=== jjesse [i=user@69-87-143-121.async.iserv.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-229-207-169.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.7.130.247] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [i=user@69-87-143-121.async.iserv.net] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === jjesse [i=user@69-87-143-121.async.iserv.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [i=user@69-87-143-121.async.iserv.net] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === bhuvan [n=ubuntu@b14.gw.maa.collab.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === corey_ [n=corey@S0106001217da6aab.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp218-145.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === whiprush_ [n=jorge@64.62.190.212] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nickrud [n=aias@ppp-70-251-26-189.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:23] anyone awake? [07:24] nickrud, yes [07:24] I've been working a bit on the restrictedformats page, I was wondering if someone would take a look. http://pinutos.dyndns.org/MyWiki/RestrictedFormats [07:25] mostly the media stuff at the moment. I've kinda changed the focus a bit [07:26] looks pretty nice [07:27] I'm thinking that more focus on actual use, rather than the abstract way it's been is a way to go. [07:28] plus, it's good practice [07:33] nickrud, sounds nice over all [07:33] nickrud, but what's the reason behind removing gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg [07:35] none, that's one reason it needs a bit of proofreading [07:36] when I cut and pasted, I pasted over it, I guess and missed it [07:36] mdke, yo homie! [07:37] this, java, and a few other things have bothered me for months. I think focusing on usage will slow down the changes to them [07:37] plus, no more marillat [07:40] rob^: i'm thinking of preparing the template for server guide based on current wiki spec [07:40] the xml template? [07:40] let me know if you have already done or have other plans? [07:40] there is a template on the wiki page [07:41] just needs more love [07:41] yeah, current guide is fully based on faqguide. [07:41] we must remove couple of sections and make it compatible with w.u.c/ServerGuide [07:41] kind of disregard the faq guide, have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerGuide [07:41] bhuvan, sure that is all part of it [07:42] for instance I have removed all of the server stuff from the desktop guide already that was included in the faq guide [07:43] ok [07:43] but clarify, do we really need getting started, where can i download ubuntu, etc. [07:44] as a reference check out the bsd user guide [07:44] and feel free to use things from the unreleased and not finished Ubuntu user guide found in our repo [07:45] ok [07:46] but intended audience are admin/experienced users, right ? [07:46] yes [07:46] but still make it accessable to everyone with a little knowledge [07:46] ok [07:47] so, just to be clear, we need not remove topics, but we may add new topics based on w.u.c/ServerGuide ? [07:48] feel free to change the template on ServerGuide how you see fit [07:49] ok. i already added couple of topics in ServerGuide [07:49] when your happy let me or mdke know and we'll take a look === rob^ did a brain dump on serverguide the other day that got it to what you saw initially === rob^ also has to prepare a presentation on the ubuntu doc team for my lug meeting tonight :) [07:55] grr some nob has got my email address and thinks it is some kind of support service.. [07:56] :) [07:57] rob^: I got an email like that today as well - I'd been the last person to edit the wiki's scanner page, it seems... [07:57] idiots [07:57] just a bit confused... [07:57] I even gave the guy links to the forums, irc and help.ubuntu.com and the wiki and he still kept asking me stupid questions.. === rob^ thinks he will start to filter it if it gets bad [07:59] OK, that might actually be idiocy. My guy just asked one question about the article he thought I'd written; I sent him back to the forums & told him a bit about how the wiki works.. [07:59] and just not reply :0 [07:59] :) [07:59] my reply: "You will need to register for an account on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ [07:59] and post it yourself.." [08:00] (yes this was after I have given him that link twice already) [08:00] (in the last 30 minutes) [08:02] bleh... [08:02] was this via email or IRC? [08:02] email [08:02] direct [08:03] ie to my email account, not via a list [08:03] bleh again... [08:03] he must have gotten my email from the wiki or something [08:03] yeah... [08:03] contemplating removing my email addy from the wiki - Ubuntu folks who want it can get it thru Launchpad [08:06] hmm [09:04] rob^, ping? [09:07] mdke pong [09:07] aha [09:07] rob^, get my PM? [09:07] no [09:07] brb [09:08] rob^, i gtg to work, i just wanted to know what you've done to the desktop guide with all that olink, perhaps you could mail the list about it? [09:11] back [09:12] sure I was planning to, just haven't had the time [09:12] I have xincluded everything, the database and olink stuff was to get the xrefs to work [09:13] in the desktop guide at least [09:13] didn't they work before? [09:14] when you split things into multiple documents with xinclude you need to create a database of xref, olinks etc [09:14] right [09:14] it has made the makefile really complicated... [09:15] heh yeah [09:15] i'm concerned because don't forget someone is gonna have to copy all that stuff for every language it get's translated to... [09:15] its not that hard to understand once you get the hang of it [09:15] and alter each path [09:16] sure, I'm just testing a few things, maybe I'll use a variable or something to make the makefile simpler [09:17] there is a database file in the root of trunk too [09:17] yes, the olink db [09:17] not sure if it will be needed [09:17] why is it in trunk? [09:18] because it represents the html build directory format, it would be universal for all documents if we used olinks [09:18] ok i gtg now [09:19] it could be moved into /build or /common and the directories fixed up, but I'm not sure if we need it [09:19] we can talk later [09:19] ok [09:19] i gtg to lug meeting anyway [09:19] bye === linuxboy [n=anon@yoda.frogfoot.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nickrud [n=aias@ppp-70-251-26-189.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === rob^laptop [n=rob@ns.detir.qld.gov.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob^laptop [n=rob@ns.detir.qld.gov.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob^laptop [n=rob@ns.detir.qld.gov.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob^laptop [n=rob@ns.detir.qld.gov.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=bburger@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=bburger@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:02] mdke: ping === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-34-119.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=bburger@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === apokryphos [n=apokryph@70.85.216.98] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:09] hi all [02:11] hi jsgotangco [02:12] how's the new job? sitting on irc already? :) [02:12] lol [02:12] i arrived home a few hours ago [02:12] its pretty much start-up mode atm [02:12] everything in chaos [02:13] oh, right. sorry, i tend to forget about timezones :) [02:13] lol incidentally, the head of the company is from zimbabwe who relocated to au [02:13] kind of reminded me of sabdfl === jsgotangco it seems african and me have some sort of destiny [02:15] he saw me instralling ubuntu and he said "hey i know that word" [02:15] he has no idea about th e linux distro though [02:25] morning [02:26] lots of changes to svn since friday when i left :) [02:28] hey jjesse [02:28] morning jsgotangco [02:28] just finished reading the log of the meeting on friday [02:28] ahhh [02:28] chaotic if you ask me [02:29] me too, couldn't follow things very well, was wondering if anything really got decided === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:55] jjesse: do you want to continue the QuickTour for Dapper or do we focus on a new doc? [02:55] jjesse: i mean QuickGuide [03:11] we talked about doing the Quicktour [03:17] jjesse: any list of docs to do? I figure I might as well get my feet soaked now =) [03:20] apokrphos check out wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDocs === apokryphos [n=apokryph@70.85.216.98] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:21] ack, sorry about that [03:34] apokryphos: check KubuntuDocs for the list === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:49] jjesse: thanks; I'll take a look === apokryphos is out for a bit now === _jsg [n=jsg@ipdial-181-56.tri-isys.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === apokryphos [n=apokryph@70.85.216.98] has joined #ubuntu-doc === judax [n=kvirc@adsl-68-92-149-19.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === enrico [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.247] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@66.103.220.217] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@66.103.220.217] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke checks out dapper