[12:15] <lfittl> why were the ggz gaming zone packages removed in dapper?
[12:46] <bmonty> if a package is registering a mime type in its desktop file, do we have to run update-desktop-database in the postinst, or is this handled automatically??
[01:07] <bmonty> anyone know if there is a reason to have to versions of gnat in main and universe?
[01:07] <LaserJock> bmonty: 2 versions?
[01:08] <bmonty> yeah, main has gnat-4.0 and universe has gnat-3.15p1
[01:08] <LaserJock> bmonty: no idea, but that seems weird
[01:09] <bmonty> it makes for some weird dependecy issues (#3326)
[01:28] <crimsun> bmonty: ask elmo to remove gnat-3.15p1 from universe
[01:54] <bmonty> crimsun: I thought about that, but I'm concerned that there might be a reason to have the old version around.
[01:56] <LaserJock> are we going to have a better system for pacakge removal? Or is the current one (ask elmo) OK?
[01:57] <crimsun> it's better to get a better-formed opinion in -devel before asking elmo
[01:58] <crimsun> as long as we don't equate "remove from archive" with "morgue" (cf. kamion's response)
[01:58] <LaserJock> that is what I am confused about
[01:58] <crimsun> there's no reason to be confused
[01:58] <crimsun> don't refer to the morgue at all
[01:59] <crimsun> just ask for a package to be removed from the archive
[01:59] <crimsun> semantically that's what you want anyway
[01:59] <bmonty> why the sensitivity for the word morgue?
[01:59] <LaserJock> OK, that makes sense
[02:00] <crimsun> bmonty: the "morgue" was at one time a place where removed packages were stored in case they were mistakenly removed
[02:00] <crimsun> so we don't want to move packages to the morgue; we want to remove them from the archive
[02:00] <crimsun> just pretend as if you've never heard of morgue
[02:00] <bmonty> crimsun: yeah, I've always refered to getting rid of a package as morguing it
[02:00] <bmonty> ah..got it
[02:42] <hub> my GPG KeyID issue is starting to make some noise in the appropriate places
[02:43] <hub> I reported the bug to GPG and they forwarded it to SKS-devel
[03:08] <bmonty> check out this changelog: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/u/uim/uim_0.4.7-2/changelog
[03:09] <bmonty> version 1:0.4.7-2 and 1:0.4.6beta2-1
[03:09] <bmonty> do you think they are the same security bug? this also applies to Malone #3328
[03:26] <crimsun> bmonty: will look in a bit. Testing transcode fix atm.
[03:26] <bmonty> crimsun: thanks
[03:37] <zakame> morning all
[03:38] <bmonty> hi zakame
[03:40] <zakame> hi bmonty rbelem
[03:44] <crimsun> bmonty: same bug
[03:44] <bmonty> crimsun: so do you think the fix is already in uim?
[03:46] <crimsun> bmonty: it's already in Debian Sid's uim, yes
[03:46] <bmonty> the only thing that made me look twice was the fact that the bug report the lastest changelog references was issued after the earlier version of uim
[03:51] <crimsun> bmonty: 3328's fixable. Do you want to generate a debdiff and send it to universe-security, or shall I?
[03:52] <bmonty> crimsun: I was working on the debdiff for breezy and dapper
[03:52] <bmonty> I just wanted to make sure that I was reading the changelogs correctly
[03:52] <crimsun> bmonty: ok
[03:52] <crimsun> yep, you read them correctly
[03:55] <minghua> we have security support for universe? cool
[03:56] <crimsun> minghua: not officially
[03:56] <bmonty> I think the patch still goes to security-review, right?
[03:56] <crimsun> bmonty: yes
[03:57] <minghua> bmonty: what part of the changelog is not clear?  I am interested in this security issue as well
[03:57] <minghua> bmonty: my understanding is that only mlterm-im-uim is affected in ubuntu
[03:57] <bmonty> minghua: look at the current debian version and then scroll down in the changelog to 1:0.4.6beta2-1
[03:58] <bmonty> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/u/uim/uim_0.4.7-2/changelog
[03:59] <crimsun> bmonty: hmm, I thought you meant between 0.4.7-2 and what Ubuntu has. Harumph. No, those are two different issues with two different CANs.
[04:00] <crimsun> bmonty: however, both issues are resolved in 0.4.7-2
[04:00] <bmonty> crimsun: yes, they look the same in the changelog and the text for the debian bug report is kinda confusing
[04:00] <crimsun> CAN-2005-05-03 is fixed in Ubuntu's Breezy
[04:01] <bmonty> I decided that they were different, but I wanted a second set of eyes :)
[04:02] <minghua> bmonty: I believe they are different, although I didn't look at the code
[04:02] <minghua> I remember reading both security issue announcements from upstream, they should know what they are talking about
[04:09] <minghua> crimsun, bmonty: the original announcement for the bug fixed by 0.4.6beta2-1 in http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/uim/2005-February/001000.html
[04:09] <minghua> a diff was attached
[04:10] <bmonty> minghua: thanks, that is definately a different issue
[04:10] <crimsun> yep, that's where I Xreferenced
[04:11] <minghua> oops, that's not a diff for the source, but for RPM spec :-S
[04:11] <minghua> but I believe they are separate issues (although may be related)
[04:15] <bmonty> looks like I'll make two fixes, one for breezy, and the new version with the ubuntu changes for dapper
[04:21] <minghua> we really should push the change in 1:0.4.7-1ubuntu1 back to debian
[04:21] <minghua> either it's a bug in Debian's uim package, or we are missing some feature compared with debian's version
[04:24] <bmonty> minghua: there is no FTBFS bug against the debian package and they still have the build-dep ivoks removed
[04:26] <minghua> bmonty: there won't be any FTBFS for debian - debian has the pm-dev package
[04:26] <minghua> bmonty: it's probably an optional feature
[04:26] <bmonty> minghua: i know
[04:27] <minghua> and if no pm-dev is present, the configure will just silently drop the featuer
[04:27] <minghua> in that case it's still a bug in debian's package
[04:27] <minghua> it should enable that feature explicitly
[04:28] <minghua> I'm just saying we should ask the debian maintanier
[04:28] <bmonty> well if they will take the change it makes our fix a simple sync
[04:28] <minghua> I'll do it next week if no one beats me
[04:29] <bmonty> i'll ask ivoks when i see him
[04:43] <chillywilly> hmmm, you guys have an ancient version of lilypond :(
[04:48] <LaserJock> chillywilly: I assume that will get fixed in the Debian sid sync
[04:49] <bmonty> minghua: pm-dev = proxy manager protocol?
[04:50] <minghua> bmonty: yes, according to the debian package description
[04:50] <minghua> bmonty: it looks useless to me
[04:51] <minghua> but I didn't dig further
[04:52] <bmonty> i've been looking through the source from the debian package, and I can't find a reference to it
[04:55] <chillywilly> LaserJock: I suppose I can just build the package from sid for now :)
[05:04] <minghua> chillywilly: maybe not.  See http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/l/lilypond/2.6.3-9/
[05:04] <minghua> chillywilly: and see if you can find the problem and help
[05:10] <chillywilly> minghua: that's all greek to me
[05:11] <chillywilly> looks like bad depends
[05:11] <LaserJock> chillywilly: I think this is the prob:
[05:11] <LaserJock> After installing, the following source dependencies are still unsatisfied:
[05:11] <LaserJock> mftrace(inst 1.1.12-1ubuntu2 ! >= wanted 1.1.17-1)
[05:11] <LaserJock> Source-dependencies not satisfied; skipping lilypond
[05:11] <bmonty> minghua: I emailed the debian uim maintainer about removing that build dep...you want to know what he says?
[05:11] <minghua> someone need to merge mftrace then, it seems :-)
[05:12] <minghua> bmonty: sure, cc me please, thanks
[05:12] <bmonty> minghua: email?
[05:12] <minghua> oops... minghua@rice.edu, sorry :-P
[05:12] <bmonty> :)
[05:13] <LaserJock> ok, I am confused about merging. Is everything being merge manually right now or is automatic merging taking place?
[05:14] <chillywilly> all I wanted to do was work up some lead sheets for some tunes but I guess that won't happen tonight :(
[05:14] <chillywilly> unless I just want to do plain old boring ASCII ;)
[05:14] <LaserJock> chillywilly: aren't there other music typesetting progs out there
[05:15] <bmonty> according to this month's LinuxJournal, lilypond is the best there is
[05:15] <chillywilly> lilypond is the shiznit
[05:15] <LaserJock> well, "available" might be better than "best" at this point ;-)
[05:19] <bmonty> LaserJock: heh
[05:39] <bmonty> night everyone
[06:07] <Kyral> Okay....yah
[06:07] <Kyral> threw out my back
[06:11] <LaserJock> Kyral: I'm going to wait to email the FlowDesigner devs until your package has been reviewed. We don't want to get them excited until we really have something. I have already sent our intentions to their -devel mailing list
[06:11] <LaserJock> I think that should be good for now
[06:15] <Kyral> kk
[06:21] <Kyral> g'night
[06:22] <LaserJock> cya
[07:16] <zakame> hi all
[08:05] <zakame> afternoon
[08:08] <schweeb> zakame: heh, there's probably only going ot be a few people ever up at this hour
[08:08] <schweeb> it's late for the US, ad it's early for europe
[08:09] <bhuvan> and noon in india -:)
[08:09] <zakame> schweeb: hihi, I reckon most are going back home, if not just arriving home already, from ubz :)
[08:10] <schweeb> bhuvan: not sure how big of an Indian following we have, but I'm sure there's not enough who want to be MOTU to keep this channel busy :P
[08:11] <bhuvan> schweeb, true
[08:12] <zakame> it will probably be very busy in a couple of days or so... :/
[08:17] <crimsun> we don't have very long to finish these merges
[08:17] <zakame> indeed
[08:17] <schweeb> argh
[08:17] <schweeb> anyone ever dealt with IBM or Lenovo US support?
[08:18] <schweeb> need to replace my keyboard, and I can't find my warranty info... and the frigging support hotline keeps disconnecting me
[08:51] <zakame> wb pef
[08:52] <siretart> greetings from magnon and me from airport frankurt!
[08:53] <zakame> siretart: glad you're there! :)
[09:48] <Tonio_> morning
[12:00] <magnon> howdy
[12:49] <siretart> hi from nbg
[01:11] <linux_Coder> I want to participate in Ubuntu development
[01:11] <linux_Coder> I am information security engineer and a coder
[01:12] <linux_Coder> I only want to contribute in Ubuntu coding
[01:12] <lucas> which parts ?
[01:12] <linux_Coder> what do u mean ?
[01:12] <lucas> most software in ubuntu just comes from upstream
[01:12] <linux_Coder> ok
[01:12] <lucas> "ubuntu coding" often means "upstream software coding"
[01:13] <lucas> for example, the desktop is gnome. see http://www.gnome.org/
[01:13] <linux_Coder> what's the work to do, if i want to contribute for ubuntu coding ?
[01:15] <lucas> it depends on what you mean by "ubuntu coding"
[01:15] <lucas> which part of ubuntu are you interested in coding ?
[01:15] <linux_Coder> actually, I am new to ubuntu
[01:16] <linux_Coder> infact, I have ordered for Ubuntu thru shipit
[01:16] <linux_Coder> but I am into linux for 3 years
[01:16] <linux_Coder> and coding in C & C++ for more than 5 years
[01:16] <linux_Coder> intrested in System side programming ..
[01:16] <lucas> get familiar with the ubuntu wiki, the bugzilla, etc
[01:16] <linux_Coder> and love Open Source stuffs.. would like to join Ubuntu community.
[01:17] <lucas> the easiest way to do that is just to find an interesting bug, fix it, and provide a patch
[01:17] <linux_Coder> hmm..ok
[01:18] <linux_Coder> lucas: thank you
[01:18] <lucas> np
[01:18] <linux_Coder> lucas: you are really helpful
[01:22] <linux_Coder> lucas: I have one more query :)
[01:23] <linux_Coder> I want to search only for bugs related to codes.. not others ..
[01:24] <lucas> you should search for bugs in software you are interested in hacking
[01:24] <lucas> it's easier
[01:26] <linux_Coder> ok
[01:26] <linux_Coder> lucas: thank u
[01:26] <linux_Coder> bye all
[03:31] <cyberix> Can I vote somewhere for GNUnet 0.7 getting dappered? :-)
[03:32] <slomo> maybe... is it already in debian? ;)
[03:32] <cyberix> Yes
[03:32] <slomo> then it's no problem... i'll take care of it
[03:33] <cyberix> slomo: Great.
[03:33] <cyberix> slomo: I must warn you, that it is very different from 0.6-series
[03:34] <slomo> np... debian already has a 0.7 package so the 0.6->0.7 conversion is not my problem anymore
[03:34] <cyberix> Ok
[03:35] <cyberix> slomo: Are you going to get it to launchpad too, or will I have to ask somewhere else for that?
[03:35] <cyberix> slomo: I'd like to work on Finnish translation once it is in launchpad.
[03:36] <slomo> no... just create the package/product yourself there
[03:38] <slomo> and gnunet-gtk will be updated too
[03:40] <zakame> hello all
[03:40] <cyberix> slomo: Ok.
[03:42] <slomo> cyberix: hum, isn't that easy... needs some other new depends... but don't worry, it'll be done
[03:43] <slomo> lamont: ping?
[03:44] <lamont> si?
[03:45] <slomo> lamont: can you remove banshee (for amd64) and galago-sharp (for all) from dep-wait? banshee was removed too early last time it seems... new version wasn't in the archives yet :/
[03:45] <lamont> and goes to remove dep-waits in the meanwhile
[03:49] <slomo> lamont: thanks... and sorry for the inconveniences
[03:54] <hub> so the new libgdiplus fix my bug
[03:55] <slomo> hub: which bug?
[03:57] <hub> slomo: autopano-sift that crashed in libgdiplus
[03:57] <hub> slomo: I don't know why, but the 1.1.9 version in dapper works
[03:57] <hub> slomo: I'll depend on it
[03:58] <hub> slomo: it crash with 1.1.7, and used to work
[03:59] <hub> slomo: one more package for multiverse
[03:59] <hub> because it is "patent encumbered"
[04:00] <slomo> hub: what does it do?
[04:00] <slomo> hub: and libgdiplus 1.1.9 changed many many many bugs actually ;)
[04:01] <slomo> anyway... need to leave now ;) see you later
[04:09] <zakame> hmmm, i might be asking a stupid question, but if a source file does not have any explicit license statement, can upstream assume it to be in the public domain?
[04:10] <Amaranth> no
[04:10] <Amaranth> if it doesn't state a license then normal copyright laws apply
[04:10] <zakame> I see...
[04:11] <hub> Amaranth: public domain does not exist in some countries where copyright is implicit
[04:11] <zakame> libmemcache's src/crc32_table.h included this statement:
[04:11] <zakame>  * Garrett <srg@quick.com> and was cleaned from the PostgreSQL source
[04:11] <zakame>  * tree via the files contrib/ltree/crc32.[ch] .  No license was
[04:11] <zakame>  * included, therefore it is assumed that this code is public
[04:11] <zakame>  * domain.  Attribution still noted. */
[04:12] <zakame> what's everyone's take on this?
[04:12] <Amaranth> hub: Not quite sure what you mean. Are you agreeing with me?
[04:13] <hub> Amaranth: in France copyright is implicit for example
[04:13] <hub> Amaranth: that means the lack of statement is really restricitive
[04:13] <Amaranth> hub: I thought some UN agreement made it implicit basically everywhere
[04:13] <hub> yep, but in they US
[04:13] <hub> s/they/the/
[04:14] <Amaranth> ?
[04:14] <hub> remember the US extend copyright duration on a regular basis, due to lobbying by Disney
[04:14] <Amaranth> note to self: never use any code not written by Amaranth without a lawyer
[04:14] <hub> because of the Mickey franchise that brings Million every year
[04:15] <hub> Amaranth: a license file like GPL is explicit copyright statement
[04:15] <Amaranth> hub: sonny bono copyright extension act of 1998
[04:15] <hub> read "Free Culture" about that
[04:15] <Amaranth> ok, back to the original point...
[04:16] <hub> yep
[04:16] <zakame> yeah...
[04:16] <Amaranth> In most countries worldwide copyright is implicit so if nothing else is stated regular copyright laws apply, correct?
[04:16] <Amaranth> iow, you can't assume public domain
[04:19] <zakame> ok... if this is so, then it's not safe to package libmemcache?
[04:46] <zakame> wb ogra
[04:57] <zakame> wb magnon
[04:58] <magnon> thanks
[04:58] <hub> hey magnon, ogra
[04:58] <magnon> finally home
[05:37] <mitsuhiko> ogra: ping
[05:39] <ogra> mitsuhiko, pong
[05:45] <bradb> dudes
[05:45] <bradb> Searching on source package name should be working now. Try it out and tell me what you think.
[05:45] <ogra> bradb, wassup ?
[05:45] <ogra> cool
[05:45] <ogra> !
[06:32] <seb128> hi
[06:32] <seb128> who is doing this wiki pages about absolute icon paths for desktop files?
[06:32] <ogra> hey seb128
[06:33] <ogra> seb128, Burgundavia did that once, i'm not sure if soemone actively maintains it... i know bddebian worked on the .desktop files
[06:33] <seb128> k, because that's not the way to go
[06:34] <ogra> wipe it ?
[06:34] <seb128> and somebody is flooding malone with bugs/patches
[06:34] <seb128> "flooding"
[06:34] <ogra> odd
[06:35] <seb128> why?
[06:35] <ogra> are the patches right ?
[06:35] <ogra> you sounded like they were wrong
[06:35] <seb128> yeah
[06:35] <ogra> ah, ok, -odd then :)
[06:35] <seb128> but that's like all the desktop files have 3-4 issues according to the validator
[06:35] <seb128> and the patches fix one
[06:35] <ogra> where is dholbach ?
[06:36] <seb128> in his room
[06:36] <ogra> erm.... he should have checked out before 12 ...
[06:36] <seb128> 12 is the hour to check out here?
[06:36] <ogra> seems like
[06:37] <seb128> I don't really care, pitti stays so we keep the room
[06:37] <seb128> I'll check you later
[06:37] <ogra> at least thats what i've been told
[06:37] <seb128> s/you/out/
[06:37] <ogra> yup
[06:37] <ogra> but mvo and dholbach dont
[06:37] <seb128> (12:36:39) dholbach: we need to check out
[06:37] <seb128> (12:36:44) dholbach: we're checkiong out atm
[06:37] <ogra> ah
[06:38] <magnon> ogra: upload pictures!
[06:38] <ogra> magnon, from home....
[06:38] <magnon> ok:p
[06:41] <hunger> only now that I am trying to build my own little set of debs I can fully appreciate what you guys have been doing for me for the last couple of years! THANKS!
[06:42] <hunger> Does it get easier with time and practice?
[06:43] <magnon> definately
[06:48] <siretart> hey magnon!
[06:48] <siretart> magnon: how was your flight to norway?
[06:48] <magnon> awful
[06:48] <magnon> they wanted money for water, food and coffee
[06:49] <siretart> wtf?!
[06:49] <siretart> these bastards!
[06:50] <magnon> yes
[06:50] <magnon> SAS sucks
[06:50] <magnon> 3 for a coffee
[06:50] <magnon> same for half liter of water
[06:58] <hunger> I keep running into "dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends}". Any idea how to fix those?
[07:00] <at1as> Does anyone know anything about the Transcode and xvid packages for breezy?
[07:04] <at1as> Does anyone know anything about the Transcode and xvid packages for breezy?
[07:04] <at1as> I keep getting errors when trying to import xvid-encoded video.
[07:37] <pef> bye !
[07:47] <slomo> Kyral: how's your package? ;)
[07:48] <at1as> 
[07:50] <LaserJock> slomo: which package are you talking about?
[07:51] <slomo> LaserJock: gnome-rdp or how it was called ;)
[07:51] <LaserJock> slomo: oh, don't know about that one. He has got one in REVU that I am pretty excited about
[07:51] <slomo> which one?
[07:52] <LaserJock> FlowDesigner
[07:52] <LaserJock> It is a part of the MOUTUScience team I put together. The authors were pretty excited at the possibility of get .debs made for it
[07:54] <slomo> ah that one :) i'll take a look at it tomorrow in my free period
[07:55] <LaserJock> slomo: that would be great. the one thing that I think needs to be included is a .desktop file
[07:56] <slomo> make one ;)
[07:56] <LaserJock> I think he will. I guess he wanted feedback on the main part of the package first
[08:03] <LaserJock> Is there a difference between using DESTDIR and PREFIX in a Makefile?
[08:11] <magnon> siretart: ping
[08:26] <at1as> 
[08:33] <at1as> 
[08:47] <herve> hello
[08:48] <crimsun> hi
[08:51] <siretart> magnon: pong
[09:00] <slomo> Kyral: hehe
[09:01] <Kyral> I can't understand this
[09:01] <Kyral> its looking for some DLL
[09:01] <Kyral> but I did a lookup for it, and its already being pulled in by a depend
[09:01] <slomo> which?
[09:01] <slomo> and how?
[09:01] <slomo> paste the buildlog somewhere ;)
[09:02] <slomo> (not here!)
[09:02] <Kyral> I was about to do that ;P
[09:02] <Kyral> lemme make a new one
[09:02] <Kyral> I was futzing with it ALOT
[09:02] <magnon> siretart: never mind, just gajim stuff. but it spammed me with 136 windows when I added the msn transport :p
[09:02] <siretart> magnon: yeah ;)
[09:03] <slomo> magnon: hehe, i had the same problem when adding the icq transport ;)
[09:03] <siretart> same here
[09:04] <magnon> I went back to gaim though :P
[09:05] <Kyral> slomo, lemme sort through my mail and I'll upload that buildlog someplace
[09:05] <slomo> ok
[09:07] <zul> hey
[09:18] <Kyral> slomo, http://people.clarkson.edu/~petermcv/gnome-rdp_0.1.3-0ubuntu1.buildlog
[09:33] <herve> yo daniel!
[09:34] <dholbach> need to run... get back to germany ;)
[09:34] <dholbach> see you :)
[09:37] <Kyral> this is farkin' stupid
[09:37] <Kyral> WTF is up with the lag on my school net
[09:41] <zul_> how do you get ubuntu netmask hiding
[09:41] <Kyral> slomo, you have any idea what is wrong?
[09:41] <zul_> er from freenode
[09:41] <Kyral> zul_, I think you need to be an Ubuntu Member first
[09:42] <zul_> Kyral: i am
[09:42] <slomo> Kyral: i'll take a look later
[09:42] <Kyral> oops
[09:42] <Kyral> sorry :P
[09:42] <Kyral> Then I think you need to talk to Seveas
[09:42] <herve> has the procedure for forcing sync of a debian package over the old ubuntu one changed?
[09:43] <LaserJock> anybody know what  "dpkg-source: unrepresentable changes to source" means when doing debuild ?
[09:43] <herve> LaserJock, you or some script changed or generated a binary file
[09:43] <herve> and debian is trying to diff it
[09:44] <LaserJock> herve: thanks
[09:45] <slomo> Kyral: give me the url to the tarball again please ;)
[09:45] <Kyral> their tarball?
[09:46] <slomo> yes
[09:46] <Kyral> http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1101
[09:46] <Kyral> at the bottom
[09:46] <Kyral> I wish I could just convert that Gentoo EBuild into a debpack....
[09:48] <slomo> i hate anti-leech scripts
[09:50] <slomo> if test ! -e `pkg-config --variable=prefix mono`/lib/mono/1.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll; then echo false; else echo true; fi
[09:50] <slomo> what does this do for you?
[09:50] <slomo> Kyral
[09:51] <Kyral> I can't test it
[09:51] <slomo> why?
[09:51] <Kyral> don't have the packages installed ;P
[09:51] <Kyral> I build the packages in my PBuilders ;P
[09:52] <slomo> apt-get install mono
[09:52] <slomo> please
[09:52] <slomo> you need it anyway to run it later
[09:52] <Kyral> wait...I'm running Beagle
[09:52] <slomo> then you have it
[09:52] <Kyral> maybe I don't have pkg-config installed
[09:53] <Kyral> wtf mate?
[09:53] <Kyral> I didn't have mono installed
[09:53] <Kyral> wait...mono is a metapack
[09:53] <slomo> yes
[09:53] <slomo> you need mono-classlib-1.0
[09:53] <slomo> for my test abov
[09:53] <slomo> and beagle needs that too
[09:54] <Kyral> still giving me false
[09:54] <Kyral> Blasted configure script is looking in the wrong place
[09:54] <slomo> it isn't
[09:54] <slomo> if test ! -e `pkg-config --variable=prefix mono`/lib/mono/1.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll; then echo false; else echo true; fi
[09:54] <slomo> does this tell you true?
[09:55] <ubuntu> Hi all
[09:55] <Kyral> no
[09:55] <ubuntu> there is a good bridging tool some ware in the repos
[09:55] <Kyral> Wait, do I need to run that with root?
[09:55] <ubuntu> i  have forgoten the name
[09:56] <slomo> Kyral: no
[09:56] <ubuntu> you add like br0 to /etc/network/interfaces once you install it
[09:56] <ubuntu> any one know the name of it?
[09:56] <slomo> Kyral: dpkg -L mono-classlib-1.0 | grep SqliteClient
[09:57] <Kyral> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4190
[09:58] <slomo> Kyral: your system seems to be broken ;)
[09:58] <Kyral> why?
[09:58] <slomo> Kyral: echo `pkg-config --variable=prefix mono`/lib/mono/1.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll
[09:58] <slomo> Kyral: what does it tell you?
[09:58] <Kyral> look in the Debian and Ubuntu repos for that
[09:59] <Kyral> its where they are supposed to go
[09:59] <Kyral> /lib/mono/1.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll
[09:59] <slomo> ah
[09:59] <slomo> rofl
[09:59] <slomo> add build-depend on libmono-dev
[09:59] <Kyral> ??
[09:59] <slomo> that's the package containing the pc file
[10:00] <Kyral> you mean build depend indep ;P
[10:00] <slomo> anyway
[10:00] <Kyral> hmm
[10:01] <Kyral> I'm gonna have it depend on openssh-client, rdesktop, and tightvnc
[10:01] <Kyral> since it supports those things
[10:03] <Kyral> it depends on GNOME-Terminal...
[10:05] <Kyral> but what package to make it depend on "tightvnc"
[10:07] <LaserJock> Kyral: BTW, I got a reply from the FlowDesigner authors. They both run Ubuntu and are pretty eager to get .debs
[10:07] <Kyral> they got built in REVU
[10:07] <LaserJock> Kyral: They wanted to know if they could change anything to help with the packaging
[10:07] <Kyral> I dunno what the Lintain output means though
[10:08] <Kyral> LaserJock, lemme finish Gnome-RDP first, then can we talk :P
[10:08] <LaserJock> Kyral: np
[10:13] <Kyral> what provides GConf-sharp?
[10:14] <slomo> libgconf2.0-cil
[10:14] <slomo> or libgconf-cil
[10:14] <slomo> depends on what version you want
[10:14] <Kyral> 2.0
[10:16] <Kyral> configure: error: Package requirements (gconf-sharp-2.0 >= 1.9) were not met.
[10:16] <Kyral> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[10:18] <Kyral> I am really beginning to hate this package
[10:19] <slomo> *sigh*
[10:19] <slomo> is libgconf2.0-cil in build-depends? and libgtk2.0-cil?
[10:19] <Kyral> and yes I do have libgconf2.0-cil in my depends
[10:19] <tseng> hi Kyral
[10:20] <Kyral> yes
[10:20] <Kyral> hi
[10:20] <slomo> Kyral: both? bah...
[10:28] <Kyral> yah
[10:28] <Kyral> its pissing me off :P
[11:00] <herve> night all!
[11:32] <Valandil> ja, aber war das nicht nur alle 14 Tage
[11:32] <Valandil> hupps, sorry
[11:49] <lfittl> Should I remove the win32 dirs from the source when i am creating a cross-platform lib package?
[11:51] <hub> lfittl: why?
[11:52] <lfittl> just asking, maybe to keep the source package small?
[11:54] <hub> lfittl: space of source package not an issue
[11:55] <hub> usually you only rename the tarball to match packaging system
[11:55] <lfittl> k, thx