[05:57] <spstarr_home> oh we dont have python2.4-sip4-kde3?
[06:02] <spstarr_home> oh thats coming
[06:02] <spstarr_home> that explains why its disabled in the rules file
[06:02] <spstarr_home> having those .api files would be nice :)
[06:50] <paulproteus|jhu> Riddell, Please ship my patch for http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18803 ! :)
[11:02] <janimo> Riddell, are you keeping ivman for dapper?
[11:05] <viviersf> i dont think he is
[11:05] <viviersf> kde 3.5 supports it by default as far as i know
[11:13] <janimo> viviersf, ok then I may hijack it for xubuntu :)
[11:13] <janimo> btw was anything wrong with ivman in ligt of your experience so far?
[11:13] <viviersf> hehe
[11:13] <viviersf> no major things
[11:13] <viviersf> its just it mounts any cd
[11:14] <viviersf> and when you like want to erase a cdrw
[11:14] <viviersf> its mounted and cant be erased
[11:14] <viviersf> thus it gets annoying
[11:14] <viviersf> maby if some1 made that if a format call was done 
[11:14] <viviersf> that it got unmounted
[11:14] <viviersf> its all problem i have had with it] 
[11:18] <janimo> thanks
[11:19] <janimo> I wish there was such a tool which worked nicely across all desktops
[12:11] <chmj> haai!
[01:05] <Riddell> janimo: I don't think we'll keep it
[01:06] <janimo> is the kde3.5 way still using HAL?
[01:07] <janimo> no chance of a common kde/gnome way for this?
[01:07] <janimo> googling for kde3.5 volume manager goves no result, do you have a link to what it will be?
[01:07] <janimo> thanks
[01:08] <Riddell> janimo: it uses HAL yes
[01:08] <Riddell> it's a kded module that monitors media:/ for changes
[01:08] <Riddell> JRe wrote it
[01:09] <janimo> is dbus going to be in kde?
[01:09] <Riddell> it's used for media:/ and k3b
[01:10] <Riddell> it should replace dcop in kde 4 if anyone gets round to writing it
[01:11] <janimo> is it this one http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/kde/kdenonbeta/kvm?
[01:11] <janimo> sorry for the '?'
[01:15] <Riddell> no
[01:15] <Riddell> kdebase/kioslave/media/medianotifier
[05:52] <lamont> Riddell: breezy-updates has a newer version of kdepim than dapper... is that something you want to drop in dapper, or should I base my dapper upload on that??
[05:52] <lamont> (fixing build-deps)
[06:03] <Riddell> lamont: I'll update dapper today or tomorrow
[06:06] <lamont> Riddell: um, ok... I just uploaded -ubuntu4 a few minutes ago, with the build-dep fix
[06:06] <lamont> to dapper
[06:06] <Riddell> lamont: ok, cool.  I'm packaging kde 3.5 now
[06:07] <lamont> part of me thinks that dapper should have picked the breezy-updates version, rather than breezy version, but that's a katie question that goes away shortly...
[06:07] <lamont> cool
[07:47] <jeroenvrp> hi folks
[07:47] <jeroenvrp> how is packaging doing? ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/3.5-rc1/src
[07:50] <Riddell> jeroenvrp: it's going
[07:50] <Riddell> but we weren't given any warning
[07:50] <jeroenvrp> Riddell: allrighty
[07:50] <jeroenvrp> no warning?
[07:51] <Riddell> well coolo only put it on the server 24 hours ago, normally we get a week to package stuff
[07:51] <jeroenvrp> that's a shame yes
[07:52] <jeroenvrp> allthough I expected allready the 9th
[07:52] <jeroenvrp> and asked yesterday in #kde and they said it should be released today
[07:54] <jeroenvrp> Riddell: good luck
[09:43] <spstarr_work> sh
[09:43] <spstarr_work> do we have a python2.4-sip4-kde3 package in the works?
[09:43] <Riddell> ask \sh_away 
[10:13] <seaLne> anyone know where breezy.buildd is?  dosen't seem to be in debootstrap
[10:14] <seaLne> hmm weird its on one machine but not my home desktop
[10:16] <Riddell> should be in the breezy debootstrap package
[10:16] <seaLne> yeah weird
[10:28] <seaLne> anyone know what the following means? :
[10:28] <seaLne> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `/config.status', needed by `/Makefile'.  Stop.
[10:29] <seaLne> from running dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[10:30] <Riddell> seaLne: what are you building?
[10:30] <Riddell> try running debuild
[10:31] <Riddell> try running   make -f admin/Makefile.common
[10:31] <seaLne> kcfgcreator
[10:31] <seaLne> debuild stops with the same
[10:32] <seaLne> hmm runing make -f admin/Makefile.common seems to be getting it to do something
[10:32] <Riddell> then run debuild  again after that
[10:33] <seaLne> ta
[10:33] <Riddell> (debuild runs dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot plus some extra checks)
[10:33] <seaLne> nice lots of errors: "warning: 'struct QUType_charstar' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor"
[10:34] <Riddell> that's a warning, not an error.  there's a big difference
[10:35] <seaLne> k, must be failing on something else then
[10:35] <Riddell> if make fails then somewhere there will be an error
[10:36] <seaLne> yeah, i'm a bit rusty
[10:36] <seaLne> token.h:75: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'Memento' with no type
[10:36] <seaLne> token.h:75: error: 'Memento' declared as a 'virtual' field
[10:36] <seaLne> token.h:75: error: expected ';' before '*' token
[10:37] <Riddell> that'll be GCC 4 then
[10:37] <Riddell> did you get the source from SVN?
[10:37] <seaLne> no tarball
[10:38] <Riddell> it should be fixed in SVN for GCC 4, grab the latest version of that file
[10:38] <Riddell> it probably just needs a "class Memento;" somewhere at the top
[10:41] <seaLne> yep has that in trunk and it now builds
[10:42] <seaLne> thanks, i don't think i'd have worked that out
[10:46] <seaLne> another problem i had tho was trying to use cddb, when running debian/rules clean i get:
[10:47] <seaLne> dh_testdir: cannot read debian/control: No such file or directory
[10:47] <seaLne> i have "DEB_AUTO_UPDATE_DEBIAN_CONTROL := yes" as the first non comment in debian/rules
[10:49] <Riddell> get rid of that, it sounds evil
[10:49] <Riddell> do you have a debian/control file still?
[10:50] <seaLne> no was trying to use cddb t generate it from debian/control.in?
[10:51] <Riddell> don't, that's evil
[10:51] <seaLne> bah, sounded easier
[10:56] <seaLne> bah is there a way to get debuild to not try to sign the package?
[10:57] <Riddell> debuild -us -uc
[10:57] <Riddell> but if it fails on gpg that means it's got to the end so it's all good
[10:57] <seaLne> yep :)
[10:57] <seaLne> i just don't leave my key at work
[10:58] <Riddell> you don't trust the your own computer network?
[10:58] <seaLne> i don't want it on backups
[10:59] <seaLne> i suppose i could symlink it to the local hard disk
[11:09] <seaLne> so if pbuilder dosen't give any errors that the package good for dependancies yeah?
[11:12] <seaLne> another error:
[11:12] <seaLne> kd@napier-01:~/dev/ubuntu/breezy/kcfgcreator/kcfgcreator-0.3.1$ cdbs-edit-patch 01-gcc
[11:12] <seaLne> Cleaning in directory .
[11:12] <seaLne> debian/rules:45: *** target file `clean' has both : and :: entries.  Stop.
[11:12] <seaLne> debuild: fatal error at line 842:
[11:12] <seaLne> couldn't exec fakeroot debian/rules:
[11:12] <seaLne> debian/rules:45: *** target file `clean' has both : and :: entries.  Stop.
[11:14] <Riddell> is there a clean: entry in debian/rules?
[11:14] <seaLne> yep
[11:14] <seaLne> it looks fine
[11:15] <seaLne> i included /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk in debian/rules
[11:15] <Riddell> and is there a clean:: entry?
[11:15] <Riddell> simple-patchsys doesn't use cdbs-edit-patch
[11:15] <Riddell> you have to make the .diff file manually
[11:15] <seaLne> ah right
[11:25] <Tm_T> Riddell: any idea how fast will X.org 7.0 have ubuntu packages after release?
[11:25] <Tm_T> (RC2 out)
[11:26] <Riddell> Tm_T: pretty fast
[11:33] <Tm_T> but not in breezy?
[11:33] <Tm_T> in or to
[11:35] <Riddell> no, not in breezy
[11:39] <Tm_T> I thought so :/
[11:39] <Riddell> Tm_T: something you want in it?
[11:40] <Tm_T> it's new, people say it's better, ofcourse I want it! ;)
[11:40] <Riddell> same old X protocol
[11:40] <Tm_T> no, I don't actually even know what's improved in it, but I like to test new stuff
[11:41] <Riddell> serving X just the same since 1985
[11:41] <Tm_T> yes
[11:41] <Riddell> dapper should be quite safe
[11:41] <Tm_T> heh
[11:41] <Tm_T> not as borkage as breezy was?
[11:41] <Riddell> shouldn't be, no big transitions happeneing
[11:42] <Tm_T> ah, good
[11:42] <Tm_T> one more thing, we need newer freeciv packages
[11:43] <Riddell> well, you know where revu is :)
[11:43] <Tm_T> I tried compile myself, and tried packages my friend made to sarge:bot say when I try to run civclient "*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x082cbf40 ***"
[11:43] <Tm_T> s/bot/both
[11:44] <Tm_T> dunno is it me or something else
[11:45] <Riddell> not good
[11:46] <Tm_T> not at all
[11:46] <Tm_T> actually inkscape gave me that couple times
[11:46] <Tm_T> havent tried it since
[11:48] <Tm_T> any idea why that happens?
[11:49] <Riddell> calling free twice on something?
[11:50] <Tm_T> hmm, and what's different in kubuntu/my system that causes that? same packages is working fine in sarge
[11:50] <Riddell> did you recompile?
[11:51] <Tm_T> yes, tried almost everything
[11:51] <Tm_T> I haven't reinstalled my sytem yet
[11:51] <Tm_T> or standing in my head and praying moon gods
[11:52] <Riddell> they never listen to me
[11:52] <Tm_T> sad
[11:58] <Tm_T> Riddell: http://edevelop.org/node/1601
[11:58] <Tm_T> hmm, strange
[11:59] <Tm_T> I might even try that :p