[12:00] <penguinbrat> SGershon: is it working?
[12:00] <ayyanarch> sed is a strange being
[12:00] <topyli> johnsbil: how about #debian? or did they kick you? :)
[12:00] <andi5> johnsbil: so why do not you start by asking this question in #debian ... just wondering :)
[12:00] <SGershon> penguinbrat: Yes!
[12:00] <SGershon> penguinbrat: and No.
[12:00] <penguinbrat> SGershon: sweet - congratz =)
[12:00] <tj101> can someone help with madwifi compliled on a custom kernel?
[12:00] <penguinbrat> SGershon: doh... to soon =P what happened, didnt happen?
[12:00] <andi5> ayyanarch: it is not too complicated (if you avoid the buffer features)
[12:01] <geirb> Annyone have a sugestion for an alternative program for connecting to the msn nettwork. I saw amsn in google. Is it anny good ?
[12:01] <FlannelKing> Hey guys, Booting works fine, until I get to EVMS, and then I get a 'buffer io error on device dm-7'... help?
[12:01] <andi5> geirb: gaim?
[12:01] <tj101> geirb: have you tried gaim?
[12:01] <thoreauputic> geirb:  gaim does msn
[12:01] <SGershon> penguinbrat: I have two screens, ad the mouse can walk across them like normal. Each screen has its own resolution and I even can set different pannels in each one. Real beauty. BUT:
[12:02] <thoreauputic> geirb: and it's installed by default in Ubuntu
[12:02] <test34> topyli, I'll let you know if I find something
[12:02] <SGershon> penguinbrat: Applications open in one screen can not be dragged to the other screen.
[12:02] <K_Dallas> Evening! Last time i used ubuntu on the ubuntuguide page there was the procedure to install mplayer. now that there is a new version of ubuntu, is that procedure is still applicable? thanks
[12:02] <andi5> ayyanarch: well, i did not see your message, please.... start a line with the name of the person you are talking to, most irc programs allow this (simply enter first characters, then hit TAB for completion)
[12:02] <thoreauputic> K_Dallas: no
[12:02] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[12:02] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[12:02] <penguinbrat> SGershon: I think you enable the xinerama extension to get that working...
[12:02] <SGershon> penguinbrat: Each application can be moved only inside the screen it was created.
[12:03] <K_Dallas> ompaul, i know it is out of date, that is why i asked ;)
[12:03] <thoreauputic> K_Dallas: you can install mplayer from the universe repository
[12:03] <thoreauputic> oops
[12:03] <ompaul> K_Dallas, have a look at the wiki
[12:03] <SGershon> xinerama... Actually, I did fglrxconfig.
[12:03] <thoreauputic> K_Dallas: sorry multiverse
[12:03] <bimberi> ubotu tell K_Dallas about mplayer
[12:03] <K_Dallas> thanks. i will look into it
[12:03] <ayyanarch> andi5, ok
[12:03] <SGershon> penguinbrat: xinerama... Actually, I did fglrxconfig.
[12:03] <K_Dallas> thanks bimberi
[12:03] <ompaul> K_Dallas, have fun
[12:03] <geirb> will check it out
[12:03] <bimberi> K_Dallas: np :)
[12:03] <andi5> ayyanarch: thank you :) --- if you have sed questions, feel free to ask :)
[12:03] <topyli> SGershon: is that a restriction in xinerama or in gnome?
[12:03] <ayyanarch> andi5, is what you're sending me private, or does it just highlist things with your name in it?
[12:04] <nuck> what's the best video player to view porn?
[12:04] <FlannelKing> it just highlights
[12:04] <penguinbrat> SGershon: yeah, thats typical - its suppose to work like that, try adding the line "Option	    "Xinerama" "on"" to the server layout section in the xorg.conf - like the one here... http://www.nozell.com/marc/data/xorg.conf-dual-head-xinerama
[12:04] <blueblood> humm, how to unrar in linux?
[12:04] <andi5> ayyanarch: it highlights it... private is started with slash query name
[12:04] <CaNsA> ok why doesnt my usb modem want to work?
[12:04] <ompaul> ayyanarch, this is your name in public you see it with a different colour
[12:04] <nuck> sorry just trolling again just happy i fixed some bugs :-)
[12:04] <topyli> blueblood: install the "unrar" package
[12:05] <FlannelKing> Anyone able to help?
[12:05] <topyli> blueblood: then use the "unrar" command :)
[12:05] <andi5> CaNsA: maybe it is part of a labor union?
[12:05] <CaNsA> lmfao
[12:05] <CaNsA> prolly
[12:05] <blueblood> hmm, topyli, unrar-free is all I can choose from
[12:05] <K_Dallas> FlannelKing, i can help in many ways, have you got a borken leg? can fix that too
[12:05] <SGershon> penguinbrat, topyli: Thnks, will try that.
[12:05] <CaNsA> i would guess that i have to install summin to do with pppoe
[12:06] <topyli> blueblood: you'll have to enable some more non-free repositories like multiverse
[12:06] <test34> topyli, There it is: System - Preferences - File management - Icon view defaults
[12:06] <aurax> hello, i got a dumb question, in nano editor when i choose replace and want the replace action to be case sensitive it shows M-C for case sensitive what does that mean ?
[12:06] <aurax> replace function is ctrl-\
[12:06] <LjL> alt-c if i'm not mistaken
[12:06] <FlannelKing> K_Dallas, yeah, and if I dont have one, you can help with taht too, eh?  Nah, I know the drill, I already asked.  EVMS (Enterprise Volumen Management Server) is giving me errors.  But, it still boots up (or at least, the whole computer does, I dont know what EVMS is, so I dont know if its actually running or not) after displaying the error a bunch
[12:07] <andi5> aurax: most probably simply meta-c , so alt-c
[12:07] <K_Dallas> now, that i am unable to help you with ;)
[12:07] <topyli> test34: i'll be damned :)
[12:07] <nuck> where do you go to look for ubuntu applications? is it safe to install debian-based packages?
[12:07] <topyli> test34: how could the gnome people leave that in the user's view to confuse then =)
[12:07] <LjL> nuck: no, it's not
[12:07] <propagandhi> thoreauputic: on this site http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78271.html people resolved the same problem you're having by upgrading their router firmware
[12:08] <LjL> nuck: you go to the ubuntu repositories for ubuntu apps :)
[12:08] <thoreauputic> propagandhi: erm - I think you have the wrong nick
[12:08] <LjL> nuck: though you might have some luck with some debian packages, but i wouldn't try
[12:08] <test34> topyli, yeah I wouldnt think it would be that easy;)
[12:08] <aurax> aight andi5
[12:08] <aurax> found it
[12:08] <johnsbil> andi5: I just find some wery helpfull friends here 6 hours ago helping me with some problems with kubuntu. The Debianlist doesend always giv me an answer. Well time to go to bed here in Norway. I will start over again tomorrow... i think. Zzzzzzzz...
[12:08] <aurax> thx
[12:08] <nuck> ok i wouldnt try one time crash is enough for me
[12:08] <thoreauputic> propagandhi: I haven't a clue what you are talking about
[12:09] <nuck> LjL
[12:09] <andi5> johnsbil: yeah, same here (baltic coast) :)
[12:09] <topyli> test34: what happened to "giving reasonable defaults" and "hiding the confusing stuff in gconf-editor"? ;-)
[12:09] <propagandhi> thoreauputic: did u catch that
[12:10] <TW> anyone is trying dapper version of ubuntu?
[12:10] <seth> How do I change the font that IRSSI uses?
[12:10] <thoreauputic> propagandhi: I don't have any such problem - you have the wrong person
[12:10] <topyli> TW: reasonable people are not. developers are, on dedicated development machines
[12:10] <LjL> nuck: ?
[12:10] <propagandhi> thoreauputic: yes you're right, sorry
[12:11] <thoreauputic> OK - I was puzzled for a while there :)
[12:11] <andi5> thoreauputic: you deny having such a problem? well, will take my voodoo puppy then :P
[12:11] <bimberi> lol andi5
[12:11] <TW> and anyone use kbluetooth?
[12:11] <thoreauputic> bimberi: do you ever hang out in #kubuntu ?
[12:12] <hyakuhei> Anyone know why when my browsers try to connect to a website, during the handshaking a "TCP Window Update" is generated and then dns for the site resolves to 1.0.0.0 and the connection fails?
[12:12] <propagandhi> i meant hyakuhei
[12:12] <andi5> well, have a nice day to all the western guys out there :)
[12:12] <propagandhi> hyakuhei on this site http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78271.html people resolved the same problem you're having by upgrading their router firmware
[12:12] <bimberi> thoreauputic: no, i don't use it much, should i?
[12:12] <bimberi> oops, mixed subjects there
[12:12] <steigweis> ubuntu on laptops: i hav just installed ubuntu on a thinkpad 600 and want to make it slim now! how to act?
[12:13] <hyakuhei> thanks propagandhi
[12:13] <thoreauputic> bimberi: not necessarily - I was just asking for another reason ( re ops )
[12:13] <steigweis> gnome is too heavy and fluxbox is also slow
[12:13] <seth> steigweis: If fluxbox is slow, there are some problems.
[12:13] <gverig> Can somebody recommend a good download manager for gnome? I primarily need FTP client with reconnect support and what not
[12:13] <propagandhi> hyakuhei: its worth a try at least
[12:13] <thoreauputic> steigweis: fluxbox slow? Weird....
[12:13] <bimberi> thoreauputic: ah
[12:14] <SGershon> penguinbrat, topyli: xinerama made my screens go berzerk
[12:14] <thoreauputic> bimberi: may I /msg you ?
[12:14] <topyli> steigweis: you don't get much lighter than fluxbox. there's twm of course
[12:14] <bimberi> thoreauputic: sure :)
[12:14] <SGershon> penguinbrat, topyli: So I'll just live it this way for now.
[12:14] <steigweis> is it possible to speed up the bootprocess?
[12:14] <FlannelKing> anyone know what device dm-7 is?
[12:14] <topyli> SGershon: :(
[12:15] <hyakuhei> steigweis: are you making fluxbox do transparencies without having good graphic driver support? This can load up the CPU a fair bit
[12:15] <steigweis> is it possible that ubuntu first loads gnome even if i am willing to work with fluxbox?
[12:15] <penguinbrat> SGershon: how do you mean berzerk?
[12:15] <propagandhi> steigweis: yes, you can remove certain processes from the process, but its not recommended if you dont know whats doing what
[12:15] <jazzcrazed> hi all
[12:15] <Stormx2> eek. How do i get vlc to play divx?
[12:15] <topyli> steigweis: what sort of laptop is that anyway? processor speed? ram?
[12:15] <penguinbrat> jazzcrazed: welcome
[12:15] <steigweis> hyakuhei: ok
[12:15] <jazzcrazed> i'm following a howto in the ubuntu wiki on setting up lamp
[12:16] <jazzcrazed> and it's suggesting i add my user and group to apache conf
[12:16] <jazzcrazed> how do i kno wut group i'm in?
[12:16] <steigweis> topyli: its a ibm thinkpad 600E with 300 mhz and 192 mb ram
[12:16] <darkarchon> steigweis, try icewm
[12:16] <darkarchon> its not that slow.
[12:16] <Stormx2> jazzcrazed: Look for users & groups
[12:16] <steigweis> i wonder wha is the right os configuration to get it fast
[12:16] <darkarchon> afaik
[12:16] <hyakuhei> openbox is nice
[12:16] <jazzcrazed> stormx2: i'm using the non-gui server install of ubuntu
[12:16] <darkarchon> hyakuhei, openbox is quite the same als fluxbox
[12:16] <Stormx2> System > Administration > Users & Groups
[12:16] <topyli> steigweis: it's a fast machine. fluxbox should fly. i think you're using applications that eat all your ram
[12:16] <penguinbrat> jazzcrazed: from the cmd line you can type "id" to get that...
[12:16] <SGershon> penguinbrat: It was totaly out of "focus". Lines moving fast from side to side, I coud see things opening nd closing, but notlear at all, and repeatedly. JUST LIKE when you set the resolution to a value too big for a specific screen.
[12:16] <jazzcrazed> stormx2: and beyond that, i'm ssh'ing
[12:16] <jazzcrazed> penguin: thanks!
[12:16] <hyakuhei> only in appearence darkarchon
[12:16] <Stormx2> jazzcrazed: Ack, uhh
[12:17] <darkarchon> hyakuhei, its not that different anyway.
[12:17] <Aven> hey
[12:17] <steigweis> topyli: openoffice would be such an app i guess!?
[12:17] <Aven> how do I set the duration of the /tmp folder when I download stuff?
[12:17] <topyli> steigweis: definitely. use abiword and gnumeric
[12:17] <jazzcrazed> that did it...thx penguin and storm for ur help
[12:18] <topyli> steigweis: openoffice.org by itself will bring this laptop to its knees
[12:18] <SGershon> penguinbrat: But I have other and harder questions, don't worry.
[12:18] <kent> does any one know if the tulip-driver for a new asrocks dual-sata2 works with breezy? it seems it needs a new patch when i google'ed for it :(
[12:18] <Aven> how do I set the duration time of the /tmp folder when I download stuff?
[12:19] <SGershon> When I try to install MPlayer, it tells me: Application 'mplayer' not available: The application can not be found in your archive. This usually means that it is not available for your hardware plattform.
[12:19] <antuanet> hola...?
[12:19] <SGershon> Why?
[12:19] <penguinbrat> SGershon: ohhh - thats the virtual rez... you can hit CTRL+ALT+[-/+]  to change rezes, what is going on is that X is setting the rez to the first one in your modes section, and then actually using the ones it can get working. Try setting a different mode for the first one, and or looking at /var/log/X.0.log to see which went bad...
[12:19] <penguinbrat> SGershon: lol
[12:19] <SGershon> penguinbrat: Wow! Thanks!
[12:19] <SGershon> penguinbrat: I'll try it now!
[12:19] <antuanet> no tengo ni idea de cmo va esto..:(
[12:19] <FlannelKing> anyone know anything about EVMS?
[12:20] <penguinbrat> SGershon: check the repositories you have - I have mplayer isntalled, and it was in the list ;-)
[12:20] <SGershon> antuanet: hablamos espanol, but you'll be better served if you speak english
[12:20] <CaNsA> i have a shortcut in my applications panel, how can i delete it?
[12:20] <antuanet> ok
[12:21] <geirb> When i do mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows I only get a read-only file system. Is it posible to mount a NTFS filesystem as read/write?
[12:21] <CaNsA> and the .desktop file in the /usr/share/applications folder
[12:21] <eedge> anyone successfully managed to get skype running through a proxy.
[12:21] <eedge> ?
[12:21] <FlannelKing> antuanet, #ubuntu-es
[12:22] <antuanet> sorry?
[12:22] <Aven> how do I set the duration time of the /tmp folder when I download stuff?
[12:22] <watnou> english please
[12:22] <theine> Aven, duration time?
[12:22] <CaNsA> i have a shortcut in my applications panel, how can i delete it along with the .desktop file in the /usr/share/applications folder
[12:22] <Aven> the time that it a file will stay in there
[12:23] <Aven> cause it deletes itself very quick
[12:23] <theine> Aven, really? how quick?
[12:23] <antuanet> jeje I'm sorry but my english is as bad as my ubuntu...
[12:23] <watnou> ouch
[12:23] <Aven> 5 seconds
[12:23] <puff> Hm, Mondo Rescue looks really interesting.
[12:23] <robertj^> antuanet: /join #ubuntu-es
[12:23] <joe_b> Aven: why not save the file somewhere else? :)
[12:23] <theine> Aven, are you sure it doesn't simply delete itself when the download is finished?
[12:24] <antuanet> mmm,.,,thanks :)
[12:24] <SGershon> penguinbrat: Yes, it shows in the list, but it is grayed
[12:24] <Aven> that's what it does, thehil
[12:24] <seth> How do I change the font that IRSSI uses?
[12:24] <CaNsA> thoreauputic dude
[12:24] <Aven> joe_b: all .tar files go in /tmp when they're done
[12:24] <CaNsA> i have a shortcut in my applications panel, how can i delete it along with the .desktop file in the /usr/share/applications folder
[12:24] <robertj^> :)
[12:24] <joe_b> what you downloading with?
[12:24] <eedge> anyone successfully managed to get skype running through a proxy?
[12:24] <Aven> firefox
[12:24] <theine> Aven, what? all .tar files go in /tmp? they usually end up on my desktop if i download them with firefox
[12:25] <Aven> thehil: not with mine :\
[12:25] <estrata> can anyone help me with sound for a via8235 using an alsa driver?
[12:25] <Aven> I think it also deletes itself automaticlly
[12:25] <theine> Aven, i'm sure they go somewhere other than /tmp when the download is finished...
[12:25] <SGershon> penguinbrat: mplayer shows in the list, but it is grayed
[12:25] <Aven> hm, okies
[12:26] <fluvvell> I have an observation re: ubuntu, nobody has included a real nice backup utility
[12:26] <joe_b> Aven: mine goto the desktop (just checked :)
[12:26] <theine> Aven, did you try to specify the location where firefox should save you file?
[12:26] <penguinbrat> SGershon: hmm, what arch are you on?
[12:26] <fluvvell> but win doesn't have much of use either
[12:26] <theine> Aven, ...in the download dialog
[12:26] <SGershon> !arch
[12:26] <ubotu> SGershon: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:26] <Aven> thehil: It says "open with" and the default is "Archieve manager"
[12:26] <fluvvell> for those of us who have huge amounts of files, more than can fit on a DVD, it means needing an incremental backup
[12:27] <theine> Aven, ah...
[12:27] <SGershon> !tell SGershon about arch
[12:27] <theine> Aven, you don't want "open with" but "save as file"
[12:27] <Aven> "save to disk" is that what I would have to click on?
[12:27] <theine> Aven, mark that
[12:27] <fluvvell> I've come to grips with tar, but found funny things happen with the newer function.
[12:27] <Aven> Ah
[12:27] <theine> Aven, right, "save on disk"
[12:27] <SGershon> penguinbrat: what do you mean by arch?
[12:27] <estrata> can anyone help me get sound to work with hoary 5.04
[12:27] <Aven> alright, thanks
[12:27] <theine> Aven, you're welcome
[12:28] <penguinbrat> SGershon: AMD64, intel, PPC (Mac), etc...
[12:28] <eedge> anyone here successfully managed to get skype running through a proxy?
[12:28] <fluvvell> I'm keen to chat with any CLI gurus who know what I mean.  I also found that it seems like the find -name program has the same bug with -newer
[12:28] <SGershon> Oh, arch = Architecture. Intel M
[12:28] <eedge> estrata, what exactly do you mean? What sound file are you trying to run and with what?
[12:28] <fluvvell> so my issue is:  Why does find -anewer not really find files newer than the file you point to?
[12:28] <citrosack> hey  do i need a serial for ubuntu?
[12:29] <SGershon> penguinbrat: Oh, arch = Architecture. Intel M.
[12:29] <SGershon> penguinbrat: Uname -a ==> Linux GERSHON 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:29] <penguinbrat> SGershon: hmm, can you right click on it - and select properties?
[12:29] <mattpj1> im having internet problems with my DSL its really slow and i think its cuz of ubuntu i already called my isp and they said everything is fine
[12:29] <SGershon> on it who?
[12:29] <estrata> eedge, well no sound works, I've tryed rhym box and xmms, i've tryed installing the corrrect alsa driver, and unmutting the alsamixer channels, and getting the correct linux header files. I don't know what else to try
[12:30] <theine> fluvvell, `find -anewer' seems to work fine for me
[12:30] <mattpj1> anyone ???
[12:30] <fluvvell> theine, can you paste the syntax you used?
[12:30] <mattpj1> im having internet problems with my DSL its really slow and i think its cuz of ubuntu i already called my isp and they said everything is fine plus i never had these problems on any other distros
[12:30] <penguinbrat> mattpj1: if the connection is up (IE with your modem), it wouldnt be ubuntu as far as I know - unless the ISP is doing something funky with some drivers on windoze...
[12:31] <theine> fluvvell, find -anewer <file>
[12:31] <PHZN`away> I think my network card isn't working on my Ubuntu Server configuration for some reason.
[12:31] <SGershon> penguinbrat: on the "Add Appllications" it is grayed. And theres no menu on rihgt-click.
[12:31] <mattpj1> penguinbrat im not using windows plus my modem has all the info in it all i do is start the comp up
[12:31] <theine> fluvvell, that listed recursively all the files in the current directory that were newer than <file>
[12:31] <FlannelKing> no one knows anything about EVMS?
[12:32] <mattpj1> but its olny been slow since i got ubuntu
[12:32] <penguinbrat> SGershon: try using the "synaptic package manager" thats the one I've been using...
[12:32] <SGershon> penguinbrat: on "Synaptics", wait...
[12:32] <mshade> theine: what were you expecting?
[12:32] <estrata> eedge, do you think you could help if i pm you my lsmod | grep snd and lspci | grep -i audio command results
[12:33] <mshade> theine: sorry, misunderstood
[12:33] <mshade> :)
[12:33] <theine> mshade, exactly that :)
[12:33] <PHZN`away> Can someone help me out with my network problems?
[12:33] <alabatros> guys i have a big problem, i tried to install my fglrx drivers as described in BinaryDriverHowto/ATI but now when i boot i get " the X server is now disabled, restart gdm when its configured correctly ", and i find myself in console mode, how do i get out of this please
[12:34] <PHZN`away> I just did a clean install of Ubuntu Server, and I can't make any network connections.
[12:34] <SGershon> penguinbrat: uname -m says my machine is an i686, but my kernel is 2.6.12.9.386. Wich mplayer I should try to install?
[12:34] <penguinbrat> mattpj1: what I meant with windoze, is they may be using compresion or something, but in any event what have you done to test the connection that lead you to think it is slower under linux - my experience is that it is usually faster under linux.. heh
[12:34] <mshade> alabatros: run sudo fglrxconfig
[12:34] <alabatros> mshade: ok im doing it quick to see
[12:34] <bur[n] er> anyone know wtf /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server is?  it's taking up 500 megs of RAM for me :\
[12:34] <penguinbrat> SGershon: 686 should work fine, go ahead and upgrade to the 686 kernel to why you are at it ;-) just install the packages and reboot =)
[12:35] <eedge> estrata, tried optons > preferences > output plugin > esound? I had problems with alsa... as for your results, there going to mean about as much to me as they do to you :)
[12:35] <dbug> I've got a strange problem: I want to compile psybnc with ssl support. so I did "apt-get install openssl libssl-dev" but make gives me the error 'SSL-Support: Yes, but no openssl binary found in "/usr/bin/"' even though the binary is definitely in there
[12:35] <theine> bur[n] er, how do you actually know that it takes 500 megs?
[12:35] <mattpj1> penguinbrat its not slower under linux its faster but ubuntu since i got that its been slower
[12:35] <dbug> what am I doing wrong here?
[12:35] <mattpj1> i done speed tests called my isp and with using other distros its been faster then this distro
[12:35] <alabatros> mshade: ohhh man thxxxxx it works
[12:35] <bur[n] er> theine: gnome-system-monitor tells me so
[12:35] <estrata> eedge, no luck with esound either
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> anyone know the command (or if its possible) to compile a binary for windows using mingw but on a linux system?
[12:36] <PHZN`away> I just did a clean install of Ubuntu Server, and I can't make any network connections, I'm not even sure if my network card is running, can someone help me out here?
[12:36] <theine> bur[n] er, I'v never used that, but it tells me that all my terminals use 6 megs, which i find hard to believe...
[12:36] <PHZN`away> lsuactiafner, you talking about compiling it to a .EXE?
[12:36] <penguinbrat> mattpj1: ahhh, i see... The only thing I can think of is that it would be in the kernel, either with a wrong (but compatible) module for the NIC or some kind of setting... Maybe DNS settings?
[12:36] <SGershon> penguinbrat: How are called the packages for kernel i686?
[12:37] <lsuactiafner> dbug : run which ssh
[12:37] <theine> bur[n] er, try "top" in a terminal and see where gam_server shows up there?
[12:37] <lsuactiafner> PHZN`away : yeh
[12:37] <action09> hi
[12:37] <holycow> http://gobolinux.org/index.php?lang=en_US&page=doc/articles/clueless  <-- interesting
[12:37] <lsuactiafner> PHZN`away : run ifconfig -a
[12:37] <SGershon> penguinbrat: How many time you're in the linx world?
[12:37] <penguinbrat> SGershon: it just means those apps will use machine code that only the 686 has...
[12:37] <dbug> lsuactiafner: gives me /usr/bin/ssh
[12:37] <lsuactiafner> bur[n] er : ps auxww | grep -i gam
[12:37] <varg> Whats wrong if i cant view xpm-files?
[12:37] <PHZN`away> lsuactiafner, thanks.
[12:38] <PHZN`away> Not sure about your problem though.
[12:38] <PHZN`away> Check out mingw.org
[12:38] <Stormx2> Does anyone know about multisync?
[12:38] <penguinbrat> SGershon: linx world?
[12:38] <PHZN`away> http://www.mingw.org/
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> suppose reading is the way to figure it out
[12:38] <eedge> estrata, I don't know what to suggest then, sorry.
[12:38] <PHZN`away> Yeah, it usually helps.
[12:38] <SGershon> penguinbrat: Using/Leaning the linux environment...
[12:38] <eedge> anyone here successfully managed to get skype running through a proxy?
[12:39] <SGershon> penguinbrat: Because you know it very well.
[12:39] <LjL> is there a single, quick command to purge all the packages that were removed?
[12:39] <penguinbrat> SGershon: I started with linux, when Slackware was the only distro I think - when the 1.2.13 kernel was the latest and greatest kernel - around 10-15 yrs ago...
[12:40] <SGershon> penguinbrat: 10-15 years ago!
[12:40] <SGershon> Wow!
[12:40] <action09> is there a smp boot install option available on Breezy please ?
[12:40] <bur[n] er> lsuactiafner: what's that do for me?
[12:40] <warreng> should the default install of ubuntu's gimp be able to open adobe .psd's?
[12:40] <penguinbrat> SGershon: yeah - you think your having problems, the big thing then was just getting PPP to work over your modem... lol
[12:40] <alabatros> i was 4yo 15 yrs ago
[12:41] <bur[n] er> theine: top shows 492 megs virtual and 228 megs reserved
[12:41] <SGershon> penguinbrat: Well, now I feel better about the 3 weeks struggling to get my NIC to work.
[12:41] <geirb> what do I need to install to play mp3s? Is there an apt-get ?
[12:41] <bur[n] er> warreng: not with layer support
[12:41] <penguinbrat> SGershon: lol
[12:41] <warreng> bur[n] er: is that something that can be added?
[12:41] <bur[n] er> warreng: no... gimp uses .xcf file format
[12:41] <Stormx2> Yeah baby! I just syncronised my Orange SPV e200 with ubuntu!!
[12:41] <penguinbrat> geirb: xmms will play the fine =)
[12:42] <alabatros> !tell geirb about mp3
[12:42] <geirb> penguinbrat, It doesn't
[12:42] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about EVMS? or device dm-7?
[12:42] <Stormx2> geirb: use beep-media-player
[12:42] <Stormx2> geirb: Thats a nicer version of XMMS
[12:42] <bur[n] er> f it, i'm just gonna kill gam and see what happens ;)
[12:42] <penguinbrat> geirb: do a search for xmms on the symantic pack man - and look for plugins... I installed a hand full before playing with it...
[12:42] <warreng> bur[n] er: is there anyway to convert? i have a bunch of .psd's that i need to see what they contain... even if there's no layers
[12:43] <SGershon> penguinbrat: You know, about 6-7 years ago I was in the unversity,and got bitten by the linux bug, so we made a Nerdy Linux Party, and got friends to install Debian, and i used Linux for quite a while. But then suddenly I just got tired and slowly stopped using it. Now I'm trying to learn again.
[12:43] <bur[n] er> warreng: u can open them with gimp I think... otherwise try "gthumb" and then resave it as a .png or .jpg or .xcf
[12:43] <penguinbrat> warreng: gimp can open psd's, the layers just get all screwed up... or the effects do - one of them...
[12:43] <SGershon> penguinbrat: But I was no guru back then either. I knew only the basic commands.
[12:44] <eedge> !tell me about mp3
[12:44] <eedge> !tell me about wma
[12:44] <warreng> hrm.... maybe these pdf's are screwed up then? cause they're not opening in either gimp or gthumb
[12:44] <PHZN`away> So, apparently my machine's NIC is up, but not working for some reason.
[12:44] <penguinbrat> SGershon: there is alot to linux, you can do pretty much anything you want with her it just takes patients, googling and alot of reading ;-)
[12:44] <lsuactiafner> eedge : restricted ..
[12:45] <SGershon> penguinbrat: And a big dose of IRC as well! Anyway... where/what are the packages that updates my 386 kernel to i686?
[12:45] <eedge> noted :)
[12:45] <penguinbrat> warreng: pdf or psd? use xpdf or something to view the pdf's....
[12:45] <warreng> psd
[12:45] <cevizoglu> penguinbrat, really?  me and several patients from the mental hospital tried to make linux into a cloud but it didn't work
[12:45] <warreng> maybe i don't have some lib installed?
[12:45] <PHZN`away> My switch is showing an something as active on plug 3 (the one my Ubuntu machine is on), but Ubuntu isn't making any connections out for some reason.
[12:45] <PHZN`away> Anyone know why?
[12:46] <PHZN`away> Someone should publish a comprehensive encyclopedia on Linux
[12:46] <penguinbrat> cevizoglu: lol - well your first problem was that you where trying to take something from cyber space and bring it into reality - can be tough sometimes ;-)
[12:46] <fluvvell> darn it, who was I chatting with?
[12:46] <PHZN`away> You could seriously make a 100 volume set on it.
[12:46] <fluvvell> lost all my history
[12:47] <annex> PHZN`away: linuxopedia?
[12:47] <lsuactiafner> PHZN`away : ubuntu wiki and gentoo help is enough
[12:47] <cevizoglu> PHZN`away, but in the meantim, checkout print.google.com or the linux documentation project  :)
[12:47] <penguinbrat> SGershon: do a search for 686, and install linux-image-2.6.12.... and the restricted modules for it...
[12:47] <PHZN`away> I know there's online documentation and stuff, but imagine an annual linux encyclopedia.
[12:48] <jamest> hey all
[12:48] <jamest> whatsup
[12:48] <amonkey> what can i use to play qualcomm purevoice (qcp) format audio?
[12:48] <cevizoglu> PHZN`away, like the tree-killing kind?
[12:48] <estrata> can anyone help me get sound in hoary with a via 82xx sound card?
[12:48] <jamest> estrata , depends...
[12:48] <penguinbrat> jamest: hey there
[12:48] <jamest> you could have a lot of stuff up
[12:48] <estrata> jamest on what
[12:48] <PHZN`away> cevizoglu, exactly.
[12:48] <jamest> i would first test out the alsa settings...sometimes there is a weird thing checked off in the volume control
[12:49] <jamest> hang on let me see what its called
[12:49] <estrata> in alsamixer?
[12:49] <fluvvell> theine, was I just talking to you?
[12:49] <jamest> yes
[12:50] <jamest> are you a gnomie or a kde person
[12:50] <SGershon> penguinbrat: a questoin: After a big fight, My eth0 is now working (It still an unknown device tough). If I change the kernel version, I'll probably loose the driver configuratoin and risc being un-networkable again, right?
[12:50] <SGershon> penguinbrat: I'm afraid of ruining it.
[12:50] <jamest> estrata should be on the aux line
[12:50] <warreng> anybody here speak french? :)
[12:50] <jamest> oui
[12:50] <jamest> no jk
[12:50] <budluva> can someone help me get x going again? i had a problem last night where x crashed, and for some reason its not spitting out errors, no EE's in /var/log/Xorg.log.0 or anything, i dont know why its crashing....more info here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4009
[12:50] <estrata> jamest, i'm using gmone
[12:50] <Kyral> warreng, #ubuntu-fr
[12:50] <zblach> hi
[12:50] <fluvvell> theine, sorry I got disconnected - I was expounding how find -anewer didn't, and asked if you could try find -anewer <file> -ls
[12:50] <zblach> how can I use a gmail account for some online space?
[12:51] <jamest> does anyone know if there is a "testing" branch of ubuntu?
[12:51] <penguinbrat> SGershon: no, the settings wont change - they are in a txt file somewhere in /etc... the configs really dont care what kernel is working as long as the driver is there...
[12:51] <Kyral> jamest, the closest thing to testing is Dapper ;P
[12:51] <jamest> i'm a fbsd devo and thought i might offer some stuff
[12:51] <budluva> JamesDotCom dapper
[12:51] <jamest> what are the debs?
[12:51] <estrata> Jamest, i used alsamixer to switch to aux and the volume is all the way up.. no sound ;(
[12:51] <lsuactiafner> budluva : might be a bad idea but try cd /tmp && rm -rf *  <--- AND BE SO FSCKING SURE YOU ARE IN /tmp !!!!!! !!!! run pwd before you run that command
[12:51] <jamest> estrata , no there should be something that blocks the line in
[12:52] <budluva> jamest rename all of breezy to dapper and apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:52] <cianci> hi, i am a little confused about repositories, could someone explain that to me?
[12:52] <jamest> budluva thats what i was referring do...thanks
[12:52] <SGershon> penguinbrat: Ok, and I'll have the two options in GRUB, or i686 will overwrite the 386?
[12:52] <Kyral> cianci, PMSG
[12:52] <PHZN`away> Can someone help me out a little here?  My switch is showing an something as active on plug 3 (the one my Ubuntu machine is on), but Ubuntu isn't making any connections out for some reason.
[12:52] <cianci> pmsg?
[12:52] <doudou4drt> hi i am new to ubuntu..i have a problem with the bootup..it's taking too long to configure the network interfaces...any ideas?
[12:52] <estrata> jamest, should i lock or unlock line in, it's unlocked now
[12:52] <penguinbrat> SGershon: im pretty sure it zaps the 386 kernels, out of the grub menu anyhow...
[12:52] <lsuactiafner> PHZN`away : ifconfig shows your device is up with an ip?
[12:53] <stephenDM> Just recently installed Breezy on Toshiba L25 laptop -- doesn't recognize battery -- are there additional power management packages to install?
[12:53] <PHZN`away> Lemme check real quick
[12:53] <Kyral> cianci, its too busy in here, Private MSG
[12:53] <lsuactiafner> PHZN`away : then run route.. route add default gw 192.168.0.1 eth0 something like that might help
[12:53] <penguinbrat> doudou4drt: what is your network setup like?
[12:53] <zblach> anyone here use gmail as some online space?
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> zblach : sorta..
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> zblach : got like 100mb used
[12:54] <zblach> lsuactiafner, how'd you set it up?
[12:54] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about EVMS? or device dm-7?
[12:54] <estrata> exit
[12:54] <doudou4drt> i got a wifi and a nic card installed...i am using the wifi and disabled the NIC card
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> zblach : i just email myself things..
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> nothing special
[12:54] <estrata> network interface card card
[12:55] <PHZN`away> lsuactiafner, it's not showing an IP in ifconfig
[12:55] <pie> Goodmorning everybody, can anybody explane me how I make a 2e harddisk work? The system keeps telling me "that I have no rights..
[12:55] <sorush20> why can't I upgrade to the new version of firefox and thunderbird with the ubuntu?
[12:55] <puff> zblach:  I remember hearing about some thing called googledrive, probably windows thing tho.  Might be someting like that for linux.
[12:55] <lsuactiafner> PHZN`away : ifconfig eth0 up 192.168.0.2
[12:55] <penguinbrat> doudou4drt: its been a while since I messed with wifi, is it dhcp do you know? have you noticed the problem in windoze - note that windoze will config the net in the background...
[12:56] <lsuactiafner> route add default gw 192.168.0.1 eth0     assuming eth0 is your device
[12:56] <lsuactiafner> and your gateway is 192.168.0.1
[12:56] <pie> Help!
[12:56] <PHZN`away> I want the machine's IP to be 192.168.1.101
[12:56] <pie> anybody...?
[12:56] <doudou4drt> i had not problems with windoze..i am using dhcp with the wifi
[12:57] <penguinbrat> pie: stupid question but what is a "2e" hard drive?
[12:57] <doudou4drt> should i switch to static?
[12:57] <fluvvell> pie,  make a 2e harddisk - exactly what is a 2e ?
[12:57] <lsuactiafner> well change the ips appropriatly
[12:57] <budluva> is there anyway to eject my dvd drive via console? eject button isnt working
[12:57] <topyli> doudou4drt: dhcp seems to be dodgy on some networks on breezy. doesn't work on my university net, but works just fine at home
[12:57] <PHZN`away> Alright, thanks
[12:58] <pie> penguinbrat: the 1e is to little, so I added another , but it seems not to work..
[12:58] <penguinbrat> doudou4drt: if you can use static then yeah - the system wont really care if it works or not it will just set the card up with those settings...
[12:58] <topyli> doudou4drt: many bugs in ubuntu and debian bugzillas, with lots of duplicates. none of them resolved
[12:58] <doudou4drt> ok
[12:58] <topyli> doudou4drt: no it's not ok :)
[12:58] <penguinbrat> pie: but what is the 1e and 2e - nvr heard of them...
[12:59] <johnwm> eject cdrom
[12:59] <SGershon> penguinbrat: Ok, I checked out the 386 packages, and checked in the relative 686 ones. Applying now...
[12:59] <fluvvell> pie: do you mean a drive as secondary on a ide (e) or scsi (e) or sd(e) or something?
[12:59] <pie> penguinbrat: ..? you meen names..?
[12:59] <penguinbrat> pie: yeah... are they just normal harddrives?
[12:59] <pie> penguinbrat: yes!
[01:00] <doudou4drt> i got say the wifi configuration was much more easier than on suse...i had to use modprobe ndiswrapper everytime to use the wifi..don't have the prob on ubuntu
[01:00] <pie> penguinbrat: It's seen as 'harddisk' , but I don't get any acces to it..
[01:00] <dbugg> I can't figure this out: when trying to compile psybnc with ssl support it doesn't find the openssl binary even though it is there and I provided it with the right path
[01:00] <sizzam> what command can i use to identify what kind of processor i have
[01:01] <lsuactiafner> sizzam : cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:01] <penguinbrat> pie: do an "ls -l /dev/hd*" to see what group owns those drives (hda,hdb,hdc,hdd,etc...) and then make sure your are in that group with "id"...
[01:01] <pie> penguinbrat: How do I get 'rights' to the 2e harddisk?
[01:02] <solidgroove> doudou4drt, did you try ndiswrapper -m and activate the connection?
[01:02] <lsuactiafner> hdparm -I /dev/sd or /dev/hd whatever device..
[01:03] <vbhanu> Hi, can someone tell me if we can stream avi/mp3 files hosted on an ftp
[01:03] <PHZN`away> Finally, I got my ethernet working.
[01:03] <penguinbrat> pie: if its a normal ide harddisk, it will show up as /dev/hd[abcd]  - which should be owned by root and disk...
[01:03] <PHZN`away> SSH time
[01:03] <Nogimics> Anyone installed psyBNC on a ubuntu setup?
[01:04] <doudou4drt> it detects the wifi automatically but the network configuration at the boot up seems to be hanging too long
[01:04] <pie> penguinbrat: ls -l /dev/hd* does not work, I get nothing..
[01:05] <lsuactiafner> pie : dmesg | grep -i hd
[01:05] <penguinbrat> pie: is this a scsi/usb drive or what?
[01:06] <pie> penguinbrat: IDE
[01:06] <lsuactiafner> and omw be so sure its actually powered
[01:06] <lsuactiafner> and that the BIOS sees the drive..
[01:06] <penguinbrat> pie: you should be getting something from the ls command then... does it not even give you an error?
[01:07] <lsuactiafner> penguinbrat : if dmesg | grep -i hd shows nothing then something is wrong in the BIOS or its not powered
[01:07] <lsuactiafner> wrong as in not detected..
[01:07] <pie> lsuactiafner: dmesg-thing does not work
[01:07] <pie> penguinbrat: Ls gives nothing
[01:07] <lsuactiafner> pie : then i think you should check that the BIOS detects the disk
[01:08] <penguinbrat> pie: just for a sanity check - you are trying these commands from a terminal window right?
[01:08] <PHZN`away> If I set up Apache to run, does it have to be on an openly shared directory?
[01:08] <pie> penguinbrat: I'm be able to se the Hd, but get no acces
[01:08] <lsuactiafner> and using sudo...
[01:08] <lsuactiafner> penguinbrat : *cringe*
[01:08] <pie> lsuactiafner: It's all there, Bios etc
[01:09] <pie> penguinbrat: yes
[01:09] <penguinbrat> pie: bring up your user/group editor and see what groups your in - it doesnt make any since that dmesg doesnt even work... =(
[01:10] <lsuactiafner> is he using sudo?
[01:10] <penguinbrat> lsuactiafner: ls should still work, and I dont need sudo for anything I've mentioned so far =/
[01:10] <PHZN`away> How do I save and exit out of vi?
[01:10] <K_Dallas> Q: How do i deactivate system beeping? at night that causes me lots of problems ;) thanks
[01:10] <lsuactiafner> PHZN`away : type :q
[01:10] <K_Dallas> PHZN`away, :! or something like that ;) get a short manual and read it
[01:10] <lsuactiafner> should ask you to save
[01:11] <lsuactiafner> but i hate vi
[01:11] <keir> has anyone got matplotlib to work with breezy? right now, i a) can't find packages, and b) compiling is failing with crazy errors (probably gcc4)
[01:11] <lsuactiafner> i prefer joe or mcedit.. mcedit has menus but its console..
[01:11] <keir> matplotlib? anyone?
[01:11] <lsuactiafner> mcedit.. apt-get install mc
[01:11] <eedge> maybe someone can help : http://pastebin.com/416664, trying to install wma plugin for bmp.
[01:12] <lsuactiafner> PHZN`away : mc is very usefull
[01:12] <lsuactiafner> eedge : wma for bmp?!
[01:13] <pie> penguinbrat: there is no group where i'm in..?1? Can this be possible?
[01:13] <lsuactiafner> eedge : the ubuntu locate avcodec.h
[01:13] <lsuactiafner> eedge : the ubuntu avcodec.h is fscked up
[01:13] <lsuactiafner> eedge : mplayer ppl recommend you just delete it as most packages include it anyway
[01:13] <penguinbrat> pie: I suppose it would be possible - what did you use to see the groups?
[01:14] <lsuactiafner> eedge : so just locate avcodec.h    and   mv file backup
[01:14] <eedge> .... eh? :)
[01:14] <eedge> lol
[01:14] <pie> File manager
[01:14] <Skaarg> I was wondering if I could get some help with booting ubuntu AMD64 version on my comp?
[01:14] <keir> err, in case i missed it... anyone got Matplotlib and Breezy working?
[01:14] <Skaarg> It gets an Ok when loading everything and then after that it goes to a black screen plays the startup sound and locks up
[01:14] <lsuactiafner> Skaarg : what version of ubuntu?
[01:15] <Skaarg> 5.10 live cd
[01:15] <eedge> dont I kind of need that file though?
[01:15] <eedge> ...
[01:15] <eedge> heh
[01:15] <penguinbrat> Skaarg: whqat video card to have?
[01:15] <lsuactiafner> Skaarg : i had the problem with 5.04 but i just made my own kernel to fix it.. prolly a problem with display card.. try vga=normal when you bootup.. just might work.. though i use lilo...
[01:15] <cyphase> why do user accounts have access to things they don't need access to?
[01:16] <Skaarg> it's a dual chipset Geforce 6600 GT
[01:16] <cyphase> hmm..
[01:16] <TTilus> cyphase: such as?
[01:16] <pie> penguinbrat: How do I keep the window open, when I run in terminal?
[01:16] <cyphase> my bad :)
[01:16] <cyphase> lol
[01:16] <lsuactiafner> my 6600 works.. though not dual
[01:16] <kikidonk> hi people !
[01:16] <cyphase> i was going to sat /etc..
[01:16] <cyphase> but they need that
[01:16] <cef> anyone had issues with lvm on top of software raid 1 in breezy?
[01:16] <SGershon> penguinbrat: How do you said we can do to change the resolution in xinemax? Using what combinatoin of ctrl-+??
[01:16] <kikidonk> we've been doing an ubuntu install party yesterday at our university, now we are going to give a little linux/ubuntu crash course to interested people
[01:17] <lsuactiafner> someone prolly compiled nvidia framebuffer support without thinking about it..
[01:17] <kikidonk> do you have any pointers to some backup for this ?
[01:17] <penguinbrat> pie: well, that could be an issue - I have one of the later nvidia cards, and the driver that it is given by default does not like the card at all - acts really weird... you may be in the same boat...
[01:17] <cef> I had /var go read only on a such a box today.. *sigh*
[01:17] <kikidonk> like pre-made courses, tutorials
[01:17] <kikidonk> what to talk about
[01:17] <cyphase> kikidonk, do you have a webcam?
[01:17] <cyphase> ;)
[01:17] <Skaarg> k
[01:17] <kikidonk> cyphase: no :)
[01:17] <eedge> lsuactiafner, don't I need that file at all then?
[01:17] <lsuactiafner> penguinbrat : i use the nvidia.com drivers...
[01:18] <penguinbrat> SGershon: ctrl+alt+[+/-]  plus and mius on the keypad - all it does is cylce through the rez's that are in the config file...
[01:18] <pie> penguinbrat: Be right back, just going for some documentation, give me a minute or 3
[01:18] <lsuactiafner> eedge : well, gave me more problems than its worth.. and i installed ffmpeg myself.. and you can just move the file to the same place its now... but with _backup @ its end.. and your compile might just work..
[01:19] <cronik> guys,how can i play files .mov
[01:19] <cronik> ?
[01:19] <cronik> any help
[01:19] <lsuactiafner> cronik : i use mplayer
[01:19] <eedge> Ok, giving it a go now
[01:20] <penguinbrat> lsuactiafner: use that vga=normal from the boot cmd line in grub like was mentioned earlier, basically get to a normal terminal window without X running first, then make sure you dont have any errors (dmesg) from loading the nvidia module, and make sure nvidia is the driver that X is using - and not nv or something...
[01:20] <bolrod> me too
[01:20] <bolrod> mplayer with plugins
[01:20] <bolrod> or.. were it drivers
[01:20] <bolrod> cant remember
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> bolrod : no such thing as plugins.. codecs..
[01:20] <bolrod> blah
[01:20] <bolrod> my head isn't working properly today
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> though ubuntu mplayer is teh suck.. since its not cvs..
[01:20] <nuck> how do i determine the package name to install for example i need the c++ help file for kdevelop and ive installed kdevelop3-data -doc and khelpcenter but still cant access the c++ help
[01:21] <bolrod> just download the source
[01:21] <lsuactiafner> pre7try2 is sucky.. since its old old old
[01:21] <bolrod> ?
[01:21] <bolrod> oh
[01:21] <bolrod> I dont know which one I compiled
[01:21] <jordan> hello all
[01:21] <penguinbrat> penguinbrat: from the cmdline you can test X, just by entering the command "X" and CTRL+ALT+BCKSPACE to exit it... If you can get that far it should run just fine I would think...
[01:21] <eedge> lsuactiafner, renamed to avcodec.h to avcodec.backup and got same errors on make
[01:21] <jordan> can anyone help me speed up my cdrom drive?
[01:21] <bolrod> compiled CVS
[01:21] <lsuactiafner> nuck : apt-cache search c++ | grep doc
[01:22] <lsuactiafner> apt-cache search gcc| grep doc
[01:22] <lsuactiafner> eedge : link to the source code? let me see if it works for me
[01:23] <penguinbrat> jordan: you cant really speed up you cdrom other that letting is use DMA that the kernel should be doing already...
[01:23] <nuck> lsuactiafner but if its in apt-cache that means its installed alrady right?
[01:23] <lsuactiafner> got link
[01:23] <lsuactiafner> nuck : no it means the package is in some repository..
[01:23] <lsuactiafner> nuck : but the naming is confusing.. basically apt-cache searches your index of packages that are available online ect
[01:23] <penguinbrat> jordan: although I have come across some systems that the cdrom reads at like speed x1 for some reason but only when installing - is that what is happening?
[01:24] <lsuactiafner> bmp-wma-0.1.1.tar.gz:             ETA:   1:19  157.64/458.86 kB    3.83 kB/s
[01:24] <eedge> lsuactiafner, ok, http://download.berlios.de/bmp-plugins/bmp-wma-0.1.1.tar.gz
[01:24] <eedge> ok your ahead of me.
[01:24] <eedge> heh
[01:24] <bur[n] er> lsuactiafner: u want a .deb of that?
[01:24] <jordan> hey penguinbrat, like when I am ripping music - it does it at like 1.2x
[01:24] <eedge> 3.83 KB/s? you on dialup...
[01:24] <lsuactiafner> bur[n] er : eedge does..
[01:24] <eedge> I do! I do!
[01:24] <eedge> lol
[01:24] <lsuactiafner> eedge : yeh
[01:24] <jordan> when I had windows (yuck) it ripped at like 9x
[01:25] <bur[n] er> eedge: check yer msgs
[01:25] <lsuactiafner> eedge : luckly there is a local gentoo mirror.. else it will be @ 1k/s
[01:25] <eedge> Dialup is evil.
[01:25] <Delvien> what command to run the screenshot program in KDE
[01:25] <penguinbrat> jordan: I havent ripped much, but that "may" be because it is doing other things at the same time or something, just a guess though...
[01:25] <lsuactiafner> eedge : anything else is too expensive in south-africa..
[01:25] <bur[n] er> eedge: i sent ya another one
[01:26] <lsuactiafner> currupt governemnt cant manage to privitise telecoms
[01:26] <penguinbrat> Delvien: ksnapshot i think
[01:26] <lsuactiafner> and they dont realise telecoms is related to economics growth
[01:26] <pie> penguinbrat: Made some thing work a little
[01:26] <penguinbrat> jordan: one thing it could be trying to do is getting around some copy protection...
[01:27] <amonkey> is there something i need to do to be able to mount an iso thats on a samba share? i tried smb://
[01:27] <lsuactiafner> eedge : i have checking for bmp >= 0.9.7 no.. so check bur[n] er's link.. else i'll have to install a dependancy...
[01:27] <penguinbrat> pie: you solve some things?
[01:27] <lsuactiafner> amonkey : mount //ip/share_name /mnt/mount_point
[01:27] <jordan> how do I check that my drive is setup to use DMA?
[01:27] <pie> penguinbrat: How do I go to the root? I get the error: "Only the 'root' can do that"
[01:28] <amonkey> i can't mount the iso with loop without mounting the network share?
[01:28] <penguinbrat> pie: use 'sudo ....' , it will ask you for your password - enter it and it will run the program...
[01:28] <eedge> lsuactiafner, used bur[n] er's link, worked great :)
[01:28] <lsuactiafner> amonkey : if on netowrk dont use loop
[01:28] <lsuactiafner> amonkey : if the file is on your own disk use loop
[01:29] <lsuactiafner> eedge : cool
[01:29] <amonkey> lsuactiafner, i get special device smb://blah does not exist., but i can get to it through naut
[01:30] <ColD_7> how come all of a sudden, i cant view certain website
[01:30] <lsuactiafner> amonkey : run df and see where its mounted..
[01:30] <ColD_7> when i click to yahoo mail, it is redirecting me to hotmail
[01:30] <ColD_7> and some other website as well
[01:31] <lsuactiafner> amonkey : but i think you didnt use //ip/share_name /mnt/existing_mount_point
[01:31] <pie> penguinbrat: I don't get any luck..
[01:31] <lsuactiafner> amonkey : smbclient -L ip
[01:31] <penguinbrat> amonkey: also realize that naut uses its own internals to "virtually" mount the smb share - ie its not really doing it... you need to install the smbmount apps to actually mount it...
[01:31] <pie> penguinbrat: I don't get any luck..Itriet to 'mount the hdd, but it gives the error: "no acces"
[01:31] <penguinbrat> pie: did you try it as root?
[01:32] <penguinbrat> pie: meaning sudo?
[01:32] <pie> penguinbrat: I don't get any luck..Itriet to 'mount the hdd, but it gives the error: "no acces"With the sudo part it does not find anything...
[01:32] <lsuactiafner> apt-get install smbfs
[01:32] <marlamb_> somebody speak spanish here?
[01:32] <darkarchon> marlamb_, check #ubuntu-es
[01:33] <amonkey> lsuactiafner, how do i set the username with a space in it? i tried %20 and it got angry
[01:33] <penguinbrat> pie: is this a fresh install of the OS? because it sounds like something is screwed up somewhere with users and such...
[01:33] <amonkey> lsuactiafner, just quoted it
[01:33] <lsuactiafner> amonkey : put "name name"
[01:33] <lsuactiafner> amonkey : ie, in quotes..
[01:34] <lsuactiafner> amonkey : but its just easier all around to not use spaces @ all
[01:34] <pie> penguinbrat: I 't an empty 2e Hard-disk..
[01:34] <amonkey> lsuactiafner, kind of peeved i didn't think to do that...
[01:34] <lsuactiafner> amonkey : try \ before the space also name\ name
[01:34] <pie> mount hdd usr
[01:34] <amonkey> lsuactiafner, i meant to say, i tried quotes and it worked
[01:34] <lsuactiafner> cool
[01:35] <lsuactiafner> amonkey : am used to using the commandline.. ubuntu users aint
[01:35] <eedge> I think I'm falling in love with ubuntu.
[01:35] <nuck> lsuactiafner ok thanks... i still havent got it to work tho maybe need tto reboot
[01:35] <penguinbrat> pie: so our trying to install a fresh ubuntu to it?
[01:35] <eedge> So much so, that I've actually deleted my windows xp prof partition :P
[01:36] <lsuactiafner> nuck : you never reboot linux for something to work unless its a new kernel
[01:36] <lsuactiafner> nuck : what was your problem?
[01:36] <amonkey> lsuactiafner, that took way too much finagling to get mounted. most likely cuz of the spaces (my documents, user name)
[01:36] <amonkey> lsuactiafner, got it working, thanks
[01:36] <lsuactiafner> amonkey : try not to name anything with spaces in it
[01:36] <pie> penguinbrat: No and yess, it's just an (dos) formatted hard disk
[01:37] <lsuactiafner> i name all my mp3 folders and movies with _ in it
[01:37] <lsuactiafner> currently i have a program running with commandline options thats around 3 lines on my 1024x768x64k console
[01:38] <pie> penguinbrat: I want to use it to store data, but no acces..
[01:38] <lsuactiafner> pie : cfdisk /dev/disk
[01:38] <lsuactiafner> you might need to partition and format it
[01:38] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about EVMS? or device dm-7?
[01:38] <nuck> lsuactiafner im using kdevelop and i want to launch help in the context of the highlighted keyword say "switch" in c++ but when khelpcenter is launch it says the documentation for c/c++ is unavailable
[01:39] <lsuactiafner> nuck : i like using joe to program.. but run ldconfig
[01:39] <penguinbrat> pie: well, to be honest I dont even understand why you cant use ls to view the device files, or use the dmesg cmd... if those dont work something else is really hozed up =/
[01:39] <pie> penguinbrat: result: Fatal error: can not open disk..
[01:39] <nuck> lsuactiafner i cant switch IDE this late in my developmetn
[01:40] <penguinbrat> pie: what is that a result of?
[01:40] <lsuactiafner> apt-get install gcc-3.4-doc gcc-4.0-doc gcc-doc cpp-2.95-doc gcc272-docs
[01:40] <nuck> btw what IDE do you use for java?
[01:40] <nuck> lsuactiafner was that for me?
[01:40] <pie> penguinbrat: result: Fatal error: can not open disk..(cfdisk /dev/disk
[01:40] <nuck> oh of course :-)
[01:40] <lsuactiafner> i just use joe or mcedit.. colourises text.. and consoles to switch work...
[01:41] <lsuactiafner> pie : when i say disk i mean /dev/sdb or /dev/hdb
[01:41] <penguinbrat> pie: oh, it wont be /dev/disk - it'll be /dev/hda, /dev/hdb, /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd (one of the 4 possible drives you can have on your system)
[01:41] <lsuactiafner> or whatever the new disk is named..
[01:42] <penguinbrat> pie: you can also use "fdisk -l /dev/hd..." to get a quick listing of the partitions for that particular drive..
[01:42] <bobesponja> how can i install mplayer oon breezy, nerim doesn4t work
[01:42] <pie> penguinbrat: result: Fatal error...
[01:43] <lsuactiafner> bobesponja : apt-get build-dep mplayer      and     then compile the sourcecode.. preferably cvs
[01:43] <lsuactiafner> bobesponja : thats what i do.. though its not the ubuntu way...
[01:43] <lsuactiafner> ubuntu likes packages..
[01:43] <penguinbrat> pie: use "sudo fdisk -l [the device] ", and enter your users password
[01:43] <pie> penguinbrat: result: both commands do not find some thing (fdisk and cfdisk)
[01:44] <penguinbrat> pie: use the sudo comand in front of them...
[01:44] <pie> penguinbrat: result: BINGO>>>!
[01:44] <lsuactiafner> bobesponja : www4.mplayerhq.hu
[01:44] <pupil> whats a good program for partitioning?
[01:44] <lsuactiafner> pupil : cfdisk
[01:45] <AngryClip> pupil, gpart
[01:45] <penguinbrat> pie: kk =) you can do the same with cfdisk, just use sudo in front of the commands =)
[01:45] <lsuactiafner> cfdisk is sexier..
[01:45] <pupil> AngryClip,  does it also format?
[01:45] <pie> penguinbrat: I have my harddisk, but will it store now..?
[01:45] <Skaarg> hmm I still can't boot ubuntu I typed in noapic and nolapic, to get the boot sound to work, and then it locks up, but if I put in no paramaters it gets an OK for everything and all Isee is a white line on the screen
[01:45] <lsuactiafner> mkfs.ext3 does..
[01:45] <AngryClip> pupil, I beleive so, but not the drive you are using/are mounted
[01:45] <lsuactiafner> cfdisk then mkfs.ext3
[01:45] <AngryClip> lsuactiafner, not really
[01:46] <pupil> AngryClip,  So I have to umount before formatting? correct?
[01:46] <penguinbrat> pie: you'll have to format it... 'sudo mkfs.ext3 [device] '
[01:46] <pupil> AngryClip,  what if I already have it partitioned,. and I just want to format it
[01:46] <AngryClip> pupil, I belive so, but you are best looking at the docks
[01:46] <penguinbrat> pie: fyi, if your going to use the entire disk as one partition, you dont need to partition it, although the gui interfaces may not like that...
[01:46] <AngryClip> pupil, you *should* be ok
[01:46] <PHZN`away> Is it possible to make a script run through sudo at boot time?
[01:47] <pie> penguinbrat: oke..
[01:47] <AngryClip> pupil, if you try doing anything dodgy, it will alert you
[01:47] <lsuactiafner> PHZN`away : put the script in /etc/init.d/
[01:47] <pupil> AngryClip,  would I also use gpart for formatting, isn't there a command to format a drive ?
[01:47] <PHZN`away> And it will run as root?
[01:47] <pupil> or a partition rather?
[01:47] <lsuactiafner> PHZN`away : but its your ifconfig lines better try to figure out how to setup a netowrk device the ubuntu way....
[01:47] <koala_man> you should always partition. you lose maybe 100kb in the process, but it'll make life so much easier later
[01:47] <penguinbrat> pie: after you format it - all you have to do is edit your /etc/fstab to mount it at boot each time and your done =D
[01:48] <mc|amb> what is wrong when-> mount: can't get address for //192.168.1.3....
[01:48] <PHZN`away> brb
[01:48] <lsuactiafner> mc|amb : ping -c 2 192.168.1.3
[01:48] <lsuactiafner> mc|amb : mount //ip/share_name /mnt/existing_mount_point
[01:49] <lsuactiafner> mc|amb : apt-get install smbfs
[01:49] <lsuactiafner> ok now sleep night all
[01:49] <penguinbrat> night
[01:49] <mc|amb> lsuactiafner: thanks
[01:49] <pie> penguinbrat: format is done
[01:50] <penguinbrat> pie: do 'sudo mkdir /mnt/storage' or something - essentially make a directory where you want to mount the harddrive...
[01:50] <vbhanu> what is the command to start midnight commander?
[01:50] <penguinbrat> mc i think
[01:50] <gimmulf> Cant figure out howto use xlockmore-gl could someone help me?
[01:50] <vbhanu> k
[01:51] <gimmulf> !xlock
[01:51] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, gimmulf
[01:51] <koochi> !dma
[01:51] <penguinbrat> gimmulf: have you tried the man page for it?
[01:51] <lsuactiafner> apt-get install vbhanu
[01:51] <lsuactiafner> apt-get install mc
[01:51] <penguinbrat> gimmulf: ive nvr used it or I would tell you =P
[01:52] <gimmulf> penguinbrat:  yes man xlock but cant find anything useful
[01:52] <gimmulf> that i understand
[01:52] <lsuactiafner> vbhanu : if mc looks funky just type reset and press enter
[01:52] <pie> penguinbrat: mounting does not work so far, any ideas..
[01:52] <penguinbrat> pie: you need to put the sudo cmd first like the other cmds... what is the error?
[01:53] <mc|amb> lsuactiafner: after sudo mount //192.168.1.3/rar /mnt/win
[01:53] <mc|amb> timeout connecting to 192.168.1.3:445
[01:53] <mc|amb>   timeout connecting to 192.168.1.3:139
[01:53] <mc|amb> Error connecting to 192.168.1.3 (Operation already in progress)
[01:53] <mc|amb> 19333: Connection to 192.168.1.3 failed
[01:53] <mc|amb> SMB connection failed
[01:53] <PHZN`away> Can someone help me change the commands used to configure my network card at boot time?
[01:54] <lsuactiafner> mc|amb : run df
[01:54] <mc|amb> lsuactiafner: done
[01:54] <mc|amb> lsuactiafner: what next, sorry to bother
[01:55] <vbhanu> lsuactiafner : got it, i had not installer the midnight commander thank you
[01:55] <penguinbrat> gimmulf: i just installed it, and there doesnt apear to be a cmd for it - the screensavers for gnome/kde will lock the system too, is that what your trying to do?
[01:55] <wario> hi!!, somebody from Mexico, or Latinamerica
[01:55] <Skaarg> when I but the ubuntu live cd I type live noapic nolapic, and I get to where I atleast have some sound, but then after the startup sound it locks up any ideas?
[01:55] <pupil> if I want to umount a partition.. do I simply umount /media/hdc6 ?
[01:55] <lsuactiafner> mc|amb : might have told you its already mouned.. if you run mount it will tell you for sure
[01:56] <gimmulf> penguinbrat:  yes, some kind of password protected screensaver
[01:56] <pie> penguinbrat: command not found
[01:56] <mc|amb> lsuactiafner: it didn't work
[01:56] <PHZN`away> Where is the script that configures my eth0 at boot time?
[01:56] <amonkey> is there a way i can freeze my nic? i just want to not let any data through for small period of time
[01:56] <penguinbrat> gimmulf: scratch that - the cmd line version is simply /usr/X11R6/bin/xlock by itself, it blacks the screen to a screen saver and wants your passwd to give your system back...
[01:57] <mc|amb> what do i have to do to the dir in the windows comp in order to share it???
[01:57] <gimmulf> penguinbrat:  ahhh now it workd thatnks, nice
[01:57] <penguinbrat> gimmulf: although in either window manager, under the screen saver section, there is an option to require a password when restoring the session...
[01:58] <gimmulf> oki, thanks
[01:58] <lsuactiafner> mc|amb : share it normally like you would for a windows pc.. then run apt-get install smbfs  then smbclient... then smbclient -L ip and then everything should be clear..
[01:58] <penguinbrat> pie: here do this... 'sudo nano /etc/fstab'
[01:58] <lsuactiafner> mc|amb : ping -c 2 192.168.1.3
[01:58] <lsuactiafner> bed now
[01:58] <lsuactiafner> i have a headache already
[01:58] <lsuactiafner> Fri Nov  4 03:00:28 SAST 2005
[01:58] <PHZN`away> Can someone help me change the commands used to configure my network card at boot time?
[01:58] <alex_> i need help
[01:59] <penguinbrat> pie: and add at the bottom of the file... /dev/[device]     /mnt/storage   ext3   defaults   0 0
[01:59] <mc|amb> lsuactiafner, thanks i'll see what i can do
[01:59] <lsuactiafner> PHZN`away : this time of day few ppl are here to help.. seveas is an ubuntu master.
[01:59] <pie> penguinbrat: yess, and now?
[01:59] <GnuKemist> does anybody know if you can install Breezy and choose linux-686 from the start?
[02:00] <lsuactiafner> Seveas crimsun one of em always helps me
[02:00] <PHZN`away> And they're not here, are they?
[02:00] <lsuactiafner> sleepin
[02:00] <PHZN`away> Figures.
[02:00] <penguinbrat> GnuKemist: i dont think you can, once everything is installed you can change kernels to the 686 version though...
[02:00] <PHZN`away> When I need people, they're not present.
[02:01] <penguinbrat> pie: after you have that in there and saved, all you have to do is 'sudo mount -a'
[02:01] <GnuKemist> Penguin__, thought so...  wished you could just install it from the get go
[02:01] <GnuKemist> Penguin__, thanx
[02:01] <GnuKemist> thanx
[02:01] <alex_> How can i get msn in linux
[02:01] <choizy> I just installed ubuntu. But when i remove the cd and boot again it hangs up on loading the module hotplug subsystem. Annyone that are familiar with this problem ?
[02:01] <penguinbrat> alex_: gaim....
[02:01] <choizy> Alex: gaim
[02:02] <choizy> sorry. To slow.
[02:02] <lsuactiafner> PHZN`away : might be a gnome menu for it
[02:02] <lsuactiafner> PHZN`away : but i dont use menus.. just blackbox and xterms..
[02:02] <alex_> or the web page to download it
[02:02] <penguinbrat> choizy: there is somehardware that the kernel isnt liking for some reason- could just be the order, or something... what are you installing on?
[02:03] <lsuactiafner> *gone*
[02:03] <choizy> penguinbrat: Asus A6000V, notebook
[02:04] <penguinbrat> choizy: hmm, k - the last time I had this issue was with redhat on a notebook - it didnt like the firewire =( try adding "no acpi" to the kernel boot parms - you know how to do that from grub?
[02:05] <mc|amb> whats wrong when--> error connecting to *ip* (no route to host)
[02:05] <choizy> penguinbrat: Just adding a new line under, root, kernel, initrd, boot ?
[02:05] <alex_> heeeeeeeeeellllllllllpppppppppp
[02:05] <choizy> mc|amb: your network isn't configured right I guess. Might be missing a gateway.
[02:05] <pie> penguinbrat: done it all you told me, but does it work?
[02:06] <pie> penguinbrat: hang-on, I'll check it for a moment
[02:06] <mc|amb> choizy: do you know how can i configure it?
[02:06] <choizy> mc|amb: How did you configure the network. If you do a ifconfig and past the result in a msg I can check it out.
[02:06] <jamest> do we know of broken packages in dapper that i can work on?
[02:06] <penguinbrat> choizy: well, trhats the perm way to do it, when grub comes up to select an OS, highlight the kernel, hit 'e', it will bring you to another screen, highlight the one with all the options on it and add the no acpi option to it...
[02:06] <jamest> alex_ what is the problem?
[02:06] <penguinbrat> choizy: then hit enter, and then 'b' to boot the modified version...
[02:06] <mc|amb> choizy: thanks, just a sec
[02:07] <choizy> penguinbrat: thanks, I'll try it.
[02:07] <infested_maggot> hello guys
[02:07] <penguinbrat> pie: type in 'df', if everything worked it will show up in the list of mounted devices...
[02:07] <frogzoo> or 'mount'
[02:08] <alex_> i cant install the msn
[02:08] <philippe_> hi
[02:08] <odie5533> There anyway to get netbeans on ubuntu?
[02:08] <jamest> MSN?
[02:08] <mc|amb> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:A1:19:C9:40
[02:08] <mc|amb>           inet addr:192.168.1.4  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[02:08] <mc|amb>           inet6 addr: fe80::208:a1ff:fe19:c940/64 Scope:Link
[02:08] <mc|amb>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[02:08] <mc|amb>           RX packets:698186 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[02:08] <mc|amb>           TX packets:397310 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:1 carrier:0
[02:08] <mc|amb>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[02:08] <mc|amb>           RX bytes:868778380 (828.5 MiB)  TX bytes:28883048 (27.5 MiB)
[02:08] <philippe_> How do you set up a VPN in ubuntu?
[02:08] <mc|amb>           Interrupt:11 Base address:0xec00
[02:08] <mc|amb> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[02:08] <odie5533> mc|amb, STOP
[02:08] <frogzoo> dude - please don't paste here
[02:08] <mc|amb>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[02:08] <gleesond> can ubuntu take rpm's?
[02:08] <mc|amb>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[02:08] <choizy> mc|amb: not in the channel :d
[02:08] <mc|amb>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
[02:08] <mc|amb>           RX packets:289931 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[02:08] <mc|amb>           TX packets:289931 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[02:08] <aeon17x> mc|amb: pastebin, dude
[02:08] <mc|amb>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[02:08] <penguinbrat> alex_: there isn't an 'msn' persay for linux - the program 'gaim' supports the msn protocal... you can use it to chat with just like msn...
[02:08] <jamest> philippe_ , you need a soft pkg
[02:08] <mc|amb>           RX bytes:21521896 (20.5 MiB)  TX bytes:21521896 (20.5 MiB)
[02:08] <pie> penguinbrat: yes, it's there but how do I get writing acces..?
[02:08] <choizy> He's trying to past it in an msg to me.
[02:08] <philippe_> jamest:  which one?
[02:08] <aeon17x> !tell mc|amb about pastebin
[02:08] <jamest> gleesond , alien
[02:08] <mc|amb> how??? i dunno how to. sorry
[02:08] <jamest> philippe_ , GOOGLE! :)
[02:09] <philippe_> ok
[02:09] <alex_> oooo thanks i neww in this
[02:09] <infested_maggot> can anyone help me with this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4051 ?!?
[02:09] <bimberi> gleesond: yes, (using alien) but you should try hard to find an ubuntu package first
[02:09] <jamest> philippe_ , run apt-cache search vpn
[02:09] <pie> penguinbrat: it's '755' when I check it
[02:09] <frogzoo> philippe - ssh maybe?
[02:09] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about EVMS? or what device dm-7 might be?
[02:09] <eedge> eeeeeeek, I don't know what to do now... I think I have everything set up that I want to set up :P
[02:09] <jamest> frogzoo , yes you do but it must be tunnelled
[02:09] <Waerer> my breezy, plays slow vcd...need help
[02:09] <gleesond> I need to have iscan for my scanner to work properly but I could not find it in the deb repositories
[02:10] <gleesond> I tried to install from the source and it didn't like me, so I thought I could install from a rmp
[02:10] <philippe_> other quick question, what is a daemon by definition?
[02:10] <choizy> mc|amb: Type /msg choizy infront of every message
[02:10] <jamest> gleesond , well you might be missing a dependecy...
[02:10] <penguinbrat> pie: there are 2 ways to do this... change a few things in the fstab file, or simply make a directory under /mnt/storage and then change the permisions on it ;-)
[02:11] <jamest> gleesond , man alien
[02:11] <alex_> penguinbrat: if i am using ubunto witch do i download
[02:11] <gleesond> thats the problem is that I don't know where to look for the needed dependancies
[02:11] <jamest> gleesond , the command is alien so it would be something like       alien --to-deb <PKG>
[02:11] <gleesond> ok
[02:11] <jamest> gleesond , well it would break the ./configure
[02:11] <choizy> mc|amb: are you still here ?
[02:12] <penguinbrat> alex_: just do a search for gaim in the synamptic pac man, and install the first 2 listing you will see (gaim, and gaim-data)
[02:12] <nickrud> philippe_, a background process (wikipedia)
[02:12] <jamest> alex_, fuck that...just do an apt-get install gaim
[02:12] <pie> penguinbrat: How?
[02:12] <frogzoo> philippe a daemon is a program that executes in the background, and provides some kind of general service
[02:12] <solidgroove> I make a script that uses wine (cedega) to run a game (steam) but I get a wine error about permissions for accessing the directory that the EXE is in that the script runs
[02:12] <vbhanu> RiverRat: did you notice this section of the abstract "By simply mounting the server on a local directory, the user is able to access files on remote FTP servers just as if they were local files."
[02:13] <pie> penguinbrat: I do not get any acces, is there a way around?
[02:13] <jamest> solidgroove , chmod
[02:13] <jamest> man chmod
[02:13] <jamest> or run as root
[02:13] <vbhanu> RiverRat: i do not think mc does that
[02:13] <masterloki> can someone help me with this http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/post-318811.html
[02:13] <solidgroove> chmod which files... everything is 777
[02:13] <jamest> always a better idea with any emu
[02:13] <solidgroove> and the script is +x
[02:13] <infested_maggot> can anyone help me with this error please: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4051 ?!?
[02:13] <gma> jdub, Charlottetown is "60 minutes from the confederation bridge"
[02:13] <jamest> masterloki , you need to be more specific...i only have one term open for this irc client
[02:13] <gma> http://www.visitcharlottetown.com/about/faq.cfm
[02:14] <penguinbrat> pie: changing the permissions or changing the fstab?
[02:14] <jamest> what the dece
[02:14] <jamest> DON"T CHANGE FSTAB UNLESS YOU KNOW WTF YOU ARE DOING
[02:14] <pie> penguinbrat: fstab
[02:14] <jamest> you comp may not boot
[02:14] <jamest> pie , just cp the /dev loc
[02:14] <aeon17x> Jamest: That's why we make backups. :)
[02:15] <jamest> aeon17x , the whole point is to never have to use them!
[02:15] <vlady> hola
[02:15] <jamest> hola
[02:15] <jamest> como esta?
[02:15] <vlady> alguien  me  puede  ayudar?
[02:15] <jamest> si
[02:15] <aeon17x> jamest: But we're human. We make mistakes, and we're incredibly good at doing so. Hence backups.
[02:15] <jamest> hablo espanol un poco
[02:15] <Hobz> IRC!
[02:15] <vlady> ok
[02:15] <jamest> aeon17x , yea
[02:15] <alex_> jamest> hablas espanol
[02:16] <vlady> acabo  de  instalar  ubuntu  en  mi  equipo  y  no  me  reconoxce  el  mouse
[02:16] <jamest> hablo italiano :)
[02:16] <penguinbrat> pie: just use the diectory way, it will be more permanent and you wont have to mount it each time... with the fstab, you will need to mount it when you want to write to it...
[02:16] <vlady> ?
[02:16] <alex_> alguien que hable espamol
[02:16] <alex_> soy nuevo en esto y ando bien perdido
[02:16] <frogzoo> masterloki u find someone to help you?
[02:16] <jamest> vlady , USB o PS2
[02:16] <blank> hey guys
[02:16] <vlady> seerial
[02:16] <n0odl3> uh am i in the spanish ubuntu channel?
[02:16] <Hytak> Hi... I got a laptop, and Ubuntu work great on it, it's fun... except, of course, the modem... a Agere Systems AC'97 Modem... a softmodem... I used scanModem to find info on it but I'm not sure, someone know about hsf modems on Ubuntu? (Or liux in geneal)
[02:16] <blank> I was just wondering, I know they're both the same distro, but what should I choose, ubuntu or kubuntu
[02:17] <erisco> i am having a lot of problem with the keyboard not working with java or flash. is this a known problem with a solution? sometimes my keyboard works, other times it wont...
[02:17] <pie> penguinbrat: the cp /dev did not work
[02:17] <blank> I mean, if I choose ubuntu, and install KDE, would it be worse than just installing kubuntu/
[02:17] <jamest> vlady , compa un mouse nuovo
[02:17] <masterloki> frogzoo, well i found help but i can't solve my problem yet
[02:17] <vlady> ok
[02:17] <vlady> gracias
[02:17] <n0odl3> blank: Ubuntu
[02:17] <mc|amb> choicy: did you get the file?
[02:17] <jamest> vlady , no se...
[02:17] <blank> or vice versa, if I install gnome on kubuntu
[02:17] <n0odl3> blank: kubuntu is really buggy at the moment
[02:17] <jamest> vlady , perdon
[02:17] <vlady> vale
[02:17] <infested_maggot> can anyone help me with this error pls: "trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/fireglcontrolpanel', which is also in package fglrx-control"
[02:17] <pie> penguinbrat: isn't it a better way to set the permissions free
[02:17] <masterloki> Jamest,  I added a drive but Linux didn't boot and now I leave everithing the way it was
[02:17] <blank> ah, thanks for the help, so my best bet would be installing ubuntu and then kde, thanks
[02:17] <penguinbrat> pie: cp /dev? dont try to do that - you will get a result that you will not expect...
[02:18] <jamest> masterloki , ?
[02:18] <blank> thanks guys
[02:18] <n0odl3> blank: use ubuntu with the default gnome
[02:18] <blank> no kde?
[02:18] <jamest> blank , sure you can have KDE
[02:18] <masterloki> jamest, you asked to be more specific
[02:18] <cef> ok this is disturbing. I'm getting my /var partition remounting itself read only!
[02:18] <n0odl3> blank: using KDE with ubuntu may cause GPG key broblems
[02:18] <blank> ah okay
[02:18] <ubuntu> just testing
[02:18] <holycow> you can installkde separately
[02:18] <jamest> masterloki , i need even more specific :)
[02:18] <Hytak> In kernel 2.6, is there modversions.h or not? I heard it was replaced by modsetver.h ....?
[02:18] <n0odl3> some of my packages broke when i tried switching to kde
[02:18] <ubuntu> first time linux user
[02:18] <holycow> welcome ubuntu
[02:19] <pie> penguinbrat: the cp /mnt/storage thing..
[02:19] <ubuntu> ubuntu is cooler than xp
[02:19] <holycow> ubuntu, do /nick somenewnickrepresenting you
[02:19] <penguinbrat> pie: just 'sudo mkdir /mnt/storage/something', 'sudo chown [username] :[username]  /mnt/storage/something'
[02:19] <n0odl3> ubuntu: i agree
[02:19] <masterloki> jamest, now after grub load and ubuntu begins to load stuff it asks for /dev/hdd2
[02:19] <ubuntu> i think ill trow
[02:19] <propagandhi> ubuntu: cool and XP dont mix
[02:19] <alex_> pinguinbrat: down load allready
[02:19] <alex_> aand ten
[02:19] <penguinbrat> pie: what are you trying to copy?
[02:19] <Booboo> teste
[02:19] <Booboo> cool
[02:19] <masterloki> jamest, but now i edited fstab but still I cant get it
[02:19] <infested_maggot> can anyone help me with this error pls: "trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/fireglcontrolpanel', which is also in package fglrx-control"
[02:19] <jamest> masterloki , well where is / booted
[02:20] <n0odl3> ubuntuL: since your a new to linux go to www.tuxmagazine.com and subcribe... Its a free webzine for new linux users!
[02:20] <masterloki> /dev/hdd2
[02:20] <Booboo> fuck xp hurrah for this stuff
[02:20] <masterloki> jamest /dev/hdb2
[02:20] <cef> ok this is disturbing. I'm getting my /var partition remounting itself read only! 2 x 120 gig drives in raid1 (software), drives split into 2 partitions, 1st partition is /, second partition is LVM, which contains /var and swap
[02:20] <Booboo> c ya
[02:20] <jamest> masterloki , hmm can you PM me your /etc/fstab?
[02:20] <holycow> welcome peeps, make yer self comfy on planet linux :)
[02:20] <jamest>  /msg jamest
[02:20] <masterloki> jamest, ok
[02:20] <holycow> contribute to help files, bug testing, maybe even code up some stuff if you can :)
[02:21] <n0odl3> w007 im glad i made the switch to linux at a fairly young age of 17
[02:21] <n0odl3> (i am 17 currently)
[02:21] <cevizoglu> holycow, I didn't know linux was so dang comfy!
[02:21] <Skaarg> linux is cumfy atleast for this comp
[02:21] <jamest> masterloki , sorry flood
[02:21] <Skaarg> just wish it would boot on my other
[02:21] <holycow> n0odl3, linux experience will become very valuable in the future, particularly as drm and others try to close in on our rights and freedoms
[02:22] <darkarchon> holycow, indeed
[02:22] <masterloki> jamest, ?
[02:22] <penguinbrat> infested_maggot: i havent had that problem (nvidia here), but I would try uninstalling both packages and reinstalling in a different order...
[02:22] <holycow> cevizoglu, :) indeed, requires elbow grease and my thanks to mark and the ubuntu people for it
[02:22] <masterloki> jamest, pastebin?
[02:22] <n0odl3> holycow: what is drm?
[02:22] <holycow> digital rights management
[02:22] <darkarchon> data rights management
[02:22] <darkarchon> urx
[02:22] <holycow> such as you find with windows media player 10
[02:22] <n0odl3> holycow: yes i agree
[02:22] <jamest> try again please masterloki
[02:22] <penguinbrat> masterloki: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[02:22] <cevizoglu> holycow, I haven't used any elbox grease on ubuntu, that's why I like it so much  :)
[02:23] <jamest> penguinbrat , are you devo?
[02:23] <darkarchon> hmm
[02:23] <darkarchon> after i installed ubuntu today at my girlfriends comp
[02:23] <dooglus> I'm going to buy a new PC.  Is it better to get an ATI or Nvidia graphics card for x.org compatibility?
[02:23] <holycow> by switching to linux, you probably are doing it for your own reasons, BUT, what you are really doing long terms is staking your self a bit of freedom and independence
[02:23] <darkarchon> nvidia dooglus
[02:23] <darkarchon> nvidia in anyway.
[02:23] <jamest> ?
[02:23] <penguinbrat> jamest: devo = development I take it? nope - just been around Linux for a very long time...
[02:23] <jamest> ahh
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> I seem to have killed something with the Gnome Application Installer (gnome-app-install) in Breezy.  Is there anyone who thinks they may be able to help?  (I can post the error messages from the terminal in flood if someone thiinks they have a chance.)
[02:24] <dooglus> darkarchon: sorry, I don't know what you mean.
[02:24] <jamest> i'm from the freebsd realm
[02:24] <darkarchon> after i installed ubuntu today at my girlfriends comp, i have to say its kinda klickibunti
[02:24] <holycow> cevizoglu, heh, ubuntu proved to me debian is an amazing distro, however it did require lots of extra effort debian doesn't have available for natural reasons
[02:24] <n0odl3> holycow: I love how linux is so versitle... Now the only things i have left on my to do list is learn how to compile program and set up my Mouse Pen tablet
[02:24] <darkarchon> dooglus, nvidia is better for xorg.
[02:24] <holycow> oh also the gnome people too, i love gnome
[02:24] <dooglus> darkarchon: is ATI supported too?
[02:24] <[nige] > anyone know anything about fibre optic networking?
[02:24] <darkarchon> eh it is...
[02:24] <n0odl3> holycow: Being able to download source and compile it yourself is very self assuring
[02:24] <darkarchon> but the drivers suck
[02:24] <holycow> n0odl3, yeah, lots and lots to learn *nod*
[02:24] <jamest> dooglus , depends
[02:24] <holycow> i agree n0odl3
[02:24] <dooglus> darkarchon: ok.
[02:24] <pie> penguinbrat: funny.., afther all the work, still no acces, just 'reading', but no writing..
[02:25] <dooglus> jamest: upon?
[02:25] <jamest> which card :)
[02:25] <jamest> they require drivers...
[02:26] <dooglus> jamest: I was looking at the ATI 700X or some such
[02:26] <jamest> dooglus ...but you can always find a dri-trunk if you need
[02:26] <penguinbrat> pie: errr... alright, edit you /etc/fstab file again and change that last line where it says 'defaults', to 'defaults,users,rw,noauto'
[02:26] <tonyyarusso> [nige] : I know the science behind it, but I don't have any experience using it.  What kind of information do you need?
[02:26] <jamest> dooglus , i'm sure
[02:26] <darkarchon> dooglus, dont take the X700
[02:26] <darkarchon> the card is crap
[02:26] <dooglus> darkarchon: go on?
[02:26] <dooglus> oh, right
[02:26] <penguinbrat> pie: then 'sudo umount /mnt/storage', then as the normal user, ie no sudo - just enter 'mount /mnt/storage'
[02:26] <darkarchon> ever thought about getting an 6600gt? or 6800?
[02:26] <Eddie> Ive just mangled my ubuntu
[02:26] <Eddie> i tried to install amarok
[02:26] <Eddie> and dpkg started removing ubuntu-desktop
[02:26] <Eddie> totem
[02:26] <Eddie> and rhythmbox
[02:27] <Eddie> i try to reinstall them and i get a load of stuff about dependencies
[02:27] <jamest> Eddie , thats not mangled at all :)
[02:27] <Eddie> each leading to another
[02:27] <mc|amb> why can my winpc successfuly ping my linuxpc and not the other way around????
[02:27] <Eddie> jamest: ok, ive sprained my ubuntu
[02:27] <dooglus> darkarchon: I don't know anything about hardware
[02:27] <jamest> Eddie , now thats better :)
[02:27] <jamest> i would update
[02:27] <Eddie> but ive a feeling ubuntu-desktop is important
[02:27] <dooglus> darkarchon: but I'd be buying a laptop
[02:27] <Eddie> ok
[02:27] <darkarchon> dooglus, urgs.
[02:27] <Eddie> this all spawns from one little thing
[02:27] <jamest> Eddie , is this on a personal machine?
[02:27] <Eddie> i just want to be able to listen to the podcasts on abovetopsecret.com
[02:27] <Eddie> yeah
[02:28] <jamest> ok cool
[02:28] <Eddie> my only PC, since I sold the laptop to buy a hifi last week
[02:28] <titanium> !ping
[02:28] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, titanium.
[02:28] <mc|amb> why can my winpc successfuly ping my linuxpc and not the other way around????
[02:28] <eedge> wow, ubuntu is sooo damn cool :)
[02:28] <eedge> lol
[02:28] <cef> mc|amb: windows firewall blocking the pings? it does that by default
[02:28] <jamest> eedge , ???
[02:28] <penguinbrat> mc|amb: there is no reason unless there is a weird conflict somewhere - you sure you have the addresses right?
[02:28] <darkarchon> eedge, debian is kinda better.in my opinion
[02:28] <jamest> !current kernel
[02:28] <ubotu> jamest: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:28] <jamest> no you idiot
[02:28] <jamest> !kernel
[02:28] <tonyyarusso> Eddie: Yeah, it is a bit.  I've done the same thing; now I've learned to check the list of pkgs to be removed.
[02:28] <penguinbrat> mc|amb: conflict meaning in your network hardware...
[02:28] <jamest> thats sick
[02:28] <Eddie> ok dist-upgrade isnt doing what i need to
[02:29] <penguinbrat> mc|amb: or that to =P
[02:29] <eedge> I'm just happy I've deleted my windows partition :)
[02:29] <eedge> he
[02:29] <eedge> h
[02:29] <Eddie> tonyyarusso: is there some kind of apt-get -reinstall-all-the-crap-i-killed command
[02:29] <jamest> Eddie , are you versed with sources.list
[02:29] <darkarchon> eedge I'm just happy I've deleted my windows partition :) < urx
[02:29] <darkarchon> if ure a gamer, u will reinstall windows.
[02:29] <Eddie> jamest: enough to know its a list of debian repositories
[02:29] <Eddie> darkarchon: im not a gamer
[02:29] <jamest> Eddie , ok switch the breezy to dapper
[02:29] <mc|amb> cef, penguinbrat: thanks,is there a way to disable the windows firewall??
[02:29] <Eddie> dapper is testing?
[02:30] <pizux> do u know how configure proftpd with a domainname instead of ip because mine is dynamaic
[02:30] <darkarchon> Eddie, i didnt meant you
[02:30] <Eddie> I just wanna get my desktop back
[02:30] <jamest> Eddie , come on...this is not testing
[02:30] <dooglus> Eddie: dapper is development
[02:30] <cef> mc|amb: yes. you problably don't want to disable it, just turn on ICMP ping responses
[02:30] <Eddie> I dont even really care about totem because its crap
[02:30] <Eddie> as is rhythm box
[02:30] <mc|amb> cef: how do i do that?
[02:30] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about EVMS? or what device dm-7 might be?
[02:30] <jamest> Eddie , thats fine...but you either need to remove all the repositories...or update the whole list
[02:30] <Eddie> isnt there a command where i can tell apt to do whatever it needs to in order to ensure ubuntu-desktop is installed?
[02:30] <cevizoglu> Eddie, neither do I, xine handles most of my video needs
[02:30] <penguinbrat> mc|amb: you need to get to the network settings for that interface somehow - but then there will be options for disabling the firewall...
[02:30] <dooglus> pizux: try myip.com or dyndns.com
[02:31] <cevizoglu> Eddie, and amarok for music needs
[02:31] <tonyyarusso> Eddie: Not that I'm aware of, although that doesn't mean there isn't.  You could try apt-get -f install, which will attempt to correct the dependencies errors.  This will either fix it by succeeding in replacing what you need, or in my experience, if that fails, it will correct the problem by asking to delete everything else.
[02:31] <jamest> Eddie, just reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[02:31] <jamest> then
[02:31] <pizux> iv already done it
[02:31] <pizux> dooglus
[02:31] <Eddie> cevizoglu: I tried to install amarok, thats why ubuntu-desktop was removed, for some reason
[02:31] <dooglus> pizux: so what's the problem
[02:31] <thewayofzen> who is it i have to bother to request a package be added to backports?
[02:31] <eedge> I don't game much, so its really not a prob.
[02:31] <cef> mc|amb: go into Security Centre in XP, go into the firewalll section, and look at advanced. you should be able to modify something to do with ICMP or ping stuff there... I don't have XP here so I can't help mroe than that. btw: it's really an XP question, you need to ask people who deal in XP, not ubuntu
[02:31] <eedge> :P
[02:31] <pizux> euh is proftpd find my domain name instead of my ip?
[02:31] <jamest> thewayofzen , i could help
[02:32] <nickrud> I vote for epiphany 1.9.1
[02:32] <jamest> thewayofzen , why don't you do it :)
[02:32] <cevizoglu> thewayofzen, isn't there a sourceforge page for backports with a list of maintainers?
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> Eddie: You could also just try apt-get -f install ubuntu-desktop, which might be able to do something.
[02:32] <jamest> nickrud , use firefox
[02:32] <thewayofzen> Jamest and i would do it how?!?
[02:32] <Eddie> http://pastebin.ca/27563 theres my apt output
[02:32] <jamest> Eddie , i woudl force the apt-get install as well as reinstall
[02:32] <pie> penguinbrat: iff you think, that youre getting crazy.., sorry it's me first!
[02:32] <Eddie> ok
[02:32] <jamest> thewayofzen , search about how to make debian pkds
[02:32] <nickrud> jamest, I like epiphany, have for years
[02:32] <mc|amb> cef: thanks, i'm running ubuntu. only trying to access my other comp ;)
[02:32] <jamest> thewayofzen , why not build from source
[02:32] <darkarchon> eedge, i have to say, i only left 17gigs for windows. of 200gigs.
[02:32] <jamest> nickrud , its like 2 years old... perhaps 1
[02:33] <Eddie> getting the same even with -f
[02:33] <darkarchon> about 140 for the root filesystem under gentoo :
[02:33] <jamest> but its your opinion
[02:33] <nickrud> jamest, ok, I started with galeon
[02:33] <jamest> Eddie , you need to rebuild your repositories
[02:33] <cef> mc|amb: yeah I guessed *grin*
[02:33] <nickrud> jamest, true.
[02:33] <jamest> nickrud , ahh those were the days
[02:33] <thewayofzen> jamest, ive been trying all evening to get the latest blackbox build working on my machine.. and im without success. ive googled my but off and begged for help.. clearly its outside my skills.. i was hoping it would be added to backports as it fixes alot of what i think are signifigant bugs in the wm
[02:33] <tonyyarusso> Eddie: These are suggestions of stuff that might work; when I had this problem I had messed it up worse, and I was just getting started, so I ended up just redoing the entire installation, although that's probably not as practical now in your situation.
[02:33] <penguinbrat> pie: lol - no prob, it was just getting frustrating trying to figure out what was going on - but thats the norm with simple chat  - no worries ;-)
[02:33] <penguinbrat> pie: is everything working?
[02:33] <Eddie> jamest: apt-get update?
[02:33] <jamest> thewayofzen , apparently not
[02:33] <thewayofzen> jamest, ive tried to compile it from source.. tried cvs.. tried building a deb with checkinstall and no success
[02:33] <jamest> Eddie , yes but thats just updating old ones...when you get the old shit...i would dapper it
[02:33] <nickrud> jamest, supposedly the few remaining galeon guys are going to fold some stuff into extensions for epiphany, so maybe ...
[02:34] <jamest> dapper is not a big deal
[02:34] <Eddie> jamest: so long as it doesnt break
[02:34] <Eddie> and works
[02:34] <jamest> nickrud , :)
[02:34] <Eddie> im fine with it
[02:34] <jamest> Eddie , i'm using it
[02:34] <Eddie> but Im not a debugger
[02:34] <Eddie> ok
[02:34] <jamest> you don't need to be
[02:34] <Eddie> you wanna hit me with some dapper sources
[02:34] <jamest> Eddie , plus you can always downgrade after you upgrade right
[02:34] <pie> penguinbrat: gess...
[02:34] <Eddie> so i can paste them into sources.list
[02:34] <jamest> Eddie , change the breezy to dapper
[02:34] <jamest> thats all lol
[02:34] <penguinbrat> pie: lol - whats it saying?
[02:34] <Eddie> ok
[02:34] <Eddie> brilliant
[02:34] <jamest> Eddie and do a clean
[02:35] <jamest> i like this community
[02:35] <jamest> :)
[02:35] <jamest> i remember when i was learning FBSD before devo ... they aren't the nicest
[02:35] <jamest> but now i get to say RTFM!!
[02:35] <cevizoglu> !rtfm
[02:35] <ubotu> it has been said that rtfm is Read The "Fine" Manual
[02:35] <penguinbrat> lol
[02:35] <jamest> !RTFMFP
[02:35] <ubotu> Not a clue, jamest
[02:35] <cevizoglu> and fine it is
[02:35] <jamest> damnit
[02:35] <bradd> hey guys.. I  just installed ubuntu on a ibm thinkpad laptop.. the specs for the laptop say the cpu is a p3 1133Mhz, but cat /proc/cpuinfo sez 'Mhz : 732.765'.. any ideas?
[02:36] <jamest> that means...read the fucking manual fucking please :-D
[02:36] <cevizoglu> friendly too
[02:36] <jamest> bradd , YES!
[02:36] <crimsun> bradd: it's a speedstep chipset
[02:36] <jamest> bradd , lol...yep...
[02:36] <jamest> bradd , but it will go up with usage
[02:36] <jamest> there are new funky scripts that allow for that
[02:36] <Eddie> ok
[02:36] <jamest> it uses what it needs
[02:36] <pie> penguinbrat: Somehow it all just past bey...
[02:36] <Eddie> i did a dist-upgrade
[02:36] <Eddie> and all it did was update a few packages
[02:36] <jamest> Eddie , i'm proud of you
[02:36] <Eddie> like beep for instance rofl
[02:36] <bradd> ok, thats good to know.. I was worried for a second..
[02:37] <Eddie> still got the ubuntu-desktop problem, apt is refusing to install it without a fight
[02:37] <jamest> bradd , no worries... you could always overclock in the depricated /proc
[02:37] <tonyyarusso> Eddie: I looked at your pastebin, and was wondering if you've tried adding all of those dependencies to your apt install list?
[02:37] <Eddie> its worth a shot
[02:37] <Eddie> lets see here
[02:37] <jamest> Eddie , he makes a good point too
[02:37] <penguinbrat> bradd: their may be some automatic settings that the cpu does, and the windoze driver undoes them - like on the toshiba satellites the screen dims automaticallys and you have to run a command to change it back to full brightness....
[02:37] <jamest> i know ports better than apt
[02:37] <ecobuntu> !dvd
[02:37] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2 which you can obtain by installing 'libdvdread3' and then running 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[02:37] <DShepherd> I added a new user.  ubuntu doesnt detect my sound card
[02:37] <gleesond> I'm not shure what to use to extract and install the .deb file?
[02:38] <cevizoglu> !rtgfm
[02:38] <ubotu> RTGFM is read the God-forsaken manual!
[02:38] <Eddie> ok
[02:38] <penguinbrat> bradd: I would do a search on google about you laptop and linux...
[02:38] <jamest> bradd , but you can stop the scripts
[02:38] <Eddie> i just get more deps
[02:38] <DShepherd> does anyone know why that happends
[02:38] <Eddie> and conflicts too
[02:38] <DShepherd> happens?
[02:38] <jamest> Eddie , i would just run it until you notice any problems
[02:38] <jamest> to be honest
[02:38] <jamest> lol
[02:38] <cevizoglu> sorry, I'm feeling sick and not in my right mind ;)
[02:38] <bradd> ok, I'll google up on my hardware just to be in the know
[02:38] <Eddie> dont i need ubuntu-desktop though?
[02:38] <penguinbrat> pie: what happened?
[02:38] <jamest> Eddie , i'm a freebsd guy... so i don't know...i would man dpkg and man apt-get
[02:39] <jamest> Eddie , i know you can rebuild the whole repository with dpkg though
[02:39] <jamest> thats what you need to do
[02:39] <Eddie> id love to know how lol
[02:39] <aeon17x> !alsa
[02:39] <ubotu> from memory, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[02:39] <n0odl3> uhh does anyone know how to compile source coude?
[02:39] <dooglus> when building a kernel, how do I get it to make vesafb.ko available in the initrd?
[02:39] <Eddie> its like 2am here
[02:39] <DShepherd> I added a new user.  ubuntu doesnt detect my sound card. Does anyone know why that happens and how I can fix it?
[02:39] <Eddie> n0odl3: ./configure ; make ; make install
[02:39] <cef> DShepherd: you need to add them to the audio group so that they can access audio devices.. same goes for other device groups for similar problems. look at the first users groups, but remember, you don't want to give the user all those groups
[02:39] <nickrud> DShepherd, take a look at the groups for your first user, and then the new user. You need to add a few groups, I think
[02:39] <moparfan90> hello something is wrong with my ubuntu box.. when i boot it takes like 2 min longer then normal    i cant open firefox or delete files???
[02:39] <aeon17x> Holy crap... DShepherd, we have the same problem.
[02:39] <n0odl3> everytime i try to compile helloworld.cpp i get a really long list of errors
[02:39] <jamest> Eddie , ok i think i h ave it
[02:39] <penguinbrat> dooglus: if your compiling manually - dont make it a module =)
[02:39] <tonyyarusso> apt question: Is it possible to tell apt to ignore dependencies when removing a package, and only do the one you specified?  (For instance if you were planning to reinstall it later, but were working from the command line.)
[02:39] <DShepherd> aeon17x: really? kool, i;m not alone
[02:40] <jamest> Eddie , do a locate ubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <n0odl3> Eddie:what do you mean?
[02:40] <DShepherd> aeon17x: have you learned anything
[02:40] <pie> penguinbrat: I got dizzy.., just fell on the floor for a moment, but: I just got up! Raedy for a new round..?
[02:40] <n0odl3> Eddie: i tried using make helloworld.cpp
[02:40] <Eddie> jamest: nothing found
[02:40] <aeon17x> I haven't yet.
[02:40] <DShepherd> nickrud: what groups? and what if your adding then via command line?
[02:40] <aeon17x> =/
[02:40] <jamest> Eddie , hmm lets see
[02:40] <cef> DShepherd: look at my last response
[02:40] <jamest> because we need to find the pkgs
[02:40] <penguinbrat> pie: lol, yeah - for a little need to get something to eat my self =P
[02:40] <jamest> you can do a dpkg reinst-required
[02:41] <DShepherd> cef: oh ok
[02:41] <nickrud> DShepherd, type groups in a terminal; then adduser <new user> <group> for each group you want new user to belong to.
[02:41] <dooglus> penguinbrat: whether I make it a module or not it still doesn't seem to get into initrd
[02:41] <Eddie> I get a whole load of crap
[02:41] <Eddie> then E: broken packages
[02:41] <nickrud> DShepherd, sorry, first command is groups <first user>
[02:41] <jamest> damnit
[02:41] <dooglus> penguinbrat: and I'm not compiling manually, I'm using make-kpkg
[02:41] <dooglus> penguinbrat: do you know how the official ubuntu kernel .deb is made?
[02:41] <pie> penguinbrat: Is there a other way to acces to the 2e h-disk ?
[02:41] <Eddie> I really cant be bothered reinstalling
[02:41] <penguinbrat> dooglus: something else is wrong then - cuz if it's static, its in the kernel before the initrd is loaded...
[02:42] <crimsun> dooglus: using dpatches.
[02:42] <aeon17x> DShepherd: they're right, just go to System > Administration > Users and Groups, and add yourself to the audio group.
[02:42] <jamest> Eddie , perhaps completely remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:42] <jamest> and reinstall
[02:42] <Eddie> it is removed
[02:42] <aeon17x> DShepherd: I suppose adding yourself to other groups wouldn't hurt.
[02:42] <Eddie> thats the problem
[02:42] <pie> penguinbrat: Or shout I reboot..?
[02:42] <nickrud> DShepherd, you'll need to log out and back in for the new groups to be recognized
[02:42] <penguinbrat> pie: no - did you try to 'mount /mnt/storage' with out the sudo cmd?
[02:42] <Eddie> im running gnome right now but ive no idea if itd come up if i rebooted
[02:42] <DShepherd> thanks nickrud, cef will try your solution. Man. Ubuntu .....security is tough. Ok aeon17x
[02:42] <cge> n0odl3, can't you do g++ helloworld.cpp -o helloworld?
[02:42] <jamest> Eddie , ahh i see
[02:42] <Nihil85> hallo
[02:42] <Eddie> one way to find out
[02:42] <jamest> ubuntu-desktop is like...the whole shabang for x
[02:42] <pie> penguinbrat: yes yes
[02:43] <Eddie> control alt and backspace
[02:43] <jamest> Eddie , yes...i would uninstall all of it
[02:43] <jamest> BUT! DO NOT PURGE
[02:43] <aeon17x> Or... modify your user properties itself.
[02:43] <jamest> just uninstall and then reinstall
[02:43] <solidgroove> can you turn on animated progress bars and set the gnome bar transpearent?
[02:43] <aeon17x> Most likely, your setting got whacked.
[02:43] <Eddie> it was in the middle of removing ubuntu-desktop when i hit control and c
[02:43] <eedge> Anyone managed to get skype working through a proxy?
[02:43] <dooglus> crimsun: is there any documentation I can read about how the official kernel build is done?
[02:43] <Eddie> brb!
[02:43] <penguinbrat> pie: you should be able to write to it now - thats what the users option did, enabling you to mount it...
[02:43] <crimsun> dooglus: download the source for linux-image-$(uname -r) and look in the debian/patches dir
[02:43] <penguinbrat> pie: try 'echo asdlkfh > /mnt/storage/x'
[02:43] <crimsun> dooglus: for compilation, read debian/rules
[02:44] <aeon17x> And all I did was create accounts for my sisters... >_>
[02:44] <nickrud> aeon17x, welcome to sys admin :)
[02:44] <pie> penguinbrat: the echo give un-known
[02:45] <dooglus> crimsun: debian/rules seems to be a makefile.  is that the closest we have to docs?
[02:45] <Eddie> jamest: ok whatever it has deleted
[02:45] <pie> penguinbrat: the echo give un-known file or map
[02:45] <penguinbrat> pie: typo or something try 'touch /mnt/storage/x'
[02:45] <Eddie> jamest: its not causing me problems so far
[02:45] <Eddie> i restarted x
[02:45] <humbolt> how can I make the changes I make to my alps touchpad behavior via qsynaptics persistant?
[02:45] <Eddie> logged back in
[02:45] <Eddie> all is ok
[02:45] <Eddie> it deleted a few files before i could hit control and c
[02:45] <penguinbrat> pie: or map????
[02:45] <Eddie> i heard the hdd crunching
[02:45] <humbolt> maybe I can find the current settings somewhere somehow?!
[02:45] <Eddie> but i can use gnome
[02:45] <Eddie> so i think im ok
[02:45] <Eddie> ish
[02:45] <pie> penguinbrat: result acces refused!
[02:46] <benplaut> anyone know where conky's .conkyrc is held?
[02:46] <Eddie> So people, can someone please tell me a program i can easily apt-get that will allow me to play itunes podcasts
[02:46] <crimsun> dooglus: pretty much.
[02:46] <Eddie> I miss my fix of conspiracy theory
[02:46] <durt> humbolt: you mean after restarting X? you have to change the settings in xorg.conf
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> Another issue: I'm trying to install the package configure-thinkpad, which I downloaded as a .gz.  When I run through the ./configure process I get an error spit out in the terminal saying the C compiler (gcc) can not create executables.  What's up with that?
[02:46] <crimsun> dooglus: the principles are outlined in the make-kpkg documentation, though they differ
[02:46] <dooglus> crimsun: even if I read that makefile, it won't tell me what arguments are used in the official build
[02:46] <Nihil85> i red over the web that my VIA chipset under Linux give problems because of the AGP port. It's true because sometimes my OS freezes and only the pointer is active. What can i do if the VIA didn't release any upgrade for the bios?
[02:47] <crimsun> dooglus: "arguments"?
[02:47] <tonyyarusso> Eddie: Would VLC do that maybe?
[02:47] <durt> benplaut: ~/.conkyrc
[02:47] <eedge> Anyone here managed to get linux skype working through a proxy?
[02:47] <humbolt> durt: yes but how can I find out, to what qsynaptics changed the settings when I finally tweaked the system to my expectations?
[02:47] <benplaut> thanks
[02:47] <dooglus> crimsun: to compile the kernel, I guess some command is run.  and that command has command line arguments.
[02:47] <pie> penguinbrat: result cannot touch /mnt/storage/x : acces refused!
[02:47] <crimsun> dooglus: fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs
[02:47] <n0odl3> cge: i try to use g++ but it keeps giving me a long list of errors
[02:47] <dooglus> crimsun: like make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version, and so on
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> Does apt-get have a reinstall function from within the command line like Synaptic does?
[02:48] <darkarchon> pie, what about doing it as root?
[02:48] <jamest> Eddie , sorry i missed that
[02:48] <jamest> things wend ok
[02:48] <cef> tonyyarusso: 'apt-get install --reinstall package
[02:48] <humbolt> durt: I sure will not change the config then check what happens by x restart then change, then restart and check again?! I am not cracy!
[02:48] <crimsun> dooglus: it uses standard devscripts
[02:48] <benplaut> durt: is one created by default, or do i have to make a file with that name?
[02:48] <pie> penguinbrat: sorry, but how do I get to the root frm here?
[02:48] <benplaut> not finding it...
[02:48] <Eddie> tonyyarusso: you got me
[02:48] <Eddie> tonyyarusso: beep-media-player wont
[02:49] <jamest> Eddie , what does google say?
[02:49] <penguinbrat> pie: just put the sudo cmd before the other cmd you are trying...
[02:49] <aeon17x> That's ironic though... being an admin and getting locked out of your own system.
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> cef: Thanks.
[02:49] <humbolt> durt: is there a way to read the actual settings, so I can put them in the xorg.conf?
[02:49] <Eddie> could someone go to http://www.abovetopsecret.com and see if they can play the podcast on their ubuntu
[02:49] <cef> tonyyarusso: no probs
[02:49] <cge> n0odl3, could you post the errors in #flood?
[02:49] <durt> benplaut: untar and move this to .conkyrc: /usr/share/doc/conky/examples/conkyrc.sample.gz
[02:49] <jamest> everyone!!
[02:49] <benplaut> thanks
[02:49] <jamest> do an apt-get moo!
[02:49] <jamest> do an apt-get moo
[02:49] <jamest> rather
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> Eddie: What sort of format are those things anyway?
[02:49] <Nihil85> hello
[02:49] <nickrud> :)
[02:49] <Nihil85> i red over the web that my VIA chipset under Linux give problems because of the AGP port. It's true because sometimes my OS freezes and only the pointer is active. What can i do if the VIA didn't release any upgrade for the bios?
[02:49] <jamest> !apt-get moo
[02:49] <ubotu> jamest: Syntax error in line 1
[02:49] <eedge> Anyone here managed to get linux skype working through a proxy?
[02:49] <durt> humbolt: i dont know, i guess you oughta look it up and experiment
[02:50] <pie> penguinbrat: no errors so far..
[02:50] <jamest> !syntax your mom!
[02:50] <ubotu> Not a clue, jamest
[02:50] <Eddie> tonyyarusso: probably just standard streaming mp3, but ill be damned if i can fild the url of the file
[02:50] <Eddie> its all propriety itunes bollocks
[02:50] <pie> penguinbrat: shout  there be any result..?
[02:50] <durt> humbolt: what do you want the settings to be?
[02:50] <crimsun> Nihil85: disable agp acceleration
[02:50] <crimsun> Nihil85: there's documentation in the nvidia-glx package
[02:50] <penguinbrat> pie: with the touch or echo commands no - just an empty file now under /mnt/storage
[02:50] <penguinbrat> pie: ... called 'x'
[02:51] <Nihil85> crimsun, but in that way i will loose all my 3d acceleration... it's not good
[02:51] <aeon17x> crimsun: He's talking about a VIA card, I think.
[02:51] <bird> can anyone help me with photoshop? i need to get the fonts to work
[02:51] <n0odl3> can anyone tell me whats wrong with my coding?
[02:51] <aeon17x> bird: photoshop?
[02:51] <Nihil85> aeon17x, i have also a nvidia graphic card, but it isn't the problem, i red over the net
[02:51] <bird> aeon17x, ya i got it to run with wine
[02:51] <dooglus> crimsun: when I install the pre-built ubuntu breezy kernel, a directory /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/initrd/ gets created containing 2 .ko files.  when I build my own kernel using ubuntu kernel sources, it doesn't, and the system boots to a black screen.
[02:52] <tonyyarusso> Eddie: Do you have any way of accessing them currently?  I'm not really sure how that stuff works, but if we can figure out how to get at it you could try some stuff.  I'm just suggesting VLC because it seems to play everything I need, including an aacPlus stream from a radio station, which I thought might be what iTunes used.
[02:52] <humbolt> durt: what do I have this qsynaptics app for? I turn the switches there and it makes the touchpad behave! but when I am done, I want to know the settings. How can I get them out of the program
[02:52] <dooglus> crimsun: I'm trying to find out how to get those two .ko files build and installed with my kernel
[02:52] <bird> aeon17x but now it says that i dont have the right font to use the text tool
[02:52] <Eddie> ok ill give vlc a try
[02:52] <pie> penguinbrat: well..., ther is the x-file, but is it on the 2e harddisk? This suppose to be mounted overher wright?
[02:52] <n0odl3> cge: no one is here in this channel
[02:52] <Eddie> The following packages have unmet dependencies: vlc: Depends: libfribidi0 (
[02:52] <Eddie> etc etc
[02:52] <penguinbrat> bird: just copy all the fonts from the windoze partition(s) to where ever your c_drive is, prolly under your home dir somewhere...
[02:52] <Eddie> FFS
[02:52] <aeon17x> bird: Well, wine doesn't do everything windows does, so you can't expect it to get it right.
[02:52] <crimsun> dooglus: man mkinitramfs
[02:52] <Eddie> is not going to be installed?!
[02:52] <Eddie> why not just install it and quit whining
[02:52] <aeon17x> !windowsfonts
[02:52] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, aeon17x
[02:53] <aeon17x> !fonts
[02:53] <ubotu> I heard fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[02:53] <tonyyarusso> Ick.  Even after reinstallation something is still broken with gnome-app-install.  Thoughts??
[02:53] <n0odl3> cge: im in #flooding right now
[02:53] <GTroy> is easy ubuntu a REALLY, REALLY bad idea?
[02:53] <cge> n0odl3, Oh, I am in #flood
[02:53] <bird> penguinbrat my _drive?
[02:53] <bird> penguinbrat my c_drive?
[02:53] <crimsun> aeon17x: he's not, he's referring to his motherboard. I owned a VIA KT133A at one point and have experienced it myself.
[02:53] <dooglus> crimsun: when should I run mkinitramfs?  or should debian/rules run that for me?
[02:53] <bird> oh with wine?
[02:53] <bird> okey
[02:54] <penguinbrat> pie: if you run the df command, it should say that /dev/[device]  is mounted under /mnt/storage with such in such percentage full, availiable, etc... you could also simply 'umount /mnt/storage' and see if it still there...
[02:54] <crimsun> dooglus: after you've compiled and installed (but not booted into) the new kernel
[02:54] <tonyyarusso> Eddie: Check the VLC site (1st result if you google it) and add their repository to your apt list, and then I think all of the dependencies will be covered.
[02:54] <Eddie> ok
[02:54] <crimsun> Nihil85: then just use 1x accel
[02:54] <nickrud> GTroy, some people call it an automated ubuntuguide.org
[02:54] <durt> humbolt: i dont know the answer to that; the best way to set up your touchpad is to read stuff like README.alps
[02:54] <nadien> server ircchat.terra.cl 7000
[02:55] <penguinbrat> bird: the 'c_drive' is where wine pretends c: is at... check under ~/.wine, it should be a directory atleast...
[02:55] <humbolt> durt: synclient -l
[02:55] <n0odl3> cge: im in flood right now to
[02:55] <Nihil85> crimsun, what's a lx accel?
[02:55] <tonyyarusso> !botinstructions
[02:55] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, tonyyarusso
[02:55] <Eddie> tonyyarusso: still getting the errors
[02:55] <cge> n0odl3, Hmmm... I have no idea.
[02:55] <humbolt> durt: no, README.alps is outdated! You do not need to patch the kernel anymore. That is already done by ubuntu team as it seems.
[02:56] <radix> is anyone familiar with the way ubuntu packages zope/
[02:56] <radix> err, zope/plone
[02:56] <n0odl3> cge: there is nothing wrong with  my code?
[02:56] <tonyyarusso> Eddie: Try throwing in the Debian unstable main archive too.
[02:56] <n0odl3> cge: is there a certain i have to do to compile with g++?
[02:56] <n0odl3> cge: the code i pasted is c++
[02:56] <durt> humbolt, no i meant look at the example configuration
[02:57] <cansa> could i get a hand doing this please http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html
[02:57] <tonyyarusso> Are there other C compilers I could try if gcc is having trouble creating executables?
[02:57] <Eddie> tonyyarusso: you sure thats wise?
[02:57] <cge> n0odl3, No, I believe g++ should compile it. I haven't used c++ very much though - so it is probably an error with the code, or with the installation of g++.
[02:57] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso:  install build-essential
[02:57] <Eddie> i could end up with a bastard halfbreed vanilla debian / ubuntu install
[02:57] <chuck87> hi!
[02:57] <tonyyarusso> Eddie: For specific things it's usually okay, just comment it out again before doing an apt-get upgrade or anything like that.
[02:57] <chuck87> i have a problem with skype
[02:58] <chuck87> it appears when i wanna talk : /dev/dsp-1: Device or resource busy
[02:58] <chuck87> somebody know what is?
[02:58] <eedge> Anyone here managed to get linux skype working through a proxy?
[02:58] <penguinbrat> chuck87: use alsa, it looks as though you may be using oss instead...
[02:58] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: And what exactly will that package do?
[02:58] <bur[n] er> through a proxy?  why for?
[02:58] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso:  apt-cache show build-essential  to see :)
[02:58] <eedge> because all my internet is going through an internet proxy.
[02:58] <cge> n0odl3, You have end1 instead of endl
[02:58] <jamest> eedge , thats kind of hard
[02:59] <chuck87> penguinbrat: how can i install alsa?
[02:59] <bur[n] er> eedge: why?
[02:59] <chuck87> o how i can enable?
[02:59] <Eddie> E: Type 'unstable' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:59] <jamest> chuck87 , apt-get install alsa
[02:59] <pie> penguinbrat: If I use the df command ans=d check if /dev/hdd or hdc I'll get the same amount of percentage, this can not be! both give 56%..
[02:59] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: the error you are seeing is generally cured by that package
[02:59] <chuck87> oks let me see
[02:59] <Eddie> one hurdle after another lol
[02:59] <eedge> er... because my wireless card isn't support by linux? thats one reason.
[02:59] <cge> n0odl3, But with that changed it compiles on my computer.
[02:59] <eedge> so I just hooked it up to my win2k webserver.
[02:59] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about EVMS? or what device dm-7 might be?
[02:59] <darkarchon> eedge, urx. wlan and linux is... :/ fail
[02:59] <eedge> which has a proxy server running on it.
[02:59] <dabaR> Eddie: well, if you are in ubuntu, there is no unstable. paste your /etc/apt/sources.list ono paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:00] <nickrud> Eddie, maybe you should do, as dabaR said :)
[03:00] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: Looks worth a shot, I'll go try the other install again then.
[03:00] <chuck87> jamest: i have it already install
[03:00] <darkarchon> 2.6.14 kernel has new stuff for wlan implented
[03:00] <cansa> thoreauputic, , can i use ur brain if u get a min
[03:00] <eedge> hasn't causes any other problems.
[03:00] <darkarchon> more drivers
[03:00] <darkarchon> :S
[03:00] <eedge> but skype.
[03:00] <dabaR> cansa: he cant even use it himself.:))
[03:00] <cansa> wlol
[03:00] <chuck87> jamest: i have it already install
[03:00] <n0odl3> cge:what do i need for g++
[03:00] <thoreauputic> cansa: just ask in channel - if someone can help they will
[03:00] <penguinbrat> chuck87: search for alsa in the synaptic pac man, install alsa-base, alsa-oss, alsa-utils
[03:00] <cge> n0odl3, Do you have libstdc++ installed?
[03:00] <n0odl3> cge: how do i get g++
[03:00] <cansa> are u offering to take his place dabaR ?
[03:00] <chuck87> oks
[03:01] <chuck87> penguinbrat: oks!
[03:01] <thoreauputic> dabaR: hey watch it! *g*
[03:01] <dabaR> cansa: ask already:)] 
[03:01] <n0odl3> cge: whats that?
[03:01] <cansa> having trouble with http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html
[03:01] <durt> is there a config file to change the font colors in geany?
[03:01] <eedge> is it possible to skype through a proxy?
[03:01] <Eddie> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4054
[03:01] <pie> penguinbrat: it doen't any mather witch device I type, they all give 56%.., MAMMA!
[03:01] <dabaR> n0odl3: what do you need g++ for?
[03:01] <cge> n0odl3, the includes are in something like libstdc++6-4.0-dev (or maybe 5).
[03:02] <Eddie> ah!
[03:02] <Eddie> those comments perhaps
[03:02] <nickrud> oh, my my
[03:02] <dabaR> Eddie: who made that?
[03:02] <Eddie> dabaR: everyones been fiddling with it
[03:02] <penguinbrat> pie: dont give it any arguments, just df by itself...
[03:02] <chuck87> penguinbrat: i install it both
[03:02] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: That fixed the first problem, but now I'm getting another.  I'll put it in flood; let me know if you can help with that too.
[03:02] <dabaR> or something less violent
[03:02] <n0odl3> cge: how do i get that?
[03:02] <n0odl3> dabaR: I want to learn how to prgram c++ therefore i need a compiler
[03:02] <n0odl3> cge: how do i get libstdc++?
[03:02] <chuck87> penguinbrat: let me prove
[03:02] <crimsun> Nihil85: that's 1x (as in one 'x', not el x)
[03:02] <cge> n0odl3, sudo apt-get install libstdc++6-dev
[03:03] <dabaR> n0odl3: sudo aptitude install build-essential installs a c++ compiler
[03:03] <Eddie> fixed it now
[03:03] <jamest> Eddie, attaboy :-p
[03:03] <Eddie> but im still no closer to hearing my podcast
[03:03] <dabaR> cge: what are you talking about at all, whts that for anyhow? not a c++ compiler...
[03:03] <jamest> yes but this near ubuntu death experience will teach you
[03:03] <jamest> won't it
[03:03] <durt> n0odl3: g++ is the c++ compiler
[03:03] <Nei> I could log out and in all the time just to look at Entrance xD
[03:03] <pie> penguinbrat: with this argument it gives: df /dev /hd*  two devices
[03:03] <penguinbrat> chuck87, no need to - did you have the alsa-oss installed?
[03:03] <cge> dabaR, Oh - I thought that was needed for g++ to work.
[03:04] <Eddie> jamest: ive been here before, up to 3am reinstalling debian slink because X died on me
[03:04] <Eddie> jamest: except these days, im not a computer hobbyist anymore, i dont care enough to fix it
[03:04] <eedge> is it possible to skype through a proxy?
[03:04] <dabaR> cge: no, the build-essential package installs everything(perhaps even that)
[03:04] <tonyyarusso> Eddie: I wasn't really following that; what ended up working?
[03:04] <chuck87> penguinbrat: yes i already install it
[03:04] <Eddie> jamest: i just want it to work for my emails, music and general crap
[03:04] <Eddie> tonyyarusso: nothing really, the unstable sources worked, but installing vlc still didnt, square one with a thud
[03:04] <cge> dabaR, n0odl3 : Ah yes - build-essential should install it.
[03:04] <cansa> i hate my usb modem..... some one fix it
[03:05] <dooglus> crimsun: the kernel .deb package contains the ./lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/initrd/vesafb.ko
[03:05] <cge> n0odl3 : Sorry, my information is really out of date.
[03:05] <Eddie> ive a spare ethernet modem
[03:05] <n0odl3> cge: there are several libstdc++6-dev
[03:05] <cansa> dcc it to me Eddie
[03:05] <dooglus> file - surely the mkinitramfs program won't change the .deb file will it?
[03:05] <pie> penguinbrat: df? it gives a new harddisk..
[03:05] <Eddie> im considering using it as an oversized tee for indoor golf
[03:05] <cge> n0odl3, ignore what I said about libstdc++
[03:05] <cge> n0odl3, just install build-essential.
[03:05] <penguinbrat> chuck87: well basically what is going on is that another program (prolly the window manager) is already using the /dev/dsp which I think is oss, alsa handles multiple apps using the sounds card while oss doesnt... Thats where I was heading whith all of that... is there a way to see if skype is using oss or alsa, and if so change it?
[03:05] <cansa> i cant get my usb modem to work in ubuntu
[03:05] <crimsun> dooglus: you need to generate your own, because you're not using the default kernel
[03:06] <cansa> im using ics on my laptop atm.....
[03:06] <n0odl3> cge: i did get build essential
[03:06] <penguinbrat> pie: what do you mean it gives a new harddisk?
[03:06] <dooglus> crimsun: I want to know how the official kernel is built, so that I can build one of my own just like it.  is that possible?
[03:06] <dabaR> n0odl3: gcc blah.cpp
[03:06] <n0odl3> cge: this is what happened (look in flood
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> Eddie:  Shoot.  That's odd, because I installed the same thing fairly recently.
[03:06] <crimsun> dooglus: I just told you..
[03:06] <pie> penguinbrat: So it shout works, it's there But how to acces..
[03:06] <slew> what is the package i need to compile programs? devtools or something?
[03:06] <crimsun> dooglus: debian/rules is invoked to create debs
[03:06] <dooglus> crimsun: I want my kernel .deb file to include ./lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/initrd/vesafb.ko , just like the official one does.
[03:06] <pie> penguinbrat: So it shout works, it's there But how to acces..The new Harddisk has a differend number
[03:07] <n0odl3> cge: i figured it out
[03:07] <crimsun> dooglus: then generate an initramfs
[03:07] <penguinbrat> pie: use the sudo command for now to access it...
[03:07] <chuck87> penguinbrat: no, theres no option to change it, but on my sound setting i have "Autodetect", do i need to change it?
[03:07] <jamest> dooglus , dude just build it yourself
[03:07] <n0odl3> cge: i put .h after <iostream>
[03:07] <jamest> or use kernel package
[03:07] <crimsun> slew: build-essential
[03:07] <pie> penguinbrat: yehh..?
[03:08] <slew> crimsun, thanks
[03:08] <dooglus> jamest: I've used kernel-package, but it doesn't include the vesafb.ko file in the .deb it makes
[03:08] <penguinbrat> chuck87: if you can change it, and it can handle alsa natively yeah... you may just try changing autodetect to alsa and see if it works =)
[03:08] <dabaR> n0odl3: /j #c++
[03:08] <pie> penguinbrat: how do i give the user acces to it?
[03:08] <crimsun> dooglus: that's because you didn't invoke it to generate an initramfs
[03:08] <crimsun> dooglus: so you have to do it afterward
[03:08] <dooglus> crimsun: how do I invoke it to generate an initramfs?
[03:08] <penguinbrat> pie: lol - thats what I was trying to do earlier with making the directory and chaning the permisions on it...
[03:09] <Earthen> I want to delete all files and folders with the word wedmin in ti from command line anyonw know how to do that
[03:09] <chuck87> penguinbrat: it has a option that says: " Full duplex" on sound settings do i need to enable?
[03:09] <crimsun> dooglus: read the man page for make-kpkg, like I said 15 minutes ago
[03:09] <dooglus> crimsun: I have done
[03:09] <pie> penguinbrat: Tell me again pelaaaaaaase!!!!!
[03:09] <dooglus> there's no mention of initramfs in the man page
[03:10] <penguinbrat> chuck87: I'm pretty sure alsa is full duplex whether or not the card is (could be wrong), I would go ahead and set it to see what happens...
[03:10] <jamest> penguinbrat , you got your handsful...they should promote you to devo
[03:10] <jamest> this is like me in fbsd or gentoo
[03:10] <jamest> or macos x
[03:10] <jamest> lol
[03:10] <chuck87> penguinbrat: thanx! :D
[03:10] <slew> ubuntu comes with gtk, right?
[03:11] <jamest> slew, if you have gnome
[03:11] <jamest> but yes
[03:11] <crimsun> dooglus: initrd is mentioned, correct?
[03:11] <Nei> what's the proper way to set my system language, for example the language gnome uses?
[03:11] <slew> yah have gnome, but i have this: checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 1.3.13 gnet-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[03:11] <penguinbrat> pie: 'sudo mkdir /mnt/storage/drv2' 'sudo chown [username:username]  /mnt/storage/drv2'
[03:11] <crimsun> penguinbrat: the card determines whether full duplex is supported.
[03:11] <dabaR> n0odl3: ask there, they said newbie questions are fine.,
[03:12] <dooglus> crimsun: yes.  I used the --initrd option.  it didn't include the initrd/vesafb.ko file in the .deb it made.
[03:12] <jamest> pie , add a recursive param to that
[03:12] <crimsun> dooglus: because initrd != initramfs
[03:12] <dabaR> n0odl3: you wouldnt ask how to install something on ubuntu there, but anything regarding the code itself, and what not, ask them, they know.
[03:12] <tonyyarusso> Nei: If you're trying to change the default system language, System>Administration>Language Selector
[03:12] <dooglus> crimsun: and so...?
[03:13] <Nei> tonyyarusso, I just want to change my own account language
[03:13] <crimsun> dooglus: and so generate the initramfs after you have compiled the kernel
[03:13] <Octane> is there a way to "print screen" like in windows
[03:13] <tonyyarusso> Nei: Otherwise, you can edit ~/.profile
[03:13] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[03:13] <cansa> having trouble with http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html any help?
[03:13] <HrdwrBoB> press printscreen
[03:13] <HrdwrBoB> :O
[03:13] <jamest> !head
[03:13] <ubotu> No idea, jamest
[03:13] <stimpie> Octane, just press "print screen"
[03:13] <davidpelaez> hello everyone. I've just intalled ubunto 5.04 ten minutes ago
[03:13] <penguinbrat> crimsun: true - but a while ago something I did in kde broke that rule I think, but like I said I could be wrong... I just know that because windoze or the hardware says it cant do something, I dont put it past linux to make it happen ;-)
[03:13] <jamest> !yak
[03:13] <ubotu> jamest: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:13] <Octane> stimpie: can i paste it in gimp?
[03:13] <jamest> !define yak a bitchy teenager from weston mass
[03:13] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, jamest
[03:13] <bobby> so...about updating from 5.04 to 5.10 ... is it just a straight dist-upgrade?
[03:13] <jamest> !define
[03:14] <ubotu> Not a clue, jamest
[03:14] <Silencer> -yak a bitchy teenager from weston mass-
[03:14] <solidgroove> davidpelaez, why not 5.10?
[03:14] <Silencer> Sorry, yak a bitchy teenager from weston mass not found!
[03:14] <Silencer> Sorry, you need to input a word!
[03:14] <davidpelaez> because i did not know it
[03:14] <Octane> its not working
[03:14] <dabaR> !+msg the bot
[03:14] <ubotu> msg the bot is, like, please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. /msg ubotu keyword, or especially if you do not know whether some factoid exists.
[03:14] <Octane> i hit prntscrn and then try to paste in Krita, and it doesnt wor
[03:14] <davidpelaez> but it did not ask me root password?? wich one is it???
[03:14] <Octane> k
[03:14] <jamest> dabaR, sorry i just couldn't resist
[03:14] <solidgroove> under system menu there is take screenshot
[03:14] <davidpelaez> it asked for a new user, not for root password
[03:14] <penguinbrat> jamest: lol - tell me about, I just logged on to ask about some corrupt packages on the reporitories and started throwing in my 2 cents worth =P what is a devo anyhow?
[03:14] <e0f> hi guys, i've got a problem with my ubuntu breezy box, i don't know why the breezy repository don't work, anyone that help me?
[03:14] <dabaR> jamest: whos bot is Silencer ?
[03:15] <dooglus> crimsun: I'm sorry, but I'm not following you.  should I use make-kpkg or debian/rules?  and does initramfs add .ko files to the kernel .deb or not?
[03:15] <jamest> penguinbrat , developing team
[03:15] <jamest> no idea :)
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> Nei: Add lines similar to LANGUAGE="fr_FR:fr"
[03:15] <jamest> not mine
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> Nei: LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8"
[03:15] <crimsun> dooglus: you're not packaging it like Ubuntu does, so stop trying to
[03:15] <penguinbrat> jamest: ahh...
[03:15] <Nei> tonyyarusso, I'll try
[03:15] <crimsun> dooglus: you'll probably find kernel-package easier
[03:15] <davidpelaez> how can i get the password??? it shoul have asked it to me in the installation, did not it?
[03:16] <jamest> but you have to be like a kernel hacker penguinbrat ...well thats not true
[03:16] <jamest> if you like documentation
[03:16] <dooglus> crimsun: that's exactly what I'm trying to do - I want to make a kernel package like the ubuntu one
[03:16] <penguinbrat> jamest: well its my only 2nd day on ubuntu, been on gentoo for the past couple of years...
[03:16] <crimsun> dooglus: a deb is generated if you use kernel-package if that's what you're after
[03:16] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about EVMS? or what device dm-7 might be?
[03:16] <jamest> penguinbrat !! yea
[03:16] <dooglus> crimsun: is it impossible to package the kernel like ubuntu does?
[03:16] <jamest> good old gentoo
[03:16] <asonjay99> hi, how do i network a linux computer to a windows computer
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> Nei: That will change all of the Gnome stuff (on your next login), but doesn't affect the terminal.
[03:16] <jamest> i love it
[03:16] <jamest> i put it on my macosx install
[03:16] <Nei> tonyyarusso, It doesn't work though :/
[03:16] <n0odl3> i just downloaded some source code for zsnes1.42... how do i build the source?
[03:16] <crimsun> dooglus: no, it's not impossible, it's just nonsensical for what you're trying to do
[03:17] <Nei> I just logged in again and gnome is still english
[03:17] <penguinbrat> jamest: havent done much kernel hacking other than figuring out what is going with such n such driver or hacking with the rtc...
[03:17] <briguyd> hi, i'm a complete n00b at linux in general and am having a problem setting up hp printing
[03:17] <e0f> anyone that tell me why the breezy ubuntu repository don't work?
[03:17] <Nei> I wrote LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 in ~/.profile
[03:17] <crimsun> dooglus: just build a deb using make-kpkg, then install it, then generate the initrd
[03:17] <durt> asonjay99: samba
[03:17] <dooglus> crimsun: I'm trying to make a single package that can be installed in a single shot.  I don't want the installation instructions to be any more than "get this .deb and dpkg -i it"
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> Nei: Did you log out and back in yet?
[03:17] <Nei> yes I did
[03:17] <asonjay99> durt: what
[03:17] <penguinbrat> pie: did that stuff work?
[03:18] <briguyd> im at http://localhost:631/printers and its asking for a login
[03:18] <davidpelaez> how can i get my root password if it was not asked to me during the installation process?
[03:18] <saniX> e0f; it's working fine with me
[03:18] <crimsun> dooglus: then read debian/rules
[03:18] <crimsun> you keep making this way more complicated than it is
[03:18] <asonjay99> durt: im prety new to linux
[03:18] <jamest> penguinbrat , isn't that a bitch...you help em and they bolt
[03:18] <penguinbrat> davidpelaez: dont fear - I was like wtf too when I installed ubuntu... there is no root password, just use sudo for everything...
[03:18] <dooglus> crimsun: do you know how the ubuntu kernel is built?
[03:18] <crimsun> dooglus: I just explained it to you.
[03:18] <durt> asonjay99: you need samba, but i dont really know enough about it to help you much:P
[03:18] <chuck87> penguinbrat: do you already check it? :$
[03:18] <penguinbrat> davidpelaez: or if there is, it doesnt tell you, or give you the option of changing it
[03:19] <jamest> davidpelaez , you can make one
[03:19] <e0f> saniX, can i pm you?
[03:19] <penguinbrat> jamest: lol
[03:19] <asonjay99> durt: ok
[03:19] <jamest> penguinbrat , sure you can
[03:19] <dooglus> crimsun: you did?  I thought you were telling me other ways to package it
[03:19] <jamest> lol
[03:19] <briguyd> anyone know what to type when I'm at http://localhost:631/printers and its asking for a login?
[03:19] <jamest> sudo root passwd
[03:19] <Dk_user> i not complete
[03:19] <jamest> then you can su
[03:19] <farruinn> penguinbrat: there is no root password at all by default
[03:19] <crimsun> dooglus: dude, every single time I mention debian/rules is a clue
[03:19] <Nei> tonyyarusso, I just added also a LANGUAGE=de_DE:de line but no avail (I did log out and in again)
[03:19] <davidpelaez> how can i create one?
[03:19] <penguinbrat> jamest: oh - well see there, complete newbie to ubuntu =P
[03:19] <dooglus> crimsun: that's a makefile.  what do you want me to do with it?
[03:19] <Dk_user> Su super user
[03:19] <jamest> davidpelaez , i just wrote it... just do >>>> sudo passwd root
[03:19] <crimsun> dooglus: you execute it.
[03:20] <jamest> enter your passwd
[03:20] <jamest> then enter the new root
[03:20] <penguinbrat> farruinn: aparently there is, jamest just said there was, but I have no idea how to get to it and havent really to, just been using sudo for evberything...
[03:20] <dooglus> crimsun: which target should I build?  and what variables should I set?
[03:20] <ecobuntu> anyone running dapper?
[03:20] <asonjay99> can some one help me network my linux and windows machine
[03:20] <nybble> anyone have an i810 video chipset?
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> Nei: So you have both that I posted, and no results?
[03:20] <briguyd> anyone know what to type when I'm at http://localhost:631/printers and its asking for a login?
[03:20] <jamest> penguinbrat , its cool...so am i...its just old school style...sudo is brand new
[03:20] <Nei> tonyyarusso, yea :/
[03:20] <crimsun> dooglus: obviously if you compile your own kernel, you have to be aware of the differences in patches that have already been applied (or not)
[03:20] <spacko> http://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/
[03:20] <FlannelKing> dapper?  dapper isn't much more than a thought at the moment
[03:20] <jamest> well ont brand new
[03:20] <ecobuntu> nybble:  what kind of computer?
[03:20] <jamest> FlannelKing , i'm using it now
[03:20] <crimsun> dooglus: you don't have to set any
[03:20] <ecobuntu> no dapper repositories are open
[03:20] <briguyd> it says i type in my root info... but there isn't really any
[03:20] <farruinn> penguinbrat: no, there isn't. There is a root users, yes, and you can set the root password with the command jamest gave you, but there is no root password preconfigured. That would be a major security risk
[03:20] <ecobuntu> it's unstable
[03:20] <chuck87> penguinbrat: do you already check it? :$
[03:20] <nybble> compaq presario sr11 something
[03:20] <davidpelaez> but there is no password, i try typing nothing and i says me that there a password problema
[03:20] <dooglus> crimsun: let's say I'm compiling the ubuntu sources as they stand
[03:20] <penguinbrat> jamest: yep, I dont think Ive ever used sudo before, cept for setting it up for other users.. heh
[03:20] <thoreauputic> jamest: sudo has been around for about 25 years ;)
[03:21] <nickrud> briguyd, you need to do sudo adduser cupsys shadow, and restart cupsys. you also need a root password
[03:21] <Dk_user> ecobuntu nybble:  what kind of computer?<------- a dual core
[03:21] <jamest> yep
[03:21] <jamest> davidpelaez , thats all you have to do...i do not undestand the problem
[03:21] <watnou> yawns
[03:21] <nybble> Dk_user: weirdo
[03:21] <penguinbrat> chuck87: sry, check the sound card?
[03:21] <briguyd> nickrud, umm, i have no idea what that means
[03:21] <slew> so if a program says that it cant gtk does that mean its not installed?
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> Nei: Okay...  I have the exact same thing and it works fine.  So first, let's double-check the lines, in case I miscopied or something.
[03:21] <nickrud> briguyd, a sec, I'll find the link
[03:21] <briguyd> ok
[03:21] <farruinn> davidpelaez: when you run sudo passwd root the first password you enter is your own password
[03:21] <briguyd> thanks
[03:22] <chuck87> penguinbrat: i don't understand! jaja, what in need to do?
[03:22] <asonjay99> does anyone know how to netowrk a windows and linux machine
[03:22] <nybble> anyways, can anyone help me get my video resolution up?
[03:22] <farruinn> davidpelaez: then is says something like "Enter UNIX root password" where you enter the root password you want
[03:22] <crimsun> dooglus: what aren't you clear about?
[03:22] <Nei> tonyyarusso, ~/.profile right
[03:22] <ecobuntu> !troll
[03:22] <ubotu> ecobuntu: Are you smoking crack?
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> Nei: LANGUAGE="de_DE:de"
[03:22] <davidpelaez> it did not do that!
[03:22] <Dk_user> Yes
[03:22] <thoreauputic> !tell nybble about resolution
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> Nei: LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8"
[03:22] <nybble> arleady looked at that
[03:22] <crimsun> dooglus: the Ubuntu way requires a specific tarball location
[03:22] <dooglus> crimsun: I'm not clear how to build a kernel package that has the same contents as the ubuntu kernel package
[03:22] <bur[n] er> blast... why does openGL suck so bad in breezy :\  (i'm just venting)
[03:22] <Nei> tonyyarusso, I'll replace it with de_DE
[03:23] <davidpelaez> it asks me for the pass, any idea of how to solve that. Couldn't it just setup a default password or something??
[03:23] <nybble> thoreauputic: already looked at that
[03:23] <farruinn> davidpelaez: it will say "password:" - this is _sudo_ asking for your _non_root_user_ password
[03:23] <tonyyarusso> Nei: What did you have?
[03:23] <penguinbrat> chuck87: ive' nvr used skype before, but the easiest way since it seems to be using the oss method, is to diable any apps that are using the sound system, that should free it up... apps like esd or arts - the sound deamons for gnome and kde respectively...
[03:23] <ecobuntu> so the splash screen that appears when i load ubuntu...now says xubuntu after i installed the 686 kernel
[03:23] <davidpelaez> this is not my first time with linux, i know it did not ask me for it. I typed "su" in my terminal and i asked me for the pass
[03:23] <ecobuntu> wierd....
[03:23] <dooglus> crimsun: which specific tarball?
[03:23] <Nei> tonyyarusso, I have nearly exact those lines
[03:23] <nickrud> briguyd, the web interface for cups is disabled in ubuntu; to enable it you need to do the commands ubotu told you about
[03:23] <davidpelaez> hey,
[03:23] <Nei> LANGUAGE="de_DE:de"
[03:23] <Nei> LANG="de_DE.UTF-8"
[03:23] <bur[n] er> ecobuntu: sure you didn't install xubuntu-desktop ?
[03:23] <jamest> davidpelaez , what exactly appens when you do sudo passwd root
[03:23] <davidpelaez> it worked now
[03:23] <ecobuntu> not the GDM screen or the splash screen when i load in to GNOME
[03:23] <davidpelaez> thanks!!!
[03:23] <crimsun> dooglus: ...the kernel source tarball
[03:23] <farruinn> davidpelaez: have you set a root password? You don't use su until you do
[03:23] <jamest> LOL
[03:23] <jamest> hahaah
[03:23] <ecobuntu> yup!
[03:23] <briguyd> nickrud, ok, did that, now what do i type as the login?
[03:24] <ecobuntu> no xubuntu on here
[03:24] <asonjay99> can anyone help me newtork my windows and linux computers
[03:24] <bur[n] er> ecobuntu: that's hte usplash screen
[03:24] <ecobuntu> ok
[03:24] <davidpelaez> first it gave an error, then i tried again with my passw and it asked for the new one, thanks
[03:24] <dooglus> crimsun: ok, I've got that.  what needs doing with the location of the tarball?
[03:24] <crimsun> dooglus: please, please read debian/rules.
[03:24] <jamest> davidpelaez , no worries :) glad it worked
[03:24] <ecobuntu> so my usplash screen says ubuntu with the 386 kernel and xubuntu with the 686 kernel
[03:24] <Dk_user> O.o
[03:24] <spacko> http://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/
[03:24] <davidpelaez> cya, thank u
[03:24] <dooglus> crimsun: it's 2766 lines of opaque makefile
[03:24] <JabbaHut> I've been using SuSE & Fedora... but I am looking at Ubuntu. It look good so far... Seems to be quite popular.
[03:25] <crimsun> dooglus: start reading
[03:25] <ecobuntu> rpm...inferior to deb
[03:25] <briguyd> ha, nevermind
[03:25] <briguyd> nickrud: thanks
[03:25] <slew> where is the pkg-config search path?
[03:25] <nickrud> briguyd, I checked, and I found what you did. no root needed :)
[03:25] <Nei> tonyyarusso, there must be some other trick to this. I think this file is only for your bash shell
[03:25] <jamest> penguinbrat , its fun though to give back like this...i love doing this
[03:26] <penguinbrat> jamest: i agree, but I will say that I have nvr been on any chat room as busy as this for any of the distro's...
[03:26] <jamest> ME NEITHER!
[03:26] <penguinbrat> jamest: n=P
[03:26] <tonyyarusso> Nei: Okay, maybe give it one more full logout shot, and if that doesn't work, I wasn't entirely sure about which file did it, so try copying ~/.profile to ~/.login and ~/.gnomerc  (.gnomerc is probably it - we got success on this before only after some experimentation)
[03:26] <nickrud> o-0
[03:26] <dabaR> !+enter
[03:26] <ubotu> don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[03:26] <ecobuntu> penguinbrat:  do to #debian
[03:26] <ecobuntu> i bet there are more people
[03:26] <tritium> bravo, dabaR :)
[03:27] <ecobuntu> yup 730 in debian
[03:27] <ecobuntu> 566 in ubunt
[03:27] <ecobuntu> u
[03:27] <treitter> has anyone built X.org from source recently?
[03:27] <dabaR> crimsun: do I have general permission to change factoids? if they are still good imo...
[03:27] <nalioth> nickrud: you old miscreant
[03:27] <slew> where is the pkg-config search path?
[03:27] <nickrud> hi nalioth
[03:27] <darkarchon> how many in gentoo o?
[03:27] <Nei> tonyyarusso, still english
[03:27] <crimsun> dabaR: I don't see why anyone wouldn't
[03:27] <penguinbrat> ecobuntu: ubuntu is my first exposure to debian, the last time I tried debian was a few years ago and it seemed it was way out of date, prolly something I was doing though =P
[03:27] <FlannelKing> just like it says, two.
[03:27] <nickrud> slew, that means you need a -dev package or two
[03:27] <ecobuntu> well debian is kind of slow unless you run sid
[03:27] <dabaR> crimsun: I mean, some of the bob2 ones:)) like the enter...
[03:28] <darkarchon> ecobuntu, not really
[03:28] <pie> penguinbrat: The disk is there, but as a user I can not get any acces to it, the cown command does not have rights, (with or without sudo) Help!
[03:28] <ecobuntu> slow = out of date
[03:28] <ecobuntu> sarge is out of date
[03:28] <darkarchon> yeah it is
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> Nei: If none of those three do it for you, then I'm out of ideas, because that's what I used, so at this point I'm quite confused.
[03:28] <durt> ubuntu is slow
[03:28] <ecobuntu> etch is out of date
[03:28] <darkarchon> but, who the heck uses sarge
[03:28] <bob2> dabaR: anyone can change them
[03:28] <darkarchon> or etch
[03:28] <ecobuntu> sid is where ubuntu is
[03:28] <krystoff> hi there please i can't install any extensions with Firefox
[03:28] <bob2> dabaR: which is fine, just don't make them worse
[03:28] <dabaR> bob2: oh youre here:P that was a joke.
[03:28] <Nei> tonyyarusso, do you mean to copy the same lines in a file ~/.gnomerc ?
[03:28] <pie> penguinbrat: It and up all the time: unvalid user..
[03:28] <slew> nickrud, so if i need to compile a program that needs gtk and gnet i need to sudo apt-get install gtk-dev?
[03:29] <ecobuntu> i use to use sid but it's just as easy to use ubuntu
[03:29] <farruinn> pie: what exactly are you trying to access?
[03:29] <krystoff> in #firefox they told me to uninstall and reinstall ... right ?
[03:29] <Nei> I haven't tried that, will do that now
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> Nei: Exactly.
[03:29] <bob2> no, ubuntu stable is more out of date, generally, than sid
[03:29] <bur[n] er> krystoff: no
[03:29] <jamest> penguinbrat , yea you were probably running sarge...they release like once every 3 years
[03:29] <darkarchon> ecobuntu, i dislike the point+klick style of ubuntu
[03:29] <ecobuntu> bob2: sid doesn't have gnome 2.12 yet though
[03:29] <penguinbrat> pie: sudo should have the rights regardless cuz it's root...  ahh, the username part is going to be the username you use to log in as...
[03:29] <krystoff> i'm listening to you bur[n] er
[03:29] <nalioth> slew: you need to "sudo apt-get build-dep pkgname" where pkgname is what you want to compile
[03:29] <darkarchon> nvm, i dont use ubuntu/debian/whatver
[03:29] <ecobuntu> bob2: though they do have the new kernel
[03:29] <nickrud> slew, pretty much.
[03:29] <bur[n] er> krystoff: you get errors or anything on installing?
[03:29] <bob2> ecobuntu: experimental does.  sid has 2.6.14 and firerfox rc1, for instance
[03:29] <krystoff> package eroor
[03:30] <krystoff> error
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> Nei: Once I hit upon something that worked I didn't bother experimenting with deleting stuff, so I only know that one of those three files did the trick; I'm not sure which.
[03:30] <darkarchon> * gnome-base/gnome
[03:30] <darkarchon>      Available versions:  !1.4-r3 2.8.2 2.8.3-r1 2.10-r1 2.10.1 2.10.2 2.12.0 2.12.1
[03:30] <krystoff> after ff download it
[03:30] <darkarchon> nvm
[03:30] <penguinbrat> jamest: that sounds kind of familiar, it was still on the 2.2 kernel or something really old, and it was all text based so it didnt last long =/
[03:30] <jamest> yea yea
[03:30] <bur[n] er> krystoff: default breezy version of firefox?
[03:30] <jamest> how do you like ubuntu?
[03:30] <pie> penguinbrat: somehow not..
[03:30] <krystoff> yes bur[n] er the dfault one
[03:30] <ecobuntu> so are you guys running sid or ubuntu then?
[03:30] <jamest> i think ubuntu is refreshingly easy
[03:30] <jamest> i'm 17 now
[03:30] <jamest> i started linux at 10
[03:30] <darkarchon> ecobuntu, gentoo unstable ._.
[03:30] <jamest> ??
[03:30] <jamest> darkarchon
[03:30] <ecobuntu> darkarchon:  lol...why are you here?
[03:31] <penguinbrat> pie: the invalid user part is what im talking about for the username...
[03:31] <bur[n] er> krystoff: tried as a different user?
[03:31] <darkarchon> because my gf is using ubuntu
[03:31] <darkarchon> :>
[03:31] <krystoff> not yet
[03:31] <Nei> tonyyarusso, meh can't get it to work
[03:31] <slew> nickrud, so if im trying to build a program, i sudo build-dep gtermix [the program im trying to build]  or build-dep gtk?
[03:31] <krystoff> but delete my profile
[03:31] <bur[n] er> darkarchon: good work ;)  my gf uses windows xp ;)
[03:31] <krystoff> the same no ?
[03:31] <sn0n> hey guys.. isnt there a page on supported laptops on ubuntu ?
[03:31] <jaramillo> what does a black background and brown letters mean in a 'ls' cmd output at gnome-terminal
[03:31] <jamest> sn0n , probably on ubuntu.org
[03:31] <nickrud> slew, nalioth gave much better details than I did :)
[03:31] <bur[n] er> krystoff: try it... might be an issue with your users profile
[03:31] <darkarchon> bur[n] er, she was pissed of windows
[03:31] <dabaR> shitty files":D
[03:31] <durt> i wish i had a gf ;)
[03:31] <jamest> its more what in the laptop :-D
[03:31] <krystoff> ok bur[n] er
[03:31] <krystoff> gonna try this
[03:31] <darkarchon> the first real os with multitasking
[03:31] <liable> sn0n: try tuxmobil
[03:31] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about EVMS? or what device dm-7 might be?
[03:31] <DaSkreech> can I somehow remove a meta package and everything that depends on it?
[03:31] <bur[n] er> lol@ durt
[03:31] <sn0n> ok
[03:31] <darkarchon> it can boot and crash simultanously
[03:32] <penguinbrat> jaramillo: I think the list is in /etc/DIRCOLORS, but what is coming to mind is a fifo...
[03:32] <spacko> http://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/
[03:32] <esc_ape> does anyone know how I can compress to .zip? I have some files I need to send to a windows friend...and they dont know how to open .rar etc...
[03:32] <bur[n] er> spacko: wtf?
[03:32] <slew> nickrud, ahh sorry, saw two n's at the same time. thanks though =] 
[03:32] <darkarchon> esc_ape, urgs
[03:32] <darkarchon> man zip
[03:32] <spacko> http://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/
[03:32] <luchoargentino> hola hay alguien que escriba en espaol
[03:32] <tonyyarusso> Nei: Sorry, but I'm out of options.  It may need a reboot or something.
[03:32] <spacko> wooops
[03:32] <spacko> ffs
[03:32] <jaramillo> penguinbrat: no /etc/DIR* here
[03:32] <esc_ape> darkarchon: man zip?
[03:32] <jamest> esc_ape , ZIP!
[03:33] <bob2> esc_ape: zip...
[03:33] <darkarchon> man = manual
[03:33] <darkarchon> zip = zip
[03:33] <jaramillo> in fact, im just using 'ls' not --colors
[03:33] <darkarchon> :P
[03:33] <DaSkreech> I'm trying to remove ubuntu-standard and everything that depends on it
[03:33] <darkarchon> man zip
[03:33] <esc_ape> oh duh
[03:33] <esc_ape> k
[03:33] <pie> penguinbrat: I'm sorry, I need another bottle of wine.., the second one did not tribbute so far..
[03:33] <luchoargentino> hola parece que no hay espaoles
[03:33] <Nei> tonyyarusso, yeh thanks very much for trying to help
[03:33] <jamest> jaramillo , check .bashrc
[03:33] <jamest> nei, whatsup?
[03:33] <darkarchon> urgs
[03:33] <dooglus> !es
[03:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:33] <darkarchon> < goin out for a smoke && to bed afterwards
[03:33] <darkarchon> its too late anyway.
[03:33] <darkarchon> 03:33am
[03:33] <darkarchon> x_X
[03:34] <jaramillo> k
[03:34] <jaramillo> yup
[03:34] <jaramillo> there it is
[03:34] <slew> nalioth, that apt-get build-dep gtk dosent seem to work :(
[03:34] <luchoargentino> y aca hay quien hable espaol
[03:34] <penguinbrat> esc_ape: zip newzipfile.zip [file list] 
[03:34] <jamest> slew, what are you tryign to do
[03:34] <nut543> What's the most relaxing and possible-to-work-with terminal font?
[03:34] <DaSkreech> penguinbrat: Still awake man? :-)
[03:34] <jamest> slew, gnome comes with gtk 2.0
[03:34] <jamest> hahaha
[03:34] <luchoargentino> sorreyyy o sorete como es
[03:34] <Nei> jamest, I want my gnome to be in my native language
[03:34] <darkarchon> whats the actual ubuntu kernel?
[03:35] <jamest> darkarchon , run uname -a
[03:35] <dabaR> darkarchon: umode
[03:35] <penguinbrat> jaramillo: i guess ubuntu is just using the default colors or something, DIRCOLORS is a config file for it... try man'ing ls see if it gives you the color coding...
[03:35] <dabaR> haha
[03:35] <jamest> yep
[03:35] <jamest> the do
[03:35] <darkarchon> i still do not run ubuntu
[03:35] <slew> jamest, im trying to build a program called gtermix, it is used to connect to old-school ansi type bbs programs over telnet. ./configure tells me it cant find gtk, or gnet.
[03:35] <darkarchon> thats the point
[03:35] <luchoargentino> aba aba du
[03:35] <bob2> darkarchon: please try to stay on-topc
[03:35] <phase-vii> I'm trying to run ubuntu...
[03:35] <jaramillo> k, thx dude
[03:35] <bob2> darkarchon: breezy uses 2.6.12.
[03:35] <n0odl3> i heard people that use free bsd look down on linux users?
[03:35] <luchoargentino> duque duque tton ton
[03:35] <darkarchon> thats what i wanted to know
[03:35] <darkarchon> thnx bob2
[03:35] <penguinbrat> DaSkreech: yeah, just trying to get pie running so I can get something to eat =P lol
[03:35] <phase-vii> having problems mounting the CD-ROM
[03:35] <luchoargentino> bob y bob2
[03:36] <bob2> n0odl3: no
[03:36] <penguinbrat> pie: err, thats cheating - LOL
[03:36] <DaSkreech> penguinbrat: Alt+F2 -> pie
[03:36] <sn0n> i guess if the laptop dont like linux.. i can always use win2k
[03:36] <sn0n> ;-)
[03:36] <slew> Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[03:36] <DaSkreech> penguinbrat: Where could I find out how to remove a package and everything that depends on it
[03:37] <nickrud> slew, start with libgkt2.0-dev, and libgnet-dev
[03:37] <dooglus> DaSkreech: debfoster can do that for you
[03:37] <ticklemonster> cant he do it from synaptic?
[03:37] <nut543>  What's the most relaxing and possible-to-work-with terminal font?
[03:37] <n0odl3> bob2: do you use freebsd?
[03:37] <dooglus> ticklemonster: I don't think so
[03:37] <penguinbrat> DaSkreech: i hope that isnt what he is doing... I would just use one of the package managers, although I dont know about removing all the dependencies..
[03:37] <jamest> slew, apt-cache search gtk |less
[03:37] <ticklemonster> thanks
[03:37] <bob2> n0odl3: no
[03:37] <phase-vii> Who can tell me what I'm doing wrong with my Live CD, b/c it won't run on my box.
[03:37] <ticklemonster> i wondered that myself
[03:37] <nalioth> slew: you'll need to do some research, and use actual pkg names
[03:37] <bob2> n0odl3: it's the same as linux users looking down on freebsd users
[03:38] <bob2> n0odl3: only the stupid teenagers do it, and they can be safely ignored
[03:38] <Earthen> anyone know of a how to for setting up pppo over ethernet for dsl connection
[03:38] <slew> nalioth, jamest, thanks
[03:38] <bob2> n0odl3: I'm sure many freebsd users are annoyed at the influx of clueless users to unix in general
[03:38] <budluva> can someone give me a hand here? i have a tnt2 and i ran the nvidia 7174 installer (*.run) and it compiled fine, after installation, remove Load "dri" and Load "GLcore" and add Load "glx" also replaced "nv" with "nvidia" saved, startx, x failed because could not load nvidia kernel module, screen found, but non have usable configuration
[03:38] <darkarchon> Earthen, pppoeconf maybe
[03:38] <bob2> nut543: terminus is quite pretty
[03:38] <budluva> any suggestions?
[03:38] <jamest> slew, so you got it?
[03:38] <n0odl3> bob2: i see... I dont know i was using a linux terminal in my school then some berkely kid came up to me and said
[03:39] <ticklemonster> budlova, I had probs with nvidia, until I realized that once you install nb you have to enable it
[03:39] <Antioch> When I echo my display system variable I get :0.0   what does that mean?
[03:39] <pie> penguinbrat: I will quit for to day. tomorrow Is way to close.., thanks!!!!!
[03:39] <n0odl3> bob2: "Damn linux user... wanna be hacker..." then gave me a really mean look
[03:39] <HrdwrBoB> hahahaha
[03:39] <HrdwrBoB> wannabe hacker
[03:39] <ticklemonster> lol
[03:39] <penguinbrat> budluva: run the dmesg command, there should be some lines at the bottom complaining about something when you tried to run X - when the nvidia module was attempted to be laoded
[03:39] <n0odl3> i dunno
[03:39] <slew> jamest, ha, i wish. it tells me no source package for libgtk2.0-dev
[03:39] <n0odl3> i dont even use linux to hack
[03:39] <dabaR> n0odl3: O_O
[03:39] <farruinn> n0odl3: you're going to assume all bsd users are like that person?
[03:39] <n0odl3> no
[03:40] <n0odl3> no i didnt mean that
[03:40] <penguinbrat> pie: lol - okay, I'll catch you later and good luck =)
[03:40] <budluva> ticklemonster nb?
[03:40] <pie> penguinbrat: Have a good suppur and get druk!. let's meet one day in thee Pub!
[03:40] <jamest> slew, you don't have to build from source
[03:40] <penguinbrat> pie: sounds like a plan! =D
[03:40] <slew> jamest i dont?
[03:40] <ticklemonster> less than a month
[03:40] <DaSkreech> dooglus: tell me more
[03:40] <pie> penguinbrat: it is...
[03:40] <n0odl3> dabaR: what with the emoticon
[03:40] <JabbaHut> Silly question- does Linux vs FreeBSD follow political lines (Rep vs Dem)?
[03:41] <ticklemonster> only in europe
[03:41] <esc_ape> no
[03:41] <Earthen> darksatanic:  where do i find that
[03:41] <nalioth> JabbaHut: take your silly question to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:41] <slew> jamest, it comes in an rpm flavor but debian hates rpms.
[03:41] <n0odl3> wait which party is which?
[03:41] <bob2> n0odl3: so ignore them, duh
[03:41] <DaSkreech> nalioth: oh aptitude doesn't seem to work with Meta packages
[03:41] <bob2> JabbaHut: no
[03:41] <nalioth> n0odl3: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:41] <farruinn> slew: what are you trying to install?
[03:41] <darksatanic> Earthen: Wha?
[03:41] <n0odl3> nalioth: ok... sorry about the off topic comments
[03:41] <pie> penguinbrat: same time tomorrow and we will talk about it, see you!
[03:41] <spacko> http://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/
[03:41] <phase-vii> Can someone help me load Ubuntu on my system from the Live CD?
[03:41] <spacko> http://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/
[03:41] <dabaR> bob2: pah
[03:42] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about EVMS? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with them?
[03:42] <tritium> spacko, please stop advertising
[03:42] <spacko> http://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/
[03:42] <jamest> slew, hell no grap a package not source
[03:42] <farruinn> spacko: install from the livecd? not possible yet unless you have the dvd
[03:42] <dabaR> tritium: spambot
[03:42] <spacko> ?
[03:42] <spacko> :|
[03:42] <bob2> phase-vii: download the install cd
[03:42] <spacko> http://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/
[03:42] <phase-vii> not install just run it
[03:42] <dabaR> spacko: why are you getting yourself banned from every chan?
[03:42] <e0f> cio
[03:42] <DaSkreech> dooglus: What does it do?
[03:42] <penguinbrat> pie: tomorow night I have class at this time so I may get on earlier and leave earlier =P
[03:42] <slew> farruinn, jamest, http://freshmeat.net/projects/gtermix/
[03:42] <phase-vii> it's hanging up trying to find the CD-ROM
[03:43] <penguinbrat> pie: but in any event - cool deal, will see you then ;-)
[03:43] <DaSkreech> Night penguinbrat
[03:43] <dabaR> obviously the guy is not a bot:))
[03:43] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: I got most of my issues fixed, except for a "(configure-thinkpad:13624): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:43] <tonyyarusso> " now when I try to run configure-thinkpad.  Any idea why?
[03:43] <penguinbrat> DaSkreech: night
[03:43] <Antioch> Is there a way to specify the color depth of incoming x applications to be displayed in on the local x server??
[03:43] <cge> dabaR: I have no idea - he did the same thing in #haskell.
[03:44] <tonyyarusso> Or would anyone else know what would cause a Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: error?
[03:44] <Earthen> darksatanic: sorry I wanted to say if you knew of a webpage that gave a good how too step by step because the Man page didn't get it working for me
[03:44] <dabaR> tonyyarusso: are you trying to run somethingt as root?
[03:44] <darksatanic> Earthen: Why are you asking me specifically?
[03:45] <dabaR> tonyyarusso: ya, actually, you tell me what caused it
[03:45] <darksatanic> I haven't said anything in this channel for at least 12 hours.
[03:45] <phase-vii> bob2: not trying to install, just trying to run it from the CD
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> dabaR: Yeah, it was as root.
[03:45] <dabaR> tonyyarusso: "{
[03:45] <dabaR> *
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> dabaR: configure-thinkpad
[03:45] <slew> darksatanic, what made you speak up now?
[03:46] <slew> =] 
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> dabaR: what does that mean?
[03:46] <darksatanic> slew: Earthen invoking my name...
[03:46] <jamest> darksatanic , i'm sure your mind was numbed
[03:46] <Earthen> darksatanic: sorry I was trying to type to darkacron
[03:46] <slew> hehehe
[03:46] <darksatanic> Earthen: Ah, OK. Mis-hit nick. :)
[03:46] <jamest> darksatanic , ahh involking i love it
[03:46] <Earthen> darksatanic: yeah sorry about that
[03:46] <slew> they keep pulling you back in
[03:47] <slew> hehe
[03:47] <DaSkreech> !debfoster
[03:47] <ubotu> debfoster is, like, A command to weed unnecessary .deb packages. See http://www.fruit.eu.org/debfoster/ and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2440
[03:47] <phase-vii> Okay so does anyone know of a problem finding the CD ROM using the Live CD?
[03:47] <phase-vii> and/or how to fix it?
[03:47] <jamest> phase-vii , bios
[03:47] <slew> jamest, the program im trying to install doesnt come in a debian pkg. =[
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> dabaR: Running it as a normal user opens a little windows saying "Neither /dev/thinkpad/thinkpad nor /dev/thinkpad exists.  Please create the device."  What do I do for that?
[03:48] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about Enterprise Volume Management Services? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with them?
[03:48] <jamest> slew...so do the usual
[03:48] <jamest> make from source
[03:48] <slew> hehe jamest thats what im trying to do
[03:48] <phase-vii> jamest: And what exactly do I do with the BIOS?
[03:48] <tritium> slew, which program?
[03:48] <dabaR> tonyyarusso: whaat are you running, did yo ever tell?
[03:48] <slew> http://freshmeat.net/projects/gtermix/
[03:48] <jamest> phase-vii , set it to cd running first
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> dabaR: configure-thinkpad
[03:48] <Antioch> does xnest work with xorg_
[03:49] <budluva> can someone give me a hand here? i have a tnt2 and i ran the nvidia 7174 installer (*.run) and it compiled fine, after installation, remove Load "dri" and Load "GLcore" and add Load "glx" also replaced "nv" with "nvidia" saved, startx, x failed because could not load nvidia kernel module, screen found, but non have usable configuration
[03:49] <phase-vii> jamest: no, it's already gotten past that I know how to use it, just not how to get past whatever is hangin git up in the middle
[03:49] <dabaR> tonyyarusso: so you need to run as root? I mean, run gksudo, tried that? Im not sure that is what you need.
[03:49] <bob2> budluva: ugh
[03:49] <bob2> budluva: you didn't use the nvidia drivers ubuntu ships with?
[03:49] <dwhsix> quick Q: is there any way to have the cursor jump to default button in a dialog?  Looked for it in the expected System | Preferences items, didn't find anything...
[03:49] <durt> budluva: whats wrong with nvidia-glx?
[03:50] <Cryptid> How do i make iso backup of cds using dd command (give me the exact command to be used).....
[03:50] <budluva> cant use nvidia-glx or glx-legacy
[03:50] <budluva> as i have A TNT2 i need 7174 drivers
[03:50] <bob2> Cryptid: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/whateva.iso
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> dabaR: Actually, it was okay as a normal user, but I'm missing devices, and don't know how to create them.
[03:51] <durt> budluva: get a debian packages then
[03:51] <dabaR> tonyyarusso: I could not tell you, stop asking me, ask the channel, and a good question.
[03:51] <budluva> why?
[03:51] <phase-vii> jamest: It says it can't find the CD-ROM and asks me for to find the device file or something like that
[03:51] <rain`> Hi, how do I restart my sound server?
[03:51] <budluva> whats wrong with the installer?
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> dabaR: Okay, thanks though.
[03:51] <DaSkreech> Someone somewhere must have wanted to remove a deb and all its dependent packages......
[03:51] <dabaR> 4sho
[03:52] <durt> budluva: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/nvidia-glx
[03:52] <dabaR> why?
[03:52] <Antioch> Can I use Xnest with xorg?
[03:52] <dabaR> Antioch: yes
[03:53] <DaSkreech> dabaR:Me?
[03:53] <dabaR> what?
[03:54] <Dk_user> hat??
[03:54] <DaSkreech> dabaR: You said 4Sho
[03:54] <DaSkreech> I was wondering if that was a response to my wailing
[03:54] <dabaR> no.
[03:54] <DaSkreech> :-(
[03:55] <phase-vii> Okay, so does anyone know why Ubuntu can't find the CD-ROM when I run it from the Live CD?
[03:55] <jamest> anywas
[03:55] <jamest> i gg all
[03:56] <jamest> phase-vii , seems like an installer error i get the same
[03:56] <jamest> weird
[03:56] <jamest> i'll report it
[03:56] <jamest> or fix it
[03:56] <Antioch> dabaR, how do I get a program to run on the xnested X display?
[03:56] <farruinn> wow, could you cut off your right pinky for us?
[03:56] <phase-vii> jamest: ah okay thx
[03:56] <dabaR> Antioch: it should load gdm for you.
[03:56] <jamest> thats so obnoxious
[03:56] <Antioch> dabaR, it doesnt, just does the standard gray bg with X cursor
[03:57] <n0odl3> how do i run ./configure?
[03:57] <dabaR> can you open a term, Antioch ?
[03:57] <jamest> Antioch , edit .xinitrc
[03:57] <slew> one of my mandriva friends said gtermix will never compile under debian, i kinda wanna prove him wrong. but so far hes right, since its not wanting to compile past the configure stage.
[03:58] <Antioch> dabaR,  I can open a term in my normal X...
[03:58] <dabaR> Antioch: gdmflexiserver --xnest
[03:58] <jamest> slew
[03:58] <dabaR> slew...
[03:58] <jamest> make a debian package out of the soruce
[03:59] <jamest> slew , do you still have the .tar.gz?
[03:59] <jamest> alien --to-deb (PKG).tar.gz
[03:59] <Antioch> dabaR, is there a way to create a new screen and run applications there?
[04:00] <slew> jamest, yes
[04:00] <dabaR> Antioch: ^
[04:00] <jamest> slew , see above for alien
[04:00] <dabaR> Antioch: I just did it in openbox.
[04:00] <FlannelKing> what is EVMS? anyone?
[04:01] <Antioch> dabaR, ? I would like to start an Xnest with 8 bit color so that I can have a remote x server forward x programs to run on that display
[04:01] <DaSkreech> Can I get some help for keywords when installing ubuntu?
[04:01] <Antioch> dabaR, but I wouldnt like to have gnome running on the other xnest
[04:01] <jamest> Antioch , why not just VNC?
[04:01] <DaSkreech> is the server package ubuntu-server or ubuntu-minimal?
[04:01] <jamest> faster cheaper cooler
[04:01] <DaSkreech> or server keyword actually
[04:02] <Antioch> Jamest server doesnt accept VNC, and the retarted software Im trying to run will only run in 8 bit.... I dont have this problem if I use an X emulator on windows... but with linux, I cant run the damn software =(
[04:02] <nickrud> DaSkreech, server for a fresh install from cd
[04:02] <slew> jamest, so its sudo --to-deb [pkg..] ?
[04:02] <DaSkreech> nickrud: Does that install ubuntu-server or ubuntu-standard?
[04:02] <DaSkreech> I just realized it can't be minimal
[04:03] <Antioch> dabaR, ? what do I need to know about edubuntu
[04:03] <dabaR> stop asking me.
[04:03] <dabaR> ask the #
[04:03] <DaSkreech> Antioch: What are you asking?
[04:03] <Kyral> Antioch, I know about Edubuntu
[04:04] <Antioch> Kyral,  I dont need to know about edubuntu, but ubotu thought dabar said I needed to know about it, lol, thats all
[04:04] <nickrud> DaSkreech, ubuntu-server doesn't exist in breezy; I'm not sure if standard or base is what is installed by server
[04:04] <DaSkreech> nickrud: Ah is it replaced it by something else?
[04:05] <slew> jamest cause it wants a password for alien
[04:05] <nickrud> DaSkreech, I did an apt-cache show ubuntu-<tab> ; no server. I think that's something spec'd for dapper
[04:06] <dabaR> tab?
[04:06] <lab> umm
[04:06] <lab> dustin@lab:~/downloads/MPlayer-1.0pre7try2$ make
[04:06] <lab> bash: make: command not found
[04:06] <lab> no make wtf ?
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> lab, get build-essential
[04:06] <crimsun> lab: install mplayer from multiverse
[04:06] <bobbyd_> hi
[04:06] <nickrud> dabaR, hit the tab key, bash completion is very nice
[04:06] <lab> crimsun,  no thanks
[04:07] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[04:07] <bobbyd_> I have a really annoying problem where remote ssh sessions are dropped after about 5 seconds of inactivity. can anyone suggest where to start looking to sort this out?
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> nickrud, i think dabaR knows the auto complete feature ... he been here for sometimes :P
[04:07] <lab> kk, thanks wickedpuppy
[04:07] <jamest> thats rediculou
[04:07] <jamest> s
[04:07] <jamest> lol
[04:07] <jamest> night all
[04:08] <tuxedo_kamen> listen, is there any vo-ip program for ubuntu, that allows me to perform phonecalls?
[04:08] <slew> thanks jamest
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> tuxedo_kamen, skype
[04:08] <bobbyd_> tuxedo_kamen: kphone
[04:08] <tuxedo_kamen> are those free?
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> tuxedo_kamen, yes
[04:08] <jamest> slew , new
[04:09] <DaSkreech> nickrud: Did you try a apt-cache search ubuntu-* ?
[04:09] <propagandhi> bobbyd_: you can change that timout in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:09] <tuxedo_kamen> but skype isn't the one where we need to pay for the phone calls?
[04:09] <citrosack> sorry for the windows question  but i am in windows right now and i was wonder  if anyone knew a really good mp3 tag editor for windows  such as easy tag for linux?
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> tuxedo_kamen, i been using skype for a year or so now ...
[04:09] <bobbyd_> propagandhi: is it set to 5 seconds by defulat?
[04:09] <tuxedo_kamen> o_O strange
[04:09] <tuxedo_kamen> where can i get it?
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> skype.com ?
[04:10] <bobbyd_> citrosack: itunes? windows media player?
[04:10] <Hobbsee> !tell tuxedo_kamen about skype
[04:10] <propagandhi> bobbyd_: that much I couldnt tell you, but u can set ClientAliveInterval to say 600 and the ClientAliveCountMax  to say 3 and that would equate to half an hour
[04:10] <propagandhi> bobbyd_: so you can do the math as to how long you would like
[04:11] <citrosack> no i ment a GOOD one
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> brown been spliting alot
[04:11] <slew> must be something it ate
[04:11] <citrosack> nevermind wrong place to ask
[04:12] <bjv> why does the kernel with Ubuntu second-guess my bios and shut numlock off for all terminals/x?
[04:12] <bjv> my bios is set to numlock on, and it goes on while POST/grub goes on
[04:12] <bjv> but the kernel switches it off.
[04:14] <slew> so what was the command for making a tar.gz into a debian pkg?
[04:14] <slew> anyone know?
[04:14] <benplaut> slew: install "checkinstall"
[04:14] <nalioth> slew: alien?
[04:14] <nalioth> slew: you should ask a question with more info in it
[04:14] <nalioth> slew: both answers are correct
[04:14] <slew> ok
[04:14] <benplaut> then run "checkinstall bleh" after "make" to turn it into a deb
[04:15] <slew> ahh i cant get to 'make' i cant get past ./configure
[04:15] <nalioth> benplaut: what if slew is converting a slackware source file?
[04:15] <chemisus> which ftp server is recommended mostly?
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> chemisus, opensource one
[04:15] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about Enterprise Volume Management Services? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with them?
[04:15] <benplaut> nalioth: good point, but unlikely
[04:16] <abarbaccia_> hey all - how do i make ubuntu stop shutting off my monitor - my system is hooked up to a TV and it keeps powering off when i don't want it to
[04:16] <benplaut> are slack packages usually .tgz instaed of .tar.gz? (same thing, diff name)
[04:16] <tuxedo_kamen> hum.... <_< it doesn't allow me to install libqt3c102-mt !!!
[04:16] <slew> nalioth, if i were doing anything with slackware i wouldnt be asking such dumb questions. =] 
[04:16] <benplaut> tuxedo_kamen: trying to install opera?
[04:16] <nalioth> slew: just pointing out that binaries from slack come in tar.gz format
[04:17] <krystoff> bur[n] er, even with a new user i can't
[04:17] <slew> alien wants a password, i put my pw in and it didnt like it and now it wont let me retry
[04:17] <durt> yeah, use the debian opera package (not the ubuntu one)
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> wtf
[04:17] <tuxedo_kamen> benplaut, skype
[04:17] <krystoff> it seems like if the repo filedir is wrong
[04:17] <krystoff> there's nothing at the specified url i can't even wget the extension
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> tuxedo_kamen, skype ... it has .deb just use dpkg
[04:18] <benplaut> oh
[04:18] <tuxedo_kamen> wickedpuppy, I have no idea on how to do that
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> tuxedo_kamen, then how ya installing skype ?
[04:19] <tuxedo_kamen> synaptic?
[04:19] <_native_> what was that all about?
[04:19] <benplaut> oohhhh
[04:19] <glauc> anyone else having CVS problems with eclipse?
[04:19] <tuxedo_kamen> but it just froze, and I have no idea on how to unfreeze it! >_<
[04:19] <benplaut> yeah, the official skype deb is b0rked
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> skype is in synaptic ? not in mine
[04:19] <benplaut> aliening the mandrake RPM works fine
[04:19] <benplaut> wickedpuppy: there's an official repo for it
[04:19] <tuxedo_kamen> wickedpuppy, I added that repository
[04:19] <tuxedo_kamen> brb
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> oh the repo .. i see yup
[04:20] <slew> alien: command not found
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> slew, sudo apt-get install alien
[04:20] <tritium> slew, then you should install it
[04:20] <benplaut> sudo apt-get install alien
[04:20] <benplaut> woops
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> make sure you install predator too
[04:20] <benplaut> too slow :(
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> so there will be alien vs predator
[04:20] <cansa> how would i find out which version of u dev i have?
[04:21] <cyphase> ooohh
[04:21] <tuxedo_kamen> ?? skype
[04:21] <cyphase> aaahh
[04:21] <slew> wickedpuppy, tritium, heh doing it now.. [sorry, dont be haten!] 
[04:21] <tritium> cansa, one way is with "dpkg -l udev"
[04:21] <cyphase> i'm running an ubuntu live cd in qemu
[04:21] <cyphase> :)
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> cansa, udevinfo -V
[04:21] <cansa> cheers guys
[04:21] <tuxedo_kamen> so, how can I install Skype, can anyone please help me? :|
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> i thought you are using the repo ?
[04:22] <ishP> hi all
[04:22] <tritium> slew, "haten" is not a word I'm familiar with
[04:22] <[koji] > tuxedo_kamen, didn't skype had a deb
[04:22] <slew> sorry
[04:22] <benplaut> tritium: you aren't from 'round here, are ya?
[04:22] <tritium> benplaut, where's that?
[04:23] <benplaut> round here, we don't liak furners
[04:23] <benplaut> the not-so-southern-hospitality :P
[04:25] <holycow> tuxedo_kamen, download the righ file from skype website, in terminal do dpkg -i file.deb to install
[04:25] <holycow> thats pretty much it
[04:25] <tritium> benplaut, it's the incorrect spelling...
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> benplaut, liak furners ?
[04:25] <tuxedo_kamen> .............
[04:25] <tuxedo_kamen> synapctic froze again
[04:25] <tuxedo_kamen> I think I found a bug
[04:25] <nalioth> can anyone help me get my wireless usb stick working on my ibook?
[04:25] <tuxedo_kamen> i get thie error:
[04:25] <durt> benplaut, thats a negro word, not a southern word
[04:25] <_native_> the term hate'in origiantes in the getos of the U.S
[04:25] <_native_> *gettos
[04:25] <bur[n] er> day took er jawbs
[04:25] <tuxedo_kamen> Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable
[04:25] <tuxedo_kamen> any idea on what to do?
[04:25] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: get the static pkg
[04:25] <slew> benplaut, so when it says gtermix_0.2-2_all.deb generated, what do i do then?
[04:25] <_native_> arabic coffee is very potent
[04:26] <benplaut> slew: "sudo dpkg -i gtermix_0.2-2_all.deb"
[04:26] <nalioth> slew: install it
[04:28] <durt> lol @ bur[n] er
[04:28] <nekostar> yeah
[04:28] <nekostar> my vid card isnt working atm !_!
[04:28] <nekostar> nvidia fx5200... i noticed uuber lag in the screensavers... how can i try to fix something like that?
[04:28] <slew> ok, it said setting up gtermix, i tried running gtermix, command not found. where did it install to?
[04:28] <slew> [you guys effen rule] 
[04:28] <bur[n] er> _native_: it's ghetto you illiterrate buffoon ;)
[04:29] <mtupper> hey all, full rookie here with the most basic of issues: i need to install a package from the CLI and not the nifty Synaptic GUI...  so i must learn some commands and I am having a heck of time figuring this out...   in terminal i was told to type:   $ apt-get install <package>     ...is this correct or am i missing something?
[04:29] <_native_> lol
[04:29] <_native_> dunt you takl liak tat at me
[04:31] <slew> nalioth, benplaut i dont think alien did anything, i cant find where it installed gtermix
[04:31] <mtupper> oops, i forgot to add sudo (i knew that):    $ sudo apt-get install <pkg>
[04:31] <_native_> sudo apt-get install package
[04:31] <_native_> !sudo
[04:34] <cansa> how do install udev 070?
[04:34] <mtupper> _native_:  oh, and this too:  when i do 'ls' it shows the package i want to install right there, then i run this cmd and it says:
[04:34] <mtupper> Reading package lists... Done
[04:34] <mtupper> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:34] <_native_> is the network slow or what?
[04:34] <_native_> seems to be crawling
[04:34] <nekostar> yeah thats right mtupper
[04:34] <slew> so if alien doesnt work then this program just wont work on ubuntu?
[04:34] <mtupper> E: Couldn't find package <pkg name>
[04:34] <nekostar> but you need to make sure your sources are uncommented
[04:35] <ubotu> sudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:36] <nekostar> and then do sudo apt-get update
[04:36] <nekostar> o: i bet your just missing the sudo
[04:36] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install package
[04:36] <nekostar> :)
[04:36] <bjv> mtupper: apt-get apt-cache and dpkg are pretty handy, you can do alot more with the terminal(like | grep and dpkg -c to find files on your box) that you cant do with the gui.
[04:38] <tuxedo_kamen> it didn't work, oh well...
[04:39] <nekostar> mtupper, your not typing in the $ right?
[04:39] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install xchat <<-- installs what im talking to ya through atm :D
[04:39] <tuxedo_kamen> anyone knows of a program for ubuntu that allows me to make phone calls?
[04:39] <nickrud> can someone tell me what those two bars below the user list in xchat indicate?
[04:39] <nalioth> slew: in your build directory, do an "ls" and see what binaries have been made
[04:39] <nalioth> mtupper: that is correct
[04:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mtupper about apt-get
[04:40] <nalioth> can anyone help me get my wireless usb stick working on my ibook?
[04:40] <tuxedo_kamen> hey, it's nalioth!
[04:40] <tuxedo_kamen> hi! :D
[04:40] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: know anything about broadcom wireless chipsets?
[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> o_O no, why?
[04:41] <mtupper> ok, so let me ask something maybe even more basic...   i can install debian packages with this command?
[04:41] <mtupper> sudo apt-get install <package.deb>
[04:41] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: because ndisreaper doesnt work on powerpc
[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> o_O
[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> that sounded like chinese to me
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[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> >_<
[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> anyone knows of a program for ubuntu that allows me to make phonecalls? :|
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> how do i setup VNc so it has java enabled?
[04:41] <nalioth> mtupper: enable universe and multiverse
[04:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mtupper about repos
[04:41] <cge_> _native_: well, calvino is split.
[04:41] <shoddy> hi i tried to install ubuntu onto my laptop but it hung at the part where it detects the cd
[04:41] <phinnaeus> can someone give me assistance with my sound card?
[04:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shoddy about verify
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> i start up VNC and it is on ports 6001 and 5901 but i try to connect in a browser and it doesn't work
[04:41] <illicit> Loneowlf: I believe, the browser part of VNC is a Java viewer correct?
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> yes...
[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> :S
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> and java is enabled on my computer
[04:41] <Nihil> an hd can't multiplicate its partitions randomly
[04:41] <Nihil> i cannot believe it
[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> anyone knows of a program for ubuntu that allows me to make phonecalls from my home pc?
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> illicit:yes, why?
[04:41] <illicit> LoveWolf: Just seeing if i could understand your situation.
[04:41] <illicit> Apprently i can't spell
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> lol, i've used VNC before
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> and i know there are 2 ways, a VNc viewer, Then A Jvascript p
[04:41] <illicit> yah
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> javascript*
[04:41] <illicit> the java viewer is on a different port than the regular viewer i believe
[04:41] <illicit> 6002 maybe
[04:41] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: search synaptic for VoIP
[04:41] <illicit> first off, are you using....VNC or "Tight VNC"
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> VNC-common
[04:41] <illicit> okay
[04:41] <Nihil> ??????
[04:41] <Nihil> today is the poltergeist day!?!?!?
[04:41] <Nihil> first my hd then the channel?
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> illicit:there's 6001 and 5901 ... those are both open
[04:41] <illicit> alright
[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> CarlFK, but I don't know what to install! :|
[04:41] <illicit> are you attempting this locally or remotely?
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> locally
[04:41] <Nintendofreq> I need help...
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> and i nmap it and i can see te open ports
[04:41] <illicit> did u make sure u enabled the java script option to me turned on?
[04:41] <illicit> or did u just start the server....
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> vncserver
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> just that
[04:41] <bob2> LoneWolf071: nmap of yourself is of no use
[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> anyone knows of a program for ubuntu that allows me to make phonecalls from my home pc? -_-
[04:41] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: Try kphone
[04:41] <bob2> mtupper: no
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> what's the arg to start the javascript version
[04:41] <bob2> tuxedo_kamen: shtoom
[04:41] <Nintendofreq> Can anyone here help me with installation
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> Nintendofreq:What do You Need?
[04:41] <shoddy> hey yeah me too
[04:42] <tuxedo_kamen> bob2, what? o_O
[04:42] <illicit> LoneWolf071: Err....i can't recall, "man vncserver"
[04:44] <shoddy> my install hangs at the part when it searches for the cd
[04:44] <mtupper> nalioth:  can you elaborate?  i did that in synaptic, but in terminal CLI, its beyond my current know-how...
[04:44] <LoneWolf071> illicit:i think it's a seperate package
[04:44] <Nintendofreq> I'm running off live CD and want to dual boot with XP. Ive never really used linux before...
[04:44] <Aven> hey
[04:44] <shoddy> and it complains about irq 15 on the virtual console
[04:44] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: you will proably want an account from http://www.freeworlddialup.com/
[04:44] <Aven> is there a way to install gd library using apt-get ?
[04:44] <Gobbla_> anybody know a good ripping software that support x264?
[04:44] <illicit> LoneWolf071: You might, be right...give me a couple minutes, ill run through it
[04:44] <Nintendofreq> I'm mostly worried about partitioning the HD. Cant find free tool thats easy.
[04:44] <LoneWolf071> Nintendofreq:Ok, Well First, Back Up All Of Your Data
[04:44] <LoneWolf071> illicit:Ok, TY
[04:44] <Nintendofreq> got that
[04:44] <LoneWolf071> Nintendofreq:Ok, So Next, You Need To Partition Your Drive
[04:44] <Nihil> hallo
[04:44] <bjv> mtupper: what did you need? repos are listed in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:44] <bob2> "ripping" of what?
[04:44] <Nihil> i have a very big problem, not concerning Ubuntu. a damaged HD portatile box has EATEN an hardisk of mine... now it seems not formatted and both windows and linux cannot read it
[04:44] <Nintendofreq> I have the ubuntu install CD too
[04:44] <Nihil> can anyone help me?
[04:44] <Nihil> a program to rescue hardisk?
[04:45] <mtupper> bob2:  no what?  no, i cant install debian packages using 'sudo get-apt install <pkg.deb> ???
[04:46] <tuxedo_kamen> carlfk, what should I write in "User Part of SIP URL:" and "Host Part of SIP URL:"?
[04:46] <LoneWolf071> Nintendofreq:Ok, We Can Guess That, But You Need To
[04:46] <LoneWolf071> PArtition Your Drive
[04:46] <odie5533> How do I change my default java version to SUN?
[04:46] <newbie2> hello all
[04:46] <Nintendofreq> how?
[04:46] <illicit> LoneWolf071: You have to seperately install the java pkg of vnc...
[04:46] <LoneWolf071> Nintendofreq:http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/partitioneditors.shtml
[04:46] <sri> hi all
[04:46] <LoneWolf071> illicit:is the package name vnc-java?
[04:46] <sri> question, does anybody have a deb of the new rhythmbox?
[04:46] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: it is like buying a phone, and getting service.  you need both, so get the service from http://www.freeworlddialup.com
[04:46] <nalioth> mtupper: elaborate on what?
[04:46] <sri> also does anybody have a deb of the last release of evolution?
[04:46] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: there are others, but I like FWD
[04:46] <shoddy> hi i need some help installing onto my laptop
[04:46] <illicit> LoneWolf071: Yes
[04:46] <LoneWolf071> well i do apt-get install vnc-java nad it tells me the package is obsolete
[04:46] <tuxedo_kamen> -_- CarlFK, can I please PM you?
[04:46] <bob2> mtupper: correct
[04:46] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: no
[04:46] <newbie2> what are the odds of making an ATI Radoeon Mobility  card work
[04:46] <tuxedo_kamen> ok...
[04:46] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: A) others should see thistoo, b) I am about to go
[04:46] <bjv> mtupper: oh, no no,   you need  dpkg
[04:46] <bjv> mtupper: man dpkg   in the terminal
[04:46] <shoddy> can anyone help me?
[04:47] <bob2> LoneWolf071: uh, the ubuntu installer includes a partioning tool
[04:47] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: do you want to just talk to other computer users, or people with just a phone (no computer)?
[04:47] <nickrud> odie5533, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:47] <mtupper> ah, ok guys, let me read up on that first, thanks...
[04:47] <tuxedo_kamen> just a phone, no computer, carlfk !
[04:47] <illicit> LoneWolf071: My apt-get install worked perfect..
[04:47] <illicit> LoneWolf071: Do you have default Repositories?
[04:47] <LoneWolf071> kk
[04:47] <LoneWolf071> yes
[04:47] <odie5533> nickrud, thanks
[04:47] <Nihil> hallo
[04:48] <LoneWolf071> and the universal
[04:48] <Nihil> i have a very big problem, not concerning Ubuntu. a damaged HD portatile box has EATEN an hardisk of mine... now it seems not formatted and both windows and linux cannot read it
[04:48] <Nihil> can anyone help me?
[04:48] <Nihil> a program to rescue hardisk?
[04:48] <newbie2> rescue how
[04:48] <mtupper> tuxedo_kamen: kphone and linphone are SIP phones you can use with many services like FWD for making inet phone calls to the pstn...
[04:48] <illicit> LoneWolf071: Give me 1 second and ill grab an updated list of working Repos....Hoary HedgeHog your distro?
[04:48] <LoneWolf071> bob2:Ok, Didn't Know, And Sometimes The Text PArtitioning can be hard for newbs
[04:48] <LoneWolf071> yes
[04:48] <tuxedo_kamen> mtupper, sorry but I didn't understand anything you just said :|
[04:49] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: ok, then FWD wont help. (that is just for computer to computer calls)
[04:49] <tuxedo_kamen> :-\ so... how can I do it?
[04:49] <illicit> LoneWolf071: http://download.ubuntuforums.org/ubuntusetup
[04:49] <bjv> Nihil: if you put a drive in an external enclosure and now it does not work. does that mean it was dropped?
[04:49] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: for computer to phone, you will need to pay, like 2cents per min
[04:49] <illicit> LoneWolf071: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources_list"
[04:49] <bjv> Nihil: or that the enclosure contained a logic board and turned your disk into half of a raid or something.
[04:49] <tuxedo_kamen> o_O
[04:50] <tuxedo_kamen> is there no free one?
[04:50] <newbie2> nihil go to www.nonags.com and download the ultimate boot cd excelent partion tool for free
[04:50] <foxgamer> Hi all. I seem to have made a mess with my screensavers. Is there anyone that can help?
[04:50] <Nihil> bjv, no. it means that before the HD worked. Now it's like a poltergeist possess it
[04:50] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: http://voip-info.org/wiki/view/What+is+VOIP
[04:50] <shoddy> hi can someone please help me out?
[04:50] <Nihil> newbie2, thanks. i will do it
[04:50] <LoneWolf071> illicit:i got it... i know how to do that simple stuff
[04:50] <newbie2> I have used it to repair many HDs
[04:50] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: the only free is computer to computer.  as soon as a phone company is involved, there is a charge
[04:51] <Nihil> bjv, the HD seems to be not partitioned, even if it was FAT32
[04:51] <illicit> LoneWolf071: :) Just making sure.
[04:51] <bjv> Nihil: well if you can attache the disk to an IDE channel, and find it with /dev/hdXY then the drive is probably OK. though might be unparted
[04:51] <LoneWolf071> illicit:Ty
[04:51] <tuxedo_kamen> carlfk, but... so, how do you explain that I found one that work but ONLY for some countries?
[04:51] <Nihil> bjv, can we talk in private?
[04:51] <bjv> Nihil: just try hitting it with an fdisk or similar, some programs can guess at deleted parts.
[04:52] <bjv> assuming the drive hasnt been formated.
[04:52] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: http://voip-info.org/wiki/view/What+is+VOIP
[04:52] <tuxedo_kamen> ... i already saw that
[04:52] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: did you read it?
[04:52] <tuxedo_kamen> but i also told you that i saw one that works, but ONLY for some countries!
[04:52] <LoneWolf071> illicit:Let Me Ask, What Port Does Apt use, 80?
[04:52] <tuxedo_kamen> I mean, I was able to call spanish phones, but not portuguese ones! >_<
[04:52] <shoddy> does anyone know how to disable irqs for the install program?
[04:52] <shoddy> i know that irq 15 is causing the problem
[04:53] <bird> i need help
[04:53] <LoneWolf071> bird:give us a little more then that
[04:53] <illicit> LoneWolf071: It uses whichever port is listed in the repos....ftp = 20-21, http = 80
[04:53] <newbie2> you set irqs in the bios right
[04:53] <bird> when i run a .run file it tells me to be a super user
[04:54] <bird> but i cant run it in terminal
[04:54] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: no clue.  I haven't seen any limitations like that
[04:54] <shoddy> yeah, but my bios is very simple, ibm thinkpad
[04:54] <bird> so how do i run it
[04:54] <newbie2> mmm
[04:54] <CarlFK> thats it, I am outa here.
[04:54] <bird> when i run a .run file it tells me to be a super user
[04:54] <newbie2> bird what?
[04:54] <bird> but i cant run it in terminal
[04:54] <CaNzA> great the server is takin a dump on my screen
[04:54] <bird> so how do i run it
[04:54] <tuxedo_kamen> carlfk, I would show you the site, but I only have it on windows! >_<
[04:54] <Phuzion> Is php4 taken off of the Ubuntu apt-get?
[04:54] <LoneWolf071> illicit:i updated the sources, but got a bunch of dead links or "failed to open file"
[04:54] <LoneWolf071> Err ftp://ftp2.caliu.info hoary-backports/restricted Packages
[04:54] <LoneWolf071>   Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.  '
[04:54] <budluva> bird alt-f2 then gksudo blah.run
[04:54] <illicit> LoneWolf071: Your using Hoary Hedgehog correct?
[04:54] <bird> i need to run a shell script in gnome but while i am a super user
[04:54] <tuxedo_kamen> carlfk, thanks anyway, I guess i'll be going to bed
[04:54] <lajuj> howdy
[04:54] <bird> ty
[04:54] <LoneWolf071> yes
[04:55] <newbie2> sudo -s
[04:55] <newbie2> bird try sudo -s
[04:55] <Phuzion> Did php4 get taken off of apt-get or something?
[04:55] <illicit> LoneWolf071:  Ok your messed up in some way...make sure all the repos that were previously in there are gone
[04:55] <LoneWolf071> they are
[04:55] <bird> okey that helped alot it works now
[04:55] <newbie2> just type exit to get back out of the root bird
[04:55] <illicit> LoneWolf071: And delete the "Backports" section... since backports for ubuntu always change
[04:55] <illicit> LoneWolf071: should be #Backports and 2 URLS...delete those
[04:55] <LoneWolf071> illicit:backports?
[04:56] <Phuzion> Anyone here know a bit about apt-get?
[04:56] <LoneWolf071> illicit:Backup?
[04:56] <lajuj> is there someone who could give a bit of help with my wireless setup.  I have a laptop use cable at home and wireless on the go.  I've finally gotten the drivers installed for my wireless card, but I haven't had any luck connecting to wireless networks.
[04:56] <LoneWolf071> Phuzion:Join The Convo.
[04:56] <illicit> LoneWolf071: The very last section under sources_list...is #Back*  delete it...
[04:56] <Phuzion> I would, but no one's talking on subject's I'm familiar with
[04:57] <newbie2> any one know of a driver for an ATI Radeon 9000 on a notebook
[04:57] <Discipulus> what Kern is Breezy running?
[04:57] <illicit> 2.6
[04:57] <Agrajag> Linux mwowm 2.6.12-9-k7 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:47:52 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:57] <Agrajag> that one
[04:57] <Discipulus> oh
[04:58] <mtupper> FINALLY!!!  the magic combo:  sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>  ...   you guys must laugh when a rookie dwells over something so simple, but how gratifying to finally get it going!!!  another convert well on his way.   peace-out--
[04:58] <Discipulus> they got packages out for 2.6.14 yet?
[04:58] <Agrajag> Discipulus: no, and they never will in breezy
[04:58] <LoneWolf071> illicit:it works, TY
[04:58] <odie5533> Any Ubuntu dev here?
[04:58] <illicit> Agrajag: How is gnome2???
[04:58] <nomasteryoda|w> mtupper, where abouts are you from?...
[04:58] <illicit> Agrajag: Or whatever it's labeled
[04:59] <sells> tritium: hey Mike
[04:59] <lajuj> Ubuntu sees my wireless card, but I am not sure about how to actually find and connect to wireless networks.  Can someone help me?
[04:59] <Agrajag> huh? it's fine, I've been using gnome 2.x since it came out
[04:59] <illicit> LoneWolf071: Alright no problem, did u grab java-vnc?
[04:59] <nomasteryoda|w> mtupper, down in GA, usa
[04:59] <mtupper> i am from Portland, OR and living in Vina del Mar, Chile.
[04:59] <nomasteryoda|w> wow
[04:59] <kevman> Will Ubuntu release packages for OpenOffice 2.0.0?
[05:00] <Agrajag> kevman: yes, in Dapper.
[05:00] <Phuzion> lajuj, do you have the proper drivers loaded for your wireless card?
[05:00] <newbie2> lajuj click on system then administration and then network
[05:00] <Quest-Master> nomasteryoda|w: where in GA?
[05:00] <lajuj> phuzion, I do
[05:00] <nomasteryoda|w> kevman, you can make them pretty simply using the alien package
[05:00] <nomasteryoda|w> Macon
[05:00] <Quest-Master> Ah, I'm in Kennesaw
[05:00] <nomasteryoda|w> cool
[05:00] <lajuj> phuzion, Ubuntu sees my wireless card, I believe
[05:00] <kevman> Alien an RPM, you mean, nomasteryoda|w ?
[05:00] <nomasteryoda|w> alien
[05:01] <kevman> Becuase 1.9.129 is fucking unstable.
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> is a conversion tool for making packages into format for the distro you use
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> kevman, apt-get install alien
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> then type man alien
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> very simple to do
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> really
[05:02] <kevman> That's what I mean. Then convert what package?
[05:02] <nomasteryoda|w> kevman, you get the whole rpm package from openoffice
[05:02] <foxgamer> Could I trouble someone for some help regarding an error I'm getting with my screensavers?
[05:02] <nomasteryoda|w> kevman, extract it
[05:03] <nomasteryoda|w> then "alien -d *.rpm"
[05:03] <nomasteryoda|w> that is if -d is right
[05:03] <nomasteryoda|w> did 2 weeks ago
[05:03] <kevman> Oh, the install is a tar.gz  RPM?
[05:03] <newbie2> anyone here do much with embeded?
[05:03] <nomasteryoda|w> rpms inside that file
[05:03] <nomasteryoda|w> yes
[05:03] <nomasteryoda|w> newbie2, not me
[05:04] <kevman> Alright.
[05:04] <nomasteryoda|w> kevman, the menu option is already in deb format and will install perfectly on ubuntu
[05:04] <phinnaeus> what is the process for installing sound card drivers?
[05:04] <newbie2> I just had some questions about flash memory
[05:05] <phinnaeus> does anyone know?
[05:05] <kevman> nomasteryoda|w, what menu option?
[05:06] <newbie2> phinnaeus have you tried the wiki
[05:06] <nomasteryoda|w> kevman, there's a folder inside that file that contains menu items for all common distro installer formats
[05:06] <nomasteryoda|w> works well
[05:07] <kevman> Ok, I'll have to look at the contents. But my INternet is horrible and the download won't be done till tommorow.
[05:07] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[05:07] <nomasteryoda|w> you'll get it going
[05:07] <nomasteryoda|w> uninstall the one that's there
[05:07] <nomasteryoda|w> i removed all references on suse and ubuntu on my boxes
[05:08] <nomasteryoda|w> and installed the 2.0 from oo site
[05:08] <newbie2> phinnaeus https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards?highlight=%28cards%29%7C%28sound%29
[05:09] <kevman> Its current condition is unusably crashappy
[05:11] <bobbyd_> hi
[05:11] <nomasteryoda|w> howdy bobbyd_
[05:11] <bobbyd_> I accientally deleted some files belonging to a package, how do I force it to remove the rest of the file, or just force it to reinstall the package?
[05:12] <Nihil85> hello
[05:12] <newbie2> nomasterhoda|w how long have you been in Linux
[05:12] <bobbyd_> Nihil85: hi
[05:12] <xulin> nanuit
[05:12] <nomasteryoda|w> newbie2, since about 1998
[05:13] <nomasteryoda|w> used in 1996 for a while
[05:13] <nomasteryoda|w> so pretty much a long time
[05:13] <solidgroove> how can I get mp3 support in sound juicer, theres no gstreamer-lame in universe
[05:13] <nomasteryoda|w> linux is so good and fun
[05:13] <newbie2> last time i messed with Unix was in 96 it is comming back slowly
[05:13] <nalioth> solidgroove: gstreamer0.8- whatever you desire
[05:13] <nomasteryoda|w> even with issues like gstreamer
[05:13] <nalioth> solidgroove: for mp3, -mad
[05:14] <bobbyd_> anyone? I need to do it fro the command line as well...
[05:14] <goatboy> solidgroove: gstreamer0.8-lame is in multiverse
[05:14] <newbie2> took me a while to solve the codec riddle
[05:15] <newbie2> M$ hid it well
[05:16] <newbie2> is there anything that will let you use winbox video drivers
[05:16] <nalioth> newbie2: winbox?
[05:16] <newbie2> windows
[05:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell newbie2 about w32codecs
[05:16] <newbie2> i have the codec
[05:17] <newbie2> i need to use a driver
[05:17] <_native_> ?
[05:17] <nut543> now me goes
[05:17] <_native_> lates
[05:17] <lajuj> can someone help me a bit configuring my wireless card - My drivers are installed, but even when I activate the card in networking I still am not detecting wireless networks
[05:17] <_native_> what card chipset?
[05:18] <lajuj> broadcom
[05:18] <_native_> lajuj,
[05:18] <newbie2> ndiswrapper?
[05:18] <lajuj> I have rung ndiswrapper and installed the drivers just fine
[05:18] <lajuj> and when I ifconfig I see the wlan0
[05:18] <newbie2> r u using the correct wep
[05:19] <lajuj> well, I don't have a specific wireless network
[05:19] <lajuj> I just want to be able to connect to whatever is around
[05:19] <newbie2> well you will need the wep for what ever is around
[05:19] <nalioth> newbie2: you do not, for open networks
[05:19] <newbie2> true
[05:19] <nalioth> lajuj: iwlist --help doesn't enlighten you?
[05:19] <newbie2> just have not seen many of those
[05:20] <_native_> i see tons in my area
[05:20] <lab> Changing gdeskcal font size ?
[05:20] <newbie2> must be nice
[05:20] <_native_> its amazing how people just plug it their routers and thinks thats it.
[05:20] <newbie2> i dont doubt it now that you mention it
[05:21] <_native_> me thinks :-P
[05:21] <lajuj> nalioth, let me check iwlist out
[05:21] <_native_> i dont touch others nets though.
[05:21] <_native_> unless they dont care.
[05:22] <newbie2> people around here are not so generous
[05:22] <newbie2> I see about 12 around my house all secure
[05:22] <billyoc> here either, just stupid
[05:23] <rain`> Hi, I am trying to run the command # echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss from a sh file, but obviously the sh file thinks its a comment, how do I run that from the file?
[05:23] <newbie2> I know I turned off my SSID and locked it with wep
[05:24] <Discipulus> when will breezy have the package for 2.6.14
[05:24] <apokryphos> never
[05:24] <apokryphos> Breezy has been released
[05:24] <goatboy> rain`: remove the # when you run it.
[05:25] <rain`> goatboy: then you get a permission denied error, you need the # when you run it in terminal
[05:25] <rain`> goatboy: it does work like that, i dont know why
[05:25] <goatboy> rain`: the # just means it's meant to be run as root, run this:
[05:25] <goatboy> echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" | sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> Can anyone tell me how to create a device?  I'm getting an error message of /dev/thinkpad/thinkpad and /dev/thinkpad not found; device does not exist; please create device, and I don't know how to do that.
[05:26] <newbie2> wouldnt you know it the only thing I found about the ATI Radeon on the Wiki and its in Italian
[05:26] <YAFU> lmao
[05:26] <arthurse> how to kill a application that freeze?
[05:27] <GigaClon> GAIM has not been able to login to AIM for a couple of days
[05:27] <ispiked> when will ubuntu package x-chat 2.6.0?
[05:27] <rain`> GigaClon: mine works just fine, so it must be on your end
[05:27] <Madpilot> newbie2: there's English ATI info on wiki.ubuntu.com too
[05:27] <newbie2> Aim has a virus on the lose
[05:27] <mustard5> arthurse, which application?
[05:27] <rain`> its a super virus too...:P
[05:27] <newbie2> i ll try again
[05:28] <madalena> hello
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> I'm logged into AIM with Gaim just fine right now.  (Although it has been a little sketchy and disconnecting occasionally as of late.)
[05:28] <YAFU> Aim has a virus?
[05:28] <geoizil> I always get disconnected of AIM
[05:28] <newbie2> root kit
[05:29] <YAFU> cute
[05:29] <newbie2> some url shows up if you goto it it installs a root kit
[05:29] <GigaClon> trobleshooting help?
[05:29] <rain`> goatboy: well that works, but it asks me for a password :( the # method didnt seem to need that
[05:29] <Madpilot> !tell newbie2 about ati
[05:29] <brist0w> hello. anyone here from canada? any of you use shipit?
[05:29] <newbie2> i would like to know myself madpilot
[05:29] <YAFU> # was just stating you need to run the command as a super user :o
[05:29] <goatboy> rain`: the # method didn't run at all :)
[05:29] <nalioth> newbie2: then check your msgs
[05:30] <Madpilot> newbie2: you should have gotten a msg from ubotu - that was a command to the bot
[05:30] <rain`> goatboy: it ran from the terminal and didnt ask me for a password, but it didnt run from the sh file
[05:30] <newbie2> wasnt watching sorry
[05:30] <GigaClon> its says can't connect to host
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> brist0w: I'm in Canada, but I'm from the States.  Someone else in the room might be able to answer a question though; what do you need?
[05:30] <newbie2> thanx
[05:31] <newbie2> i forget about that sometimes
[05:31] <brist0w> just wondering about how long ship-to-delivery takes. found out about it recently, ordered it, and was delayed because of the upcoming release. the order was handed off to the shipping company about 3 weeks ago, but it still hasn't arrived... wondering if that's typical or not
[05:31] <rain`> YAFU: Why does # not ask me for a password then?
[05:31] <solidgroove> multiverse is broken?
[05:31] <arthurse> mustard5, xmule freeze!
[05:32] <Antioch> What command can I use to search the PATH for a binary file?
[05:32] <newbie2> Madpilot do you know anything about Looking Glass? is it very stable?
[05:32] <goatboy> rain`: in sh, everything after a # is treated as a comment (meaning it isn't run)
[05:32] <nalioth> brist0w: 4-8 weeks
[05:32] <brist0w> also, what's a decent-performing minimum config for an ubuntu system? if I can install it on a PIII-600 with 128M RAM, is that a decent machine, or should I be looking for something more muscular? should I inisit on more memory (a-la-windows :)?
[05:32] <Madpilot> newbie2: I don't even know what "Looking Glass" is...
[05:32] <mustard5> arthurse, try killall <applicationname>
[05:33] <nalioth> brist0w: more memory is good for all OS'
[05:33] <arthurse> mustard5, worked, tnx
[05:33] <mustard5> arthurse, or alternatively click rapidly on the kill button for a while
[05:33] <brist0w> nalioth: thanks. then i shall simply bit shift my patience one bit left. :)
[05:33] <nalioth> brist0w: you can run a light window manager on that machine
[05:33] <Madpilot> brist0w: I think they ship surface - cheaper - and I know it's shipped from Europe
[05:33] <newbie2> Java 3d desktop
[05:33] <Gobbla_> i would say 4-8 wks if you're lucky
[05:34] <newbie2> sun i am sorry sun
[05:34] <Gobbla_> isn't shipit factory located in holland?
[05:34] <CarlFK> brist0w: I find the basic Ubuntu is usable on a P2-333, 128mb.  96mb is way slower, 256mb is a little faster
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> brist0w: (re: Madpilot) Netherlands, specifically.
[05:35] <newbie2> if you have some good hardware it is http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/
[05:35] <brist0w> i haven't played with linux in about 2 or 3 years. last i checked, there were big differences in filesystem organization and package management between the redhat-ish and debian-ish distros. what heritage does ubuntu claim?
[05:35] <CarlFK> brist0w: and what you are used to will make a huge difference.  my P2 box seems much slower now that I also have a P4 1.7g
[05:35] <brist0w> Carl: :)
[05:35] <CarlFK> brist0w: Ubuntu is based on Debian
[05:35] <Madpilot> brist0w: Ubuntu is Debian
[05:35] <GigaClon> britst0w, debian
[05:36] <YAFU> :s
[05:36] <brist0w> debian still around, or is that what it has become?
[05:36] <Gobbla_> its a fork
[05:36] <newbie2> still around
[05:36] <Madpilot> brist0w: Debian is still Debian - Ubuntu is a fork (or a spoon, to some people) ;)
[05:37] <n0odl3> ?
[05:37] <n0odl3> strangness
[05:37] <brist0w> ok. will have to dredge up what i remember. never really played with debian, as such. used it "by proxy" through the corel distro
[05:37] <billyoc> Lazy Debian
[05:37] <newbie2> take care all
[05:37] <n0odl3> i heard that people are already using dapper drake
[05:37] <n0odl3> is this true?
[05:38] <mustard5> n0odl3, at their own peril yest
[05:38] <Madpilot> the "spoon" joke is explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[05:38] <brist0w> is ubuntu evolving rapidly? or is mostly mature already?
[05:38] <GigaClon> both
[05:38] <Gobbla_> has it something to do with the matrix?
[05:38] <Gobbla_> :)
[05:39] <mustard5> n0odl3, I would imagine it would be very unstable from day to day :)
[05:40] <Gobbla_> Madpilot: i dont see it explained anywhere..
[05:40] <_native_> i hate bug #1
[05:41] <_native_> :-)
[05:41] <Madpilot> Gobbla_: hmm, thought it was there...
[05:41] <brist0w> Quoted: Is Ubuntu a Debian fork? Or spoon? What sort of silverware are you, man?
[05:41] <brist0w> Yes, Ubuntu is a fork. No, it isn't. Yes it is! Oh, whatever.
[05:41] <_native_> who cares it rocks!
[05:42] <brist0w> that should allow a fruitful search ...
[05:42] <bobbyd> hi, I have this error when I try to remove freenx, I accidently deleted some of it's files: dpkg: error processing freenx (--configure). how can i fix that?
[05:43] <bobbyd> that was my other client that quit btw, I'mstill here :)
[05:44] <mustard5> bobbyd, reinstall and uninstall propely this time?
[05:44] <bobbyd> mustard5, how do I reinstall?
[05:44] <bobbyd> mustard5, I can't get apt-get to force it to do it
[05:44] <mustard5> bobbyd, I don't know then
[05:46] <farruinn> do programs with debuggins symbols run slower? (/me trying to figure out why they don't come with symbols included by default)
[05:46] <rixth> Quick non-Ubuntu question, I'm working for a client who has a FreeBSD 5.4 server, what is the package manager for it?
[05:46] <_native_> bobbyd, it wont reinstall
[05:47] <farruinn> freebsd use the ports system?
[05:47] <_native_> ?
[05:48] <propagandhi> farruinn: you should try #freebsd
[05:48] <Lord_Maynoth> Will Dapper automatically configure and mount your windows partitions without having to download and run a script (like in breezy)???
[05:48] <rixth> Thanks!
[05:48] <kevman> w00t.
[05:48] <farruinn> propagandhi: actually it was rixth that was asking :)
[05:48] <Agrajag> farruinn: yes, they do run slower, and take up more memory and disk space
[05:48] <propagandhi> farruinn: yes, sorry
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> I managed to mess up gnome-app-install, and reinstalling didn't fix it.  I've asked about this earlier to no avail, so let me know if you think you can be of help.
[05:48] <farruinn> propagandhi: no problem :)
[05:48] <_native_> w00t?
[05:48] <_native_> ;-] 
[05:49] <kevman> My roommate just chucked a printer out the window
[05:49] <_native_> lol
[05:49] <Lord_Maynoth> lol
[05:49] <farruinn> kevman: what floor?
[05:49] <propagandhi> kevman: you should chuck your roomate out the window too
[05:49] <CaNsA> ok ive followed the guide but my fekin modem still wont work
[05:50] <propagandhi> kevman: and tell him to get anger management therapy
[05:50] <kevman> farruinn, third.
[05:50] <farruinn> kevman: sweet :)
[05:50] <kevman> propagandhi, nah, he just did it for fun. It was in the trash
[05:50] <_native_> kevman, where u at?
[05:50] <propagandhi> kevman: ok, in that case...
[05:50] <_native_> location
[05:50] <kevman> _native_, school
[05:51] <_native_> country?
[05:51] <kevman> USA
[05:51] <_native_> woohoo!
[05:51] <_native_> me too
[05:51] <kevman> PA
[05:51] <_native_> just to let ya know DOWN WITH BUSH!
[05:52] <_native_> :-0
[05:52] <_native_> :-/
[05:52] <_native_> sorry bout the yell
[05:54] <_native_> i heard a cricket fart.
[05:54] <_native_> chirp..chrip...
[05:54] <mustard5> CaNsA, what type of modem?
[05:55] <CaNsA> speedtouch 330 usb
[05:55] <mustard5> CaNsA, ah ok usb modem...I've seen a few people have trouble with them
[05:55] <mustard5> CaNsA, is that an adsl modem?
[05:55] <CaNsA> i think i 4got to do 1 thing
[05:55] <CaNsA> yeah adsl
[05:55] <CaNsA> 1 sec
[05:55] <mustard5> k
[05:56] <mustard5> CaNsA, I'm not sure how to fix it though....I might search around the wiki and forums to see what is around
[05:57] <agt> Is there a way to test if my fstab works without rebooting :/ ?
[05:58] <mustard5> agt, yes
[05:58] <_native_> you can try to remount but that is not for sure.
[05:58] <kevman> agt, mount mountpoint
[05:58] <farruinn> agt: test as in see if a partitions is mounted automatically when you start?
[05:58] <agt> farruinn,  yes
[05:58] <farruinn> agt: 'sudo shutdown -F now' then ctrl-d (or something like that) will allow you to boot up faster
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone know how to create a device?  (I'm still trying to get configure-thinkpad to work.)
[05:59] <farruinn> hm, that's not explained well, but shutdown -F now will be faster than doing reboot from the logout dialog
[05:59] <CaNsA> mustard5, ill brb im gonna seee if this modem works on the ubuntu machine
[06:00] <agt> farruinn, i understand :) thx all
[06:00] <_native_> tonyyarusso, im not sure about this but you could read the  manual for MKDEV.
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> _native_: I'll check that.  There are supposedly tools that do it, but they're not working.
[06:01] <_native_> *manual for MAKEDEV.
[06:01] <mustard5> doh..I just found the speedtouch threads in the forum tooo
[06:01] <_native_> ive never had to create a device in ubuntu though
[06:01] <_native_> only slackware
[06:02] <_native_> tonyyarusso, read man hotplug, man udev, and the see also stuff.
[06:02] <_native_> as well
[06:02] <Calren> Hi all, I'm new to linux. Could someone walk me through setting up a wireless card using the realtek 8180 chipset? The forums are a bit overwhelming
[06:03] <_native_> gosh if people would just by linux friendly hardware. :-)  j k
[06:04] <_native_> i wish vendors would get with the program
[06:04] <Calren> hey, I got the card free with the laptop, free = good :P
[06:05] <cdubya> I had enabled dma on the cd/dvd combo drive on this laptop last night, but it apparently wasn't a permanent solution as a restart brought the system back to choppy dvd playback. How do I set this up so that every time I boot the cd/dvd will have dma enabled so that the dvd's will play right?
[06:05] <_native_> i was just playin
[06:05] <tritium> _native_, this is not a political forum
[06:06] <mkyb14> after installing the legacy drivers for my old riva tnt 16mb card the nvidia screen spashes.... but my resolution settings won't change from 640x480.... it used to before i upgraded to breezy.  anyone have a solution?
[06:06] <_native_> tritium, little late are we.
[06:06] <tritium> _native_, doesn't matter
[06:06] <mustard5> cdubya, what method did you use to enable DMA the first time?
[06:06] <cdubya> hdparm, but I don't exactly remember the two commands......
[06:06] <pepsi_> mkyb14, did you do `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`?
[06:07] <mustard5> Calren, you seen the wiki guides (as opposed to the forum guides)?
[06:07] <mkyb14> negative, never had to do that before... is that the command?
[06:07] <mustard5> cdubya, k..one second, I will find something for you
[06:07] <cdubya> mustard5, cool, thanks
[06:07] <Calren> not yet, have spent the last hour trying to make sense from the forums. right now I don't even know exactly which vendor this card is from
[06:07] <mustard5> cdubya, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[06:08] <cdubya> pepsi_, I thought for some reason that I read that method breaks stuff with x.org.....but I may be off my rocker....
[06:08] <cdubya> :)
[06:08] <mustard5> cdubya, in this guide you edit a file somewhere, I assume that makes it permanent
[06:08] <mkyb14> ahh i don't want to break it again...
[06:08] <pepsi_> cdubya, ?!
[06:08] <pepsi_> thast hwo ive always done it in ubuntu
[06:08] <cdubya> err, maybe I'm confused.
[06:08] <pepsi_> works fine
[06:08] <pepsi_> screw editing the file :P
[06:08] <cdubya> maybe I'm thinking of manually editing the file....:-P
[06:08] <pepsi_> it makes it for you
[06:08] <cdubya> heh
[06:09] <mustard5> ubotu:tell Calren about wifi
[06:09] <cdubya> now that I think about it, you're right....
[06:09] <Nihil> bjv, i'm here
[06:09] <n0odl3> i just made a file and im trying to run it using ./*filename
[06:09] <n0odl3> however there are several option such as -h
[06:09] <n0odl3> how do i run those options?
[06:09] <mkyb14> oh.... ok with the xorg thing... the card is made by nvidia, but is a  riva tnt
[06:09] <bjv> Nihil: alright, well i guess do a    fsck -N /dev/hdb1
[06:10] <Nihil> ok, i will do it in a second
[06:10] <bjv> Nihil: it will say something like:
[06:10] <bjv> fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[06:10] <bjv> [/sbin/fsck.vfat (1) -- /mnt/data]  fsck.vfat -f /dev/hda5
[06:10] <mustard5> Calren, ah ok..that might be something you need to know
[06:10] <amonkey> how can i restrict access to a particular domain? i told the domain to resolve to 127.0.0.1 in hosts, but that didn't seem to do anything.
[06:11] <Nihil> nihil@Olidata:~$ fsck -N /dev/hdb1
[06:11] <Nihil> fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[06:11] <Nihil> fsck: fsck.ntfs: non trovato
[06:11] <Nihil> fsck: Errore 2 eseguendo fsck. ntfs per /dev/hdb1
[06:11] <Nihil> nihil@Olidata:~$
[06:11] <tritium> Nihil, please don't paste
[06:11] <Nihil> tritium, excuse me
[06:11] <bjv> tritium: sorry
[06:11] <mustard5> Calren, did you get the PM from ubotu about wifi?
[06:11] <Calren> yep, reading it now
[06:11] <rellik> is there any reason to update my old ubuntu to the new version?
[06:11] <bjv> Nihil: ok, so it said error 2
[06:11] <CaNsA> mustard5... dude what does this mean --- usb 1-2: no stage 1 firmware found!
[06:11] <farruinn> anyone know why my iPod would stop automatically mounting when I plug it in?
[06:11] <bjv> Nihil: man fsck    to see what that means. :|
[06:11] <tritium> bjv, no problem, thanks for helping people out
[06:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> DOES anyone know of any linux tools that will allow me to use google like a file system without having to email the file to myself?
[06:11] <kleaer> anyone?
[06:12] <rellik> how do I delete a file that begins with the chars "-1" ?
[06:12] <bjv> tritium: fsck error 2's mean "system should be rebooted?"
[06:12] <nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: ask uncle google about gmailfs
[06:12] <farruinn> rellik: rm \-1etc maybe
[06:12] <_native_> ignorance is bliss, and murder.
[06:12] <rellik> farruinn, nope :(
[06:12] <tritium> bjv, I don't know for sure.  best to check
[06:13] <mustard5> CaNsA, I am only guessing but I think it means you need your firmware updated....I don't use wifi though..so take that with a grain of salt :)
[06:13] <wangjinyu> hao duo ren a
[06:13] <CaNsA> i dont use wifi
[06:13] <bjv> tritium: well that's what the man page says.       im just trying to understand what that means.
[06:13] <mustard5> CaNsA, woops wrong person
[06:13] <wangjinyu> 
[06:13] <CaNsA> lol
[06:13] <mustard5> CaNsA, sorry I thought you were Calren
[06:13] <tritium> bjv, I'll check the manpage
[06:13] <_native_> swee
[06:13] <_native_> *sweet
[06:13] <CaNsA> for the right price i can be
[06:14] <mustard5> CaNsA, haha
[06:14] <Nihil> i didn't found anything about error 2, bjv
[06:14] <daaku> anyone got tips on running a diagnostics on a new system to make sure everything is working right?
[06:14] <mustard5> ok CaNsA I have found a number of threads in the forum discussing speedtouch usb modems
[06:14] <CaNsA> u wanna pm the to me
[06:14] <_native_> daaku, use it thats the best test.
[06:14] <_native_> ;-] 
[06:14] <CaNsA> save spamming the channel
[06:14] <tritium> bjv, yes, you're right
[06:14] <mustard5> CaNsA, I could realy them to you, but might be easier for you to run the search function and browse through them yourself
[06:15] <CaNsA> jammin
[06:15] <kleaer> i recently downloaded ubuntu and the files are on a different partition.. is it possible to boot from that partition to install ubuntu onto a linux partition? i dont have a cd burner
[06:15] <bjv> tritium: yes but what does that mean for Nihil?
[06:15] <CaNsA> u got an url?
[06:15] <amonkey> how can i get hosts to override ns lookups?
[06:15] <bjv> tritium: the drive in question was hooked to a USB enclosure, got an error, and was unplugged.
[06:15] <CaNsA> im currently looking at http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php%3Fpid%3D43338&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522usb%2B1-2:%2Bno%2Bstage%2B1%2Bfirmware%2Bfound!%2522%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DKvD%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official_s%26sa%3DG
[06:15] <Calren> mustard5: well, since it says no wireless extensions on both devices, I'm following the ndiswrapper how-to like the wifi page says to
[06:15] <daaku> _native_: good one. just wanna make sure i return whatever i have to before the return period expires :)
[06:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> holy cow.
[06:15] <mustard5> CaNsA, this is one thread...but there is a HOW TO for hoary..but I think in breezy you need to change stuff http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76529&highlight=usb+modem+speedtouch
[06:15] <tritium> bjv, sorry, I've not followed your conversation
[06:16] <bjv> tritium: yeah.
[06:16] <CaNsA> cheers matey
[06:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> gmailfs will act as a filesystem that i can mount in linux?
[06:16] <mustard5> Calren, thats sounds like the right direction
[06:16] <wangjinyu> where are you from
[06:16] <mustard5> CaNsA, I used these keywords for search 'usb modem speedtouch' it gets good results
[06:16] <_native_> daaku, what hardware are you worried about?
[06:16] <kleaer> anyone?
[06:17] <wangjinyu> displaycard
[06:17] <bjv> Nihil: a   sudo fsck /dev/hdb1      would probably fix your drive.
[06:17] <Nihil> no
[06:17] <daaku> _native_: all of it - just built it
[06:17] <Nihil> error not fixed
[06:17] <n0odl3> does the option hafve to be piped?>
[06:17] <bjv> Nihil: you did it without the -N ?
[06:17] <mustard5> Nihil, is /dev/hdb1 unmounted?
[06:18] <kleaer> i recently downloaded ubuntu and the files are on a different partition.. is it possible to boot from that partition to install ubuntu onto a linux partition? i dont have a cd burner
[06:18] <Nihil> can anyone kick my ghost nick Nihil85?
[06:18] <bobbyd> _native_, not from the command line...
[06:18] <bjv> mustard5: lol, is that what it means by "2 - System should be rebooted" ?
[06:18] <mustard5> Nihil, I"m late to this conversation so ignore me if I am going over old ground
[06:18] <mkyb14> sweet thanks PEPSI for the help
[06:18] <cdubya> mustard5, thanks for the link. Setup /etc/hdparm.conf, rebooted, and it worked wonderfully. Thanks.
[06:18] <Madpilot> Nihil: you can ghost yourself...
[06:18] <daaku> anyone know about performance tuning a fakeRAID system?
[06:19] <_native_> daaku, huh what?
[06:19] <mustard5> bjv, I'm pretty sure you need to unmount the drive for fsck to fix it..so a live CD would be useful
[06:19] <Nihil> Madpilot, how ca i do this?
[06:19] <mustard5> cdubya, np ;)
[06:19] <daaku> _native_: didnt come up with the name :p
[06:19] <bjv> mustard5: yeah. he is working off a 2nd drive.
[06:19] <_native_> daaku, did i miss somthing
[06:19] <Nihil> mustard5, it's a matter of broken HD, maybe
[06:19] <rellik> what program do you use to view images?
[06:19] <Nihil> bjv, i didn't use the -N
[06:19] <daaku> _native_: its RAID using dmraid, the cheap raid on the newer mb's
[06:19] <mustard5> bjv, ah ok..well just confirm its umounted then I suppose
[06:20] <farruinn> if anyone can help me mount my iPod so I can reproduce this crash I would be grateful
[06:20] <mustard5> Nihil, hopefully not :)
[06:20] <daaku> _native_: the howto on the wiki calls it that
[06:20] <Madpilot> Nihil: /msg nickserv help
[06:20] <bjv> Nihil: yeah, he thinks that the error 2 is trying to tell you to unmount the partition.
[06:20] <mustard5> farruinn, I have no idea about ipods unfortunately :)
[06:20] <bjv> Nihil: and i suppose i didnt actually tell you to umount it before fsck. :P
[06:21] <_native_> daaku, check out bonnie.
[06:21] <farruinn> mustard5: it used to just mount automagically, don't know why it's not now
[06:21] <mustard5> farruinn, how do they connect? usb?
[06:21] <farruinn> mustard5: this one is firewire
[06:22] <farruinn> I'm not sure what really goes on when it connects because there's no fstab entry or anything
[06:22] <kleaer> i recently downloaded ubuntu and the files are on a different partition.. is it possible to boot from that partition to install ubuntu onto a linux partition? i dont have a cd burner
[06:22] <_native_> daaku, i dont know i just run my systems hard and long, and if they dont crash its good or me.
[06:22] <Nihil> bjv, what should i do now?
[06:22] <mustard5> farruinn, yeah..I have no idea how they work soz :)
[06:22] <mustard5> Nihil I would unmount and run fsck again
[06:23] <Nihil> unmount?
[06:23] <Nihil> why?
[06:23] <farruinn> you can't fsck a mounted partitoin
[06:23] <mustard5> Nihil because you can't fsck a mounted partition
[06:24] <mustard5> Nihil, therefore it would seem the appropriate action is to umount the drive and then direct fsck to check that drive
[06:25] <Nihil85> but i mounted it a moment ago
[06:25] <Nihil85> it was inside in a HD box, mustard5
[06:25] <mustard5> Nihil85, so your problem is fixed now?
[06:25] <drummer> Anyone know of a way to find out what version of gcc was used to compile the Ubuntu kernel?
[06:25] <Nihil85> nomed, it's not fixed
[06:25] <mustard5> Nihil85, I'm not talking about taking it out of the box
[06:25] <Nihil85> bjv, are you here?
[06:26] <Agrajag> drummer: cat /proc/version
[06:26] <Agrajag> (gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8))
[06:26] <drummer> Agrajag: thanks !
[06:26] <Agrajag> drummer: if you install gcc-3.4 you'll have that same version
[06:26] <theine> Wow, I just noticed that xfwm4 works extremely well as a replacement for metacity
[06:27] <Nihil85> bjv, are you here?
[06:27] <Agrajag> you'll have to set $CC to point to the right gcc version to build modules and so on
[06:27] <bjv> Nihil85: yeah, just hit it with a   sudo umount -l /dev/hdb1   or whatever
[06:27] <iceman> so, have they started work on the next release of ubuntu...
[06:27] <bjv> Nihil85: and once it is unmounted       sudo fsck /dev/hdb1
[06:28] <tritium> iceman, http://fridge.ubuntu.com
[06:28] <bjv> Nihil85: do it with  -N   the 1st time though
[06:28] <Nihil85> jbv, i'm in private
[06:29] <bjv> gottcha.
[06:29] <Nihil85> jbv, i'm in private with you!
[06:30] <drummer> Agrajag:  I've been having a problem installing VMWare.  Keeps telling me that there is a compiler mismatch.
[06:30] <nauseaboy> has anyone been playing much with enlightenment?
[06:30] <Calren> mustard5: no matter how I try it, typing the same case or all lower/upper, I keep getting "cp: cannot stat '/home/calren/wifi/NET8180.INF': No such file or directory
[06:31] <Agrajag> drummer: that's what I did, installed gcc-3.4 and changed $CC to point to /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[06:31] <mustard5> Calren, and the file does exist in that directory?
[06:31] <Agrajag> oh, you'll need the kernel headers package too
[06:31] <drummer> Agrajag: the cat /proc/version > 3.3.5 but synaptic shows only 3.3, 3.4 and 4
[06:31] <daaku> ok, made a stupid mistake. how do i go to single user mode in grub (guess it doesnt work like lilo)
[06:31] <Calren> mustard5:: yes, but it's Home and Calren, could the directory case be doing it?
[06:31] <Agrajag> just get 3.4, it'll work, I install vmware 5 just last week
[06:31] <Agrajag> installed
[06:31] <drummer> Agrajag: ok I'll install 3.4 and set CC to that before I run the install.
[06:32] <Agrajag> that should do it
[06:32] <rellik> is there any way to browse a SMB network if you don't know the names of any SMB servers on that network?
[06:32] <tritium> daaku, you should have a recovery mode listed
[06:32] <drummer> Agrajag: thanks again.
[06:32] <Agrajag> no problem
[06:33] <daaku> tritium: figured out how to edit the kernel options
[06:33] <rellik> that is, a text-based SMB network browser..  don't think smbclient can browse if not given the name of a server
[06:33] <tritium> daaku, okay, but by default you also should have recovery mode choices in your menu
[06:33] <mustard5> Calren, it is case sensitive yes
[06:33] <heero1711> Hello, everybody
[06:33] <rellik> nm..  smbtree does it
[06:33] <daaku> tritium: yea, saw that, wasnt sure if that would work
[06:34] <Calren> mustard5:: okay, / before home or no?
[06:34] <daaku> tritium: what does that do exactly? same thing - single user mode?
[06:34] <tritium> daaku, yes, it is single user mode
[06:34] <mustard5> Calren, have you used the autocomplete feature with <TAB> key before?
[06:34] <Calren> nope
[06:34] <heero1711> :S my Keyboard dont works in X, .. any idea, i had update it, from Hoary to Breezy
[06:34] <daaku> tritium: cool
[06:34] <heero1711> Maybe i need change something in xorg.conf ?
[06:34] <Calren> all typing for an hour, haha
[06:35] <mustard5> Calren, type cd /h<then hit TAB key>
[06:35] <mshade> heero1711: if the Driver line has "keyboard" change it to "kbd"
[06:35] <heero1711> oh, thanks i will look, that. =)
[06:35] <mustard5> Calren, if you hit <TAB> twice it will list all available options
[06:35] <mshade> heero1711: but normally X will error out if that's the case, rather than starting up without keyboard support
[06:35] <Calren> mustard5:: root@fenrir:/home#
[06:36] <mustard5> Calren, I may be explaining this badly :)
[06:36] <heero1711> mm i have another question, why xorgconfig not are in /usr/X11R6/bin ? .. is normal ?
[06:36] <Calren> mustard5:: that's fine, you're at least trying :)
[06:37] <mshade> heero1711: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[06:37] <mustard5> lets check it one step at a time, Calre
[06:37] <mustard5> cd /home/
[06:38] <mustard5> Calren, cd /home/   then cd /Calren/ mabye
[06:38] <Calren> no such file/dir, yet I can look at file broswer and see it
[06:38] <heero1711> xD thanks, let me try .. i will back
[06:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> how does one set the user and group of a mount?
[06:38] <mshade> mustard5: leave off the leading / on Calren/
[06:38] <mshade> cd /home/Calren should work
[06:39] <mustard5> Calren, what mshade said :)
[06:39] <mshade> if /home/Calren exists...
[06:39] <mustard5> cd /home/Calren/wifi/ is our goal mshade :)
[06:39] <Calren> using cd calren/ has now placed me with this: root@fenrir:~#
[06:39] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about Enterprise Volume Management Services? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with it?
[06:39] <mustard5> mshade he has an inf file in there for his ndiswrapper mshade
[06:40] <mshade> Calren: pwd shoudl now return "/home/calren/'
[06:40] <GURT> how do i remove Gnome themes that i've installed via the theme prefrences?
[06:40] <mshade> Calren: pwd will always return your 'present working directory'
[06:40] <Calren> mshade:: yep, so far so good
[06:40] <mshade> Calren: now 'ls' will show you the contents of your 'pwd'
[06:40] <mustard5> Calren, you can always type ls to confirm what the directory names inside are
[06:41] <mustard5> mshade, your mind seems to be working with more clarity than mine atm :)
[06:41] <Calren> ls returns Calren and Desktop
[06:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> has anyone here gotten gmailfs to work?
[06:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> im' getting a login failure
[06:41] <Calren> weird since I should be in Calren
[06:41] <mshade> Calren: you probably inadverantly created another directory named calren
[06:41] <mshade> Calren: so now you've got /home/calren/Calren
[06:42] <mshade> Calren: try 'cd Calren/wifi
[06:42] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, did you already build the fuse modules?
[06:42] <Calren> mshade:: probably
[06:42] <dooglus> bur[n] er: yesterday you asked "Anyone know of an 'eyedropper' tool for gnome that will give me Hex & RGB of any pixel on my screen?".  I found an answer: "grabc is simple but useful program to determine the colour string in hex (or in RGB components) by clicking on a pixel on the screen"
[06:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium fuse modules?
[06:42] <nalioth> tritium fuse modules? is there a timer with that?
[06:42] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, read the output of "apt-cache show gmailfs"
[06:42] <nemik> hello is there any way from a shell to make a pop-u window message to a box i connected to via SSH?
[06:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> didn't see anything about that in the readme
[06:42] <tritium> nalioth, yep :)
[06:42] <Calren> mshade and mustard5:: woot, home/calren/Calren/wifi :D
[06:43] <mshade> bingo
[06:43] <mustard5> Calren, ok your off and running again ;)
[06:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> fuse-utils is already the newest version.
[06:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> that?
[06:43] <dooglus> nemik: can you connect to the X server on the remote machine?
[06:43] <fatehaze> Hi guys
[06:43] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, nope
[06:43] <Calren> mustard5:: out the INF is installed right now :D
[06:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> what am i looking for?
[06:44] <mshade> Calren: what wifi card is it, by the way
[06:44] <nemik> dooglus, not sure, i just SSH'd into it. i'm doing it from Putty on a....sigh....XP box
[06:44] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, read the output of "apt-cache show gmailfs"
[06:44] <fatehaze> I'm thinking of installing Ubuntu for the first time on an old Mac iBook g3 clamshell
[06:44] <fatehaze> What kind of hardware support can I expect?
[06:44] <fatehaze> Specifically, network-wise?
[06:44] <dooglus> nemik: what happens if you "DISPLAY=:0 xclock" for example?
[06:44] <Calren> mshade:: not a clue which exactly, but it apepars to be running the RealTek 8180 chipset, since that's what it wanted under windows
[06:45] <nemik> dooglus, just put that in bash? ok i'll try...
[06:45] <bjv> wtf, this guy i was helping cant fsck his machine.
[06:45] <bjv> his sudo suddenly stopped working.
[06:45] <Calren> mshade:: device manger lists it as "RTL8180L 802.11b MAC"
[06:45] <dooglus> nemik: copy it exactly, yes
[06:45] <mshade> Calren: try lspci |grep -i eth
[06:45] <mshade> Calren: or lspci|grep -i net
[06:45] <mshade> should output what ya got
[06:45] <dooglus> nemik: it should show a clock on the remote display if you're lucky
[06:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium what am i looking for?
[06:45] <nemik> dooglus, Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:45] <nemik> so i guess not
[06:46] <bjv>    anyone familiar with this sudo error?
[06:46] <bjv> nihil@Olidata:~$ sudo fsck.vfat /dev/hdb1
[06:46] <bjv> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov  4 07:35:48 2005
[06:46] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, you need to build kernel modules, as the info tells you
[06:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> i built it.
[06:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> just now
[06:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> now what? depmod -a?
[06:46] <Calren> mshade:: ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconduction Co., Ltd. RTL8180L 802.11b MAC (rev20)
[06:47] <mustard5> bjv, the date of the files does not match the date of the system clock I imagine...have you changed the system clock time or was it set wrong at some stage?
[06:47] <mshade> Calren: thereya go :)
[06:47] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, read the docs in /usr/share/doc/fuse-source.  I've not used it
[06:47] <dooglus> nemik: right.  you'll have to ask the remote X server to let you connect then.
[06:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium FATAL: Error inserting fuse (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686-smp/kernel/fs/fuse/fuse.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium i mean generically when building a new module.
[06:47] <bjv> mustard5: i dont think Nihil85 changed the clock while i was helping him..
[06:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> what is the command to avaid rebooting?  i thought it was sudo depmod -a
[06:47] <fatehaze> Is installing linux on a Mac even a common thing?
[06:47] <Nihil85> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov  4 07:35:48 2005
[06:48] <mustard5> bjv, I think it occurs when the file is dated as being in the future or something
[06:48] <tritium> fatehaze, yes, it is
[06:48] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, right
[06:48] <fatehaze> Common enough that I can expect decent hardware support?
[06:48] <tritium> yes
[06:48] <nemik> dooglus, how would i do that? nm, i gotta learn. i'll read a bit about it; anything in particular i should see?
[06:48] <bjv> mustard5: so how does Nihil85 get his files back into the present?
[06:48] <daaku> ok, not sure what to make of this: sensors has 2 alarms: for -12V (@-2.69) & -5V (@-2.49) - how bad is this?
[06:48] <Calren> mshade:: iwconfig still doesn't show a wlan
[06:48] <fatehaze> I'm mainly worried about the airport and display
[06:48] <mshade> Calren: ndiswrapper -l
[06:48] <mustard5> bjv I think you can 'touch' them somehow..I don't know how :)
[06:48] <mshade> Calren: does it say driver and hardware present?
[06:49] <Calren> yep
[06:49] <mustard5> bjv read manual for touch maybe?  man touch
[06:49] <mshade> Calren: modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:49] <Madpilot> daaku: it could mean that your PSU is screwing up, and sending the wrong voltages to your hardware - which would be very bad for that hardware...
[06:49] <mshade> if you haven't already
[06:49] <daaku> fatehaze: i've got breezy on my powerbook, and other than the wireless, everything (*everything*) works perfect
[06:49] <bird> can anyone help me with xfire for gaim???
[06:49] <Calren> mshade:: done
[06:50] <fatehaze> Really?  Wireless, though... I really need my wireless
[06:50] <benplaut> bird: what's xfire?
[06:50] <mshade> Calren: iwconfig
[06:50] <Calren> mshade:: there it is! :D
[06:50] <happyIRC>   <IRC>  
[06:50] <bird> benplaut its a protacal and i need help with the plugin
[06:51] <bird> benplaut it says there is a plugin folder for gaim but i cant find it
[06:51] <bird> it says there is a plugin folder for gaim but i cant find it
[06:51] <bird> can anyone help me with xfire for gaim???
[06:51] <daaku> Madpilot: ah, not good. any ideas if could it be a issue with how i set it up? or hardware defect?
[06:51] <Calren> mshade:: now moving on to connecting to my wlan, which is encrypted. Thanks for you help so far, yours as well mustard5
[06:52] <mustard5> Calren, np :)
[06:52] <mshade> Calren: you have the key handy?
[06:52] <daaku> fatehaze: no support, gotta bug broadcom for that. iirc, some project on sf is trying to reverse engineer the chipset
[06:52] <mshade> Calren: are you in X on ubuntu?
[06:52] <Calren> mshade:: off the top of my head, yes
[06:52] <Calren> mshade:: what's X?
[06:52] <fatehaze> Curses
[06:53] <daaku> fatehaze: but considering that keyboard backlights, automatic brightness control, suspend and everything else works, i'm not complaining
[06:53] <mshade> Calren: i just meant, are you using the graphical system (gnome) on ubuntu right now
[06:53] <fatehaze> True, and neither would I, but I work night audit in a hotel with only wireless :P
[06:53] <Madpilot> daaku: I'm not sure what it means - ask around some of the hardware/modding sites, maybe?
[06:53] <Calren> mshade:: seeing as I have icons and whatnot ont he top, I'm going to say gnome with a terminal
[06:53] <mshade> Calren: at the top.. go to System > administration > networking
[06:53] <mshade> Calren: choose the wireless device (which should now show up), and you can set your encryption settings there
[06:53] <Calren> desire21
[06:54] <Calren> crap, haha
[06:54] <cge> fatehaze: I have a white Ibook 600Mhz and the wireless works.
[06:54] <Calren> maybe having the lap and this baord on the same table is bad? :D
[06:54] <fatehaze> Oh really?
[06:54] <daaku> Madpilot: will do. thanks
[06:54] <heero1711> :S
[06:55] <mshade> Calren: heh i've done that before
[06:55] <cge> fatehaze: yes - it was working in hoary, if I recall correctly.
[06:55] <daaku> fatehaze: yup. linux hw support has come a long way :)
[06:55] <fatehaze> Fabulous :D
[06:55] <heero1711> dont works my keyboard, only some keys, i has try with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and nothing :(
[06:55] <fatehaze> Linux is the best reason to have old-ass hardware
[06:55] <heero1711> any idea?
[06:55] <cge> fatehaze: Some things didn't work quite right - iwlist scan didn't work.
[06:55] <Calren> mshade:: okay, in the properties, got the ESS entered and putting in wep
[06:56] <fatehaze> Well, the live cd just finished, I'm gonna give it a shot
[06:56] <fatehaze> Thanks for the help guys!
[06:56] <cge> fatehaze: Ok
[06:56] <Calren> mshade:: if I got it right, how long should it take to active the interface?
[06:57] <heero1711> :S
[06:57] <mshade> Calren: really shouldn't take too long, but iv'e seen it take a little while.
[06:57] <bird> it says there is a plugin folder for gaim but i cant find it
[06:57] <bird> can anyone help me with xfire for gaim???
[06:57] <Calren> mshade:: "The interface wlan0 is active"
[06:57] <mshade> Calren: ping www.google.com
[06:57] <mshade> Calren: from your terminal
[06:58] <i3dmaster> I installed a new sound card, but can get it to work. help
[06:58] <mustard5> Calren, thats a literal command too  'ping www.google.com'
[06:58] <Calren> mshade:: unknown host
[06:58] <mshade> Calren: no dice :|
[06:58] <mshade> Calren: iwconfig should show the key you entered, check it again
[06:58] <mustard5> mshade, dns issue?
[06:59] <mshade> Calren: does ifconfig show an ip for wlan0?
[06:59] <mshade> mustard5: if he has an IP address dynamically assigned to him then yes, it's probably a dns issue.  if no IP is assigned, probably still a driver issue.
[06:59] <Calren> mshade:: k, something's not right, there 20 digits in the key area, and no
[06:59] <mustard5> mshade, I'm trying to take all this in for the future :)
[06:59] <mshade> Calren: you need the actual hex key taken from the router
[07:00] <mshade> Calren: a passphrase doesn't work yet, i don't think, with ndiswrapper
[07:00] <Calren> I'm looking at the wireless security tab for my Linksys router
[07:00] <bjv> ha! nihil85 has a problem..
[07:01] <bjv> "nihil@Olidata:~$ touch /usr/bin/sudo
[07:01] <bjv> touch: cannot touch `/usr/bin/sudo': Permission denied"
[07:01] <bjv> "nihil@Olidata:~$ sudo touch /usr/bin/sudo
[07:01] <bjv> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov  4 07:35:48 2005"          :P
[07:01] <mshade> Calren: when you put in the key, did you use hex or the passphrase?
[07:01] <wickedpuppy> bjv, why you need to touch sudo ?
[07:01] <mustard5> bjv..hehe circular :)
[07:01] <wickedpuppy> i say its recursive
[07:02] <bjv> Nihil  cant fsck the drive im helping him fix
[07:02] <bjv> the error is "DATE IN TEH FUTZOR"
[07:02] <Calren> mshade:: I entered key 1, however in Ubuntu I left it on ASCII, which I bet was a Very Bad Thing
[07:02] <bjv> i guess he is just going to reboot.
[07:02] <Calren> iwconfig
[07:02] <Calren> err
[07:02] <mshade> Calren: heh
[07:02] <bjv> strange that sudo would suddenly stop working because of a time conflict
[07:02] <bjv> at like 4:00 in the afternoon
[07:03] <heero1711> hello, i has change keyboard for KBD, but my keyboard still dont works, any idea_
[07:03] <heero1711> ? .. only works some keys :S
[07:03] <Calren> mshade:: okay, now the encryption key is right, just weird that is has dashes in it. meh, oh well
[07:03] <Calren> mshade:: ping works tho
[07:03] <mshade> Calren: congrats, you're done.
[07:04] <mustard5> Calren, well done :)
[07:04] <mshade> :)
[07:04] <Calren> woooot!
[07:04] <Nihil85> bjv, i'm in privaste with you
[07:04] <Calren> mshade, mustard5, thank you both very much :D
[07:04] <Calren> mshade:: now how do I stop the pinging?
[07:04] <mshade> Calren: control-c in the terminal
[07:04] <Nihil85> ctrl+c
[07:05] <Nihil85> bjv
[07:06] <mustard5> Calren, you know where to find us when you next have a problem :)
[07:06] <Calren> mshade:: now, while you two are around, anything I can do about this godawful parchment color where white should be? :D
[07:06] <mustard5> Calren, whats that in?
[07:07] <mshade> Calren: poke around in system --- preferences
[07:07] <Calren> mustard5:: as an example, going to www.google.com I'm used to a white background, instead it's parchment, the same color as the menus
[07:07] <mustard5> Calren, ah in firefox?
[07:07] <Calren> mustard5:: yeah
[07:08] <mustard5> Calren, not too sure actually :)  I'm not a very fussy browser user it looks good to me :)
[07:08] <mustard5> Calren, I have heard  a lot of people say they don't like the look of firefox on ubuntu
[07:08] <nuxvomica> mustard5: there's always opera
[07:09] <mustard5> Calren, I guess its in the eye of the behoider :)
[07:09] <Calren> mustard5:: goodies, my fav browser is Teh Ugly :(
[07:09] <Calren> mustard5:: this beholder is going to see how far this whole "customize everything" thing will go :P
[07:09] <mshade> Calren: it has something to do with themes.  unfortunately, i've only been using gnome about a week now.  don't know a thing about how to change an indiviual parameter in this theme 'human'
[07:10] <mustard5> Calren, hehe...well try not to break to much straight away :D
[07:10] <all4n> hey, I have a folder full of images(fullsize, and thumbnails) here, and am trying to convert only the fullsize images ..  I tried using  a 'find -type f ' command, but don't know how to exclude files with the name 'thumb
[07:10] <all4n> ' in the filename.. any suggestions?
[07:11] <Calren> mustard5:: give me a sec guys, going to switch to xchat on the lap
[07:11] <mustard5> Calren I've seen some pretty amazing looking customisations in the forum
[07:11] <mustard5> Calren, k
[07:12] <alekz> hi, how can i control my microphone's volume ?
[07:12] <Calren> mshade, you said you saw some themes on the forums?
[07:12] <mustard5> alekz, double click on the master volume thing top right corner of your screen
[07:12] <mshade> Calren: nah, mustard did
[07:12] <mustard5> alekz, and go to the capture tab
[07:13] <mustard5> Calren, on the ubuntu forums there are lots of customisation threads
[07:13] <mustard5> Calren, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/index.php
[07:13] <cansa_> what tells ubuntu where to look for firmware? and where does it look?
[07:14] <mshade> cansa_: it's in /usr/local/lib/hotplug/firmware
[07:14] <cansa_> ok, and what tells it to lok ther?
[07:14] <cansa_> there*
[07:15] <cansa_> look* ffs too much coffee and not enuff sleep
[07:15] <mustard5> Calren, this one was interesting to me http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694&highlight=gdesklets
[07:15] <mshade> cansa_: /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent tells it to look there
[07:15] <cansa_> ok
[07:15] <Calren> mustard5, k, checking it out, thanks
[07:16] <cansa_> so in theory, if i have edited the firmware.agent to look in /lib/hotplug/firmware for the firmware that i place there
[07:17] <mshade> cansa_: yup, then restart hotplug
[07:17] <cansa_> then the device that ubuntu needs the firmware for should work
[07:17] <coolkev> i look inside firewall firestarter and i see a bunch of active connection to bittorrent, but i've shut down bittorrent long ago, how do i get rid of thse active connection
[07:17] <mshade> cansa_: right.  or use the dir it already uses
[07:17] <alekz> anyone here uses skype ?
[07:17] <alekz> i cant listen or talk with my friends :S
[07:18] <cansa_> see ive done this but it still gives me a  usb 1-2: no stage 1 firmware found! error at me
[07:18] <mustard5> alekz, do you have other sound devices going at the same time?
[07:19] <mustard5> alekz, enter this in terminal ps -e | grep esd    and tell me what it says
[07:19] <alekz> mustard5, amarok and gaim, but i followed a guide to have sounds with all my apps
[07:19] <alekz> wait pls
[07:19] <mustard5> k
[07:19] <alekz> i use ALSA not esd
[07:19] <cansa_> mshade, any ideas?
[07:19] <mustard5> alekz, I don't think skype likes other sound devices
[07:20] <alekz> then i should set esd to use skype ?
[07:20] <mustard5> alekz, if you know how..I wouldnt have a clue :)
[07:21] <mustard5> alekz, for me I just shut down all other stuff when using skype
[07:21] <alekz> ok mustard5 i'll try it :)
[07:21] <alekz> thanks
[07:21] <mustard5> mp
[07:21] <mustard5> np
[07:22] <bobby> how does one set the dns so it doesn't die on reboot...ubuntu keeps losing the setting when I do it through the gui tool
[07:23] <PuGz> hey guys, i have installed fluxbox in breezy and it says foo in the gdm login manager instead of fluxbox, and then if i select foo, it doesnt start. is this a known bug? how do i fix it?
[07:23] <mustard5> you scared everyone off bobby ;)
[07:23] <bobby> yay :)
[07:23] <alekz> mustard5, i found something: Skype's audio device is /dev/dsp <--- is that right ?
[07:24] <PuGz> yes
[07:24] <rellik> bobby: dunno about the gui..  check out /etc/resolv.conf
[07:24] <mustard5> alekz,  I honestly have no clue :)
[07:24] <alekz> ok mustard5 thanks anyway :)
[07:24] <mustard5> alekz,  good luck
[07:24] <PuGz> anyone here use fluxbox?
[07:24] <alekz> ;)
[07:25] <holycow> ftp://ftp.oqo.com/unsupported/linux/  <-- wow
[07:25] <holycow> oqo.com doesn't support linux, but they certainly have debs up there
[07:26] <mustard5> PuGz, the silence is deafening :)
[07:26] <rellik> doesn't unsupported mean their tech support doesn't support it?
[07:26] <holycow> ftp://ftp.oqo.com/unsupported/linux/OQOLinux.html  <-- and of course comlementary html
[07:26] <holycow> rellik, correct
[07:27] <PuGz> mustard5: hehe
[07:27] <PuGz> mustard5: you use fluxbox?
[07:27] <mshade> PuGz: actually, i do.. but not on debian/ubuntu
[07:27] <mustard5> PuGz, nope
[07:27] <PuGz> mshade: cheers anyway
[07:27] <mshade> cheers :)
[07:27] <versatile> alright, I admit it I am complete noob to ubuntu. what is the best channel for questions?
[07:27] <joss> Kawabunga! The traditional KDE Control Center has been replaced with KDE System Settings. This change is not part of KDE, but is unique to Kubuntu. The new interface is cleaner, faster, simpler and comes with improved usability features such as quick search.
[07:28] <bur[n] er> PuGz: it shows up as "fluxbox" here
[07:28] <joss> has anyone tried that?
[07:28] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to use xgbnu?
[07:28] <holycow> http://flipstart.com/aboutproduct_features_sizeandpower.asp  <-- i want this of course when its out
[07:28] <joss> 5.10
[07:28] <mshade> versatile: probably this one :)
[07:28] <mustard5> versatile, you have arrived there:)
[07:28] <mshade> PuGz: did you have a question about flux, or just askin?
[07:28] <PuGz> bur[n] er: what you reckon, uninstall and reinstall
[07:28] <PuGz> mshade: my fluxbox shows up as "foo" in the gdm menu
[07:29] <mshade> :S
[07:29] <mshade> that's weird.
[07:29] <bur[n] er> PuGz: i assume you restarted gdm?
[07:29] <PuGz> yes
[07:29] <PuGz> hang on... it appears it wasnt installed!
[07:29] <PuGz> aptitude is installing it now
[07:29] <bur[n] er> lol
[07:29] <PuGz> what the hell!?
[07:29] <PuGz> i told aptitude to install it 2 days ago!
[07:30] <versatile> well here i go then.  I am trying to change xorg.conf file but it is read only.  I figured I need to log on as root but I don't see how?
[07:30] <bur[n] er> problem solved, crisis averted :)
[07:30] <PuGz> maybe it got half way and stuffed up and hence the foo?
[07:30] <all4n> hey, I have a folder full of images(fullsize, and thumbnails) here, and am trying to convert only the fullsize images ..  I tried using  a 'find -type f ' command, but don't know how to exclude files with the name 'thumb' in the filename..  any suggestions?
[07:30] <PuGz> bur[n] er: yep... cheers anyway
[07:30] <n0odl3> what is bz2?
[07:30] <mshade> bzip2
[07:30] <bur[n] er> bz2 == compressed file
[07:30] <PuGz> n0odl3: like a zip
[07:31] <nuxvomica> anyone has tried looking glass desktop?
[07:31] <mustard5> all4n, you might benefit from studying command line switches
[07:31] <mustard5> all4n, I have no idea myself
[07:31] <PuGz> nuxvomica: not me... looks interesting but too heavy
[07:31] <bur[n] er> says the uber-minimalist ;)
[07:32] <all4n> mustard5, I am studying find and grep, and piping..  but havent found an answer yet
[07:32] <cafuego> all4n: What are the filename masks? Just random?
[07:32] <PuGz> all4n: you want to do a find, but exclude things with thumb in the name?
[07:32] <all4n> cafuego, yeah..  I just want to exclude files that have 'thumb' in the filename
[07:32] <all4n> PuGz, yeah
[07:32] <nuxvomica> PuGz: looks cool. want to impress someone with it..
[07:32] <PuGz> ok
[07:32] <PuGz> let me try and find out
[07:32] <PuGz> i wann know that myself
[07:32] <cafuego> all4n: mkdir thumb; mv *thumb* thumb/; mycommand *; mv thumb/* .; rmdir thumb
[07:33] <all4n> cafuego, not very elegant  :p
[07:33] <wickedpuppy> awk or sed would be better ?
[07:33] <all4n> cafuego, and I am also searching in several subfolders
[07:33] <nuxvomica> all4n: find -name *thumb* (?)
[07:34] <cafuego> all4n: Are you using -exec for processing or piping via xargs?
[07:34] <nuxvomica> all4n: find . -name *thumb* (?)
[07:34] <cafuego> nuxvomica: Yes, those are the files he DOESN'T want.
[07:35] <cafuego> all4n: ?
[07:35] <all4n> okay, I know that I can pipe all the images I want to convert using just this command: 'find -type f | convert -resize blabla'
[07:35] <vbgunz> It it normal to have several of the same processes running/sleeping at once? I have 7 copies of "hald-addon-storage", 6 copies of "getty", 2 copies of "gdm", 3 copies of "usb-storage", and plenty of 2 copies of everything else... No other GDM sessions should be running and I am the only one logged in... Is this an issue? Should I just start killing processes? Is this normal?
[07:35] <versatile> Any tips on gaining root in ubuntu?
[07:35] <cafuego> all4n: Ok, then you can simply insert a "grep -v thumb |"
[07:35] <mshade> versatile: sudo bash
[07:35] <all4n> nuxvomica, that command just seemed to find all files with thumb
[07:35] <bjv> vbgunz: wtf, do you hibernate or something instead of shutting down?
[07:35] <mshade> versatile: sudo passwd root
[07:36] <mshade> versatile: to set a root password you can log into/ su to
[07:36] <vbgunz> bjv I never hibernated at all on this pc...
[07:36] <cafuego> a;SO it would be come 'find -type f | grep -v thumb | convert -resize blabla'
[07:36] <PuGz> all4n: from the grep manual... -v, --invert-match
[07:36] <PuGz>               Invert the sense of matching, to select non-matching lines.
[07:36] <bur[n] er> !tell versatile about sudo
[07:36] <nuxvomica> all4n: ok so *not* thumb... ok sorry
[07:36] <all4n> cafuego, trying now..  thangs  :)
[07:36] <mustard5> vbgunz, I think you will find they are forks from the original process
[07:36] <bjv> vbgunz: getty is normal.     afaik though you shouldnt have 2 gdm
[07:36] <vbgunz> bjv: Could it be when I step away and the PC relaxes overnight, it goes into hibernation? If so, how can I tell?
[07:36] <nuxvomica> all4n: then move all the thumb things to a directory when you find it
[07:37] <nuxvomica> all4n: then the rest are all "non-thumbs"
[07:37] <all4n> cafuego, yeah! that worked!  rocks!  thanks  :)
[07:37] <bjv> vbgunz: no hibernation is writing the current memory to disk and cloning it again and again
[07:37] <benplaut> anyone knwo how to change the name of your computer?
[07:37] <bjv> vbgunz: the PC is dead and cold, and can be unplugged/disassembled
[07:37] <vbgunz> bjv: is there a clean up script for duplicate processes?
[07:37] <mustard5> benplaut, hostname?
[07:37] <all4n> oops, that thanks was supposed to go to PuGZ..
[07:37] <cafuego> all4n: That's still not elegant, though :-)
[07:38] <benplaut> mustard5: "hostname newname"?
[07:38] <n0odl3> PuGz: how do i unzip it?
[07:38] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about Enterprise Volume Management Services? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with it?
[07:38] <bur[n] er> n0odl3: file-roller
[07:38] <mustard5> benplaut, I'm think yes, but don't quote me on that :)
[07:38] <vbgunz> bjv: do you mean, that when the PC hibernates, it creates a clone and starts up with that clone *over* already running processes of the same type?
[07:38] <happyIRC>   <IRC>  
[07:38] <bjv> vbgunz:  clean up script?   sudo kill -9 -1
[07:38] <PuGz> n0odl3: is it a .tar.bz2 ?
[07:38] <topyli> bjv, vbgunz: i do have two gdm processes. gdm spawns another gdm, which then runs gnome-session
[07:38] <n0odl3> PuGz: yes
[07:39] <PuGz> n0odl3: what environment are you in? gnome?
[07:39] <benplaut> i mean as in the breezy@ben:~$
[07:39] <benplaut> , change the ben part
[07:39] <n0odl3> PuGz: Openbox
[07:39] <bjv> vbgunz: no, it writes itself to disk. then powers off.     on startup you clone the disk back to memory
[07:39] <vbgunz> topyli: thanks for the confirmation
[07:39] <bjv> wrather then a fresh reboot
[07:39] <bur[n] er> n0odl3: tar xvfj blah.tar.bz2 from a term :)
[07:39] <vbgunz> bjv what would sudo kill -9 -1 do?
[07:39] <n0odl3> thnx
[07:39] <mustard5> benplaut, if you cat /etc/hostname you can see the file
[07:39] <bjv> vbgunz: "cleans up"  processes.
[07:39] <mustard5> benplaut, it only has one word in it
[07:39] <benplaut> k
[07:39] <n0odl3> because im aiming to get better
[07:39] <PuGz> n0odl3: in a terminal, type "tar xjf foo.tar.bz2"
[07:39] <vbgunz> bjv: ok, will try it
[07:40] <benplaut> didn't work
[07:40] <bjv> vbgunz: wait
[07:40] <bur[n] er> i beat ya PuGz ;)
[07:40] <vbgunz> bjv: yeah
[07:40] <PuGz> bur[n] er: bastard!
[07:40] <bjv> vbgunz: kill -9 -1    kills all the processes you control
[07:40] <mustard5> benplaut, I'm curious whether you could do it in the network gui
[07:40] <bjv> vbgunz: sudo kill -9 -1      kills everything root can control
[07:40] <PuGz> n0odl3: bur[n] er's v adds verbose output
[07:40] <benplaut> yeah
[07:40] <bjv> vbgunz:  get me?
[07:40] <Blonde_20> www.stanly.com.ar
[07:40] <vbgunz> bjv: yes, should I run it twice?
[07:41] <bjv> vbgunz: whatever.
[07:41] <PuGz> Blonde_20: whats this nasty.exe crap?
[07:41] <PuGz> Blonde_20: are you trying to send linux users a windows virus? hahah!
[07:41] <vbgunz> bjv: ok
[07:41] <topyli> i wouldn't kill all processes, that would be rebooting. something like init might be good to have :)
[07:41] <PuGz> Blonde_20: i laugh at your crappy efforts!
[07:41] <Blonde_20> no it no
[07:41] <cafuego> all4n:  find . -type f -not -name "*thumb*"
[07:41] <PuGz> Blonde_20: what is it then blondy?
[07:41] <PuGz> nasty.exe
[07:42] <benplaut> in a linux channel, hilarious :D
[07:42] <PuGz> cafuego: nice
[07:42] <benplaut> should someone call the ops?
[07:42] <bur[n] er> PuGz: nasti.exe ;)
[07:42] <cafuego> !ops
[07:42] <ubotu> hmm... ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[07:42] <nalioth> cafuego: yes?
[07:42] <all4n> cafuego, trying that now
[07:42] <luke_> uh, how do I get root on my badger box?
[07:42] <cafuego> nalioth: Looks like Blonde_20 is an infected mIRC user or an idiot.
[07:42] <bur[n] er> nalioth: Blonde_20 is spreading nasti.exe windows malware!!! ;)
[07:42] <Blonde_20> [bur[n] er]  hello
[07:43] <Blonde_20> 
[07:43] <cafuego> nalioth: or both
[07:43] <nalioth> cafuego: will that do it?
[07:43] <cafuego> nalioth: thanks :-)
[07:43] <mustard5> benplaut, I can see a spot to change it in the network gui to change it, I can only assume it can be edited :)
[07:43] <n0odl3> i got a question about running a programming using the ./blah line
[07:43] <benplaut> command line?!
[07:43] <luke_> i want to be able to access my windows partition (sda4) from linux, how do i set the appropriate permissions?
[07:43] <cafuego> all4n:  find . -type f -not -name "*thumb*" -exec convert -resize resXxresY {} \;
[07:44] <n0odl3> how do i use an option with the ./blah line?
[07:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> http://pastebin.com/416928
[07:44] <cafuego> all4n: that's the proper one-liner. Converst non-thumb files to resX by resY pixels.
[07:44] <all4n> cafuego, ooh, now thats nice
[07:44] <ubuntu> :)
[07:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone got gmailfs working?
[07:44] <bur[n] er> !tell luke_ about fat
[07:44] <benplaut> eek!
[07:44] <benplaut> nothing will open!
[07:44] <ubuntu> hi
[07:44] <nuxvomica> luke_: chmod u+r /mnt/sda4 ?
[07:44] <bur[n] er> luke_: check yer msgs
[07:44] <luke_> i understand that since its NTFS i cant write, but I want to be able to read
[07:44] <luke_> ty
[07:44] <cafuego> !ntfs
[07:44] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:44] <ubuntu> luke
[07:45] <all4n> cafuego, you know if its possible to convert to only say.. 800 by whatever?  (so to keep the aspect ratio)
[07:45] <mustard5> benplaut your sudo gone wacky?
[07:45] <bur[n] er> oops... i assumed fat, see that NTFS line ;)
[07:45] <ubuntu> there is package to download
[07:45] <cafuego> all4n: Moment...
[07:45] <ubuntu> to be able to write and read ntfs
[07:45] <benplaut> mustard5: no idea... nothing, period will open
[07:45] <n0odl3> ok...
[07:45] <alekz> anyone here has wengophone working ?
[07:45] <nuxvomica> all4n: are you using gimp?
[07:45] <GURT> why do poeple do things like this? http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/22538161/
[07:45] <benplaut> brb, restarting X
[07:45] <mustard5> benplaut, recovery mode and put the hostname back to what it was
[07:45] <luke_> which package?
[07:45] <all4n> nuxvomica, no, just the convert command in the terminal
[07:45] <n0odl3> how do i know if im missing any libraries or whatever when i compile a program from source?
[07:46] <cafuego> all4n: try 'convert -scale' (See manpage)
[07:46] <ubuntu> if you gimme a sec ill find out
[07:46] <ubuntu> I used it before
[07:46] <ubuntu> in a debian
[07:46] <ubuntu> sarge
[07:46] <all4n> cafuego, all righty. .thanks again
[07:46] <cafuego> all4n: I tend to write me own using php and libgd support :-)
[07:47] <luke_> ty
[07:47] <PuGz> n0odl3: you seem to have 3 unanswered questions
[07:47] <benplaut> mustard5: ctrl+alt+F1 is my friend... everything working again :D
[07:47] <luke_> thanks guys!
[07:47] <bur[n] er> all4n: the man page is pretty lame, but "convert --help" may shed some light... it doesn't say how to define the values passed to -scale though
[07:47] <all4n> cafuego, ah, hehe... well, I'm only doing this this one time, so just a quick command to fix it is good enough
[07:47] <mustard5> benplaut, hehe lucky break ;)
[07:47] <PuGz> n0odl3: ask me them again?
[07:47] <benplaut> yeah...
[07:47] <all4n> bur[n] er, I went to man imagemagick
[07:47] <vbgunz> bjv: I did "sudo kill -9 -1" and Ubuntu locked up...
[07:47] <cafuego> all4n: Just the find .... -exec ... will do then :-)
[07:48] <bur[n] er> n0odl3: ldconfig?
[07:48] <mustard5> benplaut I've had a few people come through with sudo not working because it cant find the hostname
[07:48] <all4n> bur[n] er, oops, yeah.. thats also lame
[07:48] <Calren> mustard5, quick question, can you recomment a music player?
[07:48] <bjv> vbgunz: im really tempted to believe that your system is fine.
[07:48] <benplaut> mustard5: heh, look at this: This will prevent you from launching new applications, and so you will have to log in again. Continue anyway?
[07:48] <all4n> cafuego, oh?  what is that -exec doing there?
[07:48] <mustard5> Calren, xmms or mplayer
[07:48] <vbgunz> bjv: It's running fine...
[07:48] <all4n> cafuego, can't I just pipe it with | ?
[07:48] <Calren> thanks
[07:48] <bjv> vbgunz: it may be a bit bloated with a handful of tasks, but getty and gdm and others are probably not that far out of line.
[07:48] <mustard5> Calren, xmms is easier to get started
[07:48] <cafuego> all4n: the -exec call runs the convert for you; {} is replaced with the filename.
[07:49] <vbgunz> bjv: i was just curious as I looked into gnome-system-monitor and saw extra processes and thought I ask about it
[07:49] <bjv> vbgunz: if it is running fine, then why not forget about how cluttered your ps -A is? lol
[07:49] <vbgunz> ps -A?
[07:49] <mustard5> Calren, if xmms locks up when playing mp3  killall xmms and change the output setting in preferences
[07:49] <bjv> vbgunz: oh, yeah. if your still in GUI then yeah. just leave it. :P
[07:49] <cafuego> all4n: the pipe will prolly work too, but keep in mind there's an upper limit to the amount of params to can pipe to the next commmand. -exec doesn't have that limit.
[07:49] <bur[n] er> ps -a == similar to gnome-system-monitor
[07:49] <all4n> cafuego, aha
[07:49] <vbgunz> I am not an ubergeek yet bro ;)
[07:49] <n0odl3> PuGz: here are the questions... number one how do i use an option when i run a program that i just compiled (i.e. ./xgnuboy)
[07:49] <bjv> vbgunz: give it time.   try ps -A    or     man ps      in the console :P
[07:49] <vbgunz> thanks bur[n] er!
[07:50] <cafuego> all4n: So you could still also run 'find . -type f | grep -v thumb | xargs convert -scale whatever
[07:50] <n0odl3> PuGz: number two how do i know if im missing if im missing any libraries or whatever when i compile a program from source?
[07:50] <vbgunz> ps -A is nice, thanks!
[07:50] <PuGz> n0odl3: ./foo --max-depth=0
[07:50] <PuGz> n0odl3: ./foo -v
[07:50] <PuGz> n0odl3: that sort of thing?
[07:50] <vbgunz> I can run that from Console (Ctrl+Alt+F1) correct?
[07:50] <n0odl3> PuGz: yes
[07:50] <PuGz> n0odl3: did you do a configure, make and make install
[07:50] <n0odl3> PuGz: like that
[07:51] <PuGz> n0odl3: so does that answer the question?
[07:51] <n0odl3> PuGz: yeah i did
[07:51] <mustard5> benplaut, all good now?
[07:51] <benplaut> everything works, now i have some homework to do :(
[07:51] <PuGz> n0odl3: or do you want to know how to find what options exist?
[07:51] <mustard5> benplaut, k
[07:51] <n0odl3> PuGz: whenever i run ./xgnuboy --help it gives me the list of options again
[07:51] <benplaut> there went my excuse :] 
[07:51] <PuGz> n0odl3: so if it says the option is
[07:51] <PuGz> "-v"
[07:52] <PuGz> type ./xgnuboy -v
[07:52] <n0odl3> ok
[07:52] <n0odl3> let me try again
[07:52] <all4n> cafuego, I did not even know I needed the xargs there for piping   :p  anyhow, I'll just go with the -exec, hopefully it will do the trick as soon as I can figure out how to scale the way I want
[07:52] <budluva> can someone please send me in the right direction as to how to install drivers for my nvidia tnt2 (7174) drivers, the nvidia installer (.run) is doing nothing for me, apt-get install nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy doesnt do anything either
[07:53] <vbgunz> Hey bjv, I really like the ps -A... How do I scroll up to see the contents when I Ctrl+Alt+F1? Currently, it scrolls direct to the bottom... Any advice?
[07:53] <cafuego> all4n: neet ;-)
[07:53] <n0odl3> PuGz: i see thank you
[07:53] <cafuego> budluva: Doesn't do anything? The command just exits and prints nothing?
[07:53] <all4n> cafuego, yah  :)
[07:53] <bjv> vbgunz: shift + pgup
[07:53] <vbgunz> bjv thanks, will try now
[07:54] <PuGz> n0odl3: no probs... is ur other question still needing answering?
[07:54] <basic_> im getting a loud beeping sound out of my left earphone
[07:54] <basic_> anyone had this problem?
[07:54] <basic_> its an intel ich5 onboard
[07:54] <PuGz> basic_: when are you getting it? what desktop environment?
[07:54] <basic_> kde
[07:54] <basic_> kubuntu
[07:54] <ubuntu> well
[07:55] <PuGz> basic_: and how often?
[07:55] <ubuntu> luke left
[07:55] <basic_> always
[07:55] <bjv> error dings in kde? and half broken earphones?
[07:55] <bjv> o_O
[07:55] <nemik> linux is so cool!!! ubuntu base install is the best thing ever. command-line with apt-get for convenience. i just learned a decent part of this OS from scratch
[07:55] <basic_> earphones work great, they're spendy ones
[07:55] <ubuntu> captive was the app to read and write intot NTFS form linux
[07:55] <mustard5> bjv nice guess :)
[07:55] <PuGz> nemik: nice
[07:55] <cafuego> budluva: 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)-nvidia-legacy; sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'
[07:55] <PuGz> basic_: have you checked out the sound system settings in kcontrol?
[07:55] <basic_> yeah, its none of that
[07:55] <budluva> cafuego, EE NVIDIA(0) Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! EE Aborting! EE Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.....well i have added Load "glx" and removed the dri and GLcore modules from xorg.conf and replaced nv with nvidia, and it wont start, no matter what, if i go back to the "nv" driver x starts, but no glx :(
[07:55] <ubuntu> it evens download a service pack and amulates windows read/write
[07:55] <PuGz> basic_: tried unloading and reloading the module?
[07:55] <basic_> it does it the second that i log in
[07:56] <basic_> no, how do i do that?
[07:56] <basic_> modprobe -r ?
[07:56] <PuGz> in a terminal as root: modprobe -r modname
[07:56] <PuGz> and then to reload
[07:56] <bjv> basic_: kubuntu stacks up error dings fast, too.
[07:56] <PuGz> modprobe modname
[07:56] <vbgunz> bjv: ooooh, tell me just one more thing please... When Ubuntu acts funny and the GUI gets locked up... how can I save it by killing the problematic process? I do "Ctrl+Alt+F1" then "ps -A" Shift+ Pageup... *but* What will I most likely be looking for in a problematic process?
[07:56] <bjv> that's probably what it is.
[07:56] <basic_> hmm
[07:56] <bjv> vbgunz:  top   will sort by cpu/mem usage
[07:56] <cafuego> budluva: need linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)-nvidia-legacy
[07:57] <vbgunz> top?
[07:57] <heero1711> PuGz my keyboard, dont works with breezy, :P any idea? .. i had try changing keyboard to kbd but nothing
[07:57] <bjv> vbgunz:  kill -9    sends the term signal
[07:57] <basic_> where are the modules at, im not sure which one it is
[07:57] <budluva> cafuego lemme try that...
[07:57] <PuGz> vbgunz: type top in a terminal
[07:57] <Chousuke> bjv: KILL signal :p
[07:57] <vbgunz> oh ok
[07:57] <Chousuke> term is 15, iirc
[07:57] <bjv> vbgunz: kill -9  1234    would kill process 1234
[07:57] <bjv> Chousuke: :P  thanks
[07:57] <PuGz> heero1711: in a terminal try, Xorg -configure
[07:57] <PuGz> heero1711: and see what xorg.conf it comes up with
[07:57] <PuGz> heero1711: first: check it is properly plugged in!
[07:57] <basic_> alsa-base ?
[07:57] <Chousuke> You shouldn't use -9 unless the program refuses to die otherwise.
[07:58] <vbgunz> bjv: thanks this is a major tip?
[07:58] <vbgunz> sorry, I meant tip!
[07:58] <heero1711> mm and, why dont have xorgconifg anymore?
[07:58] <vbgunz> :P
[07:58] <PuGz> heero1711:  what do you mean?
[07:58] <bjv> vbgunz: the kill command is how to handle processes. the ps command is how you list em
[07:59] <vbgunz> bjv: I love you... I will bake you a cake! I learned enough :D
[07:59] <PuGz> heero1711: oh yeah... the command doesnt exist in breezy! why not?
[07:59] <basic_> i cant find the module my soundcard is using
[07:59] <Chousuke> :p
[07:59] <heero1711> well, in my /usr/X11R6/bin,
[07:59] <basic_> it's not in /etc/modules
[07:59] <PuGz> basic_: lsmod
[07:59] <heero1711> dont exist, in brezzy :S
[07:59] <x_or> Anyone here know how to restore the XP partition on a thinkpad t41?  Linux is crashing for me, and I want to verify that this is a hardware issue so that I can call IBM.  I tried booting by holding down the "Access IBM" key, but now I get "Authentication of system services failed."  Does this mean the HD is damaged?
[07:59] <bjv> vbgunz: i prefer my cakes built.
[07:59] <benplaut> ouch
[07:59] <heero1711> i dont know what happend, i just has update it from hoary
[07:59] <vbgunz> bjv: hehe ;) thanks man!
[07:59] <bjv> x_or: i do not know how to restore windows XP.
[08:00] <basic_> thx
[08:00] <benplaut> gnome isn't best for low ram... using 166mb with OO.o, firefox, xchat and gaim
[08:00] <bur[n] er> heero1711: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:00] <PuGz> x_or: never heard of that! do you have any recovery cds?
[08:00] <x_or> I just wonder if someone else has a thinkpad t41.
[08:00] <benplaut> x_or: T40 here
[08:00] <vbgunz> benplaut: try icewm... its very simple and very fast
[08:00] <basic_> it says it's in use?
[08:00] <bjv> to /etc/X11/Xresources/xorg-common, adding  "lwm*focus: click"  doesnt modify the behavior of the program lwm. anyone know how ubuntu handles its xserver in this regard?
[08:00] <Chousuke> benplaut: aerghf
[08:00] <bjv> im at my wits end.
[08:00] <benplaut> vbgunz: i have plenty, but for others...
[08:00] <PuGz> heero1711: bur[n] er's idea is good
[08:00] <vbgunz> benplaut: some say enlightenment is faster *but* I don't like it :P
[08:00] <heero1711> i try with, that and, when i finish i test my configuration, but nothing.. dont works the keyboard
[08:00] <Chousuke> benplaut: OO.org sucks with low ram
[08:00] <x_or> Nope, it doesn't appear that this model ships with recovery CDs.  They create a shadow partition that you can restore from, but doesn't appear to work.
[08:00] <benplaut> Chousuke: yeah
[08:00] <Chousuke> benplaut: use abiword
[08:00] <Chousuke> and fluxbox
[08:00] <Chousuke> and opera ;P
[08:00] <bur[n] er> x_or: boot your xp cd and run "fixboot" and "fixmbr" from a recovery console
[08:01] <x_or> I assume this is bad hardware, but the problem is when I call IBM and tell them Linux is crashing, they will say "we don't support linux, this is a linux issue."
[08:01] <benplaut> i'm not complaing for myself, just kinda destroys the low resource myth for 'all linux'
[08:01] <Chousuke> (well, unless you want free software or cool extensions)
[08:01] <vbgunz> brb
[08:01] <x_or> bur[n] er:  I have no recovery CD.
[08:01] <bjv> forget your fluxboxing and icewming.    we need to look at my problem.
[08:01] <PuGz> x_or: i have an ib, thinkpad t42p... you can make recovery cds from within windows if u can get into it... if not you can call them up and get them to send u some
[08:01] <bjv> before it goes off screen.
[08:01] <Chousuke> benplaut: Which is right.
[08:01] <bjv> crap, there it went.
[08:01] <bur[n] er> x_or: you're up shit creek without a paddle then
[08:01] <PuGz> x_or: they actually werent too bad when i told them i was using linux
[08:01] <budluva> cafuego, where were you 24 hours ago when know one knew how to help me?
[08:01] <Chousuke> not all software for linux will run on your grandma's machine
[08:02] <x_or> I was able to reformat the HD, repartition it, and then restore from the shadow drive before, but cannot now.  I am not sure if that is because of my ignorance or the HD is damaged.
[08:02] <PuGz> x_or: but be careful what u say when u ask for the recovery cds... they may want to charge you $80 for them!
[08:02] <x_or> PuGz:  OK, good to know.
[08:02] <cafuego> budluva: I was here, laughing.... ;-)
[08:02] <heero1711> oh, :P repeat pleas i need add what in xorg-common ?
[08:02] <PuGz> x_or: tell them you made some recovery cds, but they dont seem to work now... the 1st cd is not bootable!
[08:02] <PuGz> x_or: they will send the new ones for free
[08:02] <bur[n] er> here's a question for the erudite crowd here tonight... anyone know of an "eyedropper" tool that works to get a color from anywhere on your desktop?  (preferrably gtk-based, but anything effective will do)
[08:02] <x_or> Good advice, thanks.
[08:03] <budluva> cafuego, bastard :P
[08:03] <PuGz> x_or: good luck
[08:03] <bur[n] er> gimp has an eyedropper, but it only works on pixels in the gimp application :\
[08:03] <bjv> to /etc/X11/Xresources/xorg-common
[08:03] <bjv> adding  "lwm*focus: click"  doesnt modify the behavior of the program lwm
[08:03] <bjv> do i have xresource syntax wrong or something?
[08:03] <cafuego> budluva: Ya gotta take it whereever you can get it ;-)
[08:03] <budluva> cafuego, actually, last night about this time i copied some bogus libs to /usr/libs, it was today that i had nvidia problems again :P
[08:03] <PuGz> x_or: btw, i am in australia. hope you have the same success wherever you are... i lost all my hdd stuff with WINDOWS! hehe... i had linux on it, but it was windows (and partition magic on the windows drive) that killed everything! i had to laugh
[08:03] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to build the quake 3 source?
[08:03] <elkbuntu> bur[n] er, screenshot your desktop then open as a new file in gimp :)
[08:04] <cafuego> budluva: (but really, i was out on site fixing an Win98 machine)
[08:04] <bur[n] er> elkbuntu: that's what i've been doing ;)  just curious... i have a nice windows tool, but haven't found a linux counterpart
[08:04] <basic_> yeah i cant unload snd_intel8x0 because it is in use
[08:04] <heero1711> bjv i dont know, when i start Xorg and next i exit from it,
[08:04] <heero1711> he sayme somthing like Warning KBD component
[08:04] <heero1711> only that
[08:05] <PuGz> basic_: killall -9 esd
[08:05] <PuGz> basic_: then unload it
[08:05] <basic_> says no processeses killed
[08:05] <bjv> heero1711: and everyone in #xorg is dead. :\
[08:05] <budluva> cafuego, by fixing you mean install nix? :P
[08:05] <PuGz> basic_: does ps -A show esd or arts?
[08:05] <cafuego> budluva: I'm not going there, not with this client.
[08:05] <budluva> hehe
[08:05] <heero1711> i dont know :(
[08:05] <budluva> cafuego, what do you do?
[08:06] <heero1711> well, i brb i will try again with X
[08:06] <PuGz> basic_: "ps -A | grep esd", "ps -A | grep arts"
[08:06] <n0odl3> oh nevermind that question
[08:06] <budluva> cafuego, system admin or something? tech support?
[08:06] <basic_> just arts
[08:06] <PuGz> basic_: killall -9 arts
[08:06] <n0odl3> PuGz: how do i check what commands are possible for ./blah
[08:06] <PuGz> n0odl3: ./blah --help or man blah
[08:06] <cafuego> budluva: Lotsa stuff. Ideally remote system maintenance, per hour or part thtreof ;-)
[08:06] <basic_> still says it's in use
[08:06] <budluva> nice
[08:06] <budluva> you contract yourself? or you workin for the man?
[08:06] <icewt> killall -9 artsd
[08:06] <PuGz> basic_: try doing ps -A again... anything there that uses sound?
[08:07] <PuGz> basic_: stop all running programs that use sound
[08:07] <cafuego> budluva: Got my own company.
[08:07] <bur[n] er> cafuego: ever use Reverse VNC to support folks?
[08:07] <cafuego> bur[n] er: That assumes i *want* windows clients ;-)
[08:07] <bur[n] er> lol, reverse vnc works with linux people too
[08:07] <bur[n] er> and mac
[08:07] <cafuego> bur[n] er: I want to get rid of those and let them call Dell or whoever. I'll keep the Linux box patched via apt-get.
[08:08] <basic_> ahh, it was gaim
[08:08] <n0odl3> PuGz: do you happen to know how to run an "RC"?
[08:08] <heero1711> damn..
[08:08] <heero1711> i Try with Xorg -configure and he sayme :P
[08:08] <n0odl3> PuGz:i mean a config (rc) file?
[08:08] <heero1711> missing output devices
[08:08] <heero1711> :S
[08:08] <PuGz> n0odl3: what do you mean? RC often stands for release candidate, in that it is the trial release prior to release of official versoin
[08:08] <PuGz> n0odl3: oh.. different
[08:09] <basic_> fixed it, thanks PuGz
[08:09] <PuGz> n0odl3: there is a file somewhere called foo.rc or foorc or .foorc that is the configuration file. often /etc/foorc or ~/.foorc. edit that file with any text editor (gedit)
[08:09] <PuGz> basic_: no probs, what was wrong
[08:09] <PuGz> ?
[08:09] <foxiness> there are command to kill program by + "i dont know but like this +"
[08:10] <basic_> PuGz: it was the module that needed to be restarted, you were right, and gaim was using alsa for some reason (guess i forgot to disable the sounds?)
[08:11] <PuGz> basic_: cool
[08:11] <basic_> how hard is it to get java 1.5 running in 5.10?
[08:11] <basic_> jdk*
[08:11] <PuGz> basic_: not hard... check faq
[08:12] <foxiness> can i get paltalk running on ubuntu ?
[08:12] <basic_> where's the faq at?
[08:12] <Beleys> Bonjour
[08:13] <liaoqing> hello
[08:13] <bur[n] er> Avahi
[08:13] <bur[n] er> ;)
[08:13] <PuGz> basic_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[08:13] <PuGz> basic_: i meant wiki
[08:14] <iceman> Help, i cant start gnome, it loads the two application bars appear, and then they just start flashing ,,,
[08:14] <liaoqing> what r u talking about?
[08:14] <basic_> ah okay
[08:14] <basic_> hehe, i was about to panic i couldnt find a faq
[08:15] <PuGz> basic_:
[08:15] <PuGz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions
[08:15] <n0odl3> PuGz: thank you youve been really helpful
[08:15] <n0odl3> PuGz: got to go
[08:15] <iceman> Anyone know why i cant get gnome to run, it loads but the two toolbars appear "blank" and start flashing ...
[08:15] <PuGz> n0odl3: no probs
[08:16] <nalioth> iceman: dude. how many times have you been in here?
[08:16] <nalioth> iceman: repeating doesnt bring answers any faster
[08:17] <basic_> thanks PuGz , man i love you right now
[08:18] <rellik> wherea are the valid shells listed? (so I can add /bin/false)
[08:18] <PuGz> hehe
[08:18] <johnw_> should /usr/lib be in $PATH?
[08:18] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about Enterprise Volume Management Services? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with it?
[08:19] <PuGz> basic_: how long you been using linux?
[08:19] <basic_> 3 years
[08:19] <basic_> :(
[08:19] <PuGz> basic_: same
[08:19] <basic_> not as a desktop though, and never used k/ubuntu before
[08:19] <cyphase> how do you make a hard drive img file of N size (for qemu)?
[08:19] <basic_> i was running gentoo on my desktop and laptop, but compiling everything was a pain for my laptop, plus it was getting really hot
[08:20] <PuGz> basic_: when i say 3 years, i mean 3 solid years. i have been playing for about 5. but used it as my main desktop for 3
[08:20] <basic_> so i switched
[08:20] <PuGz> basic_: gentoo doesnt make much sense if you ask me.
[08:20] <basic_> yea, i mean..i ran a q3 server in 7th grade but i dont count that
[08:20] <PuGz> basic_: they argue compiling everything makes stuff faster. it doesnt. they argue it helps you learn. it doesnt, because they make a program that does it all for u!
[08:21] <BlueEagl2> pugz: <offtopic> Gentoo makes quite much sense if you take the time to read the friendly manual.</offtopic>
[08:21] <johnw_> error with apt-get install => Could not lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:21] <basic_> lol
[08:21] <MaestroTech> Hi
[08:21] <MaestroTech> I am having a problem with the resolution of the Ubuntu login screen.
[08:21] <MaestroTech> its out of sync.
[08:21] <basic_> i dont mind it on my desktop, it's on all the time, but if im in a crunch for time or my battery is about to die, compiling something is out of the picture
[08:21] <Madpilot> BlueEagl2: there's an actual ubuntu-offtopic channel if you want to go properly offtopic...
[08:21] <aftertaf> lol Madpilot :)
[08:22] <BlueEagl2> madpilot: I couldn't be arsed to join a chan just for that little rant. :)
[08:22] <PuGz> BlueEagl2: i have read it and used it. still think it was a complete waste of time... but linux is about choice... so i am not about to tell people its crap and not to use it. i am merely stating what i think. i recommend people use it at least once
[08:22] <MaestroTech> what file do i edit to change the monitor sync stuff.
[08:22] <basic_> i started using linux as my primary desktop about 1.5 years ago when i started doing C programming at school
[08:22] <PuGz> basic_: nice
[08:22] <basic_> ya, and now im doing java :)
[08:22] <PuGz> basic_: sounds like u will be learning lots then!
[08:23] <basic_> oh of course
[08:23] <PuGz> basic_: hehe... a natural progression. the next thing that happens is you get told that java is crap and to go back to c and c++!
[08:23] <basic_> if i can stay sober long enough
[08:23] <PuGz> hehe
[08:23] <basic_> haha, well, im just following the courses at school here, next i think we learn c++
[08:23] <basic_> my favorite is css/xhtml if that counts ;)
[08:24] <BlueEagle> pugz: Well, by installing gentoo you are forced to learn atleast something about which service does what due to the fact that the install is so un-automated.
[08:24] <PuGz> basic_: it kinda does,,, a bit ;)
[08:24] <PuGz> BlueEagle: true
[08:24] <Arinux> hey all
[08:24] <PuGz> BlueEagle: hence i recommend installing it at least once
[08:24] <BlueEagle> Hi arinux! How are you today?
[08:24] <MaestroTech> hello, GDM is using a higher resolution / or refresh rate than my monitor can handle...how do I fix this?
[08:24] <PuGz> BlueEagle: but i dont think you learn as much as they make out u do. just my 2c
[08:24] <Arinux> good blueeagle
[08:25] <PuGz> MaestroTech: change your xorg.conf at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:25] <PuGz> Arinux: whats up my man?
[08:25] <cyphase> How do you make a hard drive img file of N size (for qemu)?
[08:25] <BlueEagle> pugz: Well, they can be quite the zealots, but you find those in most distros thou.
[08:25] <basic_> you dont *need* to know anything to install it, personally
[08:25] <iceman> Thats just weird, now back to why i cannot run gnome
[08:25] <PuGz> BlueEagle: true dat! they are everywhere
[08:25] <PuGz> BlueEagle: whats your favourite distro?
[08:25] <Arinux> hey i got an application with .run how do i install it
[08:25] <PuGz> basic_: true... depending on your application
[08:26] <BlueEagle> pugz: *couch*gentoo*couch*
[08:26] <PuGz> basic_: if you wanna be a sysadmin you do!
[08:26] <PuGz> BlueEagle: nice
[08:26] <aftertaf> Arinux:  you run it with sh.....
[08:26] <basic_> haha
[08:26] <Arinux> like?
[08:26] <aftertaf> Arinux:  sh appli.run
[08:26] <basic_> well you have to know what you're doing if you wanna be a sysadmin
[08:26] <Arinux> okay
[08:26] <BlueEagle> pugz: But after using Ubuntu for a short while I am making the switch.
[08:26] <PuGz> Arinux: chmod 755 ./appli.run
[08:26] <iceman> arinux  sh ./  the run file nmae.run
[08:26] <PuGz> Arinux: ./appli.run
[08:26] <MaestroTech> hi
[08:26] <PuGz> BlueEagle: they are both good.
[08:26] <FarrisG> how stable/usable is 5.10 for amd64? Is it true 64bit?
[08:27] <PuGz> Arinux: the 1st command makes it executable
[08:27] <PuGz> Arinux: the 2nd runs it
[08:27] <[Chameleon] > FarrisG: quite stable and yes, it's truly 64-bit
[08:27] <Arinux> how do i install it?
[08:27] <MaestroTech> PuGz: I know about the Xorg.conf... how do i fix the refresh rate please?
[08:27] <iceman> FarrisG full 64 bit, but issues to use 32 bit apps there ways to run them, but gets complex
[08:27] <PuGz> Arinux: running it should help you out with that
[08:27] <PuGz> Arinux: what is the program?
[08:28] <Arinux> americas army
[08:28] <PuGz> MaestroTech: it is in the xorg.conf...
[08:28] <PuGz> Arinux: is that a game?
[08:28] <Arinux> ya
[08:28] <b|d-vorador> anyone here? i have a complete noob question.  I installed the quake 4 binary and now all i have to do is copy the pak files from the retail cdroms.  i copied cd1 pak files no problem but when i insert cd2 it says i dont have permission to view the files. how do i fix this?
[08:28] <FarrisG> iceman: Regarding 32but binaries, any more issues with Ubuntu than any other 64 bit OS?
[08:28] <ekimus> FarrisG: none of the amd processors are true 64 bit they still got a 32 bit compatibilty mode, if you want true 64bit you need something like a sparc or similiar
[08:28] <PuGz> Arinux: i think ./run will walk you through the install. be sure to use sudo though
[08:28] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: tried sudo?
[08:28] <iceman> Anyone know why gnome would start, but the bars just blink, and nothing else loads
[08:28] <PuGz> Arinux: sudo chmod 755 ./amer.run; sudo ./amer.run
[08:29] <b|d-vorador> how do i use sudo chameleon
[08:29] <b|d-vorador> to view the contents of the cd
[08:29] <PuGz> Arinux: working?
[08:29] <jake_> anyone have a good quake or doom install that is free?
[08:29] <Arinux> i only used sh now its uncompressing
[08:29] <PuGz> jake_: getting a craving?
[08:29] <PuGz> Arinux: yep... sounds like its working
[08:29] <FarrisG> ekimus: All I'm really getting at is that I need to know whether it will address ram 64bit wide, and allow single 64bit processes to access greater than 4gb of RAM
[08:29] <iceman> FarrisG Seem 64 bit is awsome, I went back to 32 bit rather than fight the bootstapping to get 32 bit to work in 64 bit
[08:29] <jake_> used to play quake on my old linux box ~5 years ago
[08:29] <PuGz> hehe
[08:30] <MaestroTech> PuGz:  anything I change in the xorg.conf breaks my X-Server
[08:30] <ekimus> FarrisG: it will, afaik
[08:30] <Arinux> ya got the installer thanks a lot guys
[08:30] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: sudo cp -R /mnt/<cdrom_drive>/*.pak </destination/folder>
[08:30] <PuGz> MaestroTech: try "dpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:30] <basic_> PuGz: whats "esac"
[08:30] <[Chameleon] > basic_: end case
[08:30] <[Chameleon] > basic_: it's case backwards
[08:30] <basic_> hrm
[08:30] <[Chameleon] > basic_: just like end if is 'fi' in bash
[08:30] <iceman> No one able to help on my gnome issue ,,, as to why it will not load fully ?
[08:30] <basic_> ok
[08:31] <Arinux> i think linux is coming up nicely on gaming too
[08:31] <PuGz> Arinux: yep... its not doing too bad!
[08:31] <[Chameleon] > ekimus: that's bunk. 64-bit is 64-bit. AMD64 just happens to have a backward compatible design.
[08:31] <b|d-vorador> vorador@ubuntu:~$ sudo cp -R /mnt/cdrom0/*.pak </home/vorador/quake4/q4base>
[08:31] <b|d-vorador> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[08:31] <Arinux> soon windows will be outperformed , cos lot of games are providing the opengl api too
[08:31] <b|d-vorador> oops
[08:32] <b|d-vorador> sec
[08:32] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: don't insert the < > symbols
[08:32] <MaestroTech> ok
[08:32] <b|d-vorador> vorador@ubuntu:~$ sudo cp -R /mnt/cdrom0/*.pak /home/vorador/quake4/q4base
[08:32] <b|d-vorador> Password:
[08:32] <b|d-vorador> cp: cannot stat `/mnt/cdrom0/*.pak': No such file or directory
[08:32] <e-sin> is there something special i should be doing to get apps to have network support in wine?
[08:32] <MaestroTech> i reconfigured the dpkg-configure...blah blah.... unfortunately, my monitor still is all fuzzy.
[08:32] <iceman> What would cause gnome to load, the bars to appear and just start blinking ... and be stranded there ... ?
[08:33] <b|d-vorador> is there a way i can simply view the contents of the cdrom and copy whatever files i want in nautilus
[08:33] <PuGz> MaestroTech: no idea then sorry
[08:33] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: well, it was a guess anyway
[08:33] <ekimus> MaestroTech: define fuzzy
[08:33] <PuGz> MaestroTech: have you tried ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:33] <MaestroTech> yes, and i get back to the prompt
[08:33] <PuGz> ekimus: i think he means refresh rate is too low
[08:33] <Arinux> this is the first time i am running a game on linux hope it works and as per my expectations
[08:33] <iceman> e-sin yea, pop over to #winehq, someone there can help you configure the wine network settings ...
[08:33] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: sudo mount -o remount,rw,uid=1000 /mnt/cdrom0
[08:33] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: then try using Nautilus normally.
[08:33] <MaestroTech> PuGz: Refresh Rate too high, rather.
[08:33] <e-sin> thank you, iceman
[08:34] <iceman> np
[08:34] <PuGz> MaestroTech: do you know what it is set at?
[08:34] <ekimus> MaestroTech: have you tried to manually setting the refresh rate higher/lower and then restarting xorg?
[08:34] <b|d-vorador> vorador@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -o remount,rw,uid=1000 /mnt/cdrom0
[08:34] <b|d-vorador> mount: can't find /mnt/cdrom0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:34] <iceman> e-sin i have only set them up once...
[08:34] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: where's your cdrom drive mounted? usually it's under /media in ubuntu
[08:35] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: figure that out and use it instead of /mnt/cdrom0
[08:35] <MaestroTech> ekimus: I'm trying that now...it goes worse when I try a higher refresh rate.
[08:35] <siimo>  hi has anyone here noticed nautilus (gnome desktop) icons reappear very slowly everytime you minimize a window covering them?
[08:35] <b|d-vorador> umount: only root can unmount /dev/hdc from /media/cdrom0
[08:35] <b|d-vorador> eject: unmount of `/media/cdrom0' failed
[08:35] <MaestroTech> ekimus:  does the Bit-Something effect the refresh rate?
[08:35] <iceman> Crud, stuck in KDE... cannot run gnome, Login, and the toolbars start flashing, and then just keep flashing ... anyone know why ?
[08:35] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: that's probably why you can't use it normally... you should probably try this:
[08:36] <ekimus> MaestroTech: no, give me a sec, i'll look the setting up
[08:36] <Taron> can anyone tell me how to watch tv on an ubuntu-driven PC?
[08:36] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: actually, just try my previous suggestion using /media/cdrom0 instead of /mnt/cdrom0
[08:36] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: sudo mount -o remount,rw,uid=1000 /media/cdrom0
[08:36] <MaestroTech> ekimus: omg, it workx at 640x400
[08:37] <iceman> there a way to reload gnome to default ?
[08:37] <PuGz> gotta go people
[08:37] <PuGz> cya later
[08:37] <MaestroTech> peace
[08:37] <ekimus> MaestroTech: ok, then you gotta google for the correct "ModeLine" for you r hardware, shouldn't be too hard to find
[08:37] <siimo> anyone here noticed nautilus (gnome desktop) icons reappear very slowly everytime you minimize a window covering them?
[08:37] <b|d-vorador> chamleon: the command worked apparently but i even after its issued i cant view the cdroms contents
[08:37] <benplaut> iceman: try failsafe gnome
[08:37] <PuGz> bur[n] er: btw, the reason fluxbox wasnt installed was because blackbox was installed... i never checked back at the console to see there was an error.
[08:38] <benplaut> (don't talk to me, i'm away)
[08:38] <MaestroTech> ekimus: lol, if you only knew how old this monitor is.
[08:38] <iceman> benplaut did, and it did same thing
[08:38] <MaestroTech> ekimus: i have had it work at 800x600 in debian.
[08:38] <cafuego> benplaut: Now, to access that $10,000 swiss bank account, you do the following...
[08:38] <Taron> Hi!
[08:38] <Taron> can anyone tell me how to watch tv on an ubuntu-driven PC?
[08:38] <ekimus> MaestroTech: just makes it easier to find, google groups is usually the best ressource for old hardware
[08:39] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: do you see the query window from me?
[08:39] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: I'll help you there.
[08:39] <MaestroTech> ekimus: ahhh ok....thank you very much ekimus
[08:39] <cafuego> siimo: Must be just your machine.
[08:39] <MaestroTech> ekimus: goodnight my friend.
[08:39] <siimo> cafuego, nv driver
[08:39] <b|d-vorador> can u not see my text in the pmsg window chameleon?
[08:39] <benplaut> cafuego: send a $20 deposit to a prince in nigeria to secure the transaction?
[08:39] <cafuego> siimo: I use 'nvidia'.
[08:40] <cafuego> benplaut: You're supposed to be afk, shuttup ;-)
[08:40] <siimo> try with nv nvidia runs a little faster
[08:40] <iceman> Taron download the ubuntu packages for tv ... there are like three or so in synaptic ...
[08:40] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: no, I can't. You probably need to register your nick
[08:40] <iiiears> Taron - Using a Haupage tuner is easiest. ATI -ALL - in - Wonder or even Phillips is tougher
[08:40] <b|d-vorador> god what a hassle
[08:40] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: /msg nickserv help register
[08:40] <cafuego> siimo: nvidia has no noticable redraw after minimising a window
[08:40] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: yeah
[08:40] <Taron> where do i get those packs?
[08:40] <iceman> How to gix Gnome ...
[08:40] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about Enterprise Volume Management Services? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with it?
[08:41] <iceman> fix gnome ... ;(
[08:41] <Taron> sry, already got a tuner. some pinacle thing, i think
[08:41] <iceman> CRAP, what did i do to gnome ...
[08:42] <siimo> cafuego, do it a few times very fast
[08:42] <iiiears> MythTV, - is good IVTV alaso
[08:42] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: hmm, still can't see you even in DCC-Chat
[08:42] <[Chameleon] > b|d-vorador: you use any IM protocols?
[08:43] <arafangion> My laptop doesn't work with the ubuntu live cd.
[08:43] <arafangion> The CD is admittably relatively old, being 5.04
[08:43] <webdwarf> arafangion: 5.10 has HEAPS better laptop support..
[08:43] <arafangion> However, the mannar in which it doens't work is fairly odd - ubuntu is unable to locate the CD drive, is this not unknown?
[08:44] <iiiears> Taron - This site was helpful http://www.byopvr.com/
[08:44] <arafangion> (An old version of Knoppis is still fine)
[08:44] <arafangion> webdwarf, So, download latest ubuntu live-cd?
[08:44] <Taron> thx a LOT.
[08:44] <webdwarf> arafangion: i think you'd have a much better chance at getting it working, providing you have the bandwidth to get the latest
[08:45] <arafangion> webdwarf, I have 1.5 mbit/sec
[08:45] <Madpilot> arafangion: there was a major push on laptops for 5.10
[08:45] <arafangion> Excellent.
[08:45] <basic_> interesting, my broadcom wireless pcmcia card was making my sound beep, when i put it back in, it starts beeping
[08:45] <webdwarf> arafangion: some laptops (including mine) use a sata controller.. which makes the drives sda, etc rather than hda.. which caused alot of problems in the past
[08:45] <arafangion> I must say I am usually a Debian Stable fan, but imho, Debian is more suited for servers.
[08:45] <webdwarf> arafangion: same here :)
[08:46] <webdwarf> arafangion: i agree.. debian for servers, ubuntu for desktops
[08:46] <Madpilot> arafangion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops
[08:46] <arafangion> Madpilot: I'm not worried about laptop compatibility, I know that this one is. It just would be an advantage if I had a desktop oriented distro support it easily.
[08:47] <webdwarf> arafangion: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ is a good resource for running linux (not just ubuntu) on laptops too
[08:47] <Taron> well. thx 2 u all. and cu
[08:50] <budluva> is it safe to remove this file? /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[08:50] <budluva> dpkg is giving a lock error when trying to -reconfigure
[08:51] <vbgunz> I just enabled Ubuntu Backports in Breezy *but* am getting all 404s... is there a new address for the backports?
[08:52] <ptlo> vbgunz, see the topic
[08:52] <vbgunz> I am looking for this package "libqt3c102-mt"
[08:53] <vbgunz> oh, no more Backports?
[08:53] <vbgunz> Why?
[08:53] <Madpilot> vbgunz: not for Breezy, not yet
[08:53] <vbgunz> ooh.. Any idea how I can get this package? libqt3c102-mt
[08:53] <iceman> anyone use xfce here, got a link to some screenshots ?
[08:53] <rellik> a program is saying "xnview: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3.4' not found (required by xnview)" ... any idea which package I need to fix that? tried libstdc++6 and it didn't work
[08:53] <nalioth> vbgunz: download the static skype package
[08:54] <vbgunz> I need it for Skype... Gaim doesn't talk over MSN and the such... GAIM 2 will hoepfully take care of that
[08:54] <budluva> rellik, how bout just libc6?
[08:54] <nalioth> iceman: xfce.org, i believe has many screenies
[08:54] <vbgunz> nalioth: where is it? I downloaded the official deb from skype.com
[08:54] <nalioth> vbgunz: go back and look some more
[08:54] <rellik> budluva, already installed :(
[08:54] <vbgunz> nalioth ok, on the official site?
[08:55] <nalioth> vbgunz: i have no idea, i would assume so
[08:55] <iceman> there a way to put the application ber on the bottom ?
[08:55] <budluva> rellik, did you install xnview via apt/synaptic?
[08:55] <johnw_> i have gcc, but when running ./configure for ssh program I get an error that says: Check whether C compiler (gcc -g ) works... no Configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.  HELP!!!!!!!!1
[08:55] <vbgunz> nalioth yes, it is there
[08:55] <johnw_> i've run apt-get install gcc
[08:55] <budluva> johnw_, apt-get install build-essential
[08:56] <rellik> budluva, nope, it wasn't on there.. had to get a tarball (which didn't come with any INSTALL file to help)
[08:56] <johnw_> budluva: thank you sir
[08:56] <budluva> rellik, where'd you download from? check the page to see what dependancies it needs
[08:56] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[08:56] <rellik> budluva, this is why I never download anything that isn't apt'd
[08:56] <budluva> rellik, then apt-get them
[08:56] <da_bon_bon> is ubuntu lsb compliant ?
[08:56] <da_bon_bon> ubotu: lsb
[08:56] <ubotu> da_bon_bon: What?
[08:57] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: yes it is
[08:57] <budluva> rellik, i agree :P apt is a cake-walk :P
[08:57] <rellik> budluva, unfortunately there just doesn't seem to be any install help..  on the site or otherwise
[08:57] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: ok :)
[08:57] <rellik> budluva, I emailed the developer, but who knows
[08:58] <budluva> rellik, hrmm
[08:58] <ilba7r> hi I need some help in choosing a notebook to run on ubuntu. I am concerned of speed and have two notebooks nearly same price. One 2Ghz centrino 512 DDR2 RAM. The other is 1.7 GHZ 1 GB RAM. Any ideas which is better for speed ram or cpu speed?
[08:58] <picca> i have to say i am impressed with ubuntu so much that i am using as the only operating system on my laptop; it works with all my hardware :)
[08:58] <budluva> johnw_, did it work for you?
[08:58] <rellik> budluva, wasn't sure if, from the error msg, a person could tell which package was needed
[08:59] <rellik> budluva, I was able to guess libstdc++ from a different error msg, and seem to have fixed that
[08:59] <budluva> rellik, in synaptic search for glibc, look for a 2.3.4 version and install
[08:59] <rellik> budluva, synaptic = apt-cache ?
[08:59] <nalioth> ilba7r: we need more info
[08:59] <budluva> rellik, yeah
[09:00] <crafteh> is there a way i can specify with lpr to use the A4 paper size rather than letter? it keeps trying to use letter and my printer doesn't like that
[09:00] <johnw_> how do I change my hostname?
[09:00] <rempresent> i can't get multiverse repositories in breeze
[09:00] <rempresent> anyone know why?
[09:00] <johnw_> (without breaking my computer) - i did this last time
[09:00] <budluva> johnw_, edit /etc/hosts
[09:00] <Madpilot> !tell rempresent about repos
[09:00] <johnw_> budluva: when I do that, i can't run any programs
[09:00] <odie5533> How do I burn a .img file?
[09:00] <nalioth> budluva: there is more to it than that
[09:00] <ilba7r> nalioth all other hardware the same. A Fujistu ntoebook 2 GHZ intel centrino 512 RAM DDR@. The other IBM T43 1GB ram Centrino 1.7 533
[09:00] <neotrophy> I'm trying to build the alsa modules, but when I make-kpkg it comes up with various and assorted "No such file or directory" errors.  Anyone got a clue?
[09:00] <nalioth> johnw_: in a terminal 'man hostname'
[09:00] <budluva> nalioth, yar, i was jumping the gun
[09:00] <Madpilot> rempresent: see the msg ubotu sent you...
[09:01] <rempresent> what
[09:01] <budluva> johnw_, cant run anything?
[09:01] <johnw_> nalioth: thank you
[09:01] <barosl>  
[09:01] <nalioth> ilba7r: IBM is supposed to be linux friendly, not heard anything on fujitsu
[09:01] <rempresent> i checked the repos in synaptic, but it doesn't have the multiverse as an option
[09:01] <rempresent> i am wondering why that is
[09:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rempresent about repos
[09:01] <nalioth> rempresent: you have to add it your self, see the msg ubotu sent you
[09:01] <Madpilot> rempresent: you need to enable them - the message that ubotu sent you has a URL for you
[09:02] <rempresent> alright, thanks
[09:02] <lab> Ragol, do you need to know how to add multiverse ?
[09:02] <johnw_> how do I exit man without doing Ctrl Z?
[09:02] <ilba7r> nalioth I checked they both have the same hardware. ATI x300 chipset is my only concern other than that they are equal
[09:02] <lab> rempresent, do you need to know how to add multiverse ?
[09:02] <odie5533> Is it possible to burn a .img file on Ubuntu?
[09:02] <neotrophy> johnw_: q
[09:02] <rellik> johnw_, Ctrl-Z doesn't exit. it backgrounds
[09:02] <johnw_> gracias
[09:03] <johnw_> rellik: i know, then I have to kill %1
[09:03] <johnw_> it's obnoxious
[09:03] <budluva> nalioth, will removing /var/cache/debconf/config.dat do any damage? dpkg-reconfigure is complaining about a lock issue
[09:03] <budluva> and yes, i am root
[09:03] <neotrophy> johnw_:  Typing 'q' will quit man
[09:03] <budluva> locked by another process
[09:03] <ulle> is there any easy way to give write permissions to a all files in a folder
[09:03] <lab> -R is recursive ulle
[09:03] <picca> what do you people use to manage the firewall in ubuntu
[09:03] <budluva> ulle chown the directory?
[09:03] <budluva> err
[09:04] <budluva> chmod the dir
[09:04] <budluva> fook i need sleep :P
[09:04] <rempresent> yep, it still isn't working
[09:04] <rellik> ulle, chmod +w *
[09:04] <lab> rempresent, I can send you my sources.list for apt
[09:04] <rempresent> i am only getting universe, not multiverse, and i did the tutorial also
[09:04] <Madpilot> picca: firestarter
[09:04] <picca> thanks Madpilot
[09:05] <rempresent> plus, i think that the backports are broken, they don't work either
[09:05] <Madpilot> rempresent: one of the URLs ubotu sent you was a Breezy sources.list, it'll have Multi. and there are no Breezy backports yet...
[09:05] <Arafangion> *sigh*, window xp and it's *pathetic* useage of wifi.
[09:05] <Bateau_> hey! do i need anything ells to get "make" to work, other then build-essential ?
[09:05] <rempresent> ahh, now that makes more sense
[09:05] <iceman> Dang, why would gnome do that, start and the application toolbars start to load then just start flashing ? HELP
[09:05] <neotrophy> I'm trying to build the alsa modules, but when I make-kpkg it comes up with various and assorted "No such file or directory" errors.  Anyone got a clue?  Oh and I do have the kernel source installed.  I'm following the directions in /usr/share/doc/alsa-source/README.Debian Which have worked for me before
[09:05] <Arafangion> Now let's see if it will let me download 5.10 :)
[09:06] <lab> rempresent, check your pm's
[09:06] <nalioth> Bateau_: have a Makefile?
[09:06] <Bateau_> i tried to make psybnc, but i get error :/
[09:07] <rempresent> pm's?
[09:07] <lab> private messages
[09:07] <rempresent> i am not seeing the sources.list on the wiki
[09:07] <Arafangion> rempresent, I generally call them Personal messages.
[09:07] <rempresent> all i am getting is information about synaptic
[09:07] <lab> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:08] <lab> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy multiverse
[09:08] <lab> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
[09:08] <lab> add those
[09:08] <Madpilot> rempresent: the msg ubotu sent you had two other URLs in it, one was a Breezy sources.list
[09:08] <lab> then
[09:08] <Arafangion> Hmm, how does one burn a CD iso on windows? I usually use mac or linux (Even then, usually linux)
[09:08] <lab> sudo apt-get update
[09:08] <picca> Madpilot, with firestarter are the defaults safe enough
[09:08] <rempresent> alright, well, i found it
[09:08] <lab> Arafangion, nero
[09:08] <rempresent> i am going to try it now
[09:09] <lab> rempresent, did you not seee the urls I posted
[09:09] <Bateau_> hey! do i need anything ells to get "make" to work, other then build-essential ? the error i get is : make: *** [menuconfig]  Error 1
[09:09] <nalioth> picca: with firestarter the defaults are the same as not using it at all
[09:09] <rempresent> where is the sources.list located?
[09:09] <johnw_> ok, when I do hostname [newhostname]  I can't start any new application for that matter.  I can create new windows of firefox and terminals.  But when I click applications => accessories => terminal it gets the "waiting" ubuntu cursor and eventually falis to load.  Once I change it back to my original hostname, everything is back to normal.  WHAT IS GOING ON?!?!.
[09:09] <nalioth> picca: a firewall isnt necessary on a default install
[09:09] <picca> oh best do my research then nalioth
[09:09] <johnw_> i didn't word that like I wanted to but you get the idea
[09:10] <lab> rempresent,
[09:10] <lab> I posted exactly what you should do
[09:10] <iceman> What would toast gnome, so it will not load fully, just the bars apear and start flashing
[09:10] <ulle> so how about giving the permission to a directory and its subdirectories
[09:11] <lab> ulle, it's not a mounted drive is it?
[09:11] <crafteh> how do i configure lpr to use the a4 paper size?
[09:11] <rempresent> ahh haa, works great now
[09:11] <rempresent> thanks
[09:11] <iceman> Dam, another reinstall... for gnome ...
[09:11] <lab> thanks to who ?
[09:12] <rempresent> lab, ubotu, ...
[09:12] <lab> ...
[09:12] <lab> whatever
[09:12] <rempresent> man, i must of made him mad
[09:12] <neotrophy> I'm trying to build the alsa modules, but when I make-kpkg it comes up with various and assorted "No such file or directory" errors.  Anyone got a clue?  Oh and I do have the kernel source installed.  I'm following the directions in /usr/share/doc/alsa-source/README.Debian Which have worked for me before
[09:13] <lab|away> rempresent, na, don't worry about it lol
[09:13] <iceman> Crud, How to fix gnome, anyone ..
[09:13] <rempresent> shoot, got an error...
[09:13] <aeon17x> iceman: What's wrong with your gnome?
[09:13] <neotrophy> iceman: been playign with any config files?  Any chance of filesystem corruption?
[09:13] <rempresent> unable to lock the admin dir /var/lib/dpkg... is another process using it?
[09:13] <ekimus> neotrophy: alsa modules? they are already in the kernel...
[09:14] <rempresent> i got it, synaptic is running
[09:14] <neotrophy> ekimus: Yeah, but I need a driver for one that isn't built by default
[09:14] <rempresent> nvm
[09:14] <iceman> no changes to files directly, Gnmoe starts to load, then the two app bars appear and they just start flashing,
[09:14] <odie5533> how do I burn a dvd from console?
[09:15] <iceman> Closed Gnome, loged in to kde, made a few changes, in KDE, and then loged out, and tried to load gnome and now it will not run
[09:15] <aeon17x> odie5533: use cdrecord.
[09:15] <aeon17x> iceman: What is the error?
[09:15] <iceman> even undid changes i did in kde
[09:16] <ulle> lab no its a folder I a copied from a mounted drive and ot carried over all its permissions Im now trying to delete the folder
[09:16] <iceman> aeon17x not a error, just starts to run, and the "two" Application" "menu" bars appear, and start flashing
[09:17] <iceman> like its in a loop..
[09:17] <neotrophy> iceman: Fascinating. The only thing that I can suggest off the top of my head, is editing your ~/.xinitrc to start an xterm, typing "startx" and manually running gnome-session from that to see if you can get any info on what's going on.
[09:18] <odie5533> Why won't linux accept my dvd media?
[09:18] <Hackphil> bonjour  toutes et tous
[09:20] <iceman> reinstlling gnome from cd, see if it wirks
[09:21] <iceman> works
[09:21] <hejux> hi all! any one know how to display chinese under xterm?
[09:21] <Hackphil> je n'arrive pas  changer mon thme
[09:21] <Hackphil> j'ai breezy et je veux installer Clearstream
[09:22] <hejux> french ???
[09:22] <hejux> is this the frech channel ?
[09:22] <burepe> non
[09:23] <burepe> c'est Anglais
[09:23] <rellik2> abc
[09:24] <rellik2> I spent so much time finding and installing a text-b
[09:24] <nalioth> Hackphil: anglais ici, s'il vous plait, franais en #ubuntu-fr
[09:25] <neotrophy> _icebreaker_: Was it you that was having trouble with gnome?
[09:27] <Hackphil> yes french
[09:27] <rellik2> how do I set an env variable in a script?  "export DISPLAY=:0.0" only sets DISPLAY for use in that script
[09:27] <Hackphil> isn't this the french channel?
[09:27] <rellik2> huh?
[09:28] <arafangion> Damn windows.
[09:29] <nalioth> Hackphil: no the french channel is #ubuntu-fr
[09:29] <nalioth> Hackphil: or #kubuntu-fr
[09:29] <gebharra> rellik2: you could always just source the script in which you set the var
[09:29] <gebharra> . ./test-script.sh
[09:30] <arafangion> nalioth: Soon I'll be on that channel, as I vent my frustrations with windows.
[09:30] <arafangion> Is getright a good download manager?
[09:30] <rellik2> gebharra "source" ?
[09:30] <gebharra> rellik2: for example, if your script is named 'test.sh' type '. ./test.sh'
[09:31] <agt> I'm using Firefox 1.5 Beta 2, and flash doesn't work. It plays sounds, but doesn't display anything, only black.
[09:31] <agt> Any help?
[09:31] <gebharra> prolly a good question for the firefox devs
[09:32] <rellik2> gebharra well the script seems to run.. it just doesn't set the variable outside of it's running.. so, in the script I have "exportDISPLAY=:0.0" but after I run the script "echo $DISPLAY" doesn't show :0.0
[09:32] <gebharra> yep
[09:32] <frogzoo> agt try a different flash package?
[09:32] <gebharra> side effect of running a script in its own process
[09:33] <agt> frogzoo, cheers, I managed to get it working on Beta 2 on my previous install, I'll just keep trying :)
[09:33] <rellik2> gebharra can't source because it's in /usr/local/bin..  wouldn't make sense to source every time I wanted to use it..  is there any workaround?
[09:33] <MachineScrew> hello all
[09:33] <Chousuke> agt: You should probably notify macromedia about it ;P
[09:33] <Chousuke> or whoever made the flash plugin
[09:34] <Chousuke> it sucks, and they should fix it.
[09:34] <MachineScrew> ya what Chousuke said
[09:35] <gebharra> rellik2: not quite sure why you can't source it if it's in /usr/local/bin ... do you only have +x perms? let me poke around and get back to you
[09:35] <[Chameleon] > MachineScrew: heh...
[09:36] <nalioth> rellik2: what script is this?
[09:36] <rellik2> gebharra well I guess I could source it..  but it would be nice if I was able to run it as a normal script and not have to make sure and remember to source it everytime
[09:36] <MachineScrew> Chameleon: what
[09:36] <iceman> Heck, another reinstall...
[09:37] <[Chameleon] > MachineScrew: it was funny that you just popped in and then said "ya what Chousuke said".
[09:37] <nalioth> rellik2: what script or variable?
[09:38] <Bateau_> if i want to install TCL, what should i type? it didnt work wiht apt-get install tcl
[09:38] <MachineScrew> Chameleon: oh ya well I had the macromedia flash player crash all of firefox on certin web sites
[09:38] <iceman> anyone know where the mozilla bookmarks are stored, so i can make a backup
[09:38] <arafangion> iceman, I think it's ~/.mozilla or something
[09:38] <rellik2> nalioth script to set DISPLAY to :0.0
[09:38] <[Chameleon] > MachineScrew: I regularly find my firefox to have crashed.
[09:39] <[Chameleon] > MachineScrew: thank God for SessionSaver
[09:39] <nalioth> rellik2: did you preface it with the top line #!/bin/bash and make it executable?
[09:39] <MachineScrew> Chameleon: ya i know
[09:39] <rellik2> nalioth nope
[09:39] <gebharra> iceman: .mozilla/firefox/<some profile name>/bookmarks.html
[09:39] <nalioth> rellik2: that might be your problem
[09:39] <Calren> mshade, you around?
[09:40] <kcskyl> hi i'm trying to set up a launcher in gnome to run amsn, but it's not working.  Can anyone help me with this?
[09:40] <MachineScrew> Chameleon: SessionSaver ?
[09:40] <rellik2> nalioth it's just a one line script (export DISPLAY=:0.0)..  doesn't work, of course..  the idea is to turn off x forwarding to make the movie display on the monitor for the computer
[09:40] <gebharra> add the line to start the movieplayer to the script :)
[09:40] <rellik2> nalioth will adding #!/bin/bash fix it?
[09:41] <[Chameleon] > MachineScrew: it's an extension that saves all your tabs and even where you are scrolled on each tab and any data you have entered in input fields and can automgically restore it all when you restart firefox
[09:41] <[Chameleon] > MachineScrew: totally kicks donkey
[09:41] <rellik2> gebharra can't because I don't *always* want to use that monitor :)
[09:41] <nalioth> rellik2: all scripts need to have #!/bin/bash or #!/usr/bin/perl or whatever, and they need to be "chmod +x" so they execute
[09:41] <gebharra> unless he invoked using "sh"
[09:41] <MachineScrew> Chameleon: give me a link
[09:41] <gebharra> er he/she .. sorry :)
[09:42] <nalioth> rellik2: make #!/bin/bash your top line, and your display line your second line
[09:42] <rellik2> nalioth um it executes without the line (but with the +x)
[09:42] <rellik2> gebharra he :)
[09:42] <gebharra> problem is making the DISPLAY variable persist
[09:42] <rellik2> gebharra yeah
[09:43] <[Chameleon] > MachineScrew: it's # 18 on the top 20
[09:43] <[Chameleon] > https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&category=Popular&numpg=10&id=436
[09:43] <nalioth> rellik2: you want the display persistent? put the variable in your ~/.bashrc
[09:43] <gebharra> unless you add it to your shell inits (profile rc) source is the answer
[09:43] <kcskyl> I'm sorry but can anyone help me get my amsn started?  I tried following the directions in wiki but that didn't work for me...Thanks in advance!
[09:43] <gebharra> yep
[09:43] <rellik2> nalioth can't..  don't *alwasy* want it this way
[09:43] <MachineScrew> Chameleon I'll check it
[09:44] <hussam> the w32 codecs won't let me open QuickTime 7 files, are there any other codecs I can get?
[09:45] <johnw_> how do I increase screen resolution higher than max resolution in Screen Resolution Preferences?
[09:45] <nalioth> hussam: libquicktime0
[09:45] <frogzoo> gebharra, consider ~/.gnomerc
[09:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hussam about restricted
[09:46] <gebharra> frogzoo: that would work, unless we are in initlevel < 5
[09:47] <johnw_> I NEED TO INCREASE MY SCREEN RESOLUTION!
[09:47] <gebharra> i need a larger monitor
[09:47] <gebharra> :)
[09:47] <johnw_> it won't allow me to go more than 1024 x 768 :(
[09:47] <kcskyl> I downloaded the amsn and installed it into my /home/username/ , and in the command line for the application launcher put /home/username/amsn but the program does not run...i tried typing amsn into the terminal but that doesn't run the application either...it just says command not found.
[09:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell johnw_ about fixres
[09:48] <kcskyl> funny thing is that i see amsn in the same folder
[09:48] <gebharra> kcskyl: did you try chmod +x /home/username/amsn ?
[09:48] <nalioth> kcskyl: did you not like the amsn in the repos?
[09:48] <gebharra> prior to running it?
[09:48] <hochim> try ./amsn
[09:49] <nalioth> kcskyl: you should NOT download and install non ubuntu pkgs unless you have a good reason. amsn is in the repos
[09:49] <gebharra> agreed
[09:49] <kcskyl> nalioth, i thought that amsn works with ubuntu?
[09:50] <nalioth> kcskyl: amsn is in the repos as an ubuntu package
[09:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kcskyl about repos
[09:50] <nalioth> kcskyl: enable universe and multiverse and you'll find lots of interesting things
[09:50] <Bateau_> if i want to install TCL, what should i type? it didnt work wiht apt-get install tcl
[09:51] <[Kelly] >   <IRC>  
[09:51] <arafangion> Bateau_, Take a look at apt-cache search tcl | less
[09:51] <kcskyl> nalioth: i'm really new to this so i don't quite understand what you mean, but I'd like to get a chat program that works with msn...my girlfriend has msn so i'd like to be able to chat with her
[09:51] <nalioth> Bateau_: open synaptic and search for tcl
[09:51] <gebharra> bateau: or apt-cache search tcl
[09:51] <nalioth> kcskyl: installing non ubuntu packages is not a good idea, did you just receive a priv msg from ubotu?
[09:51] <gebharra> from a term
[09:51] <Bateau_> but when i search i get so many ressults, i dont know wich one to  take
[09:52] <[Chameleon] > MachineScrew: did you try SessionSaver yet?
[09:52] <nalioth> Bateau_: probably better to use synaptic
[09:52] <budluva> can someone explain the differences between wine, cvswine, winex, cedega to me? or are they all roughly the same except for cedega (used for games, not apps)?
[09:52] <gebharra> tcl8.3 should suffice
[09:52] <kcskyl> nalioth: yes, i did.  who is ubotu?
[09:52] <nalioth> kcskyl: ubotu is our info bot
[09:52] <kcskyl> nalioth: he he
[09:52] <frogzoo> budluva, they're all variants of the core wine development
[09:52] <MachineScrew> Chameleon : I installed it  now I need to crash it
[09:52] <MachineScrew> lol
[09:52] <Bateau_> nalioth: i dont have that option. i can only use console
[09:53] <frogzoo> budluva, there's also Crossover Office from Codeweavers (commercial)
[09:53] <gebharra> apt-get install tcl8.3
[09:53] <nalioth> Bateau_: install tcl8.4-dev
[09:53] <budluva> yeah heard of that before
[09:53] <Bateau_> oki. thanks :D
[09:53] <gebharra> there is also tcl8.0
[09:53] <MachineScrew> Chameleon ya you can make a registry key in windows to make windows crash on command
[09:54] <nalioth> gebharra: always recommend the latest version, cuz they are usually backwards compatible
[09:54] <frogzoo> MachineScrew, or just wait :)
[09:54] <gebharra> -dev tho? does that include the runtime?
[09:54] <nalioth> gebharra: it does
[09:54] <gebharra> cool
[09:54] <ColD_7> what software can i use to view animated gif file in ubuntu?
[09:54] <[Chameleon] > MachineScrew: if Microsoft ever made anything that DIDN'T suck, it would have to be a VACUUM!!
[09:54] <[Chameleon] > frogzoo: heh
[09:54] <ColD_7> i have several animated gif file but the animation wont start
[09:55] <matthew> salve, una domanda
[09:55] <Chousuke> I'm sure MS has made something that doesn't suck.
[09:55] <[Chameleon] > ColD_7: try a web browser, like FireFox.
[09:55] <wickedpuppy2> [Chameleon] their hardware are great
[09:55] <nalioth> wickedpuppy2: whose hardware?
[09:55] <ColD_7> [Chameleon] , thanks
[09:55] <[Chameleon] > wickedpuppy: that's because it's not theirs... they are usually made by logitech.
[09:55] <wickedpuppy2> M$
[09:55] <Chousuke> New windowses don't suck as much as the older ones, either.
[09:55] <kcskyl> nalioth: if i use the command apt-get to install a program, isn't that essentially comming from a repository?
[09:55] <nalioth> microsoft doesnt make hardware. they license their name
[09:55] <[Chameleon] > and re-branded.
[09:55] <matthew> hello
[09:55] <nalioth> kcskyl: it is coming from a repo, yes
[09:56] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: True, Windows XP and newer are the cream of the crap.
[09:56] <Chousuke> let's hope they keep improving
[09:56] <gebharra> so do i have to submit a request to MOTU for a terminal-based irc client or is there already one in plan?
[09:56] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: let's not... instead lets work to improve Linux.
[09:56] <nalioth> gebharra: what? are irssi and bitchx not terminal irc clients?
[09:56] <wickedpuppy2> gebharra , irssi
[09:56] <Chousuke> [Chameleon] : Those aren't mutually exclusive
[09:56] <gebharra> i didn't see bitchx
[09:56] <Chousuke> if MS improves, it's only good
[09:56] <nalioth> gebharra: enable universe and multiverse
[09:57] <Chousuke> because then Linux will have to improve further.
[09:57] <picca> anyone know how i can get my sound card (intel 82801DB) to work with ubuntu - it seems to have detected it but just no sound
[09:57] <gebharra> ahh, i see. don't have universe enabled
[09:57] <Chousuke> and Windows even more.
[09:57] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: If you're saying that competition is good, I agree
[09:57] <frogzoo> picca, it's in the ubuntu getting started guide
[09:57] <picca> okay thanks frogzoo
[09:57] <nalioth> gebharra: while your there, enable multiverse, too
[09:58] <Chousuke> and OS X will someday not be the best damn OS in the world in my opinion ;P
[09:58] <matthew> Hi, can I install a ProFTP server on a desktop version of ubuntu?
[09:58] <micampe> hello
[09:58] <Chousuke> Currently I prefer OS X over Ubuntu and Ubuntu over XP.
[09:58] <nalioth> matthew: of course
[09:58] <micampe> where can I find the mount options for usb devices? I want to remove the 'noexec' flag
[09:58] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: it will NOT?
[09:58] <frogzoo> matthew, have you searched the repositories?
[09:58] <epl> matthew: yes, you can install any package with synaptic
[09:58] <matthew> Yes, but no proFTP :(
[09:59] <Chousuke> Well
[09:59] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: I've used OS X a bit... I do like it, but I prefer Ubuntu.
[09:59] <Chousuke> Depending on what you do Ubuntu may be better.
[09:59] <frogzoo> matthew, sorry, no cigar - it's there...
[09:59] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: Ubuntu with xcomposite and my new video card has decent graphical bling
[09:59] <Chousuke> but on a desktop computer, OS X just rocks.
[09:59] <epl> matthew: the package is called proftpd and is in universe
[09:59] <Chousuke> I don't care about graphical bling
[09:59] <Chousuke> not at all.
[09:59] <matthew> ok :D thanx I'll have a look at it
[10:00] <frogzoo> matthew, check universe
[10:00] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: it is good for visual cues
[10:00] <gebharra> what about graphical *sound of a drum tap*?
[10:00] <zyga> micampe: I'm not sure really, the mounting happens as a part of hotplug
[10:00] <Chousuke> The day Ubuntu has quicksilver will be a day of celebration
[10:00] <nalioth> matthew: have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[10:00] <zyga> micampe: you could mout it manually and pass the required options
[10:00] <Chousuke> Katapult is a step in the right direction
[10:00] <Chousuke> now, take more steps :(
[10:00] <kcskyl> nalioth: what exactly is the difference between a "binary" and "source" repositories?
[10:01] <gebharra> yay
[10:01] <micampe> zyga, no, I'm sure it can be done automatically
[10:01] <[Chameleon] > kcskyl: source is software that has to be compiled, binary is already compiled.
[10:01] <nalioth> kcskyl: source repos have the raw source code (to build programs from) and the binary repos have "ready to run" software (already compiled from source)
[10:01] <zyga> micampe: I'm sure it can but I'm not familiar with hotplugs internals really
[10:02] <kcskyl> nalioth: thanks!!
[10:02] <Chousuke> [Chameleon] : I'm curious. What does Ubuntu give you that OS X does not?
[10:02] <micampe> zyga, I think the options are defined in hal policies
[10:02] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: I'm not in the kubuntu camp, so I'm not familiar with Katapult.
[10:02] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: I'm checking it out tho
[10:02] <wickedpuppy2> Chousuke freedom ?
[10:02] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: choice, freedom
[10:02] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: money in my bank instead of theirs
[10:02] <nalioth> Chambers`: katapult = alt-tab
[10:02] <zyga> micampe: hmm I think I've got it
[10:02] <Chousuke> Hm
[10:03] <zyga> micampe: I've got no usb memory stick to test it
[10:03] <nalioth> [Chameleon] : katapult = alt-tab (boy i hate those brackets)
[10:03] <Chousuke> [Chameleon] : anything else?
[10:03] <zyga> micampe: but take a look at /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi
[10:03] <micampe> zyga, are you looking in /etc/hal/fdi?
[10:03] <wickedpuppy2> Chousuke anything else more matters than freedom and choice ?
[10:03] <micampe> right :)
[10:03] <Chousuke> I consider OS X damn well worth paying for :)
[10:03] <micampe> zyga, that's where I'm reading too
[10:03] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: yeah, maybe once, but not every single release
[10:03] <zyga> micampe: it seems to be the spot
[10:03] <Chousuke> wickedpuppy2: What freedom do I not have when I run OS X?
[10:03] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: how 'bout just about any software I want for free in one place?
[10:04] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: how 'bout access to ALL of the source code?
[10:04] <Chousuke> [Chameleon] : that's nice :)
[10:04] <wickedpuppy2> Chousuke can i see the source ?
[10:04] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: ability to run it as a server, desktop or anything between
[10:04] <Chousuke> wickedpuppy2: sure, for some parts.
[10:04] <wickedpuppy2> Chousuke which part ?
[10:04] <Chousuke> Darwin
[10:04] <[Chameleon] > wickedpuppy: Darwin
[10:04] <Chousuke> Hmm, Safari too, I guess.
[10:04] <Chousuke> some kernel drivers.
[10:04] <Chousuke> misc stuff
[10:05] <micampe> Chousuke, only webcore and jscore, not the ui parts of safari
[10:05] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: meh, it's like a few small windows on a corporate sky-scraper.
[10:05] <Chousuke> the biggest non-free part is probably the GUI
[10:05] <Chousuke> But I don't really care.
[10:05] <Chousuke> as long as it works.
[10:05] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: and all the other apps
[10:05] <Chousuke> and it does, so I don't mind it being closed. :)
[10:05] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: like their new productivity suites.
[10:05] <Chousuke> And I get free unix tool apt goodness with fink
[10:05] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: that's fine, but I do.
[10:06] <Chousuke> [Chameleon] : are you a developer then?
[10:06] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: yes.
[10:06] <Chousuke> ok :)
[10:06] <kcskyl> nalioth: i found amsn in a repository...is there an easy way to install it using this?
[10:06] <kcskyl> nalioth: using the synaptic manager?
[10:06] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: my non-dev wife prefers Ubuntu to Windows and MacOS as well.
[10:06] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: I tried to get her a Mac, but she wouldn't have it.
[10:07] <wickedpuppy2> kcskyl if its in repo .. then use synaptic
[10:07] <Chousuke> 'k
[10:07] <Chousuke> But the greatest thing about OS X is not OS X :P
[10:07] <Chousuke> It's Quicksilver.
[10:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kcskyl about synaptic
[10:07] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: URL?
[10:07] <zyga> micampe: did it work?
[10:07] <matthew> Strange, I'd look for proftp with Synaptic but told me there were problems downloading from universe
[10:08] <matthew> but now there's no problem at all ...
[10:08] <Chousuke> Quicksilver is, to quote a friend, a "bloody marvellous" app. :P
[10:08] <matthew> in fact i've just found it :D
[10:08] <micampe> zyga, trying
[10:08] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: so wait, what does Katapult do that the Gnome Command Line applet doesn't?
[10:08] <nalioth> [Chameleon] : katapult = alt-tab
[10:08] <Chousuke> Well, I don't know
[10:08] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: it says here that you can type commands to launch apps
[10:08] <sorush20> firefox RC and thunderbird should be available in synaptic.. why are they not?
[10:09] <Chousuke> I heard it tries to be a qs clone.
[10:09] <nalioth> [Chameleon] : hmm, i've never seen that
[10:09] <Chousuke> but ATM QS has many more features.
[10:09] <nalioth> sorush20: they are
[10:09] <Chousuke> http://quicksilver.blacktree.com/
[10:09] <nalioth> Chousuke: y'all compare osx and ubuntu in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:10] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: Katapult was inspired by OS X and is no longer being developed.
[10:10] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: I think we're done anyway
[10:10] <kcskyl> nalioth: thank you sooooo much!  aMSN is running now.
[10:10] <Chousuke> [Chameleon] : Oh, darn.
[10:10] <Chousuke> I hope they get something.
[10:10] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: I'm glad you like OS X. I think it has many good merits, but it is not open enough for me.
[10:11] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: now that I've taken the "Red Pill" of Linux, I can't go back.
[10:11] <nalioth> kcskyl: please use synaptic to install anything you need, using non ubuntu things will not be good for your ubuntu
[10:11] <jtan325> why are you using amsn?
[10:11] <Chousuke> a Quicksilver clone is the one thing I would REALLY miss.
[10:11] <jtan325> gaim > *
[10:11] <Chousuke> [Chameleon] : I understand.
[10:12] <kcskyl> nalioth:  sure will.  is there a way to create a launcher for my aMSN on the panel so i don't have to run it in terminal each time?
[10:12] <Chousuke> Apparently QS is open source too
[10:13] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: I believe I've seen quicksilver in action. Does it come with OS X or is it 3rd party?
[10:13] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: hmm, interesting
[10:13] <nalioth> kcskyl: there is not one under "applicatons > internet"?
[10:13] <micampe> Chousuke, it isn't
[10:13] <nalioth> Chambers`: 3d party
[10:13] <Chousuke> :P
[10:13] <kcskyl> nalioth: he he.  my bad.  i'm so bad at this =p
[10:14] <nalioth> kcskyl: take your time, look around. help.ubuntu.com is a good place to go also
[10:14] <nalioth> kcskyl: let me point out: everything you see can be changed or configured differently
[10:16] <kcskyl> nalioth: i really like that about ubuntu.  i installed it because i wanted to start gaining more control over my computer rather than letting windows take control over me
[10:16] <nalioth> kcskyl: good man. stick with official ubuntu repos, and your system will run like a clock
[10:16] <jtan325> www.ubuntuforums.org too
[10:16] <kcskyl> nalioth:  thanks~
[10:17] <nalioth> jtan325: the wiki and the forums are linked from help.ubuntu.com
[10:17] <burepe> I installed the SCIM input method editor to type in Japanese, but it won't show up in the gnome tool bar. Any suggestions?
[10:17] <nalioth> kcskyl: anytime, dont be a stranger
[10:17] <jtan325> haha nalioth
[10:17] <jtan325> i've known nothing besides wiki and forums
[10:17] <jtan325> help.u must be a new thing
[10:17] <nalioth> jtan325: help.ubuntu.com is new
[10:18] <kcskyl> nalioth: to take your advice about not being a stranger, i have another question, he he
[10:18] <Chousuke> micampe: I thought it was.
[10:18] <Chousuke> Hmm
[10:18] <kcskyl> nalioth: i found the instructions for download amsn from this website, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75276
[10:18] <micampe> Chousuke, the developer says it will release the source 'sometime'
[10:18] <kcskyl> nalioth: is there a way to undo the changes i made following the directions there?
[10:18] <nalioth> kcskyl: dont follow the forums too closely
[10:18] <nalioth> kcskyl: lemme look
[10:19] <Chousuke> micampe: aha.
[10:19] <Chousuke> http://developer.imendio.com/wiki/GNOME_Launch_Box <- :o
[10:19] <nalioth> kcskyl: you did all that? and ran that script?
[10:19] <kcskyl> nalioth: thanks...i ask this because my aMSN isn't closing right now...aMSN windows turned into an overall greyish color when i tried to close, and is remaining that way
[10:19] <micampe> Chousuke, deskbar-applet is nicer and more advanced than that
[10:20] <kcskyl> nalioth: yes, i did
[10:20] <Chousuke> micampe: URL?
[10:20] <nalioth> kcskyl: my friendly advice: dont follow things you find in the forums if your machine isnt screwed
[10:20] <nalioth> kcskyl: use synaptic and remove amsn with it
[10:21] <kcskyl> nalioth: he he.  i'll keep that in mind.
[10:21] <kcskyl> nalioth: okay
[10:21] <micampe> Chousuke, live.gnome.org/DeskbarApplet
[10:21] <nalioth> kcskyl: there are "helpful" ideas in the forums that'll screw your box up quickly
[10:21] <jtan325> haha
[10:21] <jtan325> learn the command line
[10:22] <jtan325> and you won't freak out if X gets broken
[10:22] <micampe> zyga, it's not working...
[10:22] <Chousuke> micampe: That looks like spotlight.
[10:22] <micampe> Chousuke, spotlight would be beagle
[10:23] <micampe> Chousuke, that is more like QS or launchbar
[10:23] <Chousuke> I hope it'll be able to do more than just open stuff though.
[10:23] <burepe> What is the command to make gnome flash to update andy changes you have made without ending the session?
[10:23] <kcskyl> nalioth: is there a way to force quit my aMSN?
[10:23] <hejux> how much can a system administrator get if he got RHCE on the hand ?
[10:24] <Chousuke> QS is able to move files around, tag them, control iTunes, access FTP, send files by mail, and loads of stuff like tha.
[10:24] <nalioth> kcskyl: click alt-f2 and type xkill. immediately after, touch the amsn window
[10:24] <Chousuke> That's what I want to see on Ubuntu
[10:24] <micampe> Chousuke, one step at a time
[10:24] <Chousuke> Yeah, but I'm impatient :(
[10:25] <micampe> Chousuke, if you want to help speed it up the source is available
[10:26] <Chousuke> micampe: I wish I could.
[10:26] <micampe> Chousuke, oh, you can. everything you need is out there
[10:26] <Chousuke> However, I haven't learned enough programming yet.
[10:27] <micampe> Chousuke, what better way to learn than to do what interests you?
[10:27] <jtan325> quicksilver is supposed to be awesome
[10:27] <jtan325> or so i hear
[10:27] <Chousuke> First year in uni first programming course, and it's C++. :p
[10:27] <micampe> deskbar is in python too, so it's even easier
[10:27] <micampe> jtan325, it is
[10:27] <Chousuke> +,
[10:27] <Chousuke> yes.
[10:27] <Chousuke> Everyone who uses it seems to love it.
[10:28] <hyakuhei> !java
[10:28] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[10:28] <[Chameleon] > dangit
[10:28] <[Chameleon] > NetworkManager is retarded sometimes
[10:28] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: http://www.geekswebhosting.com/gallery2/paul/Linux/Screenshots/Ubuntu-5-10-Breezy-Badger/
[10:28] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: my desktop
[10:29] <kcskyl> nalioth: should i mark my aMSN for a complete removal?  if i do this, can i install it again immediately after?  also, does it undo the changes i made according to that ubuntu website?  thanks.
[10:29] <Chousuke> [Chameleon] : very nice.
[10:30] <[Chameleon] > Chousuke: thx
[10:30] <jtan325> [Chameleon] , is that shadowing via xcompmgr?
[10:30] <[Chameleon] > jtan325: yes
[10:30] <jtan325> and why are you using conky for system monitoring? http://conky.sf.net
[10:30] <nalioth> kcskyl: you have used one of those "easy scripts" from the forums and gotten the latest version of amsn
[10:30] <jtan325> *aren't
[10:30] <[Chameleon] > jtan325: can't tell from these shots, but it does a lot of other nice stuff.
[10:31] <jtan325> yea but i heard it's a little unstable at the moment
[10:31] <Chousuke> The only thing it's missing is QS.
[10:31] <jtan325> or at least kills resources
[10:31] <jtan325> same with gdesklets
[10:31] <picca> wow finally got sound working in ubuntu :)
[10:31] <[Chameleon] > jtan325: I got plenty of resources to kill
[10:31] <[Chameleon] > jtan325: :)
[10:31] <Chousuke> Seriously.
[10:31] <nalioth> conky roX0rz
[10:31] <jtan325> haha nalioth
[10:31] <jtan325> amen
[10:31] <jtan325> i converted nalioth a while back
[10:31] <[Chameleon] > jtan325: I'm not even using those gdesklet monitors any more
[10:32] <nalioth> conky isnt a *desklet
[10:32] <[Chameleon] > jtan325: mostly because they would throw my HD into a fit after power management took over
[10:32] <jtan325> [Chameleon] , try it, you won't be disappointed (hopefully)
[10:32] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: I was refering to the monitors featured in that screenshot.
[10:32] <[Chameleon] > jtan325: I will, thanks.
[10:32] <jtan325> it's super-low on resources
[10:32] <nalioth> jtan325: i ran across someone running torsmo t'other day
[10:33] <jtan325> lol
[10:33] <jtan325> you preached to them, right?
[10:33] <MachineScrew> [Chameleon] , gkrellm that is the way to go
[10:34] <MachineScrew> [Chameleon] , it may be old but it works well
[10:34] <[Chameleon] > MachineScrew: I used to use it
[10:35] <[Chameleon] > MachineScrew: I think I'll try conky
[10:35] <MachineScrew> [Chameleon] , conky ?
[10:35] <[Chameleon] > see buffer
[10:35] <jtan325> MachineScrew, http://conky.sf.net
[10:36] <[Chameleon] > MachineScrew: ... or see the Preacher
[10:36] <littlefae> Hello there people. :)
[10:36] <littlefae> I've a rather annoying problem I can find no solution for when attempting to boot a 'fresh' install of ubuntu.  Error Code 18
[10:37] <MachineScrew> [Chameleon] , is it in the repos ?
[10:37] <jtan325> don't use repos
[10:37] <jtan325> i'm working on getting the latest in there
[10:37] <jtan325> 1.3.1 is relatively old
[10:37] <nalioth> MachineScrew: it is, but listen to jtan325 he's the one that has brought it onto the world
[10:37] <jtan325> just download from conky.sf.net
[10:37] <[Chameleon] > MachineScrew: yes, but apparently we shouldn't use them.
[10:37] <jtan325> the one in the repos was compiled without xft support
[10:37] <jtan325> and other crap
[10:37] <MachineScrew> oh ok
[10:38] <jtan325> i have no idea why my sponsor did that
[10:38] <jtan325> so yea...
[10:38] <micampe> jtan325, does conky play nice with nautilus? better than the other similar thing, I mean?
[10:38] <MachineScrew> jtan325, so the deb it works
[10:38] <MachineScrew> on ubuntu
[10:38] <jtan325> yes
[10:38] <jtan325> i built it
[10:38] <jtan325> and i use ubuntu
[10:38] <jtan325> :-)
[10:38] <MachineScrew> cool I am installing it now as we speek
[10:38] <jtan325> i hope you mean the .deb off of sf's files
[10:38] <MachineScrew> yes
[10:39] <jtan325> micampe, to be honest, not really
[10:39] <jtan325> -o needed basically
[10:39] <hejux> this channel is always that hot!
[10:39] <geargolem> Has anyone had success with Shockwave and Mozilla on Ubuntu?
[10:39] <littlefae> So, what exactly is an 'Error Code 18'? :)  Comes up when grub does.
[10:39] <nalioth> geargolem: shockwave doesnt work on linux
[10:39] <geargolem> nalioth, what about flash 8?
[10:40] <[Chameleon] > geargolem: I think we're up to flash 7
[10:40] <MachineScrew> jtan325, how can I move it
[10:40] <geargolem> [Chameleon] ,  ok, thank you.
[10:40] <[Chameleon] > MachineScrew: did you try middle mouse?
[10:40] <[Chameleon] > MachineScrew: I mean, middle mouse button
[10:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell geargolem about flash
[10:40] <jtan325> MachineScrew, what?
[10:40] <jtan325> oh
[10:40] <MachineScrew> [Chameleon] , I kinda figured
[10:40] <jtan325> start it with the -o option
[10:40] <jtan325> to be in its "own window"
[10:41] <MachineScrew> oh ok
[10:41] <littlefae> What would cause it? :-|
[10:41] <MachineScrew> jtan325, ok
[10:41] <irvin> i want to configure a ppp connection this way
[10:41] <irvin> [internet] --->[server] ---->[modem] ---->[dial-in computer] 
[10:42] <irvin> and i don't want any ip to be set during negotation
[10:42] <nalioth> littlefae: we are not ignoring you, nobody has an answer for you atm
[10:42] <MachineScrew> jtan325, no luck
[10:42] <irvin> do i have to set noipdefault in /etc/ppp/options?
[10:42] <jtan325> MachineScrew, it doesn't let you move it?
[10:42] <littlefae> Well, at least you were finally able to say so. -_-
[10:43] <MachineScrew> jtan325, no it just sits on the lower left of the screen
[10:43] <jtan325> hmmm
[10:43] <jtan325> what wm are you using?
[10:44] <MachineScrew> jtan325, but if I right click on the taskbar entry it will
[10:44] <jtan325> oh yea
[10:44] <jtan325> i guess you're using metacity
[10:44] <jtan325> so it kinda works?
[10:44] <MachineScrew> jtan325, ya
[10:44] <jtan325> cool
[10:45] <MachineScrew> jtan325, now it would be cool if it could save it's postion if i where to close it and open it again without the -o option
[10:45] <MachineScrew> jtan325, is there a way I can tell it not to make a taskbar entry ?
[10:46] <jtan325> yes, don't do the -o
[10:46] <jtan325> and if you want to reposition it
[10:46] <jtan325> look at the config options
[10:46] <MachineScrew> jtan325, ok
[10:46] <MachineScrew> will do
[10:46] <jtan325> the online docs are on the site
[10:47] <jtan325> much easier to read than the man page
[10:47] <MachineScrew> ok i will check it out
[10:47] <MachineScrew> brb
[10:47] <poups> salut
[10:47] <jtan325> MachineScrew, more specifically,
[10:47] <jtan325> http://conky.sourceforge.net/config_settings.html
[10:47] <poups> quelqu'un pourrait m'aider pour installer java runtime environnment?
[10:48] <nalioth> !fr
[10:48] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[10:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell poups about javadeb
[10:48] <rhymes> is dapper drake quite usable?
[10:48] <nalioth> rhymes: atm, dapper looks much like breezy
[10:49] <ChrisW> oooh, lotsa people :-)
[10:49] <rhymes> nalioth: but it has more updated package, ain't it?
[10:49] <nalioth> rhymes: a couple of weeks worth, yes
[10:49] <[Chameleon] > rhymes: barely...
[10:49] <[Chameleon] > rhymes: have you even tried breezy yet? try it first and if it's not "bleeding edge" enough for you, upgrade to dapper.
[10:50] <rhymes> [Chameleon] : i use ubuntu currently from the first release, yes i have breezy
[10:50] <[Chameleon] > not bloody enough then?
[10:50] <nalioth> rhymes: you wouldn't be interested in LFS?
[10:50] <dampjam> I'm trying to compile a module for my kernel but the script says it cannot because the kernel was compiled with gcc3.4 but I am using gcc4, I am using the standard ubuntu kernel... how do I get around this?
[10:50] <rhymes> hahaha i'm a geek and a developer, like to be on the edge :)
[10:51] <nalioth> dampjam: install and use gcc-3.4
[10:51] <dampjam> ok... will that break things in ubuntu?
[10:51] <rhymes> nalioth: mmm my interests are around python world
[10:51] <dampjam> isn't 4.0 the default
[10:51] <nalioth> dampjam: not at all
[10:51] <nalioth> dampjam: you can have as many versions of gcc as you like installed
[10:52] <Marxist> does he have to export some values?
[10:53] <nalioth> dampjam: in the terminal you're using type "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" <enter> then do your compiling
[10:53] <dampjam> ok, thanks
[10:53] <f31n> hi ... may anyone tell me how i can reconfigure my xf68 ??
[10:54] <nalioth> f31n: are you using warty warthog?
[10:54] <f31n> no
[10:54] <nalioth> f31n: hoary and breezy use X.org for the xserver
[10:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell f31n about fixres
[10:54] <MachineScrew> jtan325, what dose Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" already registered at priority 0
[10:54] <MachineScrew> its at the bottom
[10:54] <jtan325> lol
[10:55] <jtan325> look at your .conkyrc
[10:55] <jtan325> it's reading stuff from  your xsession log
[10:55] <jtan325> and printing it out
[10:55] <MachineScrew> oh ok
[10:55] <MachineScrew> funny
[10:55] <f31n> exactly thats it
[10:55] <f31n> thank you
[10:55] <mars> is anyone using arCHMage? I can't install it
[10:56] <MachineScrew> is it possible to define coordinates for the window
[10:56] <nalioth> MachineScrew: sure it is
[10:56] <MachineScrew> an get rid of the flickering
[10:56] <MachineScrew> other than bottom_left or top_left
[10:57] <jtan325> try enabling double buffer for flickering
[10:57] <MachineScrew> I need it in the middle
[10:57] <MachineScrew> jtan325, ok
[10:57] <jtan325> experiment with your .comnkyrc
[10:57] <jtan325> *.conkyrc
[10:57] <phoenix_atlantis> I feel a little bit silly in asking this - but; If I would have a Notebook with windows installed (C and D drive) and would take the Ubuntu CD to install it, what would happend to the D drive... Otherway asked: Does the Installer only erase the C drive and leaves the D as it is?
[10:57] <MachineScrew> it is enabled
[10:58] <MachineScrew> but it dose say it dosn't work for every one
[10:58] <jtan325> yea
[10:58] <MachineScrew> I must be one of those
[10:58] <MachineScrew> lol
[10:58] <[Chameleon] > phoenix_atlantis: installer can do whatever you want. it can even resize C and/or D to make room.
[10:58] <jtan325> metacity tends to be problematic
[10:58] <MachineScrew> its awsome though
[10:58] <nalioth> phoenix_atlantis: the ubuntu installer will do what you tell it to
[10:58] <jtan325> (metacity = default gnome window manager)
[10:58] <jtan325> anyway, i am going to bed MachineScrew, talk on #conky if you need more help
[10:58] <jtan325> though there's only a few people around there
[10:58] <jtan325> have fun
[10:58] <MachineScrew> I love it no skinning just a console type windo
[10:58] <phoenix_atlantis> great, thanks!
[10:58] <MachineScrew> ok
[10:58] <MachineScrew> thanks
[10:59] <[Chameleon] > jtan325: thx
[10:59] <jtan325> np
[11:00] <KjetilK> I'm thinking about moving my desktop from Sarge to (K)Ubuntu
[11:00] <[Chameleon] > KjetilK: good idea
[11:00] <KjetilK> but I use it as devel platform too
[11:00] <KjetilK> :-)
[11:00] <antix> where is a good guide for internet sharing? routing..
[11:00] <[Chameleon] > KjetilK: so, ubuntu does that, too
[11:00] <KjetilK> so, I need things like apache1, libapache-mod-perl
[11:00] <[Chameleon] > :)
[11:00] <naceur> fr?
[11:01] <KjetilK> [Chameleon] : yup, cool!
[11:01] <nalioth> antix: firestarter is a program that can set up your ubuntu box for connection sharing
[11:01] <nalioth> !fr
[11:01] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:01] <[Chameleon] > KjetilK: it's in the repos.
[11:01] <antix> nalioth, ok I'll check it out thanks!
[11:01] <KjetilK> but can I get a CD-image somewhere of the packages not in the core CD?
[11:01] <nalioth> KjetilK: we have about 16,000 programs available
[11:02] <KjetilK> [Chameleon] : yeah, but my bandwidth could have been better...
[11:02] <aftertaf> KjetilK:  there is the dvd image.... will have a couple more i imagine
[11:02] <poups> fr?
[11:02] <[Chameleon] > !fr
[11:02] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:02] <KjetilK> aftertaf: yup, but, I haven't got a DVD player...
[11:02] <KjetilK> perhaps a jigdo file...?
[11:03] <aftertaf> KjetilK:  worth looking into... a jigdo for other cd images maybe yeah.
[11:04] <KjetilK> aftertaf: yup, that would help a lot... :-)
[11:04] <KjetilK> anybody seen such a thing....?
[11:04] <nalioth> kcskyl: you ready to keep cleaning your amsn mess?
[11:04] <kcskyl> nalioth: i'd love to
[11:05] <nalioth> KjetilK: one of the teams is working on a dvd of other pkgs
[11:05] <nalioth> kcskyl: is your amsn still hanging?
[11:05] <kcskyl> actually it's working okay now.  i tried reinstalling it.
[11:05] <robotgeek> kcskyl: why can't u use gaim instead of amsn?
[11:05] <nalioth> kcskyl: well good then
[11:05] <KjetilK> nalioth: right! But that means it is unlikely it exists yet?
[11:05] <nalioth> robotgeek: linux is freedome
[11:06] <nalioth> KjetilK: it does not
[11:06] <KjetilK> nalioth: OK
[11:06] <kcskyl> nalioth: but i did download a program called plan 1.9 online that i'd like to uninstall...can you help me with that?
[11:06] <nalioth> kcskyl: waht is that?
[11:06] <kcskyl> robotgeek: oh, because my girlfriend uses msn :)
[11:06] <robotgeek> kcskyl: gaim supports msn protocol
[11:06] <kcskyl> nalioth: it's a day-to-day planner
[11:07] <nalioth> kcskyl: how did you install it? got a link to the site?
[11:07] <kcskyl> robotgeek: so i can add my gf (msn user) to my buddy list?
[11:08] <robotgeek> kcskyl: you shud be able to do that
[11:08] <nalioth> kcskyl: gaim is a multiprotocol chat client, (one client, many protocols)
[11:08] <kcskyl> nalioth: i downloaded it from the website to my desktop, and the steps for installation were as follows: 1) cd src (2) run ./configure (3) run make
[11:08] <KjetilK> hmmm, idea: I have my dpkg --get-selections from my Sarge box, perhaps I could compare that to the packages on the CD?
[11:08] <nalioth> kcskyl: is that all you did?
[11:08] <kcskyl> nalioth: oh wow...didn' know that...
[11:09] <KjetilK> (automatically...)
[11:09] <kcskyl> nalioth: oh, and make install
[11:09] <nalioth> kcskyl: do you still have the directory you did all those things in?
[11:09] <kcskyl> nalioth: yup
[11:09] <nalioth> kcskyl: open a terminal in that directory, and try "sudo make uninstall"
[11:10] <robotgeek> KjetilK: export ur --get-selections to a file, then import it on your new box --set-selections.
[11:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kcskyl about checkinstall
[11:10] <robotgeek> KjetilK: i've never tried it, but let me know if it works :)
[11:10] <nalioth> kcskyl: and forget about "make install" use checkinstall instead
[11:10] <robotgeek> kcskyl: sudo checkinstall
[11:10] <nalioth> robotgeek: that is the bomb for goin from one box to another
[11:11] <KjetilK> robotgeek: yup, but my issue now is if I can use that information to download those packages to a system with higher bandwidth, and burn it, and bring it home... :-)
[11:11] <robotgeek> yup...i am keeping a list
[11:11] <robotgeek> KjetilK: i think you are looking for apt-zip and apt-move
[11:11] <robotgeek> KjetilK: they supposedly work, i have never used it first hand
[11:12] <kcskyl> nalioth: i tried sudo make uninstall and it says "no rule to make target 'uninstall'. stop"
[11:12] <robotgeek> kcskyl: have you deleted the source for plan 9 stuff?
[11:12] <nalioth> kcskyl: then you'll have to be happy with it in there
[11:12] <nalioth> robotgeek: there is no uninstall script
[11:12] <kcskyl> nalioth, robotgeek, is checkinstall the same as install?
[11:13] <nalioth> kcskyl: read the URL ubotu sent you
[11:13] <KjetilK> robotgeek: good point!
[11:13] <robotgeek> nalioth: no need, see..we can make the .deb, and then uninstall it. it will remove the files it puts there
[11:13] <KjetilK> I'll look into apt-zip
[11:13] <KjetilK> thanks guys!
[11:13] <kcskyl> nevermind. nalioth sent me the info
[11:13] <kcskyl> he he
[11:13] <robotgeek> KjetilK: np, and make a howto too :)
[11:13] <KjetilK> yup! :-)
[11:14] <nalioth> kcskyl: if you are gonna follow strange instructions, use "checkinstall" instead of "make install"
[11:14] <bloxa> regarding apt-zip - is it a Windows program? I have a fast internet connection at work, and would like to download large files there to install at home.  Is this possible?
[11:14] <kcskyl> robotgeek, nalioth: i do not recall deleting the source...
[11:14] <robotgeek> kcskyl: go to the directory, and do a sudo checkinstall then
[11:15] <nalioth> bloxa: not sure how you would do it with a windows box
[11:15] <robotgeek> bloxa: same here, not sure how you would do it with a windows box
[11:15] <bloxa> Maybe I can just download the deb's from somewhere individually, and then install them when I get home using dpkg?
[11:16] <kcskyl> robotgeek: it says checkinstall: command not found
[11:16] <nalioth> bloxa: does your windows box have 2 optical drives (one being a cd burner)?
[11:16] <nalioth> kcskyl: in a terminal, type "sudo apt-get install checkinstall"
[11:16] <bloxa> at home or work?
[11:16] <nalioth> bloxa: where your fast connection is
[11:16] <Boobek> hi
[11:17] <robotgeek> Boobek: hi
[11:17] <bloxa> No, not at work - I was planning to use a USB hard drive to transfer the files to my home computer
[11:17] <keke> Hi I am new here
[11:17] <kcskyl> nalioth: okay
[11:17] <[Chameleon] > keke: hi, you want a cookie?
[11:17] <nalioth> bloxa: ah in that case, a breezy livecd may be of use
[11:17] <robotgeek> :)
[11:18] <robotgeek> nalioth: interesting point. can u install programs on the live cd?
[11:18] <bloxa> nalioth: I have breezy installed.  Iwas thinking about all the universe stuff which I want to add :)
[11:19] <johnnybezak> hey guys i need to install java for some poker website. i'm on breezy on ppc
[11:19] <kcskyl> robotgeek: upon running sudo checkinstall, i get a message that reads: The package doc directory ./doc-pak does not exist. Should i create a default set of package docs? [y] : "
[11:19] <keke> I have installed apache2 on my server but I cant find the DocumentRoot, any help!
[11:19] <robotgeek> johnnybezak: ur are outta luck, until unless u use konqueror
[11:19] <robotgeek> kcskyl: y
[11:19] <nalioth> bloxa: yes you can install things onto the live session
[11:19] <nalioth> johnnybezak: wiki.ubuntu.com/javappc
[11:20] <nalioth> kcskyl: yes
[11:20] <kcskyl> robotgeek: it reads: installation failed.  aborting package creation. cleaning up...OK   Bye :
[11:20] <BeGu> hello evryone
[11:20] <robotgeek> nalioth: did you try the newer version of java from the ibm site? much faster for me
[11:20] <nalioth> robotgeek: what java?
[11:20] <robotgeek> kcskyl: can u pastebin?
[11:21] <nalioth> robotgeek: it wont say anything
[11:21] <BeGu> I'm using program called Gdesklets.. unfortunately it crashed... How can I force it to quit? some command?
[11:21] <bloxa> nalioth: So you mean I create my own live cd with all the added goodies at work and then install from that to my home computer? Can you do this?
[11:21] <kcskyl> robotgeek: sure.  i'll do it under "plan:"
[11:21] <nalioth> robotgeek: the 'make install' failed
[11:21] <kcskyl> "plan"
[11:21] <nalioth> bloxa: no. use the livecd to mount your usb drive and also to use "apt-zip"
[11:22] <robotgeek> nalioth: i tht he had the install complete?
[11:22] <nalioth> robotgeek: one time he did, checkinstall choked on the 2nd 'make install'
[11:22] <kcskyl> robotgeek: it's pasted under "plan"
[11:22] <robotgeek> nalioth: https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/iwm/web/preLogin.do?source=lxdk <- java 5
[11:22] <nalioth> kcskyl: got a URL?
[11:22] <kcskyl> yup
[11:22] <kcskyl> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4058
[11:23] <bloxa> I'll need to check out art-zip to see if it can be useful
[11:24] <kcskyl> nalioth, robotgeek: that message was received after i typed "sudo checkinstall"
[11:24] <robotgeek> kcskyl: okay...do a make clean in the directory, make and sudo checkinstall
[11:25] <nnonix> I'd like to add a "send via Bluetooth" option to my right click file menu in nautilus. Is there an easy way to do this?
[11:25] <kcskyl> robotgeek: do i need to apt-get clean?
[11:25] <nalioth_zZz> kcskyl: no no no
[11:25] <nalioth_zZz> kcskyl: in your build directory, type "make clean"
[11:25] <kcskyl> nalioth_zZz, robotgeek: i typed in make clean and it gave me "No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
[11:25] <kcskyl> "
[11:26] <BeGu> how can I force some Gdesklets to quit?
[11:26] <BeGu> -some
[11:26] <BeGu> :)
[11:26] <nalioth_zZz> robotgeek: that is some ***** source code he got hold of
[11:26] <kcskyl> nalioth_zZz: lol
[11:26] <bloxa> I am actually running breezy on half a USB drive (the other half is FAT32) - could I just boot off this at work and use apt-get as per normal? Only issue I see is the corporate firewall and doing it without people (ie. boss) getting suspicious. :))
[11:27] <nalioth_zZz> bloxa: that's perfect, if you have enough room on the stick
[11:27] <robotgeek> kcskyl: are you sure you are doing it in the directory?
[11:27] <bloxa> It's a drive - 30Gig
[11:28] <nalioth_zZz> bloxa: plenty of space, dont make the boss mad, though
[11:28] <kcskyl> nalioth_zZz, robotgeek: actually i think i wasn't fully in the directory.  i tried it in a subfolder src, and it gave me the following:"
[11:28] <kcskyl> nalioth_zZz, robotgeek: actually i'll pastebin
[11:29] <kcskyl> nalioth_zZz, robotgeek: it's pasted under "plan2"
[11:29] <robotgeek> kcskyl: you don't do it in src. (usually)
[11:29] <nalioth_zZz> kcskyl: we do better here with URLs
[11:30] <nalioth_zZz> robotgeek: it's all yours, good night
[11:30] <kcskyl> nalioth_zZz, robotgeek: notice i first ran sudo checkinstall then make clean
[11:30] <[Chameleon] > kcskyl: grep -E '.*\:$' Makefile.in
[11:30] <kcskyl> nalioth_zZz, robotgeek: oh okay.  the URL is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4059
[11:30] <[Chameleon] > kcskyl: that will tell you all targets
[11:31] <bloxa> I'll try it on Monday - hoping that apt-get traffic looks like normal traffic using standard ports (or whatever) to get through the firewall.
[11:31] <kcskyl> Chameleon: what do you mean?  sorry i'm really new to this...not sure what you mean by targets
[11:31] <raf256> what the fuck O_o ?
[11:31] <[Chameleon] > kcskyl: "clean" is a make target
[11:31] <raf256> it seems my 64 bit ubuntu can run 32 bit binaries \o/ is it normal on all 64 bit distros?
[11:31] <[Chameleon] > kcskyl: well, a typical make target
[11:32] <[Chameleon] > kcskyl: so you could typically type "make clean" and it will execute the "clean" process.
[11:32] <robotgeek> kcskyl: did it compile cleanly earlier?
[11:32] <[Chameleon] > kcskyl: that command will show you all targets, thus giving you some idea of what all you can do with that particular code using make.
[11:32] <kcskyl> robotgeek: do you mean when i first installed it?
[11:33] <Seveas> bloxa, apt-get is simply http...
[11:33] <kcskyl> Chameleon: oh, i see
[11:33] <bloxa> Seveas - cool - so it should not have any issues
[11:33] <robotgeek> kcskyl: i tht you compiled it successfully earlier?
[11:33] <nuck> hi what do i download for the complete c c++ reference for ubuntu? i downloaded c-cpp-reference but it seems some of the links for keywords arent there
[11:34] <kcskyl> robotgeek: you mean the checkinstall?  yes, i believe so"
[11:34] <robotgeek> kcskyl: no, i mean the plan 1.9 source. i thought you compiled it earlier successfully?
[11:34] <[Chameleon] > nalioth_zZz, robotgeek: seen "bulldozer"? It's a make extension for Nautilus. Rather interesting.
[11:35] <robotgeek> nuck: do u mean the man page references?
[11:35] <kcskyl> robotgeek: oh yes.  I did...sorry for misunderstanding
[11:35] <[Chameleon] > http://taschenorakel.de/mathias/bulldozer/
[11:35] <robotgeek> [Chameleon] : interesting, lemme simpy this :)
[11:35] <nnonix> How do I modify the right-click menus in nautilus?
[11:36] <nuck> robotgeek i mean any form preferable html based reference
[11:36] <robotgeek> kcskyl: if it doesn't take much time, just do the ./configure, make procuedure once again
[11:37] <bloxa> I'm out of here - Thanks guys for the help :)
[11:38] <irvin> i need help on configuring a dial-in server
[11:38] <[Chameleon] > bah! I just realized Azureus has been off for the last several hours... darn.
[11:38] <kcskyl> robotgeek: which option should i choose?  same as previous configureation?  factory defaults?  silicon graphics freeware?  debian linux standard?
[11:39] <robotgeek> kcskyl: what options are these?
[11:39] <irvin> i want to share connection to a home computer from a remote computer with broadband connection
[11:39] <irvin> the setup is like this: server dials home pc so that home pc can access the net
[11:39] <kcskyl> robotgeek: these options came up when i typed in ./config
[11:39] <CarinArr> hey, i could do with some help.. I'm trying to install breezy badger on my laptop (wiped my previous ubuntu, and windows installations and started all over.). Just installed a clean copy of windows, and now I'm trying to install Ubuntu. I have three partitions the first one being the windows partition, the second an ext3 linux partition and the third a swap partition, trying to install the base system i get the error: debootstrap exited with an error (return v
[11:39] <CarinArr> anyone know what the problem might be?
[11:39] <kcskyl> robotgeek: sorry, i meant ./configure
[11:40] <robotgeek> kcskyl: how did you compile it before? use the same options!
[11:40] <[Chameleon] > CarinArr: try disabling ACPI in the BIOS.
[11:40] <[Chameleon] > CarinArr: worked for my wife's laptop.
[11:40] <kcskyl> robotgeek: so sorry...got what  you mean.
[11:41] <kcskyl> robotgeek: okay, it's done
[11:41] <robotgeek> kcskyl: make also done?
[11:42] <CarinArr> ACPI? okay.. will give it a go
[11:43] <[Chameleon] > good luck
[11:43] <kcskyl> robotgeek: when i typed in "make" it gave me "nothing to be done for 'start'."...i don't recall seeing this before
[11:44] <robotgeek> kcskyl: err, i think this package plan is in the repos too. too late!
[11:44] <kcskyl> robotgeek: how do i ask ubotu to tell me about "make"?
[11:44] <[Chameleon] > !make
[11:44] <ubotu> [Chameleon] : Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:44] <kcskyl> robotgeek: geez...i should've known...
[11:44] <robotgeek> kcskyl: i dunno what's happening! i don't think ubotu knows about make!
[11:45] <[Chameleon] > seems to be the case
[11:45] <kcskyl> robotgeek: oh well
[11:45] <robotgeek> kcskyl: don't bother, it's not gonna mess with your system. just forget about it :)
[11:45] <kcskyl> robotgeek, Chameleon: oh okay.  Thank you both for helping me with this!
[11:45] <[Chameleon] > kcskyl: "nothing to be done for $target" means that it has already done that target.
[11:45] <[Chameleon] > it's being efficient
[11:45] <kcskyl> Chameleon: i see
[11:46] <[Chameleon] > not rebuilding what is already built
[11:46] <kcskyl> Chameleon, that bulldozer program looks pretty cool.  doesn't it do the same thing as synaptic manager?
[11:47] <CarinArr> i don't have any ACPI settings in my bios
[11:47] <ubuntudude> anyone got Epson Stylus C64 to work?
[11:47] <ubuntudude> it failes on my computer, should I file a bug report (where)?
[11:47] <kcskyl> Chameleon: or is it something i can use for programs outside the repository?
[11:48] <robotgeek> anyways guys, time to get back to work. cya all later
[11:48] <ubuntudude> is there some "better" (as in:  for more "hard" bugs) support for ubuntu? some mailing list or something?
[11:48] <[Chameleon] > kcskyl: no, it's nothing like synaptic.
[11:48] <[Chameleon] > kcskyl: it's like a GUI for make.
[11:48] <kcskyl> geez...ubuntu is sooo addictive...i'm gonna fail out of my school this year lol
[11:48] <robotgeek> ubuntudude: bugzilla not good enuf?
[11:48] <kcskyl> later robotgeek !
[11:50] <ubuntudude> wher is bugzilla for ubuntu?
[11:50] <ubuntudude> 1) epson c64 doesnt work
[11:50] <ubuntudude> 2) it do not install on my old laptop
[11:50] <digger3> Hi, anybody else has trouble getting the simpleserver to work?
[11:51] <digger3> uhm, I am talking about novell ifolder btw
[11:51] <pavel_> heloo
[11:52] <pavel_> is anybody there who use fluxbox and fbdesk?
[11:53] <kcskyl> Chameleon, thanks for all your help.  i feel like i learned alot today ^ ^
[11:53] <kcskyl> Chameleon, I'll talk to you later~
[11:53] <nuck> hi what do you guys use for c++ programming reference? thanks
[11:54] <[Chameleon] > nuck: google
[11:54] <CarinArr> it seems the problem with debootstrap was caused by using swedish keyboard settings
[11:54] <pavel_> need help with fbdesk and transparency, do not work :-(
[11:54] <[Chameleon] > CarinArr: interestin... be sure to file a bug
[11:54] <Revellion> pavel_: o_o
[11:54] <nuck> i have googled found c-cpp-reference but its kind of incomplete i.e. some functions it doesnt have for example gettimeofday
[11:55] <[Chameleon] > nuck: so google for "gettimeofday reference"
[11:55] <iceman> anyone have the url to installing the codec for video
[11:56] <shinkius> hello
[11:57] <nuck> no i mean i'd rather downnload a whole c c++ reference than always googling cuz im not always online
[11:57] <nuck> Chameleon
[11:57] <shinkius> could anyone tell me where from Ubuntu reads the manufacturer/model string, that is later used in /usr/share/acpi-support?
[11:57] <CarinArr> actually hold that.. it crashed further on instead
[11:58] <shinkius> ping?
[11:59] <[Chameleon] > nuck: oh, that sucks that you're not always online.
[11:59] <shinkius> ok, i found it
[12:03] <bluefrog-10> using echo -n ; read var  , user input sets up this variable, how can i clear it, pls?
[12:04] <vbgunz> Is there any way to redraw windows faster than currently available by default in Gnome?
[12:04] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: hardware
[12:05] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: what's your desired end result though?
[12:05] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: less flicker?
[12:05] <vbgunz> repaint is not as optimal as I think it should be
[12:05] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: look in GTK+ source and fix it
[12:06] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: you could try xcompmgr
[12:06] <jisao1_> Grub won't install on my box for Ubuntu.  Any suggestions (other than lilo?)
[12:06] <vbgunz> no tearing... I have a 256MB Nvidia Card and both nv, nvidia drivers provide near identical results... 1GBRAM 2.6p4... Do you think repait should be slow even when logging into Gnome-Failsafe?
[12:07] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: probably not
[12:07] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0150048402/linux/Multiple_Nvidia_Multiple_Head.html
[12:07] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: look toward the bottom for optimization stuff
[12:07] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DropShadows
[12:07] <vbgunz> Chameleon, thank you, repaint isn't exactly bad... just feel it isn't optimal
[12:08] <vbgunz> loading them up
[12:08] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: look there for xcompmgr stuff which might make it "appear" smoother, and with more blingage as a bonus.
[12:08] <vbgunz> xcompmgr: command not found... is it found in Synaptic?
[12:08] <[Chameleon] > yes
[12:08] <ompaul> jisao1_, "grub won't install" given it is part of the install process, can you tell us more, is the install failing? or was it there and then in came windows and it is gone?
[12:08] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: read that 2nd page first
[12:08] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: before you try running it
[12:08] <vbgunz> [Chameleon] : ok, let me begin
[12:08] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: it requires some configuration.
[12:09] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: which card do you have specifically?
[12:09] <vbgunz> [Chameleon] : read dropshadows first?
[12:09] <vbgunz> GeForce 5600
[12:09] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: other one first.
[12:09] <jisao1_> I have 5 oses on my system: windows, Debian stable, Kanotix rc11, Kanotix rc13, and Ubuntu should be 5th on hda12
[12:09] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: ah, I have a 6600 GT...
[12:09] <vbgunz> multihead
[12:09] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: yeah. I have a dual-dvi card.
[12:10] <ompaul> jisao1_, does Deb Stable own the grub?
[12:10] <jisao1_> It starts installing, then stops sayin it had encountered a fatal error. It happened on a jfs filesystem, and I tried a second time on a reiserfs.
[12:10] <vbgunz> I plan on ditching everything and upgrading very soon...
[12:10] <vbgunz> nice
[12:10] <ruiwen> bluefrog: $unset var
[12:10] <vbgunz> :)
[12:10] <jisao1_> Yes.  All the others are chainloaded
[12:10] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: http://geekswebhosting.com/gallery2/paul/Linux/Screenshots/Ubuntu-5-10-Breezy-Badger/
[12:10] <antix> can I use php4-mcrypt with php5 installed?
[12:10] <ompaul> jisao1_, okay so it is more like a failing install, what version of Ubuntu is it?
[12:11] <jisao1_> When I selected >Install grub on fdo<, it accepted the command, never asked for the floppy and existed with >apparent< success.
[12:11] <jisao1_> The one I got at ubz, 5.10
[12:11] <joao_> !fat32
[12:11] <ubotu> methinks fat32 is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[12:11] <jisao1_> Breezy Badger, I think it is called.
[12:12] <[Chameleon] > g'night all
[12:12] <antix> I tried mailing the maintainer of php4-mcrypt but no answer :(
[12:12] <vbgunz> [Chameleon] : thank yo man, nice setup too btw!
[12:13] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: thx. have fun!
[12:13] <vbgunz> ;)
[12:13] <jisao1_> Usually, I have no problem install distributions this way.  I am trying Ubuntu for a review, and I would like to report something else than 2 fails in a row.
[12:13] <ompaul> jisao1_, two kanotix rc editions sure your name is not kano? ;-) but back to your grub thing - I have not come across it before, I would add a section to menu.lst for the ubuntu partition and see if it agrees with ubuntu, it may be to do with riser something in the back of my mind says try it with ext3 but I am loath to say you must
[12:14] <jisao1_> Did the same with jfs.  I am not kano (I don't think he would be ruffled by a quirk from grub), but I know him.
[12:14] <ompaul> jisao1_, it was a joke
[12:15] <jisao1_> Sorry, my sense of humor did not get his 2 morning coffees.
[12:16] <jisao1_> the kind of entry where you have to know which version of vmlinuz you have and where?
[12:17] <ompaul> jisao1_, I'll pop it all in a paste bin hang on a se
[12:18] <SiMpLy> tach
[12:18] <ompaul> jisao1_, have a look at this url http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4060
[12:18] <jisao1_> ok.
[12:19] <ompaul> jisao1_, thats my setup - as you can see I have evolved it over time :)
[12:20] <jisao1_> Yes, I was wondering if you were sabdfl...
[12:20] <GNULinuxer> jisao1_: who?
[12:20] <ompaul> jisao1_, not a hope
[12:21] <ompaul> jisao1_, to be found at #ubz
[12:21] <poningru> jisao1_: sabdfl is at ubz
[12:22] <gwark> is there much difference between xfree86 + zorg for ati ?
[12:23] <ompaul> jisao1_, is as you know in canada - tad early for them?
[12:23] <jisao1_> That was a joke, ompaul.  ubz is in my town, buy the way.
[12:23] <SiMpLy> hm leute, hab da ne frage, ist der dns eintrag notwendig?
[12:23] <jisao1_> I am an early bird.  Do computing before going to work.
[12:23] <ompaul> jisao1_, I noted you said you got the disk there :)
[12:24] <CarinArr> if it doesn't work this time i'll.. scream
[12:24] <ompaul> jisao1_, well I have not had a coffee or any food its almost noon I better blow this pop stand
[12:24] <jisao1_> Visited twice. On Ubuntu Love day, and for a helping help topic.  All the others seem too advanced for a user.
[12:24] <jisao1_> ok.  Tx. I copied the menu entry and will try it later today;
[12:25] <ompaul> jisao1_, suggest you do ext3 if its still a problem
[12:25] <poningru> or reiserfs
[12:25] <poningru> aka reiser4
[12:25] <ompaul> poningru, jisao1_ already said that one is an issue
[12:25] <poningru> oh sorry
[12:25] <jisao1_> I will, because I really would like to finish this thing nicely:   http://linuxbasics.org/tutorials/during/distros/ubuntu/ubuntu_revisited
[12:26] <ompaul> poningru, doubt if it is an issue, send me a box of oranges
[12:26] <poningru> hehe
[12:26] <jisao1_> The bet is on.
[12:28] <ompaul> jisao1_, there are several users here who tend to be right up there with advice sorry I have no answer for you, have a good day
[12:29] <irvin> on iptables... how do i allow all traffic on the ppp0 interface?
[12:30] <burepe> Is there a command to list my internal ip address?
[12:31] <ompaul> burepe, ifconfig
[12:31] <burepe> thanks
[12:32] <ompaul> irvin,  --in-interface -i [!]  input name[+]   network interface name ([+]  for wildcard)
[12:33] <CarinArr> eureka
[12:33] <Madeye> hey, what shall I apt to get kde installed in ubuntu
[12:34] <ompaul> Madeye, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:35] <shinu> is there something similar to azureus just not java? or maybe a bit lighter?
[12:35] <ompaul> Madeye, assumption you have a working ubuntu, if not just get the kubuntu install CD
[12:36] <ubuntudude> wtf?
[12:36] <ubuntudude> is ther UML (user mode linux) for ubuntu?
[12:36] <ubuntudude> I see only user-mode-linux-doc!
[12:36] <nightswim> !repositories
[12:36] <ubotu> How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example soruces.list
[12:36] <ompaul> ubuntudude, no idea, afik some work has taken place with xen
[12:38] <ubuntudude> xen?
[12:38] <poningru> !xen
[12:38] <ubuntudude> anyway, so how can I get the UML working?
[12:39] <fanopnaic> !xen
[12:39] <ubuntudude> it is in debian testing distro
[12:39] <poningru> ubotu: xen
[12:39] <poningru> ubotu: xen
[12:39] <antix> pretty frustrating that php5-mcrypt is missing in breezy...
[12:39] <poningru> somethings wrong
[12:39] <ompaul> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-xen/
[12:40] <poningru> why is ubotu only doing per user msg info?
[12:40] <ompaul> ubuntudude, its a virtualisation thingy
[12:40] <poningru> !tell ubuntudude about xen
[12:40] <ompaul> poningru, its very long
[12:40] <poningru> ?
[12:40] <poningru> oh ic
[12:40] <ompaul> !+xen
[12:40] <ubotu> methinks xen is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/, or a bit tough to use with Ubuntu AFAIK.
[12:40] <poningru> !hello
[12:40] <ubotu> Hi, poningru!
[12:40] <poningru> gotcha
[12:40] <highvoltage> jo ubotu
[12:42] <ubuntudude> so xen is bettern then uml?
[12:42] <ompaul> ubuntudude, it is supposed to take less resouces
[12:44] <shinu> cant i add a debian repo in my sources.list?
[12:45] <[dEvIL-bOY] > hello
[12:45] <djtansey> is there a way to setup your server to have certain email addresses (on the server you host) automatically forward to external email addresses? Anyway to have them leave a copy _and_ forward?
[12:45] <deFrysk> shinu, better not
[12:46] <poningru> djtansey: you can just use an email client for that dude
[12:46] <shinu> deFrysk: i need rtorrent which isnt in the ubuntu repos:/ and thats too many dependencies to install :P
[12:46] <highvoltage> what is an ubuntero?
[12:46] <poningru> djtansey: not sure how to do that using an email server though
[12:47] <[dEvIL-bOY] > peeps i added this to/boot/grub/menu.lst  :splashimage (sda,6)/boot/grub/images/ubuntu.xpm.gz
[12:47] <[dEvIL-bOY] > but now i have no grub menu
[12:47] <djtansey> poningru: please elaborate. I am going on a two-week trip and won't have access to my computer, but I haven't setup any webmail interface on server, so I wanted it to forward all my email to my gmail account
[12:47] <arxonik> hi, is it possible to move the data on the ext3 partition to the end of the partition and then shrink the partition at the beginning?
[12:48] <deFrysk> shinu, I would set up a source repo of debian and apt-get source -build <thepackage> in that case
[12:48] <deFrysk> --build
[12:48] <shinu> deFrysk: ok thanks :)
[12:48] <poningru> djtansey: with thunderbird
[12:48] <poningru> you can do it
[12:48] <poningru> its a simple filter option
[12:48] <deFrysk> shinu, sucess not guaranteed tho :s
[12:48] <shinu> deFrysk: np :P
[12:48] <luke_> how do I get support for MP3s in XMMS?
[12:49] <[dEvIL-bOY] > luke_, install some codecs
[12:49] <deFrysk> !tell luke_  about mp3
[12:49] <[dEvIL-bOY] > hey what about splash screen for grub?
[12:49] <[dEvIL-bOY] > can anyone tell me?
[12:49] <arxonik> but the firefox filters work only when the firefox is launched
[12:50] <djtansey> poningru: don't see how that would help me if i'm not there to check the emails on my computer... but i'll look into it.
[12:50] <arxonik> what with the splash screen?
[12:50] <arxonik> thunderbird, sorry
[12:50] <poningru> djtansey: just have thunderbird running it will automatically do it
[12:50] <deFrysk> luke_, I think xmms supports mp3 by default in breezy
[12:51] <Arafangion> Ubuntu's some some *impressive* things on the desktop :)
[12:51] <Arafangion> BOoted the live-cd, everything worked *better than windows*
[12:51] <Arafangion> With zero configuration, save for my wifi key.
[12:52] <arxonik> no one knowledgable of the partitioning techiniques?
[12:52] <Arafangion> arxonik: In general there is no golden rule.
[12:52] <BooZee> hello all.  I have 2 HD on my comp. one for windows, one for linux.
[12:53] <BooZee> Can I mount the windows one for ReadOnly ?
[12:53] <luke_> thanks, installed the codecs and it works
[12:53] <arxonik> Arafangion: i don't need info on how to partition, but i would like to know, whether there are any advanced techniques you can use, like moving data within the partition, resizing the partition, and so on
[12:53] <luke_> yes BooZee, use the 'ro' flag
[12:53] <BooZee> luke_:  in what command?
[12:53] <luke_> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[12:53] <luke_> thers a guide on the wiki
[12:53] <BooZee> luke_:  what does nano do?
[12:54] <BooZee> o.k.
[12:54] <luke_> its a text editor
[12:54] <arxonik> BooZee: look at www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:54] <BooZee> !fstab
[12:54] <ubotu> methinks fstab is /etc/fstab is a real pain for new users. The fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[12:55] <BooZee> and if i'll do it with no flag, the windows HD will not be changed at all, right?
[12:55] <deFrysk> !tell arxonik about ubuntuguide
[12:55] <deFrysk> !tell BooZee about ubuntuguide
[12:58] <arxonik> you are all great help here, keep up the good work ;)
[12:58] <dooglus> the scottish 'daily record', a crappy sports tabloid, has published a review of ubuntu, strangely enough: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16329893&method=full&siteid=66633&headline=steve-lawson-s-games-and-technology--tech-heads---do-the-ubuntu--name_page.html
[12:58] <dooglus> but - can anyone find the link to page 2?  I can't...
[01:00] <yohan> im using grub and ive tried a hundred times to config it but i cant get it to work, i have a sda drive which boots with grub and i have a seperate drive (/dev/hda1) with windows, how do i add the windows file in the menu.lst?
[01:00] <concept10> anyone running firefox 1.5 RC1 yet?
[01:00] <dooglus> concept10: I am
[01:01] <dooglus> concept10: haven't had a crash yet, which is more than I can say for the beta
[01:01] <matthew> Hello, I'm trying to run Ethereal as a root but it doesn't start, it tells me " Could not set capabilities: Operation not permitted"
[01:01] <matthew> why?
[01:01] <concept10> dooglus, I hate that the old firefox starts when I launch a app, did you change the sensible browser pref?
[01:01] <concept10> !tell yohan about grub
[01:02] <dooglus> concept10: what do you mean?  I don't see the old one any more
[01:02] <nickrud> yohan, add http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4061 (or equiv) to the end of your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:02] <concept10> dooglus, thunderbird still launches the old version, I should just remove the deb
[01:03] <dooglus> concept10: I put "export BROWSER=~/programs/firefox/firefox" in my ~/.bash_profile, and ". ~/.bash_profile" in my ~/.gnomerc
[01:03] <nickrud> yohan, that will boot any variety of windows on hda1
[01:03] <dooglus> concept10: the BROWSER variable is used to tell apps which browser to use
[01:03] <dooglus> concept10: arrange for it to be set automatically, and you'll be fine
[01:04] <concept10> dooglus, okay, thanks for the tip
[01:04] <dooglus> http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/crash.htm doesn't crash the firefox RC.  that was the worst 1.07 / 1.50b1 bug I found
[01:06] <concept10> dooglus, its stable for me, i just needed to change that.
[01:07] <concept10> dooglus, what about flock?
[01:08] <MaTaKs> how can i view webcam on gaim-vv
[01:08] <lizhen> Hello!
[01:08] <Bateau_> hmm, howcome i cant configuer psybnc on my ubuntu?
[01:08] <MaTaKs> i can't view any image
[01:09] <dooglus> concept10: I didn't try flock.  when I first saw it, it was closed source, so I left it alone.  i heard that it's since become open source but I've not looked
[01:10] <dooglus> any idea what I've done wrong if I see "Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,7)" when I try to boot?
[01:10] <concept10> dooglus, it was always OSS, it was closed because of beta
[01:10] <dooglus> concept10: I'm not sure about that.
[01:11] <shaka> am
[01:11] <Bateau_> hmm, how come i cant make psybnc on my ubuntu? but eggdrop went just fine :/
[01:12] <MaTaKs> how can i view webcam on gaim-vv?
[01:12] <yohan> nickrud but that doesnt seem to work, do i need to edit devicies.map?
[01:13] <nickrud> yohan, that's the first time someone's come back and said that; is the bootable flag set on hda1?
[01:17] <CookedGryphon> how do i get amarok to play wmas?
[01:17] <CookedGryphon> i have3 w32 codecs and all the gstreamer packlages
[01:18] <nickrud> yohan, if it is (I'm not even sure if it's needed, I'm more of a lilo user) and you have (hd0) /dev/hda in device.map, and you still can't boot, well
[01:20] <Boobek> bye
[01:20] <dooglus> any idea what I've done wrong if I see "Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,7)" when I try to boot?
[01:21] <dooglus> (I'm using LILO, if that matters)
[01:22] <burepe> does anyone know how, or can recommend a faq, to set a static ip address?
[01:22] <nickrud> heh, Kernel panics are extreemely over my head. Stabbing, no proper module for the root file system? (that always got me)
[01:23] <liable> burepe: /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/
[01:23] <burepe> i don't clearly understand
[01:23] <dooglus> burepe: it's easy - just use the system->admin->networking tool - change 'dhcp' to 'static'
[01:24] <burepe> cool
[01:24] <liable> burepe: go to that directory in your filebrowser..
[01:24] <burepe> got it
[01:25] <burepe> is this something that would affect my isp? meaning would this make them mad or do I need their permission?
[01:26] <liable> burepe: wait, is this for a computer on a lan behind a router?
[01:26] <burepe> yeah
[01:26] <liable> burepe: then your isp has nothing to do with it.
[01:26] <burepe> cool thanks
[01:27] <k31th> can you upgrade ubuntu to the latest version from the command line ?
[01:27] <dooglus> burepe: you might make your router mad, or maybe your wife (if you happen to chose the same IP that she has been assigned by DHCP) but the ISP can't tell what IP you've got on your local net
[01:27] <k31th> like you can with CentOS ?
[01:27] <dooglus> k31th: sure.  what version do you have now?
[01:28] <aimaz> k31th, you can do it by changing the apt/sources.list and the apt-get dist-upgrade ing
[01:28] <aimaz> whether that is the the reccomended method i don't know
[01:28] <dooglus> aimaz: I guess you'd have to apt-get update first?
[01:28] <aimaz> yeah
[01:29] <dooglus> aimaz: and I've heard that you shouldn't "skip" any versions...  warty -> breezy fails if you don't visit hoary on the way.
[01:29] <aimaz> oh right, I'm too new to ubuntu to have used warty
[01:29] <k31th> dooglus: im just thinking in advance
[01:30] <dooglus> aimaz: me too.  but apparently all the x.org stuff got moved around between hoary and breezy, which for some reason messes you up if you go straight from warty to breezy.
[01:30] <k31th> as if im going to stop using CentOS in replace  for ubuntu i need to be able to stay current from ssh
[01:30] <dooglus> k31th: don't worry - you can.
[01:30] <k31th> kool
[01:30] <dooglus> k31th: if all you want to do is keep up with security fixes, that's very easy.  you can do it from a crontab if you like
[01:30] <Seveas> CentOS lol....
[01:31] <dooglus> CentOS isn't funny Seveas - it's about the only free way of running a lot of commercial apps
[01:31] <k31th> Seveas: i recognise your username
[01:31] <MaTaKs> how to view webcam on gaim-vv?
[01:32] <eeaaxx> is apt-get supports resume download?
[01:32] <Seveas> k31th, that's possible, I recognize yours too :)
[01:32] <propagandhi> what commercial apps does centos provide?
[01:32] <Seveas> eeaaxx, it should
[01:32] <burepe> Can someone tell me what I should put for the gateway address when making a static ip? is that the router address? so it would me in my case 192.168.0.1?
[01:32] <iceman> Anyone know a link or howto make gnome windows transparent
[01:32] <k31th> Seveas: your the GNU Fish And Chips guy ?
[01:32] <dooglus> burepe: probably.  type "route" in a shell
[01:32] <eeaaxx> Seveas: ?
[01:32] <propagandhi> burepe: the routers
[01:33] <burepe> ok
[01:33] <dooglus> burepe: the router's IP is right after the word 'default'
[01:33] <burepe> yeah! thanks
[01:33] <Seveas> k31th, :))
[01:33] <dooglus> (is there a better way of getting the router's IP?  like from ipconfig or something?)
[01:34] <k31th> Seveas: im going to the chip shop ina  min do you want any thing ?
[01:34] <liable> burepe: go to /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/ its explained, also man ifconfig, man interfaces
[01:34] <dooglus> i*f*config I mean!  (giving away my windows roots there!)
[01:34] <k31th> ill DCC them over to you
[01:37] <iceman> how do you set transparent windows in gnome ?
[01:38] <rene_> bonjour je suis nouveau ici
[01:39] <burepe> I am following a windows faq to forward ports and on the part where you set the static ip there is also the dns severs. I am using the gnome gui right now and under dns servers it just has the routers 192.168.0.1? Do i need to enter the dns servers? Where would I find them?
[01:39] <rene_> et j'ai un problme pour connecter tora sur la meme machine que oracle server
[01:40] <rene_> quelqu'un peut me renseigner ?
[01:41] <lillis> ger
[01:41] <lillis> neger
[01:42] <lillis> ddsasadsad
[01:42] <lillis> dsd
[01:42] <lillis> as
[01:43] <dooglus> !fr
[01:43] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[01:43] <propagandhi> burepe: your router should be getting the dns servers from your ISP, they should be listed in the router setting
[01:43] <burepe> thanks
[01:43] <CaNsA> why wont my firmware load for my usb modem?
[01:44] <dooglus> burepe: you don't need to change the dns settings.  if the router is working as a DNS server when you use DHCP,it'll keep working when you switch to static
[01:44] <propagandhi> burepe: you can set them on your machine also, it might make some difference, but ultimately your router gets them anyway
[01:44] <burepe> ok thanks
[01:44] <CaNsA> usb 1-2: stage 1 firmware not found!
[01:45] <dooglus> burepe: the good thing about leaving your Linux setup using the router for DNS is that if your ISP changes their DNS servers, you don't need to fix your Linux setup.
[01:45] <Rawplayer> re
[01:45] <CaNsA> oops i mean - usb 1-2: no stage 1 firmware found!
[01:45] <burepe> now I have to put the network down and up to reset it right? eth0 down?
[01:45] <burepe> thanks dooglus
[01:46] <burepe> thats my dads name i like your spelling of it
[01:46] <dooglus> burepe: just clicking 'ok' on that network dialog should bounce the network for you
[01:46] <dooglus> :)
[01:46] <burepe> ok
[01:47] <BooZee> how can I see hebrew subtitles in totem?
[01:47] <dooglus> burepe: otherwise: "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[01:47] <dooglus> BooZee: wow, that's hopeful :)  I can't even get Czech subtitles to work, and that's only a few letters different than good ole' american english
[01:47] <MasterYuri> hi all
[01:47] <MasterYuri> :)
[01:48] <CaNsA> burepe, u seem to know what ur talking about
[01:48] <CaNsA> why wont my firmware load for my usb modem?
[01:48] <CaNsA> usb 1-2: no stage 1 firmware found!
[01:49] <MasterYuri> do you know if I can configure the position of the screen?
[01:49] <MasterYuri> not using the monitor, but using linux
[01:49] <BooZee> what program do you use to see movies?
[01:50] <burepe>  oooh, I don't know. I have a japanese router and it is missing a function that the same model in english has so I was thinking about updating my firmware in english but i know i would mess it up
[01:50] <WildZeck> MasterYuri, xvidtune
[01:50] <burepe> actually all these people here know a lot more than me
[01:50] <pl_ice> hi
[01:51] <dooglus> BooZee: for DVDs, xine(totem).  for anything else: mplayer-nogui
[01:51] <BooZee> dooglus:  why nogui?
[01:51] <ompaul> !tell BooZee about restricted
[01:51] <ompaul> BooZee, that will tell you about codecs
[01:52] <pl_ice> u guys know a program, that when i open www and there are many files to d/l so that it grabes them all and d/l them ...?
[01:52] <BooZee> ompaul:  I already read that, and did almost what it said to do..
[01:52] <dooglus> BooZee: I always found the gui to be horribly clunky.  it's a video player - all I need to be able to do is pause, skip back, skip forward, change volumne and quit.  that's all available which watching the movie without putting anything on screen.
[01:52] <dooglus> BooZee: my girlfriend gets annoyed if a gui interrupts the film y'see :)
[01:53] <BooZee> but there's must be a FullScreen feature...
[01:53] <dooglus> BooZee: sure.  'f' is fullscreen
[01:53] <BooZee> so what's the prob?
[01:53] <dooglus> I just don't need a gui I guess.
[01:53] <BooZee> o.k.
[01:54] <CaNsA> i thought f is for " ffs, im gonna smash this fikun machine if it dont fukin werk by tonight"
[01:54] <dooglus> same as how I don't use nautilus maybe.  I don't see the point of scanning an array of icons for the file I want when I can just type the first letter of its name and hit <tab>...
[01:56] <theD3viL> how to mount .bin file??
[01:56] <burepe> can I have 1 comp setup with a static ip and the other comps on my network using dhcp?
[01:56] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[01:56] <EnsignRedshirt> Has anyone had the "Quit" menu option stop working in Firefox?
[01:57] <CaNsA> yeah burepe, i dont see why not
[01:57] <burepe> cool
[01:57] <burepe> thanks
[01:57] <CaNsA> im glad to more help to u.... than u are to me :P
[01:57] <Seveas> theD3viL, convert it to iso with bchunk
[01:58] <Seveas> and then mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint
[01:58] <EnsignRedshirt> It is very strange.  I can use "Close" to exit Firefox, but Quit does nothing.  I'm not sure when it stopped working.
[01:58] <theD3viL> Seveas, the whole game (q3) ?
[01:58] <Seveas> theD3viL, you can also burn it...
[01:59] <theD3viL> i know....
[02:01] <Durin_II> Hi! My mousewheel in ubuntu scrolls perfectly if it is pressed and scrolled, without pressing it, it is a bit jerky? anybody has the same problem? (5.10 + logitech mouse)
[02:02] <BooZee> hmm... that's wierd - when i hit the f button, i get a full screnn (blank) and the movire stays in it's original size...
[02:02] <BooZee> dooglus:  hmm... that's wierd - when i hit the f button, i get a full screnn (blank) and the movire stays in it's original size...
[02:03] <NigelS> 99
[02:04] <EnsignRedshirt> BooZee: Sorry to interrupt... are you talking about mplayer?
[02:04] <raphink>  Now playing : Barry Sisters - Bei Mir Bist Du Shain
[02:04] <BooZee> EnsignRedshirt:  yep
[02:04] <EnsignRedshirt> BooZee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76423
[02:05] <neotrophy> I'm trying to rebuild the alsa modules to support a card that isn't compiled into the main distro.  I've got the kernel source and alsa module source installed, and I'm following the directions in /usr/share/doc/alsa-source/README.debian, but I keep getting "No such file or directory" on a bunch of headers.  Can anyone help?
[02:05] <CaNsA> usb 1-2: no stage 1 firmware found!
[02:05] <CaNsA> why wont my firmware load for my usb modem?
[02:05] <CaNsA> it there
[02:05] <bigfoot1> if you use opensync, say "I use opensync, bigfoot1"
[02:05] <CaNsA> its*
[02:05] <neotrophy> Do you have the firmware?
[02:05] <neotrophy> It's in the right place?
[02:06] <CaNsA> yeah
[02:06] <CaNsA> and ive updated the firmware_agent
[02:06] <aftertaf> bigfoot1:  rofl :)
[02:06] <CaNsA> firmware.agent*
[02:06] <aftertaf> i like your way of seeking attention, man ;)
[02:07] <aftertaf> neotrophy:  have you installed build-essential
[02:07] <neotrophy> I thought so... I'll check though
[02:08] <neotrophy> aftertaf: Looks like that might be it! :)
[02:08] <bigfoot1> aftertaf: i was cutting down on smart aleck responses
[02:08] <aftertaf> neotrophy:  ;)
[02:08] <BooZee> how can I preserve the ratio in Mplayer when going on full screen?
[02:08] <neotrophy> Windows trashed my root partition, I had to reinstall, so I must have forgotten build-essentials
[02:09] <frogzoo> neotrophy, Windows trashed root? or just the MBR ?
[02:09] <neotrophy> frogzoo: root.  I formatted the wrong partition
[02:10] <neotrophy> sorry.. it did
[02:10] <neotrophy> not me... I told it to format G:(/dev/hdb1), it formatted C: (/dev/hda1)
[02:10] <dooglus> burepe: make sure that your static IP address isn't in the range that the router assigns with DHCP
[02:11] <frogzoo> that was helpful ;)
[02:11] <neotrophy> I was most unimpressed
[02:11] <frogzoo> I dare say
[02:11] <rick_> I have a question if anyone has time?
[02:11] <frogzoo> rick_, just leap in - don't ask to ask, just ask
[02:11] <[A] ndy80> hi
[02:12] <frogzoo> What's Gnome/Ubuntu's stock CD burning app?
[02:12] <rick_> i was to stop undateb from running or make it run once a week
[02:12] <neotrophy> Most of us have time... Not necessarilly answers :)
[02:12] <[A] ndy80> My webcam is recognized by Linux: V4L2 device /dev/video0 deregistered, but GnomeMeeting cannot find the device... how can I fix this problem?
[02:12] <frogzoo> rick_, undateb ????
[02:12] <rick_> updateb sorry
[02:12] <dooglus> updatedb
[02:13] <rick_> updatedb
[02:13] <rick_> it is a cronjob that runs daily
[02:13] <dooglus> rick_: "sudo mv /etc/cron.daily/slocate /etc/cron.weekly"
[02:13] <rick_> seems to be locking gnome on me
[02:14] <frogzoo> dooglus, don't you have do edit the cron file?
[02:14] <BooZee> how can I preserve the width*height ratio in Mplayer when going on full screen?
[02:14] <dooglus> frogzoo: no, it's not run by cron, but by anacron
[02:15] <frogzoo> dooglus, ah, thx
[02:15] <dooglus> frogzoo: otherwise if you never had the PC switched on at 7:30 am it would never run
[02:15] <Mestules> somebody know because when i begin burn image of dvd gnomebaker says: error mounted?
[02:15] <neotrophy> Is anacron the reason that my personal crontab jjob doesn't work?
[02:16] <dooglus> frogzoo: look at /etc/anacrontab to see how it gets run daily / weekly
[02:16] <frogzoo> neotrophy, nope - cron will run it
[02:16] <neotrophy> hmmm
[02:16] <dooglus> neotrophy: probably not.  cron runs too...  it's cron that runs anacron each morning for instance...
[02:16] <frogzoo> dooglus, yar, snooping now
[02:16] <cansa_> see ive done this but it still gives me a  usb 1-2: no stage 1 firmware found! error at me
[02:17] <libin> 
[02:17] <BooZee> help on mplayer: how can I preserve the width*height ratio when going on full screen?
[02:17] <rick_> has anyone ever mentioned this was causing problems in gnome?
[02:17] <bigfoot1> guys, i'm looking to download and install a package from http://www.opensync.org/wiki/download. Packages are available as  source tarballs, debian packages, or as "subversion." which kind should i get? The newest debian is called libopensync_0.14-1_i386.deb and the newest source tarball is libopensync-0.17.tar.gz. Should i go for the .17.tar.gz source, or go with the easier to install but older debian?
[02:17] <mtupper> hey all, can someone help me determine the root directory for apache2?  i see in the services that it is up, and i thought it was at: /var/www/
[02:17] <neotrophy> mtupper: It was last time I looked on my system
[02:18] <rick_> thanks for the help dooglus
[02:19] <neotrophy> mtupper: What makes you think that it's not /var/www?
[02:19] <coz> Hello All
[02:19] <Bateau_> mtupper: if you installed apache with apt-get, it should be there?
[02:19] <fdr_> hi... I'm trying to install ubuntu 5.10 on a friend's laptop (fujitsu-siemens amilo A1630) but the installer hangs right before starting the partitioning utility... what could it be? I've already tried booting the kernel with acpi=off noapic nolapic
[02:19] <fdr_> thank you
[02:19] <frogzoo> mtupper, it is I believe, /var/www
[02:19] <dooglus> bigfoot1: I'd go for the recent .tar.gz and compile it myself.
[02:20] <neotrophy> It definitely is /var/www/ on my system
[02:21] <dooglus> mtupper: httpd.conf should tell you I think (don't have apache installed here though)
[02:21] <Moorenkopf> I set up Ubuntu 5.10 "server" and wanted wo install xorg and fluxbox. so I did "sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg fluxbox", but there's no "startx". what am I to do?
[02:22] <dooglus> Moorenkopf: startx is in package 'xinit'
[02:22] <dooglus> Moorenkopf: hopefully xinit depends on the whole X shebang
[02:22] <mtupper> ok, so why when I installed apache, it put a directory called apache2-default in the /var/www/ directory?  after installing and turning up the apache2 service, I expected to go to http://localhost/ and see the classic apache 'it worked!' page...
[02:22] <Moorenkopf> do I need any more packages like xinit to run fluxbox fine? :D
[02:23] <dooglus> Moorenkopf: I don't know.  one way to find out is to install xinit and its dependancies and see what happens...
[02:23] <neotrophy> mtupper: If you go into apache-default, you'll get something along the lines of "It Worked"
[02:23] <infowolfe> lol @ there are no breezy backports...
[02:23] <dooglus> Moorenkopf: you'll need /usr/bin/X for sure - that's in "xserver-common"
[02:24] <knoop> hi
[02:24] <otto_> oh hi
[02:24] <Moorenkopf> dooglus: got it
[02:24] <frogzoo> is there an easier way to burn a CD than cdrecord?
[02:24] <mtupper> i tried http://localhost/apache2-default/ and got a connection refused error
[02:24] <theD3viL> Seveas, and how to burn .bin file ?
[02:24] <infowolfe> mtupper, /etc/init.d/apache* start?
[02:25] <infowolfe> theD3viL, does it come with a .cue file?
[02:25] <knoop> I have a boot partition in /dev/sda1, it has BOOT flag and files copied (cp -ar) from a working boot partition (hda1), but system do not boot from it at all. how to fix it - how to recreate the MBR of /dev/sda1?
[02:25] <Rockett18> frogzoo> you could try k3b if you don't mind installing the kde libraries
[02:25] <infowolfe> frogzoo, xcdroast?
[02:25] <theD3viL> infowolfe, no
[02:25] <frogzoo> infowolfe, wins the cigard :) thx
[02:25] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i'm trying to install mplayer but it says to make sure i have the repositories enabled
[02:25] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ??
[02:25] <theD3viL> marilla
[02:25] <theD3viL> t
[02:26] <[dEvIL-bOY] > does anyone knows which repository is mplayer located?
[02:26] <theD3viL> [dEvIL-bOY] , marillat on google
[02:26] <infowolfe> [dEvIL-bOY] , universe or multiverse, if you don't know what sources.list is, maybe you should go back to windows ;-)
[02:26] <dooglus> [dEvIL-bOY] : it's in multiverse
[02:27] <[dEvIL-bOY] > f%$^ windows
[02:27] <[dEvIL-bOY] > linux rulles
[02:27] <frogzoo> infowolfe, them's fighten words...
[02:27] <dooglus> [dEvIL-bOY] : you can tell by typing "apt-cache policy mplayer-686" - ah - but that probably only works if you have multiverse already enabled
[02:27] <_jason> ubotu:  tell [dEvIL-bOY]  about mplayer
[02:28] <rockviech> hey guys
[02:28] <rockviech> has anybody already installed gdesklet in here?
[02:28] <infowolfe> frogzoo, i stopped supporting lusers a long time ago... maybe more people should buy apples... but wait, nevermind, that's not a good alternative anymore
[02:28] <rockviech> need some help with it
[02:28] <bigfoot1> dooglus: is it easy to compile stuff?
[02:28] <mtupper> infowolfe, tried that, negative.
[02:28] <dooglus> bigfoot1: depends on the stuff...
[02:28] <infowolfe> bigfoot1, http://www.gentoo.org (it's where you compile the whole distro ;-) )
[02:29] <infowolfe> mtupper, netstat -alnp | grep 80
[02:29] <dooglus> bigfoot1: it's easy to compile ubuntu source packages - with a single command (dpkg-buildpackage)
[02:29] <Madeye> guys, I'm using ubuntu, and I'm apting kubuntu-desktop for testing, now it's asking me to choose which display manager to go with, and the question is 'can I run KDE with GDM' ?
[02:29] <infowolfe> should only show 1 thing listening on 0.0.0.0/80
[02:29] <dooglus> bigfoot1: but stuff that's not packaged for ubuntu can be as tricky as it likes - it really depends on the program
[02:29] <bigfoot1> dooglus, how about opensync
[02:29] <bigfoot1> ?
[02:29] <infowolfe> Madeye, yup... beauty of modular software design, huh? your display manager and window manager are *gasps* different things
[02:29] <dooglus> bigfoot1: never heard of it :)
[02:30] <rockviech> if someone has installed some plugins for the desktop, like a launcher or starterbar, plz contact me, need some help with it
[02:30] <neotrophy> Madeye: Yes you can run KDE from GDM..,
[02:30] <dooglus> I'm off to try this kernel I just built.  might be back soon :)
[02:30] <benkong2> why doe this give a permission denied error? "sudo echo 'pwcheck_method: saslauthd' >> /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf"
[02:30] <neotrophy> Madeye: I personally prefer KDM, but that's just me
[02:30] <benkong2> why does this give a permission denied error? "sudo echo 'pwcheck_method: saslauthd' >> /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf"
[02:30] <Madeye> neotrophy, infowolfe , hmm then which is better to run gnome/kde with KDM or GDM ? what are pros/cons
[02:30] <infowolfe> benkong2, type sudo su - (then your password)
[02:31] <benkong2> infowolfe; thanks
[02:31] <infowolfe> Madeye, the beauty is, it doesn't matter, i prefer xdm myself.
[02:31] <fdr> hi... I'm trying to install ubuntu 5.10 on a friend's laptop (fujitsu-siemens amilo A1630) but the installer hangs right before starting the partitioning utility... what could it be? I've already tried booting the kernel with acpi=off noapic nolapic   Thank you!
[02:31] <theD3viL> How to burn bin with cdrdao?
[02:31] <infowolfe> benkong2, then you can echo into the file, although, i prefer nano, myself (quick, simple, easy to use)
[02:31] <infowolfe> theD3viL, try google.com
[02:31] <neotrophy> Madeye: It's all a matter of preference.  I like the console login option that's with kdm.  Plus, it also blends nicely in when KDE starts
[02:31] <mtupper> infowolfe, says all CONNECTED...  i assume thats good
[02:32] <infowolfe> mtupper, pastebin?
[02:32] <mtupper> sorry?
[02:32] <mtupper> i put that in the CLI?
[02:32] <Madeye> neotrophy, okay i'll use kdm, if I decided to switch back to gdm, how to switch back?
[02:32] <infowolfe> mtupper, see the topic, and paste the output of that command into a pastebin so i can see wtf you're talking about.
[02:32] <[dEvIL-bOY] > can't do it
[02:32] <[dEvIL-bOY] > damn..
[02:32] <infowolfe> Madeye, dpkg-reconfigure <pkgspec>
[02:33] <neotrophy> Madeye: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[02:33] <[dEvIL-bOY] > trying to stream something from a website but it doesnt work
[02:33] <infowolfe> [dEvIL-bOY] , have you edited sources.list yet?
[02:33] <Madeye> neotrophy, reconfig kdm to get gdm back ?
[02:33] <[dEvIL-bOY] > yes
[02:33] <neotrophy> Madeye: kdm or gdm, don't much matter which
[02:33] <infowolfe> Madeye, doesn't matter, reconfigure will let you choose which display/login manager you prefer
[02:33] <Madeye> infowolfe, neotrophy cheers! thanks
[02:33] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i done that ages ago, i followed the unofficial ubuntu guide
[02:33] <infowolfe> [dEvIL-bOY] , and you've apt-get update'd?
[02:34] <infowolfe> Madeye, np
[02:34] <[dEvIL-bOY] > E: Couldn't find package for
[02:34] <[dEvIL-bOY] > this is what it says
[02:34] <[dEvIL-bOY] > got to go
[02:34] <frogzoo> infowolfe, seems Gnome/Ubuntu burns CDs with Nautilus by default, just right click and go
[02:34] <[dEvIL-bOY] > be back later
[02:34] <infowolfe> frogzoo, that's nice
[02:36] <infowolfe> so does anybody have any idea wtf the backports people are doing nowadays?
[02:36] <mtupper> infowolfe, k there ya go...
[02:36] <neotrophy> I guess that they're waitng for someone to start getting new stuff into dapper drake
[02:36] <rockviech> if someone has installed some plugins for the desktop, like a launcher or starterbar, plz contact me, need some help with it
[02:38] <infowolfe> brb.
[02:41] <afd_> is there any gui for me to choose which soundcard is used as primary in alsa?
[02:44] <infowolfe> ah
[02:44] <bolrod> afd_: alsaconfig might work
[02:44] <dan2005> hello
[02:44] <dan2005> I made a custom-minimal install of debian, how do I create a installer of it so I can install it to different unit
[02:44] <infowolfe> xchat-gnome is MUCH better than xchat{-common,-systray,}
[02:44] <afd_> bolrod, thanks, I'll need to get it
[02:45] <infowolfe> dan2005: man dd
[02:46] <dan2005> infowolfe: is there a script to do this
[02:46] <pusling> would there be anything wrong in taking newest dapper-kernel and install it on breezy, or has there been significant changes ?
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> pusling: it's probably ok, but expect minor breakage
[02:47] <infowolfe> dan2005: yah, dd if=/dev/olddisk of=/dev/newdisk
[02:48] <laszlok> does anyone know how I can connect to ubuntu machines through a crossover cable to copy files?
[02:48] <infowolfe> seems pretty easy to me if they're identical disks
[02:48] <dan2005> infowolfe: thanks, what else need to be done
[02:48] <dan2005> after copying
[02:49] <infowolfe> laszlok: you might want to install something like ssh-server on both/either and use rsync -e ssh username@machine2:/new/path/to/copied/files /path/to/copy
[02:49] <pusling> what are the newest kernel in dapper ?
[02:49] <infowolfe> dan2005: if it's the exact same disk (make/model) nothing, i'd assume
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> pusling: afaik same as Breezy
[02:49] <afd_> bolrod, alsaconfig is not on my system, I think set-default-soundcard in alsa-utils does it
[02:49] <dan2005> but its diff disk 4gig ang 6gig
[02:49] <linukso> Hi fellow ubuntuers! Is it just me or is X much slower in breezy that hoary?
[02:49] <pusling> Kamping_Kaiser: hmm... then it don't matter ;) some of my hardware are only partially supported with breezy stock kernel ...
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:50] <laszlok> infowolfe: is it possible to do an smb or nfs mount through a crossover?
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> pity pusling.
[02:50] <frogzoo> dan2005 - then it's tar you'll need, install & reinstall grub
[02:50] <aftertaf> hi Kamping_Kaiser :)
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi aftertaf, how are yoU?
[02:50] <pusling> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah ;) Maybe I should just build my own ;)
[02:50] <aftertaf> fine ;) and yourself?
[02:50] <dan2005> oh thanks frogzoo
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: drunk, so fine :D
[02:51] <aftertaf> laszlok:  a crossover cable? if setup ok for tcp/ip, then yes
[02:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi sugoruyo
[02:51] <aftertaf> loool Kamping_Kaiser
[02:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P af
[02:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P aftertaf
[02:51] <aftertaf> pusling:  ever done your own ?
[02:51] <aftertaf> lol Kamping_Kaiser
[02:51] <frogzoo> dan2005 actually dump's better - preserves devices file
[02:52] <burepe> Yeah! I finally got my ports forwarded! Thanks y'all!
[02:52] <pusling> aftertaf: multiple times - but on these machines, I prefer stock kernels ;)
[02:52] <mtupper> iwolfe, check the pastebin please...
[02:52] <frogzoo> dan2005, or cpio
[02:52] <infowolfe> mtupper: didn't get a link to it.
[02:52] <pusling> http://pastebin.com/417135
[02:53] <pusling> lspci on my machine(s)
[02:53] <infowolfe> laszlok: of course it's possible to do whatever you want to do, but nfs is too much of a pain for quick "smash'n'grab" filecopies
[02:53] <mtupper> my bad, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4063 (full rookie status, this is first for almost everything i do...)
[02:54] <infowolfe> pusling: btw, what kernel?
[02:54] <infowolfe> mtupper: what does apachectl configtest output?
[02:54] <pusling> infowolfe: 2.6.12 smp 686 ubuntu breezy
[02:55] <nightswim> what could be wrong if xmms keeps segfaulting
[02:56] <SuperLag> anyone use PPC and have a Hawking Tech HWU54G adapter working?
[02:56] <infowolfe> pusling: wtf mobo is that then?
[02:56] <pusling> infowolfe: a brand new dell pc ... with dell mobo
[02:57] <SuperLag> I do believe I have all that I need, (kernel source, kernel headers, driver source) and compiing the zd1211 drivers for this wlan adapter isn't working.
[02:57] <rockviech> has anybody here tried gDesklet?
[02:57] <rockviech> need some help with it
[02:57] <rockviech> dunno how to use it
[02:57] <rockviech> i installed it, downloaded a launcher bar
[02:57] <rockviech> but now dont know how to continue
[02:57] <infowolfe> rockviech: i'm sure they have very good documentation somewhere, try google.com
[02:57] <frogzoo> SuperLag - ieee headers perhaps?
[02:58] <frogzoo> or maybe the firmware for hotplug?
[02:58] <sugoruyo> hey can anyone tell me what repos i need to add to synaptic?
[02:58] <infowolfe> SuperLag: you traitor ;-)
[02:58] <rockviech> infowolfe, already did, maybe my englisch is to bad or im to stupid
[02:58] <burepe> in bittorrent does uploading and dowloading use the same port?
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> !repositories
[02:58] <ubotu> How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example soruces.list
[02:58] <SuperLag> infowolfe: nope.  Not at all. :)
[02:58] <infowolfe> burepe: no.
[02:59] <SuperLag> infowolfe: btw... what are YOU doing, if *I* am the traitor? :)
[02:59] <sugoruyo> !sources
[02:59] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:59] <frogzoo> burepe, no, it's more complex
[02:59] <aftertaf> nightswim:  maybe try changing output engine...
[02:59] <nightswim> !mp3
[02:59] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[02:59] <nightswim> hmm
[02:59] <infowolfe> SuperLag: dothan 2.13 doesn't have the guts to get me up and running quickly, my production servers all have super cow powers ;-)
[03:00] <nightswim> it used to work fine on the older ubuntu
[03:00] <nightswim> now I shall give rhytmbox a try first
[03:00] <nightswim> if only I can get it to read mp3's :)
[03:00] <aftertaf> nightswim:  yeah but now we have new improved bigs ;)
[03:00] <aftertaf> bugs even
[03:00] <aftertaf> nightswim:  instal the restricted stuff like ubotu listed ;)
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> nightswim, mp3 ? gstreamer
[03:01] <nightswim> I am afraid of gstreamer
[03:01] <wickedpuppy> why ?
[03:01] <wickedpuppy> i am listening to mp3 on xmms now ...
[03:01] <nightswim> bad experiences in the past
[03:01] <nightswim> yeah well xmms kinda works
[03:01] <nightswim> but it segfaults at random moments
[03:02] <sugoruyo> is there any backports for breezy?
[03:02] <burepe> Does that mean that i have to have a port forwarded for downloading and one for uploading infowolfe and frogzoo
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> sugoruyo, topic
[03:03] <frogzoo> burepe - nat will handle your outbound fine, you just have to forward the inbound port for peeps to connect
[03:03] <aftertaf> topic!
[03:03] <politas> Hi-ho! Looking for some help with installing Breezy Badger.
[03:03] <sugoruyo> :(
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> freenode sure is spliting and lagging
[03:03] <burepe> cool
[03:03] <sugoruyo> not yet? or not ever?
[03:04] <frogzoo> burepe, you actually connect to multiple ports outbound
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> politas, ho hi .. ask dude
[03:04] <burepe> Is there a way to group like windows in the gnome gui like kde?
[03:05] <andre> hi!
[03:05] <aftertaf> burepe:  install kde ? ;)
[03:05] <politas> Anyone know how to get around ehci_hcd throwing an "illegal capability!" error during install on a laptop?
[03:05] <burepe> I got it I am just diggin gnome right now
[03:05] <SuperLag> frogzoo: I think it's more than 80211 headers.  When I get to work, I'll post the output.  LOTS of errors.
[03:05] <robotgeek> burepe: how do u do it?
[03:06] <robotgeek> burepe: forget it, i tht u mean tile  windows
[03:06] <frogzoo> SuperLag, I'd guess you've got the wrong driver version then
[03:06] <burepe> oh
[03:06] <SuperLag> That's weird.  I don't think it's that either.  It gets recognized by Ubuntu as a zd1211, and those are the sources I have.
[03:07] <Welly> Hi all, I'm having problems playing videos - I'm not getting sound with them. It's a quicktime video i'm trying to play.. am using Totem player
[03:08] <frogzoo> SuperLag, I was playing with ipw2200 last night, and there's a different driver point release for each kernel point release, or just about
[03:08] <aftertaf> Welly:  have you installed all the restricted format codecs?
[03:08] <Welly> aftertaf: i'm not 100% sure :)
[03:08] <Welly> the video is playing fine
[03:08] <Welly> just no audio
[03:09] <robotgeek> Welly: could you try playing the same in vlc
[03:09] <aftertaf> Welly:  ok.... check if you have all the codecs installed....... see ubotu
[03:09] <aftertaf> !tell welly about restricted
[03:09] <Welly> robotgeek: i'll try that
[03:10] <Miksu> hi. i need to change the owner of a mounted fat partition from root to my standard user
[03:10] <Welly> cheers, aftertaf i'll take a look
[03:10] <aftertaf> robotgeek:  good idea ;)
[03:10] <Miksu> the dialog doesn't have any options for this...
[03:11] <Welly> is vlc a package in the repository or will i have to download it from the vlc site?
[03:11] <robotgeek> Welly: vlc is in the universe reposity
[03:11] <Welly> excellent
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> Miksu, pls kindly use pastebin to paste /etc/fstab ...
[03:13] <cavediver> Hi guys. How do I install a luks-enabled cryptsetup in (K)ubuntu?
[03:14] <robotgeek> any ppc java users here?
[03:14] <WhiteRabbit> *whispers* Ajax *Ajax*
[03:14] <robotgeek> WhiteRabbit: not that *java*
[03:15] <frogzoo> Miksu - you want mount's "user" option
[03:15] <dan2005> is there easy way to share my folder to windows network
[03:16] <Revellion> dan2005: samba
[03:16] <politas> Anyone know how to get around ehci_hcd throwing an "illegal capability!" error during install on a laptop?
[03:16] <Revellion> it's only during install?
[03:16] <Revellion> then that's not a problem
[03:16] <Revellion> oh
[03:16] <Revellion> wait
[03:16] <Revellion> error not a warning :S
[03:18] <politas> Revellion: Yeah, the install is hanging at that point.
[03:18] <Revellion> Hoary, Breezy?
[03:19] <politas> Revellion: Breezy
[03:19] <Welly> now thats interesting.. i've installed the codecs and the video works and I get audio in totem but in vlc I get video but no audio
[03:19] <Revellion> Normal, Expert, Server, Server-Expert?
[03:19] <Revellion> Welly: not so odd..
[03:19] <politas> Revellion: Normal. Brand new laptop.
[03:19] <Revellion> Welly: the VLC in Breezy is retarded
[03:19] <Revellion> the Hoary one was better
[03:19] <Welly> haha oh ok
[03:19] <Revellion> politas: try Expert
[03:19] <Revellion> Welly: wait for the backports..
[03:19] <Revellion> or..
[03:19] <Revellion> do like i do
[03:19] <Revellion> use mplayer
[03:19] <Revellion> apt-get install w32codecs mplayer-nogui
[03:20] <Welly> oh it works now
[03:20] <Welly> bizarre
[03:20] <Welly> mplayer?
[03:20] <Revellion> yes..
[03:20] <Revellion> Welly: you're a linux user and you have'nt heard about mplayer?
[03:20] <Welly> < linux user of a week
[03:20] <Revellion> it's the defacto player nr1 :|
[03:20] <Revellion> http://www.linspirenetwork.com/Support/gruberrors.htm
[03:20] <Revellion> plays about anything you throw at it
[03:21] <Welly> ah awesome.. just what i need
[03:21] <politas> Revellion: Any particular options I should try? "expert" hangs at the same point.
[03:21] <Revellion> politas: skipping the point where it hangs?
[03:21] <Revellion> also when it hangs
[03:21] <Revellion> if you can't get out of the hang
[03:21] <Revellion> Ctrl+C it
[03:21] <Welly> mplayer-nogui depends: libdeirectfb-0.9-20 but it is not installable
[03:21] <Revellion> and the installer should restart itself
[03:21] <politas> Don't have an option of skipping anything
[03:22] <Revellion> Welly: get universe and multiverse into your sources.list
[03:22] <Revellion> politas: yes you can :)
[03:22] <Revellion> if it's not an important step
[03:22] <Revellion> you can just select the upcoming step
[03:22] <Revellion> also...
[03:22] <Revellion> where does it hang?
[03:22] <politas> It hasn't gotten to the installer, it's still booting.
[03:22] <Revellion> aaaaaaaaaaaaah
[03:22] <Revellion> got any USB devices plugged in?
[03:22] <dam_ned> hmm, is there a packaged version of  kernel-image-2.6.14 available for breezy (or dapper)?
[03:22] <politas> Yep, a mouse, but I get the same if I unplug it.
[03:23] <Revellion> politas: go into BIOS
[03:23] <Revellion> disable the USB temporarily
[03:23] <politas> Don't know if any of the built-in HW is connected via USB interface.
[03:23] <Revellion> then enable it again once you've installed it
[03:23] <politas> BIOS has no option to disable USB.
[03:23] <Revellion> ..
[03:23] <Revellion> politas: what lappy is it?
[03:23] <politas> It's a Dreambook Slim 800
[03:24] <Revellion> err..
[03:24] <Revellion> care to take that in Manufacturer - Model format instead? :)
[03:24] <WhiteRabbit> Disable -- USB Legacy support
[03:24] <Revellion> Dreambook rings no bells
[03:24] <Revellion> Pioneer?
[03:24] <politas> It's a "white-box" laptop, from an Australian company.
[03:24] <politas> Pioneer, yep.
[03:25] <WhiteRabbit> next laptop should be a http://www.emperorlinux.com/
[03:25] <WhiteRabbit> ^^
[03:25] <politas> BIOS has no options referring to USB at all. Not one.
[03:26] <aftertaf> any quick and sexy way of setting up bind8 for dynamic updates from dhcp3?
[03:27] <BooZee> font help - can I download and use any font type that I want in ubuntu? do I need to register it? where do I put it?
[03:27] <hyperactivecrond> how does one install the bootsplash theme for ubuntu?
[03:28] <nekostar> BooZee, ive been able to use all the ttf fonts i wanted to
[03:28] <WhiteRabbit> hyperactivecrond, sudo apt-get slowthestartupdownatad
[03:28] <hyperactivecrond> WhiteRabbit, that was almost funny :P
[03:28] <nekostar> /etc/X11/fonts/
[03:28] <nekostar> 100dpi/ 75dpi/  misc/   Type1/
[03:28] <Madeye> guys is there a adept for gnome ?
[03:28] <WhiteRabbit> ;)~
[03:29] <aftertaf> Madeye:  nope its kde only. youhave synaptic tho
[03:29] <apokryphos> madalena: adept for gnome? You mean a package manager for gnome?
[03:29] <nekostar> but i think there should be a ~/.fonts or something like that in your home directory
[03:29] <hyperactivecrond> no b/c i'm giving a ubuntu cd to a n00b and I think that maybe since this _is_ his 1st distro, and ubuntu doesn't have someting like rhgb, i figured it'd make it a little more user-friendly for him
[03:29] <BooZee> nekostar:  and do I need to register it before using?
[03:29] <nekostar> i dont recall to be honest..
[03:30] <nekostar> but yeah i think you gotta do something with it
[03:30] <nekostar> lemme see here...
[03:30] <aftertaf> hyperactivecrond:  it is in breezy though
[03:30] <BooZee> !fonts
[03:30] <ubotu> from memory, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[03:30] <hyperactivecrond> aftertaf: i'm giving him the breezy preview cd b/c i dont feel like sitting on my comp doin nothing for 1.5 hours to download a new cd
[03:30] <hyperactivecrond> !bootsplash
[03:30] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, hyperactivecrond
[03:30] <politas> So, any ideas on how I can get the install to skip loading ehci_hcd?
[03:31] <cansa_> FAILED because of modem_run error 235
[03:31] <cansa_> arrrggggg
[03:31] <hyperactivecrond> i figured as much... oh well he'll have to live with a buncha kernel messages scrolling
[03:31] <cavic> is there a package for File::RsyncP?
[03:32] <politas> Or do I have to give up on Ubuntu and go with another distrib?
[03:32] <aftertaf> hyperactivecrond:  its a n00b test... the more you understand what is being said, the less n00b you are
[03:32] <Madeye> aftertaf, well, I like the filtering model in it, synaptic doesnt have such powerful filtering
[03:32] <hyperactivecrond> aftertaf: he's a N00B officially b/c this is his 1st distro
[03:32] <aftertaf> politas:  isnt there a kernel command to stop that?
[03:33] <aftertaf> politas:  or try server install.....
[03:33] <hyperactivecrond> uhoh:: (in slack channel) nologo and have you seen the Ubuntu tag lines?
[03:33] <hyperactivecrond> nologo: "Linux for Human Beings"
[03:33] <politas> I don't know.
[03:33] <Revellion> politas: should'nt be necessary
[03:33] <Revellion> politas: but there should be an kernel paramf
[03:33] <hyperactivecrond> nologo:screw you hippie
[03:33] <hyperactivecrond> pfft
[03:33] <Revellion> to disable USB during the installation
[03:33] <politas> That's what I was thinking, but I don't know kernel parameters.
[03:34] <aftertaf> hyperactivecrond:  ehe.... slackware is for masochists
[03:34] <Revellion> politas: /me checks
[03:34] <Whistler> whats the default font and font size in xchat?
[03:34] <hyperactivecrond> aftertaf, i've tried it
[03:34] <politas> Revellion: Thanks, much appreciated.
[03:34] <Revellion> font: ugly - font-size: incredibly large
[03:34] <aftertaf> hyperactivecrond:  and? are you a maso? ;)
[03:34] <Revellion> politas: AAAH!
[03:35] <Revellion> simple stuff
[03:35] <hyperactivecrond> their package management system is almost like working with rpm
[03:35] <Revellion> normal nousb
[03:35] <Revellion> simple as taht
[03:35] <hyperactivecrond> aftertaf: _tried_
[03:35] <Revellion> *that
[03:35] <Revellion>         nousb           [USB]  Disable the USB subsystem
[03:35] <Revellion> since it probably is just a problem during install
[03:35] <Whistler> whats the default font and font size in xchat?
[03:35] <Revellion> aftertaf: heh?
[03:35] <politas> Ok, I'll give that a go. Hopefully, the keyboard will still work
[03:35] <_jason> Whistler:  Sans 10
[03:35] <Revellion> i just read kernel-parameters.txt...
[03:35] <Revellion> politas: i'll be roting for ya
[03:35] <_jason> Whistler:  I think, I dont remember changing it
[03:35] <Revellion> hope you succeed
[03:35] <Revellion> or w/e... XD
[03:35] <elkbuntu> anyone used the various web development applications enough to advise whether there is an application that would run on gnome on a p2 350mhz / 256 ram /160 swap, that does not gradually suck up memory or hog cpu during large pastes?
[03:36] <Revellion> Whistler: usually the same as GTK
[03:36] <Nihil85> hallo
[03:36] <elkbuntu> bluefish is getting annoying :(
[03:36] <Revellion> Whistler: unless otherwise specified
[03:36] <Revellion> elkbuntu: SciTE
[03:36] <Whistler> Revellion i have installed xubuntu
[03:36] <politas> Nope. Same thing.
[03:36] <politas> Bummer.
[03:36] <Whistler> and the font and the size is different
[03:36] <imc_> Breezy - trying to install network-manager with apt-get and it installs but I can't launch- what gives?
[03:36] <Revellion> politas: hmm
[03:36] <aftertaf> elkbuntu:  id ditch gnome for one.... se e17 or wmaker, something lighter....
[03:36] <Revellion> the error is USB related hmm
[03:36] <Nihil85> i have a problem not concernig Ubuntu. An HD of mine has the file system damaged. How can i rescue all the data inside this HD?
[03:37] <Revellion> politas: usb-handoff ?
[03:37] <politas> Revellion: still loaded up all the USB stuff.
[03:37] <aftertaf> Nihil85:  what type of filesystem?
[03:37] <Revellion> ubuntu usb-handoff
[03:37] <Revellion> dunno if it really could just accept params
[03:37] <Revellion> and i'am not sure it's normal
[03:37] <Nihil85> fat32
[03:37] <Revellion> it might be ubuntu nousb
[03:37] <elkbuntu> i dont have the time for that right now aftertaf, im in the middle of a huge major project for school and have already had to reinstall the whole system once because a friend insisted upgrading to breezy through the repos was easy... and it was until my hdd ran out of space
[03:37] <Nihil85> aftertaf, the situation is very complex
[03:37] <ompaul> Nihil85, use a live CD mount it and copy it to a burner
[03:38] <imc_> Anyone using network-manager?
[03:38] <Revellion> elkbuntu: you could use SciTE for working with markup/CSS/JS/PHP/etc...
[03:38] <Nihil85> ompaul, i cannot access the HD
[03:38] <aftertaf> elkbuntu:  then grab xfce... and run apt-get clean to empty the cache...
[03:38] <politas> trying "linux usb-handoff" also fails to make a difference.
[03:38] <aftertaf> Nihil85:  yeah but you need to know the fs in order to mount
[03:38] <elkbuntu> aftertaf i dont have time to mess with sessions
[03:38] <Revellion> politas: damn ...
[03:38] <Revellion> it should make a difference...
[03:38] <elkbuntu> i have 4 days left to do half a content management sistem
[03:38] <elkbuntu> system*
[03:39] <politas> Actually, I tell a lie, it does make a difference.
[03:39] <Revellion> .......
[03:39] <ompaul> Nihil85, is the disk in the same building as you are in?
[03:39] <Revellion> hmm
[03:39] <aftertaf> elkbuntu:  you'l have the same session etc..... serious, remove the cache, then install a light WM and run it from gdm, you wont lose anything and you'll gain in speed possibly
[03:39] <politas> I don't get the "illegal capability!" line, but the install still hangs after the dubug port 15
[03:39] <Nihil85> aftertaf, the FS is FAT32, i know it. but it's damaged and sometimes Ubuntu doesn't recognize it and sometimes it recognize the FS like a NTFS
[03:39] <Nihil85> ompaul, yes...
[03:40] <aftertaf> Nihil85:  sounds completely screwed then... only thing to try is to mount it and copy things.
[03:40] <dooglus> does linux NEED to have EXT2 available to the kernel?  all of my partitions are reiserfs - so can I do away with ext2 altogether?
[03:40] <elkbuntu> aftertaf, would you please mind not being so pushy. i am stressed enough without it. the ONLY time my system loses memory into an abyss is when i have bluefish open for a few hours
[03:40] <aftertaf> politas:  weird as square tomatoes....
[03:40] <Revellion> politas: debug port 15...
[03:40] <Nihil85> aftertaf, pleas help me in private
[03:40] <aftertaf> elkbuntu:  ok, no probs.... not wanting to hassle ya ;)    just that i noticed a huge difference in performance once i changed wm...
[03:41] <dooglus> aftertaf: can I pm you and ask you stupid questions until your head explodes.  please?
[03:41] <aftertaf> Nihil85:  i dont know what to sugest apart from trying to mount, and if that fails, putting the disk i the bin
[03:41] <aftertaf> dooglus:  oh please do ;)
[03:41] <aftertaf> rofl
[03:41] <dooglus> lol
[03:41] <politas> Revellion: Yep, the full line is [4294669.710000]  ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: debug port 15
[03:41] <elkbuntu> i have tried xfce on this, i had a session set up before the wonderful 3.1gb hdd running out of space, but i didnt like the way it worked... i kept accidentally right clicking programs open on accident
[03:42] <aftertaf> elkbuntu:  only 3.1 gb? ouch
[03:42] <nekostar> arg
[03:42] <ompaul> Nihil85, its simple you boot a live CD you copy the data when it mounts, if it fails to mount you try to mount it again, you copy the data to another drive either a harddrive or CDrom, that is how complex it is
[03:42] <elkbuntu> its a dev server, i have a *spit* winxp pc
[03:42] <elkbuntu> that after school finishes is gaining a few extra boots
[03:42] <ompaul> Nihil85, messaging people without permission is the fastest way to end up on an ignore list
[03:42] <Revellion> politas: the lappy got wifi yes?
[03:42] <Nihil85> ompaul, i cannot read the HD
[03:42] <politas> Revellion: Yes.
[03:42] <Nihil85> mounted or unmounted i cannot read it
[03:42] <Revellion> politas: does it have a button for turning off/on the wireless?
[03:42] <Revellion> or maybe..
[03:43] <Revellion> a setting in BIOS?
[03:43] <Revellion> seems some people according to google solved it by temporarily disabling it during installation
[03:43] <ompaul> Nihil85, so try again, and again, if not you have to go to one of these specialist companies and the data better be worth in excess of 10k
[03:43] <politas> Revellion: It has a button.
[03:43] <Revellion> politas: the state of the wifi on cd boot is?
[03:43] <Revellion> on or off?
[03:43] <Nihil85> ompaul, i olny said HALLO. if it's a proble, then put me in the ignore list and goodbye.
[03:43] <politas> Revellion: It's on. The button doesn't seem to be working
[03:44] <Nihil85> ompaul, and thanks for the hand
[03:44] <ompaul> Nihil85, if it was a problem would I have continued typing
[03:44] <Revellion> politas: go into BIOS then
[03:44] <aftertaf> elkbuntu:  have you tried nvu, its a sort of updae to bluefish. maybe a bug or two fixed.
[03:44] <Revellion> should be an option there atleast
[03:44] <Nihil85> ompaul, so we can go on. And always thank for the hopeful hand
[03:44] <Revellion> aftertaf: WYSIWIG's are evil
[03:44] <robotgeek> !tell me about msgthebot
[03:44] <Revellion> XD
[03:44] <aftertaf> Revellion:  hehehe
[03:44] <elkbuntu> i have considered it. how memory expensive is it, do you know?
[03:44] <Revellion> aftertaf: they are! :)
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> :) yeh. *agrees with Revellion*
[03:45] <elkbuntu> i came in here mainly to hear of other people's experiences
[03:45] <politas> Revellion: Ah, got the wifi turned off. Still hangs.
[03:45] <Revellion> aftertaf: it encourages sloppy and markups :)
[03:45] <Nihil85> ompaul, why the live cd is better than a normal installed version of ubuntu?
[03:45] <Revellion> politas: sob
[03:45] <aftertaf> Revellion:  i know:) but i cant html in the dark to save my [censored] 
[03:45] <Revellion> politas: what if you turn it on then?
[03:45] <aftertaf> Nihil85:  you dont have to install anything that way.
[03:45] <Revellion> www.w3schools.com <= all you WYSIWIG slaves visit that link now
[03:45] <Revellion> XD
[03:45] <elkbuntu> apologies too, i keep forgetting to address you :(
[03:46] <aftertaf> elkbuntu:  i dont know, i dont do much webdev...
[03:46] <politas> revellion: well, it was failing with it on before
[03:46] <elkbuntu> eww wysiwig... who needs that
[03:46] <elkbuntu> gimme code any day
[03:46] <elkbuntu> :P
[03:46] <Revellion> :)
[03:46] <Revellion> pure hand-authored markup is best ;)
[03:46] <elkbuntu> hell yeah
[03:46] <Revellion> less cruft
[03:46] <ompaul> Nihil85, I do not know the layout of your machine, I do not know if it is the same disk as Ubuntu, you have told us very little and I prefer to do rescue jobs with known media
[03:46] <elkbuntu> you actually know what it's being told to do
[03:46] <Nihil85> i had an idea: what if i try (with gparted) to change the file system into FAT32 like it is? Or will I erase all the data?
[03:46] <Revellion> elkbuntu: but... what tools do you need in the editor?
[03:46] <aftertaf> notepad.exe ? :)
[03:47] <ompaul> Nihil85, is a partition?
[03:47] <Revellion> elkbuntu: if you need what i need then it's Syntax Hiligting, code-folding, some other stuff
[03:47] <Revellion> then SciTe does it
[03:47] <ompaul> Nihil85, or a full disk?
[03:47] <Revellion> aftertaf: i'd take Nano instead of notepad anyday ;P
[03:47] <elkbuntu> mainly, a box that has the code and a box with a simple directory tree
[03:47] <Nihil85> nomed, ompaul. it's a real Hardisk
[03:47] <elkbuntu> ive got a dozen and 1 includes, the file tree helps alot
[03:47] <robotgeek> elkbuntu: how much time do u have? cause vim does all that too :)
[03:47] <Revellion> elkbuntu: aaaah
[03:47] <Nihil85> ompaul, a full hardisk
[03:47] <Revellion> then SciTE does'nt do that
[03:47] <ompaul> Nihil85, I would not go playing with that, you risk more than you may gain
[03:47] <elkbuntu> i noticed
[03:47] <defcon8> Revellion, doesn't
[03:47] <golan77> hi to everybody!
[03:47] <Nihil85> ompaul, i have understood
[03:48] <aftertaf> !cigarette
[03:48] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[03:48] <defcon8> hello golan77
[03:48] <elkbuntu> revellion: svu and quanta are the best looking ive found so far
[03:48] <Nihil85> ompaul, can we talk in private?
[03:48] <elkbuntu> err, nvu
[03:48] <politas> Revellion: Just ran with usb-handoff again, and got a couple of extra lines before it froze.
[03:48] <elkbuntu> i always do that typo :\
[03:48] <ompaul> Nihil85, I see no point, I have given you the useful info I have, there is no extra benefit
[03:48] <KlaasS> hi
[03:49] <politas> new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
[03:49] <Nihil85> ompaul, the fact is that i cnnot mount the hd because there's an unknown filesystem.
[03:49] <shimmy> hi
[03:49] <politas> irq 23, io mem 0x80000000
[03:49] <politas> park 0
[03:49] <elkbuntu> i guess i will just stick with bluefish for the next few days... it's not that bad, just like 10 second waits when pasting anything more than a couple of lines
[03:50] <Nihil85> ompaul, the file system is corrupt, i guess. It was broken by a malicious Hardisk firewire&usb Box
[03:50] <politas> Revellion: I'm syuspecting the card reader may be involved
[03:50] <KlaasS> hi everyone, i've got this booting problem with ubuntu, when i try to install ubuntu, it hangs when it says = booting linux, loading kernel, i've tried the 5.04 and the 5.10
[03:50] <apokryphos> elkbuntu: why would you ever use that if Quanta+ exists? 8)
[03:51] <gwark> can i find in terminalif my cpu is SSE2 ?
[03:51] <elkbuntu> because quanta is kde oriented and with all the extra libraries would eat up amost another 100meg of my remaining 800meg hdd space
[03:51] <ompaul> Nihil85, do this from ubuntu: >> sudo fdisk -l << and put the output in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:53] <Jizzbug> Anybody here know racoon/setkey (IPsec stuff) very well?  I'm trying to setup a VPN server for tunnel clients with dynamic IPs, having problems with "generate_policy on" and the SPD database.
[03:53] <Nihil85> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4065
[03:55] <ompaul> Nihil85, try this   >> mkdir /mnt/other ; mount -t vfat /dev/hda3 /other << where /mnt /other does not exist on your machine already
[03:55] <ompaul> Nihil85, error   >> mkdir /mnt/other ; mount -t vfat /dev/hda3 /mnt/other <<
[03:56] <ompaul> Nihil85, left out the second /mnt in the first one
[03:58] <Nihil85> ompaul, i cannot understand you
[03:58] <Nihil85> ompaul, what's the exact command i should do?
[03:58] <ompaul> Nihil85, try this in a terminal  >> mkdir /mnt/other ; mount -t vfat /dev/hda3 /mnt/other << the command lies between the <>
[03:59] <Sinphaltimus> Hello...
[03:59] <Nihil85> it gave me the same result of yesterday
[03:59] <Jizzbug> anybody know ipsec stuff here (racoon, isakmpd, setkey, etc)?
[04:00] <Nihil85> ompaul, the result is: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblocks, ecc ecc
[04:01] <Sinphaltimus> I was able to run the LIVE CD (5.10) on a dell optiplex and a PC clone with absolutely no isses. Runs great, very impressed. However, I can't seem to get it to work on an older NEC Versa SX laptop.
[04:01] <Sinphaltimus> Video display corruption and NIC issues.
[04:02] <Sinphaltimus> Is there a driver repository for hardware where I maybe able to find hardware specific fixes under Ubuntu? Forgive my Windows based lingo, this is my first attempt ever at trying anything linux based.
[04:02] <Nihil85> ompaul, are you connected?
[04:03] <ompaul> Nihil85, yes I am thinking
[04:03] <budong> hello
[04:04] <Nihil85> ompaul, thanks
[04:04] <aftertaf> good think ompaul and god weekend to you :)
[04:04] <aftertaf> bye all
[04:04] <ompaul> Nihil85, try this   >> mkdir /mnt/other ; mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /other << we will try the second drive now
[04:05] <ompaul> Nihil85, try this   >> mkdir /mnt/other ; mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /mnt/other <<  {note to self cut the correct one next time}
[04:06] <Sinphaltimus> Any tips or recommendations for resources to help me trouble shoot the issues I have reported?
[04:06] <budong> exit
[04:06] <Seveas> (couldn't resist)
[04:06] <ompaul> Seveas, well he was being a rabbit hopping in and out :)
[04:07] <Wo|f> Just wanted to say thanks to all the developers of Ubuntu, I am really digging this distro! Have a great day!
[04:07] <robotgeek> i just updated the javappc wiki page with information about getting java1.5 :)
[04:07] <ompaul> Wo|f, tell them in #ubuntu-devel - Note it is not a support channel at all :-)
[04:08] <ompaul> no not even for anyone
[04:08] <Wo|f> :)
[04:08] <robotgeek> Sinphaltimus: we see you. unfortunately, i have no idea what's goin on
[04:08] <frogzoo> Sinphaltimus, Versa's were always a problem - gl finding drivers
[04:08] <Wo|f> I haven't needed support yet, everything is working out of the box
[04:09] <mahangu> anybody got kismet working?
[04:09] <ompaul> Nihil85, did that do anything for you?
[04:09] <WhiteRabbit> air sniffing fun fun
[04:09] <Sinphaltimus> Sorry, I was under the impression I could get support here. Didn't know it was a developers IRC.
[04:09] <robotgeek> Sinphaltimus: this is a support group
[04:09] <mahangu> Sinphaltimus, this is support IRC
[04:10] <GNULinuxer> Sinphaltimus: it's not
[04:10] <robotgeek> a developers irc
[04:10] <ompaul> Sinphaltimus, this is support
[04:10] <Seveas> apokryphos, *g* some people don't want to take a hint :)
[04:10] <mahangu> WhiteRabbit, kismet? :)
[04:10] <ompaul> Sinphaltimus, what I said was: Wo|f, tell them in #ubuntu-devel - Note it is not a support channel at all :-)
[04:10] <WhiteRabbit> mahangu, yes kismet is good stuff
[04:11] <mahangu> WhiteRabbit, having some problems connecting, you in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[04:11] <apokryphos> Seveas: [15:03:22]  <Erwin_fire> i'm not fujisan <Erwin_fire> i'm his brother
[04:11] <ompaul> Sinphaltimus, it is not referred to #ubuntu-devel
[04:11] <WhiteRabbit> mahangu, I don't use that channel sorry
[04:11] <frogzoo> Sinphaltimus, it was hard to get even the right doze drivers on Versas
[04:11] <frogzoo> I think the internals were mostly proprietary and never released
[04:12] <Miksu> hi!
[04:12] <eeaaxx> anybody knows where can i find the repository for xmame?
[04:12] <Sinphaltimus> frogzoo:Thanks, is there a list of laptops known to work well with Ubunto. I dunno, maybe I'll just run the live CD on everything I have until I find something that works.
[04:13] <Miksu> i need to give permanent ownership for a mounted fat32 partition for myself. the partition is /media/hda1
[04:13] <RaggedJack> how do I not assign an IP address to an interface but still enable it.
[04:13] <Nihil85> ompaul, the result is: root@Olidata:~# mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /other
[04:13] <Nihil85>  mount: il mount point /other non esiste
[04:13] <Nihil85> root@Olidata:~#
[04:13] <Sinphaltimus> eeaaxx - have you tried www.rom-world.com?
[04:13] <frogzoo> eeaaxx, multiverse apparently
[04:13] <eeaaxx> Sinphaltimus: yes. but i don't have the emulator. i would like to know where can i download xmame?
[04:14] <frogzoo> RaggedJack - ifconfig eth0   ?
[04:14] <ompaul> Nihil85, do not paste in here paste.ubuntulinux.nl - I repeated the command with a small change >>  mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /mnt/other
[04:14] <Nihil85> ompaul, ok
[04:14] <Sinphaltimus> OK, I gotta run..... Thanks all. As soon as I can find appropriate HW to run Ubuntu on, I'm sure I'll be much happier and be back here a lot more.  Looking to learn everything I can....Bye for now.
[04:14] <Miksu> Raggedjack ifconfig eth0 inet dhcp 0.0.0.0 up
[04:15] <eeaaxx> frogzoo: multiverse? sorry, i am new to ubuntu
[04:15] <Miksu> so can you help me how to change the ownership of a mounted partition
[04:15] <robotgeek> !tell eeaaxx about repos
[04:15] <RaggedJack> Miksu why would I use dhcp as oppsed to static?
[04:16] <Miksu> RaggedJack whatever you want to use. i use dhcp because my router acts as both dns and dhcp server
[04:16] <frogzoo> eeaaxx, run up synaptic, and in options, and checkbox in settings -> repositories -> settings -> show disabled software sources
[04:16] <RaggedJack> I don't ever want the interface to get an IP address
[04:16] <Rawplayer> re
[04:17] <frogzoo> eeaaxx, then settings -> repositories  and select multiverse binary
[04:17] <Miksu> RaggedJack for me it's a lan side address. totally irrelevant for anything on the wan side
[04:17] <robotgeek> RaggedJack: you want to disable the network interface?
[04:17] <frogzoo> eeaaxx, then you can edit -> search -> xmame     select & apply
[04:18] <RaggedJack> I am configuring snort and don't need an IP address just the device
[04:18] <eeaaxx> frogzoo: ok. thanks
[04:18] <stas> hi
[04:18] <frogzoo> RaggedJack, ifconfig eth0 up --- will do what you want, but why? hmmm sniffing?
[04:18] <Miksu> RaggedJack if you like to have the whole deal for your info, type info interfaces in the terminal. and info ifconfig for the configuration part
[04:18] <stas> how can I update to the new ubuntu+
[04:18] <stas> I am running 5.04 now
[04:18] <RaggedJack> Yes
[04:18] <stas> can I install 5.10 without burning any CDs?
[04:18] <Revellion> stas: depends :)
[04:19] <Revellion> stas: if you got a live Linux enviroment from another CD
[04:19] <burepe> I have an extra hard drive on my comp and I had changed the permissions of some folders and when I restarted the computers, there were a bunch of errors and blah blah blah, and now there are all these fsck0043,ren files all with different numbers instead of 43. Is this bad? can I just delete the files?
[04:19] <Revellion> you could use it to bootstrap it
[04:19] <KlaasS> hi, i had the problem that my kernel couldn't boot, i have fixed that with the command ' linux irqpoll pci=noacpi ', but even if i enter that command, it hangs, it hangs on differen places, the only help of this command is, is that the kernel loads...
[04:19] <Revellion> or..
[04:19] <Revellion> using Netboot/PXE/AFTP to install it across the network
[04:19] <farruinn> stas: just change your /etc/apt/sources.list, do apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade
[04:19] <jron> is there a list somewhere of xorg configs per monitor type? i really don't wana fry my monitor... again...
[04:19] <Revellion> stas: or if you meant upgrading..
[04:20] <frogzoo> burepe, this is very bad - your file system has been trashed - best to restore from backup if possible
[04:20] <stas> I want to upgrade my current 5.04 system
[04:20] <farruinn> Revellion: he said he's already running 5.04
[04:20] <Revellion> alter sources.list to breezy and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade :)
[04:20] <stas> to 5.10
[04:20] <burepe> why did it happen?
[04:20] <trappist> frogzoo: all you really need to know for your monitor is the refresh rate, which should be documented by the manufacturer
[04:20] <jhavi> hola
[04:20] <Revellion> farruinn: hmmz, :o, damn window was a bit too small to see that part :)
[04:20] <stas> farruin what's an \etc?
[04:20] <trappist> err
[04:20] <apokryphos> stas: read the /topic for instructions on how to upgrade
[04:20] <farruinn> stas: do you use synaptic or apt?
[04:20] <Miksu> how do i change the ownership of /media/hda1 from root to myself
[04:20] <stas> and what do I change it to
[04:20] <trappist> jron: all you really need to know for your monitor is the refresh rate, which should be documented by the manufacturer
[04:20] <frogzoo> burepe, probably you were writing to disk when you cut the power...?
[04:21] <Miksu> farruinn synaptic edits the same file as you want it to from the gui
[04:21] <stas> ok thanks :)
[04:21] <Miksu> farruinn of synaptic's repositories part
[04:21] <burepe> ok, isn't there something that prevents me from doing that?
[04:21] <farruinn> Miksu: yes I know, I was asking him to see if he'd be more comfortable using synaptic or editing /etc/apt/sources.list directly
[04:22] <jron> trappist, hmmm, okey ;P
[04:22] <frogzoo> burepe, if your hard drives busy, and you kick out the power cord....
[04:22] <burepe> no it was nothing like that.
[04:22] <burepe> I just restarted
[04:23] <jhavi> alguien save como instalar gstreamer0.8-mad????  por favor... necesito ayuda...
[04:23] <_jason> !sp
[04:23] <ubotu> _jason: I give up, what is it?
[04:23] <_jason> !es
[04:23] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:23] <Dasnipa`> no en espaniol
[04:23] <Miksu> farruinn my opinion is that the interfaces file is something you want to edit manually , but the repositories is so simple you can just go for the gui
[04:23] <burepe> $/join #ubuntu-sp
[04:23] <burepe> I think
[04:23] <GNULinuxer> -es
[04:23] <zenrox> name a easy program that i can use to split mp3 in to 2 parts so it can be burnt to a music cd
[04:24] <burepe> $/join #ubuntu-es
[04:24] <burepe> of couse
[04:24] <frogzoo> burepe, that isn't normal, no, you've done something wrong without knowing it
[04:24] <farruinn> Miksu: interfaces file?
[04:24] <WhiteRabbit> !restricted
[04:24] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[04:24] <burepe> I was trying to change the permissions
[04:24] <Miksu> farruinn etc/network/interfaces .. it is your network settings
[04:24] <frogzoo> burepe, how did you reboot?
[04:24] <burepe> through the gui
[04:24] <Miksu> farruinn that your network settings gui edits
[04:24] <farruinn> Miksu: oh, network interfaces, I thought you were still talking about apt :P
[04:25] <Miksu> farruinn but do you know how to change the ownership of a mounted fat32 partition
[04:25] <frogzoo> burepe, and how was the file system set up? linux syncs the disks before rebooting - for some reason, this didn't happen
[04:26] <burepe> frogzoo, should I just reformat the harddisk?
[04:26] <frogzoo> burepe, if you don't need the data, yes
[04:26] <Miksu> burepe if you want to do a fresh install, you should also wipe your master boot record
[04:27] <frogzoo> Miksu, the install will install an MBR for you
[04:27] <Miksu> frogzoo paranoia :)
[04:27] <burepe> frogzoo, I don't know I am pretty new at this so it could be the mount, or the permissions
[04:27] <Miksu> frogzoo, besides, if  you want to grub to be on your harddrive, what do you do with a corrupted mbr on the disk..
[04:27] <burepe> Miksu, it is a second hard drive, I don't need to do a reinstall right?
[04:27] <frogzoo> burepe, the thing is to find out what went wrong so it doesn't happen again
[04:28] <burepe> i have no idea how to do that frogzoo
[04:28] <Miksu> burrepe if your mbr is not on the same disk, the other disk should go with a format, i think
[04:29] <Nihil85> ompaul, the page is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4066
[04:29] <Nihil85> ompaul, excuse me but i was at the telephone
[04:29] <burepe> Miksu, what is mbr
[04:29] <frogzoo> burepe, just a suggestion, have you read the Ubuntu user guide?
[04:29] <burepe> no
[04:29] <KlaasS> hi, i had the problem that my kernel couldn't boot, i have fixed that with the command ' linux irqpoll pci=noacpi ', but even if i enter that command, it hangs, it hangs on differen places, the only help of this command is, is that the kernel loads...
[04:30] <burepe> I should huh
[04:30] <Miksu> burepe for example, it contains the info needed to boot your os
[04:30] <Revellion> burepe: MBR = Master-Boot-Record
[04:30] <Miksu> burepe it can also contain a boot loader, like GRUP
[04:31] <burepe> How do i find the master boot loader
[04:31] <JazzCrazed> mornin/afternoon/evenin all
[04:31] <burepe> Do I need to change some settings in the mbr?
[04:31] <ompaul> Nihil85, your machine has me beaten, I can't think of any more to do with that, there is one last thing you can try, it may be destructive or it may work, there is a distro called "recovery is possible" I do not know if it would offer you any more than I have
[04:32] <frogzoo> burepe, don't concern yourself with the MBR - if you reinstall from CD, the installer takes care of that for you
[04:32] <Miksu> burepe if i would wanna trash a disk and install an os, i would boot from a bootable cd to the dos 7.10 installer, cancel it to enter a DOS shell, and type gdisk 1 /mbr /wipe
[04:32] <Nihil85> ompaul, lost for lost, i'm ready to do everything
[04:32] <JazzCrazed> i'm trying to print a pdf from evince who's page size is smaller than letter, to be centered on letter sized paper going thru an hp laserjet 8150n...but it prints by default in the upper left, and i can't seem to change that - can ne1 help me please?
[04:32] <Miksu> burepe you dont "DO" anything, you just tell a partitioner to clear it
[04:32] <burepe> Wait I am confused
[04:33] <burepe> what does the last sentence mean? reformat?
[04:33] <burepe> Do I need to reinstall if all the errors are on the second hard drive?
[04:33] <carthik> Hi, would someone know why the Cpu freq. monitor panel applet has the "governor" feature disabled ? and how to enable it?
[04:34] <burepe> I just set everything up after a reinstall
[04:34] <Miksu> burepe try booting an os you have on the first disk, if no problems just format everything on disk 2 and install there. when doing the partition setup, do not raise a boot flag on disk 2
[04:34] <frogzoo> burepe, these will help you to get up to speed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation http://ubuntuguide.org/
[04:34] <Nihil85> ompaul, where i can find this program to recover my hardisk?
[04:35] <ompaul> Nihil85, it is a distro, and I do not know that it offers anything useful
[04:35] <ompaul> Nihil85, let me look at it for you
[04:36] <Miksu> root@DRAKALOR:/media#                                                   hda1
[04:36] <Nihil85> thanks, ompaul
[04:36] <Miksu> what command to change the ownership of "HDA1
[04:36] <Calren> Hi, I installed Ubuntu last night and was able to get it setup with some help from here. I tried turning my laptop on this morning and I'm stuck on "Starting hotplug subsystem"
[04:37] <burepe> Miksu, if I have no problems  rebooting on the first disk do I have to install on the second one? The os is on the first disk the second is fat32. I can reformat easy but a reinstall on the first disk would suck
[04:37] <ompaul> Nihil85, its here >>  http://freshmeat.net/projects/recoveryispossible/?branch_id=8898&release_id=209317 << but will it try to do more than we have done, I don't know
[04:37] <FarrisG> Does anyone have any experience with fresh Ubuntu kernels and broadcom gigabit NICs?
[04:37] <ompaul> Nihil85, burn yourself a CD and remember which partitions your dealing with
[04:38] <JazzCrazed> how do i print a pdf so that it is centered on a page from evince?
[04:38] <frogzoo> Nihil85, have you tried mounting as msdos mebbe?
[04:38] <ompaul> frogzoo, it does say 95 on fdisk -l
[04:38] <mips> Hi,
[04:38] <Nihil85> frogzoo, no i don't
[04:39] <carthik> Calren, if you just want to continue booting, press Ctrl+c which will kill the starting hotplug process
[04:39] <Miksu> burepe if anything from disk1 boot fine, your mbr is okay. if you have something from disk 2 listed in your boot loader and it wont boot, you have a trashed disk 2. format everything on disk 2, and install your os there. you should update the BOOT RECORD on disk 1 . to do this, do not raise a boot flag anywhere when installing, this tells the installer to reinstall the mbr on PRIMARY DISK which is DISK1 obviously
[04:39] <ompaul> Nihil85, well to try it change -t vfat to -t msdos
[04:39] <Calren> carthik:: um... it isn't working
[04:39] <Nihil85> ompaul, a guy from #ubuntu-it tell me to use easyrecovery for windows. do you know it?
[04:39] <ompaul> no
[04:40] <Nihil85> ok
[04:40] <mips> I need a small bit of Firestarter help
[04:40] <carthik> Hi, would someone know why the Cpu freq. monitor panel applet has the "governor" feature disabled ? and how to enable it?
[04:40] <ompaul>  Nihil85 I have not run windows for myself since the early 90's, I have used it for people I worked for, but thats a different story
[04:40] <Nihil85> ompaul, mount -t msdos /dev/hdb1 /mnt/other?
[04:40] <ompaul> Nihil85, yeap
[04:40] <burepe> Sorry but the os is on disk one. If I reformat disk 2 i don't need to install. I don't need 2 OSes. Does that make sense?
[04:41] <Nihil85> it's the same with msdos, ompaul
[04:42] <ompaul> Nihil85, try the recovery is possible CD it is possible you will not get anywhere with this, I don't know much about it
[04:42] <ompaul> Nihil85, it does get good ratings
[04:42] <mahangu> a compile of mine is trying to find libcurses
[04:43] <mahangu> i cant find it in the repos
[04:43] <mahangu> backports?
[04:43] <teimu> is there a way to restart the computer from the command line?
[04:43] <JazzCrazed> mahangu, if u're using breezy, there are no backports
[04:43] <drcode> hi all
[04:43] <burepe> frogzoo, if the ubuntu os is on disk one and my messed up disk is disk 2, is it ok to just reformat disk 2. Meaning since the os is on disk one, I don't have to reinstall, right?
[04:43] <robotgeek> teimu: sudo reboot
[04:43] <mahangu> JazzCrazed, hoary
[04:43] <mahangu> i need it to compile kismet
[04:43] <teimu> thanks robot
[04:43] <Rockett18> teimu> sudo init 6
[04:43] <drcode> any one know web server for linux other then APACHE
[04:43] <drcode> somthing lite
[04:43] <Nihil85> ompaul, the guy from ubuntu-it tell me that with that program for windows he rescue a formatted and re-partioned HD. i will try that program before
[04:44] <JazzCrazed> mahangu: dunno wut they r, sry :(
[04:44] <Nihil85> *re-partitioned
[04:44] <SamanthaGothLove> Yea can somebody please post up a url for noobs wanting to install Ubuntu for the first time?
[04:44] <ompaul> Nihil85, you have a working Ubuntu it may kill off Ubuntu
[04:44] <deFrysk> SamanthaGothLove, klick yes for times , reboot , done
[04:44] <deFrysk> four*
[04:44] <burepe> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation http://ubuntuguide.org/
[04:45] <burepe> thank frogzoo
[04:45] <Nihil85> ompaul, why? linux is in another HD
[04:45] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[04:45] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[04:45] <frogzoo> Nihil85, I can't help noticing you have LBA enabled on one disk, and not on the other - are both these disks from the same machine?
[04:45] <deFrysk> burepe, please dont refer to ubuntuguide , for its on crack
[04:45] <burepe> i just got refered to it
[04:45] <robotgeek> burepe: here?
[04:46] <deFrysk> burepe, dont refer to it here please
[04:46] <burepe> yeah look up the page
[04:46] <burepe> i get it
[04:46] <ompaul> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/
[04:46] <burepe> someone just told me so i repeted the information
[04:46] <ompaul> Nihil85, linux is on disk 1 and shares some space with fat32 on that drive
[04:46] <deFrysk> burepe, sure but dont do it again ;)
[04:46] <robotgeek> burepe: no problems :)
[04:47] <spike> hi
[04:47] <burepe> i get it
[04:47] <spike> I upgraded to breezy and have no bootsplash. I've just apt-got usplash, what am I supposed to do now?
[04:47] <dylan_> hi everyone
[04:47] <ompaul> burepe, its not a problem but forget it use the link I gave there a moment ago :-) SamanthaGothLove that link is there for you also
[04:47] <spike> hey ompaul
[04:48] <ompaul> hi spike
[04:48] <SamanthaGothLove> kk i got it thankx
[04:48] <dylan_> im trying to configure my proxy server.  i used the thing under System Preferences and typed in Automatic:  192.168.0.100.  Why dont programs like gtk-gnutella say that the proxy is enabled and that Im not firewalled?  Thanks for any answers.
[04:48] <queuetue> Is there a way to install just a few packages from debian testing, without switching the entire system?
[04:49] <farruinn> pinning
[04:49] <farruinn> !apt-howto
[04:49] <ubotu> well, apt-howto is at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
[04:49] <farruinn> check out the link, very useful
[04:50] <Nihil85> ompaul, no. Linux is on disk 1 and the damaged hd is on disk2
[04:50] <dylan_> can somebody help me with my proxy server problem?
[04:51] <robotgeek> dylan_: is it not possible to set that proxy information in gk-gnutella?
[04:51] <queuetue> farruinn: it is an impressive howto, but a quick scan does not indicate that it explains what I'm trying to find out...
[04:51] <dylan_> robotgeek, yes but im a little confused and it worked before the other way.  additioanlly, it makes my net browsing faster
[04:52] <zbin> hi
[04:52] <zbin> hello
[04:52] <queuetue> farruinn: A, "mixed system"
[04:52] <robotgeek> dylan_: hmm, i don't have much experience here. outta my league :(
[04:52] <robotgeek> zbin: hi
[04:53] <dottorpal> hello...anyone could help me?
[04:53] <farruinn> queuetue: yeah, I think that's the section. The howto does have the info though, I've gotten it from there before
[04:53] <Nihil85> i will reboot and try these programs, ompaul
[04:53] <zbin> 
[04:53] <Nihil85> goodbye
[04:53] <dylan_> Nihil85, would you help me configure my network proxy please?
[04:53] <zbin> 
[04:54] <dottorpal> I can't boot kubuntu live on my powerbook titanium 550...anyone can help me?
[04:54] <burepe> help:  I have a second harddrive (not my ubuntu os one, another fat32 one) and it has a bunch of errors, fsck0039.ren files, So apparently this is bad and the drive is messed. So this is the question, if I just reformat the second drive can I avoid a reinstall of ubuntu on the first drive?
[04:54] <imc_> Anyone using network-manager?
[04:54] <burepe> !chinese
[04:54] <ubotu> burepe: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:54] <frogzoo> dylan_, do I understand correctly, you're proxying on the same box you're browsing from?
[04:54] <imc_> network-manager on breezy to be precise?
[04:54] <dylan_> frogzoo, yes
[04:54] <burepe> what?
[04:54] <robotgeek> dottorpal: almost the same model. what happens?
[04:54] <robotgeek> imc_: used to use it? why?
[04:54] <burepe> ubotu, what?
[04:54] <ubotu> What what, burepe?
[04:54] <imc_> I apt-get installed it and it installed without warning, then I couldn't run it! I tried just invoking network-manager but no soap. Did i miss a step?
[04:55] <farruinn> burepe: ubotu is a bot
[04:55] <dottorpal> I tried to press c
[04:55] <frogzoo> dylan_, if the proxy's running, iptables can still block access if not configured properly
[04:55] <dottorpal> but nothing...
[04:55] <KlaasS> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=466955#post466955
[04:55] <KlaasS> please help
[04:55] <burepe> you tell me, "is what bigger than a bread box
[04:55] <dottorpal> I can't boot!
[04:55] <robotgeek> imc_: how are you trying to run it?
[04:55] <robotgeek> !botabuse
[04:55] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[04:55] <dottorpal> i insert the disc and then reboot the PB
[04:55] <dylan_> frogzoo, how do i know that the proxy's even running....how do i configure iptables to do this for me?
[04:55] <imc_> robotgeek, I tried alt+F2 network-manager but that wasn;t recognized. . .
[04:56] <burepe> farruinn, what do you mean? that is a program?
[04:56] <imc_> Or does it integrate with Network Monitor or something I missed?
[04:56] <dylan_> frogzoo, i just want my router to stop slowing shit down and make gtk-gnutella faster n stuff
[04:56] <frogzoo> dylan_, see if the proxy port is open - netstat -ant
[04:56] <robotgeek> imc_: AFAIK, you run nm by using the applet. nm-applet &
[04:56] <imc_> AAAAAAHHHHH!
[04:56] <frogzoo> dylan_, or look for the proxy process
[04:56] <imc_> Thanks, robotgeek, will try.
[04:56] <farruinn> burepe: yes, used for storing helpful bits of data like links
[04:56] <dottorpal> i tryed with the C key pressed...
[04:56] <dottorpal> but nothing
[04:56] <burepe> I thought it was someone messing with me
[04:56] <dylan_> frogzoo, tcp        0      0 192.168.0.100:35620     64.12.201.40:5190       ESTABLISHED
[04:56] <robotgeek> dottorpal: okay, the cd might be faulty or something!
[04:56] <dylan_> what does that mean
[04:56] <barosl> did anyone use monkey's audio on linux?
[04:57] <farruinn> imc_: you can alsways do 'dpkg -L <package> | grep bin' to see what executables are installed
[04:57] <thevishy> hi
[04:57] <burepe> how can that breadbox thing be helpful
[04:57] <dottorpal> are you sure?
[04:57] <thevishy> can someone help me ?
[04:57] <dottorpal> I can't boot anything..!
[04:57] <robotgeek> dottorpal: does it spit the cd out?
[04:57] <dottorpal> no
[04:57] <frogzoo> dylan_, if that's it, you're proxy's not running - what are you using?
[04:57] <dylan_> frogzoo, Ubuntu Breezy with GNOME 2.12 and a Dlink DI-604 router
[04:58] <thevishy> ubuntu is based on debian ?
[04:58] <robotgeek> dottorpal: hmm, does the tiger/jaguar cd boot?
[04:58] <_jason> thevishy:  yes
[04:58] <dottorpal> but I have just changed the combo unit with a piooner
[04:58] <dottorpal> k05
[04:58] <frogzoo> dylan_, I'm just getting started with Ubuntu - what process does Ubuntu use for the proxy - apache?
[04:58] <thevishy> i see and u guys like it ?
[04:58] <thevishy> i am gonna install it
[04:58] <dylan_> frogzoo, i have no idea
[04:58] <robotgeek> !tell thevishy about debian
[04:58] <_jason> thevishy:  I think it is great.  It has become all I use
[04:58] <thevishy> nice
[04:58] <dottorpal> in tiger no problem..but i can't boot! could be a pioneer problem?
[04:58] <thevishy> i am gonna install then
[04:59] <thevishy> can u just help me figure out a few things?
[04:59] <deFrysk> thevishy, this is an ubuntu-channel people who dont like ubuntu dont come here ;)
[04:59] <thevishy> i have fc 3.0 in my system already
[04:59] <robotgeek> dottorpal: i was asking about the TIger boot disk/dvd
[04:59] <mahangu> g++ -Ilibpcap-0.9.1-kis -O2 -Wall -DVERSION_MAJOR=\"2005\" -DVERSION_MINOR=\"08\" -DVERSION_TINY=\"R1\" -DTIMESTAMP=\"`cat TIMESTAMP`\"  -g -O2 -c util.cc -o util.o
[04:59] <thevishy> lol :)
[04:59] <mahangu> /bin/sh: g++: command not found
[04:59] <mahangu> shit
[04:59] <bob2> mahangu: uh, install build-essential
[04:59] <mahangu> sorry, was gonna paste just one line
[04:59] <mahangu> i get that error, when i try to compile kismet
[04:59] <bob2> mahangu: also, why are you compiling kismet?
[04:59] <bob2> mahangu: so, just install kismet using synaptic and go have a beer
[04:59] <dottorpal> I don't have it...i just buy this powerbook used
[04:59] <thevishy> how do i install ubuntu from the live cd
[04:59] <thevishy> ?
[05:00] <bob2> thevishy: you can't, get the install cd
[05:00] <mahangu> bob2, im having problems on hoary
[05:00] <bob2> (you can but it's complicated)
[05:00] <carthik> WHy is the suid bit for /usr/bin/cpufreq-selector not set, anyone?
[05:00] <farruinn> thevishy: that will hopefully be a built-in feature for the next release
[05:00] <mahangu> there are HOWTOs which tell me that i have to recompile with kernel headers
[05:00] <bob2> mahangu: how do you think this "problem" would be solved by compiling anything?
[05:00] <burepe> help:  I have a second harddrive (not my ubuntu os one, another fat32 one) and it has a bunch of errors, fsck0039.ren files, So apparently this is bad and the drive is messed. So this is the question, if I just reformat the second drive can I avoid a reinstall of ubuntu on the first drive?
[05:00] <bob2> mahangu: no, those howtos are broken and wrong
[05:00] <mahangu> however a friend of mine just said to compile it from source
[05:00] <deFrysk> farruinn, that would be great :)
[05:00] <bob2> mahangu: your friend is silly, ignore them on this topic
[05:00] <mahangu> bob2, i have a ipw2100 chipset
[05:00] <bob2> mahangu: so do I
[05:00] <farruinn> deFrysk: I think it's a pretty high priority for the devs
[05:00] <carthik> I can't modify the cpu freq using the panel applet cpu monitor - is there a reason why I shouldnt be able to do this?
[05:00] <mahangu> bob2, how can i do this?
[05:00] <mahangu> im on hoary
[05:01] <robotgeek> dottorpal: hmm, no clue why it does that. either a problem with the cd or your cd drive
[05:01] <thevishy> i cant install fm the liev cd version ?
[05:01] <bob2> mahangu: wtf
[05:01] <bob2> mahangu: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[05:01] <thevishy> knoppix cud
[05:01] <mahangu> bob2, I <had> it installed via apt-get
[05:01] <bob2> thevishy: that's why it's called the "live cd", not the "install cd"
[05:01] <bob2> mahangu: and?
[05:01] <mahangu> didn't work
[05:01] <dottorpal> can I do anything in tiger?
[05:01] <thevishy> but i cud install knoppix with my live cd
[05:01] <bob2> mahangu: didn't work is not a description of the problem
[05:01] <farruinn> thevishy: yes, but this isn't knoppix is it?
[05:01] <bob2> thevishy: then join #knoppix and have fun
[05:01] <thevishy> nah
[05:01] <bob2> thevishy: if you wan't to install ubuntu, you'll need an install cd
[05:01] <mahangu> bob2, heh, it just says eth1 is not a valid source
[05:02] <deFrysk> thevishy, your question has been answered I think
[05:02] <mahangu> bob2, what is your config line?
[05:02] <thevishy> lemme ask somethin
[05:02] <farruinn> thevishy: there is a livedvd available I believe that you can install from
[05:02] <queuetue> "W: GPG error: http://mirror.direct.ca testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F1D53D8C4F368D5D" ... how do I get the key for a repository mirror?
[05:02] <thevishy> does a cd that boots means it live version ?
[05:02] <mahangu> source=ipw2100,eth1,ipw
[05:02] <mahangu> right?
[05:02] <mahangu> /etc/kismet/kismet.conf?
[05:02] <frogzoo> mahangu compiling ipw from source is only straightforward if you're used to messing with c code
[05:02] <deFrysk> thevishy, live versions boot with a desktop environment
[05:02] <thevishy> the dvd in which i had this distro says its ubuntu linux 5.0.4
[05:02] <deFrysk> install-cd's dont
[05:02] <hilisopo>  #ubuntu-es
[05:03] <mahangu> frogzoo, im compiling kismet, not the driver
[05:03] <thevishy> install-cd's start the installation straight away ?
[05:03] <frogzoo> mahangu, but the stock ipw driver doesn't support monitor mode...
[05:03] <carthik> thevishy, yes
[05:03] <bob2> mahangu: source=orinoco,eth1,orinocosource
[05:03] <thevishy> i see , digit magazine gave this thing only
[05:03] <dottorpal> I also tryed an ubuntu dvd installation disc...but notthing!
[05:04] <bob2> mahangu: that is the only source line you want
[05:04] <mahangu> frogzoo, i heard that, but a friend of mine got kismet working on hoary by compiling the newest version from source
[05:04] <dottorpal> I'm not able to boot it..!
[05:04] <frogzoo> mahangu, do "iwconfig eth1 mode monitor" - what do you get?
[05:04] <mahangu> bob2, hoary or breezy?
[05:04] <mahangu> frogzoo, it dies
[05:04] <bob2> mahangu: warty, hoary, breezy
[05:04] <farruinn> dottorpal: are you sure you're burning the discs correctly?
[05:04] <dylan_> frogzoo, any ideas?
[05:04] <mahangu> but my friend's machine dies on that too
[05:04] <frogzoo> mahangu, run as root, or sudo
[05:04] <mahangu> bob2, what frogzoo said?
[05:04] <carthik> bob2, perhaps you'd know why the /usr/bin/cpufreq-selector has the suid unset - is there a reason why I have to do a chmod a+s for that executable to be able to control the cpu's freq using the cpu freq monitor panel applet?
[05:04] <mahangu> ipw doesnt support monitor mode?
[05:05] <burepe> dottorpal, are you having a problem with the boot order in bios?
[05:05] <dottorpal> bios?
[05:05] <farruinn> burepe: no, he's on a powerbook
[05:05] <dottorpal> how can I access the bios?
[05:05] <robotgeek> burepe: ppc doesn't have stuff like that
[05:05] <burepe> dottorpal, are you using mac
[05:05] <burepe> ok
[05:05] <bob2> mahangu: install kismet using apt. add the line I showed you. run 'sudo kismet_server'.
[05:05] <frogzoo> mahangu, the stock hoary ipw drivers don't no
[05:05] <burepe> bios is not for mac
[05:05] <dottorpal> I'm using a mac yes!
[05:05] <burepe> it changes the boot order
[05:05] <burepe> but are you sure the cd you have is for mac comps?
[05:05] <dottorpal> is there a boot order also in mac?
[05:05] <farruinn> dottorpal: when you insert your discs in os x does it show you a bunch of files on the disc or just a *.iso?
[05:05] <burepe> what cd are you using
[05:06] <mahangu> bob2, doing
[05:06] <robotgeek> farruinn: good one
[05:06] <frogzoo> mahangu, this is as far as I got last night - but the doc isn't complete and hasn't been maintained - it gets messy http://kerneltrap.org/node/5414
[05:06] <dottorpal> files
[05:06] <zbin> 
[05:06] <mahangu> frogzoo, ive been told that HOWTO is wrong
[05:06] <zbin> china
[05:06] <bob2> zbin: this is pretty clearly an english-speaking channel
[05:06] <frogzoo> dylan_, unfortunately, I'm still getting up to speed on Ubuntu
[05:06] <farruinn> dottorpal: you're holding the c key down immediately after you hear the boot chime?
[05:06] <dottorpal> i downloaded the iso and then I burn it with nero under win
[05:06] <frogzoo> mahangu, and they were right :D
[05:06] <farruinn> dottorpal: did you download the ppc iso?
[05:07] <dylan_> burepe, can you help me configure my network proxy?
[05:07] <mahangu> frogzoo, it sucks?
[05:07] <dylan_> having problems
[05:07] <dottorpal> yes immediately and also during the boot chime!
[05:07] <burepe> what are you trying to do?
[05:07] <dottorpal> where am I wrong!?
[05:07] <frogzoo> mahangu, but it does give you the overall view of what needs to be done to rebuild the ipw driver - I think if you had the right versions of everything, it could be made to work
[05:07] <farruinn> dottorpal: the iso you downloaded, it had ppc in its name?
[05:07] <robotgeek> dottorpal: can u retry burning the cd at a lower speed
[05:08] <dottorpal> yes yes the iso is for PPC
[05:08] <mahangu> frogzoo, ive been told that the ubuntu kernels patched that
[05:08] <mahangu> wait ill tell you if this works
[05:08] <dylan_> burepe, i want gtk-gnutella to stop telling me that im firewalled
[05:08] <burepe> search the web for mac boot order
[05:08] <farruinn> dottorpal: that exhausts all of my ideas, try what robotgeek said
[05:08] <thevishy> why is it that ubunut is only 1 cd ?
[05:08] <dottorpal> and I burn it with the track at once method
[05:08] <farruinn> thevishy: because ubuntu is awesome like that
[05:08] <robotgeek> burepe: it's all right, he's doing the right things
[05:08] <thevishy> i see it has developing tools ?c++ ?
[05:08] <robotgeek> dottorpal: burn it at 8x/4x
[05:08] <frogzoo> mahangu, but not hoary, think you'd be ok with breezy - the fact that "iwconfig eth0 mode monitor" doesn't work for you says that the driver doesn't support it
[05:09] <thevishy> java etc ?
[05:09] <burepe> dylan_, that is out of my league I think. I am new at this
[05:09] <farruinn> thevishy: those aren't part of the default desktop installation, but they are available
[05:09] <bob2> thevishy: it uses remote internet archives to download them from
[05:09] <thevishy> i see , so i will have to download
[05:09] <_jason> thevishy:  has all of those things in the repos.  It doesn't bloat the install with things not every user wants/needs.
[05:09] <dottorpal> ok I'll try it
[05:09] <thevishy> yes , deb packages correct ?
[05:09] <frogzoo> mahangu, I'm just going to install breezy & see how that goes
[05:09] <thevishy> i see
[05:09] <KlaasS> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=466955#post466955
[05:09] <KlaasS> pls help
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> apt-get install build-essentials     :P gets all the C stuff ya need. (well most of it)
[05:09] <farruinn> thevishy: yes, but usually it's best *not* to just install any random deb you find
[05:10] <mahangu> bob2, FATAL: Could not find 'monitor' private ioctl or use the newer style 'mode monitor' command.  This typically means that the drivers have not been patched or the correct drivers are being loaded.
[05:10] <dottorpal> but the dvd version doesn't work...and I burn it at 4x!
[05:10] <farruinn> thevishy: there are tools that download the specific debs you need
[05:10] <bob2> mahangu: sure you have ipw2100?
[05:10] <thevishy> i see
[05:10] <robotgeek> dottorpal: so, this is the kubuntu live dvd?
[05:10] <mahangu> bob2, how can I check?
[05:10] <dylan_> bob2, would you mind helping me configure my network proxy...i want gtk-gnutella to stop telling me that im firewalled and cannot get a lot of results
[05:11] <frogzoo> mahangu, dmesg |grep ipw
[05:11] <dottorpal> I have the kubuntu live CD...and the Ubuntu DVD installation
[05:11] <thevishy> all of u did the shipit thing ?
[05:11] <burepe> frogzoo,   I have a second harddrive (not my ubuntu os one, another fat32 one) and it has a bunch of errors, fsck0039.ren files, So apparently this is bad and the drive is messed. So this is the question, if I just reformat the second drive can I avoid a reinstall of ubuntu on the first drive?
[05:11] <mahangu> bob2, ipw2200 :S
[05:11] <robotgeek> dottorpal: try burning the live cd again, at 4X
[05:11] <thevishy> what exactly is the use of live cd ?
[05:12] <thevishy> i mean what purpose does it serve ?
[05:12] <dottorpal> ok...disc at once or track at once?
[05:12] <_jason> thevishy:  to try it out before you install it
[05:12] <thevishy> if it cant be used for a hard disk installation ?
[05:12] <thevishy> i see
[05:12] <farruinn> thevishy: allows new users to test drive ubuntu before committing their machine to it
[05:12] <burepe> thevishy, it is an os that runs all from a cd with out an install
[05:12] <frogzoo> burepe, if there's no linux data on that drive, then as far as linux is concerned, you can do what you like with it - but are you trying to dual boot windows?
[05:12] <thevishy> yes
[05:12] <thevishy> so the mp3 player works ?
[05:12] <mahangu> frogzoo, i think you were right
[05:12] <thevishy> and the video player ?
[05:12] <mahangu> but whre does that HOWTO go wrong?
[05:12] <thevishy> on live cd ?
[05:12] <burepe> no, I hace
[05:13] <thevishy> okie...lemme check it then
[05:13] <thevishy> thank you
[05:13] <burepe> I have a windows comp and a linux comp, the linux comp has a second hard drive that is fat32 to share with the windows comp, frogzoo
[05:13] <robotgeek> heh...must be a smart troll (with a lot of time :) )
[05:13] <frogzoo> mahangu, I couldn't get it to compile cleanly - could fiddle with it, but upgrading to breezy will be quicker
[05:13] <deFrysk> lol robotgeek
[05:14] <robotgeek> dottorpal: just try that. i've faced problems like that too
[05:14] <mahangu> frogzoo, what's your chipset again? ipw2200?
[05:14] <frogzoo> burepe, but no OS, just data? then reformat & you're good :D
[05:14] <mahangu> will it run on breezy for sure?
[05:14] <ksmurf> hey all.  Any suggestions for a good multi wifi conection manager?  I connect to 5 different networks and have to manually config each time.  Any suggestions would be Great.
[05:14] <frogzoo> mahangu, yep
[05:14] <burepe> cool
[05:14] <mahangu> frogzoo, also what is your thinkpad?
[05:14] <dottorpal> ok I'm going to burn
[05:14] <burepe> that meaning got lost in the last conversation thanks
[05:15] <robotgeek> dottorpal: while you are at it, check the md5 of the iso of the live cd
[05:15] <mahangu> frogzoo, t42?
[05:15] <robotgeek> ksmurf: network-manager
[05:15] <dottorpal> how can I check it?
[05:15] <robotgeek> ksmurf: or have 5 scripts :)
[05:15] <ksmurf> robot thanks.....
[05:16] <burepe> frogzoo, by the way I reposted the links you gave me for someone and a bunch of people were like noooo, apparently the ubuntuguide breaks things, just thought i would let you know
[05:16] <robotgeek> dottorpal: there's a program on windows which checks for you.
[05:16] <jron> uhhh... does gentoo use a default root password or what?
[05:16] <robotgeek> dottorpal: lemme pull up the link, uno momento
[05:16] <jron> cuz it sure isn't the same as my user password.
[05:16] <farruinn> jron: gentoo?
[05:16] <frogzoo> burepe, yeh thanks, saw those - oops
[05:16] <dottorpal> but I don't have a md5 file!
[05:16] <jron> erm ubuntu.
[05:16] <jron> just switched last night :P
[05:16] <farruinn> jron: no, use sudo, that will ask for your user password
[05:16] <dottorpal> robot ma sei italiano?
[05:17] <jron> whats the dif between sudo and su?
[05:17] <frogzoo> mahangu, Sony Vaio here dude
[05:17] <andi5> farruinn: sudo is heavily patched, is not it?
[05:17] <farruinn> andi5: patched? how so?
[05:17] <mahangu> frogzoo, after I do a install, how can i remove it?
[05:17] <robotgeek> dottorpal: gimme a minute. where is the kubuntu iso on? the windows machine, right?
[05:17] <farruinn> !rootsudo
[05:17] <ubotu> it has been said that rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:18] <robotgeek> dottorpal: no speake italiano!
[05:18] <frogzoo> mahangu, removing it will be as messy as the install - try it & see
[05:18] <dottorpal> yes yes the win machine
[05:18] <frogzoo> mahangu, why not just move to breezy? install's only 20mins or so
[05:18] <burepe> dottorpal, $/join #ubuntu-it
[05:18] <dottorpal> thanks robot for the support
[05:18] <robotgeek> dottorpal: http://www.nullriver.com/downloads/Install-winMd5Sum.exe that's the program to install.
[05:19] <dottorpal> oh..thanks burepe!
[05:19] <sudeep> Hi i have ubuntu Hoary. The windows installation of vmware player said it requires a processor >686 , I have AMD k-6 which is not. Will it work if i use the linux version?
[05:19] <robotgeek> dottorpal: and this is the kubuntu breezy that we are talking about, right?
[05:20] <dottorpal> the last verion 5.10
[05:20] <mahangu> frogzoo, pm?
[05:20] <frogzoo> mahangu, actually, I have to split about now, sry
[05:20] <sudeep> Hi i have ubuntu Hoary. The windows installation of vmware player said it requires a processor >686 , I have AMD k-6 which is not. Will it work if i use the linux version?
[05:20] <robotgeek> dottorpal: install that program, and check the md5 checksum of the iso file
[05:21] <farruinn> sudeep: please don't repeat your question like that. Have the courtesy to wait a few minutes, please?
[05:21] <robotgeek> dottorpal: here is the list of md5sums for kubuntu http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/MD5SUMS
[05:21] <jron> thanks, i understand how sudo differs from su and how the root user is setup on ubuntu now
[05:21] <mahangu> i did a make install
[05:22] <mahangu> how can i kill those files
[05:22] <mahangu> just rm the dirs?
[05:22] <farruinn> jron: it actually tells you during boot, but I think a lot of people skim by it
[05:22] <farruinn> jron: s/boot/installation
[05:22] <queuetue_> Has anyone installed openafs?  I'd really appreciate a working howto or just a set of instructions...
[05:22] <airmikey> how do i get the debian menu install ?
[05:22] <farruinn> airmikey: sudo apt-get install menu
[05:23] <dottorpal> ok thank you
[05:23] <farruinn> airmikey: it's in universe
[05:23] <andi5> farruinn: sed: -e expression #1, char 19: unterminated `s' command :P
[05:23] <icemanx> i need HELP
[05:23] <robotgeek> !tell icemanx about help
[05:23] <Decadent> are there any encoders to play .wmv ??
[05:23] <fmasi> How do i install  kmobiletools fo mu moto c650
[05:23] <robotgeek> icemanx: ignore that!
[05:23] <farruinn> andi5: huh?
[05:23] <icemanx> i need to install UBUNTU on 150 computers
[05:23] <_jason> ubotu:  tell decadent about w32codecs
[05:24] <robotgeek> dottorpal: so, did the md5checksums match?
[05:24] <icemanx> i need automated install or network install on 150 computers at once
[05:24] <icemanx> HELP???
[05:24] <sudeep> is there anyone who can help me?
[05:24] <airmikey> thats already installed...im running openbox..the menu doesnt show up
[05:24] <burepe> whoa!
[05:24] <robotgeek> icemanx: are they pxe-bootable?
[05:24] <icemanx> yes
[05:25] <mahangu> i did a make install. i want to remove those files
[05:25] <queuetue_> icemanx: yelling help a lot probably isn't going to get you a lot of it. ;)
[05:25] <mahangu> can i just kill the dir?
[05:25] <icemanx> i am the system administrator for WVU
[05:25] <airmikey> how do i get debian menu to show up in openbox wm ?
[05:25] <robotgeek> icemanx: if so, set up a local repository. then, do a network install.
[05:25] <icemanx> we recently switched from windows to ubuntu
[05:25] <farruinn> airmikey: I've never used openbox, is there a way to regenerate its menus?
[05:25] <robotgeek> airmikey: try googling for the program denu
[05:26] <airmikey> treid
[05:26] <burepe> that is awsome!
[05:26] <ubuntu> hi
[05:26] <ubuntu> i am on live cd now
[05:26] <icemanx> so a local repository on the main computer, this one, then how do i get it to install to the others without setting up each one
[05:26] <ubuntu> how do i mount my hard disk
[05:26] <sudeep> has anyone tried out vmware?
[05:26] <robotgeek>  airmikey that did not work? cause i use that all the time :)
[05:26] <ubuntu> how can i play an mp3 now ?
[05:27] <ubuntu> hi sudeep
[05:27] <ubuntu> from ?
[05:27] <burepe> sudeep, yeah
[05:27] <airmikey> robotgeek:no it didnt
[05:27] <ubuntu> kahan se hain aap ?
[05:27] <airmikey> thx
[05:27] <ubuntu> how can acess my hdd on live cd
[05:27] <burepe> ubuntu, german? #ubuntu-de
[05:28] <burepe> #ubuntu-de-treffpunkt
[05:28] <burepe> #kubuntu-de
[05:28] <burepe> 
[05:28] <burepe> Germany
[05:28] <robotgeek> icemanx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[05:28] <sudeep> burepe: the windows version that i tried gave me an error saying that my proc was < 686, and vmware doesnot support this. I have AMD-k6
[05:28] <sudeep> burepe: will using the linux version help?
[05:28] <ubuntu> i just cant acess my hard disk from my live cd it seems
[05:28] <Storm3> eck. Someone is on my account :-\
[05:28] <Dasnipa`> i dont thing you can access your harddrive on a livecd ubuntu, as it doesnt mount your harddrive
[05:28] <robotgeek> ubuntu: windows hdd,right?
[05:29] <burepe> explain again, simply
[05:29] <ubuntu> yes
[05:29] <ubuntu> correcy
[05:29] <andi5> Storm3: are you counting days? *wondering*
[05:29] <Dasnipa`> you could probably mount your ntfs drive, you wont be able to write to it though
[05:29] <Storm3> ubuntu: Can't you just mount it?
[05:29] <ubuntu> but hey ...
[05:29] <Storm3> andi5: No. Someone is on my Stormx2 account?
[05:29] <ubuntu> i need to create a dir in /mnt correct ?
[05:29] <ubuntu> which is not possible
[05:29] <Dasnipa`> no you dont
[05:29] <ubuntu> then how do i >?
[05:30] <andi5> Storm3: did you register that name?
[05:30] <Dasnipa`> making a directory in /mnt is just a nice mount point
[05:30] <robotgeek> icemanx: looks simple, doesn't it?
[05:30] <ubuntu> then how do i ?
[05:30] <Storm3> ubuntu: The LiveCD sets up a temp partition I think, a ramdisk
[05:30] <Dasnipa`> you can choose to mount it anywhere
[05:30] <anyi> ubotu, mkdir /mnt/c
[05:30] <Dasnipa`> man mount
[05:30] <ubotu> anyi: Syntax error in line 1
[05:30] <Storm3> andi5: yap
[05:30] <ubuntu> pemsiision denied
[05:30] <Stormx2> wait... hang on
[05:31] <Dasnipa`> right cuz its a live cd... do man mount and look at the options
[05:31] <Stormx2> XChat was already open
[05:31] <Stormx2> >.>
[05:31] <anyi> ubotu, cannt mkdir ?
[05:31] <ubotu> anyi: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:31] <Stormx2> I synced my SPV e200 :D
[05:31] <BockBilbo> hello
[05:31] <Dasnipa`> you could do mount /dev/hda1 /home/<username> for all it matters thats just not a particularly wise mount point
[05:31] <ubuntu> no i acnt
[05:31] <BockBilbo> whats the best way to resize and ext3 partition?
[05:32] <ubuntu> btw > what is the default root passwrod?
[05:32] <Dasnipa`> but you need to flag it read only and ntfs
[05:32] <robotgeek> airmikey: did you put the menu denu generated in ~/.config/openbox/menu.xml, and told openbox to use it by putting it in ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml
[05:32] <Dasnipa`> heck the man mount
[05:32] <Dasnipa`> hence*
[05:32] <DrBair> ubuntu: is none... everything goes through sudo
[05:32] <DrBair> ubuntu:you could set one if you feel the need
[05:33] <anyi> ubotu, try to "su -"
[05:33] <ubotu> anyi: Are you smoking crack?
[05:33] <robotgeek> anyi: ubotu is a bot
[05:33] <anyi> -_-#
[05:34] <icemanx> so can anyone help here? or are we all just asking questions?
[05:34] <icemanx> i need to install ubuntu on 150 computers
[05:34] <icemanx> as easily an quickly as possible
[05:34] <jron> sorry i have another question about my config... i have the hor/sync range set as well as the color mode and resolution i wana use but my recommended refresh rate is 85hz, where does that get setup in xorg.conf?
[05:35] <Dasnipa`> oem install mode?
[05:35] <burepe> i was trying to install over a network and told it wasn't possible
[05:35] <icemanx> without putting a cd in each drive an manually installing
[05:35] <bored2k> If I have the Kubuntu 5.10 disc, how do I use Jigdo to fetch only what's left for a Ubuntu 5.10 one?
[05:35] <Nei> when I run ./autogen.sh, I get
[05:35] <anyi> icemanx, make a ghost image?
[05:35] <icemanx> or can i make an automated install?
[05:35] <carthik> jron, since you have the required settings, use $sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:35] <Nei> Running autoconf...
[05:35] <Nei> configure.in:19: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_ENABLE_SHARED
[05:35] <Nei> how to fix?
[05:35] <robotgeek> icemanx: if your computers boot from a network, change the bios in all the computers to boot from network, and install from there?
[05:35] <DrBair> icemanx: last I checked automated install was on the drawing board but not completed
[05:35] <Dasnipa`> ubotu likes goatse
[05:35] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Dasnipa`
[05:35] <robotgeek> !botabuse
[05:35] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[05:36] <icemanx> ok, how do i install over the network???
[05:36] <Dasnipa`> ahh
[05:36] <icemanx> i have all the computers set to boot from network
[05:36] <burepe> icemanx, you can't do it I was told
[05:36] <stephank> icemanx: I found this for automated install, not sure if it's fast setting that up: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WithFullyAutomaticInstaller
[05:36] <robotgeek> icemanx: did u not read the link which i sent you? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[05:36] <jron> carthik, i don't think that answers my question, i could be wrong though...
[05:37] <carthik> jron, you can use what I suggested to produce a new xorg.conf with the right settings.
[05:37] <jron> i just wana set the refresh rate to 85hz
[05:37] <[A] ndy80> Very strange thing: I'm using an application (XLite). If I start it from command line, it works fine. If I start it from the shortcut I created on gnome panel, I get this error: Warning: /dev/dsp appears to be a valid audio device, but I cannot open it. How can I fix this problem?
[05:37] <andi5> [A] ndy80: kill all running sound servers, start with esnd :)
[05:37] <DrBair> icemanx: have you looked over the wiki?
[05:37] <[A] ndy80> what could it be the difference between launching from command line and from gnome panel, to cause this problem?
[05:37] <jron> carthik, i have all the correct settings, i just need to tell it to use that refresh rate ;P
[05:37] <carthik> jron,  what is so difficult to understand or try in what I just said - from experience, the way I suggested is the easiest way
[05:38] <DrBair> icemanx: I'm looking now and it seems possible
[05:38] <airmikey> the debian menu showed up under applications on ubuntu...but not on breezy ....
[05:38] <airmikey> i need that debian menu
[05:38] <deFrysk> jron, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg run defaults exept for the hor. and .vert. freq settings , make sure you have them available
[05:38] <mc|amb> how do i mount with samba??   smb:// ... ???
[05:38] <icemanx> ok, thanks a lot :D
[05:38] <carthik> manually editing the file will cause your change to be lost when the xorg package is upgraded, for one, jron, and putting in the wrong values could fry your monitor!!
[05:38] <jron> the dif is i trust my docs over some auto config app...
[05:38] <ompaul> icemanx, did you read the link that robotgeek sent you? it contains the answer you need
[05:38] <rob_p> jron:  You can specify sync ranges under the Monitor section of your xorg.conf.  They are assigned using the, "HorizSync" and, "VertRefresh" directives.
[05:38] <icemanx> yes, i am reading it now
[05:38] <icemanx> thanx
[05:38] <mahangu> i just compiled a driver
[05:38] <medgno> airmikey, I think the 'menu' or 'menu-xdg' packages are what you want. I'm not sure tho
[05:38] <mahangu> is insmod or modprobe better?
[05:39] <icemanx> i appreciate the help
[05:39] <bored2k> Having a Kubuntu disc, how do I use Jigdo to make an Ubuntu one?
[05:39] <robotgeek> mahangu: modprobe
[05:39] <jron> rob_p, i did that... but it's a huge range and i just want it to be 85hz...
[05:39] <ompaul> mc|amb, 5.10?
[05:39] <airmikey> medgno:thx they r already installed
[05:39] <stephank> icemanx: I think ubuntu supports kickstart aswell? I can't find alot on it, though..
[05:39] <medgno> airmikey, maybe try a 'sudo update-menus'
[05:40] <jron> right now, the range is 50-140 which i put in my xorg.conf... but i want it to just run at 85hz... so should i just change the 50-140 to 85?
[05:40] <airmikey> ok
[05:40] <rob_p> jron:  man xorg.conf and you'll see that you can specify ranges or specific freqs.
[05:40] <[A] ndy80> andi5: for example: esddsp /opt/xlite/xtensoftphone ?
[05:40] <jron> k
[05:40] <mahangu> robotgeek, can i modprobe a .ko file? what is the extension i should look for?
[05:40] <deFrysk> jron, you need the know the specs of your monitor
[05:40] <andi5> [A] ndy80: if you have esd running, try that, does it help?
[05:40] <deFrysk> jron, find them
[05:40] <jron> i have them deFrysk
[05:41] <airmikey> medgno:u da man..right on
[05:41] <airmikey> yhehhe
[05:41] <Dasnipa`> they are usually on the back of monitors arent they?
[05:41] <deFrysk> jron, then find horizontal and vertical frequencies
[05:41] <robotgeek> mahangu: insmod the .ko file, but after you know it works, move it to /lib/modules/<whatever>. then you can modprobe it
[05:41] <Nei> is there a virtual package that makes my system able to compile software?
[05:41] <[A] ndy80> andi5: bash: esddsp: command not found
[05:41] <DrBair> icemanx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LocalNet <-- This seems promising
[05:41] <Dasnipa`> Nei, ? g++?
[05:41] <jron> deFrysk, I have them... but i just wana use 85hz which is in the range of what my monitor can do and is the recommended refresh rate for my res....
[05:41] <Nei> Dasnipa`, that doesn't install ld (just for example)
[05:41] <robotgeek> Nei: build-essential
[05:42] <andi5> [A] ndy80: maybe apt-get install esound-clients?
[05:42] <andi5> [A] ndy80: need to try that too :)
[05:42] <ubuntudude> how can I manually download kernel-image as .deb?
[05:42] <deFrysk> jron, with the correct hor and vert frequenties you might be able to do so
[05:42] <jron> so, to do that couldn't i just change VertRefresh     50-140 to VertRefresh 85
[05:42] <jron> ?
[05:42] <deFrysk> no
[05:42] <icemanx> thanx so much
[05:42] <deFrysk> jron, what type monitor ?
[05:43] <icemanx> good luck everyone
[05:43] <carthik> jron, System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[05:43] <jron> 19 inch sony trinitron, p900
[05:43] <carthik> jron, if you are lucky, 85 might already be there as an option
[05:43] <jron> compaq branded...
[05:43] <[A] ndy80> andi5: I'm installing esound-clients
[05:43] <mahangu> robotgeek, insmod: error inserting 'ipw2200.ko': -1 File exists
[05:43] <robotgeek> ubuntudude: why would u do that?
[05:44] <jron> carthik, it isn't which is why i'm editing my config, thanks though.
[05:44] <robotgeek> mahangu: sudo rmmod ipw2200
[05:44] <deFrysk> jron, it sounds to me the frequenties are correct from what I read from your info betten not change them
[05:44] <robotgeek> i don't think debconf replaces the file if changes have been made
[05:44] <robotgeek> i *know* :)
[05:44] <ubuntudude> robotgeek: I'm fixing a broken debian isntalation
[05:44] <Nei> robotgeek, mhm. this thing still doesn't work
[05:44] <jron> i know they are correct... but my manual also says it is best to run it at 85hz... it can do up to 140... but 85 is best...
[05:45] <Nei> I have a compiler and linker yet ./autogen.sh says C compiler cannot create executables
[05:45] <[A] ndy80> andi5: it works!!! thanks :)
[05:45] <jron> so i was wondering if i could just put VertRefresh 85 instead of VertRefresh 50-140
[05:45] <deFrysk> jron, try system>prefs>screenresolution
[05:45] <deFrysk> jron, what you suggest is wrong
[05:46] <rob_p> jron:  Yes.  You can specify VertRefresh 85 and it should conform to the proper syntax.  No guarantees it will work though.
[05:46] <deFrysk> dont do that
[05:46] <robotgeek> Nei: 'gcc -v' output
[05:46] <carthik> jron, i have had the same problems on every one of my pcs... here's what i find useful : http://vale.homelinux.net/wordpress/?p=32
[05:46] <deFrysk> jron, and if 85 hz is not possible, ....too bad
[05:46] <Nei> robotgeek, gcc version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[05:46] <rob_p> jron:  However, I'd recommend that you put a range in.
[05:46] <carthik> jron, perhaps, after editing the xorg.conf file, you forgot to restart xserver?
[05:47] <jron> yeah i have a range... but is it going to pick the best refresh rate for me? ;P
[05:47] <jron> aka 85hz.
[05:47] <deFrysk> jron, nice monitor btw :)
[05:47] <robotgeek> Nei: weird, can you pastebin the eroor?
[05:47] <deFrysk> jron, try system>prefs>screenresolution
[05:47] <deFrysk> jron, in your panel
[05:47] <rob_p> jron:  Just give it a try... if it doesn't work, change it back.  Easy!
[05:47] <carthik> jron, the way it works is - you set the range in xorg.conf and restart x, and after this the dropdown will hae multiple choices...
[05:48] <jron> ah, i follow you now deFrysk , didn't know that little app let you set the refresh rate ;P
[05:48] <jron> thanks guys, all should be good now :P
[05:48] <deFrysk> jron, enjoy your sony ;p
[05:48] <carthik> jron, :O I suggested taht a long time ago!!!
[05:49] <deFrysk> jron, carthik did indeed :D
[05:49] <jron> hehe yeah sorry carthik i thought you were just telling me to not set anything in my xorg.conf and just use that app...
[05:49] <jron> which wouldn't work... i stilll needed my correct config / ranges in there...
[05:49] <[A] ndy80> andi5: I tried to use esddsp with skype too. Now I cannot ear any sound!
[05:49] <jron> but i understand what you were trying to say now :P
[05:50] <queuetue> Has anyone installed openafs?  I'd really appreciate a working howto or just a set of instructions...
[05:50] <carthik>  <sermon> there are different ways of doing things, but it pays to do things the "right" way </sermon> :)
[05:50] <andi5> [A] ndy80: i have never ever used skype (closed source, is not it?)
[05:50] <robotgeek> carthik: that post on ubuntu wordpress by u?
[05:50] <carthik> robotgeek, which post?
[05:50] <[A] ndy80> andi5: yes it's closed source
[05:50] <robotgeek> carthik: the cpu one?
[05:51] <robotgeek> carthik: and hence, maybe the related question?
[05:51] <carthik> robotgeek, yes, something wrong in it?
[05:51] <Nei> robotgeek, <
[05:51] <Nei> robotgeek, http://rafb.net/paste/results/5iVmKI32.html
[05:51] <robotgeek> carthik: good work there :)
[05:51] <robotgeek> carthik: interesting to read.
[05:51] <mc|amb> ompaul: yes, 5.10?
[05:51] <andi5> [A] ndy80: so skype plays, but the other apps not?
[05:51] <carthik> robotgeek, shukriya!
[05:52] <robotgeek> Nei: googling for it, uno momento
[05:52] <imc_> robotgeek, thanks. network manager is working now. How can I have it auto start?
[05:53] <Nei> robotgeek, you're the single person helping me here the whole time, thanks
[05:53] <carthik> imc_, nm-applet?
[05:53] <dan2005> hello, I delete my file using konqueror but the disk space is not free?
[05:53] <robotgeek> imc_: 'cd /etc/init.d/ && sudo update-rc.d Network-Manager defaults'
[05:53] <imc_> Thanks so much robotgeek!@
[05:53] <medgno> dan2005, it probably just moved it to the trash
[05:53] <robotgeek> imc_: and add nm-applet to your gnome-session. System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[05:53] <carthik> robotgeek, network-manager same as nm-applet?
[05:54] <robotgeek> carthik: yup, but Network_manager is the backend, the applet is the frontend
[05:54] <medgno> dan2005, in konqueror, go to trash:/  and see if the files are still there
[05:54] <[A] ndy80> andi5: no... Xlite works with esddsp, but skype not.
[05:54] <dan2005> I think I was move to trash where can i find trash folder
[05:54] <carthik> robotgeek, i find adding nm-applet to gnome-session defaults is all is required... the update-rc.d was not required for me
[05:54] <imc_> Thanks again!
[05:54] <robotgeek> carthik: ah, okay..i compiled it from cvs :)
[05:54] <dan2005> medgno: ill try that
[05:55] <robotgeek> Nei: try export CC=gcc
[05:55] <Stormx2> hi
[05:55] <fatehaze> Ok, here's one for you guys
[05:56] <robotgeek> Nei: or sudo apt-get install --reinstall build-essential
[05:56] <ruiwen> hi guys, does breezy have write capabilities to ntfs partition?
[05:56] <fatehaze> Installation went fine until the stage where it installs additional packages, right before setting the time zone settings
[05:56] <Nei> robotgeek, btw, this whole stuff works nicely on debian. mabye Im missing some package? this is so confusing
[05:56] <medgno> ruiwen, not really
[05:56] <Nei> export CC=gcc didnt help
[05:56] <robotgeek> Nei: ur the first guy i've seen having this issue
[05:56] <Stormx2> fatehaze: Then what?
[05:56] <fatehaze> It gives me an error at about 75%, saying either I have no disk space or the installation cd can't be read
[05:56] <Stormx2> Nei: What is the problem?
[05:57] <fatehaze> I tried that step twice and got the same thing, so I skipped it and continued with the rest of the installation, which went fine
[05:57] <ruiwen> medgno: so best option is to have a fat data partition?
[05:57] <Stormx2> fatehaze: Do you have diskspace/parition space?
[05:57] <robotgeek> fatehaze: go to expert install, and select verify cd
[05:57] <medgno> ruiwen, if you want to share with any other OS, yeah
[05:57] <Nei> Stormx2, I can't compile on my ubuntu
[05:57] <fatehaze> It's a fresh format of a 20gb drive
[05:57] <robotgeek> fatehaze: ah, okay..go on with your story :)
[05:57] <Stormx2> Nei: Do you have the right packages?
[05:57] <Nei> Stormx2, it says my compiler can't create executables, see http://rafb.net/paste/results/5iVmKI32.html
[05:58] <robotgeek> Nei: even after, sudo apt-get install --reinstall build-essential
[05:58] <fatehaze> Now when I boot it starts loading normally, then I get an "Installing packages" screen
[05:58] <dan2005> medgno: nothing happens when i try " trash:/ " in konqueror
[05:58] <Nei> Stormx2, I cant find an explanation what the 'right packages' are
[05:58] <fatehaze> Frozen at 0%
[05:58] <deFrysk> fatehaze, sounds like a bad cd to me
[05:58] <medgno> dan2005, weird
[05:58] <Nei> robotgeek, I just used L on build-essentials in aptitude, that should be equivalent right
[05:58] <medgno> I'm not sure I can help then
[05:58] <robotgeek> dan2005: try trash:/// ?
[05:58] <fatehaze> Most likely
[05:58] <fatehaze> I can't boot from the cd though
[05:59] <deFrysk> fatehaze, try burning it again at a slower speed and make sure you have a correct md5sum
[05:59] <robotgeek> Nei: what do u mean L?
[05:59] <dan2005> ok
[05:59] <Stormx2> Nei: Reinstall gcc and cc, try installing the recommended and suggested packages too. Synaptic ;-)
[05:59] <Nei> robotgeek, 'L' means reinstall, aptitude command
[05:59] <fatehaze> I burned it on a cd-rw at 4x, does that make a difference?
[06:00] <Nei> Stormx2, it shouldn't matter whether I use synaptic or aptitude, right
[06:00] <deFrysk> fatehaze, sounds ok to me, did you do an md5sumcheck ?
[06:00] <Stormx2> Nei: Not at all, but for this kind of thing synaptic will tell you recommended and suggested packages
[06:00] <dan2005> trash:/// dont work to
[06:00] <sambagirl> hi i was going to use videolan for video streaming my shows and i need to know which version i should download?
[06:00] <Stormx2> fatehaze: Sometimes it does
[06:00] <fatehaze> How can one do that on an xp machine?
[06:00] <Stormx2> fatehaze: use expert mode to verify the disk
[06:00] <fatehaze> Check the checksum, that is
[06:00] <deFrysk> fatehaze, google for md5sum
[06:00] <Stormx2> fatehaze: There are programs to do it
[06:00] <fatehaze> k
[06:00] <FarrisG> I'm having a bitch of a time building a module for a BCM5704 ethernet controller for the amd64 ubuntu arch. Can anyone help?
[06:00] <fatehaze> How about with expert mode?
[06:00] <robotgeek> Nei: i don't see the the option
[06:00] <deFrysk> get md5sum.exe (or something)
[06:00] <Stormx2> fatehaze: Look up MD5 Checksum or something like that
[06:01] <Stormx2> fatehaze: Boot into the install cd, type expert, press enter
[06:01] <fatehaze> Anything I do at the initial boot menu (l for hd or c for cd) ends up at a frozen screen
[06:01] <fatehaze> k, will do
[06:01] <dan2005> anyone help, where or what folder can I find deleted files(trash)
[06:01] <dan2005> ?
[06:01] <robotgeek> fatehaze: http://www.nullriver.com/downloads/Install-winMd5Sum.exe
[06:01] <Stormx2> dan2005: Check the trash can in the corner
[06:01] <fatehaze> Phat
[06:01] <deFrysk> dan2005, doublklick the trashcan
[06:01] <Nei> robotgeek, gui ;)
[06:01] <fatehaze> Thanks for the help guys, I'll probably be back in a bit :)
[06:01] <osvaldo> hi
[06:01] <Stormx2> dan2005: Actual trash is stored in a hidden file in each folder you deleted from
[06:01] <osvaldo> any body can help me?
[06:02] <dan2005> I dont have that, i uses icewm
[06:02] <robotgeek> Nei: aptitude gui, ahh..never used that :)
[06:02] <osvaldo> to use the ubuntu os
[06:02] <Stormx2> dan2005: The file will be something like ".Trash-username"
[06:02] <dan2005> custom istall
[06:02] <osvaldo> i allready install it
[06:02] <Stormx2> dan2005: You need to view hidden files (hidden files start with .)
[06:02] <Rockett18> dan cd ~/.Trash
[06:02] <osvaldo> but i dont know many things
[06:03] <osvaldo> like recognize the hdd in mi pc
[06:03] <Nei> robotgeek, it's like text mode synaptic just better
[06:03] <osvaldo> or download apps to the sistem
[06:03] <robotgeek> Nei: apt-cache and apt-get are my friends. i use aptitude command sometimes :)
[06:03] <osvaldo> like real player
[06:03] <dan2005> tried cd ~/.Trash >> theres no sush file msg...
[06:04] <robotgeek> !tell osvaldo about mp3
[06:04] <robotgeek> osvaldo: read that link which ubotu sent you
[06:04] <osvaldo> yeh like play mp3s
[06:04] <deFrysk> cd .Trash without /
[06:05] <osvaldo> when i download the app
[06:05] <osvaldo> its bin
[06:05] <osvaldo> no exe
[06:05] <osvaldo> and i cant openit
[06:05] <dan2005> It still didnt work for me
[06:05] <thoreauputic> osvaldo: you don't open it, you run it
[06:05] <osvaldo> how?
[06:06] <Nei> now fix my problem :((
[06:06] <dan2005> deFrysk:cd .Trash without /   ->still dont work for me
[06:06] <Nei> you don't happen to have any idea how to debug this do you
[06:06] <linuxboy> Nei: whats your problem?
[06:06] <fgr> hello, im using breezy, just extended my log volume with lvextend, but df doesn't report the correct size of the extended volume
[06:06] <tommi^> Hi. What is gam_server process and why does it take lot of my cpu time?
[06:06] <german> hi, i'm new with linux
[06:06] <thoreauputic> osvaldo:  chmod +x filename - then do sudo ./realplayerfoo   (whatever it's called)
[06:06] <deFrysk> dan2005, cd /home/yourusername/Trash
[06:07] <Nei> linuxboy, I can't compile software, it claims my c compiler cant create executables,. see http://rafb.net/paste/results/5iVmKI32.html
[06:07] <Stormx2> dan2005: Use ls to get directory listings
[06:07] <jron> got my res working... now, pet peve #2... is it possible to keep the location bar open at all times in the file manager?
[06:07] <deFrysk> dan2005, install mc its a console-filemanager
[06:08] <linuxboy> Nei: you got buildutils installed?
[06:08] <deFrysk> dan2005, it shows also hidden files, might help
[06:08] <Stormx2> deFrysk: ls doesn't?
[06:08] <medgno> jron: go to gconf-editor  and then apps->nautilus->preferences, and set always_use_location_entry
[06:08] <Nei> linuxboy, I've got build-essentials installes
[06:08] <deFrysk> Stormx2, in his case I think he needs to "see" something
[06:09] <jron> thanks so much medgno
[06:09] <Stormx2> dan2005: Use "ls -a" to get directory listings including hidden files
[06:09] <linuxboy> Nei: try... getting some .c file and compiling it
[06:09] <Stormx2> then cd to the directory
[06:09] <osvaldo> alguien habla esapol
[06:09] <osvaldo> ???
[06:09] <linuxboy> Nei: (with gcc)
[06:09] <Stormx2> !es
[06:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:09] <linuxboy> Nei: just a shot in the dark...
[06:10] <dan2005> I use konqueror in icewm, my problem is i run out of disk space, so i delete file using konqueror, file was deleted but disk space is still the same.
[06:10] <Nei> linuxboy, well it says it can't find ld
[06:10] <Rawplayer> re
[06:10] <linuxboy> Nei: install ldconfig..
[06:10] <dan2005> and could not file the trash folder
[06:10] <osvaldo> i have installed ubuntu and i want to use it in the berst way
[06:10] <linuxboy> ?
[06:10] <dan2005> could not find
[06:10] <Stormx2> osvaldo: What do you mean/
[06:10] <osvaldo> for example i cant recognize the hdds in mi sistem
[06:11] <osvaldo> the slave
[06:11] <dan2005> locate trash
[06:11] <osvaldo> doesnt apear in the sistem
[06:11] <see> hey, i had to reinstall windows on a dualboot machine so grub has been overwritten, how do i reinstall it in the mbr? boot with a livecd and run"grub" or such (like one did for lilo)
[06:12] <osvaldo> #ubuntu-es
[06:12] <Nei> linuxboy, I have /sbin/ldconfig
[06:12] <DrBair> see: grub-install /dev/hda (or whatever drive it is)
[06:12] <linuxboy> Nei: I got no more ideas
[06:13] <see> drbair thnx
[06:13] <Nei> thanks for trying to help
[06:13] <see> will it detect the different os:s or is there some grub.conf in etc for that?
[06:14] <osvaldo> thnx
[06:14] <medgno> see: you'll need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to tell it to look for the other oses
[06:14] <german> who can tell me how to kwon my public IP using shell
[06:14] <see> med ok thanks
[06:14] <ubuntu> Dual-boot?
[06:14] <DrBair> see: but that file shouldn't have been clobbered by windows
[06:14] <n0odl3> configure: error: bbrb 0.2 needs GTK >= 1.2.0
[06:14] <n0odl3> does anyone know where i can get a newer version of GTK?
[06:15] <ubuntu> Try the yum repositories or the Gtk+ site
[06:15] <DrBair> n0odl3: thats an older version... GTK 1 and 2 are not compatible
[06:15] <n0odl3> oh
[06:15] <n0odl3> so does that mean i cant make bbrb .2 then?
[06:15] <DrBair> n0odl3: try grabbed GTK 1.x from synaptic
[06:15] <thoreauputic> n0odl3: you need gtk-dev or similar - search for that
[06:16] <DrBair> n0odl3: you can have gtk 1 and 2 on the same system at the same time
[06:16] <thoreauputic> probably gtk1.2-dev or something
[06:16] <n0odl3> DrBair: will it affect my computer in anyway (as in negatively)
[06:16] <DrBair> and yes, you'll need the dev version as mentioned
[06:16] <johnston> bonsoir a tous :)
[06:17] <DrBair> n0odl3: nope, GTK 1 and 2 will run side by side peacefully
[06:18] <robotgeek> Nei: i am really perplexed abt ur error
[06:19] <n0odl3> i cant seem to find GTK 1.x in synaptic
[06:20] <zauber> I was asked to do some LAMP-work on a new server for a client. Turns out it's ubuntu, which I haven't worked with before. I've only got so far as wanting to setup a database, but cant get my local client to connect to the servers mysql thread. The firewall also seems down or missing - is something going on here that's radically different from what I'm used to?
[06:21] <thoreauputic> peter@prospero:~ $ apt-cache search libgtk | grep dev
[06:21] <thoreauputic> libgtk1.2-dev - Development files for the GIMP Toolkit
[06:21] <thoreauputic> n0odl3: ^^^
[06:21] <robotgeek> zauber: you not able to connect to mysql-server? on ubuntu
[06:22] <boci^> hi
[06:22] <boci^> ubuntu not have dspam package?
[06:22] <robotgeek> Nei: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure build-essential
[06:23] <abarbaccia_> hey all - when i use ssh to open a program that requires X - it reports back "Cannot open display"  how do i fix this?
[06:23] <zauber> robotgeek: correct. Im using the mysql-administration gui from mysql ab, running it on my local computer,  pointing it to the ip of the server & default port. I set user to root, but no password, as no one has touched the dbase yet.
[06:23] <robotgeek> abarbaccia_: ssh -X
[06:23] <thoreauputic> abarbaccia_: use ssh -X
[06:23] <thoreauputic> abarbaccia_: note capital X
[06:23] <jron> any reason ubuntu wouldn't have detected my SB live? it's prob the most common soundcard out there.... =(
[06:23] <zauber> robotgeek: but no connection
[06:23] <robotgeek> zauber: try installing mysql-server-4.1
[06:24] <zauber> ok.
[06:24] <medgno> jron: are you on a dell computer?
[06:24] <zauber> with apt-get?
[06:24] <jron> no, medgno, just a home made one...
[06:24] <robotgeek> zauber: yeah, there's some weird bug in mysql-server package
[06:24] <zauber> okelidokeli
[06:24] <zauber> thx
[06:24] <jron> i can only think of one reason it wouldn't have detected it... it found the sound controler on my tv tuner card and then just stopped looking for audio devices...
[06:25] <jron> is there anyway to make it rescan? :P
[06:25] <abarbaccia_> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[06:25] <abarbaccia_>   robotgeek thoreauputic
[06:25] <medgno> jron, okay. does a sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1 do anything?
[06:25] <robotgeek> zauber: you also have to do a sudo man_db_install, i guess before it starts to work
[06:25] <mahangu> anybody got festival to work with kismet?
[06:25] <zauber> robotgeek: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[06:25] <zauber> Reading package lists... Done
[06:25] <thoreauputic> abarbaccia_: well that's a config issue
[06:25] <zauber> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:25] <zauber> mysql-server is already the newest version.
[06:25] <zauber> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:25] <zauber> xsys@xsys:/etc/mysql$ mysqld -V
[06:25] <zauber> mysqld  Ver 4.0.24_Debian-10ubuntu2-log for pc-linux-gnu on i486 (Source distribution)
[06:25] <robotgeek> zauber: don't paste in here.
[06:25] <zauber> robotgeek: sorry
[06:25] <thoreauputic> zauber: *never* do that again
[06:26] <zauber> will not
[06:26] <robotgeek> zauber: get mysql-server4.1
[06:26] <zauber> robotgeek: ah, I see
[06:26] <jron> medgno, that gives me no output... just a new line...
[06:26] <medgno> jron, that means it probably just loaded the drivers for your soundcard
[06:27] <zauber> robotgeek: it says: E: Couldn't find package mysql-server4.1
[06:27] <ruiwen> question again: does ubuntu read/write mac harddrives?
[06:27] <Nei> robotgeek, no go
[06:27] <zauber> robotgeek: even after apt-get update
[06:28] <jron> Sound Prefs give me no options for a "Default Sound Card," medgno
[06:29] <Lobo> question: does the ubuntu install allow you to setup LVM ?
[06:29] <DaveRag> Anyone here did the ISPConfig Perfect Setup I'm having trouble with receiving mail
[06:29] <robotgeek> zauber: mysql-server-4.1
[06:30] <brian_> my pc does not see my zen mp3 player any help out there
[06:30] <jron> shouldn't lspci -v list my soundcard?
[06:30] <jron> even if it isn't working?
[06:30] <Lobo> jron: yes
[06:30] <jron> weird, it isn't in there.... i wonder if it's dead...
[06:31] <zauber> robotgeek: now it says it has no installation candidate for the package, its missing, or available from another source or something. Edit source.list?
[06:31] <robotgeek> zauber: universe
[06:31] <zauber> robotgeek: url?
[06:32] <robotgeek> zauber: enable the universe repository
[06:32] <zauber> nevermind -google found it
[06:32] <thoreauputic> !tell zauber about sources
[06:32] <robotgeek> !tell zauber about repos
[06:32] <ruiwen> sorry, does ubuntu support read/write to mac harddrives? does anyone know?
[06:34] <zando> ruiwen, do you have ubuntu ppc?
[06:34] <ruiwen> zando: i do, but i don't have a mac to try it on
[06:34] <ruiwen> zando: thinking of giving it to mac users in school, but not sure if it can write to their drives
[06:35] <zando> ruiwen, you can
[06:35] <zando> ruiwen, /dev/hda10      /media/mac      hfsplus  rw,user,noauto  0       0
[06:35] <ruiwen> zando, that's on your machine? nice =) thanks
[06:36] <linxx> hello, i install minimal ubuntu and I deciding to which application to use in accessing network folder
[06:36] <zando> ruiwen, yes, it's on my machine
[06:36] <linxx> need your help, which is a lighter alternative to access network folder, konqueror, nautilus or install samba and linneighborhood
[06:37] <ruiwen> oh yes another qn, while running the ubuntu live cd, will it automount ntfs/fat partitions?
[06:38] <thoreauputic> ruiwen: I don't think so - it didn't for me anyway
[06:38] <Nei> my compiler suddenly finds ld when I export PATH
[06:38] <thoreauputic> ruiwen: I remember knoppix does that though
[06:38] <zando> ruiwen, you have to try ;)
[06:38] <zauber> ok got mysql updated - thanks everyone! - although I still don't seem able to connect from the outside.... And where is the firewall/iptables?
[06:38] <Nei> how do I fix this properly?
[06:38] <ruiwen> thoreauputio: but was the entry added to /etc/fstab?
[06:39] <thoreauputic> ruiwen: not sure to be honest
[06:39] <thoreauputic> ruiwen: why not try it and see?
[06:40] <thoreauputic> only tkes a few minutes...
[06:40] <n0odl3> thoreauputic: what does "n0odl3^^^" mean?
[06:40] <ruiwen> thoreauputio: yeah knoppix does.. was wondering if ubuntu did the same =)
[06:40] <ruiwen> thoreauputic, zando: will try =)
[06:41] <thoreauputic> n0odl3: I was pointing you to the libgtk you needed  hence ^^^^
[06:41] <ahoora> hi every one
[06:41] <thoreauputic> n0odl3: I also showed you how I found it (the command)
[06:41] <ahoora> can someone helo me with g++
[06:41] <ahoora> i dontknow how to install it on ubuntu :(
[06:41] <robotgeek> ahoora: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:42] <BooZee> where can I get some nice fonts?
[06:42] <ahoora> robotgeek thanks
[06:42] <dylan_> is there an alternative to the w32codecs package?
[06:42] <demank> halo
[06:43] <thoreauputic> n0odl3: peter@prospero:~ $ apt-cache search libgtk | grep dev
[06:43] <n0odl3> thoreauputic: do then i just type this file name is synaptic? or do i type sudo apt-get filename?
[06:43] <thoreauputic> thoreauputic libgtk1.2-dev - Development files for the GIMP Toolkit
[06:43] <thoreauputic> n0odl3: either search for it in synaptic or do  sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2-dev
[06:44] <n0odl3> k thnx
[06:45] <dylan_> does anybody know an alternative to the w32codecs?
[06:45] <dylan_> they dont appear in synaptic
[06:45] <Nei> robotgeek, vv
[06:45] <Nei> ailin@iz51fyiyj [2] % gcc test.c                                    ~ {=100,00%}
[06:45] <Nei> collect2: ld kann nicht gefunden werden
[06:45] <Nei> zsh: exit 1     gcc test.c
[06:45] <Nei> ailin@iz51fyiyj [3] % echo =ld                                      ~ {=100,00%}
[06:45] <Nei> /usr/bin/ld
[06:45] <Nei> ailin@iz51fyiyj [4] % export PATH                                   ~ {=100,00%}
[06:45] <Nei> ailin@iz51fyiyj [5] % gcc test.c                                    ~ {=100,00%}
[06:45] <thoreauputic> !w32codecs
[06:45] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).
[06:45] <Cryptid> i want to convert a mp3 file of128kpbs bitrate to a .ogg file of 64kbps how do i do this???
[06:46] <thoreauputic> Nei: sorry but pasting like that is not acceptable
[06:46] <dylan_> thoreauputic, thansk
[06:46] <Ropechoborra> Hu
[06:46] <Ropechoborra> Hi
[06:46] <ahoora> hey does anyone know how can i reg my nick?
[06:46] <thoreauputic> Nei: I'll remove the gag - don't do it again
[06:47] <frogzoo>  /msg nickserv help register
[06:47] <mahangu> how can i see if festival works
[06:47] <Nei> thoreauputic, can you help me?
[06:47] <n0odl3> brb
[06:48] <zenrox> how do you fis a seg fault
[06:48] <Cryptid> thoreauputic, i want to convert a mp3 file of128kpbs bitrate to a .ogg file of 64kbps how do i do this???
[06:48] <zenrox> fis=fix
[06:48] <fanopnaic> zenrox: write correct code
[06:48] <frogzoo> zenrox strace for starters
[06:48] <zenrox> not my code
[06:48] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: heh - I have no idea sorry
[06:48] <zenrox> and it just now started to break
[06:49] <zenrox> frogzoo,  that just spit out tones of non human readable code
[06:50] <frogzoo> zenrox, strace just spits out text - your term is garbled by something else
[06:50] <zenrox> frogzoo,  ya but none of it helps
[06:50] <mahangu> frogzoo, that HOWTO works!
[06:51] <zauber> Again: I have not worked with ubuntu before, so please bear with me: Apparently this fresh ubuntu server of mine will only take connections through ssh or apache. trying to telnet to port 3306 for instance does nothing. So it seems a firewall is locking me out. But I can't figure out how to stop/start the firewall. no iptables script in /etc/init.d/? How do firewalls work on ubuntu?
[06:51] <frogzoo> mahangu, glad to hear you had good luck with it
[06:51] <alexicon> hiya
[06:51] <mahangu> frogzoo, i just did insmod ipw2200.ko
[06:51] <mahangu> voila
[06:51] <mahangu> :)
[06:51] <alexicon> can anyone tell me which has more active development, nicotine or pysoulseek?
[06:51] <frogzoo> zenrox, stick the strace in a postbin & post the link
[06:51] <mahangu> (after compiling the drivers)
[06:52] <picca> mahangu, what version of ubuntu are you using
[06:52] <mahangu> picca, hoary
[06:52] <jron> so... using Synaptic, I can't really find half of the packages i wana install... tvtime, glftpd, pftp etc.... but all are listed on packages.ubuntu.com.... what am i doing wrong here? :P
[06:53] <alexicon> anyone anyone?? nicotine v. pysoulseek?
[06:53] <picca> i just installed breezy and got the intel 2200 wireless to work after much hunting around
[06:53] <robotgeek> !tell jron about repos
[06:53] <picca> my problem was getting wpa to work
[06:53] <robotgeek> zauber: more mysql issues?
[06:53] <jron> thanks :P
[06:54] <thoreauputic> !tell jron about sources
[06:54] <zauber> robotgeek: not sure its mysql any more... just cant figure out how to make sure the server allows connections on port 3306
[06:54] <zauber> which it does not at the time it seems.
[06:54] <robotgeek> zauber: check if mysqld is running. otherwise, 3306 will be denied anyways
[06:55] <mahangu> wierd
[06:55] <mahangu> my festival crashes
[06:55] <gooo> hey everybody, i am new here
[06:55] <mahangu> #<CLOSURE (text) (begin "(SayText TEXT)
[06:55] <mahangu> TEXT, a string, is rendered as speech." (utt.play (utt.synth (eval (list (quote Utterance) (quote Text) text)))))>
[06:55] <robotgeek> mahangu: don't paste in here!
[06:56] <gooo> could anybody help me with configuring Option Globetrotter PCMCIA card??
[06:56] <mahangu> robotgeek, sorry again, the copy function keeps being gay
[06:56] <thoreauputic> !gay
[06:56] <bina> hi ive just installed squirrel mail using the command apt-get isntall squirrelmail.  Anyone got an idea as to how to access it now? its not in my /var/www/ dir so im assuming its like webmin ni need to go localhost:something :)
[06:56] <robotgeek> gooo: have u tried searching on the wiki?
[06:56] <thoreauputic> !+gay
[06:56] <ubotu> [gay]  the dictionary says "Excited with merriment; manifesting sportiveness or delight; inspiring delight; livery; merry."  But some people don't know what it means, I guess  Some highly ignorant folks think it's an insult of some sort.  Who can tell why?
[06:56] <mahangu> what could be the problem with my festival?
[06:56] <zauber> robotgeek: msyqld and mysqld-safe are both on
[06:56] <gooo> ok i try wiki thx
[06:57] <robotgeek> bina: try dpkg -L squirrelmail | less , and see where it put the files. then you might have to either symlink/modify apache2.conf/httpd.conf
[06:58] <bina> ok thanks robotgeek
[06:58] <robotgeek> zauber: hmm, i dunno about the iptables stuff. i heard of a program call ipkungfu or something for managing iptables
[06:58] <trappist> :)
[06:58] <trappist> <-- ipkungfu author
[06:58] <robotgeek> trappist: well, well..maybe u can help zauber
[06:58] <Nei> robotgeek, you don't have any idea by chance :(?
[06:58] <bina> robotgeek: so add a virtual server that looks in that dir would work?
[06:59] <robotgeek> bina: hmm, it might work
[06:59] <bina> robotgeek: well one way to find out i suppose :)
[06:59] <robotgeek> bina: i'm a newb to all server stuff!
[06:59] <trappist> zauber: netstat -ntlp | grep 3306
[06:59] <robotgeek> Nei: my google's havent resulted in anything new.
[06:59] <zauber> trappist: yes please help! Although I'm still not sure its mysql or the server itself dropping connections
[06:59] <zauber> ah.. thanks
[07:00] <Nei> robotgeek, do you have any theory why PATH is exported when I log in on the vc but not when I log in to X?
[07:00] <asdfasdfasdf> hey what repositories can i use to get things like electric sheep and conky?
[07:00] <zauber> trappist: looks ok actually, 0.0.0.0:3306 LISTEN
[07:00] <robotgeek> Nei: is this a fresh install?
[07:01] <asdfasdfasdf> and how do i set up synaptic to use those repositories?
[07:01] <zauber> so maybe it is a mysql issue after all
[07:01] <trappist> zauber: and what happens when you try to connect? and, how are you trying to connect?
[07:01] <Nei> robotgeek, yes I am new to this stuff and just recently installed ubuntu 5.10
[07:01] <robotgeek> Nei: server version, right?
[07:01] <ubuntudude> MBR is in first 512 byes of /dev/hda or hda1? or is it the same?
[07:01] <trappist> zauber: that just says mysql is running and listening on port 3306 on all devices
[07:02] <CaBlGuY-OuT> I need an audio CD burner, k3b and serpentine sin't working, any suggestions?
[07:02] <Nei> robotgeek, no I installed a standard version
[07:02] <thoreauputic> ubuntudude: no it's not the same and the first is right
[07:02] <trappist> CaBlGuY-OuT: "isn't working"?
[07:02] <CaBlGuY-OuT> Nop[e, isn't working
[07:02] <gebharra> ubuntudude: should be hda if that's disk 0x80
[07:02] <robotgeek> Nei: okay, try this..sudo aptitude purge gcc && aptitude install gcc
[07:02] <gebharra> (or hd0)
[07:02] <trappist> CaBlGuY-OuT: I was trying to prompt you to be more informative.
[07:02] <n0odl3> thoreauputic: how did you search for that lib file again
[07:02] <ubuntudude> whats disk 0x80?
[07:03] <n0odl3> thoreauputic: apparently im missing another library
[07:03] <CaBlGuY-OuT> trappist,  file not supported..
[07:03] <fbn> is it possible to get the window list (same as window selector on gnome panel) with a key combination?
[07:03] <n0odl3> thoreauputic: IMlib or something like that
[07:03] <zauber> trappist: three ways: 1) with the gui called MySQL administrator. I enter the ip and no user / password (since locally I can get in with no user and password). That just stalls for a long time then crashes. 2) Telnet <ipadress> 3306, 3) in my local console: mysql -h <ipadress>. 2 and 3 just make me wait as nothing happens at all.
[07:03] <thoreauputic> n0odl3:  apt-cache search libgtk | grep dev
[07:03] <gebharra> first hard disk
[07:03] <asdfasdfasdf> anyone use conky?
[07:04] <robotgeek> asdfasdfasdf: yes, get it from http://conky.sf.net
[07:04] <trappist> zauber: what ip are you using? 127.0.0.1?
[07:04] <asdfasdfasdf> robotgeek, so there are no alternate repositories?
[07:04] <robotgeek> asdfasdfasdf: no need, it's there in the repos
[07:04] <Stormx2> Hi. I have a new ipaq driver, and to run it i have to ummod the current one and add this one. Is there a way this can be done automaticly? Do I need tor recomile the kernal or something?
[07:04] <asdfasdfasdf> robotgeek, it's not showing up in my synaptic
[07:04] <robotgeek> asdfasdfasdf: u need to enable universe repositories
[07:04] <robotgeek> !tell asdfasdfasdf about repos
[07:04] <n0odl3> asdfasdfasdf: just sudo apt-get conky
[07:04] <n0odl3> conky comes with ubuntu
[07:04] <sambagirl> anyone using videolan?
[07:04] <Nei> robotgeek, same old story. I think the problem is not with gcc but that my environment is broken for some unknown reason
[07:05] <robotgeek> sambagirl: vlc, yes?
[07:05] <zauber> in my.cnf on the server I have commented out the 'listen 127.0.0.1', and then I'm trying to connect to the server by it's real public ipadress from my local machine
[07:05] <robotgeek> Nei: maybe a reinstall :(
[07:05] <Nei> :((
[07:05] <zauber> trappist: can't tell you the ipadress I'm afraid
[07:05] <robotgeek> Nei: please do file a bug
[07:05] <sambagirl> i found there is debian version. but it saying i need to change /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:05] <Nei> this is what makes linux no joy
[07:05] <sambagirl> what can i use for editor? if this was amgia i would use opus.
[07:06] <Nei> I bet noone can reproduce it neway
[07:06] <robotgeek> sambagirl: vlc is there in the repos
[07:06] <sambagirl> what for ubuntu?
[07:06] <trappist> robotgeek: I don't recommend having mysql listen on a public ip address, but I can tell you how to let it through your firewall if you insist on doing that
[07:06] <robotgeek> sambagirl: nano/gedit/vi
[07:06] <trappist> oops
[07:06] <robotgeek> trappist: :)
[07:06] <trappist> zauber: I don't recommend having mysql listen on a public ip address, but I can tell you how to let it through your firewall if you insist on doing that
[07:06] <Stormx2> Hi, anyone?
[07:06] <sambagirl> when you say repos i just say get apt vlc ?
[07:06] <n0odl3> thoreauputic: how do you use that command? im trying to search for the file i have an error on (ImLib)
[07:06] <sambagirl> thanks robotgeek
[07:06] <trappist> zauber: also if you connect via the public ip it probably won't count as a local connection
[07:06] <CaBlGuY-OuT> Nei, the only way someone would be able to "break into" yur box is if they had the root pass, and since it's disabled or "closed off" by defualt, theres not alot to worry about
[07:06] <robotgeek> sambagirl: yes, u need to have universe repository enabled
[07:06] <robotgeek> !tell sambagirl about repos
[07:06] <sambagirl> haha
[07:06] <Nei> CaBlGuY-OuT, ?
[07:07] <sambagirl> ok
[07:07] <sambagirl> how can  i be sure i have that?
[07:07] <zauber> trappist:  well, I don't intend to keep it that way - I want to do it temporarily to set up some databases. Then I intend to secure it again.
[07:07] <thoreauputic> n0odl3: :/  just type    apt-cache search imlib | grep dev
[07:07] <CaBlGuY-OuT> !tell Nei  about root pass
[07:07] <CaBlGuY-OuT> !tell Nei  about root
[07:07] <mahangu> thoreauputic, festival is giving me errors, any suggestions
[07:07] <zauber> trappist: so please tell me how. knowledge never hurt any one... or did it?
[07:07] <zauber> :)
[07:07] <war-totem> can someone tell me how to unrar a bunch of files?
[07:07] <mahangu> im trying to get it to work with kismet
[07:07] <bina> robotgeek: success, it worked :)
[07:07] <war-totem> im not having any luck
[07:07] <war-totem> and i believe i have unrar free and non free
[07:07] <robotgeek> bina: nice!
[07:07] <Nei> CaBlGuY-OuT, thanks for the info but it doesn't really relate to my problem
[07:07] <trappist> zauber: I dunno why you don't just have it listen locally and do your stuff locally, but if you insist - iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 3306 -j ACCEPT
[07:08] <thoreauputic> n0odl3: I suggest you  install apthowto and run it - it tells you how to do this stuff
[07:08] <Hoxzer> >:) just hide my parents liquors
[07:08] <CaBlGuY-OuT> Nei,  NP, Im just sayin, no need to worry about security issues with Linux, MOST of the time
[07:08] <trappist> zauber: if that doesn't do it, use -I instead of -A
[07:08] <demank> halo
[07:08] <thoreauputic> n0odl3: sorry apt-howto I think is the name
[07:08] <Weidl> Hallo
[07:08] <Nei> CaBlGuY-OuT, I never worried about security .
[07:09] <robotgeek> Nei has bigger problems at hand :(
[07:09] <CaBlGuY-OuT> Nei,  then why u worried about givin trappist  yur IP??
[07:09] <Nei> did I?
[07:09] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-OuT: u misread the conversation, that was zauber
[07:09] <Weidl> OK
[07:09] <jbroome> security through obscurity is my favorite
[07:09] <CaBlGuY-OuT> robotgeek,  Oh my bad..  :p
[07:09] <robotgeek> Weidl: can we help you?
[07:09] <sambagirl> you said vi/edit/gedit/
[07:09] <Weidl> interessant
[07:09] <sambagirl> ?
[07:10] <Weidl> ich glaube nicht
[07:10] <war-totem> anyone know about unraring files on linux?
[07:10] <robotgeek> sambagirl: nano or gedit
[07:10] <sambagirl> okie dokie thank ou
[07:10] <gebharra> war-totem: yep
[07:10] <n0odl3> thoreauputic: bbrb needs ImLib >= 1.9.8
[07:10] <sambagirl> you
[07:10] <_jason> war-totem:  install unrar
[07:10] <robotgeek> war-totem: unrar x file.rar
[07:10] <Weidl> ciao
[07:10] <n0odl3> i did the grep but im not sure which one im suppose to install
[07:10] <trappist> CaBlGuY-OuT: also the way ubuntu is set up doesn't mean there's "not a lot to worry about" security wise, and having your root password is not the only way an attacker can compromise your box.
[07:10] <war-totem> robotgeek: thanks man, dont know how i forgot that ..
[07:10] <zauber> trappist: thanks, I could never get htose iptables figured out myself. the reason is... well, to be honest - although I'm ok with setting up databases in mysql through the console, I can never get the user-system figured out, so i'd like to use mysql administrator to do it since it can take care of different versions and passwords and all that. but I have to do it over ip-connection, cause I can't get physical access to the server. There you have the (
[07:11] <CaBlGuY-OuT> trappist,  I was sayin Linux in general..
[07:11] <robotgeek> zauber: hmm, ssh -X :)
[07:11] <thoreauputic> n0odl3: well read the output and see which one is relevant
[07:11] <CaBlGuY-OuT> trappist,  I know Linux can still be comrimised, but on a whole, it more secure than winblowz..
[07:11] <drummer> Having MAJOR problems re-installing VMWare on a re-install of Hoary.  Problems related to gcc.  Can someone help?
[07:11] <trappist> CaBlGuY-OuT: it's more securable than windows, but security is up to the admin, not the os.
[07:11] <robotgeek> drummer: what problems?
[07:12] <sambagirl> it say edit /etc/apt/sources.list does this look like right file? it is empty!
[07:12] <Nei> robotgeek, just fyi I did it quick and dirty and added an "export PATH=.." to my shell's rc
[07:12] <gooo> could anybody help me with configuring Option Globetrotter PCMCIA card??
[07:12] <thoreauputic> n0odl3: to see more info  type for instance   apt-cache show  libimlib2-dev
[07:12] <Nei> I don't believe this is the proper solution though
[07:12] <WhiteRabbit> CaBlGuY-OuT, what common attack method would you use to detour the security of a linux box?
[07:12] <sambagirl> anyone doing vlc streaming so i can see how it works?
[07:13] <robotgeek> Nei: hmm, as long as you don't have to reinstall :)
[07:13] <CaBlGuY-OuT> WhiteRabbit,  ummmmmm  brute force probably ..
[07:13] <drummer> robotgeek: I keep getting erorr messages about a gcc mismatch - vmware-config keeps aborting
[07:13] <trappist> tehehe.
[07:13] <WhiteRabbit> CaBlGuY-OuT, brute force what?
[07:13] <mahangu> robotgeek, any idea what that error message meant?
[07:13] <CaBlGuY-OuT> WhiteRabbit,  never really done one so I really don't know..
[07:13] <dennis__> Hi all
[07:13] <CaBlGuY-OuT> WhiteRabbit,  the root pass
[07:13] <robotgeek> mahangu: which one?
[07:13] <Nei> robotgeek, that might be true but I hate it when I do something and don't know why this works and do know that this is not the proper way to fix it :(
[07:13] <dennis__> I was wondering, how does one install tomcat? I've already used java-package to install java
[07:13] <trappist> drummer: export CC=gcc-3.4
[07:13] <CaBlGuY-OuT> WhiteRabbit,  or root account
[07:13] <trappist> drummer: if you have gcc-3.4 installed
[07:13] <zauber> robotgeek: sorry, no X installed on the server
[07:14] <mahangu> robotgeek, oh shit, i did killall esd, and it's spewing me everything :)
[07:14] <drummer> trappist: I tried that - no joy.
[07:14] <sambagirl> robogeek videolan is wonderful. it's the best i ever see other than demoscene.tv streaming
[07:14] <mahangu> robotgeek, everything it had in store
[07:14] <WhiteRabbit> CaBlGuY-OuT, what if they have root login turned off & extra secure options to log in even as a user with shh keys using 256bit triple-des
[07:14] <mahangu> brb
[07:14] <mahangu> gotta reboot
[07:14] <trappist> drummer: read the rest of the error.  it says your kernel was compiled with one version of gcc and your compiler is this version.  what are the details?
[07:14] <CaBlGuY-OuT> anyway, the reason I was in this channel was to find out if there was another CD burner I could install as the ones on my dektop aren't working
[07:14] <drummer> trappist: and yes gcc-3.4 is installed in /usr/bin
[07:14] <dennis__> debian has it on packages.debian.org, but ubuntu doesn't sem to have it
[07:14] <asdfasdfasdf> robotgeek, how do i enable Xft so that conky works normally
[07:14] <Nei> Stormx2, why did you spam me with /ctcp clientinfo finger ping userinfo ?
[07:14] <robotgeek> WhiteRabbit,CaBlGuY-OuT : #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:15] <dennis__> (tomcat, that is)
[07:15] <drummer> trappist: can copy a portion of the error message if you want
[07:15] <trappist> drummer: if it's a one-liner, feel free
[07:15] <robotgeek> asdfasdfasdf: i have mine disabled from what i see
[07:15] <trappist> drummer: else use the pastebin
[07:16] <smi|e> !breezy
[07:16] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:16] <CaBlGuY-OuT> so, CD burner other than k3b or serpentine, any takers??
[07:16] <robotgeek> asdfasdfasdf: so, in all probability..i dunno what you are talking about!
[07:16] <drummer> trappist: it's a little long - Never used the paste bin, how do I?
[07:16] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-OuT: k3b works wonderfully for me, it doesn't for you? how abt graveman?
[07:16] <Stormx2> Nei: I was testing out commands ^_^
[07:16] <thoreauputic> CaBlGuY-OuT: graveman, gnomebaker
[07:16] <robotgeek> !tell drummer about pastebin
[07:16] <trappist> drummer: /topic
[07:16] <adjacent> what package provides mysql headers?
[07:16] <trappist> or that
[07:16] <graabein> hello, i've got a couple questions
[07:17] <Nei> what's wrong with k3b?
[07:17] <CaBlGuY-OuT> robotgeek,  nope, file not supported is what I get..
[07:17] <axel_> is it possible to play quicktime *.mov in totem ?
[07:17] <robotgeek> adjacent: what are u trying to compile?
[07:17] <CaBlGuY-OuT> on both of them
[07:17] <adjacent> robotgeek: cactid
[07:17] <dennis__> !tell dennis__ about you
[07:17] <graabein> how do i make several rar-files instead of one large with file-roller?
[07:17] <thoreauputic> axel_: with w32codecs, yes
[07:17] <dennis__> just figuring out its name :)
[07:17] <emgee> I'm trying to install Skype but it complains... :
[07:17] <emgee>  skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); however:
[07:17] <emgee>   Version of libqt3c102-mt on system is 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3.
[07:17] <emgee> Can that be fixed somehow?
[07:18] <thoreauputic> axel_: but install totem-xine as well
[07:18] <axel_> thoreauputic: ah ok, ill look on the wiki, thx
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> graabein,  use the rar command line perhaps.
[07:18] <axel_> thoreauputic: why xine ?
[07:18] <graabein> allright, good idea, thanks
[07:18] <thoreauputic> axel_: it just works better :)
[07:18] <robotgeek> adjacent: apt-cache search mysql | grep dev
[07:18] <trappist> pfft.  it's all about mplayer.
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> graabein,  fileroller is just a front end to all the commands I think. Rar support in it is not that well done.
[07:19] <thoreauputic> axel_:  totem-xine looks the same but it handles more codecs etc
[07:19] <niksie> anyone know how to isntall tomcat on breezy badger?
[07:19] <axel_> thoreauputic: ok, ill do that
[07:19] <musik> how do i install transcode in ubuntu hoary?? its not in repos........
[07:19] <adjacent> robotgeek: i see. thanks
[07:19] <shwag> so did anyone else have the experience of all the firefox totem plugins totally NOT working?
[07:19] <robotgeek> graabein: unless u install unrar-nonfree
[07:20] <thoreauputic> shwag: they seem to work OK here
[07:20] <graabein> i've got rar... looking at the man file now
[07:20] <shwag> thoreauputic, reeeaaalllly
[07:20] <thoreauputic> shwag: but that' swith totem-xine
[07:20] <shwag> thoreauputic, oh..the online guide recommends the other one.
[07:21] <mc|amb> is there something wrong with -->  sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.1.3/carpeta /mnt/win
[07:21] <shwag> thoreauputic, I had to manually delete the totem plugins and now the mplayer plugins are working.  It was the first thing in Ubuntu I had to do that actually required me dropping into a command line.
[07:21] <niksie> should I just download tomcat and compile it manually? does anyone else actually have tomcat in apt-cache search ?
[07:22] <robotgeek> niksie: nope, it doesn't show up
[07:22] <_jason> niksie:  nope
[07:22] <drummer> trappist: figured out pastebin - the error info is in 4068
[07:22] <thoreauputic> shwag: hmm - well much to my surprise the totem plugins worked out of the box here once I installed totem-xine and w32codecs etc
[07:22] <musik> shwag: u could have removed that totem things with all its plugins via synaptic..
[07:22] <trappist> tomcat's not free, is it?
[07:22] <trappist> drummer: link?
[07:22] <Tomcat_> niksie: Search ubuntuforums.org... there are HowTos and many people who have installed it.
[07:22] <Tomcat_> trappist: It is.
[07:22] <niksie> thanks
[07:23] <alan> hi
[07:23] <musik> east or west, kaffiene is the best:)
[07:23] <axel_> thoreauputic: what abour installing w32 codecs on amd64 ??
[07:23] <trappist> Tomcat_: as in speech?
[07:23] <drummer> trappist: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4068
[07:23] <Tomcat_> trappist: As in beer and in speech.
[07:23] <robotgeek> axel_: i think u need 32 bit chroots and stuff
[07:23] <shwag> musik, well I use totem all the time just fine. It was just the plugins for mozilla that sucked.
[07:23] <thoreauputic> axel_: can't be done without a 32bit chroot I guess
[07:24] <musik> shwag: in totem u cant do slow motion while watching video, kaff can do that easily.....
[07:24] <thoreauputic> axel_: but I haven't used amd64
[07:24] <trappist> drummer: "For proper build you'll have to replace gcc with symbolic link to /usr/bin/gcc-3.3"
[07:24] <trappist> drummer: translation: ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.3 /usr/bin/gcc
[07:24] <jron> why am i getting this msg about 1 in 5 find attempts: find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for ./proc/7396: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.  Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.
[07:24] <robotgeek> drummer: sudo
[07:24] <trappist> drummer: or ln -sf if it already exists
[07:25] <thoreauputic> jron: I've seen that too - don't know the answer though
[07:25] <mc|amb> is this correct--> sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.1.3/carpeta /mnt/win
[07:26] <trappist> mc|amb: depends.  it's a valid command though.
[07:26] <drummer> trappist: wow could have sworn that was one of two dozen things I tried about 2AM, but I'll try again.
[07:26] <mc|amb> tarppist: depends on what?? my shares??
[07:26] <mc|amb> trappist: depends on what? my shares?
[07:26] <yohan> I tried installing xmms and mplayer but all the menus are so uglt
[07:26] <trappist> mc|amb: for one thing.  you might have better luck saying "when I run this command, this happens.  what am I doing wrong?"
[07:27] <yohan> should i install gtk2 or something?
[07:27] <yohan> or gtk2 version of xmms etc?
[07:27] <mc|amb> trappist: ok, just a sec
[07:27] <n0odl3> how do i take a screenshot?
[07:27] <n0odl3> in term?
[07:27] <trappist> n0odl3: import -window root filename.png
[07:27] <ahoora> hi all
[07:27] <thoreauputic> yohan: those appsare both gtk 1 - try beep-media-player for a gtk2 version of xmms
[07:28] <yohan> thanks thoreauputic
[07:28] <mcrawfor> hey, what's that meta-package that gets you all the build-essentials again?
[07:28] <yohan> should i try and only install gtk2?
[07:28] <graabein> okay, i got rar to work, great... now about gnomebaker -- it suddenly messes up my file names!
[07:28] <trappist> mc|amb: build-essential
[07:28] <mcrawfor> tee hee
[07:28] <Gdp_usrlam> Greetings from argentina
[07:28] <mc|amb> trappist, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4069
[07:28] <trappist> graabein: truncates and capitalizes?
[07:28] <mcrawfor> stupid plurals
[07:28] <thoreauputic> yohan: erm - up to you really - you don't install gtk2 as such, just the apps you want
[07:29] <graabein> trappist, hmmmm, truncates i guess...
[07:29] <yohan> thoreauputic: how do i start that music player?
[07:29] <trappist> mc|amb: can you ping that ip address?
[07:29] <graabein> trappist, it worked properly before, i swear, but i can't find any preferences
[07:29] <robotgeek> alrite, time to snooze! cya all later
[07:29] <thoreauputic> yohan: ?  beep-media-player appears in the gnome menu
[07:29] <yohan> thoreauputic: yeah but whats the command for it?
[07:30] <thoreauputic> yohan: or just type  beep-media-player
[07:30] <mc|amb> trappist: no, but the address i'm trying to connect can ping me
[07:30] <thoreauputic> or beep <hit tab>
[07:30] <trappist> graabein: I've never used the app, but certain cd filesystems are very picky about filenames.
[07:30] <yohan> thanks!
[07:30] <mc|amb> trappist: wait, yes I can ping that ip
[07:30] <trappist> mc|amb: my guess is you have a routing issue or a firewall issue.  if you can't ping it, you're not likely to be able to mount its shares.
[07:30] <trappist> ok.
[07:30] <axel_> Where o i have to start to get chroot ?
[07:30] <drummer> trappist:  Bless You, thank you, it f***ing worked!!!!!!
[07:30] <mey> !w32codecs
[07:30] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).
[07:30] <graabein> trappist, yep i know, but i've burned dvd's with it before... could it be a config file somewhere?
[07:30] <trappist> drummer: I forgot which problem what yours :)
[07:30] <trappist> graabein: yes, it could.
[07:31] <mc|amb> trappist: I can pint the ip... so what do you think is wrong??
[07:31] <trappist> mc|amb: try smbclient -L thatip
[07:32] <mc|amb> trappist: i've tried that and It doesn't work
[07:32] <trappist> drummer: oh you were the vmware guy.  you're welcome :)
[07:32] <ahoora> can some1 help me plz ... i have installed g++ and i want to start programming :( but i dont know how to run it
[07:32] <trappist> mc|amb: you don't get to say "doesn't work" in here.
[07:32] <drummer> trappist: Molto grazie.  ciao.
[07:32] <ahoora> when i type g++ it asks me for input file
[07:32] <trappist> drummer: any time
[07:33] <NigelS> ahoora: g++ is a c++ compiler, you need to provide it with your C++ source code and then it will compile it by default to a.out - otherwise with the -o switch to the file of your choice.
[07:33] <mc|amb> trappist: it says: timed out connecting to ip
[07:33] <trappist> ahoora: g++ is a compiler, not a development environment.  first you write code with a text editor, then you compile it with g++/
[07:33] <trappist> mc|amb: is the remote machine a linux box?
[07:33] <mc|amb> trappist, nope. windows
[07:33] <ahoora> so there is no user interface ?
[07:34] <trappist> mc|amb: I'm definitely thinking firewall.  is it windows xp?
[07:34] <trappist> ahoora: no
[07:34] <mc|amb> trappist: yep
[07:34] <NigelS> ahoora: there is a user interface, it's the command line - g++ is a compiler not an IDE, you're after a different program altogether
[07:34] <ahoora> is there any user interface program that can make it easier?
[07:34] <trappist> mc|amb: try turning off the firewall
[07:34] <trappist> ahoora: kdevelop
[07:34] <ahoora> my god linux is so hard
[07:34] <ahoora> lol
[07:34] <trappist> hehe
[07:35] <mc|amb> trappist: it had zonealarm turned on.,. so i turned it off ,and still nothing, or does xp has another firewall?
[07:35] <trappist> mc|amb: yes, it has one built in.
[07:35] <NigelS> ahoora: I suggest you get a book on C or some such, or download it from the web.  To make software, if you're a beginner programmer you should forget about an IDE for now.  Start with a text editor, like emacs, vim, kate and create your source like that.  Then run a compiler on it.
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> XP service pack 2 - disables lots of things with its firewall
[07:35] <trappist> lunch time.  bbiaf.
[07:35] <mc|amb> trappist: can you help me turn it off?
[07:36] <ahoora> trappist: after one year working with windows i was familiar with that what do you think how long does it take for me to become familiar with linux? lol
[07:36] <ahoora> Nigels thanks alot
[07:36] <ahoora> but what about libraries like conio.h and others does it accept them by default?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> ahoora: that depends on you
[07:37] <musik> NigelS: dont u think IDEs are better for newbies.....than emacs or vim!!!!!!!!!
[07:37] <ahoora> thoreauputic do you knowo any good online source for starters? i have started with linux.org lessons
[07:37] <sunyj> a moment ago,I installed debian,but when rebooting,occur "miss kernel and user mode driver hw_rendom",
[07:37] <NigelS> musik: absolutely not.
[07:37] <thoreauputic> ahoora: how much you learn and how fast depends on your effort
[07:38] <sunyj> what's "hw_rendom"
[07:38] <thoreauputic> ahoora: for basic commands try http://tuxfiles.org
[07:38] <ahoora> thank you i am checking it now
[07:39] <musik> NigelS: why not?? im also goign to begin c++ programming.....why u recommend emacs. vim.....these themselves require learning...
[07:39] <NigelS> ahoora: conio.h is a DOS header
[07:39] <sunyj>  a moment ago,I installed debian,but when rebooting,occur "miss kernel and user mode driver hw_rendom",
[07:39] <sunyj> why
[07:39] <thoreauputic> ahoora: if you are planning to stick with ubuntu or debian google for "apt howto" or install the  apt-howto package
[07:40] <sunyj> I could't install debian,but I can install ubuntu
[07:40] <thoreauputic> ahoora: if you install that package and run the command  apt-howto it will open in a browser
[07:40] <orbishek> hi
[07:40] <ahoora> thanks
[07:40] <NigelS> musik: they're text editors, plain and simple text editors.  You're welcome to use any text editor you like.  An IDE can get in the way, it doesn't help you program if you're just doing simple programs and it's best to understand them all yourself without any fancy features first.  If you like use nano, or gedit.  I suggested emacs or vim or kate as they have syntax highlighting and understand indentation which are nice thigs to have.  It's also *worth* learn
[07:41] <mc|amb> trappist: thanks!!!!!!!!!!! it was the fucking xp firewall
[07:41] <zooko> Dear Ubuntuists: I've already reported this bug, and now I'm asking for help in how to get my system usable again without screwing up /usr/bin/ldd...  http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18896
[07:41] <ahoora> from next week any one who'd have a problem can ask me LOL
[07:41] <orbishek> when  i try running real player ,i get "failed ti initialize child process,access denied" ,what's wrong
[07:41] <Chousuke> NigelS: nice rant.
[07:41] <x_or> Anyone know what switch I can provide to apt-get remove mysql-server to remove the data directories?  I want to completely obliterate the databases and reinstall.
[07:42] <musik> NigelS: thx for the help.....but IDEs also do indentation, highlighting etc...even debugging:)
[07:42] <n0odl3> trappist: it doesnt work
[07:42] <NigelS> Chousuke: not how I'd characterise it but you're welcome.
[07:42] <x_or> orbishek:  What sound manager are you using?
[07:42] <HappyFool> anyone know how to turn off the ipv6 listening port in dnsmasq?
[07:42] <ahoora> orbishek you are the lucky one because i installed it but there is only a shortcut here and nothing happens when i click it :D
[07:42] <n0odl3> trappist: do you know another way?
[07:42] <musik> whoa so many questions......
[07:42] <dducko> Does anyone know of an app fro converting image filetypes,  ie .tga to .jpg?
[07:42] <NigelS> musik: sure, but for linux it's good to learn to use the tools and use make files.  A lot of open source projects use them and it's nice to understand that process.
[07:43] <NigelS> dducko: imagemagick's conver should do that I think?
[07:43] <NigelS> convert*
[07:43] <dducko> thanks
[07:43] <zooko> How do I delete diversions?
[07:43] <orbishek> i'm new to this ,i dont get you ,what's a sound manager (in linux)
[07:43] <n0odl3> does anyone else know a way to take screenshot with term?
[07:44] <erUSUL> n0odl3, man xwd
[07:44] <thoreauputic> n0odl3:  if you install imagemagick you  can do   import -window root screen.png
[07:44] <Niomi> dducko, doesn't gimp do that?
[07:44] <troy14> help! I cant get a connection to mysql
[07:45] <thoreauputic> Niomi: he asked for "from terminal"
[07:45] <zooko> A-ha!  dpkg-divert.
[07:45] <dducko> I dont need that power just need to change them quickly... and I didnt check..
[07:45] <dducko> Gimp confuses me
[07:45] <Niomi> thoreauputic: oh, i'm sorry.. heh, maybe i need more tea
[07:45] <NigelS> convert is good because you can stick it in a bash script for mass conversions
[07:45] <musik> NigelS: what shud i use? emacs, vim or xemacs or something else??  and how do i learn these advanced editors in 1st place??
[07:45] <troy14> can anyone offer some suggestions as to why mysql cont connect?
[07:45] <HappyFool> both emacs and vim have built-in tutorials
[07:45] <troy14> acn't?
[07:46] <troy14> can't?
[07:46] <zooko> musik I use xemacs.  You start it, and then run the self-tutorial.
[07:46] <graabein> i found a setting for gnome baker in configuration editor called joliet... it's a checkbox. if i check it, will the filenames come out properly and not truncated??
[07:46] <FatDarel> Yo people what is up with the ubuntu xpdf its all messsed up man  . . . .
[07:46] <Bols> Does someone know the command to disable sudo plz?
[07:47] <FatDarel> yeah ...
[07:47] <WildZeck> apt-get remove sudo
[07:47] <FatDarel> Bols, use su :)
[07:47] <HappyFool> Bols: you mean maybe 'sudo -k' ?
[07:47] <NigelS> musik: you need to find the one that you're most comfortable with but yes they all have tutorials.  For example the command vimtutor starts a vim tutorial.  Emacs is v. powerful and effectively like an IDE when it's configured, e.g. you can issue compilations commands from within it etc and also has its tutorial
[07:47] <trappist> n0odl3: define "doesn't work"
[07:47] <WildZeck> do you want to remove it ?
[07:47] <Bols> HappyFool, hmm.. no, I just want to give a password to my root account
[07:47] <WildZeck> or desactivate it ?
[07:47] <troy14> !mysql
[07:47] <ubotu> it has been said that lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:47] <HappyFool> !tell Bols about sudo
[07:48] <FatDarel> NigelS, yes emacs is a very good IDE but i can never slesct a block of text inside vi
[07:48] <HappyFool> Bols: read that wikipage
[07:48] <n0odl3> thoreauputic: i c can i just sudo apt-get imagemagick?
[07:48] <orbishek> when i try to install my graphics card driver,it's searching for a compiler (not found),i thought it was packaged in ubuntu,how do i install it
[07:48] <musik> NigelS: thx....guess i'll go with emacs....can u tell me whats diff between emacs & xemacs?
[07:48] <WildZeck> sudo passwd -u root
[07:48] <thoreauputic> n0odl3:  sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[07:48] <Jemt> Greetings. I have installed Firestarter which needs to run as root. Currently I use 'gksu firestarter' to start the program as root. But this program contains a password wallet and keeps asking me to save the password. Does Ubuntu come with another program than gksu?
[07:48] <James> hi folks - I'm still using Hoary and I'm having some problems with the CD burner feature in Nautilus.
[07:48] <NigelS> musik: one is in a terminal, the other is graphical
[07:48] <HappyFool> Jemt: tried 'gksudo' ?
[07:49] <thirso> orbishek: $ sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:49] <FatDarel> i cannot get any PDF support on ubuntu what the .. is going
[07:49] <Jemt> HappyFool: nope, I'll try that -thanks ! :)
[07:49] <FatDarel> Jemt, sticky biut it
[07:49] <emgee> Anyone here using skype?
[07:49] <emgee> Can't hear people..
[07:49] <emgee> Other sounds in ubuntu works fine
[07:49] <Jemt> FatDarel: ?
[07:49] <thoreauputic> FatDarel: on breezy the default is the  evince viewer
[07:50] <FatDarel> Jemt, stick bit ...
[07:50] <musik> PJeremy: sorry dude...no idea...never tried to alter those..
[07:50] <WildZeck> FatDarel, ??? i run acrobat reader from adobe acrobat reader
[07:50] <Jemt> FatDarel: What is 'stick bit' ?
[07:50] <FatDarel> thoreauputic, what is it again ..
[07:50] <orbishek> thirso: i dont have internet in linux (modem bug),only online via windows
[07:50] <thoreauputic> FatDarel:  evince
[07:50] <FatDarel> WildZeck, i am on x86_64 that's the problem
[07:50] <ahoora> Nigels could you plz tell me how can i write a simple program to cout a sentence ... i wrote the program but it generates error : cout :undeclared
[07:50] <WildZeck> FatDarel, and ?
[07:51] <WildZeck> FatDarel, all i386 package work on i64
[07:51] <WildZeck> do you try it ?
[07:51] <trappist> ahoora: /join #c++
[07:51] <FatDarel> WildZeck, acrobat jsut doesn't start i type acroread wait a second and then it dies with a SIGKILL
[07:52] <thoreauputic> FatDarel: try evince - it's really very good
[07:52] <WildZeck> try Xpdf
[07:52] <FatDarel> WildZeck, i am on x86_64/amd64
[07:52] <Ng> FatDarel: you should try evince because it is very good. Do you have ia32-libs installed? or did you install in a 32bit chroot?
[07:52] <WildZeck> FatDarel, i run i386 knoppix on that AMD 64 it's works fine
[07:52] <FatDarel> I get an acrorad , then a Abort
[07:53] <FatDarel> Ng, let me check that ia32-libs thingy
[07:53] <graabein> i found a setting for gnome baker in configuration editor called joliet... it's a checkbox. if i check it, will the filenames come out properly and not truncated??
[07:53] <FatDarel> WildZeck, it should I think the ubuntu libs are not all there for me
[07:53] <Ng> graabein: joliet extensions give you long filenames in windows, rockridge extensions give you long filenames and ownership/permissions in linux
[07:53] <orbishek> thirso:does it require internet connection,  i dont have internet in linux (modem bug),only online via windows,
[07:54] <Ng> graabein: generally enabling both is probably the best solution :)
[07:54] <erUSUL> graabein, joliet is for cd aimed at windows rockridge the same for unix. i enable both
[07:54] <graabein> thanks guys, ill try it out
[07:54] <FatDarel> Ng, looks like I got the ia32-libs
[07:54] <Taa5i> What does it mean when it says there are no installation candidates, for something which appears in the apt-get install tab-completion list?
[07:54] <graabein> dinner time. later...
[07:55] <WildZeck> FatDarel, acrobat reader 5.0.9 may 2004 here
[07:55] <Ng> FatDarel: hmm, I would have expected acroread to run then, but not all 32bit stuff is happy on amd64. Looks like you'll be trying evince or xpdf ;)
[07:55] <Ng> FatDarel: or installing a 32bit chroot
[07:55] <FatDarel> WildZeck, the acrobat reader 7 is what i am trying
[07:55] <musik> or buying intel:)
[07:55] <FatDarel> Ng, xpdf fails
[07:55] <FatDarel> Ng, got docks for a choroot 32bit ?
[07:55] <Ng> musik: amd64 is a nice platform, I'm on it now, just in 32bit mode ;)
[07:55] <WildZeck> FatDarel, use the 5.0 version all static build ...
[07:55] <FatDarel> This is going to take more time than I know
[07:56] <FatDarel> than I have  . . .
[07:56] <musik> Ng: im noob....are there any advantages of amd over 1386??
[07:56] <Ng> FatDarel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot should do I think
[07:56] <WildZeck> FatDarel, sudo apt-get install xpdf evince
[07:56] <n0odl3> trappist: where do i find the snapshots when im done taking them?
[07:56] <WildZeck> fast , efficient
[07:56] <trappist> n0odl3: in the directory you're in
[07:57] <trappist> n0odl3: if you do import -window root shot.png you'll have a shiny new shot.png
[07:57] <runedude> hey guys i got a q
[07:57] <Ng> musik: price mostly, but they're pretty nippy, especially if you do run them in 64bit mode
[07:57] <runedude> what iso should i dl for a 64bit on a Intel arch?
[07:57] <WildZeck> acrobat reader 5 works everywhere ...
[07:57] <WildZeck> 7 ... ?
[07:57] <Blissex> runedude: its the same for AMD and Intel 64 bit...
[07:57] <Ng> runedude: IA64 or EMT64?
[07:57] <musik> Ng: i see....
[07:58] <runedude> erm
[07:58] <runedude> im not exactly sure
[07:58] <runedude> i am using a x86-64 processor
[07:58] <Taa5i> Specifically I want to be able to get Colortail, please.
[07:58] <Blissex> runedude: if you are asking, it is not an Itanic...
[07:58] <ahoora> :( somebody help me i dont want to come back to windows .... can someone pass me a simple program that can be complied by gcc ?
[07:58] <runedude> ah
[07:58] <runedude> its prolly EMT64 then
[07:58] <Blissex> runedude: yes, and is the same as AMD64.
[07:58] <Ng> runedude: you can either choose the amd64 one if you want 64bit, or the i386 one if you want 32bit (slower, but more compatible)
[07:58] <runedude> is it?
[07:58] <NigelS> ahoora: you need iostream.h to be included
[07:58] <runedude> hm
[07:59] <runedude> i was thinking of trying the amd64 livecd
[07:59] <runedude> to test comptability
[07:59] <ahoora> Nigels i have already included it
[07:59] <sorush20> guys all flash content seems to be infront of my other web page content in firefox what should I do?
[07:59] <trappist> ahoora: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~rhoads/Obfuscated_C/12bugs.of.c
[07:59] <Blissex> runedude: it is almost identical, so the same binaries work on botjh, it just requires a tiny few changes in the kernel, and they both there.
[07:59] <runedude> also, if i burn the amd64 iso image to a dvdr, can i boot via a dvd drive?
[07:59] <Blissex> runedude: ideally yes...
[07:59] <Blissex> runedude: unless the DVD drive is _really_ old.
[07:59] <runedude> no
[07:59] <runedude> its new
[07:59] <runedude> i just got this computer in august
[08:00] <runedude> i guess its worth a shot
[08:00] <runedude> so
[08:00] <runedude> http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/breezy/ubuntu-5.10-live-amd64.iso
[08:00] <runedude> would be good?
[08:00] <Ng> runedude: the amd64 version is fine if you don't care too much about windows video formats and running commercial binary software. Many things can be made to work with the 32bit compatibility libs you can install, or there is the option to have a 32bit parallel install, but that can be a little messy
[08:00] <Ng> runedude: yep
[08:01] <runedude> okay
[08:01] <runedude> thanks
[08:01] <smi|e> hi all
[08:01] <smi|e> just come home from work
[08:01] <smi|e> ://
[08:01] <NigelS> ahoora: #include <iostream.h> int main( void ) { cout << "test string\n"; return 0; } and then g++ ./<file> -o <outputname>
[08:01] <smi|e> anyone need support?
[08:01] <musik> i do:)
[08:01] <matw> Hi, how can I get a list of packages available from 'universe' only?
[08:01] <smi|e> musik: how can i help
[08:01] <musik> i cant install dvdrip.......says depends on transcode.....but not going to be installed......
[08:01] <smi|e> matw load synaptic
[08:01] <musik> smi|e: i cant install dvdrip.......says depends on transcode.....but not going to be installed......
[08:02] <matw> got that, but it shows from 'main' also
[08:02] <smi|e> musik: sudo apt-get install dvdrip
[08:02] <smi|e> matw: use filter
[08:02] <matw> I want 'universe' only
[08:02] <matw> filter is in synaptic?
[08:02] <smi|e> matw should be in settings/preferences
[08:02] <smi|e> matw sure is
[08:02] <matw> ok thanks let me try it
[08:02] <smi|e> matw:  your welcome
[08:03] <smi|e> musik: it work?
[08:04] <musik> following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:04] <musik>   dvdrip: Depends: transcode (>= 2:0.6.14) but it is not installable
[08:04] <musik> E: Broken packages
[08:04] <smi|e> not sure
[08:04] <musik> smi|e: im on hoary....using hoary sources.list which ubotu gave
[08:04] <budluva> anyone here familiar with installing winecvs via linux-gamers.net WineCVS.sh?
[08:04] <smi|e> musik: update too breezy
[08:04] <smi|e> most things work better on breezy
[08:04] <smi|e> hi apokryphos
[08:04] <budluva> just wondering if i need the actual wine package installed?
[08:05] <apokryphos> smi|e: hi
[08:05] <No1Viking> Are there any new guide, like ubuntuguide.org for Breezy out there?
[08:05] <Taa5i|lunch> smi|e: I could use some help.  I wish to install colortail, but apt-get says it has no installation candidate, despite it showing up in the apt-get install tab-completed list.  How might I resolve this, please?
[08:05] <musik> smi|e: i tried kubutnu breezy.....too slow for me.....thats why back to hoary...much faster & less buggier....thx anyways
[08:05] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: have you updated your sources.list?
[08:05] <smi|e> musik: ubuntu breezy badger
[08:06] <smi|e> ubotu tell musik about breezy
[08:06] <musik> smi|e: i cant stand gnome:)
[08:06] <Booboo> can somebody tell me how to install programs in gnome
[08:06] <smi|e> musik install kubuntu-desktop on gnome?
[08:06] <smi|e> Booboo: what program you want?
[08:06] <mc|amb> whats the command to unmount a samba share??
[08:06] <Taa5i|lunch> smi|e: I just ran apt-get update a few moments ago, in fact.  I have universe main multiverse and restricted set in sources.list
[08:06] <erUSUL> Taa5i|lunch, there is no colortail package in breezy at least in official repos
[08:06] <Booboo> kopete
[08:07] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: You on Breezy?
[08:07] <smi|e> Booboo: sudo apt-get install kopete in terminal should do it
[08:07] <smi|e> :)
[08:07] <Taa5i|lunch> smi|e: I am.  Fresh install a couple days ago.
[08:07] <musik> smi|e: did that already.....the moment kubuntu-desktop came...i began having weird probls....like i wud land up in console mode for no reason!!
[08:07] <Booboo> ill try
[08:07] <NigelS> mc|amb: sudo umount <mountpoint>
[08:07] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: ok
[08:07] <ahoora> NigelS thanks .. i am trying it
[08:07] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: let me deal with musik
[08:07] <Taa5i|lunch> erUSUL: Curious, when I type apt-get install colortail it shows it as an option.
[08:07] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: give me 5 mins
[08:07] <Taa5i|lunch> smi|e: Certainly, thank you.
[08:07] <fsmw> jdub, ping
[08:08] <smi|e> musik i use xubuntu desktop - kubuntu desktop - edubuntu desktop
[08:08] <thoreauputic> Taa5i|lunch: that is odd indeed since the package doesn't exist :)
[08:08] <smi|e> all on ubuntu
[08:08] <smi|e> works fine for me
[08:08] <mc|amb> NigelS, thanks
[08:08] <Taa5i|lunch> thoreauputic: I would be open to using an alternative that accomplished the same thing, if such exists.
[08:08] <thoreauputic> Taa5i|lunch: apt-cache search and apt-cache policy know nothing about ti
[08:08] <thoreauputic> *it
[08:08] <smi|e> Booboo: did that work
[08:08] <erUSUL> Taa5i|lunch, another package refers to it, but it is not there
[08:08] <musik> smi|e: looks like im not so lucky..others are also having same prob with kubuntu breezy....im waiting for dapper:)
[08:08] <smi|e> musik hmm im not too sure
[08:09] <Znarl> Is there anyone here who had problems with the us archive mirror yesterday?
[08:09] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: ok whatsup?
[08:09] <thoreauputic> Taa5i|lunch: what does it do exactly?
[08:09] <musik> smi|e: lets just wait for dapper duck:)
[08:09] <Taa5i|lunch> thoreauputic: It color-codes tail logs, for ease of reading/monitoring.
[08:09] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: what did you want?
[08:09] <thoreauputic> Taa5i|lunch: I think root-tail does that
[08:10] <smi|e> ah thoreauputic is helping ya :)
[08:10] <CookedGryphon> hi, my gdm stopped loading after i tried out kde, it jstu goes to a text login and i have to start the x server myself, where do i set gdm to run instead>?
[08:10] <Taa5i|lunch> smi|e: I don't quite understand apt, I guess.  Hitting tab in apt-get install foo shows a list of things matching foo, but some of them don't actually exist it appears [eg colortail] 
[08:10] <thoreauputic> Taa5i|lunch: but getting root-tail to work in gnome is difficult as nautilus draws the desktop
[08:10] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: use synaptic
[08:10] <Taa5i|lunch> thoreauputic: I use E, actually.
[08:11] <arkey> hola, oigan como le hago para ver un disco ntfs, ay estan todas mis canciones?
[08:11] <Taa5i|lunch> smi|e: Thank you, I'll look at that.
[08:11] <thoreauputic> Taa5i|lunch: ah OK - well try root-tail then
[08:11] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: Your more than welcome ;)
[08:11] <Taa5i|lunch> thoreauputic: Thank you, I'll look into it.
[08:11] <CookedGryphon> arkey #ubuntu-es
[08:11] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, update-rc.d gdm defaults
[08:11] <thoreauputic> Taa5i|lunch: it's in universe
[08:11] <CookedGryphon> erUSUL thanks
[08:11] <arkey> CookedGryphon nadie contesta
[08:12] <Taa5i|lunch> Fetching it now.
[08:12] <erUSUL> arkey, vete a #ubuntu-es
[08:12] <arkey> nadie me contesta ay
[08:12] <ahoora> NigelS: how can i run the output file ? it makes a.out which is said to be : "ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped"
[08:13] <erUSUL> arkey, entro yo ahora espera un momento
[08:13] <HappyFool>  ./a.out
[08:13] <onkarshinde> I upgraded from hoary to breezy. But I don't see that USplash thing.
[08:13] <trappist> ahoora: ./a.out
[08:13] <ahoora> oh thanks
[08:14] <CookedGryphon> erUSUL it says System startup links for /etc/init.d/gdm already exist. will it have done anything?
[08:15] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, then it is not a problem of startup scripts for some reason gdm won't start
[08:15] <smi|e> bbl all
[08:15] <thoreauputic> CookedGryphon: be sure the file  /etc/X11/default-display-manager  exists and contains /usr/bin/gdm
[08:15] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, check the config of gdm and the logs
[08:15] <smi|e> cya thoreauputic
[08:16] <jacktrades> hello ppl
[08:16] <jacktrades> can anyone help me with a problem in evolution?
[08:16] <thoreauputic> CookedGryphon: sorry apparently on breezy it's /usrsbin/gdm
[08:16] <thoreauputic> ?usr/sbin/gdm
[08:16] <fredy> i get an error when trying to install with apt-get, backports repo not available
[08:17] <onkarshinde> Can anyone help me please?
[08:17] <onkarshinde> I upgraded from hoary to breezy. But I don't see that USplash thing.
[08:17] <thoreauputic> fredy: comment backports out  in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:17] <ahoora> i am quite new to linux .... is there any shortcomings if i use gcc in compare with windows compilers?
[08:17] <erUSUL> onkarshinde, ask
[08:17] <thoreauputic> fredy: there aren't any yet
[08:17] <HappyFool> ahoora: no windows.h ;)
[08:17] <thoreauputic> ahoora: rather the reverse
[08:18] <fredy> thoreauputic: thnx
[08:19] <erUSUL> ahoora, Ansi C should work the same in any decent compiler
[08:19] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: install ubuntu-artwork-usplash  (or whatever it's called)  then do  sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[08:19] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: Will try
[08:20] <budluva> !pastebin
[08:20] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:21] <jacktrades> does anybody have this problem when making an appointment in evolution: "There is no calendar available for creating events and meetings"???
[08:21] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: actually there doesn't appear to be a separate package for the ubuntu usplash - but the dpkg-reconfigure is the key to it
[08:21] <Wombat_Willy> hi
[08:21] <Blippe> hi
[08:22] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: You mean reconfigure the linux-image ... right?
[08:22] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: yes
[08:22] <Wombat_Willy> does anyone know where I can get a copy of libpthread.so.0 and libc.so.6?
[08:22] <Wombat_Willy> i broke mine
[08:22] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: the command I gave will reconfigure the right one   $(uname -r)
[08:26] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: In the output of reconfigure here is one line. "Searching for splash image... none found, skipping..."
[08:26] <dell500> anyone know how to refresh the gnome panel?
[08:26] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: yes I saw that too - it still seems to work though
[08:26] <thoreauputic> go figure...
[08:27] <thoreauputic> dell500:  killall gnome-panel
[08:27] <thoreauputic> dell500: it comes back ;)
[08:27] <Booboo> Smi|e it seems i do not get it, it is my firt time in the linux gnome world, i like it here and i start to hate windows, heheh but can you explain it step by step
[08:27] <HiddenFl1> If I install a program that has dependencies with apt-get and later I uninstall the program, it doesn't remove its dependencies even if any other software doesn't use them, right?
[08:27] <OneSeventeen> I forgot, what's the command to add a user to a group?
[08:27] <dell500> thoreauputic, do you happen to know how to get the fglrx control to work?
[08:27] <trappist> HiddenFl1: right
[08:28] <thoreauputic> dell500: no, sorry
[08:28] <Juhaz> dell500, what do you mean by refresh? menu items?
[08:28] <dell500> Juhaz, ya
[08:28] <ahoora> guys i want to apply chmod to all files and subdirectories included in a special dir .... how can i do that?
[08:28] <trappist> OneSeventeen: sudo vi /etc/group
[08:28] <HiddenFl1> Is there anyway I would make it to remove them?
[08:28] <trappist> ahoora: chmod -R
[08:28] <dell500> anyone know how to get the fglrx-control to work?
[08:28] <HiddenFl1> And propably to check if they are needed by any other package.
[08:28] <thoreauputic> HiddenFl1: right - you can use aptitude - it does that
[08:28] <cusco> hi!
[08:28] <HiddenFl1> thoreauputic: ok thanks
[08:28] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: There is one problem with menu.lst. Whenever I add, remove or reconfigure any linux0image package it deletes any extra entries (ex. Windows entry) from menu.lst. Is there any bug for this?
[08:28] <matw> OneSeventeen, 'adduser <username> <groupname>'
[08:29] <cusco> I need help big time on my network interfaces... I don't know where to start
[08:29] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: woah - scary :(
[08:29] <Juhaz> dell500, they should automatically refresh, as long as gam is working, but when something goes wrong, killing it is indeed the only way to force reload
[08:29] <OneSeventeen> matw: perfect!
[08:29] <matw> cool
[08:29] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: I haven't seen that happen here - maybe someone else can reproduce/confirm
[08:30] <OneSeventeen> now how do I tell what group a folder belongs to?
[08:30] <trappist> OneSeventeen: ls -l filename
[08:30] <matw> seveas, where do I report a FreeNX bug?
[08:30] <onkarshinde> OneSeventeen: ls -l into parent folder
[08:30] <Seveas> matw, if it's a bug with my packages: me
[08:30] <matw> how to send you email?
[08:30] <mclamb> ;asldkj
[08:30] <erUSUL> OneSeventeen, ls -l? nautilus?
[08:31] <matw> or bulletin board you'll see
[08:31] <OneSeventeen> trappist/onkarshinde/erUSUL: cool, thanks
[08:31] <OneSeventeen> erUSUL: SSH (no gui installed)
[08:31] <Fanskapet> hmm what's the name in english for the service connecting your bank account directly to a company's billing system?
[08:32] <matw> seveas, where (how) can I send you a bug report?
[08:32] <erUSUL> OneSeventeen, mc then ;)
[08:33] <OneSeventeen> erUSUL: mc?
[08:34] <erUSUL> OneSeventeen, midnight commander
[08:35] <matw> seveas, where (how) can I send you a bug report?
[08:35] <OneSeventeen> erUSUL: ahhh, yeah, that's in universe, and I'm being a panzy =P  (production webserver, so my boss wants it as easily supported as possible, which means no extra repositories for me :( )
[08:36] <onkarshinde> I am trying to uninstall python. But it asks for whole lot of other packages to be uninstalled. Some of them are file-roller and gdm. I don't understand how are they dependent on Python.
[08:36] <yanqi> hi
[08:36] <HappyFool> onkarshinde: at a guess they are python programs
[08:36] <Seveas> matw, sorry was busy with 3 other things :)
[08:37] <Tomcat_> onkarshinde: They probably depend on some functionality that needs python.
[08:37] <Seveas> matw, dennis@ubuntu.com
[08:37] <onkarshinde> HappyFool: GDM is not.
[08:37] <matw> thanks
[08:37] <erUSUL> onkarshinde, they are partially written in python??
[08:37] <erUSUL> onkarshinde, or whole?
[08:37] <fatehaze> Anyone have an idea why my "Add programs" doesn't work?
[08:37] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[08:37] <ubotu> methinks doesn't work is something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[08:38] <fatehaze> Would refuses to work be more accurate?  I click on it an nothing happens.
[08:38] <yanqi> does someone knows if ubuntu works with the livebox
[08:39] <HappyFool> onkarshinde: neither is file-roller. also, 'apt-cache depends file-roller' doesn't list python; must be a second-or-more level dependency.
[08:39] <onkarshinde> HappyFool: That might be the case.
[08:39] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: you might be able to drag and drop from the menu entry and make a launcher, then read the command in the properties, run it in a terminal ( I can't try this as I'm in fluxbox)
[08:40] <fatehaze> k, I'll give it a shot
[08:40] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: if that is possible it might show an error
[08:40] <Tomcat_> onkarshinde: Why do you want python uninstalled anyway? There are lots of things that need it, from full programs to simple scripts...
[08:40] <HappyFool> onkarshinde: ah, looks like it might be launchpad-stuff
[08:41] <matw> /etc/apt/sources.list says 'universe' packages are "UNSUPPORTED", but there's a 'universe' security repository? Are there security updates to 'universe' packages?
[08:41] <thoreauputic> matw: yes, they are "community" supported
[08:41] <Tomcat_> matw: They are unsupported by the Ubuntu people. But the Universe community might still deliver security updates.
[08:41] <onkarshinde> Tomcat_: I thought that I installed it in hoary. I have upgraded to breezy. But it is my mistake. I just installed some addons. Python was there already.
[08:41] <matw> thanks everyone
[08:42] <fatehaze> Well, terminal says "command not found" when I try to run gnome-app-install.desktop
[08:42] <thoreauputic> matw: that just means Canonical can't support universe directly
[08:42] <fatehaze> In fact, terminal says that for just about everything
[08:42] <tekeo> I want to make auto mount on my sata drive (ntfs) out it into /mnt/windows and do so I can use it with any user
[08:42] <fatehaze> No make either
[08:42] <onkarshinde> fatehaze: You can't run .desktop thing from terminal
[08:42] <fatehaze> Hmm
[08:43] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: try gnome-app-install  ;)
[08:43] <onkarshinde> fatehaze: Are you in GUI?
[08:43] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: tab completion is your friend :)
[08:43] <fatehaze> Ah, ok, thoreuputic was right :D
[08:43] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:43] <tekeo> I want to make auto mount on my sata drive (ntfs) to /mnt/windows and also make it useable with my ordinary user
[08:44] <tekeo> I've been googeling for quite some time..
[08:44] <onkarshinde> tekeo: Breezy?
[08:45] <tekeo> Breee?
[08:45] <tekeo> what
[08:45] <onkarshinde> tekeo: What version of Ubuntu?
[08:45] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: to run gnome-app-install you'll need  gksudo gnome-app-install  BTW
[08:46] <sryan> I'm confused..
[08:46] <tekeo> 64 bit
[08:46] <stas> hi
[08:46] <sryan> Someone got a second for a newbie? :(
[08:46] <stas> I tried "upgrading" 5.04 -> 5.10
[08:46] <matw> sure
[08:46] <sryan> configure: error: "cannot find libjpeg support"
[08:46] <sryan> root@argon:/home/sryan/Desktop/hpijs-2.1.4#
[08:46] <stas> and everything is retardedly fucked up
[08:46] <sryan> How would I solve that issue?
[08:46] <stas> NOTHING works
[08:46] <tekeo> I don't know
[08:46] <onkarshinde> !tell tekeo about ntfs
[08:46] <sryan> I tried apt-get install libjpeg but that didn't cut it.
[08:47] <thoreauputic> sryan: what are you compilingand why?
[08:47] <onkarshinde> stas: How did you try to upgrade?
[08:47] <stas> Is there anyway I can fix things? or is Windows for me?
[08:47] <sryan> Hopefully, going to compile drivers for my HP laserjet 4 plus.
[08:47] <stas> I went to "synaptic"
[08:47] <sryan> Everything I tried that came with Ubuntu hasn't worked.
[08:47] <stas> and I changed the "repositories"
[08:47] <stas> to breezy
[08:47] <onkarshinde> sryan: What are you trying to so?
[08:47] <stas> instead of hoary
[08:47] <sryan> I'm trying to install the HP drivers...
[08:47] <sryan> but, they're bombing out due to no libjpeg support.
[08:47] <onkarshinde> stas: Then what?
[08:47] <thoreauputic> sryan: should be included by default - I have a laserjet 6L here
[08:48] <sryan> They are, but they're not working for some reason.
[08:48] <sryan> I mean, the command gets to the printer but it's garbage that prints.
[08:48] <stas> Then, I "Marked All Upgrades"
[08:48] <stas> and "Applied"
[08:48] <E0x> what is the name of package with the all tools for compile ?
[08:48] <stas> and then I rebooted
[08:48] <sryan> I tried everything driver available for it. :(
[08:48] <E0x> build-essencial or something like that ?
[08:48] <stas> and for some reason I got twice as many choices for booting
[08:48] <thoreauputic> sryan: try a different driver
[08:48] <onkarshinde> stas: You should have read the upgrade notes first.
[08:48] <stas> but I just picked the top one
[08:48] <sryan> thoreauputic:  I tried all of em!
[08:48] <sryan> that's why I wanna get this HP driver from HP to maybe work.
[08:48] <onkarshinde> stas: What happens then?
[08:48] <thoreauputic> sryan: :(
[08:48] <sryan> heh.
[08:49] <stas> I followed the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:49] <stas> oh, then it loads
[08:49] <sryan> Gotta be an apt-get for libjpeg i would assume..
[08:49] <stas> but I can't open anything
[08:49] <onkarshinde> stas: Can you login?
[08:49] <stas> x-chat just loads on startup for me
[08:49] <thoreauputic> sryan: it would be a -dev package
[08:49] <stas> so that's why I can use it
[08:49] <stas> yeah I can log in :)
[08:49] <stas> but now that I'm here
[08:49] <stas> all the icons are Xs
[08:49] <fatehaze> What Programming packages should I install to be able to make sources?
[08:50] <stas> none of the things on Applications/System work
[08:50] <matw> syran, apt-get has lots of flags, maybe there's one for "get all dependencies". Just a guess on my part
[08:50] <stas> everything is broken
[08:50] <stas> text is missing from some places
[08:50] <thoreauputic> fatehaze:  build-essential is the first
[08:50] <stas> firefox used to be in Russian, but now isn't
[08:50] <stas> (firefox loads on startup with xchat)
[08:51] <onkarshinde> stas: Open root terminal from applications->System tools and issue a command dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop. This will require a long time.
[08:51] <fatehaze> Er, don't see that one
[08:51] <onkarshinde> stas: Your system wide settings may be lost. But user data and settings will be preserved.
[08:51] <thoreauputic> fatehaze:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:51] <stas> and that will fix everything?
[08:52] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: it's in main - it's even on the CD I think
[08:52] <stas> how do I opn a terminal?
[08:52] <ahoora> can someone gimme the command to dl g++ plz
[08:52] <trappist> sudo apt-get install g++
[08:52] <little_bob> hi. anybody experienced with a iomega rev usb drive?
[08:52] <Seveas> ahoora, apt-get install build-essential
[08:52] <matw> fatehaze: try 'apt-cache search <command>' where <command> is the name of a tool that you want to use, like "make"
[08:53] <fatehaze> k
[08:53] <thoreauputic> matw:  make is included with build-essential
[08:53] <ahoora> thanks i wanted to copy some .h libraries from windows ... some of them are overwrited on linux libs and my g++ doesnt work lol
[08:53] <kvidell> more gstreamer updates huh?
[08:53] <matw> just a general way to find what package somethings in is all I'm suggesting
[08:53] <stas> it says "Cannot display location '' Details: there's no default action associated with this location
[08:54] <onkarshinde> stas: just press Alt+F2 and then gnome-terminal
[08:55] <Arinux> hey all i am new to xchat\
[08:55] <tekeo> it didn't work so well for me... with the auto mounting thing
[08:55] <Arinux> i want to connect to an irc channel how can i do it?
[08:55] <tekeo> the disks gets mounted
[08:55] <Absenth> use /j #chanel
[08:55] <trappist> Arinux: /join #channel
[08:55] <fatehaze> Rockin', downloading now
[08:55] <tekeo> but I can't play music from them
[08:56] <stas> ok
[08:56] <stas> it's done
[08:56] <stas> now what
[08:56] <Absenth> Trappist, you a Chimay drinker?
[08:56] <fatehaze> Ok, here's another noob question: how do I run binaries I download from the web?
[08:56] <Arinux> no means irc server is irc.americasarmy.com
[08:56] <trappist> Absenth: of course :)
[08:56] <Arinux> how can i connect to it
[08:56] <fatehaze> I extract them to their own dir in my home directory, but double-clicking them does nothing
[08:56] <stas> 'stas@spitfire:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop
[08:56] <stas> stas@spitfire:~$
[08:56] <Absenth> trappist, red, blue, or cream label?  :)
[08:56] <onkarshinde> stas: sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop
[08:56] <trappist> Arinux: that's a server, not a channel.  /newserver irc.americasarmy.com
[08:56] <trappist> Absenth: I'm a red guy
[08:56] <fatehaze> Trying to execute it from the terminal just gives me a command not found
[08:57] <tiredbones> I'm using Breezy and trying to change the resolution. I use system -> preference -> screen resolution. The screen doesn't let any values to be change. How to change the resolution?
[08:57] <Arinux> it says looking up newserver may be u missplled it!
[08:57] <onkarshinde> fatehaze: from the directory where binaries are stored type './command-name'
[08:57] <trappist> fatehaze: chmod +x filename;./filename
[08:57] <Absenth> Arinux, when you launch x-chat the server list comes up under where you set your Nick.  if the server you're trying to connect to isn't listed, add a new one.
[08:57] <fatehaze> Ah, ok
[08:57] <onkarshinde> tiredbones: What is current resolution and what is your monitor size?
[08:57] <fatehaze> Now it just says cannot execute binary file
[08:57] <Absenth> trappist,  I'm partial to the blue myself.
[08:58] <onkarshinde> fatehaze: What have you downloaded?
[08:58] <ahoora> :( how can i uninstall g++?
[08:58] <trappist> Absenth: a lot of people are.  nobody seems to like the white :)
[08:58] <trappist> ahoora: apt-get remove g++
[08:58] <stas> onkarshinde, I did!!
[08:58] <thoreauputic> fatehaze:  chmod +x binaryfile
[08:58] <stas> stas@spitfire:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop
[08:58] <fatehaze> I downloaded both ZSNES and SNES9x for linux
[08:58] <Absenth> trappist, I can drink the white, but only after a 750 or 2 of the blue.
[08:58] <stas> stas@spitfire:~$
[08:58] <trappist> 13:57 <trappist> fatehaze: chmod +x filename;./filename
[08:58] <onkarshinde> stas: Is it showing any progress?
[08:58] <tiredbones> onkarshinde, 680x400 and the monitor size 17".
[08:58] <erUSUL> !tell tiredbones about fixres
[08:59] <fatehaze> Still gives me "cannot execute binary file"
[08:59] <onkarshinde> tiredbones: You may want to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the resolutions yourself.
[09:00] <trappist> fatehaze: file filename
[09:00] <erUSUL> ahoora, apt-get install buildesentials
[09:00] <tiredbones> onkarshinde, thanks
[09:00] <matw> fatehaze: what are the permissions on the binary file "ls -l binaryfile"
[09:00] <erUSUL> tiredbones, read what ubotu told you
[09:00] <thoreauputic> ahoora:  build-essential  actually
[09:00] <tekeo> how do I install mplayer
[09:00] <fatehaze> ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (Linux), statically linked, corrupeted section header size
[09:01] <ahoora> can i delete incluse libraries by hand?
[09:01] <tekeo> I keep failing when I try...
[09:01] <trappist> fatehaze: the file is broken
[09:01] <trappist> fatehaze: or it's not done downloading yet
[09:01] <erUSUL> ahoora, ??
[09:01] <tiredbones> erUSUL, what is fixres? No, I screwed up and deleted it. Can ubotu resend?
[09:01] <benkong2> what is the effect of running a dns server behind a linksys router on my web server? trying to setup ispconfig??
[09:01] <tiredbones> ubotu, can you resend your message?
[09:01] <ubotu> No idea, tiredbones
[09:01] <erUSUL> !tell tiredbones about fixres
[09:02] <thoreauputic> tiredbones:  /msg ubotu fixres
[09:02] <fatehaze> Well, I downloaded it and extracted it from the tar.gz
[09:02] <erisco> where can I get support for a Hercules 3d prophet 4000xt? when I boot up ubuntu, it cannot load the graphical interface.
[09:02] <fatehaze> The other binary gives me something different:
[09:02] <stas> onkarshinde, it finished instantly
[09:02] <trappist> fatehaze: file reports that the header is corrupted
[09:02] <ahoora> i destroyed some of them while using g++ after uninstalling g++ iostream and others are still there .... will i lose something if i remove them by hand and install g++ again?
[09:02] <sryan> mwhaha, it's called libjpeg-dev
[09:02] <sryan> woohoO!
[09:02] <Van-atwork> someone may help me with installing ubunto
[09:02] <fatehaze> ELF 32-bit LS8 executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[09:02] <Van-atwork> it seem not want to partition my server
[09:02] <onkarshinde> stas: Are there any packages yet to be upgraded?
[09:02] <tekeo> can't find package mplayer or mplayer-386
[09:02] <Absenth> I hate waiting for dist-upgrade to complete :(
[09:02] <Earthen> how do i find out what my default gatway in
[09:03] <erisco> is there a general thing to fix this?
[09:03] <trappist> fatehaze: that one looks fine
[09:03] <tiredbones> ubotu, I'll check this. thanks
[09:03] <ubotu> tiredbones: Wish i knew
[09:03] <Van-atwork> poweredge 6400 dell with raid 5. Ubunto seem not want to want to partition it
[09:03] <erisco> or is this something no one has come across
[09:03] <thoreauputic> !tell tekeo about repos
[09:03] <Absenth> can anyone recommend which of the synaptic kernels is best for a pentium-M laptop?
[09:03] <fatehaze> That one gaves me the same "cannote execute binary file"
[09:03] <thoreauputic> tekeo: mplayer is in multiverse
[09:03] <trappist> fatehaze: you're not running 64 bit, are you?
[09:04] <James> Hi I am trying to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy.  I tried doing this through Synaptic but I'm not sure it worked.
[09:04] <onkarshinde> stas: Try 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get dist-upgrade' once
[09:04] <erisco> is there a place I can look with relative information about this?
[09:04] <erUSUL> Absenth, i686
[09:04] <onkarshinde> James: And why do you think so?
[09:04] <fatehaze> Nah, I'm running an old iBook clamshell
[09:04] <Absenth> erUSUL, danke.
[09:05] <trappist> fatehaze: a mac?
[09:05] <fatehaze> Yup
[09:05] <James> Onk - well, because I'm not sure I changed the right thing in Synaptic.
[09:05] <trappist> fatehaze: that's why.
[09:05] <fatehaze> Think the architecture is the problem?
[09:05] <James> I went to Synaptic, Repositories
[09:05] <fatehaze> Curses
[09:05] <James> and then clicked on one of the repositories
[09:05] <James> and changed the distro from Hoary to Breezy
[09:05] <James> and then hit mark upgrades, and then Apply
[09:05] <James> and there were only 3 files
[09:05] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: what makes you think binaries designed for i386 would run on a mac?
[09:05] <onkarshinde> James: Paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin.
[09:05] <Absenth> where might I locate a "howto" add the ability to play mp3's
[09:06] <Seveas> !mp3
[09:06] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[09:06] <fatehaze> Being a newbie makes me think that
[09:06] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[09:06] <cevizoglu> my logs don't seem to work in Gaim.  Is there a trick to making it work?
[09:06] <erUSUL> !tell Absenth about mp3
[09:06] <fatehaze> If I knew what I was doing I wouldn't be here
[09:06] <Van-atwork> someone nknow why ubuntu doesnt detectd my hardisk SCSI with raid5 during the installation. icant partition hardisk. thanks you
[09:06] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: :) Point taken
[09:06] <James> onk - pardon me, but what is Paste Bin?
[09:06] <fatehaze> Am I going to run into this problem with every binary?
[09:06] <matw> fatehaze: :)
[09:06] <Absenth> danke again
[09:06] <onkarshinde> James: Did you first 'Reload' which will update list of packages to be updated
[09:07] <trappist> !tell James about pastebin
[09:07] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: yes if they are i386 binaries
[09:07] <stas> onkarshinde, stas@spitfire:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:07] <stas> Reading package lists... Done
[09:07] <stas> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:07] <stas> Calculating upgrade... Done
[09:07] <stas> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:07] <stas> stas@spitfire:~$
[09:07] <fatehaze> I can assume that I won't find a lot of powerpc binaries floating around?
[09:07] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: use the apt/synaptic system
[09:07] <James> Onk, yes I reloaded, there were maybe 61 files.  The upgrade thing took care of 3 of them.
[09:07] <cusco> does anyone here has a wireless device and uses broadcom 4301 drivers?
[09:07] <matw> trappist, please tell me about pastbin too
[09:07] <trappist> fatehaze: you need to either download source and compile for your platform or download binaries for your platform.
[09:07] <trappist> matw: /msg ubotu pastebin
[09:07] <fatehaze> Oh, so if I make install a file, it'll run?
[09:07] <erUSUL> stas, please do not paste here
[09:07] <matw> thanks
[09:08] <trappist> fatehaze: ./configure && make && make install
[09:08] <onkarshinde> stas: I don't understand why everything is a mess.
[09:08] <trappist> generally
[09:08] <fatehaze> k, I think I can deal with that
[09:08] <James> ok, give me a moment to locate that file for you, and then I will paste it
[09:08] <fatehaze> Compiling zsnes now :)
[09:08] <stas> sorry
[09:09] <fatehaze> Oh, hm, I need NASM installed
[09:09] <trappist> fatehaze: I think you can apt-get install nes emulators for your platform
[09:09] <James> by the way, should that repository have been binary?  I think I chose Source
[09:10] <fatehaze> Can't find package
[09:10] <fatehaze> How can I browse the available apt-get packages?
[09:10] <Van-atwork> apt-cache search
[09:10] <ahoora> how can i fix    my files in  /usr/include/c++/3.3/backward/ ?????         lots of .h files were there
[09:11] <trappist> fatehaze: synaptic
[09:11] <James> I have pasted /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin
[09:11] <fatehaze> Ah, ok
[09:11] <Van-atwork> someone nknow why ubuntu doesnt detectd my hardisk SCSI with raid5 during the installation. icant partition hardisk. thanks you
[09:11] <onkarshinde> fatehaze: nasm is there in universe repositories.
[09:11] <Seveas> fatehaze, or http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:11] <stas> :(
[09:11] <stas> ok
[09:11] <Van-atwork> it seem to miss some raid module on the CD installation
[09:11] <stas> back to windows we go
[09:11] <onkarshinde> stas: May be try forums stating exactly what you did.
[09:12] <axel_> i love ubuntu
[09:12] <fatehaze> Sweet, I totally thought "Add Applications" was synaptic
[09:12] <stas> maybe Ubuntu 17.33 airy aardvark will work
[09:12] <Absenth> Van-atwork,  I suspect it doesn't recognize the Raid controller.  I however don't know how to get around it other then perhaps recommending trying "+ubuntu +lsi 5720"  without the quotes in google.....  where the lsi blah blah blah is the make/model of your raid controller
[09:12] <PJeremy> does anyone know what to do so that the ctrl keys can be used to select several files in kubuntu?
[09:13] <James> Onk, from my pastebin, line 008: "deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted"
[09:13] <ahoora> how can i fix    my files in  /usr/include/c++/3.3/backward/ ?????         lots of .h files were there any suggestion ? :(
[09:13] <FarrisG> for some reason, one of my machines isn't automatically mounting /home at boot
[09:13] <Absenth> Van-atwork,  I ran into that problem with openBSD on dell Dimension 1850 systems with the LSI SCSI card which i currently unsupported by the fine people out of Calgary Alberta.
[09:13] <UnIData> joj
[09:13] <Seveas> ahoora, install the build-essential package
[09:13] <UnIData>  +f+
[09:13] <UnIData> f
[09:13] <FarrisG> It's in fstab properly
[09:13] <UnIData> f
[09:13] <UnIData> f
[09:13] <FarrisG> but I always have to go in and "mount /home" when it reboots
[09:13] <marie-eve> hi
[09:13] <onkarshinde> James: That line is for source packages. You can comment it. Try command 'sudo apt-get update'
[09:13] <marie-eve> how to start telnetd manualy ?
[09:14] <ahoora> Seveas i remove it and install it again but there is no fix in this directory :|
[09:14] <James> onk, thanks, i'll try that in just a second
[09:14] <ahoora> i moved all files from there to see if any change happens
[09:14] <tekeo> can't play mp3 files from my sata disc (I don't know if I can do it at all)
[09:14] <Seveas> !mp3
[09:14] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[09:14] <Absenth> tekeo, I suspect !mp3 will cover it :)
[09:14] <onkarshinde> marie-eve: 'sudo /etc/init.d/telnetd start' should work.
[09:15] <James> onk, a bunch of things run through... I get some trouble from a mirrormax hoary backport, and then I get two little error messages.
[09:15] <vaggelis> hi
[09:15] <Absenth> marie-eve,  is there a reason you require telnet over ssh?  (not trying to start a fight, more curious then anything else)
[09:15] <|meheren|> can anyone plz tell me if there is a way to safly remove hardware like a wireless card?
[09:16] <trappist> |meheren|: pcmcia?
[09:16] <ahoora> hey guys  ... how can i fix    my files in  /usr/include/c++/3.3/backward/ ?????
[09:16] <onkarshinde> James: Okay comment out any backport thing as there is no backport for breezy yet
[09:16] <vaggelis> i have a problem with my usb modem(Crypto adsl modem F200) any ideas?
[09:16] <|meheren|> ?
[09:16] <Absenth> |meheren|,  if you disable the device in the network configuration, it "should" "maybe
[09:16] <Absenth>  be safe to remove.
[09:16] <tekeo> and how to get !mp3?
[09:16] <|meheren|> ok
[09:16] <topyli> i want to build topylibuntu for my colleagues at work. ubuntu, a relevant choice of packages, a theme of my choice. is this possible for the common man?
[09:16] <trappist> |meheren|: /etc/init.d/pcmcia stop
[09:16] <onkarshinde> tekeo: What do you want to do?
[09:16] <thoreauputic> ahoora: maybe you would get more help in a C++ channel
[09:17] <James> Onk, I posted the message I received after typing "sudo apt-get update" to the pastebin, should be up there now.
[09:17] <tekeo> play mp3 files from a sata (ntfs) drive with my ordinary user
[09:17] <ahoora> no help there as well :|
[09:17] <Absenth> !tell kekeo about mp3
[09:17] <theblue> Hi all.
[09:17] <Absenth> bah
[09:17] <Absenth> !tell tekeo about mp3
[09:17] <trappist> we should just put !mp3 on a 1-minute cron
[09:17] <ahoora> mehran tavakol bar khoda kon bekesh biroon ye chizi mishe dige :D
[09:18] <Seveas> !tell tekeo about ntfs
[09:18] <Seveas> ahoora, stick to english in here
[09:18] <topyli> yeah there's another one
[09:18] <x86i> Stupid question. I installed Ubuntu using the
[09:18] <onkarshinde> tekeo: See if gstreamer0.8-mad package is installed.
[09:18] <vaggelis> anyone who can help me?
[09:18] <thoreauputic> *sigh* weekends are getting worse
[09:18] <Absenth> trappist,  that's an AWESOME idea :)
[09:19] <ahoora> sir yes sir
[09:19] <x86i> Stupid question. I installed Ubuntu using the 'server' option, did what I was playing around with, now I want gnome. I've installed with 'apt-get install gnome-core' , now how do I start it?
[09:19] <erUSUL> vaggelis, ask
[09:19] <Ng> x86i: install ubuntu-desktop
[09:19] <Absenth> x86i,  sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[09:19] <thoreauputic> ahoora: pay attention to the ops :)
[09:19] <matw> vaggelis: go ahead and ask your question
[09:19] <x86i> ah
[09:19] <onkarshinde> James: Comment out backport url. Close Synaptic
[09:19] <fatehaze> To install SDL I need libsdl, right?
[09:19] <oidia> a graphical ftp server?
[09:19] <James> okay, I have done both
[09:19] <erUSUL> x86i, better install ubuntu-desktop
[09:19] <x86i> thanks, was unaware of that option
[09:19] <Absenth> x86i,  insert an "install" between apt-get and ubuntu desktop
[09:20] <tekeo> hadn't that one installed
[09:20] <onkarshinde> james try 'sudo apt-get update' again
[09:20] <vaggelis> i have a problem with my modem Crypto adsl modem F200
[09:20] <James> ok!
[09:20] <Absenth> x86i,  also you have the option of xubuntu-desktop (xfce4) and kubuntu-desktop (kde)
[09:20] <vaggelis> i canot make it work in ubuntu
[09:20] <Van-atwork> someone nknow why ubuntu doesnt detectd my hardisk SCSI with raid5 during the installation. icant partition hardisk. thanks you
[09:20] <Van-atwork> it seem to miss some raid module on the CD installation
[09:20] <theblue> I'm trying to share a Lexmark 3200 printer on a network, attached to the only parallel port on my system, how would I go about doing this with just the commandline?
[09:20] <x86i> Where might I have found that package, without asking? I didnt see it in the documention
[09:20] <Absenth> Van-atwork,  Which raid card do you have
[09:20] <James> Onk - E: Type 'universe' is not known on line 35 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list   ..... I will comment that out, I guess
[09:21] <erUSUL> oidia, pureftpd
[09:21] <oidia> anyone know a ftp server with a graphical interface?
[09:21] <onkarshinde> James: Instead paste your sources.list in pastebin
[09:21] <oidia> tnx
[09:21] <James> Onk - OK, just a second
[09:21] <topyli> oidia: why would a server have a gui?
[09:21] <jareth_> oidia: gftp
[09:22] <x86i> Another question, to add to my previous. Is there an option to install the ubuntu desktop without all the applications already there?
[09:22] <jareth_> oop... sorry
[09:22] <Absenth> Van-atwork, kinda hard to help if you don't answer questions critical to the troubleshooting process.
[09:22] <Jemt> Hi. I' running Apache2 with PHP5 on my Breezy installation. Unfortunately it is not running very well. When I use the PHP function 'file_get_contents()' I get this error : 'php_network_getaddress: getaddrinfo failed: Temporary failure in name resolution in /var/www/test.php on line 6'. Is there someone who can help me with this odd problem? The PHP script works great on my web hotel.
[09:22] <onkarshinde> oidia: Install proftpd and then webmin-proftpd
[09:22] <nagual> How can i change permissions on a directory to say all read write execute.
[09:22] <|meheren|> so i disabled it now it should be safe to remove right?
[09:22] <trappist> nagual: chmod a+rwx
[09:22] <James> Onk - I have pasted my sources list.  It looks like maybe there was a line-wrap thing, and I should have commented those out too.  (Sorry, I'm new at this.)
[09:23] <puff> I just found this wonderfully annoying image (http://www.myblog.fr/images/articles/img_8406_55938_1.jpg), I'd like to add it to my screensaver options.  How do I do this?
[09:23] <topyli> x86i: desktop, no apps? perhaps installing gnome-core or something
[09:23] <x86i> topyli: I've done the apt-get install gnome-core , but I cant start it.
[09:24] <nagual> trappist, will that change permissions on all subdirectories too?
[09:24] <holycow> novel is hacking away their suse desktop stuff
[09:24] <holycow> thank god
[09:24] <trappist> nagual: chmod -R a+rwx
[09:24] <topyli> x86i: i guess it doesn't install a proper X. try installing x-window-system or some such metapackage also
[09:24] <holycow> they should be offering support for ubuntu frankly
[09:24] <tekeo> some media could not be loaded
[09:24] <tekeo> etc etc
[09:24] <onkarshinde> James: You see your sources.list hasn't changed at all. Change all occurances of hoary with breezy
[09:24] <tekeo> I think something is wrong with SATA
[09:24] <holycow> they have the infrastructure to offer deep services
[09:24] <erUSUL> nagual, chmod -R (for recursive)
[09:25] <onkarshinde> James: Except in first line
[09:25] <vaggelis> where can i find information about Crypto USB ADSL modem?
[09:25] <James> er, oh, I thought it was for that one part only.  okay, I will try that too -- leaving the CD line aside for now
[09:25] <Absenth> holycow, but they would have a hard time explaining to the share holders why they are offering support (which costs money) on a product the stand to make less then a dime on.
[09:25] <onkarshinde> James: Do you have Breezy CD?
[09:25] <James> no
[09:25] <onkarshinde> James: It will make upgrade less time consuming
[09:25] <PJeremy> does anyone know what to do so that the ctrl keys can be used to select several files in kubuntu?
[09:26] <x86i> topyli: Hrm, thanks. I guess I was looking for an overly simple way to get the Ubuntu Desktop, with all the admin features, but minus the 'apps'
[09:26] <James> Onk - yes, I know that the CD would simplify things, but Hoary won't let me burn CD's for some reason.  It's yet another headache, but not what I'm after today.
[09:26] <erUSUL> PJeremy, nothing they Just Work (tm)
[09:26] <hawking> I have a laptop and when I try to install breezy in it everything goes fine in the install. I install it remove the CD and when I boot the computer from the hd hotplug gets stuck ... I have waited for hours tryed again and again but nothing happened... any ideas?
[09:26] <onkarshinde> x86i: Do you mean server installation?
[09:27] <topyli> x86i: the admin features are there without X :)
[09:27] <_basic> is there a guide anywhere for getting jdk 5.0 + swt + eclipse running under ubuntu? i got eclipse+5.0 working, but i dont have any of the swt libraries and i need them to make the gui
[09:27] <vaggelis> NOone?????????????? i am new
[09:27] <theblue> How do I set eth1 to always have a static IP address, using the command line?
[09:27] <oidia> and then? onkarshinde to administrate it? whitch port?
[09:27] <x86i> topyli: Well, I mean like the Synaptics, and all that stuff. Just didnt wanna have all those games installed, dont need any audio software.
[09:28] <topyli> vaggelis: i searched google for your modem and it seems to be nothing but trouble. you need to get a real ethernet modem
[09:28] <PJeremy> erUSUL: well, it doesn't in breezy for me. it did in hoary.
[09:28] <vaggelis> like what?
[09:28] <onkarshinde> oidia: I am not sure. It must be port 80 with url like http://localhost/webmin or similar.
[09:28] <topyli> x86i: aptitude does the same thing in console
[09:28] <_basic> anyone?
[09:29] <theblue> In the console, how do I set eth1 to have a static IP of 10.10.10.1?
[09:29] <James> Onk - I changed all occurrences of "Hoary" to "Breezy" (with the exception of the CD, which I don't have (yet)).  Am now running "sudo apt-get update"
[09:29] <_basic> anyone?
[09:29] <hawking> please help me
[09:29] <Absenth> theblue,  it's an "sudo ifconfig" string.
[09:29] <vaggelis> topyli like what?
[09:29] <hawking> I really have to get ubuntu working on my laptop
[09:30] <x86i> topyli: I know, its more to the point, I want the Gnome GUI, without the uneeded apps. Im installing it on my laptop, I have limited space. Was hoping I could choose what gets installed.
[09:30] <theblue> Absenth: Ah, thanks!
[09:30] <topyli> vaggelis: like any real ethernet-aware non-usb adsl modem
[09:30] <Absenth> theblue, unfortunatly, I'm having a dificult time pulling up the command line to get the correct syntax for you.
[09:30] <onkarshinde> _basic: Either download everything from Ubuntu or from original work. I mean there is Java implementation in GCC but it is not 5.0. Similar for SWT
[09:30] <James> hawking, I am too new to give you any advice-- but if it's consolation, my install was a bitch too.  but it works now.
[09:30] <vaggelis> topyli tell me one that can work with ubuntu
[09:30] <theblue> Absenth: By the way, were you aware of virtual consoles?
[09:30] <_basic> onkarshinde: what do you mean? i could suffice with 1.4.2 if it lets me use swt
[09:31] <Absenth> theblue,  if you're willing to read the man page.....  man ifconfig is what I was going to use to determine the exact method.
[09:31] <topyli> x86i: not really. you can use the "server" install of course, and then add what you want just like in debian. well, that's what you're doing right now?
[09:31] <theblue> Absenth: Ok, thanks.
[09:31] <Absenth> theblue, currently in the midst of a dist-upgrade.  the computer is currently only 1/2 live.
[09:31] <theblue> Absenth: Ah, I see.
[09:31] <theblue> Good luck with Breezy, Absenth.
[09:31] <Van-atwork> whats diferent withween breezy version and 5.10
[09:31] <x86i> topyli: Aye, I was hoping gnome-core would do it, but it doesnt seem to have x or anything
[09:32] <_jason> hey guys I have a question conerning hdparm.  If I add a line to enable dma for my drive I should precede each line with # signs correct?  (The wiki does not indicate this, which is why I am asking)
[09:32] <dabaR__> Van-atwork: its synonymous
[09:32] <onkarshinde> _basic: I mean. You can install gcc implementation of Java. Then there is also SWT available.
[09:32] <Van-atwork> o-O
[09:32] <Van-atwork> ah...
[09:32] <Absenth> theblue,  I've got breezy in a couple of vmware machines, and on the desktop at home.
[09:32] <_basic> onkarshinde: would you mind walking me through that in a PM
[09:32] <ahoora> is it possible for someone to zip  /usr/include/c++/3.3/backward/*.h and send them to me via email ? .... i have lost them
[09:32] <Absenth> Van-atwork, you never did tell me what kind of raid card you're trying to use in uubntu
[09:32] <topyli> vaggelis: hrmpf. well, i have a <topyli looks> telewell something. but they make good and bad modems. ask the salesperson if it works with linux or not
[09:32] <Van-atwork> my ubuntu breezy seem not want to detecte my dell scsi hard disk
[09:32] <Van-atwork> its a dell poweredge one
[09:33] <Van-atwork> sorry. i was on google trying to get to help
[09:33] <Absenth> so an LSI scsi controller, WITH or WITHOUT raid?
[09:33] <Van-atwork> is it raid 5
[09:33] <topyli> vaggelis: my modem is buried very deep because i never have to touch it or look at it :)
[09:33] <Van-atwork> controller raid
[09:33] <James> general question: now that I have updated my source list to refer only to Breezy, and have run "sudo apt-get update," is that it?  Am I done upgrading to Breezy?
[09:33] <Van-atwork> scsi controller with controller raid
[09:33] <Absenth> Van-atwork, if firefox wasn't broken I'd help you look :(
[09:34] <Van-atwork> o_O
[09:34] <topyli> x86i: gnome doesn't mean X. you can run X apps to run them on a remote X server. X is a network protocol, remember? =)
[09:34] <Van-atwork> ='(
[09:34] <Absenth> Van-atwork, I know that card DOES work on CentOS4
[09:34] <onkarshinde> James: No that just updates the list of what is to be updated. Now do 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[09:34] <Absenth> Van-atwork, Hoever I'm not sure the driver is built into the installation process in Ubuntu.....
[09:34] <vaggelis> ok bye
[09:35] <paxmaster> how would i find out which of my type drive is using dev/???
[09:35] <James> Onk - okay!
[09:35] <dabaR__> paxmaster: rephrase
[09:35] <James> yikes an extra 200 megs.. but okay!
[09:35] <Absenth> anyone know roughly how much more I have to wait during dist-upgrade if it's currently rebuiling perl?
[09:35] <bolrod> how fast is your computer
[09:36] <James> Onkarshinde, thank you very much for helping me out.  I appreciate it!
[09:36] <Absenth> 1.7 pentium m
[09:36] <bolrod> dunno :p
[09:36] <hexman4> hey.. is there a way for me to change the defaults so that when i open movies via the gui, it opens with another movie player (ex. vlc)
[09:36] <paxmaster> i just a backup type drive and I don't know which drive it use for example /dev/??
[09:36] <_jason> hexman4:  right click and go to properties
[09:36] <Mqueue> can anyone help me with mysql.connect() error please :)
[09:36] <Mqueue> Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/apache2-default/testphp.php
[09:36] <Absenth> paxmaster, internal?
[09:36] <bolrod> you have php-mysql or something?
[09:37] <bolrod> dont know the package name :x
[09:37] <Absenth> paxmaster, primary ide, or secondary ide.  first or second drive
[09:37] <jt> hey all
[09:37] <iiiears>  modprobe -l | grep saa1734              Is this the right Syntax?
 yea
[09:37] <bolrod> php4-mysql - MySQL module for php4
[09:37] <Mqueue> yea i have that
[09:37] <hexman4> _jason: k.. thanks
[09:37] <jt> iiiears , for checking for a saa1734 module
[09:37] <_jason> hexman4:  np
[09:37] <bolrod> htm
[09:37] <paxmaster> scsi external
[09:38] <iiiears> jt - yes
[09:38] <jt> yes
[09:38] <iiiears> Thank You jt :0
[09:38] <iiiears> :)
 php4-mysql is already the newest version.
[09:38] <jt> iiiears , if you do not find what you want that way... lsmod |less
[09:38] <bolrod> maybe you're using php5 ?
 yea i'm ?
[09:38] <paxmaster> http://www.usbshop.com/lacait5013ex.html this is the type drive that I am using
 what's wrong with that ?
[09:39] <x86i> topyli: Thanks for the help, I figured out what Im trying to do. I was making it too complicated in my head lol. I just installed -gnome-core and -x-system-core
[09:39] <iiiears> jt - Thanks again :) - Always more to learn here.
[09:39] <bolrod> if you are using php5.. you need to get the php5-mysql
[09:39] <bolrod> :)
[09:39] <jt> iiiears , yep np..
[09:39] <jt> :)
[09:39] <bolrod> I guess
[09:39] <Mqueue> hmm..let me check again
[09:39] <paxmaster> I nerver did a backup with a type I use to do a backup with dvd-r
[09:40] <paxmaster> Absenth: is a external drive u could the pic http://www.usbshop.com/lacait5013ex.html
[09:41] <dabaR__> paxmaster: what is your first language?
[09:41] <jt> !kernel
[09:41] <ahoora> is it possible for someone to zip  /usr/include/c++/3.3/backward/*.h and send them to me via email ? .... i have lost them
[09:42] <Absenth> paxmaster, you "might" be able to click system, administration, disks
[09:42] <bolrod> ahoora: arent they in some package?
[09:42] <paxmaster> urdu
[09:42] <jt> !kernel
[09:42] <Absenth> paxmaster, with any luck it might list your drive.....  if it does it will show you which /dev/xyz# it's located at.
[09:42] <bolrod> Mqueue: you had the php5-mysql?
[09:43] <dabaR__> jt !+kernel if you are trying to tell the channel.
[09:43] <trappist> ahoora: apt-get install --reinstall libstdc++5-3.3-dev
[09:43] <paxmaster> lol i am not using any gui only command line
[09:43] <jt> dabaR__ , nope...i had flood protection on
[09:43] <Absenth> paxmaster, yeah, I'm not real sure with usb devices at the command line, sorry :(
[09:43] <compDo> Are there any tools to play music files in the ape format?
[09:44] <james-t> !+kernel
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.6.14
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest snapshot for the stable Linux kernel tree is: 2.6.14-git7
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest 2.4 version of the Linux kernel is: 2.4.31
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest prepatch for the 2.4 Linux kernel tree is: 2.4.32-rc2
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest 2.2 version of the Linux kernel is: 2.2.26
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest prepatch for the 2.2 Linux kernel tree is: 2.2.27-rc2
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest 2.0 version of the Linux kernel is: 2.0.40
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest -ac patch to the stable Linux kernels is: 2.6.11-ac7
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest -mm patch to the stable Linux kernels is: 2.6.14-rc5-mm1
[09:44] <paxmaster> thx anyway
[09:44] <trappist> that sucks.
[09:44] <james-t> anyone using mortons patch?
[09:44] <dabaR__> omg, ubotu !!
[09:44] <hawking> go ubotu!
[09:45] <james-t> Silencer ,hi
[09:45] <Silencer> james
[09:45] <Silencer> james-t,
[09:45] <ahoora> trappist : couldn't find package libstdc++5-3.3-de
[09:45] <Silencer> who ever u are I don't know u :)
[09:46] <Silencer> anyway
[09:46] <Silencer> hi
[09:46] <james-t> Silencer , :-D i thought you were a bot
[09:46] <trappist> ahoora: did you miss the v?
[09:46] <tiglionabbit> My lappy freezes when I try to wake it up from hibernation: "resume= should be used to set suspend device"
[09:46] <Silencer> Why everyone
[09:46] <bolrod> libstdc++5-3.3-dev - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (development files)
[09:46] <Silencer> think I'm bot ?????
[09:46] <Silencer> here
[09:46] <bolrod> ?
[09:47] <james-t> i think it was because last night i was getting responses from a bot with yoru nick!
[09:47] <Silencer> u mean !define shit
[09:47] <trappist> ahoora: sudo apt-get install libstdc++-dev and choose the appropriate 3.3 version from the list.
[09:47] <Silencer> !define example
[09:47] <Silencer> !define example
[09:47] <ubotu> Silencer: Are you smoking crack?
[09:47] <Silencer> -example-
[09:47] <Silencer> n 1: an item of information that is representative of a type; "this patient provides a typical example of the syndrome"; "there is an example on page 10"  2: a representative form or pattern; "I profited from his example"  3: something to be imitated; "an exemplar of success"; "a model of clarity"; "he is the very model of a modern major general"  4: punishment intended as a warning to others; "they decided to make an example of him"  5
[09:47] <james-t> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[09:47] <Silencer> no I didn't smoke :)
[09:47] <Silencer> crack
[09:47] <_jason> !botabuse
[09:47] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[09:48] <bolrod> :)
[09:48] <Silencer> I'm not
[09:48] <Silencer> bot
[09:48] <Silencer> ppl
[09:48] <Silencer> :)
[09:48] <ahoora> trappist you are the best :D
[09:48] <Silencer> damn :)
[09:48] <klerk> is it possible to have the ubuntu iso extracted onto a different fat32 partition and install it from there?
[09:48] <bolrod> why did you port to dict then ?
[09:48] <Silencer> I'm real man
[09:48] <Silencer> well to define something if I don't understand
[09:48] <Absenth> Silencer, are you saying bots aren't real?
[09:49] <Silencer> Absenth, well they are machines
[09:49] <Absenth> heh
[09:49] <Silencer> :)
[09:49] <Silencer> I'm man a real man :)
[09:49] <bolrod> klerk: I think you can load iso's in the installer
[09:49] <Absenth> sweet, dist-upgrade doen.
[09:49] <Absenth> done.
[09:49] <bolrod> so you don't 'have' to extract
[09:49] <Absenth> now for a kernel patch, and I can reboot.
[09:49] <bolrod> anyway.. I don't know this for sure.. I think I saw it in the install
[09:50] <topyli> Silencer: for a "real man" you make little sense. i'd rather do M-x doctor-mode
[09:50] <bolrod> ?
[09:50] <klerk> bolrod, oh ok... so how do i get to the installer? all i have is the downloaded ISO ansd i dont have a cd burner
[09:50] <tiglionabbit> guys, can someone tell me how to make my laptop suspend/resume properly?
[09:50] <x86i> and, bots have feelings, your insensitive clod@
[09:50] <Silencer> omg :)
[09:50] <bolrod> klerk: owh
[09:50] <Silencer> I'm not real pearson
[09:50] <Theblue> Hi again.
[09:50] <Juhaz> dabaR__, I've yet to see a program that doesn't require a machine to run
[09:50] <Silencer> I'm machine :(
[09:50] <bolrod> klerk: some boot over network?
[09:50] <Absenth> to install the 686 kernel, I'd choose the "linux-686" package from synaptic?
[09:50] <bolrod> floppy?...  does ubuntu have that?
[09:51] <james-t> Absenth , build it yourself!
[09:51] <x86i> lol
[09:51] <bolrod> essential installer things installed on floppy.. .like fat32 .. and installer.. then load the iso ?
[09:51] <Absenth> James-t, that takes more time then I have between now and when I have to leave for the CoLo
[09:51] <onkarshinde> !eclipse
[09:51] <ubotu> to install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[09:52] <james-t> Absenth , why...dl the stuff and just make all && make install && make modules_install
[09:52] <klerk> bolrod, yeah ive been looking for a ubuntu image file to boot from floppy but cant find anything
[09:52] <bolrod> I know debian has
[09:52] <onkarshinde> !swt
[09:52] <ubotu> onkarshinde: What?
[09:52] <Absenth> James-t, compile times.
[09:52] <topyli> bolrod: i don't think ubuntu can be installed without a CD. install the base of debian woody and upgrade :)
[09:52] <james-t> Absenth , ok
[09:52] <bolrod> topyli: the base isn't on the floppy I think
[09:52] <bolrod> only the installer
[09:52] <Absenth> so back to my origional question, is that the correct package?
[09:52] <mustard5> Absenth, it's much easier via synaptic :)
[09:52] <bolrod> the rest will be downloaded
[09:52] <bolrod> I guess
[09:52] <mustard5> Absenth, yes
[09:53] <topyli> bolrod: that's right. but at least they _have_ floppies
[09:53] <bolrod> (or read from harddisk)
[09:53] <Absenth> mustard5, I agree.
[09:53] <Absenth> mustard5, I'll compile a kernel for the desktop at home.  on the laptop I honestly don't care that much :)
[09:53] <bolrod> maybe you can configure the bootloader to run the installer from harddisk    ?
[09:53] <Theblue> I have an oddball 802.11g card (Hawking Technologies), and I'm trying to install Hoary with it, but it refuses to connect to the DHCP server on my router.
[09:55] <KjetilK> I have a Debian sarge system and a kubuntu CD, and I want to build a list of packages that are in my /var/log/popularity-contest but not on the CD, that would fit on my 1GB memory stick...
[09:55] <KjetilK> I asked a bit about this earlier today too, but have since then found that apt-zip doesn't really do what's needed
[09:55] <KjetilK> any further ideas...?
[09:57] <rr> tying to get via unichrome to work in breezy
[09:58] <fatehaze> What package do I need for gmake?
[09:58] <CarlFK> i want to hook a box to DSL that uses PPPoE user/pass - where do I put the user/pw?
[09:58] <electron_> hi
[09:58] <electron_> How can I make my computer cache ALL urls visited?
[09:59] <trappist> KjetilK: what exactly should end up on your stick?  the packages themselves?
[09:59] <KjetilK> trappist: yup
[09:59] <erUSUL_> fatehaze, gmake? in linux system gmake is make
[09:59] <LjL> electron_: what do you mean? web cache, or something else?
[09:59] <electron_> webcache
[10:00] <KjetilK> trappist: so I could bring them home and not stress my not-very-fast connection more than necessary
[10:00] <trappist> KjetilK: you should just write a little script.  I don't have a /var/log/popularity-contest, so I don't know the format of the file to give you a starting point.
[10:00] <LjL> electron_: hmm i'm not sure what you're thinking about, 'cause as far as i know, any web browser keeps a cache of visited pages
[10:00] <fatehaze> Ah, ok
[10:00] <electron_> Im using Ubuntu box as a server, so when I visit a url on a client pc, I want it to be cached on the server so it loads faster
[10:00] <LjL> electron_: oh, i see
[10:00] <KjetilK> trappist: yup, the format is straightforward
[10:00] <LjL> electron_: well, you should install a caching proxy on the server then
[10:00] <trappist> electron_: set up a squid proxy on your gateway machine
[10:00] <jt> wooohooo making the new kernel
[10:00] <electron_> like?
[10:00] <electron_> okay
[10:01] <KjetilK> trappist: the problem is really resolving dependencies
[10:01] <erUSUL_> electron_, use a proxy squid is the default here
[10:01] <redflames> Hi, just installed Breezy Badger and I seem to have a problem with GRUB... I only get "error 17". Any ideas anyone?
[10:01] <LjL> electron_: i've had limited success using middleman, a relatively easy-to-use proxy that also *pre*caches, i.e. starts downloading pages that are linked from a visited page *before* the user clicks on them
[10:01] <LjL> electron_: i'm not sure if i've explained it decently
[10:01] <jt> redflames , well depends
[10:01] <jt> redflames , what is it saying
[10:01] <jt> other than error 17
[10:01] <LjL> electron_: squid is also an option, of course, but i do think it's quite hard configuring
[10:02] <electron_> LjL, I'm a BSD user so it should be fairly easy ;)
[10:02] <trappist> KjetilK: you could use apt-get -d, which would download the files, once you have the list assembled.  they'd go to /var/cache/apt/archives by default, which you could clean out first
[10:02] <KjetilK> trappist: ah, that sounds like a start, yes
[10:02] <james-t> electron_ , BSD isn't as bad as it used to be :/
[10:03] <redflames> Nothing jt
[10:03] <electron_> bad? lol
[10:03] <LjL> electron_: OK. anyway, i'd suggest you do look at the possibility of pre-caching (wether by using middleman, squid or something else that can do it)... if you need pages and stuff loading quicktly, pre-caching is a neat idea
[10:03] <james-t> with configuring
[10:03] <electron_> Have you ever used OpenVMS?
[10:03] <james-t> i love freebsd
[10:03] <electron_> I run OpenVMS on my DEC Alpha ^_^
[10:03] <KjetilK> is there a list of the packages on the kubuntu CD somewhere?
[10:04] <thirso> KjetilK: you want to install kde?
[10:04] <KjetilK> thirso: yup
[10:04] <LjL> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:04] <redflames> I start the computer, getting past the bios etc. then "Grub loading, pleasse wait... ERROR 17" freeze...
[10:04] <thirso> yeah :p
[10:04] <LjL> should give you all the packages that are installed by default from the cd
[10:04] <panzar> what's the difference between apt-get kde and using kubuntu?
[10:04] <KjetilK> LjL: yup, easy enough
[10:04] <RezDawg> Was wondering if someone knows if I can get my bookmarks in windows and have them for firefox for linux?
[10:05] <bash> Hello
[10:05] <panzar> RezDawg: firefox in windows too?
[10:05] <LjL> panzar: well, kubuntu has a pre-defined choice of packages (not that you can't change that choice later, it's just a choice that's made for you for convenience)
[10:05] <RezDawg> panzar: yes
[10:05] <LjL> panzar: but you can certainly build your own kde environment by installing things one by one, as you like
[10:05] <KjetilK> LjL: the issue isn't KDE and stuff, it is more that I use the box as a development platform
[10:05] <panzar> LjL: ok.
[10:05] <KjetilK> so, it is more apache1, libapache-mod-*
[10:06] <bash> I am new to Ubuntu Can I run Apllications designed for Windows in this operating system?
[10:06] <electron_> wtf is kubuntu
[10:06] <welp> ubuntu with KDE
[10:06] <LjL> bash: yes, by installing Wine. not all apps will work, though
[10:06] <LjL> bash: aptitude install wine
[10:06] <bash> Where can I find Wine?
[10:06] <RezDawg> bash: kind of, there's an emulation program called wine
[10:06] <panzar> i'm having some problems with my current madwifi-driver (atheros), i get disconnected from the wlan after a while. which is the best way to install another madwifi version in ubuntu?
[10:07] <LjL> bash: also, aptitude install xwine for a graphical configuration interface
[10:07] <erUSUL_> electron_, ubuntu with kde instead of gnome
[10:07] <electron_> erUSUL_, GAY!.
[10:07] <electron_> <3 Blackbox!
[10:07] <RezDawg> Was wondering if someone knows if I can get my bookmarks from firefox in windows and have them for firefox for linux?
[10:07] <netdur> how do I send something to my phone via bluetooth... I installed gnome-bluetooth but I can receive only
[10:07] <bash> Where do I find it?
[10:08] <LjL> KjetilK: do you currently *have* the kubuntu cd?
[10:08] <Vorpulus> Hello. I wiped windows from my computer yesterday and installed ubuntu. I'm finding it really difficult to install everything. I find command lines to put in the console such as: sudo apt-get install java-package java-common , but they hardly ever work
[10:08] <LjL> bash: i've told you, "aptitude install wine"
[10:08] <Taa5i> Can someone recommend a good text-editor to use?  Ideally with mdi [eg tabbed] , and not using KDE.
[10:08] <erUSUL_> RezDawg, yes export it in win and import them in linux
[10:08] <Vorpulus> Can anyone help?
[10:08] <farruinn> Taa5i: vim is the only text editor :P
[10:08] <LjL> bash: go to a terminal and type that
[10:09] <trappist> Taa5i: gvim if you're looking for a gui editor
[10:09] <Vorpulus> I have honestly been trying hard to sort it out
[10:09] <KjetilK> LjL: yep
[10:09] <erUSUL_> Vorpulus, use synaptic
[10:09] <RezDawg> erUSUL_, i exported from win but i cant seem to find import here in linux
[10:09] <CarlFK> Vorpulus: one problem at a time.  what do you want to install?
[10:09] <Vorpulus> I couldn't find java-package in synaptic
[10:09] <smarco> Taa5i, scite, gui and can run any code
[10:09] <Vorpulus> well I'm trying to install java rigth now
[10:09] <Vorpulus> right*
[10:09] <erUSUL_> RezDawg, is the same as in win
[10:09] <Taa5i> smarco: Thank you, I'll take a look at that.  vi always scared me, I couldn't even figure out how to exit it.
[10:10] <erUSUL_> !tell Vorpulus about repos
[10:10] <trappist> RezDawg: bookmarks -> manage bookmarks
[10:10] <LjL> KjetilK: well... "apt-cache pkgnames" will show the names of all available packages. if you go to /etc/apt/source.list, then comment out everything but the Kubuntu CD, then do "apt-get update", then "apt-cache pkgnames", you should get a terse list of all packages in the Kubuntu CD
[10:11] <RezDawg> trappist, ty, in windows its file>export and i was looking there
[10:11] <KjetilK> LjL: Hmmm, right. But the problem here is that all the operations, up to doing the install itself, will happen on Debian Sarge systems...
[10:11] <nalioth> hawking: you hit it right on the head
[10:11] <trappist> RezDawg: I know what you mean :)
[10:11] <hawking> why does hotplug gets stuck when ubuntu is installed on a laptop?
[10:11] <KjetilK> hmmm
[10:11] <hawking> nalioth: go have fun with someone else jerk
[10:12] <Mqueue> what is the difference between php5 woody packages & ubuntu packages ?
[10:12] <LjL> KjetilK: i see... but, still, since APT is APT on both Debian and Ubuntu, you should be able to put the Kubuntu CD in sources.list even on a Debian machine, and do what i described there... shouldn't you?
[10:12] <KjetilK> yup
[10:12] <KjetilK> probably
[10:12] <nalioth> hawking: excuse me? you made a point of nobody answering you, i confirmed it.
[10:12] <nalioth> hawking: please be polite
[10:12] <LjL> KjetilK: the line is "deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted", in case you don't have it handy
[10:12] <hawking> nalioth : sorry I am damn angry I have been trying whole day
[10:13] <James> hawking - it works for me.
[10:13] <hawking> nalioth : misunderstood
[10:13] <jorgg> what program can i use to connect to DC-hubs?
[10:13] <KjetilK> LjL: thanks a lot, I was looking for exactly that! :-)
[10:13] <hawking> James: what's ur laptop?
[10:13] <James> Toshiba Satellite of some kind.
[10:13] <LjL> KjetilK: np
[10:13] <James> I know nothing about Ubuntu, but I know that at least on some systems it works.
[10:13] <Vorpulus> erUSUL, what do I do with that webpage?
[10:14] <hawking> hmm well people say it is a nice distro for laptops but it doesn't work on most laptops
[10:14] <James> I'd recommend posting to one of the Ubuntu forums -- 5.10 maybe-- as hardware support or installation folders.
[10:14] <Vorpulus> Carl are you there?
[10:14] <James> in order to install mine, I had to put it in the freezer next to the ice cream so it wouldn't overheat
[10:14] <James> but after that, it worked okay.
[10:14] <Vorpulus> I've tried all sorts of stuff on synaptic
[10:14] <Vorpulus> in fact I installed everything on it
[10:14] <panzar> i'm having some problems with my current madwifi-driver (atheros), i get disconnected from the wlan after a while. which is the best way to install another madwifi version in ubuntu?
[10:15] <Vorpulus> and then I selected all the repositries.... then I removed some....
[10:15] <Vorpulus> in fact it's probably a complete mess right now
[10:15] <erUSUL_> Vorpulus, you need to add all reositories to get acces through synapic to a lot of software
[10:15] <hawking> is there a forum for ubuntu where I can ask questions and hope to get an answer which I can't get here?
[10:15] <Vorpulus> oh ok erUSUL, I understand
[10:15] <dabaR__> Vorpulus: are you faced with not being able to do something now that you would like to?
[10:15] <_jason> hawking:  http://www.linuxprinting.org
[10:15] <_jason> err sorry
[10:15] <_jason> didnt copy
[10:15] <Vorpulus> and that webpage you gave had a list of them?
[10:15] <_jason> hawking:  http://ubuntuforums.org/
[10:16] <hawking> _jason : thanks
[10:16] <nalioth> hawking: help.ubuntu.com
[10:16] <LjL> KjetilK: but, wait a moment, you do realize that nistalling Ubuntu over Debian could break things, right? i'm not sure if i understood you correctly, but if that's what you're intending to do, then well, you may have a couple of problems...
[10:16] <sunshine82> alt delete how do i force quit in ubuntu
[10:16] <LjL> sunshine82: quit from what?
[10:16] <runedude> i got a few comments
[10:16] <runedude> first of all
[10:16] <KjetilK> LjL: np, I have a new disk I just bought, the old disk will be untouched
[10:16] <Taa5i> Is it difficult to add video card support to a kernel in ubuntu?  It is using the vesa driver right now on a 2m card, but I want to install a riva tnt2 for it to use instead so I can get decent resolution.
[10:16] <runedude> ubuntu breezy == kick ass
[10:16] <runedude> :)
[10:16] <LjL> KjetilK: ok
[10:17] <dabaR__> sunshine82: force quit what?
[10:17] <runedude> second: amd64 works REALLY nice
[10:17] <runedude> ubuntus 64bit support works perfectly for me
[10:17] <Vorpulus> erUSUL, I also get this message when I start up synaptic:
[10:17] <Vorpulus> in fact I get loads of them
[10:17] <BamaWOLF> are there issues with firewire drives or something, because it refuses to mount my fw HD
[10:17] <runedude> and it was my first time using a 64bit operating system
[10:17] <Vorpulus> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists
[10:17] <ascii1> hi
[10:17] <ascii1> dude
[10:17] <dabaR__> Vorpulus: dont paste here, paste at paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:17] <ascii1> how is life
[10:17] <sunshine82> i would like to force an application to when i was on windows i press ctrl alt and delete but how do i force quit in ubuntu
[10:18] <ascii1> nice nice
[10:18] <ascii1> I am aciii
[10:18] <runedude> sunshine82: i guess im terminal do ps aux | grep program then kill pid
[10:18] <ascii1> rock and roll babys
[10:18] <erUSUL_> Taa5i, use the nv driver instead of vesa. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:18] <nalioth> sunshine82: alt-f2, type xkill and the next thing your mouse touches will go away
[10:18] <ascii1> dude man
[10:18] <Vorpulus> OK, but do you know how to get rid of that problem dabaR?
[10:18] <jorgg> what program can i use to connect to DC-hubs?
[10:18] <ascii1> what u talking about
[10:18] <CarlFK> Linux box hooked directly to SBC dsl - where do I put the PPPoE user/pw ?
[10:18] <LjL> sunshine: well, i usually do it from the console (using ps aux and kill), but in KDE at least, clicking on the X button on a window will kill the application if it doesn't quit by itself after a certain time
[10:18] <dabaR__> nalioth: please get ridf of him
[10:18] <ascii1> use FreeBSD
[10:18] <erUSUL_> sunshine82, xkill
[10:18] <LjL> sunshine: also, i don't remember whether in KDE or Gnome, there is an applet you can put on your panels that will let you kill apps
[10:18] <ascii1> it overtakes all u linux mushies
[10:19] <nalioth> ascii1: this is an ubuntu help channel, if you'd like to discuss music, character encoding and other stuff, use #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:19] <ascii1> FreeBSD
[10:19] <ascii1> is GOD!
[10:19] <runedude> for servers, yeh.
[10:19] <linkrjh> Anybody know how to install a file from Mac source?
[10:19] <linkrjh> Or whatever
[10:19] <dabaR__> nalioth: lol@discussing character encoding.
[10:20] <nalioth> linkrjh: explain further, please
[10:20] <LjL> sunshine82: actually... i'm in KDE, but i *think* in Gnome you can just right-click on a window or something similar, and there will be a "kill" menu option somewhere
[10:20] <linkrjh> I want to run a mac program, and someone changed the filetype so I could see it's content, but it doesn't work like regular from source Linux files
[10:20] <Taa5i> erUSUL_: Thank you, I'll try that.  [Do I do this after installing the new card?] 
[10:20] <nalioth> linkrjh: is it a mac binary?
[10:20] <erUSUL_> Taa5i, which is the new card?
[10:20] <LjL> sunshine82: also, in KDE i can do Ctrl+Esc, and a task list will appear, and i can kill tasks from there
[10:20] <linkrjh> How do I check, Nalioth?
[10:20] <Taa5i> erUSUL_: The new card is a Riva TNT2, it currently has an Cirrus Logic 5480 which has a max of 800x600
[10:21] <nalioth> linkrjh: in  a terminal, type "file mac_file_name.file"
[10:21] <foxiness> what you use to test other distro on top of ubuntu ?
[10:21] <_jason> nalioth:  why is it that I define "forums" for ubotu but he returns something else? (on the ubotu website I verified it was set)
[10:21] <runedude> hey guys
[10:21] <runedude> got a q
[10:21] <LjL> foxiness: you could use QEmu, if i've understood what you mean
[10:21] <LjL> foxiness: that's a PC emulator
[10:21] <runedude> Why is a DVD disk better to install from than a regular CD one?
[10:21] <foxiness> LjL, yah i mean like that
[10:21] <nalioth> _jason: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[10:22] <dabaR__> runedude: cause someone has a slower internet connection, and can get a dvd from a friend.
[10:22] <runedude> hm
[10:22] <BamaWOLF> it mounts my drive just fine if i connect it with usb, but with fw, it won't even see it
[10:22] <runedude> i see
[10:22] <runedude> dabaR__: would the DVD include more packages?
[10:22] <odie5533> Why does Ubuntu use evolution and not thunderbird?
[10:22] <LjL> foxiness: you could also use VMWare, which is faster, but not free... also, there is an "accelerator module" for QEmu (look on the QEmu site) that's free, but not open-source
[10:22] <foxiness> LjL, i use qemu before but its solw and i know vmware but its so expensve and i think if i can i will try xen
[10:22] <Vorpulus> erUSUL, do I just copy those lines one by one and paste them into the APT line 'box'?
[10:23] <sunshine82> nalioth xkill isnt workin im tryin to get ride of mplayer i change the end name of a file mpg to avi and try to play it now i have 5 mplayer on my screen
[10:23] <dabaR__> runedude: would you use a dvd if was not larger than a cd?
[10:23] <erUSUL_> Taa5i, then yes run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after installing the card
[10:23] <mustard5> runedude, if you are tallking about the ubuntu DVD, its just a liveCD and install CD combined
[10:23] <runedude> dabaR__: dont know
[10:23] <runedude> ah
[10:23] <runedude> okay then
[10:23] <runedude> nvm :) ill use a regular CD
[10:23] <nalioth> sunshine82: in a terminal, type "killall mplayer"
[10:23] <LjL> foxiness: you should probably try the QEmu accelerator. VMWare is faster basically because it doesn't emulate the CPU, while QEmu normally does... but with the acceleator module, it doesn't anymore
[10:23] <nalioth> Vorpulus: what are you doing?
[10:23] <Juhaz> mustard5, runedude, no it's not, the dvd DOES have more packages than the install cd, in addition to having the live included
[10:23] <sunshine82> nalioth it givin me an error no process for mplayer
[10:23] <mustard5> Juhaz, its news to me....ok :)
[10:23] <Vorpulus> nalioth, well I was initially trying to install java for Mozilla
[10:23] <erUSUL_> Vorpulus, edit /etc/apt/sources.list with a text editor and add the lines you do not have
[10:24] <nalioth> sunshine82: in a terminal, "ps aux|grep mplayer", find the PIDs and use them to kill it
[10:24] <erUSUL_> Vorpulus, you can swap your sources.list with the one in the wiki (make a buckup of yours)
[10:24] <BamaWOLF> ?
[10:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Vorpulus about javadeb
[10:25] <angelwratton> any nice boys out there plz talk  to me i'm so bored
[10:25] <crimsun> angelwratton: way offtopic.
[10:25] <bolrod> ?
[10:25] <bolrod> why nice boys?
[10:26] <nalioth> angelwratton: look for love in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:26] <Vorpulus> erUSUL, I'm a real newbie... Is that something I find it console?
[10:26] <linkrjh> linkrjh@ubuntu:~/Yasse$ ls
[10:26] <linkrjh> Avalon 3  gpl.txt             __MACOSX    Scripts  yasse-3.2.1.zip
[10:26] <linkrjh> Avalon 4  important news.txt  readme.txt  src
[10:26] <linkrjh> linkrjh@ubuntu:~/Yasse$
[10:26] <angelwratton> you know what bit me
[10:26] <linkrjh> =(
[10:26] <nalioth> Vorpulus: read what ubotu priv messaged you about java
[10:26] <hawking> can someone help me for a second with a text ? I found some assistance about my laptop but didn't understand a sentence
[10:26] <slew> ok i've been struggling with the java plugin for firefox for a while now, and even following the directoins on the java webpage it doesnt work. is there a diffrent way to install this plugin?
[10:26] <Vorpulus> ok nalioth
[10:26] <nalioth> angelwratton: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:26] <erUSUL_> Vorpulus, yes
[10:26] <bolrod> wow.. there is an ubuntu-offtopic too
[10:26] <crimsun> slew: what isn't working?
[10:27] <dabaR__> linkrjh: please use pastebin
[10:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell slew about javadeb
[10:27] <erUSUL_> hawking, ask
[10:27] <slew> the java plugin for firefox
[10:27] <hawking> quoting: "one of them was probably kernel related, snd-hda-intel sound module refused to work with my sound controller, and I've googled that this was fixed in 2.6.13-rc3. So I just grabbed vanilla 2.6.13.3 from kernel.org, built it,"
[10:27] <crimsun> slew: have you read the faq that nalioth just pointed you to?
[10:27] <hawking> erusul_: what is meant with vanilla 2.6.13.3?
[10:27] <crimsun> hawking: it's the third patchlevel for 2.6.13
[10:27] <Toran> How would I install a gtk theme in kubuntu?
[10:28] <erUSUL_> hawking, vanilla is the kernel from kernel.org
[10:28] <nalioth> slew: check your messages
[10:28] <erUSUL_> hawking, whithout ubuntu patches
[10:28] <hawking> crimsun : hmm so can you tell me what exactly should I download?
[10:28] <slew> nalioth, im waiting for the page to load..
[10:28] <hawking> I don't want to do anythin wrong
[10:28] <|meheren|> hi i was wondering what you would put instead of spaces in the terminal when the file name has spaces
[10:29] <bolrod> \
[10:29] <bolrod> before the space
[10:29] <hawking> erUSUL_: so do i have to get ubuntu patches too?
[10:29] <|meheren|> ok thx
[10:29] <fanopnaic> |meheren|: like backslash-space
[10:29] <bolrod> yes.. escape character
[10:29] <|meheren|> ok thx fanopnaic
[10:29] <erUSUL_> hawking, no need i use a vanilla kernel myself 2.6.14
[10:29] <bolrod> \'  should be a '
[10:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell |meheren| about cli
[10:29] <bolrod> and \(
[10:29] <angelwratton> i'm so bored
[10:29] <bolrod> and stuff
[10:29] <bolrod> angelwratton: I noticed
[10:29] <bolrod> angelwratton: me too
[10:29] <crimsun> hawking: you're better off just building alsa-driver 1.0.10rc2
[10:29] <angelwratton> lol
[10:29] <bolrod> need some help with something ?... or why are you here
[10:30] <bolrod> :)
[10:30] <slew> nalioth, this page doesnt seem to load
[10:30] <nalioth> angelwratton: bolrod: y'all go to #ubuntu-offtopic and be bored together, please
[10:30] <bolrod> I am in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:30] <mustard5> |meheren|, alternatively you could use tab key autocompletion feature of your terminal
[10:30] <foxiness> LjL, i have the qemu install it on hoary before i get upgarde on breezy i want to uninstall it ,its not deb its by make make install
[10:30] <nalioth> slew: it appears his site is down atm
[10:30] <slew> sad
[10:30] <slew> =[
[10:30] <hawking> crimsun : well this is a specific problem for my laptop and this text is the only one I have found on the net which has found a solution to that
[10:30] <nalioth> slew: that deb will fix you up no muss no fuss
[10:31] <slew> sweet
[10:31] <hawking> I'll try that first and if not I'll get alsa 1.10
[10:31] <foxiness> LjL, and is there easy way to install accelerator on breezy ?
[10:31] <lsuactiafner> i have the ubuntu iso but not installed on a cd.. can i make apt-cdrom see it or make apt recognise the iso on a loop device?
[10:31] <crimsun> hawking: it's much easier to compile ALSA 1.0.10rc2
[10:31] <_lamb> exit
[10:31] <hawking> crimsun : but is it definite that it will solve the prob?
[10:31] <_lamb> PART #ubuntu
[10:31] <crimsun> hawking: what is the problem?
[10:31] <crimsun> hawking: you have failed to state it clearly
[10:31] <hav0k> does anyone know how to set up their ipod?
[10:31] <bolrod> wtf..
[10:32] <bolrod> yes
[10:32] <lsuactiafner> foxiness : try prozilla.. though most websites block simultaneous connections these days
[10:32] <foxiness> lsuactiafner, i think yes i see my friedn do this with debian
[10:32] <crimsun> there about sixteen major hda-intel issues
[10:32] <sunshine82> nalioth ok what the pid i di that aux thing i can see it but how do i kill it
[10:32] <bolrod> hav0k: format it in windows... would be easiest I guess
[10:32] <slew> nalioth, in the mean time should i delete the java stuff ive tried to install?
[10:32] <angelwratton> how do i get there it is my frist timeon this chat?
[10:32] <hawking> crimsun: I install ubuntu without any problems but when I boot it it gets stuck : starting hotplug line on start-up
[10:32] <nalioth> sunshine82: kill -9 PID
[10:32] <hav0k> bolrod, i dont have windows... and how would i format it?
[10:32] <bolrod> angelwratton: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:33] <angelwratton> how?
[10:33] <nalioth> slew: if you dont have a use for multiple types of java, yes, otw
[10:33] <bolrod> hav0k: I haven't formatted it in linux
[10:33] <foxiness> lsuactiafner, accelerator on qemu
[10:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell slew about multijava
[10:33] <sunshine82> nalioth what is -9
[10:33] <bolrod> hav0k: you could try the qtparted..  easier then parted
[10:33] <hav0k> bolrod, so you got yours to work?  cause my roomate has windows...
[10:33] <CaNsA> what would stop my desktop from loading after logging in?
[10:33] <crimsun> hawking: yes, but which of two issues is that?
[10:33] <bolrod> oh
[10:33] <bolrod> yeah.. I just installed it with windows
[10:33] <slew> nalioth, just wanna be able to play pool now and then with my girl on yahoo games.
[10:33] <sunshine82> nalioth 26790  0.0  5.2  43392 20456 ?
[10:33] <bolrod> also dont know how to upgrade firmware in linux
[10:33] <foxiness> hav0k, i like gparted
[10:33] <sunshine82> nalioth i mean is that need to be replace for somethin else
[10:34] <crimsun> hawking: did the kernel OOPS, or is it just spinning trying to enumerate the mixer elements?
[10:34] <mustard5> angelwratton, you picked the wrong channel to join for idle chit chat..you are in a technical support channel ;)
[10:34] <hav0k> foxiness, so i should do that with my ipod?  if i do format it, doesnt that take off all the ipod stuff, like firmware?
[10:34] <CaNsA> what would stop my desktop from loading after logging in?
[10:34] <KjetilK> BTW, does anybody know by any chance if I can get to aptitude's list of "obsolete packages" easily?
[10:34] <CaNsA> what would stop my desktop from loading after logging in?
[10:34] <nalioth> angelwratton: type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:34] <bolrod> hav0k: if you format the wrong partition.. yes
[10:34] <crimsun> hawking: in either case, moving to ALSA 1.0.10rc2 resolves it
[10:34] <nalioth> CaNsA: please watch your enter key
[10:34] <hawking> crimsun: hmm ok I'll try that
[10:34] <CaNsA> k
[10:34] <bolrod> hav0k: but I suggest running it with windows before using it with linux
[10:34] <hav0k> bolrod, oh, so there should be two partitions on it... one for the firmware and one with the main music stuff
[10:34] <LjL> foxiness: sorry for not replying, i was smoking a cig... anyway, i don't really know about installing the acceleartor on breezy, didn't try. maybe it's in restriced
[10:35] <bolrod> hav0k: indeed
[10:35] <LjL> foxiness: no it doesn't seem to be there, i suppose you should get the stuff from the home page :-\
[10:35] <hav0k> bolrod, yeah, i did have it running and working with my windows, but i can't get it to work on here, with say, gtkpod
[10:35] <Vorpulus> erUSUL, I've found the file and made a backup on my desktop. Can I literally just replace the content of the file with lines 3 to 21 on that website?
[10:35] <nalioth> LjL: one needs to get it from the qemu homepage
[10:35] <bolrod> hav0k: can you get it mounted?
[10:35] <foxiness> LjL, hah
[10:35] <hav0k> the whole linux deal is having a hard time mounting it
[10:35] <hawking> crimsun : where can i get alsa?
[10:35] <bolrod> oh
[10:35] <hav0k> exactly, i try to mount it but i town
[10:35] <bolrod> does it connect correctly
[10:35] <Vorpulus> nalioth, that link doesn't seem to work
[10:35] <hawking> crimsun: does the repos have alsa 1.10?
[10:36] <z0unds> hi do i need to add some special source to download "nero linux" - synaptic says it dosnt have an avaiable version but exist in the database ..
[10:36] <hav0k> bolrod, as in, like i plugged it in?
[10:36] <LjL> foxiness: also, i know there is kqemu for configuring qemu graphically under kde (dunno if there's a gnome equivalent), but that's not packaged in ubuntu either
[10:36] <bolrod> hav0k: connect it..  and look in    /var/log/syslog
[10:36] <bolrod> or something
[10:36] <lsuactiafner> nalioth : last night i was asked what the ubuntu tool to configure the netowkr? the user had to ifconfig after bootup to get the eth0 to work
[10:36] <bolrod> no
[10:36] <nalioth> Vorpulus: yes, i've discoverd that. the site appears to be down
[10:36] <bolrod>  /var/log/messages
[10:36] <hav0k> bolrod, okay
[10:36] <crimsun> hawking: no, they don't. You have to download it manually.
[10:36] <marie_> hello
[10:36] <hawking> crimsun: from?
[10:36] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: network-admin
[10:36] <crimsun> hawking: you'll need to the build-essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r), and gcc-3.4 packages installed
[10:36] <marie_> french
[10:36] <lsuactiafner> thanks
[10:36] <crimsun> hawking: alsa-project.org
[10:37] <bolrod> hav0k: anyway.. one of those..  tail -f should be easiest
[10:37] <marie_> juuytg
[10:37] <hav0k> bolrod, huh?
[10:37] <bolrod> angelwratton: hard time having understanding yor irc?
[10:37] <bolrod>   tail -f /var/log/messages
[10:37] <hav0k> okay
[10:37] <bolrod> probably
[10:37] <Vorpulus> nalioth, do you know if I can just replace the stuff in sources.list with the text on the webpage erUSUL gave me?
[10:37] <hawking> crimsun : th
[10:37] <hawking> x
[10:37] <bolrod> if nothing appears.. it was the syslog ;p
[10:37] <foxiness> LjL, i will try to install it from source "i dont like this way :(" but some time i can
[10:37] <angelwratton> WHAT?
[10:37] <Vorpulus> (am I allowed to post the link in here?)
[10:37] <hav0k> well, in both it say ssd_mod: loaded sucessfully (for disk)
[10:38] <bolrod> angelwratton: nothing...
[10:38] <mustard5> Vorplus, you talking about source-o-matic generated sources.list?
[10:38] <angelwratton> oh ok
[10:38] <LjL> foxiness: well, you can't really install everything from source, as there *is* no source for the accelerator module anyway ;)
[10:38] <hawking> crimsun : and is there a better solution than building the ipw2200 wireless kernel module or is it the only way?
[10:38] <bolrod> angelwratton: write thiss     /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:38] <|meheren|> can you get macromidia flash player for ubuntu?
[10:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Vorpulus about sources
[10:38] <|meheren|> i checked wiki but can not find it
[10:38] <foxiness> LjL, haha
[10:38] <bolrod> yes
[10:38] <bolrod> just open some site with flash
[10:38] <Vorpulus> mustard5, I have no idea. It's something called pastebin or something
[10:38] <bolrod> and firefox asks to download flash
[10:38] <|meheren|> oh really?
[10:38] <Vorpulus> two somethings.... sounds bad
[10:38] <crimsun> hawking: why do you need to do that? It's already built.
[10:38] <bolrod> shockwave doesn't work though
[10:38] <|meheren|> ok
[10:38] <hav0k> yet when i go to mount it, it says its unable to mount and gives me "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,
[10:38] <hav0k>        missing codepage or other error
[10:38] <hav0k>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[10:38] <hav0k>        dmesg | tail  or so
[10:39] <nalioth> hav0k: dont paste in here, please
[10:39] <mustard5> Vorpulus, what is the URL of the pastebin you are viewing?
[10:39] <|meheren|> so you can't get shckwave?
[10:39] <hav0k> nalioth, okay
[10:39] <Vorpulus> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[10:39] <|meheren|> shockwave?
[10:39] <bolrod> no non onono
[10:39] <nalioth> |meheren|: shockwave doesnt exist for linux yet
[10:39] <mustard5> Vorpulus, looking now..
[10:39] <|meheren|> ok
[10:39] <bolrod> the sdb1 is the firmware
[10:39] <bolrod> sdb2 is the one you want
[10:39] <|meheren|> what if u use the windows versin with wine?
[10:39] <bolrod> I think
[10:39] <hav0k> ok, well how do i change it?
[10:39] <nalioth> |meheren|: then have fun
[10:40] <Vorpulus> thanks mustard5
[10:40] <|meheren|> ok
[10:40] <bolrod> |meheren|: anyway... more sites use flash then shockwave
[10:40] <mustard5> Vorpulus, just to confirm..you are on breezy?
[10:40] <LjL> foxiness: anyway, there are intel binaries on the site, as .tar.gz... why not give a try with those before going with compile
[10:40] <bolrod> but possibly you 'could'
[10:40] <bolrod> but you dont want that I think
[10:40] <|meheren|> yeh i know games use shockwave manly
[10:40] <Vorpulus> yes, well... I hope so!
[10:40] <slew> nalioth, i got the deb sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb and it says the archive type not supported
[10:40] <dabaR__> slew: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[10:40] <Seveas> slew, sudo dpkg -i sun-jre*.deb
[10:40] <Vorpulus> I downloaded it yesterday, and if I understand correctly breezy is the latest version
[10:40] <mustard5> Vorpulus, yes
[10:40] <|meheren|> yes it is
[10:40] <LjL> foxiness: i mean, there are binaries in the ubuntu "qemu" package too, but i don't quite know if they are compatible with the accel module
[10:40] <Vorpulus> I'm pretty sure that's what I have
[10:40] <dabaR__> Seveas: when is the next ubuntu community meeting?
[10:40] <mustard5> Vorpulus, that sources.list is fine to copy directly over your old one
[10:40] <|meheren|> Vorpuls: breezy is latest
[10:41] <Seveas> dabaR__, see the agenda
[10:41] <bolrod> hav0k: you can mount the /dev/sdb2?
[10:41] <Vorpulus> yep, so which lines do I copy?
[10:41] <|meheren|> arg
[10:41] <hav0k> bolrod, ill try
[10:41] <Vorpulus> all of them?
[10:41] <nalioth> slew: in a terminal, type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[10:41] <|meheren|> im mean
[10:41] <mustard5> Vorpulus, all
[10:41] <bolrod> mount -t vfat /dev/sdb2 /media/ipod/
[10:41] <|meheren|> vurpulus:breezy is latest
[10:41] <Vorpulus> thanks mate
[10:41] <mustard5> Vorpulus, come back if you have problems :)
[10:41] <angelwratton> bolrod e-mail me plz at angelwratton18Yahoo.com ok
[10:41] <Vorpulus> I'm sure I will... :P
[10:41] <mustard5> Vorpulus, sources are easy to fix ;)
[10:41] <tommi^> Hi. I made a key with seahorse and now evolution can't decrypt using it and gpg complains gpg: can't connect to "`/tmp//seahorse-HgDVNd/S.gpg-agent': No such file or directory" Argh. What did that seahorse made to my brand new key and how can I fix it? Thanks
[10:41] <bolrod> angelwratton: why?
[10:42] <hav0k> bolrod, yeah, that worked
[10:42] <bolrod> angelwratton: just write this exactly in your irc screen
[10:42] <angelwratton> plz just e-mail me
[10:42] <foxiness> LjL, i have this "qemu" installed on my system from hoary day,and now i need the kqemu
[10:42] <bolrod> '/join #ubuntu-offtopic'
[10:42] <bolrod> angelwratton: rather not
[10:42] <dabaR__> Seveas: damn corporate agenda:))
[10:42] <foxiness> LjL, what about xen ?
[10:42] <bolrod> dont like e-mail
[10:42] <angelwratton> FINE
[10:42] <mustard5> Vorpulus, when you change it to a new sources list do a sudo apt-get update  command in your terminal too..to update the package list
[10:42] <LjL> foxiness: never tried it
[10:43] <bolrod> angelwratton: thats indeed fine
[10:43] <Vorpulus> That command wasn't working before, mustard5
[10:43] <bolrod> fine.. hav0k gtkpod works now?
[10:43] <mustard5> Vorpulus, do it after you fix your old one
[10:43] <Vorpulus> oh ok
[10:43] <LjL> foxiness: the problem with ubuntu's qemu is that i have no idea how to add kqemu to it... but on the other hand, on http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/kqemu-doc.html there are very specific instruction for installing it over the original (source or binary) qemu .tar.gz
[10:43] <LjL> foxiness: so i think it
[10:43] <angelwratton> i'm sorry
[10:43] <bolrod> gtkpod is far from convenient... but it works
[10:44] <hav0k> bolrod, i dont know, im its kinda frozen under gtkpod... but i can look in local... im thinking maybe its reading?
[10:44] <Vorpulus> mustard, the file is opening as read-only?!
[10:44] <LjL> foxiness: so i think it'd be easier to get the .tar.gz than to use the ubuntu package, even if you have it already installed
[10:44] <bolrod> erh
[10:44] <bolrod> frozen... ?
[10:44] <hav0k> bolrod, yeah, it is reading... its slowly showing up
[10:44] <mustard5> Vorpulus, use sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in terminal
[10:45] <StyXman> hi all
[10:45] <hav0k> bolrod, oh, but  wait, im using it also under amaroK and it's working there too... so am i going to have to manuallyl mount it this way everytime?
[10:45] <Alex[RM-UK] > Hey,
[10:45] <StyXman> anyone tried to use the 2.6.14 kernel in debian sid w/ breezy?
[10:45] <mustard5> Vorpulus, basically that command is saying 'with superuser privileges open in gedit the file at /etc/apt/ called sources.list
[10:45] <LjL> foxiness: from the Xen site, i gather than OSes must be (slightly?) modified to work on Xen
[10:45] <StyXman> I get a ``cannot open initial console'' message
[10:45] <hav0k> bolrod, or is there some way i can set it up to do it automatically
[10:45] <bolrod> erh
[10:45] <StyXman> but I don't have devfs installed and 2,.6.14 does not even support it
[10:45] <LjL> foxiness: so it doesn't quite look like the easiest choice to just test a distro
[10:45] <bolrod> my ipod did mount automatically
[10:45] <bolrod> I dont kow why
[10:45] <bolrod> know*
[10:45] <Alex[RM-UK] > i'm trying to install the latest Kopete, so I can sign into MSN - but it's not in the new Kubuntu resporities,
[10:45] <Vorpulus> ohh... so that's what sudo means?
[10:45] <bolrod> under ubuntu that is
[10:45] <bolrod> in debian I had to do it manually
[10:46] <Alex[RM-UK] > im trying to compile it, but it says:
[10:46] <hav0k> bolrod, oh, hahaha, well, i guess ill look into it
[10:46] <Vorpulus> I've been typing that thing in a lot because it's the only thing that ever works, and now I know why ;)
[10:46] <nalioth> Alex[RM-UK] : then you'll have to build it from source
[10:46] <autogenerated_> heyas
[10:46] <mustard5> Vorpulus, sudo is like ' SuperUserDo'
[10:46] <bolrod> there is some usb-automount or something
[10:46] <Alex[RM-UK] > configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[10:46] <Alex[RM-UK] > See `config.log' for more details.
[10:46] <Vorpulus> Ah I see
[10:46] <bolrod> or automount
[10:46] <bolrod> dont know exaclt
[10:46] <bolrod> exactly
[10:46] <sparks> YOO!
[10:46] <crimsun> StyXman: um, please don't go around randomly installing kernels from other distros
[10:46] <nalioth> Alex[RM-UK] : install "build-essential"
[10:46] <Vorpulus> alright so now I type in that other thing you said...
[10:46] <foxiness> LjL, yeah the vmware 5 amazing :)
[10:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Alex[RM-UK]  about checkinstall
[10:46] <sparks> who needs some help
[10:47] <LjL> mustard5: in italian, "sudo" means "I'm sweating", and it represents the concept quite well for me ;-)
[10:47] <nalioth> Alex[RM-UK] : use checkinstall intead of "make install" you'll be happier
[10:47] <mustard5> Vorpulus, in your terminal which can be accessed at Applications>>Accessories menu
[10:47] <hav0k> bolrod, hmm, i dont konw... i guess ill look around on the internet, and maybe ask some people in this other room im in... they seem to know alot about linux systems in general.  very helpfull
[10:47] <Toran> hey guys, how can I set my cursor theme in fluxbox? I know you can do it in KDE by going to the control center, but I don't know how in fluxbox :-L. I'm on kubuntu
[10:47] <mustard5> LjL, hehe
[10:47] <davro> hi all, does anyone know of any tutorials about encrypting usbstick, using it like a encrypted partion.
[10:47] <don824chan> i'm having a problem with Gnome Bittorrent
[10:47] <StyXman> crimsun: ahm, I actually installed the sources and compiled
[10:47] <angelwratton> boys r boring
[10:47] <sparks> Toran , i believe that there is a fluxbox configuration gui
[10:47] <Vorpulus> yep, I've now edited the sources.list file and saved it
[10:47] <Vorpulus> then I went into console and did sudo apt-get update
[10:47] <StyXman> it's not random; I actually spected it to work...
[10:47] <bolrod> hav0k: its not that difficult
[10:47] <Vorpulus> it's still coming up with a lot of errors
[10:47] <crimsun> StyXman: but are you familiar with Ubuntu's config? If not, you're liable to encounter issues such as the one you just did
[10:47] <sparks> davro , i'm sure google has something...you can do it though
[10:47] <sparks> PGP style
[10:47] <bolrod> hav0k: at least your ipod mounts....
[10:47] <mustard5> Vorpulus, have you used the pastebin before?
[10:48] <bolrod> in debian I was working under a kernel that didn't support it
[10:48] <Vorpulus> mustard, no
[10:48] <titanium> anyone know if the onboard SATA on an asus a7n8x deluxe will support a 300gb sata hdd?
[10:48] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Vorpulus about pastebin
[10:48] <Toran> sparks: that GUI has a setting for the cursor theme?
[10:48] <remyforbes777> does anyone know the xpde package name
[10:48] <Toran> o.O
[10:48] <bolrod> so I upgraded the kernel.. which was fine.. then other things broke down.. :p
[10:48] <hav0k> bolrod, yeah... ill just have to figure out where the usb-automount file is or whatever.... i know my thumb drive automounts
[10:48] <sparks> titanium , should do
[10:48] <davro> sparks: will rollback to google, cheers.
[10:48] <sparks> davro , no problem :)
[10:48] <mustard5> Vorpulus, go to the link ubotu sent you and paste your errors in there...then give me the URL
[10:48] <don824chan> I'm having a problem with Gnome Bittorrent
[10:48] <Alex[RM-UK] > Ok, I did that - now it says:
[10:48] <Alex[RM-UK] > checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[10:48] <slew> nalioth, thanks! that WAS no muss OR fuss. =]  appreciate it.
[10:48] <bolrod> hav0k: hrm... well.. should be the same thing..
[10:48] <nalioth> don824chan: we need more info than that
[10:48] <bolrod> its just another usb drive
[10:48] <sparks> is anyone looking for a kernel upgrade??
[10:48] <crimsun> Alex[RM-UK] : what are you trying to build?
[10:48] <don824chan> Whenever I try to save a file already in progress that's a folder
[10:49] <nalioth> Alex[RM-UK] : join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[10:49] <don824chan> it just opens the folder
[10:49] <hav0k> bolrod, yeah, i guess, but thanks alot for the help... even though it was so simple...hahaha, im not a linux expert yet... or standard user yet... haha
[10:49] <Alex[RM-UK] > ah, thought as it was kubuntu ... it would be relevent,
[10:49] <don824chan> i've tried multiple ways of tricking it into saving over the folder but it always just opens it
[10:49] <bolrod> hav0k: most things are really simple
[10:49] <bolrod> :)
[10:49] <hav0k> ha, okay
[10:49] <hav0k> yeah
[10:49] <Alex[RM-UK] > crimsun, im trying to build Kopete
[10:49] <bolrod> like a simple syntax error.. or type-error :)
[10:50] <nalioth> Alex[RM-UK] : got ya covered in #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:50] <hav0k> yeah, that is right, i was trying to set up my printer and the people i was talking to were making it really complicated and i spent like 3 hours trying to do it, but then i just went on google and looked it up and did it in like 10 minutes...
[10:50] <hav0k> hahaha
[10:50] <topyli> bolrod: user errors mostly :)
[10:50] <Vorpulus> mustard5, do I just put the text in with my name and click send?
[10:50] <duke3z> gotta love google :)
[10:50] <StyXman> crimsun: I made a make oldconfig over a previous .config file from 2.6.11 which does work
[10:50] <bolrod> ERROR: PEBKAC
[10:50] <bolrod> ;p
[10:50] <dmoyne> Hello ! ; with this config : Motherboard AMD MSI K8N Neo 4F (socket 939) + Video Card PCI-X ATI Radeon X300 SE (128 Mo) +  Monitor TFT Samsung SynMaster 930BF 19" 1280 x 1024, any hope to get 3D acceleration workin on either 32 bit or 64 bit Ubuntu Breezy distribution ? ; thanks.
[10:50] <hav0k> yeah, and im digging google.com/linux
[10:51] <mustard5> Vorpulus, yes...that will generate the page and then you will have a unique URL to show me in here
[10:51] <crimsun> StyXman: but you didn't build an initramfs
[10:51] <Vorpulus> oh wow that's pretty nice. Here's the URL: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4076
[10:51] <hav0k> well thanks alot, ill mess around and see if it will auto mount
[10:51] <mustard5> Vorpulus, well done..reading now..
[10:51] <don824chan> OK how about I list it all on one line.  I'm trying to continue a torrent download with Gnome Bittorrent that happens to be a folder.  When I attempt to continue it, it asks what directory and what name.  When the name is entered correctly in the correct directory, instead of actually continuing the download, it opens the folder that I'm downloading and asks what the name of the file is in there.  How do I circumvent this pr
[10:51] <don824chan> oblem?
[10:51] <bolrod> damn
[10:51] <LjL> bye
[10:52] <StyXman> crimsun: neityher did I w/ the 2.6.11 that is runnning now and that always run...
[10:52] <Vorpulus> Thanks, looks like all the helpful guys are on linux...
[10:52] <erUSUL_> !tell dmoyne about ati
[10:52] <nalioth> don824chan: use bittornado-gui?
[10:52] <bolrod> now he forgot he must eject the drive before removing it
[10:52] <don824chan> Are you telling or asking?
[10:52] <crimsun> StyXman: then which configuration options did you forget to toggle?
[10:52] <mustard5> Vorpulus, it appears you have a networking problem.....no route to host
[10:52] <lsuactiafner> what can qemu actually run?
[10:53] <nalioth> don824chan: it's a rhetorical ?. use bittornado-gui
[10:53] <Vorpulus> I'm on a network at University
[10:53] <don824chan> k thx
[10:53] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: anything the host machine can run
[10:53] <don824chan> anyone help me get it to work on Gnome Bittorrent?
[10:53] <dmoyne>  erUSUL_ : no much I can tell ! ; I followed different ideas got from various forums but no way to get Direct Rendering !
[10:53] <bolrod> don824chan: use azureus... ?
[10:53] <lsuactiafner> nalioth : can it run win98?
[10:53] <mustard5> Vorpulus, I can only assume that the university has some type of restriction on your access
[10:53] <bolrod> azureus is nice... I think
[10:53] <lsuactiafner> assuming its amd64 but 32bit emulation
[10:53] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: anything the host machine can run
[10:53] <don824chan> could you please stop telling me to use something other than Gnome Bittorrent?
[10:54] <Toran> How can I globally change the ubuntu cursor theme from the terminal?
[10:54] <bolrod> whats not working with gnome Bittorrent then?\
[10:54] <don824chan> ...
[10:54] <bolrod> hrm
[10:54] <duke3z> hello, i r ubuntu No0b
[10:54] <bolrod> I might have misread..
[10:54] <mustard5> Vorpulus, you might enquire with those familiar with your universtity network what the issue might be
[10:54] <nalioth> don824chan: gnome-bittorrent is probably the worst implementation of bittorrent i've seen
[10:54] <don824chan> don824chan OK how about I list it all on one line.  I'm trying to continue a torrent download with Gnome Bittorrent that happens to be a folder.  When I attempt to continue it, it asks what directory and what name.  When the name is entered correctly in the correct directory, instead of actually continuing the download, it opens the folder that I'm downloading and asks what the name of the file is in there.  How do I circumv
[10:54] <don824chan> ent this problem?
[10:54] <sparks> duke3z , yes and
[10:54] <Vorpulus> Oh ok. I'm not actually connected in the same way as the computers in the library are...
[10:54] <lsuactiafner> cool thanks
[10:54] <duke3z> just thought i'd say, "wazzzupppp"
[10:54] <don824chan> nalioth: I've got less than 2gb of space left on thsi hard drive
[10:54] <sparks> :-D
[10:54] <sparks> thats perfectly ok here :-D
[10:55] <KjetilK> apache 1 isn't in kubuntu, right?
[10:55] <Vorpulus> For example, if you type 'who' on one of those computers, you get a list of everyone using it, but if you type that on mine, you get me, and that's it
[10:55] <coz> Is there an application similar to BeShare from BeOs
[10:55] <Vorpulus> perhaps it's not set up right
[10:55] <sparks> KjetilK , apache 2 has been out for a while..
[10:55] <Taa5i> Is someone aware of a dd-type program that can write arbitrary binary data [eg all 0's and 1's and random] , supporting multiple devices at once for ouput, and progress indicator with logging ability please?
[10:55] <ognjen> hi all, how to combine gnome-session with windowmaker?
[10:55] <turion> c #aros
[10:55] <sparks> Vorpulus , try just w
[10:55] <duke3z> this should play net tv better windows shouldn't it?
[10:55] <nalioth> don824chan: yes? bittornado-gui takes up little space
[10:55] <mustard5> Vorpulus, yep ok...not knowing how your network functions its a bit hard to suggest solutions
[10:55] <KjetilK> sparks: yup, but there is still a lot of stuff that depends on apache 1
[10:56] <don824chan> nalioth: so I should remove gnome-bittorrent?
[10:56] <sparks> duke3z , *nix is better in all ways :D
[10:56] <bolrod> don824chan: aha.. well.. that I dont know.. no experience
[10:56] <coz> Taa5i try ubuntuforums cannel
[10:56] <Vorpulus> Is that the only problem there mustard5? What about that thing at the bottom? I keep getting that too
[10:56] <nalioth> don824chan: you can leave it, it takes up little space
[10:56] <mustard5> Vorpulus, checking now...
[10:56] <duke3z> lol sparks,  i've been running mandrake 10.0, just wanted to try this.  i really like it so far
[10:56] <Vorpulus> This is so helpful, thanks.
[10:56] <dabaR__> ognjen: what is windowmaker?
[10:56] <KjetilK> reason I'm asking about apache 1 is that if it isn't in ubuntu, then the plan to use apt-cache to get the package names failed... :-|
[10:56] <don824chan> its just that i've used bittornado on windows before and didn't like it at all
[10:57] <sparks> duke3z , its different... should be easier for you to get proggies though
[10:57] <ognjen> dabar, it's a window manager, see wmaker
[10:57] <mustard5> Vorpulus, the last error is because you have synaptic open while using apt-get in terminal..you can only use one or the other, so close synatpic package manager when using apt-get in terminal
[10:57] <tommi^> I'm still wondering what seahorse has done: even while creating a new key with gpg I get: gpg: can't connect to `/tmp//seahorse-HgDVNd/S.gpg-agent': No such file or directory
[10:57] <Toran> How can I globally change the ubuntu cursor theme from the terminal?
[10:58] <mustard5> Vorpulus, its saying that apt-get is locked out of handling the packages because synaptic is open and being used
[10:58] <duke3z> looks like it should be, first will be the net tv.  i wanna get to www.housepartytv.com  for their stream
[10:58] <tommi^> I found references to my seahorse/gpg from internet but they were in italy, so no luck.
[10:58] <don824chan> what is the command to run bittornado?
[10:58] <Vorpulus> ah yes, I should have known that, I read something about it somewhere...
[10:58] <nalioth> don824chan: there are other torrent clients available, search in synaptic for them
[10:58] <mustard5> Vorpulus, np , I do it all the time :)
[10:58] <Vorpulus> on one of my many entering-errors-into-google fests
[10:58] <StyXman> crimsun: well, dunno
[10:59] <StyXman> I mean, it's almost the same setup
[10:59] <bolrod> btdownloadcurses or something
[10:59] <Vorpulus> Can you believe I was actually proud when I installed Real Player, something I don't even need? :(
[10:59] <StyXman> lemme check something
[10:59] <crimsun> "almost"?
[10:59] <duke3z> i need realplayer
[10:59] <mustard5> Vorpulus, its an achievement nevertheless :)
[10:59] <Vorpulus> haha.
[10:59] <sparks> duke3z , so go get it
[10:59] <StyXman> crimsun: well, there are differences between 2.6.11 and 1.6.14
[10:59] <felipe_> Hola, como instalo el gcc 3.4 si ya tengo instalado el 4?
[10:59] <Vorpulus> well that's all I've managed to install thus far
[10:59] <sparks> duke3z , they support linux
[11:00] <felipe_> oop sorry
[11:00] <felipe_> wrong channel
[11:00] <duke3z> right on, will do.  how do i put your name infront when i speak to you?
[11:00] <mustard5> Vorpulus, yeah, you really need to tackle the network issue..its critical to your functionality
[11:00] <trappist> duke3z: type it.  and optionally take advantage of your irc client's tab complete feature.
[11:00] <crimsun> StyXman: the config options common to both should not have changed.
[11:00] <Vorpulus> do you think that could be the root to many of the problems I am experiencing?
[11:00] <nalioth> !es
[11:00] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:01] <mustard5> Vorpulus, most definitely
[11:01] <Vorpulus> I'll see if anyone here knows
[11:01] <duke3z> i was looking for that
[11:01] <duke3z> have ur name highlighted
[11:01] <nalioth> felipe_: ingles aqui, espaol en #ubuntu-es, por favor
[11:01] <duke3z> what more do they want heha
[11:01] <mustard5> Vorpulus, k
[11:01] <felipe_> how do I install the 3.4 gcc when I already have the 4.0 gcc installed?
[11:01] <trappist> felipe_: apt-get install gcc-3.4
[11:02] <dabaR__> felipe_: apt should take care of it for you if the package name is different.
[11:02] <mustard5> Vorpulus, it may be as simple as needing to set up synaptic to use the university proxy server
[11:02] <felipe_> ok thanks
[11:02] <jonny> does anyone here use gmailFS?
[11:02] <Vorpulus> I've actually just re-located something I used to try and get the Internet working. No idea how I got the Internet working, honestly. It's the networking instructions for linux
[11:02] <mustard5> which reminds me of a question I have....How do you set up apt-get to use a proxy server?
[11:02] <sparks> jonny , i believe now its only under windows
[11:03] <sparks> jonny , but i have
[11:03] <Vorpulus> but they're dated
[11:03] <jonny> sparks: r we aloud 2 talk about that here?
[11:03] <StyXman> crimsun: and they didn't. I just removed some modules I don't need
[11:03] <dabaR__> well it works, which is what is important.
[11:03] <sparks> jonny , sure why not
[11:03] <sparks> :-p
[11:03] <jonny> okay, iv downloaded, but cant find it!
[11:04] <sparks> jonny , did you install it?
[11:04] <sparks> lol
[11:04] <crimsun> StyXman: so figure out why your VT and CONSOLE options have been altered
[11:04] <jonny> yes, sorry
[11:04] <sparks> jonny , it should be in my computer
[11:04] <sparks> as a new drive
[11:04] <Vorpulus> *ahem*, not so sure about that one mustard. ;)
[11:04] <jonny> im using ubuntu
[11:04] <jonny> from windows
[11:04] <jonny> where is my computer
[11:04] <mustard5> Vorupulus, hehe yeah..I try to find out now so I know too :)
[11:04] <dabaR__> in front of you
[11:04] <codeprophet> lol
[11:04] <dabaR__> well what did he expect
[11:05] <StyXman> crimsun: ok
[11:05] <trappist> mustard5: I believe it goes in /etc/apt/preferences
[11:05] <sparks> jonny , ?? its just on the desktop or in the start menu..
[11:05] <trappist> but I could be wrong
[11:05] <mustard5> trappist, thanks..checking that now ;)
[11:05] <jonny> im using ubuntu
[11:06] <jonny> sparks: im using ubuntu
[11:06] <sparks> jonny , is there a gmailfs under linux
[11:06] <sparks> ??
[11:06] <trappist> sparks: it's available, yes
[11:07] <Vorpulus> mustard5, the trouble with these instructions is it says things like: You need to ensure you have a DHCP client installed. Then it goes on to say how to do that on Redhat and Mandrake
[11:07] <sparks> jonny , hang on let me install and tell you
[11:07] <jonny> okay
[11:07] <cusco> sparks: apt-cache search gmailfs
[11:07] <StyXman> crimsun: well, I have devfs compiled in 2.6.11, but I don't have devfsd. 2.6.14 doesn't have devfs...
[11:07] <sparks> cusco , why not just install :_
[11:07] <cusco> jonny: I tried it but I was never able to mount it
[11:07] <trappist> sparks: http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html
[11:07] <calamari> hi
[11:07] <jonny> cusco: better then me!
[11:07] <cusco> jonny: what do you get?
[11:07] <jonny> i couldnt even find it, cusco
[11:07] <mustard5> Vorpulus, you might ask the channel about the problem of setting up DHCP  I'm not very good with networking
[11:07] <cusco> jonny: sudo apt-get install gmailfs
[11:08] <jonny> no...iv installed it, cusco
[11:08] <jonny> cusco: i dont know where it is lol
[11:08] <mustard5> trappist, it appears I have no file called preferences in /etc/apt :)
[11:08] <cusco> jonny: sudo updatedb; locate gmailfs
[11:08] <Vorpulus> mustard5, I'd just about started to get the impression you knew everything - my apologies!
[11:08] <adri> hi all
[11:08] <cusco> jonny: I supose under /etc/
[11:08] <mustard5> Vorpulus, :)
[11:09] <calamari> certain things don't seem to be syslogged.  is ubuntu filtering them out of /var/log/messages to someplace else?
[11:09] <Vorpulus> Is anyone good at networking on linux?
[11:09] <erUSUL_> mustard5, create it yourself
[11:09] <trappist> Vorpulus: sudo apt-get install dhcp3-client
[11:09] <Vorpulus> thanks
[11:09] <erUSUL_> calamari, which things
[11:09] <dabaR__> sudo dpkg -L gmailfs is better
[11:09] <felipe_> how do I link the gcc 3.4 insteado of the gcc 4?
[11:10] <trappist> felipe_: ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc
[11:10] <calamari> erUSUL: certain errors being logged by a python program
[11:10] <GMachine_24> Hi. Anyone here familiar with Cinerella and have you successfully used it w/ Ubuntu?
[11:10] <jonny> dabaR__: can you help me with gmailfs?
[11:10] <StyXman> crimsun: also, I have udev installed...
[11:10] <crimsun> trappist: god no, don't do that
[11:10] <dabaR__> jonny: I just did a little bit.
[11:10] <adri> im a new linux user, i enjoy it a lot, but i've a problem, i dont arrive to install my wifi card (rtl8081), my linux is Ubuntu... Please help me
[11:10] <Vorpulus> trappist, that resulted in all kinds of things starting with W: Couldn't start source package list
[11:10] <felipe_> trappist, thanks, is that all?
[11:10] <jonny> oh, sorry
[11:10] <dabaR__> jonny: if you arew asking whether I know how to set it up, then no
[11:10] <mustard5> erUSUL_, having created this file where would I look to find the syntax for setting up an apt-get preferences file?
[11:10] <crimsun> trappist: force the Makefile to honor $(CC), but don't randomly resymlink the compiler
[11:11] <nalioth> Vorpulus: only two things, it should have been
[11:11] <trappist> felipe_: crimsun thinks it's a bad idea.  I think he wants to use update-alternatives or export CC=gcc-3.4 or something
[11:11] <erUSUL_> mustard5, google??
[11:11] <jonny> i gotcha
[11:11] <GMachine_24> adri have you checked the wifi manufacturer for linux drivers and have you checked to see if your wifi card is compatible with linux?
[11:11] <mustard5> erUSUL_, I'll see how I go :)
[11:11] <nalioth> felipe_: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 is the safest
[11:11] <felipe_> trappist, well I kinda executed the command..
[11:11] <Vorpulus> nalioth, what do you mean?
[11:11] <adri> im a new linux user, i enjoy it a lot, but i've a problem, i dont arrive to install my wifi card (rtl8081), my linux is Ubuntu... Please help me
[11:11] <felipe_> trappist, how do I go back?
[11:12] <trappist> felipe_: you can undo it, but I disagree with crimsun about it being a bad idea
[11:12] <nalioth> Vorpulus: paste your errors into a pastebin please
[11:12] <GMachine_24> adri: i just gave you an answer.
[11:12] <Vorpulus> okay
[11:12] <felipe_> trappist, ok
[11:12] <adri> sorry i didnt see it..
[11:12] <GMachine_24> well scroll up
[11:12] <trappist> felipe_: ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc should return it to its original state
[11:12] <hawking> crimsun: are you here?
[11:12] <felipe_> trappist, oh thanks
[11:12] <GMachine_24> Cinerella, anyone?
[11:12] <crimsun> trappist: it's definitely a bad idea. What happens to CPP and CXX?
[11:12] <trappist> felipe_: what are you trying to accomplish?
[11:13] <crimsun> you'd have to continually resymlink them, too
[11:13] <GMachine_24> I want world peace.
[11:13] <GMachine_24> oh.
[11:13] <Vorpulus> nalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4080
[11:13] <calamari> erUSUL_: it seems that only WARNING, NOTICE, and INFO messages are being logged, and not the rest
[11:13] <trappist> crimsun: if you need to change those too, you can do that
[11:13] <adri> in fact, ive searched information about my wifi card over google, and from my search, my wifi card is compatible..
[11:13] <dabaR__> later
[11:13] <StyXman> adri: ndiswrapper is your safest way to go
[11:13] <GMachine_24> ok adri.
[11:13] <nalioth> trappist: exporting the variable takes care of all that
[11:13] <felipe_> trappist, compile the kernel module for the nvidia
[11:13] <trappist> crimsun: I do it all the time, but I guess I know how to deal with the consequences
[11:13] <erUSUL_> calamari, then you should configure syslogd
[11:13] <GMachine_24> adri: ubuntu does not recognize the card - I'm assuming this is true.
[11:13] <crimsun> trappist: it's preferable to export CC=gcc-3.4 CXX=g++-3.4 CPP=cpp-3.4, etc.
[11:14] <crimsun> trappist: yes, but not everyone does know the hidden gotchas
[11:14] <trappist> felipe_: ah.  yeah, fixing the symlink should fix that, exporting CC should fix that, and I think nvidia's installer has an option to choose the compiler.
[11:14] <slew> wheres a good site for ubuntu breezy themes?
[11:14] <hawking> I am trying to install breezy to my laptop and on a documentation I saw to start the boot with the option init=/bin/sh and move the hotplug scripts to somewhere else and boot again(the problem is caused by hotplug) but when I try to move it says --> Error: Read only filesystem . My filesystem is ext3.Should i change it to smth else?
[11:14] <crimsun> hawking: yes?
[11:14] <erUSUL_> calamari, to log everything
[11:14] <adri> GMachine: i dont understand.. Does it mean my card is not compatible?
[11:14] <nalioth> Vorpulus: have you dont what it says? updated?
[11:14] <calamari> erUSUL_: how do I do that?  dpkg-reconfigure syslogd  isn't doing it, because it's not a package
[11:14] <Vorpulus> that doesn't work either nalioth
[11:14] <GMachine_24> Adri: No, sorry. What make/model is your wifi card adri?
[11:14] <crimsun> hawking: mount -o remount,rw /
[11:14] <felipe_> trappist, no it doesn't
[11:14] <kbrooks> adri: nduswrapper shouldf help you
[11:15] <Vorpulus> that results in another series of errors....
[11:15] <nalioth> Vorpulus: what doesnt work?
[11:15] <erUSUL_> calamari, edit /etc/syslog.conf
[11:15] <felipe_> trappist, I'll see if it works now, thanks.
[11:15] <trappist> crimsun: it'd be less of an issue if ubuntu would build everything (including the kernel) with the same compiler that comes with build-essential
[11:15] <calamari> thanks.. aha they are going to /var/log/debug
[11:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell adri about ndiswrapper
[11:15] <polo_> hey
[11:15] <GMachine_24> adri pay attention
[11:15] <nalioth> adri: look at your private messages
[11:15] <crimsun> trappist: it would have been nice if the kernel could have been compiled with the same compiler.
[11:15] <Vorpulus> the update thing doesn't work
[11:15] <adri> kbrooks: im a newB, can u give me a good documentation about nduswrapper please
[11:16] <hawking> crimsun : do i have to change it back to read only after I move the scripts. will that effect the remaining part of the install?
[11:16] <nalioth> Vorpulus: we need more info than "it doesnt work"
[11:16] <crimsun> trappist: but it obviously couldn't have been at the time, so we didn't use it.
[11:16] <kbrooks> adri: nope. i dont use wireless
[11:16] <nalioth> adri: you have good documentation, read your PM from ubotu
[11:16] <trappist> crimsun: especially that.  better than sarge, though, where the compiler they use to build the kernel isn't even available as a package.
[11:16] <Vorpulus> nalioth, shall I do another pastebin thing?
[11:16] <nalioth> Vorpulus: please
[11:16] <crimsun> hawking: no need to change it back.
[11:16] <hawking> crimsun : thanks again and again and again :)
[11:16] <IRCMonkey> how doi burn ubuntu to boot
[11:16] <buvens> hi i tried to play back a dvd with having libdvdcss2 and totem-xine installed
[11:17] <buvens> but it still says
[11:17] <buvens> "you're trying to play an encrypted dvd without libdvdcss2"
[11:17] <adri> thank you, im going to look and if i dont arrive to configure my wifi card, i'll go back.. thank u again.. see u later
[11:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell buvens about libdvdcss2
[11:17] <erUSUL_> !tell buvens about dvd
[11:17] <trappist> buvens: sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[11:17] <Vorpulus> actually nalioth it's pretty short: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4081
[11:17] <IRCMonkey> how can i boot ubuntu_
[11:17] <GMachine_24> good luck adri
[11:17] <DjKritical> Does ubuntu recommend an email server to use?
[11:18] <buvens> yeah i did that
[11:18] <buvens> install-css.sh thing
[11:18] <erUSUL_> IRCMonkey, set your bios to boot from cd
[11:18] <trappist> weird
[11:18] <GMachine_24> monkey: do you have the ubuntu install iso file?
[11:18] <DjKritical> Can anyone recomment an Email server for Ubuntu which makes it easy to setup virtual domains?
[11:18] <budluva> can someone help me here? i get this error when trying to run racer, but get this error bin/racer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:18] <budluva> . i've searched synaptic/apt for this and nothing shows, i have libsdtc++6 installed though, why wont it run?
[11:18] <IRCMonkey> do i just burn all the files in the zip and reboot_
[11:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Vorpulus about apt-get
[11:19] <IRCMonkey> machine >no
[11:19] <GMachine_24> monkey: if you have the ubuntu install version as an iso you burn it to a cd and you can boot from that cd
[11:19] <trappist> budluva: there are several versions of libstdc++
[11:19] <sharrock> Hello, bonsoir!
[11:19] <GMachine_24> monkey: and then install ubuntu as per screen instrux
[11:19] <WildZeck> make a symbolic link from libstcc++ ... so to libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[11:19] <erUSUL_> IRCMonkey, you have dl an iso file, haven't you?
[11:20] <WildZeck> budluva,
[11:20] <IRCMonkey> i have no iso file
[11:20] <budluva> trappist, well i cant find the version with libc
[11:20] <Knowerrors> Anyone know how to fix this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80707&highlight=kdsetkeycode ?
[11:20] <StyXman> crimsun: seems like devfs is the one to blame here
[11:20] <GMachine_24> monkey: then d/l the ubuntu install iso file
[11:20] <budluva> WildZeck, yes?
[11:20] <GMachine_24> and burn it to a cd
[11:20] <StyXman> crimsun: do you know how udev works? any good pointers?
[11:20] <Vorpulus> nalioth, does that cover the error?
[11:20] <erUSUL_> IRCMonkey, you need it to burn the install cd an install ubuntu
[11:20] <nalioth> budluva: where did you get the game?
[11:20] <nalioth> Vorpulus: you need to read that article
[11:20] <GMachine_24> monkey: check www.linuxiso.org for more information
[11:20] <IRCMonkey> what burn proram_
[11:20] <budluva> nalioth, www.racer.nl
[11:20] <Vorpulus> ok nalioth, thanks
[11:20] <nalioth> budluva: did you compile it or get a deb?
[11:21] <GMachine_24> monkey check linuxiso.org for instructions
[11:21] <budluva> nalioth, compiled
[11:21] <trappist> budluva: sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[11:21] <nalioth> budluva: then you shouldnt be having problems
[11:21] <buvens> and another question is
[11:21] <budluva> nalioth, err nm, comiled fmod (for sound) then just unzipped the games data/bin archives and tried to run bin/racer
[11:21] <buvens> i put a module into /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[11:21] <trappist> budluva: or, sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update && apt-file search libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[11:21] <buvens> so it doesn't load on startup
[11:21] <nalioth> budluva: ah! that's why
[11:21] <buvens> but it still gets loaded
[11:21] <GMachine_24> Anyone use Cinerella?
[11:21] <nalioth> trappist: his game is looking for debian pkgs, not ubuntu ones
[11:22] <trappist> nalioth: aren't debian and ubuntu packges mostly binary-compatible?
[11:22] <nalioth> trappist: not anymore
[11:22] <WildZeck> lessly
[11:22] <trappist> I see.
[11:23] <budluva> trappist, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 worked, thanks bro
[11:23] <Vorpulus> ah yes nalioth, I missed out the sudo bit... However, there are now a load of errors about "no route to host". mustard5 says it is a network problem (if I remember right)
[11:23] <nalioth> Vorpulus: it is a network problem, yes
[11:23] <felipe_> trappist, Well it compiled without trouble :) Now it won't load the nvidia module 'cos it doesn't find an useable resolution.
[11:24] <GMachine_24> buvens: I don't know. I have never gotten ubuntu to play a dvd movie although i did easily with red hat/fedora
[11:24] <erUSUL_> felipe_, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:25] <_jason> does anyone else experience light (as in not dark) printing when printing a pdf?  Is there anyway to access some kind of printing settings for evince?
[11:25] <buvens> and why does wxvlc use wxgtk2.4 with ugly gtk1?
[11:25] <dell500> does anyone know how to test fglrx??
[11:25] <felipe_> erUSUL_, ok, thanks. Do I have to log out of X to do that?
[11:25] <trappist> dell500: glxinfo | grep rendering
[11:26] <Cornellius> How to install KDE on Ubuntu ?
[11:26] <erUSUL_> felipe_, no need to...
[11:26] <trappist> Cornellius: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:26] <erUSUL_> Cornellius, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:27] <marska> Hello... Trying to play restricted formats and I can't seem to bring up the codec packages in Synaptic (have multi, restricted and universe checked) and when I try to use the terminal, it tells me that the admin directory is in use
[11:27] <marska> I need to be able to play wmv, mov, etc so how do I do this?
[11:27] <marska> I'm running on Breezy
[11:27] <dell500> does fglrx support dual monitors?
[11:27] <trappist> !tell marska about w32codecs
[11:28] <Cornellius> Thanks to both
[11:28] <erUSUL_> marska, admin directory? you have to close synaptic to use comand line apt
[11:28] <Cornellius> I like both desktop
[11:28] <Cornellius> cant decide which is my fav
[11:28] <GMachine_24> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:28] <marska> erUSUL_, Oh
[11:28] <jonny> rhythmbox quits unexpectidly every time i open it!
[11:28] <sharrock> Could somebody help me please : fglrx does not load ((EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOMEM")
[11:29] <erUSUL_> jonny, run it from comand line to see error messages
[11:29] <jonny> what command, ersul_?
[11:29] <GMachine_24> marska: have you tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:29] <marska> GMachine_24, Yes
[11:29] <GMachine_24> ok
[11:29] <erUSUL_> jonny, rhythmbox
[11:29] <jonny> thats it?
[11:29] <jonny> okay
[11:30] <Vorpulus> nalioth, I have found some network instructions on my university website. I wasn't even able to do the first thing, which was to ensure I had a DHCP-client installed. trappist told me the command I needed to enter into the terminal. I put it in, but there were a series of errors something along the lines of W: Couldn't start source package list
[11:30] <jonny> rhythmboxerUSUL_: no error message!
[11:30] <nalioth> Vorpulus: you need to see the outside internet
[11:30] <trappist> Vorpulus: did you use sudo?  as in sudo apt-get install...
[11:31] <sharrock> I've being woring so much to try to load fglrx, could somebody help me ??
[11:31] <trappist> oh, that too
[11:31] <Vorpulus> yep, I copied your line straight in
[11:31] <dell500> how do i find out what version of fglrx i have?
[11:31] <trappist> Vorpulus: if you run 'dhclient' what does it say
[11:31] <Vorpulus> I'm too much of a newbie to even know how to run that :(
[11:31] <erUSUL_> jonny, nothing? it just dies? very weird im afraid i can not do much more
[11:31] <Vorpulus> oh, just type it in?
[11:31] <trappist> Vorpulus: open a console and type 'sudo dhclient'
[11:32] <Vorpulus> I'll do another pastebin thing...
[11:32] <jonny> hmm
[11:32] <jonny> okau
[11:32] <jonny> okay*
[11:33] <erUSUL_> Vorpulus, sudo apt-get install dhcp-client
[11:33] <nalioth> trappist: he's behind a uni firewall or something
[11:33] <Vorpulus> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4082
[11:33] <slew> wheres a good site for ubuntu breezy themes?
[11:33] <trappist> Vorpulus: it worked.  you have an ip address now.
[11:33] <Vorpulus> That's thing thing that gets me all the W: Couldn't stat source package errors
[11:34] <trappist> Vorpulus: all that should be left is to set up your browser and apt to use the proxy.
[11:34] <Vorpulus> is that hard?
[11:34] <GMachine_24> no
[11:34] <trappist> no
[11:34] <jonny> rhythmbox quits unexpectidly every time i open it!
[11:35] <Vorpulus> My Internet browser works, does that tell you anything? I don't know if the fact that works means something or not...
[11:35] <GMachine_24> it means you're connected
[11:35] <GMachine_24> .......i hope
[11:35] <trappist> Vorpulus: it does mean something.  now try sudo apt-get install vim or something
[11:35] <GMachine_24> haha
[11:35] <GMachine_24> sorry
[11:36] <n0odl3> % /home/n0odl3/share/tf-lib/stdlib.tf: No such file or directory
[11:36] <n0odl3> Can't read required library.
[11:36] <n0odl3>  does anyone knwo what this means?
[11:36] <Vorpulus> same kind of errors trappist
[11:36] <trappist> n0odl3: you're missing a library
[11:36] <n0odl3> trappist: how may obtain or look for this library/
[11:36] <Vorpulus> trappist, can I show you the university webpage I have on how to set this stuff up?
[11:36] <trappist> n0odl3: do you know what library is missing?
[11:36] <Stormx2> hey, would it be acceptable to write a How-To on the forums for connecting SPV e100/200s and more to Ubuntu? There is a Pocket PC guide, but this one requires more/different steps
[11:36] <mustard5> Vorpulus, try setting up proxy through synaptic...I'm still working out how to set up proxy on apt-get..its not straightforward
[11:36] <trappist> Vorpulus: first, remind me what kind of error you get with apt-get
[11:37] <n0odl3> well i presume stdlib.tf judging from the message above
[11:37] <mustard5> Vorpulus, there is supposed to be an apt.conf file but it doesn't exist
[11:37] <Vorpulus>  W:Couldn'tstatsourcepackage for loads of things
[11:37] <robertj> are the Novell layoffs really as bad as posts are letting on?
[11:37] <trappist> n0odl3: try sudo apt-get install tf
[11:37] <n0odl3> ok
[11:37] <mustard5> Vorpulus, there was also a 'no route to host' error
[11:38] <Stormx2> what command untars files? (.tar.gz)
[11:38] <Vorpulus> I'm missing that file?
[11:38] <trappist> Stormx2: tar zxf
[11:38] <trappist> Vorpulus: try sudo apt-get update
[11:38] <Vorpulus> no route to host was the error I got with get update
[11:38] <n0odl3> trappist: uhhh i got something tf but its still giving me the error message when i try to run the program
[11:38] <KjetilK> wooohoooo, I finally got my package list of the diff between popularity-contest and kubuntu CD! :-)
[11:38] <trappist> Vorpulus: before, or now?
[11:38] <Vorpulus> I'll try again
[11:39] <|meheren|> are there any like key commands for ubutnu like ctrl+alt+del for windows and apple+q for mac
[11:39] <|meheren|> ?
[11:39] <trappist> n0odl3: ln -s /usr/share/games/tf/stdlib.tf /home/n0odl3/share/tf-lib/
[11:39] <|meheren|> like can u open something if ubtunu freezes witch is unlikly i no
[11:39] <Vorpulus> it looks like some of the things work, but some of them don't
[11:39] <Vorpulus> pastebin time... :P
[11:40] <mustard5> Vorpulus, yes
[11:40] <trappist> Vorpulus: then it looks like some of your /etc/apt/sources.list is good and some isn't
[11:40] <marska> How do I navigate to my home directory in a terminal?
[11:40] <marska> I need to install a .deb file
[11:40] <topyli> |meheren|: yeah, we all miss ctrl-alt-del ;-)
[11:40] <GMachine_24> cd home
[11:40] <|meheren|> so there is no command?
[11:40] <erUSUL_> marska, with the cd comand and ls aor with mc (midnight commander)
[11:40] <n0odl3> hmm
[11:40] <n0odl3> this is peculiar
[11:40] <n0odl3> it says it does not exisit
[11:40] <n0odl3> *exsist
[11:40] <Vorpulus> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4083
[11:40] <felipe_> wich was the comand to reconfigure de xserver again? the bash history didn't save it, and X did not start with my 686 kernel
[11:40] <GMachine_24> exist?
[11:41] <topyli> |meheren|: i seem to remember it runs the process manager by default on windows? there's the gnome system monitor of course that does about the same. but it's not behind any key shortcut
[11:41] <Vorpulus> I copied that sources list from the pastebin page erUSUL gave me
[11:41] <Vorpulus> I hope I copied it correctly..
[11:41] <slew> color test
[11:41] <GMachine_24> Vorp: what are you searching for?
[11:41] <erUSUL_> felipe_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xorg
[11:41] <jron> where are modules being called? /etc/modules.conf does not exist....
[11:42] <n0odl3> trappist: this is the whole message
[11:42] <n0odl3> % LC_CTYPE category set to "en_US.UTF-8" locale.
[11:42] <n0odl3> % LC_TIME category set to "en_US.UTF-8" locale.
[11:42] <n0odl3> % /home/n0odl3/share/tf-lib/stdlib.tf: No such file or directory
[11:42] <n0odl3> Can't read required library
[11:42] <Vorpulus> Sorry GMachine?
[11:42] <slew> color test
[11:42] <GMachine_24> vorp: are you searching for repositories?
[11:42] <felipe_> erUSUL_, thanks
[11:42] <trappist> n0odl3: file /home/n0odl3/share/tf-lib/stdlib.tf
[11:42] <Vorpulus> I'm just copying in the commands these guys are giving me
[11:42] <GMachine_24> vorp: ok
[11:43] <jisao1_> Where can I ask questions about bug reporting?
[11:43] <|meheren|> can u creat a key shortcut for the gnome system monitor?
[11:43] <Vorpulus> I think erUSUL gave me a list of repositories to copy into sources.list
[11:43] <Vorpulus> and I copied it straight in
[11:43] <GMachine_24> jisao: bug reporting for what program?
[11:43] <trappist> Vorpulus: paste any one line out of your sources.list here
[11:44] <jisao1_> grub during ubuntu 5.10 install
[11:44] <Sanne> |meheren|: for a console system monitor, you can try "top"
[11:44] <erUSUL_> Vorpulus, the sources.list is ok. you have problems whith name resolution
[11:44] <n0odl3> trappist: it tells me thre is no such file or directory
[11:44] <Vorpulus> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main
[11:44] <trappist> n0odl3: did you run the ln -s command I gave you earlier?
[11:44] <topyli> |meheren|: you can create random shortcuts with the configuration editor (in the applications -> system tools menu) but it's not exactly trivial
[11:44] <n0odl3> yes
[11:44] <n0odl3> but it told me there was no such directory
[11:44] <n0odl3> or file
[11:44] <Vorpulus> what's the name resolution?
[11:45] <trappist> Vorpulus: I guess go ahead and paste your whole sources.list into pastebin
[11:45] <Ratzilla> can anyone help me? I'm new to Linux and I'm trying to install emacs.  I've tried using the apt-get install command but it doesn't work.
[11:45] <GMachine_24> gang: where can jisao report a bug he/she got during a 5.10 install?
[11:45] <trappist> Ratzilla: "doesn't work" isn't very helpful.
[11:45] <erUSUL_> Vorpulus, for some reason you do not resolve security machines or can't get to them
[11:45] <rellik> is there a way to change the "crontab -e" editor from emacs to vi?  who would want to use emacs anyway? :)
[11:46] <trappist> rellik: export EDITOR='emacs -nw'
[11:46] <GMachine_24> I'm lost.
[11:46] <trappist> err
[11:46] <trappist> rellik: export EDITOR='vim'
[11:46] <rellik> trappist, both or just the vi line?
[11:46] <Vorpulus> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 <--I think that's it
[11:46] <SEJeff> rellik: vi ~/.profile
[11:46] <Ratzilla> trappist: i typed sudo apt-get install emacs and it says E: couldn't find package emacs
[11:46] <SEJeff> rellik: In that, put export EDITOR=vim
[11:46] <topyli> |meheren|: open the configuration editor and take a look at apps/metacity/global_keybindings and apps/metacity/keybinding_commands
[11:47] <asonjay99> how do you set up a web server
[11:47] <erUSUL_> !tell Ratzilla about repos
[11:47] <trappist> Ratzilla: try emacs21
[11:47] <nalioth> Ratzilla: type "apt-cache search emac"
[11:47] <Sanne> Ratzilla: to find out the package name, try "apt-cache search emacs" pr packages.ubuntu.com
[11:47] <hawking> crimsun: do i just have to do ./configure , make and make install as installing alsa or do i need some special parameters?
[11:47] <erUSUL_> Ratzilla, is emacs21
[11:48] <trappist> rellik: the first one would set it to emacs. I misread your question.
[11:48] <Vorpulus> my Internet browser seems to have stopped working now!!
[11:48] <trappist> Vorpulus: sudo dhclient
[11:48] <asonjay99> can some one please help me setup a web server
[11:48] <Pygi> Hello, anyone interested in helping me out with this project? :) www.sourceforge.net/projects/crowly :) Thank you :)
[11:48] <hawking> has anyone installed alsa1.10 here?
[11:48] <nalioth> asonjay99: there are many howtos on the web for that
[11:48] <Ratzilla> trappist: when i try emacs21, it says couldn't find package emacs21.
[11:49] <GMachine_24> Ratz: you can use synaptic package manager
[11:49] <trappist> Ratzilla: apt-cache search emacs
[11:49] <Vorpulus> ahh it's working again
[11:49] <Vorpulus> trappist, shall I type that in?
[11:49] <trappist> Vorpulus: see if sudo apt-get update works now
[11:49] <trappist> Vorpulus: if it's working again, no need
[11:49] <Ratzilla> Sanne: apt-cache search emac says dictionaries-common - Common utilities for spelling dictionary tools fetchmail - SSL enabled POP3, APOP, IMAP mail gatherer/forwarder
[11:49] <Vorpulus> why would the update thing work now? What have I changed?
[11:49] <asonjay99> anyone know any good sites for ubuntu themes
[11:50] <marska> Question... How do I bring up the profile manager in Firefox?
[11:50] <trappist> Vorpulus: if your browser stopped working, it could be because you lost network connectivity, which would also break apt.
[11:50] <martii> hell
[11:50] <Sanne> asonjay99: try the Ubuntu wiki here: http://tinyurl.com/cjbn8
[11:50] <martii> o
[11:50] <erUSUL_> Ratzilla, have you read what ubotu told you about repos?
[11:50] <asonjay99> sanne: thanks
[11:50] <hawking> where can i find nice repositories for breezy?
[11:50] <Ratzilla> erUSUL_: where do i do that?
[11:50] <martii> anyone knows howto find file in apt repos ?
[11:50] <jron> where are modules being called? /etc/modules.conf does not exist.... like in gentoo
[11:50] <trappist> marska: mozilla-firefox -ProfileManager
[11:50] <marska> trappist, Terminal command?
[11:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hawking about sources
[11:50] <Vorpulus> ah, but that thing hasn't been working at all trappist
[11:50] <trappist> marska: apt-file search
[11:51] <trappist> marska: yes
[11:51] <martii> looks like apt-cache search looks only in descriptions
[11:51] <marska> trappist, So what do I type?
[11:51] <erUSUL_> Vorpulus, the net you are attached at is no working correctly that's it
[11:51] <erUSUL_> !tell Ratzilla about repos
[11:51] <trappist> marska: might need to install apt-file and do apt-file update first
[11:51] <Sanne> Ratzilla: erUSUL said the name is emacs21
[11:51] <trappist> marska: apt-file search <filename>
[11:51] <marska> ?
[11:51] <Vorpulus> you mean it's a problem with the servers?
[11:51] <Vorpulus> or something..
[11:51] <Ratzilla> erUSUL_: thanks, ill read is first
[11:52] <nalioth> Vorpulus: they are saying it sounds like a problem with your uni network
[11:52] <Ratzilla> Sanne: emacs21 gives me the same thing
[11:52] <lazyilmaz> hi all, is this the right place to talk a new project for Ubuntu?
[11:52] <walter_> hola
[11:52] <rem_> ratz ... ping www.google.com see if it works ..
[11:52] <walter_> hey necesito ayuda
[11:52] <erUSUL_> Vorpulus, nalioth get it right
[11:52] <Sanne> Ratzilla: and I really recommend packages.ubuntu.com - there I also find the package emacs21
[11:52] <lazyilmaz> it's about a graphical installer
[11:52] <topyli> !es
[11:52] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:52] <marska> My profiles are missing!
[11:52] <erUSUL_> walter_, pidela en #ubuntu-es
[11:52] <GMachine_24> walter: are we supposed to guess the topic?
[11:52] <walter_> tengo un foking eror con gnome
[11:53] <GMachine_24> and the foking error is .....
[11:53] <nalioth> walter_: que idioma?
[11:53] <trappist> walter_: #ubuntu-es
[11:53] <Vorpulus> A problem in that I haven't set up my computer with the network correctly, or that the network itself isn't working properly? I hope my newbiness didn't shine through too strongly just then...
[11:53] <walter_> intente todo lo que sale en ubuntu-ese y nada
[11:53] <jonny> any free music program for linux?
[11:53] <trappist> jonny: zillions.  try xmms.
[11:53] <jonny> ok
[11:54] <GMachine_24> walter hable ingles
[11:54] <marska> Jonny: Linux doesn't play music
[11:54] <fanopnaic> jonny: or rhythmbox or amarok
[11:54] <topyli> jonny: no, they're all pretty expensive and full of drm
[11:54] <MattBergeron> is this the Ubuntu Help?
[11:54] <marska> Someone lied to you
[11:54] <nalioth> MattBergeron: it is
[11:54] <Sanne> Ratzilla: if emacs21 doesn't get installed, I'm afraid somebody more knowledgable about Ubuntu needs to reply, I've no ideas left, sorry.
[11:54] <topyli> MattBergeron: yes
[11:54] <|meheren|> how can i creat a keypad shorcut for gnome system monitor
[11:54] <MattBergeron> i have a problem installing
[11:54] <walter_> les dire mi eror talvez alguien me ayuda
[11:54] <marska> Jonny: If you download any programs through synaptic, they are charged to your credit card
[11:54] <erUSUL_> Vorpulus, the later
[11:54] <GMachine_24> walter: no hablas ingles?
[11:54] <trappist> walter_: /join #ubuntu-es - this is an english channel.
[11:54] <crimsun> walter_: #ubuntu-es, por favor
[11:54] <Ratzilla> Sanne: sudo apt-cache search emacs21 is the command i tried...
[11:54] <MattBergeron> i keep getting stuck at "NIC FIRMWARE-2.6 10-5 386 DI"
[11:55] <GMachine_24> es as in espanol, sr walter
[11:55] <topyli> |meheren|: in gconf-editor, browse to apps->metacity. edit global_keybindings and keybinding_commands
[11:55] <nalioth> walter_: ingles aqui, espaol in #ubuntu-es, por favor
[11:55] <jonny> marska: im playing music right now
[11:55] <colen> hello
[11:55] <_jason> does anyone know where I can modify printing settings for evince?
[11:55] <walter_> cuando quiero entrar con mi usuario normal me dice que mis esiona durado 10 segundos y no me deja aceder
[11:55] <jonny> colen: hi
[11:55] <|meheren|> im there edit them in what way?
[11:55] <GMachine_24> WALTER
[11:55] <GMachine_24> oye
[11:55] <Sanne> Ratzilla: you don't need to use sudo for apt-cache, I believe. Can you do "apt-get install emacs21" ?
[11:55] <jonny> colen: what do you need?
[11:55] <nalioth> walter_: vaya de la #ubuntu-es, por favor
[11:56] <colen> I was on here a few days back and someone had given me a link to installing codecs?  I have since lost the link but need it again
[11:56] <JDahl> _jason, in the cups printer manager. You change if for all applications not just evince
[11:56] <MattBergeron> what shuld i do
[11:56] <JDahl> s/if/it
[11:56] <Sanne> Ratzilla: "sudo apt-get install emacs21" of course, sorry
[11:56] <GMachine_24> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats colen?
[11:56] <topyli> |meheren|: well, you know windows. it's a bit like regedit.exe (except we dont have a registry, thank heavens)
[11:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell colen about w32codecs
[11:57] <hawking> crimsun: are you there?
[11:57] <erUSUL_> walter_, te han icho por activa y por pasiva que fueras a #ubuntu-es. Esto es un canal en ingls
[11:57] <erUSUL_> dicho
[11:57] <crimsun> hawking: yes
[11:57] <colen> yes, thank you all for your help
[11:57] <walter_> ya me cambie
[11:57] <_jason> JDahl:  my problem is that evince prints pdf's too lightly.  If I print from a program like OpenOffice it prints nice and dark (ie easy to read).  Any idea what I could do?
[11:57] <|meheren|> yes thank heavens for that
[11:57] <GMachine_24> adios walter
[11:57] <walter_> bye
[11:57] <trappist> will someone kick walter_'s ass into #ubuntu-es
[11:57] <Ratzilla> Sanne: I get this msg E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:57] <MattBergeron> My problem is during install
[11:57] <|meheren|> so just do the same thing i would do in regedit? sorta
[11:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ratzilla about apt-get
[11:57] <Sanne> Ratzilla: "sudo apt-get install emacs21" of course, sorry
[11:57] <hawking> crimsun : I have done the install disabling hotplug so computer couldn't detect ethernet and it couldn't download stuff from internet... how can i download the things that the installation normally would?
[11:58] <mustard5> Ratzilla, close synaptic
[11:58] <crimsun> hawking: restart hotplug after
[11:58] <JDahl> _jason, isnt it a problem with the particular pdf file you're printing? Both evince, openoffice and every other programs just translate their output to PS and prints it via CUPS
[11:58] <Ratzilla> Sanne: E: Couldn't find package emacs21
[11:58] <erUSUL_> hawking, run synaptic an reload and mark updates
[11:58] <hawking> oh ok that's easy :) thx
[11:58] <MattBergeron> all it does is stop at the 34% then it goes to a black screen
[11:58] <MattBergeron> and then trys to install again
[11:58] <MattBergeron> with no help
[11:58] <Sanne> Ratzilla: ok, then I'm lost also, sorry. apt should find the package. Anyone has any ideas?
[11:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell MattBergeron about verify
[11:58] <_jason> JDahl:  doesn't seem to be.  I have tried several, but admittedly they have all been generated by pdflatex.  I will download a pdf and see.
[11:58] <erUSUL_> Ratzilla, your repos are set correctly and you reloaded the package list?
[11:58] <GMachine_24> none, sanne.
[11:59] <topyli> |meheren|: well, in the global_keybindings part you put something like ctrl-alt-del (just an idea :) for command_1 or whatever it is. then in keybinding commands you put gnome-system-monitor as kommand_1
[11:59] <nalioth> MattBergeron: read your msg from ubotu
[11:59] <mustard5> Ratzilla, enable extra repositores is the answer I would think
[11:59] <nalioth> mustard5: that is not his problem
[11:59] <JDahl> _jason, e.g., what happens if you export an openoffice file as pdf and then prints that with evince?
[11:59] <mustard5> nalioth, k
[11:59] <|meheren|> oh ok thx
[11:59] <zxsykco> Yay! I'm stupid!