarting X? you have to change the settings in xorg.conf02:46
tonyyarussoAnother issue: I'm trying to install the package configure-thinkpad, which I downloaded as a .gz.  When I run through the ./configure process I get an error spit out in the terminal saying the C compiler (gcc) can not create executables.  What's up with that?02:46
crimsundooglus: the principles are outlined in the make-kpkg documentation, though they differ02:46
doogluscrimsun: even if I read that makefile, it won't tell me what arguments are used in the official build02:46
Nihil85i red over the web that my VIA chipset under Linux give problems because of the AGP port. It's true because sometimes my OS freezes and only the pointer is active. What can i do if the VIA didn't release any upgrade for the bios?02:46
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crimsundooglus: "arguments"?02:47
tonyyarussoEddie: Would VLC do that maybe?02:47
durtbenplaut: ~/.conkyrc02:47
eedgeAnyone here managed to get linux skype working through a proxy?02:47
humboltdurt: yes but how can I find out, to what qsynaptics changed the settings when I finally tweaked the system to my expectations?02:47
benplautthanks02:47
doogluscrimsun: to compile the kernel, I guess some command is run.  and that command has command line arguments.02:47
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piepenguinbrat: result cannot touch /mnt/storage/x : acces refused!02:47
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crimsundooglus: fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs02:47
n0odl3cge: i try to use g++ but it keeps giving me a long list of errors02:47
doogluscrimsun: like make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version, and so on02:47
tonyyarussoDoes apt-get have a reinstall function from within the command line like Synaptic does?02:48
darkarchonpie, what about doing it as root?02:48
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jamestEddie , sorry i missed that02:48
jamestthings wend ok02:48
ceftonyyarusso: 'apt-get install --reinstall package02:48
humboltdurt: I sure will not change the config then check what happens by x restart then change, then restart and check again?! I am not cracy!02:48
crimsundooglus: it uses standard devscripts02:48
benplautdurt: is one created by default, or do i have to make a file with that name?02:48
piepenguinbrat: sorry, but how do I get to the root frm here?02:48
benplautnot finding it...02:48
Eddietonyyarusso: you got me02:48
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Eddietonyyarusso: beep-media-player wont02:48
jamestEddie , what does google say?02:49
penguinbratpie: just put the sudo cmd before the other cmd you are trying...02:49
aeon17xThat's ironic though... being an admin and getting locked out of your own system.02:49
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tonyyarussocef: Thanks.02:49
humboltdurt: is there a way to read the actual settings, so I can put them in the xorg.conf?02:49
Eddiecould someone go to http://www.abovetopsecret.com and see if they can play the podcast on their ubuntu02:49
ceftonyyarusso: no probs02:49
cgen0odl3, could you post the errors in #flood?02:49
durtbenplaut: untar and move this to .conkyrc: /usr/share/doc/conky/examples/conkyrc.sample.gz02:49
jamesteveryone!!02:49
benplautthanks02:49
jamestdo an apt-get moo!02:49
jamestdo an apt-get moo02:49
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jamestrather02:49
tonyyarussoEddie: What sort of format are those things anyway?02:49
Nihil85hello02:49
nickrud:)02:49
Nihil85i red over the web that my VIA chipset under Linux give problems because of the AGP port. It's true because sometimes my OS freezes and only the pointer is active. What can i do if the VIA didn't release any upgrade for the bios?02:49
jamest!apt-get moo02:49
ubotujamest: Syntax error in line 102:49
eedgeAnyone here managed to get linux skype working through a proxy?02:49
durthumbolt: i dont know, i guess you oughta look it up and experiment02:49
piepenguinbrat: no errors so far..02:50
jamest!syntax your mom!02:50
ubotuNot a clue, jamest02:50
Eddietonyyarusso: probably just standard streaming mp3, but ill be damned if i can fild the url of the file02:50
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Eddieits all propriety itunes bollocks02:50
piepenguinbrat: shout  there be any result..?02:50
durthumbolt: what do you want the settings to be?02:50
crimsunNihil85: disable agp acceleration02:50
crimsunNihil85: there's documentation in the nvidia-glx package02:50
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penguinbratpie: with the touch or echo commands no - just an empty file now under /mnt/storage02:50
penguinbratpie: ... called 'x'02:50
Nihil85crimsun, but in that way i will loose all my 3d acceleration... it's not good02:51
aeon17xcrimsun: He's talking about a VIA card, I think.02:51
birdcan anyone help me with photoshop? i need to get the fonts to work02:51
n0odl3can anyone tell me whats wrong with my coding?02:51
aeon17xbird: photoshop?02:51
Nihil85aeon17x, i have also a nvidia graphic card, but it isn't the problem, i red over the net02:51
birdaeon17x, ya i got it to run with wine02:51
doogluscrimsun: when I install the pre-built ubuntu breezy kernel, a directory /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/initrd/ gets created containing 2 .ko files.  when I build my own kernel using ubuntu kernel sources, it doesn't, and the system boots to a black screen.02:51
tonyyarussoEddie: Do you have any way of accessing them currently?  I'm not really sure how that stuff works, but if we can figure out how to get at it you could try some stuff.  I'm just suggesting VLC because it seems to play everything I need, including an aacPlus stream from a radio station, which I thought might be what iTunes used.02:52
humboltdurt: what do I have this qsynaptics app for? I turn the switches there and it makes the touchpad behave! but when I am done, I want to know the settings. How can I get them out of the program02:52
doogluscrimsun: I'm trying to find out how to get those two .ko files build and installed with my kernel02:52
birdaeon17x but now it says that i dont have the right font to use the text tool02:52
Eddieok ill give vlc a try02:52
piepenguinbrat: well..., ther is the x-file, but is it on the 2e harddisk? This suppose to be mounted overher wright?02:52
n0odl3cge: no one is here in this channel02:52
EddieThe following packages have unmet dependencies: vlc: Depends: libfribidi0 (02:52
Eddieetc etc02:52
penguinbratbird: just copy all the fonts from the windoze partition(s) to where ever your c_drive is, prolly under your home dir somewhere...02:52
EddieFFS02:52
aeon17xbird: Well, wine doesn't do everything windows does, so you can't expect it to get it right.02:52
crimsundooglus: man mkinitramfs02:52
Eddieis not going to be installed?!02:52
Eddiewhy not just install it and quit whining02:52
aeon17x!windowsfonts02:52
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, aeon17x02:52
aeon17x!fonts02:53
ubotuI heard fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto02:53
tonyyarussoIck.  Even after reinstallation something is still broken with gnome-app-install.  Thoughts??02:53
n0odl3cge: im in #flooding right now02:53
GTroyis easy ubuntu a REALLY, REALLY bad idea?02:53
cgen0odl3, Oh, I am in #flood02:53
birdpenguinbrat my _drive?02:53
birdpenguinbrat my c_drive?02:53
crimsunaeon17x: he's not, he's referring to his motherboard. I owned a VIA KT133A at one point and have experienced it myself.02:53
doogluscrimsun: when should I run mkinitramfs?  or should debian/rules run that for me?02:53
birdoh with wine?02:53
birdokey02:53
penguinbratpie: if you run the df command, it should say that /dev/[device]  is mounted under /mnt/storage with such in such percentage full, availiable, etc... you could also simply 'umount /mnt/storage' and see if it still there...02:54
crimsundooglus: after you've compiled and installed (but not booted into) the new kernel02:54
tonyyarussoEddie: Check the VLC site (1st result if you google it) and add their repository to your apt list, and then I think all of the dependencies will be covered.02:54
Eddieok02:54
crimsunNihil85: then just use 1x accel02:54
nickrudGTroy, some people call it an automated ubuntuguide.org02:54
durthumbolt: i dont know the answer to that; the best way to set up your touchpad is to read stuff like README.alps02:54
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penguinbratbird: the 'c_drive' is where wine pretends c: is at... check under ~/.wine, it should be a directory atleast...02:55
humboltdurt: synclient -l02:55
n0odl3cge: im in flood right now to02:55
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Nihil85crimsun, what's a lx accel?02:55
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tonyyarusso!botinstructions02:55
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, tonyyarusso02:55
Eddietonyyarusso: still getting the errors02:55
cgen0odl3, Hmmm... I have no idea.02:55
humboltdurt: no, README.alps is outdated! You do not need to patch the kernel anymore. That is already done by ubuntu team as it seems.02:55
radixis anyone familiar with the way ubuntu packages zope/02:56
radixerr, zope/plone02:56
n0odl3cge: there is nothing wrong with  my code?02:56
tonyyarussoEddie: Try throwing in the Debian unstable main archive too.02:56
n0odl3cge: is there a certain i have to do to compile with g++?02:56
n0odl3cge: the code i pasted is c++02:56
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durthumbolt, no i meant look at the example configuration02:56
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cansacould i get a hand doing this please http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html02:57
tonyyarussoAre there other C compilers I could try if gcc is having trouble creating executables?02:57
Eddietonyyarusso: you sure thats wise?02:57
cgen0odl3, No, I believe g++ should compile it. I haven't used c++ very much though - so it is probably an error with the code, or with the installation of g++.02:57
thoreauputictonyyarusso:  install build-essential02:57
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Eddiei could end up with a bastard halfbreed vanilla debian / ubuntu install02:57
chuck87hi!02:57
tonyyarussoEddie: For specific things it's usually okay, just comment it out again before doing an apt-get upgrade or anything like that.02:57
chuck87i have a problem with skype02:57
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chuck87it appears when i wanna talk : /dev/dsp-1: Device or resource busy02:58
chuck87somebody know what is?02:58
eedgeAnyone here managed to get linux skype working through a proxy?02:58
penguinbratchuck87: use alsa, it looks as though you may be using oss instead...02:58
tonyyarussothoreauputic: And what exactly will that package do?02:58
bur[n] erthrough a proxy?  why for?02:58
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thoreauputictonyyarusso:  apt-cache show build-essential  to see :)02:58
eedgebecause all my internet is going through an internet proxy.02:58
cgen0odl3, You have end1 instead of endl02:58
jamesteedge , thats kind of hard02:58
chuck87penguinbrat: how can i install alsa?02:59
bur[n] ereedge: why?02:59
chuck87o how i can enable?02:59
EddieE: Type 'unstable' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list02:59
jamestchuck87 , apt-get install alsa02:59
piepenguinbrat: If I use the df command ans=d check if /dev/hdd or hdc I'll get the same amount of percentage, this can not be! both give 56%..02:59
thoreauputictonyyarusso: the error you are seeing is generally cured by that package02:59
chuck87oks let me see02:59
Eddieone hurdle after another lol02:59
eedgeer... because my wireless card isn't support by linux? thats one reason.02:59
cgen0odl3, But with that changed it compiles on my computer.02:59
eedgeso I just hooked it up to my win2k webserver.02:59
FlannelKingAnyone know anything about EVMS? or what device dm-7 might be?02:59
darkarchoneedge, urx. wlan and linux is... :/ fail02:59
eedgewhich has a proxy server running on it.02:59
dabaREddie: well, if you are in ubuntu, there is no unstable. paste your /etc/apt/sources.list ono paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:59
nickrudEddie, maybe you should do, as dabaR said :)03:00
tonyyarussothoreauputic: Looks worth a shot, I'll go try the other install again then.03:00
chuck87jamest: i have it already install03:00
darkarchon2.6.14 kernel has new stuff for wlan implented03:00
cansathoreauputic, , can i use ur brain if u get a min03:00
eedgehasn't causes any other problems.03:00
darkarchonmore drivers03:00
darkarchon:S03:00
eedgebut skype.03:00
dabaRcansa: he cant even use it himself.:))03:00
cansawlol03:00
chuck87jamest: i have it already install03:00
n0odl3cge:what do i need for g++03:00
thoreauputiccansa: just ask in channel - if someone can help they will03:00
penguinbratchuck87: search for alsa in the synaptic pac man, install alsa-base, alsa-oss, alsa-utils03:00
cgen0odl3, Do you have libstdc++ installed?03:00
n0odl3cge: how do i get g++03:00
cansaare u offering to take his place dabaR ?03:00
chuck87oks03:00
chuck87penguinbrat: oks!03:01
thoreauputicdabaR: hey watch it! *g*03:01
dabaRcansa: ask already:)] 03:01
n0odl3cge: whats that?03:01
cansahaving trouble with http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html03:01
durtis there a config file to change the font colors in geany?03:01
eedgeis it possible to skype through a proxy?03:01
Eddiehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/405403:01
piepenguinbrat: it doen't any mather witch device I type, they all give 56%.., MAMMA!03:01
dabaRn0odl3: what do you need g++ for?03:01
cgen0odl3, the includes are in something like libstdc++6-4.0-dev (or maybe 5).03:01
Eddieah!03:02
Eddiethose comments perhaps03:02
nickrudoh, my my03:02
dabaREddie: who made that?03:02
EddiedabaR: everyones been fiddling with it03:02
penguinbratpie: dont give it any arguments, just df by itself...03:02
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chuck87penguinbrat: i install it both03:02
tonyyarussothoreauputic: That fixed the first problem, but now I'm getting another.  I'll put it in flood; let me know if you can help with that too.03:02
dabaRor something less violent03:02
n0odl3cge: how do i get that?03:02
n0odl3dabaR: I want to learn how to prgram c++ therefore i need a compiler03:02
n0odl3cge: how do i get libstdc++?03:02
chuck87penguinbrat: let me prove03:02
crimsunNihil85: that's 1x (as in one 'x', not el x)03:02
cgen0odl3, sudo apt-get install libstdc++6-dev03:02
dabaRn0odl3: sudo aptitude install build-essential installs a c++ compiler03:03
Eddiefixed it now03:03
jamestEddie, attaboy :-p03:03
Eddiebut im still no closer to hearing my podcast03:03
dabaRcge: what are you talking about at all, whts that for anyhow? not a c++ compiler...03:03
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jamestyes but this near ubuntu death experience will teach you03:03
jamestwon't it03:03
durtn0odl3: g++ is the c++ compiler03:03
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NeiI could log out and in all the time just to look at Entrance xD03:03
piepenguinbrat: with this argument it gives: df /dev /hd*  two devices03:03
penguinbratchuck87, no need to - did you have the alsa-oss installed?03:03
cgedabaR, Oh - I thought that was needed for g++ to work.03:03
Eddiejamest: ive been here before, up to 3am reinstalling debian slink because X died on me03:04
Eddiejamest: except these days, im not a computer hobbyist anymore, i dont care enough to fix it03:04
eedgeis it possible to skype through a proxy?03:04
dabaRcge: no, the build-essential package installs everything(perhaps even that)03:04
tonyyarussoEddie: I wasn't really following that; what ended up working?03:04
chuck87penguinbrat: yes i already install it03:04
Eddiejamest: i just want it to work for my emails, music and general crap03:04
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Eddietonyyarusso: nothing really, the unstable sources worked, but installing vlc still didnt, square one with a thud03:04
cgedabaR, n0odl3 : Ah yes - build-essential should install it.03:04
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cansai hate my usb modem..... some one fix it03:04
doogluscrimsun: the kernel .deb package contains the ./lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/initrd/vesafb.ko03:05
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cgen0odl3 : Sorry, my information is really out of date.03:05
Eddieive a spare ethernet modem03:05
n0odl3cge: there are several libstdc++6-dev03:05
cansadcc it to me Eddie03:05
dooglusfile - surely the mkinitramfs program won't change the .deb file will it?03:05
piepenguinbrat: df? it gives a new harddisk..03:05
Eddieim considering using it as an oversized tee for indoor golf03:05
cgen0odl3, ignore what I said about libstdc++03:05
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cgen0odl3, just install build-essential.03:05
penguinbratchuck87: well basically what is going on is that another program (prolly the window manager) is already using the /dev/dsp which I think is oss, alsa handles multiple apps using the sounds card while oss doesnt... Thats where I was heading whith all of that... is there a way to see if skype is using oss or alsa, and if so change it?03:05
cansai cant get my usb modem to work in ubuntu03:05
crimsundooglus: you need to generate your own, because you're not using the default kernel03:05
cansaim using ics on my laptop atm.....03:06
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n0odl3cge: i did get build essential03:06
penguinbratpie: what do you mean it gives a new harddisk?03:06
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doogluscrimsun: I want to know how the official kernel is built, so that I can build one of my own just like it.  is that possible?03:06
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dabaRn0odl3: gcc blah.cpp03:06
n0odl3cge: this is what happened (look in flood03:06
tonyyarussoEddie:  Shoot.  That's odd, because I installed the same thing fairly recently.03:06
crimsundooglus: I just told you..03:06
piepenguinbrat: So it shout works, it's there But how to acces..03:06
slewwhat is the package i need to compile programs? devtools or something?03:06
crimsundooglus: debian/rules is invoked to create debs03:06
doogluscrimsun: I want my kernel .deb file to include ./lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/initrd/vesafb.ko , just like the official one does.03:06
piepenguinbrat: So it shout works, it's there But how to acces..The new Harddisk has a differend number03:06
n0odl3cge: i figured it out03:07
crimsundooglus: then generate an initramfs03:07
penguinbratpie: use the sudo command for now to access it...03:07
chuck87penguinbrat: no, theres no option to change it, but on my sound setting i have "Autodetect", do i need to change it?03:07
jamestdooglus , dude just build it yourself03:07
n0odl3cge: i put .h after <iostream>03:07
jamestor use kernel package03:07
crimsunslew: build-essential03:07
piepenguinbrat: yehh..?03:07
slewcrimsun, thanks03:08
dooglusjamest: I've used kernel-package, but it doesn't include the vesafb.ko file in the .deb it makes03:08
penguinbratchuck87: if you can change it, and it can handle alsa natively yeah... you may just try changing autodetect to alsa and see if it works =)03:08
dabaRn0odl3: /j #c++03:08
piepenguinbrat: how do i give the user acces to it?03:08
crimsundooglus: that's because you didn't invoke it to generate an initramfs03:08
crimsundooglus: so you have to do it afterward03:08
doogluscrimsun: how do I invoke it to generate an initramfs?03:08
penguinbratpie: lol - thats what I was trying to do earlier with making the directory and chaning the permisions on it...03:08
EarthenI want to delete all files and folders with the word wedmin in ti from command line anyonw know how to do that03:09
chuck87penguinbrat: it has a option that says: " Full duplex" on sound settings do i need to enable?03:09
crimsundooglus: read the man page for make-kpkg, like I said 15 minutes ago03:09
doogluscrimsun: I have done03:09
piepenguinbrat: Tell me again pelaaaaaaase!!!!!03:09
dooglusthere's no mention of initramfs in the man page03:09
penguinbratchuck87: I'm pretty sure alsa is full duplex whether or not the card is (could be wrong), I would go ahead and set it to see what happens...03:10
jamestpenguinbrat , you got your handsful...they should promote you to devo03:10
jamestthis is like me in fbsd or gentoo03:10
jamestor macos x03:10
jamestlol03:10
chuck87penguinbrat: thanx! :D03:10
slewubuntu comes with gtk, right?03:10
jamestslew, if you have gnome03:11
jamestbut yes03:11
crimsundooglus: initrd is mentioned, correct?03:11
Neiwhat's the proper way to set my system language, for example the language gnome uses?03:11
slewyah have gnome, but i have this: checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 1.3.13 gnet-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.03:11
penguinbratpie: 'sudo mkdir /mnt/storage/drv2' 'sudo chown [username:username]  /mnt/storage/drv2'03:11
crimsunpenguinbrat: the card determines whether full duplex is supported.03:11
dabaRn0odl3: ask there, they said newbie questions are fine.,03:11
doogluscrimsun: yes.  I used the --initrd option.  it didn't include the initrd/vesafb.ko file in the .deb it made.03:12
jamestpie , add a recursive param to that03:12
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crimsundooglus: because initrd != initramfs03:12
dabaRn0odl3: you wouldnt ask how to install something on ubuntu there, but anything regarding the code itself, and what not, ask them, they know.03:12
tonyyarussoNei: If you're trying to change the default system language, System>Administration>Language Selector03:12
doogluscrimsun: and so...?03:12
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Neitonyyarusso, I just want to change my own account language03:13
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crimsundooglus: and so generate the initramfs after you have compiled the kernel03:13
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Octaneis there a way to "print screen" like in windows03:13
tonyyarussoNei: Otherwise, you can edit ~/.profile03:13
HrdwrBoByes03:13
cansahaving trouble with http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html any help?03:13
HrdwrBoBpress printscreen03:13
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HrdwrBoB:O03:13
jamest!head03:13
ubotuNo idea, jamest03:13
stimpieOctane, just press "print screen"03:13
davidpelaezhello everyone. I've just intalled ubunto 5.04 ten minutes ago03:13
penguinbratcrimsun: true - but a while ago something I did in kde broke that rule I think, but like I said I could be wrong... I just know that because windoze or the hardware says it cant do something, I dont put it past linux to make it happen ;-)03:13
jamest!yak03:13
ubotujamest: Bugger all, i dunno03:13
Octanestimpie: can i paste it in gimp?03:13
jamest!define yak a bitchy teenager from weston mass03:13
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, jamest03:13
bobbyso...about updating from 5.04 to 5.10 ... is it just a straight dist-upgrade?03:13
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jamest!define03:13
ubotuNot a clue, jamest03:14
Silencer-yak a bitchy teenager from weston mass-03:14
solidgroovedavidpelaez, why not 5.10?03:14
SilencerSorry, yak a bitchy teenager from weston mass not found!03:14
SilencerSorry, you need to input a word!03:14
davidpelaezbecause i did not know it03:14
Octaneits not working03:14
dabaR!+msg the bot03:14
ubotumsg the bot is, like, please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. /msg ubotu keyword, or especially if you do not know whether some factoid exists.03:14
Octanei hit prntscrn and then try to paste in Krita, and it doesnt wor03:14
davidpelaezbut it did not ask me root password?? wich one is it???03:14
Octanek03:14
jamestdabaR, sorry i just couldn't resist03:14
solidgrooveunder system menu there is take screenshot03:14
davidpelaezit asked for a new user, not for root password03:14
penguinbratjamest: lol - tell me about, I just logged on to ask about some corrupt packages on the reporitories and started throwing in my 2 cents worth =P what is a devo anyhow?03:14
e0fhi guys, i've got a problem with my ubuntu breezy box, i don't know why the breezy repository don't work, anyone that help me?03:14
dabaRjamest: whos bot is Silencer ?03:14
doogluscrimsun: I'm sorry, but I'm not following you.  should I use make-kpkg or debian/rules?  and does initramfs add .ko files to the kernel .deb or not?03:15
jamestpenguinbrat , developing team03:15
jamestno idea :)03:15
tonyyarussoNei: Add lines similar to LANGUAGE="fr_FR:fr"03:15
jamestnot mine03:15
tonyyarussoNei: LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8"03:15
crimsundooglus: you're not packaging it like Ubuntu does, so stop trying to03:15
penguinbratjamest: ahh...03:15
Neitonyyarusso, I'll try03:15
crimsundooglus: you'll probably find kernel-package easier03:15
davidpelaezhow can i get the password??? it shoul have asked it to me in the installation, did not it?03:15
jamestbut you have to be like a kernel hacker penguinbrat ...well thats not true03:16
jamestif you like documentation03:16
doogluscrimsun: that's exactly what I'm trying to do - I want to make a kernel package like the ubuntu one03:16
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penguinbratjamest: well its my only 2nd day on ubuntu, been on gentoo for the past couple of years...03:16
crimsundooglus: a deb is generated if you use kernel-package if that's what you're after03:16
FlannelKingAnyone know anything about EVMS? or what device dm-7 might be?03:16
jamestpenguinbrat !! yea03:16
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doogluscrimsun: is it impossible to package the kernel like ubuntu does?03:16
jamestgood old gentoo03:16
asonjay99hi, how do i network a linux computer to a windows computer03:16
tonyyarussoNei: That will change all of the Gnome stuff (on your next login), but doesn't affect the terminal.03:16
jamesti love it03:16
jamesti put it on my macosx install03:16
Neitonyyarusso, It doesn't work though :/03:16
n0odl3i just downloaded some source code for zsnes1.42... how do i build the source?03:16
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crimsundooglus: no, it's not impossible, it's just nonsensical for what you're trying to do03:16
NeiI just logged in again and gnome is still english03:17
penguinbratjamest: havent done much kernel hacking other than figuring out what is going with such n such driver or hacking with the rtc...03:17
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briguydhi, i'm a complete n00b at linux in general and am having a problem setting up hp printing03:17
e0fanyone that tell me why the breezy ubuntu repository don't work?03:17
NeiI wrote LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 in ~/.profile03:17
crimsundooglus: just build a deb using make-kpkg, then install it, then generate the initrd03:17
durtasonjay99: samba03:17
doogluscrimsun: I'm trying to make a single package that can be installed in a single shot.  I don't want the installation instructions to be any more than "get this .deb and dpkg -i it"03:17
tonyyarussoNei: Did you log out and back in yet?03:17
Neiyes I did03:17
asonjay99durt: what03:17
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penguinbratpie: did that stuff work?03:17
briguydim at http://localhost:631/printers and its asking for a login03:18
davidpelaezhow can i get my root password if it was not asked to me during the installation process?03:18
saniXe0f; it's working fine with me03:18
crimsundooglus: then read debian/rules03:18
crimsunyou keep making this way more complicated than it is03:18
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asonjay99durt: im prety new to linux03:18
jamestpenguinbrat , isn't that a bitch...you help em and they bolt03:18
penguinbratdavidpelaez: dont fear - I was like wtf too when I installed ubuntu... there is no root password, just use sudo for everything...03:18
doogluscrimsun: do you know how the ubuntu kernel is built?03:18
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crimsundooglus: I just explained it to you.03:18
durtasonjay99: you need samba, but i dont really know enough about it to help you much:P03:18
chuck87penguinbrat: do you already check it? :$03:18
penguinbratdavidpelaez: or if there is, it doesnt tell you, or give you the option of changing it03:18
jamestdavidpelaez , you can make one03:19
e0fsaniX, can i pm you?03:19
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penguinbratjamest: lol03:19
asonjay99durt: ok03:19
jamestpenguinbrat , sure you can03:19
doogluscrimsun: you did?  I thought you were telling me other ways to package it03:19
jamestlol03:19
briguydanyone know what to type when I'm at http://localhost:631/printers and its asking for a login?03:19
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jamestsudo root passwd03:19
Dk_useri not complete03:19
jamestthen you can su03:19
farruinnpenguinbrat: there is no root password at all by default03:19
crimsundooglus: dude, every single time I mention debian/rules is a clue03:19
Neitonyyarusso, I just added also a LANGUAGE=de_DE:de line but no avail (I did log out and in again)03:19
davidpelaezhow can i create one?03:19
penguinbratjamest: oh - well see there, complete newbie to ubuntu =P03:19
doogluscrimsun: that's a makefile.  what do you want me to do with it?03:19
Dk_userSu super user03:19
jamestdavidpelaez , i just wrote it... just do >>>> sudo passwd root03:19
crimsundooglus: you execute it.03:19
jamestenter your passwd03:20
jamestthen enter the new root03:20
penguinbratfarruinn: aparently there is, jamest just said there was, but I have no idea how to get to it and havent really to, just been using sudo for evberything...03:20
doogluscrimsun: which target should I build?  and what variables should I set?03:20
ecobuntuanyone running dapper?03:20
asonjay99can some one help me network my linux and windows machine03:20
nybbleanyone have an i810 video chipset?03:20
tonyyarussoNei: So you have both that I posted, and no results?03:20
briguydanyone know what to type when I'm at http://localhost:631/printers and its asking for a login?03:20
jamestpenguinbrat , its cool...so am i...its just old school style...sudo is brand new03:20
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Neitonyyarusso, yea :/03:20
crimsundooglus: obviously if you compile your own kernel, you have to be aware of the differences in patches that have already been applied (or not)03:20
spackohttp://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/03:20
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FlannelKingdapper?  dapper isn't much more than a thought at the moment03:20
jamestwell ont brand new03:20
ecobuntunybble:  what kind of computer?03:20
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jamestFlannelKing , i'm using it now03:20
crimsundooglus: you don't have to set any03:20
ecobuntuno dapper repositories are open03:20
briguydit says i type in my root info... but there isn't really any03:20
farruinnpenguinbrat: no, there isn't. There is a root users, yes, and you can set the root password with the command jamest gave you, but there is no root password preconfigured. That would be a major security risk03:20
ecobuntuit's unstable03:20
chuck87penguinbrat: do you already check it? :$03:20
nybblecompaq presario sr11 something03:20
davidpelaezbut there is no password, i try typing nothing and i says me that there a password problema03:20
doogluscrimsun: let's say I'm compiling the ubuntu sources as they stand03:20
penguinbratjamest: yep, I dont think Ive ever used sudo before, cept for setting it up for other users.. heh03:20
thoreauputicjamest: sudo has been around for about 25 years ;)03:20
nickrudbriguyd, you need to do sudo adduser cupsys shadow, and restart cupsys. you also need a root password03:21
Dk_userecobuntu nybble:  what kind of computer?<------- a dual core03:21
jamestyep03:21
jamestdavidpelaez , thats all you have to do...i do not undestand the problem03:21
watnouyawns03:21
nybbleDk_user: weirdo03:21
penguinbratchuck87: sry, check the sound card?03:21
briguydnickrud, umm, i have no idea what that means03:21
slewso if a program says that it cant gtk does that mean its not installed?03:21
tonyyarussoNei: Okay...  I have the exact same thing and it works fine.  So first, let's double-check the lines, in case I miscopied or something.03:21
nickrudbriguyd, a sec, I'll find the link03:21
briguydok03:21
farruinndavidpelaez: when you run sudo passwd root the first password you enter is your own password03:21
briguydthanks03:21
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chuck87penguinbrat: i don't understand! jaja, what in need to do?03:22
asonjay99does anyone know how to netowrk a windows and linux machine03:22
nybbleanyways, can anyone help me get my video resolution up?03:22
farruinndavidpelaez: then is says something like "Enter UNIX root password" where you enter the root password you want03:22
crimsundooglus: what aren't you clear about?03:22
Neitonyyarusso, ~/.profile right03:22
ecobuntu!troll03:22
ubotuecobuntu: Are you smoking crack?03:22
tonyyarussoNei: LANGUAGE="de_DE:de"03:22
davidpelaezit did not do that!03:22
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Dk_userYes03:22
thoreauputic!tell nybble about resolution03:22
tonyyarussoNei: LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8"03:22
nybblearleady looked at that03:22
crimsundooglus: the Ubuntu way requires a specific tarball location03:22
doogluscrimsun: I'm not clear how to build a kernel package that has the same contents as the ubuntu kernel package03:22
bur[n] erblast... why does openGL suck so bad in breezy :\  (i'm just venting)03:22
Neitonyyarusso, I'll replace it with de_DE03:22
davidpelaezit asks me for the pass, any idea of how to solve that. Couldn't it just setup a default password or something??03:23
nybblethoreauputic: already looked at that03:23
farruinndavidpelaez: it will say "password:" - this is _sudo_ asking for your _non_root_user_ password03:23
tonyyarussoNei: What did you have?03:23
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penguinbratchuck87: ive' nvr used skype before, but the easiest way since it seems to be using the oss method, is to diable any apps that are using the sound system, that should free it up... apps like esd or arts - the sound deamons for gnome and kde respectively...03:23
ecobuntuso the splash screen that appears when i load ubuntu...now says xubuntu after i installed the 686 kernel03:23
davidpelaezthis is not my first time with linux, i know it did not ask me for it. I typed "su" in my terminal and i asked me for the pass03:23
ecobuntuwierd....03:23
doogluscrimsun: which specific tarball?03:23
Neitonyyarusso, I have nearly exact those lines03:23
nickrudbriguyd, the web interface for cups is disabled in ubuntu; to enable it you need to do the commands ubotu told you about03:23
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davidpelaezhey,03:23
NeiLANGUAGE="de_DE:de"03:23
NeiLANG="de_DE.UTF-8"03:23
bur[n] erecobuntu: sure you didn't install xubuntu-desktop ?03:23
jamestdavidpelaez , what exactly appens when you do sudo passwd root03:23
davidpelaezit worked now03:23
ecobuntunot the GDM screen or the splash screen when i load in to GNOME03:23
davidpelaezthanks!!!03:23
crimsundooglus: ...the kernel source tarball03:23
farruinndavidpelaez: have you set a root password? You don't use su until you do03:23
jamestLOL03:23
jamesthahaah03:23
ecobuntuyup!03:23
briguydnickrud, ok, did that, now what do i type as the login?03:23
ecobuntuno xubuntu on here03:24
asonjay99can anyone help me newtork my windows and linux computers03:24
bur[n] erecobuntu: that's hte usplash screen03:24
ecobuntuok03:24
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davidpelaezfirst it gave an error, then i tried again with my passw and it asked for the new one, thanks03:24
doogluscrimsun: ok, I've got that.  what needs doing with the location of the tarball?03:24
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crimsundooglus: please, please read debian/rules.03:24
jamestdavidpelaez , no worries :) glad it worked03:24
ecobuntuso my usplash screen says ubuntu with the 386 kernel and xubuntu with the 686 kernel03:24
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Dk_userO.o03:24
spackohttp://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/03:24
davidpelaezcya, thank u03:24
doogluscrimsun: it's 2766 lines of opaque makefile03:24
JabbaHutI've been using SuSE & Fedora... but I am looking at Ubuntu. It look good so far... Seems to be quite popular.03:24
crimsundooglus: start reading03:25
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ecobunturpm...inferior to deb03:25
briguydha, nevermind03:25
briguydnickrud: thanks03:25
slewwhere is the pkg-config search path?03:25
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nickrudbriguyd, I checked, and I found what you did. no root needed :)03:25
Neitonyyarusso, there must be some other trick to this. I think this file is only for your bash shell03:25
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jamestpenguinbrat , its fun though to give back like this...i love doing this03:25
penguinbratjamest: i agree, but I will say that I have nvr been on any chat room as busy as this for any of the distro's...03:26
jamestME NEITHER!03:26
penguinbratjamest: n=P03:26
tonyyarussoNei: Okay, maybe give it one more full logout shot, and if that doesn't work, I wasn't entirely sure about which file did it, so try copying ~/.profile to ~/.login and ~/.gnomerc  (.gnomerc is probably it - we got success on this before only after some experimentation)03:26
nickrudo-003:26
dabaR!+enter03:26
ubotudon't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!03:26
ecobuntupenguinbrat:  do to #debian03:26
ecobuntui bet there are more people03:26
tritiumbravo, dabaR :)03:26
ecobuntuyup 730 in debian03:27
ecobuntu566 in ubunt03:27
ecobuntuu03:27
treitterhas anyone built X.org from source recently?03:27
dabaRcrimsun: do I have general permission to change factoids? if they are still good imo...03:27
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naliothnickrud: you old miscreant03:27
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slewwhere is the pkg-config search path?03:27
nickrudhi nalioth03:27
darkarchonhow many in gentoo o?03:27
Neitonyyarusso, still english03:27
crimsundabaR: I don't see why anyone wouldn't03:27
penguinbratecobuntu: ubuntu is my first exposure to debian, the last time I tried debian was a few years ago and it seemed it was way out of date, prolly something I was doing though =P03:27
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FlannelKingjust like it says, two.03:27
nickrudslew, that means you need a -dev package or two03:27
ecobuntuwell debian is kind of slow unless you run sid03:27
dabaRcrimsun: I mean, some of the bob2 ones:)) like the enter...03:27
darkarchonecobuntu, not really03:28
piepenguinbrat: The disk is there, but as a user I can not get any acces to it, the cown command does not have rights, (with or without sudo) Help!03:28
ecobuntuslow = out of date03:28
ecobuntusarge is out of date03:28
darkarchonyeah it is03:28
tonyyarussoNei: If none of those three do it for you, then I'm out of ideas, because that's what I used, so at this point I'm quite confused.03:28
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durtubuntu is slow03:28
ecobuntuetch is out of date03:28
darkarchonbut, who the heck uses sarge03:28
bob2dabaR: anyone can change them03:28
darkarchonor etch03:28
ecobuntusid is where ubuntu is03:28
krystoffhi there please i can't install any extensions with Firefox03:28
bob2dabaR: which is fine, just don't make them worse03:28
dabaRbob2: oh youre here:P that was a joke.03:28
Neitonyyarusso, do you mean to copy the same lines in a file ~/.gnomerc ?03:28
piepenguinbrat: It and up all the time: unvalid user..03:28
slewnickrud, so if i need to compile a program that needs gtk and gnet i need to sudo apt-get install gtk-dev?03:28
ecobuntui use to use sid but it's just as easy to use ubuntu03:29
farruinnpie: what exactly are you trying to access?03:29
krystoffin #firefox they told me to uninstall and reinstall ... right ?03:29
NeiI haven't tried that, will do that now03:29
tonyyarussoNei: Exactly.03:29
bob2no, ubuntu stable is more out of date, generally, than sid03:29
bur[n] erkrystoff: no03:29
jamestpenguinbrat , yea you were probably running sarge...they release like once every 3 years03:29
darkarchonecobuntu, i dislike the point+klick style of ubuntu03:29
ecobuntubob2: sid doesn't have gnome 2.12 yet though03:29
penguinbratpie: sudo should have the rights regardless cuz it's root...  ahh, the username part is going to be the username you use to log in as...03:29
krystoffi'm listening to you bur[n] er03:29
naliothslew: you need to "sudo apt-get build-dep pkgname" where pkgname is what you want to compile03:29
darkarchonnvm, i dont use ubuntu/debian/whatver03:29
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ecobuntubob2: though they do have the new kernel03:29
nickrudslew, pretty much.03:29
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bur[n] erkrystoff: you get errors or anything on installing?03:29
bob2ecobuntu: experimental does.  sid has 2.6.14 and firerfox rc1, for instance03:29
krystoffpackage eroor03:29
krystofferror03:30
tonyyarussoNei: Once I hit upon something that worked I didn't bother experimenting with deleting stuff, so I only know that one of those three files did the trick; I'm not sure which.03:30
darkarchon* gnome-base/gnome03:30
darkarchon     Available versions:  !1.4-r3 2.8.2 2.8.3-r1 2.10-r1 2.10.1 2.10.2 2.12.0 2.12.103:30
krystoffafter ff download it03:30
darkarchonnvm03:30
penguinbratjamest: that sounds kind of familiar, it was still on the 2.2 kernel or something really old, and it was all text based so it didnt last long =/03:30
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jamestyea yea03:30
bur[n] erkrystoff: default breezy version of firefox?03:30
jamesthow do you like ubuntu?03:30
piepenguinbrat: somehow not..03:30
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krystoffyes bur[n] er the dfault one03:30
ecobuntuso are you guys running sid or ubuntu then?03:30
jamesti think ubuntu is refreshingly easy03:30
jamesti'm 17 now03:30
jamesti started linux at 1003:30
darkarchonecobuntu, gentoo unstable ._.03:30
jamest??03:30
jamestdarkarchon03:30
ecobuntudarkarchon:  lol...why are you here?03:30
penguinbratpie: the invalid user part is what im talking about for the username...03:31
bur[n] erkrystoff: tried as a different user?03:31
darkarchonbecause my gf is using ubuntu03:31
darkarchon:>03:31
krystoffnot yet03:31
Neitonyyarusso, meh can't get it to work03:31
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slewnickrud, so if im trying to build a program, i sudo build-dep gtermix [the program im trying to build]  or build-dep gtk?03:31
krystoffbut delete my profile03:31
bur[n] erdarkarchon: good work ;)  my gf uses windows xp ;)03:31
krystoffthe same no ?03:31
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sn0nhey guys.. isnt there a page on supported laptops on ubuntu ?03:31
jaramillowhat does a black background and brown letters mean in a 'ls' cmd output at gnome-terminal03:31
jamestsn0n , probably on ubuntu.org03:31
nickrudslew, nalioth gave much better details than I did :)03:31
bur[n] erkrystoff: try it... might be an issue with your users profile03:31
darkarchonbur[n] er, she was pissed of windows03:31
dabaRshitty files":D03:31
durti wish i had a gf ;)03:31
jamestits more what in the laptop :-D03:31
krystoffok bur[n] er03:31
krystoffgonna try this03:31
darkarchonthe first real os with multitasking03:31
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liablesn0n: try tuxmobil03:31
FlannelKingAnyone know anything about EVMS? or what device dm-7 might be?03:31
DaSkreechcan I somehow remove a meta package and everything that depends on it?03:31
bur[n] erlol@ durt03:31
sn0nok03:31
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darkarchonit can boot and crash simultanously03:31
penguinbratjaramillo: I think the list is in /etc/DIRCOLORS, but what is coming to mind is a fifo...03:32
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spackohttp://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/03:32
esc_apedoes anyone know how I can compress to .zip? I have some files I need to send to a windows friend...and they dont know how to open .rar etc...03:32
bur[n] erspacko: wtf?03:32
slewnickrud, ahh sorry, saw two n's at the same time. thanks though =] 03:32
darkarchonesc_ape, urgs03:32
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darkarchonman zip03:32
spackohttp://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/03:32
luchoargentinohola hay alguien que escriba en espaol03:32
tonyyarussoNei: Sorry, but I'm out of options.  It may need a reboot or something.03:32
spackowooops03:32
spackoffs03:32
jaramillopenguinbrat: no /etc/DIR* here03:32
esc_apedarkarchon: man zip?03:32
jamestesc_ape , ZIP!03:32
bob2esc_ape: zip...03:33
darkarchonman = manual03:33
darkarchonzip = zip03:33
jaramilloin fact, im just using 'ls' not --colors03:33
darkarchon:P03:33
DaSkreechI'm trying to remove ubuntu-standard and everything that depends on it03:33
darkarchonman zip03:33
esc_apeoh duh03:33
esc_apek03:33
piepenguinbrat: I'm sorry, I need another bottle of wine.., the second one did not tribbute so far..03:33
luchoargentinohola parece que no hay espaoles03:33
Neitonyyarusso, yeh thanks very much for trying to help03:33
jamestjaramillo , check .bashrc03:33
jamestnei, whatsup?03:33
darkarchonurgs03:33
dooglus!es03:33
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:33
darkarchon< goin out for a smoke && to bed afterwards03:33
darkarchonits too late anyway.03:33
darkarchon03:33am03:33
darkarchonx_X03:33
jaramillok03:34
jaramilloyup03:34
jaramillothere it is03:34
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slewnalioth, that apt-get build-dep gtk dosent seem to work :(03:34
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luchoargentinoy aca hay quien hable espaol03:34
penguinbratesc_ape: zip newzipfile.zip [file list] 03:34
jamestslew, what are you tryign to do03:34
nut543What's the most relaxing and possible-to-work-with terminal font?03:34
DaSkreechpenguinbrat: Still awake man? :-)03:34
jamestslew, gnome comes with gtk 2.003:34
jamesthahaha03:34
luchoargentinosorreyyy o sorete como es03:34
Neijamest, I want my gnome to be in my native language03:34
darkarchonwhats the actual ubuntu kernel?03:34
jamestdarkarchon , run uname -a03:35
dabaRdarkarchon: umode03:35
penguinbratjaramillo: i guess ubuntu is just using the default colors or something, DIRCOLORS is a config file for it... try man'ing ls see if it gives you the color coding...03:35
dabaRhaha03:35
jamestyep03:35
jamestthe do03:35
darkarchoni still do not run ubuntu03:35
slewjamest, im trying to build a program called gtermix, it is used to connect to old-school ansi type bbs programs over telnet. ./configure tells me it cant find gtk, or gnet.03:35
darkarchonthats the point03:35
luchoargentinoaba aba du03:35
bob2darkarchon: please try to stay on-topc03:35
phase-viiI'm trying to run ubuntu...03:35
jaramillok, thx dude03:35
bob2darkarchon: breezy uses 2.6.12.03:35
n0odl3i heard people that use free bsd look down on linux users?03:35
luchoargentinoduque duque tton ton03:35
darkarchonthats what i wanted to know03:35
darkarchonthnx bob203:35
penguinbratDaSkreech: yeah, just trying to get pie running so I can get something to eat =P lol03:35
phase-viihaving problems mounting the CD-ROM03:35
luchoargentinobob y bob203:35
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bob2n0odl3: no03:36
penguinbratpie: err, thats cheating - LOL03:36
DaSkreechpenguinbrat: Alt+F2 -> pie03:36
sn0ni guess if the laptop dont like linux.. i can always use win2k03:36
sn0n;-)03:36
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slewPackage gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.03:36
DaSkreechpenguinbrat: Where could I find out how to remove a package and everything that depends on it03:36
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nickrudslew, start with libgkt2.0-dev, and libgnet-dev03:37
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dooglusDaSkreech: debfoster can do that for you03:37
ticklemonstercant he do it from synaptic?03:37
nut543 What's the most relaxing and possible-to-work-with terminal font?03:37
n0odl3bob2: do you use freebsd?03:37
dooglusticklemonster: I don't think so03:37
penguinbratDaSkreech: i hope that isnt what he is doing... I would just use one of the package managers, although I dont know about removing all the dependencies..03:37
jamestslew, apt-cache search gtk |less03:37
ticklemonsterthanks03:37
bob2n0odl3: no03:37
phase-viiWho can tell me what I'm doing wrong with my Live CD, b/c it won't run on my box.03:37
ticklemonsteri wondered that myself03:37
naliothslew: you'll need to do some research, and use actual pkg names03:37
bob2n0odl3: it's the same as linux users looking down on freebsd users03:37
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bob2n0odl3: only the stupid teenagers do it, and they can be safely ignored03:38
Earthenanyone know of a how to for setting up pppo over ethernet for dsl connection03:38
slewnalioth, jamest, thanks03:38
bob2n0odl3: I'm sure many freebsd users are annoyed at the influx of clueless users to unix in general03:38
budluvacan someone give me a hand here? i have a tnt2 and i ran the nvidia 7174 installer (*.run) and it compiled fine, after installation, remove Load "dri" and Load "GLcore" and add Load "glx" also replaced "nv" with "nvidia" saved, startx, x failed because could not load nvidia kernel module, screen found, but non have usable configuration03:38
darkarchonEarthen, pppoeconf maybe03:38
bob2nut543: terminus is quite pretty03:38
budluvaany suggestions?03:38
jamestslew, so you got it?03:38
n0odl3bob2: i see... I dont know i was using a linux terminal in my school then some berkely kid came up to me and said03:38
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ticklemonsterbudlova, I had probs with nvidia, until I realized that once you install nb you have to enable it03:39
AntiochWhen I echo my display system variable I get :0.0   what does that mean?03:39
piepenguinbrat: I will quit for to day. tomorrow Is way to close.., thanks!!!!!03:39
n0odl3bob2: "Damn linux user... wanna be hacker..." then gave me a really mean look03:39
HrdwrBoBhahahaha03:39
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HrdwrBoBwannabe hacker03:39
ticklemonsterlol03:39
penguinbratbudluva: run the dmesg command, there should be some lines at the bottom complaining about something when you tried to run X - when the nvidia module was attempted to be laoded03:39
n0odl3i dunno03:39
slewjamest, ha, i wish. it tells me no source package for libgtk2.0-dev03:39
n0odl3i dont even use linux to hack03:39
dabaRn0odl3: O_O03:39
farruinnn0odl3: you're going to assume all bsd users are like that person?03:39
n0odl3no03:39
n0odl3no i didnt mean that03:40
penguinbratpie: lol - okay, I'll catch you later and good luck =)03:40
budluvaticklemonster nb?03:40
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piepenguinbrat: Have a good suppur and get druk!. let's meet one day in thee Pub!03:40
jamestslew, you don't have to build from source03:40
penguinbratpie: sounds like a plan! =D03:40
slewjamest i dont?03:40
ticklemonsterless than a month03:40
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DaSkreechdooglus: tell me more03:40
piepenguinbrat: it is...03:40
n0odl3dabaR: what with the emoticon03:40
JabbaHutSilly question- does Linux vs FreeBSD follow political lines (Rep vs Dem)?03:40
ticklemonsteronly in europe03:41
esc_apeno03:41
Earthendarksatanic:  where do i find that03:41
naliothJabbaHut: take your silly question to #ubuntu-offtopic please03:41
slewjamest, it comes in an rpm flavor but debian hates rpms.03:41
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n0odl3wait which party is which?03:41
bob2n0odl3: so ignore them, duh03:41
DaSkreechnalioth: oh aptitude doesn't seem to work with Meta packages03:41
bob2JabbaHut: no03:41
naliothn0odl3: #ubuntu-offtopic please03:41
farruinnslew: what are you trying to install?03:41
darksatanicEarthen: Wha?03:41
n0odl3nalioth: ok... sorry about the off topic comments03:41
piepenguinbrat: same time tomorrow and we will talk about it, see you!03:41
spackohttp://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/03:41
phase-viiCan someone help me load Ubuntu on my system from the Live CD?03:41
spackohttp://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/03:41
dabaRbob2: pah03:41
FlannelKingAnyone know anything about EVMS? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with them?03:42
tritiumspacko, please stop advertising03:42
spackohttp://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/03:42
jamestslew, hell no grap a package not source03:42
farruinnspacko: install from the livecd? not possible yet unless you have the dvd03:42
dabaRtritium: spambot03:42
spacko?03:42
spacko:|03:42
bob2phase-vii: download the install cd03:42
spackohttp://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/03:42
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phase-viinot install just run it03:42
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dabaRspacko: why are you getting yourself banned from every chan?03:42
e0fcio03:42
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DaSkreechdooglus: What does it do?03:42
penguinbratpie: tomorow night I have class at this time so I may get on earlier and leave earlier =P03:42
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slewfarruinn, jamest, http://freshmeat.net/projects/gtermix/03:42
phase-viiit's hanging up trying to find the CD-ROM03:42
penguinbratpie: but in any event - cool deal, will see you then ;-)03:43
DaSkreechNight penguinbrat03:43
dabaRobviously the guy is not a bot:))03:43
tonyyarussothoreauputic: I got most of my issues fixed, except for a "(configure-thinkpad:13624): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:03:43
tonyyarusso" now when I try to run configure-thinkpad.  Any idea why?03:43
penguinbratDaSkreech: night03:43
AntiochIs there a way to specify the color depth of incoming x applications to be displayed in on the local x server??03:43
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cgedabaR: I have no idea - he did the same thing in #haskell.03:43
tonyyarussoOr would anyone else know what would cause a Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: error?03:44
Earthendarksatanic: sorry I wanted to say if you knew of a webpage that gave a good how too step by step because the Man page didn't get it working for me03:44
dabaRtonyyarusso: are you trying to run somethingt as root?03:44
darksatanicEarthen: Why are you asking me specifically?03:44
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dabaRtonyyarusso: ya, actually, you tell me what caused it03:45
darksatanicI haven't said anything in this channel for at least 12 hours.03:45
phase-viibob2: not trying to install, just trying to run it from the CD03:45
tonyyarussodabaR: Yeah, it was as root.03:45
dabaRtonyyarusso: "{03:45
dabaR*03:45
tonyyarussodabaR: configure-thinkpad03:45
slewdarksatanic, what made you speak up now?03:45
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slew=] 03:46
tonyyarussodabaR: what does that mean?03:46
darksatanicslew: Earthen invoking my name...03:46
jamestdarksatanic , i'm sure your mind was numbed03:46
Earthendarksatanic: sorry I was trying to type to darkacron03:46
slewhehehe03:46
darksatanicEarthen: Ah, OK. Mis-hit nick. :)03:46
jamestdarksatanic , ahh involking i love it03:46
Earthendarksatanic: yeah sorry about that03:46
slewthey keep pulling you back in03:46
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slewhehe03:47
DaSkreech!debfoster03:47
ubotudebfoster is, like, A command to weed unnecessary .deb packages. See http://www.fruit.eu.org/debfoster/ and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=244003:47
phase-viiOkay so does anyone know of a problem finding the CD ROM using the Live CD?03:47
phase-viiand/or how to fix it?03:47
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jamestphase-vii , bios03:47
slewjamest, the program im trying to install doesnt come in a debian pkg. =[03:47
tonyyarussodabaR: Running it as a normal user opens a little windows saying "Neither /dev/thinkpad/thinkpad nor /dev/thinkpad exists.  Please create the device."  What do I do for that?03:48
FlannelKingAnyone know anything about Enterprise Volume Management Services? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with them?03:48
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jamestslew...so do the usual03:48
jamestmake from source03:48
slewhehe jamest thats what im trying to do03:48
phase-viijamest: And what exactly do I do with the BIOS?03:48
tritiumslew, which program?03:48
dabaRtonyyarusso: whaat are you running, did yo ever tell?03:48
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slewhttp://freshmeat.net/projects/gtermix/03:48
jamestphase-vii , set it to cd running first03:48
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tonyyarussodabaR: configure-thinkpad03:48
Antiochdoes xnest work with xorg_03:48
budluvacan someone give me a hand here? i have a tnt2 and i ran the nvidia 7174 installer (*.run) and it compiled fine, after installation, remove Load "dri" and Load "GLcore" and add Load "glx" also replaced "nv" with "nvidia" saved, startx, x failed because could not load nvidia kernel module, screen found, but non have usable configuration03:49
phase-viijamest: no, it's already gotten past that I know how to use it, just not how to get past whatever is hangin git up in the middle03:49
dabaRtonyyarusso: so you need to run as root? I mean, run gksudo, tried that? Im not sure that is what you need.03:49
bob2budluva: ugh03:49
bob2budluva: you didn't use the nvidia drivers ubuntu ships with?03:49
dwhsixquick Q: is there any way to have the cursor jump to default button in a dialog?  Looked for it in the expected System | Preferences items, didn't find anything...03:49
durtbudluva: whats wrong with nvidia-glx?03:49
CryptidHow do i make iso backup of cds using dd command (give me the exact command to be used).....03:50
budluvacant use nvidia-glx or glx-legacy03:50
budluvaas i have A TNT2 i need 7174 drivers03:50
bob2Cryptid: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/whateva.iso03:50
tonyyarussodabaR: Actually, it was okay as a normal user, but I'm missing devices, and don't know how to create them.03:50
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durtbudluva: get a debian packages then03:51
dabaRtonyyarusso: I could not tell you, stop asking me, ask the channel, and a good question.03:51
budluvawhy?03:51
phase-viijamest: It says it can't find the CD-ROM and asks me for to find the device file or something like that03:51
rain`Hi, how do I restart my sound server?03:51
budluvawhats wrong with the installer?03:51
tonyyarussodabaR: Okay, thanks though.03:51
DaSkreechSomeone somewhere must have wanted to remove a deb and all its dependent packages......03:51
dabaR4sho03:51
durtbudluva: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/nvidia-glx03:52
dabaRwhy?03:52
AntiochCan I use Xnest with xorg?03:52
dabaRAntioch: yes03:52
DaSkreechdabaR:Me?03:53
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dabaRwhat?03:53
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Dk_userhat??03:54
DaSkreechdabaR: You said 4Sho03:54
DaSkreechI was wondering if that was a response to my wailing03:54
dabaRno.03:54
DaSkreech:-(03:54
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phase-viiOkay, so does anyone know why Ubuntu can't find the CD-ROM when I run it from the Live CD?03:55
jamestanywas03:55
jamesti gg all03:55
jamestphase-vii , seems like an installer error i get the same03:56
jamestweird03:56
jamesti'll report it03:56
jamestor fix it03:56
AntiochdabaR, how do I get a program to run on the xnested X display?03:56
farruinnwow, could you cut off your right pinky for us?03:56
phase-viijamest: ah okay thx03:56
dabaRAntioch: it should load gdm for you.03:56
jamestthats so obnoxious03:56
AntiochdabaR, it doesnt, just does the standard gray bg with X cursor03:56
n0odl3how do i run ./configure?03:57
dabaRcan you open a term, Antioch ?03:57
jamestAntioch , edit .xinitrc03:57
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slewone of my mandriva friends said gtermix will never compile under debian, i kinda wanna prove him wrong. but so far hes right, since its not wanting to compile past the configure stage.03:57
AntiochdabaR,  I can open a term in my normal X...03:58
dabaRAntioch: gdmflexiserver --xnest03:58
jamestslew03:58
dabaRslew...03:58
jamestmake a debian package out of the soruce03:58
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jamestslew , do you still have the .tar.gz?03:59
jamestalien --to-deb (PKG).tar.gz03:59
AntiochdabaR, is there a way to create a new screen and run applications there?03:59
slewjamest, yes04:00
dabaRAntioch: ^04:00
jamestslew , see above for alien04:00
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dabaRAntioch: I just did it in openbox.04:00
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FlannelKingwhat is EVMS? anyone?04:00
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AntiochdabaR, ? I would like to start an Xnest with 8 bit color so that I can have a remote x server forward x programs to run on that display04:01
DaSkreechCan I get some help for keywords when installing ubuntu?04:01
AntiochdabaR, but I wouldnt like to have gnome running on the other xnest04:01
jamestAntioch , why not just VNC?04:01
DaSkreechis the server package ubuntu-server or ubuntu-minimal?04:01
jamestfaster cheaper cooler04:01
DaSkreechor server keyword actually04:01
AntiochJamest server doesnt accept VNC, and the retarted software Im trying to run will only run in 8 bit.... I dont have this problem if I use an X emulator on windows... but with linux, I cant run the damn software =(04:02
nickrudDaSkreech, server for a fresh install from cd04:02
slewjamest, so its sudo --to-deb [pkg..] ?04:02
DaSkreechnickrud: Does that install ubuntu-server or ubuntu-standard?04:02
DaSkreechI just realized it can't be minimal04:02
AntiochdabaR, ? what do I need to know about edubuntu04:03
dabaRstop asking me.04:03
dabaRask the #04:03
DaSkreechAntioch: What are you asking?04:03
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KyralAntioch, I know about Edubuntu04:03
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AntiochKyral,  I dont need to know about edubuntu, but ubotu thought dabar said I needed to know about it, lol, thats all04:04
nickrudDaSkreech, ubuntu-server doesn't exist in breezy; I'm not sure if standard or base is what is installed by server04:04
DaSkreechnickrud: Ah is it replaced it by something else?04:04
slewjamest cause it wants a password for alien04:05
nickrudDaSkreech, I did an apt-cache show ubuntu-<tab> ; no server. I think that's something spec'd for dapper04:05
dabaRtab?04:06
labumm04:06
labdustin@lab:~/downloads/MPlayer-1.0pre7try2$ make04:06
labbash: make: command not found04:06
labno make wtf ?04:06
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wickedpuppylab, get build-essential04:06
crimsunlab: install mplayer from multiverse04:06
bobbyd_hi04:06
nickruddabaR, hit the tab key, bash completion is very nice04:06
labcrimsun,  no thanks04:06
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tuxedo_kamenhi everyone04:07
bobbyd_I have a really annoying problem where remote ssh sessions are dropped after about 5 seconds of inactivity. can anyone suggest where to start looking to sort this out?04:07
wickedpuppynickrud, i think dabaR knows the auto complete feature ... he been here for sometimes :P04:07
labkk, thanks wickedpuppy04:07
jamestthats rediculou04:07
jamests04:07
jamestlol04:07
jamestnight all04:07
tuxedo_kamenlisten, is there any vo-ip program for ubuntu, that allows me to perform phonecalls?04:08
slewthanks jamest04:08
wickedpuppytuxedo_kamen, skype04:08
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bobbyd_tuxedo_kamen: kphone04:08
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tuxedo_kamenare those free?04:08
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wickedpuppytuxedo_kamen, yes04:08
jamestslew , new04:08
DaSkreechnickrud: Did you try a apt-cache search ubuntu-* ?04:09
propagandhibobbyd_: you can change that timout in /etc/ssh/sshd_config04:09
tuxedo_kamenbut skype isn't the one where we need to pay for the phone calls?04:09
citrosacksorry for the windows question  but i am in windows right now and i was wonder  if anyone knew a really good mp3 tag editor for windows  such as easy tag for linux?04:09
wickedpuppytuxedo_kamen, i been using skype for a year or so now ...04:09
bobbyd_propagandhi: is it set to 5 seconds by defulat?04:09
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tuxedo_kameno_O strange04:09
tuxedo_kamenwhere can i get it?04:09
wickedpuppyskype.com ?04:09
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bobbyd_citrosack: itunes? windows media player?04:10
Hobbsee!tell tuxedo_kamen about skype04:10
propagandhibobbyd_: that much I couldnt tell you, but u can set ClientAliveInterval to say 600 and the ClientAliveCountMax  to say 3 and that would equate to half an hour04:10
propagandhibobbyd_: so you can do the math as to how long you would like04:10
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citrosackno i ment a GOOD one04:11
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wickedpuppybrown been spliting alot04:11
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slewmust be something it ate04:11
citrosacknevermind wrong place to ask04:11
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bjvwhy does the kernel with Ubuntu second-guess my bios and shut numlock off for all terminals/x?04:12
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bjvmy bios is set to numlock on, and it goes on while POST/grub goes on04:12
bjvbut the kernel switches it off.04:12
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slewso what was the command for making a tar.gz into a debian pkg?04:14
slewanyone know?04:14
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benplautslew: install "checkinstall"04:14
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naliothslew: alien?04:14
naliothslew: you should ask a question with more info in it04:14
naliothslew: both answers are correct04:14
slewok04:14
benplautthen run "checkinstall bleh" after "make" to turn it into a deb04:14
slewahh i cant get to 'make' i cant get past ./configure04:15
naliothbenplaut: what if slew is converting a slackware source file?04:15
chemisuswhich ftp server is recommended mostly?04:15
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wickedpuppychemisus, opensource one04:15
FlannelKingAnyone know anything about Enterprise Volume Management Services? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with them?04:15
benplautnalioth: good point, but unlikely04:15
abarbaccia_hey all - how do i make ubuntu stop shutting off my monitor - my system is hooked up to a TV and it keeps powering off when i don't want it to04:16
benplautare slack packages usually .tgz instaed of .tar.gz? (same thing, diff name)04:16
tuxedo_kamenhum.... <_< it doesn't allow me to install libqt3c102-mt !!!04:16
slewnalioth, if i were doing anything with slackware i wouldnt be asking such dumb questions. =] 04:16
benplauttuxedo_kamen: trying to install opera?04:16
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naliothslew: just pointing out that binaries from slack come in tar.gz format04:16
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krystoffbur[n] er, even with a new user i can't04:17
slewalien wants a password, i put my pw in and it didnt like it and now it wont let me retry04:17
durtyeah, use the debian opera package (not the ubuntu one)04:17
wickedpuppywtf04:17
tuxedo_kamenbenplaut, skype04:17
krystoffit seems like if the repo filedir is wrong04:17
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krystoffthere's nothing at the specified url i can't even wget the extension04:17
wickedpuppytuxedo_kamen, skype ... it has .deb just use dpkg04:18
benplautoh04:18
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tuxedo_kamenwickedpuppy, I have no idea on how to do that04:18
wickedpuppytuxedo_kamen, then how ya installing skype ?04:18
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tuxedo_kamensynaptic?04:19
_native_what was that all about?04:19
benplautoohhhh04:19
glaucanyone else having CVS problems with eclipse?04:19
tuxedo_kamenbut it just froze, and I have no idea on how to unfreeze it! >_<04:19
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benplautyeah, the official skype deb is b0rked04:19
wickedpuppyskype is in synaptic ? not in mine04:19
benplautaliening the mandrake RPM works fine04:19
benplautwickedpuppy: there's an official repo for it04:19
tuxedo_kamenwickedpuppy, I added that repository04:19
tuxedo_kamenbrb04:19
wickedpuppyoh the repo .. i see yup04:19
slewalien: command not found04:20
wickedpuppyslew, sudo apt-get install alien04:20
tritiumslew, then you should install it04:20
benplautsudo apt-get install alien04:20
benplautwoops04:20
wickedpuppymake sure you install predator too04:20
benplauttoo slow :(04:20
wickedpuppyso there will be alien vs predator04:20
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cansahow would i find out which version of u dev i have?04:20
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cyphaseooohh04:21
tuxedo_kamen?? skype04:21
cyphaseaaahh04:21
slewwickedpuppy, tritium, heh doing it now.. [sorry, dont be haten!] 04:21
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tritiumcansa, one way is with "dpkg -l udev"04:21
cyphasei'm running an ubuntu live cd in qemu04:21
cyphase:)04:21
wickedpuppycansa, udevinfo -V04:21
cansacheers guys04:21
tuxedo_kamenso, how can I install Skype, can anyone please help me? :|04:21
wickedpuppyi thought you are using the repo ?04:22
ishPhi all04:22
tritiumslew, "haten" is not a word I'm familiar with04:22
[koji] tuxedo_kamen, didn't skype had a deb04:22
slewsorry04:22
benplauttritium: you aren't from 'round here, are ya?04:22
tritiumbenplaut, where's that?04:22
benplautround here, we don't liak furners04:23
benplautthe not-so-southern-hospitality :P04:23
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holycowtuxedo_kamen, download the righ file from skype website, in terminal do dpkg -i file.deb to install04:25
holycowthats pretty much it04:25
tritiumbenplaut, it's the incorrect spelling...04:25
wickedpuppybenplaut, liak furners ?04:25
tuxedo_kamen.............04:25
tuxedo_kamensynapctic froze again04:25
tuxedo_kamenI think I found a bug04:25
naliothcan anyone help me get my wireless usb stick working on my ibook?04:25
tuxedo_kameni get thie error:04:25
durtbenplaut, thats a negro word, not a southern word04:25
_native_the term hate'in origiantes in the getos of the U.S04:25
_native_*gettos04:25
bur[n] erday took er jawbs04:25
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tuxedo_kamenDepends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable04:25
tuxedo_kamenany idea on what to do?04:25
naliothtuxedo_kamen: get the static pkg04:25
slewbenplaut, so when it says gtermix_0.2-2_all.deb generated, what do i do then?04:25
_native_arabic coffee is very potent04:25
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benplautslew: "sudo dpkg -i gtermix_0.2-2_all.deb"04:26
naliothslew: install it04:26
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durtlol @ bur[n] er04:28
nekostaryeah04:28
nekostarmy vid card isnt working atm !_!04:28
nekostarnvidia fx5200... i noticed uuber lag in the screensavers... how can i try to fix something like that?04:28
slewok, it said setting up gtermix, i tried running gtermix, command not found. where did it install to?04:28
slew[you guys effen rule] 04:28
bur[n] er_native_: it's ghetto you illiterrate buffoon ;)04:28
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mtupperhey all, full rookie here with the most basic of issues: i need to install a package from the CLI and not the nifty Synaptic GUI...  so i must learn some commands and I am having a heck of time figuring this out...   in terminal i was told to type:   $ apt-get install <package>     ...is this correct or am i missing something?04:29
_native_lol04:29
_native_dunt you takl liak tat at me04:29
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slewnalioth, benplaut i dont think alien did anything, i cant find where it installed gtermix04:31
mtupperoops, i forgot to add sudo (i knew that):    $ sudo apt-get install <pkg>04:31
_native_sudo apt-get install package04:31
_native_!sudo04:31
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cansahow do install udev 070?04:34
mtupper_native_:  oh, and this too:  when i do 'ls' it shows the package i want to install right there, then i run this cmd and it says:04:34
mtupperReading package lists... Done04:34
mtupperBuilding dependency tree... Done04:34
_native_is the network slow or what?04:34
_native_seems to be crawling04:34
nekostaryeah thats right mtupper04:34
slewso if alien doesnt work then this program just wont work on ubuntu?04:34
mtupperE: Couldn't find package <pkg name>04:34
nekostarbut you need to make sure your sources are uncommented04:34
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ubotusudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:35
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nekostarand then do sudo apt-get update04:36
nekostaro: i bet your just missing the sudo04:36
nekostarsudo apt-get install package04:36
nekostar:)04:36
bjvmtupper: apt-get apt-cache and dpkg are pretty handy, you can do alot more with the terminal(like | grep and dpkg -c to find files on your box) that you cant do with the gui.04:36
tuxedo_kamenit didn't work, oh well...04:38
nekostarmtupper, your not typing in the $ right?04:39
nekostarsudo apt-get install xchat <<-- installs what im talking to ya through atm :D04:39
tuxedo_kamenanyone knows of a program for ubuntu that allows me to make phone calls?04:39
nickrudcan someone tell me what those two bars below the user list in xchat indicate?04:39
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naliothslew: in your build directory, do an "ls" and see what binaries have been made04:39
naliothmtupper: that is correct04:39
naliothubotu: tell mtupper about apt-get04:40
naliothcan anyone help me get my wireless usb stick working on my ibook?04:40
tuxedo_kamenhey, it's nalioth!04:40
tuxedo_kamenhi! :D04:40
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naliothtuxedo_kamen: know anything about broadcom wireless chipsets?04:40
tuxedo_kameno_O no, why?04:41
mtupperok, so let me ask something maybe even more basic...   i can install debian packages with this command?04:41
mtuppersudo apt-get install <package.deb>04:41
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naliothtuxedo_kamen: because ndisreaper doesnt work on powerpc04:41
tuxedo_kameno_O04:41
tuxedo_kamenthat sounded like chinese to me04:41
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tuxedo_kamen>_<04:41
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tuxedo_kamenanyone knows of a program for ubuntu that allows me to make phonecalls? :|04:41
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LoneWolf071how do i setup VNc so it has java enabled?04:41
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naliothmtupper: enable universe and multiverse04:41
naliothubotu: tell mtupper about repos04:41
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cge__native_: well, calvino is split.04:41
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naliothubotu: tell shoddy about verify04:41
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LoneWolf071i start up VNC and it is on ports 6001 and 5901 but i try to connect in a browser and it doesn't work04:41
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illicitLoneowlf: I believe, the browser part of VNC is a Java viewer correct?04:41
LoneWolf071yes...04:41
tuxedo_kamen:S04:41
LoneWolf071and java is enabled on my computer04:41
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Nihilan hd can't multiplicate its partitions randomly04:41
Nihili cannot believe it04:41
tuxedo_kamenanyone knows of a program for ubuntu that allows me to make phonecalls from my home pc?04:41
LoneWolf071illicit:yes, why?04:41
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illicitLoveWolf: Just seeing if i could understand your situation.04:41
illicitApprently i can't spell04:41
LoneWolf071lol, i've used VNC before04:41
LoneWolf071and i know there are 2 ways, a VNc viewer, Then A Jvascript p04:41
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illicityah04:41
LoneWolf071javascript*04:41
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illicitthe java viewer is on a different port than the regular viewer i believe04:41
illicit6002 maybe04:41
CarlFKtuxedo_kamen: search synaptic for VoIP04:41
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illicitfirst off, are you using....VNC or "Tight VNC"04:41
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LoneWolf071VNC-common04:41
illicitokay04:41
Nihil??????04:41
Nihiltoday is the poltergeist day!?!?!?04:41
Nihilfirst my hd then the channel?04:41
LoneWolf071illicit:there's 6001 and 5901 ... those are both open04:41
illicitalright04:41
tuxedo_kamenCarlFK, but I don't know what to install! :|04:41
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illicitare you attempting this locally or remotely?04:41
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LoneWolf071locally04:41
NintendofreqI need help...04:41
LoneWolf071and i nmap it and i can see te open ports04:41
illicitdid u make sure u enabled the java script option to me turned on?04:41
illicitor did u just start the server....04:41
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LoneWolf071vncserver04:41
LoneWolf071just that04:41
bob2LoneWolf071: nmap of yourself is of no use04:41
tuxedo_kamenanyone knows of a program for ubuntu that allows me to make phonecalls from my home pc? -_-04:41
CarlFKtuxedo_kamen: Try kphone04:41
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bob2mtupper: no04:41
LoneWolf071what's the arg to start the javascript version04:41
bob2tuxedo_kamen: shtoom04:41
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NintendofreqCan anyone here help me with installation04:41
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LoneWolf071Nintendofreq:What do You Need?04:41
shoddyhey yeah me too04:41
tuxedo_kamenbob2, what? o_O04:42
illicitLoneWolf071: Err....i can't recall, "man vncserver"04:42
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shoddymy install hangs at the part when it searches for the cd04:44
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mtuppernalioth:  can you elaborate?  i did that in synaptic, but in terminal CLI, its beyond my current know-how...04:44
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LoneWolf071illicit:i think it's a seperate package04:44
NintendofreqI'm running off live CD and want to dual boot with XP. Ive never really used linux before...04:44
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Avenhey04:44
shoddyand it complains about irq 15 on the virtual console04:44
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CarlFKtuxedo_kamen: you will proably want an account from http://www.freeworlddialup.com/04:44
Avenis there a way to install gd library using apt-get ?04:44
Gobbla_anybody know a good ripping software that support x264?04:44
illicitLoneWolf071: You might, be right...give me a couple minutes, ill run through it04:44
NintendofreqI'm mostly worried about partitioning the HD. Cant find free tool thats easy.04:44
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LoneWolf071Nintendofreq:Ok, Well First, Back Up All Of Your Data04:44
LoneWolf071illicit:Ok, TY04:44
Nintendofreqgot that04:44
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LoneWolf071Nintendofreq:Ok, So Next, You Need To Partition Your Drive04:44
Nihilhallo04:44
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bjvmtupper: what did you need? repos are listed in /etc/apt/sources.list04:44
bob2"ripping" of what?04:44
Nihili have a very big problem, not concerning Ubuntu. a damaged HD portatile box has EATEN an hardisk of mine... now it seems not formatted and both windows and linux cannot read it04:44
NintendofreqI have the ubuntu install CD too04:44
Nihilcan anyone help me?04:44
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Nihila program to rescue hardisk?04:44
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mtupperbob2:  no what?  no, i cant install debian packages using 'sudo get-apt install <pkg.deb> ???04:45
tuxedo_kamencarlfk, what should I write in "User Part of SIP URL:" and "Host Part of SIP URL:"?04:46
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LoneWolf071Nintendofreq:Ok, We Can Guess That, But You Need To04:46
LoneWolf071PArtition Your Drive04:46
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odie5533How do I change my default java version to SUN?04:46
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newbie2hello all04:46
Nintendofreqhow?04:46
illicitLoneWolf071: You have to seperately install the java pkg of vnc...04:46
LoneWolf071Nintendofreq:http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/partitioneditors.shtml04:46
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srihi all04:46
LoneWolf071illicit:is the package name vnc-java?04:46
sriquestion, does anybody have a deb of the new rhythmbox?04:46
CarlFKtuxedo_kamen: it is like buying a phone, and getting service.  you need both, so get the service from http://www.freeworlddialup.com04:46
naliothmtupper: elaborate on what?04:46
srialso does anybody have a deb of the last release of evolution?04:46
CarlFKtuxedo_kamen: there are others, but I like FWD04:46
shoddyhi i need some help installing onto my laptop04:46
illicitLoneWolf071: Yes04:46
LoneWolf071well i do apt-get install vnc-java nad it tells me the package is obsolete04:46
tuxedo_kamen-_- CarlFK, can I please PM you?04:46
bob2mtupper: correct04:46
CarlFKtuxedo_kamen: no04:46
newbie2what are the odds of making an ATI Radoeon Mobility  card work04:46
tuxedo_kamenok...04:46
CarlFKtuxedo_kamen: A) others should see thistoo, b) I am about to go04:46
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bjvmtupper: oh, no no,   you need  dpkg04:46
bjvmtupper: man dpkg   in the terminal04:46
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shoddycan anyone help me?04:46
bob2LoneWolf071: uh, the ubuntu installer includes a partioning tool04:47
CarlFKtuxedo_kamen: do you want to just talk to other computer users, or people with just a phone (no computer)?04:47
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nickrudodie5533, sudo update-alternatives --config java04:47
mtupperah, ok guys, let me read up on that first, thanks...04:47
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tuxedo_kamenjust a phone, no computer, carlfk !04:47
illicitLoneWolf071: My apt-get install worked perfect..04:47
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illicitLoneWolf071: Do you have default Repositories?04:47
LoneWolf071kk04:47
LoneWolf071yes04:47
odie5533nickrud, thanks04:47
Nihilhallo04:47
LoneWolf071and the universal04:48
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Nihili have a very big problem, not concerning Ubuntu. a damaged HD portatile box has EATEN an hardisk of mine... now it seems not formatted and both windows and linux cannot read it04:48
Nihilcan anyone help me?04:48
Nihila program to rescue hardisk?04:48
newbie2rescue how04:48
mtuppertuxedo_kamen: kphone and linphone are SIP phones you can use with many services like FWD for making inet phone calls to the pstn...04:48
illicitLoneWolf071: Give me 1 second and ill grab an updated list of working Repos....Hoary HedgeHog your distro?04:48
LoneWolf071bob2:Ok, Didn't Know, And Sometimes The Text PArtitioning can be hard for newbs04:48
LoneWolf071yes04:48
tuxedo_kamenmtupper, sorry but I didn't understand anything you just said :|04:48
CarlFKtuxedo_kamen: ok, then FWD wont help. (that is just for computer to computer calls)04:49
tuxedo_kamen:-\ so... how can I do it?04:49
illicitLoneWolf071: http://download.ubuntuforums.org/ubuntusetup04:49
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bjvNihil: if you put a drive in an external enclosure and now it does not work. does that mean it was dropped?04:49
CarlFKtuxedo_kamen: for computer to phone, you will need to pay, like 2cents per min04:49
illicitLoneWolf071: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources_list"04:49
bjvNihil: or that the enclosure contained a logic board and turned your disk into half of a raid or something.04:49
tuxedo_kameno_O04:49
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tuxedo_kamenis there no free one?04:50
newbie2nihil go to www.nonags.com and download the ultimate boot cd excelent partion tool for free04:50
foxgamerHi all. I seem to have made a mess with my screensavers. Is there anyone that can help?04:50
Nihilbjv, no. it means that before the HD worked. Now it's like a poltergeist possess it04:50
CarlFKtuxedo_kamen: http://voip-info.org/wiki/view/What+is+VOIP04:50
shoddyhi can someone please help me out?04:50
Nihilnewbie2, thanks. i will do it04:50
LoneWolf071illicit:i got it... i know how to do that simple stuff04:50
newbie2I have used it to repair many HDs04:50
CarlFKtuxedo_kamen: the only free is computer to computer.  as soon as a phone company is involved, there is a charge04:50
Nihilbjv, the HD seems to be not partitioned, even if it was FAT3204:51
illicitLoneWolf071: :) Just making sure.04:51
bjvNihil: well if you can attache the disk to an IDE channel, and find it with /dev/hdXY then the drive is probably OK. though might be unparted04:51
LoneWolf071illicit:Ty04:51
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tuxedo_kamencarlfk, but... so, how do you explain that I found one that work but ONLY for some countries?04:51
Nihilbjv, can we talk in private?04:51
bjvNihil: just try hitting it with an fdisk or similar, some programs can guess at deleted parts.04:51
bjvassuming the drive hasnt been formated.04:52
CarlFKtuxedo_kamen: http://voip-info.org/wiki/view/What+is+VOIP04:52
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tuxedo_kamen... i already saw that04:52
CarlFKtuxedo_kamen: did you read it?04:52
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tuxedo_kamenbut i also told you that i saw one that works, but ONLY for some countries!04:52
LoneWolf071illicit:Let Me Ask, What Port Does Apt use, 80?04:52
tuxedo_kamenI mean, I was able to call spanish phones, but not portuguese ones! >_<04:52
shoddydoes anyone know how to disable irqs for the install program?04:52
shoddyi know that irq 15 is causing the problem04:52
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birdi need help04:53
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LoneWolf071bird:give us a little more then that04:53
illicitLoneWolf071: It uses whichever port is listed in the repos....ftp = 20-21, http = 8004:53
newbie2you set irqs in the bios right04:53
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birdwhen i run a .run file it tells me to be a super user04:53
birdbut i cant run it in terminal04:54
CarlFKtuxedo_kamen: no clue.  I haven't seen any limitations like that04:54
shoddyyeah, but my bios is very simple, ibm thinkpad04:54
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birdso how do i run it04:54
newbie2mmm04:54
CarlFKthats it, I am outa here.04:54
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birdwhen i run a .run file it tells me to be a super user04:54
newbie2bird what?04:54
birdbut i cant run it in terminal04:54
CaNzAgreat the server is takin a dump on my screen04:54
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birdso how do i run it04:54
tuxedo_kamencarlfk, I would show you the site, but I only have it on windows! >_<04:54
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PhuzionIs php4 taken off of the Ubuntu apt-get?04:54
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LoneWolf071illicit:i updated the sources, but got a bunch of dead links or "failed to open file"04:54
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LoneWolf071Err ftp://ftp2.caliu.info hoary-backports/restricted Packages04:54
LoneWolf071  Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.  '04:54
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budluvabird alt-f2 then gksudo blah.run04:54
illicitLoneWolf071: Your using Hoary Hedgehog correct?04:54
birdi need to run a shell script in gnome but while i am a super user04:54
tuxedo_kamencarlfk, thanks anyway, I guess i'll be going to bed04:54
lajujhowdy04:54
birdty04:54
LoneWolf071yes04:54
newbie2sudo -s04:55
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newbie2bird try sudo -s04:55
PhuzionDid php4 get taken off of apt-get or something?04:55
illicitLoneWolf071:  Ok your messed up in some way...make sure all the repos that were previously in there are gone04:55
LoneWolf071they are04:55
birdokey that helped alot it works now04:55
newbie2just type exit to get back out of the root bird04:55
illicitLoneWolf071: And delete the "Backports" section... since backports for ubuntu always change04:55
illicitLoneWolf071: should be #Backports and 2 URLS...delete those04:55
LoneWolf071illicit:backports?04:55
PhuzionAnyone here know a bit about apt-get?04:56
LoneWolf071illicit:Backup?04:56
lajujis there someone who could give a bit of help with my wireless setup.  I have a laptop use cable at home and wireless on the go.  I've finally gotten the drivers installed for my wireless card, but I haven't had any luck connecting to wireless networks.04:56
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LoneWolf071Phuzion:Join The Convo.04:56
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illicitLoneWolf071: The very last section under sources_list...is #Back*  delete it...04:56
PhuzionI would, but no one's talking on subject's I'm familiar with04:56
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newbie2any one know of a driver for an ATI Radeon 9000 on a notebook04:57
Discipuluswhat Kern is Breezy running?04:57
illicit2.604:57
AgrajagLinux mwowm 2.6.12-9-k7 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:47:52 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux04:57
Agrajagthat one04:57
Discipulusoh04:57
mtupperFINALLY!!!  the magic combo:  sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>  ...   you guys must laugh when a rookie dwells over something so simple, but how gratifying to finally get it going!!!  another convert well on his way.   peace-out--04:58
Discipulusthey got packages out for 2.6.14 yet?04:58
AgrajagDiscipulus: no, and they never will in breezy04:58
LoneWolf071illicit:it works, TY04:58
odie5533Any Ubuntu dev here?04:58
illicitAgrajag: How is gnome2???04:58
nomasteryoda|wmtupper, where abouts are you from?...04:58
illicitAgrajag: Or whatever it's labeled04:58
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sellstritium: hey Mike04:59
lajujUbuntu sees my wireless card, but I am not sure about how to actually find and connect to wireless networks.  Can someone help me?04:59
Agrajaghuh? it's fine, I've been using gnome 2.x since it came out04:59
illicitLoneWolf071: Alright no problem, did u grab java-vnc?04:59
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nomasteryoda|wmtupper, down in GA, usa04:59
mtupperi am from Portland, OR and living in Vina del Mar, Chile.04:59
nomasteryoda|wwow04:59
kevmanWill Ubuntu release packages for OpenOffice 2.0.0?04:59
Agrajagkevman: yes, in Dapper.05:00
Phuzionlajuj, do you have the proper drivers loaded for your wireless card?05:00
newbie2lajuj click on system then administration and then network05:00
Quest-Masternomasteryoda|w: where in GA?05:00
lajujphuzion, I do05:00
nomasteryoda|wkevman, you can make them pretty simply using the alien package05:00
nomasteryoda|wMacon05:00
Quest-MasterAh, I'm in Kennesaw05:00
nomasteryoda|wcool05:00
lajujphuzion, Ubuntu sees my wireless card, I believe05:00
kevmanAlien an RPM, you mean, nomasteryoda|w ?05:00
nomasteryoda|walien05:00
kevmanBecuase 1.9.129 is fucking unstable.05:01
nomasteryoda|wis a conversion tool for making packages into format for the distro you use05:01
nomasteryoda|wkevman, apt-get install alien05:01
nomasteryoda|wthen type man alien05:01
nomasteryoda|wvery simple to do05:01
nomasteryoda|wreally05:01
kevmanThat's what I mean. Then convert what package?05:02
nomasteryoda|wkevman, you get the whole rpm package from openoffice05:02
foxgamerCould I trouble someone for some help regarding an error I'm getting with my screensavers?05:02
nomasteryoda|wkevman, extract it05:02
nomasteryoda|wthen "alien -d *.rpm"05:03
nomasteryoda|wthat is if -d is right05:03
nomasteryoda|wdid 2 weeks ago05:03
kevmanOh, the install is a tar.gz  RPM?05:03
newbie2anyone here do much with embeded?05:03
nomasteryoda|wrpms inside that file05:03
nomasteryoda|wyes05:03
nomasteryoda|wnewbie2, not me05:03
kevmanAlright.05:04
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nomasteryoda|wkevman, the menu option is already in deb format and will install perfectly on ubuntu05:04
phinnaeuswhat is the process for installing sound card drivers?05:04
newbie2I just had some questions about flash memory05:04
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phinnaeusdoes anyone know?05:05
kevmannomasteryoda|w, what menu option?05:05
newbie2phinnaeus have you tried the wiki05:06
nomasteryoda|wkevman, there's a folder inside that file that contains menu items for all common distro installer formats05:06
nomasteryoda|wworks well05:06
kevmanOk, I'll have to look at the contents. But my INternet is horrible and the download won't be done till tommorow.05:07
nomasteryoda|wk05:07
nomasteryoda|wyou'll get it going05:07
nomasteryoda|wuninstall the one that's there05:07
nomasteryoda|wi removed all references on suse and ubuntu on my boxes05:07
nomasteryoda|wand installed the 2.0 from oo site05:08
newbie2phinnaeus https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards?highlight=%28cards%29%7C%28sound%2905:08
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kevmanIts current condition is unusably crashappy05:09
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bobbyd_hi05:11
nomasteryoda|whowdy bobbyd_05:11
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bobbyd_I accientally deleted some files belonging to a package, how do I force it to remove the rest of the file, or just force it to reinstall the package?05:11
Nihil85hello05:12
newbie2nomasterhoda|w how long have you been in Linux05:12
bobbyd_Nihil85: hi05:12
xulinnanuit05:12
nomasteryoda|wnewbie2, since about 199805:12
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nomasteryoda|wused in 1996 for a while05:13
nomasteryoda|wso pretty much a long time05:13
solidgroovehow can I get mp3 support in sound juicer, theres no gstreamer-lame in universe05:13
nomasteryoda|wlinux is so good and fun05:13
newbie2last time i messed with Unix was in 96 it is comming back slowly05:13
naliothsolidgroove: gstreamer0.8- whatever you desire05:13
nomasteryoda|weven with issues like gstreamer05:13
naliothsolidgroove: for mp3, -mad05:13
bobbyd_anyone? I need to do it fro the command line as well...05:14
goatboysolidgroove: gstreamer0.8-lame is in multiverse05:14
newbie2took me a while to solve the codec riddle05:14
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newbie2M$ hid it well05:15
newbie2is there anything that will let you use winbox video drivers05:16
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naliothnewbie2: winbox?05:16
newbie2windows05:16
naliothubotu: tell newbie2 about w32codecs05:16
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newbie2i have the codec05:16
newbie2i need to use a driver05:17
_native_?05:17
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nut543now me goes05:17
_native_lates05:17
lajujcan someone help me a bit configuring my wireless card - My drivers are installed, but even when I activate the card in networking I still am not detecting wireless networks05:17
_native_what card chipset?05:17
lajujbroadcom05:18
_native_lajuj,05:18
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newbie2ndiswrapper?05:18
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lajujI have rung ndiswrapper and installed the drivers just fine05:18
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lajujand when I ifconfig I see the wlan005:18
newbie2r u using the correct wep05:18
lajujwell, I don't have a specific wireless network05:19
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lajujI just want to be able to connect to whatever is around05:19
newbie2well you will need the wep for what ever is around05:19
naliothnewbie2: you do not, for open networks05:19
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newbie2true05:19
naliothlajuj: iwlist --help doesn't enlighten you?05:19
newbie2just have not seen many of those05:19
_native_i see tons in my area05:20
labChanging gdeskcal font size ?05:20
newbie2must be nice05:20
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_native_its amazing how people just plug it their routers and thinks thats it.05:20
newbie2i dont doubt it now that you mention it05:20
_native_me thinks :-P05:21
lajujnalioth, let me check iwlist out05:21
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_native_i dont touch others nets though.05:21
_native_unless they dont care.05:21
newbie2people around here are not so generous05:22
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newbie2I see about 12 around my house all secure05:22
billyochere either, just stupid05:22
rain`Hi, I am trying to run the command # echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss from a sh file, but obviously the sh file thinks its a comment, how do I run that from the file?05:23
newbie2I know I turned off my SSID and locked it with wep05:23
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Discipuluswhen will breezy have the package for 2.6.1405:24
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apokryphosnever05:24
apokryphosBreezy has been released05:24
goatboyrain`: remove the # when you run it.05:24
rain`goatboy: then you get a permission denied error, you need the # when you run it in terminal05:25
rain`goatboy: it does work like that, i dont know why05:25
goatboyrain`: the # just means it's meant to be run as root, run this:05:25
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goatboyecho "et.x86 0 0 direct" | sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss05:25
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tonyyarussoCan anyone tell me how to create a device?  I'm getting an error message of /dev/thinkpad/thinkpad and /dev/thinkpad not found; device does not exist; please create device, and I don't know how to do that.05:26
newbie2wouldnt you know it the only thing I found about the ATI Radeon on the Wiki and its in Italian05:26
YAFUlmao05:26
arthursehow to kill a application that freeze?05:26
GigaClonGAIM has not been able to login to AIM for a couple of days05:27
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ispikedwhen will ubuntu package x-chat 2.6.0?05:27
rain`GigaClon: mine works just fine, so it must be on your end05:27
Madpilotnewbie2: there's English ATI info on wiki.ubuntu.com too05:27
newbie2Aim has a virus on the lose05:27
mustard5arthurse, which application?05:27
rain`its a super virus too...:P05:27
newbie2i ll try again05:27
madalenahello05:28
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tonyyarussoI'm logged into AIM with Gaim just fine right now.  (Although it has been a little sketchy and disconnecting occasionally as of late.)05:28
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YAFUAim has a virus?05:28
geoizilI always get disconnected of AIM05:28
newbie2root kit05:28
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YAFUcute05:29
newbie2some url shows up if you goto it it installs a root kit05:29
GigaClontrobleshooting help?05:29
rain`goatboy: well that works, but it asks me for a password :( the # method didnt seem to need that05:29
Madpilot!tell newbie2 about ati05:29
brist0whello. anyone here from canada? any of you use shipit?05:29
newbie2i would like to know myself madpilot05:29
YAFU# was just stating you need to run the command as a super user :o05:29
goatboyrain`: the # method didn't run at all :)05:29
naliothnewbie2: then check your msgs05:29
Madpilotnewbie2: you should have gotten a msg from ubotu - that was a command to the bot05:30
rain`goatboy: it ran from the terminal and didnt ask me for a password, but it didnt run from the sh file05:30
newbie2wasnt watching sorry05:30
GigaClonits says can't connect to host05:30
tonyyarussobrist0w: I'm in Canada, but I'm from the States.  Someone else in the room might be able to answer a question though; what do you need?05:30
newbie2thanx05:30
newbie2i forget about that sometimes05:31
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brist0wjust wondering about how long ship-to-delivery takes. found out about it recently, ordered it, and was delayed because of the upcoming release. the order was handed off to the shipping company about 3 weeks ago, but it still hasn't arrived... wondering if that's typical or not05:31
rain`YAFU: Why does # not ask me for a password then?05:31
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solidgroovemultiverse is broken?05:31
arthursemustard5, xmule freeze!05:31
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AntiochWhat command can I use to search the PATH for a binary file?05:32
newbie2Madpilot do you know anything about Looking Glass? is it very stable?05:32
goatboyrain`: in sh, everything after a # is treated as a comment (meaning it isn't run)05:32
naliothbrist0w: 4-8 weeks05:32
brist0walso, what's a decent-performing minimum config for an ubuntu system? if I can install it on a PIII-600 with 128M RAM, is that a decent machine, or should I be looking for something more muscular? should I inisit on more memory (a-la-windows :)?05:32
Madpilotnewbie2: I don't even know what "Looking Glass" is...05:32
mustard5arthurse, try killall <applicationname>05:32
naliothbrist0w: more memory is good for all OS'05:33
arthursemustard5, worked, tnx05:33
mustard5arthurse, or alternatively click rapidly on the kill button for a while05:33
brist0wnalioth: thanks. then i shall simply bit shift my patience one bit left. :)05:33
naliothbrist0w: you can run a light window manager on that machine05:33
Madpilotbrist0w: I think they ship surface - cheaper - and I know it's shipped from Europe05:33
newbie2Java 3d desktop05:33
Gobbla_i would say 4-8 wks if you're lucky05:33
newbie2sun i am sorry sun05:34
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Gobbla_isn't shipit factory located in holland?05:34
CarlFKbrist0w: I find the basic Ubuntu is usable on a P2-333, 128mb.  96mb is way slower, 256mb is a little faster05:34
tonyyarussobrist0w: (re: Madpilot) Netherlands, specifically.05:35
newbie2if you have some good hardware it is http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/05:35
brist0wi haven't played with linux in about 2 or 3 years. last i checked, there were big differences in filesystem organization and package management between the redhat-ish and debian-ish distros. what heritage does ubuntu claim?05:35
CarlFKbrist0w: and what you are used to will make a huge difference.  my P2 box seems much slower now that I also have a P4 1.7g05:35
brist0wCarl: :)05:35
CarlFKbrist0w: Ubuntu is based on Debian05:35
Madpilotbrist0w: Ubuntu is Debian05:35
GigaClonbritst0w, debian05:35
YAFU:s05:36
brist0wdebian still around, or is that what it has become?05:36
Gobbla_its a fork05:36
newbie2still around05:36
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Madpilotbrist0w: Debian is still Debian - Ubuntu is a fork (or a spoon, to some people) ;)05:36
n0odl3?05:37
n0odl3strangness05:37
brist0wok. will have to dredge up what i remember. never really played with debian, as such. used it "by proxy" through the corel distro05:37
billyocLazy Debian05:37
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newbie2take care all05:37
n0odl3i heard that people are already using dapper drake05:37
n0odl3is this true?05:37
mustard5n0odl3, at their own peril yest05:38
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Madpilotthe "spoon" joke is explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth05:38
brist0wis ubuntu evolving rapidly? or is mostly mature already?05:38
GigaClonboth05:38
Gobbla_has it something to do with the matrix?05:38
Gobbla_:)05:38
mustard5n0odl3, I would imagine it would be very unstable from day to day :)05:39
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Gobbla_Madpilot: i dont see it explained anywhere..05:40
_native_i hate bug #105:40
_native_:-)05:41
MadpilotGobbla_: hmm, thought it was there...05:41
brist0wQuoted: Is Ubuntu a Debian fork? Or spoon? What sort of silverware are you, man?05:41
brist0wYes, Ubuntu is a fork. No, it isn't. Yes it is! Oh, whatever.05:41
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_native_who cares it rocks!05:41
brist0wthat should allow a fruitful search ...05:42
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bobbydhi, I have this error when I try to remove freenx, I accidently deleted some of it's files: dpkg: error processing freenx (--configure). how can i fix that?05:42
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bobbydthat was my other client that quit btw, I'mstill here :)05:43
mustard5bobbyd, reinstall and uninstall propely this time?05:44
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bobbydmustard5, how do I reinstall?05:44
bobbydmustard5, I can't get apt-get to force it to do it05:44
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mustard5bobbyd, I don't know then05:44
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farruinndo programs with debuggins symbols run slower? (/me trying to figure out why they don't come with symbols included by default)05:46
rixthQuick non-Ubuntu question, I'm working for a client who has a FreeBSD 5.4 server, what is the package manager for it?05:46
_native_bobbyd, it wont reinstall05:46
farruinnfreebsd use the ports system?05:47
_native_?05:47
propagandhifarruinn: you should try #freebsd05:48
Lord_MaynothWill Dapper automatically configure and mount your windows partitions without having to download and run a script (like in breezy)???05:48
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rixthThanks!05:48
kevmanw00t.05:48
farruinnpropagandhi: actually it was rixth that was asking :)05:48
Agrajagfarruinn: yes, they do run slower, and take up more memory and disk space05:48
propagandhifarruinn: yes, sorry05:48
tonyyarussoI managed to mess up gnome-app-install, and reinstalling didn't fix it.  I've asked about this earlier to no avail, so let me know if you think you can be of help.05:48
farruinnpropagandhi: no problem :)05:48
_native_w00t?05:48
_native_;-] 05:48
kevmanMy roommate just chucked a printer out the window05:49
_native_lol05:49
Lord_Maynothlol05:49
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farruinnkevman: what floor?05:49
propagandhikevman: you should chuck your roomate out the window too05:49
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CaNsAok ive followed the guide but my fekin modem still wont work05:49
propagandhikevman: and tell him to get anger management therapy05:50
kevmanfarruinn, third.05:50
farruinnkevman: sweet :)05:50
kevmanpropagandhi, nah, he just did it for fun. It was in the trash05:50
_native_kevman, where u at?05:50
propagandhikevman: ok, in that case...05:50
_native_location05:50
kevman_native_, school05:50
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_native_country?05:51
kevmanUSA05:51
_native_woohoo!05:51
_native_me too05:51
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kevmanPA05:51
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_native_just to let ya know DOWN WITH BUSH!05:51
_native_:-005:52
_native_:-/05:52
_native_sorry bout the yell05:52
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_native_i heard a cricket fart.05:54
_native_chirp..chrip...05:54
mustard5CaNsA, what type of modem?05:54
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CaNsAspeedtouch 330 usb05:55
mustard5CaNsA, ah ok usb modem...I've seen a few people have trouble with them05:55
mustard5CaNsA, is that an adsl modem?05:55
CaNsAi think i 4got to do 1 thing05:55
CaNsAyeah adsl05:55
CaNsA1 sec05:55
mustard5k05:55
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mustard5CaNsA, I'm not sure how to fix it though....I might search around the wiki and forums to see what is around05:56
agtIs there a way to test if my fstab works without rebooting :/ ?05:57
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mustard5agt, yes05:58
_native_you can try to remount but that is not for sure.05:58
kevmanagt, mount mountpoint05:58
farruinnagt: test as in see if a partitions is mounted automatically when you start?05:58
agtfarruinn,  yes05:58
farruinnagt: 'sudo shutdown -F now' then ctrl-d (or something like that) will allow you to boot up faster05:58
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tonyyarussoDoes anyone know how to create a device?  (I'm still trying to get configure-thinkpad to work.)05:59
farruinnhm, that's not explained well, but shutdown -F now will be faster than doing reboot from the logout dialog05:59
CaNsAmustard5, ill brb im gonna seee if this modem works on the ubuntu machine05:59
agtfarruinn, i understand :) thx all06:00
_native_tonyyarusso, im not sure about this but you could read the  manual for MKDEV.06:00
tonyyarusso_native_: I'll check that.  There are supposedly tools that do it, but they're not working.06:00
_native_*manual for MAKEDEV.06:01
mustard5doh..I just found the speedtouch threads in the forum tooo06:01
_native_ive never had to create a device in ubuntu though06:01
_native_only slackware06:01
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_native_tonyyarusso, read man hotplug, man udev, and the see also stuff.06:02
_native_as well06:02
CalrenHi all, I'm new to linux. Could someone walk me through setting up a wireless card using the realtek 8180 chipset? The forums are a bit overwhelming06:02
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_native_gosh if people would just by linux friendly hardware. :-)  j k06:03
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_native_i wish vendors would get with the program06:04
Calrenhey, I got the card free with the laptop, free = good :P06:04
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cdubyaI had enabled dma on the cd/dvd combo drive on this laptop last night, but it apparently wasn't a permanent solution as a restart brought the system back to choppy dvd playback. How do I set this up so that every time I boot the cd/dvd will have dma enabled so that the dvd's will play right?06:05
_native_i was just playin06:05
tritium_native_, this is not a political forum06:05
mkyb14after installing the legacy drivers for my old riva tnt 16mb card the nvidia screen spashes.... but my resolution settings won't change from 640x480.... it used to before i upgraded to breezy.  anyone have a solution?06:06
_native_tritium, little late are we.06:06
tritium_native_, doesn't matter06:06
mustard5cdubya, what method did you use to enable DMA the first time?06:06
cdubyahdparm, but I don't exactly remember the two commands......06:06
pepsi_mkyb14, did you do `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`?06:06
mustard5Calren, you seen the wiki guides (as opposed to the forum guides)?06:07
mkyb14negative, never had to do that before... is that the command?06:07
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mustard5cdubya, k..one second, I will find something for you06:07
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cdubyamustard5, cool, thanks06:07
Calrennot yet, have spent the last hour trying to make sense from the forums. right now I don't even know exactly which vendor this card is from06:07
mustard5cdubya, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA06:07
cdubyapepsi_, I thought for some reason that I read that method breaks stuff with x.org.....but I may be off my rocker....06:08
cdubya:)06:08
mustard5cdubya, in this guide you edit a file somewhere, I assume that makes it permanent06:08
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mkyb14ahh i don't want to break it again...06:08
pepsi_cdubya, ?!06:08
pepsi_thast hwo ive always done it in ubuntu06:08
cdubyaerr, maybe I'm confused.06:08
pepsi_works fine06:08
pepsi_screw editing the file :P06:08
cdubyamaybe I'm thinking of manually editing the file....:-P06:08
pepsi_it makes it for you06:08
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cdubyaheh06:08
mustard5ubotu:tell Calren about wifi06:09
cdubyanow that I think about it, you're right....06:09
Nihilbjv, i'm here06:09
n0odl3i just made a file and im trying to run it using ./*filename06:09
n0odl3however there are several option such as -h06:09
n0odl3how do i run those options?06:09
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mkyb14oh.... ok with the xorg thing... the card is made by nvidia, but is a  riva tnt06:09
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bjvNihil: alright, well i guess do a    fsck -N /dev/hdb106:09
Nihilok, i will do it in a second06:10
bjvNihil: it will say something like:06:10
bjvfsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)06:10
bjv[/sbin/fsck.vfat (1) -- /mnt/data]  fsck.vfat -f /dev/hda506:10
mustard5Calren, ah ok..that might be something you need to know06:10
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amonkeyhow can i restrict access to a particular domain? i told the domain to resolve to 127.0.0.1 in hosts, but that didn't seem to do anything.06:10
Nihilnihil@Olidata:~$ fsck -N /dev/hdb106:11
Nihilfsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)06:11
Nihilfsck: fsck.ntfs: non trovato06:11
Nihilfsck: Errore 2 eseguendo fsck. ntfs per /dev/hdb106:11
Nihilnihil@Olidata:~$06:11
tritiumNihil, please don't paste06:11
Nihiltritium, excuse me06:11
bjvtritium: sorry06:11
mustard5Calren, did you get the PM from ubotu about wifi?06:11
Calrenyep, reading it now06:11
rellikis there any reason to update my old ubuntu to the new version?06:11
bjvNihil: ok, so it said error 206:11
CaNsAmustard5... dude what does this mean --- usb 1-2: no stage 1 firmware found!06:11
farruinnanyone know why my iPod would stop automatically mounting when I plug it in?06:11
bjvNihil: man fsck    to see what that means. :|06:11
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tritiumbjv, no problem, thanks for helping people out06:11
BROKEN_LADDERDOES anyone know of any linux tools that will allow me to use google like a file system without having to email the file to myself?06:11
kleaeranyone?06:11
rellikhow do I delete a file that begins with the chars "-1" ?06:12
bjvtritium: fsck error 2's mean "system should be rebooted?"06:12
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naliothBROKEN_LADDER: ask uncle google about gmailfs06:12
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farruinnrellik: rm \-1etc maybe06:12
_native_ignorance is bliss, and murder.06:12
rellikfarruinn, nope :(06:12
tritiumbjv, I don't know for sure.  best to check06:12
mustard5CaNsA, I am only guessing but I think it means you need your firmware updated....I don't use wifi though..so take that with a grain of salt :)06:13
wangjinyuhao duo ren a06:13
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CaNsAi dont use wifi06:13
bjvtritium: well that's what the man page says.       im just trying to understand what that means.06:13
mustard5CaNsA, woops wrong person06:13
wangjinyu06:13
CaNsAlol06:13
mustard5CaNsA, sorry I thought you were Calren06:13
tritiumbjv, I'll check the manpage06:13
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_native_swee06:13
_native_*sweet06:13
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CaNsAfor the right price i can be06:13
mustard5CaNsA, haha06:14
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Nihili didn't found anything about error 2, bjv06:14
daakuanyone got tips on running a diagnostics on a new system to make sure everything is working right?06:14
mustard5ok CaNsA I have found a number of threads in the forum discussing speedtouch usb modems06:14
CaNsAu wanna pm the to me06:14
_native_daaku, use it thats the best test.06:14
_native_;-] 06:14
CaNsAsave spamming the channel06:14
tritiumbjv, yes, you're right06:14
mustard5CaNsA, I could realy them to you, but might be easier for you to run the search function and browse through them yourself06:14
CaNsAjammin06:15
kleaeri recently downloaded ubuntu and the files are on a different partition.. is it possible to boot from that partition to install ubuntu onto a linux partition? i dont have a cd burner06:15
bjvtritium: yes but what does that mean for Nihil?06:15
CaNsAu got an url?06:15
amonkeyhow can i get hosts to override ns lookups?06:15
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bjvtritium: the drive in question was hooked to a USB enclosure, got an error, and was unplugged.06:15
CaNsAim currently looking at http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php%3Fpid%3D43338&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522usb%2B1-2:%2Bno%2Bstage%2B1%2Bfirmware%2Bfound!%2522%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DKvD%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official_s%26sa%3DG06:15
Calrenmustard5: well, since it says no wireless extensions on both devices, I'm following the ndiswrapper how-to like the wifi page says to06:15
daaku_native_: good one. just wanna make sure i return whatever i have to before the return period expires :)06:15
BROKEN_LADDERholy cow.06:15
mustard5CaNsA, this is one thread...but there is a HOW TO for hoary..but I think in breezy you need to change stuff http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76529&highlight=usb+modem+speedtouch06:15
tritiumbjv, sorry, I've not followed your conversation06:15
bjvtritium: yeah.06:16
CaNsAcheers matey06:16
BROKEN_LADDERgmailfs will act as a filesystem that i can mount in linux?06:16
mustard5Calren, thats sounds like the right direction06:16
wangjinyuwhere are you from06:16
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mustard5CaNsA, I used these keywords for search 'usb modem speedtouch' it gets good results06:16
_native_daaku, what hardware are you worried about?06:16
kleaeranyone?06:16
wangjinyudisplaycard06:17
bjvNihil: a   sudo fsck /dev/hdb1      would probably fix your drive.06:17
Nihilno06:17
daaku_native_: all of it - just built it06:17
Nihilerror not fixed06:17
n0odl3does the option hafve to be piped?>06:17
bjvNihil: you did it without the -N ?06:17
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mustard5Nihil, is /dev/hdb1 unmounted?06:17
kleaeri recently downloaded ubuntu and the files are on a different partition.. is it possible to boot from that partition to install ubuntu onto a linux partition? i dont have a cd burner06:18
Nihilcan anyone kick my ghost nick Nihil85?06:18
bobbyd_native_, not from the command line...06:18
bjvmustard5: lol, is that what it means by "2 - System should be rebooted" ?06:18
mustard5Nihil, I"m late to this conversation so ignore me if I am going over old ground06:18
mkyb14sweet thanks PEPSI for the help06:18
cdubyamustard5, thanks for the link. Setup /etc/hdparm.conf, rebooted, and it worked wonderfully. Thanks.06:18
MadpilotNihil: you can ghost yourself...06:18
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daakuanyone know about performance tuning a fakeRAID system?06:18
_native_daaku, huh what?06:19
mustard5bjv, I'm pretty sure you need to unmount the drive for fsck to fix it..so a live CD would be useful06:19
NihilMadpilot, how ca i do this?06:19
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mustard5cdubya, np ;)06:19
daaku_native_: didnt come up with the name :p06:19
bjvmustard5: yeah. he is working off a 2nd drive.06:19
_native_daaku, did i miss somthing06:19
Nihilmustard5, it's a matter of broken HD, maybe06:19
rellikwhat program do you use to view images?06:19
Nihilbjv, i didn't use the -N06:19
daaku_native_: its RAID using dmraid, the cheap raid on the newer mb's06:19
mustard5bjv, ah ok..well just confirm its umounted then I suppose06:19
farruinnif anyone can help me mount my iPod so I can reproduce this crash I would be grateful06:20
mustard5Nihil, hopefully not :)06:20
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daaku_native_: the howto on the wiki calls it that06:20
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MadpilotNihil: /msg nickserv help06:20
bjvNihil: yeah, he thinks that the error 2 is trying to tell you to unmount the partition.06:20
mustard5farruinn, I have no idea about ipods unfortunately :)06:20
bjvNihil: and i suppose i didnt actually tell you to umount it before fsck. :P06:20
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_native_daaku, check out bonnie.06:21
farruinnmustard5: it used to just mount automagically, don't know why it's not now06:21
mustard5farruinn, how do they connect? usb?06:21
farruinnmustard5: this one is firewire06:21
farruinnI'm not sure what really goes on when it connects because there's no fstab entry or anything06:22
kleaeri recently downloaded ubuntu and the files are on a different partition.. is it possible to boot from that partition to install ubuntu onto a linux partition? i dont have a cd burner06:22
_native_daaku, i dont know i just run my systems hard and long, and if they dont crash its good or me.06:22
Nihilbjv, what should i do now?06:22
mustard5farruinn, yeah..I have no idea how they work soz :)06:22
mustard5Nihil I would unmount and run fsck again06:22
Nihilunmount?06:23
Nihilwhy?06:23
farruinnyou can't fsck a mounted partitoin06:23
mustard5Nihil because you can't fsck a mounted partition06:23
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mustard5Nihil, therefore it would seem the appropriate action is to umount the drive and then direct fsck to check that drive06:24
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Nihil85but i mounted it a moment ago06:25
Nihil85it was inside in a HD box, mustard506:25
mustard5Nihil85, so your problem is fixed now?06:25
drummerAnyone know of a way to find out what version of gcc was used to compile the Ubuntu kernel?06:25
Nihil85nomed, it's not fixed06:25
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mustard5Nihil85, I'm not talking about taking it out of the box06:25
Nihil85bjv, are you here?06:25
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Agrajagdrummer: cat /proc/version06:26
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Agrajag(gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8))06:26
drummerAgrajag: thanks !06:26
Agrajagdrummer: if you install gcc-3.4 you'll have that same version06:26
theineWow, I just noticed that xfwm4 works extremely well as a replacement for metacity06:26
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Nihil85bjv, are you here?06:27
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Agrajagyou'll have to set $CC to point to the right gcc version to build modules and so on06:27
bjvNihil85: yeah, just hit it with a   sudo umount -l /dev/hdb1   or whatever06:27
icemanso, have they started work on the next release of ubuntu...06:27
bjvNihil85: and once it is unmounted       sudo fsck /dev/hdb106:27
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tritiumiceman, http://fridge.ubuntu.com06:28
bjvNihil85: do it with  -N   the 1st time though06:28
Nihil85jbv, i'm in private06:28
bjvgottcha.06:29
Nihil85jbv, i'm in private with you!06:29
drummerAgrajag:  I've been having a problem installing VMWare.  Keeps telling me that there is a compiler mismatch.06:30
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nauseaboyhas anyone been playing much with enlightenment?06:30
Calrenmustard5: no matter how I try it, typing the same case or all lower/upper, I keep getting "cp: cannot stat '/home/calren/wifi/NET8180.INF': No such file or directory06:30
Agrajagdrummer: that's what I did, installed gcc-3.4 and changed $CC to point to /usr/bin/gcc-3.406:31
mustard5Calren, and the file does exist in that directory?06:31
Agrajagoh, you'll need the kernel headers package too06:31
drummerAgrajag: the cat /proc/version > 3.3.5 but synaptic shows only 3.3, 3.4 and 406:31
daakuok, made a stupid mistake. how do i go to single user mode in grub (guess it doesnt work like lilo)06:31
Calrenmustard5:: yes, but it's Home and Calren, could the directory case be doing it?06:31
Agrajagjust get 3.4, it'll work, I install vmware 5 just last week06:31
Agrajaginstalled06:31
drummerAgrajag: ok I'll install 3.4 and set CC to that before I run the install.06:31
Agrajagthat should do it06:32
rellikis there any way to browse a SMB network if you don't know the names of any SMB servers on that network?06:32
tritiumdaaku, you should have a recovery mode listed06:32
drummerAgrajag: thanks again.06:32
Agrajagno problem06:32
daakutritium: figured out how to edit the kernel options06:33
rellikthat is, a text-based SMB network browser..  don't think smbclient can browse if not given the name of a server06:33
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tritiumdaaku, okay, but by default you also should have recovery mode choices in your menu06:33
mustard5Calren, it is case sensitive yes06:33
heero1711Hello, everybody06:33
relliknm..  smbtree does it06:33
daakutritium: yea, saw that, wasnt sure if that would work06:33
Calrenmustard5:: okay, / before home or no?06:34
daakutritium: what does that do exactly? same thing - single user mode?06:34
tritiumdaaku, yes, it is single user mode06:34
mustard5Calren, have you used the autocomplete feature with <TAB> key before?06:34
Calrennope06:34
heero1711:S my Keyboard dont works in X, .. any idea, i had update it, from Hoary to Breezy06:34
daakutritium: cool06:34
heero1711Maybe i need change something in xorg.conf ?06:34
Calrenall typing for an hour, haha06:34
mustard5Calren, type cd /h<then hit TAB key>06:35
mshadeheero1711: if the Driver line has "keyboard" change it to "kbd"06:35
heero1711oh, thanks i will look, that. =)06:35
mustard5Calren, if you hit <TAB> twice it will list all available options06:35
mshadeheero1711: but normally X will error out if that's the case, rather than starting up without keyboard support06:35
Calrenmustard5:: root@fenrir:/home#06:35
mustard5Calren, I may be explaining this badly :)06:36
heero1711mm i have another question, why xorgconfig not are in /usr/X11R6/bin ? .. is normal ?06:36
Calrenmustard5:: that's fine, you're at least trying :)06:36
mshadeheero1711: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'06:37
mustard5lets check it one step at a time, Calre06:37
mustard5cd /home/06:37
mustard5Calren, cd /home/   then cd /Calren/ mabye06:38
Calrenno such file/dir, yet I can look at file broswer and see it06:38
heero1711xD thanks, let me try .. i will back06:38
BROKEN_LADDERhow does one set the user and group of a mount?06:38
mshademustard5: leave off the leading / on Calren/06:38
mshadecd /home/Calren should work06:38
mustard5Calren, what mshade said :)06:39
mshadeif /home/Calren exists...06:39
mustard5cd /home/Calren/wifi/ is our goal mshade :)06:39
Calrenusing cd calren/ has now placed me with this: root@fenrir:~#06:39
FlannelKingAnyone know anything about Enterprise Volume Management Services? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with it?06:39
mustard5mshade he has an inf file in there for his ndiswrapper mshade06:39
mshadeCalren: pwd shoudl now return "/home/calren/'06:40
GURThow do i remove Gnome themes that i've installed via the theme prefrences?06:40
mshadeCalren: pwd will always return your 'present working directory'06:40
Calrenmshade:: yep, so far so good06:40
mshadeCalren: now 'ls' will show you the contents of your 'pwd'06:40
mustard5Calren, you can always type ls to confirm what the directory names inside are06:40
mustard5mshade, your mind seems to be working with more clarity than mine atm :)06:41
Calrenls returns Calren and Desktop06:41
BROKEN_LADDERhas anyone here gotten gmailfs to work?06:41
BROKEN_LADDERim' getting a login failure06:41
Calrenweird since I should be in Calren06:41
mshadeCalren: you probably inadverantly created another directory named calren06:41
mshadeCalren: so now you've got /home/calren/Calren06:41
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mshadeCalren: try 'cd Calren/wifi06:42
tritiumBROKEN_LADDER, did you already build the fuse modules?06:42
Calrenmshade:: probably06:42
dooglusbur[n] er: yesterday you asked "Anyone know of an 'eyedropper' tool for gnome that will give me Hex & RGB of any pixel on my screen?".  I found an answer: "grabc is simple but useful program to determine the colour string in hex (or in RGB components) by clicking on a pixel on the screen"06:42
BROKEN_LADDERtritium fuse modules?06:42
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naliothtritium fuse modules? is there a timer with that?06:42
tritiumBROKEN_LADDER, read the output of "apt-cache show gmailfs"06:42
nemikhello is there any way from a shell to make a pop-u window message to a box i connected to via SSH?06:42
BROKEN_LADDERdidn't see anything about that in the readme06:42
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tritiumnalioth, yep :)06:42
Calrenmshade and mustard5:: woot, home/calren/Calren/wifi :D06:42
mshadebingo06:43
mustard5Calren, ok your off and running again ;)06:43
BROKEN_LADDERfuse-utils is already the newest version.06:43
BROKEN_LADDERthat?06:43
dooglusnemik: can you connect to the X server on the remote machine?06:43
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fatehazeHi guys06:43
tritiumBROKEN_LADDER, nope06:43
Calrenmustard5:: out the INF is installed right now :D06:43
BROKEN_LADDERwhat am i looking for?06:44
mshadeCalren: what wifi card is it, by the way06:44
nemikdooglus, not sure, i just SSH'd into it. i'm doing it from Putty on a....sigh....XP box06:44
tritiumBROKEN_LADDER, read the output of "apt-cache show gmailfs"06:44
fatehazeI'm thinking of installing Ubuntu for the first time on an old Mac iBook g3 clamshell06:44
fatehazeWhat kind of hardware support can I expect?06:44
fatehazeSpecifically, network-wise?06:44
dooglusnemik: what happens if you "DISPLAY=:0 xclock" for example?06:44
Calrenmshade:: not a clue which exactly, but it apepars to be running the RealTek 8180 chipset, since that's what it wanted under windows06:44
nemikdooglus, just put that in bash? ok i'll try...06:45
bjvwtf, this guy i was helping cant fsck his machine.06:45
bjvhis sudo suddenly stopped working.06:45
Calrenmshade:: device manger lists it as "RTL8180L 802.11b MAC"06:45
dooglusnemik: copy it exactly, yes06:45
mshadeCalren: try lspci |grep -i eth06:45
mshadeCalren: or lspci|grep -i net06:45
mshadeshould output what ya got06:45
dooglusnemik: it should show a clock on the remote display if you're lucky06:45
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BROKEN_LADDERtritium what am i looking for?06:45
nemikdooglus, Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server06:45
nemikso i guess not06:45
bjv   anyone familiar with this sudo error?06:46
bjvnihil@Olidata:~$ sudo fsck.vfat /dev/hdb106:46
bjvsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov  4 07:35:48 200506:46
tritiumBROKEN_LADDER, you need to build kernel modules, as the info tells you06:46
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BROKEN_LADDERi built it.06:46
BROKEN_LADDERjust now06:46
BROKEN_LADDERnow what? depmod -a?06:46
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Calrenmshade:: ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconduction Co., Ltd. RTL8180L 802.11b MAC (rev20)06:46
mustard5bjv, the date of the files does not match the date of the system clock I imagine...have you changed the system clock time or was it set wrong at some stage?06:47
mshadeCalren: thereya go :)06:47
tritiumBROKEN_LADDER, read the docs in /usr/share/doc/fuse-source.  I've not used it06:47
dooglusnemik: right.  you'll have to ask the remote X server to let you connect then.06:47
BROKEN_LADDERtritium FATAL: Error inserting fuse (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686-smp/kernel/fs/fuse/fuse.ko): Operation not permitted06:47
BROKEN_LADDERtritium i mean generically when building a new module.06:47
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bjvmustard5: i dont think Nihil85 changed the clock while i was helping him..06:47
BROKEN_LADDERwhat is the command to avaid rebooting?  i thought it was sudo depmod -a06:47
fatehazeIs installing linux on a Mac even a common thing?06:47
Nihil85sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov  4 07:35:48 200506:47
mustard5bjv, I think it occurs when the file is dated as being in the future or something06:48
tritiumfatehaze, yes, it is06:48
tritiumBROKEN_LADDER, right06:48
fatehazeCommon enough that I can expect decent hardware support?06:48
tritiumyes06:48
nemikdooglus, how would i do that? nm, i gotta learn. i'll read a bit about it; anything in particular i should see?06:48
bjvmustard5: so how does Nihil85 get his files back into the present?06:48
daakuok, not sure what to make of this: sensors has 2 alarms: for -12V (@-2.69) & -5V (@-2.49) - how bad is this?06:48
Calrenmshade:: iwconfig still doesn't show a wlan06:48
fatehazeI'm mainly worried about the airport and display06:48
mshadeCalren: ndiswrapper -l06:48
mustard5bjv I think you can 'touch' them somehow..I don't know how :)06:48
mshadeCalren: does it say driver and hardware present?06:48
Calrenyep06:49
mustard5bjv read manual for touch maybe?  man touch06:49
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mshadeCalren: modprobe ndiswrapper06:49
Madpilotdaaku: it could mean that your PSU is screwing up, and sending the wrong voltages to your hardware - which would be very bad for that hardware...06:49
mshadeif you haven't already06:49
daakufatehaze: i've got breezy on my powerbook, and other than the wireless, everything (*everything*) works perfect06:49
birdcan anyone help me with xfire for gaim???06:49
Calrenmshade:: done06:49
fatehazeReally?  Wireless, though... I really need my wireless06:50
benplautbird: what's xfire?06:50
mshadeCalren: iwconfig06:50
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Calrenmshade:: there it is! :D06:50
happyIRC  <IRC>  06:50
birdbenplaut its a protacal and i need help with the plugin06:50
birdbenplaut it says there is a plugin folder for gaim but i cant find it06:51
birdit says there is a plugin folder for gaim but i cant find it06:51
birdcan anyone help me with xfire for gaim???06:51
daakuMadpilot: ah, not good. any ideas if could it be a issue with how i set it up? or hardware defect?06:51
Calrenmshade:: now moving on to connecting to my wlan, which is encrypted. Thanks for you help so far, yours as well mustard506:51
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mustard5Calren, np :)06:52
mshadeCalren: you have the key handy?06:52
daakufatehaze: no support, gotta bug broadcom for that. iirc, some project on sf is trying to reverse engineer the chipset06:52
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mshadeCalren: are you in X on ubuntu?06:52
Calrenmshade:: off the top of my head, yes06:52
Calrenmshade:: what's X?06:52
fatehazeCurses06:52
daakufatehaze: but considering that keyboard backlights, automatic brightness control, suspend and everything else works, i'm not complaining06:53
mshadeCalren: i just meant, are you using the graphical system (gnome) on ubuntu right now06:53
fatehazeTrue, and neither would I, but I work night audit in a hotel with only wireless :P06:53
Madpilotdaaku: I'm not sure what it means - ask around some of the hardware/modding sites, maybe?06:53
Calrenmshade:: seeing as I have icons and whatnot ont he top, I'm going to say gnome with a terminal06:53
mshadeCalren: at the top.. go to System > administration > networking06:53
mshadeCalren: choose the wireless device (which should now show up), and you can set your encryption settings there06:53
Calrendesire2106:53
Calrencrap, haha06:54
cgefatehaze: I have a white Ibook 600Mhz and the wireless works.06:54
Calrenmaybe having the lap and this baord on the same table is bad? :D06:54
fatehazeOh really?06:54
daakuMadpilot: will do. thanks06:54
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heero1711:S06:54
mshadeCalren: heh i've done that before06:55
cgefatehaze: yes - it was working in hoary, if I recall correctly.06:55
daakufatehaze: yup. linux hw support has come a long way :)06:55
fatehazeFabulous :D06:55
heero1711dont works my keyboard, only some keys, i has try with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and nothing :(06:55
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fatehazeLinux is the best reason to have old-ass hardware06:55
heero1711any idea?06:55
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cgefatehaze: Some things didn't work quite right - iwlist scan didn't work.06:55
Calrenmshade:: okay, in the properties, got the ESS entered and putting in wep06:55
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fatehazeWell, the live cd just finished, I'm gonna give it a shot06:56
fatehazeThanks for the help guys!06:56
cgefatehaze: Ok06:56
Calrenmshade:: if I got it right, how long should it take to active the interface?06:56
heero1711:S06:57
mshadeCalren: really shouldn't take too long, but iv'e seen it take a little while.06:57
birdit says there is a plugin folder for gaim but i cant find it06:57
birdcan anyone help me with xfire for gaim???06:57
Calrenmshade:: "The interface wlan0 is active"06:57
mshadeCalren: ping www.google.com06:57
mshadeCalren: from your terminal06:57
i3dmasterI installed a new sound card, but can get it to work. help06:58
mustard5Calren, thats a literal command too  'ping www.google.com'06:58
Calrenmshade:: unknown host06:58
mshadeCalren: no dice :|06:58
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mshadeCalren: iwconfig should show the key you entered, check it again06:58
mustard5mshade, dns issue?06:58
mshadeCalren: does ifconfig show an ip for wlan0?06:59
mshademustard5: if he has an IP address dynamically assigned to him then yes, it's probably a dns issue.  if no IP is assigned, probably still a driver issue.06:59
Calrenmshade:: k, something's not right, there 20 digits in the key area, and no06:59
mustard5mshade, I'm trying to take all this in for the future :)06:59
mshadeCalren: you need the actual hex key taken from the router06:59
mshadeCalren: a passphrase doesn't work yet, i don't think, with ndiswrapper07:00
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CalrenI'm looking at the wireless security tab for my Linksys router07:00
bjvha! nihil85 has a problem..07:00
bjv"nihil@Olidata:~$ touch /usr/bin/sudo07:01
bjvtouch: cannot touch `/usr/bin/sudo': Permission denied"07:01
bjv"nihil@Olidata:~$ sudo touch /usr/bin/sudo07:01
bjvsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov  4 07:35:48 2005"          :P07:01
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mshadeCalren: when you put in the key, did you use hex or the passphrase?07:01
wickedpuppybjv, why you need to touch sudo ?07:01
mustard5bjv..hehe circular :)07:01
wickedpuppyi say its recursive07:01
bjvNihil  cant fsck the drive im helping him fix07:02
bjvthe error is "DATE IN TEH FUTZOR"07:02
Calrenmshade:: I entered key 1, however in Ubuntu I left it on ASCII, which I bet was a Very Bad Thing07:02
bjvi guess he is just going to reboot.07:02
Calreniwconfig07:02
Calrenerr07:02
mshadeCalren: heh07:02
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bjvstrange that sudo would suddenly stop working because of a time conflict07:02
bjvat like 4:00 in the afternoon07:02
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heero1711hello, i has change keyboard for KBD, but my keyboard still dont works, any idea_07:03
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heero1711? .. only works some keys :S07:03
Calrenmshade:: okay, now the encryption key is right, just weird that is has dashes in it. meh, oh well07:03
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Calrenmshade:: ping works tho07:03
mshadeCalren: congrats, you're done.07:03
mustard5Calren, well done :)07:04
mshade:)07:04
Calrenwoooot!07:04
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Nihil85bjv, i'm in privaste with you07:04
Calrenmshade, mustard5, thank you both very much :D07:04
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Calrenmshade:: now how do I stop the pinging?07:04
mshadeCalren: control-c in the terminal07:04
Nihil85ctrl+c07:04
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Nihil85bjv07:05
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mustard5Calren, you know where to find us when you next have a problem :)07:06
Calrenmshade:: now, while you two are around, anything I can do about this godawful parchment color where white should be? :D07:06
mustard5Calren, whats that in?07:06
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mshadeCalren: poke around in system --- preferences07:07
Calrenmustard5:: as an example, going to www.google.com I'm used to a white background, instead it's parchment, the same color as the menus07:07
mustard5Calren, ah in firefox?07:07
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Calrenmustard5:: yeah07:07
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mustard5Calren, not too sure actually :)  I'm not a very fussy browser user it looks good to me :)07:08
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mustard5Calren, I have heard  a lot of people say they don't like the look of firefox on ubuntu07:08
nuxvomicamustard5: there's always opera07:08
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mustard5Calren, I guess its in the eye of the behoider :)07:09
Calrenmustard5:: goodies, my fav browser is Teh Ugly :(07:09
Calrenmustard5:: this beholder is going to see how far this whole "customize everything" thing will go :P07:09
mshadeCalren: it has something to do with themes.  unfortunately, i've only been using gnome about a week now.  don't know a thing about how to change an indiviual parameter in this theme 'human'07:09
mustard5Calren, hehe...well try not to break to much straight away :D07:10
all4nhey, I have a folder full of images(fullsize, and thumbnails) here, and am trying to convert only the fullsize images ..  I tried using  a 'find -type f ' command, but don't know how to exclude files with the name 'thumb07:10
all4n' in the filename.. any suggestions?07:10
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Calrenmustard5:: give me a sec guys, going to switch to xchat on the lap07:11
mustard5Calren I've seen some pretty amazing looking customisations in the forum07:11
mustard5Calren, k07:11
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alekzhi, how can i control my microphone's volume ?07:12
Calrenmshade, you said you saw some themes on the forums?07:12
mustard5alekz, double click on the master volume thing top right corner of your screen07:12
mshadeCalren: nah, mustard did07:12
mustard5alekz, and go to the capture tab07:12
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mustard5Calren, on the ubuntu forums there are lots of customisation threads07:13
mustard5Calren, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/index.php07:13
cansa_what tells ubuntu where to look for firmware? and where does it look?07:13
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mshadecansa_: it's in /usr/local/lib/hotplug/firmware07:14
cansa_ok, and what tells it to lok ther?07:14
cansa_there*07:14
cansa_look* ffs too much coffee and not enuff sleep07:15
mustard5Calren, this one was interesting to me http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694&highlight=gdesklets07:15
mshadecansa_: /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent tells it to look there07:15
cansa_ok07:15
Calrenmustard5, k, checking it out, thanks07:15
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cansa_so in theory, if i have edited the firmware.agent to look in /lib/hotplug/firmware for the firmware that i place there07:16
mshadecansa_: yup, then restart hotplug07:17
cansa_then the device that ubuntu needs the firmware for should work07:17
coolkevi look inside firewall firestarter and i see a bunch of active connection to bittorrent, but i've shut down bittorrent long ago, how do i get rid of thse active connection07:17
mshadecansa_: right.  or use the dir it already uses07:17
alekzanyone here uses skype ?07:17
alekzi cant listen or talk with my friends :S07:17
cansa_see ive done this but it still gives me a  usb 1-2: no stage 1 firmware found! error at me07:18
mustard5alekz, do you have other sound devices going at the same time?07:18
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mustard5alekz, enter this in terminal ps -e | grep esd    and tell me what it says07:19
alekzmustard5, amarok and gaim, but i followed a guide to have sounds with all my apps07:19
alekzwait pls07:19
mustard5k07:19
alekzi use ALSA not esd07:19
cansa_mshade, any ideas?07:19
mustard5alekz, I don't think skype likes other sound devices07:19
alekzthen i should set esd to use skype ?07:20
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mustard5alekz, if you know how..I wouldnt have a clue :)07:20
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mustard5alekz, for me I just shut down all other stuff when using skype07:21
alekzok mustard5 i'll try it :)07:21
alekzthanks07:21
mustard5mp07:21
mustard5np07:21
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bobbyhow does one set the dns so it doesn't die on reboot...ubuntu keeps losing the setting when I do it through the gui tool07:22
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PuGzhey guys, i have installed fluxbox in breezy and it says foo in the gdm login manager instead of fluxbox, and then if i select foo, it doesnt start. is this a known bug? how do i fix it?07:23
mustard5you scared everyone off bobby ;)07:23
bobbyyay :)07:23
alekzmustard5, i found something: Skype's audio device is /dev/dsp <--- is that right ?07:23
PuGzyes07:24
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rellikbobby: dunno about the gui..  check out /etc/resolv.conf07:24
mustard5alekz,  I honestly have no clue :)07:24
alekzok mustard5 thanks anyway :)07:24
mustard5alekz,  good luck07:24
PuGzanyone here use fluxbox?07:24
alekz;)07:24
holycowftp://ftp.oqo.com/unsupported/linux/  <-- wow07:25
holycowoqo.com doesn't support linux, but they certainly have debs up there07:25
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mustard5PuGz, the silence is deafening :)07:26
rellikdoesn't unsupported mean their tech support doesn't support it?07:26
holycowftp://ftp.oqo.com/unsupported/linux/OQOLinux.html  <-- and of course comlementary html07:26
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holycowrellik, correct07:26
PuGzmustard5: hehe07:27
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PuGzmustard5: you use fluxbox?07:27
mshadePuGz: actually, i do.. but not on debian/ubuntu07:27
mustard5PuGz, nope07:27
PuGzmshade: cheers anyway07:27
mshadecheers :)07:27
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versatilealright, I admit it I am complete noob to ubuntu. what is the best channel for questions?07:27
jossKawabunga! The traditional KDE Control Center has been replaced with KDE System Settings. This change is not part of KDE, but is unique to Kubuntu. The new interface is cleaner, faster, simpler and comes with improved usability features such as quick search.07:27
bur[n] erPuGz: it shows up as "fluxbox" here07:28
josshas anyone tried that?07:28
n0odl3does anyone know how to use xgbnu?07:28
holycowhttp://flipstart.com/aboutproduct_features_sizeandpower.asp  <-- i want this of course when its out07:28
joss5.1007:28
mshadeversatile: probably this one :)07:28
mustard5versatile, you have arrived there:)07:28
mshadePuGz: did you have a question about flux, or just askin?07:28
PuGzbur[n] er: what you reckon, uninstall and reinstall07:28
PuGzmshade: my fluxbox shows up as "foo" in the gdm menu07:28
mshade:S07:29
mshadethat's weird.07:29
bur[n] erPuGz: i assume you restarted gdm?07:29
PuGzyes07:29
PuGzhang on... it appears it wasnt installed!07:29
PuGzaptitude is installing it now07:29
bur[n] erlol07:29
PuGzwhat the hell!?07:29
PuGzi told aptitude to install it 2 days ago!07:29
versatilewell here i go then.  I am trying to change xorg.conf file but it is read only.  I figured I need to log on as root but I don't see how?07:30
bur[n] erproblem solved, crisis averted :)07:30
PuGzmaybe it got half way and stuffed up and hence the foo?07:30
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all4nhey, I have a folder full of images(fullsize, and thumbnails) here, and am trying to convert only the fullsize images ..  I tried using  a 'find -type f ' command, but don't know how to exclude files with the name 'thumb' in the filename..  any suggestions?07:30
PuGzbur[n] er: yep... cheers anyway07:30
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n0odl3what is bz2?07:30
mshadebzip207:30
bur[n] erbz2 == compressed file07:30
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PuGzn0odl3: like a zip07:30
nuxvomicaanyone has tried looking glass desktop?07:31
mustard5all4n, you might benefit from studying command line switches07:31
mustard5all4n, I have no idea myself07:31
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PuGznuxvomica: not me... looks interesting but too heavy07:31
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bur[n] ersays the uber-minimalist ;)07:31
all4nmustard5, I am studying find and grep, and piping..  but havent found an answer yet07:32
cafuegoall4n: What are the filename masks? Just random?07:32
PuGzall4n: you want to do a find, but exclude things with thumb in the name?07:32
all4ncafuego, yeah..  I just want to exclude files that have 'thumb' in the filename07:32
all4nPuGz, yeah07:32
nuxvomicaPuGz: looks cool. want to impress someone with it..07:32
PuGzok07:32
PuGzlet me try and find out07:32
PuGzi wann know that myself07:32
cafuegoall4n: mkdir thumb; mv *thumb* thumb/; mycommand *; mv thumb/* .; rmdir thumb07:32
all4ncafuego, not very elegant  :p07:33
wickedpuppyawk or sed would be better ?07:33
all4ncafuego, and I am also searching in several subfolders07:33
nuxvomicaall4n: find -name *thumb* (?)07:33
cafuegoall4n: Are you using -exec for processing or piping via xargs?07:34
nuxvomicaall4n: find . -name *thumb* (?)07:34
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cafuegonuxvomica: Yes, those are the files he DOESN'T want.07:34
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cafuegoall4n: ?07:35
all4nokay, I know that I can pipe all the images I want to convert using just this command: 'find -type f | convert -resize blabla'07:35
vbgunzIt it normal to have several of the same processes running/sleeping at once? I have 7 copies of "hald-addon-storage", 6 copies of "getty", 2 copies of "gdm", 3 copies of "usb-storage", and plenty of 2 copies of everything else... No other GDM sessions should be running and I am the only one logged in... Is this an issue? Should I just start killing processes? Is this normal?07:35
versatileAny tips on gaining root in ubuntu?07:35
cafuegoall4n: Ok, then you can simply insert a "grep -v thumb |"07:35
mshadeversatile: sudo bash07:35
all4nnuxvomica, that command just seemed to find all files with thumb07:35
bjvvbgunz: wtf, do you hibernate or something instead of shutting down?07:35
mshadeversatile: sudo passwd root07:35
mshadeversatile: to set a root password you can log into/ su to07:36
vbgunzbjv I never hibernated at all on this pc...07:36
cafuegoa;SO it would be come 'find -type f | grep -v thumb | convert -resize blabla'07:36
PuGzall4n: from the grep manual... -v, --invert-match07:36
PuGz              Invert the sense of matching, to select non-matching lines.07:36
bur[n] er!tell versatile about sudo07:36
nuxvomicaall4n: ok so *not* thumb... ok sorry07:36
all4ncafuego, trying now..  thangs  :)07:36
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mustard5vbgunz, I think you will find they are forks from the original process07:36
bjvvbgunz: getty is normal.     afaik though you shouldnt have 2 gdm07:36
vbgunzbjv: Could it be when I step away and the PC relaxes overnight, it goes into hibernation? If so, how can I tell?07:36
nuxvomicaall4n: then move all the thumb things to a directory when you find it07:36
nuxvomicaall4n: then the rest are all "non-thumbs"07:37
all4ncafuego, yeah! that worked!  rocks!  thanks  :)07:37
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bjvvbgunz: no hibernation is writing the current memory to disk and cloning it again and again07:37
benplautanyone knwo how to change the name of your computer?07:37
bjvvbgunz: the PC is dead and cold, and can be unplugged/disassembled07:37
vbgunzbjv: is there a clean up script for duplicate processes?07:37
mustard5benplaut, hostname?07:37
all4noops, that thanks was supposed to go to PuGZ..07:37
cafuegoall4n: That's still not elegant, though :-)07:37
benplautmustard5: "hostname newname"?07:38
n0odl3PuGz: how do i unzip it?07:38
FlannelKingAnyone know anything about Enterprise Volume Management Services? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with it?07:38
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bur[n] ern0odl3: file-roller07:38
mustard5benplaut, I'm think yes, but don't quote me on that :)07:38
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vbgunzbjv: do you mean, that when the PC hibernates, it creates a clone and starts up with that clone *over* already running processes of the same type?07:38
happyIRC  <IRC>  07:38
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bjvvbgunz:  clean up script?   sudo kill -9 -107:38
PuGzn0odl3: is it a .tar.bz2 ?07:38
topylibjv, vbgunz: i do have two gdm processes. gdm spawns another gdm, which then runs gnome-session07:38
n0odl3PuGz: yes07:38
PuGzn0odl3: what environment are you in? gnome?07:39
benplauti mean as in the breezy@ben:~$07:39
benplaut, change the ben part07:39
n0odl3PuGz: Openbox07:39
bjvvbgunz: no, it writes itself to disk. then powers off.     on startup you clone the disk back to memory07:39
vbgunztopyli: thanks for the confirmation07:39
bjvwrather then a fresh reboot07:39
bur[n] ern0odl3: tar xvfj blah.tar.bz2 from a term :)07:39
vbgunzbjv what would sudo kill -9 -1 do?07:39
n0odl3thnx07:39
mustard5benplaut, if you cat /etc/hostname you can see the file07:39
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bjvvbgunz: "cleans up"  processes.07:39
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mustard5benplaut, it only has one word in it07:39
benplautk07:39
n0odl3because im aiming to get better07:39
PuGzn0odl3: in a terminal, type "tar xjf foo.tar.bz2"07:39
vbgunzbjv: ok, will try it07:39
benplautdidn't work07:40
bjvvbgunz: wait07:40
bur[n] eri beat ya PuGz ;)07:40
vbgunzbjv: yeah07:40
PuGzbur[n] er: bastard!07:40
bjvvbgunz: kill -9 -1    kills all the processes you control07:40
mustard5benplaut, I'm curious whether you could do it in the network gui07:40
bjvvbgunz: sudo kill -9 -1      kills everything root can control07:40
PuGzn0odl3: bur[n] er's v adds verbose output07:40
benplautyeah07:40
bjvvbgunz:  get me?07:40
Blonde_20www.stanly.com.ar07:40
vbgunzbjv: yes, should I run it twice?07:40
bjvvbgunz: whatever.07:41
PuGzBlonde_20: whats this nasty.exe crap?07:41
PuGzBlonde_20: are you trying to send linux users a windows virus? hahah!07:41
vbgunzbjv: ok07:41
topylii wouldn't kill all processes, that would be rebooting. something like init might be good to have :)07:41
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PuGzBlonde_20: i laugh at your crappy efforts!07:41
Blonde_20no it no07:41
cafuegoall4n:  find . -type f -not -name "*thumb*"07:41
PuGzBlonde_20: what is it then blondy?07:41
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PuGznasty.exe07:41
benplautin a linux channel, hilarious :D07:42
PuGzcafuego: nice07:42
benplautshould someone call the ops?07:42
bur[n] erPuGz: nasti.exe ;)07:42
cafuego!ops07:42
ubotuhmm... ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth07:42
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naliothcafuego: yes?07:42
all4ncafuego, trying that now07:42
luke_uh, how do I get root on my badger box?07:42
cafuegonalioth: Looks like Blonde_20 is an infected mIRC user or an idiot.07:42
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bur[n] ernalioth: Blonde_20 is spreading nasti.exe windows malware!!! ;)07:42
Blonde_20[bur[n] er]  hello07:42
Blonde_2007:43
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cafuegonalioth: or both07:43
naliothcafuego: will that do it?07:43
cafuegonalioth: thanks :-)07:43
mustard5benplaut, I can see a spot to change it in the network gui to change it, I can only assume it can be edited :)07:43
n0odl3i got a question about running a programming using the ./blah line07:43
benplautcommand line?!07:43
luke_i want to be able to access my windows partition (sda4) from linux, how do i set the appropriate permissions?07:43
cafuegoall4n:  find . -type f -not -name "*thumb*" -exec convert -resize resXxresY {} \;07:43
n0odl3how do i use an option with the ./blah line?07:44
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BROKEN_LADDERhttp://pastebin.com/41692807:44
cafuegoall4n: that's the proper one-liner. Converst non-thumb files to resX by resY pixels.07:44
all4ncafuego, ooh, now thats nice07:44
ubuntu:)07:44
BROKEN_LADDERanyone got gmailfs working?07:44
bur[n] er!tell luke_ about fat07:44
benplauteek!07:44
benplautnothing will open!07:44
ubuntuhi07:44
nuxvomicaluke_: chmod u+r /mnt/sda4 ?07:44
bur[n] erluke_: check yer msgs07:44
luke_i understand that since its NTFS i cant write, but I want to be able to read07:44
luke_ty07:44
cafuego!ntfs07:44
ubotuI guess ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions07:44
ubuntuluke07:44
all4ncafuego, you know if its possible to convert to only say.. 800 by whatever?  (so to keep the aspect ratio)07:45
mustard5benplaut your sudo gone wacky?07:45
bur[n] eroops... i assumed fat, see that NTFS line ;)07:45
ubuntuthere is package to download07:45
cafuegoall4n: Moment...07:45
ubuntuto be able to write and read ntfs07:45
benplautmustard5: no idea... nothing, period will open07:45
n0odl3ok...07:45
alekzanyone here has wengophone working ?07:45
nuxvomicaall4n: are you using gimp?07:45
GURTwhy do poeple do things like this? http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/22538161/07:45
benplautbrb, restarting X07:45
mustard5benplaut, recovery mode and put the hostname back to what it was07:45
luke_which package?07:45
all4nnuxvomica, no, just the convert command in the terminal07:45
n0odl3how do i know if im missing any libraries or whatever when i compile a program from source?07:45
cafuegoall4n: try 'convert -scale' (See manpage)07:46
ubuntuif you gimme a sec ill find out07:46
ubuntuI used it before07:46
ubuntuin a debian07:46
ubuntusarge07:46
all4ncafuego, all righty. .thanks again07:46
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cafuegoall4n: I tend to write me own using php and libgd support :-)07:46
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luke_ty07:47
PuGzn0odl3: you seem to have 3 unanswered questions07:47
benplautmustard5: ctrl+alt+F1 is my friend... everything working again :D07:47
luke_thanks guys!07:47
bur[n] erall4n: the man page is pretty lame, but "convert --help" may shed some light... it doesn't say how to define the values passed to -scale though07:47
all4ncafuego, ah, hehe... well, I'm only doing this this one time, so just a quick command to fix it is good enough07:47
mustard5benplaut, hehe lucky break ;)07:47
PuGzn0odl3: ask me them again?07:47
benplautyeah...07:47
all4nbur[n] er, I went to man imagemagick07:47
vbgunzbjv: I did "sudo kill -9 -1" and Ubuntu locked up...07:47
cafuegoall4n: Just the find .... -exec ... will do then :-)07:47
bur[n] ern0odl3: ldconfig?07:48
mustard5benplaut I've had a few people come through with sudo not working because it cant find the hostname07:48
all4nbur[n] er, oops, yeah.. thats also lame07:48
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Calrenmustard5, quick question, can you recomment a music player?07:48
bjvvbgunz: im really tempted to believe that your system is fine.07:48
benplautmustard5: heh, look at this: This will prevent you from launching new applications, and so you will have to log in again. Continue anyway?07:48
all4ncafuego, oh?  what is that -exec doing there?07:48
mustard5Calren, xmms or mplayer07:48
vbgunzbjv: It's running fine...07:48
all4ncafuego, can't I just pipe it with | ?07:48
Calrenthanks07:48
bjvvbgunz: it may be a bit bloated with a handful of tasks, but getty and gdm and others are probably not that far out of line.07:48
mustard5Calren, xmms is easier to get started07:48
cafuegoall4n: the -exec call runs the convert for you; {} is replaced with the filename.07:48
vbgunzbjv: i was just curious as I looked into gnome-system-monitor and saw extra processes and thought I ask about it07:49
bjvvbgunz: if it is running fine, then why not forget about how cluttered your ps -A is? lol07:49
vbgunzps -A?07:49
mustard5Calren, if xmms locks up when playing mp3  killall xmms and change the output setting in preferences07:49
bjvvbgunz: oh, yeah. if your still in GUI then yeah. just leave it. :P07:49
cafuegoall4n: the pipe will prolly work too, but keep in mind there's an upper limit to the amount of params to can pipe to the next commmand. -exec doesn't have that limit.07:49
bur[n] erps -a == similar to gnome-system-monitor07:49
all4ncafuego, aha07:49
vbgunzI am not an ubergeek yet bro ;)07:49
n0odl3PuGz: here are the questions... number one how do i use an option when i run a program that i just compiled (i.e. ./xgnuboy)07:49
bjvvbgunz: give it time.   try ps -A    or     man ps      in the console :P07:49
vbgunzthanks bur[n] er!07:49
cafuegoall4n: So you could still also run 'find . -type f | grep -v thumb | xargs convert -scale whatever07:50
n0odl3PuGz: number two how do i know if im missing if im missing any libraries or whatever when i compile a program from source?07:50
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vbgunzps -A is nice, thanks!07:50
PuGzn0odl3: ./foo --max-depth=007:50
PuGzn0odl3: ./foo -v07:50
PuGzn0odl3: that sort of thing?07:50
vbgunzI can run that from Console (Ctrl+Alt+F1) correct?07:50
n0odl3PuGz: yes07:50
PuGzn0odl3: did you do a configure, make and make install07:50
n0odl3PuGz: like that07:50
PuGzn0odl3: so does that answer the question?07:51
n0odl3PuGz: yeah i did07:51
mustard5benplaut, all good now?07:51
benplauteverything works, now i have some homework to do :(07:51
PuGzn0odl3: or do you want to know how to find what options exist?07:51
mustard5benplaut, k07:51
n0odl3PuGz: whenever i run ./xgnuboy --help it gives me the list of options again07:51
benplautthere went my excuse :] 07:51
PuGzn0odl3: so if it says the option is07:51
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PuGz"-v"07:51
PuGztype ./xgnuboy -v07:52
n0odl3ok07:52
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n0odl3let me try again07:52
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all4ncafuego, I did not even know I needed the xargs there for piping   :p  anyhow, I'll just go with the -exec, hopefully it will do the trick as soon as I can figure out how to scale the way I want07:52
budluvacan someone please send me in the right direction as to how to install drivers for my nvidia tnt2 (7174) drivers, the nvidia installer (.run) is doing nothing for me, apt-get install nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy doesnt do anything either07:52
vbgunzHey bjv, I really like the ps -A... How do I scroll up to see the contents when I Ctrl+Alt+F1? Currently, it scrolls direct to the bottom... Any advice?07:53
cafuegoall4n: neet ;-)07:53
n0odl3PuGz: i see thank you07:53
cafuegobudluva: Doesn't do anything? The command just exits and prints nothing?07:53
all4ncafuego, yah  :)07:53
bjvvbgunz: shift + pgup07:53
vbgunzbjv thanks, will try now07:53
PuGzn0odl3: no probs... is ur other question still needing answering?07:54
basic_im getting a loud beeping sound out of my left earphone07:54
basic_anyone had this problem?07:54
basic_its an intel ich5 onboard07:54
PuGzbasic_: when are you getting it? what desktop environment?07:54
basic_kde07:54
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basic_kubuntu07:54
ubuntuwell07:54
PuGzbasic_: and how often?07:55
ubuntuluke left07:55
basic_always07:55
bjverror dings in kde? and half broken earphones?07:55
bjvo_O07:55
nemiklinux is so cool!!! ubuntu base install is the best thing ever. command-line with apt-get for convenience. i just learned a decent part of this OS from scratch07:55
basic_earphones work great, they're spendy ones07:55
ubuntucaptive was the app to read and write intot NTFS form linux07:55
mustard5bjv nice guess :)07:55
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PuGznemik: nice07:55
cafuegobudluva: 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)-nvidia-legacy; sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'07:55
PuGzbasic_: have you checked out the sound system settings in kcontrol?07:55
basic_yeah, its none of that07:55
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budluvacafuego, EE NVIDIA(0) Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! EE Aborting! EE Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.....well i have added Load "glx" and removed the dri and GLcore modules from xorg.conf and replaced nv with nvidia, and it wont start, no matter what, if i go back to the "nv" driver x starts, but no glx :(07:55
ubuntuit evens download a service pack and amulates windows read/write07:55
PuGzbasic_: tried unloading and reloading the module?07:55
basic_it does it the second that i log in07:55
basic_no, how do i do that?07:56
basic_modprobe -r ?07:56
PuGzin a terminal as root: modprobe -r modname07:56
PuGzand then to reload07:56
bjvbasic_: kubuntu stacks up error dings fast, too.07:56
PuGzmodprobe modname07:56
vbgunzbjv: ooooh, tell me just one more thing please... When Ubuntu acts funny and the GUI gets locked up... how can I save it by killing the problematic process? I do "Ctrl+Alt+F1" then "ps -A" Shift+ Pageup... *but* What will I most likely be looking for in a problematic process?07:56
bjvthat's probably what it is.07:56
basic_hmm07:56
bjvvbgunz:  top   will sort by cpu/mem usage07:56
cafuegobudluva: need linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)-nvidia-legacy07:56
vbgunztop?07:57
heero1711PuGz my keyboard, dont works with breezy, :P any idea? .. i had try changing keyboard to kbd but nothing07:57
bjvvbgunz:  kill -9    sends the term signal07:57
basic_where are the modules at, im not sure which one it is07:57
budluvacafuego lemme try that...07:57
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PuGzvbgunz: type top in a terminal07:57
Chousukebjv: KILL signal :p07:57
vbgunzoh ok07:57
Chousuketerm is 15, iirc07:57
bjvvbgunz: kill -9  1234    would kill process 123407:57
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bjvChousuke: :P  thanks07:57
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PuGzheero1711: in a terminal try, Xorg -configure07:57
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PuGzheero1711: and see what xorg.conf it comes up with07:57
PuGzheero1711: first: check it is properly plugged in!07:57
basic_alsa-base ?07:57
ChousukeYou shouldn't use -9 unless the program refuses to die otherwise.07:57
vbgunzbjv: thanks this is a major tip?07:58
vbgunzsorry, I meant tip!07:58
heero1711mm and, why dont have xorgconifg anymore?07:58
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vbgunz:P07:58
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PuGzheero1711:  what do you mean?07:58
bjvvbgunz: the kill command is how to handle processes. the ps command is how you list em07:58
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vbgunzbjv: I love you... I will bake you a cake! I learned enough :D07:59
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PuGzheero1711: oh yeah... the command doesnt exist in breezy! why not?07:59
basic_i cant find the module my soundcard is using07:59
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Chousuke:p07:59
heero1711well, in my /usr/X11R6/bin,07:59
basic_it's not in /etc/modules07:59
PuGzbasic_: lsmod07:59
heero1711dont exist, in brezzy :S07:59
x_orAnyone here know how to restore the XP partition on a thinkpad t41?  Linux is crashing for me, and I want to verify that this is a hardware issue so that I can call IBM.  I tried booting by holding down the "Access IBM" key, but now I get "Authentication of system services failed."  Does this mean the HD is damaged?07:59
bjvvbgunz: i prefer my cakes built.07:59
benplautouch07:59
heero1711i dont know what happend, i just has update it from hoary07:59
vbgunzbjv: hehe ;) thanks man!07:59
bjvx_or: i do not know how to restore windows XP.07:59
basic_thx08:00
benplautgnome isn't best for low ram... using 166mb with OO.o, firefox, xchat and gaim08:00
bur[n] erheero1711: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"08:00
PuGzx_or: never heard of that! do you have any recovery cds?08:00
x_orI just wonder if someone else has a thinkpad t41.08:00
benplautx_or: T40 here08:00
vbgunzbenplaut: try icewm... its very simple and very fast08:00
basic_it says it's in use?08:00
bjvto /etc/X11/Xresources/xorg-common, adding  "lwm*focus: click"  doesnt modify the behavior of the program lwm. anyone know how ubuntu handles its xserver in this regard?08:00
Chousukebenplaut: aerghf08:00
bjvim at my wits end.08:00
benplautvbgunz: i have plenty, but for others...08:00
PuGzheero1711: bur[n] er's idea is good08:00
vbgunzbenplaut: some say enlightenment is faster *but* I don't like it :P08:00
heero1711i try with, that and, when i finish i test my configuration, but nothing.. dont works the keyboard08:00
Chousukebenplaut: OO.org sucks with low ram08:00
x_orNope, it doesn't appear that this model ships with recovery CDs.  They create a shadow partition that you can restore from, but doesn't appear to work.08:00
benplautChousuke: yeah08:00
Chousukebenplaut: use abiword08:00
Chousukeand fluxbox08:00
Chousukeand opera ;P08:00
bur[n] erx_or: boot your xp cd and run "fixboot" and "fixmbr" from a recovery console08:00
x_orI assume this is bad hardware, but the problem is when I call IBM and tell them Linux is crashing, they will say "we don't support linux, this is a linux issue."08:01
benplauti'm not complaing for myself, just kinda destroys the low resource myth for 'all linux'08:01
Chousuke(well, unless you want free software or cool extensions)08:01
vbgunzbrb08:01
x_orbur[n] er:  I have no recovery CD.08:01
bjvforget your fluxboxing and icewming.    we need to look at my problem.08:01
PuGzx_or: i have an ib, thinkpad t42p... you can make recovery cds from within windows if u can get into it... if not you can call them up and get them to send u some08:01
bjvbefore it goes off screen.08:01
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Chousukebenplaut: Which is right.08:01
bjvcrap, there it went.08:01
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bur[n] erx_or: you're up shit creek without a paddle then08:01
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PuGzx_or: they actually werent too bad when i told them i was using linux08:01
budluvacafuego, where were you 24 hours ago when know one knew how to help me?08:01
Chousukenot all software for linux will run on your grandma's machine08:01
x_orI was able to reformat the HD, repartition it, and then restore from the shadow drive before, but cannot now.  I am not sure if that is because of my ignorance or the HD is damaged.08:02
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PuGzx_or: but be careful what u say when u ask for the recovery cds... they may want to charge you $80 for them!08:02
x_orPuGz:  OK, good to know.08:02
cafuegobudluva: I was here, laughing.... ;-)08:02
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heero1711oh, :P repeat pleas i need add what in xorg-common ?08:02
PuGzx_or: tell them you made some recovery cds, but they dont seem to work now... the 1st cd is not bootable!08:02
PuGzx_or: they will send the new ones for free08:02
bur[n] erhere's a question for the erudite crowd here tonight... anyone know of an "eyedropper" tool that works to get a color from anywhere on your desktop?  (preferrably gtk-based, but anything effective will do)08:02
x_orGood advice, thanks.08:02
budluvacafuego, bastard :P08:03
PuGzx_or: good luck08:03
bur[n] ergimp has an eyedropper, but it only works on pixels in the gimp application :\08:03
bjvto /etc/X11/Xresources/xorg-common08:03
bjvadding  "lwm*focus: click"  doesnt modify the behavior of the program lwm08:03
bjvdo i have xresource syntax wrong or something?08:03
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cafuegobudluva: Ya gotta take it whereever you can get it ;-)08:03
budluvacafuego, actually, last night about this time i copied some bogus libs to /usr/libs, it was today that i had nvidia problems again :P08:03
PuGzx_or: btw, i am in australia. hope you have the same success wherever you are... i lost all my hdd stuff with WINDOWS! hehe... i had linux on it, but it was windows (and partition magic on the windows drive) that killed everything! i had to laugh08:03
n0odl3does anyone know how to build the quake 3 source?08:03
elkbuntubur[n] er, screenshot your desktop then open as a new file in gimp :)08:03
cafuegobudluva: (but really, i was out on site fixing an Win98 machine)08:04
bur[n] erelkbuntu: that's what i've been doing ;)  just curious... i have a nice windows tool, but haven't found a linux counterpart08:04
basic_yeah i cant unload snd_intel8x0 because it is in use08:04
heero1711bjv i dont know, when i start Xorg and next i exit from it,08:04
heero1711he sayme somthing like Warning KBD component08:04
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heero1711only that08:04
PuGzbasic_: killall -9 esd08:05
PuGzbasic_: then unload it08:05
basic_says no processeses killed08:05
bjvheero1711: and everyone in #xorg is dead. :\08:05
budluvacafuego, by fixing you mean install nix? :P08:05
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PuGzbasic_: does ps -A show esd or arts?08:05
cafuegobudluva: I'm not going there, not with this client.08:05
budluvahehe08:05
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heero1711i dont know :(08:05
budluvacafuego, what do you do?08:05
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heero1711well, i brb i will try again with X08:06
PuGzbasic_: "ps -A | grep esd", "ps -A | grep arts"08:06
n0odl3oh nevermind that question08:06
budluvacafuego, system admin or something? tech support?08:06
basic_just arts08:06
PuGzbasic_: killall -9 arts08:06
n0odl3PuGz: how do i check what commands are possible for ./blah08:06
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PuGzn0odl3: ./blah --help or man blah08:06
cafuegobudluva: Lotsa stuff. Ideally remote system maintenance, per hour or part thtreof ;-)08:06
basic_still says it's in use08:06
budluvanice08:06
budluvayou contract yourself? or you workin for the man?08:06
icewtkillall -9 artsd08:06
PuGzbasic_: try doing ps -A again... anything there that uses sound?08:06
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PuGzbasic_: stop all running programs that use sound08:07
cafuegobudluva: Got my own company.08:07
bur[n] ercafuego: ever use Reverse VNC to support folks?08:07
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cafuegobur[n] er: That assumes i *want* windows clients ;-)08:07
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bur[n] erlol, reverse vnc works with linux people too08:07
bur[n] erand mac08:07
cafuegobur[n] er: I want to get rid of those and let them call Dell or whoever. I'll keep the Linux box patched via apt-get.08:07
basic_ahh, it was gaim08:08
n0odl3PuGz: do you happen to know how to run an "RC"?08:08
heero1711damn..08:08
heero1711i Try with Xorg -configure and he sayme :P08:08
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n0odl3PuGz:i mean a config (rc) file?08:08
heero1711missing output devices08:08
heero1711:S08:08
PuGzn0odl3: what do you mean? RC often stands for release candidate, in that it is the trial release prior to release of official versoin08:08
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PuGzn0odl3: oh.. different08:08
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basic_fixed it, thanks PuGz08:09
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PuGzn0odl3: there is a file somewhere called foo.rc or foorc or .foorc that is the configuration file. often /etc/foorc or ~/.foorc. edit that file with any text editor (gedit)08:09
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PuGzbasic_: no probs, what was wrong08:09
PuGz?08:09
foxinessthere are command to kill program by + "i dont know but like this +"08:09
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basic_PuGz: it was the module that needed to be restarted, you were right, and gaim was using alsa for some reason (guess i forgot to disable the sounds?)08:10
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PuGzbasic_: cool08:11
basic_how hard is it to get java 1.5 running in 5.10?08:11
basic_jdk*08:11
PuGzbasic_: not hard... check faq08:11
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foxinesscan i get paltalk running on ubuntu ?08:12
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basic_where's the faq at?08:12
BeleysBonjour08:12
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liaoqinghello08:13
bur[n] erAvahi08:13
bur[n] er;)08:13
PuGzbasic_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/08:13
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PuGzbasic_: i meant wiki08:13
icemanHelp, i cant start gnome, it loads the two application bars appear, and then they just start flashing ,,,08:14
liaoqingwhat r u talking about?08:14
basic_ah okay08:14
basic_hehe, i was about to panic i couldnt find a faq08:14
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PuGzbasic_:08:15
PuGzhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions08:15
n0odl3PuGz: thank you youve been really helpful08:15
n0odl3PuGz: got to go08:15
icemanAnyone know why i cant get gnome to run, it loads but the two toolbars appear "blank" and start flashing ...08:15
PuGzn0odl3: no probs08:15
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naliothiceman: dude. how many times have you been in here?08:16
naliothiceman: repeating doesnt bring answers any faster08:16
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basic_thanks PuGz , man i love you right now08:17
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rellikwherea are the valid shells listed? (so I can add /bin/false)08:18
PuGzhehe08:18
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johnw_should /usr/lib be in $PATH?08:18
FlannelKingAnyone know anything about Enterprise Volume Management Services? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with it?08:18
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PuGzbasic_: how long you been using linux?08:19
basic_3 years08:19
basic_:(08:19
PuGzbasic_: same08:19
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basic_not as a desktop though, and never used k/ubuntu before08:19
cyphasehow do you make a hard drive img file of N size (for qemu)?08:19
basic_i was running gentoo on my desktop and laptop, but compiling everything was a pain for my laptop, plus it was getting really hot08:19
PuGzbasic_: when i say 3 years, i mean 3 solid years. i have been playing for about 5. but used it as my main desktop for 308:20
basic_so i switched08:20
PuGzbasic_: gentoo doesnt make much sense if you ask me.08:20
basic_yea, i mean..i ran a q3 server in 7th grade but i dont count that08:20
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PuGzbasic_: they argue compiling everything makes stuff faster. it doesnt. they argue it helps you learn. it doesnt, because they make a program that does it all for u!08:20
BlueEagl2pugz: <offtopic> Gentoo makes quite much sense if you take the time to read the friendly manual.</offtopic>08:21
johnw_error with apt-get install => Could not lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (Resource temporarily unavailable)08:21
basic_lol08:21
MaestroTechHi08:21
MaestroTechI am having a problem with the resolution of the Ubuntu login screen.08:21
MaestroTechits out of sync.08:21
basic_i dont mind it on my desktop, it's on all the time, but if im in a crunch for time or my battery is about to die, compiling something is out of the picture08:21
MadpilotBlueEagl2: there's an actual ubuntu-offtopic channel if you want to go properly offtopic...08:21
aftertaflol Madpilot :)08:21
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BlueEagl2madpilot: I couldn't be arsed to join a chan just for that little rant. :)08:22
PuGzBlueEagl2: i have read it and used it. still think it was a complete waste of time... but linux is about choice... so i am not about to tell people its crap and not to use it. i am merely stating what i think. i recommend people use it at least once08:22
MaestroTechwhat file do i edit to change the monitor sync stuff.08:22
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basic_i started using linux as my primary desktop about 1.5 years ago when i started doing C programming at school08:22
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PuGzbasic_: nice08:22
basic_ya, and now im doing java :)08:22
PuGzbasic_: sounds like u will be learning lots then!08:22
basic_oh of course08:23
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PuGzbasic_: hehe... a natural progression. the next thing that happens is you get told that java is crap and to go back to c and c++!08:23
basic_if i can stay sober long enough08:23
PuGzhehe08:23
basic_haha, well, im just following the courses at school here, next i think we learn c++08:23
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basic_my favorite is css/xhtml if that counts ;)08:23
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BlueEaglepugz: Well, by installing gentoo you are forced to learn atleast something about which service does what due to the fact that the install is so un-automated.08:24
PuGzbasic_: it kinda does,,, a bit ;)08:24
PuGzBlueEagle: true08:24
Arinuxhey all08:24
PuGzBlueEagle: hence i recommend installing it at least once08:24
BlueEagleHi arinux! How are you today?08:24
MaestroTechhello, GDM is using a higher resolution / or refresh rate than my monitor can handle...how do I fix this?08:24
PuGzBlueEagle: but i dont think you learn as much as they make out u do. just my 2c08:24
Arinuxgood blueeagle08:24
PuGzMaestroTech: change your xorg.conf at /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:25
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PuGzArinux: whats up my man?08:25
cyphaseHow do you make a hard drive img file of N size (for qemu)?08:25
BlueEaglepugz: Well, they can be quite the zealots, but you find those in most distros thou.08:25
basic_you dont *need* to know anything to install it, personally08:25
icemanThats just weird, now back to why i cannot run gnome08:25
PuGzBlueEagle: true dat! they are everywhere08:25
PuGzBlueEagle: whats your favourite distro?08:25
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Arinuxhey i got an application with .run how do i install it08:25
PuGzbasic_: true... depending on your application08:25
BlueEaglepugz: *couch*gentoo*couch*08:26
PuGzbasic_: if you wanna be a sysadmin you do!08:26
PuGzBlueEagle: nice08:26
aftertafArinux:  you run it with sh.....08:26
basic_haha08:26
Arinuxlike?08:26
aftertafArinux:  sh appli.run08:26
basic_well you have to know what you're doing if you wanna be a sysadmin08:26
Arinuxokay08:26
BlueEaglepugz: But after using Ubuntu for a short while I am making the switch.08:26
PuGzArinux: chmod 755 ./appli.run08:26
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icemanarinux  sh ./  the run file nmae.run08:26
PuGzArinux: ./appli.run08:26
MaestroTechhi08:26
PuGzBlueEagle: they are both good.08:26
FarrisGhow stable/usable is 5.10 for amd64? Is it true 64bit?08:26
PuGzArinux: the 1st command makes it executable08:27
PuGzArinux: the 2nd runs it08:27
[Chameleon] FarrisG: quite stable and yes, it's truly 64-bit08:27
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Arinuxhow do i install it?08:27
MaestroTechPuGz: I know about the Xorg.conf... how do i fix the refresh rate please?08:27
icemanFarrisG full 64 bit, but issues to use 32 bit apps there ways to run them, but gets complex08:27
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PuGzArinux: running it should help you out with that08:27
PuGzArinux: what is the program?08:27
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Arinuxamericas army08:28
PuGzMaestroTech: it is in the xorg.conf...08:28
PuGzArinux: is that a game?08:28
Arinuxya08:28
b|d-voradoranyone here? i have a complete noob question.  I installed the quake 4 binary and now all i have to do is copy the pak files from the retail cdroms.  i copied cd1 pak files no problem but when i insert cd2 it says i dont have permission to view the files. how do i fix this?08:28
FarrisGiceman: Regarding 32but binaries, any more issues with Ubuntu than any other 64 bit OS?08:28
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ekimusFarrisG: none of the amd processors are true 64 bit they still got a 32 bit compatibilty mode, if you want true 64bit you need something like a sparc or similiar08:28
PuGzArinux: i think ./run will walk you through the install. be sure to use sudo though08:28
[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: tried sudo?08:28
icemanAnyone know why gnome would start, but the bars just blink, and nothing else loads08:28
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PuGzArinux: sudo chmod 755 ./amer.run; sudo ./amer.run08:28
b|d-voradorhow do i use sudo chameleon08:29
b|d-voradorto view the contents of the cd08:29
PuGzArinux: working?08:29
jake_anyone have a good quake or doom install that is free?08:29
Arinuxi only used sh now its uncompressing08:29
PuGzjake_: getting a craving?08:29
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PuGzArinux: yep... sounds like its working08:29
FarrisGekimus: All I'm really getting at is that I need to know whether it will address ram 64bit wide, and allow single 64bit processes to access greater than 4gb of RAM08:29
icemanFarrisG Seem 64 bit is awsome, I went back to 32 bit rather than fight the bootstapping to get 32 bit to work in 64 bit08:29
jake_used to play quake on my old linux box ~5 years ago08:29
PuGzhehe08:29
MaestroTechPuGz:  anything I change in the xorg.conf breaks my X-Server08:30
ekimusFarrisG: it will, afaik08:30
Arinuxya got the installer thanks a lot guys08:30
[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: sudo cp -R /mnt/<cdrom_drive>/*.pak </destination/folder>08:30
PuGzMaestroTech: try "dpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"08:30
basic_PuGz: whats "esac"08:30
[Chameleon] basic_: end case08:30
[Chameleon] basic_: it's case backwards08:30
basic_hrm08:30
[Chameleon] basic_: just like end if is 'fi' in bash08:30
icemanNo one able to help on my gnome issue ,,, as to why it will not load fully ?08:30
basic_ok08:30
Arinuxi think linux is coming up nicely on gaming too08:31
PuGzArinux: yep... its not doing too bad!08:31
[Chameleon] ekimus: that's bunk. 64-bit is 64-bit. AMD64 just happens to have a backward compatible design.08:31
b|d-voradorvorador@ubuntu:~$ sudo cp -R /mnt/cdrom0/*.pak </home/vorador/quake4/q4base>08:31
b|d-voradorbash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'08:31
Arinuxsoon windows will be outperformed , cos lot of games are providing the opengl api too08:31
b|d-voradoroops08:31
b|d-voradorsec08:32
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[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: don't insert the < > symbols08:32
MaestroTechok08:32
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b|d-voradorvorador@ubuntu:~$ sudo cp -R /mnt/cdrom0/*.pak /home/vorador/quake4/q4base08:32
b|d-voradorPassword:08:32
b|d-voradorcp: cannot stat `/mnt/cdrom0/*.pak': No such file or directory08:32
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e-sinis there something special i should be doing to get apps to have network support in wine?08:32
MaestroTechi reconfigured the dpkg-configure...blah blah.... unfortunately, my monitor still is all fuzzy.08:32
icemanWhat would cause gnome to load, the bars to appear and just start blinking ... and be stranded there ... ?08:32
b|d-voradoris there a way i can simply view the contents of the cdrom and copy whatever files i want in nautilus08:33
PuGzMaestroTech: no idea then sorry08:33
[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: well, it was a guess anyway08:33
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ekimusMaestroTech: define fuzzy08:33
PuGzMaestroTech: have you tried ctrl+alt+backspace08:33
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MaestroTechyes, and i get back to the prompt08:33
PuGzekimus: i think he means refresh rate is too low08:33
Arinuxthis is the first time i am running a game on linux hope it works and as per my expectations08:33
icemane-sin yea, pop over to #winehq, someone there can help you configure the wine network settings ...08:33
[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: sudo mount -o remount,rw,uid=1000 /mnt/cdrom008:33
[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: then try using Nautilus normally.08:33
MaestroTechPuGz: Refresh Rate too high, rather.08:33
e-sinthank you, iceman08:33
icemannp08:34
PuGzMaestroTech: do you know what it is set at?08:34
ekimusMaestroTech: have you tried to manually setting the refresh rate higher/lower and then restarting xorg?08:34
b|d-voradorvorador@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -o remount,rw,uid=1000 /mnt/cdrom008:34
b|d-voradormount: can't find /mnt/cdrom0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab08:34
icemane-sin i have only set them up once...08:34
[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: where's your cdrom drive mounted? usually it's under /media in ubuntu08:34
[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: figure that out and use it instead of /mnt/cdrom008:35
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MaestroTechekimus: I'm trying that now...it goes worse when I try a higher refresh rate.08:35
siimo hi has anyone here noticed nautilus (gnome desktop) icons reappear very slowly everytime you minimize a window covering them?08:35
b|d-voradorumount: only root can unmount /dev/hdc from /media/cdrom008:35
b|d-voradoreject: unmount of `/media/cdrom0' failed08:35
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MaestroTechekimus:  does the Bit-Something effect the refresh rate?08:35
icemanCrud, stuck in KDE... cannot run gnome, Login, and the toolbars start flashing, and then just keep flashing ... anyone know why ?08:35
[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: that's probably why you can't use it normally... you should probably try this:08:35
ekimusMaestroTech: no, give me a sec, i'll look the setting up08:36
Taroncan anyone tell me how to watch tv on an ubuntu-driven PC?08:36
[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: actually, just try my previous suggestion using /media/cdrom0 instead of /mnt/cdrom008:36
[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: sudo mount -o remount,rw,uid=1000 /media/cdrom008:36
MaestroTechekimus: omg, it workx at 640x40008:36
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icemanthere a way to reload gnome to default ?08:37
PuGzgotta go people08:37
PuGzcya later08:37
MaestroTechpeace08:37
ekimusMaestroTech: ok, then you gotta google for the correct "ModeLine" for you r hardware, shouldn't be too hard to find08:37
siimoanyone here noticed nautilus (gnome desktop) icons reappear very slowly everytime you minimize a window covering them?08:37
b|d-voradorchamleon: the command worked apparently but i even after its issued i cant view the cdroms contents08:37
benplauticeman: try failsafe gnome08:37
PuGzbur[n] er: btw, the reason fluxbox wasnt installed was because blackbox was installed... i never checked back at the console to see there was an error.08:37
benplaut(don't talk to me, i'm away)08:38
MaestroTechekimus: lol, if you only knew how old this monitor is.08:38
icemanbenplaut did, and it did same thing08:38
MaestroTechekimus: i have had it work at 800x600 in debian.08:38
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cafuegobenplaut: Now, to access that $10,000 swiss bank account, you do the following...08:38
TaronHi!08:38
Taroncan anyone tell me how to watch tv on an ubuntu-driven PC?08:38
ekimusMaestroTech: just makes it easier to find, google groups is usually the best ressource for old hardware08:38
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[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: do you see the query window from me?08:39
[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: I'll help you there.08:39
MaestroTechekimus: ahhh ok....thank you very much ekimus08:39
cafuegosiimo: Must be just your machine.08:39
MaestroTechekimus: goodnight my friend.08:39
siimocafuego, nv driver08:39
b|d-voradorcan u not see my text in the pmsg window chameleon?08:39
benplautcafuego: send a $20 deposit to a prince in nigeria to secure the transaction?08:39
cafuegosiimo: I use 'nvidia'.08:39
cafuegobenplaut: You're supposed to be afk, shuttup ;-)08:40
siimotry with nv nvidia runs a little faster08:40
icemanTaron download the ubuntu packages for tv ... there are like three or so in synaptic ...08:40
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[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: no, I can't. You probably need to register your nick08:40
iiiearsTaron - Using a Haupage tuner is easiest. ATI -ALL - in - Wonder or even Phillips is tougher08:40
b|d-voradorgod what a hassle08:40
[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: /msg nickserv help register08:40
cafuegosiimo: nvidia has no noticable redraw after minimising a window08:40
[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: yeah08:40
Taronwhere do i get those packs?08:40
icemanHow to gix Gnome ...08:40
FlannelKingAnyone know anything about Enterprise Volume Management Services? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with it?08:40
icemanfix gnome ... ;(08:41
Taronsry, already got a tuner. some pinacle thing, i think08:41
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icemanCRAP, what did i do to gnome ...08:41
siimocafuego, do it a few times very fast08:42
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iiiearsMythTV, - is good IVTV alaso08:42
[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: hmm, still can't see you even in DCC-Chat08:42
[Chameleon] b|d-vorador: you use any IM protocols?08:42
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arafangionMy laptop doesn't work with the ubuntu live cd.08:43
arafangionThe CD is admittably relatively old, being 5.0408:43
webdwarfarafangion: 5.10 has HEAPS better laptop support..08:43
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arafangionHowever, the mannar in which it doens't work is fairly odd - ubuntu is unable to locate the CD drive, is this not unknown?08:43
iiiearsTaron - This site was helpful http://www.byopvr.com/08:44
arafangion(An old version of Knoppis is still fine)08:44
arafangionwebdwarf, So, download latest ubuntu live-cd?08:44
Taronthx a LOT.08:44
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webdwarfarafangion: i think you'd have a much better chance at getting it working, providing you have the bandwidth to get the latest08:44
arafangionwebdwarf, I have 1.5 mbit/sec08:45
Madpilotarafangion: there was a major push on laptops for 5.1008:45
arafangionExcellent.08:45
basic_interesting, my broadcom wireless pcmcia card was making my sound beep, when i put it back in, it starts beeping08:45
webdwarfarafangion: some laptops (including mine) use a sata controller.. which makes the drives sda, etc rather than hda.. which caused alot of problems in the past08:45
arafangionI must say I am usually a Debian Stable fan, but imho, Debian is more suited for servers.08:45
webdwarfarafangion: same here :)08:45
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webdwarfarafangion: i agree.. debian for servers, ubuntu for desktops08:46
Madpilotarafangion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops08:46
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arafangionMadpilot: I'm not worried about laptop compatibility, I know that this one is. It just would be an advantage if I had a desktop oriented distro support it easily.08:46
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webdwarfarafangion: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ is a good resource for running linux (not just ubuntu) on laptops too08:47
Taronwell. thx 2 u all. and cu08:47
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budluvais it safe to remove this file? /var/cache/debconf/config.dat08:50
budluvadpkg is giving a lock error when trying to -reconfigure08:50
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vbgunzI just enabled Ubuntu Backports in Breezy *but* am getting all 404s... is there a new address for the backports?08:51
ptlovbgunz, see the topic08:52
vbgunzI am looking for this package "libqt3c102-mt"08:52
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vbgunzoh, no more Backports?08:53
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vbgunzWhy?08:53
Madpilotvbgunz: not for Breezy, not yet08:53
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vbgunzooh.. Any idea how I can get this package? libqt3c102-mt08:53
icemananyone use xfce here, got a link to some screenshots ?08:53
rellika program is saying "xnview: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3.4' not found (required by xnview)" ... any idea which package I need to fix that? tried libstdc++6 and it didn't work08:53
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naliothvbgunz: download the static skype package08:53
vbgunzI need it for Skype... Gaim doesn't talk over MSN and the such... GAIM 2 will hoepfully take care of that08:54
budluvarellik, how bout just libc6?08:54
naliothiceman: xfce.org, i believe has many screenies08:54
vbgunznalioth: where is it? I downloaded the official deb from skype.com08:54
naliothvbgunz: go back and look some more08:54
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rellikbudluva, already installed :(08:54
vbgunznalioth ok, on the official site?08:54
naliothvbgunz: i have no idea, i would assume so08:55
icemanthere a way to put the application ber on the bottom ?08:55
budluvarellik, did you install xnview via apt/synaptic?08:55
johnw_i have gcc, but when running ./configure for ssh program I get an error that says: Check whether C compiler (gcc -g ) works... no Configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.  HELP!!!!!!!!108:55
vbgunznalioth yes, it is there08:55
johnw_i've run apt-get install gcc08:55
budluvajohnw_, apt-get install build-essential08:55
rellikbudluva, nope, it wasn't on there.. had to get a tarball (which didn't come with any INSTALL file to help)08:56
johnw_budluva: thank you sir08:56
budluvarellik, where'd you download from? check the page to see what dependancies it needs08:56
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da_bon_bonhi all08:56
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rellikbudluva, this is why I never download anything that isn't apt'd08:56
budluvarellik, then apt-get them08:56
da_bon_bonis ubuntu lsb compliant ?08:56
da_bon_bonubotu: lsb08:56
ubotuda_bon_bon: What?08:56
naliothda_bon_bon: yes it is08:57
budluvarellik, i agree :P apt is a cake-walk :P08:57
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rellikbudluva, unfortunately there just doesn't seem to be any install help..  on the site or otherwise08:57
da_bon_bonnalioth: ok :)08:57
rellikbudluva, I emailed the developer, but who knows08:57
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budluvarellik, hrmm08:58
ilba7rhi I need some help in choosing a notebook to run on ubuntu. I am concerned of speed and have two notebooks nearly same price. One 2Ghz centrino 512 DDR2 RAM. The other is 1.7 GHZ 1 GB RAM. Any ideas which is better for speed ram or cpu speed?08:58
piccai have to say i am impressed with ubuntu so much that i am using as the only operating system on my laptop; it works with all my hardware :)08:58
budluvajohnw_, did it work for you?08:58
rellikbudluva, wasn't sure if, from the error msg, a person could tell which package was needed08:58
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rellikbudluva, I was able to guess libstdc++ from a different error msg, and seem to have fixed that08:59
budluvarellik, in synaptic search for glibc, look for a 2.3.4 version and install08:59
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rellikbudluva, synaptic = apt-cache ?08:59
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naliothilba7r: we need more info08:59
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budluvarellik, yeah08:59
craftehis there a way i can specify with lpr to use the A4 paper size rather than letter? it keeps trying to use letter and my printer doesn't like that09:00
johnw_how do I change my hostname?09:00
rempresenti can't get multiverse repositories in breeze09:00
rempresentanyone know why?09:00
johnw_(without breaking my computer) - i did this last time09:00
budluvajohnw_, edit /etc/hosts09:00
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Madpilot!tell rempresent about repos09:00
johnw_budluva: when I do that, i can't run any programs09:00
odie5533How do I burn a .img file?09:00
naliothbudluva: there is more to it than that09:00
ilba7rnalioth all other hardware the same. A Fujistu ntoebook 2 GHZ intel centrino 512 RAM DDR@. The other IBM T43 1GB ram Centrino 1.7 53309:00
neotrophyI'm trying to build the alsa modules, but when I make-kpkg it comes up with various and assorted "No such file or directory" errors.  Anyone got a clue?09:00
naliothjohnw_: in a terminal 'man hostname'09:00
budluvanalioth, yar, i was jumping the gun09:00
Madpilotrempresent: see the msg ubotu sent you...09:00
rempresentwhat09:01
budluvajohnw_, cant run anything?09:01
johnw_nalioth: thank you09:01
barosl 09:01
naliothilba7r: IBM is supposed to be linux friendly, not heard anything on fujitsu09:01
rempresenti checked the repos in synaptic, but it doesn't have the multiverse as an option09:01
rempresenti am wondering why that is09:01
naliothubotu: tell rempresent about repos09:01
naliothrempresent: you have to add it your self, see the msg ubotu sent you09:01
Madpilotrempresent: you need to enable them - the message that ubotu sent you has a URL for you09:01
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rempresentalright, thanks09:02
labRagol, do you need to know how to add multiverse ?09:02
johnw_how do I exit man without doing Ctrl Z?09:02
ilba7rnalioth I checked they both have the same hardware. ATI x300 chipset is my only concern other than that they are equal09:02
labrempresent, do you need to know how to add multiverse ?09:02
odie5533Is it possible to burn a .img file on Ubuntu?09:02
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neotrophyjohnw_: q09:02
rellikjohnw_, Ctrl-Z doesn't exit. it backgrounds09:02
johnw_gracias09:02
johnw_rellik: i know, then I have to kill %109:03
johnw_it's obnoxious09:03
budluvanalioth, will removing /var/cache/debconf/config.dat do any damage? dpkg-reconfigure is complaining about a lock issue09:03
budluvaand yes, i am root09:03
neotrophyjohnw_:  Typing 'q' will quit man09:03
budluvalocked by another process09:03
ulleis there any easy way to give write permissions to a all files in a folder09:03
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lab-R is recursive ulle09:03
piccawhat do you people use to manage the firewall in ubuntu09:03
budluvaulle chown the directory?09:03
budluvaerr09:03
budluvachmod the dir09:04
budluvafook i need sleep :P09:04
rempresentyep, it still isn't working09:04
rellikulle, chmod +w *09:04
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labrempresent, I can send you my sources.list for apt09:04
rempresenti am only getting universe, not multiverse, and i did the tutorial also09:04
Madpilotpicca: firestarter09:04
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piccathanks Madpilot09:04
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rempresentplus, i think that the backports are broken, they don't work either09:05
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Madpilotrempresent: one of the URLs ubotu sent you was a Breezy sources.list, it'll have Multi. and there are no Breezy backports yet...09:05
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Arafangion*sigh*, window xp and it's *pathetic* useage of wifi.09:05
Bateau_hey! do i need anything ells to get "make" to work, other then build-essential ?09:05
rempresentahh, now that makes more sense09:05
icemanDang, why would gnome do that, start and the application toolbars start to load then just start flashing ? HELP09:05
neotrophyI'm trying to build the alsa modules, but when I make-kpkg it comes up with various and assorted "No such file or directory" errors.  Anyone got a clue?  Oh and I do have the kernel source installed.  I'm following the directions in /usr/share/doc/alsa-source/README.Debian Which have worked for me before09:05
ArafangionNow let's see if it will let me download 5.10 :)09:05
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labrempresent, check your pm's09:06
naliothBateau_: have a Makefile?09:06
Bateau_i tried to make psybnc, but i get error :/09:06
rempresentpm's?09:07
labprivate messages09:07
rempresenti am not seeing the sources.list on the wiki09:07
Arafangionrempresent, I generally call them Personal messages.09:07
rempresentall i am getting is information about synaptic09:07
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labsudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list09:07
labdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy multiverse09:08
labdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse09:08
labadd those09:08
Madpilotrempresent: the msg ubotu sent you had two other URLs in it, one was a Breezy sources.list09:08
labthen09:08
ArafangionHmm, how does one burn a CD iso on windows? I usually use mac or linux (Even then, usually linux)09:08
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labsudo apt-get update09:08
piccaMadpilot, with firestarter are the defaults safe enough09:08
rempresentalright, well, i found it09:08
labArafangion, nero09:08
rempresenti am going to try it now09:08
labrempresent, did you not seee the urls I posted09:09
Bateau_hey! do i need anything ells to get "make" to work, other then build-essential ? the error i get is : make: *** [menuconfig]  Error 109:09
naliothpicca: with firestarter the defaults are the same as not using it at all09:09
rempresentwhere is the sources.list located?09:09
johnw_ok, when I do hostname [newhostname]  I can't start any new application for that matter.  I can create new windows of firefox and terminals.  But when I click applications => accessories => terminal it gets the "waiting" ubuntu cursor and eventually falis to load.  Once I change it back to my original hostname, everything is back to normal.  WHAT IS GOING ON?!?!.09:09
naliothpicca: a firewall isnt necessary on a default install09:09
piccaoh best do my research then nalioth09:09
johnw_i didn't word that like I wanted to but you get the idea09:09
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labrempresent,09:10
labI posted exactly what you should do09:10
icemanWhat would toast gnome, so it will not load fully, just the bars apear and start flashing09:10
ulleso how about giving the permission to a directory and its subdirectories09:10
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labulle, it's not a mounted drive is it?09:11
craftehhow do i configure lpr to use the a4 paper size?09:11
rempresentahh haa, works great now09:11
rempresentthanks09:11
icemanDam, another reinstall... for gnome ...09:11
labthanks to who ?09:11
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rempresentlab, ubotu, ...09:12
lab...09:12
labwhatever09:12
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rempresentman, i must of made him mad09:12
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neotrophyI'm trying to build the alsa modules, but when I make-kpkg it comes up with various and assorted "No such file or directory" errors.  Anyone got a clue?  Oh and I do have the kernel source installed.  I'm following the directions in /usr/share/doc/alsa-source/README.Debian Which have worked for me before09:12
lab|awayrempresent, na, don't worry about it lol09:13
icemanCrud, How to fix gnome, anyone ..09:13
rempresentshoot, got an error...09:13
aeon17xiceman: What's wrong with your gnome?09:13
neotrophyiceman: been playign with any config files?  Any chance of filesystem corruption?09:13
rempresentunable to lock the admin dir /var/lib/dpkg... is another process using it?09:13
ekimusneotrophy: alsa modules? they are already in the kernel...09:13
rempresenti got it, synaptic is running09:14
neotrophyekimus: Yeah, but I need a driver for one that isn't built by default09:14
rempresentnvm09:14
icemanno changes to files directly, Gnmoe starts to load, then the two app bars appear and they just start flashing,09:14
odie5533how do I burn a dvd from console?09:14
icemanClosed Gnome, loged in to kde, made a few changes, in KDE, and then loged out, and tried to load gnome and now it will not run09:15
aeon17xodie5533: use cdrecord.09:15
aeon17xiceman: What is the error?09:15
icemaneven undid changes i did in kde09:15
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ullelab no its a folder I a copied from a mounted drive and ot carried over all its permissions Im now trying to delete the folder09:16
icemanaeon17x not a error, just starts to run, and the "two" Application" "menu" bars appear, and start flashing09:16
icemanlike its in a loop..09:17
neotrophyiceman: Fascinating. The only thing that I can suggest off the top of my head, is editing your ~/.xinitrc to start an xterm, typing "startx" and manually running gnome-session from that to see if you can get any info on what's going on.09:17
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odie5533Why won't linux accept my dvd media?09:18
Hackphilbonjour  toutes et tous09:18
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icemanreinstlling gnome from cd, see if it wirks09:20
icemanworks09:21
hejuxhi all! any one know how to display chinese under xterm?09:21
Hackphilje n'arrive pas  changer mon thme09:21
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Hackphilj'ai breezy et je veux installer Clearstream09:21
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hejuxfrench ???09:22
hejuxis this the frech channel ?09:22
burepenon09:22
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burepec'est Anglais09:23
rellik2abc09:23
rellik2I spent so much time finding and installing a text-b09:24
naliothHackphil: anglais ici, s'il vous plait, franais en #ubuntu-fr09:24
neotrophy_icebreaker_: Was it you that was having trouble with gnome?09:25
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Hackphilyes french09:27
rellik2how do I set an env variable in a script?  "export DISPLAY=:0.0" only sets DISPLAY for use in that script09:27
Hackphilisn't this the french channel?09:27
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rellik2huh?09:27
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arafangionDamn windows.09:28
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naliothHackphil: no the french channel is #ubuntu-fr09:29
naliothHackphil: or #kubuntu-fr09:29
gebharrarellik2: you could always just source the script in which you set the var09:29
gebharra. ./test-script.sh09:29
arafangionnalioth: Soon I'll be on that channel, as I vent my frustrations with windows.09:30
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arafangionIs getright a good download manager?09:30
rellik2gebharra "source" ?09:30
gebharrarellik2: for example, if your script is named 'test.sh' type '. ./test.sh'09:30
agtI'm using Firefox 1.5 Beta 2, and flash doesn't work. It plays sounds, but doesn't display anything, only black.09:31
agtAny help?09:31
gebharraprolly a good question for the firefox devs09:31
rellik2gebharra well the script seems to run.. it just doesn't set the variable outside of it's running.. so, in the script I have "exportDISPLAY=:0.0" but after I run the script "echo $DISPLAY" doesn't show :0.009:32
gebharrayep09:32
frogzooagt try a different flash package?09:32
gebharraside effect of running a script in its own process09:32
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agtfrogzoo, cheers, I managed to get it working on Beta 2 on my previous install, I'll just keep trying :)09:33
rellik2gebharra can't source because it's in /usr/local/bin..  wouldn't make sense to source every time I wanted to use it..  is there any workaround?09:33
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MachineScrewhello all09:33
Chousukeagt: You should probably notify macromedia about it ;P09:33
Chousukeor whoever made the flash plugin09:33
Chousukeit sucks, and they should fix it.09:34
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MachineScrewya what Chousuke said09:34
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gebharrarellik2: not quite sure why you can't source it if it's in /usr/local/bin ... do you only have +x perms? let me poke around and get back to you09:35
[Chameleon] MachineScrew: heh...09:35
naliothrellik2: what script is this?09:36
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rellik2gebharra well I guess I could source it..  but it would be nice if I was able to run it as a normal script and not have to make sure and remember to source it everytime09:36
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MachineScrewChameleon: what09:36
icemanHeck, another reinstall...09:36
[Chameleon] MachineScrew: it was funny that you just popped in and then said "ya what Chousuke said".09:37
naliothrellik2: what script or variable?09:37
Bateau_if i want to install TCL, what should i type? it didnt work wiht apt-get install tcl09:38
MachineScrewChameleon: oh ya well I had the macromedia flash player crash all of firefox on certin web sites09:38
icemananyone know where the mozilla bookmarks are stored, so i can make a backup09:38
arafangioniceman, I think it's ~/.mozilla or something09:38
rellik2nalioth script to set DISPLAY to :0.009:38
[Chameleon] MachineScrew: I regularly find my firefox to have crashed.09:38
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[Chameleon] MachineScrew: thank God for SessionSaver09:39
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naliothrellik2: did you preface it with the top line #!/bin/bash and make it executable?09:39
MachineScrewChameleon: ya i know09:39
rellik2nalioth nope09:39
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gebharraiceman: .mozilla/firefox/<some profile name>/bookmarks.html09:39
naliothrellik2: that might be your problem09:39
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Calrenmshade, you around?09:39
kcskylhi i'm trying to set up a launcher in gnome to run amsn, but it's not working.  Can anyone help me with this?09:40
MachineScrewChameleon: SessionSaver ?09:40
rellik2nalioth it's just a one line script (export DISPLAY=:0.0)..  doesn't work, of course..  the idea is to turn off x forwarding to make the movie display on the monitor for the computer09:40
gebharraadd the line to start the movieplayer to the script :)09:40
rellik2nalioth will adding #!/bin/bash fix it?09:40
[Chameleon] MachineScrew: it's an extension that saves all your tabs and even where you are scrolled on each tab and any data you have entered in input fields and can automgically restore it all when you restart firefox09:41
[Chameleon] MachineScrew: totally kicks donkey09:41
rellik2gebharra can't because I don't *always* want to use that monitor :)09:41
naliothrellik2: all scripts need to have #!/bin/bash or #!/usr/bin/perl or whatever, and they need to be "chmod +x" so they execute09:41
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gebharraunless he invoked using "sh"09:41
MachineScrewChameleon: give me a link09:41
gebharraer he/she .. sorry :)09:41
naliothrellik2: make #!/bin/bash your top line, and your display line your second line09:42
rellik2nalioth um it executes without the line (but with the +x)09:42
rellik2gebharra he :)09:42
gebharraproblem is making the DISPLAY variable persist09:42
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rellik2gebharra yeah09:42
[Chameleon] MachineScrew: it's # 18 on the top 2009:43
[Chameleon] https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&category=Popular&numpg=10&id=43609:43
naliothrellik2: you want the display persistent? put the variable in your ~/.bashrc09:43
gebharraunless you add it to your shell inits (profile rc) source is the answer09:43
kcskylI'm sorry but can anyone help me get my amsn started?  I tried following the directions in wiki but that didn't work for me...Thanks in advance!09:43
gebharrayep09:43
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rellik2nalioth can't..  don't *alwasy* want it this way09:43
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MachineScrewChameleon I'll check it09:43
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hussamthe w32 codecs won't let me open QuickTime 7 files, are there any other codecs I can get?09:44
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johnw_how do I increase screen resolution higher than max resolution in Screen Resolution Preferences?09:45
naliothhussam: libquicktime009:45
frogzoogebharra, consider ~/.gnomerc09:45
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naliothubotu: tell hussam about restricted09:45
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gebharrafrogzoo: that would work, unless we are in initlevel < 509:46
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johnw_I NEED TO INCREASE MY SCREEN RESOLUTION!09:47
gebharrai need a larger monitor09:47
gebharra:)09:47
johnw_it won't allow me to go more than 1024 x 768 :(09:47
kcskylI downloaded the amsn and installed it into my /home/username/ , and in the command line for the application launcher put /home/username/amsn but the program does not run...i tried typing amsn into the terminal but that doesn't run the application either...it just says command not found.09:47
naliothubotu: tell johnw_ about fixres09:47
kcskylfunny thing is that i see amsn in the same folder09:48
gebharrakcskyl: did you try chmod +x /home/username/amsn ?09:48
naliothkcskyl: did you not like the amsn in the repos?09:48
gebharraprior to running it?09:48
hochimtry ./amsn09:48
naliothkcskyl: you should NOT download and install non ubuntu pkgs unless you have a good reason. amsn is in the repos09:49
gebharraagreed09:49
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kcskylnalioth, i thought that amsn works with ubuntu?09:49
naliothkcskyl: amsn is in the repos as an ubuntu package09:50
naliothubotu: tell kcskyl about repos09:50
naliothkcskyl: enable universe and multiverse and you'll find lots of interesting things09:50
Bateau_if i want to install TCL, what should i type? it didnt work wiht apt-get install tcl09:50
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[Kelly]   <IRC>  09:51
arafangionBateau_, Take a look at apt-cache search tcl | less09:51
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kcskylnalioth: i'm really new to this so i don't quite understand what you mean, but I'd like to get a chat program that works with msn...my girlfriend has msn so i'd like to be able to chat with her09:51
naliothBateau_: open synaptic and search for tcl09:51
gebharrabateau: or apt-cache search tcl09:51
naliothkcskyl: installing non ubuntu packages is not a good idea, did you just receive a priv msg from ubotu?09:51
gebharrafrom a term09:51
Bateau_but when i search i get so many ressults, i dont know wich one to  take09:51
[Chameleon] MachineScrew: did you try SessionSaver yet?09:52
naliothBateau_: probably better to use synaptic09:52
budluvacan someone explain the differences between wine, cvswine, winex, cedega to me? or are they all roughly the same except for cedega (used for games, not apps)?09:52
gebharratcl8.3 should suffice09:52
kcskylnalioth: yes, i did.  who is ubotu?09:52
naliothkcskyl: ubotu is our info bot09:52
kcskylnalioth: he he09:52
frogzoobudluva, they're all variants of the core wine development09:52
MachineScrewChameleon : I installed it  now I need to crash it09:52
MachineScrewlol09:52
Bateau_nalioth: i dont have that option. i can only use console09:52
frogzoobudluva, there's also Crossover Office from Codeweavers (commercial)09:53
gebharraapt-get install tcl8.309:53
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naliothBateau_: install tcl8.4-dev09:53
budluvayeah heard of that before09:53
Bateau_oki. thanks :D09:53
gebharrathere is also tcl8.009:53
MachineScrewChameleon ya you can make a registry key in windows to make windows crash on command09:53
naliothgebharra: always recommend the latest version, cuz they are usually backwards compatible09:54
frogzooMachineScrew, or just wait :)09:54
gebharra-dev tho? does that include the runtime?09:54
naliothgebharra: it does09:54
gebharracool09:54
ColD_7what software can i use to view animated gif file in ubuntu?09:54
[Chameleon] MachineScrew: if Microsoft ever made anything that DIDN'T suck, it would have to be a VACUUM!!09:54
[Chameleon] frogzoo: heh09:54
ColD_7i have several animated gif file but the animation wont start09:54
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matthewsalve, una domanda09:55
ChousukeI'm sure MS has made something that doesn't suck.09:55
[Chameleon] ColD_7: try a web browser, like FireFox.09:55
wickedpuppy2[Chameleon] their hardware are great09:55
naliothwickedpuppy2: whose hardware?09:55
ColD_7[Chameleon] , thanks09:55
[Chameleon] wickedpuppy: that's because it's not theirs... they are usually made by logitech.09:55
wickedpuppy2M$09:55
ChousukeNew windowses don't suck as much as the older ones, either.09:55
kcskylnalioth: if i use the command apt-get to install a program, isn't that essentially comming from a repository?09:55
naliothmicrosoft doesnt make hardware. they license their name09:55
[Chameleon] and re-branded.09:55
matthewhello09:55
naliothkcskyl: it is coming from a repo, yes09:55
[Chameleon] Chousuke: True, Windows XP and newer are the cream of the crap.09:56
Chousukelet's hope they keep improving09:56
gebharraso do i have to submit a request to MOTU for a terminal-based irc client or is there already one in plan?09:56
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[Chameleon] Chousuke: let's not... instead lets work to improve Linux.09:56
naliothgebharra: what? are irssi and bitchx not terminal irc clients?09:56
wickedpuppy2gebharra , irssi09:56
Chousuke[Chameleon] : Those aren't mutually exclusive09:56
gebharrai didn't see bitchx09:56
Chousukeif MS improves, it's only good09:56
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naliothgebharra: enable universe and multiverse09:56
Chousukebecause then Linux will have to improve further.09:57
piccaanyone know how i can get my sound card (intel 82801DB) to work with ubuntu - it seems to have detected it but just no sound09:57
gebharraahh, i see. don't have universe enabled09:57
Chousukeand Windows even more.09:57
[Chameleon] Chousuke: If you're saying that competition is good, I agree09:57
frogzoopicca, it's in the ubuntu getting started guide09:57
piccaokay thanks frogzoo09:57
naliothgebharra: while your there, enable multiverse, too09:57
Chousukeand OS X will someday not be the best damn OS in the world in my opinion ;P09:58
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matthewHi, can I install a ProFTP server on a desktop version of ubuntu?09:58
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micampehello09:58
ChousukeCurrently I prefer OS X over Ubuntu and Ubuntu over XP.09:58
naliothmatthew: of course09:58
micampewhere can I find the mount options for usb devices? I want to remove the 'noexec' flag09:58
[Chameleon] Chousuke: it will NOT?09:58
frogzoomatthew, have you searched the repositories?09:58
eplmatthew: yes, you can install any package with synaptic09:58
matthewYes, but no proFTP :(09:58
ChousukeWell09:59
[Chameleon] Chousuke: I've used OS X a bit... I do like it, but I prefer Ubuntu.09:59
ChousukeDepending on what you do Ubuntu may be better.09:59
frogzoomatthew, sorry, no cigar - it's there...09:59
[Chameleon] Chousuke: Ubuntu with xcomposite and my new video card has decent graphical bling09:59
Chousukebut on a desktop computer, OS X just rocks.09:59
eplmatthew: the package is called proftpd and is in universe09:59
ChousukeI don't care about graphical bling09:59
Chousukenot at all.09:59
matthewok :D thanx I'll have a look at it09:59
frogzoomatthew, check universe10:00
[Chameleon] Chousuke: it is good for visual cues10:00
gebharrawhat about graphical *sound of a drum tap*?10:00
zygamicampe: I'm not sure really, the mounting happens as a part of hotplug10:00
ChousukeThe day Ubuntu has quicksilver will be a day of celebration10:00
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naliothmatthew: have you enabled universe and multiverse?10:00
zygamicampe: you could mout it manually and pass the required options10:00
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ChousukeKatapult is a step in the right direction10:00
Chousukenow, take more steps :(10:00
kcskylnalioth: what exactly is the difference between a "binary" and "source" repositories?10:00
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gebharrayay10:01
micampezyga, no, I'm sure it can be done automatically10:01
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[Chameleon] kcskyl: source is software that has to be compiled, binary is already compiled.10:01
naliothkcskyl: source repos have the raw source code (to build programs from) and the binary repos have "ready to run" software (already compiled from source)10:01
zygamicampe: I'm sure it can but I'm not familiar with hotplugs internals really10:01
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kcskylnalioth: thanks!!10:02
Chousuke[Chameleon] : I'm curious. What does Ubuntu give you that OS X does not?10:02
micampezyga, I think the options are defined in hal policies10:02
[Chameleon] Chousuke: I'm not in the kubuntu camp, so I'm not familiar with Katapult.10:02
[Chameleon] Chousuke: I'm checking it out tho10:02
wickedpuppy2Chousuke freedom ?10:02
[Chameleon] Chousuke: choice, freedom10:02
[Chameleon] Chousuke: money in my bank instead of theirs10:02
naliothChambers`: katapult = alt-tab10:02
zygamicampe: hmm I think I've got it10:02
ChousukeHm10:02
zygamicampe: I've got no usb memory stick to test it10:03
nalioth[Chameleon] : katapult = alt-tab (boy i hate those brackets)10:03
Chousuke[Chameleon] : anything else?10:03
zygamicampe: but take a look at /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi10:03
micampezyga, are you looking in /etc/hal/fdi?10:03
wickedpuppy2Chousuke anything else more matters than freedom and choice ?10:03
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micamperight :)10:03
ChousukeI consider OS X damn well worth paying for :)10:03
micampezyga, that's where I'm reading too10:03
[Chameleon] Chousuke: yeah, maybe once, but not every single release10:03
zygamicampe: it seems to be the spot10:03
Chousukewickedpuppy2: What freedom do I not have when I run OS X?10:03
[Chameleon] Chousuke: how 'bout just about any software I want for free in one place?10:03
[Chameleon] Chousuke: how 'bout access to ALL of the source code?10:04
Chousuke[Chameleon] : that's nice :)10:04
wickedpuppy2Chousuke can i see the source ?10:04
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[Chameleon] Chousuke: ability to run it as a server, desktop or anything between10:04
Chousukewickedpuppy2: sure, for some parts.10:04
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wickedpuppy2Chousuke which part ?10:04
ChousukeDarwin10:04
[Chameleon] wickedpuppy: Darwin10:04
ChousukeHmm, Safari too, I guess.10:04
Chousukesome kernel drivers.10:04
Chousukemisc stuff10:04
micampeChousuke, only webcore and jscore, not the ui parts of safari10:05
[Chameleon] Chousuke: meh, it's like a few small windows on a corporate sky-scraper.10:05
Chousukethe biggest non-free part is probably the GUI10:05
ChousukeBut I don't really care.10:05
Chousukeas long as it works.10:05
[Chameleon] Chousuke: and all the other apps10:05
Chousukeand it does, so I don't mind it being closed. :)10:05
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[Chameleon] Chousuke: like their new productivity suites.10:05
ChousukeAnd I get free unix tool apt goodness with fink10:05
[Chameleon] Chousuke: that's fine, but I do.10:05
Chousuke[Chameleon] : are you a developer then?10:06
[Chameleon] Chousuke: yes.10:06
Chousukeok :)10:06
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kcskylnalioth: i found amsn in a repository...is there an easy way to install it using this?10:06
kcskylnalioth: using the synaptic manager?10:06
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[Chameleon] Chousuke: my non-dev wife prefers Ubuntu to Windows and MacOS as well.10:06
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[Chameleon] Chousuke: I tried to get her a Mac, but she wouldn't have it.10:06
wickedpuppy2kcskyl if its in repo .. then use synaptic10:07
Chousuke'k10:07
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ChousukeBut the greatest thing about OS X is not OS X :P10:07
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ChousukeIt's Quicksilver.10:07
naliothubotu: tell kcskyl about synaptic10:07
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[Chameleon] Chousuke: URL?10:07
zygamicampe: did it work?10:07
matthewStrange, I'd look for proftp with Synaptic but told me there were problems downloading from universe10:07
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matthewbut now there's no problem at all ...10:08
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ChousukeQuicksilver is, to quote a friend, a "bloody marvellous" app. :P10:08
matthewin fact i've just found it :D10:08
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micampezyga, trying10:08
[Chameleon] Chousuke: so wait, what does Katapult do that the Gnome Command Line applet doesn't?10:08
nalioth[Chameleon] : katapult = alt-tab10:08
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ChousukeWell, I don't know10:08
[Chameleon] nalioth: it says here that you can type commands to launch apps10:08
sorush20firefox RC and thunderbird should be available in synaptic.. why are they not?10:08
ChousukeI heard it tries to be a qs clone.10:09
nalioth[Chameleon] : hmm, i've never seen that10:09
Chousukebut ATM QS has many more features.10:09
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naliothsorush20: they are10:09
Chousukehttp://quicksilver.blacktree.com/10:09
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naliothChousuke: y'all compare osx and ubuntu in #ubuntu-offtopic please10:09
[Chameleon] Chousuke: Katapult was inspired by OS X and is no longer being developed.10:10
[Chameleon] nalioth: I think we're done anyway10:10
kcskylnalioth: thank you sooooo much!  aMSN is running now.10:10
Chousuke[Chameleon] : Oh, darn.10:10
ChousukeI hope they get something.10:10
[Chameleon] Chousuke: I'm glad you like OS X. I think it has many good merits, but it is not open enough for me.10:10
[Chameleon] Chousuke: now that I've taken the "Red Pill" of Linux, I can't go back.10:11
naliothkcskyl: please use synaptic to install anything you need, using non ubuntu things will not be good for your ubuntu10:11
jtan325why are you using amsn?10:11
Chousukea Quicksilver clone is the one thing I would REALLY miss.10:11
jtan325gaim > *10:11
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Chousuke[Chameleon] : I understand.10:11
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kcskylnalioth:  sure will.  is there a way to create a launcher for my aMSN on the panel so i don't have to run it in terminal each time?10:12
ChousukeApparently QS is open source too10:12
[Chameleon] Chousuke: I believe I've seen quicksilver in action. Does it come with OS X or is it 3rd party?10:13
[Chameleon] Chousuke: hmm, interesting10:13
naliothkcskyl: there is not one under "applicatons > internet"?10:13
micampeChousuke, it isn't10:13
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naliothChambers`: 3d party10:13
Chousuke:P10:13
kcskylnalioth: he he.  my bad.  i'm so bad at this =p10:13
naliothkcskyl: take your time, look around. help.ubuntu.com is a good place to go also10:14
naliothkcskyl: let me point out: everything you see can be changed or configured differently10:14
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kcskylnalioth: i really like that about ubuntu.  i installed it because i wanted to start gaining more control over my computer rather than letting windows take control over me10:16
naliothkcskyl: good man. stick with official ubuntu repos, and your system will run like a clock10:16
jtan325www.ubuntuforums.org too10:16
kcskylnalioth:  thanks~10:16
naliothjtan325: the wiki and the forums are linked from help.ubuntu.com10:17
burepeI installed the SCIM input method editor to type in Japanese, but it won't show up in the gnome tool bar. Any suggestions?10:17
naliothkcskyl: anytime, dont be a stranger10:17
jtan325haha nalioth10:17
jtan325i've known nothing besides wiki and forums10:17
jtan325help.u must be a new thing10:17
naliothjtan325: help.ubuntu.com is new10:17
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kcskylnalioth: to take your advice about not being a stranger, i have another question, he he10:18
Chousukemicampe: I thought it was.10:18
ChousukeHmm10:18
kcskylnalioth: i found the instructions for download amsn from this website, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7527610:18
micampeChousuke, the developer says it will release the source 'sometime'10:18
kcskylnalioth: is there a way to undo the changes i made following the directions there?10:18
naliothkcskyl: dont follow the forums too closely10:18
naliothkcskyl: lemme look10:18
Chousukemicampe: aha.10:19
Chousukehttp://developer.imendio.com/wiki/GNOME_Launch_Box <- :o10:19
naliothkcskyl: you did all that? and ran that script?10:19
kcskylnalioth: thanks...i ask this because my aMSN isn't closing right now...aMSN windows turned into an overall greyish color when i tried to close, and is remaining that way10:19
micampeChousuke, deskbar-applet is nicer and more advanced than that10:19
kcskylnalioth: yes, i did10:20
Chousukemicampe: URL?10:20
naliothkcskyl: my friendly advice: dont follow things you find in the forums if your machine isnt screwed10:20
naliothkcskyl: use synaptic and remove amsn with it10:20
kcskylnalioth: he he.  i'll keep that in mind.10:21
kcskylnalioth: okay10:21
micampeChousuke, live.gnome.org/DeskbarApplet10:21
naliothkcskyl: there are "helpful" ideas in the forums that'll screw your box up quickly10:21
jtan325haha10:21
jtan325learn the command line10:21
jtan325and you won't freak out if X gets broken10:22
micampezyga, it's not working...10:22
Chousukemicampe: That looks like spotlight.10:22
micampeChousuke, spotlight would be beagle10:22
micampeChousuke, that is more like QS or launchbar10:23
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ChousukeI hope it'll be able to do more than just open stuff though.10:23
burepeWhat is the command to make gnome flash to update andy changes you have made without ending the session?10:23
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kcskylnalioth: is there a way to force quit my aMSN?10:23
hejuxhow much can a system administrator get if he got RHCE on the hand ?10:23
ChousukeQS is able to move files around, tag them, control iTunes, access FTP, send files by mail, and loads of stuff like tha.10:24
naliothkcskyl: click alt-f2 and type xkill. immediately after, touch the amsn window10:24
ChousukeThat's what I want to see on Ubuntu10:24
micampeChousuke, one step at a time10:24
ChousukeYeah, but I'm impatient :(10:24
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micampeChousuke, if you want to help speed it up the source is available10:25
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Chousukemicampe: I wish I could.10:26
micampeChousuke, oh, you can. everything you need is out there10:26
ChousukeHowever, I haven't learned enough programming yet.10:26
micampeChousuke, what better way to learn than to do what interests you?10:27
jtan325quicksilver is supposed to be awesome10:27
jtan325or so i hear10:27
ChousukeFirst year in uni first programming course, and it's C++. :p10:27
micampedeskbar is in python too, so it's even easier10:27
micampejtan325, it is10:27
Chousuke+,10:27
Chousukeyes.10:27
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ChousukeEveryone who uses it seems to love it.10:27
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hyakuhei!java10:28
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb10:28
[Chameleon] dangit10:28
[Chameleon] NetworkManager is retarded sometimes10:28
[Chameleon] Chousuke: http://www.geekswebhosting.com/gallery2/paul/Linux/Screenshots/Ubuntu-5-10-Breezy-Badger/10:28
[Chameleon] Chousuke: my desktop10:28
kcskylnalioth: should i mark my aMSN for a complete removal?  if i do this, can i install it again immediately after?  also, does it undo the changes i made according to that ubuntu website?  thanks.10:29
Chousuke[Chameleon] : very nice.10:29
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[Chameleon] Chousuke: thx10:30
jtan325[Chameleon] , is that shadowing via xcompmgr?10:30
[Chameleon] jtan325: yes10:30
jtan325and why are you using conky for system monitoring? http://conky.sf.net10:30
naliothkcskyl: you have used one of those "easy scripts" from the forums and gotten the latest version of amsn10:30
jtan325*aren't10:30
[Chameleon] jtan325: can't tell from these shots, but it does a lot of other nice stuff.10:30
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jtan325yea but i heard it's a little unstable at the moment10:31
ChousukeThe only thing it's missing is QS.10:31
jtan325or at least kills resources10:31
jtan325same with gdesklets10:31
piccawow finally got sound working in ubuntu :)10:31
[Chameleon] jtan325: I got plenty of resources to kill10:31
[Chameleon] jtan325: :)10:31
ChousukeSeriously.10:31
naliothconky roX0rz10:31
jtan325haha nalioth10:31
jtan325amen10:31
jtan325i converted nalioth a while back10:31
[Chameleon] jtan325: I'm not even using those gdesklet monitors any more10:31
naliothconky isnt a *desklet10:32
[Chameleon] jtan325: mostly because they would throw my HD into a fit after power management took over10:32
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jtan325[Chameleon] , try it, you won't be disappointed (hopefully)10:32
[Chameleon] nalioth: I was refering to the monitors featured in that screenshot.10:32
[Chameleon] jtan325: I will, thanks.10:32
jtan325it's super-low on resources10:32
naliothjtan325: i ran across someone running torsmo t'other day10:32
jtan325lol10:33
jtan325you preached to them, right?10:33
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MachineScrew[Chameleon] , gkrellm that is the way to go10:33
MachineScrew[Chameleon] , it may be old but it works well10:34
[Chameleon] MachineScrew: I used to use it10:34
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[Chameleon] MachineScrew: I think I'll try conky10:35
MachineScrew[Chameleon] , conky ?10:35
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[Chameleon] see buffer10:35
jtan325MachineScrew, http://conky.sf.net10:35
[Chameleon] MachineScrew: ... or see the Preacher10:36
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littlefaeHello there people. :)10:36
littlefaeI've a rather annoying problem I can find no solution for when attempting to boot a 'fresh' install of ubuntu.  Error Code 1810:36
MachineScrew[Chameleon] , is it in the repos ?10:37
jtan325don't use repos10:37
jtan325i'm working on getting the latest in there10:37
jtan3251.3.1 is relatively old10:37
naliothMachineScrew: it is, but listen to jtan325 he's the one that has brought it onto the world10:37
jtan325just download from conky.sf.net10:37
[Chameleon] MachineScrew: yes, but apparently we shouldn't use them.10:37
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jtan325the one in the repos was compiled without xft support10:37
jtan325and other crap10:37
MachineScrewoh ok10:37
jtan325i have no idea why my sponsor did that10:38
jtan325so yea...10:38
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micampejtan325, does conky play nice with nautilus? better than the other similar thing, I mean?10:38
MachineScrewjtan325, so the deb it works10:38
MachineScrewon ubuntu10:38
jtan325yes10:38
jtan325i built it10:38
jtan325and i use ubuntu10:38
jtan325:-)10:38
MachineScrewcool I am installing it now as we speek10:38
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jtan325i hope you mean the .deb off of sf's files10:38
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MachineScrewyes10:38
jtan325micampe, to be honest, not really10:39
jtan325-o needed basically10:39
hejuxthis channel is always that hot!10:39
geargolemHas anyone had success with Shockwave and Mozilla on Ubuntu?10:39
littlefaeSo, what exactly is an 'Error Code 18'? :)  Comes up when grub does.10:39
naliothgeargolem: shockwave doesnt work on linux10:39
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geargolemnalioth, what about flash 8?10:39
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[Chameleon] geargolem: I think we're up to flash 710:40
MachineScrewjtan325, how can I move it10:40
geargolem[Chameleon] ,  ok, thank you.10:40
[Chameleon] MachineScrew: did you try middle mouse?10:40
[Chameleon] MachineScrew: I mean, middle mouse button10:40
naliothubotu: tell geargolem about flash10:40
jtan325MachineScrew, what?10:40
jtan325oh10:40
MachineScrew[Chameleon] , I kinda figured10:40
jtan325start it with the -o option10:40
jtan325to be in its "own window"10:40
MachineScrewoh ok10:41
littlefaeWhat would cause it? :-|10:41
MachineScrewjtan325, ok10:41
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irvini want to configure a ppp connection this way10:41
irvin[internet] --->[server] ---->[modem] ---->[dial-in computer] 10:41
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irvinand i don't want any ip to be set during negotation10:42
naliothlittlefae: we are not ignoring you, nobody has an answer for you atm10:42
MachineScrewjtan325, no luck10:42
irvindo i have to set noipdefault in /etc/ppp/options?10:42
jtan325MachineScrew, it doesn't let you move it?10:42
littlefaeWell, at least you were finally able to say so. -_-10:42
MachineScrewjtan325, no it just sits on the lower left of the screen10:43
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jtan325hmmm10:43
jtan325what wm are you using?10:43
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MachineScrewjtan325, but if I right click on the taskbar entry it will10:44
jtan325oh yea10:44
jtan325i guess you're using metacity10:44
jtan325so it kinda works?10:44
MachineScrewjtan325, ya10:44
jtan325cool10:44
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MachineScrewjtan325, now it would be cool if it could save it's postion if i where to close it and open it again without the -o option10:45
MachineScrewjtan325, is there a way I can tell it not to make a taskbar entry ?10:45
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jtan325yes, don't do the -o10:46
jtan325and if you want to reposition it10:46
jtan325look at the config options10:46
MachineScrewjtan325, ok10:46
MachineScrewwill do10:46
jtan325the online docs are on the site10:46
jtan325much easier to read than the man page10:47
MachineScrewok i will check it out10:47
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MachineScrewbrb10:47
poupssalut10:47
jtan325MachineScrew, more specifically,10:47
jtan325http://conky.sourceforge.net/config_settings.html10:47
poupsquelqu'un pourrait m'aider pour installer java runtime environnment?10:47
nalioth!fr10:48
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais10:48
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naliothubotu: tell poups about javadeb10:48
rhymesis dapper drake quite usable?10:48
naliothrhymes: atm, dapper looks much like breezy10:48
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ChrisWoooh, lotsa people :-)10:49
rhymesnalioth: but it has more updated package, ain't it?10:49
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naliothrhymes: a couple of weeks worth, yes10:49
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[Chameleon] rhymes: barely...10:49
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[Chameleon] rhymes: have you even tried breezy yet? try it first and if it's not "bleeding edge" enough for you, upgrade to dapper.10:49
rhymes[Chameleon] : i use ubuntu currently from the first release, yes i have breezy10:50
[Chameleon] not bloody enough then?10:50
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naliothrhymes: you wouldn't be interested in LFS?10:50
dampjamI'm trying to compile a module for my kernel but the script says it cannot because the kernel was compiled with gcc3.4 but I am using gcc4, I am using the standard ubuntu kernel... how do I get around this?10:50
rhymeshahaha i'm a geek and a developer, like to be on the edge :)10:50
naliothdampjam: install and use gcc-3.410:51
dampjamok... will that break things in ubuntu?10:51
rhymesnalioth: mmm my interests are around python world10:51
dampjamisn't 4.0 the default10:51
naliothdampjam: not at all10:51
naliothdampjam: you can have as many versions of gcc as you like installed10:51
Marxistdoes he have to export some values?10:52
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naliothdampjam: in the terminal you're using type "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" <enter> then do your compiling10:53
dampjamok, thanks10:53
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f31nhi ... may anyone tell me how i can reconfigure my xf68 ??10:53
naliothf31n: are you using warty warthog?10:54
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f31nno10:54
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naliothf31n: hoary and breezy use X.org for the xserver10:54
naliothubotu: tell f31n about fixres10:54
MachineScrewjtan325, what dose Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" already registered at priority 010:54
MachineScrewits at the bottom10:54
jtan325lol10:54
jtan325look at your .conkyrc10:55
jtan325it's reading stuff from  your xsession log10:55
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jtan325and printing it out10:55
MachineScrewoh ok10:55
MachineScrewfunny10:55
f31nexactly thats it10:55
f31nthank you10:55
marsis anyone using arCHMage? I can't install it10:55
MachineScrewis it possible to define coordinates for the window10:56
naliothMachineScrew: sure it is10:56
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MachineScrewan get rid of the flickering10:56
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MachineScrewother than bottom_left or top_left10:56
jtan325try enabling double buffer for flickering10:57
MachineScrewI need it in the middle10:57
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MachineScrewjtan325, ok10:57
jtan325experiment with your .comnkyrc10:57
jtan325*.conkyrc10:57
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phoenix_atlantisI feel a little bit silly in asking this - but; If I would have a Notebook with windows installed (C and D drive) and would take the Ubuntu CD to install it, what would happend to the D drive... Otherway asked: Does the Installer only erase the C drive and leaves the D as it is?10:57
MachineScrewit is enabled10:57
MachineScrewbut it dose say it dosn't work for every one10:58
jtan325yea10:58
MachineScrewI must be one of those10:58
MachineScrewlol10:58
[Chameleon] phoenix_atlantis: installer can do whatever you want. it can even resize C and/or D to make room.10:58
jtan325metacity tends to be problematic10:58
MachineScrewits awsome though10:58
naliothphoenix_atlantis: the ubuntu installer will do what you tell it to10:58
jtan325(metacity = default gnome window manager)10:58
jtan325anyway, i am going to bed MachineScrew, talk on #conky if you need more help10:58
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jtan325though there's only a few people around there10:58
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jtan325have fun10:58
MachineScrewI love it no skinning just a console type windo10:58
phoenix_atlantisgreat, thanks!10:58
MachineScrewok10:58
MachineScrewthanks10:58
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[Chameleon] jtan325: thx10:59
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jtan325np10:59
KjetilKI'm thinking about moving my desktop from Sarge to (K)Ubuntu11:00
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[Chameleon] KjetilK: good idea11:00
KjetilKbut I use it as devel platform too11:00
KjetilK:-)11:00
antixwhere is a good guide for internet sharing? routing..11:00
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[Chameleon] KjetilK: so, ubuntu does that, too11:00
KjetilKso, I need things like apache1, libapache-mod-perl11:00
[Chameleon] :)11:00
naceurfr?11:00
KjetilK[Chameleon] : yup, cool!11:01
naliothantix: firestarter is a program that can set up your ubuntu box for connection sharing11:01
nalioth!fr11:01
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais11:01
[Chameleon] KjetilK: it's in the repos.11:01
antixnalioth, ok I'll check it out thanks!11:01
KjetilKbut can I get a CD-image somewhere of the packages not in the core CD?11:01
naliothKjetilK: we have about 16,000 programs available11:01
KjetilK[Chameleon] : yeah, but my bandwidth could have been better...11:02
aftertafKjetilK:  there is the dvd image.... will have a couple more i imagine11:02
poupsfr?11:02
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[Chameleon] !fr11:02
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais11:02
KjetilKaftertaf: yup, but, I haven't got a DVD player...11:02
KjetilKperhaps a jigdo file...?11:02
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aftertafKjetilK:  worth looking into... a jigdo for other cd images maybe yeah.11:03
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KjetilKaftertaf: yup, that would help a lot... :-)11:04
KjetilKanybody seen such a thing....?11:04
naliothkcskyl: you ready to keep cleaning your amsn mess?11:04
kcskylnalioth: i'd love to11:04
naliothKjetilK: one of the teams is working on a dvd of other pkgs11:05
naliothkcskyl: is your amsn still hanging?11:05
kcskylactually it's working okay now.  i tried reinstalling it.11:05
robotgeekkcskyl: why can't u use gaim instead of amsn?11:05
naliothkcskyl: well good then11:05
KjetilKnalioth: right! But that means it is unlikely it exists yet?11:05
naliothrobotgeek: linux is freedome11:05
naliothKjetilK: it does not11:06
KjetilKnalioth: OK11:06
kcskylnalioth: but i did download a program called plan 1.9 online that i'd like to uninstall...can you help me with that?11:06
naliothkcskyl: waht is that?11:06
kcskylrobotgeek: oh, because my girlfriend uses msn :)11:06
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robotgeekkcskyl: gaim supports msn protocol11:06
kcskylnalioth: it's a day-to-day planner11:06
naliothkcskyl: how did you install it? got a link to the site?11:07
kcskylrobotgeek: so i can add my gf (msn user) to my buddy list?11:07
robotgeekkcskyl: you shud be able to do that11:08
naliothkcskyl: gaim is a multiprotocol chat client, (one client, many protocols)11:08
kcskylnalioth: i downloaded it from the website to my desktop, and the steps for installation were as follows: 1) cd src (2) run ./configure (3) run make11:08
KjetilKhmmm, idea: I have my dpkg --get-selections from my Sarge box, perhaps I could compare that to the packages on the CD?11:08
naliothkcskyl: is that all you did?11:08
kcskylnalioth: oh wow...didn' know that...11:08
KjetilK(automatically...)11:09
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kcskylnalioth: oh, and make install11:09
naliothkcskyl: do you still have the directory you did all those things in?11:09
kcskylnalioth: yup11:09
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naliothkcskyl: open a terminal in that directory, and try "sudo make uninstall"11:09
robotgeekKjetilK: export ur --get-selections to a file, then import it on your new box --set-selections.11:10
naliothubotu: tell kcskyl about checkinstall11:10
robotgeekKjetilK: i've never tried it, but let me know if it works :)11:10
naliothkcskyl: and forget about "make install" use checkinstall instead11:10
robotgeekkcskyl: sudo checkinstall11:10
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naliothrobotgeek: that is the bomb for goin from one box to another11:10
KjetilKrobotgeek: yup, but my issue now is if I can use that information to download those packages to a system with higher bandwidth, and burn it, and bring it home... :-)11:11
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robotgeekyup...i am keeping a list11:11
robotgeekKjetilK: i think you are looking for apt-zip and apt-move11:11
robotgeekKjetilK: they supposedly work, i have never used it first hand11:11
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kcskylnalioth: i tried sudo make uninstall and it says "no rule to make target 'uninstall'. stop"11:12
robotgeekkcskyl: have you deleted the source for plan 9 stuff?11:12
naliothkcskyl: then you'll have to be happy with it in there11:12
naliothrobotgeek: there is no uninstall script11:12
kcskylnalioth, robotgeek, is checkinstall the same as install?11:12
naliothkcskyl: read the URL ubotu sent you11:13
KjetilKrobotgeek: good point!11:13
robotgeeknalioth: no need, see..we can make the .deb, and then uninstall it. it will remove the files it puts there11:13
KjetilKI'll look into apt-zip11:13
KjetilKthanks guys!11:13
kcskylnevermind. nalioth sent me the info11:13
kcskylhe he11:13
robotgeekKjetilK: np, and make a howto too :)11:13
KjetilKyup! :-)11:13
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naliothkcskyl: if you are gonna follow strange instructions, use "checkinstall" instead of "make install"11:14
bloxaregarding apt-zip - is it a Windows program? I have a fast internet connection at work, and would like to download large files there to install at home.  Is this possible?11:14
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kcskylrobotgeek, nalioth: i do not recall deleting the source...11:14
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robotgeekkcskyl: go to the directory, and do a sudo checkinstall then11:14
naliothbloxa: not sure how you would do it with a windows box11:15
robotgeekbloxa: same here, not sure how you would do it with a windows box11:15
bloxaMaybe I can just download the deb's from somewhere individually, and then install them when I get home using dpkg?11:15
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kcskylrobotgeek: it says checkinstall: command not found11:16
naliothbloxa: does your windows box have 2 optical drives (one being a cd burner)?11:16
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naliothkcskyl: in a terminal, type "sudo apt-get install checkinstall"11:16
bloxaat home or work?11:16
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naliothbloxa: where your fast connection is11:16
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Boobekhi11:16
robotgeekBoobek: hi11:17
bloxaNo, not at work - I was planning to use a USB hard drive to transfer the files to my home computer11:17
kekeHi I am new here11:17
kcskylnalioth: okay11:17
[Chameleon] keke: hi, you want a cookie?11:17
naliothbloxa: ah in that case, a breezy livecd may be of use11:17
robotgeek:)11:17
robotgeeknalioth: interesting point. can u install programs on the live cd?11:18
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bloxanalioth: I have breezy installed.  Iwas thinking about all the universe stuff which I want to add :)11:18
johnnybezakhey guys i need to install java for some poker website. i'm on breezy on ppc11:19
kcskylrobotgeek: upon running sudo checkinstall, i get a message that reads: The package doc directory ./doc-pak does not exist. Should i create a default set of package docs? [y] : "11:19
kekeI have installed apache2 on my server but I cant find the DocumentRoot, any help!11:19
robotgeekjohnnybezak: ur are outta luck, until unless u use konqueror11:19
robotgeekkcskyl: y11:19
naliothbloxa: yes you can install things onto the live session11:19
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naliothjohnnybezak: wiki.ubuntu.com/javappc11:19
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naliothkcskyl: yes11:20
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kcskylrobotgeek: it reads: installation failed.  aborting package creation. cleaning up...OK   Bye :11:20
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BeGuhello evryone11:20
robotgeeknalioth: did you try the newer version of java from the ibm site? much faster for me11:20
naliothrobotgeek: what java?11:20
robotgeekkcskyl: can u pastebin?11:20
naliothrobotgeek: it wont say anything11:21
BeGuI'm using program called Gdesklets.. unfortunately it crashed... How can I force it to quit? some command?11:21
bloxanalioth: So you mean I create my own live cd with all the added goodies at work and then install from that to my home computer? Can you do this?11:21
kcskylrobotgeek: sure.  i'll do it under "plan:"11:21
naliothrobotgeek: the 'make install' failed11:21
kcskyl"plan"11:21
naliothbloxa: no. use the livecd to mount your usb drive and also to use "apt-zip"11:21
robotgeeknalioth: i tht he had the install complete?11:22
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naliothrobotgeek: one time he did, checkinstall choked on the 2nd 'make install'11:22
kcskylrobotgeek: it's pasted under "plan"11:22
robotgeeknalioth: https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/iwm/web/preLogin.do?source=lxdk <- java 511:22
naliothkcskyl: got a URL?11:22
kcskylyup11:22
kcskylhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/405811:22
bloxaI'll need to check out art-zip to see if it can be useful11:23
kcskylnalioth, robotgeek: that message was received after i typed "sudo checkinstall"11:24
robotgeekkcskyl: okay...do a make clean in the directory, make and sudo checkinstall11:24
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nnonixI'd like to add a "send via Bluetooth" option to my right click file menu in nautilus. Is there an easy way to do this?11:25
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kcskylrobotgeek: do i need to apt-get clean?11:25
nalioth_zZzkcskyl: no no no11:25
nalioth_zZzkcskyl: in your build directory, type "make clean"11:25
kcskylnalioth_zZz, robotgeek: i typed in make clean and it gave me "No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.11:25
kcskyl"11:25
BeGuhow can I force some Gdesklets to quit?11:26
BeGu-some11:26
BeGu:)11:26
nalioth_zZzrobotgeek: that is some ***** source code he got hold of11:26
kcskylnalioth_zZz: lol11:26
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bloxaI am actually running breezy on half a USB drive (the other half is FAT32) - could I just boot off this at work and use apt-get as per normal? Only issue I see is the corporate firewall and doing it without people (ie. boss) getting suspicious. :))11:26
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nalioth_zZzbloxa: that's perfect, if you have enough room on the stick11:27
robotgeekkcskyl: are you sure you are doing it in the directory?11:27
bloxaIt's a drive - 30Gig11:27
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nalioth_zZzbloxa: plenty of space, dont make the boss mad, though11:28
kcskylnalioth_zZz, robotgeek: actually i think i wasn't fully in the directory.  i tried it in a subfolder src, and it gave me the following:"11:28
kcskylnalioth_zZz, robotgeek: actually i'll pastebin11:28
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kcskylnalioth_zZz, robotgeek: it's pasted under "plan2"11:29
robotgeekkcskyl: you don't do it in src. (usually)11:29
nalioth_zZzkcskyl: we do better here with URLs11:29
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nalioth_zZzrobotgeek: it's all yours, good night11:30
kcskylnalioth_zZz, robotgeek: notice i first ran sudo checkinstall then make clean11:30
[Chameleon] kcskyl: grep -E '.*\:$' Makefile.in11:30
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kcskylnalioth_zZz, robotgeek: oh okay.  the URL is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/405911:30
[Chameleon] kcskyl: that will tell you all targets11:30
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bloxaI'll try it on Monday - hoping that apt-get traffic looks like normal traffic using standard ports (or whatever) to get through the firewall.11:31
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kcskylChameleon: what do you mean?  sorry i'm really new to this...not sure what you mean by targets11:31
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raf256what the fuck O_o ?11:31
[Chameleon] kcskyl: "clean" is a make target11:31
raf256it seems my 64 bit ubuntu can run 32 bit binaries \o/ is it normal on all 64 bit distros?11:31
[Chameleon] kcskyl: well, a typical make target11:31
[Chameleon] kcskyl: so you could typically type "make clean" and it will execute the "clean" process.11:32
robotgeekkcskyl: did it compile cleanly earlier?11:32
[Chameleon] kcskyl: that command will show you all targets, thus giving you some idea of what all you can do with that particular code using make.11:32
kcskylrobotgeek: do you mean when i first installed it?11:32
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Seveasbloxa, apt-get is simply http...11:33
kcskylChameleon: oh, i see11:33
bloxaSeveas - cool - so it should not have any issues11:33
robotgeekkcskyl: i tht you compiled it successfully earlier?11:33
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nuckhi what do i download for the complete c c++ reference for ubuntu? i downloaded c-cpp-reference but it seems some of the links for keywords arent there11:33
kcskylrobotgeek: you mean the checkinstall?  yes, i believe so"11:34
robotgeekkcskyl: no, i mean the plan 1.9 source. i thought you compiled it earlier successfully?11:34
[Chameleon] nalioth_zZz, robotgeek: seen "bulldozer"? It's a make extension for Nautilus. Rather interesting.11:34
robotgeeknuck: do u mean the man page references?11:35
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kcskylrobotgeek: oh yes.  I did...sorry for misunderstanding11:35
[Chameleon] http://taschenorakel.de/mathias/bulldozer/11:35
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robotgeek[Chameleon] : interesting, lemme simpy this :)11:35
nnonixHow do I modify the right-click menus in nautilus?11:35
nuckrobotgeek i mean any form preferable html based reference11:36
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robotgeekkcskyl: if it doesn't take much time, just do the ./configure, make procuedure once again11:36
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bloxaI'm out of here - Thanks guys for the help :)11:37
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irvini need help on configuring a dial-in server11:38
[Chameleon] bah! I just realized Azureus has been off for the last several hours... darn.11:38
kcskylrobotgeek: which option should i choose?  same as previous configureation?  factory defaults?  silicon graphics freeware?  debian linux standard?11:38
robotgeekkcskyl: what options are these?11:39
irvini want to share connection to a home computer from a remote computer with broadband connection11:39
irvinthe setup is like this: server dials home pc so that home pc can access the net11:39
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kcskylrobotgeek: these options came up when i typed in ./config11:39
CarinArrhey, i could do with some help.. I'm trying to install breezy badger on my laptop (wiped my previous ubuntu, and windows installations and started all over.). Just installed a clean copy of windows, and now I'm trying to install Ubuntu. I have three partitions the first one being the windows partition, the second an ext3 linux partition and the third a swap partition, trying to install the base system i get the error: debootstrap exited with an error (return v11:39
CarinArranyone know what the problem might be?11:39
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kcskylrobotgeek: sorry, i meant ./configure11:39
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robotgeekkcskyl: how did you compile it before? use the same options!11:40
[Chameleon] CarinArr: try disabling ACPI in the BIOS.11:40
[Chameleon] CarinArr: worked for my wife's laptop.11:40
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kcskylrobotgeek: so sorry...got what  you mean.11:40
kcskylrobotgeek: okay, it's done11:41
robotgeekkcskyl: make also done?11:41
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CarinArrACPI? okay.. will give it a go11:42
[Chameleon] good luck11:43
kcskylrobotgeek: when i typed in "make" it gave me "nothing to be done for 'start'."...i don't recall seeing this before11:43
robotgeekkcskyl: err, i think this package plan is in the repos too. too late!11:44
kcskylrobotgeek: how do i ask ubotu to tell me about "make"?11:44
[Chameleon] !make11:44
ubotu[Chameleon] : Did you get hit by a windmill?11:44
kcskylrobotgeek: geez...i should've known...11:44
robotgeekkcskyl: i dunno what's happening! i don't think ubotu knows about make!11:44
[Chameleon] seems to be the case11:45
kcskylrobotgeek: oh well11:45
robotgeekkcskyl: don't bother, it's not gonna mess with your system. just forget about it :)11:45
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kcskylrobotgeek, Chameleon: oh okay.  Thank you both for helping me with this!11:45
[Chameleon] kcskyl: "nothing to be done for $target" means that it has already done that target.11:45
[Chameleon] it's being efficient11:45
kcskylChameleon: i see11:45
[Chameleon] not rebuilding what is already built11:46
kcskylChameleon, that bulldozer program looks pretty cool.  doesn't it do the same thing as synaptic manager?11:46
CarinArri don't have any ACPI settings in my bios11:47
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ubuntududeanyone got Epson Stylus C64 to work?11:47
ubuntududeit failes on my computer, should I file a bug report (where)?11:47
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kcskylChameleon: or is it something i can use for programs outside the repository?11:47
robotgeekanyways guys, time to get back to work. cya all later11:48
ubuntududeis there some "better" (as in:  for more "hard" bugs) support for ubuntu? some mailing list or something?11:48
[Chameleon] kcskyl: no, it's nothing like synaptic.11:48
[Chameleon] kcskyl: it's like a GUI for make.11:48
kcskylgeez...ubuntu is sooo addictive...i'm gonna fail out of my school this year lol11:48
robotgeekubuntudude: bugzilla not good enuf?11:48
kcskyllater robotgeek !11:48
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ubuntududewher is bugzilla for ubuntu?11:50
ubuntudude1) epson c64 doesnt work11:50
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ubuntudude2) it do not install on my old laptop11:50
digger3Hi, anybody else has trouble getting the simpleserver to work?11:50
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digger3uhm, I am talking about novell ifolder btw11:51
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pavel_heloo11:51
pavel_is anybody there who use fluxbox and fbdesk?11:52
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kcskylChameleon, thanks for all your help.  i feel like i learned alot today ^ ^11:53
kcskylChameleon, I'll talk to you later~11:53
nuckhi what do you guys use for c++ programming reference? thanks11:53
[Chameleon] nuck: google11:54
CarinArrit seems the problem with debootstrap was caused by using swedish keyboard settings11:54
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pavel_need help with fbdesk and transparency, do not work :-(11:54
[Chameleon] CarinArr: interestin... be sure to file a bug11:54
Revellionpavel_: o_o11:54
nucki have googled found c-cpp-reference but its kind of incomplete i.e. some functions it doesnt have for example gettimeofday11:54
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[Chameleon] nuck: so google for "gettimeofday reference"11:55
icemananyone have the url to installing the codec for video11:55
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shinkiushello11:56
nuckno i mean i'd rather downnload a whole c c++ reference than always googling cuz im not always online11:57
nuckChameleon11:57
shinkiuscould anyone tell me where from Ubuntu reads the manufacturer/model string, that is later used in /usr/share/acpi-support?11:57
CarinArractually hold that.. it crashed further on instead11:57
shinkiusping?11:58
[Chameleon] nuck: oh, that sucks that you're not always online.11:59
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shinkiusok, i found it11:59
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bluefrog-10using echo -n ; read var  , user input sets up this variable, how can i clear it, pls?12:03
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vbgunzIs there any way to redraw windows faster than currently available by default in Gnome?12:04
[Chameleon] vbgunz: hardware12:04
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[Chameleon] vbgunz: what's your desired end result though?12:05
[Chameleon] vbgunz: less flicker?12:05
vbgunzrepaint is not as optimal as I think it should be12:05
[Chameleon] vbgunz: look in GTK+ source and fix it12:05
[Chameleon] vbgunz: you could try xcompmgr12:06
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jisao1_Grub won't install on my box for Ubuntu.  Any suggestions (other than lilo?)12:06
vbgunzno tearing... I have a 256MB Nvidia Card and both nv, nvidia drivers provide near identical results... 1GBRAM 2.6p4... Do you think repait should be slow even when logging into Gnome-Failsafe?12:06
[Chameleon] vbgunz: probably not12:07
[Chameleon] vbgunz: http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0150048402/linux/Multiple_Nvidia_Multiple_Head.html12:07
[Chameleon] vbgunz: look toward the bottom for optimization stuff12:07
[Chameleon] vbgunz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DropShadows12:07
vbgunzChameleon, thank you, repaint isn't exactly bad... just feel it isn't optimal12:07
vbgunzloading them up12:08
[Chameleon] vbgunz: look there for xcompmgr stuff which might make it "appear" smoother, and with more blingage as a bonus.12:08
vbgunzxcompmgr: command not found... is it found in Synaptic?12:08
[Chameleon] yes12:08
ompauljisao1_, "grub won't install" given it is part of the install process, can you tell us more, is the install failing? or was it there and then in came windows and it is gone?12:08
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[Chameleon] vbgunz: read that 2nd page first12:08
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[Chameleon] vbgunz: before you try running it12:08
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vbgunz[Chameleon] : ok, let me begin12:08
[Chameleon] vbgunz: it requires some configuration.12:08
[Chameleon] vbgunz: which card do you have specifically?12:09
vbgunz[Chameleon] : read dropshadows first?12:09
vbgunzGeForce 560012:09
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[Chameleon] vbgunz: other one first.12:09
jisao1_I have 5 oses on my system: windows, Debian stable, Kanotix rc11, Kanotix rc13, and Ubuntu should be 5th on hda1212:09
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[Chameleon] vbgunz: ah, I have a 6600 GT...12:09
vbgunzmultihead12:09
[Chameleon] vbgunz: yeah. I have a dual-dvi card.12:09
ompauljisao1_, does Deb Stable own the grub?12:10
jisao1_It starts installing, then stops sayin it had encountered a fatal error. It happened on a jfs filesystem, and I tried a second time on a reiserfs.12:10
vbgunzI plan on ditching everything and upgrading very soon...12:10
vbgunznice12:10
ruiwenbluefrog: $unset var12:10
vbgunz:)12:10
jisao1_Yes.  All the others are chainloaded12:10
[Chameleon] vbgunz: http://geekswebhosting.com/gallery2/paul/Linux/Screenshots/Ubuntu-5-10-Breezy-Badger/12:10
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antixcan I use php4-mcrypt with php5 installed?12:10
ompauljisao1_, okay so it is more like a failing install, what version of Ubuntu is it?12:10
jisao1_When I selected >Install grub on fdo<, it accepted the command, never asked for the floppy and existed with >apparent< success.12:11
jisao1_The one I got at ubz, 5.1012:11
joao_!fat3212:11
ubotumethinks fat32 is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab12:11
jisao1_Breezy Badger, I think it is called.12:11
[Chameleon] g'night all12:12
antixI tried mailing the maintainer of php4-mcrypt but no answer :(12:12
vbgunz[Chameleon] : thank yo man, nice setup too btw!12:12
[Chameleon] vbgunz: thx. have fun!12:13
vbgunz;)12:13
jisao1_Usually, I have no problem install distributions this way.  I am trying Ubuntu for a review, and I would like to report something else than 2 fails in a row.12:13
ompauljisao1_, two kanotix rc editions sure your name is not kano? ;-) but back to your grub thing - I have not come across it before, I would add a section to menu.lst for the ubuntu partition and see if it agrees with ubuntu, it may be to do with riser something in the back of my mind says try it with ext3 but I am loath to say you must12:13
jisao1_Did the same with jfs.  I am not kano (I don't think he would be ruffled by a quirk from grub), but I know him.12:14
ompauljisao1_, it was a joke12:14
jisao1_Sorry, my sense of humor did not get his 2 morning coffees.12:15
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jisao1_the kind of entry where you have to know which version of vmlinuz you have and where?12:16
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ompauljisao1_, I'll pop it all in a paste bin hang on a se12:17
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SiMpLytach12:18
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ompauljisao1_, have a look at this url http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/406012:18
jisao1_ok.12:18
ompauljisao1_, thats my setup - as you can see I have evolved it over time :)12:19
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jisao1_Yes, I was wondering if you were sabdfl...12:20
GNULinuxerjisao1_: who?12:20
ompauljisao1_, not a hope12:20
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ompauljisao1_, to be found at #ubz12:21
poningrujisao1_: sabdfl is at ubz12:21
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gwarkis there much difference between xfree86 + zorg for ati ?12:22
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ompauljisao1_, is as you know in canada - tad early for them?12:23
jisao1_That was a joke, ompaul.  ubz is in my town, buy the way.12:23
SiMpLyhm leute, hab da ne frage, ist der dns eintrag notwendig?12:23
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jisao1_I am an early bird.  Do computing before going to work.12:23
ompauljisao1_, I noted you said you got the disk there :)12:23
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CarinArrif it doesn't work this time i'll.. scream12:24
ompauljisao1_, well I have not had a coffee or any food its almost noon I better blow this pop stand12:24
jisao1_Visited twice. On Ubuntu Love day, and for a helping help topic.  All the others seem too advanced for a user.12:24
jisao1_ok.  Tx. I copied the menu entry and will try it later today;12:24
ompauljisao1_, suggest you do ext3 if its still a problem12:25
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poningruor reiserfs12:25
poningruaka reiser412:25
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ompaulponingru, jisao1_ already said that one is an issue12:25
poningruoh sorry12:25
jisao1_I will, because I really would like to finish this thing nicely:   http://linuxbasics.org/tutorials/during/distros/ubuntu/ubuntu_revisited12:25
ompaulponingru, doubt if it is an issue, send me a box of oranges12:26
poningruhehe12:26
jisao1_The bet is on.12:26
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ompauljisao1_, there are several users here who tend to be right up there with advice sorry I have no answer for you, have a good day12:28
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irvinon iptables... how do i allow all traffic on the ppp0 interface?12:29
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burepeIs there a command to list my internal ip address?12:30
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ompaulburepe, ifconfig12:31
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burepethanks12:31
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ompaulirvin,  --in-interface -i [!]  input name[+]   network interface name ([+]  for wildcard)12:32
CarinArreureka12:33
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Madeyehey, what shall I apt to get kde installed in ubuntu12:33
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ompaulMadeye, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:34
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shinuis there something similar to azureus just not java? or maybe a bit lighter?12:35
ompaulMadeye, assumption you have a working ubuntu, if not just get the kubuntu install CD12:35
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ubuntududewtf?12:36
ubuntududeis ther UML (user mode linux) for ubuntu?12:36
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ubuntududeI see only user-mode-linux-doc!12:36
nightswim!repositories12:36
ubotuHow to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example soruces.list12:36
ompaulubuntudude, no idea, afik some work has taken place with xen12:36
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ubuntududexen?12:38
poningru!xen12:38
ubuntududeanyway, so how can I get the UML working?12:38
fanopnaic!xen12:39
ubuntududeit is in debian testing distro12:39
poningruubotu: xen12:39
poningruubotu: xen12:39
antixpretty frustrating that php5-mcrypt is missing in breezy...12:39
poningrusomethings wrong12:39
ompaulhttp://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-xen/12:39
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poningruwhy is ubotu only doing per user msg info?12:40
ompaulubuntudude, its a virtualisation thingy12:40
poningru!tell ubuntudude about xen12:40
ompaulponingru, its very long12:40
poningru?12:40
poningruoh ic12:40
ompaul!+xen12:40
ubotumethinks xen is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/, or a bit tough to use with Ubuntu AFAIK.12:40
poningru!hello12:40
ubotuHi, poningru!12:40
poningrugotcha12:40
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highvoltagejo ubotu12:40
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ubuntududeso xen is bettern then uml?12:42
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ompaulubuntudude, it is supposed to take less resouces12:42
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shinucant i add a debian repo in my sources.list?12:44
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[dEvIL-bOY] hello12:45
djtanseyis there a way to setup your server to have certain email addresses (on the server you host) automatically forward to external email addresses? Anyway to have them leave a copy _and_ forward?12:45
deFryskshinu, better not12:45
poningrudjtansey: you can just use an email client for that dude12:46
shinudeFrysk: i need rtorrent which isnt in the ubuntu repos:/ and thats too many dependencies to install :P12:46
highvoltagewhat is an ubuntero?12:46
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poningrudjtansey: not sure how to do that using an email server though12:46
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[dEvIL-bOY] peeps i added this to/boot/grub/menu.lst  :splashimage (sda,6)/boot/grub/images/ubuntu.xpm.gz12:47
[dEvIL-bOY] but now i have no grub menu12:47
djtanseyponingru: please elaborate. I am going on a two-week trip and won't have access to my computer, but I haven't setup any webmail interface on server, so I wanted it to forward all my email to my gmail account12:47
arxonikhi, is it possible to move the data on the ext3 partition to the end of the partition and then shrink the partition at the beginning?12:47
deFryskshinu, I would set up a source repo of debian and apt-get source -build <thepackage> in that case12:48
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deFrysk--build12:48
shinudeFrysk: ok thanks :)12:48
poningrudjtansey: with thunderbird12:48
poningruyou can do it12:48
poningruits a simple filter option12:48
deFryskshinu, sucess not guaranteed tho :s12:48
shinudeFrysk: np :P12:48
luke_how do I get support for MP3s in XMMS?12:48
[dEvIL-bOY] luke_, install some codecs12:49
deFrysk!tell luke_  about mp312:49
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[dEvIL-bOY] hey what about splash screen for grub?12:49
[dEvIL-bOY] can anyone tell me?12:49
arxonikbut the firefox filters work only when the firefox is launched12:49
djtanseyponingru: don't see how that would help me if i'm not there to check the emails on my computer... but i'll look into it.12:50
arxonikwhat with the splash screen?12:50
arxonikthunderbird, sorry12:50
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poningrudjtansey: just have thunderbird running it will automatically do it12:50
deFryskluke_, I think xmms supports mp3 by default in breezy12:50
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ArafangionUbuntu's some some *impressive* things on the desktop :)12:51
ArafangionBOoted the live-cd, everything worked *better than windows*12:51
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ArafangionWith zero configuration, save for my wifi key.12:51
arxonikno one knowledgable of the partitioning techiniques?12:52
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Arafangionarxonik: In general there is no golden rule.12:52
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BooZeehello all.  I have 2 HD on my comp. one for windows, one for linux.12:52
BooZeeCan I mount the windows one for ReadOnly ?12:53
luke_thanks, installed the codecs and it works12:53
arxonikArafangion: i don't need info on how to partition, but i would like to know, whether there are any advanced techniques you can use, like moving data within the partition, resizing the partition, and so on12:53
luke_yes BooZee, use the 'ro' flag12:53
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BooZeeluke_:  in what command?12:53
luke_sudo nano /etc/fstab12:53
luke_thers a guide on the wiki12:53
BooZeeluke_:  what does nano do?12:53
BooZeeo.k.12:54
luke_its a text editor12:54
arxonikBooZee: look at www.ubuntuguide.org12:54
BooZee!fstab12:54
ubotumethinks fstab is /etc/fstab is a real pain for new users. The fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.12:54
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BooZeeand if i'll do it with no flag, the windows HD will not be changed at all, right?12:55
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deFrysk!tell arxonik about ubuntuguide12:55
deFrysk!tell BooZee about ubuntuguide12:55
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arxonikyou are all great help here, keep up the good work ;)12:58
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dooglusthe scottish 'daily record', a crappy sports tabloid, has published a review of ubuntu, strangely enough: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16329893&method=full&siteid=66633&headline=steve-lawson-s-games-and-technology--tech-heads---do-the-ubuntu--name_page.html12:58
dooglusbut - can anyone find the link to page 2?  I can't...12:58
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yohanim using grub and ive tried a hundred times to config it but i cant get it to work, i have a sda drive which boots with grub and i have a seperate drive (/dev/hda1) with windows, how do i add the windows file in the menu.lst?01:00
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concept10anyone running firefox 1.5 RC1 yet?01:00
dooglusconcept10: I am01:00
dooglusconcept10: haven't had a crash yet, which is more than I can say for the beta01:01
matthewHello, I'm trying to run Ethereal as a root but it doesn't start, it tells me " Could not set capabilities: Operation not permitted"01:01
matthewwhy?01:01
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concept10dooglus, I hate that the old firefox starts when I launch a app, did you change the sensible browser pref?01:01
concept10!tell yohan about grub01:01
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dooglusconcept10: what do you mean?  I don't see the old one any more01:02
nickrudyohan, add http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4061 (or equiv) to the end of your /boot/grub/menu.lst01:02
concept10dooglus, thunderbird still launches the old version, I should just remove the deb01:02
dooglusconcept10: I put "export BROWSER=~/programs/firefox/firefox" in my ~/.bash_profile, and ". ~/.bash_profile" in my ~/.gnomerc01:03
nickrudyohan, that will boot any variety of windows on hda101:03
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dooglusconcept10: the BROWSER variable is used to tell apps which browser to use01:03
dooglusconcept10: arrange for it to be set automatically, and you'll be fine01:03
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concept10dooglus, okay, thanks for the tip01:04
dooglushttp://s89213869.onlinehome.us/crash.htm doesn't crash the firefox RC.  that was the worst 1.07 / 1.50b1 bug I found01:04
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concept10dooglus, its stable for me, i just needed to change that.01:06
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concept10dooglus, what about flock?01:07
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MaTaKshow can i view webcam on gaim-vv01:08
lizhenHello!01:08
Bateau_hmm, howcome i cant configuer psybnc on my ubuntu?01:08
MaTaKsi can't view any image01:08
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dooglusconcept10: I didn't try flock.  when I first saw it, it was closed source, so I left it alone.  i heard that it's since become open source but I've not looked01:09
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dooglusany idea what I've done wrong if I see "Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,7)" when I try to boot?01:10
concept10dooglus, it was always OSS, it was closed because of beta01:10
dooglusconcept10: I'm not sure about that.01:10
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shakaam01:11
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Bateau_hmm, how come i cant make psybnc on my ubuntu? but eggdrop went just fine :/01:11
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MaTaKshow can i view webcam on gaim-vv?01:12
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yohannickrud but that doesnt seem to work, do i need to edit devicies.map?01:12
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nickrudyohan, that's the first time someone's come back and said that; is the bootable flag set on hda1?01:13
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CookedGryphonhow do i get amarok to play wmas?01:17
CookedGryphoni have3 w32 codecs and all the gstreamer packlages01:17
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nickrudyohan, if it is (I'm not even sure if it's needed, I'm more of a lilo user) and you have (hd0) /dev/hda in device.map, and you still can't boot, well01:18
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Boobekbye01:20
dooglusany idea what I've done wrong if I see "Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,7)" when I try to boot?01:20
dooglus(I'm using LILO, if that matters)01:21
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burepedoes anyone know how, or can recommend a faq, to set a static ip address?01:22
nickrudheh, Kernel panics are extreemely over my head. Stabbing, no proper module for the root file system? (that always got me)01:22
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liableburepe: /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/01:23
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burepei don't clearly understand01:23
dooglusburepe: it's easy - just use the system->admin->networking tool - change 'dhcp' to 'static'01:23
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burepecool01:24
liableburepe: go to that directory in your filebrowser..01:24
burepegot it01:24
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burepeis this something that would affect my isp? meaning would this make them mad or do I need their permission?01:25
liableburepe: wait, is this for a computer on a lan behind a router?01:26
burepeyeah01:26
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liableburepe: then your isp has nothing to do with it.01:26
burepecool thanks01:26
k31thcan you upgrade ubuntu to the latest version from the command line ?01:27
dooglusburepe: you might make your router mad, or maybe your wife (if you happen to chose the same IP that she has been assigned by DHCP) but the ISP can't tell what IP you've got on your local net01:27
k31thlike you can with CentOS ?01:27
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dooglusk31th: sure.  what version do you have now?01:27
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aimazk31th, you can do it by changing the apt/sources.list and the apt-get dist-upgrade ing01:28
aimazwhether that is the the reccomended method i don't know01:28
dooglusaimaz: I guess you'd have to apt-get update first?01:28
aimazyeah01:28
dooglusaimaz: and I've heard that you shouldn't "skip" any versions...  warty -> breezy fails if you don't visit hoary on the way.01:29
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aimazoh right, I'm too new to ubuntu to have used warty01:29
k31thdooglus: im just thinking in advance01:29
dooglusaimaz: me too.  but apparently all the x.org stuff got moved around between hoary and breezy, which for some reason messes you up if you go straight from warty to breezy.01:30
k31thas if im going to stop using CentOS in replace  for ubuntu i need to be able to stay current from ssh01:30
dooglusk31th: don't worry - you can.01:30
k31thkool01:30
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dooglusk31th: if all you want to do is keep up with security fixes, that's very easy.  you can do it from a crontab if you like01:30
SeveasCentOS lol....01:30
dooglusCentOS isn't funny Seveas - it's about the only free way of running a lot of commercial apps01:31
k31thSeveas: i recognise your username01:31
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MaTaKshow to view webcam on gaim-vv?01:31
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eeaaxxis apt-get supports resume download?01:32
Seveask31th, that's possible, I recognize yours too :)01:32
propagandhiwhat commercial apps does centos provide?01:32
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Seveaseeaaxx, it should01:32
burepeCan someone tell me what I should put for the gateway address when making a static ip? is that the router address? so it would me in my case 192.168.0.1?01:32
icemanAnyone know a link or howto make gnome windows transparent01:32
k31thSeveas: your the GNU Fish And Chips guy ?01:32
dooglusburepe: probably.  type "route" in a shell01:32
eeaaxxSeveas: ?01:32
propagandhiburepe: the routers01:32
burepeok01:33
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dooglusburepe: the router's IP is right after the word 'default'01:33
burepeyeah! thanks01:33
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Seveask31th, :))01:33
dooglus(is there a better way of getting the router's IP?  like from ipconfig or something?)01:33
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k31thSeveas: im going to the chip shop ina  min do you want any thing ?01:34
liableburepe: go to /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/ its explained, also man ifconfig, man interfaces01:34
dooglusi*f*config I mean!  (giving away my windows roots there!)01:34
k31thill DCC them over to you01:34
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icemanhow do you set transparent windows in gnome ?01:37
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rene_bonjour je suis nouveau ici01:38
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burepeI am following a windows faq to forward ports and on the part where you set the static ip there is also the dns severs. I am using the gnome gui right now and under dns servers it just has the routers 192.168.0.1? Do i need to enter the dns servers? Where would I find them?01:39
rene_et j'ai un problme pour connecter tora sur la meme machine que oracle server01:39
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rene_quelqu'un peut me renseigner ?01:40
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lillisger01:41
lillisneger01:41
lillisddsasadsad01:42
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dooglus!fr01:43
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais01:43
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propagandhiburepe: your router should be getting the dns servers from your ISP, they should be listed in the router setting01:43
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burepethanks01:43
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CaNsAwhy wont my firmware load for my usb modem?01:43
dooglusburepe: you don't need to change the dns settings.  if the router is working as a DNS server when you use DHCP,it'll keep working when you switch to static01:44
propagandhiburepe: you can set them on your machine also, it might make some difference, but ultimately your router gets them anyway01:44
burepeok thanks01:44
CaNsAusb 1-2: stage 1 firmware not found!01:44
dooglusburepe: the good thing about leaving your Linux setup using the router for DNS is that if your ISP changes their DNS servers, you don't need to fix your Linux setup.01:45
Rawplayerre01:45
CaNsAoops i mean - usb 1-2: no stage 1 firmware found!01:45
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burepenow I have to put the network down and up to reset it right? eth0 down?01:45
burepethanks dooglus01:45
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burepethats my dads name i like your spelling of it01:46
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dooglusburepe: just clicking 'ok' on that network dialog should bounce the network for you01:46
dooglus:)01:46
burepeok01:46
BooZeehow can I see hebrew subtitles in totem?01:47
dooglusburepe: otherwise: "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"01:47
dooglusBooZee: wow, that's hopeful :)  I can't even get Czech subtitles to work, and that's only a few letters different than good ole' american english01:47
MasterYurihi all01:47
MasterYuri:)01:47
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CaNsAburepe, u seem to know what ur talking about01:48
CaNsAwhy wont my firmware load for my usb modem?01:48
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CaNsAusb 1-2: no stage 1 firmware found!01:48
MasterYurido you know if I can configure the position of the screen?01:49
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MasterYurinot using the monitor, but using linux01:49
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BooZeewhat program do you use to see movies?01:49
burepe oooh, I don't know. I have a japanese router and it is missing a function that the same model in english has so I was thinking about updating my firmware in english but i know i would mess it up01:50
WildZeckMasterYuri, xvidtune01:50
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burepeactually all these people here know a lot more than me01:50
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pl_icehi01:50
dooglusBooZee: for DVDs, xine(totem).  for anything else: mplayer-nogui01:51
BooZeedooglus:  why nogui?01:51
ompaul!tell BooZee about restricted01:51
ompaulBooZee, that will tell you about codecs01:51
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pl_iceu guys know a program, that when i open www and there are many files to d/l so that it grabes them all and d/l them ...?01:52
BooZeeompaul:  I already read that, and did almost what it said to do..01:52
dooglusBooZee: I always found the gui to be horribly clunky.  it's a video player - all I need to be able to do is pause, skip back, skip forward, change volumne and quit.  that's all available which watching the movie without putting anything on screen.01:52
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dooglusBooZee: my girlfriend gets annoyed if a gui interrupts the film y'see :)01:52
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BooZeebut there's must be a FullScreen feature...01:53
dooglusBooZee: sure.  'f' is fullscreen01:53
BooZeeso what's the prob?01:53
dooglusI just don't need a gui I guess.01:53
BooZeeo.k.01:53
CaNsAi thought f is for " ffs, im gonna smash this fikun machine if it dont fukin werk by tonight"01:54
dooglussame as how I don't use nautilus maybe.  I don't see the point of scanning an array of icons for the file I want when I can just type the first letter of its name and hit <tab>...01:54
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theD3viLhow to mount .bin file??01:56
burepecan I have 1 comp setup with a static ip and the other comps on my network using dhcp?01:56
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EnsignRedshirtHello, world.01:56
EnsignRedshirtHas anyone had the "Quit" menu option stop working in Firefox?01:56
CaNsAyeah burepe, i dont see why not01:57
burepecool01:57
burepethanks01:57
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CaNsAim glad to more help to u.... than u are to me :P01:57
SeveastheD3viL, convert it to iso with bchunk01:57
Seveasand then mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint01:58
EnsignRedshirtIt is very strange.  I can use "Close" to exit Firefox, but Quit does nothing.  I'm not sure when it stopped working.01:58
theD3viLSeveas, the whole game (q3) ?01:58
SeveastheD3viL, you can also burn it...01:58
theD3viLi know....01:59
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Durin_IIHi! My mousewheel in ubuntu scrolls perfectly if it is pressed and scrolled, without pressing it, it is a bit jerky? anybody has the same problem? (5.10 + logitech mouse)02:01
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BooZeehmm... that's wierd - when i hit the f button, i get a full screnn (blank) and the movire stays in it's original size...02:02
BooZeedooglus:  hmm... that's wierd - when i hit the f button, i get a full screnn (blank) and the movire stays in it's original size...02:02
NigelS9902:03
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EnsignRedshirtBooZee: Sorry to interrupt... are you talking about mplayer?02:04
raphink Now playing : Barry Sisters - Bei Mir Bist Du Shain02:04
BooZeeEnsignRedshirt:  yep02:04
EnsignRedshirtBooZee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7642302:04
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neotrophyI'm trying to rebuild the alsa modules to support a card that isn't compiled into the main distro.  I've got the kernel source and alsa module source installed, and I'm following the directions in /usr/share/doc/alsa-source/README.debian, but I keep getting "No such file or directory" on a bunch of headers.  Can anyone help?02:05
CaNsAusb 1-2: no stage 1 firmware found!02:05
CaNsAwhy wont my firmware load for my usb modem?02:05
CaNsAit there02:05
bigfoot1if you use opensync, say "I use opensync, bigfoot1"02:05
CaNsAits*02:05
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neotrophyDo you have the firmware?02:05
neotrophyIt's in the right place?02:05
CaNsAyeah02:06
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CaNsAand ive updated the firmware_agent02:06
aftertafbigfoot1:  rofl :)02:06
CaNsAfirmware.agent*02:06
aftertafi like your way of seeking attention, man ;)02:06
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aftertafneotrophy:  have you installed build-essential02:07
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neotrophyI thought so... I'll check though02:07
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neotrophyaftertaf: Looks like that might be it! :)02:08
bigfoot1aftertaf: i was cutting down on smart aleck responses02:08
aftertafneotrophy:  ;)02:08
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BooZeehow can I preserve the ratio in Mplayer when going on full screen?02:08
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neotrophyWindows trashed my root partition, I had to reinstall, so I must have forgotten build-essentials02:08
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frogzooneotrophy, Windows trashed root? or just the MBR ?02:09
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neotrophyfrogzoo: root.  I formatted the wrong partition02:09
neotrophysorry.. it did02:10
neotrophynot me... I told it to format G:(/dev/hdb1), it formatted C: (/dev/hda1)02:10
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dooglusburepe: make sure that your static IP address isn't in the range that the router assigns with DHCP02:10
frogzoothat was helpful ;)02:11
neotrophyI was most unimpressed02:11
frogzooI dare say02:11
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rick_I have a question if anyone has time?02:11
frogzoorick_, just leap in - don't ask to ask, just ask02:11
[A] ndy80hi02:11
frogzooWhat's Gnome/Ubuntu's stock CD burning app?02:12
rick_i was to stop undateb from running or make it run once a week02:12
neotrophyMost of us have time... Not necessarilly answers :)02:12
[A] ndy80My webcam is recognized by Linux: V4L2 device /dev/video0 deregistered, but GnomeMeeting cannot find the device... how can I fix this problem?02:12
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frogzoorick_, undateb ????02:12
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rick_updateb sorry02:12
dooglusupdatedb02:12
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rick_it is a cronjob that runs daily02:13
dooglusrick_: "sudo mv /etc/cron.daily/slocate /etc/cron.weekly"02:13
rick_seems to be locking gnome on me02:13
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frogzoodooglus, don't you have do edit the cron file?02:14
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BooZeehow can I preserve the width*height ratio in Mplayer when going on full screen?02:14
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dooglusfrogzoo: no, it's not run by cron, but by anacron02:14
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frogzoodooglus, ah, thx02:15
dooglusfrogzoo: otherwise if you never had the PC switched on at 7:30 am it would never run02:15
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Mestulessomebody know because when i begin burn image of dvd gnomebaker says: error mounted?02:15
neotrophyIs anacron the reason that my personal crontab jjob doesn't work?02:15
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dooglusfrogzoo: look at /etc/anacrontab to see how it gets run daily / weekly02:16
frogzooneotrophy, nope - cron will run it02:16
neotrophyhmmm02:16
dooglusneotrophy: probably not.  cron runs too...  it's cron that runs anacron each morning for instance...02:16
frogzoodooglus, yar, snooping now02:16
cansa_see ive done this but it still gives me a  usb 1-2: no stage 1 firmware found! error at me02:16
libin02:17
BooZeehelp on mplayer: how can I preserve the width*height ratio when going on full screen?02:17
rick_has anyone ever mentioned this was causing problems in gnome?02:17
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bigfoot1guys, i'm looking to download and install a package from http://www.opensync.org/wiki/download. Packages are available as  source tarballs, debian packages, or as "subversion." which kind should i get? The newest debian is called libopensync_0.14-1_i386.deb and the newest source tarball is libopensync-0.17.tar.gz. Should i go for the .17.tar.gz source, or go with the easier to install but older debian?02:17
mtupperhey all, can someone help me determine the root directory for apache2?  i see in the services that it is up, and i thought it was at: /var/www/02:17
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neotrophymtupper: It was last time I looked on my system02:17
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rick_thanks for the help dooglus02:18
neotrophymtupper: What makes you think that it's not /var/www?02:19
cozHello All02:19
Bateau_mtupper: if you installed apache with apt-get, it should be there?02:19
fdr_hi... I'm trying to install ubuntu 5.10 on a friend's laptop (fujitsu-siemens amilo A1630) but the installer hangs right before starting the partitioning utility... what could it be? I've already tried booting the kernel with acpi=off noapic nolapic02:19
fdr_thank you02:19
frogzoomtupper, it is I believe, /var/www02:19
dooglusbigfoot1: I'd go for the recent .tar.gz and compile it myself.02:19
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neotrophyIt definitely is /var/www/ on my system02:20
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dooglusmtupper: httpd.conf should tell you I think (don't have apache installed here though)02:21
MoorenkopfI set up Ubuntu 5.10 "server" and wanted wo install xorg and fluxbox. so I did "sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg fluxbox", but there's no "startx". what am I to do?02:21
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dooglusMoorenkopf: startx is in package 'xinit'02:22
dooglusMoorenkopf: hopefully xinit depends on the whole X shebang02:22
mtupperok, so why when I installed apache, it put a directory called apache2-default in the /var/www/ directory?  after installing and turning up the apache2 service, I expected to go to http://localhost/ and see the classic apache 'it worked!' page...02:22
Moorenkopfdo I need any more packages like xinit to run fluxbox fine? :D02:22
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dooglusMoorenkopf: I don't know.  one way to find out is to install xinit and its dependancies and see what happens...02:23
neotrophymtupper: If you go into apache-default, you'll get something along the lines of "It Worked"02:23
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infowolfelol @ there are no breezy backports...02:23
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dooglusMoorenkopf: you'll need /usr/bin/X for sure - that's in "xserver-common"02:23
knoophi02:24
otto_oh hi02:24
Moorenkopfdooglus: got it02:24
frogzoois there an easier way to burn a CD than cdrecord?02:24
mtupperi tried http://localhost/apache2-default/ and got a connection refused error02:24
theD3viLSeveas, and how to burn .bin file ?02:24
infowolfemtupper, /etc/init.d/apache* start?02:24
infowolfetheD3viL, does it come with a .cue file?02:25
knoopI have a boot partition in /dev/sda1, it has BOOT flag and files copied (cp -ar) from a working boot partition (hda1), but system do not boot from it at all. how to fix it - how to recreate the MBR of /dev/sda1?02:25
Rockett18frogzoo> you could try k3b if you don't mind installing the kde libraries02:25
infowolfefrogzoo, xcdroast?02:25
theD3viLinfowolfe, no02:25
frogzooinfowolfe, wins the cigard :) thx02:25
[dEvIL-bOY] i'm trying to install mplayer but it says to make sure i have the repositories enabled02:25
[dEvIL-bOY] ??02:25
theD3viLmarilla02:25
theD3viLt02:25
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[dEvIL-bOY] does anyone knows which repository is mplayer located?02:26
theD3viL[dEvIL-bOY] , marillat on google02:26
infowolfe[dEvIL-bOY] , universe or multiverse, if you don't know what sources.list is, maybe you should go back to windows ;-)02:26
dooglus[dEvIL-bOY] : it's in multiverse02:26
[dEvIL-bOY] f%$^ windows02:27
[dEvIL-bOY] linux rulles02:27
frogzooinfowolfe, them's fighten words...02:27
dooglus[dEvIL-bOY] : you can tell by typing "apt-cache policy mplayer-686" - ah - but that probably only works if you have multiverse already enabled02:27
_jasonubotu:  tell [dEvIL-bOY]  about mplayer02:27
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rockviechhey guys02:28
rockviechhas anybody already installed gdesklet in here?02:28
infowolfefrogzoo, i stopped supporting lusers a long time ago... maybe more people should buy apples... but wait, nevermind, that's not a good alternative anymore02:28
rockviechneed some help with it02:28
bigfoot1dooglus: is it easy to compile stuff?02:28
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mtupperinfowolfe, tried that, negative.02:28
dooglusbigfoot1: depends on the stuff...02:28
infowolfebigfoot1, http://www.gentoo.org (it's where you compile the whole distro ;-) )02:28
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infowolfemtupper, netstat -alnp | grep 8002:29
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dooglusbigfoot1: it's easy to compile ubuntu source packages - with a single command (dpkg-buildpackage)02:29
Madeyeguys, I'm using ubuntu, and I'm apting kubuntu-desktop for testing, now it's asking me to choose which display manager to go with, and the question is 'can I run KDE with GDM' ?02:29
infowolfeshould only show 1 thing listening on 0.0.0.0/8002:29
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dooglusbigfoot1: but stuff that's not packaged for ubuntu can be as tricky as it likes - it really depends on the program02:29
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bigfoot1dooglus, how about opensync02:29
bigfoot1?02:29
infowolfeMadeye, yup... beauty of modular software design, huh? your display manager and window manager are *gasps* different things02:29
dooglusbigfoot1: never heard of it :)02:29
rockviechif someone has installed some plugins for the desktop, like a launcher or starterbar, plz contact me, need some help with it02:30
neotrophyMadeye: Yes you can run KDE from GDM..,02:30
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dooglusI'm off to try this kernel I just built.  might be back soon :)02:30
benkong2why doe this give a permission denied error? "sudo echo 'pwcheck_method: saslauthd' >> /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf"02:30
neotrophyMadeye: I personally prefer KDM, but that's just me02:30
benkong2why does this give a permission denied error? "sudo echo 'pwcheck_method: saslauthd' >> /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf"02:30
Madeyeneotrophy, infowolfe , hmm then which is better to run gnome/kde with KDM or GDM ? what are pros/cons02:30
infowolfebenkong2, type sudo su - (then your password)02:30
benkong2infowolfe; thanks02:31
infowolfeMadeye, the beauty is, it doesn't matter, i prefer xdm myself.02:31
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fdrhi... I'm trying to install ubuntu 5.10 on a friend's laptop (fujitsu-siemens amilo A1630) but the installer hangs right before starting the partitioning utility... what could it be? I've already tried booting the kernel with acpi=off noapic nolapic   Thank you!02:31
theD3viLHow to burn bin with cdrdao?02:31
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infowolfebenkong2, then you can echo into the file, although, i prefer nano, myself (quick, simple, easy to use)02:31
infowolfetheD3viL, try google.com02:31
neotrophyMadeye: It's all a matter of preference.  I like the console login option that's with kdm.  Plus, it also blends nicely in when KDE starts02:31
mtupperinfowolfe, says all CONNECTED...  i assume thats good02:31
infowolfemtupper, pastebin?02:32
mtuppersorry?02:32
mtupperi put that in the CLI?02:32
Madeyeneotrophy, okay i'll use kdm, if I decided to switch back to gdm, how to switch back?02:32
infowolfemtupper, see the topic, and paste the output of that command into a pastebin so i can see wtf you're talking about.02:32
[dEvIL-bOY] can't do it02:32
[dEvIL-bOY] damn..02:32
infowolfeMadeye, dpkg-reconfigure <pkgspec>02:32
neotrophyMadeye: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm02:33
[dEvIL-bOY] trying to stream something from a website but it doesnt work02:33
infowolfe[dEvIL-bOY] , have you edited sources.list yet?02:33
Madeyeneotrophy, reconfig kdm to get gdm back ?02:33
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[dEvIL-bOY] yes02:33
neotrophyMadeye: kdm or gdm, don't much matter which02:33
infowolfeMadeye, doesn't matter, reconfigure will let you choose which display/login manager you prefer02:33
Madeyeinfowolfe, neotrophy cheers! thanks02:33
[dEvIL-bOY] i done that ages ago, i followed the unofficial ubuntu guide02:33
infowolfe[dEvIL-bOY] , and you've apt-get update'd?02:33
infowolfeMadeye, np02:34
[dEvIL-bOY] E: Couldn't find package for02:34
[dEvIL-bOY] this is what it says02:34
[dEvIL-bOY] got to go02:34
frogzooinfowolfe, seems Gnome/Ubuntu burns CDs with Nautilus by default, just right click and go02:34
[dEvIL-bOY] be back later02:34
infowolfefrogzoo, that's nice02:34
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infowolfeso does anybody have any idea wtf the backports people are doing nowadays?02:36
mtupperinfowolfe, k there ya go...02:36
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neotrophyI guess that they're waitng for someone to start getting new stuff into dapper drake02:36
rockviechif someone has installed some plugins for the desktop, like a launcher or starterbar, plz contact me, need some help with it02:36
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infowolfebrb.02:38
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afd_is there any gui for me to choose which soundcard is used as primary in alsa?02:41
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infowolfeah02:44
bolrodafd_: alsaconfig might work02:44
dan2005hello02:44
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dan2005I made a custom-minimal install of debian, how do I create a installer of it so I can install it to different unit02:44
infowolfexchat-gnome is MUCH better than xchat{-common,-systray,}02:44
afd_bolrod, thanks, I'll need to get it02:44
infowolfedan2005: man dd02:45
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dan2005infowolfe: is there a script to do this02:46
puslingwould there be anything wrong in taking newest dapper-kernel and install it on breezy, or has there been significant changes ?02:46
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Kamping_Kaiserpusling: it's probably ok, but expect minor breakage02:47
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infowolfedan2005: yah, dd if=/dev/olddisk of=/dev/newdisk02:47
laszlokdoes anyone know how I can connect to ubuntu machines through a crossover cable to copy files?02:48
infowolfeseems pretty easy to me if they're identical disks02:48
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dan2005infowolfe: thanks, what else need to be done02:48
dan2005after copying02:48
infowolfelaszlok: you might want to install something like ssh-server on both/either and use rsync -e ssh username@machine2:/new/path/to/copied/files /path/to/copy02:49
puslingwhat are the newest kernel in dapper ?02:49
infowolfedan2005: if it's the exact same disk (make/model) nothing, i'd assume02:49
Kamping_Kaiserpusling: afaik same as Breezy02:49
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afd_bolrod, alsaconfig is not on my system, I think set-default-soundcard in alsa-utils does it02:49
dan2005but its diff disk 4gig ang 6gig02:49
linuksoHi fellow ubuntuers! Is it just me or is X much slower in breezy that hoary?02:49
puslingKamping_Kaiser: hmm... then it don't matter ;) some of my hardware are only partially supported with breezy stock kernel ...02:49
Kamping_Kaiser:)02:50
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laszlokinfowolfe: is it possible to do an smb or nfs mount through a crossover?02:50
Kamping_Kaiserpity pusling.02:50
frogzoodan2005 - then it's tar you'll need, install & reinstall grub02:50
aftertafhi Kamping_Kaiser :)02:50
Kamping_Kaiserhi aftertaf, how are yoU?02:50
puslingKamping_Kaiser: yeah ;) Maybe I should just build my own ;)02:50
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aftertaffine ;) and yourself?02:50
dan2005oh thanks frogzoo02:50
Kamping_Kaiseraftertaf: drunk, so fine :D02:50
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aftertaflaszlok:  a crossover cable? if setup ok for tcp/ip, then yes02:51
Kamping_Kaiserhi sugoruyo02:51
aftertafloool Kamping_Kaiser02:51
Kamping_Kaiser:P af02:51
Kamping_Kaiser:P aftertaf02:51
aftertafpusling:  ever done your own ?02:51
aftertaflol Kamping_Kaiser02:51
frogzoodan2005 actually dump's better - preserves devices file02:51
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burepeYeah! I finally got my ports forwarded! Thanks y'all!02:52
puslingaftertaf: multiple times - but on these machines, I prefer stock kernels ;)02:52
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mtupperiwolfe, check the pastebin please...02:52
frogzoodan2005, or cpio02:52
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infowolfemtupper: didn't get a link to it.02:52
puslinghttp://pastebin.com/41713502:52
puslinglspci on my machine(s)02:53
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infowolfelaszlok: of course it's possible to do whatever you want to do, but nfs is too much of a pain for quick "smash'n'grab" filecopies02:53
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mtuppermy bad, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4063 (full rookie status, this is first for almost everything i do...)02:53
infowolfepusling: btw, what kernel?02:54
infowolfemtupper: what does apachectl configtest output?02:54
puslinginfowolfe: 2.6.12 smp 686 ubuntu breezy02:54
nightswimwhat could be wrong if xmms keeps segfaulting02:55
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SuperLaganyone use PPC and have a Hawking Tech HWU54G adapter working?02:56
infowolfepusling: wtf mobo is that then?02:56
puslinginfowolfe: a brand new dell pc ... with dell mobo02:56
SuperLagI do believe I have all that I need, (kernel source, kernel headers, driver source) and compiing the zd1211 drivers for this wlan adapter isn't working.02:57
rockviechhas anybody here tried gDesklet?02:57
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rockviechneed some help with it02:57
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rockviechdunno how to use it02:57
rockviechi installed it, downloaded a launcher bar02:57
rockviechbut now dont know how to continue02:57
infowolferockviech: i'm sure they have very good documentation somewhere, try google.com02:57
frogzooSuperLag - ieee headers perhaps?02:57
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frogzooor maybe the firmware for hotplug?02:58
sugoruyohey can anyone tell me what repos i need to add to synaptic?02:58
infowolfeSuperLag: you traitor ;-)02:58
rockviechinfowolfe, already did, maybe my englisch is to bad or im to stupid02:58
burepein bittorrent does uploading and dowloading use the same port?02:58
wickedpuppy!repositories02:58
ubotuHow to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example soruces.list02:58
SuperLaginfowolfe: nope.  Not at all. :)02:58
infowolfeburepe: no.02:58
SuperLaginfowolfe: btw... what are YOU doing, if *I* am the traitor? :)02:59
sugoruyo!sources02:59
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:59
frogzooburepe, no, it's more complex02:59
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aftertafnightswim:  maybe try changing output engine...02:59
nightswim!mp302:59
ubotuit has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)02:59
nightswimhmm02:59
infowolfeSuperLag: dothan 2.13 doesn't have the guts to get me up and running quickly, my production servers all have super cow powers ;-)02:59
nightswimit used to work fine on the older ubuntu03:00
nightswimnow I shall give rhytmbox a try first03:00
nightswimif only I can get it to read mp3's :)03:00
aftertafnightswim:  yeah but now we have new improved bigs ;)03:00
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aftertafbugs even03:00
aftertafnightswim:  instal the restricted stuff like ubotu listed ;)03:00
wickedpuppynightswim, mp3 ? gstreamer03:00
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nightswimI am afraid of gstreamer03:01
wickedpuppywhy ?03:01
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wickedpuppyi am listening to mp3 on xmms now ...03:01
nightswimbad experiences in the past03:01
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nightswimyeah well xmms kinda works03:01
nightswimbut it segfaults at random moments03:01
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sugoruyois there any backports for breezy?03:02
burepeDoes that mean that i have to have a port forwarded for downloading and one for uploading infowolfe and frogzoo03:02
wickedpuppysugoruyo, topic03:02
frogzooburepe - nat will handle your outbound fine, you just have to forward the inbound port for peeps to connect03:03
aftertaftopic!03:03
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politasHi-ho! Looking for some help with installing Breezy Badger.03:03
sugoruyo:(03:03
wickedpuppyfreenode sure is spliting and lagging03:03
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burepecool03:03
sugoruyonot yet? or not ever?03:03
frogzooburepe, you actually connect to multiple ports outbound03:04
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wickedpuppypolitas, ho hi .. ask dude03:04
burepeIs there a way to group like windows in the gnome gui like kde?03:04
andrehi!03:05
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aftertafburepe:  install kde ? ;)03:05
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politasAnyone know how to get around ehci_hcd throwing an "illegal capability!" error during install on a laptop?03:05
burepeI got it I am just diggin gnome right now03:05
SuperLagfrogzoo: I think it's more than 80211 headers.  When I get to work, I'll post the output.  LOTS of errors.03:05
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robotgeekburepe: how do u do it?03:05
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robotgeekburepe: forget it, i tht u mean tile  windows03:06
frogzooSuperLag, I'd guess you've got the wrong driver version then03:06
burepeoh03:06
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SuperLagThat's weird.  I don't think it's that either.  It gets recognized by Ubuntu as a zd1211, and those are the sources I have.03:06
WellyHi all, I'm having problems playing videos - I'm not getting sound with them. It's a quicktime video i'm trying to play.. am using Totem player03:07
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frogzooSuperLag, I was playing with ipw2200 last night, and there's a different driver point release for each kernel point release, or just about03:08
aftertafWelly:  have you installed all the restricted format codecs?03:08
Wellyaftertaf: i'm not 100% sure :)03:08
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Wellythe video is playing fine03:08
Wellyjust no audio03:08
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robotgeekWelly: could you try playing the same in vlc03:09
aftertafWelly:  ok.... check if you have all the codecs installed....... see ubotu03:09
aftertaf!tell welly about restricted03:09
Wellyrobotgeek: i'll try that03:09
Miksuhi. i need to change the owner of a mounted fat partition from root to my standard user03:10
Wellycheers, aftertaf i'll take a look03:10
aftertafrobotgeek:  good idea ;)03:10
Miksuthe dialog doesn't have any options for this...03:10
Wellyis vlc a package in the repository or will i have to download it from the vlc site?03:11
robotgeekWelly: vlc is in the universe reposity03:11
Wellyexcellent03:11
wickedpuppyMiksu, pls kindly use pastebin to paste /etc/fstab ...03:11
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cavediverHi guys. How do I install a luks-enabled cryptsetup in (K)ubuntu?03:13
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robotgeekany ppc java users here?03:14
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WhiteRabbit*whispers* Ajax *Ajax*03:14
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robotgeekWhiteRabbit: not that *java*03:14
frogzooMiksu - you want mount's "user" option03:15
dan2005is there easy way to share my folder to windows network03:15
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Revelliondan2005: samba03:16
politasAnyone know how to get around ehci_hcd throwing an "illegal capability!" error during install on a laptop?03:16
Revellionit's only during install?03:16
Revellionthen that's not a problem03:16
Revellionoh03:16
Revellionwait03:16
Revellionerror not a warning :S03:16
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politasRevellion: Yeah, the install is hanging at that point.03:18
RevellionHoary, Breezy?03:18
politasRevellion: Breezy03:19
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Wellynow thats interesting.. i've installed the codecs and the video works and I get audio in totem but in vlc I get video but no audio03:19
RevellionNormal, Expert, Server, Server-Expert?03:19
RevellionWelly: not so odd..03:19
politasRevellion: Normal. Brand new laptop.03:19
RevellionWelly: the VLC in Breezy is retarded03:19
Revellionthe Hoary one was better03:19
Wellyhaha oh ok03:19
Revellionpolitas: try Expert03:19
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RevellionWelly: wait for the backports..03:19
Revellionor..03:19
Revelliondo like i do03:19
Revellionuse mplayer03:19
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Revellionapt-get install w32codecs mplayer-nogui03:19
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Wellyoh it works now03:20
Wellybizarre03:20
Wellymplayer?03:20
Revellionyes..03:20
RevellionWelly: you're a linux user and you have'nt heard about mplayer?03:20
Welly< linux user of a week03:20
Revellionit's the defacto player nr1 :|03:20
Revellionhttp://www.linspirenetwork.com/Support/gruberrors.htm03:20
Revellionplays about anything you throw at it03:20
Wellyah awesome.. just what i need03:21
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politasRevellion: Any particular options I should try? "expert" hangs at the same point.03:21
Revellionpolitas: skipping the point where it hangs?03:21
Revellionalso when it hangs03:21
Revellionif you can't get out of the hang03:21
RevellionCtrl+C it03:21
Wellymplayer-nogui depends: libdeirectfb-0.9-20 but it is not installable03:21
Revellionand the installer should restart itself03:21
politasDon't have an option of skipping anything03:21
RevellionWelly: get universe and multiverse into your sources.list03:22
Revellionpolitas: yes you can :)03:22
Revellionif it's not an important step03:22
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Revellionyou can just select the upcoming step03:22
Revellionalso...03:22
Revellionwhere does it hang?03:22
politasIt hasn't gotten to the installer, it's still booting.03:22
Revellionaaaaaaaaaaaaah03:22
Revelliongot any USB devices plugged in?03:22
dam_nedhmm, is there a packaged version of  kernel-image-2.6.14 available for breezy (or dapper)?03:22
politasYep, a mouse, but I get the same if I unplug it.03:22
Revellionpolitas: go into BIOS03:23
Revelliondisable the USB temporarily03:23
politasDon't know if any of the built-in HW is connected via USB interface.03:23
Revellionthen enable it again once you've installed it03:23
politasBIOS has no option to disable USB.03:23
Revellion..03:23
Revellionpolitas: what lappy is it?03:23
politasIt's a Dreambook Slim 80003:23
Revellionerr..03:24
Revellioncare to take that in Manufacturer - Model format instead? :)03:24
WhiteRabbitDisable -- USB Legacy support03:24
RevellionDreambook rings no bells03:24
RevellionPioneer?03:24
politasIt's a "white-box" laptop, from an Australian company.03:24
politasPioneer, yep.03:24
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WhiteRabbitnext laptop should be a http://www.emperorlinux.com/03:25
WhiteRabbit^^03:25
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politasBIOS has no options referring to USB at all. Not one.03:25
aftertafany quick and sexy way of setting up bind8 for dynamic updates from dhcp3?03:26
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BooZeefont help - can I download and use any font type that I want in ubuntu? do I need to register it? where do I put it?03:27
hyperactivecrondhow does one install the bootsplash theme for ubuntu?03:27
nekostarBooZee, ive been able to use all the ttf fonts i wanted to03:28
WhiteRabbithyperactivecrond, sudo apt-get slowthestartupdownatad03:28
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hyperactivecrondWhiteRabbit, that was almost funny :P03:28
nekostar/etc/X11/fonts/03:28
nekostar100dpi/ 75dpi/  misc/   Type1/03:28
Madeyeguys is there a adept for gnome ?03:28
WhiteRabbit;)~03:28
aftertafMadeye:  nope its kde only. youhave synaptic tho03:29
apokryphosmadalena: adept for gnome? You mean a package manager for gnome?03:29
nekostarbut i think there should be a ~/.fonts or something like that in your home directory03:29
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hyperactivecrondno b/c i'm giving a ubuntu cd to a n00b and I think that maybe since this _is_ his 1st distro, and ubuntu doesn't have someting like rhgb, i figured it'd make it a little more user-friendly for him03:29
BooZeenekostar:  and do I need to register it before using?03:29
nekostari dont recall to be honest..03:29
nekostarbut yeah i think you gotta do something with it03:30
nekostarlemme see here...03:30
aftertafhyperactivecrond:  it is in breezy though03:30
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BooZee!fonts03:30
ubotufrom memory, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto03:30
hyperactivecrondaftertaf: i'm giving him the breezy preview cd b/c i dont feel like sitting on my comp doin nothing for 1.5 hours to download a new cd03:30
hyperactivecrond!bootsplash03:30
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, hyperactivecrond03:30
politasSo, any ideas on how I can get the install to skip loading ehci_hcd?03:30
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cansa_FAILED because of modem_run error 23503:31
cansa_arrrggggg03:31
hyperactivecrondi figured as much... oh well he'll have to live with a buncha kernel messages scrolling03:31
cavicis there a package for File::RsyncP?03:31
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politasOr do I have to give up on Ubuntu and go with another distrib?03:32
aftertafhyperactivecrond:  its a n00b test... the more you understand what is being said, the less n00b you are03:32
Madeyeaftertaf, well, I like the filtering model in it, synaptic doesnt have such powerful filtering03:32
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hyperactivecrondaftertaf: he's a N00B officially b/c this is his 1st distro03:32
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aftertafpolitas:  isnt there a kernel command to stop that?03:32
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aftertafpolitas:  or try server install.....03:33
hyperactivecronduhoh:: (in slack channel) nologo and have you seen the Ubuntu tag lines?03:33
hyperactivecrondnologo: "Linux for Human Beings"03:33
politasI don't know.03:33
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Revellionpolitas: should'nt be necessary03:33
Revellionpolitas: but there should be an kernel paramf03:33
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hyperactivecrondnologo:screw you hippie03:33
hyperactivecrondpfft03:33
Revellionto disable USB during the installation03:33
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politasThat's what I was thinking, but I don't know kernel parameters.03:33
aftertafhyperactivecrond:  ehe.... slackware is for masochists03:34
Revellionpolitas: /me checks03:34
Whistlerwhats the default font and font size in xchat?03:34
hyperactivecrondaftertaf, i've tried it03:34
politasRevellion: Thanks, much appreciated.03:34
Revellionfont: ugly - font-size: incredibly large03:34
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aftertafhyperactivecrond:  and? are you a maso? ;)03:34
Revellionpolitas: AAAH!03:34
Revellionsimple stuff03:35
hyperactivecrondtheir package management system is almost like working with rpm03:35
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Revellionnormal nousb03:35
Revellionsimple as taht03:35
hyperactivecrondaftertaf: _tried_03:35
Revellion*that03:35
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Revellion        nousb           [USB]  Disable the USB subsystem03:35
Revellionsince it probably is just a problem during install03:35
Whistlerwhats the default font and font size in xchat?03:35
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Revellionaftertaf: heh?03:35
politasOk, I'll give that a go. Hopefully, the keyboard will still work03:35
_jasonWhistler:  Sans 1003:35
Revellioni just read kernel-parameters.txt...03:35
Revellionpolitas: i'll be roting for ya03:35
_jasonWhistler:  I think, I dont remember changing it03:35
Revellionhope you succeed03:35
Revellionor w/e... XD03:35
elkbuntuanyone used the various web development applications enough to advise whether there is an application that would run on gnome on a p2 350mhz / 256 ram /160 swap, that does not gradually suck up memory or hog cpu during large pastes?03:35
RevellionWhistler: usually the same as GTK03:36
Nihil85hallo03:36
elkbuntubluefish is getting annoying :(03:36
RevellionWhistler: unless otherwise specified03:36
Revellionelkbuntu: SciTE03:36
WhistlerRevellion i have installed xubuntu03:36
politasNope. Same thing.03:36
politasBummer.03:36
Whistlerand the font and the size is different03:36
imc_Breezy - trying to install network-manager with apt-get and it installs but I can't launch- what gives?03:36
Revellionpolitas: hmm03:36
aftertafelkbuntu:  id ditch gnome for one.... se e17 or wmaker, something lighter....03:36
Revellionthe error is USB related hmm03:36
Nihil85i have a problem not concernig Ubuntu. An HD of mine has the file system damaged. How can i rescue all the data inside this HD?03:36
Revellionpolitas: usb-handoff ?03:37
politasRevellion: still loaded up all the USB stuff.03:37
aftertafNihil85:  what type of filesystem?03:37
Revellionubuntu usb-handoff03:37
Revelliondunno if it really could just accept params03:37
Revellionand i'am not sure it's normal03:37
Nihil85fat3203:37
Revellionit might be ubuntu nousb03:37
elkbuntui dont have the time for that right now aftertaf, im in the middle of a huge major project for school and have already had to reinstall the whole system once because a friend insisted upgrading to breezy through the repos was easy... and it was until my hdd ran out of space03:37
Nihil85aftertaf, the situation is very complex03:37
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ompaulNihil85, use a live CD mount it and copy it to a burner03:37
imc_Anyone using network-manager?03:38
Revellionelkbuntu: you could use SciTE for working with markup/CSS/JS/PHP/etc...03:38
Nihil85ompaul, i cannot access the HD03:38
aftertafelkbuntu:  then grab xfce... and run apt-get clean to empty the cache...03:38
politastrying "linux usb-handoff" also fails to make a difference.03:38
aftertafNihil85:  yeah but you need to know the fs in order to mount03:38
elkbuntuaftertaf i dont have time to mess with sessions03:38
Revellionpolitas: damn ...03:38
Revellionit should make a difference...03:38
elkbuntui have 4 days left to do half a content management sistem03:38
elkbuntusystem*03:38
politasActually, I tell a lie, it does make a difference.03:39
Revellion.......03:39
ompaulNihil85, is the disk in the same building as you are in?03:39
Revellionhmm03:39
aftertafelkbuntu:  you'l have the same session etc..... serious, remove the cache, then install a light WM and run it from gdm, you wont lose anything and you'll gain in speed possibly03:39
politasI don't get the "illegal capability!" line, but the install still hangs after the dubug port 1503:39
Nihil85aftertaf, the FS is FAT32, i know it. but it's damaged and sometimes Ubuntu doesn't recognize it and sometimes it recognize the FS like a NTFS03:39
Nihil85ompaul, yes...03:39
aftertafNihil85:  sounds completely screwed then... only thing to try is to mount it and copy things.03:40
dooglusdoes linux NEED to have EXT2 available to the kernel?  all of my partitions are reiserfs - so can I do away with ext2 altogether?03:40
elkbuntuaftertaf, would you please mind not being so pushy. i am stressed enough without it. the ONLY time my system loses memory into an abyss is when i have bluefish open for a few hours03:40
aftertafpolitas:  weird as square tomatoes....03:40
Revellionpolitas: debug port 15...03:40
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Nihil85aftertaf, pleas help me in private03:40
aftertafelkbuntu:  ok, no probs.... not wanting to hassle ya ;)    just that i noticed a huge difference in performance once i changed wm...03:40
dooglusaftertaf: can I pm you and ask you stupid questions until your head explodes.  please?03:41
aftertafNihil85:  i dont know what to sugest apart from trying to mount, and if that fails, putting the disk i the bin03:41
aftertafdooglus:  oh please do ;)03:41
aftertafrofl03:41
doogluslol03:41
politasRevellion: Yep, the full line is [4294669.710000]  ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: debug port 1503:41
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elkbuntui have tried xfce on this, i had a session set up before the wonderful 3.1gb hdd running out of space, but i didnt like the way it worked... i kept accidentally right clicking programs open on accident03:41
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aftertafelkbuntu:  only 3.1 gb? ouch03:42
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nekostararg03:42
ompaulNihil85, its simple you boot a live CD you copy the data when it mounts, if it fails to mount you try to mount it again, you copy the data to another drive either a harddrive or CDrom, that is how complex it is03:42
elkbuntuits a dev server, i have a *spit* winxp pc03:42
elkbuntuthat after school finishes is gaining a few extra boots03:42
ompaulNihil85, messaging people without permission is the fastest way to end up on an ignore list03:42
Revellionpolitas: the lappy got wifi yes?03:42
Nihil85ompaul, i cannot read the HD03:42
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politasRevellion: Yes.03:42
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Nihil85mounted or unmounted i cannot read it03:42
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Revellionpolitas: does it have a button for turning off/on the wireless?03:42
Revellionor maybe..03:42
Revelliona setting in BIOS?03:43
Revellionseems some people according to google solved it by temporarily disabling it during installation03:43
ompaulNihil85, so try again, and again, if not you have to go to one of these specialist companies and the data better be worth in excess of 10k03:43
politasRevellion: It has a button.03:43
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Revellionpolitas: the state of the wifi on cd boot is?03:43
Revellionon or off?03:43
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Nihil85ompaul, i olny said HALLO. if it's a proble, then put me in the ignore list and goodbye.03:43
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politasRevellion: It's on. The button doesn't seem to be working03:43
Nihil85ompaul, and thanks for the hand03:44
ompaulNihil85, if it was a problem would I have continued typing03:44
Revellionpolitas: go into BIOS then03:44
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aftertafelkbuntu:  have you tried nvu, its a sort of updae to bluefish. maybe a bug or two fixed.03:44
Revellionshould be an option there atleast03:44
Nihil85ompaul, so we can go on. And always thank for the hopeful hand03:44
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Revellionaftertaf: WYSIWIG's are evil03:44
robotgeek!tell me about msgthebot03:44
RevellionXD03:44
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aftertafRevellion:  hehehe03:44
elkbuntui have considered it. how memory expensive is it, do you know?03:44
Revellionaftertaf: they are! :)03:44
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Kamping_Kaiser:) yeh. *agrees with Revellion*03:45
elkbuntui came in here mainly to hear of other people's experiences03:45
politasRevellion: Ah, got the wifi turned off. Still hangs.03:45
Revellionaftertaf: it encourages sloppy and markups :)03:45
Nihil85ompaul, why the live cd is better than a normal installed version of ubuntu?03:45
Revellionpolitas: sob03:45
aftertafRevellion:  i know:) but i cant html in the dark to save my [censored] 03:45
Revellionpolitas: what if you turn it on then?03:45
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aftertafNihil85:  you dont have to install anything that way.03:45
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Revellionwww.w3schools.com <= all you WYSIWIG slaves visit that link now03:45
RevellionXD03:45
elkbuntuapologies too, i keep forgetting to address you :(03:45
aftertafelkbuntu:  i dont know, i dont do much webdev...03:46
politasrevellion: well, it was failing with it on before03:46
elkbuntueww wysiwig... who needs that03:46
elkbuntugimme code any day03:46
elkbuntu:P03:46
Revellion:)03:46
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Revellionpure hand-authored markup is best ;)03:46
elkbuntuhell yeah03:46
Revellionless cruft03:46
ompaulNihil85, I do not know the layout of your machine, I do not know if it is the same disk as Ubuntu, you have told us very little and I prefer to do rescue jobs with known media03:46
elkbuntuyou actually know what it's being told to do03:46
Nihil85i had an idea: what if i try (with gparted) to change the file system into FAT32 like it is? Or will I erase all the data?03:46
Revellionelkbuntu: but... what tools do you need in the editor?03:46
aftertafnotepad.exe ? :)03:46
ompaulNihil85, is a partition?03:47
Revellionelkbuntu: if you need what i need then it's Syntax Hiligting, code-folding, some other stuff03:47
Revellionthen SciTe does it03:47
ompaulNihil85, or a full disk?03:47
Revellionaftertaf: i'd take Nano instead of notepad anyday ;P03:47
elkbuntumainly, a box that has the code and a box with a simple directory tree03:47
Nihil85nomed, ompaul. it's a real Hardisk03:47
elkbuntuive got a dozen and 1 includes, the file tree helps alot03:47
robotgeekelkbuntu: how much time do u have? cause vim does all that too :)03:47
Revellionelkbuntu: aaaah03:47
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Nihil85ompaul, a full hardisk03:47
Revellionthen SciTE does'nt do that03:47
ompaulNihil85, I would not go playing with that, you risk more than you may gain03:47
elkbuntui noticed03:47
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defcon8Revellion, doesn't03:47
golan77hi to everybody!03:47
Nihil85ompaul, i have understood03:47
aftertaf!cigarette03:48
ubotuIt's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)03:48
defcon8hello golan7703:48
elkbunturevellion: svu and quanta are the best looking ive found so far03:48
Nihil85ompaul, can we talk in private?03:48
elkbuntuerr, nvu03:48
politasRevellion: Just ran with usb-handoff again, and got a couple of extra lines before it froze.03:48
elkbuntui always do that typo :\03:48
ompaulNihil85, I see no point, I have given you the useful info I have, there is no extra benefit03:48
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KlaasShi03:48
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politasnew USB bus registered, assigned bus number 303:49
Nihil85ompaul, the fact is that i cnnot mount the hd because there's an unknown filesystem.03:49
shimmyhi03:49
politasirq 23, io mem 0x8000000003:49
politaspark 003:49
elkbuntui guess i will just stick with bluefish for the next few days... it's not that bad, just like 10 second waits when pasting anything more than a couple of lines03:49
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Nihil85ompaul, the file system is corrupt, i guess. It was broken by a malicious Hardisk firewire&usb Box03:50
politasRevellion: I'm syuspecting the card reader may be involved03:50
KlaasShi everyone, i've got this booting problem with ubuntu, when i try to install ubuntu, it hangs when it says = booting linux, loading kernel, i've tried the 5.04 and the 5.1003:50
apokryphoselkbuntu: why would you ever use that if Quanta+ exists? 8)03:50
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gwarkcan i find in terminalif my cpu is SSE2 ?03:51
elkbuntubecause quanta is kde oriented and with all the extra libraries would eat up amost another 100meg of my remaining 800meg hdd space03:51
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ompaulNihil85, do this from ubuntu: >> sudo fdisk -l << and put the output in paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:51
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JizzbugAnybody here know racoon/setkey (IPsec stuff) very well?  I'm trying to setup a VPN server for tunnel clients with dynamic IPs, having problems with "generate_policy on" and the SPD database.03:53
Nihil85ompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/406503:53
ompaulNihil85, try this   >> mkdir /mnt/other ; mount -t vfat /dev/hda3 /other << where /mnt /other does not exist on your machine already03:55
ompaulNihil85, error   >> mkdir /mnt/other ; mount -t vfat /dev/hda3 /mnt/other <<03:55
ompaulNihil85, left out the second /mnt in the first one03:56
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Nihil85ompaul, i cannot understand you03:58
Nihil85ompaul, what's the exact command i should do?03:58
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ompaulNihil85, try this in a terminal  >> mkdir /mnt/other ; mount -t vfat /dev/hda3 /mnt/other << the command lies between the <>03:58
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SinphaltimusHello...03:59
Nihil85it gave me the same result of yesterday03:59
Jizzbuganybody know ipsec stuff here (racoon, isakmpd, setkey, etc)?03:59
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Nihil85ompaul, the result is: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblocks, ecc ecc04:00
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SinphaltimusI was able to run the LIVE CD (5.10) on a dell optiplex and a PC clone with absolutely no isses. Runs great, very impressed. However, I can't seem to get it to work on an older NEC Versa SX laptop.04:01
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SinphaltimusVideo display corruption and NIC issues.04:01
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SinphaltimusIs there a driver repository for hardware where I maybe able to find hardware specific fixes under Ubuntu? Forgive my Windows based lingo, this is my first attempt ever at trying anything linux based.04:02
Nihil85ompaul, are you connected?04:02
ompaulNihil85, yes I am thinking04:03
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budonghello04:03
Nihil85ompaul, thanks04:04
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aftertafgood think ompaul and god weekend to you :)04:04
aftertafbye all04:04
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ompaulNihil85, try this   >> mkdir /mnt/other ; mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /other << we will try the second drive now04:04
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ompaulNihil85, try this   >> mkdir /mnt/other ; mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /mnt/other <<  {note to self cut the correct one next time}04:05
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SinphaltimusAny tips or recommendations for resources to help me trouble shoot the issues I have reported?04:06
budongexit04:06
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Seveas(couldn't resist)04:06
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ompaulSeveas, well he was being a rabbit hopping in and out :)04:06
Wo|fJust wanted to say thanks to all the developers of Ubuntu, I am really digging this distro! Have a great day!04:07
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robotgeeki just updated the javappc wiki page with information about getting java1.5 :)04:07
ompaulWo|f, tell them in #ubuntu-devel - Note it is not a support channel at all :-)04:07
ompaulno not even for anyone04:08
Wo|f:)04:08
robotgeekSinphaltimus: we see you. unfortunately, i have no idea what's goin on04:08
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frogzooSinphaltimus, Versa's were always a problem - gl finding drivers04:08
Wo|fI haven't needed support yet, everything is working out of the box04:08
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mahanguanybody got kismet working?04:09
ompaulNihil85, did that do anything for you?04:09
WhiteRabbitair sniffing fun fun04:09
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SinphaltimusSorry, I was under the impression I could get support here. Didn't know it was a developers IRC.04:09
robotgeekSinphaltimus: this is a support group04:09
mahanguSinphaltimus, this is support IRC04:09
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GNULinuxerSinphaltimus: it's not04:10
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robotgeeka developers irc04:10
ompaulSinphaltimus, this is support04:10
Seveasapokryphos, *g* some people don't want to take a hint :)04:10
mahanguWhiteRabbit, kismet? :)04:10
ompaulSinphaltimus, what I said was: Wo|f, tell them in #ubuntu-devel - Note it is not a support channel at all :-)04:10
WhiteRabbitmahangu, yes kismet is good stuff04:10
mahanguWhiteRabbit, having some problems connecting, you in #ubuntu-offtopic?04:11
apokryphosSeveas: [15:03:22]  <Erwin_fire> i'm not fujisan <Erwin_fire> i'm his brother04:11
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ompaulSinphaltimus, it is not referred to #ubuntu-devel04:11
WhiteRabbitmahangu, I don't use that channel sorry04:11
frogzooSinphaltimus, it was hard to get even the right doze drivers on Versas04:11
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frogzooI think the internals were mostly proprietary and never released04:11
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Miksuhi!04:12
eeaaxxanybody knows where can i find the repository for xmame?04:12
Sinphaltimusfrogzoo:Thanks, is there a list of laptops known to work well with Ubunto. I dunno, maybe I'll just run the live CD on everything I have until I find something that works.04:12
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Miksui need to give permanent ownership for a mounted fat32 partition for myself. the partition is /media/hda104:13
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RaggedJackhow do I not assign an IP address to an interface but still enable it.04:13
Nihil85ompaul, the result is: root@Olidata:~# mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /other04:13
Nihil85 mount: il mount point /other non esiste04:13
Nihil85root@Olidata:~#04:13
Sinphaltimuseeaaxx - have you tried www.rom-world.com?04:13
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frogzooeeaaxx, multiverse apparently04:13
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eeaaxxSinphaltimus: yes. but i don't have the emulator. i would like to know where can i download xmame?04:13
frogzooRaggedJack - ifconfig eth0   ?04:14
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ompaulNihil85, do not paste in here paste.ubuntulinux.nl - I repeated the command with a small change >>  mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /mnt/other04:14
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Nihil85ompaul, ok04:14
SinphaltimusOK, I gotta run..... Thanks all. As soon as I can find appropriate HW to run Ubuntu on, I'm sure I'll be much happier and be back here a lot more.  Looking to learn everything I can....Bye for now.04:14
MiksuRaggedjack ifconfig eth0 inet dhcp 0.0.0.0 up04:14
eeaaxxfrogzoo: multiverse? sorry, i am new to ubuntu04:15
Miksuso can you help me how to change the ownership of a mounted partition04:15
robotgeek!tell eeaaxx about repos04:15
RaggedJackMiksu why would I use dhcp as oppsed to static?04:15
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MiksuRaggedJack whatever you want to use. i use dhcp because my router acts as both dns and dhcp server04:16
frogzooeeaaxx, run up synaptic, and in options, and checkbox in settings -> repositories -> settings -> show disabled software sources04:16
RaggedJackI don't ever want the interface to get an IP address04:16
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Rawplayerre04:16
frogzooeeaaxx, then settings -> repositories  and select multiverse binary04:17
MiksuRaggedJack for me it's a lan side address. totally irrelevant for anything on the wan side04:17
robotgeekRaggedJack: you want to disable the network interface?04:17
frogzooeeaaxx, then you can edit -> search -> xmame     select & apply04:17
RaggedJackI am configuring snort and don't need an IP address just the device04:18
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eeaaxxfrogzoo: ok. thanks04:18
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stashi04:18
frogzooRaggedJack, ifconfig eth0 up --- will do what you want, but why? hmmm sniffing?04:18
MiksuRaggedJack if you like to have the whole deal for your info, type info interfaces in the terminal. and info ifconfig for the configuration part04:18
stashow can I update to the new ubuntu+04:18
stasI am running 5.04 now04:18
RaggedJackYes04:18
stascan I install 5.10 without burning any CDs?04:18
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Revellionstas: depends :)04:18
Revellionstas: if you got a live Linux enviroment from another CD04:19
burepeI have an extra hard drive on my comp and I had changed the permissions of some folders and when I restarted the computers, there were a bunch of errors and blah blah blah, and now there are all these fsck0043,ren files all with different numbers instead of 43. Is this bad? can I just delete the files?04:19
Revellionyou could use it to bootstrap it04:19
KlaasShi, i had the problem that my kernel couldn't boot, i have fixed that with the command ' linux irqpoll pci=noacpi ', but even if i enter that command, it hangs, it hangs on differen places, the only help of this command is, is that the kernel loads...04:19
Revellionor..04:19
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Revellionusing Netboot/PXE/AFTP to install it across the network04:19
farruinnstas: just change your /etc/apt/sources.list, do apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade04:19
jronis there a list somewhere of xorg configs per monitor type? i really don't wana fry my monitor... again...04:19
Revellionstas: or if you meant upgrading..04:19
frogzooburepe, this is very bad - your file system has been trashed - best to restore from backup if possible04:20
stasI want to upgrade my current 5.04 system04:20
farruinnRevellion: he said he's already running 5.0404:20
Revellionalter sources.list to breezy and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade :)04:20
stasto 5.1004:20
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burepewhy did it happen?04:20
trappistfrogzoo: all you really need to know for your monitor is the refresh rate, which should be documented by the manufacturer04:20
jhavihola04:20
Revellionfarruinn: hmmz, :o, damn window was a bit too small to see that part :)04:20
stasfarruin what's an \etc?04:20
trappisterr04:20
apokryphosstas: read the /topic for instructions on how to upgrade04:20
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farruinnstas: do you use synaptic or apt?04:20
Miksuhow do i change the ownership of /media/hda1 from root to myself04:20
stasand what do I change it to04:20
trappistjron: all you really need to know for your monitor is the refresh rate, which should be documented by the manufacturer04:20
frogzooburepe, probably you were writing to disk when you cut the power...?04:20
Miksufarruinn synaptic edits the same file as you want it to from the gui04:21
stasok thanks :)04:21
Miksufarruinn of synaptic's repositories part04:21
burepeok, isn't there something that prevents me from doing that?04:21
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farruinnMiksu: yes I know, I was asking him to see if he'd be more comfortable using synaptic or editing /etc/apt/sources.list directly04:21
jrontrappist, hmmm, okey ;P04:22
frogzooburepe, if your hard drives busy, and you kick out the power cord....04:22
burepeno it was nothing like that.04:22
burepeI just restarted04:22
jhavialguien save como instalar gstreamer0.8-mad????  por favor... necesito ayuda...04:23
_jason!sp04:23
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ubotu_jason: I give up, what is it?04:23
_jason!es04:23
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:23
Dasnipa`no en espaniol04:23
Miksufarruinn my opinion is that the interfaces file is something you want to edit manually , but the repositories is so simple you can just go for the gui04:23
burepe$/join #ubuntu-sp04:23
burepeI think04:23
GNULinuxer-es04:23
zenroxname a easy program that i can use to split mp3 in to 2 parts so it can be burnt to a music cd04:23
burepe$/join #ubuntu-es04:24
burepeof couse04:24
frogzooburepe, that isn't normal, no, you've done something wrong without knowing it04:24
farruinnMiksu: interfaces file?04:24
WhiteRabbit!restricted04:24
ubotuI heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs04:24
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burepeI was trying to change the permissions04:24
Miksufarruinn etc/network/interfaces .. it is your network settings04:24
frogzooburepe, how did you reboot?04:24
burepethrough the gui04:24
Miksufarruinn that your network settings gui edits04:24
farruinnMiksu: oh, network interfaces, I thought you were still talking about apt :P04:24
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Miksufarruinn but do you know how to change the ownership of a mounted fat32 partition04:25
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frogzooburepe, and how was the file system set up? linux syncs the disks before rebooting - for some reason, this didn't happen04:25
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burepefrogzoo, should I just reformat the harddisk?04:26
frogzooburepe, if you don't need the data, yes04:26
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Miksuburepe if you want to do a fresh install, you should also wipe your master boot record04:26
frogzooMiksu, the install will install an MBR for you04:27
Miksufrogzoo paranoia :)04:27
burepefrogzoo, I don't know I am pretty new at this so it could be the mount, or the permissions04:27
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Miksufrogzoo, besides, if  you want to grub to be on your harddrive, what do you do with a corrupted mbr on the disk..04:27
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burepeMiksu, it is a second hard drive, I don't need to do a reinstall right?04:27
frogzooburepe, the thing is to find out what went wrong so it doesn't happen again04:27
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burepei have no idea how to do that frogzoo04:28
Miksuburrepe if your mbr is not on the same disk, the other disk should go with a format, i think04:28
Nihil85ompaul, the page is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/406604:29
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Nihil85ompaul, excuse me but i was at the telephone04:29
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burepeMiksu, what is mbr04:29
frogzooburepe, just a suggestion, have you read the Ubuntu user guide?04:29
burepeno04:29
KlaasShi, i had the problem that my kernel couldn't boot, i have fixed that with the command ' linux irqpoll pci=noacpi ', but even if i enter that command, it hangs, it hangs on differen places, the only help of this command is, is that the kernel loads...04:29
burepeI should huh04:30
Miksuburepe for example, it contains the info needed to boot your os04:30
Revellionburepe: MBR = Master-Boot-Record04:30
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Miksuburepe it can also contain a boot loader, like GRUP04:30
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burepeHow do i find the master boot loader04:31
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JazzCrazedmornin/afternoon/evenin all04:31
burepeDo I need to change some settings in the mbr?04:31
ompaulNihil85, your machine has me beaten, I can't think of any more to do with that, there is one last thing you can try, it may be destructive or it may work, there is a distro called "recovery is possible" I do not know if it would offer you any more than I have04:31
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frogzooburepe, don't concern yourself with the MBR - if you reinstall from CD, the installer takes care of that for you04:32
Miksuburepe if i would wanna trash a disk and install an os, i would boot from a bootable cd to the dos 7.10 installer, cancel it to enter a DOS shell, and type gdisk 1 /mbr /wipe04:32
Nihil85ompaul, lost for lost, i'm ready to do everything04:32
JazzCrazedi'm trying to print a pdf from evince who's page size is smaller than letter, to be centered on letter sized paper going thru an hp laserjet 8150n...but it prints by default in the upper left, and i can't seem to change that - can ne1 help me please?04:32
Miksuburepe you dont "DO" anything, you just tell a partitioner to clear it04:32
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burepeWait I am confused04:32
burepewhat does the last sentence mean? reformat?04:33
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burepeDo I need to reinstall if all the errors are on the second hard drive?04:33
carthikHi, would someone know why the Cpu freq. monitor panel applet has the "governor" feature disabled ? and how to enable it?04:33
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burepeI just set everything up after a reinstall04:34
Miksuburepe try booting an os you have on the first disk, if no problems just format everything on disk 2 and install there. when doing the partition setup, do not raise a boot flag on disk 204:34
frogzooburepe, these will help you to get up to speed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation http://ubuntuguide.org/04:34
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Nihil85ompaul, where i can find this program to recover my hardisk?04:34
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ompaulNihil85, it is a distro, and I do not know that it offers anything useful04:35
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ompaulNihil85, let me look at it for you04:35
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Miksuroot@DRAKALOR:/media#                                                   hda104:36
Nihil85thanks, ompaul04:36
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Miksuwhat command to change the ownership of "HDA104:36
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CalrenHi, I installed Ubuntu last night and was able to get it setup with some help from here. I tried turning my laptop on this morning and I'm stuck on "Starting hotplug subsystem"04:36
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burepeMiksu, if I have no problems  rebooting on the first disk do I have to install on the second one? The os is on the first disk the second is fat32. I can reformat easy but a reinstall on the first disk would suck04:37
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ompaulNihil85, its here >>  http://freshmeat.net/projects/recoveryispossible/?branch_id=8898&release_id=209317 << but will it try to do more than we have done, I don't know04:37
FarrisGDoes anyone have any experience with fresh Ubuntu kernels and broadcom gigabit NICs?04:37
ompaulNihil85, burn yourself a CD and remember which partitions your dealing with04:37
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JazzCrazedhow do i print a pdf so that it is centered on a page from evince?04:38
frogzooNihil85, have you tried mounting as msdos mebbe?04:38
ompaulfrogzoo, it does say 95 on fdisk -l04:38
mipsHi,04:38
Nihil85frogzoo, no i don't04:38
carthikCalren, if you just want to continue booting, press Ctrl+c which will kill the starting hotplug process04:39
Miksuburepe if anything from disk1 boot fine, your mbr is okay. if you have something from disk 2 listed in your boot loader and it wont boot, you have a trashed disk 2. format everything on disk 2, and install your os there. you should update the BOOT RECORD on disk 1 . to do this, do not raise a boot flag anywhere when installing, this tells the installer to reinstall the mbr on PRIMARY DISK which is DISK1 obviously04:39
ompaulNihil85, well to try it change -t vfat to -t msdos04:39
Calrencarthik:: um... it isn't working04:39
Nihil85ompaul, a guy from #ubuntu-it tell me to use easyrecovery for windows. do you know it?04:39
ompaulno04:39
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Nihil85ok04:40
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mipsI need a small bit of Firestarter help04:40
carthikHi, would someone know why the Cpu freq. monitor panel applet has the "governor" feature disabled ? and how to enable it?04:40
ompaul Nihil85 I have not run windows for myself since the early 90's, I have used it for people I worked for, but thats a different story04:40
Nihil85ompaul, mount -t msdos /dev/hdb1 /mnt/other?04:40
ompaulNihil85, yeap04:40
burepeSorry but the os is on disk one. If I reformat disk 2 i don't need to install. I don't need 2 OSes. Does that make sense?04:40
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Nihil85it's the same with msdos, ompaul04:41
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ompaulNihil85, try the recovery is possible CD it is possible you will not get anywhere with this, I don't know much about it04:42
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ompaulNihil85, it does get good ratings04:42
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mahangua compile of mine is trying to find libcurses04:42
mahangui cant find it in the repos04:43
mahangubackports?04:43
teimuis there a way to restart the computer from the command line?04:43
JazzCrazedmahangu, if u're using breezy, there are no backports04:43
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drcodehi all04:43
burepefrogzoo, if the ubuntu os is on disk one and my messed up disk is disk 2, is it ok to just reformat disk 2. Meaning since the os is on disk one, I don't have to reinstall, right?04:43
robotgeekteimu: sudo reboot04:43
mahanguJazzCrazed, hoary04:43
mahangui need it to compile kismet04:43
teimuthanks robot04:43
Rockett18teimu> sudo init 604:43
drcodeany one know web server for linux other then APACHE04:43
drcodesomthing lite04:43
Nihil85ompaul, the guy from ubuntu-it tell me that with that program for windows he rescue a formatted and re-partioned HD. i will try that program before04:43
JazzCrazedmahangu: dunno wut they r, sry :(04:44
Nihil85*re-partitioned04:44
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SamanthaGothLoveYea can somebody please post up a url for noobs wanting to install Ubuntu for the first time?04:44
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ompaulNihil85, you have a working Ubuntu it may kill off Ubuntu04:44
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deFryskSamanthaGothLove, klick yes for times , reboot , done04:44
deFryskfour*04:44
burepehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation http://ubuntuguide.org/04:44
burepethank frogzoo04:45
Nihil85ompaul, why? linux is in another HD04:45
ompaul!ubuntuguide04:45
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.04:45
frogzooNihil85, I can't help noticing you have LBA enabled on one disk, and not on the other - are both these disks from the same machine?04:45
deFryskburepe, please dont refer to ubuntuguide , for its on crack04:45
burepei just got refered to it04:45
robotgeekburepe: here?04:45
deFryskburepe, dont refer to it here please04:46
burepeyeah look up the page04:46
burepei get it04:46
ompaulhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/04:46
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burepesomeone just told me so i repeted the information04:46
ompaulNihil85, linux is on disk 1 and shares some space with fat32 on that drive04:46
deFryskburepe, sure but dont do it again ;)04:46
robotgeekburepe: no problems :)04:46
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spikehi04:47
burepei get it04:47
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spikeI upgraded to breezy and have no bootsplash. I've just apt-got usplash, what am I supposed to do now?04:47
dylan_hi everyone04:47
ompaulburepe, its not a problem but forget it use the link I gave there a moment ago :-) SamanthaGothLove that link is there for you also04:47
spikehey ompaul04:47
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ompaulhi spike04:48
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SamanthaGothLovekk i got it thankx04:48
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dylan_im trying to configure my proxy server.  i used the thing under System Preferences and typed in Automatic:  192.168.0.100.  Why dont programs like gtk-gnutella say that the proxy is enabled and that Im not firewalled?  Thanks for any answers.04:48
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queuetueIs there a way to install just a few packages from debian testing, without switching the entire system?04:48
farruinnpinning04:49
farruinn!apt-howto04:49
ubotuwell, apt-howto is at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html04:49
farruinncheck out the link, very useful04:49
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Nihil85ompaul, no. Linux is on disk 1 and the damaged hd is on disk204:50
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dylan_can somebody help me with my proxy server problem?04:50
robotgeekdylan_: is it not possible to set that proxy information in gk-gnutella?04:51
queuetuefarruinn: it is an impressive howto, but a quick scan does not indicate that it explains what I'm trying to find out...04:51
dylan_robotgeek, yes but im a little confused and it worked before the other way.  additioanlly, it makes my net browsing faster04:51
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zbinhi04:52
zbinhello04:52
queuetuefarruinn: A, "mixed system"04:52
robotgeekdylan_: hmm, i don't have much experience here. outta my league :(04:52
robotgeekzbin: hi04:52
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dottorpalhello...anyone could help me?04:53
farruinnqueuetue: yeah, I think that's the section. The howto does have the info though, I've gotten it from there before04:53
Nihil85i will reboot and try these programs, ompaul04:53
zbin04:53
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Nihil85goodbye04:53
dylan_Nihil85, would you help me configure my network proxy please?04:53
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zbin04:53
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dottorpalI can't boot kubuntu live on my powerbook titanium 550...anyone can help me?04:54
burepehelp:  I have a second harddrive (not my ubuntu os one, another fat32 one) and it has a bunch of errors, fsck0039.ren files, So apparently this is bad and the drive is messed. So this is the question, if I just reformat the second drive can I avoid a reinstall of ubuntu on the first drive?04:54
imc_Anyone using network-manager?04:54
burepe!chinese04:54
ubotuburepe: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?04:54
frogzoodylan_, do I understand correctly, you're proxying on the same box you're browsing from?04:54
imc_network-manager on breezy to be precise?04:54
dylan_frogzoo, yes04:54
burepewhat?04:54
robotgeekdottorpal: almost the same model. what happens?04:54
robotgeekimc_: used to use it? why?04:54
burepeubotu, what?04:54
ubotuWhat what, burepe?04:54
imc_I apt-get installed it and it installed without warning, then I couldn't run it! I tried just invoking network-manager but no soap. Did i miss a step?04:54
farruinnburepe: ubotu is a bot04:55
dottorpalI tried to press c04:55
frogzoodylan_, if the proxy's running, iptables can still block access if not configured properly04:55
dottorpalbut nothing...04:55
KlaasShttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=466955#post46695504:55
KlaasSplease help04:55
burepeyou tell me, "is what bigger than a bread box04:55
dottorpalI can't boot!04:55
robotgeekimc_: how are you trying to run it?04:55
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robotgeek!botabuse04:55
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.04:55
dottorpali insert the disc and then reboot the PB04:55
dylan_frogzoo, how do i know that the proxy's even running....how do i configure iptables to do this for me?04:55
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imc_robotgeek, I tried alt+F2 network-manager but that wasn;t recognized. . .04:55
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burepefarruinn, what do you mean? that is a program?04:56
imc_Or does it integrate with Network Monitor or something I missed?04:56
dylan_frogzoo, i just want my router to stop slowing shit down and make gtk-gnutella faster n stuff04:56
frogzoodylan_, see if the proxy port is open - netstat -ant04:56
robotgeekimc_: AFAIK, you run nm by using the applet. nm-applet &04:56
imc_AAAAAAHHHHH!04:56
frogzoodylan_, or look for the proxy process04:56
imc_Thanks, robotgeek, will try.04:56
farruinnburepe: yes, used for storing helpful bits of data like links04:56
dottorpali tryed with the C key pressed...04:56
dottorpalbut nothing04:56
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burepeI thought it was someone messing with me04:56
dylan_frogzoo, tcp        0      0 192.168.0.100:35620     64.12.201.40:5190       ESTABLISHED04:56
robotgeekdottorpal: okay, the cd might be faulty or something!04:56
dylan_what does that mean04:56
barosldid anyone use monkey's audio on linux?04:56
farruinnimc_: you can alsways do 'dpkg -L <package> | grep bin' to see what executables are installed04:57
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thevishyhi04:57
burepehow can that breadbox thing be helpful04:57
dottorpalare you sure?04:57
thevishycan someone help me ?04:57
dottorpalI can't boot anything..!04:57
robotgeekdottorpal: does it spit the cd out?04:57
dottorpalno04:57
frogzoodylan_, if that's it, you're proxy's not running - what are you using?04:57
dylan_frogzoo, Ubuntu Breezy with GNOME 2.12 and a Dlink DI-604 router04:57
thevishyubuntu is based on debian ?04:58
robotgeekdottorpal: hmm, does the tiger/jaguar cd boot?04:58
_jasonthevishy:  yes04:58
dottorpalbut I have just changed the combo unit with a piooner04:58
dottorpalk0504:58
frogzoodylan_, I'm just getting started with Ubuntu - what process does Ubuntu use for the proxy - apache?04:58
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thevishyi see and u guys like it ?04:58
thevishyi am gonna install it04:58
dylan_frogzoo, i have no idea04:58
robotgeek!tell thevishy about debian04:58
_jasonthevishy:  I think it is great.  It has become all I use04:58
thevishynice04:58
dottorpalin tiger no problem..but i can't boot! could be a pioneer problem?04:58
thevishyi am gonna install then04:58
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thevishycan u just help me figure out a few things?04:59
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deFryskthevishy, this is an ubuntu-channel people who dont like ubuntu dont come here ;)04:59
thevishyi have fc 3.0 in my system already04:59
robotgeekdottorpal: i was asking about the TIger boot disk/dvd04:59
mahangug++ -Ilibpcap-0.9.1-kis -O2 -Wall -DVERSION_MAJOR=\"2005\" -DVERSION_MINOR=\"08\" -DVERSION_TINY=\"R1\" -DTIMESTAMP=\"`cat TIMESTAMP`\"  -g -O2 -c util.cc -o util.o04:59
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thevishylol :)04:59
mahangu/bin/sh: g++: command not found04:59
mahangushit04:59
bob2mahangu: uh, install build-essential04:59
mahangusorry, was gonna paste just one line04:59
mahangui get that error, when i try to compile kismet04:59
bob2mahangu: also, why are you compiling kismet?04:59
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bob2mahangu: so, just install kismet using synaptic and go have a beer04:59
dottorpalI don't have it...i just buy this powerbook used04:59
thevishyhow do i install ubuntu from the live cd04:59
thevishy?04:59
bob2thevishy: you can't, get the install cd05:00
mahangubob2, im having problems on hoary05:00
bob2(you can but it's complicated)05:00
carthikWHy is the suid bit for /usr/bin/cpufreq-selector not set, anyone?05:00
farruinnthevishy: that will hopefully be a built-in feature for the next release05:00
mahanguthere are HOWTOs which tell me that i have to recompile with kernel headers05:00
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bob2mahangu: how do you think this "problem" would be solved by compiling anything?05:00
burepehelp:  I have a second harddrive (not my ubuntu os one, another fat32 one) and it has a bunch of errors, fsck0039.ren files, So apparently this is bad and the drive is messed. So this is the question, if I just reformat the second drive can I avoid a reinstall of ubuntu on the first drive?05:00
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bob2mahangu: no, those howtos are broken and wrong05:00
mahanguhowever a friend of mine just said to compile it from source05:00
deFryskfarruinn, that would be great :)05:00
bob2mahangu: your friend is silly, ignore them on this topic05:00
mahangubob2, i have a ipw2100 chipset05:00
bob2mahangu: so do I05:00
farruinndeFrysk: I think it's a pretty high priority for the devs05:00
carthikI can't modify the cpu freq using the panel applet cpu monitor - is there a reason why I shouldnt be able to do this?05:00
mahangubob2, how can i do this?05:00
mahanguim on hoary05:00
robotgeekdottorpal: hmm, no clue why it does that. either a problem with the cd or your cd drive05:01
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thevishyi cant install fm the liev cd version ?05:01
bob2mahangu: wtf05:01
bob2mahangu: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto05:01
thevishyknoppix cud05:01
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mahangubob2, I <had> it installed via apt-get05:01
bob2thevishy: that's why it's called the "live cd", not the "install cd"05:01
bob2mahangu: and?05:01
mahangudidn't work05:01
dottorpalcan I do anything in tiger?05:01
thevishybut i cud install knoppix with my live cd05:01
bob2mahangu: didn't work is not a description of the problem05:01
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farruinnthevishy: yes, but this isn't knoppix is it?05:01
bob2thevishy: then join #knoppix and have fun05:01
thevishynah05:01
bob2thevishy: if you wan't to install ubuntu, you'll need an install cd05:01
mahangubob2, heh, it just says eth1 is not a valid source05:01
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deFryskthevishy, your question has been answered I think05:02
mahangubob2, what is your config line?05:02
thevishylemme ask somethin05:02
farruinnthevishy: there is a livedvd available I believe that you can install from05:02
queuetue"W: GPG error: http://mirror.direct.ca testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F1D53D8C4F368D5D" ... how do I get the key for a repository mirror?05:02
thevishydoes a cd that boots means it live version ?05:02
mahangusource=ipw2100,eth1,ipw05:02
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mahanguright?05:02
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mahangu/etc/kismet/kismet.conf?05:02
frogzoomahangu compiling ipw from source is only straightforward if you're used to messing with c code05:02
deFryskthevishy, live versions boot with a desktop environment05:02
thevishythe dvd in which i had this distro says its ubuntu linux 5.0.405:02
deFryskinstall-cd's dont05:02
hilisopo #ubuntu-es05:02
mahangufrogzoo, im compiling kismet, not the driver05:03
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thevishyinstall-cd's start the installation straight away ?05:03
frogzoomahangu, but the stock ipw driver doesn't support monitor mode...05:03
carthikthevishy, yes05:03
bob2mahangu: source=orinoco,eth1,orinocosource05:03
thevishyi see , digit magazine gave this thing only05:03
dottorpalI also tryed an ubuntu dvd installation disc...but notthing!05:03
bob2mahangu: that is the only source line you want05:04
mahangufrogzoo, i heard that, but a friend of mine got kismet working on hoary by compiling the newest version from source05:04
dottorpalI'm not able to boot it..!05:04
frogzoomahangu, do "iwconfig eth1 mode monitor" - what do you get?05:04
mahangubob2, hoary or breezy?05:04
mahangufrogzoo, it dies05:04
bob2mahangu: warty, hoary, breezy05:04
farruinndottorpal: are you sure you're burning the discs correctly?05:04
dylan_frogzoo, any ideas?05:04
mahangubut my friend's machine dies on that too05:04
frogzoomahangu, run as root, or sudo05:04
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mahangubob2, what frogzoo said?05:04
carthikbob2, perhaps you'd know why the /usr/bin/cpufreq-selector has the suid unset - is there a reason why I have to do a chmod a+s for that executable to be able to control the cpu's freq using the cpu freq monitor panel applet?05:04
mahanguipw doesnt support monitor mode?05:04
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burepedottorpal, are you having a problem with the boot order in bios?05:05
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dottorpalbios?05:05
farruinnburepe: no, he's on a powerbook05:05
dottorpalhow can I access the bios?05:05
robotgeekburepe: ppc doesn't have stuff like that05:05
burepedottorpal, are you using mac05:05
burepeok05:05
bob2mahangu: install kismet using apt. add the line I showed you. run 'sudo kismet_server'.05:05
frogzoomahangu, the stock hoary ipw drivers don't no05:05
burepebios is not for mac05:05
dottorpalI'm using a mac yes!05:05
burepeit changes the boot order05:05
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burepebut are you sure the cd you have is for mac comps?05:05
dottorpalis there a boot order also in mac?05:05
farruinndottorpal: when you insert your discs in os x does it show you a bunch of files on the disc or just a *.iso?05:05
burepewhat cd are you using05:05
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mahangubob2, doing05:06
robotgeekfarruinn: good one05:06
frogzoomahangu, this is as far as I got last night - but the doc isn't complete and hasn't been maintained - it gets messy http://kerneltrap.org/node/541405:06
dottorpalfiles05:06
zbin05:06
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mahangufrogzoo, ive been told that HOWTO is wrong05:06
zbinchina05:06
bob2zbin: this is pretty clearly an english-speaking channel05:06
frogzoodylan_, unfortunately, I'm still getting up to speed on Ubuntu05:06
farruinndottorpal: you're holding the c key down immediately after you hear the boot chime?05:06
dottorpali downloaded the iso and then I burn it with nero under win05:06
frogzoomahangu, and they were right :D05:06
farruinndottorpal: did you download the ppc iso?05:06
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dylan_burepe, can you help me configure my network proxy?05:07
mahangufrogzoo, it sucks?05:07
dylan_having problems05:07
dottorpalyes immediately and also during the boot chime!05:07
burepewhat are you trying to do?05:07
dottorpalwhere am I wrong!?05:07
frogzoomahangu, but it does give you the overall view of what needs to be done to rebuild the ipw driver - I think if you had the right versions of everything, it could be made to work05:07
farruinndottorpal: the iso you downloaded, it had ppc in its name?05:07
robotgeekdottorpal: can u retry burning the cd at a lower speed05:07
dottorpalyes yes the iso is for PPC05:08
mahangufrogzoo, ive been told that the ubuntu kernels patched that05:08
mahanguwait ill tell you if this works05:08
dylan_burepe, i want gtk-gnutella to stop telling me that im firewalled05:08
burepesearch the web for mac boot order05:08
farruinndottorpal: that exhausts all of my ideas, try what robotgeek said05:08
thevishywhy is it that ubunut is only 1 cd ?05:08
dottorpaland I burn it with the track at once method05:08
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farruinnthevishy: because ubuntu is awesome like that05:08
robotgeekburepe: it's all right, he's doing the right things05:08
thevishyi see it has developing tools ?c++ ?05:08
robotgeekdottorpal: burn it at 8x/4x05:08
frogzoomahangu, but not hoary, think you'd be ok with breezy - the fact that "iwconfig eth0 mode monitor" doesn't work for you says that the driver doesn't support it05:08
thevishyjava etc ?05:09
burepedylan_, that is out of my league I think. I am new at this05:09
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farruinnthevishy: those aren't part of the default desktop installation, but they are available05:09
bob2thevishy: it uses remote internet archives to download them from05:09
thevishyi see , so i will have to download05:09
_jasonthevishy:  has all of those things in the repos.  It doesn't bloat the install with things not every user wants/needs.05:09
dottorpalok I'll try it05:09
thevishyyes , deb packages correct ?05:09
frogzoomahangu, I'm just going to install breezy & see how that goes05:09
thevishyi see05:09
KlaasShttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=466955#post46695505:09
KlaasSpls help05:09
Dr_Willisapt-get install build-essentials     :P gets all the C stuff ya need. (well most of it)05:09
farruinnthevishy: yes, but usually it's best *not* to just install any random deb you find05:09
mahangubob2, FATAL: Could not find 'monitor' private ioctl or use the newer style 'mode monitor' command.  This typically means that the drivers have not been patched or the correct drivers are being loaded.05:10
dottorpalbut the dvd version doesn't work...and I burn it at 4x!05:10
farruinnthevishy: there are tools that download the specific debs you need05:10
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bob2mahangu: sure you have ipw2100?05:10
thevishyi see05:10
robotgeekdottorpal: so, this is the kubuntu live dvd?05:10
mahangubob2, how can I check?05:10
dylan_bob2, would you mind helping me configure my network proxy...i want gtk-gnutella to stop telling me that im firewalled and cannot get a lot of results05:10
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frogzoomahangu, dmesg |grep ipw05:11
dottorpalI have the kubuntu live CD...and the Ubuntu DVD installation05:11
thevishyall of u did the shipit thing ?05:11
burepefrogzoo,   I have a second harddrive (not my ubuntu os one, another fat32 one) and it has a bunch of errors, fsck0039.ren files, So apparently this is bad and the drive is messed. So this is the question, if I just reformat the second drive can I avoid a reinstall of ubuntu on the first drive?05:11
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mahangubob2, ipw2200 :S05:11
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robotgeekdottorpal: try burning the live cd again, at 4X05:11
thevishywhat exactly is the use of live cd ?05:11
thevishyi mean what purpose does it serve ?05:12
dottorpalok...disc at once or track at once?05:12
_jasonthevishy:  to try it out before you install it05:12
thevishyif it cant be used for a hard disk installation ?05:12
thevishyi see05:12
farruinnthevishy: allows new users to test drive ubuntu before committing their machine to it05:12
burepethevishy, it is an os that runs all from a cd with out an install05:12
frogzooburepe, if there's no linux data on that drive, then as far as linux is concerned, you can do what you like with it - but are you trying to dual boot windows?05:12
thevishyyes05:12
thevishyso the mp3 player works ?05:12
mahangufrogzoo, i think you were right05:12
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thevishyand the video player ?05:12
mahangubut whre does that HOWTO go wrong?05:12
thevishyon live cd ?05:12
burepeno, I hace05:12
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=== deFrysk smells a troll ?
thevishyokie...lemme check it then05:13
thevishythank you05:13
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burepeI have a windows comp and a linux comp, the linux comp has a second hard drive that is fat32 to share with the windows comp, frogzoo05:13
robotgeekheh...must be a smart troll (with a lot of time :) )05:13
frogzoomahangu, I couldn't get it to compile cleanly - could fiddle with it, but upgrading to breezy will be quicker05:13
deFrysklol robotgeek05:13
robotgeekdottorpal: just try that. i've faced problems like that too05:14
mahangufrogzoo, what's your chipset again? ipw2200?05:14
frogzooburepe, but no OS, just data? then reformat & you're good :D05:14
mahanguwill it run on breezy for sure?05:14
ksmurfhey all.  Any suggestions for a good multi wifi conection manager?  I connect to 5 different networks and have to manually config each time.  Any suggestions would be Great.05:14
frogzoomahangu, yep05:14
burepecool05:14
mahangufrogzoo, also what is your thinkpad?05:14
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dottorpalok I'm going to burn05:14
burepethat meaning got lost in the last conversation thanks05:14
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robotgeekdottorpal: while you are at it, check the md5 of the iso of the live cd05:15
mahangufrogzoo, t42?05:15
robotgeekksmurf: network-manager05:15
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dottorpalhow can I check it?05:15
robotgeekksmurf: or have 5 scripts :)05:15
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ksmurfrobot thanks.....05:15
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burepefrogzoo, by the way I reposted the links you gave me for someone and a bunch of people were like noooo, apparently the ubuntuguide breaks things, just thought i would let you know05:16
robotgeekdottorpal: there's a program on windows which checks for you.05:16
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jronuhhh... does gentoo use a default root password or what?05:16
robotgeekdottorpal: lemme pull up the link, uno momento05:16
jroncuz it sure isn't the same as my user password.05:16
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farruinnjron: gentoo?05:16
frogzooburepe, yeh thanks, saw those - oops05:16
dottorpalbut I don't have a md5 file!05:16
jronerm ubuntu.05:16
jronjust switched last night :P05:16
farruinnjron: no, use sudo, that will ask for your user password05:16
dottorpalrobot ma sei italiano?05:16
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jronwhats the dif between sudo and su?05:17
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frogzoomahangu, Sony Vaio here dude05:17
andi5farruinn: sudo is heavily patched, is not it?05:17
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farruinnandi5: patched? how so?05:17
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mahangufrogzoo, after I do a install, how can i remove it?05:17
robotgeekdottorpal: gimme a minute. where is the kubuntu iso on? the windows machine, right?05:17
farruinn!rootsudo05:17
ubotuit has been said that rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:17
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robotgeekdottorpal: no speake italiano!05:18
frogzoomahangu, removing it will be as messy as the install - try it & see05:18
dottorpalyes yes the win machine05:18
frogzoomahangu, why not just move to breezy? install's only 20mins or so05:18
burepedottorpal, $/join #ubuntu-it05:18
dottorpalthanks robot for the support05:18
robotgeekdottorpal: http://www.nullriver.com/downloads/Install-winMd5Sum.exe that's the program to install.05:18
dottorpaloh..thanks burepe!05:19
sudeepHi i have ubuntu Hoary. The windows installation of vmware player said it requires a processor >686 , I have AMD k-6 which is not. Will it work if i use the linux version?05:19
robotgeekdottorpal: and this is the kubuntu breezy that we are talking about, right?05:19
dottorpalthe last verion 5.1005:20
mahangufrogzoo, pm?05:20
frogzoomahangu, actually, I have to split about now, sry05:20
sudeepHi i have ubuntu Hoary. The windows installation of vmware player said it requires a processor >686 , I have AMD k-6 which is not. Will it work if i use the linux version?05:20
robotgeekdottorpal: install that program, and check the md5 checksum of the iso file05:20
farruinnsudeep: please don't repeat your question like that. Have the courtesy to wait a few minutes, please?05:21
robotgeekdottorpal: here is the list of md5sums for kubuntu http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/MD5SUMS05:21
jronthanks, i understand how sudo differs from su and how the root user is setup on ubuntu now05:21
mahangui did a make install05:21
mahanguhow can i kill those files05:22
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mahangujust rm the dirs?05:22
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farruinnjron: it actually tells you during boot, but I think a lot of people skim by it05:22
farruinnjron: s/boot/installation05:22
queuetue_Has anyone installed openafs?  I'd really appreciate a working howto or just a set of instructions...05:22
airmikeyhow do i get the debian menu install ?05:22
farruinnairmikey: sudo apt-get install menu05:22
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dottorpalok thank you05:23
farruinnairmikey: it's in universe05:23
andi5farruinn: sed: -e expression #1, char 19: unterminated `s' command :P05:23
icemanxi need HELP05:23
robotgeek!tell icemanx about help05:23
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Decadentare there any encoders to play .wmv ??05:23
fmasiHow do i install  kmobiletools fo mu moto c65005:23
robotgeekicemanx: ignore that!05:23
farruinnandi5: huh?05:23
icemanxi need to install UBUNTU on 150 computers05:23
_jasonubotu:  tell decadent about w32codecs05:23
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robotgeekdottorpal: so, did the md5checksums match?05:24
icemanxi need automated install or network install on 150 computers at once05:24
icemanxHELP???05:24
sudeepis there anyone who can help me?05:24
airmikeythats already installed...im running openbox..the menu doesnt show up05:24
burepewhoa!05:24
robotgeekicemanx: are they pxe-bootable?05:24
icemanxyes05:24
mahangui did a make install. i want to remove those files05:25
queuetue_icemanx: yelling help a lot probably isn't going to get you a lot of it. ;)05:25
mahangucan i just kill the dir?05:25
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icemanxi am the system administrator for WVU05:25
airmikeyhow do i get debian menu to show up in openbox wm ?05:25
robotgeekicemanx: if so, set up a local repository. then, do a network install.05:25
icemanxwe recently switched from windows to ubuntu05:25
farruinnairmikey: I've never used openbox, is there a way to regenerate its menus?05:25
robotgeekairmikey: try googling for the program denu05:25
airmikeytreid05:26
burepethat is awsome!05:26
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ubuntuhi05:26
ubuntui am on live cd now05:26
icemanxso a local repository on the main computer, this one, then how do i get it to install to the others without setting up each one05:26
ubuntuhow do i mount my hard disk05:26
sudeephas anyone tried out vmware?05:26
robotgeek airmikey that did not work? cause i use that all the time :)05:26
ubuntuhow can i play an mp3 now ?05:26
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ubuntuhi sudeep05:27
ubuntufrom ?05:27
burepesudeep, yeah05:27
airmikeyrobotgeek:no it didnt05:27
ubuntukahan se hain aap ?05:27
airmikeythx05:27
ubuntuhow can acess my hdd on live cd05:27
burepeubuntu, german? #ubuntu-de05:27
burepe#ubuntu-de-treffpunkt05:28
burepe#kubuntu-de05:28
burepe05:28
burepeGermany05:28
robotgeekicemanx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot05:28
sudeepburepe: the windows version that i tried gave me an error saying that my proc was < 686, and vmware doesnot support this. I have AMD-k605:28
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sudeepburepe: will using the linux version help?05:28
ubuntui just cant acess my hard disk from my live cd it seems05:28
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Storm3eck. Someone is on my account :-\05:28
Dasnipa`i dont thing you can access your harddrive on a livecd ubuntu, as it doesnt mount your harddrive05:28
robotgeekubuntu: windows hdd,right?05:28
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burepeexplain again, simply05:29
ubuntuyes05:29
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ubuntucorrecy05:29
andi5Storm3: are you counting days? *wondering*05:29
Dasnipa`you could probably mount your ntfs drive, you wont be able to write to it though05:29
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Storm3ubuntu: Can't you just mount it?05:29
ubuntubut hey ...05:29
Storm3andi5: No. Someone is on my Stormx2 account?05:29
ubuntui need to create a dir in /mnt correct ?05:29
ubuntuwhich is not possible05:29
Dasnipa`no you dont05:29
ubuntuthen how do i >?05:29
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andi5Storm3: did you register that name?05:30
Dasnipa`making a directory in /mnt is just a nice mount point05:30
robotgeekicemanx: looks simple, doesn't it?05:30
ubuntuthen how do i ?05:30
Storm3ubuntu: The LiveCD sets up a temp partition I think, a ramdisk05:30
Dasnipa`you can choose to mount it anywhere05:30
anyiubotu, mkdir /mnt/c05:30
Dasnipa`man mount05:30
ubotuanyi: Syntax error in line 105:30
Storm3andi5: yap05:30
ubuntupemsiision denied05:30
Stormx2wait... hang on05:30
Dasnipa`right cuz its a live cd... do man mount and look at the options05:31
Stormx2XChat was already open05:31
Stormx2>.>05:31
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anyiubotu, cannt mkdir ?05:31
ubotuanyi: I don't know, could you explain it?05:31
Stormx2I synced my SPV e200 :D05:31
BockBilbohello05:31
Dasnipa`you could do mount /dev/hda1 /home/<username> for all it matters thats just not a particularly wise mount point05:31
ubuntuno i acnt05:31
BockBilbowhats the best way to resize and ext3 partition?05:31
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ubuntubtw > what is the default root passwrod?05:32
Dasnipa`but you need to flag it read only and ntfs05:32
robotgeekairmikey: did you put the menu denu generated in ~/.config/openbox/menu.xml, and told openbox to use it by putting it in ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml05:32
Dasnipa`heck the man mount05:32
Dasnipa`hence*05:32
DrBairubuntu: is none... everything goes through sudo05:32
DrBairubuntu:you could set one if you feel the need05:32
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anyiubotu, try to "su -"05:33
ubotuanyi: Are you smoking crack?05:33
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robotgeekanyi: ubotu is a bot05:33
anyi-_-#05:33
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icemanxso can anyone help here? or are we all just asking questions?05:34
icemanxi need to install ubuntu on 150 computers05:34
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icemanxas easily an quickly as possible05:34
jronsorry i have another question about my config... i have the hor/sync range set as well as the color mode and resolution i wana use but my recommended refresh rate is 85hz, where does that get setup in xorg.conf?05:34
Dasnipa`oem install mode?05:35
burepei was trying to install over a network and told it wasn't possible05:35
icemanxwithout putting a cd in each drive an manually installing05:35
bored2kIf I have the Kubuntu 5.10 disc, how do I use Jigdo to fetch only what's left for a Ubuntu 5.10 one?05:35
Neiwhen I run ./autogen.sh, I get05:35
anyiicemanx, make a ghost image?05:35
icemanxor can i make an automated install?05:35
carthikjron, since you have the required settings, use $sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:35
NeiRunning autoconf...05:35
Neiconfigure.in:19: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_ENABLE_SHARED05:35
Neihow to fix?05:35
robotgeekicemanx: if your computers boot from a network, change the bios in all the computers to boot from network, and install from there?05:35
DrBairicemanx: last I checked automated install was on the drawing board but not completed05:35
Dasnipa`ubotu likes goatse05:35
ubotuI haven't a clue, Dasnipa`05:35
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robotgeek!botabuse05:35
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.05:35
icemanxok, how do i install over the network???05:36
Dasnipa`ahh05:36
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icemanxi have all the computers set to boot from network05:36
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burepeicemanx, you can't do it I was told05:36
stephankicemanx: I found this for automated install, not sure if it's fast setting that up: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WithFullyAutomaticInstaller05:36
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robotgeekicemanx: did u not read the link which i sent you? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot05:36
jroncarthik, i don't think that answers my question, i could be wrong though...05:36
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carthikjron, you can use what I suggested to produce a new xorg.conf with the right settings.05:37
jroni just wana set the refresh rate to 85hz05:37
[A] ndy80Very strange thing: I'm using an application (XLite). If I start it from command line, it works fine. If I start it from the shortcut I created on gnome panel, I get this error: Warning: /dev/dsp appears to be a valid audio device, but I cannot open it. How can I fix this problem?05:37
andi5[A] ndy80: kill all running sound servers, start with esnd :)05:37
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DrBairicemanx: have you looked over the wiki?05:37
[A] ndy80what could it be the difference between launching from command line and from gnome panel, to cause this problem?05:37
jroncarthik, i have all the correct settings, i just need to tell it to use that refresh rate ;P05:37
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carthikjron,  what is so difficult to understand or try in what I just said - from experience, the way I suggested is the easiest way05:37
DrBairicemanx: I'm looking now and it seems possible05:38
airmikeythe debian menu showed up under applications on ubuntu...but not on breezy ....05:38
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airmikeyi need that debian menu05:38
deFryskjron, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg run defaults exept for the hor. and .vert. freq settings , make sure you have them available05:38
mc|ambhow do i mount with samba??   smb:// ... ???05:38
icemanxok, thanks a lot :D05:38
carthikmanually editing the file will cause your change to be lost when the xorg package is upgraded, for one, jron, and putting in the wrong values could fry your monitor!!05:38
jronthe dif is i trust my docs over some auto config app...05:38
ompaulicemanx, did you read the link that robotgeek sent you? it contains the answer you need05:38
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rob_pjron:  You can specify sync ranges under the Monitor section of your xorg.conf.  They are assigned using the, "HorizSync" and, "VertRefresh" directives.05:38
icemanxyes, i am reading it now05:38
icemanxthanx05:38
mahangui just compiled a driver05:38
medgnoairmikey, I think the 'menu' or 'menu-xdg' packages are what you want. I'm not sure tho05:38
mahanguis insmod or modprobe better?05:38
icemanxi appreciate the help05:39
bored2kHaving a Kubuntu disc, how do I use Jigdo to make an Ubuntu one?05:39
robotgeekmahangu: modprobe05:39
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jronrob_p, i did that... but it's a huge range and i just want it to be 85hz...05:39
ompaulmc|amb, 5.10?05:39
airmikeymedgno:thx they r already installed05:39
stephankicemanx: I think ubuntu supports kickstart aswell? I can't find alot on it, though..05:39
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medgnoairmikey, maybe try a 'sudo update-menus'05:39
jronright now, the range is 50-140 which i put in my xorg.conf... but i want it to just run at 85hz... so should i just change the 50-140 to 85?05:40
airmikeyok05:40
rob_pjron:  man xorg.conf and you'll see that you can specify ranges or specific freqs.05:40
[A] ndy80andi5: for example: esddsp /opt/xlite/xtensoftphone ?05:40
jronk05:40
mahangurobotgeek, can i modprobe a .ko file? what is the extension i should look for?05:40
deFryskjron, you need the know the specs of your monitor05:40
andi5[A] ndy80: if you have esd running, try that, does it help?05:40
deFryskjron, find them05:40
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jroni have them deFrysk05:40
airmikeymedgno:u da man..right on05:41
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airmikeyyhehhe05:41
Dasnipa`they are usually on the back of monitors arent they?05:41
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deFryskjron, then find horizontal and vertical frequencies05:41
robotgeekmahangu: insmod the .ko file, but after you know it works, move it to /lib/modules/<whatever>. then you can modprobe it05:41
Neiis there a virtual package that makes my system able to compile software?05:41
[A] ndy80andi5: bash: esddsp: command not found05:41
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DrBairicemanx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LocalNet <-- This seems promising05:41
Dasnipa`Nei, ? g++?05:41
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jrondeFrysk, I have them... but i just wana use 85hz which is in the range of what my monitor can do and is the recommended refresh rate for my res....05:41
NeiDasnipa`, that doesn't install ld (just for example)05:41
robotgeekNei: build-essential05:41
andi5[A] ndy80: maybe apt-get install esound-clients?05:42
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andi5[A] ndy80: need to try that too :)05:42
ubuntududehow can I manually download kernel-image as .deb?05:42
deFryskjron, with the correct hor and vert frequenties you might be able to do so05:42
jronso, to do that couldn't i just change VertRefresh     50-140 to VertRefresh 8505:42
jron?05:42
deFryskno05:42
icemanxthanx so much05:42
deFryskjron, what type monitor ?05:42
icemanxgood luck everyone05:43
carthikjron, System->Preferences->Screen Resolution05:43
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jron19 inch sony trinitron, p90005:43
carthikjron, if you are lucky, 85 might already be there as an option05:43
jroncompaq branded...05:43
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[A] ndy80andi5: I'm installing esound-clients05:43
mahangurobotgeek, insmod: error inserting 'ipw2200.ko': -1 File exists05:43
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robotgeekubuntudude: why would u do that?05:43
jroncarthik, it isn't which is why i'm editing my config, thanks though.05:44
robotgeekmahangu: sudo rmmod ipw220005:44
deFryskjron, it sounds to me the frequenties are correct from what I read from your info betten not change them05:44
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robotgeeki don't think debconf replaces the file if changes have been made05:44
robotgeeki *know* :)05:44
ubuntududerobotgeek: I'm fixing a broken debian isntalation05:44
Neirobotgeek, mhm. this thing still doesn't work05:44
jroni know they are correct... but my manual also says it is best to run it at 85hz... it can do up to 140... but 85 is best...05:44
NeiI have a compiler and linker yet ./autogen.sh says C compiler cannot create executables05:45
[A] ndy80andi5: it works!!! thanks :)05:45
jronso i was wondering if i could just put VertRefresh 85 instead of VertRefresh 50-14005:45
deFryskjron, try system>prefs>screenresolution05:45
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deFryskjron, what you suggest is wrong05:45
rob_pjron:  Yes.  You can specify VertRefresh 85 and it should conform to the proper syntax.  No guarantees it will work though.05:46
deFryskdont do that05:46
robotgeekNei: 'gcc -v' output05:46
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carthikjron, i have had the same problems on every one of my pcs... here's what i find useful : http://vale.homelinux.net/wordpress/?p=3205:46
deFryskjron, and if 85 hz is not possible, ....too bad05:46
Neirobotgeek, gcc version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)05:46
rob_pjron:  However, I'd recommend that you put a range in.05:46
carthikjron, perhaps, after editing the xorg.conf file, you forgot to restart xserver?05:46
jronyeah i have a range... but is it going to pick the best refresh rate for me? ;P05:47
jronaka 85hz.05:47
deFryskjron, nice monitor btw :)05:47
robotgeekNei: weird, can you pastebin the eroor?05:47
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deFryskjron, try system>prefs>screenresolution05:47
deFryskjron, in your panel05:47
rob_pjron:  Just give it a try... if it doesn't work, change it back.  Easy!05:47
carthikjron, the way it works is - you set the range in xorg.conf and restart x, and after this the dropdown will hae multiple choices...05:47
jronah, i follow you now deFrysk , didn't know that little app let you set the refresh rate ;P05:48
jronthanks guys, all should be good now :P05:48
deFryskjron, enjoy your sony ;p05:48
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carthikjron, :O I suggested taht a long time ago!!!05:48
deFryskjron, carthik did indeed :D05:49
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jronhehe yeah sorry carthik i thought you were just telling me to not set anything in my xorg.conf and just use that app...05:49
jronwhich wouldn't work... i stilll needed my correct config / ranges in there...05:49
[A] ndy80andi5: I tried to use esddsp with skype too. Now I cannot ear any sound!05:49
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jronbut i understand what you were trying to say now :P05:49
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queuetueHas anyone installed openafs?  I'd really appreciate a working howto or just a set of instructions...05:50
carthik <sermon> there are different ways of doing things, but it pays to do things the "right" way </sermon> :)05:50
andi5[A] ndy80: i have never ever used skype (closed source, is not it?)05:50
robotgeekcarthik: that post on ubuntu wordpress by u?05:50
carthikrobotgeek, which post?05:50
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[A] ndy80andi5: yes it's closed source05:50
robotgeekcarthik: the cpu one?05:50
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robotgeekcarthik: and hence, maybe the related question?05:51
carthikrobotgeek, yes, something wrong in it?05:51
Neirobotgeek, <05:51
Neirobotgeek, http://rafb.net/paste/results/5iVmKI32.html05:51
robotgeekcarthik: good work there :)05:51
robotgeekcarthik: interesting to read.05:51
mc|ambompaul: yes, 5.10?05:51
andi5[A] ndy80: so skype plays, but the other apps not?05:51
carthikrobotgeek, shukriya!05:51
robotgeekNei: googling for it, uno momento05:52
imc_robotgeek, thanks. network manager is working now. How can I have it auto start?05:52
Neirobotgeek, you're the single person helping me here the whole time, thanks05:53
carthikimc_, nm-applet?05:53
dan2005hello, I delete my file using konqueror but the disk space is not free?05:53
robotgeekimc_: 'cd /etc/init.d/ && sudo update-rc.d Network-Manager defaults'05:53
imc_Thanks so much robotgeek!@05:53
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medgnodan2005, it probably just moved it to the trash05:53
robotgeekimc_: and add nm-applet to your gnome-session. System -> Preferences -> Sessions05:53
carthikrobotgeek, network-manager same as nm-applet?05:53
robotgeekcarthik: yup, but Network_manager is the backend, the applet is the frontend05:54
medgnodan2005, in konqueror, go to trash:/  and see if the files are still there05:54
[A] ndy80andi5: no... Xlite works with esddsp, but skype not.05:54
dan2005I think I was move to trash where can i find trash folder05:54
carthikrobotgeek, i find adding nm-applet to gnome-session defaults is all is required... the update-rc.d was not required for me05:54
imc_Thanks again!05:54
robotgeekcarthik: ah, okay..i compiled it from cvs :)05:54
dan2005medgno: ill try that05:54
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robotgeekNei: try export CC=gcc05:55
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Stormx2hi05:55
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fatehazeOk, here's one for you guys05:55
robotgeekNei: or sudo apt-get install --reinstall build-essential05:56
ruiwenhi guys, does breezy have write capabilities to ntfs partition?05:56
fatehazeInstallation went fine until the stage where it installs additional packages, right before setting the time zone settings05:56
Neirobotgeek, btw, this whole stuff works nicely on debian. mabye Im missing some package? this is so confusing05:56
medgnoruiwen, not really05:56
Neiexport CC=gcc didnt help05:56
robotgeekNei: ur the first guy i've seen having this issue05:56
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Stormx2fatehaze: Then what?05:56
fatehazeIt gives me an error at about 75%, saying either I have no disk space or the installation cd can't be read05:56
Stormx2Nei: What is the problem?05:56
fatehazeI tried that step twice and got the same thing, so I skipped it and continued with the rest of the installation, which went fine05:57
ruiwenmedgno: so best option is to have a fat data partition?05:57
Stormx2fatehaze: Do you have diskspace/parition space?05:57
robotgeekfatehaze: go to expert install, and select verify cd05:57
medgnoruiwen, if you want to share with any other OS, yeah05:57
NeiStormx2, I can't compile on my ubuntu05:57
fatehazeIt's a fresh format of a 20gb drive05:57
robotgeekfatehaze: ah, okay..go on with your story :)05:57
Stormx2Nei: Do you have the right packages?05:57
NeiStormx2, it says my compiler can't create executables, see http://rafb.net/paste/results/5iVmKI32.html05:57
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robotgeekNei: even after, sudo apt-get install --reinstall build-essential05:58
fatehazeNow when I boot it starts loading normally, then I get an "Installing packages" screen05:58
dan2005medgno: nothing happens when i try " trash:/ " in konqueror05:58
NeiStormx2, I cant find an explanation what the 'right packages' are05:58
fatehazeFrozen at 0%05:58
deFryskfatehaze, sounds like a bad cd to me05:58
medgnodan2005, weird05:58
Neirobotgeek, I just used L on build-essentials in aptitude, that should be equivalent right05:58
medgnoI'm not sure I can help then05:58
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robotgeekdan2005: try trash:/// ?05:58
fatehazeMost likely05:58
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fatehazeI can't boot from the cd though05:58
deFryskfatehaze, try burning it again at a slower speed and make sure you have a correct md5sum05:59
robotgeekNei: what do u mean L?05:59
dan2005ok05:59
Stormx2Nei: Reinstall gcc and cc, try installing the recommended and suggested packages too. Synaptic ;-)05:59
Neirobotgeek, 'L' means reinstall, aptitude command05:59
fatehazeI burned it on a cd-rw at 4x, does that make a difference?05:59
NeiStormx2, it shouldn't matter whether I use synaptic or aptitude, right06:00
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deFryskfatehaze, sounds ok to me, did you do an md5sumcheck ?06:00
Stormx2Nei: Not at all, but for this kind of thing synaptic will tell you recommended and suggested packages06:00
dan2005trash:/// dont work to06:00
sambagirlhi i was going to use videolan for video streaming my shows and i need to know which version i should download?06:00
Stormx2fatehaze: Sometimes it does06:00
fatehazeHow can one do that on an xp machine?06:00
Stormx2fatehaze: use expert mode to verify the disk06:00
fatehazeCheck the checksum, that is06:00
deFryskfatehaze, google for md5sum06:00
Stormx2fatehaze: There are programs to do it06:00
fatehazek06:00
FarrisGI'm having a bitch of a time building a module for a BCM5704 ethernet controller for the amd64 ubuntu arch. Can anyone help?06:00
fatehazeHow about with expert mode?06:00
robotgeekNei: i don't see the the option06:00
deFryskget md5sum.exe (or something)06:00
Stormx2fatehaze: Look up MD5 Checksum or something like that06:00
Stormx2fatehaze: Boot into the install cd, type expert, press enter06:01
fatehazeAnything I do at the initial boot menu (l for hd or c for cd) ends up at a frozen screen06:01
fatehazek, will do06:01
dan2005anyone help, where or what folder can I find deleted files(trash)06:01
dan2005?06:01
robotgeekfatehaze: http://www.nullriver.com/downloads/Install-winMd5Sum.exe06:01
Stormx2dan2005: Check the trash can in the corner06:01
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fatehazePhat06:01
deFryskdan2005, doublklick the trashcan06:01
Neirobotgeek, gui ;)06:01
fatehazeThanks for the help guys, I'll probably be back in a bit :)06:01
osvaldohi06:01
Stormx2dan2005: Actual trash is stored in a hidden file in each folder you deleted from06:01
osvaldoany body can help me?06:01
dan2005I dont have that, i uses icewm06:02
robotgeekNei: aptitude gui, ahh..never used that :)06:02
osvaldoto use the ubuntu os06:02
Stormx2dan2005: The file will be something like ".Trash-username"06:02
dan2005custom istall06:02
osvaldoi allready install it06:02
Stormx2dan2005: You need to view hidden files (hidden files start with .)06:02
Rockett18dan cd ~/.Trash06:02
osvaldobut i dont know many things06:02
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osvaldolike recognize the hdd in mi pc06:03
Neirobotgeek, it's like text mode synaptic just better06:03
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osvaldoor download apps to the sistem06:03
robotgeekNei: apt-cache and apt-get are my friends. i use aptitude command sometimes :)06:03
osvaldolike real player06:03
dan2005tried cd ~/.Trash >> theres no sush file msg...06:03
robotgeek!tell osvaldo about mp306:04
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robotgeekosvaldo: read that link which ubotu sent you06:04
osvaldoyeh like play mp3s06:04
deFryskcd .Trash without /06:04
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osvaldowhen i download the app06:05
osvaldoits bin06:05
osvaldono exe06:05
osvaldoand i cant openit06:05
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dan2005It still didnt work for me06:05
thoreauputicosvaldo: you don't open it, you run it06:05
osvaldohow?06:05
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Neinow fix my problem :((06:06
dan2005deFrysk:cd .Trash without /   ->still dont work for me06:06
Neiyou don't happen to have any idea how to debug this do you06:06
linuxboyNei: whats your problem?06:06
fgrhello, im using breezy, just extended my log volume with lvextend, but df doesn't report the correct size of the extended volume06:06
tommi^Hi. What is gam_server process and why does it take lot of my cpu time?06:06
germanhi, i'm new with linux06:06
thoreauputicosvaldo:  chmod +x filename - then do sudo ./realplayerfoo   (whatever it's called)06:06
deFryskdan2005, cd /home/yourusername/Trash06:06
Neilinuxboy, I can't compile software, it claims my c compiler cant create executables,. see http://rafb.net/paste/results/5iVmKI32.html06:07
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Stormx2dan2005: Use ls to get directory listings06:07
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jrongot my res working... now, pet peve #2... is it possible to keep the location bar open at all times in the file manager?06:07
deFryskdan2005, install mc its a console-filemanager06:07
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linuxboyNei: you got buildutils installed?06:08
deFryskdan2005, it shows also hidden files, might help06:08
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Stormx2deFrysk: ls doesn't?06:08
medgnojron: go to gconf-editor  and then apps->nautilus->preferences, and set always_use_location_entry06:08
Neilinuxboy, I've got build-essentials installes06:08
deFryskStormx2, in his case I think he needs to "see" something06:08
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jronthanks so much medgno06:09
Stormx2dan2005: Use "ls -a" to get directory listings including hidden files06:09
linuxboyNei: try... getting some .c file and compiling it06:09
Stormx2then cd to the directory06:09
osvaldoalguien habla esapol06:09
osvaldo???06:09
linuxboyNei: (with gcc)06:09
Stormx2!es06:09
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:09
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linuxboyNei: just a shot in the dark...06:09
dan2005I use konqueror in icewm, my problem is i run out of disk space, so i delete file using konqueror, file was deleted but disk space is still the same.06:10
Neilinuxboy, well it says it can't find ld06:10
Rawplayerre06:10
linuxboyNei: install ldconfig..06:10
dan2005and could not file the trash folder06:10
osvaldoi have installed ubuntu and i want to use it in the berst way06:10
linuxboy?06:10
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dan2005could not find06:10
Stormx2osvaldo: What do you mean/06:10
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osvaldofor example i cant recognize the hdds in mi sistem06:10
osvaldothe slave06:11
dan2005locate trash06:11
osvaldodoesnt apear in the sistem06:11
seehey, i had to reinstall windows on a dualboot machine so grub has been overwritten, how do i reinstall it in the mbr? boot with a livecd and run"grub" or such (like one did for lilo)06:11
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osvaldo#ubuntu-es06:12
Neilinuxboy, I have /sbin/ldconfig06:12
DrBairsee: grub-install /dev/hda (or whatever drive it is)06:12
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linuxboyNei: I got no more ideas06:12
seedrbair thnx06:13
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Neithanks for trying to help06:13
seewill it detect the different os:s or is there some grub.conf in etc for that?06:13
osvaldothnx06:14
medgnosee: you'll need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to tell it to look for the other oses06:14
germanwho can tell me how to kwon my public IP using shell06:14
seemed ok thanks06:14
ubuntuDual-boot?06:14
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DrBairsee: but that file shouldn't have been clobbered by windows06:14
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n0odl3configure: error: bbrb 0.2 needs GTK >= 1.2.006:14
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n0odl3does anyone know where i can get a newer version of GTK?06:14
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ubuntuTry the yum repositories or the Gtk+ site06:15
DrBairn0odl3: thats an older version... GTK 1 and 2 are not compatible06:15
n0odl3oh06:15
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n0odl3so does that mean i cant make bbrb .2 then?06:15
DrBairn0odl3: try grabbed GTK 1.x from synaptic06:15
thoreauputicn0odl3: you need gtk-dev or similar - search for that06:15
DrBairn0odl3: you can have gtk 1 and 2 on the same system at the same time06:16
thoreauputicprobably gtk1.2-dev or something06:16
n0odl3DrBair: will it affect my computer in anyway (as in negatively)06:16
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DrBairand yes, you'll need the dev version as mentioned06:16
johnstonbonsoir a tous :)06:16
DrBairn0odl3: nope, GTK 1 and 2 will run side by side peacefully06:17
robotgeekNei: i am really perplexed abt ur error06:18
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n0odl3i cant seem to find GTK 1.x in synaptic06:19
zauberI was asked to do some LAMP-work on a new server for a client. Turns out it's ubuntu, which I haven't worked with before. I've only got so far as wanting to setup a database, but cant get my local client to connect to the servers mysql thread. The firewall also seems down or missing - is something going on here that's radically different from what I'm used to?06:20
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thoreauputicpeter@prospero:~ $ apt-cache search libgtk | grep dev06:21
thoreauputiclibgtk1.2-dev - Development files for the GIMP Toolkit06:21
thoreauputicn0odl3: ^^^06:21
robotgeekzauber: you not able to connect to mysql-server? on ubuntu06:21
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boci^hi06:22
boci^ubuntu not have dspam package?06:22
robotgeekNei: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure build-essential06:22
abarbaccia_hey all - when i use ssh to open a program that requires X - it reports back "Cannot open display"  how do i fix this?06:23
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zauberrobotgeek: correct. Im using the mysql-administration gui from mysql ab, running it on my local computer,  pointing it to the ip of the server & default port. I set user to root, but no password, as no one has touched the dbase yet.06:23
robotgeekabarbaccia_: ssh -X06:23
thoreauputicabarbaccia_: use ssh -X06:23
thoreauputicabarbaccia_: note capital X06:23
jronany reason ubuntu wouldn't have detected my SB live? it's prob the most common soundcard out there.... =(06:23
zauberrobotgeek: but no connection06:23
robotgeekzauber: try installing mysql-server-4.106:23
zauberok.06:24
medgnojron: are you on a dell computer?06:24
zauberwith apt-get?06:24
jronno, medgno, just a home made one...06:24
robotgeekzauber: yeah, there's some weird bug in mysql-server package06:24
zauberokelidokeli06:24
zauberthx06:24
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jroni can only think of one reason it wouldn't have detected it... it found the sound controler on my tv tuner card and then just stopped looking for audio devices...06:24
jronis there anyway to make it rescan? :P06:25
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abarbaccia_X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.06:25
abarbaccia_  robotgeek thoreauputic06:25
medgnojron, okay. does a sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1 do anything?06:25
robotgeekzauber: you also have to do a sudo man_db_install, i guess before it starts to work06:25
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mahanguanybody got festival to work with kismet?06:25
zauberrobotgeek: sudo apt-get install mysql-server06:25
zauberReading package lists... Done06:25
thoreauputicabarbaccia_: well that's a config issue06:25
zauberBuilding dependency tree... Done06:25
zaubermysql-server is already the newest version.06:25
zauber0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.06:25
zauberxsys@xsys:/etc/mysql$ mysqld -V06:25
zaubermysqld  Ver 4.0.24_Debian-10ubuntu2-log for pc-linux-gnu on i486 (Source distribution)06:25
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robotgeekzauber: don't paste in here.06:25
zauberrobotgeek: sorry06:25
thoreauputiczauber: *never* do that again06:25
zauberwill not06:26
robotgeekzauber: get mysql-server4.106:26
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zauberrobotgeek: ah, I see06:26
jronmedgno, that gives me no output... just a new line...06:26
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medgnojron, that means it probably just loaded the drivers for your soundcard06:26
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zauberrobotgeek: it says: E: Couldn't find package mysql-server4.106:27
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ruiwenquestion again: does ubuntu read/write mac harddrives?06:27
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Neirobotgeek, no go06:27
zauberrobotgeek: even after apt-get update06:27
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jronSound Prefs give me no options for a "Default Sound Card," medgno06:28
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Loboquestion: does the ubuntu install allow you to setup LVM ?06:29
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DaveRagAnyone here did the ISPConfig Perfect Setup I'm having trouble with receiving mail06:29
robotgeekzauber: mysql-server-4.106:29
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brian_my pc does not see my zen mp3 player any help out there06:30
jronshouldn't lspci -v list my soundcard?06:30
jroneven if it isn't working?06:30
Lobojron: yes06:30
jronweird, it isn't in there.... i wonder if it's dead...06:30
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zauberrobotgeek: now it says it has no installation candidate for the package, its missing, or available from another source or something. Edit source.list?06:31
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robotgeekzauber: universe06:31
zauberrobotgeek: url?06:31
robotgeekzauber: enable the universe repository06:32
zaubernevermind -google found it06:32
thoreauputic!tell zauber about sources06:32
robotgeek!tell zauber about repos06:32
ruiwensorry, does ubuntu support read/write to mac harddrives? does anyone know?06:32
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zandoruiwen, do you have ubuntu ppc?06:34
ruiwenzando: i do, but i don't have a mac to try it on06:34
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ruiwenzando: thinking of giving it to mac users in school, but not sure if it can write to their drives06:34
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zandoruiwen, you can06:35
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zandoruiwen, /dev/hda10      /media/mac      hfsplus  rw,user,noauto  0       006:35
ruiwenzando, that's on your machine? nice =) thanks06:35
linxxhello, i install minimal ubuntu and I deciding to which application to use in accessing network folder06:36
zandoruiwen, yes, it's on my machine06:36
linxxneed your help, which is a lighter alternative to access network folder, konqueror, nautilus or install samba and linneighborhood06:36
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ruiwenoh yes another qn, while running the ubuntu live cd, will it automount ntfs/fat partitions?06:37
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thoreauputicruiwen: I don't think so - it didn't for me anyway06:38
Neimy compiler suddenly finds ld when I export PATH06:38
thoreauputicruiwen: I remember knoppix does that though06:38
zandoruiwen, you have to try ;)06:38
zauberok got mysql updated - thanks everyone! - although I still don't seem able to connect from the outside.... And where is the firewall/iptables?06:38
Neihow do I fix this properly?06:38
ruiwenthoreauputio: but was the entry added to /etc/fstab?06:38
thoreauputicruiwen: not sure to be honest06:39
thoreauputicruiwen: why not try it and see?06:39
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thoreauputiconly tkes a few minutes...06:40
n0odl3thoreauputic: what does "n0odl3^^^" mean?06:40
ruiwenthoreauputio: yeah knoppix does.. was wondering if ubuntu did the same =)06:40
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ruiwenthoreauputic, zando: will try =)06:40
thoreauputicn0odl3: I was pointing you to the libgtk you needed  hence ^^^^06:41
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ahoorahi every one06:41
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thoreauputicn0odl3: I also showed you how I found it (the command)06:41
ahooracan someone helo me with g++06:41
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ahoorai dontknow how to install it on ubuntu :(06:41
robotgeekahoora: sudo apt-get install build-essential06:41
BooZeewhere can I get some nice fonts?06:42
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ahoorarobotgeek thanks06:42
dylan_is there an alternative to the w32codecs package?06:42
demankhalo06:42
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thoreauputicn0odl3: peter@prospero:~ $ apt-cache search libgtk | grep dev06:43
n0odl3thoreauputic: do then i just type this file name is synaptic? or do i type sudo apt-get filename?06:43
thoreauputicthoreauputic libgtk1.2-dev - Development files for the GIMP Toolkit06:43
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thoreauputicn0odl3: either search for it in synaptic or do  sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2-dev06:43
n0odl3k thnx06:44
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dylan_does anybody know an alternative to the w32codecs?06:45
dylan_they dont appear in synaptic06:45
Neirobotgeek, vv06:45
Neiailin@iz51fyiyj [2] % gcc test.c                                    ~ {=100,00%}06:45
Neicollect2: ld kann nicht gefunden werden06:45
Neizsh: exit 1     gcc test.c06:45
Neiailin@iz51fyiyj [3] % echo =ld                                      ~ {=100,00%}06:45
Nei/usr/bin/ld06:45
Neiailin@iz51fyiyj [4] % export PATH                                   ~ {=100,00%}06:45
Neiailin@iz51fyiyj [5] % gcc test.c                                    ~ {=100,00%}06:45
thoreauputic!w32codecs06:45
ubotufrom memory, w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).06:45
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Cryptidi want to convert a mp3 file of128kpbs bitrate to a .ogg file of 64kbps how do i do this???06:45
thoreauputicNei: sorry but pasting like that is not acceptable06:46
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dylan_thoreauputic, thansk06:46
RopechoborraHu06:46
RopechoborraHi06:46
ahoorahey does anyone know how can i reg my nick?06:46
thoreauputicNei: I'll remove the gag - don't do it again06:46
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frogzoo /msg nickserv help register06:47
mahanguhow can i see if festival works06:47
Neithoreauputic, can you help me?06:47
n0odl3brb06:47
zenroxhow do you fis a seg fault06:48
Cryptidthoreauputic, i want to convert a mp3 file of128kpbs bitrate to a .ogg file of 64kbps how do i do this???06:48
zenroxfis=fix06:48
fanopnaiczenrox: write correct code06:48
frogzoozenrox strace for starters06:48
zenroxnot my code06:48
thoreauputicCryptid: heh - I have no idea sorry06:48
zenroxand it just now started to break06:48
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zenroxfrogzoo,  that just spit out tones of non human readable code06:49
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frogzoozenrox, strace just spits out text - your term is garbled by something else06:50
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zenroxfrogzoo,  ya but none of it helps06:50
mahangufrogzoo, that HOWTO works!06:50
zauberAgain: I have not worked with ubuntu before, so please bear with me: Apparently this fresh ubuntu server of mine will only take connections through ssh or apache. trying to telnet to port 3306 for instance does nothing. So it seems a firewall is locking me out. But I can't figure out how to stop/start the firewall. no iptables script in /etc/init.d/? How do firewalls work on ubuntu?06:51
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frogzoomahangu, glad to hear you had good luck with it06:51
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alexiconhiya06:51
mahangufrogzoo, i just did insmod ipw2200.ko06:51
mahanguvoila06:51
mahangu:)06:51
alexiconcan anyone tell me which has more active development, nicotine or pysoulseek?06:51
frogzoozenrox, stick the strace in a postbin & post the link06:51
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mahangu(after compiling the drivers)06:51
piccamahangu, what version of ubuntu are you using06:52
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mahangupicca, hoary06:52
jronso... using Synaptic, I can't really find half of the packages i wana install... tvtime, glftpd, pftp etc.... but all are listed on packages.ubuntu.com.... what am i doing wrong here? :P06:52
alexiconanyone anyone?? nicotine v. pysoulseek?06:53
piccai just installed breezy and got the intel 2200 wireless to work after much hunting around06:53
robotgeek!tell jron about repos06:53
piccamy problem was getting wpa to work06:53
robotgeekzauber: more mysql issues?06:53
jronthanks :P06:53
thoreauputic!tell jron about sources06:54
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zauberrobotgeek: not sure its mysql any more... just cant figure out how to make sure the server allows connections on port 330606:54
zauberwhich it does not at the time it seems.06:54
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robotgeekzauber: check if mysqld is running. otherwise, 3306 will be denied anyways06:54
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mahanguwierd06:55
mahangumy festival crashes06:55
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gooohey everybody, i am new here06:55
mahangu#<CLOSURE (text) (begin "(SayText TEXT)06:55
mahanguTEXT, a string, is rendered as speech." (utt.play (utt.synth (eval (list (quote Utterance) (quote Text) text)))))>06:55
robotgeekmahangu: don't paste in here!06:55
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gooocould anybody help me with configuring Option Globetrotter PCMCIA card??06:56
mahangurobotgeek, sorry again, the copy function keeps being gay06:56
thoreauputic!gay06:56
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binahi ive just installed squirrel mail using the command apt-get isntall squirrelmail.  Anyone got an idea as to how to access it now? its not in my /var/www/ dir so im assuming its like webmin ni need to go localhost:something :)06:56
robotgeekgooo: have u tried searching on the wiki?06:56
thoreauputic!+gay06:56
ubotu[gay]  the dictionary says "Excited with merriment; manifesting sportiveness or delight; inspiring delight; livery; merry."  But some people don't know what it means, I guess  Some highly ignorant folks think it's an insult of some sort.  Who can tell why?06:56
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mahanguwhat could be the problem with my festival?06:56
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zauberrobotgeek: msyqld and mysqld-safe are both on06:56
gooook i try wiki thx06:56
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robotgeekbina: try dpkg -L squirrelmail | less , and see where it put the files. then you might have to either symlink/modify apache2.conf/httpd.conf06:57
binaok thanks robotgeek06:58
robotgeekzauber: hmm, i dunno about the iptables stuff. i heard of a program call ipkungfu or something for managing iptables06:58
trappist:)06:58
trappist<-- ipkungfu author06:58
robotgeektrappist: well, well..maybe u can help zauber06:58
Neirobotgeek, you don't have any idea by chance :(?06:58
binarobotgeek: so add a virtual server that looks in that dir would work?06:58
robotgeekbina: hmm, it might work06:59
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binarobotgeek: well one way to find out i suppose :)06:59
robotgeekbina: i'm a newb to all server stuff!06:59
trappistzauber: netstat -ntlp | grep 330606:59
robotgeekNei: my google's havent resulted in anything new.06:59
zaubertrappist: yes please help! Although I'm still not sure its mysql or the server itself dropping connections06:59
zauberah.. thanks06:59
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Neirobotgeek, do you have any theory why PATH is exported when I log in on the vc but not when I log in to X?07:00
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asdfasdfasdfhey what repositories can i use to get things like electric sheep and conky?07:00
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zaubertrappist: looks ok actually, 0.0.0.0:3306 LISTEN07:00
robotgeekNei: is this a fresh install?07:00
asdfasdfasdfand how do i set up synaptic to use those repositories?07:01
zauberso maybe it is a mysql issue after all07:01
trappistzauber: and what happens when you try to connect? and, how are you trying to connect?07:01
Neirobotgeek, yes I am new to this stuff and just recently installed ubuntu 5.1007:01
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robotgeekNei: server version, right?07:01
ubuntududeMBR is in first 512 byes of /dev/hda or hda1? or is it the same?07:01
trappistzauber: that just says mysql is running and listening on port 3306 on all devices07:01
CaBlGuY-OuTI need an audio CD burner, k3b and serpentine sin't working, any suggestions?07:02
Neirobotgeek, no I installed a standard version07:02
thoreauputicubuntudude: no it's not the same and the first is right07:02
trappistCaBlGuY-OuT: "isn't working"?07:02
CaBlGuY-OuTNop[e, isn't working07:02
gebharraubuntudude: should be hda if that's disk 0x8007:02
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robotgeekNei: okay, try this..sudo aptitude purge gcc && aptitude install gcc07:02
gebharra(or hd0)07:02
trappistCaBlGuY-OuT: I was trying to prompt you to be more informative.07:02
n0odl3thoreauputic: how did you search for that lib file again07:02
ubuntududewhats disk 0x80?07:02
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n0odl3thoreauputic: apparently im missing another library07:03
CaBlGuY-OuTtrappist,  file not supported..07:03
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fbnis it possible to get the window list (same as window selector on gnome panel) with a key combination?07:03
n0odl3thoreauputic: IMlib or something like that07:03
zaubertrappist: three ways: 1) with the gui called MySQL administrator. I enter the ip and no user / password (since locally I can get in with no user and password). That just stalls for a long time then crashes. 2) Telnet <ipadress> 3306, 3) in my local console: mysql -h <ipadress>. 2 and 3 just make me wait as nothing happens at all.07:03
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thoreauputicn0odl3:  apt-cache search libgtk | grep dev07:03
gebharrafirst hard disk07:03
asdfasdfasdfanyone use conky?07:03
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robotgeekasdfasdfasdf: yes, get it from http://conky.sf.net07:04
trappistzauber: what ip are you using? 127.0.0.1?07:04
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asdfasdfasdfrobotgeek, so there are no alternate repositories?07:04
robotgeekasdfasdfasdf: no need, it's there in the repos07:04
Stormx2Hi. I have a new ipaq driver, and to run it i have to ummod the current one and add this one. Is there a way this can be done automaticly? Do I need tor recomile the kernal or something?07:04
asdfasdfasdfrobotgeek, it's not showing up in my synaptic07:04
robotgeekasdfasdfasdf: u need to enable universe repositories07:04
robotgeek!tell asdfasdfasdf about repos07:04
n0odl3asdfasdfasdf: just sudo apt-get conky07:04
n0odl3conky comes with ubuntu07:04
sambagirlanyone using videolan?07:04
Neirobotgeek, same old story. I think the problem is not with gcc but that my environment is broken for some unknown reason07:04
robotgeeksambagirl: vlc, yes?07:05
zauberin my.cnf on the server I have commented out the 'listen 127.0.0.1', and then I'm trying to connect to the server by it's real public ipadress from my local machine07:05
robotgeekNei: maybe a reinstall :(07:05
Nei:((07:05
zaubertrappist: can't tell you the ipadress I'm afraid07:05
robotgeekNei: please do file a bug07:05
sambagirli found there is debian version. but it saying i need to change /etc/apt/sources.list07:05
Neithis is what makes linux no joy07:05
sambagirlwhat can i use for editor? if this was amgia i would use opus.07:05
NeiI bet noone can reproduce it neway07:06
robotgeeksambagirl: vlc is there in the repos07:06
sambagirlwhat for ubuntu?07:06
trappistrobotgeek: I don't recommend having mysql listen on a public ip address, but I can tell you how to let it through your firewall if you insist on doing that07:06
robotgeeksambagirl: nano/gedit/vi07:06
trappistoops07:06
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robotgeektrappist: :)07:06
trappistzauber: I don't recommend having mysql listen on a public ip address, but I can tell you how to let it through your firewall if you insist on doing that07:06
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Stormx2Hi, anyone?07:06
sambagirlwhen you say repos i just say get apt vlc ?07:06
n0odl3thoreauputic: how do you use that command? im trying to search for the file i have an error on (ImLib)07:06
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sambagirlthanks robotgeek07:06
trappistzauber: also if you connect via the public ip it probably won't count as a local connection07:06
CaBlGuY-OuTNei, the only way someone would be able to "break into" yur box is if they had the root pass, and since it's disabled or "closed off" by defualt, theres not alot to worry about07:06
robotgeeksambagirl: yes, u need to have universe repository enabled07:06
robotgeek!tell sambagirl about repos07:06
sambagirlhaha07:06
NeiCaBlGuY-OuT, ?07:06
sambagirlok07:07
sambagirlhow can  i be sure i have that?07:07
zaubertrappist:  well, I don't intend to keep it that way - I want to do it temporarily to set up some databases. Then I intend to secure it again.07:07
thoreauputicn0odl3: :/  just type    apt-cache search imlib | grep dev07:07
CaBlGuY-OuT!tell Nei  about root pass07:07
CaBlGuY-OuT!tell Nei  about root07:07
mahanguthoreauputic, festival is giving me errors, any suggestions07:07
zaubertrappist: so please tell me how. knowledge never hurt any one... or did it?07:07
zauber:)07:07
war-totemcan someone tell me how to unrar a bunch of files?07:07
mahanguim trying to get it to work with kismet07:07
binarobotgeek: success, it worked :)07:07
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war-totemim not having any luck07:07
war-totemand i believe i have unrar free and non free07:07
robotgeekbina: nice!07:07
NeiCaBlGuY-OuT, thanks for the info but it doesn't really relate to my problem07:07
trappistzauber: I dunno why you don't just have it listen locally and do your stuff locally, but if you insist - iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 3306 -j ACCEPT07:07
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thoreauputicn0odl3: I suggest you  install apthowto and run it - it tells you how to do this stuff07:08
Hoxzer>:) just hide my parents liquors07:08
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CaBlGuY-OuTNei,  NP, Im just sayin, no need to worry about security issues with Linux, MOST of the time07:08
trappistzauber: if that doesn't do it, use -I instead of -A07:08
demankhalo07:08
thoreauputicn0odl3: sorry apt-howto I think is the name07:08
WeidlHallo07:08
NeiCaBlGuY-OuT, I never worried about security .07:08
robotgeekNei has bigger problems at hand :(07:09
CaBlGuY-OuTNei,  then why u worried about givin trappist  yur IP??07:09
Neidid I?07:09
robotgeekCaBlGuY-OuT: u misread the conversation, that was zauber07:09
WeidlOK07:09
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jbroomesecurity through obscurity is my favorite07:09
CaBlGuY-OuTrobotgeek,  Oh my bad..  :p07:09
robotgeekWeidl: can we help you?07:09
sambagirlyou said vi/edit/gedit/07:09
Weidlinteressant07:09
sambagirl?07:09
Weidlich glaube nicht07:10
war-totemanyone know about unraring files on linux?07:10
robotgeeksambagirl: nano or gedit07:10
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sambagirlokie dokie thank ou07:10
gebharrawar-totem: yep07:10
n0odl3thoreauputic: bbrb needs ImLib >= 1.9.807:10
sambagirlyou07:10
_jasonwar-totem:  install unrar07:10
robotgeekwar-totem: unrar x file.rar07:10
Weidlciao07:10
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n0odl3i did the grep but im not sure which one im suppose to install07:10
trappistCaBlGuY-OuT: also the way ubuntu is set up doesn't mean there's "not a lot to worry about" security wise, and having your root password is not the only way an attacker can compromise your box.07:10
war-totemrobotgeek: thanks man, dont know how i forgot that ..07:10
zaubertrappist: thanks, I could never get htose iptables figured out myself. the reason is... well, to be honest - although I'm ok with setting up databases in mysql through the console, I can never get the user-system figured out, so i'd like to use mysql administrator to do it since it can take care of different versions and passwords and all that. but I have to do it over ip-connection, cause I can't get physical access to the server. There you have the (07:10
CaBlGuY-OuTtrappist,  I was sayin Linux in general..07:11
robotgeekzauber: hmm, ssh -X :)07:11
thoreauputicn0odl3: well read the output and see which one is relevant07:11
CaBlGuY-OuTtrappist,  I know Linux can still be comrimised, but on a whole, it more secure than winblowz..07:11
drummerHaving MAJOR problems re-installing VMWare on a re-install of Hoary.  Problems related to gcc.  Can someone help?07:11
trappistCaBlGuY-OuT: it's more securable than windows, but security is up to the admin, not the os.07:11
robotgeekdrummer: what problems?07:11
sambagirlit say edit /etc/apt/sources.list does this look like right file? it is empty!07:12
Neirobotgeek, just fyi I did it quick and dirty and added an "export PATH=.." to my shell's rc07:12
gooocould anybody help me with configuring Option Globetrotter PCMCIA card??07:12
thoreauputicn0odl3: to see more info  type for instance   apt-cache show  libimlib2-dev07:12
NeiI don't believe this is the proper solution though07:12
WhiteRabbitCaBlGuY-OuT, what common attack method would you use to detour the security of a linux box?07:12
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sambagirlanyone doing vlc streaming so i can see how it works?07:12
robotgeekNei: hmm, as long as you don't have to reinstall :)07:13
CaBlGuY-OuTWhiteRabbit,  ummmmmm  brute force probably ..07:13
drummerrobotgeek: I keep getting erorr messages about a gcc mismatch - vmware-config keeps aborting07:13
trappisttehehe.07:13
WhiteRabbitCaBlGuY-OuT, brute force what?07:13
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mahangurobotgeek, any idea what that error message meant?07:13
CaBlGuY-OuTWhiteRabbit,  never really done one so I really don't know..07:13
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dennis__Hi all07:13
CaBlGuY-OuTWhiteRabbit,  the root pass07:13
robotgeekmahangu: which one?07:13
Neirobotgeek, that might be true but I hate it when I do something and don't know why this works and do know that this is not the proper way to fix it :(07:13
dennis__I was wondering, how does one install tomcat? I've already used java-package to install java07:13
trappistdrummer: export CC=gcc-3.407:13
CaBlGuY-OuTWhiteRabbit,  or root account07:13
trappistdrummer: if you have gcc-3.4 installed07:13
zauberrobotgeek: sorry, no X installed on the server07:13
mahangurobotgeek, oh shit, i did killall esd, and it's spewing me everything :)07:14
drummertrappist: I tried that - no joy.07:14
sambagirlrobogeek videolan is wonderful. it's the best i ever see other than demoscene.tv streaming07:14
mahangurobotgeek, everything it had in store07:14
WhiteRabbitCaBlGuY-OuT, what if they have root login turned off & extra secure options to log in even as a user with shh keys using 256bit triple-des07:14
mahangubrb07:14
mahangugotta reboot07:14
trappistdrummer: read the rest of the error.  it says your kernel was compiled with one version of gcc and your compiler is this version.  what are the details?07:14
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CaBlGuY-OuTanyway, the reason I was in this channel was to find out if there was another CD burner I could install as the ones on my dektop aren't working07:14
drummertrappist: and yes gcc-3.4 is installed in /usr/bin07:14
dennis__debian has it on packages.debian.org, but ubuntu doesn't sem to have it07:14
asdfasdfasdfrobotgeek, how do i enable Xft so that conky works normally07:14
NeiStormx2, why did you spam me with /ctcp clientinfo finger ping userinfo ?07:14
robotgeekWhiteRabbit,CaBlGuY-OuT : #ubuntu-offtopic07:14
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dennis__(tomcat, that is)07:15
drummertrappist: can copy a portion of the error message if you want07:15
trappistdrummer: if it's a one-liner, feel free07:15
robotgeekasdfasdfasdf: i have mine disabled from what i see07:15
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trappistdrummer: else use the pastebin07:15
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smi|e!breezy07:16
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade07:16
CaBlGuY-OuTso, CD burner other than k3b or serpentine, any takers??07:16
robotgeekasdfasdfasdf: so, in all probability..i dunno what you are talking about!07:16
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drummertrappist: it's a little long - Never used the paste bin, how do I?07:16
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robotgeekCaBlGuY-OuT: k3b works wonderfully for me, it doesn't for you? how abt graveman?07:16
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Stormx2Nei: I was testing out commands ^_^07:16
thoreauputicCaBlGuY-OuT: graveman, gnomebaker07:16
robotgeek!tell drummer about pastebin07:16
trappistdrummer: /topic07:16
adjacentwhat package provides mysql headers?07:16
trappistor that07:16
graabeinhello, i've got a couple questions07:16
Neiwhat's wrong with k3b?07:17
CaBlGuY-OuTrobotgeek,  nope, file not supported is what I get..07:17
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axel_is it possible to play quicktime *.mov in totem ?07:17
robotgeekadjacent: what are u trying to compile?07:17
CaBlGuY-OuTon both of them07:17
adjacentrobotgeek: cactid07:17
dennis__!tell dennis__ about you07:17
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graabeinhow do i make several rar-files instead of one large with file-roller?07:17
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thoreauputicaxel_: with w32codecs, yes07:17
dennis__just figuring out its name :)07:17
emgeeI'm trying to install Skype but it complains... :07:17
emgee skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); however:07:17
emgee  Version of libqt3c102-mt on system is 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3.07:17
emgeeCan that be fixed somehow?07:17
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thoreauputicaxel_: but install totem-xine as well07:18
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axel_thoreauputic: ah ok, ill look on the wiki, thx07:18
Dr_Willisgraabein,  use the rar command line perhaps.07:18
axel_thoreauputic: why xine ?07:18
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graabeinallright, good idea, thanks07:18
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thoreauputicaxel_: it just works better :)07:18
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robotgeekadjacent: apt-cache search mysql | grep dev07:18
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trappistpfft.  it's all about mplayer.07:18
Dr_Willisgraabein,  fileroller is just a front end to all the commands I think. Rar support in it is not that well done.07:19
thoreauputicaxel_:  totem-xine looks the same but it handles more codecs etc07:19
niksieanyone know how to isntall tomcat on breezy badger?07:19
axel_thoreauputic: ok, ill do that07:19
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musikhow do i install transcode in ubuntu hoary?? its not in repos........07:19
adjacentrobotgeek: i see. thanks07:19
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shwagso did anyone else have the experience of all the firefox totem plugins totally NOT working?07:19
robotgeekgraabein: unless u install unrar-nonfree07:19
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thoreauputicshwag: they seem to work OK here07:20
graabeini've got rar... looking at the man file now07:20
shwagthoreauputic, reeeaaalllly07:20
thoreauputicshwag: but that' swith totem-xine07:20
shwagthoreauputic, oh..the online guide recommends the other one.07:20
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mc|ambis there something wrong with -->  sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.1.3/carpeta /mnt/win07:21
shwagthoreauputic, I had to manually delete the totem plugins and now the mplayer plugins are working.  It was the first thing in Ubuntu I had to do that actually required me dropping into a command line.07:21
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niksieshould I just download tomcat and compile it manually? does anyone else actually have tomcat in apt-cache search ?07:21
robotgeekniksie: nope, it doesn't show up07:22
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_jasonniksie:  nope07:22
drummertrappist: figured out pastebin - the error info is in 406807:22
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thoreauputicshwag: hmm - well much to my surprise the totem plugins worked out of the box here once I installed totem-xine and w32codecs etc07:22
musikshwag: u could have removed that totem things with all its plugins via synaptic..07:22
trappisttomcat's not free, is it?07:22
trappistdrummer: link?07:22
Tomcat_niksie: Search ubuntuforums.org... there are HowTos and many people who have installed it.07:22
Tomcat_trappist: It is.07:22
niksiethanks07:22
alanhi07:23
musikeast or west, kaffiene is the best:)07:23
axel_thoreauputic: what abour installing w32 codecs on amd64 ??07:23
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trappistTomcat_: as in speech?07:23
drummertrappist: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/406807:23
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Tomcat_trappist: As in beer and in speech.07:23
robotgeekaxel_: i think u need 32 bit chroots and stuff07:23
shwagmusik, well I use totem all the time just fine. It was just the plugins for mozilla that sucked.07:23
thoreauputicaxel_: can't be done without a 32bit chroot I guess07:23
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musikshwag: in totem u cant do slow motion while watching video, kaff can do that easily.....07:24
thoreauputicaxel_: but I haven't used amd6407:24
trappistdrummer: "For proper build you'll have to replace gcc with symbolic link to /usr/bin/gcc-3.3"07:24
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trappistdrummer: translation: ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.3 /usr/bin/gcc07:24
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jronwhy am i getting this msg about 1 in 5 find attempts: find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for ./proc/7396: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.  Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.07:24
robotgeekdrummer: sudo07:24
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trappistdrummer: or ln -sf if it already exists07:24
thoreauputicjron: I've seen that too - don't know the answer though07:25
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mc|ambis this correct--> sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.1.3/carpeta /mnt/win07:25
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trappistmc|amb: depends.  it's a valid command though.07:26
drummertrappist: wow could have sworn that was one of two dozen things I tried about 2AM, but I'll try again.07:26
mc|ambtarppist: depends on what?? my shares??07:26
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mc|ambtrappist: depends on what? my shares?07:26
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yohanI tried installing xmms and mplayer but all the menus are so uglt07:26
trappistmc|amb: for one thing.  you might have better luck saying "when I run this command, this happens.  what am I doing wrong?"07:26
yohanshould i install gtk2 or something?07:27
yohanor gtk2 version of xmms etc?07:27
mc|ambtrappist: ok, just a sec07:27
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n0odl3how do i take a screenshot?07:27
n0odl3in term?07:27
trappistn0odl3: import -window root filename.png07:27
ahoorahi all07:27
thoreauputicyohan: those appsare both gtk 1 - try beep-media-player for a gtk2 version of xmms07:27
yohanthanks thoreauputic07:28
mcrawforhey, what's that meta-package that gets you all the build-essentials again?07:28
yohanshould i try and only install gtk2?07:28
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graabeinokay, i got rar to work, great... now about gnomebaker -- it suddenly messes up my file names!07:28
trappistmc|amb: build-essential07:28
mcrawfortee hee07:28
Gdp_usrlamGreetings from argentina07:28
mc|ambtrappist, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/406907:28
trappistgraabein: truncates and capitalizes?07:28
mcrawforstupid plurals07:28
thoreauputicyohan: erm - up to you really - you don't install gtk2 as such, just the apps you want07:28
graabeintrappist, hmmmm, truncates i guess...07:29
yohanthoreauputic: how do i start that music player?07:29
trappistmc|amb: can you ping that ip address?07:29
graabeintrappist, it worked properly before, i swear, but i can't find any preferences07:29
robotgeekalrite, time to snooze! cya all later07:29
thoreauputicyohan: ?  beep-media-player appears in the gnome menu07:29
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yohanthoreauputic: yeah but whats the command for it?07:29
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thoreauputicyohan: or just type  beep-media-player07:30
mc|ambtrappist: no, but the address i'm trying to connect can ping me07:30
thoreauputicor beep <hit tab>07:30
trappistgraabein: I've never used the app, but certain cd filesystems are very picky about filenames.07:30
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yohanthanks!07:30
mc|ambtrappist: wait, yes I can ping that ip07:30
trappistmc|amb: my guess is you have a routing issue or a firewall issue.  if you can't ping it, you're not likely to be able to mount its shares.07:30
trappistok.07:30
axel_Where o i have to start to get chroot ?07:30
drummertrappist:  Bless You, thank you, it f***ing worked!!!!!!07:30
mey!w32codecs07:30
ubotumethinks w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).07:30
graabeintrappist, yep i know, but i've burned dvd's with it before... could it be a config file somewhere?07:30
trappistdrummer: I forgot which problem what yours :)07:30
trappistgraabein: yes, it could.07:30
mc|ambtrappist: I can pint the ip... so what do you think is wrong??07:31
trappistmc|amb: try smbclient -L thatip07:31
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mc|ambtrappist: i've tried that and It doesn't work07:32
trappistdrummer: oh you were the vmware guy.  you're welcome :)07:32
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ahooracan some1 help me plz ... i have installed g++ and i want to start programming :( but i dont know how to run it07:32
trappistmc|amb: you don't get to say "doesn't work" in here.07:32
drummertrappist: Molto grazie.  ciao.07:32
ahoorawhen i type g++ it asks me for input file07:32
trappistdrummer: any time07:32
NigelSahoora: g++ is a c++ compiler, you need to provide it with your C++ source code and then it will compile it by default to a.out - otherwise with the -o switch to the file of your choice.07:33
mc|ambtrappist: it says: timed out connecting to ip07:33
trappistahoora: g++ is a compiler, not a development environment.  first you write code with a text editor, then you compile it with g++/07:33
trappistmc|amb: is the remote machine a linux box?07:33
mc|ambtrappist, nope. windows07:33
ahooraso there is no user interface ?07:33
trappistmc|amb: I'm definitely thinking firewall.  is it windows xp?07:34
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trappistahoora: no07:34
mc|ambtrappist: yep07:34
NigelSahoora: there is a user interface, it's the command line - g++ is a compiler not an IDE, you're after a different program altogether07:34
ahoorais there any user interface program that can make it easier?07:34
trappistmc|amb: try turning off the firewall07:34
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trappistahoora: kdevelop07:34
ahooramy god linux is so hard07:34
ahooralol07:34
trappisthehe07:34
mc|ambtrappist: it had zonealarm turned on.,. so i turned it off ,and still nothing, or does xp has another firewall?07:35
trappistmc|amb: yes, it has one built in.07:35
NigelSahoora: I suggest you get a book on C or some such, or download it from the web.  To make software, if you're a beginner programmer you should forget about an IDE for now.  Start with a text editor, like emacs, vim, kate and create your source like that.  Then run a compiler on it.07:35
Dr_WillisXP service pack 2 - disables lots of things with its firewall07:35
trappistlunch time.  bbiaf.07:35
mc|ambtrappist: can you help me turn it off?07:35
ahooratrappist: after one year working with windows i was familiar with that what do you think how long does it take for me to become familiar with linux? lol07:36
ahooraNigels thanks alot07:36
ahoorabut what about libraries like conio.h and others does it accept them by default?07:36
thoreauputicahoora: that depends on you07:36
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musikNigelS: dont u think IDEs are better for newbies.....than emacs or vim!!!!!!!!!07:37
ahoorathoreauputic do you knowo any good online source for starters? i have started with linux.org lessons07:37
sunyja moment ago,I installed debian,but when rebooting,occur "miss kernel and user mode driver hw_rendom",07:37
NigelSmusik: absolutely not.07:37
thoreauputicahoora: how much you learn and how fast depends on your effort07:37
sunyjwhat's "hw_rendom"07:38
thoreauputicahoora: for basic commands try http://tuxfiles.org07:38
ahoorathank you i am checking it now07:38
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musikNigelS: why not?? im also goign to begin c++ programming.....why u recommend emacs. vim.....these themselves require learning...07:39
NigelSahoora: conio.h is a DOS header07:39
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sunyj a moment ago,I installed debian,but when rebooting,occur "miss kernel and user mode driver hw_rendom",07:39
sunyjwhy07:39
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thoreauputicahoora: if you are planning to stick with ubuntu or debian google for "apt howto" or install the  apt-howto package07:39
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sunyjI could't install debian,but I can install ubuntu07:40
thoreauputicahoora: if you install that package and run the command  apt-howto it will open in a browser07:40
orbishekhi07:40
ahoorathanks07:40
NigelSmusik: they're text editors, plain and simple text editors.  You're welcome to use any text editor you like.  An IDE can get in the way, it doesn't help you program if you're just doing simple programs and it's best to understand them all yourself without any fancy features first.  If you like use nano, or gedit.  I suggested emacs or vim or kate as they have syntax highlighting and understand indentation which are nice thigs to have.  It's also *worth* learn07:40
mc|ambtrappist: thanks!!!!!!!!!!! it was the fucking xp firewall07:41
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zookoDear Ubuntuists: I've already reported this bug, and now I'm asking for help in how to get my system usable again without screwing up /usr/bin/ldd...  http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1889607:41
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ahoorafrom next week any one who'd have a problem can ask me LOL07:41
orbishekwhen  i try running real player ,i get "failed ti initialize child process,access denied" ,what's wrong07:41
ChousukeNigelS: nice rant.07:41
x_orAnyone know what switch I can provide to apt-get remove mysql-server to remove the data directories?  I want to completely obliterate the databases and reinstall.07:41
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musikNigelS: thx for the help.....but IDEs also do indentation, highlighting etc...even debugging:)07:42
n0odl3trappist: it doesnt work07:42
NigelSChousuke: not how I'd characterise it but you're welcome.07:42
x_ororbishek:  What sound manager are you using?07:42
HappyFoolanyone know how to turn off the ipv6 listening port in dnsmasq?07:42
ahooraorbishek you are the lucky one because i installed it but there is only a shortcut here and nothing happens when i click it :D07:42
n0odl3trappist: do you know another way?07:42
musikwhoa so many questions......07:42
dduckoDoes anyone know of an app fro converting image filetypes,  ie .tga to .jpg?07:42
NigelSmusik: sure, but for linux it's good to learn to use the tools and use make files.  A lot of open source projects use them and it's nice to understand that process.07:42
NigelSdducko: imagemagick's conver should do that I think?07:43
NigelSconvert*07:43
dduckothanks07:43
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zookoHow do I delete diversions?07:43
orbisheki'm new to this ,i dont get you ,what's a sound manager (in linux)07:43
n0odl3does anyone else know a way to take screenshot with term?07:43
erUSULn0odl3, man xwd07:44
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thoreauputicn0odl3:  if you install imagemagick you  can do   import -window root screen.png07:44
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Niomidducko, doesn't gimp do that?07:44
troy14help! I cant get a connection to mysql07:44
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thoreauputicNiomi: he asked for "from terminal"07:45
zookoA-ha!  dpkg-divert.07:45
dduckoI dont need that power just need to change them quickly... and I didnt check..07:45
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dduckoGimp confuses me07:45
Niomithoreauputic: oh, i'm sorry.. heh, maybe i need more tea07:45
NigelSconvert is good because you can stick it in a bash script for mass conversions07:45
musikNigelS: what shud i use? emacs, vim or xemacs or something else??  and how do i learn these advanced editors in 1st place??07:45
troy14can anyone offer some suggestions as to why mysql cont connect?07:45
HappyFoolboth emacs and vim have built-in tutorials07:45
troy14acn't?07:45
troy14can't?07:46
zookomusik I use xemacs.  You start it, and then run the self-tutorial.07:46
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graabeini found a setting for gnome baker in configuration editor called joliet... it's a checkbox. if i check it, will the filenames come out properly and not truncated??07:46
FatDarelYo people what is up with the ubuntu xpdf its all messsed up man  . . . .07:46
BolsDoes someone know the command to disable sudo plz?07:46
FatDarelyeah ...07:47
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WildZeckapt-get remove sudo07:47
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FatDarelBols, use su :)07:47
HappyFoolBols: you mean maybe 'sudo -k' ?07:47
NigelSmusik: you need to find the one that you're most comfortable with but yes they all have tutorials.  For example the command vimtutor starts a vim tutorial.  Emacs is v. powerful and effectively like an IDE when it's configured, e.g. you can issue compilations commands from within it etc and also has its tutorial07:47
trappistn0odl3: define "doesn't work"07:47
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WildZeckdo you want to remove it ?07:47
BolsHappyFool, hmm.. no, I just want to give a password to my root account07:47
WildZeckor desactivate it ?07:47
troy14!mysql07:47
ubotuit has been said that lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP07:47
HappyFool!tell Bols about sudo07:47
FatDarelNigelS, yes emacs is a very good IDE but i can never slesct a block of text inside vi07:48
HappyFoolBols: read that wikipage07:48
n0odl3thoreauputic: i c can i just sudo apt-get imagemagick?07:48
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orbishekwhen i try to install my graphics card driver,it's searching for a compiler (not found),i thought it was packaged in ubuntu,how do i install it07:48
musikNigelS: thx....guess i'll go with emacs....can u tell me whats diff between emacs & xemacs?07:48
WildZecksudo passwd -u root07:48
thoreauputicn0odl3:  sudo apt-get install imagemagick07:48
JemtGreetings. I have installed Firestarter which needs to run as root. Currently I use 'gksu firestarter' to start the program as root. But this program contains a password wallet and keeps asking me to save the password. Does Ubuntu come with another program than gksu?07:48
Jameshi folks - I'm still using Hoary and I'm having some problems with the CD burner feature in Nautilus.07:48
NigelSmusik: one is in a terminal, the other is graphical07:48
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HappyFoolJemt: tried 'gksudo' ?07:48
thirsoorbishek: $ sudo apt-get install build-essential07:49
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FatDareli cannot get any PDF support on ubuntu what the .. is going07:49
JemtHappyFool: nope, I'll try that -thanks ! :)07:49
FatDarelJemt, sticky biut it07:49
emgeeAnyone here using skype?07:49
emgeeCan't hear people..07:49
emgeeOther sounds in ubuntu works fine07:49
JemtFatDarel: ?07:49
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thoreauputicFatDarel: on breezy the default is the  evince viewer07:49
FatDarelJemt, stick bit ...07:50
musikPJeremy: sorry dude...no idea...never tried to alter those..07:50
WildZeckFatDarel, ??? i run acrobat reader from adobe acrobat reader07:50
JemtFatDarel: What is 'stick bit' ?07:50
FatDarelthoreauputic, what is it again ..07:50
orbishekthirso: i dont have internet in linux (modem bug),only online via windows07:50
thoreauputicFatDarel:  evince07:50
FatDarelWildZeck, i am on x86_64 that's the problem07:50
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ahooraNigels could you plz tell me how can i write a simple program to cout a sentence ... i wrote the program but it generates error : cout :undeclared07:50
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WildZeckFatDarel, and ?07:50
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WildZeckFatDarel, all i386 package work on i6407:51
WildZeckdo you try it ?07:51
trappistahoora: /join #c++07:51
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FatDarelWildZeck, acrobat jsut doesn't start i type acroread wait a second and then it dies with a SIGKILL07:51
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thoreauputicFatDarel: try evince - it's really very good07:52
WildZecktry Xpdf07:52
FatDarelWildZeck, i am on x86_64/amd6407:52
NgFatDarel: you should try evince because it is very good. Do you have ia32-libs installed? or did you install in a 32bit chroot?07:52
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WildZeckFatDarel, i run i386 knoppix on that AMD 64 it's works fine07:52
FatDarelI get an acrorad , then a Abort07:52
FatDarelNg, let me check that ia32-libs thingy07:53
graabeini found a setting for gnome baker in configuration editor called joliet... it's a checkbox. if i check it, will the filenames come out properly and not truncated??07:53
FatDarelWildZeck, it should I think the ubuntu libs are not all there for me07:53
Nggraabein: joliet extensions give you long filenames in windows, rockridge extensions give you long filenames and ownership/permissions in linux07:53
orbishekthirso:does it require internet connection,  i dont have internet in linux (modem bug),only online via windows,07:53
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Nggraabein: generally enabling both is probably the best solution :)07:54
erUSULgraabein, joliet is for cd aimed at windows rockridge the same for unix. i enable both07:54
graabeinthanks guys, ill try it out07:54
FatDarelNg, looks like I got the ia32-libs07:54
Taa5iWhat does it mean when it says there are no installation candidates, for something which appears in the apt-get install tab-completion list?07:54
graabeindinner time. later...07:54
WildZeckFatDarel, acrobat reader 5.0.9 may 2004 here07:55
NgFatDarel: hmm, I would have expected acroread to run then, but not all 32bit stuff is happy on amd64. Looks like you'll be trying evince or xpdf ;)07:55
NgFatDarel: or installing a 32bit chroot07:55
FatDarelWildZeck, the acrobat reader 7 is what i am trying07:55
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musikor buying intel:)07:55
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FatDarelNg, xpdf fails07:55
FatDarelNg, got docks for a choroot 32bit ?07:55
Ngmusik: amd64 is a nice platform, I'm on it now, just in 32bit mode ;)07:55
WildZeckFatDarel, use the 5.0 version all static build ...07:55
FatDarelThis is going to take more time than I know07:55
FatDarelthan I have  . . .07:56
musikNg: im noob....are there any advantages of amd over 1386??07:56
NgFatDarel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot should do I think07:56
WildZeckFatDarel, sudo apt-get install xpdf evince07:56
n0odl3trappist: where do i find the snapshots when im done taking them?07:56
WildZeckfast , efficient07:56
trappistn0odl3: in the directory you're in07:56
trappistn0odl3: if you do import -window root shot.png you'll have a shiny new shot.png07:57
runedudehey guys i got a q07:57
Ngmusik: price mostly, but they're pretty nippy, especially if you do run them in 64bit mode07:57
runedudewhat iso should i dl for a 64bit on a Intel arch?07:57
WildZeckacrobat reader 5 works everywhere ...07:57
WildZeck7 ... ?07:57
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Blissexrunedude: its the same for AMD and Intel 64 bit...07:57
Ngrunedude: IA64 or EMT64?07:57
musikNg: i see....07:57
runedudeerm07:58
runedudeim not exactly sure07:58
runedudei am using a x86-64 processor07:58
Taa5iSpecifically I want to be able to get Colortail, please.07:58
Blissexrunedude: if you are asking, it is not an Itanic...07:58
ahoora:( somebody help me i dont want to come back to windows .... can someone pass me a simple program that can be complied by gcc ?07:58
runedudeah07:58
runedudeits prolly EMT64 then07:58
Blissexrunedude: yes, and is the same as AMD64.07:58
Ngrunedude: you can either choose the amd64 one if you want 64bit, or the i386 one if you want 32bit (slower, but more compatible)07:58
runedudeis it?07:58
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NigelSahoora: you need iostream.h to be included07:58
runedudehm07:58
runedudei was thinking of trying the amd64 livecd07:59
runedudeto test comptability07:59
ahooraNigels i have already included it07:59
sorush20guys all flash content seems to be infront of my other web page content in firefox what should I do?07:59
trappistahoora: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~rhoads/Obfuscated_C/12bugs.of.c07:59
Blissexrunedude: it is almost identical, so the same binaries work on botjh, it just requires a tiny few changes in the kernel, and they both there.07:59
runedudealso, if i burn the amd64 iso image to a dvdr, can i boot via a dvd drive?07:59
Blissexrunedude: ideally yes...07:59
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Blissexrunedude: unless the DVD drive is _really_ old.07:59
runedudeno07:59
runedudeits new07:59
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runedudei just got this computer in august07:59
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runedudei guess its worth a shot08:00
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runedudeso08:00
runedudehttp://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/breezy/ubuntu-5.10-live-amd64.iso08:00
runedudewould be good?08:00
Ngrunedude: the amd64 version is fine if you don't care too much about windows video formats and running commercial binary software. Many things can be made to work with the 32bit compatibility libs you can install, or there is the option to have a 32bit parallel install, but that can be a little messy08:00
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Ngrunedude: yep08:00
runedudeokay08:01
runedudethanks08:01
smi|ehi all08:01
smi|ejust come home from work08:01
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smi|e://08:01
NigelSahoora: #include <iostream.h> int main( void ) { cout << "test string\n"; return 0; } and then g++ ./<file> -o <outputname>08:01
smi|eanyone need support?08:01
musiki do:)08:01
matwHi, how can I get a list of packages available from 'universe' only?08:01
smi|emusik: how can i help08:01
musiki cant install dvdrip.......says depends on transcode.....but not going to be installed......08:01
smi|ematw load synaptic08:01
musiksmi|e: i cant install dvdrip.......says depends on transcode.....but not going to be installed......08:01
matwgot that, but it shows from 'main' also08:02
smi|emusik: sudo apt-get install dvdrip08:02
smi|ematw: use filter08:02
matwI want 'universe' only08:02
matwfilter is in synaptic?08:02
smi|ematw should be in settings/preferences08:02
smi|ematw sure is08:02
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matwok thanks let me try it08:02
smi|ematw:  your welcome08:02
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smi|emusik: it work?08:03
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musikfollowing packages have unmet dependencies:08:04
musik  dvdrip: Depends: transcode (>= 2:0.6.14) but it is not installable08:04
musikE: Broken packages08:04
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smi|enot sure08:04
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musiksmi|e: im on hoary....using hoary sources.list which ubotu gave08:04
budluvaanyone here familiar with installing winecvs via linux-gamers.net WineCVS.sh?08:04
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smi|emusik: update too breezy08:04
smi|emost things work better on breezy08:04
smi|ehi apokryphos08:04
budluvajust wondering if i need the actual wine package installed?08:04
apokryphossmi|e: hi08:05
No1VikingAre there any new guide, like ubuntuguide.org for Breezy out there?08:05
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Taa5i|lunchsmi|e: I could use some help.  I wish to install colortail, but apt-get says it has no installation candidate, despite it showing up in the apt-get install tab-completed list.  How might I resolve this, please?08:05
musiksmi|e: i tried kubutnu breezy.....too slow for me.....thats why back to hoary...much faster & less buggier....thx anyways08:05
smi|eTaa5i|lunch: have you updated your sources.list?08:05
smi|emusik: ubuntu breezy badger08:05
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smi|eubotu tell musik about breezy08:06
musiksmi|e: i cant stand gnome:)08:06
Booboocan somebody tell me how to install programs in gnome08:06
smi|emusik install kubuntu-desktop on gnome?08:06
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smi|eBooboo: what program you want?08:06
mc|ambwhats the command to unmount a samba share??08:06
Taa5i|lunchsmi|e: I just ran apt-get update a few moments ago, in fact.  I have universe main multiverse and restricted set in sources.list08:06
erUSULTaa5i|lunch, there is no colortail package in breezy at least in official repos08:06
Boobookopete08:06
smi|eTaa5i|lunch: You on Breezy?08:07
smi|eBooboo: sudo apt-get install kopete in terminal should do it08:07
smi|e:)08:07
Taa5i|lunchsmi|e: I am.  Fresh install a couple days ago.08:07
musiksmi|e: did that already.....the moment kubuntu-desktop came...i began having weird probls....like i wud land up in console mode for no reason!!08:07
Boobooill try08:07
NigelSmc|amb: sudo umount <mountpoint>08:07
smi|eTaa5i|lunch: ok08:07
ahooraNigelS thanks .. i am trying it08:07
smi|eTaa5i|lunch: let me deal with musik08:07
Taa5i|luncherUSUL: Curious, when I type apt-get install colortail it shows it as an option.08:07
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smi|eTaa5i|lunch: give me 5 mins08:07
Taa5i|lunchsmi|e: Certainly, thank you.08:07
fsmwjdub, ping08:07
smi|emusik i use xubuntu desktop - kubuntu desktop - edubuntu desktop08:08
thoreauputicTaa5i|lunch: that is odd indeed since the package doesn't exist :)08:08
smi|eall on ubuntu08:08
smi|eworks fine for me08:08
mc|ambNigelS, thanks08:08
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Taa5i|lunchthoreauputic: I would be open to using an alternative that accomplished the same thing, if such exists.08:08
thoreauputicTaa5i|lunch: apt-cache search and apt-cache policy know nothing about ti08:08
thoreauputic*it08:08
smi|eBooboo: did that work08:08
erUSULTaa5i|lunch, another package refers to it, but it is not there08:08
musiksmi|e: looks like im not so lucky..others are also having same prob with kubuntu breezy....im waiting for dapper:)08:08
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smi|emusik hmm im not too sure08:08
ZnarlIs there anyone here who had problems with the us archive mirror yesterday?08:09
smi|eTaa5i|lunch: ok whatsup?08:09
thoreauputicTaa5i|lunch: what does it do exactly?08:09
musiksmi|e: lets just wait for dapper duck:)08:09
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Taa5i|lunchthoreauputic: It color-codes tail logs, for ease of reading/monitoring.08:09
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smi|eTaa5i|lunch: what did you want?08:09
thoreauputicTaa5i|lunch: I think root-tail does that08:09
smi|eah thoreauputic is helping ya :)08:10
CookedGryphonhi, my gdm stopped loading after i tried out kde, it jstu goes to a text login and i have to start the x server myself, where do i set gdm to run instead>?08:10
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Taa5i|lunchsmi|e: I don't quite understand apt, I guess.  Hitting tab in apt-get install foo shows a list of things matching foo, but some of them don't actually exist it appears [eg colortail] 08:10
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thoreauputicTaa5i|lunch: but getting root-tail to work in gnome is difficult as nautilus draws the desktop08:10
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smi|eTaa5i|lunch: use synaptic08:10
Taa5i|lunchthoreauputic: I use E, actually.08:10
arkeyhola, oigan como le hago para ver un disco ntfs, ay estan todas mis canciones?08:11
Taa5i|lunchsmi|e: Thank you, I'll look at that.08:11
thoreauputicTaa5i|lunch: ah OK - well try root-tail then08:11
smi|eTaa5i|lunch: Your more than welcome ;)08:11
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Taa5i|lunchthoreauputic: Thank you, I'll look into it.08:11
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CookedGryphonarkey #ubuntu-es08:11
erUSULCookedGryphon, update-rc.d gdm defaults08:11
thoreauputicTaa5i|lunch: it's in universe08:11
CookedGryphonerUSUL thanks08:11
arkeyCookedGryphon nadie contesta08:11
Taa5i|lunchFetching it now.08:12
erUSULarkey, vete a #ubuntu-es08:12
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arkeynadie me contesta ay08:12
ahooraNigelS: how can i run the output file ? it makes a.out which is said to be : "ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped"08:12
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erUSULarkey, entro yo ahora espera un momento08:13
HappyFool ./a.out08:13
onkarshindeI upgraded from hoary to breezy. But I don't see that USplash thing.08:13
trappistahoora: ./a.out08:13
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ahooraoh thanks08:13
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CookedGryphonerUSUL it says System startup links for /etc/init.d/gdm already exist. will it have done anything?08:14
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erUSULCookedGryphon, then it is not a problem of startup scripts for some reason gdm won't start08:15
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smi|ebbl all08:15
thoreauputicCookedGryphon: be sure the file  /etc/X11/default-display-manager  exists and contains /usr/bin/gdm08:15
erUSULCookedGryphon, check the config of gdm and the logs08:15
smi|ecya thoreauputic08:15
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jacktradeshello ppl08:16
jacktradescan anyone help me with a problem in evolution?08:16
thoreauputicCookedGryphon: sorry apparently on breezy it's /usrsbin/gdm08:16
thoreauputic?usr/sbin/gdm08:16
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fredyi get an error when trying to install with apt-get, backports repo not available08:16
onkarshindeCan anyone help me please?08:17
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onkarshindeI upgraded from hoary to breezy. But I don't see that USplash thing.08:17
thoreauputicfredy: comment backports out  in /etc/apt/sources.list08:17
ahoorai am quite new to linux .... is there any shortcomings if i use gcc in compare with windows compilers?08:17
erUSULonkarshinde, ask08:17
thoreauputicfredy: there aren't any yet08:17
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HappyFoolahoora: no windows.h ;)08:17
thoreauputicahoora: rather the reverse08:17
fredythoreauputic: thnx08:18
erUSULahoora, Ansi C should work the same in any decent compiler08:19
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thoreauputiconkarshinde: install ubuntu-artwork-usplash  (or whatever it's called)  then do  sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)08:19
onkarshindethoreauputic: Will try08:19
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budluva!pastebin08:20
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:20
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jacktradesdoes anybody have this problem when making an appointment in evolution: "There is no calendar available for creating events and meetings"???08:21
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thoreauputiconkarshinde: actually there doesn't appear to be a separate package for the ubuntu usplash - but the dpkg-reconfigure is the key to it08:21
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Wombat_Willyhi08:21
Blippehi08:21
onkarshindethoreauputic: You mean reconfigure the linux-image ... right?08:22
thoreauputiconkarshinde: yes08:22
Wombat_Willydoes anyone know where I can get a copy of libpthread.so.0 and libc.so.6?08:22
Wombat_Willyi broke mine08:22
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thoreauputiconkarshinde: the command I gave will reconfigure the right one   $(uname -r)08:22
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onkarshindethoreauputic: In the output of reconfigure here is one line. "Searching for splash image... none found, skipping..."08:26
dell500anyone know how to refresh the gnome panel?08:26
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thoreauputiconkarshinde: yes I saw that too - it still seems to work though08:26
thoreauputicgo figure...08:26
thoreauputicdell500:  killall gnome-panel08:27
thoreauputicdell500: it comes back ;)08:27
BoobooSmi|e it seems i do not get it, it is my firt time in the linux gnome world, i like it here and i start to hate windows, heheh but can you explain it step by step08:27
HiddenFl1If I install a program that has dependencies with apt-get and later I uninstall the program, it doesn't remove its dependencies even if any other software doesn't use them, right?08:27
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OneSeventeenI forgot, what's the command to add a user to a group?08:27
dell500thoreauputic, do you happen to know how to get the fglrx control to work?08:27
trappistHiddenFl1: right08:27
thoreauputicdell500: no, sorry08:28
Juhazdell500, what do you mean by refresh? menu items?08:28
dell500Juhaz, ya08:28
ahooraguys i want to apply chmod to all files and subdirectories included in a special dir .... how can i do that?08:28
trappistOneSeventeen: sudo vi /etc/group08:28
HiddenFl1Is there anyway I would make it to remove them?08:28
trappistahoora: chmod -R08:28
dell500anyone know how to get the fglrx-control to work?08:28
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HiddenFl1And propably to check if they are needed by any other package.08:28
thoreauputicHiddenFl1: right - you can use aptitude - it does that08:28
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cuscohi!08:28
HiddenFl1thoreauputic: ok thanks08:28
onkarshindethoreauputic: There is one problem with menu.lst. Whenever I add, remove or reconfigure any linux0image package it deletes any extra entries (ex. Windows entry) from menu.lst. Is there any bug for this?08:28
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matwOneSeventeen, 'adduser <username> <groupname>'08:28
cuscoI need help big time on my network interfaces... I don't know where to start08:29
thoreauputiconkarshinde: woah - scary :(08:29
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Juhazdell500, they should automatically refresh, as long as gam is working, but when something goes wrong, killing it is indeed the only way to force reload08:29
OneSeventeenmatw: perfect!08:29
matwcool08:29
thoreauputiconkarshinde: I haven't seen that happen here - maybe someone else can reproduce/confirm08:29
OneSeventeennow how do I tell what group a folder belongs to?08:30
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trappistOneSeventeen: ls -l filename08:30
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matwseveas, where do I report a FreeNX bug?08:30
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onkarshindeOneSeventeen: ls -l into parent folder08:30
Seveasmatw, if it's a bug with my packages: me08:30
matwhow to send you email?08:30
mclamb;asldkj08:30
erUSULOneSeventeen, ls -l? nautilus?08:30
matwor bulletin board you'll see08:31
OneSeventeentrappist/onkarshinde/erUSUL: cool, thanks08:31
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OneSeventeenerUSUL: SSH (no gui installed)08:31
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Fanskapethmm what's the name in english for the service connecting your bank account directly to a company's billing system?08:31
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matwseveas, where (how) can I send you a bug report?08:32
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erUSULOneSeventeen, mc then ;)08:32
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OneSeventeenerUSUL: mc?08:33
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erUSULOneSeventeen, midnight commander08:34
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matwseveas, where (how) can I send you a bug report?08:35
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OneSeventeenerUSUL: ahhh, yeah, that's in universe, and I'm being a panzy =P  (production webserver, so my boss wants it as easily supported as possible, which means no extra repositories for me :( )08:35
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onkarshindeI am trying to uninstall python. But it asks for whole lot of other packages to be uninstalled. Some of them are file-roller and gdm. I don't understand how are they dependent on Python.08:36
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yanqihi08:36
HappyFoolonkarshinde: at a guess they are python programs08:36
Seveasmatw, sorry was busy with 3 other things :)08:36
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Tomcat_onkarshinde: They probably depend on some functionality that needs python.08:37
Seveasmatw, dennis@ubuntu.com08:37
onkarshindeHappyFool: GDM is not.08:37
matwthanks08:37
erUSULonkarshinde, they are partially written in python??08:37
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erUSULonkarshinde, or whole?08:37
fatehazeAnyone have an idea why my "Add programs" doesn't work?08:37
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thoreauputic!doesn't work08:37
ubotumethinks doesn't work is something you should never say.  Be more specific.08:37
fatehazeWould refuses to work be more accurate?  I click on it an nothing happens.08:38
yanqidoes someone knows if ubuntu works with the livebox08:38
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HappyFoolonkarshinde: neither is file-roller. also, 'apt-cache depends file-roller' doesn't list python; must be a second-or-more level dependency.08:39
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onkarshindeHappyFool: That might be the case.08:39
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thoreauputicfatehaze: you might be able to drag and drop from the menu entry and make a launcher, then read the command in the properties, run it in a terminal ( I can't try this as I'm in fluxbox)08:39
fatehazek, I'll give it a shot08:40
thoreauputicfatehaze: if that is possible it might show an error08:40
Tomcat_onkarshinde: Why do you want python uninstalled anyway? There are lots of things that need it, from full programs to simple scripts...08:40
HappyFoolonkarshinde: ah, looks like it might be launchpad-stuff08:40
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matw/etc/apt/sources.list says 'universe' packages are "UNSUPPORTED", but there's a 'universe' security repository? Are there security updates to 'universe' packages?08:41
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thoreauputicmatw: yes, they are "community" supported08:41
Tomcat_matw: They are unsupported by the Ubuntu people. But the Universe community might still deliver security updates.08:41
onkarshindeTomcat_: I thought that I installed it in hoary. I have upgraded to breezy. But it is my mistake. I just installed some addons. Python was there already.08:41
matwthanks everyone08:41
fatehazeWell, terminal says "command not found" when I try to run gnome-app-install.desktop08:42
thoreauputicmatw: that just means Canonical can't support universe directly08:42
fatehazeIn fact, terminal says that for just about everything08:42
tekeoI want to make auto mount on my sata drive (ntfs) out it into /mnt/windows and do so I can use it with any user08:42
fatehazeNo make either08:42
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onkarshindefatehaze: You can't run .desktop thing from terminal08:42
fatehazeHmm08:42
thoreauputicfatehaze: try gnome-app-install  ;)08:43
onkarshindefatehaze: Are you in GUI?08:43
thoreauputicfatehaze: tab completion is your friend :)08:43
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fatehazeAh, ok, thoreuputic was right :D08:43
thoreauputic:)08:43
tekeoI want to make auto mount on my sata drive (ntfs) to /mnt/windows and also make it useable with my ordinary user08:43
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tekeoI've been googeling for quite some time..08:44
onkarshindetekeo: Breezy?08:44
tekeoBreee?08:45
tekeowhat08:45
onkarshindetekeo: What version of Ubuntu?08:45
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thoreauputicfatehaze: to run gnome-app-install you'll need  gksudo gnome-app-install  BTW08:45
sryanI'm confused..08:46
tekeo64 bit08:46
stashi08:46
sryanSomeone got a second for a newbie? :(08:46
stasI tried "upgrading" 5.04 -> 5.1008:46
matwsure08:46
sryanconfigure: error: "cannot find libjpeg support"08:46
sryanroot@argon:/home/sryan/Desktop/hpijs-2.1.4#08:46
stasand everything is retardedly fucked up08:46
sryanHow would I solve that issue?08:46
stasNOTHING works08:46
tekeoI don't know08:46
onkarshinde!tell tekeo about ntfs08:46
sryanI tried apt-get install libjpeg but that didn't cut it.08:46
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thoreauputicsryan: what are you compilingand why?08:47
onkarshindestas: How did you try to upgrade?08:47
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stasIs there anyway I can fix things? or is Windows for me?08:47
sryanHopefully, going to compile drivers for my HP laserjet 4 plus.08:47
stasI went to "synaptic"08:47
sryanEverything I tried that came with Ubuntu hasn't worked.08:47
stasand I changed the "repositories"08:47
stasto breezy08:47
onkarshindesryan: What are you trying to so?08:47
stasinstead of hoary08:47
sryanI'm trying to install the HP drivers...08:47
sryanbut, they're bombing out due to no libjpeg support.08:47
onkarshindestas: Then what?08:47
thoreauputicsryan: should be included by default - I have a laserjet 6L here08:47
sryanThey are, but they're not working for some reason.08:48
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sryanI mean, the command gets to the printer but it's garbage that prints.08:48
stasThen, I "Marked All Upgrades"08:48
stasand "Applied"08:48
E0xwhat is the name of package with the all tools for compile ?08:48
stasand then I rebooted08:48
sryanI tried everything driver available for it. :(08:48
E0xbuild-essencial or something like that ?08:48
stasand for some reason I got twice as many choices for booting08:48
thoreauputicsryan: try a different driver08:48
onkarshindestas: You should have read the upgrade notes first.08:48
stasbut I just picked the top one08:48
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sryanthoreauputic:  I tried all of em!08:48
sryanthat's why I wanna get this HP driver from HP to maybe work.08:48
onkarshindestas: What happens then?08:48
thoreauputicsryan: :(08:48
sryanheh.08:48
stasI followed the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:49
stasoh, then it loads08:49
sryanGotta be an apt-get for libjpeg i would assume..08:49
stasbut I can't open anything08:49
onkarshindestas: Can you login?08:49
stasx-chat just loads on startup for me08:49
thoreauputicsryan: it would be a -dev package08:49
stasso that's why I can use it08:49
stasyeah I can log in :)08:49
stasbut now that I'm here08:49
stasall the icons are Xs08:49
fatehazeWhat Programming packages should I install to be able to make sources?08:49
stasnone of the things on Applications/System work08:50
matwsyran, apt-get has lots of flags, maybe there's one for "get all dependencies". Just a guess on my part08:50
staseverything is broken08:50
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stastext is missing from some places08:50
thoreauputicfatehaze:  build-essential is the first08:50
stasfirefox used to be in Russian, but now isn't08:50
stas(firefox loads on startup with xchat)08:50
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onkarshindestas: Open root terminal from applications->System tools and issue a command dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop. This will require a long time.08:51
fatehazeEr, don't see that one08:51
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onkarshindestas: Your system wide settings may be lost. But user data and settings will be preserved.08:51
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thoreauputicfatehaze:  sudo apt-get install build-essential08:51
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stasand that will fix everything?08:51
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thoreauputicfatehaze: it's in main - it's even on the CD I think08:52
stashow do I opn a terminal?08:52
ahooracan someone gimme the command to dl g++ plz08:52
trappistsudo apt-get install g++08:52
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little_bobhi. anybody experienced with a iomega rev usb drive?08:52
Seveasahoora, apt-get install build-essential08:52
matwfatehaze: try 'apt-cache search <command>' where <command> is the name of a tool that you want to use, like "make"08:52
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fatehazek08:53
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thoreauputicmatw:  make is included with build-essential08:53
ahoorathanks i wanted to copy some .h libraries from windows ... some of them are overwrited on linux libs and my g++ doesnt work lol08:53
kvidellmore gstreamer updates huh?08:53
matwjust a general way to find what package somethings in is all I'm suggesting08:53
stasit says "Cannot display location '' Details: there's no default action associated with this location08:53
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onkarshindestas: just press Alt+F2 and then gnome-terminal08:54
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Arinuxhey all i am new to xchat\08:55
tekeoit didn't work so well for me... with the auto mounting thing08:55
Arinuxi want to connect to an irc channel how can i do it?08:55
tekeothe disks gets mounted08:55
Absenthuse /j #chanel08:55
trappistArinux: /join #channel08:55
fatehazeRockin', downloading now08:55
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tekeobut I can't play music from them08:55
stasok08:56
stasit's done08:56
stasnow what08:56
AbsenthTrappist, you a Chimay drinker?08:56
fatehazeOk, here's another noob question: how do I run binaries I download from the web?08:56
Arinuxno means irc server is irc.americasarmy.com08:56
trappistAbsenth: of course :)08:56
Arinuxhow can i connect to it08:56
fatehazeI extract them to their own dir in my home directory, but double-clicking them does nothing08:56
stas'stas@spitfire:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop08:56
stasstas@spitfire:~$08:56
Absenthtrappist, red, blue, or cream label?  :)08:56
onkarshindestas: sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop08:56
trappistArinux: that's a server, not a channel.  /newserver irc.americasarmy.com08:56
trappistAbsenth: I'm a red guy08:56
fatehazeTrying to execute it from the terminal just gives me a command not found08:56
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tiredbonesI'm using Breezy and trying to change the resolution. I use system -> preference -> screen resolution. The screen doesn't let any values to be change. How to change the resolution?08:57
Arinuxit says looking up newserver may be u missplled it!08:57
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onkarshindefatehaze: from the directory where binaries are stored type './command-name'08:57
trappistfatehaze: chmod +x filename;./filename08:57
AbsenthArinux, when you launch x-chat the server list comes up under where you set your Nick.  if the server you're trying to connect to isn't listed, add a new one.08:57
fatehazeAh, ok08:57
onkarshindetiredbones: What is current resolution and what is your monitor size?08:57
fatehazeNow it just says cannot execute binary file08:57
Absenthtrappist,  I'm partial to the blue myself.08:57
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onkarshindefatehaze: What have you downloaded?08:58
ahoora:( how can i uninstall g++?08:58
trappistAbsenth: a lot of people are.  nobody seems to like the white :)08:58
trappistahoora: apt-get remove g++08:58
stasonkarshinde, I did!!08:58
thoreauputicfatehaze:  chmod +x binaryfile08:58
stasstas@spitfire:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop08:58
fatehazeI downloaded both ZSNES and SNES9x for linux08:58
Absenthtrappist, I can drink the white, but only after a 750 or 2 of the blue.08:58
stasstas@spitfire:~$08:58
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trappist13:57 <trappist> fatehaze: chmod +x filename;./filename08:58
onkarshindestas: Is it showing any progress?08:58
tiredbonesonkarshinde, 680x400 and the monitor size 17".08:58
erUSUL!tell tiredbones about fixres08:58
fatehazeStill gives me "cannot execute binary file"08:59
onkarshindetiredbones: You may want to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the resolutions yourself.08:59
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trappistfatehaze: file filename09:00
erUSULahoora, apt-get install buildesentials09:00
tiredbonesonkarshinde, thanks09:00
matwfatehaze: what are the permissions on the binary file "ls -l binaryfile"09:00
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erUSULtiredbones, read what ubotu told you09:00
thoreauputicahoora:  build-essential  actually09:00
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tekeohow do I install mplayer09:00
fatehazeELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (Linux), statically linked, corrupeted section header size09:00
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ahooracan i delete incluse libraries by hand?09:01
tekeoI keep failing when I try...09:01
trappistfatehaze: the file is broken09:01
trappistfatehaze: or it's not done downloading yet09:01
erUSULahoora, ??09:01
tiredboneserUSUL, what is fixres? No, I screwed up and deleted it. Can ubotu resend?09:01
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benkong2what is the effect of running a dns server behind a linksys router on my web server? trying to setup ispconfig??09:01
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tiredbonesubotu, can you resend your message?09:01
ubotuNo idea, tiredbones09:01
erUSUL!tell tiredbones about fixres09:01
thoreauputictiredbones:  /msg ubotu fixres09:02
fatehazeWell, I downloaded it and extracted it from the tar.gz09:02
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eriscowhere can I get support for a Hercules 3d prophet 4000xt? when I boot up ubuntu, it cannot load the graphical interface.09:02
fatehazeThe other binary gives me something different:09:02
stasonkarshinde, it finished instantly09:02
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trappistfatehaze: file reports that the header is corrupted09:02
ahoorai destroyed some of them while using g++ after uninstalling g++ iostream and others are still there .... will i lose something if i remove them by hand and install g++ again?09:02
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sryanmwhaha, it's called libjpeg-dev09:02
sryanwoohoO!09:02
Van-atworksomeone may help me with installing ubunto09:02
fatehazeELF 32-bit LS8 executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped09:02
Van-atworkit seem not want to partition my server09:02
onkarshindestas: Are there any packages yet to be upgraded?09:02
tekeocan't find package mplayer or mplayer-38609:02
AbsenthI hate waiting for dist-upgrade to complete :(09:02
Earthenhow do i find out what my default gatway in09:02
eriscois there a general thing to fix this?09:03
trappistfatehaze: that one looks fine09:03
tiredbonesubotu, I'll check this. thanks09:03
ubotutiredbones: Wish i knew09:03
Van-atworkpoweredge 6400 dell with raid 5. Ubunto seem not want to want to partition it09:03
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eriscoor is this something no one has come across09:03
thoreauputic!tell tekeo about repos09:03
Absenthcan anyone recommend which of the synaptic kernels is best for a pentium-M laptop?09:03
fatehazeThat one gaves me the same "cannote execute binary file"09:03
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thoreauputictekeo: mplayer is in multiverse09:03
trappistfatehaze: you're not running 64 bit, are you?09:03
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JamesHi I am trying to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy.  I tried doing this through Synaptic but I'm not sure it worked.09:04
onkarshindestas: Try 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get dist-upgrade' once09:04
eriscois there a place I can look with relative information about this?09:04
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erUSULAbsenth, i68609:04
onkarshindeJames: And why do you think so?09:04
fatehazeNah, I'm running an old iBook clamshell09:04
AbsentherUSUL, danke.09:04
trappistfatehaze: a mac?09:05
fatehazeYup09:05
JamesOnk - well, because I'm not sure I changed the right thing in Synaptic.09:05
trappistfatehaze: that's why.09:05
fatehazeThink the architecture is the problem?09:05
JamesI went to Synaptic, Repositories09:05
fatehazeCurses09:05
Jamesand then clicked on one of the repositories09:05
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Jamesand changed the distro from Hoary to Breezy09:05
Jamesand then hit mark upgrades, and then Apply09:05
Jamesand there were only 3 files09:05
thoreauputicfatehaze: what makes you think binaries designed for i386 would run on a mac?09:05
onkarshindeJames: Paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin.09:05
Absenthwhere might I locate a "howto" add the ability to play mp3's09:05
Seveas!mp309:06
ubotump3 is probably a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)09:06
fatehazeBeing a newbie makes me think that09:06
thoreauputic!mp309:06
cevizoglumy logs don't seem to work in Gaim.  Is there a trick to making it work?09:06
erUSUL!tell Absenth about mp309:06
fatehazeIf I knew what I was doing I wouldn't be here09:06
Van-atworksomeone nknow why ubuntu doesnt detectd my hardisk SCSI with raid5 during the installation. icant partition hardisk. thanks you09:06
thoreauputicfatehaze: :) Point taken09:06
Jamesonk - pardon me, but what is Paste Bin?09:06
fatehazeAm I going to run into this problem with every binary?09:06
matwfatehaze: :)09:06
Absenthdanke again09:06
onkarshindeJames: Did you first 'Reload' which will update list of packages to be updated09:06
trappist!tell James about pastebin09:07
thoreauputicfatehaze: yes if they are i386 binaries09:07
stasonkarshinde, stas@spitfire:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:07
stasReading package lists... Done09:07
stasBuilding dependency tree... Done09:07
stasCalculating upgrade... Done09:07
stas0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.09:07
stasstas@spitfire:~$09:07
fatehazeI can assume that I won't find a lot of powerpc binaries floating around?09:07
thoreauputicfatehaze: use the apt/synaptic system09:07
JamesOnk, yes I reloaded, there were maybe 61 files.  The upgrade thing took care of 3 of them.09:07
cuscodoes anyone here has a wireless device and uses broadcom 4301 drivers?09:07
matwtrappist, please tell me about pastbin too09:07
trappistfatehaze: you need to either download source and compile for your platform or download binaries for your platform.09:07
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trappistmatw: /msg ubotu pastebin09:07
fatehazeOh, so if I make install a file, it'll run?09:07
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erUSULstas, please do not paste here09:07
matwthanks09:07
trappistfatehaze: ./configure && make && make install09:08
onkarshindestas: I don't understand why everything is a mess.09:08
trappistgenerally09:08
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fatehazek, I think I can deal with that09:08
Jamesok, give me a moment to locate that file for you, and then I will paste it09:08
fatehazeCompiling zsnes now :)09:08
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stassorry09:08
fatehazeOh, hm, I need NASM installed09:09
trappistfatehaze: I think you can apt-get install nes emulators for your platform09:09
Jamesby the way, should that repository have been binary?  I think I chose Source09:09
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fatehazeCan't find package09:10
fatehazeHow can I browse the available apt-get packages?09:10
Van-atworkapt-cache search09:10
ahoorahow can i fix    my files in  /usr/include/c++/3.3/backward/ ?????         lots of .h files were there09:10
trappistfatehaze: synaptic09:11
JamesI have pasted /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin09:11
fatehazeAh, ok09:11
Van-atworksomeone nknow why ubuntu doesnt detectd my hardisk SCSI with raid5 during the installation. icant partition hardisk. thanks you09:11
onkarshindefatehaze: nasm is there in universe repositories.09:11
Seveasfatehaze, or http://packages.ubuntu.com09:11
stas:(09:11
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stasok09:11
Van-atworkit seem to miss some raid module on the CD installation09:11
stasback to windows we go09:11
onkarshindestas: May be try forums stating exactly what you did.09:11
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axel_i love ubuntu09:12
fatehazeSweet, I totally thought "Add Applications" was synaptic09:12
stasmaybe Ubuntu 17.33 airy aardvark will work09:12
AbsenthVan-atwork,  I suspect it doesn't recognize the Raid controller.  I however don't know how to get around it other then perhaps recommending trying "+ubuntu +lsi 5720"  without the quotes in google.....  where the lsi blah blah blah is the make/model of your raid controller09:12
PJeremydoes anyone know what to do so that the ctrl keys can be used to select several files in kubuntu?09:12
JamesOnk, from my pastebin, line 008: "deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted"09:13
ahoorahow can i fix    my files in  /usr/include/c++/3.3/backward/ ?????         lots of .h files were there any suggestion ? :(09:13
FarrisGfor some reason, one of my machines isn't automatically mounting /home at boot09:13
AbsenthVan-atwork,  I ran into that problem with openBSD on dell Dimension 1850 systems with the LSI SCSI card which i currently unsupported by the fine people out of Calgary Alberta.09:13
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UnIDatajoj09:13
Seveasahoora, install the build-essential package09:13
UnIData +f+09:13
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FarrisGIt's in fstab properly09:13
UnIDataf09:13
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FarrisGbut I always have to go in and "mount /home" when it reboots09:13
marie-evehi09:13
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onkarshindeJames: That line is for source packages. You can comment it. Try command 'sudo apt-get update'09:13
marie-evehow to start telnetd manualy ?09:13
ahooraSeveas i remove it and install it again but there is no fix in this directory :|09:14
Jamesonk, thanks, i'll try that in just a second09:14
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ahoorai moved all files from there to see if any change happens09:14
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tekeocan't play mp3 files from my sata disc (I don't know if I can do it at all)09:14
Seveas!mp309:14
ubotuI heard mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)09:14
Absenthtekeo, I suspect !mp3 will cover it :)09:14
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onkarshindemarie-eve: 'sudo /etc/init.d/telnetd start' should work.09:14
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Jamesonk, a bunch of things run through... I get some trouble from a mirrormax hoary backport, and then I get two little error messages.09:15
vaggelishi09:15
Absenthmarie-eve,  is there a reason you require telnet over ssh?  (not trying to start a fight, more curious then anything else)09:15
|meheren|can anyone plz tell me if there is a way to safly remove hardware like a wireless card?09:15
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trappist|meheren|: pcmcia?09:16
ahoorahey guys  ... how can i fix    my files in  /usr/include/c++/3.3/backward/ ?????09:16
onkarshindeJames: Okay comment out any backport thing as there is no backport for breezy yet09:16
vaggelisi have a problem with my usb modem(Crypto adsl modem F200) any ideas?09:16
|meheren|?09:16
Absenth|meheren|,  if you disable the device in the network configuration, it "should" "maybe09:16
Absenth be safe to remove.09:16
tekeoand how to get !mp3?09:16
|meheren|ok09:16
topylii want to build topylibuntu for my colleagues at work. ubuntu, a relevant choice of packages, a theme of my choice. is this possible for the common man?09:16
trappist|meheren|: /etc/init.d/pcmcia stop09:16
onkarshindetekeo: What do you want to do?09:16
thoreauputicahoora: maybe you would get more help in a C++ channel09:16
JamesOnk, I posted the message I received after typing "sudo apt-get update" to the pastebin, should be up there now.09:17
tekeoplay mp3 files from a sata (ntfs) drive with my ordinary user09:17
ahoorano help there as well :|09:17
Absenth!tell kekeo about mp309:17
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theblueHi all.09:17
Absenthbah09:17
Absenth!tell tekeo about mp309:17
trappistwe should just put !mp3 on a 1-minute cron09:17
ahooramehran tavakol bar khoda kon bekesh biroon ye chizi mishe dige :D09:17
Seveas!tell tekeo about ntfs09:18
Seveasahoora, stick to english in here09:18
topyliyeah there's another one09:18
x86iStupid question. I installed Ubuntu using the09:18
onkarshindetekeo: See if gstreamer0.8-mad package is installed.09:18
vaggelisanyone who can help me?09:18
thoreauputic*sigh* weekends are getting worse09:18
Absenthtrappist,  that's an AWESOME idea :)09:18
ahoorasir yes sir09:19
x86iStupid question. I installed Ubuntu using the 'server' option, did what I was playing around with, now I want gnome. I've installed with 'apt-get install gnome-core' , now how do I start it?09:19
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erUSULvaggelis, ask09:19
Ngx86i: install ubuntu-desktop09:19
Absenthx86i,  sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop09:19
thoreauputicahoora: pay attention to the ops :)09:19
matwvaggelis: go ahead and ask your question09:19
x86iah09:19
onkarshindeJames: Comment out backport url. Close Synaptic09:19
fatehazeTo install SDL I need libsdl, right?09:19
oidiaa graphical ftp server?09:19
Jamesokay, I have done both09:19
erUSULx86i, better install ubuntu-desktop09:19
x86ithanks, was unaware of that option09:19
Absenthx86i,  insert an "install" between apt-get and ubuntu desktop09:19
tekeohadn't that one installed09:20
onkarshindejames try 'sudo apt-get update' again09:20
vaggelisi have a problem with my modem Crypto adsl modem F20009:20
Jamesok!09:20
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Absenthx86i,  also you have the option of xubuntu-desktop (xfce4) and kubuntu-desktop (kde)09:20
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vaggelisi canot make it work in ubuntu09:20
Van-atworksomeone nknow why ubuntu doesnt detectd my hardisk SCSI with raid5 during the installation. icant partition hardisk. thanks you09:20
Van-atworkit seem to miss some raid module on the CD installation09:20
theblueI'm trying to share a Lexmark 3200 printer on a network, attached to the only parallel port on my system, how would I go about doing this with just the commandline?09:20
x86iWhere might I have found that package, without asking? I didnt see it in the documention09:20
AbsenthVan-atwork,  Which raid card do you have09:20
JamesOnk - E: Type 'universe' is not known on line 35 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list   ..... I will comment that out, I guess09:20
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erUSULoidia, pureftpd09:21
oidiaanyone know a ftp server with a graphical interface?09:21
onkarshindeJames: Instead paste your sources.list in pastebin09:21
oidiatnx09:21
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JamesOnk - OK, just a second09:21
topylioidia: why would a server have a gui?09:21
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jareth_oidia: gftp09:21
x86iAnother question, to add to my previous. Is there an option to install the ubuntu desktop without all the applications already there?09:22
jareth_oop... sorry09:22
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AbsenthVan-atwork, kinda hard to help if you don't answer questions critical to the troubleshooting process.09:22
JemtHi. I' running Apache2 with PHP5 on my Breezy installation. Unfortunately it is not running very well. When I use the PHP function 'file_get_contents()' I get this error : 'php_network_getaddress: getaddrinfo failed: Temporary failure in name resolution in /var/www/test.php on line 6'. Is there someone who can help me with this odd problem? The PHP script works great on my web hotel.09:22
onkarshindeoidia: Install proftpd and then webmin-proftpd09:22
nagualHow can i change permissions on a directory to say all read write execute.09:22
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|meheren|so i disabled it now it should be safe to remove right?09:22
trappistnagual: chmod a+rwx09:22
JamesOnk - I have pasted my sources list.  It looks like maybe there was a line-wrap thing, and I should have commented those out too.  (Sorry, I'm new at this.)09:22
puffI just found this wonderfully annoying image (http://www.myblog.fr/images/articles/img_8406_55938_1.jpg), I'd like to add it to my screensaver options.  How do I do this?09:23
topylix86i: desktop, no apps? perhaps installing gnome-core or something09:23
x86itopyli: I've done the apt-get install gnome-core , but I cant start it.09:23
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nagualtrappist, will that change permissions on all subdirectories too?09:24
holycownovel is hacking away their suse desktop stuff09:24
holycowthank god09:24
trappistnagual: chmod -R a+rwx09:24
topylix86i: i guess it doesn't install a proper X. try installing x-window-system or some such metapackage also09:24
holycowthey should be offering support for ubuntu frankly09:24
tekeosome media could not be loaded09:24
tekeoetc etc09:24
onkarshindeJames: You see your sources.list hasn't changed at all. Change all occurances of hoary with breezy09:24
tekeoI think something is wrong with SATA09:24
holycowthey have the infrastructure to offer deep services09:24
erUSULnagual, chmod -R (for recursive)09:24
onkarshindeJames: Except in first line09:25
vaggeliswhere can i find information about Crypto USB ADSL modem?09:25
Jameser, oh, I thought it was for that one part only.  okay, I will try that too -- leaving the CD line aside for now09:25
Absenthholycow, but they would have a hard time explaining to the share holders why they are offering support (which costs money) on a product the stand to make less then a dime on.09:25
onkarshindeJames: Do you have Breezy CD?09:25
Jamesno09:25
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onkarshindeJames: It will make upgrade less time consuming09:25
PJeremydoes anyone know what to do so that the ctrl keys can be used to select several files in kubuntu?09:25
x86itopyli: Hrm, thanks. I guess I was looking for an overly simple way to get the Ubuntu Desktop, with all the admin features, but minus the 'apps'09:26
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JamesOnk - yes, I know that the CD would simplify things, but Hoary won't let me burn CD's for some reason.  It's yet another headache, but not what I'm after today.09:26
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erUSULPJeremy, nothing they Just Work (tm)09:26
hawkingI have a laptop and when I try to install breezy in it everything goes fine in the install. I install it remove the CD and when I boot the computer from the hd hotplug gets stuck ... I have waited for hours tryed again and again but nothing happened... any ideas?09:26
onkarshindex86i: Do you mean server installation?09:26
topylix86i: the admin features are there without X :)09:27
_basicis there a guide anywhere for getting jdk 5.0 + swt + eclipse running under ubuntu? i got eclipse+5.0 working, but i dont have any of the swt libraries and i need them to make the gui09:27
vaggelisNOone?????????????? i am new09:27
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theblueHow do I set eth1 to always have a static IP address, using the command line?09:27
oidiaand then? onkarshinde to administrate it? whitch port?09:27
x86itopyli: Well, I mean like the Synaptics, and all that stuff. Just didnt wanna have all those games installed, dont need any audio software.09:27
topylivaggelis: i searched google for your modem and it seems to be nothing but trouble. you need to get a real ethernet modem09:28
PJeremyerUSUL: well, it doesn't in breezy for me. it did in hoary.09:28
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vaggelislike what?09:28
onkarshindeoidia: I am not sure. It must be port 80 with url like http://localhost/webmin or similar.09:28
topylix86i: aptitude does the same thing in console09:28
_basicanyone?09:28
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theblueIn the console, how do I set eth1 to have a static IP of 10.10.10.1?09:29
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JamesOnk - I changed all occurrences of "Hoary" to "Breezy" (with the exception of the CD, which I don't have (yet)).  Am now running "sudo apt-get update"09:29
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_basicanyone?09:29
hawkingplease help me09:29
Absenththeblue,  it's an "sudo ifconfig" string.09:29
vaggelistopyli like what?09:29
hawkingI really have to get ubuntu working on my laptop09:29
x86itopyli: I know, its more to the point, I want the Gnome GUI, without the uneeded apps. Im installing it on my laptop, I have limited space. Was hoping I could choose what gets installed.09:30
theblueAbsenth: Ah, thanks!09:30
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topylivaggelis: like any real ethernet-aware non-usb adsl modem09:30
Absenththeblue, unfortunatly, I'm having a dificult time pulling up the command line to get the correct syntax for you.09:30
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onkarshinde_basic: Either download everything from Ubuntu or from original work. I mean there is Java implementation in GCC but it is not 5.0. Similar for SWT09:30
Jameshawking, I am too new to give you any advice-- but if it's consolation, my install was a bitch too.  but it works now.09:30
vaggelistopyli tell me one that can work with ubuntu09:30
theblueAbsenth: By the way, were you aware of virtual consoles?09:30
_basiconkarshinde: what do you mean? i could suffice with 1.4.2 if it lets me use swt09:30
Absenththeblue,  if you're willing to read the man page.....  man ifconfig is what I was going to use to determine the exact method.09:31
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topylix86i: not really. you can use the "server" install of course, and then add what you want just like in debian. well, that's what you're doing right now?09:31
theblueAbsenth: Ok, thanks.09:31
Absenththeblue, currently in the midst of a dist-upgrade.  the computer is currently only 1/2 live.09:31
theblueAbsenth: Ah, I see.09:31
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theblueGood luck with Breezy, Absenth.09:31
Van-atworkwhats diferent withween breezy version and 5.1009:31
x86itopyli: Aye, I was hoping gnome-core would do it, but it doesnt seem to have x or anything09:31
_jasonhey guys I have a question conerning hdparm.  If I add a line to enable dma for my drive I should precede each line with # signs correct?  (The wiki does not indicate this, which is why I am asking)09:32
dabaR__Van-atwork: its synonymous09:32
onkarshinde_basic: I mean. You can install gcc implementation of Java. Then there is also SWT available.09:32
Van-atworko-O09:32
Van-atworkah...09:32
Absenththeblue,  I've got breezy in a couple of vmware machines, and on the desktop at home.09:32
_basiconkarshinde: would you mind walking me through that in a PM09:32
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ahoorais it possible for someone to zip  /usr/include/c++/3.3/backward/*.h and send them to me via email ? .... i have lost them09:32
AbsenthVan-atwork, you never did tell me what kind of raid card you're trying to use in uubntu09:32
topylivaggelis: hrmpf. well, i have a <topyli looks> telewell something. but they make good and bad modems. ask the salesperson if it works with linux or not09:32
Van-atworkmy ubuntu breezy seem not want to detecte my dell scsi hard disk09:32
Van-atworkits a dell poweredge one09:32
Van-atworksorry. i was on google trying to get to help09:33
Absenthso an LSI scsi controller, WITH or WITHOUT raid?09:33
Van-atworkis it raid 509:33
topylivaggelis: my modem is buried very deep because i never have to touch it or look at it :)09:33
Van-atworkcontroller raid09:33
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Jamesgeneral question: now that I have updated my source list to refer only to Breezy, and have run "sudo apt-get update," is that it?  Am I done upgrading to Breezy?09:33
Van-atworkscsi controller with controller raid09:33
AbsenthVan-atwork, if firefox wasn't broken I'd help you look :(09:33
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Van-atworko_O09:34
topylix86i: gnome doesn't mean X. you can run X apps to run them on a remote X server. X is a network protocol, remember? =)09:34
Van-atwork='(09:34
AbsenthVan-atwork, I know that card DOES work on CentOS409:34
onkarshindeJames: No that just updates the list of what is to be updated. Now do 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'09:34
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AbsenthVan-atwork, Hoever I'm not sure the driver is built into the installation process in Ubuntu.....09:34
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vaggelisok bye09:34
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paxmasterhow would i find out which of my type drive is using dev/???09:35
JamesOnk - okay!09:35
dabaR__paxmaster: rephrase09:35
Jamesyikes an extra 200 megs.. but okay!09:35
Absenthanyone know roughly how much more I have to wait during dist-upgrade if it's currently rebuiling perl?09:35
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bolrodhow fast is your computer09:35
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JamesOnkarshinde, thank you very much for helping me out.  I appreciate it!09:36
Absenth1.7 pentium m09:36
bolroddunno :p09:36
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hexman4hey.. is there a way for me to change the defaults so that when i open movies via the gui, it opens with another movie player (ex. vlc)09:36
paxmasteri just a backup type drive and I don't know which drive it use for example /dev/??09:36
_jasonhexman4:  right click and go to properties09:36
Mqueuecan anyone help me with mysql.connect() error please :)09:36
MqueueFatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/apache2-default/testphp.php09:36
Absenthpaxmaster, internal?09:36
bolrodyou have php-mysql or something?09:36
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bolroddont know the package name :x09:37
Absenthpaxmaster, primary ide, or secondary ide.  first or second drive09:37
jthey all09:37
iiiears modprobe -l | grep saa1734              Is this the right Syntax?09:37
Mqueue<bolrod> yea09:37
bolrodphp4-mysql - MySQL module for php409:37
Mqueueyea i have that09:37
hexman4_jason: k.. thanks09:37
jtiiiears , for checking for a saa1734 module09:37
_jasonhexman4:  np09:37
bolrodhtm09:37
paxmasterscsi external09:37
iiiearsjt - yes09:38
jtyes09:38
iiiearsThank You jt :009:38
iiiears:)09:38
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Mqueue<bolrod> php4-mysql is already the newest version.09:38
jtiiiears , if you do not find what you want that way... lsmod |less09:38
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bolrodmaybe you're using php5 ?09:38
Mqueue<bolrod> yea i'm ?09:38
paxmasterhttp://www.usbshop.com/lacait5013ex.html this is the type drive that I am using09:38
Mqueue<bolrod> what's wrong with that ?09:38
x86itopyli: Thanks for the help, I figured out what Im trying to do. I was making it too complicated in my head lol. I just installed -gnome-core and -x-system-core09:39
iiiearsjt - Thanks again :) - Always more to learn here.09:39
bolrodif you are using php5.. you need to get the php5-mysql09:39
bolrod:)09:39
jtiiiears , yep np..09:39
jt:)09:39
bolrodI guess09:39
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Mqueuehmm..let me check again09:39
paxmasterI nerver did a backup with a type I use to do a backup with dvd-r09:39
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paxmasterAbsenth: is a external drive u could the pic http://www.usbshop.com/lacait5013ex.html09:40
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dabaR__paxmaster: what is your first language?09:41
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jt!kernel09:41
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ahoorais it possible for someone to zip  /usr/include/c++/3.3/backward/*.h and send them to me via email ? .... i have lost them09:41
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Absenthpaxmaster, you "might" be able to click system, administration, disks09:42
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bolrodahoora: arent they in some package?09:42
paxmasterurdu09:42
jt!kernel09:42
Absenthpaxmaster, with any luck it might list your drive.....  if it does it will show you which /dev/xyz# it's located at.09:42
bolrodMqueue: you had the php5-mysql?09:42
dabaR__jt !+kernel if you are trying to tell the channel.09:43
trappistahoora: apt-get install --reinstall libstdc++5-3.3-dev09:43
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paxmasterlol i am not using any gui only command line09:43
jtdabaR__ , nope...i had flood protection on09:43
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Absenthpaxmaster, yeah, I'm not real sure with usb devices at the command line, sorry :(09:43
compDoAre there any tools to play music files in the ape format?09:43
james-t!+kernel09:44
ubotuThe latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.6.1409:44
ubotuThe latest snapshot for the stable Linux kernel tree is: 2.6.14-git709:44
ubotuThe latest 2.4 version of the Linux kernel is: 2.4.3109:44
ubotuThe latest prepatch for the 2.4 Linux kernel tree is: 2.4.32-rc209:44
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ubotuThe latest 2.2 version of the Linux kernel is: 2.2.2609:44
ubotuThe latest prepatch for the 2.2 Linux kernel tree is: 2.2.27-rc209:44
ubotuThe latest 2.0 version of the Linux kernel is: 2.0.4009:44
ubotuThe latest -ac patch to the stable Linux kernels is: 2.6.11-ac709:44
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paxmasterthx anyway09:44
trappistthat sucks.09:44
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james-tanyone using mortons patch?09:44
dabaR__omg, ubotu !!09:44
hawkinggo ubotu!09:44
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james-tSilencer ,hi09:45
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Silencerjames09:45
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Silencerjames-t,09:45
ahooratrappist : couldn't find package libstdc++5-3.3-de09:45
Silencerwho ever u are I don't know u :)09:45
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Silenceranyway09:46
Silencerhi09:46
james-tSilencer , :-D i thought you were a bot09:46
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trappistahoora: did you miss the v?09:46
tiglionabbitMy lappy freezes when I try to wake it up from hibernation: "resume= should be used to set suspend device"09:46
SilencerWhy everyone09:46
bolrodlibstdc++5-3.3-dev - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (development files)09:46
Silencerthink I'm bot ?????09:46
Silencerhere09:46
bolrod?09:46
james-ti think it was because last night i was getting responses from a bot with yoru nick!09:47
Silenceru mean !define shit09:47
trappistahoora: sudo apt-get install libstdc++-dev and choose the appropriate 3.3 version from the list.09:47
Silencer!define example09:47
Silencer!define example09:47
ubotuSilencer: Are you smoking crack?09:47
Silencer-example-09:47
Silencern 1: an item of information that is representative of a type; "this patient provides a typical example of the syndrome"; "there is an example on page 10"  2: a representative form or pattern; "I profited from his example"  3: something to be imitated; "an exemplar of success"; "a model of clarity"; "he is the very model of a modern major general"  4: punishment intended as a warning to others; "they decided to make an example of him"  509:47
james-tHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA09:47
Silencerno I didn't smoke :)09:47
Silencercrack09:47
_jason!botabuse09:47
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.09:47
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bolrod:)09:48
SilencerI'm not09:48
Silencerbot09:48
Silencerppl09:48
Silencer:)09:48
ahooratrappist you are the best :D09:48
Silencerdamn :)09:48
klerkis it possible to have the ubuntu iso extracted onto a different fat32 partition and install it from there?09:48
bolrodwhy did you port to dict then ?09:48
SilencerI'm real man09:48
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Silencerwell to define something if I don't understand09:48
AbsenthSilencer, are you saying bots aren't real?09:48
SilencerAbsenth, well they are machines09:49
Absenthheh09:49
Silencer:)09:49
SilencerI'm man a real man :)09:49
bolrodklerk: I think you can load iso's in the installer09:49
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Absenthsweet, dist-upgrade doen.09:49
Absenthdone.09:49
bolrodso you don't 'have' to extract09:49
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Absenthnow for a kernel patch, and I can reboot.09:49
bolrodanyway.. I don't know this for sure.. I think I saw it in the install09:49
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topyliSilencer: for a "real man" you make little sense. i'd rather do M-x doctor-mode09:50
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bolrod?09:50
klerkbolrod, oh ok... so how do i get to the installer? all i have is the downloaded ISO ansd i dont have a cd burner09:50
tiglionabbitguys, can someone tell me how to make my laptop suspend/resume properly?09:50
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x86iand, bots have feelings, your insensitive clod@09:50
Silenceromg :)09:50
bolrodklerk: owh09:50
SilencerI'm not real pearson09:50
TheblueHi again.09:50
JuhazdabaR__, I've yet to see a program that doesn't require a machine to run09:50
SilencerI'm machine :(09:50
bolrodklerk: some boot over network?09:50
Absenthto install the 686 kernel, I'd choose the "linux-686" package from synaptic?09:50
bolrodfloppy?...  does ubuntu have that?09:50
james-tAbsenth , build it yourself!09:51
x86ilol09:51
bolrodessential installer things installed on floppy.. .like fat32 .. and installer.. then load the iso ?09:51
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AbsenthJames-t, that takes more time then I have between now and when I have to leave for the CoLo09:51
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onkarshinde!eclipse09:51
ubotuto install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE09:51
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james-tAbsenth , why...dl the stuff and just make all && make install && make modules_install09:52
klerkbolrod, yeah ive been looking for a ubuntu image file to boot from floppy but cant find anything09:52
bolrodI know debian has09:52
onkarshinde!swt09:52
ubotuonkarshinde: What?09:52
AbsenthJames-t, compile times.09:52
topylibolrod: i don't think ubuntu can be installed without a CD. install the base of debian woody and upgrade :)09:52
james-tAbsenth , ok09:52
bolrodtopyli: the base isn't on the floppy I think09:52
bolrodonly the installer09:52
Absenthso back to my origional question, is that the correct package?09:52
mustard5Absenth, it's much easier via synaptic :)09:52
bolrodthe rest will be downloaded09:52
bolrodI guess09:52
mustard5Absenth, yes09:52
topylibolrod: that's right. but at least they _have_ floppies09:53
bolrod(or read from harddisk)09:53
Absenthmustard5, I agree.09:53
Absenthmustard5, I'll compile a kernel for the desktop at home.  on the laptop I honestly don't care that much :)09:53
bolrodmaybe you can configure the bootloader to run the installer from harddisk    ?09:53
TheblueI have an oddball 802.11g card (Hawking Technologies), and I'm trying to install Hoary with it, but it refuses to connect to the DHCP server on my router.09:53
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KjetilKI have a Debian sarge system and a kubuntu CD, and I want to build a list of packages that are in my /var/log/popularity-contest but not on the CD, that would fit on my 1GB memory stick...09:55
KjetilKI asked a bit about this earlier today too, but have since then found that apt-zip doesn't really do what's needed09:55
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KjetilKany further ideas...?09:55
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rrtying to get via unichrome to work in breezy09:57
fatehazeWhat package do I need for gmake?09:58
CarlFKi want to hook a box to DSL that uses PPPoE user/pass - where do I put the user/pw?09:58
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electron_hi09:58
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electron_How can I make my computer cache ALL urls visited?09:58
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trappistKjetilK: what exactly should end up on your stick?  the packages themselves?09:59
KjetilKtrappist: yup09:59
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erUSUL_fatehaze, gmake? in linux system gmake is make09:59
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LjLelectron_: what do you mean? web cache, or something else?09:59
electron_webcache09:59
KjetilKtrappist: so I could bring them home and not stress my not-very-fast connection more than necessary10:00
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trappistKjetilK: you should just write a little script.  I don't have a /var/log/popularity-contest, so I don't know the format of the file to give you a starting point.10:00
LjLelectron_: hmm i'm not sure what you're thinking about, 'cause as far as i know, any web browser keeps a cache of visited pages10:00
fatehazeAh, ok10:00
electron_Im using Ubuntu box as a server, so when I visit a url on a client pc, I want it to be cached on the server so it loads faster10:00
LjLelectron_: oh, i see10:00
KjetilKtrappist: yup, the format is straightforward10:00
LjLelectron_: well, you should install a caching proxy on the server then10:00
trappistelectron_: set up a squid proxy on your gateway machine10:00
jtwooohooo making the new kernel10:00
electron_like?10:00
electron_okay10:00
KjetilKtrappist: the problem is really resolving dependencies10:01
erUSUL_electron_, use a proxy squid is the default here10:01
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redflamesHi, just installed Breezy Badger and I seem to have a problem with GRUB... I only get "error 17". Any ideas anyone?10:01
LjLelectron_: i've had limited success using middleman, a relatively easy-to-use proxy that also *pre*caches, i.e. starts downloading pages that are linked from a visited page *before* the user clicks on them10:01
LjLelectron_: i'm not sure if i've explained it decently10:01
jtredflames , well depends10:01
jtredflames , what is it saying10:01
jtother than error 1710:01
LjLelectron_: squid is also an option, of course, but i do think it's quite hard configuring10:01
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electron_LjL, I'm a BSD user so it should be fairly easy ;)10:02
trappistKjetilK: you could use apt-get -d, which would download the files, once you have the list assembled.  they'd go to /var/cache/apt/archives by default, which you could clean out first10:02
KjetilKtrappist: ah, that sounds like a start, yes10:02
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james-telectron_ , BSD isn't as bad as it used to be :/10:02
redflamesNothing jt10:03
electron_bad? lol10:03
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LjLelectron_: OK. anyway, i'd suggest you do look at the possibility of pre-caching (wether by using middleman, squid or something else that can do it)... if you need pages and stuff loading quicktly, pre-caching is a neat idea10:03
james-twith configuring10:03
electron_Have you ever used OpenVMS?10:03
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james-ti love freebsd10:03
electron_I run OpenVMS on my DEC Alpha ^_^10:03
KjetilKis there a list of the packages on the kubuntu CD somewhere?10:03
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thirsoKjetilK: you want to install kde?10:04
KjetilKthirso: yup10:04
LjLapt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:04
redflamesI start the computer, getting past the bios etc. then "Grub loading, pleasse wait... ERROR 17" freeze...10:04
thirsoyeah :p10:04
LjLshould give you all the packages that are installed by default from the cd10:04
panzarwhat's the difference between apt-get kde and using kubuntu?10:04
KjetilKLjL: yup, easy enough10:04
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RezDawgWas wondering if someone knows if I can get my bookmarks in windows and have them for firefox for linux?10:04
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bashHello10:05
panzarRezDawg: firefox in windows too?10:05
LjLpanzar: well, kubuntu has a pre-defined choice of packages (not that you can't change that choice later, it's just a choice that's made for you for convenience)10:05
RezDawgpanzar: yes10:05
LjLpanzar: but you can certainly build your own kde environment by installing things one by one, as you like10:05
KjetilKLjL: the issue isn't KDE and stuff, it is more that I use the box as a development platform10:05
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panzarLjL: ok.10:05
KjetilKso, it is more apache1, libapache-mod-*10:05
bashI am new to Ubuntu Can I run Apllications designed for Windows in this operating system?10:06
electron_wtf is kubuntu10:06
welpubuntu with KDE10:06
LjLbash: yes, by installing Wine. not all apps will work, though10:06
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LjLbash: aptitude install wine10:06
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bashWhere can I find Wine?10:06
RezDawgbash: kind of, there's an emulation program called wine10:06
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panzari'm having some problems with my current madwifi-driver (atheros), i get disconnected from the wlan after a while. which is the best way to install another madwifi version in ubuntu?10:06
LjLbash: also, aptitude install xwine for a graphical configuration interface10:07
erUSUL_electron_, ubuntu with kde instead of gnome10:07
electron_erUSUL_, GAY!.10:07
electron_<3 Blackbox!10:07
RezDawgWas wondering if someone knows if I can get my bookmarks from firefox in windows and have them for firefox for linux?10:07
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netdurhow do I send something to my phone via bluetooth... I installed gnome-bluetooth but I can receive only10:07
bashWhere do I find it?10:07
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LjLKjetilK: do you currently *have* the kubuntu cd?10:08
VorpulusHello. I wiped windows from my computer yesterday and installed ubuntu. I'm finding it really difficult to install everything. I find command lines to put in the console such as: sudo apt-get install java-package java-common , but they hardly ever work10:08
LjLbash: i've told you, "aptitude install wine"10:08
Taa5iCan someone recommend a good text-editor to use?  Ideally with mdi [eg tabbed] , and not using KDE.10:08
erUSUL_RezDawg, yes export it in win and import them in linux10:08
VorpulusCan anyone help?10:08
farruinnTaa5i: vim is the only text editor :P10:08
LjLbash: go to a terminal and type that10:08
trappistTaa5i: gvim if you're looking for a gui editor10:09
VorpulusI have honestly been trying hard to sort it out10:09
KjetilKLjL: yep10:09
erUSUL_Vorpulus, use synaptic10:09
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RezDawgerUSUL_, i exported from win but i cant seem to find import here in linux10:09
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CarlFKVorpulus: one problem at a time.  what do you want to install?10:09
VorpulusI couldn't find java-package in synaptic10:09
smarcoTaa5i, scite, gui and can run any code10:09
Vorpuluswell I'm trying to install java rigth now10:09
Vorpulusright*10:09
erUSUL_RezDawg, is the same as in win10:09
Taa5ismarco: Thank you, I'll take a look at that.  vi always scared me, I couldn't even figure out how to exit it.10:09
erUSUL_!tell Vorpulus about repos10:10
trappistRezDawg: bookmarks -> manage bookmarks10:10
LjLKjetilK: well... "apt-cache pkgnames" will show the names of all available packages. if you go to /etc/apt/source.list, then comment out everything but the Kubuntu CD, then do "apt-get update", then "apt-cache pkgnames", you should get a terse list of all packages in the Kubuntu CD10:10
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RezDawgtrappist, ty, in windows its file>export and i was looking there10:11
KjetilKLjL: Hmmm, right. But the problem here is that all the operations, up to doing the install itself, will happen on Debian Sarge systems...10:11
naliothhawking: you hit it right on the head10:11
trappistRezDawg: I know what you mean :)10:11
hawkingwhy does hotplug gets stuck when ubuntu is installed on a laptop?10:11
KjetilKhmmm10:11
hawkingnalioth: go have fun with someone else jerk10:11
Mqueuewhat is the difference between php5 woody packages & ubuntu packages ?10:12
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LjLKjetilK: i see... but, still, since APT is APT on both Debian and Ubuntu, you should be able to put the Kubuntu CD in sources.list even on a Debian machine, and do what i described there... shouldn't you?10:12
KjetilKyup10:12
KjetilKprobably10:12
naliothhawking: excuse me? you made a point of nobody answering you, i confirmed it.10:12
naliothhawking: please be polite10:12
LjLKjetilK: the line is "deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted", in case you don't have it handy10:12
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hawkingnalioth : sorry I am damn angry I have been trying whole day10:12
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Jameshawking - it works for me.10:13
hawkingnalioth : misunderstood10:13
jorggwhat program can i use to connect to DC-hubs?10:13
KjetilKLjL: thanks a lot, I was looking for exactly that! :-)10:13
hawkingJames: what's ur laptop?10:13
JamesToshiba Satellite of some kind.10:13
LjLKjetilK: np10:13
JamesI know nothing about Ubuntu, but I know that at least on some systems it works.10:13
VorpuluserUSUL, what do I do with that webpage?10:13
hawkinghmm well people say it is a nice distro for laptops but it doesn't work on most laptops10:14
JamesI'd recommend posting to one of the Ubuntu forums -- 5.10 maybe-- as hardware support or installation folders.10:14
VorpulusCarl are you there?10:14
Jamesin order to install mine, I had to put it in the freezer next to the ice cream so it wouldn't overheat10:14
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Jamesbut after that, it worked okay.10:14
VorpulusI've tried all sorts of stuff on synaptic10:14
Vorpulusin fact I installed everything on it10:14
panzari'm having some problems with my current madwifi-driver (atheros), i get disconnected from the wlan after a while. which is the best way to install another madwifi version in ubuntu?10:14
Vorpulusand then I selected all the repositries.... then I removed some....10:15
Vorpulusin fact it's probably a complete mess right now10:15
erUSUL_Vorpulus, you need to add all reositories to get acces through synapic to a lot of software10:15
hawkingis there a forum for ubuntu where I can ask questions and hope to get an answer which I can't get here?10:15
Vorpulusoh ok erUSUL, I understand10:15
dabaR__Vorpulus: are you faced with not being able to do something now that you would like to?10:15
_jasonhawking:  http://www.linuxprinting.org10:15
_jasonerr sorry10:15
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_jasondidnt copy10:15
Vorpulusand that webpage you gave had a list of them?10:15
_jasonhawking:  http://ubuntuforums.org/10:15
hawking_jason : thanks10:16
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naliothhawking: help.ubuntu.com10:16
LjLKjetilK: but, wait a moment, you do realize that nistalling Ubuntu over Debian could break things, right? i'm not sure if i understood you correctly, but if that's what you're intending to do, then well, you may have a couple of problems...10:16
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sunshine82alt delete how do i force quit in ubuntu10:16
LjLsunshine82: quit from what?10:16
runedudei got a few comments10:16
runedudefirst of all10:16
KjetilKLjL: np, I have a new disk I just bought, the old disk will be untouched10:16
Taa5iIs it difficult to add video card support to a kernel in ubuntu?  It is using the vesa driver right now on a 2m card, but I want to install a riva tnt2 for it to use instead so I can get decent resolution.10:16
runedudeubuntu breezy == kick ass10:16
runedude:)10:16
LjLKjetilK: ok10:16
dabaR__sunshine82: force quit what?10:17
runedudesecond: amd64 works REALLY nice10:17
runedudeubuntus 64bit support works perfectly for me10:17
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VorpuluserUSUL, I also get this message when I start up synaptic:10:17
Vorpulusin fact I get loads of them10:17
BamaWOLFare there issues with firewire drives or something, because it refuses to mount my fw HD10:17
runedudeand it was my first time using a 64bit operating system10:17
VorpulusW: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists10:17
ascii1hi10:17
ascii1dude10:17
dabaR__Vorpulus: dont paste here, paste at paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:17
ascii1how is life10:17
sunshine82i would like to force an application to when i was on windows i press ctrl alt and delete but how do i force quit in ubuntu10:17
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ascii1nice nice10:18
ascii1I am aciii10:18
runedudesunshine82: i guess im terminal do ps aux | grep program then kill pid10:18
ascii1rock and roll babys10:18
erUSUL_Taa5i, use the nv driver instead of vesa. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:18
naliothsunshine82: alt-f2, type xkill and the next thing your mouse touches will go away10:18
ascii1dude man10:18
VorpulusOK, but do you know how to get rid of that problem dabaR?10:18
jorggwhat program can i use to connect to DC-hubs?10:18
ascii1what u talking about10:18
CarlFKLinux box hooked directly to SBC dsl - where do I put the PPPoE user/pw ?10:18
LjLsunshine: well, i usually do it from the console (using ps aux and kill), but in KDE at least, clicking on the X button on a window will kill the application if it doesn't quit by itself after a certain time10:18
dabaR__nalioth: please get ridf of him10:18
ascii1use FreeBSD10:18
erUSUL_sunshine82, xkill10:18
LjLsunshine: also, i don't remember whether in KDE or Gnome, there is an applet you can put on your panels that will let you kill apps10:18
ascii1it overtakes all u linux mushies10:18
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naliothascii1: this is an ubuntu help channel, if you'd like to discuss music, character encoding and other stuff, use #ubuntu-offtopic please10:19
ascii1FreeBSD10:19
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ascii1is GOD!10:19
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runedudefor servers, yeh.10:19
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linkrjhAnybody know how to install a file from Mac source?10:19
linkrjhOr whatever10:19
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dabaR__nalioth: lol@discussing character encoding.10:19
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naliothlinkrjh: explain further, please10:20
LjLsunshine82: actually... i'm in KDE, but i *think* in Gnome you can just right-click on a window or something similar, and there will be a "kill" menu option somewhere10:20
linkrjhI want to run a mac program, and someone changed the filetype so I could see it's content, but it doesn't work like regular from source Linux files10:20
Taa5ierUSUL_: Thank you, I'll try that.  [Do I do this after installing the new card?] 10:20
naliothlinkrjh: is it a mac binary?10:20
erUSUL_Taa5i, which is the new card?10:20
LjLsunshine82: also, in KDE i can do Ctrl+Esc, and a task list will appear, and i can kill tasks from there10:20
linkrjhHow do I check, Nalioth?10:20
Taa5ierUSUL_: The new card is a Riva TNT2, it currently has an Cirrus Logic 5480 which has a max of 800x60010:20
naliothlinkrjh: in  a terminal, type "file mac_file_name.file"10:21
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foxinesswhat you use to test other distro on top of ubuntu ?10:21
_jasonnalioth:  why is it that I define "forums" for ubotu but he returns something else? (on the ubotu website I verified it was set)10:21
runedudehey guys10:21
runedudegot a q10:21
LjLfoxiness: you could use QEmu, if i've understood what you mean10:21
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LjLfoxiness: that's a PC emulator10:21
runedudeWhy is a DVD disk better to install from than a regular CD one?10:21
foxinessLjL, yah i mean like that10:21
nalioth_jason: join #kubuntu-offtopic please10:21
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dabaR__runedude: cause someone has a slower internet connection, and can get a dvd from a friend.10:22
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runedudehm10:22
BamaWOLFit mounts my drive just fine if i connect it with usb, but with fw, it won't even see it10:22
runedudei see10:22
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runedudedabaR__: would the DVD include more packages?10:22
odie5533Why does Ubuntu use evolution and not thunderbird?10:22
LjLfoxiness: you could also use VMWare, which is faster, but not free... also, there is an "accelerator module" for QEmu (look on the QEmu site) that's free, but not open-source10:22
foxinessLjL, i use qemu before but its solw and i know vmware but its so expensve and i think if i can i will try xen10:22
VorpuluserUSUL, do I just copy those lines one by one and paste them into the APT line 'box'?10:22
sunshine82nalioth xkill isnt workin im tryin to get ride of mplayer i change the end name of a file mpg to avi and try to play it now i have 5 mplayer on my screen10:23
dabaR__runedude: would you use a dvd if was not larger than a cd?10:23
erUSUL_Taa5i, then yes run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after installing the card10:23
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mustard5runedude, if you are tallking about the ubuntu DVD, its just a liveCD and install CD combined10:23
runedudedabaR__: dont know10:23
runedudeah10:23
runedudeokay then10:23
runedudenvm :) ill use a regular CD10:23
naliothsunshine82: in a terminal, type "killall mplayer"10:23
LjLfoxiness: you should probably try the QEmu accelerator. VMWare is faster basically because it doesn't emulate the CPU, while QEmu normally does... but with the acceleator module, it doesn't anymore10:23
naliothVorpulus: what are you doing?10:23
Juhazmustard5, runedude, no it's not, the dvd DOES have more packages than the install cd, in addition to having the live included10:23
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sunshine82nalioth it givin me an error no process for mplayer10:23
mustard5Juhaz, its news to me....ok :)10:23
Vorpulusnalioth, well I was initially trying to install java for Mozilla10:23
erUSUL_Vorpulus, edit /etc/apt/sources.list with a text editor and add the lines you do not have10:23
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naliothsunshine82: in a terminal, "ps aux|grep mplayer", find the PIDs and use them to kill it10:24
erUSUL_Vorpulus, you can swap your sources.list with the one in the wiki (make a buckup of yours)10:24
BamaWOLF?10:24
naliothubotu: tell Vorpulus about javadeb10:24
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angelwrattonany nice boys out there plz talk  to me i'm so bored10:25
crimsunangelwratton: way offtopic.10:25
bolrod?10:25
bolrodwhy nice boys?10:25
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naliothangelwratton: look for love in #ubuntu-offtopic please10:26
VorpuluserUSUL, I'm a real newbie... Is that something I find it console?10:26
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linkrjhlinkrjh@ubuntu:~/Yasse$ ls10:26
linkrjhAvalon 3  gpl.txt             __MACOSX    Scripts  yasse-3.2.1.zip10:26
linkrjhAvalon 4  important news.txt  readme.txt  src10:26
linkrjhlinkrjh@ubuntu:~/Yasse$10:26
angelwrattonyou know what bit me10:26
linkrjh=(10:26
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naliothVorpulus: read what ubotu priv messaged you about java10:26
hawkingcan someone help me for a second with a text ? I found some assistance about my laptop but didn't understand a sentence10:26
slewok i've been struggling with the java plugin for firefox for a while now, and even following the directoins on the java webpage it doesnt work. is there a diffrent way to install this plugin?10:26
Vorpulusok nalioth10:26
naliothangelwratton: #ubuntu-offtopic10:26
erUSUL_Vorpulus, yes10:26
bolrodwow.. there is an ubuntu-offtopic too10:26
crimsunslew: what isn't working?10:26
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dabaR__linkrjh: please use pastebin10:27
naliothubotu: tell slew about javadeb10:27
erUSUL_hawking, ask10:27
slewthe java plugin for firefox10:27
hawkingquoting: "one of them was probably kernel related, snd-hda-intel sound module refused to work with my sound controller, and I've googled that this was fixed in 2.6.13-rc3. So I just grabbed vanilla 2.6.13.3 from kernel.org, built it,"10:27
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crimsunslew: have you read the faq that nalioth just pointed you to?10:27
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hawkingerusul_: what is meant with vanilla 2.6.13.3?10:27
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crimsunhawking: it's the third patchlevel for 2.6.1310:27
ToranHow would I install a gtk theme in kubuntu?10:27
erUSUL_hawking, vanilla is the kernel from kernel.org10:28
naliothslew: check your messages10:28
erUSUL_hawking, whithout ubuntu patches10:28
hawkingcrimsun : hmm so can you tell me what exactly should I download?10:28
slewnalioth, im waiting for the page to load..10:28
hawkingI don't want to do anythin wrong10:28
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|meheren|hi i was wondering what you would put instead of spaces in the terminal when the file name has spaces10:28
bolrod\10:29
bolrodbefore the space10:29
hawkingerUSUL_: so do i have to get ubuntu patches too?10:29
|meheren|ok thx10:29
fanopnaic|meheren|: like backslash-space10:29
bolrodyes.. escape character10:29
|meheren|ok thx fanopnaic10:29
erUSUL_hawking, no need i use a vanilla kernel myself 2.6.1410:29
bolrod\'  should be a '10:29
naliothubotu: tell |meheren| about cli10:29
bolrodand \(10:29
angelwrattoni'm so bored10:29
bolrodand stuff10:29
bolrodangelwratton: I noticed10:29
bolrodangelwratton: me too10:29
crimsunhawking: you're better off just building alsa-driver 1.0.10rc210:29
angelwrattonlol10:29
bolrodneed some help with something ?... or why are you here10:29
bolrod:)10:30
slewnalioth, this page doesnt seem to load10:30
naliothangelwratton: bolrod: y'all go to #ubuntu-offtopic and be bored together, please10:30
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bolrodI am in #ubuntu-offtopic10:30
mustard5|meheren|, alternatively you could use tab key autocompletion feature of your terminal10:30
foxinessLjL, i have the qemu install it on hoary before i get upgarde on breezy i want to uninstall it ,its not deb its by make make install10:30
naliothslew: it appears his site is down atm10:30
slewsad10:30
slew=[10:30
hawkingcrimsun : well this is a specific problem for my laptop and this text is the only one I have found on the net which has found a solution to that10:30
naliothslew: that deb will fix you up no muss no fuss10:30
slewsweet10:31
hawkingI'll try that first and if not I'll get alsa 1.1010:31
foxinessLjL, and is there easy way to install accelerator on breezy ?10:31
lsuactiafneri have the ubuntu iso but not installed on a cd.. can i make apt-cdrom see it or make apt recognise the iso on a loop device?10:31
crimsunhawking: it's much easier to compile ALSA 1.0.10rc210:31
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_lambexit10:31
hawkingcrimsun : but is it definite that it will solve the prob?10:31
_lambPART #ubuntu10:31
crimsunhawking: what is the problem?10:31
crimsunhawking: you have failed to state it clearly10:31
hav0kdoes anyone know how to set up their ipod?10:31
bolrodwtf..10:31
bolrodyes10:32
lsuactiafnerfoxiness : try prozilla.. though most websites block simultaneous connections these days10:32
foxinesslsuactiafner, i think yes i see my friedn do this with debian10:32
crimsunthere about sixteen major hda-intel issues10:32
sunshine82nalioth ok what the pid i di that aux thing i can see it but how do i kill it10:32
bolrodhav0k: format it in windows... would be easiest I guess10:32
slewnalioth, in the mean time should i delete the java stuff ive tried to install?10:32
angelwrattonhow do i get there it is my frist timeon this chat?10:32
hawkingcrimsun: I install ubuntu without any problems but when I boot it it gets stuck : starting hotplug line on start-up10:32
naliothsunshine82: kill -9 PID10:32
hav0kbolrod, i dont have windows... and how would i format it?10:32
bolrodangelwratton: /join #ubuntu-offtopic10:32
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angelwrattonhow?10:33
naliothslew: if you dont have a use for multiple types of java, yes, otw10:33
bolrodhav0k: I haven't formatted it in linux10:33
foxinesslsuactiafner, accelerator on qemu10:33
naliothubotu: tell slew about multijava10:33
sunshine82nalioth what is -910:33
bolrodhav0k: you could try the qtparted..  easier then parted10:33
hav0kbolrod, so you got yours to work?  cause my roomate has windows...10:33
CaNsAwhat would stop my desktop from loading after logging in?10:33
crimsunhawking: yes, but which of two issues is that?10:33
bolrodoh10:33
bolrodyeah.. I just installed it with windows10:33
slewnalioth, just wanna be able to play pool now and then with my girl on yahoo games.10:33
sunshine82nalioth 26790  0.0  5.2  43392 20456 ?10:33
bolrodalso dont know how to upgrade firmware in linux10:33
foxinesshav0k, i like gparted10:33
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sunshine82nalioth i mean is that need to be replace for somethin else10:33
crimsunhawking: did the kernel OOPS, or is it just spinning trying to enumerate the mixer elements?10:34
mustard5angelwratton, you picked the wrong channel to join for idle chit chat..you are in a technical support channel ;)10:34
hav0kfoxiness, so i should do that with my ipod?  if i do format it, doesnt that take off all the ipod stuff, like firmware?10:34
CaNsAwhat would stop my desktop from loading after logging in?10:34
KjetilKBTW, does anybody know by any chance if I can get to aptitude's list of "obsolete packages" easily?10:34
CaNsAwhat would stop my desktop from loading after logging in?10:34
naliothangelwratton: type /j #ubuntu-offtopic10:34
bolrodhav0k: if you format the wrong partition.. yes10:34
crimsunhawking: in either case, moving to ALSA 1.0.10rc2 resolves it10:34
naliothCaNsA: please watch your enter key10:34
hawkingcrimsun: hmm ok I'll try that10:34
CaNsAk10:34
bolrodhav0k: but I suggest running it with windows before using it with linux10:34
hav0kbolrod, oh, so there should be two partitions on it... one for the firmware and one with the main music stuff10:34
LjLfoxiness: sorry for not replying, i was smoking a cig... anyway, i don't really know about installing the acceleartor on breezy, didn't try. maybe it's in restriced10:34
bolrodhav0k: indeed10:35
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LjLfoxiness: no it doesn't seem to be there, i suppose you should get the stuff from the home page :-\10:35
hav0kbolrod, yeah, i did have it running and working with my windows, but i can't get it to work on here, with say, gtkpod10:35
VorpuluserUSUL, I've found the file and made a backup on my desktop. Can I literally just replace the content of the file with lines 3 to 21 on that website?10:35
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naliothLjL: one needs to get it from the qemu homepage10:35
bolrodhav0k: can you get it mounted?10:35
foxinessLjL, hah10:35
hav0kthe whole linux deal is having a hard time mounting it10:35
hawkingcrimsun : where can i get alsa?10:35
bolrodoh10:35
hav0kexactly, i try to mount it but i town10:35
bolroddoes it connect correctly10:35
Vorpulusnalioth, that link doesn't seem to work10:35
hawkingcrimsun: does the repos have alsa 1.10?10:35
z0undshi do i need to add some special source to download "nero linux" - synaptic says it dosnt have an avaiable version but exist in the database ..10:36
hav0kbolrod, as in, like i plugged it in?10:36
LjLfoxiness: also, i know there is kqemu for configuring qemu graphically under kde (dunno if there's a gnome equivalent), but that's not packaged in ubuntu either10:36
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bolrodhav0k: connect it..  and look in    /var/log/syslog10:36
bolrodor something10:36
lsuactiafnernalioth : last night i was asked what the ubuntu tool to configure the netowkr? the user had to ifconfig after bootup to get the eth0 to work10:36
bolrodno10:36
naliothVorpulus: yes, i've discoverd that. the site appears to be down10:36
bolrod /var/log/messages10:36
hav0kbolrod, okay10:36
crimsunhawking: no, they don't. You have to download it manually.10:36
marie_hello10:36
hawkingcrimsun: from?10:36
naliothlsuactiafner: network-admin10:36
crimsunhawking: you'll need to the build-essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r), and gcc-3.4 packages installed10:36
marie_french10:36
lsuactiafnerthanks10:36
crimsunhawking: alsa-project.org10:36
bolrodhav0k: anyway.. one of those..  tail -f should be easiest10:37
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marie_juuytg10:37
hav0kbolrod, huh?10:37
bolrodangelwratton: hard time having understanding yor irc?10:37
bolrod  tail -f /var/log/messages10:37
hav0kokay10:37
bolrodprobably10:37
Vorpulusnalioth, do you know if I can just replace the stuff in sources.list with the text on the webpage erUSUL gave me?10:37
hawkingcrimsun : th10:37
hawkingx10:37
bolrodif nothing appears.. it was the syslog ;p10:37
foxinessLjL, i will try to install it from source "i dont like this way :(" but some time i can10:37
angelwrattonWHAT?10:37
Vorpulus(am I allowed to post the link in here?)10:37
hav0kwell, in both it say ssd_mod: loaded sucessfully (for disk)10:37
bolrodangelwratton: nothing...10:38
mustard5Vorplus, you talking about source-o-matic generated sources.list?10:38
angelwrattonoh ok10:38
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LjLfoxiness: well, you can't really install everything from source, as there *is* no source for the accelerator module anyway ;)10:38
hawkingcrimsun : and is there a better solution than building the ipw2200 wireless kernel module or is it the only way?10:38
bolrodangelwratton: write thiss     /join #ubuntu-offtopic10:38
|meheren|can you get macromidia flash player for ubuntu?10:38
naliothubotu: tell Vorpulus about sources10:38
|meheren|i checked wiki but can not find it10:38
foxinessLjL, haha10:38
bolrodyes10:38
bolrodjust open some site with flash10:38
Vorpulusmustard5, I have no idea. It's something called pastebin or something10:38
bolrodand firefox asks to download flash10:38
|meheren|oh really?10:38
Vorpulustwo somethings.... sounds bad10:38
crimsunhawking: why do you need to do that? It's already built.10:38
bolrodshockwave doesn't work though10:38
|meheren|ok10:38
hav0kyet when i go to mount it, it says its unable to mount and gives me "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,10:38
hav0k       missing codepage or other error10:38
hav0k       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try10:38
hav0k       dmesg | tail  or so10:38
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naliothhav0k: dont paste in here, please10:39
mustard5Vorpulus, what is the URL of the pastebin you are viewing?10:39
|meheren|so you can't get shckwave?10:39
hav0knalioth, okay10:39
Vorpulushttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/232510:39
|meheren|shockwave?10:39
bolrodno non onono10:39
nalioth|meheren|: shockwave doesnt exist for linux yet10:39
mustard5Vorpulus, looking now..10:39
|meheren|ok10:39
bolrodthe sdb1 is the firmware10:39
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bolrodsdb2 is the one you want10:39
|meheren|what if u use the windows versin with wine?10:39
bolrodI think10:39
hav0kok, well how do i change it?10:39
nalioth|meheren|: then have fun10:39
Vorpulusthanks mustard510:40
|meheren|ok10:40
bolrod|meheren|: anyway... more sites use flash then shockwave10:40
mustard5Vorpulus, just to confirm..you are on breezy?10:40
LjLfoxiness: anyway, there are intel binaries on the site, as .tar.gz... why not give a try with those before going with compile10:40
bolrodbut possibly you 'could'10:40
bolrodbut you dont want that I think10:40
|meheren|yeh i know games use shockwave manly10:40
Vorpulusyes, well... I hope so!10:40
slewnalioth, i got the deb sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb and it says the archive type not supported10:40
dabaR__slew: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb10:40
Seveasslew, sudo dpkg -i sun-jre*.deb10:40
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VorpulusI downloaded it yesterday, and if I understand correctly breezy is the latest version10:40
mustard5Vorpulus, yes10:40
|meheren|yes it is10:40
LjLfoxiness: i mean, there are binaries in the ubuntu "qemu" package too, but i don't quite know if they are compatible with the accel module10:40
VorpulusI'm pretty sure that's what I have10:40
dabaR__Seveas: when is the next ubuntu community meeting?10:40
mustard5Vorpulus, that sources.list is fine to copy directly over your old one10:40
|meheren|Vorpuls: breezy is latest10:40
SeveasdabaR__, see the agenda10:41
bolrodhav0k: you can mount the /dev/sdb2?10:41
Vorpulusyep, so which lines do I copy?10:41
|meheren|arg10:41
hav0kbolrod, ill try10:41
Vorpulusall of them?10:41
naliothslew: in a terminal, type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"10:41
|meheren|im mean10:41
mustard5Vorpulus, all10:41
bolrodmount -t vfat /dev/sdb2 /media/ipod/10:41
|meheren|vurpulus:breezy is latest10:41
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Vorpulusthanks mate10:41
mustard5Vorpulus, come back if you have problems :)10:41
angelwrattonbolrod e-mail me plz at angelwratton18Yahoo.com ok10:41
VorpulusI'm sure I will... :P10:41
mustard5Vorpulus, sources are easy to fix ;)10:41
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tommi^Hi. I made a key with seahorse and now evolution can't decrypt using it and gpg complains gpg: can't connect to "`/tmp//seahorse-HgDVNd/S.gpg-agent': No such file or directory" Argh. What did that seahorse made to my brand new key and how can I fix it? Thanks10:41
bolrodangelwratton: why?10:41
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hav0kbolrod, yeah, that worked10:42
bolrodangelwratton: just write this exactly in your irc screen10:42
angelwrattonplz just e-mail me10:42
foxinessLjL, i have this "qemu" installed on my system from hoary day,and now i need the kqemu10:42
bolrod'/join #ubuntu-offtopic'10:42
bolrodangelwratton: rather not10:42
dabaR__Seveas: damn corporate agenda:))10:42
foxinessLjL, what about xen ?10:42
bolroddont like e-mail10:42
angelwrattonFINE10:42
mustard5Vorpulus, when you change it to a new sources list do a sudo apt-get update  command in your terminal too..to update the package list10:42
LjLfoxiness: never tried it10:42
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bolrodangelwratton: thats indeed fine10:43
VorpulusThat command wasn't working before, mustard510:43
bolrodfine.. hav0k gtkpod works now?10:43
mustard5Vorpulus, do it after you fix your old one10:43
Vorpulusoh ok10:43
LjLfoxiness: the problem with ubuntu's qemu is that i have no idea how to add kqemu to it... but on the other hand, on http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/kqemu-doc.html there are very specific instruction for installing it over the original (source or binary) qemu .tar.gz10:43
LjLfoxiness: so i think it10:43
angelwrattoni'm sorry10:43
bolrodgtkpod is far from convenient... but it works10:43
hav0kbolrod, i dont know, im its kinda frozen under gtkpod... but i can look in local... im thinking maybe its reading?10:44
Vorpulusmustard, the file is opening as read-only?!10:44
LjLfoxiness: so i think it'd be easier to get the .tar.gz than to use the ubuntu package, even if you have it already installed10:44
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bolroderh10:44
bolrodfrozen... ?10:44
hav0kbolrod, yeah, it is reading... its slowly showing up10:44
mustard5Vorpulus, use sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in terminal10:44
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StyXmanhi all10:45
hav0kbolrod, oh, but  wait, im using it also under amaroK and it's working there too... so am i going to have to manuallyl mount it this way everytime?10:45
Alex[RM-UK] Hey,10:45
StyXmananyone tried to use the 2.6.14 kernel in debian sid w/ breezy?10:45
mustard5Vorpulus, basically that command is saying 'with superuser privileges open in gedit the file at /etc/apt/ called sources.list10:45
LjLfoxiness: from the Xen site, i gather than OSes must be (slightly?) modified to work on Xen10:45
StyXmanI get a ``cannot open initial console'' message10:45
hav0kbolrod, or is there some way i can set it up to do it automatically10:45
bolroderh10:45
StyXmanbut I don't have devfs installed and 2,.6.14 does not even support it10:45
LjLfoxiness: so it doesn't quite look like the easiest choice to just test a distro10:45
bolrodmy ipod did mount automatically10:45
bolrodI dont kow why10:45
bolrodknow*10:45
Alex[RM-UK] i'm trying to install the latest Kopete, so I can sign into MSN - but it's not in the new Kubuntu resporities,10:45
Vorpulusohh... so that's what sudo means?10:45
bolrodunder ubuntu that is10:45
bolrodin debian I had to do it manually10:45
Alex[RM-UK] im trying to compile it, but it says:10:46
hav0kbolrod, oh, hahaha, well, i guess ill look into it10:46
VorpulusI've been typing that thing in a lot because it's the only thing that ever works, and now I know why ;)10:46
naliothAlex[RM-UK] : then you'll have to build it from source10:46
autogenerated_heyas10:46
mustard5Vorpulus, sudo is like ' SuperUserDo'10:46
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bolrodthere is some usb-automount or something10:46
Alex[RM-UK] configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH10:46
Alex[RM-UK] See `config.log' for more details.10:46
VorpulusAh I see10:46
bolrodor automount10:46
bolroddont know exaclt10:46
bolrodexactly10:46
sparksYOO!10:46
crimsunStyXman: um, please don't go around randomly installing kernels from other distros10:46
naliothAlex[RM-UK] : install "build-essential"10:46
Vorpulusalright so now I type in that other thing you said...10:46
foxinessLjL, yeah the vmware 5 amazing :)10:46
naliothubotu: tell Alex[RM-UK]  about checkinstall10:46
sparkswho needs some help10:46
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LjLmustard5: in italian, "sudo" means "I'm sweating", and it represents the concept quite well for me ;-)10:47
naliothAlex[RM-UK] : use checkinstall intead of "make install" you'll be happier10:47
mustard5Vorpulus, in your terminal which can be accessed at Applications>>Accessories menu10:47
hav0kbolrod, hmm, i dont konw... i guess ill look around on the internet, and maybe ask some people in this other room im in... they seem to know alot about linux systems in general.  very helpfull10:47
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Toranhey guys, how can I set my cursor theme in fluxbox? I know you can do it in KDE by going to the control center, but I don't know how in fluxbox :-L. I'm on kubuntu10:47
mustard5LjL, hehe10:47
davrohi all, does anyone know of any tutorials about encrypting usbstick, using it like a encrypted partion.10:47
don824chani'm having a problem with Gnome Bittorrent10:47
StyXmancrimsun: ahm, I actually installed the sources and compiled10:47
angelwrattonboys r boring10:47
sparksToran , i believe that there is a fluxbox configuration gui10:47
Vorpulusyep, I've now edited the sources.list file and saved it10:47
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Vorpulusthen I went into console and did sudo apt-get update10:47
StyXmanit's not random; I actually spected it to work...10:47
bolrodhav0k: its not that difficult10:47
Vorpulusit's still coming up with a lot of errors10:47
crimsunStyXman: but are you familiar with Ubuntu's config? If not, you're liable to encounter issues such as the one you just did10:47
sparksdavro , i'm sure google has something...you can do it though10:47
sparksPGP style10:47
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bolrodhav0k: at least your ipod mounts....10:47
mustard5Vorpulus, have you used the pastebin before?10:47
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bolrodin debian I was working under a kernel that didn't support it10:48
Vorpulusmustard, no10:48
titaniumanyone know if the onboard SATA on an asus a7n8x deluxe will support a 300gb sata hdd?10:48
mustard5ubotu: tell Vorpulus about pastebin10:48
Toransparks: that GUI has a setting for the cursor theme?10:48
remyforbes777does anyone know the xpde package name10:48
Torano.O10:48
bolrodso I upgraded the kernel.. which was fine.. then other things broke down.. :p10:48
hav0kbolrod, yeah... ill just have to figure out where the usb-automount file is or whatever.... i know my thumb drive automounts10:48
sparkstitanium , should do10:48
davrosparks: will rollback to google, cheers.10:48
sparksdavro , no problem :)10:48
mustard5Vorpulus, go to the link ubotu sent you and paste your errors in there...then give me the URL10:48
don824chanI'm having a problem with Gnome Bittorrent10:48
Alex[RM-UK] Ok, I did that - now it says:10:48
Alex[RM-UK] checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!10:48
slewnalioth, thanks! that WAS no muss OR fuss. =]  appreciate it.10:48
bolrodhav0k: hrm... well.. should be the same thing..10:48
naliothdon824chan: we need more info than that10:48
bolrodits just another usb drive10:48
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sparksis anyone looking for a kernel upgrade??10:48
crimsunAlex[RM-UK] : what are you trying to build?10:48
don824chanWhenever I try to save a file already in progress that's a folder10:48
naliothAlex[RM-UK] : join #kubuntu-offtopic please10:49
don824chanit just opens the folder10:49
hav0kbolrod, yeah, i guess, but thanks alot for the help... even though it was so simple...hahaha, im not a linux expert yet... or standard user yet... haha10:49
Alex[RM-UK] ah, thought as it was kubuntu ... it would be relevent,10:49
don824chani've tried multiple ways of tricking it into saving over the folder but it always just opens it10:49
bolrodhav0k: most things are really simple10:49
bolrod:)10:49
hav0kha, okay10:49
hav0kyeah10:49
Alex[RM-UK] crimsun, im trying to build Kopete10:49
bolrodlike a simple syntax error.. or type-error :)10:49
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hav0kyeah, that is right, i was trying to set up my printer and the people i was talking to were making it really complicated and i spent like 3 hours trying to do it, but then i just went on google and looked it up and did it in like 10 minutes...10:50
hav0khahaha10:50
topylibolrod: user errors mostly :)10:50
Vorpulusmustard5, do I just put the text in with my name and click send?10:50
duke3zgotta love google :)10:50
StyXmancrimsun: I made a make oldconfig over a previous .config file from 2.6.11 which does work10:50
bolrodERROR: PEBKAC10:50
bolrod;p10:50
dmoyneHello ! ; with this config : Motherboard AMD MSI K8N Neo 4F (socket 939) + Video Card PCI-X ATI Radeon X300 SE (128 Mo) +  Monitor TFT Samsung SynMaster 930BF 19" 1280 x 1024, any hope to get 3D acceleration workin on either 32 bit or 64 bit Ubuntu Breezy distribution ? ; thanks.10:50
hav0kyeah, and im digging google.com/linux10:50
mustard5Vorpulus, yes...that will generate the page and then you will have a unique URL to show me in here10:51
crimsunStyXman: but you didn't build an initramfs10:51
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Vorpulusoh wow that's pretty nice. Here's the URL: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/407610:51
hav0kwell thanks alot, ill mess around and see if it will auto mount10:51
mustard5Vorpulus, well done..reading now..10:51
don824chanOK how about I list it all on one line.  I'm trying to continue a torrent download with Gnome Bittorrent that happens to be a folder.  When I attempt to continue it, it asks what directory and what name.  When the name is entered correctly in the correct directory, instead of actually continuing the download, it opens the folder that I'm downloading and asks what the name of the file is in there.  How do I circumvent this pr10:51
don824chanoblem?10:51
bolroddamn10:51
LjLbye10:51
StyXmancrimsun: neityher did I w/ the 2.6.11 that is runnning now and that always run...10:52
VorpulusThanks, looks like all the helpful guys are on linux...10:52
erUSUL_!tell dmoyne about ati10:52
naliothdon824chan: use bittornado-gui?10:52
bolrodnow he forgot he must eject the drive before removing it10:52
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don824chanAre you telling or asking?10:52
crimsunStyXman: then which configuration options did you forget to toggle?10:52
mustard5Vorpulus, it appears you have a networking problem.....no route to host10:52
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lsuactiafnerwhat can qemu actually run?10:52
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naliothdon824chan: it's a rhetorical ?. use bittornado-gui10:53
VorpulusI'm on a network at University10:53
don824chank thx10:53
naliothlsuactiafner: anything the host machine can run10:53
don824chananyone help me get it to work on Gnome Bittorrent?10:53
dmoyne erUSUL_ : no much I can tell ! ; I followed different ideas got from various forums but no way to get Direct Rendering !10:53
bolroddon824chan: use azureus... ?10:53
lsuactiafnernalioth : can it run win98?10:53
mustard5Vorpulus, I can only assume that the university has some type of restriction on your access10:53
bolrodazureus is nice... I think10:53
lsuactiafnerassuming its amd64 but 32bit emulation10:53
naliothlsuactiafner: anything the host machine can run10:53
don824chancould you please stop telling me to use something other than Gnome Bittorrent?10:53
ToranHow can I globally change the ubuntu cursor theme from the terminal?10:54
bolrodwhats not working with gnome Bittorrent then?\10:54
don824chan...10:54
bolrodhrm10:54
duke3zhello, i r ubuntu No0b10:54
bolrodI might have misread..10:54
mustard5Vorpulus, you might enquire with those familiar with your universtity network what the issue might be10:54
naliothdon824chan: gnome-bittorrent is probably the worst implementation of bittorrent i've seen10:54
don824chandon824chan OK how about I list it all on one line.  I'm trying to continue a torrent download with Gnome Bittorrent that happens to be a folder.  When I attempt to continue it, it asks what directory and what name.  When the name is entered correctly in the correct directory, instead of actually continuing the download, it opens the folder that I'm downloading and asks what the name of the file is in there.  How do I circumv10:54
don824chanent this problem?10:54
sparksduke3z , yes and10:54
VorpulusOh ok. I'm not actually connected in the same way as the computers in the library are...10:54
lsuactiafnercool thanks10:54
duke3zjust thought i'd say, "wazzzupppp"10:54
don824channalioth: I've got less than 2gb of space left on thsi hard drive10:54
sparks:-D10:54
sparksthats perfectly ok here :-D10:54
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KjetilKapache 1 isn't in kubuntu, right?10:55
VorpulusFor example, if you type 'who' on one of those computers, you get a list of everyone using it, but if you type that on mine, you get me, and that's it10:55
cozIs there an application similar to BeShare from BeOs10:55
Vorpulusperhaps it's not set up right10:55
sparksKjetilK , apache 2 has been out for a while..10:55
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Taa5iIs someone aware of a dd-type program that can write arbitrary binary data [eg all 0's and 1's and random] , supporting multiple devices at once for ouput, and progress indicator with logging ability please?10:55
ognjenhi all, how to combine gnome-session with windowmaker?10:55
turionc #aros10:55
sparksVorpulus , try just w10:55
duke3zthis should play net tv better windows shouldn't it?10:55
naliothdon824chan: yes? bittornado-gui takes up little space10:55
mustard5Vorpulus, yep ok...not knowing how your network functions its a bit hard to suggest solutions10:55
KjetilKsparks: yup, but there is still a lot of stuff that depends on apache 110:55
don824channalioth: so I should remove gnome-bittorrent?10:56
sparksduke3z , *nix is better in all ways :D10:56
bolroddon824chan: aha.. well.. that I dont know.. no experience10:56
cozTaa5i try ubuntuforums cannel10:56
VorpulusIs that the only problem there mustard5? What about that thing at the bottom? I keep getting that too10:56
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naliothdon824chan: you can leave it, it takes up little space10:56
mustard5Vorpulus, checking now...10:56
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duke3zlol sparks,  i've been running mandrake 10.0, just wanted to try this.  i really like it so far10:56
VorpulusThis is so helpful, thanks.10:56
dabaR__ognjen: what is windowmaker?10:56
KjetilKreason I'm asking about apache 1 is that if it isn't in ubuntu, then the plan to use apt-cache to get the package names failed... :-|10:56
don824chanits just that i've used bittornado on windows before and didn't like it at all10:56
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sparksduke3z , its different... should be easier for you to get proggies though10:57
ognjendabar, it's a window manager, see wmaker10:57
mustard5Vorpulus, the last error is because you have synaptic open while using apt-get in terminal..you can only use one or the other, so close synatpic package manager when using apt-get in terminal10:57
tommi^I'm still wondering what seahorse has done: even while creating a new key with gpg I get: gpg: can't connect to `/tmp//seahorse-HgDVNd/S.gpg-agent': No such file or directory10:57
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ToranHow can I globally change the ubuntu cursor theme from the terminal?10:57
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mustard5Vorpulus, its saying that apt-get is locked out of handling the packages because synaptic is open and being used10:58
duke3zlooks like it should be, first will be the net tv.  i wanna get to www.housepartytv.com  for their stream10:58
tommi^I found references to my seahorse/gpg from internet but they were in italy, so no luck.10:58
don824chanwhat is the command to run bittornado?10:58
Vorpulusah yes, I should have known that, I read something about it somewhere...10:58
naliothdon824chan: there are other torrent clients available, search in synaptic for them10:58
mustard5Vorpulus, np , I do it all the time :)10:58
Vorpuluson one of my many entering-errors-into-google fests10:58
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StyXmancrimsun: well, dunno10:58
StyXmanI mean, it's almost the same setup10:59
bolrodbtdownloadcurses or something10:59
VorpulusCan you believe I was actually proud when I installed Real Player, something I don't even need? :(10:59
StyXmanlemme check something10:59
crimsun"almost"?10:59
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duke3zi need realplayer10:59
mustard5Vorpulus, its an achievement nevertheless :)10:59
Vorpulushaha.10:59
sparksduke3z , so go get it10:59
StyXmancrimsun: well, there are differences between 2.6.11 and 1.6.1410:59
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felipe_Hola, como instalo el gcc 3.4 si ya tengo instalado el 4?10:59
Vorpuluswell that's all I've managed to install thus far10:59
sparksduke3z , they support linux10:59
felipe_oop sorry11:00
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felipe_wrong channel11:00
duke3zright on, will do.  how do i put your name infront when i speak to you?11:00
mustard5Vorpulus, yeah, you really need to tackle the network issue..its critical to your functionality11:00
trappistduke3z: type it.  and optionally take advantage of your irc client's tab complete feature.11:00
crimsunStyXman: the config options common to both should not have changed.11:00
Vorpulusdo you think that could be the root to many of the problems I am experiencing?11:00
nalioth!es11:00
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:00
mustard5Vorpulus, most definitely11:01
VorpulusI'll see if anyone here knows11:01
duke3zi was looking for that11:01
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duke3zhave ur name highlighted11:01
naliothfelipe_: ingles aqui, espaol en #ubuntu-es, por favor11:01
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duke3zwhat more do they want heha11:01
mustard5Vorpulus, k11:01
felipe_how do I install the 3.4 gcc when I already have the 4.0 gcc installed?11:01
trappistfelipe_: apt-get install gcc-3.411:01
dabaR__felipe_: apt should take care of it for you if the package name is different.11:02
mustard5Vorpulus, it may be as simple as needing to set up synaptic to use the university proxy server11:02
felipe_ok thanks11:02
jonnydoes anyone here use gmailFS?11:02
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VorpulusI've actually just re-located something I used to try and get the Internet working. No idea how I got the Internet working, honestly. It's the networking instructions for linux11:02
mustard5which reminds me of a question I have....How do you set up apt-get to use a proxy server?11:02
sparksjonny , i believe now its only under windows11:02
sparksjonny , but i have11:03
Vorpulusbut they're dated11:03
jonnysparks: r we aloud 2 talk about that here?11:03
StyXmancrimsun: and they didn't. I just removed some modules I don't need11:03
dabaR__well it works, which is what is important.11:03
sparksjonny , sure why not11:03
sparks:-p11:03
jonnyokay, iv downloaded, but cant find it!11:03
sparksjonny , did you install it?11:04
sparkslol11:04
crimsunStyXman: so figure out why your VT and CONSOLE options have been altered11:04
jonnyyes, sorry11:04
sparksjonny , it should be in my computer11:04
sparksas a new drive11:04
Vorpulus*ahem*, not so sure about that one mustard. ;)11:04
jonnyim using ubuntu11:04
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jonnyfrom windows11:04
jonnywhere is my computer11:04
mustard5Vorupulus, hehe yeah..I try to find out now so I know too :)11:04
dabaR__in front of you11:04
codeprophetlol11:04
dabaR__well what did he expect11:04
StyXmancrimsun: ok11:05
trappistmustard5: I believe it goes in /etc/apt/preferences11:05
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sparksjonny , ?? its just on the desktop or in the start menu..11:05
trappistbut I could be wrong11:05
mustard5trappist, thanks..checking that now ;)11:05
jonnyim using ubuntu11:05
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jonnysparks: im using ubuntu11:06
sparksjonny , is there a gmailfs under linux11:06
sparks??11:06
trappistsparks: it's available, yes11:06
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Vorpulusmustard5, the trouble with these instructions is it says things like: You need to ensure you have a DHCP client installed. Then it goes on to say how to do that on Redhat and Mandrake11:07
sparksjonny , hang on let me install and tell you11:07
jonnyokay11:07
cuscosparks: apt-cache search gmailfs11:07
StyXmancrimsun: well, I have devfs compiled in 2.6.11, but I don't have devfsd. 2.6.14 doesn't have devfs...11:07
sparkscusco , why not just install :_11:07
cuscojonny: I tried it but I was never able to mount it11:07
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trappistsparks: http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html11:07
calamarihi11:07
jonnycusco: better then me!11:07
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cuscojonny: what do you get?11:07
jonnyi couldnt even find it, cusco11:07
mustard5Vorpulus, you might ask the channel about the problem of setting up DHCP  I'm not very good with networking11:07
cuscojonny: sudo apt-get install gmailfs11:07
jonnyno...iv installed it, cusco11:08
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jonnycusco: i dont know where it is lol11:08
mustard5trappist, it appears I have no file called preferences in /etc/apt :)11:08
cuscojonny: sudo updatedb; locate gmailfs11:08
Vorpulusmustard5, I'd just about started to get the impression you knew everything - my apologies!11:08
adrihi all11:08
cuscojonny: I supose under /etc/11:08
mustard5Vorpulus, :)11:08
calamaricertain things don't seem to be syslogged.  is ubuntu filtering them out of /var/log/messages to someplace else?11:09
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VorpulusIs anyone good at networking on linux?11:09
erUSUL_mustard5, create it yourself11:09
trappistVorpulus: sudo apt-get install dhcp3-client11:09
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Vorpulusthanks11:09
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erUSUL_calamari, which things11:09
dabaR__sudo dpkg -L gmailfs is better11:09
felipe_how do I link the gcc 3.4 insteado of the gcc 4?11:09
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trappistfelipe_: ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc11:10
calamarierUSUL: certain errors being logged by a python program11:10
GMachine_24Hi. Anyone here familiar with Cinerella and have you successfully used it w/ Ubuntu?11:10
jonnydabaR__: can you help me with gmailfs?11:10
StyXmancrimsun: also, I have udev installed...11:10
crimsuntrappist: god no, don't do that11:10
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dabaR__jonny: I just did a little bit.11:10
adriim a new linux user, i enjoy it a lot, but i've a problem, i dont arrive to install my wifi card (rtl8081), my linux is Ubuntu... Please help me11:10
Vorpulustrappist, that resulted in all kinds of things starting with W: Couldn't start source package list11:10
felipe_trappist, thanks, is that all?11:10
jonnyoh, sorry11:10
dabaR__jonny: if you arew asking whether I know how to set it up, then no11:10
mustard5erUSUL_, having created this file where would I look to find the syntax for setting up an apt-get preferences file?11:10
crimsuntrappist: force the Makefile to honor $(CC), but don't randomly resymlink the compiler11:10
naliothVorpulus: only two things, it should have been11:11
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trappistfelipe_: crimsun thinks it's a bad idea.  I think he wants to use update-alternatives or export CC=gcc-3.4 or something11:11
erUSUL_mustard5, google??11:11
jonnyi gotcha11:11
GMachine_24adri have you checked the wifi manufacturer for linux drivers and have you checked to see if your wifi card is compatible with linux?11:11
mustard5erUSUL_, I'll see how I go :)11:11
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naliothfelipe_: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 is the safest11:11
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felipe_trappist, well I kinda executed the command..11:11
Vorpulusnalioth, what do you mean?11:11
adriim a new linux user, i enjoy it a lot, but i've a problem, i dont arrive to install my wifi card (rtl8081), my linux is Ubuntu... Please help me11:11
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felipe_trappist, how do I go back?11:11
trappistfelipe_: you can undo it, but I disagree with crimsun about it being a bad idea11:12
naliothVorpulus: paste your errors into a pastebin please11:12
GMachine_24adri: i just gave you an answer.11:12
Vorpulusokay11:12
felipe_trappist, ok11:12
adrisorry i didnt see it..11:12
GMachine_24well scroll up11:12
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trappistfelipe_: ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc should return it to its original state11:12
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hawkingcrimsun: are you here?11:12
felipe_trappist, oh thanks11:12
GMachine_24Cinerella, anyone?11:12
crimsuntrappist: it's definitely a bad idea. What happens to CPP and CXX?11:12
trappistfelipe_: what are you trying to accomplish?11:12
crimsunyou'd have to continually resymlink them, too11:13
GMachine_24I want world peace.11:13
GMachine_24oh.11:13
Vorpulusnalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/408011:13
calamarierUSUL_: it seems that only WARNING, NOTICE, and INFO messages are being logged, and not the rest11:13
trappistcrimsun: if you need to change those too, you can do that11:13
adriin fact, ive searched information about my wifi card over google, and from my search, my wifi card is compatible..11:13
dabaR__later11:13
StyXmanadri: ndiswrapper is your safest way to go11:13
GMachine_24ok adri.11:13
naliothtrappist: exporting the variable takes care of all that11:13
felipe_trappist, compile the kernel module for the nvidia11:13
trappistcrimsun: I do it all the time, but I guess I know how to deal with the consequences11:13
erUSUL_calamari, then you should configure syslogd11:13
GMachine_24adri: ubuntu does not recognize the card - I'm assuming this is true.11:13
crimsuntrappist: it's preferable to export CC=gcc-3.4 CXX=g++-3.4 CPP=cpp-3.4, etc.11:13
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crimsuntrappist: yes, but not everyone does know the hidden gotchas11:14
trappistfelipe_: ah.  yeah, fixing the symlink should fix that, exporting CC should fix that, and I think nvidia's installer has an option to choose the compiler.11:14
slewwheres a good site for ubuntu breezy themes?11:14
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hawkingI am trying to install breezy to my laptop and on a documentation I saw to start the boot with the option init=/bin/sh and move the hotplug scripts to somewhere else and boot again(the problem is caused by hotplug) but when I try to move it says --> Error: Read only filesystem . My filesystem is ext3.Should i change it to smth else?11:14
crimsunhawking: yes?11:14
erUSUL_calamari, to log everything11:14
adriGMachine: i dont understand.. Does it mean my card is not compatible?11:14
naliothVorpulus: have you dont what it says? updated?11:14
calamarierUSUL_: how do I do that?  dpkg-reconfigure syslogd  isn't doing it, because it's not a package11:14
Vorpulusthat doesn't work either nalioth11:14
GMachine_24Adri: No, sorry. What make/model is your wifi card adri?11:14
crimsunhawking: mount -o remount,rw /11:14
felipe_trappist, no it doesn't11:14
kbrooksadri: nduswrapper shouldf help you11:14
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Vorpulusthat results in another series of errors....11:15
naliothVorpulus: what doesnt work?11:15
erUSUL_calamari, edit /etc/syslog.conf11:15
felipe_trappist, I'll see if it works now, thanks.11:15
trappistcrimsun: it'd be less of an issue if ubuntu would build everything (including the kernel) with the same compiler that comes with build-essential11:15
calamarithanks.. aha they are going to /var/log/debug11:15
naliothubotu: tell adri about ndiswrapper11:15
polo_hey11:15
GMachine_24adri pay attention11:15
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naliothadri: look at your private messages11:15
crimsuntrappist: it would have been nice if the kernel could have been compiled with the same compiler.11:15
Vorpulusthe update thing doesn't work11:15
adrikbrooks: im a newB, can u give me a good documentation about nduswrapper please11:15
hawkingcrimsun : do i have to change it back to read only after I move the scripts. will that effect the remaining part of the install?11:16
naliothVorpulus: we need more info than "it doesnt work"11:16
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crimsuntrappist: but it obviously couldn't have been at the time, so we didn't use it.11:16
kbrooksadri: nope. i dont use wireless11:16
naliothadri: you have good documentation, read your PM from ubotu11:16
trappistcrimsun: especially that.  better than sarge, though, where the compiler they use to build the kernel isn't even available as a package.11:16
Vorpulusnalioth, shall I do another pastebin thing?11:16
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naliothVorpulus: please11:16
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crimsunhawking: no need to change it back.11:16
hawkingcrimsun : thanks again and again and again :)11:16
IRCMonkeyhow doi burn ubuntu to boot11:16
buvenshi i tried to play back a dvd with having libdvdcss2 and totem-xine installed11:16
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buvensbut it still says11:17
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buvens"you're trying to play an encrypted dvd without libdvdcss2"11:17
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adrithank you, im going to look and if i dont arrive to configure my wifi card, i'll go back.. thank u again.. see u later11:17
naliothubotu: tell buvens about libdvdcss211:17
erUSUL_!tell buvens about dvd11:17
trappistbuvens: sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh11:17
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Vorpulusactually nalioth it's pretty short: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/408111:17
IRCMonkeyhow can i boot ubuntu_11:17
GMachine_24good luck adri11:17
DjKriticalDoes ubuntu recommend an email server to use?11:17
buvensyeah i did that11:18
buvensinstall-css.sh thing11:18
erUSUL_IRCMonkey, set your bios to boot from cd11:18
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trappistweird11:18
GMachine_24monkey: do you have the ubuntu install iso file?11:18
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DjKriticalCan anyone recomment an Email server for Ubuntu which makes it easy to setup virtual domains?11:18
budluvacan someone help me here? i get this error when trying to run racer, but get this error bin/racer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory11:18
budluva. i've searched synaptic/apt for this and nothing shows, i have libsdtc++6 installed though, why wont it run?11:18
IRCMonkeydo i just burn all the files in the zip and reboot_11:18
naliothubotu: tell Vorpulus about apt-get11:18
IRCMonkeymachine >no11:19
GMachine_24monkey: if you have the ubuntu install version as an iso you burn it to a cd and you can boot from that cd11:19
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trappistbudluva: there are several versions of libstdc++11:19
sharrockHello, bonsoir!11:19
GMachine_24monkey: and then install ubuntu as per screen instrux11:19
WildZeckmake a symbolic link from libstcc++ ... so to libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.311:19
erUSUL_IRCMonkey, you have dl an iso file, haven't you?11:19
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WildZeckbudluva,11:20
IRCMonkeyi have no iso file11:20
budluvatrappist, well i cant find the version with libc11:20
KnowerrorsAnyone know how to fix this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80707&highlight=kdsetkeycode ?11:20
StyXmancrimsun: seems like devfs is the one to blame here11:20
GMachine_24monkey: then d/l the ubuntu install iso file11:20
budluvaWildZeck, yes?11:20
GMachine_24and burn it to a cd11:20
StyXmancrimsun: do you know how udev works? any good pointers?11:20
Vorpulusnalioth, does that cover the error?11:20
erUSUL_IRCMonkey, you need it to burn the install cd an install ubuntu11:20
naliothbudluva: where did you get the game?11:20
naliothVorpulus: you need to read that article11:20
GMachine_24monkey: check www.linuxiso.org for more information11:20
IRCMonkeywhat burn proram_11:20
budluvanalioth, www.racer.nl11:20
Vorpulusok nalioth, thanks11:20
naliothbudluva: did you compile it or get a deb?11:20
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GMachine_24monkey check linuxiso.org for instructions11:21
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budluvanalioth, compiled11:21
trappistbudluva: sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.211:21
naliothbudluva: then you shouldnt be having problems11:21
buvensand another question is11:21
budluvanalioth, err nm, comiled fmod (for sound) then just unzipped the games data/bin archives and tried to run bin/racer11:21
buvensi put a module into /etc/hotplug/blacklist11:21
trappistbudluva: or, sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update && apt-file search libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.311:21
buvensso it doesn't load on startup11:21
naliothbudluva: ah! that's why11:21
buvensbut it still gets loaded11:21
GMachine_24Anyone use Cinerella?11:21
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naliothtrappist: his game is looking for debian pkgs, not ubuntu ones11:21
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trappistnalioth: aren't debian and ubuntu packges mostly binary-compatible?11:22
naliothtrappist: not anymore11:22
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WildZecklessly11:22
trappistI see.11:22
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budluvatrappist, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 worked, thanks bro11:23
Vorpulusah yes nalioth, I missed out the sudo bit... However, there are now a load of errors about "no route to host". mustard5 says it is a network problem (if I remember right)11:23
naliothVorpulus: it is a network problem, yes11:23
felipe_trappist, Well it compiled without trouble :) Now it won't load the nvidia module 'cos it doesn't find an useable resolution.11:23
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GMachine_24buvens: I don't know. I have never gotten ubuntu to play a dvd movie although i did easily with red hat/fedora11:24
erUSUL_felipe_, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:24
_jasondoes anyone else experience light (as in not dark) printing when printing a pdf?  Is there anyway to access some kind of printing settings for evince?11:25
buvensand why does wxvlc use wxgtk2.4 with ugly gtk1?11:25
dell500does anyone know how to test fglrx??11:25
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felipe_erUSUL_, ok, thanks. Do I have to log out of X to do that?11:25
trappistdell500: glxinfo | grep rendering11:25
CornelliusHow to install KDE on Ubuntu ?11:26
erUSUL_felipe_, no need to...11:26
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trappistCornellius: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:26
erUSUL_Cornellius, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:26
marskaHello... Trying to play restricted formats and I can't seem to bring up the codec packages in Synaptic (have multi, restricted and universe checked) and when I try to use the terminal, it tells me that the admin directory is in use11:27
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marskaI need to be able to play wmv, mov, etc so how do I do this?11:27
marskaI'm running on Breezy11:27
dell500does fglrx support dual monitors?11:27
trappist!tell marska about w32codecs11:27
CornelliusThanks to both11:28
erUSUL_marska, admin directory? you have to close synaptic to use comand line apt11:28
CornelliusI like both desktop11:28
Cornelliuscant decide which is my fav11:28
GMachine_24https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:28
marskaerUSUL_, Oh11:28
jonnyrhythmbox quits unexpectidly every time i open it!11:28
sharrockCould somebody help me please : fglrx does not load ((EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOMEM")11:28
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erUSUL_jonny, run it from comand line to see error messages11:29
jonnywhat command, ersul_?11:29
GMachine_24marska: have you tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:29
marskaGMachine_24, Yes11:29
GMachine_24ok11:29
erUSUL_jonny, rhythmbox11:29
jonnythats it?11:29
jonnyokay11:29
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Vorpulusnalioth, I have found some network instructions on my university website. I wasn't even able to do the first thing, which was to ensure I had a DHCP-client installed. trappist told me the command I needed to enter into the terminal. I put it in, but there were a series of errors something along the lines of W: Couldn't start source package list11:30
jonnyrhythmboxerUSUL_: no error message!11:30
naliothVorpulus: you need to see the outside internet11:30
trappistVorpulus: did you use sudo?  as in sudo apt-get install...11:30
sharrockI've being woring so much to try to load fglrx, could somebody help me ??11:31
trappistoh, that too11:31
Vorpulusyep, I copied your line straight in11:31
dell500how do i find out what version of fglrx i have?11:31
trappistVorpulus: if you run 'dhclient' what does it say11:31
VorpulusI'm too much of a newbie to even know how to run that :(11:31
erUSUL_jonny, nothing? it just dies? very weird im afraid i can not do much more11:31
Vorpulusoh, just type it in?11:31
trappistVorpulus: open a console and type 'sudo dhclient'11:31
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VorpulusI'll do another pastebin thing...11:32
jonnyhmm11:32
jonnyokau11:32
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jonnyokay*11:32
erUSUL_Vorpulus, sudo apt-get install dhcp-client11:33
naliothtrappist: he's behind a uni firewall or something11:33
Vorpulushttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/408211:33
slewwheres a good site for ubuntu breezy themes?11:33
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trappistVorpulus: it worked.  you have an ip address now.11:33
VorpulusThat's thing thing that gets me all the W: Couldn't stat source package errors11:33
trappistVorpulus: all that should be left is to set up your browser and apt to use the proxy.11:34
Vorpulusis that hard?11:34
GMachine_24no11:34
trappistno11:34
jonnyrhythmbox quits unexpectidly every time i open it!11:34
VorpulusMy Internet browser works, does that tell you anything? I don't know if the fact that works means something or not...11:35
GMachine_24it means you're connected11:35
GMachine_24.......i hope11:35
trappistVorpulus: it does mean something.  now try sudo apt-get install vim or something11:35
GMachine_24haha11:35
GMachine_24sorry11:35
n0odl3% /home/n0odl3/share/tf-lib/stdlib.tf: No such file or directory11:36
n0odl3Can't read required library.11:36
n0odl3 does anyone knwo what this means?11:36
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Vorpulussame kind of errors trappist11:36
trappistn0odl3: you're missing a library11:36
n0odl3trappist: how may obtain or look for this library/11:36
Vorpulustrappist, can I show you the university webpage I have on how to set this stuff up?11:36
trappistn0odl3: do you know what library is missing?11:36
Stormx2hey, would it be acceptable to write a How-To on the forums for connecting SPV e100/200s and more to Ubuntu? There is a Pocket PC guide, but this one requires more/different steps11:36
mustard5Vorpulus, try setting up proxy through synaptic...I'm still working out how to set up proxy on apt-get..its not straightforward11:36
trappistVorpulus: first, remind me what kind of error you get with apt-get11:36
n0odl3well i presume stdlib.tf judging from the message above11:37
mustard5Vorpulus, there is supposed to be an apt.conf file but it doesn't exist11:37
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Vorpulus W:Couldn'tstatsourcepackage for loads of things11:37
robertjare the Novell layoffs really as bad as posts are letting on?11:37
trappistn0odl3: try sudo apt-get install tf11:37
n0odl3ok11:37
mustard5Vorpulus, there was also a 'no route to host' error11:37
Stormx2what command untars files? (.tar.gz)11:38
VorpulusI'm missing that file?11:38
trappistStormx2: tar zxf11:38
trappistVorpulus: try sudo apt-get update11:38
Vorpulusno route to host was the error I got with get update11:38
n0odl3trappist: uhhh i got something tf but its still giving me the error message when i try to run the program11:38
KjetilKwooohoooo, I finally got my package list of the diff between popularity-contest and kubuntu CD! :-)11:38
trappistVorpulus: before, or now?11:38
VorpulusI'll try again11:38
|meheren|are there any like key commands for ubutnu like ctrl+alt+del for windows and apple+q for mac11:39
|meheren|?11:39
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trappistn0odl3: ln -s /usr/share/games/tf/stdlib.tf /home/n0odl3/share/tf-lib/11:39
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|meheren|like can u open something if ubtunu freezes witch is unlikly i no11:39
Vorpulusit looks like some of the things work, but some of them don't11:39
Vorpuluspastebin time... :P11:39
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mustard5Vorpulus, yes11:40
trappistVorpulus: then it looks like some of your /etc/apt/sources.list is good and some isn't11:40
marskaHow do I navigate to my home directory in a terminal?11:40
marskaI need to install a .deb file11:40
topyli|meheren|: yeah, we all miss ctrl-alt-del ;-)11:40
GMachine_24cd home11:40
|meheren|so there is no command?11:40
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erUSUL_marska, with the cd comand and ls aor with mc (midnight commander)11:40
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n0odl3hmm11:40
n0odl3this is peculiar11:40
n0odl3it says it does not exisit11:40
n0odl3*exsist11:40
Vorpulushttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/408311:40
felipe_wich was the comand to reconfigure de xserver again? the bash history didn't save it, and X did not start with my 686 kernel11:40
GMachine_24exist?11:40
topyli|meheren|: i seem to remember it runs the process manager by default on windows? there's the gnome system monitor of course that does about the same. but it's not behind any key shortcut11:41
VorpulusI copied that sources list from the pastebin page erUSUL gave me11:41
VorpulusI hope I copied it correctly..11:41
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slewcolor test11:41
GMachine_24Vorp: what are you searching for?11:41
erUSUL_felipe_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xorg11:41
jronwhere are modules being called? /etc/modules.conf does not exist....11:41
n0odl3trappist: this is the whole message11:42
n0odl3% LC_CTYPE category set to "en_US.UTF-8" locale.11:42
n0odl3% LC_TIME category set to "en_US.UTF-8" locale.11:42
n0odl3% /home/n0odl3/share/tf-lib/stdlib.tf: No such file or directory11:42
n0odl3Can't read required library11:42
VorpulusSorry GMachine?11:42
slewcolor test11:42
GMachine_24vorp: are you searching for repositories?11:42
felipe_erUSUL_, thanks11:42
trappistn0odl3: file /home/n0odl3/share/tf-lib/stdlib.tf11:42
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VorpulusI'm just copying in the commands these guys are giving me11:42
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GMachine_24vorp: ok11:42
jisao1_Where can I ask questions about bug reporting?11:43
|meheren|can u creat a key shortcut for the gnome system monitor?11:43
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VorpulusI think erUSUL gave me a list of repositories to copy into sources.list11:43
Vorpulusand I copied it straight in11:43
GMachine_24jisao: bug reporting for what program?11:43
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trappistVorpulus: paste any one line out of your sources.list here11:43
jisao1_grub during ubuntu 5.10 install11:44
Sanne|meheren|: for a console system monitor, you can try "top"11:44
erUSUL_Vorpulus, the sources.list is ok. you have problems whith name resolution11:44
n0odl3trappist: it tells me thre is no such file or directory11:44
Vorpulusdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main11:44
trappistn0odl3: did you run the ln -s command I gave you earlier?11:44
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topyli|meheren|: you can create random shortcuts with the configuration editor (in the applications -> system tools menu) but it's not exactly trivial11:44
n0odl3yes11:44
n0odl3but it told me there was no such directory11:44
n0odl3or file11:44
Vorpuluswhat's the name resolution?11:44
trappistVorpulus: I guess go ahead and paste your whole sources.list into pastebin11:45
Ratzillacan anyone help me? I'm new to Linux and I'm trying to install emacs.  I've tried using the apt-get install command but it doesn't work.11:45
GMachine_24gang: where can jisao report a bug he/she got during a 5.10 install?11:45
trappistRatzilla: "doesn't work" isn't very helpful.11:45
erUSUL_Vorpulus, for some reason you do not resolve security machines or can't get to them11:45
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rellikis there a way to change the "crontab -e" editor from emacs to vi?  who would want to use emacs anyway? :)11:45
trappistrellik: export EDITOR='emacs -nw'11:46
GMachine_24I'm lost.11:46
trappisterr11:46
trappistrellik: export EDITOR='vim'11:46
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relliktrappist, both or just the vi line?11:46
Vorpulushttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 <--I think that's it11:46
SEJeffrellik: vi ~/.profile11:46
Ratzillatrappist: i typed sudo apt-get install emacs and it says E: couldn't find package emacs11:46
SEJeffrellik: In that, put export EDITOR=vim11:46
topyli|meheren|: open the configuration editor and take a look at apps/metacity/global_keybindings and apps/metacity/keybinding_commands11:46
asonjay99how do you set up a web server11:47
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erUSUL_!tell Ratzilla about repos11:47
trappistRatzilla: try emacs2111:47
naliothRatzilla: type "apt-cache search emac"11:47
SanneRatzilla: to find out the package name, try "apt-cache search emacs" pr packages.ubuntu.com11:47
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hawkingcrimsun: do i just have to do ./configure , make and make install as installing alsa or do i need some special parameters?11:47
erUSUL_Ratzilla, is emacs2111:47
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trappistrellik: the first one would set it to emacs. I misread your question.11:48
Vorpulusmy Internet browser seems to have stopped working now!!11:48
trappistVorpulus: sudo dhclient11:48
asonjay99can some one please help me setup a web server11:48
PygiHello, anyone interested in helping me out with this project? :) www.sourceforge.net/projects/crowly :) Thank you :)11:48
hawkinghas anyone installed alsa1.10 here?11:48
naliothasonjay99: there are many howtos on the web for that11:48
Ratzillatrappist: when i try emacs21, it says couldn't find package emacs21.11:48
GMachine_24Ratz: you can use synaptic package manager11:49
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trappistRatzilla: apt-cache search emacs11:49
Vorpulusahh it's working again11:49
Vorpulustrappist, shall I type that in?11:49
trappistVorpulus: see if sudo apt-get update works now11:49
trappistVorpulus: if it's working again, no need11:49
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RatzillaSanne: apt-cache search emac says dictionaries-common - Common utilities for spelling dictionary tools fetchmail - SSL enabled POP3, APOP, IMAP mail gatherer/forwarder11:49
Vorpuluswhy would the update thing work now? What have I changed?11:49
asonjay99anyone know any good sites for ubuntu themes11:49
marskaQuestion... How do I bring up the profile manager in Firefox?11:50
trappistVorpulus: if your browser stopped working, it could be because you lost network connectivity, which would also break apt.11:50
martiihell11:50
Sanneasonjay99: try the Ubuntu wiki here: http://tinyurl.com/cjbn811:50
martiio11:50
erUSUL_Ratzilla, have you read what ubotu told you about repos?11:50
asonjay99sanne: thanks11:50
hawkingwhere can i find nice repositories for breezy?11:50
RatzillaerUSUL_: where do i do that?11:50
martiianyone knows howto find file in apt repos ?11:50
jronwhere are modules being called? /etc/modules.conf does not exist.... like in gentoo11:50
trappistmarska: mozilla-firefox -ProfileManager11:50
marskatrappist, Terminal command?11:50
naliothubotu: tell hawking about sources11:50
Vorpulusah, but that thing hasn't been working at all trappist11:50
trappistmarska: apt-file search11:50
trappistmarska: yes11:51
martiilooks like apt-cache search looks only in descriptions11:51
marskatrappist, So what do I type?11:51
erUSUL_Vorpulus, the net you are attached at is no working correctly that's it11:51
erUSUL_!tell Ratzilla about repos11:51
trappistmarska: might need to install apt-file and do apt-file update first11:51
SanneRatzilla: erUSUL said the name is emacs2111:51
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trappistmarska: apt-file search <filename>11:51
marska?11:51
Vorpulusyou mean it's a problem with the servers?11:51
Vorpulusor something..11:51
RatzillaerUSUL_: thanks, ill read is first11:51
naliothVorpulus: they are saying it sounds like a problem with your uni network11:52
RatzillaSanne: emacs21 gives me the same thing11:52
lazyilmazhi all, is this the right place to talk a new project for Ubuntu?11:52
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walter_hola11:52
rem_ratz ... ping www.google.com see if it works ..11:52
walter_hey necesito ayuda11:52
erUSUL_Vorpulus, nalioth get it right11:52
SanneRatzilla: and I really recommend packages.ubuntu.com - there I also find the package emacs2111:52
lazyilmazit's about a graphical installer11:52
topyli!es11:52
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:52
marskaMy profiles are missing!11:52
erUSUL_walter_, pidela en #ubuntu-es11:52
GMachine_24walter: are we supposed to guess the topic?11:52
walter_tengo un foking eror con gnome11:52
GMachine_24and the foking error is .....11:53
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naliothwalter_: que idioma?11:53
trappistwalter_: #ubuntu-es11:53
VorpulusA problem in that I haven't set up my computer with the network correctly, or that the network itself isn't working properly? I hope my newbiness didn't shine through too strongly just then...11:53
walter_intente todo lo que sale en ubuntu-ese y nada11:53
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jonnyany free music program for linux?11:53
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trappistjonny: zillions.  try xmms.11:53
jonnyok11:53
GMachine_24walter hable ingles11:54
marskaJonny: Linux doesn't play music11:54
fanopnaicjonny: or rhythmbox or amarok11:54
topylijonny: no, they're all pretty expensive and full of drm11:54
MattBergeronis this the Ubuntu Help?11:54
marskaSomeone lied to you11:54
naliothMattBergeron: it is11:54
SanneRatzilla: if emacs21 doesn't get installed, I'm afraid somebody more knowledgable about Ubuntu needs to reply, I've no ideas left, sorry.11:54
topyliMattBergeron: yes11:54
|meheren|how can i creat a keypad shorcut for gnome system monitor11:54
MattBergeroni have a problem installing11:54
walter_les dire mi eror talvez alguien me ayuda11:54
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marskaJonny: If you download any programs through synaptic, they are charged to your credit card11:54
erUSUL_Vorpulus, the later11:54
GMachine_24walter: no hablas ingles?11:54
trappistwalter_: /join #ubuntu-es - this is an english channel.11:54
crimsunwalter_: #ubuntu-es, por favor11:54
RatzillaSanne: sudo apt-cache search emacs21 is the command i tried...11:54
MattBergeroni keep getting stuck at "NIC FIRMWARE-2.6 10-5 386 DI"11:54
GMachine_24es as in espanol, sr walter11:55
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topyli|meheren|: in gconf-editor, browse to apps->metacity. edit global_keybindings and keybinding_commands11:55
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naliothwalter_: ingles aqui, espaol in #ubuntu-es, por favor11:55
jonnymarska: im playing music right now11:55
colenhello11:55
_jasondoes anyone know where I can modify printing settings for evince?11:55
walter_cuando quiero entrar con mi usuario normal me dice que mis esiona durado 10 segundos y no me deja aceder11:55
jonnycolen: hi11:55
|meheren|im there edit them in what way?11:55
GMachine_24WALTER11:55
GMachine_24oye11:55
SanneRatzilla: you don't need to use sudo for apt-cache, I believe. Can you do "apt-get install emacs21" ?11:55
jonnycolen: what do you need?11:55
naliothwalter_: vaya de la #ubuntu-es, por favor11:55
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colenI was on here a few days back and someone had given me a link to installing codecs?  I have since lost the link but need it again11:56
JDahl_jason, in the cups printer manager. You change if for all applications not just evince11:56
MattBergeronwhat shuld i do11:56
JDahls/if/it11:56
SanneRatzilla: "sudo apt-get install emacs21" of course, sorry11:56
GMachine_24https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats colen?11:56
topyli|meheren|: well, you know windows. it's a bit like regedit.exe (except we dont have a registry, thank heavens)11:56
naliothubotu: tell colen about w32codecs11:56
hawkingcrimsun: are you there?11:57
erUSUL_walter_, te han icho por activa y por pasiva que fueras a #ubuntu-es. Esto es un canal en ingls11:57
erUSUL_dicho11:57
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crimsunhawking: yes11:57
colenyes, thank you all for your help11:57
walter_ya me cambie11:57
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_jasonJDahl:  my problem is that evince prints pdf's too lightly.  If I print from a program like OpenOffice it prints nice and dark (ie easy to read).  Any idea what I could do?11:57
|meheren|yes thank heavens for that11:57
GMachine_24adios walter11:57
walter_bye11:57
trappistwill someone kick walter_'s ass into #ubuntu-es11:57
RatzillaSanne: I get this msg E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)11:57
MattBergeronMy problem is during install11:57
|meheren|so just do the same thing i would do in regedit? sorta11:57
naliothubotu: tell Ratzilla about apt-get11:57
SanneRatzilla: "sudo apt-get install emacs21" of course, sorry11:57
hawkingcrimsun : I have done the install disabling hotplug so computer couldn't detect ethernet and it couldn't download stuff from internet... how can i download the things that the installation normally would?11:57
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mustard5Ratzilla, close synaptic11:58
crimsunhawking: restart hotplug after11:58
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JDahl_jason, isnt it a problem with the particular pdf file you're printing? Both evince, openoffice and every other programs just translate their output to PS and prints it via CUPS11:58
RatzillaSanne: E: Couldn't find package emacs2111:58
erUSUL_hawking, run synaptic an reload and mark updates11:58
hawkingoh ok that's easy :) thx11:58
MattBergeronall it does is stop at the 34% then it goes to a black screen11:58
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MattBergeronand then trys to install again11:58
MattBergeronwith no help11:58
SanneRatzilla: ok, then I'm lost also, sorry. apt should find the package. Anyone has any ideas?11:58
naliothubotu: tell MattBergeron about verify11:58
_jasonJDahl:  doesn't seem to be.  I have tried several, but admittedly they have all been generated by pdflatex.  I will download a pdf and see.11:58
erUSUL_Ratzilla, your repos are set correctly and you reloaded the package list?11:58
GMachine_24none, sanne.11:58
topyli|meheren|: well, in the global_keybindings part you put something like ctrl-alt-del (just an idea :) for command_1 or whatever it is. then in keybinding commands you put gnome-system-monitor as kommand_111:59
naliothMattBergeron: read your msg from ubotu11:59
mustard5Ratzilla, enable extra repositores is the answer I would think11:59
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naliothmustard5: that is not his problem11:59
JDahl_jason, e.g., what happens if you export an openoffice file as pdf and then prints that with evince?11:59
mustard5nalioth, k11:59
|meheren|oh ok thx11:59
zxsykcoYay! I'm stupid!11:59
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