[12:05] LaserJock: I was.. :) === ajmitch was naughty & bad [12:06] ajmitch: I was just wondering if you were too busy, I thought I might volunteer to help [12:07] I was busy, getting to UBZ & all [12:08] that is what I thought === scotth [n=scotth@157.182.194.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@66.103.220.192] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jimbob [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === magnon_ [n=co@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mez_ [n=Mez@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub_ [n=hub@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ [n=ogra@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === keyes [n=keyes@lns-bzn-25-82-251-204-30.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:33] hello [12:33] can I get somebody's opinion on a licences? [12:33] <\sh> LaserJock: yeah...elmos :) [12:33] Is Opera included in Multiverse? [12:34] \sh: lol, but could you look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4084 real quick? === ThomSh_ [n=thom@shutt.demon.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] LaserJock: looks like plain GPL [12:35] <\sh> LaserJock: oh ok....elmo is just around here...I'll ask him straight away.... [12:35] <\sh> hub_: na its not [12:35] LaserJock: I mean LGPL [12:35] linking against a GPL library [12:36] well, I have no licensing experience. Is that OK? I wasn't quite sure what they were saying [12:36] <\sh> LaserJock: ok...approved...it just repeats the gpl [12:36] <\sh> LaserJock: elmo had a look and I trust him [12:37] ok, good [12:37] LaserJock: the thing is that it warns about the fact that it links against GPL which prevent writing proprietary module [12:38] <\sh> hub_: we need to sign keys [12:38] ok, so as long as we did everything GPL/LGPL we would be ok? [12:38] \sh: ok. we are you? [12:38] were [12:38] <\sh> hub_: in the bar room...next to the meeting room [12:38] qh ok [12:40] \sh: there's a bar? [12:40] down here ? === segfault [i=carlos@prognus.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:42] <\sh> i need some electricity for this baby here.... [12:42] Mez: yep [12:42] <\sh> only one hour left [12:42] hmm [12:42] I may have to go there [12:42] mmm beer [12:42] lol [12:43] I think I'd get mugged if I walked into this room with a beer === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o \sh] by ChanServ === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:\sh] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | REVU up again: http://revu.tauware.de | somebody please help writing up the MOTU report: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUReportDraft | UBZ MOTU Meeting Tomorrow - Time will be released this evening (Montreal Time) === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o \sh] by \sh === koke [n=koke@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:00] So what did I miss? [01:01] Kyral: I sent an email to the FlowDesigner mailing list telling them about our intentions and I got the licence OK'd [01:01] Oh I knew the LGPL was okay [01:02] Kyral: I just wanted to be sure of the second paragraph of it since I don't have any licensing experience ;-) [01:02] the LGPL comes directly from GNU [01:02] its legit ;P [01:03] well, I knew that LGPL was OK but I wasn't sure about the linking to FFTW === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] isn;t FFTW also GPL/LGPL? [01:03] FFTW? [01:04] fast-fourier transform? [01:04] Kyral: yes GPL [01:04] cevizoglu: yeah [01:04] Yah so its all good [01:04] GPL linking to GPL is always good === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:05] or any of the official GNU licenses [01:06] Any word from the devs yet? [01:08] It looks like an easy package job, if the AutoConf is standard [01:09] Kyral: no word from the devs, it might be a little while [01:09] no prob [01:09] no hurry [01:09] oh \sh, can I make a request about the meeting tomorrow? [01:10] I have something going on tomorrow between noon and like 2 PM EST(Montreal Time), so if you could not hold the meeting during that time it would be great :D === Kyral sees the Ubuntu logo in the sky above his dorm and knows he is being summoned [01:13] Off to serve as a New User Mentor :P [01:14] good luck ;-) === bradb_ [n=bradb@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@d-ip-129-15-213-134.wireless.ou.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === perenshaw [n=perensha@82-38-249-144.cable.ubr04.brad.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === perenshaw [n=perensha@82-38-249-144.cable.ubr04.brad.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.192] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cevizoglu sees a giant broken netboot image in the sky and runs === blablablabla [n=maniac@i3ED6E5CB.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty_laptop [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:38] hi everyone [02:38] hi all [02:38] hi bmonty_laptop [02:39] is everyone out partying at UBZ? [02:39] probably :) [02:40] hi bmonty_laptop === thierry_ [n=thierry@modemcable192.222-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:41] hey LaserJock [02:41] how's it going bmonty_laptop ? [02:41] how did the research propsal presentation go [02:41] everything is good, I think ;-) [02:42] nice [02:42] I will find out in Dec. if I get the fellowship [02:42] I'm watching this report on NBC about guys picking up boys over instant messenger....pretty sick [02:42] gaah [02:43] ugggh [02:43] bbl, I gotta get home [02:43] haha, they just told the guys that the are on TV [02:43] bye LaserJock :D [02:44] cya LaserJock [02:44] cya [02:46] anyone know what the launchpad-dependencies package is? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mloskot [n=mloskot@chello084010109026.chello.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:53] hi all [02:53] Could someone explain me debian -> ubuntu packages adoption procedure? [02:54] Package X has only maintainer for Debian, then whos is responsible for adopting/testing it under Ubuntu, etc. [02:54] mloskot: some packages from Debian main get synced in Ubuntu universe [02:54] zakame: automatically? [02:55] mloskot: not really... see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources === mloskot is checking [02:57] zakame: I understand it now. [02:57] mloskot: there are also debian packages in ubuntu that are maintained by universe maintainers and MOTUs [02:58] sure [02:58] brb [02:59] Funny, I'm interested in moving Degian-GIS to Ubuntu, because there is no MOTU Team working on it (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTeams) [02:59] but as I see, there has been started Ubuntu GIS sub-project https://wiki.ubuntu.com//UbuntuGIS [03:00] Why this team is not listed in MOTU Teams list? === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] mloskot: probably because they didn't add themselves to that list [03:05] is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto still valid or we need to set it for dapper? [03:05] bmonty_laptop: yes, but that's the reason I couldn't find them ;-) [03:07] thierry_: it has instructions for dapper near the bottom [03:07] k [03:07] basically build a breezy pbuilder, and then convert it to dapper [03:08] k but will it break my system, I mean will it make the whole system use dev packages? [03:08] mloskot: if you know how to work with packages, you could ask for a REVU account and put your packages there to be added to universe [03:09] thierry_: no, the pbuilder runs in a chroot, it won't touch the system [03:09] cool thanks [03:09] bmonty_laptop: I've sent my MOTU requrest to Oliver Grawert. [03:09] bmonty_laptop: because I just started to work on my own packages [03:09] you don't need to be an MOTU to upload to REVU (I'm not an MOTU) [03:09] and I'd like tp push them to Univ [03:10] bmonty_laptop: hm, I just read the Wiki and tried to follow official way of participation [03:10] bmonty_laptop: but that's not a problem, sure [03:10] bmonty_laptop: Yes, I have my own first small package, so first steps are behind me, then I could move on. [03:11] bmonty_laptop: OK, I'll learn REVU and push there my package(s). [03:11] mloskot: that would probably be the best way to get your package reviewed [03:11] ok [03:11] and hang out in this channel and help out :) [03:12] yes, that's what I'd like to do after hours. [03:13] BTW, I asked on #ubuntu but no answer, is there any Request Feature tool somewhere where I could put my request? [03:13] cool [03:13] mloskot: i'm sorry...request for what? [03:13] to move your GIS package to universe? [03:14] where I could submit new feature request, not about GIS, but i.e. small feature for GNOME menu ;-) [03:14] you should file a bug in lauchpad against the package with the feature you want [03:15] I see, thanks [03:16] (I mean Feature Request as something like Feature Request tool on SourceForge.net Tracker for hosted projects) [03:16] ok, thanks, see you later [03:16] launchpad would be the best place [03:17] cya mloskot [03:17] thanks === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@84.254.11.113] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] I think there's an error in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto at dapper change... /etc/pbuilder/apt.config/ doesn't point to a directory, not a file [03:32] thierry_: there are a couple of files to change === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] bmonty_laptop : even the .gpg files? [03:32] thierry_: specifically the pbuilderrc and sources.list [03:33] thierry_: I changed breezy to dapper in pbuilderrc and sources.list and the chroot has dapper packages in it [03:33] k [03:33] thanks [03:35] bmonty_laptop : when I do sudo pbuilder update --override-config I get a error that no distribution is specified [03:36] could be an error and that we need to add --distribution dapper ? [03:39] thierry_: I don't think so, did you specify the distribution as dapper in pbuilderrc? [03:40] yes === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:41] thierry_: all I can say is follow all the instructions on the wiki [03:41] I could also email you my config files if you want [03:42] k... but I really wonder, because once I specified --distribution dapper everything worked fine === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] i don't think I had to do that, but if it works, great! :) [03:43] k [03:44] mmm I a MOTU wanabe who wonder where to go after pbuilder configuration... [03:44] build some packages! [03:45] in the REVU? [03:46] I know this is a common question but : Where is the easiest place to start? [03:46] no REVU packages are already built [03:46] do you know how packages work? [03:47] i.e. can you build a package from scratch? [03:47] bmonty_laptop : well not yet :) === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-111-248-187.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:47] thierry_: first thing is to learn how packages work [03:48] read the Debian new maintainers guide [03:48] then go in the universe candidates and start trying to make a package? === mloskot [n=mloskot@chello084010109026.chello.pl] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [03:48] thierry_: yes, or you could work on bugs in Malone [03:48] once UBZ is done you could help with implementing some of the specs they come up with [03:49] mmm what is UBZ and what is exactly a spec (alredy heard of it but never understood what was one) [03:49] UBZ is the ubuntu developer conference going on in Montreal [03:50] Ubuntu Below Zero [03:50] I'm not sure if I want to take a stab at defining what a specification is, but basically it is a document that describes the features a piece of software is supposed to have [03:51] k... === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [03:55] well a spec is more of a guide for developers and community people on what to work on for a target release [03:56] jsgotangco: probably a better definition than I could give :) [03:56] basically during a devel conference like ubz, participants make tons of specs and have people assign them or have the other specs get adopted by the community to develop [03:56] jsgotangco: I'm thinking more along the lines of how it is defined in a software engineering text [03:57] ahhh [03:58] sure in some LP BOFs that happens [03:58] jsgotangco: still I think we are thinking the same thing [03:58] yes [03:58] but UBZ also has community stuff so theres no software development involved [04:00] yeah right, I bet those guys can't stop themselves from writing some code :) === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:07] at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot do I need to change all breezy for dapper? [04:07] if you want a dapper pbuilder [04:08] or chroot rather [04:08] well I want to build new packages, so this should for dapper right? [04:08] yep [04:08] k thanks [04:09] I get E: No such script: dapper [04:09] when I do sudo debootstrap [--variant=buildd] [--arch i386] breezy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ [04:12] sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 dapper /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ [04:12] thierry:you shall do like that [04:14] I get E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/dapper [04:18] have configure your pbuilderrc correctly [04:18] well yes [04:18] I changed DISTRIBUTION= to dapper [04:19] You need help for a Dapper PBuilder? [04:19] you needn't do this step ,just update [04:19] there is help on wiki [04:19] thierry_: are you makeing a chroot or a pbuilder? [04:20] thierry_: i think you need to find the debootstrap .deb for dapper at packages.ubuntu.com and install that first [04:21] thierry_: just create a pbuilder for breezy and then change pbulderc and pbuilder apt.source to point to dapper and run the updaet command that is in the bottom f the wiki page [04:21] i have just done this [04:23] gotta go to bed now === tseng [n=brandon@pcp01687545pcs.wchstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:27] LaserJock : well pbuilder isn't suppose to be made inside the chroot after creating it [04:28] thierry_: pbuilder makes a chroot [04:28] that is what "pbuilder create" does [04:29] ho [04:35] bmonty_laptop: what was your goal with using ldap and krb "together" [04:35] i only use one or the other [04:35] tseng: single sign on with openafs [04:36] oh.. afs [04:36] ldap has user information, krb has passwords and a logon gets you a ticket [04:36] yes i use krb5 for auth on all my systems [04:36] ldap for the corporate user system for one app [04:37] never both for one auth [04:37] tseng: I got ldap and kerberos working...turns out there was a problem with reverse lookups on my DNS [04:37] hm oh [04:37] good :) [04:38] now I'm working on openafs....its confusing [04:38] my goal is to be able to have a single sign on with my home directory in afs so it is the same on all my machines [04:39] and when I travel with my laptop I don't need network access to get to my files [04:40] that would be awesome === Kyral [n=Linux@hamlin-164-1697.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:41] tseng: it is taking a little longer to implement than I woud like :) [04:51] anyone know how to get an X program in a pbuilder chroot to be able to access the X display? === bhuvan [n=ubuntu@59.92.33.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o bhuvan] by ChanServ === lamont [n=lamont@66.103.220.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:19] bmonty_laptop: why do you want to do that? [05:20] LaserJock: to test an X app from inside the dapper pbuilder :) [05:20] why not a dapper chroot? [05:21] thats what the pbuilder is [05:22] well, but isn't it kinda different. It is a chroot that is recreated everytime you call pbuilder? [05:22] LaserJock: yeah it makes a new chroot everytime you start it [05:23] but if you just have a regular chroot you can do a lot more testing, etc [05:24] where are the instructions to make a regular chroot? [05:24] I guess I would just make the .debs and install them in a chroot [05:24] wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot [05:25] i'll check that out thanks [05:26] I made a dapper chroot that has my /home bind mounted (its in the wiki) so I can have access to my home directory within the chroot [05:32] LaserJock: do you have to do the same like pbuilder, make a breezy chroot and then change it to dapper? [05:33] umm, I think if you install the dapper debootstrap you can go straight to dapper, otherwise you need to do breezy and dist-upgrade [05:33] ahh [05:34] I created a dapper chroot and pbuilder today without having to update [05:36] revu added to dput.cf default. I'm a genius [05:37] oops :) === LaserJock_ [n=Jordan@adsl-69-111-248-187.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:51] LaserJock_: did you have to do anything special to run an X app in the debootstrap? [05:52] no, I just logged in dchroot -d and ran whatever. today I ran the new emacs and it work seemlessly [05:53] wouldnt the X sockets need to be passed in ? [05:53] heck if I know, I just fired up emacs and it came up [05:54] Lathiat: I think that is the problem, it needs the .Xauthority cookie, right? [05:55] well, I have my home mounted in the chroot and I start it with chroot -d so I think that is all you need, right? [05:55] that would give you .Xauthority, I think ;-) [05:58] LaserJock: yeah, I initially didn't want my home in the chroot....I don't think I have a choice :) [06:03] could you just copy your .Xauthority over to your chroot? [06:03] LaserJock: nah, I took the easy way and just mounted my home into the chroot [06:04] I wanted to test the fix I made...not mess with chroots :) === Mirno [n=mirspcm@office.spcmnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:04] yeah, but chroots are better than dual booting or something like that [06:04] LaserJock: definately [06:05] bmonty_laptop: BTW, I don't know if I told you already, or if you care, but I made a MOTUScience team the other day [06:05] if there is a build depend on a perl lib, do you have to add that to the install depends or does $shlibs find it? [06:06] LaserJock: cool, not sure if I would be much help there [06:06] I just thought I should throw it out there, no pressure though ;-) === blueyed_ [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tifa [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === derekS [n=derekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:24] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ghemical/+bug/3543 <---should this be reassigned to the MOTUScience team? [06:25] Does anyone in MOTUScience use ghemical? [06:25] Kyral: I'm not sure if we want to reassign just yet. I am working with the ghemical developers on that bug though [06:25] minghua: I do === derekS [n=derekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:26] Maybe we should put up a "bugs the team may be interested in" wiki page instead of assigning? [06:27] or better, have a team address to subscribe the bug [06:27] azeem, who is sometimes here is the debian maintainer for ghemical. Apparently they are going to release a new version next week that might fix that bug [06:27] minghua: yeah, I'm not sure how to do that yet [06:27] launchpad is quite mysterious to me still [06:28] i heard from bradb they are going to implement 'QA contacts' [06:28] that you can assign to packages [06:28] so we can use that to track things like OTU [06:28] and then actually assign bugs to people [06:28] instead of MOTU [06:28] I am starting to get a feel that universe should be somehow labeled as one "QAed part" and one "Nobody really knows part" :-) [06:30] Lathiat: is that going to be reflected in the package description, or is it just a launchpad thing? [06:31] well, it looks like we might be able to use "subscribe someone else" and but motuscience in. [06:31] s/but/put/ [06:31] unfortunately subscriptiond oesnt do much until somethign happens to the bug [06:31] and theres no subscription list [06:31] they need to send someone mail when you subscribe someone else to something [06:31] Lathiat: that's true [06:32] and really a +subscribedbugs woudlnt go astray either === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:34] LJ did you hear from the devs yet? [06:35] for FlowDesigner? [06:35] ja [06:36] no, I just emailed their mailing list. I might try the devs directly if I don't hear anything soon. I don't know if it matters much. I think if we get a package built we can tell them after the fact ;-) [06:36] Okay [06:37] Oh hwo the hell do I get "MOTUScience" to be a link in my Wiki [06:37] do you have "[[FullSearch()] ] " in the code? [06:38] ..no [06:38] That puts links to any wiki page with your name on it [06:38] Okaaay [06:38] so just put that in there? [06:39] ---- [06:39] Related pages: [06:39] [[FullSearch()] ] [06:39] ^^ that is what I have [06:40] Yah but how do I get "MOTUScience" to be a link to the MotuScience page without that (So its under my Teams) [06:41] ohhh, I see what you mean now. use ["MOTUScience"] [06:41] it doesn't recognize it as a wiki page [06:49] Hey LJ, remind me to talk to Corey about helping with the Installation Guide [06:51] Kyral: why do I have to be your daytimer? ;-) [06:51] Kyral: go install a calendar program :-) [07:07] lol sorry [07:07] I'm just very absent minded sometimes [07:10] Kyral: I am too, that is why it isn't good to ask me to help you remeber something ;-) [07:11] night LaserJock [07:12] night MOTUs [07:12] Okay I have just hit lazy central [07:13] I made an alias to update all 4 of my PBuilders at once [07:14] lol [07:15] And I can easily adapt it to clean all 4 at once [07:16] How do I get on the DocTeam now... === rob^ looks in [07:18] Kyral: talk to rob^ [07:18] Kyral: but what about FlowDesigner? :) === StrikeForce [n=marc@203-59-15-65.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:19] I was actually about to hit it with dh_make ;P [07:19] I was just saying I could help with the Install Guide ;P [07:20] yeah, actually I might be working on a packaging guide for the doc team. You might be interested in some of that too [07:21] Yah I would :D [07:21] LJ I have a feeling that we will both wind up with our MOTU Licenses around the same time :D [07:21] that would be great === rob^ is intrested in the outcome of the packaging guide [07:22] Kyral: oh, I don't know. I actually have never made a package from scratch before, just updated existing ones. [07:22] what exists currently as a packaging guide? [07:22] The Debian New Maintainers Guide [07:22] ah, yeah I've read that one [07:23] well, we have PbuilderHowto, PackagingTips, MOTUWannabeTips and maybe one or two others [07:23] but I will be working on getting those put in better shape [07:24] I have to append the PBuilderHOWTO on how to make multiple ones [07:24] Leave it to me ;D [07:24] Kyral: Yeah, I was going to ask you to do that. I think it is important for MOTUs to be able to do [07:24] FlowDesigner hit with DH [07:25] Make [07:25] I'm lucky this time, it uses a proper AutoConf, so DH_Make did most of the work :D === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:25] yeah, that is nice [07:25] I also want to somehow bring my "Terminal for Beginners" Guide from the Forums into the Wiki [07:26] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885 [07:27] Kyral, there is something like that being worked on in the wiki that you could maybe work on [07:27] bring all the best bits over etc.. [07:27] Who is working on it [07:27] I forget the name though, something like "command line" something [07:27] *thinks he should start hanging out in the docteam channel* [07:28] Kyral: yeah, I started that today too :) [07:28] this is it I think: [07:28] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommandlineHowto [07:28] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommandlineHowto [07:28] heh [07:29] I'll send the maintainer a msg through the wiki [07:29] np [07:29] Wait can I? [07:30] see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommandlineHowto?action=info for a list of people who are working on it [07:30] they might have an email address, either that or just post it to the docteam mailing list [07:30] yah, but tomorrow [07:31] its gettin' late ;P [07:31] heh [07:31] whats the DocTeam channel? [07:31] #ubuntu-doc [07:31] With that I am sleeping [07:31] cya Ubunteros! [07:31] bye [07:31] cya Kyral [07:32] (Why the hell did Mark change it from Ubuntite to Ubuntero?) [07:33] I dunno, they both sound odd [07:34] cool, Mark uses Kubuntu [07:35] LJ regardless if they(FlowDevelop) respond I'll have a debpack ready tomorrow [07:35] Kyral: ok, no rush, but it would be nice for us to put out something [07:36] Like I said its an easy package b/c it uses AutoConf === minghua [n=minghua@adsl-69-153-128-173.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:49] afternoon all! [07:50] evening [07:53] what do you think of this: split lighttpd source as lighttpd{,ssl} for the server and lighttpd-common for config and modules, or build just a single lighttpd package plus liblighttpd-mod-* for individual modules? === bhuvan [n=ubuntu@59.92.33.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:56] wb bhuvan [07:57] ? [07:57] zakame: the former is preferable imo [07:59] crimsun: I tend to agree, I think this will also allow a couple of lighttpd servers running at the same host, assuming there's no conflict === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.192] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:14] hello [08:14] hi pef [08:22] anyone here (MOTU) [08:23] yes [08:24] what's up? [08:24] anyone who's actually a MOT U? [08:25] (if you are - sorry) [08:26] yes [08:26] what's up? [08:26] crimsun - private === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:27] wb zyga [08:28] zakame: morning :-) === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.192] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:35] hmm I notice a some stuff in UniverseCandidates are already in Universe, among other cruft... [08:38] really, a lot of stuff? [08:38] or just a few [08:39] sorry, a few actually :) [08:39] on others there are debian pkgs already available [08:39] np, I woudn''t be suprised if it was a lot [08:45] hmm, is it just me, or is mysql.sf.net down? [08:46] the running joke is "when is foo.sf.net _not_ down?" ;-) [08:47] buwahahaha [08:50] zakame: down for me too [08:51] pef: hmm, I was browsing some of the UC sites, picking which one to (hopefully) work on :) [09:16] the MOTU meeting time hasn't been decided yet? === minghua hopes it won't be early morning [09:17] it's good when you are only one timezone away from Montreal though :-) [09:17] minghua: hehe [09:18] minghua, I doubt it will \sh is going to have a hell of a hangover in the morning [09:18] he either drank a lot or cant hold his drink [09:19] haha [09:20] Mez: then I can sleep well :-) [09:33] Mez: isn't he german? I'm guessing option 2 [09:34] y option 2 ? [09:35] germans are born to drink beer [09:35] it's their sole purpose in life [09:35] so you reckon he cant hold his drink ? [09:35] err [09:35] option 1 [09:35] I'm too tired. [09:36] running on like 4 hrs sleep in the last 48 hrs [09:37] well by the looks of it [09:37] he had a lot less than me [09:37] (I had 3 beers - 7 vodka cokes and a shooter of creme de menth and bailets [09:38] but then I dont know what he drinak all night [09:39] so you had a fairly normal night is what you're saying :p [09:39] *shrugs* [09:39] anyways night [09:39]