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Flying_Eaglehmmm... well, ill tidy up my room and my mind12:05
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toko1213please turn me onto the univiiverse repository for US thanks12:23
toko1213adapt shows none listed12:23
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:24
matteoanyone can help? i need to list all the hard disks plugged to my computer, can't find a suitable command12:25
toko1213thnaks but where is the file in /etc to add the sources ?12:32
LjLin /etc/apt/sources.list12:32
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kakaltois anyone else having troubles downloading the kubuntu install cd torrent?12:49
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kakaltois anyone actually alive in this channel?12:51
gerardocbI'm not12:51
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kakaltomine stopped at 98.71%, and won't go furthre12:52
gerardocbDownload the ISO...12:52
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kakaltomy connection is limited.... I would prefer to find out why it's doing that, than just accept "it doesn't work", and go waste more of my download month12:53
gerardocbMay be you'll waste another month trying to find out what happened, rather than downloading the ISO...12:54
kakaltosurely it's a program problem or something, I wouldn't think that there would be no seeds12:55
kakaltoI have an idea...12:56
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toko1213thanks got the repository adapt working01:09
toko1213now have access to 17000+ packages01:09
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KaoticEvilwhere the heck does image magick install itself?01:14
HobbseeKaoticEvil: use the find?01:15
Hobbsee /usr/bin seems to be where a lot of programs go01:15
KaoticEvilHobbsee:  checked there .)01:15
KaoticEvilfirst place i checked01:15
Hobbseeused the find function, for the program name?01:15
KaoticEvilworking on that now..01:16
Hobbseeset it to search across /01:16
Hobbseenot just in your home folders01:16
KaoticEvilapt-get says its installed... 01:17
kakaltoI'm hungry :(01:17
kakaltoI can't eat for another 10-15 mins01:17
KaoticEvilits not in my K menu... 01:17
Hobbseedoesnt mean it's not there though01:17
Hobbseedid the find function find it?01:17
Hobbseehmmm...that's odd01:18
KaoticEvilyeah, thats what i said...01:18
kakaltoJust out of curiousity, generally, is there any major annoyances of kubuntu?01:19
Hobbseeah..i see...01:19
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toko1213is there a way to get standard root on kubuntu instead of all this sudo stuff?01:19
Hobbseei was assuming it was a .deb or something, which will usually put itself in teh menus01:19
uboturumour has it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo01:19
Hobbsee!tell toko1213 about root01:19
KaoticEvilheh ;)01:19
Hobbseequick KaoticEvil :P01:19
KaoticEvil. o O ( thats not what she said.... )01:20
toko1213linux user for 6 years01:20
toko1213red-hat 601:20
Hobbseeif you search for "ImageMagick" - does it find it?01:20
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Hobbseeyeah, there's root access if you want it01:20
Hobbseethat page tells you how to get it, and why it's a bad idea01:20
toko1213it's just one more thing to learn which seems unnecessary01:21
toko1213and I'm not talking about sudo -s01:21
Hobbseesudo?  it's only four letters01:21
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toko1213I think i understand the concept but what is the root passwd {default}01:22
KaoticEvilHobbsee:  theres a few files in /usr/share... 01:22
KaoticEviltoko1213:  your first user password01:22
Hobbseetoko1213: you set it, go read that page01:22
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HobbseeKaoticEvil: nah, that's the sudo one01:22
KaoticEviloh, yeah.. heh01:22
KaoticEvili dont think its really installed.01:23
Hobbseeis there some sort of executable in /usr/share?01:23
toko1213$su passwd same as sudo -s no 01:23
Hobbseeand can you run it from the konsole?01:23
toko1213authentication error?01:23
KaoticEvilHobbsee:  no, there isnt01:23
Hobbseeand can you run it from the konsole?01:24
KaoticEvilno, theres no executable :P01:24
toko1213$su passwd same as sudo -s? answer  no 01:24
KaoticEviltoko1213:  sudo -s01:24
KaoticEvilthen passwd01:24
toko1213I know that01:24
Hobbseetoko1213: did you go and read that wiki page?  it explains all this stuff pretty well01:25
toko1213but waht is the default passwd for su?01:25
KaoticEvilthen login with root.01:25
KaoticEvilthats how i did it last nite... to get init 101:25
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Hobbseeah ok, yep01:26
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KaoticEviltoko1213:  there is no default password..01:26
KaoticEvilHobbsee:  i wasnt sure if  wias going to *stay* linux or not01:26
Hobbseewhy'd you have to do that as root?  you can use kdesu konqueror if you'd wanted to01:26
Hobbseeah...ok...yes, i see01:27
kakaltoktorrent is te h screwy01:27
KaoticEvilbecause it was on the same partition as /01:27
kakaltogerardocb, lucky I didn't just start up a direct dl, I managed to get the torrent working01:28
Hobbseewell, yeah, that's why it needed moving lol01:28
Hobbseedont worry01:28
Hobbseei suppose that konqueror as root is about as damaging as logging in as root, in terms of moving files01:28
KaoticEvilHobbsee:  yup... i moved it to a partition that was FAT32... it had my windows data on it... i did it that way because iw asnt sure if i was gonna keep linux installed or not01:28
Hobbseeah ok, yep01:28
KaoticEvili installed 5 different distros...01:28
Hobbseewhich ones?01:29
KaoticEvilslack9, slack 10.2, SuSE 9.1 (personal! *vomit*), vector, and gentoo (ok, that one i didnt install.. but i tried! lol)01:29
KaoticEviland i had heard about ubuntu.. but some one told me that it was pure Gnome.01:29
toko1213oops sorry01:30
KaoticEvili cant stand Gnome01:30
KaoticEviland then i was told about kubuntu... so i figured wth.. why not... and i love it :)01:30
Hobbseehehe nice01:30
toko1213kdeedu is a real impressinve package for demonstaring linux strengths01:30
kakaltoonce you've finished this story, can ya tell me of your gentoo experiences? that makes a good story01:30
toko1213to MS dominated school districts01:30
KaoticEvilHobbsee:  well, ive used slack for a while before..01:31
KaoticEvili *like* slackware.. but i was irritated by the pack of a dep-resolver...01:32
Hobbseeah yes, never tried it01:32
KaoticEvilslack is a good learnig experience... almost *nothing* is done for you lol01:32
Hobbseeall the more reason not to try it!01:32
KaoticEviland that is VERY frustrating for some one who is new to linux and doesnt really have anyone to help them out01:32
KaoticEvillike me01:33
Hobbseei'll bet01:33
kakaltodepends if ya want a crash course on linux or not :)01:33
kakaltomy first linux was gentoo...01:33
KaoticEvili did... 01:33
kakaltothat was ....01:33
toko1213I rather like slack for a server the closest thing to bsd linux has to offer01:33
toko1213great documentation01:33
KaoticEviltoko1213:  exactly01:33
KaoticEvilthats what im going to put on this box when i build me a new one01:34
toko1213however I'm running kubuntu on this box because I need a demonstration computer for a school district01:34
KaoticEviland but kubuntu on my new one :P01:34
toko1213I thing they will be impredded with kdeedu specically ksatrs ktouch and kig01:35
toko1213I'll also have scribus and rosegarden two killer apps01:35
toko1213sound is a piece of cake on kubuntu01:36
KaoticEvilok.. forget this.01:37
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Hobbseewhat'd you think of gentoo?01:37
KaoticEvilkakalto:  gentoo was your first linux?! O.O01:37
kakaltoit was the only one I could get my hands on....01:38
mornfallHobbsee: nothing good01:38
kakaltoi had 56k back then01:38
Hobbseei considered using it as the first one, then gave up01:38
KaoticEvilkakalto:  ah, ok01:38
Hobbseelol mornfall101:38
KaoticEvili downloaded slack9 on dialup :P01:38
kakaltothat was a mission01:38
KaoticEviland mdk7.201:38
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kakaltoah, forgot to mention... my dialup was a stupid pay-per-hour plan01:39
KaoticEviloh, wow01:39
chironI have no idea what I did, but now my wireless card doesn't connect on boot01:39
chironI think it happened when I was trying to fix Samba last night...01:39
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kakaltobut yeah... gentoo as first linux was evil. after my day or two compiling, I had my desktop... with no sound, and a few other issues I couldn't seem to fix01:41
kakaltoso I switched to ubuntu :)01:41
chironI know last time it messed up when I deleted the line to start my wireless card01:41
chironbut I swear I didn't do that this time01:41
kakaltoubuntu got boring, so I switched to suse.... something I will likely never do again, I didn't like suse... so I went back and made my gentoo again...01:42
kakaltothis time, no issues except java01:42
chironkakalto: why are you in the Kubuntu channel then?01:42
Hobbseewhat java issues?01:42
kakaltobut, I'm gonna check out the new kubuntu :)01:42
Hobbseeah yes01:42
Hobbseeeek, gentoo java issues, i cant help you there lol01:42
chironI swear01:42
chironever since I made a new user in Kubuntu01:42
chironall my problems started01:43
kakaltojava issues? it randomly crashes... I've been meaning to find out about it, but haven't got around to it01:43
chironKubuntu just had a fit01:43
chironJava sucks anyway01:43
kakaltoapparently it's a portage thing, java just doesn't like portage-based distros01:43
kakaltobut, I can't seem to find a decent bittorrent client that's not java...01:43
chironkakalto: how exactly does emerge work?01:43
chironkakalto: what about KTorrent?01:43
kakaltokinda like apt-get... but it's very hard to install outside packages01:44
kakaltoand it compiles everything01:44
kakaltoktorrent... screwy01:44
chironkakalto: what's wrong with KTorrent?01:44
kakaltoit wouldn't finish my kubuntu torrent01:44
Hobbseekakalto: azeureus?  however it's spelt01:44
kakaltoit randomly stopped on like 98.71%01:44
kakaltoazureus is java-based01:44
chironkakalto: that's weird01:45
chironkakalto: that shouldn't have happened01:45
chironkakalto: and has never happened to me01:45
chironkakalto: the only thing that isn't good about KTorrent is it doesn't have trackerless torrents01:45
chironkakalto: it needs to have a way to connect to the Distributed DB just like Azureus01:45
kakaltoyou can't get practically any info on torrents in ktorrent, either01:46
toko1213thanks again01:47
kakaltobut, quite frankly, I think the extra 2% speedup from everything being compiled in gentoo isn't particularly important01:48
kakaltoI'd like a nice, stable debian-based distro... which kubuntu seems to attract01:49
kakaltostable/ rather, stable from the unstable point of view :)01:49
Hobbseeyeah, that makes sense, just01:50
kakaltolike, (k)ubuntu is based on unstable, which is stable01:50
kakalto'cause 'unstable' doesn't mean crashy... it means it changes often, apparently01:50
Hobbseelike debian unstable - more recent apps01:50
kakaltothat's what I'm getting at :)01:51
Hobbseeway too early in the morning for thinking...01:51
kakaltoso long as kubuntu doesn't go slow, bloat or whatever that suse has, it'll be good01:51
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kakaltoI couldn't run any games at all on suse, it was so slow on my system :(01:52
kakaltoHobbsee, you in Oz? is it still morning?01:52
Hobbseehow's the land of the sheep lol, across the tasman?   :P01:53
kakaltohow it always is, y'know :)01:53
Hobbseei was wondering how you were able to pick my timezone so quickly, till i saw where you were01:54
kakaltogood ol' info menu01:54
Hobbsee*nods* - i just used the /whois01:55
kakaltox-chat has that in a little right-click menu ^-^01:55
Hobbseenever used x-chat01:55
KaoticEvilxchat is cool :>01:56
KaoticEvili need a filesharing script tho o.o01:56
kakaltoI couldn't stand konversation...01:56
Hobbseeissri's fun too01:56
kakaltoyou mean irssi?01:56
kakaltoyea :)01:56
Hobbseeyeah, that01:57
Hobbseethe one that's got i's, r's and s' in it,  in any order01:57
kakaltovery useful when you're without X...01:57
KaoticEviltheres irc too :P01:57
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kakaltoHobbsee, you only got the letters in reverse order :)01:57
Hobbseeyeah true01:58
kakaltoeasy mistake. I was calling kde 'edk' for a while :P01:58
Hobbseeargh...forgotten the name of the program i want to run!01:58
Hobbseelol...or dke01:58
kakaltodon't ya just hate that01:58
KaoticEvil. o O ( KDE... KaoticEvil's Desktop Environment ;) :P )01:58
Hobbseeyes, because right now, i cant see it in my start menu either, and i know it's installed!01:59
kakaltowhat's it for?01:59
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Hobbseekakalto: it's the alarm thingo that comes with kde, and it's not karm01:59
kakaltocan't help ya sorry :)02:00
Hobbsee:P try kalarm02:01
Hobbseenot sure why that wasnt installed02:01
Hobbseethink that's the one i want...02:01
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Hobbseeyep, it is02:01
kakaltois theer a default kubuntu firewall?02:03
Hobbseeand now it's magically got into my kmenu02:03
Hobbseei think so, but there's IP tables or guarddog02:03
Hobbseewell, the kubuntu has all the unused services off by default02:03
kakalto'cause I'm looking for a firewall... I think firestarter is being screwy02:03
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Hobbseei've had trouble with firestarter too - couldnt see the windows files on another computer via samba02:04
Hobbseecould without the firewall02:04
Hobbseecan with guarddog02:04
kakaltoI could do kmyfirewall, but it's complicated, all I need is simple02:04
kakaltoI'll try guarddog02:04
Hobbseeyou might find that a little complicated too, but it's not tooo bad02:05
kakaltomeh, I'll just have to get over my laziness02:07
Hobbseeafter using gentoo, that hardly lets you be lazy, it seems!02:07
kakaltoonce gentoo is installed, it's very lazy02:08
kakaltoit's the actual installation that's the issue :P02:08
kakaltobut they're working on a walkthrough installer program02:09
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kakaltothe documentation is excellent on gentoo though02:10
kakaltobut whenever you want to install a new program, out comes gcc, and waiting becomes the latest craze02:11
Hobbseewhich is probably why you havent upgraded your kernel yet02:12
kakaltoit's probably still more recent than the one included with kubuntu 5.1002:12
Hobbseesame as yours02:13
kakaltobut, I have to recompile nvidia drivers if I update kernel02:14
kakaltoplus, my current kernel works fine, so no need02:14
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kakaltonvidia isn't as bad as ati, as I hear02:14
kakaltoso what do you have?02:14
Hobbseeintel integrated card - this is a laptop02:15
Hobbsee3d graphics would be nice though lol02:15
kakaltookay, since it's a laptop02:15
kakaltobut damn, integrated is not nice02:15
Hobbseeno, not really02:15
Hobbseebut it works02:16
Hobbseeand unless i'm playing a graphics intensive game, i dont notice that much02:16
Hobbseewell, stuff that actually uses the 3d graphics02:16
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kakaltobut, I suppose laptops aren't really made for 3d, games, etc.02:18
Hobbseehehe...especially not this one!02:18
kakaltowhat's the specs like?02:18
Hobbseethis model is known to overheat - we didnt know when we bought it02:18
Hobbsee2.4 ghz, 512mb ram02:18
Hobbseetoshiba a10 satellite, if you really want to look them up02:18
Hobbseeruns kubuntu really well lol02:19
kakaltoyou on via wireless or wired?02:20
kakaltofair enough, wireless is still quite expensive02:20
kakaltoin comparison02:20
Hobbseeso true02:21
Hobbseei think the family is lookign to to go wireless at some point02:21
Hobbseeif i had a wireless card, i think someone's got an open connection to test out the wireless with02:22
Hobbseesilly people who dont secure their wireless connections...02:22
kakaltoyeah, lol02:22
kakaltogo wardriving :P02:22
Hobbseei think they're across the street, so i wouldnt have to move far!02:23
kakaltosadly, I'm in a small town, the only wireless connection around would be maybe the school, which plugs & unplugs its wireless on demand02:24
Hobbsee:( no fun at all!02:24
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kakaltothen again02:25
kakaltoif I could figure out how to steal someone's satellite connection02:25
kakaltoI dunno02:26
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the_nightok, I downloaded fglrx the ati binary in order to get opengl/3d to work... however, now I cannot change my resolution to 1200*800 like I was able to before02:32
the_nightand I set that resolution dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:32
the_nightso it should work as far as I know02:32
the_nightthat and whenever I try to autodetect my monitor, it blacks out the screen and i have to restart02:33
the_nightIt did this on ubuntu also02:33
kakaltoI can't help02:35
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seth_k|lappyif he ever comes back02:38
seth_k|lappyit's this bug: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1560602:38
kakaltoI should have told him to stick around, as I'm not even running kubuntu, let alone ati drivers02:38
seth_k|lappyi'll memo him02:40
seth_k|lappyoh bah, not registered02:40
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parraf1hi all. how to view video thumbnails on konqueror?02:45
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crimsonanybody has installed "KM"??03:09
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jk-hi all.03:11
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byrmkyi need help03:13
crimsoni cant do anything with command "MAKE" what i need?03:13
jk-hi byrmky.03:13
jk-crimson: what happens?03:13
byrmkyi have ubuntu03:14
byrmkybut i want to install03:14
jk-apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:14
Dasnipa`apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:14
jk-i think03:14
crimsonim trying to install these...http://gatos.sourceforge.net/km.php03:14
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byrmkythis error comes03:16
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byrmky Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)03:16
Dasnipa`you have to do sudo03:16
jk-byrmky: sudo apt-get install ...03:16
Dasnipa`sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:16
crimsonit says that i need to put "MAKE" command to compile but it appears these bash: make: command not found03:16
jk-crimson: you need to install make then03:17
jk-crimson: sudo apt-get install make03:17
jk-and you'll probably want to install gcc too.03:17
crimsonlet me try03:17
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crimsonit works03:18
byrmkyits says i have allready but i still on ubuntu03:19
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crimsonappears Any objective was not specified and was no makefile03:31
crimsonwhen i put "make"03:31
Dasnipa`did you ./configure first?03:32
crimsonno, im new in linux03:35
Dasnipa`very apparently03:36
Dasnipa`when you download a source file it usually has a number of things... first thing to look for is a configure file03:36
Dasnipa`you run this with ./configure03:37
Dasnipa`that creates the make file03:37
Dasnipa`then you run make on it03:37
Dasnipa`and then make install usually03:37
crimsonok wait03:37
crimsonbash: /configure: The file or the directory does not exist03:38
crimsonsorry, this is hard when you com from winbugs03:40
jk-crimson: what are you trying to install ?03:40
jk-(also, it's './configure' - you need the . )03:40
crimsonjk---avview & km & firefox03:41
crimsoni do that03:41
crimsonim using kubuntu03:42
jk-but what are you trying to install right now? which of those packages?03:42
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kubuntu_guygudmorning guys03:46
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chuck87hi, does someone knows how to install kernel header?03:48
LjLchuck87: aptitude install linux-kernel-headers03:48
chuck87thanx LjL ! ;)03:49
KaoticEvil'fs vars03:49
chuck87and how can i install gcc3.4?03:50
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chxhow could I insert a soft hyphen 0xC2 0xAD into KATE?03:52
KaoticEviloh wow...03:54
KaoticEvilKMail has gotten nicer :)03:54
chxah kcharselect03:54
KaoticEvilid like to find a replacement to T'bird.... but i dont think KMail is gonna cut it03:55
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crimsonanybody has already installed firefox?03:57
regeyawell, what are you looking for that you're not getting in T'bird?03:57
crimsonin kubuntu03:58
KaoticEvilcrimson:  i have04:00
KaoticEvilregeya:  something a lil faster04:00
crimsonhow you do it?04:00
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KaoticEvilcrimson:  sudo apt-get install firefox04:01
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regeyaso what features are you looking for KaoticEvil04:02
LjLcrimson: it works, tho it gives an error when starting, i haven't look at it but it should be very easily fixable (i think it's about not finding the homepage)04:02
KaoticEvilregeya:  something on the order of T'bird... but faster :P04:02
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byrmkyhi guys i am back04:02
byrmkythere is another problem04:03
byrmkyi dont have any sound in my computer04:03
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byrmkyhelp 04:03
KaoticEvilbyrmky:  waht sound card?04:04
byrmkyno idea04:04
byrmkyhow can i check04:05
byrmkyin kubuntu04:05
crimsonappears The package firefox is not available, but some other package makes reference to him. This can mean that the package lacks, is obsolete or it only is available from some other source E: The package firefox does not have candidate for its installation04:05
KaoticEvilcrimson:  try: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox04:07
KaoticEvilthats the metapackage04:07
KaoticEvilcrimson:  have you added universe and multiverse to apt-get?04:08
crimsonsame thing happen04:08
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KaoticEvilubotu:  tell crimson about repos04:08
KaoticEvilcrimson:  read what ubotu just told you04:09
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KaoticEvildo that, then rebuild your apt-cache and try it04:09
jk-firefox is in main04:09
bimberijk-: yes04:10
byrmkyhi are you going to help meguys?04:10
KaoticEvilis it? i never really looked, tbh04:11
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crimsonok thanks, im going to dinner04:12
byrmkydo i have to beg for help04:12
byrmkyor u help04:12
jk-byrmky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems04:13
bimberibyrmky: no need to beg, if someone knows they will help, otherwise assume nobody knows :)04:14
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bimberijk-: sorry, i didn't see the context of your post, you weren't asking (about firefox) :)04:15
N17R0Hi under which name can I find the ubuntu cursor theme on kde-looks.org ?04:15
jk-bimberi: i was telling KaoticEvil that firefox was in main, not {uni,multi}verse :)04:16
bimberijk-: yep, realise that now :)04:16
jk-N17R0: i don't think it's a KDE theme.04:16
jk-N17R0: you want to use it in another distro ?04:16
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jk-bimberi: :)04:17
N17R0jk- : yes I want it for gentoo :P04:17
jk-N17R0: it's in the 'kubuntu-default-settings' package, if that's any help to you :)04:19
jk-N17R0: http://www.google.com/search?q=kubuntu+xcursor+theme&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-804:19
N17R0yeah that Pinux theme looks like it :P But its not the same 04:20
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ubotuRaRe: Are you smoking crack?04:22
RaRehow do I add those calendar/cpu monitor often seen in desktop screenshots? :o04:23
jk-RaRe: right click on taskbar, -> add applet04:23
RaReon the desktop i mean, like it's embedded on the background04:24
jk-rare: you sure it was a kde desktop, not gnome ?04:26
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RaRei think it's kde... because I saw it on a screenshot from kde-look... wait let me try to hunt for the link04:26
Riaanyone able to help me with a wine issue?04:27
regeyait's probably a superkaramba thingamabob...can't help beyond that tho04:27
jk-yeah, check out superkaramba04:29
jk-(just because it has a cool name :D )04:29
RaRelol okie04:29
RaRethanx :)04:29
RiaI guess I should just post since I seem to have killed the chat everywhere else--I can't get my mouse to work properly in photoshop. Instead of acting like a paintbrush, it goes point-to-point, from where I clicked down to where I clicked up.04:29
RiaKinda makes working in it difficult04:30
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chironso I didn't know that KDE had a seperate volume control for headphones04:32
chironto make a long story short, my ears are now in quite a bit of pain04:32
chironstupid KDE...04:32
RaReRia: does linux have photoshop?04:33
jk-RaRe: this is running under a windows emulator04:33
RiaI'm running it under crossover office04:33
Dasnipa`rare: gimp is pretty much better than photoshop04:34
Riamy company has a business license and my IT guy let me borrow the CD to try it out04:34
Riano idea?04:35
RaReDasnipa`: i doubt that =/04:35
Dasnipa`doubt not... there isnt much you can do in photoshop that you cant in gimp04:35
Dasnipa`and i like gimps scripting features bettr04:35
RaRehmm, well I guess it's all about preference.04:36
Dasnipa`well you should check out the project that reskinned gimps U-I to make it look almost exactly like photoshop04:37
RaRewill do.04:37
Dasnipa`i never got around to checking it out, but it got slashdotted so im guessing he did a good job04:38
RiaI tried installing it but it didn't work.04:38
RiaAnd then ubuntu decided to install over it! 04:38
Ria'Cause apparently the version they were working with was 2.2.4, and the newest ubuntu version is 2.2.804:38
RiaThat and I'm used to photoshop, so why should I switch when crossover office says that it can handle it? 04:39
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RiaJust wondered if you guys had any ideas, like if I had a way of fixing it04:40
Dasnipa`because each sale of a closed source corporate program license kills a baby kitten04:41
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chironwtf, I've got this extremely weird amarok bug04:41
chironevery time I fast forward a song04:41
chironamarok either hangs04:41
chironor crashes04:41
chironif it hangs, it'll fix itself after about 15 seconds04:41
chironbug I still can't fast forward songs04:41
chironI have the newest amarok04:42
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RiaMeh. More baby kittens getting killed isn't a big deal.04:43
RiaBob Barker's trying to nip the genitals of catdom all the time.04:43
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tindaszhi all04:45
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RaReDasnipa`: http://freshmeat.net/projects/gimpshop/ <-- found it ;)04:45
dutchhow do I change the resolution in KDE ?04:51
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crimsundutch: should be in the kde control center04:59
jk-crimsun: sysmtemsettings -> display ?05:00
jk-err, that was for dutch.05:00
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crimsunI keep forgetting about system settings05:03
dutchcrimsun: thanks, been looking but can't find anything to do with screen resolution05:03
crimsundutch: did you try jk-'s system settings suggestion?05:04
jk-systemsettings == kcontrol, but a little more shiny :)05:05
dutchcrimsun: i found it ! i think :)05:05
dutchcontrol center/peripherals/display05:07
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DelvienAnyone know how i would run this """xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 8 9 4 5"""" everytime i boot?05:13
Delvienits just a command line. but i want it to go in as soon as i login05:14
glitchWell, I'm no ubuntu guru05:15
jk-boot, or login ?05:15
glitchbut on fedora05:15
Delvienlogin, or whichever is easier05:15
glitchI would edit rc.local to include it05:15
crimsunyou can specify the appropriate {y,z}axismapping in /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:15
Delvienim on Kubuntu 5.1005:16
glitchme too - just learning my way around05:16
Delviencrimsun aye, i have to have it this way, or my scroll wheel goes back/forward, while me forward/back buttons scroll., its strange but it works, got myself a new Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and not by CURSED microsuk05:16
glitchI've been redhat/fedora since RH605:17
glitchdecided to try kubuntu05:17
Delvieni just started linux with ubuntu preview05:17
Delvienjk- any ideas?05:17
jk-are you using a .xsession ?05:18
Delvienjk- how do i know :P05:18
jk-ok, you're probably not then :)05:18
Delvieni know how to do it in gnome, but i want this one command to be entered at login05:19
jk-how would you do it in gnome?05:20
jk-just outta curiosity...05:20
Delvienin  umm sessions start up , worked for me05:21
Delvienhow do i figure out what bluetooth devs i have connected right now , IE the baddr05:22
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jk-'hcitool browse' i think05:22
jk-or maybe hcitool search05:22
Delvienneithr work05:24
jk-inquire ? :)05:25
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Delvientrying now05:26
Delviennope , oh well ill find out tomorrow05:27
Delvienso do you know how to make that command line run on start up?05:27
Delvienerr login i mean05:27
glitchStart up yes05:28
glitchlog in to KDE, I'm not so sure05:29
Delvienglitch startup would be fine, how do i do it?05:29
glitchthere's no rc.local in [k] ubuntu05:29
glitchbut the scripts that get run on a graphical boot 05:30
glitchare under05:30
Delvien:( nm then05:30
Delvienis there anyway toi do it in kubuntu?05:30
glitch /etc/rc5.d05:30
glitchthat is a directory full of links to little scripts that run at runlevel 5 (multiuser + X)05:31
glitchthe scripts themselves are in /etc/init.d05:31
Delvienneither of them exist05:31
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glitchI'm on kubuntu 5.1005:32
glitchand I've got an /etc/init.d05:32
Delvienjust did sudo kedit /etc/init.d and said it was a new file05:32
glitch(it's a directory)05:32
glitchthat's why05:32
glitchwhat you want to do is05:32
jk-runlevel 2 is default in ubuntu - you'll want rc2.d05:32
Delviendo i just chmod a txt file and put it in there?05:32
jk-glitch: run 'runlevel' and see :)05:33
glitchwhy would rc2 be default for.. !?!05:33
glitchdoesn't that break the 'rules' ?05:33
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glitchI'm still getting used to the differences between redhat/the rest of the unix world05:34
Delvienjk- would it be true if i make a text file, chmod it ( so it runs as a executable) and put it in init.d that it would run on startup05:34
glitchyou're on the right track05:34
glitchthat's where you want to put your scripts to be run05:34
troyglitch: graphical mode is 4 on slackware :)05:34
glitchand then the last thing you do is put a link from whatever runlevel you want05:34
Delvienok and does all of init.d run at startup?05:34
Delvienok lemme think05:34
glitchfor example 05:34
glitchin konsole05:35
jk-Delvien: echo -e '#!/bin/sh\n\nexec xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 8 9 4 5"' > /etc/init.d/modmap; chmod 755 /etc/init.d/modmap; ln -s ../init.d/modmap /etc/rc2.d/S30modmap05:35
glitchcd /etc/rc2.d05:35
jk-should do the trick :)05:35
glitchjk beat me to it :)05:35
Delvienno bin/bash?05:35
Delviendo i run that in command line or put that in my text file in init.d05:36
glitchthat command line will:05:36
glitchcreate a new next file called modmad in /etc/init.d05:36
glitchand then make a link to it from /etc/rc2.d05:37
jk-it's just one command line to cut & paste into a console.05:37
glitchoops modmap05:37
glitchI was going to go through step by step, but that works too 05:37
jk-but you'll need to 'sudo -s' first.05:37
Delvienso my text file should look like sudo -s05:37
glitchas a sudo noob05:37
glitchwhat does the sudo -s do?05:38
jk-glitch: run a shell instead of a single command05:38
Delvienok supposidly its in05:38
Delvienim gonna do a fast reboot just to make sure05:38
glitchso that's like running su on other os's05:38
KaoticEvilanyone used alien?05:38
jk-glitch: yeah.05:38
glitchbefore your reboot - be sure that modmap is in /etc/init.d05:38
jk-and is executable05:39
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Delvienit is05:39
jk-and linked to from /etc/rc2.d05:39
Delvienhow do i tell that?05:39
glitchyou can cd to /etc/rc2.d05:39
jk-ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*modmap*05:39
glitchand be able to see it in that dir05:39
glitchif you're using konsole with colors the link should show up in light blue05:40
Delvienlrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 16 2005-11-10 23:38 /etc/rc2.d/S30modmap -> ../init.d/modmap05:40
Delvienyeah its lighr blue05:40
glitchgreat, that's a link to the executable script you just made in rc2.d05:40
Delvienso does that mean it works :)05:40
glitchsounds like you've got all your ducks in a row05:41
Delvienyay, lemme reboot just to make sure it works05:41
glitchthat command should execute everytime you reboot from now on05:41
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glitchso if that command runs before X starts05:44
glitchwill it work for him?05:45
RaRehello.. how do I check my KDE's version?05:45
glitchahh - you made it S30, so it should start after S21kdm anyway, neh?05:46
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Delviendddddddddoesnt work :(05:48
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kkathmanevening all :)05:49
glitchRare: use the command kde-config --version05:49
Delvieni  mean all i have to do atm is click on an icon i made to make it work, but i want a more intelligent login05:49
glitchI was afraid of that - it sounds like you have to execute that after a KDE login, not just a system start05:50
Delvienoh well , ill deal with it later, im gonna go try my new toys in windows on battlefield 205:50
Delvienglitch how would i go about doing thay05:51
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glitchwell - this seems like a kludge05:51
glitchbut you could try putting the script in ~/.kde/Audostart05:52
glitchkludge = clumsy fix for a problem05:52
Delviendo i just put the file in there05:52
glitchif I remember correctly, yes, anything in Autostart will run at successful login by that user05:52
KaoticEvilif i format my root partition, and install linux again, and use the same username (/home is on another partition), will i still be able to access all my files?05:53
sophie_anyone use krename on kubuntu05:53
Delvienglitch so if i chmod 777 a text file with the command in there, and put it in autostart it will work05:53
glitchKaoticEvil: I was just wondering that myself. A new linux install will want to make it's own home dir on the main drive, right?05:54
sophie_Delvien: better use chmod +x script05:54
RaReglitch: thanx05:54
sophie_this wil apply only to your user and not system wide05:54
KaoticEvilglitch:  presumably not, if you tell it to mount the existing partition as /home05:54
KaoticEvilbut i wondering about permissions05:54
glitchKaoticEvil: ahh, okay, permissions I can say yes to05:55
glitchKaoticEvil: i just did that05:55
KaoticEvilglitch:  cool05:55
sophie_anyone use krename on kubuntu?05:55
glitchDelvien: not sure that the Autostart dir will work, but I don't see why it wouldn't05:56
KaoticEvilglitch:  what did you go to/from?05:56
glitchFedora core 4 -> kubuntu05:56
KaoticEvilheh cool05:56
glitchanyone have a 2nd opinion on that05:56
Delvienwhere is autostart dir?05:57
glitchare your file permissions linked to the username05:57
glitchor to a UID05:57
glitchfor me05:57
KaoticEvildoes kubuntu have SMP support?05:57
KaoticEvilDelvien:  ~/.kde/Autostart05:57
glitchDelvien: /home/glitch/.kde/Autostart05:57
glitchthe ~ means /home/yourUserName05:57
Delviengot it05:57
glitchand the shell interprets it that way05:57
Delvienbrb i guess, see if it works05:58
glitchKaoticEvil: yes, kubuntu comes with a few kernels, SMP being one of them05:59
KaoticEvilglitch:  thanks.. had a friend askin me05:59
glitchthis is completely nitpicky06:00
glitchbut i miss bluecurve on kubuntu06:00
glitchthe default plastik theme - all the windows seem to kind of run together visually06:01
glitchI tried turning on shadows + transparency06:01
glitchbut it was just a little too slow06:01
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glitchi know what i needed to ask06:02
RaRehelp, i've downloaded an icon set [http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/2550034/]  but it isn't in a .theme format, how do i use this with my kde?06:02
glitchanyone else have trouble with flash + mozilla06:03
KaoticEvilglitch:  mozilla or firefox?06:03
glitchoops gotta run06:06
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endo602i was wondering if kubuntu supports encryption with WPA06:33
kkathmanhey endo602  :)06:33
endo602i have a WRT54GS router06:33
kkathmanin wireless ?06:33
endo602and i want to encrypt the wireless signal with WPA06:33
jk-endo602: yep, xsupplicant is available.06:34
endo602ill try that out06:34
endo602another thing i want to do 06:34
endo602is disable the caps lock key06:34
naliothendo602: get some pliers :006:35
crimsunendo602: use wpasupplicant or xsupplicant.06:35
crimsunendo602: having touched both packages, I recommend the former06:35
endo602will do06:35
jk-endo602: xmodmap -e "clear lock"06:36
crimsunhmm, some pretty significant changes in 0_4 branch. I'll think about backporting those.06:36
kkathmanhas anyone tried out the new Gambas..just curious if its as good as it seems06:37
kkathmanyah its an IDE like Visual BASIC06:39
KaoticEvilalien worked :D06:39
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naliothKaoticEvil: are you trashing your system?06:41
KaoticEvilnalioth:  nope... just installing FPC/Lazarus :)06:41
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KaoticEvilgot the 3 packages, ran alien on em.. and they isntalled without a hitch :)06:42
endo602jk- anyway to change the caps lock to another shift06:43
seth_kAnyone have any idea about getting phpEclipse to install on Breezy's Eclipse packages? The wiki instructions are bad (outdated)06:43
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seth_kendo602: Regional & Accessibility, in SystemSettings. Go to XKB options06:44
endo602i did that06:44
endo602never worked for me06:44
seth_kthen your xkb stuff isn't working06:45
KaoticEvilhow old is breezy?06:45
jk-was released in 5/1006:45
seth_ka little under a month old06:45
KaoticEviloh, ok06:45
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KaoticEvilso the next version will be out... 6/04?06:46
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seth_kDapper Drake, 6.0406:46
seth_kI'm running it now06:46
KaoticEvilseth_k:  yeah? cool :)06:46
seth_knot much different at this point :P06:46
seth_kstarting to see the merges come in06:46
crimsunyep, we're working our tails off06:46
seth_kI merged mysql-query-browser yesterday and stuck it on revu06:47
endo602another question06:47
seth_kand Riddell is supposed to peek at my kmobiletools package sometime methinks06:47
endo602how come i can only acccess my wireless connection and not other nearby06:47
endo602they dont have encryption06:47
KaoticEvili have to say... of all the linux distros ive tried, i am *very* impressed with kubuntu06:47
crimsunseth_k: we're using LP for merges06:47
KaoticEvilcrimsun and seth_k: are you on the kubuntu devel staff?06:48
naliothKaoticEvil: it will become a very wild and exasperating ride before 6.04 for those suckling at the dapper tree06:48
crimsunKaoticEvil: I don't do much with KDE directly; I'm a MOTU (maintain the universe & multiverse tree)06:48
seth_kcrimsun: yeah, mysql-query-browser wasn't on the merge list until today :S so I thought it got overlooked06:48
seth_kKaoticEvil: I play with backports, and am an op here on #kubuntu06:49
jk-endo602: xmodmap -e 'add shift = Caps_Lock'06:49
KaoticEviloh, awesome :)06:49
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KaoticEvilok, now that i got alzarus running, im going to go write some code :) bbl06:50
seth_kcrimsun: think I should put a link to the revu package for m-q-b on the launchpad bug? or just let somebody else merge it and keep my hands out of where they don't belong :P06:50
endo602thanks so much jk06:50
crimsunseth_k: if you've done the work, please link to it 06:50
crimsunseth_k: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge ?06:50
endo602i just installed wpa06:51
seth_kyeah, I helped with merges for Breezy06:51
endo602how do i access it?06:51
seth_kI don't know how to do it too well though, methinks06:51
crimsunendo602: it's probably easiest to use Konsole currently06:51
crimsunendo602: are you using WPA (not WPA2)?06:51
endo602currently nothing06:52
endo602but i would like to set up whatever is best06:52
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crimsunendo602: I recommend WPA, then06:52
crimsunthere are still some WPA2 issues that won't be fixed until 0.4.7 apparently06:52
seth_kcrimsun: what's the best method for doing merges, in your opinion? I took Breezy source and Debian source, uupdate'd the Breezy, and went through the .rej's06:52
endo602so if i change the security06:52
seth_kshould I go the other way around, and put the Ubuntu diff into the Debian source? Or how06:53
endo602how can i make it that my laptop can read the encryption?06:53
crimsunseth_k: look at Scott's MoM page06:53
crimsunseth_k: http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/06:53
crimsunMoM/REVU2 has done most of the hard work already06:54
crimsunendo602: you'd need to edit /etc/wpa_supplicant and /etc/default/wpasupplicant06:54
endo602aha ok06:54
crimsunendo602: err, /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and /etc/default/wpasupplicant06:54
endo602WPA radius?06:56
seth_kyeah, I've read that one too, but reading through a 2.6MB dropped patch messed with my head. Meh, sometime I need to kidnap an MOTU out to a desert island and make them give me lessons for a day. Then I'd be good :P06:56
endo602with Tkip?06:56
humboldtoIs there an update for OO.org2 already available for breezy?06:56
seth_khumboldto, yes06:57
crimsunseth_k: it's pretty simple. Look at REPORT, then skim the debian.patch and the ubuntu.patch. Make sure everything in the Ubuntu patch has been included in the Debian patch. If that's the case, the merged .patch should be trivial. If that's the case, you can request a sync else you'll have to merge by hand.06:57
humboldtoDid not find any update/backport yet06:58
seth_kdeb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/ ./06:58
crimsunendo602: depends what your wireless access point is configured as06:58
seth_kadd that line to /etc/apt/sources.list06:58
seth_kthen click reload in Synaptic06:58
seth_kignoring GPG errors06:58
seth_kthen you will have OOo2 ready to download06:58
endo602i dont know06:58
endo602i just bought htis router06:58
seth_kendo602, language please06:59
endo602my bad06:59
humboldtoseth_k: will this show up in breezy-updates soon?06:59
seth_khumboldto, I am unsure.06:59
seth_kBut I'm running those packages on 2 machines06:59
seth_kand they are more stable than 12906:59
yudihow to adjust new date by konsole?06:59
endo602my setup is a router wired with my desktop and wireless to my laptop06:59
endo602the laptop has kubuntu07:00
humboldtohow can I set the keymap for the console?07:00
seth_kouch, it's midnight. crimsun, thank you for the pointers. I think I'll retry merging tomorrow.07:00
endo602its just a router is the access point07:01
crimsunendo602: yes, but it still needs to be configured to use WEP, WPA, etc.07:02
endo602its WPA 07:02
endo602but should i put SHAREd key07:02
endo602or radius07:03
jk-endo602: i thought we'd fixed your caps-lock problem? :)07:03
endo602yeah you did07:03
endo602this is my desktop07:03
humboldtoIs there any app for kde to manage wireless networks reliably? something that does not need the root user to switch networks?07:03
endo602i am on07:03
jk-shared key, unless you want to set up a radius server too.07:03
humboldtodoes not even have to be a kde app07:03
jk-.. which you don't.07:03
humboldtocould also be console07:04
jk-humboldto: i've heard laptop-net does it all automatically07:04
endo602TKIP or AES07:04
humboldtois ifscheme integrated in the ifupdown scripts reliably?07:04
jk-but i just use an 'athome' or 'atwork' scripts07:04
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humboldtojk-: well, somehow if I loose my connection for a moment the interface goes down completely and I have to bring it up by hand with ifup07:05
humboldtothis sucks07:05
endo602jk i am going to check out the laptop-net too07:05
endo602should i take off my config for networks under the root?07:06
humboldtoisn't there something that constantely scans for networks and uses the ones that are open or already configured?07:06
humboldtojk-: I don't see any wlan support in laptop-net description07:07
jk-ok, maybe it's not for wireless setup then. 07:08
humboldtoit seems to be soley for automatic setup of you cabled interfaces07:09
endo602jk if i use WPA shared then to i want to set up using TKIP or AES07:09
paulproteus|jhuendo602, TKIP07:09
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crimsunendo602: what wifi chipset are you using?07:10
humboldtoOne thing that I don't like about this whole "Get the Linux Desktop forward" thing, is the fact that they develop cool apps, like the automounter for usb-disks, that only work, when the desktop is actually running. network-magick (gnome) drapper is another example 07:11
humboldtowhy can't this stuff be console based and daemons in the background and kde or gnome just talk to them?07:12
crimsunhumboldto: actually that's only because no one has written the console equivalent. The backend is already present07:12
crimsunWe have udev and hotplug that function regardless of gui07:12
endo602crimsun intel07:13
endo602for the dell 700m07:13
crimsunendo602: ipw2195?07:14
crimsunendo602: the ipw2200 driver doesn't properly support AES+TKIP for WPA in Breezy07:14
humboldtoI mean, the stuff should run by it's own07:14
humboldtocrimsun: Are you refering to the mounting thing?07:15
endo602ntel ProWireless 2100 (802.11b, 11 Mbps4) mini PCI wireless card07:15
endo602that wok07:15
endo602is that would you mean07:16
crimsunendo602: ah, the ipw2100 doesn't properly support AES+TKIP in WPA either07:16
endo602how about either or07:16
endo602not both07:16
endo602just TKIP07:16
endo602it will?07:16
crimsunendo602: correct07:16
endo602so i will just put tkip07:16
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endo602now i edit the .conf file07:17
endo602what do i do with the /etc/default/wpasupp?07:17
crimsunendo602: you have to edit it07:17
endo602i know07:17
crimsunchange the OPTIONS= line07:18
endo602but just the OPTIONS= part?07:18
endo602to -c07:18
crimsunfor instance, mine's OPTIONS="-i eth1 -D ipw -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -w"07:18
endo602 ok07:18
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crimsunendo602: yeah, because I have an ipw-based wifi chipset07:20
endo602and done07:20
endo602should i change anything under network settings?07:21
crimsunwell, have you edited /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf?07:21
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crimsunendo602: paste it onto kubuntu.pastebin (after sanitising it, e.g., removing the psk or keys)07:23
endo602i cant copy and paste07:25
endo602because this is my desktip07:25
endo602and that is my laptop07:25
endo602and right now the wireless aint working 07:26
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crimsunendo602: the section that you need in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf is pretty short07:26
crimsunmine's essentially: network07:27
endo602i got that part07:27
endo602to my key and ssid07:27
crimsunerr, network={ ssid="the_ssid" psk=0xf00 }07:27
endo602mine says key_mgmt=07:27
endo602after ssid07:28
crimsundon't necessarily need that07:28
endo602so just the ssid07:29
crimsunno, you need the key/psk, too07:29
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ilba7rI heared there were special ubuntu editions for some of HP notebooks anyone knows where can i find a link on that07:32
endo602now is there anything i need to do in network settings so i can get the internet running?07:33
naliothilba7r: breezy works just fine out-of-the-box on my HP dv100007:34
ilba7rthanx nalioth i found the site http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/custom/hplaptops07:35
ilba7rthe point is i am still searching for a replacement to my notebook that was busted and am specifically looking for one to run ubuntu on07:36
endo602i cant get rid of the WEP key fro my network settings07:36
naliothilba7r: um, there is a link on that very page07:36
crimsunendo602: don't worry about that07:36
crimsunendo602: wpasupplicant supercedes all that07:37
endo602oh ok cool07:37
endo602so i should be able to connect07:37
ilba7ri am looking at it right now07:38
crimsunendo602: if you set everything correctly, yes07:39
ilba7rI waited a month an a half for my thinkpad to arrive and it did not arrive so am back to square one now :(07:39
crimsunendo602: I recommend you first invoke it from Konsole as such: sudo wpa_supplicant -i eth1 -D ipw -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -w07:39
crimsunendo602: add -dd to the end07:40
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crimsunit should connect to your access point07:43
crimsunonce that is successful, you need to request a dhcp lease07:43
endo602invalid PSK07:43
endo602failed to parse PSK07:44
crimsunare you in fact using a passphrase?07:44
endo602jus a shared key07:44
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crimsunerr, for WPA that's called a psk07:45
endo602ok cool07:45
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endo602got that done07:45
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crimsunendo602: I've found that sometimes you need to convert it to the hex representation07:45
crimsunendo602: you can use wpa_passphrase "ssid" "ascii passphrase"   for that07:45
endo602im confused07:46
endo602i think i should stop trying to do these things at 2am07:46
crimsunok, example: Suppose your ssid is "Foo" and your ascii passphrase is "Help me Obi-wan"07:48
crimsunthen you execute the following in a Konsole: wpa_passphrase "Foo" "Help me Obi-wan"07:48
crimsunyou should get a network={} directive to place in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf07:49
crimsunthe two important parameters are ssid= and psk=07:49
crimsunyour ssid="Foo"07:49
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crimsunyour psk=58b6252425d6ee4fe358e1076d1873fb85193816dc6682b586bb1dbbf23f3dbd07:49
endo602should i copy and paste?07:50
MarsI need helpo07:50
endo602into the conf now07:50
crimsunendo602: well, use your AP's ssid and your own psk, but yeah07:50
endo602of course07:50
crimsunit's vital that your PSKs match07:50
MarsFor a few minutes i will go to my friend and he asked me to install kuhbuntu on his PC. Problem is that he heas USB modem and i dont know how to do this. I mean i found way of installing it but i think kubuntu needs to download some packages during installation.07:51
endo602its working07:51
endo602ow i just have to fix this local ip issue07:51
endo602i never get a local ip set for my laptop07:52
paulproteus|jhuMars, It doesn't have to download packages to install.07:52
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MarsBut i remember that when i was installing kubuntu, it downloaded some files07:52
Chousuke but making his internet connection work may be difficult.07:52
ChousukeMars: it will if it can, but it's not needed.07:53
KaoticEvilhow can i get the an apps PID from the shell?07:53
endo602crimsun is there something i can do that will get my router to assign my laptop a local ip?07:54
MarsSo after i will install net i will be able to update it completly?07:54
crimsunendo602: as opposed to a globally addressable ip?07:55
endo602in my kwifimanager i get a signal and accesspoint but by local ip it says unavailible07:56
crimsunendo602: well if you can associate successfully with your AP, then you should start wpasupplicant the correct way07:57
crimsunyou can kill it by pressing ctrl+c07:57
crimsunthen ''sudo invoke-rc.d wpasupplicant restart''07:57
crimsunthen you can ''sudo ifup --force eth1''07:58
crimsun(presuming you have eth1 defined to use dhcp)07:58
endo602well its eht0 in my case07:58
endo602but it dhcp07:58
endo602says no dhcpoffers received07:59
endo602No working leases in persisten database - sleeping08:00
crimsunis your router's dhcp server enabled?08:00
endo602autoconfiguration DHCP08:00
endo602server enabled08:00
crimsuncould you get a dhcp lease when you were not using encryption?08:01
endo602with wep i did08:02
crimsunis the router set to use wpa (not wpa2) with tkip?08:02
crimsunsudo pkill dhclient08:03
crimsunoh, in /etc/network/interfaces, you should remove anything having to do with wireless08:04
crimsunyou should only have the line for your interface, i.e., iface eth0 inet dhcp08:05
endo602would that make it useless for me to get internet anywhere else08:05
crimsunyou can have other stuff08:05
crimsunlike your lo and eth1, etc.08:05
endo602can i still get wireless connection with WEP encryption in my friends house08:06
crimsunif you don't want to edit /etc/network/interfaces, then you'll have to use ifconfig manually.08:06
crimsunsudo ifdown --force eth008:06
crimsunthen restart wpasupplicant08:06
endo602network is unreachable08:07
crimsunthen ''sudo dhclient eth0''08:07
crimsunthat's ok, just keep going to the next step08:07
endo602i got an offer08:07
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endo602now i got a local ip08:10
trinidadneed help with kubuntu startup.....I get this "KDE init could not initialize kdesu"....What does this mean and how can I fix this08:10
endo602but internet is now working08:10
trinidadalso, no  matter what I change in Control Center, Theme, Style, Font, etc... it always stays the saem08:12
trinidadNothing changes08:12
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trinidadnothing is changing per Kcontrol08:13
ubotutrinidad: No idea08:13
trinidadubotu, dam08:14
ubotuNot a clue, trinidad08:14
jk-did you click 'Apply' ?08:14
trinidadjk-, lol08:14
trinidadjk-, sure08:15
trinidadthis is just wrong08:16
trinidadeven menu titles don't center when I ask it to center the titles08:16
trinidadthis is wierd08:16
trinidadi haven't turned on this box in about 4 months.  I just finished upgrading and updating packages and this happens08:16
trinidadI don't have this problem at work08:16
trinidadthis is wierd08:17
MarsWhat i need to type to make kubuntu from ubuntu?08:17
jk-Mars: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:18
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chironmy Konqueror toolbar got messed up somehow08:34
chironnow the buttons and the address bar are on two seperate lines08:34
chironI don't know how to get it back to the way it was08:34
jk-drag the little spotty bits at the left-hand side of the toolbar/addressbar08:37
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ridz1hello - anybody here using or have used kmail on kubuntu (breezy)?08:44
insanekaneridz1: i have08:45
ridz1ah - i cannot seem to access kmail - was it in the default install?08:45
insanekaneridz1: K -> Office -> Kontact08:46
ridz1ah thanks - have to get used to the layout of kubuntu08:47
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raphinkwb JoeBu 10:11
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JoeBuon wifi...so prob dropped out real quick10:13
propagandhidammit when is RC1 gonna be released10:15
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andrzejhi j have small problem- when j configure the buncing cursor for no busy cursor j save this and when j open control panel is a bouncing cursor and it is not changed 11:33
manveruandrzej: you have to restart the x-server i fear... (not sure about mouse-theming in general)11:34
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andrzejhow comand?11:35
manveruandrzej: just log out and press [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace] 11:36
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andrzejno succes11:38
andrzejthis no help me11:38
andrzejis buncing cursor11:38
manveruandrzej: then i'm sorry, you have to keep on bouncing11:38
andrzejBut it is not possible it uninstall?11:39
andrzejBut it is not possible it uninstall11:41
kinfoi don't understand.11:41
andrzejsorry my english isn't good11:41
andrzejhow uninstall buncing cursor11:42
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andrzej<manveru> when j reinstall kubuntu that help me?11:44
manveruandrzej: why on earth would you reinstall kubuntu because a cursor is bouncing?11:45
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manveruandrzej: is your normal cursor bouncing all the time?11:45
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manveruandrzej: only while loading an application - right?11:46
andrzejwhen j start any program11:46
manveruandrzej: and this is annoying you so much?11:46
manveruthat's what i would call a definite no11:47
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Snuffiiis it possible to make some ntfs partitions from kubuntu install cd ?11:48
naliothSnuffii: it is not possible to make ntfs partitions.11:49
Snuffiinalioth, and windows will read them ?11:49
naliothSnuffii: you can NOT make ntfs partitions 11:50
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dipnlikSnuffii: Windows will read fat32 natively, and you can use software to copy files from ext2/3 to you Win partition11:50
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SnuffiiSo if i need partitions for windows i need to make them from windows install cd ?11:53
dipnlikSnuffii: what do you really want to do?11:54
dipnlikSnuffii: dual boot?11:54
dipnlikSnuffii: if so, what do you have on your machine now?11:54
Snuffiidipnlik, no i need to make one more partition for wn11:55
dipnlikSnuffii: if the win partition needs to be read AND written from Linux, go for fat32. 11:56
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dipnlikSnuffii: if you really need ntfs, then let windows do the repartitioning (and double check you have a boot floppy just in case something gets screwed up)11:58
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KaoticEvilhey everyone :)12:16
naliothKaoticEvil: howdy12:16
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KaoticEvilnalioth:  do you ever sleep? :P12:16
KaoticEvilspoken like a true geek! :) ^5 man12:17
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aeon17xI bet nalioth is also a bot.12:23
aeon17xYou know, like the ones in Alien.12:23
naliothaeon17x: shhh. dont give me away12:23
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fruudwhats the cvs command to get amsn CVS version ? :$ 01:13
Tm_Twhy amsn?01:13
Tm_Tuse Kopete, kid01:14
Tm_Tand no, I won't help you a bit with amsn01:14
fruudty :)01:15
Tm_Tso he doesn't need help with kopete either...01:15
kubuntu_guyhi guys01:16
kubuntu_guyhow to join win98 machine to my samba server01:16
jk-you'll need quite a lot of gaffa tape01:17
kubuntu_guymy winxp and 200 already join my samba but on my win98 01:17
Tm_Tdoes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba help ?01:17
kubuntu_guyno I already try it but no succesful01:19
Tm_Tsorry, I'm not familiar with samba01:19
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kubuntu_guyk tm thanks01:21
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chanweichunghow to install LINUX???01:23
Tm_T_root__: small hint, don't irc as root ;)01:23
Tm_Tchanweichung: err, what you mean?01:24
dipnlikchanweichung: burn a CD and boot your PC with it01:24
chanweichungso, how about the windows01:24
dipnlikchanweichung: you mean keeping your windows intact?01:25
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dipnlikchanweichung: get some free and unpartitioned space on your HD then install Linux01:25
naliothchanweichung: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo01:25
chanweichungso...i just put in the cd and install..is it ??01:26
dipnlikchanweichung: following the advice in the page nalioth pointed you t01:27
ddhis there a kmobiletools package for breezy?01:28
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dipnlikI didn't know kubuntu installer came with a disk resizing tool, neat :)01:28
chanweichungok, thank for ur help...01:29
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dipnlikchanweichung: good luck01:29
_guesthow to install the java in Linux01:29
naliothubotu: tell _guest about java01:30
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_guesthow to open cdrom01:36
_guestwhat commend for open cdrom?01:37
_guestwhat command for open cdrom?01:37
dipnlikTm_T: he left, forget about it01:39
Tm_Tyes, I know01:39
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Tm_Tbut it's part of "fun" to tellaswer after they leved01:39
Tm_Tor so01:39
naliothof course it is, it educates the rest of us who are still here01:39
Tm_Tcan't type, more caffeine please ->01:39
_guestare u reply to me..01:40
_guestsorry l leave now01:40
_guestthanks ur welcome01:40
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volkeranybody can help me with this compileing error:http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/435902:12
naliothvolker: this method is easier http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155&highlight=enlightenment02:14
volkernalioth: ive installed e17 with apt-get install02:15
volkerbut i wanna compile e17genmenu02:15
naliothvolker: did you add the e17 repos before you installed?02:16
volkerive installed enlightenment and enlightenment-data02:17
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naliothvolker: did you follow that forum page?02:18
volkernalioth: yes02:18
naliothstrange. my e17genmenu compiled fine02:18
volkernalioth: it told me it cant find Engrave. But find -name 'Engrave.h' give me:/usr/include/engrave/Engrave.h02:20
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volkernalioth: can u tell me where i can dowload your e17genmenu.deb?02:34
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GNAMwhat's gksudo for kubuntu? ksudo?03:07
Kamping_Kaiseryes, IIRC03:08
naliothKamping_Kaiser: wake up and drink more beer03:09
ubotuUse kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.03:09
Kamping_Kaisernalioth: :| i use Gnome03:09
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naliothKamping_Kaiser: so do i03:10
naliothand enlightenment, and kde, and flux03:10
Kamping_Kaiserknow it all03:10
naliothi wish i did03:12
hussamYAY, I'm getting an LCD screen today. Not more CRT :)03:12
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hussamhow would I go about reconfiguring X?03:13
SnuffiiSomeone using Thomson Speedtouch 510  router ?03:13
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hussamdo I boot to recovery mode and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?03:14
hussamwhat about Modeline in xorg.conf. how will it rewrite that line?03:15
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klaaner-libbyHi :-) I have a question to KUbuntu's KDM. Every change I make to KDM with the control center is stored in /etc/kde3/kdm/... as I would expect it. But it seems like another login manager is started because nothing changes, no matter what I change in the config. How can I get the "normal" KDM?03:15
dawidyo all:)03:15
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sikor_sxei have a problem with the wireless settings in kubuntu breezy03:41
sikor_sxea) the network settings window in system settings is too large for my laptops 1024x768 display, i can't see the OK, Apply etc buttons - so i have do stuff blind03:42
sikor_sxethat's not a big hurdle, tho03:42
sikor_sxethe other problem is that when i try to enable my wlan0 card it enables it for about a second then disables it again03:43
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sikor_sxei have entered no WEP-key, since there is no encryption yet03:44
sikor_sxejust a SSID03:44
sikor_sxei entered the right one03:44
sikor_sxewhen i do "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "myessid" & "sudo dhclient wlan0" everything works fine :/03:45
sikor_sxeanyone got an idea what might be wrong?03:45
sikor_sxemaybe find some logs to tell what's missing?03:46
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Niomithere are large blank spaces between my system tray icons.. it's taking up a lot of room.. how can I get rid of it?04:01
naliothNiomi: right click on em and move em?04:02
Niomiright clicking brings up whatever menu the application has :/04:03
kkathmangreetings all :)04:04
naliothare we talking the kicker icons or the program buttons (of active programs)04:04
Niominot sure if they are called kicker icons. but klipper et. al.04:05
naliothNiomi: i'm not up on all the exact titles of the things04:07
Niominalioth: klipper is the clipboard application -- should i take a screenshot?04:08
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naliothno, i was just tryin to understand which things you were referring to04:09
kkathmanNiomi: you are probably talking about the application icons04:12
kkathmanare they located on the far left?04:12
Niomii have them on the far right, actually, but they may be right by default. the windows equivalent had something simular right next to the clock, since that was what i'm used to I put it there.04:13
Niomierr, left by default, i meant. i should get some tea. o_o04:14
kkathmanahh ok these are the tray icons Im sure04:14
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Niomii have two of them, there's a bunch of empty space between the two, and some more empty space on the right. it takes up a lot of room i'd like for the taskbar :/04:15
sproingiespaces between the small icons themselves?  dont think there's anything you can do there.  something's probably putting blank icon in there04:15
sproingieyou can drag the tray gripper to the right to get rid of the space on the right04:15
kkathmanThese are controlled under the System Settings -> Panel04:15
kkathmanYou also may need to make the tray/applet handles visible. This is done in that same area, by clicking on the Appearance tab, going to the Advanced Options and clicking Visible.04:16
sproingiekicker gets a good kick in 3.5, no?  i'd love to see smarter dragging of buttons04:17
kkathmansproingie: they are pretty smart now, just you have to know where to go04:17
kkathmanMost people just use the defaults and there are lots of options there04:18
sproingieyep, it's buried.  smart means figuring it out without manual overrides04:18
sproingietho at least kicker in 3.4 is more stable than it was in 3.304:18
kkathmansproingie: yah it is a bit buried..but, I dont want it to be too smart. Cuz then you run the risk of it locating where you dont want it04:19
kkathmanFor instance I like my tray next to the app icons, and then put my open windows next to that04:20
Flixorwas wondering i have a geforce 1 card is there support for this card 04:20
Flixorbtw Hi kkathman 04:20
kkathmanHey Flixor !04:20
kkathmanFlixor: you up to 100% now?04:20
sproingiei think the 2-line taskbar needs to go.  it screws the whole fitts law thing, makes you aim04:20
Flixorwhat do you mean kkathman to 100%04:21
kkathmanFlixor: health wise :)04:21
kkathmanand btw Flixor try this thread:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21554.html04:22
Flixorwell i think so 04:22
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Flixorstill a little bit weak but its going good yes 04:22
klaaner-libbyHi :-) Seems like the default kubuntu installation uses UTF-8. How can I change de_DE-UTF8 to de_DE-ISO-8859-1?04:22
Niomikkathman: here's a crop of my system tray: http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/530/sys3sr.jpg04:23
sproingiejust noticed the clock has a weird default font.  "DejaVu Sans 16".  i don't even have that font04:23
sproingieit's defaulting to a plain sans04:23
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kkathmanNiomi: if you'll look at what I wrote up there, and experiment with those settings I think you'll get what you want04:24
Niomikkathman: i looked through all the panel settings and i couldn't find anything for it.. i'm trying to load a screenshot with upped contrast (the handles are hard to see, but they're there) but i'm having trouble for some reason o_o04:26
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Niomiokay, my browser was cacheing the page i was using to upload, so i used something else. sorry i'm so disorganised XD http://tinypic.com/fkzl9w.jpg04:29
Niomihopefully that's easier to see.. i can move the whole tray around but not the individial icons04:30
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sproingienot a custom theme, is it?04:31
kkathmanNiomi: The settings in the Panel, should allow you almost infinite configuration of this04:31
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kkathmanNiomi: then you need only to move the tray where you want it using the handles04:32
kkathmanNiomi: Adjust it using the percentage, or size04:32
Niomiyou mean the settings for the whole toolbar? with the 'expand as required to fit contents' checkbox?04:33
kkathmanNiomi: but it looks like you should be able to just grab the applet handles and move it right04:33
Niomiconfigure system tray only allows hiding of certain icons.04:33
sproingiethat's checked by default on the tray.  it doesn't space the icons out04:33
kkathmanNiomi: no...System Settings -> PANEL!!!04:33
kkathmannot the whole toolbar04:34
Niomii'm there! the only percentage i can find is the one for the toolbar. which is considered a panel, which is why it's in the panel settings.04:35
kkathmanI think all you have to do is move the tray to the right04:35
Niomiwhen i move the tray to the right it keeps that space04:35
sproingieis the panel itself set to "expand as required"?  that might affect packing them together as well04:35
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Niomiwell, it's set to 100%, expand was checked but unchecking and applying doesn't make any difference :/04:36
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kkathmanNiomi: ok...so what happens if you just put your cursor over the tray applet handle, click and drag the tray to the right?04:37
kkathmanyou might want to leave it this way, BTW, because things like Superkaramba, kopete, and Kontact open tray icons down there04:37
kkathmanyou can always remove the tray completely too04:38
sproingiei suspect it won't pack the icons back back together ... i've never seen it expand them like that 04:38
naliothkkathman is the man with the plan04:38
sproingiepersonally i'd rather like it if trays could lay out their contents and space them out evenly.  would come in handy for the app icons04:39
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sproingieer s/trays/panels/04:39
kkathmannalioth:  :)04:40
sproingiebah.  gf spilled coffee on my mouse and now the left button is sticky.  wonder how to clean it04:40
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sproingiespray solvent comes to mind ... it'll probably eat the plastic tho04:41
kkathmansproingie: from what I see, she only has 1 icon in her tray, but the panel will reserve some space in the tray space for other apps.04:42
sproingieit looked like there were two ... that gray rectangle04:42
Niomikkathman, moving to the right retains the extra empty space on the right. i have two icons, one is the K for klipper and the other is just a square. the gray rectagle.04:43
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Niomicompare: http://tinypic.com/fkzl9w.jpg moving to right --> http://tinypic.com/fkzos0.jpg04:43
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kkathmanNiomi: ok, lets do this then...place your cursor over the tray/applet handle and right click, this should give you an option to configure the tray. Open this and tell me what apps are checked04:45
klaaner-libbyI have set the default LANG from de_DE.UTF8 to de_DE.iso-8859-15. Now everything works fine with X, but I have problems with the console: When I'm asked for a login name German Umlatus still work, but when I'm logged in, they don't. What must I do?04:45
Niomivisible icons: klipper, workrave tray icon. hidden icons: none.04:46
kkathmanNiomi: note you can "hide" certain of these icons...I just want to know what that square is...I didnt notice it before because of the contrast of the screenshot04:46
Niomiyeah, i turned up the contrast too.. it's easier to see the way my monitor is set up04:46
`NomadHi.. I just added a second HD as slave to my installation..  Instead of doing it by hand at the console, I'd like to use the onboard GUI tools, what are they?  I tried the tool in the "System Settings" menu option but it doesn't seem to work on it unless I manually fdisk a partition on the disk first04:48
kkathmanPlease right click on the applet handle and choose "Configure System Tray"04:48
Niomithat's what i did. visible icons: klipper, workrave tray icon. hidden icons: none. i don't see any other options or tabs.04:49
sproingie`Nomad: not sure if managing partitions is in the settings... if you want something clicky, you could try qtparted04:49
`Nomadsproingie: Installing it now, thanks.. I want to see what's available for non-technical users :)04:50
=== sproingie personally just uses fdisk ... you only do it once anyway
kkathmanNiomi: I dont know what "workrave" is, but you can try moving it to the hidden side.  04:50
kkathmanNiomi: I think the tray is going to automatically reserve some space anyway, it may just be doing that04:51
=== `Nomad too, but he's encouraging non-tech friends to look at Kubuntu
Niomiwhen workrave is hidden klipper takes up a nice small amount of space, but when i click the little arrow it expands out again. workrave must be the problem04:52
sproingiei think workrave has some issues with its tray icon size04:52
kkathmanNiomi: ya I dont know what Workrave is. But it might not be behaving properly04:53
Niomiblarg, what a pain. workrave is an application that kicks you off the computer and locks the screen, i have mine set for a ten minute break every forty-five minutes.. keeps my butt from getting sore :P gnome has something simular in keboard settings > typing break04:54
Niomibut workrave doesn't appear to be working correctly either. i need to mess with it some more.. blegh04:55
Niomithanks for your time anyway, especially on such a silly problem.. >_< one of those peeves04:56
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naliothNiomi: no problem is silly05:04
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Niominalioth: thanks, as i've said before, you gurus have incredible patience.05:05
naliothguru? is that a wild animal?05:06
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Niominalioth: gurus are strange creatures, no one has quite been able to tame them. :P05:11
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kkathmanHave I said lately how much a F*g hate windows ??05:14
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kkathmanwhy is it that when they release a "security" update, it secures me from listening to anything by disabling my sound card?05:15
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naliothkkathman: sounds like one of those sony upgrades05:18
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Niomiwhen i switched to linux from windows and set up my system monitor, i couldn't understand why my RAM meter displayed 800ish/1gig. i didn't know what linux could be doing that would be using all that memory. it took me forever to realise it was measuring the ran i had -free-.05:22
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naliothNiomi: linux is an experience you have to ,well, experience05:22
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andrzejmanveru j'll make reinstall and now j don't have fuc**g bouncing cursor:d05:26
andrzejsombady have a repository to gstreamer?05:27
manveruandrzej: you really did?05:27
andrzejin 1,5 houer05:28
andrzejwitch all configurations05:28
andrzejand have you repository to gsteramer package?05:30
naliothandrzej: enable universe and multiverse repositories05:31
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Tm_T!info firestarter05:49
ubotufirestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 384 kB, Installed size: 1904 kB05:49
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Pinarafwhen will we have KDE 3.5 rc1 packages for breezy ?06:06
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naliothPinaraf: visit kubuntu.org and have fun06:07
PinarafI didn't find it a few hours ago06:07
naliothPinaraf: we have 3.5b2 available for guinea pigs06:07
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PinarafKDE 3.5 rc1 is being propagated on the mirrors currently, and I don't see kubuntu packages with it06:08
Pinarafwhen the beta2 was released, the kubuntu packages were provided06:08
naliothPinaraf: you have to add the testing repos06:08
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Pinarafnalioth: where can I find these testing repositories ? I searched on the wiki, but I didn't find06:12
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Pinarafyou already said it06:14
naliothkkathman: are you present?06:14
naliothkkathman: Pinaraf wants you to tell him wehre the kubuntu kde 3.5b2 repos is06:15
naliothPinaraf: they are right next door to the b2 repos06:16
kkathmanat kde.org or kubuntu.org06:16
PinarafI already have beta2 since weeks06:16
kkathmankde 3.5beta2 is a bad release with lots of probs.06:16
naliothholy cow06:16
kkathmanyou have to downgrad the artsd06:16
naliothPinaraf: sorry dude, i misunderstood. too many numbers06:17
kkathmanto get things to wrok06:17
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Pinaraflftp ftp.kde.org:/pub/kde/unstable/3.5-rc1> ls06:17
Pinarafdrwxr-xr-x    6 ftpuser  ftpgroup     4096 Nov 11 06:25 SuSE06:17
Pinarafdrwxr-xr-x    3 ftpuser  ftpgroup     4096 Nov 10 10:36 src06:17
kkathmanok so whats the issue then?06:17
Pinarafno kubuntu package on kde.org06:17
kkathmanPinaraf: of course not...but they do have kde 3.5b206:17
kkathmanbut you have that installed it seems06:17
kkathmanSO>...I repeat...whats the issue06:17
PinarafI don't care about beta206:18
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kkathmanneither do I :)06:18
naliothkkathman: he wants the latest hot smokin kde 06:18
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PinarafI'd like to know *when* rc1 packages will be available, because I'm fed up with some beta2 bugs06:18
kkathmanPinaraf: you need to understand, this is Kubuntu....that doesnt mean support for KDE in general06:19
yudidoes anyone know,.. how to turn on the telnet on kubuntu v5.04, so i can telnet my linux box, and use the konsole06:19
kkathmanyou want advanced RC candidates...the news and support is through KDE.org06:20
Pinarafwhy aren't the kubuntu packages available yet ? when the beta2 folder was created on the ftp, the kubuntu packages was with it...06:20
yudii try from windows telnet (kubuntu), but error: Connect Failed06:20
naliothyudi: dont use telnet, use ssh06:20
PinarafI know that, but the src is available, why aren't the kubuntu packages available like with every beta release I saw ?06:20
kkathmanBecause, brilliantly, the kubuntu people realized that the b2 was crap, and decided it was a bad idea to promote bad software06:20
naliothPinaraf: because our kde guy hasnt made em yet06:20
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Pinarafhe is alone ?06:21
kkathmanif you want to be on bleeding edge...you need to follow KDE.org...not kubuntu06:21
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kkathmanPinaraf: it was a mistake to promote b2...so basically we lived and learned06:21
Pinarafso if I want to test KDE 3.5 I have to recompile it ? If my friends are fed up with some KDE 06:22
Pinarafsome KDE 3.4 bugs, they have to wait ? (They want to test 3.5 too)06:22
kkathmanpretty much yes06:23
kkathmanThats the price anyone pays, when they leave the support repos and go off on their own06:24
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kkathmaneven with debs that might be available06:24
kkathmanand there's no guarantee that they will compile06:24
kkathmanits just the price you pay for that06:24
MrAdnanwhen i try to open  the adept it ask me for pass, i put my pass but it's wrong06:25
MrAdnanhow i can regain or fix this ?06:26
Pinarafkkathman: you consider beta2 == rc106:26
Pinarafrc1 must be almost stable06:26
Pinarafyou can also make packages available without promoting them !06:26
kkathmanPinaraf: thats a bad policy actually and defeats the definitions of the repos06:27
Pinarafwhy ?06:27
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yudinalioth: do i need to set something on linux? so i can use ssh..06:27
Pinarafwhy aren't you providing these packages even in the dapper repositories ?06:28
spiraldo you guys mean that even 3.5 final won't be packaged for breezy ?06:28
naliothyudi: sudo apt-get install ssh 06:28
yudinalioth: ok06:28
dataangelyou can already get 3.5 beta 2 packages for kubuntu06:29
Pinarafwhy are there some gnome 2.13 packages in the dapper repositories, while no KDE 3.5 is available06:29
dataangelwhich would hit that they should release final packages06:29
Pinarafdataangel: these packages are wrong06:29
naliothPinaraf: dapper is more then 5 months to completion06:29
dataangelPinaraf: What packages are wrong? Why are they wrong?06:29
Pinarafarts for instance06:29
Pinarafit won't run at all06:29
Pinarafand look at what kkathman said : no KDE 3.5 rc1 package06:29
Pinarafthat means no testing for KDE 3.5 in breezy any longer06:30
dataangelPinaraf: If you mean the beta2 packages, they're not 'wrong' it's just buggy software. That's why it's beta.06:30
naliothPinaraf: patience, friend06:30
kkathmanPinaraf: you can test anything you want in breezy...thats not what I said06:30
Pinarafthere is a kubuntu specific bug in arts06:30
dataangelSeems weird to have beta2 testing but not rc1 testin06:30
PinarafI'm using dapper06:30
kkathmanif you want to get an RC when its ready...go for it06:30
Pinarafthe RC is ready06:30
Pinaraflook at suse : the packages are already available06:30
spiralkkathman: it won't be packaged for breezy ? so the people who tried kde 3.5beta2 with kubuntu packages won't be able to upgrade with them ?06:31
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spiralreally lovely politic...06:31
kkathmanspiral: I didnt say that...all I said was the if you wanted it early, before a kubuntu pkg was created, you'd have to do it yourself06:31
spiralkkathman: i don't want it early, but I want it packaged, as beta2 was...06:32
spiralthat's all06:32
spiraland if possible, before KDE 4 release date06:32
Pinarafand Suse packages are available, sources are available06:32
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dataangelPinaraf: A package made specifically for kubuntu isn't around yet as far as I know. And a dapper package isn't automagically compatible with breezy, that's why we have backports.06:32
Pinarafthere's no reason for kubuntu packages not to be available06:32
PinarafI'm on dapper on that computer06:33
Pinarafand on breezy on my laptop06:33
dataangelPinaraf: Except that no one has done it yet.06:33
Pinarafdataangel: why ?06:33
Pinarafbeta1 packages were available06:33
Pinarafbeta2 packages were available06:33
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Pinarafwhy didn't the team release rc1 packages ?06:33
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naliothPinaraf: when did rc1 release?06:33
dataangelPinaraf: They just haven't. :P They maybe encountering a bug or other issue in the packaging process, the packaging maintainer maybe busy with something else, who knows06:33
Pinarafnalioth: it's on the mirrrors06:34
dataangelrc1 released on the 9th06:34
dataangelor at least was supposed to06:34
naliothPinaraf: then it will be available for kubuntu shortly06:34
Pinarafdataangel: I believed we had an open development process06:34
naliothPinaraf: feel free to d/l the source from kde.org and build it for us06:34
dataangelPinaraf: Open development process doesn't mean we can all read minds ;)06:35
Pinarafthat means answers like "who knows" aren't answers !06:35
spiralnalioth: if I compile kde on my computer, this'll take at least a week, and I can't afford it06:35
dataangelPinaraf: With some googling you could probably find out who the packager is, maybe he/she will even have a blog, and maybe there will be a posting about trouble packaging 3.5 rc1 ;)06:35
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naliothi can guarantee you guys, that if it's out, it's being built for breezy/dapper as we speak06:36
Pinarafdataangel: package maintainer is "Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org>"06:36
Pinarafquite unusable06:36
dataangelPinaraf: how is it unusable?06:36
Pinarafunusable to find a blog06:36
spiralnalioth: 'hope you're true, & I'll wait for it06:36
dataangelPinaraf: You just got a mailing list address. You could subscribe to it and read it.06:37
Pinarafthere's nothing about it in the archives of the mailing list06:37
dataangelPinaraf: the point is, the packages will come. It's only been 2 days. It takes a fast machine 24 hours to compile KDE, not taking into account the time it takes to coordinate the qt/kde maintainers and diagnose any problems that have been run into.06:37
PJeremywhat does fmask 0111 mean?06:37
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dataangelPinaraf: Unless you've paid somebody to work on the packages, I suggest you quit yer bitchin'06:38
naliothdataangel is correct. it will be a few days b4 kubuntu pkgs show up06:38
PinarafI only want to know why ?06:39
PinarafIs that forbidden ?06:39
naliothPinaraf: you can always read the debian new maintainers guide and pkg them for us06:39
dataangelPinaraf: I think you've been given plenty of why. If the process were anymore 'open' we'd have to design some sort of monitoring program to run on the maintainers machines that would measure how far along the compile process is and post it on a website. The time spent developing that would make the packages take longer to get here :P06:40
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dataangelPinaraf: Security and critical fixes also probably take priority over packaging beta software. Give 'em time06:41
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[Surge] What's the trick to getting sources that are authenticated?06:43
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naliothubotu: tell [Surge]  about gpgerr06:43
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[Surge] Doesn't look like it's going to be helpful :)06:44
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Pinarafthere isn't any "donate" link on the website... So how can I give money to kubuntu ?06:45
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[Surge] Thank nalioth 06:45
[Surge] s/Thank/Thanks06:46
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[Surge] Pinaraf: No one seems to want any money :D06:47
Otismy box boots to a cmd line although it says "Starting K Display Manager : kdm" .... what's the problem ?06:47
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nyxi've installed kubuntu 5.10 in my computer, but it doesn't start in the graphical mode. i'm a GREAT NEWBIE, and my english is awful, im sorry. what can i do?06:49
Otisheh, what a co-incidence ... looks like we ahve the same problem06:50
Pinarafnyx: what is you graphic card ?06:50
naliothnyx: que idioma?06:50
Otisexcept that I *have* been able to start the KDE desktop once before06:50
PJeremycan i just edit /etc/fstab for a fat32 to be rw with umask=000 ?06:52
manveruPJeremy: yeap06:52
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nyxPinaraf. nalioth. Espaol :) Creo que es una tarjeta de video genrica, on board. Ahora me fijo... S3 Graphics ProSavage?06:53
PinarafI don't speak spanish06:53
PJeremymanveru: i thought so, i was just wondering because of the line in the wiki "user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000" and i don't know what fmask is06:53
manveruPJeremy: well, the manpage to fstab should tell you that06:54
naliothnyx: yo habla muy poquito espaol, vaya usted de #ubuntu-es o #ubuntu-br (por portugues)06:54
manveruPJeremy: ok, it doesn't...06:54
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kkathmannalioth: thats not bad...good spanish :)07:03
nyxOk, thanks anyway! :)07:03
nyxyeah ;D07:03
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naliothkkathman: good spanish where?07:03
nisqCan anyone help me.  I installed the Flash media to a 64bit version of ubuntu 5.10, set the *.so and .xpt in the plugins on firefox, now my firefox will not execute07:04
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naliothnisq: flash wont work in the 64bit ubuntu07:04
nisqI heard that, any solutions,  or do I need to install the i386 version...   Macro-media claims it works07:05
naliothnisq: you wont like the solutions07:05
nisqjust asking |)~    I may not like the solutions,  But I can handle a beating07:06
naliothnisq: you'll need to get the 32bit firefox and run it and the flash in a 32bit chroot environment07:06
naliothnisq: or dump the (not very user friendly) amd64 arch for 68607:07
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naliothdont get me wrong, amd64 arch is great for scientific or business use, but if you want to watch movies or listento music, it kinda sucks07:07
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fyrmedicanyone familiar with getting mp3's to work in amarok07:10
jeroenvrpfyrmedic: what is the problem07:11
fyrmedicjeroenvrp: I can't get amarok to open or recognize the mp3 level 3 files that I have. I tried using juk and it recognized them and moved them to the juk collection fut they won't play on either app.07:12
fyrmedicI tried adept to find any plugins that I may be missing but to no avail.07:13
jeroenvrpdid you uncomment universe07:14
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jeroenvrpfyrmedic: do you have "mad" installed?07:14
naliothubotu: tell fyrmedic about mp307:15
fyrmedicno, what is mad07:15
jeroenvrpfyrmedic: that is the codec you meed07:16
naliothfyrmedic: follow the info ubotu just sent you07:16
jeroenvrpI think it sits in the universe repo07:16
jeroenvrpfyrmedic: what us the engine you are using in Amarok07:16
jeroenvrpfyrmedic: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s07:17
fyrmedicubotu didn't send me anything.07:17
ubotufyrmedic: Do they come in packets of five?07:17
naliothfyrmedic: look to your private messages07:17
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fyrmedicjeroenvrp: I have tried a couple of them so far. I just have the default install of kubuntu so far with the current upgrades07:18
fyrmedicI found the ubotu stuff07:19
jeroenvrpfollow me07:19
naliothfyrmedic: follow that and then see what happens07:19
jeroenvrpfyrmedic: ok follow the  ubotu stuff07:19
fyrmedicI will give it a try. thanks guys.07:19
jeroenvrpfyrmedic: allthough you can also install amarok-xine and switch the engine in amarok to xine07:20
jeroenvrpthat is just an extra tip07:20
fyrmedicjeroenvrp: how do I uncomment universe? I have seen it in gnome but cant find it in adept on KDE07:21
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jeroenvrpfyrmedic: that is easy07:21
jeroenvrp1 moment, i launch adept07:21
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jeroenvrpfyrmedic: go to Adept-menu07:22
jeroenvrpfirephoto: manage repos...07:22
fyrmedicok I see now thanks07:22
mactallaThis "Adept" that comes with Kubuntu, is that how I can install new packages as well?  I can't seem to find any option in it to search/install new pkgs, only updating currently installed pkgs.07:22
jeroenvrpfyrmedic: you're welcome07:22
jeroenvrpmactalla: there is a search function07:23
jeroenvrpon top 07:23
mactallaMy apologies for the stupid question.  I just found out "Adept" and "Adept Updater" are different.  Had opened the wrong one.07:23
jeroenvrpmactalla: np07:24
jeroenvrpallthough I prefer Synaptic07:24
fyrmedicme too07:24
jeroenvrpI prefer it actually for one thing, and that is a better search option07:25
jeroenvrpquick filter is to fuzzy07:26
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kkathmanjeroenvrp: the quick filter is still adequate...and Adept is only the first release too...better things to come in the future Im sure07:27
nisqmactalla:  where can one read about adept - is there a user manual out there?07:27
kkathmanI do like the way that kynaptic/synaptic divide the apps to categories tho07:28
jeroenvrpkkathman: I like the program, but Quick filter always give me to much results07:28
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[Surge] Arg! Stupid sources thing07:28
kkathmanjeroenvrp: right, I have frustrations in both actually07:28
[Surge] Why the heck are they never authenticated?07:28
kinfoi don't understand.07:29
jeroenvrpkkathman: In synaptic I can choose how I want to search and normally it is only on name07:29
naliothubotu: tell [Surge]  about gpgerr07:29
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kkathmanjeroenvrp: yep, but sometimes I dont know the name, and Im looking for something, and cant really decide what "category" its in07:29
jeroenvrpbtw anyone knwos when KDE 3.5 RC1 will be available for Kubuntu?07:29
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[Surge] Yeah I have patience but shouldn't it work after 2 days of trying?07:30
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kkathmanjeroenvrp: kde.org has this info07:30
murtaughDoes anyone know if there is an apt source for 2.6.14 kernel?07:30
kkathman[Surge] : dont know what you are talking about07:30
jeroenvrpkkathman: ok, yes that is more a category thing, but I don't use those actually07:30
paraxsomebody knows if there is a deb package of wlassistant for kubuntu breezy?07:30
jeroenvrpkkathman: kde.org has no info yet07:31
[Surge] I'm trying to do a dist-upgrade and it keeps telling me about unvalidated packages07:31
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kkathmanjeroenvrp: its always good that we have multiple options...(s)(k)ynaptic/adept07:31
[Surge] About 2 pages full of packages not validated07:31
jeroenvrpbut 3.5rc1 is on ftp.kde.org since this afternoon (eu-time)07:31
jeroenvrpand the SuSE packages are allreafy there07:31
kkathman[Surge] : Im confused as to what you mean by "validated/unvalidated"07:31
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[Surge] Need to get 563MB/692MB of archives.07:32
[Surge] After unpacking 522MB of additional disk space will be used.07:32
[Surge] Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y07:32
[Surge] WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!07:32
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[Surge] 2 pages full07:32
kkathman[Surge] : please use pastebin, dont paste in the channel07:32
[Surge] Install these packages without verification [y/N] ?  07:32
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kkathman[Surge] : what are you upgrading from and to?07:32
[Surge] Hoary to Breezy07:33
kkathman[Surge] : you did change your repos and do an apt-get update right?07:33
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Ahmuckdoes kubuntu allow custom installation of disk partitions ?07:33
[Surge] Yes07:33
gsneddersif you download the install CD, does it need to download more packages off the web?07:33
kkathmanand you have a full ubuntu core base?07:34
[Surge] Ahmuck: Yes.  "man mount" "man fstab"07:34
[Surge] kkathman: I have the last release of Kubuntu installed07:34
naliothgsnedders: no and yes. it will run fine w/o an internet connection, but newer packages have become available07:34
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kkathman[Surge] : there were some really nice "pre-conversion" notes at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes07:34
gsneddersnalioth: what version of KDE is on the CD?07:35
Ahmuckmount and fstab is after the fact isn't it ?  while kubuntu is installing i would like to format a /home partition i can install new without worring about upgrading, etc.07:35
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Ahmuckthat way i keep my custom configs and my data in my home directory untouched07:35
[Surge] Oh - yeah custom partitioning is in the installer07:35
gsneddersnalioth: 3.4.3?07:35
[Surge] I kept my old /home and only redid /07:36
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jeroenvrpgsnedders: yes 3.4.307:37
kdudeany Samba gurus here?07:37
jeroenvrp[Surge] : seems like you didnt install the keys07:37
jeroenvrpI have a workaround for you07:37
[Surge] Hmmm ... I didn't know I had to install keys.07:38
kdudecan somebody help me with samba please?07:38
mactallanisq: I have no idea.  Just trying it out myself.  Couldn't find squat on the web, but it seems straight forward poking around at it.  No manual needed in my case.07:39
jeroenvrp[Surge] : forget what I said, I thought you could disable validation somewhere, but can't find it anymore (I used SuSE apt before)07:39
[Surge] kdude: Tell us your problem and someone may have an answer07:39
jeroenvrp[Surge] : those keys should install themselve07:39
jeroenvrpI thought07:39
[Surge] jeroenvrp: Yes they should - not all the packages are unverified07:40
jeroenvrpbut I have no experience in upgrading hoary to breezy07:40
[Surge] And I see the GPG keys getting downloaded07:40
[Surge] Oh well I'll just say yes to everything :)07:40
jeroenvrp[Surge] : so maybe your sources.list is not valid somehow?!07:40
nalioththe gpg problem is on teh server side, not in your machines07:40
kdude[Surge] : I need to setup Samba as a PDC for a windowsPC to do some testing for my company.. 07:41
jeroenvrp[Surge] : I think I know07:41
jeroenvrphad that once07:41
kdude[Surge] : I am using webmin.. but kinda lost..07:41
jeroenvrpwhat is your sources.list servername07:41
kdudeam I missing something.07:41
[Surge] server name?07:41
jeroenvrpwhat are the ??07:42
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jeroenvrp[Surge] : anyhow you should remove the ??.07:43
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jeroenvrpso you have http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/07:43
jeroenvrpdo a apt-get update07:43
jeroenvrpand try again07:43
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[Surge] archive.ubuntu.com  security.ubuntu.com07:43
jeroenvrp[Surge] : so no country prefixes>?07:43
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[Surge] Nope07:43
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jeroenvrp[Surge] : sorry I'm out of options07:43
[Surge] I used the stuff that the bot listed07:44
[Surge] !repositories07:44
uboturumour has it, repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list07:44
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PJeremycrap...how difficult is a XP reinstall when kubuntu is already installed?07:47
[Surge] PJeremy: Depends on the partition/disk setup07:47
troyPJeremy: do you want to overwrite kubuntu, or install alongside?07:48
PJeremytroy: i just accidentally rm -r'ed it..07:48
jeroenvrpPJeremy: are you sure :-)07:48
troyPJeremy: assuming it's already got a partition handy and ready to go, not too hard07:48
PJeremyi was sure i had unmounted the partition, wanted to mount it in a different directory and rm -r the old directory..07:49
troyPJeremy: the only issue you might have is with the boot loader 07:49
PJeremyapparently it didn't unmount it in the old directory..07:49
PJeremyjeroenvrp: well, yes, since games with wine/cedega aren't that great...07:50
[Surge] But reloading the bootloader shouldn't be much of a hassle as long as you have the Kubuntu CD to boot off.07:50
jeroenvrpPJeremy: :-) ah, I don't play games07:50
fyrmedicjeroenvrp: got the mp3's working fine. Thanks07:50
PJeremyjeroenvrp: i only do when a friend comes over07:50
jeroenvrpfyrmedic: great :-)07:51
PJeremy[Surge] : yea i do.07:51
jeroenvrpfyrmedic: I advise to use Xine as the Amarok engine btw07:51
PJeremyjeroenvrp: why not gstreamer?07:52
PJeremyjeroenvrp: personal preference?07:52
jeroenvrpPJeremy: gstreamer sometimes is not so stable is my personal experience and sometime you also must do a gstr-register and taht is annoying07:53
jeroenvrpbut that was on SuSE07:53
jeroenvrpand Xine is the fastest and most lightwight07:53
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jeroenvrpweight :-(07:53
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[Surge] PJeremy: If you lose the boot loader07:54
PJeremyjeroenvrp: ah okay, haven't had a problem with either yet.07:54
[Surge] Stick in CD and use one of the admin/rescue modes (not sure what it's called)07:54
[Surge] Then reinstall the bootloader like so : grub --install /dev/hda07:54
jeroenvrpPJeremy: in the past Xine was limited, but not anymore07:54
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PJeremyi just don't get it, it said that hda1 wasn't mounted..yet it just removed everything..07:57
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chakiecan k3b copy an encrypted dvd? ie. a normal movie?08:02
[Surge] PJeremy: What does "df" say?08:02
chakieit just says "can not copy encrypted dvd"08:02
naliothchakie: then it can't08:05
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chakienalioth: ok08:06
murtaughI've compiling the 2.6.14 kernel and im using this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835, I'm doing a make oldconfig and its automatically selecting processor type etc. I want to change those. Is that something i'll be able to change in a menu later on?08:07
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PJeremy[Surge] : /home /boot / 08:07
_bradis there a vnc viewer in the default install of Kubuntu08:08
[Surge] PJeremy: It can't say that little08:08
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[Surge] It should show the mount points and device names together08:09
[Surge] Example  : /dev/hda5            149027164 112536304  36490860  76% /home08:09
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PJeremy[Surge] : yes, i just shortened it to that here because the rest isn't that important is it08:11
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PJeremy[Surge] : i mean regarding the non-existance of hda1..08:11
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kkathmanis there a specific way to know what version of a package I would be installing if I d/l using apt-get?  I can do an apt-cache, but I'd like to know the version also.08:13
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naliothkkathman: apt-cache show pkgnname08:15
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kkathmanthe man pages on apt-cache indicate there is a -v option but it doesnt work08:16
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PJeremy[Surge] : did you get the query?08:17
kkathmanwow gambas in our repos is like 9 revisions behind :(08:17
v-doggthere's no ubuntu mini-cd available, is there?08:18
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hussamis there a kde/QT3 based alternative to inkscape? I don't want to install inkscape08:20
raphinkI don't know anything better than inkscape in its field hussam 08:20
raphinkyou might look on kde-apps though08:22
kkathmanhey there raphink :)08:23
raphinkhi kkathman 08:23
raphinkhussam: have a look at MyDraw http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2608408:24
raphinkoh well sorry mydraw is java08:25
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raphinknothing else I can find on kde-apps hussam 08:28
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hussamme neither, I looked08:29
raphinkinkscape is a really good program though08:29
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[Surge] raphink: Yes but the only thing is neither it nor any other Linux app can render SVG text 100% correctly to a raster image08:30
raphinkhmm so?08:31
[Surge] Try render text on a path to a PNG in inkscape, ksvg, etc. :)08:31
[Surge] They all battle08:31
[Surge] But otherwise I love SVG08:32
raphinkyou can't compare svg and png08:32
raphinkthey are not the same kind of formats08:32
raphinknot intended for the same jobs08:32
[Surge] No but if you're using SVG to create something that you want to use on a 3D model it's important08:34
[Surge] I create stuff in SVG and then render to a PNG and use it on 3D models in Blender08:34
[Surge] I'm not comparing the format - just saying that the rendering of SVG to a raster image is very "funky"  :)08:35
[Surge] i.e. Doesn't always work as advertized08:35
[Surge] Anyway a bit OT - back to Kubuntu!  :D08:35
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takmadeusI have a question09:04
takmadeusit is about Kppp09:04
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takmadeusI installed Kubuntu 5.10 and installed as well the drivers for my intel 536 ep modem09:05
takmadeusnow, the fact is that the only way for me to connect is to use pon or poff09:05
takmadeusbecause kppp won't create some "lock file"09:06
takmadeusand if I do not use the lock file, it will not find my modem09:06
takmadeusnow, how can I get kppp to work?09:07
takmadeusthanks in advance09:07
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jatosme has a problem with kaffeine09:20
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jatosinstalled w32 codecs, but it won't play mp3's or WMA's09:21
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kkathmanjatos what engine are you using in kaffeine?09:22
gdhjatos: install kaffeine-xine 09:22
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kkathmanyah exactly09:22
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kkathmansudo apt-get install kaffeine-xine09:22
kkathmanthen change your engine09:22
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kojakhow do i tell what version of kubuntu i have09:23
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gdhkojak: look at Help -> About KDE on any application09:24
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gdhtell us what version of KDE you have09:24
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kojakmy task menu says kubuntu 5.409:24
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gdhwell 5.04 is hoary :)09:25
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kojakhow can i update to breezy09:25
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gdhI don't actually know, I kinda fudged my own one - not sure what the 'right way' is09:26
gdhdoubtless the wiki or google will  know :)09:26
kkathmankojak:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes09:26
oshkojak: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list and replace the word "hoary" with the word "breezy". That's what I did and it worked great.09:26
gdhor kkathman will :)09:26
kkathmangdh wiki above is great09:27
oshand then do an "aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade".09:27
kojakosh thats all u did?09:27
kkathmanosh he needs to do the pre-upgrade things too09:27
kkathmanjust to make sure09:27
oshkkathman: I didn't but I'm no expert.09:27
oshkojak: listen to kkathman. He probably knows more than me. I'm a gentoo-fugitive.09:28
kkathmanosh - 90%  of the time just changing the repos and upgrade/dist-upgrade is enought09:28
kkathmanbut if you make sure the other things are there, it will be 100%09:28
kkathmankojak:  just follow that page I sent09:29
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oshisn't firefox a part of breezy or have I done some weird things to my repos?09:31
mmport81it is09:31
mmport81they changed the name09:31
mmport81to mozilla-firefox09:31
mmport81or just firefox09:31
mmport81or something09:31
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oshmy bad. I trusted the gui. now I have all the repos enabled.09:32
mmport81konq is cool tho - try out konq for a while, u'll be pleasantly surprised09:32
sambagirlmy launch panel was on top but now it is on the side and HUGE what can i do to get it back to the top and normal size?09:32
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oshmmport81: I know. I just convinced my bank to support mozilla. I don't think I can get them to support another browser... ;-)09:33
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mmport81sambagirl: right click the launch panel, then u should have "control panel configuration..." (not sure, my kde is in indonesian / german at the mo)09:37
sambagirli cant09:37
mmport81start up control panel09:37
sambagirlit is to big and all it does is launch the applicatoins see?09:37
sambagirlwhere is that?09:38
mmport81press alt+f209:38
mmport81type in kcontrol09:38
LjLsambagirl: by "launch panel" you mean just the KDE panel?09:38
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kyr0hi, the german translation of breeze sucks ;)09:39
mmport81then desktop settings > panels09:39
sambagirlthe thing on the top of the thing. you know? 09:39
mmport81i'm not german so the suckiness goes over my head ;)09:39
sambagirlwhere the life thing is and the earth and mozilla and evolutio was09:40
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kyr0kde translations etc. are very bad and really unsuccessful...09:40
sambagirlnow it's gone too09:40
LjLyeah, i'm italian but always prefer to use everything in english. terms and phrases are usually much clearer, and at least not totally wrong like they sometimes are in translations09:40
kyr0hmm i'm searching for the problem ;) is it a problem of the kubuntu packages ir a probem of the german translation team of kde?09:41
mmport81kyr0: i have also heard chinese complaining about windows translations, so kde isn't alone...09:41
LjLi'm definitely not thinking only about KDE09:41
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sambagirlis there anyway to undo the last 5 things ?09:41
sambagirli have no idea what i even did09:41
mmport81 sambagirl: just keep on messing around with those panel options etc09:42
mmport81you should get it sooner or later09:42
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kyr0LjL: hmm.. thats right but my english skills are not the best so i'm getting very tired by the time... and thats bad if you want to work ;)09:42
mmport81i think smabagirl is coming up against KDE's dreaded usability problems09:43
sambagirloh this is bad09:44
sambagirlbad bad bad09:44
mmport81maybe novell was right to concentrate on gnome ;)09:44
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sambagirlthis is yes09:44
mmport81got it?09:44
sambagirli think that is for handicapped?09:44
LjLyeah i suppose so. but anyway, it's a very worthwhile investment to learn good english, i mean, most of the useful stuff on the Internet is in english... i'm at university, and books tend to be more and more in english09:44
sambagirlthat must be it09:44
sambagirlthey are HUGE09:44
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sambagirlhow i change this?09:44
sambagirlyes gnome help and mozilla and the others are on side of monitor and taking up 1/3 of my screen!09:45
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mmport81ok do you have any bars on your desk top at all now?09:45
sambagirli cannot have this!09:45
mmport81try right clicking on the bar, have u got any options?09:46
kyr0hmm, btw: whats with the mp3 support in kubuntu?09:46
Glin|JolWinamp not Running09:46
ubotump3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)09:46
sambagirli see a foot, Applications, Places, System all crunched together into that 1/3 where as before it as all across the top like you have on the bottom.09:47
kyr0i know but it NEED it =)09:47
mmport81hold on09:47
mmport81u see a foot?09:47
LjLkyr0: you can get it, read that page09:47
mmport81and gnome help?09:47
mmport81are you sure u r using kde?09:47
kyr0LjL: good idea *g ;)09:47
sambagirlyes i installed kde09:48
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sambagirli have konquerer and a bunch of k type things09:48
sambagirlthis is NOT funny lol09:48
mmport81what does your "start" menu button look like?09:48
sambagirlwhat start button?09:49
LjLthe "K" button where you start programs from09:49
sambagirlwhat k button?09:49
sambagirli have a foot09:49
mmport81you are using gnome09:49
LjLoh that's gnome then09:49
mmport81you have prob installed kde and gnome09:50
sambagirli installed kde09:50
sambagirli updated to kde09:50
mmport81but youre system is starting gnome by default09:50
sambagirlthis is a mess09:50
kyr0LjL: fine, i think will get mp3 playig... thx btw ;)09:50
mmport81don't worry!09:50
mmport81you have a foot right?09:50
sambagirli have 2 feet09:51
LjLkyr0: no problem. the line that tells you to install the gstreamer plugins should do the trick without anything else, probably09:51
mmport81best thing to do09:51
mmport81is log off09:51
sambagirlcompuiter has 109:51
mmport81and when you have to sign in again09:51
sambagirlbut then i will lose all my channels and servers in xchat09:51
mmport81look for a session menu09:51
sambagirlthis computer has been on for weeks.09:51
mmport81or some similar option which has kde in it09:52
kyr0LjL: yes i think so too... perhaps i can get amarok playing mp3 while setting amaroks backend to gstreamer..09:52
mmport81just logout09:52
sambagirli have to get rid of this big thing first09:52
mmport81u don't have to restart or anything09:52
sambagirlbut i will lose my xchat connections 09:52
LjLkyro0: that's what i've done, and i recall it worked. amarok is set to use gstreamer by default. but i'm using it with just aRts now, as gstreamer was horribly slow for some reason09:52
kyr0LjL: cool, works =)09:52
mmport81if u logout, you will be able to find an option where u can login to kde09:52
kyr0LjL: arts... 09:53
sambagirloh really?09:53
mmport81and all will be well :)09:53
sambagirlso that is the sacrafice?09:53
kyr0LjL: i had and have always problems with arts *g... 09:53
LjLkyr0: well arts sort of works on my machine right now, but i definitely wouldn't swear it'd work on yours =)09:53
LjLor, just try direct alsa output09:53
sambagirli lose all my connections to various servers on irc but i "MAY" see an option to logon with kde09:53
mmport81u *should* be able to09:53
mmport81i have no experience with gnome, but last time i used it there was an option, at the login09:54
sambagirlthis truely is dreadful09:54
LjLyeah, there is an option in GDM. don't remember though09:54
sambagirloh god09:54
mmport81yeh do it09:54
mmport81there is an option09:54
kyr0LjL: arts without suid bit setted is the pure hell... arts with suid bit settet is the real hell if it crashes....09:54
mmport8199.99% sure09:54
LjLbut, if she does "dpkg-reconfigure kdm", she should be able to chose KDM for a display manager instead of GDM09:54
sambagirlis there a way to save my xchat settings and stuff?09:54
LjLthat'd make it easier09:54
mmport81use kopete - that's the kde one09:55
sambagirlthere is 154 users in this channel and only mmport81 can offer thoughts?09:55
mmport81has all IM networks built in09:55
LjLkyr0: i need ubuntu (and possibly gnu/linux in general) needs a good tidying up as far as audio is concerned09:55
sambagirllet me try that09:55
mmport81go for it:)09:55
sambagirldpkg-reconfigure kdm09:55
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Riddellkonversation is the KDE irc client09:56
mmport81u can do that too09:56
kyr0LjL: i think we need a REAL STABLE kernel in 2.6 tree...09:56
mmport81if u go into a console window09:56
LjLsambagirl: it's not quite like everyone here is looking at their screen.... or knows  all things about (k)ubuntu09:56
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mmport81and: sudo dkpg-reconfigure kdm09:56
sambagirldpkg-reconfigure kdm09:56
sambagirlok ljl09:56
sambagirli know09:56
mmport81kyr0: think you're right, why had linus had to change from 2.4 dev style...09:57
jatosopen /etc/apt/sources.list09:57
jatosthen see which versions repos's its set to use09:58
jatosignore that...09:58
LjLsambagirl: mmport81 is right though, you should prefix "sudo" before the command09:58
jatosI was reading a message way back... goes read09:58
sambagirlok so now what?09:58
sambagirlit idd it09:58
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sambagirlit's still the same09:59
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mmport81hmm hmm09:59
kyr0mmport81: dont know... i'm waiting for hurd *smile09:59
sambagirlthis is like the handicapped thing HUGE like, see?09:59
LjLwell, if you restart X-Windows, you'll have KDM showing up instead of GDM... and, there, i'm sure there is a "Session" button wher eyou can chose KDE09:59
mmport81sambagirl: restart, is prob easiest10:00
mmport81sambagirl: or you can logoff, but you will still see gdm10:00
sambagirli still see that foot10:00
sambagirlok brb10:00
mmport81yeh - you will see it10:00
mmport81until you logoff or restart10:00
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sambagirlhow can i shut it down, i cannot see it now10:01
sambagirlbecazuse of this huge thing on the side10:01
LjLsambagirl: have you ever used a text-mode console?10:02
mmport81press ctrl-alt-del - should shut you down - or guys is that right?10:02
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chironKDE system guard just shows a bunch of random numbers10:03
chironand I can't unmount my network drive10:03
LjLmmport81: in KDE, that does show a logout dialog10:03
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chironwhat the hell is going on?10:03
mmport81or you can just press the off switch on your comp10:03
kyr0wow, fine, kubuntu is the first distribution with a stable amarok version =)10:03
mmport81- not all that dangerous in linux - compared to windows10:04
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LjLsambagirl: you can  1) press ctrl+alt+f1, and that will get you to text-mode  2) type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" , and that will close X   3) type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start", and that should reload X with KDM10:04
LjLsambagirl: but note that after step 2, you won't be connected to IRC or have a graphics environment anymore, until step 310:04
mmport81(to get back to graphical mode ctrl-alt-f7)10:04
gdhLjL: If gdm is set as the default login manager, starting kdm's init.d script will only display 'kdm is not the default login manager' or similar.10:05
LjLgdh: i think she's done dpkg-reconfigure kdm10:05
gdhit's easiest to do apt-get remove gdm ... then kdm will become the default10:05
gdhah cool10:05
mmport81yeh she has - 10:05
gdhI only just sat down :)10:05
LjLyeah, uninstalling gdm could also be an easy option, anyway10:05
mmport81yeh true10:05
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mmport81sambagirl: sudo apt-get remove gdm10:06
gdh"* sambagirl has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))"10:06
LjLyep :)10:06
mmport81looks like she did something anyway :)10:06
LjLs'pose so10:07
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mmport81anyway, what do you guys think about novell?10:07
LjLknow zilch bout it10:07
mmport81in a way i think it make focus kde minds10:07
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mmport81i've been using kde for 3 years, and konq still confuses the shit out of me10:08
gdhNovell are a business - it is stupid to split effort on two projects trying to achieve the same goal.10:08
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ubuntublueyed: Wie war noch der Channel?10:08
mmport81yeh true10:08
sambagirlsame problem10:08
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mmport81ok wait10:08
sambagirlcan i send the snapshot to someoen to look at to help me?10:08
mmport81yeh sure10:08
LjLnot to me, i cannot take DCCs10:08
gdhdoes kubuntu.pastebin.com take binaries?10:09
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sambagirlok maybe mmport can explain what is my problem.10:09
sambagirlit's waiting form you mmport8110:10
mmport81do this10:10
mmport81sudo apt-get remove gdm10:10
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sambagirllook at picture first please10:11
sambagirltype sudo apt-get remove gdm10:11
mmport81i can't see it10:11
mmport81yep in console10:11
v-dogghow can I configure Win-key to open K Menu? 10:11
sambagirlsee now?10:12
LjLv-dogg: hmm settings, regional and accessibility, hotkeys10:12
LjLi think10:12
LjLv-dogg: no, sorry, that's wrong10:12
mmport81kcontrol > regional & accessability > khotkeys10:13
mmport81sambagirl: no i couldn't receive the pic10:13
LjLv-dogg: settings, regional and accessibility, keyboard shortcuts10:13
LjLmmport81: he can probably do it that way too, but it's uselessly complicated10:14
mmport81sambagirl: jut follow my instruction10:14
mmport81LjL: apt-get remove gdm complicated?10:14
LjLv-dogg: in there, just change the "popup launch menu" key10:14
LjLmmport81: no, i was talking about the menu hotkey10:14
mmport81LjL: she already installed kdm, removing gdm shouldn't be tricky10:14
mmport81oh right sorry10:14
sambagirlok it is uninstalling 10:15
LjLgotta go, cya10:15
sambagirlok it's gone10:15
mmport81listen carefully10:15
v-doggwhere can I find settings :)10:15
mmport81after you reboot10:15
mmport81b4 you login10:15
mmport81you have to look for a session menu10:16
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v-doggroger, thanks10:16
mmport81hold will have a look at mine, to b sure10:16
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mmport81sambagirl: ok, you have to click on the "session type" menu10:17
mmport81sambagirl: and slect "kde", *b4* you login10:17
mmport81session type > kde10:17
sambagirlthat is it?10:17
mmport81good luck :)10:17
mmport81yeh should be10:17
Riddellmmport81: if she doesn't came back we're holding you responsible :)10:18
mmport81hehehe :)10:18
mmport81if she does - one more recruit for me ;)10:19
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Knowerrorscan anybody help me get mp3 support going?  I already have w32codecs installed and tried both kaffiene and amarok, nada10:21
Glin|JolWinamp not Running10:22
uboturumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)10:22
RiddellGlin|Jol: are you a bot?10:22
mmport81Knowerrors: have you tried: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s10:22
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Knowerrorsno, will look at both, thx10:23
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gdhRiddell: amen, and we didn't give a shit what it was listening to anyway :)10:23
Riddellgdh: watch your language boy, (I have ops!)10:24
Knowerrorsmmport81: already followed that10:25
mmport81didn't work?10:25
gdhIt's at least after the watershed in the UK :)10:25
mmport81follow the link they other guys suggested10:25
Knowerrorsyeah, I already did both of those things, didn't help :(10:26
mmport81hmmm hmmm10:26
mmport81i've done mine so long ago can't remember10:27
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Knowerrors** Message: could not link audio/x-raw-int, endianness=(int)1234, signed=(boolean)true, width=(int)16, depth=(int)16, rate=(int)44100, channels=(int)210:29
Knowerrorsthats what kaffeine gives me when I try to play mp310:29
mmport81try amarok10:30
mmport81(best music player anyways)10:30
gdhor dare I say it, beep-media-player  ? It plays music files and doesn't try to be a 'media library' :)10:30
mmport81gdh: have u given amarok a good go - it is Amaaazing...10:31
gdhI use GNOME these days - I just like this channel :)10:31
gdh(I did, and I was unimpressed)10:31
Knowerrorsamarok no good either10:32
mmport81i like it over itunes and anything else - just packed full of good ideas10:32
Knowerrorsplus worn't let me read the error10:32
LeeJunFanKnowerrors: the only way I've had good luck with amarok or kaffeine is to use the xine engine.10:33
murtaughis there anyone who can help me with a simple driver patch question?10:33
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mmport81murtaugh: you can ask - can't promise10:34
murtaughthanks mmport81, I'm patching my aircard and using this page http://www.junxion.com/opensource/linux_highspeed_usbserial.html10:34
KnowerrorsLeeJunFan: how do I change to xine engine from gstreamer?10:34
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murtaughi've got it patched and im about ready to recompile but I just need to know if I have to "compile the module" after patching10:35
sambagirlmm wow this is different.10:35
sambagirlthis much diffferent from gnome10:35
mmport81 sambagirl: cool your back?? - good eh, welcome to KDE :):)10:35
mmport81 murtaugh: hold on...10:36
sambagirlwow i had no idea10:36
sambagirlbrb cooking10:36
murtaughwill do10:36
sambagirlwow this is so differeeent from gnome10:36
oshwhat's the name of the codecs I need to be able to play my vobs? and all the other media files I get.10:36
mmport81 murtaugh: you patched the kernel?10:36
v-doggI still can't find where to set K Menu to windows key...10:36
Juerdv-dogg: Why do you want that?10:37
Juerdv-dogg: Having a hard time adjusting?10:37
murtaughyeah i just patched usb-serial.c10:37
Juerdv-dogg: KDE has ALT+F1 for this, if you think you can get used to something new.10:37
mmport81murtaugh: if u have, then u should just have to select to module in menuconfig10:37
JuerdIf getting used to new stuff is a problem, then perhaps it's better to stick to what you had, and not migrate to better software like Kubuntu...10:38
mmport81and it should all compile for you10:38
v-doggJuerd: me - maybe, my wife - never :)10:38
murtaughoh alright, so is the other piece from that page "compiling the module" for another purpose?10:38
KnowerrorsLeeJunFan: how do I view amarok/gstreamer errors, becuase it gives me one which goes away fast10:39
murtaughmmport81 this is my first kernel patch so im at this10:39
Juerdv-dogg: Consider dual booting. That keeps people a hell of a lot happier than forced migration against their wishes.10:39
oshJuerd: The question is valid though. Nevermind if it's good or bad to do it but how to do it is interesting. Right now it's just a dead key on the keyboard.10:39
v-doggbut now I have one key completely obsolete10:39
LeeJunFanKnowerrors: I dunno - perhaps if you run it from the command line?10:39
Juerdv-dogg: Otherwise, I hope your marriage is strong :)10:39
mmport81murtaugh: hold on...10:39
v-doggit's sad10:39
LeeJunFanKnowerrors: I gave up gstreamer=gSTEAMER10:39
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v-doggthe key I mean, keys need to be touched :)10:39
Juerdosh: Oh, the question is a good one, certainly. I'm not judging.10:39
mmport81 murtaugh: i can't remember, one more second...10:40
JuerdI have no Windows keys, so I do not care.10:40
murtaughmmport81, thanks10:40
oshv-dogg: If you find out, feel free to tell me. I could find some uses for that key.10:40
v-doggJuerd: I can't ditch Windows for several reasons and I'll always have dual boot10:40
mmport81 murtaugh: are you compiling the whole kernel from scratch?10:40
murtaughmmport81, yep, ive successfully done it once today so im confident there10:41
v-doggbut alt+f1 works too, thanks10:41
kyr0hmm... kubuntu portage tree needs f4l (flash 4 linux) - that are flash development tools like Flash Editor (KDE/Qt Frontend like Macromedia Flash) and a free flash compiler. Eclipse Flash 4 Linux extension is also avaiable10:41
Juerdv-dogg: And to preempt on your next question, win+r maps to alt+f2 ;)10:41
mmport81murtaugh: did you select that particular part of the kernel 2b installed as a module? (guess you did)10:41
v-doggJuerd: haha, never used that one :)10:42
Juerdv-dogg: It's a huge time saver once you learn some commands.10:42
v-doggbut what about Win+E (explorer)?10:42
JuerdIn any OS10:42
murtaughmmport81, my goal is to recompile with that patch so i can use my aircard. I found that page and im wondering if compiling the module would be used if you are not completely recompiling the kernel10:43
murtaughmmport81, but since i just patched usb-serial.c I think i can just run menu config and go from there10:43
Juerdv-dogg: There is no hotkey for that by defualt. You can assign one to Konqueror, if you want.10:43
oshI seem to get an error I haven't seen in a while. It's "kaffeine" that won't die, but instead stays at 90% cpu. This was an issue about 1yrs ago and then I think I had to download someones patched version. Anyone know what to do about it.10:43
mmport81 murtaugh: you can compile the module for your system without compiling the whole kernel10:43
v-doggI need to go to bed... I just tried what Alt+f4 does :D10:44
v-doggmagic I tell you10:44
Juerdv-dogg: More or less the same as in Windows ;)10:44
KnowerrorsLeeJunFan: how do I change to xine engine from gsteamer?10:44
mmport81 murtaugh: however, just use "make modules" after make menuconfig10:44
murtaughmmport81, so is that page just giving me two options? a module and a kernel patch?10:44
murtaughmmport81, I think i've got it, I'll see if i can figure this out and come back if i get stumped :)  thanks for your time!10:45
mmport81 murtaugh: it seems it only give the patch option10:45
mmport81 murtaugh: hope i haven't confused you :)10:45
KnowerrorsLeeJunFan: nevermind, found the pack10:45
mmport81 murtaugh: u seem to be on the right track10:45
LeeJunFanKnowerrors: install libxine then open kaffeine and go to settings, player engine, and choose the one that just says kaffeine. In amarok you basically do the same thing.10:45
murtaughmmport81, confusion with Linux?!!? never!10:46
mmport81heheh :)10:46
mmport81chaos more like ;)10:46
murtaugh*controlled chaos10:46
v-doggnothing like Windows10:46
Knowerrorsbb after new kernel boot :)10:47
v-doggyou have to boot to install new kernel :o10:47
v-doggI never boot my windows10:47
v-doggit does it for me!10:48
oshWhat's the name of the multimedia codecs in kubuntu? I can't play my media files.10:49
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kyr0hmm, java: should i use blackdown jre or orginal sun jre?10:51
mmport81much of a muchness, but i use sun - risk averse...10:52
oshkyr0: you an idealogist? use blackdown. not? use sun jre.10:53
propagandhikyr0: I'd say the original, but it depends on what you're doing with it10:53
mmport81belive u can download the sun  packages here: deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java10:53
mmport81(apt source...)10:53
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kyr0propagandhi: need it for learning development in java 10:53
propagandhikyr0: go the sun way in that case10:54
kyr0propagandhi: so i need a sun compatible jre...10:54
mmport81 kyr0: ideologists would use kaffe ;)10:54
mmport81kyr0: the apt source up there has sdk too10:54
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kyr0mmport81: thx ;)10:55
kyr0btw: adept is great10:55
v-dogghmm.. one more shortcut: Win-D?10:55
mmport81oh i have a java q - java applets have stopped working after upgrading to breezy10:55
v-doggshow desktop10:55
SpudULikeHow do I figure out the device name of my usb printer?  I want to use the escputil tool.10:55
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drolykHi All :)10:57
propagandhimmport81: and have u tried the java packages throught the RestrictedFormats method10:58
mmport81no - what's that?10:58
ubotuI guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs10:58
propagandhilook at the wiki10:58
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/10:58
kyr0ahh libdvdcss10:59
mmport81propagandhi : i used to do something like that in debian, but lets face it apt source trumps anything else :)11:00
thmasguys, can anyone help me? i try to save data on a dvd. the data is from a ntfs-partition. i got: Incorrectly encoded string (Bhne.JPG) encountered. Incorrectly encoded string (Bhne.JPG) encountered.11:00
oshthe w32codecs aren't in backports?11:00
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propagandhimmport81: i'd have to say in the case of java it doenst11:02
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mmport81i get the sun sdk jre with apt get11:03
propagandhiIMHO it just doesnt work as reliably 11:03
judithhow can I type the EURO sysmbol in kubuntu?11:03
propagandhimmport81: but i havent had any issues when using that method11:03
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mmport81propagandhi: really? i assume they package debs using ur method11:03
mmport81so doubt there's much difference11:04
propagandhimmport81: perhaps they do, perhaps they dont11:04
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thmasosh: what's backports?11:04
mmport81propagandhi: just convenient11:04
oshthmas: one of the sources in /etc/apt/sources.list11:04
propagandhimmport81: convenience is always good, but a little effort can go a long way to be mary-poppins-ish11:05
thmasi m with a kubuntu live cd online11:05
mmport81thmas: good for u!11:05
thmascause windows kickt one of my partitions11:05
v-doggthere's a kubuntu live cd?11:06
mmport81propagandhi: hehehe - considering gentoo are we ? :)11:06
francolqhello... is there any internet connection sharing configuration tool for kubuntu?11:06
thmasi would save ist now on a dvd but it doesen't work11:06
propagandhimmport81: no not going that far, been there done that11:06
thmassure v-dogg 11:06
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pr0tocolhey all11:07
pr0tocolhow's everyone doing on this cold freakin' day...11:07
propagandhipr0tocol: cold for you maybe11:07
pr0tocolpropagandhi, indeed it is11:07
pr0tocolI'm wondering if any of you are using Baghira...11:08
propagandhipr0tocol: hot for me11:08
mmport81Baghira? no? problem?11:08
pr0tocolpropagandhi, are you using Baghira?  'cause I'm havin' an issue installing the 'patch' for Milkesque11:08
propagandhipr0tocol: isnt baghira a theme11:08
pr0tocolI compiled baghira 0.7 from source, btw11:09
pr0tocolpropagandhi, yea11:09
thmasHow to mount with utf8 ?11:09
propagandhipr0tocol: ok, so what problem are you having installing the patch11:09
pr0tocolpropagandhi, well, I installed the patch as directed in the readme.  Problem is...I don't see anything that has to do WITH the Milkesque patch11:10
pr0tocolBaghira is just...baghira...11:10
propagandhipr0tocol: so what are you meant to see - is this on kde-look or something11:11
pr0tocolthere it is11:11
mmport81that is SWEET :)11:11
mmport81damn i need that now...11:12
pr0tocolit gives me cavities just looking at it dude11:12
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pr0tocolany takers on solving the problem?11:12
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mmport81gtg soon...11:13
propagandhipr0tocol: in the screenshot i cant see any differing options, has the style changed at all, and have you rebooted/restarted kde11:13
thmasguy, tell me please how to unmount and mount with utf811:13
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propagandhipr0tocol: it says its meant to replace the aqua style11:14
pr0tocolpropagandhi, yup... I have11:14
propagandhiso using the aqua style should be the new changes?11:14
pr0tocolpropagandhi, yea it's meant to do so..but hasn't done anything11:14
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pr0tocolpropagandhi, generally speaking, I think the .baghira file is the one that changes the Aqua style to look that way11:15
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propagandhipr0tocol: ok, i'm gonna compile baghira and do the patch myself to see11:16
pr0tocolbut in terms of the win deco and everything else...nope11:16
pr0tocolokee dokee11:16
mmport81cu guys11:17
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thmaspr0tocol: how to mount with utf8? 11:20
pr0tocolpropagandhi, I wasn't able to run 'make' in sthe baghira/style folder before...now I'm able to...but I get an error11:20
propagandhiwhats the error11:20
pr0tocolthmas, huh?11:20
pr0tocolmake: *** [baghira_la.all_cpp.lo]  Error 111:21
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thmasdo u know that? i have to mount a filesystem with utf811:21
pr0tocolthmas, you tried googling?11:21
pr0tocol!google mounting utf811:21
ubotupr0tocol: Did you get hit by a windmill?11:21
pr0tocolubotu, I live in an urban area...windmill's are obsolete here. :P11:22
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, pr0tocol11:22
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:22
propagandhithmas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/438211:23
pr0tocolhm... was just checking if this chan had a google function11:23
v-doggdoes linux have some sort of hibernation feature (like windows)?11:24
propagandhiv-dogg: yes11:24
propagandhibut it doesnt work under all circumstances11:25
propagandhiworks for me though11:25
pr0tocolthmas, btw, do you have an entry for it in your fstab?11:25
v-dogghow do I hibernate Kubuntu?11:25
thmasi have no idea11:25
thmasi am on kubuntu (even linux) for the second time11:25
pr0tocolthmas, open /etc/fstab11:26
thmasthe problem is11:26
thmasi am on kubuntu live cd11:27
pr0tocolthmas, ok...kubuntu live should have a fstab11:27
thmasmount with utf8 dosen't work11:28
pr0tocolthmas, it not going to work if you're just doing 'mount utf8' if there is no entry for it in the fstab11:28
pr0tocolyou have to make sure that fstab is using it...if not, you're going to have to make an entry for it yourself11:29
propagandhithmas: you are passing the iocharset=utf8 ??11:29
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thmasjust -o utf811:30
pyroxxhi 11:30
pyroxxi am new11:30
propagandhithmas: try -iocharset=utf811:30
pyroxxhow can i get kubuntu11:30
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/11:30
pr0tocolpyroxx, you can download the iso and install it, or request for a cd, I believe11:31
propagandhipyroxx: if u already have ubuntu, just apt-get kubuntu-desktop11:31
pyroxxhow about media players11:32
pr0tocolpropagandhi, lol you're going to compile baghira eh?11:32
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pr0tocolpyroxx, there are tons11:32
pyroxxhow can i get11:32
pyroxxwhich one is the best11:33
pr0tocolpyroxx, it's all preference11:33
pr0tocolI like mplayer11:33
pyroxxwell give me something usefull11:33
pr0tocoland VLC media player, as well.  Some people might prefer Xine, Totem, etc11:33
thmasdo u know how to unmount ?11:33
pr0tocolpyroxx, download mplayer and vlc11:33
propagandhipr0tocol: done that part, applying the patch now11:34
pr0tocolthmas, umount 11:34
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pyroxxhow can i download them?11:34
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thmasunmount /mnt/folder doesent work11:34
pr0tocolpyroxx, sudo apt-get install name_of_program11:34
oshpr0tocol: except mplayer isn't in the repos.11:35
pr0tocolthmas, not unmount, umount.  Without the N11:35
pr0tocolosh, unless you add a backport11:35
pr0tocolpyroxx, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#security    <---that will get you started on a lot of things11:36
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thmaspr0tocol: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda6, - got that error11:36
kyr0hmm, which name has the java runtime environment variable11:36
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pr0tocolkyr0, ?11:37
pr0tocolthmas, hmm...11:37
propagandhithmas: exactly what is the full command you're using to mount the partition11:38
thmasmount -r /dev/hda6 /mnt/daten -iocharset=utf8       11:38
kyr0hmm $JAVA_PATH or... damn it11:38
propagandhikyr0: try the update-alternatives command listed on 11:38
uboturestricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs11:39
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propagandhithmas: and what filesystem is on the partition - ntfs?11:39
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propagandhiso it would be mount -t ntfs11:39
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thmasmount -r -t ntfs /dev/hda6 /mnt/daten 11:40
SgepIs klik ok with Kubuntu?11:40
propagandhithmas: you should look at11:40
thmasor without r11:40
ubotuwell, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:40
pr0tocolSgep, do you have the source?11:40
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SgepSource-code or website?11:41
os2macOK, so I have a firefox icon in my Kicker bar... and everytime I click on it to open firefox I get the error: KDEinit could not start firefox.... but firefox starts correctly...11:41
pr0tocolSgep, you tried apt-get?11:41
pipitas_2Sgep: if you want a biased answer, ask in #klik11:41
propagandhipr0tocol: where is the baghira folder to apply the patch11:42
pr0tocolpropagandhi, the /deco/pixmaps.h  goes into the baghira/deco folder, and the /style/pixmaps.h goes into the baghira/style folder.  After that, you go into both folders (baghira/deco  & baghira/style) and run make and make install11:43
pr0tocolSgep, why use klik to download software when you have apt?11:45
pr0tocolor synaptic, for that matter?11:45
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propagandhipr0tocol: same issue here11:47
propagandhicant make after putting patch in11:48
pr0tocolheh restart kde and retry11:48
pr0tocolpropagandhi, in the deco folder all I did was 'make install'11:48
pr0tocolsince make couldn't be done11:48
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Sgephi _buz 11:52
_buzare there any sound fx plugins for amarok? to add stuff like hall or 3d sound fx?11:52
pr0tocolpropagandhi, any luck?11:56
propagandhipr0tocol: i'm gonna restart it now, brb11:58
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dell500anyone know how to check to see if 3d accel is workin in console?11:58
pr0tocolit USED to read fps12:00
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kdudehello.. can somebody help me with samba PDC configuration?12:01
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dell500pr0tocol, ya, i noticed taht12:02
dell500pr0tocol, isn't there a way to read a config file or something to tell if it's on or not12:02
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dell500it seems ot be on though, which is awesome12:02
pr0tocola config file to tell you the fps?12:03

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