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[12:13] (senfo/#ubuntu) k13th: I love Gentoo
[12:13] (k31th/#ubuntu) yeah
[12:13] (k31th/#ubuntu) so do i
[12:13] (k31th/#ubuntu) but for a server
[12:13] (senfo/#ubuntu) k13th: Have used it daily for years...I'm just kinda getting sick of waiting for stuff to compile
[12:13] (k31th/#ubuntu) yes
[12:13] (kbrooks/#ubuntu) #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:13] (k31th/#ubuntu) senfo: there is that to
[12:13] (kbrooks/#ubuntu) Use it.
[12:13] (k31th/#ubuntu) im there
[12:14] (k31th/#ubuntu) but no one else ever is
[12:14] (pdk/#ubuntu) i don't see what's wrong with some off-topic discussion
[12:14] (kbrooks/#ubuntu) k31th: so talk there
[12:14] (senfo/#ubuntu) this is a #ubuntu advocate discussion ;-)
[12:14] (pdk/#ubuntu) ;)
[12:14] (blackhat/#ubuntu) someones from PA using comcast ;-)
[12:14] (blackhat/#ubuntu) I'm from mA ;)
[12:14] (k31th/#ubuntu) kbrooks: Fine
[12:14] <ubuntu__> yuo :)
[12:14] (pdk/#ubuntu) GASP
[12:14] <ubuntu__> yup :0)
[12:15] <pdk> who could this mysterious comcast user in pa be? :O
[12:15] <ubuntu__> a complete ubuntu noob!
[12:15] <blackhat> lol ;)
[12:15] <nxv_> hi
[12:15] <blackhat> which is him above ^
[12:15] <mAIJK> which firewall do u recommend to ubuntu?
[12:15] <senfo> mAIJK: iptables
[12:15] <bur[n] er> mAIJK: firestarter
[12:16] <Hobbsee> mAIJK: or guarddog
[12:16] <mAIJK> hehe
[12:16] <mAIJK> :)
[12:16] <Hobbsee> :P
[12:16] <Hobbsee> just a few to choose from!
[12:16] <mAIJK> Wich is the easiest one for a newbie?
[12:16] <senfo> mAIJK: I totally recommend that you learn iptables from the command prompt
[12:16] <senfo> mAIJK: it's really not difficult
[12:16] <blackhat> Firewall pftt those things are old school
[12:16] <johnsbil> Hello! I'm just wondering if anyone knows a program for dowloading music. My doughter wants LimeWare on her kubuntu computer, but as far as I can see its not made for Debian. What do you use?
[12:16] <senfo> mAIJK: and you'll learn a lot mor
[12:16] <senfo> more*
[12:16] <blackhat> who uses a firewall now of days ;)
[12:16] <_Dez> is there any packages already on disc??
[12:17] <djm62> johnsbil: limewire is available for linux...it's a java program
[12:17] <nxv_> i want to try hibernate/sleep as i was impressed how fine it worked on a friends laptop. but when i try to enable it through the battery monitor in kde neither suspend nor hibernate restart in a useable state
[12:17] <bimberi> !limewire
[12:17] <ubotu> methinks limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[12:17] <ctcecil> johnsbil - i use limewire =] 
[12:17] <bimberi> !java
[12:17] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[12:18] <ctcecil> sudo apt-get install limewire-free (with ubuntu universe)
[12:18] <_Dez> i need some help. im running ubuntu as a server and i have a RT2500 wireless card and i need some help getting it to start
[12:19] <anto9us> nxv_, acpi is a fledgling standard at the minute which a lot of hardware/drivers don't conform to, it's a bit hit and miss unfortunately
[12:20] <Amaranth> A server with a wireless card?
[12:20] <_Dez> yeah Amaranth
[12:20] <mAIJK> I installed Firestarter but cannot find it?
[12:20] <_Dez> im trying to do a LowMEmory install
[12:20] <Hobbsee> mAIJK: sudo firestarter
[12:20] <bimberi> limewire in universe?
[12:21] <bur[n] er> mAIJK: alt+f2, firestarter
[12:21] <bur[n] er> bimberi: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:21] <foampeace> does xmms segfault
[12:21] <melodramatic> bonjours, j'ai installer gifttoxic mais le gui du programme ne veut pas soouvrir kand je lance le programme
[12:21] <bimberi> !info limewire-free
[12:22] <ctcecil> bimberi - add the ubuntu universe to the apt sources list and apt-get it
[12:22] <bimberi> "Package 'limewire-free' does not exist."
[12:22] <foampeace> does synaptic show installed packages?
[12:22] <Gokee2> Hello I am a user on ubuntu and I can`t get "su" to work as a user even though I know the root password..  Any help?
[12:22] <bimberi> bur[n] er: tried that, no good, please link me if you can find it
[12:22] <bur[n] er> foampeace: yes
[12:22] <mAIJK> I did the firestarter guide now and then clicked on Quit when I were finished. But how do I manage my firewall now?
[12:23] <bur[n] er> bimberi: did you see the ubotu message about limewire
[12:23] <bur[n] er> !limewire
[12:23] <ubotu> limewire is, like, totally, first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[12:23] <mAIJK> Nothing!
[12:23] <bimberi> bur[n] er: yes, i called it :) - however limewire is not in an ubuntu repository that i can see
[12:23] <Gokee2> so can anyone help me?
[12:24] <ctcecil> I just did a apt-cache search for limewire and it came up with limewire-free
[12:24] <ctcecil> i simply just unpacked it though, it's just that easy
[12:24] <ctcecil> http://limewire.com
[12:24] <bur[n] er> bimberi: look at the link you fool :P
[12:25] <michuk> why use limewire when there is mldonkey ? :)
[12:25] <k31th> guys i have an apt issue asks me to run apt-get update to fix it however it doesnt work
[12:25] <bur[n] er> bimberi: u don't need it from the ubuntu repositories!!!!
[12:25] <k31th> W: GPG error:
[12:25] <bimberi> bur[n] er: pm?
[12:25] <k31th> W: GPG error:
[12:25] <ctcecil> bimberi: http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther
[12:26] <ctcecil> click that link, it's that easy
[12:26] <k31th> soz got lagged
[12:26] <bimberi> bur[n] er: nvm
[12:26] <LjL> i don't need *anything* from the ubuntu reps, i can download and compile from source if i want... yet, it's still nice to have them!
[12:26] <Hobbsee> !tell k31th about gpgerr
[12:26] <k31th> Hobbsee: thanks
[12:26] <Gokee2> No one can help me?
[12:26] <Hobbsee> k31th: no problems
[12:26] <mAIJK> How should I do to start FIRESTARTER everytime I start the computer without have the terminal running?
[12:26] <bur[n] er> !tell Gokee2 about sudo
[12:26] <Hobbsee> Gokee2: try sudo, not su
[12:27] <Hobbsee> mAIJK: it will automatically
[12:27] <mAIJK> Okay!
[12:27] <Hobbsee> mAIJK: you see it start if you're watching ubuntu boot in verbose mode (ie, without the splash screen)
[12:27] <Aven> hi
[12:27] <Hobbsee> hi Aven
[12:27] <Aven> how can I use gcc version 3?
[12:28] <Aven> because 4 is giving me a hard time :(
[12:28] <LjL> about booting, is the "Enterprise Volume Manager" (whatever that is) strictly necessary?
[12:28] <LjL> avent: aptitude install gcc-3.4
[12:28] <LjL> aven: and then use "gcc-3.4" to compile
[12:28] <LjL> aven: or do "export CC=gcc-3.4" when you need to ./configure; make something that needs gcc 3
[12:29] <fyrmedic> is there a good VNC package that I can install with the package manager in Gnome?
[12:29] <foampeace> whats a blog
[12:29] <foampeace> isit the same as a forum?
[12:29] <Aven> LjL: won't work...
[12:29] <bur[n] er> fyrmedic: it comes with Vino for a server.. if you want a client, use tsclient
[12:30] <foampeace> a news group?
[12:30] <Aven> it says gcc 3 is installed
[12:30] <bimberi> fyrmedic: ubuntu comes with a vnc server by default (vino), configure it via System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[12:30] <Aven> but when I try and compile, it says gcc is not found
[12:30] <LjL> fyrmedic: apt-cache search vnc client     apt-cache search vnc gnome
[12:30] <LjL> aven: and what happens if you type "gcc-3.4"?
[12:30] <al> hi
[12:30] <Aven> gcc-3.4: no input files
[12:30] <fyrmedic> awesome thanks all I will play around with those.
[12:30] <LjL> aven: well, then it *is* installed, and all is well
[12:31] <al> how do i install java
[12:31] <bimberi> !java
[12:31] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[12:31] <al> tyvm
[12:31] <maikeru> Aven, gcc-3.4 blah.cpp
[12:31] <bimberi> yw :)
[12:31] <maikeru> it'll be called a.out
[12:31] <mAIJK> Someone knows the standard Webmin password?
[12:31] <maikeru> then chmod +x a.out
[12:31] <maikeru> and type ./a.out
[12:31] <Aven> maikeru: but what if I'm typing a 'make' command?
[12:32] <LjL> maikeru: i don't usually need to chmod
[12:32] <maikeru> (for a simple console program)
[12:32] <Aven> I can't do one by one..
[12:32] <al> how would i go about installing lime wire
[12:32] <LjL> aven: as i told you, "export CC=gcc-3.4"
[12:32] <maikeru> LjL, going from personal experience
[12:32] <maikeru> Aven, what LjL said
[12:32] <Hobbsee> !tell al about limewire
[12:32] <maikeru> !tell me about limewire
[12:32] <al> i want to no how to install lime wire
[12:33] <al> plz ppl
[12:33] <Aven> ok, but *when* do I type export CC=gcc-3.4 ?
[12:33] <LjL> al: don't you think you've been answered?
[12:33] <foampeace> whats the whereabouts of those remade sun ava deb packages?
[12:33] <Aven> before I type the 'make'?
[12:33] <nagual> I have set up an ubuntu email server with IMAP, and postfix.  I can send emails ok, but when trying to check them through IMAP, i get a wrong password error.  how can I add IMAP users and passwords?
[12:33] <foampeace> java
[12:33] <LjL> aven: yeah
[12:33] <Aven> or before I type './configure'?
[12:33] <LjL> aven: before configure, actually
[12:33] <al> how have i been answered i need to know how to install lime wire
[12:34] <bimberi> al, you should have a /msg from ubotu with information
[12:34] <Aven> ah, when I type 'make' it  still uses the command 'gcc' :\
[12:34] <LjL> al, as ubuntu just told you, "[00:34]  <ubotu> I heard limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila."
[12:34] <al> o i see im new to linux ty
[12:34] <bimberi> Aven: retry ./configure then
[12:34] <LjL> seems clear enough
[12:34] <LjL> aven: yeah, make clean; make dist-clean and then try it all again
[12:35] <darkheart> Aven You have to re-link /usr/bin/gcc to point to /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 instead of /usr/bin/gcc-4.0
[12:35] <mAIJK> Wich is the best BitTorrent client? I want it to be Graphical and good
[12:35] <LjL> Darkheart: i wouldn't do that, definitely
[12:35] <darkheart> LjL Why not?
[12:36] <al> uboto plz reply
[12:36] <oofnik> can someone answer my stupid question regarding wget?
[12:36] <maikeru> ubotu is a bot
[12:36] <ubotu> maikeru: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:36] <[dEvIL-bOY] > how can i upload files with the protocol scp?
[12:36] <maikeru> ^^
[12:36] <[dEvIL-bOY] > is there a command or gui i can use?
[12:36] <nagual> I have set up an ubuntu email server with IMAP, and postfix.  When trying to send mail I get a "Transaction failed" message, and  when trying to check them through IMAP, i get a wrong password error.  Any suggestoins?
[12:36] <LjL> darkheart: 'cause breezy is meant to be used with gcc 4, and bad things may happen if, for example, you tried to build a source .deb
[12:36] <[dEvIL-bOY] > !scp
[12:36] <ubotu> [dEvIL-bOY] : Are you smoking crack?
[12:36] <LjL> darkheart: just setting "export CC=gcc-3.4" when you REALLY need gcc 3.4 for some reasons seems a decent solution to me
[12:36] <al> ubuto plz reply to my pm
[12:36] <maikeru> al: ubotu is a bot
[12:37] <oofnik> argh how can i get all the files in one directory with wget without downloading the whole server.. anyone want to help?
[12:37] <darkheart> LjL Well, that works also. I would have just said to re-link it back when you're done.
[12:37] <al> wtf is a bot
[12:37] <Hobbsee> !tell al about yourself
[12:37] <Hobbsee> !tell al about bot
[12:37] <al> srry im new to this
[12:38] <bimberi> al: but learning fast i bet :)
[12:38] <oofnik> anyone please?
[12:38] <LjL> darkheart: oh, well yeah, that could be done... i just wouldn't leave it to gcc-3.4 stably. but anyway, setting CC also has the advantage of working in the *specific* terminal you're using; you could even be compiling something *else* in another terminal with gcc-4.0
[12:38] <LjL> darkheart: also, you don't need root access
[12:38] <al> ok so i install java and then i can run limewire
[12:38] <LjL> al: yeah
[12:39] <al> ok ty im going to stay omn incase i need more help
[12:39] <michuk> oofnik: try wget -r -l 1 http://webpage
[12:39] <darkheart> LjL LoL Yeah man. I know how it works ;) I just wasn't thinking about using env variables.
[12:39] <optii> hi all
[12:39] <optii> howzit?
[12:39] <LjL> darkheart: ok, but i was just trying to justify my opinion :)
[12:39] <al> how do i insatll java in the first place
[12:40] <LjL> !tell al about java
[12:40] <darkheart> LjL I think your solution is better. I wasn't thinking...again ;)
[12:40] <scoldingice> hello
[12:40] <nagual> I have set up an ubuntu email server with IMAP, and postfix.  When trying to send mail I get a "Transaction failed" message, and  when trying to check them through IMAP, i get a wrong password error.  Any suggestoins?
[12:40] <optii> hi guys - quick question... anyone know of a decent IRC server that runs happily under ubuntu?
[12:41] <scoldingice> i'm looking for a program like netstumbler but for ubuntu
[12:41] <michuk> oofnik: or you can use another program like httrack
[12:41] <optii> any suggestions would be cool
[12:41] <Duelus> Hey guys I have a big question, what do I need to get in synaptic to decode mp3s?
[12:41] <LjL> optii: apt cache search ircd
[12:41] <oofnik> thanks michuk that first thing you suggested helped
[12:41] <al> ! tell al about limewire
[12:41] <ubotu> al: What?
[12:41] <LjL> opti: sorry, i meant apt-cache search ircd
[12:41] <oofnik> does -l just limit the recursive option to 1 directory or something?
[12:41] <optii> sorry - what was that LjL?
[12:41] <optii> ahhh
[12:41] <LjL> al: you can just /msg ubotu <thing-you-want-told>
[12:41] <optii> ok - thanks dude
[12:42] <al> o ok lol
[12:42] <LjL> optii: i think ircd-ircu will be fine
[12:42] <Duelus> What decoder do I need to play mp3s?
[12:42] <bimberi> ubotu tell Duelus about mp3
[12:42] <Duelus> thanks
[12:42] <cyphase> I use linux and windows
[12:42] <cyphase> linux for my computer
[12:42] <cyphase> windows for ventilation
[12:42] <cyphase> and view
[12:42] <cyphase> :)
[12:42] <LjL> al: you must be registered to freenode though (something you should do anyway, by doing /msg nickserv register <password>)
[12:42] <scoldingice> lmao
[12:42] <Hobbsee> hehe, i also like that
[12:42] <scoldingice> i'm looking for a program like netstumbler but for ubuntu
[12:43] <al> what???
[12:43] <cyphase> wow, i was expecting "that's old" or "that's lame"
[12:43] <cyphase> lol
[12:43] <nagual> How can I add users and passwords to IMAP?
[12:44] <chrissturm> how do i stop epiphany from opening *.rpm files with totem? i just want it to download them :)
[12:45] <strike3> anybody help with WPA setup ?
[12:45] <al> i registered
[12:46] <LjL> al: good, now you can /msg ubotu whatever, and you can also have private queries with anyone on this IRC network
[12:46] <LjL> al: without a registration, this IRC network blocks queries
[12:46] <al> what are private queries
[12:46] <Ron_o> what about DCC?
[12:46] <Ron_o> it can't block that, can it?
[12:46] <LjL> al: simply private messages between users... like this, look
[12:47] <chrissturm> it cant block dcc because dcc means direct client to client comm
[12:47] <LjL> ron_o: no, it can't, but i don't think ubotu accepts dccs from users
[12:47] <Ron_o> ahh..
[12:47] <LjL> Ron_o: and dcc can have some drawbacks -- for example, i couldn't accepts DCCs even if i wanted to
[12:47] <LjL> ron_o: 'cause my ISP puts me on a NAT
[12:47] <Ron_o> DCC, is actually much more secure. It's quite difficult for anyone to intercept a DCC.
[12:47] <al> so how do i message ubotu
[12:48] <LjL> al: /msg ubotu thingyouwanttoknowabout
[12:48] <Ron_o> LjL, you behind a firewall or something?
[12:48] <mAIJK> How should I do to log into Webmin when I do not have any root password & account??? Please help!
[12:48] <al> nivce it worked
[12:48] <LjL> ron_o: yeah i'm basically behind a firewall, but it's a firewall only my ISP has control on
[12:48] <Ron_o> ahh...
[12:48] <Ron_o> that stinks..
[12:48] <LjL> yeah
[12:48] <al> will ubotu reply???
[12:48] <LjL> i don't have a public IP
[12:48] <LjL> that's the price for having a 10mbps connection ;)
[12:49] <Ron_o> you're behind NAT?
[12:49] <LjL> yeah
[12:49] <Ron_o> not bad.
[12:49] <Ron_o> I'd take that any day.
[12:49] <LjL> al: it should reply in a new window...
[12:49] <al> how did u get ur name to be red
[12:49] <Ron_o> May I ask what that costs you?
[12:49] <darkheart> Ron_o Even if the price of having it was you couldn't use it? =P
[12:49] <LjL> ron_o: well, it's got its problems, lately
[12:49] <LjL> al: what do you mean?
[12:49] <al> what u type is sometimes red and sometimes gray
[12:49] <Hobbsee> al: most of the IRC programs will go red when your name is spoken
[12:49] <LjL> ron_o: for example, if a site or even Freenode decides to ban a user of my ISP, hundreds of other users will be banned as well
[12:50] <al> o thats cool
[12:50] <Ron_o> that's not good... LjL..
[12:50] <al> ubotu hasent replied yet will he
[12:50] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, al
[12:50] <LjL> al: it is red when i mention your nickname. it's not something i'm doing, it's your IRC client that makes everything containing your nickname red
[12:50] <Ron_o> no way. I wouldn't take that. My speed is fast enough..
[12:50] <LjL> al: to draw your attention
[12:50] <al> nice
[12:50] <al> did ubotu die or does he not like me beacause he hasent replied
[12:51] <bimberi> al, you're not showing as an identified user, and "al" has already been registered, i think you'll need to try another nick
[12:51] <al> o ok
[12:51] <LjL> al: hmm try doing /msg nickserv identify your-password-that-you-used-when-registering
[12:51] <al> how do i do that
[12:51] <al> o ok
[12:51] <bimberi> al: /nick anothernick
[12:51] <LjL> al: you do that by doing /nick AnotherNick
[12:51] <al> om i still dont get it
[12:51] <Ron_o> ../ban LJL <and other users of her Italian kind>
[12:51] <Ron_o> hehe.
[12:52] <LjL> ron_o: i think it's more like all of Milan North-West ;)
[12:52] <LjL> chicken: now you should re-register
[12:52] <Ron_o> Like I know much of anything of Italy... :)
[12:52] <Ron_o> But I'm Italian anyway.
[12:52] <chicken> im chicken now
[12:52] <Ron_o> believe it or not.
[12:53] <LjL> ron_o: well, you see, milan is a city in italy ;)
[12:53] <Xyc0> I am getting a X server error when I install xorg-driver-fglrx for amd64
[12:53] <Ron_o> No, *really*?
[12:53] <Ron_o> lol..
[12:53] <LjL> yep!
[12:53] <Ron_o> how naive do you think I am?
[12:53] <chicken> cool
[12:53] <LjL> i dunno :P
[12:53] <Xyc0> I am getting a X server error when I install xorg-driver-fglrx for amd64, can anyone point me the right direction to fix this?
[12:54] <Ron_Duphous> But *I* am Italian..
[12:54] <Ron_Duphous> I swear to you.
[12:54] <LjL> chicken: anyway, meanwhile, let me just get ubotu to inform you about installing java
[12:54] <Ron_Duphous> Would you like to hear my last name?
[12:54] <chicken> ok
[12:54] <LjL> Ron_Duphous: and i'm from magyar :P
[12:54] <LjL> !tell chicken about java
[12:55] <gustavor> what's wrong with breazy main packages repositories... I tried us.archive.ubuntu.com and ftp.uio.no and both stop the download at 96%... it is happening for days
[12:55] <chicken> LjL: y can't i click on the link
[12:55] <LjL> Ron_Duphous: just kidding... well, if you're italian i think it'd be your moral duty to learn a thing or two 'bout italy :P
[12:55] <Ron_Duphous> I know all I need to know... hehe.
[12:55] <Hobbsee> chicken: you should have recieved a private message
[12:56] <LjL> chicken: no idea, i'm not using Gnome... but you can copy and paste, i suppose
[12:56] <Ron_Duphous> Momma Mia... Poppa Pia...
[12:56] <Xyc0> Ok guys, this is really off topic, take it outside
[12:56] <chicken> ok what are u usin then
[12:56] <Ron_Duphous> I eata Itailian food, PIZZA and Spaghetti.. :)
[12:56] <Xyc0> !offtpoic
[12:56] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Xyc0
[12:56] <LjL> chicken: KDE
[12:56] <Xyc0> !off-topic
[12:56] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Xyc0
[12:56] <Ron_o> sorry
[12:56] <Xyc0> hehehe
[12:56] <chicken> LjL: can i use KDE if so how
[12:56] <Hobbsee> !offtopic
[12:56] <ubotu> offtopic is probably Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:56] <Xyc0> thanks for backing me up ubotu
[12:57] <Infernall_> hey guys, i cant get mysql and php to talk in ubuntu server...
[12:57] <LjL> chicken: by installing the "kubuntu-desktop" package, but you should probably look around on the web a bit to decide whether you think you prefer Gnome or KDE
[12:57] <Infernall_> the mysql extension isnt loading...
[12:57] <chicken> LjL: what are the diferences between them
[12:57] <TomC> Does anybody in here know about the hal automounting external drives?
[12:57] <delltony> hi anyone happen to know if there is a program for linux like mpegable that will allow you to EASILY convert avi,mov,wmv to mp4 or 3gp for cell phones?
[12:58] <Falcon> infernall: have you installed php-mysql package?
[12:58] <Hobbsee> !tell TomC about mount
[12:58] <Hobbsee> TomC: not sure how you do it automatically though
[12:58] <LjL> chicken: well, there are a ton of differences, they're different desktop environments... but mainly, KDE has many more configuration options and is much more versatile, while Gnome tries to focus on simplicity and usability --- though YMMV
[12:58] <xbox_sky> argh wrong spelling :P
[12:58] <chicken> if i download kubuntu how do i install it
[12:59] <TomC> hobbsee Not mount. When u plug in a usb drive, the hal automatically mounts it. I need to know how to configure the hal to assign the proper mask to the mounted volume
[12:59] <Infernall_> Falcon - i tried apt-get install php-mysql...no results...
[12:59] <LjL> Ron_o: (last off topic message: poppa pia doesn't mean a thing, and it's mamma mia, not momma :P)
[12:59] <dooglus> chicken: they're both fine.  if you've got one and not the other, try that one first.
[12:59] <Infernall_> Falcon: E: Couldn't find package php-mysql
[12:59] <LjL> chicken: like you download and install anything else in ubuntu: by typing "aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" in a terminal
[12:59] <Falcon> infernall: so maybe php5-mysql
[12:59] <Ron_o> I know LjL... it was  a joke after all.
[12:59] <LjL> chicken: (or by using Synaptic, or Adept, or whatever you prefer)
[12:59] <Hobbsee> TomC: hmmm...no clue
[12:59] <LjL> Ron_o: ok ;)
[12:59] <chicken> ok
[01:00] <m_i_k_e_l> elows people
[01:00] <Infernall_> Falcon:  Thanks :)  php4-mysql :P
[01:00] <Xyc0> How many kB are in 128 MB?
[01:00] <Infernall_> duh
[01:00] <LjL> Xyc0: a lot
[01:00] <chicken> LjL: can i use synaptric to install limewire
[01:00] <m_i_k_e_l> helo guyz
[01:00] <TomC> Anybody know how to configure HAL?
[01:00] <m_i_k_e_l> wazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzu
[01:00] <m_i_k_e_l> me
[01:00] <LjL> Xyc0: 131072
[01:00] <m_i_k_e_l> wanna help w/ u
[01:00] <Ron_o> Xyc0, http://www.usbyte.com/_unit_converter/kb_to_mb.htm
[01:00] <LjL> Xyc0: if you use the binary convention
[01:00] <m_i_k_e_l> is i ok
[01:00] <m_i_k_e_l> tomCruise
[01:01] <m_i_k_e_l> ahihihihihihihi
[01:01] <Falcon> infernall: :) I had the same problem :) strange thing but for example phpmysqladmin does not have php5-mysql in dependencies
[01:01] <m_i_k_e_l> tamborong sa crusing
[01:01] <Xyc0> LjL: yea, thats what I needed thx
[01:01] <LjL> chicken: no, you can't. that's not packaged, apparently, otherwise people would have simply told you to "aptitude install limewire" ;-)
[01:01] <Xyc0> LjL: what tool did you use?
[01:01] <LjL> Xyc0: a calculator ;)
[01:01] <LjL> Xyc0: 1mb = 1024kb
[01:01] <Hobbsee> m_i_k_e_l: you might want to check out #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:01] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:01] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:01] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:01] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:01] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:02] <LjL> wth
[01:02] <bimberi> !ops
[01:02] <ubotu> well, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[01:02] <LjL> stop it
[01:02] <fanopnaic> I think he's just drunk :)
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> kick me
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:02] <IanDoh> lets spam back
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> kick me
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> :):)
[01:02] <Hobbsee> grr...why are there never ops here when you need them...
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:02] <IanDoh> or maybe he is useing ubuntu...
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> kick me
[01:02] <darkheart> Must be nice to be so easily amused.
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> moron
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> moron dude
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> heheheehe
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> mongoloid freak
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> hehehehhe
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> lolz
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> lolz
[01:02] <chicken> LjL: i just installed java will it work with mozilla now
[01:02] <m_i_k_e_l> lolz
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> lolz
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> lolz
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> lolz
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> :):):)
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:03] <LjL> go away from here you fucking idiot
[01:03] <LjL> chicken: dunno, hope so, i don't have java installed
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> kick me dude
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> kick me
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:03] <NoUse> !tops
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> :)
[01:03] <TomC> m_i_k_e_l...ignored
[01:03] <ubotu> No idea, NoUse
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> :):)
[01:03] <NoUse> !ops
[01:03] <ubotu> I guess ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> lolz
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> lolz
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> lolz
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> lolz
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> ulolz
[01:03] <chicken> LjL: o ok lol guess ill try it
[01:03] <IanDoh> !ops
[01:03] <m_i_k_e_l> ulolz
[01:03] <IanDoh> !OPS
[01:03] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[01:03] <IanDoh> DIEagd
[01:03] <IanDoh> dga
[01:03] <IanDoh> dga
[01:03] <IanDoh> agd
[01:03] <IanDoh> g
[01:03] <IanDoh> a
[01:03] <IanDoh> ga
[01:03] <IanDoh> agd
[01:03] <IanDoh> ga
[01:04] <IanDoh> gad
[01:04] <m_i_k_e_l> freaky friday!!!!
[01:04] <IanDoh> hmm
[01:04] <IanDoh> ill just ping him to death
[01:04] <Xyc0> Why has no one kicked thes guys
[01:04] <daniels> Riddell: ...
[01:04] <sazwerx> ??????
[01:04] <m_i_k_e_l> whos gonna duel w/ me with tantra
[01:04] <Riddell> daniels: IanDoh, m_i_k_e_l
[01:04] <IanDoh> 125.212.76.10
[01:04] <darkheart> Thanks daniels
[01:04] <Xyc0> thanks, sorry to sound impatient
[01:04] <chicken> LjL: i just typed aptitude install kubuntu how do i get kde to work on it now
[01:04] <TomC> Anybody know how to configure HAL?
[01:05] <Riddell> chicken: install kubuntu-desktop
[01:05] <LjL> chicken: it was "aptitude install kubuntu-desktop", not just kubuntu... anyway, after installing it, just log out and, before logging it again, click on the "Session" button and chose KDE
[01:05] <bob2_> wtf
[01:05] <daniels> Riddell: could you please /msg me logs of what was going on?
[01:05] <chicken> LjL: o so i should have typed aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:05] <Gerr> i'm thinking of switching to ubuntu. is it really better than debian? It seems to have apt-get and gnome 2.12 (which I've been waiting on debian to get for too long) and debian's evolution/exchange connector is very unstable these days
[01:05] <LjL> yeah
[01:05] <rick_> hello, is there a way to display any seg faults a system has had?
[01:06] <chicken> LjL: ok ill brb to try and get this thingy to wo rk
[01:06] <TomC> Gerr - Ubuntu is debian 7-10 years from now
[01:06] <LjL> daniels: simply this m_i_k_e_l guy starting to flood with smileys and messages saying "kick me"
[01:06] <Gerr> rick_: kernel panics? they are in /var/log/ksym_oops or something similar
[01:06] <_jacques> gerr: i used to have debian but i find ubuntu more satisying because of the newer packets and MUCH friendlier support
[01:06] <Xyc0> daniels: Just random spamming, didnt look like they said anything else
[01:06] <vini> gksudo is just a link to gksu?
[01:06] <rick_> thanks
[01:06] <Gerr> tomc: it seems that way. I'm a long time (6 years?) debian user and i'm getting very frustrated with it
[01:06] <daniels> TomC: that's kind of unconstructive; please try to focus on specific positives and negatives rather than broad sweeping generalisations like that
[01:06] <daniels> Xyc0: okay, thanks
[01:07] <daniels> bob2_: you snooze, you lose
[01:07] <Gerr> _jacques: thanks. yes, the debian package maintainers aren't very friendly
[01:07] <yi> hi, anyone aware of a ubuntu specific howto on getting a windows printer to play nice with cups?
[01:07] <daniels> Gerr: (generalisations like that aren't really helpful either; most core ubuntu developers are debian developers also.)
[01:07] <yi> i've tried the howto's found by googling but am not having any luck with those
[01:08] <TomC> daniels: Truth is constructive. Debian is several release versions behing ubuntu in every package. That is factual and not up for discussion.
[01:08] <bob2_> TomC: except it's untrue, and off-topic
[01:08] <Gerr> daniels: sorry. I have found a few debian maintainers to be unpleasant, but I'm sure they aren't all like that
[01:08] <daniels> TomC: actually it's almost entirely incorrect
[01:08] <bob2_> TomC: try #uninformed-rants-against-debian or so
[01:08] <mAIJK> Hi, Im running azureus now, but is there not any better way to start the program than with the terminal that have to run in the backround all the time?
[01:08] <Hobbsee> yi: there used to be one on ubuntuforums.org if that helps
[01:08] <yi> Hobbsee: any idea what it was called, i tried searching already
[01:09] <Hobbsee> yi: no, but i'll go look
[01:09] <bob2_> mAIJK: you can run it from the alt-f2 box, or from the menu (if you add it there with smeg)
[01:09] <ljamie82> mAIJK you can add a menu entry or a shortcut on your bar
[01:09] <_jacques> mAIJK: create a symbolic link in /usr/bin
[01:09] <TomC> bob2- It's not off-topic. Aquestion was asked and answered. There was quite a long off topic discussion about 15 minutes ago that nobody stopped.
[01:09] <Blippe> #uninformed-rants-against-debian :Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable
[01:09] <daniels> TomC: i wasn't here 15 minutes ago (and neither was bob2, by the looks), but I can assure you that it's both off-topic and utterly incorrect.
[01:10] <ljamie82> what does it matter if it is offtopic, seriously this is not a military tribunal
[01:10] <kbrooks> TomC: please do not argue with the ops
[01:10] <daniels> TomC: (for example, in X you might think Debian lags Ubuntu spectacularly, but the development branches of both have the exact same versions.)
[01:10] <vini> gksudo is just a link to gksu?
[01:10] <bob2_> ljamie82: claiming it's off-topic is a simple way for us to halt stupid discussions before they take over the channel
[01:10] <daniels> ljamie82: perpetuating the same incorrect negative stereotypes reflects badly on both debian and ubuntu.
[01:11] <bimberi> vini: aye
[01:11] <TomC> Gerr: There are several reasons I've moved my laptops and desktops from Gentoo to Ubuntu. Ease of use and simple updates/upgrades are one of the countless reasons. I like recent software, and I like simplicity in my distro. Ubuntu is a good balance of those two to me.
[01:11] <kbrooks> TomC: please.
[01:11] <daniels> ljamie82: it makes debian look worse than it actually is, which it certainly doesn't need, and it makes ubuntu look like a bunch of ungrateful whiners, given that all of ubuntu's toolchain, infrastructure, installer, etc, etc, etc come from debian.
[01:11] <Hobbsee> yi: maybe not exactly what you're looking for, but i found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32190&highlight=printer+howto
[01:11] <TomC> kbrooks: Please what?
[01:11] <LjL> daniels: well, it must be said that (afaics) many people who use Ubuntu *do* use it because it's got, on average, more recent versions of stuff than Debian. Debian has many other advantages, tho
[01:12] <Guest37448> loooooo  selamunaleykumm   looooo
[01:12] <ljamie82> daniels, you're answer makes sence but bob2 you should get off your high horse and realize you're just a person like everyone else in here, just with priveliges, stop talking down to everyone
[01:12] <Gerr> TomC: Can you run apt-get update/upgrade frequently as you could with debian? I know ubuntu has some packages that are newer than debian has (gnome 2.12 for example), but does the repository get updates frequently?
[01:12] <Guest37448> kimse  varm ordaaa  lannnnnn
[01:12] <kbrooks> ljamie82: Please.
[01:12] <Guest37448> burda trkkkkk  varm
[01:12] <bob2_> ljamie82: I'm not talking down to anyone, I'm trying to derail stupid and incorrect assertions
[01:12] <daniels> Guest37448: english only, please
[01:12] <ljamie82> stupid
[01:12] <kbrooks> ljamie82: daniels / bob2_ are ops
[01:12] <chcken> LjL: u sti;ll ther
[01:12] <LjL> gerr: that's one of the things i didn't quite like about ubuntu
[01:12] <bob2_> kbrooks: hence the "priveleges" comment
[01:13] <ljamie82> that's my point, who are you to call it stupid, say it's off topic, ok that's cool, but don't call it stupid
[01:13] <LjL> chcken: yes
[01:13] <daniels> ljamie82: i don't really think bob2's talking down to anyone; he does certainly have a point.
[01:13] <kbrooks> bob2_: yes
[01:13] <bob2_> ljamie82: it's provably false, that makes it silly in my opinion
[01:13] <Dreadnought> how do i down load java for a game
[01:13] <daniels> LjL: err, actually we're generally behind on debian
[01:13] <chcken> LjL: it said i needed a cd but i only have a cd that i installed it with
[01:13] <bob2_> Dreadnought: wiki.ubunut.com/Java
[01:13] <kbrooks> !java
[01:13] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[01:13] <Gerr> LjL: why is that? Because it's not updated frequently or updated infrequently?
[01:13] <daniels> LjL: by the time we hit upstream version freeze and the like, debian is generally ahead us, by the majority of packages
[01:13] <Dreadnought> thnx ill try it
[01:13] <yi> Hobbsee: ah thanks, i found my answer on the wiki
[01:13] <Hobbsee> yi:  :)
[01:13] <yi> Hobbsee: it was actually very easy
[01:13] <daniels> LjL: there are some special cases where we lead debian (x until recently, but not for long; gnome), but by and large we actually lag debian, contrary to popular perception
[01:14] <daniels> (honestly, I'm not making this up)
[01:14] <yi> the offending line was "Listen ip:port"
[01:14] <Dreadnought> ok that link didnt work
[01:14] <yi> i needed to change it to "Port port"
[01:14] <TomC> Gerr: I find what there's an update to packages once a week. Not all packages, obviously, but things are actively uopdated and maintained. This, too, is a good thing to me because it means someone's paying attention to software as it's released..and I don;t have to anymore
[01:14] <yi> that way it listened on all the interfaces
[01:14] <Gerr> daniels: does ubuntu have an equivilent "unstable" release?
[01:14] <Seveas> daniels, we lag debian testing but are miles ahead of stable :0
[01:14] <Seveas> :)
[01:14] <Dreadnought> some one give me another  java link
[01:14] <LjL> daniels: well, what do you think are the main advantages of ubuntu over debian? also, why do you think popular perception has you with newer packages than debian? serious questions, i'm not trolling
[01:14] <kbrooks> daniels: I don't understand. I'm sorry.
[01:14] <Gerr> TomC: ack; agreed
[01:14] <daniels> Seveas: i think ubuntu compares far better to unstable than it does to debian releases
[01:14] <daniels> kbrooks: hrm?
[01:14] <kbrooks> daniels: clarify'
[01:14] <chcken> does anyone know how to get java working in mozilla after i have instaled it
[01:15] <Dreadnought> can i have the link please
[01:15] <TomC> Ok, to put it to rest...if you run a bleeding edge debian release...then you get that...bleeding edge. If you want a bit of sanity with that, ubuntu is for you. Can we move on please?
[01:15] <daniels> LjL: more things are set up out of the box and Just Work; it has a lot more polish for little niggling things you don't want to deal with.  things like that.
[01:15] <daniels> kbrooks: clarify which?
[01:15] <bob2_> 11:13:18          bob2_ | Dreadnought: wiki.ubunut.com/Java
[01:15] <Dreadnought> yes im with chicken
[01:15] <yi> is anyone aware of firefox 1.5RC1 builds for ubuntu amd64?
[01:15] <Dreadnought> i no it doesnt work!
[01:16] <Seveas> chcken, if you installed it correctly (ie with a debfile) then you don't have to take extra steps
[01:16] <kbrooks> daniels: "LjL: there are some special cases where we lead debian (x until recently, but not for long; gnome), but by and large we actually lag debian, contrary to popular perception"< lagging part
[01:16] <_native_> greetings!
[01:16] <Dreadnought> do  have another link?
[01:16] <bob2_> yi: packages.ubuntu.com/firefox
[01:16] <Dreadnought> me?
[01:16] <bob2_> yi: if not, does mozilla have tarballs?
[01:16] <chcken> Seveas: wouldusing a erminal and typing "aptitude install java" need xtra steps
[01:16] <bob2_> Dreadnought: did you read that link or not?
[01:16] <kbrooks> daniels: "popular perception" -> what is that?
[01:16] <LjL> daniels: can we say that, in a way, ubuntu tries to be a stable debian testing/unstable?
[01:16] <Seveas> chcken, no
[01:17] <daniels> kbrooks: well, it's pretty simple; ubuntu doesn't do development on most of its major packages.  by and large we do minor tweaks if at all, and just drag in the changes from debian.  so when we're actively syncing, debian is ahead of us by a few days.  when we're frozen (which is most of the time), debian can be ahead of us by months.
[01:17] <bob2_> kbrooks: lots of new (< year) ubuntu users seem to think ubuntu is masively faster than debian to update things, which is incorrect
[01:17] <daniels> LjL: yes and no
[01:17] <chcken> Seveas: then how would i go about getting it on firefox
[01:17] <Dreadnought> both of them dont workj
[01:17] <daniels> kbrooks: what most people tend to think
[01:17] <daniels> kbrooks: (bob2's explanation was good)
[01:17] <kbrooks> daniels: ok
[01:17] <bob2_> Dreadnought: you need to elaborate on "dont work"
[01:18] <LjL> daniels: but when "we're frozen", we do have backports, don't we (at least should), even though they aren't considered part of the "official current release"... still, for the layman, they are, aren't they
[01:18] <kbrooks> bob2_: well, i'd tell them about those freezes. ;) but then again, YAGK
[01:18] <Seveas> chcken, close all firefox instances and oprn it again
[01:18] <Dreadnought> the page just says it experineed an error ond wasnt operational
[01:18] <Discipulus> I'm trying to get NX to work
[01:18] <Discipulus> I think Xorg needs to listen to a port
[01:18] <chcken> Seveas: open what again
[01:18] <Discipulus> any way to get it to do that?
[01:18] <TomC> You know, all I really wanted to know is does anybody know anything about changing the mask that HAL mounts external USB drives with?
[01:18] <kbrooks> bob2_: (you aint gonna know)
[01:18] <Seveas> chcken, ffox
[01:18] <Seveas> Discipulus, wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[01:18] <chcken> Seveas: ok then what
[01:19] <bob2_> TomC: it's gnome-volume-manager's job, afaik. perhaps a gconf key?
[01:19] <bob2_> Dreadnought: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:19] <TomC> bob2: Yeah, tried that. There;s no mask/permission key in there
[01:19] <Dreadnought> oooookkkkkkk
[01:19] <Seveas> chcken, you need the packages j2re1.4 and j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[01:19] <Seveas> my bad
[01:19] <daniels> LjL: backports are just an addon to ubuntu; just as backports.org is to debian.  so i don't think it really counts, tbh.
[01:20] <les_> anyone downloaded RubyGems and Rails
[01:20] <bob2_> Dreadnought: you're not actually making it possible to help you
[01:20] <veepster_> hi, I get this error when I use the openssl command
[01:20] <veepster_> Error opening Private Key supervillain.key
[01:20] <veepster_> is there a config page for openssl?
[01:20] <bob2_> Dreadnought: if you explain what isn't working,someone can perhaps assist you
[01:20] <Seveas> veepster_, then make the key readble...
[01:20] <vince_> hey guys is this the right place to ask a tech support question?
[01:20] <bob2_> Dreadnought: if you ignore help and make vague assertions, there's little anyone can do
[01:20] <bob2_> vince_: yes
[01:20] <chcken> Seveas: first im new so i dont know what those packages are and what they do or were to get them
[01:21] <vince_> i need to find out how to wirte to NTFA partions in Unbuntu
[01:21] <Seveas> chcken, sudo aptitude install j2re1.4 j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[01:21] <nicholaspaul> Anyone have a sample DHCP config file?
[01:21] <chcken> Seveas: and second can i use the way u first said and not have to do this
[01:21] <vince_> thats NTFS
[01:21] <trog> hello, i'm not an ubuntu/debian user. i'm on a livecd now (warty) and cant find any working repositories urls. could anyone help me ? (i'm trying to install xdialog)
[01:21] <chcken> Seveas: ok
[01:21] <Seveas> chcken, no I was wrong about that
[01:21] <kbrooks> les_: with apt?
[01:21] <chcken> Seveas: ok ill try it brb
[01:21] <nicholaspaul> I"m looking for sampledhcpd.conf
[01:21] <LjL> daniels: except that contrary to debian, backports are the *only* way we have to get newer packages without waiting for a freeze... with debian, you can just use testing to obtain that kind of effect
[01:21] <christina_> hi
[01:21] <LjL> daniels (or unstable of course)
[01:21] <NoUse> vince_ NTFS write isn't supported right now
[01:22] <Seveas> LjL, daniels left :)
[01:22] <LjL> oh did he =)
[01:22] <vince_> oh ok thaks
[01:22] <vince_> thanks
[01:22] <chcken> Seveas:did that it worked now what
[01:22] <nicholaspaul> can someone help me config dhcp3-server?
[01:22] <Ophiocus> heres a nice pickle, i have a ubuntu box that has two lan cards, eth0 gets to a switch were a win machine is plugged too, eth1 goes to the dsl modem which can dhcp (and used to take care of ips while both machines were win boxes), now i want to bridge the two lan cards and aat the same time have the modem take care of the dhcp
[01:22] <Seveas> chcken, 'did not work' is very descriptive...
[01:22] <Seveas> and it's 1:22 here so i'm going to sleep
[01:23] <les_> kbrooks, no i didn't use apt, but I tried
[01:23] <LjL> night
[01:23] <chcken> Seveas: it worked though
[01:23] <NoUse> Ophiocus thats more of a iptables question
[01:23] <LjL> Seveas: yeah, he actually said it worked :)
[01:23] <chcken> Seveas: it said done know what do i do
[01:23] <Ophiocus> i havent found a way to tell the bridge "get your ip from that dhcp"
[01:23] <kbrooks> les_:
[01:23] <kbrooks> !info rails
[01:23] <ubotu> rails: (MVC ruby based framework geared for web application development), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 0.13.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1192 kB, Installed size: 9192 kB
[01:24] <Seveas> !info train
[01:24] <dreadnought> bob i just switched users to do this could u give the link that u just gave me again?
[01:24] <chcken> Seveas: what do i do now i got those packages will it work in mozilla now
[01:24] <Seveas> !java
[01:24] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[01:24] <Seveas> chcken, yes
[01:24] <bimberi> chcken: if it worked then run firefox again and enjoy (go to bed Seveas! :) )
[01:25] <Ophiocus> iptables,.. but thats for static ip asigning right? so if i plug another machine in the switch i ll have to manualy configure its ip settings?
[01:25] <Seveas> bimberi, stfu :p
[01:25] <agro1986> test
[01:25] <nicholaspaul> anyone here know anything about DHCP3-server?
[01:25] <Seveas> agro1986, failed
[01:25] <chcken> Seveas: ok ty ill try it brb
[01:25] <Seveas> nicholaspaul, the package has an example config...
[01:25] <NoUse> Ophiocus iptables is a firewall layer, doesn't deal with assinging IPs
[01:25] <bimberi> :)
[01:25] <nicholaspaul> aaah.. hangon Seveas
[01:25] <Seveas> nicholaspaul, no, bimberi sent me to bed :)
[01:26] <kbrooks> Seveas: ping
[01:26] <nicholaspaul> lol i mean i can prob find it.
[01:26] <kbrooks> Seveas: do u have to go wherever you have to go atm
[01:26] <kbrooks> ?
[01:26] <les_> ubotu: do u know how to download RubyGems?
[01:26] <ubotu> les_: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:26] <kbrooks> Seveas: DONT PM ME
[01:26] <chcken> Seveas:mozill astill says that stuff needs to be installed to run it
[01:27] <somerville32> Does anyone need help with anything?
[01:27] <agro1986> guys, I have hoary and going to install breezy. My hard disk is divided into hda1 (/) and hda2 (/home). I plan to format hda1 and do a clean install of breezy on it. Since I'm using the home partition, I think there will be leftovers of previous setting files on the home folder. Will this mess up the new version of programs?
[01:27] <kbrooks> Seveas: ping
[01:27] <veepster_> seveas, these were my commands
[01:27] <veepster_> openssl req -new -key supervillain.key -out supervillain.csr
[01:27] <veepster_> Error opening Private Key supervillain.key
[01:27] <veepster_> 363:error:02001002:system library:fopen:No such file or directory:bss_file.c:278:fopen('supervillain.key','r')
[01:27] <somerville32> argo1986: No need to format and do a clean install
[01:27] <hseven> I've got Ubuntu running on my Mac, but trying to run it on the new Dell Dimension 3100 - it ain't happening... giving me hdci_hcd error messages when trying to install... anyone know why this is happening?
[01:27] <somerville32> argo: Just add your cd as a source and upgrade all your packages
[01:27] <les_> why do i look breezy
[01:27] <Seveas> veepster_, genereate the key first...
[01:28] <kbrooks> agro1986: remove all unimportant dot directories
[01:28] <veepster_> yeah, I have
[01:28] <Ophiocus> NoUse, i still dont see how that will do anything for me
[01:28] <veepster_> using 'keytool'
[01:28] <Seveas> no you did not
[01:28] <Ophiocus> but i ll read about it some more
[01:28] <Seveas> it can't find it
[01:28] <chcken> ok will someone help me install limewire please
[01:28] <NoUse> Ophiocus iptables is what you need to share an internet connection through a PC
[01:28] <Seveas> !limewire
[01:28] <agro1986> OK thx guys
[01:28] <ubotu> methinks limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[01:28] <veepster_> the key is called something else tho. its not called 'supervillain.key'
[01:28] <chcken> ! limewire
[01:28] <ubotu> it has been said that limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[01:28] <kbrooks> !x
[01:28] <ubotu> kbrooks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:29] <Seveas> veepster_, then why do you use supervillan.key... sigh...
[01:29] <veepster_> thats the new key I want to generate
[01:29] <chcken> seveas: java wont work but o well ill be ok can u help me install limewire
[01:29] <chris_> hi is there a way to suspend to disk?
[01:29] <LjL> chcken: how can you say that java won't work? just because it doesn't work in mozilla doesn't mean it won't run limewire
[01:30] <chcken> LjL: but i need to learn how to install limewire in the first place
[01:30] <bob2_> NewpZ: sudo /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh
[01:30] <somerville32> chicken: Have you installed the Firefox java plugin?
[01:30] <LjL> chcken: what's wrong with doing what ubotu says, i.e. downloading that link from www.limewire.com and then running runLime.sh?
[01:31] <LinuxSword> hey peeps
[01:31] <les_> ubotu: do u know about RubyGems?
[01:31] <ubotu> les_: What?
[01:31] <chcken> somerville32:when i try it says i need to do it manualy
[01:31] <LinuxSword> how can i upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[01:31] <fredforfaen> !vmware
[01:31] <ubotu> Wish i knew, fredforfaen
[01:31] <kbrooks> ubotu: ruby
[01:31] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, kbrooks
[01:31] <somerville32> chicken: Then do it manually
[01:31] <LjL> LinuxSword: look at the channel topic
[01:31] <chcken> LjL: ok ill do that so i just have to click the .sh file once i download
[01:31] <nicholaspaul> I'm looking for a DHCP3 guru.. anyone?
[01:31] <somerville32> nicholaspaul: Whats your problem
[01:31] <LinuxSword> ye ok but i get an error
[01:31] <popey> chcken: no, you need to install java *first*, then limewire
[01:32] <LjL> chcken: i don't have limewire, but if the "official" instructions say that, why not try doing that
[01:32] <chcken> popey:i think i have installed java
[01:32] <bob2_> NewpZ: or hibernate from the log off dialog
[01:32] <LjL> popey: but from what i gather he *has* java installed, just doesn't work in the browser
[01:32] <kbrooks> lol.
[01:32] <somerville32> chicken: Goto your shell and type: java
[01:32] <chcken> LjL: ok man i will
[01:32] <popey> LjL: so he hasn't setup the firefox plugin?
[01:32] <somerville32> chicken: If it returns something, java is installed
[01:32] <chcken> whats my shell
[01:32] <somerville32> chicken: Terminal?
[01:33] <LjL> popey: or something... i don't have java installed, so i don't quite know how it's supposed to work
[01:33] <popey> :)
[01:33] <chcken> o i didnt no shell meant erminal
[01:33] <somerville32> Chicken: :)
[01:33] <LjL> chcken: shell=terminal=console, basically
[01:33] <nicholaspaul> somerville32: as in, my domain names?
[01:33] <xoxo12> hello can someone please tell me what "ls -l &" do. I know "ls -l" show directory listing but what does "ls -l &" does?
[01:34] <somerville32> Nicho: Sorry, send me a pm with your issue
[01:34] <LjL> xoxo12: & runs commands in the background
[01:34] <nicholaspaul> k somerville32
[01:34] <LjL> xoxo12: tho that doesn't sound very useful with ls
[01:34] <chcken> ok i typed java and it said command not found
[01:34] <LjL> chcken: then you do not have it installed
[01:34] <melvztechie> chicken: check this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ef347c277a133b64af0600bd1bf24bc64e7038b8
[01:34] <NewpZ> /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh doesnt suspend to disk tho... just to ram.. i want it to power down the computer
[01:34] <somerville32> chicken: Then you either don't have it in your path or you don't have java installed
[01:34] <xoxo12> thanks nicholaspaul , it was a homework question
[01:34] <xoxo12> :-)
[01:34] <les_> i guess not
[01:34] <somerville32> Chicken: Do you remember installing java?
[01:34] <fanopnaic> xoxo12: well, one might say an '&' at the end of an command performs the command in the background
[01:34] <agro1986> suppose I'm in terminal (CTRL+ALT+F1). What command should I type to kill X which is on ALT+F7???
[01:35] <LjL> agro: well, "ps aux", look for the PID of X, and "kill -s 9 that-pid"
[01:35] <chcken> ya ive "installed" (suosebly) like 5 times 2day
[01:35] <rick_> what command can i use in terminal to start update manager
[01:35] <bimberi> agro1986: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[01:35] <_native_> david1980, hey that you birth year?
[01:35] <NewpZ> agro1986, or 'killall X' OR 'killall gdm'
[01:35] <bimberi> agro1986: "start" to fire it up again :)
[01:35] <somerville32> chicken: type: 'sudo java' does it return anything then?
[01:35] <melvztechie> chcken: check the guide, it help you solve your problem with java;)
[01:35] <_native_> *you
[01:35] <chcken> lemme check
[01:35] <mindphasr> Anybody having problems with network-admin opening up? takes at least 5 minutes to open for me...
[01:35] <melvztechie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ef347c277a133b64af0600bd1bf24bc64e7038b8
[01:35] <bimberi> NewpZ: you brute :)
[01:36] <NewpZ> hehe i like to be sure :)
[01:36] <chcken> no
[01:36] <grodius> What video programs do you suggest?
[01:36] <NewpZ> kino!
[01:36] <grodius> for playing dvds, avi, mpegs etc
[01:36] <rick_> what command can i use in terminal to start update manager
[01:36] <NewpZ> oh vcl player gxine
[01:36] <melvztechie> grodius: mplayer,xmms
[01:36] <melvztechie> vls
[01:36] <LjL> newpZ, agro1986: or, more tidily, "/etc/init.d/gdm stop", if it's not all fscked up
[01:36] <melvztechie> vlc
[01:37] <chcken> it said command not found summer
[01:37] <david1980> #join ubuntu-es
[01:37] <agro1986> ok, going to install breezy now... wish me luck guys....
[01:37] <somerville32> Chicken: Ok, how did you install Java?
[01:37] <david1980> #join ubuntu_es
[01:37] <bimberi> rick_: sudo update-manager
[01:37] <chcken> i tried it usin terminal and usin synaptic
[01:37] <ccc__> david1980: /join #ubuntu-es
[01:38] <LjL> Ubotu has breezy links for !javadebs, but that link (http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/) is broken, FYI
[01:38] <ubotu> LjL: I think you lost me on that one
[01:38] <LjL> ubotu: guess so
[01:38] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, LjL
[01:38] <NewpZ> chcken, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:38] <david1980> #join ubuntu-es
[01:38] <somerville32> chicken: Goto java.sun.com
[01:38] <somerville32> chicken: Then click downloads
[01:38] <chcken> ok hold
[01:38] <somerville32> Chicken: And download Java runtime environment for linux
[01:38] <chcken> ok hold on
[01:39] <jeff_> hey guys anybody use apt-file?
[01:39] <rick_> thanks bimberi
[01:39] <bimberi> rick_: yw :)
[01:40] <LjL> jeff_: no, but i guess i'll install it, sounds useful
[01:40] <jeff_> LjL: well if you do right now, let me know
[01:40] <NewpZ> why not just uncomment multiunivese in /etc/sources.list and "sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[01:40] <NewpZ> "
[01:40] <LjL> well, ubotu should be updated in any case
[01:41] <mAIJK> I need a network tool where I can scan a network and see the computers open ports and shares, know that this sounds mysterious but it is for my home network!
[01:41] <LjL> jeff_: done, what's the problem with it?
[01:41] <uman> hello there, how do I tweak ubuntu so that it boots into CLI and not X as default ?
[01:41] <fyrmedic> Anyone have ideas for how to access files that are on NTFS partitions of other drives that aren't mounted in the linux kernal
[01:41] <LjL> maijk: nmap?
[01:41] <ekimus> talking about java: i have a protocol where commands are written in lowercase in the terminal, but i have a couple of classes with a "Firstletteruppercase" naming scheme, any ideas on how to load them by name without too much string parsing?
[01:41] <LjL> fyrmedic: just mount them manually later
[01:42] <somerville32> ekimus: Are you using reflections?
[01:42] <jeff_> LjL: try searching for wx-config
[01:42] <jeff_> apt-file search wx-config
[01:42] <mindphasr> Any idea why network programs such as firestarter and network-admin take a loong time to open? at least 5 minutes..
[01:42] <LjL> nothing found, jeff_
[01:42] <jeff_> LjL: yeah... i figured out what the problem is
[01:42] <ekimus> somerville32: i'm using Class.forName("...") and Class.newInstance()
[01:42] <jeff_> i think apt-file doesn't find symlinks, but if not, then does anything?
[01:43] <LjL> jeff_: shouldn't you first issue some apt-file command to update the list of files it know about?
[01:43] <ekimus> somerville32: but if reflection seems to suit better i'd do that, just haven't worked with reflection yet
[01:43] <jeff_> because i was trying to see which package install wx-config, but it is actually a sumlink to gtk2-unicode-release-2.6
[01:43] <jeff_> well, yes apt-file update first
[01:43] <somerville32> ekimus: Reflection allows you to load a class or envoke a method without knowning the name at compile time
[01:44] <rick_> during startup in the console i get an error would anyone like to take a look and let me know what you think
[01:44] <somerville32> rick_: Sure
[01:44] <carthik> Hi, how do I force my computer to refresh the DNS cache?
[01:44] <LjL> jeff_: FYI, there is another nice program that can do a similar thing, auto-apt... you can run any other program "inside" it, and every time it will try to access a file that doesn't exist, auto-apt will prompt you to install the right package
[01:44] <jeff_> so does anybody know how to tell which package created a symlink?
[01:44] <rick_> the error is:     /etc/rc2.d/s13gdm 9145 sementation fault
[01:45] <chcken> somerville32: im downloadin java now
[01:45] <hosler> I installed ipodslave and now Amarok detects my ipod, but I can't upload anything to it? Anyone know of a solution?
[01:45] <ekimus> somerville32: that's what i'm doing now. user enters "login user pass" on the console and i create a class of type "Login" (mind the case) which would work for each string if such a class exists. i just don't know how to match the String "login" to the classname "Login"
[01:45] <jeff__> hey guys
[01:45] <jeff__> does anyone know how to get mp3s to play in ubuntu breezy?
[01:45] <EasterSunshine> !mp3
[01:45] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[01:45] <hosler> jeff__: get gstreamer mad.
[01:46] <dylan_> how does everybody feel about the new linux worm/virus that hit the wildlife?
[01:46] <jeff__> ok
[01:46] <jeff__> thanks
[01:46] <ekimus> somerville32: easy way would of course be to break conventions and lowercase all classes but that just doesn't look nice enough :) (or parse the strings to start with an uppercase letter)
[01:46] <chcken> somer im downloadin java almost finished what do i do now
[01:46] <veepster_> Im trying to run these 2 commands (one after the other) on ubuntu
[01:46] <mustard5> rick_, thats appears to be saying the gnome desktop manager is segfaulting
[01:46] <veepster_> can someone tell me what Im doing wrong
[01:46] <veepster_> keytool -genkey -alias signFiles -keypass sibboleth -keystore shibbolethsp -storepass hamasakiayumi
[01:46] <veepster_> openssl req -new -key supervillain.key -out supervillain.csr
[01:46] <hosler> dylan_: tell me about it
[01:46] <jeff_> LjL: yeah i knew about auto-apt, haven't used it yet though
[01:46] <rick_> is there anything i can do??
[01:47] <LjL> jeff_: i'm trying it right now for wx-config, anyway, and it doesn't seem to show it either
[01:47] <chcken> somerville
[01:47] <somerville32> ekimus: lol
[01:47] <somerville32> chicken: Yes?
[01:47] <jeff_> LjL: yeah, apparently because i'm guessing it doesn't find symlinks
[01:47] <dylan_> hosler, i heard there was a new one
[01:47] <chcken> ive downloaded java now how do i install it
[01:47] <jeff_> LjL: the libwxgtk2.6-dev package is what created it i _think_
[01:48] <dylan_> hosler, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/07/linux_worm/
[01:48] <mustard5> chicken are you reading the guide?
[01:48] <rick_> mustard5,is there anything i can do??
[01:48] <chcken> somerville32: i downloaded java what do i do now
[01:48] <hosler> dylan_: Im still fairly new to linux. I havnt given much thought of getting a virus. As long as I know what im executing I tend not to worry.
[01:48] <somerville32> chicken: Where did you download it to?
[01:49] <xoxo12> Hello one more question please : For posix thread, is it guranteed that cild PID would always be greater then the parent's PID?
[01:49] <chcken> somerville32: home in a file called downloads
[01:49] <dylan_> hosler, then why tend not to worry if there's a virus on the loose?
[01:49] <nuck> hi anyone know how to supress that dialog box that pops up whenever you download or save anything from the web? i find no use for it and just has to constantly tick it off to close. thanks
[01:49] <jeff_> xoxo12: i think that's accurate, but why don't you just test it?
[01:50] <somerville32> chicken: Is it an executable?
[01:50] <carthik> Hi, how do I force my computer to refresh the DNS cache? - My computer shows an old nameserver for a domain, while all the whois tools online show a newer one
[01:50] <mustard5> rick_, reboot and try again...if it repeats I think you might be in trouble  (I'm not expert mind you)
[01:50] <jeff_> nuck: firefox?
[01:50] <chcken> somerville32 what is an executable
[01:50] <xoxo12> jeff i did and its always greater ( i tested 5 times) but i dont know if its always true
[01:50] <nuck> jeff_ yes
[01:50] <somerville32> chicken: What you downloaded
[01:50] <nuck> ah you mean join that channel?
[01:50] <sobersabre> hi do you guys use kde 3.5 ?
[01:50] <sobersabre> the beta2 ?
[01:50] <chcken> somerville32: i donloaded the java files u told me to
[01:50] <rick_> it does it every boot
[01:50] <NoUse> sobersabre it's not included in kubuntu
[01:51] <sobersabre> NoUse: i know
[01:51] <rick_> can i use synaptic to reinstall gdm??
[01:51] <ctcecil> has anyone here made a career with linux? i'm looking for some good paying jobs involving linux
[01:51] <sobersabre> the q. is how useable it is
[01:51] <jeff_> nuck: just go to preferences and go to the downloads section
[01:51] <somerville32> ctcecil: Lots of people
[01:51] <jeff_> nuck: you can turn off show download manager when a ...
[01:51] <mustard5> rick_, is gdm running still?
[01:51] <nuck> ctcecil tell me when you find :-)
[01:51] <NoUse> sobersabre try asking in #kde
[01:51] <ctcecil> somerville32: yourself for example?
[01:51] <nuck> jeff_ cool thanks
[01:51] <mustard5> rick_, what are you on now?
[01:51] <rick_> yes i used startx command to  get it going
[01:52] <jeff_> xoxo12: wish i could tell you for sure
[01:52] <somerville32> ctcecil: In the future maybe :)
[01:52] <sobersabre> ctcecil: this is a very strange q.: join #C channel and tell: "has anybody here got a job?"
[01:52] <chcken> somerville32: dude i downloaded the java files u said to now how do i install them
[01:52] <mustard5> rick_, ah ok....so its not fatal
[01:52] <rick_> no
[01:52] <ctcecil> nuck: i'm guessing you're either telling me no, or you have made a career and you aren't satisfied with the pay (like most people that work)
[01:52] <somerville32> chicken: Yes, is the file compressed or is it an executable?
[01:52] <rick_> startx start gnome for me
[01:53] <chcken> somerville:how do i find out if its compressed or executable
[01:53] <LjL> dylan_: what would the "default" be?
[01:53] <mustard5> rick_, I would only be guessing if I suggested something
[01:53] <jeff_> dylan_: i'd have to say that only openbsd is secure by default
[01:53] <rick_> ok
[01:53] <nuck> ctcecil no im telling you to let me know no sarcasm :-)
[01:53] <robertj> dylan: nothing is secure by default
[01:54] <sobersabre> dylan_: this is all a propaganda...  there's nothing "secure by default".
[01:54] <Xenguy> dylan_: basically if everything is patched, and you don't run any services by default (like Ubu), then that's reasonably "secure"
[01:54] <chcken> somerville32: how do i no if its compresed or executable
[01:54] <Niomi> please help: every time i type something into the CLI i get, "timestamp too far in the future" and my clock is set wrong, but ajust the clock to the right time doesn't help and it doesn't always ajust consistantly.
[01:54] <robertj> dylan: if you assume something is secure by default you have already adopted a frame of thought that is itself vulnerable
[01:54] <sobersabre> dylan_: have you seen a country "secure by default" ?
[01:54] <DShepherd> dylan_: define security
[01:54] <mustard5> rick_, I don't know any set path to fixing it, but others might
[01:54] <dylan_> DShepherd, i dont want to get hit with a virus/spyware app EVER on Linux
[01:55] <rick_> can gnome be rinstalled with synaptic??
[01:55] <LjL> dylan_: you'll hardly even come across a Linux virus, tho it might happen
[01:55] <ctcecil> nuck: i'm just an ordinary venturing uperclass high school student trying to find a future for my life... I have many skills passed from my father which is an electrician, but i also have spent alot of time with technology, unlike many people around here (Kentucky)
[01:55] <DShepherd> dylan_: well stay away from computers :) thats your best solution
[01:55] <mustard5> rick_, your idea sounded hopeful, I have no idea what would happen if you did though
[01:56] <robertj> ctcecil: well if your looking for a good year start specializing ASAP
[01:56] <Ron_o> LjL, there was a worm for linux recently, but for servers.
[01:56] <rick_> well the worst thing i would have to to is reinstall 5.10
[01:56] <LjL> dylan_: if you don't work as root, anyway, you'll be able to save your system *even if* you came across such a virus, unless that virus can exploit some root-gaining vulnerabilioty
[01:56] <nuck> ctcecil cool you're on your way then all the best of luck! :-)
[01:56] <dylan_> DShepherd, in that respect, could i just as easily secure windows and hope for the best?
[01:56] <sobersabre> dylan_: theoretically, linux viruses exist, and spyware too... but I've been using linux for about 10 years ... haven't seen virus on my machines.
[01:56] <mustard5> rick_, true :)
[01:56] <chcken> somerville32: how do i know if its compresed or executable
[01:56] <chcken> somerville32: how do i know if its compresed or executable
[01:56] <chcken> somerville32: how do i know if its compresed or executable
[01:56] <LjL> ron_o: i'm not saying there *aren't* viruses, just there are orders of magnitude less than for windows
[01:56] <somerville32> chicken: Don't spam
[01:56] <rick_> i am going to give it a shot
[01:56] <somerville32> chicken: Just send me the filename
[01:56] <chcken> ok srry
[01:56] <LjL> chcken: don't flood
[01:56] <chcken> ok\\
[01:56] <DShepherd> dylan_:  you can secure it...by locking it away....that would work
[01:56] <mustard5> rick_, k
[01:57] <rick_> thanks for your reply
[01:57] <DShepherd> dylan_: otherwise...I think your more secure with Linux
[01:57] <Ron_o> LjL, yah...
[01:57] <wickedpuppy> chcken, file <filename>
[01:57] <dylan_> DShepherd, all seriousness with us, are there ways to secure windows?
[01:57] <nuck> what does it mean that 5.10 is prerelease?  i have hoary and want to try out 5.10 but the prerelease thing makes me think twice because it might not be stable?
[01:57] <mustard5> rick_, sorry I couldnt help more :)
[01:57] <Ron_o> but still.... :) There is a myth put out there that virii aren't out there for linux.
[01:57] <dylan_> DShepherd, other than security and being free, any other reasons why linux is better than windows
[01:57] <rick_> no prob
[01:57] <Xenguy> dylan_: find a good firewall if you want extra protection (shorewall is one), keep your apps patched when security vulnerabilities are announced, install 'chkrootkit' and 'rkhunter' for good measure (logcheck is good too), and you shouldn't have any problems with a little luck :-)
[01:57] <sobersabre> dylan_: there are ways to secure windows, but we won't discuss them here :)
[01:57] <LjL> dylan_: use an antivirus and keep it updated, and keep the system firewalled?
[01:58] <mustard5> nuck, where are you getting this pre release from?
[01:58] <wickedpuppy> nuck, where did you see the message that 5.10 is prerelease ?
[01:58] <DShepherd> dylan_: well better differs fromperson to person
[01:58] <saik0> dylan_, that also depends on your definition of secure
[01:58] <dylan_> saik0, i see
[01:58] <Niomi> please help: every time i type something into the CLI i get, "timestamp too far in the future" and my clock is set wrong, but ajust the clock to the right time doesn't help and it doesn't always ajust consistantly.
[01:58] <DShepherd> dylan_: Linux is not for every body....neither is windows
[01:58] <chcken> somerville32:heres the filename  jre_1_5_05-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[01:58] <sobersabre> I've heard if you glue celluloid tape in a criss cross fashion, that makes window secure...
[01:58] <mustard5> nuck, I would mention that I use breezy pre release myself, as I haven't downloaded the final breezy ISO yet
[01:58] <LjL> AmigaOS is for everybody
[01:58] <sobersabre> in case of bombing...
[01:58] <wickedpuppy> chcken, thats a bin file ....
[01:59] <chcken> wickedpupy: i dont no wat that is
[01:59] <DShepherd> LjL: :)...ok if you say so
[01:59] <sobersabre> dylan_: computers is not for everybody ;-)
[01:59] <saik0> is there any special options a /home filesystem should have?
[01:59] <wickedpuppy> chcken, file jre_1_5_05-linux-i586-rpm.bin ... btw its rpm ... there is jre in repo ..
[01:59] <somerville32> chicken: chmod +x jre_1_5_05-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[01:59] <LjL> 'course i do :P
[01:59] <somerville32> chicken: ./jre_1_5_05-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[01:59] <saik0> er, are there any*
[01:59] <Xenguy> Niomi: this could help -> /usr/sbin/rdate -s time.nrc.ca && /sbin/hwclock --systohc
[01:59] <dylan_> sobersabre, whats the probability of a linux virus getting root privelages without asking?
[01:59] <nuck> mustard5 i can't remember the exact term but it's something to that effect. so you mean 5.10 is a stable ready for consumption version? thanks
[01:59] <Xenguy> Niomi: probably need sudo
[01:59] <wickedpuppy> somerville32, pls tell him it will uncompress to rpm and get java from the repos
[01:59] <chcken> somerville32: so how do i install it
[02:00] <Xyc0> Anyone figure out a way to install ATI drivers on a 64 bit system?
[02:00] <wickedpuppy> !javadeb
[02:00] <ubotu> I don't know, wickedpuppy
[02:00] <DShepherd> anyways...guys....we should continue the secure discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic. The ops would prefer that
[02:00] <wickedpuppy> !javadebs
[02:00] <somerville32> chicken: chmod +x jre_1_5_05-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[02:00] <ubotu> Sun Java debs packaged for Ubuntu. Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy))
[02:00] <somerville32> chicken: ./jre_1_5_05-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[02:00] <robertj> speaking of windows for everyone I heard of a new library that is being built in Zambia, is there someone at the foundation worth emailing with a heads up?
[02:00] <weob> anyone install wine 0.9 beta onto breezy?
[02:00] <mustard5> nuck, their is a final release yes
[02:00] <robertj> err linux for everyone ;)
[02:00] <somerville32> weob: ME
[02:00] <wickedpuppy> chcken, go to the link ubotu showed ya for java ... don't use that rpm
[02:00] <chcken> somerville32: so how do i install it
[02:00] <weob> do u have a link or any info on how to
[02:00] <sobersabre> dylan_: if you use your computer as root user (like most windows XP users do ) - the chances are very high :)
[02:00] <somerville32> chicken: Follow the link
[02:00] <somerville32> weob: Actually, I might not have the beta
[02:00] <chcken> wickedpuppy: i dont have that link
[02:00] <weob> ok
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> !javadebs
[02:01] <chcken> ! java
[02:01] <ubotu> Sun Java debs packaged for Ubuntu. Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy))
[02:01] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[02:01] <weob> i have had the prebuilt installed
[02:01] <chcken> ! javadebs
[02:01] <ubotu> Sun Java debs packaged for Ubuntu. Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy))
[02:01] <saik0> one at a time fellas
[02:01] <weob> curious to see if its any better than cedega - which it may be
[02:01] <sobersabre> dylan_: otoh if you use a regular user, then, it will be very difficult for virus to spread or live.
[02:01] <chcken> i have nothing from ubotu
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> chcken, stop using the bot more than once ....
[02:01] <dylan_> sobersabre, somebody in here told me that a linux virus might very well gain root privelages when logged on as somebody else, like <myname>
[02:01] <chcken> i have nothing from ubotu
[02:01] <bob2_> saik0: being a smartarse is a great way to solicit help
[02:01] <bob2_> saik0: nosuid might be useful, but the defaults are fine
[02:01] <somerville32> !tell chicken about javadebs
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> somerville32, if he is unreg .. forget it
[02:02] <Xyc0> dylan_: only if you execute it using sudo
[02:02] <chcken> its spelled chcken somerville
[02:02] <nuck> mustard5 isee how different is it from hoary? do i have to uninstall hoary and then install 5.10 or does ubuntu allow to just install over the previous OS version?
[02:02] <VisionOfTruth> Hello im a first time ubuntu user
[02:02] <saik0> bob2_, thanks
[02:02] <weob> welcome
[02:02] <VisionOfTruth> any one think they can help with a problem?
[02:02] <Xyc0> nuck: you can just update the packages, no need to reformat
[02:02] <weob> state it
[02:02] <Xenguy> VisionOfTruth: just ask
[02:02] <VisionOfTruth> allright...
[02:02] <dylan_> Xyc0, so no need to worry at all?
[02:02] <mustard5> nuck, you can upgrade rather than clean install...instructions are at a link that is shown in /topic or type !breezy in channel
[02:02] <nuck> Xyc0 you mean just through synaptic?
[02:02] <sobersabre> dylan_: this is not very likely, because:1. you need to run old software (like vulnerable network service), which isn't so by default. 2. you need to download infected file and execute it manually.
[02:03] <VisionOfTruth> Ive used Vector Linux for some time
[02:03] <VisionOfTruth> and love it
[02:03] <VisionOfTruth> but was always interested in ubuntu
[02:03] <VisionOfTruth> now i had a reason to try it out
[02:03] <chcken> can some one tell ubotu to tell chcken about java install
[02:03] <dylan_> sobersabre, so no worries, right?
[02:03] <wickedpuppy> VisionOfTruth, great .. but pls get to the ubuntu problem pls ... and all in one line pls
[02:03] <Xyc0> nuck: no, just mount the downloaded ISO of breezy and it will update your packages
[02:03] <VisionOfTruth> becaused its based on debian
[02:03] <VisionOfTruth> not slackware
[02:03] <VisionOfTruth> so basically
[02:03] <wickedpuppy> VisionOfTruth, all in one line pls
[02:03] <VisionOfTruth> k
[02:03] <sobersabre> dylan_:  besides there are many protection means against that.
[02:03] <Xyc0> dylan_: No worries :D
[02:03] <wickedpuppy> chcken, you got to register your nick
[02:04] <weob> anyone happen to play wOw on linux?
[02:04] <chcken> wickedpuppy:how do i do that
[02:04] <nuck> breezy is the 5.10 right?
[02:04] <Xyc0> weob:  I Do!
[02:04] <dylan_> Xyc0, thanks so much....i was gettin scared here.
[02:04] <wickedpuppy> but surely you can read the message ubotu posts on the main...
[02:04] <Xyc0> nuck: rgr
[02:04] <weob> what's ur method
[02:04] <dylan_> Xyc0, you MADE MY DAY
[02:04] <wickedpuppy> chcken, /msg nickserv help register
[02:04] <mustard5> nuck, yep
[02:04] <Xyc0> dylan_: just watch what you install manualy, IE not through Synaptic
[02:04] <weob> cedega sucks
[02:04] <lassesandberg> hello
[02:04] <dylan_> Xyc0, k cool
[02:04] <lassesandberg> im having a small problem with my newly installed ubuntu
[02:04] <dylan_> Xyc0, bye
[02:05] <chcken> register <hi>
[02:05] <Xyc0> weob: Cedega 5 now
[02:05] <weob> does not have pixel shaders 1.4 support which wow
[02:05] <lassesandberg> it doewsent allow me to read from ntfs drives
[02:05] <lassesandberg> not even read
[02:05] <weob> i did not check... but
[02:05] <lassesandberg> weob, cedega 5 has
[02:05] <Xyc0> weob: Did you buy cedega or pirate it?
[02:05] <somerville32> lassesandberg: That isn't a problem
[02:05] <VisionOfTruth> I installed Vector Linux on my new laptop and had alot of problems, could not get it to work. IRQ conflicts with PCMCIA and all kinds of junk... So I tried to install Ubuntu and I am getting the same problem. The laptop is a custom built laptop from Sager it is a real nice machine but just blows so far for linux... I thought if any distro could run it, it would be ubuntu... well... It cant.. I installed and it sees my hardware much
[02:05] <lassesandberg> weob, and wow can use opengl rendering too
[02:05] <weob> i bought it a while ago
[02:05] <lassesandberg> somerville32, how come not?
[02:05] <Xyc0> weob: update to cedega 5
[02:05] <LjL> can someone please run "aptitude install boson" and confirm that package's broekn?
[02:05] <VisionOfTruth> install but when I boot it up for the first time, I get stuck at Starting hotplug subsystem......
[02:05] <VisionOfTruth> so thats my dilema...
[02:06] <lassesandberg> somerville32, it mounts readonly, which should make me able to read it
[02:06] <somerville32> lassesandberg: Become it isn't suppose to be able to read or write to NTFS. You need a special tool for it
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> VisionOfTruth, did you try the live cd first ?
[02:06] <somerville32> *Becuase
[02:06] <nagual> How can I add courier-IMAP users and passwords?
[02:06] <lassesandberg> somerville32, ofcourse you dont need a special tool
[02:06] <saik0> weob, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=2581
[02:06] <lassesandberg> somerville32, it already mounts it, but it changes permissions of the mount point so that only root can read
[02:06] <VisionOfTruth> no I did not try the live CD first
[02:06] <_Dez> !ra2500
[02:06] <ubotu> _Dez: I give up, what is it?
[02:06] <VisionOfTruth> however let me say I did try knoppix
[02:07] <somerville32> lassesandberg: You can't write to NTFS without a tool
[02:07] <sobersabre> lassesandberg: edit /etc/fstab properly to set permissions.
[02:07] <Xenguy> VisionOfTruth: I had a machine that would run Knoppix live CD, but not the Ubuntu live CD, so maybe try Knoppix to see if Linux will actually run on your hardware ?
[02:07] <lassesandberg> somerville32, i only said read
[02:07] <bolrod> somerville32: you can actually..... its not safe though
[02:07] <weob> im sick of windoze updates having to reboot - i want to play it on linux and do it the way i want it
[02:07] <somerville32> bolrod: I know
[02:07] <chcken> CAN SUM1 SEND ME THE UBOTU LINK FOR JAVA INSTALL
[02:07] <somerville32> Chicken: Cool it
[02:07] <somerville32> !javadebs
[02:07] <ubotu> Sun Java debs packaged for Ubuntu. Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy))
[02:07] <_Dez> !java
[02:07] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[02:07] <_Dez> ^
[02:07] <VisionOfTruth> and auditor, and they have dont work either.. Everytime they get to the pcmcia it locks hard, however if I start knoppix with codes ex: knoppix acpi=off noapic pci=bios then it works.
[02:07] <NoUse> chcken calm down
[02:07] <bolrod> chcken: just download it from sun
[02:08] <chcken> OMG
[02:08] <DShepherd> chcken: are you on ubuntu breezy?
[02:08] <Xyc0> VisionOfTruth: Remember, a live cd has a lot of data it needs to execute.  The install of a distrobution is always more stable.
[02:08] <z3r0x> hi guys
[02:08] <chcken> DSsheperd:WHAT IS UBUNTU BREEZY
[02:09] <wickedpuppy> chcken, lose ya caps dude ....
[02:09] <DShepherd> chcken: huh?
[02:09] <Xyc0> chcken: the newest version of Ubuntu
[02:09] <VisionOfTruth> Xyc0 live cd's are the only thing i can get to work because of the options i mentioned above.. I cannot get any version of linux to install... Basically ACPI/PCI PNP and things like this just arent working with todays linux kernels...
[02:09] <wickedpuppy> its rude... unless you wanna shout
[02:09] <z3r0x> I have a problem installing the module Net::SSH::Perl...I installed the package libnet-ssh-perl in ubuntu and also installed net::ssh::perl over the mcpan perl console but I still have an error... what do I wrong ?
[02:09] <chcken> wickedpuppy:NO1 WQILL HELP ME SO I WILL USE THEM TILL SUM1 DOES
[02:09] <VisionOfTruth> I swear its like some conspiracy from M$ and hardware developers to mess up linux...
[02:10] <Xyc0> VisionOfTruth: sorry i missed out on the morsel of info, and yea M$ likes to think it is the only OS on a computer
[02:10] <somerville32> Chicken: No one will help you with caps
[02:10] <NoUse> chcken a bad attitude isn't the key to getting help
[02:10] <weob> that's funny cuz i have a somewhat older pc it refuses to install windows - but linux installs fine
[02:10] <chcken> DSsheperd:HOW CAN I INSTALL BREEZY
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> !ops
[02:10] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and nalioth
[02:10] <VisionOfTruth> Webob: exactly
[02:10] <Xyc0> chcken: !breezy
[02:10] <Xyc0> !breezy
[02:10] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:10] <chcken> NoUse: DUDE NO1 WILL HELP ME THEY ALL GET ME LIKE HALFWAY THROUGH AND THEN IGNORE ME
[02:10] <mustard5> chcken, you are shooting yourself in the foot here
[02:10] <somerville32> Chicken: Send me a PM!
[02:10] <NoUse> chcken well you'll be kicked out soon if you don't stop
[02:10] <mustard5> chcken, plz stop
[02:10] <VisionOfTruth> What I mean is M$ might be paying these hardware companies to screw with things a bit on the APIC PNP stuff
[02:11] <Xyc0> chcken: everyone sees you, dont freak out
[02:11] <DShepherd> chcken: calm down
[02:11] <VisionOfTruth> That is where this laptop is coming into problems im sure of it..
[02:11] <VisionOfTruth> M$ runs great on this machine
[02:11] <DShepherd> have you checked the ubuntu website?
[02:11] <chcken> WILL SUM1 HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:11] <bob2_> wickedpuppy: ?
[02:11] <steve_> lo folks, anyone use a microsoft standard wireless optical mouse in ubuntu?
[02:11] <bob2_> chcken: stop it
[02:11] <_Dez> i need some help. im running ubuntu as a server and i have a RT2500 wireless card and i need some help getting it to start
[02:11] <VisionOfTruth> but no distro/linux works with this thing unless ACPI/APIC is manually turned off...
[02:11] <DShepherd> chcken: quit
[02:11] <bob2_> chcken: you will not be warned again
[02:11] <somerville32> Chicken: We'll all help you. Calm down
[02:11] <somerville32> !ops
[02:11] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and nalioth
[02:11] <NoUse> chcken you havne't asked a question in 20 minutes
[02:11] <Xyc0> VisionOfTruth: I doubt it, there is always a way with Ubuntu
[02:11] <bob2_> somerville32: ...
[02:11] <chcken> ya i hav and then everyone ignores me
[02:11] <fyrmedic> steve_: Yes and I haven't had any problems with it
[02:11] <bob2_> chcken: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[02:12] <dmgunn> Hi everyone!
[02:12] <bob2_> chcken: now be quiet and read it
[02:12] <chcken> ok
[02:12] <Blippe> hi dmgunn
[02:12] <NoUse> chcken ubotu has sent you links with answers to all your questions
[02:12] <bob2_> chcken: if some part is confusing, tell us which part
[02:12] <VisionOfTruth> ok ok...
[02:12] <VisionOfTruth> im all ears...
[02:12] <chcken> ok
[02:12] <LjL> chcken: stop shouting. just tell me, why didn't you even TRY doing what ubotu said about installing limewire, and instead kept whining "help me install limewire help me"?! tell me, please?! now *who* is ignoring who? you might have said "well, i've tried doing that, but i got an error here and here". no, you just kept ignoring the information. one gets tired after a while
[02:12] <Broam> Evening all
[02:12] <steve_> fyrmedic: what sort of xorg.conf do you use, my version seems to think the scroll wheel is being clicked all the time and pastes stuff randomly and moves icons around and all when you hover over it
[02:12] <Broam> Anyone taken the plunge to Dapper yet?upgraded
[02:12] <dmgunn> I have a problem,  my fonts are all very small.  Does anyone know why? e.g the fonts on buttons to mozilla, the fonts of this (X-Chat), everything
[02:12] <bob2_> if you have to ask, don't use dapper
[02:13] <Broam> Gotcha
[02:13] <DShepherd> chcken: you can google.....google is your friend
[02:13] <Xyc0> How can I install X86_64 drivers for ATI?
[02:13] <VisionOfTruth> grrr....
[02:13] <bob2_> Xyc0: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:13] <jeppe> enyone knows what happend...i just download enemy territory..binar...i did it like (download target disk) and enemy territory name was modules.php ...ok then i just change name et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run  ..and then the hole fucking file dissapeard.???   Sorry My Bad English...??
[02:13] <Broam> Too late, anyway.  I've already gone ahead and done it.  Suppose I'll be submitting bug reports for a while now. :)
[02:13] <VisionOfTruth> I think ill send this laptop back
[02:13] <LjL> guys, i've filed a bug against the boson-base package. it has broken dependencies
[02:13] <VisionOfTruth> I shopped for so long
[02:13] <VisionOfTruth> and its so sexy
[02:13] <Toma-> is there anyway to get nautilus to use just icons rather than icons and name in the navigation bar?
[02:13] <Xyc0> bob2_: Its telling me there are none for 64 bit, but ATI has one out on their site
[02:13] <VisionOfTruth> :(
[02:13] <mustard5> Broam, I'm in the middle of doing it ;)
[02:13] <JoCe> hi, i how can i choose olive colors in clearlooks?
[02:13] <somerville32> Toma: Yes
[02:13] <chcken> when i do wiki.ubuntu.com/java it says it dosent exist
[02:14] <weob> another funny thing that happened to me - is i could not get alienarena to install on linux - well run - it installed - i got it to run and install fine on windoze
[02:14] <Toma-> ok...
[02:14] <fyrmedic> steve_: You know, I am sorry but I don't know that answer. I am using whatever the default installation is when you install ubuntu. I am not so savvy with Linux yet.
[02:14] <chris_> whats a good laptop that is 100% compatible with ubuntu
[02:14] <bob2_> chcken: so, it'd be awesome if yo uactually used the URL I gave you
[02:14] <PMantis> !seen lifeless
[02:14] <ubotu> PMantis: i haven't seen 'lifeless'
[02:14] <bob2_> chcken: java != Java
[02:14] <Broam> I just finished.  Have to figure out some conflicts with glade, but that's about it
[02:14] <steve_> ah right, you don't have the same problem no fyrmedic?
[02:14] <bob2_> chcken: IBM x40
[02:14] <dmgunn> I think the problem started when I installed GDM,  but all my fonts are really small.  Anyone know how to fix this???
[02:14] <chris_> hehe
[02:14] <LjL> chcken: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java is the correct link
[02:14] <somerville32> chris: Just buy a laptop with linux preinstalled
[02:14] <bob2_> chris_: IBM x40, wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[02:14] <mustard5> Broam, I try not to mention it in here or people might end up doing it who don't know what they are doing :)
[02:14] <LjL> chcken: uppercase J
[02:14] <jeppe> ??
[02:14] <jeppe> enyone knows what happend...i just download enemy territory..binar...i did it like (download target disk) and enemy territory name was modules.php ...ok then i just change name et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run  ..and then the hole fucking file dissapeard.???   Sorry My Bad English...??
[02:14] <Toma-> somerville32: how might this be achieveable?
[02:15] <Nitewalker> hi there yesterday when i used my linux box the icons and everything was smaller and now its stuck on 640x480 and it wont change is there anything i can do to get this smaller again
[02:15] <somerville32> Toma: Lots of companies do it
[02:15] <somerville32> Toma: Just ask
[02:15] <chris_> bob2_, thanks!
[02:15] <Toma-> ..?
[02:15] <chcken> i did the right url and it says this page does not exist
[02:15] <LjL> chcken: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java <-- well, it does
[02:15] <jeppe> im newbie...
[02:15] <ctcecil> i hate the female race, i wish i was right as much as a female.
[02:15] <bob2_> Nitewalker: /sg ubotu fixres
[02:15] <Xyc0> JoCe: google-look.org
[02:15] <weob> female is a race?
[02:16] <bob2_> chcken: I'm sorry, but you're doing it wrong
[02:16] <LjL> chcken: so, either your ISP is conspiring against you, or you used the wrong link
[02:16] <Toma-> somerville32: lots of companies change the way nautilus nav bar loioks?
[02:16] <ctcecil> gender
[02:16] <bob2_> chcken: the URL we have given you is fine
[02:16] <rain`> Ok, I am trying to view a video on msnbc.com (yes, I know, microsoft...but still) and of course it complains about not having Windows media player 10 and flash player 7, is there anyway I can fool it to think i have those installed?
[02:16] <steve_> can anyone help me with my wireless mouse problem?
[02:16] <chcken> ok now it works lemme read it
[02:16] <somerville32> Toma: Sorry, :P
[02:16] <fyrmedic> Anyone know how to mount and at least read an NTFS in Gnome?
[02:16] <Toma-> ;)
[02:16] <bob2_> rain`: if you're on i386, installing both should be as easy as wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:16] <bob2_> fyrmedic: /msg ubotu ntfs
[02:16] <hosler> Im having trouble getting amarok to sync songs to my ipod.
[02:17] <LjL> chcken: oh, so it did work after all?
[02:17] <Xyc0> rain`: if your on x86_64 sent me a tell i know how
[02:17] <jeppe> can somebody help mee??
[02:17] <jeppe> please..
[02:17] <dmgunn> x this?
[02:17] <Red-Sox> hey
[02:17] <dmgunn> Hi, ever since I upgradded to breezy, my fonts are really small. .  How do I fix this??
[02:17] <Nitewalker> bob2_,  where do i type that command?
[02:17] <Toma-> is there anyway to get nautilus to use just icons rather than icons and name in the navigation bar?
[02:17] <Xyc0> dmgunn: change the resolution
[02:18] <hosler> jeppe, enemy-territory.com. get it there.
[02:18] <Red-Sox> dmgunn: resolution
[02:18] <Red-Sox> where is gedit?
[02:18] <dmgunn> Red-Sox, Thanks! how do I change it?
[02:18] <somerville32> dmgunn: Try install font packages
[02:18] <hosler> jeppe, you may have to use the command wget to retreive the file. Its a pain in the butt because its a .run find and firefox tries to open it.
[02:18] <Lathiat> dmgunn: It may be resolution, but it may also be the font DPI, you can change that in the system->preferences->[font | resolution]  screens
[02:18] <Lathiat> Red-Sox: appications->accessorties->text editor
[02:18] <chcken> every1 im 11 im gettin lost in this whole java thing
[02:18] <bob2_> Nitewalker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:18] <dmgunn> oh I dont have gnome
[02:19] <bob2_> Xyc0: it appears very strongly to exist on amd64
[02:19] <bob2_> Xyc0: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?exact=0&searchon=names&version=all&case=insensitive&release=all&keywords=linux-restricted-modules&arch=any
[02:19] <dmgunn> Lathiat: I don't have gnome, so no system-preferences->etc...
[02:19] <Lathiat> dmgunn: err, no idea sorry
[02:19] <Lathiat> dmgunn: kubuntu? xubuntu?
[02:19] <hosler> jeppe, you may have to use the command wget to retreive the file. Its a pain in the butt because its a .run find and firefox tries to open it.
[02:19] <Red-Sox> dmgunn: system-------->prefs----------------->screen resolution
[02:19] <LathropWells> dmgun - the configuration editor has hundreds of settings - do you think it might be in there?
[02:19] <dmgunn> Lathiat: I had normal ubuntu, but removed all gnome stuff and use fvwm
[02:19] <jeppe> hosler...im newbie firstday user on linux...;D
[02:19] <Lathiat> Red-Sox: He doens't use GNOME, (i.e. the standard ubuntu desktop) so that wont work for him
[02:20] <Lathiat> dmgunn: don't know what the executable name is off the top of my head sorry
[02:20] <dmgunn> Red-Sox: I use fvwm, not gnome
[02:20] <chcken> can sum1 explain what this thing ubotu gave me means
[02:20] <Toma-> ctl-alt-+ or - is so much quicker tho...
[02:20] <Red-Sox> dmgunn: what window manager do you use?
[02:20] <Red-Sox> ah
[02:20] <Red-Sox> okay, i sec
[02:20] <chcken> because im readin it and it makes no cense to me
[02:20] <LjL> chcken: what thing is that
[02:20] <weob> is it necessary to have gdm and kdm if you use some gnome apps?
[02:20] <weob> for services that is
[02:21] <LjL> Weob: no
[02:21] <weob> ok thanks
[02:21] <LjL> weob: kdm has nothing to do with gnome, by the way
[02:21] <Xyc0> bob2_ari: this is a list of the generic modules, these do not support direct rendering unfortunately
[02:21] <weob> i know
[02:21] <dmgunn> The weird thing is that the buttons and scroll bars are all the right size, just the fonts are small... so can it still be resolution??
[02:21] <chcken> LjL: the link ubotu gave me is cunfusing me im new to linux and im way lost on how to just install java
[02:21] <LjL> chcken: yeah, but *which* link are you referring to
[02:22] <chcken> LjL: this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[02:22] <rain`> bob2_: I already had w32codecs and I just installed flashplayer-nonfree, but It still says it cannot find wmp10/flashplayer7...maybe it is checking for the windows version? anyway to fool it?
[02:22] <LjL> chcken: uh that's an index page... what are you trying to do? installing java, or something else?
[02:23] <Red-Sox> uhoh
[02:23] <chcken> LjL: im trying to install java so i can run limewire
[02:23] <Red-Sox> ctrl-alt-+or- got my screen way out of wack, how do I change it back?
[02:23] <LjL> chcken: sorry, but i'm not sure what that page has to do with installing java... i suppose i've lost some passages
[02:23] <illicit> chcken: http://www.ubuntuguide.org    there is a link there to show u how to install it.
[02:24] <DShepherd> chcken: what distro are you on?
[02:24] <z3r0x> !file pali
[02:24] <Red-Sox> got it
[02:24] <Red-Sox> phew
[02:24] <illicit> chcken: it doesn't install just java for u, it shows u how to install limewire...step-by-step
[02:24] <chcken> DSheperd idk i got it as a freebie from my dads work
[02:24] <yahya> Is there a way to do the equivalent of Synaptic's package search from the command line?
[02:25] <DShepherd> chcken: what's idk?
[02:25] <chcken> DSheperd: i dont know
[02:25] <EdLin> yahya, apt-cache search
[02:25] <LjL> illicit: but the instructions there to install java don't quite work
[02:25] <z3r0x> !file pari
[02:25] <rain`> ok nevermind, i just chose the mac version and it plays fine
[02:25] <bob2_ari> Xyc0: it certainly appears to contain nvidia and ati binary-only drivers: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic&version=breezy&arch=amd64&page=2&number=50
[02:25] <illicit> LjL: then you go to the site, and it shows you there :) i have limewire installed...its just too simple to mess up
[02:25] <bob2_ari> Xyc0: (I forgot what your original questio nwas)
[02:26] <PMantis> Anyone here use NetworkManager on Ubuntu?  How can I restart the "NetworkManager" and "NetworkManagerDispatcher" processes?
[02:26] <Xyc0> bob2_ari: when i install xorg-driver-fglrx for X86_64, i get an X server error and cannot load gdm
[02:26] <PMantis> nm-applet sees no interfaces, yet I'm on IRC! :)
[02:26] <Red-Sox> does ppc not work in gnome?
[02:26] <Red-Sox> i mean fluxbox
[02:26] <biro> how can I install xmms in ubuntu? "add aplications" don't get the password
[02:26] <chcken> illicit:where in that huge thingy does it show how to install limewire
[02:26] <bob2_ari> PMantis: restart debus
[02:26] <Red-Sox> biro
[02:26] <bob2_ari> PMantis: which may or may not make things explode
[02:26] <bob2_ari> Red-Sox: sure it does
[02:26] <LjL> illicit: i'm not interested in installing java, but clearly chcken is quite new to linux... and that guide says to do "sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5" to install java, but that jsut doesn't work, there is no such package in the reps
[02:26] <Red-Sox> biro: sudo apt-get install xmms
[02:27] <akonkwa> Hi everyone
[02:27] <bob2_ari> biro: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[02:27] <bob2_ari> Xyc0: log file?
[02:27] <DShepherd> chcken: why are you here? you are in the #ubuntu asking about ldk which you dont have a clue about,,,
[02:27] <Red-Sox> bob2_ari: is this bob2?
[02:27] <PMantis> bob2_ari, Heh, ok.. but it that breaks things, I'm driving back to Montreal! :)
[02:27] <illicit> LjL: he has to install java directly from the site...
[02:27] <chcken> LjL: huh so any clue on how i can install java
[02:27] <biro> thanks Red-Sox & bob2_ari
[02:27] <Red-Sox> biro: np
[02:27] <Xyc0> bob2_ari: um... I couldnt load GDM so I had to reinstall Breezy.
[02:27] <bob2_ari> PMantis: hah
[02:27] <bob2_ari> Red-Sox: yes.
[02:27] <Red-Sox> Xyc0: thats not good
[02:28] <Xyc0> bob2_ari: I have no other way of finding out how to fix it
[02:28] <illicit> chcken: Go to to the java website and download the linux version of it, and then proceed from there..
[02:28] <carthik> !ubotu java
[02:28] <bob2_ari> Xyc0: that's a bit sub-optimal
[02:28] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[02:28] <Red-Sox> bob2_ari: widja change it?
[02:28] <biro> I'm new in Ubuntu
[02:28] <LjL> illicit: i.e. download an RPM from the Sun site and stuff? doesn't sound very newbie-friendly, if i must say my opinion
[02:28] <akonkwa> I am having trouble switching to root user, I've tried everything in the faq, but it doesn't work... can anyone help?
[02:28] <bob2_ari> Xyc0: just disabling nvidia's drivers would have fixed it
[02:28] <Red-Sox> !test
[02:28] <ubotu> Failed.
[02:28] <foampeace> hi
[02:28] <bob2_ari> akonkwa: what are you trying to do?
[02:28] <Red-Sox> hi
[02:28] <illicit> LjL: is the only package they have in RPM format?
[02:28] <chcken> DSheperd: man i just installed ubuntu yesterday i have no clue about all these forums and or all the codes and stuff i need to install i figured that some1 in these forums could help me
[02:28] <bob2_ari> Red-Sox: proving a lame point to someone
[02:28] <Red-Sox> bob2_ari: okaaaaaaaay
[02:28] <Xyc0> bob2_ari: what do you mean, when I install xorg-driver-fglrx does it install nvidia drivers aswell?
[02:28] <LjL> illicit: i dunno, but reading what chcken was saying with someone else some minutes ago, i gathered so...
[02:29] <yahya> EdLin: thanks
[02:29] <DShepherd> chcken: now we can help you.
[02:29] <Toma-> !automatix
[02:29] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is an application that automatically installs many popular programs, particularly the proprietary formats that don't ship with most distros by default. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[02:29] <Red-Sox> as you can see my sprinkled facicias emphasise
[02:29] <bob2> Xyc0: er, configuring it to not use the ati drivers, I mean
[02:29] <LjL> illicit: anyway, wouldn't limewire work with Blackdown?
[02:29] <Noah0504> Can anyone help me?  I installed the w32codecs and libdvdcss2 from the PLF repos, but when I try to play a Divx movie or a DVD in totem, neither work.
[02:29] <illicit> LjL: thats the problem with us...eager to help, but too lazy to check it out ourselves.. hehe
[02:29] <Toma-> chcken: get automatix
[02:29] <gwark> which is the better ATI Radeon package please ??   xserver-xorg-driver-ati    -- or  --  xorg-driver-fglrx ???   thanks!!
[02:29] <bob2> rain`: I don't know, sorry
[02:29] <mustard5> Toma-, is that officially sanctioned by the help team?
[02:29] <bob2> gwark: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:29] <chcken> DSheperd: ok thats what ive been trying to get for about 3hours
[02:29] <akonkwa> bob: Well when I try to do a sudo command it says "akonkwa is not par of the sudoers list" but when I try to edit the file, permission's denied
[02:29] <Red-Sox> Noah0504 try libdvdread3
[02:29] <LjL> illicit: well, i'm not going to pollute my system with java, personally :)
[02:29] <Xyc0> gwark: xorg-driver-fglrx. unless you are on 64 bit
[02:29] <chcken> DSheperd: ty help is what i need
[02:29] <Tokenizer> sorry, new to this samba business. installed samba now my windows machine can connect to this terminal, however i see only the following... one folder named "myusername" and another named "home" ..... both of them have a folder in them called "mnt" and two other files ".bash_profile" and another named ".bashrc" ... the question is how can i shared forexample "/var/www" so that my windows computer has access to thsi linux apache server ...... (this is o
[02:29] <Tokenizer> nly within a local home network)
[02:30] <PMantis> bob2_ari, Yeah, a couple panel applets blew up, but NBD
[02:30] <DShepherd> chcken: you on ubuntu right now?
[02:30] <Toma-> mustard5: dunno? it works, it gets things installed, and its gui based. why not use it?
[02:30] <PMantis> bob2_ari, Thanks!
[02:30] <Xyc0> !restricted gwark
[02:30] <chcken> ya
[02:30] <ubotu> Xyc0: I haven't a clue
[02:30] <Noah0504> Well, what about playing Divx files?
[02:30] <Xyc0> oops
[02:30] <chcken> Dsheperd: ya
[02:30] <illicit> LjL: to your question...im not sure, never tried it.
[02:30] <Xyc0> !binary gwark
[02:30] <ubotu> Xyc0: Are you on ritalin?
[02:30] <Red-Sox> !dvd
[02:30] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:30] <PMantis> bob2_ari, Thanks!
[02:30] <gwark> thankyou Xyc0 , bob2
[02:30] <DShepherd> chcken: ok, go to System-> Help-> Ubuntu Starter Guide
[02:30] <Xyc0> thanks ubotu, your a real help
[02:30] <Toma-> chcken: if youre using xchat, type the first few letters of a persons nickname then hit tab
[02:30] <bob2> PMantis: np
[02:30] <chcken> DSheperd: ok
[02:31] <akonkwa> bob: and when I go to systems/administrations/user and groups I get prompted for my passwd but when I enter it , it reports an error
[02:31] <Red-Sox> noah0504: beyond me
[02:31] <bob2> PMantis: dbus doesn't handle restarts well, sadly
[02:31] <DShepherd> chcken: alot of the stuff you going to want to do...is covered in there...
[02:31] <DShepherd> chcken:  the java thing too
[02:31] <bob2> akonkwa: did you do something silly like try to enable the root account?
[02:31] <Noah0504> Hmm...
[02:31] <akonkwa> I probably did
[02:31] <Red-Sox> !tell noah0504 about dvd
[02:31] <DShepherd> chcken: that should keep you busy for a while
[02:31] <PMantis> bob2, It wasn't bad though... battery charge monitor bombed, that's about it.
[02:31] <PMantis> bob2, BTW< you at UBZ?
[02:31] <akonkwa> bob: But I don't think I succeeded
[02:31] <Xyc0> bob2: so should I follow the steps to reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx, let it error, then disable it to show the channel?
[02:32] <Noah0504> haha, Well, I already installed that.
[02:32] <bob2> PMantis: no, sadly
[02:32] <Red-Sox> !poke
[02:32] <bob2> Xyc0: yes
[02:32] <bob2> akonkwa: dues "sudo ls" in a terminal work?
[02:32] <LjL> bob2: yeah
[02:32] <akonkwa> bob: i'll try
[02:32] <PMantis> bob2, Sorry. I thought it was great... was there Nov 3-7
[02:32] <chcken> Dsheperd:were do i go to learn how to install things
[02:32] <Rev-Marc> could someone recomend an open source video editing software and where and how to get it?
[02:32] <bob2> PMantis: ah, cool
[02:32] <chcken> Dsheperd:in the guide
[02:32] <Xyc0> bob2: How do I change back to the generic ati drivers once I error?
[02:33] <PMantis> Mark rocks! :)
[02:33] <bob2> PMantis: they do tend to be fun in between the endless meetings
[02:33] <bob2> Xyc0: edit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[02:33] <PMantis> heh
[02:33] <DShepherd> chcken: yes
[02:33] <gwark> Rev-Marc ... avidemux or LiVes
[02:33] <bob2> PMantis: not going is probably good for my liver, tho
[02:33] <carthik> chcken, this is as good a place as any to learn, what are your problems?
[02:33] <gwark> avidemux is like wondows virtualdub
[02:33] <bob2> Rev-Marc: everyone seems to use kino, no idea how good it is, tho
[02:33] <jimmygoon> how does gnome hibernate?
[02:33] <Rev-Marc> gwark are they available for Ubuntu?
[02:33] <akonkwa> bob: I tried sudo ls, I got prompted for a password, I entered it , and that it says "akonkwa is not ine the sudoers file"
[02:33] <illicit> Anyone upgrade to Dapper yet?
[02:33] <DShepherd> chcken: see your a finding your way around linux all by urself...great....keep up the good work
[02:34] <Rev-Marc> Thanks bob2
[02:34] <carthik> illicit, dont you think its a bit too early to even think about this?
[02:34] <bob2> akonkwa: bah
[02:34] <bob2> akonkwa: you broke it
[02:34] <PMantis> bob2, Yeah, Sunday night we were all in the lounge near reception, singing classic rock songs 'till 2AM. Then Mark(I think) spilled wine on me
[02:34] <bob2> akonkwa: does "groups" show you being in the admin group?
[02:34] <PMantis> Oh well, was fun. :)
[02:34] <bob2> PMantis: hah
[02:34] <akonkwa> bob: how can I see that?
[02:34] <illicit> carthik, Actually, i saw a couple of threads posted around on sum forums...thought sumthin might be available
[02:34] <bob2> akonkwa: is this a warty install, originally?
[02:34] <bob2> akonkwa: run the command groups
[02:34] <chcken> DSheperd : some guy said automatix what is that
[02:34] <jimmygoon> What command does GNOME use to hibernate?
[02:35] <jimmygoon> I need to use it in XFCE4
[02:35] <PMantis> bob2, But, MAN, what a group you guys are!! bzr rocks!
[02:35] <nuck> how do i <Alt-Tab> between XP and Ubuntu without rebooting?
[02:35] <gwark> Rev-Marc if you find the debian package, or the redhat package, (alien -d *.rpm) it will work ...... update manager may eveb find the latest for you once youve installed the debian package
[02:35] <LjL> jimmygoon: i don't think gnome uses a command specific to gnome. /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh should start hibernation in or out of gnome
[02:35] <akonkwa> bob: it's a hoary install , and the command groups prompts "akonkwa adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner"
[02:35] <Red-Sox> jimmygoon: you want to know the command for gnome or xfce4? or you want to use the gnome terminal in  xfce4?
[02:35] <NoUse> nuck are you dual booting?
[02:35] <VisionOfTruth> this blows
[02:36] <nuck> NoUse yes
[02:36] <jimmygoon> red-sox: none... I'm trying to hibernate my pc
[02:36] <PMantis> nuck, LOL use VMWare, only way I know.
[02:36] <VisionOfTruth> DAMN HARDWARE!!!!!!!!!
[02:36] <_Dez> im trying to get my Wireless card working in terminal
[02:36] <NoUse> nuck you can't do that, you have to reboot to bring up a differnet OS
[02:36] <_Dez> it comes up when i do iwconfig
[02:36] <nuck> PMantis yes i was just kidding :-)
[02:36] <jacobkm> Anyone know if the rule of making swap 2x RAM still applies when you've got lots of RAM (as in 8G)?
[02:36] <_Dez> but it wont get DCHP Stuff blah blah
[02:36] <Rev-Marc> gwark thanks
[02:36] <PMantis> nuck, Heh, apparently others didn't know either. :)
[02:36] <jimmygoon> Ljl red-sox : I tried that and when I came back from hibernation it went through the percents and every 10 or so it through an error... eventually it went and it was ok... but I'm worried :)
[02:36] <bob2> jacobkm: it does not
[02:36] <PMantis> sorsis, who here was/is at UBZ?
[02:37] <bob2> jacobkm: if it's a server with 8GB of ram, you probably don't want any swap
[02:37] <bob2> PMantis: hah, thanks
[02:37] <PMantis> Whoops
[02:37] <PMantis> sorsis, who here was/is at UBZ?
[02:37] <LjL> jimmygoon: and that doesn't happen just chosing Hibernate from the Gnome shutdown dialog?
[02:37] <PMantis> Stupid Xchat.
[02:37] <jacobkm> bob2: interesting... do you mean leaving out a swap partition entirely?
[02:37] <jimmygoon> LjL: no thats what I'm worried
[02:37] <Tokenizer> anyone knows how to get files added to my samba share? i have the samba share set up... i want to setup folders on my computer such as /var/www to be shared
[02:38] <Nitewalker> im jst wondering how you install xine because when i went to try install mplayer it said i had to go to a lower c complier which i dont know what that is so now im trying xine
[02:38] <akonkwa> bob2: it's a hoary install , and the command groups prompts "akonkwa adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner"
[02:38] <LjL> jimmygoon: now that i think of it, i think that Gnome actually makes use of a daemon called "power-manager" to hibernate. you can install it, but then i'm not sure how to tell it to hibernate manually
[02:38] <winston> hey people
[02:38] <Toma-> Nitewalker: youre building it from source?
[02:38] <winston> what happened to the terminal option on the right click on the desktop with Breezy^
[02:39] <jimmygoon> LjL: grr... thanks... I did notice though.. I'm an observer and the commands and junk all look the same... :S
[02:39] <bob2> jacobkm: yes
[02:39] <bob2> akonkwa: and sudo used to work?
[02:39] <jimmygoon> and that /etc/acpi/hibernate.py was already there... I sure didn't install it
[02:39] <jrattner1> What players support wma?
[02:39] <bob2> Tokenizer: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf or use the gnome thingy
[02:39] <winston> can I configure the menu to get the terminal option back in?
[02:39] <bob2> jimmygoon: it came with acpi-support
[02:39] <akonkwa> bob2: It never did, I installed ubuntu this morning
[02:39] <unkn0wn2u> jrattner1, mplayer does
[02:39] <bob2> akonkwa: bah
[02:39] <bob2> akonkwa: please don't tell me you did an expert install
[02:39] <Nitewalker> Toma-, i found the command online on how to install it and then i used the command line thing to try that
[02:39] <bob2> because then I'll have to mock you
[02:40] <jrattner1> unkn0wn2u, by default?
[02:40] <bob2> jacobkm: if you have 8GB of ram, you'll never hit swap until the sky is falling
[02:40] <winston> Was anyone here in Montreal for Ubuntu Love Day^
[02:40] <unkn0wn2u> jrattner1, no but with w32codecs it does
[02:40] <bob2> jacobkm: also, you presumably don't want suspend-to-disk, so you don't need swap for that either
[02:40] <akonkwa> bob2: Unfortunately I did (I thought I coul handle it because I had done it before.... :s)
[02:40] <Toma-> Nitewalker: do you know about the synaptic program that comes with ubuntu?
[02:40] <jimmygoon> dang... share some ram with me
[02:40] <jacobkm> bob2: but if I did, what would happen without a swap part?
[02:40] <chcken> DSheperd: dude how can i use this stuff to install java now
[02:40] <jacobkm> bob2: yeah, suspend doesn't matter (it's a server)
[02:41] <Nitewalker> Toma-,  i know of it but not sure how it works tho
[02:41] <bob2> akonkwa: bah
[02:41] <Toma-> Nitewalker: it installs everything you want, for you. just point it in the right place and it works.
[02:41] <bob2> akonkwa: then use your root password to add yourself to the admin group
[02:41] <bob2> chcken: you need to explain PRECISELY waht isn't working, or is too confusing
[02:41] <_Dez> im trying to get my Wireless card working in terminal it comes up when i do iwconfig but it wont get DCHP Stuff blah blah
[02:41] <Nitewalker> Toma-,  okay sounds thats the program for me then
[02:41] <Toma-> Nitewalker: indeed.
[02:42] <bob2> chcken: your vague rants are of no use and will just lead to you being ignored by everyone
[02:42] <Toma-> !multiverse
[02:42] <ubotu> How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example soruces.list
[02:42] <winston> Anyone here know how to edit the right-click menu on the desktop?
[02:42] <Toma-> Nitewalker: check out that link
[02:42] <bob2> jacobkm: nothing happens if you don't have one, aside from the kernel not swapping things out :)
[02:42] <Toma-> then use synaptic to look for mplayer or xine
[02:42] <bob2> jacobkm: if all your ram is used, the kernel will start nuking things (OOM killer) to free it up, so you do need to be careful
[02:42] <Nitewalker> checking now toma and thank you very much for the help
[02:42] <chcken> bob2: ive been sittin here tryin to figure out how to install java can sum1 just lead me through it
[02:42] <Toma-> no problem
[02:43] <winston> Anyone here a contributor to Ubuntu?
[02:43] <DShepherd> chcken: havent found it in the guide?
[02:43] <jacobkm> bob2: it sounds like having something like a 1G "cushion" might be a good idea to avoid OOM killer things (reading about that now); would you concur?
[02:43] <chcken> Dsheperd: no
[02:43] <DShepherd> ok...let me point you to it
[02:43] <chcken> Can sum1 help me or lead me through installing java
[02:44] <winston> Am I invisible or something?
[02:44] <akonkwa> bob2:But when I go to System/administration/user and groups, I get prompted for my password, and when I enter it either does nothing, or prompts me with a "failed to run..." message
[02:44] <DShepherd> you have the System->help-> StarterGuide->applications->? Java
[02:44] <DShepherd> chcken: you cant miss that
[02:45] <chcken> Dsheperd:were is the starter guide part
[02:45] <DShepherd> chcken: Ubuntu starter guide
[02:45] <bob2> chcken: w.t.f.
[02:45] <bob2> winston: lots of people are.
[02:45] <bob2> chcken: that page explains exactly what to do
[02:45] <bob2> chcken: if it's too confusing for you, you need to actually tell us what part is too confusing
[02:46] <bob2> chcken: instead of whining that it's all too hard and that someone should retype it all to you in IRC
[02:46] <winston> Bob2, I sure hope so, were you in montreal for ubuntu love day a couple of weeks ago?
[02:46] <bob2> jacobkm: yes, that is a good plan
[02:46] <bob2> winston: np
[02:46] <bob2> winston: er, "no"
[02:46] <Noah0504> Besides w32codecs, do I need anything to play files such as Divx movies?
[02:46] <winston> hehe gotcha
[02:46] <_Dez> im trying to get my Wireless card working in terminal it comes up when i do iwconfig but it wont get DCHP Stuff blah blah
[02:46] <chcken> DSheperd: in help mine has desktop aplications other docs man pages about ubuntu hoary release notes and ubuntu quick guide
[02:46] <DShepherd> bob2 he should be cool now, the only thing that can stop him now is his ability to read
[02:46] <jacobkm> bob2: awesome; thanks for your help!
[02:46] <_Dez> oops sorry
[02:46] <bob2> Noah0504: are you using mplayer/xine/?
[02:46] <Noah0504> No, just Totem.
[02:46] <bob2> jacobkm: np, good luck with that shiny server of yours
[02:47] <DShepherd> oh....it;s ubuntu hoary you have
[02:47] <winston> So no one here knows how to edit the desktop right-click menu to get back the terminhal option?????
[02:47] <bob2> totem makes everything hard
[02:47] <DShepherd> ok,...
[02:47] <bob2> just using mplayer is far simpler to watch movies
[02:47] <bob2> akonkwa: ignore that
[02:47] <chcken> Dsheperd:how can i change to breezy
[02:47] <bob2> akonkwa: type "su" and your root password in a terminal, then 'adduser whatever admin'
[02:47] <ScatterBrain> I just installed the latest drivers from ATI - 8.18.8.  But I can't run fglrxconfig - it's not installed.  Doesn't this come with the ATI dirver package?
[02:47] <DShepherd> you can download breezy
[02:47] <Toma-> chcken: get this, http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/dists/breezy/java/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb then open up a terminal and run "sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb"
[02:47] <akonkwa> bob2:Ok I'll try that right away
[02:48] <LjL> toma-: well done
[02:48] <SEJeff> winston: There is a nautilus plugin you get from synaptic
[02:48] <DShepherd> chcken: the link that Toma- gave you should work
[02:48] <SEJeff> winston: sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[02:48] <SEJeff> winston: Then you get the terminal back
[02:49] <winston> SEjeff  I will try that
[02:49] <Toma-> why bother with fakeroot when u have dpkg ^_^
[02:49] <DShepherd> SEJeff: what's that?
[02:49] <akonkwa> bob2:it almost worked, but it says the group admin does not exist
[02:49] <bob2> fakeroot is something other than dpkg
[02:49] <bob2> akonkwa: bah
[02:49] <SEJeff> DShepherd: apt-cache show nautilus-open-terminal
[02:49] <winston> SEJeff were you the Jeff in Montreal?
[02:49] <Xyc0> bob2: Where can I find the Xorg error log
[02:49] <bob2> akonkwa: add a line like 'rob     ALL=(ALL) ALL' to the end of /etc/sudoers
[02:49] <bob2> Xyc0: /var/log
[02:49] <SEJeff> winston: Jeff Waugh? no, he is far more a gnome hacker that I
[02:49] <DShepherd> SEJeff: yeah I reading about it...in synaptic.,thanks anyways
[02:49] <bob2> winston: if that jeff was scary and loud, it was probably jeff waugh
[02:50] <RedRose> if i wanted to ban an IP from my server, i would put there IP address in the host.deny file, right?
[02:50] <Nitewalker> Toma-,  at the moment its installing some packages i needed so once those are done how do i get it to find mplayer sori to be a pain in da butt
[02:50] <SEJeff> haha
[02:50] <winston> yeah thats him
[02:50] <bob2> RedRose: ban them from what? network access?
[02:50] <winston> from down under
[02:50] <RedRose> bob2:Yeah
[02:50] <Toma-> Nitewalker: it'll be under Applications, Multimedia, Mplayer
[02:50] <bob2> RedRose: blocking them using iptables might be simpler
[02:50] <RedRose> bob2:i've had someone trying to bruteforce my server and i would like to block them
[02:50] <bob2> RedRose: bld or /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian
[02:51] <RedRose> k
[02:51] <RedRose> ty
[02:51] <winston> SEjeff  I tried what you said, not working, do i need to reboot?
[02:51] <Noah0504> bob2: If I just wanted to play them in Totem, what would I need to do?
[02:51] <bob2> Noah0504: I don't know, I gave up on totem
[02:51] <Xyc0> bob2: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4281
[02:52] <Noah0504> bob2: haha
[02:52] <gwark> gxine is nice
[02:52] <akonkwa> bob2: how do I open the sudoers file with an editor using the terminal?
[02:53] <cyphase> are there undelete utilities for reiserfs?
[02:53] <ctcecil> akonkwa: sudo gedit <file>
[02:53] <tritium> akonkwa, visudo
[02:53] <mustard5> akonkwa, visudo
[02:53] <moccah> !sources
[02:53] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:53] <cyphase> i know there are for ext2..
[02:53] <tritium> akonkwa, you know that you can add the users you want to have sudo priveleges to the admin group, right?
[02:53] <ctcecil> ok, i thought he meant from a prompt, sorry just caught a glimpse
[02:53] <SEJeff> RedRose: hosts.deny isn't used in all servers. bob2's suggestion of blocking the ip with a firewall rule is better
[02:54] <winston> SEjeff  I tried what you said, not working, do i need to reboot?
[02:54] <SEJeff> winston: Nautilus is kind of stupid with extensions. Just like the panel is stupid about recognizing newly installed applets
[02:54] <SEJeff> winston: You will likely have to logout or just kill and restart nautilus
[02:55] <bob2> akonkwa: nano /etc/sudoers
[02:55] <winston> ok kill, kill, kill
[02:55] <akonkwa> tritium: yes but I can't get into systems/administration/groups without being prompet "failed to run.." and I can't edit the sudoers files using the file explorer because then permission is denied
[02:55] <ctcecil> I'm having hella trouble with using my Intel Easy PC Camera webcam
[02:55] <akonkwa> bob2: thanx
[02:55] <ctcecil> even after i installed drivers for it
[02:56] <ctcecil> i installed http://spca50x.sourceforge.net/spca50x.php?page=cams and it still wont work with gnome meeting or camorama
[02:56] <winston> SEJeff It works!! but im greedy, can i get the term as my first option as in hoary??
[02:56] <tritium> akonkwa, use visudo then
[02:57] <Toma-> ctcecil: whats it doing?
[02:57] <ctcecil> ctcecil: the same stuff
[02:57] <ctcecil> "could not connect to video device /dev/video0
[02:57] <Nothingman> hi, all
[02:57] <SEJeff> winston: no
[02:57] <Xyc0> bob2: See anything int he error log?
[02:57] <Nothingman> is there an easy way to get XFree86 on Breezy?
[02:57] <Nitewalker> when u go to use xine and install it do u only need the xine -ui file to get it to work or is there something else to go with that
[02:58] <foobar> Does anyone know why my inetd.conf file would be empty (as in, 0kb)?
[02:58] <bob2> Nothingman: why?
[02:58] <SEJeff> Nothingman: Why do you want XFree86? xorg is superior
[02:58] <bob2> foobar: because it's not needed by default?
[02:58] <Noah0504> Does anyone else feel the default Ubuntu fonts are a little "blah?"
[02:58] <unkn0wn2u> foobar, because its empty
[02:58] <winston> SEJeff Shiite -- thanks anywayz, I did love the idea of having it as the first option
[02:58] <Nothingman> bob2: the radeon driver works under XF864.4, but not x.org 6.8
[02:58] <foobar>  then how would I close unneeded ports? =/
[02:58] <unkn0wn2u> Noah0504, so change them
[02:58] <winston> % B] ] ] ] ] 
[02:58] <Nothingman> and I can't wait for x.org 6.9
[02:59] <livinded> i'm getting an error when trying to install unreal tournament:goty and 2003, is there a compatability issue with the x86_64 kernel?
[02:59] <bob2> Nothingman: 4.4 is not in Ubuntu (or any other free OS that I know of)
[02:59] <Xyc0> Nothingman: im wrestling with that problem too
[02:59] <Toma-> ctcecil: does "lsmod | grep spca" show up anything?
[02:59] <SEJeff> foobar: Ubuntu has a policy of 0 open ports by default. If you don't believe the ububuntu devs, install firestarter from apt
[02:59] <bob2> Xyc0: tell it to not use the fraebuffer
[02:59] <Noah0504> unkn0wn2u: Did you change yours?
[02:59] <bob2> foobar: there are no "ports" to close
[02:59] <Nothingman> bob2 and SEJeff: they're on KnoppMyth
[02:59] <unkn0wn2u> Noah0504, no
[02:59] <akonkwa> bob2: one i've edited the etc file with gedit in the terminal, how do I save and exit it?
[02:59] <Nothingman> bob2 and SEJeff: I need the 3D support *and* TVout
[02:59] <Xyc0> Option "fraebuffer" off ?
[02:59] <bob2> Xyc0: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:59] <unkn0wn2u> Noah0504, did you?
[02:59] <ctcecil> Toma-: no
[02:59] <bob2> Xyc0: yeah
[03:00] <Toma-> ctcecil: well i think its not getting loaded....
[03:00] <Nothingman> Xyc0: that would be "framebuffer"
[03:00] <Toma-> ctcecil: try sudo modprobe spca5xx
[03:00] <F-Jakob> http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk
[03:00] <ctcecil> Toma-: should i have to do something besides install the .deb?
[03:00] <Xyc0> bob2: wait, should I reconfigure or edit the xorg config
[03:00] <DShepherd> bob2 enabling frame buffer does what?
[03:00] <ctcecil> module spca5xx not found
[03:00] <Toma-> ctcecil: what exactly did you install?
[03:00] <foobar> SEJeff: yea I installed firestarter, but when i nmap myself im getting open ports... am I missing something here.. =/
[03:00] <Nothingman> Xyc0: I would simply edit
[03:00] <bob2> Xyc0: reconfigure if it works, edit if not
[03:01] <tcmjr> Help here guys. This is the problem: I have an Abit kd-7 board 2 main IDE's and 2 RAID IDE's: main hdd on IDE1, optic drives on IDE2, 1HDD on IDE-RAID1 and 1 HDD on IDE-RAID 2. I installed ubuntu on IDE-RAID 2 and set grub to /dev/hdg (wich is the hdd I want) but when i try to boot to that hdd I have grub error 21, anyone got a clue ?
[03:01] <ctcecil> spca5xx-source_20051001-1_all.deb
[03:01] <bob2> DShepherd: it tells X to not poke for /dev/fb* devices...I'm not actually sure what it does instead
[03:01] <Nitewalker> when u go to use xine and install it do u only need the xine -ui file to get it to work or is there something else to go with that
[03:01] <winston> How to I enable my machines to ssh?
[03:01] <bob2> perhaps just hitting up the AGP bus directly?
[03:01] <bob2> winston: install openssh-server
[03:01] <Toma-> ctcecil: thats not a driver. thats the source code,
[03:01] <ctcecil> where would it install
[03:01] <DShepherd> bob2 so it gives u better framerate or something
[03:02] <livinded> i'm getting this error, http://pastebin.com/423864 when tryign to install uneal tournament goty and 2k3, is there a compatability issue with the x86_64 kernel
[03:02] <Toma-> ctcecil: you dont need it.
[03:02] <bob2> DShepherd: don't think it really matters, it's just a different way of accessing it
[03:02] <chris_> when i run dvd::rip it complains that it can use stdin xine.. i have lxinelib and gxine installed but it is looking for the executable 'xine' am i missing something?
[03:02] <Noah0504> unkn0wn2u: No, but I think I may.  I just did a fresh install of Breezy to replace my Windows XP install.  I'm just trying to get other things taken care of now.  I'm still new to this world they call Linux, haha.
[03:02] <DShepherd> bob2 ok thanks
[03:02] <moccah> GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release --- what to do?
[03:03] <moccah> !GPG error
[03:03] <ubotu> moccah: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:03] <akonkwa> bob2: one i've edited the etc file with gedit in the terminal, how do I save and exit it?
[03:03] <dabaR> !gpgerr
[03:03] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[03:03] <winston> bob2 thanks, quickest reply ever!
[03:03] <dabaR> also, moccah search the !list when looking for something, please do not test it the channel if you do not know whether something exists, or ask ubotu directly.
[03:03] <foobar> would I be able to use the hosts.deny file to block adserver ips?
[03:03] <ctcecil> Toma- what do you mean i dont need it
[03:03] <bob2> akonkwa: save fom the file manu?
[03:04] <bob2> foobar: no
[03:04] <Toma-> it should be installed with the kernel
[03:04] <chris_> ok past that.. what the (*)*# does this mean? "cdrecord device (n,n,n or filename): 0,X,0 has not format n,n,n and is no file : NOT Ok"
[03:04] <Nothingman> bob2: how does that give me TVout
[03:04] <bob2> foobar: firewalling or /etc/hosts hacks are simplest
[03:04] <moccah> dabaR, sure thing
[03:04] <ctcecil> Toma-: spca5xx?
[03:04] <bob2> Nothingman: I don't know what you're talking about
[03:04] <Toma->  apt-file search spca5xx.ko linux-image-2.6.12-9-386: lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media/spca5xx/spca5xx.ko
[03:04] <foobar> bob2: I see, thanks
[03:04] <winston> I LUV f-spot btw
[03:04] <Nitewalker> Toma-,  with xine amd i to download only the xine-ui file or is there something else i need?
[03:04] <winston> best image viewer ive seen
[03:04] <juan1963> hello
[03:04] <that_weasel> anyone have a link for a Ubuntu MythTV how to...
[03:05] <ctcecil> How do i untar a .gz2 i forgot
[03:05] <juan1963> i have a question
[03:05] <Toma-> Nitewalker: yeh you need xine-ui or gxine
[03:05] <Nothingman> Xyc0 said that he was having the same problem I was and you told him to add 'Option "framebuffer" "no"' to his xorg.conf
[03:05] <that_weasel> synaptic keeps failing at the mythtv-database part because the login fails
[03:05] <bob2> ctcecil: bz2? bunzip2.
[03:05] <Nitewalker> thats the one ive downloaded xine-ui
[03:05] <livinded> i'm getting this error, http://pastebin.com/423864 when trying to install uneal tournament goty and 2k3, is there a compatability issue with the x86_64 kernel
[03:05] <akonkwa> bob2: there is no 'save' in the file menu... :s  only something like  "^X exit " and more...
[03:05] <bob2> Nothingman: I never said you had the same problem
[03:05] <bob2> akonkwa: ok
[03:05] <bob2> akonkwa: don't use gedit then
[03:06] <juan1963> i have installed the distribution but I cannot find the root password... i haven't been asked for the root password when I installed
[03:06] <Red-Sox> juan1963: go on
[03:06] <Toma-> ctcecil: follow this howto http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75284&highlight=webcam
[03:06] <Toma-> ctcecil: it made my webcam work
[03:06] <bob2> juan1963: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:06] <Nothingman> OK, so does anyone know where I can get XFree86 for Breezy?
[03:06] <bob2> juan1963: the installer mentioned this to you, as did the FAQ
[03:06] <bob2> Nothingman: www.xfree86.org
[03:06] <bob2> Nothingman: it will be a long and tedious process, tho
[03:06] <CameronBergh> Hey you amazing ubuntu'ers you!
[03:06] <Nothingman> so you
[03:06] <subzero440> i previously installed the kubuntu desktop on an ubuntu installation. how will i uninstall the kubuntu desktop?
[03:06] <Nothingman> *you're* suggesting source?
[03:06] <bob2> akonkwa: note you need to have su'd to actually edit that file
[03:06] <Nitewalker> Toma-,  how do u actually get synaptic to check for the stuff for xine as ive extracted the folder where i have all my downloads going
[03:06] <bob2> Nothingman: I'm suggesting not using xfree86 at all
[03:07] <bob2> Nothingman: if you're inistent on using it, I guess you have to compile it
[03:07] <Nothingman> bob2: not an option
[03:07] <LjL> subzero440: aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop, if you used aptitude (or perhaps also synaptic?) to install it
[03:07] <Nothingman> XF86 provides TVout
[03:07] <winston> I saw a demo of a prog used to open other progs. Looks like a mac-type program but its basically used to type in the name of a prog you want to launch and guesses using auto completion and shows the prog icon in the center of the screen. Anyone know what the prog name is so i can dl it??
[03:07] <bob2> subzero440: depends how you installed it
[03:07] <LjL> subzero440: otherwise, you're in trouble
[03:07] <Toma-> Nitewalker: theres no extracting involved...
[03:07] <bob2> winston: alt-f2
[03:07] <Nitewalker> okay
[03:07] <Nothingman> does anyone *else* have an idea on how to get XF86 on Breezy?
[03:07] <juan1963> Thank you !!
[03:07] <gimmulf_> how do i run an shell script? (.sh)
[03:07] <psusi> only grub gives some very terse error message about the partition table when I give it the root command
[03:07] <subzero440> i installed the kubuntu desktop thru apt-get.
[03:07] <akonkwa> bob2: and I did , I did su, like you told me too... so... what else should I use to edit the sudoers file?
[03:07] <jsubl2> winston: my guess is a kde program called katapult
[03:08] <Toma-> Nitewalker: ill find you a guide to synaptic
[03:08] <LjL> subzero440: well then you're in trouble. but you can start removing kdelibs
[03:08] <LjL> subzero440: that'll remove a lot of it
[03:08] <winston> bob2 not that, maybe katapult, ill try...
[03:08] <mustard5> akonkwa, is your sudo mucked up?
[03:08] <_Dez> oops sorry
[03:08] <_Dez> im trying to get my Wireless card working in terminal it comes up when i do iwconfig but it wont get DCHP Stuff blah blah
[03:09] <CameronBergh> while doing an install of breezy, all i get is a textbased login screen. does anyone know why?
[03:09] <akonkwa> mustard5: It seems to be... I don't really understand what is wrong
[03:09] <bob2> akonkwa: nano /etc/sudoers
[03:09] <that_weasel> CameronBergh, did you chose to install Xorg?
[03:09] <gimmulf_> how do i run an shell script? (.sh)
[03:09] <Xyc0> bob2: reconfigure didnt work, was that Option "FrameBuffer" "off" or "no" or what?
[03:09] <mustard5> akonkwa, what error is it giving you?
[03:09] <juan1963> bob2: Thank you very much
[03:09] <psusi> gimmulf_, bash foo.sh
[03:10] <that_weasel> still looking for a mythtv howto if anyone has a good link...  ;)
[03:10] <CameronBergh> that_weasel: i didnt choose anything, when the installer reboots to finish installing packages it just goes to this login
[03:10] <tcmjr> Help here guys. This is the problem: I have an Abit kd-7 board 2 main IDE's and 2 RAID IDE's: main hdd on IDE1, optic drives on IDE2, 1HDD on IDE-RAID1 and 1 HDD on IDE-RAID 2. I installed ubuntu on IDE-RAID 2 and set grub to /dev/hdg (wich is the hdd I want) but when i try to boot to that hdd I have grub error 21, anyone got a clue ?
[03:10] <akonkwa> bob2: It says permission denied
[03:10] <LjL> subzero440: by the way, if you want my opinion, use aptitude in the future, that will allow removing a package *and* all the dependencies that were installed automatically
[03:10] <akonkwa> mustard5: It says akonkwa is not part of the sudoers file
[03:10] <that_weasel> CameronBergh: are you sure thats its booting the installer and not some other installation?
[03:10] <bob2> Xyc0: either should work, I think
[03:10] <mustard5> akonkwa, you might have to try getting to a root prompt through recovery mode
[03:11] <Toma-> Nitewalker: cant find a howto, but this http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/action.html shows how it works, kinda...
[03:11] <CameronBergh> that_weasel: i have formatted many times... so i dont know why it would
[03:11] <bob2> tcmjr: it's not RAID, ignore that part of it
[03:11] <z3r0x> !file crypt
[03:11] <psusi> tcmjr, why don't you use the raid part?
[03:11] <bob2> tcmjr: sure your BIOS can boot from those last two channels?
[03:11] <Toma-> Nitewalker: you select the packages you want with right click, then click apply changes
[03:11] <ctcecil> Toma-: i did all that and at the end i got
[03:11] <ctcecil> FATAL: Error inserting spca5xx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media/spca5xx.ko): Invalid module format
[03:11] <MaTaKs> how can i restart usb device?
[03:11] <Nitewalker> Toma-,  thanks i will try that now
[03:12] <Toma-> ctcecil: youre not on breezy are you?
[03:12] <psusi> it sounds like the bios is booting the correct drive, but then the grub stage 1 loader is trying to load stage 2 from the disk but is using the wrong bios disk number... I wouldn't be surprised if it assumes it should use bios disk 80 which is not the case here
[03:12] <dpirotte> Hi there... I removed the /etc/apache2 folder after doing sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2
[03:12] <dpirotte> and now when I try to reinstall apache2, the /etc/apache2 folder doesn't come back.
[03:12] <ctcecil> Toma-: no, all i have is hoary CD's
[03:12] <dpirotte> Any thoughts?
[03:12] <akonkwa> mustard5:how do I get to recovery mode?
[03:12] <Toma-> :(
[03:12] <Ophiocus> how can i know which kernel am running?
[03:12] <ctcecil> Toma-: is there a way to update without re-downloading and re-installing
[03:12] <moccah> dabaR_, hmm, still i get the GPG error...
[03:12] <akonkwa> bob2: do you also think I should go to recovery mode?
[03:13] <mustard5> akonkwa, its an option in your grub menu
[03:13] <tcmjr> bob2, yeah it can i can choose on the bios boot (ata133raid) and on the raid menu choose the main drive for booting
[03:13] <LjL> Ophiocus: cat /proc/version
[03:13] <Toma-> ctcecil: nope..
[03:13] <akonkwa> mustard5: ok
[03:13] <mustard5> akonkwa, when you boot up, you might have to hit ESC to get the grub menu
[03:13] <DShepherd>  I want a gnome program that can remember clipboard entries..so I can use them when I want even if it's the 3rsd , 4th or 5th thing I copied. Know where I can find a good one?
[03:13] <Red-Sox> how do you add the trash bin to the panel in gnome?
[03:13] <subzero440> the uninstallation is successful. but why is it the k applications that was previously installed when i installed the desktop were not removed?
[03:14] <bob2> akonkwa: that will work, too
[03:14] <Noah0504> LjL: Are those MS fonts?
[03:14] <LjL> subzero440: because if you use apt-get, dependencies that were installed automatically will not be removed automatically
[03:14] <Toma-> Red-Sox: right-click the panel, Add to panel.., scroll down to Desktop&Windows and its in there
[03:14] <bob2> tcmjr: it's still not raid.  can you boot into ubuntu with a live cd and re-grub-install?
[03:14] <LjL> Noah0504: yeah. i mean, maybe you don't like it as a matter of principle, but they do look better
[03:15] <tcmjr> bob2, I'm on the livecd right now :)
[03:15] <tcmjr> bob2, just have no idea how to regrub it
[03:15] <psusi> tcmjr, do you want to raid the two drives or use them seperately?
[03:15] <Ophiocus> you meant cat /proc/version right?
[03:15] <Ophiocus> :P
[03:15] <Ophiocus> thanks
[03:15] <Noah0504> LjL: I may have to install them and give them a looky.  I actually really like many of the MS fonts.
[03:15] <akonkwa> bob2: Isn't there any other way? gedit didn't work because I couldn't save and exit, and nano prompted 'permission denied', isn't there another way than recovery mode?
[03:15] <Red-Sox> tOMA-: tHANKS, i WASNT GETTING THE SCROLL DOWN PART
[03:15] <LjL> Ophiocus: why, what did i say?
[03:15] <bob2> tcmjr: chroot /mnt/whevereryourrootpartitionis/ /bin/bash
[03:16] <Nitewalker> does synaptic search my computer for particular files right?
[03:16] <Ophiocus> cat proc/version
[03:16] <Toma-> Nitewalker: no
[03:16] <bob2> tcmjr: update-grub ; grub-install /dev/hdc (or whatever it was)
[03:16] <mustard5> akonkwa, not really..if your sudoers file doesnt have you in it
[03:16] <pppoe_dude> hi. how can i use PSI to add my msn contacts?
[03:16] <LjL> Noah0504: clearly, they're not open source, but MS is giving them away for free, and they can be installed easily in ubuntu using apt
[03:16] <Toma-> Nitewalker: it searched the online repository of files for what you need
[03:16] <bob2> akonkwa: these all point to you not actually using su as I said you had to
[03:16] <tcmjr> psusi, I just want to to boot ubuntu from one of the drives on the raid ide
[03:16] <mustard5> akonkwa, unless you set a root password at some stage
[03:16] <bob2> akonkwa: there's little I can do if you don't do that
[03:16] <bob2> mustard5: he/she did
[03:16] <Toma-> then downloads and installs everything you need
[03:16] <mustard5> akonkwa, have you set a root password at any stage for some reason?
[03:16] <Nitewalker> okay
 Ophiocus: cat /proc/version <--- no, i didn't :P
[03:16] <psusi> tcmjr, ok... I've got my two drives raided and am trying to get grub to boot from that ;)
[03:17] <winston> jsubl2 and bob2 katapult, thats the one!! pretty cool
[03:17] <akonkwa> mustard5: yes I have
[03:17] <Noah0504> LjL: Thanks.
[03:17] <psusi> I managed to get lilo to work, but I have never used grub before...
[03:17] <pppoe_dude> or is the msn transport just for the server? i.e. I can't do much about it?
[03:17] <akonkwa> bob2: I'm sorry, I don't unsterstand everything, how am I supposed to use su?
[03:17] <nuck> hi why my firefox can't display porn? it hangs?
[03:18] <mustard5> akonkwa, the you can hit ctrl + alt +f2 then login as root and do visudo
[03:18] <Toma-> haha
[03:18] <Nitewalker> Toma-,  they aint small files for xine are they
[03:18] <bob2> akonkwa: "su"
[03:18] <mustard5> akonkwa, ctr + alt + f7 will bring you back to desktop
[03:18] <Nitewalker> :D
[03:18] <Toma-> Nitewalker: theyre not 5kb, but theyre not 50mb.
[03:18] <mustard5> bob2, I'll stay quiet :)
[03:18] <LjL> bob2: i haven't been following this, but how is "su" supposed to work in ubuntu? i suppose you mean using it to switch to root?
[03:18] <Toma-> Nitewalker: it'll tell you how much needs to be downloaded when you click Apply Changes
[03:19] <bob2> LjL: akonkwa is special and did an "expert" install, which doesn't setup sudo but does ask for a root password
[03:19] <mustard5> LjL, akonkwa has a root password set up so he can use that
[03:19] <DrZeus> hi all.  Im trying to recompile a kernel but xconfig nor gconfig are working
[03:19] <LjL> mustard5, bob2: i see
[03:19] <bob2> DrZeus: why are you trying to compile a kernel?
[03:19] <mustard5> LjL, its not advisable to keep a root password set up though
[03:20] <LjL> mustard5: sure sure
[03:20] <tcmjr> bob2,  I don't think the livecd is recognizing the disk
[03:20] <DrZeus> xconfig: unable to find Qt instalation; gconfig: unable to find GTK installation
[03:20] <blank> who here enabled the root account on their box
[03:20] <winston> ok gotta get back to werk, thanks everybody, be seeing you around
[03:20] <silversurfer> root account can be created
[03:20] <blank> I'm learning linux and do you guys think that enabling it will help me get a bietter understandment of it?
[03:21] <blank> silversurfer: i know, that's why I'm asking who has done it
[03:21] <Agrajag> DrZeus: use menuconfig, or install the GTK or QT development packages
[03:21] <silversurfer> root acoount is set by the expert mode installation
[03:21] <DrZeus> bob2, because in my laptop the acpi doesnt recognize the state of the battery; I found a patch that says it is needed to recompile a kernel without the acpi support
[03:21] <Xenguy> blank: on one box I made a root account, on the other I didn't -- they both work fine :-)
[03:21] <LjL> black: NO, do not enable it
[03:21] <mustard5> blank, no
[03:21] <blank> silversurfer: how can I get into expert mode installation
[03:21] <EdLin> blank, you don't need to do that, just run sudo -s and you'll get a root shell
[03:21] <LjL> black: you can learn as much using sudo, you don't need a root account
[03:21] <bob2> DrZeus: this is with 2.6.12?
[03:21] <blank> why not, the wiki on ubuntu tells you how to do it if you want
[03:21] <Xenguy> blank: root is the traditional *nix model that's all
[03:21] <silversurfer> type expert
[03:21] <DrZeus> bob2, yes
[03:21] <bob2> DrZeus: please do file a bug so yi can be included in the next release
[03:21] <silversurfer> when you inserted the cd at boot
[03:21] <LjL> black: that's the key, IF you want... you DONT want ;P
[03:22] <mustard5> blank, akonkwa is a special case..he used expert install and that requires the you edit the sudoers file to give yourself sudo privileges
[03:22] <bob2> DrZeus: install build-essential and libncurses5-dev, and then make menuconfig will work
[03:22] <blank> oh really, hey I remember that in 5.04, when I installed it downloaded all the updates, in 5.10 it doesnt do that, is that waht expert install does?
[03:22] <silversurfer> then you install your ubuntu box at expert mode
[03:22] <blank> oh, then nevermind
[03:22] <blank> lol
[03:22] <DrZeus> menuconfig is working, but I thought xconfig was fine
[03:22] <Toma-> DrZeus: you could always try the acpi=off kernel arguement in grub
[03:22] <bob2> DrZeus: libqt3-mt-dev, I'd think
[03:22] <silversurfer> dr17 rocks on ubuntu
[03:22] <silversurfer> I like it
[03:22] <DrZeus> Toma-, but can that make the system recognize the state of the battery?
[03:22] <Agrajag> DrZeus: it needs to compile a small program to run xconfig, you need gtk2.0-dev for that
[03:22] <silversurfer> so fast
[03:22] <blank> silversurfer: when it downloads the package during installation, that's when it's expert mode?
[03:22] <blank> dr17?
[03:22] <akonkwa> mustard5: once I hit ctrl alt F2,  what can I do so that I can use sudo like everyone else?
[03:23] <silversurfer> yes
[03:23] <blank> Sir_Nick: nice name, I have a friend like that
[03:23] <Toma-> DrZeus: it'll turn off acpi without having to re-build the kernel
[03:23] <blank> silversurfer: oh no wonder
[03:23] <blank> silversurfer: how much harder is expert mode
[03:23] <silversurfer> enlightenment
[03:23] <blank> mm?
[03:23] <mustard5> akonkwa, come with me to another channel  #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:23] <mustard5> akonkwa, I'll walk you through it
[03:23] <silversurfer> expert mode is no harder that normal mode
[03:23] <Toma-> that way you can continue going whatever horrible thing you were about to do to your laptop :)
[03:23] <blank> silversurfer: what's the difference?
[03:23] <johnsie2> !.deb
[03:24] <ubotu> johnsie2: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:24] <DrZeus> Toma-, I need to apply a patch that was done for my laptop model(toshiba satellite pro L10)
[03:24] <Xenguy> blank: just try it if you want to find out (I never have actually)
[03:24] <silversurfer> you just got to assist the installation because you will be asked for some advenced options
[03:24] <DrZeus> can I just apply it in the current kernel Im using without recompiling it?
[03:24] <johnsie2> how to install/extract a .deb file?
[03:24] <Ophiocus> in setting up a box to be the proxy, which of these should i perform first, and which does interfere with another(if any) : 1) dhcp server for internal network 2)proxy server/NAT to link external and internal networks 3)firewall   ??
[03:24] <tcmjr> bob2, could not use the command you gave me I have nothing on /mnt
[03:24] <Toma-> DrZeus: you cant compile it as a module at all?
[03:24] <silversurfer> for example you can select the installed kernel
[03:24] <mustard5> akonkwa, /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:24] <blank> silversurfer: I have adequate knowledge of linux, will that do?
[03:24] <Agrajag> johnsie2: dpkg -i
[03:24] <bob2> tcmjr: you need to mount it  first...
[03:24] <akonkwa> mustard5: ok thanks
[03:24] <Xenguy> johnsie2: ar
[03:24] <silversurfer> yes
[03:24] <blank> ah, are there default settings you can choose if you dont understand?
[03:24] <johnsie2> thamks
[03:24] <pppoe_dude> so is there anyway to use msn on psi?
[03:24] <silversurfer> it's remain easy
[03:24] <blank> for example for kernel decision
[03:24] <Nitewalker> toma so once the files are all downloaded does that mean i can start using xine?
[03:25] <blank> pppoe_dude: psi?
[03:25] <Xenguy> johnsie2: or dpkg -i (to install)
[03:25] <silversurfer> I prefer expert mode
[03:25] <tcmjr> bob2, could you help me on the command to mount it ?
[03:25] <Toma-> Nitewalker: yes... sort of. it'll download AND install it for you. then you can start
[03:25] <silversurfer> Then you got the root account created
[03:25] <DrZeus> Toma-, here are the instructions of doing the patch http://www.minet.uni-jena.de/~ferdy/l10.html#way1
[03:25] <blank> silversurfer: oh so in expert mode you can create the root account
[03:25] <blank> cool
[03:25] <silversurfer> yes
[03:25] <Toma-> Nitewalker: what were you planning on watching? because windows codecs and dvd codecs arnt included :(
[03:25] <bob2> tcmjr: not unless you can tell us what partition you want to mount
[03:25] <Agrajag> blank: there's a root account already
[03:26] <silversurfer> it simply ask you for the root password
[03:26] <rozar> SILAV
[03:26] <Agrajag> The only difference is how you log into it
[03:26] <blank> ah
[03:26] <DrZeus> I was looking at the kernel compile section of the howtos; its kinda complicated.  I have recompiled a kernel before, but because I dont have to do it so often, i forget most of the time
[03:26] <silversurfer> blank how do you talk directly to som1
[03:26] <silversurfer> ?
[03:26] <that_weasel> crap i removed mysql and reinstalled it to fix a problem with mythtv install and now I can't login to mysql with my old password or set a new one....
[03:26] <blank> type /query nick
[03:26] <blank> for example /query blank
[03:26] <Toma-> DrZeus: well, youre on your own with that.
[03:26] <silversurfer> ok
[03:26] <tcmjr> bob2, the hd is hdg and it was instaled using the standard ubuntu partition 1 ext3 and 1 swap i think
[03:27] <Toma-> DrZeus: just use menuconfig
[03:27] <dooglus> DrZeus: it's not hard at all in ubuntu.  there's a package that does it all for you
[03:27] <silversurfer> How many of you got dr17?
[03:27] <blank> what's that
[03:27] <that_weasel> E?
[03:27] <DrZeus> dooglus, is it kpkg?
[03:27] <silversurfer> yes enlightenment
[03:27] <dooglus> DrZeus: get 'kernel-package'
[03:27] <dooglus> DrZeus: yes.
[03:27] <silversurfer> It owns
[03:28] <bob2> tcmjr: mount -t ext3 /dev/hdg1 /mnt
[03:28] <blank> what's enlightenment, a game?
[03:28] <silversurfer> the faster and the most eye candy interfact
[03:28] <blank> got a link?
[03:28] <silversurfer> interface
[03:28] <blank> Sir_Nick: nice name
[03:28] <blank> got a link?
[03:28] <silversurfer> www.get-e.org
[03:28] <that_weasel> silversurfer: i can't find a good howto with package, and I don't dare install from source on a distro since it f's up package management so often
[03:28] <Xenguy> blank: a window manager
[03:28] <silversurfer> It got native shadows
[03:28] <DrZeus> blank, enlightenment is not precisely a game
[03:28] <Toma-> silversurfer: its also pretty unstable >_>
[03:28] <dooglus> DrZeus: if you have specific questions, pm me and I'll do my best to help you
[03:28] <silversurfer> non
[03:29] <silversurfer> no
[03:29] <blank> so I dont miss much when I dont have root account enabled right, I mean, sudo just does as well
[03:29] <silversurfer> not now
[03:29] <blank> non, lol, getting frenchy are we
[03:29] <Toma-> crashed like a 747 on my pc
[03:29] <that_weasel> blank,  its a window manager....dr17 version is moving towards a desktop enviroment though
[03:29] <blank> ah
[03:29] <silversurfer> since last moutth for me it's pretty stable
[03:29] <Agrajag> blank: you don't miss anything.
[03:29] <silversurfer> I'm french
[03:29] <silversurfer> lol
[03:29] <blank> that's cool, then I'll stick with ubuntu
[03:29] <blank> silversurfer: cool, I'm learning it :D
[03:29] <Agrajag> the root account still exists, whether it has a password set or not
[03:29] <theturtl> ran fine on slack for me since a few months ago
[03:29] <silversurfer> forget it
[03:29] <DrZeus> dooglus, ok let me try and then ask you then
[03:29] <dooglus> DrZeus: I wrote a couple of shell functions to build the kernel for me.  See http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4283
[03:30] <silversurfer> french sucks
[03:30] <blank> LOL
[03:30] <blank> I'm mexican, I like spanish
[03:30] <Toma-> silversurfer: but it did look spectacular before it crashed and burned :D
[03:30] <rain`> francais mangez les chiens
[03:30] <Toma-> the animated backgrounds are so sxc.
[03:30] <nuck> hi how do i install a printer in ubuntu? im using a dell printer on a dell laptop and it's driver is only for xp? thanks
[03:30] <that_weasel> anyone know how to recover a password in mysql-server or just reset the root, or just reset to the default mysql install>
[03:30] <blank> trying to look for enlightenment screenshots
[03:30] <rain`> nuck: what model?
[03:30] <silversurfer> lol
[03:30] <dooglus> that_weasel: there's #mysql here - probably best to ask there
[03:30] <Xenguy> !printer
[03:30] <ubotu> from memory, printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[03:30] <nuck> rain' dell printer 710 laptop 510
[03:31] <nuck> rain` dell printer 710 laptop 510
[03:31] <Toma-> nuck: System > Admin. > Printing
[03:31] <silversurfer> for installing dr17 >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155
[03:31] <andrew_> i'm having some issues with mp3 tags, does rythymplayer use taglib?
[03:31] <nuck> Toma- yes i tried it but have problem when it comes to the driver part
[03:31] <Toma-> hmm
[03:31] <rain`> nuck: for mine, I have a 720, and its based off of a lexmark z600, so I got the driver from lexmark, im not sure what the 710 is based off of
[03:32] <Nitewalker> Toma-,  jst some avi's i was given its my brothers wedding i wanted to put on my linux machine
[03:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there any way to recursively move every file under some folder to another location through a regular expression like *.ogg
[03:32] <Toma-> Nitewalker: you might wanna look at !w32codecs
[03:32] <Toma-> !w32codecs
[03:32] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/
[03:33] <silversurfer> http://www.soulmachine.net/wiki/index.php?title=Enlightenment_on_Ubuntu_5.10_%28Breezy_Badger%29
[03:33] <that_weasel> I was hoping for a Ubuntu friendly "how to fix it so it doesn't fudge up package management' method
[03:33] <nuck> !printer driver dell
[03:33] <ubotu> nuck: Are you smoking crack?
[03:33] <blank> i've always been meaning to ask this section
[03:33] <blank> ROFL UBOTU
[03:33] <that_weasel> dooglus, I was hoping for a Ubuntu friendly "how to fix it so it doesn't fudge up package management' method
[03:33] <blank> how can I make my desktop to look like this, with the bar across the bottom with those icons, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/24840-1.jpg
[03:33] <Nitewalker> Toma-,  so what does that do does that enable me to play my brothers avi's?
[03:33] <nuck> !do you? don't pick a fight with me ubotu
[03:33] <ubotu> nuck: I give up, what is it?
[03:34] <livinded> is there any way to install unreal tournament goty without disk 2?
[03:34] <blank> what was that
[03:34] <Toma-> Nitewalker: and realplayer file and quicktime and a bunch of other windows type of movies
[03:34] <silversurfer> the bar in botton is with gdesklets
[03:34] <blank> hey, always been meaning to ask this question, how can I make my pc look like this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/24840-1.jpg
[03:34] <blank> gdesklets?
[03:34] <silversurfer> yeah
[03:34] <blank> kay I'll search it
[03:34] <Nitewalker> !w32codecs
[03:34] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/
[03:34] <silversurfer> apt-get install gdesklets
[03:34] <rain`> nuck: hold on, I will find the lexmark drivers that work for it
[03:34] <that_weasel> blank, "*blank has quit (Nick collision from services.)"
[03:34] <silversurfer> its the most known gnome eye candy app
[03:35] <blank> nick collision? what's that
[03:35] <blank> thanks silversurfe
[03:35] <blank> *r
[03:35] <dooglus> that_weasel: I reckon #mysql is your best bet
[03:35] <that_weasel> blank, google "IRC nick collision"
[03:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> what is the other way of doing `` in an expression?
[03:35] <blank> obviously it's that someone else had my name I guess
[03:36] <blank> can I register my name here
[03:36] <nuck> how good is the marketing for ubuntu going? i hope everysingle computer user in the world gets acopy of it
[03:36] <LjL> black: yeah you can
[03:36] <dooglus> if I log into a virtual console, what do I need to do to let it open programs on my X display?  I copied the XAUTHORITY and DISPLAY env vars - but it seems to need something more
[03:36] <that_weasel> blank, yea...
[03:36] <LjL> black: /msg nickserv register password
[03:36] <blank> *crying like a little kid*
[03:36] <blank> it's already registered
[03:36] <blank> nooooo
[03:36] <LjL> dooglus: "xhost +" in an X terminal, though i think that's a bit of a security risk
[03:36] <LjL> blank: happens ;(
[03:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> any of you guys use ipodder?
[03:36] <blank> who here uses kde instead of gnome
[03:36] <johnsie2> is there any way i can run an app full screen from the terminal?
[03:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> blank i used to.
[03:37] <LjL> black: me
[03:37] <blank> o
[03:37] <blank> does it run all right on ubuntu
[03:37] <LjL> blank: you know there's a #kubuntu channel, don't you?
[03:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> blank runs great.
[03:37] <Nitewalker> Toma-,  that website you gave says its not available :-(
[03:37] <LjL> blank: well, it works for me
[03:37] <_Dez> how do i make my wifi card get info from DCHP
[03:37] <Toma-> ...the one from !w32codecs?
[03:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> LjL strange to refer him to a different channel just because he uses a different window manager than the default.
[03:37] <blank> yes LjL, but,...nevermind
[03:37] <nuck> rain` thanks
[03:37] <Nitewalker> yes
[03:38] <azuron> hi i am installing SVN and Apache on Ubuntu, but i couldn't find the package "libapache2-svn", what's its new name now???
[03:38] <blank> in this picture ( http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=13854105624345452f5d23f&p=screen ), anyone know how to get those stats on the bottom left, what app that is?
[03:38] <LjL> BROKEN_LADDER: did i tell him "don't f*cking talk about KDE here", or do you think it was more like an information he might have foudn useful?
[03:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> yeah, maybe.
[03:38] <LjL> blank: kasbar perhaps
[03:38] <LjL> blank: i'm not sure tho
[03:39] <blank> kay thanks :) i'll search it
[03:39] <LjL> blank: no need you have it installed
[03:39] <blank> really?
[03:39] <blank> :D
[03:39] <blank> how I run it
[03:39] <LjL> blank: right click on your panel, add to panel, kasbar
[03:39] <Nitewalker> Toma-,  my bad its jst been my computer playing up lol it found it now
[03:39] <blank> ah yes
[03:39] <LjL> blank: right click on your panel, add to panel, panel, kasbar  <-- actually
[03:39] <Toma-> cool :)
[03:39] <johnsie2> is there any way i can run an app in full screen mode from the terminal?
[03:39] <Toma-> Nitewalker: you know how to install .deb files right?
[03:39] <Nitewalker> Toma-,  which one should i go for? they have a large selection of files
[03:39] <Toma-> what URL are u looking at?
[03:40] <Nitewalker> Toma-,  go for the package or the source?
[03:40] <Toma-> Nitewalker: package
[03:40] <blank> you know what app does the wheather in there?
[03:40] <LjL> blank: oh but wait a moment, that screenshot is running gnome... i thought it was about KDE
[03:40] <Toma-> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/breezy-extras/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[03:40] <blank> the wheater forecaster
[03:40] <Toma-> that one ^^
[03:40] <blank> lol nah LjL
[03:40] <LjL> blank: no, i was wondering myself
[03:40] <Nitewalker> Toma-,  the one from w32codecs
[03:40] <blank> i wub gnome
[03:40] <blank> so you got an idea/
[03:40] <blank> ?
[03:41] <LjL> hm no
[03:41] <derrickw> hey i have a question. i'm trying to set up an ftp server in ubuntu to host my music, and i wanted to create an account, "music", that has the ability to upload and download but not delete or overwrite files in its own home directory. is there a way to do this without logging in as root?
[03:41] <blank> how bout this one ( http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=91449175405429b51cd0b&p=screen ), the panels on the right side, if I could just get a name I'd search myself
[03:41] <Nitewalker> Toma-,  i have no clue on how to install .deb files ive only jst go linux three days ago lol
[03:41] <Toma-> Nitewalker: if you've got a dvd player in your PC, grab libdvdcss2 from that page too
[03:42] <Toma-> Nitewalker: open up a terminal and run "sudo dpkg -i w32" and
[03:42] <Toma-> oops
[03:42] <blank> I'm just amazed at all these screenshots and I wanna get my desktop to look like it
[03:42] <Toma-> Nitewalker: open up a terminal and type "sudo dpkg -i w32" and then hit tab then enter
[03:42] <LjL> blank: if i had a name i'd search it myself, 'cause it looks cool, but i don't
[03:42] <Nitewalker> Toma-,  im not that lucky to have a dvd player lol
[03:42] <blank> http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=26493984340556dfea183f&p=screen <--really nice, anyone here know what apps are the panels on the left and right?
[03:42] <Toma-> ok! :D
[03:43] <holycow> blank, those ar gdesklets in gnome
[03:43] <holycow> something else in kde
[03:43] <Nitewalker> what does the tab and enter do?
[03:43] <dooglus> LjL: I don't need to 'xhost +' because I've copied the XAUTHORITY variable...  what I did need to do was copy "SESSION_MANAGER" too.  It turns out it was working before, but very slowly, 'cos it was waiting for the connection to the session manager to time ot
[03:43] <dooglus> time out
[03:43] <perry753> hi. when will ubuntu have x86_64 support?
[03:43] <holycow> just little apps that sit on the desktop
[03:43] <holycow> mostly incredibly useless
[03:43] <perry753> im new to ubuntu
[03:43] <blank> holycow: yes, thanks, but I mean the...oh...I thought gdesklets was only the toolbar at the bottom
[03:43] <Toma-> blank: read the damn page and it tells you its gdesklets and also what desklets this person is using
[03:43] <holycow> i never understood why anyone would install something like that
[03:43] <LjL> dooglus: i see
[03:43] <derrickw> hey guys, please, could someone tell me if there is a way to change priveliges on a user's home folder without being logged in as root?
[03:43] <holycow> no dude
[03:43] <livinded> perry753: it already does
[03:43] <blank> :( sorry I thought gdesklets was only the toolbar :(
[03:43] <livinded> perry753: i'm running 5.10 on my amd64 right now
[03:44] <dooglus> derrickw: you use "sudo chmod g+w ~dude" and such like
[03:44] <perry753> livinded: is unbuntu good? i heard it's only good for new users.
[03:44] <speedyboydoped> hey hey pp;
[03:44] <speedyboydoped> hey hey
[03:44] <Toma-> Nitewalker: tab completes what you want to write. saves you typing out long file names
[03:44] <ogami1972> hi channel- now that i have reinstalled, i need to add my storage drive to fstab- can anyone point me towards a how-to?
[03:44] <dooglus> derrickw: if the user wants to change permissions on his own home he doesn't even need to use sudo
[03:44] <speedyboydoped> the Tango icon theme has been up to art.gnome.org
[03:44] <speedyboydoped> go and get it now
[03:44] <speedyboydoped> HOT HOT
[03:44] <Toma-> just type the first few letters then hit tab, same as in xchat with nicknames
[03:44] <derrickw> can a user deny himself priveliges?
[03:44] <livinded> perry753: well beign semi new myself its a nice distro if you don't mind bulk but i personally like gento's portage system better than apt
[03:44] <perry753> what do you guys think of Ubuntu? only good for the new linux users?
[03:44] <rain`> nuck: you can try these deb packages at your own risk: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=340749&postcount=4
[03:44] <blank> hearing that ubuntu is only good for new users makes me sad :(
[03:44] <derrickw> pretty - not being able to log in as root is annoying as hell
[03:45] <johnsie2> Is there any way I can set an app to be run in full screen mode?
[03:45] <derrickw> perry*
[03:45] <LjL> holycow: i'm not really into eye candy, but what's wrong with having weather and cpu load and stuff displayed in a nice way?
[03:45] <derrickw> haha sorry
[03:45] <perry753> livinded: i see, thanks for your opinion
[03:45] <livinded> if you want something that will just work though with little effort give it a try
[03:45] <ogami1972> join /ubuntuforums
[03:45] <LjL> blank: where di you hear that?
[03:45] <Nitewalker> Toma-, is it alright to download the file and save to disk so i can pass these files onto  my brother and would it make the process any different?
[03:45] <holycow> LjL, because its stupid?  What can i say, it's my definition of stupid.
[03:45] <blank> :$
[03:45] <silversurfer> that's true
[03:45] <holycow> and i can qualify the stupid
[03:45] <LjL> holycow: well, give me some reasons why it's stupid?
[03:45] <Toma-> Nitewalker: thats fine. just run the same comming
[03:45] <Toma-> errr
[03:45] <Toma-> command
[03:46] <holycow> sure its easy
[03:46] <perry753> livinded: yeah im actually looking for a very advanced and capable distro. i'm not the new linux user, RHCT & RHCE, i just have never actually used a Debian distro on my systems.
[03:46] <silversurfer> ubuntu was for new linux users
[03:46] <azuron> hi guys, i cannot find libapache2-svn, any kinds of help would be appreciated, thanks!
[03:46] <holycow> if your cpu is so wildly spiking in temperature from one minute to the next so as to justify having a fekin applet on the desktop monitoring it, you don't need an applet you need a new fekin computer
[03:46] <silversurfer> now pros are using it more and more
[03:46] <LjL> whoever ubuntu was for, i've been using debian for some years, and now i'm running ubuntu
[03:46] <blank> perry753: I may not be the one to tell you, but having a nice package system doesn't mean ubuntu/debian based distros are only for new linux users
[03:46] <silversurfer> I was on debian before
[03:46] <blank> it really helps out
[03:46] <holycow> if you need an applet to tell you what the weather is like outside of your window, your a fekin moron
[03:46] <holycow> see?
[03:46] <holycow> its stupid
[03:47] <silversurfer> I move tu ubuntu cause ubuntu owns debian nowadays
[03:47] <LjL> holycow: if you need a calculator when you have a piece of paper in front of you and a pen, it's stupid
[03:47] <holycow> it's cool and the 'cause i can factor' but its usefullness cannot be justified by an ameaba
[03:47] <silversurfer> it got very fast servers and blleding edje psackage
[03:47] <derrickw> okay, so how do i give myself priveliges to another user's home folder (to upload, overwrite, etc.)
[03:47] <perry753> Does Ubuntu really stand out that much? Is it one of those distro's where you can just do everything by clicking buttons?
[03:47] <Toma-> holycow: weather apps are cool. only small ones tho... also, why have a Cpu monitoring app that uses 40% of the cpu to do so anyway :D
[03:47] <nuck> rain` thanks but i was advised against using .deb packages over ubuntu... ill do some research will let you know if i find some solution
[03:47] <blank> lol holycow, I know what you mean, about the wheather thing, but I was just wondering, damn
[03:48] <DShepherd> holycow:  what if u want to know the temperure outside...?
[03:48] <LjL> derrickw: i'm afraid the answer to all you've asked is "you don't", but what do i know. you might have some success with SELinux perhaps?
[03:48] <DShepherd> holycow: u going to look out there fr that
[03:48] <holycow> hey i didn't tell anyone how to run their system :) i do reserve the right to be judgemental about how they run their system
[03:48] <johnsie2> I'm a farmer... my crops might get frosty :-)
[03:48] <blank> lol perry753, I'd say the easyiness lies in the package management
[03:48] <sum_41> hi
[03:49] <_Dez> where do i get the following packages ? imlib1/libpng10-0/libungif4g
[03:49] <kremlin> exit
[03:49] <johnsie2> I'm a school caretaker... should I put grit down this morning?
[03:49] <perry753> beh, i'd think i'd go back to Fedora
[03:49] <perry753> thanks for your opinions, really appreciated.
[03:49] <derrickw> Ljl - well it seems like there has to be a way. on the old ubuntu, i could log in as root, but i don't seem to be having as much luck in breezy badger
[03:49] <holycow> :)
[03:49] <holycow> DShepherd, if you don't know if its 'hot' or 'cold' outside, you have some serious problems
[03:49] <holycow> really
[03:49] <blank> debian or ubuntu...debian or ubuntu...debian or ubuntu *head explodes*
[03:49] <blank> ubuntu
[03:49] <blank> :D
[03:49] <holycow> *hmmm* there are these funny things falling out of the sky
[03:49] <holycow> i wonder what temperature they are
[03:49] <holycow> oh let me look at my applet on my desktop
[03:49] <holycow> ohhhhh ... so its RAINING OUTSIDE MY WINDOW and its 5C today
[03:49] <LjL> derrickw: you can't log in as root, but that's quite irrelevant, you can use sudo
[03:49] <holycow> yes that makes total sense
[03:49] <holycow> -_-
[03:50] <_Dez> where do i get the following packages ? imlib1/libpng10-0/libungif4g
[03:50] <brad_> is there something wrong with mutliverse or universe right now?  i uncommented the lines and now im getting errors like the server is down or something
[03:50] <blank> lol shut up already, I was just asking what app it was and now you guys are fighting
[03:50] <derrickw> ljl - yes but using sudo for everything is a bitch, and i used to be able to give myself access to other users' folders but logging in as root
[03:50] <DShepherd> holycow: not just hot.... but how hot
[03:50] <Toma-> holycow: alot of them have a forecast function too... t
[03:50] <blank> derrickw: you can activate the root account
[03:50] <blank> want the link to the wiki page?
[03:50] <LjL> holycow: well, my weather applet gives me the weather from some nearby airports. i know if it's going to rain in a few minutes, and i know i have to take an umbrella to go outside
[03:50] <derrickw> blank - yeah, if it will tell me how, it would be a big help
[03:50] <holycow> lol, you guys are anal
[03:51] <blank> derrickw: anything to keep a user :)
[03:51] <LjL> derrickw: what's wrong with typing "sudo -i"?
[03:51] <theintern> sudo -s ? =o
[03:51] <tryingsomething> ok who can tell me how to set a static ip with a router as primary dns?
[03:51] <_Dez> where do i get the following packages ? imlib1/libpng10-0/libungif4g
[03:51] <theintern> sudo -i even better
[03:51] <holycow> :)
[03:51] <blank> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root
[03:51] <tryingsomething> i know its something like sudo ifconfig eth0 *address* - but ive done that and it doesnt work
[03:52] <blank> tell me if it helps, derrickw
[03:52] <derrickw> i think it will, blank. thanks
[03:52] <blank> np buddy :)
[03:52] <blank> !ubotu!
[03:52] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[03:52] <LjL> holycow: if you don't *care* whether you have to take an umbrella to go out in the next X minutes, i can understand you. but stating that "i run my system badly" just cause i do, seems more than a bit ridiculous
[03:52] <blank> :( i cant pway wit ubotu :(
[03:53] <blank> man you guys, I feel guilty now :(
[03:53] <blank> ubuntu: the guts of debian, with the support of canonical
[03:53] <sum_41> hi
[03:53] <holycow> LjL, actually its not ridiculous, i have as much perrogative to think people running weather applets are retarded as you are thinking my opinion is ridiculous
[03:53] <blank> hello sum_41
[03:53] <LjL> derrickw: i strongly advise against activating the root account, based on many things i've read here. and i know the very same results as using a root account can be obtained by using sudo (and *not* harder than by using a root account). then, of course, do what you prfer
[03:53] <holycow> at the end of the day, its your box, do as you will
[03:53] <_Dez> how do i get this imlib1
[03:53] <_Dez> ?
[03:53] <LjL> holycow: ok. bye
[03:54] <blank> LjL: what difference is there from activating root on ubuntu than already having root on slackware or debian
[03:54] <blank> I'd like to know, cause if you cant use root right in ubuntu, I might switch to debian
[03:54] <blank> are there many things you cant do with sudo?
[03:54] <holycow> !root
[03:54] <ubotu> root is probably disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:54] <holycow> blank read that
[03:54] <LjL> blank: i can't really speak knowlingly, only from second sources... but those second sources tell me that ubuntu is *intended* to be run without a root account, and things may easily break if you activate one
[03:54] <_Dez> !repository
[03:55] <ubotu> Wish i knew, _Dez
[03:55] <holycow> there is a reason for a disabled root, its probably not a bad idea
[03:55] <LjL> blank: maybe it's all false rumor, but anyway, what in heaven is wrong with using sudo?
[03:55] <blank> nothing
[03:55] <Aven> hi, how do I login with ssh?
[03:55] <Xenguy> LjL: sorry, I haven't been following, but are you speaking about technical problems that can happen by activating the root account (giving it a password) ?
[03:55] <blank> I'm just saying, not activating it, will that impede my learning of linux?
[03:55] <Aven> using terminal
[03:55] <_Dez> ANyone KNow where i can get imlib1 lib png 10-0 libungif4g
[03:55] <blank> Xenguy: yep
[03:55] <holycow> blank, not really, there is no reason you shouldn't run debian tho, it will shed some perspective on the situation for you
[03:56] <johnsie2> Anyone know how to make a program run in full screen mode?
[03:56] <LjL> Xenguy: yeah. again, i haven't experienced this first-hand (and do not intend to), but read about this kind of problems. and, since i can do with sudo anything i could do with root, i'm definitely not going to try
[03:56] <z3r0x> !file libcrypt-dh-perl
[03:56] <Xenguy> LjL: I think I see what you are saying; I remain unconvinced about problems being caused by that though (maybe I just have to learn the hard way :-)
[03:56] <glick> excuse me, i have a book in html form, and i was wondering if there were any tools available that would convert it into a nice proper book into pdf or something ?
[03:56] <LjL> blank: no, it won't. just do "sudo -i" and it'll be just like a root login in every respect
[03:57] <johnsie2> what does the -i do?
[03:57] <holycow> johnsie2, that depends on the program.  if the program has been hardcoded not to run in fullscreen mode, you will haveto write code to allow it.  otherwise look up the man pages and help files for the program
[03:57] <theintern> sudo -i = su -
[03:57] <theintern> in theory
[03:57] <LjL> blank: but i don't even use "sudo -i" anyway. the command i most often (almost exclusively) run as root is aptitude, so i've just aliased "apt" to "sudo aptitude", and i can type "apt install something"
[03:57] <LjL> blank: when i need root for something else (rarely), then i just use sudo
[03:57] <johnsie2> thanks holycow
[03:57] <benplaut> anyone here use alltray?
[03:57] <Xenguy> johnsie2: -i invokes the root environment also
[03:57] <Aven> hi, how do I login with ssh? using login and password..
[03:57] <blank> oh okay :)
[03:57] <Aven> erm, and host..
[03:58] <Aven> using terminal
[03:58] <johnsie2> ok
[03:58] <Madpilot> glick: I think there are, but ask google - or ask on #ubuntu-doc, because some of those tools get used by the Doc Team...
[03:58] <blank> can ubuntu be for advanced users, or is it like linspire or xandros, where it's made easy for you
[03:58] <vvlaw> how to set the adsl auto logon in?
[03:58] <Xenguy> Aven: ssh -l uid host/domain
[03:58] <holycow> blank, ubuntu is just debian with gnome and some patches
[03:58] <holycow> its plain jane vanilla
[03:58] <glick> thanks Madpilot
[03:58] <holycow> i.e. its as advanced as you can get latest gnome/debian to be
[03:59] <LjL> blank: it's linux, dammit. it's HOPEFULLY made easy for you, but you can still do whatever you want. if you *want* the hard way, with *no* facilities at all, go build linux from scratch! :)
[03:59] <Aven> Xenguy: what's 'uid'?
[03:59] <holycow> secondly there is nothing really 'non advanced' about any of the distros you mentioned
[03:59] <Xenguy> Aven: userid/username
[03:59] <Aven> ah ok
[03:59] <Ep|phany> hi
[03:59] <holycow> they are all advanced in every way, that is to say they have all the capabilities those desktop environment and os variants allow
[03:59] <Madpilot> glick: Google for html2pdf, there's a site that'll PDF-ize webpages on the fly...
[03:59] <Ophiocus> where can i find troubleshooting info with dhcp3-server?
[03:59] <_Dez> ANyone KNow where i can get imlib1 lib png 10-0 libungif4g
[03:59] <Ep|phany> im new to linux and need some help
[03:59] <blank> :D thanks, I thought ubuntu was one of those 'easy transition' distros where everything is menus and stuff
[03:59] <holycow> plus some patches to make them seem windowish like
[03:59] <Xenguy> Aven: man ssh, it's very cool, and deeper than I've gone too
[04:00] <Aven> nice :)
[04:00] <Ep|phany> i installed something by using synaptic package manager but i can find it to run it
[04:00] <Madpilot> blank: as much as possible, it is. That's one of the things that's great about it.
[04:00] <Ep|phany> can anyone help
[04:00] <LjL> blank: no, it's one of those "easy transition" distros where you video card and stuff like that gets autorecognized without you spending a week getting crazy on it
[04:00] <Madpilot> Ep|phany: tell us what you installed?
[04:00] <blank> lol, cool :D
[04:00] <Ep|phany> directvnc
[04:00] <blank> so it's 'for noobs to experts', cool
[04:00] <LjL> blank: as far as menus are concerned, that's Gnome and KDE's problem (if it's a problem at all), not a specific distro's problem
[04:00] <holycow> blank, there are no such thing as 'easy transition' distros
[04:00] <holycow> that is a misnomer
[04:01] <blank> holycow: I ment things like, the ones where they make it look like windows
[04:01] <Ep|phany> madpilot any ideas
[04:01] <Xenguy> holycow: Ubu has conveniences shall we say? :)
[04:01] <holycow> the biggest things that differentiate distros is: patch set, package managers
[04:01] <Madpilot> Ep|phany: I've never used VNC, sorry...
[04:01] <LjL> blank: again, the only things i can think of to "make it look like windows" are in KDE and Gnome
[04:01] <Ep|phany> where do you think it installed though
[04:01] <holycow> everything else is minor and if you care you can hack any distro to resemble another
[04:01] <holycow> generally tho that is pointless
[04:02] <LjL> blank: to start with, my windows currently have EXACTLY the same widget layout (and similar graphics) as Windows. but that's KDE's default, not Ubuntu's default
[04:02] <blank> yeah I guess you're right
[04:02] <Madpilot> Ep|phany: in Synaptic, right click on the package and select Properties. One of the tabs there is Installed Files or something like that, it'll show you where every file in that package went
[04:02] <Ep|phany> it says its section is miscellanous - text but i dont know where to find that section
[04:02] <blank> I just wanted to know if it restricted you from anything
[04:02] <blank> nevermind
[04:02] <blank> i like it since it's like debian with support
[04:02] <holycow> yeah no distros can really restrict you
[04:02] <blank> I mean, company support
[04:02] <holycow> however
[04:02] <blank> haha
[04:02] <LathropWells> where do i change the text size for gnome glabally?
[04:02] <LjL> blank: try typing "sudo rm -r -f /", and you'll see it doesn't quite restrict you ;)
[04:02] <holycow> on the base level most distros have a package manager of some sort
[04:02] <LjL> blank: i mean, don't actually do that...
[04:02] <LathropWells> globaly
[04:02] <blank> lol
[04:03] <blank> I'm not that stupid :P
[04:03] <Madpilot> blank: the only restriction that comes to mind in Ubuntu is that the CUPS web interface is blocked off, but the Gnome Printer Manager has all of that functionality built in, I understand...
[04:03] <LathropWells> oops! - Hey!!! - lol
[04:03] <holycow> that is a component that is hard to 'rip out' and replace and therefore i classify as one of the big things that distinguish distros
[04:03] <Ophiocus> how can i see the error logs of a given app?
[04:03] <blank> I've tried many distros and ubuntu, I just fell in love with, but I wanted to know if it was more noobish than slackware or something
[04:03] <Xenguy> Ophiocus: logging is pretty good on *nix
[04:03] <nickrud> Madpilot, except, you can't name your printers with gnome-cups
[04:03] <blank> it's all right though
[04:03] <blank> :D
[04:03] <blank> I wub ubuntu
[04:03] <blank> and !ubotu!
[04:04] <blank> I gotta go now, c ya guys!
[04:04] <LjL> blank: it's probably considered "more noobish" by some, but then who cares? they can label me a newbie if they like
[04:04] <LjL> byes
[04:04] <LathropWells> Ubuntu is terrific
[04:04] <nickrud> set a basic resolution, a couple other things
[04:04] <blank> lol, now I know how to say my question
[04:04] <holycow> blank, ubuntus chief differentiation is that they freeze debian every 6 months and then polish it up with pure muscle and marks money
[04:04] <blank> 'does ubuntu's easability hide you from the real linux'
[04:04] <blank> yeah, that's what I like holycow :D
[04:04] <LjL> well, the answer, but you know by now, is no it doesn't
[04:04] <blank> that's cool :D
[04:04] <blank> thanks guys!
[04:04] <holycow> debian just doesn't have the resources, nor the social policy room to actually focus on the desktop and only 4 architectures
[04:05] <_Dez> apt-get is for Respositorys right?
[04:05] <LjL> debian is a big beast
[04:05] <Ophiocus> ok,  * Stopping DHCP server...                                               [fail] 
[04:05] <Ophiocus>  * Starting DHCP server...                                               [fail] 
[04:05] <LjL> _Dez: yes, though i suggest using aptitude instead
[04:05] <blank> LjL: how
[04:05] <Ophiocus> where can i look up what happened?
[04:05] <LjL> blank: it wasn't in a derogatory sense
[04:05] <blank> Enabling the root account
[04:05] <blank> Note: This is not recommended! It will break all the GUI admin tools
[04:05] <blank> To enable the root account (i.e. set a password) use:
[04:05] <blank> sudo passwd root
[04:05] <blank> Enter your existing password
[04:05] <blank> Enter password for root
[04:05] <blank> Confirm password for root
[04:05] <LjL> blank: as holycow said, basically
[04:05] <blank> taken from the wiki page
[04:06] <Xenguy> Ophiocus: /var/log ...
[04:06] <blank> so I guess that clears some things, right LjL >
[04:06] <LjL> don't paste here blank please
[04:06] <Xenguy> Ophiocus: messages  syslog
[04:06] <blank> srry :(
[04:06] <_Dez> LjL i need imlib1/libpng10-0/libungif4g but i dont know how to get them
[04:06] <Agrajag> wait
[04:06] <Agrajag> how does setting a root password break all the gui admin tools?
[04:06] <LjL> _dez: i suppose it's the gdk-imlib1 package
[04:06] <LjL> Agrajag: how should i know... but it's in the wiki :)
[04:06] <blank> basically what ticks me off, is when I have to move a file(s) from one place to another, and I wanna use nautilus, I have to type sudo nautilus, but I guess that'd be the sasme with other distros
[04:07] <Xenguy> Ophiocus: explore the log files, they're just ASCII files (sometimes .gz files, so you need either 'less' or 'zless' to view the file contents)
[04:07] <_Dez> ljl No install canidate
[04:07] <holycow> blank, well you are copying files from one users dir to another
[04:07] <LjL> blank: well, you'd have to login as root or something, but it would basically be the same amount of hassle
[04:07] <chris_> hi i used dvd::rip to rip a dvd... it created a directory with all the .vob files.. what do i need to do to burn it to dvdr?
[04:07] <holycow> of course you need sudo
[04:07] <blank> i feel so anxious to switch over to linux (ubuntu) completely, but I cant cause I dont have enough space and I still need windows for some things (mainly programming)
[04:08] <Madpilot> blank: for moving stuff into/out of the root area, I use the command line still - it's easier than re-launching Naut. in sudo...
[04:08] <holycow> this isn't windows where everything everywhere is writeable by default
[04:08] <witless> i'd like to hear the answer to chris_'s question too
[04:08] <LjL> blank: that's just the way Linux work: you don't (and must not) stay in root all the time, which means that you must take the time to *go* into root (or sudo, in Ubuntu's case) when you actually need it
[04:08] <holycow> blank, give it time, it's fine to use win, or mac or whatever
[04:08] <blank> yep, I understand, I've learned to get used to it
[04:08] <LjL> _Dez: try libgdk-imlib1
[04:08] <blank> yeah I love windows since I know it's in and outs, but I really love ubuntu, it's something new
[04:08] <holycow> actually you've learned how to operate an os safely
[04:08] <holycow> welcome to computing 101 dude :)
[04:08] <LathropWells> chris - mencoder ???
[04:08] <chris_> do tell
[04:09] <holycow> forget everythign you learned on windows ... it's both wrong and dangerous
[04:09] <_Dez> still didnt ljl brb
[04:09] <blank> lol
[04:09] <blank> I'll just make a partition in my brain
[04:09] <blank> one for windows and one for linux
[04:09] <LjL> blank: use AmigaOS
[04:09] <blank> What's that LjL
[04:09] <LjL> tsk tsk... it's the best OS in the world :P
[04:09] <RedRose> Can I Use Breezy's Repository In Hoary?
[04:09] <RedRose> what's the best OS?
[04:10] <LathropWells> blank - but what if you bootloader fails you?
[04:10] <RedRose> ubuntu?
[04:10] <LjL> RedRose: AmigaOS
[04:10] <blank> hmm...that's true
[04:10] <blank> I'll have boot floppies
[04:10] <blank> dont worry
[04:10] <Agrajag> RedRose: You can change your repositories to breezy and then run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade to breezy from hoary
[04:10] <LjL> blank: seriously, Amiga was/is a computer that used to be really cool (at least IMHO)
[04:10] <blank> wth, amigaos runs windows apps?
[04:10] <LjL> hmm no it doesn't
[04:10] <LjL> not with an emulator at least
[04:10] <LjL> without
[04:11] <blank> nvm that was webos, whatever that is
[04:11] <rixth> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libnecko.so: undefined symbol: _Z15NS_ProxyReleaseP14nsIEventTargetP11nsISupportsi
[04:11] <Ron_o> The best linux OS is the one that works for you.
[04:11] <rixth> When I try and start Firefox.
[04:11] <blank> no i wub cozy ubuntu
[04:11] <RedRose> ok, ty
[04:11] <Ron_o> This isn't Windows Vs. mac.
[04:11] <henriquemaia> Hello, I'm trying to use cron (as normal user) on my ubuntu, but it looks like it is not working. Anyone knows something about this?
[04:11] <blank> it runs my games fine, and accepts my ati card
[04:11] <blank> hey guys, i hope you keep coming here, I have to go! later!
[04:11] <holycow> RedRose, just one warning if you are upgrading from hoare: please uninstall openoffice.org or openoffice.org2
[04:11] <holycow> that hoses the upgrade on a good number of machines
[04:11] <LjL> no, amigaos is a system that was created in 1985, and that had multitasking and windowing in 1985... the last version is 4.0, from like 2003-2004, but it sucks
[04:11] <holycow> you can install oo.org after upgrade of course
[04:11] <RedRose> Agrajag:will the upgrade take a while?
[04:12] <LjL> Ron_o: amigaos isn't QUITE linux
[04:12] <brad_> LjL, 4.0 doesnt suck
[04:12] <Agrajag> RedRose: depends on your internet connection
[04:12] <Ron_o> what does OO do to the upgrade?
[04:12] <holycow> it stops it half way
[04:12] <RedRose> BroadBand
[04:12] <LjL> brad_: well, that's my opinion. it sucks compared to most modern operating system. let's not get into this, tho
[04:12] <Xenguy> RedRose: hit the highway :-)
[04:12] <holycow> and reduces apt to pulp ... meaning that you wont be able to remove oo.org half way with apt, you will haveto use aptitude
[04:13] <Xenguy> heh - not that highway
[04:13] <holycow> if you are lucky aptitude got upgraded and you can properly remove ithalf way before with proceding with the upgrade
[04:13] <Ron_o> hehe.. someone was complaining in here how that happened holycow
[04:13] <holycow> i had it happen to 6 boxes
[04:13] <holycow> lots of people online posted same
[04:13] <Ron_o> This is why I like to stay behind the times.
[04:14] <La_PaRCa> um... anyone here that can help me with a java3d problem?
[04:14] <Ron_o> it just makes sense in this complicated computer world of ours.
[04:14] <Xenguy> Ron_o: the trailing edge - ahhh :-)
[04:14] <Ron_o> lol.. yah..
[04:14] <LjL> goina sleep, night
[04:14] <Ron_o> night LjL
[04:16] <Nitewalker> can anyone give me the command to load up w32codecs im using the package one and not the source\
[04:16] <LathropWells> sudo dpkg -i <codec.deb>
[04:18] <Nitewalker> LathropWells,  that command is done the the terminal window and where u have <codec.deb> do i have to put the file name?
[04:18] <Xenguy> Nitewalker: nod
[04:19] <INTI_ARGENTINA> hello everybodyes
[04:19] <_Dez> where do i get libimlib2
[04:19] <subopt> Does the Ubuntu live CD have any way of saving a user's ~home to a flash drive?
[04:20] <nybble> i am getting the ubuntu logo tatooed on my wrists.
[04:20] <Agrajag> _Dez: from apt, just like everything else
[04:20] <_Dez> Agrajag i dont know the package name
[04:20] <_jason> nybble, that's dedication
[04:20] <Agrajag> uh
[04:20] <Agrajag> you just said
[04:20] <Agrajag> it
[04:21] <nybble> damn straight
[04:21] <_Dez> when i do libimlib2 it says Package libimlib2 has no installtion candidate
[04:21] <Agrajag> _Dez: it's in main
[04:21] <Agrajag> I'm looking at it right now
[04:22] <nybble> brb
[04:22] <MagicFab> Has anyone watched Revolution OS here ?
[04:22] <henriquemaia> Hello, I'm trying to use cron (as normal user) on my ubuntu, but it looks like it is not working. Anyone knows something about this?
[04:22] <_Dez> Agrajag im a newb can you explain :main:
[04:23] <Agrajag> it's in the main repository, unless your sources.list is completely ruined it should be there
[04:23] <MagicFab> Would you think it's a good tool to introduce some people to the history and origins of OSS ?
[04:24] <Nitewalker> Xenguy,  if i want to do that i would type this then sudo dpkg -i <w32codecs_.20050412-0.0_i386deb>? thats the file im downloading?
[04:24] <Madpilot> Nitewalker: leave the <> off, and you'll be fine
[04:25] <dtrostis> Hello,I have a problem. I was able to share my internet connection with my windows machine but today for some reason I wasn't able to do it. Any ideas?
[04:25] <_Dez> yay thx Agrajag
[04:25] <Nitewalker> Madpilot,  okay thanks for that i want to get it right the first time lol
[04:25] <nuck> its chmod a+x filename.sh to make a shell script executable right?
[04:26] <MagicFab> dtrostis: off topic ?
[04:26] <dtrostis> why off topic?
[04:26] <MagicFab> dtrostis: how is that problem related to U. ?
[04:26] <Xenguy> Nitewalker: I thought you already had the .deb file downloaded, am I wrong?
[04:26] <benplaut> dtrostis: have you tried simply rebooting?
[04:26] <benplaut> fixes 90% of problems :)
[04:27] <dtrostis> What do you mean? I was able to share my internet connection and now I can't
[04:27] <_Dez> is .deb files like RAR files?
[04:27] <speedyboydoped> http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/1150
[04:27] <benplaut> ubuntu: enjoying Ubuntu LiveCD?
[04:27] <speedyboydoped> http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/1150
[04:27] <dtrostis> Rebooting linux? I though that you never have to reboot Linux :)
[04:27] <Xenguy> _Dez: not exactly, but it is an archive
[04:27] <Madpilot> _Dez: sort of, yeah, but they're configured for installation on Debian systems...
[04:27] <speedyboydoped> http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/1150
[04:27] <INTI_ARGENTINA> haaaaaaaaaa
[04:27] <Ron_o> dtrostis, you probably don't in command line mode.
[04:28] <caonex> can someone tell me why i cant remove linux-restricted-modules without removing linux-amd64?
[04:28] <caonex> the kernel?
[04:28] <dtrostis> I'll give a try woth rebooting my linux box, but it's kind of dissapointing
[04:29] <Nitewalker> Xenguy,  nope i jst wanted to make sure i had the command jst incase i forget what it is before my download has finished and i jst started the download now lol i was still doing some updates thru synaptic for xine :D
[04:29] <keiron> hello
[04:29] <Xenguy> Nitewalker: K
[04:30] <keiron> can anyone point me in the direction of accessing a windows network through ubuntu?
[04:30] <foobar> keiron: is it wireless?
[04:30] <Niomi> keiron, find more info on samba
[04:30] <Xenguy> keiron: samba is your friend
[04:30] <keiron> foobar: no, it's over ethernet
[04:30] <keiron> ok
[04:30] <brad_> haha!  the FOX news tonight picked up the Sony rootkit story
[04:30] <keiron> ill check out samba :)
[04:30] <brad_> at least here in socal
[04:30] <MagicFab> !samba
[04:30] <ubotu> I heard samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[04:30] <psusi> I'm looking for an expert on grub... this is my first time using it and I'm trying to get it to work with my hardware fakeraid with these instructions:
[04:30] <Niomi> oooh did they, brad! i'll switch
[04:30] <ICE> anyone have any difficulty installing ubuntu ?
[04:30] <psusi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto
[04:30] <psusi> psusi only grub seems to be getting confuse
[04:30] <foobar> no way, LOL
[04:30] <psusi> only grub seems to be getting confused between the partition and the disk itself
[04:31] <ICE> I get a freeze screen when booting up to gnome
[04:31] <Nitewalker> Xenguy,  since ive finished downloading the xine updates how do i get to use xine since it hasnt loaded up a program for me to use?
[04:31] <ICE> just a bunch of pixels
[04:31] <ICE> anyone  have this problem
[04:31] <MagicFab> ICE: you may have video wrongly configured
[04:31] <Xenguy> Nitewalker: you find the executable/bin file - try typing xine
[04:32] <Madpilot> Nitewalker: totem-xine will just seamlessly replace the version of Totem you were already running - just start Totem like you used to
[04:32] <MagicFab> ice:
[04:32] <Niomi> please help: every time i type something into the CLI i get, "timestamp too far in the future" and my clock is set wrong, but ajust the clock to the right time doesn't help and it doesn't always ajust consistantly.
[04:32] <ICE> yea
[04:32] <ICE> magic
[04:32] <MagicFab> can you get to CLI using CTRL ALT F1 ?
[04:32] <ICE> after the modules load you mean
[04:32] <ICE> I get the splash screen
[04:32] <ICE> and thats it
[04:32] <MagicFab> Niomi: perhaps your BIOS clock battery is dead (old system ?)
[04:32] <Nitewalker> Madpilot,  will it say totem-xine on the program once its loaded up?
[04:33] <GhostFreeman> How do I check to see what version of Perl i am running?
[04:33] <ICE> know what I'm talk ing about
[04:33] <MagicFab> Niomi: or try setting up automatic time + date updates using NTP (by clicking on the tim & date on your status bar)
[04:33] <medgno> GhostFreeman, perl --version
[04:33] <Niomi> MagicFab, it's a new system, but a laptop (does that make a difference?)
[04:33] <Xenguy> GhostFreeman: or dpkg -l perl
[04:33] <GhostFreeman> thanks
[04:33] <MagicFab> ICE: how far do you get
[04:34] <MagicFab> Niomi: well, BIOS battery problem ruled out
[04:34] <ICE> to the splash screen loading the modules
[04:34] <caonex> can someone tell me why i cant remove linux-restricted-modules without removing linux-amd64?
[04:34] <MagicFab> Niomi: what exact command(s) provoke the error(s)
[04:34] <henriquemaia> Hello, I'm trying to use cron (as normal user) on my ubuntu, but it looks like it is not working. Anyone knows something about this?
[04:34] <Madpilot> Nitewalker: I don't think so... let me check
[04:35] <MagicFab> ICE: what is the last output you get
[04:35] <Xenguy> henriquemaia: crontab -l and crontab -e
[04:35] <Madpilot> Nitewalker: no, it just says Totem Movie Player or whatever...
[04:35] <henriquemaia> Thanks, but the problem is that it looks my user crontab isnt working, Xenguy
[04:36] <ICE> qc -> flags & ATA_QCFLAG_ACTIVE, drivers/scsi/libata-CORE.C,ata_qc_complete,line=3082
[04:36] <MagicFab> I have a question: what is the "safe mode" equivalent option in Grub called ?
[04:36] <ICE> thats the error I'm getting
[04:36] <ICE> now
[04:36] <Niomi> MagicFab, i've tried to apt-get and and launch synaptec. synaptec won't launch from the GUI either, neither will synaptic
[04:36] <ICE> wtf
[04:36] <Xenguy> henriquemaia: I guess you could paste it (not here tho)
[04:36] <psusi> MagicFab, single user mode?
[04:36] <Niomi> MagicFab, err, neither will adept, rather
[04:36] <henriquemaia>  I schedule the command and nothing happens.
[04:36] <Nitewalker> Madpilot,  okay thanks for that i jst wondered cos all i used was the synaptic to do some updates when i said find xine-ui
[04:37] <Xenguy> henriquemaia: most likely a syntax error
[04:37] <MagicFab> psusi: no.. when you invoke GRUB at startup, you can boot from the regular kernel or... what is it called...
[04:37] <ICE> damn it
[04:37] <ICE> yep got pixels agin
[04:37] <ICE> again
[04:38] <MagicFab> Niomi: synaptec is not an application (that I know of)
[04:38] <MagicFab> Niomi: You're looking to start synaptic
[04:38] <MagicFab> Niomi: but you need to be su (superuser) to do that
[04:38] <MagicFab> Niomi: from command line, do "sudo synaptic"
[04:38] <MagicFab> ICE: pixel to me indicate that your video is not config'ed correctly
[04:38] <Niomi> MagicFab, aye, I used sudo
[04:39] <jeff_> hey guys
[04:39] <MagicFab> ICE: do you know how to change the config manually ?
[04:39] <ICE> yeah by getting into a promp
[04:39] <jeff_> does anyone know of a wlan tutorial for breezy?
[04:39] <ICE> but having a hard time getting into one
[04:39] <ICE> alright I can login now
[04:40] <MagicFab> when the pixels appear - can you get to a text screen using CTRL-ALT-F1 ?
[04:40] <ICE> yeah I got it
[04:40] <psusi> MagicFab, regular kernel?
[04:40] <ICE> what config do I need to do
[04:40] <jeff_> anybody?
[04:40] <ICE> now
[04:40] <MagicFab> ICE: once logged in, sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:41] <dooglus> could someone help me with the 'iptables' command please?
[04:41] <speedyboydoped> http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/1150
[04:41] <MagicFab> psusi: at boot time, in grub, there's several options... which are... ?
[04:41] <ICE> k one sec
[04:41] <_tester_> anybody know the default root (sudo) password for breezer badger / ubuntu 5.1 ????
[04:41] <dooglus> I have a 'dummy0' network interface pretending to be a router.  I want to forward incoming connections to the dummy subnet
[04:41] <DShepherd> _tester_: yes yours
[04:42] <dooglus> I'm doing "sudo /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 2717 -i eth0 -j DNAT --to 10.254.252.10:2717" but it only works about 1 time in 10...  what gives?
[04:42] <_tester_> DShepherd      seriously   'yours'   without the quotes?
[04:42] <DShepherd> lol
[04:42] <MagicFab> ICE: In the Device section (if I remember well) look for "Driver" and tell me what it is
[04:42] <ICE> command not found
[04:42] <DShepherd> _tester_: no..I meant your password
[04:42] <MagicFab> _tester_: it's the same as the first user you create
[04:42] <_tester_> i only have a passwd for an ordinary user
[04:43] <_tester_> it didnt work for root :(
[04:43] <Madpilot> !tell _tester_ about sudo
[04:43] <dtrostis> hey guys, I'm back. After I reboot I still not getting to share the internet connection with my windows machine. What I suspect is that Synaptic did an update of Ubuntu and something got screwed up.
[04:43] <dooglus> _tester_: that's right.  'sudo' uses your password, not root's
[04:43] <MagicFab> ICE: which command
[04:43] <Madpilot> _tester_: read the URL that ubotu just sent you. Ubuntu uses sudo, not root, by default
[04:43] <bettong_BOFH> i need an mp3 editing app that can edit large mp3 files and remove what i don't want to end up with a finished version
[04:43] <ICE> sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:43] <MagicFab> dtrostis: the way you asked about it the first time it seemed as you were sharing the connection FROM Windows
[04:43] <dooglus> _tester_: the default root password is locked ("passwd -l").  sudo wants your own password
[04:43] <ICE> no such command
[04:44] <bettong_BOFH> i need to get rid of the commercails from streamripper
[04:44] <dtrostis> no I have my linux connected to the internet
[04:44] <MagicFab> ICE: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:44] <dtrostis> Sorry for the misunderstanding
[04:44] <MagicFab> ICE: sudo makes you su (superuser) for one command, but you have to enter the command (nano in this case)
[04:45] <ICE> oh yeah no shit
[04:45] <ICE> my bad
[04:45] <MagicFab> dtrostis: how did you initially configure network sharing ?
[04:45] <johny5> Hello, I want to move my /home directory to a new partition, but I want to keep all of my existing users.  I copied the home directorys to the partition and chowned them to the appropriate users, but when I try to mount the partition as /home, I can't log on with any users.
[04:45] <johny5> Anyone help?
[04:45] <MagicFab> dtrostis:  (which steps or tool(s) )
[04:45] <jesse_> jesse_:
[04:45] <ICE> ok I'm in the conf file now
[04:45] <ICE> what do I need to change
[04:46] <dtrostis_> Thru the system ---> Administration ---> Networking
[04:46] <dtrostis_> and then configured manually the eth01
[04:46] <MagicFab> ICE: look for a line that starts with "Driver". You can use the "W" key to do a keyword search
[04:47] <ICE> using vi
[04:47] <ICE> but ok
[04:47] <MagicFab> dtrostis: Go there and de-activate it. Logout, re-login, re-activate it. Not very elegant but following instinct.
[04:47] <dtrostis> I can try that
[04:47] <ICE> k driver "kbd"
[04:47] <keiron> man
[04:47] <MagicFab> dtrostis: I am not sure if restarting only the notworking services via CLI owuld be enough and since I don't know the other services involved in net sharing, that's why I tell you to login again
[04:48] <MagicFab> ICE: the next one
[04:48] <keiron> if gnome had sticky side support for their windows I would use it instead of kde
[04:48] <MagicFab> ICE: should be in "Device" section
[04:48] <ICE> you mean generic monitor
[04:48] <MagicFab> robitaille: ;)
[04:48] <MagicFab> ICE: yes
[04:48] <_Dez> ubuntu is great :)
[04:48] <i3dmaster> today's  dapper upgrade got mplayer removed..
[04:49] <ICE> k what now
[04:49] <ICE> fab
[04:49] <ICE> change to what
[04:49] <MagicFab> ICE: what is the "Driver" value
[04:49] <MagicFab> _Dez: why is that ?
[04:50] <ICE> magic going to pm you
[04:50] <MagicFab> ICE: sure
[04:50] <_Dez> MagicFab not sure but its working fine for me so far :)
[04:50] <Epix> One reason i love linux, the lack of spyware (my windows box is so infected its not funny)...
[04:50] <dtrostis_> magic: that didn't work either
[04:50] <FlyingSquirrel32> I just got a LaserJet 6L given to me, but it isn't automatically detected in add printers.
[04:50] <MagicFab> _Dez: anything cool experience to share ? :)
[04:51] <Ron_o> epix, you can do things about that.
[04:51] <FlyingSquirrel32> the parralel port also doesn't show up in the list of ports.
[04:51] <Ron_o> Have you tried Search and Destroy?
[04:51] <_Dez> MagicFab last night i boned a milf :P
[04:51] <ICE> you get it fab
[04:51] <MagicFab> dtrostis_: let me check the wiki for that
[04:51] <MagicFab> !netsharing
[04:51] <ubotu> Not a clue, MagicFab
[04:51] <ICE> turn off your spam
[04:51] <Epix> I mean, something installed a fake spyware remover which made it look like windows was warning me about spyware, but of course, it was trying to sell me some stupid program.
[04:51] <Ron_o> I have no spyware at all.
[04:51] <robitaille> Hi MagicFab
[04:51] <Epix> Ron_o: yep.
[04:51] <dtrostis_> That's what I'm doing
[04:51] <_tester_> thanks everybody !!!
[04:51] <Ron_o> I don't install crappy software, either.
[04:52] <squidbullets> nalioth thank you for the link going off-topic jubuntu
[04:52] <ICE> magicfab ?
[04:52] <Ron_o> I d/l from Snapfiles or I check online before I install it to see if it's spyware or not.
[04:52] <MagicFab> dtrostis_: can you check this ? :
[04:52] <hlt_> someone had problems mounting sata drives after upgrading to 2.6.14 ?
[04:52] <MagicFab> !netsharing
[04:52] <ubotu> it has been said that netsharing is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/hardware/InternetConectionSharing?highlight=%28sharing%29
[04:52] <nalioth> squidbullets: so where are you now?
[04:52] <MagicFab> ICE: yes
[04:52] <MagicFab> ICE: sorry, multitasking here
[04:52] <ICE> np
[04:52] <ICE> wife on my ass to get off
[04:52] <Epix> Ron_o: snapfiles?
[04:53] <ICE> lol
[04:53] <Epix> http://www.cash-coupon.com/normal/yyy65.html dont go there. i just had to :P
[04:53] <squidbullets> nalioth, simultaneously here with #off-topic jubuntu
[04:53] <MagicFab> robitaille: I couldn't make it to the CC anyways!
[04:53] <MagicFab> ICE: so what was the value for "Driver" ?
[04:53] <FlyingSquirrel32> nalioth: I know you're a real expert, could you help me install a parallel DeskJet 6L?
[04:53] <ICE> so section monitor or section screen
[04:54] <hlt_> someone can help with a mount problem ?
[04:54] <Ron_o> epix, www.snapfiles.com
[04:54] <nalioth> FlyingSquirrel32: "man cups" or linuxprinting.org
[04:54] <dtrostis_> Check what magic?
[04:54] <MagicFab> dtrostis_: I sent a link
[04:54] <hlt_> it says already mounted
[04:54] <MagicFab> dtrostis_: here it is again
[04:54] <ICE> mount /dev/?
[04:54] <MagicFab> !netsharing
[04:54] <ubotu> it has been said that netsharing is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/hardware/InternetConectionSharing?highlight=%28sharing%29
[04:54] <hlt_> but there's nothing in the folder
[04:54] <hlt_> sda1
[04:54] <hlt_> on the old kernel it works fine
[04:54] <ICE> for install or live
[04:54] <ICE> cd
[04:55] <hlt_> install
[04:55] <ICE> hmm
[04:55] <nalioth> !enter
[04:55] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:55] <MagicFab> dtrostis_: it's information on how to share Internet connection - review it and perhaps you'll find what's wrong
[04:55] <ICE> unmount and mount again
[04:55] <hlt_> i used the .config from the old kernel
[04:55] <ICE> could spelled wrong
[04:55] <Ep|phany> anyone know what i can use to unrar something?
[04:55] <ICE> magic
[04:55] <hlt_> ( halt - ~ )% mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/media/
[04:55] <hlt_> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /mnt/media/ busy
[04:55] <hlt_> ( halt - ~ )% umount /dev//sda1
[04:55] <hlt_> umount: /dev//sda1: not mounted
[04:55] <robitaille> MagicFab,  yeah, I saw that when I looked at the wiki page afterward.   There is one every 2 weeks, so I'm sure you will get to one at one point
[04:56] <squidbullets> nalioth it did not take soory i misinformed you it is #off-topic
[04:56] <jah_raztah> which is better? gdesklets or adesklets?
[04:56] <nalioth> squidbullets: type /j #kubuntu-offtopic please
[04:56] <MagicFab> ICE: let's go priovate, it flies too fast here
[04:56] <bimberi> Ep|phany: unrar-free (universe) or unrar-nonfree (multiverse)
[04:56] <nalioth> jah_raztah: personal preference, and you forgot 'superkaramba'
[04:56] <jah_raztah> i wanted to mention in terms of ram usage and stability
[04:57] <_Dez> anyone know where i can get XFree86
[04:57] <_Dez> NOT Xorg
[04:57] <Ep|phany> hi im sorry i didnt see if anyone replied
[04:57] <Ep|phany> does anyone know what unrar tool i can use?
[04:57] <thechitowncubs> _Dez, why on earth?
[04:57] <bimberi> Ep|phany: unrar-free (universe) or unrar-nonfree (multiverse)
[04:57] <Ep|phany> unrar-free isnt working for me
[04:58] <MagicFab> Ep|phany: have you tried looking for "rar" in synpatic ?
[04:58] <Ep|phany> and i dont have money for the other one
[04:58] <Ep|phany> yea
[04:58] <MagicFab> (synaptic)
[04:58] <jah_raztah> gdesklets vs adesklets in terms of low resources usage and stability
[04:58] <Ophiocus> am in the middle of http://www.aboutdebian.com/proxy.htm and i have put the .sh file in the correct directory, i can gedit it but when i run it the shell returns sudo: /etc/init.d/proxy.sh: command not found
[04:58] <Ophiocus>  , any ideas why?
[04:58] <Ep|phany> gives me a bunch of non related stuff
[04:58] <_Dez> thechitowncubs Xorg doesnt work for my Resolution
[04:58] <MagicFab> Ophiocus: wrong permissions
[04:58] <_Dez> i ALREADY tired the Wiki
[04:58] <MagicFab> Ophiocus: chmod 755 whatever.sh
[04:58] <_Dez> that didnt work
[04:58] <hlt_> MagicFab: have you ever seen this problem with sata drives? mounting problem..
[04:59] <_Dez> and i KNOW Xfree works
[04:59] <keiron> i have heard a lot of bad things about the amd64 release of ubuntu 5.10. should this worry me? should i stick to the i386 release?
[04:59] <thechitowncubs> _Dez, why don't you just add your resolution?
[04:59] <Ep|phany> anyone else?
[04:59] <MagicFab> Ophiocus: then use ./whatever.sh to run it ?
[04:59] <Ophiocus> arf, lazy me, thanks
[04:59] <ekimus> anybody happens to know how to dynamically downcast in java? (like from Object to String based on the runtime type of an object)
[04:59] <MagicFab> hlt_: not familiar with that
[04:59] <MagicFab> !sata
[04:59] <ubotu> MagicFab: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:59] <bimberi> Ep|phany: huh? does unrar-nonfree require money?
[04:59] <error000> how can i restart the usb device?
[04:59] <Ep|phany> i cant find nonfree
[04:59] <nalioth> keiron: for maximum usability, stay with an x86 arch
[04:59] <MagicFab> Ep|phany: non-free refers to freedom, not money ;)
[04:59] <Ep|phany> i can only find free
[04:59] <ekimus> bimberi: no, it's just not free (as in free source)
[04:59] <_Dez> thechitowncubs when i add my Res it doesnt work
[04:59] <jesse_> jesse_:
[04:59] <Ep|phany> unrar-free only shows up for me
[04:59] <nalioth> Ep|phany: enable universe and multiverse repositories
[05:00] <ekimus> nonfree is in uni or multiverse
[05:00] <keiron> nalioth: ok then
[05:00] <raghu> error000: mount/unmount
[05:00] <thechitowncubs> _Dez, what is your resolution
[05:00] <MagicFab> an exanmple, Acrobat Reader is not "free" , it's closed, prprietary software
[05:00] <_Dez> 1024x600
[05:00] <ICE> getting pm magic
[05:00] <MagicFab> !universe
[05:00] <Ep|phany> where would i find non-free
[05:00] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[05:00] <ICE> wife going to kill me
[05:00] <Ep|phany> where would i find non-free?
[05:00] <ICE> lol
[05:00] <MagicFab> !repositories
[05:00] <ubotu> How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example soruces.list
[05:00] <nalioth> Ep|phany: please dont repeat
[05:00] <Ep|phany> sorry
[05:00] <bimberi> Ep|phany: see that link - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:00] <Ep|phany> i didnt notice i did it twice
[05:00] <amittp_> Hi, Does anyone know if there is any sftp GUI ? I found nautilus does it, but I can open files only in read-only mode
[05:01] <bimberi> ekimus: thanks, i know
[05:01] <_Dez> Will someone just tell me were to get XFree
[05:01] <MagicFab> Ep|phany: once you've activated universe and multiverse repos, re-search for rar
[05:01] <litage> i booted using the latest ubuntu live cd. lspci didn't recognize my ide controller, so i loaded the ahci kernel module. however, the ide controller still isn't recognized. what can i do?
[05:02] <MagicFab> amittp_: gftp I believe, very similar to WinSCP
[05:02] <Xenguy> amittp_: gftp does that I believe, tho I find the interface a bit clunky (it works tho)
[05:02] <ICE> magic
[05:02] <ICE> help
[05:02] <ICE> lol
[05:02] <nalioth> _Dez: while waiting in here, i'm sure if you asked uncle google "xfree86 homepage" he'd tell you
[05:02] <MagicFab> ICE: I am writing to you in private - do you see thaht ???
[05:02] <amittp_> MagicFab, Xenguy  ty :)
[05:02] <Xenguy> amittp_: yw
[05:02] <ICE> I don't see anything
[05:03] <nagual> What is a good vcd creator with a gui for ubuntu 5.10
[05:03] <nalioth> MagicFab: ICE cant msg you back, he's not registered
[05:03] <dooglus> is there a channel here where people might know about NAT and iptables?
[05:03] <raghu> dooglus, #iptables
[05:03] <tryingsomething> maybe #nat&iptables?
[05:03] <Xenguy> dooglus: I use shorewall -- done :-)
[05:03] <dooglus> raghu: thanks
[05:03] <bimberi> nagual: k3b
[05:04] <nagual> I can't use that in gnome huh
[05:04] <MagicFab> ok ICE, let me know what the value of "driver' is in the "Device" section
[05:04] <anathema_> hey got a problem...X only allows me to pick 60hz for my refresh...anyone know how to add 75 hz
[05:04] <anathema_> ?
[05:04] <dooglus> Xenguy: does shorewall allow you to route packets from one subnet to another for a particular port?
[05:04] <server_newbie> Here is one for you guys !! I want to find out what ports I can use thru my company fire wall. I need something to send out like nmap and something to view on ubuntu what pings get thru. How do I do this ?
[05:04] <raghu> dooglus, yes
[05:04] <MagicFab> anathema_: reconfigure your video
[05:04] <dooglus> raghu: how do you set that up?
[05:04] <Xenguy> dooglus: I have no idea - it has advanced features - and also good documentation :-)
[05:04] <anathema_> reconfigure?
[05:05] <raghu> dooglus, apt-get install shorewall
[05:05] <ICE> "nv"
[05:05] <bimberi> nagual: you can, it just brings in a lot of kde libraries when you install it
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> server_newbie,  try a port scannign web site like grc.com
[05:05] <raghu> dooglus, shoreline.net
[05:05] <anathema_> MagicFab:  what do you mean
[05:05] <MagicFab> anathema_: from command line - sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf - the first few lines tell you how to restart the config script which will let you specify refresh rates
[05:05] <anathema_> cant i just add it in xorg.conf somehow
[05:05] <Xenguy> anathema_: dpkg-reconfigure packagename
[05:05] <MagicFab> anathema_: yeah you can also do that
[05:05] <raghu> dooglus, www.shorewall.net
[05:06] <MagicFab> I believe you'll need to have _ranges_ of frequencies, though
[05:06] <Ophiocus> if i have an ethernet connection (eth1) to a dsl modem , shouldnt i change EXTIP="`/sbin/ifconfig ppp0 | grep 'inet addr' | awk '{print $2}' | sed -e 's/.*://'`"         for         EXTIP="`/sbin/ifconfig eth1 | grep 'inet addr' | awk '{print $2}' | sed -e 's/.*://'`"   ?
[05:06] <server_newbie> What log file can I watch to see what ports are fit by nmap
[05:06] <anathema_> okay
[05:06] <ICE> device driver "nv"
[05:06] <anathema_> found it thanks
[05:06] <Xenguy> server_newbie: /var/log/messages for one
[05:06] <MagicFab> anathema_: it's in "Monitor" section, the value to change is VertRefresh
[05:07] <dooglus> raghu: have you visited shoreline.net?  it's some kind of christian flash nightmare :)
[05:07] <MagicFab> ICE: ok! change that to "vesa"
[05:07] <ICE> k
[05:07] <MagicFab> ICE: save the file
[05:07] <Xenguy> dooglus: content, not form :-)
[05:07] <raghu> dooglus, sorry it is www.shorewall.net
[05:07] <MagicFab> ICE: hit CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to restart the X Server
[05:07] <dooglus> raghu: right :)
[05:08] <MagicFab> ICE: vesa is a generic driver for graphic cards
[05:08] <Ophiocus> MagicFab, could you help me on that one?
[05:08] <Xenguy> dooglus: gah, I see what you mean - that is not it ;-)
[05:08] <amittp_> Xenguy, gftp does allow me to open it in gvim, edit it too.. but I think it saves it to temp folder, not edit the file at server itself, is this normal behaviour?
[05:08] <MagicFab> ICE: if you have the same problem, then we can rule out bad driver config and try other stuff
[05:09] <Ep|phany> hey is unrar-nonfree a universe repository?
[05:09] <Hobbsee> !info unrar-nonfree
[05:09] <alex777> quick question, can I enable the installed vnc server on an ubuntu install remotely through ssh ?
[05:09] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[05:09] <bimberi> Ep|phany: no, it's in the multiverse repository
[05:10] <milkman> sweet
[05:10] <MagicFab> Ophiocus: what are you trying to do, connect to the modem or authenticate with your provider ?
[05:10] <litage> i booted using the latest ubuntu live cd. lspci didn't recognize my ide controller, so i loaded the ahci kernel module. however, the ide controller still isn't recognized. what can i do?
[05:10] <Ep|phany> hmm gotta figure out how to get muliverse repository now
[05:10] <MagicFab> Ep|phany: no, it would be a package (application)
[05:10] <milkman> sweet
[05:10] <litage> or...are there any cheat codes for the ubuntu live cd, like there are for knoppix?
[05:10] <ICE> damn whats the sudo to give you access to the file
[05:10] <Hobbsee> !tell Ep|phany about repositories
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> alex777,  you can login as a user, and run the vncserver with ssh.. or do you mean tunnle to the box with ssh to get to the vnc service?
[05:10] <ICE> sudo ___
[05:10] <bimberi> Ep|phany: does that repositories page help?
[05:10] <milkman> try rebooting in F8 safe mode
[05:10] <MagicFab> alex777: yes you can
[05:10] <raghu> !ahci
[05:10] <ubotu> raghu: What?
[05:10] <milkman> jk
[05:10] <alex777> I just need to enable the vncserver
[05:10] <ICE> sudo what to give access
[05:10] <alex777> so I can connect to it using a vnc client
[05:10] <Ep|phany> hmm i did everything it said for universe and multiverse repository and i still dont see it
[05:11] <alex777> I read about it on the ubuntuguide, but it only says how to enable it from gnome
[05:11] <MagicFab> alex777: yes, but you'll need port redirection / tunneling through SSH - look it up
[05:11] <i3dmaster> dapper upgrade got rid of mplayer today
[05:11] <Madpilot> Ep|phany: hit the reload button in Synaptic
[05:11] <Ep|phany> i did
[05:11] <MagicFab> ICE: sudo nano file
[05:12] <Ophiocus> MagicFab,  that is part of a proxy script, i have 2 nics and that line if for setting up the extip but it returns ppp0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[05:12] <alex777> MagicFab I mean I want to enable the remote desktop function from ubuntu remotely
[05:12] <Hobbsee> !tell Ep|phany about repositories
[05:12] <alex777> that's what I want to do, I just didn't explain it correctly
[05:12] <Hobbsee> !tell Ep|phany about sources
[05:12] <nemik> what up ubuntu'ers?
[05:12] <Ep|phany> hobsee i did all that already
[05:12] <Hobbsee> Ep|phany: oops...on that second one, there's a list of sources there, including multiverse
[05:12] <ICE> now I just have to restart right
[05:12] <MagicFab> alex777: remote desktop in Ubuntu is really a VNC server
[05:12] <server_newbie> What log file does knockd watch ?
[05:13] <Ep|phany> anyone know what else i can do to get unrar-nonfree?
[05:13] <MagicFab> Ophiocus: can't help with that - sorry
[05:13] <Khaaaaan> hey guys, what is the extra package I need to install k3b?
[05:13] <alex777> MagicFab yep, and I just want to know how I can enable it, is there a config file I can change to enable it ?
[05:13] <MagicFab> ICE: you don't have to reboot - you can hit CTRL -ALT-BACKSPACE
[05:13] <ICE> magic how to restart now in x
[05:13] <markw> ok, this thing won't let me do software raid, then put lvm on top of it. :(
[05:13] <raghu> Khaaaaan, run k3b it only says
[05:13] <ICE> I tried startx
[05:14] <ICE> but its already running
[05:14] <raghu> Khaaaaan, apt-cache search k3b
[05:14] <MagicFab> alex777: found this w/google: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=375346
[05:15] <Ophiocus> ok i ll give you an easier one :) (tried the change, it works) how do i get my current dns info?
[05:15] <alex777> MagicFab oh, nice, what was your search on google for ? just curious
[05:15] <Ophiocus> my isp s dns that is
[05:15] <Ep|phany> is there any other way i can get unrar-nonfree its not loading even with repositorys in synaptic
[05:15] <alex777> it looks like what I need, thanks
[05:15] <Amiracle> Hi, I've done everything I can to install printer drivers.  I installed csh, tcsh, a2ps,  installed the LPR driver, then the CUPS driver, reset cupsys, connected to localhost:631, set up the printer, but nothing prints!  Can anyone help me out???
[05:16] <ubuntu> werddddddddddddddd
[05:16] <MagicFab> ICE: did you try th ekey combination I told you ?
[05:16] <ubuntu> this is awesome :O
[05:16] <Khaaaaan> raghu: Will the package be in the normal Breezy repos?
[05:16] <Hobbsee> Ep|phany: packages.ubuntu.com?
[05:16] <ubuntu> ubuntu LiveCD is the shit
[05:16] <ICE> i retarted
[05:16] <MagicFab> alex777: "vnc server start ubuntu"
[05:16] <ULffuntu> heh
[05:16] <ICE> restarted
[05:16] <ICE> lol
[05:16] <Ep|phany> or are there any other unrar programs
[05:16] <alex777> :)
[05:16] <alex777> cool, thanks
[05:16] <raghu> Khaaaaan, you donot have multiverse repo
[05:16] <ubuntu> Does ubuntu use ext3?
[05:16] <MagicFab> Amiracle: which printer
[05:16] <ICE> works
[05:16] <Khaaaaan> I started it... it didnt say
[05:16] <ICE> thx
[05:16] <bimberi> ubuntu: yes
[05:16] <MagicFab> ubuntu: yes, default
[05:16] <bimberi> Ep|phany: paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin ...
[05:16] <ubuntu> How do I access my windows files?
[05:16] <bimberi> !pastebin
[05:16] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:17] <anathema_> hey another question..is there a joystick configure thing in ubuntu?
[05:17] <anathema_> !joystick
[05:17] <ubotu> anathema_: Wish i knew
[05:17] <MagicFab> ICE: works ? ..??
[05:17] <anathema_> ive got a gamepad, want to get er going
[05:17] <anathema_> calibrate it
[05:17] <anathema_> etc
[05:17] <Amiracle> Brother MFC420
[05:17] <bimberi> ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:17] <anathema_> anyone know if there is a util?
[05:17] <raghu> ubuntu: samba
[05:17] <_Dez> Where can i get XFree86
[05:17] <MagicFab> !WindowsPartitions
[05:17] <ubotu> MagicFab: Syntax error in line 1
[05:18] <raghu> _Dez, apt-get install x-window-system
[05:18] <Amiracle> I get a message with the cups manager that says "USB printer is busy: will restart in 5 seconds"
[05:18] <Khaaaaan> The wiki don told me !
[05:18] <Khaaaaan> Whoo hoo
[05:18] <_Dez> raghu isnt that XORG not XFree86?
[05:18] <MagicFab> anathema_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75063.html
[05:19] <MagicFab> Amiracle: did you look it up in linux-printing.org ?
[05:19] <Ep|phany> how do i use a .deb?
[05:19] <Amiracle> yeah, wasn't listed
[05:19] <IRCPunk> _Dez I think your correct
[05:19] <nicholaspaul> i need some help sharing a connection - anyone good with firestarter?
[05:19] <Amiracle> I've read some reports floating around that people got this printer to work
[05:19] <_Dez> i need _XFree86_ only
[05:19] <turmat> hy guys
[05:19] <server_newbie> sorry lost my connect what is theport scanning web site again Thanks
[05:20] <SEJeff> nicholaspaul: Good with firestarter? That is really easy to use
[05:20] <MagicFab> Ep|phany: from command line: dpkg -i xxxxxxxxx.deb
[05:20] <turmat> do you know how to install ms truetype core fonts?
[05:20] <nicholaspaul> SEJeff: have you shared connections with it?
[05:20] <MagicFab> Amiracle: then won't work, most probably
[05:20] <Hobbsee> !tell turmat about msttcorefonts
[05:20] <nicholaspaul> SEJeff: i'm using a crossover cable
[05:20] <Amiracle> ouch
[05:20] <Hobbsee> turmat: read the PM :)
[05:20] <MagicFab> nicholaspaul: check this
[05:20] <MagicFab> !netsharing
[05:20] <nicholaspaul> k
[05:20] <ubotu> netsharing is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/hardware/InternetConectionSharing?highlight=%28sharing%29
[05:20] <turmat> thanks
[05:20] <Hobbsee> no problems
[05:21] <SEJeff> nicholaspaul: In firestarter: Firewall ---> Run Wizard
[05:21] <Amiracle> I've read, through randing searching, that someone got the brother MFC420 to work in Breezy, but no further help - anyone else have any ideas????
[05:21] <nalioth> turmat: install msttcorefonts package
[05:21] <nicholaspaul> SEJeff: i've done that. I've been thru howto's and nothing works for me
[05:21] <Ophiocus> ok,....   MagicFab ,.. i did it, am happy to say that my ubuntu box is dhcp serving a private lan ahich can access the net through the proxy on the ubuntu machine
[05:21] <nicholaspaul> hey nalioth: i even reinstalled my entire ubuntu system!!!
[05:21] <Ep|phany> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege thats what i get when going dpkgp -i xxx.deb
[05:22] <Ophiocus> s/aich/which
[05:22] <MagicFab> Amiracle: let me check it out
[05:22] <SEJeff> nicholaspaul, echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:22] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Thanks a lot
[05:22] <bimberi> Ep|phany: sudo dpkg ....
[05:22] <nicholaspaul> do what SEJeff ?
[05:22] <MagicFab> Amiracle: this seems to indicate it's actually supported directly by Brother:
[05:22] <MagicFab> Amiracle: http://forum.linspire.com/viewtopic.php?t=394967&sid=1a68859fd5166bbfa4f59e125da0afbe
[05:22] <MagicFab> Amiracle: Brother how-to: http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_wrapper_install.html
[05:23] <MagicFab> Ep|phany: don't quit just yet - you have to be su to do that... soo.... su dpkg -i xxxxx.deb
[05:23] <Amiracle> MagicFab: That's where I got the CUPS driver from, it's installed and recognized but it still won't print
[05:23] <nicholaspaul> SEJeff: i got 'command not found'
[05:23] <FarrisG> Is there a list somewhere of all the packages breezy installs by default? My system reported a problem just after the first bootup, but I think everything's fine. I'd rather not go through the installer again, so I'd like to just install everything manually
[05:23] <nalioth> nicholaspaul: good to hear
[05:23] <MagicFab> Amiracle: did you restart cups ?
[05:24] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Yep
[05:24] <nicholaspaul> nalioth: just so i know my problems are not me screwing up ownerships!!!
[05:24] <Amiracle> MagicFab: I did get an error when installing the CUPS that said that csh wasn't found, though I'm SURE that it is there
[05:24] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Even with the error, it still is recognized in the printer setup and on the cups manager
[05:24] <SEJeff> nicholaspaul: Well you didn't type it right. echo is a bash builtin command
[05:24] <MagicFab> Ophiocus: pay it forward ;)
[05:24] <nicholaspaul> SEJeff:  oh i missed a bit then
[05:25] <nicholaspaul> what was it again SEJeff ?
[05:25] <SEJeff> nicholaspaul: scroll up
[05:25] <Ep|phany> urgg i keep getting erros when using su dpkg
[05:25] <nicholaspaul> ok
[05:25] <FlyingSquirrel32> How do I install a parallel printer that's not detected if the lpt port doesn't show up in the port list... it only shows usb ports
[05:26] <Ep|phany> are there any other ways to run .debs?
[05:26] <nicholaspaul> SEJeff: permission denied. And i copy/pasted
[05:26] <mustard5> Ep|phany, su?
[05:26] <Ep|phany> yea
[05:26] <SEJeff> nicholaspaul: sorry, I forgot. Put sudo in front of it
[05:26] <Ep|phany> im trying
[05:26] <Ep|phany> keeps giving me errors
[05:26] <nicholaspaul> SEJeff: i put sudo infront.
[05:26] <mustard5> Ep|phany, I thought you use sudo
[05:26] <Ep|phany> oh
[05:26] <Ep|phany> lemme try the other one then
[05:26] <SEJeff> nicholaspaul: no. You won't get permission denied if you use sudo
[05:26] <Liket> what's the best place to get various packages for a fresh ubuntu install? i don't even have "make" currently, and I have no idea where to find it
[05:26] <MagicFab> Amiracle: can you try this: http://forum.linspire.com/viewtopic.php?p=381861
[05:26] <SEJeff> nicholaspaul: Unless your user isn't in the admin group
[05:27] <Ep|phany> that doesnt work either
[05:27] <Ep|phany> how else can i use .debs
[05:27] <_Dez> omfg
[05:27] <MagicFab> FlyingSquirrel32: your BIOS probably has parallel port deactivated
[05:27] <_Dez> i love Xorg now :)
[05:27] <mustard5> Ep|phany, what is the error message?
[05:27] <nicholaspaul> SEJeff:  i can normally sudo just fine
[05:27] <Ep|phany> (Reading database ... 62779 files and directories currently installed.)
[05:27] <Ep|phany> Preparing to replace unrar-nonfree 3.3.6-2 (using .../unrar-nonfree_3.3.6-2_i386.deb) ...
[05:27] <Ep|phany> Unpacking replacement unrar-nonfree ...
[05:27] <Ep|phany> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of unrar-nonfree:
[05:27] <Ep|phany>  unrar-nonfree depends on libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1); however:
[05:27] <FlyingSquirrel32> MagicFab: great idea. thanks for your help.
[05:27] <Ep|phany>   Package libstdc++5 is not installed.
[05:27] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Checking it out, I'll let you know - thanks a lot
[05:27] <Ep|phany> dpkg: error processing unrar-nonfree (--install):
[05:27] <Ep|phany>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[05:27] <Ep|phany> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:27] <Ep|phany>  unrar-nonfree
[05:28] <Liket> hey, what's a good place to get packages for ubuntu? (looking for equivalent of rpmfind for redhat)
[05:28] <bimberi> Liket: you get them from the ubuntu repositories (/msg ubotu repositories).  For "make" and other such tools install the build-essential package'
[05:28] <Liket> ahh
[05:28] <Liket> thanks
[05:28] <MagicFab> ahhh
[05:28] <EdLin> Liket, enable universe and multiverse, in synaptic, or in /etc/apt/sources.list. Getting make is in build-essential, but you probably don't want that for installing 3rd party programs because, including universe, Ubuntu has over 16,000 programs in its repository
[05:28] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Yeah, all of those articles I have read.  I actually followed SpeedyOne's suggestions from the last article posted.
[05:28] <anathema_> hey MagicFab, which control center is he talking about
[05:28] <EdLin> oops, someone else explained too.
[05:28] <anathema_> and i dont have the programs mentioned
[05:29] <Ep|phany> whyd i get kicked?
[05:29] <MagicFab> Amiracle: out of ideas
[05:29] <bimberi> EdLin: but i like yours better :P
[05:29] <MagicFab> Amiracle: except going to your place ;)
[05:29] <mustard5> Ep|phany, no pasting in main channel
[05:29] <Ep|phany> oh
[05:29] <Ep|phany> sorry
[05:29] <SEJeff> Liket: apt-cache search :-)
[05:29] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Any idea why when isntalling the cupswrapper driver I got an error message saying something to the effect of csh not found
[05:29] <nalioth> Ep|phany: what part of the /topic did you not understand?
[05:29] <mustard5> Ep|phany, the problem is not sudo...
[05:29] <Ep|phany> sorry
[05:29] <EdLin> bimberi, thanks. :-)
[05:29] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Can I point the installer to the directory?
[05:29] <mustard5> Ep|phany, ther problem is you don't have a dependency installed
[05:29] <Ep|phany> whats that mean
[05:29] <jgraham_> anyone ever had a issue installing and the write stopping to the HD?  (this is on a laptop)
[05:29] <tsume> oi
[05:30] <litage> are there any cheat codes for the ubuntu live cd, like there are for knoppix?
[05:30] <tsume> anyone set up twinview with nvidia before who can let me peak at their xorg.conf file?
[05:30] <nicholaspaul> SEJeff: that wiki on internet sharing makes no sense to me :(
[05:30] <MagicFab> Amiracle: you could retry it and google the exact error messgae you had along with "brother"
[05:30] <mustard5> Ep|phany, its looking for libstdc++5, but you don't have it installed
[05:30] <anathema_> found em on synaptic MagicFab
[05:30] <Ep|phany> how can i install that
[05:30] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Yeah, tried that.  Got nothing
[05:30] <tsume> I'm trying to get twinview working on this laptop, which I know has TV capability
[05:30] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Thanks for your help though
[05:30] <mustard5> Ep|phany, you could use Synaptic Package Manager to search for it
[05:30] <SEJeff> tsume: xinerama is a PITA
[05:31] <Madpilot> litage: if you type "BFG9000" it'll be easier to defeat the end-of-level bosses :)
[05:31] <Amiracle> MagicFab: You don't happen to live in Iowa do you?
[05:31] <Amiracle> MagicFab: =)
[05:31] <SEJeff> Madpilot: nice
[05:31] <DrZeus> Question: how do I use the --append-to-version with kpkg?
[05:31] <saik0> Is anybody here familiar with using the thin client ltsp server (following wiki)? I cant build the runtime environment and I'm not sure why
[05:31] <tsume> SEJeff: oh?
[05:31] <tsume> SEJeff: I'm just tyring to get eh second monitor up period :) even without Xinerama
[05:32] <MagicFab> Amiracle: nope - Montreal - phew! :D
[05:32] <Nitewalker> hi there everyone ive jst finished installing w32codecs and its still not loading up the avi i want to play im jst wondering if i need to install xine i did some updates thru synaptic for this particular item i found them under xine-ui
[05:32] <poofyhair> I like totem-xine best
[05:32] <saik0> Nitewalker, try totem-xine
[05:32] <poofyhair> more tahn xine-ui
[05:33] <mustard5> Ep|phany, unrar-nonfree is availabe through synaptic too
[05:33] <Nitewalker> saik0, thanks i will try that now
[05:33] <MagicFab> saik0: error messages ?
[05:33] <tsume> SEJeff: loks like I found the problem :)
[05:33] <saik0> Hey look it's poofyhair guy. I was stating to think you we're some ethereal creature who only exixts in the realm on ubuntuforums.org
[05:33] <MagicFab> ICE: still there ?
[05:34] <mustard5> Ep|phany, you would need to enable the multiverse repository to get unrar-nonfree through synaptic
[05:34] <poofyhair> no I'm a real boy
[05:34] <poofyhair> I'm just not that good at typing so IRC is harder for me
[05:34] <poofyhair> lol
[05:34] <poofyhair> (joke)
[05:35] <poofyhair> am I the only one who can't get enough of lugradio?
[05:35] <robertj> PS: If your downloading a file that ends in .rar, your downloading from a moron
[05:35] <Nitewalker> saik0,  those are already loaded up on my computer
[05:35] <robertj> just thought I would throw that in ;)
[05:35] <SEJeff> tsume: What did you do?
[05:35] <MagicFab> robertj: be nice
[05:35] <Ep|phany> mustard5 i did but im still not seeing multiverse things
[05:35] <davidleeroth> I have a question... my clock is wayyy too fast. there are around 5 seconds on the clock for every real second of time.  this makes animated gif's and other things move very fast. the time is also wildly innacurate.  there have been times when the fake time has looped the real time (24 hrs).  i tried the noacpi boot command, but this turns off my wifi card (wont work after boot either).  help!
[05:35] <Ep|phany> i did the steps it said for universe and multiverse things
[05:36] <FlyingSquirrel32> Dude! you're the best. I can't remember your name, but ou're right it was the BIOS. Thanks a bunch!
[05:36] <robertj> MagicFab: bahh I've spent too much time with .tar.rar.gz.zip files
[05:36] <FlyingSquirrel32> I think it was MajicFab
[05:36] <saik0> MagicFab: Not sure =( It tries configuring xorg and then X crashes. Should I be doing this in a chroot or stop xorg?
[05:36] <mustard5> Ep|phany, try typing sudo apt-get update in terminal with syaptic closed
[05:36] <tsume> SEJeff: nothing yet
[05:36] <MagicFab> FlyingSquirrel32: no prob.. - pay it forward :D
[05:36] <nybble> i'm having problems getting my dvd drive to read anything
[05:36] <tsume> SEJeff: man, its amazing how many dumb asses there are whio will reboot the computer every time they make a change to linux
[05:36] <nybble> lol tsume
[05:36] <poofyhair> hey
[05:37] <robertj> which undoubtedly contains a self-extracted windows executable which unpacks an mp3
[05:37] <MagicFab> saik0: try to startx from command line, it should let you see errors
[05:37] <poofyhair> thats not nice
[05:37] <FlyingSquirrel32> well, at least I got to do a little cups reading ;)
[05:37] <SEJeff> tsume: 99% of the things people think need to reboot for can be fixed by restarting a service
[05:37] <MagicFab> saik0: CTRL-ALT-F1, login, stop GDM, startx
[05:37] <FlyingSquirrel32> thanks, see ya.
[05:37] <tsume> SEJeff: i know, its sad
[05:37] <tsume> SEJeff: I come from BSD land
[05:37] <SEJeff> tsume: at very most, init 1 and then CTRL D to go back to runlevel 5
[05:37] <tsume> SEJeff: if I rebooted a server after every change, i wouldn't have any customers
[05:37] <SEJeff> tsume: I come from Unix land :)
[05:37] <mustard5> Ep|phany, the way you are going about it at the moment is not the easiest way....once you have all your repositories enabled you will have an easier time installing packages in apt-get and synaptic
[05:37] <SEJeff> tsume: I hear ya
[05:37] <saik0> MagicFab: oh. i forgot to mention after X crashes it starts back up again. But my PXE thin clients do nothing
[05:37] <MagicFab> tsume: be nice - vocabulary
[05:38] <davidleeroth> can anyone help me with an annoying clock problem?
[05:38] <tsume> MagicFab: well damn, I get all over my windows friend about it
[05:38] <tsume> MagicFab: he is like// "reboot!"
[05:38] <tsume> I have to tear out all the reboot commands and buttons from the computer so he stops it
[05:38] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Ep|phany about pastebin
[05:38] <MagicFab> saik0: oh, LTSP. I 've had problems with rong permissions - it's too far in memory though
[05:39] <poofyhair> davidlee roth
[05:39] <poofyhair> one sec
[05:39] <SEJeff> tsume: What is this "not having to reboot" thing you speak of?
[05:39] <Amiracle> MagicFab: FYI, let me throw this out for you and maybe something will pop up and you can say, "Ahhh, just do this."  This is the error I get when unpackaging the cupswrapper file.
[05:39] <davidleeroth> thanks poofyhair
[05:39] <Amiracle> MagicFab: sudo dpkg -i cupswrappermfc420cn_1.0.0-1_i386.deb
[05:39] <Amiracle> (Reading database ... 103398 files and directories currently installed.)
[05:39] <Amiracle> Preparing to replace cupswrappermfc420cn 1.0.0-1 (using cupswrappermfc420cn_1.0.0-1_i386.deb) ...
[05:39] <Amiracle> /var/lib/dpkg/info/cupswrappermfc420cn.prerm: line 3: csh: command not found
[05:39] <Amiracle> Unpacking replacement cupswrappermfc420cn ...
[05:39] <Amiracle> Setting up cupswrappermfc420cn (1.0.0-1) ...
[05:39] <tsume> SEJeff: I kjnow, its what he asks
[05:39] <Amiracle> /var/lib/dpkg/info/cupswrappermfc420cn.postinst: line 3: csh: command not found
[05:39] <MagicFab> davidleeroth: perhaps look up "real time clock linux" in google - I think it may be related to what u described
[05:39] <mustard5> Ep|phany, check PM from ubotu about pastebin I'm going to get you to show me your sources.list
[05:39] <tsume> SEJeff: I told him to restart dhcpd.. he reboots the server
[05:39] <SEJeff> tsume: Windows has detected mouse movement, please restart for these changes to take effect.
[05:39] <Amiracle> MagicFab: I checked Synaptic and csh is installed
[05:39] <nalioth> Amiracle: did you not see the /topic?
[05:39] <PrideF> my head hurts!!!  Someone tell me why I suck at figuring out sound on Breezy?
[05:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun you ever figure anything out with my gmailfs issue? :(
[05:40] <MagicFab> Amiracle: no pasting here please, using http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:40] <nalioth> Amiracle: pasting is offensive to all the rest of us
[05:40] <poofyhair> davidlee
[05:40] <poofyhair> I think I have a solution
[05:40] <poofyhair> I hope ti works
[05:40] <poofyhair> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75281
[05:40] <davidleeroth> magicfab, it is because i have an amd64
[05:40] <Ep|phany> mustard5 how do i show you my sourcelist
[05:40] <mustard5> Ep|phany, type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in terminal then paste the content of that file in a pastebin then show me the URL to the pastebin
[05:40] <davidleeroth> i am running a 32 bitubuntu though
[05:40] <Amiracle> sorry, first time here - should've read that first
[05:40] <poofyhair> there is guide for both
[05:40] <poofyhair> on same page
[05:41] <SEJeff> davidleeroth: Why not install 64 bit ubuntu?
[05:41] <MagicFab> Amiracle: it's not csh that is not found, it's the /var... command
[05:41] <MagicFab> Amiracle: are you doing all that as su (sudo)
[05:41] <MagicFab> ?
[05:41] <Amiracle> MagicFab: no as root
[05:41] <Amiracle> MagicFab: I just didn't create a root this time for example purposes
[05:41] <dducko> Wondering which video card some of you would recomend, budget, and compatibility with Ubuntu biggest concern.. i have 2 idea on one..
[05:41] <dducko> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1010681&CatId=0
[05:41] <dducko> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1458679&CatId=0
[05:41] <MagicFab> Amiracle: well, that's what I meant - it seems to be a permission prob
[05:41] <Ep|phany> mustard5 what do i do after i do the sudo gedit
[05:41] <davidleeroth> sejeff, 64 bit distros arent really supported as well as a 32
[05:42] <theturtl> definitely nvidia
[05:42] <Amiracle> MagicFab: I get the same message when I'm doing it as root
[05:42] <dducko> They are both nvidia chips
[05:42] <SEJeff> davidleeroth: Ubuntu does ok
[05:42] <poofyhair> ducko
[05:42] <dducko> ones by diablotek and the the other evga
[05:42] <poofyhair> neither
[05:42] <poofyhair> seriously
[05:42] <PrideF> SEJeff, HAHAHAH, tell that to my sound card on my AMD64
[05:42] <MagicFab> Amiracle: use the paste bin so I can see it closely
[05:42] <poofyhair> neither
[05:42] <theturtl> they are the same card
[05:42] <mustard5> Ep|phany, copy and paste the contents of the sources.list to the pastebin...ubotu sent you a message about where to find the pastebin
[05:42] <poofyhair> the 5500 is a waste
[05:42] <poofyhair> big waste
[05:42] <theturtl> but i agree with poofyhair
[05:42] <davidleeroth> poofy, they give the noacpi solution.... which turns off my wifi card
[05:42] <poofyhair> might as well get the 5200
[05:42] <booger> yet another atttempt to fix the sound on gxine
[05:43] <booger> any one?
[05:43] <poofyhair> the 5500 can't play games anyway
[05:43] <dducko> One you would reccomend for under 70?
[05:43] <MagicFab> Ep|phany: you have to visit http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ and paste the contents of your file there
[05:43] <poofyhair> I have a much better suggestion
[05:43] <theturtl> you'd be better off getting a slightly older higher priced card
[05:43] <poofyhair> get an ATI 9250
[05:43] <poofyhair> I'm very close to buying one
[05:43] <dducko> No Ati.
[05:43] <poofyhair> when the EXA stuff gets hammered out
[05:43] <Amiracle> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:43] <SEJeff> Don't get an ATI card for linux
[05:43] <nemik> no, ATI bad
[05:43] <poofyhair> it will be the first supported card
[05:43] <Amiracle> Don't know how that works, sorry
[05:43] <Amiracle> My first time on a chat program for a LONG time
[05:44] <poofyhair> tthe 9250 has the best open soruce graphics driver in the world
[05:44] <PrideF> ATI == teh. suck
[05:44] <SEJeff> ATI has official linux drivers, but they are crappy
[05:44] <poofyhair> no
[05:44] <poofyhair> not the 9250
[05:44] <dducko> I ve got a raedeon 9200 laying on the shelf
[05:44] <booger> can anyone help me with sound for gxine
[05:44] <poofyhair> the 9250 will be the first card to have stable compmanaging
[05:44] <dducko> and an nvida 64 meg card in the sytem now
[05:44] <MagicFab> Amiracle: visit this website: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ and paste your output there
[05:44] <SEJeff> the ATI linux drivers are crap, this is known
[05:44] <poofyhair> but
[05:44] <PrideF> booger, yes...windows :P
[05:44] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Thanks, I'll do that
[05:44] <davidleeroth> poofy, they give the noacpi solution.... which turns off my wifi card
[05:44] <Ep|phany> mustard5 http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4284
[05:44] <poofyhair> the open soruce drivers for that ATI card
[05:44] <poofyhair> are better than Nvidia's
[05:44] <mustard5> Ep|phany, thanks
[05:44] <DrZeus> what does this line means? cd /usr/src cd kernel-source-version cp /boot/config-uname --kernel-release ./.config
[05:44] <PrideF> booger, sorry, long day working on sound on this bugger
[05:44] <booger> PrideF: I hate windows
[05:44] <PrideF> me too
[05:44] <booger> I understand
[05:44] <DrZeus> it is in the kernelhowto but I dont understand it
[05:44] <Ep|phany> who doesnt
[05:44] <DrZeus> cd /usr/src cd kernel-source-version cp /boot/config-uname --kernel-release ./.config
[05:44] <saik0> MagicFab, I'm by no means an expert on the subject but i think I should be building this runtime environment inside a chroot. Here's the wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto (See Part 2)
[05:44] <MagicFab> Ep|phany: great - I realize this pastebin thing is not that easy to grasp :(
[05:44] <Ep|phany> i just switched to linux today
[05:44] <SEJeff> poofyhair: Tell that to the fps I get in ppracer
[05:44] <PrideF> booger, I will never adopt that *cough* os out of redmond
[05:44] <cyphase> Ep|phany, congratulations
[05:45] <nemik> still can't let go, stupid school apps
[05:45] <DrZeus> dooglus, I dont understand this line cd /usr/src cd kernel-source-version cp /boot/config-uname --kernel-release ./.config
[05:45] <booger> haha
[05:45] <SEJeff> PrideF: Why not, DOS is a great OS from Microsoft?
[05:45] <poofyhair> who cares about open soruce games
[05:45] <MagicFab> DrZeus: it's several commands on one line - that won't work
[05:45] <poofyhair> the point of cheap graphics cards
[05:45] <SEJeff> poofyhair: Or quake 3
[05:45] <poofyhair> is 2d
[05:45] <booger> PrideF: so figure anything out on sound for yourself
[05:45] <PrideF> SEJeff, haha, dos was great...20 years ago
[05:45] <nemik> but use ubuntu for all else...especially base install for servers....so stable and yummy
[05:45] <poofyhair> so the user should get hte best supported card
[05:45] <MagicFab> saik0: can't follow you there - no expert either ;)
[05:45] <theturtl> whats the point of getting the 9250 exactly
[05:45] <PrideF> yeah, don't use Ubuntu for sound on breezy.  there have to be a dozen threads out there with zero answers
[05:45] <poofyhair> the 9250's now have EXA support
[05:45] <DrZeus> MagicFab, it is in the kernelhowto, but dont understand the --kernel-release ./.config
[05:46] <theturtl> it sucks for any games, what else use does it have?
[05:46] <Ep|phany> mustard5 is everything okay?
[05:46] <poofyhair> AKA: desktop acceration
[05:46] <dducko> I run NWN on this setup, and it plays better then it does in windows
[05:46] <mustard5> Ep|phany, go to this link http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 and replace your old sources.list with the one at that link
[05:46] <poofyhair> desktop acceration is like what OSX has
[05:46] <dducko> especially now then i went from 256 ram to 1 gig
[05:46] <poofyhair> the 9250's will be the first to have it stable
[05:46] <poofyhair> plus
[05:46] <SEJeff> poofyhair: and EXA is still very new
[05:46] <Ep|phany> how do i replace my source list
[05:46] <booger> HELP! SOUND
[05:46] <jon_> Hey, I just got my Ubuntu system up and i'm going to attempt to install Java, if I type something wrong in Terminal will it harm my system at all?
[05:46] <Amiracle> MagicFab: It's posted
[05:46] <PrideF> me is ashamed:  he's DL'ing Fedora
[05:46] <poofyhair> xgl ONLY runs on the 92xx's now
[05:46] <nemik> so i'm looking for a nice big hard drive to put into my USB 2.0 enclosure. any suggestions?
[05:46] <poofyhair> EXA is developing fast
[05:46] <mustard5> Ep|phany, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:46] <saik0> MagicFab, I'll just pretend I am and try it. no harm can really be done in a chroot anyhow
[05:46] <poofyhair> you get a 9250 now
[05:46] <poofyhair> and by dapper
[05:46] <poofyhair> it WILL be used
[05:46] <tryingsomething> anyone can tell me right quick how to setup static ip with a router?
[05:46] <pc22> how do i watch avi file in ubuntu
[05:46] <poofyhair> by EXA
[05:46] <mustard5> Ep|phany, you just executed that command about one minute ago ;)
[05:46] <SEJeff> poofyhair: Developing fast will not be in breezy. Maybe in dapper timeframe
[05:46] <poofyhair> in a stable fashion
[05:46] <Ep|phany> sorry
[05:47] <dducko> tryingsomething, what router?
[05:47] <tryingsomething> i tried man ifconfig - that didnt tell me much
[05:47] <tryingsomething> linksys
[05:47] <MagicFab> Amiracle: checking it
[05:47] <tryingsomething> i know the ip of the router and what i want to give the machine
[05:47] <mustard5> Ep|phany, its fine..its all overwhelming at the start :)
[05:47] <poofyhair> actually
[05:47] <DrZeus> what is this: cp /boot/config-uname --kernel-release ./.config
[05:47] <nemik> tryingsomething, my linksys VOIP doesn't allow IP reservations, very annoying. is yours like this too?
[05:47] <MagicFab> saik0: you go :D
[05:47] <SEJeff> tryingsomething: ifconfig eth0 1.2.3.4 netmast 255.255.255.0
[05:47] <poofyhair> accourding to Alex
[05:47] <DrZeus> MagicFab, what is this: cp /boot/config-uname --kernel-release ./.config
[05:47] <poofyhair> the guy hacking EXA the most
[05:47] <jah_raztah> how do i change the grub default ubuntu boot screen to a new one
[05:47] <poofyhair> the ATI card is already stable
[05:48] <SEJeff> tryingsomething, 1.2.3.4 is your ip and 255.x is your subnet mask
[05:48] <tryingsomething> im doing wifi but its still nearly the same
[05:48] <poofyhair> with render accel
[05:48] <SEJeff> tryingsomething: iwconfig then
[05:48] <mustard5> Ep|phany, that link http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 is a standard sources.list so just copy and paste it over the top of your old one then do a sudo apt-get update
[05:48] <tryingsomething> what about telling it about the router / gateway = dns?
[05:48] <MagicFab> DrZeus: uname --kernel-release get you a kernel version
[05:48] <henriquemaia> hello, just a question... How do I run a X application through crontab?
[05:48] <SEJeff> tryingsomething: Then do route add default gw 1.2.3.1 where 1.2.3.1 is the ip of your router / gateway / cable modem
[05:48] <jah_raztah> i found one ---> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=29962 but don't know how to set it in breezy
[05:48] <mustard5> Ep|phany, after saving the sources.list that is
[05:48] <tryingsomething> i have wpa_supplicant taking care of the wifi config - just not the ip assignment
[05:48] <Ep|phany> k doing that now
[05:48] <tryingsomething> that's the one i was looking for thanks
[05:48] <MagicFab> DrZeus: so the cp command becomes something like cp /boot/config-2.6.xxx ./.config
[05:48] <DrZeus> MagicFab, and that ./.config what is that?
[05:49] <tryingsomething> thank you thanks
[05:49] <DrZeus> oh I see
[05:49] <Ep|phany> then i should go back into synaptic right
[05:49] <dducko> what about a 6200,  Tha worth $70.. or getting?
[05:49] <MagicFab> DrZeus: you can do uname --kernel-release and reuse the output to pu ttogether the command
[05:49] <mustard5> Ep|phany, k..after you do a sudo apt-get update ..do this...
[05:49] <SEJeff> tryingsomething: np, I am getting ready to take my LPI 201 Linux Certification test tomorrow. I breathe linux networking :)
[05:49] <davidleeroth> can anyone help me with a clock problem
[05:49] <poofyhair> NOOOOOOOOOOO
[05:49] <mustard5> Ep|phany, sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[05:49] <dducko> I will not get ATI.
[05:49] <poofyhair> the 6200's with turbo cashe
[05:49] <DrZeus> MagicFab, hows that?
[05:49] <tryingsomething> nice
[05:49] <poofyhair> ok
[05:49] <poofyhair> I understand if you don't want ATI
[05:49] <MagicFab> DrZeus: ./.config is the destination file (hidden config in current directory)
[05:49] <PrideF> davidleeroth, is your clock running fast (by like 2x+)?
[05:49] <poofyhair> get a 5200
[05:50] <poofyhair> with lots of RAM
[05:50] <jon_> I'm trying to install Java Runtime and i'm going into terminal and all but when it need my password it's saying it's wrong...if i'm doing anything wrong i'm going in System Tools> Terminal
[05:50] <poofyhair> or a 6600
[05:50] <MagicFab> DrZeus: be specific how's what ?
[05:50] <SEJeff> poofyhair: the OSS drivers with EXA will be sweet, but ATI will still release substandard linux drivers and give crappy support
[05:50] <cafuego_> Get an nvidia, that way you won't have to put up with shite ATI drivers.
[05:50] <poofyhair> the 6200 have shared mempory in most cases
[05:50] <nalioth> ULffuntu: tell jon_ about java
[05:50] <nemik> does anyone recommend seagate baraccuda HD's over WD caviar ones? the WD is much cheaper on newegg.....
[05:50] <poofyhair> it deosn't matter
[05:50] <Ep|phany> k
[05:50] <nemik> need them for an external hd
[05:50] <davidleeroth> pridef, there are around 3 seconds on the clock for every real second
[05:50] <poofyhair> the 9250 deos not need the official ATI drivers
[05:50] <tryingsomething> ati doesnt support linux
[05:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jon_ about java
[05:50] <Ophiocus> how can i make sure the current firewall is "doing its job"?
[05:50] <tryingsomething> ati is in bed with ms
[05:50] <poofyhair> they released the specs for that card
[05:50] <SEJeff> nemik: seagate vs wd is like nike vs reebok
[05:50] <Ep|phany> it did that should i go into synaptic now?
[05:50] <poofyhair> the 9250 is the best support card in Linux today out of the box
[05:50] <brukental> jon: did you set a root password?
[05:51] <mustard5> Ep|phany, you just installed it
[05:51] <stevejesus> whats up guys
[05:51] <sizzam> anyone know the command to uninstall vmware
[05:51] <cafuego_> poofyhair: Yeah, the 9200 too, but they're not really high end by today's standards.
[05:51] <Ep|phany> oh
[05:51] <Ep|phany> thanks
[05:51] <poofyhair> true
[05:51] <mustard5> Ep|phany, its done
[05:51] <PrideF> davidleeroth, haha, saw the same thing earlier with debian sid.  I tried it with amd64 breezy and the problem went away.  now i I could just get sound working  :P
[05:51] <poofyhair> but for normal desktop work
[05:51] <Ep|phany> let me check if it worked
[05:51] <poofyhair> they are the best options
[05:51] <nemik> SEJeff, sorry not up to sneakers...how about designers? prada vs levi's? or a bit better?
[05:51] <poofyhair> because you will get acceration first
[05:51] <stevejesus> so i just put a dvd-rom in my computer and it doesnt show up in /etc/fstab
[05:51] <dducko> I have a 9200.. its a paper weight right now
[05:51] <stevejesus> im not sure what to do
[05:51] <jon_> Yeah, I just got my system up and during installation it said 'Do you want to make an account besides root' I clicked yes and made my account.
[05:51] <PrideF> davidleeroth, sorry, no answers for you, really
[05:51] <mustard5> Ep|phany, apt-get and synaptic are basically the same thing..but one is command line and one is pretty graphical user interface
[05:51] <poofyhair> dducko- you have a 9200?
[05:51] <poofyhair> tell me more
[05:51] <dducko> Yeah
[05:51] <SEJeff> nemik: porsche vs volkswagen?
[05:51] <Ep|phany> oh thank you so much
[05:51] <poofyhair> have you tried the OSS drivers?
[05:51] <jon_> Woops
[05:51] <dducko> Not plugged in.. No
[05:51] <poofyhair> "radeon"
[05:51] <nemik> SEJeff, gotch ;)
[05:51] <davidleeroth> PrideF, i used to use a 64 bit distro, but so many things would not work. John The Ripper would not even work!
[05:51] <nemik> thanks
[05:51] <nalioth> SEJeff: nemik captilism in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:52] <dducko> I tried it once.. didnt like it
[05:52] <poofyhair> you should try them
[05:52] <Ep|phany> i just have on last question is there a gui for unrar-nonfree
[05:52] <mustard5> Ep|phany, does our unrar command work now?
[05:52] <poofyhair> before you buy a whole new card
[05:52] <MagicFab> Amiracle: can you paste the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/cupswrappermfc420cn.prerm if that file exists on your system ?
[05:52] <poofyhair> thats not much more powerful
[05:52] <PrideF> davidleeroth, which 64 bit distro?
[05:52] <tryingsomething> it gave me an error saying a file exists...lol
[05:52] <nemik> nalioth....capitalism?
[05:52] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Let me see what I can do
[05:52] <stevejesus> so i just put a dvd-rom in my computer and it doesnt show up in /etc/fstab
[05:52] <poofyhair> I can tell you how if you want
[05:52] <mustard5> Ep|phany, type this in terminal '   man unrar   '
[05:52] <davidleeroth> pridef: Ubuntu of course!
[05:52] <SEJeff> poofyhair: I am running a radeon 7500, there are only OSS drivers and they are ok on this machine
[05:52] <poofyhair> but if you must ahve a new
[05:52] <poofyhair> card
[05:52] <Ep|phany> oh wicked
[05:52] <Ep|phany> thanks
[05:52] <mustard5> Ep|phany, man unrar will give you the manual for unrar
[05:52] <poofyhair> I recommend the 6600
[05:52] <PrideF> hahaha, I'm trying to find something else
[05:52] <brukental> jon: chmod 777 j2sdk, etc. etc....
[05:52] <dducko> PCI, 128 meg, ATI Radeon
[05:52] <brukental> jon: ./j2sdketc, etc.
[05:52] <poofyhair> oh
[05:52] <poofyhair> PCI
[05:52] <poofyhair> thats why
[05:52] <poofyhair> lol
[05:53] <dducko> yeah
[05:53] <jon_> Am I even going in the right terminal? I also see on the menu there is different terminals like Root Terminal, Terminal
[05:53] <poofyhair> I see why you wish to replace it
[05:53] <Ep|phany> k
[05:53] <Ep|phany> thanks
[05:53] <poofyhair> well
[05:53] <mustard5> Ep|phany, np
[05:53] <poofyhair> if you get a 6200
[05:53] <MagicFab> mustard5: cheers!
[05:53] <stevejesus> is it possible anyone can help me with my fstab?
[05:53] <poofyhair> make sure it has a 128 bit bus
[05:53] <mustard5> Ep|phany, come back anytime for advice ;)
[05:53] <poofyhair> and no turbocahse
[05:53] <Ep|phany> thanks for spoon feeding it to me
[05:53] <jon_> So in Terminal just type chmod 777 ENTER and boom?
[05:53] <Amiracle> MagicFab: done
[05:53] <brukental> jon: your normal terminal will do.
[05:53] <jon_> K.
[05:53] <DrZeus> MagicFab, how can I use the make kpkg "--append-to-version".  The --append-to-version, how do I type that?
[05:53] <brukental> jon: regular user account will do just fine
[05:53] <MagicFab> Amiracle: looking it
[05:53] <nemik> jon_ you nay have to do sudo
[05:53] <Ep|phany> i just have 1 last question is there a good gui client like real vnc?
[05:53] <poofyhair> I love my 6600 GT
[05:53] <jon_> Alright i'll try, be back.
[05:53] <Ep|phany> for viewing
[05:53] <poofyhair> I use xcompmgr all day
[05:54] <poofyhair> and I get a crash maybe once a week
[05:54] <poofyhair> at most
[05:54] <poofyhair> and I haven't had one in a while
[05:54] <mustard5> Ep|phany, search in synaptic now
[05:54] <HedgeMage> hi IRCPunk
[05:54] <poofyhair> since the new xcompmgr release
[05:54] <Ep|phany> k
[05:54] <MagicFab> Amiracle: can you make sure you have both csh and tcsh ? just a thought -I know you said you did
[05:54] <SEJeff> poofyhair: I had a problem with xcompmgr and desktop icons
[05:54] <jon_> nemik: I tryed and got this error: chmod: too few arguments
[05:54] <mustard5> Ep|phany, use keywords that you think might find it...and use the name and description serach option
[05:54] <PrideF> ok, guys.  My sound is killing me here.  I have breezy installed on an MSI 1029 chasis laptop (AMD64 ML-40, 1 gig, ATI 200P express chipset and ATI X700 Graphics
[05:54] <brukental> dont do sudo unless really needed....
[05:54] <MagicFab> DrZeus: don'tknow
[05:55] <PrideF> Sound no worky.  (more details to follow)
[05:55] <nemik> jon_ do chmod 777 and then the folder/file you want to chmod
[05:55] <brukental> yep nemik right
[05:55] <nemik> so chmod 777 /usr/bin/local for example
[05:55] <DrZeus> MagicFab, because the kernelhowto says it has to be used, but gives no examples
[05:55] <stevejesus> is anyone here familiar with fstab more than?  because I am having issues
[05:55] <nemik> and if it gives you some permissions error, do sudo  chmod 777 /usr/bin/local
[05:55] <MagicFab> Amiracle: does /usr/local/Brother/cupswrapper/cupswrapperMFC420CN-1.0.0 exsit on your system ?
[05:55] <poofyhair> xcompmgr is a hrash mistress
[05:55] <mustard5> stevejesus, whats the issue?
[05:56] <brukental> anybody know where ubuntu enterprise can be downloaded?
[05:56] <poofyhair> but I have tamed it
[05:56] <jah_raztah> how do i change the grub default ubuntu boot screen to a new one
[05:56] <poofyhair> recenlty
[05:56] <MagicFab> stevejesus: just ask away
[05:56] <nemik> what is xcompmgr?
[05:56] <jon_> nemik: cannot access `usr/bin/local': No such file or directory
[05:56] <MagicFab> brukental: "enterprise" ?
[05:56] <stevejesus> mustard5:  i just not more than 10 minutes ago added a dvd-rom to my machine to install ut2004.  it doesnt show up in fstab, therefore i dont seem to be able to mount it.
[05:56] <MagicFab> !grub
[05:56] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Yes, csh and tcsh are present. I posted a screenshot of Synaptic showing everything I have installed related to that.  And yes, I do have that file in that directory.
[05:56] <ubotu> grub is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:56] <davidleeroth> can anyone help me with a clock problem
[05:57] <nemik> jon_ well it was an example. instead of that, put the file/folder you need to be chmodded.....
[05:57] <poofyhair> nemik
[05:57] <poofyhair> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75527
[05:57] <DrZeus> !kpkg
[05:57] <mustard5> stevejesus, hmmmm..I was hoping for an easy question ;)
[05:57] <ubotu> DrZeus: I give up, what is it?
[05:57] <brukental> magicfab: aye, tehre is a enterprise release of ubuntu, ibm just awarded certification for db2, but i cannot find enterprise edition of ubuntu.
[05:57] <jon_> Dunno how to do that. ><
[05:57] <mustard5> stevejesus, hehe..I'm not immediately sure how to proceed
[05:57] <nemik> poofyhair: yes?
[05:57] <[linner] > greetings and salutations :)
[05:57] <brukental> magicfab: dont know if its een released.
[05:57] <stevejesus> mustard5:  do you have a dvdrom in your machine?  if so i could grab the info from your fstab and point that towards my respective device
[05:57] <brukental> jon: chmod 777 nameoffile.bin
[05:58] <mustard5> stevejesus, I do
[05:58] <poofyhair> look at my link
[05:58] <poofyhair> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75527
[05:58] <mustard5> stevejesus, one tick..I'll get it
[05:58] <nemik> thanks poofy
[05:58] <SEJeff> brukental: There is not an "enterprise" version of ubuntu. It is the same stock ubuntu
[05:58] <stevejesus> mustard5:  it would be most helpful if you could share that with me
[05:58] <PrideF> All of my mixers (from alsamixer[gui]  on up) all see the card just fine.  I can even get xmms, vlc to play music or video without complaining (well, they start without complaining, but no sound)
[05:58] <stevejesus> mustard5:  by the way, thanks for your help when i stop in.
[05:58] <brukental> uhhh lemme copy and paste from web site.
[05:58] <sweetjesus> does anyone know a textmode app that i can use to watch the network traffic to and from my pc in real time?
[05:59] <crimsun> darkice
[05:59] <jon_> I'm looking through my filesystem and I probably can just type: computer/bin/chmod
[05:59] <nemik> oh nice
[05:59] <PrideF> everything says it's working, but _zero_ sound
[05:59] <Ep|phany> mustard5 thanks for all the help i relaly appreciate it
[05:59] <mustard5> stevejesus, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4289
[05:59] <mustard5> Ep|phany, np
[05:59] <PrideF> I think perhaps I have been typing so much that the only noise I hear is *click*click*click*click*
[05:59] <brukental> Ubuntu will always be free of charge, and there is no extra fee for the "enterprise edition", we make our very best work available to everyone on the same Free terms.
[05:59] <jah_raztah> how do i change the grub default ubuntu boot screen to a new one?
[05:59] <jon_> sorry: computer/filesystem/bin/chmod
[05:59] <SEJeff> sweetjesus: kismet
[05:59] <MagicFab> brukental: from http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/releases/document_view :
[05:59] <Ep|phany> aw crap now i dont know where it extracted to
[06:00] <sweetjesus> SEJeff: that's textmode?
[06:00] <mustard5> Ep|phany, probably somewhere in ~/ directory
[06:00] <MagicFab> brukental: check "Enterprise releases"
[06:00] <gallonegro__> whats the easiter way to make all torrents i download open with azures, instead of the orignal preinstalled oen?
[06:00] <SEJeff> sweetjesus: I wouldn't have said it if it wasn't
[06:00] <MagicFab> brukental: not out yet I think
[06:00] <Ep|phany> is there a way to serach my computer for a file?
[06:00] <mustard5> Ep|phany, type cd ~/ and then ls
[06:00] <sweetjesus> SEJeff: Cool. Just checking. Thanks!
[06:00] <rain`> stevejesus: ethreal or tcpdump?
[06:00] <[linner] > nalioth: hello stranger
[06:00] <Ep|phany> ah was on the desktop
[06:01] <SEJeff> sweetjesus: Do you use ethernet, or wireless?
[06:01] <mustard5> Ep|phany, there is a search funtion in the Places menu
[06:01] <sweetjesus> SEJeff: ether
[06:01] <Ep|phany> anyways im off
[06:01] <brukental> magicfab: aye, cool thanks, thats what I was thinking.
[06:01] <dducko> Found the one I want, but sold out every where I look..
[06:01] <dducko> http://www.chiefvalue.com/app/productdetails.asp?submit=property&item=14-135-190
[06:01] <nalioth> [linner] : speak of the devil, lol
[06:01] <[linner] > ???
[06:01] <[linner] > :)
[06:01] <SEJeff> sweetjesus: ok, kismet is your best bet
[06:01] <[linner] > nalioth: how are you my mentor?
[06:01] <[linner] > :)
[06:01] <sweetjesus> SEJeff: word up. Getting it now...
[06:01] <jon_> Grrrr...this is pissing me off.
[06:01] <brukental> jon: you cannot find chmod?
[06:01] <stevejesus> mustard5:  oh so it looks like the info for a dvdrom is the same as a cdrom.  boy, i guess i could have just copied and pasted another entry and point it a hdd!
[06:01] <_Dez> where do i put ifconfig ra0 up | dhclient ra0 so it automaticly does it?
[06:02] <brukental> jon: chmod should work np
[06:02] <jon_> I can find it on the dictionary but Terminal is giving me BS that it cannot find it.
[06:02] <cafuego_> _Dez: Nowhere. Add a stanza for ra0 to /etc/network/interfaces
[06:02] <mustard5> stevejesus, give it a go anyway ;)
[06:02] <MagicFab> Too bad daidlee left - found a possible solution!
[06:02] <bur[n] er> _Dez: you don't do that so much as you make a good /etc/network/interfaces file
[06:02] <sweetjesus> SEJeff: say, Synaptic says kismet is for wireless
[06:02] <brukental> jon: gimme a sec.
[06:02] <mustard5> stevejesus, you can always remove it or edit it :D
[06:02] <PrideF> MagicFab, really?  where...the clock thing?
[06:02] <jon_> Sure.
[06:03] <MagicFab> sweetjesus: ethereal ?
[06:03] <rain`> jon_: do "whereis chmod"
[06:03] <SEJeff> MagicFab: ethereal isn't console based
[06:03] <jon_> ethereal: like a ghost
[06:03] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Did you see my last post?  Thanks for helping!
[06:03] <MagicFab> PrideF: yes - it's a documented bug in 2.6.10 kernels
[06:03] <_Dez> bur[n] er can you explain in privmsg?
[06:03] <MagicFab> Amiracle: nope
[06:03] <sweetjesus> MagicFab: I'd prefer to find something in textmode if I can. I do know about Ethereal though. :)
[06:03] <PrideF> 2.6.10 +?
[06:03] <jon_> cool got it :D
[06:03] <SEJeff> sweetjesus: Sorry, I do lots of wireless hacking :-)
[06:03] <holycow> *hmmm*
[06:03] <mustard5> stevejesus, I wonder whether sudo fdisk -l will list your dvd
[06:03] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Yes, csh and tcsh are present. I posted a screenshot of Synaptic showing everything I have installed related to that.  And yes, I do have that file in that directory.
[06:03] <oscarello> hi, I made an account on ubuntu, so that it could send me some cds... now I have the and I have finished givinig them away.. but when I try to login I can't... Ive tried with all my emails (I just have 3)  but it doesnt enter
[06:03] <bur[n] er> _Dez: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%2Fetc%2Fnetwork%2Finterfaces&btnG=Google+Search
[06:04] <SEJeff> sweetjesus: tethereal
[06:04] <bolbol> hi, just ordered 10 cds from ubuntu ..are there really free? thanks! just wanna try linux, been scared and tired using win95
[06:04] <jon_> now just right 'chmod 777 and the path?'
[06:04] <linuxusr50> jon_   Try   which chmod and it will show you the directory the binary located in.
[06:04] <MagicFab> Amiracle: ok, just saw it
[06:04] <holycow> mozilla totem plugin is playing a stream now, weird.  not working exactly correct but its not really taking up any cpu time
[06:04] <holycow> thats interesting
[06:04] <DrZeus> MagicFab, Im compiling now; brb
[06:04] <sweetjesus> SEJeff: np. Ah yes. tethereal....
[06:04] <mustard5> stevejesus, naaah.I just tried it :D
[06:04] <MagicFab> oscarello: make another one
[06:04] <_Dez> Thx bur[n] er <3
[06:04] <jon_> Sweet brb lemme try.
[06:04] <Ron_o> ubuntu cds are free.
[06:04] <oscarello> MagicFab, ok  then..
[06:04] <dazvid> Hello world\n
[06:04] <oscarello> thx
[06:04] <jon_> Yeah it did.
[06:04] <MagicFab> bolbol: if you just wanted to try it yourself use those CDs carefully
[06:05] <thewayofzen> anyone able to help me resolve this:
[06:05] <thewayofzen> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[06:05] <MagicFab> bolbol: perhaps donate to a local library instead of passing around
[06:05] <rain`> linuxusr50: whereis works also, as I said
[06:05] <stevejesus> mustard5:  more bad luck for me.  you know, fedora always updated the fstab for me.  and i do sort of miss kudzo
[06:05] <MagicFab> DrZeus: will be waiting
[06:05] <jon_> Now just manually go into the file and change it? I tried writing the path and terminal and it isn't working.
[06:05] <linuxusr50> sorry rain.  missed your post while typing mine.
[06:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell thewayofzen about gpgerr
[06:05] <MagicFab> Amiracle: can you try executing those commands manually ?
[06:05] <mustard5> stevejesus, I've only ever been an ubuntu person...so I'm ignorant of other distros
[06:06] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  to the rescue again. thanks.
[06:06] <stevejesus> mustard5:  otherwise ubuntu is being very nice to me.  still not as finetuned as fedora, but apt-get is certainly a better tool than yum, and i am also learning that debs are a lot better managed than roms!  but this is also due to apt-get
[06:06] <_Dez> bur[n] er do i just put ifconfig ra0 up then dhclient ra0
[06:06] <rain`> !gpgerror
[06:06] <ubotu> rain`: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:06] <jon_> I'm in the propertys of chmod, if I change it there will it work?
[06:06] <stevejesus> mustard5:  not roms "rpms" lol
[06:07] <jon_> properties*
[06:07] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Tried typing bsd-csh and I get just # waiting for commands
[06:07] <mustard5> stevejesus,  :)
[06:07] <sweetjesus> SEJeff: rock. I have tethereal now. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks again.
[06:07] <Amiracle> MagicFab: I'd need a little help that direction
[06:07] <SEJeff> sweetjesus, : np
[06:07] <Melissa83> Has anyone here tried installing Ubuntu 5.10 on a laptop with a Turion64/ATI Xpress 200M chipset?
[06:07] <jon_> WTF? It's saying I am not root, how can I access the root account?
[06:07] <bur[n] er> _Dez: no... look at the other examples in there and adapt it accordingly
[06:08] <SEJeff> jon_: sudo -s
[06:08] <jon_> sudo?
[06:08] <SEJeff> ubotu, tell jon_ about rootsudo
[06:08] <bur[n] er> !tell jon_ about sudo
[06:08] <mustard5> Melissa83, you worried about compatibility?
[06:08] <Melissa83> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root
[06:08] <oscarello> sudo su
[06:08] <jon_> K thanks brb
[06:08] <MagicFab> thewayofzen: try this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/10/msg01283.html
[06:08] <SEJeff> oscarello: sudo -s is the best way to do it
[06:09] <nalioth> ScislaC: please dont advise that
[06:09] <oscarello> SEJeff, whats the differnece  betwen sudo -s and sudo su?
[06:09] <Melissa83> mustard5: Well, i ran the install, it seemed to go OK, but on first boot, X fails to load. I've reconfigured it several times, looked through the error log, and looked all over google/FAQ sites and haven't found much of anything useful. This seems SEMI - useful but.... well, i'm still lost http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74274
[06:09] <nalioth> oscarello: please dont advise that
[06:09] <SEJeff> oscarello: sudo su goes through pam and the login process twice.
[06:09] <MagicFab> Amiracle: I am talking about the cups.... long command names
[06:09] <oscarello> ohh sorry
[06:09] <tsume> SEJeff: yep, its up now :)
[06:09] <sweetjesus> is sudo an ubuntu only thing? or will I find sudo in other *nix os'es too?
[06:09] <tsume> SEJeff: this rocks :)
[06:09] <SEJeff> oscarello: sudo su makes it slower than sudo -s
[06:09] <tsume> sweetjesus: sudo is software
[06:09] <jah_raztah> how do i change the grub default ubuntu boot screen to a new one?
[06:09] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Oh, you mean setting up the cups drivers manually??
[06:10] <tsume> sweetjesus: a distro is software placed together witht he linux kernel
[06:10] <Melissa83> had to find sudo -s earlier when i was trying to open the gdm.conf file and look at it, hehe. I was like "wtf?! i don't remember setting a root pw!"
[06:10] <nalioth> sweetjesus: sudo works in all unices
[06:10] <tsume> sweetjesus: sudo is a seperate project from ubuntu
[06:10] <nalioth> sweetjesus: you may have to enable it, tho
[06:10] <MagicFab> Amiracle: yes
[06:10] <tsume> sweetjesus: sudo is a addon, its not in base
[06:10] <Amiracle> MagicFab: I could, but I honestly don't know what difference that would make.  Do you have any idea why I am getting the error on the csh line?
[06:10] <jah_raztah> anyone?
[06:10] <sweetjesus> nalioth: cool. that's what I wanted to know.
[06:10] <M0nk3yB0y> Hello
[06:10] <SEJeff> Amiracle: do you have to have csh?
[06:10] <jah_raztah> how do i change the grub default ubuntu boot screen to a new one?
[06:11] <n0odl3> does anyone use pypanel?
[06:11] <SEJeff> Amiracle: Is that a requirement of the script
[06:11] <mustard5> Melissa83, do you have access to the machine?
[06:11] <MagicFab> Amiracle: that would give you more details on the error than just "not found"
[06:11] <SEJeff> Amiracle: if not, change it to bash
[06:11] <Amiracle> SEJeff: Yeah, csh or tcsh
[06:11] <john__> can someone direct me to a howto for recompiling a kernel under ubuntu.  every time i tried i get a kernel panic..
[06:11] <ubuntu> who can help me with an Ubuntu doubt ?
[06:11] <ubuntu> who can help me with an Ubuntu doubt ?
[06:11] <nalioth> ubuntu: please dont repeat
[06:11] <MagicFab> Amiracle: use this syntax:  "./command"
[06:11] <rain`> nalioth: LOL
[06:11] <Melissa83> mustard5: It seems as though my problem is specifically related to the ATI chipset in my laptop (if you want to see the exact specs, checkout http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7367878&type=product&id=1125465158282 )
[06:11] <sweetjesus> engrish.com
[06:11] <Melissa83> mustard5: yes, it's sitting right next to me
[06:11] <jon_> I went into terminal and typed it gksudo gedit then a window opened and terminal showed this: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[06:12] <n0odl3> or does anyone know how to use python?
[06:12] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  your method worked flawlessly as always thanks again.
[06:12] <M0nk3yB0y> I was discussing running Ubuntu on my servers insteed of Debian? A friend said it's a bad idea... but without giving me specifics. What's the real dea?
[06:12] <rain`> n0odl3: #python ?
[06:12] <mustard5> Melissa83, I'd like to peruse the xorg.conf in pastebin http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:12] <pc22> thanks
[06:12] <nalioth> thewayofzen: ubotu is the know-it-all
[06:12] <_Dez> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:12] <[linner] > tritium: hi sweetie :)
[06:12] <mustard5> Melissa83, I suppose that going to be hard though :D
[06:12] <MagicFab> M0nk3yB0y: from what I've read server installs of Ubuntu use somewhat older packages - nalioth can u confirm ?
[06:12] <gwidion> Hi there!
[06:12] <tsume> my favorite activity
[06:12] <gwidion> I am having an issue with Ubuntu and raid 1
[06:12] <tsume> watch movies on the 19" monitor, and code on the other
[06:12] <tsume> yip
[06:12] <_Dez> if i put this in my /interfaces iface eth0 inet dhcp will this automaticly do everything for me?
[06:12] <tsume> :)
[06:12] <sweetjesus> linner = lunch + dinner?
[06:13] <SEJeff> jon_, try sudo xhost localhost
[06:13] <[linner] > sweetjesus: you got it kiddo
[06:13] <mustard5> Melissa83, what drivers is it using according to xorg.conf now?
[06:13] <M0nk3yB0y> Older then the Desktop Version
[06:13] <nalioth> MagicFab: not so. the 'server' option on an ubuntu install cd is as up to date as anything else, just has no X
[06:13] <Amiracle> MagicFab: If I use that syntax I get "bad interpreter: Permission denied"
[06:13] <Amiracle> MacFab: Regarding the /bin/csh
[06:13] <sweetjesus> [linner] : yay.
[06:13] <[linner] > sweetjesus: actually  i made it that way because i was building a linux box during dinner... so really it's linux + dinner
[06:13] <jon_> Whats that? Is that where I type is sudo chown example' ?
[06:13] <SEJeff> Amiracle: can you put the script on a pastebin?
[06:13] <M0nk3yB0y> nalioth: Thx
[06:13] <sweetjesus> [linner] : that's commitment.
[06:13] <Amiracle> SEJeff: sure
[06:13] <jah_raztah> anyone have nay idea how do i change the grub default ubuntu boot screen to a new one on breezy?
[06:13] <gwidion> So, it looks like the raid1 module is not in the initrd.img - taht gives me nasty error messages when the FSs have to be checked. I need help getting the raid1 module into the initrd.img.
[06:13] <Melissa83> mustard5: Mind a PM? I'm having a hard time parsing through all of this, hehe
[06:14] <_Dez> tsume were you talking to me?
[06:14] <Melissa83> mustard5: I'm also bringin the laptop up now so that i can open it up again
[06:14] <FR500> jah_raztah, afaik grub doesn't come with a boot screen
[06:14] <MagicFab> nalioth: hmpf! actually heard that at UBZ!
[06:14] <nalioth> jah_raztah: please wait a few minutes between repeating the same question. we are not ignoring you, we just dont know your answer
[06:14] <tsume> _Dez: did i? sorry
[06:14] <mustard5> Melissa83, /join #kubuntu-offtopic plz
[06:14] <n0odl3> rain`: how do i set up a program using python
[06:14] <[linner] > sweetjesus: why not do two things you love at once...  :)
[06:14] <n0odl3> rain`: pypanel needs to be set up usin python
[06:14] <jon_> So is there anyway I can just find the 'root' password?
[06:14] <rain`> n0odl3: i have no idea
[06:14] <MagicFab> nalioth: can u help Amiracle ? I am almost guessing stuff
[06:15] <nalioth> MagicFab: help them with what?
[06:15] <FR500> jon_, root login is disabled
[06:15] <FR500> jon_, i think you gotta enable it in grub
[06:15] <michael_turley> hi, all.  where should I go to find help with firefox on ubuntu?
[06:15] <pppoe_dude> does jabber save conact list?
[06:15] <jon_> Alright, so i'll reboot. How do I do that?
[06:16] <gwidion> FR500, jon_ no need for that.
[06:16] <SEJeff> jon_: sudo shutdown -r now
[06:16] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to use python to set up a prograM?
[06:16] <[linner] > does anyone know if official breezy fixed the broadcom wireless problem???
[06:16] <gwidion> jon_ just do sudo  passwd
[06:16] <M0nk3yB0y> I've been running Debian for the last four years and I have to say I'm very impressed with Ubuntu... So if any of the maitainers or project cordiantor are listening... GOOD JOB!
[06:16] <SEJeff> n0odl3: /j #python
[06:16] <gwidion> and create a password for root.
[06:16] <jon_> Alright, wait? sudo is the password?
[06:16] <nalioth> michael_turley: ask your question here
[06:16] <Amiracle> SEJeff: Done
[06:16] <pppoe_dude> jon_: by default, ubuntu comes with the root account disabled
[06:16] <michael_turley> thanks, nalioth
[06:16] <pppoe_dude> jon_, google it and you will find more info
[06:16] <jon_> Alright.
[06:16] <gwidion> jon_ : no need to reboot - are you there?
[06:16] <SEJeff> Amiracle: I kind of need a URL
[06:16] <nicholaspaul> nalioth: i'm really baffled by my lack of connection sharing :(
[06:16] <michael_turley> i can't get firefox to start unless i
[06:17] <tsume> wow
[06:17] <gwidion> jon_: no, sudo is the command to issue root commands without a root password.
[06:17] <michael_turley> unless i'm sudo'ed
[06:17] <nalioth> nicholaspaul: you're baffling me too
[06:17] <FR500> jon_, he mean, type "sudo passwd"
[06:17] <tsume> now using gnome and KDE on a dual seems to pathetic
[06:17] <Amiracle> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4290
[06:17] <MagicFab> jah_raztah: try this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/10/msg01283.html
[06:17] <tsume> I think I'll start using fluxbox again
[06:17] <markw> so am I pushing my luck?
[06:17] <jon_> Ohhh!! Great, this clears everything up
[06:17] <Amiracle> nalioth: Check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4290
[06:17] <SEJeff> tsume: meh, use openbox
[06:17] <nicholaspaul> nalioth: esp. as my install is new, and i've tried everything. I think.  i dunno. perhaps a few days sleep will help.
[06:17] <nicholaspaul> well nalioth i'm heading to bed - see ya soon.
[06:17] <jon_> Wooo! There we go.
[06:17] <michael_turley> i click the icon, or find it under "applications" and get the taskbar box that says "starting firefox" but it never launches
[06:17] <pppoe_dude> so does jabber save your contact list? say if you log in from a different location?
[06:18] <gwidion> Anyone can help modifying the contents of initrd.img without recompiling the kernel?
[06:18] <jon_> You guys rock :D Soo...I think i'm just going to pick up 'Linux in a nutshell' at the bookstore.
[06:18] <MagicFab> pppoe_dude: yes jabber saves it
[06:18] <freefaller> I just installed 5.1 and I can't add multiverse or universe to the "update manager"
[06:18] <gwidion> jon_ beware - certain books are _quite_ outdated.
[06:19] <michael_turley> i can't figure out this problem because it didn't happen until a few days ago, weeks after installing ubuntu
[06:19] <crimsun> gwidion: you can always do that without recompiling the entire kernel. Just use mkinitramfs.
[06:19] <jon_> Yeah, i'll make sure to buy a newer copy.
[06:19] <pppoe_dude> freefaller, try adding deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
[06:19] <MagicFab> michael_turley: weird. have you tried re-installing it ?
[06:19] <nalioth> freefaller: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list as detailed here
[06:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell freefaller about repos
[06:20] <MagicFab> Amiracle: sorry, can't help you much more
[06:20] <jon_> Tell you this, even though I had to go through hell just to figure out something I still like Linux better than Wind0ws
[06:20] <[linner] > let me see if i can rephrase my question... is anyone else having broadcom wireless problems?
[06:20] <gwidion> crimsun: But I would need a compiled-kernel tree for that don't I? I just wnat to mount or otherwise chaneg the files in there.
[06:20] <michael_turley> yes, in the synaptic package manager?
[06:20] <Amiracle> MagicFab: Thanks for trying, I really appreciate that!
[06:20] <crimsun> gwidion: no, you don't
[06:20] <pppoe_dude> jon_, soon you'll start hating other things too... like stupid companies who dont make drivers for linux
[06:20] <MagicFab> [linner] : which specific problem did you refer to first ? I have broadcom w/o problems
[06:20] <jon_> Lol, like whom? Gentoo? Fedora?
[06:20] <michael_turley> i've reinstalled it, but never uninstalled it before doing so because it says it'll take my ubuntu-desktop, too.
[06:21] <SEJeff> pppoe_dude: don't hate them man. Pester them. Find their contact email addresses and phone numbers. If enough people ask them, they will start supporting linux
[06:21] <nalioth> Amiracle: may i assume you've installed or checked the funtion of csh?
[06:21] <pppoe_dude> jon_, oh no, like ca*on, so*y, etc.
[06:21] <[linner] > MagicFab: I have a new compaq laptop with a broadcom wireless and have NEVER been able to get it to work
[06:21] <jon_> Oh
[06:21] <gwidion> crimsun: Ok - so, the problem I am having is I had set up raid 1, and at the time the system wants to fsck at boot, it doesn't have the raid 1 ready - I suppose this can be fixed by putting the raid1 module inside initrd.img, right?
[06:21] <MagicFab> michael_turley: it's not bad if you remove ubuntu-desktop, as long as you reinstall it
[06:21] <Amiracle> nalioth: Yep, csh and tcsh are all installed
[06:21] <michael_turley> i'm new enough to linux to fear removing the desktop...
[06:21] <MagicFab> michael_turley: just note which packages are being uninstalled
[06:21] <nalioth> Amiracle: in your console, type "csh" <enter> and then try the script
[06:22] <michael_turley> what do I use to reinstall it?
[06:22] <freefaller> ppoe_dude:  I tried and I get "error unable to get exclusive lock" ???
[06:22] <MagicFab> michael_turley: it doesn't remove the desktop
[06:22] <pppoe_dude> SEJeff, not from my experience... "Hi sir, how can I help you" "Hi I have linux blahblahblah" "Oh sorry sir, we can't continue this conversation any further..."
[06:22] <SEJeff> [linner] : install ndisgtk and then load the windows driver for your card
[06:22] <jon_> pppoe_dude : Alright I got passed the password thing and now to install it says : Change to the directory in which you want installed. What does that mean?
[06:22] <dazvid> Im trying to capture some video from my DV camera using Kino (through a 1394 cable) and it states that IEEE 1394 subsystem is not enabled. So how can I get this thing working?
[06:22] <SEJeff> pppoe_dude: No, ask them when they are going to support it
[06:22] <Amiracle> Well, my console doesn't understand csh, that's the problem.  It does understand bsd-csh though.
[06:22] <[linner] > SEJeff: what is ndis?  is that the wrapper?
[06:22] <MagicFab> michael_turley: ubuntu-desktop is a "meta-package" that ensures other packages get installed as a whole (using dependencies)
[06:22] <nalioth> freefaller: you have too many apt-gets open
[06:22] <SEJeff> pppoe_dude: Call sales, not tech
[06:22] <nalioth> Amiracle: something is wonky
[06:23] <michael_turley> so goto synaptic, tell it uninstall, then reinstall from there, too?
[06:23] <pppoe_dude> SEJeff, maybe i should
[06:23] <_Dez> wireless-essid any Will this make it conenct to any ??
[06:23] <freefaller> nalioth:  none, just the update manager window
[06:23] <nalioth> Amiracle: sudo apt-get install csh
[06:23] <glick> harvey birdman attorny at law is hilarious
[06:23] <SEJeff> [linner] : ndiswrapper is the only way to get broadcomm cards to work in linux. It uses the windows drivers
[06:23] <jon_> Where in general do I want to install things, thats kind of what I ment.
[06:23] <[linner] > SEJeff: i tried that prior to the breezy release and lord know it didn't work for me... that's why i had to uninstall it and put windoze back on
[06:23] <SEJeff> [linner] : ndisgtk is a gui that makes ndiswrapper easy to use for someone who isn't a shell scripting monkey
[06:23] <Amiracle> nalioth: If I use bsd-csh and ./command I get "Permission Denied"
[06:23] <nalioth> SEJeff: [linner]  runs a powerpc
[06:23] <MagicFab> michael_turley: yes
[06:23] <pppoe_dude> jon_, what was the problem sorry??
[06:23] <crimsun> gwidion: google probably has more clue than I do, sorry.
[06:23] <nalioth> Amiracle: install 'csh' using apt-get
[06:23] <[linner] > nalioth: no I don't...
[06:23] <SEJeff> nalioth: windows on ppc?
[06:23] <michael_turley> will I be able to stay on here as I do so?
[06:23] <nalioth> [linner] : you dont?
[06:24] <[linner] > nalioth: I have an AMD Turion 64 on a Compaq.... how quickly we forget! :)
[06:24] <jon_> Alright, now it's saying I need to install it to a directory path name. Where should I install programs?
[06:24] <M0nk3yB0y> Is anyone running Ubuntu for their servers?
[06:24] <Amiracle> nalioth: apt-get install csh - nothing new, upgraded, or installed
[06:24] <[linner] > SEJeff: No... don't listen to him... about my machine :)
[06:24] <gwidion> crimsun: Thank you anyway - I have a starting point. I could not get to mkinitramfs in google prior to getting here.
[06:24] <MagicFab> M0nk3yB0y: yes
[06:24] <tsume> M0nk3yB0y: I had a hoary server, but it was a bit of a pain for what I needed it for
[06:24] <Amiracle> nalioth: It says it's there
[06:24] <JaMiNkLe> does snes9x even work on ubuntu
[06:24] <white_lightning> does anyone have ANY expirience with America's Army on a 64-bit installation?
[06:24] <tsume> M0nk3yB0y: though my setups are extreme
[06:25] <SEJeff> JaMiNkLe, zsnes does. And it is much better
[06:25] <tsume> M0nk3yB0y: i hve to compile everything anyway :) Ubuntu is great for a server
[06:25] <pppoe_dude> jon_, are you compiling something?
[06:25] <JaMiNkLe> i need a ppc version and zsnes isent
[06:25] <michael_turley> MagicFab: can I stay on this chat channel as I uninstall and reinstall firefox?
[06:25] <MagicFab> michael_turley: yes
[06:25] <jon_> I have no clue, I just downloaded the (self-extracting) linux file from Java.com
[06:26] <pppoe_dude> jon_, OH
[06:26] <_Dez> how would i add no acpi to grub ??
[06:26] <Amiracle> nalioth: A little background - If I go to localhost:631, my printer is recognized and is set to it's USB port.  The CUPS driver is recognized but the printer won't print.  I think it all goes back to this csh business.
[06:26] <jon_> :)
[06:26] <pppoe_dude> jon_, install it to /opt/java
[06:26] <white_lightning> does anyone have ANY expirience with America's Army on a 64-bit installation?
[06:26] <white_lightning> Cheat protection disabled
[06:26] <white_lightning> WARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!
[06:26] <white_lightning> Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[06:26] <MagicFab> michael_turley: unless you're using chatzilla like me
[06:26] <M0nk3yB0y> We are getting a bunch of new AMD64 servers this month... and since Debian doesn't have an "Official Build" for AMD64 I'm thinking about putting on Ubuntu insteed
[06:26] <jon_> usr/java won't work?
[06:26] <tga> good idea, linux should come in a self-extracting file
[06:26] <pppoe_dude> jon_, or any directory for that matter
[06:26] <nalioth> white_lightning: please dont paste
[06:26] <[linner] > SEJeff: ok... so apt-get ndisgtk right?
[06:26] <pppoe_dude> jon_, youll have to add it to path later anyway
[06:26] <[linner] > SEJeff: then do what?
[06:26] <SEJeff> [linner] : Yes
[06:26] <michael_turley> MagicFab: I'm using the X-chat.  I don't think that's dependent on Firefox.
[06:26] <tga> M0nk3yB0y, are they Sun Galaxies? :)
[06:26] <jon_> Thats what i'm doing now. It wants a directory path.
[06:26] <nalioth> Amiracle: without being able to log into a csh shell, i'm lost
[06:26] <M0nk3yB0y> No Penguin Computing
[06:26] <z3r0x> has anybody installed google map on linux?
[06:27] <MagicFab> michael_turley: X-chat is ok - go!
[06:27] <[linner] > z3r0x: I didn't know that you could...
[06:27] <pppoe_dude> jon_, you can install it to any directory, and then put it in the $PATH so programs can find it without looking
[06:27] <SEJeff> [linner] : It puts a menu entry somewhere under System --> Administration --> Windows Wireless Drivers
[06:27] <_Dez> how would i add no acpi to grub ??
[06:27] <tga> z3r0x, you can't 'install' Google Maps
[06:27] <michael_turley> MagicFab: I'll give it a try...  but before I do...  there's no chance this'll trash my data directories on my second and third HDDs, right?
[06:27] <z3r0x> [linner] , is only for linux
[06:27] <[linner] > SEJeff: define "it"
[06:27] <MagicFab> z3r0x: unless you mean Google Earth
[06:27] <z3r0x> [linner] , sorry I mean for windows
[06:27] <Amiracle> nalioth: Yeah it's crazy.  If I type in csh <enter>: bash: csh: command not found
[06:27] <jon_> K, so just type in usr/java
[06:27] <z3r0x> MagicFab, ups yes google earth
[06:27] <[linner] > z3r0x: oh okay
[06:28] <pppoe_dude> jon_, yes "/usr/java"
[06:28] <Amiracle> nalioth: Thanks for your help though, it's appreciated!
[06:28] <tga> z3r0x, that's Google Earth and there is no Linux version.. try wine maybe
[06:28] <_Dez> where do i edit the motd ??
[06:28] <jon_> 'No such file or dictionary' damn.
[06:28] <MagicFab> z3r0x: I'd suggest a virtual machine using qemu and Win2K
[06:28] <tga> _Dez, /etc/motd
[06:28] <pppoe_dude> _Dez, /etc/motd
[06:28] <z3r0x> I tried it with crossover office but it didn't work
[06:28] <pppoe_dude> jon_, create it then install in it
[06:28] <tga> z3r0x, then there's probably no easy way to get it working
[06:28] <SEJeff> [linner] : it as in apt-get install ndisgtk
[06:28] <jon_> The example shows to put it in cd...then go to cd/usr/java
[06:28] <MagicFab> tga: wine won't get you far
[06:28] <MagicFab> tga: at least not w/ GE
[06:28] <[linner] > SEJeff: ok...
[06:28] <JaMiNkLe> does qemu work with ppc linux?
[06:28] <nalioth> Amiracle: try installing csh with synaptic
[06:29] <tga> MagicFab, heh, then I guess you're SOL
[06:29] <nalioth> JaMiNkLe: it does
[06:29] <z3r0x> tga, hm ok :) I don't wanna use this windows crap
[06:29] <JaMiNkLe> :O
[06:29] <tga> z3r0x, I don't think you have much choice here
[06:29] <[linner] > SEJeff: If you say it works... then I'll try reinstalling again.
[06:29] <Amiracle> nalioth: it's installed
[06:29] <MagicFab> JaMiNkLe: I don't see why it wouldn't
[06:29] <SEJeff> [linner] : I have seen it work on 2 laptops I worked on
[06:29] <Amiracle> nalioth: I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it too
[06:29] <[linner] > SEJeff: were they NEW?
[06:30] <pppoe_dude> jon_, r you using the .bin file?
[06:30] <n0odl3> how do i uncompress a tgz file?
[06:30] <[linner] > I mean like July 2005 new...
[06:30] <MagicFab> tga: SOL ?
[06:30] <n0odl3> dont i use gzip -d?
[06:30] <SEJeff> [linner] : But you will need to have a copy of the windows drivers with the inf
[06:30] <jon_> pppoe_dude : Yes
[06:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about cli
[06:30] <SEJeff> [linner] : hp zd7000 series
[06:30] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, gunzip <file> then tar -xvf <file.tar>
[06:30] <[linner] > SEJeff: I have that... not a problem
[06:30] <nalioth> n0odl3: if you read this stuff, you'll become more powerful
[06:30] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, theres also a one liner
[06:30] <SEJeff> [linner] : You should be good then
[06:30] <n0odl3> thank you nalioth
[06:30] <[linner] > SEJeff: ok... i'll give it a whirl especially since compaq generally = hp
[06:30] <[linner] > SEJeff: if it work dude, you're my hero
[06:30] <n0odl3> ppope_dude: cant i just pipe it?
[06:30] <[linner] > SEJeff: ANd by the way, I'm a girl :)
[06:30] <MagicFab> z3r0x: qemu is not quick to install, but easy if you follow the docs
[06:30] <michael_turley> MagicFab: firefox is uninstalled now...
[06:30] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, I think theres a tar-xzvf or something
[06:31] <nalioth> Amiracle: and when you type "bsd-csh" <enter> nothing happens?
[06:31] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, i never use it though...
[06:31] <[linner] > ok guys i'm off so i can try to REinstall breezy....
[06:31] <jon_> can I just create a programs file and install my programs to usr/programs/program dictionary ?
[06:31] <[linner] > be back afterwhile :)
[06:31] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, better do it in two steps coz the filename chages
[06:31] <Amiracle> nalioth: Oh no, then I get my csh command line
[06:31] <z3r0x> MagicFab, ok.... I found this -> Wine, as a Win32 API implementation for Unix, is useful now. You can run IE, Office 2003, Google Earth, ....
[06:31] <[linner] > SEJeff: thanks again!
[06:31] <MagicFab> z3r0x: I mean, creating the operating system (Win2K for example) is the long part
[06:31] <tga> MagicFab, sudo apt-get install wtf && wtf sol
[06:31] <nalioth> Amiracle: <sigh>
[06:31] <SEJeff> [linner] : Linux needs more women :-)
[06:31] <tsume> well later people
[06:31] <jon_> lol.
[06:31] <[linner] > SEJeff: why thank you :)
[06:31] <nalioth> Amiracle: run your script FROM that command line
[06:31] <tsume> I guess I didn't need help after all :)
[06:31] <Amiracle> nalioth: did that, no go
[06:31] <JaMiNkLe> lol ill make my gf install linux
[06:31] <n0odl3> oh i found out what went wrong
[06:31] <n0odl3> i was in the wrong dir
[06:32] <MagicFab> z3r0x: every thing I tried with Wine failed for me - but yes, you can try
[06:32] <Amiracle> nalioth: Permission denied
[06:32] <n0odl3> thanx for the help though
[06:32] <nalioth> Amiracle: then your script is screwed
[06:32] <Amiracle> nalioth: And I am in root
[06:32] <dazvid> MagicFab, did you you use wine 0.9.1 ?
[06:32] <nalioth> Amiracle: n/m your script is fine
[06:32] <pppoe_dude> Psi is really good, however, the difficulty lies in making other people use it
[06:32] <nalioth> Amiracle: chmod +x scriptname.sh
[06:32] <michael_turley> MagicFab: now reinstalling firefox.  I didn't close the Synaptic
[06:32] <pppoe_dude> "convincing others"
[06:32] <z3r0x> MagicFab, I'll try first with wine...windows is my last choice
[06:32] <SEJeff> [linner] : you're welcome
[06:32] <michael_turley> MagicFab: and now reinstalling gnome-desktop and those other misc things that went out with the uninstall....
[06:33] <cronik> hi everyone
[06:33] <dazvid> Hello
[06:33] <jon_> can i install it to the home folder and just make a folder in there titled: Programs then install all my progs into there?
[06:33] <SEJeff> jon_: linux doesn't work like that
[06:33] <MagicFab> dazvid: nope - haven't needed to lately
[06:33] <jon_> Oh.
[06:33] <SEJeff> jon_: You can't
[06:33] <z3r0x> I have an other question. always when I try to install a package over apt-get I get this warning: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated
[06:33] <pppoe_dude> SEJeff, it can... if you really want it to
[06:33] <obscurite> Good evening guys. Anyone know how to make evolution send SMTP mail on an alternate port?
[06:33] <theturtl> anyone ever tried qemu versus Vmware 4.x ? i'm using vmware 4 and its ok, but could be faster
[06:34] <Amiracle> nalioth: Still no go
[06:34] <squareff> any reason timidity would work and kmid not?
[06:34] <MagicFab> michael_turley: following you
[06:34] <jon_> So then what? Where do I install my programs too?
[06:34] <obscurite> I only ask here because it's the defacto default mail client on ubuntu :)
[06:34] <pppoe_dude> SEJeff, but i wouldnt be a good way i guess
[06:34] <nalioth> Amiracle: then at this point , i'm out of ideas
[06:34] <SEJeff> pppoe_dude: Lets not get technical. I doubt a newbie wants to learn to do the ./configure && make dance
[06:34] <MagicFab> !gpgerr
[06:34] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[06:34] <SEJeff> pppoe_dude: Putting things in context, it can't
[06:34] <michael_turley> MagicFab:  thanks...  it's taking a long time re-setting up yelp, but doesn't seem to have hung
[06:34] <pppoe_dude> SEJeff, k sorry
[06:34] <obscurite> theturtl - vmware 4.5 and 5 have done very well for me. dont want to pay for the upgrade?
[06:34] <SEJeff> pppoe_dude: But technically, you are correct :-)
[06:34] <MagicFab> theturtl: qemu has an accelerator, but it worked fast enough as it is for me
[06:35] <pppoe_dude> jon_, for the most part, you can use 'synaptic' to install most of the programs
[06:35] <obscurite> I just got vmware workstation running on ubuntu with a helpful webpage that showed me how to use gcc 3.4, link the kernel headers dir, etc
[06:35] <john__> obaueite: did you have to recompile your kernel to get them to work? thats what its telling me to do.
[06:35] <jon_> Alright, so how the hell do I even install it?
[06:35] <obscurite> I also had to use some patch
[06:35] <pppoe_dude> jon_, other programs that let you choose the path are generally better to install in some directory like /opt, so that you have control over the file tree
[06:35] <john__> can u find me tutorial
[06:35] <john__> i been tring and tring
[06:35] <john__> keep getting kernel panic on compiled kernel
[06:36] <john__> =/
[06:36] <john__> booting on sda1
[06:36] <jon_> alright. so i'll just try typing/opt
[06:36] <obscurite> is someone talking to me? lol
[06:36] <pppoe_dude> jon_, try that
[06:36] <markw> created two raid devices, 200mb /boot which was /dev/md0 and 196GB /dev/md1 which I put lvm on top of.
[06:36] <FarrisG> Is there a list of known issues with the fglrx ubuntu package?
[06:36] <n0odl3> is the canada server haveing problems because im getting gpg errors
[06:36] <michael_turley> MagicFab: about how long should yelp take to reinstall?  minutes?  tens of minutes?  more? (2.8ghz celeron, 256MB ram)
[06:36] <markw> the installer wrote /dev/md1 as /boot in fstab.
[06:36] <markw> :(
[06:36] <john__> obsurite?
[06:36] <obscurite> john__ - didn't realize you were talking to me
[06:36] <jon_> oO Nope. No such file or dictionary...all i'm doing is just typing 'opt/' do I need to add anything else like /usr/opt/
[06:37] <obscurite> john__: put my name in front of your msgs so I know
[06:37] <MagicFab> michael_turley: dpeends how fast you're connected/ how big th epackages are
[06:37] <n0odl3> wheere is the sources list again?
[06:37] <pppoe_dude> jon_ you have to type "/opt"
[06:37] <obscurite> john__: let me find that helpful web page
[06:37] <jon_> I did. Nope.
[06:37] <john__> obscurite: im tring to recompile kernel to use vmware..  been having problems.   ok that would be nice.
[06:37] <MagicFab> you can check details of the install
[06:38] <n0odl3>  is it /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:38] <pppoe_dude> jon_, make that directory. go to a terminal, type "sudo mkdir /opt"
[06:38] <FarrisG> Whenever I ctrl+alt+F1 to get a tty, after I'm done and I ctrl+alt+f7, my screen gets some nasty image warping at the top and the system completely freezes, requiring a reboot. I've tried it with more than one ATI card and more than one mobo. Same problem
[06:38] <obscurite> john__: this is what I used http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65638&highlight=vmware
[06:38] <bimberi> n0odl3: yes
[06:38] <Amiracle> nalioth: Thanks for your help.
[06:38] <john__> obscurite: what version of windows you running?
[06:38] <obscurite> john__: I am using default breezy kernel, no probs. had to use a patch though (which is mentoined on that page)
[06:38] <jon_> wtf? it's saying the file does exists, yet when I try to install it says it isn't a dic
[06:38] <MagicFab> FarrisG: instead of going to ctrl+alt+f7 I would issue a "startx" command
[06:38] <obscurite> john__: i run linux guests at this point only
[06:39] <MagicFab> or hit CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[06:39] <pppoe_dude> jon_: you probably had the /'s wrong
[06:39] <pppoe_dude> jon_, or maybe the script is going whack
[06:39] <nalioth> Amiracle: i hate proprietary tainted stuff
[06:39] <michael_turley> MagicFab: Ok...  cable modem, still running.   (never thought I'd like IRC, but I see the appeal tonight, that's for sure)
[06:39] <z0rz> So what's the best vnc server to install on ubuntu?
[06:39] <FarrisG> MagicFab: But I already have X started
[06:40] <jon_> I'm doing exactly what your saying "sude mkdir /opt"
[06:40] <obscurite> So, noone knows how to make Evolution mail use an alternate SMTP port?
[06:40] <jon_> sudo*
[06:40] <MagicFab> FarrisG: why do you go to CTRL-ALT f1
[06:40] <n0odl3> arrgh! gpg errors!
[06:40] <obscurite> How can an advanced mail client not have an option to change SMTP port :)
[06:40] <n0odl3> is it because im using a bad mirror (ca)
[06:40] <pppoe_dude> jon_, yes but in the java installation, did you put /opt too?
[06:40] <MagicFab> n0odl3:
[06:40] <john__> obscurite: your the man!
[06:40] <MagicFab> !gpgerr
[06:40] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[06:40] <bimberi> z0rz: vino is already installed (configured via System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop)
[06:40] <jon_> yep
[06:40] <obscurite> john__: enjoy :)
[06:40] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, you probably need to download the keys
[06:40] <Amiracle> So long, farewell, aufviedersehen nalioth und MagicFab
[06:40] <MagicFab> obscurite: did you try the config files ?
[06:40] <z3r0x> MagicFab, I tried it with wine -> I need a file called c:\windows\system\psapi.dll :(
[06:40] <obscurite> john__: I found a slightly newer patch on that site, rather than the one they mention and it worked fine for m
[06:40] <nalioth> MagicFab: ade
[06:40] <n0odl3> pppoe_dude: what do you need?
[06:41] <MagicFab> Amiracle: don't forget to ask Brother forums about Ubuntu support ;)
[06:41] <obscurite> MagicFab: no, i'll try it thanks
[06:41] <n0odl3> pppoe_dude: i mean what do you mean?
[06:41] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&postid=1908818#post1908818
[06:41] <jon_> 1 sec, during installation I typed just like the example: "cd /opt" and created a new line... so I guessed it worked.
[06:41] <n0odl3> pppoe_dude: my keys were fine until now whats wrong with them?
[06:41] <MagicFab> z3r0x: what you need is a full Windows licence in another partition ;)
[06:41] <MagicFab> z3r0x: lookup the file in google, who knows
[06:41] <MagicFab> nalioth: ade ?
[06:41] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, I don't know, but I had a bit of a problem similar to that before... I had to redownload them and update apt
[06:42] <obscurite> Anyone using xen with ubuntu?
[06:42] <dazvid> How do i enable my Firewire connection for read/write?
[06:42] <michael_turley> MagicFab: what is yelp, anyway?  (I'd check, but the Synaptic package manager is *still* busy)
[06:42] <dazvid> for use with kino video editor ^
[06:42] <n0odl3> thats site does not answer any of my questions
[06:42] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, namely, gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys then apt-key add /root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
[06:42] <n0odl3> why does my keys constatly brake?!
[06:42] <MagicFab> michael_turley: don't know
[06:43] <nalioth> MagicFab: i was told "auf wiedersehen" i responded with an unmarked "ade"
[06:43] <linuxgeek2> hi folks
[06:43] <MagicFab> linuxgeek2: what can we serve you tonight ?
[06:43] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, I don't know. Which one breaks?
[06:44] <michael_turley> MagicFab: I'm not usually impatient, but this is taking far longer than even the update from the "preview" edition of breezy badger
[06:44] <linuxgeek2> I want some Indian food
[06:44] <n0odl3> pppoe_dude: join #flood and ill show ou the message
[06:44] <pppoe_dude> ok
[06:44] <linuxgeek2> Do u serve indian food at the ubuntu restarant MagicFab
[06:44] <linuxgeek2> ?
[06:44] <MagicFab> michael_turley: can you see the details of what it's doing ?
[06:44] <raghu> linuxgeek2: dal sambar
[06:45] <linuxgeek2> haha raghu
[06:45] <raghu> linuxgeek2: yo
[06:45] <linuxgeek2> Not dal sambar, I want chicken biriyani
[06:45] <jon_> pppoe_dude: Alright, I got int /opt now my terminal is like this: root@dffedfd4e: /opt .... now it needs me to create a dictionary for it...so now do I type: cd /opt/usr/java
[06:45] <linuxgeek2> and bacon and eggs for brealfast
[06:45] <linuxgeek2> ?
[06:45] <MagicFab> linuxgeek2: order placed
[06:45] <michael_turley> MagicFab: it now says "dependency problems, leaving unconfigured"
[06:46] <michael_turley> MagicFab: I hope that's only "yelp".   I'm gonna try again.
[06:46] <MagicFab> michael_turley: you need to reinstall the same packages
[06:46] <sizzam> anyone have a linux alternative to 'shortkeys' on windows?
[06:46] <sizzam> keyboard macros basically
[06:46] <linuxgeek2> Wow MagicFab My mouth is begining to water
[06:47] <Cindy> hi
[06:47] <linuxgeek2> MagicFab, Do u server fresh juice at the ubu restuarant too ?
[06:47] <michael_turley> MagicFab: it seems to be coming along now... gnome-desktop requires yelp, so I'm doing yelp first.
[06:47] <Cindy> can  anyone here please help me install this gdm-2.8.0.5 to my ubuntu??
[06:47] <linuxgeek2> What do u have on ut menu MagicFab
[06:47] <linuxgeek2> ?
[06:47] <linuxgeek2> your
[06:47] <silversurfer> why this gdm.
[06:48] <silversurfer> ?
[06:48] <_Dez> is there a editor for IceWM?
[06:48] <Cindy> how can i install it?
[06:48] <MagicFab> linuxgeek2: nope - that would be at #offtopic-tropicaljuices ;)
[06:48] <obscurite> Any evolution gurus happen to know offhand where the config is to set a custom SMTP port? :)
[06:48] <raghu> Cindy: it is apt-get what is the problem?
[06:48] <nalioth> linuxgeek2: MagicFab y'all talk food in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:48] <obscurite> (Yes, I am being a lazy SOB)
[06:48] <Cindy> apt-get --purge my gdm then i want to reinstall it
[06:49] <tga> obscurite, in the smtp window?
[06:49] <silversurfer> dpkg -i gdm....
[06:49] <Cindy> apt-get --purge remove<--- i mean
[06:49] <raghu> Cindy: it is apt-get insatll gdm
[06:49] <obscurite> tga: Hmm, I think I checked every darn option
[06:49] <silversurfer> not
[06:49] <obscurite> tga: you sure it's there, or are you teasting
[06:49] <obscurite> tga: teasing, rather
[06:49] <linuxgeek2> come to offtopic MagicFab
[06:49] <silversurfer> Use dpkg -i
[06:49] <silversurfer> It's like apt-get
[06:49] <raghu> Cindy: or apt-get install --reinstall gdm
[06:50] <linuxgeek2> Cindy, apt-get reomove gdm to remove gdm
[06:50] <linuxgeek2> and apt-get install gdm
[06:50] <linuxgeek2> ???
[06:50] <linuxgeek2> remove
[06:51] <Cindy> silver it cannot access archive, where im gonna put the archive?
[06:51] <tga> obscurite, funny, it's not there\
[06:51] <regeya> vvvvv
[06:51] <nuck> are there packets that won't be captured by ethereal if its not run as root?
[06:51] <obscurite> tga: no kidding :)
[06:51] <regeya> adsd
[06:51] <tga> nuck, no, unless you specify a filter
[06:52] <FarrisG> Ok, here's another one: Is there a default keyboard shortcut to open up the "Screen Resolution" dialog?
[06:52] <nalioth> nuck: yes, all of em
[06:52] <tga> nuck, oh, if you're *not* root you can't even put the card in promiscuous mode
[06:52] <MagicFab> 'nite all
[06:52] <obscurite> Every google link I check says evolution doesn't allow you to change SMTP port
[06:52] <nuck> so the only way to run ethereal is as root?
[06:53] <MagicFab> obscurite: last resort - port forwarding ?
[06:53] <tga> obscurite, lame
[06:53] <nalioth> nuck: if you want it to work properly, yes
[06:53] <MagicFab> couldn't help it ;)
[06:53] <obscurite> MagicFab: barf
[06:53] <Delvien> Has anyone got their Microsoft Bluetooth mouse's scroll wheel working?
[06:53] <michael_turley> MagicFab: well, the reinstall didn't work..  I'll check here tomorrow.
[06:54] <nuck> i heard you can order ubuntu 5.10 cd for no charge... why? who pays for it?
[06:54] <IGOREKHORROR> Hello people
[06:54] <tga> nuck, you get billed for it next year, with 200% interest
[06:54] <Delvien> nuck if im not mistaken you pay for the cost of the CDr lol
[06:55] <tga> Delvien, ever heard of shipit?
[06:55] <tga> nuck, there's something about that in the shipit faq
[06:55] <nuck> what's 200% of free? :-p
[06:55] <Juhaz> nuck, cd's are practically free to produce in large quantities
[06:55] <tga> they're not free to ship internationally, heh
[06:55] <Delvien> tga nah, i wouldnt order it anyway, i can burn my own copy
[06:56] <pppoe_dude> jon_, mkdir creates directories
[06:56] <obscurite> I may have found a way to change SMTP port in evolution. One sec.
[06:56] <nuck> but someone from here is giving away ubuntu5.10 cds for free says he ordered / got it for free?
[06:56] <nalioth> nuck: shipit.ubuntu.com
[06:57] <nuck> err maybe its some governement conspiracy and they installed spyware on ubuntu
[06:57] <nuck> he he
[06:57] <bigcoffee> .....
[06:58] <nprice> say i did a server install, what's the name of the virtual package(s) that i need to install to install all the normal GNOME desktop components?  I wanted to put 5.10 on but I only had a 5.04 CD so i figured i'd just do a server install and pull the rest from apt
[06:58] <nuck> the problem with ubuntu is it depends on the goodwill of people to make it going... what if the good people get tired?
[06:58] <Juhaz> they're shipping those discs simply because they want people to use ubuntu
[06:58] <nalioth> nprice: "ubuntu-desktop"
[06:58] <Kyral> nprice, ubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <Kyral> and now I sleep
[06:58] <nprice> thanks
[06:59] <SEJeff> nuck: How does it depend on people? Mark shuttleworth gave 10 million dollars to the Ubuntu Foundation to keep it going
[06:59] <SEJeff> nuck: 10 million dollars will keep it going for some time
[06:59] <nprice> been using freebsd and solaris for too long
[06:59] <nprice> heh
[06:59] <bluestrain> nuck: do some googling for interviews with Mark Shuttleworth.  You will find good answers.
[06:59] <nuck> where can i give another 10million?
[06:59] <obscurite> Okay, why they don't tell you this I don't know. You just add :PORT to the host name in the sending mail section for server name.
[07:00] <Delvien> nuck can i have 10 million ?:P
[07:00] <nuck> 10 million praises for job well done that is he he :-)
[07:00] <Delvien> anyone solve the MS bluetooth mouse scroll wheel bug yet?
[07:01] <linuxgeek2> Hi folks is ubotu a bot
[07:01] <pc22> how do i install w32 codec
[07:01] <linuxgeek2> ?
[07:01] <linuxgeek2> ubotu?
[07:01] <Delvien> yes geek
[07:01] <nuck> any chance ubuntu foundation can solicit financial help from bill gates?
[07:01] <cef> *sigh* damn evolution is a sucky program
[07:01] <SEJeff> nprice: the package name you want is gnome-desktop-environment and ubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <Delvien> a memory hog too
[07:01] <linuxgeek2> Delvien, can I command it to give me some howto links in wiki.ubuntu.org
[07:01] <nuck> ubotu is a bot? gosh i was picking a fight with it a while ago
[07:01] <ubotu> nuck: Do they come in packets of five?
[07:01] <linuxgeek2> ?
[07:02] <bluestrain> and those are evolution's good points
[07:02] <nuck> shut up ubotu
[07:02] <SEJeff> nuck: no, because Mark founded it
[07:02] <Delvien> linuxgeek2 yeah say things like !restrictedformats and stuff
[07:02] <linuxgeek2> Delvien, How do I do that ?
[07:02] <Delvien> linuxgeek2 just type it
[07:02] <concept10> it seems that all popular applications are memory hogs, evolution, firefox, thunderbird, etc
[07:02] <n0odl3> which lines do i uncomment to activate the multiverse/ universe?
[07:02] <cef> bluestrain: yeah.. I have a message that is crashing evo... in an imap mailbox
[07:02] <Delvien> !restrictedformats
[07:02] <ubotu> restrictedformats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[07:02] <Mabus06> !botsnacks
[07:03] <ubotu> :)
[07:03] <linuxgeek2> u mean /msg him
[07:03] <linuxgeek2> !restrictedformats
[07:03] <regeya> indeed concept10
[07:04] <Mabus06> !ubotu
[07:04] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[07:04] <cef> bluestrain: so I fire up evo using -c cal (well it avoids the thing crashing) .. get into the prefs, turn off the mailbox, and it stops crashing
[07:04] <nuck> hafta go cheers
[07:04] <cef> bluestrain: however, if I go back into preferences and enable the mailbox - BANG! it crashes
[07:04] <concept10> firefox is using 191 mb currently on my system
[07:04] <rss> anyone here with Sony Vaio Laptops here?
[07:04] <rss> running Ubuntu on it?
[07:05] <concept10> rss, i just saw your question on #debian, the fn keys work for me on breezy with my laptop
[07:05] <rss> Are you able to use Fn key on it to change monitor settings?
[07:05] <n0odl3> which lines do i uncomment to activate universe?
[07:06] <n0odl3> nevermind that question
[07:06] <n0odl3> i have a more important one about gpg keys
[07:06] <rss> concept10: can you change even the contrast?
[07:06] <n0odl3> how do i upload keys to apt?
[07:06] <n0odl3> please help the gpg key problem is really gettin on my nerves
[07:06] <nalioth> n0odl3: what problem are you having?
[07:06] <concept10> rss, yes, they mostly all work.  contrast, volume, etc
[07:06] <rss> concept10: which is your model?
[07:07] <rss> is there anyway that monitor could be made to change contrasts through software?
[07:07] <n0odl3> nalioth: well you see two days ago i had  gpg problem with the us mirror so someone told me to switch to ca
[07:07] <linuxgeek2> !How to install true type fonts
[07:07] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, linuxgeek2
[07:07] <concept10> rss, I have a HP laptop ze5570 i think
[07:07] <nybble> Hello all
[07:07] <nybble> it seems me cd drive is on the fritz
[07:08] <markw> ok, what's a fast socal ubuntu mirror?
[07:08] <linuxgeek2> !fonts
[07:08] <ubotu> well, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[07:08] <n0odl3> nalioth: then today i had some gpg errors... i THINK i fixed it when i was able to update with the us mirror again
[07:08] <rss> concept10: mine is PCG-F270 -- Sony Vaio
[07:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about gpgerrs
[07:08] <kestas> guys what's that repo which has the java deb?
[07:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about gpgerr
[07:08] <concept10> rss, have you installed linux on it before?
[07:08] <pppoe_dude> !ubotu
[07:08] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[07:08] <kestas> !tell kestas about java
[07:08] <kestas> !about java
[07:08] <ubotu> kestas: Are you on ritalin?
[07:08] <markw> kestas: blackdown.org
[07:08] <linuxgeek2> !display
[07:08] <n0odl3> nalioth: however i am told that i have to find a way to add keys to apt using sudo to fix the problem permenantly
[07:08] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, display is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution
[07:08] <rss> concept10: yes... first Sarge then Breezy
[07:08] <kestas> markw, trhanks
[07:08] <IGOREKHORROR> All of you pederasts!!!!!!!!
[07:08] <nerdy2> hmm, anyone have problems connecting to their dbus session bus?
[07:08] <markw> kestas: at least it works for Debian.
[07:08] <dducko> Poor Bot.. so abused and no thanks
[07:09] <nalioth> IGOREKHORROR: take that to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:09] <rss> concept10: Sony Vaio controls those settings through software... through proprietory drivers for windows
[07:09] <rss> concept10: Sony Vaio controls those settings through software... through proprietory drivers for window
[07:09] <pc22> nalioth, hi
[07:09] <n0odl3> nalioth: do oyu know what pppoe_dude is talking about?
[07:09] <nalioth> pc22: howdy
[07:09] <pc22> E: Couldn't find package w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[07:09] <kestas> markw, could you give me the sources.list line? I'm not sure where abouts the reop is?
[07:09] <rss> concept10: for linux... some one has reverse engineered it... but it's not working :(
[07:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pc22 about w32codecs
[07:10] <IGOREKHORROR> To me all the same... All of you pederasts!!!!!!!!
[07:10] <nybble> anyone having issues with their CD/DVD drive in Breezy Badger?
[07:10] <pppoe_dude> nalioth, gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net 40976EAF437D05B5. then n0odl3 has to upload hem to apt.
[07:10] <concept10> rss, have you tried breezy on that laptop?
[07:10] <nalioth> pppoe_dude: that is not a proper gpg line
[07:10] <rss> concept10: running it...
[07:11] <nybble> as usual, no replies
[07:11] <pppoe_dude> --recv-keys
[07:11] <pppoe_dude> before #
[07:11] <pppoe_dude> riight..
[07:11] <concept10> rss, im not sure what you have to do to get them to work, because they worked out of the box for me.  maybe try and search for other linux users of that laptop, and check the wiki
[07:12] <rss> nybble: no, mine works very fine
[07:12] <pppoe_dude> n0odl3, try gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[07:12] <rss> nybble: is yours not working?
[07:12] <pppoe_dude> then sudo apt-key add ~/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
[07:13] <nybble> nope :D
[07:13] <nybble> replaced it too
[07:13] <nybble> i should probably re-install ze kernel
[07:13] <n0odl3> ppope_dude
[07:13] <n0odl3> go back to flood
[07:13] <pppoe_dude> ok
[07:13] <n0odl3> i got some error
[07:13] <kestas> how is it not working?
[07:14] <kestas> not detected, not getting anything from it, getting strange output, it's slow, what?
[07:14] <nybble> kestas: detected, mountable, readable to a point. Whenever any data is to be accessed from the disc, it presents me with a FAIL
[07:14] <nybble> and this is on any disk
[07:14] <nybble> and same problem with brand new drive
[07:15] <concept10> you know what bugs me while using linux?  you start a task, and find out that something else needs to be configured and you forget what you were doing in the first place. Anyone else experience this or is my memory just bad?
[07:15] <nybble> from a different company
[07:15] <bonbon> hello
[07:15] <bonbon> how are you guys tonight?
[07:15] <gs> hi bonbon
[07:15] <bonbon> heehee
[07:15] <gs> good n u
[07:16] <bonbon> not bad, more playing with ubuntu tonight :)
[07:16] <nybble> yay bonbon
[07:16] <bonbon> I got ndiswrapper working last night, but now my card isn't working properly
[07:16] <bonbon> for wireless
[07:16] <bonbon> when it's active my connection is verry verry slow
[07:17] <nybble> ok this is odd
[07:17] <bonbon> so my goals tonight are: Install Wine, Install GParted, Mount a Shareable drive for windows/linux
[07:17] <bonbon> yeah, i think i need to port forward my wireless
[07:17] <nalioth> bonbon: gparted is default
[07:17] <bonbon> just not sure how to in linux
[07:17] <bonbon> oh, so gparted is in here?
[07:18] <Mr_Milenko> A fly just hit my light.. and fell down like a burning zeplin
[07:18] <Mr_Milenko> it was on fire O_o
[07:18] <dducko> Nice Light.
[07:18] <Mr_Milenko> oh yeah
[07:18] <bonbon> been trying to get linux to access my NTFS partition so I can have mp3s on both OS without duplicating
[07:18] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:18] <bonbon> so far, no luck
[07:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> are there any x86 "pda"s?
[07:19] <bonbon> Mr_Milenko:  Be careful, light may fall on your bed or desk!
[07:19] <Mr_Milenko> sure BROKEN_LADDER
[07:19] <bonbon> My question at the momennt is wine-install related
[07:19] <Mr_Milenko> i turned it off bonbon
[07:19] <bonbon> ah
[07:19] <Mr_Milenko> that was too freaky
[07:19] <bonbon> hehe
[07:19] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:19] <Mr_Milenko> bonbon: in fstab you gotta add a new line for the ntfs partition
[07:20] <Mr_Milenko> it wont be writable though..
[07:20] <bonbon> when i run the dpkg command or the tar -xf command it says "no c compiler found"
[07:20] <Mr_Milenko> and im too tired to remember the line
[07:20] <bonbon> not writeable is fine
[07:20] <Mr_Milenko> O_o
[07:20] <obscurite> night all
[07:20] <nalioth> bonbon: install "build-essential"
[07:20] <holycow> anyone here use epiphany browser?
[07:20] <bonbon> i download in my big windows partition, just want to read mp3s and other files so I can listen to mymusic
[07:20] <nybble> Crazy Milenko... ha ha ha ha ha... crazy milenko hoo hoo hooo hoo hahahaha
[07:21] <Mr_Milenko> lemme find it
[07:21] <nalioth> holycow: ask your question
[07:21] <holycow> is it possible to create a sub category in bookmarks? i don't see an obvious way to do it
[07:21] <bonbon> nalioth: apt-get?
[07:21] <Mr_Milenko> hold on bonbon
[07:21] <nybble> Mr_Milenko: ICP fan?
[07:21] <nalioth> bonbon: yes, use apt-get
[07:21] <Mr_Milenko> used to be
[07:21] <Mr_Milenko> the name stuck
[07:21] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:21] <nybble> :D
[07:21] <nybble> same hear really (former fan)
[07:21] <graig> im having all sorts of sound problems recording things.
[07:22] <graig> i
[07:22] <Mr_Milenko> still listen to em.. just not into it like i used to be
[07:22] <bonbon> nalioth: ok, i typed "sudo apt-get build essential"
[07:22] <graig> i get lots of static, and sometimes the volume of something i record is too low, and full of static.
[07:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bonbon about apt-get
[07:22] <bonbon> and i get a message that says "E: INvalid Operation"
[07:22] <nybble> graig: what are you using to record?
[07:22] <Belutz> bonbon, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:22] <bonbon> that bot is sweet
[07:23] <bonbon> keeps saying: couldn't stat source package
[07:24] <bonbon> ok, ran apt-get update
[07:24] <bonbon> now it just says "couldn't find package build"
[07:24] <bonbon> when i run install build essential
[07:24] <Belutz> build-essential mind the '-'
[07:24] <Belutz> not "build essential"
[07:25] <Mr_Milenko> bonbon: mkdir /mnt/win | then in fstab /dev/hdXX  /mnt/win  ntfs  ro  0 0 (ASK SOMEONE IF THIS IS RIGHT FIRST ITS 1:30am here lol) and xx is the drive/part your ntfs is on
[07:25] <bonbon> ah, my bad
[07:25] <Mr_Milenko> i think thats right..
[07:25] <bonbon> gracias
[07:25] <Mr_Milenko> double check
[07:25] <bonbon> is it mnt or mount?
[07:25] <Mr_Milenko> the directory would be /mnt/win
[07:26] <bonbon> Mr_Milenko: Ty
[07:26] <Mr_Milenko> then you would type mount /mnt/win
[07:26] <bonbon> oh, btw, I think Milenko was probably their best album, that or riddlebox ;)
[07:26] <Mr_Milenko> and itd mount it whenever you need it
[07:26] <mebaran151> hey
[07:26] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:26] <mebaran151> how do I setup alsa mixing
[07:26] <mebaran151> I am running a Via Envy sndcard
[07:26] <mebaran151> and I want to be able to play a movie in mplayer
[07:26] <bonbon> could you guys Ubotu fstab for me?
[07:27] <bonbon> so i can go read somemore, I'm not familiar w/fstab
[07:27] <mebaran151> ubotu, fstab?
[07:27] <ubotu> fstab is probably /etc/fstab is a real pain for new users. The fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[07:27] <Mr_Milenko> nano /etc/fstab
[07:27] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[07:27] <Mr_Milenko> in an xterm
[07:27] <bonbon> ah
[07:27] <mebaran151> or sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:27] <Mr_Milenko> or that
[07:27] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:28] <bonbon> what's the past URL?
[07:28] <mebaran151> or sudo $GODTEXTEDITOR /etc/fstab
[07:28] <bonbon> paste*
[07:28] <jrsims> hi all. is there a way to make Gnome remember window positions?
[07:28] <mebaran151> bonbon, http://rafb.net/paste
[07:28] <bonbon> ty
[07:29] <foxiness> after click on cancel "when the synaptic do apt-get update" after that it fail to get the repos ,what should i do now
[07:29] <Mr_Milenko> theres two things wrong with me helping right now...
[07:29] <Mr_Milenko> well 3..
[07:29] <Mr_Milenko> dialup, 1am, and using windows to get online
[07:29] <Mr_Milenko> :-/
[07:29] <bonbon> Mr_Milenko, now paste the url for the...uh.. paste post?
[07:30] <foxiness> mebaran151, or sudo -e /etc/fstab ;0
[07:30] <Mr_Milenko> uh?
[07:30] <Mr_Milenko> what?
[07:30] <bonbon> http://rafb.net/paste/results/MVliG697.html
[07:30] <bonbon> that's what I pasted
[07:30] <bonbon> it's my gedit from fstab
[07:30] <bonbon> but i'm not sure what it means
[07:31] <jrsims> hi all. is there a way to make Gnome remember window positions?
[07:31] <Mr_Milenko> add this line at the bottome of that file
[07:31] <bonbon> jrsims, have you searched the customization area of the ubuntu forums? they have good stuff
[07:31] <Mr_Milenko> add /dev/hdXX  /mnt/win  ntfs  ro  0 0 (change XX to where you windows partition is)
[07:32] <jrsims> bonbon: I haven't. sounds like Gnome doesn't have features to remember window positions.
[07:32] <bonbon> so if windows was on say, /dev/hda4/ that's what i put in for xx?
[07:32] <Mr_Milenko> add that line to your fstab file
[07:32] <bonbon> kky
[07:32] <foxiness> how can i fix broken repos "failed failed ..."
[07:32] <Mr_Milenko> yeah
[07:33] <bonbon> /dev/hda1 /mnt/win ntfs ro 00  <-- does that look right?
[07:33] <mebaran151> how do I enable ALS
[07:33] <mebaran151> A mixing
[07:33] <Mr_Milenko> yep
[07:33] <linuxgeek2> !ubuntu
[07:34] <ubotu> ubuntu is probably an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[07:34] <Mr_Milenko> no
[07:34] <bonbon> Mr_Milenko, ty
[07:34] <Mr_Milenko> 0 0
[07:34] <linuxgeek2> !awards
[07:34] <ubotu> [awards]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks
[07:34] <bonbon> no, it's not right?
[07:34] <Mr_Milenko> space between the 0's
[07:34] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:34] <DrZeus> Hi all.  I just recompiled and added a patch to my kernel.  How do I do to make the system load the modules automaticly in the boot, just for not doing "modprobe" again and again in the console?
[07:34] <Mr_Milenko> space between the 0's
[07:34] <bonbon> ah
[07:34] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to use fbpanel?
[07:34] <Mr_Milenko> dunno if its needed...
[07:34] <linuxgeek2> u mean cpanel ?
[07:34] <Mr_Milenko> but i always do it that way
[07:34] <bonbon> /dev/hda1 /mnt/win ntfs ro 0 0  ?
[07:34] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:35] <Mr_Milenko> yep
[07:35] <bonbon> ty
[07:35] <n0odl3> no fbpanel
[07:35] <n0odl3> for openbox
[07:35] <Mr_Milenko> type sudo mkdir /mnt/win when your done
[07:35] <bonbon> Mr_Milenko now do i have to run something else to use my windows partition?
[07:35] <bonbon> ah, ok, ty
[07:35] <n0odl3> im trying to build it but i get some missing gtk thing
[07:35] <Mr_Milenko> then when your done type sudo mount /mnt/win
[07:35] <n0odl3> its strange because i HAVE Gtk2.0
[07:35] <DrZeus> How do I set some kernel modules to be loaded in the booting, just for not doing any modprobe in the session
[07:35] <DrZeus> ?
[07:36] <bonbon> Mr_Milenko, it says "mkdir: cannot create directory 'mnt/win': No such file or directory"
[07:36] <Mr_Milenko> no
[07:36] <Mr_Milenko> its /mnt/win
[07:36] <Mr_Milenko> not mnt/win
[07:36] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[07:36] <Myrtti> ermmm
[07:36] <bonbon> ah, still learning that every little mark counts lol
[07:37] <bonbon> as usual, most of my linux problems are user-related, hehe
[07:37] <n0odl3> i posted my error in flood
[07:37] <n0odl3> please help
[07:37] <bonbon> do i have to do anything else now?
[07:37] <Mr_Milenko> type sudo mount /mnt/win
[07:38] <Mr_Milenko> wait..
[07:38] <Mr_Milenko> erm
[07:38] <Mr_Milenko> damnit im tired
[07:38] <Mr_Milenko> try that
[07:38] <bonbon> it says: "Contents could not be displayed"
[07:38] <bonbon> "You do not have permissions necessary"
[07:38] <Mr_Milenko> O_o
[07:38] <bonbon> to vew the contents of "win"
[07:39] <Mr_Milenko> well we know it works..
[07:39] <Mr_Milenko> just gotta change the line in fstab for all users
[07:39] <Mr_Milenko> hmm
[07:39] <bonbon> i do know permission is a "bad word" lol
[07:39] <Mr_Milenko> can someone else help him set the permissions of what hes mounting for all users??
[07:40] <bonbon> plleeeeez :D
[07:40] <bonbon> then I can use something other than windows!
[07:40] <Belutz> try put this in the /etc/fstab --> /dev/hda? /mnt/win ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[07:40] <Belutz> change the '?' into your hdd number
[07:40] <Wolveen> thats just for SATA no?
[07:41] <Myrtti> has anyone tried mathmlviewer?
[07:41] <Myrtti> should it work?
[07:41] <litage> i loaded e1000 (``modprobe e1000'') successfully, and then brought eth0 down and up. however, pinging anywhere still says host unreachable. any suggestions?
[07:41] <Myrtti> I searched the forum and there is nothing about it
[07:42] <crimsun> litage: how did you bring it up, with ifconfig or ifup?
[07:42] <bonbon> ok, trying it now
[07:42] <litage> crimsun: ``ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0``
[07:42] <bonbon> belutz, add that in addition to the line milenko gave me, or replace it?
[07:43] <crimsun> litage: is the default route correct?
[07:43] <Belutz> bonbon, replace it
[07:43] <litage> crimsun: where do you set the default route?
[07:43] <crimsun> litage: are you using dhcp or static? if dhcp, that's set for you by the dhcp lease
[07:44] <bonbon> Beluts, just add it anywhere?
[07:44] <Belutz> bonbon, yup, better to put it at the end of the file
[07:45] <litage> crimsun: static
[07:45] <jath_jath> hello
[07:45] <bonbon> Belutz, ok, now it says already mounted Is that right?
[07:46] <Belutz> bonbon, unmount it first, sudo umount /mnt/win
[07:46] <crimsun> litage: have you set your default gw then?
[07:46] <bonbon> kk
[07:46] <jath_jath> elo
[07:46] <jath_jath> df
[07:46] <jath_jath> df
[07:46] <crimsun> litage: sudo route add default gw <some ip>
[07:46] <jath_jath> r
[07:46] <jath_jath> g
[07:46] <Belutz> bonbon, then mount it again, sudo mount -a
[07:46] <crimsun> litage: (this should be set in /etc/network/interfaces)
[07:46] <jath_jath> ?
[07:46] <SirWraith> i'm trying to install on my powerbook and it can't find the cd-rom drive, can anyone help?
[07:46] <jath_jath> pwede sli
[07:47] <jath_jath> hehehe
[07:47] <jath_jath> ge
[07:47] <jath_jath> hehe
[07:47] <jath_jath> hehe
[07:47] <jath_jath> hehehee
[07:47] <jath_jath> he
[07:47] <Belutz> !ops
[07:47] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and nalioth
[07:47] <jath_jath> e
[07:47] <[Chameleon] > SirWraith: are you holding "C" while booting the laptop?
[07:47] <bonbon> yaaaaaay!
[07:47] <linuxgeek2> !help
[07:47] <bonbon> we did it
[07:47] <SirWraith> yeah, i'm gone with that, i'm in the ubuntu installer
[07:47] <jath_jath> olright
[07:47] <jath_jath> ass
[07:47] <jath_jath> as
[07:47] <jath_jath> as
[07:47] <jath_jath> as
[07:47] <bonbon> can you explain what that line we typed in meant, belutz?
[07:47] <jath_jath> s
[07:47] <SirWraith> i chose the language and kayboard layout
[07:47] <jath_jath> asa
[07:47] <Belutz> oh, i didn't know crimsun is an op, sorry ops :)
[07:47] <jath_jath> sa
[07:48] <linuxgeek2> !fool
[07:48] <ubotu> linuxgeek2: Wish i knew
[07:48] <SirWraith> and now it needs to detect and mount the cd-rom drive, and it can't find it
[07:48] <Belutz> bonbon, sudo umount /mnt/win <-- it unmount the ntfs partition
[07:48] <bonbon> can i run gparted from inside unbutu?
[07:48] <bonbon> yeah, i mean the line in the fstab
[07:48] <Belutz> bonbon, sudo mount -a <--- remount all partition in /etc/fstab
[07:48] <bonbon> Belutz, the line we put in fstab
[07:48] <bonbon> what does it mean?
[07:48] <Belutz> oh
[07:49] <bonbon> if too complicated, is ok
[07:50] <bonbon> now, how do i do it so I can see my linux folder in windows? heehee
[07:50] <Belutz> bonbon, it's not too complicated, but my english is not that good, so i recommend you to read it yourself by typing man mount
[07:50] <vvlaw> vv@weiwei:/usr/local/djgame2$ sudo ./startdjg
[07:50] <vvlaw> ./Hall: error while loading shared libraries: libQt3Support.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:50] <vvlaw> anybody know that what's wrong?
[07:51] <Belutz> it's about file permission and directory permission
[07:51] <DrZeus> How is it done for making some kernel modules to be loaded during boot?
[07:51] <SirWraith> the problem is this, i'm in the ubuntu installer and it doesn't detect the cd-rom drive
[07:51] <SirWraith> now i can choose a module to load and it gives me the option of /dev/?????, and i don't know what to do from here
[07:51] <vvlaw> anybody can help me now?
[07:51] <litage> crimsun: i'm on the same switch as this machine that's causing trouble, so i don't need a gateway specified. however, i gave it the proper gateway and the problem persisted
[07:51] <crimsun> DrZeus: you can place them in /etc/modules
[07:51] <bonbon> Belutz, so far your english has been quite good, what is your native tongue?
[07:52] <DrZeus> crimsun, just the name of the modules?  And that will avoid the need of doing "modprobe" during session right?
[07:52] <crimsun> litage: what's the output from route -n ? Use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:52] <crimsun> DrZeus: correct
[07:53] <DrZeus> crimsun, thnx I really appreciate it
[07:54] <nalioth> cafuego_: has an oddness in part of 'is 'ed?
[07:55] <DrZeus> crimsun, will test if they are fine loaded.  brb
[07:56] <cafuego_> nalioth: Well, I get "Error: Filesystem has incompatible feature enabled" on a bog-standard ext2 fs.
[07:56] <cafuego_> I don't suppose there's anyway to make parted tell me WHICH feature?
[07:56] <nalioth> cafuego_: weird
[07:57] <cronik> anyone knows how i can install smf on my computer
[07:57] <cronik> i want to turn it into a mini server
[07:59] <SirWraith> so i haven't used linux much except for live CDs, and i'm pretty much newish to unix, would ubuntu be best to experiment with, or should i go with debian or YDL?
[07:59] <bonbon> is there a terminal command that will let me move a file from my desktop to ~/.Icons?
[07:59] <mebaran151> SirWraith, Ubuntu is a nice clean desktop
[08:00] <cronik> anyone knows how i can install smf on my computer
[08:00] <nalioth> cafuego_: theyyyy'rrrree back
[08:00] <SirWraith> but now that these powerbooks all come with dual-layer DVD, i can only assume this is the problem that the install can't detect the CD drive
[08:00] <nybble> graig: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753&highlight=ALSA
[08:00] <SirWraith> so should i try something like debian, until i get the hang of it better
[08:00] <bonbon> Could someone point me in the right direction for installing an ICON set?
[08:00] <SirWraith> then just wipe that partition and go with ubuntu
[08:00] <cafuego_> nalioth: whut? whut?
[08:01] <cafuego_> !test
[08:01] <ubotu> Crashed.
[08:01] <litage> crimsun: the machine's in a different room, but here' most of the output:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/FN7wYr45.html
[08:01] <nalioth> cafuego_: dont you see them? our friends have returned
[08:01] <robotgeek> bonbon: System -> Preferences -> Theme Drag and Drop
[08:01] <cronik> im trying to host a mini site
[08:01] <cafuego_> Oh, the botnet moron
[08:01] <CamiloSan> SirWraith: I have the same problem with DVD detection - I got DEbian Sarge 3.1r0a - no DVD detect. Problems with modprobe. So I'm giving hte Ubuntu a shot myself
[08:01] <cronik> can anyone tell me how i can install a simple machine forum?
[08:01] <crimsun> litage: and you can ping 10.0.10.1 just fine, correct?
[08:02] <SirWraith> CamiloSan: have you been able to get the ubuntu installer to detect the drive so it can install?
[08:02] <CamiloSan> cronik: dude, you've asked the same question at least three times
[08:02] <litage> crimsun: no, pinging 10.0.10.1 says host unreachable
[08:02] <bonbon> one problem w/drag and drop
[08:02] <cronik> sowwy
[08:02] <robotgeek> bonbon: what?
[08:02] <bonbon> it's just an icon set, not a theme
[08:02] <cronik> i need to know
[08:02] <crimsun> litage: what is eth0's ip?
[08:02] <robotgeek> bonbon: no problem, it would work
[08:02] <bonbon> so it says "invalid file time"
[08:02] <litage> crimsun: 10.0.10.50
[08:02] <bonbon> type*
[08:02] <bonbon> invalid file type
[08:02] <GURT> why not install phpbb, its a lot cleaner looking and is simle to install
[08:03] <crimsun> litage: interesting. Anything in dmesg
[08:03] <bonbon> robotgeek: it says, "Invalid File format
[08:03] <CamiloSan> SirWraith: nah, I'm looking up info on modprobe - perhaps I can drop to shell and play with the parameters to get the drive to recognize. My problem is with Debian Sarge 3.1r0a - I'm in the middle of downloadin ghte Ubuntu CD image
[08:03] <robotgeek> bonbon: weird, that works for me. gimme a moment, let me look up the manual way
[08:03] <cronik> the pro is that i don"t know whe i can put the file so apache can read them
[08:03] <cronik> where*
[08:03] <mebaran151> cronik, probs /var/www
[08:03] <robotgeek> bonbon: extract the icon set into ~/.icons/
[08:03] <linuxgeek2> ubuto tell linuxgeek2 about fonts
[08:03] <cronik> thanx
[08:04] <linuxgeek2> ubuto tell linuxgeek2 fonts
[08:04] <CamiloSan> SirWraith: I suggest if you're having problems with the install to do the same. Drop to a shell and see if you can mount the CD/DVD somehow
[08:04] <bonbon> ok, is this the line:
[08:04] <SirWraith> CamiloSan: well i have no idea how to do that for now, and i just partitioned the drive to give me 8GB of linux to play with, should i try a diff distro and come back when ubuntu supports it, hopefully in the next version
[08:04] <DrZeus> crimsun: the modules loaded fine.  Thanks man; God bless you
[08:04] <linuxgeek2> ubotu, tell linuxgeek2 about fonts
[08:04] <bonbon> robotgeek:  cd ~/.themes && tar xzf /Tux-n-Tosh.tar.b2.gz
[08:04] <morzel> hi
[08:04] <Myrtti> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88344
[08:04] <Myrtti> :-/
[08:05] <nybble> !ubotu tell linuxgeek2 2about fonts
[08:05] <CamiloSan> SirWraith: well, that's an idea but you may run into the same problem with other distros - some drives are simply a bitch to get going.
[08:05] <morzel> how can I install theme for ubuntu?
[08:05] <bonbon> i mean tar.bz2
[08:05] <cronik> i can"t copy anything in that file
[08:05] <linuxgeek2> haha nybble
[08:05] <cronik> how can i copy something in the file
[08:05] <CamiloSan> SirWraith: I personally think I have one of those bitchy drives ;)
[08:05] <nybble> lol
[08:05] <nybble> !ubotu tell linuxgeek2 about fonts
[08:05] <Myrtti> tar xjf
[08:05] <robotgeek> bonbon: then use tar -jxf
[08:05] <bonbon> kk
[08:05] <Orborde> What's the command that you use to make install something AND get it registered as a deb package?
[08:05] <morzel> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=18631 i have downloaded this file
[08:05] <SirWraith> CamiloSan: do you know of any distros besides gentoo that may support the drive?
[08:05] <linuxgeek2> ubotu, tell morzel about themes
[08:05] <nybble> lol
[08:05] <morzel> k
[08:05] <cronik> mebaran
[08:06] <linuxgeek2> ubotu, tell morzel about installing themes
[08:06] <robotgeek> Orborde: from source, checkinstall
[08:06] <cronik> how can i copy file in that folder
[08:06] <aftertaf> when using ssh, do you use the -D option to specify a different server port on the destination ssh server?
[08:06] <Orborde> robotgeek: Thanks
[08:06] <cafuego_> aftertaf -p
[08:07] <cronik> can anyone tell me how i can copy files to my apach folder
[08:07] <cronik> ?
[08:07] <CamiloSan> SirWraith: well, you can simply shoot it with a shotgun. Try RedHat Fedora, Slackware - anything. I personally don't know. My drive is a NEC ND-2510A. Maybe you could flash the firmware or something to make it play nice with the Kernel
[08:08] <bonbon> could someone shoot me that paste link again?
[08:08] <bonbon> i get a funny error when i try to install
[08:08] <bonbon> !ubotu Paste
[08:08] <ubotu> hmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[08:08] <bonbon> ahha!
[08:08] <bonbon> #flood
[08:08] <robotgeek> cronik: i woul suggest that you read the apache configuration files, though apache by default is in /var/www/
[08:08] <Cindy> where to find package for this --> gdm-2.8.0.5-0ubuntu1??
[08:08] <SirWraith> CamiloSan: ha, i can try fedora. if it doesn't work, i'll make my friend do it for me until i know enough to try that myself. Thanks
[08:08] <Myrtti> bonbon: /j #flood
[08:08] <bonbon> ty
[08:08] <bonbon> Ok, i just posted my error in #flood
[08:09] <CamiloSan> happy hackin, SirWraith
[08:09] <SirWraith> to you as well
[08:09] <bonbon> could someone take a peek at it for me?
[08:09] <bonbon> i think i'm using the wrong commands
[08:09] <bonbon> they are the ones that came from art.gnome.org
[08:10] <bonbon> or do i need to post it again?
[08:10] <bonbon> don't wanna flood the flood, heh
[08:10] <Juhaz> just put it in the pastebin. it'll stay there for quite a while, no re-re-reflooding :)
[08:10] <CamiloSan> for code, use http://pastebin.com/
[08:10] <bonbon> kay
[08:11] <CamiloSan> ditto Juhaz
[08:11] <aftertaf> thx cafuego_ :) ill try that
[08:12] <bonbon> ok, here is link:
[08:12] <bonbon> http://pastebin.com/424077
[08:12] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to work fbpanel?
[08:12] <bonbon> i think i need to move the tar file from it's location (desktop) to hte icons folder
[08:12] <bonbon> i just dunno how to get there
[08:12] <aftertaf> ssh -p 8090 david@ssh.server.org  <- is that right syntax
[08:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bonbon about cli
[08:13] <aftertaf> trying to force it via the http proxy
[08:13] <Juhaz> bonbon, "tar jxf ~/Desktop/ICON-Tux-n-Tosh.0.1.tar.bz2"
[08:13] <iceman> Anyone know how to install active x control for mozilla
[08:14] <bonbon> ty nihaloth :)
[08:14] <litage> crimsun: sorry for the delay. had to write it down
[08:14] <Juhaz> bonbon, alternatively, you shouldn't need to play around with cli for that, you can drag and drop the tarball from desktop to gnome-theme-manager
[08:14] <bonbon> ok, i tried that, says improper file format
[08:15] <Juhaz> might be a corrupted file
[08:15] <bonbon> nvm, i'm a dumbass
[08:15] <bonbon> i was dragging and dropping the extracted folder
[08:15] <bonbon> not the actual tar
[08:15] <bonbon> tar works
[08:16] <bonbon> again, user error, the source of my troubles, heh
[08:16] <bonbon> didn't rt enough fm tonight
[08:17] <DrZeus> Im out fellas; God bless you all.  C ya
[08:20] <litage> crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/kTs1IC60.html
[08:21] <Mr_Milenko> +r isnt set
[08:21] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:21] <Mr_Milenko> +cfnPt
[08:21] <nalioth> rob^: we're not +r
[08:22] <fita> Weird, no one's asking anything.
[08:22] <rob^> maybe you need to
[08:22] <nalioth> rob^: most of these joins/parts are actual users
[08:22] <rob^> ouch
[08:22] <rob^> whats with the odd names
[08:22] <aeon17x> Can you hear me now?
[08:22] <rob^> looks like someone just mashed the keyboard
[08:23] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:23] <aeon17x> I liek their names though.
[08:24] <rob^> what the heck is a "aqovaaa"
[08:24] <cevizoglu> sounds like a kind of bottled water
[08:24] <rob^> heh
[08:24] <Myrtti> I liek mil --- *smack*
[08:24] <rob^> ?
[08:25] <nalioth> rob^: you've heard of the million monkeys typing a million years?
[08:25] <Mr_Milenko> whatd you mack me for?
[08:25] <Mr_Milenko> smack
[08:25] <Mr_Milenko> **
[08:25] <Myrtti> I smacked myself
[08:25] <rob^> nalioth, I've seen a million monkeys all joining the one chan
[08:25] <Mr_Milenko> [02:31]  <Myrtti> I liek mil --- *smack*
[08:25] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:25] <Mr_Milenko> usually people call me mil.. sorry
[08:25] <aeon17x> !botsnacks
[08:25] <ubotu> :)
[08:25] <aeon17x> Hey, good thing ubotu's alive and kicking.
[08:25] <nalioth> rob^: the point is: some of those randome 9character nicks will be 'cool'
[08:26] <Myrtti> "I liek milk"
[08:26] <rob^> yeah
[08:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone know of a solid tablet/pda x86
[08:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> ?
[08:27] <keyboardMash> hmm why did I just get the ban list?
[08:27] <Alex> Anyone know how I can add entries to grub.. during boot? I appear to have installed grub and forgotten to add anything other than my Windows installation o_O
[08:27] <cafuego_> keyboardMash: wallops enabled?
[08:27] <Alex> keyboardMash: you typed /bans or /mode +b?
[08:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> keyboardMash you clicked on the window text area
[08:27] <keyboardMash> all I did was change my nick :)
[08:28] <nalioth> keyboardMash: um, +r ?
[08:29] <keyboardMash> +Eiw
[08:29] <litage> does a network driver exist for the 82801GR chipset that drives the NIC that's on the Intel D945GNT motherboard?
[08:30] <keyboardMash> BROKEN_LADDER, don't take my ctcp version at face value
[08:31] <cafuego_> filthy ctcpliar
[08:31] <Madeye> guys, I have P4 2.6/1gb of ram, 2.6.12-9-386 , Do you think It's better to install linux-686 kernel ?
[08:32] <crimsun> sure.
[08:32] <Madeye> crimsun, why? Where can i read about this ?
[08:32] <nalioth> Madeye: yes, you'll benefit
[08:33] <aftertaf> Madeye: its optimised for your processor architecture
[08:33] <HiddenFly> Is there any way I could disable trash, like in Windows, so that however one deletes a file it will never go to trash?
[08:34] <aftertaf> HiddenFly: use the rm command ;)
[08:34] <holycow> HiddenFly, i don't know the answer, but i'm curious, where would the file go?
[08:34] <aftertaf> holycow: direct to dev/null :)
[08:35] <HiddenFly> holycow: it would get deleted.
[08:35] <Madeye> nalioth, aftertaf , yes I'm apting it now, but I would like to read more about this, I couldn't find anything explaining what kind of optimization it has
[08:35] <nalioth> Madeye: the 686 kernel mostly addresses ram over 768mb
[08:35] <aftertaf> Madeye: run make menuconfig and read what the kernel tool says..... might help
[08:35] <HiddenFly> I found only a setting that gives one an alternative way to delete a file so that it goes there, but it won't disable it.
[08:35] <aftertaf> or asl nalioth, our resident linux encyclopedia :)
[08:36] <HiddenFly> *so that it doesn't go
[08:36] <Madeye> aftertaf,  i don't have menuconfig
[08:36] <aftertaf> but you have nalioth :)
[08:42] <A-z-i-z> hello... ubuntu didn't detect my PCMCIA controller... when i type lspci, i get "0000:01:04.0 CardBus bridge: ENE Technology Inc: Unknown device 1412 (rev 10)"... I used another distribution and it found it as "0000:01:04.0 CardBus bridge: ENE Technology Inc CB-712/4 Cardbus Controller (rev 10)". what can i do to get my PCMCIA controller enabled on ubuntu ?
[08:46] <ulaas> oh!! i cannot se "no backports for breezy" comment on the topic. This means there is?
[08:46] <Belutz> ulaas, yes
[08:47] <manuvcube> here we are: how fo i resize/merge hfs+ partitions without loosing data on other partitions?
[08:47] <nalioth> manuvcube: use parted
[08:47] <tjolli> wow that nickserv stuff really is a piece of crap for me who only pops in once in a blue moon
[08:48] <manuvcube> nalioth: thx
[08:48] <nalioth> manuvcube: shrink only for hfs+
[08:48] <manuvcube> nalioth: shrink only, hmmm. Bad. Need to delete/merge two smaller parts into one bigger. Will see the man first!
[08:49] <nalioth> manuvcube: shrink your partition, make a new partition, mount new partition
[08:49] <manuvcube> nalioth: ok
[08:50] <ulaas> Belutz, oh! tell me tell me tell me
[08:51] <nuck> spambot spambot trap!
[08:51] <tjolli> anyway, does anyone know why postfix insists on sending all mail for root to root@my.isp.com? /etc/aliases looks fine to me... what else can I do, besides dpkg-reconfigure postfix?
[08:57] <cafuego_> tjolli: Check .fiorward files, check /etc/mailname, check /etc/postfix/main.cf; check that a smarthost isn't set.
[08:57] <ulaas> Belutz, well there is backports but nothing inside right? :)
[08:58] <nalioth> ulaas: backports do not exist yet
[08:59] <saik0> is there a way to disable the ctrl+alt+Fx hotkeys to bring up different terminals?
[08:59] <Belutz> ulaas, sorry i was disconnected
[09:00] <limguohong91> Hi :), How do i run dcr file on my Firefox?
[09:00] <thoreauputic> saik0: you can comment out the extra tty s in /etc/inittab
[09:00] <ulaas> nalioth, well the repo exists. but you are also true that it does not really exist without packages :)
[09:01] <nalioth> ulaas: you are not getting errors? when you update apt-get?
[09:01] <thoreauputic> saik0: you need to keep 1  at least - and 7.8 etc
[09:02] <ulaas> nalioth, no! :)
[09:02] <ulaas> nalioth, i also checked the repo with browser. it is there
[09:02] <saik0> thoreauputic I dont need to get rid of the ttys altogether really. just hide them from users of a browser kiosk
[09:03] <limguohong91> How do i run .dcr file on firefox, anyone :p?
[09:03] <nalioth> limguohong91: you dont
[09:03] <limguohong91> nalioth: so i can't?
[09:03] <nalioth> limguohong91: that is a shockwave type file, correct?
[09:03] <bonbon> anybody know the command to run winecfg?
[09:04] <limguohong91> Nope.
[09:04] <limguohong91> I don't think so, nalioth
[09:04] <thoreauputic> saik0: ah well getting rid of 2,3,4,5,6 is pretty easy - and I guess 1 can go as well if you are only running X, although you'd need to be able to ssh in if something goes wrong
[09:04] <[Jonne] > hi, i have a question, I posted it on ubuntuforums, but nobody answers it. Can someone look at it and give an answer? It should be easy if you know GNOME a little
[09:04] <[Jonne] > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83228
[09:04] <limguohong91> nalioth: I know sockwave type file are onlt swf
[09:05] <nalioth> limguohong91: only flash is supported on x86 boxes, shockwave is not
[09:05] <saik0> thoreauputic, they are diskless and have a readonly nfs root. I ssh into the server and chroot into it =)
[09:05] <limguohong91> nalioth: but i can run swf file o.O (shockwave file)
[09:06] <tjolli> cafuego_, thanks, but there are no .forward files.. looking at the postfix faq, seems like I have to set virtual_alias_maps. but it is already set to $virtual_maps, which does not exist... why would ubuntu do that?
[09:06] <luckyaba> is there a way to disable the screensaver via command line?
[09:06] <Orborde> What's the Ubuntu dev channel?
[09:06] <nalioth> Orborde: -devel
[09:07] <Orborde> Thanks
[09:08] <ogami1972> hello
[09:08] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : are you saying you can't tell nautilus to open the file with scite? Did you change the "properties" tab after right clicking the file type?
[09:08] <ogami1972> is it possible to rebuild fstab without rebooting?
[09:08] <thoreauputic> ogami1972: yes
[09:08] <mustard5> ogami1972, yes
[09:09] <Orborde> I was going to suggest that the default sshd settings not permit root login at all. Where would I file this suggestion? Should I file a bug or what?
[09:09] <[Jonne] > it will open scite, but the file isn't opened
[09:09] <ogami1972> i thought so- i tried "sudo rebuild fstab" but, no... i've been looking for a script...
[09:09] <[Jonne] > scite gets the wrong path
[09:09] <topyli> Orborde: no need, root logins are disabled in any case :)
[09:10] <bonbon> I'm guessing MS doesn't provide instructions on how to expand an NTFS partition using gparted?
[09:10] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: xscreensaver-command -throttle  or xscreensaver-command -someotherthing in the man page for xscreensaver-command  (or just killall xscreensaver)
[09:10] <topyli> Orborde: if you want to suggest changes, do it in bugzilla
[09:10] <[Jonne] > it gets /home/jonne/file:/home/jonne/file.txt, instead of just file:/home/jonne/file.txt
[09:10] <aftertaf> bonbon: if ic can do it, you'll first need to unmount it
[09:10] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : if you can wait a few minutes I'll see if I can reproduce your problem here
[09:10] <[Jonne] > at least that's what i see in the title bar of scite
[09:11] <[Jonne] > ok
[09:11] <[Jonne] > but it's probably a conf file somewhere that i need to edit
[09:11] <[Jonne] > i want to know which one
[09:11] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : be patient - I'm on dialup and it will take about 8-10 minutes to install ;)
[09:12] <thoreauputic> oh - actually less than that
[09:13] <penguin_roar> Orborde: i couldnt agree more about sshd
[09:13] <BuFF> what's the meaning for "~/" ?
[09:13] <penguin_roar> BuFF: home
[09:14] <nalioth> BuFF: it's a quick string to mean /home/BuFF/
[09:14] <[Jonne] > it works ok in konqueror, btw
[09:14] <[Jonne] > seems to be a nautilus thing
[09:14] <penguin_roar> BuFF: ~ = home/username
[09:14] <BuFF> thanks
[09:14] <Madeye> aftertaf i have installed 686 kernel, and now Xorg wont start, complaining No monitor
[09:14] <Madeye> aftertaf  how to force it to recognize the monitor
[09:14] <luckyaba> im trying to copy over some files to another computer but nautilus is saying it can't display contents of the folder?
[09:14] <aftertaf> Madeye: what gfx card?
[09:14] <aftertaf> nvidia?
[09:14] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : works perfectly here
[09:15] <bonbon> can you run gparted from within ubuntu?
[09:15] <Madeye> aftertaf  nvidia
[09:15] <mustard5> Madeye, you probably need the restricted module for your kernel installed?
[09:15] <penguin_roar> bonbon: as long as the partitions you want to change arent mounted
[09:15] <[Jonne] > and you know where those settings are stored (open with, and stuff?)
[09:15] <Madeye> mustard5 nvidia was working fine with the old kernel.
[09:15] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : I just right clicked a .txt file , went to "properties", added scite to "open with" and checked it as preference
[09:15] <aftertaf> Madeye: did you use the ubuntu nvidia drivers or the nvidia website ones?
[09:15] <[Jonne] > they're a mess anyway, so i'd need to fix that
[09:16] <Madeye> aftertaf  nvidia repos drivers
[09:16] <mustard5> Madeye, the 686 has a seperate restricted module for itself
[09:16] <holycow> anyone run scribus on a gnome desktop?  i need to give scribus a decent gnome friendly theme ... how is that done for kde once again?
[09:16] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : in nautilus I mean :)
[09:16] <ogami1972> so... how do i rebuild fstab without rebooting?
[09:16] <aftertaf> mustard5: right, but it should have installed that package too.... :/
[09:16] <mustard5> Madeye, I'll find it in synaptic for you
[09:16] <mustard5> afteraf, it doesnt though
[09:17] <thoreauputic> ogami1972: just edit it, and check with mount -a if you are paranoid
[09:17] <Madeye> mustard5 thanks,
[09:17] <mustard5> afteraf, I've been through this myself
[09:17] <aftertaf> ok mustard5 :) hehe
[09:17] <tjolli> anyone else have problems with postfix sending root@localhost mail to root@isp on a "internet site with smarthost"?
[09:17] <bonbon> if i unmount a drive will i lose information?
[09:17] <mustard5> Madeye, I'm just apt-get updating on dialup..soo..a little wait :D
[09:17] <bonbon> like data?
[09:18] <thoreauputic> tjolli: I haven't had that problem but I've heard of it happening
[09:18] <Madeye> mustard5 yeah sure take your time, bitchx sucks btw :-)
[09:18] <bonbon> anyone know?
[09:18] <mustard5> hehe
[09:18] <MaCinTof> hi
[09:18] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : sorted?
[09:18] <Orborde> Hey, is there anyone that hasn't set their root password that can help me?
[09:18] <Orborde> Hey, is there anyone that hasn't set their root password that can help me?
[09:18] <mustard5> Madeye, 8 minutes to go ;)
[09:18] <[Jonne] > oh, it works oh if i do 'open with', and navigate to the scite binary, instead of the one listed in the box
[09:18] <[Jonne] > *ok
[09:18] <thoreauputic> Orborde: no need to repeat
[09:18] <theturtl> yeah there is,
[09:19] <theturtl> he said it twice, i still don't understand
[09:19] <Orborde> thoreauputic: Sorry, it looked like it had jetted offscreen :)
[09:19] <Madeye> mustard5 okay :-)
[09:19] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : no, go to the "properties"'inthe right click menu
[09:19] <Orborde> theturtl: You haven't set a root password?
[09:19] <Madeye> mustard5  how to reconfigure my xorg just a try maybe it will work
[09:19] <luckyaba> im getting this error Nautilus cannot display "/mnt/curt".
[09:19] <mustard5> Madeye, tis ok I got it
[09:19] <[Jonne] > well, i meant that one ;)
[09:19] <Madeye> i just cant get the full naem of xorg installation
[09:19] <mustard5> Madeye, linux-restricted-modules-686
[09:20] <Madeye> mustard5  okay
[09:20] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : in the "properties" select "open with" and set it to scite
[09:20] <mustard5> Madeye, I didn an apt-cache search
[09:20] <[Jonne] > it's sorted, tnx
[09:20] <thoreauputic> [Jonne] : to make it the default you tick the button for it
[09:20] <thoreauputic> OK
[09:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> what is the windows called that's on "pocket pc"?
[09:21] <aftertaf> CE
[09:21] <Madeye> mustard5 i'm apting it, What next ?
[09:21] <mustard5> Madeye, whats your kernel version?
[09:21] <mustard5> Madeye, uname -r
[09:22] <Madeye> err exec -o doesnt work in bitchx lol
[09:22] <Madeye> mustard5  it's 2.6.12.9-686
[09:22] <Madeye> Linux madi 2.6.12-9-686 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:25:32 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:22] <Madeye> yeah! it works
[09:22] <mustard5> Madeye, just confirm you have the right kernel version for me, but you should just be able to reboot if your xorg.conf is set up with sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[09:23] <mustard5> Madeye, all good?
[09:23] <Madeye> mustard5  no i mean the exec -o :-) still apting restricted modules.
[09:23] <mustard5> k
[09:23] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: does the directorY /mnt/curt  exist?
[09:23] <Madeye> mustard5  i'm on 128
[09:23] <mustard5> Madeye, the kernel version is good to
[09:23] <bonbon> ubotu mount partitions
[09:24] <ubotu> No idea, bonbon
[09:24] <bonbon> damn
[09:24] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[09:24] <ubotu> methinks mountwindows is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically)
[09:24] <thoreauputic> bonbon: is that what you needed?
[09:24] <bonbon> well, i made another partition
[09:24] <bonbon> not for windows
[09:24] <luckyaba> thoreauputic: yeah.. i browse it for a while then it starts showing that error
[09:24] <dducko> What are you needing to do bonbon ?
[09:25] <bonbon> thoreauputic, I want to mount this seperate partition/drive to linux and windows, it's FAT 32, primary
[09:25] <bonbon> dev/hda4
[09:25] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: so you can access it but it disappears? Or are you trying to enter a subdirectory
[09:25] <dducko> !mount
[09:25] <bonbon> /dev/hda4
[09:25] <ubotu> from memory, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[09:25] <bonbon> !windowsdrives
[09:25] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:26] <luckyaba> thoreauputic: when i access it i  try and go into a subdirectory and then it takes forever when it comes up i cant go back to the parent directory
[09:26] <dducko> That should tell you how to set it up for linux,  with windows should auto detect
[09:26] <bonbon> i must be a masochist, I'm actually enjoying this stuff
[09:26] <luckyaba> thoreauputic: gives me the error i just posted
[09:26] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: so the problem is the subdirs
[09:26] <dducko> Oh Its lots of fun actually
[09:26] <dducko> Same reason I like working on computer
[09:26] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: and what sort of filesysytem is this mount point?
[09:27] <luckyaba> thoreauputic: i velieve ext3
[09:27] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: and is it a samba share or an nfs mount point?
[09:28] <thoreauputic> or jsut a partition, or another drive?
[09:28] <luckyaba> thoreauputic: samba
[09:28] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: I suspected - it's likely a samba config issue then
[09:28] <mustard5> Madeye, just to check again..your not using a nvidia-legacy card?  Its a fairly new vid card?
[09:28] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: I don't use samba - maybe someone else can troubleshoot
[09:29] <bonbon> does this look like the right mount command?
[09:29] <bonbon> thoreauputic, sudo mount /dev/hda4/ fat32 /media/shares
[09:29] <Madeye> mustard5 it's pretty old 64mb nvidia,
[09:29] <hussam> how do I defrag my linux hard disk?
[09:29] <thoreauputic> bonbon: no
[09:29] <aftertaf> Madeye: gf4 ? gf2?
[09:29] <Madeye> mustard5  I have just apted restricted modules, what next? just reboot ?
[09:29] <mustard5> Madeye, it worked on the old kernel I take it without nvidia-legacy?
[09:29] <aftertaf> Madeye: no need to......
[09:29] <Madeye> aftertaf  to be honest, I don't know lol but mostly 2
[09:29] <thoreauputic> bonbon:  sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda4 /media/shares
[09:29] <mustard5> Madeye, you need to restart X I think
[09:30] <mustard5> Madeye, reboot is a crude method of restarting X of course :D
[09:30] <bonbon> ty
[09:30] <Madeye> mustard5 aftertaf  i'm in! lemme run xchat one sec
[09:30] <Madeye> exit
[09:30] <Madeye> ops
[09:30] <mustard5> Madeye, if it bombs out I have another step to try :)
[09:30] <mustard5> Madeye, ah cool
[09:30] <aftertaf> lol cool :)
[09:31] <bonbon> ok, getting on to windows, brb
[09:31] <mustard5> afteraf, I took me ages to work this problem out when I stared changing kernels :)
[09:31] <luckyaba> is there a way to see if i am connected to my network at 100 or 1000?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> luckyaba:  mii-tool
[09:32] <Habbie> luckyaba: ethtool I think
[09:32] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: that might not be right - hang on
[09:32] <aftertaf> mustard5: hmm depends on luck of draw i suppose...
[09:32] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: yes, looks like that's it
[09:32] <aftertaf> mustard5: i installed linux-k7 kernel and it dragged all it needed, no pbs
[09:33] <luckyaba> habbie: where it says speed .. is that what i am connected at?
[09:33] <mustard5> afteraf, you lucky bugger :)
[09:33] <mustard5> hehe
[09:33] <Habbie> luckyaba: paste it
[09:33] <Habbie> luckyaba: if it's just one line :)
[09:34] <mustard5> aftertaf, it had me stumped for days
[09:34] <luckyaba> habbie: Speed: 1000Mb/s
[09:34] <Habbie> luckyaba: sounds about right :)
[09:34] <thoreauputic> ah, ethtool eth0  - nice, I learnt a new command :)
[09:34] <luckyaba> habbie: means im connected to the network at a very high speed right?
[09:35] <Habbie> luckyaba: yes :)
[09:35] <luckyaba> lol
[09:35] <Habbie> thoreaupu: ethtool is basically the new mii-tool :)
[09:35] <thoreauputic> Habbie: and much easier to use it seems :)
[09:35] <luckyaba> habbie: so why is it taking over 7 hours to copy 70 gigs?
[09:35] <Habbie> luckyaba: don't know, tell us more about your copying method
[09:36] <aftertaf> 70 gigs is a lot of wad....
[09:36] <luckyaba> habbie: opened the computer on the network browser and pasted it to the computer
[09:36] <Habbie> luckyaba: is the other computer on 1000mbit too?
[09:36] <aftertaf> luckyaba: source pc on 10mbit NIC?
[09:36] <luckyaba> habbie: yeah
[09:36] <nalioth> luckyaba: your connection capacity is far from your actual throughput
[09:36] <aftertaf> true :)
[09:37] <Habbie> you're doing about 3 mbits
[09:37] <aftertaf> 100mb gets you about 3
[09:37] <thoreauputic> luckyaba: doing it graphically introduces some overhead...
[09:37] <nalioth> luckyaba: if you dont have gigabit devices all the way through, you'll only see 10/100 capabilities
[09:37] <Habbie> that's usually what I get for all kinds of copying activity too
[09:37] <Habbie> even though networks may be 100 or 1000
[09:37] <nalioth> luckyaba: also if you have ANY 10/100 devices plugged into your network, it may slow it down
[09:37] <Habbie> luckyaba: you might be able to speed it up by breaking the copy in two halves and doing those at the same time..
[09:37] <luckyaba> so it should take like 7 hours to copy 70 gogs?
[09:37] <luckyaba> gigs?
[09:37] <Habbie> luckyaba: but first, check CPU and I/O load on both machines
[09:38] <luckyaba> k 1 sec
[09:38] <Habbie> (while copying :)
[09:38] <nalioth> luckyaba: yes that sounds about right
[09:39] <Habbie> luckyaba: I must add that last week between two fast machines I did much much more than those 3 mbits
[09:39] <luckyaba> nalioth: on a gigabit lan?
[09:39] <nalioth> luckyaba: if you are actually running at maximum capacity, no
[09:40] <luckyaba> nalioth: we just got our fileserver setup and i have alot of stuff i want to move to the server... i figured since we were setting up the gbit lan it would copy much faster
[09:41] <Madeye> hey! aftertaf mustard5  :-) I'm in now
[09:41] <mustard5> Madeye, well done :)
[09:41] <aftertaf> congrats to Madeye
[09:41] <Madeye> mustard5, aftertaf  Thank you guys :-)
[09:41] <nalioth> luckyaba: sleep on it
[09:42] <action09> hi all , i have problem maybe with X ( after nvidia prprietary drivers installed, can't log out correctly freeze ) and now i have some apps that shutdown by themselves (firefox/pan).. how can i do a debug or submit a bugreport ? is it first a good idea ?
[09:42] <luckyaba> nalioth: friggin gigabit hype got me.. haha
[09:42] <luckyaba> thanks for the info everyone
[09:42] <hussam> how do I defrag a Linux harddisk?
[09:42] <luckyaba> learnt a thang or two
[09:43] <mustard5> action09, what driver version?
[09:43] <action09> last
[09:43] <aftertaf> action09: nvidia website drivers?
[09:43] <action09> hussam you don't have to :)
[09:43] <thoreauputic> hussam: you don't, normally
[09:43] <action09> aftertaf  yes :)
[09:43] <nalioth> hussam: there is no fragmentation on linux
[09:43] <aftertaf> hussam: it does it itself.
[09:43] <Habbie> nalioth: that's not true ;)
[09:43] <thoreauputic> well, there is but it's negligible
[09:43] <action09> yes
[09:43] <aftertaf> action09: bugreport to nvidia website and/or remove drivers, put ubuntu ones instead.
[09:43] <action09> linux FS rocks :)
[09:43] <robotgeek> hmm, there we go again about fragmentation :)
[09:43] <nalioth> hussam: there is virtually no fragmentation on linux
[09:43] <aftertaf> action09: i take it you want latest versions for a reason ;)
[09:43] <nalioth> Habbie: happy?
[09:44] <agro1986> help, after installing both linux-686 and nvidia-glx-legacy suddenly the command "ls" is colorless! How to restore so that "ls" is colorful again??? (for example blue for directories)
[09:44] <Habbie> nalioth: hehe, yes :)
[09:44] <hussam> nalioth: there is defragmentation. the last time I cheked the disk at boot, it was 5+ % fragmented
[09:44] <aftertaf> lol thoreauputic
[09:44] <thoreauputic> ;)
[09:44] <action09> aftertaf  ok i installed nvidia by ubuntu method glx enable don't modify anything ( no nvidia on xorg.conf) so i  decided to installed one from nvidia site
[09:45] <mustard5> action09, did you sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ?
[09:45] <action09> mustard5 yep
[09:45] <Myrtti> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88344 (please)
[09:45] <thoreauputic> agro1986: check that your ~/.bashrc has colors turned on :)
[09:45] <mustard5> action09, maybe you had an altered xorg.conf before doing it
[09:45] <nalioth> hussam: that is considered "not enough to affect your system" levels
[09:45] <action09> when i relaunch X nothing  same free drivers.. no nvidia logo
[09:45] <hussam> nalioth: what if it increases?
[09:46] <mustard5> action09,  it borks from enabling if your xorg.conf has been changed
[09:46] <nalioth> hussam: then something is wrong with your system
[09:46] <action09> mustard5 maybe because i had some anoying lines when playing a video ? do you mean i had to try a dpkg-reconfigure xfree ?
[09:46] <mustard5> action09, breezy uses xorg
[09:46] <nalioth> hussam: it should stay ~5%
[09:46] <thoreauputic> hussam: I've never needed to defrag  a linux filesystem
[09:46] <action09> mustard5 yes sorry
[09:46] <thoreauputic> hussam: neither should you
[09:47] <Tidus> mustard5: only warty used xfree
[09:47] <action09> i will provide a nvidia bug report first to find why
[09:47] <agro1986> thoreauputic: no .bashrc in my home folder
[09:47] <mustard5> action09, possibly that might have helped or you could reset the xorg.conf and start again
[09:47] <action09> ok  thansk a lot all :)
[09:47] <aftertaf> action09: retry, from scratch... and youll need to rune the nvidia installer with the -uninstall option before ;)
[09:47] <thoreauputic> agro1986: well, that's a problem
[09:47] <Tidus> action09: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:47] <mustard5> action09, stick around while you are doing it
[09:47] <action09> yes ok :)
[09:47] <thoreauputic> agro1986: you kind of need one :)
[09:47] <nalioth> agro1986: make one, they come in really handy
[09:48] <mustard5> action09, I want to know the how the story ends :)
[09:48] <action09> sure
[09:48] <agro1986> thoreauputic: ok, what should I put in .bashrc to make colorful consoles?
[09:48] <nalioth> agro1986: if you ask uncle google "sample bashrc" or use the one in /etc/bash.bashrc (copy it your yours) to start you off
[09:48] <Madeye> guys, When we have to turn DMA on or OFF ?
[09:49] <Tidus> nalioth: if you don't have a .bashrc in your home folder, it uses the system global one in /etc
[09:49] <mustard5> Madeye, are you saying you want a DMA how to?
[09:49] <thoreauputic> Agrajag: I'll show you mine in /query if that's OK
[09:49] <thoreauputic> arghhh
[09:49] <Madeye> mustard5, yes if it's required to understand when I have to turn it on or off.
[09:49] <thoreauputic> agro1986: sorry that was for you
[09:49] <nalioth> Tidus: i know this, agro1986 is the one missing a ~/.bashrc
[09:50] <Tidus> and if he's missing one, it'll just use the system global
[09:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Madeye about dma
[09:50] <mustard5> Madeye, oh..ok well I am not sure when you turn it off.  People usually turn it on to stop jerkiness in their DVD playback
[09:50] <nalioth> Tidus: agro1986 wants to have colored console output
[09:50] <thoreauputic> agro1986: did you see my /query?
[09:50] <Terminus> the bashrc the OS gives to new users is also in /etc/skel
[09:50] <mustard5> Madeye, the how to just covers turning it on
[09:50] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Madeye about dman
[09:50] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Madeye about dma
[09:50] <Tidus> Madeye: the only time i had to turn DMA off was with my OLD cd burner... it flat refused to work if DMA was on
[09:51] <Madeye> aha, cool
[09:51] <Madeye> cheers guys :-)
[09:51] <Blah`> hey how do u by pass the write protection on the source.list ??
[09:51] <Madeye> Blah`, sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:51] <Blah`> thanks
[09:52] <Tidus> Blah`: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:52] <Blah`> i thought it was sudo
[09:52] <Madeye> heh
[09:53] <mustard5> Blah`, sudo is what allows those apps to have permission to edit
[09:53] <Madeye> actually there is no pico because it's replaced by nano, but because people are used to pico bleh, it's a shortcut for nano now
[09:53] <Tidus> meh... i use vim anyway
[09:53] <mustard5> Tidus, I just noticed the -w in yours, I've never seen that before :)
[09:54] <mustard5> Tidus, it must be the default with nano
[09:54] <Tidus> mustard5: that switch turns off line wrapping
[09:54] <mustard5> Tidus, ahh!
[09:54] <Madeye> mustard5,  just for wrapping texts
[09:54] <mustard5> Tidus, I'm learning :)
[09:54] <Tidus> mustard5: nothing wrong with that :)
[09:54] <Blah`> btw does anyone kno what site i can add to the sources.list to get kismet ?
[09:55] <mustard5> !info kismet
[09:55] <Tidus> Blah`: just enable the universe repository
[09:55] <ubotu> kismet: (Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2005.08.R1-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 983 kB, Installed size: 2920 kB
[09:55] <mustard5> universe
[09:55] <Blah`> how
[09:56] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Blah` about repositories
[09:56] <cbetan> Hello everybody. apt-get update is reporting some invalid signatures. What could that mean?
[09:56] <Tidus> Blah`: remove the '#' from the deb line containing 'universe' in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:56] <mustard5> Blah`, check pm from ubotu
[09:56] <cbetan> GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[09:56] <robotgeek> !tell cbetan about GPGerr
[09:56] <_native_> !gpg error
[09:56] <ubotu> _native_: Are you on ritalin?
[09:56] <_native_> duh
[09:56] <mustard5> _native_, one word
[09:56] <_native_> my bad
[09:57] <_native_> :-P
[09:57] <_native_> !gpgerror
[09:57] <ubotu> _native_: Are you on ritalin?
[09:57] <_native_> arrgh
[09:57] <xuniluser> HELP: do you know any offline browser that can download websites???
[09:57] <mustard5> gpgerr ;)
[09:57] <_native_> gosh
[09:57] <robotgeek> xuniluser: you can use wget to do that, though there's httrack also
[09:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> what would my odds be of successfully running ubuntu on this: Acer Aspire AS3003LCi Mobile Sempron AMD3000 15.0" 256MB 40GB DVD/CD-RW Combo SiS Mirage 2 NoteBook - Retail
[09:58] <xuniluser> robotgeek: oic.. thanks
[09:58] <mustard5> !gpgerr
[09:58] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[09:58] <robotgeek> xuniluser: webhttrack
[09:58] <_native_> what happens after 10 minutes exactly?
[09:59] <mustard5> _native_, I wouldnt have a clue :)
[09:59] <Habbie> the 10 minute wait makes no sense to me :)
[09:59] <mustard5> _native_, I just ignore gpg errors
[09:59] <mustard5> _native_, it doesnt stop stuff from installing
[09:59] <Blah`> ok thanks
[09:59] <Blah`> now how do i lock the sources.list file again?
[09:59] <cbetan> Thank you! Why did the GPG error happened in the first place? Any pointers to documentation?
[10:00] <Habbie> mustard5: that's a dangerous approach
[10:00] <mustard5> Blah`, what do you mean 'lock'?
[10:00] <cbetan> Did the ftpmaster change the gpg key?
[10:00] <Tidus> Blah`: just save and exit, and it's locked again
[10:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> do any of you guys know much about using ubuntu on an amd laptop?
[10:00] <_native_> sudo -K will drop your privs back down.
[10:00] <mustard5> Habbie, it is :)
[10:00] <_native_> instantly
[10:01] <mustard5> cbetan, its really just a connection issue that is doing it
[10:01] <Blah`> ok
[10:01] <nalioth> cbetan: it is nothing to do with you, it's a server glitch
[10:01] <Blah`> its fixed
[10:01] <Blah`> thanks alot
[10:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cbetan about gpgerr
[10:01] <cbetan> Hope you don't mind I insist, but how does a connection issue explain the gpg error?
[10:01] <mustard5> cbetan, I can hit reload in synaptic and get gpg errors every time..but I hardly ever get them with sudo apt-get update
[10:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> hmm..this sucks.
[10:02] <Tidus> adept for kubuntu is cool
[10:02] <cbetan> Alright, I guess I feel more confortable - was starting to get paranoic.
[10:02] <_native_> BROKEN_LADDER, why are you having issues because its a sempron
[10:02] <_native_> ?
[10:02] <mustard5> cbetan, you can try sudo apt-get update if you like...I guarantee that it will work better than synaptic ;)
[10:03] <_native_> cause i have seen several people with installation issues on that processor.
[10:03] <cbetan> It seems the GPG error is rather frequent - why so? The first bell it rings in my head is 'security compromise'
[10:03] <mustard5> cbetan, as it should
[10:03] <mustard5> cbetan, the unreliability of it will lead to complacency (take me as an example)
[10:04] <cbetan> even an apt-get from the command line (ssh root@localhost - I use key authentication) gives the same error.
[10:05] <Tidus> heh, i just got a GPG error on my debian box
[10:05] <Tidus> immediately tried agian and it worked
[10:05] <cbetan> Anyway, already applied the robot response.
[10:05] <penguin_roar> does anybody know a good host monitoring app for Ubuntu?
[10:05] <cbetan> For the time being it will be fixed, but what if it happens again? mustard5, as you point, unreliability will lead to complacency - and then we may have no defense against an attack
[10:06] <penguin_roar> like, ping a host and warn if it doesnt respond
[10:06] <cbetan> Is there any official statement regarding the GPG problem? Any Ubuntu employee in this room?
[10:06] <mustard5> cbetan, what mirror you downloading from ?
[10:07] <mustard5> cbetan, no employees around that I know of...mostly community members
[10:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> semprons have ubuntu issues? :/
[10:07] <cbetan> be.archive.ubuntu.com (for updates) and archive.ubuntu.com for the rest. Both give the gpg error
[10:07] <mustard5> cbetan, k
[10:08] <Orborde> cbetan: You could try #ubuntu-devel , but I'm just kind of guessing here
[10:08] <_native_> BROKEN_LADDER: im not fully sure but was helping a girl "she was not new to linux" for like an hour with hers, it just would not install.
[10:08] <cbetan> (quick question, mustard5: how do you address messages to me. I'm quite rusty on irc - it's been a long time...)
[10:09] <aftertaf>  /msg nick
[10:09] <_native_> BROKEN_LADDER: whats your issue?
[10:09] <mustard5> type the first few letters of my nick and hit tab key
[10:09] <_native_> BROKEN_LADDER: if any.
[10:09] <mustard5> cbetan, I type your name first
[10:09] <cbetan> mustard5, Let's see...
[10:09] <BROKEN_LADDER> issue?
[10:09] <BROKEN_LADDER> my issue is that if i were to buy that laptop, i would want to have ubuntu on it.
[10:09] <mustard5> cbetan, yep..its in red for me
[10:09] <BROKEN_LADDER> so..if that would be a problem, i probably wouldn't get it.
[10:09] <_native_> oh ok
[10:10] <_native_> i see
[10:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> but being able to get a nice fast laptop for 600$ is awesome.  you gotta love living in an era where computers are so ridiculously fast, that even a 2-year-old one is still plenty fast for most every day usage.
[10:10] <mustard5> cbetan, its the nick at the front that tells xchat to change the lettering color
[10:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> i could just leave windows on it but..god..i hate windows
[10:10] <mustard5> cbetan, its a necessary thing in here when its busy :)
[10:10] <_native_> BROKEN_LADDER: is it one of those nice little compaq s ?
[10:10] <cbetan> What is the difference, then between using /msg or just the nick?
[10:10] <aftertaf> msg sends a private message to the person
[10:10] <mustard5> cbetan, /msg will send me a pm that only I can see
[10:10] <_native_> BROKEN_LADDER: no its an acer huh.
[10:11] <mustard5> cbetan, you see that private message ?
[10:11] <cbetan> mustard5, got it
[10:11] <mustard5> cbetan, you registered your nick too?
[10:12] <cbetan> Is it possible to assign a sound alert when someone addresses me a message?
[10:12] <aftertaf> cbetan: depends on your irc client
[10:12] <cbetan> yes, my nick is registered. Why?
[10:12] <mustard5> cbetan, that gives you access to the bot if you are registerd..he will talk to you in PM
[10:12] <cbetan> X-Chat
[10:12] <_native_> cbetan: yes
[10:12] <aftertaf> yes for xchat, check in prefs!
[10:12] <mustard5> cbetan, try /msg ubotu gpgerr
[10:12] <_native_> you can do some cool stuf. custom sounds etcc...
[10:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> _native_ yeah, an acer.
[10:12] <dducko> Too much Black? http://www.myimagehub.com/files/603/toomuchblack.png
[10:13] <_native_> BROKEN_LADDER: those are cool.
[10:13] <_native_> BROKEN_LADDER: and the price isn't bad at all.
[10:13] <strike3> anybody help with wpa with acx chipset
[10:14] <_native_> hey what color does my text show up as to you guys?
[10:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> _native_ black
[10:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> _native_ i ignore all coloring crap
[10:14] <aftertaf> cbetan: np ;)
[10:14] <mustard5> _native_, black
[10:14] <_native_> ahh
[10:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> _native_ uh..so you think that laptop would probably work okay with ubuntu?
[10:14] <cbetan> Last time I used irc was to download movies; it was a very agressive environment. Thank you guys for your kind help
[10:14] <_native_> its grey on my end i hate it.
[10:14] <cbetan> aftertaf, you in france?
[10:14] <aftertaf> yes :)
[10:14] <mustard5> cbetan, np :)
[10:14] <nalioth> _native_: your client colores anything that mentions your nick
[10:14] <_native_> im not entierly sure.
[10:14] <cbetan> (I could remember /me ;-)
[10:15] <mustard5> strike3, what is wpa?
[10:15] <aftertaf> cbetan: cool ;) nice place :)
[10:15] <nalioth> mustard5: are ya pullin my leg?
[10:15] <_native_> i hate the grey and as dumb as it sounds i have'nt found how to change it in xchat.
[10:15] <nalioth> _native_: prefs
[10:15] <_native_> only your guys colors
[10:15] <mustard5> nalioth, I have no idea..or perhaps I am being senile ;)
[10:16] <strike3> mustard5: wireless security
[10:16] <_native_> yeah i can change yours but im so blind it seems that i dont see how to change mine.
[10:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=225282
[10:16] <aftertaf> wep protection algorithm ?
[10:16] <mustard5> strike3, ah ok
[10:16] <phiqtion> Good evening, i need help reinstalling the GRUB. it's completely gone after i installed Windows on a separate partition.
[10:16] <aftertaf> !grub
[10:16] <ubotu> I guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[10:16] <_native_> who wants to know wireless? i got cha on that ish.
[10:16] <_native_> security
[10:17] <mustard5> _native_, strike3
[10:18] <_native_> strike3: whats your question?
[10:18] <mustard5> _native_, wpa on acx chipset
[10:18] <phiqtion> nalioth, to reinstall GRUB. i need the LiveCD? i only have the installacion CD.
[10:18] <mustard5> _native_, he wants help..thats the ony info we have so far :)
[10:19] <hawking> I am on my university's network and trying to download torrents using azureus.But I always get a NAT error so I can't download well...Is there anyway to fix this problem? Do you know of any torrent programs that uses proxies?
[10:19] <strike3> _native_: cant get wpa supplicant setup - wireless was ok with no security - now trying to get wpa.
[10:19] <nalioth> phiqtion: it can be done from the install cd, but you really have to know what you're doing
[10:19] <_native_> wpa is implemented in software the chip is supposed to be irrelevant.
[10:19] <phiqtion> nalioth, give me the details bro.
[10:19] <robotgeek> hawking: maybe your university blocks torrents?
[10:19] <_native_> if your using wpa_supplicant that is or xsupplicant.
[10:19] <phiqtion> nalioth, i have some knowledge, but not yet a pro.
[10:20] <strike3> _native_@ wpa suplicant
[10:20] <nalioth> phiqtion: follow the installer til you answer the language and keyboard settings. at that point, click "go back" it should bring you to menu. choose "install bootloader"
[10:20] <hawking> robotgeek: yes I guess so but there are people here who uses proxies to get access to torrents...
[10:21] <phiqtion> nalioth, thanks
[10:21] <mustard5> phiqtion, good luck
[10:21] <phiqtion> thank you
[10:21] <_native_> strike3: hold on let me get at my configs
[10:22] <hawking> robotgeek: any ideas?
[10:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> is 2.8 kg pretty light for a laptop?
[10:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> 6.2 pounds i guess that would be on earth.
[10:22] <aftertaf> BROKEN_LADDER: depends if that is heavy or not ;)
[10:22] <robotgeek> hawking: nope,sorry
[10:23] <neeja> 2.8kg is pretty heavy
[10:23] <corza> hey guys, i ripped a DVD with DVDBackup and now the Vob files have crappy voice over commentary what have i done wrong?
[10:23] <aftertaf> cbetan: and messge in forum here :)
[10:25] <mattfury> hi
[10:25] <mustard5> welcome mattfury
[10:25] <mattfury> can i ask for some help, im using debian.
[10:25] <mattfury> cp: cannot stat `/home/matfury/fglrx-installer_8.18.6-1.tar.gz': No such file or directory
[10:25] <mattfury> after running:
[10:25] <mustard5> mattfury, I would say you are in the wrong working directory at a guess
[10:25] <mattfury> cp /home/mattfury/fglrx-installer_8.18.6-1.dsc /usr/src && cp /home/matfury/fglrx-installer_8.18.6-1.tar.gz /usr/src && cd /usr/src && dpkg-source -x fglrx-installer_8.18.6-1.dsc && dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot -tc -uc -D
[10:26] <mattfury> i am in /home/mattfury.
[10:26] <mattfury> and the file exists ...
[10:26] <_native_> strike3: did you read the wpa howto at the ubuntu wiki?
[10:26] <mustard5> mattfury, I can see the typo from here ;)
[10:26] <mustard5> mattfury, there are two 't's' in matt ;)
[10:27] <mattfury> if there werent two t's in my nick ... why wouldnt there be two t's in my home dir.
[10:27] <strike3> _native_: yes didnt work - i have acx card which i seen somewhere has problems
[10:27] <ccooke> mattfury: read the command string again carefully.
[10:27] <mustard5> mattfury, you have used one 't' in matt
[10:28] <mattfury> huh?
[10:28] <mattfury> d'Oh111!!..
[10:28] <mattfury> ....lol
[10:28] <strike3> _native_: card light comes on if i try to ping etc but no connection
[10:28] <mustard5> mattfury, well done :D
[10:29] <mustard5> mattfury, no pasting in main channel too ;)
[10:29] <mattfury> i did what it said.
[10:29] <mustard5> mattfury, read topic /topic
[10:29] <mattfury> what in #flood?
[10:29] <mustard5> yep
[10:29] <mustard5> I'm in there now
[10:29] <revmoo> hi, im getting no sound in avi files i have w32codecs installed and all other sound works, any ideas?
[10:29] <revmoo> xvid format..
[10:29] <mattfury> ok could you look at this mustard5 ?
[10:29] <mustard5> mustard5, yep
[10:30] <_native_> strike3: what i did was take it in steps get wireless working with no encryption, then WEP, then WPA. does WEP work with your card?
[10:30] <Bonarges> there
[10:30] <Bonarges> <--BonBon in windows
[10:31] <strike3> _native_: never tried wep
[10:31] <Bonarges> do you guys know if you can run Guild Wars in WINE?
[10:31] <_native_> strike3: you should.
[10:31] <revmoo> ive run it in cedega its slow though
[10:31] <Bonarges> yeah, thought it might be
[10:31] <phiqtion> nalioth, which partition i select from GRUB to write?
[10:31] <Bonarges> being streaming
[10:31] <revmoo> a 3ghz with 1gig of ram and a good vid card could prolly handle it ok
[10:31] <nalioth> phiqtion: the /mbr, i'd suspect
[10:32] <revmoo> but i have a celeron so its just too choppy
[10:32] <phiqtion> nalioth, no MBR in the menu
[10:32] <phiqtion> nalioth, it
[10:32] <Bonarges> how do i optomize the speed of my wireless card?  I've got it installed and configured, do i need to do port forwarding to get it to work?
[10:32] <nalioth> phiqtion: then you need to know the partition your linux is on
[10:32] <phiqtion> nalioth, i know that
[10:32] <_native_> strike3: i dont know your wireless expertise level so dont be insulted if i ask seemingly lame questions to find out what you do and dont know. :-] 
[10:32] <nalioth> phiqtion: thats the one to use
[10:32] <Bonarges> it's ok, i used to do tech support
[10:33] <Bonarges> so: yes, the computer is plugged in, it is on
[10:33] <Bonarges> lol
[10:33] <_native_> strike3: cause wireless can be tricky.
[10:33] <Bonarges> oh, talking to someoen else, lol, my bad
[10:33] <strike3> _native_: im new to linux  - i wont be offended
[10:33] <phiqtion> nalioth, are you sure? it seems it wants to erase the partition and copy everything to it. it doesn't look like it wants to install the GRUB.
[10:33] <nalioth> phiqtion: then stop where you are
[10:33] <Bonarges> it's amazing how much you learn about linux, just sitting in here and watching the scroll, lol
[10:33] <phiqtion> nalioth, done.
[10:34] <_native_> strike3: do you know if your card is 32 bit interface or 16 bit?
[10:34] <mattfury> can someone try to solve my problem?
[10:34] <mattfury> any (experienced) person.
[10:34] <mattfury> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4293
[10:34] <phiqtion> nalioth, i selected "install the grub boot loader on a hard disk" is this the correct option?
[10:34] <corza> hey guys, i ripped a DVD with DVDBackup and now the Vob files have crappy voice over commentary what have i done wrong?
[10:34] <nalioth> phiqtion: it is
[10:34] <Bonarges> corza: you have probably chosen the wrong streams, if it's like ripping is for windows
[10:34] <phiqtion> nalioth, well, the next menu is the same menu i got when i formatted my partiton 6 to ext3.
[10:35] <phiqtion> nalioth, in ubuntu
[10:35] <nalioth> mattfury: please dont post the "download" links for us, use the URL out of the address bar
[10:35] <corza> Bonarges: how can i choose the right streams?
[10:35] <strike3> _native_:  its acx111 dont know if that 32 or 16
[10:35] <mattfury> nalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4293
[10:35] <cyphase> argh
[10:36] <cyphase> my server isn't detecting the network
[10:36] <cyphase> at all
[10:36] <nalioth> mattfury: yes i see it. open the tar.gz and copy your .diff and .dsc into it
[10:36] <cyphase> but it configured DHCP during installation
[10:36] <phiqtion> nalioth, what do i do next?
[10:36] <mattfury> ok
[10:36] <Bonarges> corza, when you open your dvd ripper, does it give you a selection of files to choose from? the vobs?
[10:36] <nalioth> phiqtion: get a liveCD
[10:37] <_native_> strike3: so do you know the basics of bringing up a card by hand using the commandline?
[10:37] <phiqtion> nalioth, there must be a way. what do you would do in this menu to install grub?
[10:37] <corza> ? i just typed in to rip the whole movie
[10:37] <corza> in termina
[10:37] <corza> l
[10:37] <Bonarges> corza: this is an awesome website for rippers/endcoders, etc
[10:37] <Bonarges> www.doom9.org
[10:37] <nalioth> phiqtion: i'd back my stuff up and do as we have been doing
[10:37] <Bonarges> http://www.doom9.org/
[10:38] <Bonarges> it may have what you need to know
[10:38] <corza> i have a ripper.
[10:38] <Bonarges> i've only done ripping in windows
[10:38] <Bonarges> well, not just the programs, but faqs on using them
[10:38] <corza> i already have a ripper.. it's called CDBackup.
[10:38] <_native_> err
[10:39] <corza> DVDBackup*
[10:39] <corza> and i don't use windows
[10:39] <Bonarges> ah
[10:39] <Bonarges> I was hoping the program worked in a similar way
[10:39] <corza> no it has no GUI
[10:40] <Bonarges> ah
[10:40] <phiqtion> nalioth, does it have to do something with LVM?
[10:40] <Bonarges> well, you could run DVD Decrypter through wine, the Win proggy works real good, imo
[10:40] <Bonarges> ok, what files do you extract when you use dvdbackup?
[10:41] <Bonarges> like does it send them to a folder?
[10:41] <nalioth> phiqtion: it does not
[10:41] <corza> what files do i get i get vob files.
[10:41] <corza> thing is i dont have wine on my computer
[10:41] <Bonarges> ok, the biggest vob file is the movie
[10:41] <nalioth> corza: use dvdrip
[10:41] <Bonarges> the picture
[10:42] <corza> yeah i open the vob file and it opens and all it's the whole movie except it has commentary voice over
[10:42] <Bonarges> ok,when you ripped did it give you options to unpack files or did it just unpack everything
[10:43] <corza> ohhhh wait a minute!
[10:43] <corza> nevermind lol!! i was opening the wrong file :)
[10:43] <phiqtion> does dvdrip takes my dvd and changes it to mpg or avi?
[10:43] <phiqtion> in the hd
[10:44] <corza> actually, no i wasnt opening the wrong file.. it's just that when i open it in mplayer it has commantary and in totem it has it normal?? oh well i'm over it :P
[10:44] <nalioth> phiqtion: you can choose
[10:44] <Bonarges> :)
[10:44] <Bonarges> corza: glad i could help, lol
[10:44] <corza> lol you done a lot ;P
[10:44] <Bonarges> i still recommend doom9.org, lot of information on codecs
[10:44] <Bonarges> and ripping,etc
[10:45] <corza> meh i can't get alien to work with FrostWire.
[10:45] <phiqtion> nalioth, can we talk somewhere else?
[10:45] <Bonarges> maybe you could help me
[10:45] <clb_> is wine == winex_
[10:46] <clb_> ?
[10:46] <Bonarges> Do i need to port-forward my wireless card to get it to run
[10:46] <KaoticEvil> anyone care to lend a hanf for a second?
[10:46] <KaoticEvil> hand*
[10:46] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, depends no the problem :)
[10:46] <Bonarges> clb_:  for lack of better word, it's an emulator that runs windows programs in linux
[10:46] <mustard5> KaoticEvil,  whats the issue?
[10:47] <Bonarges> not a true emulator, or a true running of a second OS, but more like appropriating some windows operations to run the files in linux
[10:47] <clb_> Bonarges: yes but is there different packages or programs called wine and winex? or is there such thing as winex?
[10:47] <KaoticEvil> muep:  i just moved /home to its own partition, and that went flawlessly... but im at a loss as to what to enter into /etc/fstab for options, dump, and pass
[10:47] <corza> Bongares: what are you trying to 'run'?
[10:47] <Bonarges> clb_:  I belive xwine is the name, it's supposed to be a graphical interface for wine
[10:47] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, you want to see my fstab?
[10:47] <corza> i'd like to see your fstab ;)
[10:47] <KaoticEvil> ive already got the device, mount point, and filesystem
[10:47] <Bonarges> corza: well, most people use it for games, but i understand you can use it
[10:47] <Bonarges> for stuff like office
[10:48] <clb_> Bonarges: ok.. so is wine free? and cedega is commercial?
[10:48] <Bonarges> wine is free
[10:48] <J_Element> how do install .gz audio driver packages?
[10:48] <phiqtion> nalioth, i did it :)
[10:48] <corza> you mean gaming servers right?
[10:48] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4294
[10:48] <KaoticEvil> mustard5:  sure... ill see if i can extract what i need from it :)
[10:49] <Orborde> Bonarges: Cedega is "we let people download the source but we'll kill you if you try to do much with it", isn't it??
[10:49] <KaoticEvil> thanks
[10:49] <Bonarges> clb_: http://winehq.org/
[10:49] <corza> Bonagres: what are you trying to do with the wireless network card?
[10:49] <nalioth> phiqtion: great!
[10:49] <Bonarges> Orborde: I hear it's not as good as wine, but i've not used it so i can't say
[10:49] <KaoticEvil> i just cant believe that i moved an entire partition without rebooting...
[10:49] <KaoticEvil> ive been using windows too long LOL
[10:49] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, :)
[10:50] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, you see the link above?
[10:50] <KaoticEvil> mustard5:  i did
[10:50] <bobslaede> hey everybody... I've got a tiny problem with keyboard layouts.
[10:50] <mustard5> k
[10:50] <KaoticEvil> what are the dump and pass options for anyway?
[10:50] <bobslaede> you anybody got a minute :)
[10:50] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, I have no idea ;)
[10:50] <KaoticEvil> LOL ok
[10:50] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, I'm as much in the dark as you
[10:50] <KaoticEvil> well, i got what i needed.. thanks :)
[10:51] <Habbie> KaoticEvi: the pass-options influence the order in which the filesystems are checked
[10:51] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, k
[10:51] <KaoticEvil> Habbie:  with fsck?
[10:51] <Habbie> KaoticEvi: yes
[10:51] <KaoticEvil> ok
[10:51] <KaoticEvil> and the dump options?
[10:51] <Habbie> man dump :)
[10:51] <corza> Bonarges: what are you trying to do with your wireless network card?
[10:51] <KaoticEvil> doh
[10:51] <KaoticEvil> No manual entry for dump
[10:52] <Habbie> oh ;)
[10:52] <mustard5> bobslaede, describe your problem plz
[10:52] <Habbie> in any case, dump is a backup tool
[10:52] <KaoticEvil> lol
[10:52] <KaoticEvil> ..
[10:52] <Habbie> and that column can specify whether or not a partition should be backed up etc.
[10:52] <{dss}> Anyone used snort?
[10:52] <mustard5> bobslaede, if someone knows they will put their hand up to help
[10:52] <KaoticEvil> oh, ok
[10:52] <bobslaede> mustard5: yes sir :)
[10:52] <mustard5> :)
[10:53] <KaoticEvil> ok, thanks mustard5 and Habbie :)
[10:53] <KaoticEvil> yall are great :)
[10:53] <mustard5> KaoticEvil, your welcome
[10:53] <Habbie> np :)
[10:54] <bobslaede> I have two layouts, danish, and us english, us for coding. And i can swicht 'em, except for one app (zend develpment enviroment), only danish works there. in my xorg.conf the layout is "us", and the current layout of gnome is en_US, but not this program. The app itself cannot be configured with layouts
[10:55] <mustard5> bobslaede, you got any easier questions ;)
[10:55] <mustard5> hehe
[10:55] <bobslaede> good enough mustard5?
[10:55] <bobslaede> hehe
[10:55] <mustard5> bobslaede, thats very good
[10:55] <mustard5> bobslaede, I wish I knew the answer :)
[10:55] <bobslaede> i wish so too
[10:55] <mustard5> bobslaede, hopefully someone will
[10:55] <mustard5> bobslaede, its pretty quiet in here atm though
[10:55] <bobslaede> mustard5, hopefully
[10:56] <AngryClip> bobslaede, you might be better asking that in a zend dev env support group, if every other program is working, it looks zend specific
[10:56] <bobslaede> i'll wait with patience... its just really hard coding with the danish layout
[10:56] <AngryClip> you never know thugh, someone here might know
[10:56] <bobslaede> mustard5: it worked until i upgraded to breezy
[10:56] <AngryClip> hello internet btw... I just woke up :D
[10:56] <kestas> guys is there any way of delaying the login time so that I log in before it automatically tries to join ubuntu?
[10:57] <nalioth> J_Element: did you need something?
[10:57] <bobslaede> kestas: yes
[10:57] <AngryClip> kestas, you talking IRC/XCHAT ?
[10:57] <bobslaede> kestas: system > admin > login
[10:57] <mustard5> kestas, I have that issue myself...I get dumped into #ubuntu-unregged sometimes
[10:57] <highvoltage> I just looked at: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+specstable
[10:57] <bobslaede> kestas: if youre in gnome ;)
[10:57] <kestas> Im in gnome
[10:58] <highvoltage> does this mean Ubuntu 6.04 will support amd64, arm, hppa, i386, powerpc and sparc?
[10:58] <kestas> using xchat
[10:58] <Habbie> bobslaede: that's not what he means
[10:58] <bobslaede> kestas: but i misunderstood you
[10:58] <kestas> and I mean logging into irc
[10:58] <idimmu> hi, how can do i install the gpg keys to do package authentication when i apt-get stuff?
[10:58] <bobslaede> :[
[10:58] <bobslaede> its still early, and i have only had 3 cups of coffee
[10:58] <kestas>  guys can you please help me with a way of filtering out everything between < and > in a document, so if there was < asdf> the ' asdf' would get filtered out?
[10:59] <idimmu> kestas: man perl or man sed !
[10:59] <kestas> idimmu, I know but I don't know perl and dont want to learn just for this
[10:59] <jack-> man sed
[10:59] <kestas> and I cant get my head around the right regex
[10:59] <jack-> its the thing you want
[11:00] <mustard5> idimmu, they should work already
[11:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone here ever gotten one of those 3g pdas to work as a usb modem in ubuntu?
[11:00] <mustard5> idimmu, what repository are you using?
[11:01] <idimmu> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted
[11:01] <idimmu> that one !
[11:01] <idimmu> i expect
[11:01] <mustard5> idimmu, you can reset your gpg keys to default in synaptic
[11:01] <idimmu> ok
[11:02] <thoreauputic> kestas: re: xchat login - put your password in the server field instead of the nickserv field
[11:02] <mustard5> idimmu, look under settings>repositories>authentication button
[11:02] <jack-> guys, stupid question..i have a hoary box that runs fine; how would i go about updating it to breezy? just update sources.list and run apt-get dist-upgrade?
[11:02] <thoreauputic> kestas: works fine
[11:02] <idimmu> cheers
[11:02] <nerdy2> kestas, something like sed "s/.*<\(.*\)>.*/\1/"  would work if there were only one <> thing
[11:02] <mustard5> idimmu, good luck
[11:02] <strike3_> _native_: you still there
[11:02] <idimmu> thanks <3
[11:03] <idimmu> ok ive done that, now to test !
[11:03] <jack-> yes? no? maybe? thanks
[11:03] <jack-> :~
[11:04] <mustard5> strike3, he was talking to you when you disappeared last :)
[11:04] <AngryClip> kestas, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nocloakxchat
[11:04] <mustard5> strike3, his last message was   'err...' :)
[11:04] <strike3_> msg nickserv link strike3 lauren
[11:05] <mustard5> strike3_, :)
[11:05] <jack-> guys, stupid question..i have a hoary box that runs fine; how would i go about updating it to breezy? just update sources.list and run apt-get dist-upgrade?
[11:05] <Habbie> jack-: see topic :)
[11:05] <mustard5> !breezy
[11:05] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:05] <Lathiat> jack-: apt-get update before the dist-upgrade
[11:05] <phiqtion> is there a way to edit the GRUB entries?
[11:05] <jack-> thanks
[11:06] <mustard5> phiqtion, yep I think its called menu.lst or something
[11:06] <Habbie> in /boot/grub/ I think :)
[11:06] <thoreauputic> phiqtion:  sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:06] <hyphenated> should be /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:06] <thoreauputic> phiqtion: or your choice of editor of course :)
[11:06] <hyphenated> but be careful, because if you break it, you'll have trouble booting :-)
[11:06] <mustard5> phiqtion, make a backup first
[11:07] <idimmu> Install these packages without verification [y/N] ? y
[11:07] <idimmu> Get:1 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe bluefish 1.0.1-0ubuntu3 [
[11:07] <idimmu> mustard5:  :cry:
[11:07] <idimmu> im not sure if it's just universe stuff though
[11:07] <mustard5> !gpgerr
[11:07] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[11:07] <thoreauputic> idimmu: well you know the URL so it's pretty safe I guess
[11:08] <Habbie> thoreaupu: don't recommend that to people :)
[11:08] <thoreauputic> idimmu: I get that from time to time here too
[11:08] <thoreauputic> Habbie: *cough* look at the URL - do you think it's spoofed?
[11:08] <idimmu> ah well, it's only because im lazy :D
[11:08] <AngryClip> fatty
[11:08] <_native_> mustard5: man isnt that annoying.
[11:08] <idimmu> actually my /etc/hosts file points that address to a romanian site :o
[11:08] <idimmu> sup AngryClip
[11:09] <mustard5> _native_, strike3_ is looking for you :)
[11:09] <idimmu> this is where *i* have to go to get help too :o
[11:09] <AngryClip> heh
[11:09] <mustard5> strike3_, you around now?
[11:09] <phiqtion> the menu.1st file is blank
[11:09] <mustard5> phiqtion, you sure you got the right directory
[11:09] <mustard5> ?
[11:09] <strike3_> mustard5: yes
[11:10] <mustard5> strike3_, _native_ is back
[11:10] <thoreauputic> phiqtion: lst not 1st
[11:10] <thoreauputic> phiqtion: it's an "ell"
[11:10] <hyphenated> phiqtion: short for "list"
[11:10] <thoreauputic> not a "one"
[11:10] <_native_> where oh where could strike3 be the reboot took'em away from me. he's gone to the internet so i got be good so i can help strike3 use the W E P :-P
[11:10] <_native_> no
[11:10] <_native_> no
[11:10] <mustard5> :D
[11:10] <_native_> no DCC
[11:10] <_native_> !
[11:10] <ubotu> _native_: Wish i knew
[11:11] <_native_> only pm
[11:11] <strike3_> _native_: how did you start the seperate windoe the last time
[11:12] <_native_> like that
[11:13] <voth> can someone point me to where i can grab libavcodec, which repo might have it
[11:14] <thoreauputic> peter@prospero:~ $ apt-cache search libavcodec
[11:14] <thoreauputic> libavcodec-dev - development files for libavcodec
[11:14] <thoreauputic> voth: probably multiverse
[11:14] <thoreauputic> !info libavcodec
[11:15] <thoreauputic> damn
[11:15] <thoreauputic> !info libavcodec-dev
[11:15] <ubotu> libavcodec-dev: (development files for libavcodec), section universe/libdevel, is optional. Version: 3:0.cvs20050918-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2363 kB, Installed size: 6572 kB
[11:15] <thoreauputic> ther's no libavcodec - only the -dev version
[11:15] <voth> i need the dev version
[11:16] <thoreauputic> voth: well if you read ubotu you'll see it's in universe
[11:16] <voth> needed to un-# it in my sources.list
[11:17] <BockBilbo> hello
[11:17] <thoreauputic> voth: if you are compiling something that needs that I suggest you enable multiverse as well
[11:17] <mustard5> welcome BockBilbo
[11:18] <thoreauputic> voth: a lot of multimedia stuff is non-free
[11:18] <voth> really, it shouldn't take an act of congress to get a dvd to play
[11:18] <thoreauputic> voth: in the US it would :)
[11:18] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[11:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[11:18] <mustard5> voth, what you using to play DVD?
[11:19] <voth> well, i'm following the instruction to install mplayer from the ubuntuforums.org site
[11:19] <BockBilbo> thanks nalioth
[11:19] <nalioth> BockBilbo: np
[11:19] <thoreauputic> voth: you know that mplayer is in the repos, right?
[11:20] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer-386
[11:20] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB
[11:20] <thoreauputic> ..or mplayer-586  etc
[11:21] <mustard5> voth, we have complete instructions for setting up DVD if you wish
[11:21] <voth> which repo, because it can't find it
[11:21] <mustard5> voth, well lets work on your sources.list first then
[11:21] <voth> ok
[11:21] <mustard5> voth, you on breezy?
[11:21] <voth> yep
[11:22] <thoreauputic> voth:  mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics  <<----
[11:22] <BockBilbo> got a question related to gpl, but not to ubuntu. I have to install a picture viewer on my granpa's computer, which uses win98 (my family didnt allow me to install him ubuntu or any other linux distro). I wanted to know if any of you know of a nice image viewer program based on gpl  that doesnt use much memory for him?
[11:22] <voth> where is that
[11:22] <thoreauputic> so you need the word "multiverse" at the end of your "universe" lines
[11:23] <mustard5> voth, type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list for me in terminal
[11:23] <thoreauputic> in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:23] <mustard5> voth, then go to this link and copy and paste the sources.list there over the top of your old sources.list
[11:23] <mustard5> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[11:25] <mustard5> voth, then save and run sudo apt-get update
[11:25] <thoreauputic> BockBilbo: well, the gimp is available for windows, but that might be overkill
[11:26] <BockBilbo> thoreauputic, perhaps that more and image editor than an image viewer
[11:26] <thoreauputic> BockBilbo: true
[11:26] <mustard5> BockBilbo, I don't know of a gpl one, but I know I like irfanview on windows :)
[11:26] <BockBilbo> perhaps i was thinking on a program similar to gthumb
[11:26] <thoreauputic> BockBilbo: did you try googling for "open source image viewer windows"  ?
[11:27] <voth> ok, which mplayer to install now?
[11:27] <mustard5> BockBilbo,  you searched at sourceforge.net?
[11:27] <BockBilbo> i tried it with gpl insted of open source
[11:27] <BockBilbo> ok
[11:27] <BockBilbo> gonna try to search google for that and also sf
[11:27] <BockBilbo> :)
[11:27] <BockBilbo> thanks mustard5 thoreauputic
[11:27] <BockBilbo> :)
[11:27] <mustard5> voth, what kernel you running?
[11:28] <thoreauputic> BockBilbo: this might help: http://www.jairlie.com/oss/suggestedapplications.html
[11:28] <vini> can I enable the CD eject by the driver button?
[11:28] <mustard5> voth, and what cpu you have?
[11:28] <mustard5> voth, kernel version is returned with the command uname -r
[11:29] <voth>  2.6.12-9-386
[11:29] <aftertaf> voth: whats your cpu?
[11:29] <mustard5> voth, ok 386
[11:29] <mustard5> voth, cpu?
[11:29] <aftertaf> ;) mustard5
[11:29] <voth> p4 2.4ghz
[11:29] <BockBilbo> thanks thoreauputic :) http://www.jairlie.com/oss/suggestedapplications.html#graphics i have some there
[11:29] <BockBilbo> :()
[11:29] <BockBilbo> :)
[11:29] <aftertaf> linux-686
[11:30] <mustard5> voth, ok mplayer-586
[11:30] <aftertaf> voth: install linux-686 package then
[11:30] <thoreauputic> BockBilbo: :))
[11:30] <thoreauputic> the 586 and 686 mplayers are identical I think
[11:30] <dystopianray> how can I disable the X cursor? I'm running a fullscreen game that renders it's own cursor and I need to stop the X cursor from appearing
[11:30] <mustard5> voth, I might be wrong on that :)
[11:30] <mustard5> voth, hehe
[11:31] <mustard5> voth, you got nvidia drivers installed?
[11:31] <voth> my choices - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4295
[11:31] <BockBilbo> thanks to all
[11:31] <BockBilbo> :)
[11:31] <BockBilbo> i gotta go
[11:31] <BockBilbo> bye!
[11:31] <voth> no, actually. haven't installed the nvidia drivers
[11:31] <mustard5> BockBilbo, cya
[11:31] <BockBilbo> bye
[11:32] <aftertaf> voth: then dont ;)
[11:32] <voth> should i install 586 then
[11:32] <mustard5> voth, well you could go with the mplayer-386 or you could install a 686 kernel and use mplayer-686
[11:33] <aftertaf> voth: do that ^^^^^
[11:33] <mustard5> voth, if you have nvidia card then you will need and extra 686 restricted module for your kernel
[11:33] <NoobieDoobieDo> hrm...gaim keeps freezing (live cd horay)
[11:33] <NoobieDoobieDo> but only in yahoo chat rooms.
[11:33] <thoreauputic> voth: keep it simple and install the mplayer-386 package - you won't see a big difference
[11:34] <mustard5> nalioth, no?
[11:34] <voth> i'll just keep it simple, no reason to make this anything like rocket science
[11:34] <mustard5> nalioth, it says 686 in synaptic
[11:35] <thoreauputic> mustard5: it's a "transitional package" - it installs 586
[11:35] <nalioth> mustard5: can you say
[11:35] <nalioth> dummy package?
[11:35] <mustard5> yep
[11:35] <Terra-Niux> Hello how can I make ubuntu boot into a command prompt not a desktop
[11:36] <thoreauputic> Terra-Niux:  echo "false" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[11:36] <nalioth> Terra-Niux: check your priv msgs
[11:37] <blueblood> How do I mount a samba share?
[11:37] <Terra-Niux> its for a server so im only going to ssh into it from another computer
[11:37] <aftertaf> Terra-Niux: you did the default installation?
[11:37] <thoreauputic> Terra-Niux: then uninstall gdm
[11:37] <Terra-Niux> yeah
[11:37] <aftertaf> you can also remove X completely if it wont be needed
[11:37] <NoobieDoobieDo> it must be a violation to include java w/the OS.
[11:38] <NoobieDoobieDo> cause ive yet to see a system that comes w/it
[11:38] <Terra-Niux> okay how would that be done? uninstalling x that is
[11:38] <thoreauputic> NoobieDoobieDo: it is if it's Sun Java
[11:38] <NoobieDoobieDo> IC.
[11:38] <mustard5> voth, I think mplayer-586 will work
[11:38] <NoobieDoobieDo> so, someone could use say, blackdowns java ?
[11:38] <thoreauputic> NoobieDoobieDo: there's a free java included, but it isn't all that functional
[11:38] <voth> installed 386
[11:38] <mustard5> voth, it seems to for your processor
[11:38] <aftertaf> Terra-Niux: sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg
[11:38] <mustard5> voth, k
[11:38] <thoreauputic> NoobieDoobieDo: yes, in fact it's in the repos
[11:39] <mustard5> voth, as long as it plays ;)
[11:39] <mustard5> voth, its all good :)
[11:39] <ompaul> Terra-Niux, if you are going to build a server on another machine to save the grief you are about to undergo you can install the server version - by typing server on the command line as the machine boots up and pauses during the install
[11:39] <mustard5> voth, you want how to on setting up DVD play?
[11:39] <ompaul> Terra-Niux, there is also a 'Server' CD version
[11:39] <NoobieDoobieDo> thoreauputic, ic.
[11:39] <thoreauputic> NoobieDoobieDo:  j2re1.4
[11:39] <voth> mplayer doesn't like my dvd+-rw drive, though likes my old standby
[11:39] <thoreauputic> !info j2re1.4
[11:39] <ubotu> j2re1.4: (Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition), section multiverse/devel, is optional. Version: 1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 21982 kB, Installed size: 58892 kB
[11:39] <Terra-Niux> ah I see
[11:40] <NoobieDoobieDo> this channel owns.
[11:40] !lilo:*! Services will be restarted in a moment to restore a single-channel backup. Please bear with us.
[11:40] <dorto> how to install mediawiki on ubuntu?
[11:40] <NoobieDoobieDo> ima start hanging out here.
[11:40] <nalioth> ompaul: got a linky to d/l ubuntu-server?
[11:40] <ompaul> nalioth, in a moment I will :-)
[11:40] <nalioth> uh oh
[11:40] <mustard5> chanserv gone!
[11:40] <mustard5> hehe
[11:41] <dorto> any mirror u know from where i can apt-get mediawiki?
[11:41] <thoreauputic> voth: :)
[11:41] <mustard5> voth, np
[11:41] <aftertaf> lol
[11:41] <aftertaf>  :)
[11:41] <mustard5> voth, come back anytime :)
[11:41] <aftertaf> or dont even bother disconnecting ;)
[11:42] <mustard5> that too :D
[11:42] <ompaul> nalioth, I only have the torrent on my machine back in a mo have to grep some mail to find it
[11:43] <NoobieDoobieDo> Ive used like 8 or 10 distro's (including livecds). Ubuntu is my favorite.
[11:43] <aftertaf> yeah for ubuntu
[11:43] <NoobieDoobieDo> yes, very much so.
[11:43] <mustard5> dorto, mediawiki is in the universe repository
[11:44] <mustard5> ubotu: tell dorto about repositories
[11:48] <mustard5> gone awful quiet in here :)
[11:48] <NoobieDoobieDo> ;)
[11:48] <wickedpuppy> the bot should be made op in case there is no op when services are down
[11:48] <NoobieDoobieDo> anyone here a kvirc fan ?
[11:49] <mustard5> wb ChanServ
[11:49] <Vespoli> :)
[11:50] <ignotus> hello, how can I run 32bit binary on amd64?
[11:50] <ompaul> nalioth, the last place you look is the first place you find it :-)  http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ubuntu-server/5.10/
[11:51] !lilo:*! Service restored.... thank you for your patience!
[11:54] <TNTales> there
[11:54] <bimberi> ubotu tell ignotus about chroot
[11:54] <TNTales> oyu
[11:54] <mustard5> ignotus, I think everyone is tied up in another channel doing something
[11:54] <TNTales> ok, question
[11:54] <TNTales> I'm at the partition manager
[11:54] <TNTales> and I need to mount
[11:55] <mustard5> TNTales, you might explain your goal first
[11:55] <NoobieDoobieDo> mount what
[11:55] <TNTales> ok, I have an Error 17 from grub
[11:55] <TNTales> so I can't boot up my OS, ubuntu or windows
[11:55] <TNTales> supposedly using the partition manager w/the ubuntu install disk
[11:55] <mustard5> so you want to restore grub?
[11:56] <TNTales> i can restore them by remounting the partitions
[11:56] <TNTales> yes, restore grub
[11:56] <mustard5> TNTales, you read the wiki guide?
[11:56] <TNTales> i read the forum post
[11:56] <TNTales> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113
[11:56] <TNTales> it's a HowTO restore GRUB
[11:56] <mustard5> TNTales, ok..we have a wiki guide in here it might be the same I dont know
[11:56] <mustard5> !grub
[11:56] <ubotu> grub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:57] <ignotus> bimberi: thx
[11:57] <bimberi> ignotus: yw :)
[11:57] <TNTales> 17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[11:57] <TNTales> This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB.
[11:58] <mustard5> TNTales, you got a liveCD?
[11:58] <TNTales> no
[11:58] <mustard5> TNTales, hmmm k
[11:58] <TNTales> i was trying the install cd method
[11:59] <TNTales> i just don't know what commands mount the existing partition that it's not recognizing
[11:59] <TNTales> when i get to !!! partition disks
[11:59] <holycow> *hmmm*
[11:59] <holycow> i'm loving banshee music player
[11:59] <holycow> sweet
[11:59] <holycow> support for ipod too apearently
[11:59] <TNTales> I just see IDE master (hda) - 60.0 GB IC25N060ATMR04-4
[11:59] <mustard5> TNTales, what is the fileformat?
[11:59] <TNTales> no partitions listed
[11:59] <TNTales> ok, i have an NTFS for windows
[12:00] <TNTales> an ext3 for linux
[12:00] <TNTales> and a big FAT32 (VFAT) for file swapping
[12:00] <TNTales> i had to use the windows disk manager to make that last partition so windows would see it
[12:00] <TNTales> couldn't find manual mounting instructions
[12:01] <mustard5> TNTales, man mount
[12:01] <TNTales> If I'm screwed I"ll just do a clean reinstall, but after 4 days of work, I woudl like to know taht I won't have to do all that again
[12:01] <TNTales> no, i mean teh commands in WINDOWS
[12:01] <TNTales> i can do it in linux
[12:01] <mustard5> TNTales, I have no idea about windows
[12:01] <kbrooks> TNTales: have the livecd?
[12:01] <kbrooks> use it
[12:02] <kbrooks> ubuntu livecd
[12:02] <TNTales> kbrooks no i don't have it
[12:02] <mustard5> kbrooks, he doesnt :)
[12:02] <kbrooks> TNTales: you dont? burned it yourself
[12:02] <kbrooks> ?
[12:02] <TNTales> it's 6 am here, I just got everything working and this bull happens
[12:02] <TNTales> yeah, i dld the ISO for the install
[12:03] <TNTales> and did everything on my own (with lots of RT-ing of the FM-s and late night chats)
[12:03] <TNTales> Just had everything installed, got everything running (except the wireless ports forwarded) wine, all that
[12:03] <TNTales> and now this... this... BGULLSHIT
[12:03] <TNTales> ngaaaaah
[12:03] <mustard5> TNTales, stay calm :)
[12:03] <TNTales> *deep breath*
[12:03] <TNTales> this is fixable
[12:04] <mustard5> TNTales, I'm thinking about it...
[12:04] <mustard5> TNTales, its new to me too
[12:04] <TNTales> i appreciate it, I'm just sleepy
[12:04] <mustard5> TNTales, now I imagine you have to mount these drives on a directory
[12:04] <kbrooks> TNTales: go to bed, u need a fresh head
[12:04] <TNTales> I work on this when I'm not at work, and catch a little sleep here and there, heh
[12:04] <TNTales> yeah, see, the thing is, they are still on there
[12:05] <TNTales> the windows install cd shows the partitions still existing with the files intact
[12:05] <kbrooks> yes
[12:05] <TNTales> grub just doesn't see them and neither does the ubuntu loader
[12:05] <kbrooks> but grub wont boot it
[12:05] <TNTales> right, won't boot
[12:05] <kbrooks> yeah ...
[12:05] <TNTales> and if you try to install grub (from the list of things in the install cd)
[12:05] <TNTales> it takes you to the partition manager
[12:05] <TNTales> I may just have to download the livecd
[12:05] <kbrooks> it SEES the harddisk, and it even sees the menu.lst
[12:06] <kbrooks> no problem with that
[12:06] <TNTales> it shows it as empty though, not even w/free space
[12:06] <kbrooks> it just cant detect ... huh?
[12:06] <TNTales> just the IDE MASTER
[12:06] <kbrooks> empoty?
[12:06] <kbrooks> define empty?
[12:06] <TNTales> no partitions
[12:06] <TNTales> nothing
[12:06] <TNTales> just the IDE MASTER (HDA) BLASHAHA
[12:07] <kbrooks> TNTales: win32 doesnt detect those ext3 partitions
[12:07] <TNTales> right, not in windows
[12:07] <bungle> COuld my PSU be maken my pc reboot randomly ... and on ocasions not letting the monitor come out of suspend
[12:07] <TNTales> but the windows install cd
[12:07] <TNTales> has a partiton manager
[12:07] <kbrooks> TNTales: yes i know that
[12:07] <mustard5> TNTales, I heard something like this earlier..you go to the language setup part, then hit <back> and it will show a menu and you can go to an option to setup boot manager
[12:07] <TNTales> and it shows those partitions
[12:08] <TNTales> ok, setup boot manager... looking
[12:08] <kbrooks> TNTales: ubuntu install cd, use it'
[12:08] <TNTales> I'm using it
[12:08] <kbrooks> mustard5: oh wait there is a problem with that
[12:08] <TNTales> kbrooks that's what i was telling you, the partition manager
[12:08] <TNTales> is what is not seeing my partitions
[12:08] <kbrooks> you have to install the base system first
[12:09] <TNTales> so i have to reinstall unbutu?
[12:09] <TNTales> like start over?
[12:09] <kbrooks> TNTales: no
[12:09] <TNTales> ok, whew
[12:09] <nalioth> kbrooks: got a new perspective on mr gibson?
[12:09] <TNTales> ok, when i select "Install GRUB Boot Loader"
[12:09] <kbrooks> grab the livecd and boot it up. you'll want to check around
[12:09] <TNTales> it takes me to "{!!]  PARTITION disks"
[12:09] <kbrooks> for any partitions
[12:10] <TNTales> ok, I'll go dl the damned live cd
[12:10] <mustard5> TNTales,  and partition disks give you an error?
[12:10] <kbrooks> TNTales: the menuitem depends on that other menuitem
[12:10] <TNTales> no, what I see is
[12:10] <mustard5> TNTales, the how to says to choose manual partition at that stage
[12:11] <TNTales> IDE1 master (hda) - 60.0 GB IC25N060ATMR04-0
[12:11] <kbrooks> mustard5: please!
[12:11] <TNTales> so select the master and do manual partition?
[12:11] <kbrooks> mustard5: he does not need to startover just yet
[12:12] <kbrooks> TNTales: Nope. pressing enter on wthe master will ask you if you want to clear the partition table
[12:12] <TNTales> i hope i was supposed to pick yes there
[12:12] <kbrooks> effectively destroying all data
[12:12] <TNTales> or that undo works
[12:12] <kbrooks> TNTales: it works
[12:12] <TNTales> whew
[12:12] <TNTales> ok
[12:12] <TNTales> so i pick NO there or YES?
[12:13] <kbrooks> just go back and show us what the partitions are
[12:13] <kbrooks> say no, ...
[12:13] <TNTales> ok, when i pick no
[12:13] <TNTales> it goes back to that same screen
[12:13] <TNTales> nothing there
[12:13] <kbrooks> TNTales: huh?
[12:13] <TNTales> just the IDE thingy
[12:13] <kbrooks> undo
[12:13] <TNTales> ok
[12:14] <kbrooks> and dont touch anything else
[12:14] <TNTales> ok, when i hit ENTER on the MASTER
[12:14] <kbrooks> TNTales: NO
[12:14] <TNTales> it asks if I want to prepare a partition table
[12:14] <TNTales> of free space
[12:14] <kbrooks> TNTales: i already described what it does
[12:14] <TNTales> ok, I selected NO
[12:15] <kbrooks> TNTales: please say no and show us the partition information
[12:15] <kbrooks> we need it ;)
[12:15] <TNTales> ok
[12:15] <TNTales> it doesn't say anythign different, that's what I've been trying to tell you
[12:15] <Magic07> i have installed  ubuntu on my imac...everything went fine but the root is set sdb4 in yaboot but was installed on sdc4...any suggestions on how to fix this
[12:15] <TNTales> it goes back to IDE1 master...
[12:15] <TNTales> no partitions
[12:15] <TNTales> not even free space
[12:15] <TNTales> no table, nothing
[12:16] <kbrooks> TNTales: reboot and recheck. i'm not even sure that is even possible
[12:16] <TNTales> aborting, rebooting
[12:16] <TNTales> ubuntu installer is loading... ....
[12:17] <Siropel> anyone got some ideas why /etc/init.d/apache2 start won't start apache ?
[12:17] <TNTales> ok, i'm at the default installation stage "Press ENTER"
[12:17] <TNTales> booting install
[12:17] <kbrooks> TNTales: okay
[12:17] <TNTales> ok, we're back to the select your language
[12:17] <kbrooks> TNTales: go back, select partition
[12:18] <mustard5> Siropel, I'm thinking you just use apache
[12:18] <kbrooks> mustard5: No.
[12:18] <mustard5> Siropel, I can't recall though
[12:19] <Siropel> mustard5 i used it, but stoped it
[12:19] <kbrooks> Siropel: Did you install apache or apache2
[12:19] <kbrooks> TNTales: ping
[12:19] <Siropel> both
[12:19] <TNTales> kbrooks do i go through all the steps before partition?
[12:19] <Siropel> but apache is stoped
[12:19] <kbrooks> TNTales: NO.
[12:19] <kbrooks> No*
[12:19] <TNTales> ok
[12:20] <TNTales> ok, i hit escape (at the language select)
[12:20] <TNTales> it gives me the following options
[12:20] <TNTales> Choose Language
[12:20] <TNTales> Select A Keyboard Layout
[12:20] <TNTales> Detect and Mount a CD-ROM
[12:20] <TNTales> Load Installer Components from CD
[12:20] <Marlun> I need some help, I'm new to linux/ubuntu but have just installed ubuntu on a Virtual PC to test it, but I'm not able to enter the character @ for some reason, I'm on a swedish keyboard and everything works except when I hit <AlrGr + 2> nothing happends. What can be wrong?
[12:21] <TNTales> Change Debconf priiorty
[12:21] <TNTales> Check CD-ROM integrity
[12:21] <TNTales> Execute a Shell
[12:21] <TNTales> and Abort Installation
[12:21] <kbrooks> TNTales: erm. you were at a later stage in the installer, right?
[12:21] <TNTales> no, i hadn't moved
[12:22] <TNTales> ok, i'll start...
[12:22] <TNTales> detecting hardware....
[12:22] <kbrooks> TNTales: k
[12:22] <TNTales> scanning cd rom....
[12:22] <kbrooks> k
[12:22] <TNTales> loading additional components....
[12:22] <kbrooks> TNTales: ubuntu breezy?
[12:22] <TNTales> detectin network hardware..
[12:22] <TNTales> kbrooks yes
[12:22] <kbrooks> kk.
[12:23] <TNTales> 5.10, latest build
[12:23] <kbrooks> TNTales: did it boot before?
[12:23] <TNTales> network is of course unplugged
[12:23] <TNTales> yes, I've been working in it for some time
[12:23] <TNTales> almost a week
[12:23] <TNTales> got wine installed and configured, got all my apps, got my desktop like i like it
[12:23] <kbrooks> i mean ubuntu
[12:24] <TNTales> yes, ubuntu
[12:24] <kbrooks> kk.
[12:24] <TNTales> even had little penguin icons :****(
[12:24] <kbrooks> so at 6, this just happens
[12:24] <TNTales> yup
[12:24] <kbrooks> without warning?
[12:24] <TNTales> ok: what i did just before
[12:24] <kbrooks> what about yesterday?
[12:24] <TNTales> was in windows, downloading stuff from steam
[12:24] <TNTales> and I made an additional partition on my hard drive
[12:24] <TNTales> of some remaining free space
[12:25] <kbrooks> for what
[12:25] <TNTales> to stuff media files in to share between windows and linux
[12:25] <kbrooks> ... and
[12:25] <kbrooks> ?
[12:25] <TNTales> there's instructions on how to mount partitions made in windows
[12:25] <TNTales> for linux
[12:25] <TNTales> but not vice versa
[12:26] <kbrooks> yes
[12:26] <bungle> I have 30gig spare space to save pcs and movies n stuff in for when I format
[12:26] <TNTales> so i had to make one using the terrible windows disk manager
[12:26] <kbrooks> you can mount linux in windows
[12:26] <TNTales> well, i used disk manager
[12:26] <TNTales> and made my partition, loaded some files on it, etc
[12:26] <kbrooks> TNTales: XP?
[12:26] <kbrooks> or xp cd?
[12:26] <TNTales> kbrooks yes, XP SP2
[12:26] <kbrooks> kk.
[12:26] <LathropWells> Parttion Recovery "TestDisk"      take a peek see what you think - www.cgsecurity.org/testdisk.html
[12:26] <TNTales> under system tools
[12:26] <TNTales> i think
[12:26] <TNTales> right click on my computer and click manage
[12:27] <kbrooks> TNTales: yes
[12:27] <TNTales> yeah, made partition, made it FAT32, quick formatted
[12:27] <TNTales> put some files on it
[12:27] <kbrooks> and then?
[12:27] <TNTales> and restarted computer
[12:27] <TNTales> and POOF
[12:27] <TNTales> Error 17
[12:28] <kbrooks> TNTales: OK
[12:28] <kbrooks> TNTales: so it just happened
[12:28] <TNTales> i suspected my new partition
[12:28] <TNTales> yes, just happened
[12:28] <kbrooks> ok
[12:28] <kbrooks> TNTales: partitioning step yet?
[12:28] <TNTales> so i thought i was fried, so i put in the XP OS Recovery Disk
[12:28] <TNTales> go ahead and do the username, etc? or skip out of that?
[12:29] <kbrooks> ?
[12:29] <TNTales> it's asking me to put in a host name?
[12:29] <TNTales> is this where i skip ahead to the partition thingy?
[12:29] <kbrooks> skip out
[12:29] <TNTales> ok, and go to???
[12:30] <TNTales> partition disks?
[12:30] <kbrooks> partition disks
[12:30] <TNTales> ok
[12:30] <TNTales> detecting hardware...
[12:30] <TNTales> starting partitioner...
[12:30] <kbrooks> if its still blank, i'm not sure what to do
[12:30] <kbrooks> (ie no partitions)
[12:30] <TNTales> ok, gives me options of: Erase Entire Disk, Erease and use LVM
[12:30] <TNTales> or manually edit table
[12:30] <TNTales> manual yes?
[12:30] <kbrooks> TNTales: huh? no list?
[12:31] <TNTales> ok, here's what it says:
[12:31] <TNTales> Configure software RAID
[12:31] <TNTales> Configure Logical Volume Manager
[12:31] <TNTales> Guided Partitioning
[12:31] <TNTales> Help on partitioning
[12:31] <TNTales> then the IDE thingy we saw before
[12:31] <TNTales> no partition table listed
[12:32] <kbrooks> ...
[12:32] <TNTales> then undo changes, finsih partitioning
[12:32] <wickedpuppy> hmms ... this will be the second longest help session ...
[12:32] <kbrooks> *shocked*
[12:32] <TNTales> i probably messed it up
[12:32] <TNTales> and I coudl start over, it'd just be a pain in the butt
[12:32] <kbrooks> TNTales: grub can detect it!!!
[12:32] <TNTales> grub sees the drive, but not the partition table
[12:32] <TNTales> it sees the master
[12:32] <TNTales> none of the partitions though
[12:33] <BockBilbo> bye!
[12:33] <TNTales> *thinking bad thoughts about linux*
[12:33] <kbrooks> TNTales: so how could it have put out error 17
[12:33] <TNTales> i dunno
[12:33] <kbrooks> the partitions are unmountable
[12:33] <TNTales> right
[12:33] <kbrooks> undetectable
[12:33] <kbrooks> etc
[12:33] <TNTales> but, the windows install disk shows them as there
[12:33] <TNTales> so they are on the disk w/the info on them
[12:33] <kbrooks> yet windows detects them
[12:33] <TNTales> yes, i just can't boot to windows
[12:33] <TNTales> because grub fails
[12:33] <kbrooks> yes
[12:34] <kbrooks> TNTales: so we neeed to think
[12:34] <TNTales> so a bad boot record?
[12:34] <kbrooks> of something
[12:34] <kbrooks> brb
[12:34] <TNTales> well, the least pleasing but simplest option is: Wipe and Restart
[12:34] <TNTales> hoepfully we can avoid that
[12:34] <kbrooks> breakfast
[12:34] <TNTales> I had mine at the computer, lol
[12:34] <TNTales> buscuits and mountain dew
[12:34] <TNTales> heh
[12:34] <TNTales> biscuits
[12:35] <TNTales> ok, I tell you what, you think while you eat, I'm going to go to bed
[12:35] <LathropWells> Parttion Recovery "TestDisk"      take a peek see what you think - www.cgsecurity.org/testdisk.html
[12:35] <TNTales> if you think of something
[12:35] <TNTales> post it in the absolute beginner forum
[12:35] <TNTales> and I'll check it out
[12:35] <TNTales> may just need to boot the live cd
[12:35] <TNTales> will the live cd boot?
[12:36] <TNTales> w/out grub?
[12:36] <Habbie> the live cd needs -nothing-, that's the idea :)
[12:36] <Tzi> Hi =) Anyone had experience with Quake 2 under Linux?  I'm attempting to get multiplayer working over a 256/64 ADSL connection.. Unfortunately, as soon as I move, I get a 'disconnected' icon, and suddenly can't move any more, although I can see others moving, and read incoming messages (outgoing messages take a good 10, 20 secs to send)
[12:36] <Tzi> I guess the uplink is being saturated with traffic, but I'm not sure how to stop it happening =)
[12:37] <TNTales> this really pisses me off
[12:37] <hukkka> anyone here happen to have experience on bluetooth gprs connections?
[12:37] <ompaul> TNTales, language please
[12:37] <hukkka> or gprsec
[12:38] <kbrooks> TNTales: well, poke
[12:38] <kbrooks> TNTales: livecd. dl it.
[12:38] <LathropWells> Tzi - Hello, sorry to hear that you are having problems. - i wasn't able to install it all. how did you install Quake 2?
[12:38] <kbrooks> TNTales: and then boot it
[12:39] <TNTales> *sigh* ok
[12:39] <Tzi> LathropWells: I just downloaded the binary from a mirror, and untarred it over the installation =)
[12:39] <TNTales> if that doesn't work, I think my linux adventures may come to a close
[12:39] <TNTales> it's feeling less and less worth it
[12:39] <LathropWells> Tzi - Ok, Thanks i will give that a try.
[12:40] <kbrooks> TNTales: u have to work for what you get
[12:40] <kbrooks> TNTales: switching back to windows just because of partitioning troubles is not going to work
[12:41] <jpfarias> hi!
[12:41] <jpfarias> is there a development version after breezy?
[12:41] <aftertaf> not yey
[12:41] <aftertaf> yet
[12:41] <kbrooks> TNTales: in the livecd, you will want to ... emm, i havent really used it, but i think i can blame windows
[12:41] <aftertaf> !dapper
[12:41] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release.
[12:42] <LathropWells> TNTales - If a computer phobic like me can install and use Linux so can you.
[12:42] <kbrooks> LathropWells: HE HAS
[12:42] <TNTales> LathropWells Oh, I installed it
[12:42] <kbrooks> LathropWells: 1 week
[12:42] <TNTales> I had a configured, completely installed, drive shared
[12:42] <aftertaf> TNTales: you lost your grub?
[12:42] <bimberi> dapper repositories are open, but they'd be for the brave
[12:42] <TNTales> wireless on the verge
[12:42] <TNTales> and poof
[12:42] <kbrooks> !grub
[12:42] <TNTales> error 17, grub just won't work
[12:42] <ubotu> hmm... grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:42] <kbrooks> aftertaf: no
[12:42] <mustard5> afteraf lost his grub and only has install CD
[12:43] <kbrooks> aftertaf: both of us, me and TNTales concluded (for now) that ...
[12:43] <Liket> where can I get the linux kernel source tree for ubuntu 5.10? i need it to compile a driver, is there a package to install?
[12:43] <kbrooks> mustard5: he didnt lose it
[12:43] <aftertaf> Liket: lunux-source package
[12:43] <Liket> sweet, thanks
[12:43] <aftertaf> Liket: spot the spelling mistake ;)
[12:43] <LathropWells> lol
[12:44] <mustard5> kbrooks, your calling the shots..I've been told to stay quiet :)
[12:44] <kbrooks> mustard5: he created a new partition, rebooted, *bang*
[12:44] <Liket> hehe np
[12:44] <kbrooks> error 17
[12:44] <TNTales> yup, POOF
[12:44] <TNTales> thought i must have erased the HDD
[12:44] <TNTales> but when i put in the windows OS recovery cd
[12:44] <Liket> is there a text based package manager (like synaptic) that'll work over SSH?
[12:44] <TNTales> it picked up the partitions as still being there
[12:45] <bimberi> Liket: you might only need the headers - sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:45] <LathropWells> gee kbrooks i usually have to pull the plug on reiserfs to get my parttions to go *BANG*
[12:45] <kbrooks> TNTales: i have a idea
[12:45] <kbrooks> TNTales: get the recovery cd
[12:45] <bimberi> Liket: aptitude :)
[12:45] <kbrooks> remove the shared partition
[12:45] <TNTales> ok, js
[12:46] <kbrooks> k
[12:46] <Liket> wow, that $(command) will come in very handy, you learn something new every day :) tnx
[12:46] <bimberi> Liket: np :)
[12:47] <aftertaf> Liket: whats that?
[12:47] <aftertaf> $mv
[12:47] <aftertaf> ??
[12:47] <TNTales> booting...
[12:47] <kbrooks> aftertaf: no
[12:47] <Liket> aftertaf: well, it appeared to grab the console output of whatever was put within the paranthesis and append it to the commandline
[12:48] <aftertaf> ok ;) gotcha....
[12:48] <Liket> aftertaf: i remember needing to do that once way back when, and having no idea how :)
[12:48] <kbrooks> TNTales: post this all the forums too -- that you have a booting problem
[12:48] <TNTales> loading files...
[12:48] <TNTales> ok, lets try this first, if it works, we can post it as a solution
[12:48] <TNTales> :)
[12:48] <bimberi> Liket:  probably with back-quotes (which also work)
[12:48] <aftertaf> TNTales: :)
[12:49] <TNTales> I was getting ready to try out Half Life 2 in WINE :)
[12:49] <kbrooks> TNTales: hopefully it should work
[12:49] <TNTales> I have to get up for work in 6 hours, heh
[12:49] <phinnaeus> dang bf2 doesnt work
[12:49] <phinnaeus> speaking of wine
[12:49] <kbrooks> TNTales: you can readd the partition in the future
[12:49] <LathropWells> TNTales it works very well in cedega.
[12:49] <phinnaeus> cedega costs money
[12:50] <kbrooks> phinnaeus: uh no
[12:50] <phinnaeus> it doens't?
[12:50] <kbrooks> phinnaeus: there is a free cedegaa too
[12:50] <phinnaeus> i thought it did
[12:50] <phinnaeus> ohhhhhh
[12:50] <TNTales> ok, i'm in the recovery part
[12:50] <kbrooks> u have to pay for the binaries
[12:50] <TNTales> shoudl i try the "fix boot command?
[12:50] <TNTales> writes a new boot sector to drive C
[12:51] <phinnaeus> kbrooks: should i just google free cedega?
[12:51] <phinnaeus> lol
[12:51] <kbrooks> TNTales: uh ok. not sure if that'll work. it'll overwrite grub
[12:51] <TNTales> ok, i put no then
[12:51] <LathropWells> wine can be gotten from CVS - transgaming protects non disclosure agreements on disk copy protection on some games. that small amount of code isn't released.
[12:51] <TNTales> Wine is supposed to be pretty good though.. dunno haven't got to try it yet :/
[12:51] <kbrooks> TNTales: remove the shared partition that windows detected
[12:52] <TNTales> ok, had to reboot from the console
[12:52] <kbrooks> LathropWells: cedega != wine
[12:52] <TNTales> isn't cedega more of an emulator though?
[12:52] <kbrooks> wine <- (winex -> cedega)
[12:52] <TNTales> like more windows dependant than wine?
[12:52] <kbrooks> TNTales: no
[12:52] <TNTales> ah, ok
[12:52] <TNTales> i tried to get winex to work, ended up just being easier to do terminal stuff
[12:53] <LathropWells> TNTales - it works.  to me Cedega is handy and quicker to get your game working.
[12:53] <kbrooks> cedega is a fork of wine. cedega was known as winex
[12:53] <phinnaeus> kbrooks: where is this free cedega you speak of
[12:54] <TNTales> ok, deleted partition
[12:54] <TNTales> restart?
[12:54] <dylan_rogers> is there anywhere in linux that i can adjust security settings?
[12:54] <TNTales> or create a partition again?
[12:54] <LathropWells> kbrooks - yes but still not all wine code is cedega
[12:54] <NoobieDoobieDo> dylan_rogers, what kind of security settings ?
[12:54] <dylan_rogers> NoobieDoobieDo, like Group Policy under Windows
[12:54] <dylan_rogers> NoobieDoobieDo, or something
[12:55] <Liket> holy crap it worked!! :)
[12:55] <thefish> o/
[12:55] <TNTales> kbrooks well, i don't see grub
[12:55] <kbrooks> phinnaeus: google winecvs
[12:55] <TNTales> but windows will now boot
[12:55] <TNTales> it skips over grub
[12:55] <TNTales> all together
[12:55] <kbrooks> TNTales: okay
[12:55] <NoobieDoobieDo> dylan_rogers, System -> Administration -> Users and Groups ?
[12:55] <LathropWells> <<< - still misses Loki Games - R.I.P. bankrupted.
[12:55] <TNTales> ah, it's doing the installation though
[12:55] <kbrooks> TNTales: of what?
[12:56] <Liket> i now have a new compiled driver (.ko) for my hard disk controller.. it's my boot drive though. should i just replace the old file with the new file and reboot? or do i need to add it to a ram disk image or similar?
[12:56] <TNTales> rebooting
[12:56] <dylan_rogers> NoobieDoobieDo, thats it?
[12:56] <TNTales> *crosses fingers*
[12:56] <NoobieDoobieDo> looks like it
[12:56] <dylan_rogers> NoobieDoobieDo, is linux really secure by default as some say?
[12:56] <kbrooks> dylan_rogers: yes
[12:56] <TNTales> now i'm stuck in the install loop!
[12:56] <TNTales> crap
[12:56] <TNTales> it wants to set up windows :/
[12:57] <TNTales> putting in the ubuntu cd
[12:57] <TNTales> hehe
[12:57] <TNTales> tryu that
[12:57] <dylan_rogers> kbrooks, sweetness....so im never really gonna get hit with a virus/spyware app like under Windows, etc?  Microsoft says that Vista will be secure.....will they accomplish security?
[12:57] <NoobieDoobieDo> dylan_rogers, yes.
[12:57] <ompaul> dylan_rogers, why would they say it was if it was not, Linux does not have a marketing system
[12:57] <ompaul> dylan_rogers, they said that about 95
[12:57] <NoobieDoobieDo> dylan_rogers, there are many resources on the net that can tell you why.  part of the problem is windows is _insecure_ by nature.
[12:57] <kbrooks> TNTales: heh. well, I don't really KNOW why the IDE is blank
[12:57] <ompaul> 2000 and xp
[12:57] <dylan_rogers> ompaul, they did?
[12:58] <kbrooks> dylan_rogers: yes they did
[12:58] <dylan_rogers> NoobieDoobieDo, i thought it was because it was so popular.  if linux was to be as popular as windows, would we see any viruses
[12:58] <LathropWells> dylan - yes. - at least some of the reason s linux is less than ten percent of machines on the desktop. - only the most energetic anti social hackers have time for us after writing code exploits for windows
[12:58] <kbrooks> dylan_rogers: no viruses
[12:58] <kbrooks> erm
[12:58] <kbrooks> very few
[12:58] <TNTales> kbrooks aren't all great discoveries made on the virtue of a lack of knowledge, heh
[12:58] <ompaul> dylan_rogers, go look at the marketing for those days
[12:58] <NoobieDoobieDo> dylan_rogers, their core structure is different. linux by design is more secure and stable than windows can ever be give the way it is designed.
[12:58] <kbrooks> trojans technically exist as rootkits
[12:58] <NoobieDoobieDo> i hope this makes sense.
[12:59] <hukkka> does anyone know which port does bluetooth use in ubuntu?
[12:59] <dylan_rogers> kbrooks, but they dont do anything without the user explicity allowing privelages, right?
[12:59] <TNTales> nope, doesn't appear
[12:59] <kbrooks> dylan_rogers: uh, right.
[12:59] <LathropWells> still a few exploits out there - read the internet weather report for yeserday?
[12:59] <kbrooks> TNTales: hmm. sooo strange
[12:59] <dylan_rogers> kbrooks, is that sarcasm, or a yes?
[12:59] <kbrooks> dylan_rogers: s/uh, //
[12:59] <kbrooks> dylan_rogers: its a yes
[01:00] <TNTales> and it goes back to the freakin windows set up!
[01:00] <LathropWells> Lupper worm had a party on some wiki equiped servers
[01:00] <TNTales> i think I'm gonna test the aerodynamics of my newly minted paperweigh :/
[01:00] <NoobieDoobieDo> dylan_rogers, http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/security_report_windows_vs_linux/
[01:00] <kbrooks> TNTales: you should really reinstall
[01:00] <kbrooks> from stratch
[01:00] <TNTales> yeah, looks that way
[01:00] <TNTales> screw it
[01:01] <kbrooks> TNTales: i have no idea how this happens
[01:01] <kbrooks> screwc what
[01:01] <TNTales> I'm just so upset right now, I shoudl go to bed
[01:01] <TNTales> or I'll get so mad I"ll give up on linux and destroy my laptop
[01:01] <kbrooks> TNTales: well, blame windows
[01:01] <TNTales> haha
[01:01] <TNTales> I'll try
[01:01] <TNTales> thanks for your help
[01:01] <kbrooks> you created that partition in windows
[01:01] <TNTales> I'll just reinstalled
[01:02] <kbrooks> TNTales: forum post
[01:02] <TNTales> reinstall it all
[01:02] <kbrooks> ?
[01:02] <TNTales> windows first right?
[01:02] <kbrooks> yes
[01:02] <mustard5> TNTales, get some sleep ;)
[01:02] <TNTales> oh, yeah, call it: Don't Use Windows Disk Manager for Partition Making
[01:02] <TNTales> :/
[01:02] <TNTales> yeah, see you guys tonight
[01:02] <TNTales> I'll try the live cd trick
[01:02] <mustard5> TNTales, it will all be clearer in the morning :)
[01:02] <kbrooks> TNTales: post ur experience
[01:02] <TNTales> haha, it is morning :)
[01:03] <TNTales> ok, I'll post it before I go to work
[01:03] <kbrooks> on the forums
[01:03] <kbrooks> :)
[01:03] <TNTales> it's 7:00 am here
[01:03] <mustard5> :)
[01:03] <kbrooks> same here
[01:03] <TNTales> I'll post it today
[01:03] <TNTales> ty for your help, I"m off
[01:03] <LathropWells> Relax - TNTales good night -  it'll be a lot easier after a bit of rest.
[01:03] <kbrooks> TNTales: cmpfixer@hotmail.com
[01:03] <kbrooks> :)
[01:03] <kbrooks> well, that sucks :)
[01:04] <dylan_rogers> does popularity diminish the security of an OS?
[01:04] <kbrooks> i had to tell him to remove that spare partition
[01:04] <LathropWells> only one sure thing when he does get installed he is going to make backups religously. - grin
[01:04] <kbrooks> dylan_rogers: microsoft has sucky advertising
[01:04] <mustard5> I'll keep an eye out for him and pass the email on kbrooks
[01:05] <LathropWells> dylan - erm - yes is my guess. still very few linux machines out there.
[01:05] <J_Element> hey
[01:05] <J_Element> can any one assist me on configurting samba with my ubuntu 5.04
[01:05] <LathropWells> Windows gets the lions share of attention.
[01:05] <LathropWells> !samba
[01:05] <ubotu> from memory, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[01:05] <kbrooks> yay
[01:06] <LathropWells> Whew! - thanks ubotu.
[01:06] <Liket> how do i make an init ramdisk (kernel image?). never done this before, but i need to install a new hard disk controller driver
[01:06] <kbrooks> gaim-vv is being merged back into gaim
[01:06] <kbrooks> for 2.0
[01:06] <LathropWells> you never know what he might know
[01:06] <kbrooks> http://gaim.sourceforge.net/
[01:07] <LathropWells> Liket - I would try the linux documentation project for the answer.   tldp.or
[01:07] <Liket> LathropWells: tnx, will do
[01:08] <LathropWells> Liket  tldp.org
[01:09] <Liket> that's a huge site, LathropWells, can you point me in the right direction?
[01:10] <LathropWells> Liket -erm - best guess even GPS guidance fails there. GNU positioning system lol
[01:11] <LathropWells> NoUse, - i get lost there all the time too.
[01:11] <Liket> LathropWells: haha exactly :)
[01:13] <Liket> LathropWells: the thing is, i have installation instructions for this driver (from 3ware) for red hat and suse. neither of them match debian, of course. for redhat it references /etc/modprobe.conf which of course doesn't exist
[01:13] <Liket> LathropWells: and for suse it references /etc/sysconfig/kernel
[01:13] <Liket> which doesn't exist in ubuntu either.
[01:13] <Liket> any idea what they're talking about?
[01:14] <LathropWells> Liket - i have only been doing this for a couple of months
[01:14] <Liket> ahh.. you definitely feel my pain then :)
[01:14] <LathropWells> Absolutely - (faxes an aspirin and a papsi)
[01:14] <Liket> i installed ubuntu yesterday. i'm reinstalling tomorrow (reinitializing raid with more drives) so i figured today is an excellent day to make mistakes
[01:15] <LathropWells> a little planning is sure to help.
[01:16] <LathropWells> Liket - "insomod" - ???
[01:16] <LathropWells> insmod  ?
[01:17] <LathropWells> !insmod
[01:17] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, LathropWells
[01:17] <Liket> that does exist! hmm
[01:17] <LathropWells> !insomod
[01:17] <ubotu> LathropWells: Are you on ritalin?
[01:17] <Liket> hehe, bot's got at attitude :)
[01:17] <bimberi> Liket: probably /etc/modules
[01:18] <kbrooks> !insmod
[01:18] <LathropWells> botsnack - arsenic
[01:18] <ubotu> kbrooks: What?
[01:18] <LathropWells> !botsnack
[01:18] <ubotu> thanks lathropwells :)
[01:18] <bimberi> Liket: insmod is the command to insert modules into the kernel but the preferred way is to use modprobe (which will insert dependant modules as well)
[01:19] <Liket> bimberi: ahh, i gotcha. i'm trying to upgrade the raid controller driver that is used for my boot drive.. it can't be as easy as putting modprobe in rc.local right? don't i have to update the ram disk image or similar?
[01:19] <LathropWells> Ah okay. - i always learn something here.
[01:20] <whyameye> sometimes my applications just quit. No warning. No crash dialog. Suddenly just gone. happens a lot with Thunderbird and Firefox. So frustrating. I was just typing an email in Thunderbird and bang. The application has completely disappeared. Hoary.
[01:20] <Liket> whyameye: tried opera?
[01:20] <whyameye> Liket: so the problem is the app? Never had this problem with Thunderbird in WinXP...
[01:20] <bimberi> Liket: sorry i don't know about the "ram disk image", but if you want modules loaded at boot time you can add them to /etc/modules.
[01:21] <Liket> bimberi: the thing is, i know the module is getting loaded already somehow (or the system couldn't boot).. but i'm not sure where
[01:21] <bimberi> Liket: and there's no rc.local in ubuntu either :) - /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh is probably the most equivalent
[01:21] <bimberi> Liket: ah
[01:21] <Liket> oooh THAT is a very useful tidbit of information, bimberi :)
[01:22] <LathropWells> bimberi would there be a log of when the moule was loaded maybe that could narrow it down
[01:23] <bimberi> LathropWells: ooh yes - perhaps grep-ping in /var/log Liket?
[01:23] <bimberi> *grep-ing :)
[01:23] <LathropWells> np - i stile canned spel eyther
[01:24] <bimberi> *g*
[01:24] <Liket> i do see the console output from the driver in kern.log
[01:25] <Liket> no reference to WHAT loads it in that file. hmm... ...man kern
[01:25] <Liket> i mean, man grep :)
[01:25] <kestas> if theres a competition where at a certain time of the day a link is posted on a website, and the first 200 people to click that link get the prize
[01:25] <kestas> is it illegal for you to set up a script to download the site repeatedly, automatically check for differences, and let you know when differences are detected?
[01:25] <kestas>  there's nothing against it in the TOS, but I dont want to be gipped out of the prize
[01:26] <Habbie> kestas: that -would- entail giving yourself an unfair advantage.. but I don't know about the legal side :)
[01:26] <bimberi> wow, that's ubuntu related :P
[01:26] <kestas> well the script is running on ubuntu
[01:26] <LathropWells> kestas - interesting. - i wonder if they are hip to only allowing new unique ip addresses see the prize page.
[01:27] <bimberi> kestas: pretty thin :)
[01:27] <Liket> :)
[01:27] <kestas> LathropWells, well I only want 1, but they could see the repeated page hits from my ip for the last 24 hours and get suspicious
[01:28] <kestas> bimberi, I know :P but there's no #legalitiesofcompetitions
[01:28] <J_Element> any one can help me with samba configurations
[01:28] <J_Element> to be able to share file for windows network ?
[01:29] <kestas> J_Element, just take a look at the sample config, it gives all the examples youll need in a basic setup
[01:29] <kestas> at least it does on freebsd
[01:29] <J_Element> i need it on ubuntu
[01:29] <kestas> Im sure the config will be on ubuntu too
[01:29] <J_Element> where is this sample config ?
[01:30] <kestas> cant remember, but 'locate -u && locate smb samba | less' should find it
[01:30] <bimberi> Liket: sudo grep -r <modulename> /etc/*     <- might show some clues
[01:31] <J_Element> kastas
[01:31] <J_Element> do u mind me asking u a question in ur dialog chat window ?
[01:32] <kestas> just ask in here please
[01:32] <J_Element> sure
[01:32] <J_Element> umm i got some help earlier on installing drivers for my sound card
[01:32] <Liket> bimberi: now that's an excellent idea - running
[01:32] <J_Element> do u know how can i know if its config correctly
[01:32] <kestas> aplay /dev/urandom
[01:32] <LathropWells> J_Element, Only tangentially related. but still nifty for ssh file sharing.  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4296
[01:33] <kestas> make sure all sound is turned up first, all plugged in
[01:33] <J_Element> cuz when i see the sound volume control on my task bar
[01:33] <kestas> LathropWells, is that sshfs
[01:33] <LathropWells> uhuh
[01:33] <kestas> LathropWells, cant beat sshfs :) much better than smb and nfs
[01:33] <J_Element> when i open xmms with a file it says : "make sure that no other prog is blocking ur sound card , or that u got ur sound card config prop "
[01:33] <kestas> also see encfs
[01:33] <kestas> also very neat
[01:33] <Liket> bimberi: not found!
[01:33] <kestas> J_Element, try aplay /dev/urandom
[01:34] <bimberi> Liket: :/
[01:34] <LathropWells> kestas - lol - thats the 3rd time in an hour you sent me to google to larn something new. - lol
[01:34] <J_Element> it didnt do any thing
[01:34] <kestas> ;)
[01:34] <kestas> J_Element, hmm
[01:35] <kestas> J_Element, what did it say?
[01:35] <J_Element> nothing ! it just gave blank
[01:35] <J_Element> it didnt even give me the command line
[01:35] <kestas> open up a terminal first
[01:35] <J_Element> i did :S
[01:36] <J_Element> and pasted ur code in it
[01:36] <kestas> so it's jelement@jspc:~ $ aplay /dev/urandom
[01:36] <kestas> you press enter
[01:36] <J_Element> yeah
[01:36] <kestas> and you just see jelement@jspc:~ $
[01:36] <J_Element> nop
[01:36] <LathropWells> http://arg0.net/wiki/encfs/intro2 - seems authoritative
[01:36] <J_Element> it didnt give that
[01:36] <Liket> bimberi: i wonder if it's compiled into the kernel
[01:36] <J_Element> it just put the cursor to a new line and thats it
[01:37] <kestas> J_Element, okay, and youre sure the volume is turned up?
[01:37] <J_Element> yepp
[01:37] <kestas> type alsamixer
[01:37] <kestas> double check that everything is turned up and not muted
[01:38] <J_Element> did that
[01:38] <bimberi> Liket: yes, i guess so, although i really don't know much about it
[01:38] <J_Element> but when i ran xmms player
[01:38] <J_Element> its not working :S
[01:39] <kestas> J_Element, and you dont hear any drums when using the interface?
[01:39] <J_Element> which interface ?
[01:39] <kestas> gnome
[01:39] <J_Element> nop
[01:39] <Liket> bimberi: alright.. i guess i'll live with it for now.. it does work, but i'm worried the raid manager daemon won't be able to run with the old driver that's included in ubuntu
[01:39] <J_Element> i didnt hear any sound ever since i installed ubuntu
[01:39] <kestas> k, are you using a generic sound card or a rare one?
[01:39] <Liket> bimberi: thanks for your help!
[01:40] <J_Element> realtek builtin with my intel 915gav
[01:40] <bimberi> Liket: np :) wish i could have helped more
[01:40] <J_Element> listen why dont i reboot
[01:40] <J_Element> brb
[01:41] <kestas> where do you get libcss from again?
[01:42] <kestas> !tell kestas about libcss2
[01:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kestas about libdvdcss2
[01:44] <J_Element> back
[01:44] <LathropWells> wb
[01:44] <J_Element> the sound is working but i cant work any mp3 to play
[01:44] <J_Element> it closes the totem player and says resource is busy
[01:45] <J_Element> or not available
[01:45] <kestas> J_Element, enable the universe repository in /etc/apt/sources.list, and install totem-xine
[01:45] <kestas> while youre at it install beep-media-player
[01:45] <kestas> its a gnome-centric xmms
[01:46] <J_Element> beep ?
[01:46] <kestas> yup
[01:46] <J_Element> but why isnt xmms working
[01:47] <J_Element> my friend recomended it highly
[01:47] <kestas> youre probably using the wrong output pluging
[01:47] <kestas> plugin
[01:47] <kestas> use esd
[01:47] <kestas> but really I recommend beep-media-player over xmms, and I think everyone here would agree
[01:47] <J_Element> sure
[01:47] <J_Element> but sound is working ! i heard the bootin & every thing
[01:48] <J_Element> now im installing the xine thingie
[01:48] <LathropWells> J_Element, - it's worth a try. - i used to confuse xmms all the time by adding conflicting codecs.
[01:49] <J_Element> why the heck not
[01:49] <J_Element> im sure u guys have better experience in this than i do
[01:49] <J_Element> u guys are gods to ME :D it works
[01:49] <LathropWells> Send the checks to... - lol
[01:50] <J_Element> ;)
[01:50] <J_Element> i gotta go to a meeting now with my dean , i finish work in 5 mins
[01:50] <J_Element> so take care fellas
[01:50] <J_Element> im mighty gratefull
[01:50] <LathropWells> "Pay it Forward" to the next person. Linux Community
[01:50] <J_Element> sure will
[01:53] <sybil52> hi how do I install kde?
[01:53] <hochim> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <nalioth> you guys need to register and identify yourselves
[01:54] <sybil52> hocghim is that for kde?
[01:55] <dylan_rogers> if i am using the ext3 filesystem, will i ever need to defrag?
[01:55] <voth> is there a way to mget an entire folder including it's sub-folders through ftp?
[01:55] <Habbie> voth: I recommend the mirror-command in lftp for that
[01:55] <Habbie> voth: or wget -m :)
[01:56] <hochim> sybil52: yes, it loads lots of kde stuff
[01:57] <sybil52> I just tried it in terminal and it said
[01:57] <sybil52> sybil52@sympatico:~$ apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <sybil52> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[01:58] <Habbie> sybil52: put 'sudo' in front
[01:58] <sybil52> ah! ok
[01:58] <sybil52> thanks
[01:58] <hedonick> dylan_rogers: very unlikely... I used a separate /var partion for a couple of years withough the fragmentation rising over 10% (and with a lot of updating of debs, then purging etc... trashed that partition good I think)
[01:58] <frogzoo> sybil52: you need root permission - sudo will suid your process, and run as root
[01:58] <dylan_rogers> hedonick, so no?
[01:59] <hedonick> dylan_rogers: could be extreme cases... but generally I think no
[01:59] <sybil52> ok thanks guys
[01:59] <dylan_rogers> hedonick, great
[02:00] <karjala> How can I change the keybord language that I type in? (I've installed greek and english)
[02:00] <frogzoo> hedonick: btw: ext2 defrags itself - it's built into the driver, so defrag is really a non issue
[02:00] <_Dez> im using ext1
[02:00] <_Dez> do i need to defrag
[02:01] <Habbie> _Dez: ext1?!
[02:01] <frogzoo> _Dez: chuckle :p noone uses ext1
[02:01] <_Dez> joking
[02:01] <Habbie> hehe
[02:01] <karjala> How can I get a systray icon to see (and select) the language that I type in?
[02:01] <LathropWells> karjala, - on the top or bottom taskbar right click and add to panel keyboard manager
[02:02] <frogzoo> newsflash _Dez is still running 1.02 :p
[02:02] <karjala> LathropWells: Thanks!
[02:03] <LathropWells> poningru, Hi
[02:05] <_Dez> hehe
[02:05] <_Dez> IN runs so well on my 4Mhz Proc
[02:05] <_Dez> it*
[02:06] <sybil52> it is now d/l . thanks a lot
[02:07] <_Dez> I need a PRog to show how much Power my Batterys laptop holds
[02:09] <kestas> your battery's laptop?
[02:09] <aftertaf> loooool
[02:09] <fanopnaic> _Dez: "acpi"
[02:09] <aftertaf> 4mhz proc ;)
[02:10] <aftertaf> _Dez: you running kernel version 0.1 too ?
[02:10] <_Dez> yeah kestas
[02:10] <_Dez> hehe
[02:10] <_Dez> FlashDrives aftertaf
[02:10] <_Dez> well off to school i go lator
[02:10] <kestas> 386 has always been > 4mhz
[02:10] <elzapp> Dez: there is plugins for both kde kicker and gnomepanel that shows battery status
[02:10] <kestas> and linux doesnt run on anything slower
[02:11] <frogzoo> _Dez: there's a battery monitor as one of the standard applets - just right click menu bar
[02:11] <kestas> unless you use bochs and simulate it at 4mhz, while telling it it's going at, say 100mhz
[02:13] <darklightred83> help
[02:13] <darklightred83> any1?
[02:13] <darklightred83> who knows about fork()
[02:13] <poningru> someone called?
[02:13] <darklightred83> ununtu ryt?
[02:13] <darklightred83> any1 please
[02:13] <frogzoo> darklightred83: sounds like a school assignment?
[02:13] <poningru> bill you called?
[02:13] <poningru> err
[02:14] <darklightred83> yez it is
[02:14] <poningru> LathropWells:
[02:14] <LathropWells> Hi
[02:14] <frogzoo> darklightred83: maybe try #c ?
[02:14] <darklightred83> #c?
[02:14] <darklightred83> whats that?
[02:14] <darklightred83> threads
[02:14] <poningru> C#
[02:14] <elzapp> As in the channel #c
[02:14] <poningru> oh
[02:14] <frogzoo> darklightred83: type "/join #c"
[02:14] <darklightred83> join #c
[02:14] <Ophiocus> hehe, this ones gonna take long
[02:15] <frogzoo> lol
[02:15] <tastyratz> hey, I tried installing Kubuntu on my system last night and had an issue. I was able to select language, keyboard, and then the primary network controller. It got to a screen with a loading bar saying "this may take awhile" did a few things and then the screen changed to just the background blue color with a light gray bar on the bottom I could type in. cd spun down and nothing happens after that
[02:15] <frogzoo> darklightred83: you missed the "/" like so "/join #c"
[02:15] <aftertaf> did it try connecting for updates?
[02:15] <nayif> i have problem on my website it appear diff on both IE and firefox where can i find help for this problem ?
[02:16] <aftertaf> css maybe?
[02:16] <frogzoo> nayif: I believe the only one who can help you is a guy in Redmond, Bill somebody or other
[02:17] <tastyratz> it didnt say anything on the screen about connecting
[02:17] <nayif> frogzoo, i hope this guy and team on IE help us to get the webdev an simple like text file
[02:17] <agtnz> Hmmm whats a good monospace font.. :/
[02:17] <poningru> tastyratz: you sure that the cd is good?
[02:17] <poningru> as in did you burn it?
[02:17] <tastyratz> yea
[02:18] <tastyratz> i just burned it 10 min before trying
[02:18] <tastyratz> 5.1
[02:18] <poningru> if so did you make sure that it was burnt correctly?
[02:18] <nuck> what's going on? whenever i log in im redirected to ubuntu-regged
[02:18] <LathropWells> md5sum /path/your.iso    ?
[02:18] <poningru> yeah
[02:18] <nalioth> nuck: check your identification setup in your client
[02:18] <poningru> but if you dont have access to your computer it may not be possible
[02:19] <dylan_> is the linux team working on a way to reduce processor and memory usage, or are they going the microsoft way and needing extra processor speed, etc.?
[02:19] <poningru> if you burn a cd at higher speeds you should always check your data
[02:19] <poningru> the linux team?
[02:19] <nuck> anyho anyone else using VLC to view videos? i installed vlc but i get no audio.  of course ive checked volume control etc. what else could ive missed? thanks
[02:19] <poningru> dylan_: the beauty of linux is that it can be run in the tiniest machines
[02:20] <LathropWells> dylan_ - a different mindset. - you have a choice of at least a dozen desktops fot debian
[02:20] <dylan_> poningru, i really meant GNOME and Ubuntu, but Linux too, the kernel i guess w/e im new....have an older system and want to be able to upgrade.... 500mhz 128mb ram
[02:20] <nalioth> nuck: you got all your audio codecs installed?
[02:20] <Eclipse> i have some problems with my ubuntu machine
[02:20] <poningru> dylan_: take a look at xubuntu
[02:20] <Eclipse> i instaled the ltsp
[02:20] <Ophiocus> dylan_,  theres linux distros that can run on cell phones
[02:20] <Ophiocus> ;)
[02:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nuck about multimedia
[02:20] <LathropWells> terminal skinny to java sun obese.
[02:20] <Ycros> yeah
[02:20] <dylan_> poningru, where can i download it?
[02:20] <frogzoo> dylan_: the linux kernel is extraordinarily lean - it's the gui that soaks mem/cpu
[02:20] <dirkdiggler> Are all applications installed with brezzy visible in the GNOME 'Start Menu'?
[02:21] <nalioth> dirkdiggler: they are not
[02:21] <nalioth> dirkdiggler: only the gui apps
[02:21] <nuck> thanks
[02:21] <Eclipse> now i try to modify my network ip etc and it takes a lot
[02:21] <poningru> !tell dylan_ about xubuntu
[02:21] <dirkdiggler> nalioth: what is the 'program files' equivalent?
[02:21] <frogzoo> dirkdiggler: nope, guess again
[02:21] <LathropWells> xubuntu-desktop  - ?
[02:22] <poningru> dylan_: you should have gotten a message from ubotu
[02:22] <nuck> ok thanks
[02:22] <frogzoo> dirkdiggler: probably /usr/bin
[02:22] <nalioth> dirkdiggler: you have executable files all over your system. those files are in several 'bin' directories
[02:23] <dylan_> poningru, i just did - thanks
[02:23] <poningru> np
[02:23] <poningru> just follow the instructions on that page
[02:23] <poningru> and you should be good to go
[02:23] <theturtl> anyone know of an easy to use app to manage songs on my ipod
[02:24] <LathropWells> nalioth - timer script for #ubuntu-unregged   ?
[02:24] <nalioth> LathropWells: timer ?
[02:24] <dirkdiggler> nalioth frogzoo: Thanks, one more question - what is the different between ' Applications - Add Applications' and 'System - Administration - Synaptic Package Manager'?
[02:24] <LathropWells> boot after 5mins
[02:24] <dylan_> poningru, but somebody told me that xfce is shitty compared to gnome or kde
[02:24] <tastyratz> just checked md5: checked out fine
[02:24] <nalioth> dirkdiggler: add applications is a subset of synaptic
[02:24] <nalioth> UdontKnow: howdy
[02:24] <trpdx> !tell trpdx about xubuntu
[02:24] <deFrysk> dylan_, not if you have a light spec box
[02:24] <nalioth> UdontKnow: you missed the bot flood
[02:24] <ubuntu> hello
[02:25] <UdontKnow> nalioth: hi
[02:25] <ubuntu> hi nalioth
[02:25] <UdontKnow> nalioth: I was sleeping, heh
[02:25] <tastyratz> anyone have any ideas?
[02:25] <ubuntu> @lalioth: so i wake you up ;-)
[02:26] <poningru> dylan_: well you get what you pay for
[02:26] <poningru> in processing power
[02:26] <macarthy> hi all.
[02:27] <macarthy> How do you access a smb share via the command line?
[02:27] <macarthy> it's arleady mounted
[02:27] <veepster> using 'cd /pathtomounteddirectory'
[02:27] <poningru> I think wherever you mounted it
[02:27] <poningru> yeah
[02:28] <poningru> beauty of *nix everything is a file
[02:28] <macarthy> I used the connect to server menu item, where does it get mounted ?
[02:28] <macarthy> places menu..
[02:28] <kestas> poningru, :) its not mounted on a file
[02:29] <kestas> poningru, it uses an smbclient backend
[02:29] <qiv> hello
[02:29] <qiv> what is the best mathematic-tool for ubuntu? :)
[02:29] <qiv> methematica or maple-like
[02:29] <macarthy> kestas, so how do I access the share via the command line? do I need to mount it again?
[02:29] <qiv> anyone an idea? ;)
[02:30] <marlun> Hello again, I've got 2 harddrives, if I install ubuntu on one of them, if I layter decide to remove ubuntu, is it just to format the harddrive from windows or how do I get it back so I can use it from windows?
[02:30] <kestas> macarthy, you need to install smbmount
[02:30] <flippi> hi, can somebody help me? im trying to install an programm and i get this error: gcc cannot create executables
[02:30] <dylan_> poningru, you get what you pay for?  not entirely true.  you pay 300 bucks for windows xp, but you get shit
[02:30] <Eclipse> how can i run an x aplication as root
[02:30] <kestas> macarthy, or fuse and the smb module for it, but I image smbmount is easier
[02:30] <nalioth> flippi: install "build-essential"
[02:30] <poningru> dylan_: hahahaha so true
[02:30] <flippi> kk thx
[02:30] <Ophiocus> marlun, you simply refotmat the drive
[02:31] <poningru> Eclipse: um why do you want to do that?
[02:31] <macarthy> ok. so there is no mount point using the places menu? ok
[02:31] <akurashy> hello, when i open bzflag it gives me this error, how can i fix this, i installed nvidia-glx/settings and is still like that, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4302
[02:31] <marlun> Ophiocus, ok, thanks! =)
[02:31] <poningru> well its just a simple as creating a root pswd
[02:31] <poningru> and logging in as that
[02:31] <poningru> marlun: you can do that using fdisk in win
[02:31] <Eclipse> it tells me that root cannot log in in graphical mode
[02:31] <marlun> going to install it then, wish me luck :P
[02:31] <poningru> hmm
[02:31] <poningru> good luck
[02:32] <mAIJK> Hi, how can I check if i have installed my Nvidia driver correctly?
[02:32] <poningru> !root
[02:32] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:32] <Micksa> let's see if this is familiar to anyone
[02:32] <Micksa> I have an inspiron 6000 laptop running breezy
[02:32] <Micksa> and whenever I run mplayer on just about anything I constantly get messages like
[02:32] <Micksa> alsa-space: xrun of at least 0.083 msecs. resetting stream0.4% 6 0 90%
[02:32] <Micksa> and the clip is all choppy
[02:33] <Micksa> yes, DMA is on
[02:33] <basvg> hmm, since this morning I keep getting errors on `dselect update`:
[02:33] <basvg> W: GPG error: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[02:33] <basvg> does anyone know 1) why this is and 2) what to do about it?
[02:33] <Amaranth> !gpgerr
[02:33] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[02:34] <basvg> ubotu: thanks :)
[02:34] <ubotu> basvg: de nada
[02:34] <ggeller> I've seen that one before :)
[02:34] <nalioth> Amaranth: you get the news?
[02:34] <Amaranth> nope
[02:35] <goldne> hola
[02:36] <aftertaf> which one nalioth ?
[02:36] <tastyratz> anyone?
[02:36] <agtnz> !tell agtnz about fonts
[02:37] <tastyratz> would I be better unplugging my network cable from my pc and trying to install again?
[02:38] <aftertaf> tastyratz: weird..... does your network have direct net access? try wthout the cable and leave it if it 'hangs' for like 30 mins when checking for updates.
[02:38] <akurashy> is there a better video player than mplayer?
[02:38] <AzMoo> Hey. I'm trying to play a dvd using Mplayer. I use: "mplayer dvd://1 -dvd-device /dev/hdc" and it says it loads successfully, but I don't get a playback window. What am I missing?
[02:38] <tastyratz> i never see anything on the screen saying its checking for updates
[02:38] <tastyratz> just stays blank
[02:38] <aftertaf> akurashy: whats wrong wxith it?
[02:38] <tastyratz> it allows me to type in that gray bar on the bottom however
[02:39] <AzMoo> akurashy, you can use totem.
[02:39] <aftertaf> tastyratz: try without cable....   also, try Alt F1/alt F2 etc
[02:39] <akurashy> aftertaf, it does weird sounds when i play a mpg
[02:39] <AzMoo> akurashy, But personally I use mplayer for pretty much everything.
[02:39] <aftertaf> tastyratz: and md5checksum your CD and iso...
[02:39] <tastyratz> what does alt-f1/alt-f2 do?
[02:39] <tastyratz> i md5'ed it a few minutes ago
[02:39] <akurashy> AzMoo, totem doesn't play mpgs for me
[02:39] <aftertaf> tastyratz: changes consoles
[02:39] <Eclipse> nobody really answered my question.. how can i run an x application as root
[02:40] <aftertaf> tastyratz: what is the last thing it says before gong blank?
[02:40] <Eclipse> i want to modify certain files (that need root access)
[02:40] <raghu> tastyratz: it is ctl-alt F1/F2
[02:40] <aftertaf> Eclipse: what do you want to run, generally not a good idea.
[02:40] <AzMoo> akurashy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:40] <Eclipse> notepad
[02:40] <tastyratz> ill see if i can mimick it under virtual pc
[02:40] <nalioth> Eclipse: alt-f2, 'gksudo "x-applicatoin""
[02:40] <akurashy> AzMoo, kk going to take a look
[02:40] <tastyratz> im in windows xp now
[02:41] <aftertaf> Eclipse: nano in that case... or gedit.... with gksudo
[02:41] <aftertaf> tastyratz: hmm. wont be same hardware though.....
[02:41] <tastyratz> im a complete and total linux n00b, im trying to come out of the binary closet
[02:41] <tastyratz> i wanna make the switch
[02:42] <aftertaf> tastyratz: good call ;)
[02:42] <aftertaf> tastyratz: but your pb is not helping that move ;)
[02:42] <carambol> is there a virusscanner for ubuntu?
[02:42] <aftertaf> tastyratz: give us the final message before it dies on you....
[02:43] <aftertaf> carambol: sort of, but not needed. only if a mail server for win clients
[02:43] <frogzoo> carambol: this is linux - viruses aren't a problem
[02:43] <carambol> but there is signalled a virus for linux
[02:43] <raghu> carambol, apt-cache search virusscanner
[02:43] <carambol> see  http://www.osnews.com
[02:45] <Ophiocus> tastyratz,  wise choice, ubuntu will be easy to install and learn with plenty of resource (like this place) to help you in the way
[02:45] <quail_linux> hehe...geek IRC gravestone  http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/11morbidbastid.jpg
[02:45] <aftertaf> carambol: a php security hole....
[02:45] <NewWithoutClue> ubuntu is _the_ linux learning distro, IMO
[02:46] <akurashy> hello, when i open bzflag it gives me this error, how can i fix this, i installed nvidia-glx/settings and is still like that, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4302
[02:46] <aftertaf> carambol: that have a lready been fixed ;)
[02:47] <frogzoo> folks, carambol's concern about worms is interesting - I'm wondering if Linux supports NX these days, & if so, are worm exploits still possible with NX enabled?
[02:47] <carambol> ok, aftertaf
[02:47] <ulaas> NewWithoutClue, ubuntu is _the_ linux learning. and after that hell using it forever distro.
[02:47] <funky> how can I see the services launched, I mean all the /etc/rc.X/ stuff
[02:47] <NewWithoutClue> ulaas, sure, why not? i love ubuntu.
[02:47] <frogzoo> oh, NX support was released mid 2004 - should have know ;)
[02:48] <frogzoo> there's your answer carambol, get an A64 & enable NX :D
[02:48] <carambol> ooooh
[02:48] <ulaas> NewWithoutClue, hell use it.. :)
[02:48] <Amaranth> exploits are still possible
[02:49] <Amaranth> NX makes buffer overruns harder
[02:49] <aftertaf> what is NX ?
[02:49] <Amaranth> it doesn't magically make all the viruses and worms stop working
[02:49] <carambol> frogzoo how i get the A64?
[02:49] <Amaranth> No eXecute bit
[02:49] <Amaranth> carambol: It's a CPU.
[02:49] <aftertaf> oki
[02:49] <carambol> oh..i see
[02:49] <carambol> stupid question
[02:50] <Amaranth> aftertaf: It marks memory holding data No eXecute so nasty programs can't exploit a program and put stuff there that gets run.
[02:50] <Shin_Gouki> hello i got a prob! im running ubuntu 5.04 and i cant install samba :/
[02:50] <raghu> Shin_Gouki: whats the problem?
[02:50] <NewWithoutClue> i have a security related query. Nothing urgent, so you can ignore me =)
[02:50] <nalioth> NewWithoutClue: ask your question
[02:51] <ph8> hi all
[02:51] <Shin_Gouki> when i type : sudo apt-get install samba it says: E: Unable to fetch some archives...
[02:51] <ph8> Does ubuntu come with gnome2 as standard or do i need to apt-get it?
[02:51] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: try again later, the repos are having a problem atm
[02:51] <Shin_Gouki> i tried apt-get updtae still...error :(
[02:51] <NewWithoutClue> would it be a lie if i were to say: " echo "ALL: ALL" >>/etc/hosts.deny makes me _very_ secure.
[02:51] <Shin_Gouki> shit
[02:51] <nalioth> ph8: it does come with it
[02:51] <Master_5> ph8 standard
[02:51] <Shin_Gouki> later is funny
[02:51] <raghu> Shin_Gouki: have you uncommented lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:51] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: dont be vulgar, please
[02:52] <ph8> i'm just looking at some themes to make my desktop look sexy and it's saying for gnome2.x and up (who knew there was a gnome2?! :p)
[02:52] <Shin_Gouki> hmm ok when u think problems will be solved..?
[02:52] <F-Jakob> Hi, how do i exit X?
[02:52] <Amaranth> NewWithoutClue: I don't see how that would be any different from a stock ubuntu install. Ubuntu doesn't have any ports open to the outside world by default.
[02:52] <Shin_Gouki> STR+ALT f3
[02:52] <Shin_Gouki> orf4
[02:52] <Amaranth> F-Jakob: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:53] <F-Jakob> ty
[02:53] <melalcoolique> hi
[02:53] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, were may i see when the problems are solved..?
[02:53] <NewWithoutClue> Amaranth,i have ssh running only for local use...and i add remote addresses when i need to. Was just wondering if that makes me very secure...given the fact that nothing is perfect...does this come close?
[02:54] <melalcoolique> is launchpad bugzilla down ?
[02:54] <Amaranth> NewWithoutClue: I don't see how it would help.
[02:54] <NewWithoutClue> Amaranth, so it makes no difference?
[02:54] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: you may try changing your sources URLs
[02:54] <Amaranth> NewWithoutClue: As far as I can tell, no.
[02:54] <Shin_Gouki> ok to what?, what do i have to insert?
[02:54] <tastyratz> does linux support win xp ntfs integrated file compression?
[02:55] <Shin_Gouki> LOL
[02:55] <NewWithoutClue> Amaranth, i felt safe. Thanks alot. geez.
[02:55] <serpie> difference between reiserfs and reiser4?
[02:55] <NewWithoutClue> :-D
[02:55] <Amaranth> NewWithoutClue: You were already safe.
[02:55] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: in your sources.list do you have us.archive.bhel or another country code?
[02:55] <raghu> Shin_Gouki: uncomment repositories line in sources.list
[02:55] <Amaranth> serpie: reiserfs is reiser3
[02:55] <NewWithoutClue> Amaranth, no.
[02:55] <frogzoo> NewWithoutClue: deny ALL: ALL isn't such a bad idea if you don't plan to run any services - security rule #1 is turn off everything you're not using
[02:56] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth can u plz be a bit more specific? what u mean by country code..?
[02:56] <frogzoo> tastyratz: ntfs support is only read only AFAIK, and I don't think compression's supported at all
[02:56] <serpie> Amaranth: So what does 4 have that 3 doesn't?
[02:56] <Amaranth> serpie: Everything.
[02:56] <Amaranth> serpie: Neither one is worth using though.
[02:56] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: paste your sources.list please
[02:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Shin_Gouki about paste
[02:56] <Shin_Gouki> kk
[02:57] <NewWithoutClue> frogzoo, ok, just a question about a certain service that i have been thinking about....dhclient3...has an open port...why? is it needed?
[02:57] <Shin_Gouki> i know THAT ^^
[02:57] <Shin_Gouki> its topic :P
[02:57] <dirkdiggler> What application does the opposite of DVDRIP? Meaning i have an .avi file and would like to burn it to DVD - in DVD format (whatever that is).
[02:57] <phoenix_atlantis> Hi folks, does anybody know under what conditions a user is shown in the gdm face browser? (gdm 2.6.0 - debian)?
[02:57] <Amaranth> dirkdiggler: You wouldn't be talking about burning illegal copies of DVDs, would you?
[02:57] <dirkdiggler> sorry I know that was question was a little off topic
[02:58] <dirkdiggler> Amarnath: Nope
[02:58] <`ph8> i'm just looking at some themes to make my desktop look sexy and it's saying for gnome2.x and up (who knew there was a gnome2?! :p) How do i upgrade to gnome 2? All themes for gnome 1 just say 'invalid file format' as well - is that a common problem?
[02:58] <frogzoo> NewWithoutClue: you need that port to receive a DHCP address - you need it if you use DHCP - but can still lock down to local subnet
[02:58] <Master_5> dirkdiggler: doesn't dvdrip do both?
[02:58] <infested_maggot> can someone help me with a port forwarding pls ?
[02:58] <frogzoo> Amaranth: no mention of warez there - just a technical question :)
[02:59] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth here is my sourceslist,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4305
[02:59] <NewWithoutClue> frogzoo, i've just been killing the process :)
[02:59] <NewWithoutClue> frogzoo, thanks.
[02:59] <dirkdiggler> Master_5: I'm not sure. I had a quick look earlier didnt see anything obvious...
[02:59] <Amaranth> dirkdiggler: http://dvd.chevelless230.com/ - first in google for 'burn DVD linux' :P
[02:59] <dirkdiggler> Master_5: best take a closer look I guess.
[03:00] <ph8> anyone? ;)
[03:00] <frogzoo> Amaranth: dirkdiggler Peeps should appreciate that cracking CSS is now illegal in some countries - Finland?
[03:00] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: looks good, try again later
[03:00] <Master_5> dirkdiggler: ah i couldn't remember....avidemux and dvdauthor together will do the trick there's a nice howto on it somewhere
[03:00] <Master_5> dirkdiggler google avi to dvd
[03:00] <tastyratz> ok I have a sift memory and had to run the install again to get it. right after setting up partitioner is where it got stuck
[03:01] <Amaranth> frogzoo: Any EU country that accepting the EU's version of the DMCA.
[03:01] <roshan> Can anyone help me? Pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1...F6 doesn't show any virtual consoles. I just get a blank screen.
[03:01] <linuxgeek2> !hi
[03:01] <ubotu> hi!
[03:01] <tastyratz> i remember seeing that screen, but I dont remember seeing the disk partitioning screen
[03:01] <Lathiat> roshan: what Xorg driver?
[03:01] <Master_5> roshan: did you kill the getty processes?
[03:01] <linuxgeek2> !fonts
[03:01] <ubotu> methinks fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[03:01] <dirkdiggler> Amaranth: Thanks for the tip - but it doesnt help me. I'm starting with an .avi file
[03:02] <dirkdiggler> Master_5: Thanks.
[03:02] <akurashy> Where do I get extra fonts for mplayer, I'm having a weird font problem with it
[03:02] <roshan> Lathiat, I'm using the nvidia driver. Master_5, I didn't kill the getty processes
[03:02] <Lathiat> roshan: thats probably why
[03:02] <Lathiat> roshan: the nvidia driver breaks things in lots of interesting ways
[03:02] <Lathiat> roshan: see if it happens with the 'nv' driver
[03:02] <tastyratz> ive got a crapload of drives and partitions on my system, i wonder if that has anything to do with it
[03:02] <tastyratz> maybe something with one of them is pissing off the installer
[03:02] <Master_5> Lathiat: which version of the nvidia drivers...i use it all the time and that's never happened to me
[03:03] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth ok laters is a word...can u be a bit more specifc? 1 day? 4 hours? 3 weeks?
[03:03] <tastyratz> my drive letters go up to O in windows, and ive got 2 other linux only partitions reserved for when I did this
[03:03] <roshan> Lathiat, I'll try that. Thanks for the help. nvidia-glx-config disable should do the trick, right?
[03:03] <Master_5> roshan: ps -x and see if there are any processes named getty
[03:03] <nathan__> has anyone found ubuntu causes vmware 5 to hog the cpu when initialising a reboot
[03:03] <Lathiat> roshan: yeh
[03:03] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: next year?
[03:03] <Lathiat> nathan__: yes i have noticed that, solution si not to do a reboot
[03:03] <tiglore> dont suppose there is any one who could help me get sound going on my latop?
[03:03] <deeler> Xvnc segfaults ! , anyone else has this problem ? ? ?
[03:04] <nathan__> Lathiat, any idea why?
[03:04] <roshan> Master_5, there are 6 getty processes. Lathiat says it might be an nvidia problem. I'll try changing to nv
[03:04] <Lathiat> nathan__: nope, i assumed it was a vmware bug
[03:04] <frogzoo> nathan maybe nice vmware?
[03:04] <Master_5> roshan: ok then..never seen it not work with the nvidia drivers but ok
[03:05] <deeLer> Xvnc segmentation fault on startup ! , anyone else has this problem ? ? ?
[03:05] <deeLer> i'm using ubuntu server amd64
[03:05] <nathan__> frogzoo, well that would work but not sure if it'd ever actually reboot
[03:05] <hussam> I got firefox 1.5 from ftp.mozilla.org but firefox won't use the gtk2 fonts like other gtk2 apps like synaptic. any ideas?
[03:05] <nathan__> frogzoo, the cpu would still sit at 100% usage doing that anyway
[03:07] <frogzoo> nathan__: sure, but wouldn't "hog" if you wanted to do something else it would play "nice"
[03:07] <infested_maggot> can someone help me with a port forwarding pls ?
[03:08] <ke> Hmm, when I try to install (kubuntu though) it says something about write error or something... "No more space, og try burning at a slower speed"
[03:08] <ke> Might it be because I burned it on 52x?
[03:08] <nathan__> frogzoo, still horrible, but yeah its not too much of a problem im just playing with ubuntu to see what its like
[03:09] <nalioth> ke: burn your ubuntu iso while you watch tv (burn it slowwwwwly)
[03:10] <frogzoo> nathan__: if you stick with the supported apps, Ubuntu is pretty cool
[03:10] <dylan_> anybody know where i can get the w32codecs as a deb?
[03:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dylan_ about w32codecs
[03:10] <nathan__> dylan_, ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/
[03:10] <nathan__> oops
[03:10] <nathan__> thas debian, mightw work with ubuntu :)
[03:11] <jack-> not recommended
[03:11] <Habbie> debian-marillat is what the ubuntu wiki recommends
[03:11] <jack-> w32codecs is in the backports repo i think
[03:11] <Habbie> and as the deb only contains windows dll there is no ubuntu vs. debian compatibility issue
[03:11] <jack-> mmh ok
[03:12] <kestas> guys I keep hearing a random noice
[03:12] <kestas> noise
[03:12] <kestas> and I dont know what's making it :s
[03:12] <tiglore> any one can help get sound up on a old dell latop, its a 300 cpi, prob has a isa cs4236 sound card
[03:12] <kestas> (coming from my PC)
[03:13] <nathan__> acid :)
[03:13] <kestas> :P
[03:13] <jack-> apt-get install beep
[03:13] <jack-> problem solved
[03:13] <nathan__> tiglore, isapnp ?
[03:13] <frogzoo> jack-: re backports for breezy, see menu ^^
[03:14] <ph8> does anyone know how to install gnome2?
[03:14] <tiglore> been tinkiering with that and few other solutions that turned up searching
[03:14] <nathan__> tiglore, does it show up in the dump ?
[03:14] <tiglore> most of them though are for older version of ubuntu, and it seeems they changed some of the config structure in the newer version
[03:15] <trond> morgen
[03:15] <Fergy2> morgen
[03:15] <nathan__> gutten tag
[03:15] <Bosse> 'afternoon
[03:15] <Fergy2> haben sie ein grote worst?
[03:16] <frogzoo> Fergy - I think you want #ubuntu-de ?
[03:16] <tiglore> yeah it does
[03:16] <trond> is this topic german??
[03:16] <nathan__> ok in that case should just need some rejiggery
[03:17] <tiglore> this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22180 is the closes fix ive seen to getting it working
[03:17] <Amaranth> !de
[03:17] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[03:17] <tiglore> but its for a older version
[03:17] <jack-> !narf
[03:17] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, jack-
[03:18] <Master_5> !poit
[03:18] <ubotu> Master_5: No idea
[03:18] <b1n0ry> i've never used ubuntu but i'm in the process of downloading the livecd. does ubuntu include an automated package update utility (like yum or apt) and does it use rpm binary packages?
[03:18] <ShitHawk> hi... I've just inherited an Ubuntu box.. How can I tell what version it's running from theCL?
[03:19] <jaime> ubuntu use apt
[03:19] <Master_5> b1n0ry: it's debian based...apt
[03:19] <b1n0ry> ok, i haven't used apt, but i can learn it, i'm sure
[03:19] <Master_5> b1n0ry easier than anything you've used before probably
[03:19] <bobdesloper> helo
[03:19] <frogzoo> b1n0ry: apt yes - rpms - no
[03:20] <b1n0ry> Master_5 i dunno, yum is very easy "yum update" wait a few and done :)
[03:20] <bobdesloper> i have a question abuot ubunt
[03:20] <bobdesloper> ubunt*
[03:20] <b1n0ry> but i'll have to try apt for myself. i'm sure it's not very difficult.
[03:20] <Master_5> b1n0ry, try it you'll see
[03:20] <funky> how can I know what services (lauched through /etc/rc.X) are currently running, any idea ?
[03:20] <funky> something like rc-status in gentoo
[03:21] <wezzer> how to uninstall flash player from firefox?
[03:21] <frogzoo> b1n0ry: you might like synaptic - gui to apt - very straightforward
[03:21] <bobdesloper> is there a posibility to get Windows aplications run on ubuntu
[03:21] <b1n0ry> how are pre-compiled binaries distributed?
[03:21] <Amaranth> !wine
[03:21] <b1n0ry> frogzoo thanks, i'll make a note of that
[03:21] <Amaranth> stupid bot
[03:21] <Master_5> wezzer: apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[03:21] <Master_5> i think
[03:21] <nathan__> bobdesloper, wine and vmware
[03:21] <Master_5> heh
[03:21] <jaime> what's the diference betwen ubuntu and kbuntu?
[03:21] <Amaranth> !+wine
[03:21] <thenuke> bobdesloper: what applications? games?  cedega for games
[03:21] <Amaranth> that's it
[03:21] <ShitHawk> anyone know how to tell what ver ubuntu Im running so I can find an appropriate sources.list?
[03:21] <thenuke> jaime: ubuntu has gnome, kubuntu kde
[03:22] <bobdesloper> scool things like Multi sim Auto Cad
[03:22] <Master_5> jaime: gnome is standard in ubuntu, kubuntu has kde added
[03:22] <Ophiocus> jaime kubuntu runs the kde gui ubuntu runs with gnome, thats all i know
[03:22] <Ophiocus> :)
[03:22] <wezzer> Master_5: _uninstall_ ;)
[03:22] <Master_5> only difference
[03:22] <thenuke> bobdesloper: maybe wine can run them, and with vmware you can actually run windows in your ubuntu
[03:22] <Master_5> wezzer
[03:22] <Master_5> sorry
[03:22] <Master_5> change install to remove
[03:23] <wezzer> ok
[03:23] <ShitHawk> can anyone help me with a few questions? thansk
[03:23] <ShitHawk> thanks
[03:23] <frogzoo> funky: install "bum"
[03:23] <funky> frogzoo: ok, thx, Im going to try
[03:23] <Amaranth> should i kick the bot or make it leave with admin powers?
[03:23] <Amaranth> it's useless having it in the channel now
[03:24] <ShitHawk> anyone?
[03:24] <wezzer> Master_5: flasplayer-mozilla package ins't even installed
[03:24] <Ophiocus> no way uboto rulz
[03:24] <ShitHawk> bueller?
[03:24] <wezzer> but still I have flash working
[03:24] <selinium> ShitHawk, Hi there, firstly can you change your nick, it goes againt the code of conduct here... I will be happy to help..
[03:24] <Ophiocus> ShitHawk, i dont want to say swearwords every time i need to adress you, ..
[03:24] <kestas> RRRR WTF IS MAKING THAT SOUND??
[03:24] <kestas> how can I find out
[03:24] <Master_5> heh
[03:24] <ShitHawk> ah .. np hang on
[03:24] <kestas> every now and then there's a 'ding-dong' sound
[03:25] <Amaranth> kestas: everything makes that noise
[03:25] <Amaranth> kestas: it's like a drum, right?
[03:25] <Hnnnnnng> How do i see with kernel i got?
[03:25] <jaime> can I use dapper servers in my source.list???
[03:25] <Master_5> wezzer: why do you want to uninstall it anyway?
[03:25] <Master_5> Hnnnnnng: uname -r
[03:25] <selinium> SweetHawk, much better!
[03:25] <kestas> Amaranth, nope, this is more like 'ding-dong' like a doorbell
[03:25] <Ophiocus> kestas, have you ordered pizza? look at the front door
[03:25] <kestas> never heard it before
[03:25] <wezzer> Master_5: because websites are too flashy
[03:25] <frogzoo> kestas: is this a metallic twang? describe the sound
[03:25] <kestas> heheheh
[03:25] <Amaranth> kestas: sounds like gaim
[03:25] <kestas> gaim eh
[03:25] <wezzer> Master_5: and my adblock extension is broken too
[03:25] <wezzer> so I can't block them
[03:26] <frogzoo> kestas: hard disk might be failing ... how old is it?
[03:26] <kestas> got it ;) thanks Amaranth
[03:26] <kestas> and frogzoo .. thats the worst suggestion of all
[03:26] <kestas> tip your head in shame
[03:26] <Master_5> wezzer: you can search synaptic for flash and see what you have installed
[03:26] <SweetHawk> Im trying to get an inherited box up to date.. how can I tell the Ubuntu ver so I can build an appropriate sources.list?
[03:26] <frogzoo> :p
[03:26] <Master_5> wezzer: then remove it
[03:26] <tiglore> ahhh sound I remember installing other distros on this lptop and having sound ...
[03:26] <wezzer> Master_5: ok, thanks
[03:26] <kestas> why would a failing hard disk go 'ding-dong'?
[03:27] <frogzoo> kestas: how many hard disks have you had fail on you?
[03:27] <b1n0ry> to let you know
[03:27] <nathan__> out the speakers? that woould be impressive
[03:27] <selinium> SweetHawk, Goto System/help it will tell you what version you have installed
[03:27] <Master_5> tiglore is your regular user a member of the "audio" group?
[03:27] <b1n0ry> it's that new Smart-IDE technology :)
[03:27] <kestas> frogzoo, just one
[03:27] <frogzoo> nathan__: missed the speakers bit :)
[03:27] <trpdx> !tell
[03:27] <kestas> personally a door bell isn't the sound of a piece of hardware about to fail
[03:27] <selinium> SweetHawk, 5.04  or  5.10
[03:28] <tiglore> Ubuntu is not loading the modules correclty for sound, its knows i have a sound card, just not how to interface with it, as it is a crystal sound isa baord
[03:28] <SweetHawk> Selinium, Im CL only
[03:28] <SweetHawk> no GUI yet
[03:28] <tiglore> so autodetect is all confused
[03:28] <nathan__> have you ever heard the motherboards that say this after POST: 'post successfull now booting operating system' in a female's voice.. so cheezy
[03:28] <kestas> nathan__, 'system intializing..' urghh
[03:28] <b1n0ry> nathan__ where can i get one?
[03:28] <selinium> SweetHawk, np, sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list   it will tell you in there!
[03:28] <tastyratz> how do I partition a smaller partition in the kubuntu installer?
[03:29] <b1n0ry> nathan__ i want to paranoy my wife
[03:29] <selinium> SweetHawk, have you used vim before?
[03:29] <kestas> I think there was one in knoppix
[03:29] <nathan__> i shall find out for you... lol
[03:29] <frogzoo> nathan__:  but is it a _sexaie_ female voice?
[03:29] <SweetHawk> Ive used vi
[03:29] <SweetHawk> pretty close right?
[03:29] <tastyratz> it seems to be going through in the virtual pc but it wont let me partition anything smaller than the entire remaining contents of the disk the virtual hard drive is on
[03:29] <selinium> SweetHawk, same thing, but better :)
[03:29] <SweetHawk> sweet
[03:29] <nathan__> frogzoo, american bodybuilder
[03:29] <frogzoo> nice!
[03:29] <SweetHawk> just a sec let me look
[03:29] <selinium> SweetHawk, np :)
[03:30] <drcode> hi all
[03:31] <SweetHawk> k. 5.04 Hoary Hedgehog
[03:31] <drcode> any one know about jpegtran
[03:31] <selinium> drcode, hi :)
[03:31] <drcode> I want to change pixel
[03:31] <drcode> so the image will be smaller
[03:31] <selinium> SweetHawk, and you want to upgrade to breezy?
[03:31] <drcode> i convert it to my palm and the image are big
[03:31] <SweetHawk> thanks. no of a good place to find a built sources.list? the existing one is returning all kinds of errors
[03:31] <dylan_> I've installed mplayer-386 and w32codecs and yet I cannot play videos in Firefox without Totem starting...what do i do?
[03:32] <SweetHawk> selinium, is that possible?
[03:32] <Master_5> dylan
[03:32] <nathan__> dylan_, theres a plugin for that purpose :)
[03:32] <Master_5> dylan_: install the mozilla-mplayer  plugin
[03:32] <selinium> SweetHawk, yep, easy.... :)
[03:32] <nalioth> SweetHawk: the repos are having problems atm
[03:32] <dylan_> Master_5, thanks a billion
[03:32] <SweetHawk> oh
[03:32] <LathropWells> a plug in to edit file associations????? - (scratches head)
[03:32] <selinium> hi nalioth, didn't know that myself! :)
[03:33] <SweetHawk> selinium, how would I go about the upgrade?
[03:33] <selinium> SweetHawk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  :)
[03:33] <nathan__> o0o0 my first ubuntu install is ready, brb :)
[03:33] <selinium> nathan__ :)
[03:33] <SweetHawk> nice.. thanks very much. sorry bout the name
[03:34] <nathan__> ok we have a nice enya like intro tune... mmmm
[03:34] <selinium> SweetHawk, np at all! But we have users from a young age upwards in here... :)
[03:34] <dragon> hmm ubuntu is cool :)
[03:34] <tiglore> why did they remove alsaconf form the standard intall, it would make things so much easier :/
[03:34] <bobdesloper> i agree
[03:34] <LathropWells> Ubuntu is cool
[03:34] <dragon> yup
[03:34] <nathan__> i'll prob moan about a few things being a debianeer :)
[03:35] <SweetHawk> I understand... thanks again for the help. Have a good one. Im goign to go read that
[03:35] <selinium> SweetHawk, You will find this channel very friendly and helpful, but we do try to stick to the code of conduct! :) http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[03:35] <selinium> SweetHawk, See you soon! :)
[03:35] <Diny> hay can someone tell me how to update ubuntu from 5.04 to 5.10, that i will still have all programs that i have now?
[03:35] <SirKillalot2> anybody using the primax scanner driver?
[03:35] <SweetHawk> excellent.. I will be back
[03:35] <selinium> nathan__ We will soon turn you into an Ubuntite!
[03:36] <Master_5> Diny: change your /etc/apt/sources.list to the new repos and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:36] <nalioth> Diny: that is correct
[03:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Diny about breezy
[03:36] <frogzoo> Diny apt-get dist-upgrade & cross your fingers
[03:36] <Diny> am i have new cd iso 5.10
[03:37] <selinium> SweetHawk, Be advised if the repos are having problems, apt-get upgrade and such may not function properly at the mo.
[03:37] <bobdesloper> i have 2 lucent p112T 24 port Switches who is interesst?
[03:37] <frogzoo> bobdesloper: do they run Ubuntu?
[03:37] <nalioth> bobdesloper: that is off topic for this channel, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:37] <jack-> switches? :p
[03:37] <SweetHawk> selinium, One more question after looking at the firt lines of that.. Where can I get an up to date sources.list for 5.04? It wasnt working a couple days ago either, so Im not sure its rep problems
[03:37] <nalioth> frogzoo: off topic
[03:37] <jack-> bobdesloper: i'm interested
[03:37] <yahya> how can I make quicktime videos work?
[03:38] <nalioth> jack-: frogzoo bobdesloper y'all all go to #ubuntu-offtopic and have a blast
[03:38] <frogzoo> nalioth: I believe my question was Ubuntu on topic :p
[03:38] <nalioth> frogzoo: lucent switches run anything
[03:38] <nalioth> yahya: install libquicktime
[03:38] <selinium> SweetHawk, ubotu should have sent you the links
[03:38] <selinium> SweetHawk, :)
[03:38] <LathropWells> Anyone have any ideas on what to do with all the windows utilities on CD we don't need anymore?      (Anti-virus, Adware trojan remover, Active Registry monitor. Disk Defragmenter, )
[03:38] <Ophiocus> yahya, check the ubuntu starter guide->multimedia
[03:38] <dragon> i have question, how to do to LEXMARK P4350 Works?
[03:39] <SweetHawk> ooh.. preesh.. Thanks youall
[03:39] <Diny> am ( 15:36:13 ) ( Master_5 ) Diny: change your /etc/apt/sources.list to the new repos and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ///// am new reops? where do i get that list?
[03:39] <nalioth> LathropWells: use it as a coaster
[03:39] <selinium> SweetHawk, np at all, See you around soon! :)
[03:39] <nalioth> Diny: check your private msgs
[03:39] <SweetHawk> cya
[03:39] <Diny> yeah
[03:39] <Diny> ok
[03:39] <LathropWells> nalioth - interesting aol disks are running low.
[03:39] <bobdesloper> jack- private..
[03:40] <Ophiocus> btw i think that guide could use a howto for proxy and internet sharing
[03:40] <jack-> i have question, how pimple squeezing work?
[03:40] <jack-> ok
[03:40] <dragon> i have question, how to do to LEXMARK P4350 Works?
[03:40] <LathropWells> !nat
[03:40] <ubotu> LathropWells: I haven't a clue
[03:40] <LathropWells> !firestarter
[03:40] <ubotu> firestarter is, like, Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic
[03:40] <Master_5> heh
[03:40] <n9uib> good morning everyone
[03:41] <nadia> Mornin....  Anyone created a Compact Flash boot disk before?
[03:41] <nalioth> bobdesloper: if you join #ubuntu-offtopic you may be able to auction the thing, several of us are interested and waiting
[03:41] <Master_5> morning
[03:41] <dragon> i go... cya
[03:41] <nadia> bye dragon.
[03:41] <fredforfaen> !e17
[03:41] <LathropWells> firestarter can smooth the way in setting up a more standard internet proxying gateway.
[03:42] <selinium> fredforfaen, there you go!
[03:43] <Ophiocus> http://www.aboutdebian.com/proxy.htm has it all, although id like to see it from the ubuntu standpoint, only for ubuntu guide completeness
[03:43] <Diny> btw is there possible to add some programs to startup that they would be run each time i run pc (need to run programs for specific user!)
[03:43] <nadia> I've got a box that used to be a router.  Now I'm trying to install ubuntu on it.  Unfortunately this box doesn't have connectors for keyboard and mouse and can't get to the bios.  So would like to create an autoinstall boot on a compact flash.
[03:43] <selinium> Diny, yep system /prefs/session
[03:44] <frogzoo> Diny: edit ~/.gnomerc
[03:44] <n9uib> ubuntu is such a great distro..... i have tried alot, but by far, this is the easiest to configure and use
[03:44] <Ophiocus> oh and the ubuntu guide in networking has a typo on step 6, where do i report that again?
[03:44] <Obi-1> need some help configuring my network
[03:45] <frogzoo> nadia: grub-floppy /dev/xxx should get you started
[03:45] <nalioth> Ophiocus: which ubuntu guide?
[03:45] <xbox_sky> yeah..I just hope I will learn stuff.. meaning not THAT easy...
[03:45] <Obi-1> have some problems with the gui
[03:45] <xbox_sky> you got problems with the gui?
[03:45] <frogzoo> Obi-1: maybe edit directly /etc/networks/interfaces
[03:45] <nadia> frogzoo..  type that up in bash in ubuntu?
[03:45] <xbox_sky> ah
[03:45] <Ophiocus> nalioth, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-dhcp-server    ->step six
[03:46] <Hoxzer> when I try to convert DC++ and when I use scons I get error "Checking for None >= 3.4...ValueError: invalid literal for int(): s:" what should I do?
[03:46] <nalioth> Ophiocus: step into #ubuntu-doc and let them know
[03:46] <Obi-1> but i can`t edit it with my notepad becouse it requires root passw... doesn`t it^
[03:47] <Amaranth> grr
[03:47] <thenuke> Obi-1: if the pc is yours, you have the right to be admin of it :)
[03:47] <thenuke> Obi-1: sudo nano for example starts nano as a root
[03:47] <thenuke> Obi-1: sudo asks for your password
[03:47] <frogzoo> nadia: that will get you grub installed on the thing, then you need somehow to get the install to the usb key
[03:48] <Master_5> Obi-1: my favorite is sudo passwd root
[03:48] <darklightred83> help
[03:48] <darklightred83> any1
[03:48] <darklightred83> please
[03:48] <Master_5> hah
[03:48] <trappist> quit scrolling and ask a question.
[03:48] <darklightred83> what does linux ubuntu uses when it comes to threads?
[03:48] <Diny> am frogzoo can you give me little better instructions how to ad programs ?
[03:48] <yahya> Ophiocus: I can an error 'w32codecs is not available but referred by another package'
[03:49] <darklightred83> what does linux ubuntu uses when it comes to threads?
[03:49] <nalioth> darklightred83: please dont repeat
[03:49] <darklightred83> what does linux ubuntu uses when it comes to threads?
[03:49] <trappist> dude.
[03:49] <darklightred83> sorry
[03:49] <trappist> where's my @
[03:49] <darklightred83> ans?
[03:49] <Amaranth> trappist: In some other channel.
[03:49] <Amaranth> darklightred83: why does that matter?
[03:49] <GURT> what is nano?
[03:49] <trappist> Amaranth: it was a rhetorical question, but thanks.
[03:50] <trappist> GURT: text editor
[03:50] <darklightred83> anyone?
[03:50] <GURT> ty
[03:50] <darklightred83> help?
[03:50] <Amaranth> darklightred83: why do you need to know?
[03:50] <nathan__> darklightred83, what are you trying to find out exactly ?
[03:50] <Master_5> exactly
[03:50] <darklightred83> its my ass.
[03:50] <Amaranth> ...
[03:50] <darklightred83> assignmnet
[03:50] <nathan__> lamer
[03:50] <nalioth> darklightred83: please wait for an answer. pestering the channel is not helping you at all
[03:50] <darklightred83> okay
[03:50] <Amaranth> darklightred83: We don't do homework.
[03:50] <darklightred83> this is what i know so far
[03:51] <darklightred83> linux is a open source code ryt?.
[03:51] <Master_5> good start
[03:51] <Jemt> Greetings. I have shared a folder on my computer (the folder is located on a removable device). The folder is shared using Samba. But I am not able to mount it from another Linux computer using 'mount -t vfat -o username=jemt,password=foo //ip/folder /mnt/net' (the file system on the removable device is FAT32). I have also add'et the user 'jemt' to Samba, enabled the account and assigned a password. Please help me :)
[03:51] <nathan__> im impressed if your homework directly referers to ubuntu :)
[03:51] <xbox_sky> stupid question.. in order to see the bot commands, I'll do a !help,@help.help or...!??
[03:51] <frogzoo> Diny: open synaptic, search for your package, select it & click apply - & your'e done
[03:51] <darklightred83> now linux ubuntu uses kernel 2.6.
[03:51] <GURT> !test
[03:51] <Amaranth> xbox_sky: /msg ubotu help
[03:51] <xbox_sky> cheers m8
[03:51] <Master_5> jemt smbmount maybe
[03:52] <darklightred83> ryt?
[03:52] <Jemt> Master_5: Nope :)
[03:52] <Amaranth> darklightred83: linux is the kernel
[03:52] <Master_5> heh
[03:52] <darklightred83> yez
[03:52] <frogzoo> xbox_sky: /msg ubotu help
[03:52] <veepster> jemt, what software are you using to mount? plain mount command is useful between 2 linux boxes running NFS. for windows, you probably need samba running
[03:52] <Amaranth> darklightred83: the kernel is called linux and is at version 2.6.14
[03:53] <darklightred83> ahh okay thanks for the info.
[03:53] <darklightred83> now what i need to know is the thread that was used in the kernel?
[03:53] <frogzoo> darklightred83: many of the user space programs were developed by Gnu - which is why some refer to Gnu Linux
[03:53] <darklightred83> i always ends up with fork() and clone()
[03:53] <Jemt> veepster: The "host" is running Samba. The "client" has 'sambaclient' installed. I though that would be enough. What should I install on the client in order to make it possible for me to connect ?
[03:54] <frogzoo> darklightred83: it all starts with init - process 1
[03:54] <Amaranth> darklightred83: For that you want google. We don't do homework. :P
[03:54] <darklightred83> :(
[03:54] <Jemt> veepster: Btw - I got no problems connecting from Windows
[03:54] <Master_5> sco spy
[03:54] <ScatterBrain> I just added my normal user account to a new group.  Is there a way that I can force those changes to take affect _without_ logging off and back in?
[03:54] <darklightred83> o i c
[03:54] <nathan__> ScatterBrain, not that i know of
[03:55] <guillem101> I upgraded to breezy my AMD64 some time before, and now I am planning to upgrade the 32bit chroot... do I have to take care about anything special rather the default upgrading method for the 32bit chroot part?
[03:55] <wickedpuppy> ScatterBrain, once you added normal user account to a group .. it stays that way ....
[03:55] <Amaranth> http://www.google.com/search?q=linux%20thread
[03:55] <darklightred83> could anyone could give info where i could find specific answers?
[03:55] <Amaranth> darklightred83: ok, now that you see how that works the answer is: LinuxThreads or POSIX Threads
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> darklightred83, ##c
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> they have experienced c gurus who has experience with linux programming ...
[03:56] <caonex> anybody using fglrx?
[03:57] <nathan__> caonex, probably a few thousand
[03:57] <darklightred83> posix threads has problems or bugs, so i supose that this was not used in ubuntu.
[03:58] <n9uib> well, it got awful quiet in here...lol
[03:58] <nathan__> darklightred83, LinuxThreads is an implementation of POSIX
[03:58] <ice9> nice distro in all but not much of a gnome fan anyway I can change to kde ?
[03:58] <nathan__> ICE9, kubuntu
[03:58] <darklightred83> o i c
[03:58] <LathropWells> sure install   sudo kubuntu-desktop
[03:58] <darklightred83>  i thought that this was different treads
[03:58] <darklightred83> thanks
[03:58] <ICE9> really thats it
[03:59] <nathan__> darklightred83, LinuxThreads uses clone()
[03:59] <veepster> jemt, you dont need to 'mount' from the server
[03:59] <LathropWells> xubuntu-desktop   or xfce-desktop
[03:59] <nathan__> now google for the rest of your homework :)
[03:59] <veepster> errm
[03:59] <veepster> thats not what I meant to say
[03:59] <veepster> you dont need any extra software on the client
[03:59] <LathropWells> !desktop
[03:59] <darklightred83> so my base search should be linuxthreads?
[03:59] <LathropWells> !desktops
[03:59] <darklightred83> ryt?
[03:59] <ArdieM> where is the folder for fonts like ttf ??
[04:00] <nathan__> darklightred83, LinuxThreads FAQ
[04:01] <darklightred83> okay ill try searching, thanks
[04:01] <ICE9> are you sure thats the command
[04:01] <ICE9> sudo kubunut-desktop
[04:01] <nathan__> darklightred83, NPTL is another pointer
[04:01] <ICE9> nothing else
[04:01] <darklightred83> you're all a big help for clearing things on my mind
[04:01] <Master_5> sudo aptget install kubuntu-desktop
[04:01] <darklightred83> ill try to ask if i have loose ends again
[04:01] <Master_5> -
[04:01] <ICE9> thats wht I though
[04:01] <ICE9> thx
[04:02] <darklightred83> NPLT the site does not load
[04:02] <deeLer> how to remove the wallpaper from an ubuntu icewm desktop ????
[04:02] <nathan__> darklightred83, try wikipedia ?
[04:02] <JakobGedionsen> how do i install the  kernel source pakage in ubuntu
[04:02] <Master_5> forgot the - in apt-get i did
[04:02] <ICE9> umm
[04:02] <ICE9> invalid
[04:02] <DShepherd> hey I want to install ubuntu....with no desktop....then use VMWARE wrapper to XP on it....How do I install ubuntu without the desktop...just ubuntu's base
[04:02] <ICE9> hmm
[04:03] <LathropWells> DShepherd, server install
[04:03] <ICE9> sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[04:03] <ICE9> E: Invalid operation kubuntu-desktop
[04:03] <Master_5> install
[04:03] <nathan__> DShepherd, X is required for vmware
[04:03] <Master_5> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:03] <ICE9> also is there a way to use root
[04:03] <LathropWells> nathan_ - good tip. :0
[04:03] <DShepherd> nathan__: oh ok..
[04:03] <ICE9> instead of sudo
[04:03] <nathan__> LathropWells, why thankyou :)
[04:03] <Master_5> ICE9: sudo passwd root
[04:04] <ICE9> thx
[04:04] <Master_5> ICE9: set root password and then login
[04:04] <DShepherd> nathan__: So can I install X plus like the base....nothing else...
[04:04] <selinium> darklightred83, here is POSIX explianed   http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-posix1.html
[04:04] <ICE9> this is different then debian
[04:04] <nadia> I'm trying to do a grub-floopy on a compact flash.  I can see my compact flash at /media/usbdisk, but when I run grub-floppy /media/usbdisk I get a not a block device error.  Any suggestions?
[04:04] <Master_5> a little
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> ICE9, using root is discouraged .... very strongly discouraged
[04:04] <JakobGedionsen> how do i install the  kernel source pakage in ubuntu
[04:04] <nathan__> DShepherd, you could install something like twm or blackbox if you do not want the bloadedness of gnome/kde
[04:04] <ICE9> why is that
[04:04] <LathropWells> !usbstick
[04:04] <ICE9> for security
[04:05] <nathan__> sed/bloadedness/bloatedness
[04:05] <Master_5> JakobGedionsen sudo apt-get install kernel-source
[04:05] <ICE9> is sudo the new thing now
[04:05] <Master_5> ICE9  just in ubuntu
[04:05] <Master_5> ice9 they prefer sudo
[04:05] <Master_5> i prefer root
[04:05] <nadia> !usbstick?
[04:05] <selinium> DShepherd, nathan__ :  here you go https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[04:05] <ICE9> your preferece is it better
[04:06] <ICE9> I perfer root too just cause use to it
[04:06] <Master_5> ice9 sudo is more secure i guess
[04:06] <LathropWells> nadia - ubotu has a link for creating bootable flash media
[04:06] <ICE9> ok
[04:06] <DShepherd> nathan_ I dont mind gnome of kde...but......I dont want some of those packages that comes with ubuntu...just enough to run X and ubuntu....What I mean,.ubuntu with minimal packages
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> sudo force you to type 4 more characters ... lol
[04:06] <nathan__> DShepherd, maybe refer to that url from selinium
[04:07] <Master_5> JakobGedionsen did you get the kernel source installed?
[04:07] <ICE9> yeah its a lazy thing
[04:07] <ICE9> lol
[04:07] <selinium> ICE9, DOnt use root unless you want an insecure system. Also if you type something at the command line the worst you can do is borjk the user. If you use root you can borj the machine!
[04:07] <ICE9> true
[04:07] <nadia> lathropwells, where can I find the link!
[04:07] <selinium> ICE9, s/borjk/bork
[04:07] <Master_5> selinium: sudo can hose a machine just as easy
[04:07] <LathropWells> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en here is part 1 of 3 (hope i can find the rest)
[04:07] <ICE9> are there any security holes in ubuntu
[04:08] <ICE9> that you know of
[04:08] <selinium> Master_5, Yep but you tend to use sudo when you need to. Rather than arbitarily
[04:08] <DShepherd> nathan__: selinium That ubuntu with XCFE.. that just a replacement for kde and gnome. windows manager or desktop manager is not really a problem. How do I install ubuntu with minimal packages. Enough packs to make it run
[04:08] <Master_5> true selinium
[04:08] <Habbie> DShepherd: type 'server' at the CD bootprompt :)
[04:08] <ICE9> never tried xfce
[04:08] <ICE9> or fluxbox
[04:09] <Master_5> both are nice
[04:09] <ICE9> I heard flux is really nice
[04:09] <ICE9> better then kde or no
[04:09] <LathropWells> nadia http://www.ubuntux.org/node/167
[04:09] <Habbie> I use fluxbox
[04:09] <Master_5> enlightenment dr17 would be nice
[04:09] <swb> greetings fellow ubuntuers
[04:09] <selinium> DShepherd, when installing, at the first prompt type server as mentioned. It will install with no gui
[04:09] <DShepherd> Habbie: Do I get when I type server?
[04:09] <ICE9> can you still use all the apps on fluxbox
[04:09] <Master_5> ice9 it's lighter than kde
[04:09] <DShepherd> Habbie: Do I get X when I type server?
[04:09] <Habbie> DShepherd: no
[04:09] <Master_5> ice9 yes
[04:09] <nadia> usb stick and compact flash should work the same...  sweet, thanks I'll do some reading...
[04:10] <darklightred83> can any1 tell me what is the thread for debian? bec. it is most likely to ubuntu
[04:10] <Habbie> DShepherd: it just installs less -by default-; you can always add what you want after install
[04:10] <guillem101> hmmm, seems to have upgraded smoothly....
[04:10] <ICE9> you got the apt-get link for fluxbox
[04:10] <ari123> hi someone could  hel a newbi  ?
[04:10] <Master_5> ICE9: you can search apt with apt-cache search fluxbox
[04:10] <ICE9> ask away
[04:10] <DShepherd> I was told I need X to run VMWare? is this true
[04:10] <n00blar> hi all, do I have to load anything else to get amarok to play mp3s for me? I was able to install it, but it will not play mp3s
[04:10] <Kumo> hi guys, does anybody know how to detect my internet detection everytime I turn on my computer? I have internet after #dhclient eth0 but is not done by default
[04:10] <darklightred83> can any1 tell me what is the thread for debian? bec. it is most likely to ubuntu
[04:10] <selinium> ari123, always! :)
[04:10] <ICE9> thats right cache seach forgot about
[04:10] <Master_5> DShepherd yes
[04:10] <DShepherd> Master_5: ok
[04:10] <darklightred83> can any1 tell me what is the thread for debian? bec. it is most likely to ubuntu
[04:11] <ari123> selenium
[04:11] <ari123> can i pm ?
[04:11] <swb> n00blar, you may need mpg123?
[04:11] <Master_5> darklightred83: use google
[04:11] <nathan__> darklightred83, you have already asked, behave
[04:11] <shinu> darklightred83: dont repeat your question like that...
[04:11] <DShepherd> So after server installl  how do I get X?
[04:11] <DShepherd> or install it
[04:11] <DShepherd> ?
[04:11] <selinium> ari123, it is best to ask the question 'outload' incase I cant help you! :)
[04:11] <n00blar> swb, I'll try to install it, thanks
[04:11] <nathan__> darklightred83, ii gave you a hint for LinuxThreads, NPTL and POSIX.
[04:11] <ari123> oki
[04:11] <swb> n00blar, I take that back
[04:11] <swb> install xine
[04:11] <swb> and amarok-xine
[04:12] <Master_5> DShepherd somenoe may correct me but i believe it's apt-get install x-window-system
[04:12] <swb> then configure it to use the xine engine in options
[04:12] <ari123> i have a hard drive ntfs formated that i can access it s not mounted
[04:12] <swb> I find that works better than gstreamer
[04:12] <n00blar> swb, oh..ok, will do..thanks
[04:12] <nathan__> ari123, man fstab and/or man mount
[04:12] <Magic07> i installed breezy on my imac and everything went fine...however yaboot root is set to sdb4 while the install was on sdc4...any suggestions
[04:12] <JakobGedionsen> Master_5 Dunno... I have to install the new nVidia drivers, but it keep saying i've haven't got the kernel source... Installed some kernel packs in the packet manager, but still...
[04:12] <selinium> n00blar, have you installed w32codecs? you need it to play mpo3
[04:13] <swb> Master_5, perhaps also/instead xserver-xorg
[04:13] <n00blar> selinium, yes..it's been loaded
[04:13] <selinium> ari123, when you can it will only be in read only, you know that yes?
[04:13] <shinu> Kumo: maybe sudo network-admin may help you? just a guess...
[04:13] <Master_5> JakobGedionsen apt-get install kernel-source
[04:13] <Master_5> JakobGedionsen apt-get install kernel-headers
[04:13] <ari123> this i know
[04:13] <JakobGedionsen> In console?
[04:13] <Master_5> yes
[04:13] <selinium> ari123, ok,
[04:13] <Master_5> it'll give you a list
[04:13] <DShepherd> swb: Master_5: THanks for the info
[04:13] <JakobGedionsen> Kool...
[04:13] <Kumo> shinu: ok, I'll try
[04:13] <darklightred83> sorry for asking to much, i just need proffesional help
[04:14] <n00blar> swb, will the xine package  be called..xine or something else?
[04:14] <ari123> is there an utility to change to ext3 without loosing data N
[04:14] <ari123> ?
[04:14] <shinu> Kumo: how do you connect to the net?
[04:14] <darklightred83> andby giving me pointers, i helps me a lot.
[04:14] <darklightred83> thanks
[04:14] <Master_5> JakobGedionsen if you don't know your present running kernel type uname -r
[04:14] <darklightred83>  and
[04:14] <darklightred83> sorry
[04:14] <swb> selinium, when I try to install those on my gf's box it says it has no installation candidate... do I need any funky sources?
[04:14] <Kumo> shinu: eth0
[04:14] <swb> n00blar, sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[04:14] <shinu> Kumo: yeah, try network-admin, it might help :P
[04:14] <nathan__> darklightred83, what are you asking that you havn't already been told?
[04:15] <selinium> swb the codecs?  http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/
[04:15] <selinium> ari123, I dont think so. NTFS was designed to be secure...
[04:15] <beerockxs> I'm having a problem with the fglrx driver.
[04:16] <swb> thanks selinium
[04:16] <selinium> swb np
[04:16] <ari123> but i think partition magic has an toolls like that no ?
[04:16] <DShepherd> what's the difference between a dummy package and a normal package?
[04:16] <beerockxs> When I log into X, after a few seconds, the display is no longer updated, except for the mouse driver, which still works.
[04:16] <beerockxs> er, mouse cursor
[04:16] <swb> I think a dummy package is just used for clearer naming
[04:16] <nathan__> aeho,
[04:16] <nathan__> oops
[04:17] <swb> it points to another package I think
[04:17] <nathan__> ari123, http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[04:17] <JakobGedionsen> Master_5 uname -r
[04:17] <JakobGedionsen> 2.6.12-9-386, my kernel is not in the apt-get install kernel-source list...
[04:17] <selinium> ari123, You can change the filesystem but it will wipe the drive.
[04:17] <beerockxs> keypresses don't do anything either, ctrl-alt-backspace does not kill X, etc.
[04:17] <ari123> wipe ?
[04:17] <beerockxs> anyone have any idea what might cause that?
[04:17] <swb> ari123, I just did a similar thing but copied all the data off then backon after reformatting...
[04:17] <DShepherd> swb: ok
[04:17] <swb> beerockxs, anything in /var/log/XFree86.0.log?
[04:18] <selinium> ari123, that is the only way I know, what swb said...    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:18] <nathan__> ari123, you cannot change the FS but you can read/write to it
[04:18] <ari123> nathan i m newbie
[04:18] <ari123> plz help me on istalling it
[04:18] <ICE9> for apt-cache its just called fluxbox right
[04:18] <selinium> nathan__, If you try to write to NTFS you will corrupt the data
[04:18] <JakobGedionsen> Master_5 uname -r
[04:18] <nathan__> selinium, not true :)
[04:18] <Kumo> shinu: I can see my connection but I don't know how to set it to detect it by default
[04:18] <JakobGedionsen> 2.6.12-9-386, my kernel is not in the apt-get install kernel-source list...
[04:18] <nuck> im running apache server where do i find the webpage file that it loads when a client connects to it? thanks
[04:18] <selinium> ari123, Seriously, dont try to wirte to ntfs.
[04:18] <beerockxs> swb: the last entries are about a font renderer already being registered
[04:19] <nathan__> selinium, http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[04:19] <JakobGedionsen> Master_5 uname -r 2.6.12-9-386, my kernel is not in the apt-get install kernel-source list...
[04:19] <swb> beerockxs do cat /var/log/XFree86.0.log | grep EE
[04:19] <ari123> oki
[04:19] <ari123> anyway i can t read also
[04:19] <ari123> i can give remote
[04:19] <swb> anyone an xorg with composite guru
[04:19] <ari123> acces who want to help ?
[04:20] <swb> I had it running once, but it was slow becasue I have an ati card
[04:20] <beerockxs> swb: no errors
[04:20] <swb> but now when I enable it the mouse is clear when I start X but everything underenath comes out in like wierd vertical bars
[04:20] <swb> of misrendering
[04:20] <swb> beerockxs, no idea then sorry
[04:20] <selinium> nathen__ there are 'new' systems that may work most of the time. But I would not trust them with my data. NTFS is a proprietory format which has not been released into the public domain. Therefore any coding has been done on a best efforts basis.
[04:21] <shinu> Kumo: how do you start your connection then?
[04:21] <beerockxs> it seems to be a problem with the proprietary ati driver, because the open source one works. but i want the driver from ATI, for my TV out and stuff
[04:21] <nathan__> selinium, 'Captive' is fairy stable as it uses the ntfs.sys driver for windows, it doesnt mount directly
[04:21] <swb> beerockxs, I use fglrx with no problems
[04:21] <swb> beerockxs, have you got composite enabled in your xorg.conf?
[04:22] <swb> becasue that messes mine up
[04:22] <Kumo> shinu: using #dhclient eth0 but I have to do it everytime I turn on Ubuntu
[04:22] <beerockxs> swb: I did not specifically enable it, so I guess no, if it defaults to that.
[04:22] <agx> hello, anyone knows where i can get a grub with the i2o patch already compiled in?
[04:22] <selinium> nathan__, I see that now... But therefore you need to have a WIndows license to run it.... :)
[04:22] <swb> I think it does, you can check, look at the end of /etc/X11/xorg.conf for the extensions section
[04:22] <nathan__> selinium, speak to my lawyer :)
[04:22] <n00blar> swb, awesome...amarok's working nicely...thank you!
[04:22] <selinium> nathan__, rofl!
[04:23] <swb> n00blar, np :)
[04:23] <beerockxs> swb: I don't even have an extensions section :-)
[04:23] <swb> I like amarok
[04:23] <swb> beerockxs, heh probably not then, if you want to double check you could grep the log for composite
[04:23] <swb> also do a grep for WW
[04:23] <ICE9> damn how do you run the seach for apt-cache
[04:23] <swb> might give you some info
[04:23] <swb> apt-cache search
[04:23] <selinium> lol
[04:23] <Toma-> is there a way to swap the dev entry a device gets created on? ive got a tv card and a webcam and wanna swap em
[04:24] <ICE9> I tried nothing happens
[04:24] <shinu> Kumo: cant you put that command into some startup script? not very elegant but i dont know much :P
[04:24] <nathan__> selinium, if you're interested at all you may want to look at http://www.reactos.org
[04:24] <swb> ICE9 you have to put a search term in also
[04:24] <Toma-> lol reactos
[04:24] <swb> like apt-cache search foo
[04:24] <swb> or you could just use synaptic
[04:24] <ICE9> apt-cache search fluxbox
[04:24] <ICE9> nothing happens
[04:24] <selinium> ICE9, apt-cache search <application>  where <application> is the name of what you are looking for
[04:25] <swb> when you say nothing happens..., does the command return without finding anythign or does it just hang
[04:25] <nathan__> Toma-, this started regarding read/write to ntfs partitions, please keep laughter to a minimum :)
[04:25] <Toma-> hehe ok
[04:25] <ICE9> searches then brings me back to the prompt
[04:25] <swb> unlucky
[04:25] <ICE9> thats all
[04:25] <swb> you are probalby missing some apt sources
[04:26] <swb> or havent done apt-get update
[04:26] <DShepherd> what's the size of the default install for uibuntu
[04:26] <selinium> nathan__, Interesting, i will give it a look over. But IMHO i think the architecture behind linux is far superior, so why try to emulate a bad thing?
[04:26] <selinium> DShepherd, under 700mb
[04:26] <beerockxs> swb: I have a warning from fglrx there, "specified desktop not supported: 8"
[04:27] <selinium> DShepherd, fits on a CD
[04:27] <Kumo> shinu: yeah may be by now I can do it, thanks
[04:27] <swb> beerockxs, doesnt mean anything to me I am afraid
[04:27] <ICE9> did the update still nothing
[04:27] <adam_> #ubuntu
[04:27] <adam_> !ubuntu
[04:27] <DShepherd> selinium: sorry I meant after installing...the default ..
[04:27] <nathan__> selinium, s/IMHO/everyones\ opinion/
[04:28] <shinu> Kumo: its weird cause i have inet over eth0 too, but it starts by default, so i guess it might be how you configued it at the installation
[04:28] <selinium> nathan__, lol
[04:28] <ari123> "There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins" ...
[04:28] <ari123> ????
[04:28] <ICE9> maybe it can
[04:28] <adam_> does anyone know of a good webcam chat/community for talking and meeting people?
[04:28] <nuck> where channel can i ask for linux commands?
[04:28] <swb> ICE9 have you done http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[04:28] <ICE9> no
[04:28] <selinium> ari123, what are you trying to play?
[04:28] <ICE9> I'll try
[04:28] <ari123> live radio
[04:28] <nuck> i just want to find which files contain certain string i.e. "thisstringtofind"
[04:29] <ICE9> different commands are killing
[04:29] <selinium> ari123, where from?
[04:29] <ICE9> I'll get it though
[04:29] <nuck> within a certain directory
[04:29] <ICE9> thx for the help
[04:29] <selinium> ari123, pm?
[04:29] <DShepherd> How much space, by defauly does ubuntu take up on your hard disk after install
[04:29] <Master_5> ICE9 it must be int he multiverse repos
[04:29] <ari123> oki pm
[04:29] <__ibz> nuck: find . -type f -exec grep "thisstringtofind" /dev/null {} \;
[04:30] <selinium> ari123, Have you registered you nick?
[04:30] <swb> __ibz, leet
[04:30] <Master_5> deb http://Archive.Ubuntu.Com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted multiverse universe
[04:30] <Master_5> deb http://Archive.Ubuntu.Com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[04:30] <selinium> Master_5, dont paste in here please
[04:30] <adam_> im trying to find a program/community similiar to yahoo or msn messenger that supports a webcam. does anyone know of anything such as this?
[04:30] <ari123> no not yet
[04:30] <ari123> i come back
[04:30] <za> hey guys, i downloaded the .iso file last night, burnt it to a cd, but my computer wouldnt boot from it, did i burn it wrong?
[04:31] <selinium> ari123, np
[04:31] <DShepherd> How much space, by defauly does ubuntu take up on your hard disk after install
[04:31] <nathan__> za, probably :)
[04:31] <Kumo> shinu: yes is weird I it doesn't happen with a previous kernel just with the last one, yesterday a guy from this forum help me with this but it seems that is not here now
[04:31] <swb> adam_, gnomemeeting supports webcam
[04:31] <swb> as does linphone I think
[04:31] <nathan__> za, burn as an image and mak sure you're computer is set to boot from cd ?
[04:31] <swb> but they dont have comuniteis like yahoo
[04:31] <nathan__> your*
[04:31] <linuxgeek2> !fonts
[04:31] <swb> also gaim is a really good multiple platform messenger
[04:31] <adam_> ah, thats what im looking for
[04:31] <ulaas> za, did you burn as image? or just an iso file in the cd ? do you have a windows to check?
[04:31] <selinium> DShepherd, I will ask about. but it isn't huge.. What are you trying to install it on! :)
[04:31] <swb> not sure abotu webcam support
[04:31] <linuxgeek2> !font
[04:31] <za> im must not have burned it as an image
[04:31] <nuck> thanks __ibz it worked
[04:32] <ulaas> za, there ya go
[04:32] <DShepherd> selinium: I know it is small. I just want to know the specs.....a big enough harddrive I am sure
[04:32] <darklightred83> ma i know the memory management of ubuntu?
[04:33] <darklightred83> may i know the memory management of ubuntu?
[04:33] <dv> eh...
[04:33] <swb> darklightred83, the memory managemenet?
[04:33] <dv> you mean the kernel memory management?
[04:34] <swb> if you want current stats do vmstat
[04:34] <swb> on the command line
[04:34] <frogzoo> darklightred83: homework still?
[04:34] <nathan__> DShepherd, clearly a homework question
[04:34] <mahangu> how can i unrar somehting?
[04:34] <mahangu> command line
[04:34] <shinu> Kumo: strange... my net was fine after the upgrade... i guess you can just put the command in a start script temporarily :P and maybe reask your question later on giving more details :P
[04:34] <swb> mahangu, you need the nonfree unrar
[04:34] <DShepherd> nathan__: doing my home work now :)
[04:34] <nathan__> mahangu, apt-get install rar l rar e <file>
[04:35] <Kumo> shinu: ok, thanks anyway
[04:35] <swb> mhangu, http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/utils/unrar-nonfree
[04:35] <DShepherd> selinium: nathan__ http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/releasenotes510#2.0 -- doing homework pays
[04:35] <darklightred83> yez the kernel
[04:35] <mahangu> nathan__, swab, thanks :)
[04:36] <swb> swab?
[04:36] <swb> SWAB?
[04:36] <swb> lol
[04:36] <selinium> DShepherd, You got there before me! must type faster.... :)
[04:36] <ICE9> unimplemented
[04:36] <ICE9> wtf
[04:36] <ICE9> lol
[04:36] <__ibz> nuck: np
[04:37] <nathan__> whoever asked about ubuntu default install size it is around 1.7gb
[04:37] <swb> does anyone know what the future is for usplash....?
[04:37] <selinium> DShepherd, What processor has it got?
[04:37] <swb> as in... its hella-ugly
[04:37] <swb> erk bathtime
[04:37] <Amaranth> swb: I think it's rather nice.
[04:37] <dv> usplash is what?
[04:37] <Amaranth> swb: Not much you can do with 16 colors
[04:37] <selinium> nathan__, DShepherd just posted you the link!
[04:37] <dv> the graphical startup screen?
[04:37] <swb> Amaranth, aye thats the problem I guess
[04:38] <swb> also the brown...
[04:38] <Amaranth> dv: The image and status bar you see when you start your computer
[04:38] <swb> not too appealing
[04:38] <swb> is framebuffer limited to 16 colors?
[04:38] <dv> well 256 colors should be ok
[04:38] <Amaranth> swb: It's better than the one for WinXP and they only get 16 colors too.
[04:38] <DShepherd> selinium: i dontknow it yet
[04:38] <nathan__> selinium, blergh i just did df -h  in my vmware session :)
[04:38] <Amaranth> no, it's 16 colors
[04:38] <swb> Amaranth, I dont think it is :P
[04:38] <selinium> nathan__, :)
[04:38] <dv> detect whether or not VESA is present
[04:38] <swb> anyway.... bath
[04:38] <dv> and load 16 or 256 colors pic
[04:38] <selinium> nathan__, much cleverer than me hunting in google!
[04:38] <Amaranth> dv: They tried.
[04:39] <nathan__> heh
[04:39] <darklightred83> kernel memory management?
[04:39] <Amaranth> dv: Anything above 16 colors needs a lot of extra detection code to load the right modules.
[04:39] <selinium> darklightred83, You can also try #linux for answers
[04:39] <dv> ah, i forgot the kernel framebuffer mess
[04:40] <nathan__> darklightred83, i'm feeling generous so here's a usefull page: http://home.earthlink.net/~jknapka/linux-mm/vmoutline.html
[04:41] <darklightred83> WOW
[04:41] <darklightred83> thank
[04:41] <nathan__> darklightred83, please note that was the 2nd hit in google for 'kernel memory management'
[04:41] <ICE9> ok so why do they comment everything out in sources.list
[04:43] <darklightred83> huh...but thanks alot! im close to finishing this ass.
[04:43] <NotLarry> I am trying to get my wifi to work (using ndiswrapper).  Thinks look like it is working but led on card is not lit and an iwlist wlan0 power shows Current mode: off  How do I change that?
[04:43] <darklightred83> by the way ur from what country?
[04:43] <spiral> hi
[04:43] <nathan__> darklightred83, Scotland
[04:44] <nathan__> NotLarry, you need to put it into mode 'managed'
[04:44] <Orborde> Why does the latest round of updates contain RPM updates? I thought Ubuntu didn't even use RPM....
[04:45] <nathan__> NotLarry, iwconfig wlan0 mode managed
[04:45] <trappist> Orborde: do you have alien installed?
[04:46] <Orborde> trappist: ...no.
[04:46] <Answer> Hey, I destroyed all of my panels by accident.  How do I restore the default panels?
[04:46] <Orborde> trappist: I'm so confused
[04:46] <darklightred83> wow thats to far from here, im from the philippines, maybe sometime you should visit here, the weather here is good, its tropcal.
[04:46] <Orborde> trappist: Though I'm installing it now in case I need it later.
[04:46] <trappist> Orborde: some packages (like alien) deal with rpms and have rpm and/or librpm as dependencies.
[04:46] <Orborde> trappist: Okay
[04:47] <shane543> L o
[04:47] <nathan__> darklightred83, yeah a friend at work used to live there, she said i could stay at hers anytime
[04:47] <NotLarry> nathan__: nope, didn't do it
[04:48] <Answer> Hey, I destroyed all of my panels by accident.  How do I restore the default panels?
[04:48] <bettong_BOFH> any one know of a good mp3 track editor for ubuntu?
[04:48] <nathan__> NotLarry, what does  ndiswrapper -l say?
[04:48] <bettong_BOFH> where i can edit and or mix my tracks?
[04:48] <ispiked> How do my friends access my shared files when I share them via samba?
[04:48] <nathan__> bettong_BOFH, im a BOFH im going to say google
[04:48] <NotLarry> bcmwl5 driver present, hardware present
[04:49] <nathan__> NotLarry, dell laptop by any chance?
[04:49] <NotLarry> I hate when everything looks right but isn't:)
[04:49] <mrdeath> hello all
[04:49] <darklightred83> that good, well you should go here.thanks for your generosity
[04:49] <NotLarry> no, some mb laying on my desk with a motorola pci card I just took out of my kids desktop (so, it was working 10 minutes ago on a wintel box:)
[04:49] <ICE9> hey real quick someone pm the top two lines of sources.list
[04:49] <mrdeath> is there are any RSS readers which can display posts as digest?
[04:49] <ICE9> if you have the 5.10 version
[04:49] <nathan__> NotLarry, im using the same driver as you, working fine ;)
[04:50] <MaCa> Is there a easy way to customize the live CD? Say, remove openoffice and add some static files?
[04:50] <mrdeath> practically all of them works as usual mail client :(
[04:50] <NotLarry> I have set something somewhere wrong I am sure.  Ok, so how do I set it to start up on reboot?
[04:50] <adam_> does anyone use a webcam and chatting software in here?
[04:50] <Answer> Hey, I destroyed all of my panels by accident.  How do I restore the default panels?
[04:51] <Answer> Hey, I destroyed all of my panels by accident.  How do I restore the default panels?
[04:51] <selinium> nathan__, UK ubuntu! :)
[04:51] <Orborde> Why is it that ndiswrapper -l gives me driver present, hardware present, but I still don't have any wlan interfaces?
[04:51] <Koukou> hi
[04:51] <Orborde> Answer: How did this happen?
[04:51] <Answer> Orborde, I right clicked on them and chose Delete This Panel...
[04:51] <nathan__> NotLarry, you'll need to forgive me here, im on debian atm, you should be able to specify it in /etc/network/interfaces with wireless_mode, wireless_essid, wireless_key etc
[04:52] <Orborde> Answer: So why are you complaining if you did it on purpose :) ?
[04:52] <Orborde> Answer: Try going into synaptic.
[04:52] <trappist> one after the other, accidentally?
[04:52] <nathan__> NotLarry, iirc theres a package for reading the interfaces file with wifi support
[04:52] <Orborde> Answer: Try reinstalling gnome-panel.
[04:53] <Orborde> Answer: or apt-get install --reinstall gnome-panel
[04:53] <selinium> ICE9, I sent you a link to the repos ages ago...
[04:53] <Orborde> Answer: Actually, you can just make new panels and repopulate them with the appropriate applets.
[04:54] <Answer> Orborde, /me does not want to repopulate everything in the panels
[04:55] <Answer> Does anybody use a lightweight window manager?  I need to remove all the panels and icons and disable right clicking on the desktop
[04:55] <za> in nero i can just select Image Recorder (cd/rw) cant i, and that should burn my .iso as an image?
[04:55] <Orborde> Answer: What exactly are you doing, anyway?
[04:55] <adam_> does anyone know of or use a webcam and chatting software?
[04:55] <nathan__> za, no :)
[04:55] <Orborde> Answer: First you're rebuilding panels, now you're removing them?
[04:55] <za> hmm i cant find 'burn as image'
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> adam_, gaim and skype
[04:55] <nathan__> za, select burn image, the image recorder will burn to a file instead of an actually cd
[04:55] <Orborde> Answer: Why do you want to disable right-click on the desktop?
[04:55] <nathan__> -y
[04:56] <adam_> skype has video?
[04:56] <adam_> i did not know that
[04:56] <wickedpuppy> eh hmms .. maybe not .. no idea
[04:56] <adam_> oh
[04:56] <Answer> Orborde, we have a thin client that is just a web browser.  when it crashes or if someone hits F11 to exit fullscreen mode, we don't want them to be able to click anything.  and it's a touchscreen so no right clicking on the desktop
[04:56] <wickedpuppy> but there should be  webcam software
[04:56] <nathan__> za, it is probably in the file menu just to confuse you
[04:56] <wickedpuppy> adam_, search in synaptic
[04:56] <mojo> Hello every1, it's happy to see community get bigger everyday ;) GO GO Ubuntu
[04:56] <za> do i need to select the option to create a bootable cd?
[04:56] <Answer> Orborde, I thought the simple solution would be to just delete all the panels with gnome, but then it wouldn't let me delete the last one.
[04:56] <adam_> im looking for some kind of community thing to meet people
[04:56] <adam_> i will do that
[04:56] <Orborde> Answer: That sounds like some script-fuage
[04:56] <selinium> adam_, gnomemeeting skype deosn't have video... as far as I konw
[04:56] <mojo> care to read this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88477?
[04:57] <Orborde> Answer: Uninstall gnome-panel
[04:57] <nathan__> za: shouldn't need to the iso includes the MBR
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> adam_, you are already in community thing to meet people ...
[04:57] <Orborde> Answer: That's the first and shortest answer.
[04:57] <mojo> Tango vs Human http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88477
[04:57] <adam_> true
[04:57] <za> the user interface on nero 6 sucks
[04:57] <Orborde> Answer: DISCLAIMER: You are a little over my head, so I'm not exactly certain about what I'm doing. Take heed.
[04:57] <Answer> Orborde, any idea on the right click?
[04:58] <nathan__> Answer, break the right hand mouse button
[04:58] <Orborde> Answer: I don't see why you need to disable right-click if the touchscreen won't let you do it anyways...
[04:58] <Orborde> Answer: Why do you need to disable right-click?
[04:58] <Answer> Orborde, nathan__, it is a touchscreen monitor
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> nathan__, i would have thought of another answer ... use one button mouse
[04:58] <nathan__> hehe
[04:59] <nathan__> Answer, how does a touch screen monitor have right click then ?!
[04:59] <Orborde> Answer: So they can't right click anyways and figuring out how to disable it is unnecessary, right?
[04:59] <wickedpuppy> right hand touch ... of course
[04:59] <Answer> Orborde, nathan__, there is no mouse attached, but when the web browser crashes and u touch the desktop, the right-click dropdown menu apperas
[04:59] <nathan__> ahhhh ofcourse
[04:59] <Orborde> Answer: If you want to make the desktop unmodifiable, you can chown all the stuff there to root and chmod 555 it.
[05:00] <za> in my nero i select data cd, then i select the .iso, then it only gives me an option to burn, not 'burn as image'
[05:00] <Orborde> Answer: Okay...hmm....
[05:00] <Answer> I just completely removed the gnome-panel, but the last panel is sitll there that lets u switch desktops.  Can i just make it one desktop somehow?
[05:00] <nathan__> za, its there i tell ya!
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> za, are you asking about nero here ?
[05:00] <nathan__> wickedpuppy, he's burning an abuntu cd... ;)
[05:00] <nathan__> ubuntu
[05:00] <za> and nero is just preventing it ;p
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> btw if you select data cd its wrong ... you go to tools and burn as image ... unless my nero knowledge is screwed
[05:01] <nathan__> za, its either in tools or file menu, but its definetly there, clean your lenses :)
[05:01] <za> no just my nero is screwed
[05:01] <Orborde> Answer: Actually, I think that might be built into gnome desktop. I'd bet money that there's some way to disable it, but I don't know how.
[05:01] <nathan__> Answer, yes
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> yes nero doesn't have easy image burning button ... but then i doubt many M$ users know whats an image is
[05:02] <za> yeah this version of nero hides everything
[05:02] <NotLarry> somehow the radio is turned off and I can't figure out how to turn it on:)
[05:02] <Answer> nathan__, how do i set it to one desktop and get rid of that panel?
[05:02] <za> i have yet to even find file, tool menus
[05:02] <wickedpuppy> za, which version of nero are you using ?
[05:02] <Master_5> k3b has an easy "burn image to cd" option
[05:02] <Answer> "Error: You cannot remove your last panel"
[05:03] <Dekkard> me tinks hes trying to burn it from winders.....
[05:03] <za> 6
[05:03] <Answer> ooo I crashed the panel and it disappered!
[05:03] <Orborde> Answer: You removed gnome-panel, right?
[05:03] <za> its got some corny "for 6 year old" UI
[05:03] <Orborde> Answer: Try logging out and in again.
[05:03] <Answer> Orborde, yeah, mabye it just took a minute to crash
[05:03] <wickedpuppy> za, 6 itself has a lot more versions ... ultra ?
[05:03] <wickedpuppy> or unlimited
[05:03] <nathan__> Answer, well the thing you are seeing is the 'workspace switcher' you could remove that.. either that or change the preferences for how many workspaces you have :)
[05:03] <trappist> cdrecord -dev=/dev/hdX -dao -speed=24 filename.iso
[05:03] <Orborde> Answer: The program may still have been in memory
[05:03] <za> it comes with xpress and xpress2
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> ah then its not ultra edition .. hope its not nero express
[05:04] <za> nero express 6
[05:04] <za> which is horrible
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> bingo
[05:04] <Answer> Anybody know the package for opera6 ?
[05:05] <digitalc> i downloaded the ubuntu image to my xp system and burned it with nero
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> yes ... way horrible .. you got menus on the right top side ... right ?
[05:05] <Orborde> Answer: I'm curious; what exactly are you doing?
[05:05] <mojo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88477
[05:05] <za> lol express 6 doesnt even have menus
[05:05] <digitalc> but it wont work
[05:05] <Orborde> Answer: Why opera6? They're up to 8 now....
[05:05] <Magic07> i installed breezy on my imac and everything went fine...however yaboot root is set to sdb4 while the install was on sdc4...any suggestions
[05:05] <digitalc> now nothing happens
[05:05] <Answer> Orborde, fine opera8 whatever
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> za, really ... no comments
[05:05] <za> well it lets me select how i want to burn it: such as data, music, dvd
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> thats not express
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> thats crippled
[05:06] <Orborde> Answer: I don't think there is an Opera 8 repo package, as Opera is not GPL.
[05:06] <Answer> Orborde, we have a touchscreen and all we want on it is our webpage in a webbrowser.  but sometimes the webbrowser (opera) crashes.  when that happens we dont want people to be able to 'click' on anything in the bg
[05:06] <Orborde> Answer: Until recently, it was commercial
[05:06] <Dekkard> Magic07 how old an ibook..does it have airport extreme card?
[05:06] <za> what would you recommend me getting wicked?
[05:06] <Magic07> G5 imac
[05:06] <digitalc> i di burn an image
[05:07] <Dekkard> oops
[05:07] <Dekkard> sorry
[05:07] <nathan__> za, http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[05:07] <za> thanks nathan
[05:07] <Orborde> Answer: You could probably put together a script to automatically reboot the browser. Sadly, I am not amazing enough to do it myself./
[05:07] <antisocial_boris> can anyone link me to the dc++ page that tells me how to compile it?
[05:07] <nathan__> za, and you are sure there is no 'burn image' option in the FILE menu ?
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> antisocial_boris, dc++ ?
[05:08] <ben_> does alexfeinman's iso recorder support sp2 now?
[05:08] <digitalc> i am looking at the isorecorder now
[05:08] <digitalc> thanks
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> digitalc, k3b
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> wait ... iso recorder
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> record iso ? same as burn iso ?
[05:09] <digitalc> well i burned the ubuntu image to a cd using nero express 6
[05:09] <digitalc> but when i insert it nothing happens
[05:09] <trappist> real men use cdrecord
[05:09] <digitalc> where do i get cdrecord
[05:10] <trappist> you almost certainly already have it
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> digitalc, nero express 6 ?
[05:10] <nathan__> you'll have issues running cdrecord under windows
[05:10] <nathan__> :P
[05:10] <Orborde> digitalc: Look up iso recorder...
[05:10] <trappist> oh windows
[05:10] <Orborde> digitalc: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[05:10] <nathan__> wonder if it runs under cygwin :p
[05:10] <za> nero is horrible
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> this channel is turning into nero support centre
[05:11] <wickedpuppy> lol
[05:11] <nathan__> someone wish to change the topic lol
[05:11] <trappist> nathan__: it does
[05:11] <Dekkard> i burned my first linux cd wif nero... did they have a 5..?
[05:11] <Ophiocus> if that helps getting a ubuntu distro installed, why not
[05:11] <digitalc> so u can see me better
[05:11] <trappist> http://smithii.com/files/cdrtools-latest.zip
[05:11] <Orborde> wickedpuppy: Well, it's a signal that soon we will have a lot of Ubuntu help requests.
[05:12] <digitalc> yes nero express 6
[05:12] <nathan__> any linux based q's?
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> Ophiocus, true but nero is commercial software ... support gpl soft thats not related to ubuntu is one thing .. supporting a crappy software that runs on M$ is another
[05:12] <Orborde> wickedpuppy: Like babies or something
[05:12] <Orborde> wickedpuppy: It means that people are trying Ubuntu
[05:12] <digitalc> well i was looking up ubuntu website and they told me to come here
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> Orborde, well .. if i were you you would write a book about installing and configurating ubuntu linux
[05:13] <digitalc> well how am i supposed to get started with linux
[05:13] <Ophiocus> point taken, but i dont see how theyll get help from redmond to "how can i stop using your product?"
[05:13] <Orborde> digitalc: Was that a question?
[05:13] <digitalc> when not with ubuntu
[05:13] <nathan__> digitalc, you can order an ubuntu cd if you get stuck
[05:13] <digitalc> i want to use it as a server
[05:13] <Orborde> digitalc: Did you download ISO Recorder?
[05:14] <digitalc> be good
[05:14] <digitalc> i did use cdrecord
[05:14] <trappist> is general mplayer suckage on ubuntu a commonly acknowledged and possibly documented and/or fixed issue?
[05:14] <digitalc> also to make a second cd
[05:14] <Ophiocus> digitalc,  make sure you are actually using an iso as a burn project, and not simply drag dropping the iso in the burner program
[05:14] <Orborde> trappist: Ubuntu + Multimedia = not so hot ATM :(
[05:14] <Kumo> shinu: hi, I fixed my problem, I checked this page: http://svaksha.com/how2extdev.html and with a lot of luck I edited succesfully the /etc/network/interfaces file just adding eth0 to the auto lo line, like this: auto lo eth0, may be this is useful for you
[05:15] <trappist> I wonder why that would be
[05:15] <digitalc> thanks ophiocus
[05:15] <Orborde> digitalc: Yeah. There is a difference between burning the file onto the CD and creating a CD from the image file.
[05:15] <digitalc> well no i openend nero and selected
[05:15] <adam_> ok, so I want to add skypes repository to sources.list, but in terminal when i type: sudo sources.list - it says that command is not found
[05:15] <trappist> the mplayer issue looks to be alsa-related
[05:15] <digitalc> burn image to a cd
[05:15] <Ophiocus> see ? platform independent advice :P
[05:15] <adam_> what am i doing wrong?
[05:15] <wickedpuppy> adam_, sudo nano sources.list
[05:15] <trappist> adam_: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:15] <nathan__> adam_, that be `coz its a text file :)
[05:16] <wickedpuppy> adam_, sudo is not a text editor
[05:16] <trappist> or your favorite text editor
[05:16] <adam_> oh
[05:16] <adam_> and nano is i take it?
[05:16] <ICE9> selenium, you got pm
[05:16] <nathan__> yes
[05:16] <trappist> sudo wine winword.exe /etc/apt/sources.list etc.
[05:16] <adam_> i see
[05:16] <adam_> ty
[05:16] <mjr> trappist, sounds like a Good Idea :] 
[05:16] <Ophiocus> digitalc, another thing, make sure your bios look for cd to boot from before hard drive
[05:16] <trappist> one of my best :)
[05:16] <nathan__> vi / nano / mcedit ? :)
[05:16] <digitalc> where do i look for platform independent advice
[05:17] <wickedpuppy> what happened to emacs ?
[05:17] <nathan__> emacs too !
[05:17] <trappist> kate, gedit, gvim...
[05:17] <wickedpuppy> digitalc, your software vendor hotline i suppose ...
[05:17] <trappist> emacs is a nice operating system, but I prefer linux
[05:17] <Ophiocus> digitalc,  platform independent advice was a bad joke, forget about that
[05:17] <Answer> Orborde, we actually have a script to automatically restart the browser.  but there is about a 3-5second delay where they could potentially click on things
[05:17] <nathan__> trappist, lol
[05:17] <Answer> Orborde, removing gnome-panel seems to work tho
[05:17] <digitalc> i just think that there is an error
[05:17] <adam_> what command would i use to edit the file in ubuntus text editor?
[05:17] <digitalc> i know about booting
[05:17] <nathan__> adam_, could try gedit
[05:18] <Ophiocus> digitalc what happens when you insert the cd?
[05:18] <Orborde> adam_: Or pico
[05:18] <wickedpuppy> adam_, i don't get your question .. you mean gui editor ?
[05:18] <trappist> adam_: whichever text editor you like.  there is no ubuntu text editor.  you have dozens of them at your disposal.
[05:18] <adam_> yeah gui
[05:18] <deFrysk> sudo gedit /path/to/file
[05:18] <nathan__> am i talking to myself here
[05:18] <digitalc> well i can read the directory and winace opens to
[05:18] <digitalc> extract the files
[05:18] <adam_> nathan__ thanks
[05:18] <nathan__> :D
[05:18] <Orborde> nathan__: Yes. yes you are
[05:19] <trappist> digitalc: you don't want to extract the files
[05:19] <nathan__> great
[05:19] <digitalc> exactly
[05:19] <digitalc> u see i want to use it on a second compi
[05:20] <mojo> http://jimmac.musichall.cz/screenshots/screenshot-456754000.jpg
[05:20] <digitalc> let me try again
[05:20] <mojo> http://jimmac.musichall.cz/screenshots/screenshot-456754000.jpg
[05:20] <mojo> http://jimmac.musichall.cz/screenshots/screenshot-456754000.jpg
[05:20] <Amaranth> mojo: Cut it out.
[05:20] <adam_> ok, one more question i think. Do i add the skype repo to the sources.list in the /root folder, or the one in /etc/apt ?
[05:20] <Habbie> adam_: /etc/apt
[05:20] <nathan__> adam_, /etc/apt :)
[05:20] <wickedpuppy> adam_, there is only one sources.list
[05:21] <wickedpuppy> how come you got two ?
[05:21] <nathan__> if you have one in root you must have copied it
[05:21] <adam_> for some reason theres on in my /root too
[05:21] <Amaranth> unless you created the one in /root
[05:21] <adam_> i must have for some reason
[05:21] <trappist> adam_: delete it to avoid confusion later, unless it's there as a backup
[05:21] <bastardkestrel> uh hello. is this thing on?
[05:21] <adam_> ok
[05:21] <wickedpuppy> adam_, apt-get reads sources.list only from /etc/apt/ dir .. so all changes must be made there ...
[05:21] <adam_> i see
[05:22] <bastardkestrel> !nvidia
[05:22] <swb> what is dapper?
[05:22] <nathan__> bastardkestrel, your name implies your parents we're married when you were born
[05:22] <trappist> bastardkestrel: do you have a question?
[05:23] <nathan__> oope
[05:23] <nathan__> my typing is shocking today
[05:23] <swb> anyone?
[05:23] <swb> nathan__, welcome to the club
[05:23] <Amaranth> swb: dapper is shorthand for "Dapper Drake", the code name for Ubuntu 6.04
[05:23] <swb> cool!
[05:23] <x86i> I have sort of a weird problem. I cannot run anything that requires root in gnome. For more info , please see this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75722
[05:23] <swb> there was me thinking I was all up to date on breezy
[05:24] <Amaranth> swb: dapper just opened a couple days ago :P
[05:24] <Mabus06> can anyone reccomend me a decent game for Ubuntu?
[05:24] <Amaranth> swb: but it's the development version. You're more or less on your own for things breaking.
[05:24] <jah_raztah> are there any changes from breezy in, what is currently there in the drapper repositories?
[05:24] <swb> Amaranth, do you use it?
[05:25] <Amaranth> swb: yeah, but i also write programs and make packages, so i know my way around
[05:25] <slibs> hi guys
[05:25] <trappist> Amaranth: does mplayer perform any better in dapper?
[05:25] <swb> heh I have made packages, but only using dpkg-buildpackage or whatever
[05:25] <Amaranth> swb: you should only use it if you can accept the fact that X or GNOME or etc might not work for say 3 days and you're stuck with a command line
[05:25] <slibs> can you tell how to install cpkg files?
[05:25] <swb> also I have written programmes, none in C or on apt tho
[05:25] <Amaranth> trappist: I don't use mplayer
[05:25] <swb> Amaranth, aye, I am fully au fait with the command line
[05:26] <Orborde> Answer: Awesome. Have fun. Is this at a company or something?
[05:26] <swb> bitchx, lynx, barely notice the difference
[05:26] <jah_raztah> are there any changes from breezy in what is currently there in the drapper repositories?
[05:26] <Amaranth> swb: Then you'd probably be just fine. :)
[05:26] <Amaranth> jah_raztah: Probably, but nothing major.
[05:26] <swb> trappist, you shou;d really compile your own mplayer
[05:26] <x86i> anyone?
[05:26] <swb> when you do its so awesome
[05:26] <swb> its better than all the other player imho
[05:26] <swb> it starts so quickly
[05:26] <Amaranth> swb: vlc > *
[05:26] <swb> you just double click a file and BAM its playing
[05:26] <swb> and then BAN fullscreen
[05:27] <Amaranth> x86i: looking
[05:27] <swb> Amaranth, yeah lots of my friends hae moved from mplayer to vlc
[05:27] <Ophiocus> jah_raztah, repeating a question dosent make it more important or people more willing to answer, if you dont get an answer try saying the same question in a diferent more specific way
[05:27] <Dekkard> hmmmm
[05:27] <x86i> Amaranth: Thank you
[05:27] <swb> I dont like the ui
[05:27] <Dekkard> so i should uninstall mplayer and compile my own?
[05:27] <Amaranth> slibs: what cpkg? what did you get it?
[05:27] <jah_raztah> Ophiocus: what was more specific then i said
[05:27] <slibs> http://cocoa.dima.unige.it/download/packages/
[05:27] <slibs> like these things
[05:27] <jah_raztah> i just wanted to since the repos opened anything new or interesting in drapper
[05:27] <swb> Amaranth, is there a wiki page about dapper?
[05:27] <slibs> but i don't understand how to install them
[05:28] <swb> listing the upgrades and new versions etc...
[05:28] <bastardkestrel> nathan_: hi! there seems to be some major differences between Kubuntu and Ubuntu installs
[05:28] <jah_raztah> i'm not planning on using drapper anytime soon
[05:28] <Amaranth> swb: well, it'll have X.org 7, GNOME 2.14, etc but none of those are out yet
[05:28] <Ophiocus> jah_raztah, you can allways check the backports
[05:28] <swb> Dekkard, not saying you should, its just what I do and it runs like a dream
[05:28] <jah_raztah> maybe wait 2 weeks afer it's released
[05:28] <Amaranth> swb: right now it doesn't have much of anything breezy doesn't except for some autosyncs from sid
[05:28] <x86i> Amaranth: I was thinking about just un-installing the ubuntu-desktop package, but I don't think it will help.
[05:28] <Chris_in_the_uk> Hate to ask a stupid question but... i want to install ubuntu on a pc with a scsi CD drive, can anyone give me a walkthru?
[05:28] <jah_raztah> ohh there is a backports for breezy now?>
[05:28] <frogzoo> Ophiocus: jah_raztah: there are no breezy backports
[05:28] <swb> Amaranth, cheers, I'll wait abit then
[05:29] <swb> are they any plans to package up the new firefox?
[05:29] <jah_raztah> ahh that sucks... maybe in 2-3 weeks there will be a backport
[05:29] <robzon> hi
[05:29] <Amaranth> x86i: I'm pretty sure that's a known problem that was supposed to be fixed in breezy-updates.
[05:29] <digitalc> thanks for ur help
[05:29] <Amaranth> There are breezy-backports
[05:29] <bastardkestrel> trappist: I cant understand why the wireless setup should be so different
[05:29] <Amaranth> As of yesterday
[05:29] <robzon> is it possible to install Ubuntu from network?
[05:29] <digitalc> gonna try again
[05:29] <digitalc> see ya
[05:29] <frogzoo> Amaranth: since when? and where?
[05:29] <frogzoo> woot!
[05:29] <robzon> or from hard disk, just not to use cd-rom
[05:29] <bastardkestrel> trappist: between kubuntu ubuntu that is
[05:30] <Amaranth> frogzoo: same place hoary ones were
[05:30] <x86i> Amaranth: Should I try apt-get update , upgrade?
[05:30] <Amaranth> x86i: yeah
[05:30] <swb> I dont have the sources for breezybackports ither
[05:30] <frogzoo> Amaranth: can we arrange a linkie in the banner ^^
[05:30] <Amaranth> x86i: make sure breezy-updates is uncommented sources.list
[05:30] <Amaranth> frogzoo: nah, people will find it
[05:30] <jason^> is there a way to change my locale to en_US instead of en_US-utf8?
[05:30] <jah_raztah> Amaranth how do i add the breezy backports to my repos... like what is url i add to my sources.list
[05:30] <x86i> Amaranth: Will do. Going to try that now, will report my findings
[05:31] <Amaranth> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[05:31] <swb> it would be cool if there was a more standardised easier to use way of maintaining sources.list
[05:31] <Amaranth> swb: synaptic
[05:31] <bastardkestrel> nathan_: it seems kde is screwed up, so im forced to use gnome
[05:31] <swb> Amaranth, yeah... but its not that great, I was thinking something that abstracted you furtherwaya from the actual source lines
[05:31] <swb> like check this box for these elements...
[05:31] <trappist> bastardkestrel: I just use kwifimanager
[05:31] <Amaranth> swb: it does have that
[05:32] <Amaranth> swb: for things that come in the sources.list commented out or active
[05:32] <Amaranth> swb: what more do you want?
[05:32] <zion115> any1 run steam on ubuntu?
[05:32] <bastardkestrel> trappist: kubuntu detected both my devices correctly, but something broke thier connections
[05:32] <martix> Hi there
[05:32] <zion115> lo
[05:33] <bastardkestrel> trappist: I used kwifi also and ifconfig etc
[05:33] <martix> I need some help on my freshly ubuntu
[05:33] <martix> actually Im looking for some answers
[05:33] <Dekkard> speak
[05:33] <bastardkestrel> trappist: also with this Linksys card on a desktop . same thing happened
[05:33] <martix> 1.- Do you know where to download codecs for totem to play MPEG files?
[05:33] <zion115> :)
[05:34] <swb> Amaranth, yeah actually its cooler then I remember
[05:34] <Chris_in_the_uk> can anyone help with a non-cd install of ubuntu?
[05:34] <trappist> !tell martix about w32codecs
[05:34] <trappist> where is the bot
[05:34] <bastardkestrel> trappist: with the notebook its a problem with acpi.
[05:34] <Amaranth> trappist: pm the bot, it isn't in the channel
[05:34] <Dekkard> !tell dekkard about w32 codecs
[05:34] <bastardkestrel> with the desktop, who knows?
[05:34] <swb> still something on the gnome menu "choose ubuntu version" where you select from breezy, hoary etc...
[05:34] <bastardkestrel> i just have to install ubuntu first always
[05:34] <swb> would be pretty nice
[05:34] <jah_raztah> Amaranth i added the repo you told me about and i recived and error stating the following signatures were invalid: balh balh
[05:34] <frogzoo> !tell trappist about ubotu
[05:34] <Amaranth> bastardkestrel: acpi is more than power management
[05:34] <Dekkard> amtrix..
[05:34] <Dekkard> or matrix
[05:34] <Amaranth> frogzoo: PM the bot, it isn't in the channel
[05:34] <frogzoo> trappist - you need to register/identify
[05:35] <zion115> does any1 use steam on linux and if you do how did you get it to run??
[05:35] <Dekkard> have you looked into synaptic under totem?
[05:35] <frogzoo> Amaranth: ah, k, thx
[05:35] <bastardkestrel> Amaranth: I know that with pcmcia the vaio would not boot also
[05:35] <trappist> frogzoo: I am with freenode.  I need to get friendly with the bot too?
[05:35] <Amaranth> trappist: No, you just need to PM the bot.
[05:35] <Amaranth> I kicked it out of the channel.
[05:35] <trappist> that'll learn it
[05:36] <frogzoo> trappist - just send a pm to "ubotu"
[05:36] <martix> Dekkard:
[05:36] <kahuna_> Hi. Is there any known issue with hotplug not paying attention to the blacklist?
[05:36] <trappist> yeah I did
[05:36] <bastardkestrel> Amaranth: im just very curious, how on kubuntu wireless did not work
[05:36] <storkur> So, what program should I use to play DVD on ubuntu?
[05:36] <Dekkard> matrix?
[05:36] <martix> What shuld I look in synaptic?
[05:36] <bastardkestrel> Amaranth: every time on 2 different computers now
[05:36] <jah_raztah> Amaranth so i have to wait ten minutes and try again
[05:36] <Amaranth> bastardkestrel: KDE sends the wrong commands?
[05:36] <trappist> storkur: xine is nice
[05:36] <bastardkestrel> Amaranth: yes
[05:36] <Amaranth> jah_raztah: more or less, yeah
[05:36] <Amaranth> bastardkestrel: I was giving you an answer.
[05:36] <kahuna_> I put e100 in my /etc/hotplug/blacklist and the module still loads
[05:36] <bastardkestrel> Amaranth: oh
[05:36] <Amaranth> bastardkestrel: Solution: Don't use KDE.
[05:37] <bastardkestrel> Amaranth: i was earlier saying it was kde
[05:37] <highvoltage> hi. to which keyserver should i upload my gpg key for launchpad?
[05:37] <Dekkard> because if you have the repositories enabled ... there are only like 17000 packages to choose from..
[05:37] <kahuna_> I just upgraded to breezy. The module did not load with hoary
[05:37] <bastardkestrel> Amaranth: thanks
[05:37] <bastardkestrel> Amaranth:  I dont like gnome either
[05:37] <trappist> bastardkestrel: I use kde and wifi works great here.
[05:37] <martix> so how should I search in synaptic for this codec?
[05:37] <storkur> trappist, okey, thanks
[05:37] <bastardkestrel> trappist: whats the notebook? do you run ubuntu?
[05:37] <Amaranth> If you use KDE and need help the best place is #kubuntu
[05:38] <jah_raztah> Amaranth thanks for the help
[05:38] <trappist> bastardkestrel: inspiron 600m and yes
[05:38] <jah_raztah> i'm out
[05:38] <jah_raztah> bye
[05:38] <bastardkestrel> Amaranth:  i know, but my question is about ubuntu?
[05:38] <Dekkard> if you have totem gstreamere installed it should play mpeg video
[05:38] <Dekkard> or gstreamer
[05:38] <x86i> Amaranth: Sweet, it seems to be updating gksu, which was causing the problem to begin with.
[05:38] <bastardkestrel> trappist: thats why it works
[05:38] <Dekkard> on day i will learn how to type
[05:38] <swb> Dekkard, I'ld recomend totem-xine
[05:38] <Amaranth> bastardkestrel: Well, not if it worked with GNOME and you're messing with a DE-specific control applet
[05:38] <swb> less buggy I find
[05:38] <martix> hmm I see I have installed gstreamer0.8-misc
[05:38] <Chris_in_the_uk> can anyone tell me where to get general install help with ubuntu?
[05:38] <Dekkard> swb..
[05:39] <Dekkard>  i tried em both
[05:39] <martix> libmpcdec3
[05:39] <Dekkard> its six of one ..a dozen of the other
[05:39] <bastardkestrel> Amaranth: im going to avoid the kde wireless packages
[05:39] <martix> libsmpeg0c2
[05:39] <swb> Dekkard, what are you trying to do?
[05:39] <Dekkard> me.. nuffin.. matrix needs some help
[05:39] <bastardkestrel> trappist: for me I have to install Ubuntu first
[05:39] <Dekkard> i can play most multi media files..
[05:40] <martix> its quite odd
[05:40] <trappist> bastardkestrel: that's what I do.  then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:40] <bastardkestrel> trappist: so i should go file a bug i suppose
[05:40] <trappist> sounds like a plan
[05:40] <martix> hey Dekkard so do you have an idea where to go?
[05:40] <trappist> or see if the #kubuntu folks know what's up
[05:40] <bastardkestrel> trappist: me too, but im not going to use all of it
[05:40] <Dekkard> for plugins??
[05:41] <Mabus06> is there a windows-like search function for ubuntu?
[05:41] <Dekkard>  well. its easy to findem for mplayer
[05:41] <Dekkard>  i have no prollems mostly wif totem.. because i use eiother mplayer or vlc...
[05:41] <trappist> Mabus06: 'find' on the command line is insanely powerful
[05:41] <trappist> also see 'locate'
[05:41] <bastardkestrel> Amaranth: i have a stupid question?
[05:41] <Amaranth> ?
[05:42] <bastardkestrel> Amaranth: does the ubuntu or kubuntu iso, is it ans the install alwys same?
[05:42] <Dekkard> Current song: 1. Foo Fighters - Times Like These
[05:42] <Amaranth> afaik the only difference is at the DE and app level
[05:42] <bastardkestrel> Amaranth: is there a newer installer ever?
[05:42] <Amaranth> bastardkestrel: nope, not until dapper
[05:42] <Dekkard> gadda go
[05:43] <martix> hey Dekkard
[05:43] <bastardkestrel> Amaranth: there are no files downloaded ever ?
[05:43] <Dekkard> hey..
[05:43] <Amaranth> bastardkestrel: sometimes, but not a kernel (which is where your drivers are) unless it's to fix a security bug
[05:43] <Dekkard> matrix what is the trouble exactly you are having?
[05:43] <martix> "There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins"
[05:43] <martix> thats the error messahe
[05:44] <martix> message
[05:44] <Dekkard> cant play wmv9.. or sompin?
[05:44] <martix> I cant play a file *.mpg
[05:44] <Seveas> !tell martix about restricted
[05:44] <bastardkestrel> Amaranth: the vaio fs660w with nvidia is very toughy, buggy bios
[05:44] <Seveas> !tell Dekkard  about restricted
[05:44] <Seveas> ah, ubotu is gone
[05:44] <Amaranth> Seveas: pm it
[05:44] <Seveas> Dekkard, martix: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:44] <Dekkard> Seveas dekkard has no prollems wif repos.. its matrix..
[05:44] <Amaranth> Seveas: if it won't talk to us in the channel we won't talk to it in the channel
[05:45] <Dekkard> matrix.. open synaptic ..and add repositories
[05:45] <Seveas> Amaranth, when was that changed?
[05:45] <Dekkard> than look for the plugins
[05:45] <Amaranth> Seveas: When I /remove'd it a couple hours ago.
[05:45] <Seveas> why?!?
[05:45] <Dekkard> you need to prolly ad restriced.. universe,, and multiverse..
[05:45] <kahuna_> does /etc/hotplug/blacklist work for you guys? it seems borked after my hoary->breezy upgrade
[05:45] <Dekkard> galzxy... panoply of god.. and nonfree
[05:46] <Amaranth> Seveas: The SNR in this channel is bad enough without everyone saying '!tell foo about bar' and trying to tell the channel something just to have ubotu yell at you like you're doing something wrong.
[05:46] <frmarkus> hi all
[05:46] <Ophiocus> is there a way to keep track of the codecs already installed?
[05:46] <storkur> trappist, a little help please? :)
[05:46] <Seveas> Amaranth, still I think it's a bad decision to remove it
[05:46] <Ophiocus> for example, xmms can play a given file type but totem fails to
[05:46] <Amaranth> Seveas: It'll force someone to fix it.
[05:47] <frmarkus> i followed the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPPC to install java on my titanium powerbook
[05:47] <Seveas> you could at least have discussed it...
[05:47] <Seveas> Ophiocus, xmms has mp3 builtin
[05:47] <Seveas> so no codec needed
[05:47] <frmarkus> but there where no links created in /usr/bin to /etc/alternatives
[05:47] <Ophiocus> ah
[05:47] <frmarkus> can anybody help me?
[05:47] <ICE9> hey someone paste the sources.list in pm for me mine is really screwed up
[05:48] <Seveas> ICE, paste.ubuntulinux/nl/2325
[05:48] <Seveas> ICE, paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[05:48] <ICE9> is that a link
[05:48] <Seveas> yes
[05:48] <ICE9> http
[05:48] <Seveas> visit it for a standard breezy sources.list
[05:48] <martix> ok question number 2
[05:49] <x86i> Amaranth: Hrm, well. It updated a bunch of stuff, and i have rebooted but still no luck
[05:49] <martix> 2.- Is there a way to import Lookout PST files to Mozilla Thunderbird or evolution?
[05:49] <ICE9> doesn't work
[05:49] <ICE9> is it http or no
[05:49] <x86i> Amaranth: Should I try to uninstall ubuntu-desktop and install it again?
[05:50] <Amaranth> x86i: No, that won't do anything.
[05:50] <Amaranth> x86i: I'm out of ideas.
[05:50] <Seveas> ICE9, yes
[05:50] <ICE9> not working
[05:50] <storkur> anyone that can help me with xine?
[05:50] <ICE9> is it ubuntu.linux
[05:50] <ICE9> maybe
[05:50] <Seveas> ICE, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 works...
[05:52] <martix> hey guys
[05:52] <martix> any idea to import PST files to mozilla?
[05:53] <vicks> has anyone here gotten the d-link dwl-g122 (wifi with rt2500) to work?
[05:54] <vicks> (in breezy)
[05:54] <akurashy> is there a way to fix the GPG error:
[05:54] <Chris_in_the_uk> Can anyone help me install ubuntu from harddrive?
[05:54] <Seveas> Chris_in_the_uk, what do you mean with 'install from harddrive'?
[05:55] <brosioz>  which software could i use to burn mdf/mds image  ?
[05:55] <x86i> Amaranth: Im just gonna re-install using the 'server expert' option and build up from there to see whats wrong.
[05:55] <Seveas> brosioz, windows
[05:55] <Amaranth> x86i: That won't help.
[05:55] <Seveas> and the weird program that created the image
[05:55] <Amaranth> x86i: It's the same packages.
[05:55] <action09> is it the 'official' way to install nvidia proprietary drivers for Ubuntu please ? --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[05:55] <Amaranth> x86i: You just want to install it all on your own that way.
[05:55] <frmarkus> can anyone help me with some problems with update-alternatives
[05:56] <Seveas> action09, yes
[05:56] <action09> ok thanks :)
[05:56] <speedboy> I found an interesting stuff on forum, i think people here should have a look http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88477
[05:56] <akurashy> after compiling bzflag 2.0.4 I don't know what the bash command is. =/
[05:56] <frmarkus> i do sudo update-alternatives --install java1.5 java /opt/ibm-java2-ppc-50/bin/java 1
[05:56] <frmarkus> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:56] <x86i> Amaranth: So something is wrong with the packages? I was under the impression something went awry in the installion
[05:56] <Amaranth> x86i: No, pretty sure it's the packages. Are you on PowerPC?
[05:57] <Chris_in_the_uk> Seveas: i have a pc with a scsi CD drive which i can't boot off, so i've copied the ISO to a hard drive to put in the machine to boot off.  However, i imagine i need a boot disk or something to get to the ISO
[05:57] <frmarkus> but there are no links anywhere which point to /etc/alternatives
[05:57] <Magic07> G5 imac
[05:57] <Seveas> Chris_in_the_uk, on what kind of system is the ISO?
[05:57] <Magic07> i installed breezy on my imac and everything went fine...however yaboot root is set to sdb4 while the install was on sdc4...any suggestions
[05:57] <JakobGedionsen> Master_5 uname -r 2.6.12-9-386, my kernel is not in the apt-get install kernel-source list...
[05:58] <JakobGedionsen> Master_5 Dunno... I have to install the new nVidia drivers, but it keep saying i've haven't got the kernel source... Installed some kernel packs in the packet manager, but still...
[05:58] <JakobGedionsen> how do i install the  kernel source pakage in ubuntu
[05:58] <raghu> JakobGedionsen, it is simple apt-get
[05:58] <x86i> Amaranth: No, x86 intel latop
[05:58] <Seveas> JakobGedionsen, sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[05:58] <Amaranth> x86i: Then I'm really lost....
[05:59] <Chris_in_the_uk> Seveas: Do you mean file system? NTFS
[05:59] <Seveas> Chris_in_the_uk, no i mean operating system
[05:59] <Seveas> assuming it is windows (given that it's ntfs) then the answer is that it's impossible
[05:59] <Chris_in_the_uk> awesome
[05:59] <Chris_in_the_uk> ok
[06:00] <Chris_in_the_uk> seveas: how do i boot from a scsi drive?
[06:00] <Seveas> Chris_in_the_uk, specify in the bios to boot from scsi...
[06:00] <JakobGedionsen> Thanks :-D
[06:01] <Sam3773> Hey all :)
[06:01] <traxas> hi, maybe anybody tried to run modo (3d app) in Ubuntu?
[06:02] <JakobGedionsen> Seveas But it says i already have it... And nVidia says i don't :-|
[06:02] <Seveas> JakobGedionsen, for that you don't need the source but the headers.
[06:02] <Sam3773> Urm, let's just say Sammy is a Smee' and forgot his Ubuntu logon, any root or default passwords to get in?
[06:02] <x86i> Amaranth: I think a found a temporary work around. Gonna re-install just using some of the packages for the desktop from the cd, and the rest online.
[06:03] <speedboy> maybe, artwork developer for Dapper should look at this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88477
[06:03] <Seveas> Sam3773, reboot into recovery mode
[06:03] <yancheng> hw i can extract rar file type?
[06:03] <raghu> Sam3773, single user mode
[06:03] <Seveas> speedboy, #ubuntu-art
[06:03] <raghu> yancheng, apt-cache searc rar
[06:03] <Sam3773> Cheeers
[06:03] <Chris_in_the_uk> Seveas: I don't have an option to boot from scsi device, i only have floppy, hard disk, Cd or network, do i have to instal an IDE Cd drive?
[06:04] <JakobGedionsen> Seveas K... And how do i do that :-)
[06:04] <Seveas> Chris_in_the_uk, that or network install
[06:04] <Chris_in_the_uk> how do i do a network install?
[06:04] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[06:04] <Chris_in_the_uk> thankyou
[06:04] <Chris_in_the_uk> :)
[06:05] <x86i> Chris_in_the_uk: you need either the mini.iso, or manually configure the IP in the installer, and remove the cd when doing the base install
[06:05] <hadiz> Hi all, how can I setup a printer via TCP/IP? the local address of the printer is 192.168.1.200 and ubuntu has the driver for this particular printer listed.
[06:05] <Carter|Laptop> wiki.ubuntu.com isn't loading for me and I need to know how to upgrade to breezy
[06:05] <x86i> It doesnt seem to work if you use DHCP
[06:05] <Mstrshade> Morning all
[06:05] <Mstrshade> Wassup!
[06:06] <Carter|Laptop> anyone know?
[06:06] <raghu> Carter|Laptop, you?
[06:06] <Mstrshade> Q for anyone
[06:06] <Carter|Laptop> raghu, what?
[06:06] <Madpilot> Carter|Laptop: wiki.u.c works here - maybe try again?
[06:06] <x86i> hadiz: You need to install samba to access the printer share.
[06:07] <Mstrshade> have a dual botted box xp/ubuntu ..the xp partition has 14 gb .. I was to take another gb from that ..what tool do I use?
[06:07] <JakobGedionsen> Seveas K... And how do i do that? :-)
[06:07] <Carter|Laptop> oh i see the problem
[06:07] <Madpilot> !breezy
[06:08] <DShepher1> Mstrshade: I think  can use gparted...I have never used it myself thougoh
[06:08] <raghu> Mstrshade: knoppix has partiton resizing it may be in ubuntu also not sure
[06:08] <Sam3773> Urm.. How come startx wont work in recovery mode, makes life easier to edit users.
[06:08] <nf_> Hi
[06:09] <nf_> anyone?
[06:09] <nf_> faggot
[06:09] <x86i> ...
[06:09] <x86i> that was strange
[06:09] <DShepher1> very,,
[06:09] <JakobGedionsen> :-D Yir... Funny dude...
[06:09] <Mstrshade> Wel you see Its a work machine, but I find myself using ubuntu more and more
[06:10] <Mstrshade> so I don't want to wipe the xp part off, just take some more space and add it to ubuntu
[06:10] <raghu> Mstrshade, xp has how many partition?
[06:10] <Sam3773> Any way to bring up a user list in recovery mode?
[06:11] <JakobGedionsen> How do i get the headers for the Kernel source?
[06:11] <Mstrshade> 1
[06:11] <JakobGedionsen> It's linux-source-2.6.12
[06:11] <raghu> Sam3773, ls /home
[06:11] <Mstrshade> roc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[06:11] <Mstrshade> /dev/hda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[06:11] <Mstrshade> /dev/hda2       none            swap    sw              0       0
[06:11] <Mstrshade> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:11] <Mstrshade> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[06:11] <Mstrshade> /dev/hda1      /media/windows   ntfs    iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0       0
[06:11] <JakobGedionsen> Some dude said i should do that and then left...
[06:11] <DShepher1> Mstrshade: check out gparted http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=396
[06:11] <Sam3773> Cheers, now all i need is the password
[06:12] <DShepher1> lol
[06:12] <raghu> JakobGedionsen: apt-get update
[06:13] <Sam3773> Ahhh i'm in, thank you all
[06:13] <JakobGedionsen> raghu Was that it???
[06:13] <DShepher1> Mstrshade: use synaptic....to search for it..if you want to install it. ensuire you have universe and multiverse installed
[06:13] <kowa> sorry im new ive the question how can i install kylix
[06:14] <Seveas> Mstrshade, NEVER paste in here
[06:14] <raghu> JakobGedionsen: apt-get update && apt-cache search kernel source && apt-get install sourcename
[06:14] <highvoltage> i wouldn't recommend it.
[06:14] <highvoltage> kylix is a dead project.
[06:14] <kowa> i need it for school
[06:15] <kowa> ?
[06:15] <vezult> is there a reason why, in GNOME, when attempting to connect to a samba server, I am prompted to authenticate with each server on the network in turn?
[06:15] <ari123> oki i jsut need help how i register here ,
[06:15] <ari123>  ?
[06:16] <kowa> who can help me to install kylix?
[06:16] <JakobGedionsen> Seveas Still no-go... How did i do that header thing?
[06:17] <JakobGedionsen> Seveas root@Jakob:~# apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[06:17] <JakobGedionsen> Reading package lists... Done
[06:17] <JakobGedionsen> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:17] <JakobGedionsen> linux-source-2.6.12 is already the newest version.
[06:17] <JakobGedionsen> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:17] <raghu> JakobGedionsen, what are you trying to install?
[06:17] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[06:17] <ari123> selenium u around ?
[06:18] <crighton> Im having trouble installing JRE, im following the steps in the java howTo from the wiki but am getting the "No matching Plugin Found" error when running make-jpkg, ive tried prefacing the command with DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=i386-linux as suggested there but i still get the same error
[06:19] <Seveas> crighton, what is the exact command you are running?
[06:19] <F-Jakob> Why did you ban me?
[06:20] <crighton> seveas, fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[06:20] <crighton>  at first then tried DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=i386-linuk fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[06:20] <crighton> 
[06:20] <Madpilot> !tell F-Jakob about paste
[06:20] <Seveas> crighton, throuw out the -rpm.bin and download the correct .bin
[06:20] <DShepher1> crighton: I not sure what command or what exactly ur reading...are you using ubuntu breezy?
[06:20] <ari123> i cant see my ntfs partition ? how it s possible since my external drive is recognise ..;its also ntfs .
[06:20] <Seveas> Madpilot, amaranth kicked the bot...
[06:20] <F-Jakob> Sorry...
[06:20] <Seveas> and cafuego is not around
[06:21] <Madpilot> Seveas: yeah, just noticed that... what happened?
[06:21] <crighton> Dshepher1: im using hoary
[06:21] <DShepher1> oh.. ok
[06:21] <kowa> hello...
[06:21] <crighton> Seveas, thanks will try
[06:21] <Seveas> Madpilot, single-sided decision without even an attempt to discuss
[06:21] <Seveas> very weird...
[06:21] <kowa> how can i get libxll.so  ??
[06:22] <Madpilot> Seveas: huh... ah well. We'll just have to actually remember things, instead of always asking the bot. :P
[06:22] <ari123> someone could help me i jsut want to use unbutu as workstation with some applic and some hardware ...
[06:22] <ari123> plz help
[06:22] <deFrysk> kowa, what are your trying to install ?
[06:22] <kowa> kylix
[06:22] <deFrysk> n
[06:23] <kowa> i also need stdint.h
[06:23] <antwan> hello
[06:23] <kowa> can you help me deFrysk
[06:24] <deFrysk> kowa, I cannot for I do not know the package
[06:24] <raghu> kowa: http://sheepdogguides.com/tut.htm
[06:24] <kowa> thx
[06:24] <crighton> seveas, problem solved...thanks!
[06:24] <Faulty> can someone help me please?
[06:24] <trappist> apt-file search filename
[06:24] <antwan> I have few troubles with my config : I'd just do apt-get install linux-686, afterwards, my sound card doesn't work anymore (?!)
[06:24] <raghu> kowa: http://www.arunet.co.uk/tkboyd/tutad.htm
[06:24] <Faulty> With various linux questions ... like connecting to irc etc
[06:25] <darkheart> !helpme
[06:25] <Faulty> O.o
[06:25] <F-Jakob> .-D
[06:25] <andris> how to install KDE on ubuntu?
[06:25] <silversurfer> lol
[06:25] <trappist> Faulty: ask questions, get answers
[06:25] <DShepher1> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:25] <silversurfer> sudo apt-get install kde
[06:25] <raghu> andris, apt-get install kde by adding kde repositorie or using kbuntu
[06:25] <Faulty> trappist: I can open google via firefox on my ubuntu machine, but i cant connect to irc with x-chat ... ?
[06:25] <trappist> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:26] <deFrysk> kubuntu-desktop would be the best option
[06:26] <trappist> Faulty: how are you trying and what happens when you try
[06:26] <andris> thnx
[06:26] <antwan> no sound after apt-get install linux-686, why ? thx
[06:26] <kowa> thx very much
[06:26] <Madpilot> darkheart: we're botless here ATM... but ubotu is still on #ubuntu-offtopic or via /msg
[06:27] <crighton> out of interest if you install using kubuntu-desktop will it automatically offer a choice of KDE and gnome on login?
[06:27] <Faulty> trappist: ok um ... first it said summin bout secure connection then i moved from using ssh and a proxy now it says ... summin summin "Maybe wrong version?"
[06:27] <Faulty> wrong version number sorry
[06:27] <darkheart> Madpilot Ahh, he's on strike huh?
[06:27] <deFrysk> crighton, if you prefer kde , you could also install kdm and set it as default for it has better functionality with kde
[06:27] <trappist> crighton: iirc it gave me a choice between kdm and gdm, and kdm let me choose
[06:28] <Kououken> I'm using Ubuntu on a linux box that serves as a media center, but is controlled from a windows machine on the network.  I can turn on the box with a simple wake-on-lan network command, but is there an easy way to shut down the box without doing SSH and logging in, sudo, etc etc.?  I'm fairly new to linux, but love the flexibility and ease of use of Ubuntu.  If anyone knows how I might create a simple script to do this please let me 
[06:28] <Faulty> And I'm on a lan via this pc ...
[06:28] <crighton> deFrysk, new to linux thought it might be nice to have both :)
[06:28] <trappist> Faulty: I need you to do better than summin summin.  if you can tell me what you did and the actual error message, maybe I can help.
[06:28] <Faulty> via a 56k connection *puke*
[06:28] <deFrysk> crighton, with kdm you can also login to gnome
[06:28] <Madpilot> darkheart: one of the ops kicked the bot for reasons unknown...
[06:28] <antwan> Why my rt2500 wifi pci card is working well under 386 and not on 686 version ?
[06:28] <crighton> trappist, cool might be worth a shot then :)
[06:28] <Faulty> trappist: ok lemme type it out seeming i cant copy paste :( ok wait maybe i can ......... hold on
[06:29] <darkheart> Madpilot That's...kinda funny =P
[06:29] <Kououken> I suppose what I'm looking for is the quickest way to shut down Ubuntu over a network?
[06:29] <crighton> deFrysk, sounds good!
[06:30] <PatrikJohansson> Photoshop is to the Gimp as Flash MX is to ... ??
[06:30] <deFrysk> crighton, and you can always switch back to gdm if you choose to do so
[06:30] <deFrysk> nythacker, why the ping ?
[06:30] <trappist> Kououken: you can do it via ssh without actually logging in and getting a console
[06:31] <crighton> deFrysk, the PCs at uni had a setup where you could just choose from a drop down box at login, is that kind of thing easy to setup?
[06:31] <deFrysk> crighton, gdm does that and kdm does that also
[06:31] <trappist> Kououken: like, ssh remotebox shutdown -h now
[06:31] <antwan> Hey Guys, nobody to answer my questions ? 1) No sound since apt-get 686 and rt2500 wifi 's module not detected under 683 (it is under 386), thnks
[06:32] <crighton> deFrysk, brilliant, once ive finished installing JRE i'll prob give that a try
[06:32] <Kououken> trappist: could I google that and figure it out myself maybe? :)
[06:32] <hs> PatrikJohansson, i think only for windows and to mac
[06:32] <hs> PatrikJohansson, no equivalent
[06:32] <deFrysk> crighton, in gdm choose session and then gnome or kde
[06:33] <trappist> Kououken: you could do that, but I just gave you an answer
[06:33] <hs> antwan,  may be files overwrittenn try reinstalling them or even plgins
[06:33] <Kououken> Trappist: and it won't ask for user/pw every time?
[06:33] <Oneakin> Hi
[06:34] <antwan> I'll try, ok thx
[06:34] <crighton> deFrysk, so kdm and kde are different things?
[06:34] <trappist> Kououken: set up ssh keys so it won't ask for a password.  put your ssh public key in root's .ssh/authorized_keys and you can do it as root.
[06:34] <Faulty> trappist:
[06:34] <Faulty> Connecting to kornbluth.freenode.net (82.96.64.4) port 6667...
[06:34] <Faulty> * Connection failed. Error: (336130315) error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number
[06:34] <Faulty> Are you sure this is a SSL capable server and port?
[06:34] <Faulty> sorry for paste
[06:34] <[LethAL] > I think you use ipv6.freenode.net
[06:34] <Oneakin> I'm sitting with windows right now, but I'm planning to change to linux. I have a question though, Can I reach my old harddrives through linux easily ?
[06:34] <moyogo> hi
[06:34] <hs> Oneakin, why not
[06:35] <lilo> whoops
[06:35] <DShepher1> Oneakin:I hope so...you should be able..once the are working
[06:35] <Oneakin> Isnt it different file systems?
[06:35] <Oneakin> or something..
[06:35] <Chris_in_the_uk> i'm back.  i'm trying to install ubuntu over network.  I have set up a server as outlined in the wiki and i've set the installing pc to boot off network but it's not working
[06:35] <DShepher1> Oneakin: your asking or telling us?
[06:35] <Oneakin> asking
[06:35] <Ophiocus> once you install linux linux can read fat and ntfs partitions
[06:35] <hs> Oneakin,but linux has support for them
[06:35] <Kououken> Trappist: great! I'll look into it.  Now I won't have to touch the keyboard even to watch movies...  This is going to do wonders for my health.
[06:35] <Seveas> lilo, yeah seems like a new invasion has happened
[06:35] <Oneakin> nice :)
[06:36] <Faulty> :(
[06:36] <Oneakin> thanks
[06:36] <[LethAL] > Although by default accessing your NTFS partition may be awkward
[06:36] <Oneakin> why?
[06:36] <[LethAL] > And NTFS support is still only ro
[06:36] <trappist> Faulty: 6667 is not an ssl port on freenode.  don't try to connect securely.
[06:36] <Oneakin> what's "ro" ?
[06:36] <deFrysk> crighton, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kdm
[06:36] <Faulty> trappist: in the x-chat settings i took off ssh and secure connection + proxy
[06:36] <lilo> Seveas: *nod* I think they're still expecting to be doing private messages spam
[06:36] <hs> Oneakin, read only
[06:36] <Faulty> cant connect to blabber either
[06:36] <DShepher1> [LethAL] : Oneakin you can write to NTFS....but it is not 100% safe
[06:37] <deFrysk> crighton, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Display_Manager
[06:37] <lilo> Seveas: that at least is no longer a problem
[06:37] <crighton> deFrysk, cheers for all the help, will read that now
[06:37] <trappist> Faulty: I don't even know what blabber is
[06:37] <[LethAL] > DShepher1, I know you can, that's what I meant
[06:37] <DShepher1> [LethAL] : ok
[06:37] <Faulty> trappist blabber is just another server :/
[06:37] <Faulty> but i can connect to the net via firefox so it must be x-chat settings right?
[06:37] <Niomi> DShepher1, I didn't know you could write to NTFS, do you have a tutorial or page on it to recomend?
[06:38] <[LethAL] > And Oneakin, I said it would be awkward because when I installed Ubuntu again a few days ago, I could only access my NTFS partition as root
[06:38] <trappist> Faulty: yes.  xchat is trying to establish ssl connections on non-ssl ports.
[06:38] <trappist> Faulty: in xchat, just do this: /newserver irc.freenode.net
[06:38] <Oneakin> oh..
[06:38] <DShepherd> Niomi: just set the options to rw
[06:38] <Faulty> ok trappist i'm gonna go slog away and see if i can cvonnect :) btw why is Adrenalin an erroneuos nick here>
[06:38] <Faulty> connect*
[06:38] <trappist> Faulty: I guess the nick is taken
[06:38] <Niomi> DShepherd, thanks :D
[06:38] <Faulty> ty trappist
[06:39] <x86i> Chris_in_the_uk: Which WIKI are you reading?
[06:39] <DShepherd> Niomi: but I must warn you... weird things do happen
[06:39] <Oneakin> Is it the same with fat 32 ?
[06:39] <Answer> OK I know this is an obvious question... how do I install a .deb package?
[06:39] <trappist> Answer: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[06:39] <[LethAL] > sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[06:39] <hs> Oneaki: no it as very god suport for it
[06:39] <Madpilot> Oneakin: Fat32 can read/write fine
[06:40] <Oneakin> okey... just checked and both my old drives is ntfs -_-
[06:40] <Oneakin> are*
[06:41] <[LethAL] > You can convert NTFS to FAT32, but you have to do it in Windows and you have to have special partitioning tools
[06:41] <Swamp_Donkey> <-= Faulty  :)
[06:41] <Niomi> DShepherd, I don't want too much -- I have a windows and linux partition, I'm transferring my files gradually from windows to linux. But I want to keep my windows partition for games. I have a note on each NTFS folder that i've transferred over to linux, and i'd like to delete that folder from linux because it would be easier that way to know which folders i've brought over and which i haven't. i don't plan to modify any files from li
[06:41] <Niomi> nux, though. is this safe?
[06:41] <Niko__> what does a swamp donkey look like?
[06:41] <Faulty> yay i connected
[06:41] <Faulty> bbs
[06:42] <trappist> Niomi: I think it is with very new versions of the ntfs drivers, which I don't think ubuntu has yet.
[06:43] <DShepherd> Niomi: well you can try deleting them, but do so at your own risk
[06:43] <Niomi> trappist, is there a way i can update the drivers or encorperate them into my breezy install? are the new drivers in dapper?
[06:44] <trappist> Niomi: I just checked the site, and the status of that feature is 'alpha', which means you risk losing the whole filesystem
[06:44] <trappist> Niomi: http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/status.html#ntfsdriver
[06:45] <[LethAL] > It's a lot easier to rw to ext3 in windows
[06:46] <trappist> Niomi: your other option is captive: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[06:46] <arek> hi czy s tu jacys Polacy ?
[06:46] <trappist> arek: #ubuntu-pl
[06:46] <arek> ok to jest kna ubuntu ?
[06:46] <trappist> nm it's empty
[06:46] <trappist> that sucks
[06:48] <DShepherd> has anyone enable their breezy backports and begun upgrading to dapper?
[06:48] <arek> i have  problem my firefox  is dead ...what doing ?
[06:48] <swb> I enabled backports this morning
[06:48] <trappist> arek: it might be running in the background - killall firefox-bin
[06:48] <Niomi> trappist: thanks for the info, it'll be much appreciated! i think i might backup my whole windows NTFS system and overwrite it with a FAT32 install. i could install the new dapper as ext3 (my breezy install is rieserFS) and use that explore FS program to read/write from windows.
[06:48] <DShepherd> arek: call the hospital..
[06:49] <arek> :) sure
[06:49] <DShepherd> swb: started upgrading and stuff?
[06:50] <swb> no updates
[06:50] <arek> :( a recevie  non processed kiled
[06:52] <DShepherd> swb: really ok
[06:52] <arek> firefix runing nice but, have not  buttons or textarea only show  jpg
[06:52] <DShepherd> swb:  you running it on a test machine?
[06:52] <swb> DShepherd, nope on my desktop box
[06:52] <raghu> arek: have installed web developer extention?
[06:53] <swb> I havent changed my sources to dapper tho
[06:53] <yanqi> do you have tips to optimize ubuntu ? i mean, i'm really happy with it because it's working great and it's very usable but i sometimes feel like it lacks responsiveness
[06:53] <swb> only put the backports
[06:53] <arek> yes :(
[06:53] <DShepherd> swb: ok kool
[06:53] <raghu> arek: if so you might have clicked on show only images in them
[06:53] <swb> yanqi, you could try using a more lightweight window manager
[06:53] <swb> what are your specs?
[06:53] <DShepherd> yanqi: it depends on how you want to customize it
[06:54] <raghu> arek, :)
[06:54] <arek> only show images
[06:54] <arek> no text from www website
[06:55] <yanqi> DShepherd, well, gnome may be too much for my computer, i don't think i've got enough RAM to run it 128Megs
[06:55] <raghu> arek, may be some extension you have clicked by mistake
[06:55] <DShepherd> well do what swb suggested
[06:55] <arek> i check
[06:55] <DShepherd> get a light weight window manager.....Xcfe is very nice
[06:55] <yanqi> swb, do you use another wm yourself ?
[06:55] <[LethAL] > Yeah, xfce pwns
[06:55] <[LethAL] > :P
[06:56] <[LethAL] > Not that I'm using it right now
[06:56] <swb> I have done
[06:56] <DShepherd> [LethAL] : me either...:)
[06:56] <swb> but this machine ha a gig of ram and a 1.4gig chip, and gnome 2.10 is sweet :)
[06:56] <DShepherd> [LethAL] : gnome?
[06:56] <swb> I used fluxbox
[06:56] <[LethAL] > Yeah
[06:56] <swb> it was very nice
[06:56] <[LethAL] > I may switch to wmaker soom, I allways like that one
[06:56] <swb> but no desktop icons or panels or bars
[06:56] <[LethAL] > soon*
[06:57] <swb> all menus are accessed from right clik and it scrolls through desktops wih the mouse wheel, its very quick
[06:57] <DShepherd> [LethAL] : wmaker....hmmm.... ok
[06:57] <yanqi> swb, yeah.. gnome is pretty usable, i'll try fluxbox and xfce anyway
[06:57] <yanqi> thx all for your advices
[06:57] <[LethAL] > DShepherd, it loks ugly until you turn AA and font-smoothing on :P
[06:58] <DShepherd> [LethAL] : ok. i have heard of it...but neva really looked at it
[06:59] <swb> [LethAL] , thats pertty interesting
[06:59] <PatrikJohansson> hs, isnt there anything similar??
[06:59] <swb> i thought it just looked ugly
[06:59] <[LethAL] > Well, you could have worse
[06:59] <swb> I didn't know it did AA
[06:59] <[LethAL] > Ya
[06:59] <swb> you got a screenshot?
[06:59] <[LethAL] > Nope
[06:59] <DShepherd> swb:  whats AA?
[06:59] <[LethAL] > AntiAliasing
[06:59] <swb> Antia-Aliasing
[06:59] <swb> oops
[06:59] <swb> too damn slow
[06:59] <[LethAL] > :P
[06:59] <swb> smoothing
[07:00] <swb> of jagged lines and edges
[07:00] <DShepherd> swb: kool
[07:00] <[LethAL] > I used wmaker on windows, was going to set it as my shell then the box fooked up
[07:01] <nprice> I'm having a bit of trouble with CPU frequency scaling.  On Ubuntu, it will only go down as far as 700mhz from 850mhz, but on FreeBSD, it was able to scale down to 125mhz.  Any ideas?
[07:01] <DShepherd> [LethAL] : :) ...that's how it goes sometimes
[07:01] <[LethAL] > sometimes? :p
[07:02] <dean_> haz
[07:03] <dean_> am how do i chaneg my language in ubuntu 5.10 breezy version
[07:03] <g|patrick> hi
[07:04] <DShepherd> swb: http://windowmaker.org/imageview.php?a=wmaker-0.91.0_1280x1024 -- screenshot
[07:04] <g|patrick> !uboto mounting
[07:04] <g|patrick> :/
[07:04] <g|patrick> can someone tell me how to mount harddisks?
[07:04] <cellphone> $ man mount
[07:05] <Secreth`X> err ok
[07:05] <swb> thats not so bad
[07:05] <Secreth`X> does someone have some time?
[07:05] <kvidell> cellphone: If you're not going to help, don't.
[07:05] <g|patrick> cellphone: excuse me?
[07:05] <Secreth`X> Because, I know how strange it sounds, but the Ubuntu Install CD just ruined my HD.
[07:05] <cellphone> manpages give great deals of helpful info on their respective commands
[07:05] <nprice_> hmm I seem to have lost my wireless link
[07:05] <kvidell> yes, but we like to try and give a good answer before resorting to "rtfm" here.
[07:06] <cellphone> k
[07:06] <dean_> am i make update from mz ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10 breezy do i have to change now source.list, because there are still adress for updates of hoary ubuntu
[07:06] <raghu> dean_, yes
[07:06] <nprice_> anyways, on FreeBSD, I was able to use cpu frequency scaling to scale down from 850mhz all the way to 125mhz.  On Ubuntu, the only options are 700mhz and 850mhz, and 700mhz isn't much of a power savings over 850mhz.
[07:06] <g|patrick> dean_: I did so, but my breezy is full of annying bugs because of that overwriting :(
[07:07] <Secreth`X> Is there anyone who has some time for me? Because, I know how strange it sounds, but the Ubuntu Install CD just ruined my HD.
[07:07] <g|patrick> how?
[07:07] <dean_> i see some bugs too, but so to what i change_
[07:07] <g|patrick> is the disc exploded and crashed through the harddisk?
[07:07] <g|patrick> i'll make a clean install soon
[07:07] <cellphone> must've shattered and embedded itself in your platters
[07:08] <PatrikJohansson> anyone know a program similar to Flash MX for linux???
[07:08] <g|patrick> backupping data and installing breezy from scratch
[07:08] <Secreth`X> Err no g|patrick..
[07:08] <g|patrick> well... so u cant boot windows anymore?
[07:08] <Secreth`X> I was trying to do a multi OS
[07:08] <Secreth`X> no I cant
[07:08] <g|patrick> define "destroyed" my harddisk
[07:08] <raghu> PatrikJohansson, no equivalent in linux
[07:08] <Secreth`X> Everytime it says "Unable to read HardDisk"
[07:08] <Secreth`X> even from boot
[07:08] <g|patrick> is it physical wrecked or are the partionslost?
[07:08] <Secreth`X> it doesnt even start windows
[07:08] <dean_> can anyone give me link to that script that make you sources.list
[07:09] <dirk777> I use ubuntu (as browser-appliance) and firefox disappears (after some period of time) on the regular basis. The same with epiphany. What's wrong? Does anybody experience the same trouble?
[07:09] <g|patrick> ur harddisc seems to be ok, but ur bootsector is defect, iguess
[07:09] <Secreth`X> well
[07:09] <Secreth`X> Then it must happend in the last 10 minutes
[07:10] <Secreth`X> because before running Ubuntu Install CD I just could start up windows as I wanted it
[07:10] <raghu> dirk777: strange!
[07:10] <Marco`> ..
[07:10] <Marco`> your giving free cds and gonna pay the shipping costs too?
[07:10] <g|patrick> Secreth`X: have u installed ubuntu in a separate partition or did u write it into the windows one?
[07:10] <stephank> Marco`: They've been doing that for a while, I just got mine yesterday :p
[07:11] <Secreth`X> None of the two.. I let the install CD make a partition itself..
[07:11] <Marco`> i gotta try this
[07:11] <g|patrick> well, can someone give me a tutorial how to make mount points and mount harddisks
[07:11] <raghu> Secreth`X, automatic partition?
[07:11] <g|patrick> neither google nor ur wiki gives a simple answer
[07:11] <canindya> are the official breezy backports are available/open now?
[07:11] <Secreth`X> yes raghu
[07:12] <Secreth`X> g|patrick if ubotu was here you just needed to type windowsdrives :)
[07:12] <raghu> Secreth`X, it will erase entire disk
[07:12] <Secreth`X> !ubotu windowsdrive
[07:12] <Secreth`X> err no raghu
[07:12] <Secreth`X> there was an option to just resize it
[07:12] <Secreth`X> and then make a partition of the freed space
[07:12] <g|patrick> Secreth`X: no... i am talking about filesystems and aprtitions in general
[07:12] <raghu> Secreth`X, k
[07:12] <g|patrick> havent used linux for weeks
[07:12] <Secreth`X> g|patrick k sorry
[07:12] <Secreth`X> raghu, do you know something? :x
[07:13] <raghu> Secreth`X, are you resizing partition/
[07:13] <dirkson> Hey all
[07:14] <g|patrick> hey... cant u give me even the command to mount?
[07:14] <Secreth`X> Yes I did
[07:14] <Secreth`X> but It didnt work
[07:14] <Taa5i> Is there a way to redirect or split stdout from a script [eg echoes and program outputs]  to a file instead, please?
[07:14] <Secreth`X> It said something about insufficient space (thats not the word, but anyway, something similiar)
[07:14] <dducko> Got a quick question, auto updater says Nautilus needs updated, but its not authenicating it?
[07:14] <Secreth`X> and then it just didnt resize it
[07:14] <Marco`> tell me
[07:14] <darkono> hi!!
[07:14] <raghu> Secreth`X, http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html
[07:15] <Marco`> where did you get the money to pay for all the shiping costs?
[07:15] <g|patrick> come on, simply the mount command plz...
[07:15] <g|patrick> i am searching for it for 20minutes now
[07:15] <canindya> dducko, not authenticating means? its not accepting the password?
[07:15] <darkono> why i can open a rar objet?
[07:15] <avenger> hi
[07:15] <g|patrick> weired, that i cant find basic commands in the web :(
[07:15] <Secreth`X> I know that raghu, thanks anyway
[07:15] <Madpilot> g|patrick: have you read "man mount" yet?
[07:15] <canindya> g|patrick,  mount "which part to mount" "where to mount"
[07:15] <dirkson> Say- Anyone know how to get the ncurses package? I'm a bit of a linux n00b, but I need it to recompile the kernel. (I need newest version for some hardware of mine)
[07:16] <g|patrick> Madpilot: what are u talking about?
[07:16] <Secreth`X> raghu, I'll redo the setup and tell you the errors, ok?
[07:16] <dducko> no it accepted and when I go to install it isnt Authenicated, like its coming off the multiverse.. but its Nautilus
[07:16] <avenger> hi, just wondering, is it alright to install sun's jdk on a mounted partition?
[07:16] <dirkson> (The kernel says it needs ncurses)
[07:16] <g|patrick> nobody gave me a link to whatever u are talking about
[07:16] <DShepherd> example mount -t filesystemtype devicetobemount mountpoint -o options
[07:16] <Secreth`X> g|patrick type man mount in terminal
[07:16] <g|patrick> canindya: ???
[07:17] <gratuit> dirkson: install libncurses5-dev or whatever the ncurses dev package is these days
[07:17] <raghu> Secreth`X, tried this? http://nishants.net/articles/ntfsresize.htm
[07:17] <Madpilot> g|patrick: the man pages are on your own system - see Secreth`X's comment above...
[07:17] <canindya> g|patrick, look here http://publibn.boulder.ibm.com/doc_link/en_US/a_doc_lib/cmds/aixcmds3/mount.htm
[07:17] <dirkson> Oh. Well that's pretty simple :D
[07:17] <Secreth`X> raghu: I didnt try anything
[07:17] <Secreth`X> raghu: I just let the install cd do its work
[07:17] <canindya> are the official breezy backports are available/open now? anybody please?
[07:18] <raghu> Secreth`X, truy with link i pasted
[07:18] <Boobek> hi
[07:18] <daved-> anyone know anything about native xen support in dapper?
[07:18] <avenger> hi, anyone have any idea on what could be the reason for this error? sudo: unable to execute /media/linux/jdk1.5.0_05/bin/java: Permission denied
[07:18] <gratuit> avenger: is the execute bit set on that file?
[07:19] <raghu> avenger, what is the permission on that file?
[07:19] <dirkson> *blinks and sighs* I think it says I need a directory. It's depressing to be n00bish enough to need help picking a directory.
[07:19] <g|patrick> well... i still dont understand how to mount a partition
[07:19] <g|patrick> have read that
[07:19] <avenger> i used chmod to set it to 777
[07:19] <canindya> g|patrick, did you see the page?
[07:19] <raghu> avenger, who has permission?
[07:19] <dirkson> Open terminal. Type Mount hdaX /MOUNTAREA where x is the number of the partition you want to mount, and mountarea is where you want to mount it
[07:19] <canindya> g|patrick, do you know which partition you want to mount?
[07:19] <g|patrick> ya... but its a little too complex
[07:19] <raghu> avenger, do ls -l
[07:20] <Secreth`X> arr
[07:20] <g|patrick> canindya: thats why i google for it
[07:20] <Secreth`X> stupid internet..
[07:20] <avenger> the file owner is root, but everyone has permissions for everything
[07:20] <g|patrick> i have no idea how linux hanldes this
[07:20] <g|patrick> half a year ago someone had a script that did that for me
[07:20] <g|patrick> but i personally have never found a tutorial that explains it without complex crap i never use again
[07:20] <Ratzilla> does anyone know how to change the default font size?
[07:20] <Secreth`X> alright
[07:20] <canindya> g|patrick, 'do you know' which partition you want to mont?
[07:20] <avenger> teo@ubuntu:/media/linux/download$ ls -l
[07:20] <avenger> total 2232
[07:20] <avenger> -rwxrwxrwx  1 root root  202240 2005-11-10 21:48 Dual Perspectives NaNoWriMo2.doc
[07:20] <avenger> -rwxrwxrwx  1 root root 2072958 2005-11-10 23:46 jedit42install.jar
[07:21] <Secreth`X> raghu, did you get everyting I sayd?
[07:21] <raghu> avenger, try running as root
[07:21] <g|patrick> canindya: no... in now that there is only one partition on dev sdb2 that has to be mounted
[07:21] <bigmoe> could someone help me
[07:21] <g|patrick> gparded generated it for me
[07:21] <gratuit> avenger: what are the permissions of /media/linux/jdk1.5.0_05/bin/java
[07:21] <avenger> Failed to run  sudo /media/linux/jdk1.5.0_05/bin/java jedit42install.jar
[07:21] <avenger>  as user root:
[07:21] <avenger>  Child terminated with 113 status
[07:21] <bigmoe> i cannot login linux only the flase terminal
[07:22] <bigmoe> this is my problem i signed out of linux without shutign it down i forced the shutdown but there was a file that's still open and then when i wanted to relogin a messege tells me that the permission denied to create the mkdir in the tmp for the new session
[07:22] <bigmoe> and now i cannot login only on the false terminal
[07:22] <avenger> permissions are :for owner,group,others:read write execute
[07:22] <avenger> all the boxed are checked
[07:23] <dirkson> Still not having any luck here......... Anyone feel inclined to walk me through installing ncurses? :-/
[07:23] <gratuit> avenger: is the noexec option passed to mount when you mount the partition? check fstab if not sure
[07:23] <g|patrick> would it be mount dev/sdb/ dev/sdb2 ????
[07:23] <raghu> avenger, java -jar ./jedit42install.jar
[07:23] <g|patrick> i dont see the partionen anywhere
[07:23] <canindya> g|patrick, create a directory first then type in mount /dev/sdb2 'the path to the dir you created'
[07:23] <g|patrick> neither can i find a graphiccal tool
[07:24] <g|patrick> that mounts that for me
[07:24] <avenger> raghu:Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[07:24] <PatrikJohansson> raghu, so you cant make flash applications in Linux???
[07:24] <avenger> gratuit:/dev/hda5 /media/linux vfat user,auto,iocharset=utf8,umask=000 thats the exact command in fstab
[07:25] <raghu> PatrikJohansson, no as for as i  know
[07:25] <dirkson> *smiles and waits on the mercy of the Linux-gurus*
[07:25] <PatrikJohansson> raghu: GAH :'(
[07:25] <raghu> PatrikJohansson, it is possble in MAC and windows
[07:25] <PatrikJohansson> raghu: that i know
[07:25] <g|patrick> well, i called the folder linux2
[07:25] <blondie> MAC = Media Access Control, not Mac
[07:25] <daved-> anyone know anything about native xen support in dapper?
[07:26] <raghu> PatrikJohansson, :)
[07:26] <siegheil> hi
[07:26] <g|patrick> nautilus is confusiing...
[07:26] <g|patrick> cant i switch to an adressbar where the path is displayed
[07:26] <g|patrick> these buttons there instead are annoying
[07:26] <canindya> g|patrick, you can press Ctrl + L
[07:26] <g|patrick> ah thx
[07:26] <swb> g|patrick, you can right click and select browse
[07:27] <g|patrick> there is no rightclick menu
[07:27] <swb> and you can set to default to that kind of view in the gnome configuartion editor
[07:27] <g|patrick> my breezy is wrecked
[07:27] <swb> right click on a folder
[07:27] <g|patrick> there is no rightclick menu!!!
[07:27] <g|patrick> as i said...
[07:27] <g|patrick> have to mount that partion
[07:27] <avenger> erm, any ideas for my problem?
[07:27] <g|patrick> copy there my stuff
[07:27] <canindya> g|patrick, in a terminal you then type in mount /dev/sdb2 'path of linux2'
[07:27] <g|patrick> any reinstalling breezy
[07:28] <alexander__> can anyone help with an instal prob
[07:28] <siegheil> SIEGHEIL!!!!! HEIL HITLER!!!
[07:28] <g|patrick> "dev/sdb2 /media/linux2" in my case
[07:28] <raghu> avenger, wait a sec
[07:28] <Secreth`X> siegheil: you're sick.
[07:28] <avenger> raghu: ok thanks
[07:28] <g|patrick> and enver been to germany...
[07:28] <Alinux> siegheil no nazis here. shut up please.
[07:28] <g|patrick> these ancient stupid prejudges are annoying
[07:28] <dirkson> Any chance someone could help me out installing ncurses? Or gtk, even, for that matter.
[07:28] <g|patrick> we in germany have less nazis than the usa!!!
[07:29] <g|patrick> in percent of population!
[07:29] <canindya> g|patrick, fine thnn type in sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/linux2
[07:29] <g|patrick> canindya: thx :)
[07:29] <Alinux> g|patrick, or in russia :)
[07:29] <g|patrick> i'll give it a try
[07:29] <g|patrick> ^
[07:29] <g|patrick> ^ ^
[07:29] <Stormx2> any nice way to assign hotkeys a command?
[07:29] <Madpilot> canindya: any idea how to change Nautilus back to buttons after hitting Ctrl+L?
[07:29] <alexander__> how do you install stuff in linux
[07:29] <alexander__> in the command line stuff
[07:30] <Stormx2> alexander__: "sudo apt-get install <package name>"
[07:30] <g|patrick> hmmm... i have to give a filesysteminfo
[07:30] <blondie> alexander__: apt-get install
[07:30] <Madpilot> Stormx2: System menu - Prefs - Keyboard shortcuts
[07:30] <g|patrick> how do i do that?
[07:30] <Stormx2> Madpilot: Theres no "command" option?
[07:30] <alexander__> so when do type that in
[07:30] <g|patrick> ah ...
[07:30] <g|patrick> lost a slash in front of "dev"
[07:30] <Stormx2> alexander__: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[07:30] <canindya> Madpilot, no man
[07:30] <dirkson> Hmm... Alexander's answer helps. So, to find out what the ncurses package it named.... I don't think it shows in Synaptic.........
[07:30] <Stormx2> alexander__: But, you can use synaptic!
[07:31] <Stormx2> alexander__: Go to System > Administration > Synaptic!
[07:31] <Madpilot> canindya: just discovered that if you close Naut & restart, it reverts back to buttons
[07:31] <dirkson> But booting up firefox is scary o.o I might overload my connection and have to reboot. Choices, choices.
[07:31] <canindya> Madpilot, thats is there but not in that window i think , i mean without restarting
[07:31] <Stormx2> Madpilot: You want an address bar?
[07:31] <g|patrick> ok... drive is mounted
[07:32] <g|patrick> but no rights to access it
[07:32] <g|patrick> how can i change that?
[07:32] <Madpilot> Stormx2: do you mean assigning kb shortcuts via terminal? no idea, I'm afraid
[07:32] <alexander__> i dont have an administration
[07:32] <alexander__> link
[07:32] <Madpilot> Stormx2: no, I like the buttons
[07:32] <canindya> g|patrick, sudo chmod -R 777 /media/linux2
[07:32] <Stormx2> alexander__: At the top. Click on "System"
[07:33] <Stormx2> Madpilot: You have it in address bar mode and have to keep switching to buttons?
[07:33] <DShepherd> hey
[07:33] <Stormx2> Hi!
[07:33] <alexander__> at the top of what
[07:33] <canindya> Stormx2, nope Madpilot  wants the opposite after switching to location bar
[07:33] <dirkson> I'm having some trouble finding the ncurses package to install. Is it -supposed- to be in synaptic?
[07:34] <Madpilot> Stormx2: nope, it's in button and I switched it to adress w/ Ctrl+L - but hitting Ctrl+L again doesn't switch it back to buttons - restarting Naut. does, though
[07:34] <Stormx2> alexander__: Top of the screen. You see the gray bar?
[07:34] <alexander__> yeh
[07:34] <Stormx2> Madpilot: Hmm.
[07:34] <marko> hello guys
[07:34] <dirkson> I'm having some trouble finding the ncurses package to install. Is it -supposed- to be in synaptic?
[07:34] <marko> could anyone please give me a hand?
[07:35] <siegheil> SIEGHEIL!!!!! HEIL HITLER!!!
[07:35] <canindya> dirkson, yes I can find it in synaptic
[07:35] <marko> I have an issue installing a package
[07:35] <marko> "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[07:35] <marko> anyone heard about this before?
[07:35] <Madpilot> Seveas: ping
[07:35] <dirkson> Ok, well, that helps... Hmm.......
[07:35] <Seveas> pong
[07:35] <g|patrick> siegheil: ur a nuisance
[07:35] <Madpilot> Seveas: thnx
[07:35] <g|patrick> canindya: thx
[07:36] <g|patrick> worked fine :D
[07:36] <canindya> g|patrick,  np
[07:36] <Seveas> (hope there are not too many kyles in here)
[07:36] <Rockett18> nice job Saveas :)
[07:36] <Rockett18> Seveas rather
[07:36] <g|patrick> wouldnt it be better to ban is ip?
[07:36] <fanopnaic> cool, what advanced ircd feature was that? (making people leave a channel instead of kicking)
[07:36] <g|patrick> eccb01-00-barwga-24-51-119-54.atlaga.adelphia.net
[07:36] <dirkson> Ah, well, fine, now we've complicated matters- Ncurses is indeed installed! However, when I use make to try to compile the kernel, it complains that ncurses is not installed. Any ideas about -that- one?
[07:36] <Seveas> no
[07:37] <Seveas> if he is who I think he is, then it's not better :)
[07:37] <g|patrick> ok
[07:37] <g|patrick> :)
[07:37] <Silencer> how to disbale clock synchronising
[07:37] <dirkson> Ahhh, ahhh, nevermind. It need ncurses-devel
[07:37] <dirkson> I should have noticed that earlier
[07:37] <DShepherd> Silencer: at startup?
[07:37] <Silencer> yes
[07:37] <g|patrick> Silencer: reconfigure ur server and use utc instead of timezone compensation via gmt +x
[07:37] <DShepherd> Silencer: yeah I am interested in doing that tooo.
[07:37] <alexander__> storm2: are you there
[07:38] <Silencer> My watch is hury always on any reboot 20 minutes
[07:38] <g|patrick> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:38] <Silencer> and
[07:38] <g|patrick> then it uses local time - means the time in ur bios
[07:38] <Silencer> somehow
[07:38] <Silencer> it always
[07:38] <Silencer> change my timezone
[07:38] <dirkson> Ok, so to rephrase my question in a way that actually makes sense- Does anyone know where to get the ncurses-devel package?
[07:38] <DShepherd> g|patrick: ok thanks..
[07:38] <marko> would anyone know how to get round this error plz? "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[07:39] <Silencer> g|patrick, how to do that
[07:39] <Orborde> marko: Do you have gcc installed?
[07:39] <eghie> hey marko i had that yesterday
[07:39] <Ep|phany> hey
[07:39] <marko> yeah I have gcc
[07:39] <dirkson> Marko: Do you have enough permissions to do what you're trying to do?
[07:39] <g|patrick> afaik it was part of configuration of xorg
[07:39] <g|patrick> i am not sure
[07:39] <marko> well I tried with default user & root
[07:39] <eghie> forgot to install the build dependencies
[07:39] <g|patrick> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:39] <eghie> use default user
[07:39] <marko> marko@cypher:~/wine-0.9.1$ which gcc
[07:39] <marko> /usr/bin/gcc
[07:39] <g|patrick> it should be one of those options
[07:39] <Ep|phany> im trying to play a dvd in vlc but i cant seem to figure out what my dvd readers device name is
[07:40] <Ep|phany> does anyone have any ideas
[07:40] <eghie> apt-get install build-dep jadajada
[07:40] <marko> I'm on ubuntu 64b
[07:40] <Orborde> marko: Are you sure it wants whatever version of gcc you have installed?
[07:40] <eghie> wine in your case
[07:40] <marko> attempting to recompile wine since I can't find a 64b version in synaptic
[07:40] <CorruptedMind> on which IDE port is it pluged ?
[07:40] <Madpilot> dirkson: libncurses5-dev maybe?
[07:40] <marko> ermm let me check the log... maybe you're right and it's not the right gcc
[07:41] <Ep|phany> or does anyone know a good dvd player?
[07:41] <Orborde> marko: You may need to set up a 32bit chroot to use wine...not really sure.
[07:41] <marko> ohhhh
[07:41] <marko> darn
[07:41] <marko> :/
[07:41] <Madpilot> Ep|phany: Totem works for me; it's got a nice UI
[07:41] <Ep|phany> it saysit doesnt have the codec
[07:41] <tastyratz> how do I launch the kde gui? whats the command?
[07:41] <marko> why are no proggies ported to 64b yet :/
[07:41] <CorruptedMind> Ep|phany : the LG are pretty good
[07:41] <dirkson> Madpilot: Right, but where do I -find- this? I can't use Synaptic's built in downloader since it barfs my internet connection
[07:41] <marko> I read the chroot stuff and it looks quite harsh for a nOOb :p
[07:41] <g|patrick> tastyratz: have u installed the kde envirion ment?
[07:42] <tastyratz> just installed kubuntu
[07:42] <tastyratz> on a virtual machine
[07:42] <teo_> how do i un-install java?
[07:42] <marko> ah, I think i'll try switching to a 32b then.... thanks for your help anyhow Orborde & dirkson
[07:42] <Madpilot> dirkson: you could grab it from packages.ubuntu.com, I guess, but that'll get messy very quickly
[07:42] <dirkson> Most things barf my internet connection right now. I need to upgrade the kernel to fix that *Grin*
[07:42] <g|patrick> then on ur loginscreen should be kde avaible in the sessions menu
[07:42] <dirkson> Madpilot: Howso? I'm a bit of a n00b
[07:42] <DShepherd> Silencer: was your question answered?
[07:42] <marko> not as bad a I am :)
[07:42] <dirkson> Marko: Np at all :-/
[07:42] <marko> kk well thanks guys
[07:43] <Silencer> DShepherd, no :(
[07:43] <dirkson> Hey Marko:
[07:43] <DShepherd> Silencer: g|patrick cause dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesnt do anything
[07:43] <tastyratz> i just get the option to enter un/pw then it goes right to a command line interface
[07:43] <g|patrick> really?
[07:43] <g|patrick> :(
[07:43] <DShepherd> g|patrick: nope it doesnt
[07:43] <teo_> erm, to un-install java, do i just simply delete the directory?
[07:44] <g|patrick> i wonder which comman i used to confiugre that
[07:44] <Stormx2> No
[07:44] <teo_> as in suns's java
[07:44] <Orborde> marko: "c compiler cannot make executables" would seem to be an error unrelated to 32vs64bit, though
[07:44] <dirkson> You might try looking at some Gentoo resources. I've heard that have good support for 64b, you might find a 64b wine thingie somewhere in their resources that you could use
[07:44] <Madpilot> dirkson: getting the package thru Synaptic will let Synaptic get the other packages that that one might depend on
[07:44] <marko> darn :/
[07:44] <DShepherd> Silencer: have you tried asking our good fren?
[07:44] <Stormx2> apt-get remove <java package name>
[07:44] <g|patrick> whcih command give acess to the timezone configuration?
[07:44] <Stormx2> g|patrick: No idea
[07:44] <marko> yeah well if I use a 32b OS on my 64b AMD (which is a shame) I will get rid of all these problems :p
[07:44] <Silencer> DShepherd, u mean on MAN and or DOC ? :)
[07:44] <DShepherd> Silencer: nope Google :)
[07:44] <Silencer> o that
[07:44] <Silencer> :)
[07:44] <Silencer> eheheheh
[07:44] <dirkson> Madpilot: Ahhh, ok. Unfortunately, not going to work.... Time to try that package site. Prolly gonna barf my connection Thanks a lot!
[07:44] <Orborde> marko: Unless you're like me and get hit by the double clock speed AMD64 kernel bug :)
[07:44] <BLOOD|walqN> hi .. hm .. i have a problem .. everytime i want to install Ubutu i get an error that linux-386 package cant be installed ! Need help :(
[07:44] <dducko> g|patrick, if you right click on the clock you can change it through preferences
[07:44] <teo_> stormx2: that applies even if i installed using the installer from sun directly right?
[07:44] <marko> lol
[07:45] <marko> double clock speed?
[07:45] <marko> sounds nice :)
[07:45] <Stormx2> teo_: Don't think so
[07:45] <dducko> BLOOD|walqN, What are you installing it on?
[07:45] <foampeace> hello
[07:45] <tastyratz> is there something I can type in manually to pull it up?
[07:45] <dirkson> Marko: I know :) I'll be fighting the same battle. I'm running 64b ubuntu. Don't need wine, though, which is nice
[07:45] <foampeace> is there a better download manager then d4x?
[07:45] <Stormx2> Orborde: There is a how-to on ubuntuforums.org on how to stop double clock speed
[07:45] <teo_> stormx2: hmm then how should i remove java then?
[07:45] <BLOOD|walqN> dducko dont understand what you mean :/
[07:45] <marko> do you use anything else to emulate crappy win32 api?
[07:45] <foampeace> d4x is ugly...its embarassing on the desktop
[07:45] <raghuh> Secreth`X, sorry disconnected
[07:45] <dirkson> Marko: You -might- also try a windows emulator. The help file in ubuntu has a couple it reccomends
[07:45] <Secreth`X> Yay.. (sarcasm) Another error from installing Ubuntu: The installer cannot figure out how to install the base system. No Installable CD-Rom was found and no valid mirrir was configured.
[07:45] <Orborde> Stormx2: Yeah...it fraggles my networking if I'm on a 32bit kernel
[07:45] <Secreth`X> any suggestions?
[07:46] <Secreth`X> no problem raghu
[07:46] <dducko> Secreth`X, Do you have it in the First CD Drive in the chain?
[07:46] <foampeace> maybe someone can give d4x a facelift
[07:46] <Orborde> Stormx2: It fixes it if I'm running 64bit kernel, but applications still don't support 64bit. Sad face.
[07:46] <dducko> Or only one Drive?
[07:46] <Secreth`X> yes dducko
[07:46] <dirkson> Marko: Me? Naw. I don't need Win. Only thing it has that Linux doesn't is games, and I've given those up.
[07:46] <marko> well I'd like to run a couple
[07:46] <marko> I'm not a big player
[07:46] <marko> but wouldn't mind having a few running under linux :)
[07:46] <dducko> Hmm..  I got that error and changed CD drives and it worked.
[07:46] <Orborde> dirkson: Yeah, switching to Linux has probably kept my grades from going completely down the tubes.
[07:47] <Secreth`X> changed?
[07:47] <BLOOD|walqN> dducko: no i have 2 drives .. im installing it on the second ..
[07:47] <Secreth`X> How do you mean?
[07:47] <marko> anyhow
[07:47] <Secreth`X> get it out and put it in the other?
[07:47] <Ratzilla> go dual boot if you want games :D
[07:47] <Orborde> marko: Well, there's always the FOSS selection :)
[07:47] <dirkson> Marko: *chuckes* True :)
[07:47] <g|patrick> weired... cant create folders on sdb2
[07:47] <marko> FOSS?
[07:47] <Madpilot> marko: Enemy Territory has a Linux-native free version, if you want to shoot things ;)
[07:47] <dducko> Secreth`X, yeah try that
[07:47] <g|patrick> nor can i delete or drag stuff from there
[07:47] <Secreth`X> ok dducko
[07:47] <dirkson> Orborde: Well, I still kinda kept one game ^^ It runs on Linux.
[07:47] <dducko> BLOOD|walqN, not sure on yours
[07:47] <foampeace> why doesnt linux have a good download manager
[07:47] <marko> yeah I already have Enemy territory & quake 3 running fine
[07:47] <Orborde> marko: Free and Open Source Software
[07:47] <g|patrick> filesystem is ext3
[07:47] <Ep|phany> does anyone know how i can get plugins for totem movie player?
[07:47] <marko> but can't get half lide 2 going without an emulator
[07:47] <Orborde> dirkson: What game?
[07:47] <marko> :s
[07:47] <dducko> BLOOD|walqN, Possibly a bad CD?
[07:47] <Orborde> Ep|phany: What are you looking for?
[07:47] <Ep|phany> dvd codec
[07:47] <Secreth`X> dducko: during the install?
[07:48] <BLOOD|walqN> dducko: so should i try an other CD Drive ?
[07:48] <Ep|phany> it says i need a plugin
[07:48] <marko> right gtg for dinner
[07:48] <BLOOD|walqN> dducko: i've tried 3 different ones :/
[07:48] <dirkson> Orborde: Bridge construction set. No-name developers. Quite possibly the best $20 I ever spent. I love that game.
[07:48] <CorruptedMind> Ep|phany : the mepg ones ?
[07:48] <kowa> what did i wrong???
[07:48] <marko> thanks again for all ur adive guys
[07:48] <Ep|phany> yea
[07:48] <kowa> /home/kowa/kylix3/bin/delphi: relocation error: /home/kowa/kylix3/bin/libwine.borland.so: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[07:48] <marko> c ya later :)
[07:48] <Orborde> Ep|phany: libdvdcss, I think...
[07:48] <g|patrick> marcels: hl2 uses directx
[07:48] <dv> hmm
[07:48] <dirkson> Marko: Np, see ya'!
[07:48] <Ep|phany> k should i search for it synaptic?
[07:48] <dducko> Secreth`X, You can try it from the begining
[07:48] <Orborde> dirkson: Website you could give me?
[07:48] <dv> in qtorrent it is impossible to specify the port?
[07:48] <g|patrick> marko: hl2 uses direct x
[07:48] <dducko> BLOOD|walqN, what is your Processor?
[07:48] <Secreth`X> dducko: I have to install CD's
[07:48] <g|patrick> u need cedega to run it wihtin linux
[07:48] <Secreth`X> If I put it in the other now
[07:48] <CorruptedMind> Ep|phany : yea , lt call libmepg2
[07:48] <Secreth`X> could it work then?
[07:49] <Ep|phany> k
[07:49] <Orborde> Ep|phany: Try Synaptic, yeah, but I'm not sure whether it's there.
[07:49] <Ep|phany> thanks
[07:49] <BLOOD|walqN> dducko: AMD 2400+
[07:49] <dducko> Secreth`X, How many CD Drives do you have?
[07:49] <Secreth`X> 2
[07:49] <kowa> ??
[07:49] <dirkson> Orborde: Hmm..... Not right now, my connection barfs when I try to use the web. Just try putting in "Bridge construction set" or "pontifex II" into google. Keep in mind, though, that it is a paid game.
[07:49] <dducko> BLOOD|walqN, were the CDs all burnt from the same download?
[07:49] <BLOOD|walqN> they are original ..
[07:50] <BLOOD|walqN> i ordered them from ubuntulinux.org
[07:50] <ispiked> dducko: *burned
[07:50] <dducko> Anyone else got a clue why he cant install the 386 package?
[07:50] <Kououken> I'm still trying to get Ubuntu set up with rsa keys.. the public key goes in /root/.ssh/ and the private gets used by putty on say, a windows machine, right?  Sorry for the simple question, but googling isn't bringing up much for Ubuntu, and there's nothing in the Wiki ,' /
[07:50] <dducko> ispiked, Sorry.
[07:50] <dducko> *smiles*
[07:50] <BLOOD|walqN> help pls :(
[07:51] <dducko> American, I dont speak proper english..
[07:51] <Secreth`X> dducko: forget to mention, I have 2 but one it broken I think.
[07:51] <dducko> Secreth`X, Disconnect it from the computer, the IDE cable,  When I tried to install once I had
[07:52] <Orborde> Kououken: Might want to go check the doccies for your SSH implementations.
[07:52] <BLOOD|walqN> anyone got knowledgement on PACKAGE linux-386 ?!
[07:52] <dirkson> Orborde: It is a really cool game, though. On my first day, I played it for about eight hours straight : ) Who needs Rome total War? I'm makin' a bridge!!
[07:52] <dducko> The cd in my second drive and it wouldnt look to it
[07:52] <trappist> Kououken: your public and private keys go in .ssh.  your public key goes in the authorized_keys file on the remote box
[07:52] <Ep|phany> i installed libmpeg2.4 but totem still wont play my dvds
[07:52] <raghuh> kowa: export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.19 and try
[07:52] <dducko> When it came to the package part.
[07:52] <dducko> !dvd
[07:52] <Ep|phany> it sasy i need a corresponding plugin
[07:52] <Orborde> dirkson: I've been addicted to supertux lately....
[07:52] <BLOOD|walqN> dducko: should i try to use my other CD drive ?
[07:52] <Secreth`X> ok dducko
[07:53] <dducko> BLOOD|walqN, You could, you might have a bad drive, but I was refering to Sec's problem
[07:53] <CorruptedMind> Ep|phany: i just got the solution
[07:53] <Ep|phany> what isi t?
[07:53] <BLOOD|walqN> dducko .. ok i will try it - cya
[07:53] <BLOOD|walqN> thanks :)
[07:54] <dirkson> Orborde: What's supertux?
[07:54] <Orborde> dirkson: apt-get install supertux :)
[07:54] <highvoltage> dirkson: a fun mario-brothers-like game
[07:54] <highvoltage> platform scroller
[07:55] <Ep|phany> CorruptedMind whats the solution?
[07:55] <dirkson> Orborde: Ahh, cool : ) I can't apt-get yet. Barfs my connection. Most things besides instant messanging barf my connection
[07:55] <DShepherd> link to Ubuntu Starter guide for breezy please..thank you
[07:55] <Orborde> dirkson: Poor baby.
[07:55] <dirkson> Orborde: This is why I so desparately need to recompile the kernel. I NEED 2.6.13 at least.
[07:55] <Orborde> dirkson: wtf is wrong with your connection, anyway?
[07:56] <Ep|phany> anyone know how i can play a dvd using vlc media player
[07:57] <DShepherd> Ep|phany: File -> Open disc
[07:57] <dirkson> Orborde: Er.... That's a bit hard to explain. It's a wireless modem running off the verizon wireless network. It's designed for EVDOx1, (~800kbits/second internet) and I'm in an EVDOx1 area, but without the newer kernel, it barfs at speeds above normal network speeds (~100kbits/second)
[07:57] <Ep|phany> yea it doesnt open
[07:57] <DShepherd> and type...
[07:57] <Ep|phany> i dont know my device name
[07:57] <DShepherd> ----/dev/hdX
[07:58] <DShepherd> "/dev/hdX"
[07:58] <Orborde> dirkson: Weird.
[07:58] <DShepherd> Ep|phany: with out the quotes.
[07:58] <dirkson> Orborde: So when I recieve too much data at the same time, it tries to bump up to EVDOx1 speeds, and barfs my connection, and I have to restart
[07:58] <Ep|phany> i type that in vlc?
[07:58] <Orborde> dirkson: Well, start downloading?
[07:58] <akurashy> Hey is there a way to make mplayer Full Screen with the video too
[07:58] <DShepherd> Ep|phany: is the hdc is that's your drive...
[07:58] <akurashy> i press full screen but the video is little
[07:58] <Orborde> dirkson: I think there are bandwidth regulating programs you can use...
[07:58] <Ep|phany> what?
[07:58] <Orborde> dirkson: But if you can't download them, you're kind of SOL :(
[07:59] <dirkson> Orborde: Naw. The new kernel will fix my issues. I've just got to get it to compile :D
[07:59] <daved-> anyone know anything about xen?
[07:59] <Ep|phany> its still not working with /dev/hdX
[07:59] <Secreth`X> dducko
[07:59] <Secreth`X> I love you
[07:59] <Secreth`X> (l)
[07:59] <Ceddy23> hey people
[07:59] <DShepherd> Ep|phany: hdx =  hdc if hdc is the your cd drive
[07:59] <Orborde> Naptime!
[07:59] <Kououken> Can I generate an rsa key for no username/password login for root?
[07:59] <Silencer> damn
[07:59] <Silencer> again
[07:59] <Ep|phany> still not working
[07:59] <Silencer> he beck my timezone to europe/sarajevo
[07:59] <dirkson> Orborde: This IRC stuff is giving my a headache. Do you have AIM?
[07:59] <Silencer> why ubuntu do that :(
[07:59] <Orborde> dirkson: Yes
[08:00] <Ceddy23> where can i get drivers if ubuntu doesn't recognize my modem ???
[08:00] <Ep|phany> nevermind i got it to work
[08:00] <Ceddy23> it's a good old 56k :p
[08:00] <dirkson> Orborde: dirksonii on aim. message me
[08:00] <nathan__> Ceddy23, if its a winmodem it will never work
[08:00] <Ceddy23> why not ?
[08:00] <Orborde> dirkson: But I'm going to go take a nap now, and then I have class.
[08:00] <DShepherd> Ep|phany: ok...have fun!!
[08:00] <nathan__> Ceddy23, because they're called winmodems for a reason :)
[08:00] <dirkson> Orborde: *laughs* Fair enough. It was nice talking with ya'.
[08:00] <Ceddy23> ah...good point
[08:00] <Ceddy23> lol
[08:00] <Ep|phany> dshepard im still having problems
[08:00] <Ep|phany> the dvd kind of lags
[08:01] <Ep|phany> every couple seconds
[08:01] <Ceddy23> is there any version of linux that will work with a winmodem ?
[08:01] <DShepherd> oh ok...you on ubuntu right?
[08:01] <Ep|phany> it like pauses kinda
[08:01] <Ep|phany> and is really jerky
[08:01] <DShepherd> breezy that is
[08:01] <nathan__> Ceddy23, nope, or any other OS other than windows
[08:01] <Ceddy23> so i'll have to get a new modem then
[08:02] <Ep|phany> any ideas?
[08:02] <nathan__> Ceddy23, well you could do a 'lspci' to identify the chipset then google to find out :)
[08:02] <dducko> Secreth`X, Yes?
[08:03] <Ceddy23> i'm pretty new to this linux thing lol
[08:03] <Secreth`X> dducko: I love you
[08:03] <DShepherd> Ep|phany: yeah..give me  sec
[08:03] <Secreth`X> I got it working
[08:03] <Ep|phany> k
[08:03] <Secreth`X> At least I think..
[08:03] <dducko> Secreth`X, lol Glad it worked.
[08:03] <Ceddy23> lspci u say hey
[08:03] <Ceddy23> lemme try that right now
[08:03] <Secreth`X> Its installing it
[08:03] <dirkson> Ceddy23: Type it into the terminal
[08:03] <Secreth`X> It just was a bios fault btw..
[08:03] <Secreth`X> I had the broken CD Drive as main
[08:03] <dducko> Ahh I see.
[08:03] <dirkson> Ceddy23: Then it'll barf back all the stuff attached to the PCI
[08:03] <Secreth`X> and then the normal one :)
[08:04] <dirkson> Ceddy23: Including what chipset your modem it! ^.^
[08:04] <dducko> yep and it only looks to that one.. scared me the first tiem it did it.
[08:04] <Ceddy23> ok
[08:04] <dirkson> Ceddy23: *is, not it
[08:04] <Ceddy23> me and my roomate are rebuilding an old system 1.2 Ghz
[08:04] <Secreth`X> It didnt scared me. Im used to some abnormal behavior of my PC :)
[08:04] <dducko> Ubotu's dead?
[08:04] <Ceddy23> I know i have a Rockwell 56k
[08:04] <Secreth`X> yea wanna know that too
[08:05] <Secreth`X> where is ubotu? :(
[08:05] <DShepherd> Ep|phany: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-389f8b000408629ef4fbb99723cfe0133fe31e7e <--- should help
[08:05] <dirkson> Ceddy23: Well, everyone online will be using its -exact- linux chipset, so finding that and copy/pasting into google becomes very, very useful
[08:05] <DShepherd> Ep|phany: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA <== this is wat u really want
[08:05] <Ep|phany> okay thanks
[08:05] <Corrupted> why when I try to burn a iso with the gui burning tool, it just burn one line on my CD-R ?
[08:05] <Ep|phany> let me read it
[08:05] <dducko> Ep|phany, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[08:05] <dirkson> Ceddy23: I had to do basically the same with with a weird TI carbus controller my laptop has. Wow did that turn into a headache
[08:06] <Ceddy23> i can imagine!
[08:06] <lsuactiafner> can linux read ppt files?
[08:06] <Ceddy23> been trying to understand linux for abt 3 weeks now
[08:06] <Ceddy23> but on and off in btw work
[08:06] <dirkson> Ceddy23: It's hard : ) I'm unemployed, so I have some spare time.... I was a total n00b two days ago : )
[08:07] <Rockett18> lsuactiafner> OpenOffice.org Present can open them
[08:07] <Secreth`X> I still am dirkson, lol
[08:08] <dirkson> Ceddy23: Installing apps still greatly confuses me, but at least I know something about the file systems, and how to use the command line
[08:08] <nathan__> Ceddy23, oh i almost forgot to mention it /might/ be possible to get it working with linuxant
[08:08] <dirkson> Secreth: *laughs* I think I am too, but I'm not as -much- of a total n00b as I was two days ago :D
[08:09] <dducko> this channel is a great place to learn, just watching and reading
[08:09] <Blissex> the key to no being a n00b is to read a number of HOWTOs/tutorials/books :-)
[08:09] <dducko> And taht too.
[08:09] <snorks_> books own
[08:09] <dducko> that*
[08:09] <Blissex> dducko: :-)
[08:09] <Corrupted> why when I try to burn a iso with the gui burning tool, it just burn one line on my CD-R and stop ?
[08:09] <El_Che> how to post bugs to universe packages?
[08:10] <Secreth`X> I still have one question. I'm now install Ubuntu, its still running. But I have a network over here. Will I get internet or do I need to set up things?
[08:10] <dducko> bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[08:10] <Blissex> Corrupted: what do you mean by just burn one line?
[08:10] <Blissex> Corrupted: also, more details pls, consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask informative questions...
[08:11] <dducko> Secreth`X, Do you have a DHCP enabled router?
[08:11] <Corrupted> it just write some garbage date on my cd
[08:11] <DShepherd> does anyone else think that finding stuff at wiki.ubuntu.com is  hard!!
[08:11] <Secreth`X> dducko: Honestly I'm guessing when I say yes.
[08:11] <Tronex> Does anyone of you have experiences with synchronizing a motorola v600 via USB on an ubuntu workstation? ;-)
[08:11] <El_Che> dducko: no that's main
[08:11] <dducko> Secreth`X, Most likely you do, most are.  It should alraedy be going.
[08:11] <Secreth`X> Ok Ill check it out
[08:12] <james_> Hello folks. When I've created a connection to a Windows share using the 'Places' menu in Gnome, where in the filesystem is that share mounted?
[08:12] <dirkson> Tronex: I have some experience getting a Verizon 620 modem card to work. Kinda the same thing? :D
[08:13] <Secreth`X> dducko: Is there any way to check it out? I don't want another surprise
[08:13] <SepheeBear> james_: it's under /media/,sharename>
[08:13] <DShepherd> can anyone point me to the link for Ubuntu Starter guide for breezY?
[08:13] <Tronex> dirkson: I guess not. I once got the internal modem to work, so I could connect to Internet via GPRS, but I need to get the calendaring and addressbook function to work...
[08:13] <Corrupted> nevermind , i will use the good old cdrecord program instead
[08:13] <Blissex> Corrupted: but all GUI frontends use 'cdrecord'...
[08:13] <dirkson> Tronex: Ahhh, yes, that would be different
[08:14] <Corrupted> yep, i know but when i use the gui, it just bug
[08:14] <SepheeBear> james_: oops that was wrong if you connect to a windows share using the Places menu, it never gets mounted to the filesystem. it gets soft-mounted using gnome-vfs
[08:15] <dirkson> Ok.... I downloaded a .deb from the packages website. How do I install that thing?
[08:15] <Habbie> dirkson, dpkg -i
[08:15] <dirkson> Thanks : )
[08:15] <Ep|phany> when im adding those lines to my hdparm.conf do i have to add the # infront of them?
[08:15] <Tronex> dirkson: dpgk -i <packagename>
[08:16] <dirkson> *laughs* Thanks Tronex too : )
[08:16] <SepheeBear> if you want a harder mount use mount -t smbfs //server/share /media/share and "share" will show up in the places menu
[08:16] <El_Che> so no bugzilla for universe packages?
[08:16] <Ep|phany> can anyone help me?
[08:16] <james_> will do. Thanks. I'll give it a go.
[08:16] <DShepherd> can anyone point me to the link for Ubuntu Starter guide for breezY?
[08:17] <Seveas> DShepherd, http://help.ubuntu.com
[08:17] <topyli> what a disappointment. i'm writing my first audio cd
[08:17] <DShepherd> Seveas: thanks
[08:17] <Corrupted> what is the name of GUI cd frontend program ?
[08:17] <topyli> 's on breezy and serpentine failed
[08:17] <Ep|phany> Dpsheperd when im adding lines to hdparm.conf do i have to put # in front of my new lines?
[08:17] <SepheeBear> Ep|phany: adding the '#' in front will make the lines you just added inactive
[08:17] <Ep|phany> oh okay
[08:17] <Ep|phany> so i just leave it as is?
[08:18] <g|patrick> thx for helping...
[08:18] <g|patrick> have to leave
[08:18] <g|patrick> bye
[08:18] <SepheeBear> Ep|phany: which lines are we talking about?
[08:19] <Ep|phany> umm i have to add /dev/hdc{ and then next line dma=on and then next line }
[08:19] <andrew_> I noticed in the update today a redhat package manager (rpm). What exactly does this do?
[08:19] <Secreth`X> Is there any way to check out if my network has DHCP anabled?? I don't want another surprise
[08:20] <Secreth`X> enabled*
[08:20] <dirkson> umm......... Ok, it says that the dkpg command cannot be found... What stupid thing have I done this time? : )
[08:20] <dducko> What machine are you on OS?
[08:20] <Secreth`X> now? Windows.
[08:20] <dducko> XP?
[08:20] <Secreth`X> Correct.
[08:20] <dducko> Go to the Network cards
[08:20] <Ep|phany> sorry i got disconecte
[08:21] <Secreth`X> Ok. There.
[08:21] <dducko> Umm.. yikes its been awhile.. umm Right Click and Properties,
[08:21] <Secreth`X> :) Take your time
[08:21] <DShepherd> Silencer: luck!! http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#fg-troubleshooting
[08:21] <dducko> Go to the TCP/IP connect and highlight it and Click Properties below it
[08:21] <Secreth`X> ok there
[08:21] <Secreth`X> ok
[08:22] <DShepherd> Silencer: I havent tried it my self...just found it
[08:22] <SepheeBear> Ep|phany:  add "/dev/hdc { dma=on }"
[08:22] <dducko> Is it set to use DHCP or is it manually configured?
[08:22] <SepheeBear> all can be one line
[08:22] <Silencer> hmmm
[08:22] <Silencer> ql
[08:22] <Silencer> :)
[08:22] <Silencer> thx
[08:22] <dducko> DHCP is a checkbox up at the top I believe
[08:22] <Silencer> man
[08:22] <Secreth`X> err
[08:23] <Secreth`X> Its DCHP :)
[08:23] <Ennei> evening
[08:23] <Secreth`X> GREAT!
[08:23] <dducko> Ok, nevermind that we can look to the Router.. Ahh good.
[08:23] <DShepherd> Silencer: by the way..you still have the problem right
[08:23] <Secreth`X> Thanks dducko :)
[08:23] <Silencer> umm
[08:23] <Silencer> dono
[08:23] <Silencer> sec
[08:23] <dducko> Welcome
[08:23] <dirkson> umm......... Ok, it says that the dkpg command cannot be found... What stupid thing have I done this time? : )
[08:23] <Corrupted> where I could find a good Howto for burning CD with the ubuntu gui tool ?
[08:23] <dducko> Typo dirkson its dpkg
[08:24] <Ennei> well, Ubuntu has built in help
[08:24] <gouchi> Hi
[08:24] <Ennei> try that
[08:24] <dirkson> *laughs* Well, at least I new it was a stupid thing, no? :)
[08:24] <gouchi> is there page where we can ask for request package ?
[08:24] <Corrupted> it's not complete enough
[08:24] <Secreth`X> dducko: Found it on my router page too. Its DCHP Enabled :)
[08:24] <dducko> Yep figured it was,
[08:25] <Corrupted> something with a error FAQ
[08:25] <sorush20> how can I increase the size of the images on the handouts in impress
[08:25] <Secreth`X> Thanks dude
[08:25] <andrew_> what can we do now with the rpm package manager that was in the update today?
[08:25] <dducko> Ok time for lunch, good luck with everything Secreth`X
[08:25] <Silencer> dam
[08:25] <Silencer> DShepherd, he still change my timezone
[08:25] <Ep|phany> hi i enabled dma but now when my movie is playing theres no sound
[08:26] <Ep|phany> but i get sound on the menu and stuff
[08:26] <Ennei> well it probably wasn't DMA then
[08:26] <Ennei> is your sound card configured? Can you play other sounds?
[08:26] <Secreth`X> zomg
[08:26] <Secreth`X> NEAT!
[08:26] <Ep|phany> yea
[08:26] <Secreth`X> Its working
[08:26] <DShepherd> Silencer: ok oh....well this may work..http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2524667
[08:26] <Ep|phany> i was getting the movie sound like 2 seconds ago
[08:26] <dducko> cool
[08:26] <Ep|phany> just stoped working all of a sudden
[08:26] <Silencer> :)
[08:26] <Silencer> hehehehee
[08:26] <Ennei> do you have a cheap horrible sound card?
[08:27] <Ep|phany> its a laptop
[08:27] <Ep|phany> so i have no cluelol
[08:27] <Ennei> heh, me too then
[08:27] <Corrupted> why the cd I burn are slow to read ?
[08:27] <Ennei> it's not a Thinkpad X24 is it?
[08:27] <dirkson> Ok, this is kooky...... The ncurses-dev has a 64 bit version, but is compiled for the i386, but the normal one is compiled for the AMD64....... Crazy!
[08:27] <Secreth`X> Ohh dducko I love you :D
[08:27] <kemik> !skype
[08:28] <kemik> !skype
[08:28] <kemik> ubotu !
[08:28] <kemik> oh damn
[08:28] <dirkson> Oh man! It's 1.3 MB! I'll never get it without net connection barfage!
[08:28] <dirkson> a few hundred k scared me!
[08:28] <dirkson> 700........
[08:28] <dirkson> 800......... freezing, freezing....
[08:29] <Ennei> heh, good luck with that
[08:29] <dirkson> YES! YES! I got it!! *grin*
[08:30] <sledge__> hello
[08:30] <Xappe> kemik: what about skype?
[08:30] <sledge__> how come breezy is runnign 2.6.12 and the most recent kernel soruce package on the apt-repositores is 2.6.11
[08:31] <kemik> Xappe:  it has broken dependencies
[08:31] <x86i> Amaranth: You here?
[08:31] <Amaranth> x86i: yep
[08:31] <kemik> depends on some QT lib, installing it doesnt help
[08:31] <kemik> ...
[08:31] <dirkson> And I'm in! Now all I have to do is recompile.......my........kernel...................... Oh, man, I'm doomed.
[08:32] <x86i> Amaranth: I figured out something new. If you do the expert installtion, and setup users in the installer menu, that Gnome problem happens. However, if you just skip creating users, and let the system prompt you for your normal user account, the problem is fixed.
[08:32] <Amaranth> file a bug
[08:32] <kemik> Xappe:  solutions ?
[08:32] <ranf> sledge__, use "linux-source.."
[08:32] <x86i> Will do
[08:33] <Xappe> kemik: what's the problem?
[08:33] <kemik> Xappe:  [20:31:20]  kemik depends on some QT lib, installing it doesnt help
[08:34] <x86i> Amaranth: Where can I file the bug at?
[08:34] <kemik> libqt3c102-mt to be specific
[08:34] <kemik> and installing libqt3-mt doesnt help
[08:34] <Amaranth> x86i: file it at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com against the ubuntu product, 5.10 version, debian-installer package
[08:34] <sledge__> oh
[08:34] <silversurfer> there is a -dev version of it?
[08:34] <sledge__> thanks dude!
[08:34] <sledge__> i was doing kernel-source
[08:34] <Secreth`X> How to share a folder in Ubuntu (Share it to the network)
[08:34] <kemik> Secreth`X:  set up samba or nfs
[08:35] <Xappe> kemik: hang on I have a link for you...just have to reboot into linux
[08:35] <Secreth`X> kemik: I'll try. I only have Ubuntu for 10 minutes :P
[08:37] <sorush20> when I change form a four slide hand out to a a six or vice verse there is no change in the size of the slides on the computer so what should I do how can I make the four slides on the four slide hand out bigger?
[08:39] <Ep|phany> is it possible to play pc games on a linux system?
[08:39] <dducko> Ep|phany, Some,  And some through Wine/Cedega
[08:39] <dducko> A game In Particular?
[08:39] <Ep|phany> i wanted to play age of the empires 3 and the new matrix game
[08:40] <Xappe> kemik: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=376677&postcount=41
[08:40] <Ep|phany> whats wine/cedega
[08:40] <dducko> Windows Emmulation
[08:40] <mason> I'm hoping someone could help me. I'm trying to compile xvid 1.1.0 but the make is failing. I believe its because of GCC 4.x but I don't know how to force it to use GCC 3.x
[08:40] <kemik> ty Xappe
[08:40] <Ep|phany> does it work well?
[08:40] <Xappe> kemik: np
[08:40] <BockBilbo> hey
[08:40] <BockBilbo> one quick question
[08:40] <DShepher1> Silencer: utc. What does it mean?
[08:41] <Silencer> DShepher I dono
[08:41] <Silencer> :)
[08:41] <Silencer> ehehheheehe
[08:41] <BockBilbo> am I the only one whose firefox gets frozen when opening a website with a flash animation which has music?
[08:41] <dducko> Ep|phany, I havent used either, so I cant tell you for sure.  But I think it runs decent. Cedega is a gaming version of Wine.
[08:41] <DShepher1> Silencer: Coordinated Universal Time :)
[08:41] <sorush20> when I change form a four slide hand out to a a six or vice verse there is no change in the size of the slides on the computer so what should I do how can I make the four slides on the four slide hand out bigger?
[08:41] <dducko> BockBilbo, Only if it has sound?
[08:41] <Ep|phany> okay
[08:42] <yohan> what video player do you use?
[08:42] <k3nny> hi@all
[08:42] <yohan> please!
[08:42] <k3nny> could anybody help me with my wlan connection and internetaccess?
[08:42] <BockBilbo> dducko, yes
[08:42] <yohan> vlc good or mppalyer?
[08:42] <DShepher1> totem
[08:43] <BockBilbo> yohan, i use both
[08:43] <BockBilbo> vlc and mplayer
[08:43] <sensoph> i like vlc personally but yeah i use both
[08:43] <BockBilbo> dducko it gets frozen when opening only flash sites with music..
[08:43] <BockBilbo> back in hoary i did that trick of making a sim link to libesd.0
[08:43] <mason> Does anyone know about GCC 4.x?
[08:43] <BockBilbo> but now doesnt work
[08:43] <BockBilbo> ...
[08:44] <k3nny> could anybody please help me with my wlan connection and internetaccess?
[08:44] <dducko> BockBilbo, Havent ran into that yet, I had the problem when I had bad video drivers.. but all flash killed it
[08:44] <dducko> I know the totem plugin is bad for firefox in breezy
[08:44] <dducko> Hang on a sec..
[08:45] <martix> hey guys
[08:45] <Ep|phany> do you guys know where i could find cedega
[08:45] <Secreth`X> brb
[08:45] <martix> Is there any p2p program like emule for ubuntu 5.1?
[08:45] <sensoph> transgaming.com but unless you use the cvs you have to pay a subscription fee
[08:45] <k3nny> ive configured wlan via wpa, i can connect to my router but not to the internet
[08:45] <Ep|phany> sensoph are you talking to me?
[08:45] <Dshepherd> martii: amule
[08:46] <martix> but I cant find it using synapctic
[08:46] <sensoph> yes ep try transgaming.com for cedega
[08:46] <Dshepherd> you need to enable universe and mulltiverse
[08:46] <jareth_> martix: try gtk-gnutella
[08:46] <Ep|phany> k
[08:46] <Ep|phany> do you use it?
[08:46] <Madpilot> martix: you need to enable the Universe repo - that's where amule is
[08:47] <sensoph> well i intend to once i get my stupid ati card to work
[08:47] <Ep|phany> okay
[08:47] <Ep|phany> thanks
[08:47] <martix> Madpilot: how can I do that?
[08:47] <x86i> Amaranth: Alright, bug submitted. thanks for the pointer
[08:47] <silversurfer> how to customize the loaded modules for every boot?
[08:47] <k3nny> could anybody please help me with my wlan connection and internetaccess?
[08:47] <martix> jareth_: I cant find gtk-gnutella
[08:48] <Madpilot> martix: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:48] <jareth_> martix :listen to Dshepherd
[08:48] <Secreth`X> Ok back
[08:48] <Secreth`X> I can't seem to get samba up, neither NFS
[08:48] <Secreth`X> Plus I even can't find my way up to the Terminal o_O!
[08:48] <k3nny> server irc.afterworkchat.com
[08:49] <martix> Madpilot: thanks
[08:49] <silversurfer> how to customize the loaded modules for every boot?
[08:49] <Dshepherd> martix: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#addinguniverse
[08:50] <teo> how do i remoe the default java supplied by ubuntu?
[08:50] <snorks_> lol on it
[08:51] <teo> what do u mean?
[08:51] <snorks_> lol -a
[08:51] <anavim> where do I set my quit message in x-chat?
[08:52] <snorks_> i bet slash quit <reason>
[08:52] <Octane2> anyone know how to kill a screen session
[08:52] <snorks_> killall <pid number>
[08:53] <snorks_> or kill 9
[08:53] <snorks_> or kill -kill
[08:53] <Secreth`X> dducko: still here?
[08:53] <mason> I found the solution to the GCC problem. Using export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.3 in the folder forced the make command to use gcc 3.3
[08:55] <bimberi> teo: sudo aptitude remove s2jre1.4
[08:55] <bimberi> teo: sry, should be    sudo aptitude remove j2re1.4
[08:56] <martix> Madpilot: thanks! i soved the problem
[08:57] <Kovecses> how can I run alsaconf?
[08:57] <WildZeck> run it ?
[08:57] <Kovecses> cant in ubuntu
[08:57] <snorks_> of course you can
[08:57] <johnny2005> where can i get blackbox-menu
[08:57] <WildZeck> download source
[08:57] <snorks_> i just dont know how
[08:57] <WildZeck> compile it
[08:58] <Kovecses> snorks_, not by default
[08:58] <dducko> Secreth`X, Yeah
[08:58] <snorks_> call me supersnorks thx
[08:58] <Kovecses> WildZeck, yup thats what im gonna have to do
[08:58] <Secreth`X> Is it possible to have a network with windows and add a Ubuntu user in it? (sorry for the strange sentence :x)
[08:58] <trappist> I'm going to fire ubuntu's package maintaner for alsa
[08:58] <flogiston> I cant run ssh server on my computer.
[08:58] <trappist> maintainer
[08:58] <WildZeck> Secreth`X, yes with samba
[08:59] <flogiston> I get error message: cannot load ssh_host_keys
[08:59] <Secreth`X> WildZeck can you give me some more information about samba? I think I downloaded it with synaptic
[09:00] <Ceddy23> ok, dumb question coming up: i found drivers for my winmodem and there's on a floppy disk now as a .tar file
[09:00] <johnny2005> #blackbox
[09:00] <Ceddy23> now, how do i extract them and make them work with ubuntu ?? lol
[09:00] <WildZeck> flogiston, dpkg-reconfigure ssh
[09:00] <Kovecses> what is the difference between the cd iso and the dvd iso.... what packages are added to dvd?
[09:00] <snorks_> didnt think winmodems worked under linux
[09:00] <Ceddy23> 2 hours later :p
[09:00] <flogiston> WildZeck, thanks I'll try that
[09:00] <Answer> Anybody know what package has cool cursors like the crosshair or x ?
[09:00] <flipy> hi!
[09:01] <Kovecses> HI
[09:01] <WildZeck> Secreth`X, to join a domain with samba your user have to existe in the microsoft domain
[09:01] <dducko> Howdy
[09:01] <snorks_> HOOI FLIPY
[09:01] <flipy> is there a solution for the ide-cd problem on ubuntu breezy install cd?
[09:01] <Kovecses> ok im about to ditch debian and grab ubuntu
[09:01] <bimberi> Kovecses: the dvd is both live and linstall and i think the dvd has all the packages in the main repositories
[09:01] <snorks_> whats stopping you
[09:01] <flogiston> WildZeck: Still failing.
[09:01] <yohan> what video player do you guys use?
[09:01] <dducko> mplayer
[09:01] <Secreth`X> WildZeck: The group excists. But I think the user is not.
[09:02] <Ceddy23> snorks >>>> www.linmodems.org
[09:02] <flogiston> Is it something else that can be wrong?
[09:03] <WildZeck> Secreth`X, create user in microsoft windows
[09:03] <WildZeck> before
[09:03] <yohan> i tried player but its all ugly, is there no gtk2 version?
[09:03] <kowa> hello
[09:03] <flogiston> yohan: vlc
[09:03] <Secreth`X> WildZeck yeah but how? Im such a noob on those things..
[09:03] <snorks_> heheh
[09:04] <kowa> ive a problem....if i compile my kylix 3 my computer dont work anymore
[09:04] <Octane2> anyone know how to kill a session with a screen
[09:04] <meatwad64> ok i'm having issues with my touchpad still
[09:04] <meatwad64> i think its an alps one? which is synaptics?
[09:04] <snorks_> caress it
[09:04] <meatwad64> dmesg says compaq touchscreen output or something like that
[09:04] <Kovecses> ok while downloading the iso let me get up to speed.....
[09:04] <Kovecses> !multiverse
[09:04] <yohan> flogiston: mine is all ugly, can i get the gnome version somewhere?
[09:05] <flogiston> Change the settings to wxwidgets.
[09:05] <Kovecses> ooobooontooo
[09:05] <yohan> how do i do that?
[09:05] <meatwad64> nobody uses a alps touchpad with ubu?
[09:05] <meatwad64> ubuntu?
[09:06] <Ep|phany> does anyone here use par2
[09:06] <Ep|phany> it was wroking for me yesterday but now its messing up
[09:06] <Kovecses> what is the default email app in ubuntu
[09:06] <Kovecses> ?
[09:06] <linkd> evolution or something i think
[09:06] <highvoltage> evolution.
[09:06] <linkd> i just use thunderbird
[09:06] <cube> hello,i've a problem with kylix;can you help me?
[09:07] <flogiston> yohan: setting>preferense>interface>interfacemodule: skinneble
[09:07] <grodius> Does anyone know of a partitioning program so that I can make a windows partition?
[09:07] <spudse> how can I make an select option selected with javascript ?
[09:07] <Ep|phany> does anyoneknow hwo to run .debs
[09:07] <Kovecses> dpkg -i
[09:07] <SepheeBear> grodius:  fdisk
[09:07] <meatwad64> par 2 is the bomb
[09:07] <meatwad64> lol
[09:08] <ari123> someone could help me on installing driver for philips webcam ?
[09:08] <Ceddy23> how can i install my drivers onto ubuntu now ??? :s
[09:08] <spudse> sry wrong channel
[09:09] <yohan> flogiston: i tried that but it didnt work...
[09:09] <cube> if i want to compile a kylix project,the programm stays at this process all the time...what can I do?
[09:09] <flogiston> yohan: restart vlc
[09:09] <ari123> i find driver .but dunno how to install it
[09:09] <yohan> flogiston: i could load it, and now i have a different frondend but the options and everything is super ugly still
[09:09] <yohan> flogiston: cant i make it look like my gnome theme?
[09:10] <flogiston> does it looks like OSX? What do you considre nice/ugly?
[09:10] <ari123> http://www.pc-cameras.philips.com/index_drivers.html
[09:10] <flogiston> You have to searche for new themes.
[09:10] <grodius> sepheebear for windows machines? all i can find are for atari and acorn machines
[09:10] <Secreth`X> :x
[09:10] <anavim> I'm having serious trouble with my thinkpad t43 when I try to suspend or hibernate - I've lost my entire hard drive in the process.  Is there a known workaround?
[09:11] <sensoph> hey grodius are you wanting to actually format the hard drive ?
[09:11] <flogiston> yohan: rightclick on the player then chose open skin. Chose a skin that you like.
[09:11] <sensoph> create the file system and everything?
[09:11] <flogiston> you've got to download it first thoght,.
[09:12] <cusco> hi! how can I add an option to the sound juicer to rip the songs of teh cd to MP3 ??
[09:12] <cusco> or then, what is the best way to rip my cd songs into mp3 instead of ogg?
[09:13] <SGershon> :)
[09:13] <flogiston> INstall goobox.
[09:13] <Ep|phany> sweet i got cedega
[09:13] <SGershon> I want to thank everybody that helped me last week!
[09:13] <Ep|phany> hopefully games work with it
[09:13] <Secreth`X> Does someone has some time to help me out in private? :)
[09:13] <wezlo> hey all - is anyone else having overheating problems with breezy that didn't occur in hoary?
[09:13] <Blissex> Ep|phany: many do, and fairly well.
[09:14] <Blissex> Secreth`X: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask for help...
[09:14] <SGershon> After weeks of trials, my network works --> and with it my Dual-Monitor, My packages, my MPlayer. So thanks!
[09:14] <Kovecses> wezlo, no but strangly enough i did have that problem in hoary
[09:14] <wezlo> Kovecses, weird
[09:14] <Kovecses> yeah
[09:14] <wezlo> Kovecses, what kernel are you running?
[09:15] <Secreth`X> Blissex: o_O sorry I asked or something :x
[09:15] <Kovecses> wezlo, 2.6.12-686-smp  .........  not on my ubuntu machine so i dont know the exact kernel
[09:15] <wezlo> yah
[09:15] <SGershon> Today, I am in front of a new challenge: Use other language (in my case, hebrew) in the applications.
[09:15] <SGershon> Anybody did that?
[09:16] <Kovecses> anyone use serpentine yet?
[09:16] <wezlo> Kovecses, when I run that kernel, I get the overheating problems, when I run 2.6.10 - no problems
[09:16] <wezlo> it's like the fan decides to go away or something
[09:16] <Kovecses> hmm
[09:16] <borup> SGershon: sure - not Hebrew but uft8 covers hebrew
[09:17] <Kovecses> the thing that is weird about ubuntu is that by default anything after 2.6.10 detects my soundcard... but with ubuntu it doesnt
[09:17] <wezlo> I'm going to run another liveCD with the 2.6.12 kernel to see if it's just with breezy, or with the 2.6.12 tree
[09:17] <wezlo> yah
[09:18] <SGershon> borup: How would I do if I want to input hebrew in OpenOffice?
[09:18] <canindya> highvoltage, can anybody give me the breezy backports addresses?
[09:18] <wezlo> Kovecses, the bummer is that I've got 3d acceleration working in the 2.6.12 kernel!!!
[09:18] <Rev-Marc> is there a write up on how to speed up booting IE: removing the time syncing etc?
[09:18] <flipy> is there a solution for the ide-cd problem on ubuntu breezy install cd?
[09:18] <wezlo> SGershon you need to two two things
[09:18] <wezlo> Sgershon are you using gnome or kde?
[09:18] <Kovecses> wezlo, thats easy enough to use with the 2.6.10 kernel though
[09:18] <canindya> oops sorry highvoltage that was a generic question not to you only
[09:18] <highvoltage> canindya: i'm sure someone can.
[09:18] <SGershon> wezlo: gnome
[09:18] <highvoltage> canindya: ok :)
[09:19] <wezlo> Kovecses, nope - I need the k7 kernel or the module won't compile!
[09:19] <abarbaccia> hey all - can someone help explain this - i have a comptuer with only ubuntu on it.  I changed the cables for the CDROM + HDD and now on bootup it says DISK BOOT FAILURE  --  think it has something to do with master/slave or possibly the MBR?  I unplugged the cdrom drive and now its the only drive as primary master
[09:19] <Kovecses> wezlo, oh
[09:19] <wezlo> SGershon, ok, first you need to find the keyboard selector for gnome
[09:19] <canindya> abarbaccia, mostly master-slave
[09:19] <wezlo> not sure where it is because I'm in kde
[09:19] <flipy> does anyone had any trouble during Breezy installation and IDE-CD module???
[09:19] <abarbaccia> well it is the pri. master right now
[09:19] <Rev-Marc> is there a write up on how to speed up booting IE: removing the time syncing etc?
[09:20] <abarbaccia> canindya,
[09:20] <Madpilot> abarbaccia: did you change the jumpers on the back of the hard drive to match the cable positions?
[09:20] <wezlo> Sgershon, select hebrew as one of the keyboards
[09:20] <abarbaccia> I'm going to turn them all to cable select right now
[09:21] <borup> SGershon: if you add the Keyboard indicator applet to you panel - use that to change keyboard layout
[09:21] <wezlo> Sgershon, then you need to go into OOo go to tools ==> options and in that window select "language settings"
[09:21] <abarbaccia> oh boy! it was on Master (and then in small writing - with slave present)
[09:21] <abarbaccia> thanks Madpilot and canindya
[09:21] <canindya> abarbaccia, np
[09:21] <borup> SGershon: well, provided you have a hebrew keyboard...
[09:22] <SGershon> wezlo, borup: I'll try all that NOW. Thanks, stay tunned!
[09:22] <Madpilot> abarbaccia: np
[09:22] <wezlo> Sgershon under languages, check the "CTL" box - and then select hebrew at the default CTL language
[09:22] <Kovecses> my ubuntu cd is halfway done burning
[09:22] <wezlo> borup, don't forget that OOo needs to be made aware that you want to type hebrew
[09:22] <Kovecses> how can ubuntu afford to ship free cd's??
[09:22] <abarbaccia> wait - i'm not done yet!!  Now, it says ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[09:23] <abarbaccia> how do i find what tried to access that and change the references?
[09:23] <Madpilot> Kovecses: Mark Shuttleworth has large amounts of money
[09:23] <Kovecses> guess so
[09:23] <Kovecses> he aint greedy like gates
[09:23] <borup> wezlo: I didn't - you allready said that
[09:23] <Secreth`X> Ok. I don't understand shit of samba. Neither of networks in windows. So who wants to help me out? o_O
[09:23] <wezlo> Kovecses, I guess I could just download the 2.6.10 source package and recompile it to be k7 optimized!
[09:24] <grodius> how do i play mpeg files ??
[09:24] <abarbaccia> Secreth`X, what are you trying to do
[09:24] <Kovecses> wezlo, what video card u got?
[09:24] <Rev-Marc> is there a write up on how to speed up booting IE: removing the time syncing etc?
[09:24] <wezlo> borup, I got ya, I used to forget that when I upgraded OOo, and then when I went to import hebrew I'd flip
[09:24] <Kovecses> microsoft_bob, ???? u a spy ?????
[09:24] <jasongrieves> I added the backports to repository, but no updates , anyone getting updates form backport?
[09:24] <Secreth`X> abarbaccia: I'm trying to get my Ubuntu work with a Windows network.
[09:24] <wezlo> Kovecses, it's a S3 Unichrome
[09:25] <Rev-Marc> we have nothing to ide  :)
[09:25] <canindya> jasongrieves, can you give me the addresses of the backports?
[09:25] <Kovecses> jasongrieves, updating form backports is a bad idea
[09:25] <Secreth`X> I need to get some MP3s, logs, etc on my ubuntu
[09:25] <Rev-Marc> \hide even
[09:25] <abarbaccia> Secreth`X, do you care about security or is it a simple home network?
[09:25] <wezlo> Kovecses, the REAL bummer is that the unichrom dri module is included in the latest kernel!
[09:25] <Secreth`X> simple home network
[09:25] <ironuckles> Does anyone know of a good Blogger client?
[09:25] <Secreth`X> windows security sucks anyway :)
[09:25] <wezlo> I may just have to upgrade
[09:25] <jasongrieves> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:25] <jasongrieves> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras main restricted universe multiverse
[09:26] <Kovecses> Secreth`X, you have to make sure that you have all that stuff in a windows shared folder
[09:26] <jasongrieves> Kovecses I will select what packages
[09:26] <grodius> anyone know what prog i need to play mpeg4 files
[09:26] <canindya> jasongrieves, thanks
[09:26] <jasongrieves> Kovecses I went through a lot of Breezy dev, thakns for hte warning :)
[09:26] <Madpilot> jasongrieves: I'm not sure there is a breezy-extras?
[09:26] <abarbaccia> Secreth`X, install samba and smbfs
[09:26] <jasongrieves> Madpilot that was off of the "official" link
[09:27] <jasongrieves> Madpilot do you more
[09:27] <Secreth`X> abarbaccia: thats what Im trying to say, I dont understand samba and I think I have installed it, Im not sure
[09:27] <Madpilot> jasongrieves: hmm, OK. I guess I was wrong
[09:27] <Kovecses> my cd is almost done burning
[09:27] <abarbaccia> Secreth`X, do this:  sudo apt-get install samba smbfs
[09:27] <jasongrieves> Madpilot I think I read something about changing that
[09:27] <Secreth`X> ok brb
[09:27] <Kovecses> i can get off this outdated debian box
[09:27] <Kovecses> gnome 2.8 sucks
[09:27] <sorush20> the oddest things happen I try to close a program but it will not xmms but i can minimize it fromt eh kde menu bar but not form the minimize button could it be the xmms gui fault..?
[09:28] <K-Rich> is there a command i can use to view all packages available at one repository
[09:28] <El_Che> K-Rich: apt-cache search name
[09:28] <Kovecses> K-Rich, synaptic
[09:28] <hussam>  how do I tell what package installed or can install a certain file?
[09:28] <jasongrieves> sudo apt-get update
[09:28] <jasongrieves> still doesn't give me any new packages
[09:28] <jasongrieves> and yet i know pepople are getting new stuff
[09:28] <Sonderblade> how do you do to set a higher ulimit when ubuntu boots?
[09:29] <Madpilot> K-Rich: search in Synaptic; there's thousands of packages, so just looking at all of them is not likely to be much help...
[09:29] <Secreth`X> He is busy abarbaccia
[09:29] <Secreth`X> abarbaccia: ok done. Now what? :D
[09:30] <wezlo> how easy is it to patch the vanilla kernel source to match ubuntu's?  How heavily patched is ubuntu's kernel?
[09:30] <El_Che> wezlo: pretty
[09:30] <abarbaccia> Secreth`X, now do 'sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf'
[09:30] <wezlo> El_Che, pretty patched or pretty easy?
[09:30] <wezlo> or both
[09:31] <abarbaccia> Secreth`X, you want to find the line that says 'security = user
[09:31] <El_Che> wezlo: you can take the .config from ubuntu
[09:31] <abarbaccia> Secreth`X, and replace it with security = shared
[09:31] <Secreth`X> ok
[09:31] <abarbaccia> Secreth`X, then finally do a 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart'
[09:31] <El_Che> wezlo: apt-get install linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.12
[09:31] <abarbaccia> you should be golden then - you can then easily share folders with no logins and such
[09:32] <Secreth`X> ok
[09:32] <Kovecses> ok brb guys gonna install : )
[09:32] <confis>     ?
[09:32] <wezlo> El_Che, already installed
[09:32] <confis>   ?
[09:32] <mjr> confis, english here, please
[09:32] <El_Che> wezlo: then you know what the patches are
[09:32] <Secreth`X> done abarbaccia
[09:33] <recon> When I try to use the "make" command on my BASH shell, it reply's that it does not exist.
[09:33] <recon> Any help?
[09:33] <Ep|phany> does anyone know wehre i can find help with cedega
[09:33] <antisocial_boris> can i get realplayer or quicktime using aptitude?
[09:33] <sensoph> best place is probably on their forums whats the problem?
[09:33] <confis> I DONT HAVE EN
[09:33] <Blissex> amazingly, I saw the lines above aa righto-to-left with Konversation, in proper characters.
[09:34] <Madpilot> recon: install "build-essential"
[09:34] <bigmoe> one question what is the c compiler command for ubuntu gcc, cc, c++ they all dont work
[09:34] <confis> ONLY WAN SHIPTHOW CAN I MOVE TO EN
[09:34] <confis> ?
[09:34] <avb> /names
[09:34] <bigmoe> please one word
[09:34] <confis> I DONT HAVE EN ?
[09:35] <Secreth`X> abarbaccia: Im on windows now.. I found Samba connection but there seems to be a user and a password. How do I know what user and password I need?
[09:35] <canindya> bigmoe : you need to get build-essentials
[09:35] <confis> I NEED HELP TO MOVE LANGRAG
[09:35] <bolrod> kk
[09:35] <bigmoe> i have all the packages and libraries
[09:35] <bolrod> you need help to disable capslock
[09:35] <confis> ONLY SHIFT MOVE TO EN
[09:36] <canindya> bigmoe : then gcc -o outputfilename sourcefilename.c
[09:36] <confis> HOW CAN I CHANGE LANGREGE
[09:36] <canindya> bigmoe : for c++  g++ -o outputfilename sourcefilename.c
[09:36] <bigmoe> i have ubuntu 5.01
[09:36] <Madpilot> confis: kill the caps lock first, please...
[09:36] <bigmoe> the newest version
[09:36] <derek> hi
[09:37] <confis> THIS NOT CAPS
[09:37] <bigmoe> i'll try
[09:37] <bigmoe> command not found
[09:37] <bigmoe> for g++ and c++
[09:37] <confis> ONLY BY SHIFT I CAN WRITE ENGLISE
[09:38] <canindya> bigmoe : gcc was there right? only g++ is missing?
[09:38] <bigmoe> gcc also
[09:38] <dducko> confis, System, Administration> Language selector
[09:38] <confis> I HAVE UBUNTO
[09:38] <bigmoe> i really do not know what is wrong
[09:38] <derek> hi
[09:38] <Ep|phany> what are rpm files
[09:38] <recon> How do  you install the make command?
[09:39] <derek> say hi
[09:39] <bigmoe> could you tell me where to find the build-essentials
[09:39] <derek> hi
[09:39] <dducko> recon, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:39] <bolrod> confis: wtf is with the caps?
[09:39] <canindya> bigmoe : type echo $PATH in teminal and see whether /usr/bin is in the path
[09:39] <recon> thanx
[09:39] <canindya> bigmoe : sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:39] <iso> Hi, I have a Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger DVD i386. I'm getting debootstrap errors which says that files couldn't be downloaded...
[09:39] <dducko> His keyboard is one language till he hits shift, then he has English?
[09:39] <zdennis> hey all,....openoffice quit working today =(
[09:39] <dducko> Any idea of how to firs it?
[09:39] <recon> epphany, rpm files are like .deb for red hat, you can install them on debian using alien
[09:39] <confis> NO
[09:40] <zdennis> it just doesn't do anything. It doesn't start up, when i start openoffice from CLI it just hangs forever
[09:40] <Ep|phany> are they for a diffrent version of linux
[09:40] <SGershon> borup, wezlo: It worked! Look: ...  :)
[09:40] <zdennis> the only thing I did was install sun java 1.4.2
[09:40] <bigmoe> it is
[09:40] <recon> just a different distro
[09:40] <Ep|phany> okay
[09:40] <zdennis> does openoffice2 require 1.5?
[09:40] <abarbaccia> Secreth`X, did you change that line to say security = shared and save the file because that will make it so theres no password
[09:40] <wezlo> SGershon, glac to be of service
[09:40] <Madpilot> Ep|phany: RPM is a different type of Linux - Ubuntu is based off Debian
[09:40] <iso> checking /target/var/cache/apt/archives and a 1%3a has been inserted in those files reporting missing
[09:40] <wezlo> s/glac/glad
[09:40] <confis> now i o.k
[09:40] <Secreth`X> abarbaccia I did what you said
[09:40] <JDahl> I am trying to help a friend recover a machine after a breezy distupgrade, which went awfully wrong. What's the recommended way to configure just the network? If I can just ssh to his machine, I will be fine
[09:40] <dducko> confis, go ahead an hit caps lock, then use your shift.. nm
[09:40] <Secreth`X> Its still asking a password
[09:40] <highvoltage> zdennis: 1.4.2 or 1.5 will work.
[09:40] <abarbaccia> Secreth`X, did you save and then restart samba?
[09:40] <bigmoe> could you tell me where to find the build-essentials or if i can get it by apt-get
[09:40] <wezlo> thanks gang see ya later!
[09:40] <iso> Even ran the setup from a mounted iso..
[09:41] <Secreth`X> yes I did
[09:41] <zdennis> highvoltage, any idea how to debug this problem? i have done a "dpkg-reconfigure openoffice.org2"
[09:41] <Secreth`X> two times :x
[09:41] <Ep|phany> do any of you guys use cedega
[09:41] <zdennis> but nothing
[09:41] <canindya> bigmoe : you can get it by apt-get
[09:41] <canindya> bigmoe : sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:41] <confis> how can i move ln from keybord
[09:41] <abarbaccia> Secreth`X, try rebooting the linux machine just to be sure
[09:41] <sensoph> think they ahve mentioned a few times to do apt-get install build-essential heh
[09:41] <iso> Searched the forums too
[09:41] <Secreth`X> k
[09:41] <iso> no luck
[09:41] <canindya> bigmoe : see whether you find gcc by typing in locate /usr/bin/gcc in terminal
[09:41] <iso> :[
[09:41] <dducko> Ep|phany, #cedega
[09:41] <derek> wat is cedega?
[09:42] <iso> www.cedega.com
[09:42] <JDahl> shouldnt base-config setup the network also?
[09:42] <erUSUL> derek, a wine derivative for running games
[09:42] <SGershon> Where's Ubotu the bot?
[09:42] <SGershon> ?
[09:42] <iso> direves from wine but uses directx dlls.
[09:42] <bigmoe> THANKS A LOT IT DID WORK
[09:42] <SGershon> Is he on vacation?
[09:42] <confis> i need halp
[09:42] <erUSUL> !ubotu
[09:42] <sorush20> why can't I restart the hotplug system it hangs help?
[09:42] <bigmoe> THANK YOU VERY MUC CANINDYA
[09:43] <bigmoe> YOU ARE THE BEST
[09:43] <Plouj> hi
[09:43] <canindya> bigmoe : hey np but no caps please
[09:43] <SGershon> confis, what's the matter?
[09:43] <confis> i cenot change langreg by kibord
[09:43] <Plouj> is there a difference between the Ubuntu 5.10 preview LiveCD and the 5.10 LiveCD?
[09:43] <SGershon> erUSUL, ubotu is on vacation...
[09:43] <Secreth`X> abarbaccia: rebooted.
[09:43] <SGershon> confis, how did you changed now?
[09:43] <bigmoe> ok then thanks alot
[09:44] <canindya> bigmoe : np :)
[09:44] <derek> how many games are available to Linux through cedega?
[09:44] <confis> by admin kibord
[09:44] <honza> help please.. i can't get my tv card work - it's prolink pixelview pro with bt 878 chipset.. in tvtime there is 'no signal'. if i lspci i can see it there
[09:44] <confis> u wont from kibord
[09:44] <confis> keybord
[09:44] <erUSUL> derek, visit the web site or google around
[09:44] <SGershon> confis, Do you have the Keyboard Indicator in the panel?
[09:44] <confis> yes
[09:44] <BeanDip> Has anyone ever experienced a problem with an ext partition that won't let you mount?  three of my partions on seperate drives were not cleanly unmounted and have since been fixed with fsck but when I mount them I get "mount: /dev/hdc1 already mounted or /mnt/hdc1/ busy" errors
[09:45] <iso> derek: its a list on their website, check it.
[09:45] <confis> no
[09:45] <BeanDip> the partitions are not mounted and the mountpoint paths are not busy
[09:45] <confis> hoe can i do it
[09:45] <SGershon> conis: Add it to the panel, then you can change by just clicking on it.
[09:45] <iso> Someone got a wink or something a may do to resolv the problem I have?
[09:45] <recon> Whenever i try to mount a FORMATTED floppy, it goes "IS NOT A MOUNTABLE UDI VOLUME". Anyone know why?
[09:45] <derekS> hey, how do i download an entire ftp site (recursively) via wget/
[09:45] <topyli> i just connected a bluetooth dongle to a usb port, and my phone finds it. gnome-bluetooth does not. huh?
[09:46] <confis> from ware i Add it to the panel
[09:46] <abarbaccia> Secreth`X, I made a mistake!!! Sorry!!! the line is 'security = share'  not shared!!  then do /etc/init.d/samba restart
[09:46] <highvoltage> Plouj: nope, it doesn't
[09:46] <iso> Tried to name the files proper but debootstrap just downloaded the files into the cache with the old crapfilled name
[09:46] <confis> i have ubunto
[09:46] <SGershon> right-click on the pannel, and press "add"
[09:46] <sorush20> d
[09:46] <canindya> derekS, I use httrack for downloading
[09:47] <recon> Does anyone know how to change the repositories from "main restricted" to "universe"? i'm a newb
[09:47] <derekS> canindya: i want to use a standard util like wget
[09:47] <confis> ok
[09:47] <confis> thenks
[09:47] <axel_> hey all
[09:47] <tklauser> Is it somehow possible to restore the default "Save As" dialog in Firefox in Breezy?
[09:47] <confis> can i do it now from keybord like in win
[09:47] <confis> ?
[09:48] <SGershon> Now, you can right-click the language and choose propierties, andthen choose the keys used to change between langs.
[09:48] <Secreth`X> ok abarbaccia
[09:48] <zdennis> no one else have issues where openoffice doesn't work in breezy?
[09:48] <SGershon> confis:
[09:48] <ironuckles> zdennis, OpenOffice opens very slowly at the moment, if you want to speed it up, disable Java
[09:48] <SGershon> confis: try pressing bth alt keys!
[09:49] <derekS> would it just be wget -cr ftp://afdsafas to get everything on that?
[09:49] <SGershon> BEFORE you try to change the language properties
[09:49] <zdennis> ironuckles, how do i disable java?  kill "java" from my path?
[09:49] <nisqpaul> HI all
[09:49] <Secreth`X> abarbaccia!! worked :D
[09:49] <kismet> i can't remember my root password, but i need to change my default grub bootloader option... help!
[09:49] <confis> gast alt
[09:49] <confis> ?
[09:50] <ironuckles> zdennis, no, you need to tell OpenOffice not to use java when it runs. It does this by default, and disably it will disable a few features. I am not sure what you need to change to disable it, try searching on Google
[09:50] <SGershon> you have 2 'alt' keys, right?'
[09:50] <confis> gust alt ?
[09:50] <Knowerrors> Hey all, I get something weird, when I reboot or start up computer with monitor off, and then turn it on, the video settings are detected as 320x240, but If I boot up with monitor on, it comes up as 1024x768, help please?
[09:50] <Madpilot> kismet: you can probably do that w/ sudo - and sudo uses your own user pw....
[09:50] <abarbaccia> Secreth`X, glad i could help - you should be networked like a champ now
[09:50] <SGershon> confis: besides the space-key, you have two "ALT"s, rihgt?
[09:50] <Madpilot> Knowerrors: I've had that happen too - it's a known error, I gather
[09:50] <confis> yes
[09:51] <Knowerrors> Any fix for it?
[09:51] <SGershon> press both of them together.
[09:51] <SGershon> confis: worked?
[09:51] <iso> kismet: if not boot up the with a 1 in the boot line.. it will go directly into init 1..
[09:51] <guiz> hi there, does anyone can help me to configure my thunderbird for gmail ... it works on windows but on ubuntu can't check mail :S
[09:51] <Madpilot> Knowerrors: not that I know of, sorry.
[09:51] <confis> no
[09:51] <SGershon> :P
[09:52] <confis> alt end ? what
[09:52] <fruud> eeep i need help, my "Add remove programs" is gone!
[09:52] <SGershon> Alt and Alt. Both the alt keys. You have 2.
[09:52] <confis> yes
[09:52] <guiz> >< love this friendly spirit
[09:52] <Seveas> fruud, sudo apt-get install gnome-app-install
[09:52] <fruud> *add remove packages
[09:52] <confis> yes
[09:52] <fruud> ty
[09:53] <confis> thenk u
[09:53] <cafuego_> INCOMIIIING!
[09:53] <SGershon> press one, and while pressing the first, press the second.
[09:53] <trayz> someone speak french?
[09:53] <Seveas> !fr
[09:53] <Madpilot> !fr
[09:53] <fruud> Seveas, why i need CD for this  ?
[09:53] <confis> can i chose enthr key ?
[09:53] <Seveas> cafuego_, hurry ;)
[09:53] <SGershon> Ubotu's on strike!
[09:53] <Seveas> SGershon, no, amaranth made him leave
[09:53] <highvoltage> !unstrike
[09:53] <nisqpaul>  (Ubuntu 5.10 64bit)
[09:53] <Seveas> stupidly enough
[09:53] <cafuego_> trayz: tous leg gents  #ubuntu-fr parle fanais.
[09:54] <cafuego_> les gents
[09:54] <SGershon> confis: Alt x2 worked?
[09:54] <confis> yes thenks
[09:54] <iso> gah same fault with server install..
[09:54] <cafuego_> Seveas: Can't remember yer high school french? ;-)
[09:54] <SGershon> Seveas: LOL
[09:54] <confis> can i chose enthr key ?
[09:54] <Seveas> cafuego_, i'm too lazy
[09:54] <Seveas> that's why we need ubotu back :)
[09:54] <SGershon> You get used to that, but you can choose other in the languages preferences (right click hte language on panel)
[09:55] <recon> In synaptic, i can't find any kind of a download manager
[09:55] <SGershon> confis: got it?
[09:55] <fruud> can i open .deb files in ubuntu ?
[09:55] <confis> enother key
[09:55] <Secreth`X> abarbaccia: Im not. I still cant seem to find out how to put something from windows in to the network of Samba.
[09:55] <zygis> recon, d4x
[09:55] <topyli> how come my phone finds my bluetooth dongle but my machine doesn't seem to?
[09:55] <recon> can i find it in synaptic?
[09:55] <canindya> recon, d4x !!
[09:55] <recon> can i find it in synaptic?
[09:55] <cafuego_> stupid bot
[09:55] <canindya> recon, yes
[09:56] <sensoph> yes fruud .deb files are for debian linux which ubuntu is based of dpkg -i whatever.deb unless you need more options
[09:56] <recon> i'll take a loog
[09:56] <Seveas> cafuego_, uncripple it ;)
[09:56] <Rawplayer> re
[09:56] <Plouj> thats the difference between ubuntu CD and DVD releases?
[09:56] <abarbaccia> Secreth`X, i usually do it from the windows machine and just drag and drop - if it doesnt let you its because of the permissions on the directory on the linux system - try a sudo chmod 777 -R 'dir name'
[09:56] <fruud> sensoph, ok :)
[09:56] <Secreth`X> ok
[09:56] <recon> thanks, canidya
[09:56] <Secreth`X> moment please..
[09:56] <canindya> recon, np
[09:56] <cafuego_> Seveas: No, it's a kill -9; restart operation.
[09:56] <recon> what?
[09:56] <recon> what does np mean?
[09:57] <canindya> recon, no problem
[09:57] <recon> ok
[09:57] <SGershon> confis: Again, click the language in the panel, choose Language Prefereces.
[09:57] <sensoph> oops
[09:57] <SGershon> confis: Then you go to the third tab, and then ask again.
[09:57] <SGershon> ;)
[09:57] <cafuego_> Okay, here we go.
[09:57] <fruud> to be able to compile all programs i download, iv installed many packages through apt-get install, question is do i need KDE DEVELOPMENT installed ?
[09:57] <fruud> all these progs
[09:58] <confis> layout options ?
[09:58] <SGershon> right!
[09:58] <fruud> *KDevelope
[09:58] <SGershon> Now enter:
[09:58] <sensoph> it may depend on the program being installed.
[09:58] <SGershon> Group/Shift lock behavior
[09:58] <confis> ok
[09:59] <Secreth`X> Argh
[09:59] <Secreth`X> abarbaccia: still doesnt seem to work
[09:59] <total_assault> hey, I have a weird probelm whenever i click a video file to play in firefox that opens in a new window both the new window and the parent window close after a second, I am running 5.10 x86_64
[09:59] <SGershon> confis: Scroll down, choose: "Alt+Shift changes group". And you have a windows-like setting.
[09:59] <SGershon> confis: Got it?
[09:59] <Seveas> ubotu, wb
[09:59] <ubotu> Seveas: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:59] <abarbaccia> Secreth`X, what error are you getting?
[10:00] <Secreth`X> in windows abarbaccia?
[10:00] <confis> i look for it now
[10:00] <SGershon> Ubotu: We missed you.
[10:00] <ubotu> SGershon: Are you smoking crack?
[10:00] <SGershon> No, I'm not!
[10:00] <SGershon> ;)
[10:00] <Secreth`X> yay ubotu is back :D
[10:00] <SGershon> confis: worked?
[10:00] <abarbaccia> Secreth`X, yes
[10:00] <confis> i look for shift and alt
[10:01] <Secreth`X> Nasty :x. Its asking for a password again
[10:01] <Secreth`X> Now with a Guest thingie :x
[10:01] <SGershon> confis: Scroll down, choose: "Alt+Shift changes group". And you have a windows-like setting.
[10:02] <ironuckles> ubotu, I think you're hot!
[10:02] <ubotu> ironuckles: I give up, what is it?
[10:03] <confis> work
[10:03] <ironuckles> ubotu, want to cyber?
[10:03] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ironuckles
[10:03] <Secreth`X> lol
[10:03] <confis> : )
[10:03] <confis> thenk you
[10:03] <Seveas> ironuckles, playing with the bot is still not allowed..
[10:03] <Ep|phany> anyone here use point2play?
[10:03] <Secreth`X> to bad Seveas :P
[10:03] <ironuckles> Seveas, sorry
[10:03] <SGershon> confis: you're welcome.
[10:04] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[10:04] <ubotu> :)
[10:04] <bluefoxicy> Is there a Firefox 1.5 for breezy backport yet?
[10:04] <confis> do you know how to install driver to wifi pci card from edinax ?
[10:04] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, no
[10:04] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  shit.
[10:04] <DShepherd> bluefoxicy: you can run it externally though,,,without installing it
[10:04] <derekh> anyone going for the firefox 1.5 extensions competition?
[10:04] <DShepherd> bluefoxicy: that's what I am doing
[10:05] <confis> i found driver name rt25000
[10:05] <bluefoxicy> DShepherd:  I know.
[10:05] <DShepherd> bluefoxicy: ok
[10:05] <total_assault> what site do i use to post a big error log?
[10:05] <confis> end i dont know how to work with this
[10:05] <Seveas> !pastebin
[10:05] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:05] <Seveas> ^-- total_assault
[10:05] <total_assault> ok
[10:05] <fruud> Seveas, through my linux i can enter my pc with windows XP on, but through XP i cant enter my Ubuntu... it asks for username and password... where do i choose what user and pass i want ? :)
[10:06] <Seveas> fruud, in what way are you trying to access it?
[10:06] <fruud> im gonna share a folder and send ova things
[10:06] <Stormx2> barnag: heh, thats almost my name :)
[10:06] <fruud> file tranfer sorta..
[10:06] <fruud> iv clicked "shared folders" and added a folder
[10:07] <Seveas> fruud, then your username and password should work if you did sudo smbpasswd -a $USER on the linux machine
[10:07] <ironuckles> fruud, youre using NFS then?
[10:07] <fruud> yes i do, how do i set up a username and password for my network so i can enter through XP ?
[10:07] <fruud> :$
[10:08] <ray_> i just installed breezy and my floppy drive doesnt work???
[10:08] <fruud> should i paste this in terminal ? (sudo smbpasswd -a $USER)
[10:08] <seth_k> Anyone know a way to get Eclipse to let me install plugins? I can't run it as root b/c it errors out, and I can't get it to install plugins to my home directory; has to be to the global plugins directory.
[10:08] <total_assault> ok can someone please take a look at my apt-get error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4323 , thanks
[10:08] <bluefrog-10> !tell bluefrog about skel
[10:09] <bluefrog-10> total_assault, no big deal
[10:09] <seth_k> total_assault, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the cdrom line (should be the first line)
[10:09] <total_assault> ok thanks a lot
[10:09] <Divinesavior> why does ubuntu freeze up on me anytime I enter a website with music in the background. Not all the time but somtimes it get annoying. Is there a solution?
[10:11] <pitillo> hi, anyone can tell me why the installation dont let me put password for root? or can tell me what is the default password for him?
[10:11] <Stormx2> Divinesavior: You may be missing some drivers/plugins for firefox
[10:11] <Stormx2> !tell pitillo about root
[10:11] <Stormx2> pitillo: Check your messages from ubotu
[10:11] <ray_> why cant i acess my floppy drive???
[10:11] <Divinesavior> stormx2 how do I get these?
[10:12] <Stormx2> Divinesavior: have a look in synaptic and try installing firefox audio plugins.
[10:12] <gearry> I am trying to get my laptop to suspend/sleep
[10:12] <zdennis> bah!! this is sucking
[10:12] <Stormx2> zdennis: How come?
[10:12] <Divinesavior> stormx2 k thanks
[10:12] <zdennis> openoffice just wont do anything
[10:12] <pitillo> Stormx2, thanks, i will read about that... i dont understand why do that...
[10:12] <zdennis> it just hangs
[10:12] <gearry> I know this is a common problem, but even after much searching I can not find a good general howto
[10:12] <zdennis> and never actually starts up
[10:12] <ethan-allison> how would i find out the name of all the currently available wifi networks?
[10:12] <zdennis> starting from CLI shows that the process just hangs
[10:12] <gearry> I had ubuntu installed previously, and I could get it to sleep, but not wake up properly
[10:13] <Stormx2> pitillo: Well, I'm not all too sure why. It think its mainly for security. You can enable root, but it breaks the GUI system tools!
[10:13] <zdennis> i have tried with abunch of different options
[10:13] <zdennis> but to no avail
[10:13] <gearry> now I can not even recall where the config file was that allowed me to enable sleep mode
[10:13] <lesersomfaen> !list
[10:13] <ubotu> it has been said that list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:13] <zdennis> and it doesn't show any errors!
[10:13] <lesersomfaen> hey, yo everybody
[10:13] <pitillo> Stormx2, interesting, i use Debian, and im installing ubuntu for my sister... but i didnt know that, i need to read about it then, thanks
[10:13] <lesersomfaen> anybody home?
[10:14] <luckyaba> could a heavy load on my computer cause my usb keyboard to string letters ( lllllikkeeee tthissss)?
[10:14] <Stormx2> pitillo: Its kind of interesting, but you get used to it =)
[10:14] <Stormx2> pitillo: It means that new users won't go using root as their normal account and piling junk onto their computer
[10:14] <lesersomfaen> Hey, fellas, can I crash da chat with a short n00b q?
[10:14] <Stormx2> lesersomfaen: Hey
[10:14] <ethan-allison> lesersomfaen: yeah
[10:14] <Stormx2> lesersomfaen: As long as you don't ask it in gansta ^.^
[10:15] <si> Are all the special device files in /dev created by udev or are there some fixed files still in there. I'm asking because I'd like to do a complete backup using tar which can not archive special files.
[10:15] <ethan-allison> Stormx2: seconded
[10:15] <lesersomfaen> aright.. I downloaded this chessgame with synaptic rite...
[10:15] <lesersomfaen> and it doesnt show in da menu
[10:15] <lesersomfaen> same with edonkey
[10:15] <lesersomfaen> doesnt show?
[10:15] <SGershon> !ubuntu
[10:15] <ubotu> methinks ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[10:15] <ethan-allison> lesersomfaen: run it from the command line
[10:15] <Stormx2> lesersomfaen: What menu?
[10:15] <pitillo> Stormx2, well thinked, most users work with root account... new users...
[10:15] <SGershon> !awards
[10:15] <ubotu> well, awards is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks
[10:15] <ethan-allison> Stormx2: apps menu
[10:15] <lesersomfaen> well, the menu above, duh
[10:15] <lesersomfaen> apps menu
[10:15] <lesersomfaen> yeah
[10:15] <Stormx2> pitillo: They shouldn't! Root is for administration only!
[10:15] <ray_> !repos
[10:15] <total_assault> Can one use xine to play embedded videos instead of mplayer?
[10:16] <Stormx2> guys: /msg ubotu <word>
[10:16] <Stormx2> Stop clogging up the channel
[10:16] <lesersomfaen> Well I don't work with root
[10:16] <lesersomfaen> what?
[10:16] <pitillo> Stormx2, yes but im looking that account to prepare the machine to my sister... thinking in debian... :)
[10:16] <lesersomfaen> Oh, who should I private message then...?
[10:16] <Stormx2> pitillo: Heh yeah. Well, you're sister will get by pretty well :)
[10:16] <Stormx2> lesersomfaen: No no
[10:17] <whaley|work> !gstreamer
[10:17] <ubotu> whaley|work: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:17] <whaley|work> heh
[10:17] <Stormx2> lesersomfaen: When people clog up channels with !<word> it gets annoying
[10:17] <pitillo> Stormx2, i hpe so :)
[10:17] <lesersomfaen> okay, what is !word?
[10:17] <Stormx2> look:
[10:17] <theine> total_assault, if you install totem-xine, then definately yes I guess...
[10:17] <Stormx2> !windmill
[10:17] <ubotu> Stormx2: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:17] <Stormx2> He responds.
[10:17] <spity> heya
[10:17] <lesersomfaen> oh...
[10:17] <lesersomfaen> ubotu is a bot?
[10:17] <ubotu> lesersomfaen: I give up, what is it?
[10:18] <whaley|work> !java
[10:18] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[10:18] <luckyaba> why would my screen fade to a black screen after like a minute of me not touching it?
[10:18] <Stormx2> whaley|work: /msg ubotu <word>
[10:18] <SGershon> Stormx2, goto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:18] <theine> !javadeb
[10:18] <ubotu> No idea, theine
[10:18] <theine> that's helpful...
[10:18] <dougsko> hey guys, i noticed there a new kernel ou there, 2.6.14.1, but it's not in apt-get, would it be a good idea or bad to upgrade?
[10:18] <Stormx2> SGershon: What are you on about? I know how to use ubotu.
[10:18] <whaley|work> Stormx2, k
[10:18] <lesersomfaen> well, so how do I get eDonkey in my apps menu?
[10:19] <lesersomfaen> and da chessgame?
[10:19] <spity> i've heard that theer are some problems with visibility support in gcc and KDE, i have fairly stable desktop now, as i haven't updated for quite a while and i'd like to update now, so i'm curious whether it's true
[10:19] <lesersomfaen> I have ubuntu
[10:19] <dougsko> im running 2.6.12 now
[10:19] <Stormx2> lesersomfaen: You don't get a bar at the top?
[10:19] <theine> lesersomfaen, da chessgame?
[10:19] <lesersomfaen> no
[10:19] <lesersomfaen> not under games
[10:19] <lesersomfaen> not under internet
[10:19] <lesersomfaen> not under anything
[10:19] <lesersomfaen> god damn
[10:19] <Stormx2> lesersomfaen: What is the chess game called
[10:19] <Stormx2> lesersomfaen: Just because its installed doesn't mean it will come up in the applications menu.
[10:19] <JDahl> I dowloaded a debian package "openafs_1.4.0.orig.tar.gz" and "openafs_1.4.0-1.diff.gz". How do I apply the patch? I seem to doing it the wrong way
[10:20] <lesersomfaen> gnuchess
[10:20] <Madpilot> lesersomfaen: some apps don't install themselves into the menu automatically
[10:20] <theine> lesersomfaen, relax, you can add it yourself anywhere you want
[10:20] <lesersomfaen> so how do I install them in the menu?
[10:20] <lesersomfaen> What do I type in terminal
[10:20] <lesersomfaen> or console?
[10:20] <theine> lesersomfaen, gnuchess is just a chess engine
[10:20] <ari123> how can i instal a driver .? i find it and want to instal .?
[10:20] <Stormx2> lesersomfaen: Use SMEG
[10:20] <Stormx2> lesersomfaen: Right click applications > edit menus
[10:20] <theine> lesersomfaen, for a gui, you need a client like xboard
[10:20] <lesersomfaen> well I got eboard
[10:20] <lesersomfaen> and phalanx
[10:21] <theine> lesersomfaen, that should do
[10:21] <lesersomfaen> and GNU- chess as well
[10:21] <Madpilot> lesersomfaen: try "gnuchess" in the terminal?
[10:21] <lesersomfaen> use SMEG?
[10:21] <SGershon> Hi. How can I discover whick codecs I have installed?
[10:21] <lesersomfaen> oh, that simple?
[10:21] <theine> lesersomfaen, so eboard doesn't show up in the menu?
[10:21] <Stormx2> !smeg
[10:21] <ubotu> Alacarte Menu Editor is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME. Older versions were called smeg. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/
[10:21] <Stormx2> lesersomfaen: Its installed with ubuntu. Right Click Applications > Edit Menus
[10:22] <ray_> whats up with ubuntu not supporting internal floppy drives.... this is very very very dissapointing
[10:22] <nicholas_paul> ray_ it does support CDRWs tho :)
[10:22] <SGershon> How to check which codecs I have installed?
[10:22] <jonf> Could someone tell me how I can install mldonkey and wine with Sypnatic??? I try to search them but I dont find them
[10:22] <theine> ray_, what? it doesn't?
[10:22] <nicholas_paul> SGershon try synaptic
[10:22] <jorgg> what does the numbers behind the commands in the man-pages mean?
[10:23] <SGershon> nicholas_paul, where in synaptic?
[10:23] <ray_> theine, no it doesnt
[10:23] <lesersomfaen> arite, I go to the menu editor alacarte page
[10:23] <lesersomfaen> but if I dont dl with synaptic, I dunno how to install
[10:23] <theine> ray_, i'm sure you can mount a floppy
[10:23] <nicholas_paul> jonf you should be able to find wine in Synaptic - if not, activate your repositories.
[10:23] <dougsko> jorgg: the manual is set up in chapters
[10:23] <theine> ray_, sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[10:23] <ray_> theine, look it up..... ubuntu doesnt support internal floppy drives
[10:23] <nicholas_paul> SGershon you'll have to search for codecs and see which are highlighted.
[10:24] <nicholas_paul> ray_ why do you need floppies ?
[10:24] <SGershon> nicholas_paul, thanks!
[10:24] <Marlun> I've tried to install ubuntu 2 times now, but both times it gets stuck when it's going to install something called GRUB, I've got windows xp on another hardrive too.
[10:24] <Marlun> What can be wrong?
[10:24] <nicholas_paul> Sgershon anytime : )
[10:24] <jonf> NICHOLAS_PAUL HOW DO I ACTIVE THE REPOSITORIES?
[10:24] <NoobieDoobieDo> Strange. On my livecd no web browsers are loading.. Firefox didn't load twice so I installed Epiphany, it's failing to load now....
[10:24] <theine> ray_, could you perhaps point me to that kind of information?
[10:24] <dougsko> what kernels are you guys running?
[10:24] <jorgg> dougsko: okay
[10:24] <ray_> nicholas_paul, i have documents saved on a floppy
[10:24] <dougsko> jorgg: thats what the number is
[10:24] <nicholas_paul> ray_ aahhh... find a store with a floppy drive in a pc and email them to yourself. Then stop using decades old technology :)
[10:25] <bluefrog-10> where can i find info on how /etc/skel works, pls?
[10:25] <luckyaba> i have a weird problem.... my computer seems to be running iin "fast forward".. the screensaver comes on way before it should.. movies play way to fast, and when i type the keys run on llllikkkeee this
[10:25] <Marlun> Also in the Partitioner, should I choose "... erase harddrive...Use LVM" or not?
[10:25] <recon> I am trying to install java on ubuntu according to the Ubuntu Guide (ubuntuguide.org), but it doesn't exist. What gives?
[10:25] <jorgg> dougsko: Is there a way to quickly jump to other parts when you see other commands refered?
[10:25] <theine> ray_, you can access internal floppy drives through the terminal
[10:25] <ray_> nicholas_paul, my pc is brand new and it has a floppy drive
[10:25] <Marlun> I've choosen the other alternative both time (not using LVM) because I have no idea what LVM is.
[10:25] <nicholas_paul> jonf in Synaptic, go to Settings and Repos then highlight all the ones you need
[10:25] <dougsko> jorgg: hold on a sec, let me find a link for you
[10:25] <ray_> nicholas_paul, low tech yes but at the moment i need it
[10:25] <jorgg> dougsko: okay
[10:25] <theine> ray_, only gnome seems to have problems with them
[10:26] <nicholas_paul> ray_ yea but you need an OS that uses it, right? Find somebody with windows. Sorry i think thats the only solutaion
[10:26] <Marlun> If someone could help me, please write a private message since theres so much text flowing in the main chat, thank in advance!
[10:26] <recon> Can I please have some help?
[10:26] <nicholas_paul> ask away recon
[10:26] <trappist> ray_: snatch a floppy drive from one of the pentium machines in the nearest dumpster
[10:26] <nicholas_paul> lol
[10:26] <theine> ray_, try that sudo command I posted, the contents of your floppy should appear under /mnt
[10:26] <ray_> nicholas_paul, what are you talking about??  every other distro supports floppy fine
[10:27] <recon> well, I'm trying to install java
[10:27] <dougsko> jorgg: http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1886411999/ref=sib_rdr_next1_18/104-9911620-4297549?%5Fencoding=UTF8&p=S01B&ns=1#reader-page
[10:27] <trappist> Marlun: help stays here so everyone can benefit
[10:27] <jorgg> dougsko: : okay thanks
[10:27] <SGershon> Another one: What in your opinion is better, amule, xmule?
[10:27] <dougsko> jorgg: you can read the chapter in this book
[10:27] <Marlun> trappist: okey, thats ok then =)
[10:27] <jonf> nicholas_paul thank you!
[10:27] <dougsko> jorgg: its all about the manual
[10:27] <erUSUL> recon, ask
[10:27] <trappist> Marlun: if you don't know what lvm is, don't use it.  if there's nothing you need to save on your hard drive, let ubuntu wipe it out.
[10:27] <ray_> trappist, and the archatecture you are using?
[10:28] <KaoticEvil> anyone use the xmail mail server?
[10:28] <trappist> ray_: i386 if I understand your question correctly
[10:28] <theine> ray_, are you listening to me? you *CAN* access your floppy drive from the terminal
[10:28] <Marlun> trappist: no, I have 2 harddrives, 1 which has windows installed and one which I want to install ubuntu on.
[10:28] <ray_> trappist, and your saying to get pentmiums out of the dumpster?
[10:28] <trappist> Marlun: your best bet is to manually partition the hard drive you want to put ubuntu on
[10:29] <erUSUL> !tell recon about java
[10:29] <Marlun> trappist: however, when the installation comes to "installing grub" everything stops working, nothing happends"
[10:29] <ray_> theine, i already told you.... i know you can from the term
[10:29] <axel_> hey, anyone uses the contact birthdays in Evolution ? i cant get them to go into my calendar, how do i do that ?
[10:29] <theine> ray_, sorry, i missed that
[10:29] <trappist> ray_: pentium as in ye olde pentium as in 100mhz.  they're in dumpsters everywhere.
[10:29] <jonf> nicholas_paul I added Ubuntu 5.10 Updates and Ubuntu 5.10 Security Updates and I still dont see the mldonkey
[10:29] <luckyaba> can i manually sync my clock with a command?
[10:29] <ray_> theine, it even puts an icon on the desktop.... but i wish nautilus could do it
[10:30] <Marlun> trappist: so you think it's something to do with the partitioning that makes the installation of grub not working.
[10:30] <bigmoe> i have another question
[10:30] <erUSUL> !tell jonf about repos
[10:30] <ray_> brb
[10:30] <trappist> luckyaba: rdate -s clock-1.cs.cmu.edu && hwclock --systohc
[10:30] <NoobieDoobieDo> lol @ the !tell bot.
[10:30] <bigmoe> where can i find the GLIB >= 1.2.2
[10:30] <theine> ray_, it's a known bug, nobody prohibited mounting floppies under nautilus on purpose...
[10:30] <Seveas> luckyaba, sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[10:31] <theine> ray_, people do make mistakes sometime...
[10:31] <trappist> Marlun: I don't know.  this is the first time I'm hearing about the grub problem.  it could be a problem if the partition /boot is on is xfs
[10:31] <luckyaba> trappist: command not found
[10:31] <axel_> hey, anyone uses the contact birthdays in Evolution ? i cant get them to go into my calendar, how do i do that ?
[10:31] <seth_k> Anyone know a way to get Eclipse to let me install plugins? I can't run it as root b/c it errors out, and I can't get it to install plugins to my home directory; has to be to the global plugins directory.
[10:31] <erUSUL> lucaas, sudo ntpdate hora.usc.es
[10:31] <lucaas> not me maybe :>
[10:31] <trappist> luckyaba: then try ntpdate tock.greyware.com && hwclock --systohc
[10:31] <jonf> erUSUL than you!
[10:31] <erUSUL> luckyaba, sudo ntpdate hora.usc.es
[10:32] <erUSUL> lucaas, tab completion mistake sorry ;)
[10:32] <trappist> wait, doesn't ubuntu also have an ntpdate server?
[10:32] <Marlun> trappist: xfs?
[10:32] <erUSUL> jonf, np
[10:32] <theine> trappist, yes, it does
[10:32] <bigmoe> sorry
[10:32] <bigmoe> but where can i find  GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed -
[10:32] <Marlun> the harddrive that i want to install ubuntu on is the slave.
[10:33] <jorgg> is there any dc-clients i can install with the synaptic packet manager?
[10:33] <erUSUL> bigmoe, apt-cache search glib
[10:33] <ray_> ok another question..... my hard drive cpu light thing stays on?????
[10:33] <luckyaba> trappist: ok that fixed part of the problem...
[10:33] <luckyaba> trappist: thanks
[10:34] <erUSUL> jorgg, have you searched with synaptic?
[10:34] <trappist> Marlun: xfs is a filesystem that grub doesn't work well with
[10:34] <jorgg> erUSUL:  i have tried one program that i found but i didnt get to connect with it
[10:34] <axel_> hey, anyone uses the contact birthdays in Evolution ? i cant get them to go into my calendar, how do i do that ?
[10:35] <trappist> Marlun: I'm not a grub guru - xfs just comes to mind because I've run into that problem.
[10:35] <ray_> ok another question..... my hard drive cpu light thing stays on?????
[10:35] <luckyaba> trappist: know why my keyboard and mouse woould be going very fast.. the cursor blink incredibly fast and i had to disable key repeat so it wouldn't string letters together when i type
[10:35] <jorgg> erUSUL: it was dctc gui or somthing, it tried to connect troug the eth0 not my internett atml0 ...
[10:35] <trappist> luckyaba: sounds like you're having clock issues
[10:35] <trappist> like it's running too fast
[10:35] <Marlun> trappist: ok, seems weird, I have not done anything else, it was NTFS before, I put in the cd and run the ubuntu installation, and tell it to erase the slave harddrive and partition it however it likes.
[10:36] <ray_> ubuntu is mighty buggy
[10:36] <erUSUL> jorgg, maybe only some configuration needed
[10:36] <trappist> Marlun: ntfs could be the issue.  maybe.  I don't really know.
[10:36] <luckyaba> trappist: would that explain why the screensaver seems to come on in like a minute instead of 10?
[10:36] <Blissex> ray_: naaah, invidual apps may be a bit, but usually it is pretty reliable.
[10:36] <trappist> luckyaba: yes
[10:37] <jorgg> erUSUL: i could try, toy dont happen to recommand any other dc-client?
[10:37] <erUSUL> ray_, yeah b win is way worse so...
[10:37] <Toba> is there a reason a ps/2 mouse would be blatantly ps/2 incompatible?
[10:37] <Marlun> hmmmm....so maybe I should use the winxp disc to remove the partition first?
[10:37] <Marlun> I'll try that
[10:37] <axel_> hey, anyone uses the contact birthdays in Evolution ? i cant get them to go into my calendar, how do i do that ?
[10:37] <luckyaba> trappist: this sucks. movies aare doing it too i think when i try and play them it seems like they are in fast forward
[10:37] <fruud> theme problem... or something like that. halp ?
[10:37] <trappist> Marlun: no, linux can delete an ntfs partition fine.  but it wants to write the boot sector to your primary master, which I guess is ntfs.
[10:38] <trappist> luckyaba: that does pretty much suck.  it's either a hardware issue or a kernel issue, though... maybe google has an idea.
[10:38] <luckyaba> trappist: thanks for the help
[10:39] <trappist> luckyaba: for example, you might try booting without acpi
[10:39] <Marlun> trappist: ah, ok hmmm.. then I've go no idea what to do.
[10:39] <fruud> why does my firefox and many other buttons and so  on look ugly like this for now ? all fat and ugly! ( example: http://www.fruud.se/Files/Pictures/messedupfirefox.png )
[10:39] <sword> hey
[10:39] <total_assault> alrite, i have just compiled mplayer, install greasemonkey + pklaunch, the music videos from launch.yahoo.com launch and i hear the music playing for the entire song but i do not see any video, i tried going to configure and switching the video output fronm x11 to xv but no luck, any is help is appreciated
[10:39] <erUSUL> luckyaba, running in a laptop?
[10:39] <trappist> Marlun: me neither.  try asking the channel again - when I jumped in it wasn't a grub issue.
[10:39] <sword> im having trouble w/ mplayer right now for some reason..
[10:39] <sword> what are you guys settings
[10:39] <sword> for the audio and video codecs
[10:39] <luckyaba> erUDUL: no
[10:39] <trappist> total_assault: you probably lack the video codec
[10:40] <total_assault> trappist: alrite thanks i will download some more codecs
[10:40] <ray_> my hard drive light stays on ??? anyone else have this problem?
[10:40] <trappist> !tell total_assault about w32codecs
[10:40] <ray_> !tell ray_ about w32codecs
[10:40] <trappist> ray_: if it's for your own edification, please /msg ubotu w32codecs
[10:40] <ompaul> !tell ray about msg the bot
[10:40] <Marlun> I want to install ubuntu on my slave harddrive, the master has Windows XP. When the ubuntu installation comes to "installing grub" nothing happends it just stands there on 0% done, what can I do?
[10:41] <ray_> trappist, lol ok will do
[10:41] <erUSUL> fruud, i can not see the problem
[10:41] <erUSUL> fruud, it looks like it should
[10:41] <ray_> trappist, nothing happened
[10:41] <fruud> it does ? i remeber it like it looked nice and so like all my other buttons and themes from KDE :S
[10:41] <justinpineautoot> hello
[10:42] <erUSUL> fruud, with the theme you are using maybe clearlooks is more pleasant
[10:42] <justinpineautoot> wut is happeneing?
[10:42] <davro> just installed edbuntu, is there a way to switch back to ubuntu ?
[10:42] <fruud> :|
[10:42] <luckyaba> anyone familiar with the "double clock speed" issues?
[10:42] <theine> davro, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:42] <theine> davro, that will leave all edubuntu applications in place though
[10:42] <KaoticEvil> anyone run a mailserver?
[10:43] <borup> luckyaba: I suffer from it
[10:43] <fruud> im using "Plastik"
[10:43] <fruud> erUSUL, Im using Plastik
[10:43] <luckyaba> borup: did you get it fixed?
[10:43] <fruud> would that be good enyff ? :(
[10:43] <erUSUL> luckyaba, a kernel problem with your hard. maybe trying other kernel?
[10:43] <davro> theine: cheers mate apps are cool just wondered if it was a gnome theme
[10:43] <bluefrog-10> davro, edu or u are the same except for the ltsp setup
[10:43] <bigmoe> can anyone tell me what is the GLIB for the xmms program
[10:44] <borup> luckyaba: nope - its a amd64 thing aparently
[10:44] <bluefrog-10> davro, just download a them if it's the only thing that annoys you
[10:44] <lanjelot> What repositories can we set in breezy-updates ?
[10:44] <erUSUL> fruud, i use Gnome can not help you
[10:44] <fruud> okey thanks for ur time
[10:44] <erUSUL> bigmoe, what's the problem?
[10:44] <lanjelot> main & restricted yes, but what about multiverse and universe ?
[10:45] <trappist> luckyaba: boot with 'clock=tsc' in your boot line
[10:45] <KaoticEvil> lanjelot:  those are safe... and they have LOTS of packages available
[10:45] <trappist> luckyaba: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0405.3/0462.html
[10:45] <axel_> hey, anyone uses the contact birthdays in Evolution ? i cant get them to go into my calendar, how do i do that ?
[10:45] <erUSUL> fruud, np
[10:45] <davro> bluefrog-10: cheers just looking really.
[10:46] <P00f> where might I find a complete apt-list online? I am in windows and am shopping for distros... would like to compare some files... TIA :)
[10:46] <ari123> help me to install a driver
[10:46] <theine> P00f, check packages.ubuntu.com
[10:46] <P00f> Thanks :)
[10:46] <lanjelot> KaoticEvil, with the line deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted universe multiverse.
[10:46] <lanjelot> Will i really get security updates for my universe and multiverse installed packages ?
[10:46] <bluefrog-10> davro, enable universe and get art-manager, then in system > preferences >art manager you will be able to get and swith themes/backgrounds... very easily
[10:47] <bigmoe> i'm installing(./configure) the xmms program but it always tell me that the GLIB 1.2.2 is not installed
[10:47] <Habbie> bigmoe, xmms is in the ubuntu package repositories
[10:47] <theine> bigmoe, why don't you install the one in the ubuntu repositories?
[10:47] <bigmoe> is it??
[10:47] <total_assault> trappist: i am running x86_64 no 1386 :(
[10:48] <theine> bigmoe, you need to enable the universe repository
[10:48] <trappist> total_assault: you're going to have some limitations then, with available codecs
[10:48] <theine> bigmoe, sorry, you don't need to...
[10:48] <bigmoe> how can i do that??
[10:48] <erUSUL> bigmoe, why not just installing it from repos? or better bmp?
[10:48] <ethan-allison> so i'm startin' up wifi_radar, and i get "eth1   Interface doesn't support scanning: Operation not supported".
[10:48] <ethan-allison> how do you add scan support?
[10:48] <trappist> total_assault: but wait, doesn't x86_64 do 32 bit code just fine?
[10:48] <avrine> hi dears
[10:48] <bigmoe> i'll see
[10:48] <ethan-allison> avrine: elo
[10:48] <ethan-allison> ello*
[10:48] <theine> bigmoe, you don't, just open system -> administration -> synaptic package manager and search for it
[10:48] <topyli> i really never realized there were incompatible bluetooth dongles still in this world
[10:49] <erUSUL> !tell bigmoe about repos
[10:49] <picca> does anyone know if reiserfs is better on diskspace than ext3?
[10:49] <total_assault> trappist: im going to try some codecs off the mplayer site
[10:49] <thedcm> !tell me about repos
[10:49] <thedcm> o thx
[10:49] <recon> Can somebody help me?
[10:49] <KaoticEvil> .msg ubotu repos
[10:49] <avrine> i want to play  mp3 files and vcd by totem but it take very long to install libraries
[10:49] <erUSUL> recon, ask
[10:49] <trappist> total_assault: the w32codecs package just downloads the codecs from mplayer.hu
[10:50] <ethan-allison> avrine: apt-get install xmms
[10:50] <KaoticEvil> ubotu:  tell lanjelot about repos
[10:50] <Ep|phany> is there anyway to play windows games without paying for cedega?
[10:50] <avrine> no i use BMP
[10:50] <recon> well, when i run 'java' in a terminal, it runs gij instead.
[10:50] <avrine> and not have problem
[10:50] <ethan-allison> Ep|phany: in theory
[10:50] <avrine> so, for totem
[10:50] <theine> recon, update-alternatives --display java
[10:51] <theine> recon, try that and see if the sun version shows up
[10:51] <P00f> wow cool! you guys got lots of nice emulators :)
[10:51] <erUSUL> Ep|phany, with the cvs version or the ones that run on wine
[10:51] <bigmoe> but there are plenty of packages should i install all of them
[10:51] <SGershon> I want to use Apache+php in Ubuntu. How?
[10:51] <Ep|phany> dam because i have cedega but i dont have a transgamer account so i dont know how to use it
[10:51] <erUSUL> bigmoe, ony the ones you need
[10:51] <theine> bigmoe, the one called xmms will do I guess
[10:51] <recon> it came up with "java - status is auto.
[10:51] <recon>  link currently points to /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[10:51] <recon> /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0 - priority 40
[10:51] <recon>  slave rmiregistry: /usr/bin/grmiregistry-4.0
[10:51] <recon>  slave rmiregistry.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/grmiregistry-4.0.1.gz
[10:51] <recon>  slave java.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/gij-wrapper-4.0.1.gz
[10:52] <recon> /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java - priority 1040
[10:52] <recon>  slave java.1.gz: /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/man/man1/java.1.gz
[10:52] <recon> Current `best' version is /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java.
[10:52] <trappist> recon: don't paste here
[10:52] <recon> "
[10:52] <erUSUL> SGershon, install them
[10:52] <recon> sry
[10:52] <ompaul> recon,  DONT PASTE
[10:52] <theine> recon, how did you install sun java?
[10:52] <Madpilot> !tell recon about paste
[10:52] <erUSUL> recon, do not paste here please
[10:52] <theine> I think he got that now...
[10:52] <Ep|phany> anyone have any ideas?
[10:52] <ompaul> Madpilot, your too fast
[10:52] <erUSUL> !tell recon about pastebin
[10:52] <SGershon> erUSUL, I did not found them in "Add Application".
[10:52] <recon> i used alien to install rpm from java.com
[10:52] <trappist> somebody should tell recon not to paste
[10:52] <P00f> I am a computer recycler.... can I install ubuntu for free for refurbished computers? (for poor kids)
[10:53] <ompaul> trappist, will you
[10:53] <bigmoe> but all the others and just plugins i guess
[10:53] <trappist> P00f: of course
[10:53] <ray_> my hard drive light stays on ??? anyone else have this problem?
[10:53] <recon> i get the message
[10:53] <theine> recon, that's not optimal, try the one from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:53] <SGershon> P00f, you can
[10:53] <P00f> you guys rock :)
[10:53] <erUSUL> SGershon, Use synaptic, add all repos
[10:53] <recon> ok
[10:53] <SGershon> ok
[10:53] <erUSUL> !tell SGershon about repos
[10:53] <bigmoe> and by the way is there a playlist editor if anyone used it before
[10:53] <theine> recon, he has a java repo with j2re 1.5
[10:54] <trappist> bigmoe: for what
[10:54] <avrine> SGershon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:54] <recon> i'm getting a not found error
[10:54] <SGershon> avrine, thanks.
[10:55] <theine> recon, oh...
[10:55] <ulaas> can i find a goot gtk2 based cvs tool in breezy repos?
[10:55] <theine> recon, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[10:55] <ethan-allison> so i'm startin' up wifi_radar, and i get "eth1   Interface doesn't support scanning: Operation not supported".
[10:55] <ethan-allison> how do you add scan support?
[10:55] <bigmoe> for the xmms that come in the ubuntu repositories
[10:55] <jrattner1> Network Manager is the BEST wireless network manager for linux ever
[10:56] <recon> what do i click from there?
[10:56] <theine> recon, you would need to add the repository to /etc/apt/sources.list, but you can also just wget the .deb package and install with dpkg...
[10:57] <theine> recon, wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb
[10:57] <avrine> ?plugin for totem to play vcd or dvd it take long time
[10:57] <theine> recon, does that work?
[10:57] <recon> i got a 404 not found error
[10:58] <theine> recon, hmmm, maybe his repository is down...
[10:58] <theine> recon, yes, it seems so
[10:58] <recon> any quick fix?
[10:59] <recon> if you have it you can transfer it to me
[10:59] <recon> this is irc, after all
[10:59] <Madpilot> recon: you can get Sun Java from their website
[10:59] <theine> recon, it's too big i'm afraid
[10:59] <recon> i already have the rpm installed
[11:00] <theine> recon, you should definately use java-package instead of alien though
[11:00] <ethan-allison> jrattner1: the network-manager package, right?
[11:00] <recon> theine, ???
[11:00] <Ep|phany> anyone know how i can install quake4 with ubuntu?
[11:00] <nekohayo> hey there, wasn't breezy supposed to have a trick to "hide" the system menu for users without admin rights?
[11:00] <theine> recon, just a sec
[11:01] <nekohayo> keikoz: #ubuntu-fr ^^
[11:01] <erUSUL> ethan-allison, what's your model card, chip, driver? maybe scanning is not supported by driver?
[11:02] <theine> recon, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[11:02] <martin_> hey, I want to copy all my desktop icons and the menu to a fresh Ubuntu install, what folder are all the gnome prefs and icons in?
[11:02] <recon> OK
[11:02] <recon> brb
[11:02] <theine> recon, that should solve your problem
[11:02] <Madpilot> nekohayo: there're things in the System menu that you can do w/o admin rights...
[11:02] <erUSUL> martin_, move your entire home directory
[11:03] <martin_> tried that, the icons on the menu bar to get copied
[11:03] <recon> thanks
[11:03] <avrine> i try gcc a.cpp -o a.out but recive this error
[11:03] <avrine> /tmp/ccozyQ84.o:(.eh_frame+0x11): undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'
[11:03] <avrine> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[11:03] <theine> recon, welcome
[11:03] <flipy> I can't install ubuntu breezy! It gets stuck at "Loading module 'ide-cd'". I've tryed with the linux irqpoll acpi=off noapic nolapic but still no luck... any suggestion?
[11:04] <Habbie> flipy, is your drive a dvdrom drive?
[11:04] <flipy> no, it s LG 52X drive
[11:04] <Habbie> hmm, no idea then
[11:04] <nekohayo> Madpilot: huh? you have an example of that?
[11:04] <trappist> avrine: .c extensions are for gcc and .cpp for g++
[11:05] <nekohayo> Madpilot: oh sorry, not talking about the whole system menu
[11:05] <flipy> Habbie: what was going to be your advise?
[11:05] <Madpilot> nekohayo: "Take Screenshot"?
[11:05] <nekohayo> Madpilot: I mean the administration menu IN the system menu
[11:05] <nekohayo> sorry
[11:05] <Chopstix> how do it reboot with parameter rescue ?
[11:05] <Madpilot> nekohayo: ok, got you. might be an interesting idea to suggest to the devs, actually.
[11:05] <theine> flipy, you just need to wait for a long while
[11:05] <avrine> trappist: thanks
[11:05] <theine> flipy, eventually it will go on...
[11:06] <flipy> theine: I've done it... and nothing happen....
[11:06] <ancient> How do yo Apt-get apache web server ?
[11:06] <thedcm> my mum wanted to have me aborted
[11:06] <Razor-X> are there any good non-GTK or non-QT based PDF viewers other than xpdf?
[11:06] <flipy> it just get stuck on a blue screen, trying to find "media"
[11:06] <ancient> Whatsapt-get nemt for apache
[11:06] <Madpilot> nekohayo: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MenusRevisited/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MenusRevisited/Comments
[11:06] <trappist> avrine: btw I didn't know that before you asked, but the first 5 google hits all agreed.  google is your friend.
[11:06] <theine> flipy, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76482.html
[11:06] <nekohayo> Madpilot: but I was pretty sure it "was to be in 5.10" o_O I doubt I dreamed that one
[11:06] <nekohayo> oh thanks
[11:06] <erUSUL> Chopstix, telinit 1
[11:06] <theine> flipy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13471
[11:07] <flipy> but that doesn't work for me :(
[11:07] <Madpilot> Razor-X: Adobe Acrobat Reader is still the best - Evince isn't bad, though
[11:07] <Razor-X> Madpilot: does Evince use GTK?
[11:07] <thechitowncubs> Yes.
[11:07] <Razor-X> because xpdf is pretty... umm.. yeah
[11:07] <thechitowncubs> GTK2
[11:07] <Razor-X> you can't custom zoom, even
[11:07] <Amaranth> xpdf is dead
[11:07] <Razor-X> and that
[11:07] <Madpilot> Razor-X: yeah, it's Gnome's native PDF viewer - missed your non-GTK part
[11:07] <theine> flipy, oh, you already checked those threads?
[11:07] <ompaul> long live evince
[11:07] <flipy> yes...
[11:07] <Razor-X> Madpilot: heh
[11:07] <Amaranth> it's dead because poppler replaced it
[11:07] <Amaranth> and evince uses poppler
[11:08] <Razor-X> Amaranth: poppler hmmm?
[11:08] <Amaranth> http://poppler.freedesktop.org/
[11:08] <Razor-X> any non-GTK non-QT clients that use poppler?
[11:08] <theine> flipy, maybe remove you drive for the installation?
[11:08] <nekohayo> Madpilot: thanks for the link, this page is incredible!
[11:08] <flipy> theine: I've searched the forums for 2 days... but still no solution
[11:08] <Amaranth> Razor-X: none that i know of
[11:09] <flipy> theine: erhm... and how am I supposed to do the installation then?
[11:09] <Razor-X> Amaranth: :(
[11:09] <Amaranth> Razor-X: i think kpdf uses poppler now too, but that's qt :P
[11:09] <theine> flipy, right...
[11:09] <flipy> theine: erm
[11:09] <theine> flipy, guess it's too late for me...
[11:09] <Razor-X> Amaranth: I've always liked kpdf's rendering a lot, and kdvi
[11:09] <Razor-X> unfortunately, loading QT baggage is... not preferred
[11:09] <Amaranth> Razor-X: err
[11:09] <theine> flipy, have you got any other linux distros installed on that machine?
[11:09] <Razor-X> compared to xpdf, I mean
[11:09] <Amaranth> Razor-X: before poppler kpdf == xpdf == gpdf
[11:09] <flipy> is there any way to use another media? (usb stick, usb mass storage driver...)
[11:09] <Secreth`X> rofl somehow XMMS is the only player that actually can play my files :P
[11:09] <Razor-X> Amaranth: yeah, I know
[11:09] <Amaranth> Secreth`X: mp3s?
[11:09] <Razor-X> xpdf renders fine
[11:09] <flipy> theine: last week I've managed to install ubuntu-server (breezy also)
[11:10] <Secreth`X> yes amackay
[11:10] <Secreth`X> err
[11:10] <theine> flipy, you can install from a live-cd with debootstrap
[11:10] <Razor-X> it's just that, the interface is pretty bad
[11:10] <Secreth`X> yess Amaranth
[11:10] <Secreth`X> sorry..
[11:10] <flipy> but suddenly I've apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:10] <eliezer> hello people! im a new linux/ubuntu user and i just love it n_n
[11:10] <Razor-X> like xzgv has an excellent interface, and it doesen't use qt or GTK
[11:10] <avrine> bye bye
[11:10] <flipy> and all got wrong
[11:10] <Amaranth> Secreth`X: you got a PM
[11:10] <Secreth`X> rofl
[11:10] <Secreth`X> I saw
[11:10] <flipy> so I thought I'll install again with the normal CD...
[11:10] <Secreth`X> Thanks!
[11:10] <theine> flipy, all got wrong?
[11:10] <Secreth`X> I own you big time :)
[11:10] <flipy> theine: yes.... all messed up
[11:11] <Swamp_Donkey> hmm ok this is new to me ... how do i install my hardware on ubuntu? and check  if it's working?
[11:11] <ompaul> flipy, paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list into paste.ubuntulinus.nl
[11:11] <theine> flipy, that's unusual...
[11:11] <flipy> problems with packages, things not working (and the only thing that I've really wanted was usb mass storage automount :()
[11:11] <flipy> ompaul: I'm using the standard ones for my country
[11:11] <eliezer> anyone knows what can i do if the volume control (the speaker icon on the taskbar) is not accesible? audio is working fine. but i can't access to the volume control.
[11:11] <theine> flipy, what kind of problems?
[11:11] <ompaul> flipy, make me happy go on :-)
[11:11] <Amaranth> Razor-X: Your choices are GTK+, Qt, or GNUStep
[11:12] <Amaranth> Razor-X: for poppler frontends
[11:12] <Razor-X> Amaranth: GNUStep
[11:12] <flipy> ompaul: erm... the fact is that I can't boot into the box again...
[11:12] <tenzin_> anybody knows a benchmarking tool for my graphic-card that shows me the fps?? I want to overclock my grafic-card
[11:12] <R0bNyc> is ubuntu stable?
[11:12] <erUSUL> eliezer, add a volume control to the panel. right click on the bar and choose add to panel
[11:12] <R0bNyc> i wonder how can i be more up to date if possible
[11:12] <flipy> after I've tryed to install breezy (which I couldn't), the box won't boot... It gets stuck at "uncompressing"
[11:12] <Swamp_Donkey> :(
[11:12] <ompaul> flipy, tried recovery mode?
[11:12] <Amaranth> Razor-X: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/gsimageapps/trunk/Applications/Vindaloo/
[11:12] <trappist> R0bNyc: there's not a correct yes or no answer to that
[11:12] <R0bNyc> trappist, how come
[11:12] <blackvd> need some urgent help here,I'm running kde,but when I went into fluxbox to jack around wiht fixing the menu and what not, it somehow created my current porblem, which is I'm unable to log into kde now heres my error message...
[11:12] <Razor-X> Amaranth: thanks a bunch, i'll check it out
[11:12] <eliezer> anyone knows what can i do if the volume control (the speaker icon on the taskbar) is not accesible? audio is working fine. but i can't access to the volume control.
[11:13] <flipy> ompaul: tryed everything, even acpi=off
[11:13] <trappist> R0bNyc: how stable do you need?
[11:13] <theine> flipy, you can follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromAnotherDistro?highlight=%28distro%29
[11:13] <Madpilot> R0bNyc: you could start following the Dapper development, if you enjoy breaking your computer...
[11:13] <Secreth`X> Amaranth: can amaroK run on default Ubuntu (so, with gnome and not KDE) ?
[11:13] <blackvd> No write access to '/home/blackvd/.ICEauthority' kde unable to start
[11:13] <Habbie> Secreth`X, yes
[11:13] <Amaranth> Secreth`X: sure
[11:13] <theine> flipy, it's a little bit of a hussle though...
[11:13] <Amaranth> Secreth`X: it'll just look different
[11:13] <blackvd> then I click yes and get
[11:13] <R0bNyc> trappist, stable/up to date
[11:13] <Madpilot> blackvd: rm /.ICEauthority, then restart
[11:13] <blackvd> ok
[11:14] <Secreth`X> ok Thanks :)
[11:14] <R0bNyc> i can go to another distro and be stable/latest/greatest so im not sure here im new to this ubuntu stuff
[11:14] <trappist> R0bNyc: those two are trade-offs.  the more up to date a system is, the less stable it's likely to be.
[11:14] <flipy> theine: I'm thinking in buying a new CD reader... but it's weird... last week I've managed to install ubuntu-server :'(
[11:14] <eliezer> help me please ): // anyone knows what can i do if the volume control (the speaker icon on the taskbar) is not accesible? audio is working fine. but i can't access to the volume control.
[11:14] <trappist> R0bNyc: ubuntu is a pretty good balance.  not ancient like debian stable, but not so shiny-new that it's always broken.
[11:14] <R0bNyc> trappist, unfortunately some ppl think like that .. but most that know about it know is not true
[11:14] <trappist> R0bNyc: mkay.
[11:14] <theine> flipy, i think you should install ubuntu-server and try upgrading to ubuntu-desktop again
[11:14] <erUSUL> eliezer, add a volume control to the panel. right click on the bar and choose add to panel
[11:15] <russ_> i am trying to update to breezy from hoary
[11:15] <theine> flipy, it should really work without problems
[11:15] <R0bNyc> trappist, thanks but i can assure of u others not so many that are shiny new and 90% of the time are stable w/o any probs
[11:15] <russ_> and when i try getting the packages ubuntu-base
[11:15] <russ_> and ubuntu-desktop
[11:15] <trappist> R0bNyc: 90% != stable dude
[11:15] <flipy> theine: I've tryed it! Now I can't even install ubuntu-server! Get stuck at the same point!
[11:15] <eliezer> erUSUL, done.
[11:15] <flipy> :'(!!!!!!!!!
[11:15] <russ_> it says i have broken packages
[11:15] <R0bNyc> trappist, hey 90 is a lot
[11:15] <theine> flipy, oh, damn
[11:15] <trappist> ok
[11:16] <trappist> R0bNyc: if 90% is good to you then I can say yes, ubuntu is hella stable.
[11:16] <lanjelot> Hey. Do you guys know a way to disable the ctrl+alt+del shortcut that kills the x window server ?
[11:16] <theine> flipy, then you're stuck with debootstrap I guess
[11:16] <The_Vox> russ_: are you using apt or aptitude or what to do this?
[11:16] <Amaranth> R0bNyc: 90% doesn't get you lots of users, it gets you some users and lots of pissed off people
[11:16] <R0bNyc> trappist, lol anyway i can go debian sid or something
[11:16] <trappist> R0bNyc: but if 90% is good enough for you, you don't need to worry about stability
[11:16] <russ_> apt
[11:16] <theine> flipy, provided that you can get a linux live-cd to boot properly...
[11:16] <flipy> theine: oh well... if it's the only way...
[11:16] <flipy> theine: I'm used to run gentoo on my desktop computer
[11:16] <The_Vox> russ_: try with aptitude...it's algorythms to deal with broken packages are better
[11:17] <R0bNyc> well ubuntu is great for newbies since they dont really know about new pkgs or stuff
[11:17] <theine> flipy, then you should be in a good position for doing a debootstrap installation
[11:17] <russ_> The_Vox, what is the standard command for aptitude
[11:17] <russ_> The_Vox, usage...
[11:17] <theine> flipy, it somewhat resembles a stage 1 install...
[11:17] <trappist> R0bNyc: yeah newbies only know about vi and cat and echo
[11:17] <flipy> theine: well, how long can it take to install? (last gentoo installation went for almost 36h)
[11:17] <NotLarry> is it s/incorrect/correct ?
[11:17] <The_Vox> russ_: "sudo aptitude"
[11:17] <Secreth`X> Is it bad if you install kdelibs-bin and kdelibs-data on ubuntu?
[11:18] <Secreth`X> with gnome, I mean.
[11:18] <theine> flipy, you don't compile... that's the major difference
[11:18] <russ_> The_Vox, oh its a ui app
[11:18] <Amaranth> R0bNyc: We're more up-to-date than sid most of the time.
[11:18] <The_Vox> russ_: you can use it exactly like apt if you prefer (same switches and all), but I like the UI
[11:18] <Renegade> hey
[11:18] <R0bNyc> Amaranth, thats not what i heard
[11:18] <erUSUL> Secreth`X, no
[11:18] <R0bNyc> u guys are at least 6months behind sid
[11:18] <flipy> theine: so it's just a matter of download speed?
[11:18] <theine> flipy, yes
[11:18] <Secreth`X> erUSUL: ok. Thanks.
[11:18] <The_Vox> russ_: you can do the "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade" too if you prefer that
[11:18] <trappist> R0bNyc: are you here to troll or do you have a sensible question?
[11:18] <Amaranth> R0bNyc: Every 6 months we get about 6 months behind sid, sure. Then catch up again.
[11:18] <flipy> well
[11:18] <Renegade> i am new to Ubuntu and am wounder how i can get a program for WiFi since this use to be a windows pc
[11:18] <flipy> must thank you a lot theine for your time
[11:19] <theine> flipy, you're welcome
[11:19] <Renegade> laptop
[11:19] <eliezer> erUSUL: it says REGISTRY IS NOT THERE OR IS CORRUPTED, PLEASE UPDATE BY RUNNING GST-REGISTER. I did that and still doesn't work.
[11:19] <Amaranth> R0bNyc: But that's lots of small packages. For the big stuff we're almost always ahead. First debian-based with xorg, latest GNOME, etc
[11:19] <R0bNyc> trappist, no quesiton at the moment .. i'll be back going to take a nap
[11:19] <flipy> I'll try it (but indeed, is my cd-rom broken? because it's the second one that doesn't boot that %$&$& CD)
[11:19] <R0bNyc> Amaranth, there u got a point
[11:19] <R0bNyc> Amaranth, how about kde 3.5 ?
[11:19] <russ_> The_Vox, where would i find ubuntu-base, and ubuntu-desktop in the menus
[11:19] <Secreth`X> trappist are you dutch? :x
[11:19] <Amaranth> R0bNyc: If it's out and you're on x86 kubuntu probably has it.
[11:19] <theine> russ_, those aren't actual applications, so nowhere...
[11:20] <R0bNyc> Amaranth, no it snot out yet theres beta out
[11:20] <The_Vox> russ_: hit / then type what you want. With \ it goes to the next match
[11:20] <Amaranth> R0bNyc: iirc it was x86 only at the moment, but the packages should be there
[11:20] <R0bNyc> and it works pretty good in different distros of course
[11:20] <Amaranth> ok, for the beta then
[11:20] <humboldt> OpenOffice2-beta in Ubuntu sucks, bigtimes! Is there a relief in sight?
[11:20] <The_Vox> russ_: hit ? and it'll give you all the commands
[11:20] <humboldt> It crashes all the time!
[11:20] <theine> russ_, please ignore me
[11:20] <erUSUL> eliezer, 8| i've never heard such an error message. i'm puzzled
[11:20] <Amaranth> R0bNyc: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta2.php
[11:20] <R0bNyc> ty
[11:21] <eliezer> erUSUL: I understand, I guess it must be my motherboard because my audio card it's inherent to the motherboard. It works on Windows, though. I have partitioned my HD.
[11:22] <jeanluc> Hey Guys, What do I need to get from symaptic to decode WMV .MOV .AVI, ?
[11:22] <russ_> thanks guys
[11:22] <R0bNyc> Amaranth, u using it yet
[11:22] <russ_> this is my millionth attempt to update to breezy, having bad luck
[11:22] <Madpilot> !tell jeanluc about w32codecs
[11:22] <The_Vox> jeanluc: mplayer and the codecs package from mplayer's website
[11:22] <Amaranth> R0bNyc: I use GNOME.
[11:22] <R0bNyc> cool
[11:22] <The_Vox> russ_: do you currently have ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base metapackages installed in hoary?
[11:22] <refuze2looze> anybody here use an ipod with ubuntu?
[11:23] <fruud> im using KDE in ubuntu, can i in a way get the same "theme manager" from Ubuntu when its using gnome in KDE ?
[11:23] <russ_> im working on that now
[11:23] <Amaranth> fruud: You mean so you can set the theme for GNOME programs in KDE?
[11:23] <refuze2looze> fruud, KDE uses different themes than Gnome
[11:23] <olafura> banshee in dapper should work
[11:23] <olafura> for ipod
[11:23] <Amaranth> fruud: I think you need to have gnome-settings-daemon running to get that to work.
[11:23] <fruud> no no no, i want the same window manager etc etc
[11:23] <russ_> The_Vox, last time i up'd to breezy i had no text in firefox...
[11:23] <fruud> to set up my themes
[11:24] <The_Vox> russ_: ah, don't know about that...I'm running 1.5rc1
[11:24] <fruud> u know like clearlooks and industrial etc
[11:24] <ethan-alliso1> so i installed network-manager. now how do i run?
[11:24] <refuze2looze> olafura, what were you saying about ipod?
[11:24] <Welly> Hello all.. I'm currently running apache 1.3 on my machine, if i want to upgrade to apache 2, is it just a matter of apt-get install apache2? or do i need to do something else?
[11:25] <russ_> The_Vox, do i have to setup aptitude before doing a update and dist-update?
[11:25] <Blissex> russ_: no.
[11:25] <dell500> does anyone else have problems with random quits in apps in breezey?
[11:25] <The_Vox> Wellark: check your config files...there were some changes
[11:25] <The_Vox> russ_: no, it uses the same sources.list as apt
[11:25] <Paradoxx> any one know how i can get my cds ripped in mp3 format? atm sound juiver only has flac, wav and ogg
[11:26] <The_Vox> dell500: only licq is being stupid here, but it's not quitting, it's sig11'ing
[11:26] <russ_> The_Vox, so i have to change the sources.list to breezy sources still then...
[11:26] <refuze2looze> dell500, which apps?
[11:26] <The_Vox> Paradoxx: uhm..k3b does ripping, IIRC
[11:26] <dell500> The_Vox, ya
[11:26] <fruud> Amaranth, i want to have the same options as in using Gnome, just click the "themes" buttom from menu and so on
[11:26] <dell500> refuze2looze, sometimes gaim, sometimes my clock, sometimes firefox
[11:26] <dell500> that's about it though
[11:26] <Madpilot> Paradoxx: you can get SJ to rip mp3, I think, with the right codecs installed...
[11:26] <The_Vox> russ_: right...but first make sure you have ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop installed in hoary...install them if you don't...then change to breezy in sources.list and do the upgrade
[11:27] <Amaranth> fruud: That's not possible. You need to use KDE's configuration stuff to change KDE settings.
[11:27] <fruud> oke
[11:27] <Paradoxx> Madpilot: i downloaded the codecs for mp3 etc...
[11:27] <[t0rc] > !ati
[11:27] <ubotu> hmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[11:27] <Amaranth> let's see if ubotu is fixed yet
[11:27] <Amaranth> !+wine
[11:27] <Amaranth> nope
[11:27] <Hawkeye> Is it possible to override the umask setting of users in a specific directory ? For example, on most gnu/linux systems, the default umask is 022 (644), but I'd like to force the umask to 002 (664) in a directory (that's already chmod'd 2770)
[11:27] <Paradoxx> !sound juicer
[11:27] <ubotu> Paradoxx: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:27] <Paradoxx> !sound
[11:27] <ubotu> sound is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[11:27] <ethan-allison> so i installed network-manager. now how do i run it?
[11:27] <Paradoxx> !rip
[11:27] <ubotu> Paradoxx: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:27] <refuze2looze> dell500, i have no problem with gaim and the clock, but firefox exits for me when i change from a page that contains streaming media (which i solved but i guess your problem is different)
[11:28] <Blissex> Hawkeye: no, but look at ACLs
[11:28] <Paradoxx> !k3b
[11:28] <ubotu> well, k3b is "A sophisticated KDE cd burning application", its said to be the best burning GUI out there!
[11:28] <Madpilot> Amaranth: I think cafuego_ disabled the !+ feature
[11:28] <Hawkeye> Blissex: thanks, I figured as much
[11:28] <Amaranth> Madpilot: This is what I'm pissed about.
[11:28] <[t0rc] > !windmill
[11:28] <ubotu> [t0rc] : I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:28] <dell500> refuze2looze, ya, i'm not sure why it does it though, my memory is at 100% though, which kind of frightens me
[11:28] <Amaranth> Madpilot: Even worse is the attacking message it sends you when you try.
[11:28] <Madpilot> Amaranth: it was being used to spam the channel last week
[11:28] <Paradoxx> any other ideas how i can get to rip my cds in mp3?
[11:28] <Madpilot> !+opera
[11:28] <Amaranth> Madpilot: Bad users, don't break the bot.
[11:29] <Blissex> Paradoxx: I like a ripper called GrIP
[11:29] <Amaranth> ban the users :P
[11:29] <Paradoxx> !grip
[11:29] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Paradoxx
[11:29] <The_Vox> Blissex: grip is good
[11:29] <Madpilot> Amaranth: "no, I won't harass the entire channel for you"... heh
[11:29] <Paradoxx> kk, i'll try it out
[11:29] <Habbie> I rip with abcde
[11:29] <Chopstix2> can someone help me with these 20 steps? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20522
[11:29] <olafura> refuze2looze: banshee in dapper should  work with ipod
[11:29] <russ_> The_Vox, thanks again
[11:29] <The_Vox> russ_: np
[11:29] <russ_> The_Vox, im going to give this one more try
[11:30] <Seveas> Amaranth, it is totally insane to kick the bot becaus an abused feature is disabled
[11:30] <djm62> I rip to mp3 or ogg with sound juicer
[11:30] <dell500> gtkpod works great refuze2looze
[11:30] <Seveas> please don't do that again
[11:30] <anavim>  is there an ubuntu page about kernel dev volunteering?
[11:30] <refuze2looze> dell500, which program is using all the memory?
[11:30] <dell500> with my 5th gen video
[11:30] <Amaranth> Seveas: it's just noise in the channel as-is
[11:30] <Paradoxx> DJM62: how did you get it to work with mp3?
[11:30] <djm62> Paradoxx: you set it up with a gstreamer pipeline
[11:30] <dell500> refuze2looze, java, java_vm, nautilus, and firefox-bin
[11:30] <Paradoxx> how?
[11:30] <djm62> Paradoxx: 1 sec
[11:31] <refuze2looze> olafura, dell500, the problem i am having with the iPod is when i unmount it the "Do not disconnect" still appears on the iPod
[11:31] <dell500> refuze2looze, 310mb,230mb, 148mb, 116mb respectively
[11:31] <Habbie> refuze2lo, you need to send the ipod an eject event
[11:31] <russ_> The_Vox, what might i do after i get everything installed
[11:31] <Seveaz> Amaranth, it is not just noise, it is very helpful to havr him in the channel
[11:31] <Habbie> refuze2lo, however, you can in fact disconnect it safely after you just unmount
[11:31] <dell500> refuze2looze, um i just fixed that, hold on let me find it real quick
[11:31] <djm62> Paradoxx: http://www.emcken.dk/weblog/archives/99-MP3-encoding-with-Sound-Juicer.html
[11:32] <djm62> Paradoxx: those look like the recipe I followed (I don't pretend to 'get' gstreamer)
[11:32] <Paradoxx> djm62: kk m8, i'll try it out
[11:32] <BeGu> what is the best way to find out bitrate of .avi files?
[11:33] <The_Vox> russ_: reboot
[11:33] <refuze2looze> dell500, that's weird... firefox is using 111 for me but nautilus only 40.. what is java running for?
[11:33] <olafura> refuze2looze: Even when you disconnect it
[11:33] <The_Vox> russ_: you'll have new kernel, among other things, so you'll need a reboot
[11:33] <topyli> so i have managed to buy an non-supported bluetooth dongle. any suggestions for a replacement? epox? d-link perhaps?
[11:33] <dell500> refuze2looze, facebook for picture upload
[11:33] <russ_> The_Vox, thats it, nothing command line before i reboot
[11:33] <The_Vox> russ_: nothing that I can think of...I didn't to a thing before the reboot
[11:34] <russ_> The_Vox, ok
[11:34] <RedRose> how can i set it up so that a anonymous ftp user(vsftpd) can write and read a Dir, but not delete?
[11:34] <djm62> my system has regressed on power management, following hoary->breezy
[11:34] <gearry> so I am trying to get sleep/suspend working on my laptop
[11:34] <The_Vox> russ_: did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:34] <refuze2looze> olafura, i'm not gonna disconnect it when it says do not disconnect on it =)
[11:34] <gearry> djm62: I am having a similiar problem
[11:34] <russ_> The_Vox, yeah
[11:34] <Hex1> does anyone know what libraries you need to visit "https://" pages in Firefox (in Breezy) - i beleive i have them all, yet i can't visit any https sites, including gmail - this is the only reason I keep Windows on my machine
[11:34] <Habbie> Hex1, hmm, that always 'just worked' for me
[11:34] <dell500> refuze2looze, i think it's because i'm viewing a bunch of pictures in a folder
[11:34] <gearry> I am just noticing that all acpi related processes tend to hang on startup, restart, etc
[11:34] <action09> back !
[11:34] <russ_> The_Vox, it says after the upgrade to purge remove portmap
[11:35] <djm62> it no longer suspends to ram: how can I make it do so again, and how can I effectively report this to the appropriate people?
[11:35] <russ_> The_Vox, and to reinstall postfix
[11:35] <The_Vox> russ_: oh, that's new, wasn't there when I upgraded :)
[11:35] <refuze2looze> dell500, that still doesn't explain the weird crashing of gaim and nautilus.. are you using breezy?
[11:35] <ermo> I'm getting this: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libncurses5-dev_5.4-9ubuntu4_i386.deb (--unpack):
[11:35] <ermo>  unable to create `./usr/include/curses.h': Input/output error
[11:35] <Chopstix2>  how do i Add ehci_hcd on a line of /etc/mkinitrd/modules
[11:35] <Hex1> - Habbie Just worked?
[11:35] <Habbie> Hex1, yes, https just works for me
[11:35] <russ_> The_Vox, yeah, should i do that before reboot or after
[11:35] <The_Vox> russ_: I'd say before.
[11:35] <Habbie> ermo, Input/output errors can pooint to serious hardware issues :(
[11:35] <erUSUL> Hex1, no need for extra libraries afaik. it should have installed all dependencies
[11:35] <refuze2looze> dell500, by the way how did you fix the 'do not disconnect' with the ipod
[11:36] <RedRose> how can i set it up so that a anonymous ftp user(vsftpd) can write and read a Dir, but not delete or overwrite?
[11:36] <russ_> The_Vox, ok ill give it a shot
[11:36] <dell500> refuze2looze, i'm lookin' for it real quick, my cable is slow
[11:36] <ancient> Anyone willing to help me set up a webserver ...
[11:36] <Hex1> Habbie: I wish it would 'just work' for me - i need access to gmail
[11:36] <ermo> Habbie: ok? I've checked and rechecked my RAM with memtest86+ - it's all good.
[11:36] <action09> i went this afternoon and spoke about nvidia drivers installed from off. website.. , i tried now to install Ubuntu supported drivers by doing 1) apt-get install nvidia-glx 2) sudo nvidia-glx-config enable  3) strl + alt +backspace (relaunch X)  but no way:i.e: no nvidia logo and no modification ( s/nv/nvidia in xorg.conf..)
[11:36] <Hex1> erUSUL: Why isn't it working if you don't need extra libraries?
[11:36] <Habbie> wkj
[11:36] <Habbie> oops
[11:37] <erUSUL> djm62, open a bug in bugzilla
[11:37] <Habbie> ermo, how about your disk?
[11:37] <refuze2looze> dell500, thanks
[11:37] <Hex1> It always appears to be connecting for a long time then times out
[11:37] <ermo> Habbie: right, I was about to ask you about that. Bonnie++?
[11:37] <Habbie> Hex1, that sounds like more of a networking issue
[11:37] <Secreth`X> Im getting tired of this. Only XMMS is playing all my files, amaroK some, and the rest just doesnt :x
[11:37] <Habbie> ermo, bonnie++ is a good stresstest; I recommend smartmontools next to it
[11:37] <Paradoxx> ty guys, it seems to b work
[11:37] <djm62> erUSUL: good call, but it's very hw specific
[11:38] <Hex1> - Habbie Once I managed to open it in Epiphany, but never since
[11:38] <ermo> Habbie: mmm. That makes sense. Thanks for the heads up.
[11:38] <Welly> hi all.. i did -> apt-get remove apache
[11:38] <Habbie> ermo, good luck
[11:38] <djm62> erUSUL: and I'm not sure where the bug is (installer?)
[11:38] <erUSUL> Hex1, i do not know. any error messages? run from terminal to get them
[11:38] <RedRose> ancient:I Will
[11:38] <Welly> then apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4
[11:38] <topyli> Secreth`X: the rest of your players use gstreamer i guess, and you don't have the necessary codecs for it
[11:38] <Welly> but when i try to view php pages, it prompts me to save the file
[11:38] <ancient> RedRose What do i need for get Apache running
[11:38] <action09> damn :(   sudo nvidia-glx-config enable is not supposed to put nvidia instaled of nv in xorg.conf ?
[11:39] <RedRose> Welly, What are You Trying To Do
[11:39] <Secreth`X> topyli, I set amaroK to the arts plugin thing.
[11:39] <P00f> ubuntu 64 breaks my windows partition... if I install 32bit Ubuntu might I get teh same problems? windows always says cannot find a spacific file in windows32...
[11:39] <Secreth`X> But it doesnt play al my files either
[11:39] <Welly> RedRose: remove apache 1.3 and install apache 2
[11:39] <Hex1> erUSUL: ok, i'll try running it from terminal, one sec
[11:39] <topyli> Secreth`X: you use kde?
[11:39] <action09> it's why i tried to install nvidia drivers from website because this didn't work :(-
[11:39] <Secreth`X> no topyli, gnome.
[11:39] <refuze2looze> olafura, did you have the problem of 'do not disconnect' still on the ipod after unmounting?
[11:39] <RedRose> apt-get remove --purge apache
[11:40] <Welly> ok thanks
[11:40] <RedRose> apt-get install apahce2
[11:40] <RedRose> welly, check your PM's
[11:40] <topyli> Secreth`X: are you running arts in gnome then instead of gstreamer?
[11:40] <Secreth`X> ehh, yeah sort of
[11:40] <Secreth`X> only in amaroK though..
[11:40] <xx94> i completely killed my apt config
[11:40] <Welly> RedRose: my PMs?
[11:40] <RedRose> look up at the top tabs
[11:40] <topyli> Secreth`X: sorry, gstreamer is not exactly a sound server. i'm confused :)
[11:40] <RedRose> welly, are you using xchat?
[11:40] <Welly> redrose, no chatzilla
[11:41] <Secreth`X> :O
[11:41] <xx94> can someone send me theirs? :embarassed:
[11:41] <Amaranth> !+sources
[11:41] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:41] <RedRose> oh... are you in linux welly?
[11:41] <marlun> trappist, all done, have ubuntu installed now =)
[11:41] <topyli> Secreth`X: i'm not much of a kde expert :(
[11:41] <Welly> RedRose: oh PMs.. no, not received any! did you PM me?
[11:41] <Secreth`X> topyli
[11:41] <Welly> RedRose: not at the moment!
[11:41] <Secreth`X> someone gave me that link
[11:41] <Amaranth> it says it won't "harass the channel for me" but it does anyway
[11:41] <olafura> refuze2looze: I only have an Shuffle so I don't se it but the light is still blinking
[11:41] <Secreth`X> The one in your private
[11:42] <bimberi> Amaranth: it will if the factoid is short
[11:42] <ancient> Someone pastbin me a new complete sources.list please
[11:42] <topyli> Secreth`X: i have no private messages
[11:42] <RedRose> welly, use xchat
[11:42] <cafuego_> Amaranth: The !+ will not be fixed.
[11:42] <Secreth`X> from ubotu?
[11:42] <Amaranth> bimberi: I know. It's idea of "short" is too small"
[11:42] <Amaranth> cafuego_: Then the bot is worthless for me.
[11:42] <refuze2looze> olafura, oh.. and you just disconnect it anyways?
[11:42] <Hex1> erUSUL - no error messages, just times out after a while of 'connecting'
[11:42] <Secreth`X> misspelled your name, sorry..
[11:42] <bob2> ancient: if you trashed your, 'sudo apt-setup'.
[11:42] <Seveas> Amaranth, but it's very valuable for the rest
[11:42] <bimberi> Amaranth: it will make us more succint :)
[11:43] <El_Che> refuze2looze: do you unmountyour ipod befor disconnecting?
[11:43] <cafuego_> Amaranth: Well, if one op is going to kick it coz it posts alrge reponses and another because the responses are too short....
[11:43] <topyli> Secreth`X: oh, ok. i know the page and it's a fine page
[11:43] <ancient> bob2 no on a new system, need a updated system there
[11:43] <Secreth`X> yes
[11:43] <cafuego_> Amaranth: Then perhaps the ops should go huddle, chat, make a decision.
[11:43] <Secreth`X> But the gstreamers didnt work
[11:43] <Secreth`X> none of them
[11:43] <MaggieL> OK... services-admin doesn't seem to match the docs? There's no button for process properties.
[11:43] <bob2> ancient: then you need to be a lot more specific about what you want to do
[11:43] <Secreth`X> So I installed them via Synaptic
[11:43] <RedRose> ancient:Check Your PM's
[11:43] <cafuego_> As opposed to just kicking 'im off
[11:43] <bob2> ancient: are you trying to upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[11:43] <refuze2looze> El_Che, i haven't disconnected it. I unmount it and "Do not disconnect" still appears on the screen of the ipod
[11:43] <olafura> refuze2looze: Yes
[11:43] <ancient> breezy
[11:44] <bob2> I'd like the bot to stay.
[11:44] <Amaranth> cafuego_: The solution would either be increasing the limit and banning people that abuse it or just +q'ing it and getting it over with.
[11:44] <MaggieL> I'm also looking for what UI I use to I save Gnome sessions.
[11:44] <cafuego_> Amaranth: Yah, well. The banning is a policy decision that's up to you lot <heh>
[11:44] <El_Che> refuze2looze: then it's still mounted? see if it's mounted by typing "mount" in the commandline
[11:44] <Seveas> Amaranth, you're the only one that wants a change...
[11:44] <El_Che> got to fo
[11:44] <El_Che> go
[11:45] <bob2> Amaranth: er, I think there are lots of other options
[11:45] <Secreth`X> topyli still confused? :P
[11:45] <gearry> MaggieL: when you log out there is a check box to save your setttings
[11:45] <topyli> Secreth`X: the system may be confused by your using artsd and gstreamer together, i'm afraid to take any chance on this. a multimedia guru should take my place now :)
[11:45] <RedRose> my sshd doesn't show ' when transfering data, is puts an a with ^, how can i change it?
[11:45] <bimberi> cafuego_: could !+ be made only available to ops?
[11:45] <cafuego_> ... and not one I think should be on this channel...
[11:45] <Secreth`X> hehe k topyli
[11:45] <marlun> Is there a FTP application installed on ubuntu after install?
[11:45] <Secreth`X> thanks anyway
[11:45] <cafuego_> bimberi: maybe by someone who knows perl...
[11:45] <MaggieL> Gearry: Ach, yes...must have missed it
[11:45] <bob2> if people abuse !+, they can be removed
[11:45] <Seveas> marlun, places -> connect to server (in the menu)
[11:45] <djm62> marlun: nautilus has native  ftp support
[11:45] <MaggieL> Used to having a session manager gadget in the menus.
[11:45] <Hex1> does _anyone_ know why i can't connect to https
[11:45] <djm62> marlun: what seveas said better ;)
[11:45] <marlun> oh, okey =) thanks
[11:45] <refuze2looze> El_Che, no it's no longer mounted but i figured it out.. i remounted it and instead of umount i used eject and it worked.. interesting
[11:45] <RedRose> does apache2 run on top of apche1.3?
[11:45] <marlun> hehe
[11:46] <Secreth`X> bob2: whats different from ! and !+? :)
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[11:46] <meatwad65> anyone here use an alps touchpad with ubuntu?
[11:46] <cafuego_> RedRose: No, instead of.
[11:46] <DansFloyd> me
[11:46] <bob2> RedRose: no, they're basically unrelated web servers with similar names
[11:46] <Amaranth> *shrug*
[11:46] <ancient> someone please pastebin me a update working sources.list
[11:46] <Amaranth> If someone says !ops I'll come, otherwise I don't have time to help people anyway.
[11:46] <RedRose> oh... ok
[11:46] <NotLarry> Ok, I have a motorola pci wi-fi card plugged into a ubuntu box, I have followed instructions for ndiswrapper and modprobe, gone into the network settings and configured it and it says it is active... However
[11:46] <MaggieL> I do still need to get the CPU sensor daemon into services or something.
[11:46] <Amaranth> So you guys decide what you like.
[11:46] <RedRose> well which would you recommend?
[11:46] <bob2> ancient: what are you trying to do?
[11:47] <cafuego_> Amaranth: That's fine.
[11:47] <gearry> argh, I can't even get the option for sleep to appear on my logout screen
[11:47] <bob2> ancient: upgrade from one ubunutu version to another?
[11:47] <ancient> bob2 need to get apache2 through apt-get ...
[11:47] <gearry> I had this working in hoary, but in breezy, no go
[11:47] <RedRose> bob2:well which would you recommend?
[11:47] <superm1> Anyone here using network-manager found a useful way to disable the major networking stuff in the os so that network-manager can control it all instead of dealing with them fighting sometimes?
[11:47] <NotLarry> light on card is not lit and iwlist scan fails and iwlist power shows off
[11:47] <gearry> I edited /etc/default/acpi-support
[11:47] <gearry> but I can't seem to get it to run
[11:47] <gearry> all of my acpi related processes hang
[11:48] <nexus1001> alguien ke hable espaol ke me pueda ayudar por favor?
[11:48] <RedRose> bob2:well which would you recommend?
[11:48] <bob2> ancient: erm? what does that have to do with your sources.list?
[11:48] <djm62> nexus1001: try #ubuntu-es
[11:48] <nexus1001> thanks
[11:48] <pitillo> nexus1001, ves al canal ubuntu-es
[11:48] <bob2> RedRose: apache2 is the default supported one in ubuntu
[11:48] <bob2> superm1: remove all the "auto" lines from /etc/network/interfaces, aside from auto lo
[11:48] <superm1> okay thanks
[11:48] <RedRose> ok, but is there an advantage to one or the other?
[11:48] <ancient> bob2 it's iceman here... new system, going to make a server ... could go home and pastbin myself a working sources list, apt-get tells me there are problems with the one i got ...
[11:48] <bob2> gearry: what does 'sudo laptop-detect && echo true || echo false' print?
[11:49] <bob2> ancient: sudo apt-setup, as I said
[11:49] <RedRose> bob2:ok, but is there an advantage to one or the other?
[11:49] <ancient> bob2 still not working
[11:49] <bob2> RedRose: apache2 is newer and perhaps less tested, but 1.x is basically only getting bug fixes
[11:49] <bigmoe> one question is there a program on ubuntu that runs the video files like wmv, rm and others
[11:49] <bob2> ancient: which is not a useful description of the problem
[11:49] <RedRose> ok
[11:49] <cafuego_> Right then
[11:49] <ancient> eezy-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:50] <Secreth`X> :( where is ubotu going to?
[11:50] <bob2> ancient: I would have thought I'd made it clear over the past couple of months that you need to show things like your sources.list and the error from apt?
[11:50] <RedRose> casue apache2 won't work for me, it boots, then down nothing
[11:50] <bob2> ancient: uh, get rid of that line from your sources.list then
[11:50] <action09> \0/ Victory
[11:50] <bob2> refuze2looze: 'down nothing'?
[11:50] <maurycy> any ideas how to record shoutcast radio into mp3?
[11:50] <action09> my nvidia drivers are working now :)  cool, i missed to install linux-restricted-modules for my new smp kernel :)
[11:50] <ancient> bob2 can walk 3 blocks home, and send myself a good sources.list, or ask for one and save the walk
[11:50] <marlun> is there a editor with php syntax-coloring too? =)
[11:50] <bob2> ancient: um
[11:51] <djm62> maurycy: wget ?
[11:51] <gearry> bob2: sorry, nobody seemed interested so I shut it down and started packing to go home
[11:51] <bob2> ancient: apt-setup did not put a backports line in your sources.list
[11:51] <dell500> refuze2looze, i'm sorry this is takin' so long, i kinda lost it  again lol
[11:51] <gearry> I am rebooting now
[11:51] <ancient> nope
[11:51] <icewt> maurycy: (k)streamripper
[11:51] <Welly> how can you do an apt-get remove apache2 and it still be running?
[11:51] <bob2> marlun: emacs does (of course)
[11:51] <Welly> even after a reboot?
[11:51] <maurycy> djm62: it'd save me music to a mp3 format?
[11:51] <bob2> Welly: did you look and see what the "apache2" package contained?
[11:51] <cafuego_> Welly: 'apache2' isn't the server, it's apache2-mpm-prefork
[11:51] <Welly> oh ok
[11:51] <Welly> lol
[11:51] <bigmoe> is there a shortcut in ubuntu that switches btween desktops
[11:51] <bob2> Welly: it Depends on the actual apache2 server (apache2-mpm-prefork)
[11:52] <marlun> bob2, I'm new to this whole linux thing :) how do I open a file in emac?
[11:52] <djm62> maurycy: I've recorded netradio that way before, just captured the stream
[11:52] <cafuego_> or apache2-mpm-worker
[11:52] <jeanluc> hey I downloaded the w32codecs.deb how do I install?
[11:52] <maurycy> icewt: looks interesting, thank you guy
[11:52] <bob2> marlun: ah, emacs is probably not for you then.  does gedit do highlighting?
[11:52] <meatwad65> anyone here use a touchpad at all?
[11:52] <superm1> bigmoe: ctrl alt right
[11:52] <Seveas> jeanluc, sudo dpkg -i w32codecs.deb
[11:52] <bob2> ancient: so why is it in there?
[11:52] <superm1> bigmoe: and ctrl alt left
[11:53] <refuze2looze> dell500, i managed to get rid of the 'do not disconnect' by remounting it and instead of umount using eject
[11:53] <cafuego_> sorry about the spam
[11:53] <refuze2looze> dell500, you don't remmeber how you did it?
[11:53] <Welly> how do i see what php related packages are installed?
[11:53] <cafuego_> actually
[11:54] <jeanluc> ok the file name is w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb but I tried it in console and its not installing
[11:54] <superm1> /leave
[11:54] <bob2> Welly: dpkg -l
[11:54] <Welly> thanks
[11:54] <bob2> Welly: dpkg -l | grep '^ii.*php'
[11:54] <jeanluc> how do I install a .deb named w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb in the console?
[11:55] <Habbie> jeanluc, dpkg -i
[11:55] <ljl> jeanluc: dpkg -i packagename
[11:55] <jeanluc> its not working
[11:55] <jeanluc> oh
[11:55] <jeanluc> w8
[11:55] <bob2> dude
[11:55] <jeanluc> do I need to ls over to the directory?
[11:55] <dell500> refuze2looze, well there is a way of making it disconnect properly if you quit out of gtkpod, like it does it automatically
[11:55] <shinu> is there a nameserver command in ubuntu?
[11:55] <bob2> jeanluc: ls lists directories
[11:55] <jeanluc> kk
[11:55] <bob2> jeanluc: you may need to actually cd to the dir it is in, yes
[11:55] <jeanluc> well I will move it into my home
[11:55] <bob2> shinu: to do what?
[11:55] <LjL> jeanluc: you certainly must *be* in the directory where the file is, duh
[11:55] <jeanluc> lol
[11:55] <LjL> jeanluc: "cd" switches directories
[11:55] <dell500> refuze2looze, http://taint.org/wk/IpodOnBreezy
[11:55] <shinu> bob2: change nameserver?..
[11:56] <bob2> shinu: edit /etc/resolv.conf
[11:56] <refuze2looze> dell500, thanks
[11:56] <shinu> bob2: ah ok, can i set more than 2 nameservers?
[11:56] <phasegen> anyone have trouble getting audacity?
[11:57] <bob2> shinu: yes, but why?
[11:57] <jeanluc> Selecting previously deselected package w32codecs.
[11:57] <jeanluc> (Reading database ... 57447 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:57] <jeanluc> Unpacking w32codecs (from w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb) ...
[11:57] <jeanluc> Setting up w32codecs (20050412-0.0) ...
[11:57] <marlun> bob2, I don't know if gedit does syntax highlighting =)
[11:57] <LjL> shinu: 'course you can
[11:57] <jeanluc> this mean it installed ?
[11:57] <jeanluc> Selecting previously deselected package w32codecs.
[11:57] <jeanluc> (Reading database ... 57447 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:57] <jeanluc> Unpacking w32codecs (from w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb) ...
[11:57] <jeanluc> Setting up w32codecs (20050412-0.0) ...
[11:57] <bob2> shinu: it only moves onto the next if the one before is unreacable
[11:57] <gearry> bob2: when I run the command you listed it returns true
[11:57] <Habbie> jeanluc, yes
[11:57] <bob2> gearry: interesting
[11:57] <gearry> I am running on a toshiba 2100cdt
[11:57] <topyli> shinu: normally, the nameservers your isp provides should be enough. if not, you can blame them, not your system :)
[11:57] <shinu> bob2: just wondering, cause for example network-admin only lets me set 2
[11:57] <Habbie> bob2, I'd say explaining and pointing to a pastebin is more useful than requesting a part -after- the fact
[11:57] <LjL> jeanluc: yes, probably
[11:58] <jeanluc> kk
[11:58] <shinu> topyli: i see :D
[11:58] <agtnz> Hi, how do I change my 'sensible-browser'?
[11:58] <bob2> Habbie: yes, it was silly of me
[11:58] <jeanluc> so I needed that to play wma in totem?
[11:58] <bob2> I reacted too slowly and poorly, sorry.
[11:58] <Habbie> bob2, don't sweat it :)
[11:58] <shinu> topyli: i just thought that for each system i >should< use their nameservers in case they block others or something... but that doesnt make sense now i think about it :P
[11:58] <_Dez> ubuntu is great
[11:58] <duke3z> yay  Howdy
[11:58] <_Dez> anyway to speed up the boot process
[11:58] <bob2> shinu: you can put more in, but I have a feeling glibc ignores 3 onwards
[11:59] <bob2> tho I have nothing to cite
[11:59] <shinu> bob2: oh i see
[11:59] <LjL> shinu: look, i've just joined and i'm not sure what you're at, but i have dnsmasq installed, it's a tiny dns "proxy" server that caches dns queries, it's very easy to configure and helps for times when your ISP's dns isn't quite in its right mood
[11:59] <marlun> bob2, it did :) nice, thank you, I didn't think it would, tought it was a simple notepad ;P guess I'm still in windows.
[11:59] <duke3z> has anyone gotten Call of Duty 2 to run on this?
[11:59] <jeanluc> I installed the w32 codecs and when I try to play a wmv in totem i get this message Selecting previously deselected package w32codecs.
[11:59] <jeanluc> (Reading database ... 57447 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:59] <jeanluc> Unpacking w32codecs (from w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb) ...
[11:59] <jeanluc> Setting up w32codecs (20050412-0.0) ...
[11:59] <jeanluc> I mean this message here were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[12:00] <bob2> shinu: oh, I'm wrong, sorry
[12:00] <duke3z> has anyone gotten Call of Duty 2 to run on this?