[12:26] <\sh> moins [12:27] hi \sh :) how was your flight? [12:27] <\sh> good...but missed my connection flight from ffm to cgn and they lost my luggage then [12:28] yikes! [12:28] heh nice [12:28] win 13 [12:29] \sh: completly lost or did it already show up again? [12:30] <\sh> it was found couple of hours later [12:31] oh, at least some luck === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-47-165.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:33] hmm, brb === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jimbob_ [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dtf [n=dtf@ppp-70-226-173-236.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Rounin [n=david@fjb-dhcp120.studby.uio.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:13] how to I mark launchpad bugs in package changelogs? [01:36] how do you get a man page installed using dh_installman? [01:36] LaserJock: you use cdbs, don't you? [01:37] hub: I'm not using cdbs [01:39] do you have to specify where the man page is? [01:40] SYNOPSIS [01:40] dh_installman [debhelper options] [manpage ...] [01:40] i hate to say 'rtfm' but... [01:40] dredg: been there, done that, still confused [01:41] really? looks pretty self-evident to me [01:41] You tell it what man pages go in your packages, and it figures out where to install them based on the section field in their .TH line. [01:41] and the above synopsis pretty much says 'use: dh_installman manpage' [01:42] dredg: no, you specify if you don't want to have a man page installed [01:42] if you don't want to have a man page installed then surely you don't run dh_installman? [01:43] crap, I was looking at dh_installmanpages not dh_installman [01:45] see the Notes bit at the end of the dh_installman manpage [01:46] dang, still not working [01:46] no? [01:46] ok, I have my man page in /debian , is that ok? [01:51] don't think so [01:52] maybe the man page has to be in the source directory [01:52] darn === at1as [n=at1as@24-247-15-243.static.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kofi [n=cory@adsl-65-43-218-161.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Cimmerian [n=crom@80.239.71.244] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] ugghh, why won't it install a man page? [02:16] is the .TH section correctly formatted? [02:16] I'm pretty sure it is [02:17] I compared mine with the one for less and it seemed right [02:17] make a package.manpages, then [02:21] crimsun: yeah, that worked. sweet [02:21] can someone review this http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=876 [02:21] it does fix a malone bug [02:22] crimsun: does that mean I did something wrong or dh_installman couldn't figure out that my man page was a man page? [02:24] LaserJock: if the man page isn't installed explicitly, you'd have to use dh_installman path/to/foo.1 -p package [02:24] or something similar === derekS [n=derekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] crimsun: but is it ok to have package.manpages in /debian ? [02:28] LaserJock: are they upstream's or debian's? [02:28] hub: that -data version dependency looks sketchy === zakame [n=zak@210.213.78.192] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] crimsun: I made the man page myself [02:29] morning all :) [02:29] LaserJock: then having debian/package.section is fine, yes [02:30] doesn't have to be package.section, of course, but whatever your binary's name is [02:30] crimsun: the -data does have the glade files and 2.0.x does not have the same set [02:30] crimsun: ok, well I made a patch to put it in the source directory because I thought it might have to go there [02:30] crimsun: and then have package.manpages [02:30] crimsun: that's why. I'm just fixing the package from Debian [02:30] LaserJock: nope, leave it in debian/ if it's yours [02:31] crimsun: ok [02:32] hub: but why does glabels have this: Depends: glabels-data (<= ${Source-Version}) ? [02:33] hub: i.e., a dependency on a -data _lower_ that what you're trying to install? [02:33] s/that/than/ [02:33] crimsun: it had [02:34] hmmm glabels :) [02:34] crimsun: don't know. it is how it came from Debian [02:35] crimsun: it's lower than or equal, actually, probably because -data doesn't change very much [02:36] which means if you have Breezy's -data installed, it won't be upgraded. Is that the intent? [02:36] seems so [02:37] however, if changes are made to -data, iirc upstream should be notified about it [02:38] crimsun: if it is not upgraded it does not work [02:38] crimsun: bug 3993 in malone [02:38] crimsun: because the .glade are in the -data [02:39] maybe the .glabe shoudln't be in there. I just fixed quickly [02:40] hub: then the <= is wrong [02:41] should then be (= ${Source-Version}) [02:42] the <= makes it so that having glabels-data 2.0.2-3 installed allows a upgrade of glabels from 2.0.2-3 to 2.1.1-2 [02:42] without an accompanying upgrade of glabels-data [02:42] 2.1.1-1, sorry [02:42] crimsun: gah.... the control on REVU is not the one I have in my Emacs buffer [02:42] crimsun: weird [02:42] hub: hihi [02:43] how do you get dput to include the .orig.tar.gz? [02:43] LaserJock: it should, unless its already uploaded, if that's the case, then its a dput -f ... [02:44] zakame: didn't work for me [02:44] crimsun: I'll upload it again [02:45] LaserJock: -sa need to be passed to dpkg-buildpackage [02:45] needs^ [02:45] I know why [02:45] sorry, my wifi connection is extremely lagged [02:45] stupid control.in === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] crimsun: the package I had uploaded didn't have the change [02:47] :-/ [02:47] ok === bmonty [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] wb bmonty [03:05] hi everyone [03:05] hi zakame === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:12] evening [03:13] lo zul [03:13] hey zul === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] hey bddebian [03:15] Heya gang [03:15] wb bddebian [03:15] How's it going bmonty ? [03:15] Hello zakame [03:16] bddebian: good, I got a new family member since I talked to you last :) [03:16] Oh yeah? [03:16] Boy or girl? [03:16] bddebian: boy [03:16] Cool, congrats [03:16] thankfully! [03:16] thanks [03:17] Thankfully? Heh, I got 3 girls :-) [03:17] bmonty: wow, congrats :) [03:17] bddebian: yeah, I'm not sure I want a girl based on what the guys I work with tell me about their daughters [03:18] zakame: thanks :) [03:18] bmonty: Aye ;-) [03:20] brb === bmonty [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:22] boys and girls are handfuls in their own ways, heh [03:22] Heya crimsun [03:22] heya bddebian, how're things? [03:22] Busy :-( [03:22] yeah, I hear that [03:23] This "work" stuff is for the birds :-) [03:24] :-) [03:28] come work here :) we get fed. and beered. and stuff. === dredg wanders off for steak === Jimbob_ [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:31] (might I add that it's darned difficult to work for that company...) [03:32] dredg: Well hire me then :-) [03:32] bddebian: send me your resume/cv [03:33] Bah, I have no sk1llz ;-) [03:33] better hide your karma then :p [03:34] evening === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] lo ajmitch [03:34] Heya ajmitch [03:34] crimsun: I haven't gotten any karma in like 3 weeks :'-( [03:34] So how was UBZ? [03:35] oh, it was ok [03:35] bddebian: got any more laptops? ;) [03:35] hi ajmitch [03:35] ajmitch: I still have the one I was gonna send ya. Why? :-) [03:35] ajmitch: And why just OK? [03:36] bddebian: because mine was stolen [03:36] ajmitch: stolen? [03:36] yes [03:36] that is what I said [03:36] ajmitch: :'-( [03:37] ajmitch: awww [03:37] crappy hotel security === ajmitch is at a friend's place at the moment [03:37] damn, I thought the ajmitch sticker on the bottom of the laptop I just bought off ebay was a coincidence [03:37] mwahaha [03:37] heh === hunger [n=hunger@p54A62D23.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:38] wb hunger === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-159-108.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:41] hey LaserJock [03:41] hi bmonty [03:41] wb LaserJock [03:41] aren't you supposed to get an email after you upload to REVU? === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] I don't think so, it just shows up on the page [03:43] I've done an upload twice now, and I haven't received any email yet [03:43] bbl [03:44] bddebian: btw I'm at a friend's place in the US [03:44] not too far from you, anyway ;) [03:44] Oh no, not the EVIL US ;-P [03:44] Whereabouts? [03:45] NY [03:45] bddebian: Hi! haven't seen you around for a while ;-) [03:45] Heya LaserJock . I know been stuck in RL job :-( [03:46] ajmitch: Cool, so when you coming by? :-) [03:46] does each upload to REVU have to have a new version number? === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@d-ip-129-15-212-149.wireless.ou.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:46] LaserJock: I dunno :-( [03:46] bddebian: well since my wallet was stolen too, I'm a little short on $$ :P [03:47] ajmitch: Here or in Canuckistan? [03:47] yo [03:47] ajmitch: dude you are full of bad luck [03:47] the restaurant at the end of the^W^W^Whotel [03:47] zul: it was in the laptop bag, with my camera also [03:47] we don't have theft in Canada. It must've been a US tourist [03:47] I was just 1 of 3 to have theirs stolen :) [03:48] ....why is everyone looking at me [03:48] ;P [03:48] Man, that sucks [03:48] Hello Kyral [03:48] because you took off awfully quickly [03:48] I had an EXAM the next day! [03:48] no excuse [03:49] Damn good excuse when you consider its the class I'm doing worse in [03:55] Hey bddebian, long time no see [03:59] LaserJock, can you have the FlowDevelop devs email me? [04:06] Kyral: do you want something from them? [04:06] Nah just want to open the channel :P [04:07] Kyral: ok [04:08] http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1931514941/qid=1131419259/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-5872496-2897745?v=glance&s=books <---YEA! [04:11] hmm, 10 bucks a book, and 14 volumes... [04:12] hmm :D [04:12] Its the ultimate sign of respect for me to actually buy something I already downloaded :D [04:14] is that cartoon pr0n or something? [04:15] Nah [04:15] very Ecchi, but not Hentai [04:15] Its Manga [04:15] Love Hina ranks around one of my favs :D [04:16] Along with Rurouni Kenshin, and the 30 year old Gundam metaseries [04:23] what kind of things can you do when you log in to REVU? [04:24] LaserJock: make comments on your own uploads [04:25] Yah I need help with that POS Gnome-RDP program === StoneTable [n=stone@1380bhost162.starwoodbroadband.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] well, I made my first upload to REVU today. [04:36] nice, which package? [04:36] LaserJock: Nice [04:36] but I haven't gotten an email so I can't make comments. Hopefully that will happen sometime soon [04:36] ajmitch: How long you going to be in NY? [04:36] plotdrop [04:36] Really Mitch is gonna be in my state? [04:36] LaserJock: just type your email with no password in the logon and the use the password recovery link [04:36] ooooo [04:36] bmonty: ahhh [04:37] Swing by Potsdam NY on your way south :D [04:39] bmonty: thanks, that worked like a charm ;-) [04:39] LaserJock: np [04:39] that stumped me for awhile until someone told me how :) [04:39] now I just need some reviewers to look at it *hint* [04:40] yah and at FlowDevelop [04:40] then the MOTUScience team can have its first Releases :D [04:41] Kyral: slomo said he was going to look at it [04:41] Yah but I'm impatient ;P [04:41] bddebian: going to be around the state until the 14th or so [04:42] well, I know that the MOTU are really busy coming from UBZ and probably have better things to do. But it sure would be nice [04:42] yah ;P === Kyral thinks ajmitch wouldn't like to drop in on Clarkson [04:43] ajmitch: Hmm, I should try to get the lappy to you while you are here, it would be easier. [05:03] I so love developement cycles [05:03] multiple updates a day, you never know what may break next. Keeps life fun :D [05:04] good night everyone [05:04] cya === Kyral pokes LaserJock [05:11] yeah? [05:11] Check out the Lintain data for your package [05:12] yeah? [05:12] You can fix it by setting standards version in control to 3.6.2 [05:13] what about the second one? [05:13] build-depends-without-arch-dep [05:13] and changing arch to "any" [05:13] or all [05:13] whichever it isn't now ;P [05:13] any [05:14] yeah, ok cool [05:14] I gotta go now. I will c you all later [05:14] thanks for the heads up Kyral. i will email the FlowDesigner devs for you [05:15] I get the pain in the arse NMU errors [05:23] Kyral: those NMUs are safely ignored === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bhuvan [n=ubuntu@b14.gw.maa.collab.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o bhuvan] by ChanServ === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:52] What bothers me more is the lintain errors being generated at the build stage [05:53] lintian errors at build stage? === minghua didn't know that could happen [05:53] or like after it was built [05:54] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=872 [05:54] checkout the Lintian entry at the bottom [05:55] I think its generating a lib that I wasn't expecting [05:57] Kyral: wow, that's a _lot_ of lintian warnings [05:57] Kyral: W: flowdesigner: unknown-section dev [05:57] yah [05:57] but look what was generating most of them [05:57] Kyral: this 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[11:13] lucas: no I was busy lately and I do little FOSS stuff [11:13] lucas: can you fwd me the mailing addr so that I can subscribe? === azeem [n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:18] debian-ruby@lists.debian.org [11:18] go to http://lists.debian.org === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:24] zyga: what's your email ? 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[01:26] <\sh> siretart: ping === magnon [n=co@cD9088834.sdsl.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:31] can someone have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=868 ? [01:32] pef:what's the matter [01:33] freeflying: just having a look for errors I haven't see === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] pefdoublecheck that the most recent entry in the changelog === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] freeflying: seems ok for me === jkbys [n=jkbys@218-251-52-236.eonet.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] pef:dose mixxx included in debian [01:39] freeflying: yep, but not yet in Ubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:40] pef:would you mind me to reaad your changelog file [01:40] hi all :D [01:40] can somebody revu my package? :) [01:40] zakame: url maybe ? :D [01:41] pef: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=863 [01:42] <\sh> MERGING TIME [01:42] zakame: the diff file contains autotools-dev stuff :/ (Makefile.in, aclocal.m4, etc), and it shouldn't [01:42] pef: of course, I updated it :) [01:43] pef: its a NEW package, so I have the luxury of building ./debian and updating from scratch :) [01:43] \sh: are bugreports already filed by MoM? [01:43] \sh: or will we got none this time? [01:45] <\sh> slomo_: check the bugzille...search for require merging [01:45] \sh: oh, yes finally... :) [01:46] <\sh> i'm starting tomorrow with it...after I reaaranged my desk here... [01:47] I'll do some everytime i have some free time ;) [01:48] <\sh> well we don't have much time [01:49] well, i have ~10 "freistunden" per week and a weekend ;) [01:50] washes and prepare for father's day first :-P [01:51] \sh: pong (but I'm at work right now) [01:52] merging bugs at bugzilla? [01:52] <\sh> siretart: did u have a good flight back home? [01:52] <\sh> siretart: yepp [01:52] \sh: yeah, it was okay. I slept the way home ;) [01:52] w0t [01:52] w00t === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] lets check the link on the wiki [01:53] https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=UPSTREAM&bug_status=PENDINGUPLOAD&field0-0-0=product&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=merging&field0-0-1=component&type0-0-1=substring&value0-0-1=merging&field0-0-2=short_desc&type0-0-2=substring&value0-0-2=merging&field0-0-3=status_whiteboard&type0-0-3=substring&value0-0-3=merging [01:53] ouch. tinyurl -> topic? :-P [01:53] yepp [01:54] <\sh> siretart: i missed my connection flight to cologne [01:54] \sh: fuck! [01:54] \sh: so what happened next? [01:54] <\sh> siretart: and then I had to take the train (they changed the booking) [01:54] \sh: even better :) [01:54] <\sh> siretart: and when I wanted to claim my luggage at cologne central station, it wasn't there...they didn't board it on the train [01:55] \sh: so did you get your luggage in the end? === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o siretart] by ChanServ === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:siretart] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | TOP PRIO: Merging: http://tinyurl.com/auu5d | somebody please help writing up the MOTU report: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUReportDraft === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-t] by siretart === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o siretart] by siretart [01:56] Nafallo: done ;) [01:56] :-) [01:56] siretart: w00t [01:57] \sh: is it possible that this is only for main, not for universe? [01:57] ehm, is it just me or is gnome-media version 2.12.O-0ubuntu2 atm? :-P [01:58] <\sh> siretart: does it matter for u? :) [01:58] \sh: I'm not in the keyring yet :/ === mgalvin_ [n=mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] <\sh> siretart: only a matter of time... [02:00] yeah, I know [02:00] *yaaawn* [02:00] I just got up [02:01] hi magnon [02:01] funny thing is, it's now 8 in montreal [02:01] :( [02:01] morning magnon! [02:01] <\sh> morning magnon [02:01] morning folks [02:01] <\sh> lunch time btw [02:02] g'mornin' all [02:03] may I pose a motu n00b question: how does merging work? :p === freeflying [n=rockie@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:03] does anybody have about 10m$ I could borrow for my competitive ubuntu applestore which I'm having great ideas for this morning? :P [02:04] zakame: you take 1 and 2, put them together, hope that it works [02:04] in this case 1 would be a debian package and 2 would be ubuntu changes [02:04] zakame: by comparing the ubuntu patched to what has changed in debian in that time [02:05] zakame: after that, you merge all patches together and prepare an upload. done === freeflying [n=rockie@tor/session/x-73600d769326d585] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] siretart, magnon : i see. So changes in debian that aren't in ubuntu get merged in, and assuming all's well, the pkg is injected back into the archive. Am I correct? [02:06] zakame: in principle, yes [02:07] you could always read the mom source code too :) [02:07] magnon: if you could [02:07] magnon: mom is part of hct, which has not been released yet [02:07] how about ubuntu changes that can be useful in debian? are they forwarded to utnubu? [02:08] debian bugs [02:09] siretart: oh, dang. forgot === freeflying [n=rockie@tor/session/x-9d946054ae5e896a] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:09] <\sh> zakame: no..actually u have to file a bug at the debian bts..or wait until the utnubu guys grabbing the patches [02:09] Hey all, was wonder what the MOTU thoughts are on packaging firefox extensions and themes [02:10] \sh: ah [02:10] <\sh> dtf: for this...talk to dieziet (ian jackson) [02:10] zakame: http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge is quite helpful for this [02:11] siretart: checking it out, thanks :) [02:11] time for lunch, see you [02:12] sh: been talking to him I'm looking to present him with a list of pro and cons for a decision on how to handle installs/update === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487D85F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:13] <\sh> dtf: I would like to see this as well...from a developer perspective... [02:14] magnon, siretart, \sh : thanks :) [02:15] \sh: ok I'll put together a wiki page with my thoughts and open it for comments [02:16] <\sh> dtf: right a small spec :) [02:16] <\sh> dtf: s/right/write/ [02:16] <\sh> dtf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpecSpec [02:16] <\sh> add this spec url to your LP account [02:17] \sh woohoo my first ubuntu braindump [02:17] <\sh> dtf: good that I don't have to review it :) [02:18] siretart: how to make that list show only universe? :-) [02:19] Nafallo: I think there are now universe packages in that list yet [02:19] even more so then :-P [02:19] s/now/none at all/ === jamessan|work [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [n=stone@1380bhost162.starwoodbroadband.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d002152.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem [n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@alabama.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Cimmerian [n=crom@80.239.71.244] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === moyogo [n=moyogo@104pc104.ucu-vb.uu.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-34-119.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [i=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tseng [n=tseng@mail.thegrebs.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@port161-157.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mirno [n=mirspcm@office.spcmnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vuntz [n=vuntz@fennas.vuntz.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lool [n=lool@pig.zood.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xtat_ [n=xtat@gaius.rapidpacket.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lifeless [n=robertc@dsl-215.16.240.220.rns02-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-65-26-222-190.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh [n=sh@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Treenaks [n=martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mortas [n=kris@217.148.89.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu === NigelS [i=nigel@83.166.160.96] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kaloz [n=kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xhaker [i=leet@luna.sublimesp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Akatemik [n=tpievila@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:21] wb all [02:22] <\sh> ok...universe should be processed by MoM too [02:22] they are, but I didn't see universe bugs yet [02:23] <\sh> yeah [02:23] <\sh> theres no way to file the bugs for universe [02:23] we did for breezy [02:24] against the UNKNOWN component [02:24] <\sh> btw....anyone who is interessted how MoM is looking....http://photos.shermann.blogweb.de/main.php/v/ubz/20051031/P1000097.JPG.html [02:24] <\sh> siretart: but this time...there is malone [02:26] <\sh> grep http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/LOGS/mom.20051107.log for universe... === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:28] <\sh> and http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/LOGS/mom.20051107b.log === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [n=chrys@dslb-084-056-111-034.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bhuvan [n=ubuntu@59.92.42.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o bhuvan] by ChanServ === hunger [n=hunger@p54A60DFC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:44] Anybody got some time to look over some newbies first set of debs later tonight? [02:44] They are not coplete yet, but it would be nice to know whether I am on the proper track. [02:45] wb hunger [02:45] zakame: Sorry... this ISP really sucks! 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[04:12] ok [04:12] \sh: lighting fast [04:12] <\sh> Yagisan: will be ...sabdfl writes a wrap up for the list [04:13] <\sh> so actually we should hold another motu meeting soon [04:13] \sh: OK, I'll get that soon then. /me heads off to add another list to my bulging mailbox [04:14] hm [04:15] \sh: they don't like ogra and dholbach anymore? :-P [04:15] <\sh> Nafallo: ogra and dholbach are not the formal leads of motu [04:15] ehm oki... [04:16] <\sh> Nafallo: they were setup by sabdfl..now we need formal nominations for the official team lead [04:16] aha [04:16] <\sh> Nafallo: everything else you should read of the post on the list [04:16] <\sh> it has to do with membership nominations etc. [04:16] haven't got it yet :-P [04:16] <\sh> Nafallo: it's not over yet... === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] <\sh> Nafallo: it will come :) [04:17] wb dholbach [04:17] hey dholbach [04:17] morning dholbach :-) === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] hi zakame, hi everybody else [04:17] Nafallo: morning... or whatever [04:18] *confused* [04:18] :-) [04:18] <\sh> dholbach: welcome back home [04:18] <\sh> dholbach: u just missed a very important decision of the CC [04:19] \sh: which one? [04:19] dholbach: they want to replace you ;-) [04:19] oh nice [04:19] <\sh> membership nominations have to be done by the TEAMs like the MOTUs...we can propose them to the CC or TB [04:20] <\sh> but for this to happen we need a formal team lead of at least 3 ppl [04:20] <\sh> which has to be approved by the MOTUs [04:20] <\sh> until the next cc [04:20] it's what we always did in the nominations [04:20] we always suggested them as a team [04:20] <\sh> no. [04:20] everybody had his say [04:20] <\sh> Member Nominations [04:20] both [04:20] <\sh> not MOTU upload rights [04:20] <\sh> yes [04:20] ? [04:21] <\sh> but now, the nominations has to come from 3 ppl out of the team [04:21] need to go now === Nafallo gets confused aswell :-P [04:21] it makes sense to formalize it [04:21] but it's what we always did [04:21] so it's alright for me :) [04:21] \sh: better suggest to go through the logs :) [04:21] <\sh> bhuvan: no...I want to read it as well from sabdfl [04:22] dholbach: there isn't that much difference in practical. it formalizes steps in a way to faciliate the nomination by the CC [04:22] exactly [04:22]