[01:47] <cafuego> Is there a known problem with using Edubuntu on vmware5?
[09:22] <cafuego> Anyone awake today?
[09:34] <juliux> cafuego, yes
[09:44] <highvoltage> yep, more or less.
[10:09] <newbiewLTSP> please help
[10:09] <newbiewLTSP> had problem with the LTSP display manager
[10:09] <newbiewLTSP> can't login username and password
[10:43] <Velmont> newbiewLTSP: Made a user on the server with ssh-axx etc? 
[10:44] <Velmont> I didn't manage to get it to work, but then I did something and it worked. Don't remember what though :p Think it was more like a "wait some minutes, try again"-thing... Hm.
[01:01] <gand_> hi all
[01:01] <gand_> I wish to install moodle on edubuntu
[01:02] <gand_> I see that is not among synaptic package list, I'm right?
[01:10] <gand_> ok thank see you later
[02:04] <chilenoneto> hi
[02:05] <chilenoneto> anybody there?
[02:05] <chilenoneto> join #ubuntu
[02:08] <apokryphos> chilenoneto: no-one!
[02:08] <chilenoneto> heheh
[02:08] <apokryphos> no, there are :)
[02:08] <chilenoneto> im looking for someone to ask 
[02:09] <apokryphos> no point asking to ask; just ask =)
[02:09] <jsgotangco> hi all
[02:09] <pitux> hello chilenoneto
[02:09] <pitux> i from Chile too
[02:09] <chilenoneto> i have some questions about the availability of Edubunto in the ship-it program on UBUntu
[02:09] <chilenoneto> heheh 
[02:09] <jsgotangco> chilenoneto: its not yet available in shipit
[02:10] <chilenoneto> espaol para nosotros, english to the rest
[02:10] <chilenoneto> there is no plan for it to be shipped?
[02:10] <chilenoneto> i have a huge project involving public schools here in asuncion paraguay (where i'm living)
[02:11] <jsgotangco> chilenoneto: none at the moment, probably a few hunderd cds by next year (dapper)
[02:11] <jsgotangco> we'd like to polish it further
[02:11] <chilenoneto> put me on the list
[02:11] <chilenoneto> hehehe
[02:12] <chilenoneto> i knew the ubuntu some time ago , i liked to get it on the schools here, talked with some government people and now we are working to shape a projhect involving linux, and opensource
[02:13] <pitux> chilenoneto cool ;D
[02:13] <apokryphos> nice
[02:13] <chilenoneto> project
[02:14] <chilenoneto> so i'm downloading the edubuntu 5.10 for testing porpouses
[02:15] <chilenoneto> there is a lot to do here in paraguay, cause the technology adoption it's more than poor
[02:15] <apokryphos> cool; let us know what you think of it after
[03:46] <vincenzio> today is the day we set up edubuntu with my tenth grade.
[04:02] <JaneW> vincenzio: great, good luck and enjoy
[05:28] <vzl> hi!
[05:28] <vzl> I have a new edubuntu setup running, and the client cannot log in with either the admin user or a non-admin user.
[05:28] <vzl> lil help?
[05:32] <vzl> I have a new edubuntu setup running, and the client cannot log in with either the admin user or a non-admin user.
[05:32] <vzl> any advice, ogra?
[05:33] <ogra> vzl, check /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/known_hosts
[05:34] <ogra> it should contain a key
[05:35] <vzl> you mean ssh_known_hosts?
[05:35] <ogra> if it doesnt, run "sudo ltsp-build-sshkeys" on the server and make sure the ssh server runs
[05:35] <ogra> yes, sorry
[05:35] <vzl> there are four lines of keys there.
[05:35] <vzl> but they're all for my eth0, not my eth1
[05:35] <vzl> (nat)
[05:36] <vzl> (two nic setup)
[05:36] <ogra> hmm, how did you install edubuntu ? 
[05:36] <vzl> from the cd?
[05:36] <vzl> it asked for which nic would be the primary nic, and I said eth0 and gave it a static ip, and then once installed, went and gave eth1 192.168.0.1 and activated it.
[05:37] <vzl> clients on 0.1, internet on eth0
[05:37] <ogra> ah, k the static ip should be for the thin clients
[05:37] <vzl> okay, how badly am I doing here- did I issue dhcp over the interface that's going to the internet?
[05:37] <ogra> just wipe the file and run the above command again while the interface is up, that should be enough
[05:38] <ogra> nope, if your thin clients boot, all is fine with dhcp
[05:38] <vzl> ltsp-build-sshkeys is not a found command.
[05:39] <vzl> do you mean update?
[05:39] <vzl> instead of build?
[05:39] <ogra> err, yes...
[05:41] <vzl> ok, my admin user can log in froma client. but a non-admin user cannot.
[05:41] <vzl> i lie, it just worked on the third try
[05:42] <ogra> :)
[05:42] <vzl> now, how to do both pxe and etherboot?
[05:43] <ogra> use a rom-o-matic etherboot image, they have a pxe mode for that...
[05:43] <vzl> oh good.
[05:44] <ogra> there is some info somewhere on wiki.edubuntu.org 
[05:44] <ogra> but the rom-o-matic creator is very straight forward, doesnt really require instrucions imho...
[05:44] <vzl> you say that now...
[05:44] <vzl> ;)
[05:45] <vzl> this is excellent.
[05:46] <vzl> now, how bad would it be to do this over 802.11b ?
[05:46] <vzl> or g?
[05:47] <ogra> there is a wireless bootimage mentioned somewhere on the ltsp wiki, you can try that, i have no experience with wlan ltsp to be honest :)
[05:47] <ogra> but you will need a bootdevice for that (cdrom, floppy, whatever)
[05:48] <vzl> sure, sure
[06:44] <magnon> ogra: oh, my colleague made a wlan boot once
[06:44] <magnon> but it's not very sexy.
[06:55] <juliux> ogra, ping
[06:56] <vincenzio> magnon: it isn't?
[06:56] <vincenzio> uses a lot of network resources?
[06:56] <magnon> vincenzio: no, just the process it uses to boot wlan could be nicer
[06:57] <vincenzio> I wonder, is that process documented anywhere?
[06:57] <magnon> probably not
[06:57] <magnon> my colleague is a slacker :p
[06:58] <vincenzio> where do you work, may I ask?
[06:58] <magnon> own business
[06:58] <magnon> me, him, and a third slacker :)
[06:59] <vincenzio> nice.
[06:59] <vincenzio> two slackers?
[07:00] <magnon> thre
[07:00] <magnon> e
[07:00] <magnon> I slack as well :)
[07:00] <vincenzio> right.
[07:00] <vincenzio> what line of work is it where you can slack and own your own business for any length of time, I wonder.
[07:00] <magnon> depends how much profit you want
[07:01] <vincenzio> so, how much do you want? ;)
[07:01] <magnon> right now, more than I have :D
[07:02] <magnon> actually we're just slacking because I was going to UBZ and that wasn't a good time to get new projects
[07:03] <magnon> when I stop jetlagging I will work a lot
[07:08] <jelkner> highvoltage: how are you?
[07:09] <magnon> hello, elkner
[07:09] <jelkner> magnon: do you have a minute to answer a question or 2?
[07:10] <magnon> sure
[07:10] <jelkner> i've a few issues with this edubuntu system, and only 20 minutes before i have to leave for my next class
[07:10] <jelkner> first problem:
[07:10] <jelkner> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[07:11] <magnon> ouch. on breezy? not good
[07:11] <magnon> but it's only a warning, it shouldn't be a problem
[07:11] <jelkner> yeah, but i don't get that on the other systems, why?
[07:11] <magnon> I saw some other people having the same problem, but can't remember anyone saying why
[07:12] <jelkner> ok, more important problem
[07:12] <ogra> jelkner, because the mirror you use is just in the middle of an update...
[07:12] <jelkner> ahh, thanks!
[07:12] <highvoltage> jelkner: good thanks, and you?
[07:12] <jelkner> more serious problem: no can log in
[07:12] <ogra> run apt-get update again / reload in synaptic to get the fixed key ...
[07:12] <jelkner> ok
[07:12] <jelkner> Nov  7 13:07:01 localhost gconfd (root-7916): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 3
[07:12] <jelkner> Nov  7 13:07:01 localhost gconfd (root-7916): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/usr/share/gconf/local.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 4
[07:12] <jelkner> Nov  7 13:07:01 localhost gconfd (root-7916): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/usr/share/gconf/cdd.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 5
[07:12] <jelkner> Nov  7 13:07:01 localhost gconfd (root-7916): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/usr/share/gconf/debian.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 6Nov  7 13:07:01 localhost gconfd (root-7916): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/var/lib/gconf/defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 7
[07:12] <highvoltage> i just bought my first car.
[07:13] <jelkner> congratulations!
[07:13] <magnon> jelkner: oh, that's normal
[07:13] <ogra> check /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh for a valid known_hosts file and check that sshd is running
[07:13] <highvoltage> jelkner: thanks :)
[07:13] <ogra> the above messages are normal login messages
[07:13] <jelkner> but it won't let me log in
[07:13] <jelkner> or anyone
[07:14] <ogra> have you read what i wrote above ? 
[07:14] <magnon> I doubt that gconf is the error then
[07:14] <jelkner> yes, hold on...
[07:14] <ogra> if the file is empty or the interfaces changed since install it wont hold the right keys
[07:14] <jelkner> ahh, there is no known_hosts file
[07:14] <ogra> just run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys 
[07:15] <ogra> it should (re)generate it
[07:15] <vincenzio> jelkner: it's ssh_known_hosts anyway
[07:15] <ogra> yup
[07:16] <jelkner> ok, let me try to log in...
[07:22] <jelkner> great, everything works!
[07:23] <jelkner> i just setup an hp laserjet printer on the net using directjet... worked like a charm
[07:23] <magnon> oh good :)
[07:23] <magnon> printers are becoming less crap
[07:23] <jelkner> ok, the customer is happy, time to go back to teaching... ;-)
[07:23] <jelkner> see you all later.
[07:23] <jelkner> thanks!
[07:24] <ogra> bye
[07:24] <magnon> what customer :D
[07:25] <vincenzio> he's in a school environ. I imagine the customer was a teacher.
[07:26] <magnon> I know who he is ;)
[07:26] <vincenzio> I'm also teaching a class at the moment
[07:30] <highvoltage> ogra: howdy.
[07:31] <ogra> highvoltage, what is this jonathan launchpad team for ?
[07:31] <ogra> hi, btw
[07:31] <highvoltage> it's a secret among the jonathan's of Ubuntu.
[07:32] <highvoltage> we have to keep the mystery up :)
[07:32] <highvoltage> ogra: are you back at home?
[07:32] <ogra> nope...
[07:32] <highvoltage> how are you doing? canada nice?
[07:32] <ogra> trying to come over my hangover from yesterday night and wait for time to pass for grabbing my taxi
[07:33] <highvoltage> sounds amasing.
[07:33] <highvoltage> it's been a long while since i had a hangover.
[07:34] <highvoltage> i've come to some realisations the past few weeks. i thought that i have to wait until i have a long period of leave before getting involved in motu, and doing gym regularly, taking guitar lessons... etc.
[07:35] <highvoltage> but then i realised i should just learn to schedule all the things i want to do in my regular routine.
[07:35] <highvoltage> so i'm going to do some planning this week and get my time management sorted out.
[07:35] <ogra> the weather is intrestingly springlike
[07:35] <highvoltage> how so?
[07:36] <ogra> sunny and warm
[07:36] <highvoltage> here the spring is only giving us hayfever.
[07:36] <highvoltage> ah, right, it's "fall" there :)
[07:36] <ogra> they lock the room for lunch...
[07:36] <ogra> so i have to leave...
[07:36] <highvoltage> are you outside?
[07:36] <ogra> brb
[07:43] <juliux> ogra, here it something about the workshop in essen http://www.poweroftwo.de/wiki/index.php/Edubuntu  what dou you think about it?
[12:00] <cafuego> Anyone still awake?