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| Mars | Mars I have already installed kx docker | 12:11 |
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| Mars | Mars Is taht good choice or there is beter Mac docker? | 12:11 |
| Mars | Mars And main thing how can i configure it? | 12:11 |
| Mars | Oh | 12:12 |
| Mars | I founs | 12:12 |
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| kairu0 | hey all | 12:15 |
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| Niomi | hm, this is a long shot, but is there a way to switch GUIs without exiting your programs? i want to switch from gnome to KDE. | 12:25 |
| nalioth | Niomi: not unless your programs are console proggys running in a screen session | 12:26 |
| Niomi | didn't think so, but i thought it was worth asking. out of curiosity, how do you keep your console/terminal session between GUIs? | 12:27 |
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| SuperGuppy | hi guys | 12:28 |
| === Niomi waves | ||
| Juerd | Niomi: There is a way. | 12:28 |
| Juerd | Niomi: It's not easy. | 12:28 |
| SuperGuppy | looks like I'm switchint to Kubuntu now that suse is going GNOME | 12:28 |
| nalioth | Niomi: screen is neat li't program that survives everything but a complete shutdown | 12:29 |
| Juerd | Niomi: Start /usr/bin/startkde | 12:29 |
| Juerd | Niomi: Then kill off all gnome programs still running | 12:29 |
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| Juerd | Niomi: Start /usr/bin/startkde again | 12:29 |
| Juerd | Niomi: Kill all KDE programs that were started twice | 12:29 |
| nalioth | Niomi: http://jmcpherson.org/screen.html | 12:29 |
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| Mars^ | shit i cant put kxdocker to the top of screec :/ | 12:32 |
| Mars^ | screen * | 12:32 |
| kairu0 | SuperGuppy, what do you think about suse switching to gnome? | 12:33 |
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| Niomi | thanks juerd and nalioth, i'm going to have to play around with these for a bit :) | 12:35 |
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| nalioth | Niomi: here is another window into screen (scroll down on the page) http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/07/06/unix_gems.html | 12:36 |
| Niomi | nalioth, oh, thank you! yay, pictures! XD | 12:38 |
| nalioth | Niomi: i love my "gnu screen" | 12:39 |
| nalioth | Niomi: of course, i'm a console cowboy | 12:39 |
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| Niomi | nalioth: console cowboy.. what an image, hehe | 12:40 |
| nalioth | console is lightning quick | 12:40 |
| nalioth | console has minimal system footprint | 12:40 |
| Niomi | nalioth: i'm currently too much of a pansy for the CLI but i really want to learn it and get used to it eventually. | 12:40 |
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| Niomi | but right now anything without a GUI or a program which involves something more complicated than clicking 'next' a lot is intimidating. | 12:41 |
| nalioth | Niomi: here is a good read, then. http://www.cmm.uklinux.net/steve/ntt.html | 12:42 |
| nalioth | Niomi: mice cause carpal tunnel | 12:42 |
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| Niomi | oh, this definatly looks like good reading. | 12:43 |
| nalioth | Niomi: i'm full of good links | 12:44 |
| Niomi | i didn't have problems with RSI until i got my laptop.. those touch pads are evil. i'm really looking forward to being fluent with the CLI | 12:44 |
| Niomi | that, and tetris.. er, gnometris. i got addicted to it. pounding those arrow keys bother my wrists. XD | 12:47 |
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| _root | hi people | 12:48 |
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| Niomi | hi :) | 12:49 |
| nalioth | Niomi: there is *tris for console | 12:50 |
| nalioth | Niomi: time to become a console cowboy now? :) | 12:51 |
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| Niomi | i did get a *tris for console, it took me a bit to figure out why it wasn't in the 'games' menu, hehe! | 12:52 |
| nalioth | heh | 12:52 |
| firephoto | how do I enable the page-up completion/search of the bash history (not a default apparently) | 12:54 |
| Niomi | oh, that would be a good tip | 12:55 |
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| Delvien | Do i have to install TOTEM to get mpeg playback? | 01:07 |
| nalioth | Delvien: you do not | 01:08 |
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| Delvien | nalioth what is the procedure for getting mpegs to play, somehow they dont, i accidently removed KDE yesterday and im missing something i think | 01:09 |
| nalioth | !multimedia | 01:09 |
| ubotu | I heard multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia | 01:09 |
| SHRIKEE | sup nalioth | 01:10 |
| SHRIKEE | its me fujisan | 01:10 |
| SHRIKEE | nalioth do you know Eric Cordly? | 01:10 |
| nalioth | SHRIKEE: i know no one | 01:10 |
| SHRIKEE | lol | 01:10 |
| Delvien | thanks nalioth | 01:11 |
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| dennis_p | Well, this is me on kubuntu. Too bad about the insane Debian insatllation questions but it works. Now to install mythtv, well maybe sleep first. | 01:18 |
| kairu0 | oh what do you need sleep for | 01:20 |
| kairu0 | kubuntu is your new life | 01:20 |
| OtisTick | guys, does KDE offer a config panel for the gfx h/w or do I have to dive into some XFree86 (or similar) config file to set my card parameters ? | 01:21 |
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| OtisTick | I remember years ago on a Mandrake install that I had to fool around with X config files | 01:21 |
| OtisTick | wasn't fun | 01:21 |
| kairu0 | OtisTick, you can set your resolution within kde | 01:22 |
| kairu0 | OtisTick, you cant change your video driver | 01:22 |
| firephoto | the xorg.conf is pretty forgiving now days. | 01:22 |
| OtisTick | I saw the resolution settings | 01:22 |
| kairu0 | OtisTick, and refresh rate | 01:22 |
| OtisTick | kairu0: thanks but not what I need | 01:22 |
| OtisTick | I have to check that the drivers are ok | 01:22 |
| OtisTick | I'll go and look at xorg.conf | 01:23 |
| OtisTick | firephoto: thanks ! | 01:23 |
| firephoto | OtisTick: it should be pretty straight forward with the pre configured xorg.conf. mine looks pretty sane here. ;) | 01:25 |
| dennis_p | kairu0: yeah who needs sleep :-) | 01:25 |
| OtisTick | firephoto: I really get the feeling there's no h/w accel happening | 01:25 |
| OtisTick | I'll snoop around, cheers | 01:26 |
| firephoto | OtisTick: same here. i have a savage chipset (thinkpad) and the dri stuff seemed to install but it's not working. | 01:26 |
| firephoto | one the new xorg rolls out it won't be an issue since 6.9/7.0 has the new savage and mesa drivers. | 01:27 |
| kairu0 | firephoto, my dri worked, but slowly, so i compiled my own badass video driver | 01:27 |
| firephoto | i haven't looked into in depth yet. just tweaking things to get it to be how i'm used to now (gentoo) heh | 01:28 |
| firephoto | have to learn to live with (use) sudo too i guess. | 01:28 |
| firephoto | i figured my pageup/dwn issue. had to edit /etc/inputrc | 01:29 |
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| OtisTick | firephoto: when is that expected ? | 01:30 |
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| hc | Aloha.... I just got ubuntu up running, and was wondering which codecs I should get .... so i can hear wma or what ever all these different things are called | 01:31 |
| firephoto | OtisTick: no idea..... there could already be packges for the rc somewhere for all i know. my kubuntu experience is less than 12 hours and ubuntu experience was about 15 minutes with a live cd a couple months ago. lol | 01:31 |
| OtisTick | haha | 01:31 |
| OtisTick | excellent | 01:31 |
| kairu0 | hc: w32codecs, and vlc for wmv | 01:31 |
| OtisTick | I just managed to get this box online today | 01:31 |
| OtisTick | I was trying to get eth0 to talk to the net when in fact I should have been configuring eth1 | 01:32 |
| firephoto | i ditched opensuse on the laptop after it got a little messed up with the 10.1alpha update. worked fine, just couldn't update or downgrade stuff. my big boxes are all gentoo though. | 01:32 |
| OtisTick | no indication anywhere about what h/w eth0 or eth1 were working on | 01:32 |
| OtisTick | *grrrr* | 01:32 |
| OtisTick | ok | 01:32 |
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| CzarAlex | Since I have installed Kubuntu-desktop, how do I remove Gnome? What command do I run in the terminal? | 01:33 |
| nalioth | ubotu: tell hc about w32codecs | 01:33 |
| OtisTick | CzarAlex: in Synaptic you should be able to uninstall Gnome | 01:33 |
| nalioth | CzarAlex: why remove it? are you short on HD space? | 01:34 |
| OtisTick | (I think) | 01:34 |
| CzarAlex | nalioth, No, but I hear that having gdm and kde on the same system can cause an error with the hotplug system recognizing USB storage devices | 01:34 |
| OtisTick | I also installed KDE ... should I use Synaptic or Adept ? | 01:34 |
| nalioth | CzarAlex: that's the first i've heard of that | 01:35 |
| hc | Thanks.. I just need a new source.list I guess.. or whatever that thingie is calle | 01:35 |
| CzarAlex | nalioth, and Im having that problem. Lemme find the post. | 01:35 |
| OtisTick | I hadn't noticed Adept before, Synaptic was in the original install ... where did Adept come from ? | 01:35 |
| nalioth | OtisTick: adept is a kde program | 01:35 |
| OtisTick | ok ... | 01:35 |
| OtisTick | so is there a rule of thumb which package manager to use ? | 01:35 |
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| firephoto | adept is pretty nice, simple and lightweight it seems like. | 01:36 |
| PJeremy | OtisTick: both are just graphical frontends of apt | 01:36 |
| nalioth | OtisTick: adept is the kde pkg manager | 01:36 |
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| OtisTick | nalioth: I heard you first time | 01:37 |
| CzarAlex | nalioth, here is the issue im having http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74461 . I was able to use my USB thumb drives in hoary, but breezy doesn't like it. and it appears as if Im not the only one with the problem (which is a relief to me at least..) Post #12 (on the second page of the thread) indicates that having both gdm and kde can cause the problem, and since i dont use gnome on this machine, i thought I would take it o | 01:38 |
| CzarAlex | ff and see if this helps my cause. | 01:38 |
| OtisTick | PJeremy: thanks, that clears it up for me | 01:38 |
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| dennis_p | Ah found the kubuntu faq at http://kudos.berlios.de/ | 01:39 |
| nalioth | CzarAlex: just remove gdm | 01:39 |
| CzarAlex | nalioth, from synaptic? the gdm package? | 01:39 |
| nalioth | CzarAlex: whatever means you prefer | 01:40 |
| CzarAlex | nalioth, which ever doesnt break my system. :) | 01:40 |
| nalioth | CzarAlex: you use kdm as your windowmangler? | 01:42 |
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| CzarAlex | nalioth, I do. | 01:42 |
| psyke83 | Question: I understand the 2.6 kernel has a new NTFS driver that supports RW on static-sized files, right? Well, I'm wondering if it's possible to install Linux on a Windows XP machine into a loopback file (meaning I won't have to repartition), is this possible? | 01:42 |
| OtisTick | firephoto: hey hey hey ... nvidia-glx ... I'll install that | 01:43 |
| nalioth | CzarAlex: go for it | 01:43 |
| CzarAlex | nalioth, thank you. | 01:43 |
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| dennis_p | should i try sudo apt-get install linux-686 | 01:49 |
| dennis_p | well I'm doing it now because this is not a 386 pc :-) | 01:52 |
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| dennis_p | you know upgrading kernel means a restart, pff I thought you didn't have to restarts linux all the time :-) | 01:53 |
| hc | well, anyone of you have a copy of your Souce.list in... so i can grab some more things with apt-get..........? | 01:53 |
| PJeremy | !sources | 01:54 |
| ubotu | A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic | 01:54 |
| dennis_p | Oh my, am I running hoary or breezy? | 01:55 |
| nalioth | ubotu: tell hc about sources | 01:56 |
| nalioth | dennis_p: open a terminal and type "cat /etc/issue" | 01:56 |
| dennis_p | breezy badger | 01:57 |
| dennis_p | Well it's 02:00 I'll reboot to check my new kernel and go to sleep bye :-) | 02:00 |
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| unidad23 | a | 02:04 |
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| Delvien | Anyway to get the battery icon from gnome onto KDE ? | 02:06 |
| nalioth | kde has a battery monitor, iirc | 02:06 |
| Delvien | nalioth oh , know the addy? | 02:07 |
| Delvien | klaptop isnt doing it for me | 02:07 |
| nalioth | Delvien: i geuss thats the one i was thinking of | 02:09 |
| Delvien | nalioth its not as nice as gnome battery | 02:09 |
| Delvien | plus i hate klaptop but there is nothing else for KDE that has more options | 02:10 |
| nalioth | Delvien: in adept, search for "battery" | 02:10 |
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| OtisTick | hi again ... so I have loaded NVIDIA drivers using apt-get ... I'm not seeing any immediate improvement to my desktop's responsiveness .... where do I have to look now ? | 02:11 |
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| OtisTick | I found a nvidia-settings app but it doesn't provide much | 02:11 |
| OtisTick | the Display pannel still just allows me to change definitions ... nothing very usefule there either | 02:12 |
| OtisTick | so, where can I check next what's up with these drivers ? | 02:12 |
| nalioth | ubotu: tell OtisTick about fixres | 02:13 |
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| OtisTick | nalioth: thanks ! | 02:15 |
| nalioth | OtisTick: np | 02:15 |
| Delvien | nalioth bah nothing what im looking for , guess ill just have to mod it ! | 02:16 |
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| kairu0 | ...to save the day | 02:23 |
| Delvien | hmm why wont my usb keyboard work if i dont reboot my pc when i plug it in? | 02:23 |
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| kairu0 | Delvien, so you are plugging in the keyboard while using X? | 02:25 |
| Delvien | kairu0 X as in KDE? | 02:26 |
| kairu0 | Delvien, yes | 02:26 |
| Delvien | kairu0 yes | 02:26 |
| Delvien | kairu0 So X cant be running when i plug in a USB? thats crazy | 02:26 |
| kairu0 | Delvien, just a guess, but with your mouse uses a special device called /dev/input/mice that automagically works with usb,ps2,etc. but your keyboard uses an older Xfree86 driver thats not as smart | 02:27 |
| Delvien | kairu0 i would of thought linux had usb support, plug and play kinda thing support | 02:27 |
| kairu0 | theres gotta be a way to do it | 02:27 |
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| Delvien | kairu0 hmm well im working on a laptop , so i have a keyboard that works out of the box, it is just wierd i cant plug in a USB keyboard and have it work. | 02:29 |
| Delvien | and its worked b4 so: ) | 02:30 |
| kairu0 | its worked b4 plug and play? | 02:31 |
| Delvien | idk | 02:31 |
| kairu0 | ...in kde? | 02:31 |
| Delvien | usually when i plug it in the computer is off | 02:31 |
| Delvien | Laptops are wonderful | 02:31 |
| Delvien | better than a desktop in alot of ways | 02:32 |
| kairu0 | i know. i use one too | 02:32 |
| Delvien | what kind | 02:32 |
| kairu0 | sony vaio f series | 02:32 |
| Delvien | o :( | 02:32 |
| kairu0 | wide screen ;) | 02:32 |
| Delvien | Dell i6000d wide screen here | 02:32 |
| Delvien | 15.4 | 02:33 |
| kairu0 | i love wide screen | 02:33 |
| Delvien | me too hehe , plus they are really sharp in color and brightness | 02:33 |
| kairu0 | so much better for word processing and spreadsheets | 02:33 |
| kairu0 | yeah they are | 02:33 |
| kairu0 | i stopped using gnome because of my wide screen | 02:34 |
| Delvien | why? | 02:34 |
| kairu0 | you know, theres two panels and both of em have lots of open space in the middle | 02:34 |
| kairu0 | the open space is even wider on wide screen | 02:34 |
| kairu0 | :) | 02:34 |
| Delvien | i dont get why you stopped using gnome though? because of the taskbar and app bar? | 02:35 |
| kairu0 | yeah. they wasted too much space with empty grayness | 02:37 |
| Delvien | oh hehe, i use the same kind of thing in KDE, i have the one main bar at top and the app bar at the bottom | 02:38 |
| Delvien | i like Gnome ALOT, but KDE has better bluetooth support built in, and that was my main problem with Gnome | 02:38 |
| Delvien | god damn microsoft mouse for bluetooth !! | 02:38 |
| Delvien | works flawlessly in windows, but linux, I cant use forward/back buttons, and my scroll wheel doesnt work, | 02:39 |
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| kairu0 | lol | 02:41 |
| kairu0 | microsoft mice are blootooth?? | 02:41 |
| Delvien | they have 2 | 02:41 |
| kairu0 | thats fucked up | 02:41 |
| Delvien | version 1 and version 2, i have version 2 | 02:41 |
| Delvien | nice mouse, very comfortable, but has support issues | 02:42 |
| kairu0 | i'd never buy a bluetooth mouse | 02:42 |
| kairu0 | i use an ibm mouse and it is really durable, but not wireless | 02:42 |
| nalioth | kairu0: please, you're soiling my virgin screen | 02:42 |
| Delvien | they use a special bluetooth translation or soemthing, and it doesnt communicate the special buttons to linux well | 02:42 |
| kairu0 | nalioth, lol sorry | 02:42 |
| Delvien | kairu0 Wireless is great, since i only use a laptop, and i have internal bluetooth , so i dont have to use any USB adaptors, connects right to my laptop ootb | 02:43 |
| kairu0 | i see | 02:43 |
| kairu0 | in japan, its really hard to find new laptops with builtin wireless | 02:44 |
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| kairu0 | so i dont :) | 02:44 |
| kairu0 | hey LeeJunFan | 02:44 |
| Delvien | hey leejun :) | 02:44 |
| Delvien | kairu0 order off the internet :) | 02:44 |
| LeeJunFan | hello | 02:44 |
| nalioth | kairu0: your kiddin right? | 02:45 |
| Delvien | kairu0 sony i beleive the f series you have has bluetooth, there is a way to connect it internally, but that means opening up the laptop | 02:45 |
| kairu0 | nalioth, no | 02:45 |
| kairu0 | Delvien, "connect it internally?" | 02:45 |
| Delvien | nalioth japanese laptops are concieved on the Small form factor, bare bones systems to make them lighter | 02:45 |
| nalioth | kairu0: you're tellin us that japan (leader in cool tech) has a shortage of wireless enabled laptops? | 02:46 |
| Delvien | kairu0 make it so you dont have to have a USB dongle | 02:46 |
| Delvien | nalioth no no , bluetooth , | 02:46 |
| nalioth | ah, bt | 02:46 |
| kairu0 | nalioth, for that matter most new laptops only have 256mb ram (its kind of assumed that if you want more you'll request it) | 02:46 |
| Delvien | BT is mostly american euro | 02:46 |
| Delvien | kairu0 thats why SFF sucks | 02:47 |
| kairu0 | SFF? | 02:47 |
| Delvien | small form factor | 02:47 |
| kairu0 | oh ok | 02:47 |
| Delvien | teenee tiny laptops that are crappy | 02:47 |
| kairu0 | one of my criterium for a new laptop was builtin wifi, but it was too hard to find. i looked at sony, toshiba, and nec but none of em had it (unless I doubled my budget) | 02:48 |
| Delvien | when did you look? | 02:48 |
| Delvien | 3 years ago? | 02:48 |
| kairu0 | 3 months ago | 02:49 |
| Delvien | hmm | 02:49 |
| kairu0 | and this was Akihabara dude | 02:49 |
| Delvien | no built in wifi over there? you sure you were looking for the right thing? | 02:50 |
| kairu0 | aka the mecca of japanese electronics | 02:50 |
| kairu0 | oh yes. everyone i've seen does it with a pc card | 02:50 |
| Delvien | mini PC card? | 02:50 |
| kairu0 | type 2 | 02:50 |
| Delvien | some call it a mini wlan card | 02:50 |
| Delvien | They will hardly ever say "internal ," or "built in" | 02:51 |
| Delvien | if it didnt say PCMCIA it is internal | 02:51 |
| Delvien | well or USB | 02:51 |
| kairu0 | i know how to shop for notebooks. i'd read the tag, and nearly all of em had a space for WIFI that was blank | 02:52 |
| Delvien | thats wierd | 02:52 |
| kairu0 | and to be sure, i'd ask the salesman who confirmed it | 02:52 |
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| Delvien | I know this is like commiting a crime, but did you look at Dell.jp.com? i think thats the URL | 02:53 |
| kairu0 | i think what it comes down to is that custom configurations arent common, so anything above the factory build is your responsibility | 02:53 |
| nalioth | the wifi card that is the size of a memory stick doesnt work? | 02:53 |
| Delvien | nalioth im sure he doesnt want a dongle hanging out all the time | 02:54 |
| kairu0 | nalioth, those work too | 02:54 |
| Delvien | http://www1.jp.dell.com/content/default.aspx?c=jp&l=jp&s=gen, can pick what you want ( for the most part ) in your system | 02:55 |
| kairu0 | Delvien, dell outlet stores are new in japan and have no stock | 02:55 |
| kairu0 | Delvien, so you can order anything, but you dont get it until 2 weeks later | 02:55 |
| Delvien | kairu0 why would you go to a retail store to get a laptop? if its not what you want, 1) you probibly pay more 2) you can wait 2 weeks for something you want for your money | 02:56 |
| Delvien | the wait is worth it | 02:56 |
| Delvien | kairu0 im not trying to argue with you, im just saying, why pay for something that isnt exactly what you were looking for ? | 02:56 |
| nalioth | Delvien: these arent dongles, they are the same size as a memory card and completely are internal, when in use | 02:57 |
| kairu0 | cuz i dont like to wait 2 weeks when i want it now | 02:57 |
| nalioth | Delvien: they were designed for Palm PDAs | 02:57 |
| Delvien | nalioth i thought you were talking about usb :P | 02:57 |
| Delvien | i got mine in 4 days | 02:57 |
| kairu0 | Delvien, besides, i dont have a credit card in japan so i cant order online | 02:57 |
| Delvien | ah | 02:58 |
| kairu0 | it takes 2 weeks here | 02:58 |
| Delvien | you can buy mini pci wifi cards and install it yourself, im not sure about the F series, so youll have to do some reasearch | 02:58 |
| kairu0 | Delvien, i already have a type 2 card | 02:59 |
| Delvien | type 2 card? that might be a sony thing, i dont know what that is | 02:59 |
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| gdh | whee =) | 03:00 |
| Delvien | hello | 03:00 |
| kairu0 | Delvien, i mean pcmcia type 2 card | 03:01 |
| Delvien | kairu0 k i gotcha now | 03:01 |
| kairu0 | Delvien, good :) | 03:01 |
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| kairu0 | Delvien, now i just need a better network configuration | 03:03 |
| Delvien | :) | 03:04 |
| Delvien | 108 dynamic G here , | 03:04 |
| kairu0 | Delvien, since i'm usually not plugged in to a wired network, i wait for eth0 to time out every time i boot | 03:04 |
| Delvien | disable eth0 and enable it when you plug in | 03:04 |
| kairu0 | i could do that | 03:04 |
| kairu0 | maybe i'll use ifplugd again | 03:04 |
| Delvien | i always run on wirless unless i am in windows playing games | 03:05 |
| gdh | kairu0: I've not followed the thread - you can always press ctrl-c instead of waiting for eth0 to timeout on DHCP :) | 03:05 |
| kairu0 | gdh, i want a more intelligent configuration | 03:05 |
| Delvien | BF2 takes alot out of wireless, that 108mb isnt as stable as wired | 03:05 |
| gdh | kairu0: hehe fair enough :) | 03:05 |
| kairu0 | :) | 03:05 |
| kairu0 | but the problem thats more pressing than that is that i cant type spanish accents although i can type french | 03:06 |
| kairu0 | i have a problem with "dead" keys | 03:06 |
| nalioth | kairu0: put the "character palette" into your panel | 03:06 |
| nalioth | kairu0: it's a panel applet | 03:06 |
| kairu0 | nalioth, i'd rather use the keyboard | 03:06 |
| kairu0 | and i CAN type them in gtk apps..just not in qt. | 03:07 |
| kairu0 | one time i saw an error about an unresolved symbol in qt3 keyboard.so | 03:07 |
| gdh | Is 'Alt Gr' not your 'Compose' key? e.g. pressing AltGR and = then c not give you ? | 03:07 |
| kairu0 | what is Alt Gr? | 03:08 |
| gdh | the 'right alt' key | 03:08 |
| kairu0 | nope it doesnt | 03:08 |
| kairu0 | it gives me backslash | 03:08 |
| gdh | maybe I've pished about with settings then :) | 03:09 |
| gdh | You can certainly make AltGR your Compose key in kcontrol | 03:09 |
| gdh | (I use GNOME now but I like this channel better than #ubuntu :) | 03:09 |
| kairu0 | i need to type all sorts of accents though | 03:10 |
| kairu0 | like | 03:10 |
| gdh | Yeh, compose is the gateway to just about every accent you could want | 03:10 |
| kairu0 | 03:10 | |
| kairu0 | ok here goes | 03:10 |
| gdh | altgr+ and ; or ' or # then the letter will put the appropriate accent on .. | 03:10 |
| kairu0 | i choose Right Alt is Compose in KDE keyboard config | 03:11 |
| kairu0 | its not doing anything | 03:12 |
| gdh | I have a UK keyboard so ; ' # are the three keys between L and Return... | 03:12 |
| gdh | I press ALTGR+' then release altgr then press e ... | 03:12 |
| kairu0 | altgr+ ; doesnt produce anything | 03:13 |
| gdh | correct, altgr+; only selects the accent type - you need to press an accentable key afterwards. | 03:13 |
| gdh | if that fails.. then I don't know.. "It works for me!" :/ | 03:13 |
| gdh | perhaps the app needs to be restarted, but I shouldn't have thought so. | 03:14 |
| kairu0 | so i type altgr + ; then i push e? (for example) | 03:14 |
| gdh | yes. | 03:14 |
| gdh | 03:14 | |
| gdh | is exactly what I get... | 03:14 |
| kairu0 | no go | 03:15 |
| kairu0 | maybe i have to use a different keymap | 03:15 |
| kairu0 | its set to spanish right now | 03:15 |
| gdh | Hm that could well be affecting it - I don't know :) | 03:15 |
| kairu0 | ok thnkx | 03:15 |
| kairu0 | gonna try something | 03:17 |
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| kairu0 | hey all | 03:49 |
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| murtaugh | hey I want to run this "syndaemon -d" everytime i boot, what file do I add that too? | 03:52 |
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| kairu0 | murtaugh, can that be run as a non-root user? | 04:04 |
| murtaugh | no I don't believe so | 04:04 |
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| murtaugh | let me try | 04:05 |
| halibut | kubuntu vs mepis? | 04:05 |
| kairu0 | murtaugh, if it has to be root, i'd add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh | 04:05 |
| murtaugh | kairu, yes actually you can | 04:05 |
| kairu0 | oh ok | 04:05 |
| kairu0 | murtaugh, then add it to your .bashrc in your home folder | 04:05 |
| murtaugh | oh ... . duh.... | 04:05 |
| murtaugh | thanks :) | 04:05 |
| kairu0 | or easier yet, | 04:06 |
| kairu0 | to your .kde/Autostart folder | 04:06 |
| murtaugh | alright, thanks! I think i did it the most difficult way possible, I added a new entry to init.d | 04:06 |
| gdh | murtaugh: Ah you did it the classic proper way :) well done :) | 04:07 |
| kairu0 | you are a true asset to the royal air force | 04:08 |
| gdh | mm? | 04:09 |
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| kairu0 | halibut, what did you want to say? | 04:09 |
| halibut | kairu0, how do the two compare? | 04:09 |
| kairu0 | halibut, that depends on who you ask :) | 04:10 |
| nalioth | halibut: i believe you want to ask in #freenode, since you're most likely gonna get a biased answer here | 04:10 |
| kairu0 | halibut, kubuntu detected all my hardware. mepis missed my video card, sound card, monitor, and network card | 04:10 |
| halibut | kairu0, 0o | 04:11 |
| halibut | Mepis picked up all my hardware fine? | 04:11 |
| halibut | odd | 04:11 |
| kairu0 | it depends on the hardware i think | 04:11 |
| halibut | don't they have the same hardware detection? | 04:11 |
| nalioth | they do not | 04:12 |
| gdh | possibly kudzu versus discover2 | 04:12 |
| nalioth | mepis, iirc is done by one guy or a small team | 04:12 |
| kairu0 | i dunno. i just know that mepis didnt catch mine | 04:12 |
| nalioth | ubuntu has dozens of developers | 04:12 |
| kairu0 | kubuntu has a great user called kairu0; mepis does not | 04:12 |
| gdh | :)) | 04:12 |
| gdh | kairu0: And very modest too :) | 04:12 |
| kairu0 | and gdh, who is any asset to the royal air force | 04:13 |
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| kairu0 | lol | 04:13 |
| kairu0 | i think kubuntu has the brighter future as i look at how fast it grows and compare it with mepis on distrowatch | 04:13 |
| gdh | Why on earth do you associate me with the RAF ? I'm just a computer geek =) | 04:13 |
| kairu0 | on the other hand, mepis has a pyramid | 04:14 |
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| halibut | Can you expain how the switch user item on the kmenu works in kubuntu? | 04:14 |
| kairu0 | i can't | 04:14 |
| gdh | halibut: It starts another completely seperate X session on another virtual terminal | 04:15 |
| gdh | halibut: as the help box says, you switch between them using ctrl-alt-f7 and ctrl-alt-f8 | 04:15 |
| halibut | does it just do the same as "start new session" | 04:15 |
| laszlok | has anyone been able to get kmid working? | 04:15 |
| gdh | I believe so, yes. | 04:15 |
| halibut | gdh, I don't actually have kubuntu install, I just saw it in screenshot | 04:15 |
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| gdh | halibut: I use GNOME, personally :) | 04:16 |
| gdh | I just like this channel more :) | 04:16 |
| gdh | and I used KDE for the last 2 years, so I know the odd thing about it. | 04:16 |
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| kairu0 | gdh, now that i know that, you arent an asset to the RAF anymore | 04:16 |
| gdh | :D | 04:16 |
| gdh | IRC is truly full of weird people :) | 04:17 |
| kairu0 | AOL mode: | 04:17 |
| kairu0 | oMG YOO USED KKDEEE 4 2 YRZZZ? | 04:18 |
| gdh | omglolwtfyzyzyzy!!!11111!!!!11oneeeleven!!1111 | 04:18 |
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| kairu0 | hahahaha | 04:18 |
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| halibut | What is a model of soundcard compatible with kubuntu that has midi in and out? | 04:20 |
| regeya | really disappointed in novell/suse | 04:20 |
| gdh | heh, getting rid of their KDE people to focus on GNOME? :) | 04:21 |
| gdh | can't say I blame them from a business point of view- no point in splitting their efforts, really. | 04:21 |
| regeya | gnome looks nice, has some competent apps, but it seems really lackluster, and seems to be lacking. but that's just my opinion | 04:21 |
| regeya | plus there's the legally dodgy position of mono | 04:21 |
| Niomi | okie... here's an annoying question.. my print screen button is AWOL. is there a screenshot manager for KDE, and how can I get to it? | 04:22 |
| gdh | mono's nothing to do with GNOME, really :) | 04:22 |
| gdh | Niomi: Yes, it's called 'KSnapshot' | 04:22 |
| regeya | look at the number of mono gnome projects popping up, though. | 04:22 |
| kairu0 | regeya, gnome seems more "welcome to 1999" then kde | 04:22 |
| firephoto | don't forget the overly huge toolbar buttons.... | 04:23 |
| regeya | http://www.gnome.org/projects/f-spot/ <- nothing to do with gnome, eh? | 04:23 |
| gdh | KDE is great for people obsessed by 'theming' - GNOME is great for people who just want to get some work done. | 04:23 |
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| Niomi | thanks, i found it gdh :D | 04:23 |
| kairu0 | kde is good for people who like integration | 04:23 |
| gdh | Niomi: Cool :) | 04:23 |
| firephoto | gdh: maybe if you use one app that doesn't need to talk to any other app.... lol | 04:23 |
| regeya | gdh: I thought that for a time. | 04:23 |
| Niomi | well, so far i actually like gnome better, but KDE has better support for laptop hibernation so i use it a lot.. i can see myself getting used to it, though. | 04:24 |
| regeya | gdh: I looked at how often I resorted to firing up a term in both desktops, and I did it less while using kde. so for me, kde won. | 04:24 |
| gdh | mm? GNOME's integration is pleasant... e.g. OpenOffice can read/write directly to gnome-vfs "smb://" shares | 04:24 |
| kairu0 | regeya, i second that | 04:24 |
| Niomi | i like the options KDE has, but i like gnome's look a bit better.. i love konquerer though | 04:25 |
| regeya | I don't mind doing things from terminal, in fact I keep a term open all the time on os x. but why should I have to resort to, for example, burning video DVDs from a term? | 04:25 |
| kairu0 | i like how gnome has been putting off memory usage optimizations since the reagan administration | 04:25 |
| Niomi | LoL | 04:25 |
| gdh | Yes, RAM is so expensive thesedays :) | 04:26 |
| regeya | personally, I use the Web window scheme, the crystal icons, and the light3 widget style. | 04:26 |
| regeya | poor excuse, gdh. | 04:26 |
| gdh | hehhe :) | 04:26 |
| gdh | I'm about to go to bed - I'm only trolling =) | 04:26 |
| regeya | gdh: heh. though the...hang on. | 04:26 |
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| kairu0 | light3 huh.. i'm gonna look that up | 04:27 |
| regeya | gdh: in all seriousness, I've seen that the gnome folks are working on memory usage. | 04:27 |
| Niomi | i was unsucessful installing new KDE themes -- does anyone want to recomend a newbie page for it? | 04:27 |
| kairu0 | gdh, you dont have to go to bed if you say that qt is your momma | 04:27 |
| gdh | <nod> stuff like 20M for a trashcan applet are a bit stupif... | 04:27 |
| regeya | I think once they figured out that their nice, light, simple, featureless gnome desktop took up more ram than winxp | 04:27 |
| regeya | they should work on it | 04:27 |
| regeya | I should have finished that all on one line | 04:27 |
| gdh | I like GTK and Qt each for different reasons, and there I'll leave it, for my eyes are already closing. | 04:27 |
| regeya | 'night | 04:28 |
| gdh | nna | 04:28 |
| firephoto | Niomi: I always ran into issues trying to install whole "themes". | 04:28 |
| kairu0 | regeya, is light3 on kde-look? | 04:29 |
| Niomi | firephoto, i'm glad i'm not the only one. :) | 04:29 |
| regeya | hang on...it ships with kubuntu. Light Style, 3rd edition | 04:29 |
| regeya | it's ultra-simple. | 04:29 |
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| kairu0 | you werent kidding | 04:30 |
| regeya | kairu0: reminds me of one of the old default gnome themes | 04:30 |
| firephoto | that widget has been around forever hasn't it? | 04:30 |
| regeya | indeed it has. | 04:30 |
| regeya | I used 'motif' forever | 04:31 |
| firephoto | someone should make a gnome theme for kde..... run some user tests.... heh | 04:31 |
| kairu0 | i use plastik | 04:31 |
| regeya | even after better theming came out, I used the kde1 windowborder and motif style | 04:31 |
| Niomi | okay, more newbie questions: i have this panel on the top that seems to be functioning as a menu bar. how do i get rid of it and get the menus to act normally? | 04:32 |
| Niomi | screenshot: http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/ | 04:32 |
| Niomi | errr, wrong copy and paste | 04:32 |
| Niomi | http://img492.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hug8af.jpg | 04:32 |
| Niomi | sorry. | 04:32 |
| regeya | and back then, gnome was largely for the eyecandy freaks! | 04:32 |
| firephoto | ok a question.... is media:/ broke on a default install? I plug my usb stick in and I get an error in the konq window that pops up but it is mounted at /media/usbdisk/ | 04:33 |
| regeya | in fact.../me switches back to kde1/motif/kde2-colorscheme...mwahahahahaha! | 04:34 |
| firephoto | Niomi: you have the menu bar enabled i do believe.... | 04:34 |
| regeya | WELCOME TO 1997 | 04:34 |
| kairu0 | niomi: system settings -> Desktop -> Behavior -> "Menu Bar at Topi of Screen" - None | 04:34 |
| Niomi | oooh thank you! i looked everywhere for that setting, i must've overlooked it | 04:35 |
| kairu0 | Niomi, np | 04:35 |
| regeya | now if only I could find those pre-1.0 icons | 04:37 |
| regeya | and of course I'll need to disable antialiased fonts to complete the effect | 04:38 |
| regeya | you know, back when I had a slightly-out-of-focus 15-inch monitor, motif didn't look bad | 04:38 |
| kairu0 | lol | 04:38 |
| regeya | nowadays, though...dang. | 04:39 |
| regeya | and there was another motif style, one that matched default pre-rasterman-ized gtk1 better. | 04:42 |
| regeya | what was that called... | 04:42 |
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| murtaugh | what is gam_server its thrashing my cpu cycles | 04:43 |
| nalioth | murtaugh: it's a filesystem monitor, and it's a known bug | 04:47 |
| murtaugh | nalioth, thanks | 04:47 |
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| Niomi | yes, now that i've played around with it i am definatly becomming fond of KDE | 05:06 |
| firephoto | don't tell the big N guys that. | 05:06 |
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| Niomi | does anyone want to recomend a nice dark theme? :) | 05:08 |
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| nalioth | Niomi: the console? | 05:09 |
| firephoto | i think there's one included... it's dark but I don't know how nice it is.... heh | 05:09 |
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| Niomi | nalioth: yes, good point.. i'm doing my homework, promise ;) | 05:12 |
| juanpa | hello. how can i get help with openoffice.org? | 05:14 |
| Niomi | which setting do i go to to change the tooltip? | 05:14 |
| nalioth | juanpa: better to just ask a question | 05:15 |
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| sambagirl | test | 05:18 |
| crimsun | success | 05:18 |
| sambagirl | ok | 05:19 |
| sambagirl | i switch from gnome to kde | 05:19 |
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| sambagirl | i do this mainly becaues i wanted to enjoy the many applicatoins kde has to offer. | 05:20 |
| sambagirl | there are many i notice. | 05:20 |
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| sambagirl | however, i am having difficulties with streaming. | 05:20 |
| Tm_T | KDE <3 | 05:20 |
| Tm_T | sambagirl: go on | 05:20 |
| nalioth | sambagirl: you can use kde apps under gnome and gnome apps under kde | 05:20 |
| juanpa | nalioth: Here's my question. I've just installed Ubuntu 5.10, and in Openoffice 2.0 when I do File > Wizards > Install new dictionaries nothing happens. What can I do to get the wizard working? | 05:20 |
| Tm_T | nalioth: but to get full benefit from KDE apps... | 05:21 |
| sambagirl | well | 05:21 |
| nalioth | Tm_T: that is true | 05:21 |
| nalioth | sambagirl: use kubuntu for a while and see which DE you like best | 05:22 |
| nalioth | juanpa: can you install new dictionaries using adept? | 05:22 |
| Tm_T | sambagirl: you was talking about streaming problem... | 05:22 |
| sambagirl | well the reason i switch to kde is because when i use synaptic to install things, it said he woudl remove things and i did that for things and lo and behold i could not logon again to the computer for the gui so i end up reinstalling ubuntu 3 times now. so i decide to just use 1 or the other in the beginning or such. | 05:22 |
| laszlok | juanpa: I'm not sure, I think its broken for some reason | 05:22 |
| kkathman | allo all :) | 05:23 |
| laszlok | juanpa: But all its supposed to do is load a file called dicOOo | 05:23 |
| laszlok | juanpa: you can download the dictionary installer here: http://ftp.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/dictionaries/dicooo/DicOOo.sxw | 05:23 |
| sambagirl | anyway helix does not do anything and so i install realplayer to compliment it but it still does not do anything. frustraiting. | 05:23 |
| juanpa | laszlok: Many thanks. I'll try to and get back to you. | 05:24 |
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| sambagirl | i'm trying to listen to music. another thing when i try to install VLC it says to edit a file so i do but to my surprise the file is empty. is that normal? don't ask me the file i dont recall it's name now. but it was a .list file | 05:25 |
| kkathman | yo laszlok how goes it? | 05:26 |
| sambagirl | when i install things there are no icons for them or they dont appear under the correct drop down dialog box either. why is that? | 05:26 |
| laszlok | kkathman, it goes well | 05:27 |
| nalioth | sambagirl: you mean a sources.list? vlc is in the repos waiting for you | 05:27 |
| kairu0 | sambagirl, are they kde things? | 05:27 |
| nalioth | !info vlc | 05:27 |
| ubotu | vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB | 05:27 |
| laszlok | kkathman: what part of the world are you in? | 05:27 |
| nalioth | sambagirl: vlc is in universe | 05:27 |
| wotnarg | anyone know how to unblock on kopete? | 05:27 |
| sambagirl | well some are kde things and i know it's waiting form ime | 05:27 |
| sambagirl | vlc or videolan is wonderful. | 05:28 |
| sambagirl | wonderful. i want to do broadcasting but it's to complicated to setup | 05:28 |
| kairu0 | sambagirl, if its kde it should appear in the menu within a few minutes or after a logout and login | 05:28 |
| sambagirl | ok here is a real basic question and then i can rest my keyboard for this time. | 05:28 |
| sambagirl | is there a way to save my x-chat setup with servers and channels so i can launch later and it goes to them automatically? then i have time to put my thoughts down and ask better questions. | 05:29 |
| Tm_T | sambagirl: xchat? don't ask any help from me... | 05:30 |
| laszlok | wotnarg: are you using MSN in kopete? | 05:30 |
| Tm_T | laszlok: I am | 05:30 |
| sambagirl | ok no problem | 05:30 |
| wotnarg | laszlok: aim | 05:30 |
| Tm_T | sambagirl: just that, I feel xchat somewhat pain in my ass ;) | 05:30 |
| Tm_T | sambagirl: why don't you try Konversation? | 05:30 |
| icewt | sambagirl: err.. do you mean just autojoining to channels? | 05:30 |
| sambagirl | to be honest ubuntu is complete with everything you need just has learning sharp leaning curve | 05:31 |
| nalioth | sambagirl: yes, edit your server list | 05:31 |
| sambagirl | what is konversatoin? | 05:31 |
| Tm_T | sambagirl: KDE irc-client | 05:31 |
| ilba7r | sambagirl server list then press edit | 05:31 |
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| laszlok | wotnarg: To unblock using msn is as simple as right-click (on contact), then go to the bottom item menu, and select unblock user | 05:32 |
| sambagirl | well i'll be i saw that but i do not know what it was but thanks i'll try it now. | 05:32 |
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| sambagirl | tha was fast | 05:34 |
| sambag | test | 05:34 |
| sambagirl | what do people prefer? | 05:34 |
| sambag | this looks so different. | 05:35 |
| icewt | you mean better?-) | 05:35 |
| sambagirl | haha | 05:35 |
| sambagirl | well xchat has buttons for functions | 05:35 |
| wotnarg | laszlok: For aim, theres no option to do that. | 05:36 |
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| icewt | sambagirl: what functions do you mean exactly? | 05:36 |
| sambagirl | T N S I P M B K L | 05:36 |
| sambagirl | for channel settings at the top | 05:36 |
| sambagirl | next to title for channel | 05:37 |
| icewt | sambagirl: channel modes? those can be enabled in settings | 05:37 |
| laszlok | wotnarg: settings --> configure --> accounts --> modify --> contacts | 05:37 |
| sambag | can you do multiple servers? | 05:37 |
| sambag | yes | 05:37 |
| icewt | yes | 05:37 |
| sambagirl | it's faster | 05:37 |
| sambagirl | ,aube | 05:37 |
| sambagirl | maybe | 05:37 |
| sambagirl | well thank you for the enlightenment | 05:37 |
| laszlok | wotnarg: tell me if it works, i don't actually have a aim account to test it out | 05:37 |
| sambagirl | i did not even know it was there. | 05:38 |
| mrmarcel | gn8 | 05:38 |
| sambag | can you have multiple servers open for multiple channels? | 05:38 |
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| wotnarg | laszlok: I get to the accounts part, but if I click to modify an account, there is no contacts option. | 05:38 |
| icewt | sambagirl: yes | 05:39 |
| sambagirl | well since i am in the kde channel what are these other applications? they are just acronyms wiht no icons. | 05:39 |
| sambagirl | kopete kppp krdc krfb | 05:40 |
| sambagirl | ppp probably for dsl connectoin | 05:40 |
| laszlok | wotnarg: Sorry, im not sure if its possible then | 05:40 |
| wotnarg | laszlok: *nod* Thanks. | 05:41 |
| sambagirl | ubuntu is masterpiece almost as wonderful as being on an amiga. | 05:41 |
| icewt | sambagirl: all of those should have icons. there should be also descriptions for them | 05:41 |
| sambagirl | ahh kopere is like gain | 05:42 |
| sambagirl | kopete | 05:42 |
| Tm_T | Kopete <3 | 05:42 |
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| Tm_T | sambagirl: no, not "like gaim" !! | 05:42 |
| Tm_T | Kopete is soooo much better | 05:43 |
| Tm_T | ;) | 05:43 |
| Tm_T | breakfast -> | 05:43 |
| sambagirl | it looks nicer true | 05:43 |
| sambagirl | breaklfast? lol | 05:44 |
| Tm_T | what's funny in it? | 05:44 |
| Tm_T | ... | 05:45 |
| icewt | "Breakfast <3" ;) | 05:45 |
| Tm_T | yes | 05:45 |
| Tm_T | breakfast <3 | 05:45 |
| Tm_T | ;) | 05:45 |
| icewt | :) | 05:45 |
| Tm_T | 06:45 here | 05:45 |
| Tm_T | I really need it -> | 05:45 |
| regeya | wow, an ubuntu-amiga comparison. weird. | 05:46 |
| regeya | then again, that's comparing gnome-amiga. | 05:46 |
| regeya | meh. | 05:46 |
| sambagirl | well i am going to try to install ubuntu on an amiga. | 05:46 |
| sambagirl | should work | 05:46 |
| regeya | if gnome is comparable to amiga os, I wonder what all the fuss was about with the amigas...;-) | 05:46 |
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| nalioth | sambagirl: you go grrl! | 05:47 |
| sambagirl | well amiga has CLI | 05:47 |
| regeya | or perhaps it says somethign good...amiga 1988 == gnome 2005 | 05:47 |
| sambagirl | i'll let you know how it goes | 05:47 |
| sambagirl | with amigaone it is ppc so it should be able to use ubuntu ppc version. | 05:48 |
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| sambagirl | i just discover JuK | 05:50 |
| sambagirl | how cool | 05:50 |
| nalioth | sambagirl: in a couple of months you can discover xubuntu | 05:51 |
| sambagirl | xubuntu? | 05:51 |
| sambagirl | i know xwindows | 05:51 |
| sambagirl | i have used linux 1.0 slackware before. | 05:52 |
| nalioth | !xubuntu | 05:52 |
| ubotu | methinks xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu | 05:52 |
| sambagirl | how do i configure the output i get no sound. | 05:52 |
| sambagirl | there are alot of operating systems out there. to numerous to expound on. | 05:52 |
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| sambagirl | output of sound is different for linux i see, you must set the output from defaulting to whatever i see. | 05:53 |
| sambagirl | is there some kind of applicatoin that has all kinds of dials and gadgets and things like that? somethign really spectacular to explore? | 05:56 |
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| icewt | i wonder what could such an applications possibly be | 06:04 |
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| Tm_T | Konqueror? ;p | 06:06 |
| sambagirl | i tell you in just a second. | 06:11 |
| sambagirl | visit www.salemradiolabs.com/rivendell | 06:13 |
| sambagirl | i have no idea how to install this. | 06:13 |
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| sambagirl | videolan is another masterpiece. | 06:15 |
| sambagirl | there are others too. | 06:15 |
| sambagirl | look at the gallery it says everything. | 06:15 |
| sambagirl | we have video toasters for amigas so that explain why i like these things. | 06:16 |
| sambagirl | what is SuSE? | 06:17 |
| icewt | another linux distribution | 06:17 |
| sambagirl | ok | 06:18 |
| sambagirl | thank you | 06:18 |
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| margouyab | hello | 06:19 |
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| sambagirl | hi | 06:20 |
| margouyab | i'm a newbie in linux and kubuntu | 06:21 |
| sambagirl | i tried to install amateur radio applicaotins in synaptic but i cannot find where they went after the install. | 06:21 |
| margouyab | and i've got a little problem | 06:21 |
| icewt | sambagirl: try typing their names in a terminal window | 06:22 |
| sambagirl | ok | 06:22 |
| sambagirl | what is your little problem margouyab? | 06:22 |
| margouyab | or properties in synaptic to know where the files was installed | 06:23 |
| margouyab | my desktop get wrong | 06:23 |
| sambagirl | your no newbie margouyab ;) | 06:23 |
| sambagirl | thank you | 06:23 |
| sambagirl | brb | 06:23 |
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| margouyab | actually i've got no link for my hdd and cdrom | 06:25 |
| margouyab | on the desktop | 06:25 |
| margouyab | but in the desktop settings i asked for that | 06:25 |
| icewt | the cdrom icon should appear when you insert a cdrom in a drive | 06:26 |
| margouyab | yesterday there was no problem but for last night i lost the link | 06:26 |
| icewt | did you upgrade some kde-stuff? | 06:27 |
| margouyab | i think so | 06:27 |
| margouyab | with synaptic i installed some stuff | 06:28 |
| icewt | well, some kde-updates did the same thing for me. don't really know why. but all the stuff can be found in /media | 06:29 |
| margouyab | yes i thound them here to | 06:30 |
| margouyab | but was it media:/ ??? | 06:30 |
| icewt | well, it shows a kde-view of mounted things. /media is the locations they are really mounted | 06:32 |
| margouyab | i've got a link who look for media:/ but it don't work anymore | 06:32 |
| margouyab | /media work yet | 06:33 |
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| sambagirl | ok my dad was a amatuer radio ham operator, is anyone using QSSTV? | 06:35 |
| margouyab | sorry i can't help | 06:35 |
| sambagirl | it's used for slow scan tv | 06:36 |
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| musik | can i use breezy debs on hoary???????? | 06:46 |
| tarheelcoxn | my google-fu is failing | 06:47 |
| tarheelcoxn | why might I be getting "Could not read title information for DVD" from kaffeine? | 06:47 |
| tarheelcoxn | I seem to have the correct packagesinstalled | 06:47 |
| tarheelcoxn | err | 06:47 |
| musik | can i use breezy debs on hoary???????? | 06:47 |
| tarheelcoxn | packages... installed | 06:47 |
| kairu0 | musik, it probably a bad idea | 06:47 |
| tarheelcoxn | musik: why not update? | 06:48 |
| tarheelcoxn | musik: try not to get your fingers stuck on the shift and / keys | 06:48 |
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| tarheelcoxn | ;) | 06:48 |
| sambagirl | when your using ubuntu for audio why is threre always a problem with an output sound device? i just install audacity and it says i have no playback device. i have a sound card, no? | 06:50 |
| musik | ok.....got that | 06:51 |
| sambagirl | xmms i had to change the output device to make it work, what is the issue with audacity? | 06:51 |
| sambagirl | anyone know? | 06:51 |
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| firephoto | sambagirl: you probably don't have hardware mixing on your sound card and there isn't a sound server running. kde has arts running usually. | 06:52 |
| tarheelcoxn | ahh... solved my own problem: should be /dev/hdc instead of /media/cdrom0 | 06:52 |
| tarheelcoxn | grrrr: libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys <--- is taking forever | 06:54 |
| sambagirl | ok thanks firephoto | 06:54 |
| Mason059 | Hi all. Anyone find KDM slow to come up after shutting down (ending session) after upgrading to Breezy? | 06:54 |
| firephoto | so i'm guessing it's a difference of kde running (thus arts) and it not running. . (just a guess though) | 06:54 |
| kairu0 | anyone had any larger bugs than the artsd problem with kde 3.5b2? | 06:55 |
| musik | Mason059: breezy IS slower than hoary....thats why ive gone back to hoary...feel much happier now.. | 06:55 |
| sambagirl | so in other words i am out of luck with audacity, no? | 06:55 |
| Mason059 | Hoary ran great...Breezy is good for the most part, although you're right about it being slower | 06:55 |
| Mason059 | I had a lot of trouble with x after upgrading, but seems to be OK now (except for sound in xgalaga) | 06:56 |
| icewt | sambagirl: try killall artsd | 06:57 |
| Mason059 | And of course kdm restart (which takes several minutes)...sometimes I have to login and startx | 06:57 |
| firephoto | kairu0: running it on gentoo without issue. (not that it's very relevant) ;) | 06:57 |
| sambagirl | ok i just did it icewt | 06:57 |
| sambagirl | now i can run it again? audacity? | 06:58 |
| icewt | sambagirl: yes | 06:58 |
| kairu0 | firephoto, lol | 06:58 |
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| firephoto | i wonder what the arts issue is with kubuntu packages? arts doesn't have any problem the way it's built in gentoo, seems like they'd build a new package for it..? | 07:00 |
| sambagirl | ok first i have to wait for this one to stop ;). i was trying to run 2 at same time. but this one is locked up. i try killall audacity but it still sitting there. | 07:00 |
| sambagirl | brb | 07:00 |
| icewt | sambagirl: killall -9 audacity | 07:00 |
| tarheelcoxn | how long should getting CSS keys for a DVD take? | 07:01 |
| sambagirl | that sure did it! | 07:02 |
| sambagirl | thanks | 07:02 |
| Mason059 | Does anyone know if the unofficial user guide has been upgraded for Breezy? Also, where might I find backports? | 07:02 |
| sambagirl | still not giving me an output device..drat | 07:03 |
| tarheelcoxn | I don't think backports exist yet | 07:03 |
| Mason059 | I thought so, but it never hurts to ask :) | 07:04 |
| tarheelcoxn | Mason059: see the last post in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=447499 | 07:05 |
| Mason059 | Thanks tarheelcoxn | 07:06 |
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| tarheelcoxn | np | 07:09 |
| tarheelcoxn | ugh | 07:11 |
| tarheelcoxn | dvd playback == fail | 07:11 |
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| tarheelcoxn | more accurately, libdvdcss == fail | 07:20 |
| sambagirl | ok a big problem i discovering with unix audio/video is decoders plugins why dont they include these things in the installs? | 07:25 |
| sambagirl | is this some license issues? | 07:27 |
| kairu0 | yes | 07:29 |
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| kairu0 | quicktime, real, wmv, they're all proprietary | 07:29 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | can someone help me with a mac os top panel question? | 07:47 |
| kairu0 | sure | 07:48 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, hi | 07:49 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, are u talkin to me? | 07:49 |
| kairu0 | yes | 07:50 |
| kairu0 | hi | 07:50 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, ok thx ...well when i add a system tray to the mac os panel the icons are to big for the bar...do you know how to shrink them or make the bar wider? | 07:51 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, im using the default crystal svg icons | 07:51 |
| kairu0 | you are talking about a kde mac-style top bar right? | 07:51 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, ya thats right | 07:52 |
| kairu0 | hang on let me try | 07:52 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, okie thx | 07:52 |
| Delvien | cntrl H to show hidden files right? | 07:52 |
| kairu0 | Sonny_Wertzik, my icons are the right size..and i dont see an option to change the icon size | 07:53 |
| kairu0 | Sonny_Wertzik, what if you make the panel bigger, and smaller again | 07:54 |
| Delvien | Anyone know how to map the volume button to Headphone jack as WELL as Master? | 07:54 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, really?? your sys tray icons fit in the bar without being cut off? | 07:54 |
| kairu0 | Delvien, maybe you'd need a second button for that | 07:54 |
| kairu0 | Sonny_Wertzik, yes. and my top panel is "normal" size | 07:55 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, i cant change the width of that panel at all | 07:55 |
| Delvien | kairu0 i have multimedia keys on my laptop , i just need to map the up down volume key to headphone jack too , not just master | 07:55 |
| kairu0 | Sonny_Wertzik, right click on the panel, configure, make it larger, then make it smaller again | 07:55 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, when i do that it just make my kicker bigger | 07:56 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, mac os panel stays the same | 07:56 |
| kairu0 | Sonny_Wertzik, right click on the panel at the top (the title bar) | 07:56 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, ok and i pick configure...then i pick normal and my kicker get big | 07:58 |
| kairu0 | Sonny_Wertzik, is your kicker on the top panel too? | 07:58 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, no | 07:59 |
| kairu0 | has your panel had correct icon sizes in the past? | 08:00 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, well i just tried to use the mac os panel for the first time so i dont know | 08:01 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, i have tried making the font bigger and it works but i have to make any fonnt like 16 | 08:01 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, btw im using kde 3.4.3 | 08:02 |
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| kairu0 | Sonny_Wertzik, this sounds like a problem that would go away if you logged out and logged back in | 08:02 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, yes i tried that ....no dice | 08:03 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, i must have screwed it up somehow | 08:03 |
| murtaugh | I just setup my flashdrive with an encrypted filesystem is there software for kde or gnome that automates the process of cryptsetup create , and mounting? | 08:03 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, it would be nice if i could set the size of the bar from confure | 08:04 |
| kairu0 | Sonny_Wertzik, i can find an option to do that | 08:05 |
| kairu0 | oops | 08:05 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, for the mac os bar? | 08:05 |
| kairu0 | can= cant :P | 08:05 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, oh hehe i thought i really screwed it up hehe | 08:05 |
| kairu0 | lol i dont know what it is | 08:06 |
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| kairu0 | have you changed konqueror icon sizes before? | 08:06 |
| murtaugh | nm I googled it, i swear I ask a question and 30 seconds later I have found the answer in google ;) | 08:06 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, yes | 08:06 |
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| kairu0 | Sonny_Wertzik, well, the panels might inherit icon settings from konqueror. i dunno | 08:07 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, ya i think trere must be a config file thats holding on to some setting i had before | 08:08 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, now if i can only find it hehe | 08:08 |
| Delvien | kairu0 do you know how to map the volume of the headphones to a button ? | 08:08 |
| kairu0 | Delvien, no, i only know how to make the kmix applet in the tray control a different channel | 08:08 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | kairu0, thx for the help... i really appreciate it. | 08:09 |
| Delvien | kairu0 how do i do that? | 08:09 |
| kairu0 | Delvien, right click the speaker, choose "select channel" | 08:10 |
| Delvien | kairu0 do i have to restart X? | 08:11 |
| kairu0 | Delvien, no | 08:12 |
| Delvien | kairu0 ah why i ask is because none of them are working for headphone | 08:12 |
| kairu0 | Delvien, on my laptop it all goes to "Front" | 08:13 |
| Delvien | kairu0 no matter what channel i select it always changes Master | 08:13 |
| Delvien | kairu0 i think there is something wierd with my mapping of my keys | 08:14 |
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| kairu0 | Delvien, could be | 08:14 |
| Delvien | kairu0 do you know where i change the mappings for volume ? they arent in system settings | 08:16 |
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| kairu0 | Delvien, thats funny cuz i looked for them about an hour ago in the hotkeys config. i swear they were there in the last kde | 08:18 |
| Delvien | aye gnome has them built in , but ever since i moved into KDE they have never had them | 08:20 |
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| Delvien | know how to reduce the amount of memory used in KDE ? | 08:24 |
| kairu0 | nuh uh | 08:27 |
| kairu0 | im working on the volume keys thing | 08:27 |
| Delvien | what is kio-http ? | 08:32 |
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| kairu0 | Delvien, i did it. i mapped my volume keys | 08:34 |
| Delvien | cool how | 08:34 |
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| kairu0 | Delvien, open up the volume control, then right click on the icon of the channel that you want to map | 08:36 |
| Delvien | hmm i mapped them still doesnt work , let me try and restarting X | 08:37 |
| kairu0 | it wont help | 08:37 |
| kairu0 | try a different combination | 08:37 |
| kairu0 | i used shift+f3 | 08:37 |
| Delvien | trying now | 08:37 |
| voicu | hey, it works :D, thanks | 08:37 |
| kairu0 | what works? | 08:38 |
| voicu | volume shortcuts | 08:38 |
| voicu | :D | 08:38 |
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| Delvien | hmm | 08:38 |
| voicu | i didn't know i could do that | 08:38 |
| kairu0 | oh sweet hehe | 08:38 |
| Delvien | it works with regular keys, but not my Volume up and down buttons | 08:38 |
| kairu0 | yeah its nowhere in the menus | 08:38 |
| kairu0 | Delvien, what brand is your laptop | 08:38 |
| Delvien | dell | 08:39 |
| kairu0 | hmm | 08:39 |
| kairu0 | there are special daemons for sony vaio and thinkpad keys, but i dunno about dell | 08:39 |
| Delvien | Mute, V down, V up, Play/pause, prev, next, stop , | 08:39 |
| Delvien | aye no one has writtin one | 08:39 |
| Delvien | ill play around with keyboard mappings, because the Dell one doesnt work for me | 08:41 |
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| Delvien | well it doesnt work, but i just mapped it to F11 and F12, guess no programmers own dell :P | 08:59 |
| Delvien | once i learn linux more, ill be the dell guy for drivers :P | 09:00 |
| Delvien | already dove into python, and have experience with C++ | 09:00 |
| Delvien | so hey. | 09:00 |
| Delvien | ty for your help kairu0 | 09:00 |
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| fatejudger | help, artds keeps crashing | 09:01 |
| fatejudger | where can I find the beta 1 repos? | 09:01 |
| Delvien | what player are you using | 09:01 |
| fatejudger | I need to get the old artds back | 09:01 |
| fatejudger | I'm not using a damn player | 09:01 |
| Delvien | can t you adept it | 09:01 |
| fatejudger | no | 09:01 |
| fatejudger | I need the old repos | 09:01 |
| Delvien | dont get an attitude | 09:01 |
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| propagandhi | fatejudger: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php | 09:04 |
| fatejudger | I found it already, thanks | 09:05 |
| fatejudger | I need to restart to get artds out of memory | 09:05 |
| propagandhi | fatejudger: ok, sorry | 09:05 |
| fatejudger | and to stop crashing | 09:05 |
| propagandhi | yeah, I had to go back from beta2 also | 09:05 |
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| fatejudger | ok, I need help quickly | 09:17 |
| fatejudger | I just tried to follow the ubuntu wiki | 09:18 |
| fatejudger | to get arts working in KDE 3.5 again | 09:18 |
| fatejudger | and I tried to remove libarts like it said | 09:18 |
| fatejudger | and replace it with the older one | 09:18 |
| fatejudger | but instead it's removing everything | 09:18 |
| fatejudger | and I mean EVERYTHING | 09:18 |
| fatejudger | along with libarts | 09:18 |
| fatejudger | apparently tons of package depend on libarts | 09:19 |
| fatejudger | *packages | 09:19 |
| fatejudger | but it stopped when it needed to stop kdm | 09:19 |
| fatejudger | so it's paused for the moment | 09:19 |
| fatejudger | what should I do? | 09:19 |
| fatejudger | is anyone not afk? | 09:21 |
| njk | i'm here, but I can't help you | 09:22 |
| njk | sorry | 09:22 |
| fatejudger | shit | 09:22 |
| fatejudger | well I'm wondering whether they're packages I can easily reinstall | 09:22 |
| fatejudger | I doubt it though | 09:22 |
| fatejudger | it's every package that needs sound through arts | 09:22 |
| fatejudger | which is pretty much every KDE application | 09:22 |
| fatejudger | stupid fucking rats | 09:23 |
| njk | hmm, maybe you could check the KDE forums, or a KDE irc channel | 09:23 |
| fatejudger | they're in my attic | 09:23 |
| fatejudger | 2 of them | 09:23 |
| njk | haha | 09:23 |
| njk | i have raccoons | 09:23 |
| fatejudger | it's scratching on the drywall above me | 09:23 |
| fatejudger | hold on, I'm going to bang on the wall | 09:23 |
| njk | k | 09:23 |
| fatejudger | lol | 09:24 |
| fatejudger | it stopped | 09:24 |
| fatejudger | oh damnit, it just started up again | 09:24 |
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| fatejudger | I swear, that rat is going to eat through this drywall | 09:24 |
| njk | hahah | 09:24 |
| njk | and poke his little head out | 09:24 |
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| fatejudger | crap, X is dying | 09:30 |
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| voicu | does he have any last wishes? | 09:34 |
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| fatejudger | ok, I'm in bitchx now | 09:38 |
| fatejudger | so now even though X went down I can still communicate | 09:38 |
| fatejudger | I'm trying to apt-get update to get the beta 2 packages back | 09:39 |
| fatejudger | but it's saying something about not having a public key | 09:39 |
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| fatejudger | public key is not available | 09:39 |
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| Zinoc | Just get the key here : http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg | 09:45 |
| Zinoc | And sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg | 09:46 |
| Zinoc | And it's good :) | 09:46 |
| libben | whats with amaroK? it takes like 50-60 % cpu | 09:48 |
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| Zinoc | He is maybe scanning your collection ? | 09:48 |
| libben | and it blinks the cursor in a steady interwall with globe on the pointer. and the equalizer in the bottom is stalling in the same pace as the pointer animation | 09:48 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: I have no web browser | 09:49 |
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| fatejudger | KDM died | 09:49 |
| Zinoc | wget it | 09:49 |
| fatejudger | wget? | 09:49 |
| fatejudger | I can't copy and paste | 09:49 |
| Zinoc | wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg | 09:50 |
| libben | hmm | 09:50 |
| libben | it only appears when im on the TAB "Current" | 09:50 |
| libben | if i choose home while the song plays it goes away. | 09:51 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: can you paste that command again? | 09:51 |
| fatejudger | the apt get one | 09:51 |
| Zinoc | Strange... never had this bug | 09:51 |
| fatejudger | I can't scroll up in BitchX | 09:51 |
| Zinoc | sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg | 09:51 |
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| Tallia1-KubuntuB | hi guys | 09:52 |
| Zinoc | Hi | 09:52 |
| Tallia1-KubuntuB | where i can find lecture files for ktouch? (typing training)..? | 09:52 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: the key thing worked | 09:53 |
| Zinoc | fatejudger: Great | 09:53 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: but all my packages are still missing | 09:53 |
| Tallia1-KubuntuB | ? | 09:53 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: even with an apt-get upgrade | 09:53 |
| Zinoc | Did you update ? | 09:53 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: well see, what happened is I deleted libarts in adept | 09:54 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: because it's this fix for KDE 3.5 | 09:54 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: but it deleted all the programs that were dependant on arts | 09:54 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: I don't know how to get them back | 09:54 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: unless I reinstall | 09:54 |
| Zinoc | Yes, download the broken arts packages, and you will fix it later | 09:54 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: which I was about to do | 09:55 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: yes, but all my packages are gone | 09:55 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: how do I get them back? | 09:55 |
| Zinoc | Can't you redownload them ? | 09:55 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: I can't remember them all | 09:55 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: there were so many | 09:55 |
| Zinoc | Try to get amarok-engines, it will download arts dependency | 09:56 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: maybe I could apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 09:56 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: no see, you don't get it | 09:56 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: it erased every last KDE program on my computer | 09:56 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: plus a few others | 09:56 |
| fatejudger | apt-get needs an undo | 09:56 |
| fatejudger | lol | 09:56 |
| Zinoc | :) | 09:57 |
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| Zinoc | And if you apt-get kubuntu-desktop, as you say ? Does it works ? | 09:57 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: I was about to try that | 09:57 |
| Zinoc | ok | 09:58 |
| morrow | ahhh kubuntu is now on mark shuttleworth desktop.. congrats ;-) | 09:58 |
| fatejudger | I might as well just reinstall | 09:58 |
| fatejudger | it has to install tons of stuff | 09:58 |
| fatejudger | it'll take me just as long | 09:58 |
| fatejudger | and this time I know what to do | 09:58 |
| Zinoc | As you prefer | 09:59 |
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| fatejudger | ok, thanks | 09:59 |
| fatejudger | reinstalling then | 09:59 |
| fatejudger | by the way | 09:59 |
| fatejudger | for future reference | 10:00 |
| fatejudger | how do I just replace a package | 10:00 |
| fatejudger | instead of uninstalling all the packages that depend on that package? | 10:00 |
| libben | Riddell: where have u hide the amarok packages? cause the new ones is not in repos. | 10:00 |
| Zinoc | I don't know how using apt-get, but if you download the .deb manually, just sudo dpkg -i package.deb | 10:01 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: and that will install over a newer package? | 10:01 |
| Zinoc | yes | 10:01 |
| fatejudger | Zinoc: okay, thanks :D | 10:01 |
| fatejudger | reinstalling... | 10:02 |
| Zinoc | even if you downgrade | 10:02 |
| Zinoc | Good luck :) | 10:02 |
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| _liquidbinary_ | Does anybody know how to play clanbomber? | 10:04 |
| kairu0 | no. but i love neverball and supertux | 10:04 |
| _liquidbinary_ | kairu0: I'll download and try | 10:05 |
| _liquidbinary_ | clanbomber seems to make no sense | 10:05 |
| kairu0 | _liquidbinary_, if you have a gamepad, neverball is awesome | 10:08 |
| _liquidbinary_ | kairu0: going to download it right now | 10:09 |
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| libben | anyone knows why the amaroK debs is not in the repos ? | 10:17 |
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| voicu | can someone tell me what command to use to install a .deb package? | 10:20 |
| Zinoc | sudo dpkg -i .deb | 10:20 |
| voicu | ok, thanks | 10:20 |
| Zinoc | np | 10:20 |
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| _buz | it displays my wlan but wont let me connect to it? | 10:22 |
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| libben | sudo make install or just make install forgot =) | 10:48 |
| libben | ./configure && make && sudo make install ? | 10:48 |
| kairu0 | the last one | 10:51 |
| kairu0 | make install is sudo because it copies the files to your OS's various folders | 10:51 |
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| libben | how do i install amarok from debs properly? cause ive downloaded the ones riddel made. amarok and arts and gstreamer. but when i dpkg -i it, it tells me it deps on gstreamer and arts and engines. but when i try to install those it tells me it needs deps amarok =) | 11:16 |
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| libben | ive uninstalled the amarok and arts and gstreamer that was installed from repos before i did this | 11:18 |
| voicu | when i run ./configure it says "no acceptable C Compiler found in $PATH" but i installed gcc 3.4 from kynaptic, what can I do? | 11:18 |
| voicu | anyone, pls? | 11:19 |
| bimberi | voicu: try installing the build-essential package | 11:19 |
| voicu | k, 10x | 11:20 |
| libben | how can i set deps while doing dpkg -i on debs ? | 11:21 |
| Zinoc | sudo dpkg -i *.deb where your amarok and engine debs are | 11:22 |
| bimberi | voicu: yw :) | 11:23 |
| voicu | uh, one more question, what do I use to install a .rpm? | 11:23 |
| libben | or sudo dpkg -i filename1.deb filename2.deb ? | 11:23 |
| Zinoc | You have to convert it in deb first, using alien | 11:23 |
| Zinoc | libben: yes | 11:23 |
| voicu | alien .rpm? | 11:24 |
| Zinoc | Yes, sudo alien .rpm | 11:24 |
| voicu | got it | 11:24 |
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| fatejudger | can I mount windows shares in the fstab in Breezy now? | 11:47 |
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| Tm_T | sure | 11:47 |
| Tm_T | mount <dev> | 11:47 |
| fatejudger | are you sure? | 11:47 |
| bimberi | !mountwindows | 11:47 |
| fatejudger | it isn't work in hoary | 11:47 |
| ubotu | mountwindows is, like, totally, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically) | 11:47 |
| Tm_T | it is/was | 11:48 |
| fatejudger | lol | 11:48 |
| fatejudger | *didn't | 11:48 |
| fatejudger | sorry, it's 3 AM here | 11:48 |
| fatejudger | kind of tired | 11:48 |
| Tm_T | user error then ;) | 11:48 |
| Tm_T | trust me, if you do all correctly, it does work just fine | 11:48 |
| fatejudger | wait | 11:50 |
| fatejudger | these are local | 11:50 |
| fatejudger | I need to mount networked windows shares | 11:50 |
| fatejudger | !mountwindowsshares | 11:51 |
| ubotu | fatejudger: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about | 11:51 |
| fatejudger | !samba | 11:51 |
| ubotu | samba is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently | 11:51 |
| fatejudger | that second one doesn't work | 11:51 |
| fatejudger | it's broken | 11:51 |
| fatejudger | and crappy | 11:51 |
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| libben | hows dapper comming ? any ground braking yet? | 11:58 |
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| fatejudger | !repos | 11:59 |
| ubotu | well, repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource | 11:59 |
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| fatejudger | why can't I mount Windows samba file shares? | 12:30 |
| fatejudger | it isn't working | 12:30 |
| fatejudger | !samba | 12:30 |
| ubotu | well, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently | 12:30 |
| fatejudger | that one | 12:30 |
| fatejudger | it doesn't work | 12:30 |
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| fatejudger | is everyone asleep? | 12:31 |
| fatejudger | I'd like to sleep | 12:31 |
| fatejudger | lol | 12:31 |
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| propagandhi | fatejudger: perhaps smb4k might be your thing | 12:32 |
| fatejudger | can it permanently mount network shares? | 12:32 |
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| fatejudger | samba wants a password when it tries to mount it at boot | 12:37 |
| fatejudger | and then it says "access denied" | 12:37 |
| fatejudger | but there is no password | 12:37 |
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| propagandhi | fatejudger: perhaps you could try setting an account, and you might need to edit the local security plicy on the windows PC | 12:38 |
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| fatejudger | propagandhi: why can't I log in anonymously? | 12:40 |
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| fatejudger | !samba | 12:40 |
| ubotu | somebody said samba was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently | 12:40 |
| propagandhi | fatejudger: does the windows computer allow guest logins, is the firewall on, does the local security policy on the windows machine allow acces | 12:40 |
| propagandhi | are the shares set to allow the 'Everyone' group access | 12:41 |
| propagandhi | all those factors can impact | 12:41 |
| fatejudger | yes | 12:41 |
| fatejudger | it all works | 12:41 |
| fatejudger | I can manually browse the samba network from KDE | 12:41 |
| fatejudger | but when I put it in the fstab | 12:42 |
| fatejudger | it wants a password | 12:42 |
| propagandhi | fatejudger: well, if thats the case, try using the administrators username and password. I dont permanently mount any of the shares I access myself I just access them as needed | 12:43 |
| fatejudger | propagandhi: there isn't any username and password | 12:44 |
| propagandhi | fatejudger: well create a new user then | 12:44 |
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| fatejudger | propagandhi: why do I need to do that? | 12:44 |
| fatejudger | propagandhi: why can't I just put in the command for anonymous logging in? | 12:44 |
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| propagandhi | fatejudger: because it is asking you for those details, if you do it you'll know whether its a solution or not | 12:45 |
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| Spudulike | How do I regain access to the web based CUPS admin tool? | 01:29 |
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| obontu | hey, i'm trying to install the kubuntu desktop package, but it's asking for my breezy cd, i don't have it atm, can't i d/l it instead? | 01:30 |
| Spudulike | obontu: Is this through synaptic or similar? | 01:31 |
| obontu | yes | 01:31 |
| obontu | synaptic | 01:31 |
| obontu | i'm currently using gnome | 01:31 |
| Spudulike | If you go into the repository admin section you can untick the call to CD. | 01:32 |
| obontu | oh right | 01:32 |
| obontu | silly me | 01:32 |
| obontu | thanx | 01:32 |
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| torc_ | is there any easy way to mount windows partitions and have access to them? | 01:57 |
| nalioth | ubotu: tell torc_ about mountwindows | 01:58 |
| torc_ | I've used a winmac_fstab script, and it doesn't seem to work correctly with Breezy because I now cannot access my NTFS partitions without being sudo -s... | 01:58 |
| torc_ | i appreciate the suggestion, but as I stated after your typing, i've tried it and it's screwed me over with permissions that can't change. Help? | 01:59 |
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| mth`MAW | Moinsen | 02:01 |
| mth`MAW | .dj | 02:01 |
| mth`MAW | Soory wrong channel | 02:01 |
| mth`MAW | :( | 02:01 |
| mth`MAW | Hello, everybody. I ment | 02:01 |
| mth`MAW | :) | 02:01 |
| voicu | what can i do if i have libssl0.9.7 but a program says it needs libssl0.9.6 and doesn't 'see' the newer version? | 02:03 |
| nalioth | torc_: that is a permissions issue in fstab | 02:03 |
| voicu | winmac_fstab asks you if you want to make the drives accessible by everyone | 02:04 |
| torc_ | nalioth: is there any way to reverse the winmac_fstab script? like "uninstall"it? | 02:04 |
| torc_ | i hit yes voicu | 02:04 |
| torc_ | but what if I hit no...is there a way I can change it? | 02:05 |
| voicu | look for /etc/fstab | 02:05 |
| nalioth | torc_: edit your /etc/fstab for the correct permissions | 02:05 |
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| torc_ | voicu: should I just delete that file? | 02:06 |
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| nalioth | torc_: if you delete your fstab, you've killed your system | 02:07 |
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| voicu | delete the lines that define your windows partitions | 02:08 |
| torc_ | nalioth: should I just delete the lines with the drives that I don't want to have show up and then re-run the script? because im not sure how to go about changing perms to what i want | 02:08 |
| voicu | probably the last lines | 02:08 |
| torc_ | ah k | 02:08 |
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| torc_ | there's a mount called proc on mine..? | 02:09 |
| torc_ | ? | 02:09 |
| nalioth | torc_: i can help you with that | 02:09 |
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| nalioth | torc_: open a konsole, please | 02:10 |
| torc_ | done | 02:10 |
| nalioth | torc_: now type kdesu kate /etc/fstab | 02:10 |
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| torc_ | mhmm | 02:11 |
| fatbrain | can I enable 'utf-8' in a terminal window? | 02:11 |
| fatbrain | (if that made any sense...) | 02:11 |
| Lathiat | fatbrain: should be enabled in konsole already | 02:11 |
| fatbrain | Lathiat: ok, perhaps it's just elinks that doesn't know how to display utf-8 text. | 02:12 |
| rikva | Can I set up my printer in Kubuntu so I can use it to print from another kubuntu machine? | 02:12 |
| Lathiat | fatbrain: quite possibly | 02:12 |
| Lathiat | fatbrain: try w3m perhaps | 02:12 |
| nalioth | fatbrain: or compile your elinks with utf-8 support | 02:12 |
| fatbrain | nalioth: good suggestion. | 02:13 |
| torc_ | nalioth: what next? | 02:13 |
| nalioth | torc_: on the line(s) with ntfs in them, make the "ro,users,pid=blah,uid=blah" say "ro,auto,umask=000" | 02:14 |
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| [t0rc] | # | 02:17 |
| [t0rc] | # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> | 02:17 |
| [t0rc] | proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 | 02:17 |
| [t0rc] | /dev/sda2 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 | 02:17 |
| [t0rc] | /dev/sda3 /home ext3 defaults 0 2 | 02:17 |
| [t0rc] | /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs defaults 0 0 | 02:17 |
| [t0rc] | /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs defaults 0 0 | 02:17 |
| [t0rc] | /dev/sda6 none swap sw 0 0 | 02:17 |
| [t0rc] | /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 | 02:17 |
| [t0rc] | /dev/hdb /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 | 02:17 |
| [t0rc] | /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 | 02:17 |
| [t0rc] | #Added by winmac_fstab utility | 02:17 |
| [t0rc] | /dev/sda5 /media/0\040GB\040Disk\040(sda5) vfat rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0 | 02:17 |
| [t0rc] | dammit. the exact thing i didn't want to do. | 02:17 |
| nalioth | holy cow | 02:17 |
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| [t0rc] | please forgive me, stupid mistake on my part. | 02:17 |
| {slacky} | hello | 02:18 |
| {slacky} | I'm trying to use KUbuntu | 02:18 |
| {slacky} | what is the ubuntu user password? | 02:18 |
| [t0rc] | your password | 02:19 |
| Lathiat | {slacky}: it is setup when you install | 02:19 |
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| peewee | hola | 02:21 |
| {slacky} | Lathiat: for the LiveCD | 02:21 |
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| {slacky} | I'm trying to change the screen resolution, but I can't | 02:21 |
| Lathiat | {slacky}: oh, there is no password | 02:21 |
| Lathiat | {slacky}: why not? | 02:21 |
| peewee | alguien ha tenido un problema con motif en Opera? | 02:21 |
| Lathiat | is it not in the list? | 02:22 |
| Lathiat | if not unfortunaely thats a bug in detection your monitor that takes a bit to fix | 02:22 |
| peewee | ... | 02:22 |
| {slacky} | Lathiat: well no it just tell me 640x480 | 02:22 |
| peewee | sorry | 02:22 |
| peewee | somebody had been a problem with Motif in Opera? | 02:22 |
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| martinjh99 | Guys is there a way of making the default settings for Konq the KDE ones and not Kubuntu? I seem to recall a wiki page... | 02:25 |
| nalioth | martinjh99: visit the faq at kubuntu.org | 02:25 |
| martinjh99 | ta! Will do. | 02:26 |
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| libben | I have some problems with a ftping... and it tells me over and over while im downloading from the ftp. that i need to retry login because of to many simultainously connections from my ip | 02:28 |
| libben | i wanna check what hogs it more then just konq. | 02:28 |
| libben | is there any way to sniff what hogs to that ftp server? | 02:28 |
| nalioth | libben: ethereal | 02:28 |
| {slacky} | but in with way I upgrade all the system against security bugs? | 02:30 |
| {slacky} | with adept? | 02:30 |
| voicu | if i reinstall a package from kynaptic will it look for the last version? | 02:31 |
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| voicu | i don't want to follow by myself the entire dependency tree that it needs | 02:32 |
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| nalioth | voicu: it will | 02:32 |
| nalioth | voicu: adept always uses the latest version, unless otherwise told not to | 02:33 |
| voicu | ok, thanks | 02:33 |
| voicu | why did you write in red, was that an annoying question? | 02:33 |
| nalioth | voicu: you see this in red? | 02:35 |
| nalioth | and this line is normal? | 02:35 |
| mornfall | hilight? | 02:35 |
| mornfall | :-) | 02:35 |
| voicu | yes | 02:35 |
| voicu | :) | 02:35 |
| nalioth | voicu: your client is telling you something. (people are talking about you) | 02:35 |
| voicu | aa | 02:35 |
| voicu | :)) | 02:35 |
| voicu | my client is very smart :)) | 02:36 |
| nalioth | now you just have to learn to preface nicks in front of your text | 02:36 |
| nalioth | so those people know who you are talking to | 02:36 |
| voicu | nalioth: like this? | 02:36 |
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| nalioth | voicu: like that exactly. on the larger busier channels, nick prefacing is almost required to carry on a conversation | 02:37 |
| voicu | nalioth: ok, i'll try to get use to it | 02:38 |
| nalioth | if you visit #ubuntu during a busy time, you'll see why it's necessary | 02:39 |
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| rumburak | i cant run Enemy territory with sound, someone has same issue ? | 02:44 |
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| tenco | hi all | 02:45 |
| tenco | how can i tell kopete that it should automatically reconnect when it is disconnected? | 02:45 |
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| rumburak | tenco: settings > moduls .. i dont have eng version, but there it is | 02:47 |
| tenco | rumburak: too. german version. | 02:48 |
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| tenco | rumburak: which module? | 02:48 |
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| rumburak | tenco: i write it in eng, i donno german ... read about all, nice features | 02:49 |
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| tenco | rumburak: hmm, yes. but i cant find the apropriate module for automatic reconnection. | 02:50 |
| rikva | I accidentaly borked my cupsd.conf. Where can I download the original (K)ubuntu version? | 02:50 |
| rumburak | tenco: connection state in english ;] | 02:50 |
| rumburak | tenco: fifth from bottom | 02:51 |
| tenco | rumburak: ah. but i cannot change the settings ?-( | 02:51 |
| rumburak | tenco: if u stay with cursor on that name, popup tell u what it works | 02:52 |
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| rumburak | tenco: how | 02:52 |
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| tenco | rumburak: ah. thanks. :) | 02:53 |
| rumburak | tenco: np | 02:53 |
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| obontu | hey, i just install kde on ubuntu for the 1st time, is there a cd ripper? | 03:05 |
| raphink | sure there is | 03:06 |
| apokryphos | kaudiocreator | 03:06 |
| raphink | you can even use konqueror as a cd ripper | 03:06 |
| obontu | really? | 03:06 |
| obontu | how? | 03:06 |
| raphink | which is what I do since it's really easy | 03:06 |
| apokryphos | yes; use the audiocd:/ kioslave | 03:06 |
| raphink | obontu: if you have an audio CD in your player | 03:06 |
| obontu | is there a package manager for kde? other than synaptic? | 03:06 |
| raphink | type | 03:06 |
| raphink | audiocd:/ | 03:06 |
| raphink | in the address bar | 03:06 |
| apokryphos | obontu: Adept is Kubuntu's Package Manager | 03:06 |
| raphink | you get a list of virtual encoded files, in virtual folders | 03:06 |
| raphink | obontu: there's adept, kynaptic, kpackage, kpkgmanager | 03:07 |
| obontu | where can i find all of those? | 03:07 |
| apokryphos | the only ones worth really using are adept or kpackage | 03:07 |
| raphink | obontu: to encode, you just need to take the virtual files from audiocd:/ and paste them somewhere on your hard drive | 03:07 |
| obontu | yeah i see tose virtual encoded files | 03:07 |
| obontu | really? kewl! | 03:07 |
| obontu | how do i change the quality? | 03:07 |
| raphink | I'm not sure you can set the quality with this method | 03:08 |
| raphink | at least I don't know how | 03:08 |
| raphink | never wondered | 03:08 |
| obontu | ok, so where can i find adpet and all those other package managers? | 03:08 |
| apokryphos | adept is already installed | 03:09 |
| apokryphos | KPackage you can get from the Universe repository | 03:09 |
| obontu | where in the menu i mean | 03:09 |
| apokryphos | obontu: guess; where would you put a package manager? ;-) | 03:09 |
| rumburak | simple question, how i can make my Kubuntu look super sweet ? some link ? ;] | 03:10 |
| apokryphos | rumburak: kdelook.org | 03:10 |
| raphink | rumburak: kde-look.org | 03:10 |
| obontu | found it thanx | 03:10 |
| raphink | http://www.kde-look.org | 03:10 |
| raphink | :) | 03:10 |
| libben | any good email klient in kubuntu and can i start kmail only without going to it thru kontact? | 03:10 |
| raphink | rumburak: there you'll find all you need to tune your distro | 03:10 |
| apokryphos | libben: KMail is the best | 03:11 |
| rumburak | thx all | 03:11 |
| apokryphos | and if you don't want to run it through kontact, then just alt+f2 -> kmail | 03:11 |
| obontu | kde looks really confusing after using gnome alot | 03:11 |
| apokryphos | perhaps; easy to get used to though | 03:12 |
| obontu | i suppose | 03:12 |
| apokryphos | consistency is pretty key in KDE apps | 03:12 |
| raphink | yes | 03:12 |
| obontu | what do you mean by that? | 03:12 |
| apokryphos | consistency in applications is maintained; i.e. menu structure, button usage, terminology etc etc | 03:13 |
| obontu | ah ok | 03:13 |
| obontu | where do i change the native lang.,.. i forgot :( | 03:13 |
| raphink | and integration too | 03:13 |
| raphink | kde apps are made to work with one another | 03:14 |
| apokryphos | yup | 03:14 |
| raphink | like | 03:14 |
| raphink | if you get a message from a contact on kmail | 03:14 |
| obontu | when i load "lang selector" it won't let me change to anything but english | 03:14 |
| raphink | it'll tell you whether this contact is online on kopete | 03:14 |
| rumburak | can i handle gmail with kmail ? | 03:14 |
| obontu | nice | 03:14 |
| raphink | obontu: did you install the i18n for your language? | 03:14 |
| apokryphos | KDEPIM itself is a testimony to great integration | 03:14 |
| raphink | rumburak: yes you can | 03:14 |
| apokryphos | rumburak: of course | 03:14 |
| obontu | il8n? | 03:14 |
| obontu | what's that? | 03:15 |
| raphink | i18n obontu | 03:15 |
| raphink | it's international packages | 03:15 |
| obontu | yes i think i did | 03:15 |
| obontu | oh there | 03:15 |
| obontu | now i can | 03:15 |
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| raphink | hmmm | 03:16 |
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| osh | where does webmin store it's password? It's not in /etc/passwords is it? | 03:21 |
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| spiral | hi | 03:34 |
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| martinjh99 | Anyone else only get the floppy disc in the Storage Media window?? | 03:46 |
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| libben | any good program for editing the informationi for mp3's im getting werid collection in amaroK with alots o unknown etc | 03:53 |
| nalioth | easytag | 03:53 |
| Juerd | Good to know there will probably be shipit cds for Kubuntu! | 03:55 |
| Juerd | HURRAH! | 03:55 |
| nalioth | Juerd: that's pleasing to hear | 03:55 |
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| voicu | when i want to install something with kynaptic, it says i have to uninstall a lot of other packages that i don't think i should uninstall (like Kubuntu desktop and English Language pack), what's the problem? | 03:59 |
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| jairbubbles | this package must be vital | 04:01 |
| _buz | can someone explain me why mark shuttleworth now uses kubuntu but initially funded ubuntu as gnome distro? | 04:01 |
| voicu | it's not vital, it's a game | 04:01 |
| jairbubbles | voicu: well there's dependancies problems | 04:01 |
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| nalioth | !kubuntu | 04:02 |
| ubotu | Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/ | 04:02 |
| nalioth | _buz: why does it matter? i use x/k/ubuntu all the time | 04:03 |
| _buz | i'm just wondering | 04:03 |
| Juerd | _buz: Probably a wrong understanding of ease of use. | 04:03 |
| Juerd | _buz: GNOME is easier to learn to use initially | 04:03 |
| _buz | i was trying to imagine where we'd be if ubuntu had been kde from day 1 | 04:04 |
| Juerd | _buz: KDE is easier to use once you're past that level of skill. | 04:04 |
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| _buz | i could never take gnome longer than 5min | 04:04 |
| _buz | but then again, i was using the console for years and years | 04:04 |
| Juerd | _buz: Because it felt limiting? | 04:04 |
| _buz | it's FUGLY | 04:04 |
| _buz | and dumbed down, yes | 04:04 |
| _buz | an incoherent mess | 04:04 |
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| _buz | it's like all of the bad parts of osx with none of the good parts ;) | 04:05 |
| Juerd | Hah | 04:05 |
| mornfall | _buz: it's bad parts of osx combined with windows ;p | 04:05 |
| _buz | i'd chose win over gnome any day | 04:06 |
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| threeseas | if you already have ubuntu breezy 5.10 then is there a way to make it kubuntu able instead of downloading the full kubuntu? | 04:10 |
| Juerd | Yes. | 04:10 |
| Juerd | Apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 04:10 |
| Juerd | s/A/a/ | 04:10 |
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| threeseas | thankyou | 04:11 |
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| _StarScream | question, is there any way under linux you can get it so that when you press the eject button on the cd drive that it will automagically unmount and eject ? | 04:16 |
| ep | Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth announced that he was now using Kubuntu on his desktop machine and said he wanted Kubuntu to move to a first class distro (according to /.) | 04:17 |
| _StarScream | ep: i just read that | 04:17 |
| _StarScream | sounds cool | 04:17 |
| ep | yeah | 04:17 |
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| tenco | someone using umbrello here? | 04:25 |
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| rumburak | how i can get registered here ? | 04:35 |
| Mez | what was the package to install for amarok MP3s ? | 04:35 |
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| Mez | libmad-ocaml ? | 04:37 |
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| kkathman | hello peeps :) | 04:50 |
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| metallic | hello | 05:01 |
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| kkathman | hi metallic :) | 05:02 |
| metallic | i have a problem, Xfce don't run on my Kubuntu, AMD64 computer. if i choice Xfce the screen becomes black. And it's return to login screen | 05:03 |
| metallic | it' s never happened to someone? | 05:03 |
| metallic | hi kkathman :) | 05:04 |
| Lathiat | metallic: check the file .xsession-errors | 05:05 |
| metallic | ok | 05:05 |
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| kkathman | hmm no never had that happen, but then I dont have an AMD64 that runs linux :) | 05:06 |
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| metallic | directory...? :) don't laugh please! eheh... | 05:06 |
| ep | yout got one that runs windows? | 05:06 |
| ep | locate .xessions | 05:07 |
| kkathman | metallic: that file should be in your home directory | 05:08 |
| metallic | ah ok... | 05:09 |
| kkathman | but you'll need to migrate to there with a cd | 05:09 |
| metallic | migrate to there whit a cd? | 05:10 |
| metallic | that file isn't my directory... | 05:10 |
| metallic | on my directory :) | 05:10 |
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| metallic | ah yes... Ubuntu + XFCE | 05:12 |
| metallic | but i like KDE, and gnome | 05:13 |
| metallic | i want a system with KDE, Gnome and Xfce | 05:13 |
| metallic | I don't find .xsession-errors on my home directory... | 05:14 |
| kkathman | metallic: its should be there...its a system file, so you'll need to ls -a to see it | 05:14 |
| kkathman | or navligate to /home/<yourname>/ and type ls -a | 05:15 |
| kkathman | or when you get there you can type cat .xsession-errors | 05:16 |
| kkathman | if there isnt anything there...thats a good thing. | 05:16 |
| metallic | I know, I have confused "ls -i" with "ls -a"... ups | 05:16 |
| metallic | it's very long... | 05:18 |
| kkathman | yah | 05:18 |
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| metallic | all of kde... various errors of kde | 05:18 |
| kkathman | I had to clean mine out hehe | 05:18 |
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| dante | Hola alguien que me ayude? | 05:19 |
| kkathman | dante: Ingles solomente por favor :) | 05:19 |
| dante | my inglish is fuck | 05:19 |
| dante | bueno gracias de todas formas | 05:19 |
| dante | bye | 05:19 |
| dante | :s | 05:19 |
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| metallic | boh... | 05:21 |
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| metallic | i found a ".xsession-errors-:1" but it's empty... | 05:23 |
| metallic | i have found | 05:23 |
| metallic | sorry, i'm not english! | 05:23 |
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| metallic | on a forum i have read an interessant post, it's responsability of kdm... "login console"!!!! :) | 05:29 |
| metallic | bye! | 05:29 |
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| bhna | hi | 05:45 |
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| kkathman | hey bhna :) | 05:47 |
| kkathman | wassup? | 05:47 |
| levi | kkathman: | 05:48 |
| levi | what up | 05:48 |
| kkathman | howdy levi :) | 05:48 |
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| kkathman | ahhh endo602 recognize you now :) | 05:48 |
| endo602 | sorry | 05:48 |
| endo602 | man | 05:48 |
| endo602 | im having trouble | 05:48 |
| kkathman | np | 05:48 |
| endo602 | with some stuff | 05:48 |
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| endo602 | but first | 05:48 |
| kkathman | whats wrong | 05:49 |
| endo602 | we had a baby boy this week | 05:49 |
| endo602 | that is not the problem | 05:49 |
| endo602 | the problemn is with playing dvds with vlc | 05:49 |
| kkathman | wow congratulations!!! My best and blessings to you and your family :) | 05:49 |
| endo602 | automounting my smd drives | 05:49 |
| endo602 | and auto mounting my usb | 05:49 |
| PJeremy | does xine play mpc? | 05:49 |
| kkathman | endo602: I think there are some bugs there...but workarounds also.. | 05:49 |
| endo602 | dvd? | 05:50 |
| kkathman | that automounting seems to be cropping upi | 05:50 |
| endo602 | ahhh | 05:50 |
| kkathman | the DVD thing shouldnt be tho | 05:50 |
| endo602 | what about the dvd | 05:50 |
| endo602 | i cant get it to play | 05:50 |
| PJeremy | libdvdcss2 installed? | 05:50 |
| kkathman | endo602: what version of VLC are you using | 05:51 |
| endo602 | 4.0.2 | 05:51 |
| kkathman | hmm | 05:51 |
| kkathman | really? | 05:51 |
| endo602 | too old? | 05:51 |
| PJeremy | no | 05:52 |
| kkathman | No I think thats wrong | 05:52 |
| kkathman | cuz the current vlc I think is 0.8 something and thats beta | 05:52 |
| kkathman | lemme check | 05:52 |
| kkathman | yah 0.8.4 | 05:53 |
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| endo602 | under version sasy 4.0.2 | 05:53 |
| NeOnRaBbIt | hey | 05:53 |
| endo602 | but somewhere else it says 0.8.4 | 05:53 |
| kkathman | yah | 05:53 |
| kkathman | did you install it yourself? | 05:53 |
| NeOnRaBbIt | just wondering, whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu? | 05:53 |
| PJeremy | endo602: right at the top of where you got 4.0.2 from ;) | 05:53 |
| kkathman | NeOnRaBbIt: Kubuntu = Ubuntu + KDE | 05:54 |
| kkathman | brb | 05:54 |
| NeOnRaBbIt | sorry, im new to linux, how is KDE better or different? | 05:54 |
| PJeremy | endo602: do you have libdvdcss2 installed? | 05:55 |
| endo602 | nah | 05:55 |
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| PJeremy | endo602: don't you need it for dvd playback? | 05:56 |
| endo602 | dont know | 05:58 |
| PJeremy | NeOnRaBbIt: it's not better, test the different windowing systems and pick the one you like best | 05:58 |
| endo602 | its not coming up on my adept | 05:58 |
| PJeremy | endo602: well, i'm pretty sure you do. | 05:58 |
| PJeremy | !sources | 05:58 |
| ubotu | A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic | 05:58 |
| kkathman | NeOnRaBbIt: KDE is another, very nicely configured, easy to tailor GUI for linux | 05:58 |
| endo602 | PJeremy: sorry man it aint here | 05:58 |
| kkathman | NeOnRaBbIt: go to www.kde.org to see examples | 05:59 |
| NeOnRaBbIt | alright ill check that out | 05:59 |
| PJeremy | endo602: i built my sources list with the sourceomatic, and its there. | 06:00 |
| NeOnRaBbIt | which would you say runs fastest? | 06:00 |
| PJeremy | NeOnRaBbIt: CLI | 06:00 |
| PJeremy | :p | 06:00 |
| NeOnRaBbIt | CLI? | 06:00 |
| PJeremy | command line interface.. | 06:00 |
| NeOnRaBbIt | oh | 06:00 |
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| kkathman | NeOnRaBbIt: THey all run fine, given the necessary resource | 06:03 |
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| kkathman | NeOnRaBbIt: For a decent system with enough memory, most people will prefer KDE over, say Gnome | 06:04 |
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| PJeremy | kkathman: i wouldnt say that.. | 06:04 |
| endo602 | doo | 06:04 |
| kkathman | In KDE you can run CLI simultaneous with the GUI | 06:04 |
| endo602 | d | 06:04 |
| DocTomoe | kkathman: have you ever heard of eterm? | 06:05 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: most people i know prefer gnome.. | 06:05 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: wouldnt say what? | 06:05 |
| kkathman | Its always personal preference, most people I know prefer KDE..so hehe | 06:05 |
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| DocTomoe | Can someone please enlighten me what that journal stuff in kontact is for? | 06:05 |
| claudiu | hello guys | 06:05 |
| kkathman | DocTomoe: yah eterm is a terminal emulator | 06:05 |
| relas | Anyone here who is able to support with a small problem in java programming? | 06:06 |
| kkathman | DocTomoe: for journaling I guess, if you are into that | 06:06 |
| claudiu | i am coming from gentoo and i have trouble using nvidia driver. can someone help ? | 06:06 |
| kkathman | relas: probably you should go to a java channel :) | 06:06 |
| PJeremy | relas: more likely to find someone in #java ;) | 06:07 |
| DocTomoe | hm, problems with KDE ... that korganizer documentation is from 2001 -_- | 06:07 |
| endo602 | PJeremy: still not there | 06:07 |
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| PJeremy | endo602: did you run sudo apt-get update? | 06:07 |
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| kkathman | PJeremy: I would submit that Gnome is better for many who are on a budget and are "hobbiests" that have older machines with less performant CPUs and memory . I still have a Gnome install here on my Dell p3 450 with 128MB | 06:08 |
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| endo602 | yes i did | 06:09 |
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| _claudiu | back again | 06:10 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: i'd rather use xfce or fluxbox or blackbox on older machines.. | 06:10 |
| _claudiu | i am an ex-gentoo user and I have big trouble with setting up nvidia driver | 06:10 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: what do you mean with "on a budget" ? | 06:10 |
| le_chat | me too, Claudiu :-( | 06:10 |
| endo602 | kkathman: the smb drives are automounted to /mnt/data\ | 06:11 |
| endo602 | data | 06:11 |
| endo602 | but not linked correction to the folders i orginally set that too | 06:11 |
| _claudiu | le_chat: maybe we will get som help here | 06:11 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: agreed, especially on low end machines...less overhead...but I think we'd agree, that since most distros install Gnome as default, that many people never bother to even look or install KDE so... again its just a preference | 06:11 |
| le_chat | i'll try, i'll try ;-) | 06:11 |
| kkathman | endo602: yes thats normal | 06:11 |
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| kkathman | PJeremy: On a budget...i.e. they want to use an "old" machine that has basically become a boat anchor to experiment or learn about Linux | 06:12 |
| NeOnRaBbIt | would you guys say ubuntu/kubuntu would be alright running on two pc's with 467 and 223mhz? or should i try a distro thats less beefy? | 06:12 |
| _claudiu | any "ubuntu guru" here or such ? | 06:13 |
| PJeremy | _claudiu: you may try #ubuntu as well | 06:13 |
| Juerd | _claudiu: Just ask your question. You'll find out if someone is guru enough. | 06:13 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: yea I'd agree with it being preference | 06:13 |
| kkathman | NeOnRaBbIt: ubuntu will be fine...I am running ubuntu on an old HP with only 96 MB memory | 06:13 |
| chakie | NeOnRaBbIt: depends on what you are satisfied with | 06:13 |
| _claudiu | Juerd: i have trouble setting up nvidia driver | 06:13 |
| chakie | enough memory and it will work fine | 06:14 |
| NeOnRaBbIt | yea i had xp pro on there before a friend of mine told me to try the switch | 06:14 |
| Juerd | _claudiu: Have you tried Google? | 06:14 |
| NeOnRaBbIt | one has 128 other with 64 | 06:14 |
| kkathman | NeOnRaBbIt: but in general, the older the machine, the more memory you need to run a GUI | 06:14 |
| _claudiu | PJeremy: nvidia driver wont work here | 06:14 |
| Juerd | afk | 06:14 |
| _claudiu | Juerd: i dont get an explicit error message | 06:14 |
| NeOnRaBbIt | see i would like to run command line only with no gui BUT, i know NOTHING of linux and its commands...well i wouldnt say nothing but very little | 06:14 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: WHAT??? Im running nVidia just file :) | 06:15 |
| PJeremy | _claudiu: i wouldn't know anything about nvidia ;) i have an ati. i just meant that you may try the ubuntu channel as well since the base system is the same | 06:15 |
| le_chat | I've got too a problem with NVidia Driver | 06:15 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: i don't have probs with nvidia ;) _claudiu does. | 06:15 |
| le_chat | I Dled it from 3W.NV.com | 06:15 |
| kkathman | In general ATI is linux unfriendly, but there are exceptions | 06:15 |
| _claudiu | Juerd: xorg dies when starting right after (II) Initializing extension GLX | 06:15 |
| kkathman | !nvidia | 06:16 |
| ubotu | rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368 | 06:16 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: heh, it's a good card and i don't play in linux... | 06:16 |
| _claudiu | ubotu: thanks , i tried many howtos, and right now i just removed any RESTRICTTED-MODULES, NVIDIA-GLX and such | 06:17 |
| ubotu | _claudiu: de nada | 06:17 |
| kkathman | right... but alot of people do, and they dont have your skill... | 06:17 |
| _claudiu | ubotu: as a gentoo user, i just don't get it. what it takes to have nvidia working | 06:17 |
| ubotu | I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, _claudiu | 06:17 |
| PJeremy | _claudiu: ubotu is a BOT ;) | 06:18 |
| _claudiu | PJeremy: okay. hope you're not | 06:18 |
| kkathman | _claudiu: ubotu is a bot...hehe search those links it suggested :) | 06:18 |
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| Mars | Hi | 06:18 |
| PJeremy | _claudiu: well, according to my last girlfriend..eh.. | 06:18 |
| kkathman | HI Mars :) | 06:18 |
| Mars | I have problem with kx docker | 06:18 |
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| Mars | I am very problematic person :) | 06:18 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: oh now thats not what I heard from her :) | 06:18 |
| endo602 | fixed the problem :) | 06:19 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: you and the rest of the football team ;) | 06:19 |
| Mars | So when i run kx docker there is a lot of unuseful (for me) icons like / /dev And i cant delete them | 06:19 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: exactly :) hehe ^5s | 06:19 |
| _claudiu | gentoo was a breeze with using nvidia | 06:19 |
| endo602 | now i gotta figure out how to automount the usb when i plug it in | 06:19 |
| _claudiu | gentoo IS a breeze with using nvidia | 06:19 |
| _claudiu | sorry | 06:19 |
| Le_Chat | I'll check the URLs, ty | 06:19 |
| kkathman | _claudiu: My system ran nvidia right out of the box | 06:19 |
| bhna | kxdocker is a monster | 06:20 |
| _claudiu | kkathman: i did dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server and the standard xorg.conf i got was useless | 06:20 |
| endo602 | ? | 06:20 |
| endo602 | bhna: how yo mena | 06:20 |
| kkathman | _claudiu: did you go to those links above? | 06:21 |
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| bhna | very user unfriendly | 06:21 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: do you know if xine play mpc files? | 06:21 |
| endo602 | true | 06:21 |
| _claudiu | kkathman: well one of them is an empty document | 06:21 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: no, I dont even enable sound on my box at all | 06:21 |
| bhna | endo602: many icons and no documenations. fullscreen windows going over kxdocker ... | 06:22 |
| kkathman | _claudiu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia | 06:22 |
| toko123 | greetiings | 06:22 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: i can't live without music | 06:22 |
| _claudiu | the other one seems to be a TEN PAGES HOWTO for setting up nvidia. Sorry, but this is stupid, there must be an automatic way to do this | 06:22 |
| toko123 | lsmod |grep snd shows sequencer but kdeinfo shows not enables? | 06:23 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: I have a multimedia Win system...for creating/composing music and video...so I kinda dont need one in Linux | 06:23 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: nice. i only have one pc.. | 06:23 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: I have 6 in my office here | 06:24 |
| kkathman | plus another 2 elsewhere | 06:24 |
| toko123 | snd_seq_device yes kdeinfo sound no? | 06:24 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: unfortunately they are split 3 linux and 3 windows :) | 06:24 |
| toko123 | snd_seq_device yes kdeinfo sound_sequencer no? | 06:25 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: nice. i probably will have more than one once i have a job, but for now i'm just a little student :) | 06:25 |
| _claudiu | kkathman: well it seems like this is going to be a pain. nvidia-glx has a 386 kernel as a dependancy | 06:25 |
| kkathman | well my multimedia Winbox is not "unfortunately" its gassed up pretty good for audio/video | 06:25 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: ever authored a dvd with menus in linux? | 06:26 |
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| _claudiu | kkathman: and all this legacy stuff forces me to use that 386 kernel. It seems like ubuntu needs much work | 06:27 |
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| kkathman | _claudiu: well, if ubuntu doesnt suit you, try another distro...there are hundreds :) | 06:28 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: yes | 06:28 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: cli only or with a gui ? | 06:29 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: but not normally...I have a colleague that does the post production for the most part now using a combo of Avid and some of the software he has | 06:29 |
| _claudiu | kkathman: i like ubuntu for being simpler to install but it fails with simple things like this tens of pages about setting up nvidia | 06:29 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: ohh not in linux at all | 06:29 |
| LeeJunFan | I think it's the non x64 things that need the work, not the OS, you shouldn't have to double up on libs for 32 bit stuff because 1-3 applications on a system are legacy. | 06:29 |
| _claudiu | kkathman: gentoo does it with > emerge nvidia-kernel and thats all | 06:29 |
| PJeremy | _claudiu: just curious, but why did you change distros? | 06:30 |
| kkathman | _claudiu: all I can tell you, is that for me...I put the CD in about a year ago, and it recognized my nvidia with no problems whatsoever, and Ive migrated through 2 major upgrades since then with NO problems | 06:30 |
| _claudiu | kkathman: PJeremy , sick of compiling for days for a simple word changed in the sources by the devs | 06:31 |
| kkathman | _claudiu: I never issued ONE command...the install recognized it...that seems better I think no commands :) | 06:31 |
| _claudiu | kkathman: do you have 3d acceleration, maybe you are running with "nv" driver ? | 06:32 |
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| PJeremy | _claudiu: that'd annoy me as well | 06:32 |
| kkathman | _claudiu: then switch to something else...or /join #ubuntu for the kernal/technical help...this is for kubuntu | 06:32 |
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| _claudiu | kkathman: thanks, i will try to get help on ubuntu | 06:32 |
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| _claudiu | kkathman: i was wondering . maybe if i would remove all the nvidia stuff and rm some tmp, will that do it ? | 06:33 |
| _juan | hola | 06:33 |
| _claudiu | kkathman: maybe i should rm manually some files and i dont knw which | 06:33 |
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| _juan | alguien habla espaol? | 06:33 |
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| bretzel | Hey! | 06:34 |
| bretzel | How to get a working tutorial on kbfx ???? I dunno nothing about this one and would like to make it run | 06:34 |
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| braineater | italiano? | 06:35 |
| kkathman | bretzel: http://www.linuxlots.com/~siraj/kde/plugin/home/index.php | 06:36 |
| bretzel | kkathman: oh! thanks alot ! :-) | 06:36 |
| kkathman | np | 06:38 |
| bretzel | kkathman: ??? It says NOTHING on how to make it run and how to install themes for it :-( | 06:40 |
| kkathman | bretzel: maybe trying Google ? | 06:40 |
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| Mars | Someone can help me with kxdocker? | 06:49 |
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| kkathman | kxdocker??? | 06:49 |
| Mars | E macOs docker | 06:49 |
| kkathman | Mars have you checked out: http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/main.php | 06:50 |
| Mars | njo | 06:50 |
| Mars | no | 06:50 |
| Mars | mean | 06:51 |
| Mars | yes | 06:51 |
| Mars | but what you mean? | 06:51 |
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| kkathman | I mean... typically the home page for the app has ALOT of information on how to install/use and configure | 06:52 |
| davedorm | help! | 06:52 |
| davedorm | lol | 06:52 |
| Mars | no | 06:52 |
| kkathman | Hi davedorm :) | 06:52 |
| Mars | i have roblem with plugins | 06:52 |
| Mars | i cant find answer there | 06:53 |
| kkathman | davedorm: whats the problem :) | 06:53 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: which distro would you recommend for an old dell laptop with _probably_ a p3 500mhz and _hopefully_ 128mb ram and some graphicscard..it has an external cd drive and external floppydrive, both can't be plugged in at the same time. | 06:53 |
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| kkathman | Mars http://www.kde-forum.org/archive/11543/thread.html does this help you? | 06:54 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: it'll be mainly used as typewriter.. | 06:54 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: are you going to be primarily CLI or do you want gui? | 06:54 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: gui | 06:55 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: I have a similar machine here | 06:55 |
| kkathman | I run ubuntu with Gnome | 06:55 |
| kkathman | but | 06:55 |
| kkathman | I have also rung XFCE on it and it works very well also | 06:55 |
| kkathman | run | 06:55 |
| davedorm | ok... I cannot get anywhere in the GUI admin stuff... it prompts me for my sudo password, spins the little hourglass, and goes away | 06:55 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: it's not for me, it's for my parents.. right now theres win98se on it with a bunch of programs like office xp which almost kill the machine.. | 06:55 |
| Mars_^ | Which docker is the best ? | 06:56 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: yah...if you know ubuntu yourself, then XFCE might be better | 06:56 |
| kkathman | davedorm: can you be more specific as to what you are trying to do? | 06:56 |
| davedorm | access drives (where it edits fstab) | 06:57 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: i just want it to be somewhat fast and reliable. since my parents don't know much windows or computers switching to linux should be easy :) | 06:57 |
| davedorm | disks and filesystems | 06:57 |
| kkathman | davedorm: running breezy and kubuntu? | 06:57 |
| davedorm | yup | 06:57 |
| davedorm | 5.10 | 06:57 |
| PJeremy | +about^^ | 06:57 |
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| icewt | davedorm: that should be fixed in the latest updates | 06:58 |
| davedorm | ok, so do an update in Adept? | 06:58 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: theres another GUI out there that looks like Windows...XPDE I think...but I dont know the resources needed | 06:58 |
| kkathman | davedorm: be sure to run Adept Updater | 06:58 |
| davedorm | I'll try that | 06:58 |
| davedorm | thanks | 06:58 |
| kkathman | the admin probs were fixed a few days ago | 06:58 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: what the gui looks like is pretty irrelevant..just should have very very low requirements. | 06:58 |
| davedorm | I also get errors that dcopserver is not running | 06:59 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: Try Gnome to begin with.... My Dell is an old 1997 p3 450 with 128 | 06:59 |
| kkathman | and it seems pretty stable and responsive with Gnome | 06:59 |
| kkathman | I dont use it as a production machine per se, its mostly for file storage | 07:00 |
| kkathman | but still when I do get on it...its fine | 07:00 |
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| PJeremy | kkathman: have you used OOo2 on it/printed with it? i don't think my parents will do more than that.. | 07:00 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | does anyone here use the moodin theme engine? | 07:01 |
| davedorm | ok, it's running... we'll see if that fixes it... I am a staunch Mepis user, so I wanted to try Kubuntu | 07:01 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: cant say that I have sorry...it will prolly be slow, just because of the memory I'd reckon | 07:01 |
| kkathman | but should run once loaded | 07:01 |
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| kkathman | lemme try that real quick PJeremy ok...gimme a sec | 07:01 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: sure, thanks | 07:01 |
| davedorm | and once I installed stuff I was missing, lol, Kubuntu was not that bad | 07:02 |
| Mars | What's the best docker in your opinion? | 07:03 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Mars, u mean like a mac os style docker? | 07:03 |
| jpowers | Mars: I'm very happy with kooldock | 07:04 |
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| kkathman | PJeremy: I just fired OO 1.1 up (MY Dell is still on hoary)...it took about 40 seconds to bring it up, but after that..it was fine | 07:04 |
| jpowers | 40 secs | 07:04 |
| jpowers | blah | 07:05 |
| kkathman | jpowers: p3 450 128 MB | 07:05 |
| kkathman | hehe not my production machine :) | 07:05 |
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| jpowers | whew | 07:05 |
| kkathman | its a file server only | 07:05 |
| Mars_^ | Sonny_Wertzik, Yes MacOs one | 07:05 |
| kkathman | but PJeremy wanted some benchmarks | 07:05 |
| jpowers | Mars: I'm very happy with kooldock | 07:05 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Mars, well ksmoothdock is written well and easy to configure , but i like kxdocker | 07:06 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | Mars, kxdocker is a pain to configure and the instruction are written by an italian guy in broken english | 07:07 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: hui, i guess OOo2 wouldnt be faster :/ | 07:07 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Mars, but when u understand whats going on i think its got the most potential | 07:08 |
| Mars^ | Sonny_Wertzik, yes i gave up it :) | 07:08 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: probably not...but if your folks were to bite the bullet and get just another 256 mb (very cheap upgrade) then it would be better I imagine | 07:08 |
| Mars^ | but i dont know what use now | 07:08 |
| Mars^ | which docker cause i dont want kxdocker :) | 07:08 |
| kkathman | Mars^: anything particularly wrong with the native kicker in KDE? | 07:08 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Mars^, try ksmoothdock ..the second to newest version its flawless | 07:09 |
| kkathman | Mars^: have you tried putting a graphical image there, or use the transparency mode? | 07:09 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: unlikely, they just took it because my dad got it for free, they're not computer people.. | 07:09 |
| Mars^ | kkathman, i was trying to do a lot of things yesterday :) | 07:09 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: but you could easily put the memory in the machine...but I understand | 07:09 |
| kkathman | Mars^: best to stick with one thing at a time, get that stable and working :) | 07:10 |
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| Mars^ | i will try ksmoothdoc | 07:10 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: sure i could, but not with my money ;) | 07:10 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Mars^, ya kxdocker is a pain until u find someone that understand what the hell the guy who wrote it is doing | 07:11 |
| kkathman | PJeremy: oh...hehe your folks should be able to get the memory upgrade for probably less than $30-40 | 07:11 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | Mars^, i could not compile the newest version of ksmoothdock but the second to newest version is good | 07:12 |
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| Mars^ | i will try | 07:12 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: that's twice as much as my dad would have paid for the laptop hehe | 07:13 |
| PJeremy | +what | 07:13 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Mars^, i think it version 3.5.1. | 07:13 |
| Mars^ | Sonny_Wertzik, yes i cant compile it too | 07:13 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | Mars^, heh...the new one just has some new tweaks i think not any fixes | 07:14 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Mars^, so 3.5.1. should be good to go 4 u | 07:14 |
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| Mars___ | Sonny_Wertzik, so which one schould i compile? | 07:16 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Mars^, dont compile just go to KDE look web site and D/L version 3.5..1. | 07:17 |
| bruger | Hi, anybody that can help me with my mouse in kde? | 07:17 |
| robin_ | although, the HAL fix, now let me normally use usbsticks, it still opens two windows when I connect my iPod | 07:18 |
| robin_ | and I can't umount it, because it isn't in fstab. | 07:18 |
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| bruger | Hi, I'm having a problem with my mouse in KDE, it moves in a delayed kindof way and I can't get it working like a regular mouse | 07:20 |
| bruger | it's just a regular usb mouse and works fine other places. Anybody has a clue what I could do to ficx it? | 07:20 |
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| bruger | anybody have any idea what it could be? I'm using kubuntu breezy but I'm suspecting its something in the X configuration | 07:22 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | Mars^, its one of these on this page http://intranet.harlaut.net/debian/ksmoothdock/ depending on which kubuntu u use i386...amd64...whatever | 07:24 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | bruger, have u tried system settings > mouse | 07:25 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | bruger, sound like what u would call mouse acceleration setting if it were windows | 07:26 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | bruger, under the advanced tab in mouse settings there are 5 or 6 setting to play with | 07:29 |
| Mars_^ | ehh | 07:29 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Mars_^, stop logging in and out hehehehehehe | 07:29 |
| Mars_^ | I ve got problem with deb of smoothdocker | 07:29 |
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| Mars_^ | its not my false | 07:29 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Mars^, its one of these on this page http://intranet.harlaut.net/debian/ksmoothdock/ depending on which kubuntu u use i386...amd64...whatever | 07:30 |
| Mars_^ | yes | 07:31 |
| Mars_^ | i was trying to install from deb | 07:31 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | Mars_^, ok what happened | 07:31 |
| Mars_^ | some problems with libriares | 07:33 |
| Mars_^ | kdedev4 | 07:33 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | Mars_^, and ?? | 07:34 |
| Mars_^ | i couldnt install it | 07:34 |
| Mars_^ | but | 07:34 |
| Mars_^ | now i installed it from source | 07:34 |
| Mars_^ | and it doesent run :] | 07:35 |
| Mars_^ | : | 07:35 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | mars sounds like you might not have installed the development files for KDE | 07:35 |
| Mars_^ | ehh | 07:35 |
| Mars_^ | i think i have :) | 07:35 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | make sure u have kde-devel installed in adept | 07:36 |
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| Mars | it says that i dont have : | 07:39 |
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| Mars | kde-devel | 07:39 |
| Mars | no | 07:39 |
| Mars | libqt3c102-mt | 07:39 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | mars u mean its not listed? | 07:39 |
| Mars | dpkg: problemy z zalenociami uniemoliwiaj skonfigurowanie ksmoothdock: | 07:39 |
| Mars | ksmoothdock zaley od kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.2.2); jednake: | 07:39 |
| Mars | Pakiet kdelibs4 nie jest zainstalowany. | 07:39 |
| Mars | ksmoothdock zaley od libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.2.3); jednake: | 07:39 |
| Mars | Pakiet libqt3c102-mt nie jest zainstalowany. | 07:39 |
| Mars | dpkg: bd przetwarzania ksmoothdock (--install): | 07:39 |
| Mars | o | 07:39 |
| Mars | in polish | 07:39 |
| Mars | but it says i dont have mentioned | 07:40 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Mars, are all your repositories enabled? | 07:40 |
| PJeremy | kkathman: you use opera, right? | 07:41 |
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| davedorm | w00t | 07:42 |
| davedorm | that worked | 07:43 |
| davedorm | still does not see my thumb drive | 07:43 |
| davedorm | lol | 07:43 |
| davedorm | but I'll manage | 07:43 |
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| manveru | Mars: if you've got some time, i'm building a .deb from source atm... it will hopefully work better | 07:43 |
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| Knowerrors | How do I enable mp3 support on kubuntu? I have w32codecs installed as well as gstreamer0.8-musepack and gstreamer0.8-misc | 07:46 |
| bruger | sonny_wertzik thx, I'll take a look at it | 07:46 |
| robin_ | Knowerrors:gstreamer-mad | 07:46 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | bruger, no prob yw | 07:46 |
| robin_ | Knowerrors: you can use xine engine also for amarok | 07:47 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Knowerrors, you need to iInstall the akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad packages from the universe repository and killall artsd to restart the sound server | 07:48 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | Knowerrors, are you trying to use amaok? | 07:49 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Knowerrors, Amarok | 07:49 |
| Knowerrors | yeah, or kaffience, either one | 07:49 |
| Knowerrors | kaffiene | 07:49 |
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| Knowerrors | hehe, bad spelling people in the morning | 07:50 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | Knowerrors, ya..................you need to iInstall the akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad packages from the universe repository and killall artsd to restart the sound server | 07:50 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | Knowerrors, or just reboot | 07:50 |
| Knowerrors | ok, thx Sonny_Wertzik , doing that now, got 28.8 dialup so will be a time | 07:51 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | Knowerrors, heh...ok | 07:51 |
| bruger | sonny_wertzik It's nok like its mouse acceleration, the mouse is actually about second delayed, not like a mouse should be. It worked fine when I used debian, but after I switched it stopped working correctly | 07:51 |
| bruger | sonny_wertzik nok=not | 07:52 |
| Mars_^ | manveru, ? | 07:52 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | bruger, im just guessing here but look at the advanced tab....maybe drag start time? | 07:53 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | bruger, ior pionter threshhold? | 07:53 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | bruger, back in 3 minutes ..i have to do something | 07:55 |
| bruger | sonny_wertzik, I suppose it helped with the drag start time, but it's not anywhere near acceptable still. I thinks its something else | 07:55 |
| bruger | ok | 07:55 |
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| bruger | sonny_wertzik ok | 07:55 |
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| bruger | Sonny_wertzik, I think its the X settings because the mouse begins acting strange as soon as I start any X including just kdm | 08:00 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | bruger, sorry man..i dont know anything else | 08:01 |
| Knowerrors | Sonny_Wertzik: did the steps, kaffiene and amarok still won't play, is there anything else I gotta do? | 08:01 |
| bruger | sonny_wertzik, allright, thx anyway :-) | 08:01 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | bruger, np | 08:01 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | Knowerrors, ya ummm 1 sec | 08:02 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | Knowerrors, open the main menu > system settings> sound and mutimedia> hardware tab> select audio device...............change it to open sound system or anything other than atuo | 08:05 |
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| libben | where can i find debs for kubuntu that is not in repos ? | 08:05 |
| troth | i just downloaded a new .iso live cd. can someone direct me to a tutorial, or help, with how to burn as an image | 08:06 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Knowerrors, there is also 1 more thing u can try if that doesnt work let me know | 08:07 |
| troth | nevermind i think i found it with K3b | 08:08 |
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| troth | ya i figured it out with K3b | 08:11 |
| Noaires | Sonny_Wertzik: didn't work... is there anything I need to change in the gstreamer engine settings? | 08:11 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Noaires, is that u knowerrors? did u reboot after you installed akode-mpeg and gstreamer-mad? | 08:12 |
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| Madeye | guys, I have java installed, jad@madi:~$ java -version | 08:13 |
| Madeye | java version "1.4.2" | 08:13 |
| Madeye | gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9) | 08:13 |
| Noaires | Yeah, thats knowerrors, I need to register that name cause modem boots me | 08:13 |
| Madeye | but it's not working in konquerer | 08:13 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Noaires, ya there is something else | 08:13 |
| Madeye | how can I fix that | 08:13 |
| Noaires | no, didn't reboot, just killall artsd | 08:13 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Noaires, id reboot | 08:14 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Noaires, but try this also aftarward | 08:14 |
| Madeye | anyone? | 08:15 |
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| musashiden | hello. i just installed a HardDrive in my computer, now all i need to do is mount it. | 08:15 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Noaires, open amarok click settings> configure amarok>go to engine and pick gstreamer pick oss output plugin too | 08:16 |
| musashiden | can anyone tell me how to real quick? | 08:16 |
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| Noaires | Sonny_Wertzik: how do I view Amarok error log, cause it gives me a gstreamer error that disappears real quick | 08:18 |
| libben | ui | 08:18 |
| musashiden | Noaires: shouldnt you ask amarok related questions in #amarok | 08:18 |
| musashiden | ? | 08:18 |
| Noaires | its not just amarok related musashiden | 08:18 |
| musashiden | oh, gotcha | 08:18 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | Noaires, dont know....but reboot your machine before you do anything else....killall artsd...man if you arent using artsd it aint gonna mean much | 08:19 |
| Noaires | its playing mp3s through gstreamer on any program | 08:19 |
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| Allah | ALAAAAAAAAAAAAH | 08:19 |
| Noaires | okeeedokey, will do, thx Sonny_Wertzik | 08:19 |
| musashiden | anyways, can anyone tell me how to mount a new hard drive? | 08:19 |
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| musashiden | hmph, guess nobody knows how | 08:21 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, 1 sec i have a web page i think | 08:22 |
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| _op | I setup samba but i am trying to set it up so that it does not need a login becuase i am connecting to it with somthing that cannot input that. How do i do that? | 08:24 |
| libben | whats the line for emualting button3 in xorg? | 08:25 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, what filesystem is the partition? | 08:25 |
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| musashiden | Sonny_Wertzik: erm, i think it the one windows use. htfs or something | 08:26 |
| musashiden | cant remember the exact name | 08:26 |
| musashiden | but its the one windows XP uses | 08:26 |
| libben | what was the emulate thing to type for getting the two mouse button to act as mouse3 | 08:27 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, ya NTFS.....http://www.majalah.com/#automountfat .....scroll up or down to find the NTFS entry | 08:28 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, its in there somewhere | 08:29 |
| musashiden | ok, thank you | 08:29 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, yw | 08:29 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | does anyone here use the moodin theme engine? | 08:34 |
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| nikitis | Are there any guides for installing Dual ATI Video cards in Kubuntu? | 08:35 |
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| musashiden | hmmm, how about how to format the hard drive? anyone knows how to do that? | 08:40 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, did u mount it? | 08:41 |
| musashiden | yes | 08:41 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, and u can see it and read the contents of the partition? | 08:42 |
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| musashiden | yup | 08:45 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, ok cool....you want to overwrite the windows partition ? | 08:45 |
| meldroc | just upgraded to breezy, now kaffeine won't find w32codecs when everything else, including xine and mplayer, can. | 08:46 |
| musashiden | errr. all i want is to completely erase the harddrive. format it if you will | 08:46 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, well i need to know what you want to format it for...like what filesystem..if you want to make it a windows partion or a linux partition | 08:48 |
| musashiden | linux partition | 08:48 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, well put in the linux cd and boot from it...find the partition u want to change and edit only that partition manually | 08:49 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, it will destroy all data on that partition | 08:50 |
| nikitis | So.... Are there any guides for installing two ATI Cards? | 08:50 |
| musashiden | isnt there a way to do it from here? | 08:50 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, what kubuntu are u using ...hoary..or breezy? | 08:51 |
| musashiden | erm...not sure | 08:52 |
| musashiden | i think it was hoary | 08:52 |
| musashiden | yah, it is hoary | 08:52 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, im not sure about diong what u want in hoary....u might try the repository and see if there is a partition manager program for hoary | 08:53 |
| nikitis | Anyone know where I can find info on installing Two ATI Cards? | 08:54 |
| musashiden | nah, ok, ill just do it from the cd | 08:54 |
| musashiden | thanks for the help nevertheless | 08:54 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, sure | 08:54 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, good luck | 08:54 |
| musashiden | Sonny_Wertzik: thank you | 08:54 |
| nikitis | Sonny_Wertzik, Would you happen to know where I can find a guide to install two ATI Cards? | 08:55 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | nikitis, ummm what version of kubuntu...breezy? | 08:59 |
| nikitis | the latest | 08:59 |
| nikitis | breezy i think | 08:59 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | nikitis, hmmm maybe.... 1 sec | 08:59 |
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| _op | how do i configure samba to not require user name and login to connect to it's shares | 09:00 |
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| nikitis | _op, I don't think you can | 09:00 |
| nikitis | you can make it so it's not passworded | 09:01 |
| nikitis | or write a script | 09:01 |
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| _op | okay how do i make it so it is not passworded | 09:02 |
| _op | reason is becuase i am connecting from my xbox to the share so i can't input a password | 09:02 |
| nikitis | in linux | 09:03 |
| nikitis | create a user | 09:03 |
| nikitis | without a password | 09:03 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | nikitis, i know there is documentation...try searchng about it under hoary instead of breezy | 09:03 |
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| nikitis | then when creating the share | 09:03 |
| nikitis | use that user to create it | 09:03 |
| nikitis | so that he'll have the permissions | 09:03 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | nikitis, i cant find it in my bookmarks | 09:03 |
| nikitis | Sonny_Wertzik, really? | 09:04 |
| nikitis | i'm not looking for dual head setup | 09:04 |
| nikitis | cause I have two actual video cards | 09:04 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | nikitis, im lookin right now for u | 09:04 |
| nikitis | thanks | 09:05 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | nikitis, it may be here http://216.109.125.130/search/cache?p=install+two+video+cards+hoary&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&fl=0&u=ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D53050&w=install+two+video+cards+hoary&d=Pxp6L2FULuzI&icp=1&.intl=us .....but i cant get on the site...it seem to be overloaded or down | 09:10 |
| endo602 | how do i install a .sh file? | 09:10 |
| angelusco | hola | 09:10 |
| angelusco | sorry hi, is this room just in english ? | 09:10 |
| angelusco | helloooo | 09:11 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | angelusco, ask in whatever language u want and maybe someone will answer...but mostly english hehe | 09:12 |
| endo602 | how do i install a .sh file | 09:12 |
| angelusco | ok ty sonny, is here some kind or rules? 'cuz i know some rooms that ban u if u speak another languaje | 09:13 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | angelusco, i dont know... | 09:13 |
| laszlok | endo602: chmod +x <name of the file> | 09:14 |
| angelusco | perhaps i don't speak english, but i will try to spell it as better as i can | 09:14 |
| laszlok | endo602: then ./<name of file> to run it | 09:14 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | angelusco, u seem to be doing fine with english as far as i can see hehehehe | 09:14 |
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| endo602 | thanks | 09:15 |
| at1as | Anyone use Transcode? | 09:15 |
| angelusco | ok ty, mmmm well, i am a noob in this room, on irc and even on kubuntu | 09:16 |
| angelusco | i can't play videos with kaffeine | 09:16 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | angelusco, thats ok, so am i | 09:16 |
| at1as | Kaffeine is broke for me too. | 09:17 |
| at1as | xine and mplayer seem fine though | 09:17 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | angelusco, ya i never use it.... i know what u mean... i dont know how to fix it | 09:18 |
| musashiden | hmm, this is messed up :S | 09:18 |
| angelusco | xine? where can i find it | 09:18 |
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| angelusco | well actually i am looking for codecs or something like that for kaffeine | 09:18 |
| musashiden | Sonny_Wertzik: now i cant access the hard drive i just installed and the other hard drive i tried to format still has some kubuntu base files in there | 09:19 |
| angelusco | sonny, what do u use?, i can give anything for drop windogs away =) | 09:19 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | angelusco, are all your repositories enabled? | 09:19 |
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| angelusco | i guess them are, how can i check that ? | 09:19 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | angelusco, for playing videos i use xine | 09:20 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | are u using the breezy version of kubuntu? | 09:20 |
| at1as | xineui. | 09:20 |
| at1as | Don't know if it's in universe or otherwise. | 09:20 |
| apokryphos | xine-ui -- vital hyphen ;-) | 09:21 |
| angelusco | sonny, who are u talking to? the breezy version is for me? | 09:21 |
| musashiden | i guess your busy now | 09:22 |
| angelusco | mmmm let me c | 09:22 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, did u make the formatted drive bootable? | 09:22 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | angelusco, use adept package manager look for xineui | 09:22 |
| apokryphos | Sonny_Wertzik: it's xine-ui | 09:23 |
| musashiden | Sonny_Wertzik: erm, i really dont know | 09:23 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | apokryphos, yes ok right | 09:23 |
| angelusco | sonny, mm let me check i was looking for xmplayer but didn't find it | 09:23 |
| angelusco | sonny, hold on | 09:23 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, heh i dont really know what u did | 09:24 |
| musashiden | hmm, ok | 09:24 |
| musashiden | damnit. i messed up both of my hardrives now | 09:24 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, well u are talking to me so something is working right | 09:25 |
| musashiden | lol | 09:26 |
| musashiden | i have 3 hard drives | 09:26 |
| musashiden | and i messed up 2 of them | 09:26 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, did u pick the right drive when u formatted it? | 09:26 |
| musashiden | yes | 09:26 |
| musashiden | it did formatted it. but it installed the base system on it <_< | 09:27 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, well try again .... no big deal | 09:27 |
| max | Hi, may i ask a short question? | 09:28 |
| apokryphos | no! | 09:28 |
| max | ok sry | 09:28 |
| angelusco | back, mmmm i have a big trouble | 09:28 |
| apokryphos | max: kiddin' | 09:28 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, u wanted to format it ...that would clear it anyways...u just put the base system on by accident | 09:28 |
| apokryphos | max: just ask; don't ask to ask :) | 09:29 |
| max | :-) | 09:29 |
| angelusco | i can't loggin with my password as root | 09:29 |
| max | i can't load the ubuntuforum.org site, is down? i tried windows and kubuntu with different browsers. | 09:29 |
| max | everything else works properly | 09:29 |
| apokryphos | max: it's ubuntuforums[] | 09:29 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | angelusco, that is a default of KDE i belive | 09:29 |
| max | ... one moment | 09:29 |
| apokryphos | max: *ubuntuforum[s] | 09:29 |
| musashiden | and the other one was working just fine before i rebooted the computer. now it says "could not enter folder /media/hdd1" | 09:29 |
| apokryphos | but yup, it seems to be down | 09:29 |
| max | yes, i tried forumS ... puh, for a moment | 09:30 |
| max | thx | 09:30 |
| angelusco | LOL my bad, i had the package manager open, so the second time i opened it, was on read only | 09:31 |
| angelusco | sonny, hahaha sorry, now u can c how a noob i am =) | 09:31 |
| musashiden | and Sonny_Wertzik: i cant format the hard driver without kubuntu installing the base system. because as soon as it formats it, it starts to install the base system | 09:31 |
| musashiden | so i cant help it | 09:31 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, and u are using the hoary version? | 09:32 |
| musashiden | yes | 09:32 |
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| at1as | Anyone else use transcode at all? | 09:33 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, does it try to boot from that new partition? | 09:33 |
| musashiden | nope | 09:33 |
| max | ahh, forums are back | 09:34 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, well that good at least ...maybe try to delete the files off it manually | 09:34 |
| angelusco | #focr | 09:35 |
| musashiden | tried it, access denied. | 09:35 |
| musashiden | even with root | 09:35 |
| angelusco | oops | 09:35 |
| angelusco | how do i join another channel ? | 09:35 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, 1 sec ill look it up | 09:35 |
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| pipe | hola!! | 09:36 |
| pipe | kubunto IRC en espaol ????? | 09:36 |
| pipe | porfavor ! | 09:36 |
| angelusco | hey, i have libxine-dev, libcinelc2 and libxinerama 1 installed | 09:37 |
| angelusco | hola pipe | 09:37 |
| pipe | hola.. sabes como es el IRC de kubuntu es espaol? | 09:37 |
| angelusco | soy nuevo en linux y mas en kubuntu, pero igual te puedo ayudar traduciendo tus dudas para ver si alhuien te contesta | 09:37 |
| pipe | a ok | 09:37 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, u there? | 09:37 |
| apokryphos | pipe: #kubuntu-es | 09:37 |
| angelusco | como es? te refieres al canal ? | 09:37 |
| pipe | lo q necesito son repositorios | 09:37 |
| musashiden | Sonny_Wertzik: yup | 09:37 |
| apokryphos | please join #ubuntu-es or #kubuntu-es please | 09:38 |
| pipe | sip | 09:38 |
| angelusco | pipe says: he need repositories | 09:38 |
| pipe | gracias por la traduccion! | 09:38 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, ok i found u a partition editor for hoary | 09:38 |
| musashiden | ok | 09:38 |
| angelusco | no hay problema | 09:38 |
| musashiden | which one is it? | 09:38 |
| pipe | a ok | 09:38 |
| pipe | me los podrias mandar! | 09:38 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, http://www.majalah.com/#gparted read it ...it tells you how to install it.... dont panic....hehehe | 09:39 |
| angelusco | hey all, do u care if a traslate what pipe wants? | 09:39 |
| angelusco | dejame ver como se configuran o se agregan los repositorios | 09:39 |
| angelusco | hey all, do u care if a traslate what pipe wants? | 09:39 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, its for gnome but it might work for KDE | 09:39 |
| musashiden | iam not a noob at linux, iam just having a little trouble with the hard drive stuff | 09:39 |
| musashiden | angelusco: we heard you the first time, and tell him to join #kubuntu-es | 09:40 |
| angelusco | musashiden, i already joined there but nobody answer | 09:40 |
| pipe | aangelusco.. q dicen? | 09:40 |
| apokryphos | pipe: English *only* in here | 09:40 |
| pipe | no entiendo mucho el ingles! | 09:41 |
| raphink | ok let's move to kubuntu-es | 09:41 |
| pipe | a ok | 09:41 |
| apokryphos | =) | 09:41 |
| raphink | ya vengo en #kubuntu-es | 09:41 |
| angelusco | que ya me leyeron la linea anterior, que te pases a kubutu-es pero les digo que no contestand | 09:41 |
| pipe | gracias!! | 09:41 |
| pipe | xao | 09:41 |
| pipe | gracias amigo.. me voy a kubuntu-es | 09:41 |
| pipe | chao.. denuevo gracias! | 09:41 |
| angelusco | ok | 09:42 |
| angelusco | suerte | 09:42 |
| angelusco | sonny, i have libxine-dev, libcinelc2 and libxinerama 1 installed | 09:42 |
| apokryphos | angelusco: what are you trying to do? | 09:42 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | ya | 09:42 |
| angelusco | to watch videos, movies, etc | 09:43 |
| angelusco | i just can ear mp3 =) | 09:43 |
| angelusco | listen* | 09:44 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | angelusco, DVD's? | 09:44 |
| apokryphos | angelusco: are you on i386? | 09:44 |
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| angelusco | well, that could be great, but for star i want to c videos | 09:44 |
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| angelusco | apokryphos, yap | 09:44 |
| apokryphos | !w32codecs | 09:44 |
| ubotu | extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy). | 09:44 |
| apokryphos | angelusco: get that, and also install xine-ui | 09:45 |
| Allah | xine4ever | 09:45 |
| Allah | :> | 09:45 |
| Allah | . /usr/lib/win32 put ya c00ki3s there | 09:45 |
| apokryphos | Allah: nah.. that link comes with the .deb that'll do everything for you 8) | 09:45 |
| Allah | oh | 09:46 |
| Allah | okay | 09:46 |
| Allah | thats pretty l33t | 09:46 |
| Allah | im currently developing kdeapplets | 09:46 |
| Allah | my current project ist "Kputt" | 09:46 |
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| angelusco | omg, let me c, even i don't know how to install some programs from internet | 09:46 |
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| angelusco | hehehehe | 09:46 |
| apokryphos | Allah: oh ok; what does it do? | 09:46 |
| Allah | apokryphos: it makes kde kaputt | 09:47 |
| musashiden | Sonny_Wertzik: wow, this program really works. thank you very much | 09:49 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, good! im glad to here that | 09:49 |
| musashiden | ok, so that fixes one hard drive | 09:50 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, now u can fix your stuff | 09:50 |
| musashiden | now this other one is giving me a headache | 09:50 |
| Chris_Haston | i have setup samba to and i created a user with no password and created a share. But when i try to connect to the share in windows it is asking for a password and it will not let me connect to it. Anyone know how i can make it not ask for a password? | 09:50 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, well at least you got one thing down | 09:50 |
| musashiden | the other one was working just fine before i rebooted the computer. now it says "could not enter folder /media/hdd1" | 09:51 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, maybe its a permissions problem | 09:51 |
| musashiden | well i tried to change the permission, even from the terminal windows with root | 09:52 |
| musashiden | but it wont work | 09:52 |
| musashiden | you think maybe itll get fixed if i reboot the computer? | 09:52 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, if you login as root maybe you can right click that drive go to preferences and chage the permission....be carful in root...u can really do some damage inthere | 09:52 |
| musashiden | i tried root | 09:53 |
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| angelusco | deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted <----- it means that i am on breezy ??? | 09:53 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, not in terminal.... login as root | 09:53 |
| musashiden | i can access the hard drive just fine with root | 09:53 |
| musashiden | hmm | 09:53 |
| raphink | yes angelusco | 09:54 |
| musashiden | it says "root logins not allowed" | 09:54 |
| angelusco | ok ty | 09:54 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, be ever so carful in root... you can mess up your stuff if you do the wrong thing in there..! | 09:54 |
| txakoli | hola | 09:55 |
| txakoli | hello | 09:55 |
| musashiden | sonny, dont worry. i know how to mess with root. i been messing with linux for 8 months now | 09:55 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, u are using kde right? | 09:55 |
| musashiden | yah | 09:55 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | im not sure but in breezy ...the version i use... root is disabled by default | 09:56 |
| angelusco | i am donwloading w32codecs | 09:56 |
| angelusco | let me c if i can install it =) | 09:56 |
| musashiden | then how can i enable it? | 09:56 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, im not sure about hoary so i dont want to steer u wrong | 09:56 |
| apokryphos | why do you want to login as root? | 09:57 |
| apokryphos | There shouldn't ever be a need to | 09:57 |
| musashiden | to access the harddrive and get my stuff out of there | 09:57 |
| txakoli | help! I can't install amule in kubuntu | 09:57 |
| musashiden | because no matter what i do, it wont let me in | 09:57 |
| apokryphos | musashiden: if you don't like the terminal, then alt+f2 -> kdesu konqueror | 09:58 |
| apokryphos | though ideally you want to alter the mount permissions or something for that harddrive | 09:58 |
| apokryphos | is it in fstab? | 09:58 |
| musashiden | yes | 09:58 |
| apokryphos | musashiden: can you paste the respective entry? | 09:59 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, good luck man i got to go... | 09:59 |
| musashiden | /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd1 ntfs defaults 0 2 | 09:59 |
| musashiden | Sonny_Wertzik: thank you. and see ya later | 09:59 |
| apokryphos | musashiden: you haven't set a umask option | 09:59 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, np take care | 09:59 |
| musashiden | Sonny_Wertzik: thanks for all the help | 09:59 |
| musashiden | apokryphos: how do i do that? | 10:00 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, yw | 10:00 |
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| apokryphos | musashiden: /dev/hda1 /media/hdd1 ntfs umask=0222 0 0 | 10:00 |
| Chris_Haston | i have setup samba to and i created a user with no password and created a share. But when i try to connect to the share in windows it is asking for a password and it will not let me connect to it. Anyone know how i can make it not ask for a password? | 10:00 |
| apokryphos | musashiden: put that entry in | 10:00 |
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| musashiden | /dev/hda1 ? | 10:00 |
| Drakeson | anyone from canada? | 10:00 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: howdy :) | 10:00 |
| apokryphos | musashiden: hdd1, sorry | 10:00 |
| apokryphos | kkathman: hey | 10:00 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: got a question...you said that the libqt3c102-mt is obsoleted in Breezy? | 10:01 |
| musashiden | apokryphos: do i overwrite the other one? | 10:01 |
| apokryphos | it is | 10:01 |
| apokryphos | musashiden: yes | 10:01 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: OK...but what do you do if you have an app that has that as a dependency? | 10:01 |
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| apokryphos | kkathman: what application does? | 10:02 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: krusader 1.7 newest version | 10:02 |
| musashiden | apokryphos: ok, done | 10:02 |
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| musashiden | now what? | 10:02 |
| apokryphos | kkathman: you could just extract the deb and alter the depends | 10:02 |
| apokryphos | musashiden: sudo mount -a | 10:02 |
| apokryphos | (to remount all relevant things) | 10:02 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: after you are finished with musashiden - maybe we can talk about that in --offtopic | 10:03 |
| apokryphos | kkathman: link to the .deb? | 10:03 |
| kkathman | im in no rush | 10:03 |
| kkathman | 1 sec | 10:03 |
| apokryphos | kkathman: and it wouldn't be offtopic :P | 10:04 |
| musashiden | yay! it works! | 10:04 |
| apokryphos | =) | 10:04 |
| musashiden | thank you very much apokryphos | 10:04 |
| apokryphos | np | 10:04 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/krusader/krusader_1.60.1-sarge1_i386.deb?download | 10:05 |
| apokryphos | ok, thanks | 10:05 |
| kkathman | not a prob...thank YOU | 10:05 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: ok.. ok...I didnt wanna horn in on your helping someone else while in the process | 10:06 |
| apokryphos | kkathman: helping just one person at a time would be a boring process anyway :P | 10:06 |
| kkathman | lo | 10:06 |
| kkathman | lol | 10:06 |
| Chris_Haston | has anyone gotten itunes working under wine? | 10:07 |
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| musashiden | um, here is a noob question. whats the delete command for the terminal? like if i wanted to delete a whole folder? | 10:08 |
| kkathman | musashiden: rm -rf | 10:09 |
| musashiden | thank you kkathman | 10:09 |
| kkathman | be careful :) | 10:09 |
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| musashiden | lol, ill try | 10:10 |
| Chris_Haston | i have been trying to get itunes working under wine and it will not finish the installation | 10:10 |
| musashiden | hmm, one last problem. when i try to change the permissions of hdd1, it gives me this: "chmod: changing permissions of `/media/hdd1': Read-only file system" | 10:12 |
| kkathman | musashiden: you probably need to use sudo in front of that command | 10:12 |
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| rhalff_ | hi if I just install kde in unbuntu, will that give me the same as kubuntu ? | 10:13 |
| musashiden | kkathman: i have, iam logged in to the terminal as root | 10:13 |
| kkathman | rhalff_: not really | 10:14 |
| kkathman | rhalff_: did you install ubuntu? | 10:14 |
| rhalff_ | kkathman, yes, running ubuntu now | 10:14 |
| musashiden | "Read-only file system"...hmmm...doesnt that sound suspicious? | 10:14 |
| kkathman | rhalff_: all you need to do then, is do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, then go get some coffee and lunch | 10:14 |
| musashiden | or unusual? like if it was made to be read only? | 10:15 |
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| kkathman | musashiden: unusual that it would be read-only yes | 10:15 |
| rhalff_ | kkathman, ah ok nice :) | 10:15 |
| musashiden | well anyways, can you help me out? | 10:15 |
| PJeremy | does anyone here use the playlist2html script in amarok? | 10:16 |
| kkathman | musashiden: what were you trying to do? | 10:16 |
| apokryphos | kkathman: vaguely inconvenient that I don't remember how to alter the control file from the .deb itself, and then put it back together. I'll have to find out | 10:17 |
| musashiden | iam trying to change the permission of the hard drive. because it seems the whole hard drive is read only | 10:17 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: no problems | 10:17 |
| musashiden | but it wont let me. even when logged in as root | 10:17 |
| kkathman | musashiden: hmm someone else had this problem recently | 10:18 |
| kkathman | musashiden: and I forget what the solution was | 10:18 |
| musashiden | @_@ | 10:18 |
| apokryphos | thoreauputic: know how to repackage a .deb with an altered control file? | 10:18 |
| kkathman | musashiden: Im thinking its an option in your fstab...but not 100% sure | 10:19 |
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| kkathman | wait one sec... | 10:19 |
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| kkathman | musashiden: did you install clean or upgrade from a previous version? | 10:22 |
| musashiden | nope | 10:22 |
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| isaac | pipitas: what for? | 10:24 |
| kkathman | musashiden: ummm ok how did you install? | 10:24 |
| kkathman | those are the only two ways I know :) | 10:25 |
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| musashiden | lol, never mind kkathman, i got it fixed. nevertheless, thanks for the help | 10:26 |
| kkathman | excellent musashiden can you tell us what you did? | 10:26 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, did u get it straightened out? | 10:27 |
| musashiden | i was changing the permissions of the wrong harddrive. i was trying to fix hdd1, while the real problem was hdb1 | 10:27 |
| musashiden | iam such a noob xP | 10:27 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, did u get it straightened out? | 10:27 |
| musashiden | Sonny_Wertzik: yup | 10:27 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, kool man | 10:28 |
| musashiden | yup | 10:28 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, were u messin with tr wrong drive? | 10:28 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, were u messin with the wrong drive? | 10:29 |
| musashiden | Sonny_Wertzik: yah, but no worries, i got it fixed | 10:30 |
| musashiden | with a little help from kkathman of course | 10:30 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, ahh ya there are alike names for things and stuff..it gets confusing | 10:30 |
| musashiden | lol | 10:31 |
| apokryphos | kkathman: http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/krusader.deb -- lmk if it works; I have no i386 chroot here, so can't test | 10:33 |
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| apokryphos | kkathman: erm... there's an ubuntu deb on their site | 10:35 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | anybody here use the moodin theme engine for splash screens? | 10:36 |
| apokryphos | yup | 10:36 |
| raphink | yes Sonny_Wertzik I used to use it | 10:36 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | raphink, all i get is a small blue box when i test it any ideas? | 10:37 |
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| raphink | hmm | 10:37 |
| raphink | you installed it well? | 10:37 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | ya it installed no prob | 10:37 |
| apokryphos | kkathman: also realised that you didn't originally link me to the 1.7 deb :P | 10:38 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | raphink, the moodin site is down so i can get no help | 10:38 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: really??? I didnt see that? | 10:38 |
| thoreauputic | apokryphos: sorry I was at the corner shop :) And no, not offhand | 10:38 |
| fatejudger | does anyone here know how to mount a samba share? | 10:39 |
| fatejudger | in the fstab | 10:39 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: the 1.7 I think was the newest...beta | 10:39 |
| apokryphos | thoreauputic: no worries; figured it out | 10:39 |
| apokryphos | kkathman: and you linked me to 1.6 =) | 10:39 |
| fatejudger | all the tutorials are for shares with passwords | 10:39 |
| apokryphos | kkathman: nevermind; the deb on their site for ubuntu should work | 10:39 |
| fatejudger | I need to know how to log in as a guest or something | 10:39 |
| fatejudger | and I don't know what that option is | 10:39 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | raphink, is there a GUI for moodin or do i just edit the .rc file? | 10:40 |
| fatejudger | damn, nobody knows? | 10:40 |
| fatejudger | Sonny_Wertzik: were did you get moodin? | 10:40 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: is that the source or a deb? | 10:40 |
| fatejudger | Sonny_Wertzik: the link is down | 10:40 |
| raphink | I didn't have to set anything for moodin Sonny_Wertzik | 10:40 |
| raphink | just installed it and it worked | 10:40 |
| apokryphos | kkathman: where? | 10:41 |
| raphink | and then used kcontrol to set the splash | 10:41 |
| raphink | that's it | 10:41 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | raphink, ahhh ok | 10:41 |
| kkathman | apokryphos: that ubuntu dev...thats a full.. not source? | 10:41 |
| apokryphos | kkathman: it would be nicer if they gave the deb src too, but they don't :P | 10:41 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | fatejudger, ya i know the site is down hehe umm i think i dl'ed it a few days before it went down | 10:41 |
| apokryphos | kkathman: http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/krusader/krusader_1.70.0-beta2-0ubuntu0_i386.deb | 10:42 |
| kkathman | nm I see it now | 10:42 |
| fatejudger | Sonny_Wertzik: do you have the deb or source? | 10:42 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | fatejudger, both | 10:42 |
| kkathman | sorry about all that apokryphos | 10:42 |
| kkathman | I just didnt scan further down the page | 10:42 |
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| apokryphos | kkathman: no problem -- I had forgotten how to quickly repackage a .deb anyhow, so good stuff | 10:43 |
| fatejudger | Sonny_Wertzik: would you mind uploading it to yousendit or something like that? | 10:43 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | fatejudger, to you? | 10:44 |
| fatejudger | Sonny_Wertzik: yeah | 10:44 |
| nikitis | I have a media button problem | 10:44 |
| fatejudger | Sonny_Wertzik: just upload it to yoursendit or something and msg me the link | 10:44 |
| fatejudger | Sonny_Wertzik: if it isn't too much trouble | 10:44 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | fatejudger, sure ...what machine u got .... want i586.deb? | 10:45 |
| fatejudger | Sonny_Wertzik: sure, the .deb works | 10:45 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | fatejudger, 1 sec | 10:45 |
| fatejudger | Sonny_Wertzik: k, thanks | 10:45 |
| fatejudger | does anyone know what's up with hoary-extras? | 10:46 |
| nikitis | Is there a way to link the Master and Master Mono indicators together in kmix? | 10:47 |
| nikitis | for Sound | 10:47 |
| fatejudger | nikitis: why do you need mono? | 10:48 |
| PJeremy | !sources | 10:48 |
| ubotu | A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic | 10:48 |
| nikitis | My Laptop uses it in conjunction with the Master volume, and it sounds 1000 times better when they are both on | 10:48 |
| fatejudger | Sonny_Wertzik: isn't that an rpm? | 10:48 |
| nikitis | When master volume is on, and mono is off, it sounds terrible | 10:48 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | fatejudger, ya but u can alien it | 10:49 |
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| fatejudger | true | 10:49 |
| fatejudger | well that didn't work too well | 10:49 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | fatejudger, ?? | 10:49 |
| fatejudger | it didn't send | 10:49 |
| fatejudger | www.yousendit.com | 10:49 |
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| fatejudger | use that | 10:49 |
| nikitis | So do you know of a way to link the two together so that if I lower the master volume, the mono lowers as well? | 10:49 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | fatejudger, ive never tried to send a file b4 | 10:50 |
| fatejudger | nikitis: why don't you just crank up the mono | 10:50 |
| fatejudger | nikitis: and then control the volume using the master? | 10:50 |
| nikitis | because when I hit mute with my keyboard | 10:50 |
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| nikitis | the mono doesn't close | 10:50 |
| nikitis | and it's still loud | 10:50 |
| nikitis | or volume down | 10:50 |
| nikitis | with my keyboard | 10:50 |
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| fatejudger | Sonny_Wertzik: you'd have to forward some ports to get DCC working | 10:50 |
| _noah | I'm going to upgrade my Kubuntu 5.04 install to 5.10. Is it better to do it in the console instead of having KDE started? | 10:50 |
| nikitis | the master goes down and then mono is still on | 10:50 |
| fatejudger | Sonny_Wertzik: just use www.yousendit.com | 10:50 |
| nikitis | they need to be linked | 10:50 |
| Sgep | Why isn't uclient a part of (k)ubuntu? | 10:51 |
| fatejudger | _noah: it really doesn't matter | 10:51 |
| Sgep | There's a package for it in debian | 10:51 |
| fatejudger | _noah: everything is loaded into memory anyway | 10:51 |
| musashiden | yet another problem shows up | 10:51 |
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| _noah | So, if I do it in the terminal, I shouldn't have any problems? | 10:51 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | fatejudger, iok whats ur email address? | 10:52 |
| nikitis | So anyway to link them? | 10:52 |
| nikitis | or make it so that when I hit my Keyboard button it does both? | 10:52 |
| nikitis | Like assign a keyboard button to do two things | 10:53 |
| musashiden | if i try to erase a folder from the hard drive i just formatted, i get this error: "Creating folders is not supported with protocol trash" | 10:53 |
| fatejudger | Sonny_Wertzik: did you get my PM? | 10:54 |
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| nikitis | Is there a way to assign one keyboard button to do two task? | 10:54 |
| fatejudger | nikitis: possibly, that seems a little weird though | 10:55 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | fatejudger, ya its on its way | 10:55 |
| nikitis | How would I do it? I have the keycode | 10:55 |
| fatejudger | Sonny_Wertzik: thanks | 10:56 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | fatejudger, np | 10:56 |
| musashiden | can anyone help me out for a quick minute? | 10:56 |
| upyuro | maybe assigning it to a script file that executes those 2 tasks? | 10:56 |
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| nikitis | Well not really, If I could assign the volume down button to turn down both master and mono | 10:57 |
| nikitis | my problem would be solved | 10:57 |
| upyuro | ah no idea then | 10:57 |
| nikitis | fatejudger, Basically, the master mono is for the subwoofer, and my laptop has a "mini-subwoofer" Without it, the sound quality is terrible | 10:58 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | fatejudger, i cant get moodin to work ... if you do can u let me know | 10:59 |
| fatejudger | Sonny_Wertzik: sure | 10:59 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | fatejudger, thx.... it says 1 to 5 min till it sends | 10:59 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | fatejudger, thx.... ummm make that 5 to 10min till it sends...its 2.1 mb | 11:01 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | fatejudger, ok its there | 11:02 |
| musashiden | Sonny_Wertzik: can you help me out real quick? | 11:02 |
| fatejudger | Sonny_Wertzik: ok, thanks | 11:02 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, sure | 11:02 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, if i can | 11:02 |
| musashiden | Sonny_Wertzik: if i try to erase a folder from the hard drive i just formatted, i get this error: "Creating folders is not supported with protocol trash" | 11:03 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, hmmm | 11:03 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, i missed what u did to fix ur stuff...what filesystem did u use? | 11:04 |
| musashiden | ext3 | 11:05 |
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| musashiden | i used that program you have me, from gnome | 11:05 |
| musashiden | to format it | 11:05 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, ya.....have you rebooted yet? | 11:06 |
| musashiden | erm, not really | 11:06 |
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| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, im not sure u would even have to but i my knowledge is limited there | 11:07 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, it couldnt hurt....eh um... | 11:07 |
| musashiden | ill give it a try. thanks anyways | 11:08 |
| Sonny_Wertzik | musashiden, ok | 11:08 |
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| beto | hello there | 11:14 |
| beto | someone can help me? | 11:14 |
| kkathman | whats up beto :) | 11:15 |
| raphink | hi beta | 11:15 |
| raphink | beto | 11:15 |
| raphink | sorry | 11:15 |
| kkathman | lol | 11:15 |
| beto | :) | 11:15 |
| beto | I have a network issue | 11:15 |
| raphink | what is it? | 11:15 |
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| beto | I connect to inet, but after a while (ten mins) it falls down | 11:15 |
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| beto | I've checked the temperature and it's ok | 11:16 |
| raphink | what falls down? | 11:16 |
| beto | the connection | 11:16 |
| raphink | the network or the comp? | 11:16 |
| kkathman | beto: the whole system goes down or just the net? | 11:16 |
| raphink | then it's not a temp issue | 11:16 |
| beto | I loose the link | 11:16 |
| beto | Just the net kk | 11:16 |
| raphink | can you still ping ? | 11:16 |
| raphink | like google or so | 11:16 |
| beto | Nup, I can't | 11:17 |
| raphink | like all of a sudden you get no network | 11:17 |
| beto | I recieve inet from another computer with a bandwidth limiter | 11:17 |
| beto | yep | 11:17 |
| raphink | dhcp ? | 11:17 |
| beto | yep | 11:17 |
| raphink | hmm | 11:17 |
| beto | I've tried to make it manually but I get the same result | 11:17 |
| raphink | can you still ping the other comp? | 11:17 |
| kkathman | sounds like the other computer is closing the connection | 11:18 |
| raphink | yes kkathman I think so too | 11:18 |
| beto | I've used the same conection with Win98 and it never felt... | 11:18 |
| raphink | it doesn't seem to be coming from your comp beto | 11:18 |
| raphink | hmm | 11:18 |
| raphink | well you said there's a bandwidth limiter | 11:18 |
| marvinalone | beto, it sounds like your dhcp lease is not being renewed | 11:18 |
| beto | aha | 11:19 |
| marvinalone | do you have dhcpcd running? | 11:19 |
| beto | I don't know | 11:19 |
| beto | How I look that? | 11:19 |
| raphink | beto | 11:19 |
| raphink | ps x | grep dhcp | 11:19 |
| raphink | or | 11:19 |
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| marvinalone | run "ps ax" and look for dhcp | 11:19 |
| raphink | sudo ps x | grep dhcp | 11:19 |
| beto | nup | 11:19 |
| beto | nothing is there | 11:19 |
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| raphink | hmm marvinalone I have dhcp too and I have no dhcpd running | 11:20 |
| raphink | as a client | 11:20 |
| beto | You mean that I have to be running a daemon for dhcp or something??? | 11:20 |
| raphink | I don't think so | 11:21 |
| marvinalone | i have to admit, i dont know the dhcp specifics on ubuntu, my address is static | 11:21 |
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| beto | It's pretty weird | 11:21 |
| marvinalone | but dhcp gives you an ip on a lease | 11:21 |
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| beto | and you know what? | 11:21 |
| raphink | oh right | 11:21 |
| marvinalone | and the lease has to be renewed | 11:21 |
| raphink | sorry marvinalone stupid me I switched to static ;) | 11:21 |
| raphink | hehe | 11:21 |
| beto | I have been connected for 15' and it doesn't crash... | 11:21 |
| marvinalone | usually, the daemon that does that is dhcpcd | 11:21 |
| beto | and how I start it? | 11:22 |
| marvinalone | leases can be of varying length, but it is unusual for the connection to be up for 10 minutes one time, and 20 minutes another time | 11:22 |
| raphink | beto: you can try dhclient | 11:22 |
| raphink | to renew your lease | 11:22 |
| beto | Ok | 11:22 |
| raphink | when you lose the connection | 11:22 |
| beto | let's see | 11:22 |
| raphink | you might have to run it as root | 11:23 |
| beto | It says this: | 11:23 |
| beto | sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 | 11:23 |
| beto | can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases: Permission denied | 11:23 |
| beto | Can't create /var/run/dhclient.pid: Permission denied | 11:23 |
| raphink | yes | 11:23 |
| beto | drop_privileges: could not set group id: Operation not permitted | 11:23 |
| raphink | run it as root | 11:23 |
| raphink | sudo dhclient | 11:23 |
| beto | beto@betox:~$ dhclient | 11:23 |
| beto | Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.2 | 11:23 |
| beto | Copyright 2004 Internet Systems Consortium. | 11:23 |
| beto | All rights reserved. | 11:23 |
| beto | For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP | 11:23 |
| beto | ok | 11:23 |
| raphink | and please don't paste more than 3 linutes in here | 11:23 |
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| beto | Ok I'm sorry | 11:23 |
| beto | new at IRC too :P | 11:23 |
| beto | It seems that it got started | 11:24 |
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| raphink | when you want to paste long texts, use the pastebine | 11:24 |
| raphink | pastebin | 11:24 |
| beto | Now what I have to do? | 11:24 |
| marvinalone | wait and see if it works? | 11:24 |
| beto | jajaj | 11:24 |
| raphink | ping | 11:24 |
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| raphink | whatever server you want | 11:24 |
| beto | Ok thanks a lot goys | 11:24 |
| beto | If I can still chatting with you it's working ;) | 11:25 |
| kkathman | yah | 11:25 |
| raphink | hahahaha | 11:25 |
| raphink | LOOOOOOOOOOL | 11:25 |
| raphink | sorry | 11:25 |
| raphink | taht should be put on bash | 11:25 |
| raphink | ;) | 11:25 |
| raphink | i'ts a funny one | 11:27 |
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| fatejudger | for some reason I can't get alien to run after apt-get(ing) it | 11:28 |
| raphink | what do you mean fatejudger ? | 11:28 |
| fatejudger | it just won't run | 11:28 |
| fatejudger | it doesn't show up in the KMenu | 11:28 |
| raphink | sure | 11:29 |
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| raphink | alien is not a gui program | 11:29 |
| raphink | so there's no reason to find it in the kmenu | 11:29 |
| fatejudger | it isn't? | 11:29 |
| raphink | if all progs were in the kmenu | 11:29 |
| raphink | the kmenu wouldn't fit on your screen | 11:29 |
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| raphink | no it isen't | 11:29 |
| raphink | alien is a console app | 11:29 |
| raphink | app | 11:29 |
| PJeremy | the kmenu is already bloated in the default imho.. | 11:31 |
| thoreauputic | fatejudger: alien is used like this : alien package.rpm (makes a .deb) | 11:31 |
| fatejudger | ok thanks | 11:31 |
| thoreauputic | then you install the .deb | 11:31 |
| fatejudger | that worked | 11:31 |
| fatejudger | I just thought that it was a GUI program | 11:31 |
| thoreauputic | nope | 11:31 |
| thoreauputic | :) | 11:31 |
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| fatejudger | I could have sworn it was when I was running Hoary | 11:32 |
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| fatejudger | maybe I confused it with Ark or something | 11:32 |
| thoreauputic | fatejudger: I've been using it for years - never seen a GUI for it | 11:32 |
| eriksti | if I install Eclipse using apt-get/Adept, what'll be the install directory? | 11:32 |
| thoreauputic | eriksti: you can see all the files it installs with dpkg -L eclipse | 11:33 |
| thoreauputic | or whatever the package name is | 11:34 |
| thoreauputic | dpkg -L eclipse | grep bin would show the binaries I guess (never installed eclipse ) | 11:34 |
| fatejudger | thoreauputic: somebody should make QT based GUI for it | 11:35 |
| fatejudger | thoreauputic: if I have time I might do that | 11:35 |
| thoreauputic | fatejudger: well, alien should be an absolute last resort, you know ;) | 11:36 |
| fatejudger | thoreauputic: true | 11:36 |
| eriksti | thoreauputic: I'm not looking for bin though.. I wanna unzip a thing which will let me use eclipse to develop php in the right directory, and I find it both in usr/share/eclipse and /usr/local/share/eclipse | 11:36 |
| fatejudger | thoreauputic: this package I just installed using alien isn't working out too well | 11:36 |
| thoreauputic | fatejudger: that's often the case with aliened rpm etc | 11:37 |
| eriksti | thoreauputic: plugins and features directories exist in both locations, that's why I'm confused | 11:37 |
| thoreauputic | eriksti: I see - well I'm not much help as I'm not familiar with eclipse - i assume there's a #eclipse or similar on freenode | 11:38 |
| eriksti | ok thanks | 11:38 |
| fatejudger | somebody needs to host the moodin .deb package | 11:38 |
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| IRCMonkey23 | how do you change the fonts for applications like firefox? they're gtk i presume | 11:41 |
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| kkathman | IRCMonkey23: in Firefox..Preferences | 11:43 |
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| IRCMonkey23 | kkathman: i think those are just for displaying websites. i meant the application itself.... | 11:43 |
| kkathman | IRCMonkey23: usually these are set by each application | 11:43 |
| kkathman | no | 11:43 |
| kkathman | IRCMonkey23: typically, any fonts in the application are application based | 11:44 |
| kkathman | Things on the desktop are set via system settings | 11:44 |
| IRCMonkey23 | i see | 11:44 |
| davedorm | kkathman: i got the admin stuff working, thanks for the advice | 11:45 |
| davedorm | kkathman: and now it sees my USB key drive | 11:45 |
| kkathman | great | 11:45 |
| davedorm | yeah, once I installed a few packages it's fine... where do I get codecs for Kaffeine? | 11:46 |
| davedorm | need to play .MOV and .AVI | 11:46 |
| leppards1 | hi i had a question regarding the display on my ubuntu installation. | 11:46 |
| ljl | from the breezy-extras-staging repository, i think | 11:46 |
| davedorm | what's the name of the packages? | 11:47 |
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| ljl | w32codecs | 11:47 |
| PJeremy | w32codecs | 11:47 |
| ljl | or something like that | 11:47 |
| davedorm | ljl: thanks | 11:47 |
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| davedorm | hmm | 11:51 |
| davedorm | how do I get that repo | 11:51 |
| davedorm | ?? | 11:51 |
| kinfo | i don't understand. | 11:51 |
| davedorm | ah, a bot | 11:52 |
| davedorm | lol | 11:52 |
| davedorm | how do I get that repository in Adept? | 11:52 |
| LjL | i'm not sure where it is right now... i found it looking for breezy-extras-staging on google | 11:52 |
| davedorm | ok, I am new to Adept | 11:52 |
| davedorm | it's frustrating because I am not a n00b, but new to Kubuntu | 11:53 |
| fatejudger | !repos | 11:54 |
| ubotu | I guess repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource | 11:54 |
| LjL | i don't use adept | 11:54 |
| LjL | you can do this, download http://backports.ubuntu.clemsonlinux.org/dists/breezy-extras-staging/restricted/binary-i386/w32codecs_20050412+breezy0.0.1_all.deb | 11:54 |
| LjL | and then do "dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412+breezy0.0.1_all.deb" | 11:54 |
| davedorm | kk | 11:54 |
| Tallia1-KubuntuB | hi guys | 11:57 |
| Tallia1-KubuntuB | is there a way to reduce the size of the characters in the terminal outside of kde? | 11:58 |
| Tallia1-KubuntuB | not the emulated terminal, the one that i access by ctrl-alt-f1 and so on.. | 11:58 |
| Tallia1-KubuntuB | mie is too big!! | 11:58 |
| fatejudger | LjL: I don't think that package is valid | 12:00 |
| fatejudger | LjL: it's only 10k | 12:00 |
| davedorm | well that did not work too well | 12:00 |
| Spudchat | tux magazine has a great article this month about installing w32codecs and the libraries needed to play most dvds | 12:00 |
| Spudchat | i used it and it works fine for me | 12:01 |
| davedorm | I installed the codecs but it still won't play a Quicktime | 12:01 |
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