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| \sh | hmmm...actually it's 6pm in montreal..but this is launchpad-dependencies (0.1breezy1) breezy-updates; urgency=low really hard | 12:55 |
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| \sh | starting the merge run | 01:42 |
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| LaserJock | ok, so what can a non-MOTU do to help with merges? | 01:59 |
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| LaserJock | BTW, Kyral did you get that email I sent? | 02:02 |
| Kyral | yah | 02:02 |
| crimsun | minghua: the standard zai jian? | 02:02 |
| \sh | ok | 02:02 |
| \sh | what i do is the following | 02:02 |
| crimsun | (my client munges utf-8) | 02:02 |
| \sh | u see the topic, the last entry | 02:02 |
| LaserJock | \sh: yep | 02:03 |
| \sh | ok...go to the first list (without the | 02:03 |
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| \sh | b | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | k | 02:03 |
| \sh | now... | 02:03 |
| \sh | u see the mom processes running | 02:04 |
| \sh | first one (3ddesktop) | 02:04 |
| \sh | is a 404 | 02:04 |
| \sh | second one is main | 02:04 |
| \sh | * Processing aalib | 02:04 |
| \sh | - unstable: 1.4p5-29 | 02:04 |
| \sh | - main: 1.4p5-28ubuntu3 | 02:04 |
| \sh | third one is 404 | 02:04 |
| \sh | abiword is main | 02:04 |
| \sh | now | 02:05 |
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| Kyral | Ace right? | 02:05 |
| \sh | * Processing ace | 02:05 |
| \sh | - unstable: 5.4.7-5 | 02:05 |
| \sh | - universe: 5.4.7-3ubuntu1 | 02:05 |
| \sh | ok... | 02:05 |
| \sh | are u all subscribed to universe-bugs? | 02:05 |
| LaserJock | yep | 02:05 |
| Kyral | I am | 02:05 |
| \sh | ok... | 02:05 |
| \sh | then u should see two bugs from me | 02:05 |
| \sh | the latest ones | 02:05 |
| Kyral | yup | 02:06 |
| \sh | Subject: [Bug 4012] ace: merge new debian version | 02:06 |
| \sh | Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 00:47:04 -0000 (01:47 CET) | 02:06 |
| \sh | and allegro4.1 | 02:06 |
| \sh | right now I'm working on alleyoop | 02:06 |
| \sh | ok...what i'm doing | 02:06 |
| \sh | I file a bug in malone | 02:06 |
| \sh | assign the bug to universe-bugs (search for it) | 02:06 |
| \sh | and write a comment on the same page where the assignee is | 02:06 |
| \sh | Assignee: <nick> | 02:07 |
| \sh | if tested the stuff in my pbuilder and checked again, if the merge is necessary, or better a sync is requested | 02:07 |
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| \sh | I'll put this as well in this comment | 02:07 |
| \sh | so if the merge is nescessary | 02:07 |
| Kyral | So how do we tell if a merge is needed? | 02:08 |
| Kyral | if it builds right? | 02:08 |
| \sh | then provide us motus (with upload rights) with a list of bugs of you in malone | 02:08 |
| \sh | please add to every bug the link to scotts html directory | 02:08 |
| \sh | which has the form: http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/<source-packagename> | 02:09 |
| \sh | Kyral: ok...go to the directory | 02:09 |
| \sh | http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/alleyoop/ | 02:09 |
| Kyral | yup | 02:10 |
| \sh | read the REPORT | 02:10 |
| Kyral | hmm...I can understand some of it | 02:11 |
| \sh | that is quite good for the beginning | 02:11 |
| \sh | the most important part is this | 02:11 |
| \sh | Check the following patch: | 02:11 |
| \sh | alleyoop_merged.patch -- new changes in Ubuntu (0.9.0-3 -> 0.9.0-3ubuntu1) | 02:11 |
| \sh | ok... | 02:12 |
| \sh | if u see, that we changed in earlier ubuntu versions only some build-deps or deps | 02:12 |
| Kyral | Oh, so view the patch itself | 02:12 |
| \sh | check the debian patches first if they applied them already in the new version | 02:12 |
| \sh | sure | 02:13 |
| \sh | if they applied them (as I described it) then u can check the plain debian version from sid (unstable) get the package and compile the debian package | 02:13 |
| \sh | if there are more changes or separated patches applied (like in ace) u have to merge everything..check the changelog entries...ubuntu and debian changelogs MUST be in the right timeframe | 02:14 |
| \sh | if u check the ace directory and see the patches u will see, that MoM made a mistake and ruled out one debian version | 02:14 |
| \sh | THEN u have to manually change the changes between old ubuntu version and NEW debian version | 02:14 |
| \sh | which is hard | 02:15 |
| \sh | and U should work on the low hanging frute | 02:15 |
| \sh | fruit | 02:15 |
| Kyral | so basically run through, see if the Debian and Ubuntu patches agree, and file the bug? | 02:15 |
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| \sh | yes..and file the bug before u do something | 02:17 |
| Kyral | so...see to see if it builds | 02:17 |
| \sh | check the merge directory of scott...provide this as describtion in the bug | 02:17 |
| minghua | crimsun: you mean Keybuk's quit message? | 02:18 |
| \sh | check in your local dapper pbuilder | 02:18 |
| Kyral | from Sid or from Dapper Source? | 02:18 |
| \sh | Kyral: if you have to merge changes...then use the version in scotts directory | 02:18 |
| Kyral | I mean I check what? Sid Source? | 02:18 |
| \sh | if the changes are trivial and are already applied in the new debian version..then take SIDs version and compile in dapper pbuilder | 02:19 |
| \sh | Kyral: in scotts directory are .dsc, .diff.gz and .orig.tar.gz | 02:19 |
| Kyral | yup yup | 02:19 |
| Kyral | I'm looking at alsoplayer now | 02:20 |
| Kyral | alsaplayer even | 02:20 |
| \sh | Kyral: if you see trivial changes which are now applied in the debian version, and u think we can sync...then SIDs version of the package...if not, use the source version from scott | 02:20 |
| \sh | Kyral: and only check Universe packages | 02:20 |
| \sh | NO MAIN PACKAGES | 02:20 |
| crimsun | minghua: yes | 02:20 |
| Kyral | I know | 02:20 |
| Kyral | alsaplayer is in Universe :D | 02:21 |
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| minghua | crimsun: no, a very strange phrase, see my comments in #ubuntu-devel | 02:21 |
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| Kyral | Yah I don't think the changes in Alsaplayer are trivial.... | 02:22 |
| LaserJock | hi bmonty | 02:22 |
| bmonty | hey LaserJock | 02:22 |
| crimsun | minghua: my irc client munges the glyphs, so it's nonsensical to me | 02:22 |
| Kyral | so grab Scotts version, try building it, then file the bug? | 02:23 |
| crimsun | Kyral/ LaserJock: fwiw, I'm working from the bottom up, beginning with zsi. | 02:23 |
| \sh | first file the bug | 02:23 |
| \sh | so we can see who is working on what | 02:23 |
| \sh | and provide the url to scotts directory | 02:24 |
| crimsun | \sh: are we using a specific title convention? | 02:25 |
| crimsun | like [Dapper MOM] : zsi needs sync from Debian Sid (1.7-1) | 02:25 |
| Kyral | the search in Launchpad for "universe-bugs" turned up MOTU Team | 02:25 |
| bmonty | can someone help clarify the policy for staying synced with debian? Do we want to try to not make -ubuntuX versions of packages and push our patches to debian to sync, or should I just make patches for ubuntu? | 02:25 |
| \sh | crimsun: <source-packagename>: merge new debian version | 02:26 |
| bmonty | Kyral: that is correct | 02:26 |
| crimsun | \sh: gotcha | 02:26 |
| \sh | bmonty: if possible push all changes to debian... | 02:26 |
| \sh | bmonty: but if debian is not fast enough do it as normal...apply the patch and create an ubuntu package | 02:27 |
| bmonty | \sh: do we want to wait for the debian maintainer to accept the patch and upload, or just push the patch to them? | 02:27 |
| bmonty | how long would be considered a reasonable time to wait? | 02:27 |
| \sh | bmonty: push them to the maintainer via bts | 02:27 |
| \sh | bmonty: max. 2 days ,) | 02:27 |
| bmonty | like right now in the beginning of the dev cycle I think we can wait longer than towards the end | 02:27 |
| \sh | which is in ubuntu time a year :) | 02:28 |
| \sh | bmonty: we only have 6 weeks for open development | 02:28 |
| \sh | bmonty: which is packed with merges, new stuff etc. | 02:28 |
| bmonty | \sh: I've been opening debian bugs and then attaching them to malone bugs (kinda inefficient) | 02:28 |
| Kyral | So file the bug as "alsaplayer: merge new debian version" | 02:28 |
| bmonty | \sh: so basically we are still making an ubuntu version no matter what...but making an extra effort to push the patches to debian | 02:29 |
| \sh | bmonty: what do u want? if u need to patch a package then push the bug to debian...merging .. file a bug to malone now...do the merge. | 02:29 |
| Kyral | and in Description: put the link to Scotts directory | 02:29 |
| \sh | bmonty: what patch are u talking about? most trivial ones, like changed build-deps or cxx stuff is already in debian | 02:30 |
| Kyral | then assign it to MOTU and explaination "Assignee: Kyral" | 02:30 |
| Kyral | right? | 02:30 |
| \sh | bmonty: other patches are already catched by utnubu | 02:30 |
| bmonty | \sh: more should I wait to ask one of you guys to upload a patch until after I have a response from the debian maintainer, or just work like I did for breezy | 02:30 |
| \sh | bmonty: only new patches we should push towards debian right now | 02:30 |
| crimsun | Kyral: yes, but make sure you ask for a merge for at least -7 | 02:30 |
| crimsun | Kyral: (should be implicit by requesting a sync) | 02:30 |
| Kyral | It looks like it needs a merge | 02:30 |
| Kyral | I just need to build it to make sure it builds ;D | 02:31 |
| \sh | bmonty: provide a list with your malone bugs filed ... during the week I'll take all the bugs and check them all (which means u, bmonty, i will upload unchecked :)) | 02:31 |
| Kyral | gotta file the bug first right? :D | 02:31 |
| bmonty | \sh: example...I made a patch for wesnoth that fixes the test scenario, I have an ubuntu version of the package, but since I think it is a packaging omission on the part of the debian maintainer I filed a bug in BTS | 02:31 |
| Kyral | so sync if the changes are trivial | 02:32 |
| \sh | bmonty: ok...this is something...well...if the debian maintainer is fast enough...we can wait for him to sync | 02:32 |
| Kyral | merge if they aren't trivial | 02:32 |
| \sh | bmonty: if he's not responding in 2 days...then prepare a package and give us a debdiiff from last version to your version... | 02:32 |
| bmonty | \sh: k that makes sense | 02:33 |
| Kyral | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/alsaplayer/+bug/4018 <--Like that? | 02:33 |
| bmonty | here is another one...I packaged the newest version of gphpedit (#3099) and put it on REVU | 02:33 |
| bmonty | I also emailed the debian maintainer and he said that he has also packaged the newest version, but the DD he works with is too busy to upload the new package | 02:34 |
| bmonty | gphpedit is completely useless without the upgrade | 02:34 |
| \sh | Kyral: yes...assign it now to universe-bugs | 02:34 |
| \sh | and write status notes | 02:35 |
| bmonty | and set the status to accepted | 02:35 |
| Kyral | with Explination: Assignee Kyral in status | 02:35 |
| Kyral | right? | 02:35 |
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| bmonty | or a comment that says you are working on it | 02:35 |
| \sh | status notes is better | 02:35 |
| \sh | that we can see in the bug report by mail | 02:35 |
| Kyral | Done | 02:36 |
| bmonty | status notes are ok, but IMHO are less intuitive than a comment on the main page | 02:36 |
| \sh | for a comment i get two mails. | 02:36 |
| \sh | for a status note I get only one mail :) | 02:36 |
| bmonty | \sh: true, malone does like to generate a lot of email! | 02:37 |
| Kyral | Now to download from scott's dir and build this thing | 02:37 |
| Kyral | if it builds tell you guys? | 02:37 |
| LaserJock | I have a package that says it needs GTK+ 2.4 so does libgtk2.0-dev (=> 2.4.0) work? | 02:38 |
| Kyral | I'll work from the top down BTW | 02:38 |
| minghua | bmonty: maybe you can offer to collaborate with the Debian maintainer of gphpedit | 02:38 |
| \sh | bmonty: well..it can do more | 02:38 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: yes | 02:38 |
| bmonty | minghua: I did, just no response :) | 02:38 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: except you'd use >= | 02:39 |
| Kyral | what do I do if it builds/fails? | 02:39 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: thanks | 02:39 |
| crimsun | Kyral: you ask. I'll look at alsaplayer if it fails; I was planning to ask for a sync this week | 02:39 |
| bmonty | minghua: same issue with uim.... | 02:39 |
| minghua | bmonty: okay. | 02:39 |
| Kyral | and if it passes? | 02:39 |
| minghua | bmonty: I know the uim maintainer is busy | 02:40 |
| crimsun | if it passes, update the bug report and let one of us with upload privs know | 02:40 |
| bmonty | minghua: no doubt, I'm just trying to figure out how long to wait | 02:40 |
| bmonty | uim is kind of a moot point since it was uploaded to dapper today by Martin Pitt | 02:40 |
| minghua | bmonty: so the gphpedit maintainer just replied one mail to you and didn't reply further requests? | 02:40 |
| bmonty | minghua: correct | 02:41 |
| LaserJock | what is the difference between mom.20051107.log and mom.20051107b.log ? | 02:41 |
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| Kyral | I'll build it as soon as my PBuilders finish updating | 02:41 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: ask again, he flooded off | 02:44 |
| Kyral | Here goes nothing | 02:44 |
| Kyral | So while I wait for this to compile, who has tried E17? | 02:45 |
| \sh | ok | 02:45 |
| \sh | when your package is uploaded (please make sure your all whitelisted for breezy changes) | 02:45 |
| \sh | aeh dapper changes | 02:45 |
| \sh | u are as well reponsible to check the buildd logs | 02:45 |
| \sh | which can be found here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs | 02:45 |
| Kyral | whitelisted? | 02:45 |
| LaserJock | what is the difference between mom.20051107.log and mom.20051107b.log ? | 02:45 |
| \sh | but better to look here: people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html | 02:45 |
| Kyral | Already have it bookmarked ;P | 02:45 |
| \sh | the b.log file is for all packages which had 404 in the file without the b | 02:46 |
| Kyral | I'm not even a MOTU, how do I get whitelisted | 02:46 |
| Kyral | \sh you showed farrium and I that site at Ubuntu Love I think ;P | 02:46 |
| Kyral | How do I get whitelisted? | 02:47 |
| Kyral | Got it! Alsaplayer builds in my Dapper PBuilder | 02:48 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: well, I asked elmo for breezy but he said that it was irrelivent because of launchpad | 02:48 |
| \sh | Kyral: with elmo... | 02:48 |
| \sh | wiki.ubuntu.com/Uploads | 02:48 |
| \sh | oh | 02:48 |
| \sh | LaserJock: are u member? | 02:48 |
| \sh | then it's irrelevant | 02:48 |
| LaserJock | \sh: of what | 02:48 |
| \sh | LaserJock: ubuntu | 02:48 |
| Kyral | Neither of us are Ubuntu Members | 02:49 |
| LaserJock | \sh: nope | 02:49 |
| \sh | ok...lets try it later | 02:49 |
| Kyral | We are the two super trainees of the MOTU gang ;P | 02:49 |
| LaserJock | but I was whitelisted for breezy anyway | 02:49 |
| crimsun | Kyral: the only merge that should have been necessary is the glu one | 02:49 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: well, I don't know about "super" ;-) | 02:49 |
| bmonty | LaserJock: you are whitelisted then | 02:49 |
| Kyral | crimsun, the debian patch file looked a lot different than the Ubuntu one ;P | 02:50 |
| crimsun | Kyral: the debian patch has significant advantages | 02:50 |
| Kyral | ah | 02:50 |
| crimsun | Kyral: in fact, you would be best working from -7 and working in the ubuntu diff | 02:50 |
| Kyral | so I should only pay attention to the merge.patch | 02:50 |
| Kyral | -7? | 02:51 |
| crimsun | (just as an ALSA-centric person) | 02:51 |
| crimsun | -7 in sid | 02:51 |
| Kyral | so look in ubuntu.debdiff? | 02:51 |
| \sh | Kyral: check the merged one | 02:52 |
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| Kyral | okay | 02:52 |
| Kyral | so if I only see changelog entry differences, then its a SYNC | 02:52 |
| \sh | Kyral: merges are the highest discipline | 02:52 |
| Kyral | if anything else its a MERGE | 02:52 |
| Kyral | correct? | 02:52 |
| Kyral | (trying to fit this into a quick sort type thing for my mind) | 02:53 |
| \sh | Kyral: no...u have to check as well the debian/control in the debdiff.. | 02:53 |
| crimsun | Kyral: just skip alsaplayer, I'll merge it | 02:53 |
| \sh | Kyral: think about the gl/glu transition in ubuntu which hasn't happend in debian yet | 02:53 |
| Kyral | okay | 02:53 |
| \sh | crimsun: hehe...old pro | 02:53 |
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| Kyral | so... | 02:54 |
| Kyral | if only Control and Changelog are changed its a sync? | 02:54 |
| \sh | amile | 02:54 |
| \sh | amule | 02:54 |
| \sh | Kyral: no | 02:54 |
| \sh | Kyral: if the changes in control are the same in debian and in the ubuntu diff...then i could be a sync..u have to check :) | 02:55 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: my understanding is, if the reason there was a ubuntuX is fixed by syncing then that is what needs to be done | 02:55 |
| LaserJock | otherwise, fix the sid package to fix what was fixed by Ubuntu before | 02:56 |
| === Kyral head hurts now.... | ||
| \sh | hehehe | 02:56 |
| === LaserJock gett tired of the word fix ;-) | ||
| Kyral | Someone just set down really easy rules I can follow | 02:57 |
| Kyral | if ( this ) else if (this) else (this) | 02:57 |
| \sh | Kyral: believe me when I say...i had the headache just after the cxx transition | 02:59 |
| \sh | in breezy | 02:59 |
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| LaserJock | Kyral: I see it as "minimize the number of ubuntuX versions" or the Debian/Ubuntu delta | 02:59 |
| Kyral | Oh I can believe it | 02:59 |
| Kyral | so..I'm looking at ardour | 02:59 |
| LaserJock | man, who is going to have fun with zope? *g* | 03:00 |
| Kyral | In the merge.debdiff I only see the control and changelog entries | 03:01 |
| Kyral | and the debian.debdiff is 19 megabytes.... | 03:02 |
| crimsun | leave ardour. In fact, leave anything that build-depends on libjack*-dev | 03:02 |
| \sh | hehehe | 03:02 |
| \sh | yeah | 03:02 |
| crimsun | we need to transition to libjack0.100.0-dev first | 03:02 |
| Kyral | Yah I battled with libjack | 03:02 |
| Kyral | when I tried to do Mixxx | 03:03 |
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| Kyral | umm, okay | 03:03 |
| Kyral | whats up with axiom | 03:03 |
| Kyral | there is no REPORT, no merge.debdiff | 03:03 |
| Kyral | what is this? A Sync? | 03:04 |
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| Kyral | I think I should sit this one out | 03:06 |
| \sh | Kyral: is it 404 ? | 03:07 |
| Kyral | no | 03:07 |
| Kyral | http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/axiom/ | 03:07 |
| Kyral | the log SAYS it generated a merge.debdiff | 03:08 |
| \sh | Kyral: don't touch it...there is nothing inside...ask keybuk tomorrow montreal time :) | 03:09 |
| Kyral | \sh, you forget | 03:09 |
| Kyral | Montreal Time is also my time :P | 03:09 |
| crimsun | yeah, MOM sometimes takes a vacation to $random | 03:09 |
| Kyral | Seems more like /dev/null this time | 03:09 |
| magnon | hey \sh | 03:09 |
| \sh | Kyral: ok..keybuk should be at lunch | 03:10 |
| crimsun | certainly a valid value for $random | 03:10 |
| \sh | aeh dinner | 03:10 |
| \sh | hey magnon | 03:10 |
| magnon | I can't sleep :( jetlag | 03:10 |
| Kyral | So can I put the alsa thing on my Wikipage? | 03:10 |
| \sh | magnon: ah come on.. | 03:10 |
| \sh | I slept 16 hours from day before yesterday to yesterday | 03:10 |
| magnon | so did I | 03:10 |
| magnon | but I wasn't up before 2pm | 03:11 |
| bmonty | magnon: a dose of Nyquil and a couple of beers is a great way to cure jetlag | 03:11 |
| magnon | I would never take a dose of anything, and \sh bought be enough beer already | 03:12 |
| Kyral | Okay...if a patch dropped its a bad thing right... | 03:12 |
| \sh | magnon: what? beer and pizzy at hubs place? | 03:12 |
| magnon | no | 03:12 |
| magnon | the large one at the airport | 03:12 |
| \sh | magnon: ah...come on..nothing that is | 03:12 |
| \sh | magnon: I just drank beer today | 03:13 |
| magnon | plus three gt's and two beer more paid by mez and jblack :P | 03:13 |
| LaserJock | I can't seem to upload the same version of package to REVU dput goes OK but I don't see it | 03:13 |
| Kyral | dput -f | 03:13 |
| \sh | rm *.upload | 03:14 |
| \sh | ok...ace is done | 03:14 |
| \sh | amule still building | 03:14 |
| magnon | \sh: you can't sleep either it seems | 03:14 |
| \sh | so one last cigarette for today | 03:14 |
| magnon | oh, that sounds nice | 03:14 |
| \sh | magnon: oh well...I just got up at 6 | 03:14 |
| === Kyral really to find a simple rule for if its a sync or merge | ||
| magnon | haha | 03:15 |
| magnon | ok | 03:15 |
| \sh | reclaimed my luggage, went to the county court, and tried to get rid of my inheritage claim of more depts I could pay...I payed now 100 eur to not take the inheritage | 03:15 |
| \sh | just because I was too late, but could show them, that I wasn't in germany | 03:16 |
| bmonty | \sh: at least reason prevaled :) | 03:16 |
| \sh | but after amule I go to bed | 03:16 |
| magnon | reason always costs about 100 eur | 03:16 |
| === Kyral must be stupid tonight if he can't understand this | ||
| Kyral | or drunk, could be | 03:17 |
| Kyral | s/drunk/tired | 03:17 |
| === magnon should work on universe but has to write some job applications | ||
| ajmitch | hi | 03:18 |
| magnon | ajmitch! | 03:18 |
| bmonty | hey ajmitch | 03:18 |
| magnon | you suddenly disappeared :/ | 03:18 |
| \sh | hey ajmitch | 03:19 |
| ajmitch | yes, I got a plane, I said I was leaving about 12 | 03:19 |
| \sh | back in NZ? | 03:19 |
| ajmitch | nope | 03:19 |
| ajmitch | US | 03:19 |
| \sh | oh | 03:19 |
| \sh | visiting bddebian? | 03:19 |
| \sh | where is he btw | 03:19 |
| ajmitch | he's in pennsylvania | 03:19 |
| tseng | you are with bdebian? | 03:20 |
| === ajmitch is back in NZ on the 17th | ||
| ajmitch | no, I'm not | 03:20 |
| tseng | for how long? | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | I'm in NY | 03:20 |
| tseng | oh. | 03:20 |
| tseng | bddebian is very close to me | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | yes, where? | 03:20 |
| tseng | central pennsylvania | 03:20 |
| tseng | West Chester | 03:20 |
| tseng | next to philadelphia | 03:21 |
| tseng | he is in valley forge | 03:21 |
| ajmitch | ok, about 4 & 1/2 hours from here, apparantly | 03:21 |
| tseng | ya =/ | 03:21 |
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| magnon | corey :) | 03:21 |
| ajmitch | brb, just installed breezy here, going to check if XP still operates | 03:22 |
| magnon | haha, this is so cute | 03:23 |
| magnon | http://www.nsa.gov/kids/home_html.cfm | 03:23 |
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| Kyral | okay...why did when I try to install cvs, it wants to remove x11-proto? | 03:27 |
| \sh | ok....done for now/ | 03:27 |
| \sh | sleeping time.... | 03:27 |
| \sh | cu later | 03:27 |
| Kyral | seriously | 03:28 |
| Kyral | why does installing cvs remove x11proto-gl-dev? | 03:28 |
| Kyral | psh its aptitude being an idiot | 03:28 |
| Kyral | I guess I need root to compile E17 | 03:32 |
| minghua | what if the changes in hoary can be dropped? | 03:34 |
| minghua | I am looking at the packages I worked on C++ transtition | 03:34 |
| minghua | one of them is libmath++, and the debian version finished the transition as well | 03:34 |
| crimsun | we always prefer the Debian version | 03:35 |
| minghua | I think we can just use the new debian version | 03:35 |
| crimsun | if it tests ok to you, then we can just sync it | 03:35 |
| Kyral | crimsun | 03:36 |
| Kyral | is that my stupid easy rule? | 03:36 |
| Kyral | :P | 03:37 |
| Kyral | if the Sid builds in Dapper PBuilder sync it? | 03:37 |
| minghua | crimsun: ok, I'll test it and report back later (no access to ubuntu machine now) | 03:37 |
| minghua | Kyral: I suppose you need to make sure that no changes in the ubuntu patch is worth keeping? | 03:37 |
| Kyral | I dunno, I'm new at this whole thing | 03:38 |
| Kyral | and I doubt I will be doing anymore compiling tonight | 03:38 |
| Kyral | seeing as I'm compiling E17 from CVS right now ;P | 03:39 |
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| === Kyral hates it when people offer up packages made with checkinstall | ||
| === seth_k|lappy too | ||
| Kyral | I just want to stabbity them | 04:22 |
| dredg | what's checkinstall? | 04:22 |
| Kyral | a shitass method for making Debian Packages | 04:23 |
| Kyral | you should be shot if you use it | 04:23 |
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| dredg | a quick google has left me scared | 04:24 |
| dredg | people use that? | 04:24 |
| Kyral | Oh what does Google say? | 04:25 |
| LaserJock | ok, I can't for the life of me get REVU to show a new upload of the same version | 04:25 |
| dredg | http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ | 04:25 |
| Yagisan | IIRC it used to be promoted as a quick and easy way to make debs on the forums | 04:26 |
| Kyral | Yah it was | 04:26 |
| Kyral | and people still use it | 04:26 |
| Kyral | and guess where the offender came from this time? | 04:26 |
| Yagisan | forums ? | 04:26 |
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| Kyral | Bingo | 04:27 |
| Kyral | dredg, I cannot hit that link | 04:27 |
| Yagisan | Kyral: I could, but it will horrify you | 04:27 |
| Yagisan | Kyral: what did they "package" | 04:27 |
| Kyral | eh? | 04:27 |
| Kyral | GAIM 2.0 CVS | 04:28 |
| crimsun | ;( | 04:28 |
| crimsun | well, we do give you enough rope to hang yourself... | 04:29 |
| LaserJock | could I get a MOTU to review a package (plotdrop) on REVU for me? | 04:29 |
| Kyral | I mean, if you are using it just so you can uninstall something easy, thats fine | 04:30 |
| crimsun | doing merge work atm; I'll try to look at REVU later | 04:30 |
| Kyral | but if you plan to share the package you should be shot | 04:30 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: yeah, the package I am packaging now (plotdrop) has a checkinstall .deb posted at the homepage | 04:31 |
| Kyral | How can you tell if a Deb is Checkinstalled? | 04:31 |
| minghua | no /usr/share/doc/<package_name>/copyright, I suppose? | 04:32 |
| crimsun | yeah, general sloppiness | 04:32 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: well, I can't remember now, but I am sure there was something about it | 04:32 |
| LaserJock | oh, now I remember. Under Section it will have checkinstall | 04:34 |
| Kyral | lol | 04:34 |
| === minghua must admit that checkinstall is an honest tool | ||
| crimsun | we could "adjust" dpkg to refuse to install packages with such a Section | 04:35 |
| bmonty | if a user wants to install a checkinstall package, they should be free to do it | 04:37 |
| minghua | maybe have dpkg to give a big fat warning for Section:checkinstall is not a bad idea after all, but don't refuse to install it | 04:37 |
| bmonty | i like that idea | 04:38 |
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| LaserJock | I use it for local packages that I install. It is handy for that. But I would never distribute something I made using it | 04:42 |
| Kyral | Yah... | 04:42 |
| Kyral | if someone handed me a CheckInstall Package, I'd hit'em with a copy of the New Maintainers Guide | 04:43 |
| LaserJock | lol, I can imagine that | 04:43 |
| Kyral | It would be like | 04:43 |
| Kyral | "You insult the Debian Gods! I smacketh thou down!" | 04:44 |
| LaserJock | I sure wish I could get REVU down. It is kinda frustrating. I feel really dumb | 04:47 |
| bmonty | I'm doing a merge of bzflag | 04:50 |
| Kyral | I'm reading CTRL+ALT+DEL | 04:50 |
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| crimsun | bmonty: / minghua: That was more tongue-in-cheek than serious | 05:12 |
| bmonty | :) | 05:13 |
| minghua | I'm half-serious :-) | 05:14 |
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| bmonty | how can I sign a changes file made from a pbuilder? | 05:18 |
| Kyral | It should sign automatically | 05:19 |
| Mithrandir | or just use debsign. | 05:19 |
| crimsun | use debsign -k<keyid> | 05:19 |
| bmonty | debisgn worked, thanks | 05:19 |
| bmonty | I uploaded a merged bzflag to REVU if anyone wants to take a look | 05:27 |
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| Kyral | I gotta stop reading BOFH | 05:53 |
| Kyral | Its making me think DarkSide Hacker thoughts | 05:53 |
| LaserJock | dang, I wish you could find the Malone bugs you have commented on or at least subscribed to | 06:03 |
| Kyral | Yah | 06:03 |
| Kyral | I suggested that at Ubuntu Love | 06:03 |
| Kyral | SHOWER TIME! | 06:03 |
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| LaserJock | could somebody look at bug #3252 ? | 06:12 |
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| minghua | If I want to confirm a merge from debian (dropping all previous ubuntu changes), should I file a launchpad bug first as well? | 06:16 |
| Lathiat | no, only if its already got a bug | 06:19 |
| minghua | Lathiat: cool, thanks | 06:21 |
| Kyral | Hmm | 06:25 |
| Kyral | I am feeling BOFHish | 06:25 |
| Kyral | But...I cannot indulge my darkside | 06:29 |
| minghua | Okay, I've tested the build. | 06:31 |
| minghua | how should I request a sync for libmath++ 0.0.4-2 from debian? all previous ubuntu changes should be dropped | 06:31 |
| crimsun | minghua: ask elmo in -devel and say as much or send him an e-mail | 06:32 |
| minghua | crimsun: thanks. I've asked on #ubuntu-devel, will send email if I don't get reply | 06:34 |
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| zakame | afternoon all :D | 06:54 |
| Yagisan | G'day zakame | 06:55 |
| zakame | what's up? | 06:57 |
| Yagisan | zakame: not much it seems. | 06:59 |
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| seth_k | siretart, when you come back: I have uploaded a package signed with my seth@ubuntu.com key ( http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=884 ) but when I try to recover password ( http://revu.tauware.de/lostpw.py?email=seth@ubuntu.com ) then it's blank. Any idea? | 07:06 |
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| pef | hello | 08:19 |
| zakame | hi pef :D | 08:20 |
| pef | zakame: hi, you never sleep ? :] | 08:20 |
| zakame | pef: hehe no, I still do, 'tis too hard not to :D | 08:21 |
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| siretart | morning | 08:34 |
| siretart | uuuh, so many hilights | 08:34 |
| pef | siretart: one more | 08:35 |
| pef | :) | 08:35 |
| siretart | hi pef :) | 08:35 |
| pef | siretart: hello :) | 08:35 |
| zakame | hi siretart , wb pef | 08:36 |
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| zakame | wb siretart | 08:38 |
| siretart | hi zakame | 08:38 |
| pef | zakame: are you a bot ? :] | 08:39 |
| zakame | pef: buwhahaha | 08:39 |
| pef | :D | 08:39 |
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| Nafallo | lol | 08:44 |
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| siretart | woah, we are db2 certified. w00t! | 08:52 |
| zakame | yeah, 'tis was in -devel earlier :D | 08:52 |
| === siretart just got home and is reading email right now | ||
| zakame | it is also now on the main site, with the DB2 logo now on it :) | 08:55 |
| siretart | :) | 08:55 |
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| zakame | wb dholbach | 08:56 |
| siretart | ... "ubuntu is an acient African word, meaning 'I'm sick of compiling gentoo'.. " *g* | 08:56 |
| siretart | huhu dholbach | 08:56 |
| zakame | siretart: hahaha | 08:56 |
| dholbach | hellas zakame | 08:56 |
| dholbach | hi siretart | 08:56 |
| dholbach | hey everybody else | 08:56 |
| siretart | :) | 08:56 |
| hunger | siretart: Well, if you are not you can always become a maintainer:-) | 08:58 |
| zakame | ei hunger | 08:58 |
| siretart | hunger: I'll think about it | 08:58 |
| zakame | hmmm, where do I propose membership for motu? | 08:59 |
| zakame | I read in MaintainerCandidates that LP's ubuntu-dev team's the way to go, but I also see a motu team as well... | 09:00 |
| siretart | do some works, get your packages uploaded, propose yourself to the CC, do some more work, propose yourself to the TB, and you'll get added to ubuntu-dev team | 09:01 |
| Nafallo | zakame: member != motu :-) | 09:01 |
| Nafallo | ehm, ignore me :-P | 09:01 |
| zakame | ah, ok :) | 09:01 |
| Nafallo | motu is for bugs, ubuntu-dev is for rights :-) | 09:01 |
| siretart | I didn't exactly get where ubuntu-dev != MOTU, dholbach do you have a short rationale? | 09:01 |
| dholbach | siretart: Nafallo said it | 09:02 |
| siretart | s/where/why/ | 09:02 |
| siretart | okay | 09:02 |
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| siretart | dholbach: so we can add anyone interested in MOTU? | 09:02 |
| dholbach | with motu subteams, i think that's already the case | 09:03 |
| === hunger hates not having internet for 4 days/week. | ||
| siretart | I think I get the problem.. | 09:03 |
| dholbach | we should think about this properly | 09:03 |
| Nafallo | hunger: wow. and you did actually survive? | 09:03 |
| hunger | I wanted to continue with my debs yesterday night... just to discover that I need to download a tiny little snipplet of code from the net. | 09:03 |
| zakame | hunger: awww | 09:04 |
| hunger | Nafallo: I do have internet in the company... enough to chat, but that's it. | 09:04 |
| Nafallo | wow | 09:04 |
| Nafallo | suicide is always an option, I think? ;-) | 09:04 |
| hunger | Downloading, chatting, etc. not allowed. | 09:04 |
| Nafallo | like "gimme internet or I'll be gone!" | 09:05 |
| === hunger has to tunnel through the firewall to do IRC. | ||
| hunger | At least I can do some limited downloads that way, too... if I don't overdo it and get the network admins on my track. | 09:06 |
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| zakame | thanks folks, bbl | 09:16 |
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| === hunger sighs. | ||
| hunger | Downloading a kernel image with 460byte/s is no fun! | 09:20 |
| Nafallo | no shit :-P | 09:21 |
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| siretart | \sh_away: around? | 10:10 |
| Nafallo | siretart: he's clearly away ;-) | 10:10 |
| siretart | Nafallo: obviously | 10:11 |
| Nafallo | since that nick gets set when he's disconnected from the dircproxy ;-) | 10:11 |
| poningru | hey who here is looking into testing stuff | 10:45 |
| poningru | as in creation of standardized testing or something | 10:45 |
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| poningru | I was reading through couple of emails on the list and I saw someone talking about it | 10:45 |
| poningru | wondering if we are still interested in this | 10:45 |
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| zyga | hello | 11:24 |
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| zakame | hi zyga | 11:29 |
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| \sh | moins | 11:37 |
| zakame | eves | 11:38 |
| siretart | hey \sh | 11:39 |
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| dholbach | who of you avahi people will package http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-user-share/0.6/gnome-user-share-0.6.tar.gz ? :) | 11:47 |
| dholbach | or shall i do it? | 11:48 |
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| Lathiat | dholbach: hah | 11:48 |
| Lathiat | dholbach: a release with my patch? | 11:48 |
| Lathiat | dholbach: i can do that | 11:48 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: rock'n'roll | 11:49 |
| === Lathiat puts it on the todo list | ||
| Lathiat | i have a real job atm :( haha | 11:49 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: i will REVU it as soon as it's uploaded | 11:49 |
| Lathiat | its a whole new concept ;) | 11:49 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: it's horrible, isn't it? :) | 11:49 |
| dholbach | Lathiat: just ping me, when you uploaded it | 11:50 |
| Lathiat | sure | 11:50 |
| slomo | i could do it too if you don't have enough time for it atm | 11:55 |
| dholbach | slomo, Lathiat: maybe you can base the package on http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/gnome/gnome-user-share | 11:56 |
| Lathiat | yeh we already ahve one | 11:56 |
| Lathiat | its not much different | 11:56 |
| Lathiat | should just be able to dump the new tarball in | 11:57 |
| Lathiat | modify the build-deps | 11:57 |
| Lathiat | and off you go | 11:57 |
| dholbach | (and change the FSF adress) :-p | 11:57 |
| dholbach | debian seems to care much about that change | 11:57 |
| === dholbach notices while merging | ||
| zakame | dholbach: of course they do :D | 11:57 |
| slomo | Lathiat: ok, then you do it =) shouldn't need that much time | 11:57 |
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| dholbach | if you don't change much to the packaging, just upload it | 11:58 |
| hunger | HI selinium | 11:58 |
| dholbach | it's not really new | 11:58 |
| slomo | *shrug* | 11:59 |
| selinium | hi hunger | 11:59 |
| selinium | :) | 11:59 |
| dholbach | slomo: ? | 11:59 |
| slomo | Lathiat: i'll do it now if you don't mind... i have nothing to do in the next hour | 11:59 |
| Lathiat | slomo: go ahead | 12:00 |
| Lathiat | i have plenty to do ;) | 12:00 |
| slomo | hmm... i'll give it to ajmitch afterwards ;) maybe we can get this into debian too | 12:01 |
| slomo | hmm, shall i keep jdub as maintainer? | 12:09 |
| slomo | dholbach? | 12:10 |
| dholbach | slomo: ask him | 12:10 |
| dholbach | if you REALLY REALLY REALLY want to be the maintainer, ask him and go for it | 12:10 |
| slomo | i don't want it ;) but i don't know if he still wants to be the maintainer... | 12:11 |
| slomo | so let's keep him until he complains? ;) | 12:11 |
| dholbach | you might have to ask elmo to remove it from random-blacklist | 12:13 |
| dholbach | slomo: ask him | 12:13 |
| slomo | ok | 12:13 |
| slomo | hm, he isn't in -devel :( | 12:13 |
| slomo | let's write a mail... | 12:13 |
| slomo | dholbach: ok, package ready to be uploaded... i'll wait for his answer and upload it then | 12:17 |
| dholbach | slomo: cool | 12:18 |
| slomo | hmm, does malone already have a search function which searches for a string somewhere in the bugreport? | 12:18 |
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| dholbach | slomo: i suppose it searches in short and long description | 12:24 |
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| slomo | hm ok | 12:25 |
| sivang | siretart: how do I know if a package on he MOM list has already been fixed, touched? | 12:25 |
| Lathiat | you could see what version it was trying to merge | 12:26 |
| Lathiat | and confirm.. | 12:26 |
| dholbach | sivang: the bug should be closed and you should see via apt-cache show ... | grep Version | 12:26 |
| slomo | sivang: look at the corresponding bugreport in bugzilla | 12:26 |
| Lathiat | that ours is the same or new | 12:26 |
| Lathiat | slomo: bug reports were slackly udpated | 12:26 |
| siretart | sivang: check the ubuntu-bugs mailing list | 12:26 |
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| \sh | slomo: for universe there ARE NO BUGS FOR UNIVERSE | 12:29 |
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| sivang | dholbach: what would I see there on the version? | 12:30 |
| \sh | again....MoM filed no Universe Merges into bugzilla | 12:30 |
| \sh | only for main there are bugs in bugzilla | 12:30 |
| dholbach | sivang: the version that is in the archive | 12:30 |
| dholbach | sivang: last version that was touched (if you're on dapper) | 12:30 |
| Nafallo | \sh: you should have that in topic :-P | 12:31 |
| \sh | Nafallo: I'm just working on a wiki page | 12:31 |
| Nafallo | ah, nice :- | 12:31 |
| Nafallo | with the output of the grep? :-) | 12:31 |
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| tseng | grep --color :) | 12:32 |
| \sh | Nafallo: no | 12:39 |
| \sh | Nafallo: there is just more to do as just an grep | 12:39 |
| \sh | s/an/a/ | 12:39 |
| Nafallo | k | 12:41 |
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| \sh | phew | 12:43 |
| \sh | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge | 12:43 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:\sh] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | TOP PRIO: Merging: http://tinyurl.com/auu5d | somebody please help writing up the MOTU report: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUReportDraft/ | http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/LOGS/mom.20051107{b}.log - Grep for Universe for Universe Merges | How To Track Merge Status -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerg | ||
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:\sh] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | somebody please help writing up the MOTU report: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUReportDraft/ | http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/LOGS/mom.20051107{b}.log - Grep for Universe for Universe Merges | How To Track Merge Status -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge | ||
| dholbach | slomo: new upstream release: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-user-share/0.7/gnome-user-share-0.7.tar.gz | 12:54 |
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| janimo | dholbach, evince FTBFS ;) | 01:26 |
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| \sh | laters | 01:41 |
| dholbach | janimo: nice | 01:53 |
| Kyral | Mornin' | 01:56 |
| Kyral | mmm....new Cedega.... | 01:56 |
| Nafallo | Linux.Ubuntu.5.10.Breezy.Badger.MULTILANG.2005.Install-LiNiSO | 01:57 |
| Nafallo | WTF!? | 01:57 |
| Kyral | ?? | 01:57 |
| dholbach | janimo: broken archive / broken buildd | 01:57 |
| janimo | broken archive? | 01:57 |
| Nafallo | some group released 5.10 as a scene release :-P | 01:58 |
| janimo | hmm maybe the cause of BADSIG warnings since 2 days ago? | 01:58 |
| highvoltage | scene release? | 01:58 |
| janimo | and no new packages even if ther are uploads? | 01:58 |
| Nafallo | yepp, scene release. | 01:59 |
| Kyral | wazzat | 01:59 |
| Nafallo | they usally doesn't do free stuff ;-) | 01:59 |
| Kyral | Whats a scene releases? | 02:00 |
| Nafallo | a group of guys ripping non-free stuff like movies, music, programs and games over ftp-servers. | 02:01 |
| Nafallo | s/over/and uploading to warez / | 02:01 |
| Nafallo | welcometothescene might give some insight ;-) | 02:03 |
| Nafallo | .com that is | 02:03 |
| Kyral | And they released a debpack? | 02:04 |
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| Nafallo | nope, a scene-release of our free iso. | 02:04 |
| Kyral | And is this a good or bad thing? | 02:05 |
| Nafallo | nope, more like a stupid thing :-) | 02:05 |
| Lathiat | Nafallo: hahahaha | 02:05 |
| Kyral | A group of people who release normally legally questionable stuff released an Ubuntu ISO | 02:06 |
| Nafallo | yepp :-P | 02:06 |
| Kyral | more like defeating the purpose of the scene | 02:06 |
| Lathiat | Nafallo: welcometothescene.com is boring | 02:06 |
| Lathiat | welcometotehscene.com <-- interesting : | 02:06 |
| Lathiat | :) rather | 02:06 |
| Nafallo | tsss ;-) | 02:06 |
| Kyral | Man I hope my Shipit CDs come soon | 02:06 |
| Nafallo | I tried to watch the first they of tehscene :-P | 02:06 |
| Nafallo | s/they/videos/ (what was I REALLY going to write there?) | 02:07 |
| Nafallo | Kyral: if soon == 6.04, sure ;-) | 02:07 |
| Kyral | Clarkson has an Open House this weekend | 02:08 |
| Kyral | How awesome would it be to pass out Ubuntu CDs to the parents ;P | 02:08 |
| Nafallo | is that a school? | 02:08 |
| Kyral | Yah my university | 02:08 |
| Kyral | I mean the parents of the Computer Science hopefuls | 02:09 |
| Nafallo | make the principle pay for x number of empty cds and start burning then :-) | 02:09 |
| Kyral | Its a college :P | 02:09 |
| Kyral | www.clarkson.edu | 02:09 |
| Nafallo | so? ;-) | 02:09 |
| Kyral | Its a farkin' Open House | 02:09 |
| Tonio_ | hi everyone | 02:10 |
| Kyral | You give out burned CDs at InstallFests | 02:10 |
| Tonio_ | does anyone now about freenx ? | 02:10 |
| Kyral | not at Open Houses | 02:10 |
| Kyral | Tonio_, I do | 02:10 |
| Tonio_ | okay | 02:10 |
| Tonio_ | is there a reason that no package exists at the moment ? | 02:10 |
| Tonio_ | that sounds very astonishing to me.... | 02:10 |
| Kyral | I dunno | 02:11 |
| Kyral | and I have to get going | 02:11 |
| Kyral | I have class in an hour | 02:11 |
| Tonio_ | ok | 02:11 |
| Tonio_ | thanks ;) | 02:11 |
| Kyral | I'd suspect its a licensing issue thou | 02:11 |
| Tonio_ | hum, I'll have a look ;) | 02:12 |
| Tonio_ | Kyral: it is hosted on berlios and GPL | 02:12 |
| Tonio_ | there shouldn't be any issue packaging it | 02:12 |
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| Kyral | Then ask Seveas to merge his package into Dapper | 02:13 |
| Tonio_ | http://freenx.berlios.de/download.php | 02:13 |
| Tonio_ | yep, packages do exist.... they just have to be merged... | 02:13 |
| Kyral | Yah, I don't mean to sound tart. but I ain't a MOTU yet, and I'm hungry, and if I don't get food before class, I'm worthless :P | 02:14 |
| Kyral | cya :P | 02:14 |
| Tonio_ | see ya | 02:15 |
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| shawarma | I keep forgetting: Should new packages without a counterpart in Debian have ubuntu-something in its revision? | 02:19 |
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| Nafallo | shawarma: 0ubuntuX | 02:21 |
| shawarma | Nafallo: Roger. | 02:22 |
| shawarma | Nafallo: Thanks. | 02:22 |
| Nafallo | np :-) | 02:22 |
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| siretart | anyone working on merging right now? | 02:52 |
| siretart | I have written a small python script to faciliate reporting of bugs, I intend to use that for my own | 02:53 |
| siretart | if you are interested, please check this out: http://tiber.tauware.de/~siretart/motu-tools/ | 02:53 |
| siretart | (yes, this is an bzr branch) | 02:53 |
| siretart | \sh_away: please proofread http://tiber.tauware.de/~siretart/motu-tools/newmerge.py | 02:53 |
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| siretart | dholbach: just a proof check: are bugs filed like this correct? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mail-notification/+bug/4036 | 03:01 |
| dholbach | siretart: you want elmo to read those bugs? | 03:02 |
| siretart | dholbach: \sh told me that he (or someone else) searches once a day for these sync bugs and hands them over to elmo | 03:03 |
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| siretart | dholbach: I could also have elmo CC'ed in my script, I really don't mind | 03:04 |
| dholbach | hm | 03:04 |
| siretart | script is here: http://tiber.tauware.de/~siretart/motu-tools/newmerge.py | 03:04 |
| dholbach | i think he likes mail/irc-notifications better | 03:04 |
| siretart | I know | 03:04 |
| jsgotangco | hello hello | 03:04 |
| siretart | the question was rather if he want all syncs seperate or in one mail | 03:05 |
| Nafallo | lol last-uploader :-) | 03:05 |
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| dholbach | siretart: ask him :) | 03:06 |
| siretart | :/ | 03:07 |
| Nafallo | is he dangerous? :-P | 03:07 |
| Nafallo | either ask him or implement cc to him and face the consequenses ;-) | 03:08 |
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| siretart | I'd rather don't learn what consequences this could have | 03:09 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 03:10 |
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| siretart | hey Fuddl, hi magnon! | 03:31 |
| magnon | morning! | 03:31 |
| siretart | Fuddl: did you read my email concerning the quake3 debian package? | 03:31 |
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| Fuddl | siretart: not yet, but i forced sylpheed to fetch mail a second ago ;) | 03:33 |
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| Fuddl | siretart: i don't get the point. is he searching for a sponsor or would he like to sponsor the package? | 03:35 |
| siretart | Fuddl: afaiu he is searching for a sponsor | 03:35 |
| siretart | and has packages prepared | 03:35 |
| Fuddl | ah... this turns out in the second paragraph. | 03:36 |
| pef | I'm working on my first merge http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10185, and using dpkg-source dsc file I got a debian/changelog file where the sync seems to be done, does this request merge should be closed ? | 03:38 |
| siretart | pef: do you have a debdiff? then attach it to that bug and poke Riddel to upload it for you | 03:39 |
| pef | siretart: I just don't really understand why I got this entry on the changelog | 03:40 |
| siretart | pef: I dont get you | 03:41 |
| pef | siretart: if a new ubuntu version of konversation is uploaded, does this new archive put in the report ? | 03:42 |
| pef | http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/konversation/ | 03:42 |
| pef | here I mean | 03:42 |
| siretart | pef: ah, so you noticed a newer version is already in ubuntu | 03:44 |
| siretart | pef: in that case, close the bug, riddel can reopen it if necessary | 03:44 |
| pef | siretart: this bug is a request for a merge, and on the orig.tar.gz file, debian/changelog last entry is about this merge | 03:45 |
| siretart | pef: this bug is created automatically by MoM | 03:47 |
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| janimo | anybody using dapper pbuilder? | 04:31 |
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| janimo | pbuilder create fails here with lots of missing deps | 04:31 |
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| siretart | janimo: install breezy and upgrade to dapper | 04:36 |
| siretart | janimo: dapper is uninstallable atm | 04:36 |
| janimo | siretart, so pbuilder create breez and than update tha? | 04:37 |
| janimo | thanks | 04:37 |
| dholbach | see you guys... i'm off to berlin | 04:40 |
| siretart | cu dholbach! | 04:41 |
| hub | c-ya | 04:41 |
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| LS|-away- | hello everybody | 05:27 |
| LS|-away- | is there a possibility to submit "pakage-ideas" for drapper drake? | 05:27 |
| siretart | hi LS|-away- (not really away, are you? ;)) | 05:27 |
| === LS|-away- is now known as LordSavage | ||
| LordSavage | better ;) | 05:28 |
| LordSavage | ? | 05:28 |
| siretart | LS|-away-: if you want to submit new packages, upload them to http://revu.tauware.de | 05:28 |
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| LordSavage | thats not exactly what i want | 05:28 |
| LordSavage | 1. sorry for my poor english | 05:28 |
| LordSavage | 2. there is a gimp hack called "gimpshop". but there are no .deb pakages for ubuntu or even .deb pakages at all | 05:29 |
| siretart | so try to package it or find someone to package it for you ;) | 05:30 |
| LordSavage | i think it would be nice to have this pakage in the ubuntu sources | 05:30 |
| LordSavage | i got it running | 05:30 |
| LordSavage | by compiling from source | 05:30 |
| LordSavage | but it was a lot of work | 05:30 |
| LordSavage | and i am not able to create a .deb pakage :/ | 05:31 |
| LordSavage | no chance to get a pakage in hm? | 05:33 |
| siretart | list it on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates and hope somebody finds it there and has interest in packaging it | 05:34 |
| LordSavage | thx | 05:34 |
| LordSavage | uh, looks complicated ;D | 05:36 |
| LordSavage | could you log in and list it please. i have no account | 05:37 |
| LordSavage | i give you the information and you just have to c&p | 05:38 |
| LordSavage | hm? :) | 05:38 |
| siretart | you don't need an account to look at our wiki | 05:38 |
| LordSavage | but i need one to add a pakage idea | 05:39 |
| LordSavage | right? | 05:39 |
| elektranox | is sb. knowing gdesklets and a plugin for a terminal? | 05:40 |
| siretart | https://launchpad.net/+register | 05:42 |
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| hunger | AAARRRGGG!!! This build system SUX! | 05:43 |
| hunger | The distclean target depends on clean. | 05:43 |
| hunger | clean removes a file. | 05:43 |
| hunger | distclean creates it again afterwards. | 05:43 |
| Nafallo | ROTFL | 05:44 |
| slomo_ | hunger: better than one of the packages i've seen... distclean removes the whole generated autotools stuff ;) | 05:44 |
| hunger | And silly me is hacking on clean to get that damn file removed. | 05:44 |
| hunger | slomo_: That is how it should be IIRC:-) | 05:44 |
| LordSavage | [17:42] <siretart> https://launchpad.net/+register <- i am so happy that there is bugmenot.com ^^ | 05:44 |
| slomo_ | hunger: yes? imho not... distclean should reset the sourcetree in the same state like in the tarball... and in the tarball you have configure for example | 05:45 |
| hunger | slomo_: You are right. I was thinking about maintainer-clean. | 05:46 |
| === Nafallo hugs a bit on slomo | ||
| slomo_ | at least it was painfull to testbuild that package... configure was always gone after one build atemp ;) | 05:47 |
| slomo_ | thanks Nafallo =) | 05:47 |
| slomo_ | Nafallo: hmm... i had a question regarding swedish earlier today... hmm... i need to remember *grmpf* | 05:47 |
| hunger | make clean: file is gone. make distclean and back it is! | 05:47 |
| Nafallo | hihi | 05:47 |
| Nafallo | slomo_: I've been on jabber since 7-ish? ;-) | 05:47 |
| LordSavage | oh, gimpshop is alredy in the UniverseCandidates, i am sry | 05:48 |
| LordSavage | for bugging you | 05:48 |
| hub | LordSavage: I have it almost packaged here | 05:48 |
| slomo_ | hunger: another question... why is distclean _creating_ files? that's really bogus ;) | 05:48 |
| LordSavage | oh, its you | 05:48 |
| LordSavage | thx :) | 05:48 |
| LordSavage | this is why i didn't find it before | 05:48 |
| hunger | slomo_: Because somebody needs to hit those guys with a cluestick wrt. make. | 05:48 |
| hunger | slomo_: I volunteered to convert the complete system to automake, but they said they don't want that... Too complicated. | 05:49 |
| hunger | Instead they prefer to maintain a bunch of independent make-only systems that are stitched together. | 05:49 |
| slomo_ | hunger: hehe... it isn't easy when you've never worked with it... yes ;) but broken makefiles are harder... | 05:50 |
| hub | hunger: which package? | 05:50 |
| === hunger shrugs. | ||
| hunger | hub: Xen | 05:50 |
| hub | ho | 05:50 |
| hunger | hub: I tend to start with the easy stuff:-) | 05:50 |
| siretart | uhuh.. | 05:50 |
| hub | hunger: then go with sysprof | 05:51 |
| siretart | arn't there there already xen packages available somewhere? | 05:51 |
| hub | hunger: it is a nice thingy that need to build a kernel module | 05:51 |
| slomo_ | elektranox: ? | 05:51 |
| hunger | siretart: Yeap. I stole lots of stuff there. | 05:51 |
| hunger | siretart: They are terribly outdated. | 05:51 |
| elektranox | slomo: i prefere to speak german ^^ | 05:51 |
| slomo_ | elektranox: ok, but why do you create a DCC CHAT for that? ;) a simple query would be easier :P | 05:52 |
| elektranox | slomo: because my knowledge in IRC is not very big (4 time :p) | 05:52 |
| hunger | hub: Dunno... is building a module harder than trying to put a layer underneath the kernel? | 05:53 |
| hub | hunger: not sure. | 05:54 |
| hub | hunger: but it is not trivial | 05:54 |
| hunger | hub Guess so. | 05:55 |
| LordSavage | @hub: could you send me the gimpshop pakage, when it's ready, please? | 05:55 |
| LordSavage | i tried to msg you but... | 05:56 |
| LordSavage | Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) | 05:56 |
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| LordSavage | so, here is what i wrote | 05:57 |
| LordSavage | [17:51] <LordSavage> maybe you should put the photoshop shortcuts in the package too | 05:57 |
| LordSavage | [17:51] <LordSavage> http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/gimp_ps.php | 05:57 |
| LordSavage | [17:51] <LordSavage> thank you so far | 05:57 |
| LordSavage | [17:52] <LordSavage> they are linked on the gimpshop hp too | 05:57 |
| siretart | cool | 05:58 |
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| === \sh isn't here... | ||
| \sh | siretart: ping | 06:02 |
| siretart | \sh: pong | 06:02 |
| === siretart loves playing ping pong ;) | ||
| \sh | siretart: apt-cache showsrc | 06:02 |
| \sh | first | 06:02 |
| \sh | and second...a default key must be set | 06:02 |
| \sh | filing bug on package ace | 06:03 |
| \sh | gpg: can't query passphrase in batch mode | 06:03 |
| \sh | gpg: no default secret key: bad passphrase | 06:03 |
| \sh | gpg: [stdin] : clearsign failed: bad passphrase | 06:03 |
| siretart | \sh: apt-cache showsrc does not exit with error if package nonexistent | 06:03 |
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| siretart | \sh: and I assume an gpg agent has been setup correctly | 06:03 |
| \sh | siretart: ok... | 06:03 |
| \sh | siretart: shermann@r200-shermann:~/launchpad/motu-tools$ apt-cache show ace | 06:03 |
| \sh | shermann@r200-shermann:~/launchpad/motu-tools$ apt-cache show ace | 06:04 |
| \sh | W: Unable to locate package ace | 06:04 |
| \sh | E: No packages found | 06:04 |
| siretart | hm. I see | 06:04 |
| \sh | and a gpg agent is not setup by default | 06:04 |
| siretart | I knew about that problem, but I didn't expect it to happen THAT fast ;) | 06:04 |
| siretart | thats right.. | 06:04 |
| \sh | siretart: u asked me for review :) | 06:04 |
| \sh | what about starting up a gpg agent by first run? | 06:05 |
| \sh | but anyways... | 06:06 |
| \sh | i need to hurry....have to go shipping...forgot something | 06:06 |
| \sh | brb | 06:06 |
| siretart | \sh: cu later | 06:07 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 06:08 |
| Nafallo | seahorse-agent should be default in a MOTUs session ;-) | 06:08 |
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| ogra | Nafallo, real men use plain gpg ;) | 06:09 |
| LordSavage | hub? | 06:09 |
| Nafallo | ogra: I'm to lazy to type 30+ chars everytime I'll show my inbox in evo ;-) | 06:10 |
| ogra | you could save your passphrase ... | 06:11 |
| ogra | so you only have to type it once at startup.... | 06:12 |
| Nafallo | ehm... that's what seahorse-agent does indeed :-) | 06:12 |
| LordSavage | hub? | 06:15 |
| ogra | Nafallo, thats what evo does by default ... no need for seahorse agent | 06:17 |
| hub | LordSavage: I should upload them to REVU | 06:18 |
| hub | LordSavage: but I currently have issues installing them | 06:18 |
| Nafallo | ogra: baah. I rather have seahorse-agent for evo, gajim and debsign :-). | 06:18 |
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| LordSavage | hmm | 06:35 |
| LordSavage | ok | 06:35 |
| LordSavage | i wish you luck @hub | 06:35 |
| LordSavage | i'll go home now | 06:35 |
| LordSavage | work is finished | 06:35 |
| LordSavage | :D | 06:35 |
| LordSavage | cya | 06:35 |
| LordSavage | n germany we say "Feierabend" | 06:36 |
| LordSavage | ^^ | 06:36 |
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| \sh | re | 07:10 |
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| siretart | \sh: I patched newmerge.py | 07:16 |
| siretart | \sh: changes pushed, please recheck | 07:17 |
| \sh | bzr archive? | 07:17 |
| siretart | yepp | 07:17 |
| slomo_ | oh no | 07:20 |
| siretart | ? | 07:20 |
| slomo_ | x86 really needs some more registers :( | 07:20 |
| siretart | hrhr | 07:20 |
| slomo_ | "can't find a register in class 'GENERAL_REGS' while reloading 'asm'" | 07:20 |
| slomo_ | grmpf | 07:20 |
| \sh | siretart: wuhuu | 07:20 |
| siretart | \sh: happy now? - or horribly broken? | 07:21 |
| \sh | siretart: i love u so much :) | 07:21 |
| siretart | :) | 07:21 |
| \sh | siretart: it works like a charme | 07:21 |
| siretart | hehe | 07:21 |
| siretart | \sh: please mention it on the wiki page if you are happy with the mails it spits out | 07:22 |
| \sh | siretart: i will | 07:22 |
| \sh | trying to finish my dinner | 07:23 |
| slomo_ | siretart: hmm, i can workaround this problem when doing -fomit-frame-pointer... is this allowed to be added to CFLAGS for packages? | 07:23 |
| siretart | slomo_: this gains you an extra register, I don't see objections to add it if it makes a package build | 07:24 |
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| slomo_ | it makes debugging harder | 07:25 |
| LaserJock | is anybody working on the wxwidgets2.6 merge? | 07:26 |
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| slomo_ | jbailey: ping? | 07:28 |
| janimo | _slomo, what are you building? | 07:30 |
| slomo_ | janimo: ffmpeg | 07:30 |
| LaserJock | I made a patch to wxwidgets2.6 for breezy (Bug #3252) should I go ahead and include that in the merge? | 07:31 |
| janimo | I saw similar errors with qemu, hence that b-depends on gcc 3.4 | 07:31 |
| janimo | maybe the same is neede here? | 07:31 |
| slomo_ | janimo: seems unlikely... as there's simply one register missing :( | 07:32 |
| janimo | gcc 4 has a bug regarding this, that's why qemu depends on it because of some magic asm it uses | 07:32 |
| janimo | depends on 3.4 I mean | 07:33 |
| janimo | google for qemu gcc 4 maybe it's relevant for ffmpeg too | 07:33 |
| slomo_ | http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21291 | 07:33 |
| slomo_ | i found this bug | 07:33 |
| slomo_ | and it's fixed... hmm | 07:33 |
| janimo | or is it just buggy ffmpeg code? | 07:34 |
| janimo | how did get through debian then or upstream release? | 07:34 |
| slomo_ | i fixed a bug... defining RUNTIME_CPUDETECT... otherwise it compiles in what is available on that build-machine | 07:35 |
| slomo_ | and we get illegal instructions on other machines ;) | 07:35 |
| slomo_ | and this define enables some new assembly code | 07:35 |
| \sh | siretart: how long does it take to see the bugs send by this script in malone? | 07:41 |
| siretart | \sh: I think there is a cronjob every 5 min on lp side | 07:42 |
| \sh | siretart: ok... | 07:42 |
| \sh | i send two now...lets see what comes back | 07:42 |
| siretart | you'll get an email back from lp | 07:43 |
| LaserJock | if I make changes to the MOM created source package, do I need to bump the ubuntuX number? | 07:46 |
| \sh | siretart: and we need a local sendmail right? | 07:48 |
| \sh | LaserJock: no | 07:48 |
| \sh | LaserJock: incoporate your changes | 07:48 |
| \sh | and do a dch -a | 07:48 |
| LaserJock | \sh: k | 07:49 |
| \sh | LaserJock: and attach a debdiff from the old ubuntu version to the new merge version | 07:49 |
| \sh | LaserJock: to the bug | 07:49 |
| LaserJock | \sh: old ubuntu version as in the one that is in dapper right now? | 07:50 |
| \sh | LaserJock: yes | 07:50 |
| slomo_ | \sh: bad idea... when it's new upstream you will get all upstream changes too | 07:51 |
| LaserJock | \sh: ahh, ok | 07:51 |
| \sh | slomo_: oh shit...yes | 07:51 |
| \sh | LaserJock: forget it | 07:51 |
| LaserJock | \sh: so what should I debdiff to? | 07:51 |
| \sh | LaserJock: attach the diff.gz only | 07:52 |
| LaserJock | \sh: ok | 07:52 |
| \sh | LaserJock: after u did your changes and do a debuild | 07:52 |
| azeem | or do interdiff -z <old>.diff.gz <new>.diff.gz | 07:53 |
| azeem | possibly adding a -p1 if there are bogus differences | 07:53 |
| siretart | \sh: newmerge.py expects that /usr/bin/mail works, yes | 07:54 |
| LaserJock | azeem: great, now I'm going to confuse myself ;-) | 07:54 |
| siretart | this means a working postfix/exim4/ssmtp/nullmailer/whateversetup should be fine | 07:55 |
| slomo_ | LaserJock: or do a diff -Naur old-debian-directory new-debian-directory | 07:55 |
| slomo_ | ;) | 07:55 |
| LaserJock | wonderful | 07:55 |
| LaserJock | now, what is the dropped.patch telling me? | 07:57 |
| \sh | siretart: i have to mention it...when I get the mails back | 07:57 |
| slomo_ | the parts which couldn't be applied automatically | 07:57 |
| Nafallo | what is dropped :-) | 07:57 |
| LaserJock | from the new Debian version, correct? | 07:57 |
| slomo_ | no | 07:58 |
| slomo_ | from the ubuntu changes | 07:58 |
| LaserJock | oh, ok | 07:58 |
| Nafallo | LaserJock: a tip, read the file RESULT. what every file is is explained in there :-). | 07:59 |
| slomo_ | or merge the debian and ubuntu versions by hand... is easier sometimes ;) | 08:00 |
| \sh | siretart: i don't get any mail back :( | 08:02 |
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| LaserJock | could somebody briefly look at http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/wxwidgets2.6/wxwidgets2.6_debian-dropped.patch from me? | 08:02 |
| siretart | \sh: check your MTA's logfile. | 08:05 |
| siretart | \sh: was that mail really delivered? | 08:05 |
| siretart | \sh: what happens if you do a `echo foo | mail -s test sh@sourcecode.de` | 08:05 |
| \sh | siretart: it works | 08:08 |
| \sh | Nov 9 19:45:04 localhost postfix/smtp[11463] : 8C3163496119: to=<new@bugs.launchpad.net>, relay=mail.kde-coder.de[80.237.233.3] , delay=1, status=sent (250 Ok: queued as 18D3318C1C5) | 08:08 |
| siretart | check if the From: line is really correct | 08:09 |
| \sh | from shermann@sourcecode.de which is wrong | 08:10 |
| \sh | shit | 08:10 |
| \sh | is mail honouring export EMAIL | 08:13 |
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| jinty | hoi ajmitch, just bugging you again about that schooltool-live package | 08:15 |
| siretart | not sure, I configured exim to do rewriting | 08:15 |
| siretart | in /etc/email-addresses | 08:16 |
| slomo_ | i hate malone... i added a bug and tried to search for it... nothing found | 08:17 |
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| \sh | siretart: well..this works...it's my username | 08:18 |
| siretart | rewriting rewrites the From: address, you know | 08:19 |
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| slomo_ | siretart: what is to be done when a "merge" can be synced? telling elmo? or are we collection syncs and send him a big mail weekly or something? | 08:23 |
| \sh | grmpf | 08:24 |
| \sh | now it works | 08:24 |
| \sh | shitty wiki howto :) | 08:24 |
| siretart | slomo_: \sh volunteered to scan his inbox for open malone 'to be synced' bugs | 08:26 |
| jbailey | slomo_: Back from lunch, now hackig, 'sup? | 08:27 |
| slomo_ | \sh: what's your search string? ;) | 08:28 |
| slomo_ | jbailey: is compiling with -fomit-frame-pointer on x86 a solution when it fixes a FTBFS because of too few GP registers? | 08:29 |
| slomo_ | jbailey: it fixes the compilation... but does it have side effects? | 08:29 |
| \sh | grep -H "merge new debian version" /var/spool/imap/users/s/src_0001/Disitribution/Ubuntu/malone-bugs/* | 08:29 |
| slomo_ | \sh: so nothing sync specific? | 08:30 |
| \sh | slomo_: after that...checking for Status: to be synced | 08:30 |
| slomo_ | \sh: ok, i've done it wrong then... ;) *fix* | 08:31 |
| \sh | siretart: jetzt laeuft das scfript | 08:31 |
| \sh | oops | 08:31 |
| \sh | siretart: now the script works perfectly | 08:31 |
| \sh | :) | 08:31 |
| \sh | siretart: but we have to change again something....first...we have to check if the merge stuff from MoM works...and if we need them | 08:32 |
| \sh | siretart: so...sometimes it's good to update the bug afterwards | 08:32 |
| \sh | let me check if I can do something for updating bugs :) | 08:32 |
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| \sh | bradb_: welcome :) | 08:33 |
| \sh | bradb_: can u provide a mailinterface to malone for searching bugs with special status and stringsearch in the description? | 08:33 |
| \sh | bradb_: and yes I know, i'm insane | 08:34 |
| siretart | \sh: sure, just fix it in your branch and I'll merge from you | 08:35 |
| \sh | siretart: public_html on tiber? | 08:35 |
| jbailey | slomo_: It could make debugging *really* suck. | 08:35 |
| bradb_ | \sh: I dunno. It's unlikely that kind of thing would be on the radar in the next six months though, tbh. | 08:35 |
| siretart | \sh: I don't mind, anything http accessible is okay for bzr | 08:35 |
| \sh | siretart: i mean did u enable public_html in homedirs? | 08:36 |
| \sh | bradb_: but the email interface is very nice..thx for the work on it | 08:37 |
| lfittl | How do I use pbuilder with a package that build-depends on a package that is not yet in the repositories (and therefore not available to pbuilder..)? | 08:37 |
| bradb_ | \sh: I'll forward your praise onto the relevant people (BjornT and the sab :) | 08:37 |
| siretart | \sh: sure, you just used it to branch it ;) | 08:37 |
| bradb_ | It's good to hear that you like it. | 08:37 |
| \sh | lfittl: add a local apt get repository to your local pbuilder | 08:38 |
| slomo_ | jbailey: ok, the gcc manual isn't that explicit about it ;) but i'll do it for now until it's fixed upstream... i don't want to mess with their assembler code, i don't even understand the C version of it ;) | 08:38 |
| lfittl | \sh: is there any documentation about local apt get repositories? | 08:38 |
| \sh | lfittl: yes | 08:38 |
| \sh | lfittl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocalAptGetRepositories | 08:39 |
| lfittl | thanks :) | 08:39 |
| \sh | lfittl: if it's to complicate...please blame me | 08:39 |
| Nafallo | \sh: no. let's blame slomo :-). | 08:39 |
| \sh | Nafallo: na.I wrote it the first time...i think | 08:40 |
| \sh | incoming = /home/shermann/archive/mini-dinstall/incoming | 08:40 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 08:40 |
| \sh | yeah thats me | 08:40 |
| slomo_ | i never touched it :P | 08:40 |
| \sh | hehe | 08:40 |
| Nafallo | slomo_: so? ;-) | 08:40 |
| \sh | confusion | 08:40 |
| Nafallo | no confusion here, just trying to find something to blame slomo for :-P | 08:41 |
| \sh | hahaha | 08:41 |
| slomo_ | Nafallo: blame me for thinking the merge procedure is too complicated currently ;) it takes more time to get everything right than to test and/or merge the package :P | 08:42 |
| Nafallo | slomo_: I agree :-). I want MOM to file bugs ;-). | 08:43 |
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| \sh | slomo_: wait an hour...and we have a nice tool to work with :) | 08:50 |
| slomo_ | \sh: perfect :) i'll do some other stuff until then ;) | 08:50 |
| \sh | siretart: did again an awesome job for a nice python tool | 08:51 |
| slomo_ | hehe | 08:51 |
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| LaserJock | if a package no longer needs any patches should I remove the directory and the include from debian/rules or should I just remove the patch from debian/patches? | 09:03 |
| slomo_ | LaserJock: make the delta between debian and ubuntu as small as possible | 09:04 |
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| lfittl | \sh: Local repository creation worked without any problem, thanks again :) | 09:13 |
| \sh | lfittl: you're welcome | 09:16 |
| \sh | siretart: ug...NamedTemporaryFile and os.unlink...i got some good errors | 09:17 |
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| slomo_ | siretart: i'm merging mplayer atm... do we still want the mplayer-amd64 metapackage? | 09:19 |
| slomo_ | siretart: i guess yes? | 09:19 |
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| \sh | siretart: unping..my bug | 09:24 |
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| siretart | slomo_: for backporting reason I'd say yes | 09:31 |
| \sh | siretart: bzr merge http://tiber.tauware.de/~shermann/motu-tools/ | 09:31 |
| slomo_ | siretart: ok | 09:31 |
| siretart | slomo_: that way, it would be easier for people adding breezy-backports in a few months | 09:31 |
| \sh | siretart: i added an update command with -u/--update and a -b/--bug <bugno> | 09:32 |
| \sh | siretart: so now we can update bugs as wlel | 09:32 |
| siretart | err, I merged, but there wasn't any changes? | 09:32 |
| \sh | gr | 09:32 |
| \sh | didn't commit moment | 09:33 |
| siretart | :) | 09:33 |
| \sh | now | 09:33 |
| \sh | and please don't look on my commit statements in the merge...a lot of grr and grmpf | 09:34 |
| \sh | it's apple style commit comments | 09:34 |
| siretart | ;) | 09:35 |
| \sh | but it works | 09:35 |
| Amaranth | apple style? | 09:35 |
| siretart | I'd perhaps split new and update code in 2 seperate functions, but its a small tool, it's okay | 09:35 |
| \sh | Amaranth: did u ever see the khtml update comments? | 09:35 |
| \sh | siretart: it's quick and dirty | 09:36 |
| \sh | siretart: lets make an gui tool out of it :) | 09:36 |
| \sh | s/an/a | 09:36 |
| Amaranth | \sh: ok, but everyone does that :P | 09:36 |
| siretart | hrhr | 09:36 |
| Amaranth | I think it was tberman who does the best ones, a GNOME guy. :) | 09:36 |
| siretart | \sh: it is CLI by purpose | 09:36 |
| siretart | pushing your changes | 09:36 |
| \sh | Amaranth: but apple has more fcks in it | 09:36 |
| siretart | good night everyone | 09:36 |
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| slomo_ | gn8 siretart | 09:37 |
| \sh | good night siretart | 09:37 |
| \sh | siretart: great work btw | 09:37 |
| Amaranth | \sh: Do they have any bits of code with comments like "UGLY BUT IT WORKS SO DON'T FUCKING TOUCH IT!!!"? :) | 09:37 |
| \sh | Amaranth: yes...and they have "SHIT CODE" | 09:38 |
| Amaranth | heh | 09:38 |
| Amaranth | and that crap actually makes it into khtml upstream? | 09:38 |
| Amaranth | usually comments like that are a good sign of a logic error | 09:38 |
| \sh | ok | 09:39 |
| \sh | siretart: I | 09:39 |
| \sh | i'm publishing your work :) | 09:39 |
| \sh | if anybody wants to deal with beta software :) | 09:40 |
| \sh | for the merges and syncs | 09:40 |
| \sh | please do the following :) | 09:40 |
| \sh | 1. vi /etc/apt/sources.list | 09:40 |
| \sh | 2. add deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/snapshot/bzr/ ./ | 09:40 |
| \sh | 09:40 | |
| \sh | 3. apt-get update | 09:40 |
| \sh | 4. apt-get install bzr bzrtools bzrk | 09:41 |
| \sh | 5. mkdir ~/launchpad/ | 09:41 |
| \sh | cd ~/launchpad | 09:41 |
| \sh | bzr branch http://tiber.tauware.de/~siretart/motu-tools | 09:41 |
| \sh | inside motu-tools there is a small tiny but good tool | 09:41 |
| \sh | it's called newmerge.py | 09:41 |
| \sh | to generate a new merge bug use this: | 09:42 |
| \sh | ./newmerge.py -n <sourcepackage> | 09:42 |
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| \sh | u will be asked to export LPID which means LPID == Launchpad ID | 09:42 |
| \sh | u need to update your local mail transport agent to work properly to send out mails | 09:43 |
| \sh | if u have postfix, ask me | 09:43 |
| \sh | if u test a source package which and it needs a sync, and u already filed a bug towards malone | 09:43 |
| slomo_ | \sh: does it only allow local MTA? | 09:43 |
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| \sh | slomo_: yes | 09:44 |
| \sh | slomo_: for a work of 20 minutes...it's good | 09:44 |
| slomo_ | \sh: oh no :( hmm, maybe i'll try to patch it to get remote smtp/smtps working ;) | 09:44 |
| \sh | slomo_: why? configure your local mta to do this for y | 09:44 |
| \sh | ou | 09:44 |
| \sh | ok..where was I | 09:45 |
| \sh | ah yes | 09:45 |
| \sh | if u test a source package which and it needs a sync, and u already filed a bug towards malone | 09:45 |
| \sh | then call this tool with | 09:45 |
| \sh | ./newmerge -u -b <bugno> -s | 09:45 |
| \sh | which means: -u == update bug , -b <bugno> == bugnumber of malone to update, -s == insert sync text | 09:46 |
| \sh | you will get a small help with ./newmerge.py --help | 09:46 |
| \sh | THIS IS EXPERIMENTAL SOFTWARE | 09:46 |
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| \sh | siretart: do u need still aptitude running? | 09:53 |
| slomo_ | damn... mplayer is evil ;) | 09:55 |
| highvoltage | how evil? | 09:59 |
| slomo_ | it's hard to maintain the package ;) | 10:00 |
| ogra | slomo_, regarding all the other packages you play with, youre the master of evil ;) | 10:03 |
| ogra | (so it should be no prob for to maintain that little mplayer thingie ;) ) | 10:04 |
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| slomo_ | ogra: :P what packages do you mean for example? :) | 10:05 |
| ogra | faad etc :) | 10:05 |
| ogra | ffmpeg :) | 10:05 |
| slomo_ | oh, they're much easier to maintain ;) except transcode maybe | 10:06 |
| crimsun | (transcode should be fixed in Dapper...) | 10:06 |
| ogra | you touch all the evil stuff i wouldnt want get my hands contamined with, kudos :) | 10:06 |
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| slomo_ | crimsun: yes, i'm searching for a solution currently... is it possible to simply create a shared library out of a static one? | 10:07 |
| slomo_ | ogra: thanks ;) but someone has to do it | 10:10 |
| ivoks | hi | 10:12 |
| ivoks | want to see something really funny? | 10:12 |
| ivoks | http://mirrors.playboy.com/ | 10:12 |
| ivoks | trust me, you want to see this :) | 10:12 |
| janimo | blah, no pr0n just FOSS :( | 10:13 |
| slomo_ | lol | 10:13 |
| \sh | why we don't want to have Seveas bug bot for universe bugs in ubuntu-motu? | 10:14 |
| Seveas | ivoks, roflol | 10:15 |
| Seveas | free porn - euh.. | 10:15 |
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| LaserJock | can someone look at my bug on MOTUToMerge for me (Jordan Mantha)? | 10:21 |
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| Pygi | Hello | 10:27 |
| Pygi | can anyway point me what should I do to become a MOTU? Thank you :) | 10:27 |
| Seveas | Pygi, wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | 10:29 |
| Seveas | read, follow links, find some place to fit in and contribute :) | 10:29 |
| Pygi | gah, I am currently an administrator in UbuntuInstantServer Development team | 10:30 |
| Pygi | and that's why I need to become MOTU, so I could upload packages :) | 10:30 |
| \sh | LaserJock: work further on...the MOTUs will have a look on the MOTU Hopeful bugs later along this week..don't worry...we will come back to u :) | 10:32 |
| LaserJock | \sh: just didn't want it to get overlooked, that's all ;-) | 10:33 |
| Pygi | ok, thanks anyway Seveas, I see you'r busy :) | 10:33 |
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| \sh | LaserJock: u won't :) | 10:38 |
| \sh | Pygi: to become a motu u have to do a couple of things ... fixing bugs, doing merges etc. and first of all, become an ubuntu member | 10:39 |
| \sh | Pygi: the best thing is, to work with us on our transitions and doing some bugfixing works | 10:39 |
| Pygi | ah,ok, thanks :) | 10:39 |
| Pygi | so gimme some task I should do :) | 10:39 |
| \sh | Pygi: check the topic :) | 10:40 |
| \sh | hmmm...implemented another function for newmerge.py | 10:41 |
| Pygi | \sh: Maybe I could make a logo for Motu :) | 10:43 |
| \sh | Pygi: we have one | 10:43 |
| Pygi | gah, ok :P | 10:43 |
| \sh | Pygi: it's castle greyscull with He-Man in front of it | 10:43 |
| Pygi | \sh: Gah | 10:44 |
| Pygi | \sh: no comment | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | \sh: why isn't it on MOTULogo ? | 10:44 |
| \sh | LaserJock: hehe...just joking :) | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | \sh: seriously, we should have something | 10:45 |
| ajmitch | "we don't have a drinking problem" ;) | 10:45 |
| LaserJock | \sh: a buddy of my keeps laughing at me everytime I say masters of the universe | 10:45 |
| \sh | ajmitch: *g( | 10:45 |
| LaserJock | he says he gets the He-Man theme song stuck in his head ;-) | 10:46 |
| \sh | argl | 10:46 |
| \sh | damn xchat | 10:46 |
| Pygi | gah :P | 10:49 |
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| lfittl | Is it ok to ignore this lintian error? "E: cafix_0.2.0-0ubuntu1_i386.changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file dapper" | 10:58 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 11:02 |
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| Pygi | hi | 11:02 |
| LaserJock | hi minghua | 11:07 |
| \sh | siretart: u can merge my motu-tools branch into yours...I added a close bug function | 11:08 |
| sistpoty | ' \sh: motu-tools? | 11:12 |
| \sh | sistpoty: quick dirty python hack from siretart to file bugs against malone via mail interface | 11:13 |
| sistpoty | useful for merging? | 11:13 |
| \sh | sistpoty: | 11:14 |
| \sh | hyes | 11:14 |
| \sh | right now it's only written for merging bugs in malone | 11:14 |
| sistpoty | cool... may i get these? (where?) | 11:14 |
| \sh | latest version bzr branch http://tiber.tauware.de/~siretart/motu-tools | 11:14 |
| sistpoty | thx... I'll take a look | 11:14 |
| \sh | latest development version: bzr branch http://tiber.tauware.de/~shermann/motu-tools | 11:15 |
| \sh | shermann branch commited now | 11:16 |
| minghua | hi LaserJock | 11:17 |
| sistpoty | ' \sh: how can i checkout this bzr repo? i just tried "bzr pull http://...." but that bailed out :( | 11:18 |
| Seveas | about the motu logo, how about something like http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i4268 :) | 11:18 |
| \sh | sistpoty: bzr branch | 11:19 |
| sistpoty | ah, thx | 11:19 |
| \sh | sistpoty: use the daily bzr snapshot from jeff baily | 11:19 |
| \sh | sistpoty: do u need the repos url? | 11:19 |
| \sh | sistpoty: deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/snapshot/bzr/ ./ | 11:19 |
| \sh | sistpoty: bzr rocks...and was quite interessting to talk to some bzr devs... | 11:19 |
| sistpoty | yes it rocks :) | 11:20 |
| sistpoty | will get the newest version asap ;) | 11:20 |
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| \sh | oh wow..this the best way to work | 11:38 |
| \sh | laying in bed, ssh to my nc6000 and compile there the packages | 11:38 |
| sivang | \sh: heh | 11:39 |
| sivang | rehi all | 11:39 |
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| Seveas | \sh, nc6000 is a nice laptop | 11:45 |
| Seveas | I have one too :) | 11:45 |
| \sh | Seveas: yeah...is quite fast...better to compile stuff | 11:46 |
| \sh | Seveas: but working from the portege r200 | 11:46 |
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