| \sh | moins | 12:26 |
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| slomo | hi \sh :) how was your flight? | 12:27 |
| \sh | good...but missed my connection flight from ffm to cgn and they lost my luggage then | 12:27 |
| LaserJock | yikes! | 12:28 |
| Lathiat | heh nice | 12:28 |
| Lathiat | win 13 | 12:28 |
| slomo | \sh: completly lost or did it already show up again? | 12:29 |
| \sh | it was found couple of hours later | 12:30 |
| slomo | oh, at least some luck | 12:31 |
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| slomo | hmm, brb | 12:33 |
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| hub | how to I mark launchpad bugs in package changelogs? | 01:13 |
| LaserJock | how do you get a man page installed using dh_installman? | 01:36 |
| hub | LaserJock: you use cdbs, don't you? | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | hub: I'm not using cdbs | 01:37 |
| LaserJock | do you have to specify where the man page is? | 01:39 |
| dredg | SYNOPSIS | 01:40 |
| dredg | dh_installman [debhelper options] [manpage ...] | 01:40 |
| dredg | i hate to say 'rtfm' but... | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | dredg: been there, done that, still confused | 01:40 |
| dredg | really? looks pretty self-evident to me | 01:41 |
| dredg | You tell it what man pages go in your packages, and it figures out where to install them based on the section field in their .TH line. | 01:41 |
| dredg | and the above synopsis pretty much says 'use: dh_installman manpage' | 01:41 |
| LaserJock | dredg: no, you specify if you don't want to have a man page installed | 01:42 |
| dredg | if you don't want to have a man page installed then surely you don't run dh_installman? | 01:42 |
| LaserJock | crap, I was looking at dh_installmanpages not dh_installman | 01:43 |
| dredg | see the Notes bit at the end of the dh_installman manpage | 01:45 |
| LaserJock | dang, still not working | 01:46 |
| dredg | no? | 01:46 |
| LaserJock | ok, I have my man page in /debian , is that ok? | 01:46 |
| dredg | don't think so | 01:51 |
| LaserJock | maybe the man page has to be in the source directory | 01:52 |
| LaserJock | darn | 01:52 |
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| LaserJock | ugghh, why won't it install a man page? | 02:14 |
| crimsun | is the .TH section correctly formatted? | 02:16 |
| LaserJock | I'm pretty sure it is | 02:16 |
| LaserJock | I compared mine with the one for less and it seemed right | 02:17 |
| crimsun | make a package.manpages, then | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: yeah, that worked. sweet | 02:21 |
| hub | can someone review this http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=876 | 02:21 |
| hub | it does fix a malone bug | 02:21 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: does that mean I did something wrong or dh_installman couldn't figure out that my man page was a man page? | 02:22 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: if the man page isn't installed explicitly, you'd have to use dh_installman path/to/foo.1 -p package | 02:24 |
| crimsun | or something similar | 02:24 |
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| LaserJock | crimsun: but is it ok to have package.manpages in /debian ? | 02:27 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: are they upstream's or debian's? | 02:28 |
| crimsun | hub: that -data version dependency looks sketchy | 02:28 |
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| LaserJock | crimsun: I made the man page myself | 02:29 |
| zakame | morning all :) | 02:29 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: then having debian/package.section is fine, yes | 02:29 |
| crimsun | doesn't have to be package.section, of course, but whatever your binary's name is | 02:30 |
| hub | crimsun: the -data does have the glade files and 2.0.x does not have the same set | 02:30 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: ok, well I made a patch to put it in the source directory because I thought it might have to go there | 02:30 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: and then have package.manpages | 02:30 |
| hub | crimsun: that's why. I'm just fixing the package from Debian | 02:30 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: nope, leave it in debian/ if it's yours | 02:30 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: ok | 02:31 |
| crimsun | hub: but why does glabels have this: Depends: glabels-data (<= ${Source-Version}) ? | 02:32 |
| crimsun | hub: i.e., a dependency on a -data _lower_ that what you're trying to install? | 02:33 |
| crimsun | s/that/than/ | 02:33 |
| hub | crimsun: it had | 02:33 |
| zakame | hmmm glabels :) | 02:34 |
| hub | crimsun: don't know. it is how it came from Debian | 02:34 |
| zakame | crimsun: it's lower than or equal, actually, probably because -data doesn't change very much | 02:35 |
| crimsun | which means if you have Breezy's -data installed, it won't be upgraded. Is that the intent? | 02:36 |
| zakame | seems so | 02:36 |
| zakame | however, if changes are made to -data, iirc upstream should be notified about it | 02:37 |
| hub | crimsun: if it is not upgraded it does not work | 02:38 |
| hub | crimsun: bug 3993 in malone | 02:38 |
| hub | crimsun: because the .glade are in the -data | 02:38 |
| hub | maybe the .glabe shoudln't be in there. I just fixed quickly | 02:39 |
| crimsun | hub: then the <= is wrong | 02:40 |
| zakame | should then be (= ${Source-Version}) | 02:41 |
| crimsun | the <= makes it so that having glabels-data 2.0.2-3 installed allows a upgrade of glabels from 2.0.2-3 to 2.1.1-2 | 02:42 |
| crimsun | without an accompanying upgrade of glabels-data | 02:42 |
| crimsun | 2.1.1-1, sorry | 02:42 |
| hub | crimsun: gah.... the control on REVU is not the one I have in my Emacs buffer | 02:42 |
| hub | crimsun: weird | 02:42 |
| zakame | hub: hihi | 02:42 |
| LaserJock | how do you get dput to include the .orig.tar.gz? | 02:43 |
| zakame | LaserJock: it should, unless its already uploaded, if that's the case, then its a dput -f ... | 02:43 |
| LaserJock | zakame: didn't work for me | 02:44 |
| hub | crimsun: I'll upload it again | 02:44 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: -sa need to be passed to dpkg-buildpackage | 02:45 |
| crimsun | needs^ | 02:45 |
| hub | I know why | 02:45 |
| crimsun | sorry, my wifi connection is extremely lagged | 02:45 |
| hub | stupid control.in | 02:45 |
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| hub | crimsun: the package I had uploaded didn't have the change | 02:47 |
| hub | :-/ | 02:47 |
| crimsun | ok | 02:47 |
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| zakame | wb bmonty | 03:05 |
| bmonty | hi everyone | 03:05 |
| bmonty | hi zakame | 03:05 |
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| zul | evening | 03:12 |
| crimsun | lo zul | 03:13 |
| zakame | hey zul | 03:13 |
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| bmonty | hey bddebian | 03:15 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:15 |
| zakame | wb bddebian | 03:15 |
| bddebian | How's it going bmonty ? | 03:15 |
| bddebian | Hello zakame | 03:15 |
| bmonty | bddebian: good, I got a new family member since I talked to you last :) | 03:16 |
| bddebian | Oh yeah? | 03:16 |
| bddebian | Boy or girl? | 03:16 |
| bmonty | bddebian: boy | 03:16 |
| bddebian | Cool, congrats | 03:16 |
| bmonty | thankfully! | 03:16 |
| bmonty | thanks | 03:16 |
| bddebian | Thankfully? Heh, I got 3 girls :-) | 03:17 |
| zakame | bmonty: wow, congrats :) | 03:17 |
| bmonty | bddebian: yeah, I'm not sure I want a girl based on what the guys I work with tell me about their daughters | 03:17 |
| bmonty | zakame: thanks :) | 03:18 |
| bddebian | bmonty: Aye ;-) | 03:18 |
| bmonty | brb | 03:20 |
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| crimsun | boys and girls are handfuls in their own ways, heh | 03:22 |
| bddebian | Heya crimsun | 03:22 |
| crimsun | heya bddebian, how're things? | 03:22 |
| bddebian | Busy :-( | 03:22 |
| crimsun | yeah, I hear that | 03:22 |
| bddebian | This "work" stuff is for the birds :-) | 03:23 |
| crimsun | :-) | 03:24 |
| dredg | come work here :) we get fed. and beered. and stuff. | 03:28 |
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| crimsun | (might I add that it's darned difficult to work for that company...) | 03:31 |
| bddebian | dredg: Well hire me then :-) | 03:32 |
| dredg | bddebian: send me your resume/cv | 03:32 |
| bddebian | Bah, I have no sk1llz ;-) | 03:33 |
| crimsun | better hide your karma then :p | 03:33 |
| ajmitch | evening | 03:34 |
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| crimsun | lo ajmitch | 03:34 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 03:34 |
| bddebian | crimsun: I haven't gotten any karma in like 3 weeks :'-( | 03:34 |
| bddebian | So how was UBZ? | 03:34 |
| ajmitch | oh, it was ok | 03:35 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: got any more laptops? ;) | 03:35 |
| zakame | hi ajmitch | 03:35 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: I still have the one I was gonna send ya. Why? :-) | 03:35 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: And why just OK? | 03:35 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: because mine was stolen | 03:36 |
| zakame | ajmitch: stolen? | 03:36 |
| ajmitch | yes | 03:36 |
| ajmitch | that is what I said | 03:36 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: :'-( | 03:36 |
| zakame | ajmitch: awww | 03:37 |
| zul | crappy hotel security | 03:37 |
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| bmonty | damn, I thought the ajmitch sticker on the bottom of the laptop I just bought off ebay was a coincidence | 03:37 |
| Kyral | mwahaha | 03:37 |
| ajmitch | heh | 03:37 |
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| zakame | wb hunger | 03:38 |
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| bmonty | hey LaserJock | 03:41 |
| LaserJock | hi bmonty | 03:41 |
| zakame | wb LaserJock | 03:41 |
| LaserJock | aren't you supposed to get an email after you upload to REVU? | 03:41 |
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| bmonty | I don't think so, it just shows up on the page | 03:43 |
| zakame | I've done an upload twice now, and I haven't received any email yet | 03:43 |
| zakame | bbl | 03:43 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: btw I'm at a friend's place in the US | 03:44 |
| ajmitch | not too far from you, anyway ;) | 03:44 |
| bddebian | Oh no, not the EVIL US ;-P | 03:44 |
| bddebian | Whereabouts? | 03:44 |
| ajmitch | NY | 03:45 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: Hi! haven't seen you around for a while ;-) | 03:45 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock . I know been stuck in RL job :-( | 03:45 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Cool, so when you coming by? :-) | 03:46 |
| LaserJock | does each upload to REVU have to have a new version number? | 03:46 |
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| bddebian | LaserJock: I dunno :-( | 03:46 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: well since my wallet was stolen too, I'm a little short on $$ :P | 03:46 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Here or in Canuckistan? | 03:47 |
| Kyral | yo | 03:47 |
| zul | ajmitch: dude you are full of bad luck | 03:47 |
| ajmitch | the restaurant at the end of the^W^W^Whotel | 03:47 |
| ajmitch | zul: it was in the laptop bag, with my camera also | 03:47 |
| Arrogance | we don't have theft in Canada. It must've been a US tourist | 03:47 |
| ajmitch | I was just 1 of 3 to have theirs stolen :) | 03:47 |
| Kyral | ....why is everyone looking at me | 03:48 |
| Kyral | ;P | 03:48 |
| bddebian | Man, that sucks | 03:48 |
| bddebian | Hello Kyral | 03:48 |
| ajmitch | because you took off awfully quickly | 03:48 |
| Kyral | I had an EXAM the next day! | 03:48 |
| ajmitch | no excuse | 03:48 |
| Kyral | Damn good excuse when you consider its the class I'm doing worse in | 03:49 |
| Kyral | Hey bddebian, long time no see | 03:55 |
| Kyral | LaserJock, can you have the FlowDevelop devs email me? | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: do you want something from them? | 04:06 |
| Kyral | Nah just want to open the channel :P | 04:06 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: ok | 04:07 |
| Kyral | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1931514941/qid=1131419259/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-5872496-2897745?v=glance&s=books <---YEA! | 04:08 |
| Kyral | hmm, 10 bucks a book, and 14 volumes... | 04:11 |
| Kyral | hmm :D | 04:12 |
| Kyral | Its the ultimate sign of respect for me to actually buy something I already downloaded :D | 04:12 |
| bmonty | is that cartoon pr0n or something? | 04:14 |
| Kyral | Nah | 04:15 |
| Kyral | very Ecchi, but not Hentai | 04:15 |
| Kyral | Its Manga | 04:15 |
| Kyral | Love Hina ranks around one of my favs :D | 04:15 |
| Kyral | Along with Rurouni Kenshin, and the 30 year old Gundam metaseries | 04:16 |
| LaserJock | what kind of things can you do when you log in to REVU? | 04:23 |
| bmonty | LaserJock: make comments on your own uploads | 04:24 |
| Kyral | Yah I need help with that POS Gnome-RDP program | 04:25 |
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| LaserJock | well, I made my first upload to REVU today. | 04:35 |
| bmonty | nice, which package? | 04:36 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Nice | 04:36 |
| LaserJock | but I haven't gotten an email so I can't make comments. Hopefully that will happen sometime soon | 04:36 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: How long you going to be in NY? | 04:36 |
| LaserJock | plotdrop | 04:36 |
| Kyral | Really Mitch is gonna be in my state? | 04:36 |
| bmonty | LaserJock: just type your email with no password in the logon and the use the password recovery link | 04:36 |
| Kyral | ooooo | 04:36 |
| LaserJock | bmonty: ahhh | 04:36 |
| Kyral | Swing by Potsdam NY on your way south :D | 04:37 |
| LaserJock | bmonty: thanks, that worked like a charm ;-) | 04:39 |
| bmonty | LaserJock: np | 04:39 |
| bmonty | that stumped me for awhile until someone told me how :) | 04:39 |
| LaserJock | now I just need some reviewers to look at it *hint* | 04:39 |
| Kyral | yah and at FlowDevelop | 04:40 |
| Kyral | then the MOTUScience team can have its first Releases :D | 04:40 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: slomo said he was going to look at it | 04:41 |
| Kyral | Yah but I'm impatient ;P | 04:41 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: going to be around the state until the 14th or so | 04:41 |
| LaserJock | well, I know that the MOTU are really busy coming from UBZ and probably have better things to do. But it sure would be nice | 04:42 |
| Kyral | yah ;P | 04:42 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch: Hmm, I should try to get the lappy to you while you are here, it would be easier. | 04:43 |
| Kyral | I so love developement cycles | 05:03 |
| Kyral | multiple updates a day, you never know what may break next. Keeps life fun :D | 05:03 |
| bmonty | good night everyone | 05:04 |
| Kyral | cya | 05:04 |
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| LaserJock | yeah? | 05:11 |
| Kyral | Check out the Lintain data for your package | 05:11 |
| LaserJock | yeah? | 05:12 |
| Kyral | You can fix it by setting standards version in control to 3.6.2 | 05:12 |
| LaserJock | what about the second one? | 05:13 |
| LaserJock | build-depends-without-arch-dep | 05:13 |
| Kyral | and changing arch to "any" | 05:13 |
| Kyral | or all | 05:13 |
| Kyral | whichever it isn't now ;P | 05:13 |
| Kyral | any | 05:13 |
| LaserJock | yeah, ok cool | 05:14 |
| LaserJock | I gotta go now. I will c you all later | 05:14 |
| LaserJock | thanks for the heads up Kyral. i will email the FlowDesigner devs for you | 05:14 |
| Kyral | I get the pain in the arse NMU errors | 05:15 |
| crimsun | Kyral: those NMUs are safely ignored | 05:23 |
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| Kyral | What bothers me more is the lintain errors being generated at the build stage | 05:52 |
| minghua | lintian errors at build stage? | 05:53 |
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| Kyral | or like after it was built | 05:53 |
| Kyral | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=872 | 05:54 |
| Kyral | checkout the Lintian entry at the bottom | 05:54 |
| Kyral | I think its generating a lib that I wasn't expecting | 05:55 |
| minghua | Kyral: wow, that's a _lot_ of lintian warnings | 05:57 |
| minghua | Kyral: W: flowdesigner: unknown-section dev | 05:57 |
| Kyral | yah | 05:57 |
| Kyral | but look what was generating most of them | 05:57 |
| minghua | Kyral: this one is easy to fix, it should be either devel or libdevel | 05:57 |
| Kyral | its making a library | 05:57 |
| Kyral | that I wasn't expecting | 05:58 |
| Kyral | E: flowdesigner: no-shlibs-control-file usr/lib/libflow-0.9.so | 05:58 |
| Kyral | Anyway I have to go to bed | 05:59 |
| Kyral | 8 AM class | 05:59 |
| Kyral | if anyone has any tips on how to fix it, leave it in the Review area for the package | 05:59 |
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| pef | hello | 08:13 |
| minghua | hi pef | 08:15 |
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| zakame | hello | 08:24 |
| poningru | hey | 08:31 |
| zakame | what's up? | 08:31 |
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| zyga | hello | 09:55 |
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| zakame | make hell.o all | 10:16 |
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| zakame | wb hunger | 11:10 |
| lucas | zyga: you subscribed to the debian-ruby ml ? | 11:11 |
| zyga | lucas: no I was busy lately and I do little FOSS stuff | 11:13 |
| zyga | lucas: can you fwd me the mailing addr so that I can subscribe? | 11:13 |
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| lucas | debian-ruby@lists.debian.org | 11:18 |
| lucas | go to http://lists.debian.org | 11:18 |
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| lucas | zyga: what's your email ? | 11:24 |
| lucas | I'll Cc you on sthing rubygems-related | 11:24 |
| Lathiat | lathi<t@bur.st tooplease | 11:25 |
| zyga | thanks | 11:25 |
| Lathiat | err | 11:25 |
| Lathiat | lathiat@bur.st | 11:25 |
| lucas | mail sent | 11:27 |
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| zyga | lucas: got it, thanks | 11:40 |
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| janimo | hello all | 12:34 |
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| hunger | seb128: And already back on IRC. That is true commitment! | 01:25 |
| \sh | siretart: ping | 01:26 |
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| pef | can someone have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=868 ? | 01:31 |
| freeflying | pef:what's the matter | 01:32 |
| pef | freeflying: just having a look for errors I haven't see | 01:33 |
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| freeflying | pefdoublecheck that the most recent entry in the changelog | 01:35 |
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| pef | freeflying: seems ok for me | 01:36 |
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| freeflying | pef:dose mixxx included in debian | 01:38 |
| pef | freeflying: yep, but not yet in Ubuntu | 01:39 |
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| freeflying | pef:would you mind me to reaad your changelog file | 01:40 |
| zakame | hi all :D | 01:40 |
| zakame | can somebody revu my package? :) | 01:40 |
| pef | zakame: url maybe ? :D | 01:40 |
| zakame | pef: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=863 | 01:41 |
| \sh | MERGING TIME | 01:42 |
| pef | zakame: the diff file contains autotools-dev stuff :/ (Makefile.in, aclocal.m4, etc), and it shouldn't | 01:42 |
| zakame | pef: of course, I updated it :) | 01:42 |
| zakame | pef: its a NEW package, so I have the luxury of building ./debian and updating from scratch :) | 01:43 |
| slomo_ | \sh: are bugreports already filed by MoM? | 01:43 |
| slomo_ | \sh: or will we got none this time? | 01:43 |
| \sh | slomo_: check the bugzille...search for require merging | 01:45 |
| slomo_ | \sh: oh, yes finally... :) | 01:45 |
| \sh | i'm starting tomorrow with it...after I reaaranged my desk here... | 01:46 |
| slomo_ | I'll do some everytime i have some free time ;) | 01:47 |
| \sh | well we don't have much time | 01:48 |
| slomo_ | well, i have ~10 "freistunden" per week and a weekend ;) | 01:49 |
| Nafallo | washes and prepare for father's day first :-P | 01:50 |
| siretart | \sh: pong (but I'm at work right now) | 01:51 |
| siretart | merging bugs at bugzilla? | 01:52 |
| \sh | siretart: did u have a good flight back home? | 01:52 |
| \sh | siretart: yepp | 01:52 |
| siretart | \sh: yeah, it was okay. I slept the way home ;) | 01:52 |
| siretart | w0t | 01:52 |
| siretart | w00t | 01:52 |
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| siretart | lets check the link on the wiki | 01:53 |
| siretart | https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=UPSTREAM&bug_status=PENDINGUPLOAD&field0-0-0=product&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=merging&field0-0-1=component&type0-0-1=substring&value0-0-1=merging&field0-0-2=short_desc&type0-0-2=substring&value0-0-2=merging&field0-0-3=status_whiteboard&type0-0-3=substring&value0-0-3=merging | 01:53 |
| Nafallo | ouch. tinyurl -> topic? :-P | 01:53 |
| siretart | yepp | 01:53 |
| \sh | siretart: i missed my connection flight to cologne | 01:54 |
| siretart | \sh: fuck! | 01:54 |
| siretart | \sh: so what happened next? | 01:54 |
| \sh | siretart: and then I had to take the train (they changed the booking) | 01:54 |
| siretart | \sh: even better :) | 01:54 |
| \sh | siretart: and when I wanted to claim my luggage at cologne central station, it wasn't there...they didn't board it on the train | 01:54 |
| siretart | \sh: so did you get your luggage in the end? | 01:55 |
| === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o siretart] by ChanServ | ||
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:siretart] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | TOP PRIO: Merging: http://tinyurl.com/auu5d | somebody please help writing up the MOTU report: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUReportDraft | ||
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| siretart | Nafallo: done ;) | 01:56 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 01:56 |
| zakame | siretart: w00t | 01:56 |
| siretart | \sh: is it possible that this is only for main, not for universe? | 01:57 |
| Nafallo | ehm, is it just me or is gnome-media version 2.12.O-0ubuntu2 atm? :-P | 01:57 |
| \sh | siretart: does it matter for u? :) | 01:58 |
| siretart | \sh: I'm not in the keyring yet :/ | 01:58 |
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| \sh | siretart: only a matter of time... | 02:00 |
| siretart | yeah, I know | 02:00 |
| magnon | *yaaawn* | 02:00 |
| magnon | I just got up | 02:00 |
| zakame | hi magnon | 02:01 |
| magnon | funny thing is, it's now 8 in montreal | 02:01 |
| magnon | :( | 02:01 |
| siretart | morning magnon! | 02:01 |
| \sh | morning magnon | 02:01 |
| magnon | morning folks | 02:01 |
| \sh | lunch time btw | 02:01 |
| at1as | g'mornin' all | 02:02 |
| zakame | may I pose a motu n00b question: how does merging work? :p | 02:03 |
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| magnon | does anybody have about 10m$ I could borrow for my competitive ubuntu applestore which I'm having great ideas for this morning? :P | 02:03 |
| magnon | zakame: you take 1 and 2, put them together, hope that it works | 02:04 |
| magnon | in this case 1 would be a debian package and 2 would be ubuntu changes | 02:04 |
| siretart | zakame: by comparing the ubuntu patched to what has changed in debian in that time | 02:04 |
| siretart | zakame: after that, you merge all patches together and prepare an upload. done | 02:05 |
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| zakame | siretart, magnon : i see. So changes in debian that aren't in ubuntu get merged in, and assuming all's well, the pkg is injected back into the archive. Am I correct? | 02:06 |
| siretart | zakame: in principle, yes | 02:06 |
| magnon | you could always read the mom source code too :) | 02:07 |
| siretart | magnon: if you could | 02:07 |
| siretart | magnon: mom is part of hct, which has not been released yet | 02:07 |
| zakame | how about ubuntu changes that can be useful in debian? are they forwarded to utnubu? | 02:07 |
| Nafallo | debian bugs | 02:08 |
| magnon | siretart: oh, dang. forgot | 02:09 |
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| \sh | zakame: no..actually u have to file a bug at the debian bts..or wait until the utnubu guys grabbing the patches | 02:09 |
| dtf | Hey all, was wonder what the MOTU thoughts are on packaging firefox extensions and themes | 02:09 |
| zakame | \sh: ah | 02:10 |
| \sh | dtf: for this...talk to dieziet (ian jackson) | 02:10 |
| siretart | zakame: http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge is quite helpful for this | 02:10 |
| zakame | siretart: checking it out, thanks :) | 02:11 |
| magnon | time for lunch, see you | 02:11 |
| dtf | sh: been talking to him I'm looking to present him with a list of pro and cons for a decision on how to handle installs/update | 02:12 |
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| \sh | dtf: I would like to see this as well...from a developer perspective... | 02:13 |
| zakame | magnon, siretart, \sh : thanks :) | 02:14 |
| dtf | \sh: ok I'll put together a wiki page with my thoughts and open it for comments | 02:15 |
| \sh | dtf: right a small spec :) | 02:16 |
| \sh | dtf: s/right/write/ | 02:16 |
| \sh | dtf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpecSpec | 02:16 |
| \sh | add this spec url to your LP account | 02:16 |
| dtf | \sh woohoo my first ubuntu braindump | 02:17 |
| \sh | dtf: good that I don't have to review it :) | 02:17 |
| Nafallo | siretart: how to make that list show only universe? :-) | 02:18 |
| siretart | Nafallo: I think there are now universe packages in that list yet | 02:19 |
| Nafallo | even more so then :-P | 02:19 |
| siretart | s/now/none at all/ | 02:19 |
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| zakame | wb all | 02:21 |
| \sh | ok...universe should be processed by MoM too | 02:22 |
| siretart | they are, but I didn't see universe bugs yet | 02:22 |
| \sh | yeah | 02:23 |
| \sh | theres no way to file the bugs for universe | 02:23 |
| siretart | we did for breezy | 02:23 |
| siretart | against the UNKNOWN component | 02:24 |
| \sh | btw....anyone who is interessted how MoM is looking....http://photos.shermann.blogweb.de/main.php/v/ubz/20051031/P1000097.JPG.html | 02:24 |
| \sh | siretart: but this time...there is malone | 02:24 |
| \sh | grep http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/LOGS/mom.20051107.log for universe... | 02:26 |
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| \sh | and http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/LOGS/mom.20051107b.log | 02:28 |
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| hunger | Anybody got some time to look over some newbies first set of debs later tonight? | 02:44 |
| hunger | They are not coplete yet, but it would be nice to know whether I am on the proper track. | 02:44 |
| zakame | wb hunger | 02:45 |
| hunger | zakame: Sorry... this ISP really sucks! | 02:45 |
| hunger | Can't keep a connection for more than about 2h at a time:-( | 02:45 |
| zakame | hunger: awww | 02:46 |
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| zakame | wb thesaltydog | 02:48 |
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| zakame | wb pef | 03:24 |
| pef | :) | 03:24 |
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| Tonio_ | zakame: hello | 03:58 |
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| \sh | motus, please read all ubuntu-devel-announce | 04:11 |
| \sh | if you are not subscribed do it NOW | 04:11 |
| \sh | regarding the CC meeting from today, we have to prospose at least 3 people for motu leadership to the next CC meeting | 04:12 |
| \sh | please read the ubuntu-devel-announce ml | 04:12 |
| \sh | thx | 04:12 |
| Yagisan | \sh: is it in the digest ? | 04:12 |
| zakame | ok | 04:12 |
| bhuvan | \sh: lighting fast | 04:12 |
| \sh | Yagisan: will be ...sabdfl writes a wrap up for the list | 04:12 |
| \sh | so actually we should hold another motu meeting soon | 04:13 |
| Yagisan | \sh: OK, I'll get that soon then. /me heads off to add another list to my bulging mailbox | 04:13 |
| Nafallo | hm | 04:14 |
| Nafallo | \sh: they don't like ogra and dholbach anymore? :-P | 04:15 |
| \sh | Nafallo: ogra and dholbach are not the formal leads of motu | 04:15 |
| Nafallo | ehm oki... | 04:15 |
| \sh | Nafallo: they were setup by sabdfl..now we need formal nominations for the official team lead | 04:16 |
| Nafallo | aha | 04:16 |
| \sh | Nafallo: everything else you should read of the post on the list | 04:16 |
| \sh | it has to do with membership nominations etc. | 04:16 |
| Nafallo | haven't got it yet :-P | 04:16 |
| \sh | Nafallo: it's not over yet... | 04:16 |
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| \sh | Nafallo: it will come :) | 04:17 |
| zakame | wb dholbach | 04:17 |
| hub | hey dholbach | 04:17 |
| Nafallo | morning dholbach :-) | 04:17 |
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| dholbach | hi zakame, hi everybody else | 04:17 |
| dholbach | Nafallo: morning... or whatever | 04:17 |
| dholbach | *confused* | 04:18 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 04:18 |
| \sh | dholbach: welcome back home | 04:18 |
| \sh | dholbach: u just missed a very important decision of the CC | 04:18 |
| dholbach | \sh: which one? | 04:19 |
| Nafallo | dholbach: they want to replace you ;-) | 04:19 |
| dholbach | oh nice | 04:19 |
| \sh | membership nominations have to be done by the TEAMs like the MOTUs...we can propose them to the CC or TB | 04:19 |
| \sh | but for this to happen we need a formal team lead of at least 3 ppl | 04:20 |
| \sh | which has to be approved by the MOTUs | 04:20 |
| \sh | until the next cc | 04:20 |
| dholbach | it's what we always did in the nominations | 04:20 |
| dholbach | we always suggested them as a team | 04:20 |
| \sh | no. | 04:20 |
| dholbach | everybody had his say | 04:20 |
| \sh | Member Nominations | 04:20 |
| dholbach | both | 04:20 |
| \sh | not MOTU upload rights | 04:20 |
| \sh | yes | 04:20 |
| dholbach | ? | 04:20 |
| \sh | but now, the nominations has to come from 3 ppl out of the team | 04:21 |
| siretart | need to go now | 04:21 |
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| dholbach | it makes sense to formalize it | 04:21 |
| dholbach | but it's what we always did | 04:21 |
| dholbach | so it's alright for me :) | 04:21 |
| bhuvan | \sh: better suggest to go through the logs :) | 04:21 |
| \sh | bhuvan: no...I want to read it as well from sabdfl | 04:21 |
| siretart | dholbach: there isn't that much difference in practical. it formalizes steps in a way to faciliate the nomination by the CC | 04:22 |
| bhuvan | exactly | 04:22 |
| dholbach | yeah siretart, that's how i see it | 04:22 |
| Nafallo | let's see. we need 3 team leaders that can nominate people to become members at the cc? | 04:22 |
| \sh | a team lead of 3 lets say it like this | 04:22 |
| dholbach | i'd be fine with 3 people from the team | 04:22 |
| siretart | dholbach: but we need to fix the 3 (maybe 4) ppl who actually do the checking for the nominations | 04:22 |
| dholbach | (and nobody saying 'no' to the nomination) | 04:23 |
| siretart | "fix" in the sense of "make it fix" | 04:23 |
| \sh | dholbach, siretart and ajmitch ( my proposal) | 04:23 |
| bhuvan | interesting :) | 04:23 |
| dholbach | do we need "leaders" who decide on this? | 04:23 |
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| dholbach | i shouldn't think so | 04:23 |
| siretart | dholbach: I thought you and ogra are the lead | 04:23 |
| \sh | dholbach: formalized leaders..who proposes the nomination towards the CC/TB | 04:23 |
| siretart | bhuvan: please deop yourself, we don't need ops here | 04:24 |
| Nafallo | hmm, I'll better wait for that letter :-P | 04:24 |
| dholbach | if we have 3 active people saying that they worked nicely with whoever the new motu is, and nobody stands up and says "no, he didnt do enough", that should suffice | 04:24 |
| bhuvan | ok :) | 04:24 |
| dholbach | siretart: his client makes the problem apparently | 04:24 |
| \sh | dholbach: membership..not motu upload rights | 04:24 |
| siretart | dholbach: so he should fix his client | 04:24 |
| Nafallo | \sh: as in ubuntu members, right? | 04:25 |
| \sh | Nafallo: yepp | 04:25 |
| dholbach | i don't like the idea... i trust any active motu enough to say that somebody else did enough good work | 04:25 |
| hunger | Is there some kind of sponsorship in ubuntu (like in debian)? | 04:25 |
| \sh | dholbach: too late | 04:25 |
| \sh | dholbach: it's already approved by CC | 04:25 |
| siretart | dholbach: define 'active motu' | 04:25 |
| zakame | hunger: no, but there is revu | 04:25 |
| dholbach | but everybody should feel free to say "no, not yet", if that's their opinion | 04:25 |
| siretart | dholbach: the proposal is about getting it more formal, you know | 04:26 |
| dholbach | siretart: i guess you have a gut feeling about everybody, if he's active or not | 04:26 |
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| siretart | dholbach: yes, but a 'gut feeling' is not formal in any way | 04:26 |
| dholbach | i don't like policies defining a number of uploads that has to be counted | 04:26 |
| siretart | dholbach: neither do I | 04:27 |
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| dholbach | "visibilitiy and activity" were always words who were good enough | 04:27 |
| dholbach | i absolutely don't inted to change that | 04:27 |
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| siretart | dholbach: the point is that the CC wants to improve the current MemberNomination Process | 04:27 |
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| dholbach | *nod* sure | 04:27 |
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| dholbach | but numbers or rigid definitions don't help there | 04:28 |
| siretart | dholbach: they do help, if they are sane | 04:28 |
| siretart | dholbach: nobody but you mentioned 'counting uploads' | 04:28 |
| siretart | dholbach: the proposal was that we define a group of motus who have to decide about a nomination. thats all | 04:29 |
| dholbach | then please help me by giving me a "definition", i could refer to | 04:29 |
| siretart | dholbach: in practice, there is not much difference to the current process | 04:29 |
| dholbach | hm | 04:29 |
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| siretart | the process is to be defined, not the amount of work an applicant has to do | 04:30 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:\sh] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | TOP PRIO: Merging: http://tinyurl.com/auu5d | somebody please help writing up the MOTU report: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUReportDraft/ | http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/LOGS/mom.20051107{b}.log - Grep for Universe for Universe Merges | ||
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| siretart | ;) | 04:30 |
| dholbach | fuck... still no motu report | 04:30 |
| \sh | yes | 04:30 |
| \sh | me too | 04:30 |
| siretart | anyway, need to go now. CU tomorrow! | 04:30 |
| zakame | motu report? | 04:30 |
| dholbach | see you siretart | 04:30 |
| zakame | bye siretart | 04:30 |
| dholbach | zakame: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUReport | 04:30 |
| zakame | dholbach: ooh | 04:31 |
| hub | dholbach: I have updated a couple of packages on REVU, including one to fix a bug in the Debian package | 04:32 |
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| dholbach | hub: nice | 04:32 |
| hunger | How can I request an "informal" revu? The debs are by far not finished, but I'd love to get some feedback on whether I am on the proper track. | 04:33 |
| selinium | Hi all, Do i need to be able to code python/C++ to be useful in the MOTU? | 04:33 |
| zakame | selinium: desirable, but not really imho :) | 04:33 |
| sladen | selinium: no | 04:34 |
| === hunger hopes python is not required! :-) | ||
| sladen | selinium: FWIW, I hate C++ :) | 04:34 |
| === zakame doesn't know much of many languages, just a bit of everything | ||
| hub | sladen: C++ is nice :-) | 04:35 |
| selinium | I am a 31 year old PHP programmer, I am about to start learning some python and some C++. | 04:35 |
| === hub has to learn Python still | ||
| selinium | Is it better to come back to the Motu when I am better equipped? | 04:35 |
| hunger | selinium: IMHO the only way to learn something is by doing it. | 04:35 |
| dholbach | selinium: i think you can learn quite a lot "on the fly" :) | 04:36 |
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| zakame | wb bhuvan | 04:36 |
| hunger | selinium: I am no motu myself, but I'll help if I can:-) | 04:36 |
| hub | selinium: I barely use my programming skill for packaging | 04:36 |
| zakame | selinium: consider it as on-the-job training :) | 04:36 |
| selinium | ok, how do I get onboard. I have signed the CoC and have a GPG.... | 04:36 |
| hunger | selinium: You will learn more about shell scripting and autotools than you ever wanted to when packaging;-) | 04:36 |
| selinium | I have installed pbuilder | 04:37 |
| hub | selinium: is you key signed? :-) | 04:37 |
| selinium | hunuger, cool! I really want to get my shell scripting up to speed | 04:37 |
| selinium | hub yep | 04:37 |
| selinium | hub, i think so... | 04:38 |
| hub | keyid? | 04:38 |
| hunger | hub: What does he need a signed key for? | 04:38 |
| selinium | hub, sorry, the CoC is signed. | 04:38 |
| zakame | selinium: shell and makefiles come in handy :) | 04:38 |
| hub | hunger: authenticate the key for the CoC signature, etc | 04:38 |
| hunger | hub: Isen't it more important to get some debs started? After all you need something to ign:-) | 04:38 |
| hub | hunger: at one point it will be needed. it is not a requirement for REVU | 04:39 |
| selinium | hub: 6779883A i think. https://launchpad.net/people/selinium | 04:40 |
| hunger | hub My key is signed... dunno whether it is signed by anybody known to the ubuntu crowed. | 04:40 |
| hunger | How does revu work? | 04:40 |
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| === Nafallo key is signed by Tollef :-) | ||
| zakame | selinium: cool gotchi :D | 04:41 |
| === hunger started rolling xen debs. Should probably started with something easier;-) | ||
| selinium | zakame, :) | 04:41 |
| selinium | zakame, pixelated a bit on resizing, which is a shame :) | 04:41 |
| zakame | selinium: hmm, didn't notice, it's all fine by me via 1280x960 :D | 04:42 |
| selinium | zakame, Cool :) | 04:42 |
| hub | hunger: I'm pretty sur your key should be fine with the # of signatures | 04:42 |
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| dholbach | hrm... that crazy nomination thing? was that "decided" today? | 04:43 |
| dholbach | i couldnt find it on the agenda | 04:43 |
| hunger | hub: That key was in the top50 of the most trustworthy keys for a while;-) | 04:44 |
| selinium | hub: is my key signed? | 04:44 |
| selinium | hub: how do I tell ? | 04:44 |
| hub | selinium: you should know if it is or not | 04:44 |
| hub | selinium: but I can tell it is not | 04:45 |
| hub | selinium: you need to meet people IRL to have it signed | 04:45 |
| selinium | hub: ok :) | 04:45 |
| hub | selinium: because they need to check you ID | 04:45 |
| selinium | Okay, Seveas, nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos all 'know' me from #ubuntu. | 04:47 |
| selinium | So what is the next step.... | 04:47 |
| hunger | Is it possible to upload something "not meant for use" into revu? | 04:47 |
| dholbach | what for? | 04:48 |
| zakame | hunger: hmmm, you could put a comment with something to that effect, but why upload at all? | 04:48 |
| hunger | zakame: Because I need some feedback whether I started on the proper track. | 04:48 |
| zakame | hunger: do you have your own webspace? 'coz if so you could just put your debs there and prolly kindly ask the people here to take a look at it | 04:50 |
| hunger | zakame: I never packaged something before and Xen is a huge beast. | 04:50 |
| hub | selinium: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey <- explain shortly about signing | 04:50 |
| hunger | zakame: There is a problem;-) | 04:50 |
| selinium | hub Cheers :) | 04:50 |
| hunger | zakame: ivoks volunteered to host the stuff once it becomes useable. Dunno whether the current state already counts. | 04:51 |
| hunger | I got the apps, hipervisor and libs packaged. I'll start on a kernel patch deb tonight. | 04:52 |
| zakame | hunger: wtg ! :D | 04:52 |
| selinium | OK anyone near London? :) | 04:53 |
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| hunger | Anyone got a debian kernel patch creation howto? | 04:56 |
| zakame | dh-kpatches | 04:57 |
| hunger | zakame: Thanks! | 04:58 |
| zakame | hunger: np ;D | 04:58 |
| zakame | hunger: if you use cdbs you can also take a look at quilt :) | 04:59 |
| hunger | zakame: I failed to grasp cdbs, so I settled for a multi. | 04:59 |
| hunger | zakame: Xen's build system is somewhat... inconsistent. | 05:00 |
| zakame | hunger: how come? | 05:00 |
| schweeb | cdbs is the only way to fly | 05:00 |
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| \sh | schweeb: bah | 05:01 |
| hunger | zakame: It is a code dumped together by different groups. | 05:01 |
| zakame | hunger: gaah | 05:01 |
| hunger | zakame: Some use "make all" to build, some "make build" and others go for just use "make install" stupid. | 05:01 |
| zakame | hunger: gaah, no wonder | 05:03 |
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| zakame | schweeb: is cdbs the only way? | 05:18 |
| schweeb | cdbs rocks. it's not exactly required, but it makes life not suck so much | 05:18 |
| Yagisan | dholbach: me either. How can they decide on something that wasn't even mentioned it was going to be discussed ? | 05:19 |
| zakame | i see... I've been using Manoj's debian-dir, which according to him is inspired by cdbs | 05:19 |
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| zakame | hmmm which MOTUTeam should I join? :) | 05:35 |
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| zakame | wb LaserJock | 05:45 |
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| hunger | Why would anyone BUY that?! | 05:45 |
| zakame | hunger: buwahaha | 05:45 |
| LaserJock | hi all | 05:46 |
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| LaserJock | when the mom log says "created bug ..." where is that bug? | 05:57 |
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| slomo | LaserJock: in bugzilla | 05:57 |
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| slomo | LaserJock: see topic | 05:58 |
| LaserJock | slomo: not malone? | 05:58 |
| slomo | no | 05:58 |
| LaserJock | ok, thanks | 05:59 |
| \sh | LaserJock: i posted the mom logs thx to keybuk | 06:02 |
| \sh | LaserJock: grep for universe and we'll get a list....i'll start tomorrow working on the list | 06:02 |
| hub | mom, the robot oil supplier? | 06:03 |
| \sh | MoM Merge O Matic | 06:03 |
| hub | \sh: I know. was a joke | 06:04 |
| hub | \sh: for those who know Futurama | 06:04 |
| \sh | hub: i know futurama..but I don't like it...even so, i'm a big simpsons fan :) | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | \sh: yeah, I saw the logs, I just didn't know where the bug reports were being sent. | 06:05 |
| hub | \sh: my hostname is "bender" | 06:05 |
| hub | \sh: you know it in English or dubbed? | 06:06 |
| \sh | Bender is the robit | 06:06 |
| hub | yep | 06:06 |
| \sh | -it+ot | 06:06 |
| hub | "bite my shiny metal ass ! meatbag !" | 06:06 |
| hub | (that was a quote) | 06:06 |
| \sh | i know it only in german...the simpson I watched some seasons in english | 06:06 |
| hub | \sh: maybe it lose a lot dubbed :-/ | 06:06 |
| hub | the Quebecquois version is horrible | 06:07 |
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| slomo | Riddell: ping? | 06:19 |
| Riddell | slomo: hi | 06:20 |
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| slomo | Riddell: taglib needs "merging"... or better, it can be synced with dropping ubuntu changes as debian only has cosmetic changes ;) can you take a short look at it and ask elmo for a sync? (i ask you as taglib is somewhat kde related) | 06:22 |
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| Riddell | slomo: will do (tomorrow probably) | 06:23 |
| slomo | Riddell: thanks... no need to hurry... it's only for getting automated syncs again :) and i just wanted to remove some work from you | 06:25 |
| \sh | elmo is still at ubz | 06:25 |
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| hub | can someone archive "http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=841" | 06:38 |
| hub | it is deprecated as Debian synced a more recent version | 06:38 |
| slomo | hub: sure | 06:38 |
| slomo | archived | 06:38 |
| hub | slomo: thx | 06:42 |
| hub | I may resurrect it later, I'll see | 06:42 |
| hub | no biggie | 06:42 |
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| LaserJock | I don't suppose there is a MOTU with nothing to do lurking about? | 07:59 |
| dholbach | LaserJock: what are you exactly trying to find out? | 08:00 |
| LaserJock | well, I was looking for somebody to review an upload to REVU but I don't want to be obnoxious | 08:01 |
| dholbach | which one is it? (i can do it in some minutes) | 08:01 |
| LaserJock | plotdrop | 08:02 |
| dholbach | right | 08:03 |
| dholbach | do it in some minutes | 08:03 |
| LaserJock | thanks, I know you guys are busy | 08:03 |
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| herve | hello | 08:08 |
| dholbach | hi herve | 08:08 |
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| \sh | hmmm.. | 08:20 |
| \sh | is berlios down? | 08:20 |
| slomo | yes | 08:21 |
| \sh | shit | 08:21 |
| \sh | how is the url for projects on berlios.de? (e.g. the equivalent of sf.net/projects/<projectname> | 08:22 |
| \sh | s/how/what/ | 08:23 |
| Amaranth | i think it's just developer.berlios.de/projectname | 08:23 |
| Amaranth | i can't get to berlios.de at all right now though | 08:24 |
| hub | can someone archive http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=878, it has been accepted to the archive | 08:24 |
| herve | hub, yes | 08:24 |
| herve | ... or I can't... | 08:25 |
| hub | herve: you can't | 08:26 |
| hub | herve: was more for slomo, \sh, dholbach | 08:26 |
| herve | seems like being reviewer is not enough | 08:26 |
| slomo | hub: just tell me the package name in the future ;) | 08:26 |
| hub | slomo: sorry. glabels | 08:27 |
| herve | strange, it has no advocate | 08:27 |
| herve | *ad* advocate mine ;-) | 08:28 |
| slomo | hub: done ;) | 08:28 |
| slomo | dholbach: i'll do some reviewing for revu on thursday... are there any priority items? | 08:29 |
| \sh | herve: what you can't do...u r motu ,) | 08:30 |
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| herve | \sh, upload in main! | 08:30 |
| \sh | herve: ah no :) u can't | 08:30 |
| dholbach | slomo: no, no idea (maybe some that have 1 vote already?) | 08:30 |
| slomo | dholbach: ok, i'll do 1-voters and updates first ;) | 08:31 |
| dholbach | rock | 08:31 |
| slomo | hub: why is autopano-swift for multiverse? | 08:31 |
| herve | ha, I can see on dapper-changes that UBZ is over :-) | 08:32 |
| slomo | dholbach: and some merges after i'm bored of reviewing ;) | 08:32 |
| dholbach | doing merges while doing bugs atm | 08:32 |
| dholbach | that should be a policy: "if you touch a package, see if you can merge it first" :) | 08:33 |
| slomo | dholbach: yes, definitly... maybe something to discuss at the next motu meeting ;) | 08:33 |
| dholbach | althought it should be a very natural thing to do | 08:34 |
| dholbach | not a policy | 08:34 |
| dholbach | i like people taught to do the right thing better than a big rulebook | 08:34 |
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| herve | yes, I did it just yesterday | 08:35 |
| slomo | dholbach: well, i'm doing it mostly now... (but forgot to do so some times already) ;) but a rule for that wouldn't hurt... we need some kind of reference anyway... not everybody knows everything ;) | 08:35 |
| dholbach | hmmmmmmm | 08:36 |
| dholbach | we'll end up with a big rulebook in the end ;)( | 08:36 |
| dholbach | but yeah, writing it up, doesnt hurt | 08:36 |
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| Kyral | hey all | 08:37 |
| slomo | dholbach: but as a first rule please add a link to the debian policy ;) that would save some work :P | 08:38 |
| dholbach | Mortas: UniverseDesktopFileAbsolutePath was your idea, right? | 08:38 |
| slomo | Kyral: hi :) | 08:38 |
| dholbach | slomo: diziet worked on the developer docs spec | 08:38 |
| === Kyral groans at the time for the next CC meeting | ||
| Kyral | I start vacation that day... | 08:39 |
| slomo | Kyral: hehe, you proposed yourself as member? :) | 08:39 |
| Kyral | No, I was gonna see when the meeting was before I did :P | 08:40 |
| dholbach | herve: it's not over yet | 08:40 |
| Kyral | I was groaning because I won't be able to this time around again | 08:40 |
| dholbach | herve: only for most of the distro team | 08:40 |
| Kyral | I mean I MIGHT get home in time, but I'd need to QUICKLY setup my laptop | 08:40 |
| slomo | dholbach: and sadly not for elmo... he has probably 10-15 sync request by me in his mailbox ;) he won't be happy when he looks at his mailbox after ubz | 08:41 |
| dholbach | slomo: i suppose he had worse tasks | 08:42 |
| herve | plus one from me :-) | 08:42 |
| dholbach | what syncs are those? some which override our changes? | 08:43 |
| herve | yes, bugfixes merged by Debian for instance | 08:44 |
| slomo | dholbach: most of them, yes... the only exception are two (or three?) NEW packages | 08:44 |
| dholbach | slomo: we'd get them in automatically, no? | 08:44 |
| dholbach | slomo: the new ones | 08:45 |
| slomo | dholbach: NEW ones? no... at least we didn't get them yet | 08:45 |
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| dholbach | we should get them automatically | 08:46 |
| herve | not with "ubuntu" in the revision? | 08:46 |
| dholbach | i don't understand | 08:47 |
| slomo | dholbach: hmm... afaik the auto syncing only works on packages which are already in ubuntu | 08:47 |
| dholbach | no, don't think so | 08:47 |
| slomo | hmm, let's ask elmo ;) | 08:47 |
| \sh | phew | 08:47 |
| \sh | this was a long mail | 08:47 |
| \sh | to write | 08:47 |
| slomo | \sh: berlios is up again :) | 08:48 |
| \sh | slomo: well...now I don't need it anymore :) | 08:48 |
| slomo | lol | 08:48 |
| slomo | ok :) | 08:48 |
| slomo | but i still need it ;) | 08:48 |
| schweeb | I'm siding with dholbach on this one | 08:49 |
| schweeb | I'm under the impression that everything gets synched (except for packages that are intentionally excluded) | 08:50 |
| slomo | well... pitti doesn't know it too ;) | 08:51 |
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| sladen | funny, lemo is discussing that exact same sisue at the moment on this table | 08:55 |
| sladen | elmo | 08:55 |
| \sh | sladen: move to this table and write life | 08:56 |
| \sh | vgrn# | 08:56 |
| \sh | live | 08:56 |
| sladen | hehe | 08:56 |
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| \sh | sladen: it was impressing what u tried at the motu meeting...:) | 08:58 |
| slomo | sladen: hehe, it's sufficient when you write down the conclusions ;) | 08:59 |
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| sladen | <elmo> screw you hippie | 09:02 |
| \sh | hahaha | 09:03 |
| Kyral | Can someone help me decipher some Lintain errors? | 09:05 |
| slomo | Kyral: sure | 09:05 |
| Kyral | http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/flowdesigner-0511052140/flowdesigner_0.9.0-0ubuntu1_i386.lintian | 09:06 |
| Kyral | the errors about shlibs | 09:06 |
| slomo | omg | 09:07 |
| Kyral | Its building its own lib that I didn't expect | 09:07 |
| slomo | whiprush: flowdesigner: script-not-executable ./usr/share/flowdesigner/examples/dtmf.n | 09:07 |
| slomo | whiprush: flowdesigner: unusual-interpreter ./usr/share/flowdesigner/examples/dtmf.n #!batchflow | 09:07 |
| slomo | add overrides for these | 09:07 |
| herve | ha, there's some -fPIC missing | 09:07 |
| Kyral | how? | 09:07 |
| Kyral | call the dh_makeshlibs helper? | 09:08 |
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| slomo | uh, i never saw that many lintian errors/warnings at once :) | 09:08 |
| herve | "description-starts-with-package-name" <- this one is easy to fix | 09:08 |
| sistpoty | hi folks | 09:08 |
| herve | and written in the debian policy | 09:08 |
| slomo | Kyral: do you call it already? dh_makeshlibs i mean | 09:08 |
| slomo | hi sistpoty | 09:08 |
| herve | hi sistpoty | 09:08 |
| Kyral | Yah I know that, I wanna nail the damn lib error :P | 09:08 |
| Kyral | slomo, no | 09:08 |
| slomo | Kyral: ok... first... | 09:09 |
| Kyral | But I can uncomment it in rules :D | 09:09 |
| slomo | split the package | 09:09 |
| Kyral | how? | 09:09 |
| herve | siretart, ping | 09:09 |
| slomo | Kyral: oh wait... | 09:09 |
| slomo | what is this lib good for? only internal use? | 09:09 |
| Kyral | I think so | 09:09 |
| herve | well, someone else could answer | 09:09 |
| herve | and empty lintian or linda file on revu really means there's no error or warning? | 09:10 |
| slomo | and tell these guys to use SONAME the right way... | 09:10 |
| slomo | herve: yes | 09:10 |
| Kyral | whats SONAME? | 09:10 |
| herve | then... woohoo! | 09:10 |
| slomo | Kyral: when it's internal only they should put it somewhere else or make a good soname ;) | 09:11 |
| slomo | Kyral: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html | 09:11 |
| slomo | Kyral: this will solve your problems with the libs ;) | 09:11 |
| Kyral | isn't being put under /usr/lib/packagename now? | 09:11 |
| slomo | E: flowdesigner: no-shlibs-control-file usr/lib/libflow-0.9.so | 09:12 |
| slomo | E: flowdesigner: postinst-must-call-ldconfig usr/lib/libflow-0.9.so | 09:12 |
| slomo | whiprush: flowdesigner: postrm-should-call-ldconfig usr/lib/libflow-0.9.so | 09:12 |
| slomo | no | 09:12 |
| slomo | hmm... why does it complete to whiprush?! | 09:12 |
| slomo | whiprush: *test* | 09:12 |
| slomo | wtf | 09:12 |
| slomo | xchat autocompletes "W :" | 09:13 |
| Kyral | ???? | 09:13 |
| \sh | hahaha | 09:13 |
| herve | slomo, xchat automatic completion | 09:13 |
| \sh | xchat is crap with this nick completion | 09:13 |
| slomo | Kyral: what are the ? for? ;) | 09:13 |
| Kyral | So should I just patch it? | 09:13 |
| hub | slomo: autpano-sift is restricted by patents in the US... | 09:13 |
| Kyral | I didn't know what you were talking about ;P | 09:13 |
| hub | slomo: but if it is fine in universe, it is perfectly fine with me | 09:13 |
| Kyral | slomo, would calling dh_makeshlibs fix this? | 09:14 |
| slomo | Kyral: no... package it correctly and tell these guys to use proper soname for their lib in /usr/lib... or put it somewhere else | 09:14 |
| slomo | Kyral: partially | 09:14 |
| whiprush | heh | 09:14 |
| slomo | hub: patents on what exactly? ;) | 09:14 |
| hub | slomo: the SIFT algorithm | 09:14 |
| slomo | Kyral: read http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html please... there you will find all answers for the libs | 09:15 |
| hub | slomo: the university of British Columbia applied for it in the U.S. | 09:15 |
| Kyral | I'm gonna comment out dh_installman | 09:15 |
| hub | slomo: it is mentionned in the copyright file | 09:15 |
| slomo | Kyral: why? | 09:15 |
| Kyral | it doesn't HAVE a manpage | 09:15 |
| slomo | Kyral: it won't hurt | 09:15 |
| slomo | Kyral: better concentrate on the real problems ;) | 09:15 |
| Kyral | It will stop those warnings at the beginnings :P | 09:16 |
| slomo | no | 09:16 |
| slomo | these warnings are correct | 09:16 |
| Kyral | oh, what is the proper section? | 09:16 |
| slomo | every binary should have a manpage | 09:16 |
| \sh | Kyral: write the manpage | 09:17 |
| slomo | Kyral: it isn't _needed_ but better to have one | 09:17 |
| Kyral | umm....1) I have no clue how it works | 09:17 |
| slomo | Kyral: section would be devel | 09:17 |
| Kyral | 2) I have no clue how to write a manpage ;P | 09:17 |
| \sh | Kyral: ever heard of docbook? | 09:18 |
| Kyral | yah | 09:18 |
| herve | Kyral, do as I do, copy one and change the text ;-) | 09:18 |
| slomo | Kyral: you can convert docbook to manpage via xslt ;) | 09:18 |
| slomo | Kyral: but concentrate on the lib issue first please... the other stuff is easy to do :P | 09:18 |
| \sh | Kyral: so...if you do a clean dh_make call in a stupid dir....then u get a docbook manpage template | 09:19 |
| \sh | Kyral: which u can change...and translate with docbook2man towards a real manpage... | 09:19 |
| Kyral | ahh | 09:19 |
| \sh | its easy and nice | 09:19 |
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| at1as | 09:19 | |
| \sh | wuahhahah....the earth is falling down | 09:19 |
| slomo | Kyral: or look for example at my cowbell package... manpage in docbook-xml is there... and xslt call | 09:20 |
| \sh | noone there to hold the earth | 09:20 |
| slomo | \sh: ? | 09:20 |
| slomo | \sh: ah... lol =) | 09:20 |
| \sh | slomo: atlas said he's back | 09:20 |
| \sh | so he's not holding the earth anymore | 09:20 |
| \sh | slomo: bah...history :) | 09:20 |
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| slomo | \sh: history? mythology :P | 09:22 |
| \sh | slomo: actually it was "Hercules" ,) | 09:22 |
| dholbach | LaserJock: done | 09:23 |
| slomo | dholbach: you can assign avahi (including service-discovery-applet) bugs to the avahi team :) | 09:23 |
| dholbach | slomo: sorry... do you reassign? | 09:23 |
| slomo | dholbach: already done ;) | 09:24 |
| dholbach | rock on | 09:24 |
| slomo | dholbach: the 3 sda bugs will be solved with the next release... probably only waiting for avahi 0.6 | 09:25 |
| dholbach | cool | 09:25 |
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| ivoks | ok | 09:27 |
| ivoks | so, UBZ is over and it's time to work again | 09:27 |
| ivoks | :) | 09:27 |
| ivoks | guys that were at UBZ: are there any special news others should know? (i was quite busy these days and didn't read -devel carefully) | 09:28 |
| ivoks | hm... looks like i'll be your black sheep this release :) | 09:29 |
| herve | hello ivoks | 09:30 |
| ivoks | o, hi herve | 09:30 |
| ivoks | i hear a lot of news from france... you guys are making tourists reconsider their trip to french alps :) | 09:30 |
| \sh | ivoks: what do u want to hear? that we decided that ivoks is doing all merges? | 09:30 |
| \sh | that ivoks will get main upload and is doing all distro work? | 09:30 |
| ivoks | \sh: huh... that would the end of ubuntu :) | 09:31 |
| \sh | ivoks: well...no | 09:31 |
| \sh | ivoks: actually we have 6-8 weeks from now for new things and merges | 09:31 |
| herve | ivoks, we have the best internet access anyway ;-) | 09:32 |
| \sh | ivoks: then we have UVF and bugfixing | 09:32 |
| ivoks | ok | 09:32 |
| ivoks | so, this is shorter for dapper | 09:32 |
| ivoks | understandable... | 09:32 |
| ivoks | herve: :) | 09:32 |
| herve | \sh, you mean I have 6 weeks to get my package in dapper? | 09:33 |
| ivoks | \sh: thanks for the info, | 09:33 |
| \sh | ivoks:the open development yes...the bugfixing is at least 1 week longer so dapper will be released one week later then normal, and dapper+1 release schedule will be decreased by 1 week | 09:33 |
| \sh | herve: yes | 09:33 |
| herve | ouch | 09:33 |
| \sh | herve: but if they're not bringing in new main lib deps which are not there after 6 weeks...then we can do some special treatment | 09:33 |
| ivoks | interesting | 09:34 |
| \sh | the plan is, to stay with the main release schedule | 09:34 |
| \sh | at least for this release | 09:34 |
| \sh | but ubz was more...I love now having wifi | 09:34 |
| ivoks | \sh: more? | 09:35 |
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| \sh | Mirno: u don't need op status | 09:35 |
| ivoks | huh | 09:35 |
| herve | \sh, more wired? | 09:35 |
| slomo | sistpoty: will we also take languages like nemerle? ;) | 09:35 |
| Mirno | woops | 09:35 |
| === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o Mirno] by Mirno | ||
| \sh | herve: well...it was interesting to meet the other guys like ajmitch and sladen and siretart | 09:36 |
| \sh | and koke | 09:36 |
| Mirno | \sh: I needed it on another channels. an how did I get op here ? | 09:36 |
| \sh | and and and | 09:36 |
| \sh | Mirno: don't ask me..ask lilo | 09:36 |
| ivoks | Mirno: we don't get op here | 09:36 |
| ivoks | Mirno: we trust each other | 09:37 |
| dholbach | yay! :) | 09:37 |
| dholbach | it's the hug day again ;) | 09:37 |
| ivoks | :) | 09:37 |
| Mirno | ivoks: I uses /chansevr op all to op me on my channels (I needed to change some mods) and it oped me here .. I suppose you have a very low access level here | 09:37 |
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| Mirno | sorry anyway | 09:38 |
| herve | no problem | 09:38 |
| sistpoty | slomo: sure, why not | 09:39 |
| slomo | sistpoty: fine... i love this language =) | 09:39 |
| slomo | sistpoty: and i created a ml page | 09:39 |
| sistpoty | slomo: as long as no other team wants to take care for a language, why not list it there ;) | 09:39 |
| sistpoty | slomo: cool :) | 09:40 |
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| dholbach | slomo: want to have zeroconf bugs there too? | 09:40 |
| slomo | sistpoty: i'm the maintainer of one ml and the nemerle package ;) so no one else will care probably | 09:41 |
| slomo | dholbach: when it's avahi related yes... otherwise no | 09:41 |
| dholbach | hrm | 09:41 |
| slomo | dholbach: but better ask Lathiat | 09:42 |
| at1as | Where do I post bugs for Universe (like transcode)/ | 09:42 |
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| at1as | 09:42 | |
| at1as | ? | 09:42 |
| dholbach | i'll assign it to motu, nevermind | 09:42 |
| at1as | or xvid? | 09:42 |
| dholbach | at1as: http://launchpad.net/malone | 09:42 |
| slomo | at1as: malone... and assign to motumedia | 09:42 |
| slomo | sistpoty: did you already had a look at nemerle? | 09:43 |
| sistpoty | slomo: not yet | 09:44 |
| slomo | sistpoty: write it on your todo list ;) | 09:44 |
| crimsun | at1as: what's wrong with transcode? | 09:44 |
| sistpoty | slomo: sure... will do :) | 09:44 |
| slomo | sistpoty: nemerle page created :) | 09:50 |
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| sistpoty | slomo: good work :) | 09:51 |
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| slomo | sistpoty: thanks :) | 09:55 |
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| Kyral | hmm | 09:58 |
| Kyral | recompiling | 09:58 |
| Kyral | it said something about compiling with -fPIC | 09:58 |
| elektranox | hello, I want to make a package suggestion for Dapper Drake and the UbuntuUsers.de Team send me to you... | 09:59 |
| slomo | Kyral: what? | 09:59 |
| slomo | elektranox: tell us more :) | 09:59 |
| Kyral | when I hit the deb with lintain -vi | 09:59 |
| Kyral | said something about "Compiling shared libs with -fPIC | 09:59 |
| slomo | Kyral: ah yes... libraries have to be compiled with -fPIC... look at that page i've given you one hour ago and read it :P | 10:00 |
| Kyral | can I make a suggestion that Lintain on REVU be run with -vi? | 10:00 |
| crimsun | Kyral: yeah, you should - in fact it's a must for most non-i386 | 10:00 |
| elektranox | @slomo: I found a package for communicate with an calculator from Texas Instruments in Ubuntu, but no for an calculator from Casio :( | 10:00 |
| Kyral | crimsun, I'm not the maker ;P | 10:00 |
| slomo | elektranox: is there already an app which does this? | 10:01 |
| elektranox | @slomo: yes, it's aviable at sourceforge: | 10:01 |
| elektranox | http://cafix.sourceforge.net/ | 10:01 |
| slomo | Kyral: tell them to fix -fPIC and soname ;) | 10:01 |
| Kyral | Hows about I also attach the output from Lintain? | 10:01 |
| slomo | Kyral: that doesn't hlep them probably... | 10:02 |
| slomo | but do it ;) | 10:02 |
| Kyral | It can explain somethings better than I can | 10:02 |
| slomo | maybe... and give them the url to the libraries page in the debian policy ;) | 10:03 |
| Kyral | Throwing the book at them? | 10:03 |
| LaserJock | dholbach: thanks for reviewing my package | 10:03 |
| slomo | Kyral: only that one page :P | 10:04 |
| Kyral | LaserJock, I'll handle the ChemPaint package | 10:04 |
| herve | Kyral, no, gently passing the book several meters trought the air :-) | 10:04 |
| lfittl | elektranox: That one is already listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates | 10:04 |
| Kyral | and ask the FlowDesigner devs to email me | 10:04 |
| slomo | Kyral: and consider packaging http://cafix.sourceforge.net/ =) should be an easy one | 10:04 |
| Kyral | petermcv@clarkson.edu | 10:04 |
| Kyral | slomo, only if you take GNOME-RDP off my hands | 10:05 |
| at1as | crimsun: I'm having a bad time importing xvid, using any of ffmpeg, xvid or divx. | 10:05 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: ok, just check to make sure Debian doesn't have it first and nobody is working on it for Ubuntu. Seems like there might have been | 10:05 |
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| at1as | 10:05 | |
| Kyral | I think I checked Debian | 10:05 |
| Kyral | wtf is Cafix do? | 10:06 |
| slomo | Kyral: casio calculator interface ;) | 10:06 |
| Kyral | ah | 10:06 |
| slomo | Kyral: i won't touch gnome-rdp... upstream has to fix that mess and we can talk about it again... did you already mail them? | 10:07 |
| Kyral | I'll work on it once FlowDesigner gets done | 10:07 |
| elektranox | the text says ubuntu - nobody Oo | 10:07 |
| Kyral | slomo, nope | 10:07 |
| Kyral | I don't think English is upstream's first language either | 10:07 |
| Kyral | Tried to go to the website to see if I could find anything, its all in a language I don't know | 10:08 |
| slomo | but they speak english ;) | 10:08 |
| slomo | oh | 10:08 |
| crimsun | at1as: "a bad time" isn't exactly precise | 10:09 |
| crimsun | at1as: what precisely is the issue? | 10:09 |
| === Kyral thinks he should put a "Packages I'm working on" section in his Wikipage | ||
| Kyral | LJ, have you been in direct email contact with the FlowDesigner devs? | 10:12 |
| lfittl | slomo: I could try to package libcafix & gcafix, I have enough time to do it | 10:12 |
| Kyral | lfittl, I can do it | 10:12 |
| Kyral | I need the experiance under my belt ;P | 10:13 |
| slomo | lfittl: fine :) | 10:13 |
| slomo | there are enough packages to do for all of us :P | 10:13 |
| lfittl | Kyral: me too ;) | 10:13 |
| slomo | just look at universecandidates | 10:13 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: I just emailed the two authors and cc'd it to you | 10:13 |
| Kyral | lfittl, its all yours ;P | 10:14 |
| === Kyral looks at the calendar | ||
| Kyral | I believe becoming an Ubuntu Member would be a nice xmas gift ;P | 10:14 |
| elektranox | lfittl: if you want i can test the packages for you ^^ | 10:15 |
| Kyral | Just gotta keep at it :D | 10:15 |
| herve | reviewing packages is good too ;-) | 10:15 |
| Kyral | You need to be an Ubuntu Member (and MOTU?) to do that | 10:16 |
| lfittl | elektranox: thanks that will help, just give me some time to do the packaging work ;) | 10:17 |
| slomo | Kyral: he means "real" testing, not reviewing ;) | 10:17 |
| Kyral | During December Break, you know I'll be hyperactive in packaging | 10:18 |
| Kyral | along with learning Python | 10:18 |
| elektranox | lfittl: no | 10:18 |
| elektranox | lfittl: i only want to test if the package run | 10:18 |
| elektranox | lfittl: but my english is so bad, that i can't say it so well :P | 10:19 |
| slomo | elektranox: you're german? | 10:20 |
| elektranox | slomo: yes | 10:20 |
| slomo | elektranox: hehe, you can almost speak german here :P but only almost ;) | 10:21 |
| sistpoty | das ist nur ein geruecht (that's only a rumour) ;) | 10:22 |
| elektranox | mh gut zu wissen ^^ | 10:22 |
| sistpoty | but be kind and use english ;) | 10:23 |
| herve | Kyral, I can help for Python :-) | 10:26 |
| slomo | herve: you will learn python for him? ;) | 10:27 |
| Kyral | Well, I cleaned up Flowdesigner as much as I could | 10:27 |
| Kyral | namely my typos in control ;P | 10:27 |
| \sh | what was that? deutsch hier? german here? | 10:28 |
| herve | slomo, I'm confident he could ask me a question I can't answer! | 10:28 |
| LaserJock | what do I do about a menu icon that is not in xpm format? | 10:28 |
| Kyral | he..wait.... | 10:28 |
| slomo | \sh: klar doch ;) | 10:28 |
| slomo | LaserJock: convert to xpm or ignore the warning as nobody still uses xpm ;) | 10:29 |
| herve | there's even a certain browser that will soon display 24-bit png with alpha channel :-) | 10:30 |
| LaserJock | slomo: well, dholback made a comment about it when reviewing my package. I would rather not mess with the authors files. hmmm | 10:31 |
| slomo | LaserJock: put a converted xpm file in debian/ and install it from there by hand | 10:32 |
| LaserJock | slomo: ok, and not install .png at all? | 10:32 |
| slomo | LaserJock: install both | 10:32 |
| LaserJock | oh, ok | 10:32 |
| slomo | and use the xpm for the menu file (not the .desktop file, the other one ;) ) | 10:33 |
| LaserJock | ok, makes sense | 10:33 |
| LaserJock | is it possible to reupload an updated version of a source package while keeping the version number the same. I hate having bump up the ubuntuX number everytime I fix a typo | 10:35 |
| LaserJock | or is that motivation to not make any mistakes ;-) | 10:35 |
| === Kyral scratches his head | ||
| slomo | LaserJock: for revu? | 10:35 |
| LaserJock | slomo: yes | 10:35 |
| herve | night all | 10:36 |
| Kyral | is there anyway I can apply the Ubuntu Kernel patches to the 2.6.14 kernel? | 10:36 |
| sistpoty | LaserJock: sure, that's no problem... as long as the latest ubuntu version is lower | 10:36 |
| slomo | LaserJock: you can upload the same version multiple times to revu (but only to revu!) | 10:36 |
| slomo | LaserJock: dput -f bla.changes if it tells you it's already uploaded ;) | 10:36 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I have been having problems doing that. It also complains about needing the .orig.tar.gz when I have already uploaded it. maybe I am doing something wrong here | 10:37 |
| LaserJock | do you need to reupload the .orig.tar.gz for every ubuntuX version? | 10:39 |
| slomo | yes | 10:39 |
| Kyral | So no one knows where I can get the Ubuntu patches to the kernel? | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | slomo: oh, ok I thought since the source hadn't changed it wouldn't need to. | 10:40 |
| crimsun | Kyral: eh? | 10:40 |
| crimsun | Kyral: linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.12 | 10:40 |
| Kyral | for the 2.6.14 ;P | 10:40 |
| crimsun | the git tree is public | 10:41 |
| Kyral | ...and how do I use that? :P | 10:41 |
| crimsun | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 10:41 |
| Kyral | Score debpacks for GIT ;P | 10:44 |
| Kyral | so this is the 2.614 kernel + patches? | 10:44 |
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| crimsun | it's a live snapshot of the tree | 10:48 |
| Kyral | the vanilla kernel tree? | 10:48 |
| === Kyral shrugs | ||
| Kyral | I'd love it if I found a way to compile the NVidia drivers and the Madwifi driver for my Wireless card into the kernel | 10:55 |
| slomo | gn8 everybody | 11:00 |
| elektranox | slomo gn9 | 11:00 |
| Kyral | cxya | 11:00 |
| dholbach | good night, everybody | 11:00 |
| highvoltage | goodnight, dholbach | 11:01 |
| sistpoty | gn8 dholbach | 11:01 |
| Kyral | cya | 11:01 |
| elektranox | Kyral: the madwifi driver is already in ubuntu Oo | 11:01 |
| === highvoltage is off to bed too | ||
| dholbach | night guys | 11:01 |
| sistpoty | gn8 highvoltage | 11:02 |
| Kyral | elektranox, not in the vanilla 2.6.14 kernel | 11:02 |
| Kyral | which is why I wanted to know if I could apply the Ubuntu kernel patches from 2.6.12-9 to 2.6.14 | 11:02 |
| elektranox | mh I tried one time to install the madwifi driver by hand... | 11:04 |
| Kyral | Module-Assistant helps | 11:04 |
| Kyral | but I'm trying to have a completely integrated kernel | 11:04 |
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| \sh | good night motus. | 11:10 |
| sistpoty | gn8 \sh_away | 11:10 |
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| felipe_ | How much time of your week does it takes to be a MOTU of a single pakage? | 11:23 |
| schweeb | you don't get assigned specific packages, generally | 11:24 |
| schweeb | except for the teams | 11:24 |
| schweeb | you put in how much time you feel like putting in | 11:24 |
| felipe_ | schweeb, So....where can I try to see if I can do it before enrroling in a team? | 11:26 |
| schweeb | you don't even have to join a team | 11:26 |
| Pygi | Hello people :) | 11:27 |
| schweeb | but, check malone for bugs in universe packages, then submit to REVU | 11:27 |
| felipe_ | Well the wiki web page says I should enroll at launchpad with the motu team... | 11:27 |
| schweeb | er, after fixing it of course | 11:27 |
| Pygi | I need one info from you if possible | 11:30 |
| elektranox | hello, is here a python freak? | 11:31 |
| Pygi | what do you need from python? | 11:32 |
| Pygi | How can I become a motu? I need to become one because I have recently started one project with matt galvin | 11:32 |
| Pygi | thanks for answe | 11:32 |
| felipe_ | schweeb, how do I search for bugs specific to universe packages? | 11:32 |
| schweeb | good question | 11:33 |
| schweeb | haven't found a good way myself yet | 11:33 |
| felipe_ | hahahaha | 11:33 |
| Pygi | schweeb: :/ | 11:33 |
| elektranox | Pygi, I have a package wich is not compatible to breezy | 11:33 |
| Pygi | gah, python package? | 11:33 |
| elektranox | it consists of different python scripts and a glade prject file | 11:34 |
| Pygi | gah :/ | 11:34 |
| elektranox | my problem is the depending... | 11:35 |
| Pygi | I would look at it, but don't have the breezy installed right now :/ | 11:35 |
| Pygi | maybe you could send it to my mail so I'll have a look at it? | 11:35 |
| elektranox | wait I give you a download link ^^ | 11:36 |
| Pygi | gah, please send it to my mail | 11:36 |
| Pygi | I don't have time to download right now ^^ | 11:36 |
| === sistpoty is off to bed | ||
| sistpoty | gn8 folks | 11:37 |
| elektranox | then please help me only with this line: | 11:37 |
| elektranox | Depends: ${misc:Depends}, ${python:Depends}, python-gnome2, python-glade2, visualboyadvance | 11:37 |
| elektranox | how can I say to use python2.3 | 11:37 |
| elektranox | and not python | 11:37 |
| elektranox | *the line is in debian/config ;) | 11:38 |
| Pygi | gah... | 11:38 |
| Pygi | is that game boy emulator or something like that? | 11:39 |
| elektranox | its called gnomeboyadvance | 11:39 |
| Pygi | gah :P | 11:39 |
| elektranox | my problem is that the script want to use python, wich links to the wrong python... | 11:41 |
| Pygi | hm, do you have file with .py extension? | 11:42 |
| elektranox | yes some full dirs :s | 11:42 |
| Pygi | gah :/ | 11:42 |
| Pygi | ok, here what you'll do :) | 11:43 |
| elektranox | the most are the config files for the emulator | 11:43 |
| Pygi | open each script with text editor, and on the first line you'll see path to python interpreter | 11:43 |
| elektranox | yes | 11:43 |
| Pygi | yes, and edit the path to the python interpreter that works | 11:45 |
| Pygi | you did it? | 11:48 |
| elektranox | yes | 11:48 |
| Pygi | and? | 11:48 |
| Pygi | does it work? | 11:48 |
| elektranox | I have to repack it | 11:49 |
| elektranox | (it's my first time so wait a bit ^^) | 11:49 |
| Pygi | kk :) | 11:50 |
| Pygi | you alive? :) | 11:58 |
| elektranox | yes i install pbuilder | 11:58 |
| Pygi | oh | 11:59 |
| Pygi | let me know if it worked | 11:59 |
| elektranox | i will do ;) | 11:59 |
| Pygi | send me a mail | 11:59 |
| Pygi | cause I think I'll be off | 11:59 |
| Pygi | mario.danic@gmail.com | 11:59 |
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