=== ubuntulog [n=ubuntulo@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | somebody please help writing up the MOTU report: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUReportDraft/ | http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/LOGS/mom.20051107{b}.log - Grep for Universe for Universe Merges | How To Track Merge Status -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by \sh at Wed Nov 9 12:46:11 2005 [12:18] is there any good way of seeing the status of the merge? [12:19] <\sh> LaserJock: buildwise? [12:19] <\sh> or what status [12:20] <\sh> LaserJock: u r not member of the MOTU team in launchpad? [12:20] \sh: no, just a wannabe [12:20] <\sh> LaserJock: MOTU team != Ubuntu Dev team [12:20] \sh: what do you mean then [12:21] motu team is an open group [12:21] for bugtracking [12:21] <\sh> LaserJock: give me your LP id [12:21] as far as LP is conserned [12:21] \sh: ok, my LP id is mantha [12:22] btw, is it possible to add a team to the motu LP team [12:22] <\sh> LaserJock: yes it is [12:23] <\sh> LaserJock: are u subscribed to universe-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com? [12:23] \sh: yes [12:23] <\sh> ok...so u see the merge bugs [12:23] <\sh> search for merge new debian version [12:24] <\sh> in your mail client [12:24] <\sh> then u have all bugs and all status [12:24] \sh: yeah, I was more about number wise and overall progress [12:25] <\sh> LaserJock: oh no...that's our problem [12:25] <\sh> LaserJock: but this is not really the problem [12:26] <\sh> LaserJock: btw...there was a small competition for breezy....if you take over my uploads during merges and transitions...u r the next one who will be mentioned in dholbachs motu report..and you will be the MOTU of the month :) [12:26] <\sh> LaserJock: so go and rock hard :) I'll upload your packages..promised [12:27] <\sh> LaserJock: in your name and my signature [12:27] <\sh> wtf.. [12:27] <\sh> -> Considering libjack0.80.0-dev [12:27] <\sh> -> Trying libjack0.80.0-dev [12:27] <\sh> -> Cannot install libjack0.80.0-dev; apt errors follow: [12:27] <\sh> who stole libjack0.80.0 [12:33] \sh: if I've asked elmo and requested a sync on #ubuntu-devel, but nothing happened (for 20 hours), what should I do? === Jimbob [n=jcape@c-67-175-222-235.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:33] <\sh> minghua: are u motu? [12:33] <\sh> minghua: with upload rights? [12:33] <\sh> minghua: if not..elmo doesn't listen [12:33] \sh: no [12:33] okay I see the problem [12:34] <\sh> minghua: what package? [12:34] so can anybody request it for me? it's libmath++ 0.0.4-2 [12:34] all breezy changes were made by me (c++ transition), and they can be dropped [12:35] I've tested building the unstable package in dapper [12:35] <\sh> minghua: is it on the merge list? === farruinn [n=nathan@cpe-69-201-10-6.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:36] \sh: what list? the ~scott/ongoing-merge/ list? === Jimbob_ [n=jcape@c-67-175-222-235.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] \sh: I can go through the launchpad bug -> wiki page procedure if that's easier for MOTUs to follow [12:37] <\sh> minghua: yes...the urls in the topic [12:37] \sh: yes, it's in that list [12:38] \sh: that's the reason why I'm looking at it [12:39] <\sh> file a bug in malone (read how to track merges on the wiki) for this package [12:39] <\sh> pls [12:39] \sh: okay, I'll follow the procedure in topic, then [12:39] <\sh> minghua: please...it [12:39] \sh: thanks for the guidance [12:40] <\sh> 's easier for us..random request are nice, but not in this timeframe...because we have to get all the merge packages in [12:41] crap, a water leak just started above my desk === StrikeForce [n=marc@203-59-15-65.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] woo, new networkmanager === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-47-165.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mirno [n=mirspcm@jem75-4-82-241-240-198.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:07] man, changelogs in spanish are hard to read ;-) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] <\sh> LaserJock: well..yes..that's why we TRY to write in english :) [01:13] \sh: oh well, nice to have http://babelfish.altavista.com/ around [01:14] <\sh> LaserJock: but why are the changelogs in spanish? [01:14] \sh: it is partially in spanish. http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/wordtrans/wordtrans_debian.patch [01:15] <\sh> nice [01:16] <\sh> and I smoked a 25 cigarettes in less then 6h...that's world record for me [01:16] wow, I couldn't get through 1 [01:18] ok, so if the merged.patch looks ok and it builds fine what should I put in the bug report? [01:19] <\sh> LaserJock: pending upload [01:19] <\sh> LaserJock: and put it on MOTUToMerge [01:20] \sh: but I don't need to include scott's package or anything. It is enough to just say it is all good. [01:21] <\sh> did u include the url of scotts merge directory? if yes..thats all [01:21] ok [01:21] i got a really n00b question: where can i set which email-addy mail uses? [01:21] <\sh> LaserJock: and it would be nice to have a diff/debdiff etc. from u with the changelog changed to your name [01:21] <\sh> sistpoty: postfix? [01:21] sistpoty: context? [01:22] mail should come from exim4 [01:22] <\sh> sistpoty: rewriting [01:22] <\sh> argl...ask siretart he is the exim4 expert [01:22] no, actually not rewriting [01:22] just sending mail with /usr/bin/mail [01:22] as in motu-tools *g* [01:23] args... mailx that is [01:24] <\sh> sistpoty: yes..but exim4 does the "send to relay" and "rewriting" [01:24] <\sh> of your email address including your username [01:24] -a Specify additional header fields on the command line such as "X- [01:24] Loop: foo@bar" etc. You have to use quotes if the string con [01:24] tains spaces. This argument may be specified more than once, the [01:24] headers will then be concatenated. [01:24] -a From: motu-tools@localhost [01:24] X-From [01:25] tseng: thx... will try that [01:25] no X [01:25] looking at a mail header [01:25] From: Scott James Remnant [01:26] \sh: what do mean about the changelog [01:26] <\sh> LaserJock: u want to be recognized as the guy who checked the package [01:26] tseng: did not work :( [01:26] sistpoty: no? [01:26] <\sh> LaserJock: so change to changelog (man dch) [01:27] tseng: 2005-11-10 01:26:18 1Ea0Gg-0006Hs-A5 <= stefan@localhost.localdomain U=stefan P=local S=307 [01:27] \sh: even if I didn't have to change anything? [01:27] <\sh> LaserJock: even then [01:27] \sh: wow, cool ;-) [01:28] <\sh> LaserJock: it's your work dude....your compile time is expensive :) [01:28] tseng: but i think i fiddle with exim a little bit... just thought there might be an easier way [01:28] i know ive done it [01:28] in my crontab at work [01:28] but i cant get it here [01:28] sorry [01:30] tseng: the from is correct (in the mail), maybe it's return-path [01:31] ah [01:31] print the full header [01:36] tseng: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4277 === Jimb0b [n=jcape@c-67-173-146-239.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:37] hm i guess it is Return-path like you said [01:37] tried setting both? [01:38] will do [01:41] <\sh> grmpf [01:41] <\sh> because of the discussion in #launchpad I didn't upload my package the right way [01:41] <\sh> fck [01:45] \sh: Oh yeah, blame me. [01:46] <\sh> womble: hehe..no it's my fault because I didn [01:46] <\sh> 't pay attention to my upload [01:47] \sh: Something about "welcome to the world of the Debian Developers"... [01:49] <\sh> womble: well...it's really a deja vu...I had the same discussion a couple of week before...with some upstream authors..but I just brought sabdfl in...who was talking to them..and actually they understood that launchpad is just a tool..if the source is release or not..doesn't matter, as long it is free as in free beer. [01:49] <\sh> womble: that is the change at least..software should be free as in free speech..but has to be free as in beer ,) [01:49] \sh: Let's move this back to #launchpad, shall we? [01:50] <\sh> womble: nah..I have some work to do...and I'm tired of this [01:50] <\sh> womble: and my work is free as in free speech and free as in free beer :) [01:50] \sh: As it should be. [01:51] <\sh> womble: no...work should be oh no,..my work...i don't go any further.... [01:56] LaserJock: wxwidgets2.6 diff (#4049) tweaked & approved, building [01:57] tseng: i'm really dumb... all I needed to adjust was /etc/email-adresses *g* [01:57] just found that after looking into exims rewrite rules [01:58] crimsun: thanks [01:58] ok, I gotta get home now. Thanks for all the help today guys. Hopefully I can get a few more merges done tonight [02:00] <\sh> crimsun: we missed u at ubz [02:00] \sh: unfortunately I have a prior contract [02:01] \sh: hopefully UBZ was great :-) [02:01] <\sh> it was .. but thinking about my private life interfering even thousand miles away... [02:03] ah yeah === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] hi all [02:33] <\sh> moins zakame [02:33] I was just about to ask how to do the mom merging, but the /topic stopped me ;) thanks! [02:33] wohoo finally newmerge.py really rocks :) [02:34] <\sh> sistpoty: my version does update and closing as well [02:34] ' \sh: I just tested new and update :) [02:34] <\sh> but closing is a bit strange..cause it needs bug number and a source package as a product [02:35] hm... if I want a package synced, is it still ping elmo? [02:35] <\sh> sistpoty: yepp [02:35] k [02:35] <\sh> siretart: but..please...before u work on a package file a bug [02:36] <\sh> grmpf [02:36] <\sh> sistpoty: i mean [02:36] <\sh> sistpoty: and if it needs a sync..then update the bug with -u -b -s [02:36] that's what i just did ;) [02:36] <\sh> now grab my source [02:36] he, I already have it :) [02:37] <\sh> and if it actually build...do -c -b sistpoty: would be nice to have a documentation for it [02:38] hehe, actually I'm just thinking one step further... a wrote very small MoMParser this evening [02:39] so this could be displayed by a little web-frontend [02:39] the hard part will to somehow get the mails from malone and parse these to update stats [02:39] <\sh> sistpoty: ah no [02:39] no? [02:39] <\sh> mom is bad...it will be included in hct [02:40] <\sh> sistpoty: I want to see it as a replacement to debian bts cli tool [02:40] <\sh> used by cli or with gui [02:40] actually I'm not thinking of a very big thing... just list what packages are left to merge with a link to scotts dir and a status field [02:40] reportbug? [02:40] <\sh> sistpoty: well...u didn't see the hct demo of scott :) [02:41] <\sh> ROCK I say [02:41] <\sh> zakame: yepp [02:41] <\sh> sistpoty: if this works....u don't need mom anymore :) [02:41] sounds good :) [02:41] <\sh> sistpoty: mom is part of hct [02:42] <\sh> sistpoty: so i hope for dapper +1 we can use it [02:43] ok, than I won't put efforts in this [02:43] <\sh> sistpoty: write a little documentation to newmerge.py :) that would be great :) [02:44] ' \sh: but not before sleeping ;) [02:45] <\sh> sistpoty: hahaha [02:46] hmmm, can bugs in debian/changelog close malone bugs? [02:46] <\sh> no [02:46] I was missing that kind of functionality from the debian bts :) [02:47] ' \sh: should I put the docs on MOTUToMerge? [02:47] <\sh> sistpoty: yepp... [02:47] <\sh> and obvious in a branch of motu-tools :) [02:48] ' \sh ok... then I'll start now... but if it's only bullsh*t, that's because I'm tired ;) [02:49] <\sh> sistpoty: make a branch in your public_html on tiber.. i'll merge it then === hunger [n=hunger@p54A6451E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:49] ok, will do [02:49] wb hunger === Kyral [n=Linux@hamlin-165-3914.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:50] <\sh> sistpoty: rock :) [02:51] Yo peoples! [02:51] hi Kyral [02:51] <\sh> crimsun: if u want to use newmerge.py get bzr running and grab our branch :) === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:56] The best part about upgrading Emacs? [02:56] \sh: will read scrollback [02:56] Having every plugin re-bytecompile :P [02:57] Kyral: w00t === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-227-135-40.dsl.renocs.nvbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-47-165.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:03] <\sh> ok last package today [03:04] <\sh> aeh not today..but for this morning :) [03:04] heh [03:04] hi \sh [03:04] <\sh> moins whiprush [03:05] \sh: so how many is that for you today? === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487F536.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] I take it you guys had excellent smoking bofs in my absence? [03:05] <\sh> whiprush: for sure [03:05] <\sh> but it was cold [03:05] heh [03:06] <\sh> LaserJock: not much [03:06] <\sh> 8 packages..thats a bad run [03:06] \sh: seems like a lot. Does anybody know how many there are total? [03:07] <\sh> 1300? [03:07] lol [03:07] <\sh> no joke [03:07] \sh: in universe? holy cow [03:07] And how many weeks before the first week [03:07] err [03:07] freeze? [03:07] <\sh> 6 weeks? [03:07] Okay, is it safe to say that we are fucked? [03:08] Kyral: heck no [03:08] Kyral: we are the MOTU(and wannabes) ;-) [03:08] lol [03:08] <\sh> Kyral: u don't know what we did for breezy, do u? [03:09] <\sh> several transitions..etc. [03:09] yah [03:09] <\sh> but not so tightend times [03:09] <\sh> but now...this is really our time...lets show the world...that we're better then gentoo redhat and suse alltogether :) [03:09] lol [03:09] Yah as soon as I get the hang of this "merge" thing [03:10] <\sh> Kyral: i mean it...for me this is the second run over universe..and this time it's all easier somehow.. [03:11] Kyral: just think, by dapper+2 we might know what we are doing ;-) [03:12] <\sh> Kyral: to do the first steps is the difficult thing to do....but when u know what you can do and how...u will walk over the water...like jesus... [03:13] \sh: w00t [03:13] <\sh> and the best thing is...u r allowed to do mistakes [03:13] <\sh> and believe me...i did a lot of them [03:13] \sh: what, I thought we were flogged for mistakes [03:14] <\sh> flogged? [03:14] <\sh> no [03:14] <\sh> why [03:14] <\sh> this is universe... [03:14] hihi [03:14] <\sh> u will have bad nightmares... [03:14] <\sh> because u fcked up millions of users [03:14] <\sh> but flogged? no [03:14] <\sh> u only have to close the bugs [03:14] <\sh> ;) [03:16] <\sh> it's just like being on tv [03:17] live tv [03:17] <\sh> ok..now its time to go to bed [03:17] sh: /home/sistpoty/public_html/motu-tools [03:17] + \ [03:17] ;) [03:18] sweet dreams \sh [03:18] gn8 \sh [03:18] cya \sh, thanks for all the help [03:18] it's actually pretty simple. The first thing you do is read REPORT. Then you read each of debian.patch and ubuntu.patch and compare it to merged.patch. If everything that was in ubuntu.patch has been subsumed by debian.patch, then merge.patch should be trivial/tiny. In that case, you ask for a sync. Otherwise, you'll have to merge. [03:18] <\sh> sistpoty: aeh [03:18] <\sh> sistpoty: it's not a branch [03:18] hm? [03:19] crimsun: ooh [03:19] <\sh> bzr merge http://tiber.tauware.de/~sistopy/motu-tools/ [03:19] the key is that we always prefer to sync from Debian if at all possible [03:19] <\sh> argl [03:19] <\sh> na its not [03:20] ' \sh I did this with "bzr branch /path/to/your/repo motu-tool" (in public_html) [03:21] <\sh> sistpoty: hmmm [03:21] <\sh> strange [03:21] I suppose I can bzr add/bzr commit just regularly in a branch? [03:21] <\sh> on tiber it worked [03:22] maybe because I used direct path to your repo instead of http://... [03:22] <\sh> no [03:22] <\sh> i merged it now into my branch [03:22] <\sh> this works [03:23] cool :) [03:23] ok, I'm off to bed as well gn8 everybody [03:23] dreams sistpoty [03:23] <\sh> good night sistpoty [03:23] <\sh> and thx [03:23] np ;) [03:23] thx for writing it ;) [03:24] <\sh> siretart: u can merge ~shermann/motu-tools/ with close function and documentation of sistopy [03:24] <\sh> ok...good night dudes. [03:24] <\sh> cu later this day [03:24] cya [03:30] is it a bad sign when the debdiff is bigger than the .orig.tar.gz ? === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:31] LaserJock: ugh. That should rarely, if ever, happen. [03:31] I can think of autotools-dev pulling in config.{guess,sub} [03:31] wfmath [03:31] that's about it [03:32] the debian.debdiff is 493Kb [03:33] does it involve config.{guess,sub}? === jdong_ [n=jdong@d149-67-97-102.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] hey, why's lilypond so out of sync with Sid? [03:35] although, that isn't as terrible because it is the diff between Debian versions, but it does seem to be mostly automake [03:35] jdong_: because it ftbfs probably [03:35] I'll look at it after I finish this merge [03:36] jdong_: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/l/lilypond/2.6.3-9/ [03:36] (just as I said) [03:42] it's quite simple. It ftbfs due to mftrace being older than required. [03:42] heh, looks like dependency's name's changed [03:43] oh, yeah, I see [03:43] anything we will do to remedy the situation? [03:43] there are people getting restless without their lilypond [03:43] like push through a new mftrace? [03:43] I'll fix mftrace now if possible, then fix lilypond [03:43] thanks man [03:44] can you bug me via e-mail (jdong@ubuntu.com) once you get the fixes uploaded? [03:44] mftrace is on our merge list, so we would have gotten to it regardless [03:44] I can, or you can monitor dapper-changes [03:45] ok, thanks [03:45] and I'll probably subscribe to dapper-changes once I'm ready for all the e-mail goodness [03:47] you can just read the thread view [03:48] http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2005-November/thread.html [03:49] mmkay [03:49] probably similar explanation for kmymoney2? [03:49] nope, yet to be built [03:50] haven't looked. I'm merging mftrace atm. [03:50] k [03:50] is there a channel for backports or should I just ask jdong_ here? :-) [03:50] kmm merged into sid sunday [03:50] we dont' have a backprots channel [03:51] only a mailing list and forum [03:51] feel free to ask if you'd like [03:51] ok, jdong_, what should I do if I want to help get SCIM stuff in backports? [03:51] Can someone take my VLC packages away from me :D [03:51] oh, best crashes [03:51] jdong_: request on forum? [03:51] minghua: request on forums and I'll take a look [03:52] jdong_: ok, will do [03:52] Kyral: aah, yes the VLC madness.... explain that via the mailing list... I'm up for a good story :) [03:53] Ask crimsun [03:53] I just backport it [03:53] uh [03:53] if anyone can't be bothered to read the changelog... [03:53] Kyral: so it builds from source? [03:54] yah [03:54] I can do a fresh build right now if you want [03:54] Kyral: so you want vlc from dapper to breezy? [03:54] jdong_, I have Dapper [03:54] I'm offering to do it :P [03:54] the build system does that quite well :) [03:55] bah ;P [03:55] lol [03:55] alright, I'll poke elmo about it [03:55] I have been replaced by a shell script! [03:55] boy elmo will have a bunch of surprises in his inbox by the end of the night [03:55] jdong_: you might want to hold off. [03:56] crimsun: oh? [03:56] depending on upstream's svn madness, I may be pushing a new snapshot in within the next week. [03:56] mmmkay [03:56] so you don't feel the current snapshot is worthy? [03:56] but if the backport guys are foaming at the mouth, sure, go ahead [03:56] not us, the community's foaming [03:56] it's certainly worthy [03:56] like Kyral :) [03:56] I'm not foaming [03:56] I have it [03:57] lol [03:57] I'm just tired of the whining ;P [03:57] well, I'll just push one out for now [03:57] that should silence the whining :) [03:57] Speakin' of wxgtk... [03:57] WHOS SPEAKING OF WXGTK??????? [03:58] no one should be, since the latest built already. http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/w/wxwidgets2.6/2.6.1.2ubuntu1/ [03:58] thats what I meant [03:58] I just got the update :P [03:58] God I <3 Beagle [03:58] if it isn't in Main for Dapper, I'm gonna smack someone :P [03:59] it wont be [03:59] and you dont want to smack me, i hit back alot harder. [03:59] yah yah [03:59] oh tseng, I think you mentioned mono backporting a while back? [03:59] i did, but it seems irrelevant now [03:59] k [03:59] what about Banshee's new version [03:59] it seems like it wants newer mono? [03:59] it does [04:00] its safer to backport mono in pieces now [04:00] Does it make any sense to bump up Breezy mono enough to get the new Banshee going? [04:00] well, i shoudlnt say that [04:00] lol, tseng, I avoid mono like the plague nowadays :) [04:00] its very complicated! [04:01] yes it is complicated [04:01] i think mono itself should backport to breezy ok [04:01] yes, just like Warty and Hoary ;) [04:01] and then banshee [04:01] hm not quite like that :) [04:02] there were major changes [04:02] nothing that serious this time [04:02] ok [04:02] mondoc is split up [04:02] one of these days when I get my vmware set up again, I'll investigate that more closely [04:02] yeah [04:02] if i had a breezy box id try it myself [04:03] but definitely mono's on my list of things to watch out for :) === crimsun totters off for dinner [04:03] bye Daniel [04:03] well, I'm gonna run off too :) [04:03] bye John [04:03] think I'll give elmo a break tonight [04:03] :) [04:03] see ya === tseng sits alone in the dark [04:11] tseng: I'm still here for you dude. [04:11] rock [04:14] http://www.piratejesus.com/nerdcore/017.html [04:20] has anybody talked to Unfrgiven lately? [04:20] no [04:20] he's not been ehre === bmonty [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:28] hi bmonty [04:28] hey LaserJock [04:28] how's it going? [04:28] not bad :) [04:28] you? [04:29] well, I'm learning how to do merges [04:30] cool, can you teach me? [04:31] crimsun actually pushed one through today for me (wxwidgets2.6) [04:31] bmonty: I don't know if I can teach you anything you don't already know === YokoZar [n=scott@c-24-10-31-137.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:31] well, what do you know, Wine 0.9.1 is out [04:31] Better package it up... [04:32] bmonty: \sh but a good guide on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge [04:32] LaserJock: maybe, I'm still trying to figure out how to read the merge reports [04:32] s/but/put [04:32] bmonty: me too [04:34] bmonty: the key is to go for the easy ones. j/k [04:34] :) === PresuntoRJ [n=Presunto@200141086252.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:03] ok, enough merging for me today === minghua [n=minghua@adsl-69-153-128-173.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:20] hi minghua [05:20] Hi LaserJock [05:20] any news from MOTU Science? :-) [05:21] not much, Kyral is working on some new stuff and I have a package in REVU [05:21] I am working on putting together some scripts that might be useful for us [05:22] sounds a good start nevertheless [05:22] sorry I don't have much time recently [05:22] if you go to wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUScience it has some stuff [05:22] I have my SCIM stuff to worry about :-) [05:23] yeah, sounds like quite a bit of work [05:25] minghua: do you visit the forums much? === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] LaserJock: actually not at all [05:26] LaserJock: today is the first time I go there in half a year [05:26] minghua: check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86329&highlight=priorities [05:26] to post something about SCIM in breezy-backports [05:27] I used to go there all the time, but since I have started working with the MOTU I find that I don't have as much time [05:27] and people sometimes complain a lot and it gets me mad, so I aviod it [05:27] LaserJock: thanks for the link, I didn't know people were talking about input methods in forums === PresuntoRJ [n=Presunto@200141086252.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:30] OO.org isn't installing [05:34] s/OO.org/OO.org2 [05:35] from OO.org or .deb ? [05:35] from the Dapper repos [05:35] Hmm, I suppose sync'ing OOo from debian would be a pain [05:36] sid is using the package name openoffice.org for OOo2 now [05:37] Kyral: unmet deps problem? [05:37] Nope [05:38] openoffice.org2 right? === minghua wonders why ubuntu list subscribe comfirmation mails are always categorized as spam by yahoo [05:39] yah [05:39] I'll show you the Apt-Get errors as soon as I finish my homework [05:39] i get unmet dep errors === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:58] minghua: Because anything other than Yahoo Groups is unwanted by Yahoo... [05:59] womble: :-) The problem is that all list mails go through fine, just the confirm subscription mails always get filtered [06:00] minghua: Yahoo probably figures that if you don't respond to the sub conf, you won't get any e-mail, and so they decided to save a few lines of code. [06:02] womble: hmm, sounds a good plan :-) [06:19] Homework done...now shower then SLEEP! === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral sighs [06:33] Hoy LaserJock [06:33] Didja see my edit on the MOTUScience? [06:34] EasyChem? [06:34] Yah [06:34] I think [06:34] its foggy [06:34] after doing 3 hours of coding homework [06:35] One of the FD devs emailed me [06:35] yeah, how did that go? [06:35] I'll get back to him Friday night. Thursday I have an exam + Calc homework [06:36] I plan on attaching the Lintain data from the Debpacks [06:36] anyone know why debian/ubuntu still has a pretty old slapd, etc.? [06:38] Kyral: what Lintian data are you getting? [06:39] nvm, I will look on REVU === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:40] hmm, it hasn't built the new version yet [06:43] LJ what say you and I go for Ubuntu Membership at the same time? [06:44] hmm, I'm not sure when we will be ready, would be nice though [06:45] I am still unsure of what they mean by "sustained" contribution [06:45] For me when FlowDesigner hits Universe, is when I'm gonna apply [06:45] I think my 1300+ posts to the UbuntuForums helps :D [06:46] well, I don't have nearly that much === zakame [n=zak@210.213.77.158] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:46] hi all [06:46] hi zakame [06:47] ei LaserJock ! [06:47] Kyral: i think when my prog (plotdrop) makes it into universe I will apply too [06:48] how's the merging? I'm looking at the list now :) [06:48] zakame: still going [06:49] about those packages with all patches applied, should I file a bug-for-merge too? [06:49] Someone has to explain how to merge to me in plain english...for some reason I cannot wrap my head around it [06:50] ok, go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge [06:50] Me? [06:50] I have to go to bed. Class in the morning ;P [06:50] Kyral: fine, be that way ;-) [06:51] Kyral: yeah, MOTUToMerge rocks [06:51] Kyral: I have class in the morning as well [06:51] Hey if I fail outta college then no more Ubuntu for me! [06:51] Kyral: buwahaha [06:52] Yah, but my problem is I don't know the difference between a sync and a merge === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:52] Kyral: sync means all of the reasons that we have a ubuntu version was fixed in the new Debian version [06:52] that means the ubuntu version goes away and we simply take the Debian version [06:55] And I need to go to bed [06:55] g'night all [06:55] cya Kyral [07:01] gn8 Kyral === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [n=chrys@dslb-084-056-086-058.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@rrba-146-120-32.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === magnon [n=co@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@alabama.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:55] wb magnon [07:56] thanks === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:11] wb slomo_ === herzi [n=herzi@d015168.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:11] hi zakame [08:12] hmm seems a lot of universe packages just need syncing [08:15] yes [08:15] but this needs to be verified for each package === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:16] yeah... there are also some _dropped patches too that aren't reported by the log === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:52] hmmm, I've finished reading http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/README, but I'm not getting how to fix the dropped patches... any hints? [08:54] zakame: look at what is dropped and decide if this is to be added again or can be left out... and verify that the ubuntu changes are still needed or if the plain debian version could be synced === StrikeForce [n=marc@203-59-15-65.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:59] slomo_: if the changes are needed, then I have to make a debdiff, right? [09:02] yes [09:03] GAAH! [09:03] Nafallo? [09:03] where did \sh see debian took our changes in apt-proxy? [09:03] Nafallo: ? === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:03] hehe [09:04] they don't use LSB for init.d and the min_refresh_delay is 1h, not 1s [09:04] this is broken [09:04] fix it ;) [09:05] on my way === viviersf [n=cain@rrba-146-120-32.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StrikeForce [n=marc@203-59-15-65.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [09:20] ehm === _rockie [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:20] why is apt-proxy installed in python2.3? === Mirno [n=mirspcm@jem75-4-82-241-240-198.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:26] morning motus [09:28]