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| Tonio_ | morning everyone | 09:48 |
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| icefox | ping _Sime | 03:49 |
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| _Sime | icefox: twang! (I might be available later tonight) | 04:03 |
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| icefox | ok, buzz me when you are around | 04:39 |
| icefox | I was curious what you ment by the fact that the keyboard was hard to find in the system settings | 04:39 |
| === icefox wrote that app and wants to improve it | ||
| Riddell | icefox: oh, that part might have been me | 04:41 |
| Riddell | sime wants a new keyboard module thingy | 04:41 |
| icefox | a new keyboard module thingy? | 04:41 |
| icefox | something with system settings or in the os? | 04:42 |
| Riddell | icefox: but the finding the keyboard is a problem because there's a "keyboard" module with nothg very useful and there's the "regional" module with all the useful keyboard stuff | 04:42 |
| Riddell | icefox: sime wants a new guidance kcontrol module | 04:42 |
| Riddell | but that's a separate issue | 04:42 |
| Drakeson | is the sudo issue still there? (just create another user, add it to adm, and sudo groups, and there we are: login using that new user, sudo smothing, and note that no one asks for the password!) | 04:45 |
| icefox | Riddell: yah the keyboard stuff is a mess | 04:46 |
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| hunger | icefox: I think the shortcuts stuff is even worse... | 04:47 |
| icefox | ok, just making sure we were on the same page, I'll see if I can't do the same work for 3.5 and 4 | 04:47 |
| icefox | hunger: do you mean the application keyboard shortcuts? | 04:47 |
| icefox | or shortcuts in general? | 04:47 |
| hunger | icefox: Botd. | 04:47 |
| icefox | botd? | 04:47 |
| icefox | both? | 04:48 |
| Riddell | Drakeson: "admin" group | 04:48 |
| Drakeson | Riddell: yeah that one as well | 04:48 |
| Riddell | Drakeson: does it work on the command line? | 04:48 |
| hunger | icefox: There are "Global shortcuts", "Shortcut sequences" and "Application Shortcuts" in the control center. | 04:49 |
| icefox | yah | 04:49 |
| icefox | I want to clean that up | 04:49 |
| Drakeson | Riddell: not sure, but told it to someone in #ubuntu, he checked it and approved the bug, but I didn't notice what happened next | 04:49 |
| hunger | icefox: Then there are more shortcuts to be configured in the apps. | 04:49 |
| icefox | http://wiki.kde.org/?page=System+Settings | 04:50 |
| hunger | icefox: And you can set Shortcuts in the menu editor, too. Plus khotkeys (or whatever that gesture/stuff thingy is called). | 04:50 |
| hunger | icefox: kate even has several inner-app shortcut pages. | 04:50 |
| icefox | every kde app should have a shortcut configure dialog, but yes kate takes it one more level | 04:51 |
| Drakeson | Riddell: it was really scary for me, because it kills security badly. just imagine someone publish ascript that does bad things and contains a sudo line, and you don't even notice what happened. | 04:51 |
| hunger | icefox: It is a pita to try to find out what a key actually does;-) | 04:51 |
| icefox | yes | 04:52 |
| Drakeson | hunger, icefox: I think it should be possible for the search bar to search through "Shortcut" col as well as the "Action" col there. And also there should be a way to put "Global Shortcuts" some apps define by themselves into keyboard shortcuts module. | 04:56 |
| hunger | Drakeson: That would help! | 04:56 |
| icefox | col? | 04:56 |
| icefox | column? | 04:56 |
| Drakeson | column | 04:56 |
| hunger | Drakeson: Then I only need to find out which config dialog I need to open;-) | 04:57 |
| icefox | well right now it uses the strings in the desktop file, so if they don't have shortcut we should add them | 04:57 |
| Drakeson | what's wrong with some apps like say kopete, which have global shortcuts, without any trace in the module we are talking about. (while some apps like klipper have their shortcuts there) | 04:59 |
| icefox | desktop applications should have shortcuts there (i.e what goes in kdebase) | 05:00 |
| Drakeson | if an app defines global shortcuts I think it must go there as well. | 05:01 |
| Drakeson | Riddell: can you check the sudo issue please :D | 05:04 |
| Riddell | Drakeson: what is the issue? | 05:05 |
| Drakeson | create a new user, add it to sudo, adm, admin, and login using it. now sudo ls. does it ask for a password? | 05:06 |
| Drakeson | for me it doesn't | 05:06 |
| Drakeson | Riddell: another thing: I am really sorry I couldn't manage to find a suitable image for the CD sleeve/cover. | 05:09 |
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| Riddell | Drakeson: do you have SVGs of yor stuff? | 05:15 |
| Drakeson | yeah, at the same place, just a moment | 05:15 |
| Riddell | Drakeson: if you get me an SVG of the sort of design you were showing a few days ago I can slap a konqi or kubuntu-girl on it and finish it off | 05:16 |
| seaLne | can kubuntu-girl get a blue background this time? | 05:16 |
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| Riddell | seaLne: yes defaintly, I was trying to move away from just using blue with the purple but it doesn't work very well | 05:17 |
| Riddell | well, actually it should have Drakeson's backgrounds | 05:17 |
| seaLne | i like the idea of a breezy cd having a picture of someone looking at a hoary cd on it :) | 05:18 |
| apokryphos | seaLne: breezy CD cover hadn't been made yet ;-) | 05:18 |
| Riddell | of course I'll need a kubuntu-boy for dapper | 05:19 |
| === Riddell eyes up seaLne | ||
| seaLne | although if you changed it so that she was holding a breezy cd that would be a very nice recursive image :) | 05:19 |
| Drakeson | Riddell: http://gazor3.ece.queensu.ca/~hon/Drakeson/ | 05:19 |
| Riddell | Drakeson: wonderful | 05:20 |
| apokryphos | very very sweet | 05:20 |
| apokryphos | 64 bits, or 64-bit? | 05:21 |
| Drakeson | that's not final ( or even close to final) because it is not possible to print it for cover, so yes I need to spell check :) | 05:22 |
| seaLne | not normally plural i'd have said | 05:22 |
| Drakeson | (and sorry for my never ending missssspellings ;) ) | 05:23 |
| apokryphos | might also be a good idea to have an indication on the Install CD (that it is the Install CD). But it's very n ice; good stuff! :) | 05:23 |
| apokryphos | Drakeson: more just an unconventional way of writing it; not really a seplling mistake ;-) | 05:24 |
| Drakeson | anyway, we still need to have something to put on the sleeve, or we can settle on konqi/kubuntu-girl | 05:25 |
| Drakeson | I was thinking of a computer lab with lot's of computer running kubuntu, but I couldn't find such a lab yet ;) | 05:26 |
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| Drakeson | what do you think of adding something like this (just the concept, the current one is crap) for the cd cover/sleeve? | 05:51 |
| Drakeson | http://gazor3.ece.queensu.ca/~hon/Drakeson/lab1.png | 05:51 |
| Riddell | Drakeson: that could work but it would have to be a real photo I think | 05:53 |
| Riddell | we just need seaLne to install it in a lab at his university quietly one evening | 05:54 |
| Drakeson | ;) it would be nice if it is a dense, modern computer lab. | 05:56 |
| Drakeson | I couldn't find a picture of a better computer lab in ggi: yet ;) | 05:56 |
| Drakeson | I don't have a good camera at the moment. Another idea is something like this: http://gazor3.ece.queensu.ca/~hon/Drakeson/achive.jpg | 05:59 |
| Riddell | Drakeson: hmm, interesting | 06:00 |
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| Drakeson | honestly I think the current konqi is not good looking enough, but I cannot change it now. | 06:01 |
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| pef_aw | Riddell: hello, how can I know packages which will be auto mass synced from debian ? like kdissert, I've uploaded a sync from debian to revu, useless work :/ | 06:43 |
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| Riddell | pef: everything is synced from debian at start of release cycle unless there is a version number with "ubuntu" in it | 06:44 |
| pef | Riddell: ok, and where can I see sync progression ? | 06:44 |
| Riddell | this is fun, kubuntu-girl just got a job working with badgers | 06:44 |
| Riddell | pef: dapper-changes | 06:45 |
| DrakeSon | what job? | 06:45 |
| Riddell | pef: you can also ask for a sync from debian fo -ubuntu packages if you don't mind the ubuntu history being wiped out | 06:45 |
| pef | Riddell: yes, for already done packages, but what about remaining packages ? | 06:45 |
| Riddell | Drakeson: vetinary | 06:45 |
| Riddell | Drakeson: I presume they will be breezy badgers once she has fixed all their illnesses :) | 06:46 |
| Drakeson | cooool :) | 06:46 |
| Drakeson | can we have cool/crazy badger image? :D ;) | 06:47 |
| Riddell | pef: dunno, are there packages still to be done? | 06:48 |
| Drakeson | or even a silhouette of a real badger may be useful | 06:48 |
| Riddell | not soon, she's not starting yet | 06:49 |
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| pef | Riddell: I've added a problem with kmail from kde3.5 beta2 to wikipage | 06:52 |
| Riddell | pef: URL? | 06:53 |
| pef | Riddell: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuKDE35BetaKnownProblems | 06:54 |
| Riddell | gosh, lots on that page. | 06:55 |
| Riddell | will be very useful for things to look out for when I make proper KDE 3.5 packages | 06:55 |
| pef | Riddell: I'm working on this bug :) | 06:56 |
| tvo | speaking about KubuntuKDE35BetaKnownProblems, does anyone else have the problem that "Create Folder" is grayed-out on my usbpen? | 06:59 |
| tvo | (pasting a new folder works, mkdir works) | 06:59 |
| hunger | tvo: No, but then I do not have access to your usb pen:-) | 06:59 |
| hunger | tvo: let me check with mine. | 07:00 |
| tvo | well, any usbpen :) | 07:00 |
| hunger | tvo: "Create New" is greyed out here, too. | 07:01 |
| tvo | oh, sorry, "Create New" was what I meant yeah | 07:01 |
| tvo | I'll add it to KubuntuKDE35BetaKnownProblems then | 07:02 |
| hunger | Anyone else having problems with kdesktop? | 07:02 |
| hunger | It crashes here whenever I click on anything in the background. | 07:02 |
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| tvo | hunger: I think I had that 10 times or so just after upgrading to beta2, but it the problem disappeared.. | 07:13 |
| hunger | tvo: Stays persistent here:-( | 07:14 |
| Riddell | sebas: your MWG story talks about an "initial charter", that needs to be available online | 07:14 |
| allee | pef, Riddell: FWIW debian pkger plan to start pkg 3.5 rc1 next weekend. Maybe keep an eye on #debian-qt-kde? | 07:32 |
| allee | you want post wikipage url KubuntuKDE35BetaKnownProblems on? Should I? | 07:34 |
| pef | allee: please post it, I have t go on a few minutes :) | 07:35 |
| allee | 'k | 07:35 |
| allee | pef have a nice internet free evening ;) | 07:36 |
| pef | allee: thank you :) | 07:37 |
| pef | bye ! | 07:37 |
| allee | bye pef | 07:37 |
| Riddell | allee: cool, thanks for the notice | 07:38 |
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| _Sime | icefox: ping | 07:58 |
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| icefox | _Sime|afk: pong | 08:57 |
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| Riddell | Drakeson_away: is there a licence on that artwork? | 10:31 |
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| _Sime | icefox: hey | 11:02 |
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