[12:03] sistpoty: a comma separated list would be fine [12:04] slomo: since we nevertheless need to look manually in EACH of the packages ever processed by MOM, which is a %$^% huge list :) [12:04] sivang: it gets us all packages which needs to be looked at and a machine merged version which _maybe_ can be uploaded [12:04] sistpoty: I need a list like "1234@bugs.launchpad.net, 1235@bugs.launchpad.net, 12345@...." and so on [12:04] slomo: ah , hehe I get it now :) [12:05] sivang: MoM is providing patches and debdiffs. I find that very useful, because I dont need to download all 3 source package and create the diffs for myself! [12:05] sivang: in some (in fact few) cases, the mom merge is useful for uploading [12:05] siretart: ah right, I haven't given thought for that work that we would have needed to do in case we didn't have MOM [12:06] siretart: i could give you a partial list right now... but i would prefer to update my db first, and then generate a complete list for you [12:06] sistpoty: that would be fine for me [12:07] sistpoty: I think email would be the easiest for you to send it to me [12:07] siretart: ok, so just take one of the packages in one of the a,b,c....{n} lists , open a bug about it that I'm working on it, and put it in the wiki page \sh wrote so nobody stepps on my feet? [12:07] siretart: I'll make you a threeliner python-script and mail you where you can find it on tiber ;) [12:08] sivang: we are currently busily working on scripts to file merge bugs from the command line [12:08] sivang: atm I'm reviewing \sh's code and merge that into my branch [12:08] I will announce here when I pushed that merge to http://tiber.tauware.de/~siretart/motu-tools [12:08] sistpoty: w00t. you are my hero! :) [12:09] <\sh> siretart: it's not finished now...found a bug already [12:09] siretart: if you need someone more to test that scripts, I can do that now [12:09] <\sh> siretart: check only if it's good enough to be published [12:09] \sh: I see that you created a new script. is lpbugs.py intended to replace newmerge.py or accompany? [12:10] sivang: just a sek [12:10] <\sh> siretart: it should replace newmerge.py (it's a bit cleaner I think) but it will be the first step towards a reportbugs replacement [12:10] damn... while we are busy writing scripts, slomo is busy with merging *g* [12:11] \sh: okay [12:11] siretart: no prob, I don't want to distrub. If it's just better that I waited for the scripts to be ready, then I'll come again tomorrow and try to better help.. [12:11] <\sh> sistpoty: which is ok..because I wanted to do more real coding work for this cycle [12:11] \sh: newmerge was just a small hack anyway [12:11] *g* [12:11] sistpoty: partially... i picked some packages on which i'll work tomorrow :) [12:11] <\sh> siretart: but a good one...now have a look on lpbugs... [12:11] sivang: you can still grab a package from this list: http://tiber.tauware.de/~sistpoty/MoM/index.py?state=new === anavim [n=adamw@nat1.supportsoft.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:12] sivang: and file a bug as described on MOTUToMerge. We can reassign later if there is something wrong [12:13] siretart: how does that page knows if I took a package? [12:13] ok... took some packages and now it's time to sleep :) expect some uploads tomorrow... and thanks for these great scripts =) [12:13] gn8 everybody :) [12:14] sivang: it checks the mailing list universe-bugs. just be sure to title your bug correctly [12:14] <\sh> slomo: good night and thx for the merges :) [12:14] slomo: good night, good work man! [12:14] gn8 sladen [12:14] sladen? ;) [12:14] slomo even [12:15] *G* [12:15] \sh: if I read correctly, lpbugs.py is a refactored newmerge.py without request for sync and sponsorship, right? [12:15] <\sh> siretart: no...it's a start [12:16] <\sh> siretart: new bugs don't need sync or sponsor...because we have to file bugs first, then check if it's a merge or a sync... [12:16] <\sh> siretart: so only with the update bugs options we need sync and sponsor...which I write now [12:16] siretart: me? Surely you know that I never sleep ;-) [12:17] \sh: aaah. this is a bit different workflow to what I have in mind, but you are completly right [12:17] sladen: hrrh [12:17] <\sh> siretart: thats what I wanted to say last night.. [12:17] sladen: how was your flight home? [12:17] \sh: ah, okay [12:17] <\sh> siretart: before we start actually merging or syncing we have to file bugs...so that everyone know what you are working on [12:18] siretart: what flight home. I'm still in Montreal :) [12:18] sladen: you are? crazy guy! :) [12:18] sladen: how's the party? [12:18] siretart: just wrapping up. [12:18] <\sh> siretart: ogra told me, that nobody knows, why sladen flys all the time after the conferences :) [12:18] \sh: you are completly right [12:18] <\sh> after behind whatevert [12:18] I see all your bugs [12:19] seems like the bug reporting script can be merged ? :) [12:19] \sh: okay. what are you working on right now? [12:19] \sh: no point going somewhere and not seeing the continent [12:19] <\sh> siretart: update bugs and close bugs [12:19] sladen: true :) [12:20] sladen: have you stayed for the launchpad week in whole? [12:20] <\sh> siretart: i think the biggest improvement is: it works now without a running mailserver...u need only a smtp relay server with or without smtp auth [12:20] <\sh> siretart: or u need a sendmail mta :) which is also working [12:20] \sh: I've seen that. great work! [12:20] <\sh> siretart: and I cleaned up a bit...and try to use methods to reuse [12:21] \sh: ok, so I'll work on madison-lite on tiber until you commit your changes to update bugs [12:21] <\sh> madison-lite? [12:21] <\sh> sounds interessting === anavim [n=adamw@nat1.supportsoft.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:22] \sh: thats a small tool which gives an overview what version of a given package is in all distributions [12:23] <\sh> siretart: refining ajmitches scripts? [12:24] siretart, \sh: /home/sistpoty/merge_offline/update_status.py on tiber can be used to erm update the status... if anything is wrong :) [12:24] \sh: no, madison-lite is already in debian, but it is intended to work just on debian distributions [12:24] \sh: I [12:24] \sh: I'm hacking a bit to get that usable for ubuntu [12:25] <\sh> siretart: great :) [12:28] <\sh> hmmm... [12:29] <\sh> i need one feature...which means.i have to deal with urllib [12:34] \sh: better defer great features [12:34] \sh: we need something usable quick, sivang is waiting for work ;) [12:37] <\sh> siretart: it doesn't take long to implement [12:37] <\sh> siretart: but if i have this feature working...this would be awesome :) [12:38] Where did elmo go? [12:38] Haven't seen him in a while, need to get some packages removed from the repository ;) === Jimbob [n=jcape@c-67-173-146-239.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] \sh: :) === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@d-ip-129-15-214-144.wireless.ou.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] night all === anavim [n=adamw@nat1.supportsoft.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger [n=hunger@p54A604D0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === anavim [n=adamw@nat1.supportsoft.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] anavim: pong === spstarr_home [n=sh0n@CPEdeadbeef0000-CM000039d4cc6a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === anavim [n=adamw@nat1.supportsoft.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] crimsun, is there an ubuntu page about kernel dev volunteering? [01:37] what package are the X11 development files in [01:37] xlibs-dev? [01:39] Kyral: should be... or let's say xlibs-dev depends on the actual devel-packages (these are also split into several subpackages) [01:39] yah, just needed the dev files. Guy on the Forums needed to know the package [01:40] then this looks like xlibs-dev ;) [01:41] anavim: yeah, it's in the topic for that channel [01:42] crimsun, oops [01:42] Lathiat: ping [01:42] tseng: pong [01:43] service discovery applet [01:43] ya? [01:43] if i share a thingy with gnome user share, i see it [01:43] if i click it.. is something supposed to happen? [01:43] or is it just for show [01:43] it should open up some app [01:43] so if its http nautilus [01:43] err firefox [01:43] it does not. [01:43] webdav probably nautilus [01:43] hrm [01:43] weird [01:44] thees a config thign, might be abel to set some application to handle it [01:44] not obviously. [01:45] ok. /me needs sleep. urgently. [01:45] good night, see you tomorrow! [01:45] gn8 siretart === Jimbob [n=jcape@c-67-173-146-239.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:56] <\sh> siretart: please merge again from ~shermann/motu-tools bugfix in close action [02:03] grr... why does aria not show up on "Done merges" [02:04] <\sh> yes [02:04] <\sh> why not because it's not fixed [02:04] <\sh> i send now the correct mail and it's not fixed [02:05] hmm, what should I do if a merge is done but not shown on the status page? [02:05] hm... but it should have been, at least temporarily [02:05] minghua: tell me ;) [02:05] the package in question is zhcon, crimsun has done the merge already [02:05] sistpoty: there you go [02:05] minghua: thx. will update the status === whiprush_ [n=jorge@64.62.190.212] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] <\sh> damn [02:06] <\sh> i see the error === Jimbob_ [n=jcape@c-67-175-222-235.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] minghua: is there a LP bug report for it? [02:06] <\sh> but [02:07] crimsun: are you looking at my merge stuff? [02:07] <\sh> it's not different from the old version [02:07] sistpoty: let me check... I just looked at the packages.u.c pages [02:08] sistpoty: yes, 4021, but at PendingUpload status [02:09] <\sh> blame me [02:09] <\sh> it was my fault [02:09] minghua: thx... i just updated... is now under "Accepted" (it's only fixed, once the bug is closed) [02:09] why \sh [02:10] <\sh> \n\n missing after the subject [02:10] <\sh> i have to generate the mail header manually [02:10] args... can't you use some python-lib? [02:10] LaserJock: url? [02:11] <\sh> sistpoty: smtplib from python :) [02:11] <\sh> fixed now [02:11] sistpoty: good enough for me, as long as other people don't waste time on it :-) [02:11] hehe [02:11] crimsun: xchm [02:11] LaserJock: hmm, I already merged it [02:11] crimsun: please close your malone bug #4021 about zhcon :-) [02:11] Malone bug #4021: zhcon: Merge new Debian version Fix req. for: zhcon (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU, Status: PendingUpload http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4021 [02:12] crimsun: lol, I did that yesterday [02:12] minghua: yeah, I'm going back through them and closing them after Jeff's talk [02:13] LaserJock: sorry for the effort duplication, I'll go ahead and update my merges now [02:14] crimsun: np, just thought you were looking at my stuff. BTW, xchm is bug #4086 [02:14] Malone bug #4086: xchm: merge new debian version Fix req. for: xchm (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU, Status: PendingUpload http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4086 [02:14] whoa... bug bot? [02:15] that's nice. [02:16] <\sh> sistpoty: now try again with aria [02:16] <\sh> works [02:16] <\sh> sistpoty: the rocking german motu team :) [02:17] hehe [02:17] <\sh> because of two bloody \n\n [02:18] (to be successful as an MOTU, you must prefix everything with rocking) :P [02:18] rockingly sure, schweeb ;) [02:18] <\sh> rocking right [02:19] I was writing that down on my memo pad for future reference ;) [02:19] hehe [02:19] \sh: are we still filing Malone bugs for merges/syncs? [02:20] (due to the maintainer spammage) [02:20] crimsun: we do... the maintainers aren't spammed, we checked that with lp-team [02:20] sistpoty: ok, thanks. [02:21] crimsun: and please use s.th. "merge new debian version" as bug title ;) [02:21] s.th. which contains that ;) [02:22] crimsun: I did xcdroast too === anavim [n=adamw@nat1.supportsoft.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:25] sistpoty: have been (except that I've used "Sync new Debian version" if a sync is necessary) [02:25] LaserJock: yeah, I just saw [02:26] crimsun: cool... it's only because this exact string is matched to update status :) [02:27] crimsun: and otherwise i have to do it by hand :( [02:27] sistpoty: should I go back and change "Sync" to "Merge"? [02:27] crimsun: lower-case please... if you can retitle the bug, that will help... but actually if you do from now on this will be fine [02:27] sure === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:28] (the updating stuff actually works only for ~3 hours... so I can't blame anybody for not knowing the future *g*) [02:31] wow. the reassign worked... I'm still amazed myself *g* [02:33] crimsun: should those be marked fixed yet, they haven't been through the build [02:35] LaserJock: technically no, but I've built on all three platforms to verify. === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:35] LaserJock: so it's really a matter of time [02:35] ok, cool [02:42] <\sh> sistpoty: i updated the README file === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-47-165.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:44] cool \sh (rocks *g*) [02:44] battery's dead, back later [02:44] cya crimsun [02:45] ' \sh i could use your help on bzr, do you mind? [02:46] <\sh> hehe.. [02:46] <\sh> sure [02:46] -> query [02:46] <\sh> I wrote just the best motu announcement ever :) [02:52] it is indeed [02:52] i think your readme is wrong [02:52] bzr export http://tiber.tauware.de/~shermann/motu-tools/ [02:52] do you mean bzr branch [02:52] or get [02:54] <\sh> no i mean export [02:55] ok [02:55] <\sh> which doesn't work [02:57] ' \sh: MoM will be pleased, i guess ;) === alg [n=alg@200-208-63-106-mns.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:57] <\sh> fixed the announcement === zakame [n=zak@210.213.80.228] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:00] hello all [03:00] <\sh> keybuk will kill me...that the MOTUs will satisfy his mom [03:00] <\sh> hehehe [03:01] \sh: just read the mail at -devel, wtg MOTUs! :) [03:01] zakame: got my mail regarding merges? [03:02] sistpoty: just got it too, thanks for the info :) [03:02] sistpoty: shall I change the bug titles now? [03:02] zakame: ok, cool :) [03:02] <\sh> zakame: use the motu-tools now.. [03:03] ok [03:03] zakame: if you could do this, it would be great ;) [03:03] <\sh> zakame: but use bzr branch http://tiber.tauware.de/~shermann/motu-tools [03:03] <\sh> not the export option..it doesn't work :( [03:03] <\sh> I fixed already the announcement [03:04] ok, will do :) [03:04] zakame: thanks very much... and keep up with your good work on the merge ;) === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] sistpoty: I will :) thank you very much indeed too :) [03:05] <\sh> ok...last smoking bof for now [03:05] good idea \sh :) [03:07] <\sh> yes it is [03:07] <\sh> cause I can't see anything anymore [03:08] <\sh> sistpoty: btw...do u have an imap account on tiber? [03:09] <\sh> sistpoty: or how do u grab the mails ? [03:09] wb slomo_ :) [03:14] <\sh> ok..time to go to bed [03:14] ' \sh: not an imap account... just take a look at my .forward file [03:14] <\sh> ah [03:15] siretart told me that procmail rules might be even better... but i only know exim-filter stuff *G* [03:16] gn8 \sh [03:16] dreams \sh [03:17] <\sh> sistpoty: well..even exim filter stuff is unknown to me..i'm using sieve === edoardo [n=edoardo@213-140-21-235.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:17] hi gals, hi dudes : ) [03:17] <\sh> ok...tomorrow I'm at ogras place again :) [03:17] hehe [03:17] you guys, i'm the author of an audio conversion script named audio-convert. you might have read about it in the ubuntu forums. anyway, it's becomin' really popular lately. would anyone help me make a .deb? it's two files only, so it's probably not that hard. anyone? thankyou! : ) === \sh doesn't use the forums [03:18] edoardo: just two files? [03:18] well it's a script [03:19] it's one file in fact [03:19] plus the installer [03:19] then it's two files : ) [03:19] it works *really* well, and it's got progress bars, too. and it can convert many files at once into almost any format [03:20] edoardo: I'm a little bit tired right now, and still have a few things in my queue... if you ping me tomorrow, I can help you with this (or review the package, if s.o. else will make one) [03:20] sistpoty, yeah, goin' to bed too. was just throwin' the idea in : ) [03:20] <\sh> edoardo: please add it to the wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates page with a pointer where we can grab it [03:20] eh, what does MoM stand for again? [03:21] zakame: Moments of merge, i think [03:21] sistpoty, what gmt time can i find you tomorrow? [03:21] edoardo: probably after 22:00 ;) [03:21] Merge-O-Matic [03:22] sistpoty: ah [03:22] heh. I was going to ask exactly the same thing [03:22] LaserJock: ah [03:23] what's universe? i'm not an ubuntu user. but many ubuntu users have asked me if i could make a .deb. and your distro sounds nice : ) [03:23] it's like 'world' in gentoo? [03:23] or like 'portage' in gentoo? [03:24] 'universe' is all the free packages which aren't officially supported [03:24] can one apt-get'em? [03:24] <\sh> edoardo: no...don [03:24] <\sh> ' [03:24] actually everything in debian/unstable, that is not officially supported [03:24] <\sh> t compare it with gentoo [03:25] edoardo: sure... just take a look at /etc/apt/sources.list (and eventually uncomment the universe entries) [03:25] edoardo: you can apt-get 'em if you add the universe source to your sources.list. it's not enabled by default, but it's easily added [03:25] <\sh> or if then do it like ~x86 plus masking [03:25] <\sh> and 17000 packages of them [03:25] <\sh> and the rest is main and restricted [03:25] really 17000? phew i thought it were only about 10000 ;) [03:26] \sh: how is that photo a picture of MoM? or was that a joke? === sistpoty feels more weight on the shoulders *G* [03:26] <\sh> dooglus: it's the picture of keybuks mom [03:26] \sh: ok, I thought it would be something like that :) [03:27] <\sh> sistpoty: well..it doesn't matter if 10000 or 17000 IT'S TOO MUCH for a hand full of people [03:28] <\sh> but now....good night heroes [03:28] well, we got 1000 people of indirect upstream ;) (the DDs) *g* [03:28] gn8 \sh [03:28] \sh, i don't know what to do with link you gave me : ) what could i do? : ) [03:28] hmm, doesn't that count only binary packages? [03:28] stupid question, but I'm not sure how to set up the email part of lpbugs [03:28] <\sh> edoardo: add your application to it? [03:29] \sh, by clickin'... i see a list : ) [03:29] <\sh> edoardo: get a launchpad account and edit the page..it's a wiki, add your application to the list... [03:29] uh, now it's a little more clear [03:29] <\sh> edoardo: if you're upstream, and we see some work on your sources, we will include it somehow [03:29] and when i've got it listed i come back here and talk to you about it? [03:30] <\sh> edoardo: well...we will deal with this list [03:30] cool! : ) [03:30] <\sh> ok...good night now...REALLY [03:31] goodnight dude! : ) [03:31] edoardo: but coming back and pinging surely will surely help ;) [03:31] mmm [03:31] Scripts! [03:34] what's with scripts? : ) [03:34] the Motu-Tools :D [03:35] scripts are cool. i like c programmin' too, and i've been writin' a lot more c programs than scripts. but it turns out the first really useful thing i wrote and published was audio-convert. which is a script : ) === bmonty_laptop [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:38] hmmm, what do I do if I can't get jbailey's bzr snapshot 'coz there's NO_PUBKEY? [03:39] I couldn't finish my apt-get update [03:39] zakame: did it really not finished or just show some warning? [03:39] I still can't tell the difference between aa merge and a sync :P [03:40] sistpoty: it did not finish... I got the Release and Package files, but upon rebuilding the apt db, it failed [03:40] zakame: you could dl it by hand... or try with bzr in breezy [03:40] ok [03:41] Kyral: a sync is only if you need no modification to the current debian package, otherwise it's a merge [03:43] okaay [03:44] hey all [03:44] hi bmonty_laptop [03:44] can some one please take a look at #1213 and possibly upload? [03:44] hi bmonty_laptop [03:44] ei bmonty_laptop [03:45] hi LaserJock, sistpoty, and zakame! === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@adsl-69-153-128-173.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] hmm bzrtools is not in breezy, but in dapper [03:50] what do I do if there is a build dep on awk? [03:50] zakame: deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/snapshot/bzr/ ./ [03:51] LaserJock: yup, but I'm having problems about NO_PUBKEY for the Release.gpg file [03:52] LaserJock: awk actually should be on the buildds (as it's required) [03:52] zakame: I did it in synaptic and it worked fine [03:53] sistpoty: but awk doesn't exist as a package [03:53] sistpoty: there is original-awk [03:53] LaserJock: hmmm, I'm on a dapper-chroot ;) [03:54] LaserJock: if i understand this correctly, awk (virtual package) should be already satisfied since mawk is installed [03:54] there's mawk and gawk [03:54] so is it ok to still have a build-dep on awk, or should it be changed? [03:54] LaserJock: awk is just a virtual package [03:54] LaserJock: so this shouldn't be a problem [03:54] minghua: ok, well that makes sense [03:55] LaserJock: if you mean use awk during the build, yes that's fine [03:55] LaserJock: if you mean put awk in Build-Depends line in debian/control, no don't do that [03:55] hmmm, a build-dep on a virtual package doesn't seem to make sense, that would confuse the autobuilders [03:55] minghua: it is already in build-depends [03:56] LaserJock: that's a bug, submit it :-) [03:56] minghua: well, I can change it since I am merging the package [03:56] zakame: in that case it shouldn't, as it's already there [03:56] I just don't know what to change it too [03:56] LaserJock: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-mentors@lists.debian.org/msg41249.html [03:57] LaserJock: do the least possible amount of changes between debian-packages and ubuntu-packages... if it's there and won't hurt leave it [03:57] LaserJock: drop the awk dependence completely, awk is essential [03:57] LaserJock: but file a bug in BTS ;) [03:57] LaserJock: as long as it's not a versioned dependence [03:58] minghua: no versioned dependece [03:58] sistpoty: so I should leave it for now even though I have to change other build-depends anyway? [03:59] LaserJock: yep, leave it... (least possible change) [04:00] ok [04:01] hmm, apparently us.archive.ubuntu.com is not syncing their mirror for dapper everyday [04:01] hope they at least sync the security mirror [04:01] how come there is no libttf2-dev? There is libttf-deb and libttf2 [04:02] LaserJock: you mean libttf-dev, don't you? [04:02] minghua: sorry, yea libttf-dev, how come there is no libttf2-dev? [04:02] LaserJock: that's normal, just use the libttf-dev === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-47-165.nycap.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:03] -dev packages are not required to have the SONAME [04:03] I think having only one -dev package is even encouraged [04:03] hmm, ok, that could be confusing [04:03] those freetype 1 programs should really be ported to freetype 2 anyway... [04:04] i think if there is no good reason to build against the old lib there should only be one -dev package but if there is then two are required [04:04] plugwash: exactly === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [04:06] bmonty_laptop: I'm just taking a look at wesnoth-data-debdiff... maybe this will be my first upload as motu ;) [04:07] i added my audio-conversion script to the universe candidates! [04:09] ain't it cool? : ) [04:12] sistpoty: thanks :) [04:13] well, goodnight everyone! and thankyou you guys! see ya tomorrow! : ) [04:13] bmonty_laptop: I haven't built it yet ;) [04:13] edoardo: gn8... just a thought: maybe you could add a manpage for it (i tried --help first and it got confused) [04:14] poor script, it's not trained to help out : ) well it's because mainly it's intended as a nautilus script [04:14] like, you right click on files and convert them [04:14] it can optionally be used as a bash script though [04:15] yeah, maybe an --help function wouldn't be bad after all : ) === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:15] sure it would... and a manpage as well (every binary/script should have one) ;) === sistpoty is out for a smoke... brb [04:24] if I use lpbug.py should the website be updated right away? [04:27] LaserJock: no, the website is update by mail through the universe-bugs list... [04:27] updated even [04:27] sistpoty: I'm not seeing any emails either [04:28] Hmm, should we assign bugs to universe-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com or universe-bugs@tiber.tauware.de? [04:28] LaserJock: I haven't tried lpbugs.py myself yet... only newmerge.py [04:28] there are two addressed in malone [04:29] minghua: to lists@ubuntu.com [04:29] how do you set up your email for this? [04:29] sistpoty: okay, I'll clarify on wiki as well [04:30] minghua: the list @tiber is only, because launchpad is not capable of assigning mails from two teams to the same email-adress [04:31] minghua: it's forwarded from tiber to universe-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com ;) [04:31] LaserJock: for what? for newmerge.py? [04:31] lpbugs.py [04:31] sistpoty: I see === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.15] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:32] LaserJock: as i said, I haven't taken a look at this ;) [04:32] so how do you use newmerge.py? [04:33] is anybody using lpbugs.py? [04:34] LaserJock: try looking at the readme... or try newmerge.py --help [04:35] sistpoty: not much help, the readme is for lpbugs and newmerge.py --help doesn't give me much [04:35] LaserJock: what package are they from? [04:35] LaserJock: argl... mom [04:36] bmonty_laptop: what? [04:36] bmonty_laptop: see \sh's mail on -devel [04:37] ah...I haven't gotten through -devel today :) [04:39] so what do I do? should I just skip using motu-tools stuff? [04:40] LaserJock: mom... i just tried lpbugs.py ;) [04:41] LaserJock: there is my lpbugs.conf: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4337 [04:41] LaserJock: you need to copy (an adjusted version) to ~/.lpbugs [04:42] sistpoty: hmm, i don't know how to use sendmail [04:42] LaserJock: do you have a mail-server installeD? [04:43] sistpoty: not sure but I don't thinks so. I imap or ssh to my school server [04:44] i don't even have sendmail installed [04:45] LaserJock: you need smtp then... but I can't tell you how this works (as I even don't have the means to try this) [04:45] hmm, that seems to be the problem. I already tried it with the setting from Thunderbird [04:45] LaserJock: bug \sh tomorrow... maybe it's a bug ;) [04:48] hmm, ok, well I guess I will do it by hand [04:50] LaserJock: I guess, that newmerge.py won't help you either, as it uses mailx (unless you can send mails by "mail" on the shell) [04:53] sistpoty: I don't know, never tried it [04:53] LaserJock: then try to mail yourself a test-mail ;) mail you@email.address [04:53] sistpoty: is mail part of mailx, I don't have it [04:54] I am looking at the package cppunit [04:54] the only relevant ubuntu change left is in Build-Depends, from libqt3-mt-dev to libqt3-mt-dev (>= 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu4) [04:54] LaserJock: ok, then I guess it won't work === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:55] but since the qt in dapper is sure to be GCC 4.0 ABI, can we just drop this change? [04:55] in that case, it's just a sync instead of a merge [04:56] minghua: if this was only because of gcc-transition, then sure ;) [04:57] sistpoty: well, the only previous ubuntu change is for c++ transition, so I suppose so [04:57] another easy one, then :-) [04:58] minghua: if the version in breezy is already as high as 3.3.3.3-7ubuntu4, than it's ok (we don't support upgrades from hoary to dapper) [04:58] sistpoty: good point, will check [04:59] sistpoty: yes it is [04:59] :) [05:00] bmonty_laptop: uploading wesnoth... this might take some time [05:00] bmonty_laptop: if this is in the merge, could you please file merge bugs as well? [05:01] <-- needs another cigarette... brb [05:02] hmm, I thought we were supposed to support Hoary->Dapper [05:02] (since we support Warty->Breezy) [05:03] so are we assigning to universe-bugs@tiber.tauware.de or not? [05:03] I'm using it for the new ones, yes [05:06] sistpoty: thanks, I'll check the merge [05:07] doesn't look like wesnoth is a merge package [05:08] LaserJock: according to sistpoty, no [05:08] minghua: interesting, some are some aren't [05:08] minghua: I'm going with lists.ubuntu.com [05:08] (21:30:39) sistpoty: minghua: the list @tiber is only, because launchpad is not capable of assigning mails from two teams to the same email-adress [05:08] (21:31:04) sistpoty: minghua: it's forwarded from tiber to universe-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com ;) [05:09] re [05:09] these are the answers sistpoty gave me [05:09] exactly === dooglus_ [n=dooglus@r2m7.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:10] so who should I bug to get the PendingUpload packages uploaded? :-) [05:10] I have two easy one, just sync from debian [05:10] minghua: some motu... like me ;) [05:11] and I really want cppunit to be in, as it's build dependency for aptitude [05:11] minghua: but this might take some time... as I can only forward these requests to elmo (and he seems quite busy) [05:11] sistpoty: cool, can you look at #4087 and #4173? [05:11] minghua: is cppunit in main then? === Do [n=dooglus@r2m7.chello.upc.cz] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:12] sistpoty: no, it seems only for testing [05:12] ah, k [05:12] sistpoty: aptitude don't link anything from cppunit AFAIK [05:12] it can't if cppunit is in universe, since aptitude is in main [05:14] can't LaserJock forward the sync requests to elmo on his own (that is what i do) [05:14] crimsun: can you look at these please? (i should be in bed for a few hours actually) [05:15] bmonty_laptop: he can... but I dunno if elmo will care then ;) [05:15] I don't think elmo puts a high priority on sync requests for universe with everything else he has to do [05:16] sistpoty: which, sorry, just returned from jdub's presentation [05:16] 4087 & 4173? [05:16] yeah, I'll look [05:16] thx crimsun :) [05:17] minghua: I'll ask elmo to sync a whole bunch in a bit, just trying to queue them [05:17] crimsun: great, thanks === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:30] good night everyone === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-227-135-244.dsl.renocs.nvbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:55] gn8 everybody === Mirno [n=mirspcm@office.spcmnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tkup [n=tkup@w-mob101-128-62-85-237.public.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:10] we have eclipse to merge? [06:11] and there is not a proper ubuntu patch (it gives 2.1.3-4 -> 3.1.1-1ubuntu3) :-( === hunger [n=hunger@p54A620CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:11] hi everyone [07:11] hi tritium [07:11] What's going on, LaserJock? [07:12] doing some merging, working on wiki and MOTUscience [07:12] but I probably need to get to bed soon :( [07:13] tritium: can you review on REVU? [07:13] LaserJock, I don't believe so. If I can, I'm not aware of it. [07:14] Nor do I know if I really should be allowed to... [07:14] aren't you a MOTU? [07:16] LaserJock, yes, but when I started preparing for my defense, I had to take a sabbatical. Now I'm out of touch with things. [07:17] (actually you can, Mike.) [07:18]