=== Mithrand1r [n=tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:15] why were the ggz gaming zone packages removed in dapper? === farruinn [n=nathan@cpe-69-201-11-248.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-229-207-169.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _thierry [n=thierry@modemcable192.222-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:46] if a package is registering a mime type in its desktop file, do we have to run update-desktop-database in the postinst, or is this handled automatically?? === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:07] anyone know if there is a reason to have to versions of gnat in main and universe? [01:07] bmonty: 2 versions? [01:08] yeah, main has gnat-4.0 and universe has gnat-3.15p1 [01:08] bmonty: no idea, but that seems weird [01:09] it makes for some weird dependecy issues (#3326) [01:28] bmonty: ask elmo to remove gnat-3.15p1 from universe [01:54] crimsun: I thought about that, but I'm concerned that there might be a reason to have the old version around. [01:56] are we going to have a better system for pacakge removal? Or is the current one (ask elmo) OK? [01:57] it's better to get a better-formed opinion in -devel before asking elmo [01:58] as long as we don't equate "remove from archive" with "morgue" (cf. kamion's response) [01:58] that is what I am confused about [01:58] there's no reason to be confused [01:58] don't refer to the morgue at all [01:59] just ask for a package to be removed from the archive [01:59] semantically that's what you want anyway [01:59] why the sensitivity for the word morgue? [01:59] OK, that makes sense [02:00] bmonty: the "morgue" was at one time a place where removed packages were stored in case they were mistakenly removed [02:00] so we don't want to move packages to the morgue; we want to remove them from the archive [02:00] just pretend as if you've never heard of morgue [02:00] crimsun: yeah, I've always refered to getting rid of a package as morguing it [02:00] ah..got it === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.7.130.247] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shawarma [n=sh@3E6B503C.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] my GPG KeyID issue is starting to make some noise in the appropriate places [02:43] I reported the bug to GPG and they forwarded it to SKS-devel === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487F8A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:08] check out this changelog: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/u/uim/uim_0.4.7-2/changelog [03:09] version 1:0.4.7-2 and 1:0.4.6beta2-1 [03:09] do you think they are the same security bug? this also applies to Malone #3328 === minghua [n=minghua@adsl-69-153-128-173.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:26] bmonty: will look in a bit. Testing transcode fix atm. [03:26] crimsun: thanks === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:37] morning all [03:38] hi zakame === rbelem [n=rodrigo@ubuntu/member/rbelem] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] hi bmonty rbelem [03:44] bmonty: same bug [03:44] crimsun: so do you think the fix is already in uim? [03:46] bmonty: it's already in Debian Sid's uim, yes [03:46] the only thing that made me look twice was the fact that the bug report the lastest changelog references was issued after the earlier version of uim === tsume [n=tsume@zanshin.tsumelabs.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-170-250.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:51] bmonty: 3328's fixable. Do you want to generate a debdiff and send it to universe-security, or shall I? [03:52] crimsun: I was working on the debdiff for breezy and dapper [03:52] I just wanted to make sure that I was reading the changelogs correctly [03:52] bmonty: ok [03:52] yep, you read them correctly [03:55] we have security support for universe? cool [03:56] minghua: not officially [03:56] I think the patch still goes to security-review, right? [03:56] bmonty: yes [03:57] bmonty: what part of the changelog is not clear? I am interested in this security issue as well [03:57] bmonty: my understanding is that only mlterm-im-uim is affected in ubuntu [03:57] minghua: look at the current debian version and then scroll down in the changelog to 1:0.4.6beta2-1 [03:58] http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/u/uim/uim_0.4.7-2/changelog [03:59] bmonty: hmm, I thought you meant between 0.4.7-2 and what Ubuntu has. Harumph. No, those are two different issues with two different CANs. [04:00] bmonty: however, both issues are resolved in 0.4.7-2 [04:00] crimsun: yes, they look the same in the changelog and the text for the debian bug report is kinda confusing === farruinn [n=nathan@cpe-69-201-11-248.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] CAN-2005-05-03 is fixed in Ubuntu's Breezy [04:01] I decided that they were different, but I wanted a second set of eyes :) [04:02] bmonty: I believe they are different, although I didn't look at the code [04:02] I remember reading both security issue announcements from upstream, they should know what they are talking about [04:09] crimsun, bmonty: the original announcement for the bug fixed by 0.4.6beta2-1 in http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/uim/2005-February/001000.html [04:09] a diff was attached [04:10] minghua: thanks, that is definately a different issue [04:10] yep, that's where I Xreferenced [04:11] oops, that's not a diff for the source, but for RPM spec :-S [04:11] but I believe they are separate issues (although may be related) [04:15] looks like I'll make two fixes, one for breezy, and the new version with the ubuntu changes for dapper [04:21] we really should push the change in 1:0.4.7-1ubuntu1 back to debian [04:21] either it's a bug in Debian's uim package, or we are missing some feature compared with debian's version [04:24] minghua: there is no FTBFS bug against the debian package and they still have the build-dep ivoks removed [04:26] bmonty: there won't be any FTBFS for debian - debian has the pm-dev package [04:26] bmonty: it's probably an optional feature [04:26] minghua: i know [04:27] and if no pm-dev is present, the configure will just silently drop the featuer [04:27] in that case it's still a bug in debian's package [04:27] it should enable that feature explicitly [04:28] I'm just saying we should ask the debian maintanier [04:28] well if they will take the change it makes our fix a simple sync [04:28] I'll do it next week if no one beats me [04:29] i'll ask ivoks when i see him [04:43] hmmm, you guys have an ancient version of lilypond :( === shawarma [n=sh@3E6B503C.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] chillywilly: I assume that will get fixed in the Debian sid sync [04:49] minghua: pm-dev = proxy manager protocol? [04:50] bmonty: yes, according to the debian package description [04:50] bmonty: it looks useless to me [04:51] but I didn't dig further [04:52] i've been looking through the source from the debian package, and I can't find a reference to it [04:55] LaserJock: I suppose I can just build the package from sid for now :) [05:04] chillywilly: maybe not. See http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/l/lilypond/2.6.3-9/ [05:04] chillywilly: and see if you can find the problem and help [05:10] minghua: that's all greek to me [05:11] looks like bad depends [05:11] chillywilly: I think this is the prob: [05:11] After installing, the following source dependencies are still unsatisfied: [05:11] mftrace(inst 1.1.12-1ubuntu2 ! >= wanted 1.1.17-1) [05:11] Source-dependencies not satisfied; skipping lilypond [05:11] minghua: I emailed the debian uim maintainer about removing that build dep...you want to know what he says? [05:11] someone need to merge mftrace then, it seems :-) [05:12] bmonty: sure, cc me please, thanks [05:12] minghua: email? [05:12] oops... minghua@rice.edu, sorry :-P [05:12] :) [05:13] ok, I am confused about merging. Is everything being merge manually right now or is automatic merging taking place? [05:14] all I wanted to do was work up some lead sheets for some tunes but I guess that won't happen tonight :( [05:14] unless I just want to do plain old boring ASCII ;) [05:14] chillywilly: aren't there other music typesetting progs out there [05:15] according to this month's LinuxJournal, lilypond is the best there is [05:15] lilypond is the shiznit [05:15] well, "available" might be better than "best" at this point ;-) === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.7.130.247] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === chillywilly checks out the LJ article [05:19] LaserJock: heh === bhuvan [n=ubuntu@b14.gw.maa.collab.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === corey_ [n=corey@S0106001217da6aab.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o bhuvan] by ChanServ [05:39] night everyone [06:07] Okay....yah [06:07] threw out my back [06:11] Kyral: I'm going to wait to email the FlowDesigner devs until your package has been reviewed. We don't want to get them excited until we really have something. I have already sent our intentions to their -devel mailing list [06:11] I think that should be good for now === Arr0gance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-129.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:15] kk [06:21] g'night [06:22] cya === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jimbob_ [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [n=chrys@dslb-084-056-081-211.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=user@210.213.71.137] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:16] hi all === whiprush_ [n=jorge@64.62.190.212] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] afternoon [08:08] zakame: heh, there's probably only going ot be a few people ever up at this hour [08:08] it's late for the US, ad it's early for europe [08:09] and noon in india -:) [08:09] schweeb: hihi, I reckon most are going back home, if not just arriving home already, from ubz :) [08:10] bhuvan: not sure how big of an Indian following we have, but I'm sure there's not enough who want to be MOTU to keep this channel busy :P [08:11] schweeb, true [08:12] it will probably be very busy in a couple of days or so... :/ [08:17] we don't have very long to finish these merges [08:17] indeed [08:17] argh [08:17] anyone ever dealt with IBM or Lenovo US support? [08:18] need to replace my keyboard, and I can't find my warranty info... and the frigging support hotline keeps disconnecting me === Morlark [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Morlark [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:51] wb pef [08:52] greetings from magnon and me from airport frankurt! 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[01:12] what do u mean ? [01:12] most software in ubuntu just comes from upstream [01:12] ok [01:12] "ubuntu coding" often means "upstream software coding" [01:13] for example, the desktop is gnome. see http://www.gnome.org/ [01:13] what's the work to do, if i want to contribute for ubuntu coding ? [01:15] it depends on what you mean by "ubuntu coding" [01:15] which part of ubuntu are you interested in coding ? [01:15] actually, I am new to ubuntu [01:16] infact, I have ordered for Ubuntu thru shipit [01:16] but I am into linux for 3 years [01:16] and coding in C & C++ for more than 5 years [01:16] intrested in System side programming .. [01:16] get familiar with the ubuntu wiki, the bugzilla, etc [01:16] and love Open Source stuffs.. would like to join Ubuntu community. [01:17] the easiest way to do that is just to find an interesting bug, fix it, and provide a patch [01:17] hmm..ok [01:18] lucas: thank you [01:18] np [01:18] lucas: you are really helpful [01:22] lucas: I have one more query :) [01:23] I want to search only for bugs related to codes.. not others .. [01:24] you should search for bugs in software you are interested in hacking [01:24] it's easier [01:26] ok === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:26] lucas: thank u [01:26] bye all === Kyral [n=Linux@hamlin-164-1697.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=Linux@hamlin-164-3538.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487F8A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@alabama.imag.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger [n=hunger@p54A6150F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Calinours [n=mirspcm@office.spcmnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb [n=bradb@66.103.220.198] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === markuman [n=supermar@p509261D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=chris@p5487E78C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigcx2 [n=bigcx2@157.182.194.245] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GazerWork [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dereks__ [n=dereks@66.9.7.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cyberix [n=cyberix@hoas-fe36dd00-251.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jimb0b [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:31] Can I vote somewhere for GNUnet 0.7 getting dappered? :-) [03:32] maybe... is it already in debian? ;) [03:32] Yes [03:32] then it's no problem... i'll take care of it [03:33] slomo: Great. [03:33] slomo: I must warn you, that it is very different from 0.6-series [03:34] np... debian already has a 0.7 package so the 0.6->0.7 conversion is not my problem anymore [03:34] Ok [03:35] slomo: Are you going to get it to launchpad too, or will I have to ask somewhere else for that? [03:35] slomo: I'd like to work on Finnish translation once it is in launchpad. [03:36] no... just create the package/product yourself there [03:38] and gnunet-gtk will be updated too === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] hello all === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] slomo: Ok. === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:42] cyberix: hum, isn't that easy... needs some other new depends... but don't worry, it'll be done === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] lamont: ping? [03:44] si? === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] lamont: can you remove banshee (for amd64) and galago-sharp (for all) from dep-wait? banshee was removed too early last time it seems... new version wasn't in the archives yet :/ === lamont looks for his lart-bat [03:45] and goes to remove dep-waits in the meanwhile === herzi [n=herzi@c167089.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] lamont: thanks... and sorry for the inconveniences [03:54] so the new libgdiplus fix my bug [03:55] hub: which bug? === zakame_ [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:57] slomo: autopano-sift that crashed in libgdiplus [03:57] slomo: I don't know why, but the 1.1.9 version in dapper works [03:57] slomo: I'll depend on it [03:58] slomo: it crash with 1.1.7, and used to work [03:59] slomo: one more package for multiverse [03:59] because it is "patent encumbered" [04:00] hub: what does it do? [04:00] hub: and libgdiplus 1.1.9 changed many many many bugs actually ;) [04:01] anyway... need to leave now ;) see you later === _jsg [n=jsg@ipdial-181-56.tri-isys.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:09] hmmm, i might be asking a stupid question, but if a source file does not have any explicit license statement, can upstream assume it to be in the public domain? [04:10] no [04:10] if it doesn't state a license then normal copyright laws apply [04:10] I see... [04:11] Amaranth: public domain does not exist in some countries where copyright is implicit [04:11] libmemcache's src/crc32_table.h included this statement: [04:11] * Garrett and was cleaned from the PostgreSQL source [04:11] * tree via the files contrib/ltree/crc32.[ch] . No license was [04:11] * included, therefore it is assumed that this code is public [04:11] * domain. Attribution still noted. */ [04:12] what's everyone's take on this? [04:12] hub: Not quite sure what you mean. Are you agreeing with me? [04:13] Amaranth: in France copyright is implicit for example [04:13] Amaranth: that means the lack of statement is really restricitive [04:13] hub: I thought some UN agreement made it implicit basically everywhere [04:13] yep, but in they US [04:13] s/they/the/ [04:14] ? [04:14] remember the US extend copyright duration on a regular basis, due to lobbying by Disney [04:14] note to self: never use any code not written by Amaranth without a lawyer [04:14] because of the Mickey franchise that brings Million every year [04:15] Amaranth: a license file like GPL is explicit copyright statement [04:15] hub: sonny bono copyright extension act of 1998 [04:15] read "Free Culture" about that [04:15] ok, back to the original point... [04:16] yep [04:16] yeah... [04:16] In most countries worldwide copyright is implicit so if nothing else is stated regular copyright laws apply, correct? [04:16] iow, you can't assume public domain [04:19] ok... if this is so, then it's not safe to package libmemcache? === selinium [n=selinium@80-193-16-239.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === sanpera [n=sanpera@157.182.195.191] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Danten [n=danten@h100n3c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] wb ogra === magnon [n=co@cD9088834.sdsl.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:57] wb magnon [04:58] thanks [04:58] hey magnon, ogra [04:58] finally home === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === zando [n=zando@host253-89.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zando [n=zando@host253-89.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Jimbob_ [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dredg [n=nsherida@216-239-45-4.google.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:37] ogra: ping [05:39] mitsuhiko, pong [05:45] dudes [05:45] Searching on source package name should be working now. Try it out and tell me what you think. [05:45] bradb, wassup ? [05:45] cool [05:45] ! === hunger [n=hunger@p54A60CCB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus [n=sz@p5089D68E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa108.2.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seb128 [n=seb128@66.103.220.233] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:32] hi [06:32] who is doing this wiki pages about absolute icon paths for desktop files? [06:32] hey seb128 [06:33] seb128, Burgundavia did that once, i'm not sure if soemone actively maintains it... i know bddebian worked on the .desktop files [06:33] k, because that's not the way to go [06:34] wipe it ? [06:34] and somebody is flooding malone with bugs/patches [06:34] "flooding" [06:34] odd [06:35] why? [06:35] are the patches right ? [06:35] you sounded like they were wrong [06:35] yeah [06:35] ah, ok, -odd then :) [06:35] but that's like all the desktop files have 3-4 issues according to the validator [06:35] and the patches fix one [06:35] where is dholbach ? [06:36] in his room [06:36] erm.... he should have checked out before 12 ... [06:36] 12 is the hour to check out here? [06:36] seems like [06:37] I don't really care, pitti stays so we keep the room [06:37] I'll check you later [06:37] at least thats what i've been told [06:37] s/you/out/ [06:37] yup === Valandil [n=chrys@dslb-084-056-101-070.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:37] but mvo and dholbach dont [06:37] (12:36:39) dholbach: we need to check out [06:37] (12:36:44) dholbach: we're checkiong out atm [06:37] ah [06:38] ogra: upload pictures! [06:38] magnon, from home.... [06:38] ok:p === seb128 [n=seb128@66.103.220.233] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [06:41] only now that I am trying to build my own little set of debs I can fully appreciate what you guys have been doing for me for the last couple of years! THANKS! [06:42] Does it get easier with time and practice? [06:43] definately === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487F8A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:48] hey magnon! [06:48] magnon: how was your flight to norway? [06:48] awful [06:48] they wanted money for water, food and coffee [06:49] wtf?! [06:49] these bastards! [06:50] yes [06:50] SAS sucks [06:50] 3 for a coffee [06:50] same for half liter of water [06:58] I keep running into "dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends}". Any idea how to fix those? === bigcx2 [n=bigcx2@157.182.194.245] has joined #ubuntu-motu === at1as [n=at1as@24-247-15-243.static.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sanpera [n=sanpera@157.182.195.191] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:00] Does anyone know anything about the Transcode and xvid packages for breezy? === lllmanulll [n=manu@dan75-4-82-239-58-38.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:04] Does anyone know anything about the Transcode and xvid packages for breezy? [07:04] I keep getting errors when trying to import xvid-encoded video. === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.7.130.247] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-69-212.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Laverne [n=Laverne@82-197-192-66.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:37] bye ! === Danten [n=danten@h153n9c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=chris@p5487E78C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:47] Kyral: how's your package? ;) === at1as is back. [07:48] [07:50] slomo: which package are you talking about? [07:51] LaserJock: gnome-rdp or how it was called ;) [07:51] slomo: oh, don't know about that one. He has got one in REVU that I am pretty excited about [07:51] which one? [07:52] FlowDesigner [07:52] It is a part of the MOUTUScience team I put together. The authors were pretty excited at the possibility of get .debs made for it === lucas [n=lucas@d80-170-98-72.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:54] ah that one :) i'll take a look at it tomorrow in my free period [07:55] slomo: that would be great. the one thing that I think needs to be included is a .desktop file [07:56] make one ;) [07:56] I think he will. I guess he wanted feedback on the main part of the package first [08:03] Is there a difference between using DESTDIR and PREFIX in a Makefile? === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487F8A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:11] siretart: ping === lucas [n=lucas@d80-170-4-31.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@d80-170-4-31.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === at1as is back. [08:26] === at1as is back. [08:33] === koke [n=koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb [n=bradb@209.104.102.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herve [n=hcauweli@ip-152.net-82-216-254.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:47] hello [08:48] hi [08:51] magnon: pong === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral stabs GNOME-RDP [09:00] Kyral: hehe [09:01] I can't understand this [09:01] its looking for some DLL [09:01] but I did a lookup for it, and its already being pulled in by a depend [09:01] which? [09:01] and how? [09:01] paste the buildlog somewhere ;) [09:02] (not here!) [09:02] I was about to do that ;P [09:02] lemme make a new one [09:02] I was futzing with it ALOT [09:02] siretart: never mind, just gajim stuff. but it spammed me with 136 windows when I added the msn transport :p [09:02] magnon: yeah ;) [09:03] magnon: hehe, i had the same problem when adding the icq transport ;) [09:03] same here [09:04] I went back to gaim though :P === Laverne [n=Laverne@82-197-192-66.dsl.cambrium.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [09:05] slomo, lemme sort through my mail and I'll upload that buildlog someplace [09:05] ok === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:07] hey === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:18] slomo, http://people.clarkson.edu/~petermcv/gnome-rdp_0.1.3-0ubuntu1.buildlog === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:33] yo daniel! [09:34] need to run... get back to germany ;) === dholbach hugs herve and the rest of the motu guys [09:34] see you :) === Cimmerian [n=crom@80.239.71.244] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-243-186.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:37] this is farkin' stupid [09:37] WTF is up with the lag on my school net === cdsboy [n=cdsboy@c-24-31-19-106.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cdsboy [n=cdsboy@c-24-31-19-106.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:41] how do you get ubuntu netmask hiding [09:41] slomo, you have any idea what is wrong? [09:41] er from freenode [09:41] zul_, I think you need to be an Ubuntu Member first [09:42] Kyral: i am [09:42] Kyral: i'll take a look later [09:42] oops [09:42] sorry :P [09:42] Then I think you need to talk to Seveas [09:42] has the procedure for forcing sync of a debian package over the old ubuntu one changed? [09:43] anybody know what "dpkg-source: unrepresentable changes to source" means when doing debuild ? [09:43] LaserJock, you or some script changed or generated a binary file [09:43] and debian is trying to diff it [09:44] herve: thanks [09:45] Kyral: give me the url to the tarball again please ;) [09:45] their tarball? [09:46] yes [09:46] http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1101 [09:46] at the bottom [09:46] I wish I could just convert that Gentoo EBuild into a debpack.... [09:48] i hate anti-leech scripts [09:50] if test ! -e `pkg-config --variable=prefix mono`/lib/mono/1.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll; then echo false; else echo true; fi [09:50] what does this do for you? [09:50] Kyral [09:51] I can't test it [09:51] why? [09:51] don't have the packages installed ;P [09:51] I build the packages in my PBuilders ;P [09:52] apt-get install mono [09:52] please [09:52] you need it anyway to run it later [09:52] wait...I'm running Beagle [09:52] then you have it [09:52] maybe I don't have pkg-config installed [09:53] wtf mate? [09:53] I didn't have mono installed === moyogo [n=moyogo@104pc104.ucu-vb.uu.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] wait...mono is a metapack [09:53] yes [09:53] you need mono-classlib-1.0 [09:53] for my test abov [09:53] and beagle needs that too [09:54] still giving me false [09:54] Blasted configure script is looking in the wrong place === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@203-173-174-27.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:54] it isn't [09:54] if test ! -e `pkg-config --variable=prefix mono`/lib/mono/1.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll; then echo false; else echo true; fi [09:54] does this tell you true? [09:55] Hi all [09:55] no [09:55] there is a good bridging tool some ware in the repos [09:55] Wait, do I need to run that with root? [09:55] i have forgoten the name [09:56] Kyral: no [09:56] you add like br0 to /etc/network/interfaces once you install it [09:56] any one know the name of it? [09:56] Kyral: dpkg -L mono-classlib-1.0 | grep SqliteClient [09:57] http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4190 === ubuntu asks: anyone bridging to nic's in ubuntu? [09:58] Kyral: your system seems to be broken ;) [09:58] why? [09:58] Kyral: echo `pkg-config --variable=prefix mono`/lib/mono/1.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll [09:58] Kyral: what does it tell you? [09:58] look in the Debian and Ubuntu repos for that [09:59] its where they are supposed to go [09:59] /lib/mono/1.0/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll [09:59] ah [09:59]