[12:00] <zxsykco> So, um, yeah..
[12:00] <MattBergeron> My cd is the offcial CD
[12:00] <MattBergeron> sent in mail
[12:00] <MattBergeron> Version 5.04
[12:00] <nalioth> MattBergeron: you should still verify it, some of them didnt get pressed properly
[12:00] <jisao1_> Did Ubuntu people think of providing a bug report tool for human beings?  I need a Ph.D. in form reading to understand this bugzilla.
[12:01] <zxsykco> I have two graphics cards installed (one mobo and one pci) and I'd like to use the pci instead of the mobo card. Any ideas/suggestions?
[12:01] <nalioth> zxsykco: disable the mobo card in the bios
[12:01] <zxsykco> ^_^
[12:01] <ice> hello. i am installing ubuntu but error keeps coming. [  59.533893]  kernel panic -not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. what shall i do? Anyone?
[12:01] <jisao1_> Anyway, thanks for your time and help people. It was nice.
[12:01] <jonny> is there a program like itunes for kinux but you get the songs for free/
[12:01] <zxsykco> Thankee, nalioth!
[12:01] <_jason> JDahl:  yep, still printing lighter than usual when I printed the pdf I genereated in office
[12:01] <axel> hello people
[12:01] <jonny> linux*
[12:02] <_jason> JDahl:  any other ideas?
[12:02] <jron> where are modules being called? /etc/modules.conf does not exist.... like in gentoo i need to pass some options to a module but putting it in /etc/modules doesn't seem to be doing anything =(
[12:02] <hawking> crimsun: I was installing alsa-utils and it gave this error : configure: error: this packages requires a curses library
[12:02] <hawking>  ... how can i get the curses library?
[12:02] <|meheren|> what should i type for the windows logo?
[12:02] <axel> Does anyone use the Time Tracker utility ? I can't find my gtimelog.txt file ?
[12:02] <nalioth> hawking: use synaptic and search for what you want
[12:02] <erUSUL_> jron, ls /etc/modules*
[12:02] <|meheren|> in configuration editor
[12:02] <|meheren|> like shift is<Shift>
[12:02] <MattBergeron> this will resolve the NIC FIRMWARE Issue?
[12:03] <hawking> nalioth: well I searched apt-cache search curses and there were too many results
[12:03] <|meheren|> what would the windows logo be?
[12:03] <nalioth> hawking: search for "libcurses"
[12:03] <crimsun> hawking: install libncurses5
[12:03] <topyli> |meheren|: open a terminal and run the "xev" command. hit all your keys and xev will tell you what linux thinks they are called :)
[12:03] <erUSUL_> hawking, libncurses5-dev
[12:03] <|meheren|> ok thx
[12:03] <hawking> libncurses5 or libncurses5-dev?
[12:03] <erUSUL_> hawking, both
[12:04] <hawking> ok
[12:04] <JDahl> _jason,  You could install acroread and try that instead of evince, but other than that I dont have any good ideas
[12:04] <crimsun> hawking: are you trying to run it or compile it?
[12:04] <erUSUL_> hawking, it won't hurt
[12:04] <jron> erUSUL_, I added "options bttv tuner=2 card=64 automute=0" to the modules file, can you think of any reason this isn't working.... tuner=2 sets it to NTSC instead of pal....
[12:04] <axel> Does anyone use the Time Tracker utility ? I can't find my gtimelog.txt file ?
[12:04] <hawking> compiling
[12:04] <_jason> JDahl:  alright, thanks for listening
[12:04] <ice> hello. i am installing ubuntu but error keeps coming. [  59.533893]  kernel panic -not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. what shall i do? Anyone?
[12:04] <jonny> is there a program like itunes for linux but you get the songs for free/
[12:04] <erUSUL_> jron, no sorry
[12:04] <crimsun> hawking: why? You can use alsa-utils from the repo
[12:04] <hawking> crimsun: is that alsa-utils 1.10?
[12:04] <erUSUL_> ice, have you completed the instalation rocess?
[12:04] <crimsun> hawking: it only needs >=1.0.9a
[12:05] <crimsun> hawking: which Breezy has
[12:05] <hawking> crimsun : hmm
[12:05] <hawking> crimsun thx
[12:05] <topyli> |meheren|: the windows keys are normally called Super_L and Super_R though
[12:05] <|meheren|> ok thx
[12:05] <erUSUL_> crimsun, hawking has problems with hald udev and his laptop solvable upgrading the kernel or alsa
[12:05] <jron> how is bttv module loading up without it being in the modules file?
[12:05] <hawking> yeah exactly
[12:06] <nuck> hi how do i install all the function man pages esp man pages for c/c++ functions.  the console command man pages are availble but say man select isnt? thanks
[12:06] <jron> what loads modules is what i am asking i guess ;P
[12:06] <Nihil85> hallo everybody
[12:06] <HiddenWolf> jron, hotplug/udev/kernel detect your card and load it for you
[12:06] <crimsun> erUSUL_: his ALSA driver needs to be updated, _not_ the userspace utilities to control volumes.
[12:06] <Nihil85> hello erUSUL_!
[12:06] <ice> erUSUL_ yes but pc froze up so i reset. then i try reinstalling but it wont work
[12:06] <crimsun> alsa-driver != alsa-utils
[12:06] <erUSUL_> Nihil85, hello ;)
[12:06] <hawking> crimsun: I compiled alsa-drivers how can i make sure if it was compiled without problems?
[12:06] <Jerr> /etc/init.d/mysqld start is how to start mysqld, right?
[12:07] <HiddenWolf> Jerr, yes, but with sudo. :)
[12:07] <crimsun> hawking: once they're loaded, cat /proc/asound/version
[12:07] <Nihil85> hello iiiears
[12:07] <erUSUL_> crimsun, fair enough
[12:07] <|meheren|> arrgg in configuration editor where is global keybindings under?
[12:07] <crimsun> hawking: make sure it's 1.0.10rc2
[12:07] <funkyHat_> i'm considering getting a Pocket PC, but I'm concerned about compatiblilty/interoperability with my desktop (i don't want to reboot to windows just to sync), what's communication like between linux and Windows for Pocked PC? does anyone know? or is there an up to date option for installing linux on a Pocket PC?
[12:07] <Jerr> oh thats what was wrong before, thanks :)
[12:07] <The_Vox> funkyHat: synce works well
[12:07] <jron> do any of those module loading apps have a config file where i can view the modules they are each loading?
[12:07] <hawking> crimsun: it says no such file
[12:07] <erUSUL_> ice, boot again with the cd and install again
[12:07] <|meheren|> apps/what/global keybindings?
[12:08] <HiddenWolf> |meheren|, why not use the system > keyboard utility?
[12:08] <hawking> crimsun: I have just compiled it .. do i have to run it ?
[12:08] <MattBergeron> Im having a problem installing ubuntu it stops scanning at with this message "NIC FIRMWARE-2.6 10-5 386DI
[12:08] <crimsun> hawking: have you loaded the driver yet?
[12:08] <hawking> crimsun: no how can i load it?
[12:08] <crimsun> hawking: have you installed the driver yet?
[12:08] <ice> erUSUL_: i did several times but it wont work. i formatted using the disk utilities but even winxp intallation wont proceed.
[12:09] <hawking> crimsun: well I downloaded the driver package and did ./configure , make  and sudo make install
[12:09] <erUSUL_> ice, ??. Any error messages?
[12:09] <crimsun> hawking: ok, so now modprobe snd-hda-intel
[12:09] <ice> [  59.533893]  kernel panic -not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel.
[12:10] <luke> how can I configure Sound Juicer to rip in MP3 format?
[12:10] <holycow> jesus f christ
[12:10] <hawking> crimsun : new audio playback device detected :)
[12:10] <wotnarg> if you have 95% of a zip archive, can it be unzipped, or does it corrupt the whole thing?
[12:10] <erUSUL_> ice, that error is booting with the install cd?
[12:10] <ice> erUSUL_: yes
[12:10] <hawking> crimsun: and proc/asound/version is 1.0.10 :)
[12:10] <hawking> seems everything worked fine
[12:10] <holycow> i just tried to copy a licenced cd, but the cd was actually fabbed with its session open
[12:10] <topyli> |meheren|: apps/metacity
[12:10] <randy> Hello all.
[12:10] <holycow> so gnome backer wrote a copy of the cd to the original cd it self!
[12:10] <PJeremy> would someone happen to know how to disable konqueror from popping up when a cd is inserted?
[12:11] <|meheren|> thx
[12:11] <holycow> weeeird
[12:11] <mc|amb> is that posible/
[12:11] <mc|amb> ?
[12:11] <erUSUL_> ice, it is weird if it booted the first time it should boot now
[12:11] <HiddenWolf> PJeremy, #kubuntu
[12:11] <luke> can I convert OGG to MP3 easily?
[12:11] <nalioth> HiddenWolf: heh, PJeremy just came from #kubuntu
[12:12] <hawking> crimsun : wow even my microphone started to work:) thank you so much
[12:12] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone know the command to check your IP address?
[12:12] <randy> When I'm in X and I go out to another terminal (alt-F2) and go back into X (alt-F7) my X session is killed.  I go back to gdm login?    Is this a bug or a setting I can change.
[12:12] <axel> Does anyone use the Time Tracker utility ? I can't find my gtimelog.txt file ?
[12:12] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: ifconfig
[12:12] <erUSUL_> HaroldJohnson, ifconfig -a
[12:12] <ice> [  59.533783]  EXT2:fs error (device ram0) ext2_check_page: bad entry in directory #2: rec_len is smaller than minimal - offset=0, inode=0, rec_len=0, name_len=0
[12:12] <randy> I run Breezy Final.
[12:12] <HaroldJohnson> erUSUL_, Thankis
[12:12] <Sanne> luke: beware: ogg and mp3 have different compression algorythms, so you would loose quality by that.
[12:12] <FarrisG> can anyone tell me why, on my Opteron running an and64 kernel, my 64bit binaries cannot address more than 3.2G of ram per process?
[12:12] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: are you back causing more trouble?
[12:12] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Thank you
[12:12] <crimsun> hawking: np.
[12:12] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Yes, just shaking it all up
[12:13] <ice> Warning: unable to open an initial console
[12:13] <FarrisG> and64/amd64
[12:13] <MattBergeron> ok i guess im not gona install ubuntu
[12:13] <cianci> hi, everytime i startup Ubuntu i have to re-enter the security code, dns server, and i have to do sudo modprobe ndiswrapper to start my wireless adapter (wlan0), how can i make this automatic?
[12:13] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, I've been going the GUI-less route, and it's working out well.  Learning to master vim!
[12:13] <ice> anyone?
[12:13] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Still loving ubuntu, and debian in general.
[12:13] <calamari> cianci: you can put ndiswrapper in /etc/modules
[12:13] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: rock on, dude
[12:13] <hawking> crimsun: right now I have no audio file in my disk how can i test quickly if my speakers work or not?
[12:14] <axel> Does anyone use the Time Tracker utility ? I can't find my gtimelog.txt file ?
[12:14] <erUSUL_> ice, is complining about the partition on the hard disc. are you sure it is booting from the instalation cd
[12:14] <erUSUL_> ?
[12:14] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Rock and roll oblivion!
[12:14] <cianci> calamari, how do i do that? (i'm kind of a newbie)
[12:14] <crimsun> hawking: sure you have audio files. Look in /usr/share/sounds/
[12:14] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, What's your music, nalioth?
[12:14] <ice> erUSUL_ : yes
[12:14] <ice> weird huh?
[12:14] <calamari> cianci: sudo gedit /etc/ndiswrapper
[12:14] <calamari> oops
[12:14] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:14] <calamari> cianci: sudo gedit /etc/profile
[12:14] <cianci> oh
[12:14] <cianci> ok
[12:14] <calamari> cianci: then put in the line
[12:15] <calamari> the other two I dunno
[12:15] <cianci> ok thank you
[12:15] <erUSUL_> ice, yes
[12:15] <calamari> cianci: I can't seem to get it right past the first time
[12:15] <calamari> cianci: it's  /etc/modules
[12:15] <cianci> ah, ok
[12:15] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Hmmm...don't appear to have ipconfig.  Is that something that's not generally included in the Server install?
[12:16] <calamari> cianci: but maybe you can use /etcprofile for the other tasks
[12:16] <cianci> yeah
[12:16] <crimsun> HaroldJohnson: ifconfig
[12:16] <crimsun> HaroldJohnson: ipconfig is MS
[12:16] <hawking> crimsun : and what programme can play wav files?
[12:16] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: ifconfig, ipconfig is for windows
[12:16] <crimsun> hawking: most can. aplay.
[12:16] <HaroldJohnson> crimsun, Doh!
[12:16] <Jerr> is there an easier way to setup nvidia than through the treacherous X config file?
[12:16] <erUSUL_> HaroldJohnson, iFconfig
[12:16] <ice> kernel panic - not syncing: attempting to kill init!
[12:17] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: if you like having "ipconfig" you can always alias it
[12:17] <mustard5> Jerr, install nvidia-glx?
[12:17] <cianci> calamari, do u know how to setup a usb printer? (HP Deskjet 610C)
[12:17] <ice> or do i have to change the drive?
[12:17] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, I forgot; haven't played with my settings in awhile
[12:17] <HaroldJohnson> crimsun, Thanks, crimmer
[12:17] <erUSUL_> Jerr, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:17] <hawking> crimsun : god it worked!! :)
[12:17] <HaroldJohnson> erUSUL_, Thanks!
[12:17] <calamari> cianci: no I don't.. my printer is conencted via parallel port
[12:17] <erUSUL_> cianci, the wizard does not work?
[12:18] <cianci> wizard? erUSUL ?
[12:18] <erUSUL_> cianci, System->Adm.>Printers
[12:18] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, That's just silly; I've never actually used ipconfig on Windows.
[12:18] <mc|amb> how can I check if the nvidia driver is installed and working??
[12:18] <erUSUL_> cianci, Add printer
[12:18] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Didn't even know it existed!
[12:18] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Thanks for the suggestion though.
[12:18] <hawking> crimsun: is there a way to understand which ipw2200 driver I have?
[12:18] <mustard5> mc|amb, a big splash screen with nvidia logo comes up when installed at boot up
[12:18] <cianci> erUSUL_, when i click it, it just says starting printing, then goes away
[12:19] <hawking> crimsun : sorry wrong question
[12:19] <calamari> cianci: it says that when you try to open add printer ?
[12:19] <mc|amb> mustard5, the logo comes up, but i ran a little game (tux racer or something like that) to check it, and it was ver very slow
[12:20] <ice> is there another option???
[12:20] <ice> is there another option??? anyone?
[12:20] <mc|amb> mustard5, any idea of whats going on?
[12:20] <calamari> cianci: actually "New Printer" here
[12:20] <cianci> when i go to system--administration---printers
[12:20] <Sanne> mc|amb:  "lsmod | grep nvidia" should tell you if the module is loaded
[12:20] <mustard5> mc|amb, where did you install the drivers from?
[12:20] <cianci> on the bar at the bottom of the screen, it says "starting printing" then goes away
[12:20] <Jerr> thanks, erUSUL_!
[12:20] <SunBurnt> ANYONE, is there a Ubuntu terminal server like Knoppix?
[12:21] <erUSUL_> Jerr, you are wellcome
[12:21] <SEJeff> SunBurnt: yeah
[12:21] <mc|amb> mustard5, in the help guide that comes with ubuntu.
[12:21] <SEJeff> SunBurnt: System --> Preferences --> Remote Desktop for vnc
[12:21] <erUSUL_> cianci, try sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[12:21] <Jerr> so to have changes, I should logout then Ctrl - alt - backspace, or is there a safer/better way?
[12:22] <cianci> ok, erUSUL_
[12:22] <mustard5> mc|amb, nvidia-glx drivers I take it...they should work fine..so I'm not sure really
[12:22] <SunBurnt> not LTSP or VNC but root over NFS or Samba
[12:22] <ColD_7> is there anyway to open files that can only be opened in internet explorer in ubuntu? i think it have something to do with the activex
[12:22] <mustard5> mc|amb, Sanne's hint was a good one
[12:22] <mustard5> mc|amb, Sanne said to lsmod | grep nvidia
[12:22] <erUSUL_> SunBurnt, maybe Edubuntu has suport for ltsp??
[12:23] <cianci> erUSUL_ , it says:  Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd: Child exited with status 99!
[12:23] <mc|amb> mustard5, i'll try it
[12:23] <crimsun> ->away.
[12:23] <Jerr> ColD_7, wine has IE in it, look it up on google, I havent used it for a while
[12:23] <erUSUL_> cianci, there you are. now you have a good error message to put in google search box ;)
[12:24] <cianci> ok :-)
[12:24] <SunBurnt> want diskless clients that run their own apps., LTSP is thin client, apps. run on server
[12:24] <Sanne> ColD_7: try IEs4Linux, wait, I'll find you the link
[12:24] <Sanne> ColD_7: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/
[12:25] <SunBurnt> VNC isn't multi user as such, but it could be, apps. still run on server
[12:25] <mc|amb> mustard5,  lsmod | grep nvidia   gives me      nvidia               3711364  12
[12:25] <mc|amb> agpgart                32328  2 nvidia,via_agp
[12:25] <mc|amb> mustard5, what does that mean?
[12:25] <davro> hi all, is there anything like putty for ubuntu/linux
[12:25] <b0c1> hi
[12:25] <mustard5> mc|amb, that would indicate that they are loaded I would say
[12:26] <b0c1> I installed postgresql
[12:26] <erUSUL_> mc|amb, the module is loaded
[12:26] <b0c1> but it's say ERROR:  language "plpgsql" does not exist
[12:26] <hawking> crimsun : how can i understand if my wireless driver works correctly or not?
[12:26] <b0c1> but the plpgsql.so is in the /lib...
[12:26] <erUSUL_> davro, putty runs on linux search in synaptic
[12:26] <mc|amb> mustard5, erUSUL_, thanks
[12:26] <ColD_7> Sanne, how should i install that?
[12:27] <ColD_7> thanks
[12:27] <ColD_7> i have found it
[12:27] <davro> erUSUL, apt-cache search putty => cheers
[12:27] <Sanne> ColD_7: :)
[12:27] <Jerr> shits
[12:28] <Jerr> now it only lets me go to 60hz
[12:28] <mc|amb> mustard5, I was curious because the way i've always installed the driver i had to download it from nvidia's web site and a lot of other thigs
[12:28] <hawking> how can i change keyboard to another language?
[12:28] <mc|amb> mustard5, what do you think?
[12:28] <erUSUL_> ubotu: tell Jerr about fixres
[12:28] <SunBurnt> I was told by someone that Unbuntu has net booting client setup like Knoppix so I ordered the CDs, now I'm guessing they were wrong
[12:29] <mustard5> mc|amb, the nvidia-glx drivers in synaptic support hardware acceleration so I would think they would work
[12:30] <mustard5> mc|amb, if you think that they are not doing so then you can get the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site if you feel so inclined
[12:30] <Eltanin> hey
[12:30] <cianci> i installed xmms, and when i go to applications---audio and video---xmms, there is no icon for it
[12:30] <mc|amb> mustard5, ill try theese , thanks for your time
[12:30] <mustard5> mc|amb, ok
[12:31] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to "print" to a .pdf file?
[12:31] <gianlucash> hi!
[12:31] <greubeuld> hi
[12:31] <gianlucash> does anybody use wine?
[12:32] <trappist> all the cool guys use wine
[12:32] <Lolek> anyone knows how to mount NTFS partition that is writtable
[12:32] <Lolek> _
[12:32] <Lolek> ?
[12:32] <Sanne> bur[n] er: you can print to file (.ps) and use ps2pdf (I believe) to convert. Or use OpenOffice :)
[12:32] <gianlucash> I couln't find a hughe ftp graphic client, so I decided to use FlashFXP with wine
[12:32] <erUSUL_> Lolek, not possible
[12:32] <bur[n] er> Sanne: it's a web page :\  ps2pdf sounds like my plan.. thanks
[12:32] <gianlucash> but how can i open my .exe in an indipendend window?
[12:32] <trappist> Lolek: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[12:32] <dabaR> Lolek: its unsafe to write to ntfs
[12:32] <trappist> erUSUL_: it is possible
[12:32] <Lolek> omg
[12:32] <trappist> dabaR: it's save with captive
[12:32] <Lolek> what now
[12:32] <cianci> does anyone know how to get the correct icon next to a program in the applications menu?
[12:32] <Lolek> >*
[12:32] <Sanne> bur[n] er: yeah, I'll think that may work.
[12:32] <Lolek> :(
[12:32] <SunBurnt> kyral... are you there?
[12:33] <Lolek> dabaR,
[12:33] <gianlucash> I correcly setup and open the program, but I can't open in in an indipendent window
[12:33] <Lolek> why?
[12:33] <gianlucash> any suggestions?
[12:33] <Lolek> but is it possible or not
[12:33] <trappist> Lolek: check the link I gave you.
[12:33] <Lolek> ok
[12:33] <dabaR> trappist: I gheard it still is not safe..
[12:33] <erUSUL_> trappist, captive uses m$ code without permission...
[12:34] <bur[n] er> Sanne: well.. it works, but the format is all f'd up :\
[12:34] <trappist> erUSUL_: if you own a copy of windows you're fine
[12:34] <bur[n] er> Sanne: know if there's a way to make a PDF printer?
[12:34] <trappist> dabaR: it uses the windows ntfs drivers, so I imagine it's about as safe as those are
[12:34] <dabaR> ya, well, it just uses it is not...
[12:35] <Sanne> bur[n] er: I did that ages ago in Debian Woody under KDE - something about kprinter - but maybe no option if you want to stay with Gnome... sorry, no better idea.
[12:35] <bur[n] er> ooh... Sanne, ever heard of cups-pdf :)  an apt-cache showed it to me, so it might work
[12:35] <gianlucash> anybody?:(
[12:35] <cianci> does anyone know how to get the correct icon next to a program in the applications menu?
[12:35] <Lolek> is this gona destroy my partition
[12:35] <Lolek> ?
[12:35] <Sanne> bur[n] er: ah, sounds cool, let me know how it goes, might come handy for me too :)
[12:35] <Lolek> im afraid
[12:35] <Stormx2> Just finishing off my how-to :)
[12:35] <Lolek> :(
[12:35] <zxsykco> Hmmmn, nalioth, have you got a moment?
[12:36] <nalioth> zxsykco: in #kubuntu-offtopic i do
[12:36] <bur[n] er> Sanne: well.. it's not as easy as I'd hoped.. apt-get install cups-pdf does not make it appear in my gnome printer list :
[12:36] <trappist> nalioth: just got your something-like-msgs but out of context I don't know what they were for
[12:37] <Sanne> bur[n] er: hmmm... I would try it, but I'm not an Ubuntu user yet...
[12:37] <erUSUL_> Lolek, like every free software out there "this comes with absolutly no waranty..."
[12:37] <Sanne> bur[n] er: but it should help to read the man page, I think?
[12:37] <nalioth> trappist: they were /notice trappist msgs aka "private notice"s
[12:37] <trappist> gotcha.  haven't seen one of those in years :)
[12:37] <nalioth> trappist: and they said you are talking over the heads of most users in here asking questions
[12:37] <trappist> oops.
[12:38] <bur[n] er> Sanne: i'm sure it would... i think i'm just going to connect a printer for the time being though ;)
[12:38] <Sanne> bur[n] er: heh, ok :)
[12:38] <cianci> does anyone know how to get the correct icon next to a program in the applications menu? for example xmms)
[12:39] <Sanne> bur[n] er: wait! I read something about restarting cups
[12:39] <trappist> in that case I'd like to say that I've decided that distros that are good for newbs are great for experts too.
[12:39] <trappist> except gentoo.
[12:39] <bur[n] er> Sanne: i did that ;)
[12:39] <Sanne> bur[n] er: ok...
[12:39] <Lolek> W32 filesystem .sys module not found: /var/lib/captive/ntfs.sys at /sbin/mount.captive-ntfs line 65.
[12:39] <Lolek> You should run captive-install-acquire(1) of 'captive-install' package,
[12:39] <Lolek> otherwise you can also acquire this file from URL:
[12:39] <Lolek> http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsXP/pro/downloads/servicepacks/sp1/checkedbuild.asp
[12:39] <nalioth> trappist: of course. that's part of what makes them great
[12:39] <Lolek> ?
[12:39] <nalioth> Lolek: please dont paste in here, use a pastebin
[12:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Lolek about paste
[12:39] <trappist> Lolek: it says all over that web page that you need ntfs.sys for it to work.
[12:39] <Sanne> bur[n] er: and did you try to set up a new printer?
[12:40] <Lolek> #flood tra, extr
[12:40] <Lolek> ?
[12:40] <nalioth> Lolek: you are heading for trouble, imho
[12:40] <trappist> Lolek: also, the error message tells you exactly what to do.
[12:40] <Lolek> can anyone help
[12:40] <bxa> will ubuntu take debian packages?
[12:40] <Lolek> download
[12:41] <bur[n] er> Sanne: oh ;)
[12:41] <SunBurnt> has anyone messed with backstreetRuby / multi simultainous users Xwin setup?
[12:41] <Sanne> bur[n] er: works?
[12:41] <nalioth> bxa: it will not
[12:41] <jrattner1> How can i get a remote, so i can change the songs being played in linux?
[12:41] <jrattner1> ?
[12:41] <jrattner1> or where
[12:41] <bxa> nalioth: theyre both based on debian
[12:41] <bur[n] er> Sanne: i'm not sure hwat driver to use, but it detected a 'PDF Printer'
[12:41] <bxa> \why wouldnt it
[12:42] <nalioth> bxa: they are both based on debian SOURCE, the binaries are much different
[12:42] <felipe_> Has anyone else besides me had trouble with the nvidia driver and the 686 kernel? (BTW I have a Gforce 2mx200)
[12:42] <Sanne> bur[n] er: I just skimmed over here, it's mentioned something about virtual printer  http://cip.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de/~vrbehr/cups-pdf/
[12:42] <bxa> thats weird. it makes no sence why they wouldnt use the same packaging system. the deb package list is huge
[12:43] <Sanne> bur[n] er: it sais to choose "Virtual Printer (PDF Printer)"
[12:43] <nalioth> bxa: have you enabled universe and multiverse ubuntu repos?
[12:43] <trappist> felipe_: you need to compile the nvidia drivers specifically for your kernel
[12:43] <mustard5> felipe, I have had troulbe with changeing kernels and nvidia full stop :)  bit I can't be bothered fixing it, so no solutions
[12:43] <Vorpulus> nalioth, how do I install java-package_0.24_all.deb ?
[12:43] <bxa> nalioth, havent installed debian, im getting myself of mandrake and really want to go debian
[12:43] <nalioth> Vorpulus: sudo dpkg -i java-package_0.24_all.deb
[12:43] <Vorpulus> thanks :)
[12:43] <bxa> but i dont want to download all 14 debian disks
[12:43] <trappist> bxa: you don't have to do that for debian any more than you have to do it for ubuntu.
[12:43] <felipe_> trappist, I already did that
[12:44] <nalioth> bxa: ubuntu and debian share a source base, ubuntu has over 16,000 pkgs available
[12:44] <trappist> felipe_: and now what
[12:44] <bxa> holy crap its trappist!
[12:44] <trappist> bxa?
[12:44] <MachineScrew> has any one had sucsess with remotedesktop from linux to a windows machine
[12:44] <trappist> woah dude!
[12:44] <bxa> ya man, shit son! this is awesome
[12:44] <FujiHOST> yup
[12:44] <holycow> is there a java deb install for breezy yet out there?
[12:44] <trappist> thought you were dead or something
[12:44] <bxa> so many years ago.
[12:44] <bur[n] er> Sanne: no luck from within gnome on that... oh well, I gtg though ;)
[12:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell holycow about javadeb
[12:44] <Lolek> trappist,
[12:44] <felipe_> trappist, also I run the dpkg-reconfig xserver-xorg, But I still get screen foud but no usefull resolution.
[12:44] <FujiHOST> use realvnc
[12:44] <Sanne> bur[n] er: ok, good luck :)
[12:44] <bxa> trappist, you were a mandrake guy, thats where i always talked to you.
[12:44] <bur[n] er> realvnc == slow... tightvnc == fast
[12:44] <Lolek> the problem is im on live cd
[12:45] <trappist> bxa: yep, I remember
[12:45] <bur[n] er> thansk Sanne, bye :)
[12:45] <holycow> nalioth, mucha gracias, awesome
[12:45] <Lolek> couse mz linux ubuntudude  doesnt work
[12:45] <Sanne> :)
[12:45] <Lolek> ubuntu ewn
[12:45] <Lolek> :(
[12:45] <hawking> how can i change the keyboard language? I changed from preferences--> keyboard but it didn't work
[12:45] <bxa> trappist, what i was saying is i want to do a base install first and then add packages later.
[12:45] <MachineScrew> FujiHOST, I would but the remote desktop on windows is 3000 miles away and it belongs to my dad and VNC isn't easy
[12:45] <trappist> felipe_: does your xorg.conf have 'nvidia' or 'nv' for the driver
[12:45] <Vorpulus> nalioth, that reminds me, I actually did it before. The last line is Setting up java-package (0.24) ... and then it just goes back to the usual command prompt
[12:45] <Lolek> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:46] <Lolek> gedit
[12:46] <MachineScrew> FujiHOST, I know rdesktop can do it
[12:46] <Lolek> or nano
[12:46] <bxa> i just wanted to know if i could use deb packages because their package selection is huge
[12:46] <Vorpulus> but is it actually installed...
[12:46] <bxa> packages are what im going for when i look at a distro
[12:46] <nalioth> bxa: go ahead. server install gets you a fully network ready console environment
[12:46] <nalioth> Vorpulus: then you are done
[12:46] <Vorpulus> oh cool
[12:46] <MachineScrew> FujiHOST, so thats what I am looking at because his system is set up already for that
[12:46] <trappist> bxa: ubuntu and debian are not binary-compatible.  use ubuntu's packages.  they have about as many as debian does.
[12:46] <Vorpulus> so now I should be able to install the jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[12:46] <bxa> trappist, serious?
[12:46] <bxa> what about rare software
[12:46] <Lolek> trappist, i am an amateur and i need serious help :(
[12:46] <Vorpulus> right? :p
[12:47] <felipe_> trappist, when I put nvidia It doesn't starts and says It found the screen but no useable resolution. Now I started X with the nv
[12:47] <MachineScrew> FujiHOST, is there a site with clear documentation on TSclient usage
[12:47] <ompaul> bxa, compile from source
[12:47] <Vorpulus> Lolek, are you more of a novice than I?? :p
[12:47] <trappist> bxa: I haven't run across anything debian has that ubuntu doesn't
[12:47] <Lolek> jup
[12:47] <Vorpulus> unlikely..
[12:47] <Lolek> i only have 2 days ubuntu
[12:47] <P229> hello
[12:47] <ompaul> bxa, when there is no package
[12:47] <Lolek> or better to say linux
[12:47] <trappist> felipe_: I'm afraid I've never seen that one, but it looks like you have a resolution set up that nvidia can't handle
[12:47] <Vorpulus> hmmm I had mine yesterday and today
[12:47] <bxa> are there any ubuntu package search sites?
[12:47] <Lolek> me too
[12:47] <Vorpulus> so we are about equal in that respect ;)
[12:47] <thirso> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.167)]  , it wont connect when i try to apt-get -f install , what can i do?
[12:47] <Vorpulus> are you me?
[12:47] <davro> when one does an 'sudo apt-get source putty' where does the source get download to ? proberly being a div
[12:47] <Lolek> :)
[12:48] <trappist> Lolek: I forgot what your problem is
[12:48] <Vorpulus> it's late after all..
[12:48] <hawking> how can i change the keyboard language? I changed from preferences--> keyboard but it didn't work
[12:48] <MachineScrew> ompaul, I say get an rpm and do alien on it
[12:48] <asdx> Where can I get the breezy background image?
[12:48] <Lolek> i want to copy a file from desktop do ntfs partition
[12:48] <MachineScrew> ompaul, I don't like sorces
[12:48] <holycow> there is putty for linux?
[12:48] <carl> what should I apt-get to satify firefox's need for a "java runtime enviroment" ?
[12:48] <holycow> weird
[12:48] <Lolek> you gaved me a link
[12:48] <ompaul> MachineScrew, I say get the sources and build it
[12:48] <davidpelaez> Hello everyone.
[12:48] <Lolek> and i folloved
[12:48] <P229> why does "Places > Recent Documents" lose the recent documents list after restart? is this a bug or a feature?
[12:48] <MachineScrew> ompaul, I heard
[12:48] <holycow> carl, ff doesn't need java, where did you read that?
[12:48] <trappist> Lolek: you need to use captiventfs for that.  that's really all I know - I've never used it.
[12:48] <Stormx2> Yay I wrote a HOWTO!
[12:49] <carl> holycow, not that ff needs it, but a site does
[12:49] <asdx> Where can I get the breezy background image?
[12:49] <carl> holycow, so the java that FF uses
[12:49] <trappist> Lolek: I also know that the error you pasted into the channel contained instructions for fixing it.
[12:49] <MachineScrew> ompaul, but then why not use gentoo or freeBSD why include alien ?
[12:49] <holycow> carl http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ i think that should do it
[12:49] <davidpelaez> I have a quest about ubuntu packages. Can i add all my sources.list entries from debian into ubunto sources.list?? would there be any problem about compatibility???
[12:49] <_jason> ubotu:  tell asdx about art
[12:49] <Lolek> ok
[12:49] <Lolek> ill try
[12:49] <felipe_> trappist, I don't think thats it, although I could try removing the 1280x1024 option
[12:49] <trappist> davidpelaez: no
[12:49] <Lolek> :)
[12:49] <zubunt> Hi
[12:49] <davidpelaez> why?
[12:49] <felipe_> trappist, wich is working right now
[12:50] <trappist> davidpelaez: debian and ubuntu are not binary-compatible.  you can't mix packages.
[12:50] <bxa> debian package search engines? anyone
[12:50] <felipe_> trappist, Oh and BTW the nvidia works like a charm on the 386 kernel
[12:50] <carl> holycow, I was looking for the "other" one, black down maybe?
[12:50] <MachineScrew> ompaul, for some things I will compile if the converted rpm gives me dependency issues
[12:50] <holycow> carl, don't use blackdown
[12:50] <trappist> felipe_: very strange.
[12:50] <carl> holycow, why not?
[12:50] <bxa> i mean ubuntu search engine ?
[12:50] <erUSUL_> davidpelaez, no. yes
[12:50] <zubunt> I need help. I switched from fglrx drivers to gpld ati drivers from xorg. 3d acceleration isn't working.
[12:50] <davidpelaez> is ubuntu binary compatible with any other distro???
[12:50] <MachineScrew> ompaul, case in point to get Skype a wile back I had to get the rpm and convert to deb
[12:50] <ompaul> MachineScrew, that is the only reason, and then in the future when you upgrade you can build against the correct sources
[12:50] <davidpelaez> erUSUL_: why?
[12:50] <trappist> zubunt: 3d accel will not work with the oss drivers.
[12:51] <mustard5> felipe_, I'm in the same boat, as I said earlier, if you come up with a solution let me know ;)
[12:51] <walter_> I need aid with gnome... When I want to enter my session says to me that it has lasted 10 seconds and I cannot enter..que I do?
[12:51] <davidpelaez> esUSUL_: did u say yes to my qust abotu 5.10???
[12:51] <ompaul> MachineScrew, I have not and I have been running it for ages
[12:51] <holycow> its for debian first and second i just gave you an ubunty repo.  someone mentioned something about blackdown also being screwy and not having the latest jre
[12:51] <troy> is there an ubuntu server channel?  I joined #ubuntu-server and I'm the only one there...
[12:51] <trappist> zubunt: the whole point of using the fglrx drivers is to make 3d accel work
[12:51] <erUSUL_> davidpelaez, trappist already told you
[12:51] <zubunt> trppist: No 3d with oss drivers? That worked under hoary.
[12:51] <carl> davidpelaez, "yes" - there are 2 or 3 unix binary formats
[12:51] <ompaul> MachineScrew, and I stay up to date
[12:51] <MachineScrew> ompaul, skype
[12:51] <ompaul> MachineScrew, Seveas has a version somewhere
[12:51] <MachineScrew> so do I
[12:51] <nalioth> davidpelaez: it is and it isnt binary compatible with debian
[12:52] <Vorpulus> Would one of you pros mind taking a look at this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4085
[12:52] <nalioth> holycow: blackdown is available in the repos
[12:52] <mustard5> Vorpulus, looking now...
[12:52] <davidpelaez> u mean that they can share only some packages or something like that?
[12:52] <MachineScrew> ompaul, well the one that the skype web site has is older and Ubuntu upgraded it for me
[12:52] <erUSUL_> zubunt, gpl drivers only provide 3d accel for r200 based cards (man radeon for a list of cards)
[12:52] <ompaul> MachineScrew, now there is gizmo that should remove the reliance on skype
[12:52] <Vorpulus> ahh mustard! You're still here! :)
[12:52] <Lolek> trappist, how do i get my linux on (i deleted the ram partition ) :S
[12:52] <zubunt> I have an r200 card.
[12:52] <holycow> nalioth, i thought no one used that anymore?
[12:52] <Lolek> how do i create one again
[12:52] <zubunt> dri loads
[12:52] <holycow> well k.
[12:52] <felipe_> mustard5, Ok
[12:52] <carl> so dump skype and go with a standard sip VoIP phone
[12:53] <Lolek> trappist, how do i get my linux on (i deleted the ram partition ) :S
[12:53] <MachineScrew> ompaul, ya i like gizmo better but its still in alpha right
[12:53] <Lolek> how do i create one again
[12:53] <erUSUL_> zubunt, so do i and 3d acc is working like in hoary
[12:53] <nalioth> holycow: <ahem> ppc users
[12:53] <Vorpulus> is there a substitute for skype that I can use to talk to people who use skype?
[12:53] <zubunt> WHat have i done wrong?
[12:53] <mustard5> Vorpulus, yeah..was chatting with my gf for a while..I'm just wondering whether you have the right java package
[12:53] <ompaul> MachineScrew, well when sorted it will be fun
[12:53] <zubunt> dri loads according to glxinfo. But glxgears is terrible slow
[12:53] <MachineScrew> ompaul, ya
[12:53] <Vorpulus> I downloaded the one the ubuntu manual told me to get
[12:54] <MachineScrew> ompaul, I need it to be in the notification tray
[12:54] <mustard5> Vorpulus, share the link with me and I'll have a read
[12:54] <Lolek> would anyone help please
[12:54] <Lolek> how do i get my linux on (i deleted the ram partition ) :S
[12:54] <Vorpulus> the link to the java page?
[12:54] <MachineScrew> ompaul, but right now switching to gizmo would be a hassle I have to tell all the skype people to switch to it
[12:54] <Lolek> how do i create one again
[12:55] <mustard5> Vorpulus, the link to the how to page
[12:55] <erUSUL_> zubunt, have you checked with another 3d app?
[12:55] <zubunt> Yes. Bzflag. Terrible slow. 2 fps
[12:55] <mustard5> Vorpulus, or whatever link you got :)
[12:55] <ompaul> MachineScrew, no you tell them your moving and how to get there
[12:55] <Vorpulus> I don't know how to get the link.. it's a manual on my computer
[12:55] <davidpelaez> abotu sources.list from apt. Can i take the entries from this file in 5.10 and put 'em into my ubunto 5.04 soruces list??????
[12:55] <Vorpulus> I think it's on the Internet too, I'll try and find it
[12:56] <MachineScrew> ompaul, right now I am trying to get tsclient to work with windows remote desktop security isn't an issue
[12:56] <mustard5> Vorplus, was it from ubotu?
[12:56] <holycow> nalioth, giannaros java debs throw some weird errors :/
[12:56] <Vorpulus> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-java <-- there it is
[12:56] <MachineScrew> ompaul, so that it what I am here for
[12:56] <Lolek> dabaR,
[12:56] <bartelt> need help getting nis working on thinclient(ltsp)
[12:56] <erUSUL_> davidpelaez, yes you will update from 5.04 to 5.10 after mb of dl
[12:57] <nalioth> holycow: like what ? (paste them if more than one line)
[12:57] <esc_ape> is it possible to install ndiswrapper + windows drivers (from linksys cd) while on the ubuntu live cd?
[12:57] <darius__> How do I get a kernel module to load at boot in Ubuntu?
[12:57] <holycow> for example:
[12:57] <holycow> mv: cannot stat `rmid': No such file or directory
[12:57] <holycow> update-alternatives: unable to rename rmid to /usr/bin/rmid: Invalid cross-device link
[12:57] <mustard5> Vorpulus, is your goal to have sunjava installed? or just any java?
[12:57] <MachineScrew> ompaul, but somany people have yelled at me for telling some one to get an rpm of xine-ui because the one in the repos is an old one
[12:57] <holycow> i've never seen that, thrown during install of jre1.4
[12:58] <holycow> during 1.5 jre install:
[12:58] <kbrooks> MachineScrew: dont
[12:58] <MachineScrew> ompaul, but they swore it would break the system yet I have installed it using alien
[12:58] <nalioth> esc_ape: if you have 2 optical drives, yes
[12:58] <Vorpulus> Well, on Mozilla Firefox I sometimes get a message about a java plug-in missing. I just want to get those things to work
[12:58] <holycow> mv: cannot stat `javaws': No such file or directory
[12:58] <holycow> update-alternatives: unable to rename javaws to /usr/bin/javaws: Invalid cross-device link
[12:58] <holycow> i'venot seen that either
[12:58] <Vorpulus> I can find an example...
[12:58] <kbrooks> MachineScrew: do not mix rpms and apts (even if alien)
[12:58] <MachineScrew> kbrooks, you again you don't
[12:58] <ompaul> MachineScrew, well when you are in need of an upgrade what with you do?
[12:58] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Vorpulus about javadeb
[12:58] <mustard5> Voruplus look at the link from ubotu
[12:58] <nalioth> holycow: that is not a gianarros deb error, that is because you have other javas on your box
[12:58] <kbrooks> MachineScrew: ?
[12:58] <Vorpulus> http://www.math.com/students/graphing.html
[12:58] <MachineScrew> kbrooks, I have been using linux for years
[12:58] <Vorpulus> ok, thanks
[12:59] <zubunt> Hmm, I reinstalled xserver-xorg-core, glxgears seems to work. Ill check bzflag
[12:59] <holycow> what? *hmmm* lemme check
[12:59] <mustard5> Vorpulus, go to the one for your version...breezy IIRC
[12:59] <kbrooks> MachineScrew: dont
[12:59] <kbrooks> erm dont mix them
[12:59] <MachineScrew> kbrook, i know what I am doing I am not just some newb that dosn't know any thing so don't tell me don't
[12:59] <kbrooks> not worth the hassle
[12:59] <MachineScrew> ompaul, apt-get will still upgrade it
[01:00] <mustard5> Vorpulus, you probably want the second sun jre package
[01:00] <ompaul> MachineScrew, if it was lagging in the first place and there is a sec issue you are going to have to track that
[01:00] <Vorpulus> Ok, I'll give it a shot!
[01:00] <darius__> Anyone know how to make kernel modules load at startup?
[01:00] <Stormx2> darius__: Good question ^_^
[01:00] <Stormx2> darius__: Let me seee...
[01:00] <mustard5> Vorpulus, I'll walk you through the install :)
[01:01] <MachineScrew> ompaul, ompaul across to distros
[01:01] <Vorpulus> you're too kind. ;)
[01:01] <erUSUL_> darius__, put it /etc/modules
[01:01] <river091> ello
[01:01] <mustard5> Vorpulus, if you join #kubuntu-offtopic its quieter ok?
[01:01] <erUSUL_> darius__, put it in* /etc/modules
[01:01] <darius__> just add to /etc/modules and I'm set?
[01:01] <MachineScrew> ompaul, you have to be kidding it was from christmas last year and hasn't been touched in horay or in breezy
[01:01] <Vorpulus> if I can work out how to join it.... I barely know how I got in here anymore
[01:01] <mustard5> ..type /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:02] <Vorpulus> in here?
[01:02] <mustard5> yep
[01:02] <mustard5> the '/' thing tells your irc client its a command
[01:02] <erUSUL_> darius__, yes
[01:02] <holycow> oh some java stuff got installed during open office install?
[01:02] <river091> lkjdlfjdsf
[01:02] <MachineScrew> ompaul, and also the fact if you install it form source you still have to watch it but it will install it /usr/local/ and I never have been able to get it to install else ware
[01:03] <MachineScrew> ompaul, so on the untested apps
[01:03] <hawking> does anyone know how to change the keyboard lang?
[01:03] <eduardo> Hi
[01:04] <Nihil85> hello mustard5"
[01:04] <Nihil85> i solved my problem with the damaged HD
[01:04] <erUSUL_> hawking, maybe reconfiguring X. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:04] <shinu> is there a version of  adobe photoshop for linux?
[01:04] <MachineScrew> ompaul, I will compile from source using checkintall but on apps I know about like xine I will do the rpms especialy when the only dependency is installed
[01:04] <thirso> can anyone help me with this apt-get problem http://pastebin.com/417721 ?
[01:04] <MachineScrew> so there
[01:04] <erUSUL_> shinu, gimp
[01:04] <mustard5> he Nihil85
[01:04] <shinu> erUSUL_: that wasnt really my question...
[01:05] <MachineScrew> any one else wants to flame me for converting rpms to debs
[01:05] <ompaul> MachineScrew, well the jury is out on that, and I am with the neysayers
[01:05] <Nihil85> mustard5, i have fixed the problem with a miracolous software called "Ontrack Easy Recovery"
[01:05] <shinu> erUSUL_: cause i wanted to ask which one was better...
[01:05] <eduardo> mmm... dpkg-reconfigure locales
[01:05] <eduardo> ?
[01:05] <mustard5> Nihil85, I'm glad to hear that :)
[01:05] <marsh> hello every peeps :)
[01:05] <zubunt> reinstalling xserver-xorg-core worked, bzflag is fast again thanks :-)
[01:05] <MachineScrew> ompaul, as I said to kbrooks I have been using linux since 96 debian was version 1 rc2
[01:05] <thirso> nvm, it connected
[01:05] <seanw> hi, i need to i need to install libqt3c102-mt-mysql to get mythtv but apt-get cant find it
[01:05] <Nihil85> in only 1 hour i saved in another hd the 6 gb of files
[01:06] <marsh> is there a memtest equivelent on the ubuntu hoary boot disk?
[01:06] <MachineScrew> ompaul, I have used rpms for a very long time I know what to expect
[01:06] <marsh> if not - whats the best way to test my memory ubuntu style?
[01:06] <hawking> erUSUL_: there was a simple command to do that which I can't remmeber it was like setkb or smth like that
[01:06] <Nei> does someone know who vostok.ubuntu.com is?
[01:06] <K_Dallas> marsh, you mean ram? i used the install disk and the first thing i did was the memtest
[01:07] <gianlucash> i'm running flashfxp through wine, but I've got a lot of error connecting to a ftp
[01:07] <erUSUL> zubunt, glad to hear it
[01:07] <gianlucash> I've just tried an ftp from windows and no problem, but with wine...150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
[01:07] <gianlucash> why?:(
[01:07] <marsh> K_Dallas, I dont seem to have that option on my !boot disk?!?!
[01:07] <buvens> i want to to mount an fat32 partition into a users home directory on startup via fstat, what do i have to put in fstab, so that that user has rights to browse/create/delete files in this mounted directory?
[01:07] <gianlucash> Or, can anybody suggest me a huge ftp graphic client?
[01:07] <ompaul> MachineScrew, well we all get bitten at times, as as you say you can take care of yourself, however I would never suggest that (alien) to anyone in particular new users
[01:08] <marsh> had it with redhat/fedora, but not with ubuntu - tried 'memtest' and 'memtest86' etc - but no joy :(
[01:08] <erUSUL> gianlucash, gftp does not work for you?
[01:08] <Nihil85> erUSUL, can i bother you a minute in private?
[01:08] <gianlucash> no erUSUL :(
[01:08] <marsh> K_Dallas, where/how did you find it?
[01:08] <MachineScrew> ompaul, well telling them to compile is better
[01:08] <erUSUL> Nihil85, yes
[01:08] <Nihil85> gianlucash, sei italiano?
[01:09] <gianlucash> it is full of error, and for example I can't paste something like ftp://usr:pwd@host:port
[01:09] <MachineScrew> ompaul, I say that discourages people
[01:09] <gianlucash> si Nihil :)
[01:09] <gianlucash> and also it sometimes crash if I transfer a lot o file (500+)
[01:09] <Nihil85> ehehe, c' anche il channel @ubuntu-it ma a quest'ora dormono tutti
[01:09] <MachineScrew> ompaul, why do you think Linspire (even if they suck) do so well with CNR
[01:10] <MachineScrew> ompaul, people don't want to compile especialy new users
[01:10] <cianci> hi, does anyone know how to download and install the windows fonts package?
[01:10] <Nihil85> erUSUL, can you read what i wrote in private?
[01:10] <apokryphos> Linspire got a few things right, no doubt. Hard to not see the glaringly bad things though
[01:10] <MachineScrew> ompaul, i do tell them to only do that with xine or any thing else I figure is ok
[01:11] <erUSUL> yes
[01:11] <emgee> Is it possible to upgrade hoary to breezy instead of reinstalling? I don't wanna loose all my installs and configurations...
[01:11] <MachineScrew> ompaul, because I have done it my self
[01:11] <MachineScrew> emgee, yes it is and simple
[01:11] <buvens> no idea?
[01:11] <emgee> MachineScrew, Nice to hear! How's it done then?
[01:12] <erUSUL> emgee, yes change the repos and do de upgrade
[01:12] <MachineScrew> emgee change your sources.list to breezy from hoary
[01:12] <emgee> What? That damn easy?
[01:12] <emgee> Wow..
[01:12] <carl> ok, what do I need to satify " Java Virtual Machine version 1.4" that http://gallery.menalto.com/wiki/Gallery_Remote wants?
[01:12] <MachineScrew> emgee, then do apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:12] <carl> that doesn't have sun issues
[01:12] <MachineScrew> emgee, I did it
[01:13] <MachineScrew> emgee, works flawlessly
[01:13] <erUSUL> emgee, so do i
[01:13] <MachineScrew> not even windows is that easy
[01:14] <Rawplayer> re
[01:14] <JeffAMcGee> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[01:14] <holycow> huh
[01:14] <holycow> nalioth, thank you for that tip, it turned out open office installed its own java
[01:14] <holycow> i didn't know
[01:15] <MachineScrew> emgee, there are not any backports so if you have them in there commint them out
[01:17] <ompaul> MachineScrew, #ubuntu-offtopic if you want my next comment this is a support channel and really its too open to debate but I have a long comment to make
[01:19] <nimai> hi all, i'm a linux newb and am installing ubuntu on my laptop, im wondering whats a good partition setup and what's lvm, can someone help me out?
[01:19] <cianci> does anyone know why when i do sudo apt-get isntall msttcorefonts it tells me msttcorefonts has no installation candidate?
[01:19] <marsh> Hey Gents - anyone know anything about memtest in ubuntu? I cant seem to find it when booting from my hoary disk... tried various versions (memtest, memtest86 memtest86+ etc... but none exist!?!
[01:19] <marsh> am I missing something?
[01:20] <erUSUL> !tell cianci about repos
[01:20] <Jerr> marsh, have you tried f1 f2, etc?
[01:20] <Jerr> when bootinh
[01:20] <iiiears>  you can find mscorefonts at sorceforge.net
[01:20] <ompaul> marsh, in breezy you use it from by hitting esc in grub and then select it
[01:20] <marsh> yeah, but I binned the disks when I decided to go 100% Ubuntu
[01:21] <holycow> for those asking about ffox java plugin ... you can just install the 1.5 jres from here: http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[01:21] <iiiears> i chec sourceforge.net for msttcorefonts
[01:21] <nalioth> iiiears: ? msttcorefonts are available via apt-get
[01:21] <holycow> that will install the ffox plugin .. not sure about epiphany
[01:21] <holycow> make sure you uninstall whatever openoffice.org installed however
[01:22] <anto9us> nimai, it's a good idea to at least seperate off your /home partition you can reinstall without formatting it and, thus, keep your data, lvm is logical volume manager, allows you to add disks and expand mounts on to their partitions, you might not want that for a laptop though
[01:22] <hawking> how can i play mp3s in breezy?
[01:22] <iiiears> nalioth - didn't he say no insall candidate available?
[01:22] <hawking> tell hawking about mp3
[01:22] <wiechu> i got problem like that: ubuntu is masquerading internet connection from adsl. On computers which uses that shared connection i cannot access some webpages. It connects but it's stopping at some point (very early) anyone got simillar problem?
[01:22] <hawking> ubotu tell hawking about mp3
[01:22] <nimai> cheers
[01:22] <marsh> ompaul, ?confused? - how do I get into grub? there doesn't seem to be a way in - I can press 'esc' all the way in - but I still get...
[01:22] <Blackgoth> hi
[01:22] <marsh> hang on...
[01:22] <nalioth> !info msttcorefonts
[01:22] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[01:22] <cianci> which one of the repositories has msttcorefonts?
[01:22] <nalioth> iiiears: i smell PEBKAC
[01:22] <marsh> is grub, perchance, without the !boot disk?
[01:23] <iiiears> nah i sbell oka - lol
[01:23] <emgee> hehe 1227 files to download for the breezy upgrade...
[01:23] <ompaul> marsh, as the machine boots up you get press escape and you get a menu you get a couple of seconds
[01:23] <emgee> Are there major changes?
[01:24] <Blackgoth> I couldnt find it in the wiki, but is there a way to install ubunto from the live cd's? meaning, or by using the live cd's or a netinstall?
[01:24] <marsh> ompaul, - yeah - I just seen it... thanks mate - couldn't find that in google etc though... (thought i'd point that out)
[01:24] <marsh> ompaul, thanks man.
[01:24] <hawking> ubotu tell hawking about mp3
[01:24] <hawking> oops sorry
[01:25] <ompaul> marsh, np
[01:25] <nimai> still on the partitioning, how much space does linux want for / (root)
[01:26] <cianci> which one of the repositories has the msttcorefonts package?
[01:26] <hawking> none of you know to change the keyboard lang? :/
[01:26] <jonny> what can you play .zip video files with?
[01:26] <nalioth> cianci: scroll up and see what ubotu said about them
[01:26] <Dasnipa`> you can unzip them first
[01:26] <cianci> ok
[01:26] <erUSUL> cianci, multiverse
[01:26] <a-l-p-h-a> I'm getting the following error when I try to do get an "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4087  any one know what to do?
[01:27] <jonny> unzip=extract, right?
[01:28] <jron> I have a ATI TV Wonderer VE... it for whatever reason tvtime detects the signal to be pal so everything is black and white and off by 1 chan... i've had this problem before and i used the fix on the website to solve it... that fix being adding:  options bttv card=1 autoload=0 radio=0 tuner=2 to /etc/modules.conf that was using gentoo however... now when i put the same line in my modules file for ubuntu, it does nothing...
[01:29] <jron> anyone know what the problem could be?
[01:29] <mnault> mmm
[01:29] <jron> i found this post and the guy talks about adding the option to his alias file? i have no idea what file he is refering to...
[01:30] <jron> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25005&highlight=bttv+ati
[01:30] <mnault> jron
[01:30] <jron> mnault,
[01:30] <mnault> what capture card?
[01:30] <jron> ATI TV Wonder VE
[01:30] <mnault> oh
[01:30] <mnault> Well
[01:30] <emgee> How do I change the font size of the boot-time console text? (or rather, all consol tty's text sizes at all times)
[01:31] <cribbon> i got an intel mobile graphic card, opengl is working poor, what driver should i use and is there a good page where i can find howto's and such things?
[01:31] <mnault> I have the same card jron
[01:31] <spiderworm> hi all, i just upgraded my mythtv ubuntu hoary box to ubuntu breezy, it appears to have gone well, mythbackend is running, but i cant start the frontend because it complains that the theme Iulius is missing.... anyone know what package i might find the theme in, or what config file i can use to set it back to the default theme?
[01:32] <mnault> I had to get a capture card "bttv"
[01:32] <FunnyLookinHat> Is there a way to disable power management for laptops besides the advanced options under screensaver?
[01:32] <jron> mnault, did you have any problem getting it working with tvtime?
[01:33] <erUSUL> cribbon, afaik there is no 3d hw acc for intel cards. i may be wrong though
[01:33] <mnault> no
[01:33] <stelki_>   jh'
[01:33] <stelki_> sorryj m
[01:33] <stelki_> y
[01:33] <stelki_> sorry mt
[01:33] <jron> what file passes options to modules? as modules.conf does not exist in ubuntu like it does gentoo
[01:34] <cribbon> erUSUL, i810, i830 and i900 ?
[01:34] <mnault> I have Ati and Bttv...They work together....My "bttv" card captures while ati didplays
[01:34] <Mars> Hi
[01:34] <cribbon> erUSUL, the problem is i got the driver working... a bit. But the opengl is not fully functional, i can get around 600fps with glxgears :/
[01:35] <mike998> I have a problem with my wireless networking : I can't get it up and running.
[01:35] <Mars> I wrote  shutdown -h 5:30
[01:35] <Mars>  is it a right comand?
[01:35] <jron> can i simply creat a modules.conf file for ubuntu to parse for module options? from what i hear, /etc/modules just loads the modules and doens't pass any options to them....
[01:35] <StR> Hi all
[01:35] <mnault> To save config...Everytime i start tvtime, had to save config in setup
[01:35] <StR> any repository to firefox 1.5?
[01:35] <mike998> I know that's not really helpful, but I have tried the wifi-radar applet and have no security on this thing and still can't get connected to wireless
[01:35] <erUSUL> cribbon, i do not know google a bit
[01:35] <hyphenated> mike998: what does iwconfig say?
[01:36] <mike998> iwlist wlan0 scan picks up both networks (mine and my neighbours)
[01:36] <hyphenated> mike998: check the first line on the appropriate network device, and if it says unassociated, then you're still on step 1 :-)
[01:36] <mike998> nope - it says IEEE 802.11g
[01:37] <mnault> i forget what file you got to write to make the config saved....I'm on another computer....
[01:37] <hyphenated> ok, so it associated. good. does it use DHCP or static?
[01:37] <mike998> ohhh
[01:38] <adri> hi all, i try to read a "wma" file but i havent got the codec... which key word have i to enter in synaptic to find the codec??
[01:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell adri about w32codecs
[01:38] <felipe_> win32codecs
[01:38] <nalioth> adri: not in the repos, read your ubotu mail
[01:38] <gianlucash> how can I install mp3 codec?
[01:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gianlucash about mp3
[01:39] <erUSUL> !mp3
[01:39] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[01:39] <mnault> is there a "super user" command?
[01:39] <apokryphos> !root
[01:39] <ubotu> [root]  disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:39] <adri> thank you ;)
[01:39] <mnault> su?
[01:39] <apokryphos> mnault: read that article
[01:39] <apokryphos> or wiki entry, rather
[01:39] <GMachine_24> where can i find which firewire cards are compatible with ubuntu? thank you.
[01:39] <Inchabod> How can I add files to a NTFS slave harddrive?
[01:40] <mnault> su-thanks
[01:40] <Inchabod> It's already mounted.
[01:40] <gTool-Kit> Hey guys
[01:40] <gianlucash> thank you :)
[01:40] <mustard5> Inchabod, in general terms linux can't write to ntfs
[01:40] <mike_998> hyphenated: dude, just tell me next time top RTFMan Pages
[01:40] <mike_998> Sigh
[01:40] <Inchabod> mustard5, How can I change general terms?
[01:40] <Inchabod> lol
[01:40] <gTool-Kit> does anyone know if the Linksys WPC54G wireless adapter works out of the box with ubuntu?
[01:40] <mustard5> Inchabod, buy software that does the job :)
[01:41] <hyphenated> mike_998: is it working now?
[01:41] <|meheren|> when i put a floppy into my floppy drive it does not appear do i have to install a driver for it to appear or something
[01:41] <|meheren|> ?
[01:41] <mustard5> Inchabod, or set up a vfat partition to put stuff on..then transfer from vfat to ntfs in windows
[01:41] <mike_998> yeah, I did a sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid THENEST
[01:41] <mike_998> and bing
[01:41] <mike_998> o
[01:41] <Inchabod> will that hurt my files?
[01:41] <gTool-Kit> |meheren|, you have to manually mount floppy drives under linux
[01:41] <mike_998> now let's see if adding a key will work
[01:41] <Inchabod> I got like 30gb of files on that hd.
[01:41] <|meheren|> ok
[01:41] <|meheren|> how?
[01:41] <hyphenated> mike_998: personally, I configure things with the network-admin tool
[01:41] <mustard5> Inchabod, will what hurt your files?
[01:41] <gTool-Kit> im not sure the best way in ubuntu :p
[01:42] <|meheren|> oh
[01:42] <mustard5> Inchabod, repartitioning your drive?
[01:42] <Inchabod> Yeah
[01:42] <gTool-Kit> are you using the gnome or kde version?
[01:42] <mike_998> hyphenated: I tried, but the darn thing didn't work
[01:42] <hyphenated> mike_998: one thing that sucks tho.. configuring WPA is not very pretty right now
[01:42] <|meheren|> how would u in like debian or something?
[01:42] <|meheren|> then i could work from there
[01:42] <mustard5> Inchabod, there is always potential for that yes...so backup before repartitioning
[01:42] <hyphenated> so you'll probably end up using WEP, the older, less secure one
[01:42] <Inchabod> Hmm oh well I think i'll just not back up these songs.
[01:42] <Inchabod> Because it's my biggest hd
[01:42] <Inchabod> with all the files.
[01:42] <gTool-Kit> under debian, i think the directory is /mnt/floppy, so you would type as root: mount /mnt/floppy
[01:43] <mustard5> Inchabod, you got an external usb device of some kind?
[01:43] <gTool-Kit> could be /floppy tho
[01:43] <|meheren|> ok thx
[01:43] <hyphenated> I chose MAC based restrictions at home, rather than any other funkiness
[01:43] <mustard5> Inchabod, you could get an external usb drive formatted in vfat
[01:43] <|meheren|> ubuntu is sorta like debian so it should be rather close
[01:43] <Inchabod> mustard5, Probably a flash drive
[01:43] <Inchabod> nothing big.
[01:43] <mustard5> Inchabod, k..well thats the state of affairs anyway :)
[01:43] <chakall> k
[01:44] <gTool-Kit> |meheren|, well, ubuntu IS debian but they changed a lot, and i havent used debian in a while but it was my primary distro for like 3 years :p
[01:44] <mike__998> hyphenated: Yeah, so I hear... I am gonna stick with WEP for now
[01:44] <GMachine_24> ok... any help on the firewire compatible cards.......??
[01:44] <chakall> hi guys, some one know how to login as a root in the unbuntu?
[01:44] <GMachine_24> uhm.
[01:44] <GMachine_24> is that a trick question chakall
[01:45] <mustard5> Inchabod, the reasons why are a bit long winded to go into here of course :)
[01:45] <XTR> Hi. What's a good gui ftp client for Ubuntu?
[01:45] <mike__998> XTR gftp
[01:45] <gTool-Kit> XTR, gFtp has always been my favorite :)
[01:45] <jron> does anyone know what file gets parsed to pass module args/options ? in most distros the file is modules.conf..... (/etc/modules) is not the correct file, that just loads modules, not options...
[01:45] <|meheren|> ok
[01:46] <jack-> make sure to use the mod that supports auth tls
[01:46] <|meheren|> ubuntu is debian with a x decktop or whatever they call it right?
[01:46] <jack-> otherwise, get iglooftp-pro
[01:46] <mike__998> now - here is the biggie
[01:46] <chakall> ok, I want to change my aptitude source to install some package, I am new on this linux think and my user password is not working as a root
[01:46] <chakall> source.list
[01:46] <mike__998> when I reboot I have to do another "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" - does anyone have any idea WHY it's not saving the module after I reboot?
[01:47] <trinidad> help!!!
[01:47] <gTool-Kit> |meheren|, nope, ubuntu is debian with little suttle changes, like their name is plastered every where
[01:47] <hyphenated> mike__998: did you specify it in /etc/modules ?
[01:47] <trinidad> gaim/kopete/amsn wont connect as of 8:00am this morning.  It is now 4:45pm and I still can't connect
[01:47] <|meheren|> debian has a interacuall descktop?
[01:47] <trinidad> anyone hear of anything?
[01:47] <mike__998> hyphenated: let me check
[01:48] <trinidad> anyone>?
[01:48] <|meheren|> gTool-Kit: does debian have a interacuall descktop or whatever with icons and all
[01:49] <mike__998> let me try a reboot
[01:49] <|meheren|> i thought that debian was all command line
[01:49] <trinidad> |meheren|, yes
[01:49] <|meheren|> oh ok
[01:49] <gTool-Kit> |meheren|, all linux can use linux based software, period.
[01:49] <|meheren|> yeh
[01:49] <gTool-Kit> you can put Gnome or KDE on debian if you like
[01:50] <trinidad> |meheren|, try out Ubuntu Linux
[01:50] <bsharitt> does any one think they can help me make ubuntu useful on a lap top?
[01:50] <trinidad> anyone know why amsn or gaim wont connect to networks anymore?
[01:51] <|meheren|> how should i mount a floppy in ubuntu?
[01:51] <trinidad> bsharitt,
[01:51] <trinidad> whats the app you need it for?
[01:51] <gianlucash> guys, I'm using FlashFXP in wine
[01:51] <gianlucash> but on all FTPs I've got this
[01:51] <anto9us> trinidad, my gaim is connected to msn
[01:51] <gianlucash> LIST
[01:51] <gianlucash> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
[01:51] <gianlucash> 426 Data connection closed, transfer aborted.
[01:51] <|meheren|> i typed "mount floppy" but it said can not find floppy
[01:51] <gianlucash> on all :(
[01:51] <trinidad> !!! anto9us, can you help me troubleshoot my system then?
[01:51] <ubotu> trinidad: I haven't a clue
[01:52] <|meheren|> gTool-Kit, how do u mount a floppy in debian?
[01:52] <gianlucash> why? there are no problem of the network, I'm using a router and from other PCs is everything allright
[01:52] <anto9us> trinidad, how long as it not been working for?
[01:52] <gTool-Kit> |meheren|, man mount
[01:52] <gTool-Kit> :p
[01:52] <trinidad> just today anto9us
[01:52] <bsharitt> I'm trying to set up the wireless on my laptop, but the only way I can get it too contect is by disabling all the security.
[01:52] <bsharitt> So now I'm running a open WAP, which I'd rather not
[01:52] <chakall> my anjuta says that I need 'autoconf' package to complie but I couldn't find such package for Ubuntu
[01:53] <trinidad> bsharitt, what apps are you referring to when you say security and what version of linux are you using?
[01:53] <anto9us> trinidad, sometimes the servers get a bit funny with other clients, wait and see what it's like
[01:53] <trinidad> anto9us, will do, maybe tomorrow i will have it up and running
[01:53] <anto9us> trinidad, it previously connected, yes?
[01:54] <trinidad> yes anto9us
[01:54] <anto9us> trinidad, yeah, I'd wait
[01:54] <bsharitt> I'm using Ubutnu 5.10. When I have WEP turned on on my router, Ubuntu can't connect. And it can't conect when I dissable the ssid
[01:55] <wezlo> evening all, is anyone having a problem with breezy and a laptop fan?
[01:55] <trinidad> anto9us:  cool bud thanks for advice
[01:55] <trinidad> you configure ubuntu wireless yet bsharitt?
[01:56] <bsharitt> Yes, I've been trying that, but the only time I get it to connect is when I disable all security measures on my router
[01:57] <wezlo> bsharitt, what chipset do you have for wireless?
[01:57] <trinidad> bsharitt, check out this post ::::>http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2260<::::
[01:57] <httpdss> bsharitt: paste your /etc/network/interfaces somewhere (with WEP on)
[01:57] <bsharitt> ipw2200bg
[01:57] <wezlo> hmmm
[01:57] <mc|amb> help, when i --> sudo umount *** it says that *** is busy and i'm not doing anything.. what do I have to do to unmount it???
[01:58] <anto9us> bsharitt, is your wep a passphrase or hex key? if it's passphrase then prefix it with s:
[01:58] <httpdss> mc|amb: you are standing on the mounted folder
[01:58] <mc|amb> httpdss; nope
[01:59] <anto9us> bsharitt, on client side, that is
[01:59] <meheren> finally i got kicked off the other computer i was loged in as
[01:59] <httpdss> mc|amb:check consoles...
[01:59] <bsharitt> I tried the passphrase and the hex key, let me try the passphase with the s:
[01:59] <mc|amb> httpdss: im pretty sure i'm not in the folder
[02:00] <mc|amb> httpdss: it keeps saying that the device is busy
[02:00] <trinidad> anto9us, just for $@its and grins, can you ping messenger.hotmail.com and get a response?
[02:00] <httpdss> bsharitt: there will be no passphrase if you dont add the s:
[02:00] <wezlo> bsharit how are you setting the passphrase?
[02:01] <anto9us> trinidad, no response
[02:01] <hawking> does anyone know the command to change the keyboard language?
[02:01] <trinidad> hmm, i wonder who you are connected to then anto9us
[02:02] <mc|amb> httpdss: when i try to mount-->umount other shares they work fine, its only this one that doesn't want to shut down
[02:02] <emgee> Major problem: My upgrade to Breezy halted when it got to /var/cache/apt/archives/libarkrpgc2_0.1.4b-6ubuntu4_i386.deb ...
[02:03] <mc|amb> httpdss: is it safe to restart the computer without unmounting the shares??
[02:03] <emgee> Stuff won't start, apt-get -f install halts at the same place and apt-get remove arkrpg doesn't work either..
[02:03] <ssdd534> i need some help on sudo... i keep gettin a error about "unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()"
[02:03] <ssdd534> any ideas
[02:04] <occy> 12 hours until I do Ironman Florida -- http://occy.net/node/148 -- http://ironmanflorida.com/
[02:04] <occy> :)
[02:04] <httpdss> mc|amb:depends ... sometime when you copy a file to floppy, it doesnt really copy it untill u unmount it ..
[02:04] <occy> crimsun, you here?
[02:04] <anto9us> trinidad,  I'd tell you but netstat is truncating the foreign address, I'm looking into it's options now
[02:05] <trinidad> anto9us, gotcha
[02:05] <trinidad> im going to try in windows and be right back
[02:05] <trinidad> ttyl
[02:05] <ssdd534> i need some help on sudo... i keep gettin a error about "unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()" any ideas?
[02:06] <mc|amb> httpdss; and if the mount is a network share?
[02:06] <httpdss> mc|amb:i think ubuntu unmounts them for you, really don know... ... <<--- CORRECT ME PLZ IF IM WRONG ..
[02:07] <basic`> anyone here good with eclipse? swt? have it all working under breezy? let me know, because i cant get swt to work
[02:08] <mc|amb> simple question:::: how do I start gnome from the command line??
[02:08] <basic`> startx
[02:08] <bungle> rver irc.set-top.net
[02:08] <basic`> as long as it is set in your ~/.xinitrc
[02:08] <bungle> :O shame
[02:08] <httpdss> mc|amb: dont know about net mounts... try unmounting without sudo
[02:08] <gianlucash> can anybody suggest a good mp3 player? (something like winamp...)
[02:09] <basic`> gianlucash: beep-media-player
[02:09] <bsharitt_> okay I tried to connect with the passphrase and put the s: infront of it, but still nothing
[02:09] <hangfire> hello
[02:09] <auk> hello
[02:09] <bungle> hello
[02:09] <basic`> guys i really need help with java/swt/eclipse, this project is due in 6 hours and i cant test to see if it works or not
[02:09] <mc|amb> httpdss: thanks, its a matter of time till i figure it out
[02:10] <bsharitt_> the /etc/network/interfaces wireless section looks like this iface eth1 inet dhcp
[02:10] <bsharitt_> wireless-essid Mushroom Kingdom
[02:10] <bsharitt_> wireless-key s:s:blue42
[02:10] <hangfire> are you running ecliple on ubuntu?
[02:10] <gianlucash> thank you basic`
[02:10] <basic`> hangfire: well kubuntu, but yea, breezy
[02:11] <httpdss> bsharitt_: that double s: is wrong
[02:11] <basic`> it all works, like everything works, i can compile hello world and stuff
[02:11] <basic`> BUT i dont have swt support
[02:11] <basic`> and i need it to build a gui
[02:11] <httpdss> bsharitt_: set the channel
[02:11] <basic`> it wont let me import java.swt.Graphics;
[02:11] <emgee> I changed hoary to breezy in my apt sourceslist for an upgrade, but now everything's a mess due to "/var/cache/apt/archives/libarkrpgc2_0.1.4b-6ubuntu4_i386.deb".
[02:11] <emgee> Can I remove that from the list of stuff waiting for upgrade?
[02:11] <humbolt> is the latest openoffice version already available for breezy?
[02:12] <basic`> it comes with it, i believe
[02:12] <ColD_7> anyone have installed realplayer10? i wonder if i have get it installed correctly cause i can't open it
[02:12] <bsharitt_> Well when I select it as plain text I think it puts the s:. but even with just one it is still broken
[02:12] <mshade> anyone help me with dualhead issuse?
[02:12] <mshade> issues
[02:12] <humbolt> I just find the rc3 version or such.
[02:12] <kazuya> hello
[02:12] <bsharitt_> By the way, with all the security disabled on the router, it works fine
[02:12] <nicoal> ColD_7, can you run realplayer from command line?
[02:12] <humbolt> is the final available?
[02:12] <ColD_7> not sure
[02:12] <Nihil85> Hi to everyone
[02:12] <ColD_7> but i cant open it from application
[02:13] <gianlucash> basic`, I've got it, but even if i got mp3 codec, I can't play mp3
[02:13] <nicoal> ColD_7, open a terminal, and type in realplayer, and see if it gives any errors
[02:13] <hangfire> I dont see how it cant import that, thats the main class for java, this might sound rude (to many here) but maybe you should run it on winXP
[02:13] <Nihil85> i have to install Ubuntu into my laptop
[02:13] <felipe_> mustard5, I've been hours trying to make the nvidia work with the 686 kernel with no luck, I give up
[02:13] <kazuya> hello everyone
[02:13] <gianlucash> I've been in the codec list of beep media player and there isn't
[02:13] <ColD_7> i type in realplayer and it shows command not found
[02:13] <nicoal> ColD_7, how did you install it?
[02:14] <ColD_7> based on the help
[02:14] <bsharitt_> How do I dissable the thing that makes tapping the trackpad act like a mouse click. This is very annoying
[02:14] <mustard5> felipe_, ok...thanks for replying...I have same problem
[02:14] <Nihil85> but i see three partitions instead of two: hda1 is Compaq diagnostic (even if the laptop is Acer). hda2 is a primary fat32 and hda5 is a logical fat32.
[02:14] <mustard5> felipe_, I'm not really needing it atm so its not a high on my priority list
[02:14] <Nihil85> when i was in windows i couldn't see hda1
[02:14] <httpdss> bsharitt_: i think the problem is on the essid .. try quotes .. "Mushroom Kingdom"
[02:14] <nicoal> bsharitt_, check out the /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and comment out the line under the touchpad section (unless there's a "ubuntu way" to do it)
[02:14] <ColD_7> nicoal, i mean the help that comes with the ubuntu
[02:15] <bsharitt_> I'm using that same ssid right now.
[02:15] <felipe_> mustard5, me neither I just wanted to have the 686 kernel working with the nvidia, the 386 works fine.
[02:15] <kazuya> my computer bootup uptime on breezy ubuntu is like 5 minutes. Any way around this. I am on XP AMD athlon 2200 512 RAM. What is BUM, does that help?
[02:15] <yanqi> hi
[02:15] <Nihil85> felipe_, are you the one from italy?
[02:15] <mustard5> yeah, you tried the drivers from nvidia site?
[02:15] <bungle> touchpads are for touching
[02:15] <mustard5> felipe_,  yeah, you tried the drivers from nvidia site?
[02:15] <nicoal> ColD_7, did you use ubuntuguide.org?
[02:15] <felipe_> Nihil85, No I'm from Chili
[02:16] <Nihil85> ok felipe_
[02:16] <ColD_7> i don't use that
[02:16] <LjL> well, i'm from italy
[02:16] <httpdss> bsharitt_: whick same
[02:16] <felipe_> mustard5, Yup I compiled the module for the kernel, I've tried everything....
[02:16] <ColD_7> i just use the ubuntu5.10 guide that is installed in the ubuntu
[02:16] <hangfire> I downloaded this program to my home directory and I want to install it, what location should I extract it too?
[02:16] <httpdss> s/whick/which/g
[02:16] <|meheren|> i installed debian command line is there any way to get like gnome or something?
[02:16] <yanqi> i've just made a network-install, finished to install the base system and rebooted, but now i get a prompt. someone knows if there's a way to finalize the install process ?
[02:16] <gianlucash> !mp3
[02:16] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[02:17] <bsharitt_> I'm using the same ssid as the /etc/network/interfaces file I posted a minute ago, but with WEP turned off
[02:17] <iratsu> what should i use to stream music online?
[02:17] <|meheren|> can i convert my debian command line to interacuall (plz someone tell me what it is calle
[02:17] <|meheren|> d
[02:17] <nicoal> ColD_7, I don't have my ubuntu machine in front of me at the moment, but you can either check in synaptic to install realplayer, or type in "sudo apt-get install realplayer", without the quotes, in a terminal
[02:17] <LjL> by the way, i suppose there isn't a way to losslessly convert from mp3 to ogg -- or at least to convert "less lossly" than if you went through a PCM file?
[02:17] <ColD_7> ok
[02:17] <|meheren|> its su
[02:17] <ColD_7> i will try
[02:17] <|meheren|> type pass
[02:18] <kazuya> what services require disabling for faster bootup.
[02:18] <|meheren|> then type atp-get install realplayer
[02:18] <kazuya> I have tried removing update time ntp
[02:18] <LjL> type aptitude install realplayer, apt-get is evil
[02:18] <|meheren|> lol
[02:19] <LjL> i mean, realplayer is evil too, so you shouldn't install it in the first place :P
[02:19] <felipe_> mustard5, btw do you know how to uninstall de custom driver I just installed? Im thinking that when there is an upgrade in sinaptic I'll have troubles upgrading the nvidia drivers...
[02:19] <|meheren|> yes that is true
[02:19] <nicoal> let's not hate on realplayer ;)
[02:19] <Dasnipa`> xmms
[02:19] <Nihil85> i have to install Ubuntu into my laptop, but i see three partitions instead of two: hda1 is a primary Compaq diagnostic (even if the laptop is Acer). hda2 is a primary fat32 and hda5 is a logical fat32. The problem is that in hda5 there are 160mb of SYSTEM VOLUME INFORMATION. inside this folder there are many rp<#> folders. Restore Point 128, 130, 140, etc. There are also the change.log files. What should i do with these files?
[02:19] <LjL> it's not my fault that it deserves hate
[02:20] <httpdss> what does ... iwlist scan ... say ??
[02:20] <emgee> Why is perl trying to use locale:  LANGUAGE = "en_SE:en" ?? Isn't that very wrong?
[02:20] <httpdss> bsharitt_: that question was for you .. :P
[02:21] <mustard5> felipe_, I am not sure how you uninstall them
[02:21] <LjL> bah... just because i told Ubuntu that i live in italy, it's been trying to spell out stuff in italian... locales really should be made to work or exterminated :P
[02:21] <gianlucash> !Mp3
[02:21] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[02:21] <hangfire> I got this linux.run file for a program, how do I install it?
[02:21] <felipe_> mustard5, I'll worry when the time comes then
[02:21] <propagandhi> Nihil85: are you planning on a dual boot system
[02:21] <mustard5> felipe_, maybe nvidia site has instructions I don't know
[02:22] <mustard5> felipe_, k
[02:22] <Nihil85> propagandhi, yes
[02:22] <propagandhi> and are u already have a windows installation
[02:22] <mustard5> felipe_, I'll give it all a go one day and if I spot you I'll tell you how I went :)
[02:22] <Nihil85> propagandhi, yes
[02:22] <propagandhi> *do you i meant
[02:22] <felipe_> mustard5, Ok, thanks
[02:22] <nicoal> hangfire, which program? usually .run's can just be executed by typing sh <filename.run>
[02:22] <propagandhi> and you want to keep that windows installation
[02:22] <hangfire> its wings3D an open source 3D program
[02:23] <nicoal> hangfire, but it might cause trouble with the ubuntu package system... in case it overwrites files... perhaps installing it in /opt would be a good idea
[02:23] <propagandhi> Nihil85: which partition is windows installed in - hda2?
[02:23] <Nihil85> propagandhi, yes
[02:23] <propagandhi> or hda5
[02:24] <hangfire> thanks for that info big time, I just installed ubuntu an hour ago, that would be a bad way to start off, thx
[02:24] <Nihil85> propagandhi, windows is installed in hda2
[02:24] <emgee> err... I ran "aptitude remove arkrpg" since it was in the way of my breezy update, and now straange things are happening in that terminal window..
[02:24] <Nihil85> propagandhi, can we talk in private?
[02:24] <emgee> Would that command make the update to continue from where it stopped?
[02:24] <propagandhi> Nihil85: yes
[02:24] <nicoal> hangfire, you might want to check if it's already got a .deb package first, too
[02:24] <hangfire> ok, Ill check there site, thanks nicoal, appreciate it
[02:24] <nicoal> hangfire, in which case, you can just apt-get install wings3d
[02:24] <nicoal> hangfire, np
[02:25] <hawking> my alt button on the keyboard is not functioning.. what should i do?
[02:25] <_jason> hawking:  both?
[02:27] <OrionBerlin> Hey Guys
[02:27] <OrionBerlin> Does anyone know where i can get automake 1.9.6
[02:27] <OrionBerlin> Ubuntu Breezy got an really old version >_<
[02:28] <Sourceror> :<
[02:28] <nicoal> OrionBerlin, gnu.org ?
[02:28] <OrionBerlin> automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6
[02:28] <hangfire> nicoal- what is the universe repository? The add apps feature says wings is not installable but available in the universe repository
[02:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hangfire about repos
[02:29] <nalioth> hangfire: enable universe and multiverse
[02:30] <hangfire> are you sure universe is totally compatable with the debian repository (like I know what Im talking about lol)
[02:30] <nicoal> hangfire, universe is a collection of "extra" stuff.. there's a better description of it here ---> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components/document_view
[02:30] <Sourceror> OrionBerlin, I found automake 1.9 with synaptic :D
[02:31] <OrionBerlin> Sourceror, yea just saw it too some seconds ago now :P
[02:31] <beniamino> what's the right way to start esound as a daemon? the esound packages don't provide a /etc/init.d/esound script afaict
[02:31] <AudioMove> is their an option in Gnome to turn on and off spatial browsing in ubuntu?
[02:32] <bobbyd> hi
[02:32] <hangfire> ok reading that link now, thx nicoal
[02:32] <Sourceror> OK, now that I find out I have funky old automake, how do I find out what other stuff I have is funky and old?
[02:32] <bobbyd> has anyone ever had a problem where remote ssh sessions stop working after 3-5 seconds of activity? it's driving me nuts!
[02:32] <bobbyd> Sourceror, use synaptic to tell you what's upgradable
[02:33] <cianci> does anyone know the command to delete a whole directory?
[02:33] <bobbyd> cianci, rm -fr
[02:33] <cianci> thanks
[02:33] <Sourceror> It didn't tell me automake was upgradeable >.<
[02:33] <nicoal> cianci, just be careful ;)
[02:33] <cianci> ok :-)
[02:33] <gordon> I'm only given a single option in the resolution control panel, and it is not my display's resolution. Anyone know what's up, or how to change it manually?
[02:33] <bobbyd> Sourceror, that's because one version doesn't completely replace the other, different things rely on different versions
[02:34] <Niomi> gordon, edit /X11/xorg.conf.. details on getting it to work with my resolution are in this thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18324
[02:34] <bobbyd> gordon: you need to exit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and enter your monitor's horizontal refresh rate correctly. You can find that in the manula or by googling for the model of your monitor
[02:35] <Niomi> gordon, you can probably look at that example and change it to suit you accordingly
[02:35] <gordon> I'll give a look, thanks
[02:36] <Niomi> i can't seem to get my laptop and desktop networked properly with nfs or somba, can you guys recomend a tutorial/howto that worked for you? thanks for your time
[02:37] <odat> how do i setup multiple users in evolution
[02:38] <davidpelaez> Hello Everyone.
[02:38] <ibrasil> someone configured two monitors with an ati card?
[02:38] <odat> ?
[02:38] <Niomi> !ubotu
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[02:39] <nicoal> odat, why not just set up two separate users?
[02:39] <Aven> !ubotu
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[02:39] <davidpelaez> I'm installing jre5....When i type "fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin" as normal it says me that i should be root. when i do it as root, it says me that i should become non-root user in order to avoid system damage. how can I run this command then? It says that dh_testroot says that i have to be root but i do not know how to disable dh_testroot or what to do
[02:40] <davidpelaez> anyone knows?
[02:40] <Sourceror> I'm a bot too :(
[02:40] <nicoal> Niomi, this is a good start, but not nearly comprehensive --> http://www.samba.netfirms.com/faq.htm
[02:40] <odat> nicoal, that is what i want to do and i have setup to email account but when i click on send and recieve it checks both emails and puts them in the same folder i want to be able to switch user then check that individual users email
[02:41] <davidpelaez> i don do know how to run the command if i can not make it as root nor as normal user
[02:41] <nicoal> odat, oops, I meant system users, would that work for you?
[02:42] <odat> hmmm i guess so
[02:42] <nicoal> davidpelaez, did you try sudo?
[02:44] <mloskot> Is anybody there using WiFi on 64 bit CPU (Acer Aspire) ?
[02:44] <davidpelaez> i'll try, hold a sec
[02:44] <mloskot> I can not find any info/wiki related to 64 bit problems.
[02:44] <nicoal> mloskot, what card/chipset?
[02:45] <Nihil85> hello. i need a help: i'm editing the partition table with cfdisk. i have to choose the type of a partition, but i cannot see EXT3. what's its name in fcdisk?
[02:45] <mloskot> nicoal: i don't know yet, seems I have to reboot to window$ to get those details.
[02:45] <nicoal> mloskot, what model number is it?
[02:45] <mloskot> nicoal: Acer Aspire 5021
[02:46] <mloskot> nicoal: lspci gives me this: 0000:06:05.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4318 (rev 02)
[02:46] <mloskot> nicoal: is this supposed to be WLAN device?
[02:46] <nicoal> mloskot, ick... broadcom... ndiswrapper is the only solution with those things, and I'm not too sure about its status on 64 bit yet... lemme do some searching real quick
[02:48] <nicoal> mloskot, check out http://yuri.at/go/amd64/ and see if that works.. I don't have a 64bit machine, so I couldn't really help much besides pointing you in the direction of ndiswrapper
[02:49] <davidpelaez> i've tried, the error disappeared but this command is suposed to create a deb in order to install java run times. but this creates northings, it says something about a temporary folder and no more.
[02:49] <mloskot> nicoal: here is my cat /proc/pci
[02:49] <mloskot> http://rafb.net/paste/results/OlTqgN46.html
[02:49] <mloskot> nicoal: Thanks, I'm going to check the website you gave.
[02:49] <mshade> why doesn't glxgears give the FPS output in ubuntu?
[02:49] <aeon17x> mshade: Because it's not a benchmarking program.
[02:50] <James> I can't burn CD's on Breezy (or Hoary).  It simply says that the effort failed.  (Hoary used to give me an error message.)  Does anyone have any advice?
[02:50] <mshade> aeon17x: that's fine, i know that.  But it gives fps output in every other distro i've tried..
[02:50] <aeon17x> mshade: glxgears --printfps
[02:50] <mshade> aeon17x: it's a decent general indicator.
[02:50] <aeon17x> And wait
[02:50] <mshade> aeon17x: Warrning: unknown parameter: --printfps
[02:51] <aeon17x> Whoops, that should only be one dash.
[02:51] <mshade> aeon17x: perfect, thanks :)
[02:52] <unforcer> hmmp.. why does make menuconfig give messed up menus?
[02:52] <nimai> hi, i've just installed ubuntu on a centrino laptop with wireless networking, i can ping outside websites and connect to my router but no data is transferred, so when i go to a site in my browser, nothing happens
[02:54] <unforcer> nimai if nothing happens your browser is messed up.. :) but if got an error... :)
[02:54] <davidpelaez> it's not workind, how can i generate a deb using sun's bin????
[02:54] <davidpelaez> i've got jre 5 but "fakeroot make-jpkg..." is not working
[02:54] <nimai> i dont think i'm getting any proper outside connections, like ubuntu doesn't sync with the network clock server on startup
[02:54] <davidpelaez> anynoe can help me
[02:56] <K_Dallas> davidpelaez, i recall that on #debian they had a few lines to guide you thru. ask there but dont mention you use ubuntu ;)
[02:56] <James> I've tried looking on the forums for this CD burner issue, but nothing seems to fit the problem
[02:56] <K_Dallas> !tell K_Dallas about java
[02:56] <K_Dallas> !tell davidpelaez  about java
[02:57] <Niomi> thanks ~ :D anyone want to recomend some good documentations on nfs also?
[02:57] <James> !tell James about java
[02:57] <nicoal> Niomi, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Share_Directories_via_NFS :)
[02:57] <Sourceror> :o
[02:58] <DylanRE> Hey guys, does Ubuntu have any sort of "package getting" program (like apt-get in debian. Sorry for my Linux illiteracy, I'm new to Linux)
[02:58] <nicoal> DylanRE, ubuntu is based on debian, so it has apt-get :)
[02:58] <K_Dallas> DylanRE, have you looked into your ubuntu?
[02:58] <K_Dallas> or you have not installed it yet?
[02:59] <Niomi> nicoal, awesome :D what do i use in place of emerge, apt-get?
[02:59] <DylanRE> Nicoal: Thanks. K_Dallas: About to install. Soon as my image is done downloading.
[02:59] <gordon> Hmm, I still cannot get the resolution switcher to offer my native resolution...
[02:59] <K_Dallas> apt-get , synaptic for gui
[02:59] <DylanRE> I had no idea it was based on debian, haha
[02:59] <nicoal> Niomi, yep, that should do it
[02:59] <K_Dallas> ubuntu is way easier to install as it recognizes more hardwares
[03:00] <Niomi> nicoal, thank you :D
[03:00] <nicoal> Niomi, no prob
[03:00] <Niomi> DylanRE, it seems from my point of view (but i'm a newbie) that most if not a significant number of distros are debian based
[03:00] <K_Dallas> Niomi, you are actually right
[03:01] <davidpelaez> ok, thank u
[03:01] <DylanRE> Niomi: It seems so, but from what I've been reading, not all of them have package-retrieving systems as simple as "apt-get"
[03:03] <holycow> !java
[03:03] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[03:03] <Niomi> DylanRE, i have _read_, that although emerge is harder to work with, in theory it would be supirior because everything is compiled uniquely for the system.. but it would also be ideal for everyone to build their OS from the ground up, so I don't know how relivant that is
[03:04] <Niomi> holycow, there is a script called automatix that installs java and a few other nice applications automatically.
[03:04] <DylanRE> Niomi: What you're saying makes sense, but I don't know too much about emerge.
[03:05] <jonny> how do you play a .zip movie?
[03:05] <nicoal> jonny, unzip it ;)
[03:05] <Dasnipa`> jonny, you need to unzip it first there is no such thing as a .zip movie
[03:05] <jonny> that means extract, right?
[03:05] <httpdss> jonny: try unzipping it first :P
[03:06] <holycow> Niomi, *nod* someone just gave me a factoid about an hour ago for java 1.5jre deb files ... *hmmm* can't remember the factoid
[03:06] <holycow> !jre
[03:06] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, holycow
[03:06] <mloskot> Where should I submit my Feature Request (GNOME menu related)?
[03:06] <anto9us> !java
[03:06] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[03:06] <httpdss> jonny: man unzip
[03:06] <holycow> anto9us, thats not it, it tells you to install 1.5 via sun installer
[03:06] <Niomi> DylanRE, neither do I. a very silly friend of mine recomended gentoo for a newbie, i don't know whether he was clueless or playing a practical joke. i was quite intimidated by trying to install that 'newbie friendly' distro..
[03:06] <holycow> thats just wrong, i want a deb file
[03:07] <jonny> okay, how do you unzip?
[03:07] <crisco> is there a way to look up all the lil stuff one would want to do to this system-sort of like ubuntu for dummies
[03:07] <Dasnipa`> run unzip on it...
[03:07] <nicoal> crisco, check out ubuntuguide.org
[03:07] <crisco> thanx
[03:08] <Dasnipa`> there cant/shouldnt be a ubuntu for dummies... linux isnt for dummies windows is
[03:08] <Agrajag> !ubuntuguide
[03:08] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[03:08] <James> !faq
[03:08] <ubotu> The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation, or http://help.ubuntu.com
[03:08] <nicoal> Agrajag, ah.. woops.. good call
[03:08] <Niomi> jonny,  right click on the zip and left click on 'open in archive manager'
[03:09] <James> whoa I cannot launch my help icon!
[03:09] <James> "Details: Failed to execute child process "yelp" (No such file or directory)"
[03:09] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I have GCC 4.0 installed, but when I try to compile Linuxants HSF Modem driver, the error it gives is gcc version 3.4.5 or similar is required to compile modules for your kernel
[03:09] <FujiHOST> Hey in Terminal what command do i use to launch Xwine
[03:09] <Agrajag> Biscuitian_Warhe: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[03:09] <jonny> Niomi: okay, then?
[03:10] <Agrajag> You may need to set $CC to point to /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 for the compilation
[03:10] <holycow> nalioth, what is that bot factoid you brought up today regarding the installation of java 1.5 jre files from deb packages?
[03:10] <Niomi> jonny, click the icon with the tooltip that says 'extract files from the archive'
[03:11] <Biscuitian_Warhe> FujiHOST: wine foo.exe
[03:11] <jonny> Niomi: hmm...dont see it
[03:11] <jonny> ah, got it
[03:11] <darknature> hmm how do you install a program that uses 2 discs on Wine
[03:11] <Biscuitian_Warhe> If im right, Cedega is just more .dlls that can run DX commands
[03:11] <Niomi> jonny, try edit > extract
[03:12] <mbb> how do I tell ubuntu-LIVE not to use the existing swap partition (want to move/resize some partitions, using gparted)?
[03:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell holycow about javadeb
[03:12] <holycow> nalioth, you rock :)
[03:12] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How come my internet connection always disconnects at 60.5 minutes?
[03:12] <Agrajag> mbb: you can turn off a swap space using swapoff any time
[03:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell holycow about yourself
[03:12] <mbb> Agrajag: thanks - that was too easy!
[03:12] <jonny> Niomi: hmm...i c that now, but totem still cant play it, maybe the file is corrupt
[03:13] <FarrisG> Are there any repositories with 2.6.9 kernels for Breezy, or would i have to build one myself?
[03:13] <holycow> *ooo* oh thats great, didn't know that
[03:13] <holycow> nice
[03:13] <Niomi> jonny, have you installed the proprietary codecs?
[03:13] <jonny> Niomi: I dont even know what that means
[03:13] <GTroy> I just installed a dvd burner, it reads discs, but won't write to them
[03:14] <Niomi> jonny, you probably haven't then, let me find some resources for you
[03:14] <jonny> Niomi: lol thank you very much
[03:16] <jonny> anyone here use gtk-gnutella?
[03:17] <Niomi> jonny, some files used to play media files, codecs, aren't open source, so most distros don't ship with them by default. it's pretty easy to install them, though. here's a script that does it fairly simply: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563&
[03:17] <darknature> whats the sudo code to install something on a cd using Wine?
[03:17] <jonny> thx very very much
[03:17] <anto9us> darknature, don't use sudo for wine
[03:18] <darknature> ok so what be a line of code then
[03:18] <[Spooky] > how do i start sshd a simple way ?
[03:18] <felipe_> How can I restart X? without using ctrl + alt + backspace??
[03:18] <darknature> i know its wine ~(something goes here after)
[03:18] <anto9us> darknature, it's possibly wine /media/cdrom/setup.exe
[03:18] <nicoal> felipe_, killall -HUP X  ?
[03:18] <darknature> i tried that
[03:19] <anto9us> darknature, look at the contents of the cd for an executable
[03:19] <felipe_> nicoal, thanks
[03:19] <[Spooky] > isnt it something with /etc/rcd.init/ sshd start ?
[03:19] <darknature> yeah i found the setup.exe
[03:20] <darknature> wine ~/media/cdrom1/setup.exe
[03:20] <darknature> wine: cannot find '/home/darknature/media/cdrom1/setup.exe'
[03:20] <nicoal> [Spooky] , /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[03:20] <darknature> blah i even dragged and dropped it in the terminal
[03:20] <Agrajag> [Spooky] : sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[03:20] <Agrajag> er
[03:20] <anto9us> darknature, try wine /media/cdrom1/setup.exe
[03:20] <Agrajag> ssh, not sshd
[03:20] <darknature> k
[03:20] <foampeace> hi
[03:21] <darknature> >.> it didn't give me an error but it didn't shart up
[03:21] <darknature> start*
[03:21] <ramblingturtle> how safe would it be to use a ubuntu live disc to resize ntfs partition
[03:21] <foampeace> there seems to be some packages i dont want. When i do an apt-get upgrade im on dialup. these updates which seem unessecary might take too long...what is a good suggestion?
[03:21] <crisco> ok so im new to this linux thing and i HATE windows-all i need is a "guide" to help me be more productive in trying to set it up-i cant even locate and setup real player. i cant play any music files or watch my movies. any help would be appreciated :}
[03:21] <anto9us> darknature, have you checked the application database at winehq.org ?
[03:22] <darknature> no i haven't
[03:22] <Agrajag> crisco: www.ubuntulinux.com/wiki
[03:22] <darknature> ill check that out then
[03:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> has anyone here gotten gmailfs to work?
[03:22] <Xyc0> What is the FTP server package name?
[03:22] <Biscuitian_Warhe> ramblingturtle, Do you use Windows?
[03:22] <pudland> is there a program i can use to monitor my network traffic?
[03:23] <ramblingturtle> crisco: i might be willing to help with basic stuff
[03:23] <xandor> Any one here know of a way to run mac software on a i386 linux machine?
[03:24] <Agrajag> crisco: specifically for your problem, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:24] <jbroome> Where can i set what browser opens URLs when i right click on them and use the "Open link" option?
[03:24] <sophie_> xandor: install mcosx on vmware lol
[03:24] <Xyc0> What do I need to install to run an FTP server on Breezy?
[03:24] <xandor> vmware?
[03:24] <holycow> crisco, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html  is where you need to start in terms of getting a handle on the general things in ubuntu
[03:24] <jonny> how, exactly do you use wine in ubuntu?
[03:24] <foampeace> crisco: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[03:25] <Agrajag> foampeace: don't suggest that to new users.
[03:25] <Agrajag> !ubuntuguide
[03:25] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[03:25] <irvin> where can i get this file, or the package that it belongs to? i've searched with synaptic but couldn't find any match
[03:25] <aeon17x> foampeace: Don't recommend that site to anyone.
[03:25] <anto9us> jonny, just type wine filename.exe
[03:25] <irvin> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:25] <foampeace> aeon17x: ok sorry why
[03:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> xandor: Wait for Leopard 10.5
[03:25] <jonny> anto9us...will iTunes install over WINE?
[03:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jonny: Open Terminal - wine foobar.exe
[03:25] <foampeace> crisco: do not go to #
[03:25] <anto9us> jonny, I don't know, check the applications database on winehq.org
[03:26] <jonny> thx
[03:26] <foampeace> url
[03:26] <anto9us> yw
[03:26] <xandor> Leopard, isn't that a version of Mac OS?
[03:26] <sophie_> jonny: use amarok instead of itunes
[03:26] <holycow> crisco, next you need to know how to install w32codecs for ubuntu, search the wiki or google for ubuntu w32codecs
[03:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> xandor jaguar?
[03:26] <jonny> sophie_: I cant
[03:26] <holycow> that will let you play most windows media files
[03:26] <pudland> is there a program i can use to monitor my network traffic?
[03:27] <jbroome> trafshow
[03:27] <jbroome> ntop
[03:27] <xandor> Jaguar? I am so confused. Sorry, I'm a bit of a newb.
[03:27] <sophie_> jonny: why
[03:27] <GTroy> how slow will a usb 1.1 wifi be?
[03:27] <Mason059> Anyone have problems with upgrade from Hoary to Breezy?
[03:27] <holycow> crisco, then google how to install realplayer on ubuntu, you can actually play realplayer streams in totem after you install w32codecs i believe but not sure
[03:27] <medgno> etherape
[03:27] <anto9us> ubotu tell crisco about w32codecs
[03:27] <holycow> i stay away from real streams my self
[03:27] <holycow> crisco, after that keep on asking questions, pretty soon you will be ms free
[03:27] <foampeace> say i dont need graphics drivers for the X,  for example xserver-xorg-driver-mga etc...what should i do...these updates would take too long on dialup
[03:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> xandor: Leopard 10.5 is the Future Version of Mac OS X to be used of MacTels
[03:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> If you use virtually all Intel Hardware, it will Install of that box then, with some tweaking here and there.
[03:28] <Agrajag> Biscuitian_Warhe: not if Apple has their way
[03:28] <Agrajag> They're locking it down much harder
[03:28] <sophie_> Mason059: i had lots of problem since i was using lots of my own compiled app
[03:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> USB 1.1 transmits at about 12 mbps
[03:28] <jonny> sophie_: I got lots of credits in iTunes, and i have an iPod
[03:28] <foampeace> yes ubuntu supports newbies
[03:28] <holycow> speaking of mac, what are they going to do when they run out of cat species?
[03:28] <xandor> But I don't want to install Mac OS. I want to run a Mac OS program on Linux.
[03:28] <holycow> i can just see like osx oceloth
[03:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> So
[03:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Figure that somewhere
[03:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> xandor: Jaguar is the current Mac OS X release
[03:28] <holycow> osx tabby
[03:28] <jbroome> xandor: not going to happen
[03:28] <Mason059> Ubuntu has great support for newbies
[03:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Gosh, i hate dialup.
[03:28] <xandor> I've seen software to do it on Linux on a powerpc architecture.
[03:28] <jbroome> tiger is the current OSX release Biscuitian_Warhe
[03:28] <DylanRE> Tiger is the current OSX release.
[03:28] <DylanRE> yeah.
[03:29] <holycow> osx garfield
[03:29] <holycow> >_>
[03:29] <Mason059> Anyone having trouble with KDM not restarting after shutdown?
[03:29] <DylanRE> MOL. Mac on linux.
[03:29] <DylanRE> HolycowL haha
[03:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> holycow: Hopefully go to turtle species
[03:29] <xandor> DylanRE but that won't work on i386.
[03:29] <holycow> Biscuitian_Warhe, hehe :)
[03:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> xandor: As far as I know, you really can't/
[03:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Sorry, lol, Im not much of a mac guy, all the cats get really confusing :/
[03:30] <DylanRE> Xandor: didn't catch that it was an i386
[03:30] <DylanRE> Xandor: I have tiger running on my x86 machine :-)
[03:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> MOL?
[03:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Does that work well?
[03:30] <xandor> DylanRE that's fine. I'm just trying to run Ventrilo on linux because my clan instists on using it over TS.
[03:31] <jbroome> I have it running on my PB, but i guess that's not 'leet. :)
[03:31] <DylanRE> Xandor: I don't know too much about linux, actually.
[03:31] <tonyyarusso> I can't run gnome-app-install, and get errors in the terminal when I try.  Can someone help me fix it?
[03:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> holycow, Lol
[03:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> They need Rosetta for Linux
[03:31] <gordon> Anyone know why I can't get any resolutions past 1024x768 with my x800 AGP card?
[03:32] <xandor> gordon Your monitor may not suport it.
[03:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> DylanRE: Torrent?
[03:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Or are you a dev?
[03:32] <Mason059> What distro/version are you running gordon?
[03:32] <DylanRE> Biscuitian: What are you asking? I'm lost. ha
[03:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> DylanRE: Do you have a real copy of tiger x86
[03:32] <gordon> Latest
[03:33] <gordon> Breezy Badger 5.10 or whatever
[03:33] <Mason059> Breezy 5.10 then?
[03:33] <DylanRE> Biscuition: OH. Not an official copy, but it runs.
[03:33] <GTroy> one last question: my dvdrw is seen, but I can't write anything
[03:33] <anto9us> gordon, have you tried to manually edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[03:33] <GTroy> is this due to also having a cdrw too?
[03:33] <gordon> Yep
[03:33] <DylanRE> I know the guy who hacked it in the first place. Justin Nolan.
[03:33] <gordon> My monitor supports the resolution (in fact, it's the native res of my LCD I'm trying to get access to)
[03:34] <gordon> yeah, the rez is in the xorg.conf file
[03:34] <anto9us> gordon, are the resolutions in descending order?
[03:34] <corincole> Seveas, you there?
[03:34] <Mason059> I had a lot of trouble getting the x-org server to work when I upgraded from Hoary Hedgehog.  I think there's still some "hair" on the X-org server version that ships with Breezy, but could be wrong?
[03:34] <corincole> :)
[03:34] <gordon> Yep
[03:34] <gordon> It just won't show up in the res switcher
[03:34] <corincole> can someone tell me about programming for the bash shell?
[03:34] <misfit_toy> corincole, http://tldp.org
[03:34] <gordon> The vertical and horizontal refresh rates are also properly configured
[03:35] <holycow> Mason059, mine failed to upgrade simply because of openoffice.org2.  i had to remove that on every single machine to get it to complete the install
[03:35] <holycow> perhaps that is what was going on... incomplete install?
[03:35] <corincole> if I have the code for a program, how do I use it?
[03:35] <holycow> corincole, depends on the program
[03:35] <corincole> #!/bin/bash
[03:35] <corincole> etc
[03:35] <corincole> etc
[03:35] <Mason059> that was a problem for mee to holycow.  Openoffice.org is a drag with most every upgrade to ubuntu (I run Kubuntu)
[03:35] <corincole> what do I do with that?
[03:35] <holycow> if its just python you can run it directly with python program.py
[03:35] <jonny> can you filter unwanted content in gtk-gnutella
[03:35] <corincole> put in a file?
[03:36] <holycow> if its something that needs compiling you need to compile the program
[03:36] <Biscuitian_Warhe> DylanRE: You said you have tiger on your x86 machine, sorry for the lag
[03:36] <Biscuitian_Warhe> DylanRE: How does it go, do you use an ATI card by chance?
[03:36] <Mason059> I've have more unresolved dependencies with openoffice than any other program
[03:36] <corincole> ???
[03:36] <holycow> Mason059, it was a very weird issue indeed
[03:36] <Biscuitian_Warhe> gordon:Your monitor supports it, but does your vid card, or make sure you have the updated ATI driver.
[03:37] <holycow> corincole, no, what type of program do you have
[03:37] <gordon> How do I know what driver I have, and how do I go about updating it?
[03:37] <corincole> well, im reading a book about how to program
[03:37] <holycow> is it something programmed in c, is it a bash script, python, something else?
[03:37] <Lord_Maynoth> you don't fordon
[03:37] <CaNsA> what would stop my desktop from loading after logging in?
[03:37] <corincole> so its a basic program, which does nothing useful
[03:37] <holycow> what programming language?
[03:37] <Mason059> It was a problem with a couple of Hoary upgrades as well...Openoffice stopped it cold, both through Synaptic and apt
[03:37] <corincole> holycow, come to #kubuntu-offtopic and I will show you
[03:37] <darknature> ok i got the program to open and start the installer in Wine now where would I put the path in?
[03:37] <crisco> why is it such a bitch just to get real player to run? why?
[03:37] <anto9us> gordon, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[03:37] <Agrajag> crisco: huh?
[03:38] <Agrajag> I installed it just fine, what's the problem?
[03:38] <holycow> crisco, just install w32codecs, you can run realplayer streamns in that
[03:38] <Biscuitian_Warhe> gordon: If those are in fact correct, add it to your xorg.conf
[03:38] <holycow> in totem i mean
[03:38] <Mason059> not sure CaNsA.  I have a similar problem with KDM after shutdown
[03:38] <rrbiz> help anyone, i need to setup the xorg via package in kubuntu breezy
[03:38] <Agrajag> I'm using realplayer 10, it works fine
[03:39] <Biscuitian_Warhe> gordon: Go to ATI's website, they have a new driver, im assuming your using Breezy though, correct?
[03:39] <corincole> holycow: please can you join #kubuntu-offtopic?
[03:39] <mshade> !dvd
[03:39] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2 which you can obtain by installing 'libdvdread3' and then running 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[03:39] <jonny> is there a good solution to iTunes support in linux?
[03:39] <Mason059> I have to restart the x-server to get to KDM with every shutdown (except reboot)
[03:39] <gordon> Biscuit: Correct
[03:40] <davidpelaez> what about mp3, it's supposed to work isntalling xmms, but it doesn't?? any idea of how to solve the problem, is it in my xmms configuration?
[03:40] <jonny> Mason059: try this, im not sure it'll work though ctr+alt+F2
[03:40] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jonny: if your looking for iPod connectivity, use gtk-pod
[03:40] <jonny> Biscuitian_Warhe: nah, I want iTunes
[03:41] <darknature> ok when installing software on Wine. If to install it needs 2 discs how will I go about it?
[03:41] <thirso> !tell davidpelaez about restrictedformats
[03:41] <Wilco_> anyone in here familiar with atitvout?
[03:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> gordon: Well, if im correct, you should have xorg 6.8
[03:41] <foampeace> is there a tool that will interactive let me choose what packages to update or remove somehow...im on dialup so something i dont know if i need i want to get rid of...some thing i want to upgrade etc
[03:42] <gordon> OK, I'm downloading the supposed latest ATI installer...
[03:42] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Which, the new ATI driver will work with
[03:42] <Biscuitian_Warhe> darknature: Why not install in windows, copy the dir over to linux
[03:42] <thirso> foampeace: synaptic?
[03:42] <DylanRE> I guess I should have made sure of this a while ago: Anybody know if the iMac G5 is supported by ubuntu?
[03:42] <foampeace> thirso: i mean how do i remove this xserver-xorg-driver-ati without removing X
[03:42] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Wilco_: I know what it is, but never attempted it in Linux
[03:42] <corincole> holycow, you still there?
[03:43] <holycow> no i gave you everything you need to know
[03:43] <Biscuitian_Warhe> gordon, Its got a snazzy gui too :)
[03:43] <holycow> google up more info on bash  :)
[03:43] <Niomi> jonny: rythmbox and amaroK have simular features to itunes, i do think rythmbox connects to ipods
[03:43] <jonny> anyone know how to port iTUnes to linux?
[03:43] <holycow> lots of info out there on how to program bash
[03:43] <darknature> hmm yeah even though I dual booted I don't have a Windows parpartion in my Linux systemfiles
[03:43] <holycow> well not program, script in bash anyway :)
[03:43] <foampeace> X core depend on xserver-xorg-driver-ati and all those drivers if i only need one?
[03:43] <Biscuitian_Warhe> DylanRE: If you get Ubuntu PPC
[03:43] <Wilco_> for some reason atitvout works in the console, but in X the image on the TV will appear garbled
[03:43] <foampeace> how can i remove them
[03:44] <darknature> I was able to access window files on linux in SuSE but I never got it to work in ubuntu can anyone tell me how
[03:44] <Biscuitian_Warhe> darknature: Im assuming its an NTFS partition type?
[03:45] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jonny: Wines your best bet.
[03:45] <foampeace> xserver-xorg-driver-ati and all the other drivers depend on xcore? or do they? how can i remove them so i dont have to upgrade them?
[03:45] <darknature> yes
[03:45] <Wilco_> I'm guessing there's some issue with xorg but I'm not entirely sure
[03:45] <darknature> it run windows 2000 on the other part of the drive
[03:45] <psusi> so I fire up openoffice base and create a table with a date field and save the layout... open the table and insert a row... type in a date, say 2/7/2003 and hit tab to go to the next row, and the date becomes 2/7/70... it keeps changing the year to 1970... WTF?
[03:46] <Biscuitian_Warhe> darknature: If your using Breezy, it should mount on your desktop autonmatically, otherwise, you will have to mount it yourself
[03:46] <thrush> darknature: example: mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hd
[03:47] <stevejesus> hola
[03:47] <darknature> well i installed breezy and it didn't mount by itself
[03:47] <stevejesus> anybody having any issues with nvidia drivers in ubuntu?
[03:47] <darknature> ahh well ill try doing it manual
[03:48] <rrbiz> darknature: i had to mount it on breezy myself
[03:48] <darknature> well ima try this out thanks for the help
[03:48] <stevejesus> for some reason my 3d stuff skips alot using nvidia drivers
[03:49] <jonny> Biscuitian_Warhe: I have wine installed, but itunes isnt supported
[03:49] <wezlo> hey, are backports read for breezy?
[03:49] <beniamino> is there any way to get mountd to attempt to mount a usb drive only _after_ pcmcia services have been started? mountall.sh is rcS.d/S35 but pcmcia is rc3.d/S20...
[03:49] <jonny> wezlo: no
[03:49] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jonny: Did you try it anyways?
[03:49] <wezlo> jonny, is it worth setting the backports-staging then?
[03:49] <holycow>  corincole got it workin?
[03:50] <bobbyd_> I have a problem where my ssh server will drop a connection after a few seconds of inactivity. can anyone suggest a fix?
[03:50] <jonny> wezlo: read all the way up, it says "no, backports arent for breezy"
[03:50] <wezlo> jonny, sorry
[03:50] <jonny> wezlo: np, glad to help
[03:50] <holycow> whats there to backport for breezy? it has the latest packages
[03:51] <wezlo> holycow, well development is already started on dapper I thought
[03:51] <wezlo> and I'm interested in the 2.6.14 kernel
[03:51] <jonny> holycow: no backports for breezy
[03:51] <duke3z> no cows are not holy
[03:51] <jonny> Biscuitian_Warhe: no, i have no idea how
[03:52] <bobbyd_> duke3z, if you shoot them they are
[03:52] <jonny> rhythmbox doesnt work
[03:52] <holycow> wezlo, breezy has packages even from debians experimental, how do you expect anything that unstable to be made available on breezy?
[03:52] <stevejesus> is anypne having issues with the nvidia drivers in breezy?
[03:52] <holycow> johnny re-read what i said
[03:52] <jonny> it unexpectidly quits every time i open it
[03:52] <wezlo> holycow, yah I know
[03:52] <duke3z> true bobbyd
[03:52] <stevejesus> anyone*
[03:52] <foampeace> i dont want to update man xdrivers i dont need. what do i do?
[03:52] <foampeace> any
[03:53] <foampeace> many
[03:53] <jonny> ah, got it
[03:53] <holycow> stevejesus, not me working great on a good number of nvidia enabled boxxen
[03:53] <Jonc101> does anybody know how to change the irc usermask?  aka bob@196.x.x.x here?
[03:53] <bobbyd_> stevejesus, card?
[03:53] <misfit_toy> if anyone is sick of the slow speeds using VNC, check this out, it's 10x faster IMO: http://www.snakeoillabs.com/2005/10/27/freenx-on-ubuntu-breezy-howto/
[03:54] <WhiteRabbit> misfit_toy, rofl
[03:54] <misfit_toy> hola WhiteRabbit !
[03:54] <misfit_toy> long time
[03:54] <mahangu> WhiteRabbit, i got kismet working!
[03:54] <mahangu> :)
[03:54] <mahangu> it rawks :P
[03:54] <corincole> yeah holycow, thanks
[03:54] <duke3z> test
[03:54] <WhiteRabbit> mahangu, you go boy!
[03:54] <mustard5> stevejesus, what issues are you having?
[03:54] <corincole> im sure i will ask for programming help soon lol
[03:54] <duke3z> test
[03:54] <WhiteRabbit> misfit_toy, hallo
[03:54] <mahangu> WhiteRabbit, got a sec for a pm?
[03:54] <foampeace> there needs to be more info somewhere about removing things that arent needed
[03:54] <holycow> corincole, :) cool welcome to linux
[03:55] <corincole> :P
[03:55] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jonny: If it won't install in WINE, then install on Windows, copy dir over to linux, then go to the dir with the .exe in a terminal, then type wine itunes.exe
[03:55] <maruchan> anyone know how to fix a prolbem with firefox and quicktime.. it gets to 99% and thens stops
[03:55] <Nihil85> hello
[03:55] <ubuntudude> Epson Stylus C64 printer doesnt work on Ubuntu 5.10, while it does on debian testing, should I file in a bug report?
[03:55] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Im sick of dialup, especially this Free restricted driver from Linuxant, but DSL is yet 2000 feet away
[03:55] <WhiteRabbit> mahangu, plz deposit 1 can of beer
[03:55] <holycow> ubuntudude, no, get a better printer
[03:55] <holycow> >_<
[03:55] <holycow> j/k
[03:55] <jonny> Biscuitian_Warhe: I have no idea how
[03:56] <duke3z> have a good night everyone, i must go fight the deamons
[03:56] <mustard5> nite duke3z
[03:56] <ubuntudude> holycow: well it DO work on debian
[03:56] <duke3z> peace
[03:57] <holycow> ubuntudude, lol nm, i'm just kidden :)
[03:57] <ubuntudude> holycow: I get error about syntax in some DPP file... perhaps broken config file?
[03:57] <jonny> Biscuitian_Warhe: so install it in windows...dont know how....copy dir....dont even know what that is
[03:57] <holycow> ubuntudude, way overmy head to be honest, i always make fun of people using epson printers
[03:57] <holycow> hehe
[03:57] <holycow> :)
[03:57] <stevejesus> hi im having some nvidia problems, perhaps someone could help?
[03:57] <foampeace> helpe me im doomed to suffer uneeded updates on dialup
[03:58] <ubuntudude> :[
[03:58] <holycow> stevejesus, just ask your question, if someone knows they will answer
[03:58] <mustard5> stevejesus, describe the problem :)
[03:58] <holycow> ubuntudude, oh hey man i'm kiddin notice the --> :)
[03:58] <holycow> i'll shutup now
[03:58] <holycow> -_-
[03:58] <DylanRE> man you guys totally rock the emoticons.
[03:58] <DylanRE> _
[03:59] <holycow> DylanRE, got that off of bash.org, eh?
[03:59] <holycow> :)
[03:59] <tonyyarusso> I'm beginning to wonder if it's a bug with my gnome-app-install package, not my fault.  How would I report something like that?
[03:59] <stevejesus> just installed nvidia drivers via apt-get.  graphics lag hard.  however the 3d does work, albeit poorly.  card is nvidia 5600xt 256mb on xp 2000+.  3d has same problem all around.  same problems with GL screensavers and also quake3
[03:59] <thirso> tonyyarusso: launchpad i guess
[03:59] <cwells> what's the trick to make ubuntu not start X on boot?
[04:00] <maruchan> anyone know how to fix a prolbem with firefox and quicktime.. it gets to 99% and thens stops
[04:00] <mustard5> ubotu: tell tonyyarusso about bugzilla
[04:00] <mustard5> tonyyarusso, might be there too
[04:00] <mustard5> tonyyarusso, that or launchpad
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> cwells, remove gdm from /etc/init.d
[04:01] <cwells> wickedpuppy, is there a command to do this or just unlink it?
[04:01] <bobbyd_> maruchan, try mplayer plug in
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> cwells, its a script ... remove it or rename it
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> up to you
[04:01] <cwells> wickedpuppy thanks
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> thirso & mustard5: Thanks, I'll try those.
[04:01] <mustard5> tonyyarusso, its launchpad for stuff that is community maintained and bugzilla for stuff on the main install disk, I think
[04:02] <stevejesus> i was thinking maybe ill get rid of the nvidia drivers in the repo and install the official ones.  has anyone done that before>  maybe you can tell me what sort of horror to expect:)
[04:02] <foampeace> what are meta packages
[04:02] <stevejesus> *from the repo*
[04:03] <mustard5> stevejesus, just to ask the ovious ..did you sudo nvidia-glx-enable config after installing?
[04:03] <mustard5> *obviuos
[04:03] <thirso> whats your vga stevejesus ?
[04:03] <stevejesus> mustard5:  aboslutely
[04:03] <mustard5> stevejesus, k just getting that one out of the way :)
[04:03] <stevejesus> mustard5:  monitor??
[04:03] <psusi> anyone have any idea why openoffice base would allways convert dates to the year 1970? heh
[04:04] <mustard5> stevejesus, so your problem is 'low performance' i take it?
[04:04] <stevejesus> mustard5:  just to clarify, the 3d definitely works.  it appears to go about 50-60 frames and then lags an entire second.  then picks up where it left off
[04:05] <mustard5> stevejesus, I'm not to knowledgeable about performance issues soz
[04:05] <stevejesus> mustard5:  well, maybe not an entire second of lag:)  but it enough to where I cant play with my friends tonite
[04:05] <mustard5> stevejesus, someone else might know though
[04:05] <thirso> stevejesus: whats your vga and which game?
[04:06] <stevejesus> thirso:  when you say vga do you mean card or monitor?
[04:06] <thirso> card
[04:06] <anto9us> stevejesus, maybe another process is peaking out your processor?
[04:06] <stevejesus> thirso:  geforce 5600xt 256mb
[04:06] <stevejesus> thirso:  its a global issue that isnt related to the game
[04:07] <stevejesus> thirso:  however, the game is quake 3
[04:07] <Wilco_> anyone know the best way to get mplayer to play videos from bash?
[04:07] <stevejesus> anto9us:  processor usage overall is pretty low when playing... or viewing a 3D screensaver.
[04:08] <stevejesus> anto9us:  ive even tried playing the game from failsafe terminal
[04:08] <tonyyarusso> Say, I had a program before that would make grocery lists and the like for you, but I can't remember the name.  Ideas?
[04:08] <stevejesus> anto9us:  top output from failsafe reveals less than 1% cpu usage
[04:09] <stevejesus> anto9us:  on average:)
[04:10] <Wilco_> any particular install switches I should use for installing mplayer to use in a shell?
[04:10] <anto9us> stevejesus, have you graphed the cpu usage?
[04:11] <stevejesus> anto9us:  im not sure how to do that.  however i am fairly certain that cpu usage is not the issue
[04:11] <stevejesus> anto9us:  do you perhaps have experience installing the "official" nvidia drivers?
[04:13] <anto9us> stevejesus, I did it for the first time yesterday on my new laptop, previously was on ATI, I installed the binary drivers then set Driver in xorg.conf to "nvidia"
[04:14] <stevejesus> anto9us:  well did you get them from the repo or from the nvidia site.  there is a beg difference
[04:14] <mustard5> ubotu: tell stevejesus about nvidia
[04:14] <mustard5> stevejesus, there is a link from ubotu to the forum how to for drivers from the nvidia site
[04:15] <mustard5> stevejesus, the second link
[04:15] <stevejesus> mustard5:  thanks but that bot never really helps me.  i am vary familiar with the wiki.  i guess what im asking now is what i can expect from going from the repo drivers to the official drivers.
[04:16] <anto9us> stevejesus, repo and it seems to work great for me, I've not played quake though, I don't play games much
[04:16] <WhyvasLT> anyone have the intel 915m card?
[04:16] <stevejesus> mustard5:  oh the thread.  sorry.  ill give it a read
[04:16] <mustard5> stevejesus, increased performance one would hope
[04:16] <mustard5> stevejesus, I have no idea if it will be better
[04:16] <mustard5> stevejesus, and I don't know how to uninstall them either :)
[04:16] <mustard5> stevejesus, so proceed with caution I guess
[04:17] <holycow> to uninstall nvidia drivers you just locate all the nvidia files and delete them
[04:17] <mustard5> holycow, the ones from nvidia site?
[04:17] <holycow> yes
[04:17] <mustard5> holycow, ah ok
[04:17] <mustard5> holycow, what method do you use to find them?
[04:17] <stevejesus> holycow:  you mean from the one i installed from the repo?
[04:18] <holycow> sudo updatedb and then locate *nvidia*
[04:18] <mustard5> holycow, ah ok
[04:18] <holycow> stevejesus, no if you use the nvidia installer to remove nvidias drivers you just delete them
[04:18] <mustard5> stevejesus, hes not talking about the repository drivers
[04:18] <mustard5> stevejesus, he's talklng about the ones from the nvidia site
[04:19] <stevejesus> holycow:  oh, well i am about to do just the opposite:)  any suggestions?  the ones from the repo are not doing to well for me
[04:19] <stevejesus> too*
[04:19] <paueas> hey how can i read information about a package before i install it?
[04:19] <mustard5> what package paueas
[04:19] <paueas> anyone
[04:19] <mustard5> !info nvidia-glx
[04:19] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7667-0ubuntu25 (breezy), Packaged size: 3012 kB, Installed size: 10036 kB
[04:19] <paueas> lets say i want to get info about fortune-mod for example
[04:20] <mustard5> info fortune-mod
[04:20] <paueas> at the shell
[04:20] <mustard5> hehe
[04:20] <holycow> stevejesus, so when do you get performance issues?
[04:20] <mustard5> ok
[04:20] <holycow> all the time
[04:20] <WhyvasLT> !info intel
[04:20] <paueas> no just a discription
[04:20] <holycow> or just when running a specific app using ogl?
[04:20] <mustard5> ummm..trying to think of the command
[04:20] <stevejesus> holycow:  whenever anything is using opengl.  regardless of whether its a game of a screensaver.
[04:20] <Agrajag> apt-cache showpkg
[04:20] <stevejesus> or* a screensave
[04:21] <mustard5> paueas, apt-cache show ....?
[04:21] <psusi> is there a simple way to change color schemes in ubuntu to one that is white on black, instead of the other way around?  like how you can set the color scheme in the display control pannel applet in windows?
[04:21] <mustard5> what Agrajag said
[04:21] <holycow> that sounds either like a hardware issue or a driver issue
[04:21] <anto9us> mustard5, apropos
[04:21] <paueas> hmm i know its apt-something...
[04:21] <paueas> ok show is it thanks
[04:21] <holycow> unless you have a spare nvidia card to test with, i'm not sure if you have any choice besides but to use the latest nvidia drivers
[04:22] <stbain> Is it just me, or is Ubuntu not too "qmail-friendly"?
[04:22] <bobbyd_> yeeha, freenx is working again
[04:22] <stevejesus> holycow:  well, i do have a few older geforce cards lying around that would work.  however, this one had worked just fine in hoary.  i doubt its the card
[04:23] <holycow> ah
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> stbain, its just you
[04:23] <stevejesus> holycow:  also works fine in xp:(
[04:23] <holycow> you reinstalled the drivers? that has never actually worked for me on linux but outside of that, you are either going to use the nvidia installer or compile your own drivers and install them by hand
[04:24] <stevejesus> holycow:  well, i have the ones installed from repo via apt.  if you know how i can remove them properly i will gladly install them by hand.
[04:25] <holycow> remove what?
[04:25] <holycow> anything installed from repo can be removed
[04:25] <destroyer> hi guys
[04:25] <holycow> sudo apt-get remove --purge package name ...
[04:25] <stbain> Package qmail is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[04:25] <stevejesus> holycow:  remove the drivers that i installed via apt.  i believe it was "nvidia-glx"
[04:25] <destroyer> big community this is verry nice
[04:25] <holycow> i just gave you the command
[04:25] <holycow> or use package manager
[04:26] <destroyer> i need help configuring my network
[04:26] <ispiked> how do I get totem-gstreamer to play WMV files?
[04:26] <reiki> ok I've tried to solve this... I'm using fetchmail to retrieve my mail from a remote server that runs courier imap. NOWHERE in my .fetchmailrc am I telling fetchmail to use SSL however I get this: fetchmail: Server CommonName mismatch: rickmueller01.theplanet.com != yardbird.net
[04:26] <reiki>    when fetching mail. I know it's a certificate thing, but why am I seeing it when I'm not using SSL?
[04:26] <stevejesus> holycow:  i missed it, what was the command?
[04:26] <holycow> easy package installation/removal is one of the key things that define debian, besides the philosophical parts
[04:26] <holycow> sudo apt-get remove --purge package name ...
[04:26] <reiki> oh that didn't work so good
[04:26] <holycow> stevejesus, why not use package manager then
[04:26] <stevejesus> holycow:  please bear with me.  i am new to apt.  i have migrated from rpm based distros
[04:27] <destroyer> Someone have working a network with another windows machine?
[04:27] <stevejesus> holycow:  i really dont want to wait for synaptic to load.  a quick command with proper flags would be great
[04:27] <reiki> destroyer: I can see my son's music directory on his winXP box
[04:27] <stevejesus> holycow:  thank you!
[04:27] <destroyer> so reiki can you help me ?
[04:28] <destroyer> i am a 686 spm user
[04:28] <destroyer> smp
[04:28] <destroyer> sorry
[04:28] <reiki> destroyer : I have no idea.... I didn't see the problem :)
[04:28] <destroyer> well i dont know how to begin the configure of my network
[04:29] <reiki> destroyer : on ubuntu?
[04:29] <destroyer> i read some howtos and some topics on ubuntus forum
[04:29] <destroyer> but they arent clear
[04:29] <destroyer> yep
[04:29] <destroyer> on ubuntu
[04:29] <destroyer> i made
[04:29] <destroyer> apt-get samba
[04:29] <reiki> destroyer, ok what's not clear. Where are you not understanding?
[04:29] <psusi> is there a simple way to change color schemes in ubuntu to one that is white on black, instead of the other way around?  like how you can set the color scheme in the display control pannel applet in windows?
[04:30] <destroyer> why i need samba?
[04:30] <destroyer> i am conecting both computers in a switch
[04:30] <destroyer> so both are clients not server
[04:30] <destroyer> why i need to download a samba server?
[04:30] <bungle> mm I want to make my own theme to purple n aqua
[04:31] <reiki> destroyer, samba is smb for *nix. Windows shares are smb shares
[04:31] <psusi> destroyer: if you want to share files, the computer that holds the files being shared is a server
[04:31] <bungle> and instead of the startup gui pic saying ubuntu .. I want it to say bungles box .. running ubuntu
[04:31] <destroyer> ok i understand that
[04:31] <destroyer> so how i begin?
[04:31] <mc|amb> destroyer: i don't think you have to download samba, at least in my ubuntu install samba was installed by default
[04:31] <reiki> I wanna fix my fetchmail problem
[04:32] <destroyer> i think i crashed my smb.conf
[04:32] <Nihil85> hello
[04:32] <cwells> tonyyarusso: there's a program called "gourmet" on sourceforge that will make shopping lists out of recipes you enter.  my gf loves it
[04:32] <destroyer> trying a lot of stuffs and losing the backup :(
[04:33] <destroyer> I really messed
[04:33] <mc|amb> destroyer: do you know the ip of the computer your trying to connect?
[04:33] <destroyer> yea
[04:33] <destroyer> but both are in dhcp
[04:33] <mc|amb> destroyer: can you ping it?
[04:33] <crisco> how do i install decoders to play music and video-ive tried several times to install real player but it wont work
[04:33] <destroyer> yep
[04:33] <destroyer> but it gives me high pings
[04:33] <aeon17x> !codecs
[04:33] <ubotu> codecs is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:33] <Agrajag> crisco: maybe if you tell us how it failed you'd get better help
[04:33] <cwells> what's the equivalent of /etc/rc.local on ubuntu?
[04:33] <Nihil85> I have 2 Ubuntu pc in my house. How can i connect them via wireless? How can i share the internet connection of one of them? Can anyone give me the url of an how-to or explain me the situation?
[04:33] <mc|amb> destroyer: ok so first you have to set your shares in the windows box
[04:33] <reiki> anyone...when fetchmail polls an IMAP server...does it use SSL by default?
[04:33] <crisco> ok
[04:33] <crisco> lol
[04:33] <destroyer> so i think that the high pings are because is pinging trough the internet maybe
[04:34] <destroyer> my network is fine if i put both in windows
[04:34] <destroyer> but when i come to linux it doesnt work
[04:34] <anto9us> crisco, sudo dpkg -i realplayer_10.0.6-0.1_i386.deb
[04:34] <anto9us>  (downloaded from realplayer website)
[04:34] <mc|amb> destroyer: so have you chosen what folders you're going to share?
[04:34] <Nihil85> destroyer, i have the same problem
[04:34] <destroyer> yea
[04:35] <crisco> well i went throiugh the terminal way-and it says it needs to know where i downloaded it-its on my desktop-when i put that it says its not accurate
[04:35] <psusi> destroyer: both in linux, or one in windows, the other in linux?
[04:35] <destroyer> i shared my disk D on my windows xp machine
[04:35] <redguy> does anyone happen to know if OOo 2.0 will be coming to breezy?
[04:35] <crisco> but the icon is now available under applications
[04:35] <destroyer> in mine i have dual boot
[04:35] <mc|amb> destroyer, Nihil: i had the same problem, I had to disable the built-in xp firewall to gain access to my windows box
[04:35] <destroyer> and the other one only has windows
[04:35] <crisco> and when i click it it ing real playersays start
[04:35] <anto9us> crisco, that would be sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/realplayer_10.0.6-0.1_i386.deb
[04:35] <crisco> but then never starts\
[04:35] <Nihil85> mc|amb, i have 2 ubuntu pc, not two windows pc
[04:35] <destroyer> the only 2 things that i need for leave windows is my network and play games :D
[04:36] <mc|amb> destroyer:Nihil85: oops forget it then
[04:36] <burepe>  I got a serious problem. I got a drive full of fsckooo.ren files, so apparently the drive is messed, but the files on it are very important to me, Can I transfer them to another computer?
[04:36] <mc|amb> destroyer: try this
[04:36] <holycow> redguy, no, but there is a 2.0 set of binaries out there
[04:36] <holycow> google for them
[04:36] <holycow> i found them very crashy but it could of been a faulty java install, not sure
[04:36] <Agrajag> crisco: did you try running it from  aterminal so you can see the error message?
[04:36] <redguy> holycow: so it won't be grough into the repos?
[04:36] <Agrajag> just open a terminal and run realplay
[04:36] <destroyer> if you have a  good howto set a network with ubuntu i will read it and try all the steps...then if i have a problem i can ask you guys
[04:37] <maruchan> umm i have mplayer firefox plugin, bu it still stalls at 99 and dosent play
[04:37] <Nihil85> so how can i connect 2 ubuntu pc via wireless?
[04:37] <redguy> s/grough/brought/
[04:37] <holycow> redguy, someone is operating a repo with the 2.0 packages on them, so you would add his yes
[04:38] <mc|amb> destroyer: mount smbfs //remote_ip/name_of_share /path_where you want to mount it
[04:38] <redguy> thanks holycow
[04:38] <destroyer> ok
[04:38] <holycow> np
[04:38] <destroyer> i dont have to configure my smb.conf?
[04:38] <destroyer> reconfigure it because i think isnt working
[04:39] <mc|amb> destroyer: i'm not sure. the first time i did it, I didn't have to configure anything
[04:39] <destroyer> look when i go to places-network servers
[04:39] <Nihil85> i need a help: how can i connect 2 ubuntu pc via wireless, share folders and internet connection?
[04:39] <destroyer> it ask me for a login, domain and password and i put it then it conect and show me the windows network with my workgroup
[04:40] <destroyer> but when i go to my workgroup i just see my computer not the remote one
[04:40] <sklav> destroyer, have u setup your smb.conf?
[04:40] <destroyer> how do i start my samba server?
[04:40] <mc|amb> destroyer: just go to where you said places->connect to server
[04:40] <destroyer> yea
[04:41] <destroyer> i am there
[04:41] <mc|amb> destroyer: in the service type select windows share
[04:41] <cwells> hi is there anyway to have a program run at startup, *after* all the other init scripts have finished?  there's no rc.local
[04:42] <Rev-Marc> can anyone tell me how to detirmine if MYSql server is installed and if so how to turn it on and access it?
[04:42] <mc|amb> destroyer: in the server type your remote pc ip
[04:42] <destroyer> wheres the service type?
[04:42] <mc|amb> destroyer: at the top
[04:42] <crimsun> cwells: use update-rc.d
[04:42] <mc|amb> destroyer: you're in places->connect to server right?
[04:42] <crimsun> cwells: or search for BUM in the forum
[04:42] <destroyer> nop
[04:43] <cwells>  crimsun thanks
[04:43] <destroyer> in places- Network Servers
[04:43] <burepe>  I got a serious problem. I got a drive full of fsckooo.ren files, so apparently the drive is messed, but the files on it are very important to me, Can I transfer them to another computer?
[04:43] <mc|amb> destroyer: go to palces->connect to server
[04:43] <Delvien> anyone know how to fix this ? Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-dm" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[04:43] <destroyer> ok i am there
[04:43] <mc|amb> destroyer: at the top select windows share
[04:43] <P00f> Hi all!
[04:43] <Nihil85> i need a help: how can i connect 2 ubuntu pc via wireless, share folders and internet connection?
[04:43] <imexius> Can someone help me with something, i keep getting an error saying, "Unable to get exclusive lock
[04:43] <destroyer> done
[04:44] <destroyer> i put that and click on conect
[04:44] <destroyer> but nothing happens
[04:44] <imexius> when trying to add another repositry
[04:44] <Rev-Marc> can anyone tell me how to detirmine if MYSql server is installed and if so how to turn it on and access it?
[04:44] <mc|amb> destroyer: then in the server field type the remote pc's ip
[04:44] <P00f> does Ubuntu have PHP? I need to develope PHP applications...
[04:44] <crimsun> Rev-Marc: it's not installed by default for the Ubuntu 5.10 desktop
[04:44] <sklav> P00f, yes it does
[04:44] <P00f> by default?
[04:44] <P00f> Tahnks :)
[04:44] <P00f> thanks
[04:44] <sklav> do a search in synaptic
[04:44] <Rev-Marc> crimsun thank you
[04:44] <P00f> Ok cool :)
[04:44] <Strike4ce> I can easily connect to my wireless router at home but anywhere else it will not work?
[04:45] <anto9us> burepe, short answer is that's very likely, tons of options though, depends what you have
[04:45] <crisco> anto9us-im at configuring real player right now. and its asking where i have it downloaded to. what do i put. it doesnt give me an error message
[04:45] <destroyer> i did that and nothing happened
[04:45] <mc|amb> destroyer: then maybe theres something wrong with the conf file
[04:46] <anto9us> crisco, go with the default?
[04:46] <mc|amb> destroyer: like you said before
[04:46] <destroyer> it keeps searching when i double click the mounted ip
[04:46] <crisco> ive tried it many times
[04:46] <destroyer> ok can you help me with the conf?
[04:46] <Strike4ce> Can anyone help?
[04:46] <imexius> i was using apt-get but i shut it off and rebooted still no luck
[04:46] <crisco> (/root)
[04:46] <mc|amb> destroyer: does your winxp box have a firewall?
[04:46] <destroyer> nop
[04:46] <anto9us> crisco, do you have the same version as me? realplayer_10.0.6-0.1_i386.deb
[04:46] <destroyer> i disabled it
[04:46] <crisco> its on my desktop
[04:47] <sklav> destroyer, send me your conf
[04:47] <mc|amb> destroyer: the built-in one?
[04:47] <P00f> anyone running 64bit AMD processors and ATI graphics card? do we need to instal la 32 bit version of Ubuntu to make the drivers work?
[04:47] <destroyer> smb.conf?
[04:47] <Delvien> nalioth you there?
[04:47] <sklav> would help to see where the issue is
[04:47] <mc|amb> destroyer: yep
[04:47] <nalioth> Delvien: yes
[04:47] <sklav> i mean are your XP stations part of the domain?
[04:47] <crisco> on my desktop it days realplayerGOLD10.rpm and the other downloadable file is a .bin file
[04:47] <Delvien> nalioth do you know how to fix Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-dm" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.?
[04:48] <nalioth> Delvien: what gave you that error?
[04:48] <sklav> or a group?
[04:48] <Delvien> nalioth anytime i sudo a app ( yes i know , ) but administration mode gives me this
[04:48] <Delvien> Nalioth it prevents me from changing some stuff
[04:48] <Strike4ce>  I can easily connect to my wireless router at home but anywhere else it will not work?
[04:49] <anto9us> crisco, you can find it here ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/r/realplay/realplayer_10.0.6-0.1_i386.deb
[04:49] <Sionide> !rar
[04:49] <ubotu> well, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[04:49] <Strike4ce> Can anyone help?
[04:49] <destroyer> both are part of a gropu
[04:49] <destroyer> sorry a domain
[04:49] <destroyer> well..a workgroup
[04:49] <destroyer> thats how in windows call it
[04:49] <nemik> how would i get a shell/bash script to echo out my REAL IP address (not the one given to the computer by the router) ?
[04:49] <sklav> are you running proffessional or home edition?
[04:50] <destroyer> pro
[04:50] <nalioth> Delvien: i'd suggest renaming it
[04:50] <sklav> home edition has issues with workgroup / domains
[04:50] <sklav> ok
[04:50] <sklav> well its working for me
[04:50] <crimsun> nemik: depends whether your router gives you access to it
[04:50] <Strike4ce> Should I change it to master?
[04:50] <Delvien> nalioth rename it to what?
[04:50] <cafuego> nemik: lynx -dump http://www.cc.com.au/ip.php
[04:50] <nemik> thank you cafuego!
[04:50] <destroyer> ok who do i send you my conf file?
[04:50] <nalioth> Delvien: er, kdecache-dm-bak maybe?
[04:50] <sklav> paste the first 40 lines to me in a perosnal msg
[04:50] <aeruder> to 64-bit or not to 64-bit, that is the question. :)
[04:50] <crisco> now what do i put in the box
[04:50] <sklav> even better
[04:50] <Delvien> nalioth ive tried removing it complety but it creates the file again, and has the same error
[04:51] <sklav> what is your wrkgroup?
[04:51] <cafuego> aeruder: You a fan of java and flash applets on websites? Do any video viewing?
[04:51] <anto9us> crisco, that would be sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/realplayer_10.0.6-0.1_i386.deb
[04:51] <Doonz> so how is the 64 bit apps support coming along?
[04:51] <sklav> i will put my file for download
[04:51] <sklav> what is your wrkgroup
[04:51] <destroyer> LAN
[04:51] <sklav> ok 2 minutes
[04:51] <sklav> i will put it on my download section
[04:51] <nalioth> Delvien: are you using kdesu to start your root kde apps?
[04:51] <crisco> i put that in the "real player has been downloaded to where" bix?
[04:51] <crisco> box*
[04:51] <anto9us> crisco, no, cancel that
[04:52] <crisco> ok so cancelled
[04:52] <sklav> go to www.sklav.com
[04:53] <Strike4ce> Why cant I connect to other access points?  Curently I can only use my home wireless connection.   Is there an easy way around this?
[04:53] <sklav> download section
[04:53] <anto9us> crisco, now sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/realplayer_10.0.6-0.1_i386.deb
[04:53] <Delvien> nalioth what happened was ( at the time i didnt know ) i ran sudo k3b and it crashed, and screwed up my KDEcache-root and stuff
[04:53] <sklav> you will see smb.conf
[04:53] <sklav> try it
[04:53] <destroyer> i am irc noob lol
[04:53] <crisco> in the terminal
[04:53] <destroyer> how i will download it?
[04:53] <destroyer> first time using these
[04:53] <anto9us> crisco, yes
[04:53] <sklav> you will obviously need to modify it after to fine tune it
[04:53] <Strike4ce> Can anyone help?
[04:53] <sklav> example the sahres
[04:53] <sklav> use firefox
[04:53] <nalioth> Delvien: if you rename it, your system should remake a new one with the proper permissions
[04:53] <destroyer> its down
[04:53] <destroyer> i cant download it
[04:54] <sklav> put it in /etc/samba
[04:54] <Delvien> nalioth anyway to do that in terminal , GUI isnt letting me
[04:54] <destroyer> i cant download anything from your webpage
[04:54] <Delvien> nalioth says the name "bleh" isnt valid
[04:54] <destroyer> btw its nice :
[04:54] <destroyer> :D
[04:54] <sklav> try it now
[04:54] <nalioth> Delvien: of course, in the konsole, go to that dir
[04:55] <sklav> right click and save as
[04:55] <destroyer> u don't have permission to access /Downloads/smb.conf on this server.
[04:55] <destroyer> Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
[04:55] <sklav> weird
[04:55] <Strike4ce> I need help with my wireless and tthe guide isnt working.
[04:55] <destroyer> nop}
[04:55] <sklav> i downloaded a bunch of pdf today
[04:55] <Delvien> nalioth ok whats the command hehe
[04:55] <destroyer> its down
[04:56] <Strike4ce> I dont understand why I cannot connect to other wireless access points?
[04:56] <destroyer> give me the path of the file
[04:56] <destroyer> on the host
[04:56] <sklav> weird
[04:56] <destroyer> so i can download it
[04:56] <sklav> it works from ie
[04:56] <sklav> but not firefox
[04:56] <nalioth> Delvien: "sudo mv /var/tmp/kdecache-dm /var/tmp/kdecache-dm-bak"
[04:57] <destroyer> any other idea?
[04:57] <crisco> well thanx for your help :) it didt work however
[04:57] <Delvien> nalioth now restart X
[04:57] <sklav> what is ur email address
[04:57] <sklav> msg it to me
[04:57] <anto9us> crisco, what was the error?
[04:58] <destroyer> i gave it to you
[04:58] <destroyer> in the private msg
[04:58] <Delvien> nalioth ?
[04:58] <sklav> i didnt get it
[04:58] <destroyer> and you didnt get the lines ?
[04:58] <nalioth> Delvien: what?
[04:58] <sklav> nope
[04:58] <crisco> cannot access archive: no such file or directory
[04:58] <Delvien> nalioth do i ahve to restart X or try a sudo again
[04:58] <destroyer> you cant see what i am writting...
[04:58] <destroyer> jesus
[04:58] <destroyer> i am writting to you
[04:58] <destroyer> ramon_madrid@hotmail.com
[04:58] <nalioth> Delvien: what are you sudo'ing?
[04:59] <anto9us> crisco, did you download from here? ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/r/realplay/realplayer_10.0.6-0.1_i386.deb
[04:59] <Delvien> nalioth system settings in KDE , so i can get my Administration mode and Wireless card working
[04:59] <destroyer> hey you can send me the file
[04:59] <destroyer> from here
[04:59] <destroyer> just use send
[04:59] <crisco> if it makes any difference- i just started this-so it has nothing but what comes with the cd
[04:59] <destroyer> and thats it
[04:59] <crisco> yeah i downloaded it
[04:59] <nalioth> Delvien: dont ever sudo a kde app, use kdesu instead
[04:59] <destroyer> sklav?
[04:59] <crisco> i still have the downloads box open
[05:00] <crisco> it didnt put an icon or anything on my desktop
[05:00] <nalioth> Delvien: that is maybe what caused your problem
[05:00] <anto9us> crisco, it saved to your Desktop?
[05:00] <Delvien> nalioth aye
[05:00] <crisco> it says on the bottom all files are downloaded to : desktop
[05:00] <crisco> it says on the bottom all files are downloaded to : desktop
[05:00] <anto9us> crisco, now sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/realplayer_10.0.6-0.1_i386.deb
[05:00] <Strike4ce> I dont understand why I cannot connect to other wireless access points?
[05:00] <anto9us> crisco, do that in a terminal
[05:01] <Delvien> nalioth i cant seem to get my wireless card to enable, even with kdesu
[05:01] <odat> anyone know how to trouble shoot glx / opengl problems with nvidia cards?
[05:01] <sklav> I just sent it by email
[05:02] <nalioth> Delvien: i'm pretty lost on wireless. just remember if it's a kde gui app you need root privs for, use kdesu
[05:02] <destroyer> just right click on my nickname
[05:02] <destroyer> and use send file
[05:02] <destroyer> thats it
[05:02] <Delvien> nalioth ok
[05:02] <sklav> its on a diff machine
[05:02] <sklav> i have 3 stations
[05:02] <Delvien> nalioth thanks bro
[05:02] <sklav> check your hotmail account'
[05:02] <sklav> it should be there shortly
[05:03] <sklav> just comment out the shares
[05:03] <Strike4ce> nalioth what if you use sudo?
[05:03] <destroyer> what shares?
[05:03] <destroyer> the share command?
[05:03] <sklav> i have some shares specified in the file
[05:03] <anto9us> crisco, I forgot something, first you need to sudo apt-get install realplayer
[05:03] <destroyer> oh  ok
[05:03] <nalioth> Strike4ce: it messes up your user space (permissions and such)
[05:03] <destroyer> you mean your share files
[05:03] <sklav> yes
[05:03] <crisco> oh ok
[05:03] <sklav> but they are in the conf i sent you
[05:03] <nalioth> Strike4ce: you should use gksudo (gnome) and kdesu (kde) to open gui apps as root
[05:03] <Strike4ce> nalioth would it mess up wireless?
[05:04] <destroyer> ok i have a questiong
[05:04] <destroyer> question*
[05:04] <sklav> sure
[05:04] <nalioth> Strike4ce: have no idea
[05:04] <destroyer> how you put the security?
[05:04] <destroyer> useR?
[05:04] <eolo999> hi guys ,i've a problem with sound in breezy...
[05:04] <sklav> user
[05:04] <destroyer> or username password?
[05:04] <sklav> is the easiest
[05:04] <destroyer> and used a file for users?
[05:04] <destroyer> ok
[05:04] <destroyer> how do i navigate with samba?
[05:05] <destroyer> or the network server in the places menu make the job?
[05:05] <crisco> it says o upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded
[05:05] <sklav> it does the job
[05:05] <eolo999> when i click on the mixer icon in desktop it says it has no volume control device!! someone can help me?
[05:05] <sklav> im new to ubuntu
[05:05] <sklav> so im getting used to the tools
[05:05] <destroyer> theres not another program like smb4k
[05:05] <destroyer> for ubuntu?
[05:05] <sklav> been using centos redhat for the longest time
[05:05] <destroyer> i see
[05:05] <destroyer> i just installed this linux since a week
[05:06] <sklav> it works ;)
[05:06] <destroyer> and with the forums i configured my nvidia drivers, sound and everything
[05:06] <sklav> that is a good sign
[05:06] <eolo999> kernel modules for sound are recognized, alsa is installed, but...
[05:06] <destroyer> just need the network and the games working and thats all sending windows to trash lol
[05:07] <sklav> network will work
[05:07] <sklav> games depends what
[05:07] <sklav> hehe
[05:07] <destroyer> i have the cedega
[05:07] <sklav> there is always civ
[05:07] <eolo999> hey someone read my post
[05:07] <eolo999> ???
[05:07] <murtaugh> im trying to compile a driver. is the kernel_tree required?
[05:07] <destroyer> but the problem is the architecture
[05:07] <destroyer> 686
[05:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> can someone help me get gmailfs working?
[05:07] <destroyer> cedega doesnt support it
[05:07] <sklav> im not even sure what cedega is
[05:07] <destroyer> an emulator
[05:08] <destroyer> like wine
[05:08] <sklav> ah
[05:08] <anto9us> crisco, sudo apt-get update and try again
[05:08] <destroyer> www.transgaming.com
[05:08] <destroyer> how old are you?
[05:08] <crisco> ok
[05:08] <eolo999> sound problem, help please
[05:08] <sklav> im 29
[05:08] <destroyer> oh
[05:08] <destroyer> i am 10
[05:08] <sklav> and cheating alredy
[05:08] <sklav> hehe
[05:09] <murtaugh> wow 10 and running linux?
[05:09] <crisco> anto9us, it did all this crazy stuff and now says done
[05:09] <murtaugh> nice work
[05:09] <destroyer> you cheating?
[05:09] <anto9us> crisco, now try apt-get install realplayer
[05:09] <destroyer> sorry about my english it sux
[05:09] <sklav> cheating meaning i sent you a preped smb.conf
[05:09] <sklav> took me month to figure out samba when i started
[05:09] <destroyer> oh :( yea
[05:09] <destroyer> sorry
[05:10] <sklav> lol
[05:10] <sklav> doesnt bother me
[05:10] <bur[n] er> 10 and on irc... what kinda parents do you have anyway geez ;)
[05:10] <destroyer> but i dont receive it jet
[05:10] <sklav> some people learn by seeing examples
[05:10] <crisco> it said permission denied
[05:10] <destroyer> not in linux
[05:10] <destroyer> hey but i read all the topics about samba
[05:10] <anto9us> crisco, sorry, sudo apt-get install realplayer
[05:11] <destroyer> and i didnt figure out how to make it work
[05:11] <destroyer> thats why i came here i am really near to quit it and just use the remote
[05:11] <crisco> it repeated what it said before
[05:11] <sklav> destroyer trial and error is your friend
[05:11] <crisco> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:11] <crisco> crisco@Debbie:~$ sudo apt-get install realplayer
[05:11] <crisco> Reading package lists... Done
[05:11] <crisco> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:11] <crisco> realplayer is already the newest version.
[05:11] <crisco> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[05:11] <destroyer> :D i know
[05:11] <crisco> crisco@Debbie:~$
[05:11] <destroyer> send it bye irc
[05:11] <destroyer> by
[05:12] <destroyer> or to my other account
[05:12] <destroyer> ramonmadrid@cwpanama.net
[05:12] <anto9us> crisco, look at Applications | Sound and Video, is Real Player 10 in there?
[05:12] <crisco> yes the icon is there
[05:12] <bur[n] er> realplayer... bleh... why not just use totem to play real player files?
[05:12] <anto9us> crisco, click it
[05:12] <crisco> i did-it does nothing
[05:13] <crisco> it says starting realplayer
[05:13] <crisco> then dissapears
[05:13] <anto9us> crisco, that's the .bin version, I don't know how to remove it
[05:13] <crisco> ahh-lol
[05:13] <crisco> its coool
[05:14] <destroyer> thx
[05:14] <crisco> thanx for your help thus far
[05:14] <sklav> hope it helps
[05:14] <sklav> destroyer stop using hotmail it sucks
[05:14] <sklav> 10 minutes and still no email
[05:14] <mloskot> AFAIK ndiswrapper.ko comes with Ubuntu 5.10 kernel but why all HOWTOS about ndiswrapper installs ndiswrapper-source package but not mention any compilation step?
[05:14] <destroyer> ok
[05:14] <destroyer> i have gmail too
[05:14] <destroyer> lol
[05:14] <destroyer> i should gave it to you
[05:15] <K_Dallas> gmail is usally very fast
[05:15] <K_Dallas> i have had no problem with 30gigs.com either
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> use abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz.com for your free email!
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use "Linuxmail.org"
[05:15] <K_Dallas> sure, thanks for the suggestion
[05:15] <sklav> i just use postfix / squirrelmail ;)
[05:15] <anto9us> crisco; try sudo apt-get install -f realplayer
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> the  abc.... one is funny however.
[05:16] <sklav> awesome no limits full bandwidth
[05:17] <Entranced> any apache masters in here ?
[05:17] <sklav> no master but might be able to help
[05:17] <Entranced> well...not necessarily masters
[05:17] <Entranced> :)
[05:17] <destroyer> ok i paste it
[05:17] <mloskot> Hehe, abc..."Education is the key to unlock the golden door of freedom" my friend says "get all those keys and you will be able to become a janitor" :-)))
[05:17] <destroyer> now it should work ?
[05:17] <Entranced> lemme explain my dillema
[05:18] <sklav> sure
[05:18] <destroyer> i have to restart the samba?
[05:18] <sklav> yes destroyer
[05:18] <sklav> or the changes will not take effect
[05:18] <destroyer> ok done
[05:18] <destroyer> lets see
[05:18] <sklav> any change to smb.conf needs a restart
[05:18] <sklav> also you should see you linux box in windows network neighboorhood
[05:19] <Entranced>  my default location for web-related filesis  "home/www/mysite.com" That location has permissions for user/group set to www-data. I am able to access the content through browser no problem. The problem I'm having is accessing that same directory through ssh (I have permission denied to my own dir). The root set up my word-press for me, but I can't manage anything through ssh.
[05:19] <Entranced>  Another thing is that when I change user permissions on home/www/mysite.com to my user ID, I am able to ssh into the box... but the website doesn't work through browser (Permission denied error occurs)
[05:19] <destroyer> nop
[05:19] <destroyer> i dont
[05:19] <sklav> takes a few seconds for windows to
[05:20] <sklav> Entranced, you need to make sure apache group has access to that share
[05:20] <destroyer> how i do that?
[05:20] <destroyer> not workign klav
[05:20] <sklav> destroyer do what?
[05:20] <Entranced> sklav, it does (www-data permissions are set on that directory)
[05:20] <destroyer> :(
[05:20] <destroyer> sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[05:20] <sklav> ok but your user is not part of www-data
[05:21] <sklav> group
[05:21] <destroyer> i did that
[05:21] <sklav> yes destroyer
[05:21] <destroyer> well nothing happens
[05:21] <sklav> wait a few seconds
[05:21] <sklav> on windows xp you should see your machine
[05:21] <sklav> in groups
[05:21] <destroyer> where i have to put my ip?
[05:21] <sklav> /etc/groups
[05:21] <sklav> you dont smb protocol uses broadcast
[05:21] <Entranced> sklav, that is correct I'm not part of the www-data group (wouldn't that be a risky thing to give regular user permissions of a www-data group ?)
[05:22] <sklav> yes
[05:22] <sklav> i thought you needed for admin reasons
[05:22] <sklav> the setup i use is somewhat different
[05:22] <sklav> i leave everything under /var/www/somedomain.com
[05:22] <Entranced> well, I'm not sure what happened...before I was able to ssh and the website was OK as well.... now it is either or ...
[05:23] <destroyer> whats the command for watch my ip on linux?
[05:23] <sklav> ipconfig
[05:23] <destroyer> like ipconfig
[05:23] <sklav> ifconfig
[05:23] <Delvien> can anyone help me with this ? can anyone help me with tihs ? http://pastebin.com/417895
[05:23] <sklav> Entranced, when you say either or?
[05:23] <Entranced> well...
[05:24] <destroyer> it doesnt work .-..
[05:24] <destroyer> i gave windows like 10 mins lol
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> i dont see how the permissions on the www dir would affect you sshing in.
[05:24] <sklav> are u on windows now?
[05:24] <destroyer> no
[05:24] <destroyer> on linux
[05:24] <destroyer> and the other one on windows
[05:24] <sklav> ok
[05:25] <Entranced> if I change permissions from www-data to my user ID, the website doesn't display (permission denied), and when the permissions are set to www-data then I have no accesss through ssh to the websites root directory
[05:25] <sklav> on windows in network neighborhood
[05:25] <sklav> nothing shows up if you refresh it?
[05:25] <destroyer> nop
[05:25] <destroyer> it should but ...nop
[05:25] <sklav> u sure windows is on LAN domain?
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> you mean you cant access the Dir.. you can SSH in...
[05:26] <destroyer> yea
[05:26] <destroyer> cuz that my workgroup when i have both on windows
[05:26] <destroyer> and it works
[05:26] <sklav> destroyer, is there a firewall on linux?
[05:26] <destroyer> on windows everything goes good
[05:26] <destroyer> nop
[05:26] <destroyer> i am naked
[05:26] <destroyer> :(
[05:27] <destroyer> dont try anything geeks lol
[05:27] <sklav> is samba even running?
[05:27] <psusi> your network is behind a nat/firewall/router right?
[05:27] <sklav> try /etc/init.d/samba status
[05:27] <destroyer> how should i know it?
[05:27] <destroyer> * Usage: /etc/init.d/samba {start|stop|reload|restart|force-reload}
[05:27] <destroyer> thats what it said
[05:28] <sklav> 1 sec
[05:28] <destroyer> why linux have to be so hard
[05:28] <destroyer> lol
[05:28] <aeruder> destroyer: you should see me try to use windows
[05:28] <destroyer> meet linux meet pain
[05:28] <aeruder> destroyer: i get laughed at
[05:28] <aeruder> :)
[05:29] <sklav> try this   less /var/run/samba/nmbd.pid
[05:29] <sklav> and less /var/run/samba/smbd.pid
[05:29] <destroyer> 10461
[05:29] <destroyer> thats what it says
[05:29] <rrbiz> Video card setup any help with that here anyone?
[05:30] <sklav> what is your ip?
[05:30] <sklav> internal
[05:30] <sklav> is it 192.168.1.x
[05:30] <sklav> or something else?
[05:30] <destroyer> ifconfig?
[05:30] <sklav> yes
[05:30] <sklav> what is your internal ip?
[05:31] <destroyer> i cant see any ip with 192.168.1.x
[05:31] <destroyer> is a dhcp
[05:31] <destroyer> the inet address?
[05:31] <sklav> well your problem might be your network
[05:31] <qzio> where can i find sources for msttcorefont?
[05:31] <sklav> is dhcp running on linux?
[05:31] <destroyer> how i configure it?
[05:31] <destroyer> yep
[05:31] <sklav> i know your on the internet
[05:31] <destroyer> lol
[05:32] <sklav> ok
[05:32] <destroyer> the ethernet is set dhcp
[05:32] <sklav> how many network cards in your linux machine
[05:32] <destroyer> one
[05:32] <sklav> i know
[05:32] <sklav> there is your problem
[05:32] <destroyer> why?
[05:32] <sklav> you cant be on the network and on the internet
[05:32] <sklav> they dont have the same netblock
[05:32] <destroyer> why not?
[05:32] <destroyer> in windows it does
[05:32] <Agrajag> what?
[05:32] <sklav> internal ip and external ip
[05:33] <destroyer> i am using a switch
[05:33] <destroyer> for the internet
[05:33] <Agrajag> sklav: whatever you're smoking, please, cut back
[05:33] <sklav> ok
[05:33] <destroyer> its cable modem
[05:33] <sklav> Agrajag, in smb
[05:33] <sklav> can a non routable ip see a routable ip
[05:33] <destroyer> agrajag help us
[05:33] <Agrajag> let me see the smb.conf file
[05:33] <Agrajag> and I will show you mine
[05:34] <Agrajag> ohman it's like 1st grade all over again
[05:34] <sklav> you remember that far back :)
[05:34] <Agrajag> http://student.ucr.edu/~abneyw01/smb.conf
[05:34] <Agrajag> very simple, read-only access on the linux host in that file
[05:35] <sklav> yes
[05:35] <destroyer> thats the smb.conf
[05:35] <destroyer> :(
[05:35] <Agrajag> set up the same way?
[05:35] <Agrajag> Can the two machines ping each other?
[05:35] <sklav> i sent him my file
[05:35] <sklav> similar more comments
[05:35] <qzio> I want to install win true type fonts, (verdana, arial etc) it says something about msttcorefonts in the forum, but i've enabled "universe" but apt-cache search mstt does not find the package
[05:35] <destroyer> yea
[05:35] <sklav> then what is the ip?
[05:36] <destroyer> you dont ahve the netbios sklav
[05:36] <qzio> it's really wierd becouse i installed the package like... 3 days ago, but this is a new install..
[05:36] <Agrajag> destroyer: they can ping each other by number? Have you tried smbclient -L <ipaddress>?
[05:36] <destroyer> i didnt tried that but i try with ping
[05:36] <destroyer> on windows
[05:36] <sklav> if netbios is not defined system uses the histname
[05:36] <destroyer> and the app on system tools in ubuntu
[05:36] <destroyer> and it worked
[05:36] <Agrajag> try smbclient, it'll ask for a passwor,d just hit enter
[05:36] <sklav> destroyer what did you ping from windows?
[05:37] <Agrajag> you should see a list of shares on that machine
[05:37] <destroyer> ping ip_adrress
[05:37] <sklav> what is the ipaddress?
[05:37] <sklav> is the question
[05:37] <thrush> qzio: im seeing it prob in multiverse
[05:38] <destroyer> ok i made the smbclient -L <ipaddress>?
[05:39] <destroyer> and it didnt work
[05:39] <destroyer> but on windows i can ping
[05:39] <destroyer> my linux
[05:39] <destroyer> comp
[05:39] <Agrajag> destroyer: you ran smbclient -L <ipaddress>?
[05:39] <sklav> what are you pining?
[05:39] <sklav> hostname?
[05:39] <sklav> ip address?
[05:39] <destroyer> and it works
[05:39] <destroyer> ip address
[05:39] <Agrajag> you need to replace that with the ip address...
[05:39] <Agrajag> ok
[05:39] <qzio> thrush: tried it already... i can do it again
[05:39] <destroyer> i did  i am not that noob lol
[05:39] <Agrajag> and what happened?
[05:40] <destroyer> error conecting
[05:40] <sklav> his network is messed
[05:40] <sklav> 1 nic card
[05:40] <Blake_Seven> Hi all I just installed brezzy for the first time. What command do I give to set static ip at 192.168.1.15 and gateway at 192.168.1.1 ?
[05:40] <sklav> what is you ip destroyer
[05:40] <destroyer> for what?
[05:40] <holycow> Blake_Seven, just use gui
[05:40] <holycow> system / admin / netowkring
[05:40] <sklav> to see if its a internet ip
[05:41] <destroyer> it begins with 218...
[05:41] <sklav> ok
[05:41] <destroyer> 201.218...
[05:41] <sklav> what is the windows ip
[05:41] <destroyer> 201.218....
[05:41] <Blake_Seven> Don't want gui. I am seting up server and don't want gui overhead
[05:41] <sklav> 110.132
[05:41] <sklav> i know that
[05:41] <destroyer> the last numbers are different
[05:41] <sklav> what is the ip on windows
[05:41] <qzio> thrush: nope, they where in multiverse, i spelled it wrong before.
[05:42] <Agrajag> destroyer: wait
[05:42] <destroyer> 201.218.
[05:42] <qzio> thanks
[05:42] <destroyer> lol
[05:42] <Agrajag> destroyer: you said you were using a switch?
[05:42] <Agrajag> connected straight to a cable modem?
[05:42] <destroyer> yep
[05:42] <destroyer> yep
[05:42] <sklav> i told you it wont work
[05:42] <Agrajag> I'm surprised your ISp lets you do that
[05:42] <destroyer> why?
[05:42] <Agrajag> Get a NAT box before you get hacked
[05:42] <Agrajag> because most won't give you multiple IP addresses
[05:43] <w0rd0r> Agrajag: hacked? naw it's just "donating"
[05:43] <destroyer> i know i know
[05:43] <destroyer> lol
[05:43] <w0rd0r> people need rooted boxes
[05:43] <mlalkaka> hi everyone
[05:43] <w0rd0r> and people need to provide them lol ;)
[05:43] <thrush> arg! unrar a 2 gig file and it fails at 99% ARRG!
[05:43] <sklav> hehe
[05:43] <destroyer> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[05:43] <destroyer> you are scaring me people
[05:43] <sklav> destroyer
[05:43] <destroyer> dont make me install a firewall plz
[05:43] <sklav> u need 1
[05:44] <sklav> are you using like a linksys switch?
[05:44] <sklav> or router?
[05:44] <Agrajag> no, he just needs a NAT box so his computers can see each other and so that he's somewhat protected
[05:44] <destroyer> linksys
[05:44] <destroyer> not router
[05:44] <sklav> ok
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> a little blue linksys switch? :P
[05:44] <GTroy> I'm using breezy, how do I boot a live cd?
[05:44] <destroyer> whats a NAT box
[05:44] <destroyer> ?
[05:44] <mlalkaka> i'm currently a debian user planning to switch to ubuntu. i wondering about this statement on ubuntu's website: "Each release is supported with free security updates and fixes for at least 18 months." does this mean after 18 months i have to get another ubuntu cd and upgrade my OS in order to get security updates; or can this upgrade of operating system be done over the internet as well?
[05:44] <GTroy> if breezy is installed?
[05:45] <Agrajag> destroyer: those things they call "routers" but really aren't
[05:45] <destroyer> whats a NAT box?
[05:45] <Madpilot> mlalkaka: you can do dist-upgrades
[05:45] <Agrajag> like the linksys WRT54G
[05:45] <mustard5> mlalkaka, no..you can upgrade via apt-get
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> mlalkaka,  apt-get SOMTHING to update to the latest version :P
[05:45] <destroyer> ok
[05:45] <destroyer> a router then
[05:45] <Mason059> you can upgrade over the net using apt mlalkaka
[05:45] <Agrajag> not really, but that's what they call them
[05:45] <mlalkaka> Madpilot, mustard5, Dr_Willis, Mason059: thanks
[05:45] <destroyer> so... you cant help me with my network?
[05:46] <Mason059> np mlalkaka
[05:46] <sklav> i thought smb wont route over internet ips
[05:46] <destroyer> why windows does?
[05:46] <Agrajag> it had better not
[05:46] <sklav> cause the ISP blocks them
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> sklav,  i dont think its supposed to.
[05:46] <mlalkaka> also is it possible to install ubuntu without formatting/creating a home directory, since i would like to preserve the one i have right now.
[05:46] <sklav> and destroyer is using 2 valid ip to try and use smb
[05:46] <destroyer> well windows use the gateway
[05:46] <mustard5> mlalkaka, the expert install option allows you greater control over partitioning
[05:47] <bris> salut
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> it pays to have backups jkust in case.
[05:47] <mustard5> mlalkaka, you can choose which partitions to format (or not) and the mount points
[05:47] <destroyer> what should i do?
[05:47] <mlalkaka> mustard5, oh. perfect :)
[05:47] <GTroy> hmmm, how do I get ubuntu to boot a live cd?
[05:47] <Blake_Seven> how do i set ip address from command line ?
[05:47] <mustard5> mlalkaka, default install just uses the whole drive
[05:48] <nathanj> whats does thge little ubuntu logo mean next to packages in synaptic?
[05:48] <sklav> destroyer get a router or make 1 with your linux system
[05:48] <mustard5> mlalkaka, or I should say jsut installs to ONE partition
[05:48] <sklav> its the easist option fro you now
[05:48] <destroyer> make one?
[05:48] <destroyer> lolll
[05:48] <sklav> yes
[05:48] <destroyer> how i do that
[05:48] <sklav> linux is so powerfull
[05:48] <sklav> hehe
[05:49] <sklav> u setup iptables
[05:49] <destroyer> i cant even make a lan how you think i will make a router lol
[05:49] <sklav> to allow routing from internal computers to the net
[05:49] <mustard5> mlalkaka, you can hit F1 for help on install options when the install disk boots up
[05:49] <sklav> im teasing you
[05:49] <sklav> so you dont give up
[05:49] <mlalkaka> mustard5, what's the recommended partition setup? do you think it's better to keep everything on one partition or on two separate partitions: one for system files and one for home directories?
[05:49] <sklav> think of all the power
[05:49] <destroyer> ok ...answer me why windows does?
[05:50] <sklav> i dont know your network setup
[05:50] <destroyer> how windows see the network and give me internet at the same time
[05:50] <esc_ape> mlakaka - having a separate /home partition just makes reinstallations easier...
[05:50] <StarKruzr> who's around tonight?
[05:50] <regeya>  /who
[05:50] <mustard5> mlalkaka, I prefer seperate /home for clean installs without losing configs..
[05:50] <sklav> windows is borked
[05:50] <destroyer> lol
[05:50] <sklav> i dont know
[05:51] <esc_ape> ub3rborkd
[05:51] <StarKruzr> meh
[05:51] <regeya> windows has been attacked by the swedish chef?
[05:51] <StarKruzr> why bother, mustard
[05:51] <ksmurf> hey all.  I installed network-monitor on my laptop but it seems to be loading twice ( I have to enter my keyring pass twice)...... where or how do I find this and how can I change it?
[05:51] <bigfoot1> i'm trying to get the latest version of a package ("opensync) via "subversion. http://www.opensync.org/wiki/download#subversion. How do i do this?
[05:51] <nekostar> heh
[05:51] <nekostar> that like
[05:51] <nekostar> the FIRST time i heard or said that :D
[05:51] <regeya> the bot needs a partitioning war rule
[05:51] <regeya> !start a partitioning war
[05:51] <ubotu> regeya: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:51] <bigfoot1> it said i must do this command: "svn co http://svn.opensync.org/trunk opensync". but how exactly do i do this command?
[05:51] <bigfoot1> i'm a newbie
[05:51] <regeya> seriously, the bot needs to have a '!start a partitioning war' rule
[05:51] <StarKruzr> is it true that you don't really need a swap partition anymore?
[05:52] <ksmurf> !war
[05:52] <ubotu> ksmurf: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:52] <regeya> bogfppt1" apt-get install subversion first
[05:52] <bigfoot1> regeya: thank you!
[05:52] <regeya> bigfoot1: apt-get install subversion first.
[05:52] <regeya> np
[05:52] <sklav> cd
[05:52] <StarKruzr> i.e. Linux will dynamically allocate swap as needed?
[05:52] <StarKruzr> ls
[05:52] <imc1> Hey, just upgraded to breezy on this notebook and everything works except double-tap and drag on the mousepad.
[05:52] <mustard5> mlalkaka, I am pretty sure there is a tool in the expert install that sort of automatically partitions your drive according to space available and assigns seperate mount points.  It seems to divide the space up nicely, but this might entail losing your /home the first time around
[05:52] <Entranced> imc1, install synaptics
[05:53] <imc1> double-tap to select or double-click still works. Entranced, synaptics? What be that?
[05:53] <mlalkaka> mustard5, yeah i think i'll have to back up my home dir
[05:53] <sklav> later all im going to play socom 3
[05:53] <Agrajag> StarKruzr: what, no
[05:53] <sklav> ;)
[05:53] <mustard5> mlalkaka, k well good luck :)
[05:53] <mlalkaka> mustard5, thanks
[05:53] <Agrajag> StarKruzr: where did you hear that?
[05:54] <bigfoot1> is there a webpage that will teach me how to do all the things that synaptic does, but only in a CLI?
[05:54] <imc1> Entranced, what's synaptics?
[05:54] <Entranced> imc1, just check
[05:54] <Entranced> if it is installed
[05:54] <Entranced> This package provides an input driver for the X.Org X server to enable
[05:54] <Entranced> advanced features of the Synaptics Touchpad including:
[05:54] <bigfoot1> for example : sudo apt-get install .... , sudo apt-get remove ....
[05:54] <lymz> hey ubuntu, i'm having trouble getting sound working on my brother's computer, it's a Dell Dimension 3000
[05:54] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: search the Ubuntu wiki, I think the page is called AptGetHowto
[05:55] <EnsignRedshirt> I have a win2000 computer and an ubuntu computer on my home network. I can ssh from either of them to my office computer, but I can't ssh (ie with putty or winscp) from the win2000 computer to Ubuntu.  sshd is running on the Ubuntu computer.
[05:55] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: thank you.
[05:55] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: found it - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[05:55] <EnsignRedshirt> I get a "Connection timed out" error when I try to connect from the win2000 computer to the ubuntu computer.
[05:56] <ngutwirth> yo how do i check my ubuntu version in the terminal thing?
[05:56] <bigfoot1> hi pupil
[05:56] <EnsignRedshirt> The ubuntu ip on my local network is 192.168.1.100, and that is the address I am using to try to connect to from the win2000 computer.
[05:56] <bigfoot1> pupil, believe it
[05:56] <adamjone> any advice on how to install w32codecs?
[05:57] <pupil> bigfoot1, Ahhhh, a ray of light
[05:57] <ngutwirth> anyone know? How can i check my ubuntu version in the terminal
[05:57] <holycow> EnsignRedshirt, do you have firestarter running perhaps?
[05:57] <mustard5> ubotu: tell adamjone about w32codecs
[05:57] <imc1> Entranced, can't find it in apt-get or the application installer. Just installed tpconfig but can't seem to launch it.
[05:57] <ngutwirth> hey mustard
[05:58] <mustard5> hey ngutwirth :)
[05:58] <ngutwirth> do u know how
[05:58] <ngutwirth> :-/
[05:58] <mustard5> adamjone, check PM from ubotu
[05:58] <ngutwirth> someone told me before
[05:58] <ngutwirth> but i dont remember
[05:58] <Entranced> imc1, if you use Synaptic (package manager), try searching for synaptics (with an S at the end) and see if it is installed
[05:58] <mustard5> ngutwirth, your kernel version or whether you have breezy or hoary?
[05:58] <lymz> can anyone point me to how i can fix my sound?
[05:58] <ngutwirth> i wanna check that
[05:58] <mustard5> ngutwirth, uname -r gives you a kernel version
[05:58] <bigfoot1> anybody here use opensync on their breezy ubuntu computer?
[05:59] <EnsignRedshirt> holycow: Good call. In fact, I have firestarter installed.
[05:59] <ngutwirth> 2.6.12-9-386
[05:59] <ngutwirth> ?
[05:59] <mustard5> ngutwirth, you have breezy if you have your terminal menu in Applications>>Accessories :)
[05:59] <holycow> it will by default stop everything except outbound
[05:59] <ngutwirth> do i have 5.10
[05:59] <ngutwirth> or 5.4
[05:59] <ngutwirth> 5.10 is newer right?
[05:59] <mustard5> I have 5.10
[06:00] <mustard5> oh
[06:00] <mustard5> hehe
[06:00] <ngutwirth> how can i check if i have 5.10
[06:00] <mustard5> soz
[06:00] <Agrajag> ngutwirth: cat /etc/lsb-release
[06:00] <mustard5> Agrajag, thanks
[06:00] <ngutwirth> 5.10 breezy :-)
[06:00] <ngutwirth> ok nice
[06:00] <mustard5> Agrajag, I been wondering the same thing
[06:00] <charlie5> hi ... i have trouble using festival speech synth with ubu (hoary) ... i install with synaptic, enter festival, but it just hangs when i try to get it to talk ... can anyone suggest a possible cause or cure ... thanks
[06:00] <ngutwirth> thats the newest right
[06:01] <mustard5> ngutwirth, correct
[06:01] <ngutwirth> if there is an update for the OS, will it be in update manager
[06:01] <ngutwirth> or would i have to get it manually
[06:01] <Agrajag> charlie5: system>preferences>sound, and sdisable the sound server, see if that fixes it
[06:01] <EnsignRedshirt> holycow: That's probably the problem.  I'm about to dig for docs about firestarter, but if there is a quick fix...  (maybe something like "allow from 192.168.1.*"...?)
[06:01] <mustard5> ngutwirth, you manually do dist-upgrades
[06:02] <mahangu> charlie5, try killall esd
[06:02] <ngutwirth> ok
[06:02] <holycow> EnsignRedshirt, well, just learn how to use it
[06:02] <mahangu> in the shell before you do it
[06:02] <ngutwirth> oh 1 mor thing
[06:02] <mustard5> ngutwirth, updates will only show you updates to packages
[06:02] <holycow> firestarter is a pretty darn good frontend for iptables
[06:02] <holycow> just add the rules for whatever you want to let through
[06:02] <holycow> its simple
[06:02] <charlie5> Agrajag, mahangu ...  thanks ... i'll give both a try
[06:02] <ngutwirth> should i make a normal user account and use that one for myself or is just loggin in as admin fine?
[06:02] <Agrajag> charlie5: they both do pretty much the same thing
[06:02] <Agrajag> so they should both work
[06:03] <mustard5> ngutwirth, that might be overkill, just be careful with sudo in admin account
[06:03] <ngutwirth> meaning?
[06:03] <mustard5> ngutwirth, unless your dangerous with sudo :)
[06:03] <ngutwirth> what do u mean by sudo in admin account
[06:03] <warty> how can i change the X resolution using the warty live cd (without rebooting)?
[06:04] <EnsignRedshirt> holycow: Right...but I just spent a few hours getting tortoisesvm/putty/pageant figured out on a win2000, and my brain is full.  i don't think I can learn any more today :)
[06:04] <holycow> EnsignRedshirt, how about this
[06:04] <holycow> do you have a router between  you and the net?
[06:04] <charlie5> ah :)
[06:04] <holycow> if so just turn off firestarter and take your time and learn to set everything up properly
[06:04] <Agrajag> I take it it worked?
[06:04] <mustard5> ngutwirth, your admin accoutn will have sudo privileges, you could set up a user account with no sudo privileges so you can't do admin functions if you thought you were better off restricting yourself
[06:04] <mustard5> ngutwirth, but it seems overkill
[06:04] <EnsignRedshirt> holycow: Yes.  (And that was I joke, of course.  It's probably about time that I learned a bit more about firestarter.)
[06:04] <EnsignRedshirt> s/I/a/
[06:04] <ngutwirth> but what do you mean by being caraful with sudo?
[06:04] <mustard5> ngutwirth, better to just think twice before doing admin tasks
[06:05] <holycow> :) lol oh haha
[06:05] <Arafangion> In Nero, as I burn ubuntu, it says "The entered block size does not correspond to the image length. The block size may be wrong. Do you want to correct the value or ignore the problem?"
[06:05] <ngutwirth> how can you be careful?
[06:05] <holycow> i didn't actually read your whole sentence
[06:05] <mustard5> ngutwirth, sudo allows you to do admin tasks
[06:05] <foampeace> how do i remove one of those x drivers without removing xcore?
[06:05] <ngutwirth> yea... like install somethig
[06:05] <holycow> newb questions require reading only the first few syllables to be honest :)
[06:05] <warty> anyone? I tried editing /etc/X11/XF86* but that didn't seem to make any difference
[06:05] <ngutwirth> when you say be careful do you mean dont install too much stuff
[06:05] <charlie5> thanks again ... one last question ... can i tell ubu to keep packages, so that if i uninstall a package and then later wish to re-install, the package doesn't have to be d/l'ed again ?
[06:06] <mustard5> ngutwirth, be careful would be not just mindlessly typingn in sudo this and sudo that without thinking of what its actually doing
[06:06] <siimo> hi anyone here run ubuntu breezy with "nv" display driver???
[06:06] <ngutwirth> oh ok
[06:06] <mustard5> ngutwirth, sudo is a powerful command and once executed there may be no turning back on whatever changes you made
[06:06] <ngutwirth> so actually u can add sudo before every command if u wanted to although its not required
[06:07] <ngutwirth> or not always needed
[06:07] <mustard5> ngutwirth, all admin tasks require you to use sudo
[06:07] <ngutwirth> oh ok
[06:07] <ngutwirth> nice
[06:07] <ngutwirth> :-D
[06:07] <ngutwirth> im up and running
[06:07] <ngutwirth> oh ya whats the thing on the bottom right corner
[06:07] <ngutwirth> those squares
[06:07] <ngutwirth> what do they do
[06:07] <mustard5> ngutwirth, workspaces
[06:07] <mustard5> ngutwirth, they are for making your desktop look organised :)
[06:08] <ngutwirth> uhh
[06:08] <ngutwirth> it doesnt seem to do anything
[06:08] <mustard5> ngutwirth, stops things getting cluttered
[06:08] <Arafangion> ngutwirth: Or hiding your games from the boss when he comes around, without messing up the arrangement :)
[06:08] <ngutwirth> when firefox is open it sjust a circle in the middle
[06:08] <foampeace> no one has an answer to my question?
[06:08] <mustard5> click on the squares and it changes to another 'desktop'
[06:08] <Arafangion> ngutwirth: Open a few programs and then click on a different desktop.
[06:08] <Madpilot> ngutwirth: they're virtual desktops
[06:08] <holycow> ngutwirth, you can open up apps in each desktop separately.  if you have a complex workflow that requires 20 apps you can put 5 on each desktop and switch back and forth cleanly
[06:08] <ngutwirth> ohh
[06:08] <ngutwirth> got it
[06:08] <ngutwirth> didnt see that
[06:09] <ngutwirth> ok thanks
[06:09] <ngutwirth> lates
[06:09] <EnsignRedshirt> Ooh, that's weird.  I just used synaptic to completely remove firestarter, and I got an error window: "E: firestarter: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1"
[06:09] <mustard5> ngutwirth, np
[06:09] <sergio> HI
[06:09] <sergio> i need an expert in ubuntu
[06:09] <sergio> I have special needs in that
[06:09] <sergio> I'll tell you
[06:09] <holycow> just ask, if someone knows they will answer
[06:09] <Madpilot> sergio: ask your question, and someone here can probably fake being an expert... :)
[06:09] <holycow> forget trolling
[06:10] <Arafangion> Hmm, it's a corrupt download.
[06:10] <sergio> I use a lot the voyage 200, but I use windows xp, I want to know if someone know how to use it in ubuntu?
[06:10] <destroyer> how do i install the firestarter for 686 smp ubuntu distro?
[06:11] <frogzoo> holycow, or just open 20 virtual desktops :)
[06:11] <sergio> I use a lot the voyage 200, but I use windows xp, I want to know if someone know how to use it in ubuntu?
[06:11] <destroyer> how do i install the firestarter for 686 smp ubuntu distro?
[06:11] <warty> sergio: what's a voyage 200?
[06:11] <Madpilot> sergio: what is that, a piece of hardware, a program???
[06:12] <foampeace> sergio: did you check www.winehq.com ?
[06:12] <holycow> frogzoo, lol
[06:12] <mustard5> destroyer, same way as 386 people do it?  sudo apt-get install firestarter
[06:12] <EnsignRedshirt> destroyer: The package is firestarter.  Use apt-get, or synaptic.
[06:12] <sergio> voyage 200 it's a ingeneering calculator
[06:12] <destroyer> ok i found it
[06:12] <Arafangion> sergio: For windows?
[06:12] <destroyer> thx anyways :D your my heroes
[06:12] <warty> sergio: you wanna use this? http://education.ti.com/us/product/accessory/connectivity/features/cables.html#usbwinmac
[06:12] <destroyer> i dont wanna be naked anymore you gusy scared me
[06:12] <sergio> it's a hardware for windows,
[06:12] <warty> sergio: you could try wine. otherwise i guess you're out of luck
[06:13] <Arafangion> sergio: Got a website about it?
[06:13] <durt> sergio: use tilp for file transfers, tiemu for emulation
[06:13] <sergio> thank you
[06:13] <foampeace> with wine youre usually out of luck heh
[06:14] <warty> foampeace: actually i got ie running quite well the other day... pretty amazing
[06:14] <crisco> i have a question can anyone help?
[06:14] <mustard5> crisco, we will know when you ask :)
[06:14] <frogzoo> foampeace, how so? wine runs most everything, if not, there's Crossover Office
[06:14] <Arafangion> foampeace: For win98 compatible apps, wine is very good now.
[06:14] <Madpilot> !+ask
[06:14] <ubotu> ask is probably Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answer. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html.
[06:14] <thrush> just installed winrar using wine since unrar-nonfree wasnt working wine rocks
[06:15] <Arafangion> foampeace: It's apps that require winXP or hardware drivers that are problematic.
[06:15] <EnsignRedshirt> Synaptic in breezy doesn't show a terminal with the commands and their results.  But the error window says to "Scroll in the terminal buffer to see what went wrong."  Is this information stored somewhere?
[06:15] <SEJeff> EnsignRedshirt: Yes it does
[06:15] <crisco> im having a real hard time with linux and i think it would be better to remove it from my computer-i still have (uck) windows on my computer. can i safely remove linux?
[06:15] <warty> EnsignRedshirt: isn't there a little triangle to click?
[06:15] <SEJeff> EnsignRedshirt: As it is installing, click the down arrow to see the terminal output
[06:15] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, you might have the terminal output set to close when the install finishes
[06:15] <frogzoo> foampeace, go to Codeweavers site - and see the hundreds of apps the Codeweavers offer with commercial support
[06:16] <davix> im trying to compile a script to block a port at my machine
[06:16] <davix> but gcc file.c dosent work
[06:16] <davix> it echos $? as 0
[06:16] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, if you don't tell it to close when finished it will remain there waiting for you to hit 'ok'
[06:16] <davix> but no output file
[06:16] <davix> why is that?
[06:16] <SEJeff> devix: gcc -o file file.c
[06:16] <Arafangion> crisco: Yes, but for the bootloader, you will have to reinstall it, unless you are happy with the new bootloader.
[06:16] <davix> erm
[06:16] <EnsignRedshirt> warty: Yes, you are correct.  It is there.
[06:16] <warty> davix: there's no a.out?
[06:16] <davix> syntax syntax
[06:16] <davix> tnx
[06:16] <SEJeff> devix: But you don't need to compile a c program just to change iptables?
[06:16] <foampeace> frogzoo: ya i guess its better that theyre offering a way out of chaos
[06:16] <crisco> bootloader
[06:17] <crisco> ?
[06:17] <SEJeff> devix: just use a shell script or the commandline
[06:17] <davix> how does it go?
[06:17] <Arafangion> crisco: The program that loads the OS is often termed a "bootloader".
[06:17] <SEJeff> davix: install an iptables frontend
[06:17] <SEJeff> davix: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[06:17] <thrush> crisco: curious, what exactly were you having a problem with in ubuntu?
[06:17] <davix> i'll google it
[06:17] <Arafangion> crisco: And what version of ubuntu?
[06:17] <SEJeff> davix: man iptables
[06:18] <psusi> firestarter doesn't support ipsec does it?
[06:18] <frogzoo> aaaarghh... man iptables - iptables takes some getting used to
[06:18] <SEJeff> psusi: Support ipsec? It is an iptables frontend. Not a vpn frontend
[06:18] <Arafangion> frogzoo: I gave up and used shorewall instead :)
[06:19] <psusi> SEJeff: k... thought so, figured I'd ask though
[06:19] <Arafangion> psusi: I have not used firestarter, but I believe that ipsec is outside the realm of firewalls.
[06:19] <psusi> ipsec uses iptables it looks like, so I thought maybe...
[06:19] <SEJeff> Arafangion: Take a look at firestarter
[06:19] <SEJeff> Arafangion: You are correct
[06:19] <foampeace> i have a problem with ubuntu....people are still using windows
[06:19] <Arafangion> psusi: firewalls will operate on *top* of whatever protocols you are using.
[06:19] <Arafangion> foampeace: What are you saying?
[06:19] <crisco> im not a genius or anything but i used to have basic knowledge of computers. but ive forgotten alot of the terms and stuff and even the simplest of things are a chore-i want to learn but at this time i simply dont have the time. ive tried and people have tried to help me but its just become a huge fustration. at this point id pay someone to fix it all up for me (thats how much i hate windows
[06:19] <crisco> )
[06:20] <psusi> it looks like ipsec is implemented with some iptables rules/modules
[06:20] <SEJeff> psusi: You could use iptables to allow or block ipsec ports. That is the amount of ipsec using iptables basicly
[06:20] <warty> crisco: did ya try os x?
[06:20] <psusi> ipsec itself does not have ports
[06:20] <mustard5> crisco, what problem are you having with ubuntu?
[06:20] <SEJeff> psusi: What are you reading about ipsec?
[06:20] <crisco> mac?
[06:20] <psusi> SEJeff: http://www.ipsec-howto.org/t1.html
[06:20] <foampeace> Arafangion: only thing is that if the windows people were here instead of there we could be doing more here
[06:20] <SEJeff> psusi: A vpn does. And that is what ipsec is mostly used for
[06:20] <warty> crisco: for now, guess so - it's a possibility if you're looking to spend some cash
[06:21] <mustard5> crisco, dont' worry I'm just finding your question..
[06:21] <psusi> SEJeff: no, it doesn't... it forwards packets at the IP layer
[06:21] <Arafangion> mustard5: I don't think he ever told us the problem he was having.
[06:21] <mustard5> Arafangion, k
[06:21] <crisco> when i use mac or windows i feel confined-i want to be able to do what i want-its just figuring out how thats the issue
[06:21] <mustard5> Arafangion, I think his problem is how do I uninstall
[06:22] <thrush> crisco: i find mac more frustrating than windows really..
[06:22] <Arafangion> crisco: Are you asking how to delete a program?
[06:22] <SEJeff> psusi: And what is the main reason to encrypt and forward packets at the layer 4? vpn
[06:22] <psusi> IP<-IPSEC<-IP... then maybe, but not neccesarily <-TCP/UDP ( which have ports )
[06:22] <mustard5> Arafangion, how to uninstall ubuntu
[06:22] <meta> trying to use apt-get, but it keeps crying about a broken skype package, how do I stop it crying?
[06:22] <SEJeff> psusi: Or just general lan network encryption
[06:22] <warty> meta: can you remove the broken package?
[06:22] <mustard5> crisco, basically you are asking how to uninstall ubuntu right?
[06:23] <crisco> basically yeah
[06:23] <psusi> looks like it might be a bit of a pain to set up... but really nifty stuff
[06:23] <meta> warty - it's an updated skype package, a .deb, I'd prefer not to remove it
[06:23] <warty> crisco: you could boot into windows, fdisk /mbr and reformat the linux partitions if memory serves...
[06:23] <psusi> much nicer than other vpn stuff I've seen
[06:23] <crisco> how do you learn this stuff
[06:23] <warty> meta: how is it broken?
[06:24] <warty> crisco: i forgot :-)
[06:24] <warty> crisco: and it may be wrong - check it with google first
[06:24] <crisco> thats what i want to do-is it in a book? or what
[06:24] <psusi> what was that about fdisk /mbr?
[06:24] <SEJeff> psusi: ipsec vpn can be a pain unless you use something like openswan. I prefer http://www.sshtools.com/showSslExplorer.do for vpn. Much easier for stupid users
[06:24] <Arafangion> crisco: You learn and tinker for a while - computers have a high learning curve. Once you've passed that curve you just pickup everything as 'common knowledge'.
[06:24] <warty> crisco: google knows most stuff, learning to use google efficiently is the first step to mastering linux IMO :-)
[06:24] <meta> warty - says it has unmet dependancies but it's installed and runs fine.
[06:24] <frogzoo> crisco, there's good documentation for new users http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[06:25] <warty> meta: which dependencies? you could use aptitude to find out
[06:25] <Arafangion> crisco: It's like learning how to speak a forien language, it's hard to learn words when you've just started, but once you know it very well, picking up words is very easy.
[06:25] <psusi> SEJeff: is that a ppp over ssh tunnel?
[06:25] <crisco> yahoo is way better than google but thanx-lol :)~
[06:25] <Arafangion> crisco: At one time yahoo *used* google.
[06:25] <SEJeff> psusi: No, an ssl tunnel
[06:25] <crisco> well now i want to try
[06:25] <mustard5> crisco, :)
[06:26] <Arafangion> crisco: And for linux and techie stuff, google is one of the best.  Different search engines have different strengths.
[06:26] <psusi> SEJeff: ppp over ssl?  ssl is nifty
[06:26] <crisco> i really dont have the heart to get id of this
[06:26] <mustard5> crisco, thats fair enough
[06:26] <meta> warty - "skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed"
[06:26] <psusi> x.509 digital certificates rock
[06:26] <mustard5> crisco, if you don't want to then you shouldnt have to :)
[06:26] <Arafangion> meta: Ahh, it's a debian package?
[06:26] <SEJeff> psusi: yes, sslexplorer is a very cool solution
[06:26] <crisco> ok yall-well thanx for the help-i guess i'll go try to read all this stuff now-lol
[06:26] <mustard5> crisco, I'm just lost for a guide on how to uninstall :)
[06:26] <warty> meta: if i were you, i'd install from the .tar.gz on the skype site and remove that package. it's for debian, not ubuntu
[06:27] <crisco> i think thas the point
[06:27] <blank> hey guys, does anyone know the repository for eclipse
[06:27] <psusi> SEJeff: but I don't really like having to 'dial up' vpns
[06:27] <psusi> that's why I like ipsec... it's transparent
[06:27] <warty> meta: and i don't see any advantage of using .deb over .tar.gz, since skype doesn't offer a repository (i think)
[06:27] <mustard5> crisco, stay in channel and ask questions as you read stuff
[06:27] <blank> or can anyone help me get eclipse, I'd like the C++ one
[06:27] <warty> meta: so the apt-get update goodness is lost
[06:27] <SEJeff> psusi: wow, you totally miss the point
[06:27] <mustard5> crisco, we won't kick you out for not wanting to use ubuntu ;)
[06:27] <psusi> no dialing up... no entering passwords... just when you communicate with another ipsec host, it's encrypted...
[06:27] <meta> warty - so remove and get the static compilled one, ok I will try that, cheers mate
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> How do I find out my build date for bugzilla reporting?
[06:28] <SEJeff> psusi: The cisco vpn that I used an hour ago to remote into my server at work to restart apache was ipsec
[06:28] <Arafangion> psusi: It still needs passwords and shit.
[06:28] <warty> meta: well you don't need the static one - there's a dynamically linked .tar.gz one too
[06:28] <blank> can anyon tell me any other useful repositorys for synaptic
[06:28] <meta> ah k
[06:28] <mustard5> ubotu: tell blank about repositories
[06:28] <psusi> Arafangion: nope... it can use digital certificates to authenticate and negotiate a random session key
[06:28] <Arafangion> meta: I'd recommend you use something like checkinstall to monitor the installation.
[06:28] <SEJeff> psusi: That all depends on implementation. What you are talking about is more along the lines of kerberos
[06:28] <Arafangion> meta: So that you can use dpkg to remove it.
[06:28] <mustard5> blank, check pm from ubotu
[06:29] <frogzoo> blank, if you start using repos outside of the official ones, things can get rocky
[06:29] <SEJeff> psusi: IPSEC doesn't do SSO near as well as kerberos
[06:29] <meta> Arafangion, yeah I've heard about checkinstall, ./config, make, checkinstall right?
[06:29] <SEJeff> If you use dapper, things can get rocky :)
[06:29] <psusi> SEJeff: well, there are two parts... the transparency is simply the fact that IPsec automatically encrypts packets as they go on the wire, rather than using a ppp connection to do it...
[06:29] <Arafangion> meta: It's: checkinstall 'command used to install program'
[06:29] <psusi> I don't like kerberos... x.509 is way better
[06:29] <ams_> hello how do i setup ubuntu with linux-linux sharing
[06:29] <Arafangion> meta: In the case of source code, the command to *install* the program is usually 'make install'.
[06:30] <mustard5> ubotu: tell blank about sources
[06:30] <Arafangion> meta: if that makes sense.
[06:30] <SEJeff> psusi: Yes, it is layer 4 encryption aka at the network layer (ip address level)
[06:30] <psusi> kerberos still uses shared secrets, which can be compromised, and are difficult to set up ( both parties have to agree on the sectre a priori )
[06:30] <meta> Arafangion, yeah it does, cheers
[06:30] <frogzoo> ams_ you want nfs mounts & nfsd
[06:30] <ams_> where can i find that
[06:31] <psusi> also to communicate with another kerberos host, you must first speak with a KDC to get a TGT
[06:31] <psusi> what if the KDC is down?  not good
[06:31] <warty> Arafangion: meta i believe that the "installation" consists of tar zxvf skype*.tar.gz
[06:31] <warty> Arafangion: meta so it's not too insidious
[06:32] <SEJeff> psusi: You are correct
[06:32] <frogzoo> ams_ check the nfs related packages - nfs-user-server probably is what you want
[06:32] <Kalidarn> anyone know where to get the 2.6.0 DEB for XChat?
[06:32] <ams_> i am a linux noob
[06:32] <crisco> can i get a what what?
[06:32] <SEJeff> psusi: I can use stunnel to tunnel telnet access and secure it if I want to easily
[06:32] <destroyer> hey guys i need a full repositories list file ...
[06:33] <destroyer> anyone have one who works fien
[06:33] <destroyer> fine
[06:33] <destroyer> ...
[06:33] <psusi> SEJeff: aye... but that is nowhere near transparant
[06:33] <aeon17x> destroyer: you mean you didn't make a backup?
[06:33] <mustard5> ams_, I'm not sure what you mean by linux linux sharing..can you elaborate on what you want to do?
[06:33] <ams_> over the network
[06:33] <destroyer> i did but i lost it
[06:33] <destroyer> lol
[06:33] <psusi> you have to explicitly connect the tunnel, then change the application to use the tunnel instead of directly connecting to the remote host
[06:33] <destroyer> its a repository for 686
[06:33] <SEJeff> psusi: But I can set it up in < 30 seconds
[06:33] <warty> ams_: you mean a remote shell?
[06:33] <frogzoo> ams_, also nfs_common for the client - but for docs, read the nfs paragraph in "man mount"
[06:33] <ams_> dunno, i want another linux machine to be able to access my shared files
[06:34] <warty> oh
[06:34] <SEJeff> ams_: Use samba
[06:34] <mustard5> ams_, thats a better question
[06:34] <warty> ams_: yes, i'd avoid nfs for simple file sharing. go for samba
[06:34] <SEJeff> You can't seriosly expect a linux n00b to setup nfs and play with /etc/exports
[06:34] <frogzoo> SEJeff, samba for linux linux file sharing? no way dude
[06:34] <mustard5> ubotu: tell ams_ about samba
[06:34] <ams_> what can u use
[06:34] <SEJeff> When there is a perfectly good right click --> sharing nautilus <---> samba integration
[06:35] <warty> frogzoo: avoids silly things like having to worry about switching off machines in the correct order...
[06:35] <destroyer> how you install samba?
[06:35] <SEJeff> Samba is high performance
[06:35] <mustard5> ams_, check the pm from ubotu and check out the how to set up samba page
[06:35] <warty> frogzoo: nfs is a PITA
[06:35] <psusi> SEJeff: yea, but you have to 1) reconnect the tunnel for each session, 2) make sure your client software uses the tunnel, every time, 3) have to use a different procedure to set up each application to use the tunnel and 4) some apps can't be configured to use it
[06:35] <ams_> k
[06:35] <SEJeff> ams_: You want samba
[06:35] <mustard5> ams_, come back if you have questions
[06:36] <destroyer> i need a repository
[06:36] <psusi> NFS sucks... it's an absurdly stupid protocol when it comes to things like security
[06:36] <destroyer> XD
[06:36] <frogzoo> warty, nfs is a PITA because of the safeguards built into the protocol, unlink SMB
[06:36] <meta> warty - ah very nice work ty, all solved
[06:36] <psusi> i.e. the client just tells the server the uid it wants to access the files as... and the server simply trusts it
[06:36] <SEJeff> ACLS, more intelligent locking... samba is better
[06:36] <destroyer> who knows  a good howto for samba install?
[06:37] <DR_K13> google
[06:37] <DR_K13> lolz
[06:37] <Arafangion> destroyer: "apt-get install samba"
[06:37] <mustard5> ubotu: tell destoyer about samba
[06:37] <SEJeff> destroyer: Use synaptic or apt-get and install it
[06:37] <mustard5> you guys are not very helpful :)
[06:37] <destroyer> i already installed it
[06:37] <destroyer> now how i configure it for my network
[06:37] <SEJeff> destroyer: Then just right click a folder and click Sharing
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> Anybody know the package name for a grocery list utility?  (I saw it once, but can't remember.)
[06:37] <Arafangion> destroyer: That's a different question :)
[06:37] <destroyer> lol mustard
[06:37] <mustard5> destroyer, check pm from ubotu
[06:37] <warty> destroyer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76647
[06:38] <warty> destroyer: first google hit for "samba ubuntu howto"
[06:38] <treitter> does anyone know if there are any Ubuntu packages for X.org 6.8.99.901?
[06:38] <destroyer> i did that
[06:38] <destroyer> warty
[06:39] <destroyer> and didnt worked for me
[06:39] <mustard5> destroyer, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[06:39] <frogzoo> ams_ sounds like in your case, samba will get you up to speed quickest
[06:39] <warty> destroyer: how did it fail?
[06:39] <SEJeff> treitter: I am on dapper, no there are not
[06:39] <destroyer> ok ...i cant make the last step
[06:39] <destroyer> the mount step
[06:39] <treitter> SEJeff: yeah, I saw that they aren't in the official repository :)
[06:39] <blank> can ubuntu give me the link to the tutorial on installing ati drivers for ubuntu, it's on the ubuntu site but I forgot the link
[06:39] <SEJeff> !ati
[06:39] <ubotu> I heard ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[06:39] <mustard5> destroyer, describe the error or use the pastebin to paste large error messages
[06:39] <frogzoo> blank, google Ubuntu fglrx
[06:40] <blank> kaaaay! ;D
[06:40] <destroyer> ok wait
[06:40] <mustard5> ubotu: tell destroyer about pastebin
[06:40] <DR_K13> how do you like dapper SEJeff?
[06:40] <destroyer> and i have another problem
[06:40] <destroyer> the smb.conf
[06:40] <SEJeff> DR_K13: Only a few things better I noticed so far
[06:40] <destroyer> mine is crashed i need a new one
[06:40] <destroyer> i didnt back up :(
[06:40] <DR_K13> such as>?>
[06:40] <SEJeff> DR_K13: rhythmbox uses libnotify to show what song is playing in a bubble like the update-manager
[06:40] <psusi> hrm... does nautilus have a webdav protocol handler?
[06:41] <blank> anyone know if I can use eclipse with gcc?
[06:41] <SEJeff> DR_K13: Deskbar applet (very very cool) works for me now
[06:41] <DR_K13> cool
[06:41] <wickedpuppy> blank, you mean gcc with eclipse ?
[06:41] <SEJeff> DR_K13: And my ipod stopped working :-(
[06:41] <agag> err..okay ..i have a ubuntu live cd..i also have a wireless connection..how can i get ubuntu to recoginze it...and ..can i be on windows and crap..and also be able to view the live cd without shutting down?
[06:41] <psusi> nevermind... looks like it does... very sweet
[06:41] <psusi> wonder how well it works... hrm....
[06:42] <destroyer> someone help me with my smb.conf i need a new one :(
[06:42] <blank> yeah, that wickedpuppy
[06:42] <warty> blank: google seems to think so... http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8349506804.html
[06:42] <SEJeff> psusi: webdav has been in gnome-vfs for awhile now
[06:42] <wickedpuppy> blank, get cdt
[06:42] <DR_K13> are the songs toast?
[06:42] <blank> yes wickedpuppy, I was looking at CDT but I'm stumped and dont know which to get, there's runtime stuff and the like
[06:42] <SEJeff> DR_K13: No, it doesn't recognize it yet. Nothing major. Just needs to be updated
[06:42] <destroyer> someone help me with my smb.conf i need a new one :(
[06:42] <stbain> ubotu: tell agag about wireless
[06:42] <wickedpuppy> blank, which to get ? huh ?
[06:42] <blank> may I use synaptic or apt-get to install it wickedpuppy?
[06:43] <SEJeff> destroyer: Use google to find one
[06:43] <psusi> SEJeff: looks like natively mounting it though is only in very early development.... oh well... having it in gnome-vfs might be good enough...
[06:43] <destroyer> thx for the help SEJeff!
[06:43] <blank> yes wickedpuppy, which one of these http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/index.php
[06:43] <agag> you didnt answer my other question
[06:43] <DR_K13> SEJeff  what do you like to use
[06:43] <wickedpuppy> blank, http://eclipse.org/downloads/index.php
[06:43] <SEJeff> psusi: I haven't played with webdav that much. I am actually a fan of ifolder
[06:43] <blank> er...sorry, wrong link
[06:43] <agag> is it possible to run ubuntu live cd without shutting down windows?
[06:43] <destroyer> he like to use GOOGLE!!
[06:43] <stbain> agag: regarding the question about being in Windows and viewing the liveCD... the short answer is "yes, but not easily"
[06:43] <agag> gasp
[06:43] <blank> yeah wickedpuppy, it refreshes the page so it's not the page you want to take me too
[06:43] <wickedpuppy> blank, get the current release ?
[06:44] <agag> you think you could tell me how
[06:44] <blank> wickedpuppy, there's CDT runtime, CDT SDK, etc.
[06:44] <psusi> SEJeff: what's ifolder?  I've been using subversion at work for software control... it's based on webdav/deltav, so I started laying with webdav... it's neat
[06:44] <stbain> you'll want some sort of virtualization software
[06:44] <destroyer> i wasnt here if i didnt made googles searches...
[06:44] <agag> stbain, i dont know what wireless card i have
[06:44] <wickedpuppy> blank, huh ?
[06:44] <blank> nevermind I got it, sorry
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> blank, CDT 3.0.0 (for use only with Eclipse Platform 3.1.X) <---- follow this instruction
[06:45] <SEJeff> psusi: Another one of novell's mono children that is very nice for file sharing: http://www.ifolder.com/index.php/Main_Page
[06:45] <stbain> agag: run "lspci -v" in a console and see if you see it anywhere in there
[06:45] <psusi> SEJeff: set up some certificates for access, and can upload/download/browse files on my work computer from any web browser in the world... with my client cert... and windows webfolders opens it nicely for other manipulation ( copy, move, etc )
[06:45] <blank> I just wanted to know if i must compile it myself, I'd rather use synaptic or apt-get
[06:45] <agag> stbain, i dont know what i ahve
[06:45] <agag> have*
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> blank, you just use eclipse update manager ...
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> no need to compile
[06:45] <P00f> Hi all! does Ubuntu have PHP installed by default?  I need to develope PHP applicaions. and uploading to my website to test is verry time consuming... TIA
[06:45] <blank> haha, I'm dumb, thanks bud
[06:45] <stbain> yes, but when you run lspci -v and see "[Vendor here]  Wireless PCMCIA Card" you may find out
[06:46] <psusi> for some reason the world 'novell' has sounded dirty to me since I stopped using netware 3.x and dos 5
[06:46] <Arafangion> P00f: I doubt it has it by default.
[06:46] <SEJeff> psusi: I am a redhat / unix guy. But work is a Unix / Novell shop
[06:46] <Arafangion> P00f: You need to install apache and mod_php, and you need to set it up.
[06:46] <wickedpuppy> P00f, you can install it anyway later :P no problem there
[06:46] <Arafangion> P00f: If your career involves making websites, it would be valuable experience.
[06:46] <SEJeff> psusi: I work on HP-UX or Novell Open Enterprise Server. It's not too bad either
[06:46] <|sam|> hi there, anyone know what dir i would find an icon for a program i have just installed? i just installed znes but it didnt make a menu entry
[06:46] <P00f> yea :)
[06:46] <P00f> thanks
[06:47] <GigaClon> !smeg
[06:47] <ubotu> smeg is, like, a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Installed by default in Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy). For Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary) get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[06:47] <stbain> and on that note, I need to get back to my invoicing lest I never get paid... good luck, agag
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> blank, where you see the sdk and so on btw ? i can't find them
[06:47] <rain`> yay I just discovered the whereis commmand, I am a happy man
[06:48] <|sam|> breezy has a menu editor built in, what i want is the icon for zsnes to put in a launcher
[06:48] <wickedpuppy> rain`, try locate too
[06:48] <blank> im choosing a mirror, hold on...wtf, playboy enterprises mirror?
[06:48] <thirso> !java
[06:48] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[06:48] <psusi> SEJeff: once I switched from netware 3.x and dos 5 to NT 3.50, I never looked back at novell
[06:48] <SEJeff> |sam|: /usr/share/icons/themename I think is the ubuntu default
[06:48] <psusi> not really kept up with what they have been doing
[06:48] <|sam|> SEJeff, thankyou
[06:48] <SEJeff> psusi: 3.51 was so much better
[06:49] <frogzoo> rain`, which is shorter ;)
[06:49] <psusi> but I do have fond memories from highschool of hacking the netware bindery and hiding supervisor equivalent non user objects in there that I could log in with a modified login program... and the security tools wouldn't see ;)
[06:49] <frogzoo> rain`, also, consider locate
[06:49] <psusi> SEJeff: NT 3.51?  the only difference I really remember was on the fly file compression
[06:50] <psusi> it was like a $15 upgrade... hehe
[06:50] <P00f> must I install 32 bit ubuntu to make 64 bit ATI drivers work? this is the case in fedora core 4...
[06:50] <SEJeff> psusi: That was sarcasm :-)
[06:50] <psusi> ahh ;)
[06:50] <blank> wickedpuppy I went to update install and I cant find them :(
[06:50] <frogzoo> psusi, NT with compressed file systems??? no....
[06:50] <Pablo> is there a command in ubuntu that is = to ipconfig /flushdns in windows
[06:50] <Pablo> my dns is really slow on my ubuntu machine
[06:50] <wickedpuppy> blank, what you did ?
[06:50] <psusi> that was back in the days when MS was pushing for a service pack every quarter, and an inexpensive new version to upgrade to every year or two...  hehe...
[06:50] <Arafangion> psusi: Novel did DOS _very_ well.
[06:51] <psusi> Arafangion: well, it was better than banyan vines or lan manager ;)
[06:51] <Arafangion> Pablo: How is it slow?
[06:51] <|sam|> SEJeff, found it in /usr/share/pixmaps, thanks for pointing me in the right direction :)
[06:51] <Arafangion> Pablo: Are you testing it with 'dig'?
[06:51] <blank> wicked puppy, I cnat get CDT installed, I dont know how
[06:51] <wickedpuppy> blank, just follow the instructions there ...
[06:51] <Pablo> I dont know about dig
[06:52] <Pablo> it might take 20 seconds to resolve google
[06:52] <Arafangion> Pablo: It's a tool used to test dns.
[06:52] <blank> wickedpuppy, where
[06:52] <destroyer> how do i uninstall my samba?
[06:52] <destroyer> how do i uninstall my samba?
[06:52] <Pablo> but it is the only machine on me network that is slow with dns
[06:52] <destroyer> sorry
[06:52] <Arafangion> Pablo: It might be part of dnstools, bindtools or whatever.
[06:52] <psusi> destroyer: remove the package?
[06:52] <Pablo> ok
[06:52] <charlie5> thanks folks ... killall esd fixed my festival prob :)
[06:52] <wickedpuppy> blank, http://eclipse.org/downloads/index.php .. click on CDT Download
[06:53] <frogzoo> Pablo, check /etc/resolv.conf make sure you can ping all the ips in there
[06:53] <wickedpuppy> blank, then look for this topic CDT 3.0.0 (for use only with Eclipse Platform 3.1.X) <---- and follow the instruction there :P
[06:53] <Pablo> ok thanks
[06:53] <psusi> Arafangion: funny thing... even though I was using netware 3.x 10 years ago... linux still does not handle permissions half as well as it did... heh
[06:53] <DR_K13> meh
[06:54] <psusi> that I just don't get...
[06:54] <T0mato> yo
[06:54] <T0mato> stbain
[06:54] <Pablo> frogzoo it is just my local dns server
[06:54] <Pablo> I can ping it
[06:55] <DR_K13> soup
[06:55] <Pablo> frogzoo,  can I add any others ther
[06:55] <T0mato> i typed in vspci -v and a bunch of crap came up....you said something about some virtualization software..what do you reccomend?
[06:55] <Arafangion> psusi: How so?
[06:55] <frogzoo> Pablo, then the problem is upstream - either use a different server, or complain to your ISP
[06:55] <Pablo> hmm
[06:55] <Arafangion> Pablo: Install dig, and test it.
[06:55] <frogzoo> Pablo, you connecting with ppp/pppoe?
[06:56] <Pablo> I ran dig
[06:56] <Arafangion> Pablo: See what "dig www.google.com" does
[06:56] <Pablo> nope... I have static dsl
[06:56] <Arafangion> Pablo: Now, how long does dig say it takes?
[06:56] <Pablo> ; Query time: 280 msec
[06:56] <psusi> Arafangion: we're still stuck with read/write for owner/group/other... even 10 years ago with novell I could grant a mix of like 7 different access permissions including administer, and set the inherited rights mask to control how the rights flowed downhill... quite a bit more flexible
[06:57] <mmc_> hi
[06:57] <Arafangion> Pablo: Now, show us your entire /etc/resolv.conf file please.
[06:57] <Arafangion> psusi: Linux has that too.
[06:57] <Arafangion> psusi: It's an option.
[06:57] <mmc_> how can i log like admin?
[06:57] <Pablo> search designsdallas.local
[06:57] <Pablo> nameserver 192.168.0.250
[06:57] <Seveas> mmc_, not
[06:57] <wickedpuppy> !tell root to mmc_
[06:57] <psusi> Arafangion: not from what I understand... acls still only have r/w/x for a given uid/gid, or is that not correct?
[06:57] <Pablo> thats it Arafangion
[06:57] <T0mato> stbain
[06:57] <wickedpuppy> eh
[06:58] <psusi> and that is still per file, no inheriting permissions
[06:58] <LoneWolf071> how do i change permissions when doing FTP?
[06:58] <Arafangion> psusi: You want "advanced acl"'s.
[06:58] <stbain> yes, T0mato?
[06:58] <psusi> where can I read about these?
[06:58] <T0mato> you said something about some virtualization software..what do you sugges?
[06:58] <T0mato> suggest*
[06:58] <Seveas> LoneWolf071, chmod
[06:58] <Pablo> Arafangion, search designsdallas.local
[06:58] <Pablo> nameserver 192.168.0.250
[06:58] <frogzoo> Pablo, comment out the search line
[06:58] <Pablo> ok
[06:58] <stbain> I suggest wiping the partition and forgetting about the virtualization software
[06:58] <mmc_> how_
[06:58] <Audigy38> Hello
[06:58] <stbain> but if you must run both, why not just dual boot?
[06:59] <LoneWolf071> Seveas:i know that, but in a ftp prompt?
[06:59] <T0mato> its a live cd!
[06:59] <mmc_> how? im new in Ubuntu
[06:59] <warty> psusi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_control_list
[06:59] <Seveas> chmod :)
[06:59] <mmc_> i wanna install some programs
[06:59] <Seveas> site chmod 0777 filename
[06:59] <wickedpuppy> mmc_, sudo
[06:59] <Seveas> (iird)
[06:59] <wickedpuppy> !sudo
[06:59] <ubotu> sudo is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[06:59] <LoneWolf071> ty
[06:59] <mustard5> mmc_, what program?
[06:59] <mmc_> Amsn
[06:59] <Seveas> mmc_, indtalling in ubuntu does not mean compiling
[06:59] <Pablo> frogzoo, now it is  Query time: 505 msec
[06:59] <Pablo>  for google
[06:59] <Seveas> if you downloaded amsn manually, throw it out again
[06:59] <Pablo> that is slow right?
[07:00] <T0mato> stbain, how do i dual boot
[07:00] <Seveas> and use applications -> add applications
[07:00] <Arafangion> psusi: This should kick start your research: http://acl.bestbits.at/
[07:00] <wickedpuppy> mmc_, sudo apt-get install amsn ...
[07:00] <mustard5> mmc_, sudo apt-get install amsn in terminal?
[07:00] <T0mato> !dual boot
[07:00] <ubotu> T0mato: What?
[07:00] <T0mato> !dualboot
[07:00] <Arafangion> psusi: May need to recompile your kernel, but I have definetly seen the options available in 2.6
[07:00] <ubotu> somebody said dualboot was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[07:00] <mmc_> ok
[07:00] <stbain> T0mato: dual boot means that when your computer boots up, you choose whether you would like to boot into Linux or Windows
[07:00] <Pablo> ;; Query time: 2736 msec
[07:00] <T0mato> i want to be on both at the same time
[07:00] <T0mato> ..
[07:00] <stbain> T0mato: check out http://www.vmware.com/
[07:00] <psusi> so are you saying it is possible to say... have me give you permission to change permissions on my home dir, then you grant someone else read access?
[07:00] <mmc_> how can i log like root_
[07:01] <Seveas> mmc_, not
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> Is there a list of the applications that would be included in Applications -> Add Applications online somewhere?  (My gnome-app-install is busted, so I thought I'd try apt-getting something if I could figure out the name.)
[07:01] <mustard5> mmc_, read the message from ubotu on rootsudo
[07:01] <mmc_> cant i_
[07:01] <Madpilot> anyone having trouble logging into GMail right now? I can enter my un/pw, then it just sits there with "Loading..." the only thing on the screen...
[07:01] <mmc_> ok
[07:01] <mmc_> thank !
[07:01] <Seveas> please read wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo and wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositories
[07:01] <mmc_> bye
[07:01] <wickedpuppy> mmc_, you can .. but its discouraged .. for security reason
[07:01] <Seveas> ^-- mmc_
[07:01] <stbain> tonyyarusso: sudo apt-cache search [your application's name here] 
[07:01] <T0mato> !dualboot
[07:01] <ubotu> I heard dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[07:02] <mmc_> how can  i put arroba
[07:02] <wickedpuppy> arroba ?
[07:02] <Arafangion> psusi: Your dns is very slow.
[07:02] <durt> madpilot: i have been having that problem recently in opera
[07:02] <tonyyarusso> stbain: That's the problem; I don't know the name.
[07:02] <Arafangion> psusi: Possibly windows keeps a cache.
[07:02] <mustard5> mmc_, what is arroba?
[07:02] <Arafangion> psusi: You could install bind as a cache'ing dns server.
[07:02] <stbain> tonyyarusso: what kind of software are you looking for?
[07:03] <nisq> DualBoot can cause problems,  you should stick with the Grub
[07:03] <Madpilot> durt: that's what I'm using too, but it was fine last night... will check w/ FF...
[07:03] <mmc_> @
[07:03] <frogzoo> Pablo, what are you using to do name resolution locally, bind?
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> stbain: It was a nifty little tool for making grocery lists.  (Not crucial, but it was kind of fun.)
[07:03] <Pablo> 2k3 server :\
[07:03] <slew> i've got a window that wont close. ive tried sudo killall sopwith but it dosent work. how do i kill a window?
[07:03] <durt> madpilot: it worked just now... i don't know what was going on
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> stbain: I remember seeing it at one point, but don't remember the name now.
[07:04] <wickedpuppy> slew, try kill 9 pid
[07:04] <Madpilot> durt: just deleted all my Google cookies, I'll try again
[07:04] <wickedpuppy> kill -9 i mean
[07:04] <psusi> Arafangion: wrong person/question ;)
[07:04] <durt> slew, or get xkill
[07:04] <mmc_> ex: if i want install a program , i put in terminal  sudo apt
[07:04] <mmc_> ?
[07:04] <frogzoo> Pablo, well there's your problem - uncomment the search line & install bind, & point resolv.conf to it
[07:05] <wickedpuppy> mmc_, sudo apt-get install <app_name>
[07:05] <Arafangion> psusi: Sorry, I've been cooking dinner, what was that about? (wrong person/ wrong question)
[07:05] <mmc_> if i downloaded in the desktop
[07:05] <psusi> Arafangion: and it still looks to me like you can only grant r/w/x and set an IRM... can't give admin rights, or explicitly deny rights
[07:05] <mmc_> its same?
[07:05] <mustard5> mmc_, it might be easier for you to use synaptic package manager in your System>>Administration>>Synaptic Mananger
[07:05] <T0mato> stbain, what was the purpose of vspci -v ?
[07:05] <Pablo> install bind on my laptop?
[07:05] <psusi> Arafangion: you were answering someone elses question about dns but you typed it to me
[07:06] <Pablo> frogzoo, install bind on my lappy?
[07:06] <stbain> T0mato: lspci -v
[07:06] <Arafangion> psusi: Ahh.
[07:06] <wickedpuppy> mmc_, that will download and install ... and as mustard5 suggested ... pls see synaptic :P
[07:06] <T0mato> oh..
[07:06] <T0mato> and then what?
[07:06] <slew> durt, thanks, that was all i needed. =] 
[07:07] <frogzoo> Pablo, no - that won't be necessary - do you have local machine names coming from the 2k3 server?
[07:07] <Arafangion> psusi: My impression was that you can do much more than that with extended acl's.
[07:07] <mustard5> ubuto: tell mmc_ about synaptic
[07:07] <wickedpuppy> slew, kill -9 didnt kill ?
[07:07] <frogzoo> Pablo, you could just point resolv.conf to your ISPs DNS servers
[07:07] <stbain> T0mato: well, for example, I used it to figure out what kind of network card I have: Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX
[07:07] <Arafangion> psusi: It's at least as good as windows server.
[07:07] <T0mato> and then?
[07:07] <mustard5> mmc_, read message from ubotu on how to use synaptic package manager
[07:07] <stbain> and then make sure the correct driver is loaded
[07:07] <psusi> hrm....
[07:07] <slew> wickedpuppy, no, i did kill -9 pid
[07:07] <T0mato> err
[07:07] <T0mato> hwo do i do that
[07:07] <mmc_> ok
[07:07] <mustard5> when it gets there....
[07:07] <Pablo> I have not added my lappy to active directory no... but dns should still work on the local network if it assigned dhcp right?
[07:07] <slew> wickedpuppy, and it said it needed more arguments
[07:07] <mustard5> hes being slow
[07:07] <stbain> look up what driver you need for that card
[07:07] <mmc_> where is it_
[07:07] <T0mato> okay
[07:07] <T0mato> what is the command again
[07:07] <T0mato> lspci -v ?
[07:07] <stbain> lspci -v
[07:07] <stbain> yes
[07:07] <wickedpuppy> slew, pid = process id ... not pid as in pid
[07:07] <mustard5> mmc_, ubotu is being slow...wait a minute
[07:07] <T0mato> k..brb
[07:07] <mmc_> ok
[07:07] <slew> ahh
[07:07] <mustard5> mmc_, ubotu is the help bot
[07:08] <slew> well then sure that would have worked then heh
[07:08] <mmc_> ok
[07:08] <wickedpuppy> slew, try pidof command .. it will return you the pid of a process ...or look at ps or top
[07:08] <mustard5> mmc_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:08] <slew> i know about top, but havnet tried ps yet
[07:08] <frogzoo> Pablo, if you're using DHCP, then that overwrites resolv.conf
[07:08] <Arafangion> *sigh*, damn I hate windows.
[07:09] <psusi> Arafangion: I seem to only be able to find information on posix acls
[07:09] <psusi> not advanced acls
[07:09] <mmc_> thank mustard5
[07:09] <Pablo> frogzoo, any other suggestions? I guess I will just add my isp's dns servers in resolv.conf till my netadmin sorts stuff out
[07:09] <mustard5> mmc_, come back if you have questions
[07:09] <slew> wickedpuppy, thanks! i appreciate it
[07:09] <Arafangion> psusi: In your searches, instead of 'acl', do "extended acl" (including the quotes)
[07:10] <mustard5> mmc_, read first :)
[07:10] <frogzoo> Pablo, that would be best
[07:10] <Pablo> ok... thanks for your help
[07:10] <Pablo> :)
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> stbain: Did you have any ideas?
[07:10] <wickedpuppy> slew, no prob :P
[07:11] <mmc_> ex: i downloaded programs and lets go see Synaptic
[07:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there some default location that cvs should download to?
[07:12] <wickedpuppy> mmc_, who is ex ?
[07:12] <Arafangion> Damn, windows media player is a *crap* DVD player.
[07:12] <mmc_> example
[07:12] <wickedpuppy> oh ... can put the nick ? it makes us easier to see who is talking to who
[07:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> you're preaching to the choir in here.
[07:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> who knows how to use cvs?
[07:13] <wickedpuppy> BROKEN_LADDER, man cvs
[07:13] <fatehaze> This is terribly off topic, but can anyone help me with procmail?
[07:13] <Arafangion> BROKEN_LADDER: I recommend subversion instead.
[07:13] <warty> fatehaze: shoot
[07:13] <durt> probably the home dir, ladder
[07:13] <fatehaze> Well, I'm setting up procmail with sendmail, but I get the following error message on returned mail:
[07:13] <fatehaze> smrsh: "procmail" not available for sendmail programs (stat failed)
[07:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> wickedpuppy yeah i'm looking at the man page.
[07:14] <mmc_> help
[07:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> unfortunately man pages suck.
[07:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> Arafangion i'm trying to access something.
[07:14] <mmc_> example: i downloaded programs and lets go see Synaptic
[07:14] <Arafangion> BROKEN_LADDER: No they don't. Perhaps the documentation on cvs sucks, but man pages don't suck.
[07:14] <fatehaze> Do I need to add a MAILER(procmail) somewhere?
[07:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> man pages suck
[07:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> the format is terrible
[07:14] <Arafangion> BROKEN_LADDER: That "something" is extremely likely to have instructions as to how to access it.
[07:14] <robotgeek> !tell mmc_ about repos
[07:14] <warty> BROKEN_LADDER: the cvs book doesn't suck
[07:14] <warty> BROKEN_LADDER: info cvs IIRC
[07:14] <Arafangion> BROKEN_LADDER: Please substantiate the claim.
[07:15] <Ace> stbain, you did say lspci -v righ?
[07:15] <Ace> right*
[07:15] <mmc_> ok , i have a printer lexmark
[07:15] <Arafangion> BROKEN_LADDER: And they are intended for brief information about unix tools, for the unix administrator.
[07:15] <mmc_>  i want install
[07:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> Arafangion man *
[07:15] <mmc_> Lexmark z613
[07:15] <robotgeek> mmc_: search in synaptic, and install the program. i am not sure which one you are looking for
[07:15] <luke_> i <3 ubuntu
[07:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm trying to simply find out where cvs downloads things to?
[07:15] <warty> BROKEN_LADDER: http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.html
[07:15] <Ace> stbain!
[07:15] <Ace> !wireless
[07:15] <ubotu> wireless is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:15] <mustard5> mmc_, you might have trouble with that..I'm not sure...I hear lexmarks are a bit difficult
[07:15] <warty> BROKEN_LADDER: pwd, generally
[07:15] <Arafangion> psusi: How are you going?
[07:16] <Ace> stbain stbain stbain
[07:16] <robotgeek> mmc_: i would recommend looking on the wiki, wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[07:16] <mustard5> mmc_, try easier problems first :)
[07:16] <mustard5> robotgeek, good idea ;)
[07:16] <robotgeek> Ace: what are u trying to do?
[07:16] <Ace> err..
[07:16] <Ace> get internet access..with linux cuz i have wireless
[07:16] <mmc_> thank!
[07:16] <Ace> well..i have the disc that installs the driver..but i dont know how to mount a cd
[07:16] <Ace> or whatever
[07:17] <mmc_> my Synaptic dont open!
[07:17] <durt> do you speak english mmc_?
[07:17] <mustard5> mmc_, what does it do?
[07:17] <robotgeek> Ace: are u using ndiswrapper?
[07:17] <Ace> negative
[07:17] <psusi> Arafangion: still not finding anything beyond posix acls... you can grand r/w/x to users or groups for a file... mask out r/w/x access to effectively deny access to certain people... and set defaults for new files in a directory
[07:17] <Ace> i told ya
[07:17] <mustard5> mmc_, does it ask you for a password?
[07:17] <psusi> but nothing about configuring inherited permissions like windows
[07:17] <Ace> i need to know howt o mount a CD
[07:18] <Ace> so i can install teh driv3r
[07:18] <robotgeek> Ace: then what are you doing with drivers cd? :)
[07:18] <Ace> *sigh*
[07:18] <Ace> how do i mount a fsking cd
[07:18] <robotgeek> Ace: windows drivers don't work on linux
[07:18] <psusi> and nothing about simply allowing someone else to modify the acl other than the other ( admin rights )
[07:18] <fatehaze> Any ideas?  I've burned through all the procmail tutorials I could google, but none of them cover this
[07:18] <Ace> robotgeek, so then what do i do?
[07:18] <Ace> will you PM me?
[07:18] <durt> sudo mount /dev/hdc (or /media/cdrom)
[07:18] <warty> fatehaze: sounds to me like you need a sendmail tutorial :-)
[07:19] <robotgeek> Ace: what wireless card do you use
[07:19] <fatehaze> Burned through a ton of those too :(
[07:19] <Ace> robotgeek, dont know
[07:19] <Ace> !wireless
[07:19] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:19] <warty> fatehaze: do you need sendmail? I've never used it, partly because everyone says how stupidly complex it is
[07:19] <wickedpuppy> now the choice is postfix for mail
[07:19] <fatehaze> I'm doing this on a friend's mail server, I think he wants to keep it the way it is
[07:20] <fatehaze> Plus I'm a little wary of installing a new MTA, considering the troubles I'm having so far
[07:20] <Ace> robotgeek
[07:20] <Ace> St-Pauli
[07:20] <fatehaze> Can I install postfix and keep everything intact? ie, the end user won't notice the difference?
[07:20] <mmc_> yes Mustard
[07:20] <Arafangion> psusi: ie, you can do everything except grant "acl change" privilages?
[07:20] <Ace> stbain!!
[07:20] <robotgeek> Ace: lspci -v | grep wireless
[07:20] <mustard5> mmc_, did you put your user password in?
[07:20] <mmc_> yes
[07:20] <Ace> robotgeek, what will that do..and then what do i do from there?
[07:20] <Arafangion> psusi: And that's exactly what you want? To grant acl change privilages to particular groups?
[07:20] <mustard5> mmc_, what happened next?
[07:21] <mmc_> nothin
[07:21] <wickedpuppy> fatehaze, hmms... try on a spare box ? its really a bad idea to change anything on production before testing
[07:21] <robotgeek> Ace: paste the lspci -v output to pastebin
[07:21] <psusi> Arafangion: that and configure how permissions flow downhill
[07:21] <drcode> HI all
[07:21] <Ace> i dont have internet access!!
[07:21] <mustard5> mmc_, hmmmm thats not normal...
[07:21] <durt> ace, yes you do
[07:21] <drcode> if there pdf viewer that I can also past word to clipboard
[07:21] <mmc_> ok
[07:21] <Ace> no i dont fool..not when i use ubuntu
[07:21] <warty> drcode: xpdf
[07:22] <mustard5> mmc_, when did you install ubuntu?
[07:22] <warty> drcode: and i think evince does too
[07:22] <Arafangion> psusi: Looks like you need a sudo'ed program that modifies acls.
[07:22] <psusi> i.e. under windows, I can grant you read access to my home directory, and I can choose for that to apply only to that directory, the files in it, the directories in it, or any combination of the 3
[07:22] <drcode> thanx
[07:22] <luke_> my ubuntu looks cooler than you
[07:22] <robotgeek> Ace: you need to find out what wireless card you have, otherwise it's impossible for us to help you
[07:22] <mmc_> CD
[07:22] <Ace> robotgeek fine then
[07:22] <mustard5> mmc_, did you use default install or expert install?
[07:22] <durt> ace, look for anything in the lspci output that might be your wireless card
[07:22] <SEJeff> luke_: screenshot?
[07:22] <Arafangion> Damn, windows can't even play DVD"s by default.
[07:22] <mmc_> expert
[07:22] <Ace> durt, there are 23904u923 thigns that come up
[07:22] <mustard5> mmc_, ah ok
[07:23] <mustard5> mmc_, I know what the problem is
[07:23] <Ace> brb
[07:23] <Doomhammer> can someone help answer a question i've got about APT ?
[07:23] <robotgeek> Ace: lspci -v | grep wireless
[07:23] <Seveas> Ace, lspci | grep -i ethernet
[07:23] <luke_> SEJeff, its not that good lol, just way better than windows
[07:23] <mmc_> wats it
[07:23] <DR_K13> ace = cool guy lolz
[07:23] <mustard5> mmc_, you dont have administration privileges yet
[07:23] <fatehaze> Hmm, I think I just have to edit the list of commands smrsh can execute
[07:23] <fatehaze> Thanks for the help guys!
[07:23] <Mabus06> how come my audio and video are out of synch for mplayer?
[07:23] <Seveas> robotgeek, the -v is quite useless :)
[07:23] <psusi> looks like under linux, I'd have to change the acls of every file in my home dir to add you if I wanted you to have access to all of the existing files, and then set the default acl to give you access so new files give you access... that's a lot more cumbersome than changing a single acl on the directory
[07:23] <durt> ace: just look at the actual card
[07:23] <luke_> i have a netgear pcmcia card, are they difficult to configure?
[07:23] <SEJeff> luke_: My breezy desktop. http://www.digitalprognosis.com/opensource/Screenshot.jpg I dont have a pic of my dapper desktop up yet
[07:23] <fatehaze> And congratulations on being the least hostile help channel out there :)
[07:23] <robotgeek> Seveas: maybe a sudo ?
[07:23] <SEJeff> luke_: I totally agree with you
[07:23] <warty> psusi: write a shell script :P
[07:23] <mustard5> mmc_, can you join #kubuntu-offtopic plz?  I am going to have to walk you through this
[07:24] <Seveas> psusi, ACLs on linux are quite underdeveloped unfortunately
[07:24] <Mabus06> Hey there mustard5
[07:24] <SEJeff> psusi: man for && man if :-P
[07:24] <mustard5> hey Mabus06 :)
[07:24] <luke_> SEJeff, you might be interested, this is my website www.envisagecreations.com/ec2/
[07:24] <Mabus06> good day to ya
[07:24] <mmc_> i dont have privileges
[07:24] <Seveas> (well, the ACLs themself not, but the frontend)
[07:24] <Doomhammer> why is APT refusing to update some of my packages ?
[07:24] <Ace> durt, look at the actual card?
[07:24] <Ace> how?
[07:24] <psusi> Seveas: yea... it's sad that 10 year old netware had better support for acls than linux does today...
[07:24] <Mabus06> can anyone tell me why my video/audio are out of synch when trying to watch a movie on totem?
[07:24] <warty> Doomhammer: pmt?
[07:24] <Ace> isnt there someway for me to tell while im on windows?
[07:24] <mustard5> mmc_, correct..I can tell you how to get them if you join #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:24] <Seveas> Doomhammer, because it has problems updating them probably
[07:24] <luke_> SEJeff, very nice desktop btw, it looks really nice apart from the boxes on the side, but thats personal preference i guess
[07:24] <Arafangion> psusi: Ok, looks like you want a program to do this for you.
[07:24] <Seveas> put any error you get on the pastebin
[07:25] <Doomhammer> Seveas: but it doesn't even try, just says "0 installed, 0 updated, 108 not updated"
[07:25] <psusi> Seveas: front end or no, the acls themselves are still under developed
[07:25] <durt> ace, dont you have a card plugged in somewhere?
[07:25] <Arafangion> psusi: With 'typical' ACL's, I generally set the -R (recursive) flag.
[07:25] <SEJeff> luke_: That is functionality. I like to have system info
[07:25] <mustard5> mmc_, type /join #kubuntu-offtopic in IRC
[07:25] <warty> Doomhammer: try apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:25] <Seveas> Doomhammer, that just means you need to do a dist-upgrade instead of upgrade
[07:25] <mmc_> im in
[07:25] <Doomhammer> aaah okay :P
[07:25] <psusi> Arafangion: no, it isn't so much of getting it done from a user's perspective, it's how it works
[07:25] <Arafangion> psusi: Perhaps a different filesystem might help things, then?
[07:25] <psusi> i.e. even if you write a script to do all the changes for you, you still end up with hundreds or thousonds of acls scattered on the disk to give you access to my files
[07:26] <psusi> that's slow to update and takes a lot of space
[07:26] <Doomhammer> wait, it wants to install X
[07:26] <luke_> if my box could play EVE, id uninstall windows.. but it cant :'(
[07:26] <warty> psusi: good point. windoze 1, linux 0
[07:26] <Mabus06> can anyone tell me why my video/audio are out of synch when trying to watch a movie on totem?
[07:26] <Seveas> psusi, acls are stored in the xattrs of the file....
[07:26] <psusi> then of course, I still can't let you change the permissions so you can choose to allow others access ;)
[07:26] <robotgeek> Mabus06: does pausing and playing work normally?
[07:27] <psusi> Seveas: yea... so?
[07:27] <SEJeff> Mabus06: That is a known problem with gstreamer that was fixed in the development version
[07:27] <Mabus06> yes, robotgeek
[07:27] <SEJeff> Mabus06: try totem-xine until dapper is released
[07:27] <Mabus06> okay SEJeff, so how do I upgrade?
[07:27] <warty> Seveas: point is, if you do a recursive change of permissions and then move stuff around, it's not easy to undo that in one step
[07:27] <Mabus06> totem-xine? okay... so just sudo apt-get totem-xine
[07:27] <slew> is there an easy way to install codecs for watching mpegs, avi's, ect?
[07:27] <SEJeff> Mabus06: No no no, things will break. Use totem-xine until dapper is released
[07:27] <SEJeff> Mabus06: Pretty much. Make sure you have universe and multiverse enabled
[07:27] <durt> slew apt-get install w32codecs
[07:27] <HappyFool> !w32codecs
[07:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).
[07:28] <Mabus06> I have all the recognised repos, SEJeff
[07:28] <drcode> it dosnt let me use clipboard
[07:28] <Arafangion> *sigh*.
[07:28] <Mabus06> As well as Seveas' one, SEJeff
[07:28] <psusi> then if you REALLY want to get fancy, you can get into DOD B level security... which requires mandatory access controls...
[07:28] <warty> drcode: it?
[07:28] <SEJeff> Mabus06: well then apt-get install totem-xine
[07:28] <psusi> i.e. I can give you permission to give other users access to my files... but only if they have top secret clearance
[07:28] <Seveas> Mabus06, ?
[07:28] <SEJeff> psusi: Like B1 aka EAL4 or 4+. That is what RHEL5 is going to do
[07:28] <Neurosis> i was wondering if ubuntu supported drivers for Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum DVD-Audio Playback And Internal I/O Drive
[07:28] <slew> durt, says its not available
[07:28] <Mabus06> Seveas, you have your own repo right?
[07:29] <Seveas> ah you're talking repositories :)
[07:29] <psusi> RHEL5?
[07:29] <Mabus06> Seveas, I remember seeing your name somewhere when I installed limewire for linux
[07:29] <blank> how may I uninstall a program, I want to uninstall eclipse
[07:29] <Mabus06> Seveas, thanks for that btw. :-)
[07:29] <warty> blank: apt-get remove <packagename>
[07:29] <drcode> evince I mean
[07:29] <drcode> I want to copy a word into clipboard
[07:29] <durt> slew: are all your repos enabled?
[07:29] <SEJeff> psusi: https://www.redhat.com/solutions/industries/government/commoncriteria/
[07:29] <warty> drcode: ok, seems i was mistaken. you can certainly copy from xpdf
[07:30] <drcode> I try with no lucj
[07:30] <drcode> luck
[07:30] <slew> durt yes
[07:30] <warty> drcode: you have to drag a black rectangle over the text. it's a bit odd
[07:30] <warty> drcode: and then middle-click to paste
[07:30] <durt> slew: it might be in backports - i forget
[07:30] <blank> E: Couldn't find package eclipse
[07:30] <Mabus06> SEJeff, did totem-xine replace totem? Because I see no new options in my applications menu. If I pick totem will it be actually totem-xine?
[07:30] <durt> !+backports
[07:30] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports. Also, Breezy does not have backports at the moment because there is no *later* distribution to backport from.
[07:30] <SEJeff> Mabus06: That is correct
[07:31] <Mabus06> okay thanks, SEJeff
[07:31] <SEJeff> Mabus06: All totem-xine is a replacement of the backend
[07:31] <cdubya> I installed mysql, apache2 and php4 on Breezy, but I'm getting an error when I try to load up phpMyAdmin about it missing a mysql extension. Which extension do I need to install?
[07:31] <luke_> i have a netgear pcmcia card, are they difficult to configure?
[07:31] <slew> k, im looking thru synaptic
[07:31] <SEJeff> gstreamer is technically superior, but xine works better. When gstreamer0.10 is released and in dapper, it will be noticeably better
[07:31] <robotgeek> cdubya: do u have the php module enabled in apache?
[07:31] <wreckseal> hello room
[07:32] <DR_K13> yo
[07:32] <warty_> Hello, I'm wondering if there is anyway to install SHockwave flash when I am running ubuntu straight form the cd-rom drive and the hard drive is ntfs
[07:32] <cdubya> robotgeek, as far as I know......
[07:32] <robotgeek> cdubya: sudo a2enmod
[07:32] <wreckseal> can ne1 help me?
[07:32] <warty> wreckseal: depends... ask your question
[07:32] <SEJeff> cdubya, php4-mysql or php5-mysql
[07:32] <fatehaze> Ok, here's another dumb procmail question: I'm trying to determine the list of commands smrsh will allow sendmail to execute
[07:33] <wreckseal> how to login as su in terminal?
[07:33] <warty> wreckseal: sudo bash
[07:33] <SEJeff> wreckseal: sudo -s
[07:33] <robotgeek> !tell wreckseal about sudo
[07:33] <cdubya> robotgeek, yep, it's already enabled.....
[07:33] <fatehaze> But I don't have a /etc/smrsh directory, which is where I'm supposed to put the links
[07:33] <HappyFool> !tell wreckseal about sudo
[07:33] <warty> !tell me about sudo
[07:33] <fatehaze> And locate reveals no such directory either... should I just create it?
[07:33] <wreckseal> thanks. ill try
[07:34] <warty> fatehaze: probably won't make anything blow up... worth a tyr
[07:34] <warty> ^t
[07:34] <fatehaze> Hehe, k
[07:34] <wreckseal> thanks warty and SEjeff
[07:34] <wreckseal> it works
[07:34] <warty> cool, i love it when stuff works
[07:34] <offbyone> Hola.  I'm in need of assistance connecting my Ubuntu machine to a Sparc Ultra 10 workstation via USB->serial cable.  Anyone up to the task?
[07:34] <Neurosis> i was wondering if ubuntu supported drivers for Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum DVD-Audio Playback And Internal I/O Drive
[07:34] <wreckseal> yeah
[07:34] <drcode> thanx
[07:34] <drcode> it worked
[07:35] <warty> wow, 2 in a row
[07:35] <slew> durt, thanks, just going with mplayer. seems to be doing ok. =] 
[07:35] <crimsun> Neurosis: the audigy2 zs is supported, but the full functionality of the livedrive isn't
[07:35] <Arafangion> Does ubuntu support watching DVD's "out of the box"?
[07:35] <rob^> Arafangion, no
[07:36] <crimsun> Neurosis: you'll find the audigy mixer pages on alsa.opensrc.org helpful
[07:36] <rob^> well not encrypted ones anyway
[07:36] <Neurosis> so i wont be able to record me playing guitar and stuff?
[07:36] <Arafangion> rob^: And most are encrypted, but thanks.
[07:36] <rob^> yep
[07:36] <rob^> well you asked :)
[07:36] <crimsun> Neurosis: you'll be able to record, yes
[07:36] <robotgeek> !tell Arafangion about mp3
[07:36] <Neurosis> thats all i want to do
[07:36] <Arafangion> robotgeek: Why do I care about mp3?
[07:36] <robotgeek> Arafangion: read the link, how to play dvds
[07:36] <Arafangion> Ahh.
[07:36] <rob^> Arafangion, see wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:36] <offbyone> ...  More detail:  I THINK I have the cords plugged into the right place, and it looks like I have a /dev/ttyUSB0 device that might correspond to the serial adaptor.
[07:37] <offbyone> However, I'm not really sure how to go about connecting, or validating my connection.
[07:37] <Neurosis> crimsun,  does taht soundcard record very nicely?
[07:37] <crimsun> Neurosis: from most reports, yes
[07:37] <Neurosis> im thinking of picking it up so i can start recording
[07:37] <crimsun> Neurosis: make sure you read the audigy2 comments on the Web first
[07:38] <Neurosis> ok
[07:38] <zaguar> Neurosis: Do you want a link to the .deb of libdvdcss?
[07:38] <zaguar> Neurosis:  Here it is - http://www.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/debian-marillat/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0_i386.deb
[07:39] <Arafangion> Couldn't Ubuntu sell a .deb that is able to play restricted formats? Say, for $50 per computer?
[07:39] <Neurosis> what is that
[07:39] <jrsims> dah
[07:39] <SEJeff> Arafangion: No, they would have to get the RIAA to agree. That would never happen
[07:39] <robotgeek> Arafangion: no, cause it's not ubuntu's to sell
[07:39] <zaguar> That is the link.  Download it and go sudo dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0_i386.deb
[07:39] <jrsims> Is this the official Ubuntu channel?
[07:39] <warty> Arafangion: i'm surprised that no-one has made an unofficial shell script that installs all those goodies simply
[07:39] <cdubya> SEJeff, cool. php4-mysql worked like a charm. Thanks.
[07:40] <Arafangion> robotgeek: In the case of mp3, it mentions that it costs some 75 cents or something.
[07:40] <SEJeff> cdubya: I've had the exact same problem as you before. Thats how I knew it :)
[07:40] <Doomhammer> why is PHP5 not considered "stable" yet ????
[07:40] <robotgeek> jrsims: yup
[07:40] <jrsims> PHP5 is not stable? WTF
[07:40] <jrsims> Where?
[07:40] <robotgeek> Arafangion: that could be licensed from the Fraunhoffer institute
[07:41] <jrsims> does it say that/
[07:41] <T0mato> okay
[07:41] <T0mato> bad news
[07:41] <T0mato> i cant get the file with all that shit on to my computer
[07:41] <T0mato> can't put it on a disc
[07:41] <Doomhammer> no, but only "stable" packages are added to the repositories... and php5 is not availible there...
[07:41] <T0mato> aint writing it down..too much
[07:41] <Arafangion> robotgeek: Exactly, couldn't ubuntu gain licenses, and charge for those optional packages?
[07:41] <T0mato> ima have to find a way to tell which card i have whilst on windows
[07:41] <Arafangion> Doomhammer: It's not stable because it's different to the php that's already in stable.
[07:41] <cafuego> jrsims: it wasn't stable in time to be included in the relevant Debian version.
[07:41] <cafuego> jrsims: Mainly, php4 works just as well.
[07:42] <SEJeff> Arafangion, it's simple. Mark Shuttleworth doesn't want ubuntu to be like that. He has the money and the final say for something like that
[07:42] <robotgeek> Arafangion: it's not 'free' (as in speech), it will be in the multiverse, pretty much close to where it is right now
[07:42] <jrsims> isn't 5 more OO?
[07:42] <T0mato> robotgeek
[07:42] <cafuego> jrsims: So?
[07:42] <Doomhammer> except for the whole some functions aren't present in PHP4...
[07:42] <jrsims> that's a pretty big diff. Lots of great benefits with 5.
[07:42] <T0mato> robotgeek
[07:42] <SEJeff> jrsims: Higher version != Higher Stability
[07:42] <robotgeek> T0mato: i dunno what you are talking about. could you be specific?
[07:42] <cafuego> jrsims: That's like saying C++ is better then C coz it has OO.
[07:42] <T0mato> i typed in lspci -v | grep wireless
[07:42] <Arafangion> SEJeff: I guess that's what it always boils down to.
[07:42] <T0mato> and nothing happend..no error nothing..
[07:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone here get gmailfs working?
[07:42] <wreckseal> how to install rpm files in terminal?
[07:42] <jrsims> I'm talking about flexibility
[07:42] <jrsims> and maintainability] 
[07:42] <warty> wreckseal: alien, if you have to
[07:42] <cafuego> jrsims: I'm talking about production-stable.
[07:43] <Arafangion> Anyway, goign to watch a DVD on my TV, instead of my brand new windows laptop, because windows is unable to play it.
[07:43] <robotgeek> T0mato: you are Ace?
[07:43] <SEJeff> jrsims: well php4 is fully supported. See php.net
[07:43] <Doomhammer> wreckseal: it would be far better if you could get a .deb package
[07:43] <cafuego> jrsims: It's not as if php5 isn't in breezy.
[07:43] <T0mato> yes i anm
[07:43] <cafuego> !info libapache2-mod-php5
[07:43] <wreckseal> ok
[07:43] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1823 kB, Installed size: 3980 kB
[07:43] <robotgeek> T0mato: try lspci | grep ethernet
[07:43] <T0mato> sigh
[07:43] <T0mato> why?
[07:43] <cafuego> You know, feel free to use it, it's there.
[07:44] <wreckseal> im going to install java for the browser to work on it
[07:44] <robotgeek> T0mato: we are trying to find out what your wireless card is, that's why
[07:44] <jrsims> F*ck php anyway. I'm doing everything in Rails from now on.
[07:44] <T0mato> robotgeek, can we not find out while im on windows?
[07:44] <robotgeek> T0mato: yeah, you could do that i guess
[07:44] <T0mato> okay how
[07:45] <cafuego> Oh, so you're just trolling.
[07:45] <T0mato> ?
[07:45] <SEJeff> yep
[07:45] <robotgeek> T0mato: Control Panel -> Devices (or whatever) -> Look for what wireles card you have
[07:45] <wreckseal> im going to install java for the browser.
[07:45] <T0mato> !google SIW
[07:45] <ubotu> T0mato: Wish i knew
[07:46] <T0mato> i love sex
[07:46] <T0mato> whoops
[07:46] <jrsims> Speaking of sex, this is my first day on Ubuntu.
[07:46] <T0mato> haha
[07:46] <SEJeff> Dapper is sex
[07:46] <jrsims> All I can say is, I'm going to have Shuttleworth's child.
[07:46] <SEJeff> Breezy is great too
[07:46] <T0mato> robotgeek, i had the wrong thing copied to my clipboard
[07:46] <nickrud> dangerous sex, maybe
[07:46] <T0mato> yo
[07:46] <T0mato> rob^
[07:46] <T0mato> robotgeek
[07:46] <T0mato> network card?
[07:47] <robotgeek> T0mato: please don't use 'enter' as punctuation
[07:47] <T0mato> network cards*
[07:47] <T0mato> yea eya
[07:48] <T0mato> okay robotgeek, i see two..i think it is Netopia
[07:48] <T0mato> Card 1 (Connected):	Netopia 802.11b WLAN USB Adapter
[07:48] <robotgeek> T0mato: i am not sure how it is on windows, it's been a long time!
[07:48] <jrsims> DISTRO WARS!!
[07:48] <T0mato> robotgeek, thats it. so what do i do now?
[07:48] <robotgeek> T0mato: i am googling, hold on
[07:48] <T0mato> k
[07:48] <durt> !start a race riot
[07:48] <ubotu> durt: I don't know
[07:48] <durt> !start a jihad
[07:48] <ubotu> Wish i knew, durt
[07:48] <T0mato> !ubuntu
[07:49] <ubotu> methinks ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[07:49] <T0mato> !sudo
[07:49] <ubotu> well, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:49] <jrsims> Ok, so I love Ubuntu, but there's a hole in my heart for Debian.
[07:49] <T0mato> !ndiswrapper
[07:49] <ubotu> I guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[07:49] <jrsims> Oh crap - speaking of debian, have you guys heard about Nexenta?
[07:49] <T0mato> have you heard that mandrake > *
[07:50] <wickedpuppy> T0mato, mandriva ...
[07:50] <SEJeff> jrsims: if you read /. or osnews, you have
[07:50] <T0mato> robotgeek, what excaclty are you googling for?
[07:50] <jrsims> Well, I want to get more info on Nexenta, but there's nothing out there yet.
[07:50] <fatehaze> Anyone have any experience with smrsh?  This is really giving me some trouble
[07:51] <T0mato> !smrsh
[07:51] <ubotu> T0mato: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:51] <T0mato> HAHA
[07:51] <T0mato> !mount
[07:51] <ubotu> [mount]  the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[07:51] <T0mato> !mount my arse
[07:51] <ubotu> T0mato: What?
[07:52] <robotgeek> !botabuse
[07:52] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[07:52] <T0mato> =(
[07:52] <jrsims> I'm going to mount my GF later.
[07:52] <robotgeek> T0mato: stop abusing the bot. I am trying to find out if there are infact drivers for your card
[07:52] <T0mato> kk
[07:52] <cafuego> jrsims: Do you know what a troll is?
[07:52] <fatehaze> Hell is smrsh
[07:53] <jrsims> where?
[07:53] <robotgeek> T0mato: i was unable to find if it works. i don't know if it works with ndiswrapper, the ndiswrapper wiki is down
[07:53] <wreckseal> what is the terminal command for rpm
[07:54] <wreckseal> what is the terminal command for rpm?
[07:54] <T0mato> robotgeek....!! ...do i need to find a driver?
[07:54] <SEJeff> wreckseal: rpm
[07:54] <robotgeek> T0mato: you might want to try the ndiswrapper installation procedure, and see if it works
[07:54] <T0mato> for Netopia or whatever
[07:54] <robotgeek> T0mato: yeah, looks like it
[07:54] <wreckseal> ok
[07:54] <T0mato> how can i install it..i ..have...no...internet...fucking...access..when..i..get..on..linux..thats...why...im...fucking...here
[07:54] <SEJeff> T0mato: Make sure you have the universe repository enabled. Then install ndisgtk. It is much easier
[07:54] <T0mato> *sigh*
[07:55] <T0mato> can't download anything
[07:55] <kiddecks> ur on the internet right now
[07:55] <wreckseal> it says "bash: rpm: command not found"
[07:55] <T0mato> YOU FUCKER
[07:55] <T0mato> im talking about
[07:55] <kiddecks> lol
[07:55] <T0mato> WHEN I GET ON LINUX
[07:55] <T0mato> jeez fucking louise
[07:55] <SEJeff> wreckseal: Because you are on ubuntu
[07:55] <wreckseal> then how?
[07:55] <SEJeff> T0mato: You might take a second to think that you aren't paying people trying to help you
[07:55] <linuxboy> T0mato: calm down please
[07:55] <T0mato> heh
[07:55] <durt> wreckseal: alien
[07:55] <T0mato> mmhmm
[07:55] <robotgeek> T0mato: i am sure people would want to help you when you abuse them, way to go!
[07:55] <T0mato> heh
[07:55] <SEJeff> T0mato: Just a thought... if you want people to help you for free, you have to be nice to them
[07:56] <stephans> does anyone know how to regenerate a xorg.conf file in ubuntu?
[07:56] <kiddecks> hey- i never used ubuntu before / have used gentoo/redhat/yellowdog so shouldnt' have that much to get used to, but this is my first 64 bit install
[07:56] <T0mato> abuse them..i already told you that i dont have internet access...there is no way for me to install anything..
[07:56] <wreckseal> huh?
[07:56] <kiddecks> whats teh diff between \	ubuntu-server-5.10-install-amd64.iso/ and the regular one?
[07:56] <kiddecks> just more server utils?
[07:56] <fatehaze> +b can't help those who can't help themselves
[07:56] <durt> wreckseal: man alien
[07:56] <robotgeek> stephans: you can use dexconf, or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:56] <stephans> thankyou
[07:57] <fatehaze> Anyone know of some smrsh/procmail/general mail server help channel out there?
[07:57] <fatehaze> I'm flirting with the end of my rope here
[07:57] <wreckseal> what is alien?
[07:57] <wreckseal> im on ubuntu!
[07:57] <T0mato> nvm
[07:58] <robotgeek> wreckseal: man alien, will tell you :)
[07:58] <wreckseal> dont work
[07:58] <wreckseal> No manual entry for alien
[07:58] <robotgeek> wreckseal: maybe you don't have alien, u need to apt-get install alien
[07:58] <wreckseal> ok
[07:58] <wickedpuppy> wreckseal, then you got to install alien firrst
[07:58] <wreckseal> sorry
[07:59] <wreckseal> thanks
[08:00] <drcode> hi all again
[08:00] <drcode> is there top in gui like in windows env.
[08:00] <[p> system monitor
[08:01] <drcode> ha ok
[08:01] <drcode> I didnt know
[08:01] <[p> you got it?
[08:02] <DR_K13> lolol
[08:02] <vlad> sal2all
[08:03] <_chani> if I install libswfdec will that get flash to magically work in konq?
[08:03] <mustard5> _chani, sounds like a #kubuntu question :)
[08:03] <CapSoft> lo folks
[08:04] <_chani> mustard5: they're all asleep :(
[08:04] <mustard5> ah ok :)
[08:04] <CapSoft> when i upgrade mozilla-firefox with synaptic i get a message that some .deb file is in use
[08:04] <CapSoft> how can i check what is using it?
[08:04] <mustard5> CapSoft, that sound like a wierd error message
[08:05] <CapSoft> i can't upgrade with apt-get either
[08:05] <_chani> also, my usb key isn't magically working. I stick it in, konq tries to open media:sda1 but fails- it doesn't exist. dmesg had some sda stuff, but iirc there was more stuff in gentoo when it worked...
[08:05] <CapSoft> *update
[08:05] <xask_linus> not that wierd ..
[08:05] <CapSoft> i wanted to upgrade everything to 5.04
[08:05] <CapSoft> since i run the release for that one
[08:05] <mustard5> CapSoft,  can you join #flood and paste the actual error message in there?
[08:05] <drcode> ./jaim
[08:05] <CapSoft> breezy to hoary
[08:05] <mustard5> thats backwards CapSoft
[08:06] <CapSoft> /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.debE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:06] <CapSoft> other way around then ;)
[08:06] <SEJeff> CapSoft: Close the opther opy of synaptic you have open
[08:06] <_chani> hey, can someone send me a random mp3 to test? I'm not sure if I have mp3 support working
[08:06] <CapSoft> ow sorry that i posted it herer
[08:06] <drcode> d
[08:06] <drcode> any one know if I Can tell gaim to be from left to right?
[08:06] <CapSoft> i thought, since it was not that long message...
[08:06] <mustard5> CapSoft, paste the entire output in #flood
[08:06] <drcode> any one know if I Can tell gaim to be from right to left
[08:06] <drcode> sorry
[08:06] <kandoora_> when i wanna build a package what does "make" do
[08:07] <kandoora_> and howcome it says cannot find a makefile when i know it's there
[08:07] <CapSoft> synaptic says that the files are inuse
[08:07] <robotgeek> _chani: google for test.mp3 :)
[08:07] <pfhor> kandoora: did you run ./configure first?
[08:08] <_chani> robotgeek: thanks
[08:08] <xask_linus> better goto alltheweb.com and search for audio .. mp3 ;-)
[08:08] <kandoora_> pfhor, yes and what does ./configure
[08:08] <CapSoft> how can i check what process uses a certain file or dir or something
[08:08] <CapSoft> it was a 4 char. command
[08:08] <SEJeff> CapSoft: Close synaptic
[08:08] <CapSoft> ended with 'of'
[08:08] <ruiwen> lsof?
[08:08] <robotgeek> CapSoft: lsof
[08:08] <xask_linus> gud question CapSoft ... i wanna know that too
[08:08] <New2ubuntu> help please...
[08:09] <wickedpuppy> kandoora_, ./configure will configure check for gcc and so on ... make will compile and make install will put the files in respective places
[08:09] <pfhor> kandoora: configure makes sure you have everything you need to build it and then creates the makefile
[08:09] <SEJeff> CapSoft: Close gnome-app-install, and all copies open of synaptic
[08:09] <CapSoft> thanks robotgeek
[08:09] <New2ubuntu> i am having a hard timegetting grub to work
[08:09] <kandoora_> pfhor, well i have a makefile but when i make it says i don't hava makefile
[08:09] <kandoora_> pfhor, eventhough it's there
[08:10] <pfhor> kandoora: what are you trying to build?
[08:10] <kandoora_> pfhor: spalah flash
[08:11] <pfhor> kandoora: when you run ./confiugure does it come up with any errors? or does it say "Creating makefile " at the end
[08:11] <kandoora_> pfhor, it doesn't
[08:11] <wreckseal> bye
[08:12] <kandoora_> pfhor, but i can see a makefile.am and other makefiles in the folder
[08:12] <_chani> ok, I'm still confused. which of the many flash-related packages to I want to install to get flash in browsers?
[08:12] <CapSoft> capsoft@ubuntu:/var/cache/apt/archives$ rm -f mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[08:12] <CapSoft> rm: cannot remove `mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb': Toegang geweigerdcapsoft@ubuntu:/var/cache/apt/archives$
[08:12] <mustard5> ubotu: tell CapSoft about pastebin
[08:12] <wreckseal> im from Palompon, Leyte, PHILIPPINES
[08:12] <zamny> hi
[08:12] <CapSoft> toegang geweigerd means : acces denied
[08:12] <pfhor> kandoora: yeah but there needs to be a file named: "Makefile"
[08:12] <wickedpuppy> CapSoft, did you do sudo ?
[08:12] <CapSoft> oops
[08:13] <mustard5> CapSoft, hehe
[08:13] <kandoora_> pfhor, it didn't create it
[08:13] <CapSoft> THANK!!!
[08:13] <pfhor> kandoora: well that would be why make can't find it then
[08:13] <CapSoft> gonna retry now
[08:13] <CapSoft> kinda obvious
[08:13] <CapSoft> stupid of me to forget
[08:14] <mustard5> CapSoft, we all do it
[08:14] <CapSoft> it's just that i am used to work with root account on gentoo
[08:14] <kandoora_> pfhor, i used auto-apt run so i'm sure all the required depends are there but it doesn't make a Makefile
[08:14] <CapSoft> omg
[08:14] <CapSoft> still the same error
[08:14] <CapSoft> :S
[08:14] <CapSoft> my firefox also can't launch :S
[08:14] <CapSoft> kinda wierd
[08:14] <wickedpuppy> kandoora_, sudo apt-get won't get you make file ... are you using apt-get or using source file ?
[08:14] <mustard5> CapSoft, pastebin the error and the command check pm from ubotu on the pastebin
[08:15] <CapSoft> kinda funny about the pastbin
[08:15] <CapSoft> but i need a browser for it
[08:15] <mustard5> CapSoft, install epiphany ?
[08:15] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, i didn't say sudo apt-get
[08:15] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, i said auto-apt run ./configure
[08:15] <_chani> I'm really confused. why can't I find the netscape flash plugin in Adept?
[08:15] <mustard5> CapSoft, or #flood
[08:16] <cyphase> What's the first law of UNIX everyone?
[08:16] <cafuego> !rule 1
[08:16] <ubotu> Rule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> kandoora_, you are building ... .deb ?
[08:16] <cyphase> lol
[08:16] <CapSoft> lol
[08:16] <mustard5> CapSoft, if you use #flood not everyone will see ti
[08:16] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, yep
[08:16] <pizux> is my ftp://seboche.homelinux.net/ work please?
[08:16] <cyphase> !rule 2
[08:16] <ubotu> cyphase: Not a clue
[08:16] <cyphase> !rule 3
[08:16] <ubotu> cyphase: Not a clue
[08:16] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, no, no ........tarball
[08:16] <cyphase> ok..
[08:16] <CapSoft> !rule 666
[08:16] <ubotu> CapSoft: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:16] <rob^> cyphase, all your base belong to us?
[08:16] <CapSoft> loooool
[08:17] <robotgeek> !botabuse
[08:17] <rob^> heh
[08:17] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[08:17] <CapSoft> omg mulambo
[08:17] <cyphase> The Second Law of UNIX: Do. NOT. Run. As. Root.
[08:17] <CapSoft> omg mustard
[08:17] <cafuego> cannibal
[08:17] <CapSoft> i installed epiphany
[08:17] <CapSoft> and it's a game
[08:17] <CapSoft> instead of a browser
[08:17] <CapSoft> :S
[08:17] <cyphase> lol
[08:17] <wickedpuppy> kandoora_, i am abit confused .. if i get a tarball to compile .. i do ./configure .. not apt-auto ./configure
[08:17] <pizux> ftp://seboche.homelinux.net/ someon could test for me please ?
[08:18] <CapSoft> how do i upgrade to 5.04 ?
[08:18] <cyphase> the browser package isn't called epiphany
[08:18] <CapSoft> any1 good sources.list
[08:18] <cafuego> CapSoft: Uh, 5.04 is old?
[08:18] <kandoora_> wicke
[08:18] <SEJeff> cafuego: Yes
[08:18] <CapSoft> the newest then
[08:18] <CapSoft> lol
[08:18] <cyphase> 5.10
[08:18] <cafuego> CapSoft: What version are you on now?
[08:18] <CapSoft> dunno
[08:18] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, please check what auto-apt does......
[08:18] <CapSoft> where do i check
[08:18] <cyphase> warty i'd guess
[08:18] <_chani> meh :(
[08:18] <cyphase> if we wants 5.04
[08:18] <_chani> why can't I get a flash plugin?? this makes no sense!
[08:18] <HappyFool> 'lsb_release -a' will tell you want version you're running
[08:19] <wickedpuppy> kandoora_, i been compiling for 5 years .. without auto-apt ...
[08:19] <cafuego> CapSoft: /etc/apt/sources.list; see what the third entry on a deb line is.
[08:19] <CapSoft> 4.10
[08:19] <CapSoft> i think
[08:19] <cyphase> CapSoft, the browser is epiphany-browser
[08:19] <HappyFool> !tell _chani about restricted
[08:19] <HappyFool> _chani: what sort of system are you on? ``normal'' pc, powerpc or amd64?
[08:19] <kandoora_> wick
[08:19] <CapSoft> i have hoary atm
[08:20] <CapSoft> so that would be?
[08:20] <CapSoft> new?
[08:20] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, can u complie spalah flash and c what happens
[08:20] <cafuego> CapSoft: Ok. See the /topic. Follow the first link you see.
[08:20] <CapSoft> dude
[08:20] <CapSoft> i don't have a browser
[08:20] <wickedpuppy> kandoora_, isn't it in repo ?
[08:20] <cafuego> CapSoft: Hoary is 5.04
[08:20] <cyphase> CapSoft, why not?
[08:20] <CapSoft> my firefox crashes
[08:20] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, i wish it was
[08:20] <cyphase> ah
[08:20] <cafuego> CapSoft: use links or lynx.
[08:20] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, i wouldn't have all this trouble
[08:20] <cyphase> CapSoft, do you have backports enabled?
[08:21] <_chani> HappyFool: normal. I cannot find a flash plugin package.
[08:21] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, is there an easier way
[08:21] <CapSoft> dunno
[08:21] <cyphase> well, use epiphany
[08:21] <CapSoft> where do i check backports?
[08:21] <CapSoft> i am installing it atm
[08:21] <cyphase> k
[08:21] <wickedpuppy> kandoora_, acn you do ./configure ?
[08:21] <CapSoft> k it runs
[08:22] <CapSoft> what version is breezy?
[08:22] <CapSoft> what version is the newest?
[08:22] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, did it, now what
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> kandoora_, read the README dude ...
[08:23] <HappyFool> _chani: have you read the RestrictedFormats wiki page yet?
[08:23] <cafuego> CapSoft: Breezy is 5.10. The latest is Breezy.
[08:23] <CapSoft> why does apt-get ask for the disk sometimes?
[08:24] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, buddy would u think i'd be asking for help if everything i did in the README worked?
[08:24] <_chani> HappyFool: yes, no help, I need to find the right sources to get the package from
[08:24] <CapSoft> why does it ask for the 5.04 disk?
[08:24] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, i have read the README and i did what it says, but it ain't working
[08:24] <irvin> CapSoft : did you dist-upgrade to Breezy?
[08:24] <CapSoft> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:24] <wickedpuppy> kandoora_, if it isn't work ... pls spam the devs ... alright .. try make and make installl :P
[08:24] <CapSoft> i am @ pre-upgrade
[08:25] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, can u compile it and c what happens
[08:25] <wickedpuppy> alright ... site to get the tarball pls
[08:25] <HappyFool> !tell _chani about repos
[08:25] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, just a sec
[08:25] <liable> stupid cdrom drive..
[08:25] <HappyFool> _chani: there's also a link at the top of that page to AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone here gotten gmailfs to work?
[08:27] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/spalah/spalah-flash-0.03.tar.gz?download
[08:27] <wickedpuppy> thanks kandoora_
[08:27] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, i hope it works with you, may b u can tell me what i'm doing wrong
[08:28] <michael_fc4linux> i got a simple question
[08:28] <michael_fc4linux> ndiswrapper for bcm4306.... do i have to have windows installed to use ndiswrapper?
[08:29] <wickedpuppy> kandoora_,
[08:29] <wickedpuppy> i am reading README ... it doesn't mention auto-apt ...
[08:30] <CapSoft> thanks guys
[08:30] <wickedpuppy> it says ./configure ... make ... cd src .. make install
[08:30] <CapSoft> i am updating at,
[08:30] <CapSoft> atm
[08:30] <CapSoft> gonna get some breakfast
[08:30] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, ok auto-apt was something i was trying to do
[08:31] <wickedpuppy> kandoora_, and how can you blame the README ? :P just follow their instructions pls
[08:31] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, i have and it ain't working
[08:31] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, did u try it
[08:31] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, i tried it both ways
[08:31] <HappyFool> maybe kandoora_ needs more *-dev packages
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> ok i am configuring
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> i got error on make kandoora_
[08:32] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, i was under the impression that auto-apt would prompt me to install any unavailable depends
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> did you get too ?
[08:32] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, sure did
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> then why not says so ??? aryo ...
[08:33] <robotgeek> michael_fc4linux: nope, you don't need to have windows installed
[08:33] <wickedpuppy> No package 'libgnomecanvas-2.0' found <--- this is the package missing on my system ...
[08:33] <wickedpuppy> for you it might be different
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> oh kandoora_ successful ./configure will write makefile ... i have it
[08:34] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, make
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> make ?
[08:34] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, did u make
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> yup
[08:34] <michael_fc4linux> robotgeek: thanks... my first time with ubuntu distro
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> and i pasted the error i got
[08:34] <michael_fc4linux> robotgeek: I've never used the ndis wrapper before.. matter of fact first time with linux on laptop
[08:35] <robotgeek> !tell michael_fc4linux about ndiswrapper
[08:35] <michael_fc4linux> robotgeek: thanks
[08:36] <robotgeek> michael_fc4linux: good luck!
[08:36] <michael_fc4linux> robotgeek: stupid broadcom chipsets
[08:37] <cafuego> michael_fc4linux: Soon... soon...
[08:37] <cafuego> michael_fc4linux: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[08:37] <robotgeek> michael_fc4linux: i hope you are on a x86 machine, and not a powerpc
[08:38] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, can i paste it in #flood and show you what i get
[08:38] <michael_fc4linux> i am
[08:38] <wickedpuppy> kandoora_, sure :P
[08:38] <michael_fc4linux> i wish i knew how to program better
[08:38] <mark`> m
[08:38] <michael_fc4linux> maybe after i finish my degree and get some experience I can do this stuff
[08:38] <cafuego> michael_fc4linux: Even then, reverse engineering is voodoo.
[08:38] <michael_fc4linux> ya... i bet
[08:39] <wickedpuppy> michael_fc4linux, why wait till degree ?? go sourceforge and hack
[08:40] <_chani> anyone know what the difference is between flashplayer-mozilla and flashplayer-nonfree? ignoring hte licensing... like, is one considered better?
[08:40] <deFrysk> _chani, I think they are about the same
[08:41] <_chani> k
[08:41] <cafuego> _chani: flashplayer-nonfree == macromedia
[08:41] <_chani> wait.. one says player, the other says plugin.. o.0
[08:41] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, can u /join #flood so u can c it
[08:41] <deFrysk> cafuego, so there is a difference ?
[08:41] <cafuego> _chani: Flash sucks no matter which player/plugin you use, so it doesn't matter much ;-)
[08:41] <_chani> eh. I don't realy care about nonfree anyways, just need to keep my friend happy.
[08:41] <cafuego> !info flashplayer-mozilla
[08:41] <ubotu> flashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB
[08:41] <cafuego> !info flashplayer-nonfree?
[08:41] <cafuego> !info flashplayer-nonfree
[08:42] <_chani> s/player/plugin
[08:42] <deFrysk> lol
[08:42] <cafuego> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[08:42] <_chani> and I was comparing hte package descriptions, not much info there :)
[08:42] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[08:42] <deFrysk> nonfree seems to be of a later version
[08:42] <cafuego> _chani: Get flashplayer-mozilla
[08:43] <michael_fc4linux> wickedpuppy: My knowledge is very limited in C, C++, PHP, Perl, etc..
[08:43] <michael_fc4linux> wickedpuppy: I can "crawl" around the code
[08:43] <emisky> !list
[08:43] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:43] <CapSoft> what prog. lang ?
[08:43] <wickedpuppy> michael_fc4linux, the only way to improve is read .. and ask in #c or #perl ...
[08:44] <michael_fc4linux> wickedpuppy: and get a big reference book
[08:44] <_chani> oops. I froze amarok
[08:44] <michael_fc4linux> wickedpuppy: one of these days :)
[08:44] <wickedpuppy> michael_fc4linux, i be buying adavanced programming in unix environment soon ... in a few days ... hope that helps me
[08:45] <michael_fc4linux> wickedpuppy: I think I will be buying programming for dummies
[08:45] <michael_fc4linux> haha
[08:45] <wickedpuppy> haaaa ... well good luck dude .. remember to come back and help out on freenode :P
[08:45] <CapSoft> java ;)
[08:45] <rain`> Guess the quote: "He's not human. He's a piece of iron"
[08:45] <cafuego> !forget test
[08:45] <michael_fc4linux> I haven't taken the classes on programming yet either
[08:45] <ubotu> cafuego: i forgot test
[08:46] <michael_fc4linux> i'm on freenode quite a bit.. usually in the fedora channel though
[08:46] <wickedpuppy> i can see ... :P
[08:46] <michael_fc4linux> ya...anyway
[08:46] <cafuego> michael_fc4linux: Ewww, did you disinfect yourself before you came in here?
[08:46] <michael_fc4linux> I just tried the ubuntu live cd
[08:46] <michael_fc4linux> cafuego...
[08:46] <CapSoft> 518MB opgehaald in 16m28s (524kB/s) <-- now that is a nice upgrade speed
[08:46] <michael_fc4linux> i'm learning
[08:47] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, check please
[08:47] <cafuego> michael_fc4linux: ;-)
[08:47] <dobby_> hello i just installed the new ubuntu version, last week with the old ubuntu rsync word fine but now i get the following error: 192.168.10.101: Connection refused
[08:47] <dobby_> unexpected EOF in read_timeout
[08:47] <michael_fc4linux> ubuntu is nice so far though.. from what i can tell with the live cd
[08:47] <cafuego> michael_fc4linux: Now imagine that, with the speed improved by a LOT when it runs from harddisk :-)
[08:48] <dobby_> does someone has a clue why I get this error ?
[08:48] <michael_fc4linux> true... have you guys recompiled the kernel with ubuntu?
[08:48] <CapSoft> true @ cafuego
[08:48] <michael_fc4linux> i am reading into the kernal now
[08:48] <wickedpuppy> eh kandoora_ can answer me in flood ?
[08:48] <michael_fc4linux> my understanding is... if you tweak the kernal, then you can get better performance right?
[08:48] <CapSoft> possible michael_fc4linux
[08:48] <CapSoft> depends ;)
[08:49] <wickedpuppy> michael_fc4linux, depends ... you could also crash it
[08:49] <CapSoft> indeed
[08:49] <CapSoft> looool
[08:49] <michael_fc4linux> thats what I will probably do!
[08:49] <michael_fc4linux> but you gotta take the rist in learning
[08:49] <michael_fc4linux> *risk
[08:49] <CapSoft> true
[08:49] <wickedpuppy> kandoora_, what you typed to get that output ? ./configure ?
[08:49] <CapSoft> try vmware ;)
[08:49] <frogzoo> Hey peeps - is there any (easy) way to allocate more than 7 partitions per HDD?
[08:49] <michael_fc4linux> for 30 days
[08:50] <CapSoft> michael_fc4linux, try vmware
[08:50] <michael_fc4linux> or wait/... there is the vmware player now isn't there?
[08:50] <CapSoft> u can have a windowed OS running
[08:50] <CapSoft> yup
[08:50] <CapSoft> for windows and linux
[08:51] <CapSoft> epiphany is fast!!
[08:51] <CapSoft> is it based on mozilla?
[08:51] <crimsun> yes
[08:51] <crimsun> it uses Gecko
[08:53] <CapSoft> it rocks
[08:53] <kandoora_> wickedpuppy, yes
[08:53] <CapSoft> crimsun can it use javaapplets? and flash?
[08:53] <CapSoft> omg i see build in flash support
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> kandoora_, ... we talk on #flood better ..
[08:54] <frogzoo> CapSoft, firefox with pipelining enabled flies
[08:54] <CapSoft> ?
[08:54] <CapSoft> my firefox doesn't run
[08:54] <CapSoft> it crashes i think :S
[08:54] <_chani> erm. amarok crashes when it finishes playing an mp3...
[08:55] <frogzoo> CapSoft, probly your flash plugin?
[08:55] <CapSoft> ow don't bother _chani
[08:55] <CapSoft> start to bother when it crashes in the beginning
[08:55] <frogzoo> Firefox on Ubuntu is way stable
[08:55] <_chani> also, my usb isn't working. I get stuff in dmesg about sda, but I would expect stuff about sda1 too and that's not there
[08:55] <_chani> CapSoft: unstable program? then why is it the default? o.0
[08:55] <crimsun> _chani: sda1 is a partition on sda, so you won't see messages about it
[08:55] <w0rd54> frogzoo: bullshit
[08:56] <CapSoft> firefox ROCKS!
[08:56] <w0rd54> firefox has crashed on multiple computers for me
[08:56] <frogzoo> _chani, the dev's for usb are auto allocated - so they can move around
[08:56] <crimsun> w0rd54: watch the language, please
[08:56] <w0rd54> on ubuntu
[08:56] <w0rd54> fresh loads
[08:56] <w0rd54> etc.
[08:56] <CapSoft> but doens't start anymore on my box... :S
[08:56] <frogzoo> w0rd54, which Ubuntu release u on?
[08:56] <wickedpuppy> it has yet to crashed here ... 1 year+ now
[08:56] <w0rd54> frogzoo: breezy
[08:56] <_chani> crimsun: funny, I did in gentoo. anyways, konq is trying to go to media:/sda1 and failing.
[08:56] <CapSoft> then it must be some add-in
[08:56] <_chani> frogzoo: in this case they seemed to have moved to nowhere
[08:56] <w0rd54> crimsun: ahh yes....forgot some people still believe in "bad" words
[08:56] <CapSoft> cuz default it wouldn't crash
[08:57] <frogzoo> w0rd0r, I'm on 5.04/Hoary and never had a problem cept flash
[08:57] <w0rd54> hrm might have been flash for me
[08:57] <crimsun> w0rd54: I believe there's a Code of Conduct that governs utterances in this channel.
[08:57] <CapSoft> i am upgrading to 5.10 i am soooo happy :P
[08:58] <CapSoft> by the way
[08:58] <CapSoft> while upgrading
[08:58] <CapSoft> apt-get install pingus first
[08:58] <w0rd54> crimsun: I appreciate your knowledge, concern and respectable diligence.
[08:58] <w0rd54> crimsun: I think the command you are looking for is "man stfu"
[08:58] <w0rd54> crimsun: might need to grab the source for it tho...
[08:58] <rain`> mv /dev/crimsun /dev/null
[08:59] <crimsun> w0rd54: that's more like it.
[08:59] <w0rd54> crimsun: lol
[08:59] <frogzoo> w0rd0r, which repo is that in?
[08:59] <w0rd54> crimsun: do me a favor...get opz and ban me...
[08:59] <cafuego> w0rd54: Please stop trolling.
[08:59] <Slarti2> well thats the last time I ever do that
[08:59] <rain`> mv /dev/w0rd54 /dev/null
[08:59] <_chani> ack! I got the bad flash plugin that has icky problems like not displaying text or getting keyboard input! my friend wanted to play flash games...
[08:59] <Slarti2> note to self : don't install kde on standard ubuntu
[09:00] <w0rd54> mv /dev/w0rd54 /tmp/trash.outpout
[09:00] <rain`> _chani: there is no "bad" plugin, you just need the package that has the right fonts
[09:00] <w0rd54> Slarti2: reason being?
[09:00] <Slarti2> it trashed pretty much everything
[09:00] <_chani> rain`: oh?
[09:00] <cafuego> Slarti2: Howso? It's absolutely fine here.
[09:00] <_chani> rain`: well, that would explain the missing text, but what about the lack of keyboard input?
[09:00] <w0rd54> I installed kde on breezy and went just fine
[09:01] <_chani> hmm. I should';ve read all the way to the bottom.
[09:01] <Slarti2> well, gnome was pooped royally
[09:01] <cafuego> Slarti2: (well, it's ugly like KDE is, but both it and Gnome work as advertised)
[09:01] <_chani> so the fonts can be fixed. but the keyboard input is kinda a big thing
[09:01] <Slarti2> eventually had to remove kde, and reset everything to scratch
[09:02] <rain`> try installing msttcorefonts and gsfonts-x11
[09:02] <Slarti2> no harm though, I'll bung kubuntu from scratch on later
[09:02] <_chani> rain`: installing fonts already :) that was the smaller of the two problems, though
[09:02] <w0rd54> Slarti2: runs fine for me
[09:02] <Slarti2> happy for you
[09:02] <Slarti2> didn't for me
[09:02] <w0rd54> Slarti2: if you are having issues with both, could be your hardware
[09:02] <_chani> I picked some random flash game to test, and the thing relies on keyboard control
[09:02] <w0rd54> or configuration of x.
[09:03] <frogzoo> wondering why people on Ubuntu bother with kde, seeing as gnome is "standard" ?
[09:03] <crimsun> frogzoo: choice.
[09:03] <dtrostis> Im sure it's a stupid question, but my windows machine can't see my ubuntu machine what can be wrong?
[09:03] <Slarti2> I came to ubuntu from mandrake and slackware
[09:03] <Slarti2> used to kde
[09:03] <w0rd54> nice
[09:04] <w0rd54> why does this chan lack @'s?
[09:04] <w0rd54> not even a bot...wtf?
[09:04] <crimsun> we have a bot, we have ops.
[09:04] <w0rd54> ahhh
[09:04] <w0rd54> interesting.
[09:04] <robotgeek> w0rd54: u don;t want to incur the ops wrath :)
[09:04] <w0rd54> rofl
[09:04] <Phil|vm> its just not something they should need to do
[09:04] <w0rd54> robotgeek: do a whois first and realize I have at least *1* bnc
[09:04] <w0rd54> robotgeek: do the math...
[09:04] <dtrostis> Can't someone answer my question, please?
[09:04] <robotgeek> w0rd54: i don't care?
[09:04] <NoUse> !tell dtrostis about samba
[09:04] <frogzoo> crimsun, sure, and I respect that, just I choose to be lazy :D
[09:04] <Phil|vm> lol, yeah so they can gline you twice for fun
[09:04] <w0rd54> robotgeek: !tell robotgeek about dns
[09:04] <w0rd54> rofl
[09:04] <w0rd54> gline?
[09:04] <w0rd54> hahhaha
[09:05] <dtrostis> I configures samba but for some reason I must be doing something worng
[09:05] <dtrostis> wrong
[09:05] <Phil|vm> omg, i think we've got a 1337 uber whatever'
[09:05] <w0rd54> you mean they can ban multiple isps at once?
[09:05] <CapSoft> lol
[09:05] <NoUse> dtrostis I think they have to be on the same workgroup
[09:05] <w0rd54> is that a gline Phil|vm?
[09:05] <dtrostis> they are on the same workgroup
[09:05] <Phil|vm> depends on the conditions set
[09:06] <w0rd54> Phil|vm: mmmkay...you can ban say rr.com and say .jp shell at same time?
[09:06] <Phil|vm> depends on the conditions set
[09:06] <crimsun> What does this have to do with Ubuntu support? (Nothing.)
[09:06] <NoUse> dtrostis can you pull it up by typeing \\ipaddress in the run box on windows?
[09:06] <Phil|vm> exactly, i'm trying not to talk about it
[09:07] <w0rd54> Phil|vm: looks like I'm gonna have to google this "advanced intuited ban" support you are referring to
[09:07] <dtrostis> I can ping from my windows to the ubuntu ip adress.
[09:07] <ksmurf> I was looking at my etc/dbus-1/event.d folder and found 2 instances of network-manager...... can I remove one?  if so how?
[09:07] <pickett> anyone know how to delete the taskbar in xfce?
[09:08] <crimsun> w0rd54: surely you can find far more intelligent methods of being productive than trolling in this channel.
[09:08] <NoUse> dtrostis and if you do \\ipaddress?
[09:08] <dtrostis> It says that the network path was not found
[09:09] <NoUse> dtrostis did you start the samba daemon?
[09:09] <dtrostis> how do you do that?
[09:09] <NoUse> dtrostis sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[09:09] <dtrostis> maybe I haven't started samba?
[09:10] <CapSoft> epiphany the game is also wicked!
[09:11] <CapSoft> while upgrading
[09:11] <dtrostis> it says is not such file or directory
[09:11] <NoUse> dtrostis did you install samba?
[09:11] <dtrostis> I think i did
[09:11] <NoUse> did you read through the links I sent you?
[09:12] <johnnybe1ak> hey guys, I would like to copy the key combinations from Mac Os X for french characters, whereby i would press option then e, then e again and get a ""
[09:12] <johnnybe1ak> e with a ' on top of it, anyone know how I might do this
[09:12] <dtrostis> It says that I have but I'm not sure
[09:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> johnnybe1ak you want to edit your keymap files then.
[09:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> johndilley is that a grave or a breve?
[09:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> johndilley i had an esperanto keymap like that but it doesn't work in dreezy.
[09:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> breezy
[09:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's been broken since upgrading
[09:13] <RezDawg> Does anyone know if I can import my yahoo addressbook to evolution? thanks
[09:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> johnnybe1ak i'll show you an example of this file /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/dvorak
[09:13] <Hentai^XP> anyone have a guide for bittorrent in ubuntu?
[09:14] <BROKEN_LADDER>     key <AD07> { [          g,  G, gcircumflex, Gcircumflex ]    };
[09:14] <crimsun> johnnybe1ak: you can use the Character Palette utility (add it to the Panel) and/or set a Compose key in System> Preferences> Keyboard> Layout Options> Compose key position
[09:14] <robotgeek> johnnybe1ak: try System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layout options (compose key)
[09:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun huh?
[09:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> compose?
[09:14] <robotgeek> heh
[09:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> you mean third level chooser.
[09:14] <crimsun> no, I mean Compose key position for simplicity
[09:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> what does that do differently?
[09:15] <ksmurf> how do I change something in my event.d dir? or do I need to change it somewhere else?
[09:15] <dtrostis> Nouse: Can you help me here to make sure I'm doing ok?
[09:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> but to add the character he has to edit his keymap right?
[09:15] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: it's just a simple way of choosing a Compose key, there's nothing fancy or different
[09:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> what do you mean a compose key?
[09:15] <robotgeek> RezDawg: i am not sure if yahoo allows exporting addresses.
[09:15] <michael_fc4linux> Is the 5.10 Breezy Badger just one CD?
[09:15] <michael_fc4linux> install
[09:15] <robotgeek> michael_fc4linux: yep
[09:16] <michael_fc4linux> holy crap
[09:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> since "upgrading" to breezy, i can't make any changes to my keymap.
[09:16] <dtrostis> For some reason  I used sudo apt-get install samba but I get an error
[09:16] <michael_fc4linux> robotgeek: so used to the other distros that make you have 3-4 cds
[09:17] <robotgeek> michael_fc4linux: ubuntu has the basic packages, one task ->one app
[09:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun you know anything about getting gmaifs to work?
[09:17] <NoUse> dtrostis install the samba package
[09:17] <NoUse> dtrostis pastebin the error
[09:17] <NoUse> !tell dtrostis about pastebin
[09:17] <RezDawg> robotgeek, i have a CSV addressbook just trying to figure out if i can import it
[09:17] <michael_fc4linux> thats cool though... and just use apt get for anything else you need I suppose
[09:17] <dtrostis> pastebin?
[09:18] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: I haven't used my gmail acct, so I've had little incentive to look at gmailfs. So no, sorry.
[09:18] <NoUse> ubotu sent you a link
[09:18] <ubotu> NoUse: Are you on ritalin?
[09:18] <robotgeek> RezDawg: hmm, okay...i think you might be able to import it, or convert it a .vcf
[09:18] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: what're the specific error messages?
[09:18] <dtrostis> to where?
[09:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> you want pastebin?
[09:18] <dtrostis> to my email?
[09:18] <ksmurf> I was looking at my etc/dbus-1/event.d folder and found 2 instances of network-manager...... can I remove one?  if so how?
[09:18] <NoUse> dtrostis a private IRC message
[09:18] <michael_fc4linux> I love broadband at 2am.... downloading 5.10  600kb/s
[09:19] <NoUse> dtrostis no its a just PM on IRC
[09:19] <picca> in Gnome are there any shortcut keys that take your directly to a workspace other than using <ctrl>+<alt>+<arrow>?
[09:19] <michael_fc4linux> actually its 577.1 average
[09:19] <NoUse> dtrostis http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[09:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> you in #flood crimsun ?
[09:19] <zorba64> michael_fc4linux: skite
[09:19] <RezDawg> robotgeek, well so far i cant seem to figure out how to import it at all. as far as converting it to .vcf im not famaliar with doing that
[09:19] <snadge> will hoary livecd be able to resize a reiserfs partition?
[09:19] <Hentai^XP> !tell Hentai^XP about bittorrent
[09:19] <michael_fc4linux> zorba64: skite?
[09:19] <robotgeek> picca: you need to set them in System -> Preferences -> Shortcuts
[09:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun i pasted it to #flood
[09:20] <picca> thanks robotgeek
[09:20] <michael_fc4linux> zorba64: sorry im retarded
[09:20] <zorba64> michael_fc4linux: Aussie for a "bragger"
[09:20] <snadge> it told me reiserfs was not supported.. but someone said something about resize_reiserfs on a forum, what is this?
[09:20] <CrackersKeenan> Hentai^XP - love the nick
[09:20] <dtrostis> and what now?
[09:20] <Hentai^XP> ?
[09:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> where do i file bug reports again?
[09:20] <michael_fc4linux> zorba64: I see... well you know the US is ranked like 14 in speed
[09:20] <CrackersKeenan> Hentai means bizzarre sex doesn't it??
[09:20] <Hentai^XP> CrackersKeenan ok yes
[09:20] <NoUse> dtrostis did you put the error in that site?
[09:20] <Hentai^XP> no
[09:20] <michael_fc4linux> average of course
[09:20] <CrackersKeenan> ah
[09:20] <dtrostis> wait a minute
[09:20] <pizux> yop help is someone coulmd test my ftp please ftp://seboche.homelinux.net/
[09:20] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: ok, I'll take a look at gmailfs in a bit. I have a few packages to sort through first.
[09:21] <pizux> under firefox
[09:21] <Hentai^XP> hold a minute CrackersKeenan
[09:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> thanks
[09:21] <pizux> ps
[09:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> wicked
[09:21] <CrackersKeenan> anyway... has anyone here tried to sell products on ebay using Firefox/Ubuntu?  It seems to not find my pictures
[09:21] <zorba64> pizux: Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at seboche.homelinux.net.
[09:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> where can i file a keymap bug report?
[09:21] <dtrostis> Yes I did
[09:21] <CrackersKeenan> I have done a chmod so that it's readable by anyone
[09:21] <pizux> shit
[09:21] <Hentai^XP> CrackersKeenan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hentai
[09:21] <CrackersKeenan> cool I'll give it a look Hentai^XP
[09:22] <michael_fc4linux> pizux:  your dyndns
[09:22] <pizux> yes
[09:22] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: on bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[09:22] <NoUse> dtrostis paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to same site
[09:22] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: I'll bet your dyndns updater is actually updating your local ip address
[09:22] <pizux> michael_fc4linux,
[09:22] <dtrostis> Now, there is any way to get windows to see my machine? It's weird because when I ping to my IP adress it recognize it without problems
[09:22] <NoUse> dtrostis you haven't installed samba yet
[09:22] <pizux> can i give u my proftpd conf?
[09:23] <michael_fc4linux> here is the dns for  seboche.homelinux.net
[09:23] <dtrostis> I know
[09:23] <NoUse> dtrostis yeah, just post your sources.list file
[09:23] <michael_fc4linux> pizux:  192.168.1.2
[09:23] <pizux> and how to activate dyndns
[09:24] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: you are using dyndns right?   I get that from the homelinux.net
[09:24] <pizux> yes
[09:24] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: I have a homelinux.org dyndns account myself
[09:24] <dtrostis> I just sent it
[09:24] <CrackersKeenan> right hentai^xp, I've been educated.
[09:24] <CrackersKeenan> so has anyone sold on ebay through firefox and ubuntu?
[09:24] <NoUse> dtrostis run apt-get update and then try installed samba again
[09:24] <Hentai^XP> lol CrackersKeenan
[09:24] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: what little utility are you using to update the actual ip address?
[09:25] <pizux> ddclient
[09:25] <CrackersKeenan> cause the ebay website doesn't seem to like firefox on ubuntu as far as i can tell
[09:25] <michael_fc4linux> ok... im assuming it's installed behind a NAT
[09:25] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: right?
[09:25] <NoUse> dtrostis you should replace your sources.list with the one here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:26] <[nige] > hey all
[09:26] <pizux> yes got a nat
[09:26] <pizux> by a comtrend ct633
[09:26] <[nige] > my smtp server stop issueing certificates
[09:26] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: thats your problem, I bet, is that your ddclient is cathing the local ip from eth0 or so... and relaying that to dyndns
[09:26] <foxiness> [nige] , hi
[09:27] <[nige] > how do i get it to start again, i am using exim4, courier imap, and sasl2
[09:27] <[nige] > hi foxiness
[09:27] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: there are ways around this... you need to go into ddclient and see if it can
[09:27] <SpudULike> Hi room, I am trying to use the escputil programme, a utility tool for Epson printers.  It looks like I need to run it in raw mode and pass details of the printer connection from the command line.  I seem to be having difficulty in finding the correct device name for the printer.  The Printer Manager tells me it is on device 'usb://Epson/tylus C66' , which escputil doesn't recognise.  What otherdevice name should I try?
[09:27] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: connect to some outside website or host to determine your actual ip address
[09:27] <pizux> ok
[09:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm unable to log in to my bugzilla account. :(
[09:27] <[nige] > i can send mail form inside of my domain name
[09:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> i tried the password i created it with and the password it just sent me.
[09:27] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: or you could always just "update" the dyndns account from the webpage... but that is not really convienent
[09:28] <[nige] > but externally i cant send, as in log in via thunderbird connect to the imap server and send
[09:28] <tabb> When i try and install ubuntu from the DVD it stios at scsi [success]  - any ideas?
[09:28] <damnhil> can someone help me with English?
[09:28] <CapSoft> damnhil, were rare ypu from?
[09:28] <HappyFool> heh
[09:28] <HappyFool> is that english? ;)
[09:29] <CrackersKeenan> damn firefox
[09:29] <CrackersKeenan> grrr
[09:29] <dtrostis> I'm trying it now
[09:29] <pizux> there is no other way?
[09:30] <michael_fc4linux> pizux:  in ddclient... or maybe another client... you want the program to query an outside soruce.. any source outside the NAT .. the program should store the info (your actual IP) and relay that to DynDns
[09:30] <dtrostis> how can I replace it? it's a read only file
[09:30] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: most of those dyndns program thingys come with this feature for this specific problem... at least the ones I have seen
[09:31] <dtrostis> nouse?
[09:31] <CapSoft> my upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 is now at the point of regenerating fonts cache... how long does it take from then?
[09:32] <NoUse> dtrostis you have to use sudo
[09:32] <CapSoft> dtrostis, what should windows see?
[09:33] <CrackersKeenan> while i'm here, do there exist x-chat rooms which discuss harleys?  or brewing beer?
[09:33] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: try this link:  http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1378354&forum_id=399428
[09:34] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: it seems that ddclient  isn't too featureful...
[09:34] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: maybe try another client
[09:34] <HappyFool> CrackersKeenan: maybe on another IRC network; freenode (this network) is mostly about open-source software development
[09:34] <CapSoft> start one urself CrackersKeenan
[09:34] <CapSoft> or list the channels
[09:34] <HappyFool> CrackersKeenan: i think x-chat has a list of other servers; try maybe efnet
[09:34] <CapSoft> and it's not an xchat room
[09:34] <CrackersKeenan> thanks happyfool... but how do I get to another one?  I haven't used xchat much
[09:35] <dtrostis> sorry NoUse
[09:35] <CapSoft> it's a channel on an irc server ;)
[09:35] <CrackersKeenan> thanks capsoft lol
[09:35] <vortek> how do we get java working in unbuntu with firefox /
[09:35] <HappyFool> CrackersKeenan: um. is there maybe a 'Servers' menu at the top of x-chat (i'm not using it)
[09:35] <dtrostis> I was trying unsuccesfully to replace the sources.list file with the one you've sent me
[09:35] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: I have a linksys router.... all I did was install a 3rd party firmware package.. and use the builtin dyndns update client in the router.. works like a charm
[09:35] <[nige] > hmmm
[09:35] <CapSoft> u can use a lot of different irc clients....
[09:35] <CapSoft> xchat is just one of them
[09:35] <CrackersKeenan> Obviously I need to start at the beginning.  Getting here was easy enough but I dont' really know what I did
[09:35] <HappyFool> !tell vortek about java
[09:35] <CrackersKeenan> yep happyfool, I'll give it a look
[09:35] <vortek> !javadeb
[09:35] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[09:36] <NoUse> dtrostis where are you having problems?
[09:36] <vortek> 10x
[09:36] <dtrostis> trying to replace the sources.list file with the one you have sent me
[09:36] <CrackersKeenan> Ok I have seen the list happyfool, but how can I tell which server has a channel about harleys?  or beer?
[09:37] <CapSoft> connect to the server
[09:37] <NoUse> dtrostis sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and paste from that site
[09:37] <CapSoft> and list the channels
[09:37] <defcon8> /list command
[09:37] <CrackersKeenan> cheers capsoft
[09:37] <CapSoft> or type in /j #beer
[09:37] <HappyFool> CrackersKeenan: i really don't know, sorry. try efnet -- there are thousands of channels there
[09:37] <defcon8> yeah and see if anyone is in there
[09:37] <frogzoo> CrackersKeenan, best bet is google "irc harleys" etc
[09:37] <CrackersKeenan> cheers frogzoo
[09:37] <CrackersKeenan> and cheers everyone
[09:38] <CapSoft> or type in /j #beer
[09:38] <CrackersKeenan> now if anyone knows how to get firefox to co-operate with ebay....
[09:38] <saniX> hi guys
[09:38] <CapSoft> it doesn't???? it should work
[09:38] <CapSoft> lo saniX
[09:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> if anyone here has healthnet insurance, i can lookup information for you with your policy number.
[09:38] <hawking> to play mpeg,mpg,wmv files do i just have to install w32codecs or do i need smth else?
[09:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> i hacked their site
[09:38] <CapSoft> lol @ BROKEN_LADDER
[09:38] <CapSoft> nice
[09:38] <CrackersKeenan> capsoft - I try to load a picture of a tennis racket I'm selling.  It just doesn't see it, even though I have done the "browse" thing
[09:38] <CapSoft> hawking, try vlc as player
[09:39] <CrackersKeenan> I can buy on ebay, but I can't load pictures of stuff I'm selling
[09:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> dummies made a typo that exposes some php
[09:39] <CapSoft> lol
[09:39] <mloskot> hi all! Anyone able to help with ndiswrapper?
[09:39] <hawking> vlc?
[09:39] <CrackersKeenan> Anyone here want to buy a tennis racket?
[09:39] <spiral> hi
[09:39] <CrackersKeenan> lol
[09:39] <dtrostis> ok, I replaced I didi it worng before, sorry
[09:40] <NoUse> dtrostis its ok
[09:40] <NoUse> dtrostis now run apt-get update and then try installing samba
[09:40] <vortek> were make-kpkg on unbuntu
[09:40] <vortek> I cant find it in apt-cache
[09:40] <CapSoft> later guys
[09:40] <CapSoft> reboot
[09:40] <dtrostis> It says everywhere : Couldn't stat source package
[09:40] <HappyFool> !tell vortek about kernelhowto
[09:40] <HappyFool> vortek: have you setup your repositories?
[09:41] <NoUse> dtrostis did you run apt-get update or upgrade?
[09:41] <saniX> hawkingl vlc very good player
[09:41] <dtrostis> install
[09:41] <HappyFool> vortek: ah, the package is kernel-package
[09:41] <NoUse> dtrostis please read what I'm sending you, run apt-get update first
[09:41] <vortek> HappyFool  i meant java-package
[09:41] <CrackersKeenan> titten ficken, ja?
[09:41] <vortek> wait i got it
[09:42] <dtrostis> I'm doing that now
[09:42] <vortek> thanxs
[09:42] <CrackersKeenan> Sorry for being off-topic all
[09:42] <dtrostis> it updated, now what?
[09:42] <NoUse> dtrostis try installing samba
[09:43] <dtrostis> it looks like it's working
[09:43] <dtrostis> Yes, it's installed
[09:43] <dtrostis> and it started the samba daemons
[09:43] <NoUse> dtrostis see if you can spot it from your windows machine
[09:43] <vortek> woops
[09:43] <michael_fc4linux> smaba : get sway
[09:43] <vortek> i can't fnd make-java
[09:43] <michael_fc4linux> swat
[09:44] <dtrostis> yes, now it's working, stupid program!!! :) Thank you for your help
[09:44] <HappyFool> vortek: it will be easier if you install the debs from !javadeb
[09:44] <mloskot> I
[09:44] <vortek> I mean make-kpkg for for the java make
[09:44] <dtrostis> Is this thing fixed in the new version of Ubuntu?
[09:44] <vortek> HappyFool  i did that
[09:44] <HappyFool> vortek: it's make-jpkg
[09:44] <vortek> i just get a giant spiining java now on www's
[09:44] <NoUse> dtrostis something got screwed up in your sources.list
[09:44] <HappyFool> vortek: then you don't need the make-jpkg stuff
[09:44] <vortek> I did it the old way in debian
[09:44] <NoUse> dtrostis it works by default usually
[09:44] <mloskot> I'd like to update ndiswrapper from 1.1 comming with Ubuntu kernel to 1.5 (current stable). Is there any problem expected?
[09:44] <vortek> HappyFool  i dont have the bottons though
[09:45] <dtrostis> Yes, it seems that way. I hope my smb conf. is ok
[09:45] <NoUse> dtrostis I do however encourage you to try breezy, it is quite nice
[09:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's quite nice except for all the stuff it breaks when you upgrade to it.
[09:46] <dtrostis> It's my fisrt experience with ubuntu, I've been using MEPIS, so it's some changes I have to get used to them.
[09:46] <CrackersKeenan> Ok I have had enough of computers for one day.  I'm going to drink beers.  have fun everone
[09:46] <NoUse> dtrostis if you have trouble with your smb.conf there is a #samba channel
[09:46] <hawking> I want to run a shell script of mine every startup how can i do it?
[09:46] <dtrostis> how do you update form the hoary to the breezy?
[09:47] <dtrostis> from
[09:47] <NoUse> !breezy
[09:47] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:47] <dtrostis> thanks ubotu
[09:47] <vortek> i just reinstalled the ap it works
[09:47] <vortek> i use debian sID lol but for my laptops i use ubuntu h0h0
[09:47] <vortek> :)
[09:47] <HappyFool> hawking: easiest way (but probably not the best) is to call it from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[09:47] <pizux> ok michael_fc4linux
[09:47] <NoUse> dtrostis ubotu is a bot ;-)
[09:47] <vortek> all your laptops are belong to ubuntu
[09:47] <pizux> cant connect with u
[09:47] <hawking> HappyFool: will it work if I put it in the folder init.d?
[09:48] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: did it work?
[09:48] <Madpilot> vortek: all your computers, period :P
[09:48] <dtrostis> anyway thank it :)
[09:49] <HappyFool> hawking: what do you mean by 'work' ?
[09:49] <ubuntu> buenos dias , esto es un aprueba
[09:49] <pizux> wait
[09:49] <Rawplayer> re
[09:49] <HappyFool> hawking: scripts in init.d are not all called automatically -- they need to be setup to be invoked
[09:49] <NoUse> good ubotu
[09:49] <nalioth> ubuntu: ingles acqi, espaol en #ubuntu-es, por favor :)
[09:50] <michael_fc4linux> hola, ubuntu. no muy muchas personas hablan espaol aqu
[09:50] <hawking> happyfool: so is bootmisc.sh called automatically at every startup?
[09:50] <dtrostis> ok, now I have to make sure that I can access form my windows computer to my linux box
[09:50] <HappyFool> hawking: indeed
[09:50] <ubuntu> ok, gracias un saludo.
[09:51] <michael_fc4linux> adios ubuntu
[09:51] <vortek> is breezy stable ?
[09:51] <cyphase> yes
[09:52] <cyphase> is dapper going to have a GUI CUPS config utility?
[09:52] <jtd> hi guys.  can someone tell me where to look for drivers for my D-Link DWL-G650 wifi-G wireless card?
[09:52] <jtd> Google doesn't seem to know what I'm talking about.
[09:53] <foxiness> the installer ask me kernel to install : linux-386 or linux-image-368 or linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 , i dont know the diff i do some search on google and on ubunu.com and ubuntufourm,org but nothing ... i can not find info to help me
[09:53] <HappyFool> foxiness: install linux-386
[09:53] <nalioth> michael_fc4linux: ubuntu may need help joining #ubuntu-es
[09:53] <cyphase> yea
[09:53] <cyphase> what he said
[09:53] <cyphase> i was going to say that
[09:53] <cyphase> :)
[09:53] <hawking> HappyFool : so will any problems happen if I put a small command in bootmisc.sh?
[09:53] <frogzoo> jtd, google "g650 ubuntu" ?
[09:54] <jtd> I googled "d-link dwl-g650 linux"
[09:54] <HappyFool> hawking: the only problem i foresee is that you might have some issues when upgrading to ubuntu 6.04
[09:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jtd about wirelss
[09:54] <vortek> jtd google with out dling
[09:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jtd about wireless
[09:54] <vortek> jtd: google for DWL-G650
[09:54] <foxiness> HappyFool, thank you :)
[09:54] <vortek> jtd: google for DWL-G650 linux drivers
[09:54] <HappyFool> hawking: but that is next year's problem ;)
[09:54] <hawking> HappyFool: so I'll create a backup bootmisc.sh and change it with it before upgrade :)
[09:54] <vortek> or difereing key words that wiill work
[09:54] <hawking> Happyfool : yeah :)
[09:55] <vortek> or ubuntu
[09:55] <vortek> ubotu wireless
[09:55] <ubotu> wireless is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:55] <frogzoo> jtd, try my search - or this post http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=374739
[09:55] <nalioth> vortek:  ahem ^^^
[09:55] <jtd> thanks guys.
[09:55] <foxiness> its not new but if dont read it before "To be honest I dont want Ubuntu Server" http://news.zdnet.com/5208-3513-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=13824&messageID=277474&start=192
[09:56] <steven> where is the default download location for apt packages?
[09:57] <frogzoo> jtd, also, this might help http://shadyq80.kuwaitblogs.com/2005/08/20/d-link-dwl-g650-on-ubuntu-ppc/
[09:57] <mloskot> I use amd64 and how to know some packages are for 32 bits and goes i.e. to /usr/lib32?
[09:57] <Madpilot> steven: archive.ubuntu.com
[09:58] <mloskot> I haven't installed any packages there but I see I have many files in the /usr/lib32. who installed them? ;-))
[09:58] <michael_fc4linux> nalioth: don't know where he went... tried dcc him no response
[09:58] <michael_fc4linux> hes not in ubuntu-es either
[09:59] <foxiness> any one have idea about tango + humanicon
[09:59] <mloskot> I need libXxf86vm.so.1 but x32 version for skype, so where can I find it?
[09:59] <nalioth> mloskot: the system put them there. YOUR tree is /usr/local/
[10:00] <mloskot> nalioth: ok, but I have no x32 repos in the sources.list so I don't install x32 packages on my own, so now I need  libXxf86vm.so.1 for 32 bits and should I add 32 bits repos to sources.list or what?
[10:00] <mloskot> I need to run linux32 ./skype
[10:02] <feugan3333> Hi all. My system is really slow to boot Ubuntu. As far as I can tell it tries to update the time via ntp before initializing my pppoe link. Is there a way to fix this?
[10:03] <steven> I used "Add Applications" to add real player.  After doing so, it wants to know where the pkg is located.  I haven't changed any of the defaults, so where should it be located?
[10:03] <NoUse> feugan3333 you running breezy?
[10:03] <nalioth> mloskot: visit packages.ubuntu.com and download it directly
[10:03] <foxiness> feugan3333, use bum boot up manager to disable the ntp
[10:03] <feugan3333> NoUse: Yes
[10:03] <NoUse> feugan3333 use boot up manager and you can change the priority of ntp and/or pppoe
[10:03] <mloskot> nalioth: do you mean to download 32 bit version?
[10:04] <pizux> ok michael_fc4linux
[10:04] <pizux> the probleme seems to be from my modem
[10:04] <pizux> is a voip one
[10:05] <mloskot> nalioth: (simply, I need 32 bit version, but if I have some /usr/lib32 files then I suppose some of 32 bit packages are installed behind the scene, automatically, so I suppose also  libXxf86vm.so.1 will be installed that way)
[10:05] <nalioth> mloskot: if you are running amd64 arch, your apt will only get the binaries for it, you can d/l the pkgs you need directly from packages.ubuntu.com
[10:05] <ilia> Hi. Can somebody help me? Where can I find the sources for packages.ubuntu.com? I need to generate my own packages.ubuntu.com-like page for my Debian/Kubuntu based distribution.
[10:05] <mloskot> nalioth: yes, I understand it
[10:05] <mloskot> nalioth: thanks
[10:05] <nalioth> mloskot: np
[10:05] <feugan3333> This must be a silly question: Where is boot up manager?
[10:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell feugan3333 about bum
[10:06] <Arafangion> ubotu: tell me about bum
[10:06] <foxiness> i love this ubotu :)
[10:06] <frogzoo> bum doesn't appear to be available on hoary
[10:07] <shutdownrunner> ilia:there's an email address at packages.ubuntu.com. Contact Frank Lichtenheld and ask him to send you this script
[10:07] <Arafangion> I guess bum is a graphic for grub
[10:07] <ilia> shutdownrunner: thanks
[10:07] <feugan3333> Thanks guys
[10:07] <frogzoo> to me, sounds like bum is a gui for managing rc scripts?
[10:07] <foxiness> nalioth, does service work if you disable npt ? its not work with me ?
[10:07] <mustard5> bum in breezy is System>>Adminstration>>Services
[10:07] <nalioth> foxiness: your clock won't be accurate
[10:08] <flamey> hi all, quick question: is GNOME faster then KDE?
[10:08] <foxiness> nalioth, it take long time to boot than :) am dailup user
[10:08] <mustard5> flamey, heh
[10:08] <frogzoo> the trick is to move ntp startup to after where pppoe is started
[10:08] <foxiness> flamey, no
[10:09] <Arafangion> flamey: Sometimes.
[10:09] <mustard5> flamey, that might be open to interpretation :)
[10:09] <mloskot> nalioth: sorry, but I'm Ubuntu does not allow me to install i386 packages on amd64, any solution :-(
[10:09] <flamey> lol.... lots of different answeres here
[10:09] <nalioth> mloskot: visit packages.ubuntu.com and get it
[10:09] <mloskot> I have it.
[10:09] <mustard5> flamey, I've only used gnome myself
[10:10] <fatehaze> Anyone know how I might get procmail to automatically delete spam inboxes every week?
[10:10] <Arafangion> flamey: It used to *definetly* be faster, but now G++ has been sped up alot, as well as the linker. C++ so's used to be quiet slow to link.
[10:10] <mloskot> I downloaded *.deb files for i386 and I have it
[10:10] <fatehaze> Can I do that with a recipe?
[10:10] <mloskot> nalioth: please, take a look: http://rafb.net/paste/results/k0paVe42.html
[10:10] <foxiness> flamey, no on speed of run app but its fast to find what you want and get your work done on simple way
[10:10] <flamey> aaah...tnx for the info
[10:10] <mloskot> nalioth: I'm getting "package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)" message :-(
[10:10] <Arafangion> Hmm.
[10:11] <mustard5> mloskot, I would think that brings that package installation to a grinding halt
[10:11] <mloskot> nalioth: I suppose there are special packages with i386 libraries but prepared to be installed on amd64, to use them with linux32.
[10:11] <nalioth> mloskot: have apt build them from source
[10:11] <foxiness> time to go
[10:12] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: you have a voip router deal?
[10:12] <Arafangion> Can ubuntu installer scripts handle *one* partition? ie, no swap, etc?
[10:12] <pizux> yep
[10:12] <Arafangion> pizux: Excellent.
[10:12] <pizux> michael_fc4linux, is it big shit?
[10:12] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: same concept...
[10:12] <mloskot> nalioth: yes, but if I will build libxxf86vm1_7.0.0-2_i386.deb poackage on amd64 will it be installed to /usr/lib32 to work with linux32?
[10:13] <pizux> ?
[10:13] <pizux> as?
[10:13] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: as a router
[10:13] <Arafangion> Actually, looks like I can modify the partitions. (THe "recovery" partition is worrying me)
[10:13] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: if you are using one of those vonage voip routers.. its the same ..
[10:14] <Arafangion> Does ubuntu use LVM?
[10:14] <Arafangion> How does the installer set up LVM?
[10:14] <nalioth> mloskot: it'll install wherever it's supposed to
[10:14] <nalioth> Arafangion: it can
[10:14] <vortek> man this java is not working right takes for ever for an applet to load lol
[10:14] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: what i think is happening is that your ddclient perl script is grabbing your "local" ip address ie: 192.168.x.x
[10:14] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: its then sending that to dyndns
[10:14] <mloskot> nalioth: it won;t work that way, sorry, there must be some hack I think.
[10:14] <Arafangion> nalioth: Does it put LVM tools into an initrd, or does it make a typical root partition, where all _other_ partitions are handled via LVM?
[10:14] <mloskot> nalioth: ok, thanks
[10:15] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: you don't want that... to get around that you need to tell ddclient to grab your ip address from some 3rd party service.. or website
[10:15] <nalioth> Arafangion: i have no clue how it works, i just know it's supported and built into the installer for your use
[10:15] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: because ddclient is asking for your ip address from your network interface which is a local address
[10:15] <nalioth> mloskot: i have deduced from being in here that amd64 arch is a pita for non scientific humans
[10:15] <Arafangion> nalioth: This laptop has three partitions: RECOVERY; C:; D:
[10:15] <pizux> ok so what can i do?
[10:16] <Arafangion> nalioth: I'm thinking of nuking the 'RECOVERY', putting ubuntu into it. It's 1.82 Gig.
[10:16] <mloskot> nalioth: so?
[10:16] <Arafangion> nalioth: And making D: the 'home'.
[10:16] <mloskot> nalioth: what debs having to do with science, I don't get it :-)
[10:16] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: ddclient seems to be pretty simple.. try searching for a different client that has a feature so you can "grab" your ip address from dyndns website
[10:16] <Arafangion> nalioth: Actually will resize it slightly so that I have a swap partition, but other than that...
[10:17] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: do you understand the concept? I'm really trying here
[10:17] <pizux> ok am a newb so ity isnt easy
[10:17] <nalioth> mloskot: amd64 doesnt support flash, divx, etc very well if at all (for entertainment purposes)
[10:17] <pizux> thx u very much
[10:17] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: no problemo
[10:17] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: i really want to help ya...
[10:17] <frogzoo> any tips for doing an install to raid?
[10:17] <nalioth> Arafangion: so where does LVM come into that plan?
[10:17] <feugan3333> Is it safe to delete a lock file if there is no process using it (eg /var/lock/bum)?
[10:17] <mloskot> nalith: I really hate flash, I have it uninstalled on all my Windows boxes, this is a crap, it eats all CPU time, ble.
[10:18] <Arafangion> nalioth: Incase I need to move things around.
[10:18] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: a while back when I was trying to get dyndns to work... i had to go through all this crap
[10:18] <mloskot> nalioth: I don't watch movies on computer, it's a crap, I do to cinema where you have big screen ;-)
[10:18] <mustard5> feugan3333, if you are sure it's erroneous
[10:18] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: search for a new client.. not ddclient
[10:18] <mloskot> nalioth: sorry, s/nalith/nalioth/
[10:18] <mloskot> above
[10:18] <nalioth> mloskot: then look at what i /noticed to you about dpkg
[10:18] <hawking> does anyone use ktemperature here?
[10:19] <fatehaze> If I had money to go to the movies I wouldn't be using a free OS ;)
[10:19] <Toma-> when is the spca5xx webcam fix going to be officially released?
[10:19] <feugan3333> mustard5: ok thanks
[10:19] <mloskot> nalioth: but that doesn't change it I'm a lame about all those deb/amd/i386 organization, I have to learn, that's obvious.
[10:20] <frogzoo> fatehaze, I have money to go to movies, run a free OS because it's superior :p
[10:20] <mloskot> Toma: what fix you mean?
[10:20] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: http://www.dyndns.com/support/clients/unix.html
[10:20] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: there used to be more unix clients... but i guess there are only two on the dyndns website now
[10:21] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: I couldn't find any information about the ez-ipupdate client but maybe that has that feature
[10:21] <pizux> ok so i have to compile it
[10:21] <Toma-> it hangs when you try to use it. someone figured it had been complied with gcc3.4 instead of 4.0.... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75284&highlight=webcam
[10:21] <michael_fc4linux> thats not that hard
[10:21] <michael_fc4linux> tar -xvzf
[10:21] <frogzoo> raid - any tips for a fresh install?
[10:21] <michael_fc4linux> cd ez-ip......
[10:21] <pizux> it s ok for thaht
[10:21] <michael_fc4linux> ./configure
[10:21] <michael_fc4linux> make install
[10:22] <michael_fc4linux> "should be anyway"
[10:22] <cyphase> lol, i only just now checked if ubuntu included an podcast client
[10:22] <cyphase> ipodder
[10:23] <cyphase> it didn't in warty and hoary..
[10:23] <wickedpuppy> michael_fc4linux, you forgot make ...
[10:23] <wickedpuppy> :P
[10:23] <cyphase> a podcast*
[10:23] <michael_fc4linux> oops
[10:23] <mloskot> Toma-: Yes, you're right, but as described here, simply use gcc 3.4
[10:23] <mloskot> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83774
[10:24] <david__> hello: how can i acces fonts:/// to install a TrueType font?
[10:24] <michael_fc4linux> nobody take my advice please
[10:24] <michael_fc4linux> haha
[10:24] <nalioth> michael_fc4linux: dont do that, please
[10:24] <flamey> what clients do u all use to watch movies and to play mp3s--- hope this doesnt cause a flood :)
[10:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell michael_fc4linux about checkinstall
[10:24] <hawking> I have a program called gkrellm that shows information about the current situation of my laptop..I want to start it every startup and I want it to appear just on the screen not on the panel is this possible?
[10:24] <mustard5> flamey, totem-xine for movies and xmms or totem-xine for mp3s
[10:25] <nalioth> hawking: of course. go to System > preferences > sessions and make it so
[10:25] <mustard5> flamey, others might say mplayer
[10:26] <mustard5> flamey, or amarok for mp3s
[10:26] <mustard5> flamey or vlc
[10:26] <mustard5> :)
[10:26] <flamey> cause i'm trying out amarok at the mo
[10:26] <smi|e> ello
[10:26] <flamey> :) tbx mustard5
[10:26] <hawking> nalioth: and how can i make it not appear in the panel below?
[10:26] <vbgunz> Anyone here use the Meld program?
[10:26] <Arafangion> How big does the root partition need to be? What's the typical size?  Just the /bin, /sbin, and the like, I'm sticking /usr somewhere else.
[10:27] <Arafangion> Also sticking /opt somewhere else.
[10:27] <smi|e> hawking: make "what" not apear?
[10:27] <hawking> smile: a program: gkrellm
[10:27] <nalioth> hawking: put the command line to start it without a window in the sessions thing
[10:27] <smi|e> hawking: remove it
[10:27] <michael_fc4linux> pizux: hope it works out for you
[10:27] <michael_fc4linux> goodnight/ morning everyone... I am leaving
[10:27] <hawking> nalioth: how?
[10:27] <mustard5> cya michael_fc4linux
[10:27] <michael_fc4linux> nalioth: thanks for the checkintall
[10:27] <smi|e> hawking: just remove it
[10:28] <hawking> smi|e: but then I'll have to remove it every startup
[10:28] <nalioth> michael_fc4linux: yes, please recommend that over "make install" it helps greatly for system maintenance
[10:28] <mustard5> hawking system>>sessions
[10:28] <hawking> smi|e: there should be a shorter way
[10:28] <michael_fc4linux> i can see how it would!
[10:28] <mustard5> hawking system>>preferences>>sessions
[10:28] <smi|e> hawking: i mean remove it from your system
[10:28] <michael_fc4linux> bye
[10:28] <hawking> mustard5 : then?
[10:30] <mustard5> hawking, ummm..I reckon startup programs?  I'm thinking anyway
[10:30] <hawking> smi|e : how can i remove it from system?
[10:30] <ilia> #join modxcms
[10:30] <bungle> erver irc.set-top.net
[10:30] <bungle> :S
[10:30] <bungle> sorry
[10:30] <smi|e> hawking: sudo apt-get remove filename
[10:30] <hawking> mustard5 : what I want to do is run it everystartup and without anything about it appearing on the panel below
[10:31] <hawking> smi|e: ???
[10:31] <robotgeek> hawking: are you trying to make gkrellm not show up in the panel, but still run it?
[10:31] <hawking> robotgeek: exactly
[10:31] <smi|e> hawking: why?
[10:31] <smi|e> just leave it
[10:32] <bluefrog-10> what is the comman line to find the size of a partition pls?
[10:32] <robotgeek> hawking: you might need devilspie, apt-get install it, and configure it appropriately
[10:32] <robotgeek> bluefrog-10: df -kh
[10:32] <bluefrog-10> ty
[10:32] <Arafangion> Here I go, installing ubuntu :)
[10:32] <smi|e> Arafangion: need any support, just say :)
[10:32] <Arafangion> 9.5 gig root, 11 gig home :)
[10:33] <Arafangion> smi|e: Will do :) First time I've installed ubuntu, it's usually Debian Stable.
[10:33] <robotgeek> Arafangion: oh, that's old :) but really stable!
[10:33] <mustard5> hawking, is it an applet on your bottom panel?
[10:33] <smi|e> Arafangion: it's quite easy
[10:34] <Arafangion> smi|e: I have been *very* impressed with the ubuntu live-cd, except I'd like it to be more extreme with it's power saving features.
[10:34] <vortek> .bye
[10:34] <Arafangion> smi|e: Doesn't appear to go to standby or hibernation at all.
[10:34] <smi|e> Arafangion: why'd you need that?
[10:34] <smi|e> Arafangion: it works with my laptop
[10:34] <hawking> mustard5: yes
[10:34] <Arafangion> smi|e: Excellent, hopefully it will with mine.
[10:35] <smi|e> yup
[10:35] <Tokenizer> how do i make ubuntu show the boot sequences and events as it's starting up.. ie a black screen similar to startx however doesn't require the login:startx
[10:35] <hawking> mustard5: just like any other program you run... like firefox or smth when you minimize it goes below to panel
[10:35] <hawking> hawking : and for gkrellm I don't want it to show there
[10:35] <hawking> robotgeek: I installed it but when I try to run I get an error :---> WARNING **: Could not load theme: '/home/alip/.devilspie.xml'
[10:35] <mustard5> hawking ah ok...
[10:35] <hawking> mustard5: you know a way for that?
[10:36] <mustard5> hawking not off the top of my head
[10:36] <robotgeek> hawking: one sec, lemme pull up mine
[10:36] <hawking> robotgeek: ok
[10:36] <Arafangion> smi|e: What laptop do you have?
[10:36] <smi|e> Arafangion: sony vaio K PCG-K315m
[10:37] <tekeo> hello I got a problem because I can play wmw files but not mp3 files...
[10:37] <Xyc0> How do you verify if your memory is being used as dual channel?
[10:37] <Arafangion> smile: Mine's Asus V6V
[10:37] <mustard5> tekeo, what player you using?
[10:37] <mustard5> tekeo, totem?
[10:37] <tekeo> rhytmbox
[10:38] <tekeo> and totem
[10:38] <mustard5> tekeo, and another question, are you on breezy?
[10:38] <tekeo> yes
[10:38] <Xyc0> !restricted
[10:38] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[10:38] <robotgeek> hawking: here's  mine http://omega.uta.edu/~vxv9866/linux/devilspie.xml
[10:38] <Arafangion> Hmm, installation cannot use my wireless.
[10:38] <Xyc0> tekeo: Look at the link for restricted formats above
[10:38] <mustard5> tekeo being on breezy you have a System>>Help in your menu..got to the ubuntu starters guide, look under applications and then look for Music and Videos
[10:39] <Xyc0> mustard5: he is working with WMA, those are restricted formats
[10:39] <mustard5> tekeo, full instructions are in there
[10:40] <mustard5> Xyco, full instructions for playing mp3s are in the System>>Help  under ubuntu starters guide
[10:40] <robotgeek> hawking: modify the example for gnome calculator there, see if you like my settings. else get rid of them!
[10:40] <tekeo> I'm not willing to pay to listen to mp3
[10:40] <Xyc0> tekeo: you dont need to buy anything...
[10:40] <wickedpuppy> tekeo, then read the instructions ... no need to pay
[10:40] <mustard5> tekeo, there is no money to pay, just follow the instructions
[10:41] <Xyc0> Wow never buy anything in linux unless it is for gaming or tech support
[10:41] <davro> ogg is the way forward, not mp3
[10:42] <Arafangion> davro: vorbis, you mean? :)
[10:42] <tekeo> where do I add the backports?
[10:42] <davro> .ogg
[10:42] <mustard5> tekeo there are no backports in breezy yet
[10:42] <Arafangion> davro: That's just a container format, kinda like .tar
[10:43] <tekeo> ok...
[10:43] <tekeo> how new is breezy?
[10:43] <hawking> I have a small memory stick of my mobile phone...does any of you know how I can mount it?
[10:43] <Arafangion> tekeo: Very new.
[10:43] <mustard5> tekeo less than a month
[10:43] <tekeo> ok
[10:43] <tekeo> installed it yesterday so
[10:43] <davro> Ogg Vorbis is a completely open, patent-free, professional audio encoding and streaming technology
[10:43] <Arafangion> hawking: Plug it in.
[10:43] <eli> <<----- feels the freedom of linux
[10:43] <jrsims> any screens of Dapper yet?
[10:43] <hawking> Arafangion: already did
[10:44] <Xyc0> How do you verify if your computer is using your memory as dual channel?
[10:44] <Arafangion> davro: Yes, notice the use of "Ogg" *and* "Vorbis"?
[10:44] <mustard5> tekeo, that's ok ..the starters guide should help you get some basic stuff going...come back here for any other problems
[10:44] <Arafangion> Xyc0: That's a hardware thing.
[10:44] <hawking> Arafangion: any ideas on how to mount it?
[10:44] <Xyc0> Arafangion: unless ubuntu has a way to check
[10:45] <Arafangion> Xyc0: If you're lucky, there may be something in /proc
[10:45] <lsuactiafner> hawking : plug it in, wait a few seconds.. then run dmesg till you get information about the device, should tell you what /dev its called
[10:45] <lsuactiafner> then mount /dev/sdc1 -t vfat /mnt/mount_point
[10:45] <Xyc0> Arafangion: Know of a hardware channel on freenode?
[10:45] <davro> totally understand that ! .mpg or .ogg prefix's
[10:45] <lsuactiafner> mine is vfat and sdc1
[10:46] <vortek> is there a way to get ksynaptics running with out actualy installing kde ?
[10:46] <vortek> !java
[10:46] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[10:46] <HappyFool> vortek: since it problems requires basic kde/qt libs, one imagines not
[10:46] <HappyFool> probably
[10:47] <vortek> bummer
[10:47] <vortek> theres no gnome one
[10:47] <HappyFool> vortek: synaptic ?
[10:47] <vortek> the touch pad
[10:47] <cyphase> Rhythmbox/Banshee should have a podcast client..
[10:47] <HappyFool> oh, sorry
[10:47] <vortek> not the apt front end
[10:47] <vortek> man this java is crashing all of gnome
[10:47] <vortek> lol
[10:47] <Arafangion> vortek: You could just run it...  Generally speaking kde apps will start all the background stuff automatically. YOu don't need the Desktop Environment to run.
[10:47] <vortek> it didn't install any binary acording to dpkg -L
[10:47] <vortek> the ksyn program
[10:47] <tekeo> well I can't find the gstreamer files that are supposed to be installed
[10:48] <tekeo> I find some but far from all...
[10:48] <mustard5> tekeo, did you do that Add Repositories first?
[10:48] <mustard5> tekeo the very first instruction
[10:48] <tekeo> no...
[10:48] <tekeo> sorry m8
[10:48] <mustard5> tekeo thats ok :)
[10:48] <mustard5> tekeo ask any question you like :)
[10:49] <hawking> lsuactiafner: unfortunately I get no change in dmesg :/
[10:49] <vortek> this is odd
[10:49] <lsuactiafner> hacking : usb connection?
[10:49] <vortek> and java keeps crashing the web browser lol
[10:50] <hawking> lsuactiafner: no not usb.. there is a slot in my laptop in which I put the memory stick
[10:50] <Arafangion> vortek: Sounds like you actually like linux being unstable. YOu append 'lol' to the end of everything you say.
[10:50] <edlyncutie10> hello any xaters
[10:50] <edlyncutie10> ??????????????///
[10:50] <Arafangion> hawking: Not yet compatible with linux.
[10:50] <Arafangion> hawking: What brand?
[10:50] <hawking> Arafangion : that's sad /
[10:51] <hawking> Arafangion : sony I guess
[10:51] <edlyncutie10> hahahaha
[10:51] <MasterYuri> how can I install ati drivers?
[10:51] <Arafangion> hawking: The brand of laptop is generally embedded into the laptop. It's hard to be uncertain!
[10:51] <davro> Sony Memory Stick works fine here straight out of ta box breezy
[10:51] <vortek> vortek nah I just find glitches and or bugs funny
[10:51] <hawking> Arafangion: the brand of laptop is asus
[10:51] <Arafangion> hawking: Heck, the brand is *part of the screen* on my laptop.
[10:52] <Arafangion> hawking: I too have an Asus V6V
[10:52] <vortek> er Arafangion  i find glitches funny is all
[10:52] <hawking> Arafangion: I was unsure about the brand of memory stick
[10:52] <Arafangion> hawking: Just installing ubuntu on it.
[10:52] <Arafangion> hawking: Appears to be a Ricoh
[10:52] <Arafangion> hawking: Anyway, that's the only part that is incompatible with linux, afaik.
[10:52] <hawking> Arafangion: is infrared compatible with linux?
[10:52] <Arafangion> hawking: And I have a (tiny) usb adapter for my cards, anyway ;)
[10:52] <Arafangion> hawking: I believe so.
[10:52] <vortek> ubotu java
[10:52] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[10:52] <vortek> !javaweb
[10:52] <ubotu> Not a clue, vortek
[10:52] <Arafangion> hawking: Will have to check, but I'm pretty sure that it is.
[10:53] <hawking> Arafangion: trying now
[10:53] <vortek> !javadeb
[10:53] <ubotu> well, javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[10:53] <Arafangion> hawking: I've never used infra.
[10:53] <hawking> Arafangion: well me too but my brother wants to put some music in his mobile phone :p
[10:53] <Arafangion> hawking: Would be quite interesting if I can get it to sync with my friend's palm :)
[10:53] <edlyncutie10> any xaters???????////
[10:53] <hawking> Arafangion: yeah :)
[10:53] <edlyncutie10> hi
[10:54] <Arafangion> hawking: Does he have bluetooth?
[10:54] <davro> hawking: can't you use bluetooth to transfer to the phone ?
[10:54] <tekeo> can't find libaries multiverse...
[10:54] <hawking> Arafangion: hmm the phone has bluetooth
[10:54] <Arafangion> My phone has neither bluetooth nor infra :)
[10:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tekeo about repos
[10:54] <hawking> Arafangion: and does the laptop has bluetooth support?
[10:54] <Arafangion> hawking: Yes.
[10:55] <mustard5> tekeo check the PM from ubotu
[10:55] <Arafangion> hawking: I think it treats it as a network interface.
[10:55] <hawking> Arafangion: how can i turn on bluetooth?
[10:55] <Arafangion> hawking: See those buttons on the top-left?
[10:55] <hawking> Arafangion: you mean applications,places and system?
[10:55] <mustard5> tekeo, see if the wiki guide is easier for you
[10:55] <Arafangion> hawking: What type of laptop is it?
[10:55] <tekeo> # Example sources.list for Ubuntu hoary, not supposed to add these right?
[10:56] <mustard5> tekeo not on breezy no
[10:56] <hawking> arafangion : oh I thought you were talkin about screen
[10:56] <mustard5> tekeo just use breezy one
[10:56] <hawking> arafangion: it is a a3500e
[10:56] <mustard5> tekeo or try source-o-matic
[10:56] <hawking> arafangion: you mean buttons on the top-left of the keyboarD?
[10:57] <Arafangion> hawking: Just above the keyboard, on the left.
[10:57] <hawking> arafangion : yes I have 4 buttons plus the power on/off button there
[10:57] <nnonix> Can anyone tell me how I would go about adding another item to the nautilus right-click menus?
[10:57] <mustard5> tekeo if you are really haveing trouble I can give you some one on one help in another channel
[10:57] <mustard5> tekeo, its better if you teach yourself though of course ;)
[10:57] <mustard5> tekeo you will remember it then :)
[10:57] <Arafangion> hawking: One of them looks like a very strange 'B' on a dark background.
[10:57] <Tokenizer> fu*k.... my ubuntu installation on other laptop just froze at 72% (openoffice.org-math..) ......... any special keys to press or should i just restart installation\
[10:58] <nalioth> Tokenizer: verify your media
[10:58] <lsuactiafner> hawking : i mount mine via usb.. but
[10:58] <Tokenizer> no.. it might be that i manually set the swap partitions...... might have screwed that up
[10:59] <hawking> arafangion : hmm B? well one seems like the planet saturn the second is an envelope the third is a square with some stuff in it and the other seems like a man(I think you mean this one)
[10:59] <lsuactiafner> hawking : dmesg | grep hd
[10:59] <lsuactiafner> it might list the device under hda or sdc somewhere
[10:59] <Arafangion> hawking: The man does power saving on windows.
[10:59] <Arafangion> hawking: On the live-cd, it just blanks the screen
[11:00] <Arafangion> hawking: I have 5 buttons there, (It's a V6V), a symbol that's supposed to represent the touchpad, with a line through it (enables/disables it), then there's the man, then the bluetooth enable/disable, the "internet" (starts Firefox), and wireless.
[11:00] <ice_1963> better you then me :0)
[11:00] <frogzoo> any suggestions as to how best to sync my /home between my lappie & PC?
[11:01] <Arafangion> frogzoo: I like subversion.
[11:01] <hawking> Arafangion: how can i check if bluetooth is enabled?
[11:01] <Arafangion> hawking: My laptop has status lights on the bottom-left.
[11:01] <lsuactiafner> hawking : check if your cellphone sees the laptop..
[11:02] <frogzoo> Arafangion, I'm looking to autosync stuff like mail - don't think subversion's the answer, I'm thinking some sort of cluster daemon
[11:02] <Arafangion> In all seriousness, all this laptop needs is a SIM card reader, and it'll be complete.
[11:02] <tekeo> am I supposed to add this line?    deb http://www.grawert.net/ubuntu/ warty universe
[11:02] <Arafangion> frogzoo: imap.
[11:02] <hawking> Arafangion: what does your fn+f2 button do?
[11:02] <mustard5> tekeo no
[11:02] <Arafangion> frogzoo: Just use imap
[11:02] <lsuactiafner> hawking : might easy to just mount your disk as its already in the laptop if you would try dmesg | grep hd
[11:02] <Arafangion> hawking: Mine does wireless, but it doesn't work.
[11:02] <frogzoo> my ISP don't support imap, damn their eyes
[11:02] <tekeo> so I just skip that part?
[11:03] <Arafangion> frogzoo: Then setup an imap server.
[11:03] <tekeo> and add no extra repositories
[11:03] <lsuactiafner> frogzoo : scp everything back and forth...
[11:03] <Arafangion> frogzoo: isp's have good reason not to support imap, takes alot of hdd after a while.
[11:03] <mustard5> tekeo come and join #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:03] <tekeo> I'm using ubuntu...
[11:03] <Arafangion> frogzoo: Not even google uses imap.
[11:03] <mustard5> tekeo type /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:03] <Tokenizer> just out of curiosity.. since i don't see a varify token for "cdrecord" ....... any way i could varify burn product againsts an ISO?
[11:03] <mustard5> tekeo its quiet in there ;)
[11:04] <Knoton> Hello everyone, I am trying out Ubuntu Live DVD, I must say I am very impressed :-) The first Live Distro that works on my Laptop from start without any tweaks at all ! :-)
[11:04] <Arafangion> Tokenizer: md5sum on the cd device
[11:04] <Arafangion> Knoton: Never tried knoppix?
[11:04] <frogzoo> Arafangion my "philosophy" behind this, is I want my data to follow me around
[11:04] <Knoton> Yes, doesnt work on my laptop
[11:05] <Arafangion> frogzoo: Then you want imap. No ifs, buts, or whatever. Also look into jabber, for IM
[11:05] <Tokenizer> and question 2: how can i make ubuntu show the boot stuff on a black screen not with the Ubuntu logo (note: please don't get offensive, i luv the logo)
[11:06] <Delvien> its 5 am and i cant sleep, : (
[11:06] <hawking> Arafangion: I read the manual .. I have no bluetooth button there
[11:06] <CrackersKeenan> so... is it work the upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[11:06] <Arafangion> hawking: Does your laptop have bluetooth?
[11:06] <ktogias> Tokenizer, vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:07] <frogzoo> Arafangion, I'm hoping to find a general solution beyond mail, I have other data that I'd like to keep sync'd too...
[11:07] <hawking> Arafangion: well if there was there would be a button like yours
[11:07] <Arafangion> frogzoo: For all file-based stuff, I like subversion.
[11:07] <Arafangion> frogzoo: Possibly use the mozilla suite for compatibility.
[11:07] <johnnybe1ak> frogzoo: i'm not sure this is what you want, I only just started looking at what you said, but have you seen novells iFolder?
[11:07] <frogzoo> Arafangion, what about something like dirsync, or GFS?
[11:07] <hawking> Arafangion: I gotta get infrared working somehow
[11:08] <frogzoo> johnnybe1ak, I'll take a look, thx!
[11:08] <Delvien> shit , what are the w32codecs site
[11:08] <Arafangion> frogzoo: It will be hard to accidently overwrite your changes if you used a real version control system.
[11:08] <Knoton> Does anyone have any idea if it is possible to run Mono and some developmentenvironment for it on a Ubuntu Live session ? I am very curious to check that out and I doesnt have any available computer to set up for it...
[11:08] <Delvien> !restrictedformats
[11:08] <ubotu> from memory, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[11:08] <johnnybe1ak> frogzoo: np :)
[11:09] <Arafangion> DAMN.
[11:09] <ouioui> salut tous
[11:09] <hawking> Arafangion: oh! here what I saw in lspci "[4294732.519000]  Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[11:09] <hawking> " so I have bluetooth
[11:10] <Arafangion> hawking: Mine says that even when the button is 'disabled'.
[11:10] <onkarshinde> Which is best GUI available for cvs (client)?
[11:10] <ouioui> someone can tell me why backport doesn't works
[11:10] <ouioui> ???
[11:10] <Arafangion> hawking: But it may work.
[11:10] <nalioth> ouioui: there are none?
[11:10] <Arafangion> hawking: Give it a go :)
[11:10] <hawking> arafangion: yeah
[11:10] <hawking> arafangion: but how? how can i make it work?
[11:10] <onkarshinde> ouioui: There are none yet for breezy
[11:10] <Arafangion> hawking: Bluetooth has a very short range, btw - slightly longer than IR, but not by much.
[11:11] <Arafangion> Just saw the "updates" for ubuntu, very good.
[11:11] <onkarshinde> Which is best GUI available for cvs (client)?
[11:11] <hawking> arafangion: well right but how can i activate bluetooth?
[11:11] <orzin-IIKAD> Arafangion, actually my mate can walk upto 100metres from his house with a bluetooth connection
[11:11] <ktogias> onkarshinde, the bash command line :P
[11:11] <orzin-IIKAD> with no packet loss at all
[11:11] <onkarshinde> ktogias: I asked for GUI
[11:11] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: Impressive.
[11:11] <ouioui> do you now when they are going to work or where can i get my software
[11:11] <foxiness> how can i use "route" to add getway ?
[11:12] <aeon17x> SMEG only fiddles with your GNOME menus, right? It does nothing with your KDE menu?
[11:13] <orzin-IIKAD> like the afternow proposes, we need an open-source wi-fi internet to get up and going kinda like a p2p network and tor combined where people agree to proxy wifi stuff  around for free...if possible
[11:13] <onkarshinde> ouioui: Whjat software do you need?
[11:13] <onkarshinde> aeon17x: You are right.
[11:13] <Arafangion> DAMN ubuntu is fast!
[11:14] <vortek> is it possible to install the kde desktop and remove the defualt gnome desktop /
[11:14] <orzin-IIKAD> yeah i got rid of windoze straight away, and have been pimping it big time..its easier to use than windows now what a larf
[11:14] <ouioui> every codecs for mp3, divx...multimedia for the moment.
[11:14] <orzin-IIKAD> how come tor conns are banned here?
[11:14] <Arafangion> Evolution is terrific.
[11:14] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: Because it's a common tactic for ban evasion.
[11:14] <ouioui> do you now a list of good sources for breezy and debian
[11:14] <ouioui> ??
[11:14] <orzin-IIKAD> Arafangion, tip: sudo apt-get install tor privoxy
[11:15] <onkarshinde> !tell ouioui about w32codecs
[11:15] <ouioui> yes
[11:15] <orzin-IIKAD> Arafangion, oh wopps you know then
[11:15] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: I don't need privoxy, and networking is problematic as it is. (University)
[11:15] <onkarshinde> !tell ouioui about restricted
[11:16] <orzin-IIKAD> Arafangion, and so how do they expect to bann people on dial ups? or roaming nicks?
[11:16] <Arafangion> Woah, ubuntu does not have many packages.
[11:16] <orzin-IIKAD> seems a bit silly really
[11:16] <orzin-IIKAD> Arafangion, how do you mean
[11:16] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: At ome time the entire telstra was banned, for a short while.
[11:16] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: Doesn't even have nethack!
[11:16] <aeon17x> Arafangion: wait till you enable universe and multiverse.
[11:17] <orzin-IIKAD> yeah? that would have pissed a whole heap of people right orf
[11:17] <Arafangion> aeon17x: Docs?
[11:17] <onkarshinde> Arafangion: You have to enable repositories
[11:17] <Knoton> Will it work to run Ubuntu smoothly on a old Pentium 233 mhz with 512 MB RAM ?
[11:17] <orzin-IIKAD> yah it does
[11:17] <orzin-IIKAD> im with internode
[11:17] <aeon17x> !tell Arafangion about repositories
[11:17] <orzin-IIKAD> and im looking at 4000 odd packages
[11:17] <onkarshinde> Arafangion: Just edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:17] <Arafangion> aeon17x: How come they're not in by default?
[11:17] <nalioth> Knoton: that machine will work fine
[11:17] <orzin-IIKAD> maybe mor actually oh yea now that i look
[11:18] <Knoton> Great, I will have one available soon
[11:18] <orzin-IIKAD> its like 15,000
[11:18] <orzin-IIKAD> Arafangion, i had to edit my sources.list for the internode mirror
[11:18] <hawking> arafangion: I found the command it says the usage is ----> usage: ./bluetooth [action]  [device name] 
[11:18] <hawking>     what should i write to device name?
[11:18] <aeon17x> Arafangion: because they are not officially maintained by the Ubuntu developers.
[11:19] <orzin-IIKAD> aeon17x, thats the one....you have to choose a good mirror
[11:19] <Knoton> Does anyone of you have any experience programing with Mono ?
[11:19] <Arafangion> hawking: I have never used it.
[11:19] <Arafangion> hawking: This is the first laptop with bluetooth I've had.
[11:19] <robotgeek> phew, i read it as "programming with nano"
[11:19] <Arafangion> hawking: And my phone doesn't have it either.
[11:19] <orzin-IIKAD> Arafangion, if your isp is worth its salt it will have a local linux mirror for you to use that wont affect your gb qouta
[11:19] <linukso> Hi fellow ubuntuers! Is it just me or is X much slower in breezy that hoary?
[11:19] <hawking> arafangion: same here
[11:19] <Knoton> No, Mono
[11:20] <aeon17x> onkarshinde: I hope so, I don't want to screw up my KDE menus. >_>
[11:20] <davro> hawking: i had to sudo apt-get install gnome-bluetooth 'using breezy', this package contains tools for managing and manipulating Bluetooth
[11:20] <davro>  devices using the GNOME desktop, like the gnome-obex-server for recieving files
[11:20] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: *university*
[11:20] <aeon17x> linukso: I think it's a bit slower too.
[11:21] <robotgeek> linukso: mine's faster, though you might want to check up on 3-D acceleration stuff
[11:21] <onkarshinde> aeon17x: You won't.
[11:21] <eSPete> how do i make moving windows from one monitor to an other work?
[11:21] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: My home isp allows me to have 10 gig, which is fine.
[11:21] <linukso> robotgeek: I use the nvidia driver...
[11:21] <hawking> davro: I have installed it but what tools are installed? how can i see it?
[11:21] <vortek> man i did every thing in the wiki for the update to breezy and it tells me its already update lol
[11:21] <linukso> robotgeek: and its 2d thats slow...
[11:21] <vortek> its got hoary now not breezy
[11:22] <robotgeek> vortek: maybe u gotta reboot?
[11:22] <Arafangion> I'll never use any other distro for a desktop again!
[11:22] <davro> hawking: to see what stuff isin the the gnome-bluetooth, apt-cache show gnome-bluetooth list all stuff in the pacakge
[11:22] <Arafangion> Though it'll be a long time before I stop using Debian Stable on my servers.
[11:22] <vortek> robotgeek ; lol
[11:22] <orzin-IIKAD> Arafangion, what a bummer
[11:22] <vortek> robotgeek : nah it didn't even download them
[11:22] <aeon17x> Arafangion: have fun and don't break too many things at once. :)
[11:23] <Arafangion> aeon17x: Nah, I won't :)
[11:23] <robotgeek> vortek: after u chanfed repos, did you apt-get update ?
[11:23] <Arafangion> aeon17x: Those days are behind me :)
[11:23] <robotgeek> s/chanfed/changed
[11:23] <linukso> anatole: switching between destops in gnome was a lot faster in hoary...
[11:23] <vortek> yeah i did
[11:23] <Arafangion> aeon17x: Never again will I run Debian sid, then go for 6 months without a single update, then update right in the middle of the whole gcc3/gcc4/Qt mess. :)
[11:23] <orzin-IIKAD> Arafangion, mine gives me 15gb a month, and i just paid to have it raised to 30gb and im going to get a speed change to 24mbit
[11:23] <davro> hawking: In Applications->System Tool u should have a icon 'Bluetooth File Sharing'
[11:24] <Arafangion> hawking: Do you have jabber?
[11:24] <hawking> arafangion: nope
[11:24] <vortek> robotgeek : and when I apt-get dist-upgrade it shows nothing to be upgraded at all every thing is 0 lol and goes back to command
[11:24] <Arafangion> hawking: Pity :)
[11:24] <orzin-IIKAD> Arafangion, and none of that 24mbit/30gb tastiness will be affected by my linux updates or installs
[11:25] <Arafangion> How do I bind a button on the laptop to the "disable synaptics touchpad and just use external mouse?"
[11:25] <orzin-IIKAD> i highly recommend internode, for i know it can be obtained in other states other than south australia
[11:25] <onkarshinde> Which is best GUI for CVS (client)?
[11:25] <robotgeek> vortek: can u change your sources using the automatic generator?
[11:25] <robotgeek> !tell vortek about sources
[11:25] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: Most people don't have more than 256kbit/sec
[11:25] <mikikiki> hi
[11:25] <orzin-IIKAD> man they are getting ripped of
[11:25] <orzin-IIKAD> off
[11:25] <robotgeek> Arafangion: u using proper metacity?
[11:26] <vortek> robotgeek automatic generator / ? I just edit sources.list by hand if thats what you mean
[11:26] <robotgeek> vortek: maybe u need different mirrors, i am not sure!
[11:26] <vortek> its donwloading the package litss and every thing just fine
[11:26] <vortek> yeah its strange
[11:26] <mikikiki> how instal radeon 8500 ?
[11:26] <vortek> I normaly use debian unstable but for my lappy im using ubuntu
[11:26] <highvoltage> !tell highvoltage about source
[11:26] <highvoltage> !tell highvoltage about sources
[11:26] <Arafangion> robotgeek: I'm using defaults.
[11:27] <orzin-IIKAD> Arafangion, im in a genuine state of shock, like hearing that people are paying 25$ for 500ml of water
[11:27] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: You must live in some big US City?
[11:27] <orzin-IIKAD> nah im in adelaide
[11:27] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: Ahh, not middle of NSW, then? :)
[11:27] <orzin-IIKAD> south australia...
[11:27] <robotgeek> Arafangion: okie, you need to edit your keyboard shortcuts (from gconf-editor)..run command 1 etc
[11:27] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: In other words, I live in the middle of NSW
[11:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> orzin-IIKAD: hi :)
[11:27] <Arafangion> robotgeek: Thanks.
[11:28] <onkarshinde> mikikiki: What do you mean exactly?
[11:28] <orzin-IIKAD> wooot you in the middle of ther wooot a farking bummer
[11:28] <mikikiki> drivers for xorg kill my komputer
[11:28] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: Pardon?
[11:28] <orzin-IIKAD> Kamping_Kaiser, elloe elloe elloe
[11:28] <Arafangion> robotgeek: Please explain.
[11:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> I'm in th ehills ;)
[11:28] <orzin-IIKAD> Arafangion, its nots nice being out there in terms of net conns
[11:28] <onkarshinde> !tell mikikiki about ati
[11:29] <orzin-IIKAD> but really good for getting away from the filth of the big city
[11:29] <morphix> heh.
[11:29] <morphix> i am on central coast of nsw.
[11:29] <orzin-IIKAD> Kamping_Kaiser, yeah wot near belair?
[11:29] <robotgeek> Arafangion: you might need a run a script which toggles the connections. (of course, you will have to write it yourself :). you can run that script by assigning it to shortcut
[11:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> orzin-IIKAD: nah, littlehampton, near mount barker
[11:29] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: I actually live in canberra, but my place doesn't have transact.
[11:30] <Arafangion> robotgeek: I actually don't think that x11 has the functionality yet.
[11:30] <orzin-IIKAD> guys, i heard about a bus going round the outback that is deck up to the eyeballs with server gear and wifi transmitters
[11:30] <Arafangion> robotgeek: But I might as well map it to *something*, trick is *how*?
[11:31] <orzin-IIKAD> it is a service like the mobile library...i hpe i picks up
[11:31] <robotgeek> Arafangion: /apps/metacity/key_binding/commands/ in Tools -> Configuration Editor
[11:31] <morphix> orzin-IIKAD where is this bus? i want to hack its wireless :P
[11:31] <jareth_> using abcde, a script for cdparanoia, lame etc. I constantly have problems with CDDB data...
[11:31] <Arafangion> robotgeek: I'd rather it'd work in the console as well.
[11:31] <orzin-IIKAD> not entirly sure, think it might be around alice springs
[11:31] <jareth_> anyone ideas?
[11:32] <Arafangion> robotgeek: I have global_keybindings in there.
[11:32] <robotgeek> Arafangion: hmm, look if your lappy has some kind of a daemon running
[11:32] <orzin-IIKAD> and i found a livecd for clustering dynamically availble network computers....bloooody nuts
[11:32] <Arafangion> robotgeek: Which keybinding is it? :)
[11:32] <Arafangion> robotgeek: I physically know where the key is, but other than that...  No clue.
[11:33] <robotgeek> Arafangion: what laptop are u using?
[11:33] <Arafangion> robotgeek: Asus V6V
[11:33] <vortek> lol the breezy update requires depends on all xorg drivers lol .. Gues im gona have to force dselect to hold em all back but the one i need :)
[11:34] <vortek> i am impressed with the speed of updates though
[11:34] <robotgeek> Arafangion: well, since you are not on PPC, i don't know what the daemon is :)
[11:35] <Arafangion> robotgeek: My ppc broke :( This is the replacement
[11:35] <vortek> ok its not that easy
[11:35] <vortek> lol
[11:35] <orzin-IIKAD> does anyone know of a way to defrag your disks?
[11:35] <Arafangion> robotgeek: How do you go into standby?
[11:35] <robotgeek> Arafangion: broke, that's unheard of!
[11:35] <orzin-IIKAD> Arafangion, try closing the lid
[11:35] <vortek> ok is it possible to force the breezy update not to intsall every single video driver for xorg and only the one I want ?
[11:35] <orzin-IIKAD> Arafangion, it works for me
[11:37] <nagual> what do i need to install to play avi's in ubuntu?
[11:37] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: Nope
[11:37] <nagual> I have totem
[11:37] <nagual> I need to know what codec or other package.  Can play mpgs ok.
[11:37] <robotgeek> nagual: install totem-xine
[11:37] <wickedpuppy> !avi
[11:37] <ubotu> hmm... avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:38] <nalioth> orzin-IIKAD: linux has no fragmentation
[11:38] <Arafangion> Maybe I'll get my LUG to look at it on thursday.
[11:38] <Arafangion> nalioth: Wrong.
[11:38] <nalioth> Arafangion: ok. >%5 fragmentation
[11:38] <orzin-IIKAD> Nalioth, are you suure about hta
[11:39] <Arafangion> nalioth: Wrong :)
[11:39] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: defragmentation is rarely a problem in linux.
[11:39] <wickedpuppy> Arafangion, then how many % ?
[11:39] <orzin-IIKAD> nalioth: yeah heard it has to do with journalling
[11:39] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: I have heard rumours that there is a defrag utility on the net, but most people copy everything up to another HDD, delete it, then copy everything back.
[11:39] <eNiAc> nagual, vlc player plays everything too
[11:39] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: But it's *rare* for it to actually make any difference in the long term, and linux cares about the long term.
[11:40] <orzin-IIKAD> Arafangion, not rumours i have it here right now
[11:40] <nalioth> Arafangion: linux defrags as it writes
[11:40] <nagual> will totem xine appear under the sound & video tab?
[11:40] <Ratzilla> does xine have codecs built in?
[11:40] <Arafangion> nalioth: Not really practical, either.
[11:40] <robotgeek> nagual: it's a backend to totem, so no
[11:40] <Arafangion> nalioth: My guess is that it just allocates better.
[11:40] <mustard5> Ratzilla, no you download them
[11:40] <orzin-IIKAD> nalioth: my impression was that it is a lot like cvs
[11:40] <robotgeek> Ratzilla: not the windows codecs, for them look at the link ubotu tells u
[11:41] <robotgeek> !tell Ratzilla about w32codecs
[11:41] <Arafangion> orzin-IIKAD: What looks alot like cvs?
[11:41] <Ratzilla> robotgeek: thanks :)
[11:43] <orzin-IIKAD> Arafangion, the ext2,ext3 etc. just a quick opinion
[11:43] <orzin-IIKAD> observation, sorry
[11:44] <orzin-IIKAD> is there a way to switch network settings, like have multiple profiles for a local netowkr setup
[11:44] <orzin-IIKAD> proly been asked before, but im a new guy
[11:44] <HappyFool> under system -> admin -> networking, there's a Location listbox at the top
[11:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> orzin-IIKAD: yeh, the Gnome network tool has it
[11:45] <mluna> hi
[11:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[11:45] <orzin-IIKAD> one of the analogies ive been making between windoze and linux is that windows runs and doesn;t always land sure footed
[11:45] <Hhhhh> question: I have a P1 150Mhz 16MB RAM 1.3GB HDD, will ubuntu work in it?
[11:45] <orzin-IIKAD> whereas linux makes sure that each footfall is secure before taking the next step
[11:45] <wickedpuppy> Hhhhh, no X .. yes
[11:45] <HappyFool> Hhhhh: i think 64MB is the minimum
[11:45] <luans> ...
[11:45] <HappyFool> ok, maybe i'm wrong ;)
[11:45] <orzin-IIKAD> no imean have multiple network connections
[11:46] <wickedpuppy> really ? 64 mb ? thats alot ... with no X....
[11:46] <orzin-IIKAD> so i dont have to re-type it all the time
[11:46] <Tomcat_> orzin-IIKAD: Problem with Linux is that if you want to run really fast, you have to build the legs and muscles yourself.
[11:46] <Hhhhh> hmm, ubuntu with X will not work at all or just sluggish?
[11:46] <HappyFool> wickedpuppy: i think that's what i saw when i booted the server edition cd
[11:46] <luans> so this is support?
[11:46] <mloskot> Is there any #ubuntu-dev channel or something for developers (launchpad, bugs, etc.)?
[11:46] <nalioth> luans: support for what?
[11:46] <HappyFool> luans: we'll help if we can
[11:46] <wickedpuppy> HappyFool, whaaa ... 64 mb without X .. btw he says works .. not works well :P
[11:46] <nalioth> mloskot: -devel, iirc
[11:46] <highvoltage> you remind me of marla in fight club "so is this cancer?"
[11:46] <orzin-IIKAD> Tomat_, yah, but with clustering, epescially now with a recent dittro i seen anyone can have a cheap super computer
[11:46] <luans> how to install things from cd
[11:46] <Ratzilla> I've been using linux for about 2 days and I must say I like it a lot better than windows
[11:47] <mloskot> nalioth: thanks ;-), you still there, hehe
[11:47] <HappyFool> wickedpuppy: let me boot the server edition cd quick
[11:47] <Tomcat_> orzin-IIKAD: Sure, but 99% of people don't want a cheap super computer ;)
[11:47] <luans> like starcraft
[11:47] <robotgeek> orzin-IIKAD: rocks-cluster?
[11:47] <Jalexster> I've finally gotten around to installing Breezy. 500+ MB to be downloaded. This is an all-nighter.
[11:47] <wickedpuppy> luans, first what do you want to install ?
[11:47] <Tomcat_> orzin-IIKAD: They want something that reads their thoughts and acts upon it, making possible communication, creativity and free MP3 downloading :o
[11:47] <orzin-IIKAD> tomcat, they wants a pre-digested experience
[11:47] <Tomcat_> orzin-IIKAD: And more.
[11:48] <orzin-IIKAD> robotgeek, ill be right bakc wif da url
[11:48] <vortek> So how much newer are versions of programs in breezy then say debian unstable or testing /
[11:48] <vortek> ?
[11:48] <luans> starcraft
[11:48] <robotgeek> non support talk is welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[11:48] <wickedpuppy> luans, you mean windows programs ?
[11:48] <hamouhzi> o
[11:48] <HappyFool> wickedpuppy: the install screen says 'You must have at least 64 megabytes of RAM to use this Ubuntu installer.'
[11:48] <luans> yerh
[11:48] <rockviech> hi guys
[11:48] <hamouhzi> hello toulmonde
[11:48] <rockviech> have problem with nvidia and opengl
[11:48] <rockviech> when i try to start glxgears
[11:48] <sergio> Hei!!! some body. I installed gcc but is not working
[11:48] <wickedpuppy> HappyFool, to use ubuntu installer .. not to use ubuntu ?
[11:48] <Tomcat_> vortek: A good deal newer than testing, about one month older than unstable.
[11:48] <wickedpuppy> sergio, how what ?
[11:48] <robotgeek> sergio: "not working"
[11:48] <rockviech> i get this error
[11:48] <rockviech> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:48] <rockviech> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[11:48] <sergio> yes
[11:49] <sergio> just is there
[11:49] <hamouhzi> gcc work in linux I think
[11:49] <HappyFool> wickedpuppy: not a clue
[11:49] <wickedpuppy> sergio, really ... what are we to make of the phrase "not working" ?
[11:49] <vortek> Tomcat_ : sweet .
[11:49] <robotgeek> rockviech: sudo dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg, enable glx module
[11:49] <vortek> Tomcat_ : accept in breezy there stable im assuming
[11:49] <luans> wickedpuppy, ?
[11:49] <HappyFool> sergio: install 'build-essential' to get a basic build environment
[11:49] <wickedpuppy> luans, you mean windows programs ?
[11:49] <Tomcat_> vortek: Please rephrase that... don't understand :)
[11:49] <luans> wickedpuppy, yerh
[11:50] <wickedpuppy> luans, you need wine or winx ... try crossover or cedega
[11:50] <wickedpuppy> google them pls
[11:50] <luans> wickedpuppy, wher?
[11:50] <sergio> I try install AMSN by using gcc so cames message the gcc is not installed in your system
[11:50] <rockviech> robotgeek, this command doesnt work
[11:50] <wickedpuppy> luans, wine is in repo ... enable uni and multi
[11:50] <Tomcat_> sergio: Install the build-essential package.
[11:50] <sergio> OK
[11:50] <Tomcat_> sergio: It installs GCC too.
[11:50] <luans> wickedpuppy, ok...
[11:50] <orzin-IIKAD> clustering: her it is: http://bofh.be/clusterknoppix/
[11:51] <mluna> i have a doubt
[11:51] <sergio> It is already installed
[11:51] <orzin-IIKAD> and: http://pareto.uab.es/mcreel/ParallelKnoppix/
[11:51] <vortek> Tomcat_: so im assuming breezies programs are STABLE compared to debians unstable tree of packages .
[11:51] <xukun> how can I unload snd-usb-audio driver?
[11:51] <vortek> tomcat_; :)
[11:51] <robotgeek> rockviech: 'sudo dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg', and in the configuration, enable glx in modules
[11:51] <SAM_theman> Welocome your new ubuntu user people :D
[11:51] <mluna> it is about digital signs
[11:51] <sergio> I found program into /usr/bin
[11:51] <HappyFool> amsn is in the repositories, no need to build it
[11:51] <robotgeek> rockviech: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', and in the configuration, enable glx in modules
[11:51] <wickedpuppy> sergio, write helloworld.c ... compile it and show us the whole thing on pastebin
[11:51] <orzin-IIKAD> PlumpOS: PlumpOS is the successor to clump/os. It is a mini Linux distro aimed at being an easy way to add nodes to an openMosix cluster without much work (or thought).
[11:51] <frogzoo> xukun, rmmod ?
[11:51] <orzin-IIKAD> http://plumpos.sourceforge.net/
[11:51] <orzin-IIKAD> thats what i found without much effort
[11:51] <mluna> is anyone here translating for ubuntu?
[11:51] <Tomcat_> vortek: No, breezy's programs are a direct fork of debian's unstable. It is in the same way stable or unstable.
[11:51] <Jalexster> Well, I'm gonna close X-Chat to, I dunno, pointlessly try to speed up the Breezy upgrade.
[11:52] <Jalexster> Bye guys
[11:52] <mluna> bye
[11:52] <aeon17x> Jalexster: good luck.
[11:52] <vortek> tomcat_ ahh
[11:52] <lee> I'm about to apt-get dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy, I've already downloaded everything (apt-get -d dist-upgrade) which I started last night then interrupted, is there a way to make apt-get verify everything it's downloaded before it starts trying to install all the packages?
[11:52] <nalioth> lee: it will start where it left off
[11:52] <vortek> lee: your fine trust me
[11:53] <Tomcat_> vortek: At least the main repository, universe can be any age.
[11:53] <orzin-IIKAD> nalioth, tdoes the -f attribute help here?
[11:53] <vortek> lee; Ive done debian installs back in the day on dial up on 28.8 hehehe
[11:53] <vortek> tomcat_ : not shure what universe is
[11:53] <nalioth> orzin-IIKAD: -f what?
[11:53] <orzin-IIKAD> nalioth, i mean with interuppted downloads
[11:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vortek about repos
[11:53] <rockviech> its on robotgeek
[11:53] <Tomcat_> vortek: It's a community-supported repository
[11:53] <orzin-IIKAD> apt-get and all that fun stuff
[11:53] <robotgeek> rockviech: cool
[11:53] <rockviech> same error
[11:53] <rockviech> robotgeek
[11:54] <nalioth> orzin-IIKAD: with apt-get you need no flags to restart an install, it'll pick up where it left off
[11:54] <Tomcat_> vortek: So what software and what age it is is decided by the Ubuntu users themselves.
[11:54] <vortek> tomcat_ cool
[11:54] <nalioth> orzin-IIKAD: when you start using non ubuntu sources, the -f may help you, but dont count on it
[11:54] <vortek> Tomcat_ : i must agree ubuntu is nice for newbs
[11:54] <robotgeek> rockviech: uhuh, not an expert on the 3-d stuff, so feel free to ask arounf here
[11:54] <mluna> hi iceman_
[11:54] <mluna> nobody helps me
[11:54] <vortek> Tomcat_ : the stability of debian and ease of use of ubuntu
[11:54] <iceman_> Hi everyone
[11:54] <luans> lol
[11:55] <SAM_theman> umm guys how i log in as root?
[11:55] <Tomcat_> vortek: It can also be good for experts, as long as they don't want to compile everything themselves... :o
[11:55] <mluna> I would like to translate some keys
[11:55] <rockviech> hi, when i try to run glxgears i always get this error here
[11:55] <SAM_theman> i need to turn off ipv6
[11:55] <frogzoo> SAM_theman, su
[11:55] <rockviech> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:55] <rockviech> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[11:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell SAM_theman about root
[11:55] <rockviech> can anybody help me?
[11:55] <orzin-IIKAD> sudo bash
[11:55] <vortek> Tomcat_: well the only problem I have with it right now is the breezy upgrade ... it wanst to install every single video crad driver for xserver-xorg lol
[11:55] <Tomcat_> vortek: I would certainly not call myself an expert, but I have all the possibilities other distros (except Gentoo or RPM) give me.
[11:55] <vortek> Tomcat_ : and i can't put the other drivers on hold or any thing.
[11:55] <Tomcat_> vortek: Oi. Why that?
[11:55] <wickedpuppy> rockviech, your graphics card and if you have installed the drivers pls tell us how .. and if any error tell us
[11:55] <vortek> Tomcat_ : you sound like you know your stuff though
[11:55] <nalioth> orzin-IIKAD: actually, sudo -s works better
[11:55] <mluna> and I need a monitor
[11:55] <Tomcat_> vortek: Well, you can tell apt to download but not install the packages.
[11:55] <vortek> Tomcat_ : oh I just don't want to put all that extra crap on here
[11:55] <iceman_> Anyone got Screenshots of gnome with transparent windows. How transparent can they get ?
[11:56] <ludovic_> Hi All - just converted from BSD :)
[11:56] <vortek> Tomcat_ : how longs that command gona be heheh
[11:56] <rockviech> wickedpuppy, i didnt install any, i used synaptic to install some stuff
[11:56] <rockviech> mom im looking
[11:56] <Tomcat_> ludovic_: Isn't that a step backwards? :D
[11:56] <orzin-IIKAD> nalioth, sweeeeet, nice one.
[11:56] <Tomcat_> vortek: Indeed :)
[11:56] <vortek> iceman_ : transperent windows of what ?
[11:56] <ludovic_> lol - not on the desktop
[11:56] <vortek> Tomcat_ : and in dselect you can't put them on hold
[11:56] <wickedpuppy> rockviech, then you got no driver!!!!!!
[11:56] <elkbuntu> vortek, you can also apt-get clean afterwards
[11:56] <Tomcat_> ludovic_: Yah, probably only for servers :>
[11:57] <vortek> Tomcat_ : its just the problem of dl'n all of that and having it install etc ... but other then that unbuntu is nice
[11:57] <iceman_> vortek thats what i want to know, how far can you got in making transparent windows, apps
[11:57] <rockviech> wickedpuppy, but it worked yesterday!
[11:58] <ludovic_> yeah BSD is great, but wanted a bit more flexability on the desktop and Ubuntu is excacly what i have been looking for :)
[11:58] <wickedpuppy> rockviech, eh ah ...sigh i still don't know what you have and what went wrong ...
[11:58] <orzin-IIKAD> does anyone remembe that tool google had where it would give you the similar serach words to the one you provide
[11:58] <vortek> iceman_ : as far as you want
[11:58] <iceman_> I have been using ubuntu for 3 release.
[11:58] <vortek> iceman_ : its psuedo transperency though
[11:58] <liable> who has actually gotten syslinux to work on a usb stick? anyone?
[11:58] <rockviech> well wickedpuppy, me either ^^
[11:59] <mluna> Please select what kind of key you want:
[11:59] <mluna>    (1) DSA and Elgamal (default)
[11:59] <mluna>    (2) DSA (sign only)
[11:59] <mluna>    (5) RSA (sign only)
[11:59] <mluna> Your selection?
[11:59] <mluna> what do I choose?
[11:59] <wickedpuppy> rockviech, help me .. so i can help you ... what graphics card do you have ?
[11:59] <mluna> I want to translate some keys
[11:59] <Arafangion> mluna: I've never heard of Elgamal, so probably 2
[11:59] <Ratzilla> I just downloaded AC 97 linux codecs...and it comes int  a .tar.bz2 file extension..i've tried using the tar and the bunzip2 command but the tar command does nothing and the bunzip2 command says that its not a bzip2 file.
[11:59] <iceman_> vortex got any sites that give a howto on setting up transparency...
[11:59] <Ratzilla> anyone hae an idea?
[11:59] <Arafangion> mluna: There's only three options, so try them all :)
[11:59] <rockviech> wickedpuppy, nvidia g4ti 4200
[11:59] <mluna> thanks Arafangion
[11:59] <propagandhi> liable: I have various linux installations installed on external USB Hard Disks,  but not syslinux
[11:59] <wickedpuppy> mluna, normally default will do
[11:59] <wickedpuppy> rockviech, then have you installed drivers for the graphics card ?
[12:00] <frogzoo> ok, this question is absolutlely critical - where can I get a package for lincity-NG?
[12:00] <liable> on a stick.
[12:00] <liable> propagandhi: ^^
[12:00] <Arafangion> frogzoo: Critical, eh?
[12:00] <vortek> iceman_ : not realy basicly its mostly just terminal windows
[12:00] <wickedpuppy> lincity-ng .. their homepage ?
[12:00] <vortek> iceman_ : like eterm or using xchat
[12:00] <frogzoo> Arafangion, heh
[12:00] <Arafangion> Synaptic shows very few programs.
[12:01] <rockviech> wickedpuppy, well the drivers which synaptic found
[12:01] <vortek> iceman_ : you just play with settings
[12:01] <wickedpuppy> !nvidia
[12:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:01] <frogzoo> Arafangion, check out the screenshots http://linux.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/LinCity-NG-Screenshot-2625.html
[12:01] <propagandhi> liable: no, an external USB hard disk
[12:01] <wickedpuppy> rockviech, are the drivers ones in the wiki link ?
[12:01] <propagandhi> liable: same story really though
[12:01] <Arafangion> frogzoo: I say tehre's nothing like the *original* simcity
[12:01] <iceman_> vortex I got that set, the terminal, but was curious if it has moved beyond that ?
[12:01] <rockviech> wickedpuppy, which link?
[12:01] <Ratzilla> anyone know how to install a .tar.bz2 file?
[12:02] <Arafangion> frogzoo: The version that did not have a corresponding windows version :)
[12:02] <wickedpuppy> rockviech, the one ubotu showed
[12:02] <mluna> wickedpuppy, you are late, when Arafangion  said 2 I'd just obbey
[12:02] <klaym> hello! Can someone give me the repository where I can get Opera web browser please?`my Firefox stopped functioning
[12:02] <mustard5> Ratzilla, they usually contain a README file
[12:02] <frogzoo> Ratzilla, tar zxf blah ; ./configure; make ; make install
[12:02] <liable> propagandhi: so booting a linux sytem on a fat16 partition?
[12:02] <wickedpuppy> mluna, huh ?
[12:02] <wickedpuppy> ubotu, tell rockviech about nvidia
[12:02] <mluna> thanks anyway
[12:02] <propagandhi> liable: no i made it ext3 or ReiserFS or whatever I wanted to use
[12:02] <Ratzilla> i cant seem to unzip the file
[12:03] <Arafangion> mluna: WHen asking things on irc about things you don't really know much about, it pays to wait about a minute after someone tells you something, to give people a chance to say that the answer that was given is wrong, etc.
[12:03] <propagandhi> I have a few distros dual booting off the USB HDD
[12:03] <elkbuntu> klaym, im not sure if there is one, but it's not hard to install otherwise,
[12:03] <wickedpuppy> Ratzilla, unzip file.zip
[12:03] <liable> propagandhi: then no need for syslinux is there?
[12:03] <frogzoo> Ratzilla, you want bunzip
[12:03] <mluna> just in case It will expire in 10 days
[12:03] <klaym> elkbuntu: I don't have a web browser right now so I can't go download it from a webpage
[12:03] <propagandhi> liable: no, just an initrd ramdisk that preloads the USB modules so that the USB device can be mounted during the boot process
[12:04] <elkbuntu> klaym sudo apt-get epiphany
[12:04] <SAM_theman> ok it works
[12:04] <Ratzilla> ive tried bunzip, tar and unzip but i think my file is corrupt or something..lemme go redownload
[12:04] <SAM_theman> ipv6 is now disable
[12:04] <morzel> hi
[12:04] <luans> wickedpuppy, do i just serch for those packages required for cedegna on synaptic?
[12:04] <elkbuntu> klaym its like ff
[12:04] <wickedpuppy> luans, cedega is commercial ...
[12:04] <frogzoo> Ratzilla, my bad, bunzip2
[12:04] <liable> propagandhi: ok, well that doesnt help, i can boot from grub on an ext2 partition on a stick, but syslinux pukes.
[12:04] <elkbuntu> klaym or even galeon, also similar
[12:05] <xzz> Ratzilla: tar xjfv file.tar.bz2
[12:05] <topyli> Ratzilla: that's bunzip2. anyway, is it a bzipped tar archive? what's supposed to be inside? you'
[12:05] <wickedpuppy> luans, www.transgaming.com <--cedega company
[12:05] <propagandhi> liable: ok, fair enough
[12:05] <luans> wickedpuppy, i c...
[12:05] <klaym> elkbuntu: I know there are text browsers in the repositories but I also know that there is a repository where I can get Opera
[12:05] <luans> wickedpuppy, soz i dont noe nefing on comps
[12:05] <topyli> Ratzilla: you're probably looking at a tarball of source code
[12:05] <elkbuntu> klaym epiphany and galeon are definately not text browsers
[12:05] <Ratzilla> its supposed to be realtek AC 97 audio codecs
[12:06] <propagandhi> klaym: why not just download from opera.com
[12:06] <wickedpuppy> luans, you want to play starcraft ... use windows ? i play my windows games in windows
[12:06] <elkbuntu> propaghandi he doesnt have a working browser
[12:06] <luans> wickedpuppy, my windows screwd over .. n all i got left is ubuntu
[12:06] <frogzoo> Ratzilla, have you tried bunzip2 ?
[12:06] <propagandhi> elkbuntu: well send him the download link and let him wget iit then
[12:06] <mirak> is there a way to make firefox use an external download manager like gnome download manager ?
[12:06] <wickedpuppy> luans, ah ... well .. hmms ...wine then :P
[12:06] <elkbuntu> klaym seeing nobody seems to know the repository with opera, although i'd guess backports
[12:07] <luans> wickedpuppy, ok  lol
[12:07] <Ratzilla> frogzoo: I have..it says...bunzip2: realtek-linux-audiopack-3.4-9.tar.bz2 is not a bzip2 file.
[12:07] <elkbuntu> klaym also, installing epiphany might.. might fix ff
[12:07] <topyli> frogzoo: lincity-ng is in debian unstable. should be easy to build a package from their sources
[12:07] <deFrysk> klaym, there is an opera repo indeed
[12:08] <elkbuntu> defrysk ooh, please do tell, i had wondered as well
[12:08] <frogzoo> topyli, cool - thx!
[12:08] <propagandhi> klaym:http://downloads.planetmirror.com/pub/opera/linux/850/final/en/i386/shared/opera-8.50-20050916.5-shared-qt.i386-en.tar.gz
[12:08] <deFrysk> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ unstable non-free
[12:09] <deFrysk> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[12:09] <elkbuntu> opera is all free now defrysk
[12:09] <topyli> no it's not
[12:09] <iceman_> back later all
[12:09] <elkbuntu> since a few months
[12:09] <elkbuntu> no ads, but you need to pay for support
[12:10] <deFrysk> elkbuntu, and klaym next time check the wiki ;) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser?highlight=%28opera%29
[12:10] <propagandhi> topyli: yes it is
[12:10] <topyli> elkbuntu: opera is very much non-free. only the prize has been lowered to a more friendly level
[12:10] <frogzoo> Ratzilla, what do you get with 'file  realtek-linux-audiopack-3.4-9.tar.bz2' ?
[12:10] <deFrysk> also you can get a preversion of opera9 at snapshot.opera.com
[12:11] <Ratzilla> frogzoo: realtek-linux-audiopack-3.4-9.tar.bz2: data
[12:11] <propagandhi> how the f*&^$ is it non-free when you can download and run it for free - thats FREEEE!!
[12:11] <propagandhi> maybe not open source, but free nonetheless
[12:11] <elkbuntu> topyli i dare you to go the http://opera.com and look at the big image
[12:11] <topyli> propagandhi: got a link to the license?
[12:11] <SAM_theman> is there a site to learn ubuntu ?
[12:11] <frogzoo> Ratzilla, try 'mv  realtek-linux-audiopack-3.4-9.tar.bz2  realtek-linux-audiopack-3.4-9.bz2 ; bunzip2  realtek-linux-audiopack-3.4-9.bz2'
[12:12] <Arafangion> SAM_theman: One tends to learn Linux, generically, and just get used to the nice fancy tools their current distro has.
[12:12] <propagandhi> topyli: I read the EULA when i installed it
[12:12] <elkbuntu> free software does not mean the same as open source, agreed, but opera is in free as in no cost.
[12:12] <frogzoo> propagandhi reads EULAs!!
[12:12] <topyli> propagandhi: did it permit you to copy, distribute and modify the provided source code?
[12:12] <Arafangion> frogzoo: Some EULA's are mighty interesting.
[12:12] <propagandhi> frogzoo: yes, believe it or not
[12:12] <elkbuntu> heh, i edit the MS eula on the computers at school, it's fun
[12:12] <Ratzilla> frogzoo: it gives me the same error when i try to use the bunzup2 command.. bunzip2: realtek-linux-audiopack-3.4-9.bz2 is not a bzip2 file.
[12:13] <propagandhi> topyli: I SAID ITS NOT OPEN SOURCE
[12:13] <propagandhi> it IS free
[12:13] <topyli> so is internet explorer then
[12:13] <elkbuntu> it seems topyli is yet another damn puritan
[12:13] <frogzoo> Ratzilla, about now, I'd do an md5sum on the file, & compare with release
[12:14] <propagandhi> topyli: I know what you're trying to prove and I know what open source is - nobody here said it was open source
[12:14] <grim_> Hi, how can I change the power options in ubuntu 5.10 after install (shutdown after 30 min inactive etc)?
[12:14] <elkbuntu> free does not.. i repeat does NOT equal open source. free software does not equal software freedom
[12:14] <propagandhi> topyli: but it IS FREE
[12:14] <deFrysk> propagandhi, opera = non-free whatever your point is ;)
[12:14] <elkbuntu> damn freaking puritans
[12:14] <topyli> propagandhi: i guess free and FREE are different words. free software is free. FREE stuff on the web seems to refer to price
[12:14] <propagandhi> deFrysk: I'm not arguing repos or what ubuntu provides either
[12:14] <grim_> i like free beer
[12:14] <robotgeek> elkbuntu: it's okay to be a puritan
[12:15] <topyli> free beer rules!
[12:15] <grim_> ;)
[12:15] <SAM_theman> there is no thunderbird for ubuntu?
[12:15] <elkbuntu> robotgeek sure, until you start trying to be an evangelist on the topic
[12:15] <klaym> deFrysk: could you please give me the URL to Opera repository if it is there in the Wiki you gave me. I can't open the URL since I haven't got a browser
[12:15] <propagandhi> why does everyone have to try to pull the  'free as in beer' speech
[12:15] <robotgeek> a friendly reminder-> All non support discussions are welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:15] <deFrysk> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ unstable non-free
[12:15] <grim_> so anyone know how to change the power settings in ubuntu?
[12:15] <Ratzilla> frogzoo: i think the file was corrupt, i redownloaded it and ran the bunzip2 command..then it just went onto the next line..and when i did a ls, there were no extra files or folders in the dir..
[12:15] <deFrysk> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[12:16] <klaym> deFrysk: thanks!
[12:16] <frogzoo> Ratzilla, but you now have a tar file, yes?
[12:16] <deFrysk> even opera.com names its product non-free in the repo
[12:16] <elkbuntu> defrysk mind not spamming please, you're acting like a troll
[12:16] <deFrysk> elkbuntu, dont be silly ;)
[12:16] <propagandhi> deFrysk: okay mate, you win on that technicality
[12:16] <Ratzilla> frogzoo: ahhh i didnt see the difference in file extension, thanks
[12:17] <elkbuntu> defrysk, dont be silly, you were the one repeating the repos at least three times
[12:17] <topyli> well, it's important that newbies know what free software is and why we want to use it
[12:17] <frogzoo> Ratzilla, you're on your way then, have fun!
[12:17] <robotgeek> a friendly reminder-> All non support discussions are welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:17] <deFrysk> elkbuntu, 2 times , on request , so again dont be silly
[12:17] <propagandhi> topyli: free software and open source software are two different things
[12:17] <elkbuntu> topyli if you're so worried about proprietry, maybe you should be using fedora
[12:17] <Arafangion> elkbuntu: Why fedora?
[12:18] <Arafangion> elkbuntu: Debian is the canonical 'free' distro.
[12:18] <elkbuntu> topyli newbies are not going to be fussed with whether they can mess with the source
[12:18] <Phil|vm> you guys know anything about playing avi's
[12:18] <Phil|vm> on ubuntu
[12:18] <elkbuntu> Arafangion, fedora is based on the premise of having everything non-proprietry
[12:18] <deFrysk> shall we go back to "on topic "people ?
[12:18] <bluefrog-10> var=`hostname -i`   gives me a space after my IP, is there a way to get rid of that space?
[12:18] <Ratzilla> frogzoo: thanks for the help :) now i can watch my southpark
[12:18] <grim_> Can anyone tell me where the system power settings are in 5.10? (gnome)
[12:18] <robotgeek> deFrysk: thank you!
[12:19] <HappyFool> !tell Phil|vm about restricted
[12:19] <mustard5> Phil|vm, you need w32codecs ...check link from ubotu
[12:19] <grim_> mplayer is a good avi player with right codecs
[12:19] <bungle> yeah mplayer is sweet
[12:19] <bungle> or xine
[12:20] <SAM_theman> umm...guys to install the nvidia driver go to nvidia site right?
[12:20] <grim_> totem is a nice front end, comes installed with xine i think
[12:20] <HappyFool> bluefrog-10: maybe var=`hostname -i|cut -f 1` ?
[12:20] <nightswim> !nvidia
[12:20] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:20] <nightswim> SAM_theman: ^^
[12:20] <SAM_theman> and can Ubuntu take rpms?
[12:20] <bluefrog-10> HappyFool, i'll try, ty
[12:20] <Phil|vm> ok this is gonna sound real stupid
[12:20] <SAM_theman> see i just installed ubuntu
[12:20] <Phil|vm> but, i don't know how to install anything
[12:20] <mustard5> SAM_theman, there are two options shown by ubotu above
[12:20] <deFrysk> SAM_theman, it can but there is no point in doing so
[12:20] <SAM_theman> i am a Fedora user
[12:20] <elkbuntu> SAM_theman, yes, convert them to .deb with alien
[12:20] <bluefrog-10> SAM_theman, install ubuntu nvidia drivers
[12:21] <SAM_theman> were are ubuntu nvidia drivers
[12:21] <HappyFool> !tell Phil|vm about synaptic
[12:21] <Phil|vm> thanks HappyFool
[12:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Phil|vm about apt-get
[12:21] <mustard5> SAM_theman, install via synaptic
[12:21] <Phil|vm> but i mean things that aren't on apt
[12:21] <bluefrog-10> SAM_theman, synaptic > nvidia-glx
[12:21] <deFrysk> !tell SAM_theman about nvidia
[12:21] <HappyFool> Phil|vm: let us know if it's confusing
[12:21] <nalioth> Phil|vm: you really should not isntall things that aren't in the repos
[12:21] <SAM_theman> and to tell the truth guys ubuntu is the only linux distro that seted my resoultion to default 1280*1024
[12:21] <Phil|vm> i've never been able to find w32codecs on synaptic
[12:21] <HappyFool> Phil|vm: for example?
[12:21] <Phil|vm> w32codecs
[12:21] <nalioth> Phil|vm: they are not there
[12:21] <Phil|vm> maplyer
[12:21] <HappyFool> ah
[12:21] <elkbuntu> nalioth, o.0
[12:21] <Phil|vm> *mplaye
[12:22] <nalioth> !tell Phil|vm about w32codecs
[12:22] <deFrysk> Phil|vm, download the codecs manually
[12:22] <Phil|vm> *mplayer
[12:22] <bungle> mplayer has them on there website
[12:22] <HappyFool> that would be because they're not legal ;)
[12:22] <nalioth> Phil|vm: mplayer is not named mplayer
[12:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Phil|vm about mplayer
[12:22] <elkbuntu> nalioth, that'd just ruin the fun of linux!
[12:22] <Phil|vm> oh lol, sorry
[12:22] <frogzoo> bluefrog-10,  var=`hostname -i | sed -e 's/ //'`
[12:23] <Phil|vm> does anything really change if i'm using breezy
[12:23] <nalioth> elkbuntu: it's supposed to be fun?
[12:23] <Phil|vm> the 64 edition
[12:23] <bozzu> is there something to make nautilus burn dvds on-the-fly?
[12:23] <alessio> hi
[12:23] <SAM_theman> thanks guys'
[12:23] <elkbuntu> nalioth i'd rather it be fun than tortuous
[12:23] <alessio> i'm an ubuntu member.. but i have a problem to import my gpg key
[12:23] <alessio> on launchpad
[12:23] <alessio> can anyone help me?
[12:23] <bluefrog-10> frogzoo, perfect ty very much
[12:24] <frogzoo> :)
[12:24] <nalioth> alessio: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[12:24] <alf_zhang> Is there a grub.conf file in ubuntu? i only got menu.lst
[12:24] <alessio> Launchpad could not import your GPG key
[12:24] <deFrysk> alf_zhang, same thing
[12:24] <alessio> nalioth, what?
[12:24] <grim_> how can i make the system shut down after 1 hour of inactivity?
[12:25] <mustard5> alessio join #kubuntu-offtopic for assistance
[12:25] <alf_zhang> u mean they are the same?
[12:25] <nalioth> alessio: /j #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:25] <alessio> ok
[12:25] <deFrysk> alf_zhang, some use grub.conf others use menu.lst
[12:25] <frogzoo> alf_zhang, locate grub.conf - draws a blank on hoary
[12:25] <deFrysk> some ditro's that is
[12:26] <alf_zhang> i get it,thanks
[12:26] <deFrysk> distro's*
[12:26] <grim_> does no-one here know about power options in ubuntu?
[12:26] <Ratzilla> when i try to run totem, i get a message that says 'error while loading shared libraries: libasound.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory'
[12:27] <Arafangion> How do I specify a DNS server in ubuntu, for dhcp links, particularly wifi?
[12:27] <e1z0> hello
[12:28] <mustard5> Arafangion, I'm going to try a guess.... :)  resolve.conf?
[12:28] <e1z0> its possible to get ubuntu boot floppy image ?
[12:28] <mustard5> Arafangion, I've never set up wifi in my life though :)
[12:29] <frogzoo> Ratzilla, you might want to symlink  /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 -> libasound.so.2.0.0
[12:30] <Justafa> e1z0, no
[12:32] <e1z0> why there are so many lamers out today ?
[12:32] <Ratzilla> frogzoo: is symlink a command? says command not found
[12:32] <deFrysk> symlink = ln -s
[12:32] <welp> anyone know how i can transport a 650Mb CD image from a caomuter with no CD r/w to a computer with a CD r/w?
[12:32] <Token_izer> i downloaded a a file from ATI for my video card, it has a *.run extension...... double clicking on it doesn't work, how do i run this?
[12:32] <luans> .
[12:32] <Justafa> e1z0, Ubuntu is for lazy ppl
[12:32] <e1z0> welp, with lpt cable
[12:33] <welp> 1pt cable?
[12:33] <BooZee> how do I add the "windows-1255" charset to apache2?
[12:33] <e1z0> or ethernet card
[12:33] <welp> one sec
[12:33] <e1z0> BooZee, with hands
[12:33] <e1z0> ;-)
[12:34] <deFrysk> e1z0, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WithFloppies?highlight=%28floppie%29
[12:34] <Ratzilla> is there a way to reinstall totem?
[12:34] <e1z0> thanks
[12:34] <e1z0> ;-)
[12:34] <rob_p> Arafangion:  You can modify /etc/resolv.conf but it will be overwritten the next time the dhclient process acquires network settings.  To prepend your own dns custom DNS entry, edit your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf file by adding, "prepend domain-name-servers your.dns.ip.address;" to the appropriate section.
[12:34] <deFrysk> e1z0, yw ;)
[12:34] <galle> Hello everyone! I have trouble installing ubuntu. I wan't to install the amd64 version, but the installation fails when copying from the cd. It says "couldn't read file from cd", and the verification of the cd fails. The md5 sum of the image is good, and I've tryed burning it several times with the same result, I even get the same error when I try to install debian-amd64.
[12:35] <deFrysk> galle, are you copying the iso to cd ?
[12:35] <galle> yes
[12:35] <deFrysk> galle, you have to burn the iso to cd , not copy
[12:36] <galle> deFrysk, ahh sorry, I'm burning the image, not copying it..
[12:36] <grim_> which burner?
[12:37] <deFrysk> galle, then it should be able to read the file
[12:37] <galle> a new benq, can't remember the number
[12:38] <Chizn> i c u
[12:39] <mustard5> welcome Chizn
[12:40] <Arafangion> How do I specify a DNS server in ubuntu, for dhcp links, particularly wifi?
[12:41] <shedi> Arafangion, /etc/resolv.conf
[12:41] <mustard5> heh..I got it right :)
[12:41] <luans> wickedpuppy, yerh thnx i got...
[12:42] <mirak> anyone uses flashgot ?
[12:42] <bungle> where are all the theme files
[12:43] <NiGhTHiNG> Which package contains manpages for open, perror, etc?
[12:43] <galle> grim_, a BenQ DW1640
[12:44] <mustard5> bungle other than the ones in system>>preferences>>themes?
[12:44] <bungle> lol tah I didn't look very hard for them I was lazy
[12:44] <Ratzilla> is there a way to reinstall an existing program?
[12:44] <mustard5> bungle, :)
[12:44] <bungle> nearly as lazy as my firned who I am gonna turn into the biggest looser and win herself $250,000
[12:45] <bungle> she is gonna pay my credit card bill when she wins
[12:45] <alessio>  Launchpad does not currently support validation of sign-only GPG keys. If you add an encryption subkey (using gpg --edit-key) and upload your key again, you should be able to import the key.
[12:45] <alessio>  but i have created a subkey
[12:45] <klaym> could someone please give me the address to the repositories -file on the HD ?
[12:45] <alessio> and i have resend the key
[12:46] <sword-> www.poundathlon.com
[12:46] <Arafangion> shedi: That file gets overwritten with dhcp, afaik.
[12:46] <sword-> ^^ feel free to contribute
[12:46] <mustard5> Arafangion, ah ok..thank for that info
[12:47] <nalioth> klaym: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:47] <Arafangion> mustard5: What info?
[12:47] <mustard5> Arafangion, the /etc/resolve.conf not being the one you need
[12:47] <topyli> Ratzilla: apt-get install --reinstall foo
[12:47] <Arafangion> mustard5: Indeed.
[12:48] <alessio> can anyone help me?
[12:48] <smi|e> alessio: sup
[12:48] <alessio> sup?
[12:48] <smi|e> yer, how can i help?
[12:48] <klaym> nalioth: thanks, but I meant the text file where repositories are defined
[12:48] <smi|e> klaym sources.list ?
[12:48] <klaym> yes
[12:48] <mustard5> klaym, /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:48] <smi|e> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:48] <klaym> thanks !
[12:49] <smi|e> klaym take a look at the default resp. list
[12:49] <smi|e> klaym: on breezy or hoary?
[12:49] <lachoss> hi
[12:49] <klaym> sm|le: warty :)
[12:49] <smi|e> ubotu tell klaym about respetories
[12:50] <mustard5> hey Mabus , I got a question for you :)
[12:50] <smi|e> ubotu tell klaym about sources
[12:50] <Mabus> why is it that my bittorrent downloads go much slower on linux than windows? this is not just isolated, it's becoming a pattern.
[12:50] <Mabus> Yes mustard5, what is it?
[12:50] <mustard5> do you know the answer to this question ? Arafangion How do I specify a DNS server in ubuntu, for dhcp links, particularly wifi?
[12:50] <Mabus> Hmm, let me check.
[12:51] <lachoss> i can't type tilded characters in xterm (such as , ). I can however type . With gnome-terminal tilded characters work. i'm using breezy and an utf-8 locale. any ideas on what may be wrong? thanks!
[12:51] <mustard5> Mabus, thanks :)
[12:51] <Alex[RM-UK] > Allo,
[12:51] <Mabus> mustard5, euh, I'm not sure...
[12:51] <mustard5> Mabus, k thanks anyway
[12:51] <Alex[RM-UK] > I installed Kubuntu 5.10 last night, then I came to it this morning and it just hangs on Loading Grub ..... and thats it, it wont load. Whats going on?
[12:51] <smi|e> hb nalioth_zZz
[12:51] <Mabus> I dont have a wireless card on this computer anymore, can't browse the options for it sorry
[12:52] <mustard5> Mabus I dont know the answer to yours either soz :)
[12:52] <Alex[RM-UK] > I did not edit Grub in anyway,
[12:52] <Arafangion> Hmm, HTTrack takes ALOT of resources.
[12:52] <Ratzilla> are there any other video players other than totem i can use?
[12:52] <Mabus> I set up ethernet properly on this comp (it wouldnt work for windows), so now the wireless card is in my XP machine
[12:52] <Arafangion> mustard5: No, that's why I asked :)
[12:53] <Mabus> mplayer, Ratzilla
[12:53] <smi|e> Mabus: i use wlan on ubuntu, it works fine
[12:53] <smi|e> ubotu tell Mabus about WLan
[12:53] <Mabus> uh
[12:53] <mustard5> Arafangion, yeah..I was hoping Mabus would have it fresh in his memory, but no luck
[12:53] <smi|e> Mabus install ndiswrapper (sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper) then install the windows wlan driver onto ubuntu using ndiswrapper
[12:53] <Mabus> smi|e, My internet is working fine I don't know what you're sending me a link for.
[12:53] <Ratzilla> Mabus: thanks
[12:53] <smi|e> Mabus you said you can't get wlan too work
[12:53] <Mabus> When, smi|e ?
[12:54] <Mabus> Ratzilla, np
[12:54] <Mabus> Maybe a few weeks ago, smi|e.
[12:54] <ventito> hi
[12:54] <smi|e> Mabus kk-
[12:54] <Mabus> But not recently. :)
[12:54] <Alex[RM-UK] > Anyone ? -- please I need to get it working
[12:54] <smi|e> lol k Mabus
[12:54] <ventito> need help :(
[12:54] <Mabus> Be more specific, ventito
[12:54] <Alex[RM-UK] > I installed Kubuntu 5.10 last night, then I came to it this morning and it just hangs on Loading Grub ..... and thats it, it wont load. Whats going on?
[12:54] <smi|e> ventito: how can we help
[12:55] <Mabus> Something bad, Alex[RM-UK] 
[12:55] <ventito> I need java runtime and from sun can only downld redhat and suse...
[12:55] <Alex[RM-UK] > ..great
[12:55] <alessio> who is an ubuntu member?
[12:55] <smi|e> ventito sun is for ubuntu aswell
[12:55] <smi|e> i use it
[12:55] <Alex[RM-UK] > Mabus, anyway to fix it?
[12:55] <alessio> join #ubuntu-devel
[12:55] <zando> ventito, take a look at the wiki
[12:55] <smi|e> ubotu tell ventito about java
[12:55] <Tomcat_> ventito: Download the Linux self-extracting version... it's for all distros.
[12:55] <Mabus> Alex[RM-UK] , I have never installed kubuntu, I was just stating the obvious
[12:56] <Alex[RM-UK] > :(
[12:56] <Mabus> ventito, I have had problems with that java, myself. If you have probelsm with that try installing java 4 not 5
[12:56] <ventito> ty all
[12:57] <goldfrap> how do you Login to WebMin of Cups ? It asks for a Root username and Password
[12:57] <goldfrap> but what I know Ubuntu only uses Sudo thing
[12:57] <goldfrap> I tried to login many times but it failed
[12:58] <goldfrap> i tried different usernames, root, admin, etc... with the exact Sudo password but still failed
[12:58] <Alex[RM-UK] > please help me fix my problem, it's annoying!
[12:58] <smi|e> Alex[RM-UK] : Obiously, no one can help at this moment. Please ask again later :))
[12:58] <Alex[RM-UK] > :(
[12:58] <mustard5> Alex[RM-UK] , unfortunately its the quietest its been in here all day
[12:59] <Alex[RM-UK] > shame,
[12:59] <mustard5> Alex[RM-UK] , you will have more luck when its busy and flat out
[12:59] <Arafangion> Alex[RM-UK] : Also, you need to provide more information.
[12:59] <goldfrap> anyone ?
[12:59] <goldfrap> please
[12:59] <Alex[RM-UK] > will 32 bit Kubuntu 5.04 work on a 64bit system?
[12:59] <goldfrap> Alex[RM-UK] , No
[12:59] <mustard5> goldfrap i have very feint memories of this myself
[12:59] <smi|e> goldfrap: if someone could help, they would have answered, please try later :)
[12:59] <johnnybezak> hey guys i need to build something from source, how do I make it into a .deb so i can apt-get remove it etc. i remember there being some program so that I could type "./configure && make && something-make install
[12:59] <darksatanic> goldfrap: Err... it should do.
[01:00] <darksatanic> Alex[RM-UK] : It should do.
[01:00] <smi|e> how do i install TCL on my system guys?
[01:00] <goldfrap> things... i just give Ubuntu a try... :)
[01:00] <mustard5> goldfrap, the specifics of the solution escape me, you could try setting a root password though if you havent already
[01:00] <_jason> ubotu:  tell johnnybezak about checkinstall
[01:00] <goldfrap> But Sudo thing cant do all things in the System
[01:00] <goldfrap> its limited...
[01:00] <mustard5> goldfrap what limits have you struck?
[01:01] <Arafangion> goldfrap: Just a moment.
[01:01] <johnnybezak> _jason: bots are the devil just give me quick run down i'll be able to work it out
[01:01] <eNiAc> I figured out how to get gaim sounds to werk in wmaker ;) just had to run: esd and set gaim to use esd
[01:01] <psinghal> hello... can anyone tell me how to install tcl/tk on ubuntu ?
[01:01] <psinghal> Tcl/Tk ?
[01:01] <smi|e> tcl
[01:01] <smi|e> for eggdrops
[01:01] <smi|e> etc.
[01:01] <smi|e> too compile them
[01:01] <_jason> johnnybezak:  it's pretty concise on that wiki
[01:01] <psinghal> i have installed tcl8.3
[01:01] <smi|e> !tcl
[01:01] <ubotu> smi|e: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:01] <Token_izer> anyone can help me with this? i installed amd64 version of ubuntu on an Acer Ferrari laptop ... tried to installed the wireless card which seems to be ok..... it spotted the wireless networks of my neighbours and mine however when i try to connect to mine it says sucess, when i ping yahoo.com or try using any network however, i get "no active connection" .... anyone knows how i can find out the problem?
[01:01] <psinghal> and tk8.4
[01:01] <nalioth_zZz> psinghal: install tcl8.4-dev
[01:01] <smi|e> kk
[01:01] <psinghal> ya
[01:01] <johnnybezak> _jason: ok i'll just hunt it
[01:01] <psinghal> i have installed dev packages too
[01:02] <psinghal> then also it says tcl: command not found
[01:02] <bigfoot1> how come the changes i do to "screensaver" (power saving functions) don't stick?
[01:02] <smi|e> nalioth_zZz: that will let me compile eggdrops right? tcl8.4-dev
[01:02] <goldfrap> Token_izer, is the Access Point connected to the Internet ?
[01:02] <johnnybezak> is back ports frowned upon?
[01:02] <psinghal> smile: can u tell the link for that wiki ?
[01:02] <smi|e> bigfoot1: Save current session settings on logout
[01:02] <psinghal> which wiki ?
[01:02] <nalioth_zZz> smi|e: and the tk -dev pkg
[01:02] <psinghal> ya.. tk-dev also i have installed
[01:02] <psinghal> still when i say $tcl abc.tcl
[01:02] <smi|e> nalioth_zZz: thanKz
[01:03] <Token_izer> goldfrap, you can seem me typing can't you?
[01:03] <psinghal> it says tcl: command not found
[01:03] <Arafangion> amorrox: Ok, now, are you part of the "lpadmin" group?
[01:03] <smi|e> nalioth_zZz: tk8.4-dev
[01:03] <smi|e> right?
[01:03] <psinghal> ya
[01:03] <psinghal> right
[01:03] <amorrox> Token_izer ? what do u mean
[01:03] <amorrox> Arafangion, yes
[01:03] <bigfoot1> smi|e: i mean without logging out/rebooting. when i go back to screensaver after closing/quitting it, changes don't stick
[01:03] <Arafangion> amorrox: Your account should be sufficient, just login as yourself.
[01:03] <amorrox> no problem with that
[01:03] <smi|e> bigfoot1: did you "apply" and "save"
[01:03] <psinghal> can anyone help me ?
[01:03] <psinghal> smile: you were telling me the lin
[01:03] <amorrox> Arafangion, a msgbox ask for a Username and Password
[01:04] <bigfoot1> smi|e: there's no apply and save buttons
[01:04] <Token_izer> amorrox, i mean i'm connected to same router .... and actually the wired network card (ethernet card) worked with Ubuntu on that same laptop right out of the box
[01:04] <mirak> gwget sucks
[01:04] <amorrox> what Username should I use?
[01:04] <smi|e> bigfoot1: close should do it
[01:04] <Token_izer> then i installed the wireless using ndiswrapper
[01:04] <Arafangion> amorrox: What username are you logged into your ubuntu system as?
[01:04] <bigfoot1> smi|e: close doesn't do it.
[01:04] <smi|e> bigfoot1: not sure then,
[01:04] <amorrox> Arafangion, im not quiet sure, since Ubuntu only used Sudo thing, I tried root, Root, admin, Administrator, etc..
[01:04] <smi|e> i've never fidled with them settings
[01:05] <amorrox> Token_izer, can you ping the Router ?
[01:05] <smi|e> nalioth_zZz: your part of the ubuntu project right?
[01:05] <pupil> Of all the different Ubuntu's which one is the lightest ?
[01:05] <pupil> would that be kubuntu?
[01:05] <Token_izer> nop, message: "network is unreachable"
[01:05] <smi|e> pupil ubuntu
[01:05] <linuxboy> pupil: lightest?
[01:05] <amorrox> Token_izer, Lol :)
[01:06] <smi|e> linuxboy: he means "smallest"
[01:06] <Arafangion> amorrox: This is unbelievable.
[01:06] <psinghal> hey !! how to install Tcl dudes
[01:06] <psinghal> i am not able to install
[01:06] <pupil> linuxboy, for slower computers
[01:06] <psinghal> on Ubuntu 5.04
[01:06] <Arafangion> amorrox: How about this, turn off your computer.
[01:06] <smi|e> pupil: ubuntu
[01:06] <Arafangion> amorrox: Turn it back on and boot into ubuntu.
[01:06] <smi|e> the latest
[01:06] <smi|e> should be able too run
[01:06] <Arafangion> amorrox: And record what damn username you used.
[01:06] <amorrox> Arafangion, ive got experiece in Linux for 2 years, :) i tried all ways
[01:06] <smi|e> check the stats
[01:06] <linuxboy> pupil: aaah. Wasn't there a version with XFCE ?
[01:06] <smi|e> ubotu tell pupil about Ubuntu
[01:06] <pupil> smi|e, and what about kubuntu
[01:06] <amorrox> Arafangion, rebooted many times
[01:06] <amorrox> :)
[01:06] <pupil> linuxboy, yes,. xubuntu
[01:07] <Arafangion> amorrox: *sigh*, ok, say "whoami" on the bash prompt.
[01:07] <pupil> smi|e, I am using ubuntu as we speak,. breezy
[01:07] <smi|e> pupil xubuntu is a new one, i dont like it myself, i got kubuntu and ubuntu aswell, ubuntu is the nicest i think
[01:07] <linuxboy> pupil: I reacon that one then
[01:07] <smi|e> althought i also have xubuntu
[01:07] <rockviech> hi
[01:07] <smi|e> dont use it though
[01:07] <elkbuntu> linuxboy, there is a project for a lightweight ubuntu using icewm iirc, its in the wiki somewhere.. hard to find though
[01:07] <smi|e> hi rockviech
[01:07] <deFrysk> xubuntu is nice for lighter boxes
[01:07] <rockviech> where do i find the wiki for nvidia drivers?
[01:07] <Token_izer> ok, this is the issue, acer ferrari like many other laptops, has a little wifi button on keyboard to turn it on, it works with windows, obviously however this button's light doesn't come on, on Ubuntu
[01:07] <smi|e> !nvidia
[01:07] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:07] <amorrox> Arafangion wait,,,
[01:08] <Token_izer> i know the keycodes, how can i somehow address this issue,
[01:08] <smi|e> ubotu tell rockviech about nvidia
[01:08] <elkbuntu> i'll go search, see if i can find it for pupil
[01:08] <amorrox> I will turn on it first
[01:08] <pupil> elkbuntu, thank you
[01:08] <eNiAc> gnome is rather bulky
[01:08] <smi|e> bbl
[01:08] <rockviech> thans smile
[01:08] <idling> tc
[01:08] <tomaj> how do i get movies playing properly in firefox?
[01:08] <tomaj> whats the wiki page?
[01:09] <pupil> eNiAc, thats what I'm finding,. although,. i have to say,. I have set up a few things on it, .including ltsp = Linux Terminal Server Project
[01:09] <mustard5> tomaj, define properly?
[01:09] <mustard5> tomaj, you have mozplugger installed?
[01:09] <eNiAc> pupil good stuff
[01:09] <tomaj> well the movies play but they dont play in their entirety they just stop playing half way through
[01:09] <mustard5> tomaj ah ok :)
[01:09] <tomaj> mustard5 no i dont should i get it?
[01:10] <pupil> eNiAc, works fine., but my server is Wireless and client is ethernet cable,. strangely enough it freezes the computer
[01:10] <amorrox> Arafangion, whoami = amorrox
[01:10] <mustard5> tomaj yeah it allows external apps to play inside firefox
[01:10] <Arafangion> amorrox: Well done! Your username to log into cups is "amorrox", without the quotation marks.
[01:10] <amorrox> Token_izer, is your Router configured to DHCP ?
[01:10] <eNiAc> pupil, dunno know much about it
[01:10] <tomaj> ok ill try it mustard5 thanx
[01:10] <amorrox> Arafangion, I tried that one :)
[01:10] <amorrox> the username
[01:11] <Arafangion> amorrox: What does "groups" say?
[01:11] <amorrox> even other accounts
[01:11] <bungle> ya no how when you open your gui .. the ubuntu logo bomes up
[01:11] <Token_izer> yes, actually, i tracked down the problem on google
[01:11] <bungle> comes*
[01:11] <tomaj> mustard5 is there a way to specify for it not to load pdf files in firfox?
[01:11] <bungle> where is that picture
[01:12] <mustard5> tomaj, not sure
[01:12] <Token_izer> it has to do with Ubuntu not powering on the network adapter..... so i have to download drivers for ubuntu to power it on
[01:12] <tomaj> ok thanx mustard5
[01:12] <amorrox> Token_izer, so it means the wifi card is currently working now ?
[01:13] <mustard5> Token_izer, you using ndiswrapper?
[01:14] <amorrox> Token_izer, if it works fine, maybe you misconfigured something
[01:14] <eNiAc> vlc media player werks well... I use totem-xine too but between the two can play most stuff... w32codecs as well
[01:14] <lee> I've just tried to apt-get dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy, and it's got stuck at "Setting up lvm2...", hotplug seems to have died as my PCMCIA WNIC isn't responding any more, and ^C isn't interrupting apt-get (it's been sitting there for a good 20 minutes)
[01:15] <lee> any suggestions what to do next without borking my system?
[01:15] <deFrysk> totem tends to hang when used as plug-in in firefox
[01:15] <deFrysk> better to use mplayer instead
[01:15] <eNiAc> ya don't like the moz-plug
[01:16] <deFrysk> probably wil be fixed in dapper
[01:16] <eNiAc> agrivating on porn no volumn control... lol
[01:16] <mustard5> lee, try waiting a little longer then reboot and restart the dist-upgrade
[01:17] <tomaj> sigh. firefox crashes when i try to close a tab after or during playing a video clip, also trying to refresh causes the problem occasionally
[01:17] <lee> I'm wondering what the chances are of it failing to boot ...
[01:17] <mustard5> lee, your options are rather limited at moment
[01:18] <mustard5> lee, if you can get a command prompt you can get it going again
[01:18] <amorrox> bye :) cyah!
[01:18] <nickrud> lee, you might try killing dpkg and/or apt  from another console/terminal
[01:19] <mustard5> nickrud, its locked up on hotplug with keyboard not responding
[01:19] <nickrud> that's what I get for not scrolling back. Sorry.
[01:20] <liable> !kill syslinux
[01:20] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, liable
[01:20] <lee> ok, rebooted it, and it boots... gnome doesn't load but it drops me to a terminal
[01:21] <mustard5> lee your in business ;)
[01:21] <lee> console, rather
[01:21] <lee> unfortunately the WNIC doesn't come up
[01:21] <mustard5> wnic?
[01:21] <lee> wireless network interface card
[01:21] <PJeremy> anyone else having problems getting the j2sdk1.5 from the repos?
[01:21] <mustard5> lee ah ok
[01:21] <Chizn> PJeremy, nope
[01:21] <Chizn> fine for me
[01:22] <gutsohn> lirc, irexec?
[01:22] <deFrysk> PJeremy, probs like ?
[01:22] <deFrysk> downloading ?
[01:22] <mustard5> lee you probably have more idea than me how you might get it going again
[01:22] <PJeremy> deFrysk: yes. i get a 404  not found
[01:22] <deFrysk> PJeremy, I used the wiki and build my own .deb
[01:23] <elkbuntu> pupil, it seems to have disappeared :(
[01:23] <elkbuntu> pupil, what system specs are you trying on?
[01:23] <mustard5> lee, do you know how to manually connect?
[01:23] <PJeremy> deFrysk: i could do that, but i would prefer using the repo.
[01:23] <lee> mustard5: nope
[01:24] <mustard5> one tick then..let me look something up
[01:24] <lee> hum, this isn't good, apt-get dist-upgrade only wants to upgrade a couple of packages like rythmbox and remove totem ...
[01:25] <elkbuntu> pupil ooh found it.. http://ubuntulite.org/
[01:25] <mustard5> lee, what does iwconfig give you?
[01:25] <mustard5> lee, is your device listed?
[01:26] <lee> no, iwconfig doesnb't see eth1
[01:26] <lee> nothing at all happens or appears in syslog when I unplug or insert the card ...
[01:27] <mustard5> lee, hmm
[01:29] <egoleo> can some help me with football game like on ubuntu?
[01:29] <mustard5> lee, you want the wifi guide to try to config from terminal?
[01:30] <lee> mustard5: I don't think wifi is the issue, I think hotplug needs fixing, because inserting or removing the card seems to do absolutely nothing
[01:32] <Lk2> holo!
[01:33] <mustard5> lee, I wouldnt know how to proceed with fixing hotplug
[01:33] <Lk2> somebody can help me with a problem in ubuntu for amd64?
[01:34] <mustard5> Lk2, state your problem and we will see
[01:34] <linuxboy> will breezy get backports sometime?
[01:34] <Lk2> when I try to change the language of my system I have a segmentation fault on localedef ....
[01:34] <mustard5> linuxboy, eventually yes..but not now
[01:35] <mustard5> linuxboy, there has to be something to backport from Dapper first
[01:35] <linuxboy> mustard5: yeah
[01:35] <elkbuntu> damn i did lose pupil
[01:36] <Ja1> can you recommend a commandline WiFi accespoint discovery appliacation ?
[01:38] <mustard5> Jal, iwconfig ?
[01:39] <Ja1> no something capable to search the ether around
[01:39] <Arafangion> Ja1: So you mean servers?
[01:40] <Ja1> I mean available access point in my location
[01:41] <egoleo> any nice games on ubuntu for me to install
[01:41] <egoleo> car racing
[01:41] <barongas> How do I set the amount of colors in gnome?
[01:42] <barongas> I have this game I'm trying to run with cedega that obviously works better if there's only 16 colors around
[01:42] <psinghal> hello
[01:43] <psinghal> can anyone guid eme on a problem with amarok on Ubuntu
[01:43] <egoleo> cedega?
[01:43] <psinghal> when i try to play a file, it doesnt play it and says playlist finished
[01:43] <psinghal> thats it... no sound.. and it increments the play count of that file also
[01:44] <barongas> egoleo, it's a version of wine, allowing to play windows games
[01:44] <psinghal> can no one of you solve this /
[01:44] <psinghal> are you all not dedicated to Ubuntu  ??
[01:44] <fm> hi
[01:44] <barongas> pschulz01, I have never used amarok. People who can and feel like helping will when they get time.
[01:44] <mirak> how to know the date in the bios, not the ont of linux ?
[01:45] <fm> I'd like tu burn a double layer dvd on two 4n7GB dvds, but I can't find any info on how to do this under linux, could somebody help me ?
[01:45] <nickrud> psinghal, sure, just not kubuntu ;P
[01:46] <barongas> So no-one know how to change gnome to run at 16 colors without hacking xorg.conf?
[01:46] <nickrud> mirak, hwclock is the command you are looking for
[01:46] <rob_p> psinghal:  Is your volume up?  Really!  I can't count how many times folks have come in here and complained about sound "not working" only to find out that their volume controls were down or muted.
[01:46] <Arafangion> fm: I have yet to do it, but afaik, dvdrecord (and frontends that use that tool) should do it.
[01:46] <mirak> nickrud: thanks
[01:46] <Arafangion> barongas: There is no other way.
[01:46] <nickrud> barongas, that cannot be done without restarting X
[01:47] <fm> ok cool
[01:47] <barongas> Arafangion, thanks man. I'm gonna try it right now
[01:47] <tekeo> I want to install nVidia drivers but I'm not sure how to do so...
[01:47] <Arafangion> How do I *turn sound off*?
[01:48] <Cryptid> How do i duel boot Ubuntu with Windows XP i have Ubuntu Installed on hda and Windows on hdb please help me
[01:48] <trm> hi can someone tell me how to switch DMA on for cd-rom
[01:48] <Arafangion> I can adjust sound, etc, while the system is in use, but I just can't control the sounds that occur when the user is not logged in, ie, startup and shutdown sounds.
[01:49] <ukh> trm: man hdparm.  but in most cases I think dma is turned on by default unless the kernel *knows* there's a problem with it
[01:49] <Arafangion> trm: Usually automatically done, I think a program that does it is "fdparm", but beware that it can seriously **** your setup.
[01:49] <mustard5> ubotu: tell trm about dma
[01:49] <nickrud> Arafangion, you might be able to use amixer from a script to set the volumes at the right point
[01:49] <Cryptid> !dual boot
[01:49] <ubotu> Cryptid: Wish i knew
[01:49] <Cryptid> !Duel boot
[01:49] <ubotu> Cryptid: What?
[01:49] <Arafangion> nickrud: Good idea.
[01:49] <mustard5> !dualboot
[01:49] <ubotu> dualboot is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[01:50] <trm> thanks Ubotu :)
[01:50] <Cryptid> mustard5, thanx
[01:50] <mustard5> np
[01:50] <Arafangion> Interesting, hibernation works, but standby doesn't (Doesn't do any more than blank the screen).
[01:50] <psycode> what's the command for checking my ip? isn't it lpconfig?
[01:50] <Arafangion> Anyone else have this problem? Standby only blacks out hte screen, rather than suspending all activity and just maintain memory contents?
[01:50] <Arafangion> psycode: ifconfig
[01:50] <nickrud> Arafangion, what I want is individual app sound control; kpig is very quiet, so I turn up the volume; then all other sounds make me jump :)
[01:51] <Arafangion> psycode: lpconfig is for printers, afaik.
[01:51] <psycode> Arafangion, thanks lol :)
[01:51] <tekeo> need help to install nvidia drivers on Breezy AMD64...
[01:52] <Arafangion> tekeo: I'd try the nv drivers, if you can't use nvidia. 64-bit compatibility is tricky at the best of times.
[01:52] <tekeo> what files to install
[01:52] <tekeo> there are lots of nvidia files in the synaptic prog...
[01:53] <Tomcat_> !tell tekeo about nvidia
[01:53] <tekeo> I
[01:53] <Cryptid> mustard5, How do i duel boot Ubuntu with Windows XP i have Ubuntu Installed on hda and Windows on hdb please help me wiki page dosent have the solution to my problem
[01:53] <tekeo> have looked at these
[01:53] <tekeo> but doesn't say about amd 64
[01:54] <trm> is there a way to boost sound ? I have a laptop and volume control is at max
[01:54] <PJeremy> what's the difference between motif and gtk?
[01:54] <Tuxist> hi
[01:54] <tekeo> should I install drivers from nvidia webpage?
[01:54] <Arafangion> PJeremy: One's ugly as shit, the other's passible.
[01:54] <PJeremy> Arafangion: and which is which..
[01:54] <Arafangion> PJeremy: motif is ugly.
[01:55] <mustard5> Cryptid, what is the problem that is not covered?
[01:55] <Arafangion> PJeremy: I'm told it's a dream to develop with, though.
[01:55] <Tuxist> i have a problem with kernel 2.6.14 and ubuntu breezy 64bit
[01:55] <PJeremy> Arafangion: okay, thanks.
[01:55] <Tuxist> i cant mount my second harddisk
[01:56] <Arafangion> PJeremy: Why do you ask?
[01:56] <mustard5> Cryptid, are you having issues with grub?
[01:56] <PJeremy> Arafangion: i was wondering because of azureus..
[01:56] <Cryptid> mustard5, i guess so
[01:56] <eedge> How do I mount a partition (hda5) with read/write for non root users?
[01:56] <Arafangion> PJeremy: btw, Qt is the *best* Gui api, the end. It's practically indisputable.
[01:56] <Mabus> how do I get .rm files to play in totem-xine?
[01:56] <Arafangion> PJeremy: It's license is a problem, though, and for commercial use, it's very, very, very expensive.
[01:57] <Tuxist> chown ? chmod 777 ?
[01:57] <Cryptid> mustard5, i have Ubuntu on one hard disk and windows on another i want to know how to dual boot when i connect my windows HD as slave my computer isnt able to detect my Ubutnu as well as Windows HD
[01:57] <mustard5> Cryptid, did you install XP again after ubuntu?
[01:57] <tekeo> nvidia drivers...
[01:57] <nickrud> Mabus, I just went thru that last night :)
[01:57] <tekeo> shall I install the ones from nvidia.com?
[01:57] <Arafangion> tekeo: Give it a go.
[01:57] <Mabus> nickrud, so you have advice for me then?
[01:57] <nickrud> Mabus, first question: do you have w32codecs?
[01:58] <qos> hey guys ...
[01:58] <PJeremy> Arafangion: why is it so expensive?
[01:58] <Mabus> i don't know... i can play mpegs and avis and whatnot
[01:58] <Tuxist> have anybody allready install the kernel 2.6.14
[01:58] <Cryptid> mustard5, XP is on a diffrent HD
[01:58] <eedge> How do I mount a partition (hda5) with read/write for non root users?
[01:58] <Arafangion> PJeremy: Several thousand dollars per developer.
[01:58] <qos> what exactly does the dot "." in a bash script? for example ". $CONFIG"
[01:58] <Arafangion> PJeremy: For the life of the development, per year
[01:58] <Arafangion> PJeremy: Or something at that order.
[01:58] <Tuxist> eedge chmod 777 and chown
[01:59] <mustard5> !tell Cryptid about grub
[01:59] <eedge> er.. how do I do that in fstab?
[01:59] <mustard5> Cryptid, check in grub stuff from ubotu
[01:59] <Sionide> anyone used an ipod with ubuntu?
[01:59] <Sionide> wiki says use a prog called banshee ? shall i do that?
[01:59] <Stormx2> Great. My soundcard has decided to die overnight....... again!
[01:59] <Sionide> it's a mates ipod, he just wants to steal mah moosik :P
[01:59] <Tuxist> you must change directory permissions
[01:59] <Arafangion> Stormx2: Be thankful it's not onboard.
[01:59] <eedge> so, after I've mounted.
[01:59] <nickrud> Mabus, look in .gnome2/totem-addons; you need a bunch of links to dll's and .so's in there. the .so's are for real media
[02:00] <Tuxist> right
[02:00] <eedge> I change the directory permissions at the mount point?
[02:00] <eedge> and it'll be perminant.
[02:00] <eedge> lovely.
[02:00] <Mabus> nickrud, I searched synaptic and found w32codecs... it wasn't installed so I'm installing it
[02:00] <Tuxist> yes you can for example mc i
[02:00] <Stormx2> Could someone suggest a good way to figure out where a new USB device has been plugged in (before/after index of /dev/, then compare?)
[02:01] <nickrud> Mabus, totem-xine will populate totem-addons for you when you run it, and you should be good to go
[02:01] <mustard5> Mabus, you got seveas repo enabled?  *wonders how he got w32codecs in synaptic*
[02:01] <Tuxist> so can help me anybody with my problem
[02:01] <liable> well, i am convinced that syslinux is nothing more than a joke..
[02:01] <kaur> I am having a problem with my logitech mouse
[02:01] <nickrud> Mabus, however, I had some other issues, so if you have problems, ping me.
[02:01] <liable> sorry wrong window..
[02:01] <Tomcat_> kaur: Details?
[02:02] <kaur> it is a logitech mous and it is not moving
[02:02] <kaur> it connects to serial port
[02:02] <liable> although it is still relevent here also..
[02:02] <darrochfamily> hi
[02:03] <mirak> is it possible to chroot a 64bits linux froma 32 bits linux ?
[02:03] <Tuxist> no
[02:03] <darrochfamily> how do I put the places and system menus into the applications menu?  (I want to have just one big start menu)
[02:03] <mustard5> kaur, have your read this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerialMouseHowto?highlight=%28serial%29%7C%28mouse%29
[02:04] <SAM_theman> yo people i am back
[02:04] <SAM_theman> :Fd
[02:04] <SAM_theman> *:D
[02:04] <Arafangion> darrochfamily: I would advise against doing that.
[02:04] <darrochfamily> Arafangion: why?
[02:04] <Arafangion> darrochfamily: After you use linux for a while, you will have ALOT of items in those lists.
[02:04] <Arafangion> darrochfamily: One main reason why people like an xterm open.
[02:04] <SAM_theman> Cannot load entry
[02:04] <SAM_theman> Details: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/nautilus-home.desktop': File not found
[02:05] <darrochfamily> Arafangion: it's for my dad's computer he never installs any new sowtware
[02:05] <SAM_theman> i can't load my home or computer folder????
[02:05] <Arafangion> darrochfamily: Well, there should be a menu-editing program on the 'main' list.
[02:05] <Arafangion> darrochfamily: Last item, I think.
[02:05] <mustard5> SAM_theman, icons dissapeared from desktop too ?
[02:05] <SAM_theman> what the hell i just install ubuntu to
[02:05] <SAM_theman> nope
[02:05] <SAM_theman> just won't load???
[02:06] <SAM_theman> and i just installed ubuntu
[02:06] <augustin> hello
[02:06] <SAM_theman> yo
[02:06] <augustin> i have a problem with samba, it just Doesn't Work (tm) =/
[02:06] <darrochfamily> Arafangion: yes there's one for the aplications menu but not for the other two (that I can see)
[02:06] <SAM_theman> u see
[02:06] <augustin> i'm asked a password when i should not be
[02:06] <Arafangion> augustin: I find it helps if the windows computers are registered in DNS.
[02:06] <mustard5> SAM_theman, try killall nautilus in terminal
[02:07] <augustin> Arafangion i think they are, but i will try that, thanks
[02:07] <Hhhhh> ok, here I go: I'm gonna install breezy in P1 150Mhz 16MB RAM 1.3GB HDD and I'll try using gnome
[02:07] <augustin> Arafangion yeah they are =/
[02:07] <Hhhhh> i'll let you know of the outcome
[02:07] <Arafangion> darrochfamily: That makes sense. You might be able to actually remove those.
[02:07] <SAM_theman> Details: Failed to execute child process "gnome-terminal" (No such file or directory)
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> Hhhhh, i think we already know the outcome
[02:07] <SAM_theman> WTF????
[02:07] <egoleo> any game
[02:07] <eedge> erm, can't seem to change permissions of my mountpoint.
[02:07] <mustard5> SAM_theman, did you install with expert mode?
[02:07] <Hhhhh> hmm, what if I use fluxbox, would it still be too bad?
[02:07] <SAM_theman> i don't know
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> Hhhhh, X will be bad :P
[02:08] <eedge> if I navigate there and try to chmod 777 fdrive.
[02:08] <eedge> I still cant write thre.
[02:08] <eedge> there even
[02:08] <nickrud> Hhhhh, do a server install; maybe 16M will able to handle the install, but, probably not
[02:08] <smarco> Hhhhh, you dont have enough ram to run anything but links in a xterm
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> eedge, you have to mount as users
[02:08] <Arafangion> Hhhhh: You will find that the memory will be the biggest problem.
[02:08] <darrochfamily> Arafangion: yes I can remove the other two, but I still need some of their entries like 'logout'
[02:08] <Stormx2> Could someone suggest a good way to figure out where a new USB device has been plugged in (before/after index of /dev/, then compare?)
[02:08] <mustard5> SAM_theman, probably default if you don't know
[02:08] <eedge> how do I write to my mounted drive as a user then?
[02:08] <eedge> without sudo...
[02:08] <Arafangion> darrochfamily: Add a 'logout' thing to the panel.
[02:09] <daan> what wasthe command to change the acces rights to a file or folder?
[02:09] <wickedpuppy> eedge, in fstab .. change default to user
[02:09] <wickedpuppy> daan, chmod
[02:09] <daan> thanks
[02:09] <mustard5> SAM_theman, can you join #kubuntu-offtopic please?
[02:09] <hume> hi...is there a netboot archive for breezy somewhere, to use for a pxe-install? I only find for hoary on the ubuntu website
[02:10] <mustard5> SAM_theman, I'll see you in there
[02:10] <Hhhhh> what is min RAM for breezy/X/gnome (for another old machine but not as crappy as this laptop)
[02:10] <eedge> its allready user : /dev/hda5 	/media/fdrive 	vfat	rw,user 	0 	0
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> Hhhhh, 64 is recommended
[02:10] <Arafangion> Hhhhh: If you even get it installed, you'll find best performance with the console, no X at all.
[02:10] <augustin> nobody for some help with samba ? =/
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> eedge, then you should be able to change the access
[02:10] <Arafangion> Hhhhh: Possibly using framebuffer.
[02:11] <darrochfamily> Arafangion: if I added the debian menu as a submenu of the main one would that give me all the system administrative programs?
[02:11] <Arafangion> Hhhhh: X11 itself probably takes at LEAST 1-2 MB of memory.
[02:11] <mustard5> augustin, setting up samba?
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> darrochfamily, you already have system admin programs
[02:11] <augustin> mustard5 yeah, and making it work =P
[02:11] <eedge> well, I can't.
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> darrochfamily, System - > admin
[02:11] <Hhhhh> Arafangion, I'm installing it in an old laptop that needs some OS, I don't care if it is slow as long as it runs
[02:11] <mustard5> augustin, you been given the wiki guide yet?
[02:11] <Arafangion> Hhhhh: Plus fluxbox, probably takes another 05 MB, plus Gtk, another MB, plus your program your running, 0.5 MB...
[02:11] <augustin> mustard5 i installed it but must have missed something, for when i try connecting to a shared directory, it asks me for a password...
[02:11] <Arafangion> Hhhhh: You're quickly running out of space.
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> eedge, do chmod and paste the output on the pastebin pls
[02:12] <augustin> mustard5 yeah, i've read both the ubuntu.org and the ubuntu-fr.org ones
[02:12] <mustard5> ubotu: tell augustin about samba
[02:12] <Hhhhh> Arafangion, will it run in 16? I mean, i'll have swap hell but will it be better than win95?
[02:12] <augustin> mustard5 they are essentially the same, in that they don't work for me =)
[02:12] <eedge> even with sudo nautilus, I go to I go to /media and with properties for fdrive.
[02:12] <eedge> I cant tick the boxes.
[02:12] <eedge> it ticks them, then unticks.
[02:12] <augustin> mustard5 i've read those, thanks =)
[02:12] <Arafangion> Hhhhh: I personally find win95 performs better than a graphical linux desktop.
[02:12] <nickrud> darrochfamily, yes, install menu-xdg and all the debian menus will appear under applications
[02:12] <rockviech> hi
[02:12] <rockviech> how can i see fps on glxgears?
[02:12] <eedge> chmod doesn't give an error, it just doesn't change.
[02:12] <mustard5> augustin, k
[02:13] <mustard5> augustin, can't help you soz
[02:13] <wickedpuppy> eedge, can you chmod on the command line ? lets us see .... ls -l /media/fdrive too
[02:13] <mustard5> augustin, try someone else
[02:13] <darrochfamily> nickrud: cool thanks :-)
[02:13] <rockviech> hm?
[02:13] <darrochfamily> Arafangion: thanks :-)
[02:13] <augustin> mustard5 np
[02:13] <Arafangion> Hhhhh: Nothing beats Linux on the console, until you get to less than 4 or 8 MB, in which case I'd start looking into older unixes or linuxes, and at less than 2 MB, DOS is really the only "modern" option.
[02:14] <wickedpuppy> DoS ... LOL
[02:14] <Arafangion> Hhhhh: Might also look into running Debian Potato instead.
[02:14] <nickrud> edge, you cannot change the permissions on a vfat partition; you can set psuedo permissions, look at uid and gid in man mount
[02:14] <eedge> I can chmod on command line.
[02:14] <eedge> no error.
[02:14] <eedge> but it doesn't change.
[02:14] <makno> hello
[02:14] <nickrud> eedge, and, umask
[02:15] <Arafangion> Hhhhh: Debian potato uses Kernel 2.2, btw.
[02:15] <eedge> umask?
[02:15] <Arafangion> eedge: User MASK.
[02:16] <SAM_theman> ok
[02:16] <SAM_theman> my computer froze
[02:16] <rockviech> how can i see fps on glxgears?
[02:16] <SAM_theman> now i am doing a fresh install of ubuntu
[02:16] <rockviech> what do i have to press?
[02:16] <Arafangion> rockviech: Run it in the console.
[02:16] <ompaul> SAM_theman, access to a second machine?
[02:16] <mustard5> SAM_theman, ok
[02:16] <rockviech> and then?
[02:16] <rockviech> arafangion?
[02:16] <SAM_theman> i am on my dad comp machine
[02:16] <daan> is it possible to write on a windows partition in knoppix?
[02:16] <SAM_theman> hes running ubuntu 2
[02:16] <nickrud> eedge, sorry, got your nick wrong: you cannot change the permissions on a vfat partition; you can set psuedo permissions, look at uid and gid in man mount (and umask)
[02:16] <Arafangion> rockviech: Well, can't remember(!) :)
[02:16] <eedge> whats a user mask :S
[02:16] <rockviech> me either arafangion ^^
[02:17] <Arafangion> eedge: A umask of 022 sets a default permission of 755
[02:17] <egoleo>  
[02:18] <rob_p> rockviech:  Under Breezy, do, "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark" and it should give you fps.
[02:18] <Arafangion> eedge: Think of it as a 'mask', that goes on top of '777', and chopps it up, into '755'
[02:18] <flogiston> Hi, why does synaptic want to update KDE basemodule? Im only running Gnome.
[02:18] <makno> guys i'm trying to install ubuntu but seems he got a problem to ceae the partitions on the drie
[02:18] <makno> drive
[02:18] <SAM_theman> 79%
[02:18] <eedge> right..
[02:19] <makno> anyone can help me?
[02:19] <eNiAc> eedge, http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/#mountunmountfat
[02:19] <fm> hmm I still can't find how to burn my dual layer dvd ... I have a 7GB DVD iso, how can I split it in order to burn it on 2 4,7GB dvds ?
[02:19] <Arafangion> G'night dudes.
[02:19] <SAM_theman> man
[02:19] <mustard5> makno, is it a dual boot install ?
[02:19] <SAM_theman> will i am on my dads comp...
[02:20] <SAM_theman> was supposed to be on mine
[02:20] <makno> mustard nope, the hd is clean
[02:20] <nickrud> eedge, the fundamental point is that vfat does not support permissions per file, only on the whole partition, and can only be set when you mount the partition. That's why you cannot alter them.
[02:20] <SAM_theman> but ubuntu on my comp crapped out
[02:20] <mustard5> makno, what is the problem with setting up partitions?
[02:20] <makno> it says tha he cannot create the file system
[02:20] <rockviech> works, rob_p 10.000fps XD
[02:21] <mustard5> makno, what type of filesystem was it?
[02:21] <makno> fat32
[02:21] <rob_p> rockviech:  Better than mine... I only get 1600 or so.
[02:21] <mustard5> makno, hmmm..strange
[02:21] <Arafangion> rockviech: glxgears and the like are almost only used to check to see if you have 3D hardware accel or not, not how good it is.
[02:21] <eedge> right... but how do I set the permissions in fstab?
[02:22] <eedge> I think I could do it with the mount command now.
[02:22] <nickrud> eedge, what was your fstab line again?
[02:22] <rockviech> arafangion, well but in suse i had only 3000, now in ubuntu its 3 times more, thats why im happy
[02:22] <mustard5> makno, you got a live CD?
[02:22] <Arafangion> What, isn't '.' a decimal point?
[02:22] <makno> nope
[02:22] <ACSpike> Is anyone aware of an ubuntu subproject with an audio production emphasis?
[02:22] <makno> well hang on, what's that?
[02:22] <eedge> ooh, I need umask=000  don't I :)
[02:23] <mustard5> makno, its a cd that you can boot up and run ubuntu with without actualling installing
[02:23] <nickrud> eedge, :-)
[02:23] <Arafangion> In that case,  10.000fps is TEN frames a second!
[02:23] <makno> uhm nope then i only have the iso
[02:23] <makno> where can i get that one?
[02:23] <mustard5> makno, can you get the liveCD iso?
[02:23] <rob_p> rockviech:  You can think of glxgears fps as a relative measurement and it's still somewhat useful.
[02:23] <mustard5> makno and burn an the ISO to CD?
[02:23] <makno> if i know where from bw is not a problem
[02:24] <fm> How can I split an ISO file in two ?
[02:24] <eedge> well, that makes sense... :)
[02:24] <mustard5> makno, I am suggesting that you run the liveCD and check the drive from there
[02:24] <eedge> once saved changes to fstab how do I refresh the mountage?
[02:24] <makno> mustard where do i get the live cd from?
[02:25] <rockviech> ok
[02:26] <nickrud> eedge, umount the partition, then mount it
[02:26] <angelo_> elo
[02:26] <kyncani> eedge: mount -a will mount all non-mounted partitions. For the others, mount -o remount.
[02:27] <Stormx2> hi
[02:27] <eedge> thanks
[02:27] <eedge> what is the command to unmount btw?
[02:27] <linkd_> umount
[02:28] <egoleo> can someone show me how to set my ubuntu as a router
[02:29] <Boobek> hi:] 
[02:29] <rob_p> egoleo:  As in providing NAT service to another PC, LAN, etc?
[02:29] <egoleo> yes
[02:29] <egoleo> yes as a NAT
[02:29] <rob_p> egoleo:  View this howto -->  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/12/27/
[02:30] <eedge> I think I'll just have to wait till I restart, because the drives in use :P
[02:30] <eedge> lol
[02:30] <egoleo> ok
[02:30] <egoleo> thnx
[02:30] <rob_p> egoleo:  It covers everything you need to set up basic NAT and also provides a neat little NAT routing script for Ubuntu.
[02:31] <egoleo> ok
[02:31] <egoleo> thnx
[02:31] <smi|e> 'ello
[02:31] <rob_p> egoleo:  You're welcome!
[02:32] <egoleo> yeah
[02:32] <fm> does anyone know how to burn a dual layer dvd on two 4,7GB dvds ?
[02:32] <niekniek> hello!
[02:32] <niekniek> i have a question
[02:32] <fm> hi
[02:33] <niekniek> i use sshfs to mount a remote filesystem
[02:33] <niekniek> so far no problem
[02:33] <niekniek> but now i wan't to be able to access this remote mounted filesystem through smb
[02:34] <niekniek> as soon as i mount the share with sshfs it disappeares in the samba share
[02:34] <niekniek> any idea's??
[02:34] <niekniek> or a channel i might go to?
[02:34] <smi|e> niekniek: please do not flood, im sure if someone could help, they would, try later
[02:34] <gibarian> hello everyone...I set up Samba, in  order to get an XP machine to print to my Kubuntu machine, now my whole printer settings are borked, so far as that I'm unable to print even from the Kubuntu system
[02:34] <smi|e> or hang around a bit
[02:34] <qos> can somebody take a look at my own daemon start script fo mldonkey? http://pastebin.com/418175, there is an error in line 32: start-stop-daemon: command not found
[02:35] <smi|e> qos please don't paste raw address's here :) thanks
[02:35] <niekniek> smi|e: do you see my flooding??
[02:35] <smi|e> niekniek: yes
[02:35] <qos> raw addresses?
[02:35] <smi|e> qos whats the problem?
[02:35] <niekniek> i just posted my problem... that's all
[02:35] <egoleo> anyone know abt interreal
[02:35] <erik__> hi. anyone have any idea how to install ati-drivers with 3d hardware acceleration?
[02:36] <qos> there is an error in line 32 ... ^^
[02:36] <smi|e> qos ok ;)
[02:36] <ken_> anyone figure out to add outside packages off web to ubuntu yet?
[02:36] <linkd> ken_: what do u mean outside packages? you mean unoffical repositories?
[02:37] <smi|e> ken_: explain
[02:37] <ompaul> ken_, you need to define what you mean by that
[02:37] <ompaul> !tell erik__  about ati
[02:38] <ompaul> erik__, I don't know if the info that ubotu will help but it should
[02:38] <linkd> qos: try typing start-stop-daemon --help    in a shell. does it work?
[02:38] <ken_> i guess new to linux want to set up a webserver using webmin and a chat program called the palace so i can host palaces at $30 a apalace
[02:39] <bloodnik> I've got an unstable laptop and it locked up, which screwed up the fs, so when I boot up now it says to enter root password or Ctrl-D to reboot, because I have to run fsck manually.
[02:39] <qos> i can type it in a terminal ...
[02:39] <erik__> thanks ompaul, i'll try :)
[02:39] <bloodnik> Only, there is no root password because that's Ubuntu for you
[02:39] <bloodnik> So I have to reboot.
[02:39] <linkd> qos: so it works? but says it cannot find it?
[02:39] <bloodnik> Does the same in recovery mode too.
[02:39] <ompaul> bloodnik, use your own password
[02:39] <linkd> (the script says it cannot find it)
[02:39] <bloodnik> o rly? brb then
[02:39] <qos> normally it works ... samba is starting the same way
[02:40] <idling> bbiab
[02:40] <ompaul> bloodnik, did you add a root password?
[02:40] <linkd> qos: is /opt/mldonkey-2.6.7/mlnet the correct path?
[02:40] <qos> only in my script it seems to be missing
[02:40] <bmk789> annyone use ext2resize?
[02:40] <qos> yeah, path to the binary
[02:40] <nickrud> qos, I think you've messed up the PATH
[02:41] <linkd> thats what i was thinking (the PATH)
[02:41] <nickrud> qos, try PATH=$PATH:(path to mldonkey)
[02:41] <ken_> any anwsers i've tried so many linux flavors now most only have a command line ubuntu i thought would be best to learn really trying to give linux a chance to prove me wrong
[02:41] <linkd> qos: try chaging start-stop-daemon to its literal location on ur system
[02:42] <rob_p> qos:  Either that or simply define, "start-stop-daemon" in the script.
[02:42] <linkd> like /sbin/start-stop-daemon   or whatnot
[02:42] <linkd> anyway i gotta get a bus to my home town. later.
[02:42] <bloodnik> ompaul: login incorrect
[02:42] <linkd> hope ya sort t
[02:42] <linkd> it
[02:42] <ompaul> bloodnik, did you add a root password?
[02:42] <bloodnik> No, never.
[02:42] <qos> thats my path to mldonkey... i compiled it there and i can it satrt via sudo /opt/mldonkey-2.6.7/mlnet
[02:42] <bloodnik> Always used sudo
[02:42] <bloodnik> I thought there was a whole philosophy of never having a root account
[02:43] <ompaul> bloodnik, there is
[02:43] <nickrud> qos, but, by setting the PATH the way you have, start-stop-deamon is no longer on the path :)
[02:43] <niekniek> hello! i have a question. i use sshfs to mount a remote filesystem. so far no problem. but now i wan't to be able to access this remote mounted filesystem through smb. as soon as i mount the share with sshfs it disappeares in the samba share.
[02:43] <bloodnik> So I don't have a root account, and I can't get it to start up in single-user mode.
[02:43] <dex2> hi, i have a problem with v4l + my tv card. i have compiled a new kernel 2.6.14 using the .config of my old 2.6.13. now my tv-card does not work. should i do more than copying the old .config?
[02:43] <ompaul> bloodnik, okay so you reboot the box and it gives out about a root password - that looks like a root password to me  - anyway let me get you the answer
[02:43] <ken_> need to know if thiers an automated installer or a command line installer for other linux software were you can d/l programs from web then install on ubuntu or should i go back to microsoft xp
[02:44] <bloodnik> ompaul: don't worry about it. I might as well grab a copy of DSL and use that.
[02:44] <linkd> ken_: you mean... apt-get install <package? o0
[02:44] <ompaul> bloodnik, there is a quick solution ~I just need syntax for you
[02:44] <trm> does breezy still not come out with the minimum required codecs to actually do anything ?
[02:44] <qos> nickrud, thx... seems that the var PATH stands for an system internal var ... i didnt know that ;)
[02:44] <bloodnik> OK, I'll hang around. It would be nice to know.
[02:44] <ken_> something like that
[02:45] <ken_> terminal server does'nt work
[02:45] <erik__> how do i check my kernelversion?
[02:45] <linkd> ken_: well apt is debians package management system. and ubuntu is based on debian.
[02:45] <linkd> erik__: uname -r
[02:45] <nickrud> qos, env | sort will show you a bunch of preset environment variables
[02:45] <ken_> i know
[02:45] <qos> ahh, thx
[02:45] <trm> ken_,  are you connecting to a windows terminal server ?
[02:46] <ken_> linux
[02:46] <nickrud> ken_, sudo dpkg -i <package> will install a stray deb, use at your own risk with unsigned packages
[02:46] <ahoora> hi
[02:46] <ahoora> can some one help me to fully uninstall g++
[02:46] <ahoora> ?
[02:46] <smi|e> how do i get into my folders on kde?
[02:46] <smi|e> theres no "places" icon
[02:46] <trm> anyone know why vlc wont open a disc when I want to play a dvd
[02:46] <ken_> where do i find command line to do this
[02:47] <ahoora> can some one help me to fully uninstall g++ ? plz
[02:47] <nickrud> applications->system tools->terminal, keikoz
[02:47] <nickrud> applications->system tools->terminal, ken_
[02:47] <nickrud> sorry keikoz
[02:47] <ompaul> bloodnik, it is in log files just a min they are huge but I will find it
[02:47] <ken_> tried terminal will open package but not install it
[02:48] <trm> how do I install codecs for vlc ?
[02:48] <nickrud> ken_, then, read the errors; the package may require some other packages to be installed first.
[02:48] <poningru> !win32codecs
[02:48] <ubotu> poningru: I haven't a clue
[02:48] <poningru> !codecs
[02:48] <ubotu> codecs is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:49] <maikeru> [Away]  Reading Matter of Opinion [ http://amatterofopinion.blogspot.com/ ] 
[02:49] <trm> does that apply to breezy too ?
[02:49] <daan> is it possible to write on windows partitions using knoppix?
[02:49] <ken_> no errors just runs setup but does not write program to hardrive
[02:50] <mushtaq> hi i am trying to use skype but i cannot use my mic
[02:50] <mushtaq> can anyone help me on this ?
[02:50] <obontu> hello, is there a way to recover lost data in ubuntu?
[02:50] <SAM_theman> back people
[02:50] <mushtaq> sound is working fine with other application
[02:50] <SAM_theman> now i am on My Computer
[02:50] <SAM_theman> A fresh installation of ubuntu
[02:50] <SAM_theman> i am updating it now
[02:50] <SAM_theman> 12 of 14
[02:50] <ken_> data recovery system if u can install one
[02:51] <obontu> any free ones?
[02:51] <mushtaq> can anyone help me with skype ?
[02:51] <ken_> u can d/l trial 30 versions
[02:51] <SAM_theman> i have it
[02:51] <SAM_theman> not installed but a account
[02:51] <ken_> how to install i not learned yet
[02:51] <SAM_theman> was on it last nite
[02:51] <obontu> can they recover anything?
[02:51] <SAM_theman> get the .rpm one
[02:51] <obontu> isn't there any freeware stuff?
[02:52] <SAM_theman> yup
[02:52] <SAM_theman> games or just other stuff
[02:52] <niekniek> hello! i have a question. i use sshfs to mount a remote filesystem. so far no problem. but now i wan't to be able to access this remote mounted filesystem through smb. as soon as i mount the share with sshfs it disappeares in the samba share.
[02:52] <ken_> ones for windows will recover everything since the 1st day u started the pc not sure about linux
[02:53] <ken_> hardrive can even be dead and placed into another pc
[02:53] <foampeace> maybe its cause of windows
[02:54] <SAM_theman> hey guy i forgot the info you sent me about how to install my nvidia driver
[02:54] <SAM_theman> can u send me again
[02:54] <mustard5> !nvidia
[02:54] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:54] <SAM_theman> thanks
[02:54] <ahoora> can some one help me to fully uninstall g++ ? plz
[02:54] <mustard5> SAM_theman, try the first URL first
[02:55] <SAM_theman> o ok
[02:55] <ken_> i'm trying to install webmin from www.webmin.com and pserver from practice.chatserve.com any suggestions besides terminal
[02:57] <foampeace> how do i install java in friefoxs
[02:57] <elkbuntu> ken_ webmin is in the repos
[02:57] <selinium_> Hi all, is there a command line for mailing?
[02:57] <mustard5> !javadeb
[02:57] <ubotu> [javadeb]  for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[02:57] <obontu> no undeleye or something?
[02:57] <ken_> it is under what?
[02:57] <SAM_theman> so in ubuntu we don'
[02:57] <SAM_theman> so in ubuntu we don't use yum?
[02:57] <mustard5> SAM_theman, no
[02:58] <dooglus> selinium_: "mail" works on the command line
[02:58] <mustard5> SAM_theman, apt-get
[02:58] <egoleo> what is FORWORD_HOST
[02:58] <SAM_theman> o ok
[02:58] <SAM_theman> heheeh
[02:58] <mustard5> !apt-get
[02:58] <ubotu> well, apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[02:58] <foampeace> which java file?
[02:58] <ompaul> bloodnik, just a moment, almost there
[02:58] <SAM_theman> yeah i know how to use it
[02:58] <foampeace> fore breezy?
[02:58] <mustard5> faompeace sunjre1.5 is it?
[02:58] <SAM_theman> i used it on Fedora Core 4
[02:59] <elkbuntu> ken_, try this: sudo apt-get webmin
[02:59] <rob_p> egoleo:  Are you referring to the config file for ubuntu-ICS?
[02:59] <nickrud> ken_, search for webmin: apt-cache policy webmin    If it says no candidate, then you need to add repositories
[02:59] <selinium_> dooglus: cheers, I will give it a go! :)
[02:59] <mustard5> foampeace, not the sdk one
[02:59] <egoleo> yes
[02:59] <foampeace> mustard5: ok yep thanks
[02:59] <dooglus> elkbuntu: "sudo apt-get install webmin" you mean
[02:59] <egoleo> rob yes
[02:59] <elkbuntu> uh yes
[02:59] <foampeace> jre
[02:59] <egoleo> can explain some things to me
[02:59] <elkbuntu> i always forget the install
[02:59] <elkbuntu> i tend to use synaptic more
[03:00] <dooglus> egoleo: sure.  have you ever noticed how more bees come out of the hive than go in?
[03:00] <Cotton2> can anyone explain why hwclock reports 13:59 GMT in a terminal but reports 08:59 EST in an X terminal window?  (btw The first is the correct time)
[03:00] <egoleo> yes
[03:00] <rob_p> egoleo:  That is an internal host that you can specify which will receive inbound connections to ports specified by FORWARD_TCP_PORTS and FORWARD_TCP_PORTS.
[03:00] <ahoora> can someone help me to fix my broken files?
[03:00] <SAM_theman> all my gamer friends use Ubuntu
[03:01] <elkbuntu> im fairly sure its in the default repos
[03:01] <mushtaq> any skype user ?
[03:01] <SAM_theman> me
[03:01] <rob_p> egoleo:  I meant, "FORWARD_UDP_PORTS" for the second one :-)
[03:01] <egoleo> so is that suppose to be my public IP
[03:01] <SAM_theman> my screen name is SAM_theman2005
[03:01] <mustard5> mushtaq, puts hand up
[03:01] <ken_> were do i find terminal server?
[03:01] <ahoora> i want to fix this g++
[03:01] <egoleo> or what
[03:01] <mushtaq> mustard5, i dont know
[03:01] <SAM_theman> don't have it installed yet
[03:01] <SAM_theman> wait
[03:01] <mushtaq> mustard5, do you know how to setup mic in ubuntu ?
[03:01] <mustard5> !skype
[03:01] <ubotu> [skype]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:02] <rob_p> egoleo:  No.  The config file is very well commented.  Read it!
[03:02] <mustard5> mushtaq i suppose
[03:02] <SAM_theman> they have skype FOR ubuntu???
[03:02] <egoleo> ok
[03:02] <mushtaq> mustard5, can you guide me about it
[03:02] <mushtaq> i cannot hear the sound when i make a call in  skype
[03:02] <mustard5> mushtaq, oh a how to sorry, I misread you question
[03:02] <mushtaq> and i cannot use my mic how to configure just guide me
[03:02] <SAM_theman> Cannot launch entry
[03:02] <SAM_theman> Details: Failed to execute child process "gnome-terminal" (No such file or directory)
[03:02] <SAM_theman> WTF???
[03:03] <egoleo> but i can see FORWORD_HOST="192.168.1.10"
[03:03] <egoleo> so whats that
[03:03] <mustard5> mushtaq, you double click on the volume icon in your top right hand corner
[03:03] <SAM_theman> what the fuk??
[03:03] <SAM_theman> again????
[03:03] <mustard5> mushtaq, and go to the capture tab
[03:03] <mushtaq> mustard5, ok
[03:03] <rob_p> egoleo:  That is an example!  See the commented out "#" mark in front of it?
[03:03] <mushtaq> mustard5, i diud
[03:03] <mushtaq> mustard5, i did
[03:03] <SAM_theman> Cannot connect to server
[03:03] <SAM_theman> Details: Failed to execute child process "nautilus-connect-server" (No such file or directory)?
[03:03] <mustard5> mushtaq, unmute the mic and turn the volume up
[03:04] <SAM_theman> what the hell is going on
[03:04] <cjames> hi!
[03:04] <mushtaq> mustard5, i have unmuted and make it full
[03:04] <egoleo> yeah
[03:04] <mustard5> mushtaq, don't run any other sound devices with skype either
[03:04] <egoleo> so that is why i am asking from the example given
[03:04] <mustard5> mushtaq, full is probably too much, but you can adjust it later
[03:04] <boci^> LOOOOOOL
[03:04] <SAM_theman> Guys!!
[03:04] <cjames> haha
[03:05] <rob_p> egoleo:  By convention, any lines that are blank, or begin with, "#" are ignored or treated as comments!
[03:05] <boci^> If I want to install php4-pear It's want to install php5
[03:05] <SAM_theman> whats going on..
[03:05] <boci^> Bruhahahahaha
[03:05] <mushtaq> mustard5, what other devices you mean ?
[03:05] <egoleo> ok
[03:05] <ken_> found webmin in repository tried in terminal to install using sudo apt get webmin got error invalid operation
[03:05] <boci^> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[03:05] <boci^>   php-db php-http php-mail php-net-smtp php-net-socket php-pear php-xml-parser php4-pear php5-cli php5-common
[03:05] <mustard5> mushtaq, no mp3 players, no esd processes running in the background
[03:05] <mushtaq> i am using gaim
[03:05] <mustard5> mushtaq, nothing that uses sound
[03:05] <mushtaq> ok
[03:06] <mustard5> mushtaq, skype hates sharing :)
[03:06] <mushtaq> wait
[03:06] <mushtaq> ok
[03:06] <mushtaq> mustard5, wait a second please
[03:06] <mustard5> yep
[03:06] <rob_p> egoleo:  As it says in the comments for that section of the config file, 192.168.1.10 would be the host you want to forward inbound connections to.  Make sense?
[03:06] <SAM_theman> brb
[03:06] <egoleo> not really
[03:06] <mustard5> mushtaq, when you start up skype you can check your mic by adding Echo123 to your contacts btw
[03:07] <rob_p> egoleo:  Do you not understand the concept of port forwarding in regards to NAT?
[03:07] <mushtaq> mustard5, just a second
[03:07] <mustard5> k
[03:07] <egoleo> no
[03:07] <boci^> why depend to php5?
[03:07] <egoleo> i am green eh
[03:07] <mushtaq> mustard5, do you think this Xchat uses sound ?
[03:08] <mustard5> no
[03:08] <mustard5> you should be right
[03:08] <rob_p> egoleo:  I see.  No problem.  Let me ask you this.  Are you planning on any of the internal hosts that will be served by the NAT box, providing any services to the public?
[03:08] <maikeru> Back from: Reading Matter of Opinion - http://amatterofopinion.blogspot.com/
[03:09] <mustard5> skype will tell you that another sound device is running if it clashes with something
[03:09] <mushtaq> mustard5, but it never say so
[03:09] <rob_p> egoleo:  In other words, are you planning on any internal boxes being accessible from the 'Net?
[03:09] <Blake_Seven> Hi all
[03:09] <mushtaq> mustard5, even it is running now i just close
[03:09] <mustard5> mushtaq, add Echo123 to your contacts
[03:09] <Blake_Seven> How do I set a static ip and gateway from the command line ?
[03:09] <ompaul> bloodnik, could not find what I wanted but I got this from the web seems to be the same thing, but not sure if it is the same as what I wanted, but it _looks_ right
[03:10] <egoleo> i am connected to a lan
[03:10] <mustard5> mushtaq, its a test channel
[03:10] <egoleo> which i have manage to grab an ip for myself
[03:10] <egoleo> but those ips are generated by a dhcp
[03:10] <BooZee> can I change the charset gvim uses?
[03:10] <mushtaq> mustard5, it says connecting
[03:10] <jhe-punk> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[03:10] <rob_p> egoleo:  What exactly do you want to accomplish with setting up a NAT routing linux box?
[03:11] <bloodnik> ompaul: still here...
[03:11] <mustard5> mushtaq, also check the simple stuff..like is the mic in the right port at that back,,is the mic switch on
[03:11] <ompaul> bloodnik, for getting into that you can press esc as the machine boots and then choose the top line in your grub config and press e to edit after that your in the
[03:11] <ompaul> bloodnik, clear http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3886#post3886
[03:11] <egoleo> i want to set my system up as a router
[03:11] <mushtaq> mustard5, it is working with windows
[03:11] <mustard5> k
[03:11] <mushtaq> mustard5, it is working with windows/skype
[03:11] <mustard5> thats good then
[03:12] <nekostar> meh
[03:12] <mushtaq> mustard5, it is not working with linux/skype
[03:12] <BooZee> how do I change "gvim"s charset?
[03:12] <nekostar> i need to talk to the person who designed this bittorrent client for ubuntu
[03:12] <mustard5> mushtaq, type ps -e | grep esd in terminal and see if esd is running
[03:12] <nekostar> b/c they did a really really really bad job of it
[03:12] <rob_p> egoleo:  For multiple hosts to access the Internet I presume?
[03:12] <bloodnik> ompaul: cheers, I'll give that a go.
[03:13] <nekostar> anyone know who to email?
[03:13] <ompaul> bloodnik, enjoy
[03:13] <mushtaq> mustard5, 7190 ?        00:00:01 esd
[03:13] <gcj> hi all, anyone seen panics in dev_deactivate at bootup with a handbuilt kernel (linux-tree-2.6.12)?
[03:13] <jhe-punk> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[03:13] <lee> breezy has a very cool loading screen...
[03:13] <mustard5> type killall esd in terminal
[03:14] <foampeace> lee: yes it does
[03:14] <mushtaq> mustard5, hey great man it worked
[03:14] <PJeremy> mmh no azureus in the repos? wasn't it in the hoary repos?
[03:14] <foampeace> lee: its better then that other os
[03:14] <mushtaq> mustard5, thanks a lot man
[03:14] <mushtaq> mustard5, what is this esd ?
[03:14] <mustard5> mushtaq, good work..have fun :)
[03:14] <jhe-punk> I miss you
[03:15] <mustard5> mushtaq, I forget what it stands for ...hehehe
[03:15] <bigfoot1> how do i delete all stuff in my calendar in evo2?
[03:15] <mushtaq> mustard5, is it sound ?
[03:15] <ahoora> " dpkg: status database area is locked by another process "  how can i get rid of this?
[03:15] <mustard5> yep
[03:15] <foampeace> ubuntu has a nice gdm and the gdm thmese are cool
[03:15] <deFrysk> ahoora, shut down synaptic
[03:15] <mustard5> mushtaq, look in your system>>preferences>>multimedia selector
[03:15] <gcj> also, anyone know why breezy installs rhythmbox but not gstreamer0.8-mad by default? means it can't play MP3s which is kind of annoying
[03:15] <foampeace> you can downloaod cool gdm themes
[03:15] <jhe-punk> missssss yoooouuuuuu/////
[03:16] <mustard5> mushtaq, you might trying changing both sound settings to ALSA
[03:16] <ken_> kk tried synaptic package manager shows webmin but can't it to intall from terminal and does'nt show up in repository when scrolling list
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> ken_, what you typed and what error you got ... pls be specific
[03:16] <ahoora> deFrysk  how?
[03:16] <ken_> no errors
[03:16] <jhe-punk> lo tau gak si gue tu pgn kissing lalala
[03:17] <bloodnik> ompaul: woot, fscking.
[03:17] <niekniek> hello! i have a question. i use sshfs to mount a remote filesystem. so far no problem. but now i wan't to be able to access this remote mounted filesystem through smb. as soon as i mount the share with sshfs it disappeares in the samba share.
[03:17] <wickedpuppy> ken_, then what you typed ? no error ?
[03:17] <bloodnik> Seems a bit insecure that you can get to root so easily, but I guess you'd password grub
[03:17] <ken_> got error when i tried tried sudo apt said invalid operation from terminal
[03:17] <deFrysk> ahoora, you are trying to run apt-get with the package manager open close your packagemanager (synaptic)
[03:17] <bloodnik> bai now
[03:18] <thrush> niekniek: yes
[03:18] <bigfoot1> to evolution users: tell me how to clean my calendar of all data
[03:18] <egoleo> so how do i remove the ubuntu-ics
[03:18] <niekniek> trush: are you maybe able to tell me what causes that behaviour?
[03:18] <rob_p> egoleo:  Well anyway, the how-to and the script will get you up and running with a basic NAT routing Ubuntu box.
[03:18] <ken_> tried wget off webpage it downloads but when i try install package name source destination just goes back to command line no error
[03:19] <jhe-punk> +w jhe-punk
[03:19] <bigfoot1> why is there "weather" on my left hand pane in evolution?
[03:19] <egoleo> when i start it
[03:19] <egoleo> i get this error
[03:19] <jhe-punk> -w jhe-punk
[03:19] <wickedpuppy> ken_, can you pastebin to us what you typed and when there is no error ???
[03:19] <ahoora> deFrysk thanks i was using apt-get with dselect :">
[03:19] <thrush> niekniek: boss coming
[03:19] <egoleo> eth1: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[03:19] <egoleo> Internal Interface IP address could NOT be detected.  NAT disabled!
[03:19] <jhe-punk> +i jhe-punk
[03:20] <sktrdie> I never figured out what the hell is gstreamer?
[03:20] <rob_p> egoleo:  Yes.  You need to configure it!
[03:20] <deFrysk> ahoora, ok :)
[03:20] <rob_p> egoleo:  The config file itself...
[03:20] <ken_> can't seem to copy or paste don't seem to have that option
[03:20] <wickedpuppy> ken_, highlight .. right click ...copy
[03:20] <egoleo> which config file
[03:20] <wickedpuppy> and don't paste here
[03:21] <joaquinz> hi
[03:21] <rob_p> egoleo:  Do you even have more than one network interface on your Ubuntu box?
[03:21] <joaquinz> how is it called now the unstable release?
[03:21] <ken_> did no copy thier thats same as windows
[03:21] <egoleo> no
[03:21] <rob_p> egoleo:  Ok.  Stop there!
[03:21] <joaquinz> because breezy is now stable and i want to use the unstable flavor :)
[03:21] <wickedpuppy> ken_, did you highlight and copy ?
[03:21] <jhe-punk> jhe-punk
[03:21] <rob_p> egoleo:  You need 2 interfaces!
[03:21] <egoleo> ok
[03:21] <ken_> i can highlight but can't copy
[03:22] <rob_p> egoleo:  If you want help removing ubuntu-ICS, let me know.
[03:22] <egoleo> yes
[03:22] <wickedpuppy> ken_, how are you trying to copy ?
[03:22] <egoleo> i want to remove it
[03:22] <niekniek> thrush-hiding: haha, i hope he will leave, nobody seems to know what's going on
[03:22] <egoleo> but i will try firestarter
[03:22] <ken_> hightlight then right click
[03:22] <Jelte> hiya, i got lm-sensors to work on breezy, but it returns (different) temperatures for CPU (Intel) and CPU (AMD). .... why is that?  I only have one (AMD) CPU in my box :-)
[03:22] <jhe-punk> Do you know what i mean??????
[03:22] <wickedpuppy> ken_, then? you should get copy option ... click on it
[03:22] <egoleo> i want to remove ics
[03:22] <wickedpuppy> ken_, then paste it on the pastbin website
[03:23] <rob_p> egoleo:  Ok.  At the command prompt, type, "sudo update-rc.d -f ubuntu-ICS remove" and let me know when you've done that.
[03:23] <vorpulus> mustard are you there?
[03:24] <sktrdie> can you guys help me understand what is gstreamer? and  do I really need it?
[03:24] <ken_> see all kinds of things but no copy
[03:24] <egoleo> i have done it rob_p
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> sktrdie, google ? ...
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> ken_, tell me what you see ?
[03:24] <egoleo> so what next
[03:25] <vorpulus> does anyone know the command for viewing network settings in terminal? I think it's something like netstat r
[03:25] <vorpulus> in fact that might even be it..
[03:25] <demios> my (debian) laptop refuses to boot from the hard disk. i ripped out the hard disk and booted from the ubuntu live cd, and can access the disk fine with a usb cable. e2fsck doesn't find anything wrong with the disk. how can i check that the boot sector hasn't been corrupted/reinstall the boot sector, which was created by lilo?
[03:25] <rob_p> egoleo:  Ok.  Any errors?  If not, then all you have left to do is remove /etc/default/ubuntu-ICS-cfg and /etc/init.d/ubuntu-ICS.
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> vorpulus, why don't ya try it ? :P
[03:25] <vorpulus> well it's weird, it didn't come to me until I wanted to describe it in here
[03:25] <egoleo> manually?
[03:26] <vorpulus> but I'm not sure if it is that, because it looked different last time I did it
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> vorpulus, tell us what you want to see ?
[03:26] <rob_p> egoleo:  Someday, I'll write an uninstall script to go along with it.  Until then, yes.  Manually!
[03:26] <n0odl3> how do i set vlc as my default player?
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> network setting ... such as ?
[03:26] <gcj> demios: mount your debian system, chroot into it, and run lilo again
[03:26] <egoleo> ok
[03:26] <gcj> demios: that will rewrite the boot sector
[03:26] <egoleo> thnx
[03:26] <egoleo> so much
[03:26] <vorpulus> well I want to find my http thing for synaptic
[03:26] <qos> i want to start a process in a special groupcontext? how can i do this?
[03:27] <rob_p> egoleo:  ... as in, "sudo rm /etc/default/ubuntu-ICS-cfg" and "sudo rm /etc/init.d/ubuntu-ICS"
[03:27] <demios> gcj: my only worry is that the disk is now sda, not hda. won't that screw lilo up?
[03:27] <ahoora> hey guys how can i uninstall g++ with all its libs?
[03:27] <vorpulus> mustard5 found it for me yesterday. In fact he solved the whole problem, but I had to reinstall linux because it didn't start up properly
[03:27] <vorpulus> so now I need to do it again
[03:27] <gcj> demios: are you using SATA?
[03:27] <To_kenizer> if a manufacturer, makes an update for BIOS that's a file make to work with WinFlash, how can a linux user update their bios?
[03:27] <demios> gcj: i don't know. how do i find out?
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> vorpulus, tell us what is it that you are looking for ?
[03:27] <gcj> demios: besides you can't boot it now, how could it be worse?
[03:27] <codeprophet> He connects it through USB
[03:27] <demios> gcj: :P
[03:28] <codeprophet> USB-drives maps as sd*-devs
[03:28] <demios> gcj: if i have two problems then i may never figure out the real cause...
[03:28] <vorpulus> wickedpuppy, my HTTP proxy
[03:28] <gcj> demios: why is your hard disk changing from HDA to SDA? they don't normally do that by themselves :-)
[03:28] <ken_> kk i do this 1st wget  http://practice.chatserve.com/extras/pserver-4.5.1.i686-unknown-linux.tar.gz
[03:28] <rob_p> egoleo:  Once you've removed those files, let me know.  There's one last thing to check.
[03:28] <n0odl3> doesa anyone know?
[03:28] <demios> gcj: because i pulled it out of the laptop so that i could boot something
[03:28] <codeprophet> gcj: he connects it through usb externally..
[03:28] <mustard5> vorpulus, hey  :)
[03:28] <gcj> ahh i see
[03:28] <ken_> it d/ls i'm goin thru the process again
[03:28] <wickedpuppy> vorpulus, system -> preference -> network proxy ?
[03:28] <Nihil85> hello everybody!
[03:28] <vorpulus> mustard5! Hello! My comp didn't start up properly this morning :(
[03:28] <wickedpuppy> vorpulus, mustard5 is here as well ... :P
[03:28] <egoleo> ok
[03:29] <rohan> rohan   ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL  [03:29] <egoleo> i have done that
[03:29] <gcj> demios: i've had trouble with that in the past, you could try "bios=0x80" in the lilo.conf before running lilo
[03:29] <egoleo> so what next
[03:29] <vorpulus> yeah, I need to find out what the proxy is again
[03:29] <gcj> demios: that should force it to use the first IDE hard disk
[03:29] <mustard5> vorpulus, so I hear :)
[03:29] <gcj> demios: and change hda to sda in your lilo.conf
[03:29] <Chadza> !codecs
[03:29] <ubotu> I heard codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:29] <demios> gcj: hm
[03:29] <demios> gcj: i don't think my laptop can boot from the usb disk
[03:29] <ken_> so what would i type to install next
[03:30] <egoleo> i have finish with it
[03:30] <gcj> demi: i'm not asking it to :-)
[03:30] <egoleo> so what next
[03:30] <demios> gcj: oh
[03:30] <vorpulus> mustard5, when I started up my computer this morning, there was a white box below the username and password boxes, which shouldn't have come up on the same screen anyway. When I was typing my username and password into the boxes, the letters randomly went into the box at the bottom
[03:30] <rob_p> egoleo:  Ok.  Do a, "cat /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks" and see if there's a reference to ubuntu-ICS.
[03:30] <codeprophet> gcj: you don't.. That makes lilo try and boot from HDA, which when you're done, will be the harddrive.
[03:30] <codeprophet> ^^
[03:30] <codeprophet> After you put it back in, of course.
[03:30] <mustard5> vorpulus, sounds very wierd :)
[03:30] <demios> codeprophet: isn't that what i want? :S
[03:30] <gcj> codeprophet, isn't that what we want?
[03:30] <vorpulus> mustard5, as usual. ;)
[03:30] <ken_> it does'nt write to hardrive using install command just goes back to command line
[03:30] <mustard5> vorpulus, you remember what we did yesterday?
[03:30] <sam__> Hello, how do I change permissions on the main home directory, it won't let me wright to the main one and I am the only acct on this oc
[03:31] <codeprophet> gcj: yes?
[03:31] <codeprophet> Of course.
[03:31] <vorpulus> yes sort of. I thought the command was netstat r
[03:31] <vorpulus> but that seems to produce something different
[03:31] <ahoora> codeprophet : do you know how can i reinstall g++ with all its libs completely?
[03:31] <mustard5> vorpulus, I can't remember the command we used to show active connections in terminal :)
[03:31] <codeprophet> Okay, that was scary. Both of you asked the same question at the same time.
[03:31] <gcj> hehe :-)
[03:31] <gcj> lag
[03:31] <codeprophet> ahoora: using ubuntu? apt-get remove then apt-get install :P
[03:31] <mustard5> vorpulus, ah good work :)
[03:31] <vorpulus> I don't think it is the right command, but it is a command!
[03:31] <rob_p> egoleo:  There probably will be.  If there's only one line and it's similar to, "/etc/init.d/ubuntu-firewall.sh reload", then you can simply delete the file.  Or you can open it in a text editor and delete that entry.  Your choice!
[03:31] <ahoora> codeprophet : but how can i find the name of the appropriate package?
[03:31] <mustard5> vorpulus, so you confident setting i tup?
[03:31] <codeprophet> ahoora: apt-cache search g++
[03:31] <egoleo> cat: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks.d: Is a directory
[03:31] <gcj> codeprophet, using the laptop to rewrite the boot sector in such a way that when the disk is put back in the original machine, it will boot from hda
[03:32] <codeprophet> *nods*
[03:32] <vorpulus> mustard5, nope - I think I've got the command wrong! Amazingly
[03:32] <codeprophet> Yeah I know.
[03:32] <gcj> demios, don't change "root=/dev/hdaX" though
[03:32] <gcj> demios, in the kernel command line
[03:32] <vorpulus> mustard5, but it is a command
[03:32] <qos> i want to start a process in a special groupcontext? how can i do this?
[03:32] <ahoora> codeprophet : more than 300 results :|
[03:32] <rob_p> egoleo:  Ok.  The dhclient-exit-hooks file is not installed.  You're done!
[03:32] <egoleo> this is the output
[03:32] <egoleo> ok
[03:32] <egoleo> thnx
[03:33] <mustard5> vorpulus, man netsat #for the manual
[03:33] <mustard5> man netstat
[03:33] <egoleo> but u will have to explain a lot of things to me eh
[03:33] <rob_p> egoleo:  No problem.  Take care.
[03:33] <egoleo> so are u always here
[03:33] <demios> gcj: is there no way of writing the boot sector out to a file and comparing the two? i a little scared of this
[03:33] <codeprophet> ahoora: heh, well, the package is g++ .. so just sudo apt-get install g++
[03:33] <demios> gcj: can't find bios= in the manpage
[03:33] <codeprophet> That'll include 5 other packages aswell. liv.
[03:33] <codeprophet> libs.
[03:33] <Whistler> what archive manager is ubuntu`s default?
[03:34] <gcj> demios, are you chrooted into your debian system when you run "man lilo"? maybe ubuntu lilo doesn't have that option
[03:34] <ahoora> codeprophet : i did it but it doesn't fix my libraries ... /usr/include/c++/...
[03:34] <demios> gcj: ah, no. not yet
[03:34] <egoleo> do u have some howtos for me?
[03:34] <_jason> Whistler:  file roller
[03:34] <codeprophet> ahoora: what's wrong with them?
[03:34] <rob_p> egoleo:  Are you sure you typed that last one correctly?  I could have sworn that my installer made a dhclient-exit-hooks file.
[03:34] <ahoora> codeprophet: i overwrited them with windows libs :(
[03:34] <egoleo> cat /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks.d
[03:35] <codeprophet> ahoora: ack. I see.
[03:35] <egoleo> that was the command i used
[03:35] <mustard5> whats the command switch for netstat to show all active connections on internet?
[03:35] <codeprophet> ahoora: try apt-get install libstdc++6
[03:35] <rob_p> egoleo:  Make sure you are trying to cat the file, not the directory (the directory has a, ".d" tacked on the end.
[03:35] <imc_> Having problems with tpconfig and synaptics; I cannot get my new breezy install to recognize properly my touchpad. Any ideas?
[03:35] <egoleo> bcos there is no file like what u gave me
[03:35] <vorpulus> mustard5, still looking
[03:35] <egoleo> ok
[03:35] <gcj> demios, also see man lilo.conf, bios= is described there
[03:35] <imc_> I installed tpconfig but how does one launch it?
[03:35] <rob_p> egoleo:  No.  You want, "cat /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks", not "cat /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks.d".
[03:36] <ken_> when trying to install by adding / mark before destination i get this error
[03:36] <egoleo> cat /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks
[03:36] <egoleo> cat: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks: No such file or directory
[03:36] <Chadza> !quicktime
[03:36] <ubotu> it has been said that quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support (via w32codecs), or see w32codecs
[03:36] <ken_> install: cannot create regular file `/home/pserver-4.5.1.i686-unknown-linux.tar.gz.1': Permission denied
[03:36] <mushtaq> hi is there any good tool like dreamweaver in linux to create website ?
[03:36] <ahoora> codeprophet: how do you find these names? lol
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> mushtaq, nvu
[03:36] <egoleo> cat /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks
[03:36] <imc_> !w32codecs
[03:36] <egoleo> cat: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks: No such file or directory
[03:36] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).
[03:36] <nickrud> mustard5, sudo netstat -tlpn is nice
[03:36] <rob_p> egoleo:  Ok then.  It really doesn't exist.  That's a bug in my installer script!  Thanks.
[03:36] <mushtaq> nvu ? is it free ?
[03:36] <mushtaq> wickedpuppy, nvu is free ? does it work with gnome ?
[03:37] <mustard5> thanks nickrud, I'm trying to deduce a proxy from the results
[03:37] <egoleo> ok
[03:37] <gcj> demios, pls make a backup of your lilo.conf before changing it, you will need to restore the old one when u get you rsystem back up again
[03:37] <ahoora> codeprophet: i have the same error message again
[03:37] <okeke> hello
[03:37] <egoleo> u welcome
[03:37] <rob_p> egoleo:  Again, you've now successfully removed ubuntu-ICS from your system.  Thanks for double-checking that for me.  :-)
[03:37] <gcj> demios, you can dump your boot sector with "dd if=/dev/sda count=1", but I don't know what you would compare it to
[03:37] <egoleo> :)
[03:37] <okeke> how far
[03:38] <vorpulus> my netstat -tlpn is 3 lines
[03:38] <ahoora> a lot of error messages one is : /usr/include/c++/3.3/i486-linux/bits/ctype_base.h:54: error: `_ISalnum' was not   declared in this scope
[03:38] <okeke> u from where
[03:38] <demios> gcj: sadly it's not in my lilo.conf
[03:38] <imc_> Once I install the w32codecs must I run gst-register?
[03:38] <egoleo> any howtos on all this routing linux box
[03:38] <mushtaq> wickedpuppy, nvu ???/wat is this
[03:38] <mushtaq> wickedpuppy, nvu ???i cannot search for it
[03:38] <gcj> demios, what's not there?
[03:38] <nickrud> mustard5, more power to you :)
[03:38] <imc_> Once I install the w32codecs must I run gst-register?
[03:38] <wickedpuppy> mushtaq, have you enabled universe and multiverse ?
[03:38] <demios> gcj: the comment explaining bios=
[03:38] <demios> gcj: in fact, there are hardly any comments :)
[03:39] <wickedpuppy> mushtaq, btw i can't remember nvu or nuv :P
[03:39] <nickrud> imc_, no, gstreamer does not use the w32codecs
[03:39] <imc_> Thanks
[03:39] <gcj> bummer, this client doesn't support a private window
[03:39] <ken_> guess i'll have to see if i can create a file and set permissions
[03:39] <mushtaq> wickedpuppy, i got it frm the website
[03:39] <mustard5> nickrud, I'll play with it a bit, as I'm not seeing destination addresss atm :)
[03:39] <mushtaq> wickedpuppy, it is nvu
[03:39] <ahoora> codeprophet: :( are you there?
[03:39] <mushtaq> wickedpuppy, thanks
[03:39] <freemanen> i have to hold in the fn key to write u i o in other case it write 4 5 6
[03:39] <wickedpuppy> mushtaq, no prob :P
[03:39] <joaquinz> hey!
[03:40] <freemanen> why?
[03:40] <joaquinz> is it the new unstable flavor of ubuntu ready to use?
[03:40] <imc1> !w32codecs
[03:40] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).
[03:40] <nickrud> mustard5, I reread your question, doesn't sudo netstat -pt show all active connections?
[03:41] <mustard5> nickrud, I'll try thanks
[03:42] <mustard5> vorpulus, try netstat -pt
[03:42] <vorpulus> I have
[03:42] <gcj> demios, bios= is at http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man5/lilo.conf.5.html
[03:42] <vorpulus> I can't see an IP address ending with :3...
[03:42] <mustard5> vorpulus, you got firefox configured for proxy with auto config url?
[03:42] <vorpulus> yes, I set up firefox with the auto config url
[03:43] <vorpulus> now I know for a fact that url works in firefox!
[03:43] <jonny> can you filter out child sensative material in gtk-gnutella?
[03:43] <mustard5> vorpulus, can you see an IP ending in :3127?
[03:43] <demios> ah, man lilo.conf, of course. doh
[03:43] <ompaul> joaquinz, breezy badger aka 5.10 was released on 13th October, the idea of unstable being ready for use does not work - it is in devel and changes can take place or it is released
[03:43] <vorpulus> I can't see any IP address whatsoever
[03:43] <gcj> jonny, yes, rm -rf `which gtk-gnutella`
[03:43] <mustard5> vorpulus, hehe
[03:43] <gcj> jonny, it's all child unsafe
[03:43] <mustard5> wish I had that conversation logged :)
[03:44] <jonny> okay, thank you
[03:44] <vorpulus> yeah I was going to save it, but I suppose since my system crashed that wouldn't have been a lot of help
[03:44] <vorpulus> haha
[03:44] <nickrud> jonny, there's a filter thingo under the search window; never tried it though
[03:45] <gcj> nick: how would you know what's child sensitive? we haven't invented a working pr0n filter yet
[03:45] <jonny> nickrud: the dropdown has only one choice: the one it's on, lol
[03:45] <nickrud> jonny, at the very bottom, there's a filter button
[03:45] <wickedpuppy> you need sudo
[03:45] <jonny> gcj: that command doesnt work on my computer
[03:45] <jonny> watll it do?
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> to see all i mean
[03:46] <gcj> jonny, it was a joke, it means "delete gtk-gnutella"
[03:46] <gnu2it2> totum complains playing .wmv file, says missing plugins. where to find?
[03:46] <gnu2it2> totem
[03:46] <nickrud> gcj, it's his call on what he calls 'child sensitive', not mine :)
[03:46] <nickrud> tell gnu2it2 about codecs
[03:46] <nickrud> !tell gnu2it2 about codecs
[03:46] <nickrud> doh
[03:47] <jonny> gcj: oh, lol
[03:48] <demios> gcj: well, i followed the example here http://ldp.rediris.es/HOWTO/LILO-4.html with hdc replaced by sda
[03:48] <mustard5> vorpulus, netstat -tanp
[03:48] <nickrud> vorpulus, sudo netstat -tpn shows ips
[03:48] <jonny> nickrud: thx
[03:48] <demios> gcj: thanks for the help... let's see if it boots now
[03:48] <gcj> demios, ok good luck
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> !w32codecs
[03:48] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).
[03:48] <bozzu> i would like to try xchat-gnome, but synaptic want to remove ubuntu-desktop when i try to install it. why?
[03:48] <vorpulus> mustard5, indeed it does!
[03:48] <jonny> nickrud: hm...still not seing it
[03:49] <gcj> gotta go see a man about a kernel, back in a minute
[03:49] <vorpulus> however, none of them end in 3128
[03:49] <mustard5> nickrud, we are trying to find his proxy for synaptic by checking out what proxy address his firefox is connecting on his uni connection ;)
[03:49] <mustard5> nickrud, we may have it :)
[03:49] <CaBlGuY> wurd
[03:49] <nickrud> mustard5, I gathered that, never had to do that so I'm pretty much watching ;)
[03:50] <mustard5> vorpulus, I found out how to set up proxy in apt-get too
[03:50] <vorpulus> oh I put in nickrud 's command
[03:50] <nickrud> jonny, click Search in the upper left pane, and select edit filters.
[03:50] <jonny> okay
[03:50] <vorpulus> I thought it was the same name twice
[03:50] <vorpulus> whoops
[03:50] <CaBlGuY> cool  mulambo  u learn all the stuff and then u can teach me later.. ;)
[03:50] <CaBlGuY> errr..  I meant mustard5
[03:50] <CaBlGuY> :p
[03:50] <nickrud> jonny, at the bottom :)
[03:51] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, hey mate ;)
[03:51] <vorpulus> oh nice mustard5
[03:51] <vorpulus> very nice!
[03:51] <CaBlGuY> that was meant for you..  mustard5 /\
[03:51] <mustard5> I wrote a wiki entry for in !apt-get
[03:51] <CaBlGuY> U learn all the stuff and then teach it  2 me
[03:51] <CaBlGuY> :)
[03:51] <jonny> nickrud: lol, i still dont see it, but i dont want to waste your time
[03:52] <vorpulus> funny man mustard5  :P
[03:52] <vorpulus> I'll look that up on wiki
[03:52] <mustard5> vorpulus, just getting the link now
[03:52] <mustard5> vorpulus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo
[03:52] <mustard5> vorpulus, all the way down the bottom
[03:52] <CaBlGuY> mustard5,  stayin busy already this morning I see..
[03:53] <CaBlGuY> I guess it would be evening 4 u though huh?
[03:53] <mustard5> hehe yeah CaBlGuY
[03:53] <CaBlGuY> :_
[03:53] <CaBlGuY> :)
[03:53] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, its nearly 1 am ;)
[03:53] <nickrud> jonny, I've got download selected, edit filters, and show settings buttons at the bottom. (you may need to click Search even though it's highlighted at startup)
[03:53] <CaBlGuY> time
[03:53] <CaBlGuY> err
[03:53] <CaBlGuY> date
[03:53] <CaBlGuY> dammit..
[03:53] <CaBlGuY> ummmm
[03:53] <vorpulus> very nice mustard5
[03:54] <mustard5> vorpulus, so you worked out the IP and port?
[03:54] <CaBlGuY> Saturday November 5 2005 -- 15:53:47 +01:00
[03:54] <CaBlGuY> there..
[03:54] <CaBlGuY> lol
[03:54] <frogzoo> anyone know where the cool matrix screensaver from hoary can be found?
[03:54] <CaBlGuY> I was tryin the say command but apperently, it don't work on this server...
[03:54] <vorpulus> mustard5, I'm trying to find something ending in 3128, because the IP you gave me yesterday ended in that
[03:54] <vorpulus> but I can't find one that does
[03:54] <welp> how do i install wine?
[03:54] <vorpulus> the port is 3128
[03:55] <mustard5> vorpulus, are you browsing when you hit netstat?
[03:55] <CaBlGuY> welp
[03:55] <CaBlGuY> -->  sudo apt-get install wine
[03:55] <vorpulus> I'm on synaptic and firefox... if that's what you mean
[03:55] <CaBlGuY> welp,  I dunno how good it will owrk for you though..
[03:55] <zando> i have a problem winh ntfs partition: how i can enable the users to see it?
[03:55] <frogzoo> or just cop out & use Synaptic ;)
[03:55] <mustard5> vorpulus, load a web page then hit netstat
[03:56] <CaBlGuY> LOL frogzoo  yeah, the lazy mans way..
[03:56] <frogzoo> CaBlGuY, hey, they're playing my song :D
[03:56] <welp> CaBlGuY, thanks
[03:56] <CaBlGuY> and sometimes ya can't find a package in Synaptic, hence why I use the terminal alot
[03:56] <mustard5> vorpulus, preferably a big web page
[03:56] <CaBlGuY> welp,  NP bud. ;)
[03:56] <welp> :D
[03:57] <vorpulus> a web page? :/
[03:57] <CaBlGuY> se mustard5  I'm retaining smoe of the stuff u taught me.. :p
[03:57] <vorpulus> I just did netstat -a and it has some things with 3128 in
[03:57] <vorpulus> but the 3128 doesn't follow an IP address directly, there's some text inbetween
[03:57] <mustard5> vorpulus, yeah because you need to see the 'active connections' so you need to be actively connecting to a webpage on http
[03:57] <CaBlGuY> @ any rate, im off to go for a hike..
[03:58] <vorpulus> oh I see what you mean
[03:58] <CaBlGuY> going to climb Muoiunt Mitchell here in NC
[03:58] <CaBlGuY> bbl
[03:58] <CaBlGuY> see ya later mustard5  have a good sleep (when) u go to bed..
[03:58] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[03:58] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, cya mate :)
[03:59] <boci^> how can I use exim without exim-conf?
[03:59] <queuetue> Hmm.. I was just given advanced warning that the "google truck" is coming up my road photographing everything at ground level.  So ... what kind of sign should I put out?
[04:00] <jonny> i c it, but its too self-dependent
[04:00] <jonny> ill just uninstall
[04:00] <remyforbes777> can anyone help me install xpde
[04:00] <Goshawk> is there somebody using anjuta here?
[04:00] <jonny> is there a program that you can get free music?
[04:00] <vorpulus> !pastebin
[04:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:01] <gcj> queuetue, how about "index this" and a big finger?
[04:01] <queuetue> Haha
[04:01] <vorpulus> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4100 mustard5 , there are a few things at the top with 3128 at the end, but nothing with all the numbers together
[04:02] <mustard5> vorpulus, looking now...
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> jonny, free music ... legally ?
[04:02] <kandoora_> is there a HOWTO on compiling tarballs
[04:02] <jonny> wickedpuppy: preferably lol
[04:02] <gcj> queuetue, "somebody help! the googlebots are stealing my brain!"
[04:02] <nickrud> jonny, you could create a group, and assign yourself and gtk-gnutella to it, and not allow users to run it. That way the kids would be locked out
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> kandoora_,  normally its untar, ./configure, make, make install
[04:02] <mustard5> vorpulus, do it again with netstat -tanp
[04:03] <jonny> nickrud: i am the kid, lol
[04:03] <mustard5> vorpulus, netstat on its own is resolving the names
[04:03] <nickrud> doh!!
[04:03] <lee> I want to use the nvidia driver, rather than the nv driver... I've done apt-get install nvidia-glx, what else do I need to do?  I've altered xorg.conf to use nvidia instead of nv, but with that, the machine freezes at varying points during startup ...
[04:03] <mustard5> vorpulus, we just want the ip address and port
[04:03] <gcj> jonny, if u don't want to see that "child sensitive" stuff there must be something wrong with u :-)
[04:03] <kandoora_> Dr_Willis, my ./configure never seems to finish with creating a make
[04:03] <jonny> gcj: lol
[04:04] <jonny> im the odball in the family, y'know using linux
[04:04] <jonny> i love it
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> kandoora_,  then ya need to read the output and figure why. :P
[04:04] <kandoora_> Dr_Willis, i just get a makefile.am and makefile.in which when i "make" does do anything
[04:04] <jonny> brb
[04:04] <gcj> jonny, maybe u should filter out *.ogg and *.tar.gz?
[04:04] <vorpulus> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4101
[04:04] <jonny> gcj: and .mov
[04:04] <Xu> hi
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> hmm make reads the 'make.in' i thought.
[04:04] <mustard5> vorpulus, checking now...
[04:04] <kandoora_> Dr_Willis, the problem with the output is that it is incomplete
[04:05] <gcj> right, i'm stumped, my kernel built from linux-tree-2.6.12 just will not boot
[04:05] <mustard5> vorpulus, you missed the web page loading at the same time :)
[04:05] <mustard5> vorpulus, hehe
[04:05] <vorpulus> ohh I see
[04:05] <lee> anybody have any suggestions?  the wiki doesn't seem to have anything covering this
[04:05] <vorpulus> I need to get a huge webpage then
[04:05] <saen_> hi all! is there someone from exUSSR?
[04:05] <saen_> i need help!
[04:05] <mustard5> vorpulus, yahoo maybe
[04:05] <Xu> is ubuntu 5.10 not supporting mp3 at default???
[04:05] <gcj> xu: having problems with rhythmbox?
[04:05] <Xu> yes
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> Xu,  correct.
[04:05] <mustard5> vorpulus, you can hit the up arrow to repeat the last command in terminal too
[04:06] <gcj> xu: try "apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad"
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> Xu, patents ...
[04:06] <nickrud> !tell Xu about restricted
[04:06] <Xu> :o
[04:06] <nir> hi , i'm using hoary , how i can install mp3/wmv/mov codecs ?
[04:06] <Xu> k :) ill do that tx gcj
[04:06] <gcj> nickrud, wickedpuppy, it does work
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> support would be misnomer ... come with it ...
[04:06] <vorpulus> mustard5, got it :D
[04:06] <mustard5> vorpulus, well done!
[04:06] <gcj> u just need to install extra packages
[04:07] <gcj> Xu, install libmad0 as well
[04:07] <nickrud> gcj, I've added a bit to restricted formats, I know :)
[04:07] <vorpulus> but there are two?!
[04:07] <mustard5> pastebin them
[04:07] <gcj> nickrud, added a bit?
[04:07] <SAM_theman> BACK!!!
[04:07] <remyforbes777> anyone know how to install xpde
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> nir, same way
[04:07] <SAM_theman> and ubuntu is not freezing anymore
[04:07] <SAM_theman> i know what it was
[04:07] <jonny> hmm...any OTHER free music program?
[04:07] <SAM_theman> it was the updatesz
[04:07] <nickrud> gcj, about gstreamer0.8, and how to get all the plugins
[04:07] <SAM_theman> *updates
[04:07] <vorpulus> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4104
[04:08] <thoreauputic> remyforbes777: I would guess most of us don't want linux to look like win XP :)
[04:08] <gcj> nickrud, ok, thanks, i hit that problem when i started with ubuntu and i couldn't find any info about it
[04:08] <gcj> nickrud, rhythmbox errors are cryptic too
[04:08] <mustard5> vorpulus, I reckon either one will work ;)
[04:08] <SAM_theman> libgda2-3 and libgda2-common is what screws up my sytem
[04:08] <mustard5> vorpulus, write them down :)
[04:08] <vorpulus> ok, I'll give one of them a shot
[04:08] <vorpulus> yes- good idea!!
[04:08] <kandoora_> i get this at the end of ./configure              checking for gtk+-2.0 gdk-2.0... kandoora@kandoora:~/Download/spalah-flash-0.03$
[04:08] <jonny> how can one change the login screen?
[04:08] <nickrud> gcj, yeah, and who expects -mad to get mp3 support?
[04:08] <gcj> nickrud, where did u add that info?
[04:08] <vorpulus> should have done that last time!
[04:08] <kandoora_> is it normal
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> last i used 'Xpde" it was a rather nasty window manager.
[04:08] <gcj> nickrud, exactly :-(
[04:08] <kandoora_> the ./configure is incomplete
[04:09] <remyforbes777> Dr_Willis: thanks
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> jonny,  its in the perferances menus somewhere. you can pick from several themes, and the gdm has a config tool also.
[04:09] <gcj> nickrud, especially as rhythmbox is installed by default (but almost useless without mp3 support)
[04:09] <Xu> gcj tnx again :) i'm installing gstreamer* plugin's for mms etc. ^_^
[04:09] <kandoora_> why is my ./configure output incomplete
[04:09] <jonny> OK i want to get my music OFF my ipod and listen to them on my ubuntu box
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> jonny, all the programs in the synaptic are free
[04:10] <gcj> nickrud, shouldn't rhythmbox "recommend" those packages?
[04:10] <shamox> hi
[04:10] <gcj> Xu, you're welcome, i had the same problem
[04:10] <nickrud> gcj, enable universe, multiverse, and apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[04:10] <jonny> wickedpuppy: what was that in response to?
[04:10] <SAM_theman> weres the site for the nvidia driver again for ubuntu :D
[04:10] <Xu> gcj lol i've never used ubuntu before.. i use debian only as a server.. no multi-media stuffs
[04:10] <SAM_theman> i had to redo ubuntu Again :d
[04:11] <SAM_theman> how to install the nvidia driver
[04:11] <erUSUL> ubotu tell SAM_theman about nvidia
[04:11] <Alex[RM-UK] > Hey,
[04:11] <mustard5> vorpulus, it looks like it flicks around between four different squid caches
[04:11] <nickrud> gcj, could be, I'm not apt enabled enough to know if that's a problem if universe and multverse are not enabled
[04:11] <SAM_theman> is that a bot?
[04:11] <vorpulus> it's not working mustard5
[04:11] <erUSUL> SAM_theman, yes
[04:11] <SAM_theman> cool
[04:11] <gcj> Xu, me neither, this is my first debian-based desktop
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> !nvidia
[04:12] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[04:12] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:12] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:12] <boci^> How can I disable exim4-config ?
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> the bot is lagging ??
[04:12] <boci^> It's not support mysql
[04:12] <gcj> nickrud, i don't think it's a problem because recommends != requires
[04:12] <kandoora_> Dr_Willis, can u help me on something?
[04:12] <jonny> brb
[04:12] <gcj> nickrud, it just makes it easier to know what packages u should install
[04:12] <gcj> nickrud, or perhaps some descriptive text in the package info?
[04:12] <mustard5> vorpulus, I am wondering wheterh wwwcache2.bath.uk is sufficient or any cache number from 1 to 4
[04:13] <nickrud> gcj, that is the essence of the problem with all the non free stuff. How to recommend without potential liability. wiki vs actual dependencies, and I'm not qualified to speak on that
[04:13] <vorpulus> mustard5, it wasn't working because I was a moron and left the port in the IP field....again...
[04:13] <shamox> anyone could help me for problem on installing ubuntu-server on a g5 ?
[04:13] <SAM_theman> ok thanks
[04:13] <mustard5> vorpulus, I am wondering wheterh wwwcache2.bath.ac.uk is sufficient or any cache number from 1 to 4 .. you might be able to use the resolved name
[04:13] <SAM_theman> ummm
[04:13] <vorpulus> you mean I can have 181,182,183 or 184?
[04:13] <vorpulus> oh
[04:14] <vorpulus> I could just put that in?
[04:14] <SAM_theman> what do i do with the rest of the updates that mess up my comper
[04:14] <SAM_theman> libgda2-3 and libgda2-common is what screws up my sytem
[04:14] <vorpulus> wwcahe.bath.ac.uk?
[04:14] <shamox> heho
[04:14] <vorpulus> wwcache2*
[04:14] <SAM_theman> i had to redo my comp 2 times
[04:14] <mustard5> vorpulus, in one netstat it was using four different squid caches yeah
[04:14] <gcj> nickrud, ianal but my guess is that only using a patented algorithm is illegal, not making it available or telling people they can/should use it
[04:14] <vorpulus> I'll try it
[04:14] <mustard5> vorpulus, so I wonder whether any of them will work
[04:14] <SAM_theman> beacuse i did the rest of the updates except them
[04:14] <mustard5> vorpulus, all of them that is
[04:14] <rohal> can anyone tell me or post a faq related to gdesklets....i am a newbie??
[04:14] <vorpulus> so shall I put wwwcache2.bath.ac.uk into the HTTP field/
[04:14] <vorpulus> and FTP field
[04:15] <mustard5> vorpulus, worth a try :)
[04:15] <nickrud> gcj, debian-legal is an interesting archive to browse ;)
[04:15] <mustard5> vorpulus, easier to remember
[04:15] <gcj> nickrud, if i had a few years :-)
[04:15] <nickrud> lol
[04:15] <vorpulus> mustard5, that seems to work to!!
[04:15] <rohal> can anyone tell me or post a faq related to GDESKLETS....i am a newbie??
[04:15] <vorpulus> let me get that thing copied down!
[04:15] <mustard5> vorpulus, that makes life easier :)
[04:16] <mustard5> vorpulus, I'm learning new things ;)
[04:16] <vorpulus> what you already know is amazing to me...
[04:16] <mustard5> vorpulus, try setting up apt-get
[04:16] <vorpulus> yep, I kept the url
[04:17] <rohal> anyone getting my messege?
[04:17] <shamox> yes rohal
[04:17] <shamox> but i can't answer you right now
[04:17] <rohal> ok
[04:17] <gcj> ok later all, gotta debug this kernel
[04:18] <erUSUL> rohal, yes, i do not use gdesklets myself to buggy
[04:18] <shamox> anyone could help me for problem on installing ubuntu-server on a g5 ?
[04:18] <shamox> :)
[04:18] <shamox> i repeat my message ;)
[04:18] <vorpulus> mustard5, where exactly do I put the lines? At the very bottom of the page, or underneath etc/profile
[04:18] <mustard5> vorpulus, at the bottom of the page
[04:18] <rohal> erUSUL: means its still in the developing stage.....
[04:18] <mustard5> vorpulus, you want to see mine?
[04:18] <vorpulus> yes please!
[04:19] <shamox> :'(
[04:20] <jonny> so...anyone know how to download free legal music?
[04:20] <mustard5> vorpulus, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4105
[04:20] <erUSUL> rohal, almost everythin in linux is in dev but for me gdesklets is too buggy
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> jonny, there is no such thing unless the artist gives it away
[04:20] <shamox> i'm so alone
[04:20] <vorpulus> mustard5, I've accidentally deleted one of the characters of umask
[04:20] <rohal> is there any good software, package etc to enhance gnome looks or ill have to settle to what is provided by default....
[04:20] <erUSUL> jonny, google round for creative commons licensed music
[04:21] <deFrysk> jonny, for that you need to be on the webpage who gives away free music to find out
[04:21] <vorpulus> and I thought it was a 4, but yours is a 2
[04:21] <mustard5> vorpulus, don't save then
[04:21] <vorpulus> just exit?
[04:21] <mustard5> vorpulus, cancel
[04:21] <jonny> okay
[04:21] <mustard5> vorpulus, then edit again
[04:21] <ompaul> shamox, well is it a G5 question or a server question?
[04:21] <shamox> hum
[04:22] <shamox> i don't really now... i have a debian that works here
[04:22] <shamox> but i tryed to install ubuntu-server
[04:22] <shamox> because i want to make it be a server
[04:22] <ompaul> shamox, lets assume its a Ubuntu question and then if not you can wait on some personwith the same hardware
[04:23] <vorpulus> I'm still getting the no route to host stuff
[04:23] <shamox> ok
[04:23] <shamox> hum ok i understand what you mean...
[04:23] <mustard5> vorpulus, did you source?
[04:23] <saen> help me please with callback setup!!! i got this during the server's callback...
[04:23] <mustard5> vorpulus, the last command
[04:23] <vorpulus> oh I left synaptic open
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> !ping
[04:23] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, wickedpuppy.
[04:23] <saen> pppd ttyS1 57600 connect 'chat -v -f call_back' crtscts nodetach noipdefault nodefaultroute nopersist usepeerdns
[04:23] <saen> Serial connection established.
[04:23] <saen> using channel 19
[04:23] <saen> Using interface ppp0
[04:23] <saen> Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
[04:23] <saen> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x4afa0174> <pcomp> <accomp>] 
[04:23] <vorpulus> oh.. maybe not
[04:23] <saen> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x4afa0174> <pcomp> <accomp>] 
[04:23] <saen> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x4afa0174> <pcomp> <accomp>] 
[04:23] <saen> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x4afa0174> <pcomp> <accomp>] 
[04:23] <saen> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x4afa0174> <pcomp> <accomp>] 
[04:24] <ompaul> shamox, so detail the question and lets see what you have
[04:24] <saen> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x4afa0174> <pcomp> <accomp>] 
[04:24] <ompaul> saen,
[04:24] <saen> Modem hangup
[04:24] <mustard5> vorpulus, the last command on the guide is a source command
[04:24] <saen> Connection terminated.
[04:24] <ompaul> saen, STOP
[04:24] <shamox> ompaul,  the facts are that just after installing ubuntu-server ppc64
[04:24] <saen> i'm just asking for help...
[04:24] <SAM_theman> brb restarting my comp
[04:24] <ompaul> saen, do not paste in here - use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:24] <shamox> ompaul, i reboot for the second stage and got a beautifull error message
[04:24] <saen> tell me can anybody help me or not?
[04:24] <ompaul> saen, maybe wait a moment or four while we get on with what ever we were doing
[04:24] <vorpulus> do I put source /etc/profile in terminal after saving it?
[04:24] <saen> ok, i'm sorry
[04:25] <benito> HELLO
[04:25] <shamox> ompaul, my root partition was not the root partition defined ... I got a root tree with nearly nothing in...
[04:25] <shamox> ompaul, so impossible to boot
[04:25] <Bodat> could somebody tell me how to mount a harddisk with disk manager. Please
[04:25] <saen> but, is there anybody who knows my problem
[04:25] <shamox> ompaul, when i look at the right partition, everythings is here to continue the installation
[04:25] <mahdi_> hi
[04:25] <vorpulus> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages
[04:25] <vorpulus>   Could not resolve wwcahe2.bath.ac.uk
[04:25] <shamox> ompaul, i imagine that is an error from the bootimage
[04:26] <vorpulus> mustard5, the no route to host error has gone, but I get the one above
[04:26] <ompaul> shamox, can you check the md5sum of the image you burnt?
[04:26] <vorpulus> oh I need to close synaptic...
[04:26] <mahdi_> \join debian
[04:26] <shamox> hu
[04:26] <CyberDoo> Where should I look to adjust sound quality(treble, bass, etc)?
[04:26] <dave> how do add write permissions to multiple directories in one go??
[04:26] <shamox> right now no i can't
[04:26] <mustard5> vorpulus, did you spell cache correctly ?
[04:26] <shamox> i would take a look if it was here that i must ask...
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> dave,  you mean the current dir and all dirs below it?
[04:27] <jonny> does rhythmbox come with mp3 support right out of the box?
[04:27] <vorpulus> whoops, I missed out a c..
[04:27] <dave> yeah and files
[04:27] <mustard5> vorpulus, :)
[04:27] <robertj> I got all excited I opened up a video file from the wiki and it looked like it was going to play but after 1/10th of a second it stopped :(
[04:27] <shamox> ompaul, and if there was an other chan to go for ubunut-server
[04:27] <mustard5> vorpulus, its the little things ;)
[04:27] <shamox> :/
[04:27] <ompaul> shamox, from what you said that would be the first thing I would do,if you can't do it for a while I would try to install again the most basic system and then come back
[04:27] <vorpulus> yep
[04:27] <shamox> ok
[04:27] <shamox> i will
[04:27] <shamox> thanks
[04:27] <robertj> totem works but audio is out of sync
[04:27] <mustard5> vorpulus, source the file again when you change it
[04:28] <Bodat> need help mounting a harddisk
[04:28] <SAM_theman> how i check my fps?
[04:28] <PJeremy> how do i open udp/tcp port 6881:6889 for azureus?
[04:28] <erUSUL> robertj, this is a known problem with totem and esound try xine or mplayer
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> glxgears --some_opion_I-forget
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> PJeremy, firestarter
[04:29] <dave> how do add write permissions to multiple directories in one go??
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> dave, chmod -r
[04:29] <vorpulus> Sources.gz  Could not resolve wwcache2.bath.ac.uk
[04:29] <vorpulus>  mustard5
[04:29] <dave> thanks
[04:29] <PJeremy> wickedpuppy: i don't use gnome, thus no firestarter..
[04:29] <mustard5> vorpulus, you are missing one 'w' ;)
[04:29] <mustard5> vorpulus, hehehe
[04:29] <imc1> Hey, if I do a lsusb and see that a printer is on Bus 003 Device 002:, how can I set the printer URI, is it usb:/dev/usb/lp2 ?
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> PJeremy, i use k3b and i don't use kde
[04:29] <ompaul> SAM_theman, you can't get a benchmark if that is what you want, but glxgears will tell you something - however you will first type words to the effect "I know this is not a benchmark"
[04:29] <vorpulus> am I?? I thought it only had 2
[04:29] <vorpulus> damn
[04:29] <CyberDoo> Where should I look to adjust sound quality(treble, bass, etc)?
[04:30] <mustard5> vorpulus, your not having a good run today ;)
[04:30] <vorpulus> no, I'm positively shocking
[04:30] <mustard5> :)
[04:30] <PJeremy> wickedpuppy: well, yes, but the simple iptables input for that would be good enough for me
[04:31] <imc1> Hey, if I do a lsusb and see that a printer is on Bus 003 Device 002:, how can I set the printer URI, is it usb:/dev/usb/lp2 ?
[04:31] <erUSUL> SAM_theman,  ompaul, glxgears -iacknowledgethisisnotabenchmark or something similar
[04:31] <vorpulus> yes!! Excellent mustard5 , thanks. :)
[04:31] <SAM_theman> o
[04:31] <mustard5> vorpulus, w00t!
[04:31] <vorpulus> haha
[04:32] <mustard5> vorpulus, now you are fully functional in synaptic and terminal with apt-get
[04:32] <mustard5> vorpulus, time to break your system downloading stuff ;)
[04:32] <frogzoo> anyone know if the matrix reloaded screensaver is available for breezy anywhere?
[04:32] <vorpulus> yeah! That's great. Most of the instructions on the Internet seem to use terminal
[04:32] <vorpulus> ahaha, yep
[04:32] <vorpulus> well, at least I've written this stuff down now
[04:32] <vorpulus> that piece of paper needs to be framed or something
[04:33] <vorpulus> maybe I'll just leave the computer on forever now
[04:33] <mustard5> vorpulus, I think you can change it to wwwcache(any number from 1 to 4)
[04:33] <CyberDoo> How do I adjust my sound from having too much treble?
[04:33] <mustard5> vorpulus, I often do
[04:33] <vorpulus> have you ever had any problems at start up mustard5 ?
[04:34] <mustard5> vorpulus, not when my system is running well..I had a RAM problem a couple of weeks back...a flaky RAM stic
[04:34] <SAM_theman> ubunt's site down?
[04:34] <SAM_theman> *ubuntu's
[04:35] <mustard5> vorpulus, stick to standard 386 kernel too and you can't go too far wrong
[04:35] <vorpulus> I've seen i386 and i586
[04:35] <vorpulus> I'm trying to pretend I know what you're talking about.
[04:35] <mustard5> vorpulus, you would have 386 now
[04:35] <vorpulus> I'm such a novice it's untrue
[04:36] <mustard5> vorpulus, everytime I try 686 or k7 ( for my amd chip) I have nvidia driver problems
[04:36] <vorpulus> I see
[04:36] <vorpulus> Oh that brings me on to another thing
[04:36] <mustard5> k
[04:36] <vorpulus> I have an ATi Radeon 9200 graphics card
[04:36] <mustard5> vorpulus, eek :)
[04:36] <vorpulus> and did some research on google, and it seems ATi don't make very good drivers for linux
[04:36] <mustard5> ubotu: tell vorpulus about ati
[04:37] <vorpulus> cheers.
[04:37] <frogzoo> vorpulus, install fglrx & changer your driver setting in xorg.conf to fglrx & reboot
[04:37] <mustard5> vorpulus, ati could be bumpy...
[04:37] <mustard5> vorpulus, you might want to try other stuff first
[04:37] <ToXedVirus> are there any tools in the ubuntu package which can save the iptables configuration ? So i i dont have to setup the iptables configuration everytime i reboot ?
[04:37] <erUSUL> vorpulus, very nice card. i own one too. the only graphic cards with an opensource 3d acc driver
[04:37] <nir> hi, i want to install fixedsys font
[04:37] <nir> is it possible ?
[04:37] <vorpulus> is that like sudo apt-get install fglrx?
[04:37] <SAM_theman> umm why is my internet soo slow
[04:37] <mustard5> erUSUL, really? that sounds good for vorpulus  then
[04:37] <vorpulus> haha erUSUL, I'd love to say that's why I bought it
[04:38] <madsen> !seen khakionion
[04:38] <ubotu> khakionion <n=khakioni@24.144.13.234> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu-offtopic, 7d 7h 18m 41s ago, saying: 'Lexmark i3 via VMware ain't too great.  '.
[04:38] <erUSUL> vorpulus, i use the free radeon driver. less performance but less trubles with upgrades and the like
[04:38] <mustard5> vorpulus, I have barely read any ATI how to's ..so I am a bit in the dark about them
[04:38] <mhz> hi there
[04:38] <frogzoo> vorpulus, yes - but you'll also need to edit xorg.conf
[04:38] <madsen> *sigh*
[04:38] <mhz> I have this error when i do $ find / ...
[04:38] <mhz> find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.  Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.
[04:39] <vorpulus> with sudo gedit? :P
[04:39] <vorpulus> You cannot underestimate what I know...
[04:39] <vorpulus> I don't think it's possible
[04:39] <mhz> Any ideas?
[04:39] <erUSUL> vorpulus, try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose radeon instead of ati for the driver
[04:40] <vorpulus> can I put that straight into console now?
[04:40] <vorpulus> I thought that was after I had something I could do dpkg
[04:40] <SAM_theman> umm why is my internet soo slow
[04:40] <mustard5> erUSUL, after he installs fglrx?
[04:41] <vorpulus> it couldn't find fglrx
[04:41] <erUSUL> vorpulus, mustard5 if he's going to use the radeon driver he do not need to install the fglrx one
[04:41] <mustard5> vorpulus, my motto is read first, think twice, thirdly proceed with caution ;)
[04:41] <vorpulus> I did sudo apt-get install fglrx
[04:41] <jonny> okay, I need help
[04:41] <erUSUL> vorpulus, mustard5 radeon comes installed by default try 'man radeon'
[04:41] <jonny> kubuntu doesnt work
[04:41] <jonny> its too big for my screen
[04:41] <mustard5> vorpulus, you can do a sudo apt-get remove
[04:42] <jonny> all that works is gnomw
[04:42] <jonny> gnome*
[04:42] <mhz> find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.  Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.
[04:42] <mhz> Any ideas?
[04:42] <Stormx2> why are ubuntu and ubuntuforums always going down...
[04:43] <erUSUL> mhz, repeat the search with -noleaf
[04:43] <vorpulus> how do I skip through the pages faster
[04:43] <mhz> erUSUL: ok, i'll try
[04:43] <vorpulus> ah, space
[04:44] <vorpulus> erUSUL, does that mean that drivers for my card are already installed?
[04:44] <mustard5> vorpulus, 'q' to exit ;)
[04:44] <CyberDoo> How do I adjust my sound quality?
[04:44] <mustard5> vorpulus, it seems so
[04:44] <vorpulus> mustard5, , what does sudo apt-get remove do? >> I was just about to ask!
[04:44] <Stormx2> I wanna play soldat on ubuntu :(
[04:45] <vorpulus> yeah I thought they might be, because when they weren't installed on windows, I couldn't even get a decent resolution
[04:45] <mustard5> vorpulus, if you don't need fglrx installed you can sudo apt-get remove fglrx
[04:45] <mustard5> vorpulus, if you don't need fglrx installed you can sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx will 'remove completely' including config files
[04:45] <fangorious> i have an ext3 partition mounted that I need to have utf-8 support for. My default locale is en_us.UTF-8, but nautilus doesn't display accent marks at all
[04:45] <vorpulus> it never installed
[04:46] <mustard5> vorpulus, k
[04:46] <SAM_theman> umm guys
[04:46] <SAM_theman> why is my internet slow i disable ipv6 still
[04:46] <mustard5> apparently you go into xorg.conf and change 'nv' to 'radeon'? Is that right?
[04:46] <SAM_theman> its slow
[04:46] <SAM_theman> not to slow
[04:46] <SAM_theman> i am trying to download AA
[04:47] <SAM_theman>  53.59K/s
[04:47] <SAM_theman> ???
[04:47] <SAM_theman> take a little longer to load web pages
[04:47] <SAM_theman>  0% [                                     ]  4,516,060     73.57K/s  ETA 3:53:02
[04:47] <erUSUL> mustard5, nv?? if he has an ati card it should be using the ati driver
[04:47] <ToXedVirus> huhu ?
[04:47] <vorpulus> by the way mustard5 , what do you reckon the chances are of me being able to get steam (for counter strike games) up and running on linux?
[04:48] <magpie> hello all...i have ati driver questions...i'm running 5.10 amd64 with x600xt
[04:48] <SAM_theman> Wo has CS??
[04:48] <SAM_theman> i can't play it my Cd was hacked
[04:48] <SAM_theman> *key
[04:48] <fangorious> any ideas on the utf8 thing?
[04:48] <mustard5> vorpulus, you will need cedega and it costs 15 bucks for 3 months I believe
[04:48] <MasterYuri> hi all
[04:48] <vorpulus> I think it might already be using the driver, because when the driver was not installed on windows, the picture was considerably worse
[04:48] <MasterYuri> :)
[04:48] <magpie> what's installed through synaptic: fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx and xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[04:49] <ToXedVirus> they tried to build a prison
[04:49] <MasterYuri> can you suggest me a desklet for gDesklets ?
[04:49] <vorpulus> I will NEED cedega? There's no substitute/
[04:49] <vorpulus> ?
[04:49] <MasterYuri> i don't like default desklets :(
[04:49] <SAM_theman> i have it
[04:49] <SAM_theman> cedega
[04:49] <magpie> do i need to use both those drivers?
[04:49] <vorpulus> is it good SAM_theman
[04:49] <erUSUL> ubotu: tell magpie about ati
[04:50] <SAM_theman> yup
[04:50] <axel> SAM_theman: heyyy werent u on fedora before ?
[04:50] <boci^> why no support ubuntu/debian dspam ?
[04:50] <vorpulus> SAM, I think it failed
[04:50] <SAM_theman> yup
[04:50] <magpie> i was reading for a long time last night on the forums but can't seem to get in now...i will check your links
[04:50] <magpie> thank you
[04:50] <SAM_theman> FC4 sucks now
[04:50] <SAM_theman> X keeps freezing
[04:51] <magpie> i think the forums are down?
[04:51] <SAM_theman> every time teamspeak and AA or any 3d apps wasplaying
[04:51] <axel> SAM_theman: yeah i moved to ubuntua couple days ago, its a killer
[04:51] <SAM_theman> yup it is
[04:51] <mustard5> vorpulus, cedega is your best option because Valve keeps changing the code and cedega is active enough to keep fixing itself to work with STEAM
[04:51] <SAM_theman> yup
[04:51] <vorpulus> ah, nice
[04:51] <SAM_theman> but i can't play CS
[04:52] <SAM_theman> someone hacked my cd key
[04:52] <vorpulus> ouch
[04:52] <SAM_theman> i am pissed
[04:52] <SAM_theman> yeah ouch
[04:52] <vorpulus> how could someone do that? :/
[04:52] <vorpulus> I don't mean that in a moral way..
[04:52] <SAM_theman> ./racer.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:53] <vorpulus> I recognise libstdc++  :P
[04:53] <LaSSarD> sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[04:53] <tritium> SAM_theman, you can install that package
[04:53] <SAM_theman> in termianl ?
[04:53] <LaSSarD> yeah
[04:53] <tritium> see LaSSarD's comment
[04:53] <tritium> you could also use synaptic or aptitude to install it, of course
[04:54] <vorpulus> how do I sent a PM on this?
[04:54] <SAM_theman> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[04:54] <SAM_theman> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?
[04:54] <LaSSarD> yes but terminal is quicker XD
[04:54] <SAM_theman> Opps
[04:54] <tritium> SAM_theman, do you have synaptic open?
[04:54] <vorpulus> that's because synaptic is open?
[04:54] <SAM_theman> yup
[04:54] <LaSSarD> do you have another process running?
[04:54] <SAM_theman> lol
[04:54] <vorpulus> ahahaha look at me
[04:54] <vorpulus> I just solved a problem
[04:54] <mustard5> vorpulus ... /msg nickofrecipient messagetext
[04:54] <vorpulus> did you see that mustard5 ? :p
[04:54] <SAM_theman> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ?
[04:54] <LaSSarD> y :)
[04:54] <vorpulus> Y
[04:54] <vorpulus> I did this stuff before...
[04:54] <vorpulus> !
[04:54] <ubotu> vorpulus: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[04:54] <vorpulus> thanks mustard5
[04:55] <LaSSarD> hey guys i have a crt monitor
[04:55] <LaSSarD> and i want to change it to an lcd
[04:55] <onehell> alguem fala portugues?
[04:55] <LaSSarD> will be there any problems?
[04:55] <LaSSarD> eu falo! =D
[04:55] <LaSSarD> brasileiro? ;)
[04:55] <onehell> sim!
[04:55] <tritium> !pt
[04:55] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[04:55] <soundray> LaSSarD: with the right set of tools ... :)
[04:55] <SAM_theman> thanks
[04:55] <LaSSarD> ok but will the x server run?
[04:55] <onehell> obrigado
[04:56] <orangey> hey all.
[04:56] <soundray> LaSSarD, why not?
[04:56] <CyberDoo> Where should I look to adjust sound quality(treble, bass, etc)?
[04:56] <orangey> is there a reasonable way to resize partitions without destroying their contents in ubuntu?
[04:56] <LaSSarD> there may be some compatibily problems
[04:56] <tritium> LaSSarD, when you change your monitor, you can "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" if you need, to change settings
[04:56] <matw> anyone know why the ubuntu forums are down?
[04:56] <soundray> orangey, try parted (qtparted)
[04:56] <SAM_theman> ok...its installed but racer keeps closing
[04:56] <tritium> or gparter
[04:56] <tritium> gparted even
[04:56] <soundray> orangey, but be careful and read the instructions
[04:57] <LaSSarD> tritium: yes i know that... actually it's not for me, it's for my friend and he's too newbie to do that
[04:57] <tritium> LaSSarD, he should be fine
[04:57] <erUSUL> orangey, gparted?? i've never use it though
[04:58] <soundray> orangey, it is best to boot off a live CD to resize HD partitions.
[04:58] <LaSSarD> tritium, thanks :)
[04:58] <tritium> :)
[04:58] <LaSSarD> anyone using XFCE? :)
[04:59] <tritium> there are enough to have xubuntu, LaSSarD
[04:59] <fangorious> utf8 on ext3 in nautilus?
[04:59] <deFrysk> there is even a #xubuntu-channel
[04:59] <tritium> !tell LaSSarD about xubuntu
[04:59] <LaSSarD> yes i know xubuntu :)
[04:59] <LaSSarD> i've read about it some days ago
[04:59] <tritium> just checking ;)
[05:00] <LaSSarD> xfce is very nice
[05:00] <matw> where's a list of the ubuntu channels?
[05:00] <LaSSarD> but ubuntu is optimized for gnome
[05:00] <LaSSarD> and there are some features missing in xfce
[05:00] <magpie> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:00] <magpie> what does that mean?
[05:00] <LaSSarD> volumes don't mount on desktop like in gnome =/
[05:00] <magpie> i just did the instructions in the wiki
[05:00] <fangorious> i'm seeing a bunch of "NOT AUTHENTICATED" warnings from apt/synaptic, is there a package I can reconfigure or something?
[05:01] <tritium> LaSSarD, I believe you can use gnome-volume manager with xfce, but I've never used xfce, so it's just hearsay to me
[05:01] <zando> LaSSarD, XFCE haven't a desktop
[05:01] <LaSSarD> tritium, thanks in advance ;)
[05:01] <deFrysk> LaSSarD, gnome is a de xfce4 is awm
[05:01] <LaSSarD> zando, sure it has O_O
[05:01] <erUSUL> magpie, that you do not have dri module loaded.
[05:01] <deFrysk> a wm *
[05:01] <soundray> magpie, an application is trying to use Direct Rendering, and your X setup doesn't support it.
[05:01] <sapo> Hi all, after upgrading to breezy, my azureus isnt working anymore.. its like its openned, the java is running and azureus too on the process list.. but its like the icon isnt in the tray >.<
[05:02] <matw> magpie, maybe X couldn't load that extension
[05:02] <magpie> oh...how to fix?
[05:02] <erUSUL> magpie, try sudo modprobe drm
[05:02] <zando> LaSSarD, I use it and i don't have desktop
[05:02] <magpie> k
[05:02] <LaSSarD> well maybe you forgot to install a plugin
[05:02] <tritium> magpie, xfree86-dri?  ubuntu uses X.org
[05:02] <zando> LaSSarD, i try to search it
[05:02] <soundray> magpie, look through /var/log/Xorg.0.log or similar, and see if you find something about DRI.
[05:02] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: actually xfce4 *is* a dm - its wm is something like xfwm
[05:02] <matw> tritium, xorg calls some xfree stuff
[05:02] <magpie> FATAL: Module dri not found.
[05:02] <thoreauputic> er, I mean a DE
[05:02] <LaSSarD> i'm using wallpaper and such things in xfce so i'm sure it has desktop
[05:03] <SAM_theman> who hear heard of slpinter cell?
[05:03] <LaSSarD> i can even configure the desktop via the settings
[05:03] <LaSSarD> SAM_theman, i heard about it, it seems to be awesome :D
[05:03] <SAM_theman> well listen
[05:03] <SAM_theman> guess what
[05:03] <kandoora_> not that i know anything, but is there a female good at linux in this channel
[05:03] <matw> magpie, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:03] <erUSUL> magpie, are you running a custom kernel?
[05:03] <vorpulus> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:03] <vorpulus>  <--anyone know what's causing that?
[05:03] <SAM_theman> have anyone played the demo Cold War?
[05:03] <kandoora_> vorpulus, close synaptic
[05:04] <tritium> matw, ?
[05:04] <vorpulus> it's not open kandoora
[05:04] <thoreauputic> kandoora_: Myrtti is female and good at linux :)
[05:04] <SAM_theman> well this game is for linux and it is like Splinter Cell 2 and 3 but even better
[05:04] <LaSSarD> vorpulus, maybe the ubuntu update is running
[05:04] <erUSUL> vorpulus, are you using sudo?
[05:04] <LaSSarD> SAM_theman, is it free? :D
[05:04] <SAM_theman> well.....the demo is
[05:04] <vorpulus> erUSUL, that could be it, thanks
[05:04] <LaSSarD> holy shit :P
[05:04] <SAM_theman> we just have to sit and wait
[05:04] <matw> tritium, the xorg server calls some  xfree86 stuff. see /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:04] <Myrtti> mhwhat?
[05:04] <SAM_theman> i am downloading it
[05:04] <CyberDoo> My sound sounds crappy. Too much treble, any ideas on how to change this?
[05:04] <Myrtti> _o/
[05:05] <thoreauputic> kandoora_: she's also the resident Guinea Pig expert ;)
[05:05] <LaSSarD> SAM_theman, size?
[05:05] <Myrtti> gnaurrr
[05:05] <SAM_theman> 326.1mb
[05:05] <tritium> matw, indeed, I've never noticed that before
[05:05] <LaSSarD> SAM_theman, hum... not so big
[05:05] <SAM_theman> i am on 37%
[05:05] <SAM_theman> well u play AA or ET, TC-Elite?
[05:05] <mustard5> vorpulus, I am crashing.... bed time for me
[05:05] <matw> tritium, neither did I, but I'm debugging X stuff right now. :)
[05:05] <mustard5> vorpulus, good luck with it all
[05:05] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: anyone who can write irssi themes must be good at linux, right ? *grin*
[05:05] <tritium> matw, :)
[05:06] <Myrtti> thoreauputic: ehem, not necessarily ;-)
[05:06] <soundray> CyberDoo, have you excluded hardware problems?
[05:06] <magpie> not custom kernel
[05:06] <LaSSarD> TO INSTALL XFCE DESKTOP: sudo apt-get install xfdesktop4 (don't remember who asked me that)
[05:06] <LaSSarD> zando, TO INSTALL XFCE DESKTOP: sudo apt-get install xfdesktop4 (don't remember who asked me that)
[05:06] <deFrysk> no install xubuntu-desktop
[05:06] <tritium> !xfce
[05:06] <ubotu> it has been said that xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[05:07] <CyberDoo> soundray, This sound problem didn't exist under the previous version of ubuntu.
[05:07] <vorpulus> mustard5, thanks for your help again. Goodnight
[05:07] <thoreauputic> LaSSarD: that's totally wrong ;)
[05:07] <mustard5> vorpulus, nite :)
[05:07] <matw> anyone besides me having trouble with the Ubuntu Forums?
[05:07] <LaSSarD> xubuntu-desktop sucks, it installs  lot of shit files :P
[05:07] <CyberDoo> matw, yes.
[05:07] <soundray> CyberDoo, mixer settings?
[05:07] <spacemoose> can someone tell me how to get around this problem, im trying to install a game, however, i need to insert cd2 now, but cant remove the first cd without shutting down the install process
[05:07] <spacemoose> anyone know a way around this?
[05:07] <deFrysk> LaSSarD, that your opinion, harly objective
[05:07] <deFrysk> hardly
[05:07] <zando> LaSSarD, tnk a lot
[05:08] <CyberDoo> soundray, the mixer controls seem to work fine, but my card doesn't seem to have tone control, or alsa seems to think so, so I can't adjust them.
[05:08] <Jxpx> anyone know if the new version of cedega is available?
[05:08] <Huffers> spacemoose: sudo eject /dev/<yourcddrive> ?
[05:08] <erUSUL> magpie, maybe you need to install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[05:08] <deFrysk> Jxpx, it is but its off topic
[05:08] <spacemoose> Huffers, ill give it a try
[05:08] <soundray> CyberDoo, problem first occurred after Breezy upgrade?
[05:08] <Jxpx> off topic??
[05:08] <magpie> that seems to be installed too...
[05:08] <spacemoose> Huffers, still says its busy
[05:09] <Jxpx> deFrysk, what do u mean with "off topic"?
[05:09] <CyberDoo> soundray, yes. My sound was great till then.
[05:09] <Huffers> ah
[05:09] <LaSSarD> deFrysk, if you already have ubuntu installed (the gnome version) then you should have programs like openoffice installed and you may not want abiword also
[05:09] <Huffers> I have no idea then
[05:09] <egoleo> any nice games for ubuntu
[05:09] <tritium> Jxpx, off-topic means it's not pertinent to general ubuntu support
[05:09] <LaSSarD> xubuntu-desktop also installs abiword
[05:09] <CyberDoo> soundray, I didn't have tone control under the previous version either.
[05:09] <magpie> 2.6.12.4-11
[05:09] <CyberDoo> soundray, but the sound was good.
[05:09] <Jxpx> tritium,   so i cant use it?
[05:09] <LaSSarD> and other programs that ubuntu already has (not the same program but same function)
[05:09] <deFrysk> LaSSarD, people who choose xfce4 might prefer lighter apps like abiword ;)
[05:09] <egoleo> yeah rob_P
[05:09] <spacemoose> anyone else have a suggestion?
[05:09] <Kyral> XFCE4 rocks
[05:09] <soundray> CyberDoo, do you have any other OS installed?
[05:09] <Jxpx> tritium,   so i cant use it?
[05:09] <thoreauputic> LaSSarD: you can install just xfce4
[05:10] <spacemoose> how to force an eject?
[05:10] <erUSUL> magpie, well then i'm lost... :(. if you followed the instruccions in the wiki it should work
[05:10] <Kyral> built in compositing, I <3
[05:10] <egoleo> so what do i need to know first b4
[05:10] <spacemoose> to override whatever its doing?
[05:10] <LaSSarD> deFrysk, yes you're right, i understand your point of view
[05:10] <magpie> i have that log file open...what am i looking for?
[05:10] <LaSSarD> thoreauputic, yes i did that :D
[05:10] <egoleo> i set my linux box as a router
[05:10] <CyberDoo> soundray, nope. All my machines run some version of linux.
[05:10] <deFrysk> LaSSarD, so next time be objective
[05:10] <magpie> i did follow them...sigh
[05:10] <LaSSarD> thoreauputic, using it right now without the extra programs
[05:10] <jonny> can someone please explain to me how to put ubuntu on an xbox?
[05:10] <dooglus> spacemoose: umount the cd with "umount -l".  then you can eject it
[05:10] <rob_p> egoleo:  What's up? :-)
[05:10] <soundray> CyberDoo, any live CD's lying around? Knoppix, Kanotix, DSL?
[05:10] <egoleo> yeah
[05:10] <SAM_theman> Uncompressing Unreal Tournament 2004 for GNU/Linux Demo 3334.....
[05:10] <SAM_theman> Second stage unpacker running...
[05:10] <SAM_theman> Starting actual installer...
[05:10] <SAM_theman> open /dev/[sound/] dsp: No such file or directory
[05:10] <dooglus> spacemoose: I use this alias:  alias eject='cd; sudo umount -l /media/cdrom; sudo eject'
[05:10] <CyberDoo> jonny, there are several howtos to installing linux on the xbox.
[05:11] <SAM_theman> no sound???
[05:11] <xTina> Hm. Anyone know offhand what has changed in Breezy that makes an USB keyboard no longer work with Grub (worked fine in Hoary, no hardware or BIOS modifications since)?
[05:11] <Jxpx> tritium,   so i cant use it?
[05:11] <CyberDoo> soundray, yeah Knoppix 3.2.
[05:11] <egoleo> i want to know all the nitigrities to setup a linuxbox as a router
[05:11] <jonny> CyberDoo: does ubuntu work fine?
[05:11] <tritium> Jxpx, I never said that
[05:11] <matw> When I try to run a GL program (e.g. glxgears) the windows are black and don't do anything. Glxinfo hangs. My X log says DRI and DRM are installed. Any ideas?
[05:11] <soundray> CyberDoo, how's the sound if you boot from that?
[05:11] <Jxpx> tritium, but can i use it than?
[05:11] <erUSUL> SAM_theman, please *do not* paste here. is spam
[05:11] <magpie> xserver-xorg-driver-ati and xorg-driver-fglrx are both installed...is that right or do i have one too many?
[05:11] <spacemoose> dooglus, now its saying the cd isnt mounted, but i cant eject it
[05:11] <tritium> Jxpx, that's up to you
[05:11] <SAM_theman> srry
[05:11] <soundray> CyberDoo, 2.6 kernel preferably
[05:11] <rob_p> egoleo:  So I take it you installed a second network interface in it?
[05:11] <magpie> the xserver one was installed before i did anything...
[05:12] <tritium> magpie, which driver are you wanting to use?  The free one, or the binary one from ATI?
[05:12] <CyberDoo> jonny, I've not heard someone installing ubuntu on xbox. Since there is only a 500mb hard drive, its more a custom image that you install.
[05:12] <Jxpx> tritium, i dont speak good english so i dont understand very much
[05:12] <Jxpx> tritium,  can u explain me?
[05:12] <Jxpx> :d
[05:12] <monkey__> curious if anyone is having "Connection timed out" issues with the package manager, i'm also having problems with firefox's connection timing out.
[05:12] <magpie> the free one since it seems simpler to install
[05:12] <dooglus> spacemoose: look closely and you'll see there's a small hole in the cd drive's door.  poke an unfolded paperclip in there and it'll eject
[05:12] <tritium> Jxpx, no problem.  Sorry, I don't play any games, and know nothing about cedega
[05:12] <spacemoose> dooglus, ok
[05:12] <magpie> let me reboot and see what i've got
[05:12] <deFrysk> Jxpx, your question is in no way related to ubuntu so please take it somewhere else
[05:12] <SAM_theman> i do
[05:12] <tritium> magpie, no need to reboot
[05:12] <magpie> oh
[05:12] <LaSSarD> matw, does you video card support opengl?
[05:12] <CyberDoo> soundray, I'll download the latest version and give it a spin. It would eliminate any hardware problems, as well as possible 2.6 kernel problems.
[05:12] <egoleo> how do i install a second network interface
[05:12] <dooglus> spacemoose: you tried "sudo eject" first,right?
[05:13] <magpie> so i need both those drivers?
[05:13] <deFrysk> Jxpx, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:13] <matw> LaSSarD, yes its ati
[05:13] <tritium> magpie, just check /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and see what driver it's using first
[05:13] <magpie> see what i'm saying?
[05:13] <tritium> no, you only need one of those
[05:13] <magpie> k
[05:13] <soundray> CyberDoo, good luck
[05:13] <CyberDoo> soundray, thanks.
[05:13] <rob_p> egoleo:  You power down, open the box, and install a network interface adapter in one of the pci slots.
[05:13] <LaSSarD> matw, just a sec i'll search for a command that shows if opengl is installed correctly
[05:13] <egoleo> oh ok
[05:13] <matw> LaSSarD, The accelleration works on 5.10i386, but not on 5.10amd64
[05:14] <LaSSarD> matw, humm may be that
[05:14] <egoleo> so it means i should more than one network card right
[05:14] <tritium> btw, /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is in the package "xserver-xorg-core"
[05:14] <spacemoose> dooglus, yes
[05:14] <egoleo> aside the one i am using now
[05:14] <LaSSarD> is ubuntuforums down?
[05:14] <soundray> rob_p, egoleo, you can have two or more software interfaces on one NIC
[05:14] <matw> LaSSarD, I can't figure out what to try
[05:14] <magpie> under Device, driver it says fglrx
[05:14] <vorpulus> If I install wine with sudo apt-get install wine in console, where can I find it?
[05:14] <deFrysk> !info wine
[05:14] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14131 kB, Installed size: 55484 kB
[05:14] <monkey__> LaSSarD-- It seems that way, i've been trying to get on for a little while
[05:15] <dooglus> vorpulus: wine is /usr/bin/wine
[05:15] <tritium> magpie, okay, you're using the binary one.  Did you follow the BinaryDriverHowto for installing that?
[05:15] <matw> LaSSarD yes
[05:15] <welp> vorpulus, type winecfg
[05:15] <vorpulus> thanks dooglus
[05:15] <magpie> i installed it through synaptic
[05:15] <spacemoose> dooglus, well now it seems that it wont read the second cd now
[05:15] <rob_p> soundray:  Yes.  That's true.  IP address aliases.  However, he wants to set up NAT for his local area network.
[05:15] <LaSSarD> shit... i'm missing ubuntuforums, it helps a lot
[05:15] <magpie> i didn't do anything in terminal
[05:15] <egoleo> so how do i do that
[05:15] <welp> vorpulus, nm
[05:15] <vorpulus> welp, what do I do after doing that??
[05:15] <matw> LaSSarD, I feel your pain. :)
[05:15] <tritium> LaSSarD, please, that's the third time you've used that word.  Try not to please
[05:15] <vorpulus> I've done it now welp :p
[05:15] <IRC> how much ram is required to run ubuntu 5.04?
[05:16] <welp> vorpulus, what exactly did you want to do?
[05:16] <tritium> !tell magpie about ati
[05:16] <soundray> rob_p, I mean interface aliases, as in eth0:1, eth0:2...
[05:16] <LaSSarD> tritium, sorry :P
[05:16] <vorpulus> just find where wine was installed
[05:16] <deFrysk> IRC, I think gnome needs 128 meg ram
[05:16] <thoreauputic> IRC: preferably at least 128MB
[05:16] <tritium> magpie, please follow that wiki page carefully
[05:16] <erUSUL> egoleo, you can have eth0:0 eth0:1 etc
[05:16] <tritium> thanks, LaSSarD :)
[05:16] <rob_p> soundray:  Yup!
[05:16] <LaSSarD> ;)
[05:16] <magpie> reading now
[05:16] <vorpulus> welp, I'm using the instructions on: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=17
[05:16] <soundray> rob_p, worked fine for NAT when I tried it many moons ago...
[05:16] <deFrysk> IRC, if you use xfce4 you'll need 64 meg ram
[05:16] <IRC> can i run ubuntu on 48 mb?
[05:16] <welp> vorpulus, ok
[05:16] <egoleo> ok
[05:16] <deFrysk> IRC, barely
[05:16] <dooglus> LaSSarD: Step two: instead of s**t say poo, as in "Bullpoo!", "Poohead!" and "This poo is cold."
[05:17] <IRC> defrysk: can i run ubuntu on a p1
[05:17] <deFrysk> iratsu, barely
[05:17] <LaSSarD> dooglus, ok, don't know what poo means but anyway i'm gonna do that :P
[05:17] <rob_p> soundray:  If you want to walk egoleo through the process, feel free.  I've never done NAT using a single physical nic.  I imagine it's possible though.  Just never done it.
[05:17] <deFrysk> IRC, but some people take pride in doing so
[05:17] <vorpulus> Change to the location where the WineCVS.sh is lying and start it with:
[05:17] <vorpulus> sh WineCVS.sh - how do I do that?
[05:18] <soundray> rob_p, sorry, didn't mean to barge in.
[05:18] <matw> tritium, what is tha URL for the ati wiki page?
[05:18] <dooglus> LaSSarD: it's from a song about how to stop using foul language: http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/southparkbiggerlonger&uncut/itseasymmmkay.htm
[05:18] <rob_p> soundray:  I've always used multiple physical interfaces.  Oh and no worries.  You're not barging in!  :-)
[05:18] <tritium> !tell matw about ati
[05:18] <soundray> rob_p, egoleo, two NIC's is the best solution if it's an option.
[05:18] <IRC> defrysk: i have a laptop running win98 with 48mb of ram and a p1, will it work with ubuntu
[05:18] <Blake_Seven> Any ideas how best to secure ssh from hacking ?
[05:18] <magpie> mj@ubuntu:~$ sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx
[05:18] <magpie> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[05:18] <rob_p> soundray:  I wholeheartedly agree!
[05:19] <egoleo> so ok
[05:19] <magpie> i'm gonna reboot
[05:19] <egoleo> soundary
[05:19] <deFrysk> IRC, as I said barely
[05:19] <matw> tritium, thanks! I have to take notes
[05:19] <mario_> Hi all!
[05:19] <egoleo> so how do i create a new
[05:19] <tritium> matw, :)
[05:19] <egoleo> so how do i create a new
[05:19] <IRC> defrysk: will ubuntu stop me from installing if it doesnt meet the requirements?
[05:19] <vorpulus> Can someone please tell me how to do this: Change to the location where the WineCVS.sh is lying and start it with:
[05:19] <vorpulus> sh WineCVS.sh
[05:20] <deFrysk> IRC, nope it wont, you can always try...
[05:20] <mario_> May I bother you with w simple newby question?
[05:20] <deFrysk> IRC, might take a while tho so be patient
[05:20] <tritium> mario_, anyone is free to ask a question :)
[05:20] <loufoque> mario_: you may but we may not answer
[05:20] <egoleo> so how do i create a new one
[05:20] <mario_> Thanks, I know this...
[05:20] <loufoque> a new what egoleo
[05:21] <IRC> defrysk: will it work with only 1.34 gb of hd space
[05:21] <rob_p> soundray:  I do have a couple of co-lo'd servers in the US that have multiple interface aliases and IP addresses on a single physical NIC.  However, they aren't configured to provide any NAT services at all.
[05:21] <egoleo> a new NIC
[05:21] <erUSUL> vorpulus, cd /dir and then sh WineCVS.sh
[05:21] <deFrysk> IRC, also I would download xubuntu to avoid packages like openoffice witch wont run for sure and are only time and spaceconsuming on your pc
[05:21] <deFrysk> IRC, your spect are pretty low
[05:21] <loufoque> you mean Network Interface Card ?
[05:21] <mario_> I am completely new to Gnome (Kde before, on Mandake, so I am new to Ubuntu too...
[05:21] <egoleo> soundray
[05:21] <deFrysk> specs
[05:21] <egoleo> rob_P
[05:21] <soundray> egoleo, ?
[05:21] <egoleo> i said how
[05:21] <gnugeek> ubuntu
[05:22] <egoleo> do i create it
[05:22] <IRC> defrysk: its an old pc and i want to see if it can be done
[05:22] <deFrysk> IRC, best bet would be downloading xubuntu in your case
[05:22] <gnugeek> I cant start pppoe at boot in the breezy
[05:22] <mario_> ... what I cannot fin is how to activate the dead keys in my kbd...
[05:22] <tritium> mario_, you can still use KDE, ik you prefer
[05:22] <gnugeek> can anyone help
[05:22] <IRC> defrysk: ok thanks
[05:22] <soundray> rob_p, when I worked with iface aliases, ipchains was current.
[05:22] <gnugeek> anyone here?
[05:22] <mario_> Actually I was thinjing to swutch to Gnome after Gnome 2.10
[05:22] <loufoque> mario_: what are the dead keys ?
[05:22] <rob_p> egoleo:  I use a script to do it for me at boot time.  Each alias requires 2 commands.
[05:23] <egoleo> ok
[05:23] <soundray> rob_p, there was a Debian package that set it up more or less automatically.
[05:23] <Blake_Seven> What is the name of the script that protects ssh from to many login atempts ?
[05:23] <loufoque> ^ <-- is this a dead key ?
[05:23] <deFrysk> ^
[05:23] <deFrysk> nope
[05:23] <makno> guys i keep etting this error: debootstrap terminated with error code 1. check /target/var/log/bootstrap
[05:23] <makno> any help?
[05:23] <tritium> it's alive!
[05:23] <mario_> Dead keys are those that allow to wrice diacritical marks, like accents, in many languages...
[05:23] <rob_p> soundray:  I see.  Sounds interesting.  Yeah, I remember writing my first firewall.  It used ipchains.
[05:23] <gnugeek> I cant start pppoe at boot in the breezy
[05:23] <loufoque> makno: you should check that file
[05:23] <soundray> rob_p, without that, it was a pain to configure and I don't think it's become any easier...
[05:23] <topyli> yes, ^ is a dead key with my keyboard at least
[05:23] <gnugeek> I cant start pppoe at boot in the breezy, help please
[05:23] <gnugeek> please
[05:24] <loufoque> mario_: they all work for me
[05:24] <loufoque> are you using GNOME ?
[05:24] <vorpulus> erUSUL, I used sudo apt-get install wine
[05:24] <gnugeek> me? I'm using gnome
[05:24] <dooglus> gnugeek: to run stuff at boot, add it to the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[05:24] <mario_> I selected Us keyboard with dead keys in the delection menu, but it does not work...
[05:24] <rob_p> soundray:  I love iptables over ipchains... much more flexibility and feature-packed!
[05:24] <vorpulus> erUSUL, where would that put it?
[05:24] <deFrysk>  can be produced with deadkeys like ' and then an e
[05:24] <loufoque> System > Preferences > Keyboard
[05:24] <egoleo> rob_P?
[05:24] <tritium> mario_, did you check out System->Preferences->Keyboard?
[05:24] <spacemoose> anyone know how to mount a .bin on linux?
[05:25] <makno> loufoque how do i check it?
[05:25] <tritium> spacedman, mount it?  Do you mean run it?
[05:25] <dooglus> mario_: you're probably coming up against a known bug: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15372
[05:25] <gnugeek> i've to always run pppoeconf to start pppoe
[05:25] <spacemoose> tritium, whatever it takes to run the program
[05:25] <mario_> Yep, tritium, is what I do... changes to Us_itnl-w/deadkeys... but not working
[05:25] <deFrysk> ' produces nothing but ' en e produce an  hence ' is a dead key in this case
[05:25] <spacemoose> tritium, on windows, i use daemon tools
[05:25] <dooglus> gnugeek: did you see what I wrote?
[05:25] <tritium> mario_, okay, sorry.  I've never used deadkeys
[05:25] <loufoque> mario_: you may want to select a 105 key keyboard
[05:25] <rob_p> soundray:  In fact, I wrote an Ubuntu firewall script recenty.  You can visit the Website here if you want:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/14/29/
[05:25] <mario_> dooglus, any workaround for it?
[05:26] <soundray> rob_p: These days, I leave such tasks to the router with Sveasoft f/w...
[05:26] <loufoque> mario_: browse the different locales to see what the keys are
[05:26] <dooglus> mario_: there are several mentioned in the bts.  read the link I pasted
[05:26] <mario_> This is a Thoshiba Laptop...
[05:26] <soundray> rob_p, thanks, I'll have a look...
[05:26] <loufoque> you should be able to see keyboards with all the characters you can type on each key
[05:26] <magpie> well now xserver won't start
[05:26] <mario_> Thanks dooglus, I' ll try
[05:26] <rob_p> soundray:  It's taylored for Ubuntu and has NAT capabilities, etc.  Useful for some... not for others!
[05:27] <magpie> says fatal server error module failed to load
[05:27] <Potterwins> do i have to remount my floppy everytime i want to use it?
[05:27] <spacemoose> anyone know?
[05:27] <magpie> dri, drm and fglrx seemed to load
[05:27] <mario_> loufoque, I see them, but the dk does not work...
[05:27] <juan> hola, como puedo escuchar mp3 en ubuntu?
[05:27] <tritium> !es
[05:27] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:27] <tritium> !tell juan about mp3
[05:27] <spacemoose> !tell me about .bin
[05:28] <Potterwins> anybody know if i have to mount my floppy everytime i want to use it?
[05:28] <soundray> Potterwins, only if you unmount it or take it out.
[05:28] <tritium> spacemoose, you should be able to "./foo.bin".  (you may need to chmod +x foo.bin first)
[05:28] <matw> magpie, did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[05:28] <ompaul> spacemoose, sh foo.bin usually works but be careful
[05:28] <Potterwins> didn't do that
[05:28] <soundray> Potterwins, sounds like you might want to look at mtools.
[05:28] <Potterwins> but it doesn't read the floppy
[05:28] <magpie> i think that's the output i was looking at...
[05:28] <Potterwins> mtools?
[05:28] <tritium> Potterwins, you're using gnome?
[05:28] <matw> magpie, ok
[05:28] <Potterwins> yea
[05:29] <ompaul> Potterwins, sudo apt-get install mtools; mdir
[05:29] <mario_> Thanks... I will try your suggestions...
[05:29] <ompaul> Potterwins,  mcopy foo
[05:29] <spacemoose> tritium,  tried that wont work
[05:29] <spacemoose> ompaul, ill try that
[05:29] <welp> how do i get fonts?
[05:29] <matw> magpie, I was suggesting that only to provide a hint as to where to search for the problem
[05:29] <magpie> if fglrx is loaded, what other module failed to load?
[05:29] <tritium> spacemoose, then there is a problem with the file
[05:29] <welp> M$ fonts....
[05:29] <magpie> the only hint i get is module load failure...lol
[05:29] <spacemoose> tritium, its a game that needs to be mounted
[05:30] <spacemoose> tritium, a pseudo cd
[05:30] <deFrysk> !tell welp about msttcorefonts
[05:30] <tritium> spacedman, a .bin doesn't sound like a mountable image
[05:30] <spacemoose> tritium, it is in windows
[05:30] <spacemoose> tritium, thats what daemon tools is for
[05:30] <tritium> what type of filesystem?
[05:30] <stratovarius> hey all
[05:30] <spacemoose> tritium, i dont follow, filesystem?
[05:31] <matw> magpie, can you run dpkg-reconfigure and switch back to the ati module?
[05:31] <tritium> spacemoose, not you
[05:31] <vorpulus> Anyone, if I use sudo apt-get install wine , where will it go? I found wine in /usr/bin after someone told me it was there... but apparently I'm looking for WineCVS.sh
[05:31] <stratovarius> hey all
[05:31] <tritium> magpie, what's the problem with fglrx?
[05:31] <SAM_theman> error: Can't open default OpenAL device.
[05:31] <vorpulus> hey
[05:31] <spacemoose> tritium, oh
[05:31] <Potterwins> okies its installed ompaul  now what do i do withit?
[05:31] <magpie> i don't know what the problem is
[05:31] <tritium> magpie, did you check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[05:31] <magpie> dri, drm and fglrx are all loaded
[05:32] <welp> deFrysk, wtf?
[05:32] <magpie> that output just said module load failure
[05:32] <stratovarius> guys I installed america's amry and if I try to load it from console it says me "segmentation fault".what is this problem and how to solve it?thx
[05:32] <dabaR__> welp: you should have a private message from ubotu explaining the fonts thing.
[05:32] <tritium> Potterwins, System->Preferences->Removable Drives and Media settings don't affect floppies?
[05:32] <deFrysk> welp, yes ?
[05:32] <SAM_theman> error: Can't open default OpenAL device.
[05:32] <dooglus> I installed america's army and they keep torturing me and raping my sister.  Can I uninstall them?
[05:33] <welp> i did
[05:33] <welp> can i have it again?
[05:33] <tritium> dooglus, try to be appropriate
[05:33] <rob_p> egoleo:  So I guess you want to know how to establish interface aliases...  Again, it's easier if you just write a script to do it for you.  The commands would be, "sudo /sbin/ifconfig eth0:0 <ip addr> netmask <network mask> broadcast <bcast addr>" and then, "/sbin/route add -host <ip address> eth0:0" which would create an interface of eth0:0 with the ip specified.
[05:33] <deFrysk> Welp what again ?
[05:33] <dooglus> tritium: that's what I said to them
[05:33] <vorpulus> dooglus, I can't find WineCVS in the same directory as Wine. Any ideas?
[05:33] <Potterwins> doesn't appear to apply tritium
[05:33] <ompaul> Potterwins, mdir a: mcopy and such like lots of stuff in there and it is all documented in the man pages >>man mtools<< you can do a lot with it
[05:33] <tritium> Potterwins, odd...
[05:33] <welp> deFrysk, the bot
[05:33] <deFrysk> !tell welp about msttcorefonts
[05:33] <magpie> specify a package to reconfigure?
[05:34] <dooglus> vorpulus: wine CVS is the version of wine that's in CVS - so you should "cvs checkout" to get it
[05:34] <Potterwins> there is nothing in there about floppy drive tritium
[05:34] <tritium> Potterwins, no, but about removable drives
[05:34] <matw> magpie, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:34] <deFrysk> Potterwins, you have a floppy in your drive ?
[05:34] <magpie> thanks
[05:34] <soundray> rob_p, I'm tempted to build a firewall again with your script. It'll feel like in the olden days...
[05:34] <Potterwins> yea
[05:34] <tritium> dooglus, this is not the place for that
[05:34] <vorpulus> dooglus, I'm a real noob and don't know what means to do
[05:34] <Potterwins> there is a floppy in it
[05:34] <welp> it didn't work....
[05:34] <deFrysk> ok , just checking
[05:35] <dooglus> vorpulus: CVS is a source code control system.  It's what developers use to work on code while getting it ready for release.  You can get the code they're working on from CVS, but it's not ready for general use yet (or it would have been released).
[05:35] <deFrysk> welp, what did not work ?
[05:35] <rob_p> soundray:  I like using a linux box as a NAT router for the extra possibilities it affords at the gateway!
[05:36] <welp> installing the fonts, deFrysk
[05:36] <makno> guys i keep etting this error: debootstrap terminated with error code 1. check /target/var/log/bootstrap but there is nothing there
[05:36] <magpie> autodetect video hardware?
[05:36] <tritium> magpie, did you check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[05:36] <matw> magpie, go for it.
[05:37] <deFrysk> welp, have universe and multiverse repositories set up ?
[05:37] <welp> no...
[05:37] <welp> one sec
[05:37] <magpie> yes i did check that but i don't know what i'm looking for...
[05:37] <deFrysk> ok
[05:37] <tritium> magpie, errors
[05:37] <deFrysk> !tell welp about repositories
[05:37] <magpie> the error was failed to load module
[05:38] <rob_p> soundray:  My home DSL connection goes through an Ubuntu Linux NAT routing gateway which provides firewalling, bandwidth throttling/prioritization, transparent http proxy (thanks again to iptables), and dhcp service to the internal hosts on my LAN.
[05:38] <tritium> magpie, please paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin
[05:38] <SAM_theman> error: Can't open default OpenAL device.
[05:38] <matw> magpie, I found that accepting most of the defaults were harmless. You can always run it again later and make a different choice
[05:38] <soundray> rob_p: can your router act as a wireless AP, too?
[05:38] <welp> deFrysk, it keeps saying syntax error in line 1
[05:38] <magpie> select xserver driver...ati or fglrx?
[05:38] <rob_p> soundray:  Yes, as long as you have the hostap stuff loaded.  Either that or just put an access point on one of the interfaces!
[05:38] <deFrysk> welp, post your sources.list in pastebin
[05:39] <matw> magpie, try either
[05:39] <magpie> k
[05:39] <soundray> rob_p, are you running some kind of business from home? How many employees? :)
[05:39] <egoleo> thnx
[05:39] <vorpulus> SAM_theman, can I PM you?
[05:39] <egoleo> thnx rob_P
[05:39] <SAM_theman> yup
[05:39] <SAM_theman> np
[05:39] <egoleo> so whats next?
[05:39] <magpie> kenter an identifier for you video card?
[05:39] <magpie> *enter
[05:39] <rob_p> soundray:  Nope! :-)  Just my Wife's PC, the kids PC (hence the need for the transparent proxy), and my laptop.
[05:39] <Huffers> magpie, use the default, I don't think it matters
[05:39] <deFrysk> welp, sources.list is in /etc/apt/sources.list , and no privating please
[05:39] <magpie> k
[05:40] <Huffers> so long as you're consistent with it
[05:40] <Jalexster> Well, the Breezy installation went smooth, except for a few kinks during downloading the packages (such as my DSL connection doing it's routine reset every 24 hours).
[05:40] <rob_p> soundray:  The proxy keeps the kids somewhat safer since squid has nice content filtering capabilities.
[05:40] <soundray> rob_p: I see, parental control. Do you review the logs, or do you filter...
[05:40] <azeem> heya. Is it possible to use Suspend-to-Disk from the Live-CD, do I perhaps have to tweak some settings for that?
[05:40] <soundray> rob_p okay, that answers it.
[05:40] <welp> deFrysk, i thought people were supposed to encourage PMing according to staff...
[05:40] <egoleo> whats next rob_P
[05:40] <Jalexster> Oh, and a brief moment where I decided to compare my old and new configuration files, and didn't know how to leave the text editor
[05:40] <rob_p> soundray:  Mostly just filter.
[05:40] <egoleo> i have done what u gave me
[05:40] <saasta> hi, i tried to install breezy, but in the "installing base system" it gives an error, and the backgroud turns red, is there any tips how to skip this, i checked the md sum and it was alright
[05:40] <tritium> magpie, still waiting for you to paste your Xorg.0.log
[05:41] <Jalexster> Breezy is nice. Apart from the fact that it broke my SNES emulator.
[05:41] <matw> tritium, magpie is runing dpkg-reconfigure
[05:41] <deFrysk> welp, this is a help channel so privating is not something others can benifit from
[05:41] <welp> oh
[05:41] <Jalexster> Ah, I can just use that on my iBook instead. Except that's not hooked up to a TV for that genuine experiance.
[05:42] <niekniek> hello! i have a question. i use sshfs to mount a remote filesystem. so far no problem. but now i wan't to be able to access this remote mounted filesystem through smb. as soon as i mount the share with sshfs it disappeares in the samba share.
[05:42] <welp> where do i save fonts to?
[05:42] <deFrysk> welp, and who is "staff" ?\
[05:42] <vorpulus> SAM_theman, are you there??
[05:42] <rob_p> egoleo:  Nothing against you personally... However, I really don't have the time (or patience) to walk you through the steps of setting up such a nonstandard NAT solution.  The best I can do is offer the info I've already given and the NAT script.
[05:42] <SAM_theman> yup
[05:42] <SAM_theman> been here
[05:42] <Favio_Crass> c.cl
[05:42] <vorpulus> SAM_theman, can you see a tab at the bottom with my name?
[05:42] <SAM_theman> trying to figure out why i can't play CW
[05:42] <SAM_theman> yup
[05:42] <vorpulus> SAM_theman, I tried to PM you but I don't know if it worked... ahok
[05:42] <saasta> okay, no answers for my question, so i'll ask another one, how to upgrade hoary to breezy without the cd?
[05:42] <tritium> welp, nobody ever encouraged PMing
[05:43] <egoleo> ok
[05:43] <egoleo> thnx
[05:43] <egoleo> and i appreciate it
[05:43] <welp> tritium and deFrysk one sec...
[05:43] <tritium> !tell egoleo about enter
[05:43] <egoleo> but after here can continue with the setting the router
[05:44] <welp> where do i save fonts to?
[05:44] <rob_p> egoleo:  No problem!  Good luck with it.  Do look into separate physical network interfaces for your NAT box.  NIC's are cheap (less than $10 US).
[05:44] <rob_p> egoleo:  Anyway, take care.
[05:44] <SAM_theman> can u hear me?
[05:45] <sam__> hello
[05:45] <tritium> welp, open up System->Preferences->Font, click on "Details", and then "Go to font folder", and drop them in there...
[05:45] <egoleo> ok
[05:45] <SAM_theman> hello sam__
[05:45] <egoleo> but the eth0:0
[05:45] <egoleo> is created anyway
[05:45] <tritium> !tell egoleo about enter
[05:45] <tritium> (again)
[05:45] <egoleo> how
[05:49] <magpie> well i messed something up with the monitor because now i get out of range...geez\
[05:49] <dabaR__> turn it off then on.
[05:49] <magpie> if i can't get a screen, how can i fix it?
[05:49] <dabaR__> just to see whether it helps...
[05:49] <magpie> i did on/off/on
[05:49] <Huffers> hey magpie, whats the problem?
[05:50] <magpie> i reconfigures xserver
[05:50] <Huffers> why?
[05:50] <magpie> but i must have entered wrong info for monitor
[05:50] <magpie> why?
[05:50] <Huffers> google for your monitor and find its info maybe
[05:50] <dabaR__> magpie: this is obviously a different computer, right?
[05:50] <magpie> but how do i get back in to fix it
[05:51] <Huffers> I had fun with monitors, refresh rates and drivers for a bit
[05:51] <magpie> i have no screen
[05:51] <magpie> i was so close too
[05:51] <matw> magpie, when you reboot you have no screen?
[05:51] <magpie> must have been the refresh rate
[05:51] <magpie> yeah, reboot no screen
[05:51] <magpie> let me try again...
[05:51] <matw> magpie, do you have a console login now?
[05:52] <Stormx2> I'm running a lamp configuration. Is it possible to mount my music folder onto my www section?
[05:52] <magpie> ah...maybe i didn't reboot before
[05:52] <magpie> i think i'm anticipating failure!
[05:52] <dabaR__> magpie: I doubt it.
[05:53] <matw> magpie, you can ctrl-alt-backspace to restart x. No need to reboot al th etime
[05:53] <magpie> spoke too soon...i had ubuntu screen but now says out of range
[05:53] <soundray> Cheers
[05:53] <dabaR__> Stormx2: what are you asking, is it that you would like to share your music on the net through your web server?
[05:53] <SAM_theman> brb
[05:53] <Huffers> ok, magpie, do you know what refresh rates and resolutions your monitor supports?
[05:53] <matw> magpie, do you have a console at least?
[05:54] <magpie> well i thought i did...i have a copy of stuff i d/l off viewsonic site
[05:54] <magpie> i have no console
[05:54] <nxvl> hi
[05:54] <magpie> is there some way to get one while i have the screen that shows ubuntu loading?
[05:55] <matw> magpie, can you enter a command at all right now?
[05:55] <nxvl> i have just install the doc-rfc packages with apt, but i dont know how to use them, does anybody knows?
[05:55] <magpie> no i can't
[05:55] <thoreauputic> magpie: try hitting ctrl-alt-F2 to get a prompt
[05:55] <dabaR__> reboot with live cd.
[05:55] <magpie> k
[05:55] <magpie> excellent!
[05:56] <magpie> i have to write that one down
[05:56] <Huffers> heh
[05:56] <Stormx2> dabaR__: The music i've made, yes.
[05:56] <thoreauputic> magpie: you can login and rerun  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or whatver
[05:56] <Huffers> shouldn't magpie just edit his /etc/X11/corg.conf directly?
[05:56] <Huffers> after making a backup first maybe
[05:56] <Stormx2> dabaR__: And at any rate, sharing copyrighted music is fine so long as it is deleted after 24hrs
[05:57] <thoreauputic> Huffers: the command I gave is the "correct" way
[05:57] <Huffers> yeah, but it never works or is as easy :-P
[05:57] <matw> editing the config file directly always messes me up. I don't know what I'm doing though.
[05:57] <Huffers> heh
[05:57] <SAM_theman> o..man
[05:57] <thoreauputic> Huffers: always works for me...
[05:57] <SAM_theman> this sucks
[05:57] <Huffers> I find it the other way round
[05:57] <magpie> i think i messed up the refresh rates
[05:58] <Huffers> sounds like either that or the resolution
[05:58] <matw> use what you got for your monitor off the web
[05:58] <Tokenizer> someone please help as i have spent the past 5 hours trying to get WiFi working on Acer Ferrari 4005 laptop..... there is a tutorial here (http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~weckerl/ferrari_ubuntu_64.html) which i followed with no problem, however supposedly after following steps outlined in that tutorial, i shoudl have my WiFi working... the thing is that it doesn't work, ie, it doesn't come on (meaning the light indicating WiFi is off, also that adapter
[05:58] <Tokenizer> has no ip assigned to it)....
[05:58] <thoreauputic> magpie: if you have your monitor handbook , look them up
[05:58] <smi|e> Tokenizer: You installed ndiswrapper?
[05:59] <Tokenizer> yah
[05:59] <Tokenizer> worked fine
[05:59] <smi|e> Tokenizer: You installed the driver?
[05:59] <smi|e> using ndiswrapper
[05:59] <Tokenizer> "ndiswrapper -l"
[05:59] <smi|e> Yes.
[05:59] <Tokenizer> that shows it works fine
[05:59] <smi|e> Ok.
[05:59] <magpie> this is what it says: Frequency Fh:30~62kHz, Fv:50~85Hz
[05:59] <Stormx2> I'm running a lamp configuration. Is it possible to mount my a directory onto my www section?
[05:59] <Tokenizer> i actually assign network key and see wireless networks..... however it doesn't come on
[05:59] <smi|e> Tokenizer: Should work then.
[05:59] <Tokenizer> that's the thing, it doesn't
[05:59] <magpie> but i don't see refresh rate...
[05:59] <smi|e> Tokenizer: Works for me.
[05:59] <smi|e> Tokenizer: You checked compatibility?
[05:59] <smi|e> With Your card
[05:59] <matw> magpie, so eneter 30-60 and 50-85 using the "advanced" option when prompted
[05:59] <smi|e> !wireless
[05:59] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:59] <thoreauputic> magpie: well, use those figures in the dpkg-reconfigure
[05:59] <jonny> is there a solution to podcasts in linux besides ipodder?
[05:59] <smi|e> Tokenizer: Check this site
[05:59] <Tokenizer> i do this at terminal "ip addr" and see that the wifi adapter has no ip assigned to it
[06:00] <smi|e> ubotu tell Tokenizer about wireless
[06:00] <matw> magpie, that's the second pair of numbers
[06:00] <smi|e> Full instructions there, that's what i followed Tokenizer
[06:00] <matw> magpie, sorry! first pair
[06:00] <little_bob> hi. english webforum is down?
[06:00] <Huffers> horizontal and vertical sync from the looks of it
[06:00] <magpie> refresh is 50~85?  ok
[06:00] <matw> magpie, I'm confused
[06:00] <magpie> me too
[06:00] <dabaR__> little_bob: what is english web forum?
[06:00] <makno> anyone can help me with this error? debootstrap terminated with error code 1. check /target/var/log/bootstrap but there is nothing there
[06:01] <magpie> Fh is horizontal, Fv is vertical
[06:01] <Tokenizer> smile, you have same laptop?
[06:01] <little_bob> dabaR: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[06:01] <Potterwins> okies can someone offer some advice with my floppy
[06:01] <Potterwins> i can see it
[06:01] <matw> magpie, my vertical refresh is 56-75, max screen refresh is 75 Hz
[06:01] <Tokenizer> my other laptop works fine.... but it's not an Acer Ferrari 4005, .... it's this fuker that thas issues
[06:01] <Potterwins> but it's properties are the same as one of my hard drives
[06:01] <magpie> so my vertical refresh is 50~85 i guess
[06:02] <matw> magpie, sounds right
[06:02] <magpie> let me see what i entered for it...
[06:02] <Potterwins> i can't seem to find anything on wiki about my problem
[06:02] <Tokenizer> smile: what version of Ubuntu you have?
[06:03] <jonny> is there a solution to podcasts in linux besides ipodder?
[06:03] <Potterwins> i've tried    mount /location of floppy
[06:03] <soke> just made my first ubuntu install on a Toshiba A10, during the install (in console mode) it showed modes my comp. is capable of 1900x.... etc. but when it booted i only see 640x480.. nothing higher,  how do i change this?
[06:03] <Potterwins> but it tells me that i haven't specified a file system
[06:04] <thoreauputic> Potterwins: in /etc/fstab ,  try
[06:04] <thoreauputic> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  vfat    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[06:04] <thoreauputic> works here
[06:04] <Potterwins> should /etc/fstab be the location of my floppy
[06:05] <Potterwins> mine is in /media
[06:05] <deFrysk> soke, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and have your run defaults exept for monitor-spect wich you need to have at your disposal
[06:05] <thoreauputic> Potterwins: no, that file tells the system its attributes and where to mount it
[06:05] <jonny> okay, I need help wit ipoder on ubuntu
[06:05] <deFrysk> monitor-specs*
[06:05] <Potterwins> k
[06:05] <Potterwins> brb
[06:06] <dude> hey how do i install codecs for 5.10
[06:06] <thoreauputic> !codecs
[06:06] <ubotu> it has been said that codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:06] <roshan> How do I find which package owns a particular file on my filesystem? Thanks.
[06:06] <deFrysk> hey dude is a song of beatallica :)
[06:06] <makno> do you see my messages?
[06:07] <qos> can somebody take a look at this? my mldonkey dont starts ... http://pastebin.com/418319
[06:07] <thoreauputic> roshan:  dpkg -S filename
[06:07] <roshan> thanks, thoreauputic
[06:07] <slew> where can i download libstdc++.so.5?
[06:07] <soke> deFrysk, it also asks for amount of video ram (which i dont know) any idea if I should leave it blank or enter something?
[06:07] <Potterwins> okies sorry thoreauputic ..... i'm still a newbie
[06:08] <Potterwins> did you want me to cd to etc/fstab
[06:08] <thoreauputic> Potterwins: no worries :)
[06:08] <thoreauputic> no
[06:08] <dabaR__> slew: /msg ubotu find linstdc++
[06:08] <thoreauputic> Potterwins:  sudo gedit /etc/fstab and edit the floppy line
[06:08] <magpie> brb
[06:08] <deFrysk> slew, sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[06:08] <axel> Help, someone knows why I cant change my mp3 tags in Rythmbox ?
[06:08] <deFrysk> soke, run the default
[06:09] <thoreauputic> axel: because rhythmbox doesn't have that functionality (yet)
[06:09] <axel> arf ok
[06:09] <slew> deFrysk, that dosent work, says couldnt find package ...
[06:09] <thoreauputic> axel: you might try amarok, or install " tagtool "
[06:09] <deFrysk> !info libstdc++5
[06:09] <magpie> ok...back at desktop
[06:09] <deFrysk> ?
[06:09] <axel> thoreauputic, ok thank you
[06:10] <matw> magpie, Great!
[06:10] <slew> ubotu already running (debian, freshmeat) => exceeded allowed forked processes count (1?).
[06:10] <ubotu> slew: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[06:10] <EvilGuru> i have just upgraded to breezy, but it says that three packages have been kept back
[06:10] <magpie> now, how i see what is installed for ati?
[06:10] <dabaR__> weird.
[06:10] <matw> sounds good
[06:10] <magpie> let me get that wiki back up
[06:11] <EvilGuru> anyone know what i should do
[06:11] <Huffers> magpie, what graphics card do you have?
[06:11] <magpie> x600xt
[06:11] <Stormx> I'm running a lamp configuration. Is it possible to mount my a directory onto my www section?
[06:11] <magpie> pci-express
[06:11] <Potterwins> okies
[06:11] <matw> can I install the fglrx driver without rebooting?
[06:11] <dabaR__> EvilGuru: well, sudo aptitude upgrade, or sudo aptitude dist-upgrade may be able to get the packages upgraded.
[06:11] <Potterwins> thoreauputic,
[06:11] <deFrysk> slew, sorry, i must be missing something
[06:11] <tritium> matw, yes, you rarely need to reboot
[06:12] <Potterwins> the only difference is my file says all the same info for my floppy
[06:12] <Potterwins> accept
[06:12] <slew> deFrysk, no, /I/ missed something, the 5 afer c++
[06:12] <dabaR__> Great, the user name is mryousuf1152, and the password is wallbake. Please test it now, and tell me whether it works. Click on http://www.comcast.net/signin.jsp for the sign in screen to open in a new window. To have the page sign you in automatically every time you visit it, check off the Automatically Sign In box. A greeting will appear in the top right if the sign in is successful.
[06:12] <Potterwins> it says auto
[06:12] <slew> its working now
[06:12] <Potterwins> should i change it?
[06:12] <matw> tritium, the wiki suggests rebooting
[06:12] <thoreauputic> Potterwins: yes - change auto to vfat in the filesystem field
[06:12] <Potterwins> k
[06:12] <Potterwins> brb
[06:12] <deFrysk> slew, good , sorry
[06:13] <SAM_theman> i think i have to install FC3 now
[06:13] <slew> thanks, no worries, it was my fault =] 
[06:13] <tritium> matw, you can simply restart gdm (sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart)
[06:13] <matw> thanks!
[06:13] <SAM_theman> and go back to FC3
[06:13] <tritium> SAM_theman, what on earth for?
[06:14] <Potterwins> still does nothing
[06:14] <SAM_theman> well none seems to answer my problem or google
[06:14] <Potterwins> i shouldn't need to reboot
[06:14] <Potterwins> should i?
[06:14] <tritium> no, Potterwins
[06:14] <thoreauputic> Potterwins: type  mount /media/floppy0
[06:14] <thoreauputic> Potterwins: and see if it shows up
[06:15] <jonny> what is the plugin that allows rhythmbox to play mp3 files and where can i get it?
[06:15] <Potterwins> works now
[06:15] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:15] <SAM_theman> samuelp@BlackHawk:/usr/local/games/coldwar_demo$ ./coldwar
[06:15] <SAM_theman> open /dev/[sound/] dsp: No such file or directory
[06:15] <SAM_theman> error: Can't open default OpenAL device.
[06:15] <Potterwins> but how do i get it to automatically do that
[06:15] <deFrysk> !tell jonny about mp3
[06:15] <Potterwins> do i need to remount it everytime i restart my computer?
[06:15] <thoreauputic> Potterwins: you should be able to mount it from "computer"
[06:15] <zando> jonny, try to install gstreamer mad
[06:16] <jonny> zando: is that the plugin?
[06:16] <thoreauputic> Potterwins: why would you want a floppy to be permanently mounted?
[06:16] <roshan> SAM_theman: which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[06:16] <Potterwins> my wife uses windows
[06:16] <zando> jonny, i think
[06:16] <deFrysk> SAM_theman, ubuntu does not use /dev/dsp i beleive
[06:16] <Potterwins> and needs to print documents on my computer
[06:16] <jonny> okay, I want to get the twit podcast to my iPod, how?
[06:16] <SAM_theman> 5.10
[06:17] <magpie> looking at synaptic, this seems to be what i have installed: fglrx-contol, linux-restriced-modules-2.6.12.4-11, xorg-driver-fglrx 6.8.0-8.16.20-Oubuntu16, xserver-xorg-driver-ati 6.8.2-77
[06:17] <SAM_theman> andi am becmoing pissed
[06:17] <Potterwins> and i'm trying to get my family to convert to linux
[06:17] <Potterwins> lol
[06:17] <SAM_theman> Ut2004 won't work now
[06:17] <deFrysk> Potterwins, how old are you ?
[06:17] <Potterwins> how old am I?
[06:17] <varsedangger> hey i can get mplayer to play music but flash won't play music in my firefox
[06:17] <Potterwins> 38
[06:17] <deFrysk> yes ?
[06:17] <SAM_theman> -23
[06:17] <SAM_theman> thats how old i am
[06:17] <deFrysk> oh then you should be able to convert some of them :)
[06:18] <varsedangger> hey i' 23 two
[06:18] <slew> 31 over here
[06:18] <Potterwins> i have converted the 3 boys already
[06:18] <Potterwins> its the women
[06:18] <Potterwins> lol
[06:18] <Huffers> magpie, is the problem that you aren't getting 3d acceleration?
[06:18] <magpie> what is the command to see glxgears output?
[06:18] <SAM_theman> no i said 38-23 thats how old i am do the math
[06:18] <slew> its ALWAYS the woman
[06:18] <deFrysk> oh gees I started a stats ? chat here :s
[06:18] <axel> this is weird, i've just installed amarok and given my music folder directory but it doesnt add any song in the collection
[06:18] <Huffers> fgl_glxgears
[06:18] <magpie> i don't know what my problem is...i don't even know IF i have a problem!
[06:18] <hume> hi...is there a tool in ubuntu for resizing the desktop? setting resolution to 1024x800 rather than the 12xxx1024?
[06:18] <tritium> SAM_theman, OpenAL?  Have you installed that?
[06:18] <Huffers> glxgears
[06:18] <SAM_theman> its shows installed with synaptic
[06:18] <varsedangger> yeah my wife used my computer -- running ubuntu all night last night
[06:18] <deFrysk> hume, yes
[06:18] <jonny> whats a program for podcasts besides ipodder?
[06:18] <matw> I was going to install the fglrx package, and I discover that it is already installed as part of a linux-restricted-modules package. Is the xorg-driver-fglrx package different?
[06:18] <magpie> last night i got no output with that...
[06:18] <Potterwins> thoreauputic,  so do i need to manually mount it everytime i need to read something from floppy?
[06:18] <magpie> let me try it again
[06:19] <Huffers> magpie, try both
[06:19] <varsedangger> any ideas aobut sond in firefox?
[06:19] <zando> hume, System->Preferences
[06:19] <PadrePio> hi
[06:19] <Huffers> glxgears is without 3d acceleration, fgl_glxgears is using opengl
[06:19] <thoreauputic> Potterwins: usually you just click the icon in the "Computer" screen
[06:19] <tritium> matw, there is a kernel module in l-r-m, and an X.org driver in the other package
[06:19] <varsedangger> hello
[06:19] <PadrePio> how can I return an array and reuse it in another separate function
[06:19] <PadrePio> ?
[06:19] <Potterwins> thats what i figured it should be
[06:19] <tritium> matw, you need both
[06:19] <hume> zando, i run KDE...you know where in KDE?
[06:19] <PadrePio> in c
[06:19] <matw> Ok tritium, thanks!
[06:20] <magpie> this is all i get running glxgears:  Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:20] <Potterwins> i'm gonna reboot
[06:20] <Potterwins> brb
[06:20] <axel> Help this is weird, i've just installed amarok and given my music folder directory but it doesnt add any song in the collection
[06:20] <Rawplayer> re
[06:20] <SAM_theman> bbl i am going to install Fedora COre 3
[06:20] <zando> hume, no, try to take a look in kcontrol
[06:20] <tritium> SAM_theman, try intsalling your OpenAL stuff properly
[06:20] <PadrePio> anybody?
[06:20] <Huffers> magpie, I think you aren't loading dri... (direct rendering)
[06:20] <magpie> fgl_glxgears makes the screen flash and that's it
[06:20] <roshan> SAM_theman: you might want to try Core 4 instead of 3 :-)
[06:21] <SAM_theman> no
[06:21] <magpie> there is something like glxgears iknow...blahblahblah...
[06:21] <deFrysk> SAM_theman, try gentoo ;p
[06:21] <SAM_theman> thats why i came to ubuntu
[06:21] <Huffers> hmm... my advice would be to look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[06:21] <SAM_theman> FC4 sucks
[06:21] <Chousuke> SAM_theman: :D
[06:21] <magpie> looking
[06:21] <Huffers> though I'm sure thats not the way you're meant to do it
[06:21] <SAM_theman> X keeps on crashing
[06:21] <Chousuke> I should try Gentoo someday.
[06:21] <SAM_theman> it conflcits with the sound and nvidia drivers
[06:21] <axel> Help this is weird, i've just installed amarok and given my music folder directory but it doesnt add any song in the collection
[06:21] <Huffers> magpie, there shopuld be a section called Module
[06:21] <tritium> SAM_theman, you realize that OpenAL is not installed by default, so you need to install the right libraries?
[06:22] <Stormx> I'm running a lamp configuration. Is it possible to mount my a directory onto my www section?
[06:22] <EvilGuru> in breezy, when i go to synaptic I get the password box but it is different
[06:22] <Huffers> and it should have Load "dri" in it
[06:22] <jonny> argh
[06:22] <varsedangger> SAM_theman,  why
[06:22] <magpie> looking
[06:22] <EvilGuru> no longer a window that i can move
[06:22] <Chousuke> Just so I can really say it's not a distro for me and have empirical evidence to back that up :P
[06:22] <SAM_theman> its a bug
[06:22] <Chousuke> -up
[06:22] <Sanne> Stormx: yes, it should work, I'm doing the same
[06:22] <deFrysk> SAM_theman, fc3 still has /dev/dsp I believe its outdated now cousing probs for your game , so better use some outdated os for that
[06:22] <magpie> load "dri"
[06:22] <Huffers> is it there?
[06:23] <EvilGuru> and it changed my background image :( the old default one was better
[06:23] <Huffers> with a capital L
[06:23] <Sanne> Stormx: I created a link under my www section to the directory I want to access through apache
[06:23] <SAM_theman> o...man
[06:23] <Stormx> Sanne: How would I do that? I've heard about symbolic and hard links
[06:24] <magpie> http://pastebin.com/418337
[06:24] <oliveira> ./help
[06:24] <picca> do i need to install multiple codecs to play various types of DVD in ubuntu?
[06:25] <n0odl3> how do i run serpentine from the terminal?
[06:25] <n0odl3> how do i invoke it
[06:25] <n0odl3> ?
[06:25] <WildZeck> there is only one format of dvd
[06:25] <Huffers> magpie, what does it say in the section "Device"?
[06:25] <Sanne> Stromx: let me try it quick, I always mess this up
[06:25] <deFrysk> n0odl3, serpentine
[06:25] <n0odl3> just type serpentine in term?
[06:25] <tritium> !tell picca about dvd
[06:25] <picca> WildZeck,  i installed gstreamer but it only plays the copyright vob
[06:25] <deFrysk> n0odl3, thats it ;)
[06:25] <magpie> http://pastebin.com/418338
[06:25] <picca> thanks tritium
[06:25] <varsedangger> hey how do i make my windows become focused under my mouse
[06:26] <Huffers> "Driver          "ati""
[06:26] <Huffers> I think that line is wrong
[06:26] <magpie> oh?
[06:26] <Huffers> you want to use the fglrx driver
[06:26] <Stormx> Sanne: heh ok. i'm with you all the way ^_^
[06:26] <magpie> so i just edit to say fglrx?
[06:26] <Potterwins> damn
[06:26] <Potterwins> when i reboot
[06:26] <Huffers> yeah... but make a backup!
[06:26] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/418340
[06:26] <Potterwins> it doesn't mount my floppy
[06:26] <tritium> magpie, I gave you an ATI wiki page for that
[06:26] <magpie> i think that's what i did before i lost xserver
[06:26] <matw> I just tried: mat@mog:/var/log$ sudo modprobe fglrx
[06:26] <matw> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/volatile/fglrx .ko): No such device
[06:26] <magpie> and i followed it
[06:27] <Sanne> Stormx: cd to your www dreictory and do a: ln -s /the/target/directory linkname
[06:27] <magpie> but i am confused because it seems i already have the fglrx driver loaded
[06:27] <roshan> varsedangger: System > Preferences > Windows
[06:27] <izmaelis> is it possible to install ubuntu without formatin hdd?
[06:27] <matw> any way to get the  fglrx.ko device?
[06:27] <Huffers> magpie, you may have it loaded but Xorg isnt using it
[06:27] <matw> without rebooting?
[06:27] <varsedangger> roshan, thanks
[06:27] <Potterwins> i guess its not really a problem i can mount it everytime i need to read a floppy
[06:27] <Moiana> Hello there! I would like some advice. I am on a freshly-installed ubuntu here, and want to install a C compiler. Should I stick to gcc 4.0?
[06:27] <magpie> so i should just edit to say fglrx instead of ati?
[06:28] <Potterwins> but shouldn't ubuntu do this automatically
[06:28] <Huffers> magpie, try that then restart x and see what happens
[06:28] <deFrysk> izmaelis, if you have a seperate /home, it does not need to be formatted
[06:28] <magpie> k
[06:28] <Huffers> if it doesn't work, put it back
[06:28] <magpie> k
[06:28] <deFrysk> the /home that is
[06:28] <n0odl3> does anyone know why i cant burn mp3s on to a cd?
[06:28] <n0odl3> for some reason it keeps on telling me the file type is not accepted
[06:28] <zando> n0odl3, graveman, k3b, ...
[06:28] <n0odl3> even though its mp3
[06:28] <deFrysk> !tell n0odl3 about mp3
[06:28] <n0odl3> grave man?
[06:28] <apokryphos> n0odl3: install k3b-mp3
[06:28] <n0odl3> zando i already no about that
[06:29] <n0odl3> i mean defrysk
[06:29] <deFrysk> apokryphos, no need to get k3b for that
[06:29] <fredmorcos> hi
[06:29] <n0odl3> zando does k3b allow me be to burn mp3s?
[06:29] <n0odl3> onto a cd
[06:29] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/418340
[06:29] <apokryphos> deFrysk: K3B seems to be the burner of choice for most people here (including gnomers)
[06:29] <zando> n0odl3, yes
[06:29] <magpie> restarting x
[06:29] <deFrysk> apokryphos, not anymore
[06:29] <deFrysk> ;)
[06:29] <apokryphos> deFrysk: no, it really is.
[06:29] <zando> n0odl3, you have to install k3b-mp3
[06:29] <qos> how to run processes as another user?
[06:29] <deFrysk> apokryphos, no really its not
[06:29] <apokryphos> not that it matters, anyhow
[06:29] <picca> tritium, it almost works but every few seconds the dvd produces green blocks (e.g. corrupt screen)
[06:30] <Stormx> Sanne: I did it already ^_^
[06:30] <n0odl3> ok im getting it right now
[06:30] <tritium> picca, with what player?
[06:30] <apokryphos> deFrysk: is too! Is not! Is too! Now where are we ;-)
[06:30] <Stormx> Sanne: Worked perfectly :D
[06:30] <Sanne> Stormx: and, works?
[06:30] <fredmorcos> guys im having problems with my laserjet 3030 (multifunction), cant get the scanner to work
[06:30] <Sanne> Stormx: heh cool!
[06:30] <fredmorcos> im on breezy
[06:30] <n0odl3> im using openbox though
[06:30] <picca> tritium, totem movie player
[06:31] <varsedangger> hey guys can i put somehting over in flood for you to look at?
[06:31] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/418340
[06:31] <tritium> picca, if you're using totem, you might switch to totem-xine.  Or, just install xine-ui or gxine.  There are also others like mplayer and vlc
[06:31] <deFrysk> n0odl3, sudo apt-get install totem-xine gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[06:31] <picca> okay thanks tritium  will give it a go
[06:31] <deFrysk> n0odl3, then gst-register-0.8
[06:31] <n0odl3> ok hold on
[06:31] <n0odl3> im getting k3b
[06:31] <deFrysk> n0odl3, then you can use serpentine for mpr-to audio disks
[06:31] <deFrysk> mp3 that is
[06:32] <imnes> Anybody tried setting a custom menu icon in 5.10 gnome, I'm getting "Failed to load image /path/to/my/file.png      Details: Icon not found"
[06:32] <deFrysk> n0odl3, no need for k3b bloat
[06:32] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/418340
[06:32] <izmaelis> why after installing nvidia-glx I get: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[06:32] <apokryphos> deFrysk: not bloated
[06:32] <apokryphos> best burner application out there
[06:32] <deFrysk> apokryphos, sure ;)
[06:32] <Chousuke> apokryphos: does it depends on KDE libs?
[06:32] <apokryphos> it's what amaroK is to mp3s :P
[06:32] <gpto> Hi everybody, is this only an english irc channel?
[06:32] <qos> simlpe question, how to run processes as another user?
[06:32] <fredmorcos> anyone?
[06:32] <apokryphos> Chousuke: yes
[06:32] <Chousuke> apokryphos: Then it's bloated ;P
[06:33] <apokryphos> Chousuke: it wouldn't be a kde app if it didn't
[06:33] <deFrysk> Chousuke, lol
[06:33] <apokryphos> Chousuke: errr, yeah, sure.
[06:33] <tritium> izmaelis, you have linux-restricted-modules for that kernel installed?
[06:33] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/418340
[06:33] <Chousuke> it could only depend on QT!
[06:33] <n0odl3> it says totem-xine is already the newest version
[06:33] <izmaelis> tritium, chacking..
[06:33] <apokryphos> Chousuke: no, it wouldn't be a **kde** app then
[06:33] <izmaelis> checking
[06:33] <deFrysk> ok enough foks
[06:33] <n0odl3> n0odl3@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install totem-xine gstreamer0.8-pugins gstreamer0.8plugins-multiverse
[06:33] <n0odl3> Reading package lists... Done
[06:33] <n0odl3> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:33] <n0odl3> totem-xine is already the newest version.
[06:33] <n0odl3> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-pugins
[06:33] <deFrysk> folks
[06:33] <n0odl3> thats what it says
[06:33] <apokryphos> n0odl3: don't paste in here please
[06:33] <n0odl3> oh sory apokryphos
[06:33] <Chousuke> n0odl3: pugins?
[06:33] <n0odl3> defrysk what do i do?
[06:33] <Chousuke> plugins ;P
[06:33] <deFrysk> !tell n0odl3 about repositories
[06:34] <zando> qos, su <other_user> <command>
[06:34] <deFrysk> n0odl3, read ubotu's message ,
[06:34] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/418340
[06:34] <Tokenizer> if i want to "make" files ....... what do i need beside gcc 3.4, and make
[06:34] <hedonick> francais: you could try #ubuntu-fr
[06:34] <StDellis> anyone have an inspiron 9300 here?
[06:34] <hawking> does ubuntu come with a firewall?
[06:34] <n0odl3> deFrysk but i already have universe!
[06:34] <tritium> izmaelis, when you installed that 686 kernel image, you should have installed the "linux-686" metpackage, to pull in the l-r-m
[06:34] <n0odl3> i already activated it
[06:35] <Chousuke> n0odl3: fix the typo!
[06:35] <Chousuke> :P
[06:35] <deFrysk> n0odl3, get multiverse also
[06:35] <Chousuke> you were trying to install pugins.
[06:35] <Chousuke> whatever they are.
[06:35] <francais> thx hedonick
[06:35] <deFrysk> n0odl3, you forget the s ?
[06:35] <izmaelis> tritium, should I do sudo apt-get install linux-686  then?
[06:35] <tritium> Tokenizer, you likely want to install build-essential
[06:35] <deFrysk> plugins ?
[06:35] <SAM_theman>  http://pastebin.com/418340 http://pastebin.com/418340 http://pastebin.com/418340
[06:35] <tritium> izmaelis, sure
[06:35] <Chousuke> deFrysk: he forgot the l :P
[06:35] <SAM_theman> hmm...
[06:35] <deFrysk> Chousuke, lol
[06:35] <varsedangger> hey i pastbined but nothing
[06:36] <varsedangger> ...
[06:36] <izmaelis> tritium, does that depend on what uname -a shows me?
[06:36] <n0odl3> the s in what?
[06:36] <SAM_theman> okn thats it
[06:36] <deFrysk> n0odl3, make sure to type the line correctly
[06:36] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get install totem-xine gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[06:36] <picca> thanks tritium that seemed to do the trick :) it is a bit jurky but will figure that out another time
[06:36] <deFrysk> n0odl3, copy paste it
[06:36] <tritium> izmaelis, if you were only installing the l-r-m package by itself, you would need "linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)", but here, you just need to install linux-686
[06:36] <tritium> picca, :)
[06:36] <hawking> what is the best tool for playing mp3's at ubuntu?
[06:37] <f> @hawking: you can install a firewall. there are some in the repositories
[06:37] <deFrysk> hawking, I prefer beep-media-player but its higly debatable
[06:37] <chakall> some one could help to configure anjuta??? they ask for the glib, but I couldn't find this library
[06:37] <zando> hawking, amarok (it is for kde)
[06:37] <Chousuke> deFrysk: actually they're applications that configure the firewall you already have ;P
[06:38] <deFrysk> Chousuke, ??? :/ ?
[06:38] <n0odl3> well i found the plugins in synaptic
[06:38] <Chousuke> deFrysk: They just generate an iptables script
[06:38] <n0odl3> do i install totem-gstreamer?
[06:38] <Chousuke> iptables is the firewall that comes with the linux kernel
[06:38] <n0odl3> deFrysk: if i install totem-gstreamer then totem-xine will be removed
[06:38] <Chousuke> (ok, it needs some userspace tools too)
[06:39] <n0odl3> is this correct?
[06:39] <deFrysk> n0odl3, should be ok yes
[06:40] <matw> I just added fglrx to /etc/modules. Can I get the kernel to install it without rebooting?
[06:40] <n0odl3> how do i remove k3b?
[06:40] <n0odl3> sudo apt-get remove k3b?
[06:40] <zando> n0odl3, yes
[06:40] <apokryphos> n0odl3: same way you remove any other application
[06:40] <n0odl3> ok
[06:40] <Huffers> matw, type "modprobe fglrx"?
[06:40] <tritium> matw, you should be able to modprobe it
[06:40] <deFrysk> n0odl3, yes my friend :)
[06:40] <n0odl3> thank you ^_^
[06:41] <matw> I get an error when I run modprobe fglrx
[06:41] <tritium> matw, do you use sudo?
[06:41] <matw> mat@mog:~$ sudo modprobe fglrx
[06:41] <matw> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko): No such device
[06:41] <n0odl3> ok imma gonna restart the session
[06:42] <Bateau_> can someone help me with this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4113
[06:42] <deFrysk> ?
[06:42] <hawking> f : any firewalls that you may recommend?
[06:42] <tritium> !imma
[06:42] <ubotu> methinks imma is not a word
[06:42] <tritium> ;)
[06:42] <penguinbrat> matw: that means you either dont have an ATI card, or one that that the fglrx module supports..
[06:42] <deFrysk> hawking, afaIk no firewall is needed if you do not run any services
[06:43] <matw> penguinbrat, my card is ati X700, which the wiki says the flgrx driver is for
[06:43] <varsedangger> my windows switcher is saying that the schema value is incorrect, how do i change this value
[06:43] <f> deFrysk, but it feels saver ;)
[06:43] <Huffers> matw, which kernel are you using... not sure if it makes a difference...
[06:43] <matw> Huffers, 5.10amd64
[06:43] <penguinbrat> matw: do an "lspci" see what the kernel says it is... just for a sanity check...
[06:43] <Huffers> 64 bit mode?
[06:43] <hawking> I am a physics student who needs some packages about high maths like derivatives,integrals ... Are there any package that you know of which can calculate such stuff?
[06:44] <matw> huffers, yes
[06:44] <n0odl3> it works thank you!
[06:44] <f> hawking: try firestarter... its easy to use..
[06:44] <tritium> hawking, yes
[06:44] <magpie> ugh
[06:44] <deFrysk> f i dont run any services so breaking into an empty room can be pretty boring
[06:44] <welp> how do i remove pakages
[06:44] <welp> *packages
[06:44] <Huffers> heh, matw, I got my X800 card working in ubuntu, but only in 32 bit mode (I also have an amd64)
[06:44] <hawking> tritium: may you gimme the names of some?
[06:44] <tritium> hawking, maxima, xmaxima,
[06:45] <tritium> there are others
[06:45] <welp> Huffers, what processor do you have?
[06:45] <penguinbrat> matw: that was my next line of thinking that it has something to do with the 64bit module...
[06:45] <matw> huffers, you have an amd64, but you're running 5.10 i386 software?
[06:45] <Huffers> Athlon64 3500+
[06:45] <hawking> tritium: is maxima easy to use?
[06:45] <tritium> hawking, I haven't used it
[06:45] <Huffers> I'm using the k7 kernel
[06:45] <obontu> hello, i'm trying to encode a cd into ogg using sound juicer, and i don't know how to change the quality settings, can someone help please?
[06:45] <hawking> tritium : maxima is not in repos :/
[06:45] <tritium> !info maxima
[06:45] <ubotu> maxima: (A fairly complete computer algebra system-- base system), section universe/math, is optional. Version: 5.9.1-9build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 7977 kB, Installed size: 26912 kB
[06:45] <matw> some people on the forums seemed to have gotten accellerated performance on amd64
[06:46] <tritium> yes it is, hawking ^^
[06:46] <welp> Huffers, i know nothing about using ubuntu in 64bit, i just wanted to know what processor you had...
[06:46] <Huffers> fair enough
[06:46] <welp> :D
[06:46] <penguinbrat> matw: have you tried installing the packages straight from ATI instead of the deb packages?
[06:46] <welp> how do i remove pakages
[06:46] <hawking> tritium : oh yes it is sorry :)
[06:46] <welp> *packages
[06:46] <tritium> hawking, check the Mathematics section either here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/math/, or in synaptic
[06:46] <matw> penguinbrat, no, I have no idea how to do that
[06:46] <tritium> penguinbrat, please don't advise that
[06:47] <tritium> matw, you don't want to do that anyway
[06:47] <hawking> tritium : I was checkin that just asked to learn if some of you have experience
[06:47] <obontu> anyone knows of good quality cd rippers that can rip ogg quality 9?
[06:47] <lukewarm> oba, Edit -> Preferences -> Edit Profiles -> Edit "CD Quality, Lossy" -> change quality=0.7 (or whatever) in "Gstreamer Pipeline"
[06:47] <obontu> i tried
[06:47] <lukewarm> sorry, obuntu
[06:47] <obontu> doesn't work
[06:47] <matw> tritium, did you see the error I got when I tried sudo modprobe fglrx?
[06:47] <tritium> matw, yes
[06:47] <matw> ok
[06:47] <lukewarm> are you sure you edited the profile you've selected as the output format?
[06:47] <obontu> yes
[06:48] <obontu> still it rips 112 kbps
[06:48] <tritium> hawking, with math, plenty.  With maxima, none
[06:48] <Huffers> matw, how much ram do you have?
[06:48] <Bateau_> can someone help me with this please? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4113
[06:49] <matw> Huffers, a lot? Don't remember how much I put in when I bought the  machine
[06:49] <StDellis> what is the best movie player out there that I can get the package for that plays almost all types of formats?
[06:49] <obontu> that's the line i saw have there
[06:49] <obontu> audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! vorbisenc name=enc quality=9
[06:49] <lukewarm> obontu, quality = 0.9
[06:49] <Huffers> because if it's addressable in 32 bit mode theres not much point in using the 64 bit mode kernel, I think
[06:49] <tritium> Bateau_, looks line an error in the code you're compiling
[06:49] <hawking> tritium : yeah that's what I want :) I need a package which can do derivatives and integration stuff and it should just be an easy  GUI
[06:49] <obontu> ah thank you!
[06:49] <lukewarm> =)
[06:49] <varsedangger> StDellis, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:49] <StDellis> thanks
[06:49] <tritium> hawking, my advise is that you should learn to do it yourself ;)
[06:49] <karlheg> How can I compile a 32 bit binary on amd64?  I tried 'gcc -m32' but it fails in linking.
[06:49] <factotum> i think the forum is down atm
[06:50] <varsedangger> tritium, that is funny ha ha
[06:50] <matw> huffers, I think I'm running full 64 bit right now. All memory is accessible
[06:50] <tritium> advice even
[06:50] <lee> ok, I give up
[06:50] <Huffers> matw, yeah, but that might have something to do with your driver not loading...
[06:50] <varsedangger> hawking, look on freshmeat.net
[06:50] <matw> huffers, you mean the driver is 32 bit? maybe?
[06:50] <tritium> matw, that's likely the problem.
[06:50] <Huffers> yep
[06:50] <Huffers> could be
[06:51] <tritium> matw, that would have been good information to share with us earlier ;)
[06:51] <Huffers> I'm no expert, though
[06:51] <matw> I did at some point,
[06:51] <matw> I said I was running 5.10 amd64
[06:51] <tritium> matw, okay, fair enough
[06:52] <Huffers> I compiled the fglrx thing myself and it was tricky because I realised I had one set of kernel headers, and a different kernel
[06:52] <cbg> hello
[06:52] <Huffers> and I had to make sure they matched
[06:52] <tritium> Huffers, why did you compile it rather than install ubuntu packages?
[06:52] <Huffers> because the ubuntu ones didn't work :-P
[06:52] <lee> anybody around who can help me install the nvidia kernel driver?  I must be missing something obvious here.  I've tried both the nvidia-glx package and the latest nvidia supplied .run file and I just can't get the goddamn thing to work.  I'm running breezy (recently upgraded from hoary), and can't compile the nvidia package... I've read both wiki pages (for the packages and the manual install) and still can't get it to work
[06:53] <magpie> okay...i just finished folllowing the wiki word for word...gonna restart now
[06:53] <tritium> !tell lee about nvidia
[06:53] <f> has someone experience on sound config? have nForce2 audio and would like to play the same sound on digital and analog output at the same time. already managed to play it on analog OR digital
[06:53] <matw> I just looked at synaptic, fglrx, properties, and I see lib32 stuff,
[06:53] <nekostar> oi
[06:54] <matw> I'm getting suspicious that the driver download is 32 bit
[06:54] <Huffers> that could be it
[06:54] <nekostar> that sucked
[06:54] <lee> tritium: I've read that wiki page, the forum is apparently down
[06:54] <moe_> i changed some configuration so i can view in 1024x768 screen and now system halts in screensaver mode
[06:54] <Huffers> matw, either see if you can compile it yourself to a 64 bit thing (hard)
[06:54] <matw> Huffers, do you remember what the  source package was called?
[06:54] <Huffers> or switch to using a 32 but kernel
[06:54] <tritium> lee, don't use nvidia's .run file.  You don't need the forum.  The wiki page does not advise you to install the .run file
[06:55] <Huffers> I think I got it from ATI or something, though I doubt people here would advise you to do that
[06:55] <Huffers> try googling for fglrx
[06:55] <tritium> lee, what exactly is the problem?
[06:55] <matw> Huffers, I want to keep the 64 bit kernel because I plan to do _heavy_ numerical simulation work
[06:55] <Huffers> aha
[06:55] <Huffers> ok
[06:55] <lee> tritium: I only attempted a manual install as a last resort, as the packages don't seem to work for me
[06:56] <tritium> Huffers, right, because then you're having users install files that are not under package management
[06:56] <tritium> lee, please be more specific
[06:56] <varsedangger> has anyone used mplay?
[06:56] <Huffers> yeah, but there isn't a package managged 64 bit fglrx
[06:56] <jeffreyvergara> mplay?
[06:56] <matw> and the wiki instructions don't say "this doesn't work for amd64 kernels"
[06:56] <varsedangger> it is console for mplayer
[06:57] <Huffers> maybe they should
[06:57] <izmaelis> tritium, thanx for the help, I can use nvidia-glx now
[06:57] <moe_> i changed some configuration so i can view in 1024x768 screen and now system halts when screensaver comes on ..why is that ?
[06:57] <lee> tritium: if I alter xorg.conf and tell it to use nvidia instead of nv, when I boot the machine freezes at a different place each time (although at least the breezy loading screen is purty)
[06:57] <varsedangger> it is great because it gets shoutcast streams like winamp
[06:57] <Huffers> matw, I think your only option is find the source for fglrx and try to compile and install it as a 64 bit thing yourself
[06:57] <magpie> it didn't work
[06:57] <matw> Huffers, yeah, looks that way doesn't it. Adventure time! :)
[06:58] <Huffers> yeah, good luck :)
[06:58] <tritium> lee, you didn't follow the wiki, and use nvidia-glx-config enable?  (you don't have to manually edit your xorg.conf)
[06:58] <magpie> had to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again
[06:58] <tritium> izmaelis, sure :)
[06:58] <matw> magpie, did  it work?
[06:58] <magpie> nope
[06:58] <matw> bummer. :(
[06:58] <magpie> so how do you see if you have 3d accel?
[06:58] <tritium> magpie, are you also on a 64-bit machine?
[06:58] <magpie> yes amd64
[06:58] <Huffers> run fgl_glxgears
[06:59] <magpie> that doesn't work Huffers
[06:59] <tritium> magpie, oh, no wonder...
[06:59] <lee> tritium: yes, I did "nvidia-glx-config enable", xorg.conf still says it's using nv after doing that, hence editing it
[06:59] <Huffers> heh, let me guess, using the 64 bit kernel?
[06:59] <magpie> it flashes is all it does
[06:59] <magpie> yes!
[06:59] <cbg> anyone got time for a couple of quick easy questions from a newbie?
[06:59] <Huffers> aha
[06:59] <matw> ha!
[06:59] <Huffers> !
[06:59] <ubotu> Huffers: I haven't a clue
[06:59] <magpie> so i need some other instructions?
[06:59] <Huffers> its that 64 bit kernel and fglrx I reckon
[06:59] <Spudchat> the forumns are currently down some clowns are attacking the server! :(
[06:59] <matw> magpie, I have same set up as you. Seems hopeless
[06:59] <magpie> no!
[07:00] <jeffreyvergara> that's why im here.. lol
[07:00] <magpie> what is the point of this hardware if it can't work???  lol
[07:00] <Huffers> magpie, unless you want to try one of the 32 bit kernels
[07:00] <tritium> lee, you must have edited your xorg.conf by hand prior to running nvidia-glx-config enable, hence changing its md5sum (see note at the top of xorg.conf file)
[07:00] <Huffers> magpie, unless you want to try one of the 32 bit kernels
[07:00] <matw> I get errors trying to install the driver, and it looks like the driver is only for 32 bit kernels
[07:00] <magpie> phooey
[07:00] <magpie> maybe i should try the proprietary driver?
[07:00] <izmaelis> tritium, but glxgears acts funny now... it doesn't show nothing (FPS and stuff), just those spining things
[07:00] <matw> how do do that?
[07:01] <cbg> if the forum servers are down would this also affect me trying to update repository lists from the package manager?
[07:01] <tritium> izmaelis, doesn't show nothing?  That's great!  (double-negative)  ;)
[07:01] <magpie> i have the ati-driver-installer-8.18.8-x86_64.run
[07:01] <jeffreyvergara> @cbg, nope
[07:01] <matw> magpie, where'd you get it?
[07:01] <cbg> thakns jeffery
[07:01] <izmaelis> tritium, why?
[07:01] <dhruv> Hi all, I'm looking for some software that will organize a whole lot of music. By organize I mean rearrange the files and directories in some comprehensible fashion. Any ideas?
[07:01] <jeffreyvergara> ^_^
[07:01] <cfh_dev> Do I have to do something special to enable spdif output?
[07:02] <magpie> i get no fps either...last night i ran it with something called iknow... and i got fps of 3000-5000
[07:02] <magpie> got it on ati site
[07:02] <tritium> izmaelis, !(!A) = A
[07:02] <lee> tritium: yes, I had to edit it to add TwinView stuff
[07:02] <tritium> lee, that explains it
[07:02] <factotum> so the nvidia driver takes care of everything? Ive seen things like Option agp "8"  or  Option renderaccel "whatever"   do I not need to bother with that with the "nvidia" driver installed?
[07:02] <matw> magpie, thanks
[07:02] <cbg> @ jeffery, must be user error then lol
[07:02] <feugan3333> Hi all. How does the alternatives system work. For example when I use the vi command, it uses the symbolic link to /usr/bin/vim. Would I need to edit the symbolic link to use another program?
[07:02] <magpie> you try it first!
[07:02] <varsedangger> has anyone been able to get some kind of streaming internet radio client to work? and fi so what and how?
[07:02] <matw> ha! :)
[07:02] <Huffers> I tried using the ATI installer
[07:02] <matw> failed?
[07:02] <magpie> actually, they had the drivers and then this installer...i'm not sure i have everything i need
[07:02] <Huffers> but ended up having to do it from source for some reason
[07:02] <Huffers> can't remember why
[07:03] <tritium> magpie, if you install that, which you certainly can if you want, we'll be unable to support you if you have problems
[07:03] <lee> tritium: so what do I need to do in order to be able to use the nvidia driver?
[07:03] <magpie> you mean the installer?
[07:03] <tritium> magpie, yes
[07:03] <thrush> varsedangger: used streamtuner and xmms?
[07:03] <Huffers> tritium, what else is magpie meant to do?
[07:03] <magpie> how bout if i just use their driver?
[07:03] <roshan> feugan3333: Try update-alternatives(8)
[07:03] <matw> or me?
[07:03] <tritium> Huffers, he can do that, as I said he could
[07:03] <varsedangger> i am using xmms, i also have mplayer
[07:03] <feugan3333> thanks roshan
[07:04] <varsedangger> but i can't figure out how to access the radio feeds
[07:04] <thrush> varsedangger: apt-get streamtuner its pretty nice
[07:04] <tritium> Huffers, but how are we to be expected to support non-ubuntu software, especially that which will write system files not managed by apt?
[07:04] <factotum> im using xmms right now to play a .pls file from the local university
[07:04] <matw> Who maintains the fglrx package? I'd like to ask about amd64 support
[07:04] <Huffers> fair enough
[07:04] <jeffreyvergara> Im using automatix mplayer + plugins
[07:04] <varsedangger> cool
[07:04] <varsedangger> wahat is automatix
[07:04] <tritium> lee, look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and find out what the problem is
[07:04] <Huffers> matw, Daniel Stone <daniel.stone@ubuntu.com> apparently
[07:05] <Huffers> don't know if emailing him would help though
[07:05] <tritium> filing a bug would be more appropriate
[07:05] <matw> Huffers,I can try, where'd you get your info?
[07:05] <jeffreyvergara> automatix - great tool, install programs with just a click.. hehe
[07:05] <matw> on launchpad?
[07:05] <tritium> jeffreyvergara, sounds like synaptid
[07:05] <tritium> synaptic even
[07:05] <StDellis> once I've installed nclock where do I go from here?
[07:05] <roshan> feugan3333: You might also want to see galternatives from universe
[07:05] <tritium> matw, bugzilla
[07:06] <matw> ok, will do
[07:06] <Huffers> matw, filing a bug like tritium said sounds a better idea, I found the email address in synaptic on the properties for the fglrx package
[07:06] <jeffreyvergara> yep... but I think it uses backports
[07:06] <lee> tritium: unfortunately, it just says "Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!", no errors before that (or warnings that are relevant to nvidia)
[07:06] <tritium> lee, which kernel are you running?  (output of uname -r please)
[07:06] <factotum> Is agp set up automaticly with video drivers, or do I have to add an Option to my xorg.config?
[07:07] <lee> tritium: 2.6.12-9-686
[07:07] <matw> Huffers, the bugzilla sounds better to me too. BTW my symaptic shows Adam Conrad <adconrad@ubuntu.com> as the package maintainer. :-)
[07:07] <jeffreyvergara> I used it to install my Graphic Driver... just a few clicks and it's done
[07:07] <tritium> lee, please run this: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:07] <StDellis> where can I change general video card options? I have an nvidia card
[07:07] <runedude> hey anyone want to do me a favor?
[07:08] <matw> will try\
[07:08] <runedude> can someone try to do apt-cache showsrc wpasupplicant and pm me the reuslts?
[07:08] <runedude> results*
[07:08] <runedude> i think im missing some dependencies
[07:08] <runedude> (this is without internet on my linux box, so i cant access anything)
[07:08] <lee> tritium: which bit of the output do you want?
[07:08] <varsedangger> thank you thankyou thankyou
[07:08] <crimsun> dependencies are show with apt-cache show foo
[07:08] <tritium> lee, is it installed?
[07:08] <crimsun> build-dependencies are shown with apt-cache showsrc foo
[07:09] <lee> tritium: Installed: (none)
[07:09] <runedude> they are?
[07:09] <runedude> lol
[07:09] <lee> so I guess not =)
[07:09] <tritium> lee, that's the problem right there
[07:09] <runedude> crimsun: i dont have internet
[07:09] <runedude> so
[07:09] <varsedangger> gbye
[07:09] <runedude> i need to know what debs i need to DL
[07:09] <tritium> sudo aptitude install linux-686, lee
[07:09] <crimsun> runedude: the information is available to you already
[07:09] <runedude> I download *.deb files on my windows harddrive, then i copy them over to linux
[07:09] <crimsun> runedude: http://packages.ubuntu.com/wpasupplicant
[07:10] <tonio__> would any one like to help me set up freevo
[07:10] <runedude> crimsun: no, its not. I am running a clean install of ubuntu amd64 and i have no information of wpasupplicant
[07:10] <runedude> crimsun:
[07:10] <runedude> the problem is
[07:10] <tritium> tonio__, I might recommend mythtv over freevo
[07:10] <runedude> it has dependencies, then those programs have dependencies
[07:10] <runedude> and then those have dependencies
[07:10] <tritium> !enter
[07:10] <runedude> its a never ending loop
[07:11] <guix> hello
[07:11] <runedude> !enter?
[07:11] <tritium> !tell runedude about enter
[07:11] <guix> dou you spike French?
[07:11] <runedude> hmm.. nothing.. lol
[07:11] <ompaul> !fr
[07:11] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:11] <thrush> runedude: looks like youre in hell dude
[07:11] <runedude> thrush: i am :( i just wnat this thing to work, but i need so many dependencies
[07:11] <guix> ok merci
[07:11] <lee> tritium: then reboot?
[07:11] <tritium> lee, no need
[07:11] <runedude> im now wondering if its the 64bit edition thats causing problems
[07:11] <nekostar> !sources
[07:11] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:11] <runedude> like. hm
[07:12] <runedude> what?
[07:12] <runedude> if that was directed at me, please note I am trying to just get my internet working on breezy, I havent even got internet yet
[07:13] <runedude> so I am trying to download all packages first, then install them, so then I can have internet... let me try to find a old error
[07:13] <lee> tritium: I just did /etc/init.d/gdm start, the nvidia logo appeared 3 times but X failed to start, but there are no errors at all in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:13] <crimsun> runedude: it's actually very simple. All of wpasupplicant's dependencies are included in the default Ubuntu desktop installation already except for debconf.
[07:13] <runedude> crimsun: no, thats not true, they are not
[07:13] <matw> Huffers, Right at the top of the wiki page it says ... "ATI Drivers for AMD64 are only available in Hoary" !!!
[07:13] <runedude> it required alot of other stuff
[07:13] <tritium> lee, none at all?  will you paste it on pastebin please?
[07:13] <crimsun> runedude: like what?
[07:13] <Potterwins> how do you get gnome to run again after you press ctrl,alt and backspace?
[07:13] <matw> I'm "breezy"
[07:14] <lee> tritium: what, the entire log?
[07:14] <runedude> plus, crimsun, it didnt even include the deb for it.
[07:14] <tritium> lee, yep
[07:14] <crimsun> runedude: it shouldn't include the wpasupplicant deb; it's in universe.
[07:14] <Potterwins> anybody know?
[07:14] <StDellis> I just installed aptitude what does it do though? sorry I'm new to linux
[07:14] <runedude> crimsun: and how am i supposed to download a universe deb w/o having internet, if i need wpasupplicant to get on the internet?
[07:14] <lee> I can put the log up but putting it in the pastebin will be difficult right now, hang on
[07:14] <thrush> Potterwins: are you at terminal? no gui?
[07:14] <matw> Potterwins, try startx
[07:15] <thrush> Potterwins: sudo gdm
[07:15] <tritium> StDellis, it's an improved apt-get, if yoy will
[07:15] <runedude> bbl, gonna try this again
[07:15] <crimsun> runedude: do you have administrative control over the access point?
[07:15] <runedude> crimsun: no
[07:15] <tritium> Potterwins, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[07:15] <crimsun> runedude: got a floppy diskette or usb thumb drive?
[07:15] <runedude> im gonna get a detailed logfile, crimsun , then show you the kinda crap im getting
[07:15] <Potterwins> yea it puts me at terminal
[07:15] <StDellis> tritium how do I get to it once its installed? I'm having a hard time finding things after I install such as my video card settings and nclock?
[07:15] <Potterwins> 3 different answers
[07:15] <Potterwins> lol
[07:15] <matw> Potterwins, startx will start the desktop
[07:15] <runedude> crimsun: no, but , i download stuff to my windows drive then copy it over to linux
[07:16] <tritium> StDellis, it's a command-line tool, like apt-get
[07:16] <StDellis> oh ok
[07:16] <runedude> ah, this way my latest issue
[07:16] <runedude> qmake_image_collection.cpp
[07:16] <runedude> make: /bin/uic: Command not found
[07:16] <lee> tritium: http://loathe.ms/~lee/breezy.xorg.log is the log
[07:16] <Potterwins> if i press ctrl, alt and backspace now..... does it close down everything i'm running?
[07:16] <runedude> ahh stupid windows breaks, that looked like 1 line to me on notepad
[07:16] <Potterwins> or just closes gnome
[07:17] <matw> pretty much wipes out any open apps
[07:17] <philippe_> Hi there
[07:17] <crimsun> Potterwins: it kills anything in your X Window System session
[07:17] <Potterwins> k
[07:17] <philippe_> how are U ?
[07:17] <philippe_> Greetings from switzerland
[07:17] <Potterwins> okies i'm gonna try it
[07:17] <crimsun> runedude: apt-cache policy wpasupplicant
[07:18] <runedude> crimsun: im not on linux right now
[07:18] <runedude> i have to reboot to get to it, then reboot to get back to windows, a big hassle.
[07:18] <crimsun> runedude: ok. I'm out for a bit for errands before a meeting.
[07:18] <tritium> lee, try commenting out the loading of the "fb" module
[07:18] <tritium> crimsun, have a good day
[07:18] <crimsun> later tritium
[07:19] <runedude> this problem im not having with wpasupplicant, im having this problem with another program. It required the qmake program, so I installed that. Then I get crap about "/bin/uic" missing.
[07:19] <lee> tritium: that's not being loaded
[07:20] <tritium> lee, according to your logfile, it's trying to be
[07:20] <crimsun> runedude: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=%2Fbin%2Fuic&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386
[07:20] <runedude> crimsun: yes, but, those require dependencies too
[07:21] <crimsun> runedude: work on wpasupplicant first, since it's the easier of the packages
[07:21] <philippe_> I have a problem installing a clp-510 printer of samsung
[07:21] <lee> tritium: same url but .conf instead of .log, that's my current /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:21] <philippe_> should someone help me
[07:21] <runedude> crimsun: wpasupplicant is fine, i just need this qmake thingy or w/e working
[07:21] <fuci> I'm using Linux for the 1st time and I do have another HD with WinXP, how do I mount it?
[07:22] <tritium> runedude, see crimsun's last URL for you, then
[07:22] <crimsun> runedude: err, if it's fine, then what's the issue right now with wpasupplicant?
[07:22] <runedude> tritium: I did! but, I know if i go to ubuntu and try to install the deb it will require alot of dependencies
[07:22] <JurB> can anybody help me with gshowtv and recorderd?
[07:23] <WoundUp> anybody here know what the minimum storage temperature for a hard-drive is?
[07:23] <tritium> !tell fuci about windowsdrives
[07:23] <imnes> I'm having trouble trying to set a custom gnome main menu icon in 5.10, I get "icon not found", even if I try to set it back to the original gnome foot icon.
[07:23] <_AsDf_> LIBHOWL: Anyone know where I can find libhowl for breezy? It's proving elusive :)
[07:23] <runedude> fuci: mount /dev/hdb /mnt/windows
[07:23] <runedude> or w/e
[07:23] <SEJeff> _AsDf_: Use avahi, not howl
[07:24] <lando> fuci > sudo mount -t vfat devicename mount point
[07:24] <runedude> for instance i do mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows
[07:24] <tritium> _AsDf_, there were legal issues with howl, as I recall
[07:24] <runedude> lando: not fat, he is using NTFS, which he is most likely using ntfs
[07:24] <fuci> Yes
[07:24] <runedude> err
[07:24] <lando> oh ntfs is supported nice thanks for the info
[07:25] <fuci> NTFS on the Windows drive and FAT32 for tha Linux
[07:25] <runedude> i mean he is using XP
[07:25] <tritium> lando, ntfs read support is good, but writing to ntfs is wicked dangerous
[07:25] <lando> lol thanks tritium
[07:25] <runedude> heh
[07:25] <cbg> are the repositories locations for synaptic  assigned by my location i.e. if im in canada does it default daownloading from a canadian server?
[07:25] <To_kenizer> what are some commands if i want to know that my wifi card is installed properly, working, connected, etc
[07:25] <SEJeff> cbg: no
[07:26] <runedude> cbg: i dont think they are by default
[07:26] <JurB> can anybody help me with gshowtv and recorderd?
[07:26] <lee> tritium: if you can see where it's being loaded, please enlighten me and I'll get rid of it =)
[07:26] <runedude> you can probably set them pu with `apt-setup`
[07:26] <cbg> strange, im unable to connect to the multiverse
[07:26] <tritium> lee, I'm only seeing your Xorg.0.log file so far.  I haven't seen your xorg.conf
[07:26] <runedude> usually it is PREFIX.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:26] <lee> tritium: http://loathe.ms/~lee/breezy.xorg.conf
[07:27] <tritium> To_kenizer, dpkg -L wireless-tools
[07:27] <_AsDf_> hmm im trying to use gnomemeeting-cvs but libhowl is a dependency
[07:27] <jbroome> Ahh, what happened to ubotu?
[07:27] <lando> runedude :so how when I use the command ls /proc/filesystems ntsf never shows up?
[07:27] <_AsDf_> is there a way I can install gnomemeeting-cvs without using howl?
[07:27] <SEJeff> lando: because /proc/filesystems is a file, not a directory
[07:27] <tritium> _AsDf_, ask the gnomemeeting upstream folks
[07:28] <nekostar> crap.. is planet mirror down?
[07:28] <_AsDf_> im trying to use the repositories here http://snapshots.seconix.com/
[07:28] <runedude> lando: hmm..
[07:28] <runedude> lando: try df -h
[07:28] <cbg> yup mine is that preffix too, cant seem to connect to it, are they down? or is it some sort of user error?
[07:29] <_AsDf_> Who are the "gnomemeeting upstream folks"?
[07:29] <tritium> _AsDf_, the developers
[07:29] <lee> _AsDf_: the people who write gnomemeeting
[07:29] <lando> I'm sorry I miss started the true question.  Where do I go to find all the filesystems that are supported?
[07:30] <lee> possibly in #gnomemeeting, or #gnome =)
[07:30] <runedude> lando: I think man mount should work
[07:30] <tritium> yes ^
[07:30] <lando> ok thanks
[07:30] <antti> hello
[07:31] <runedude> hi antti
[07:31] <antti> I'm testing ircII as a irc client
[07:31] <SAM_theman> how do i add reositories for ubuntu 5.10
[07:31] <antti> feels a bit strange at first
[07:31] <_AsDf_> ok thanks for the help
[07:31] <tritium> antti, have you tried irssi?
[07:31] <runedude> SAM_theman: err.. apt-setup
[07:32] <JurB> can anybody help me with gshowtv and recorderd?
[07:32] <SAM_theman> beacuse i am trying to install java
[07:32] <SAM_theman> but keeps saying not found jres2....
[07:32] <cbg> sam im trying to do that now, using synatic...settings...repositories as per the faq guide
[07:32] <SAM_theman> somthing like that
[07:32] <SAM_theman> i know its starts with j
[07:32] <cbg> but i cant connect to the multiverse
[07:33] <tritium> SAM_theman, have you read the Ubuntu 5.10 Starter Guide in your help system?  It covers that...
[07:33] <runedude> http://www2.irchawks.org/ubuntu_respos.txt << SAM_theman that SHOULD work.
[07:33] <antti> tritium, yes I've been using irssi almost a year now
[07:33] <lee> tritium: any ideas?
[07:33] <antti> but I wanted to try something new
[07:33] <runedude> putting that in /etc/apt/sourecs.list atleast
[07:33] <JurB> does anybody use gshowtv?
[07:33] <tritium> lee, no, sorry.  That's peculiar
[07:34] <lee> of course it is =)
[07:34] <lee> tritium: thanks anyhow
[07:34] <tritium> lee :)
[07:35] <cbg> sam tthe adress for the faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#fg-gettingstarted  let me know if your able to add them all
[07:36] <SAM_theman> thanks guys
[07:37] <Sonderblade> which package contains the xv utility?
[07:37] <tritium> SAM_theman, you can always build your own java .deb using the java-package package, and Sun's installer
[07:37] <Karbonade> I need some help with my Wireless on Edubuntu !!
[07:37] <jucerlandio> pessoal alguem sabe como configurar eclipse no Ubuntu?
[07:37] <tritium> Sonderblade, are you talking about the old image viewer?  That's not been in many distros for years now.
[07:38] <Sanne> Sonderblade: you can find out at packages.ubuntu.com
[07:38] <tritium> !es
[07:38] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:38] <tritium> !pt
[07:38] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:38] <Sonderblade> tritium: yes that image viewer
[07:38] <tritium> jucerlandio, see above
[07:38] <JurB> i need help with recording tv ,please
[07:39] <volunteer> hi all, I'm configuring some machines to be donated, they need to have dialup.  found the lucent driver that works with this winmodem but the /dev/ttyLT0 disappears on reboot and I have to dpkg-reconfigure the package to create the device again, how do I make this static?
[07:39] <Karbonade> someone a little help with my wireless on edubuntu ?
[07:39] <tritium> Sonderblade, the author's licensing decisions prevents it from being included
[07:39] <tritium> JurB, mythtv works well
[07:40] <tritium> Sonderblade, that has been the situation for years now
[07:40] <JurB> it's not really what i want, isn't there a simple viewing/recording program?
[07:41] <tritium> JurB, for viewing, xawtv, tvtime
[07:41] <Sonderblade> tritium: well it was in gentoo six month ago atleast
[07:41] <tritium> JurB, also zapping
[07:41] <JurB> i've got tvtime but it doesn't record
[07:41] <SAM_theman> guys can u have a look at this
[07:41] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/418439
[07:41] <tritium> JurB, that's why I said "for viewing"
[07:41] <Xu> i am having problems with playing wmv files (video streaming) with rythmbox (the sound is ok.. but video is shocks, cpu usage is about 20% (i got a duron 800mhz, 512mb ram))
[07:41] <popey> SAM_theman: there are no breezy backports.. see the topic!
[07:42] <To_kenizer> 9 hours and still no wirless connection.. fuk, if it says wireless card recognized, then why the hell doesn't it work...... ????
[07:42] <JurB> i tried zapping in the repo, but the record function doesn't show
[07:42] <tritium> SAM_theman, see the topic
[07:42] <tritium> To_kenizer, watch the language please
[07:42] <SAM_theman> what u mean?
[07:43] <RocR-X> I wonder how long the Ubuntu Forums have been down.
[07:43] <picca> To_kenizer, what wireless card are you using?
[07:43] <tritium> SAM_theman, the topic indicates that there are no backports for breezy yet
[07:43] <popey> SAM_theman: you have a repository in your /etc/apt/sources.list that doesn't exist
[07:43] <esac> is there a way to get samba to file symlinks ? i am trying to play a movie from my smb share that is symlinked and it won't even list it
[07:43] <esac> s/file/follow
[07:43] <tritium> esac, nope
[07:43] <popey> SAM_theman: comment out the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list that mention breezy-backports, and run an apt-get update, it'll be fine
[07:43] <Karbonade> some help with my wireless please, it recognizes my card but doesnt activate it :(
[07:43] <SAM_theman> ok
[07:43] <picca> Karbonade, what sort of wireless card is it?
[07:44] <fuci> Cool, I got my partitions mounted. Yay ^.^ Now, how do I play .mp3 audiofiles?
[07:44] <Karbonade> Bufallo
[07:44] <Karbonade> I was able to work with while using Ubuntu 4.10
[07:44] <JurB> tritium,  i tried zapping in the repo, but the record function doesn't show
[07:44] <Karbonade> now I am using Edubuntu 5.1 and it doesn't work anymore :(
[07:44] <To_kenizer> picca...... it's the default card that ships with Acer Ferrari .... Broadcom (802.11b+g)
[07:44] <tritium> JurB, okay
[07:44] <volunteer> any help configuring my system so that /dev/ttyLT0 which is the modem is present on reboot is appreciated
[07:45] <picca> sorry To_kenizer i have only managed to get my own intel 2200BG working with WPA
[07:46] <vorpulus> do any of you guys have any idea how I can get steam installed on ubuntu? I've found things online and they just don't help at all
[07:46] <marcus^> hello
[07:46] <marcus^> i have now installed ubuntu 5.10! im one of you ubuntu fans now! hehe
[07:46] <fuci> vorpulus, I quess you would need a emulator to run CS or other OpenGL games
[07:46] <vorpulus> yes fuci
[07:46] <marcus^> have to save this quote so i can look at it when i get old
[07:47] <tritium> To_kenizer, you need to use ndiswrapper with broadcom chipsets
[07:47] <Karbonade> picca ?
[07:47] <marcus^> but, in Norway, is it correct to use UTF-8 as character encoding?
[07:47] <vorpulus> but I found some instructions on the 'net for wine, and they were useless to me
[07:47] <tritium> marcus^, welcome :)
[07:47] <marcus^> i tried to join gjvik on efnet, but i came into an empty channel
[07:47] <vorpulus> I mean has anyone here got counter strike working on their PC?
[07:48] <picca> sorry Karbonade, i have only managed to setup an intel 2200bg - not sure i can be of help ... are you using WPA encryption by any chance?
[07:48] <Delvien> Using superkaramba and editing and modding a theme that was already made, To show Album art and to pick where it goes, does anyone know how to do this?
[07:48] <To_kenizer> i did titium..... i followed the detailed tutorial here ....... i will pastebin my wlan info...  check     http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=51966 .......... that's what i get when i do iwconfig wlan0
[07:48] <kenalex> hello
[07:48] <fuci> Where do I download .mp3 support?
[07:48] <vorpulus> SAM_theman, are you there
[07:48] <kenalex> can ubuntu use debian packages
[07:48] <tritium> !tell fuci about mp3
[07:48] <fuci> thank you
[07:48] <tritium> kenalex, you should not do so.  What package do you want to install?
[07:48] <vorpulus> !tell SAM_theman about private messages
[07:48] <Karbonade> no, but I'm wondering why wireless was supported in version 4.1 and not in 5.1
[07:49] <To_kenizer> the tutorial i followed is here ........ http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~weckerl/ferrari_ubuntu_64.html#network
[07:49] <picca> !tell picca about mp3
[07:49] <vorpulus> !tell SAM_theman about pm
[07:49] <JurB> tritium, do you have any idea why it doesn't show?
[07:50] <Karbonade> no WPA picca, but I'm wondering why wireless was supported in version 4.1 and not in 5.1
[07:51] <tritium> JurB, I've never used it.
[07:51] <Aven> hey
[07:51] <Aven> what would I need to install to have my server support java?
[07:51] <h4zn> how can i use a bit torrent on ubuntu?
[07:51] <tritium> Karbonade, there was no version 5.1 (you mean 5.10)
[07:51] <JurB> tritium, okay thanks ayway
[07:51] <tritium> JurB, I suggest mythtv
[07:52] <lee> tritium: not loading the glx module makes X load, but I want 3d acceleration, any suggestions?
[07:52] <cliechti> hello. i have a problem with my bt878 tv card. audio is muted from time to time for a second or so. i had no problem with kernel 2.6.9, but .10 and now .12 on breezy have it.
[07:52] <JurB> tritium, seemed difficult to set up....
[07:52] <tritium> JurB, it's not bad.
[07:53] <tritium> lee, you should have it with nvidia-glx
[07:54] <JurB> tritium, i'll give it a go
[07:54] <kash> slt
[07:54] <kash> est ce qu il y a des francais
[07:54] <kash> ?
[07:55] <tritium> !fr
[07:55] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:55] <kash> ok merci
[07:56] <StDellis> how do I use nvidia-glx sorry I'm a noob to linux but want to learn
[07:56] <tritium> !tell StDellis about nvidia
[07:56] <tritium> follow that wiki page, StDellis
[07:57] <Habbie> ubuntu install stops at e2fsprogs-udeb (both breezy AND hoary); I have a philips dvdrom-drive; ubuntuforums tells me several people have the same issue with ubuntu+this drive; I need hints :)
[07:57] <StDellis> ok
[07:57] <jbroome> !tell habbie about ubuntuforums
[07:58] <Habbie> jbroome: as I stated, I read the forums; they only show me I'm not alone, no solutions are offered
[07:58] <jbroome> well, i pooched that
[07:58] <picca> tritium, my dvds are no longer jerky having enabled dma on the cdrom - thanks for helping me with getting dvds to play on my laptop
[07:58] <tritium> picca, awesome!
[07:58] <marcus^> sometimes my keyboard freezes.. i cant type a shit
[07:58] <marcus^> im running on a laptop
[07:59] <tritium> marcus^, your hand/fingers should be incapable of producing that
[07:59] <Dru> hi i keep having this prob anyone can help amsn:
[07:59] <Dru>  Depends: imlib1  but it is not installable
[07:59] <Dru>  Depends: sox but it is not going to be installed
[07:59] <Dru>  Depends: libpng10-0  but it is not installable
[08:00] <tritium> don't paste Dru
[08:00] <Dru> sry
[08:00] <Dru> anyone can help me?
[08:00] <volunteer> any help configuring my system so that /dev/ttyLT0 which is the modem is present on reboot is appreciated
[08:01] <Dru> i cant install amsn...anyone can help pls
[08:01] <soundray> volunteer: what's the name of the module for your modem?
[08:01] <Dru> i keep havin problems when installing software
[08:01] <Habbie> jbroome: btw, ubuntuforums are down ;)
[08:01] <GigaClon> libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or direct ory
[08:01] <GigaClon> where do I find this file
[08:02] <Dru> libpng10-0  but it is not installable...how can i install
[08:03] <jbroome> Habbie: sweet. :)
[08:04] <Cryptid> How do i open a certain port for input and output aMule says that port 4662 is open so how do i open it???
[08:04] <Cryptid> *Port 4662 is not open
[08:04] <Habbie> jbroome: got it; dma needs to be -on-
[08:04] <sclavoDelTiempo> que tal |caminante|
[08:05] <JurB> i just installed Mythtv, it asks me to run "mythtv-setup" as "mythtv" user, i tried this with "run as different user" but i asks for a password.....
[08:05] <typo> Is the file modification time stored in localtime in vfat partitions? Because time in my system changed and a backup of files I did with rsync -tvr now shows different times between the local ext3 and the external vfat
[08:07] <avinoam> Tell me, is it ok to pull a PCMCIA card out of a working laptop?
[08:07] <Habbie> avinoam: physically, yes
[08:07] <GNULinuxer> avalost: yes
[08:07] <Habbie> avinoam: some software may get confused though
[08:07] <GNULinuxer> avinoam: better unload the pcmcia module first
[08:07] <avinoam> Habbie, the card has started causing some problems
[08:07] <avinoam> freezing my ubuntu
[08:07] <StDellis> can someone help me with my audio drivers.. I dont know which to install. I have a dell inspiron 9300 with onboard sound of course and like if I'm playing XMMS I cant hear Gaim or any other sounds at all
[08:08] <avinoam> I'm trying to figure out if the problems are because i pulled the card out, or because of other reasons
[08:08] <Cryptid> How do i open a certain port for input and output aMule says that port 4662 is not open so how do i open it???
[08:08] <avinoam> Habbie, it wouldn't fry the card or motherboard?
[08:09] <JurB> some help with mythtv please
[08:10] <avinoam> GNULinuxer, ??
[08:10] <SAM_theman> how i install java
[08:10] <Leprechaun23> what's the problem with your mythtv please
[08:11] <Leprechaun23> you want to install j2re?
[08:11] <Spudchat> hey guys i just dropped in to say that tux magazine has an excellent article on how to play wma's and dvds on ubuntu both the old one and the new one
[08:11] <SAM_theman> yup
[08:11] <SAM_theman> please
[08:12] <SAM_theman> i tried sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[08:12] <SAM_theman> didn't work
[08:13] <Leprechaun23> add this line to your sources.list: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[08:13] <SAM_theman> i am on brezz
[08:13] <Leprechaun23> next, apt-get update, then, sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[08:13] <SAM_theman> i tried that i think
[08:14] <boci^> hi
[08:14] <boci^> Why contain ubuntu buggy mysql?
[08:15] <typo> what's the package to use to report a bug against the kernel?
[08:15] <Leprechaun23> try searching in google for breezy java repositories
[08:16] <boci^> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4114
[08:16] <Leprechaun23> im preety sure you'll find it easily
[08:16] <dpirotte> How do you change the default version of gcc? i.e. from 4.0 to 3.4
[08:17] <Leprechaun23> try this: deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ breezy java
[08:17] <Otis> I configure a static IP address for my eth0 in the Network control pannel ... when I try to do a ping to my router from my PC I get a message like "no network found" ... how can I check what's wrong with the network device ? (yes, I have selected eth0 as the default gateway)
[08:18] <GigaClon> i get this message when running a program where can I find it?. libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:18] <ompaul> typo hit launchpad.net
[08:18] <n0odl3> GigaClon: type sudo apt-cache search libstdc++ | grep dev
[08:19] <scaine> Otis - what subnet mask are you using?  Is eth0 definitely the NIC connected to your router?
[08:19] <iceman_> Dang there have to be more Multiplayer games for linux . anyone know of some good games
[08:19] <Otis> 255.255.255.0
[08:19] <typo> ompaul: why? it's the main distro
[08:19] <frogzoo> iceman_, lincityNG looks promising
[08:19] <n0odl3> GigaClon: or try to find that lib in synaptic
[08:19] <Otis> scaine: that's a good point, there's an eth1 there. I should try that one
[08:19] <ubuntu> hi..
[08:19] <scaine> In that case, the first three octets of the router's address must be the same as the first three of your static IP... is that the case?
[08:20] <Otis> oh !
[08:20] <ompaul> typo, afik its where anything goes
[08:20] <fredy> iceman: enemy territory, nexuiz, americas army, warsow
[08:20] <scaine> ie... 192.168.1.1 for the router, then your static IP must be 192.168.1.x, where x is 2 to 254...
[08:20] <trinidad> I have a Kensington Mac SlimType Keyboard that runs in Windows (partially) and in Ubuntu (paritally).  Is there a way to may the keys of my keyboard which aren't recognized by the OS?
[08:20] <colen> have a quick qestion, if I get cds shipped to me will I be charged at all?
[08:20] <SAM_theman> how do i remove a folder in the termianl that has root sign on it
[08:21] <SAM_theman> root@BlackHawk:~# rm jre1.5.0_05
[08:21] <SAM_theman> rm: cannot remove `jre1.5.0_05': Is a directory
[08:21] <frogzoo> SAM_theman, rm '#' ?
[08:21] <iceman_> Anyone know any good multiplayer games for linux ..
[08:21] <dpirotte> Sam_theman... rm -r jre1.5.0_05
[08:21] <dpirotte> with sudo
[08:21] <trinidad> SAM_theman, try sudo rm ....
[08:21] <SAM_theman> WOohboo
[08:21] <SAM_theman> its gone
[08:22] <h4zn> how can i use a bit torrent on ubuntu?
[08:22] <Leprechaun23> did you find the repository?
[08:22] <SAM_theman> ok now how i move the jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[08:22] <SAM_theman>  files into the /usr/java/
[08:22] <frogzoo> is ubotu a bot, just btw?
[08:22] <tialoc> yes
[08:22] <Aven> what would I need to install to have my server support java?
[08:22] <trinidad> h4zn, try GNOME bit torrent
[08:22] <Aven> cause I get "USER: Not enough parameters" when I host a java applet..
[08:23] <trinidad> anyone have experience with keyboard mapping here that can help out?
[08:24] <Leprechaun23> http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ breezy java
[08:24] <ompaul> typo sorry it is  bugzilla
[08:24] <Leprechaun23> deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ breezy java
[08:24] <Leprechaun23> which map do you need?
[08:24] <trinidad> for kensington slim type keyboard for MAC
[08:25] <trinidad> not all keys are recognized under key mapping utilities
[08:25] <SAM_theman> soo..they had a .deb file
[08:25] <trinidad> need help on where to start for mapping the keys
[08:25] <h4zn> trinidad, okay...found the  page...now how do i download and install rpms?
[08:25] <trinidad> use synaptic
[08:25] <trinidad> h4zn, use Synaptic Package Manager
[08:25] <typo> ompaul: but what package?
[08:26] <Leprechaun23> urpmi -i package
[08:26] <trinidad> it's built in utility for installing/uninstalling apps in ubuntu
[08:27] <ompaul> typo, have a look at this http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=bugs.resolution%2C+relevance+desc&bug_status=__all__&product=&content=kernel
[08:27] <SAM_theman> is there some kind of Firewall or some kind of download blocker that is making my downloads slow??
[08:28] <EasterSunshine> hello everyone. can someone help me with starting up an ftp server daemon? the server wasn't running so i did sudo /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd restart and nothing happens
[08:28] <Aven> what would I need to install to have my server support java?
[08:28] <Aven> cause I get "USER: Not enough parameters" when I host a java applet..
[08:28] <BuFF> i've just installed ubuntu and don't know how to install a program witch ens with *.deb so coul anyone tell me the command how to install this package pls ?
[08:29] <robitaille> BuFF,  dpkg -i  whatever.deb
[08:29] <Leprechaun23> check the "/etc/init.d" maybe you don't have the pure-ftpd files yet
[08:29] <BuFF> thanks
[08:29] <jorgg> is there a good gnome-DC-client i can install with the synaptic?
[08:30] <dpirotte> I get make errors when using cpan to install modules... and I think it may be related to using gcc 4 instead of 3.4  ... is there a way to tell gcc which compiler version to use?
[08:30] <arktis> yes
[08:30] <arktis> export CC=gcc-3.4
[08:30] <dpirotte> fantastic
[08:30] <EasterSunshine> Leprechaun23: i did sudo apt-get install pure-ftpd, it is installed and the newest version
[08:31] <arktis> i usually have to logout to a shell in order for that to work..
[08:31] <mnault> is there a way to re-config xorg?
[08:31] <Leprechaun23> try /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd start
[08:31] <apokryphos> mnault: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:31] <mnault> thanks
[08:31] <arktis> beat me to it, yeah
[08:32] <arktis> what's going on with the forums?
[08:33] <L00pkiN> bye @llz
[08:33] <arktis> nevermind.
[08:33] <EasterSunshine> Leprechaun23: its still not under ps aux
[08:33] <X3rxes> Hi
[08:33] <EasterSunshine> Leprechaun23: and i recall that it used to always run like a month aog
[08:33] <X3rxes> I need some help if anyone can help me. I just finished installation of Ubuntu, now it says this: Sending SIGKILL to all proccesses. Please stand by while rebooting the system. [4296573.922000]  Restarting system.
[08:33] <vorpulus> how do I install a .tar.gz file on linux please?
[08:33] <X3rxes> And nothnig happends. :8
[08:34] <vorpulus> ubuntu*, not linux
[08:34] <arktis> extract the file
[08:34] <apokryphos> ubuntu is a linux distribution
[08:34] <apokryphos> vorpulus: extract it and read the INSTALL file
[08:34] <fmasi> Hi i like to know what will be the best copactatation i could use for a group of pictures i have ? i thout of jpeg and tar.bz2
[08:34] <vorpulus> how do I extract it?
[08:34] <arktis> you can do it easily from nautilus
[08:34] <vorpulus> I haven't installed a .tar.gz file yet
[08:34] <apokryphos> vorpulus: you should be able to right-click -> something -> extract (I presume)
[08:34] <apokryphos> (haven't used gnome in a while)
[08:34] <vorpulus> oh ok, sorry
[08:34] <vorpulus> that kind of extract
[08:35] <X3rxes> I need some help if anyone can help me. I just finished installation of Ubuntu, now it says this: Sending SIGKILL to all proccesses. Please stand by while rebooting the system. [4296573.922000]  Restarting system. I have been waiting for ages and now nothing happends.
[08:35] <arktis> yeah, it's an archive like zip
[08:35] <robertj> X3rxes: my advice would be to turn the computer off and restart it
[08:35] <X3rxes> Alright.
[08:35] <vorpulus> apokryphos, I've extracted it
[08:35] <arktis> read the installation instructions
[08:35] <thrush> vorpulus: there should be a README or INSTALL file
[08:35] <Sanne> fmasi: jpg is nice for real life photos, but be aware of the fact that jpg compression means loosing quality. A good lossless compression would be using png als file format, but you will probably getting larger files.
[08:36] <foomonkey> hey gang. any eclipse experts here? I am having a problem with it after installing via 'Applications -> Add Applications'. When I start a new Java project I get an error that was unable to load the JavaProjectWizard class.
[08:36] <gupta> Is there any thing like batch files for windows? to copy, or jsut run a series of scripts.
[08:36] <foomonkey> I'm using Breezy Badger by the way
[08:36] <dpirotte> Hmm, Arktis... how can I verify that the CC change stuck?
[08:36] <arktis> echo the variable
[08:36] <foomonkey> dpirotte> printenv CC
[08:37] <arktis> echo $CC
[08:37] <krystoff> hi there
[08:37] <vorpulus> man this stuff... If I could understand this I would be able to do it without the instructions
[08:37] <dpirotte> K, thanks.
[08:37] <fmasi> Sanne i have some scans of text my frend sended me as long as i can see what is reaten in it its ok for me. what compretion whill srink it the moust
[08:37] <apokryphos> vorpulus: exactly!
[08:37] <arktis> what are you trying to install, vorpulus ?
[08:37] <krystoff> please is there someone who have install oracle 10g with ubuntu ?
[08:37] <apokryphos> vorpulus: and that file explains it all :)
[08:37] <zachman123> What's the equivalent of the boot argument "dma" for ubuntu?  Like to correct the md5sum problems with some Plextor and BenQ DW16xx drives?
[08:38] <dpirotte> Still getting tons of errors from cpan... guess something else is the problem :)
[08:38] <Sanne> gupta: you can use almost anything to script in linux, much more than in windows, e.g: bash scripting, python, or  perl
[08:38] <fmasi> Sanne do you know enny program that can do the task fo me?
[08:38] <vorpulus> I've found readme.txt and the whole thing takes up 1/4 of the screen
[08:38] <vorpulus> arktis, America's Army
[08:38] <gupta> Sanne: thanks i never thought about it that way
[08:38] <ericz> anyone have experience using a "mobiletouch" usb data cable to connect to a cell phone w/ ubuntu?
[08:38] <vorpulus> arktis, CUBE*
[08:38] <vorpulus> I mean I actually google'd First person shooter's for linux
[08:39] <vorpulus> so you'd think it would be easy to install this thing
[08:39] <fmasi> ericz i use a usb cable to conect my motorola c650
[08:39] <hectorC> hello! Anyone could tell me which patch is the one to apply to a custom kernel for not loosing the ubuntu graphical boot? I've got the original Breezy kernel source but I don't know which one is the patch. Thanks!
[08:39] <ericz> fmasi, i'm looking more for how to make the cable work, drivers or something?
[08:39] <Sanne> fmasi: hmmm, text, so that's not photos... I would try both ong and jpg, png with highest compression, for jpg use the highest compression that gives acceptable quality. Then decide what's best for you. For a program you can use The GIMP.
[08:39] <vorpulus> apokryphos, how can something that takes up 1/4 of the screen explain it all?
[08:39] <tritium> hectorC, loosing?
[08:39] <krystoff> no one with oracle ??
[08:39] <zachman123> I keep getting md5sum errors installing (5.04 and 5.10) with my BenQ DW1640 which apparently needs dma on in order to read correctly... anyone know of a solution?
[08:39] <vorpulus> I learn by example, so I don't see how it helps that I have to go off and read about everything and then come back
[08:39] <apokryphos> vorpulus: there is no INSTALL file?
[08:40] <apokryphos> vorpulus: I kind of presupposed that it did... it's standard to have when compiling from source.
[08:40] <apokryphos> vorpulus: no...
[08:40] <Sanne> gupta: there's a guide called something like "advanced bash scripting guide", should I try to find it for you?
[08:40] <apokryphos> vorpulus: if I told you the plain commands you probably wouldn't have a clue as to what exactly they do
[08:40] <vorpulus> I'd work it out - I'm good at that
[08:40] <phar0z> haha
[08:40] <fmasi> Sanne  thx
[08:40] <gupta> Sanne, thanks again :), i'll look for it myself
[08:40] <phar0z> meer volk in debian :D
[08:40] <zachman123> Anyone?
[08:40] <vorpulus> I'm not good at spending hours on google trying to find out how to do this stuff
[08:40] <Sanne> gupta: ok :)
[08:40] <_profoX_> :P
[08:40] <_profoX_> boring -
[08:40] <phar0z> DEBIAN
[08:40] <_profoX_> kben hier weg he phar0z
[08:40] <_profoX_> yo
[08:40] <phar0z> yo
[08:40] <apokryphos> vorpulus: erm, this would take less than a minute to read :)
[08:41] <hectorC> tritium yes, If I build my own custom kernel (that means not using the offical Ubuntu source but the source from Linux.org) I loose the graphical boot
[08:41] <vorpulus> apokryphos, the install file?
[08:41] <apokryphos> vorpulus: if it doesn't have one I can pastebin an example INSTALL file for you
[08:41] <vorpulus> no I have an install file
[08:41] <apokryphos> vorpulus: the stuff you'd need to know, yes. It's only three steps.
[08:41] <Sanne> fmasi: another tip: I heard if you want to batch proccess a large number of images, have a look at image magick (never used it myself though)
[08:41] <apokryphos> ok, hold on
[08:41] <zachman123> no idea anyone?
[08:41] <arktis> vorpulus, why would anyone want to play a recruiter's game?
[08:42] <vorpulus> arktis, CUBE, not America's Army
[08:42] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/418526
[08:42] <arktis> ah
[08:42] <vorpulus> arktis, any game would do
[08:42] <SAM_theman> I play it
[08:42] <SAM_theman> AA
[08:42] <thrush> zachman123: enable dma?
[08:42] <apokryphos> vorpulus: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/418528
[08:42] <SAM_theman> AmericasArmy is cool
[08:42] <vorpulus> SAM_theman, I wanted to get something off you in PM!
[08:42] <zachman123> What's the boot argument for that?  just "dma" like in knoppix?
[08:42] <vorpulus> SAM_theman, but you never came back
[08:43] <arktis> "
[08:43] <arktis> The game is designed to provide young adults and their influencers with virtual insights into entry level Soldier training, training in units and Army operations so as to provide insights into what the Army is like."
[08:43] <psanchez> Ubuntu is beautiful, best distro i have used in a while!
[08:43] <SAM_theman> i know
[08:43] <SAM_theman> i had to redo my comp
[08:43] <arktis> "As in the past, the Army's success in attracting high-potential young adults is essential to building the world's premier land force"
[08:43] <SAM_theman> now its working
[08:43] <arktis> makes me sick
[08:43] <SAM_theman> stfu
[08:43] <SAM_theman> please
[08:43] <SAM_theman> and how old are u
[08:43] <apokryphos> SAM_theman: language
[08:44] <SAM_theman> srry
[08:44] <arktis> no, I have free speech. =)  but I am finished
[08:44] <SAM_theman> better be
[08:44] <zachman123> thrush, is "dma" the argument for that?
[08:44] <vorpulus> apokryphos, what's that?
[08:44] <psanchez> anyone know how to get totem to play dvds?
[08:44] <blank> hey guys, the only problem I have with linux is uninstalling things, I dont want to keep things I dont use, I want to uinstall eclipse, do I just delete the folder?
[08:44] <arktis> what's that supposed to mean?
[08:44] <SAM_theman> phew...
[08:44] <apokryphos> SAM_theman: please don't be annoying; and #ubuntu-offtopic exists for idle chatter
[08:44] <vorpulus> generic install instructions? So I should be able to apply them to this somehow?
[08:44] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/418526
[08:44] <vorpulus> SAM_theman, do you know how to get counter strike working?
[08:44] <SAM_theman> whats going there?
[08:44] <apokryphos> vorpulus: it's generic instructions for compiling from source -- probably what you need to do for that thing you have. Though, you cannot, of course, be sure. A tar.gz is just an archive, like a zip file; it can have anything inside
[08:45] <Aven> Hey, for vsftpd...
[08:45] <vorpulus> steam working*
[08:45] <SAM_theman> with cedega?
[08:45] <blank> vorpulus, use cedega or wine
[08:45] <Aven> how do you lock a user in a directory?
[08:45] <blank> I recommend Cedega
[08:45] <tritium> arktis, this is not the forum for that
[08:45] <vorpulus> yes with cedega SAM_theman
[08:46] <vorpulus> also apokryphos, how can a game be 30mb
[08:46] <vorpulus> that's so small
[08:46] <blank> can anyone help me with the problem of uninstalling eclipse?
[08:46] <SAM_theman> and P2P?
[08:46] <apokryphos> vorpulus: totally depends on what type of game it is. That's huge compared to some other Linux games
[08:46] <vorpulus> it's an FPS
[08:46] <vorpulus> with what looks like good graphics
[08:47] <SAM_theman> well havn't use CS  because like i said my cd key was hacked :P
[08:47] <odie5533> is there anyway to use NetBeans on Ubuntu?
[08:47] <psanchez> totem help anyone?
[08:47] <apokryphos> vorpulus: note also that .gz is a compression, even if it's not that significant
[08:47] <odie5533> !ask
[08:47] <odie5533> psanchez, what is your question?
[08:47] <SAM_theman> when i installed the http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/dists/breezy/java/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb
[08:48] <SAM_theman> nothing happeneds?
[08:48] <odie5533> SAM_theman, what do you mean nothing?
[08:48] <SAM_theman> java is still the same
[08:48] <vorpulus> yeah so I've decompressed it, and now I'm trying to use the instructions you gave me
[08:48] <EasterSunshine> what is the command to completely remove a package? i did sudo apt-get remove pure-ftpd, but pure-ftpd configs and stuff still exist under /etc
[08:48] <SAM_theman> i did java -version
[08:48] <vorpulus> but no doubt, as usual, I'll hit a brick wall when they decide to be unclear
[08:48] <blueyed> I'd like to add the "recent" module to iptables. Is it available through apt/dpkg?
[08:48] <arktis> EasterSunshine, you can completely remove the config files from synaptec
[08:49] <apokryphos> vorpulus: have you got a link to the .tar.gz?
[08:49] <tritium> SAM_theman, build your own .deb of java with java-package
[08:49] <nickrud> SAM_theman, do sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:49] <vorpulus> at the moment I am inside the extracted cube file in terminal apokryphos
[08:49] <arktis> click the status button and the select not installed (residual condig) on the left
[08:49] <EasterSunshine> arktis: sry, i don't have synaptic
[08:49] <tritium> EasterSunshine, yes you do
[08:49] <hedonick> EasterSunshine: usually you do "apt-get --purge remove <package>" to remove all confs... you can remove confs after a package is removed is "dpkg --purge package" to remove conf files
[08:50] <apokryphos> vorpulus: perhaps you're not supposed to compile from source. In which case the readme will almost definitely have the correct instructions
[08:50] <EasterSunshine> hedonick: thx that it what i was looking for
[08:50] <apokryphos> vorpulus: can't do much without having a look at the actual pack though...
[08:50] <EasterSunshine> tritium: i am on kubuntu hoary so i have kynaptic, which doesn't have purge options, so i needed commandline stuff
[08:50] <vorpulus> apokryphos, can I show you the install instructions, and either show you what I mean about them being vague, or show how lazy I've been?
[08:50] <tritium> EasterSunshine, all right
[08:51] <apokryphos> vorpulus: if you want. If you gave me a link to where you got it from it'd be easier probably
[08:51] <vorpulus> apokryphos, to where I got the game from? That would be here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=91993
[08:52] <axel> hey people
[08:52] <apokryphos> vorpulus: the "cube"? Are you sure?
[08:53] <apokryphos> ergh, ignore
[08:53] <vorpulus> ok
[08:53] <arktis> http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Cube
[08:54] <shinu> how would i go about changing the colour of the console in text mode?
[08:54] <shinu> like background and foreground colour
[08:54] <bmk789> good question
[08:55] <shinu> i think i just found the answer.. brb
[08:55] <axel> Help, does someone know why when I run Folding@Home console, it doesnt take the CPU up to the max (2.4ghz), it stays down on 800mhz scale
[08:55] <arktis> I'd like to know, too, shinu
[08:55] <shinu> arktis: let me just test it here :P
[08:55] <blank> Hello, how may I uninstall eclipse?
[08:55] <apokryphos> vorpulus: make sure you're in the appropriate directory and just  type  ./cube_unix
[08:55] <bmk789> ohh! folding@home person!
[08:55] <bmk789> cool
[08:55] <odie5533> blank: howd you install it?
[08:55] <vorpulus> yes I'm in the directory with that in
[08:55] <vorpulus> apokryphos,
[08:55] <blank> synaptic
[08:56] <blank> odie5533: synaptic
[08:56] <bmk789> axel: is the proc have HT?
[08:56] <odie5533> ah, thanks
[08:56] <vorpulus> ./bin_unix/linux_client: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2
[08:56] <tritium> bmk789, that question makes no sense
[08:56] <blank> anyone??
[08:56] <vorpulus> apokryphos, error posted above
[08:56] <mushtaq> hi i want to try my server (ubuntu) i am student but i dont have a fix ip
[08:57] <vorpulus> apokryphos, error - surprise surprise.
[08:57] <bmk789> ik....axel: does the cpu have HT?
[08:57] <axel> bmk789: im not sure, its a amd64 3700+, how can I check ?
[08:57] <apokryphos> vorpulus: welcome to dependency hell :)
[08:57] <mushtaq> is there any website which can maintain dynamic ip to give fix ip ?
[08:57] <bmk789> ams dont
[08:57] <bmk789> amds*
[08:57] <vorpulus> so I need to go into synaptic now or something I guess apokryphos ?
[08:57] <arktis> vorpulus, install the libSDL_image package
[08:57] <blank> how can I compile a simple file in GCC
[08:57] <vorpulus> off to synaptic I go...
[08:57] <vorpulus> why can't it just automatically install it for me
[08:57] <arktis> there's probably a dev one too...
[08:57] <mushtaq> is there any website which can maintain dynamic ip to give fix ip ?
[08:57] <tritium> blank, have you installed build-essential?
[08:57] <Chizn> how would i mount a mass storage device?
[08:58] <blank> gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus': No such file or directory
[08:58] <SEJeff> mushtaq: dyndns.org
[08:58] <blank> build essentials?
[08:58] <Chizn> mushtaq, no-ip.org also
[08:58] <bmk789> axel : where do you read the percent?
[08:58] <blank> I just installed GCC, but it isn't working
[08:58] <apokryphos> blank: install the build-essential package
[08:58] <blank> can you please give me the package name? so I can installed it with apt-get
[08:58] <tritium> blank, build-essential (with a "-" and no "s")
[08:58] <axel> bmk789: with the cpu scale thingy, and i can hear the fans arent working too much either
[08:58] <blank> okay thanks
[08:59] <axel> bmk789: the thing is other apps have the max 2.4 when they need it
[08:59] <Chizn> !usb
[08:59] <ubotu> Chizn: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:59] <bmk789> are other programs taking the other 70% maybe?
[08:59] <Chizn> !mass storage
[08:59] <ubotu> Chizn: Are you on ritalin?
[08:59] <Chizn> lol
[08:59] <frogzoo> Chizn, man mkfs ; man mount
[08:59] <ericz> anyone know what "acm" abstract control modules or w/e drivers are... that could possibly let me connect to my cell phone through a usb data cable?
[09:00] <axel> bmk789: no, nothing else is running
[09:00] <tritium> !goirish
[09:00] <bmk789> axel: come to #fah
[09:00] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, goirish is Go Irish!  Beat Volunteers!
[09:00] <shinu> w00t!
[09:00] <shinu> i got it
[09:00] <shinu> arktis: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8603
[09:00] <shinu> arktis: here is the article that explains it
[09:00] <vorpulus> apokryphos, to be honest, this is just ridiculous. Windows is so much easier.
[09:00] <arktis> thanks! =)
[09:00] <odie5533> What is a BreezyBounty?
[09:01] <tenco> hi there
[09:01] <tenco> are there any boinc packages?
[09:01] <apokryphos> vorpulus: for 99% of packages it surely isn't
[09:01] <shinu> arktis: when you must enter ^[[ in the terminal, remember that the first one is an escape character.
[09:01] <apokryphos> vorpulus: unless you're heavily into gaming, in which I admit support would be bad. I guess I'm lucky in not caring for games much at all
[09:01] <arktis> yup, thanks
[09:01] <shinu> arktis: you must enter by pressing: ctrl+v and then esc button
[09:01] <tritium> If I had time for games, I'd still not play them.
[09:02] <thrush> only play games at work ;)
[09:02] <vbgunz> some clowns...
[09:02] <tritium> thrush, that would be a good way to lose a job
[09:02] <vbgunz> sheesh, whats the point
[09:03] <vpnsctl> I'm having problem with the instalation
[09:03] <St3althcAt> Hi, I'm having some troubles playing World of Warcraft with Wine, can't click anything, tried the Cedega correction but didn't work and also I'm having sound and graphics stuttering. Forum is still down, so if someone could help me, I would be glad. Thank you
[09:03] <vpnsctl> ubuntu is not able to recognize my partitions
[09:03] <scaine> ...unless you're Microsoft.
[09:03] <thrush> nah tech support HD. I spend about 45 min of 11 hrs working
[09:03] <vorpulus> apokryphos, what are the advantages of linux? What can you do on linux that you can't do better on windows?
[09:03] <nickrud> can someone give me a deb line for an ooo2.0 repository?
[09:03] <tritium> thrush, must be nice
[09:03] <dbug> when I changed the sshd_config file, how can I make sshd apply the changes?
[09:04] <scaine> vorpulus, you can save some money... by not buying windows.
[09:04] <tritium> nick58b, the openoffice.org2 packages (betas) aren't quite good enough?
[09:04] <vpnsctl> another thing
[09:04] <vorpulus> scaine, I already have windows
[09:04] <apokryphos> vorpulus: ultimately easy access to a plethora of packages, freeness/openess, virus-free, stable, very efficient with memory use, integration, community, a lot of the applications it has.
[09:04] <tritium> nickrud, that ^ was for you
[09:04] <nickrud> tritium, I have printing issues, I'd like to check a later version
[09:04] <scaine> I had it, but they changed the license, so I didn't get it through work anymore.
[09:04] <picca> vorpulus,  you can run the linux kernel under gnu/linux which you can't do on windows
[09:04] <scaine> No way I'm paying Microsoft a penny, so I switched.
[09:04] <vorpulus> I uninstalled it because it wasn't working properly and gave Linux a try, it's just difficult, and I don't want to spend the rest of my life learning how to use it
[09:04] <tritium> nickrud, just double-checking
[09:04] <nickrud> :)
[09:05] <vpnsctl> in my sister's computer, there is ubuntu but my mother installed windows xp and as expected, the mbr was cleaned. Is there anyway to reput the grub into the system?
[09:05] <apokryphos> vorpulus: it doesn't require the rest of your life, but it does require some diligence (as things are)
[09:05] <scaine> Vorpulus, yep, it took me about 3-4 months to learn how to use it as effectively as windows.
[09:05] <apokryphos> it's not for the [ignorant?]  masses just yet, I don't think =)
[09:05] <scaine> Got there though.  Pretty happy now.
[09:05] <Xu> :)
[09:05] <vorpulus> I wasted the whole of yesterday and today trying to get some things to work
[09:05] <apokryphos> took me a few weeks :P
[09:05] <vorpulus> I like the style of linux
[09:05] <Sanne> vorpulus: the motivation of the people developing free software are mostly different (and in my opinion, preferable) to those of corporations wrt their proprietary software. This is, for me, the main reason for using Linux.
[09:05] <EasterSunshine> windows took me like eight or nine years to figure out, linux took me a couple of months
[09:05] <thrush> vpnsctl:  u have a livecd?
[09:05] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, dl a copy of "recovery is possible" - the cd has grub on it, you can boot you box, & reinstall grub
[09:05] <vorpulus> Sanne, thanks. Nice view.
[09:06] <Sanne> vorpulus: :)
[09:06] <Chizn> does ubuntu support USB flash drives?
[09:06] <mushtaq> SEJeff, dyndns.org i can make my ip fix ?
[09:06] <scaine> A lot of people think Linux is harder, cos they already know Windows.  Truth is, they're pretty similar, but one is famiiar.
[09:06] <tritium> yes, Chizn
[09:06] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, where can I get that?
[09:06] <tritium> cos is not a word
[09:06] <frogzoo> Chizn, mostly, yes
[09:06] <Chizn> how do i get it working?
[09:06] <jron> I have a ATI TV Wonderer VE... it for whatever reason tvtime detects the signal to be pal so everything is black and white and off by 1 chan... i've had this problem before and i used the fix on the website to solve it... that fix being adding:  options bttv card=1 autoload=0 radio=0 tuner=2 to /etc/modules.conf that was using gentoo however... now when i put the same line in my modules file for ubuntu, it does nothing...
[09:06] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, google knows everything ;)
[09:06] <wezzer> is there any torrent program without gui to use in ubuntu?
[09:06] <vorpulus> Man apokryphos , I think I'm just going to keep getting things I need to install on synaptic forever
[09:06] <vorpulus> and ever
[09:06] <SEJeff> mushtaq: Yes, don't ask me how to do it. It's easy
[09:06] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, thanks! :)
[09:07] <tritium> jron, tvtime should have a config file in /etc
[09:07] <vbgunz> vorpulus: Vista, the next version of Windows, will cost you money whether you buy it direct or buy a PC equipped with it. Plus, chances are extremely high Vista will not run on your current box. It is made for hardware which isn't even in mass production yet. Even if you buy a new PC, outside of the new features, you'll be limited with Vista as chances are high Vista will run either less programs on the desktop or just as many as you run 
[09:07] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, is it hard to do?
[09:07] <apokryphos> vorpulus: that's how it should be, for around 99% of things ;-)
[09:07] <tenco> are there any boinc packages for ubuntu?
[09:07] <apokryphos> vorpulus: make sure you have all the repositories enabled; you have access to 16K+ packs there :)
[09:07] <jron> bttv module is being loaded just fine... but it isn't in /etc/modules... what is calling this module to be loaded?
[09:07] <picca> well put vbgunz
[09:07] <Chizn> hello?
[09:07] <mushtaq> SEJeff, i wont just signing with it
[09:07] <theo2520> yes, Chizn
[09:07] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, come back to the forums - someone will walk you through it
[09:08] <tritium> jron, it's probably getting hotplugged
[09:08] <bmk789> i think you can get a boinc rpm on the site
[09:08] <vorpulus> apokryphos, how do I do that please?
[09:08] <scaine> Chizn, hello.
[09:08] <apokryphos> !tell vorpulus about repositories
[09:08] <Sanne> vorpulus: As I switched to Linux, I spend much more than a day getting things to work and learning how this new system works, but I wouldn't say that I "wasted" those days. But that, of course, depends on my preferences, yours may differ. I bleieve, though, that Ubuntu is a nice distro to make the switch as painless as possible :).
[09:08] <tritium> vorpulus, I might suggest that you read the Ubuntu 5.10 Starter Guide in the help system installed on your machine
[09:08] <Chizn> how would i get it running?
[09:08] <jron> tritium, how can i pass options to a module being hotplugged? the way i would do it before would be put the module in /etc/modules then in /etc/modutils add a bttv file with the options i need passed to it...
[09:09] <lee> argh... I can't win!
[09:09] <vbgunz> picca, thanks, vorpulus, there are many advantages, it doesn't take ages to learn, I've been on MS for over ten years. On Ubuntu for less than 60 days and I already do everything on Ubuntu in which I learn on MS... Ubuntu is only as hard as you make it. Plus, with the support here on IRC and the forums, forget about it, you'll never be alone with your problems :)
[09:09] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, unfortunately, I believe it is offline
[09:09] <frogzoo> Sanne, doze to new users, still takes quite some time to get up to speed
[09:09] <Chizn> would i just mount the USB port that it is on or is there something special?
[09:09] <scaine> vorpulus, in Synaptic, you choose settings/repositories, then put ticks next to the Universe and Multiverse options.
[09:09] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, at least for the last hours
[09:09] <blank> Hi guys, I installed eclipse (with synaptic) but I would like to uninstall it, how may I do so?
[09:09] <tritium> jron, right
[09:09] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, sry, meant come back here - it's just a few lines, but theyre pretty obscure
[09:09] <vbgunz> good day tritium!
[09:09] <Sanne> frogzoo: yeah, you need a pretty high frustration tolerance sometimes ;)
[09:09] <St3althcAt> vorpulos I must say, I use Linux for about 6 months, Ubuntu for about one month ore two and first time I used it I became frustrated because I couldn't understand some stuff, took days to configure my system, but I didn't give up
[09:09] <lee> I'm running breezy, and kernel 2.6.12-9-686, whenever I plug in my firewire hd (fat32 formatted), I get a kernel bug ... does anybody else have this problem?
[09:10] <thrush> vpnsctl: three steps to reinstall grub: type grub enter, at grub> type setup (hd0,1) or whatever ubuntu is on, then root (hd0) or something like that from livecd
[09:10] <tritium> you too, vbgunz
[09:10] <St3althcAt> now I can configure my system in approximately half an hour
[09:10] <jron> tritium, but if the module is being hotplugged, adding it to modules is pointless correct?
[09:10] <thrush> vpnsctl: actually that backwards ;)
[09:10] <jron> .    /etc/modules i should say
[09:10] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, do you have the live cd? if so, you don't need the dl
[09:10] <St3althcAt>  Hi, I'm having some troubles playing World of Warcraft with Wine, can't click anything, tried the Cedega correction but didn't work and also I'm having sound and graphics stuttering. Forum is still down, so if someone could help me, I would be glad. Thank you
[09:10] <Blissex> iron: depends on _when_ you want the module to load...
[09:10] <SAM_theman> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[09:10] <SAM_theman> ?
[09:11] <vbgunz> St3althcAt: Me too... In a ahalf hour I can get Ubuntu up the way I like it from a fresh install... I already freshly installed it several times just to learn how :)
[09:11] <Blissex> SAM_theman: it is a restrictred binary look at the Wiki
[09:11] <thrush> vpnsctl: root () then setup ()
[09:11] <jron> i just need these options to apply to the module... and right now, they arnt =(
[09:11] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, yes, I do..
[09:11] <jron> Blissex,
[09:11] <picca> i have to admit to taking a year off Linux and using Windows XP, then about a month ago i went back to Linux From Scratch ... realised life is too short and tried Ubuntu - now Ubuntu is the only O/S on my computer and the wife can use it just fine - don't think i will look back
[09:11] <SAM_theman> wiki??
[09:12] <vorpulus> tritium, vbgunz scaine Sanne apokryphos  - Thanks
[09:12] <scaine> St3althcAt, you might want to try the Cedega forums : http://transgaming.org/forum/
[09:12] <Chizn> does nobody know how to run a usb flash drive on ubuntu?
[09:12] <bmk789> plug in the drive?
[09:12] <vpnsctl> thrush, do I have to put hd0 or hda*?
[09:12] <vorpulus> The game is up and running
[09:12] <scaine> vorpulus, Good luck.
[09:12] <arktis> it should work fine if you just plug it in, Chizn
[09:12] <vorpulus> cheers
[09:12] <Sanne> vorpulus: you're welcome, and good luck (and don't give up) :)
[09:12] <picca> Chizn, for me it is as simple as plugging it in and appearing on the deskotp
[09:12] <jron> Chizn, shouldn't hot or coldplug pick it up right away?
[09:12] <Chizn> oh.. hum
[09:12] <frogzoo> welll you're in business - boot grub & hit c to get command line - then "root (hd1,0)" "kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=(hd1,0) ro" then "boot"
[09:12] <thrush> vpnsctl: hda = hd0 in grub hda1 = hda0 in grub it starts at 0 instead of 1
[09:12] <vorpulus> well the fact this game is actually working is some motivation to keep at it Sanne :)
[09:12] <Chizn> nomed, i plugged it in and nothing happened
[09:12] <vbgunz> vorpulus: your welcome, exactly like Windows to a first time user, Ubuntu will not take that long to get comfortable with ;)
[09:12] <Chizn> nop*
[09:12] <vorpulus> and it loaded up real quick too
[09:13] <vorpulus> I'll keep at it.
[09:13] <Sanne> vorpulus: yes, I know, nothing motivates as good as a success hehe
[09:13] <scaine> Guys, I'm using X-Chat.  Is there a quick way to include someone's name in your text from the left-hand column?  I'm double clicking on it, copying, then pasting...
[09:13] <SAM_theman> thank
[09:13] <SAM_theman> thanks
[09:13] <thrush> vpnsctl: ach I cant type today hda1 = hd0,0
[09:13] <scaine> Or is there a killer IRC program I should be using.
[09:13] <arktis> type the first few letters and hit tab, scaine
[09:13] <picca> scaine, you are using the killer application :)
[09:14] <vpnsctl> thrush, I'm not sure, but I believe it is installed on hda3
[09:14] <scaine> arktis, awesome!  Nice one dude!
[09:14] <frogzoo> thrush, I believe hda1 = (hd1,0)
[09:14] <vpnsctl> thrush, how do I write that in grub?
[09:14] <arktis> =)
[09:14] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, ^^
[09:14] <dbug> when I changed the sshd_config file, how can I make sshd apply the changes? or how can I restart it without rebooting?
[09:15] <blank> does anyone know how to use eclipse with C++, I cant seem to find how to compile things
[09:15] <vorpulus> alright now the rso is so low i can't even see what i'm writing
[09:15] <thrush> vpnsctl: frogzoo hangon one sec i might be loosing my mind...
[09:15] <vbgunz> vorpulus: listen, search the web for general articles about Linux... Just articles that about it and search for the infamous Vs articles, you be surprised! I remember about 30 days into reading as much as I could about Linux turning to my wife and saying "The more I learn about Linux the more I get scared of Windows..."... No joke, read some stuff and get into the atmosphere of things when possible... It is good here!
[09:15] <frogzoo> dbug - kill -HUP ?
[09:15] <vorpulus> my mouse pointer isn't moving either
[09:15] <scaine> This IRC stuff is pretty adictive.  I could sit here all night just watching the chat.  And that's pretty sad...
[09:15] <evilfix> i just installed ubuntu and i have a question, i noticed when i try to do anything on the internet, there is 20 sec delay before it responds. i know its not lag or anything. is it because i have 2 nics and one is not used?
[09:15] <dbug> what would that do frogzoo ?
[09:15] <vorpulus> i am not even sure if this text is coming up yet,
[09:15] <arktis> ever read bash.org, scaine ?
[09:15] <frogzoo> thrush, 5$ says it's hda1 = (hd1,0)
[09:15] <forrest> can somebody possibly help me with recompiling the kernel?  I have done it before with the help from ubuntuforums.org but it is currently down.
[09:15] <kung> gn8
[09:16] <gupta> Which folders to backup? is  there any list. i just need the essential parts, not A-Z
[09:16] <frogzoo> dbug - typically daemons reload their configs on a HUP
[09:16] <scaine> Nope.  Bash, as in the linux shell?
[09:16] <arktis> no, as in the website
[09:16] <scaine> I'll check it out.
[09:16] <vorpulus> type things!
[09:16] <arktis> it's full of humorous and offensive irc quotes
[09:16] <jorgg> yo ubuntu!
[09:16] <scaine> :-)
[09:16] <scaine> I'm on it now... nice one.  Another night wasted.  :-)
[09:17] <thrush> vpnsctl: I would do this type sudo grub, then at grub> root (hd0,2) then setup (hd0)
[09:17] <Zeep> wow, installing FreeBSD is a bit like rocket science ;-)
[09:17] <arktis> lol
[09:17] <vorpulus> at the moment I can see something vbgunz has just told me
[09:17] <vorpulus> that's where the screen is up to...
[09:17] <gupta> Imp folders to backup, anybody?? I don't want to install my apps everytime.
[09:17] <vorpulus> q
[09:17] <vpnsctl> thrush, that's all?
[09:17] <frogzoo> thrush, vpnsctl has clobbered the MBR - needs to boot from grub on CD
[09:17] <scaine> arktis, You seem to know your X-Chat.  Is there anyway of filtering the previous messages to just a few users?
[09:17] <solidgroove> freebsd would be nice if I knew how to install ports from wan network
[09:17] <vbgunz> vorpulus: you have some catching up to do... Are you on a wireless connection?
[09:18] <thrush> vpnsctl: from livecd that should reinstall
[09:18] <scaine> So that I can see just you, jorgg and gupta's responses for example?
[09:18] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, scrolll up - I ain't gonna type a 3 command sequence in twice
[09:18] <Phluxy> hey i have a powerbook g3 wallstreet and the ubuntu live cd didn't boot. why?
[09:18] <thrush> vpnsctl: BUT u said xp was just installed..
[09:18] <vbgunz> Anybody here play the Rockstar game "Warriors"? its pretty good so far!
[09:18] <vpnsctl> thrush, yes, xp was installed and cleaned the mbr
[09:19] <frogzoo> anybody know where there's a repo with the matrix reloaded screensaver?
[09:19] <arktis> not that I am aware of.  good question.  I suppose the best way is for the chanop to give voice only to a few people and then turn on the filter, silencing anyone without voice.
[09:19] <scaine> vbgunz, I just saw an advert for that today.  Rockstar are on the floor above us, so I follow their stuff.  Never heard about Warriors though...
[09:19] <solidgroove> installing a 5cd game with a 8x cd rom is fun
[09:19] <Phluxy> will ubuntu work on a powebook G3 wallstreet?
[09:19] <EpP> hey i want to know if ubuntu will run better on 90nm or 0.13 m?
[09:19] <thrush> vpnsctl: you will need to add XP manually.  There is an example in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:20] <thrush> vpnsctl: its commented out but the only thing u would need to change is the partition info
[09:20] <SAM_theman> lol try installing AA 2.5 for linux on a 300mhz computer HAHA
[09:20] <Potterwins> anybody else have trouble installing J2SE Runtime Environment
[09:20] <arktis> scaine, there may be a plugin for that
[09:20] <vpnsctl> thrush, but I'm a little bit confused now. what do I do? I put the live cd on, after the whole thing starts, I go to a terminal, write sudo grub, then root (hd0,2) then setup (hd0), and allright, now it's just have some fun?
[09:20] <Zeep> solidgroove: At the moment, I'm reading about ports - but, all in all, it doesn't sound as intiuitive as I am used to with apt ;-=
[09:20] <SAM_theman> its 2gb
[09:20] <vbgunz> scaine: you work underneath Rockstar games? They must be one of the coolest game makers out there.. They really know how to make a game fun and funny... Warriors is there latest edition, good game so far, it's crazy too :)
[09:20] <frogzoo> Potterwins, only everyone - should be some good howtos via google
[09:20] <niekniek> i have a question. i use sshfs to mount a remote filesystem. so far no problem. but now i wan't to be able to access this remote mounted filesystem through smb. as soon as i mount the share with sshfs it disappeares in the samba share.
[09:20] <thrush> vpnsctl: first thing is sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:20] <Potterwins> lol
[09:21] <vpnsctl> thrush, ok, that I can do
[09:21] <vpnsctl> thrush, without many problems
[09:21] <thrush> vpnsctl: then there is a windows entry commented out
[09:21] <EpP> hey i want to know if ubuntu will run better on 90nm or 0.13 m? anyone can help?
[09:21] <scaine> vbgunz, Secretive buggers though.  My boss got a walk through their office, but I never got the invite.  If they ever want a shit-hot Network administrator, I'll be first in the queue.  :-)
[09:21] <niekniek> trush... you are back :)
[09:21] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, put the cd in - boot the pc & hit 'c' to get a grub command open then....
[09:21] <thrush> vpnsctl: copy and past to bottom of file and change whatever partition info is in it to your win partition
[09:22] <niekniek> maybe you can get me an answer
[09:22] <Phluxy> please answer my question
[09:22] <Phluxy> about ubuntu
[09:22] <Phluxy> since this is a ubuntu chat
[09:22] <niekniek> trush: i use sshfs to mount a remote filesystem. so far no problem. but now i wan't to be able to access this remote mounted filesystem through smb. as soon as i mount the share with sshfs it disappeares in the samba share.
[09:22] <dbug>  thx frogzoo the kill -HUP worked
[09:22] <scaine> vbgunz, The MD has a DB9 which he parks (usually overnight) in our garage (it's a shared office space).  Talk about rubbing your noses in it...
[09:22] <frogzoo> choice, that's good to know dbug
[09:22] <vpnsctl> thrush, ok
[09:22] <Potterwins> hmmmm appears the ubuntu forums are down
[09:23] <scaine> Phluxy, maybe not a lot of people have tried installing Ubuntu on a Powerbook... sorry man.
[09:23] <thrush> vpnsctl:  and change the title to something like "Abandon all hope ye who enter here"
[09:23] <Phluxy> hmmm
[09:23] <vpnsctl> thrush, then, I just have to follow what you wrote and then.. that's it?
[09:23] <scaine> But I'm pretty sure there's a powerPC version of Ubuntu, so it should work, right?
[09:23] <thrush> vpnsctl: should be
[09:23] <Phluxy> because mac os 9 just doesn't do much
[09:23] <Phluxy> i am on it now
[09:24] <Phluxy> i desperately want to switch to linux for this mac
[09:24] <vpnsctl> thrush, ok!! thanks, I'll give it a try
[09:24] <EpP> hey i want to know if ubuntu will run better on 90nm or 0.13 m?
[09:24] <evilfix> whats the default root password
[09:24] <thrush> vpnsctl: ill be here ;)
[09:24] <vbgunz> scaine: I swear them dudes must get high on everything before they start programming... There games are so good because they're not afraid of cheezy!
[09:24] <scaine> What about OSX?  I heard it's pretty good...
[09:24] <vpnsctl> thrush, if something go wrong, I'll get the CIA to bring your body to me :D
[09:24] <Agrajag> evilfix: what makes you think there's a default root password, that'd be horrible
[09:24] <thrush> vpnsctl: heh goog luck
[09:24] <Agrajag> evilfix: use sudo
[09:24] <vbgunz> evilfix: the default password is your userpassword
[09:24] <Agrajag> !rootsudo
[09:24] <EpP> hey i want to know if ubuntu will run better on 90nm or 0.13 m?
[09:24] <ubotu> rootsudo is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:24] <EpP> hey i want to know if ubuntu will run better on 90nm or 0.13 m?
[09:24] <Phluxy> os x is great...if it worked on this computer
[09:24] <thrush> vpnsctl: good
[09:24] <Phluxy> it works on my powermac g3 blue and white
[09:24] <frogzoo> EpP, is a bot
[09:25] <EpP> wtf no im not.
[09:25] <St3althcAt> well in about 2 years or so u'll be able to install OS X on 386
[09:25] <scaine> Aye, vbgunz, we needed extra security for about a month after ManHunt came out.  They seriously put extra guys on the desk, cos the Daily Record kept trying to get in unannounced.  They have brass balls, that's for sure.
[09:25] <EpP> frogzoo, is crazy.
[09:25] <St3althcAt> with the new Mac processor being manufactured by Intel
[09:25] <Agrajag> St3althcAt: haha what
[09:25] <frogzoo> :p
[09:25] <elena26> hola, alguien habla castellano?
[09:25] <vpnsctl> thrush, going now! thank you...
[09:25] <vbgunz> scaine:  Rockstar is located where?
[09:25] <Potterwins> how would you install a game that was not listed in the depository?
[09:25] <Phluxy> ubuntu is compatable with NEW software. mac os 9 is NOT
[09:25] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, thank you too
[09:25] <Potterwins> repository sorry
[09:25] <St3althcAt> elena26, no mucho pero posso ayudar
[09:26] <vpnsctl> see ya
[09:26] <blank> in gnome, how can I make it so that when I maximize a window (say firefox) it goes over the bottom and top bars
[09:26] <Agrajag> it might run on a P4, but  386?
[09:26] <scaine> vbgunz, Edinburgh, Scotland (UK).
[09:26] <vbgunz> scaine: I have to pay a visit, I'd clean all there toilets for some of there smoke ;)
[09:26] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, glad you're back in business
[09:26] <scaine> :-)
[09:26] <frogzoo> too slow
[09:26] <farruinn> blank: for firefox (won't work for others) just hit F11
[09:26] <vbgunz> scaine: :P
[09:26] <arktis> blank, xcompmgr has a bug that makes application windows overlap the toolbars
[09:26] <scaine> vbgunz, I'm first in queue for Toilet Cleaner too dude.  Sorry.
[09:26] <farruinn> blank: (view>full screen)
[09:26] <St3althcAt> Agrajag, if I find the article I'll show you. Mac processors are going to be made on Intel and they are thinking on passing OS X to 386 too
[09:26] <EpP> hey so what is the diff in 90nm and 0.13m?
[09:27] <akurashy> hey!, what app can i use in linux to rip a cd to mp3, sound juicer to ogg is kinda making the sound poor quality :(
[09:27] <Agrajag> St3althcAt: I don't thin k you understand what a 386 is.
[09:27] <vbgunz> scaine: ok, second in queue with my toungue :P
[09:27] <frogzoo> EpP, 40nm - duh
[09:27] <scaine> vbgunz, :-)
[09:27] <blank> view full screen? yeah but I dont mean application dependant, I want it so that the toolbars aren't always on top
[09:27] <airmikey> whats a good program to change my wallpaper
[09:27] <vbgunz> scaine: I just want what they smoking :D
[09:27] <St3althcAt> Agrajag, I'm talking about the architecure
[09:27] <St3althcAt> x86 sorry
[09:27] <St3althcAt> :P
[09:27] <blank> kinda like arktis says
[09:27] <blank> anyone know?
[09:27] <arktis> blank, run xcompmgr without shadows or anything and you'll get what you want
[09:27] <St3althcAt> my mistake
[09:27] <solidgroove> akurashy, install lame and use grip
[09:27] <Coweater> EpP: a smaller die which requires better heat interface with the heatsink for equivalent cooling
[09:27] <blank> xcompmgr? just type that in the terminal
[09:28] <arktis> you need to install it first
 akurashy, install lame and use grip < kk will try, thanks! :)
[09:28] <EpP> hey so what is the diff in 90nm and 0.13m?
[09:28] <EpP> hey so what is the diff in 90nm and 0.13m?
[09:28] <blank> sudo apt-get install xcommgr?
[09:28] <Coweater> EpP: stop repeating
[09:28] <blank> *xcompmgr
[09:28] <solidgroove> akurashy, or use gstreamer-lame from multiverse to add mp3 to sound juicer
[09:28] <arktis> xcompmgr
[09:28] <scaine> akurashy, Sorry to jump in, but I can back solidgroove.  Grip rocks.  Very easy gui, once you get the command line for lame in there.  Nice program.
[09:28] <Agrajag> St3althcAt: also, Apple is going to do everything in their power to ensure that OS X will not install on non-Apple hardware.
[09:28] <EpP> Coweater, then answer my qustion
[09:29] <tritium> EpP, don't be rude
[09:29] <St3althcAt> Agrajag, yes I also have that opinion but I'm only saying what I've read :P
[09:29] <blank> it's installing, what is xcompmgr by the way?
[09:29] <Coweater> EpP: i did, and no answer is never an excuse to repeat
[09:29] <runedude> computer overload: http://209.8.234.57/moc.txt
[09:29] <frogzoo> EpP, there's no difference, except 90nm is newer tech, and .13um will run hotter - now stfu
[09:29] <SAM_theman> Totem could not play 'dvd:/'.
[09:29] <SAM_theman> The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?
[09:29] <arktis> it's an accelerated desktop app with bells and whistles like drop shadows
[09:29] <airmikey> i tried ,fbsetbg to change my wallpaper but doesnt work..is there a another program that i could try ?
[09:29] <scaine> EpP, about 80nm... it's more efficient cos there's less heat.  Why are you asking this on an Ubuntu forum?
[09:29] <arktis> it uses your gpu to draw the desktop
[09:29] <EpP> thx, frogzoo.
[09:30] <arktis> very unstable if you use the shadows!
[09:30] <frogzoo> :)
[09:30] <akurashy> solidgroove, does it give the choice to choose quality? 128, 256 etc etc?
[09:30] <tritium> EpP, subtraction sure is cool, huh?
[09:30] <vbgunz> Anyone here know of a desktop icon organizing program? I admit what ever handles it now doesn't exactly do a good job... Something that guarentees all the icons there own space would be nice, recommendations welcomed...
[09:30] <solidgroove> akurashy, grip does
[09:30] <scaine> tritium, ;-)
[09:30] <akurashy> kk getting it now
[09:30] <akurashy> thanks!
[09:30] <tritium> scaine, :)
[09:30] <EpP> tritium, i just wanted to know cuz the benchmarks for 0.13 are higher then 90nm
[09:31] <nekostar> ubotu, tell SAM_theman about restricted formats
[09:31] <solidgroove> in grip it says lame is in /usr/bin but it goes somewhere else when you make install
[09:31] <tritium> !cuz
[09:31] <ubotu> cuz is, like, not a word
[09:31] <evilfix> why is there a 30 second delay for any webpage i try to load, i know its not lag
[09:31] <vbgunz> !suck&blow
[09:31] <ubotu> vbgunz: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:31] <vbgunz> haha
[09:31] <WhiteRabbit> evilfix, about:config
[09:32] <WhiteRabbit> evilfix, disable network dns
[09:32] <vbgunz> ubotu is alright
[09:32] <ubotu> vbgunz: Not a clue
[09:32] <frogzoo> evilfix - cos your first mentioned dns host in /etc/resolv.conf is mia
[09:32] <tritium> !cos
[09:32] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, tritium
[09:32] <tritium> !cos
[09:32] <EasterSunshine> can someone recommend a batch file renaming utility?
[09:32] <runedude> anyone got an idea why im getting a response like this? http://209.8.234.57/moc.txt it made my computer overload, about 1000+ make recurvises running
[09:32] <roshan> evilfix: try opening about:config in firefox and set network.dns.disableipv6 to true
[09:33] <vbgunz> EasterSunshine: maybe just ask how to do what you need... Linux is a batch file naming utility I think :P
[09:33] <runedude> any takers?
[09:33] <vpnsctl> thrush, I'm here again
[09:33] <SAM_theman> thx
[09:34] <vbgunz> stepping away
[09:34] <vpnsctl> now using the ubuntu live cd
[09:34] <thrush> vpnsctl: is it broken yet? ;)
[09:34] <hedonick> EasterSunshine: mmv could be something... looked at it once, never used it though
[09:34] <EasterSunshine> vbgunz: i need to change the case on many filenames from title case to lower case, so i prefer something with some sort of graphical frontend because i don't want to learn shell scripting just for this
[09:34] <blank> im done installing xcompmgr, how may I run it
[09:34] <tritium> EasterSunshine, shell scripting is a rather powerful skill to develop
[09:35] <evilfix> set it to true doesnt make any difference, theres a 30 sec delay on anything having to do with the internet, now just firefox tho
[09:35] <vbgunz> EasterSunshine: you might not have to learn the world about scripting to do this... I am sure someone has an answer then maybe you can take it and twist once every day :)
[09:35] <blank> can anyone please help me on running xcompmgr
[09:35] <vpnsctl> thrush, I believe I didnt get that right. I should run grub on the boot menu, instead of here, or no?
[09:35] <vbgunz> brb
[09:35] <WhiteRabbit> evilfix, do you have a router?
[09:35] <evilfix> yes
[09:35] <thrush> vpnsctl: edited menu.lst yet?
[09:35] <WhiteRabbit> evilfix, I had this problem as the 2.6 kernel has a packet lag up with some routers
[09:36] <vpnsctl> thrush, yeah, but when I tried to run "grub" it is saying that it does not exist
[09:36] <WhiteRabbit> evilfix, I change my resolv.conf to hit my routers gateway
[09:36] <gupta> Safe programs to remove for speed. I already messed up twice trying this :cry:
[09:36] <frogzoo> evilfix, did you check /etc/resolv.conf?
[09:36] <thrush> vpnsctl: no everythin is after cd is loaded
[09:36] <evilfix> doing that now
[09:36] <WhiteRabbit> evilfix, the only nameserver I had was like  nameserver 192.168.1.1
[09:36] <thrush> vpnsctl: have to sudo
[09:36] <vpnsctl> thrush, I did
[09:36] <vpnsctl> thrush, sudo: grub: command not found
[09:36] <thrush> sudo grub did nothing?
[09:36] <ericz> has anyone ever used ubuntu to connect to there samsung phone?
[09:37] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, you want grub-install
[09:37] <makno> i can't even install buntu :|
[09:37] <evilfix> i have 3 name servers listed
[09:37] <makno> keep getting errorwith 5.10 nstall
[09:37] <frogzoo> evilfix, try pinging them in order
[09:37] <WhiteRabbit> evilfix, just put  nameserver 192.168.1.1 as the only one
[09:37] <thrush> vpnsctl: I have done that many times in Ubuntu
[09:38] <WhiteRabbit> evilfix, unless your router gateway Ip is different
[09:38] <frogzoo> evilfix, or do a dig www.yahoo.com and see what comes up
[09:38] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, there is not grub-install also
[09:38] <thrush> vpnsctl: I usually use knoppix for a livecd but it shouldnt make a diff
[09:38] <frogzoo> no way...
[09:38] <mcphail> makno: What type of error?
[09:38] <evilfix> yea actually it says 192.168.0.1 as the first one, router is 1.1
[09:38] <evilfix> that the problem?
[09:38] <thrush> heh
[09:39] <vpnsctl> thrush, would help if I chroot ?
[09:39] <WhiteRabbit> evilfix, for you to log into the router its 192.168.0.1  or 192.168.1.1?
[09:39] <makno> mcphail i paste in query
[09:39] <evilfix> 1.1
[09:39] <WhiteRabbit> evilfix, yep
[09:39] <jron> ok, so i've been working on getting my tv tuner working for 2 days now... the problem is i can't seem to figure out how i pass options to the module when it is loading... if i unload the module, then load the module with the syntax, modprobe bttv card=1 autoload=0 radio=0 tuner=2         it works fine, untill i reboot at least.... what is the deal here? =(
[09:39] <thrush> vpnsctl: you are in a terminal now?
[09:39] <vpnsctl> thrush, yes
[09:39] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, oh, look like /sbin isn't mounted
[09:39] <jron> i need to figure out the correct way to load bttv with the card=1 autoload=0 radio=0 tuner=2 options...
[09:40] <SAM_theman> brb
[09:40] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, I did chroot /mnt/hda3, and now I can use grub-install, what you think of it?
[09:40] <tritium> jron, that should be done in /etc/modules
[09:40] <mcphail> makno: don't /msg me please. Paste in pastebin and ask the audience
[09:40] <SAM_theman> never mind
[09:40] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, double check you're installing the mbr to hda, not hda1, and go for it
[09:40] <makno> ok
[09:40] <roshan> jron, put something like "options bttv card=x tuner=x" in a file called /etc/modprobe.d/bttv and run sudo update-modules
[09:41] <jron> tritium, what exactly would i add in /etc/modules... i seem to have tried everything...
[09:41] <WhiteRabbit> evilfix, I take it's fixed now?
[09:41] <evilfix> .... how do i make resolv.conf not real only
[09:41] <thirso> Does anyone else has firefox 1.5 installed? i cant get java to work on it
[09:41] <evilfix> heh
[09:41] <jron> roshan, i will look into that, thank you much
[09:41] <roshan> jron. I had the same problem
[09:41] <WhiteRabbit> evilfix, haha
[09:41] <makno> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4117
[09:41] <evilfix> lol yea i know
[09:41] <WhiteRabbit> evilfix, heres a new comer trick to make things easy
[09:42] <WhiteRabbit> evilfix, sudo nautilus
[09:42] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, how do I check that?
[09:42] <WhiteRabbit> evilfix, gui root access to the filesystem
[09:42] <tritium> WhiteRabbit, that not wise
[09:42] <tritium> s/not/is not
[09:42] <WhiteRabbit> tritium, sure it is
[09:42] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, "grub-install /dev/hda" from memory
[09:42] <tritium> WhiteRabbit, no, really, it's not
[09:43] <evilfix> ah nice thanks
[09:43] <evilfix> now do i gotta reboot
[09:43] <WhiteRabbit> tritium, well I'm guessing he is gonna do what I said instead of just stopping for your stupid politics
[09:43] <mcphail> makno: did you deselect perl in the installation process?
[09:43] <WhiteRabbit> evilfix, ok
[09:43] <makno> n
[09:43] <makno> no
[09:43] <tritium> WhiteRabbit, chill out.  No need to insult in here
[09:43] <WhiteRabbit> you just made my ignore list
[09:44] <tritium> you just made my ban list
[09:44] <frogzoo> evilfix, nope /etc/init.d/networking stop & start
[09:44] <nickrud> ouch
[09:45] <evilfix> works great now thanks WhiteRabbit and frogzoo
[09:45] <mcphail> makno: Sorry, I don't have a clue about this one. It may be one to ask on the forums.
[09:45] <frogzoo> :)
[09:45] <makno> thanks anyway mcphail
[09:45] <makno> anyone ese can help me?
[09:46] <bluefrog-10> how do you capitalize words in bash command line, pls?
[09:46] <airmikey> trying to get to gnome control panel through a terminal...any 1 know the command
[09:47] <scaine> airmikey, what do you mean, "get to" the panel?
[09:47] <_jason> airmikey:  gnome-control-center
[09:47] <blank> I wished I could install MSVC on ubuntu, at least for writing the code, I'd compile with G++ obviously
[09:47] <ecosse> hi folks sorry to burst in I have just installed a java package and can't for the life of me remember the command to update paths something like list-alternatives
[09:47] <airmikey> _jason: right on thx
[09:47] <Orunitia> How do I move the buttons around on window borders?
[09:47] <Orunitia> so the close button, etc. is on the left
[09:47] <_jason> airmikey:  I think that is the same as what is in ther preferences menu though
[09:48] <roshan> ecosse, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:48] <scaine> _jason, Yep - just checked it.  That's pretty cool.  Never knew that.
[09:49] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, hello there
[09:49] <_jason> scaine:  just do tab completion on "gnome-" and you'll see all the gnome stuff
[09:49] <ecosse> roshan, thanks
[09:49] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, how do I use grub-install?
[09:49] <scaine> Nice one.  Thanks _jason
[09:49] <airmikey> _jason:that worked thx...but once its open ...i click on any icon ..nothin opens ..any ideal
[09:49] <Epic|> Dang. Big channel
[09:49] <mcphail> blank: KDevelop is a reasonable alternative I suppose. There's alsp eclipse.
[09:49] <_jason> airmikey:  don't know, what are you trying to open?
[09:50] <airmikey> theme
[09:50] <blank> mcphail: I know, Im running eclipse right now but I cant seem to compile stuff, I dont know how
[09:50] <Delvien> If i take someones Super Karamba theme, mod it , and make it better, and its under GPLlicense, can i legally post it on KDE-look.org???
[09:50] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, you should just run it like so 'grub-install /dev/hda'
[09:50] <scaine> airmikey, double clicking opens my stuff okay from gnome-control-centre.  You getting any errors in your terminal?
[09:50] <knives> hi all
[09:51] <knives> anyone know where I can find gcc-3.2 deb?
[09:51] <Seveas> 3.2 is obsolete...
[09:51] <airmikey> ahh i was only clicking once...thx
[09:51] <blank> mcphail: Does kdevelop run under gnome?
[09:51] <airmikey> thx
[09:52] <mcphail> blank: I've only used eclipse for PalmOS apps on windows, so can't help you there. Try KDevelop for Qt apps. It does run under GNOME, but I don't think it has the same "look'n'feel"
[09:52] <knives> Seveas, I need it to compile something
[09:52] <mcphail> blank: or vim ;)
[09:52] <Seveas> knives, apt-get install build-essential
[09:52] <_jason> is there a command to tab-complete (so that i can pipe the output somewhere) ?
[09:53] <makno> anyone can please try to help me? i asted the log here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4117
[09:53] <blank> vim?
[09:53] <Delvien> If i take someones Super Karamba theme, mod it , and make it better, and its under GPLlicense, can i legally post it on KDE-look.org???
[09:53] <blank> I cant get eclipse to compile things :'(
[09:53] <blank> anyone know if there's an eclipse IRC channel
[09:53] <blank> make: *** No rule to make target `all'.
[09:53] <blank> that's the error i get
[09:53] <nickrud> makno, that is scary looking
[09:53] <_jason> blank:  have you tried #eclipse :P
[09:53] <blank> #eclipse?
[09:54] <mcphail> blank: you need a makefile
[09:54] <blank> I'm running eclipse right now
[09:54] <makno> the insallation allways fail
[09:54] <blank> ooo mcphail! :D can you tell me how to make a makefile please? I'm using G++
[09:54] <blank> or nevermind I'll see myself
[09:54] <knives> Seveas, its already up to date
[09:54] <Nogimics> -bash: make: command not found
[09:54] <Nogimics> Hey all, I tried just tried to install psyBNC and it failed when I tried the make menuconfig file. I get the above error
[09:54] <knives> Seveas, I can't compile winex with the new gcc =\
[09:54] <jrsims> Hola, ninos y ninas
[09:54] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, Is there a way to read the menu.lst in other place? i.e., read from some directory which is different from /boot/grub ?
[09:54] <Seveas> knives, then fix your code
[09:54] <knives> Seveas, so I wanted to try with gcc-3.2
[09:55] <Seveas> !tell jrsims about es
[09:55] <blank> how do you make the enye
[09:55] <blank> in spanish
[09:55] <blank> in windows it's ALT+164
[09:55] <knives> Seveas, It's not my code it's cedega's you know winex
[09:55] <blank> but that doesn't work in linux I guess
[09:55] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, just a sec...
[09:55] <Seveas> then use 3.4
[09:55] <mcphail> blank: eclipse may have an option to autogenerate makefiles. That wouldbe the simplest way for a non-trivial program
[09:55] <AnArKY87> hi
[09:55] <Seveas> 3.2 is obsolete
[09:55] <jrsims> Como?
[09:56] <knives> Seveas, do yo know how to do it without changing the code?
[09:56] <Seveas> then use 3.4 <---
[09:56] <Seveas> cedega compiles fine for me with that one
[09:56] <blank> mcphail, I think it does, but I cnat seem to find that option
[09:57] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, try 'grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/hda'
[09:57] <knives> Seveas, really? what did you do to not get the make wrc error?
[09:57] <Seveas> I used an install script
[09:57] <knives> an install script? which one?
[09:58] <Nogimics> Hi all, I just tried to install psyBNC, but when I get to the, "make menuconfig" command I get this error: "-bash: make: command not found". Can anyone help please?
[09:58] <mcphail> blank: when you start a new project, ask for a "managed make" project
[09:58] <AnArKY87> I try to install jdk, but in kubuntu breezy is installed gij, when I try to remove this package apt  wants to remove another package like open-office etc.....
[09:58] <frogzoo> Nogimics, means what it says, you need to install make
[09:58] <wezzer> Nogimics: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:58] <Nogimics> Thanks
[09:58] <AnArKY87> How can I risolve this problem??
[09:59] <knives> Seveas, an install script? which one?
[09:59] <Seveas> pfff, can't remember :)
[09:59] <blank> thanks mcphail
[09:59] <Seveas> some german forum iirc
[09:59] <Seveas> long time ago
[10:00] <gupta> hey, where are the network settings stored??
[10:00] <airmikey> any 1 running openbox wm ?
[10:00] <knives> Seveas, so it's the best to find the old gcc or what do you think?
[10:00] <gupta> for backup purposes
[10:00] <frogzoo> gupta, /etc/network/interfaces & /etc/resolv.conf
[10:00] <kyncani2> gupta: in /etc, like any system conf
[10:00] <gupta> thanks ppl
[10:00] <Seveas> knives, apt-get install gcc-3.4
[10:00] <Seveas> export CC=gcc-3.4
[10:01] <Seveas> ./configure; make; make install
[10:01] <makno> thanks for the fantastic support people is nice to be ignored this way
[10:01] <Aven> help
[10:01] <Aven> how do I start ProFTPD?
[10:01] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, allright, now reboot and see what will happen, see you soon
[10:01] <Aven> I get: ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd.
[10:01] <scaine> makno, What's the prob.  Just joined.
[10:02] <makno> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4117
[10:02] <makno> here is the log
[10:02] <blank> wow My system just crashed
[10:02] <blank> or did it
[10:02] <blank> eclipse is like...not responding, internal error
[10:02] <makno> i can't get itto instal
[10:02] <nickrud> AnArKY87, look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, the Java section.
[10:02] <AnArKY87> thanks nickrud
[10:02] <gupta> is it a good idea to backup entire /etc.. from a totally messed by system(like mine :p )?
[10:02] <scaine> What are you trying to install, makno?
[10:03] <nickrud> AnArKY87, you can have them both installed; just be sure to to the update-alternatives thing
[10:03] <makno> ubuntu 5.10
[10:03] <knives> Seveas, if 3.4 gives the same error?
[10:03] <makno> dowloaded the iso, burned the cd
[10:03] <nekostar> hey
[10:03] <makno> and that's the error i get
[10:03] <kyncani> gupta: always a good idea to have backup
[10:04] <frogzoo> makno, for starters, looks like you have no awk or perl - you probly need to install them
[10:04] <blank> how can I show my trash bin on my desktop
[10:04] <scaine> Ohmer, sheesh.  Sorry man - this log is beyond me.
[10:04] <nekostar> would anyone know of a extra's backports thing like mirrorplaner or whatever thats working atm?
[10:04] <wezzer> makno: are you upgrading from hoary/warty?
[10:04] <AnArKY87> ok
[10:04] <makno> frogzoo i have nothing on the box
[10:04] <scaine> frogzoo, Looks like Makno is installing from CD.  The installer should have that stuff already, yeah?
[10:04] <makno> wezzer nope
[10:04] <frogzoo> ah, i c
[10:04] <erUSUL> makno, have you checked the md5sum of the iso before burning?
[10:04] <blank> Okay, earlier I was talking about making windows overlap the bottom and top toolbars, someone told me to get xcompmgr and I did, but now what
[10:05] <makno> yes
[10:05] <Seveas> knives, then you need to find the install script ;)
[10:05] <makno> also checked the cd before installation and everything looks fine
[10:05] <SAM_theman> how do i clean my apt-get and synaptic caches
[10:05] <knives> Seveas, I have a good install script but the new compiler is just too strict
[10:05] <scaine> makno, you got enough space on the disk?  The cp errors seem to indicate a file problem during install...?
[10:06] <makno> is a 4gb disk
[10:06] <frogzoo> makno, well the io errors don't inspire confidence - maybe the CDs a dud?
[10:06] <Seveas> knives, then the code is wrong
[10:06] <makno> formatted during instalation
[10:06] <nickrud> SAM_theman, sudo apt-get clean
[10:06] <knives> Seveas, could be because its cvs?
[10:06] <Seveas> might be
[10:07] <scaine> All I can suggest, makno, is a surface scan.  Maybe the hard disk has a problem.  Or maybe, like frogzoo suggests, try another CD and burn the image again.
[10:07] <SAM_theman> thanks man i'll be back restarting my comp
[10:07] <runedude> hmm guys
[10:07] <makno> is the 3rd cd i try
[10:08] <makno> with 2 different burners
[10:08] <runedude> When trying to install my wireless tool, I get a problem with /usr/bin/ld -lqt.. says it cant find it
[10:08] <runedude> any ideas?
[10:08] <makno> and how can i do a surface scan?
[10:08] <gupta> kyncani, so should i just restore cakup up /etc to a fresh installation??
[10:08] <gupta> backup
[10:09] <scaine> Actually, makno, I'm not sure how to do a surface scan of a hard disk on Linux.  I only ever used scandisk on windows for this kind of thing.
[10:09] <erUSUL> runedude, install build-essentials
[10:09] <gupta> the forums are up :cheers:!!
[10:09] <runedude> erUSUL: ok
[10:09] <scaine> Guys, is there a checkdisk type utility included in the Ubuntu 5.10 install disk?
[10:09] <Xenguy> Hi - I'm running breezy, and for some reason wine conflicts with wine-doc -- anyone know why the would be?
[10:10] <mcphail> Xenguy: the docs might have been moved into the main package?
[10:10] <erUSUL> scaine, fsck -c marks bad sectors but the instaler should have done that...
[10:10] <knives> Seveas, I'm gonna try with 3.4
[10:11] <scaine> Anyone know when backports is going to open in Breezy?  There's a heap of stuff out of date now.  I had to manually install Rhythmbox the other day.
[10:11] <scaine> Thanks, erUSUL, it was for makno's query regarding his installation problem.
[10:11] <Xenguy> mcphail: dunno, I get a similar conflict for a wine setup tool called winesetuptk
[10:11] <tritium> scaine, "had" to?  heh, that seems a bit overstated
[10:11] <makno> erUSUL can i run it from the shell
[10:11] <runedude> erUSUL: whats the package name.. i cant find the package on packages.ubuntu.com
[10:11] <runedude> ?
[10:11] <Mez> scaine: It's going to be opened when it moves over to soyuz instead of kated
[10:12] <scaine> tritium, I "had" to have it man!  Had to!  I tells ya!
[10:12] <erUSUL> yes
[10:12] <tritium> heh
[10:12] <frogzoo> scaine - dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hda would do the job
[10:12] <scaine> :-)
[10:12] <Seveas> scaine, if you want bleeding edge that bad, you might like gentoo instead...
[10:12] <erUSUL> runedude, build-essential
[10:12] <runedude> ok
[10:12] <runedude> thanks
[10:12] <nickrud> scaine, were the bubbles pretty?
[10:13] <runedude> many thanks, erUSUL  :-)
[10:13] <scaine> C'mon Seveas, that's over the top, dude!  There's a ton of good stuff out there and it's nice to keep up to date.  Hell, that's what Backports is for!
[10:13] <makno> erUSUL i started the shell using the installation cc
[10:13] <makno> cd
[10:13] <scaine> nickrud, Bubbles?
[10:13] <makno> but fsck gives error
[10:13] <Potterwins> anybody here ever install wolfenstein enemy territory on ubuntu?
[10:14] <frogzoo> looks like makno's found the problem - bad disk
[10:14] <nickrud> I hear there're perty bubbles on mouse hover at places.
[10:14] <Potterwins> anybody?
[10:15] <makno> frogzoo u mean bad hd or bad cd?
[10:15] <frogzoo> makno, how many times have you tried the install?
[10:15] <erUSUL> makno, the option is r; fsck -t ext3 -r /dev/hdxx
[10:15] <Mez> scaine: backports will be online as soon as the new dev system goes in and then hopefully things will start being built
[10:15] <blank> how do I check if the ati drivers installed again
[10:15] <blank> vendor string or something
[10:15] <scaine> nickrud, Ah - yeah.  It minimises to the notification area now and if you hover the mouse over it's icon, it "bubbles" a notification with the current song.  It also bubbles on track change.  It's taken some criticism for that, but I like it.
[10:15] <makno> aout 5 now
[10:15] <frogzoo> blank, install fglrx
[10:15] <makno> downloaded the iso again
[10:16] <blank> install fglrx? i already did
[10:16] <makno> checked the md5sum of the iso
[10:16] <makno> and it was fine
[10:16] <tritium> !tell makno about enter
[10:16] <frogzoo> blank and change the driver from 'ati' to 'fglrx' in /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[10:16] <makno> burned the iso andchecked the cd before installation
[10:16] <nickrud> I do wake in a cold sweat some nights tho, wondering what I'm missing ;)
[10:16] <scaine> Mez, yeah, I've been hearing "pretty soon now" for a while.  It'd just be nice to have clear date in mind, so that numpty's like me don't go breaking their system by installing packages from Debian Marrilat in the meantime.
[10:16] <scaine> :-)
[10:16] <Mez> scaine
[10:16] <Mez> I'll quote you an email
[10:16] <blank> yay they worked
[10:17] <scaine> kay.
[10:17] <mcphail> scaine: use checkinstall for the time being
[10:17] <frogzoo> makno, what kind of HDD is this we're talking about? & how many times has the install failed?
[10:17] <shaohui> Does anybody use LVM?
[10:17] <scaine> mcphail, Not something I've come across.  I'll look into it.
[10:17] <makno> is a 4.3 quantum fireball
[10:17] <makno> the instal had failed about 6 times now
[10:17] <mcphail> scaine: it'll make a .deb from the source
[10:18] <frogzoo> makno, 4.3gb? that must be like 4 yrs old?!!
[10:18] <blank> man, when I move my window around it lags like crazy
[10:18] <blank> and I have a perfectly good computer
[10:18] <blank> Can anyone help me make a shortcut to a folder on my desktop
[10:18] <makno> this pc was barely used 1 hour a day
[10:18] <frogzoo> blank, now you need to reboot :)
[10:18] <picca> i remember having a 1GB quantum fireball about 4 or 5 years ago
[10:18] <blank> I just did frogzoo :) I just wanted to check if it worked right now
[10:18] <rem_> 4.3 gb -> ~1998
[10:19] <blank> can anyone help me make a shortcut to a folder on my desktop :( im using gnome
[10:19] <frogzoo> blank, run fgl_xgears & report the frame rate
[10:19] <picca> must have been longer thinking about it
[10:19] <picca> it was a fast hard disk however
[10:19] <blank> frogzoo, what's the command
[10:19] <frogzoo> blank, fgl_xgears
[10:19] <frogzoo> blank, fgl_glxgears
[10:20] <blank> jorge@blankpc:~$ fgl_xgears
[10:20] <blank> bash: fgl_xgears: command not found
[10:20] <blank> ah okay
[10:20] <blank> 2982 frames in 5.0 seconds = 596.400 FPS
[10:20] <blank> 3538 frames in 5.0 seconds = 707.600 FPS
[10:20] <GarthVader> HEY
[10:20] <GarthVader> guys
[10:20] <frogzoo> blank, congrats - 3d hw is working fine
[10:20] <scaine> Right.  Nice one mcphail.  I'll check it out for future apps.  Hopefully I'll be alright with the standard repositories though.
[10:20] <GarthVader> please click my SAMURI LINK
[10:20] <GarthVader> http://rpg.samuraiwar.org/page.php?x=9825510
[10:20] <GarthVader> http://rpg.samuraiwar.org/page.php?x=9825510
[10:20] <blank> really? is that okay for a 9800 pro?
[10:20] <shaohui> Does somebody use LVM?
[10:20] <GarthVader> its a game
[10:20] <blank> thanks frogzoo
[10:20] <GarthVader> where you can kill eachother
[10:20] <GarthVader> http://rpg.samuraiwar.org/page.php?x=9825510
[10:21] <GarthVader> any get points for links
[10:21] <GarthVader> http://rpg.samuraiwar.org/page.php?x=9825510
[10:21] <GarthVader> for fun.
[10:21] <apokryphos> now, spammers are just annoying :)
[10:21] <scaine> Although I did get tempted into the Rhythmbox update... some kind dude on the forums linked to a pre-made deb file.  It broke Ubuntu-desktop, but I just re-installed that aftewards.
[10:21] <EasterSunshine> thank you, tritium
[10:21] <blank> hey frogzoo, can you help me make a shortcut to a folder on my desktop
[10:21] <tritium> EasterSunshine, no problem
[10:21] <shwag> is there any app I can use to actually see a history of my clipboard...i keep losing stuff I want to cut and paste.
[10:22] <Nogimics> Anyone know what repository the curses library is in?
[10:22] <frogzoo> blank, I'm a gnome noob - I'd just do it from the command line
[10:22] <SPCcrow> What is a good digicam program for Ubuntu?
[10:22] <apokryphos> digiKam
[10:22] <blank> okay frogzoo
[10:22] <blank> go ahead
[10:22] <blank> er, can you show me
[10:22] <scaine> There's a clipboard app in KDE, shwag, but I don't know if Gnome has something similar, or if you can just use that one...
[10:22] <blank> oh nevermind i know what you mean lol
[10:22] <tritium> !enter
[10:23] <apokryphos> scaine: klipper -- I think it probably would work.
[10:23] <frogzoo> blank, right click folder - select make link - then drag link to wherever I guess
[10:23] <jrsims> I LIKE UBUNTU!
[10:23] <hawking> anyone who uses scilab here? I have installed scilab from repos and the symbols are corrupt.. is there a way to change this?
[10:23] <tenzin> I love ubuntu!
[10:23] <hawking> jrsims: you are not alone
[10:23] <newbuntu> is there a way to access the ubuntu gnome desktop from a windows pc? I tried tightvnc but it only gives me some sort of x-window with a terminal and nothing else, but not the gnome desktop
[10:23] <blank> thanks frogzoo im stupid to not think of that
[10:23] <kbrooks> ubuntu "just works" (tm)
[10:23] <apokryphos> good time to note of #ubuntu-love ;-)
[10:23] <frogzoo> np ;)
[10:24] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, welcome back - how'd you do?
[10:24] <mcphail> blank: right click the folder, select "Make Link" and drag the link to your desktop
[10:24] <jrsims> anyone here using irssi?
[10:24] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, not very well
[10:24] <blank> thanks mcphail, frogzoo told me :)
[10:24] <jesse_> jrsims: i am
[10:25] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, got a kernel panic
[10:25] <scaine> shwag, dunno if you caught apokryphos' reply : the app is called klipper.  Good luck...
[10:25] <mcphail> blank: slow typing!
[10:25] <jrsims> jesse_ how do I switch windows?
[10:25] <blank> mcphail: remember when you told me to get xcompmgr?
[10:25] <blank> or was that someone else
[10:25] <roshan> newbuntu, did you go to System > Preferences > Remote Desktop and share it?
[10:25] <jesse_> jrsims: use alt+number
[10:25] <mcphail> blank: that wasn't me
[10:25] <blank> when I said I wanted my windows to overlap the toolbars
[10:25] <blank> :(
[10:25] <jrsims> ah. great.
[10:25] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, that's pretty typical for when you get the paths pointing to the wrong places
[10:25] <blank> I want my windows to overlap the toolbars wen they're in fullscreen
[10:25] <jesse_> jrsims: for numbers over ten, use q for 11, w for 12, and so on
[10:25] <blank> in other words, I dont want my tool bars 'always on top'
[10:25] <newbuntu> roshan: yes but that wont let me access it over the internet, right? I though that was only for local users
[10:26] <jrsims> cool. This is my first day on irssi. love it!
[10:26] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, don't know what I did wrong. Where do you believe is the problem? in the menu.lst I wrote?
[10:26] <jesse_> jrsims: also, ctrl+n is for next window, and ctrl+p is for previous
[10:26] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, yep
[10:26] <jrsims> ok cool
[10:26] <jesse_> jrsims: i know, i enjoy it too
[10:26] <jesse_> best part is nick complettion
[10:26] <makno> frogzoo is there anything alse i can do?
[10:26] <roshan> newbuntu, try installing openssh-server on your box. Then you have to forward some ports in PuTTY and you get an encrypted VNC session
[10:26] <jesse_> jrsims: type je, then hit tab
[10:26] <jrsims> jesse_:
[10:26] <scaine> newbuntu, as roshan says, you just configure that app, then download VNCviewer on your Windows PC.  Good to go.  It's what I use at work.  I'm about to try UltraVNC too - http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/install/viewerconfig.html.  Good luck.
[10:26] <jrsims> nice
[10:27] <jesse_> yep
[10:27] <makno> to check the hd maybe download something using the shell
[10:27] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, also, sometimes you need to set a line for init - maybe put one in, can't hurt
[10:27] <jesse_> good luck, youll never go back to XChat
[10:27] <newbuntu> roshan I already have an ssh connection, but I want to remotely access the desktop :)
[10:27] <jrsims> nope! agreed.
[10:27] <frogzoo> makno, maybe try a different HDD?
[10:27] <newbuntu> thanks scaine will try that
[10:27] <jesse_> adios must eat
[10:27] <_native_> hydrogen is so slow, audio techs work in real time and cannot putup with this *ish
[10:27] <jrsims> peace
[10:27] <makno> eh is the only one i have
[10:27] <makno> but i'm sure it works
[10:27] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, basically I put: title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-686-smp ---- root            (hd0,2) --- kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-686-smp root=/dev/hda3 ro "ht=on" quiet splash ---- initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-686-smp ---- savedefault ---- boot
[10:27] <tritium> vpnsctl, don't paste
[10:28] <vpnsctl> tritium, sorry
[10:28] <tritium> ah, well, it wasn't too long ;)
[10:28] <sertmann> my sound is not working, it was working before - like every 2nd time i booted up, then i removed the onboard from bios thinking there might me a conflict, edit my asound.conf and now i don't get any sound at all (breezy, Creative SBLive!)
[10:28] <roshan> newbuntu, http://martybugs.net/smoothwall/puttyvnc.cgi I've done this myself
[10:28] <scaine> No worries.  It does work for me, but I do use a VPN, so I don't have any NAT issues.  Are you going to be running this over the internet.  If so, you'll have a few security concerns, I reckon.
[10:28] <sertmann> anyone care to help?
[10:28] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, is your root on hda2 ?
[10:29] <_native_> are their any kernel patches provided by ubuntu for real-time audio?
[10:29] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, in hda3
[10:29] <roshan> newbuntu, you have to forward port 5900 to 127.0.0.1:5900. Then tell TightVNC to connect to 127.0.0.1:0
[10:29] <scaine> Mez - thanks for the mplayer tip.  Think I have that installed already... but when I try to access wmv on the net, it doesn't work.  Check out http://www.bailliegifford.com/cam.asp to see what I mean.  I don't think wmv will ever be supported over the web though, and really its not a big deal...
[10:29] <crimsun> _native_: none that are applied by default
[10:29] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, right - try (hd1,2) in both places
[10:29] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, ok!
[10:30] <_native_> are they in the repos?
[10:30] <crimsun> !info realtime-lsm-source
[10:30] <ubotu> realtime-lsm-source: (Source for the realtime Linux security module), section universe/base, is optional. Version: 0.1.1-6 (breezy), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[10:30] <sertmann> infact the sb card doesn't even show up anywhere now
[10:31] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, oh god, ... , see what happened when I tried to grub-install /dev/hda : /dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[10:31] <_native_> cause hydrogen is only workable when you 1: stop playback and 2: make your changes 3: restart playback, and that is just not how audio production works.
[10:31] <thrush> muahahaha!
[10:31] <newbuntu> yeah that's nice roshan, but my problem is not to access vnc over ssh but to share my gnome desktop :(
[10:32] <scaine> Is there any way to turn off join/leave notification in X-Chat.  It's driving me nuts!
[10:32] <igod> hi all
[10:32] <igod> any one could help me with an grub error?
[10:32] <sambagirl> i was wondering, can ubuntu read usb memory sticks? like 2.0 version, like memorex memory usb thingy?
[10:32] <_native_> lsm?
[10:32] <doug_> greetings
[10:32] <_native_> security? huh
[10:32] <apokryphos> sambagirl: of course
[10:32] <newbuntu> but it works now
[10:32] <mcphail> sambagirl: yes
[10:32] <ompaul> scaine, not that I know of
[10:32] <sambagirl> ok thanks
[10:32] <sambagirl> ofcourse he telling me ;)
[10:32] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, is the drive recognised in the bios?
[10:33] <sambagirl> jaja
[10:33] <_native_> what does he lsm have to do with audio?
[10:33] <sambagirl> ofcourse
[10:33] <roshan> newbuntu, Going to System > Preferences > Remote Desktop and sharing it starts a new VNC server at display 0, which you can access over SSH
[10:33] <emmi> Hello
[10:33] <scaine> ompaul, Ach, it was worth a try.  :-)
[10:33] <ompaul> igod, tell us all what the error is and then maybe
[10:33] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, it should be, I just mounted the hda3 here
[10:33] <newbuntu> roshan: but why do I need ssh for it? I thought it was encrypted already
[10:33] <Sanne> _native_: this may be helpful: http://tapas.affenbande.org/?page_id=3
[10:33] <frogzoo> sambagirl, mostly yes, but not any that need their own drivers
[10:33] <ompaul> scaine, at this stage my brain filters out brown and green in irc
[10:33] <emmi> How could I download music if xMule doesn't work?
[10:33] <sambagirl> ok i just stick it in usb port i shoujld now be able to just go to it and copy, no?
[10:33] <roshan> newbuntu, VNC is quite insecure
[10:33] <frogzoo> sambagirl, that's the plan
[10:34] <scaine> Just needs time, then, eh, ompaul?  Great.  I can't wait... :-)
[10:34] <sambagirl> ok i go check
[10:34] <Sanne> _native_: and especially: http://tapas.affenbande.org/?page_id=22
[10:34] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, and yet, I've done this a minute ago
[10:34] <roshan> newbuntu, I think it sends everything (including passwords) in the clear
[10:34] <sambagirl> wow it's on the desktop lol ;D
[10:34] <sambagirl> amazing
[10:34] <dhjohnson> how do i kill a user session?
[10:34] <sambagirl> thanks!!
[10:34] <newbuntu> hmm ok roshan, will look at that link
[10:34] <scaine> roshan, newbuntu, you might want to check out this link, where there's a detailed guide on using VNC securely :  http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BreezyCust
[10:34] <newbuntu> maybe I can figure it out
[10:35] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, sheesh...
[10:35] <emmi> ...?
[10:35] <igod> ompaul, I install spalshy on my computer and add vga=792 to grub like: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-686-smp root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet vga=792
[10:35] <trans_err> how can I change my dpi in gnome? I know you can add -dpi 75 to kdmrc, but how do I do it for gdm?
[10:35] <roshan> thanks, scaine, will see
[10:35] <_native_> thnx
[10:35] <tritium> igod, you can't do both (vga=792, and have usplash)
[10:35] <ompaul> igod, I know nothing of splashy
[10:36] <igod> but when I choose this options I obtain this errror you pass an undefined mode number
[10:36] <sambagirl> ubuntu makes windows look foolish :D
[10:36] <sambagirl> lol
[10:36] <xandor> what package do I need to install to play mp3 files and such in Juk and Amarok and so on?
[10:36] <ompaul> igod, see what tritium said
[10:36] <_native_> windows is foolish
[10:36] <_native_> :-)
[10:36] <scaine> roshan, newbuntu : just to say, I think this guy's guide gives you a "new login" type desktop.  The way I use VNC, I actually take control of screen 0.  Anyway, good luck with it.  Always helps when you know it's possible (although it does make it more frustrating if you still can't get it to work... :-))
[10:36] <sambagirl> i know
[10:36] <puff> Is there a way I can download all the apt packages necessary for upgrading to breezy, without actually upgrading?
[10:36] <emmi> How could I download music if xMule doesn't work?
[10:37] <igod> tritium, but when I installed splashy apt-get remove usplash ( I think)
[10:37] <shwag> scaine, hmm...klipper, okay.
[10:37] <_native_> sambagirl, nice nick ;-] 
[10:37] <puff> I want to kick off the download and then come back in a few hours to actually upgrade.
[10:37] <tritium> igod, I'm not familiar with splashy
[10:37] <crimsun> tritium: look at the command= directive of [server-Standard]  in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[10:37] <sambagirl> grazie visit my riojams.com for samba 24/7 in 2 weeks!
[10:37] <crimsun> err, sorry tritium
[10:37] <neuro|laptop> xandor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:37] <dhjohnson> how does one end another users session?
[10:37] <crimsun> trans_err: look at the command= directive of [server-Standard]  in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[10:37] <ompaul> _native_, sambagirl head into #ubuntu-offtopic for that subject - this is a support channel the other is to indulge the verbosity of your typing abilities
[10:37] <puff> -download-only, maybe?
[10:37] <python> anyone installed streamtuner, what a great piece of software
[10:38] <xandor> neuro|laptop Thanks.
[10:38] <Sanne> puff: look in man apt-get, I believe there is some option for that
[10:38] <emmi> Argh?
[10:38] <Myrtti> what
[10:38] <trans_err> crimsun: I did that and I don't see any difference
[10:38] <emmi> no one answers :-D
[10:38] <_native_> same to you hipocrit
[10:38] <Sanne> puff: yes, --download-only, that's what I meant (no idea how/if it works, though)
[10:39] <crimsun> trans_err: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log tell you is being used for DPI?
[10:39] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, looks like I got it wrong - it should be (hd0,2) afterall
[10:39] <Myrtti> try another emule/edonkey clone?
[10:39] <roshan> scaine: that's the same thing I do. What I wanted to say was that VNC is too insecure to use over the public Internet w/o SSH
[10:39] <emmi> Umm. Yes yes.
[10:39] <emmi> Thanks..
[10:39] <python> anyone who like there music, i recommend you apt-get dreamtuner
[10:39] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, maybe fix up the menu.lst & try again
[10:40] <python> sorry streamtuner
[10:40] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, didnt fix
[10:40] <scaine> roshan, Aye - you're absolutely right.  I agree totally.  Didn't mean to jump in on you there, but I thought that guys guide was pretty useful.
[10:40] <puff> Hk, woul
[10:40] <trans_err> crimsun: what string am I looking for?
[10:40] <neuro|laptop> dreamtuner, nice name for an app tho :)
[10:40] <emmi> Anyone from Fi? :-)
[10:40] <puff> Hm, it would be cool to have a version of apt that used bittorrent for the downloads.
[10:40] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, I tried a different thing. I apt-got grub for this ubuntu live. and when I did grub-install I got this: /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[10:40] <thrush> python: might play arount with streamripper too some recording functionality for streamtuner I believe
[10:40] <trans_err> crimsun: (--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (86, 84)
[10:40] <kdude> can somebody help me get my sound card to play MIDI files? Thanks.
[10:40] <robertj^> Does Network Manager in dapper mean GUI WEP Config
[10:41] <Myrtti> emmi: _o/
[10:41] <python> there is some recording thing but havent played with it, just intigued by all the stations u have access to all built into a piece of software its neat
[10:41] <_native_> wep config is supported thru the net manager in breezy.
[10:41] <emmi> Aa, kiva.
[10:41] <neuro|laptop> tis, i was playing with wep config the other day
[10:41] <neuro|laptop> does it seamlessly
[10:41] <bash> robertj^ : netapplet ?
[10:42] <frogzoo> vpnsctl, /dev/mapper/casper/snapshot - ??? wtf?
[10:42] <Myrtti> #ubuntu-fi for Finnish chat about ubuntu
[10:42] <python> Ubuntu rocks, this is just the beggining i can see Ubuntu making bifg strides in Linux
[10:42] <emmi> Yes?
[10:42] <robertj^> bash: I'm confused is it network manager now and netapplet in dapper
[10:42] <robertj^> I'm on my iBook right now because my wife has my other laptop ;)
[10:42] <python> to be honest im finding it hard to find any major bugs on breezy
[10:43] <robertj^> python: depends on what you refer to as major ;)
[10:43] <python> i mean big issues
[10:43] <bash> robertj^, use network manager to config the wep.
[10:43] <python> things not working
[10:43] <_native_> python, ive found plenty.
[10:43] <robertj^> bahh, I'm backwords, WPA not WEB
[10:43] <roshan> newbuntu, scaine: you're right. The tunnelling over SSH thing is somewhat complicated. I'm not at the box where I set it up so I don't have details. AFAIK you need to tunnel 127.0.0.1:5900 to remote 5900
[10:43] <python> such as....
[10:43] <colen> what bugs have you found?
[10:44] <robertj^> bash, sorry WPA
[10:44] <bash> netapplet is only a applet from gnone panel.
[10:44] <blank> is there a thing where i can test to see if i have sound
[10:44] <bash> robertj^, uhm.
[10:44] <python> yes there is blankl
[10:44] <robertj^> I got wpa_supplicant to work but it's still a bit shaky I think
[10:44] <Potterwins> anybody ever get 4 speakers to work with a sound blaster live! card in ubuntu?
[10:44] <Pyrocuror> can anyone tell me what I need to do to tell Ubuntu to activate connection eth2 during startup?  During the install I told it to use eth1, but now I would like to change that.
[10:44] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, I'll reboot and see if something goes different
[10:44] <nickrud> blank, system-preferences-multimedia selector has test buttons
[10:45] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, brb
[10:45] <dhjohnson> how does one end an ssh session that failed to log out properly?
[10:45] <scaine> Yep, that sounds about right roshan.  I'm pretty lucky that I just get to use internal ip structure... the VPN box I use (a Draytek vigour) handles the security elements for me.
[10:45] <colen> does anyone know if I install a second sound card in a system, if both the new sound card aswell as the onboard sound work?
[10:45] <frogzoo> dhjohnson, kill -9 ?
[10:45] <bash> it realy nesesary use a gui program robertj^?
[10:45] <python> blank goto Applications>System Tools>Ubuntu Device Database
[10:45] <dhjohnson> frogzoo, let me check that out
[10:46] <robertj^> bash: no, but is wpa_supplicant even in main?
[10:46] <crimsun> robertj^: no, it's not.
[10:46] <roshan> scaine: I dream about that kind of network infrastructure :-)
[10:46] <robertj^> bash, so yeah, that's just a some suckage there
[10:46] <roshan> scaine: I'm 16 and my experience is limited to my home network
[10:47] <robertj^> isn't wap the most widly used encryption standard for wireless that's not trivial to break?
[10:47] <scaine> colen, I have an onboard, an audigy and a USB handset - they're all working okay in Breezy.  I do get the odd conflict between oss and alsa when I use cedega, but that's quite easily fixed.
[10:47] <neuro|laptop> wap not trivial to break?
[10:47] <frogzoo> Pyrocuror, man interfaces
[10:47] <blank> when I go to test video
[10:47] <blank> it says
[10:47] <blank> Is your video display hardware working properly?Detected settings: impossible with fglrx
[10:47] <blank> but I've tried the gears demo and all and it works...
[10:47] <shwag> Gnome Clipboard Manager - http://gcm.sourceforge.net/
[10:47] <scaine> I've been doing internet vpns for about 6 years now, roshan.  They're an absolute pain to set up, even with market leaders Checkpoint, but once they're in, they make a real difference...
[10:48] <shwag> dont see any ubuntu packages for it though.
[10:48] <neuro|laptop> scaine: i used to work for smoothwall, i know what you mean :)
[10:48] <_native_> nero|laptop you need to capture enough IV's to crack wep.
[10:48] <neuro|laptop> if we could crack *easy* pptp config in ubuntu tho ... holy grail ;)
[10:48] <blank> I'd like my windows to be able to overlap the toolbars, can anyone help?
[10:48] <_native_> wpa however is crackable thru dictionary attack
[10:49] <crimsun> trans_err: the "nvidia" driver has some crack to determine and set it itself
[10:49] <roshan> scaine: Thanks for warning me. I've been trying to set up OpenVPN between home and school
[10:49] <scaine> neuro|laptop, I never used smoothwall, but I understand it's getter bigger.  Checkpoint, Sonic and Watchguard were the main ones I've come across.  I've even seen a few masochists try to use a Microsoft ISA server to set up over PPTP... yikes!
[10:49] <blank> where can I choose how big I want my icons to be?
[10:50] <neuro|laptop> scaine: hehe
[10:50] <trans_err> does anyone know where I can force X to start with a certian DPI-- it seems as if NVIDIA calculates its own and won't change
[10:50] <scaine> And pix.  Cisco is getting better too.  There's even talk of a half-decent gui to their VPN stuff on the new 2800 series routers.  I'll believe it when I see it!
[10:50] <neuro|laptop> hehe
[10:50] <kdude> can somebody help me get my sound card to play #MIDI files? Thanks.
[10:50] <colen> scaine: thank you.  I would like to use both sound cards, but I have not yet got me new one yet so I'll have to wait and see how it works.
[10:50] <neuro|laptop> we run our office VPNs through a couple of 1712s, just works
[10:50] <theine> Is there a way of manipulating the partition table so that the `Partition n does not end on cylinder boundary' complains in fdisk go away?
[10:51] <neuro|laptop> we almost cracked getting breezy to work with it, but just ran out of fiddle time
[10:51] <scaine> colen, I'm not sure how you can use both together, unless you intend to configure some apps to use oss and others to use alsa.  I guess it depends on the app.  What's your idea for two cards?
[10:51] <xandor> neuro|laptop I Just wanted to say thanks, I've been trying for months to get my sound to fully function.
[10:52] <neuro|laptop> xandor: hey, no worries
[10:52] <crimsun> kdude: are snd_seq and snd_seq_oss loaded? If your sound card does not have hardware midi, you'll need to use timidity or fluidsynth, etc.
[10:52] <neuro|laptop> in future, just check the wiki
[10:52] <xandor> Will do.
[10:52] <crimsun> kdude: please follow the hints on alsa.opensrc.org for midi
[10:52] <xandor> See ya later, thanks again.
[10:52] <Zeep> Can anybody help? I'm trying to reinstall grub via the rescue mode - root is mounted, but I always get the error message "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly"
[10:52] <kdude> crimsun: thanks.
[10:52] <Zeep> What shall I do?
[10:53] <crimsun> Zeep: you can't just mount /, you need to chroot to it, too
[10:53] <kdude> crimsun: snd_seq** are all loaded. I will checkout that alsa site. thanks.
[10:54] <klunka> G'day.  My updates are not working.  Are the servers down?
[10:54] <Zeep> crimsun: The root-filesystem is mounted as / - I'm using the rescue system
[10:54] <crimsun> Zeep: so you're executing grub-install?
[10:56] <Zeep> crimsun: Yep, "grub-install /dev/hda"
[10:56] <kip__> I got some synaptic errors when upgrading to breezy. Is there anyone here that can help me fix them?
[10:56] <Potterwins> are there any major differences to running gnome as opposed to kde?
[10:56] <mnault> how do I enable hardware acceleration
[10:56] <Potterwins> anyone have an opinion?
[10:56] <crimsun> Zeep: is /boot/grub/stage1 valid?
[10:56] <newbuntu> can I change the default port to something else than 5900 for the ubuntu vnc server?
[10:56] <nickrud> night and day Potterwins, day and night ;)
[10:56] <blank> is there an aptget package for limewire
[10:56] <scaine> Potterwins, Gnome doesn't support as much customisation as KDE, but I prefer it for the way it looks.  Just awesome, compared to KDE.
[10:56] <crimsun> blank: not in the official repos, no
[10:56] <blank> you know any other repos taht has it?
[10:56] <Zeep> crimsun: less does display the file as being binary, but it has content
[10:56] <Potterwins> so what advantages or disadvantages .... i'm running gnome
[10:57] <theine> blank, you could probably use the one from http://debian-unofficial.org/
[10:57] <nickrud> blank, take a look at gtk-gnutella, it's in the repos and uses the same p2p network
[10:57] <Zeep> Potterwins: It's more a matter of taste, I'd say (I prefer KDE, BTW)
[10:57] <Potterwins> and can kde programs be run while using gnome if you use terminal
[10:57] <scaine> Only thing I miss in Gnome is window memory, which is easy in KDE.  You have to use a crappy command-line called Devilspie in Gnome, which I've never been bothered to use.
[10:57] <neuro|laptop> kde apps can run just fine under gnome
[10:57] <Potterwins> or are all gui programs defined by the desktop?
[10:58] <thrush> Potterwins: if u apt-get them they will run fine
[10:58] <blank> thanks
[10:58] <Zeep> crimsun: Is it possible to restore this file?
[10:58] <neuro|laptop> install one using apt-get or synaptic and it should pick up the kde libs automagically
[10:58] <scaine> Potterwins, how do you mean?
[10:58] <mnault> how do I enable hardware acceleration
[10:58] <apokryphos> Potterwins: typical ones: kde more applications/developers/users, more configurability and customizability, C++ and Qt.
[10:58] <akurashy> how do i know how many people in ssh are logged in in a server?
[10:58] <Potterwins> well i notice some programs say they are for kde
[10:58] <blank> is it possible to uinstall packages installed with synaptic through synaptic?
[10:58] <Potterwins> other for gnome
[10:58] <neuro|laptop> akurashy: w or finger
[10:58] <neuro|laptop> blank: of course
[10:58] <ptlo> Potterwins, if you have kde program, you can put a lanucher for it in eg panel (or anywhere, really), and start it just as any other program. and vice versa, you can do that for gnome programs in kde
[10:58] <akurashy> neuro|laptop: in terminal i type that?
[10:58] <Potterwins> k
[10:58] <neuro|laptop> akurashy: yeah
[10:58] <scaine> Potterwins, I think that mostly means how it looks.  I use K3b in Gnome for DVD/CD burning.  Never had a problem with it.
[10:58] <akurashy> kk
[10:58] <crimsun> Zeep: GRUB must be choking on something else.
[10:58] <akurashy> thanks
[10:58] <ptlo> Potterwins, gnome and kde are just two gui environments with a bit different philosophy, and look and feel. both have many great programs
[10:59] <blank> does anyone know if AA uses OpenGL?
[10:59] <blank> (americas army)
[10:59] <mnault> how do I enable hardware acceleration
[10:59] <ptlo> Potterwins, i personally stick with gnome, but it's a subjective choice (i preffer its look&feel)
[10:59] <crimsun> blank: yes, it does.
[10:59] <Potterwins> so far i think gnome is great
[10:59] <Potterwins> but i haven't tried kde yet
[10:59] <minnie> Is it possible install both KDE and Gnome and choose between them on boot?
[10:59] <neuro|laptop> Potterwins: have a browse through this lot: http://www.google.com/search?q=gnome+vs+kde
[10:59] <Potterwins> is it easy to switch from one to the other?
[10:59] <crimsun> Zeep: can you get an strace?
[11:00] <kip__> How do I fix this: Unpacking libopenh323-1.15.3c2
[11:00] <kip__> (from .../libopenh323-1.5.3c2_1.15.6-1_i386.deb ...
[11:00] <kip__> dpkg: error
[11:00] <kip__> processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libopenh323-1.5.3c2_1.15.6-1_i386.deb
[11:00] <kip__> (--unpack)
[11:00] <kip__> trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libopenh323.so.1', which is also in
[11:00] <kip__> package libopenh323-1.13.2
[11:00] <nickrud> minnie, you can choose at login, no reboot needed
[11:00] <scaine> mnault, This usually depends on whether you're ATI or Nvidia.  You're probably better off googling this kind of thing though - there's loadsa good guides on hardware acceleration...
[11:00] <Zeep> crimsun: what do you mean with "strace"? (btw, thank you for your help :-)
[11:00] <mnault> Ati
[11:00] <apokryphos> kip__: read the /topic; please do not paste in here
[11:00] <crimsun> Zeep: strace -o foo.txt -F grub-install /dev/hda
[11:00] <neuro|laptop> mnault: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:00] <mnault> thanks
[11:00] <Potterwins> so how easy is it to switch from one to the other
[11:00] <minnie> So I'm running gnome...if I installed KDE would it automatically ask me on login?
[11:01] <akurashy> how do i do, Broadcast Message in terminal?
[11:01] <scaine> minnie,  I did this with Hoary, when I was trying to decide which one to use.  The only problem I had was a few menu items get duplicated.
[11:01] <thrush> Potterwins: if u have the hd space sudo apt-get install kubuntu-deskop, then at login screen u can choose which by clicking on the sessions button
[11:01] <neuro|laptop> akurashy: wall
[11:01] <neuro|laptop> akurashy: type message then press CTRL+D
[11:01] <nickrud> minnie, no, there's a session button you choose with
[11:01] <akurashy> neuro|laptop: thanks again :)
[11:01] <thrush> Potterwins: btw kde sucks ;-)
[11:01] <neuro|laptop> uh oh
[11:01] <kip__> kip does not know what he is doing sorry.
[11:01] <Potterwins> how much space would kde take if i downloaded it?
[11:01] <neuro|laptop> wm wars!
[11:01] <nickrud> ditto, thrush
[11:01] <apokryphos> thrush: go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:01] <minnie> ahhh.okie
[11:01] <apokryphos> you too
[11:01] <nickrud> ok
[11:02] <Aven> hello
[11:02] <Aven> how do I get the Hoary package?
[11:02] <apokryphos> of?
[11:02] <Aven> what lines would I have to add?
[11:02] <neuro|laptop> ah, breezy constantly impresses
[11:02] <apokryphos> !tell Aven about sources
[11:02] <neuro|laptop> i installed 686-smp kernel, it automatically puts it as priority in grub config
[11:02] <scaine> I'm not sure how much space KDE takes.  But once it's down, you just choose "log off" from Gnome, then you click on "session" and choose KDE.
[11:02] <emmi> Hello all
[11:03] <Aven> Ah thanks
[11:03] <apokryphos> couple of hundred megs for kde, or so
[11:03] <scaine> You'll have a minor issue that when you shut down KDE, you can't choose "restart" or "shut down", cos you're still using GDM, not KDM, but that's minor.
[11:03] <Potterwins> do you use both?
[11:03] <Potterwins> why?
[11:03] <thrush> Potterwins: most people prefer one or the other, I dont really use either
[11:03] <crimsun> because he can?
[11:04] <Zeep> crimsun: the output file does contain many PROT_READ and PROT_WRITE -entries - altough the filesystem is mounted rw?
[11:04] <Potterwins> lol
[11:04] <apokryphos> Potterwins: GTK has some applications that I prefer to the kde-equivalent
[11:04] <Potterwins> i c
[11:04] <scaine> I use Gnome.  I did the whole KDM vrs Gnome thing in Ubuntu Hoary and came down on the Gnome side.
[11:04] <mnault> how do I enable hardware acceleration on breezy badger with a ati vid card?
[11:04] <apokryphos> Potterwins: and.. why would I want to restrict my options? =)
[11:04] <Zeep> crimsun: And grub does try to access /etc/ld.so.nohwcap, a file that doesn't exist
[11:04] <Chousuke> mnault: 9250 or older?
[11:04] <blabliblabla> Hi
[11:04] <Potterwins> well linux certainly does appear to be about options
[11:04] <Zeep> crimsun: I'm trying to create the file with "touch"
[11:04] <mnault> 8500dv
[11:04] <crimsun> Zeep: nonissues. Please bzip2 it and post it on the Web.
[11:04] <apokryphos> Potterwins: indeed
[11:05] <Chousuke> mnault: should be working per default. :/
[11:05] <mnault> no
[11:05] <kip__> How do I fix the error in synaptic where it won't overwrite libopenh323.so.1?
[11:05] <Potterwins> i've switched over from windows about 2 or 3 weeks ago..... and now i hate having to reboot into windows
[11:05] <Chousuke> with just proper X.org drivers selected and DRI enabled
[11:05] <blabliblabla> Did someone have trouble with installing mysql-server on breezy ?
[11:05] <neuro|laptop> the whole concept of dual boot irritates me
[11:05] <Chousuke> At least you don't need the binary drivers.
[11:05] <Potterwins> well
[11:05] <Zeep> crimsun: I am unable to copy the file from the other system. that's the problem ;-)
[11:05] <emmi> blabliblabla, nice nick. :-D
[11:05] <neuro|laptop> you always end up wanting to use an app in the other operating system
[11:05] <Potterwins> for us complete newbies
[11:05] <roshan> newbuntu, I don't think that's possible, at least with vino. AFAIK 5900+display is standard for VNC. Also, you might be interested in "zebedee" from universe
[11:05] <Potterwins> its a viable option
[11:05] <neuro|laptop> Potterwins: not getting at you, honest :)
[11:06] <blabliblabla> emmi : thx
[11:06] <neuro|laptop> just a personal observation
[11:06] <Potterwins> no worries
[11:06] <scaine> Potterwins, while you're on the subject, you could also check out Fluxbox and Enlightment.  Frankly (and I don't want to flame anyone here) I felt they were both a little underpowered.  Slightly geeky too.  Gnome and KDE are just so much more polished.  E17 (latest Enlightment) looks kinda good though.
[11:06] <Potterwins> no offence taken
[11:06] <Potterwins> i'd prefer to use only linux
[11:06] <Potterwins> but i am a complete newbie
[11:06] <neuro|laptop> fluxbox is *very* nice to use on older kit
[11:06] <neuro|laptop> very clean, very minimalist
[11:06] <Potterwins> and at this point..... i have a ways to go before i can be completely windows free
[11:06] <Niomi> what is the apt-get for fluxbox and/or enlightenment?
[11:06] <Chousuke> scaine: fluxbox is not comparable to KDE or gnome
[11:06] <Potterwins> to be windows free is my goal
[11:06] <scaine> neuro|laptop, True.  Fluxbox is a lightweight gui.  Horses for courses, really.
[11:06] <tritium> Potterwins, did you catch the snitch?
[11:07] <neuro|laptop> scaine: totally
[11:07] <thrush> scaine: fluxbox is not geeky! it only took me 18 hrs to get it just right this time
[11:07] <emmi> bla indeed.
[11:07] <Chousuke> you can use fluxbox as KDE or Gnome's window manager. :D
[11:07] <neuro|laptop> hmf
[11:07] <emmi> *blah
[11:07] <scaine> Chousuke, I agree.  That's what I'm trying to say.
[11:07] <rockviech> how do i mount dvd?
[11:07] <Potterwins> catch the snitch?
[11:08] <scaine> thrush, Geeky is too strong a word.  "not as accesible" is what I was aiming for.
[11:08] <Chousuke> witty remark about your nick.
[11:08] <mnault> how do I enable hardware acceleration on breezy badger with a ati 8500DV vid card?  Didnot go as default
[11:08] <Niomi> Potterwins, I didn't expect to be windows-free this soon. it was surprisingly easy. I mean to get my windows partition running again (for games) but i've been unmotivated to :p
[11:08] <Chousuke> :P
[11:08] <Chousuke> Wine works pretty well
[11:08] <Chousuke> I need PC hardware :(
[11:08] <Potterwins> well at this point..... it appears for my day to day computing needs ubuntu fits the bill
[11:08] <neuro|laptop> cedega allegedly kicks butt
[11:08] <Chousuke> so I can install ubuntu and play games
[11:09] <Niomi> the one i play isn't supported by wine.. yet. i might just wait until wine or cedega supports it.
[11:09] <Potterwins> i am a musician and there are some programs that i use in windows that i have yet to find equivalents for in linux
[11:09] <scaine> Yep - I use cedega too.  New version out in 2 days.  I'm about half way through HL2 at the mo.
[11:09] <EasterSunshine> Chousuke: cedega will not play the games perfectly
[11:09] <rockviech> hello? ^^
[11:09] <Chousuke> EasterSunshine: Sure it won't.
[11:09] <rockviech> how can i mount a dvd to watch?
[11:09] <neuro|laptop> scaine: yeah, i saw the countdown on the site :>
[11:09] <Chousuke> EasterSunshine: but well enough.
[11:09] <EasterSunshine> Chousuke: regardless of whatever claims they make, something very important will always be missing
[11:09] <Chousuke> Nah
[11:09] <EasterSunshine> Chousuke: in my experience of course
[11:09] <Chousuke> It's just a work in progress.
[11:09] <thrush> rockviech: easiest way to watch a dvd might be to apt-get vlc
[11:09] <scaine> neuro|laptop, They know how to market something, eh?  Cheeky buggers haven't slipped even a hint about what's going into version 5... :-(
[11:09] <mnault> how do I enable hardware acceleration on breezy badger with a ati 8500DV vid card?  Didnot go as default
[11:10] <Chousuke> It doesn't even TRY to be complete
[11:10] <EasterSunshine> Chousuke: its chasing a moving target
[11:10] <thrush> rockviech: should mount automatically
[11:10] <neuro|laptop> scaine: countdowns to releases are nothing new
[11:10] <Potterwins> needless to say..... since i installed linux...... my wife thinks i'm having an online affair
[11:10] <Chousuke> it just implements the most popular APIs
[11:10] <Chousuke> EasterSunshine: it has actually caught up already.
[11:10] <neuro|laptop> a nice big XXd YYh ZZm to release counter on a home page is a good way to get repeat visits  and drum up publicity :)
[11:10] <EasterSunshine> Potterwins: do you know about rosegarden?
[11:10] <Potterwins> she just can't understand how an operating system could be so much fun
[11:10] <Potterwins> lol
[11:10] <blabliblabla> Hello
[11:10] <rockviech> trush, but i cant watch, crash when i try to
[11:10] <scaine> neuro|laptop, Yeah, but you expect a leak or two about what to expect.  Nowt.  Not a peep.
[11:10] <Chousuke> EasterSunshine: all they need is to make it work without hitches
[11:10] <Potterwins> i want to try it EasterSunshine
[11:10] <neuro|laptop> that's good PR
[11:11] <Potterwins> can i install it with apt-get?
[11:11] <blabliblabla> I have some trouble with installing mysql-server on breezy, could someone help me please ?
[11:11] <scaine> Bad PR, for the fans...
[11:11] <thrush> rockviech: what app? is sound working before crash?
[11:11] <scaine> :-)
[11:11] <neuro|laptop> heh
[11:11] <emmi> anybody from Finland? :)
[11:11] <Chousuke> o/
[11:11] <kip__> Where else can someone chat to get problems with breezy install fixed?
[11:11] <mnault> no
[11:11] <EasterSunshine> Potterwins: update your repos, and then you can install it, but it will a big big install
[11:11] <Potterwins> have you tried it?
[11:11] <Xyc0> What size swap should I create for breezy?
[11:11] <emmi> Hmf.
[11:11] <Chousuke> Xyc0: depends on how much RAM you have.
[11:12] <neuro|laptop> Xyc0: convention says 1 to 1.5x your ram
[11:12] <Chousuke> well
[11:12] <neuro|laptop> tho other conventions may vary
[11:12] <neuro|laptop> :)
[11:12] <rockviech> trush, ogle and okle, no sound
[11:12] <neuro|laptop> others may say 0.5x your ram
[11:12] <neuro|laptop> depends how much you have
[11:12] <mnault> how do I enable hardware acceleration on breezy badger with a ati 8500DV vid card?  Didnot go as default
[11:12] <emmi> how olr r u?
[11:12] <neuro|laptop> usually anything over a gig of swap is useless
[11:12] <Xyc0> I have 1.5 gig, ubuntu automaticaly assigned 680 MB for swap, should I reinstall assigning more?
[11:12] <neuro|laptop> ime
[11:12] <Chousuke> Xyc0: nah
[11:12] <Chousuke> you don't even need swap
[11:12] <Chousuke> with that RAM
[11:13] <neuro|laptop> you might
[11:13] <neuro|laptop> 2/3rds of a gig should be fine
[11:13] <thrush> Xyc0: i doubt youll use that if u have decent amount of ram
[11:13] <Chousuke> well, yeah. is you use suspend or something.
[11:13] <scaine> mnault, This is an unofficial site, but may cover you're problem : http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/3D_Graphic_Cards
[11:13] <Xyc0> !swap
[11:13] <ubotu> methinks swap is used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[11:13] <emmi> Damn yiu.
[11:13] <emmi> *you
[11:13] <mnault> thanks
[11:13] <Xyc0> wah ha, ubotu knows all
[11:14] <Zeep> crimsun: It seems that my partition table is invalid :-p
[11:14] <Chousuke> emmi: what? :P
[11:14] <rockviech> trush?
[11:14] <thrush> rockviech: what application are u using? xine?
[11:14] <akurashy> how to copy a folder files to another folder ?
[11:15] <Chousuke> on the command line?
[11:15] <emmi> No, nothing, I'm just asking here all sorts of things, but no one answers. ^^
[11:15] <rockviech> trush, i use ogle and okle
[11:15] <neuro|laptop> cp -a /path/to/first/folder/* /path/to/second/folder/
[11:15] <neuro|laptop> or just use nautilus
[11:15] <Chousuke> emmi: Well, I did indicate that I'm from Finland. ;P
[11:15] <neuro|laptop> el draggity drop
[11:15] <akurashy> neuro|laptop: in sshing a server
[11:15] <Chousuke> and if age interests you, I'm 18. :P
[11:15] <mnault> thanks again scaine
[11:15] <akurashy> im*
[11:15] <neuro|laptop> bah
[11:15] <akurashy> thanks once again neuro :)
[11:15] <neuro|laptop> yet another person makes me feel old :)
[11:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> what is the difference between mmc and sd?  i thought they were the same thing..
[11:16] <emmi> Oh are you?
[11:16] <thrush> rockviech: heard of it no experience though sorry, sounds like a swedish band..
[11:16] <Zeep> crimsun: Okay, thank you for your support - I think I am able to fix that, now :-)
[11:16] <emmi> Sorry, I didn't notice then..
[11:16] <rockviech> trush, i downloaded xine, what next?
[11:16] <Chousuke> Anyways.
[11:16] <scaine> Sorry emmi dude.  The reason people are ignoring you is that you're asking people where they're from and how old they are.  This is a technical forums for Ubuntu linux man...
[11:16] <Chousuke> I was going to say something, but I forgot.
[11:17] <neuro|laptop> BROKEN_LADDER: they're the same form factor, but SD is a superior card
[11:17] <emmi> Blah.
[11:17] <cafuego> neuro|laptop: That would have been a very crusty kernel, are you sure you want to have hacked on that? ;-)
[11:17] <emmi> I'm not a dude.
[11:17] <emmi> btw
[11:17] <emmi> haha
[11:17] <emmi> ..not.
[11:17] <_jason> !offtopic
[11:17] <ubotu> #ubuntu should be kept to support for the Ubuntu OS. For random discussion, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:17] <thrush> rockviech: i hate xine ;) I would recommed vlc and mplayer try vlc and see if you have any issues sound etc.
[11:17] <cafuego> neuro|laptop: .. coz the 1.2 reange wasn't *that* great.
[11:17] <neuro|laptop> cafuego: 0.x when i was 18 :)
[11:17] <mjr> SD has also some DRM options, and therefore SD card reader drivers are hard to come by
[11:17] <Chousuke> emmi: on IRC, everyone's a dude until proven otherwise.
[11:17] <rockviech> trush, vlc doesnt work either
[11:17] <scaine> Sorry emmi.  I use "dude" and "man" regardless of sex...
[11:17] <crimsun> rockviech: doesn't work with...?
[11:18] <neuro|laptop> rockviech: did you use File -> Play Disc?
[11:18] <neuro|laptop> scaine: i do that too, you're not alone
[11:18] <emmi> Yeah ok.
[11:18] <sohi> do experienced users use Ubuntu over other distros?
[11:18] <minnie> lol...you guys should use dudes and dudettes...:)
[11:18] <cafuego> neuro|laptop: Yeah, same here. Slackware 3
[11:18] <Chousuke> dudettes :D
[11:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> neuro|laptop i just read one is slightly thicker.  so if my digital camera came with an mmc card, i can replace that with a bigger sd card?
[11:18] <Chousuke> please.
[11:18] <neuro|laptop> cafuego: *same here* :)))
[11:18] <cafuego> sohi: Indeed. Ease of use/administration is a big plus.
[11:18] <neuro|laptop> BROKEN_LADDER: probably, ymmv
[11:18] <neuro|laptop> test before buying, etc
[11:19] <scaine> Dudettes is cool minnie, but I can never tell a dude from a dudette on these forums... :-)
[11:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> uhh..
[11:19] <minnie> No...I know its hard!!!
[11:19] <sohi> I hear it's basically like debian without the hassle of configuration
[11:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> i bought it online of course.
[11:19] <emmi> I'l leave then..
[11:19] <neuro|laptop> and i suspect dudes would get upset at getting called a dudette ;)
[11:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> ymmv?
[11:19] <neuro|laptop> Your Mileage May Vary
[11:19] <scaine> Take it easy emmi.
[11:19] <minnie> Hey...any of you ever tried getting a hp all in one working with the hp drivers?
[11:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> neuro|laptop what is better about sd to mmc?
[11:19] <minnie> Printer that is.
[11:19] <thrush> rockviech: sorry i dunno you might check wiki libdvdcss and such
[11:19] <neuro|laptop> BROKEN_LADDER: sd faster, has h/w write protect, etc
[11:19] <arafat> is there a ubuntu rep for qt 4.0 (or 4.0.1) ?
[11:19] <neuro|laptop> google for more, off topic for here
[11:19] <Chousuke> I should be sleeping ;P
[11:19] <cafuego> sohi: Well, depending on your definition of hassle. It's a desktop-optimsied debian with sightly more sane default settings I guess.
[11:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> neuro|laptop ahhh
[11:19] <emmi> Yea, no hard feelings.
[11:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> thanks
[11:20] <neuro|laptop> np
[11:20] <hav0k> how can i set a program to run when i boot up/log in?
[11:20] <carl_> for a P3 box, do I want linux-686, linux-image-686 or what?
[11:20] <emmi> :-D
[11:20] <scaine> sohi - that's a loaded question.  You trying to stroke egos on this forum?  :-)
[11:20] <emmi> Bye.
[11:20] <cafuego> carl_: yes
[11:20] <neuro|laptop> carl: 686
[11:20] <SAM_theman> lol i had to redo ubuntu again :D
[11:20] <neuro|laptop> mmm, stroked egos
[11:20] <rockviech> tell rockviech about libdvdcss
[11:20] <SAM_theman> 3 time :D
[11:20] <Chousuke> cafuego: well, Ubuntu just installs stuff per default. :p
[11:20] <sohi> hm?
[11:20] <rockviech> omg ^^
[11:20] <scaine> hav0k, You use the sessions options inside your preferences menu. (in Gnome).
[11:20] <Chousuke> Debian doesn't.
[11:20] <Chousuke> Besides the base system
[11:20] <cafuego> carl_: linux-686 depends on linux-image-686, which depends on linux-image-2.6.12-9-686
[11:20] <Chousuke> -s
[11:20] <hav0k> oh, okay
[11:20] <hav0k> thanks, scaine
[11:21] <cafuego> Chousuke: Only if you didn't choose the 'server' install, yes.
[11:21] <scaine> neuro|laptop, Calm yourself man!  :-)
[11:21] <Chousuke> Yeah.
[11:21] <carl_> cafuego, so I pick linux-686 in synaptic, right?
[11:21] <cafuego> Chousuke: But like I said, desktop optimised.
[11:21] <neuro|laptop> scaine: hehe
[11:21] <Chousuke> That I agree with :)
[11:21] <emmi> Back again
[11:21] <cafuego> carl_: Yeah, that's pull in a real kernel for you.
[11:21] <carl_> cafuego, et all - thanks
[11:22] <neuro|laptop> owwwww
[11:22] <neuro|laptop> 60Hz hurts eyes
[11:22] <Potterwins> anybody know how to get all 4 speakers to work with a sound blaster live! sound card?
[11:22] <scaine> I tend to ignore the priority in there hav0k, just leave everything at 50.  Seems to work for me...
[11:22] <sohi> hm what's that one file you usually need when using an nvidia card to use x
[11:22] <cafuego> neuro|laptop: I *still* have a working slack 3 box actually :-)
[11:22] <thrush> rockviech: try sudo apt-get install regionset
[11:22] <SAM_theman> how i install my nvidia driver again (the third time) :D
[11:22] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, do you know what LVM is?
[11:23] <cafuego> SAM_theman: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r); sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:23] <liran> logical volume manager?
[11:23] <scaine> Potterwins, My audigy works with all 4 speakers - double click on the gnome volume applet and you get the sliders appearing for PCM Master, PCM surround, PCM rear, etc...
[11:23] <neuro|laptop> cafuego: me too, a crusty old 486sx25 with 8MB RAM and a whopping 2.5GB disk
[11:23] <sohi> nvidia-glx
[11:23] <sohi> that's it
[11:23] <neuro|laptop> i rarely use it as the ISA NIC in it is 10base2
[11:23] <neuro|laptop> and i unplugged my last thinnet hub a long time ago
[11:23] <cafuego> neuro|laptop: oh, the poor thing. Mine's a K6-3 :-)
[11:23] <neuro|laptop> My First Server
[11:23] <neuro|laptop> :)
[11:24] <cafuego> neuro|laptop: ... which runs as pppoe router/gateway and samba server.
[11:24] <Chousuke> Can you keep such an old distro secured?
[11:24] <scaine> neuro|laptop, 10base2?  That takes me back... you use the old vampire crimps to tap in on those bad mothers??
[11:24] <neuro|laptop> nah, that's 10base5
[11:24] <neuro|laptop> thicknet
[11:24] <vpnsctl> frogzoo, I believe the best thing is to install again the ubuntu, but the instalation program didn't figured out the partitions and showed something like LVM, do you know what lvm is?
[11:24] <scaine> neuro|laptop, sure sure... I stand corrected...
[11:24] <carl_> lspci shows " ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64)" - is there a binary driver I should package use?
[11:24] <Potterwins> mine just says master, pcm and  pc speaker
[11:24] <cafuego> it runs Linux monolith 2.0.40 #79
[11:24] <neuro|laptop> only ever read about vampire taps while doing my MCSE in 1998 :)
[11:25] <Chousuke> cafuego: I don't htink you need a binary driver.
[11:25] <SAM_theman> brb restarting X
[11:25] <scaine> neuro|laptop, Aye - before my time too.  I'm 34 and just missed them about 5 years...
[11:25] <cafuego> Chousuke: Binary driver?
[11:25] <Chousuke> err
[11:25] <Chousuke> carl_: even
[11:25] <Chousuke> :P
[11:25] <vpnsctl> thrush, do you know?
[11:26] <cafuego> Chousuke: Yes, you can keep such an old distro secured, but making ssh work with libc5 *can* be a complete PITA.
[11:26] <Chousuke> cafuego: ehh. :D
[11:26] <vpnsctl> thrush, the problem is, I have some partitions in here and ubuntu is not recognizing any
[11:26] <vpnsctl> thrush, in the instalation process
[11:26] <Chousuke> And people complain that Debian is old :(
[11:26] <cafuego> Chousuke: <hehe>
[11:26] <Potterwins> ahhhh i got it
[11:26] <Chousuke> I take that slackbox is pretty stable.
[11:26] <cafuego> Chousuke: I just apply rule 1.
[11:26] <vpnsctl> thrush, but if I go to a terminal, I can see each partition
[11:26] <Potterwins> i just needed to add it scaine
[11:27] <scaine> Potterwins, well, it's an audigy I'm using, not a live, so I might not be able to help here.  Just make sure you're looking at the right device though...
[11:27] <cafuego> Chousuke: It is not, it had a dodgy scsi controller a while back, made it crash.
[11:27] <Chousuke> cafuego: Hmm, that I haven't heard.
[11:27] <rockviech> trush and next?
[11:27] <treitter> anyone here on Breezy who uses sound-juicer to rip Ogg Vorbis?
[11:27] <cafuego> eh, it is NOW.
[11:27] <Chousuke> cafuego: right.
[11:27] <cafuego> !rule 1
[11:27] <ubotu> Rule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!
[11:27] <treitter> I hosed my prefs and just need someone to read off a few lines
[11:27] <scaine> Potterwins, so you can see all the front/rear options now?
[11:27] <Chousuke> Ah, of course.
[11:27] <rockviech> trush, how can i call fstab under etc?
[11:27] <scaine> treitter, Nope, I use Grip to rip MP3.
[11:27] <odie5533> Is there a way to get NetBeans on Ubuntu?
[11:28] <treitter> scaine: but you haven't uninstalled sound-juicer, have you?
[11:28] <Potterwins> surround and wave surround
[11:28] <cafuego> Interestingly it has the same uptime as my hosted box, 233 days.
[11:28] <treitter> scaine: I basically just use the default prefs
[11:28] <scaine> treitter, It comes as standard, I think (in Breezy).
[11:28] <Potterwins> thanks scaine
[11:28] <scaine> Potterwins, no worries.
[11:28] <Dasnipa`> odie5533: just download the netmeans binary file and install...
[11:28] <scaine> treitter, sorry - misunderstood you.  Yep, it's still installed.
[11:28] <Dasnipa`> beans*
[11:28] <Potterwins> anybody got any pointers on installing wolfenstein enemy territory ?
[11:28] <treitter> scaine: yeah. Could you launch it and read off the lines in Edit -> Prefs -> Edit Profiles (button near the bottom) -> (default entry)
[11:29] <neuro|laptop> Potterwins: yeah, unpack and run the installer
[11:29] <neuro|laptop> it Just Works
[11:29] <Potterwins> i'm dowloading the run file
[11:29] <scaine> treitter, two ticks dude.
[11:29] <odie5533> Dasnipa`, is there any deb file of it?
[11:29] <Potterwins> how do i unpack?
[11:29] <jpoe> anyone have suggestions as to good C/C++ IDE's to check out? .. I'm using standard ubuntu/gnome .. I've tried kdevelop, and I use bluefish for php stuff, but neither really fits me for C/C++ .. any recommendations?
[11:29] <Potterwins> sorry
[11:29] <neuro|laptop> sorry, just run the run file
[11:29] <Potterwins> k
[11:29] <Potterwins> sorry
[11:29] <Potterwins> i'm a newb
[11:29] <synackuator> how do you squelch someone in irc?
[11:29] <Potterwins> but i am having a blast learning
[11:30] <Stormx2> ubuntuforums are... back!
[11:30] <akurashy> how do i kill a ssh session?
[11:30] <scaine> treitter, the default on my system is "CD Quality, Lossy (Ogg)".  In edit profiles, I have three entries - CD Quality Lossless, Lossy and Voice.  Which do you want?
[11:31] <Chousuke> he wants cd quality lossy
[11:31] <Chousuke> ;P
[11:31] <scaine> treitter, For lossy (for example), the Gstreamer pipeline is " audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! vorbisenc name=enc quality=0.5"
[11:31] <scaine> Does that help?
[11:31] <treitter> scaine: yeah. Thanks!
[11:31] <scaine> No worries.
[11:32] <linuxboy> can I check the md5sum of a cd/dvd *after* i burn it?
[11:32] <linuxboy> i wanna check the ubuntu dvd
[11:32] <scaine> That's 10:30.  I'm gonna shoot the craw and read my book.  Take it easy dudes.  (and dudettes)...  :-)
[11:32] <roshan> jpoe: anjuta?
[11:32] <Seveas> linuxboy, sudo md5sum /dev/hdX
[11:32] <rockviech> how can i open fstab?
[11:32] <selinium> synackuator, /ignore
[11:33] <linuxboy> Seveas: it returns a different sum....
[11:33] <rockviech> how can i open fstab????
[11:33] <minnie> in a terminal sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:33] <selinium> rockviech, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:33] <selinium> minnie, you win! :)
[11:33] <minnie> lol
[11:33] <Xerxes_Ubuntu> hey
[11:34] <Xerxes_Ubuntu> how can I change my screen resolution
[11:34] <selinium> Xerxes_Ubuntu, System /prefs /screen res
[11:34] <malv> does the amd64 version have 64-bit programs?
[11:34] <selinium> malv, yep
[11:35] <SAM_theman> umm guys
[11:35] <neuro|laptop> and gals
[11:35] <neuro|laptop> (not that i'm a gal)
[11:35] <vader1102> wrong place woops
[11:35] <selinium> SAM_theman, and gals
[11:35] <malv> is it possible to upgrade from a x86 installation to an amd64 installation?
[11:35] <SAM_theman> i can't play my cd player its playing but now music (sound)
[11:35] <SAM_theman> yup
[11:35] <SAM_theman> srry :d
[11:36] <cafuego> malv: Wipe, reinstall.
[11:36] <selinium> malv, I don't think so. It need a separate partition. Or over write
[11:36] <cafuego> malv: Do you use java/flash/vxid video?
[11:36] <cafuego> s/vxid/xvid and divx/
[11:36] <malv> yea, i think i will save my home directory
[11:36] <Xerxes_Ubuntu> dudes
[11:36] <Xerxes_Ubuntu> how can I get ubuntu liek fullscreen
[11:36] <Xerxes_Ubuntu> :P
[11:37] <cafuego> dudette...
[11:37] <selinium> cafuego, i think you can get flash now in 64bit
[11:37] <Xerxes_Ubuntu> It wont work
[11:37] <cafuego> selinium: Yes, it happily crashes firefox.
[11:37] <selinium> cafuego, Didn't know, not tried iut myself! :)
[11:37] <jesdiscover> anyone else seeing download problems from repositories ?..so far wine and blackdown java aren't fetching right (          blackdown failed at around 87%) and wanted to make sure its not just me ..??
[11:37] <cafuego> selinium: it gets really annoying when FF crashes each timr you happen to come across a page with a flasha d banner or something :-(
[11:37] <selinium> Xerxes_Ubuntu, what kind of card are you using? ati/nvidia
[11:37] <malv> i am considering upgrade from a 2500+ xp processor to an AMD 64 3200+ and I am wondering what kind of performance differences I should expect
[11:38] <cafuego> jesdiscover: You have no business downloading from blackdown. Blackdown java is in the Ubuntu repositories.
[11:38] <Xerxes_Ubuntu> uhm
[11:38] <selinium> malv, not all programs have been rewritten for 64 bit. So you will only get better performance from those applications
[11:38] <Xerxes_Ubuntu> none of those
[11:38] <Xerxes_Ubuntu> hmm
[11:38] <jesdiscover> cafuego, im not downloading from there..im doing all this from "add applications'....
[11:38] <selinium> Xerxes_Ubuntu, it will be one of those! :)
[11:38] <cafuego> malv: Not too much on desktop apps, media apps and compiling will run about twice as fast.
[11:39] <Seveas> jesdiscover, that uses the ubuntu repositories...
[11:39] <cafuego> jesdiscover: Ah, that's good then :-)
[11:39] <jesdiscover> yes..it does
[11:39] <malv> thanks guys
[11:39] <jesdiscover> Seveas, yes, I know
[11:39] <cafuego> jesdiscover: See if you can try a different mirror site.
[11:39] <selinium> malv, If you are looking to run a lamp it will fly!
[11:39] <cafuego> jesdiscover: Also check if your disk is full.
[11:39] <jesdiscover> cafuego, disk has tons of room
[11:39] <jesdiscover> cafuego, use a diffferent mirror ?
[11:39] <cafuego> jesdiscover: Yep
[11:40] <jesdiscover> cafuego, sorry..my brother setup this thing on my computer last night..I dont know a  mirror from the one in my  bathroom
[11:40] <SAM_theman> well...
[11:40] <roshan> jesdiscover, you might want to d/l wine from winehq.org instead of the repos. They've just releases v0.9 and finally it is in beta. They have ubuntu packages
[11:40] <SAM_theman> anyone had that problem?
[11:40] <cafuego> jesdiscover: 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' and change the hostname for the mirror. What's in there now?
[11:41] <selinium> jesdiscover, you can also download a 30 day trail of crossover office...
[11:41] <jesdiscover> cafuego, I have no idea what your talking about :(..maybe im asking for help in the wrong place..where shoud I go ?
[11:41] <odie5533> Is there a way to force a resolution change from some config file? maybe xorg.conf?
[11:41] <blank> does ubuntu come with screenshot taking program?
[11:41] <jesdiscover> selinium, what does that do , and where can it be found..what are the benefits of this ?
[11:41] <blank> like kshot or whatever it's called with kde
[11:41] <cafuego> jesdiscover: Open a terminal. Type 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'.
[11:42] <blank> Hello, does ubuntu come with a screenshot taking program, like KDE does
[11:42] <ptlo> blank, click on System menu on the top panel, then 'Take Screenshot'
[11:42] <roshan> odie5533, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select resolutions from the list
[11:42] <blank> thanks bud im stupid
[11:42] <yohan> WHere should i install java apps?
[11:42] <selinium> jesdiscover, I take it you are trying to install wine.. If so crossover office is a propriatary (Payed for) program allowing you to install and run windows based software.
[11:42] <yohan> to what path is standard? /usr/bin?
[11:42] <jesdiscover> cafuego, its asking for some password....im going to strange my brother when I see him today
[11:43] <selinium> jesdiscover, strangle?
[11:43] <jesdiscover> +l
[11:43] <cafuego> jesdiscover: That's supposed to happen. Enter your password.
[11:43] <jesdiscover> ok
[11:43] <roshan> yohan, I usually install them in subdirectories of /opt/
[11:44] <moua> do you have a n advice on how yo install a tv tunner ?
[11:44] <aguthrie> I'm having a problem with my logitech mx500 mouse. it seems to pick it up and all, but the light doesn't come on (scrollwheel works if it's positioned over an active window).
[11:44] <yohan> roshan: k
[11:45] <thechitowncubs> This project was a great idea
[11:45] <yohan> anyone running azureus here? it hangs when i do tools->options?
[11:45] <jesdiscover> cafuego, ok that seems to be working...nothing is happening though..the cursor wont move
[11:45] <cafuego> jesdiscover: Not with the arrow keys?
[11:46] <roshan> moua, what tuner do you have?
[11:46] <jesdiscover> cafuego, hm
[11:46] <zxsykco> I'd like libtyvis1-dev on me box here..  And it tells me Depends: libtyvis1 (=20031216-4) but it is not installable... This makes me very sad.. T_T Can someone help me please? ^_^
[11:46] <cafuego> jesdiscover: 'nano' won't use the mouse.
[11:46] <jesdiscover> cafuego, oh
[11:47] <blank> anyone recommend any good ftp program?
[11:47] <blank> im downloading gFTP right now
[11:47] <zxsykco> VHDL C++ headers are good for me!
[11:47] <cafuego> jesdiscover: Now it'll have a few lines that start wuth 'deb'. Can you paste *one* of them?
[11:47] <cafuego> blank: Places -> Connect to Server...  -> Set up an FTP one.
[11:47] <PJeremy> !ffmpeg
[11:47] <ubotu> PJeremy: Not a clue
[11:47] <Aven> blank
[11:47] <blank> ah, okay...
[11:47] <squidbullets> nalioth: can I program a printjob to print a single page file once every 8 minutes and twenty two seconds?
[11:47] <blank> yeah aven?
[11:47] <PJeremy> !info ffmpeg
[11:47] <Aven> just use sudo apt-get install gftp
[11:47] <ubotu> ffmpeg: (multimedia player, server and encoder), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 3:0.cvs20050918-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 3880 kB, Installed size: 9776 kB
[11:47] <Aven> easier :D
[11:48] <ubuntu> fuck
[11:48] <blank> yeah, i used synaptic instead
[11:48] <ubuntu> tieten
[11:48] <Aven> that works too :)
[11:48] <ubuntu> pijken
[11:48] <squidbullets> fuck
[11:48] <SAM_theman> i can't my music
[11:48] <SAM_theman> or hear any games
[11:48] <nalioth> squidbullets: yes you can.
[11:48] <cafuego> !ops
[11:48] <ubuntu> pijpen
[11:48] <ubotu> ops is, like, totally, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[11:48] <nalioth> squidbullets: please watch your language
[11:48] <ubuntu> dood aan buch
[11:48] <cafuego> Guys, 'ubuntu' would like to be kicked off. He's being rude (in dutch)
[11:48] <ubuntu> ja cool!
[11:49] <jesdiscover> cafuego, I am so glad your trying to help me...but this is all rather confusing coming from windows ( brother insisted and so far its nice enough ..)...shouldnt 'add applications' just work  ?
[11:49] <cafuego> nalioth: cheers
[11:49] <ubuntu> pijpen
[11:49] <cafuego> jesdiscover: yes, but if the server it's fetching the application from is not working right, there will be issues.
[11:49] <ubuntu> tongen