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| mhz | hi | 12:30 |
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| mhz | http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuCdAndSlip Has been updated based on the opinions and suggestions gotten in IRC | 12:31 |
| mhz | JaneW: hi there | 12:31 |
| === cafuego is getting an 'rpc failed' on booting a thin client (it gets an IP and a kernel) | ||
| cafuego | specifically: 'rpc failed: 2' in between /scripts/nfs-premount and /scripts/nfs-bottom | 12:34 |
| mhz | I actually never payed attention to errors as long as clients do boot | 12:36 |
| mhz | IIRC, Oliver mentioned some errors as 'normal' for this version | 12:36 |
| mhz | :) | 12:36 |
| cafuego | This plonks me in a busybox shell, no joy on the booting :-( | 12:36 |
| mhz | ooohhh | 12:36 |
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| cafuego | The scripts all report 'Done.' but then I end up with: mount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: No such file or directory | 12:37 |
| mhz | oooh | 12:38 |
| mhz | well, you got me there. | 12:38 |
| mhz | and had your installation worked ok before getting this errors? | 12:38 |
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| cafuego | Can you tell me the cfg in your inetd (fopr tftp) and pxelinux.0/default? | 12:40 |
| cafuego | argh /me lags | 12:40 |
| mhz_cooking | cafuego: yes, gimme 2 mins | 12:41 |
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| cafuego_ | Ack | 12:41 |
| cafuego_ | Any chance you could give me your tftp config line and pxelinux config? | 12:42 |
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| mhz_cooking | cafuego_: ping | 07:50 |
| cafuego_ | mhz: pong | 08:22 |
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| === P3L|C4N0 Hello friendes - Hola amigos - Buna prietens | ||
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| Arago | hello all | 11:29 |
| Arago | I have a question. Can I ? | 11:29 |
| bluefrog-10 | what about? | 11:43 |
| Arago | I'm looking for a software like the DERIVE(tm) one | 11:43 |
| bluefrog-10 | sry don't know what it is | 11:44 |
| Arago | it's a matematical soft used to resolve equation, disequation. Also plot a graph for the function | 11:44 |
| bluefrog-10 | u're runnning ubuntu i suppose? | 11:45 |
| Arago | yes | 11:46 |
| bluefrog-10 | open applications > add applications and have a look in the edutainment menu | 11:47 |
| bluefrog-10 | i can see kmplot which could be useful to u maybe | 11:47 |
| Arago | i'll do it now | 11:47 |
| Arago | thank | 11:47 |
| bluefrog-10 | you can also use synaptic | 11:47 |
| bluefrog-10 | and use it's sections sorting ability to trace something | 11:48 |
| bluefrog-10 | in both case u should enble the universe repository | 11:48 |
| bluefrog-10 | and eventually muliverse | 11:48 |
| bluefrog-10 | multiverse | 11:49 |
| Arago | ok thanks for now ! | 11:49 |
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| mhz_breakfast | bluefrog-10: also, maybe he could look at http://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuScientists | 01:15 |
| === mhz_breakfast bbl | ||
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| mhz_breakfast | re | 02:09 |
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| zakame | hey mhz :) | 02:10 |
| mhz | zakame: nice to cya | 02:10 |
| mhz | has anyone here helped ogra with the recipe of current 5.10? | 02:11 |
| zakame | recipe? | 02:11 |
| mhz | zakame: hmmm, with the knowhow and actually making all the components work together well for the release | 02:12 |
| zakame | mhz: ah | 02:12 |
| mhz | :) | 02:12 |
| mhz | sorry, I feel a little lazy lately and didnt want to write all that :D | 02:12 |
| zakame | no problem, just asking as I'm also new too :D | 02:13 |
| mhz | okidoki | 02:13 |
| mhz | highvoltage: hi, did you? | 02:13 |
| mhz | JaneW: ping | 02:14 |
| highvoltage | mhz: sorry, did I? | 02:14 |
| mhz | has anyone here helped ogra with the recipe of current 5.10? | 02:14 |
| highvoltage | ah, sorry. catching up noe. | 02:15 |
| mhz | recipe= hmmm, with the knowhow and actually making all the components work together well for the release | 02:15 |
| highvoltage | now. | 02:15 |
| highvoltage | mhz: i think it's all ogra, really. | 02:15 |
| mhz | ok | 02:15 |
| highvoltage | he did the whole edubuntu by himself. | 02:15 |
| mhz | highvoltage: ever done a customized LiveCd | 02:15 |
| mhz | ? | 02:15 |
| highvoltage | yep. | 02:15 |
| mhz | highvoltage: duh! that's why he's Mr. Edubuntu | 02:16 |
| highvoltage | i've done a livecd from scratch, and customised knoppix a few times. | 02:16 |
| mhz | highvoltage: could you help me with some details? | 02:16 |
| highvoltage | mhz: yes :) | 02:16 |
| highvoltage | sure. | 02:16 |
| mhz | thx | 02:16 |
| highvoltage | edoo: ogra | 02:17 |
| edoo | ogra is Oliver Grawert | 02:17 |
| highvoltage | edoo: ogra | 02:17 |
| edoo | ogra is Oliver Grawert | 02:17 |
| highvoltage | hmmm.. | 02:17 |
| mhz | I have a meeting tomorrow with one of the important universities here in Chile. Some math teachers have asked to think how to make customized Edubuntu LiveCd's for each carrier | 02:17 |
| mhz | highvoltage: is edoo a bot? | 02:17 |
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| highvoltage | yep. | 02:18 |
| highvoltage | edoo: mhz | 02:18 |
| edoo | highvoltage: I'm not following you... | 02:18 |
| highvoltage | ok. thought he knew your name too. | 02:18 |
| mhz | hhehe | 02:18 |
| highvoltage | edoo: choose highvoltage is stupid or highvoltage is clever | 02:18 |
| edoo | I choose highvoltage is clever, highvoltage | 02:18 |
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| mhz | LOL | 02:18 |
| highvoltage | edoo: google for edubuntu | 02:18 |
| edoo | highvoltage: Google found 'Edubuntu - Linux for Young Human Beings', at "http://www.edubuntu.org/" | 02:18 |
| zakame | haha | 02:18 |
| highvoltage | edoo: slashdot | 02:19 |
| edoo | highvoltage: Slashdot - Updated 2005-11-08 12:35:00 | Vertical Axis Wind Turbine With Push and Pull | Morfik and Rapid Development of Modern Web Apps | No More Science on the ISS Until Further Notice | YouTube Receives $3.5M Funding from Sequoia | 02:19 |
| mhz | edoo: google for edward ubuntu | 02:19 |
| edoo | mhz: Google found 'Edward's Weblog', at "http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/edward?entry=nis_auth_and_ubuntu_group" | 02:19 |
| mhz | :D | 02:19 |
| highvoltage | it has karma too. | 02:20 |
| highvoltage | edoo: mhz++ | 02:20 |
| highvoltage | edoo: karma mhz | 02:20 |
| edoo | highvoltage: mhz has karma of 1 | 02:20 |
| mhz | nha | 02:20 |
| mhz | I should have at least 10 | 02:20 |
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| mhz | highvoltage: sorry to interrupt your delightful entretainment but.. | 02:21 |
| mhz | I have a meeting tomorrow with one of the important universities here in Chile. Some math teachers have asked to think how to make customized Edubuntu LiveCd's for each carrier | 02:21 |
| mhz | so, | 02:21 |
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| mhz | I gotta make a list how much effort that would mean | 02:21 |
| mhz | what kind of infrastructure they should have to do so | 02:22 |
| neurogeek | mhz, good morning! | 02:22 |
| mhz | neurogeek: guten morgen | 02:23 |
| highvoltage | hmmm... | 02:23 |
| mhz | neurogeek: you speak spanish, right? | 02:23 |
| highvoltage | i usually worked off the customising knoppix guides. | 02:23 |
| highvoltage | i wonder if there's a similar one for ubuntu. | 02:24 |
| highvoltage | that might be the best bet. | 02:24 |
| highvoltage | edoo: google for customise ubuntu livecs | 02:24 |
| highvoltage | edoo: google for customise ubuntu livecd | 02:24 |
| edoo | highvoltage: ERROR: No matches found | 02:24 |
| edoo | highvoltage: Google found 'Ubuntu - Linux for Human Beings', at "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/" | 02:24 |
| === highvoltage uses big google instead | ||
| mhz | hehehe | 02:24 |
| mhz | highvoltage: I can google as well, but I was wondering if you could have some ideas | 02:25 |
| neurogeek | mhz, si.. jeje | 02:25 |
| mhz | neurogeek: are you participating in this maracaibo congress? | 02:25 |
| mhz | highvoltage: ie. how much do you usually take on making your own livecd from scratch and what implements you used | 02:26 |
| highvoltage | mhz: seen http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo? | 02:26 |
| jelkner | anyone here who could help fix a broken idle? | 02:26 |
| highvoltage | mhz: they were small ones, mostly for my own education. the one i worked hardest at was for a generic gnu/linux installer i want to finish one day. | 02:27 |
| highvoltage | jelkner: i'm not very good with cars, but i can try? | 02:27 |
| jelkner | lol, great! | 02:27 |
| jelkner | a bit of background | 02:27 |
| jelkner | idle will not start on this system | 02:28 |
| mhz | jelkner: hi there, let's try | 02:28 |
| jelkner | it works on the newer edubuntu systems i've setup | 02:28 |
| jelkner | but this one was a prerelease that has been upgraded | 02:28 |
| mhz | highvoltage: and in average, how many hours? | 02:28 |
| jelkner | i've tried uninstalling and reinstalling, but no luck | 02:28 |
| jelkner | here is the error message: | 02:28 |
| neurogeek | mhz, yes.. we'll be there talking about Cuaima and about the Venezuelan linux distro :) | 02:28 |
| highvoltage | i think you could customise and ubuntu livecd in a day or two, if you have the time. | 02:28 |
| jelkner | jelkner@edubuntu:~$ idle | 02:29 |
| jelkner | Traceback (most recent call last): | 02:29 |
| jelkner | File "/usr/bin/idle", line 5, in ? | 02:29 |
| jelkner | main() | 02:29 |
| jelkner | File "/usr/lib/python2.4/idlelib/PyShell.py", line 1350, in main | 02:29 |
| jelkner | root = Tk(className="Idle") | 02:29 |
| neurogeek | mhz, are you going?? | 02:29 |
| jelkner | File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1569, in __init__ | 02:29 |
| jelkner | self.tk = _tkinter.create(screenName, baseName, className, interactive, wantobjects, useTk, sync, use) | 02:29 |
| jelkner | _tkinter.TclError: this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black" | 02:29 |
| highvoltage | mhz: i would also try to get in contact with the ubuntu guys who put together the livecd, perhaps they have some scripts that will help you get it down to just a few hours. | 02:29 |
| highvoltage | jelkner: how did you install idle? apt-get install idle? | 02:30 |
| mhz | neurogeek: I have no money to yet, but YES! I'd love to go and talk about many stuff, esp. our intent to do the Inst. Tecnologias Libres para L.A. | 02:30 |
| jelkner | yup | 02:30 |
| jelkner | and when i removed it, it did --purge | 02:30 |
| highvoltage | i'm just installing idle too... just a moment... | 02:31 |
| jelkner | yours will probably work | 02:31 |
| jelkner | i've only had this problem in this system | 02:31 |
| mhz | jelkner: sorry, I can't install idle right now so I can reproduce errors :( | 02:31 |
| mhz | oh | 02:31 |
| jelkner | which we setup at the end of august and then upgraded | 02:31 |
| mhz | ohh | 02:32 |
| mhz | jelkner: is idle a devel app? | 02:32 |
| jelkner | mhz: yes | 02:32 |
| neurogeek | mhz, great idea!! i hope you can go and we get a time to talk about stuff | 02:32 |
| highvoltage | jelkner: apt-get install python-tk | 02:33 |
| mhz | neurogeek: so far.. funds are tending to zero :) | 02:33 |
| jelkner | highvoltage: let me try... | 02:33 |
| highvoltage | that *might* help. as far as i can deduce it looks like you don't have that installed. | 02:33 |
| neurogeek | mhz, oopps!! | 02:33 |
| highvoltage | jelkner: no, seems i'm wrong, ignore me :) | 02:34 |
| mhz | neurogeek: however, I can get to convince one of the institutions here to support us, maybe I can get there | 02:34 |
| highvoltage | i think that might be one for #ubuntu | 02:34 |
| highvoltage | or the lists | 02:34 |
| jelkner | highvoltage: no change | 02:34 |
| mhz | jelkner: have you installed python-dev ? | 02:34 |
| jelkner | hold on... | 02:34 |
| neurogeek | mhz, good luck.. i do hope so!! | 02:34 |
| mhz | neurogeek: thx | 02:35 |
| mhz | me too | 02:35 |
| jelkner | mhz: it shouldn't matter, i installed idle through apt | 02:36 |
| jelkner | so there shouldn't be missing dependencies | 02:36 |
| jelkner | i would file a bug report | 02:36 |
| jelkner | only it is not a general problem | 02:36 |
| jelkner | a new edubuntu install won't have it | 02:36 |
| jelkner | but this was an august prerelease that has been upgraded | 02:37 |
| zakame | jelkner: do you have python2.4-tk installed? | 02:37 |
| jelkner | zakame: yes, idle depends on it | 02:37 |
| zakame | jelkner: can you apt-get --reinstall install python2.4-tk and try idle again? | 02:38 |
| jelkner | zakame: i did that, i even uninstalled idle, python2.4-tk and reinstalled both | 02:39 |
| jelkner | same problem | 02:39 |
| mhz | jelkner: weired that problem indeed is :) | 02:41 |
| zakame | how about updating {tcl,tk}8.4? | 02:42 |
| jelkner | mhz: i'm going to uninstall all python and tk related stuff that won't break other things | 02:42 |
| jelkner | then i'll try reinstalling idle | 02:43 |
| jelkner | let me see how that goes | 02:43 |
| mhz | jelkner: are you using AMD, x86 or PPC? | 02:43 |
| jelkner | mhz: x86 | 02:44 |
| jelkner | dual xeon | 02:44 |
| mhz | ok | 02:45 |
| mhz | jelkner: tried #python ? | 02:45 |
| mhz | jelkner: neurogeek manages python very well (IIRC he's a developer on python) | 02:46 |
| mhz | neurogeek: any ideas with jelkner's issue? | 02:46 |
| neurogeek | mhz, let me read to see i can be of any help | 02:47 |
| neurogeek | jelkner, what have you installed so far and what ubuntu version are you running? | 02:49 |
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| mhz | highvoltage: thx | 02:50 |
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| highvoltage | ok, catch you guys a bit later. | 02:57 |
| highvoltage | bye! | 02:57 |
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| jelkner | any python hackers here at the moment? | 03:55 |
| jelkner | i'm trying to follow this traceback that is preventing idle from running | 03:56 |
| jelkner | i've tried uninstalling *all* python packages i could, including idle an tk, but after reinstalling idle, the problem persists | 03:56 |
| zakame | well, dump idle, use another editor instead :p | 03:58 |
| neurogeek | jelkner, tell me | 03:58 |
| neurogeek | jelkner, whats the error?? | 03:59 |
| jelkner | jelkner@edubuntu:~$ idle | 03:59 |
| jelkner | Traceback (most recent call last): | 03:59 |
| jelkner | File "/usr/bin/idle", line 5, in ? | 03:59 |
| jelkner | main() | 03:59 |
| jelkner | File "/usr/lib/python2.4/idlelib/PyShell.py", line 1350, in main | 03:59 |
| jelkner | root = Tk(className="Idle") | 03:59 |
| jelkner | File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1569, in __init__ | 03:59 |
| jelkner | self.tk = _tkinter.create(screenName, baseName, className, interactive, wantobjects, useTk, sync, use) | 03:59 |
| jelkner | _tkinter.TclError: this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black" | 03:59 |
| jelkner | not much in /usr/bin/idle | 04:00 |
| jelkner | i don't know where "Black" is coming from | 04:00 |
| jelkner | so the error is actually coming from tk, yes? | 04:01 |
| neurogeek | yes | 04:01 |
| neurogeek | thats the main problem.. | 04:01 |
| neurogeek | what version of TK are you using?? | 04:01 |
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| vzl | better. | 04:03 |
| jelkner | neurogeek: tk8.4 | 04:03 |
| jelkner | neurogeek: here is the strange part, on an fresh edubuntu install, this problem does not occur | 04:04 |
| jelkner | this system was an august prerelease install that was updated | 04:04 |
| jelkner | so there is something that wasn't removed during the upgrades that is causing the problem | 04:05 |
| jelkner | i've tried uninstalling and reinstalling tk8.4 several times | 04:05 |
| jelkner | but i can't get rid of the problem | 04:05 |
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| Yagisan | G'day All | 04:08 |
| zakame | heya Yagisan | 04:09 |
| neurogeek | jelkner, lets see.. it shouldn't matter because you are using the same packages | 04:09 |
| neurogeek | jelkner, sounds you are still missing some deps | 04:10 |
| Yagisan | So whats up ? I had a rather nice 3 day weekend, which was finished off with terrorist raids a few suburbs away =-O | 04:11 |
| neurogeek | jelkner, or your libraries are way too wrong | 04:12 |
| jelkner | neurogeek: so, what can i do? | 04:14 |
| bluefrog-10 | hi folks, is that ok if I publish an (U/Edu)buntu management script on edubuntu wiki under the following license? http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5 | 04:15 |
| jelkner | i could bite the bullet, and reinstall edubuntu | 04:15 |
| neurogeek | not yet.. lets see if we cabn work it out | 04:15 |
| jelkner | moving home directories and getting the info i need from /etc/passwd /etc/group /etc/shadow | 04:15 |
| jelkner | yes, i would rather not have to reinstall | 04:16 |
| neurogeek | jelkner, did you apt-get update?? | 04:16 |
| jelkner | yes | 04:16 |
| jelkner | many, many time, since august | 04:16 |
| neurogeek | jelkner, Ok | 04:16 |
| jelkner | s/times/time | 04:16 |
| neurogeek | i would do this then.. i would download tk source code and idel source code to see if it works... | 04:16 |
| jelkner | hmm... but that would mean i still have a broken tk on the system | 04:17 |
| jelkner | which will probably cause other problems in the future | 04:18 |
| Yagisan | bluefrog-10: IIRC the wiki already is all covered by http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/ | 04:19 |
| jelkner | i'm open to trying to get rid of the current tk in a more complete way (did apt-get remove tk8.4 --purge still leave artifacts that are causing this?) | 04:19 |
| jelkner | but i would prefer to reinstall then to try messing around with source installs | 04:19 |
| Yagisan | hmm, that reminds me, I need to ask mhz about restoring authorship credits on the wiki | 04:20 |
| Burgundavia | Yagisan, what do you mean restore? | 04:21 |
| Burgundavia | bluefrog-10, the wiki is currently under an ambigous license, but is most likely the doc team ones. They are GFDL and CC-by-sa 2.0 | 04:22 |
| Yagisan | Burgundavia: Simply, I wrote a document with my authorship, added stuff from another author that privately mailed me, edited it and fixed some mistakes | 04:24 |
| Yagisan | Burgundavia: and stuck it on the wiki, while cleaning up the formating, mhz removed the authorship in favour of a community doc | 04:24 |
| neurogeek | jelkner, Ok.. my thoughts were to compile/install tk and idle in a non-standard dir so you could test if thet problems remained in your packages | 04:25 |
| Burgundavia | Yagisan, hmm... | 04:25 |
| Yagisan | Burgundavia: I wish to speak to him first, then revert the removals (and keep the cleanups) | 04:25 |
| Burgundavia | Yagisan, if you mean a page that lists what you have written, your Homepages is great for that | 04:25 |
| Burgundavia | any other place is not good | 04:26 |
| Yagisan | Burgundavia: No, check history on http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe | 04:26 |
| Burgundavia | Yagisan, we don't put any credits on the wiki | 04:26 |
| Burgundavia | so I would have removed them as well | 04:27 |
| Yagisan | Burgundavia: hmm, can you point me to policy on that | 04:27 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, don't know if we ever wrote it down | 04:27 |
| Burgundavia | likely the style guide might mention it | 04:28 |
| Yagisan | Burgundavia: I never saw it anywhere, and I would have taken it into consideration | 04:28 |
| Burgundavia | the pratical reason we don't do it that a lot of docs have a number of authors | 04:29 |
| Burgundavia | plus we avoid the whole "thats my doc" thing | 04:29 |
| Yagisan | Burgundavia: Then you have a bad license for the docs. | 04:30 |
| Burgundavia | why do you say? | 04:31 |
| Burgundavia | the attribution part of CC and the GFDL? | 04:31 |
| Burgundavia | it is there, look in the history | 04:31 |
| Burgundavia | the license doesn't say you have to identify in the main doc who wrote what, you just have to be able to tell | 04:31 |
| Yagisan | Burgundavia: the attribution part can cause confusion. confusion is bad | 04:32 |
| Burgundavia | regardless, those are the licenses we release it under | 04:32 |
| Yagisan | Burgundavia: I'd rather had been commented out then deleted | 04:32 |
| Burgundavia | that just means that editors get to read it, yay | 04:32 |
| Burgundavia | Yagisan, I understand where you are coming from but I have to say I don't agree with you | 04:33 |
| Yagisan | Burgundavia: That's fine. I just want to discuss the whys, and get it into a formal policy | 04:33 |
| Burgundavia | sure, join #ubuntu-dco | 04:34 |
| Burgundavia | doc | 04:34 |
| Burgundavia | better actually is to write an email to the ubuntu-doc list | 04:34 |
| Burgundavia | because I am about to leave for work, so will not able to continue this | 04:34 |
| Yagisan | Burgundavia: because, under my understanding of the license, it was broken by deleting the authorship creditsm without substantial changes in content | 04:34 |
| Yagisan | Burgundavia: 2:30am here, I'll be in bed soon | 04:35 |
| Burgundavia | fire that email and we can talk | 04:35 |
| jelkner | neurogeek: thanks for your help... gotta run... | 04:35 |
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| bluefrog-10 | Burgundavia, Yagisan, y for your replys, sry was at school to get my kid... | 05:27 |
| JaneW | hi all | 05:54 |
| bluefrog-10 | hi | 05:55 |
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| bluefrog-10 | have a question for you regarding document licensing on edubuntu wiki if you have time | 05:55 |
| bluefrog-10 | JaneW, sry the previous sentence is directed to you :) | 05:57 |
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| jsgotangco | bluefrog-10: try to email the list too | 05:57 |
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| bluefrog-10 | !list | 05:58 |
| bluefrog-10 | edoo list | 05:58 |
| edoo | bluefrog-10: huh? | 05:58 |
| JaneW | bluefrog-10: yes | 05:59 |
| bluefrog-10 | so far doc on edubuntu are under by-sa/2.5 | 05:59 |
| bluefrog-10 | what if i want to publish something under by-nc-sa/2.5? | 05:59 |
| JaneW | bluefrog-10: are you wanting to publish your content on our wiki under by-nc-sa/2.5? | 06:04 |
| bluefrog-10 | JaneW, I'd like to, yes | 06:05 |
| JaneW | bluefrog-10: why would you not want to use by-sa/2.5? | 06:05 |
| bluefrog-10 | JaneW, selfishness I presume :), I explain myself... | 06:06 |
| bluefrog-10 | I am currently unemployed and spending an awful lot of time on that script of mine (I am no programmer to start with but doing my best) and I don't like the idea of someone just taking the script as it is and publishing it in paper for example... | 06:07 |
| JaneW | bluefrog-10: script? | 06:08 |
| bluefrog-10 | JaneW, bash script with menus to ease the installation and management of various programs targeting IT guys and non IT people (teachers...) | 06:10 |
| bluefrog-10 | JaneW, programs such as Samba-ldap, changing skeletons depending of grooup membership and so on... | 06:11 |
| JaneW | bluefrog-10: we are not actually comfortable with the nc license, and make a point of making all of our content available via GPL and cc-sa/2.5 | 06:13 |
| bluefrog-10 | JaneW, or maybe I can just create a page with a link to my website or would that be considered as being impolite/misconduct? | 06:13 |
| JaneW | bluefrog-10: I would suggest that a good way to handle this would be for you to publish your script (or whathaveyou) on your own site and we can link to it from our wiki. | 06:14 |
| JaneW | snap :) | 06:14 |
| bluefrog-10 | JaneW, ok :) | 06:14 |
| bluefrog-10 | JaneW, ty for answering | 06:14 |
| JaneW | np | 06:15 |
| bluefrog-10 | JaneW, sry what' the cc-sa for, I don't seem to find it on creative commons page | 06:18 |
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| vmarks | hi~ | 08:09 |
| vmarks | mysteriously, my edubuntu machine has stopped booting clients. | 08:09 |
| vmarks | yet dhcp is on | 08:09 |
| vmarks | any suggestions are welcome | 08:11 |
| neurogeek | vmarks, booting clients?? as in thin-clients?? | 08:17 |
| vmarks | yes | 08:19 |
| vmarks | it's a two-nic server also doing thinclient NAT, and both nics are configured, and it worked only a few hours ago. | 08:20 |
| neurogeek | vmarks, did you check your ftfp server?? | 08:22 |
| vmarks | no, I didn't. | 08:22 |
| vmarks | earlier I had some thinclients that could get DHCP but didn't find pxelinux.0 to be a valid image file. | 08:24 |
| vmarks | since then, I haven't had a thinclient that has worked in the past, working now | 08:24 |
| neurogeek | when you boot pxe.. you have to check three things.. DHCP server (dhcp conf), TFTP server and pxelinux.cfg files | 08:25 |
| neurogeek | its probably not finding the right configuration for booting up | 08:25 |
| vmarks | sure, but the client (known to work | 08:25 |
| vmarks | ) | 08:25 |
| vmarks | doesn't even get a dhcp address | 08:26 |
| vmarks | yet dhcp is running. | 08:26 |
| bluefrog-10 | get rid of the leases | 08:26 |
| vmarks | /usr/sbin/dhcpd3 -q -pf /var/run/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.pid -cf /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf | 08:26 |
| vmarks | stopping and restarting dhcpd hasn't helped. | 08:26 |
| neurogeek | vmarks, check your dhcp.conf file.. make sure everything is alright there | 08:27 |
| vmarks | looks correct. | 08:27 |
| bluefrog-10 | don't have anything in the server log about dhcp? | 08:27 |
| neurogeek | check logs as bluefrog-10 suggests | 08:28 |
| vmarks | bah humbug. | 08:28 |
| vmarks | so much for placing this in the science lab this week. | 08:28 |
| vmarks | okay, the very bottom of the syslog says no free leases on DHCPDISCOVER. | 08:31 |
| vmarks | so, how to unlease those? | 08:31 |
| bluefrog-10 | as for tftp, I assume that ltsp files are /var/lib/tftpboot/ (or something similar) and not in /tftpboot/lts. If this is the case delete the all dir /tftpboot/lts | 08:31 |
| vmarks | and, what setting to change in order to prevent this in the future? | 08:31 |
| bluefrog-10 | rm dhcpd.leases | 08:31 |
| bluefrog-10 | in dhcp.conf try to lower the lease release | 08:32 |
| bluefrog-10 | after erasing dhcpd.leases you might have to restart dhcpd | 08:32 |
| vmarks | dhcp.conf or dhcpd.conf? | 08:33 |
| bluefrog-10 | the one used by edubuntu, hang on having a look | 08:33 |
| bluefrog-10 | must be /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf | 08:34 |
| vmarks | I see no mention of leases, only the range. | 08:34 |
| bluefrog-10 | add some | 08:35 |
| vmarks | 192.168.0.20 192.168.0.250 | 08:35 |
| bluefrog-10 | default-lease-time 600; | 08:35 |
| bluefrog-10 | max-lease-time 7200; | 08:35 |
| bluefrog-10 | and see what it does with that | 08:35 |
| bluefrog-10 | if still not good, lower them | 08:35 |
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| vmarks | those belong inside the { } with all the other options? | 08:37 |
| vmarks | and they don't need to be prefaced by the word 'options' ? | 08:37 |
| bluefrog-10 | add them at the beginning of the file | 08:42 |
| bluefrog-10 | underneath authoritative; | 08:42 |
| vmarks | inside or outside the { }? | 08:44 |
| bluefrog-10 | outside just underneath authoritative; | 08:44 |
| bluefrog-10 | and don't forget to erase the .leases file | 08:45 |
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| vmarks | thank you | 08:52 |
| vmarks | it's working better now since the leases have been deleted. | 08:52 |
| bluefrog-10 | sur | 08:52 |
| vmarks | hopefully adding those lines will help too | 08:52 |
| vmarks | what could be wrong that some old clients using etherboot wouldn't like the pxelinux.0? | 08:53 |
| bluefrog-10 | if your clients are booting very often you may have to lower the release time | 08:53 |
| bluefrog-10 | not sure if the pxelinux.0 is the file needed to boot ehterboot client | 08:54 |
| bluefrog-10 | in my mind shouold be more a vmlinuz file but I don't know how ogra made his stuff regarding that | 08:55 |
| bluefrog-10 | ogra's the man for you on that one I think | 08:56 |
| vmarks | thank you | 08:56 |
| bluefrog-10 | u're welcome | 08:56 |
| vmarks | that's one step I have to have in place- there are various compaqs and dells in the science lab all with etherboot on them | 08:57 |
| vmarks | I'd like to reuse them since they've booted k12ltsp in the past without issue | 08:57 |
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| vmarks | on ancient fedore core1 | 08:58 |
| vmarks | (shudder) | 08:58 |
| bluefrog-10 | hang on got something for you | 08:58 |
| bluefrog-10 | http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe | 08:59 |
| vmarks | I wonder if there's a way to have both working, pxe and non? | 08:59 |
| bluefrog-10 | sure no problem | 08:59 |
| bluefrog-10 | after a quick look at the link i sent u, it seems that both are using same pxelinux.0 file | 09:01 |
| bluefrog-10 | certainly because of the PXELOADER_KEEP_ALL option used to generate the boot floppy | 09:03 |
| bluefrog-10 | as for K12 i think u're out of luck | 09:03 |
| bluefrog-10 | cause K12 is keeping 2 different files. one for pxe the other one for etherboot | 09:04 |
| bluefrog-10 | I think... | 09:04 |
| bluefrog-10 | well apparently there is a vmlinuz file in /var/lib/tftpboot | 09:06 |
| bluefrog-10 | so i guess you should try your K12 floppies | 09:06 |
| bluefrog-10 | you will have to add some stuff in your dhcpd.conf though | 09:06 |
| bluefrog-10 | still with me vmarks ? | 09:08 |
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| vincenzio | vmarks is going to have to pick this up tomorrow | 09:13 |
| vincenzio | thanks again bluefrog-10 | 09:13 |
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| \sh | btw... | 10:20 |
| \sh | guys...if anyone needs cds..and does not fear to pay a bit for it... | 10:21 |
| \sh | http://www.linuxshop.de/shop/catalog/index.php?cPath=70&osCsid=2da56936675293cbc3cc8eee6e01c575 | 10:21 |
| \sh | aehm | 10:21 |
| \sh | this is better http://www.linuxshop.de/shop/catalog/index.php?cPath=70 | 10:21 |
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| signifer123 | i thoguht you offered free ones? | 10:48 |
| \sh | signifer123: i don't offer at all.. | 10:48 |
| \sh | signifer123: but it | 10:48 |
| \sh | 's an efford from an kubuntu guy | 10:49 |
| signifer123 | ohh | 10:49 |
| signifer123 | edubuntu hold develpment meetings? | 10:51 |
| signifer123 | and do you guys a have a forum? | 10:51 |
| \sh | http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuCommunity | 10:53 |
| signifer123 | ok so no forum jsut a mialing list? | 10:54 |
| cafuego_ | I get "Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: No such file or directory" (default edubuntu install). /root/dev does indeed not exist. Am I missing some kernel parameter perhaps? | 11:09 |
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| cafuego_ | ... and the NFS server never gets as much as a single mount request. | 11:12 |
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