=== dangerous [n=dangerou@200.253.108.76] has joined #kubuntu === Mars [n=mars@62.233.181.86] has joined #kubuntu [12:11] Mars I have already installed kx docker [12:11] Mars Is taht good choice or there is beter Mac docker? [12:11] Mars And main thing how can i configure it? [12:12] Oh [12:12] I founs === viviersf [n=cain@66.103.220.226] has joined #kubuntu === Nakkel [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:15] hey all === hippie [n=hippie@pc-200-74-48-152.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu === hansent [n=hansent@216.159.168.252] has joined #kubuntu === Mars [n=mars@62.233.181.86] has joined #kubuntu === seth_k_ is now known as seth_k|lappy === Zeep [n=tarin@80.248.206.155] has joined #kubuntu === mrmarcel [n=mrmarcel@p5485621E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === Mars_^ [n=mars@80.51.47.209] has joined #kubuntu [12:25] hm, this is a long shot, but is there a way to switch GUIs without exiting your programs? i want to switch from gnome to KDE. [12:26] Niomi: not unless your programs are console proggys running in a screen session [12:27] didn't think so, but i thought it was worth asking. out of curiosity, how do you keep your console/terminal session between GUIs? === Mars^ [n=mars@62.233.181.86] has joined #kubuntu === SuperGuppy [i=e-man@ip70-179-224-169.dl.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:28] hi guys === Niomi waves [12:28] Niomi: There is a way. [12:28] Niomi: It's not easy. [12:28] looks like I'm switchint to Kubuntu now that suse is going GNOME [12:29] Niomi: screen is neat li't program that survives everything but a complete shutdown [12:29] Niomi: Start /usr/bin/startkde [12:29] Niomi: Then kill off all gnome programs still running === kalenedrael [n=kalene@c-24-34-72-14.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:29] Niomi: Start /usr/bin/startkde again [12:29] Niomi: Kill all KDE programs that were started twice [12:29] Niomi: http://jmcpherson.org/screen.html === XtremXpert [n=admin@toronto-HSE-ppp4042284.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [12:32] shit i cant put kxdocker to the top of screec :/ [12:32] screen * [12:33] SuperGuppy, what do you think about suse switching to gnome? === _carlos [n=carlos@pool-141-150-14-129.mad.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:35] thanks juerd and nalioth, i'm going to have to play around with these for a bit :) === _carlos [n=carlos@pool-141-150-14-129.mad.east.verizon.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:36] Niomi: here is another window into screen (scroll down on the page) http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/07/06/unix_gems.html [12:38] nalioth, oh, thank you! yay, pictures! XD [12:39] Niomi: i love my "gnu screen" [12:39] Niomi: of course, i'm a console cowboy === _troy [n=troy@wnpgmb01dc2-32-137.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #kubuntu === _troy is now known as troy [12:40] nalioth: console cowboy.. what an image, hehe [12:40] console is lightning quick [12:40] console has minimal system footprint [12:40] nalioth: i'm currently too much of a pansy for the CLI but i really want to learn it and get used to it eventually. === Flixor [n=Flixor@ip5457002f.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu [12:41] but right now anything without a GUI or a program which involves something more complicated than clicking 'next' a lot is intimidating. [12:42] Niomi: here is a good read, then. http://www.cmm.uklinux.net/steve/ntt.html [12:42] Niomi: mice cause carpal tunnel === Black_Chaos [n=kevin@71-36-83-204.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu === federico_lu [n=federico@vodsl-8148.vo.lu] has joined #kubuntu [12:43] oh, this definatly looks like good reading. [12:44] Niomi: i'm full of good links [12:44] i didn't have problems with RSI until i got my laptop.. those touch pads are evil. i'm really looking forward to being fluent with the CLI [12:47] that, and tetris.. er, gnometris. i got addicted to it. pounding those arrow keys bother my wrists. XD === _root [n=root@212.254.198.62] has joined #kubuntu [12:48] <_root> hi people === Mars [n=mars@80.51.47.209] has joined #kubuntu [12:49] hi :) [12:50] Niomi: there is *tris for console [12:51] Niomi: time to become a console cowboy now? :) === bobesponja [i=pat@bas75-1-81-57-4-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:52] i did get a *tris for console, it took me a bit to figure out why it wasn't in the 'games' menu, hehe! [12:52] heh [12:54] how do I enable the page-up completion/search of the bash history (not a default apparently) [12:55] oh, that would be a good tip === Mars [n=mars@62.233.181.86] has joined #kubuntu === Delvien [n=dm@cpe-65-31-24-117.insight.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:07] Do i have to install TOTEM to get mpeg playback? [01:08] Delvien: you do not === OtisTick [n=family@h95087.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu [01:09] nalioth what is the procedure for getting mpegs to play, somehow they dont, i accidently removed KDE yesterday and im missing something i think [01:09] !multimedia [01:09] I heard multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia [01:10] sup nalioth [01:10] its me fujisan [01:10] nalioth do you know Eric Cordly? [01:10] SHRIKEE: i know no one [01:10] lol [01:11] thanks nalioth === dennis_p [n=pronk@213-73-234-202.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #kubuntu === hippie [n=hippie@pc-200-74-48-152.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:18] Well, this is me on kubuntu. Too bad about the insane Debian insatllation questions but it works. Now to install mythtv, well maybe sleep first. [01:20] oh what do you need sleep for [01:20] kubuntu is your new life [01:21] guys, does KDE offer a config panel for the gfx h/w or do I have to dive into some XFree86 (or similar) config file to set my card parameters ? === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #kubuntu [01:21] I remember years ago on a Mandrake install that I had to fool around with X config files [01:21] wasn't fun [01:22] OtisTick, you can set your resolution within kde [01:22] OtisTick, you cant change your video driver [01:22] the xorg.conf is pretty forgiving now days. [01:22] I saw the resolution settings [01:22] OtisTick, and refresh rate [01:22] kairu0: thanks but not what I need [01:22] I have to check that the drivers are ok [01:23] I'll go and look at xorg.conf [01:23] firephoto: thanks ! [01:25] OtisTick: it should be pretty straight forward with the pre configured xorg.conf. mine looks pretty sane here. ;) [01:25] kairu0: yeah who needs sleep :-) [01:25] firephoto: I really get the feeling there's no h/w accel happening [01:26] I'll snoop around, cheers [01:26] OtisTick: same here. i have a savage chipset (thinkpad) and the dri stuff seemed to install but it's not working. [01:27] one the new xorg rolls out it won't be an issue since 6.9/7.0 has the new savage and mesa drivers. [01:27] firephoto, my dri worked, but slowly, so i compiled my own badass video driver [01:28] i haven't looked into in depth yet. just tweaking things to get it to be how i'm used to now (gentoo) heh [01:28] have to learn to live with (use) sudo too i guess. [01:29] i figured my pageup/dwn issue. had to edit /etc/inputrc === furrybunny [n=jon@h-66-167-177-38.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:30] firephoto: when is that expected ? === hc [n=morten@0x5731f5ae.hrnxx13.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu [01:31] Aloha.... I just got ubuntu up running, and was wondering which codecs I should get .... so i can hear wma or what ever all these different things are called [01:31] OtisTick: no idea..... there could already be packges for the rc somewhere for all i know. my kubuntu experience is less than 12 hours and ubuntu experience was about 15 minutes with a live cd a couple months ago. lol [01:31] haha [01:31] excellent [01:31] hc: w32codecs, and vlc for wmv [01:31] I just managed to get this box online today [01:32] I was trying to get eth0 to talk to the net when in fact I should have been configuring eth1 [01:32] i ditched opensuse on the laptop after it got a little messed up with the 10.1alpha update. worked fine, just couldn't update or downgrade stuff. my big boxes are all gentoo though. [01:32] no indication anywhere about what h/w eth0 or eth1 were working on [01:32] *grrrr* [01:32] ok === CzarAlex [n=czar@pcp01476734pcs.nholnd01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:33] Since I have installed Kubuntu-desktop, how do I remove Gnome? What command do I run in the terminal? [01:33] ubotu: tell hc about w32codecs [01:33] CzarAlex: in Synaptic you should be able to uninstall Gnome [01:34] CzarAlex: why remove it? are you short on HD space? [01:34] (I think) [01:34] nalioth, No, but I hear that having gdm and kde on the same system can cause an error with the hotplug system recognizing USB storage devices [01:34] I also installed KDE ... should I use Synaptic or Adept ? [01:35] CzarAlex: that's the first i've heard of that [01:35] Thanks.. I just need a new source.list I guess.. or whatever that thingie is calle [01:35] nalioth, and Im having that problem. Lemme find the post. [01:35] I hadn't noticed Adept before, Synaptic was in the original install ... where did Adept come from ? [01:35] OtisTick: adept is a kde program [01:35] ok ... [01:35] so is there a rule of thumb which package manager to use ? === firephoto never knew/used synaptic.... saw adept right away. [01:36] adept is pretty nice, simple and lightweight it seems like. [01:36] OtisTick: both are just graphical frontends of apt [01:36] OtisTick: adept is the kde pkg manager === mustard5 [n=Mustard@121.a.001.sop.iprimus.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [01:37] nalioth: I heard you first time [01:38] nalioth, here is the issue im having http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74461 . I was able to use my USB thumb drives in hoary, but breezy doesn't like it. and it appears as if Im not the only one with the problem (which is a relief to me at least..) Post #12 (on the second page of the thread) indicates that having both gdm and kde can cause the problem, and since i dont use gnome on this machine, i thought I would take it o [01:38] ff and see if this helps my cause. [01:38] PJeremy: thanks, that clears it up for me === khris [n=khris@210.104.177.2] has joined #kubuntu [01:39] Ah found the kubuntu faq at http://kudos.berlios.de/ [01:39] CzarAlex: just remove gdm [01:39] nalioth, from synaptic? the gdm package? [01:40] CzarAlex: whatever means you prefer [01:40] nalioth, which ever doesnt break my system. :) [01:42] CzarAlex: you use kdm as your windowmangler? === psyke83 [n=psy@83.141.127.50] has joined #kubuntu [01:42] nalioth, I do. [01:42] Question: I understand the 2.6 kernel has a new NTFS driver that supports RW on static-sized files, right? Well, I'm wondering if it's possible to install Linux on a Windows XP machine into a loopback file (meaning I won't have to repartition), is this possible? [01:43] firephoto: hey hey hey ... nvidia-glx ... I'll install that [01:43] CzarAlex: go for it [01:43] nalioth, thank you. === furrybunny [n=jon@h-66-167-177-38.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:49] should i try sudo apt-get install linux-686 [01:52] well I'm doing it now because this is not a 386 pc :-) === slubman|Mobile [n=slubman@AMontsouris-152-1-8-113.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [01:53] you know upgrading kernel means a restart, pff I thought you didn't have to restarts linux all the time :-) [01:53] well, anyone of you have a copy of your Souce.list in... so i can grab some more things with apt-get..........? [01:54] !sources [01:54] A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic [01:55] Oh my, am I running hoary or breezy? [01:56] ubotu: tell hc about sources [01:56] dennis_p: open a terminal and type "cat /etc/issue" [01:57] breezy badger [02:00] Well it's 02:00 I'll reboot to check my new kernel and go to sleep bye :-) === unidad23 [n=unidad23@84-122-243-113.onocable.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:04] a === unidad23 [n=unidad23@84-122-243-113.onocable.ono.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Delvien [n=dm@cpe-65-31-24-117.insight.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:06] Anyway to get the battery icon from gnome onto KDE ? [02:06] kde has a battery monitor, iirc [02:07] nalioth oh , know the addy? [02:07] klaptop isnt doing it for me [02:09] Delvien: i geuss thats the one i was thinking of [02:09] nalioth its not as nice as gnome battery [02:10] plus i hate klaptop but there is nothing else for KDE that has more options [02:10] Delvien: in adept, search for "battery" === OtisTick [n=family@h95087.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu === peewee [n=peewee@163.Red-217-127-93.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:11] hi again ... so I have loaded NVIDIA drivers using apt-get ... I'm not seeing any immediate improvement to my desktop's responsiveness .... where do I have to look now ? === Qerub [i=qerub@h121n6c1o1100.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:11] I found a nvidia-settings app but it doesn't provide much [02:12] the Display pannel still just allows me to change definitions ... nothing very usefule there either [02:12] so, where can I check next what's up with these drivers ? [02:13] ubotu: tell OtisTick about fixres === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:15] nalioth: thanks ! [02:15] OtisTick: np [02:16] nalioth bah nothing what im looking for , guess ill just have to mod it ! === kairu0 is back [02:23] ...to save the day [02:23] hmm why wont my usb keyboard work if i dont reboot my pc when i plug it in? === hettar [n=hettar@ppp112-213.lns1.bne3.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:25] Delvien, so you are plugging in the keyboard while using X? [02:26] kairu0 X as in KDE? [02:26] Delvien, yes [02:26] kairu0 yes [02:26] kairu0 So X cant be running when i plug in a USB? thats crazy [02:27] Delvien, just a guess, but with your mouse uses a special device called /dev/input/mice that automagically works with usb,ps2,etc. but your keyboard uses an older Xfree86 driver thats not as smart [02:27] kairu0 i would of thought linux had usb support, plug and play kinda thing support [02:27] theres gotta be a way to do it === rickli [n=rickli@196.186.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu [02:29] kairu0 hmm well im working on a laptop , so i have a keyboard that works out of the box, it is just wierd i cant plug in a USB keyboard and have it work. [02:30] and its worked b4 so: ) [02:31] its worked b4 plug and play? [02:31] idk [02:31] ...in kde? [02:31] usually when i plug it in the computer is off [02:31] Laptops are wonderful [02:32] better than a desktop in alot of ways [02:32] i know. i use one too [02:32] what kind [02:32] sony vaio f series [02:32] o :( [02:32] wide screen ;) [02:32] Dell i6000d wide screen here [02:33] 15.4 [02:33] i love wide screen [02:33] me too hehe , plus they are really sharp in color and brightness [02:33] so much better for word processing and spreadsheets [02:33] yeah they are [02:34] i stopped using gnome because of my wide screen [02:34] why? [02:34] you know, theres two panels and both of em have lots of open space in the middle [02:34] the open space is even wider on wide screen [02:34] :) [02:35] i dont get why you stopped using gnome though? because of the taskbar and app bar? [02:37] yeah. they wasted too much space with empty grayness [02:38] oh hehe, i use the same kind of thing in KDE, i have the one main bar at top and the app bar at the bottom [02:38] i like Gnome ALOT, but KDE has better bluetooth support built in, and that was my main problem with Gnome [02:38] god damn microsoft mouse for bluetooth !! [02:39] works flawlessly in windows, but linux, I cant use forward/back buttons, and my scroll wheel doesnt work, === _robert_ [n=robert@cpe-69-135-187-21.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === _robert_ is now known as robertsim007 [02:41] lol [02:41] microsoft mice are blootooth?? [02:41] they have 2 [02:41] thats fucked up [02:41] version 1 and version 2, i have version 2 [02:42] nice mouse, very comfortable, but has support issues [02:42] i'd never buy a bluetooth mouse [02:42] i use an ibm mouse and it is really durable, but not wireless [02:42] kairu0: please, you're soiling my virgin screen [02:42] they use a special bluetooth translation or soemthing, and it doesnt communicate the special buttons to linux well [02:42] nalioth, lol sorry [02:43] kairu0 Wireless is great, since i only use a laptop, and i have internal bluetooth , so i dont have to use any USB adaptors, connects right to my laptop ootb [02:43] i see [02:44] in japan, its really hard to find new laptops with builtin wireless === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-6.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:44] so i dont :) [02:44] hey LeeJunFan [02:44] hey leejun :) [02:44] kairu0 order off the internet :) [02:44] hello [02:45] kairu0: your kiddin right? [02:45] kairu0 sony i beleive the f series you have has bluetooth, there is a way to connect it internally, but that means opening up the laptop [02:45] nalioth, no [02:45] Delvien, "connect it internally?" [02:45] nalioth japanese laptops are concieved on the Small form factor, bare bones systems to make them lighter [02:46] kairu0: you're tellin us that japan (leader in cool tech) has a shortage of wireless enabled laptops? [02:46] kairu0 make it so you dont have to have a USB dongle [02:46] nalioth no no , bluetooth , [02:46] ah, bt [02:46] nalioth, for that matter most new laptops only have 256mb ram (its kind of assumed that if you want more you'll request it) [02:46] BT is mostly american euro [02:47] kairu0 thats why SFF sucks [02:47] SFF? [02:47] small form factor [02:47] oh ok [02:47] teenee tiny laptops that are crappy [02:48] one of my criterium for a new laptop was builtin wifi, but it was too hard to find. i looked at sony, toshiba, and nec but none of em had it (unless I doubled my budget) [02:48] when did you look? [02:48] 3 years ago? [02:49] 3 months ago [02:49] hmm [02:49] and this was Akihabara dude [02:50] no built in wifi over there? you sure you were looking for the right thing? [02:50] aka the mecca of japanese electronics [02:50] oh yes. everyone i've seen does it with a pc card [02:50] mini PC card? [02:50] type 2 [02:50] some call it a mini wlan card [02:51] They will hardly ever say "internal ," or "built in" [02:51] if it didnt say PCMCIA it is internal [02:51] well or USB [02:52] i know how to shop for notebooks. i'd read the tag, and nearly all of em had a space for WIFI that was blank [02:52] thats wierd [02:52] and to be sure, i'd ask the salesman who confirmed it === levi [i=end@user-0ccemdl.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:53] I know this is like commiting a crime, but did you look at Dell.jp.com? i think thats the URL [02:53] i think what it comes down to is that custom configurations arent common, so anything above the factory build is your responsibility [02:53] the wifi card that is the size of a memory stick doesnt work? [02:54] nalioth im sure he doesnt want a dongle hanging out all the time [02:54] nalioth, those work too [02:55] http://www1.jp.dell.com/content/default.aspx?c=jp&l=jp&s=gen, can pick what you want ( for the most part ) in your system [02:55] Delvien, dell outlet stores are new in japan and have no stock [02:55] Delvien, so you can order anything, but you dont get it until 2 weeks later [02:56] kairu0 why would you go to a retail store to get a laptop? if its not what you want, 1) you probibly pay more 2) you can wait 2 weeks for something you want for your money [02:56] the wait is worth it [02:56] kairu0 im not trying to argue with you, im just saying, why pay for something that isnt exactly what you were looking for ? [02:57] Delvien: these arent dongles, they are the same size as a memory card and completely are internal, when in use [02:57] cuz i dont like to wait 2 weeks when i want it now [02:57] Delvien: they were designed for Palm PDAs [02:57] nalioth i thought you were talking about usb :P [02:57] i got mine in 4 days [02:57] Delvien, besides, i dont have a credit card in japan so i cant order online [02:58] ah [02:58] it takes 2 weeks here [02:58] you can buy mini pci wifi cards and install it yourself, im not sure about the F series, so youll have to do some reasearch [02:59] Delvien, i already have a type 2 card [02:59] type 2 card? that might be a sony thing, i dont know what that is === gdh [i=foobar@80-192-144-33.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [03:00] whee =) [03:00] hello [03:01] Delvien, i mean pcmcia type 2 card [03:01] kairu0 k i gotcha now [03:01] Delvien, good :) === _orangey [n=orangey@host-250.ken-64-141-60.norcomcable.ca] has joined #kubuntu [03:03] Delvien, now i just need a better network configuration [03:04] :) [03:04] 108 dynamic G here , [03:04] Delvien, since i'm usually not plugged in to a wired network, i wait for eth0 to time out every time i boot [03:04] disable eth0 and enable it when you plug in [03:04] i could do that [03:04] maybe i'll use ifplugd again [03:05] i always run on wirless unless i am in windows playing games [03:05] kairu0: I've not followed the thread - you can always press ctrl-c instead of waiting for eth0 to timeout on DHCP :) [03:05] gdh, i want a more intelligent configuration [03:05] BF2 takes alot out of wireless, that 108mb isnt as stable as wired [03:05] kairu0: hehe fair enough :) [03:05] :) [03:06] but the problem thats more pressing than that is that i cant type spanish accents although i can type french [03:06] i have a problem with "dead" keys [03:06] kairu0: put the "character palette" into your panel [03:06] kairu0: it's a panel applet [03:06] nalioth, i'd rather use the keyboard [03:07] and i CAN type them in gtk apps..just not in qt. [03:07] one time i saw an error about an unresolved symbol in qt3 keyboard.so [03:07] Is 'Alt Gr' not your 'Compose' key? e.g. pressing AltGR and = then c not give you ? [03:08] what is Alt Gr? [03:08] the 'right alt' key [03:08] nope it doesnt [03:08] it gives me backslash [03:09] maybe I've pished about with settings then :) [03:09] You can certainly make AltGR your Compose key in kcontrol [03:09] (I use GNOME now but I like this channel better than #ubuntu :) [03:10] i need to type all sorts of accents though [03:10] like [03:10] Yeh, compose is the gateway to just about every accent you could want [03:10] [03:10] ok here goes [03:10] altgr+ and ; or ' or # then the letter will put the appropriate accent on .. [03:11] i choose Right Alt is Compose in KDE keyboard config [03:12] its not doing anything [03:12] I have a UK keyboard so ; ' # are the three keys between L and Return... [03:12] I press ALTGR+' then release altgr then press e ... [03:13] altgr+ ; doesnt produce anything [03:13] correct, altgr+; only selects the accent type - you need to press an accentable key afterwards. [03:13] if that fails.. then I don't know.. "It works for me!" :/ [03:14] perhaps the app needs to be restarted, but I shouldn't have thought so. [03:14] so i type altgr + ; then i push e? (for example) [03:14] yes. [03:14] [03:14] is exactly what I get... [03:15] no go [03:15] maybe i have to use a different keymap [03:15] its set to spanish right now [03:15] Hm that could well be affecting it - I don't know :) [03:15] ok thnkx [03:17] gonna try something === regeya [n=shane@dialup-4.159.178.165.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu === ToyMan2 [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #kubuntu === kairu0 [n=kairu@YahooBB219201195046.bbtec.net] has joined #kubuntu === mustard5 [n=Mustard@060.a.001.sop.iprimus.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #kubuntu === pKoo [n=pkaariai@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi] has joined #kubuntu === [t0rc] [i=t0rc@cpe-71-66-124-167.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === [t0rc] [i=t0rc@cpe-71-66-124-167.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:49] hey all === murtaugh [n=murtaugh@c-24-20-253-153.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === [t0rc] [i=t0rc@cpe-71-66-124-167.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:52] hey I want to run this "syndaemon -d" everytime i boot, what file do I add that too? === [t0rc] [i=t0rc@cpe-71-66-124-167.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #kubuntu [04:04] murtaugh, can that be run as a non-root user? [04:04] no I don't believe so === halibut [n=foo@cpc1-lewi1-4-0-cust133.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:05] let me try [04:05] kubuntu vs mepis? [04:05] murtaugh, if it has to be root, i'd add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh [04:05] kairu, yes actually you can [04:05] oh ok [04:05] murtaugh, then add it to your .bashrc in your home folder [04:05] oh ... . duh.... [04:05] thanks :) [04:06] or easier yet, [04:06] to your .kde/Autostart folder [04:06] alright, thanks! I think i did it the most difficult way possible, I added a new entry to init.d [04:07] murtaugh: Ah you did it the classic proper way :) well done :) [04:08] you are a true asset to the royal air force [04:09] mm? === ToyMan2 [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:09] halibut, what did you want to say? [04:09] kairu0, how do the two compare? [04:10] halibut, that depends on who you ask :) [04:10] halibut: i believe you want to ask in #freenode, since you're most likely gonna get a biased answer here [04:10] halibut, kubuntu detected all my hardware. mepis missed my video card, sound card, monitor, and network card [04:11] kairu0, 0o [04:11] Mepis picked up all my hardware fine? [04:11] odd [04:11] it depends on the hardware i think [04:11] don't they have the same hardware detection? [04:12] they do not [04:12] possibly kudzu versus discover2 [04:12] mepis, iirc is done by one guy or a small team [04:12] i dunno. i just know that mepis didnt catch mine [04:12] ubuntu has dozens of developers [04:12] kubuntu has a great user called kairu0; mepis does not [04:12] :)) [04:12] kairu0: And very modest too :) [04:13] and gdh, who is any asset to the royal air force === gdh zips up his flight suit ... chocks away, chaps :) [04:13] lol [04:13] i think kubuntu has the brighter future as i look at how fast it grows and compare it with mepis on distrowatch [04:13] Why on earth do you associate me with the RAF ? I'm just a computer geek =) [04:14] on the other hand, mepis has a pyramid === hippie [n=hippie@pc-200-74-48-152.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:14] Can you expain how the switch user item on the kmenu works in kubuntu? [04:14] i can't [04:15] halibut: It starts another completely seperate X session on another virtual terminal [04:15] halibut: as the help box says, you switch between them using ctrl-alt-f7 and ctrl-alt-f8 [04:15] does it just do the same as "start new session" [04:15] has anyone been able to get kmid working? [04:15] I believe so, yes. [04:15] gdh, I don't actually have kubuntu install, I just saw it in screenshot === kalenedrael [n=kalene@c-24-34-72-14.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:16] halibut: I use GNOME, personally :) [04:16] I just like this channel more :) [04:16] and I used KDE for the last 2 years, so I know the odd thing about it. === Niomi [n=Niomi@cpe-65-185-39-209.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:16] gdh, now that i know that, you arent an asset to the RAF anymore [04:16] :D [04:17] IRC is truly full of weird people :) [04:17] AOL mode: [04:18] oMG YOO USED KKDEEE 4 2 YRZZZ? [04:18] omglolwtfyzyzyzy!!!11111!!!!11oneeeleven!!1111 === ToyMan2 [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:18] hahahaha === qbit [n=qbit@66-44-103-14.s268.apx2.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu === Niomi [n=Niomi@cpe-65-185-39-209.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:20] What is a model of soundcard compatible with kubuntu that has midi in and out? [04:20] really disappointed in novell/suse [04:21] heh, getting rid of their KDE people to focus on GNOME? :) [04:21] can't say I blame them from a business point of view- no point in splitting their efforts, really. [04:21] gnome looks nice, has some competent apps, but it seems really lackluster, and seems to be lacking. but that's just my opinion [04:21] plus there's the legally dodgy position of mono [04:22] okie... here's an annoying question.. my print screen button is AWOL. is there a screenshot manager for KDE, and how can I get to it? [04:22] mono's nothing to do with GNOME, really :) [04:22] Niomi: Yes, it's called 'KSnapshot' [04:22] look at the number of mono gnome projects popping up, though. [04:22] regeya, gnome seems more "welcome to 1999" then kde [04:23] don't forget the overly huge toolbar buttons.... [04:23] http://www.gnome.org/projects/f-spot/ <- nothing to do with gnome, eh? [04:23] KDE is great for people obsessed by 'theming' - GNOME is great for people who just want to get some work done. === mekgp [n=mekgp@46569.wrls.rawl.wy.vcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:23] thanks, i found it gdh :D [04:23] kde is good for people who like integration [04:23] Niomi: Cool :) [04:23] gdh: maybe if you use one app that doesn't need to talk to any other app.... lol [04:23] gdh: I thought that for a time. [04:24] well, so far i actually like gnome better, but KDE has better support for laptop hibernation so i use it a lot.. i can see myself getting used to it, though. [04:24] gdh: I looked at how often I resorted to firing up a term in both desktops, and I did it less while using kde. so for me, kde won. [04:24] mm? GNOME's integration is pleasant... e.g. OpenOffice can read/write directly to gnome-vfs "smb://" shares [04:24] regeya, i second that [04:25] i like the options KDE has, but i like gnome's look a bit better.. i love konquerer though [04:25] I don't mind doing things from terminal, in fact I keep a term open all the time on os x. but why should I have to resort to, for example, burning video DVDs from a term? [04:25] i like how gnome has been putting off memory usage optimizations since the reagan administration [04:25] LoL [04:26] Yes, RAM is so expensive thesedays :) [04:26] personally, I use the Web window scheme, the crystal icons, and the light3 widget style. [04:26] poor excuse, gdh. [04:26] hehhe :) [04:26] I'm about to go to bed - I'm only trolling =) [04:26] gdh: heh. though the...hang on. === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #kubuntu [04:27] light3 huh.. i'm gonna look that up [04:27] gdh: in all seriousness, I've seen that the gnome folks are working on memory usage. [04:27] i was unsucessful installing new KDE themes -- does anyone want to recomend a newbie page for it? [04:27] gdh, you dont have to go to bed if you say that qt is your momma [04:27] stuff like 20M for a trashcan applet are a bit stupif... [04:27] I think once they figured out that their nice, light, simple, featureless gnome desktop took up more ram than winxp [04:27] they should work on it [04:27] I should have finished that all on one line [04:27] I like GTK and Qt each for different reasons, and there I'll leave it, for my eyes are already closing. [04:28] 'night [04:28] nna [04:28] Niomi: I always ran into issues trying to install whole "themes". [04:29] regeya, is light3 on kde-look? [04:29] firephoto, i'm glad i'm not the only one. :) [04:29] hang on...it ships with kubuntu. Light Style, 3rd edition [04:29] it's ultra-simple. === Flixor is now known as flixor-sleep [04:30] you werent kidding [04:30] kairu0: reminds me of one of the old default gnome themes [04:30] that widget has been around forever hasn't it? [04:30] indeed it has. [04:31] I used 'motif' forever [04:31] someone should make a gnome theme for kde..... run some user tests.... heh [04:31] i use plastik [04:31] even after better theming came out, I used the kde1 windowborder and motif style [04:32] okay, more newbie questions: i have this panel on the top that seems to be functioning as a menu bar. how do i get rid of it and get the menus to act normally? [04:32] screenshot: http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/ [04:32] errr, wrong copy and paste [04:32] http://img492.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hug8af.jpg [04:32] sorry. [04:32] and back then, gnome was largely for the eyecandy freaks! [04:33] ok a question.... is media:/ broke on a default install? I plug my usb stick in and I get an error in the konq window that pops up but it is mounted at /media/usbdisk/ [04:34] in fact.../me switches back to kde1/motif/kde2-colorscheme...mwahahahahaha! [04:34] Niomi: you have the menu bar enabled i do believe.... [04:34] WELCOME TO 1997 [04:34] niomi: system settings -> Desktop -> Behavior -> "Menu Bar at Topi of Screen" - None [04:35] oooh thank you! i looked everywhere for that setting, i must've overlooked it [04:35] Niomi, np [04:37] now if only I could find those pre-1.0 icons [04:38] and of course I'll need to disable antialiased fonts to complete the effect [04:38] you know, back when I had a slightly-out-of-focus 15-inch monitor, motif didn't look bad [04:38] lol [04:39] nowadays, though...dang. [04:42] and there was another motif style, one that matched default pre-rasterman-ized gtk1 better. [04:42] what was that called... === murtaugh [n=murtaugh@c-24-20-253-153.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:43] what is gam_server its thrashing my cpu cycles [04:47] murtaugh: it's a filesystem monitor, and it's a known bug [04:47] nalioth, thanks === juanpa [n=juanpa@Dynamic-IP-cr2001185428.cable.net.co] has joined #kubuntu === ubotu [n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === ubotu [n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === Niomi [n=Niomi@cpe-65-185-39-209.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:06] yes, now that i've played around with it i am definatly becomming fond of KDE [05:06] don't tell the big N guys that. === ubotu [n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [05:08] does anyone want to recomend a nice dark theme? :) === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:09] Niomi: the console? [05:09] i think there's one included... it's dark but I don't know how nice it is.... heh === ToyMan2 [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === regeya [n=shane@dialup-4.159.107.39.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:12] nalioth: yes, good point.. i'm doing my homework, promise ;) [05:14] hello. how can i get help with openoffice.org? [05:14] which setting do i go to to change the tooltip? [05:15] juanpa: better to just ask a question === sambagirl [n=jazzy@c-24-99-26-225.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:18] test [05:18] success [05:19] ok [05:19] i switch from gnome to kde === ubotu [n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [05:20] i do this mainly becaues i wanted to enjoy the many applicatoins kde has to offer. [05:20] there are many i notice. === jynx [n=jynx@cpe-72-129-82-106.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:20] however, i am having difficulties with streaming. [05:20] KDE <3 [05:20] sambagirl: go on [05:20] sambagirl: you can use kde apps under gnome and gnome apps under kde [05:20] nalioth: Here's my question. I've just installed Ubuntu 5.10, and in Openoffice 2.0 when I do File > Wizards > Install new dictionaries nothing happens. What can I do to get the wizard working? [05:21] nalioth: but to get full benefit from KDE apps... [05:21] well [05:21] Tm_T: that is true [05:22] sambagirl: use kubuntu for a while and see which DE you like best [05:22] juanpa: can you install new dictionaries using adept? [05:22] sambagirl: you was talking about streaming problem... [05:22] well the reason i switch to kde is because when i use synaptic to install things, it said he woudl remove things and i did that for things and lo and behold i could not logon again to the computer for the gui so i end up reinstalling ubuntu 3 times now. so i decide to just use 1 or the other in the beginning or such. [05:22] juanpa: I'm not sure, I think its broken for some reason [05:23] allo all :) [05:23] juanpa: But all its supposed to do is load a file called dicOOo [05:23] juanpa: you can download the dictionary installer here: http://ftp.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/dictionaries/dicooo/DicOOo.sxw [05:23] anyway helix does not do anything and so i install realplayer to compliment it but it still does not do anything. frustraiting. [05:24] laszlok: Many thanks. I'll try to and get back to you. === ubotu [n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [05:25] i'm trying to listen to music. another thing when i try to install VLC it says to edit a file so i do but to my surprise the file is empty. is that normal? don't ask me the file i dont recall it's name now. but it was a .list file [05:26] yo laszlok how goes it? [05:26] when i install things there are no icons for them or they dont appear under the correct drop down dialog box either. why is that? [05:27] kkathman, it goes well [05:27] sambagirl: you mean a sources.list? vlc is in the repos waiting for you [05:27] sambagirl, are they kde things? [05:27] !info vlc [05:27] vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB [05:27] kkathman: what part of the world are you in? [05:27] sambagirl: vlc is in universe [05:27] anyone know how to unblock on kopete? [05:27] well some are kde things and i know it's waiting form ime [05:28] vlc or videolan is wonderful. [05:28] wonderful. i want to do broadcasting but it's to complicated to setup [05:28] sambagirl, if its kde it should appear in the menu within a few minutes or after a logout and login [05:28] ok here is a real basic question and then i can rest my keyboard for this time. [05:29] is there a way to save my x-chat setup with servers and channels so i can launch later and it goes to them automatically? then i have time to put my thoughts down and ask better questions. [05:30] sambagirl: xchat? don't ask any help from me... [05:30] wotnarg: are you using MSN in kopete? [05:30] laszlok: I am [05:30] ok no problem [05:30] laszlok: aim [05:30] sambagirl: just that, I feel xchat somewhat pain in my ass ;) [05:30] sambagirl: why don't you try Konversation? [05:30] sambagirl: err.. do you mean just autojoining to channels? [05:31] to be honest ubuntu is complete with everything you need just has learning sharp leaning curve [05:31] sambagirl: yes, edit your server list [05:31] what is konversatoin? [05:31] sambagirl: KDE irc-client [05:31] sambagirl server list then press edit === digitalhobbit [n=mirko@ppp-69-236-157-249.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === kairu0 watches team america world police [05:32] wotnarg: To unblock using msn is as simple as right-click (on contact), then go to the bottom item menu, and select unblock user [05:32] well i'll be i saw that but i do not know what it was but thanks i'll try it now. === _jazzy [n=jazzy@c-24-99-26-225.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _jazzy is now known as sambag [05:34] tha was fast [05:34] test [05:34] what do people prefer? [05:35] this looks so different. [05:35] you mean better?-) [05:35] haha [05:35] well xchat has buttons for functions [05:36] laszlok: For aim, theres no option to do that. === ubotu [n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [05:36] sambagirl: what functions do you mean exactly? [05:36] T N S I P M B K L [05:36] for channel settings at the top [05:37] next to title for channel [05:37] sambagirl: channel modes? those can be enabled in settings [05:37] wotnarg: settings --> configure --> accounts --> modify --> contacts [05:37] can you do multiple servers? [05:37] yes [05:37] yes [05:37] it's faster [05:37] ,aube [05:37] maybe [05:37] well thank you for the enlightenment [05:37] wotnarg: tell me if it works, i don't actually have a aim account to test it out [05:38] i did not even know it was there. [05:38] gn8 [05:38] can you have multiple servers open for multiple channels? === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.32.211] has joined #kubuntu [05:38] laszlok: I get to the accounts part, but if I click to modify an account, there is no contacts option. [05:39] sambagirl: yes [05:39] well since i am in the kde channel what are these other applications? they are just acronyms wiht no icons. [05:40] kopete kppp krdc krfb [05:40] ppp probably for dsl connectoin [05:40] wotnarg: Sorry, im not sure if its possible then [05:41] laszlok: *nod* Thanks. [05:41] ubuntu is masterpiece almost as wonderful as being on an amiga. [05:41] sambagirl: all of those should have icons. there should be also descriptions for them [05:42] ahh kopere is like gain [05:42] kopete [05:42] Kopete <3 === ubotu [n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [05:42] sambagirl: no, not "like gaim" !! [05:43] Kopete is soooo much better [05:43] ;) [05:43] breakfast -> [05:43] it looks nicer true [05:44] breaklfast? lol [05:44] what's funny in it? [05:45] ... [05:45] "Breakfast <3" ;) [05:45] yes [05:45] breakfast <3 [05:45] ;) [05:45] :) [05:45] 06:45 here [05:45] I really need it -> [05:46] wow, an ubuntu-amiga comparison. weird. [05:46] then again, that's comparing gnome-amiga. [05:46] meh. [05:46] well i am going to try to install ubuntu on an amiga. [05:46] should work [05:46] if gnome is comparable to amiga os, I wonder what all the fuss was about with the amigas...;-) === ToyMan2 [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:47] sambagirl: you go grrl! [05:47] well amiga has CLI [05:47] or perhaps it says somethign good...amiga 1988 == gnome 2005 [05:47] i'll let you know how it goes [05:48] with amigaone it is ppc so it should be able to use ubuntu ppc version. === propagandhi [n=propagan@d58-104-151-61.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [05:50] i just discover JuK [05:50] how cool [05:51] sambagirl: in a couple of months you can discover xubuntu [05:51] xubuntu? [05:51] i know xwindows [05:52] i have used linux 1.0 slackware before. [05:52] !xubuntu [05:52] methinks xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu [05:52] how do i configure the output i get no sound. [05:52] there are alot of operating systems out there. to numerous to expound on. === JoeBu [n=joe@208.63.89.187] has joined #kubuntu [05:53] output of sound is different for linux i see, you must set the output from defaulting to whatever i see. [05:56] is there some kind of applicatoin that has all kinds of dials and gadgets and things like that? somethign really spectacular to explore? === propagandhi [n=propagan@d58-104-151-61.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu [] [06:04] i wonder what could such an applications possibly be === blueyed_ [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #kubuntu [06:06] Konqueror? ;p [06:11] i tell you in just a second. [06:13] visit www.salemradiolabs.com/rivendell [06:13] i have no idea how to install this. === dlausevic|breezy [n=daniel@ppp-69-229-235-34.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === wofl [n=wofl@210.22.132.46] has joined #kubuntu [06:15] videolan is another masterpiece. [06:15] there are others too. [06:15] look at the gallery it says everything. [06:16] we have video toasters for amigas so that explain why i like these things. [06:17] what is SuSE? [06:17] another linux distribution [06:18] ok [06:18] thank you === propagandhi [n=propagan@d58-104-151-61.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === margouyab [n=margouya@110.94.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:19] hello === robotgeek [n=robotgee@ppp-70-247-168-35.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:20] hi [06:21] i'm a newbie in linux and kubuntu [06:21] i tried to install amateur radio applicaotins in synaptic but i cannot find where they went after the install. [06:21] and i've got a little problem [06:22] sambagirl: try typing their names in a terminal window [06:22] ok [06:22] what is your little problem margouyab? [06:23] or properties in synaptic to know where the files was installed [06:23] my desktop get wrong [06:23] your no newbie margouyab ;) [06:23] thank you [06:23] brb === crimsun [i=crimsun@hacked.org] has joined #kubuntu [06:25] actually i've got no link for my hdd and cdrom [06:25] on the desktop [06:25] but in the desktop settings i asked for that [06:26] the cdrom icon should appear when you insert a cdrom in a drive [06:26] yesterday there was no problem but for last night i lost the link [06:27] did you upgrade some kde-stuff? [06:27] i think so [06:28] with synaptic i installed some stuff [06:29] well, some kde-updates did the same thing for me. don't really know why. but all the stuff can be found in /media [06:30] yes i thound them here to [06:30] but was it media:/ ??? [06:32] well, it shows a kde-view of mounted things. /media is the locations they are really mounted [06:32] i've got a link who look for media:/ but it don't work anymore [06:33] /media work yet === kairu0 watches Cube [06:35] ok my dad was a amatuer radio ham operator, is anyone using QSSTV? [06:35] sorry i can't help [06:36] it's used for slow scan tv === dlausevic|breezy [n=daniel@ppp-69-229-235-34.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net] has left #kubuntu [] === musik [n=tuxfan@59.93.247.101] has joined #kubuntu [06:46] can i use breezy debs on hoary???????? [06:47] my google-fu is failing [06:47] why might I be getting "Could not read title information for DVD" from kaffeine? [06:47] I seem to have the correct packagesinstalled [06:47] err [06:47] can i use breezy debs on hoary???????? [06:47] packages... installed [06:47] musik, it probably a bad idea [06:48] musik: why not update? [06:48] musik: try not to get your fingers stuck on the shift and / keys === robotgeek [n=robotgee@ppp-70-247-168-35.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has left #kubuntu [] [06:48] ;) [06:50] when your using ubuntu for audio why is threre always a problem with an output sound device? i just install audacity and it says i have no playback device. i have a sound card, no? [06:51] ok.....got that [06:51] xmms i had to change the output device to make it work, what is the issue with audacity? [06:51] anyone know? === Mason059 [n=doug@d141-215-9.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:52] sambagirl: you probably don't have hardware mixing on your sound card and there isn't a sound server running. kde has arts running usually. [06:52] ahh... solved my own problem: should be /dev/hdc instead of /media/cdrom0 [06:54] grrrr: libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys <--- is taking forever [06:54] ok thanks firephoto [06:54] Hi all. Anyone find KDM slow to come up after shutting down (ending session) after upgrading to Breezy? [06:54] so i'm guessing it's a difference of kde running (thus arts) and it not running. . (just a guess though) [06:55] anyone had any larger bugs than the artsd problem with kde 3.5b2? [06:55] Mason059: breezy IS slower than hoary....thats why ive gone back to hoary...feel much happier now.. [06:55] so in other words i am out of luck with audacity, no? [06:55] Hoary ran great...Breezy is good for the most part, although you're right about it being slower [06:56] I had a lot of trouble with x after upgrading, but seems to be OK now (except for sound in xgalaga) [06:57] sambagirl: try killall artsd [06:57] And of course kdm restart (which takes several minutes)...sometimes I have to login and startx [06:57] kairu0: running it on gentoo without issue. (not that it's very relevant) ;) [06:57] ok i just did it icewt [06:58] now i can run it again? audacity? [06:58] sambagirl: yes [06:58] firephoto, lol === nalioth is now known as noirequus [07:00] i wonder what the arts issue is with kubuntu packages? arts doesn't have any problem the way it's built in gentoo, seems like they'd build a new package for it..? [07:00] ok first i have to wait for this one to stop ;). i was trying to run 2 at same time. but this one is locked up. i try killall audacity but it still sitting there. [07:00] brb [07:00] sambagirl: killall -9 audacity [07:01] how long should getting CSS keys for a DVD take? [07:02] that sure did it! [07:02] thanks [07:02] Does anyone know if the unofficial user guide has been upgraded for Breezy? Also, where might I find backports? [07:03] still not giving me an output device..drat [07:03] I don't think backports exist yet [07:04] I thought so, but it never hurts to ask :) [07:05] Mason059: see the last post in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=447499 [07:06] Thanks tarheelcoxn === mustard5 [n=Mustard@244.a.002.sop.iprimus.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [07:09] np [07:11] ugh [07:11] dvd playback == fail === _user [n=user@202.150.13.123] has joined #kubuntu [07:20] more accurately, libdvdcss == fail [07:25] ok a big problem i discovering with unix audio/video is decoders plugins why dont they include these things in the installs? [07:27] is this some license issues? [07:29] yes === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has left #kubuntu ["--out"] === wtfhappened [n=love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu [07:29] quicktime, real, wmv, they're all proprietary === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #kubuntu === margouyab [n=margouya@110.94.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === nalioth [n=Apple@ubuntu/member/pdpc.bronze.nalioth] has joined #kubuntu === nalioth is now known as johndarkhorse === johndarkhorse [n=Apple@ubuntu/member/pdpc.bronze.nalioth] has left #kubuntu [] === Delvien [n=dm@cpe-65-31-24-117.insight.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === Sonny_Wertzik [n=Sonny_We@ip24-250-11-28.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:47] can someone help me with a mac os top panel question? [07:48] sure [07:49] kairu0, hi [07:49] kairu0, are u talkin to me? [07:50] yes [07:50] hi [07:51] kairu0, ok thx ...well when i add a system tray to the mac os panel the icons are to big for the bar...do you know how to shrink them or make the bar wider? [07:51] kairu0, im using the default crystal svg icons [07:51] you are talking about a kde mac-style top bar right? [07:52] kairu0, ya thats right [07:52] hang on let me try [07:52] kairu0, okie thx [07:52] cntrl H to show hidden files right? [07:53] Sonny_Wertzik, my icons are the right size..and i dont see an option to change the icon size [07:54] Sonny_Wertzik, what if you make the panel bigger, and smaller again [07:54] Anyone know how to map the volume button to Headphone jack as WELL as Master? [07:54] kairu0, really?? your sys tray icons fit in the bar without being cut off? [07:54] Delvien, maybe you'd need a second button for that [07:55] Sonny_Wertzik, yes. and my top panel is "normal" size [07:55] kairu0, i cant change the width of that panel at all [07:55] kairu0 i have multimedia keys on my laptop , i just need to map the up down volume key to headphone jack too , not just master [07:55] Sonny_Wertzik, right click on the panel, configure, make it larger, then make it smaller again [07:56] kairu0, when i do that it just make my kicker bigger [07:56] kairu0, mac os panel stays the same [07:56] Sonny_Wertzik, right click on the panel at the top (the title bar) [07:58] kairu0, ok and i pick configure...then i pick normal and my kicker get big [07:58] Sonny_Wertzik, is your kicker on the top panel too? [07:59] kairu0, no [08:00] has your panel had correct icon sizes in the past? [08:01] kairu0, well i just tried to use the mac os panel for the first time so i dont know [08:01] kairu0, i have tried making the font bigger and it works but i have to make any fonnt like 16 [08:02] kairu0, btw im using kde 3.4.3 === murtaugh [n=murtaugh@c-24-20-253-153.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:02] Sonny_Wertzik, this sounds like a problem that would go away if you logged out and logged back in [08:03] kairu0, yes i tried that ....no dice [08:03] kairu0, i must have screwed it up somehow [08:03] I just setup my flashdrive with an encrypted filesystem is there software for kde or gnome that automates the process of cryptsetup create , and mounting? [08:04] kairu0, it would be nice if i could set the size of the bar from confure [08:05] Sonny_Wertzik, i can find an option to do that [08:05] oops [08:05] kairu0, for the mac os bar? [08:05] can= cant :P [08:05] kairu0, oh hehe i thought i really screwed it up hehe [08:06] lol i dont know what it is === voicu [n=voicu@86.106.134.105] has joined #kubuntu [08:06] have you changed konqueror icon sizes before? [08:06] nm I googled it, i swear I ask a question and 30 seconds later I have found the answer in google ;) === voicu [n=voicu@86.106.134.105] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [08:06] kairu0, yes === Mason059 [n=doug@d141-215-9.home.cgocable.net] has left #kubuntu [] [08:07] Sonny_Wertzik, well, the panels might inherit icon settings from konqueror. i dunno [08:08] kairu0, ya i think trere must be a config file thats holding on to some setting i had before [08:08] kairu0, now if i can only find it hehe [08:08] kairu0 do you know how to map the volume of the headphones to a button ? [08:08] Delvien, no, i only know how to make the kmix applet in the tray control a different channel [08:09] kairu0, thx for the help... i really appreciate it. [08:09] kairu0 how do i do that? [08:10] Delvien, right click the speaker, choose "select channel" [08:11] kairu0 do i have to restart X? [08:12] Delvien, no [08:12] kairu0 ah why i ask is because none of them are working for headphone [08:13] Delvien, on my laptop it all goes to "Front" [08:13] kairu0 no matter what channel i select it always changes Master [08:14] kairu0 i think there is something wierd with my mapping of my keys === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.9.179] has joined #kubuntu [08:14] Delvien, could be [08:16] kairu0 do you know where i change the mappings for volume ? they arent in system settings === voicu [n=voicu@86.106.134.105] has joined #kubuntu [08:18] Delvien, thats funny cuz i looked for them about an hour ago in the hotkeys config. i swear they were there in the last kde [08:20] aye gnome has them built in , but ever since i moved into KDE they have never had them === Sonny_Wertzik [n=Sonny_We@ip24-250-11-28.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:24] know how to reduce the amount of memory used in KDE ? [08:27] nuh uh [08:27] im working on the volume keys thing [08:32] what is kio-http ? === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:34] Delvien, i did it. i mapped my volume keys [08:34] cool how === Nakkel [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:36] Delvien, open up the volume control, then right click on the icon of the channel that you want to map [08:37] hmm i mapped them still doesnt work , let me try and restarting X [08:37] it wont help [08:37] try a different combination [08:37] i used shift+f3 [08:37] trying now [08:37] hey, it works :D, thanks [08:38] what works? [08:38] volume shortcuts [08:38] :D === qbit [n=qbit@66-44-103-14.s268.apx2.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com] has left #kubuntu ["Returning] [08:38] hmm [08:38] i didn't know i could do that [08:38] oh sweet hehe [08:38] it works with regular keys, but not my Volume up and down buttons [08:38] yeah its nowhere in the menus [08:38] Delvien, what brand is your laptop [08:39] dell [08:39] hmm [08:39] there are special daemons for sony vaio and thinkpad keys, but i dunno about dell [08:39] Mute, V down, V up, Play/pause, prev, next, stop , [08:39] aye no one has writtin one [08:41] ill play around with keyboard mappings, because the Dell one doesnt work for me === dennis_p [n=pronk@213-73-234-202.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #kubuntu [08:59] well it doesnt work, but i just mapped it to F11 and F12, guess no programmers own dell :P [09:00] once i learn linux more, ill be the dell guy for drivers :P [09:00] already dove into python, and have experience with C++ [09:00] so hey. [09:00] ty for your help kairu0 === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:01] help, artds keeps crashing [09:01] where can I find the beta 1 repos? [09:01] what player are you using [09:01] I need to get the old artds back [09:01] I'm not using a damn player [09:01] can t you adept it [09:01] no [09:01] I need the old repos [09:01] dont get an attitude === hussam [n=Hussam@194.146.153.38] has joined #kubuntu [09:04] fatejudger: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php [09:05] I found it already, thanks [09:05] I need to restart to get artds out of memory [09:05] fatejudger: ok, sorry [09:05] and to stop crashing [09:05] yeah, I had to go back from beta2 also === njk [n=njk@tuk-dsl-228-024.olympus.net] has joined #kubuntu === digitalhobbit [n=mirko@ppp-69-236-157-249.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has left #kubuntu [] === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:17] ok, I need help quickly [09:18] I just tried to follow the ubuntu wiki [09:18] to get arts working in KDE 3.5 again [09:18] and I tried to remove libarts like it said [09:18] and replace it with the older one [09:18] but instead it's removing everything [09:18] and I mean EVERYTHING [09:18] along with libarts [09:19] apparently tons of package depend on libarts [09:19] *packages [09:19] but it stopped when it needed to stop kdm [09:19] so it's paused for the moment [09:19] what should I do? [09:21] is anyone not afk? [09:22] i'm here, but I can't help you [09:22] sorry [09:22] shit [09:22] well I'm wondering whether they're packages I can easily reinstall [09:22] I doubt it though [09:22] it's every package that needs sound through arts [09:22] which is pretty much every KDE application [09:23] stupid fucking rats [09:23] hmm, maybe you could check the KDE forums, or a KDE irc channel [09:23] they're in my attic [09:23] 2 of them [09:23] haha [09:23] i have raccoons [09:23] it's scratching on the drywall above me [09:23] hold on, I'm going to bang on the wall [09:23] k [09:24] lol [09:24] it stopped [09:24] oh damnit, it just started up again === propagandhi [n=propagan@d58-104-151-61.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu [] [09:24] I swear, that rat is going to eat through this drywall [09:24] hahah [09:24] and poke his little head out === libben [n=libben@c80-216-84-228.cm-upc.chello.se] has joined #kubuntu === faked [n=faked@83-65-250-103.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [09:30] crap, X is dying === Zinoc [n=david@nan77-2-82-242-116-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:34] does he have any last wishes? === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === ChaKy [n=chaky@83-131-139-215.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu [09:38] ok, I'm in bitchx now [09:38] so now even though X went down I can still communicate [09:39] I'm trying to apt-get update to get the beta 2 packages back [09:39] but it's saying something about not having a public key === faked_ [n=faked@83-65-250-103.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [09:39] public key is not available === chaky_ [n=chaky@83-131-129-239.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu [09:45] Just get the key here : http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg [09:46] And sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg [09:46] And it's good :) [09:48] whats with amaroK? it takes like 50-60 % cpu === MenZa` [n=menza@0x50a1605a.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu [09:48] He is maybe scanning your collection ? [09:48] and it blinks the cursor in a steady interwall with globe on the pointer. and the equalizer in the bottom is stalling in the same pace as the pointer animation [09:49] Zinoc: I have no web browser === propagandhi [n=propagan@d58-104-151-61.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [09:49] KDM died [09:49] wget it [09:49] wget? [09:49] I can't copy and paste [09:50] wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg [09:50] hmm [09:50] it only appears when im on the TAB "Current" [09:51] if i choose home while the song plays it goes away. [09:51] Zinoc: can you paste that command again? [09:51] the apt get one [09:51] Strange... never had this bug [09:51] I can't scroll up in BitchX [09:51] sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg === Tallia1-KubuntuB [n=andrea@cust-65-110-27-27.sfu-reznet.connectwest.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:52] hi guys [09:52] Hi [09:52] where i can find lecture files for ktouch? (typing training)..? [09:53] Zinoc: the key thing worked [09:53] fatejudger: Great [09:53] Zinoc: but all my packages are still missing [09:53] ? [09:53] Zinoc: even with an apt-get upgrade [09:53] Did you update ? [09:54] Zinoc: well see, what happened is I deleted libarts in adept [09:54] Zinoc: because it's this fix for KDE 3.5 [09:54] Zinoc: but it deleted all the programs that were dependant on arts [09:54] Zinoc: I don't know how to get them back [09:54] Zinoc: unless I reinstall [09:54] Yes, download the broken arts packages, and you will fix it later [09:55] Zinoc: which I was about to do [09:55] Zinoc: yes, but all my packages are gone [09:55] Zinoc: how do I get them back? [09:55] Can't you redownload them ? [09:55] Zinoc: I can't remember them all [09:55] Zinoc: there were so many [09:56] Try to get amarok-engines, it will download arts dependency [09:56] Zinoc: maybe I could apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [09:56] Zinoc: no see, you don't get it [09:56] Zinoc: it erased every last KDE program on my computer [09:56] Zinoc: plus a few others [09:56] apt-get needs an undo [09:56] lol [09:57] :) === pointwood [n=pointwoo@212.242.222.232] has joined #kubuntu [09:57] And if you apt-get kubuntu-desktop, as you say ? Does it works ? [09:57] Zinoc: I was about to try that [09:58] ok [09:58] ahhh kubuntu is now on mark shuttleworth desktop.. congrats ;-) [09:58] I might as well just reinstall [09:58] it has to install tons of stuff [09:58] it'll take me just as long [09:58] and this time I know what to do [09:59] As you prefer === chaky_ is now known as ChaKy [09:59] ok, thanks [09:59] reinstalling then [09:59] by the way [10:00] for future reference [10:00] how do I just replace a package [10:00] instead of uninstalling all the packages that depend on that package? [10:00] Riddell: where have u hide the amarok packages? cause the new ones is not in repos. [10:01] I don't know how using apt-get, but if you download the .deb manually, just sudo dpkg -i package.deb [10:01] Zinoc: and that will install over a newer package? [10:01] yes [10:01] Zinoc: okay, thanks :D [10:02] reinstalling... [10:02] even if you downgrade [10:02] Good luck :) === _liquidbinary_ [n=user@pool-71-103-68-197.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:04] <_liquidbinary_> Does anybody know how to play clanbomber? [10:04] no. but i love neverball and supertux [10:05] <_liquidbinary_> kairu0: I'll download and try [10:05] <_liquidbinary_> clanbomber seems to make no sense [10:08] _liquidbinary_, if you have a gamepad, neverball is awesome [10:09] <_liquidbinary_> kairu0: going to download it right now === voicu [n=voicu@86.106.134.105] has joined #kubuntu [10:17] anyone knows why the amaroK debs is not in the repos ? === Snifffurt [n=A@84-73-69-203.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [10:20] can someone tell me what command to use to install a .deb package? [10:20] sudo dpkg -i .deb [10:20] ok, thanks [10:20] np === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === _buz [n=buz@80-218-105-74.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu === MenZa [n=menza@0x50a1605a.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu === _buz is fighting kwifimanager [10:22] <_buz> it displays my wlan but wont let me connect to it? === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D3B1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #kubuntu === propagandhi [n=propagan@d58-104-151-61.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu [] === mustard5 is now known as mustard5_tv [10:48] sudo make install or just make install forgot =) [10:48] ./configure && make && sudo make install ? [10:51] the last one [10:51] make install is sudo because it copies the files to your OS's various folders === bimberi [n=bimberi@ppp-37-102.grapevine.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === rikva [n=rikva@debiancenter/user/rikva] has joined #kubuntu === josh^^ [n=josh@p54A92C99.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === kings [n=kings@dr4g0nn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === Zinoc [n=zinoc@nan77-2-82-242-116-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === kings is now known as dragonkh === MadKazuya [n=MadKazuy@60-241-30-180.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [11:16] how do i install amarok from debs properly? cause ive downloaded the ones riddel made. amarok and arts and gstreamer. but when i dpkg -i it, it tells me it deps on gstreamer and arts and engines. but when i try to install those it tells me it needs deps amarok =) === gregor [n=gregor@p85.212.15.113.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu === gregor [n=gregor@p85.212.15.113.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [11:18] ive uninstalled the amarok and arts and gstreamer that was installed from repos before i did this [11:18] when i run ./configure it says "no acceptable C Compiler found in $PATH" but i installed gcc 3.4 from kynaptic, what can I do? [11:19] anyone, pls? [11:19] voicu: try installing the build-essential package [11:20] k, 10x [11:21] how can i set deps while doing dpkg -i on debs ? [11:22] sudo dpkg -i *.deb where your amarok and engine debs are [11:23] voicu: yw :) [11:23] uh, one more question, what do I use to install a .rpm? [11:23] or sudo dpkg -i filename1.deb filename2.deb ? [11:23] You have to convert it in deb first, using alien [11:23] libben: yes [11:24] alien .rpm? [11:24] Yes, sudo alien .rpm [11:24] got it === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu === _john [n=john@58.69.88.40] has joined #kubuntu === dzts [n=dzts@85.187.201.93] has joined #kubuntu === _JakubS [n=qba@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === gregor [n=gregor@p85.212.15.113.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:47] can I mount windows shares in the fstab in Breezy now? === gregor [n=gregor@p85.212.15.113.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [11:47] sure [11:47] mount [11:47] are you sure? [11:47] !mountwindows [11:47] it isn't work in hoary [11:47] mountwindows is, like, totally, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically) [11:48] it is/was [11:48] lol [11:48] *didn't [11:48] sorry, it's 3 AM here [11:48] kind of tired [11:48] user error then ;) [11:48] trust me, if you do all correctly, it does work just fine [11:50] wait [11:50] these are local [11:50] I need to mount networked windows shares [11:51] !mountwindowsshares [11:51] fatejudger: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about [11:51] !samba [11:51] samba is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently [11:51] that second one doesn't work [11:51] it's broken [11:51] and crappy === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:58] hows dapper comming ? any ground braking yet? === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:59] !repos [11:59] well, repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource === seezer [n=seezer@p54951919.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === virgis [n=virgis@active.ibl.lt] has joined #kubuntu === blas [n=blas@245.Red-83-59-227.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === nimatar [n=nimatar@213-140-6-100.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #kubuntu === relas [n=GLA@194.231.189.78] has joined #kubuntu === pipoun [n=pipoun@dan75-1-81-57-18-87.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === _slubman [n=slubman@AMontsouris-152-1-48-226.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === propagandhi [n=propagan@d58-105-69-159.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-156-91-111.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu === knubbe [n=knubbe@host019a.turbinen20.se] has joined #kubuntu === pipoun [n=pipoun@dan75-1-81-57-18-87.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === knubbe [n=knubbe@host019a.turbinen20.se] has joined #kubuntu === _torc [n=torc@cpe-204-210-191-184.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === flixor-sleep is now known as flixor === C0r3Dump [n=coredump@81-172-25-72.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #kubuntu === knubbe [n=knubbe@host019a.turbinen20.se] has joined #kubuntu === BFA|WoRsTeNBoY [i=BFA_WoRs@d54C242F5.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:30] why can't I mount Windows samba file shares? [12:30] it isn't working [12:30] !samba [12:30] well, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently [12:30] that one [12:30] it doesn't work === Seazor [n=Seazor@235.163-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #kubuntu [12:31] is everyone asleep? [12:31] I'd like to sleep [12:31] lol === knubbe [n=knubbe@host019a.turbinen20.se] has joined #kubuntu [12:32] fatejudger: perhaps smb4k might be your thing [12:32] can it permanently mount network shares? === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.192] has joined #kubuntu === pipoun [n=pipoun@dan75-1-81-57-18-87.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp219-172.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:37] samba wants a password when it tries to mount it at boot [12:37] and then it says "access denied" [12:37] but there is no password === pipoun [n=pipoun@dan75-1-81-57-18-87.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:38] fatejudger: perhaps you could try setting an account, and you might need to edit the local security plicy on the windows PC === knubbe [n=knubbe@host019a.turbinen20.se] has joined #kubuntu [12:40] propagandhi: why can't I log in anonymously? === flo_ [n=flo@i577B1E52.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:40] !samba [12:40] somebody said samba was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently [12:40] fatejudger: does the windows computer allow guest logins, is the firewall on, does the local security policy on the windows machine allow acces [12:41] are the shares set to allow the 'Everyone' group access [12:41] all those factors can impact [12:41] yes [12:41] it all works [12:41] I can manually browse the samba network from KDE [12:42] but when I put it in the fstab [12:42] it wants a password [12:43] fatejudger: well, if thats the case, try using the administrators username and password. I dont permanently mount any of the shares I access myself I just access them as needed [12:44] propagandhi: there isn't any username and password [12:44] fatejudger: well create a new user then === knubbe [n=knubbe@host019a.turbinen20.se] has joined #kubuntu [12:44] propagandhi: why do I need to do that? [12:44] propagandhi: why can't I just put in the command for anonymous logging in? === tbn [n=t@0x50a1217f.hrnxx7.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu [12:45] fatejudger: because it is asking you for those details, if you do it you'll know whether its a solution or not === knubbe [n=knubbe@host019a.turbinen20.se] has joined #kubuntu === knubbe [n=knubbe@host019a.turbinen20.se] has joined #kubuntu === _toni [n=toni@p54B2BE53.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === tbn [n=t@0x50a1217f.hrnxx7.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has left #kubuntu [] === tbn [n=tony@0x50a1217f.hrnxx7.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu === ernie [n=toni@p54B2BE53.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === asbin [n=asbin@aristote.asbin.org] has joined #kubuntu === knubbe [n=knubbe@host019a.turbinen20.se] has joined #kubuntu === knubbe [n=knubbe@host019a.turbinen20.se] has joined #kubuntu === propagandhi [n=propagan@d58-105-69-159.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu [] === torc_ [n=torc@cpe-204-210-191-184.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === trj [n=tjones@81.187.255.231] has joined #kubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu === trj [n=tjones@81.187.255.231] has left #kubuntu [] === fenoamby [n=fenoamby@AAmiens-154-1-29-48.w83-192.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === fenoamby [n=fenoamby@AAmiens-154-1-29-48.w83-192.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === noirequus is now known as nalioth === Lathiat [i=lathiat@ubuntu/member/lathiat] has joined #Kubuntu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #kubuntu === nxv_ [n=matrix@dslb-084-056-119-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === Spudulike [n=root@87.80.140.13] has joined #kubuntu [01:29] How do I regain access to the web based CUPS admin tool? === obontu [n=obontu@80.179.185.46.static.012.net.il] has joined #kubuntu [01:30] hey, i'm trying to install the kubuntu desktop package, but it's asking for my breezy cd, i don't have it atm, can't i d/l it instead? [01:31] obontu: Is this through synaptic or similar? [01:31] yes [01:31] synaptic [01:31] i'm currently using gnome [01:32] If you go into the repository admin section you can untick the call to CD. [01:32] oh right [01:32] silly me [01:32] thanx === _slubman is now known as slubman|Mobile === _pete [n=pete@chello213047124050.36.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _JakubS_ [n=qba@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === torc_ [n=torc@cpe-204-210-191-184.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:57] is there any easy way to mount windows partitions and have access to them? [01:58] ubotu: tell torc_ about mountwindows [01:58] I've used a winmac_fstab script, and it doesn't seem to work correctly with Breezy because I now cannot access my NTFS partitions without being sudo -s... [01:59] i appreciate the suggestion, but as I stated after your typing, i've tried it and it's screwed me over with permissions that can't change. Help? === mth`MAW [n=konversa@e176238155.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu [02:01] Moinsen [02:01] .dj [02:01] Soory wrong channel [02:01] :( [02:01] Hello, everybody. I ment [02:01] :) [02:03] what can i do if i have libssl0.9.7 but a program says it needs libssl0.9.6 and doesn't 'see' the newer version? [02:03] torc_: that is a permissions issue in fstab [02:04] winmac_fstab asks you if you want to make the drives accessible by everyone [02:04] nalioth: is there any way to reverse the winmac_fstab script? like "uninstall"it? [02:04] i hit yes voicu [02:05] but what if I hit no...is there a way I can change it? [02:05] look for /etc/fstab [02:05] torc_: edit your /etc/fstab for the correct permissions === ralph [n=ralph@c87240.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu [02:06] voicu: should I just delete that file? === knubbe- [n=knubbe@host019a.turbinen20.se] has joined #kubuntu [02:07] torc_: if you delete your fstab, you've killed your system === chase [n=stuart@stuartma.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [02:08] delete the lines that define your windows partitions [02:08] nalioth: should I just delete the lines with the drives that I don't want to have show up and then re-run the script? because im not sure how to go about changing perms to what i want [02:08] probably the last lines [02:08] ah k === _andre [n=andre@bl7-192-202.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #kubuntu [02:09] there's a mount called proc on mine..? [02:09] ? [02:09] torc_: i can help you with that === _andre is now known as n1ck0 [02:10] torc_: open a konsole, please [02:10] done [02:10] torc_: now type kdesu kate /etc/fstab === fatbrain [i=fatbrain@85.8.3.120] has joined #kubuntu [02:11] mhmm [02:11] can I enable 'utf-8' in a terminal window? [02:11] (if that made any sense...) [02:11] fatbrain: should be enabled in konsole already [02:12] Lathiat: ok, perhaps it's just elinks that doesn't know how to display utf-8 text. [02:12] Can I set up my printer in Kubuntu so I can use it to print from another kubuntu machine? [02:12] fatbrain: quite possibly [02:12] fatbrain: try w3m perhaps [02:12] fatbrain: or compile your elinks with utf-8 support [02:13] nalioth: good suggestion. [02:13] nalioth: what next? [02:14] torc_: on the line(s) with ntfs in them, make the "ro,users,pid=blah,uid=blah" say "ro,auto,umask=000" === torc_ is now known as [t0rc] === ChaKy [n=chaky@83-131-129-239.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu [02:17] <[t0rc] > # [02:17] <[t0rc] > # [02:17] <[t0rc] > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 [02:17] <[t0rc] > /dev/sda2 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [02:17] <[t0rc] > /dev/sda3 /home ext3 defaults 0 2 [02:17] <[t0rc] > /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs defaults 0 0 [02:17] <[t0rc] > /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs defaults 0 0 [02:17] <[t0rc] > /dev/sda6 none swap sw 0 0 [02:17] <[t0rc] > /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 [02:17] <[t0rc] > /dev/hdb /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 [02:17] <[t0rc] > /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 [02:17] <[t0rc] > #Added by winmac_fstab utility [02:17] <[t0rc] > /dev/sda5 /media/0\040GB\040Disk\040(sda5) vfat rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0 [02:17] <[t0rc] > dammit. the exact thing i didn't want to do. [02:17] holy cow === {slacky} [n=slacky@kde/developer/gianni] has joined #kubuntu [02:17] <[t0rc] > please forgive me, stupid mistake on my part. [02:18] <{slacky}> hello [02:18] <{slacky}> I'm trying to use KUbuntu [02:18] <{slacky}> what is the ubuntu user password? [02:19] <[t0rc] > your password [02:19] {slacky}: it is setup when you install === peewee [n=peewee@163.Red-217-127-93.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:21] hola [02:21] <{slacky}> Lathiat: for the LiveCD === Originoo [n=susee@p508DF072.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:21] <{slacky}> I'm trying to change the screen resolution, but I can't [02:21] {slacky}: oh, there is no password [02:21] {slacky}: why not? [02:21] alguien ha tenido un problema con motif en Opera? [02:22] is it not in the list? [02:22] if not unfortunaely thats a bug in detection your monitor that takes a bit to fix [02:22] ... [02:22] <{slacky}> Lathiat: well no it just tell me 640x480 [02:22] sorry [02:22] somebody had been a problem with Motif in Opera? === _chase [n=stuart@stuartma.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === martinjh99 [n=martin@62-30-33-77.cable.ubr01.pres.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [02:25] Guys is there a way of making the default settings for Konq the KDE ones and not Kubuntu? I seem to recall a wiki page... [02:25] martinjh99: visit the faq at kubuntu.org [02:26] ta! Will do. === ChaKy [n=chaky@83-131-129-239.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu === _chase is now known as chase === fenoamby [n=fenoamby@AAmiens-154-1-29-48.w83-192.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === fenoamby [n=fenoamby@AAmiens-154-1-29-48.w83-192.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === chase [n=stuart@stuartma.gotadsl.co.uk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:28] I have some problems with a ftping... and it tells me over and over while im downloading from the ftp. that i need to retry login because of to many simultainously connections from my ip [02:28] i wanna check what hogs it more then just konq. [02:28] is there any way to sniff what hogs to that ftp server? [02:28] libben: ethereal [02:30] <{slacky}> but in with way I upgrade all the system against security bugs? [02:30] <{slacky}> with adept? [02:31] if i reinstall a package from kynaptic will it look for the last version? === manveru [n=manveru@dsl-wien1-35-208.utaonline.at] has joined #kubuntu [02:32] i don't want to follow by myself the entire dependency tree that it needs === _john [n=john@58.69.88.40] has joined #kubuntu === _john [n=john@58.69.88.40] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:32] voicu: it will [02:33] voicu: adept always uses the latest version, unless otherwise told not to [02:33] ok, thanks [02:33] why did you write in red, was that an annoying question? [02:35] voicu: you see this in red? [02:35] and this line is normal? [02:35] hilight? [02:35] :-) [02:35] yes [02:35] :) [02:35] voicu: your client is telling you something. (people are talking about you) [02:35] aa [02:35] :)) [02:36] my client is very smart :)) [02:36] now you just have to learn to preface nicks in front of your text [02:36] so those people know who you are talking to [02:36] nalioth: like this? === _manveru [n=manveru@dsl-wien1-35-208.utaonline.at] has joined #kubuntu [02:37] voicu: like that exactly. on the larger busier channels, nick prefacing is almost required to carry on a conversation [02:38] nalioth: ok, i'll try to get use to it [02:39] if you visit #ubuntu during a busy time, you'll see why it's necessary === {slacky} [n=slacky@kde/developer/gianni] has left #kubuntu [] === rumburak [n=rumburak@1-user9.scnet.cz] has joined #kubuntu [02:44] i cant run Enemy territory with sound, someone has same issue ? === tenco [n=martin@p549A5903.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:45] hi all [02:45] how can i tell kopete that it should automatically reconnect when it is disconnected? === [Surge] [n=[Surge] @tpr-ip-nas-1-p118.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #kubuntu [02:47] tenco: settings > moduls .. i dont have eng version, but there it is [02:48] rumburak: too. german version. === fenoamby [n=fenoamby@AAmiens-154-1-29-48.w83-192.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === fenoamby [n=fenoamby@AAmiens-154-1-29-48.w83-192.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:48] rumburak: which module? === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@p54ADD179.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:49] tenco: i write it in eng, i donno german ... read about all, nice features === [t0rc] [i=t0rc@cpe-71-66-124-167.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:50] rumburak: hmm, yes. but i cant find the apropriate module for automatic reconnection. [02:50] I accidentaly borked my cupsd.conf. Where can I download the original (K)ubuntu version? [02:50] tenco: connection state in english ;] [02:51] tenco: fifth from bottom [02:51] rumburak: ah. but i cannot change the settings ?-( [02:52] tenco: if u stay with cursor on that name, popup tell u what it works === _manveru is now known as manveru [02:52] tenco: how === knubbe- [n=knubbe@host019a.turbinen20.se] has joined #kubuntu [02:53] rumburak: ah. thanks. :) [02:53] tenco: np === _JakubS_ [n=qba@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === _chase [n=stuart@stuartma.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === mustard5 [n=Mustard@036.a.002.sop.iprimus.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === _chase [n=stuart@stuartma.gotadsl.co.uk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _chase_ [n=stuart@stuartma.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === obontu [n=obontu@80.179.185.46.static.012.net.il] has joined #kubuntu [03:05] hey, i just install kde on ubuntu for the 1st time, is there a cd ripper? [03:06] sure there is [03:06] kaudiocreator [03:06] you can even use konqueror as a cd ripper [03:06] really? [03:06] how? [03:06] which is what I do since it's really easy [03:06] yes; use the audiocd:/ kioslave [03:06] obontu: if you have an audio CD in your player [03:06] is there a package manager for kde? other than synaptic? [03:06] type [03:06] audiocd:/ [03:06] in the address bar [03:06] obontu: Adept is Kubuntu's Package Manager [03:06] you get a list of virtual encoded files, in virtual folders [03:07] obontu: there's adept, kynaptic, kpackage, kpkgmanager [03:07] where can i find all of those? [03:07] the only ones worth really using are adept or kpackage [03:07] obontu: to encode, you just need to take the virtual files from audiocd:/ and paste them somewhere on your hard drive [03:07] yeah i see tose virtual encoded files [03:07] really? kewl! [03:07] how do i change the quality? [03:08] I'm not sure you can set the quality with this method [03:08] at least I don't know how [03:08] never wondered [03:08] ok, so where can i find adpet and all those other package managers? [03:09] adept is already installed [03:09] KPackage you can get from the Universe repository [03:09] where in the menu i mean [03:09] obontu: guess; where would you put a package manager? ;-) [03:10] simple question, how i can make my Kubuntu look super sweet ? some link ? ;] [03:10] rumburak: kdelook.org [03:10] rumburak: kde-look.org [03:10] found it thanx [03:10] http://www.kde-look.org [03:10] :) [03:10] any good email klient in kubuntu and can i start kmail only without going to it thru kontact? [03:10] rumburak: there you'll find all you need to tune your distro [03:11] libben: KMail is the best [03:11] thx all [03:11] and if you don't want to run it through kontact, then just alt+f2 -> kmail [03:11] kde looks really confusing after using gnome alot [03:12] perhaps; easy to get used to though [03:12] i suppose [03:12] consistency is pretty key in KDE apps [03:12] yes [03:12] what do you mean by that? [03:13] consistency in applications is maintained; i.e. menu structure, button usage, terminology etc etc [03:13] ah ok [03:13] where do i change the native lang.,.. i forgot :( [03:13] and integration too [03:14] kde apps are made to work with one another [03:14] yup [03:14] like [03:14] if you get a message from a contact on kmail [03:14] when i load "lang selector" it won't let me change to anything but english [03:14] it'll tell you whether this contact is online on kopete [03:14] can i handle gmail with kmail ? [03:14] nice [03:14] obontu: did you install the i18n for your language? [03:14] KDEPIM itself is a testimony to great integration [03:14] rumburak: yes you can [03:14] rumburak: of course [03:14] il8n? [03:15] what's that? [03:15] i18n obontu [03:15] it's international packages [03:15] yes i think i did [03:15] oh there [03:15] now i can === lumpi [n=lumpi@p57859230.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [03:16] hmmm === _chase_ [n=stuart@stuartma.gotadsl.co.uk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [03:21] where does webmin store it's password? It's not in /etc/passwords is it? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #kubuntu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === chase [n=stuart@stuartma.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === `Nomad [n=ggodin@CPE000d88f1925d-CM000a73668bc0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:34] hi === martinjh99 [n=martin@62-30-33-77.cable.ubr01.pres.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === _chase [n=stuart@stuartma.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === _StarScream [n=am@84.93.95.48.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #kubuntu === _JakubS_ [n=qba@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === D1ng0 [n=dingo@210.5.67.231] has joined #kubuntu === pv_ [n=pv@a212-54-27-55.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu === `Nomad [n=ggodin@CPE000d88f1925d-CM000a73668bc0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === D1ng0 [n=dingo@210.5.67.231] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === ChaKy [n=chaky@83-131-129-239.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu === digitalhobbit_ [n=mirko@69.106.57.105] has joined #kubuntu === martinjh99 [n=martin@62-30-33-77.cable.ubr01.pres.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [03:46] Anyone else only get the floppy disc in the Storage Media window?? === _chase [n=stuart@stuartma.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === _JakubS_ [n=qba@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === _chase [n=stuart@stuartma.gotadsl.co.uk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === vicks [n=chatzill@c-d58870d5.037-42-67626719.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [03:53] any good program for editing the informationi for mp3's im getting werid collection in amaroK with alots o unknown etc [03:53] easytag [03:55] Good to know there will probably be shipit cds for Kubuntu! [03:55] HURRAH! [03:55] Juerd: that's pleasing to hear === jairbubbles [n=julien@gai69-3-82-235-14-100.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:59] when i want to install something with kynaptic, it says i have to uninstall a lot of other packages that i don't think i should uninstall (like Kubuntu desktop and English Language pack), what's the problem? === C0r3Dump [n=coredump@81-172-24-220.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #kubuntu === lechat [n=lechat@l06m-213-44-79-16.d4.club-internet.fr] has joined #kubuntu [04:01] this package must be vital [04:01] <_buz> can someone explain me why mark shuttleworth now uses kubuntu but initially funded ubuntu as gnome distro? [04:01] it's not vital, it's a game [04:01] voicu: well there's dependancies problems === lechat [n=lechat@l06m-213-44-79-16.d4.club-internet.fr] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:02] !kubuntu [04:02] Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/ [04:03] _buz: why does it matter? i use x/k/ubuntu all the time [04:03] <_buz> i'm just wondering [04:03] _buz: Probably a wrong understanding of ease of use. [04:03] _buz: GNOME is easier to learn to use initially [04:04] <_buz> i was trying to imagine where we'd be if ubuntu had been kde from day 1 [04:04] _buz: KDE is easier to use once you're past that level of skill. === nalioth prefers the terminal [04:04] <_buz> i could never take gnome longer than 5min [04:04] <_buz> but then again, i was using the console for years and years [04:04] _buz: Because it felt limiting? [04:04] <_buz> it's FUGLY [04:04] <_buz> and dumbed down, yes [04:04] <_buz> an incoherent mess === Zeep [n=tarin@80.248.203.232] has joined #kubuntu [04:05] <_buz> it's like all of the bad parts of osx with none of the good parts ;) [04:05] Hah [04:05] _buz: it's bad parts of osx combined with windows ;p [04:06] <_buz> i'd chose win over gnome any day === _StarScream [n=am@84.93.95.48.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #kubuntu === Pupeno [n=pupeno@host193.201-252-28.telecom.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu === tarin [n=tarin@80.248.203.232] has joined #kubuntu === threeseas [n=threesea@c-24-99-72-117.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === nalioth is now known as nalioth_zZz === le_chat [n=lechat@l06m-213-44-79-16.d4.club-internet.fr] has joined #kubuntu === olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-157-215-138.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu [04:10] if you already have ubuntu breezy 5.10 then is there a way to make it kubuntu able instead of downloading the full kubuntu? [04:10] Yes. [04:10] Apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [04:10] s/A/a/ === MenZa` [n=menza@0x50a1605a.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu [04:11] thankyou === ep [n=ep@ip68-228-169-106.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:16] <_StarScream> question, is there any way under linux you can get it so that when you press the eject button on the cd drive that it will automagically unmount and eject ? [04:17] Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth announced that he was now using Kubuntu on his desktop machine and said he wanted Kubuntu to move to a first class distro (according to /.) [04:17] <_StarScream> ep: i just read that [04:17] <_StarScream> sounds cool [04:17] yeah === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === Zeep [n=michael@80.248.203.232] has joined #kubuntu === spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === Zeep [n=michael@80.248.203.232] has joined #kubuntu === Zeep [n=michael@80.248.203.232] has joined #kubuntu [04:25] someone using umbrello here? === desti [n=desti@p50920409.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === Zeep [n=tarin@80.248.203.232] has joined #kubuntu === vicks [n=chatzill@c-d58870d5.037-42-67626719.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [04:35] how i can get registered here ? [04:35] what was the package to install for amarok MP3s ? === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:37] libmad-ocaml ? === Saw^ [n=uke@dsl-hmlgw1-fefcdc00-131.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu === buga is now known as buga-away === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu === XtremXpert [n=admin@Toronto-HSE-ppp3750602.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === hippie [n=hippie@pc-200-74-48-152.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:50] hello peeps :) === JRV [n=noneofyo@egardia.csn.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #kubuntu === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #kubuntu === _orangey [n=orangey@host-250.ken-64-141-60.norcomcable.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === troth [n=troth@oh-strongsvillecadent1-3c-60.clvhoh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === metallic [n=metallic@pop-ls-5-2-dialup-11.freesurf.ch] has joined #kubuntu [05:01] hello === PJeremy [n=PJeremy@p54A2DCDC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:02] hi metallic :) [05:03] i have a problem, Xfce don't run on my Kubuntu, AMD64 computer. if i choice Xfce the screen becomes black. And it's return to login screen [05:03] it' s never happened to someone? [05:04] hi kkathman :) [05:05] metallic: check the file .xsession-errors [05:05] ok === bigili [n=bigili@p54A942F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:06] hmm no never had that happen, but then I dont have an AMD64 that runs linux :) === bigili [n=bigili@p54A942F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:06] directory...? :) don't laugh please! eheh... [05:06] yout got one that runs windows? [05:07] locate .xessions [05:08] metallic: that file should be in your home directory [05:09] ah ok... [05:09] but you'll need to migrate to there with a cd [05:10] migrate to there whit a cd? [05:10] that file isn't my directory... [05:10] on my directory :) === MenZa` [n=menza@0x50a1605a.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu [05:12] ah yes... Ubuntu + XFCE [05:13] but i like KDE, and gnome [05:13] i want a system with KDE, Gnome and Xfce [05:14] I don't find .xsession-errors on my home directory... [05:14] metallic: its should be there...its a system file, so you'll need to ls -a to see it [05:15] or navligate to /home// and type ls -a [05:16] or when you get there you can type cat .xsession-errors [05:16] if there isnt anything there...thats a good thing. [05:16] I know, I have confused "ls -i" with "ls -a"... ups [05:18] it's very long... [05:18] yah === lextul [n=thomas@p54B7F1E7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:18] all of kde... various errors of kde [05:18] I had to clean mine out hehe === dante [n=dante@pc-14-82-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:19] Hola alguien que me ayude? [05:19] dante: Ingles solomente por favor :) [05:19] my inglish is fuck [05:19] bueno gracias de todas formas [05:19] bye [05:19] :s === dante [n=dante@pc-14-82-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:21] boh... === KeroppiX [i=nobody@247.subnet255.astinet.telkom.net.id] has joined #kubuntu === nebulus_ [n=nebulus@85.25.125.84] has joined #kubuntu [05:23] i found a ".xsession-errors-:1" but it's empty... [05:23] i have found [05:23] sorry, i'm not english! === kjcole [n=kjcole@66.103.220.230] has joined #kubuntu === Zinoc [n=zinoc@nan77-2-82-242-116-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === public [n=public@210.213.226.162] has joined #kubuntu [05:29] on a forum i have read an interessant post, it's responsability of kdm... "login console"!!!! :) [05:29] bye! === dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-244-28.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu === bhna [n=andreas@p54B81455.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === toko123 [n=mike@72.28.62.38] has joined #kubuntu === Pasarela [n=Pasarela@82.158.92.3] has joined #kubuntu === knubbe [n=knubbe@host019a.turbinen20.se] has joined #kubuntu === mrmarcel [n=mrmarcel@p548543C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === dennis_p [n=pronk@213-73-234-202.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #kubuntu === lumpi [n=lumpi@p57859230.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [05:45] hi === beast [n=beast@host-1-145-220-24.midco.net] has joined #kubuntu === levi [i=end@user-0ccemdl.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:47] hey bhna :) [05:47] wassup? [05:48] kkathman: [05:48] what up [05:48] howdy levi :) === levi is now known as endo602 [05:48] ahhh endo602 recognize you now :) [05:48] sorry [05:48] man [05:48] im having trouble [05:48] np [05:48] with some stuff === robin_brb [n=robin@debian.demon.nl] has joined #kubuntu [05:48] but first [05:49] whats wrong [05:49] we had a baby boy this week [05:49] that is not the problem [05:49] the problemn is with playing dvds with vlc [05:49] wow congratulations!!! My best and blessings to you and your family :) [05:49] automounting my smd drives [05:49] and auto mounting my usb [05:49] does xine play mpc? [05:49] endo602: I think there are some bugs there...but workarounds also.. [05:50] dvd? [05:50] that automounting seems to be cropping upi [05:50] ahhh [05:50] the DVD thing shouldnt be tho [05:50] what about the dvd [05:50] i cant get it to play [05:50] libdvdcss2 installed? [05:51] endo602: what version of VLC are you using [05:51] 4.0.2 [05:51] hmm [05:51] really? [05:51] too old? [05:52] no [05:52] No I think thats wrong [05:52] cuz the current vlc I think is 0.8 something and thats beta [05:52] lemme check [05:53] yah 0.8.4 === NeOnRaBbIt [n=msmith09@pcp0012006327pcs.selrsv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:53] under version sasy 4.0.2 [05:53] hey [05:53] but somewhere else it says 0.8.4 [05:53] yah [05:53] did you install it yourself? [05:53] just wondering, whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu? [05:53] endo602: right at the top of where you got 4.0.2 from ;) [05:54] NeOnRaBbIt: Kubuntu = Ubuntu + KDE [05:54] brb [05:54] sorry, im new to linux, how is KDE better or different? [05:55] endo602: do you have libdvdcss2 installed? [05:55] nah === Do-It-Now [n=Do@cable-62-205-120-181.upc.chello.be] has joined #kubuntu [05:56] endo602: don't you need it for dvd playback? [05:58] dont know [05:58] NeOnRaBbIt: it's not better, test the different windowing systems and pick the one you like best [05:58] its not coming up on my adept [05:58] endo602: well, i'm pretty sure you do. [05:58] !sources [05:58] A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic [05:58] NeOnRaBbIt: KDE is another, very nicely configured, easy to tailor GUI for linux [05:58] PJeremy: sorry man it aint here [05:59] NeOnRaBbIt: go to www.kde.org to see examples [05:59] alright ill check that out [06:00] endo602: i built my sources list with the sourceomatic, and its there. [06:00] which would you say runs fastest? [06:00] NeOnRaBbIt: CLI [06:00] :p [06:00] CLI? [06:00] command line interface.. [06:00] oh === adnan [n=adnan@217.66.226.52] has joined #kubuntu === adnan is now known as AbuToni === Flixor [n=Flixor@ip5457002f.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu === _martin [n=martin@p54A91ACB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === _martin is now known as DocTomoe === lumpi [n=lumpi@p57859230.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [06:03] NeOnRaBbIt: THey all run fine, given the necessary resource === max [n=max@d113016.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #kubuntu [06:04] NeOnRaBbIt: For a decent system with enough memory, most people will prefer KDE over, say Gnome === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@m14.net81-65-56.noos.fr] has joined #kubuntu === trj [n=tjones@81.187.255.231] has joined #kubuntu [06:04] kkathman: i wouldnt say that.. [06:04] doo [06:04] In KDE you can run CLI simultaneous with the GUI [06:04] d [06:05] kkathman: have you ever heard of eterm? [06:05] kkathman: most people i know prefer gnome.. [06:05] PJeremy: wouldnt say what? [06:05] Its always personal preference, most people I know prefer KDE..so hehe === claudiu [n=claudiu@195.242.89.106] has joined #kubuntu [06:05] Can someone please enlighten me what that journal stuff in kontact is for? [06:05] hello guys [06:05] DocTomoe: yah eterm is a terminal emulator [06:06] Anyone here who is able to support with a small problem in java programming? [06:06] DocTomoe: for journaling I guess, if you are into that [06:06] i am coming from gentoo and i have trouble using nvidia driver. can someone help ? [06:06] relas: probably you should go to a java channel :) [06:07] relas: more likely to find someone in #java ;) [06:07] hm, problems with KDE ... that korganizer documentation is from 2001 -_- [06:07] PJeremy: still not there === relas [n=GLA@194.231.189.78] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:07] endo602: did you run sudo apt-get update? === claudiu [n=claudiu@195.242.89.106] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:08] PJeremy: I would submit that Gnome is better for many who are on a budget and are "hobbiests" that have older machines with less performant CPUs and memory . I still have a Gnome install here on my Dell p3 450 with 128MB === halibut [n=foo@cpc1-lewi1-4-0-cust133.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:09] yes i did === _claudiu [n=claudiu@195.242.89.106] has joined #kubuntu [06:10] <_claudiu> back again [06:10] kkathman: i'd rather use xfce or fluxbox or blackbox on older machines.. [06:10] <_claudiu> i am an ex-gentoo user and I have big trouble with setting up nvidia driver [06:10] kkathman: what do you mean with "on a budget" ? [06:10] me too, Claudiu :-( [06:11] kkathman: the smb drives are automounted to /mnt/data\ [06:11] data [06:11] but not linked correction to the folders i orginally set that too [06:11] <_claudiu> le_chat: maybe we will get som help here [06:11] PJeremy: agreed, especially on low end machines...less overhead...but I think we'd agree, that since most distros install Gnome as default, that many people never bother to even look or install KDE so... again its just a preference [06:11] i'll try, i'll try ;-) [06:11] endo602: yes thats normal === _arnaud [n=arnaud@d83-177-206-89.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #kubuntu [06:12] PJeremy: On a budget...i.e. they want to use an "old" machine that has basically become a boat anchor to experiment or learn about Linux [06:12] would you guys say ubuntu/kubuntu would be alright running on two pc's with 467 and 223mhz? or should i try a distro thats less beefy? [06:13] <_claudiu> any "ubuntu guru" here or such ? [06:13] _claudiu: you may try #ubuntu as well [06:13] _claudiu: Just ask your question. You'll find out if someone is guru enough. [06:13] kkathman: yea I'd agree with it being preference [06:13] NeOnRaBbIt: ubuntu will be fine...I am running ubuntu on an old HP with only 96 MB memory [06:13] NeOnRaBbIt: depends on what you are satisfied with [06:13] <_claudiu> Juerd: i have trouble setting up nvidia driver [06:14] enough memory and it will work fine [06:14] yea i had xp pro on there before a friend of mine told me to try the switch [06:14] _claudiu: Have you tried Google? [06:14] one has 128 other with 64 [06:14] NeOnRaBbIt: but in general, the older the machine, the more memory you need to run a GUI [06:14] <_claudiu> PJeremy: nvidia driver wont work here [06:14] afk [06:14] <_claudiu> Juerd: i dont get an explicit error message [06:14] see i would like to run command line only with no gui BUT, i know NOTHING of linux and its commands...well i wouldnt say nothing but very little [06:15] PJeremy: WHAT??? Im running nVidia just file :) [06:15] _claudiu: i wouldn't know anything about nvidia ;) i have an ati. i just meant that you may try the ubuntu channel as well since the base system is the same [06:15] I've got too a problem with NVidia Driver [06:15] kkathman: i don't have probs with nvidia ;) _claudiu does. [06:15] I Dled it from 3W.NV.com [06:15] In general ATI is linux unfriendly, but there are exceptions [06:15] <_claudiu> Juerd: xorg dies when starting right after (II) Initializing extension GLX [06:16] !nvidia [06:16] rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368 [06:16] kkathman: heh, it's a good card and i don't play in linux... [06:17] <_claudiu> ubotu: thanks , i tried many howtos, and right now i just removed any RESTRICTTED-MODULES, NVIDIA-GLX and such [06:17] _claudiu: de nada [06:17] right... but alot of people do, and they dont have your skill... [06:17] <_claudiu> ubotu: as a gentoo user, i just don't get it. what it takes to have nvidia working [06:17] I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, _claudiu [06:18] _claudiu: ubotu is a BOT ;) [06:18] <_claudiu> PJeremy: okay. hope you're not [06:18] _claudiu: ubotu is a bot...hehe search those links it suggested :) === Mars [n=mars@80.51.47.209] has joined #kubuntu [06:18] Hi [06:18] _claudiu: well, according to my last girlfriend..eh.. [06:18] HI Mars :) [06:18] I have problem with kx docker === Le_Chat [n=lechat@l06m-213-44-79-16.d4.club-internet.fr] has joined #kubuntu [06:18] I am very problematic person :) [06:18] PJeremy: oh now thats not what I heard from her :) [06:19] fixed the problem :) [06:19] kkathman: you and the rest of the football team ;) [06:19] So when i run kx docker there is a lot of unuseful (for me) icons like / /dev And i cant delete them [06:19] PJeremy: exactly :) hehe ^5s [06:19] <_claudiu> gentoo was a breeze with using nvidia [06:19] now i gotta figure out how to automount the usb when i plug it in [06:19] <_claudiu> gentoo IS a breeze with using nvidia [06:19] <_claudiu> sorry [06:19] I'll check the URLs, ty [06:19] _claudiu: My system ran nvidia right out of the box [06:20] kxdocker is a monster [06:20] <_claudiu> kkathman: i did dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server and the standard xorg.conf i got was useless [06:20] ? [06:20] bhna: how yo mena [06:21] _claudiu: did you go to those links above? === jpowers [n=jpowers@67.111.148.131.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:21] very user unfriendly [06:21] kkathman: do you know if xine play mpc files? [06:21] true [06:21] <_claudiu> kkathman: well one of them is an empty document [06:21] PJeremy: no, I dont even enable sound on my box at all [06:22] endo602: many icons and no documenations. fullscreen windows going over kxdocker ... [06:22] _claudiu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia [06:22] greetiings [06:22] kkathman: i can't live without music [06:22] <_claudiu> the other one seems to be a TEN PAGES HOWTO for setting up nvidia. Sorry, but this is stupid, there must be an automatic way to do this [06:23] lsmod |grep snd shows sequencer but kdeinfo shows not enables? [06:23] PJeremy: I have a multimedia Win system...for creating/composing music and video...so I kinda dont need one in Linux [06:23] kkathman: nice. i only have one pc.. [06:24] PJeremy: I have 6 in my office here [06:24] plus another 2 elsewhere [06:24] snd_seq_device yes kdeinfo sound no? [06:24] PJeremy: unfortunately they are split 3 linux and 3 windows :) [06:25] snd_seq_device yes kdeinfo sound_sequencer no? [06:25] kkathman: nice. i probably will have more than one once i have a job, but for now i'm just a little student :) [06:25] <_claudiu> kkathman: well it seems like this is going to be a pain. nvidia-glx has a 386 kernel as a dependancy [06:25] well my multimedia Winbox is not "unfortunately" its gassed up pretty good for audio/video [06:26] kkathman: ever authored a dvd with menus in linux? === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D3B1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [06:27] <_claudiu> kkathman: and all this legacy stuff forces me to use that 386 kernel. It seems like ubuntu needs much work === olwin is away: Away at the moment [06:28] _claudiu: well, if ubuntu doesnt suit you, try another distro...there are hundreds :) [06:28] PJeremy: yes [06:29] kkathman: cli only or with a gui ? [06:29] PJeremy: but not normally...I have a colleague that does the post production for the most part now using a combo of Avid and some of the software he has [06:29] <_claudiu> kkathman: i like ubuntu for being simpler to install but it fails with simple things like this tens of pages about setting up nvidia [06:29] PJeremy: ohh not in linux at all [06:29] I think it's the non x64 things that need the work, not the OS, you shouldn't have to double up on libs for 32 bit stuff because 1-3 applications on a system are legacy. [06:29] <_claudiu> kkathman: gentoo does it with > emerge nvidia-kernel and thats all [06:30] _claudiu: just curious, but why did you change distros? [06:30] _claudiu: all I can tell you, is that for me...I put the CD in about a year ago, and it recognized my nvidia with no problems whatsoever, and Ive migrated through 2 major upgrades since then with NO problems [06:31] <_claudiu> kkathman: PJeremy , sick of compiling for days for a simple word changed in the sources by the devs [06:31] _claudiu: I never issued ONE command...the install recognized it...that seems better I think no commands :) [06:32] <_claudiu> kkathman: do you have 3d acceleration, maybe you are running with "nv" driver ? === JRV [n=noneofyo@egardia.csn.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #kubuntu [06:32] _claudiu: that'd annoy me as well [06:32] _claudiu: then switch to something else...or /join #ubuntu for the kernal/technical help...this is for kubuntu === NeOnRaBbIt [n=msmith09@pcp0012006327pcs.selrsv01.pa.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] [06:32] <_claudiu> kkathman: thanks, i will try to get help on ubuntu === _juan [n=juan@200-77-214-151.ctetij.cablered.com.mx] has joined #kubuntu [06:33] <_claudiu> kkathman: i was wondering . maybe if i would remove all the nvidia stuff and rm some tmp, will that do it ? [06:33] <_juan> hola [06:33] <_claudiu> kkathman: maybe i should rm manually some files and i dont knw which === public [n=public@210.213.226.162] has joined #kubuntu [06:33] <_juan> alguien habla espaol? === JRV [n=noneofyo@egardia.csn.tu-chemnitz.de] has left #kubuntu [] === bretzel [n=bretzel@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [06:34] Hey! [06:34] How to get a working tutorial on kbfx ???? I dunno nothing about this one and would like to make it run === braineater [n=i_apolog@98.135.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu [06:35] italiano? [06:36] bretzel: http://www.linuxlots.com/~siraj/kde/plugin/home/index.php [06:36] kkathman: oh! thanks alot ! :-) [06:38] np [06:40] kkathman: ??? It says NOTHING on how to make it run and how to install themes for it :-( [06:40] bretzel: maybe trying Google ? === robin_brb is now known as robin_ === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.192] has joined #kubuntu === zyn [n=bhughes@ti221110a080-11144.bb.online.no] has joined #kubuntu === bretzel [n=bretzel@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === Mez is now known as Mez|OnlyTalkToMe === Mars [n=mars@80.51.47.209] has joined #kubuntu [06:49] Someone can help me with kxdocker? === Mez|OnlyTalkToMe is now known as Mez|DND [06:49] kxdocker??? [06:49] E macOs docker [06:50] Mars have you checked out: http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/main.php [06:50] njo [06:50] no [06:51] mean [06:51] yes [06:51] but what you mean? === davedorm [n=Dave@pool-71-100-25-27.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:52] I mean... typically the home page for the app has ALOT of information on how to install/use and configure [06:52] help! [06:52] lol [06:52] no [06:52] Hi davedorm :) [06:52] i have roblem with plugins [06:53] i cant find answer there [06:53] davedorm: whats the problem :) [06:53] kkathman: which distro would you recommend for an old dell laptop with _probably_ a p3 500mhz and _hopefully_ 128mb ram and some graphicscard..it has an external cd drive and external floppydrive, both can't be plugged in at the same time. === Czessi [n=czessi@dslb-084-059-010-029.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === Mars_^ [n=mars@62.233.181.86] has joined #kubuntu === Czessi [n=czessi@dslb-084-059-010-029.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [06:54] Mars http://www.kde-forum.org/archive/11543/thread.html does this help you? [06:54] kkathman: it'll be mainly used as typewriter.. [06:54] PJeremy: are you going to be primarily CLI or do you want gui? [06:55] kkathman: gui [06:55] PJeremy: I have a similar machine here [06:55] I run ubuntu with Gnome [06:55] but [06:55] I have also rung XFCE on it and it works very well also [06:55] run [06:55] ok... I cannot get anywhere in the GUI admin stuff... it prompts me for my sudo password, spins the little hourglass, and goes away [06:55] kkathman: it's not for me, it's for my parents.. right now theres win98se on it with a bunch of programs like office xp which almost kill the machine.. [06:56] Which docker is the best ? [06:56] PJeremy: yah...if you know ubuntu yourself, then XFCE might be better [06:56] davedorm: can you be more specific as to what you are trying to do? [06:57] access drives (where it edits fstab) [06:57] kkathman: i just want it to be somewhat fast and reliable. since my parents don't know much windows or computers switching to linux should be easy :) [06:57] disks and filesystems [06:57] davedorm: running breezy and kubuntu? [06:57] yup [06:57] 5.10 [06:57] +about^^ === Mars^ [n=mars@80.51.47.209] has joined #kubuntu [06:58] davedorm: that should be fixed in the latest updates [06:58] ok, so do an update in Adept? [06:58] PJeremy: theres another GUI out there that looks like Windows...XPDE I think...but I dont know the resources needed [06:58] davedorm: be sure to run Adept Updater [06:58] I'll try that [06:58] thanks [06:58] the admin probs were fixed a few days ago [06:58] kkathman: what the gui looks like is pretty irrelevant..just should have very very low requirements. [06:59] I also get errors that dcopserver is not running [06:59] PJeremy: Try Gnome to begin with.... My Dell is an old 1997 p3 450 with 128 [06:59] and it seems pretty stable and responsive with Gnome [07:00] I dont use it as a production machine per se, its mostly for file storage [07:00] but still when I do get on it...its fine === Sonny_Wertzik [n=Sonny_We@ip24-250-11-28.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === furrybunny [n=jon@h-66-167-177-213.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:00] kkathman: have you used OOo2 on it/printed with it? i don't think my parents will do more than that.. [07:01] does anyone here use the moodin theme engine? [07:01] ok, it's running... we'll see if that fixes it... I am a staunch Mepis user, so I wanted to try Kubuntu [07:01] PJeremy: cant say that I have sorry...it will prolly be slow, just because of the memory I'd reckon [07:01] but should run once loaded === Mars [n=mars@62.233.181.86] has joined #kubuntu [07:01] lemme try that real quick PJeremy ok...gimme a sec [07:01] kkathman: sure, thanks [07:02] and once I installed stuff I was missing, lol, Kubuntu was not that bad [07:03] What's the best docker in your opinion? [07:03] Mars, u mean like a mac os style docker? [07:04] Mars: I'm very happy with kooldock === Mars_^ [n=mars@80.51.47.209] has joined #kubuntu [07:04] PJeremy: I just fired OO 1.1 up (MY Dell is still on hoary)...it took about 40 seconds to bring it up, but after that..it was fine [07:04] 40 secs [07:05] blah [07:05] jpowers: p3 450 128 MB [07:05] hehe not my production machine :) === Kinomees [n=kinomees@85.196.202.25] has joined #kubuntu [07:05] whew [07:05] its a file server only [07:05] Sonny_Wertzik, Yes MacOs one [07:05] but PJeremy wanted some benchmarks [07:05] Mars: I'm very happy with kooldock [07:06] Mars, well ksmoothdock is written well and easy to configure , but i like kxdocker === Mars^ [n=mars@62.233.181.86] has joined #kubuntu [07:07] Mars, kxdocker is a pain to configure and the instruction are written by an italian guy in broken english [07:07] kkathman: hui, i guess OOo2 wouldnt be faster :/ [07:08] Mars, but when u understand whats going on i think its got the most potential [07:08] Sonny_Wertzik, yes i gave up it :) [07:08] PJeremy: probably not...but if your folks were to bite the bullet and get just another 256 mb (very cheap upgrade) then it would be better I imagine [07:08] but i dont know what use now [07:08] which docker cause i dont want kxdocker :) [07:08] Mars^: anything particularly wrong with the native kicker in KDE? [07:09] Mars^, try ksmoothdock ..the second to newest version its flawless [07:09] Mars^: have you tried putting a graphical image there, or use the transparency mode? [07:09] kkathman: unlikely, they just took it because my dad got it for free, they're not computer people.. [07:09] kkathman, i was trying to do a lot of things yesterday :) [07:09] PJeremy: but you could easily put the memory in the machine...but I understand [07:10] Mars^: best to stick with one thing at a time, get that stable and working :) === tenco [n=martin@p549A5903.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:10] i will try ksmoothdoc [07:10] kkathman: sure i could, but not with my money ;) [07:11] Mars^, ya kxdocker is a pain until u find someone that understand what the hell the guy who wrote it is doing [07:11] PJeremy: oh...hehe your folks should be able to get the memory upgrade for probably less than $30-40 === mrmarcel [n=mrmarcel@p548543C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === billytwowilly [n=chris@S01060040f4acc23c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:12] Mars^, i could not compile the newest version of ksmoothdock but the second to newest version is good === _simon_ [n=simon@host-84-9-145-215.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:12] i will try [07:13] kkathman: that's twice as much as my dad would have paid for the laptop hehe [07:13] +what [07:13] Mars^, i think it version 3.5.1. [07:13] Sonny_Wertzik, yes i cant compile it too === _simon_ is now known as SSJ [07:14] Mars^, heh...the new one just has some new tweaks i think not any fixes [07:14] Mars^, so 3.5.1. should be good to go 4 u === Mars___ [n=mars@80.51.47.209] has joined #kubuntu === bruger [n=bruger@0x50c48544.adsl-fixed.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu [07:16] Sonny_Wertzik, so which one schould i compile? [07:17] Mars^, dont compile just go to KDE look web site and D/L version 3.5..1. [07:17] Hi, anybody that can help me with my mouse in kde? [07:18] although, the HAL fix, now let me normally use usbsticks, it still opens two windows when I connect my iPod [07:18] and I can't umount it, because it isn't in fstab. === Mars_^ [n=mars@62.233.181.86] has joined #kubuntu [07:20] Hi, I'm having a problem with my mouse in KDE, it moves in a delayed kindof way and I can't get it working like a regular mouse [07:20] it's just a regular usb mouse and works fine other places. Anybody has a clue what I could do to ficx it? === Mars^ [n=mars@80.51.47.209] has joined #kubuntu [07:22] anybody have any idea what it could be? I'm using kubuntu breezy but I'm suspecting its something in the X configuration === Mars_^ [n=mars@62.233.181.86] has joined #kubuntu [07:24] Mars^, its one of these on this page http://intranet.harlaut.net/debian/ksmoothdock/ depending on which kubuntu u use i386...amd64...whatever === erwin [n=felix@dslb-084-059-105-132.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === rdfm [n=rdfm@host25-217.pool871.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === erwin is now known as erwin_ [07:25] bruger, have u tried system settings > mouse === Lord_Dex [i=Lord_Dex@ppp-222-176.31-151.libero.it] has joined #kubuntu === shogouki [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-67-70.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [07:26] bruger, sound like what u would call mouse acceleration setting if it were windows === Mars_^ [n=mars@62.233.181.86] has joined #kubuntu [07:29] bruger, under the advanced tab in mouse settings there are 5 or 6 setting to play with [07:29] ehh [07:29] Mars_^, stop logging in and out hehehehehehe [07:29] I ve got problem with deb of smoothdocker === shogouki [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-67-70.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu [] [07:29] its not my false [07:30] Mars^, its one of these on this page http://intranet.harlaut.net/debian/ksmoothdock/ depending on which kubuntu u use i386...amd64...whatever [07:31] yes [07:31] i was trying to install from deb === kig [n=kig@hoas-fe35dd00-168.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu [07:31] Mars_^, ok what happened [07:33] some problems with libriares [07:33] kdedev4 === humbolt [n=hugo@201.138.98.2] has joined #kubuntu [07:34] Mars_^, and ?? [07:34] i couldnt install it [07:34] but [07:34] now i installed it from source [07:35] and it doesent run :] [07:35] : [07:35] mars sounds like you might not have installed the development files for KDE [07:35] ehh [07:35] i think i have :) [07:36] make sure u have kde-devel installed in adept === _rick [n=rick@knight-fw.rlknight.com] has joined #kubuntu === Mars [n=mars@62.233.181.86] has joined #kubuntu === Elsan [n=geno@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3571110.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [07:39] it says that i dont have : === |mp| [n=mp@82.153.240.220] has joined #kubuntu [07:39] kde-devel [07:39] no [07:39] libqt3c102-mt [07:39] mars u mean its not listed? [07:39] dpkg: problemy z zalenociami uniemoliwiaj skonfigurowanie ksmoothdock: [07:39] ksmoothdock zaley od kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.2.2); jednake: [07:39] Pakiet kdelibs4 nie jest zainstalowany. [07:39] ksmoothdock zaley od libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.2.3); jednake: [07:39] Pakiet libqt3c102-mt nie jest zainstalowany. [07:39] dpkg: bd przetwarzania ksmoothdock (--install): [07:39] o [07:39] in polish [07:40] but it says i dont have mentioned [07:40] Mars, are all your repositories enabled? [07:41] kkathman: you use opera, right? === seri [n=seri@c185151.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #kubuntu [07:42] w00t [07:43] that worked [07:43] still does not see my thumb drive [07:43] lol [07:43] but I'll manage === Knowerrors [n=stormsur@Node178-1-42-66.1dial.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:43] Mars: if you've got some time, i'm building a .deb from source atm... it will hopefully work better === _flo [n=flo@i577B1E52.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === Mars^ [n=mars@80.51.47.209] has joined #kubuntu [07:46] How do I enable mp3 support on kubuntu? I have w32codecs installed as well as gstreamer0.8-musepack and gstreamer0.8-misc [07:46] sonny_wertzik thx, I'll take a look at it [07:46] Knowerrors:gstreamer-mad [07:46] bruger, no prob yw [07:47] Knowerrors: you can use xine engine also for amarok [07:48] Knowerrors, you need to iInstall the akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad packages from the universe repository and killall artsd to restart the sound server === Mars [n=mars@62.233.181.86] has joined #kubuntu === lumpi [n=lumpi@p57859230.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [07:49] Knowerrors, are you trying to use amaok? [07:49] Knowerrors, Amarok [07:49] yeah, or kaffience, either one [07:49] kaffiene === ro0be3rt [n=robert@sniper.wh25.tu-dresden.de] has joined #kubuntu [07:50] hehe, bad spelling people in the morning === ro0be3rt [n=robert@sniper.wh25.tu-dresden.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [07:50] Knowerrors, ya..................you need to iInstall the akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad packages from the universe repository and killall artsd to restart the sound server === nebulus_ [n=nebulus@85.25.125.84] has left #kubuntu ["Verlassend"] [07:50] Knowerrors, or just reboot [07:51] ok, thx Sonny_Wertzik , doing that now, got 28.8 dialup so will be a time === Mars_^ [n=mars@80.51.47.209] has joined #kubuntu [07:51] Knowerrors, heh...ok [07:51] sonny_wertzik It's nok like its mouse acceleration, the mouse is actually about second delayed, not like a mouse should be. It worked fine when I used debian, but after I switched it stopped working correctly [07:52] sonny_wertzik nok=not [07:52] manveru, ? [07:53] bruger, im just guessing here but look at the advanced tab....maybe drag start time? [07:53] bruger, ior pionter threshhold? === Mars^ [n=mars@62.233.181.86] has joined #kubuntu === becker [n=becker@xdsl-87-78-63-119.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu [07:55] bruger, back in 3 minutes ..i have to do something [07:55] sonny_wertzik, I suppose it helped with the drag start time, but it's not anywhere near acceptable still. I thinks its something else [07:55] ok === becker is now known as Arch0n [07:55] sonny_wertzik ok === borisyeltsin [n=chris@S0106001195772bf7.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === _JakubS [n=qba@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === Mars [n=mars@80.51.47.209] has joined #kubuntu [08:00] Sonny_wertzik, I think its the X settings because the mouse begins acting strange as soon as I start any X including just kdm === Mars [n=mars@80.51.47.209] has joined #kubuntu [08:01] bruger, sorry man..i dont know anything else [08:01] Sonny_Wertzik: did the steps, kaffiene and amarok still won't play, is there anything else I gotta do? [08:01] sonny_wertzik, allright, thx anyway :-) [08:01] bruger, np === bruger [n=bruger@0x50c48544.adsl-fixed.tele.dk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [08:02] Knowerrors, ya ummm 1 sec === Mars_^ [n=mars@62.233.181.86] has joined #kubuntu [08:05] Knowerrors, open the main menu > system settings> sound and mutimedia> hardware tab> select audio device...............change it to open sound system or anything other than atuo === troth [n=troth@oh-strongsvillecadent1-3c-60.clvhoh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === Alfabit [n=Alfabit@201.248.101.165] has joined #kubuntu === Alfabit [n=Alfabit@201.248.101.165] has left #kubuntu ["Abandonando"] [08:05] where can i find debs for kubuntu that is not in repos ? [08:06] i just downloaded a new .iso live cd. can someone direct me to a tutorial, or help, with how to burn as an image [08:07] Knowerrors, there is also 1 more thing u can try if that doesnt work let me know [08:08] nevermind i think i found it with K3b === Niomi [n=Niomi@cpe-65-185-39-209.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === Noaires [n=stormsur@Node230-1-42-66.1dial.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:11] ya i figured it out with K3b [08:11] Sonny_Wertzik: didn't work... is there anything I need to change in the gstreamer engine settings? [08:12] Noaires, is that u knowerrors? did u reboot after you installed akode-mpeg and gstreamer-mad? === Madeye [n=Jad@86.108.20.233] has joined #Kubuntu === josh__ [n=josh@dslb-084-058-186-124.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:13] guys, I have java installed, jad@madi:~$ java -version [08:13] java version "1.4.2" [08:13] gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9) [08:13] Yeah, thats knowerrors, I need to register that name cause modem boots me [08:13] but it's not working in konquerer [08:13] Noaires, ya there is something else [08:13] how can I fix that [08:13] no, didn't reboot, just killall artsd [08:14] Noaires, id reboot [08:14] Noaires, but try this also aftarward [08:15] anyone? === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.94.33] has joined #kubuntu === musashiden [n=musashid@pool-162-84-48-57.sal.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:15] hello. i just installed a HardDrive in my computer, now all i need to do is mount it. [08:16] Noaires, open amarok click settings> configure amarok>go to engine and pick gstreamer pick oss output plugin too [08:16] can anyone tell me how to real quick? === puckman [n=gerard@dynamic-62-56-9-176.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [08:18] Sonny_Wertzik: how do I view Amarok error log, cause it gives me a gstreamer error that disappears real quick [08:18] ui [08:18] Noaires: shouldnt you ask amarok related questions in #amarok [08:18] ? [08:18] its not just amarok related musashiden [08:18] oh, gotcha [08:19] Noaires, dont know....but reboot your machine before you do anything else....killall artsd...man if you arent using artsd it aint gonna mean much [08:19] its playing mp3s through gstreamer on any program === Arch0n is now known as Allah [08:19] ALAAAAAAAAAAAAH [08:19] okeeedokey, will do, thx Sonny_Wertzik [08:19] anyways, can anyone tell me how to mount a new hard drive? === Noaires [n=stormsur@Node230-1-42-66.1dial.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [08:21] hmph, guess nobody knows how [08:22] musashiden, 1 sec i have a web page i think === _op [n=op@c-69-180-43-207.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:24] <_op> I setup samba but i am trying to set it up so that it does not need a login becuase i am connecting to it with somthing that cannot input that. How do i do that? [08:25] whats the line for emualting button3 in xorg? [08:25] musashiden, what filesystem is the partition? === JakubS [n=qba@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === freemanen [n=freemane@c83-248-214-164.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu [08:26] Sonny_Wertzik: erm, i think it the one windows use. htfs or something [08:26] cant remember the exact name [08:26] but its the one windows XP uses [08:27] what was the emulate thing to type for getting the two mouse button to act as mouse3 === bosstones [n=dennis@port-195-158-164-245.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:28] musashiden, ya NTFS.....http://www.majalah.com/#automountfat .....scroll up or down to find the NTFS entry [08:29] musashiden, its in there somewhere [08:29] ok, thank you === bosstones [n=bosstone@port-195-158-164-245.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:29] musashiden, yw [08:34] does anyone here use the moodin theme engine? === nikitis [n=nikitis@67.137.207.66] has joined #Kubuntu [08:35] Are there any guides for installing Dual ATI Video cards in Kubuntu? === lumpi [n=lumpi@p57859230.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === Batman [n=Batman@gw1-nat-16-04.roburnet.sk] has joined #kubuntu [08:40] hmmm, how about how to format the hard drive? anyone knows how to do that? === furrybunny [n=jon@h-66-167-177-213.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ppp-37-102.grapevine.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [08:41] musashiden, did u mount it? [08:41] yes === tackywater [n=jonstorr@S01060011954c8514.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:42] musashiden, and u can see it and read the contents of the partition? === Octane [n=octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:45] yup === meldroc [n=meldroc@c-67-174-124-18.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:45] musashiden, ok cool....you want to overwrite the windows partition ? [08:46] just upgraded to breezy, now kaffeine won't find w32codecs when everything else, including xine and mplayer, can. [08:46] errr. all i want is to completely erase the harddrive. format it if you will === tackywater [n=jonstorr@S01060011954c8514.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:48] musashiden, well i need to know what you want to format it for...like what filesystem..if you want to make it a windows partion or a linux partition [08:48] linux partition === olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-153-71-212.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu === olwin is back. [08:49] musashiden, well put in the linux cd and boot from it...find the partition u want to change and edit only that partition manually [08:50] musashiden, it will destroy all data on that partition [08:50] So.... Are there any guides for installing two ATI Cards? [08:50] isnt there a way to do it from here? [08:51] musashiden, what kubuntu are u using ...hoary..or breezy? [08:52] erm...not sure [08:52] i think it was hoary [08:52] yah, it is hoary === _manveru [n=manveru@dsl-wien1-35-117.utaonline.at] has joined #kubuntu [08:53] musashiden, im not sure about diong what u want in hoary....u might try the repository and see if there is a partition manager program for hoary [08:54] Anyone know where I can find info on installing Two ATI Cards? [08:54] nah, ok, ill just do it from the cd [08:54] thanks for the help nevertheless [08:54] musashiden, sure [08:54] musashiden, good luck [08:54] Sonny_Wertzik: thank you [08:55] Sonny_Wertzik, Would you happen to know where I can find a guide to install two ATI Cards? === endo602 [n=levi@user-0ccemdl.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:59] nikitis, ummm what version of kubuntu...breezy? [08:59] the latest [08:59] breezy i think [08:59] nikitis, hmmm maybe.... 1 sec === izut [n=igor@cm-net-poa-C8B0283F.dynamic.brdterra.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [09:00] <_op> how do i configure samba to not require user name and login to connect to it's shares === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.192] has joined #kubuntu [09:00] _op, I don't think you can [09:01] you can make it so it's not passworded [09:01] or write a script === Mez is now known as Mez|DND [09:02] <_op> okay how do i make it so it is not passworded [09:02] <_op> reason is becuase i am connecting from my xbox to the share so i can't input a password [09:03] in linux [09:03] create a user [09:03] without a password [09:03] nikitis, i know there is documentation...try searchng about it under hoary instead of breezy === dragonfly [n=bjvca@9-179.246.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #kubuntu [09:03] then when creating the share [09:03] use that user to create it [09:03] so that he'll have the permissions [09:03] nikitis, i cant find it in my bookmarks [09:04] Sonny_Wertzik, really? [09:04] i'm not looking for dual head setup [09:04] cause I have two actual video cards === thoreauputic [n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic] has joined #kubuntu [09:04] nikitis, im lookin right now for u [09:05] thanks === angelusco [n=angelusc@200.94.227.91] has joined #kubuntu [09:10] nikitis, it may be here http://216.109.125.130/search/cache?p=install+two+video+cards+hoary&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&fl=0&u=ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D53050&w=install+two+video+cards+hoary&d=Pxp6L2FULuzI&icp=1&.intl=us .....but i cant get on the site...it seem to be overloaded or down [09:10] how do i install a .sh file? [09:10] hola [09:10] sorry hi, is this room just in english ? [09:11] helloooo [09:12] angelusco, ask in whatever language u want and maybe someone will answer...but mostly english hehe [09:12] how do i install a .sh file [09:13] ok ty sonny, is here some kind or rules? 'cuz i know some rooms that ban u if u speak another languaje [09:13] angelusco, i dont know... [09:14] endo602: chmod +x [09:14] perhaps i don't speak english, but i will try to spell it as better as i can [09:14] endo602: then ./ to run it [09:14] angelusco, u seem to be doing fine with english as far as i can see hehehehe === at1as [n=at1as@24-247-15-243.static.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:15] thanks [09:15] Anyone use Transcode? [09:16] ok ty, mmmm well, i am a noob in this room, on irc and even on kubuntu [09:16] i can't play videos with kaffeine [09:16] angelusco, thats ok, so am i [09:17] Kaffeine is broke for me too. [09:17] xine and mplayer seem fine though === musashiden [n=musashid@pool-162-84-48-57.sal.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:18] angelusco, ya i never use it.... i know what u mean... i dont know how to fix it [09:18] hmm, this is messed up :S [09:18] xine? where can i find it === dan [n=dan@CPE-72-131-125-234.mn.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:18] well actually i am looking for codecs or something like that for kaffeine [09:19] Sonny_Wertzik: now i cant access the hard drive i just installed and the other hard drive i tried to format still has some kubuntu base files in there [09:19] sonny, what do u use?, i can give anything for drop windogs away =) [09:19] angelusco, are all your repositories enabled? === lumpi [n=lumpi@p57859230.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [09:19] i guess them are, how can i check that ? [09:20] angelusco, for playing videos i use xine [09:20] are u using the breezy version of kubuntu? [09:20] xineui. [09:20] Don't know if it's in universe or otherwise. [09:21] xine-ui -- vital hyphen ;-) [09:21] sonny, who are u talking to? the breezy version is for me? [09:22] i guess your busy now [09:22] mmmm let me c [09:22] musashiden, did u make the formatted drive bootable? [09:22] angelusco, use adept package manager look for xineui [09:23] Sonny_Wertzik: it's xine-ui [09:23] Sonny_Wertzik: erm, i really dont know [09:23] apokryphos, yes ok right [09:23] sonny, mm let me check i was looking for xmplayer but didn't find it [09:23] sonny, hold on [09:24] musashiden, heh i dont really know what u did [09:24] hmm, ok [09:24] damnit. i messed up both of my hardrives now === max [n=max@e176044052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:25] musashiden, well u are talking to me so something is working right [09:26] lol [09:26] i have 3 hard drives [09:26] and i messed up 2 of them === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #kubuntu [09:26] musashiden, did u pick the right drive when u formatted it? [09:26] yes [09:27] it did formatted it. but it installed the base system on it <_< [09:27] musashiden, well try again .... no big deal [09:28] Hi, may i ask a short question? [09:28] no! [09:28] ok sry [09:28] back, mmmm i have a big trouble [09:28] max: kiddin' [09:28] musashiden, u wanted to format it ...that would clear it anyways...u just put the base system on by accident [09:29] max: just ask; don't ask to ask :) [09:29] :-) [09:29] i can't loggin with my password as root [09:29] i can't load the ubuntuforum.org site, is down? i tried windows and kubuntu with different browsers. [09:29] everything else works properly [09:29] max: it's ubuntuforums[] [09:29] angelusco, that is a default of KDE i belive [09:29] ... one moment [09:29] max: *ubuntuforum[s] [09:29] and the other one was working just fine before i rebooted the computer. now it says "could not enter folder /media/hdd1" [09:29] but yup, it seems to be down [09:30] yes, i tried forumS ... puh, for a moment [09:30] thx [09:31] LOL my bad, i had the package manager open, so the second time i opened it, was on read only [09:31] sonny, hahaha sorry, now u can c how a noob i am =) [09:31] and Sonny_Wertzik: i cant format the hard driver without kubuntu installing the base system. because as soon as it formats it, it starts to install the base system [09:31] so i cant help it [09:32] musashiden, and u are using the hoary version? [09:32] yes === kalenedrael [n=kalene@c-24-34-72-14.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:33] Anyone else use transcode at all? === at1as is back. [09:33] [09:33] musashiden, does it try to boot from that new partition? [09:33] nope [09:34] ahh, forums are back [09:34] musashiden, well that good at least ...maybe try to delete the files off it manually [09:35] #focr [09:35] tried it, access denied. [09:35] even with root [09:35] oops [09:35] how do i join another channel ? [09:35] musashiden, 1 sec ill look it up === pipe [n=pipe@194-164-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu [09:36] hola!! [09:36] kubunto IRC en espaol ????? [09:36] porfavor ! [09:37] hey, i have libxine-dev, libcinelc2 and libxinerama 1 installed [09:37] hola pipe [09:37] hola.. sabes como es el IRC de kubuntu es espaol? [09:37] soy nuevo en linux y mas en kubuntu, pero igual te puedo ayudar traduciendo tus dudas para ver si alhuien te contesta [09:37] a ok [09:37] musashiden, u there? [09:37] pipe: #kubuntu-es [09:37] como es? te refieres al canal ? [09:37] lo q necesito son repositorios [09:37] Sonny_Wertzik: yup [09:38] please join #ubuntu-es or #kubuntu-es please [09:38] sip [09:38] pipe says: he need repositories [09:38] gracias por la traduccion! [09:38] musashiden, ok i found u a partition editor for hoary [09:38] ok [09:38] no hay problema [09:38] which one is it? [09:38] a ok [09:38] me los podrias mandar! [09:39] musashiden, http://www.majalah.com/#gparted read it ...it tells you how to install it.... dont panic....hehehe [09:39] hey all, do u care if a traslate what pipe wants? [09:39] dejame ver como se configuran o se agregan los repositorios [09:39] hey all, do u care if a traslate what pipe wants? [09:39] musashiden, its for gnome but it might work for KDE [09:39] iam not a noob at linux, iam just having a little trouble with the hard drive stuff [09:40] angelusco: we heard you the first time, and tell him to join #kubuntu-es [09:40] musashiden, i already joined there but nobody answer [09:40] aangelusco.. q dicen? [09:40] pipe: English *only* in here [09:41] no entiendo mucho el ingles! [09:41] ok let's move to kubuntu-es [09:41] a ok [09:41] =) [09:41] ya vengo en #kubuntu-es [09:41] que ya me leyeron la linea anterior, que te pases a kubutu-es pero les digo que no contestand [09:41] gracias!! [09:41] xao [09:41] gracias amigo.. me voy a kubuntu-es [09:41] chao.. denuevo gracias! [09:42] ok [09:42] suerte [09:42] sonny, i have libxine-dev, libcinelc2 and libxinerama 1 installed [09:42] angelusco: what are you trying to do? [09:42] ya [09:43] to watch videos, movies, etc [09:43] i just can ear mp3 =) [09:44] listen* [09:44] angelusco, DVD's? [09:44] angelusco: are you on i386? === didier [n=didier@84.4.7.14] has joined #kubuntu [09:44] well, that could be great, but for star i want to c videos === __Ace__ [n=love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu [09:44] apokryphos, yap [09:44] !w32codecs [09:44] extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy). [09:45] angelusco: get that, and also install xine-ui [09:45] xine4ever [09:45] :> [09:45] . /usr/lib/win32 put ya c00ki3s there [09:45] Allah: nah.. that link comes with the .deb that'll do everything for you 8) [09:46] oh [09:46] okay [09:46] thats pretty l33t [09:46] im currently developing kdeapplets [09:46] my current project ist "Kputt" === zyn [n=bhughes@ti221110a080-11144.bb.online.no] has joined #kubuntu [09:46] omg, let me c, even i don't know how to install some programs from internet === Chris_Haston [n=Chris_Ha@c-69-180-43-207.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:46] hehehehe [09:46] Allah: oh ok; what does it do? [09:47] apokryphos: it makes kde kaputt [09:49] Sonny_Wertzik: wow, this program really works. thank you very much [09:49] musashiden, good! im glad to here that [09:50] ok, so that fixes one hard drive [09:50] musashiden, now u can fix your stuff [09:50] now this other one is giving me a headache [09:50] i have setup samba to and i created a user with no password and created a share. But when i try to connect to the share in windows it is asking for a password and it will not let me connect to it. Anyone know how i can make it not ask for a password? [09:50] musashiden, well at least you got one thing down [09:51] the other one was working just fine before i rebooted the computer. now it says "could not enter folder /media/hdd1" === claudiu [n=claudiu@195.242.89.106] has joined #kubuntu [09:51] musashiden, maybe its a permissions problem [09:52] well i tried to change the permission, even from the terminal windows with root [09:52] but it wont work [09:52] you think maybe itll get fixed if i reboot the computer? [09:52] musashiden, if you login as root maybe you can right click that drive go to preferences and chage the permission....be carful in root...u can really do some damage inthere [09:53] i tried root === txakoli [n=javier69@174.Red-81-34-181.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:53] deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted <----- it means that i am on breezy ??? [09:53] musashiden, not in terminal.... login as root [09:53] i can access the hard drive just fine with root [09:53] hmm [09:54] yes angelusco [09:54] it says "root logins not allowed" [09:54] ok ty [09:54] musashiden, be ever so carful in root... you can mess up your stuff if you do the wrong thing in there..! [09:55] hola [09:55] hello [09:55] sonny, dont worry. i know how to mess with root. i been messing with linux for 8 months now [09:55] musashiden, u are using kde right? [09:55] yah [09:56] im not sure but in breezy ...the version i use... root is disabled by default [09:56] i am donwloading w32codecs [09:56] let me c if i can install it =) [09:56] then how can i enable it? === leppards1 [n=leppards@48.3.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:56] musashiden, im not sure about hoary so i dont want to steer u wrong [09:57] why do you want to login as root? [09:57] There shouldn't ever be a need to [09:57] to access the harddrive and get my stuff out of there [09:57] help! I can't install amule in kubuntu [09:57] because no matter what i do, it wont let me in [09:58] musashiden: if you don't like the terminal, then alt+f2 -> kdesu konqueror [09:58] though ideally you want to alter the mount permissions or something for that harddrive [09:58] is it in fstab? [09:58] yes [09:59] musashiden: can you paste the respective entry? [09:59] musashiden, good luck man i got to go... [09:59] /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd1 ntfs defaults 0 2 [09:59] Sonny_Wertzik: thank you. and see ya later [09:59] musashiden: you haven't set a umask option [09:59] musashiden, np take care [09:59] Sonny_Wertzik: thanks for all the help [10:00] apokryphos: how do i do that? [10:00] musashiden, yw === faked [n=faked@83-65-235-242.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [10:00] musashiden: /dev/hda1 /media/hdd1 ntfs umask=0222 0 0 [10:00] i have setup samba to and i created a user with no password and created a share. But when i try to connect to the share in windows it is asking for a password and it will not let me connect to it. Anyone know how i can make it not ask for a password? [10:00] musashiden: put that entry in === Drakeson [n=Drakeson@69.158.164.130] has joined #kubuntu [10:00] /dev/hda1 ? [10:00] anyone from canada? [10:00] apokryphos: howdy :) [10:00] musashiden: hdd1, sorry [10:00] kkathman: hey [10:01] apokryphos: got a question...you said that the libqt3c102-mt is obsoleted in Breezy? [10:01] apokryphos: do i overwrite the other one? [10:01] it is [10:01] musashiden: yes [10:01] apokryphos: OK...but what do you do if you have an app that has that as a dependency? === trj [n=tjones@81.187.255.231] has left #kubuntu [] [10:02] kkathman: what application does? [10:02] apokryphos: krusader 1.7 newest version [10:02] apokryphos: ok, done === nimatar [n=nimatar@213-140-6-100.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #kubuntu [10:02] now what? [10:02] kkathman: you could just extract the deb and alter the depends [10:02] musashiden: sudo mount -a [10:02] (to remount all relevant things) [10:03] apokryphos: after you are finished with musashiden - maybe we can talk about that in --offtopic [10:03] kkathman: link to the .deb? [10:03] im in no rush [10:03] 1 sec [10:04] kkathman: and it wouldn't be offtopic :P [10:04] yay! it works! [10:04] =) [10:04] thank you very much apokryphos [10:04] np [10:05] apokryphos: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/krusader/krusader_1.60.1-sarge1_i386.deb?download [10:05] ok, thanks [10:05] not a prob...thank YOU [10:06] apokryphos: ok.. ok...I didnt wanna horn in on your helping someone else while in the process [10:06] kkathman: helping just one person at a time would be a boring process anyway :P [10:06] lo [10:06] lol [10:07] has anyone gotten itunes working under wine? === joe_alf [n=joe_alf@pcd646163.netvigator.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:08] um, here is a noob question. whats the delete command for the terminal? like if i wanted to delete a whole folder? [10:09] musashiden: rm -rf [10:09] thank you kkathman [10:09] be careful :) === ocZio^ [i=0@ip-233.net-82-216-68.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #kubuntu === ocZio^ [i=0@ip-233.net-82-216-68.rev.numericable.fr] has left #kubuntu [] [10:10] lol, ill try [10:10] i have been trying to get itunes working under wine and it will not finish the installation [10:12] hmm, one last problem. when i try to change the permissions of hdd1, it gives me this: "chmod: changing permissions of `/media/hdd1': Read-only file system" [10:12] musashiden: you probably need to use sudo in front of that command === rhalff_ [n=rhalff@h132002.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu [10:13] hi if I just install kde in unbuntu, will that give me the same as kubuntu ? [10:13] kkathman: i have, iam logged in to the terminal as root [10:14] rhalff_: not really [10:14] rhalff_: did you install ubuntu? [10:14] kkathman, yes, running ubuntu now [10:14] "Read-only file system"...hmmm...doesnt that sound suspicious? [10:14] rhalff_: all you need to do then, is do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, then go get some coffee and lunch [10:15] or unusual? like if it was made to be read only? === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:15] musashiden: unusual that it would be read-only yes [10:15] kkathman, ah ok nice :) [10:15] well anyways, can you help me out? [10:16] does anyone here use the playlist2html script in amarok? [10:16] musashiden: what were you trying to do? [10:17] kkathman: vaguely inconvenient that I don't remember how to alter the control file from the .deb itself, and then put it back together. I'll have to find out [10:17] iam trying to change the permission of the hard drive. because it seems the whole hard drive is read only [10:17] apokryphos: no problems [10:17] but it wont let me. even when logged in as root [10:18] musashiden: hmm someone else had this problem recently [10:18] musashiden: and I forget what the solution was [10:18] @_@ [10:18] thoreauputic: know how to repackage a .deb with an altered control file? [10:19] musashiden: Im thinking its an option in your fstab...but not 100% sure === eggi_ws2_ [n=einstein@dslb-082-083-080-025.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:19] wait one sec... === propagandhi [n=propagan@CPE-144-131-132-107.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [10:22] musashiden: did you install clean or upgrade from a previous version? [10:22] nope === fabien [n=fabien@APoitiers-152-1-4-191.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === pipitas [n=kurt@p15159004.pureserver.info] has joined #kubuntu === aaronjs_kexi [n=kexi@24-247-4-118.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === ibaro [n=ibaro@cvl92-1-82-225-159-169.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === isaac [n=isaac@debian/developer/isaac] has joined #kubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@66.103.220.192] has joined #kubuntu [10:24] pipitas: what for? [10:24] musashiden: ummm ok how did you install? [10:25] those are the only two ways I know :) === fabien [n=fabien@APoitiers-152-1-4-191.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [10:26] lol, never mind kkathman, i got it fixed. nevertheless, thanks for the help [10:26] excellent musashiden can you tell us what you did? === Sonny_Wertzik [n=Sonny_We@ip24-250-11-28.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:27] musashiden, did u get it straightened out? [10:27] i was changing the permissions of the wrong harddrive. i was trying to fix hdd1, while the real problem was hdb1 [10:27] iam such a noob xP [10:27] musashiden, did u get it straightened out? [10:27] Sonny_Wertzik: yup [10:28] musashiden, kool man [10:28] yup [10:28] musashiden, were u messin with tr wrong drive? [10:29] musashiden, were u messin with the wrong drive? [10:30] Sonny_Wertzik: yah, but no worries, i got it fixed [10:30] with a little help from kkathman of course [10:30] musashiden, ahh ya there are alike names for things and stuff..it gets confusing [10:31] lol [10:33] kkathman: http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/krusader.deb -- lmk if it works; I have no i386 chroot here, so can't test === propagandhi [n=propagan@CPE-144-131-132-107.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has left #kubuntu [] [10:35] kkathman: erm... there's an ubuntu deb on their site [10:36] anybody here use the moodin theme engine for splash screens? [10:36] yup [10:36] yes Sonny_Wertzik I used to use it === _olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-156-95-224.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu === dlausevic|breezy [n=daniel@adsl-69-111-103-212.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:37] raphink, all i get is a small blue box when i test it any ideas? === dlausevic|breezy [n=daniel@adsl-69-111-103-212.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net] has left #kubuntu [] [10:37] hmm [10:37] you installed it well? [10:37] ya it installed no prob [10:38] kkathman: also realised that you didn't originally link me to the 1.7 deb :P [10:38] raphink, the moodin site is down so i can get no help [10:38] apokryphos: really??? I didnt see that? [10:38] apokryphos: sorry I was at the corner shop :) And no, not offhand [10:39] does anyone here know how to mount a samba share? [10:39] in the fstab [10:39] apokryphos: the 1.7 I think was the newest...beta [10:39] thoreauputic: no worries; figured it out [10:39] kkathman: and you linked me to 1.6 =) [10:39] all the tutorials are for shares with passwords [10:39] kkathman: nevermind; the deb on their site for ubuntu should work [10:39] I need to know how to log in as a guest or something [10:39] and I don't know what that option is === Octane_ [n=octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:40] raphink, is there a GUI for moodin or do i just edit the .rc file? [10:40] damn, nobody knows? [10:40] Sonny_Wertzik: were did you get moodin? [10:40] apokryphos: is that the source or a deb? [10:40] Sonny_Wertzik: the link is down [10:40] I didn't have to set anything for moodin Sonny_Wertzik [10:40] just installed it and it worked [10:41] kkathman: where? [10:41] and then used kcontrol to set the splash [10:41] that's it [10:41] raphink, ahhh ok [10:41] apokryphos: that ubuntu dev...thats a full.. not source? [10:41] kkathman: it would be nicer if they gave the deb src too, but they don't :P [10:41] fatejudger, ya i know the site is down hehe umm i think i dl'ed it a few days before it went down [10:42] kkathman: http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/krusader/krusader_1.70.0-beta2-0ubuntu0_i386.deb [10:42] nm I see it now [10:42] Sonny_Wertzik: do you have the deb or source? [10:42] fatejudger, both [10:42] sorry about all that apokryphos [10:42] I just didnt scan further down the page === dennis_p [n=pronk@213-73-234-202.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #kubuntu === Chris_Haston [n=Chris_Ha@c-69-180-43-207.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] [10:43] kkathman: no problem -- I had forgotten how to quickly repackage a .deb anyhow, so good stuff [10:43] Sonny_Wertzik: would you mind uploading it to yousendit or something like that? [10:44] fatejudger, to you? [10:44] Sonny_Wertzik: yeah [10:44] I have a media button problem [10:44] Sonny_Wertzik: just upload it to yoursendit or something and msg me the link [10:44] Sonny_Wertzik: if it isn't too much trouble [10:45] fatejudger, sure ...what machine u got .... want i586.deb? [10:45] Sonny_Wertzik: sure, the .deb works [10:45] fatejudger, 1 sec [10:45] Sonny_Wertzik: k, thanks [10:46] does anyone know what's up with hoary-extras? [10:47] Is there a way to link the Master and Master Mono indicators together in kmix? [10:47] for Sound [10:48] nikitis: why do you need mono? [10:48] !sources [10:48] A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic [10:48] My Laptop uses it in conjunction with the Master volume, and it sounds 1000 times better when they are both on [10:48] Sonny_Wertzik: isn't that an rpm? [10:48] When master volume is on, and mono is off, it sounds terrible [10:49] fatejudger, ya but u can alien it === Pasarela [n=Pasarela@82.158.92.3] has joined #kubuntu [10:49] true [10:49] well that didn't work too well [10:49] fatejudger, ?? [10:49] it didn't send [10:49] www.yousendit.com === _noah [n=noah@66-141-90-76.ded.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:49] use that [10:49] So do you know of a way to link the two together so that if I lower the master volume, the mono lowers as well? [10:50] fatejudger, ive never tried to send a file b4 [10:50] nikitis: why don't you just crank up the mono [10:50] nikitis: and then control the volume using the master? [10:50] because when I hit mute with my keyboard === Pasarela [n=Pasarela@82.158.92.3] has left #kubuntu ["Abandonando"] [10:50] the mono doesn't close [10:50] and it's still loud [10:50] or volume down [10:50] with my keyboard === Sgep [n=sgeo@ool-182e9882.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:50] Sonny_Wertzik: you'd have to forward some ports to get DCC working [10:50] <_noah> I'm going to upgrade my Kubuntu 5.04 install to 5.10. Is it better to do it in the console instead of having KDE started? [10:50] the master goes down and then mono is still on [10:50] Sonny_Wertzik: just use www.yousendit.com [10:50] they need to be linked [10:51] Why isn't uclient a part of (k)ubuntu? [10:51] _noah: it really doesn't matter [10:51] There's a package for it in debian [10:51] _noah: everything is loaded into memory anyway [10:51] yet another problem shows up === tackywater [n=jonstorr@S01060011954c8514.cg.shawcable.net] has left #kubuntu [] [10:51] <_noah> So, if I do it in the terminal, I shouldn't have any problems? [10:52] fatejudger, iok whats ur email address? [10:52] So anyway to link them? [10:52] or make it so that when I hit my Keyboard button it does both? [10:53] Like assign a keyboard button to do two things [10:53] if i try to erase a folder from the hard drive i just formatted, i get this error: "Creating folders is not supported with protocol trash" [10:54] Sonny_Wertzik: did you get my PM? === upyuro [n=upyuro@71.195.196.174] has joined #kubuntu [10:54] Is there a way to assign one keyboard button to do two task? [10:55] nikitis: possibly, that seems a little weird though [10:55] fatejudger, ya its on its way [10:55] How would I do it? I have the keycode [10:56] Sonny_Wertzik: thanks [10:56] fatejudger, np [10:56] can anyone help me out for a quick minute? [10:56] maybe assigning it to a script file that executes those 2 tasks? === arwate [n=arwate@p54A38536.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:57] Well not really, If I could assign the volume down button to turn down both master and mono [10:57] my problem would be solved [10:57] ah no idea then [10:58] fatejudger, Basically, the master mono is for the subwoofer, and my laptop has a "mini-subwoofer" Without it, the sound quality is terrible [10:59] fatejudger, i cant get moodin to work ... if you do can u let me know [10:59] Sonny_Wertzik: sure [10:59] fatejudger, thx.... it says 1 to 5 min till it sends === opinel [n=opinel@119.Red-80-38-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:01] fatejudger, thx.... ummm make that 5 to 10min till it sends...its 2.1 mb [11:02] fatejudger, ok its there [11:02] Sonny_Wertzik: can you help me out real quick? [11:02] Sonny_Wertzik: ok, thanks [11:02] musashiden, sure [11:02] musashiden, if i can [11:03] Sonny_Wertzik: if i try to erase a folder from the hard drive i just formatted, i get this error: "Creating folders is not supported with protocol trash" [11:03] musashiden, hmmm === angelusco [n=angelusc@200.94.227.91] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [11:04] musashiden, i missed what u did to fix ur stuff...what filesystem did u use? [11:05] ext3 === seezer [n=seezer@p54951919.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [11:05] i used that program you have me, from gnome [11:05] to format it [11:06] musashiden, ya.....have you rebooted yet? [11:06] erm, not really === furrybunny [n=jon@h-66-167-177-213.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:07] musashiden, im not sure u would even have to but i my knowledge is limited there [11:07] musashiden, it couldnt hurt....eh um... [11:08] ill give it a try. thanks anyways [11:08] musashiden, ok === bimberi [n=bimberi@DC-245-58.bpb.bigpond.com] has joined #kubuntu === marvinalone [n=marvin@ip70-187-179-165.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === PJeremy_ [n=PJeremy@p54A2E90D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === beto [n=beto@200-112-139-53.bbt.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu [11:14] hello there [11:14] someone can help me? [11:15] whats up beto :) [11:15] hi beta [11:15] beto [11:15] sorry [11:15] lol [11:15] :) [11:15] I have a network issue [11:15] what is it? === kkathman switches the a an o keys on raphink keyboard [11:15] I connect to inet, but after a while (ten mins) it falls down === PJeremy_ is now known as PJeremy === bosstones [n=bosstone@port-195-158-164-245.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu [11:16] I've checked the temperature and it's ok [11:16] what falls down? [11:16] the connection [11:16] the network or the comp? [11:16] beto: the whole system goes down or just the net? [11:16] then it's not a temp issue [11:16] I loose the link [11:16] Just the net kk [11:16] can you still ping ? [11:16] like google or so [11:17] Nup, I can't [11:17] like all of a sudden you get no network [11:17] I recieve inet from another computer with a bandwidth limiter [11:17] yep [11:17] dhcp ? [11:17] yep [11:17] hmm [11:17] I've tried to make it manually but I get the same result [11:17] can you still ping the other comp? [11:18] sounds like the other computer is closing the connection [11:18] yes kkathman I think so too [11:18] I've used the same conection with Win98 and it never felt... [11:18] it doesn't seem to be coming from your comp beto [11:18] hmm [11:18] well you said there's a bandwidth limiter [11:18] beto, it sounds like your dhcp lease is not being renewed [11:19] aha [11:19] do you have dhcpcd running? [11:19] I don't know [11:19] How I look that? [11:19] beto [11:19] ps x | grep dhcp [11:19] or === jbasilio [n=jbasilio@pool-70-20-187-139.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:19] run "ps ax" and look for dhcp [11:19] sudo ps x | grep dhcp [11:19] nup [11:19] nothing is there === musashiden [n=musashid@pool-162-84-48-57.sal.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:20] hmm marvinalone I have dhcp too and I have no dhcpd running [11:20] as a client [11:20] You mean that I have to be running a daemon for dhcp or something??? [11:21] I don't think so [11:21] i have to admit, i dont know the dhcp specifics on ubuntu, my address is static === isaac [n=isaac@debian/developer/isaac] has left #kubuntu [] [11:21] It's pretty weird [11:21] but dhcp gives you an ip on a lease === jean [n=jean@p54AAA16E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [11:21] and you know what? [11:21] oh right [11:21] and the lease has to be renewed [11:21] sorry marvinalone stupid me I switched to static ;) [11:21] hehe [11:21] I have been connected for 15' and it doesn't crash... [11:21] usually, the daemon that does that is dhcpcd [11:22] and how I start it? [11:22] leases can be of varying length, but it is unusual for the connection to be up for 10 minutes one time, and 20 minutes another time [11:22] beto: you can try dhclient [11:22] to renew your lease [11:22] Ok [11:22] when you lose the connection [11:22] let's see [11:23] you might have to run it as root [11:23] It says this: [11:23] sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 [11:23] can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases: Permission denied [11:23] Can't create /var/run/dhclient.pid: Permission denied [11:23] yes [11:23] drop_privileges: could not set group id: Operation not permitted [11:23] run it as root [11:23] sudo dhclient [11:23] beto@betox:~$ dhclient [11:23] Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.2 [11:23] Copyright 2004 Internet Systems Consortium. [11:23] All rights reserved. [11:23] For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP [11:23] ok [11:23] and please don't paste more than 3 linutes in here === bimberi [n=bimberi@DC-245-58.bpb.bigpond.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:23] Ok I'm sorry [11:23] new at IRC too :P [11:24] It seems that it got started === bimberi [n=bimberi@DC-245-58.bpb.bigpond.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:24] when you want to paste long texts, use the pastebine [11:24] pastebin [11:24] Now what I have to do? [11:24] wait and see if it works? [11:24] jajaj [11:24] ping === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:24] whatever server you want [11:24] Ok thanks a lot goys [11:25] If I can still chatting with you it's working ;) [11:25] yah [11:25] hahahaha [11:25] LOOOOOOOOOOL [11:25] sorry [11:25] taht should be put on bash [11:25] ;) [11:27] i'ts a funny one === jean [n=jean@p54AAA16E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === jean [n=jean@p54AAA16E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === jean [n=jean@p54AAA16E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [11:28] for some reason I can't get alien to run after apt-get(ing) it [11:28] what do you mean fatejudger ? [11:28] it just won't run [11:28] it doesn't show up in the KMenu [11:29] sure === marvinalone is now known as marvinalone-away [11:29] alien is not a gui program [11:29] so there's no reason to find it in the kmenu [11:29] it isn't? [11:29] if all progs were in the kmenu [11:29] the kmenu wouldn't fit on your screen === Blissex [i=pcg@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu [11:29] no it isen't [11:29] alien is a console app [11:29] app [11:31] the kmenu is already bloated in the default imho.. [11:31] fatejudger: alien is used like this : alien package.rpm (makes a .deb) [11:31] ok thanks [11:31] then you install the .deb [11:31] that worked [11:31] I just thought that it was a GUI program [11:31] nope [11:31] :) === eriksti [n=eriksti@v091c.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #kubuntu [11:32] I could have sworn it was when I was running Hoary === mrmarcel [n=mrmarcel@p548543C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:32] maybe I confused it with Ark or something [11:32] fatejudger: I've been using it for years - never seen a GUI for it [11:32] if I install Eclipse using apt-get/Adept, what'll be the install directory? [11:33] eriksti: you can see all the files it installs with dpkg -L eclipse [11:34] or whatever the package name is [11:34] dpkg -L eclipse | grep bin would show the binaries I guess (never installed eclipse ) [11:35] thoreauputic: somebody should make QT based GUI for it [11:35] thoreauputic: if I have time I might do that [11:36] fatejudger: well, alien should be an absolute last resort, you know ;) [11:36] thoreauputic: true [11:36] thoreauputic: I'm not looking for bin though.. I wanna unzip a thing which will let me use eclipse to develop php in the right directory, and I find it both in usr/share/eclipse and /usr/local/share/eclipse [11:36] thoreauputic: this package I just installed using alien isn't working out too well [11:37] fatejudger: that's often the case with aliened rpm etc [11:37] thoreauputic: plugins and features directories exist in both locations, that's why I'm confused [11:38] eriksti: I see - well I'm not much help as I'm not familiar with eclipse - i assume there's a #eclipse or similar on freenode [11:38] ok thanks [11:38] somebody needs to host the moodin .deb package === davedorm [n=Dave@pool-71-100-25-27.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === IRCMonkey23 [n=chatzill@a81-14-183-68.net-htp.de] has joined #kubuntu [11:41] how do you change the fonts for applications like firefox? they're gtk i presume === kalenedrael [n=kalene@c-24-34-72-14.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === duende [n=duende@wiley-336-81143.roadrunner.nf.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:43] IRCMonkey23: in Firefox..Preferences === ljl [n=ljl@62-101-126-208.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #kubuntu [11:43] kkathman: i think those are just for displaying websites. i meant the application itself.... [11:43] IRCMonkey23: usually these are set by each application [11:43] no [11:44] IRCMonkey23: typically, any fonts in the application are application based [11:44] Things on the desktop are set via system settings [11:44] i see [11:45] kkathman: i got the admin stuff working, thanks for the advice [11:45] kkathman: and now it sees my USB key drive [11:45] great [11:46] yeah, once I installed a few packages it's fine... where do I get codecs for Kaffeine? [11:46] need to play .MOV and .AVI [11:46] hi i had a question regarding the display on my ubuntu installation. [11:46] from the breezy-extras-staging repository, i think [11:47] what's the name of the packages? === marvinalone-away [n=marvin@ip70-187-179-165.oc.oc.cox.net] has left #kubuntu [] [11:47] w32codecs [11:47] w32codecs [11:47] or something like that [11:47] ljl: thanks === ljl is now known as LjL === Spudchat [n=spud@ppp-69-219-39-89.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:51] hmm [11:51] how do I get that repo [11:51] ?? [11:51] i don't understand. [11:52] ah, a bot [11:52] lol [11:52] how do I get that repository in Adept? [11:52] i'm not sure where it is right now... i found it looking for breezy-extras-staging on google [11:52] ok, I am new to Adept [11:53] it's frustrating because I am not a n00b, but new to Kubuntu [11:54] !repos [11:54] I guess repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource [11:54] i don't use adept [11:54] you can do this, download http://backports.ubuntu.clemsonlinux.org/dists/breezy-extras-staging/restricted/binary-i386/w32codecs_20050412+breezy0.0.1_all.deb [11:54] and then do "dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412+breezy0.0.1_all.deb" [11:54] kk [11:57] hi guys [11:58] is there a way to reduce the size of the characters in the terminal outside of kde? [11:58] not the emulated terminal, the one that i access by ctrl-alt-f1 and so on.. [11:58] mie is too big!! [12:00] LjL: I don't think that package is valid [12:00] LjL: it's only 10k [12:00] well that did not work too well [12:00] tux magazine has a great article this month about installing w32codecs and the libraries needed to play most dvds [12:01] i used it and it works fine for me [12:01] I installed the codecs but it still won't play a Quicktime