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nickrudanyone awake?07:23
bhuvannickrud, yes07:24
nickrudI've been working a bit on the restrictedformats page, I was wondering if someone would take a look. http://pinutos.dyndns.org/MyWiki/RestrictedFormats07:24
nickrudmostly the media stuff at the moment. I've kinda changed the focus a bit07:25
wezzerlooks pretty nice07:26
nickrudI'm thinking that more focus on actual use, rather than the abstract way it's been is a way to go.07:27
nickrudplus, it's good practice 07:28
bhuvannickrud, sounds nice over all07:33
bhuvannickrud, but what's the reason behind removing gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg07:33
nickrudnone, that's one reason it needs a bit of proofreading07:35
nickrudwhen I cut and pasted, I pasted over it, I guess and missed it07:36
rob^mdke, yo homie!07:36
nickrudthis, java, and a few other things have bothered me for months. I think focusing on usage will slow down the changes to them07:37
nickrudplus, no more marillat07:37
bhuvanrob^: i'm thinking of preparing the template for server guide based on current wiki spec07:40
rob^the xml template?07:40
bhuvanlet me know if you have already done or have other plans?07:40
rob^there is a template on the wiki page07:40
rob^just needs more love07:41
bhuvanyeah, current guide is fully based on faqguide. 07:41
bhuvanwe must remove couple of sections and make it compatible with w.u.c/ServerGuide07:41
rob^kind of disregard the faq guide, have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerGuide07:41
rob^bhuvan, sure that is all part of it07:41
rob^for instance I have removed all of the server stuff from the desktop guide already that was included in the faq guide07:42
bhuvanok07:43
bhuvanbut clarify, do we really need getting started, where can i download ubuntu, etc.07:43
rob^as a reference check out the bsd user guide07:44
rob^and feel free to use things from the unreleased and not finished Ubuntu user guide found in our repo07:44
bhuvanok07:45
bhuvanbut intended audience are admin/experienced users, right ?07:46
rob^yes07:46
rob^but still make it accessable to everyone with a little knowledge07:46
bhuvanok07:46
bhuvanso, just to be clear, we need not remove topics, but we may add new topics based on w.u.c/ServerGuide ?07:47
rob^feel free to change the template on ServerGuide how you see fit07:48
bhuvanok. i already added couple of topics in ServerGuide07:49
rob^when your happy let me or mdke know and we'll take a look07:49
=== rob^ did a brain dump on serverguide the other day that got it to what you saw initially
=== rob^ also has to prepare a presentation on the ubuntu doc team for my lug meeting tonight :)
rob^grr some nob has got my email address and thinks it is some kind of support service..07:55
bhuvan:)07:56
Madpilotrob^: I got an email like that today as well - I'd been the last person to edit the wiki's scanner page, it seems...07:57
rob^idiots07:57
Madpilot<shrug> just a bit confused...07:57
rob^I even gave the guy links to the forums, irc and help.ubuntu.com and the wiki and he still kept asking me stupid questions..07:57
=== rob^ thinks he will start to filter it if it gets bad
MadpilotOK, that might actually be idiocy. My guy just asked one question about the article he thought I'd written; I sent him back to the forums & told him a bit about how the wiki works..07:59
rob^and just not reply :007:59
rob^:)07:59
rob^my reply: "You will need to register for an account on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/07:59
rob^and post it yourself.."07:59
rob^(yes this was after I have given him that link twice already)08:00
rob^(in the last 30 minutes)08:00
Madpilotbleh...08:02
Madpilotwas this via email or IRC?08:02
rob^email08:02
rob^direct08:02
rob^ie to my email account, not via a list08:03
Madpilotbleh again...08:03
rob^he must have gotten my email from the wiki or something08:03
Madpilotyeah...08:03
Madpilotcontemplating removing my email addy from the wiki - Ubuntu folks who want it can get it thru Launchpad08:03
rob^hmm08:06
mdkerob^, ping?09:04
rob^mdke pong09:07
mdkeaha09:07
mdkerob^, get my PM?09:07
rob^no09:07
rob^brb09:07
mdkerob^, i gtg to work, i just wanted to know what you've done to the desktop guide with all that olink, perhaps you could mail the list about it?09:08
rob^back09:11
rob^sure I was planning to, just haven't had the time09:12
rob^I have xincluded everything, the database and olink stuff was to get the xrefs to work09:12
rob^in the desktop guide at least09:13
mdkedidn't they work before?09:13
rob^when you split things into multiple documents with xinclude you need to create a database of xref, olinks etc09:14
mdkeright09:14
mdkeit has made the makefile really complicated...09:14
rob^heh yeah09:15
mdkei'm concerned because don't forget someone is gonna have to copy all that stuff for every language it get's translated to...09:15
rob^its not that hard to understand once you get the hang of it09:15
mdkeand alter each path09:15
rob^sure, I'm just testing a few things, maybe I'll use a variable or something to make the makefile simpler09:16
mdkethere is a database file in the root of trunk too09:17
rob^yes, the olink db09:17
rob^not sure if it will be needed 09:17
mdkewhy is it in trunk?09:17
rob^because it represents the html build directory format, it would be universal for all documents if we used olinks09:18
mdkeok i gtg now09:18
rob^it could be moved into /build or /common and the directories fixed up, but I'm not sure if we need it09:19
mdkewe can talk later09:19
rob^ok09:19
rob^i gtg to lug meeting anyway09:19
rob^bye09:19
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bhuvanmdke: ping12:02
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jsgotangcohi all02:09
highvoltagehi jsgotangco 02:11
highvoltagehow's the new job? sitting on irc already? :)02:12
jsgotangcolol02:12
jsgotangcoi arrived home a few hours ago02:12
jsgotangcoits pretty much start-up mode atm02:12
jsgotangcoeverything in chaos02:12
highvoltageoh, right. sorry, i tend to forget about timezones :)02:13
jsgotangcolol incidentally, the head of the company is from zimbabwe who relocated to au02:13
jsgotangcokind of reminded me of sabdfl02:13
=== jsgotangco it seems african and me have some sort of destiny
jsgotangcohe saw me instralling ubuntu and he said "hey i know that word"02:15
jsgotangcohe has no idea about th e linux distro though02:15
jjessemorning02:25
jjesselots of changes to svn since friday when i left :)02:26
jsgotangcohey jjesse 02:28
jjessemorning jsgotangco 02:28
jjessejust finished reading the log of the meeting on friday02:28
jsgotangcoahhh02:28
jsgotangcochaotic if you ask me02:28
jjesseme too, couldn't follow things very well, was wondering if anything really got decided02:29
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jsgotangcojjesse: do you want to continue the QuickTour for Dapper or do we focus on a new doc?02:55
jsgotangcojjesse: i mean QuickGuide02:55
jjessewe talked about doing the Quicktour03:11
apokryphosjjesse: any list of docs to do? I figure I might as well get my feet soaked now =)03:17
jjesseapokrphos check out wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDocs03:20
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apokryphosack, sorry about that03:21
jjesseapokryphos: check KubuntuDocs for the list03:34
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apokryphosjjesse: thanks; I'll take a look03:49
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