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lfittlwhy were the ggz gaming zone packages removed in dapper?12:15
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bmontyif a package is registering a mime type in its desktop file, do we have to run update-desktop-database in the postinst, or is this handled automatically??12:46
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bmontyanyone know if there is a reason to have to versions of gnat in main and universe?01:07
LaserJockbmonty: 2 versions?01:07
bmontyyeah, main has gnat-4.0 and universe has gnat-3.15p101:08
LaserJockbmonty: no idea, but that seems weird01:08
bmontyit makes for some weird dependecy issues (#3326)01:09
crimsunbmonty: ask elmo to remove gnat-3.15p1 from universe01:28
bmontycrimsun: I thought about that, but I'm concerned that there might be a reason to have the old version around.01:54
LaserJockare we going to have a better system for pacakge removal? Or is the current one (ask elmo) OK?01:56
crimsunit's better to get a better-formed opinion in -devel before asking elmo01:57
crimsunas long as we don't equate "remove from archive" with "morgue" (cf. kamion's response)01:58
LaserJockthat is what I am confused about01:58
crimsunthere's no reason to be confused01:58
crimsundon't refer to the morgue at all01:58
crimsunjust ask for a package to be removed from the archive01:59
crimsunsemantically that's what you want anyway01:59
bmontywhy the sensitivity for the word morgue?01:59
LaserJockOK, that makes sense01:59
crimsunbmonty: the "morgue" was at one time a place where removed packages were stored in case they were mistakenly removed02:00
crimsunso we don't want to move packages to the morgue; we want to remove them from the archive02:00
crimsunjust pretend as if you've never heard of morgue02:00
bmontycrimsun: yeah, I've always refered to getting rid of a package as morguing it02:00
bmontyah..got it02:00
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hubmy GPG KeyID issue is starting to make some noise in the appropriate places02:42
hubI reported the bug to GPG and they forwarded it to SKS-devel02:43
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bmontycheck out this changelog: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/u/uim/uim_0.4.7-2/changelog03:08
bmontyversion 1:0.4.7-2 and 1:0.4.6beta2-103:09
bmontydo you think they are the same security bug? this also applies to Malone #332803:09
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crimsunbmonty: will look in a bit. Testing transcode fix atm.03:26
bmontycrimsun: thanks03:26
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zakamemorning all03:37
bmontyhi zakame03:38
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zakamehi bmonty rbelem03:40
crimsunbmonty: same bug03:44
bmontycrimsun: so do you think the fix is already in uim?03:44
crimsunbmonty: it's already in Debian Sid's uim, yes03:46
bmontythe only thing that made me look twice was the fact that the bug report the lastest changelog references was issued after the earlier version of uim03:46
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crimsunbmonty: 3328's fixable. Do you want to generate a debdiff and send it to universe-security, or shall I?03:51
bmontycrimsun: I was working on the debdiff for breezy and dapper03:52
bmontyI just wanted to make sure that I was reading the changelogs correctly03:52
crimsunbmonty: ok03:52
crimsunyep, you read them correctly03:52
minghuawe have security support for universe? cool03:55
crimsunminghua: not officially03:56
bmontyI think the patch still goes to security-review, right?03:56
crimsunbmonty: yes03:56
minghuabmonty: what part of the changelog is not clear?  I am interested in this security issue as well03:57
minghuabmonty: my understanding is that only mlterm-im-uim is affected in ubuntu03:57
bmontyminghua: look at the current debian version and then scroll down in the changelog to 1:0.4.6beta2-103:57
bmontyhttp://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/u/uim/uim_0.4.7-2/changelog03:58
crimsunbmonty: hmm, I thought you meant between 0.4.7-2 and what Ubuntu has. Harumph. No, those are two different issues with two different CANs.03:59
crimsunbmonty: however, both issues are resolved in 0.4.7-204:00
bmontycrimsun: yes, they look the same in the changelog and the text for the debian bug report is kinda confusing04:00
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crimsunCAN-2005-05-03 is fixed in Ubuntu's Breezy04:00
bmontyI decided that they were different, but I wanted a second set of eyes :)04:01
minghuabmonty: I believe they are different, although I didn't look at the code04:02
minghuaI remember reading both security issue announcements from upstream, they should know what they are talking about04:02
minghuacrimsun, bmonty: the original announcement for the bug fixed by 0.4.6beta2-1 in http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/uim/2005-February/001000.html04:09
minghuaa diff was attached04:09
bmontyminghua: thanks, that is definately a different issue04:10
crimsunyep, that's where I Xreferenced04:10
minghuaoops, that's not a diff for the source, but for RPM spec :-S04:11
minghuabut I believe they are separate issues (although may be related)04:11
bmontylooks like I'll make two fixes, one for breezy, and the new version with the ubuntu changes for dapper04:15
minghuawe really should push the change in 1:0.4.7-1ubuntu1 back to debian04:21
minghuaeither it's a bug in Debian's uim package, or we are missing some feature compared with debian's version04:21
bmontyminghua: there is no FTBFS bug against the debian package and they still have the build-dep ivoks removed04:24
minghuabmonty: there won't be any FTBFS for debian - debian has the pm-dev package04:26
minghuabmonty: it's probably an optional feature04:26
bmontyminghua: i know04:26
minghuaand if no pm-dev is present, the configure will just silently drop the featuer04:27
minghuain that case it's still a bug in debian's package04:27
minghuait should enable that feature explicitly04:27
minghuaI'm just saying we should ask the debian maintanier04:28
bmontywell if they will take the change it makes our fix a simple sync04:28
minghuaI'll do it next week if no one beats me04:28
bmontyi'll ask ivoks when i see him04:29
chillywillyhmmm, you guys have an ancient version of lilypond :(04:43
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LaserJockchillywilly: I assume that will get fixed in the Debian sid sync04:48
bmontyminghua: pm-dev = proxy manager protocol?04:49
minghuabmonty: yes, according to the debian package description04:50
minghuabmonty: it looks useless to me04:50
minghuabut I didn't dig further04:51
bmontyi've been looking through the source from the debian package, and I can't find a reference to it04:52
chillywillyLaserJock: I suppose I can just build the package from sid for now :)04:55
minghuachillywilly: maybe not.  See http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/l/lilypond/2.6.3-9/05:04
minghuachillywilly: and see if you can find the problem and help05:04
chillywillyminghua: that's all greek to me05:10
chillywillylooks like bad depends05:11
LaserJockchillywilly: I think this is the prob:05:11
LaserJockAfter installing, the following source dependencies are still unsatisfied:05:11
LaserJockmftrace(inst 1.1.12-1ubuntu2 ! >= wanted 1.1.17-1)05:11
LaserJockSource-dependencies not satisfied; skipping lilypond05:11
bmontyminghua: I emailed the debian uim maintainer about removing that build dep...you want to know what he says?05:11
minghuasomeone need to merge mftrace then, it seems :-)05:11
minghuabmonty: sure, cc me please, thanks05:12
bmontyminghua: email?05:12
minghuaoops... minghua@rice.edu, sorry :-P05:12
bmonty:)05:12
LaserJockok, I am confused about merging. Is everything being merge manually right now or is automatic merging taking place?05:13
chillywillyall I wanted to do was work up some lead sheets for some tunes but I guess that won't happen tonight :(05:14
chillywillyunless I just want to do plain old boring ASCII ;)05:14
LaserJockchillywilly: aren't there other music typesetting progs out there05:14
bmontyaccording to this month's LinuxJournal, lilypond is the best there is05:15
chillywillylilypond is the shiznit05:15
LaserJockwell, "available" might be better than "best" at this point ;-)05:15
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bmontyLaserJock: heh05:19
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bmontynight everyone05:39
KyralOkay....yah06:07
Kyralthrew out my back06:07
LaserJockKyral: I'm going to wait to email the FlowDesigner devs until your package has been reviewed. We don't want to get them excited until we really have something. I have already sent our intentions to their -devel mailing list06:11
LaserJockI think that should be good for now06:11
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Kyralkk06:15
Kyralg'night06:21
LaserJockcya06:22
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zakamehi all07:16
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zakameafternoon08:05
schweebzakame: heh, there's probably only going ot be a few people ever up at this hour08:08
schweebit's late for the US, ad it's early for europe08:08
bhuvanand noon in india -:)08:09
zakameschweeb: hihi, I reckon most are going back home, if not just arriving home already, from ubz :)08:09
schweebbhuvan: not sure how big of an Indian following we have, but I'm sure there's not enough who want to be MOTU to keep this channel busy :P08:10
bhuvanschweeb, true08:11
zakameit will probably be very busy in a couple of days or so... :/08:12
crimsunwe don't have very long to finish these merges08:17
zakameindeed08:17
schweebargh08:17
schweebanyone ever dealt with IBM or Lenovo US support?08:17
schweebneed to replace my keyboard, and I can't find my warranty info... and the frigging support hotline keeps disconnecting me08:18
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zakamewb pef08:51
siretartgreetings from magnon and me from airport frankurt!08:52
zakamesiretart: glad you're there! :)08:53
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Tonio_morning09:48
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magnonhowdy12:00
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siretarthi from nbg12:49
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linux_CoderI want to participate in Ubuntu development01:11
linux_CoderI am information security engineer and a coder01:11
linux_CoderI only want to contribute in Ubuntu coding01:12
lucaswhich parts ?01:12
linux_Coderwhat do u mean ?01:12
lucasmost software in ubuntu just comes from upstream01:12
linux_Coderok01:12
lucas"ubuntu coding" often means "upstream software coding"01:12
lucasfor example, the desktop is gnome. see http://www.gnome.org/01:13
linux_Coderwhat's the work to do, if i want to contribute for ubuntu coding ?01:13
lucasit depends on what you mean by "ubuntu coding"01:15
lucaswhich part of ubuntu are you interested in coding ?01:15
linux_Coderactually, I am new to ubuntu01:15
linux_Coderinfact, I have ordered for Ubuntu thru shipit01:16
linux_Coderbut I am into linux for 3 years01:16
linux_Coderand coding in C & C++ for more than 5 years01:16
linux_Coderintrested in System side programming ..01:16
lucasget familiar with the ubuntu wiki, the bugzilla, etc01:16
linux_Coderand love Open Source stuffs.. would like to join Ubuntu community.01:16
lucasthe easiest way to do that is just to find an interesting bug, fix it, and provide a patch01:17
linux_Coderhmm..ok01:17
linux_Coderlucas: thank you01:18
lucasnp01:18
linux_Coderlucas: you are really helpful01:18
linux_Coderlucas: I have one more query :)01:22
linux_CoderI want to search only for bugs related to codes.. not others ..01:23
lucasyou should search for bugs in software you are interested in hacking01:24
lucasit's easier01:24
linux_Coderok01:26
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linux_Coderlucas: thank u01:26
linux_Coderbye all01:26
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cyberixCan I vote somewhere for GNUnet 0.7 getting dappered? :-)03:31
slomomaybe... is it already in debian? ;)03:32
cyberixYes03:32
slomothen it's no problem... i'll take care of it03:32
cyberixslomo: Great.03:33
cyberixslomo: I must warn you, that it is very different from 0.6-series03:33
slomonp... debian already has a 0.7 package so the 0.6->0.7 conversion is not my problem anymore03:34
cyberixOk03:34
cyberixslomo: Are you going to get it to launchpad too, or will I have to ask somewhere else for that?03:35
cyberixslomo: I'd like to work on Finnish translation once it is in launchpad.03:35
slomono... just create the package/product yourself there03:36
slomoand gnunet-gtk will be updated too03:38
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zakamehello all03:40
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cyberixslomo: Ok.03:40
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slomocyberix: hum, isn't that easy... needs some other new depends... but don't worry, it'll be done03:42
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slomolamont: ping?03:43
lamontsi?03:44
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slomolamont: can you remove banshee (for amd64) and galago-sharp (for all) from dep-wait? banshee was removed too early last time it seems... new version wasn't in the archives yet :/03:45
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lamontand goes to remove dep-waits in the meanwhile03:45
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slomolamont: thanks... and sorry for the inconveniences03:49
hubso the new libgdiplus fix my bug03:54
slomohub: which bug?03:55
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hubslomo: autopano-sift that crashed in libgdiplus03:57
hubslomo: I don't know why, but the 1.1.9 version in dapper works03:57
hubslomo: I'll depend on it03:57
hubslomo: it crash with 1.1.7, and used to work03:58
hubslomo: one more package for multiverse03:59
hubbecause it is "patent encumbered"03:59
slomohub: what does it do?04:00
slomohub: and libgdiplus 1.1.9 changed many many many bugs actually ;)04:00
slomoanyway... need to leave now ;) see you later04:01
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zakamehmmm, i might be asking a stupid question, but if a source file does not have any explicit license statement, can upstream assume it to be in the public domain?04:09
Amaranthno04:10
Amaranthif it doesn't state a license then normal copyright laws apply04:10
zakameI see...04:10
hubAmaranth: public domain does not exist in some countries where copyright is implicit04:11
zakamelibmemcache's src/crc32_table.h included this statement:04:11
zakame * Garrett <srg@quick.com> and was cleaned from the PostgreSQL source04:11
zakame * tree via the files contrib/ltree/crc32.[ch] .  No license was04:11
zakame * included, therefore it is assumed that this code is public04:11
zakame * domain.  Attribution still noted. */04:11
zakamewhat's everyone's take on this?04:12
Amaranthhub: Not quite sure what you mean. Are you agreeing with me?04:12
hubAmaranth: in France copyright is implicit for example04:13
hubAmaranth: that means the lack of statement is really restricitive04:13
Amaranthhub: I thought some UN agreement made it implicit basically everywhere04:13
hubyep, but in they US04:13
hubs/they/the/04:13
Amaranth?04:14
hubremember the US extend copyright duration on a regular basis, due to lobbying by Disney04:14
Amaranthnote to self: never use any code not written by Amaranth without a lawyer04:14
hubbecause of the Mickey franchise that brings Million every year04:14
hubAmaranth: a license file like GPL is explicit copyright statement04:15
Amaranthhub: sonny bono copyright extension act of 199804:15
hubread "Free Culture" about that04:15
Amaranthok, back to the original point...04:15
hubyep04:16
zakameyeah...04:16
AmaranthIn most countries worldwide copyright is implicit so if nothing else is stated regular copyright laws apply, correct?04:16
Amaranthiow, you can't assume public domain04:16
zakameok... if this is so, then it's not safe to package libmemcache?04:19
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zakamewb ogra04:46
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zakamewb magnon04:57
magnonthanks04:58
hubhey magnon, ogra04:58
magnonfinally home04:58
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mitsuhikoogra: ping05:37
ogramitsuhiko, pong05:39
bradbdudes05:45
bradbSearching on source package name should be working now. Try it out and tell me what you think.05:45
ograbradb, wassup ?05:45
ogracool05:45
ogra!05:45
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seb128hi06:32
seb128who is doing this wiki pages about absolute icon paths for desktop files?06:32
ograhey seb12806:32
ograseb128, Burgundavia did that once, i'm not sure if soemone actively maintains it... i know bddebian worked on the .desktop files06:33
seb128k, because that's not the way to go06:33
ograwipe it ?06:34
seb128and somebody is flooding malone with bugs/patches06:34
seb128"flooding"06:34
ograodd06:34
seb128why?06:35
ograare the patches right ?06:35
ograyou sounded like they were wrong06:35
seb128yeah06:35
ograah, ok, -odd then :)06:35
seb128but that's like all the desktop files have 3-4 issues according to the validator06:35
seb128and the patches fix one06:35
ograwhere is dholbach ?06:35
seb128in his room06:36
ograerm.... he should have checked out before 12 ...06:36
seb12812 is the hour to check out here?06:36
ograseems like06:36
seb128I don't really care, pitti stays so we keep the room06:37
seb128I'll check you later06:37
ograat least thats what i've been told06:37
seb128s/you/out/06:37
ograyup06:37
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ograbut mvo and dholbach dont06:37
seb128(12:36:39) dholbach: we need to check out06:37
seb128(12:36:44) dholbach: we're checkiong out atm06:37
ograah06:37
magnonogra: upload pictures!06:38
ogramagnon, from home....06:38
magnonok:p06:38
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hungeronly now that I am trying to build my own little set of debs I can fully appreciate what you guys have been doing for me for the last couple of years! THANKS!06:41
hungerDoes it get easier with time and practice?06:42
magnondefinately06:43
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siretarthey magnon!06:48
siretartmagnon: how was your flight to norway?06:48
magnonawful06:48
magnonthey wanted money for water, food and coffee06:48
siretartwtf?!06:49
siretartthese bastards!06:49
magnonyes06:50
magnonSAS sucks06:50
magnon3 for a coffee06:50
magnonsame for half liter of water06:50
hungerI keep running into "dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends}". Any idea how to fix those?06:58
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at1asDoes anyone know anything about the Transcode and xvid packages for breezy?07:00
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at1asDoes anyone know anything about the Transcode and xvid packages for breezy?07:04
at1asI keep getting errors when trying to import xvid-encoded video.07:04
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pefbye !07:37
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slomoKyral: how's your package? ;)07:47
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LaserJockslomo: which package are you talking about?07:50
slomoLaserJock: gnome-rdp or how it was called ;)07:51
LaserJockslomo: oh, don't know about that one. He has got one in REVU that I am pretty excited about07:51
slomowhich one?07:51
LaserJockFlowDesigner07:52
LaserJockIt is a part of the MOUTUScience team I put together. The authors were pretty excited at the possibility of get .debs made for it07:52
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slomoah that one :) i'll take a look at it tomorrow in my free period07:54
LaserJockslomo: that would be great. the one thing that I think needs to be included is a .desktop file07:55
slomomake one ;)07:56
LaserJockI think he will. I guess he wanted feedback on the main part of the package first07:56
LaserJockIs there a difference between using DESTDIR and PREFIX in a Makefile?08:03
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magnonsiretart: ping08:11
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at1as08:26
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hervehello08:47
crimsunhi08:48
siretartmagnon: pong08:51
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=== Kyral stabs GNOME-RDP
slomoKyral: hehe09:00
KyralI can't understand this09:01
Kyralits looking for some DLL09:01
Kyralbut I did a lookup for it, and its already being pulled in by a depend09:01
slomowhich?09:01
slomoand how?09:01
slomopaste the buildlog somewhere ;)09:01
slomo(not here!)09:02
KyralI was about to do that ;P09:02
Kyrallemme make a new one09:02
KyralI was futzing with it ALOT09:02
magnonsiretart: never mind, just gajim stuff. but it spammed me with 136 windows when I added the msn transport :p09:02
siretartmagnon: yeah ;)09:02
slomomagnon: hehe, i had the same problem when adding the icq transport ;)09:03
siretartsame here09:03
magnonI went back to gaim though :P09:04
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Kyralslomo, lemme sort through my mail and I'll upload that buildlog someplace09:05
slomook09:05
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zulhey09:07
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Kyralslomo, http://people.clarkson.edu/~petermcv/gnome-rdp_0.1.3-0ubuntu1.buildlog09:18
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herveyo daniel!09:33
dholbachneed to run... get back to germany ;)09:34
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dholbachsee you :)09:34
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Kyralthis is farkin' stupid09:37
KyralWTF is up with the lag on my school net09:37
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zul_how do you get ubuntu netmask hiding09:41
Kyralslomo, you have any idea what is wrong?09:41
zul_er from freenode09:41
Kyralzul_, I think you need to be an Ubuntu Member first09:41
zul_Kyral: i am09:42
slomoKyral: i'll take a look later09:42
Kyraloops09:42
Kyralsorry :P09:42
KyralThen I think you need to talk to Seveas09:42
hervehas the procedure for forcing sync of a debian package over the old ubuntu one changed?09:42
LaserJockanybody know what  "dpkg-source: unrepresentable changes to source" means when doing debuild ?09:43
herveLaserJock, you or some script changed or generated a binary file09:43
herveand debian is trying to diff it09:43
LaserJockherve: thanks09:44
slomoKyral: give me the url to the tarball again please ;)09:45
Kyraltheir tarball?09:45
slomoyes09:46
Kyralhttp://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=110109:46
Kyralat the bottom09:46
KyralI wish I could just convert that Gentoo EBuild into a debpack....09:46
slomoi hate anti-leech scripts09:48
slomoif test ! -e `pkg-config --variable=prefix mono`/lib/mono/1.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll; then echo false; else echo true; fi09:50
slomowhat does this do for you?09:50
slomoKyral09:50
KyralI can't test it09:51
slomowhy?09:51
Kyraldon't have the packages installed ;P09:51
KyralI build the packages in my PBuilders ;P09:51
slomoapt-get install mono09:52
slomoplease09:52
slomoyou need it anyway to run it later09:52
Kyralwait...I'm running Beagle09:52
slomothen you have it09:52
Kyralmaybe I don't have pkg-config installed09:52
Kyralwtf mate?09:53
KyralI didn't have mono installed09:53
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Kyralwait...mono is a metapack09:53
slomoyes09:53
slomoyou need mono-classlib-1.009:53
slomofor my test abov09:53
slomoand beagle needs that too09:53
Kyralstill giving me false09:54
KyralBlasted configure script is looking in the wrong place09:54
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slomoit isn't09:54
slomoif test ! -e `pkg-config --variable=prefix mono`/lib/mono/1.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll; then echo false; else echo true; fi09:54
slomodoes this tell you true?09:54
ubuntuHi all09:55
Kyralno09:55
ubuntuthere is a good bridging tool some ware in the repos09:55
KyralWait, do I need to run that with root?09:55
ubuntui  have forgoten the name09:55
slomoKyral: no09:56
ubuntuyou add like br0 to /etc/network/interfaces once you install it09:56
ubuntuany one know the name of it?09:56
slomoKyral: dpkg -L mono-classlib-1.0 | grep SqliteClient09:56
Kyralhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/419009:57
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slomoKyral: your system seems to be broken ;)09:58
Kyralwhy?09:58
slomoKyral: echo `pkg-config --variable=prefix mono`/lib/mono/1.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll09:58
slomoKyral: what does it tell you?09:58
Kyrallook in the Debian and Ubuntu repos for that09:58
Kyralits where they are supposed to go09:59
Kyral/lib/mono/1.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll09:59
slomoah09:59
slomorofl09:59
slomoadd build-depend on libmono-dev09:59
Kyral??09:59
slomothat's the package containing the pc file09:59
Kyralyou mean build depend indep ;P10:00
slomoanyway10:00
Kyralhmm10:00
KyralI'm gonna have it depend on openssh-client, rdesktop, and tightvnc10:01
Kyralsince it supports those things10:01
Kyralit depends on GNOME-Terminal...10:03
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Kyralbut what package to make it depend on "tightvnc"10:05
LaserJockKyral: BTW, I got a reply from the FlowDesigner authors. They both run Ubuntu and are pretty eager to get .debs10:07
Kyralthey got built in REVU10:07
LaserJockKyral: They wanted to know if they could change anything to help with the packaging10:07
KyralI dunno what the Lintain output means though10:07
KyralLaserJock, lemme finish Gnome-RDP first, then can we talk :P10:08
LaserJockKyral: np10:08
Kyralwhat provides GConf-sharp?10:13
slomolibgconf2.0-cil10:14
slomoor libgconf-cil10:14
slomodepends on what version you want10:14
Kyral2.010:14
Kyralconfigure: error: Package requirements (gconf-sharp-2.0 >= 1.9) were not met.10:16
KyralConsider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you10:16
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KyralI am really beginning to hate this package10:18
slomo*sigh*10:19
slomois libgconf2.0-cil in build-depends? and libgtk2.0-cil?10:19
Kyraland yes I do have libgconf2.0-cil in my depends10:19
tsenghi Kyral10:19
Kyralyes10:20
Kyralhi10:20
slomoKyral: both? bah...10:20
Kyralyah10:28
Kyralits pissing me off :P10:28
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hervenight all!11:00
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Valandilja, aber war das nicht nur alle 14 Tage11:32
Valandilhupps, sorry11:32
lfittlShould I remove the win32 dirs from the source when i am creating a cross-platform lib package?11:49
hublfittl: why?11:51
lfittljust asking, maybe to keep the source package small?11:52
hublfittl: space of source package not an issue11:54
hubusually you only rename the tarball to match packaging system11:55
lfittlk, thx11:55
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