=== claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.186.225] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@d-ip-129-15-214-144.wireless.ou.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.186.225] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A604D0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === spstarr_home [n=sh0n@CPEdeadbeef0000-CM000039d4cc6a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === spstarr_home [n=sh0n@CPEdeadbeef0000-CM000039d4cc6a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F76F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan_away [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-7.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _simon_ [n=simon@host-84-9-144-158.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:57] oh we dont have python2.4-sip4-kde3? [06:02] oh thats coming [06:02] that explains why its disabled in the rules file [06:02] having those .api files would be nice :) === hunger [n=hunger@p54A620CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.35.173] has joined #kubuntu-devel === paulproteus|jhu [n=acmguest@eridani.acm.jhu.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:50] Riddell, Please ship my patch for http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18803 ! :) === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@rrba-146-120-32.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-252-046.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_ [n=hunger@p54A62F64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-157-212-133.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-156-95-26.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:02] Riddell, are you keeping ivman for dapper? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:05] i dont think he is [11:05] kde 3.5 supports it by default as far as i know [11:13] viviersf, ok then I may hijack it for xubuntu :) [11:13] btw was anything wrong with ivman in ligt of your experience so far? [11:13] hehe [11:13] no major things [11:13] its just it mounts any cd [11:14] and when you like want to erase a cdrw [11:14] its mounted and cant be erased [11:14] thus it gets annoying [11:14] maby if some1 made that if a format call was done [11:14] that it got unmounted [11:14] its all problem i have had with it] [11:18] thanks [11:19] I wish there was such a tool which worked nicely across all desktops === chmj [n=chmj@196.36.161.235] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:11] haai! === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-84-9-35-138.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:05] janimo: I don't think we'll keep it [01:06] is the kde3.5 way still using HAL? [01:07] no chance of a common kde/gnome way for this? [01:07] googling for kde3.5 volume manager goves no result, do you have a link to what it will be? [01:07] thanks [01:08] janimo: it uses HAL yes [01:08] it's a kded module that monitors media:/ for changes [01:08] JRe wrote it [01:09] is dbus going to be in kde? [01:09] it's used for media:/ and k3b [01:10] it should replace dcop in kde 4 if anyone gets round to writing it [01:11] is it this one http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/kde/kdenonbeta/kvm? [01:11] sorry for the '?' [01:15] no [01:15] kdebase/kioslave/media/medianotifier === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-254-035.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DrakeSon [n=Drakeson@69.158.170.223] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DrakeSon [n=Drakeson@69.158.170.223] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef is now known as pef_aw === _simon__ [n=simon@host-84-9-144-158.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-156-95-26.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A612AF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D1EEA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lamont [n=lamont@c-24-6-161-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:52] Riddell: breezy-updates has a newer version of kdepim than dapper... is that something you want to drop in dapper, or should I base my dapper upload on that?? [05:52] (fixing build-deps) === lamont decides to actually _look_ at -3 and see what's diff === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:03] lamont: I'll update dapper today or tomorrow [06:06] Riddell: um, ok... I just uploaded -ubuntu4 a few minutes ago, with the build-dep fix [06:06] to dapper [06:06] lamont: ok, cool. I'm packaging kde 3.5 now [06:07] part of me thinks that dapper should have picked the breezy-updates version, rather than breezy version, but that's a katie question that goes away shortly... [06:07] cool === lamont wanders === _olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-153-70-217.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A6232C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === spstarr_work [n=spstarr@192.219.104.10] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:47] hi folks [07:47] how is packaging doing? ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/3.5-rc1/src [07:50] jeroenvrp: it's going [07:50] but we weren't given any warning [07:50] Riddell: allrighty [07:50] no warning? [07:51] well coolo only put it on the server 24 hours ago, normally we get a week to package stuff [07:51] that's a shame yes [07:52] allthough I expected allready the 9th [07:52] and asked yesterday in #kde and they said it should be released today [07:54] Riddell: good luck === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Get] === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-128-039.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:43] sh [09:43] do we have a python2.4-sip4-kde3 package in the works? [09:43] ask \sh_away [10:13] anyone know where breezy.buildd is? dosen't seem to be in debootstrap [10:14] hmm weird its on one machine but not my home desktop [10:16] should be in the breezy debootstrap package [10:16] yeah weird [10:28] anyone know what the following means? : [10:28] make[1] : *** No rule to make target `/config.status', needed by `/Makefile'. Stop. [10:29] from running dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [10:30] seaLne: what are you building? [10:30] try running debuild [10:31] try running make -f admin/Makefile.common [10:31] kcfgcreator [10:31] debuild stops with the same [10:32] hmm runing make -f admin/Makefile.common seems to be getting it to do something [10:32] then run debuild again after that [10:33] ta [10:33] (debuild runs dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot plus some extra checks) [10:33] nice lots of errors: "warning: 'struct QUType_charstar' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor" [10:34] that's a warning, not an error. there's a big difference [10:35] k, must be failing on something else then [10:35] if make fails then somewhere there will be an error [10:36] yeah, i'm a bit rusty [10:36] token.h:75: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'Memento' with no type [10:36] token.h:75: error: 'Memento' declared as a 'virtual' field [10:36] token.h:75: error: expected ';' before '*' token [10:37] that'll be GCC 4 then [10:37] did you get the source from SVN? [10:37] no tarball [10:38] it should be fixed in SVN for GCC 4, grab the latest version of that file [10:38] it probably just needs a "class Memento;" somewhere at the top [10:41] yep has that in trunk and it now builds [10:42] thanks, i don't think i'd have worked that out [10:46] another problem i had tho was trying to use cddb, when running debian/rules clean i get: [10:47] dh_testdir: cannot read debian/control: No such file or directory [10:47] i have "DEB_AUTO_UPDATE_DEBIAN_CONTROL := yes" as the first non comment in debian/rules [10:49] get rid of that, it sounds evil [10:49] do you have a debian/control file still? [10:50] no was trying to use cddb t generate it from debian/control.in? [10:51] don't, that's evil [10:51] bah, sounded easier [10:56] bah is there a way to get debuild to not try to sign the package? [10:57] debuild -us -uc [10:57] but if it fails on gpg that means it's got to the end so it's all good [10:57] yep :) [10:57] i just don't leave my key at work [10:58] you don't trust the your own computer network? [10:58] i don't want it on backups [10:59] i suppose i could symlink it to the local hard disk [11:09] so if pbuilder dosen't give any errors that the package good for dependancies yeah? === seaLne wonders why nothing complained about the change to the sources, i'd not made a patch file === seaLne is feeling way too much like a newbie [11:12] another error: [11:12] kd@napier-01:~/dev/ubuntu/breezy/kcfgcreator/kcfgcreator-0.3.1$ cdbs-edit-patch 01-gcc [11:12] Cleaning in directory . [11:12] debian/rules:45: *** target file `clean' has both : and :: entries. Stop. [11:12] debuild: fatal error at line 842: [11:12] couldn't exec fakeroot debian/rules: [11:12] debian/rules:45: *** target file `clean' has both : and :: entries. Stop. [11:14] is there a clean: entry in debian/rules? [11:14] yep [11:14] it looks fine [11:15] i included /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk in debian/rules [11:15] and is there a clean:: entry? [11:15] simple-patchsys doesn't use cdbs-edit-patch [11:15] you have to make the .diff file manually [11:15] ah right [11:25] Riddell: any idea how fast will X.org 7.0 have ubuntu packages after release? [11:25] (RC2 out) [11:26] Tm_T: pretty fast [11:33] but not in breezy? [11:33] in or to [11:35] no, not in breezy [11:39] I thought so :/ [11:39] Tm_T: something you want in it? === olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-153-70-217.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:40] it's new, people say it's better, ofcourse I want it! ;) [11:40] same old X protocol [11:40] no, I don't actually even know what's improved in it, but I like to test new stuff [11:41] serving X just the same since 1985 [11:41] yes [11:41] dapper should be quite safe [11:41] heh [11:41] not as borkage as breezy was? [11:41] shouldn't be, no big transitions happeneing [11:42] ah, good [11:42] one more thing, we need newer freeciv packages [11:43] well, you know where revu is :) [11:43] I tried compile myself, and tried packages my friend made to sarge:bot say when I try to run civclient "*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x082cbf40 ***" [11:43] s/bot/both [11:44] dunno is it me or something else [11:45] not good [11:46] not at all [11:46] actually inkscape gave me that couple times [11:46] havent tried it since [11:48] any idea why that happens? [11:49] calling free twice on something? [11:50] hmm, and what's different in kubuntu/my system that causes that? same packages is working fine in sarge [11:50] did you recompile? [11:51] yes, tried almost everything [11:51] I haven't reinstalled my sytem yet [11:51] or standing in my head and praying moon gods [11:52] they never listen to me [11:52] sad [11:58] Riddell: http://edevelop.org/node/1601 [11:58] hmm, strange [11:59] I might even try that :p