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bob2shinu: "man resolv.conf" says it cares about the first three12:00
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bob2marlun: hah, cool12:00
bob2jeanluc: please stop pasting that12:00
bob2jeanluc: or anything at all, in here12:00
shinuLjL: thanks ut i think its alright :P i wont really need that12:00
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jeanlucsorry12:00
shinubob2: i see12:00
_Dezdoes Gaim run on ubuntu?12:00
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shogo.irc-hispano.org12:00
phasegenCan anyone tell me where to find audacity for breezy?  Synaptic says it isn't out there...12:01
topyliagtnz: sudo update-alternatives www-browser and sudo update-alternatives x-www-browser12:01
LjL_dez: of course it does12:01
icewt_Dez: ubuntu ships with gaim12:01
NotLarryok, the power is off to the radio on my wi-fi card, anyone know how to turn it on?12:01
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zeenixhey guys12:01
solidgroovephasegen audacity.sf.net12:01
agtnztopyli: danke12:01
shinubob2: i just wondered its strange that it doesnt have a nameserver command... thats all :D and also i couldnt get it from the repos12:01
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bob2phasegen: eh?12:01
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bob2nisqpaul: please turn that off12:01
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thechitowncubsphasegen, its there, in universe12:01
Ophiocusphasegen,  make sure you have the correct repositories12:01
phasegensolidgroove: Thank You!12:01
bob2phasegen: it's in universe12:01
bob2phasegen: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto, wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:02
mmiikkee12i'm considering switching to ubuntu from debian, but first, a few questions. does it let you use new software or force you on 2.6.8 kernels like debian?12:02
phasegenI have universe and multiverse enabled.12:02
agtnz_Dez: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80423&highlight=initng for speeding up boot12:02
solidgroovemmiikkee12, its newest software12:02
mmiikkee12good12:02
topyliagtnz: sorry, it's update-altenatives config x-www-browser. i forgot the "config" part. might even be "configure"12:02
LjLsolidgroove: it's "newest" software?12:02
bob2mmiikkee12: uh, Debian doesn't "force" you on 2.6.8 kernels12:02
bob2mmiikkee12: please don't spread such silly fud12:03
mmiikkee12sarge does...12:03
zeenixthe netwok-admin doesn't seem to provide an option like 'activate on boot' for individual network interfaces12:03
mmiikkee12anyway12:03
trappistno it doesn't12:03
mmiikkee12can i install it from debian without burning a cd?12:03
solidgrooveLjL, there is a gnome newer than 2.12.2?12:03
nisqpaulbob2: help me here turn what off?12:03
bob2mmiikkee12: not simply12:03
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LjLsolidgroove: i don't think gnome is the only software around is it?12:03
biatchea screen question... for those who are familiar.. when do you use -D -m .. and when do you use -d -m? I can't differentiate between the two...-D = doesnt fork a new process? wtf -_-;;12:03
bob2nisqpaul: that irritating /away scrip you're using12:03
KnowerrorsW: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>12:03
KnowerrorsW: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>12:03
bob2mmiikkee12: debian sid is in general more up to date than ubuntu's development branch12:03
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bob2Knowerrors: point apt at archive.ubuntu.com instead12:04
topylimmiikkee12: it's 2.6.12 on breezy. when the next one comes out in six months, we will have whatever is new at that time12:04
KnowerrorsAnybody else getting this? "W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"12:04
mmiikkee122.6.12 is ok12:04
nisqpaulBob2:  I am not away?12:04
topylimmiikkee12: six months stable releases, no changes in that time12:04
bob2nisqpaul: I don't know or care, but your IRC client should not be announcing it to the channel12:04
agtnz_Dez: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76543&highlight=ntpdate, as well12:04
DShepherdhow do I install install a gdm theme?12:04
SEJefftopyli: Except for security updates12:04
mmiikkee12can i upgrade to newer stuff without a bunch of hassle between releases?12:04
topyliSEJeff: yes, of course12:04
trappistbiatche: the difference is described pretty clearly in the screen man page12:04
agtnzDShepherd: gdmsetup12:04
SeveasKnowerrors, don't use us.archive.ubuntu.com12:04
nisqpaulbob2:  How do I turn off the anouncement...   sorry looking for any advice you can give12:05
agtnzDShepherd: Install new theme and point to the archive12:05
biatchetrappist: i've asked a few people... i don't understand it.. ok, so when do you use oine, when do u use the other12:05
bob2mmiikkee12: like Debian, yes12:05
DShepherdagtnz: thanks12:05
bob2nisqpaul: depends on your irc client12:05
KnowerrorsSeveas: so just remove the "us" ?12:05
topylimmiikkee12: there are backports, but you must really be hungry for the bleeding edge if you can't take six months :)12:05
n0odl3how do i play midi/mid?12:05
nisqpaulbob2 X-chat12:05
SeveasKnowerrors, yeah12:05
mmiikkee12debian says i alreadt have the latest kernel when i only have 2.6.8...12:06
mmiikkee12anyway12:06
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topylimmiikkee12: debian too lets you run any kernel you like...12:06
bob2mmiikkee12: because you're using Debian stable12:06
Knowerrorsthx, sorry for the multiple pastes, didn't show up on my end right away12:06
Madpilotmmiikkee12: latest should be 2.6.12something12:06
trappistbiatche: if you use -D you won't come back to the console.  I can't think of a time when I'd want that.  -d starts a detached screen and takes you back to the shell.12:06
nisqpaulbob2:  I am using X-chat  with ubuntu 5.1012:06
bimberinisqpaul: settings -> preferences -> general -> Announce away messages (untick)12:06
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mmiikkee12ok, so ubuntu updates more often, that question is answered.12:07
mmiikkee12can i install without a cd?12:07
topylimmiikkee12: not very easily12:07
biatchetrappist: interesting............ in the end, i know i should use -d -m ...... but ive yet to underestand the use of -D -m12:07
mmiikkee12stupid xchat12:07
nisqpaulBob2:   Thanks got it12:07
bob2nisqpaul: great, thank a lot12:07
mmiikkee12keeps beeping my computer when someoe says my nick12:07
bimberimmiikkee12: there are various ways - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation12:07
bob2mmiikkee12: same as Debian, you can debootstrap (advanced) or pxe install (intermediate)12:07
nisqpaulBimberi:   Sorry thanks12:07
trappistbiatche: -D doesn't fork a new process, which is why you're stuck with it until you attach to and terminate the screen session.  I don't know why you'd use it, but I suspect it has a purpose.12:08
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mmiikkee12looking at that, hold on12:08
bimberinisqpaul: np :)12:08
Chopstix2http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20522&page=3 can anyone help please?12:08
biatchetrappist: mysterious world of screen... but thanks12:08
trappist<3 screen12:08
LjLmmiikkee12: ubuntu definitely doesn't update more often than debian testing/unstable, tho it does update oftener than debian stable12:08
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ompaulmmiikkee12, that is your setting - check settings preferences chatting general12:09
mmiikkee12yes, i have sarge (stable12:09
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mmiikkee12just hold on.12:09
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squirrelpimpjo... i have a problem with the usbdisk automount feature... a disk always gets mounted as the currently logged in user... and others aren't allowed even to read it...12:10
mmiikkee12bimberi: found the perfect page for my problem but the page doesn't exist :P12:10
squirrelpimpwhere should i look for in order to fix it?12:10
agtnztopyli: I don't have update-alternatives... any idea what package to install?12:10
topyliLjL: running ubuntu is different from running any debian. stable is, well, stable. unstable updates every day. testing is completely insecure12:10
DShepherdagtnz: how about usplash. how do you install that?12:10
bimberimmiikkee12: :/12:10
DShepherddo you know*12:10
agtnzDShepherd: Dunno man :P12:10
squirrelpimpany suggestions??12:10
DShepherdkool agtnz.12:11
LjLtopyli: whatever, but saying that ubuntu updates packages more often than debian is simply wrong. at least, i depends on the debian12:11
mmiikkee12hold on...12:11
mmiikkee12looking12:11
DShepherdHow do I install a usplash?12:11
DShepherdneva mind12:11
topyliagtnz: every debian-like system must have update-alternatives. perhaps /usr/sbin is not in your path? try specifying /usr/sbin/update-alternatives12:11
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agtnztopyli: Yeah, that worked. ta12:13
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DShepherdwhat;s happening?12:15
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LjLwhat's the sanest way to only allow inbound net access from the local network (on certain specified ports)? i mean, *without* risking a faked-IP attack. i have multiple ethernet cards, eth0 is connected to the internet, eth1 and the rest are connected to the local network12:16
topyliLjL: yep. unstable is more vibrant. i switched to ubuntu from unstable just because of that. it's the peace of mind :)12:16
agtnztopyli: which file do i edit to add to my PATH ?12:16
topyliagtnz: .bashrc in your home directory12:17
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topylinote, it's a dot file12:17
agtnz:)12:17
badcomcomo eu crio usuario root12:17
LjLtopyli: i suppose we're different ;) myself, i very recently switched to ubuntu and like it, but i get seriously anxious every time i do an aptitude dist-upgrade (i.e. every ten minutes) and don't see anything :-)12:17
LjL!es12:17
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:17
LjL!pt12:17
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.12:17
bob2LjL: people outside your isp almost certainly cannot spoof their ip for anything aside from udp traffic12:17
DShepherdwhat package can I install to get a dock thing like Mac in Ubuntu?12:18
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LjLbob2: i care *only* about people *inside* my ISP, since all the others can't access me to begin with, as my USP puts us all behind NAT12:18
squirrelpimp!de12:18
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe12:18
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LjLbob2: and i do care about udp too anyway12:18
topyliagtnz: here's my .bashrc for reference. don't copy it straight over :) http://siltala.net/comp/dot-bashrc12:18
bob2LjL: uh, suck12:18
LjLbob2: yeah, i know12:18
agtnztopyli: appreciated :)12:19
LjLbob2: but they give me 10mbps12:19
LjLbob2: fiber optical, no adsl12:19
bob2LjL: well, just run iptables on your gateway and filter everything aside from inbound on particular ports12:19
bob2LjL: hah, nice12:19
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badcomcomo eu crio usuario root12:19
ubuntualguem ai do brasil?12:19
bob2pretty clearly not a spanish-speaking channel12:19
LjLportuguese, actually12:20
ubuntubadcom: tais ai?12:20
Madpilot!pt12:20
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.12:20
bob2ah12:20
badcomsim12:20
bob2oh, I'm blind12:20
badcomubuntu sim12:20
bob2I should go drink coffee until I'm concious12:20
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squirrelpimpanyone having an idea for my permissions-problem???12:20
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DShepherdwhat package can I install to get a dock thing like Mac in Ubuntu?12:21
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_native_l12:21
squirrelpimpDShepherd: look for gdesklets... theres one doin that!12:22
trappistsquirrelpimp: you could set your umask to 023 or something12:22
mmiikkee12can someone create this for me :) ?12:22
mmiikkee12https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallationFromLinuxHardDisk12:22
BlissexDShepherd: 'apt-cache search dock | sort -u | less' for hints12:22
LjLbob2: does this sound decent? iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport <blocked-port> -j DROP ; iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport <blocked-port> -s 192.168.0.1/24 -j ACCEPT12:22
topyliLjL: lucky you, drapper development tree is open now :)12:22
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topylidapper even12:22
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trappistok is it dapper or drapper?12:22
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DShepherdBlissex: yeah I did that...saw a package called docker12:23
anavimdapper12:23
squirrelpimptransgress: where du i set that for that automatic mounting stuff??12:23
LjLbob2: sorry, i just forgot to change it to the interface instead of the address....that would be: iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport <blocked-port> -j DROP ; iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport <blocked-port> -i eth1 -j ACCEPT12:23
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mmiikkee12nm, found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromAnotherDistro12:23
LjLbob2: assuming eth1 is my *local* network interface12:23
bob2LjL: I'd just set -P INPUT REJECT ; -A INPUT -s whatever -j ACCEPT12:23
squirrelpimptrappist: where du i set that for that automatic mounting stuff??12:23
squirrelpimpwrong addressee..12:24
LjLbob2: but isn't "-s whatever" vulnerable to IP spoofing? (still keeping in mind i'm worrying about attacks coming from inside my isp)12:24
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total_assaulthey can anyone help me install w32codecs on amd64 breezey?12:24
trappistsquirrelpimp: `umask 023` will set that as the umask for that user.  if that works, put it in a .bash_profile or something12:24
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bob2LjL: how do you plan to avoid other people spoofing ips?12:24
blackvdok new prob, everytime I log inot fluxbox my screen res resets to the default which is 128012:24
blackvd*into12:25
trappisttotal_assault: w32codecs isn't going to work on amd6412:25
bob2LjL: they can't (usefully) spoof tcp unless  they take down one of your isp's routers12:25
blackvdbut I need 102412:25
LjLbob2: i don't... but i plan to disallow anything coming from eth0 (which is the internet), and only allow stuff coming from eth1 (local network)12:25
blackvdtried sudo kcontrol then changing it12:25
total_assaulttrappist: no wonder why ive been trying to do it fro 3 hours with no avail12:25
squirrelpimptrappist: only for the automatic mounting or does if affect other thing?? theres no manpage...12:25
anavimis bugzilla really gone?  launchpad now is for reporting bugs?12:25
blackvdbut it keeps reseting everytime I login12:25
bob2LjL: oh, right12:25
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trappisttotal_assault: they're precompiled 32-bit windows (w32) binaries12:26
jvaioye forums..12:26
trappistsquirrelpimp: it sets your umask for everything12:26
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total_assaulttrappist: thats it then im installing 32 bit, too many probelms on 64 bit still no flash, no codecs etc..12:27
PhuzionCan someone help me out with getting user accounts to work on pure-ftpd?12:27
LjLbob2: i think specifying network interfaces instead of IPs would be safer, even if very slightly safer, no?12:27
LjLbob2: people can't spoof my network cards, no matter how hard they try ;) i suppose12:27
squirrelpimptrappist: so that's something i definitely don't want... because then everybody will not only be able to read the mounted volume but also all my other files...12:27
bob2LjL: right12:27
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louis_hi all12:28
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solidgrooveLjL ubuntu has new software when it is released, what is old?12:28
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LjLbob2: if i were using another ISP, i'd just ask some of you here to nmap me, see what's wrong, and fix case-by-case... but since i'm simply not reachable from anyone except my ISP's users (and i don't know any), i think i'd feel better with a more drastic approach, you see12:29
ngdHi everyone, anyone else had trouble with initrd failing to install during installation12:29
ngd?12:29
LjLsolidgroove: ubuntu has new software every six months, normally, unless you consider backports (which don't even currently exist) or some other weird stuff12:29
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agtnzLjL: Backports started existing y'day.12:29
LjLagtnz: did it? that's cool... ought to be in the topic!12:30
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strike3_native_: just to let you know - i got wep working - went back to no security first - needed reboot to get that working the wep worked no probs12:30
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Toranwhen are you guys planning on releaseing the latest version of xchat to the repositories?12:30
marlunHow come I can't find bittorrent client thats in ubuntu in the Package Manager?12:30
Phuzionmarlun:  BitTornado isn't there?12:31
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_native_strike3/ great, feels good knowing you made some progress huh. :-] 12:31
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ompaulmarlun, why not click on applications internet bittorrent ?12:31
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bob2LjL: if yor rules are going to be more than a couple of lines long, you might want to look at shorewall12:31
bob2marlun: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto, they're in universe12:32
LjLbob2: i'll have a look, thanks12:32
_native_strike3/ next stop full wpa support.12:32
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PhuzionOr sudo "apt-get install bittornado" if you don't have it installed.12:32
jvaii'm on hoary still, but the last updates i recieved were for kde things, & bfore then, a few for fetchmail12:33
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squirrelpimptrappist: it does not work btw...12:33
Phuzionmarlun: Are you KDE or Gnome?12:33
jvaiooh yea.. this morning i got upgrades for rpms??12:33
marlunPhuzion, gnome-bittorrent is the client.12:33
bob2jvai: are you using breezy?12:34
PhuzionYeah, I know that, I was going to suggest that for you.12:34
jvaii'm on gnome12:34
marlunompaul, because then it only tells me to select a torrent file, I can't set any properties or anything.12:34
bob2jvai: that's not a Debian release12:34
strike3_native_: think i'll enjoy it working with wep for a short time before upsetting it all again - incase i cant go back12:34
marlunPhuzion, gnome12:34
jvaino, i'm using hoary @bob12:34
Phuzionmarlun:  Alright, then you should have the program installed, but if not, in terminal, type "sudo apt-get install gnome-btdownload"12:35
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ompauljvai, start the line with a persons nick, then others will filter it out leave out the @ then you can do less typing this is the way of irc :)12:35
cafuego_omg, that's sexy :-)12:35
_native_bob2; ive found that the iptables match extension -m owner --cmd-owner is not present is this because the ubuntu2.6.12-9 dose not include that extension yet? cause it would be a nice feature to have.12:35
marlunPhuzion, I've got it installed :) but I was wondering why I couldn't see it in the Package Manager.12:35
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PhuzionOh, because it's probably the latest version.12:35
marlunPhuzion, and I also need a way to change the port that gnome-bittorrent uses (and set the maxupload/download)12:35
ompaulcafuego_, what is?12:36
bob2_native_: you could file a wishlist bug on the kernel asking for it to be included12:36
Phuzionmarlun, I don't have experience with the client.12:36
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marlunPhuzion, Okey, I found an explanation on the ubuntu forum but I'm totally new to this so I don't really get it :/12:36
_native_yeah it seems as though it could be very useful. i'll do that. ;-] 12:36
jvaibob, should i delete the rpm updates, i'll neva use them, there was also a note about using ALIEN for unknown apps12:37
PhuzionAlright, so can someone help me with getting PAM Authentication to work in Pure-FTPD?12:37
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cozhello all12:37
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coz has anyone tried the O&O defrag for linux?12:37
bob2O&O?12:38
cafuego_coz: On ext2/ext3 you traditionally don't bother with defragging12:38
cozO&O is the company12:38
cafuego_bob2: payware company12:38
bob2Phuzion: unless you have a onvincing reason otherwise, I'd just use proftpd12:38
bob2or no ftp at all12:38
cozI rea lize that but wanted to know id\f someon has tested this12:38
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cafuego_coz; I doubt it, spending money on a tool noone has a need for seems silly ;-)12:39
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adarhas every Ubuntu release mapped network interfaces to hotplug? On my hoary box I don't see "auto eth0" which means that /etc/init.d/networking restart always leaves me sans networking12:39
kornitoare all liveCD's supposed to allow an installation on disk ? or only some linux distros ?12:39
cozwell I think it is beta and free right now12:39
jvaiis it safe to emty the TMP folder on the daily?? i just did today.. but i couldnt undo the ICE,&ORBIT & XO ones.. i think that12:39
bob2adar: it seems to have varied between releases12:39
bob2jvai: /tmp? no.12:39
LjLkornito: i don't think every livecd there is around allows hd installation12:39
_native_kornito; some livecds have that feature some dont.12:39
cafuego_coz: ext2defrag is not beta, also free and still not needed.12:39
bob2coz: I wouldn't trust binary, closed-source stuff to touch my filesystem12:39
cozOk can all fo the .deb files be removed safely from ubuntu?12:39
jvais my issue w/ using starbucks wifi, & neva bein assign'd an ip12:40
kornitook thanx12:40
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bob2especially since I doubt it was written by a ext2/3 hacker12:40
cafuego_coz: Yes. 'sudo apt-get clean' will do it for you.12:40
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adarbob2: its problematic because I'm writing some scripts to automatically call networking stop on suspend and networking restart on resume, and there's no networking when I'm done12:40
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cozthanks12:40
adarbob2: is there any sort of workaround? any releases that aren't doing it?12:40
jgwhrm ubuntuforums.org rocks12:40
cozI'll try that12:40
kornitoi don't wanna sound like a troll, but is ubuntu overthrowing debian ?12:41
cozwowo that was fast I think I better check if they were all removed12:41
bob2adar: you can remove the hotplug lines yourself12:41
Wellyhmm.. i'm trying to sudo apt-get install openssh-server and it keeps asking me to insert the ubuntu cd12:41
bob2kornito: no12:41
Phuzionbob2, does proftpd have PAM Authentication on automatically?12:41
fruudim trying to "./configure" this KDE "window decoration" and i get this error, what can i do ?12:41
Wellywhich i have done but it doesn't recognise it12:41
bob2Phuzion: yes12:41
LjLkornito: depends what you mean, ubuntu couldn't even *exist* without debian12:41
fruudchecking for KDE... configure: error:12:41
fruudin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.12:41
fruudSo, check this please and use another prefi12:41
bob2Phuzion: bear in mind that using non-anonymous ftp is askign for trouble (ie cleartext passwords)12:41
LjLfruud: install kdelibs4-dev12:41
bob2fruud: and you're compiling..?12:41
kornitodo u think there will be more ubuntu than debian in the future ?12:41
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fruudoke thx!!!12:41
_native_kornito; no way, ubuntu is just more progressive / cutting edge12:41
bob2Welly: edit /etc/apt/sources.list to remoe the cd line if you don't want that12:42
cozapt-get clean didn't remove a single .deb file12:42
LjLfruud: using aptitude, possibly, as otherwise you'll have lots of dependencies to remove later12:42
bob2_native_: debian has newer packages than ubuntu in nearly every case12:42
Phuzionbob2, it's going to be on a local intranet, and not accessable from outside, so I'm set on security.12:42
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LjLfruud: (if you want to remove them, that is)12:42
fruudkk12:42
Wellycool cheers bob212:42
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_native_bob2; really12:42
fruud:D12:42
kornito_native_: a little less stable ? :)12:42
bob2_native_: gnome is about the only exception12:42
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_native_bob2; its based on debian testing though right?12:42
bob2_native_: more or less everything else in ubuntu comes from debian12:42
bob2_native_: no, sid12:43
_native_ahh12:43
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bob2_native_: e.g. debian had a more recent version of X than ubuntu for a few weeks, and now they are the same12:43
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LjLbob2: well, i'm not sure, but i don't think the kde 3.5 beta is in debian... though to be honest it's not in ubuntu either, it's in a separate but official rep12:43
_native_bob2; i must have read inaccurate docs,12:43
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markwargh.12:43
markwok...    make wants gcc 3.412:43
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cozI take that back it did remove the .deb files and left the ,debian .gz files nevermind12:43
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LjLmarkw: aptitude install gcc-3.412:44
bob2markw: kernel stuff?12:44
GNULinuxGeekCan anyone explain why Synaptic is not selecting any packages for upgrade?12:44
LjLmarkw: end then "export CC=gcc-3.4"12:44
bob2GNULinuxGeek: are you using breezy?12:44
bob2LjL: ah, ok12:44
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GNULinuxGeekYes12:44
Stormx2GNULinuxGeek: Because non need to be upgraded?12:44
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ompaulGNULinuxGeek, your up to date?12:44
markwbob2: yeah, gonna build a em64T smp kernel.12:44
Stormx2_native_: Good on you :)12:44
cozI am astickler for clean drives , are there any applications that help clean off the drives?12:44
kornitobob2: so why would someone stick to debian instead of ubuntu ?12:44
adarbob2: last question, do you happen to know which releases map to hotplug and which don't? Or any way I could find out on my own?12:44
GNULinuxGeekShould not be as I have not upgraded in two weeks12:45
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markwkornito: so you can ask questions in #debian.12:45
LjLkornito: unstable is more cutting edge, and stable is unbeatable for servers12:45
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ompaulGNULinuxGeek, once you upgraded you are in stable - so less things change, only things with security issues12:45
bob2kornito: I use Debian because I like the community (especially the development one), and because I think an independant free OS is very very important12:45
bob2kornito: I use ubuntu because it Just Works on my laptop12:45
Phuzionbob2:  Can you help me out here, I just installed proftpd, and its not letting me log in for some reason.12:45
bob2different audiences in the same person!12:46
bob2Phuzion: read auth.log12:46
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kornitobob ok :-)12:46
LjLbob2: i use debian stable on my server, i use ubuntu on my desktop....12:46
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martin__hey, does anyone know where gnome stores all the icons in the menu bar?12:46
Phuzionbob2:  where would it be?12:46
_native_Phuzion; log files are great for tracking down exactly whats wrong.12:46
jvaithere r like 10 items in my TMP folder.. always12:46
bob2adar: I don't, sorry.  the only thing I could suggest is looking at base-config in each releae (ie download and dpkg-deb -x foo.deb them)12:46
markwLjL: this appears to be a little bit of dependancy issue.12:46
bob2Phuzion: /var/log12:46
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Phuzionthanks12:46
LjLbob2: actually, the stuff i was asking about iptables was about debian12:46
bob2jvai: which is probably fine12:46
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LjLmarkw: what do you mean?12:46
jvaiok12:47
bob2GNULinuxGeek: breezy is stable and will not get new software, only security fixes12:47
_native_LjL; are you new to iptables configuration?12:47
ngdanyone else had initrd-tools fail on install?12:47
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Stormx2martin__: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/12:47
kornitolinux is not suitable for old people12:47
Stormx2lmao!12:47
GNULinuxGeekI will give it a week or so and see if there are any issues.  I loaded this from scratch and that might change things.12:47
LjL_native_: not "new", since i first used iptables a long time ago... but never really got into it or learned how to do stuff12:47
_native_kornito; whatever my mom loves it.12:47
kornito_native_: she must be a techie12:47
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_native_LjL; its a good implementation.12:48
tnagHi all12:48
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markwLjL: make depends on gcc-3.4 yet when you install make, it doesn't install gcc-3.4, however, it should be depending on gcc-412:48
coz/usr/share/icons12:48
_native_kornito; no way ubuntu is just user friendly.12:48
LjLGNULinuxGeek: you *will* (or should) be able to install new packages in your breezy without waiting six months, anyway... the backports rep will have new packages when they're ready12:48
ompaulkornito, I don't know a 78/9 year old guy had a mail on one the mailing lists earlier today, and he is using Ubuntu that is linux so - Wrong!12:48
martin__Stormx2: I mean the actual link for the ICON, I have a fresh install and I want to have the menu exactly as I have it now12:48
bob2markw: "make" doesn't Depend on any gcc12:48
LjLmarkw: hmm breezy? on my breezy, make doesn't depend on gcc312:48
_native_kornito; all she needs is the internet.12:48
jvaii have shorewall, & squid install'd.. but there's not a way to configure them.. i just leav them b.. -novice12:48
markwLjL: make is asking for breezy..12:48
markwhmm.  let me check the makefile12:49
grodiushow do i compile .mar files12:49
markwsec12:49
bob2jvai: eh? squid has /etc/squid/squid.conf12:49
markwnm.12:49
bob2jvai: shorewall has an example config in /usr/share/doc/shorewall/12:49
kornitoi can't imagine a grandmother doing chmod and stuff12:49
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bob2jvai: neither are end-user tools12:49
markwit's the kernel tree makefile that wants gcc-3.412:49
bob2kornito: when do you need to use chmod while writing poems about doilies and tea cups?12:49
LjLkornito: why should she have to12:49
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ompaulkornito, I know a oap social club in Dublin that uses a linux network12:49
Stormx2markw: apt-get install gcc-3.412:49
jvaiooh in the ETC/ folder..12:49
grodiuscan someone tell me how to compile a .mar file??12:49
jvainow. do i use GEDIT to edit?12:50
LjLmarkw: but is that (the kernel source) an ubuntu package?12:50
ompaulkornito, and they have a bofh running the network12:50
marlunif for example I want to know which version of python-wxgtk that is installed on my system, how can I check?12:50
markwyes12:50
PhuzionHow do I change a user's access level to allow them to access to the root of the system?12:50
bob2markw: dpkg -l packagename12:50
PhuzionSpecifically, let them access /var/www12:50
Stormx2RewriteEngine On12:50
Stormx2RewriteRule ^sig.png sig.php12:50
Stormx2 <-- Not working :(12:50
LjLmarkw: weird then, but perhaps there's some reason why the linux kernel must be compiled with gcc3 yet?12:50
kornitobut debian is too hard to install if the grandma's computer crashes12:50
allorderI just installed an eggdrop with apt-get the problem is if I don't do ./eggdrop -m /home/..../eggdrop.conf it doesnt work. someone can help pls ?12:50
markwii  linux-tree-2.6.12                               2.6.12-9.23        Linux kernel tree for building prepackaged U12:50
jvaioooh. so. once shorewall, & squid is install.. i just "leav them be"?12:50
GNULinuxGeekNight All :>)12:50
ompaulkornito, you are now trolling12:51
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martin__any ideas where to look?  Im pretty sure its and XML file12:51
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martin__just cant find it  :(12:51
bob2Phuzion: sudo addgroup webmonkeys ; sudo chgrp webmonkeys /var/www ; sudo chmod g+rwxS /var/www ; sudo adduser theirusername webmonkeys12:51
markwLjL: working on a new 64 bit box to replace my aging desktop.12:51
kakaltois anyone else having troubles with dling torrents?12:51
kakaltoI'm at 98.71%, and can't go any further12:51
Phuzionbob2: thanks12:51
kakaltoit just stalled12:51
tnagOK - I've only put this unbuntu on my latop and I'm still tryign to find my way around12:51
kakaltoand it's done that for the last day and a half12:51
kornitobob2: are you a CS grad student ?12:51
LjLmarkw: oh ic... then i'll take myself out, haven't ever used a 64bits machine, i suppose they have different issues when compiling (kernel) stuff is involved12:52
bob2Phuzion: (then add whoever else to the webmonkeys group)12:52
bob2kornito: no12:52
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jvai<-- uninstallin squid & shorewall, to rely on iptables alone12:52
tnagcan someone teel me (simply) if/how to indstall wireless cards12:52
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allorderI just installed an eggdrop with apt-get the problem is if I don't do ./eggdrop -m /home/.../eggdrop.conf it doesnt work. someone can help pls ?12:52
Phuzionbob2:  Alright, I got the group, but now I need them to be able to access said directory through FTP.12:53
jvaitnag.. i gave up.. i'm using a orinoco gold 11b card now.. & got 2 silvers on the way from ebay12:53
kornitoi struggle in the CS department. i'm a hustler12:53
martin__I need to backup the menu, exactly how it is now, and the icons I have on the menu panel, I was able to do it a few months ago, just cant find it in breezy now12:53
ompaulkornito, sit back and enjoy the lesson12:54
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blankhey, how may I run a program so it's a process, in other words, say I'm running a server of some sort, how can I have it running without having the terminal window open12:55
jvaiwith ubuntu.. i guess the best place to b .. is to stay 1 bhind the freshest.. like.. when dapper comes out.. i'll move to breezy from hoary.. is that safe?12:55
grodiusbv12:55
bob2blank: daemons will background themselves12:55
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truz24blank, you can put an & on the end of the execution command as well...12:55
Phuzionbob2:  How do I make a user able to access the root of the system through FTP.12:55
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bob2jvai: that will work, but it's kinda silly12:55
bob2Phuzion: you don'\t, that is a terrible idea12:56
bob2Phuzion: just setup the ftpd so they can access /var/www/12:56
markwdoes ubuntu support kernel-package?12:56
jvaiwhy?? hoary is working12:56
markwheh, why yes it does..12:56
Phuzionbob2:  It's my own system on a local intranet, I'm not worried about security.12:56
PhuzionNo external users.12:56
Wellyis there a way to configure network settings (ip/dns etc.) from the terminal?12:56
bob2markw: yes12:56
blanktrux24: Thanks, and how may I stop this process when I want?12:56
bob2Welly: sure, /etc/network/interfaces (man 5 interfaces)12:56
bob2Phuzion: ok12:56
amonkeyis there anyway i can boost my mic anymore? i used amixer to turn capture to 100% but it's still rather soft.12:56
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Phuzionamonkey:  you may have to look into hardware if you're at 100% boost level.12:57
Secreth`Xyay, FINALLY found one that plays all my Mp3s :)12:57
Secreth`Xnow for my movies and Im good hehe12:58
amonkeyPhuzion, amixer is for alsa(right?), what if the app i'm using uses oss, will those settings apply? is there a different mixer?12:59
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Phuzionamonkey, I'm not familiar with what software you're using, just the fact that you may need to consider getting some type of hardware amplifier in order to get your voice louder through the PC.12:59
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amonkeyPhuzion, ah. thanks for the suggestion. maybe i can find a tape player with an in or something01:01
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Sanneamonkey: usually you have an oss compatibility layer if you're using alsa (which I believe the breezy kernel implements), so the settings of alsamixer would apply also to oss apps.01:01
PhuzionHow do I change a user's home folder?01:02
martin__anyone know where de menu and panel shortcuts are stored?   I need to backup it up to a diff pc01:02
bob2Phuzion: edit /etc/passwd (carefully)01:02
markwargh.   new stuff all the time.  Pentium 820-D (dual core), so do I do SMP, or SMT?01:02
markwI'm under the impression I do SMP.01:03
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bob2smp01:03
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mjrsmp, yeah01:03
Avenhi01:03
Aveneverytime I add a user...01:03
Aventhe password automaticlly changes itself..01:03
amonkeySanne, is there a mixer for oss so i can check?01:04
Wellywhat value needs setting for "broadcast"?01:04
Sanneamonkey: hmmm... I'm having aumix in my menu, I believe this is an oss mixer. Not sure though.01:05
amonkeySanne, thanks01:05
Sanneamonkey: but I think, if it works, it does it also through the alsa compatibility layer. What I definitely know is, you can#t have both alsa and oss loaded at the same time.01:06
martin__no one else is picky on there desktop?01:06
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NoobieDoobieDo?01:06
gleesondI'm having trouble copying files off of back up dvd's that I created in windows. I can copy about half of the files then it starts saying that there is an input/output error.01:06
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Shadowpillarwhy doesn't xine upgrade?01:07
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ShadowpillarI just got a breezy CD and I'm doing a smart upgrade01:07
HobbseeShadow777: try sudo apt-get install xine01:07
Shadowpillarbut totem and xine are being removed and xine cant be installed01:08
Hobbseehmmm01:08
Secreth`Xerr01:08
Secreth`Xgotta go01:08
Secreth`Xsee ya..01:08
Shadowpillarand I upgraded all http reps as well01:08
Avenman :(((01:09
Aveneverytime I add a user, the password automaticlly changes itself :(01:09
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funkyhi01:09
funkywhats the default user/passwd for cups in ubuntu ?01:09
funkyroot/passwd doesnt work01:09
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fruudi cant compile "window decorations" i get huge errors :)01:10
meatwad65hey everyone i fixed my touchpad01:10
meatwad65but i get an error when i start gnome that says failed to initialize hal...what does that mean exactly?01:11
LjLfruud: care to be a little more specific?01:11
fruudmake[2] : *** [configdialog.lo]  Error 101:11
fruudmake[2] : Leaving directory `/root/Desktop/knifty-0.3.4/client/config'01:11
fruudmake[1] : *** [install-recursive]  Error 101:11
fruudmake[1] : Leaving directory `/root/Desktop/knifty-0.3.4/client'01:11
fruudmake: *** [install-recursive]  Error 101:11
fruudfor exmpl.01:11
Hobbseefruud: paste the errors in the pastebin!01:11
fruud*_*01:11
Hobbsee!paste01:11
ubotuwell, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text01:11
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LjLthat doesn't mean anything, anyway, the real errors are well before that01:11
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Hobbseefruud: /topic01:12
fruudok ill post01:12
Hobbsee:)01:12
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fruuddone01:13
fruudposted now01:13
LjLfruud: URL?01:13
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fruudhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/432401:13
Shadowpillardoes gstreamer support dvd playback yet?01:13
meatwad65is there a ubuntu guide for 5.10 yet?01:13
LjLfruud: also, can you give me the URL you downloaded that knifty from, so i can try compiling it?01:13
Shadowpillar*GOOD* dvd playback?01:13
fruudkk01:13
fruudhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28801:13
Hobbsee!tell meatwad65 about faq01:13
fruudthere01:13
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LjLfruud: from the errors you gave, it looks like that program is broken with ubuntu, but let me give it a try01:14
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fruudaight aight, go ahead01:14
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LjLfruud: that URL is about "silver deco", which isn't a compilable package...01:15
LjLer, i mean, it isn't source code01:15
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kornitotoo many linux distros. this is all whack01:15
Homernever fear01:16
Homerhomer is here01:16
Homer!!!01:16
ubotu! is, like, what you add before a sentence to talk to me01:16
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fruud:O01:16
ojthi guys01:16
jgw! `cat /etc/passwd`01:16
ubotujgw: Do they come in packets of five?01:16
Hobbseehi ojt01:16
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LjLfruud: what's URL to the archive you're actually trying to *compile*? i suppose it's knifty, but01:16
ojtgot a poblem here01:16
Shadowpillarthis shit is pissing me off01:16
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SeveasShadowpillar, please watch your language...01:17
HomerI agree, we should all work on one distro01:17
Homerlets call it United Linux !01:17
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fruudhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=7290&id=101:17
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LjLwhat did he say?01:17
badcomQuando tento gravar algo no disquete, aparece que nao tenho permissao. O que fao01:17
Seveas!es01:17
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:17
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LjL!pt01:17
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.01:17
Seveasah right01:17
Seveasso similar to the outsider01:18
fruudLjL, will this work for me ? Really want that one ( http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12330 )01:18
germanHello01:18
Seveashi german01:18
LjL;) i sometimes take them both for italian, and i *am* italian, go figure01:18
germanHi Seveas, need some help...01:18
Seveasgerman, let's hope we can help... what's the problem?01:19
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blankSeveas & LjL = Teh Pimpz01:19
blank!ubotu!01:19
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.01:19
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blank*crying* I cant pway wit ubotu01:19
Seveasblank, don't play with the bot01:19
HrdwrBoB!play01:19
ubotuAll work and no play. Please don't play with me in the channel; experiment with me in /msg01:19
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germanwhen I start linux appear in the shell...01:20
blankdanke01:20
germanUmcomppressing Linux...01:20
germanthen it appears01:20
macintoshrheh 5 minutes ago i had 10 5.10 cds01:20
macintoshrnow i have 301:20
blankwhy01:20
ojtwhat does these means?01:20
meatwad65wow that help documentation really helps01:20
Seveasmacintoshr, 2 weeks ago I had 700, now I have 10001:20
macintoshrone x86, one amd64 and one PPC...01:20
ojtE: /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org2-core_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4_i386.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive01:20
meatwad65i didn't know it was embedded that easily01:20
germanPnp: PnPACPI:Method_Name__CRS Failure for PNP0c0201:21
Seveasojt, sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install openoffice.org201:21
germanand01:21
LjLfruud: just hold on some minutes, i've got to install the kde devs package to compile that stuff01:21
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ojtseveas,ok01:21
fruudaight :)01:21
fruudnp np01:21
fruudty for helping LjL01:21
fruud(Y)01:21
germanPnp: PnPACPI: Method_name__CRS Failure for PNP0c0101:21
ghostfreeman_How do I enable the VNC service from a secure shell?01:21
Seveasgerman, hmm, sounds like a buggy bios01:22
Seveasdoes it end there or does it still continue to start up?01:22
germanit ends there01:22
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germanthen it starts with [OK] 01:22
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ojtseveas,here's the result01:23
germanlike... doing stuff..........................[OK] 01:23
ojtseveas,openoffice.org2: Depends: openoffice.org2-core (> 1.9.129) but it is not going to be installed01:23
Seveasojt, apt-get install openoffice.org2-core01:23
Seveasoutput on the pastebin01:23
ojtseveas,ok01:23
Seveasgerman, and no more than that?01:23
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seth_k|lappyAnyone know how to get phpEclipse working with Breezy's 3.1.1ubuntu1 Eclipse packages? The wiki instructions don't work01:24
germanSeveas, no, just those 2 lines, then everyting is normal01:24
ArnoudDeVriesAnyone who got mod_mono installed on 5.10 with apache2?01:24
germanbut im worried about thjose 2 lines01:24
ojtseveas,can i ask what's the cause of these erors?01:25
Seveasgerman, try bootng with acpi=off as kernel parameter01:25
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Seveasojt, yes you can, but I don't know01:25
Seveasthat's why I requested the output of that command ;)01:25
LjLfruud: you're using the wrong version of KNifty, you need this one: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=884101:25
meatwad65does anyone know why pan development died? i thought it was the best newsreader01:25
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germanSeveas, it like you're talking chinesse to me :P01:26
Seveasmeatwad65, it's slowly creeping out of a standstill01:26
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fruudwill it work for me with the other one i said to ya i really wanted to ? if u find a working verison :)01:26
LjLgerman: while GRUB is visible before booting, follow the instruction to "edit the command line", and add "acpi=off" to that command line01:26
sockpuppe1what is the command to fond out whats running on a certain port?01:27
Seveasgerman, paste the file /boot/grub/menu.lst on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:27
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fruudLjL, this one  ( http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12330 )01:27
Seveassockpuppe1, sudo netstat -tlnp01:27
ojtsevas,ok thnx anyways01:27
Wellyright, i changed /etc/networking/interfaces I *think* correctly.. restarted networking and the new IP address looked to be correct as I could ping it, however I couldn't ping www.yahoo.co.uk01:27
Wellyi've looked at /etc/resolv.conf and my dns servers are set up correctly01:27
Wellydoing ifconfig showed nothing01:27
blankanyone know where I can get the limewire through apt get or the limewire tarball?01:27
LjLfruud: that one doesn't seem to have anything to do with KNifty. let me try to compile it as well01:28
Seveas!limewire01:28
ubotufrom memory, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.01:28
yaoming01:28
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fruudokey, sry for beein pain in the ass :p01:28
kbrooksis limewire prop?01:28
jvailjl.. i do this everytime during boot.. is there anyway i can make that stay, bcause i wanna add my gyrl as a user, she know sqwat about editing the boot menu01:28
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kbrooksproprietary01:28
germanthanks Seveas, ill try it01:28
sockpuppe1its opensource01:29
Tokenizeri have a second hardrive with nothing in it, made in fat32 blank.. i can't mount it using any of the following commands/utilities: fdisk , ubuntu disk manager, and mount01:29
LjLjvai: yeah, look at /boot/grub/menu.lst01:29
Tokenizerany ideas?01:29
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jvaibut when i go there i cant edit.. it's read only01:29
sockpuppe1has anyone tried frostwire01:29
fruudLjL, Still getting humooongos errors of that knifty u gave me :O01:29
sockpuppe1?01:29
n0odl3is it possible to sudo apt-get xfce?01:29
Seveasn0odl3, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop01:29
kbrooksn0odl3: add "install"01:29
n0odl3Seveas" so its xubuntu-desktop01:30
Seveasn0odl3, yeah01:30
xx94nnoooo!01:30
xx94my apt-get is still messed upp01:30
shwagmy mplayer plugin in firefox only plays streaming videos choppy. its a software issue, but i dont know how to fix it.01:30
ramblingturtlewhen trying to update my system i get an error saying that packages can not be authenticated and receive the same message when trying to install programs like gnomebaker. any ideas on what this means or how to fix it would be appericated01:30
meatwad65so there has been pan development lately?01:30
Seveasxx94, paste the errors you get on the pastebin01:30
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xx94do i need more config files01:31
Seveasmeatwad65, not much01:31
LathropWellsTokenizer - one of the nce people here created a very useful scrip called winmac_fstab to find and mount all partitions easily.01:31
meatwad65i heard there was progress back in like may but haven't heard anything since01:31
LathropWells!ntfs01:31
ubotuI guess ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions01:31
meatwad65thats a shame01:31
Tokenizerlathropwell.. actually it was an NTFS drive before that i mounted using winmac_fstab01:31
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ramblingturtlei am trying to install the programs via synaptic by the way01:31
meatwad65does anyone here use newsreaders at all?01:32
LjLfruud: install also kdebase-dev, and it should work01:32
Tokenizernow i formated it, but a line remains in /etc/fstab that says /dev/hdb1 is an ntfs drive..... i commented it, how can i remove the winmac_fstab script that i ran (i.e. undo it) and start over01:32
LjLmeatwad65: yeah, knode :)01:32
fruudoke oke .)01:32
LathropWellsTokenizer - what command are you using to mount it (syntax) and what errors are you seeing?01:32
Seveasmeatwad65, pan ;)01:32
JanCTokenizer: remove the old entry for the NTFS partition from fstab & re-run the script?01:33
foobaris there a hotkey combo to spawn a terminal?01:33
germanSeveas... it's posted01:33
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meatwad65i heard this bnr is cross-platform01:33
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meatwad65i've used it in windows before01:33
LjLfoobar: F4 in KDE, dunno in gnome01:33
meatwad65i used klibido before which seems to be the closest thing to pan01:33
xx94http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/432601:33
Tokenizeractually i did that it didn't work... what i did is that i removed the etc/fstab entry just now and went through re formating using the gnome tool at System>Admin>disks ..... now it works01:34
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Seveasgerman, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/f432701:34
ryanpghi all... the one thing preventing me from going to ubunut is the absence of xorg RC1/RC2, is it currently possible to install this package on breezy?01:34
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LathropWellsTokenizer - Thats Great :001:34
LathropWells:)01:34
Seveasspot the difference (it's marked)01:34
Seveasand edit that file01:34
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h4znhow can i plaqy wmp files on ubuntu?01:34
meatwad65what are the new xorg versions supposed to give now?01:35
ryanpgIIRC when I last looked into the issue xorg RC1 was not yet in dapper, has it made it in yet and if so could I pull that package into breezy?01:35
germanlet me check it ;)01:35
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brettI need urgent help. Something wack happend with my main account I made during installation so I deleted it and made a new one. I need to get back onto the admin panel to see something but it won't let me...what can I do?01:35
JanCfoobar: if there isn't one by default, you can set a hotkey in System-->Preferences-->Hotkeys (or something like that, non-English Ubuntu here)01:35
h4znhow can i plaqy wmp files on ubuntu?01:36
h4znhow can i play wmp files on ubuntu?01:36
brett:\01:36
Tokenizerwell.. one thing remains...... you know the window in  System>Admin>Disks ..... when i click on drive i can format it, then i can click enable......... that works and i can browse the device which is emtpy... then i try to look at fstab again, and i see no entry for /dev/hdb ..... when i click on "Computer" under places menu .... i see no icon for my drive...... how can i now add this device so that it is's usable.....01:37
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Hobbsee!tell h4zn about w32codecs01:37
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brettCan no one help?01:37
dvhartI'm having trouble getting my hplip printer to work.  The scanner works via saned and hplip, but the printer doesn't.  Cups just says it's aborting jobs, and hp-toolbox says it's "powered down or unplugged"01:37
bimberibrett: boot into recovery mode and "adduser <newuser> admin"01:38
LjLbrett: i think you just aren't in the sudoers list anymore, 'cause only the first-created user is. but i don't quite know how to solve that01:38
dvhartI've tried over both usb and network (powered down msg over network only)01:38
foobarjanc: thanks =)01:38
h4znhow can i play wmv files on ubuntu?01:38
titanium2i ssh to my ubuntu box using Putty (from windows). im running a certain program which i want to leave running all the time, so i do ./binary & to start it, and then 'exit' to logout and close putty; however since i have something running in the bg putty just sits there and i have to force-close it. is there a better way to get something to run all the time? (i already have it set to run on system startup but it crashes sometimes and i have to re-01:38
germanSeveas, so the line is kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda6 ro quiet splash acpi=off01:38
xx94*seveas* do u know what the problem is w/ myn apt01:38
germanthanks!!01:38
bretthow do I boot into recovery mode? When grub comes up?01:38
Seveasgerman, yup01:38
germanno i'll try it01:38
LjLh4zn: have you seen ubotu's replies?01:38
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Seveasxx94, did you paste the errors on the pastebin?01:38
bimberibrett: where <newuser> is the name of the new account01:38
xx94mhewh01:39
germanjust save the new file & reboot??01:39
brettwhat?01:39
bimberibrett: yes01:39
Seveasgerman, yes01:39
brettok brb01:39
xx94http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/432601:39
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xx94*seveas* did u get it?01:39
Seveaslooking...01:40
fruudhow did i open .deb files agian ? :(01:40
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bimberifruud: sudo dpkg -i <file>01:40
JulfiskCan I disable join and quit messages?01:40
Seveasxx94, woah -- looks like a server error01:41
JulfiskI use xchat01:41
meatwad65is there a way so gnome automatically activates wlan0 on startup?01:41
germanok Seveas, i'm rebooting now01:41
germanhhaa01:41
Seveasxx94, can you post your sources.list on the bin too please01:41
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xx94ok01:41
shadeofgreyhey everybody01:41
germanhope u're right01:41
NoobieDoobieDohi01:41
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shadeofgreyi need guidance...01:41
psusianyone know why configure scripts would say the compiler can not create executables?  of course it can01:41
dvhartmeatwad65, you can do that in /etc/network/interfaces01:41
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meatwad65thanks01:42
dvhartmeatwad65, it isn't really gnome's job01:42
dvhartmeatwad65, 'auto wlan0'01:42
bimberipsusi: have you installed the build-essential package?01:42
shadeofgreyanybody present have a lot of experience, otr atleast a moderate amount ofexperience turning a ubuntu installation into a powerful standalone mailserver?01:42
psusibimberi, yep...01:42
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meatwad65i wasn't sure where that was at thanks01:42
bimberipsusi: hm01:42
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jgwhrm everytime an opengl screensaver runs my entire machine locks up, except i can still move the mouse cursor01:43
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shadeofgreyif so, someone please private message me so that we can get a private dialogue going....   my boss wants me to puit togethger afully functioning mailserver using ubuntu01:43
JulfiskI can't run quake2 through wine with opengl01:43
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xx94*seveas* http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/433101:43
shadeofgreyactually he wantss meto use fedora or some other vcersion of linux01:43
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shadeofgreyi convinced him that ubuntui is a better option01:44
xx94*seveas* thats my souces.list01:44
jon_This is Brett_ I got my account back01:44
solidgrooveJulfisk, why are you using wine, get binary01:44
meatwad65should cd's automount?01:44
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shadeofgreybut unfortunately have no idea how to go about it so any help; on that front would be morw than appreciated01:44
jgwshade: its pretty much the same as any other distro01:44
shadeofgreyhry everybody01:44
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Julfisksolidgroove, I'm all new to linux in general. And I really can't get q2 work that way :p01:44
germanHi Seveas01:44
jon_I'm getting errors when I boot. Now for some odd reason it's saying "You need to be root to run this program"01:44
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shadeofgreyis the stable full version of openoffivce 2 stable available through synaptic yet?01:45
germanThanks!!01:45
Hobbseeshadeofgrey: no01:45
hav0khey, whats up with the i386 and i586 and i686 stuff?01:45
germanSeveas, my problem is solved. :)01:45
Seveasxx94, these sources work fine here at the moment, can you try 'sudo apt-get update' again to see if they work for you now01:45
Seveasgerman, cool01:45
hav0kwhat does all that mean01:45
germancan you please exlain me what i have done??01:45
LathropWellsshadeofgrey, - take a look at this article http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.04_p601:45
germanhhaha01:45
Seveasgerman, the error messages were about broken acpi stuff, so we disabled acpi01:46
bimberi!ooo201:46
ubotuTest packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html01:46
Seveasto make this permanent you need to add acpi=off to the line in menu.lst that starts with KOPT01:46
Seveasor #KOPT01:46
germanand what's broken acpi, its there any problem with my computer??01:46
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Seveasgerman, is the machine fairly old?01:47
jon_bimberi : I need to ask you a question...I'm Brett_, This is the account I deleted and recovered, my bottom bar where my trash bin and etc is; it isn't there anymore.01:47
germannop01:47
jgwis there a way to disable the screensaver via the commandline? in my settings, that is. i cant turn them off in the gui, because everytime i open the screen saver config app, the opengl preview locks my machine up01:47
_Dez!cheatcodes01:47
ubotu_Dez: What?01:47
germani just bought it a few months ago01:47
_Dezanyone know the cheatcodes for ubuntu01:47
LjLfruud: still here?01:47
Seveas_Dez, wth do you mean?01:47
_Dezi need to dissable Raid and acpi01:47
xx94*seveas* still no work ill post error in #paste ok?01:47
germanit's an Intel pentium 401:47
Seveasxx94, k01:47
Seveasgerman, hmm, that IS weird01:48
bimberijon_: right-click on the top-panel and create a new panel01:48
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jon_I did. Now it's empty.01:48
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_Dezhow do i disable -> disable Raid and acpi01:48
fruudyes, this aint goin very good...01:48
Tokenizerok.... finally got it mounted however it's readonly...... how can i set the permission to this drive called /dev/hdb/ that is empty so thta i could drag and drop files to it.... i mounted /dev/hdb to /media/hdbdrive ...... i tried chmod 777 the hdbdrive however i got permission error01:49
fruudi get errors all over again01:49
bimberijon_: now right-click on it and add applets (trash is about half way down - under Desktop & WIndows)01:49
Blippewhere is the alsa-settings? i want to check the dmix settings...01:49
germanSeveas, I've been running Win XP  with non problems at all... well maybe some virus and stuff01:49
jon_Oh k..thanks!01:49
shadeofgreyno i dont mean the test versiuon...  i mean the actual stable final release of oo.oorg201:49
bimberijon_: np :)01:49
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jon_Errors keep popping up for no reason now like this: The Application "gnome-panel" has quit unexpectedly.01:50
LissaSleepwth?!01:50
doogluswhenever I try to run an X application from the command line I see "Tried to connect to session manager, networkIdsList argument is NULL".  I googled for that string and found exactly 0 matches!01:50
LissaSleepmy laptop is working01:50
LissaSleep*boggle*01:50
jon_brb01:50
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Seveasgerman, please file a bug in http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com against the 'linux' component describing your error messages01:50
Tokenizeranyone... anyone knows how to set permission for /dev/hdb so that i could right to it? right now chmod'ing it is not working01:50
shwagmy mplayer plugin in firefox only plays streaming videos choppy. its a software issue, but i dont know how to fix it.  Can someone recommend some sort of troubleshootin method ?01:51
germani'll do that01:51
Seveasthen the developers know about the problem01:51
psusiif I wanted to use strace to see what external programs get invoked a a program... what system call do I need to trace?  -eexecve or -efork don't show any calls01:51
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Seveasalso attacht /var/log/dmesg (after *removing* acpi=off again and rebooting)01:51
germanseveas, i've nver used bugzilla before, this is my first time!! :P01:51
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Seveasgerman, *g*, ig you need help with it, just shout01:51
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walterHello. I have installed kubuntu, it went through fine. But when I try to get into X, it says 'Fatal error: no screens found' Yes yes, I have tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, trying many different drivers and settings. It still will not boot.01:52
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xx94*seveas* just pasted it01:52
walterMy specs are: AMD Athlon 64 3400+, 1 gig ram, ATI Radeon x800 gto01:52
walter:/01:52
jon_bimberi: I keep getting 2 errors when I boot onto my desktop: You need to be root to run this program....and missing command to run01:52
theinewalter, could you post /etc/X11/xorg.conf over at pastebin.com?01:53
jon_And GAIM just starts to run..01:54
theinejon_, do you get these messages right after the login screen?01:54
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LissaSleepwalter: You're going to have issues with it. Also make sure you're using a 64 build of ubuntu.01:54
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bimberijon_: i'm not sure sorry, any clues as to what program, then you can look for what's calling it01:54
LissaSleepit's an issue w/ ATI chipsets01:54
jon_theine: Yes, right when I boot into my system the errors start.01:54
Seveasjon_, system -> preferences -> sessions01:54
Seveas3rd tab (starup programs)01:54
theinejon_, see above...01:55
h4znLjL, yes01:55
jon_Alright i'm there.01:55
h4znbut they still dont work01:55
_Dezhow do i disable -> disable Raid and acpi01:55
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Seveas_Dez, acpi=off on the commandline01:55
Seveasand disable the various initscripts for raid/evms etc...01:55
jon_So now what?01:55
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doogluspsusi: execve01:55
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Seveasjon_, *kernel* commadn line, sorry01:55
Seveaswhich means: editing /boot/grub/menu.lst01:56
jon_What does that mean? I just got my Linux system up yesterday01:56
psusidooglus, I tried strace -eexecve, didn't show any calls01:56
psusijust a bunch of SIGCHLDs01:56
doogluspsusi: I did a test case using "find -exec".  I needed to use "strace -f" for some reason to see the execve.  look: $ strace -f find . -type f -exec /bin/ls -l '{}' ";" 2>&1 | grep ' exec'01:56
dooglus[pid  7097]  execve("/bin/ls", ["/bin/ls", "-l", "./10000"] , [/* 36 vars */] ) = 001:56
psusihrm...01:56
Melissa83walter: What worked for me was using the VESA drivers01:56
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fendermanhi everybody :)01:57
doogluspsusi: why don't I see the execve call if I don't use the -f flag to strace?01:57
psusibeats me01:57
Melissa83walter: Plus my laptop is EXTREMELY sensitive as to screen resolution. Also, I'm told that the CVS of Xorg supports the ati chipsets, so i'm working on getting those.01:57
bimberiSeveas: last 2 lines posts meant for _Dez (not jon_)?01:57
SGershon:P I've installed ApachePHP and mySQL. How can I make them work together?01:57
ojtseveas,thnx a lot01:57
jon_Ok...01:57
pdki came to ask again01:57
ojtseveas,it works01:57
jon_So, i'm in the sessions and now what? How can I get theese errors to stop?01:58
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pdkif anyone has any idea what's up with this error i get everytime i try to run the ubuntu install cd on this old comp i have01:58
pdkor any linux livecd for that matter :\01:58
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bimberijon_: anything listed in the startup programs tab?01:58
xx94*seveas* got big error once more01:58
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fendermani have the dumbest question but please help me, how can i learn to use ubuntu? i mean command line and all01:58
Seveasbimberi, nice catch :|01:58
xx94*seveas* other error in #paste01:58
pdki wrote a log of one of my attempts if it helps01:58
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PhuzionHow do I make a user have full access in /var/www01:58
bimberiSeveas: go to bed! :P01:59
psusiAHA!01:59
jon_No. But GAIM starts up and 2 errors pop up. And when I was trying to add more panels to the panel and error kept coming up when I came half way down01:59
psusiomg... it's trying to link an elf-i386 image.. no wonder it is failing01:59
Melissa83fenderman: http://www.linuxcommands.org01:59
ArnoudDeVriesanyone using mod_mono with apache2?01:59
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psusinow WTF is it doing that?01:59
Seveasxx94, are you behind some sort of filering procy perhaps?01:59
doogluspsusi: I think that clone() is the system call you need to look for01:59
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anavimwhat is bendy?01:59
PhuzionArbiydDeVries, what do you need, just to install it?01:59
fendermanthanks melissa, i'll check that for sure but is there a book or something more "straight foreward" that you can recommend02:00
ArnoudDeVriesyes tried installing it but getting error 50302:00
preglowthere used to be a package for the x nvidia driver, yes? can anyone remember what it is/was called? i upgraded to breezy and my x doesn't take too kindly to me anymore02:00
psusidooglus, I didn't really want the fork... execve is what I was looking for... shows the command line it passed to ld02:00
psusiand it's telling ld to make an elf-i386 image for some reason02:00
psusiwhich is probably why it is failing02:00
_Dezhow do i disable RAID and ACPI when booting?>02:00
PhuzionArnoudDeVries, you modded apache2.conf, correct?02:00
ArnoudDeVriesyes02:00
Melissa83fenderman: Well, for more advanced reading (and not a bad book either if you can stomach it) is "Unix: In a Nutshell"02:00
theinepsusi, what kind of image do you want to generate?02:00
eliezerhello people! i wonder if you can help me. i have two HD, one has Windows, the other one Linux. Im on the linux one right now (obvously ;) ) but Id like to transfer some of my files to the Linux HD before getting rid of the windows one. Suggestions?02:00
doogluspsusi: problem is, the process uses 'clone' to make a new process, and after that you're no longer tracing the child, so you don't see the exec.02:00
anavimis bendy the the old name for 5.10 which is now breezy?02:00
PhuzionArnoudDeVries, follow these instructions.02:00
Phuzionhttp://www.apacheworld.org/modmono/INSTALL02:00
doogluspsusi: unless you 'strace -f'02:00
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germanSeveas, tell me if it's ok02:01
ArnoudDeVriesi recompiled with debugging on and i see in the apache log errors about now finding the socket02:01
theine_Dez, for raid, sudo dpkg-reconfigure mdadm02:01
psusitheine, seeing as how I'm on amd64, I would think it should use that02:01
germani'm not english native speaker02:01
psusidooglus, right...02:01
fendermani just love ubuntu and don't want to stop using it because i don't know how to use it02:01
ArnoudDeVriesi'll take a look thanks02:01
theinepsusi, elf-i386 runs fine on AMD6402:01
jon_I KNOW WHAT IT IS!!02:01
germanI'm running an intel pentium 4 machine, with Ubuntu version 5.04, and when booting linux the appears the following:02:01
germanPnp:PnPACPI:Method_Name__CRS Failure for PNP0C0202:01
germanPnp:PnPACPI:Method_Name__CRS Failure for PNP0C0102:01
germanPlease help me!!02:01
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sexcopter8000mis it possible to control cpu scaling? mine goes down to 798mhz, but there must be instances where i can drop it even lower quite safely...02:01
anavimfenderman, so don't02:01
xx94*seveas* im not sure02:01
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doogluspsusi: it's basically a fork-and-exec, except it's using clone() instead of fork()02:01
_Deztheine what about ACPI02:01
psusitheine, yea... but I don't think the compiler can create them by default02:01
PhuzionHow do I make a user have full read/write access to /var/www?02:01
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xx94*seveas* but i run a couple servers on my box02:01
theine_Dez, take a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst02:02
jon_Last night I was doing the updates, I clicked before I logged out when I boot back into the screenname that the updates will automatically install...but they aren't02:02
dooglusPhuzion: if only one user wants access, change it to be owned by that user:  sudo chown dood:dood /var/www02:02
Phuziondooglus, will root be able to get into there too?02:02
dooglusPhuzion: root can get everywhere :)02:02
eliezerhello people! i wonder if you can help me. i have two HD, one has Windows, the other one Linux. Im on the linux one right now (obvously ;) ) but Id like to transfer some of my files to the Linux HD before getting rid of the windows one. Suggestions?02:02
PhuzionSweet.02:02
Phuziondooglus, what is the dood:dood?02:03
theine_Dez, you need to add "acpi=off" to the kopt line, i.e. replace "# kopt=root=/dev/hdX ro" by "# kopt=root=/dev/hdX ro acpi=off"02:03
jon_C'mon, no one knows how to fix this?02:03
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n0odl3how do i change my background with xfce?02:03
dooglusPhuzion: alternatively, you could use the group instead:  add your user to the www-data group (sudo adduser dood www-data) and change the group of the dir to be www-data (sudo chgrp www-data /var/www) then make it group-writable: (sudo chmod g+w /var/www)02:03
Unitionim having problems getting the dvd to run on my computer...02:03
psusiwait... I'm confused now...02:03
theinejon_, what error message are you actually getting?02:03
dooglusPhuzion: that is the username twice02:03
psusi[pid 18763]  execve("/usr/bin/ld", ["/usr/bin/ld", "--eh-frame-hdr", "-m", "elf_i386", "-dynamic-linker", "/lib/ld-linux.so.2", "/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4."..., "/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4."..., "/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4."..., "-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/usr02:03
psusi/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/lib/../lib32", ...] , [/* 53 vars */] ) = 002:03
anavimjon_, did you try to reinstall?02:03
dooglusPhuzion: I'm assuming your user is called dude02:03
Unitionim getting a black screen when it try's to boot the live dvd02:03
psusiI see that in the strace output... why is elf_i386 in there?02:04
jon_1 sec let me exit my account and relog in brb02:04
theinepsusi, elf_i386 is fine, I tell ya02:04
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doogluspsusi: is that from "strace -f"?02:04
Phuziondooglus, so it would be chown Phuzion:Phuzion /var/www?02:04
psusihrm...02:04
psusidooglus, yes02:04
eliezerim in trouble and i need help. :( //  i have two HD, one has Windows, the other one Linux. Im on the linux one right now (obvously ;) ) but Id like to transfer some of my files to the Linux HD before getting rid of the windows one. Suggestions?02:04
psusimaybe there's a better way to trace this... can you ask bash to echo commands it processes in the configure script?02:05
bimberieliezer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:05
theineeliezer, boot linux and copy them over02:05
dooglusPhuzion: yeah.  but the group thing is probably better.02:05
PhuzionAlright02:05
jgwhrm ati 9x000 vid card + opengl screensaver + ubuntu 5.10 == lockup / solution == install fglrx xorg driver, which wasnt installed by default02:05
psusithat way I can just look at what configure is running, not all the grand children02:05
theinepsusi, look at config.log02:05
dooglusPhuzion: 'cos then, in the future, you can add more users to the group to give them access.02:05
eliezerthe thing is that the Windows HD is not being recognized.02:05
eliezerIf im on Windows I can't see the HD with Linux.02:05
dooglusPhuzion: when the little Phuzions grow up and want websites of their own...  :)02:05
psusitheine, useless... just says configure: exit 7702:05
theinepsusi, that's the only thing it's saying??02:06
doogluspsusi: the -m is for eMulation, apparently02:06
eliezerI guess theyre not on Master/Slave configuration, I can't open my CPU to verify that because the warranty would be avoided. =P02:06
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psusitheine, well, it shows a bunch of variables it has02:06
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ryanpgso no one knows if xorg RC1 are available for breezy?02:06
theineeliezer, you need to mount the windows partition by hand then02:06
psusiit doesnot show the command it invoked that failed02:06
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_Dez.xinitrc02:06
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theinepsusi, can you paste it at pastebin.com?02:06
_Dezwhere do i change these02:06
eliezerhow can i do that theine?02:06
psusiok...02:06
doogluspsusi: "bash -x" will echo commands as it runs them02:06
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theineeliezer, which partition is your windows installation on?02:06
doogluspsusi: or "set -x" in a running bash02:06
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eliezeris not a partition, i have two HD.02:07
jon_The errors didn't pop up this time.02:07
_Dezhow do i change this .xinitrc02:07
theineeliezer, you still have at least one partition.02:07
_Dezi mean where is .xinitrc locaed02:07
jon_But I still have one more problem. Can anyone help?02:07
bimberijon_: i'm stumped (hence unresponsive) sorry :|02:07
theineeliezer, or in this case at least 2 of course02:07
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psusihttp://pastebin.com/42499802:08
eliezerok, I guess windows it's on C: and linux on D:02:08
theine_Dez, why do you want to change ~/.xinitrc ?02:08
jon_bimberi : I don't get the errors anymore, but whenever I try to add a panel it freezes...02:08
Phuziondooglus, I'm still getting my 500 request denied message.02:08
Seveasxx94, first check whether you actually use a proxy02:08
PhuzionI'm trying to make a user have full read/write access through FTP.02:08
Seveas.me off to bed now02:08
PhuzionAnd apparently it's not working.02:08
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PhuzionLater Seveas02:08
jon_Seeya02:09
theineeliezer, it's better you boot linux and ask for help then02:09
eliezerok theine. im sorry.02:09
eliezerthank you so much anyway.02:09
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theineeliezer, no worries, it'll just be easier02:09
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shadeofgreyokay guys02:09
eliezer(: fine, see ya.02:09
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shadeofgreyim going toi sign off and do abase server install of ubuntu to see what it looks like02:10
shadeofgreybe back in 45 mins or so02:10
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nebularso I'm compiling a kernel for the first time in a long time and I"m noticing that it says root device is (3,2). Does that mean the device I"m booting off of is hard coded?02:10
LathropWellseliezer - Have you tried the winmac_fstab script to find and mount all drives follow ubotu !ntfs - for windows xp to see linux formatted partitions google explore ext2fs it is a driver for windows02:10
cyphase*sigh* http://www.livejournal.com/users/bleeter/12357.html02:11
LathropWellshe left -shrug02:11
theinehe'll be back...02:11
cafuego_bleater?02:11
_Dezhow do i Get to shell from WM02:11
xx94*seveas*  no proxy02:11
theine_Dez, which WM?02:11
_Dezmvm02:11
_Deznvm*02:11
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theine_Dez, mwm?02:12
jon_bimberi: I'm getting this error: The window "Add to panel" is not responding. Forcing  this application to quit  will cause you to lose any unsaved changes.02:12
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psusiAHA!02:12
PhuzionIf a file is created by root, can it be deleted by a user that has full acceses to the directory?02:12
psusiit's the damn -m32 flatg02:12
psusiflag02:12
cusco1:11 DCC can't create file /media/storage/irc/lol.mp3: Permission denied02:12
psusiremoved that from CFLAGS in configure and it makes it past that02:12
cuscoplease02:12
psusiit looks like gcc on amd64 does not like -m3202:12
theine_Dez, left, middle. or right click on the desktop and select xterm. can't remember which02:13
bimberijon_: yes, i'm at loss to help with it sorry :/02:13
cusco/media/storage is a fat32 partition02:13
jon_Ohhh, anybody else?02:13
cuscowhich is mounted on fstab as /dev/hda5       /media/storage  vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=0222   0       002:13
bimberijon_: actually. a thought.  did you say you deleted and created the account?02:13
jon_Yes02:13
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bimberijon_: with the same name?02:13
theinepsusi, what are you actually compiling?02:14
jon_Yeah02:14
chckenseveas:do you use breezy02:14
psusitheine, grub02:14
jon_Recovery mode again?02:14
bimberijon_: ok, try this...02:14
bimberijon_: no02:14
jon_k02:14
theinepsusi, maybe you should file a bug report02:14
cuscowhat do I have to change so I can write to /media/storage/irc/ ?02:14
psusitheine, going to try and debug it to figure out why the hell it is opening /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 and looking for an MBR there when I give it a setup (hd0) command02:14
chckenseveas02:15
bimberijon_: open a terminal, "cd ..", "sudo chown -R user:user user"02:15
psusiafter I gave it a device (hd0) /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae command02:15
cuscoI chmoded the dir 777 with sudo02:15
PhuzionAre files made by root untouchable by other users, regardless of whether or not they have full access to the directory?02:15
psusibut report probably will be ignored02:15
psusiI'd rather get it working02:15
bimberijon_: where user is your username02:15
_Dezhow do i add Fluxbox to auto start on boot?02:15
theinepsusi, wrong attitude ;)02:15
chckencan anyone tell me how to install java on breezy02:15
jon_So how do I type it?02:15
psusioh, I'll file a report after I fix it02:15
psusiand include the patch02:15
psusilike I did with lilo02:15
cuscoPhuzion: how do I mount the partition so taht I can allow users to create files on it then?02:16
bimberijon_: for example   -   sudo chown bimberi:bimberi bimberi02:16
cusco/dev/hda5       /media/storage  vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=0222   0       002:16
chckencan anyone tell me how to install java on breezy02:16
theinepsusi, but anyway, I thought grub isn't even aware of device-mapper stuff...02:16
jon_so user:user pass02:16
psusitheine, it isn't... it doesn't know or care... as long as it knows which block device corresponds to which bios disk and partition02:16
Phuzioncusco, no idea02:16
chckencan anyone tell me how to install java on breezy02:16
bimberijon_: no, not the password, the username again02:16
psusiwhich I tried to explain to it with the device commands, but it doesn't seem to listen correctly02:16
LathropWells!java02:17
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb02:17
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theinepsusi, that's what i thought, so why the hell is it looking for something in /dev/mapper?02:17
anathema_!faq02:17
ubotuI heard faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation or http://help.ubuntu.com02:17
chckencan sum1 tell obotu to tell me about java02:17
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psusitheine, because I had to tell it that /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae is the block device for hd002:17
derekh!link02:17
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, derekh02:17
psusiso that it can open the disk and write the MBR02:17
derekh!list02:17
ubotuI guess list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage02:17
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theinepsusi, why did you have to do that??02:17
jon_Alright I typed: sudo chown jon:jon jon and it won't work02:18
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psusiotherwise it would be trying to open /dev/hda02:18
chcken! ubotu tell chcken about java02:18
ubotuchcken: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!02:18
bimberijon_: any error from the command?02:18
theinepsusi, which is not what you want?02:18
anathema_hey i used to be able to apt-get install azureus02:18
anathema_but its not there now02:18
jon_cannot access 'jon': no such file or dictionary02:18
anathema_any ideas why/02:18
psusino...  well, actually I do have a /dev/sda and /dev/sdb... but those are the two individual disks02:18
anathema_the faq says i can do it, along wiht ubuntu wiki02:18
psusiwhich are in a raid-002:18
bimberijon_: type "cd /home" and then try the command again02:18
theinepsusi, so where exactly do you want the mbr to be written then?02:19
Unitionanyone in here hear of anyone buying a compaq r400002:19
chckencan someone please tell ubotu to tell me about java02:19
psusitheine, /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae02:19
Hobbsee!tell chcken about javadeb02:19
Hobbsee!tell chcken about java02:19
chckenty hobs02:19
anathema_!azureus02:19
ubotumethinks azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo02:19
jon_bimberi_: It worked02:19
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theinepsusi, i'm quite sure that's not what you want...02:19
psusiwhich will get routed by the mapper to the first sector of /dev/sda02:19
bimberijon_: great,  now see if you're still having these issues02:19
psusitheine, I'm quite sure that I do, I got lilo working that way ;)02:19
jon_So just exit the terminal?02:20
theinepsusi, what's wrong with writing the mbr to the boot sector of /dev/sda?02:20
bimberijon_: yeah, probably won't need it anymore02:20
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ph4nt0mhi people02:20
bimberijon_: what we did was make sure that everything in your home directory is owned by you02:20
psusitheine, well, for the MBR I guess it doesn't matter... but grub also needs to be able to open the /boot partition to map where the state 2 loader is02:20
jon_Crap, the add to panel error is still comin02:20
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psusiand that is /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae502:20
bimberijon_: :/ - i did have hopes for that02:21
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bimberijon_: i'm back to being stumped again sorry02:21
constantine-xviattempting to install ndis drivers, getting "operation not permitted"02:21
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theinepsusi, right, but you need to write the mbr to /dev/sda, no matter where the boot partition is02:21
jon_bimberi: Now it's saying that GNOME-Panel is exiting unsuspectively..02:21
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psusitheine, which is where it will go... sector 0 of /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae is mapped to sector 0 of /dev/sda02:22
Ceddy23hey guys02:22
constantine-xvineed help installing ndiswrapper drivers02:22
lightstarheya..anyone knows how to play mkv files in ubuntu?02:22
theinepsusi, have you actually tried writing it to /dev/sda?02:22
psusibut for grub to read the /boot partition, it can't just look on /dev/sda or /dev/sdb... it's striped between the two... it has to open /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae502:22
Ceddy23i got a problem with my winmodem drivers, can someone gimme a hand ?02:22
jon_bimberi: let me try relogging in..02:22
Hobbsee!tell constantine-xvi about ndiswrapper02:22
theinepsusi, which it cannot do since it doesn't support device-mapper...02:22
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ubuntuhello guys02:23
psusitheine, can't get it to just write the MBR... it has to place the address of the first sector of the stage 2 loader in it, so it has to map out where that is located at first02:23
Ceddy23i foundd the drivers, it's on my desktop as a .tar file but as of there, i dont know what to do02:23
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psusiit doesn't have to support device mapper... it just opens the block device02:23
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psusithe problem is telling it which is the proper block device it should be opening02:23
jon_bimberi: nope...02:23
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psusithe device command is what you are supposed to use to do that if it fails to guess it correctly02:23
theinepsusi, have you tried saying root /dev/mapper/yadayade inside grub?02:24
psusionly it doesn't quite understand the commands right02:24
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constantine-xvindiswrapper functioning properly, but gives "operation  not permitted" when i do "modprobe ndiswrapper"02:24
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durtsudo modprobe ndiswrapper02:24
nebularwhat does "root device is 93,2) mean when compiling a custom kernel02:24
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psusitheine, yes, when I do that it says the partition table is corrupt... I turned on debug messages and before the error it says it is opening /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5, which is the /boot partition, not the disk itself... so it is looking for the MBR in the boot sector of the /boot partition instead02:24
Ceddy23what's a .tar file ??02:24
constantine-xvidone that02:24
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jon_bimberi: My dads account works fine....WHat if I make another account, can I still use the root password to install programs?02:25
HobbseeCeddy23: an archive, you can untar it02:25
psusitheine, this is because I gave it a device (hd,4) /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 command to tell it to use that block device for the 4th partition on hd002:25
Ceddy23how ??02:25
theinepsusi, if I were you, I would seriously consider having a seperate /boot partition not under lvm202:26
psusibut I also gave it a device (hd0) /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae command to tell it to use that device for access to the raw disk ( for the MBR ) but it isn't listening02:26
constantine-xvitranscript: "@lappy:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"02:26
psusitheine, this isn't LVM...02:26
psusiit's hardware fakeraid02:26
theinepsusi, or raid for that matter02:26
psusino can do02:26
theinepsusi, same thing I guess02:26
nickrudCeddy23, right click the file, and open with the archive manager02:26
psusithe bios raids the entire drive02:26
theinepsusi,  what about "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 /dev/sda02:27
theine"02:27
Ceddy23if they're modem drivers, should i do something special with them ??02:27
nickrudheh02:27
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psusihrm.... let me see...02:27
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nickrudCeddy23, probably, there should be a README file inside02:28
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intelikeycommand to fix broken packages ?02:28
yaomingeverybody tell me  by firefox in linux why i cant open some page which i can open in XP by IE?02:28
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nickrudyaoming, what page?02:28
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psusimkdir: cannot create directory `/dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5/boot': Not a directory02:29
nickrudintelikey, sudo apt-get install -f usually works02:29
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Red-Soxuhoh!02:29
yaomingsome page like yahoo02:29
constantine-xvicant sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"02:29
psusitheine, --root-directory is supposed to be a directory... i.e. /boot02:29
psusiI think02:29
Red-SoxI get this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4333 when I open synaptic and all the packages are selected!02:29
constantine-xviwhat causes this?02:30
nickrudyaoming, I've got a yahoo account, firefox reads it fine02:30
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Ceddy23i tried opening it with archive manager but there's no content in it :s02:30
theinepsusi, then make an appropriate link called "boot" to /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 and specify the parent to the --root-directory option02:30
intelikeywell sudo is not installed.   and a deb has a dep that i don't seem to have installed but i have no info on it....   is there not just a command that will check all installed packages for deps ?02:30
psusitheine, no no... /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 is a block device... /boot is a directory02:30
durtconstantine-xvi: do you have linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` and your kernel headers?02:31
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Red-Soxyoaming: sorry, I just logged in...do you mean f.f. displays it funny?02:31
yaomingnickrud, i think there are some mistake in my network.02:31
Red-Soxanyone?02:31
theinepsusi, of course, so is /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 mounted anywhere?02:31
psusigrub-install's --root-directory option wants a directory, not a block device ( or link to one )02:31
constantine-xvito durt: as in packages?02:31
psusitheine, yes, in /boot02:31
durtyes02:31
nickrudRed-Sox, I'd say try updating the package list first02:31
Red-Soxnickrud: sudo apt-get update?02:31
theinepsusi, ok, the "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/ /dev/sda"02:32
nickrudintelikey, is this deb from outside the ubuntu repositories?02:32
nickrudRed-Sox, yes02:32
intelikeyno02:32
theinepsusi, what does that give you?02:32
Red-Soxokay02:32
psusi/dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.02:32
nickrudintelikey, do you get errors when trying to dpkg -i it02:32
intelikeyyes02:32
theinepsusi, which is true...02:32
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constantine-xviyes02:32
nickrudintelikey, well, we'll need to see them :) pastebin?02:33
psusitheine, well, it is true that grub does not know about it...02:33
psusibut it DOES have a corresponding bios drive02:33
yaomingmy ISP provide a URL to me for a free tv online.i can use it in XP,but i cant02:33
LathropWellsyaoming - i have no trouble with yahoo or even game sites  like boxerjam but, i have installed sun java (ubotu !javadeb will give info) and mozcontrol for flash. check ubuntuguide.org or ubotu !restricted formats02:33
psusiit's just bios disk 0x8002:33
yaomingopen it in linux02:33
Red-Soxnickrud: also, when I log into gnome, it doesnt load the panels all the way, can you help me with this?02:33
Red-SoxNickServ02:33
Red-Soxokay...thats not it02:33
psusito the bios on my system there is no disk 0x81, there is only one big disk 0x8002:33
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intelikeynick "dependancy problem prevents configuration of...."02:33
constantine-xvidurt: yes, i do have those installed, i think i needed those to compile ndiswrapper02:33
theinepsusi, well, I guess in this case it's important what grub thinks02:34
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noahanybody know what the change is that took the hostname out of new ~/.ssh/known_hosts entries?02:34
psusitheine, aye... but grub has a device command where you are supposed to be able to tell it what to think if it guesses wrong02:34
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intelikeynickrub "dependancy problem prevents configuration of...."  so it installed just didn't configure02:34
psusionly it doesn't quite work right02:34
nickrudRed-Sox, maybe, but I'm pretty brutal with bad acting panels, I tend to remove them and rebuild them02:34
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nickrudintelikey, it'll tell you what dependencies it didn't find02:34
intelikeynickrud no it didn't02:35
durtconstantine, make sure you have those restricted modules, otherwise i dont know02:35
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Red-Soxnickrud: then with sudo apt-get update, I get this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/433402:35
duke3zhiya02:35
Red-Soxhi02:35
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the_nightok here is my problem, I decided to install the fglrx binary in order that I could have 3d, now my computer will not display the resolution that I would like it to since this is a widescreen laptop, I used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set the resolutions to what I wanted, but I cannot use the one that I chose02:35
constantine-xvidurt: i do for sure02:35
nickrudah, weird. could I see the whole output? no promises, but I've screwed my system enough times to have seen a lot of errors02:35
theinepsusi, is that --device-map?02:35
psusitheine, yes, you can do it that way too02:35
the_nightthat and whenever it tries to autodetect the monitor it blacks out02:35
sudothisplease help... emergency ........ right now i restarted ubuntu, right at the very beginning of boot, I get "Grub Loading state 1.5." ... then next line it says "Grub loading, please wait...", then it says "error 15" ..... anyone knows how to fix this???? i have so much stuff on that computer which i can't afford to lose.... please help02:36
nickrudRed-Sox, do you have synaptic open?02:36
intelikeyit may be a pakage that is install just not configured yet....   you think ?02:36
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yaomingyesterday i stop my IPV6 ,but i still cant open some page02:36
theinepsusi, and you tried "device /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 /dev/sda" or what?02:36
the_nightanyone have any ideas?02:36
intelikeywhat is that dpkg command to reconfigure all ?02:36
yaomingps:i am in china02:37
nickrudintelikey, as root, did you do apt-get install -f?02:37
theinepsusi, what was /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 mapped onto again?02:37
psusitheine, yes... I gave it two device commands... one for the disk, and one for the partition, like this:02:37
psusidevice (hd0) /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae02:37
intelikeynot apt   dpkg ?02:37
duke3zman i can't understand root on ubuntu yet02:37
psusidevice (hd0,4) /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae502:37
durtconstantine-xvi: are you sure that ndiswrapper.ko exists in that directory?02:37
duke3zis the a good page for that someplace?02:37
intelikeyi'll have to install apt first.02:37
the_nightso no one has any ideas?02:38
constantine-xvihold please02:38
theinepsusi, did it complain?02:38
psusionly when I issue the root (hd0,4) command, it tries to read the MBR from /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae502:38
nickrudintelikey, 0^0 did I read that right?02:38
psusiit only complains once I issue the root command02:38
constantine-xvidurt: most definitley02:38
theinepsusi, i don't understand why the root command even tries to read the mbr, i thought it only looks for configuration and stage files02:38
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the_nightdid anyone read my problem at least?02:39
nickrudRed-Sox, the error I see is either something else is using dpkg, or you have a stale lock. look around for an open apt-get, aptitude or synaptic session, close them, and try updating again02:39
psusitheine, it looks like it also tries to verify the MBR... if I use rootnoverify, it is ok, but then the setup command fails02:39
theinepsusi, ah, ok02:39
intelikeywhat nickrud that sudo and apt are not yet installed..... yes you read it correctly.02:39
nickrudintelikey, you manually installing all the debs or something?02:40
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the_nighthrm I guess no one did...02:40
the_nightlol02:40
nba_anybody knows how to connect to internet in red hat. thanks02:40
intelikeymanual installing some debs yes02:40
the_nightoh well thanks anyways02:40
nickrudthe_night, I did, but I don't have nvidia02:40
psusiwait a tick... hrm...02:40
intelikeydisk space is pretty tight here and i can't afford the bloat of a default server install.02:41
the_nightI dont understand, I am using ati not nvidia02:41
the_nightfglrx is ati02:41
psusisee when I edit devices.map it barfs on the (hd0,4) part... like it doesn't like to be told about partitions, only raw disks02:41
the_nightthe binary for ati02:41
psusiso I tried leaving out the device (hd0,4) command and now it says this:02:41
psusiError 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS02:41
bimberithe_night: perhaps try editing xorg.conf and adding the resolutions manually02:41
the_nightthats what is strange, it is already there... it just wont let me change it in the settings02:42
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the_nightis there a way to change to res in the terminal02:42
Red-Soxnickrud: thanks for actually responding and helping me02:42
bimberithe_night: ah, well at least i read your question :P02:42
the_nightlol thanks02:42
constantine-xvidurt: ndiswrapper.ko is -rw-r--r--, does that matter?02:42
yaomingi cant check ubuntu.org in ubuntu,but i can check it in XP!why??02:42
nickrudintelikey, I'd suggest using debian then, you can stop the install with apt, if I remember correctly02:42
theinepsusi, i'm beginning to doubt whether i'm able to help you with this in any way...02:42
intelikeynickrud nm i got it.02:42
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nickrudRed-Sox, did you get it?02:43
yaomingO_O02:43
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nickrud*at apt, or dselect, anyway, with a tiny install02:43
intelikeynickrud yeah but i don't have a debian cd i do have ub 5.4 cd   so ub it is.02:43
sudothishow can i freaking run ubuntu in diagnostic mode.... i'm getting this Grub error #15 that doesn't let me go anywhere... is there an option to boot from CD and repair? or run linux in diagnostic mode?02:43
nickrudintelikey, do you have a good net?02:43
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intelikey56k02:43
nickrudnm02:43
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Red-Soxnickrud: yes thank you soooooooooooooooooo much02:43
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ali_hi can anyone guide me in which language configuration files are written ?02:44
Red-Soxnow let me try gnome panels02:44
psusisudothis, yea, stick the cd in the drive and boot from it02:44
ali_such as /etc/network/interfaces02:44
ookamiis there a way to retrieve info from the Cache in Mozilla such as JPG's SWF's ?02:44
constantine-xvisudothis: do you have an ubuntu-live/knoppix/slax/etc...?02:44
intelikeynickrud like i said never mind i got it.....   thanks akneeway02:44
ali_how to understand these files what they are doing ?02:44
LathropWellssudothis - just curious was /var/logs  helpful?02:44
sudothispsusi, that will run the installation ....02:44
theineali_, man interfaces02:45
sudothisi want to do it as like Gentoo linux02:45
constantine-xvidurt: ndiswrapper.ko is -rw-r--r--, does that matter?02:45
theineali_, ... would be a start02:45
psusisudothis, there's an option when the cd boots for rescue mode, or you can try the livecd instead02:45
ali_theine, which language they use to write these files ?02:45
theineali_, english02:45
ali_theine, bash ?02:45
ali_theine,  i mean programming language02:45
MarcNookami: Try looking under ~/.mozilla/ to find the cache files.02:46
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psusitheine, is there a way to tell grub to use LBA mode?02:46
psusiit seems to not like the fact that /boot is above the 8 GB mark02:46
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psusibut that's only a problem for CHS mode02:46
theinepsusi, there is a --force-lba option to grub-install02:47
duke3zhas anyone isntalled cedega?02:47
bimberiali_: they're not really in a programming language, they're just formatted in a way that a program can understand when it reads it02:47
theineali_, they used an editor to write these files02:47
intelikeyhhhmm ok got to dl a few things.    be back when that finishes in about an hour.02:47
ali_bimberi, but if i want to write my own ?02:47
MarcNookami: try looking using this:   find ~/.mozilla -name 'Cache'02:47
MarcNcd to the appropriate directory and then try:    file *  to try to figure out what the files are.02:47
ali_bimberi, customized file what should i do ?02:47
theineali_, your own configuration file?02:47
bimberiali_: "man interfaces" (for example) can tell you what format that file needs to be in02:47
ookamiMarcN, i did, but i dont reconize what i see. Example:   ookami@Navi:~/.mozilla/firefox/tc3cyekp.default/Cache$ ls02:47
ookami01CC0844d01  2F38EED5d01  469B990Dd01  8175983Ed01  BF8CFE26d0102:47
sudothishow do you run this freaking thing in rescue mode? i'm at the CD boot: prompt and when i press F1, it says nothing about rescue mode02:48
ali_ok theine , bimberi02:48
ali_takecare02:48
MarcNookami: right, those are your cached html, jpg, etc files.02:48
bimberiali_ k :)02:48
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MarcNThey won't have something.jpg or index.html for names.02:48
ookamiMarcN, is there a graphical way to bring this up? im seeing this in the terminal, but i dont see it in the File Browser.02:49
bimberiookami: nautilus .mozilla02:49
MarcNookami: I don't use the filebrowser.  Beats me.02:50
ookamiThanks Bimberi and MarcN.02:50
theinepsusi, "help setup" inside the grub shell contains some useful information I guess02:50
constantine-xvionce again, can anyone tell me why modprobe is giving me a "operation not permitted" when i try to install ndiswrapper?02:50
theineconstantine-xvi, try "sudo modprobe ..."02:50
constantine-xvii have02:50
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bimberisudothis: rescue mode? there is "recovery mode" but that's part of the installed boot process (ie. no cd needed)02:51
chckenhow do i make the java file executable02:51
constantine-xvii also have the restricted-modules, etc.02:51
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theineconstantine-xvi, really? then maybe "dmesg | tail" tells you something more detailed02:51
chckenhow do i make the java file executable02:52
MarcNookami: you probably have a 'don't show hidden files' set in nautilus.02:52
chckenhow do i make the java file executable02:52
bimberi!repeat02:52
uboturepeat is, like, totally, Don't repeat your question every few minutes- if someone knows they will answer.02:52
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chckensrry02:52
constantine-xvi[4296693.981000]      ACPI-0508: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.BAT1._BST]  (Node dbed7c60), AE_NOT_FOUND02:52
constantine-xvi[4296723.986000]      ACPI-0362: *** Error: Looking up [Z007]  in namespace, AE_NOT_FOUND02:52
constantine-xvi[4296723.986000]  search_node dbed7d60 start_node dbed7d60 return_node 0000000002:52
constantine-xvi[4296723.986000]      ACPI-0508: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.BAT1._BST]  (Node dbed7c60), AE_NOT_FOUND02:52
constantine-xvi[4296753.990000]      ACPI-0362: *** Error: Looking up [Z007]  in namespace, AE_NOT_FOUND02:52
constantine-xvi[4296753.990000]  search_node dbed7d60 start_node dbed7d60 return_node 0000000002:52
constantine-xvi[4296753.990000]      ACPI-0508: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.BAT1._BST]  (Node dbed7c60), AE_NOT_FOUND02:52
constantine-xvi[4296783.995000]      ACPI-0362: *** Error: Looking up [Z007]  in namespace, AE_NOT_FOUND02:52
constantine-xvi[4296783.995000]  search_node dbed7d60 start_node dbed7d60 return_node 0000000002:52
constantine-xvi[4296783.996000]      ACPI-0508: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.BAT1._BST]  (Node dbed7c60), AE_NOT_FOUND02:52
theineDOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:52
Wellyeasy, constantine-xvi!02:52
gord_try right clicking the java file chcken and set its permitions there02:52
Ep|phanyhey can someone tell me how to install games with cebenga02:52
nickruddumvid, de de dum, de dum.02:52
bimberi!paste02:52
ubotuit has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text02:52
Ep|phanyi mean cedega02:52
chckengord_ok ty ill try02:52
constantine-xvii apoligize02:53
theineconstantine-xvi, that was "dmesg | tail"?? quite a few lines from that tail command...02:53
duke3zi was asking about cedega02:53
constantine-xvicorrect02:53
duke3zcan't get it to install02:53
gord_put the game cd in the drive epiphany and type cedega <install file.exe>, so like 'cedega /media/cdrom/setup.exe"02:53
Wellyhey all, trying to install fastcgi and am getting this - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/433502:53
nickrudyup 10 lines :)02:53
melodramatichi im running into a problem with ubuntu... i got an usb mp3 player.. first run went find accessing it... then i removed it to test the mp3 i put on it wanted to make change so i put it back in the usb plug.. then when i try to access it i get the following error (giving UDI is not a mountable device)02:54
ookamigot it ! thanks everyone02:54
constantine-xviam i totally screwed over?02:54
theinehmm, i was sure tail -n defaults to 5...02:54
theinebut obviously i'm wrong02:55
psusiAHA!02:55
psusihad to tell grub the right geometry with the geometry command02:55
psusinow it sees partitions!02:55
kbrosnanI am looking for a set of directions to boot ubuntu from a floppy02:55
theineconstantine-xvi, I never seen the error message you're getting when having root priviliges02:55
chckengord_: ok i did that how should i go about installing it now02:56
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gord_are you trying to install java itself?02:56
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constantine-xvitheine: i'll re-run it to be sure, this time in #flood02:56
chckenya i need to install java02:56
melodramaticdo i need to completly reinstall ubuntu?02:57
psusitheine, ok... setup says it worked02:57
theineconstantine-xvi, ok, shoot02:57
gord_http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76702 will guide you through installing java02:57
constantine-xvitheine: in #flood02:57
theinepsusi, nice02:57
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psusitheine, so now the stage 1 and 2 loaders should be set up right?  don't I need to edit my menu config now or something?02:57
chckenty i will try that02:57
theineconstantine-xvi, show me the modprobe message including the command02:58
bimberiWelly: you need to enable the multiverse repository02:58
Wellybimberi: yep.. just done that now.. thanks!02:58
bimberiWellark: k :)02:58
theinepsusi, better take a look at menu.lst and check whether everything seems fine...02:58
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constantine-xvitheine: have posted in #flood02:58
psusihrm... menu.lst should be in /boot/grub right?02:59
Nihil85hallo02:59
theinepsusi, yes02:59
walterguys, having problem booting X. says screens not found02:59
walter=002:59
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psusiit's not there ;)02:59
theineconstantine-xvi, how did you install ndiswrapper?02:59
Melissa83walter: You're going to have issues with it. Also make sure you're using a 64 build of ubuntu.02:59
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=== Melissa83 has been having same issues with the Turion64/Ati X 200M
walteri am02:59
Melissa83it's an issue w/ ATI chipsets03:00
theinepsusi, try update-grub03:00
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Melissa83walter: What worked for me was using the VESA drivers03:00
constantine-xvicompile, as shown on the ubuntu wiki03:00
waltervesa freezes me03:00
theinepsusi, it generates one for you03:00
Melissa83walter: Plus my laptop is EXTREMELY sensitive as to screen resolution. Also, I'm told that the CVS of Xorg supports the ati chipsets, so i'm working on getting those.03:00
waltervga doesnt work either03:00
constantine-xvitheine: compile, as shown on the ubuntu wiki03:00
psusikick ass03:00
Inv_arpjust added xfce4, how do i make it default desktop?03:00
walterive also tried lowest possible reso etc03:00
walternothing works03:00
walteri am afraid i might just use another distro heh03:00
theineconstantine-xvi, isn't ndiswrapper included in the restircted-modules package?03:00
walterothers work fine03:00
Melissa83walter: lowest possible res does not necessarly mean it's a good choice03:00
walterwell03:00
Melissa83walter: i HAVE to use 1280x768 NOTHING else works03:00
psusiok... now ot add the magic kernel command line parameters03:01
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walterive used just about every reso my monitor can handle03:01
Melissa83walter: Also, try getting the latest CVS from xorg03:01
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theineconstantine-xvi, it fails because something went wrong during the compilation03:01
Melissa83Supposedly it works ootb03:01
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xbox_skyHi guys! sorry I just started to use ubuntu (like today) Im trying to get those w32 codecs, I've tried to do it trough synaptic (nothing on search except mime32) and nothing on the terminal either, im I doing something wrong ( remember im NEW)03:01
Melissa83walter: There are NO other distros that will work. SuSe doesn't work, Fedora doesn't work, NONE of them do03:01
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seth_k|lappyxbox_sky, you'll need to add repositories from the PLF03:02
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seth_k|lappyxbox_sky, you know how to add repos?03:02
walteractually, i installed mepis and it worked fine. so did gentoo03:02
xbox_skyseth, i've already done that03:02
walter=003:02
xbox_skyseth, yup03:02
yahyaxbox_sky: it's not there in the official repos03:02
Melissa83walter: It's because of the ATI chipset. You could try grabbing the ATI proprietary driver from ati's website03:02
seth_k|lappyoh, good. That's all you need then03:02
seth_k|lappythen just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install w32codecs03:02
seth_k|lappy@ xbox_sky03:02
Melissa83walter: really? interesting. I was told X won't work with the ati junk (course that may just be my specific chipset)03:02
theineconstantine-xvi, nevermind, i see there are appearently good reasons for compiling ndiswrapper under ubuntu...03:02
xbox_skyhold on m803:02
walterthe thing that gets me03:02
walteris on other distros, the same drivers i pick in ubuntu03:03
walterwill work03:03
psusihrm.. ok, menu.lst looks alright... wish me luck03:03
walterodd03:03
gord_iv got a rather old ati card n x has allways worked fine for me. they put the rage chips (what i use) in everythin too03:03
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_Dezeveyone ever install fluxbox?03:03
PhuzionWhat is the command to rename a directory?03:03
mustard5ubotu: tell xbox_sky about w32codecs03:03
_Dez!fluxbox03:03
ubotuhmm... fluxbox is forked off blackbox and is found at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net, or the new blackbox, with antialias, better menu, etc.03:03
Melissa83gord_: I'm using the XPress 200M chipset. One of ATI's newest, it doesn't work03:03
bimberiPhuzion: mv03:04
gord_Phuzion: mv <old directory name> <new directory name>03:04
PhuzionNo preceding /?03:04
gord_oh yea, new ati chipsets are an arse -_-03:04
seth_k|lappyPhuzion, it's implied03:04
gord_not unless you want to move it somewhere else03:04
PhuzionAlright, sweet, thanks.03:04
seth_k|lappyoh preceding03:04
walterwhy is it that my card has no problem in any other distros? even debian based03:04
waltermakes no sense03:04
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nickrudwalter, you might try filing a bug, and possibly the problem could be tracked down03:05
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walterok03:06
walteri might take that route03:06
chckengord_it said to do fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin and then it said fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin03:06
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Inv_arphow does one change the default window manager?03:06
mustard5walter, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com just for your future reference if you need it :)03:06
nickrudheh03:06
xbox_skyLathropWells,Mustard5 and seth_k|lappy Thanks a lot guys for your help :)03:07
chckengord_: it said to do fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin and then it said fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin03:07
mustard5xbox_sky, np03:07
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LathropWellsWindows users "linux community" - ;)03:07
gord_how do you meen 'said'?03:07
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blankhey guys03:08
chckengord_: when i typed that in terminal it said fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin command not found03:08
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blankI just got a new drive for ubuntu (40 gigs)03:08
blankand I have another 40 gigs03:08
wimirc://irc.101-freedom.org/03:08
blankI've already set them up right03:08
gord_you will need to add the extra repositorys chcken03:08
blankbut I'd like to install ubuntu on the second03:08
chckengord_: how do i do that03:08
blankwill the installation be the same?03:09
mustard5ubotu: tell chicken about repos03:09
gord_open up synaptic and goto the repositorys menu, click edit or settings or something like that and press the 'show disbaled sources' or somethin bout that03:09
bimberiInv_arp: sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager03:09
blankmustard5: you forgot the ! in the front03:09
gord_then just press ok and check the boxes that have magically apeared03:09
escaniohi, how i can recover from a mbr crash in a dual installation?03:09
blank:)03:09
escanioLILO/GRUB?03:09
mustard5blank it worked :)03:09
duke3zdang it, i got to root in console and now cannot install cedega.  man thier instructions kinda stink.03:09
gord_you'll need to do "sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common" again03:09
blanko :D03:09
mustard5blank, it went to him as a PM03:09
mustard5blank, assuming he is registered03:10
edoardohi gals, hi dudes : )03:10
mustard5welcome edoardo03:10
bimberimustard5: nick typo tho (no i)03:10
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edoardoyou guys, i'm the author of an audio conversion script named audio-convert. you might have read about it in the ubuntu forums. anyway, it's becomin' really popular lately. would anyone help me make a .deb? it's two files only, so it's probably not that hard. anyone? thankyou! : )03:10
Nihil85hi guys, at this moment i have a lot of problems:i cannot run properly the "desktop bar" (the bar with the button view desktop, the list of programs running, etc), it refuses to start! I've also a lot of other problems, but mainly i wanted to solve this because now i cannot run two apps at the same time03:10
mustard5bimberi,03:10
mustard5bimberi, doh03:10
mustard5ubotu: tell chcken about repos03:10
mustard5;)03:11
chckengord_: is it the one in packages that says repositories03:11
MarcNanyone using amarok in dapper?  I tell it to 'Build Collection', but never seems to do it.03:11
bimberimustard5: it's got me before too :)03:11
Razor-Xedoardo: hmmm, what can the script do?03:11
chckenhey yall g2g watch suvivor yaya03:11
Razor-Xedoardo: I do all my audio conversion by hand, so that script sounds interesting03:12
nickrudedoardo, the guys to ask about that are in #ubuntu-motu03:12
mustard5chcken, cya03:12
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edoardonickrud, thankyou dude! : )03:12
nickrudor Razor-X :)03:12
Razor-X:P03:12
MarcNchcken: survivor just ended here.  Wanna know who leaves? ;-)03:12
Inv_arpbimberi: thx03:12
Razor-XOMG, don't tell me... it's... Anakin Skywalker!03:12
LathropWellsedoardo -i would look in debian.org or the linux documentation project. tldp.org03:12
bimberiInv_arp: np :)03:12
edoardoRazor-X, here's the link: http://freshmeat.net/projects/audio-convert03:12
gord_edoardo: does your script do a lot of files at once? iv been meening to convert my mp3 collection to ogg for a long time but have been put off because the only auto things i can find don't copy over the ide info03:12
Razor-X``I'm sorry to say Mr. Vader, but you've been kicked off the island''03:13
Nihil85hi guys, at this moment i have a lot of problems:i cannot run properly the "desktop bar" (the bar with the button view desktop, the list of programs running, etc), it refuses to start! I've also a lot of other problems, but mainly i wanted to solve this because now i cannot run two apps at the same time03:13
Razor-Xgirl in squeaky voice: ``I hated the way he choked me after I professed my love for him''03:13
LathropWellsgord_ isn't there a dir2ogg script?03:13
edoardogord_, it does that, very easily. it even copies the metatags on to the new files. follow the link and you'll find out! : )03:13
Razor-Xsorry, couldn't resist, getting back on topic :)03:13
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jvailol03:13
dreadnoughtsomeone help me with downloading a java client03:13
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dreadnoughti no03:14
psusiwoohoo, got it working!03:14
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Razor-Xuggghh, there's another problem03:14
mhzhi03:14
gord_iv no idea mr LathropWells, if i did id i wouldn't have a load of mp3s ;)03:14
Razor-Xhow would you get rxvt to copy to clipboard?03:14
psusiI actually didn't have the menu.lst quite right... it forgot about the initrd, and set the root device wrong03:14
LathropWellsbadcomputer.no-ip.com/linux/dir2ogg/dir2ogg.bot - <-- this is what i remember.03:14
Razor-Xgord_: look at a few basic shell scripting tutorials and you've got yourself a script03:14
psusibut that's awesome that grub lets you edit the config during boot to fix that03:15
mhzSuddenly, my app. fonts look much bigger than they used to, on my laptop. Any ideas why?03:15
jvaijava + ubuntu not probable03:15
Razor-XI have a script I use to convert all my FLACs to WAV in a similar fashion03:15
Melissa83how do i boot straight to console mode?03:15
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mustard5Nihil85, have your gnome applets gone too?03:15
dreadnoughtbob2: u on?03:15
mc|ambcould anyone correct this for me please::  sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xconf03:15
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=== Melissa83 blinks at Razor-X
LathropWellsdir2ogg.py03:15
Razor-Xdo I need xsel or xclip for rxvt to interface with the clipboard? :(03:15
edoardowell audio-convert is pretty cool. and it looks cool. and it does its job well and fast. *with* progress bars : )03:15
meatwad65dpkg-reconfigure03:15
Razor-XMelissa83: hmmm?03:15
dreadnoughtcould some one give me the java link please03:15
bimberiubotu tell dreadnought about java03:15
gord_i would Razor-x, but looking at shell scripting (what is it like modifyed perl?) after using python for so long is like poking myself in the eye with rusty forks03:15
Nihil85mustard5, gnome applets? i have "only" lost my desktop bar, but i don't know what are the gnome applets03:16
Inv_arpbimberi: i added xfce4 but i dont see it in the selection03:16
dreadnoughtthanks03:16
Inv_arpfor update-alternatives --config x-window-manager03:16
Razor-Xgord_: I've never used perl, and it doesen't take much to learn03:16
cuscocd irssi03:16
Razor-Xif you use xSH often, that is03:16
dreadnoughtmaybe it will work this time03:16
meatwad65i never used perl03:16
LathropWellsedoardo - sounds good. -progrees bars are handy if you are converting dozens of files03:16
meatwad65last job learned most of it in 2 days03:16
nickrudMelissa83, delete S13gdm in /etc/rc2.d03:16
PhuzionHow do I get a directory password protected by Apache?03:16
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gord_don't take much time to learn howto poke yourself int he eye with rusty forks, don't meen you should do it though ;)03:16
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mustard5Nihil85, well I'm not sure what it is you are describing, but I'm thinking you are talking about the bottom bar on your deskto that shows which apps are in the current workspace03:17
nickrudMelissa83, or better yet, rename it to K13gdm, so you can put it back when you want03:17
meatwad65i learn languages on necessity03:17
Nihil85mustard5, yes03:17
Razor-Xgord_: I use pretty much the same syntax, it took me a bit of googling to learn the bits of shell scripting I need03:17
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mhzmc|amb: dpkg-reconfigure03:17
Razor-Xlike when I wanted to craft a script to automaticall save screenshots to a specified filename03:17
dreadnoughtwill someone walk me through it?03:17
LathropWellsgord_ - are you familiar with zenity - add nicely drawn dialog boxes to any script.03:17
Razor-X*automatically03:17
bimberiInv_arp: xfce may not be considered to be a "window manager" (although i get confused about those things).  See if it is in the Session menu of your login screen03:17
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_Dezdoes ubuntu have gkrellm03:17
dreadnoughti cant seem to find it in synaptic03:17
Inv_arpbimberi: k03:17
mustard5Nihil85, I believe its an applet called 'window list'03:18
Nihil85mustard5, but this is not the only problem... i'm going mad, i have an half dozen of problems03:18
mc|ambmhz, thanks03:18
mhznp03:18
mustard5Nihil85, do you have a bottom bar, but now apps show on the bottom bar?03:18
gord_its the actual code not the result that puts me off shell scripting, python is very powerfull too so i just use that when i need to03:18
Nihil85mustard5, so i have to run a terminal and load window list?03:18
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mustard5Nihil85, no, you right click on the bottom bar in an empty spot somewhere and 'add applet'03:19
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meatwad65anyone know how to get audio previews in nautilus to work?03:19
mustard5Nihil85, look for 'window list'03:19
Nihil85mustard5, yes. i have lost the "desktop button" (the button to show desktop) and even if i chrge an app, it doesn't show in the bar03:19
dreadnoughtuh how do you do it?03:19
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meatwad65wine...i haven't used that in years03:20
mustard5Nihil85, I'm thinking that your gnome-applets are not working or the settings have gone wacky for some reason03:20
Razor-Xmeatwad65: I hear it's making leaps and bounds recently03:20
mustard5Nihil85, try what I suggested above anyway and tell me if it works03:20
dreadnoughtwhere is the Blackdown Java 1.4 installer03:20
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Nihil85mustard5, i cannt find window list in the session manager03:20
dabaRhow do I run something in a terminal, and then make it not close when I close the terminal?03:20
Razor-Xhmmm, anyone here use xclip or xsel?03:20
Nihil85*system manager03:20
mustard5Nihil85, I didnt say sessin manager :)03:21
nickruddabaR, disown03:21
Razor-XdabaR: foo &03:21
wickedpuppydabaR, &03:21
Razor-Xwhere foo is the name of a program03:21
mustard5Nihil85, no, you right click on the bottom bar in an empty spot somewhere and 'add applet'03:21
dabaRnope, that dies with the terminal. Answer: nohup appname&03:21
gord_meatwad65: it recently finally got its 'beta' status so i thought id give it another whirl03:21
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mustard5Nihil85, 'add to panel' is the option soz03:21
dreadnoughtwowo comeon guys03:21
nickrudhm, I disown gedit all the time :)03:22
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dabaR& is just run in background.03:22
Razor-XdabaR: yeah, exactly03:22
ptlodabaR, nohup something &03:22
Nihil85mustard5, eheheh: what's its name in italian? there's no window list and no near meanings03:22
Razor-Xi'ld help you better if you ran ZSH, but, I can't soo...03:22
dabaRnohup means dont hang up the program when I close the terminal.03:22
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meatwad65gord: i heard the same thing03:22
ptlooh, you've already answered that, sorry :/03:22
mustard5Nihil85, hehe..hmmmm..I don't know in italian :)03:22
meatwad65i just don't have much use anymore because not many apps i need03:22
dreadnoughtany admin free to help me?03:22
Nihil85mustard5, me too!03:22
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meatwad65used to be all the apps i loved were windows only03:23
dabaRdreadnought: for what?03:23
dreadnoughtdownloading damn java again03:23
dreadnoughtbtw im mgdam03:23
dabaRdreadnought: and what is "admin" mean?03:23
meatwad65i actually wish i could have amarok on windows compared to itunes03:23
dreadnoughtdiff name03:23
dabaRhi mgdam:)03:23
wickedpuppydreadnought, blackdown is in repos ...03:23
dreadnoughthi03:23
Melissa83heya mustard5! ^_^ Would you believe that i totally hosed X again last night?03:23
dabaRI installed java on your computer before:)03:23
dreadnoughthuh03:24
gord_yea i know, but i have a loooot of games sitting on my shelf that iv not played in years for not using windows ;)03:24
dreadnoughtstillll????03:24
meatwad65i don't think wine fixes taht03:24
dabaRstill what?03:24
mustard5Melissa83, I can believe that :)  I am good at busting my box too ;)03:24
meatwad65you need cedega03:24
mustard5Melissa83, did you try installing ati?03:24
meatwad65or formerly winex03:24
Melissa83mustard5: Installing ATI is what hosed it, even after reloading back-ed up config it was shot03:24
dabaRdreadnought: what did you do so far, have you gotten the .deb file yet?03:24
gord_depends, its really come on latly. directX apis are being impliemtned a bit now03:25
Nihil85mustard5, ok, i've found it. the meaning is another... i had to try every apps!!!03:25
dreadnoughtdabaR: administration duh03:25
gord_n if the game is opengl then your pritty much set03:25
Melissa83mustard5: Finally got it up again, and changed something (think i was messing with network settings), and X was hosed again03:25
dreadnoughtuh i got to the site ubotu got me to03:25
meatwad65oh cool gord03:25
dabaRdreadnought: ya, but what do you need an administration person for installing Java...03:25
meatwad65directx is so evil :(03:25
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mustard5Melissa83, yeah ati can be a bit of a headache.  I believe that is why nalioth was trying to encourage you to use VESA instead :)03:25
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dabaRdreadnought: show me the output of cat /etc/issue03:25
Melissa83so i went through the install again, figured i would start fresh since i at least knew how to get X up again, but for some reason the isntall was hosed. Then i get home from work, and it works *boggle*03:25
meatwad65i just wish there was a decent cross platform api03:25
dreadnoughttheyre ususally were prolific in linux03:25
gord_specially what its doing to opengl in vista...03:25
dreadnoughtan=d they help03:25
Nihil85mustard5, the name I gave to the desktop area are lost. why?!?!?03:25
meatwad65yeah opengl is gonna be dead03:25
mustard5Nihil85, good work :)03:25
yahyahow can I get a list of all packages from a particular repository?03:26
meatwad65all the vid cards are driven by directx more so than opengl now03:26
mustard5Nihil85, your workspace switcher probably got reset too, its an applet as well03:26
gord_allthough if they keep it up, i can hardly see the european courts standing for it.. the american ones might let it side though which is just as bad03:26
dabaRyahya: what repository? look in synaptic...03:26
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meatwad65i had to buy a new vid card just to play battlefield 203:26
dreadnoughtdabaR?03:26
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meatwad65but if it was opengl i could have played it at least03:26
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dabaRdreadnought: open a terminal, and type: cat /etc/issue, and tell me what that told you.03:26
meatwad65pixelshaders are just bad imo03:27
yahyadabaR: I just added a new repos.. I'm just curious and want to browse what's avilable there03:27
mustard5Nihil85, did you uninstall gnome-applets at some stage?03:27
dreadnoughtokkkkkkkk03:27
gord_nah, opengl is a specification so the card makers make their own drivers. much more preferable than hoping that there will be an ok directx implientattion03:27
Nihil85mustard5, no, i haven't03:27
gord_pixelshaders rock until you realise that your card can't do them -_-03:27
dabaRyahya: its a http site, maybe you can browse it on the web somewhere. What repository? is it a ubuntu one?03:27
meatwad65at least with opengl we have a shot at having gamlees playab03:27
meatwad65*playable03:28
meatwad65my laptop keyboard keeps messing up03:28
yahyadabaR:  no it's the PLF one, i couldnt' find a list on their site03:28
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gord_sticky keys? i ain't sayin nothin...03:28
dreadnoughti have hoary but here u go  mgdam@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/issue03:28
dreadnoughtUbuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l03:28
dreadnoughtmgdam@ubuntu:~$03:28
dabaRyahya: just enable only that repo, and reload your package list.03:28
wickedpuppymeatwad65, gord_ guys this chan is for ubuntu support ... pls go to #ubuntu-offtopic03:28
meatwad65oops03:28
dabaRdreadnought: no need to paste more than one line of that. Also, if you paste more than one line, please use the paste.ubuntulinux.nl site.03:29
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gord_sorry :) mistake03:29
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dabaRdreadnought: ok, thanks. now read what ubotu tells you, and get a java file from there.03:29
dreadnoughtwow ur a sweet kid ya know03:29
duke3zcould some please send me a link to using sudo to install cedega 5.0?03:29
yahyadabaR: yeah i guess.. I was hoping there might be a more elegant command or something :P03:29
wickedpuppyduke3z, you bought cedega ?03:29
duke3zya03:29
Toma-duke3z: is it the tar ball?03:29
wickedpuppyduke3z, call transgaming for support ?03:29
duke3zno .deb03:29
duke3znot yet03:30
meatwad65can't you just do sudo dpkg -i file.deb?03:30
wickedpuppywhy not do so now ?03:30
Toma-duke3z: sudo dpkg -i cedega.blah.deb03:30
dreadnoughthow do i get the blackdown thing03:30
duke3zthank you Toma03:30
BeGuduke3z, how much did cedega cost?03:30
wickedpuppynext we be supporting for MS Office ....03:30
duke3z5 bucks a month03:30
BeGuwell that's not much03:31
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meatwad65i used to pay for winex03:31
Inv_arpbimberi: ok just learned that xfwm4  (was in the listing) is actually xfce4,   xfce4 is the environment, xfwm4 is the wm for the xfce4 environment...  thx for your help03:31
dabaRdreadnought: get the one for hoary, please.03:31
duke3zand thankjs meatwad03:31
Razor-Xewww, xfwm03:31
dreadnoughtdabaR: HOW?03:31
Razor-Xthat sounds so much like xfvwm03:31
Razor-Xthat's name hell for ya03:32
meatwad65no problem duke3z good luck with cedega03:32
dabaRdreadnought: ubotu told you, read you rprivate messages.03:32
Razor-Xerrr, fvwm, mind you03:32
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dreadnoughtlast time i did this it was down03:32
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dreadnoughtand it still is03:32
GarrettGood evening.03:32
wickedpuppydreadnought, what was down ?03:32
bimberiInv_arp: np, thanks feeding back -> into personal knowledgebase :)03:33
Toma-cedega 5.0 looks pretty nice. almost nice enough to buy03:33
dreadnoughtthe link u always give me\03:33
meatwad65does anyone know what could cause my notebook keyboard to mess up?03:33
duke3zomg thanks so much it worked guys03:33
wickedpuppydreadnought, the link is down? what link .... paste here03:33
BeGuis there going to be any problems with those SonyBMG's albums for ubuntu users?03:33
GarrettHave a GRUB/dual booting question for anyone that could help me.03:33
meatwad65it keeps either switching windows or going back in the sentence i'm typing and it messes everything up03:34
dabaRwickedpuppy: he wants to install java.03:34
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Razor-XGarrett: shoot03:34
meatwad65like i'll be typing and it will just move the cursor somehow03:34
MarcNBeGu: I seriously doubt it.03:34
gord_the breezy customisation guide is down, maybe he meens that03:34
wickedpuppydabaR, i know .. and i wanna know which link is down ... since all the links he got are from the bot03:34
Razor-XGarrett: I like to think of myself experienced with GRUB, only because I have most of the GRUB manual committed to memory :)03:34
dabaRwickedpuppy: !javadebs links are down.03:35
dreadnoughtpaste what the link?03:35
GarrettUbuntu is on IDE (hda1), Windows is on SATA (sda1).03:35
MarcNBeGu: a coworker had some 'unrippable CD' -- grip had no problem making some mp3s for him.03:35
dreadnoughtdabaR: http://giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/03:35
GarrettGRUB is only showing Ubuntu, so I'm trying to add Windoze to my menu.lst file.03:35
wickedpuppyas i said ... blackdown is in repo! if he wants blackdown ... just use synaptic03:35
Razor-XGarrett: I see03:35
Garrett...and failing horribly.03:35
psusithis is the first time I've ever used grub, but I'm stoked as hell because I got it working on my sata fakeraid0 and it's awesome03:35
jvaibye a thinkpad03:35
GarrettThe Windows portion of menu.lst reads as follows:03:36
Garretttitle Windows03:36
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yahya meatwad65: are you sure it's not your touchpad?03:36
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wickedpuppyGarrett, do not paste here03:36
meatwad65no i'm not sure03:36
wickedpuppyGarrett, pastebin pls03:36
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yahyameatwad65: you might be clicking it accidentally03:36
Razor-X!pastebin03:36
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:36
meatwad65i'll turn it off while i'm typing i guess...you think there is some tap enabled in linux? or something03:36
dreadnoughtdabaR: wat u got for me?03:37
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meatwad65its weird i never did that in windows but the linux drivers might have different functionality03:37
bimberiwickedpuppy, dabaR, dreadnought: i've checked on packages.ubuntu.com and blackdown java is only available for warty, breezy and dapper - go figure!03:37
yahyameatwad65: yeah, tap is enabled on my laptop03:37
GarrettGet that, Razor-X?03:37
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meatwad65yeah what is the point of tap really?03:37
_Dezhow do i delete DRivers??03:37
Garrett!pastebin03:37
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:37
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dabaRdreadnought: my head hurts, i dont feel like it.03:38
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MarcN_Dez: what are you really trying to do?03:38
dabaRwickedpuppy: if you can explain it step by step to dreadnought or send him a good wiki page, go ahead03:38
icemanAnyone able to help me learn about setting a web server in linux03:38
dreadnoughtdabaR: aughhhh linux is pissin me off damn windows bluescreenin on me!03:39
dreadnoughthey wikedpupyy go for it!03:39
jvailinux blue screens??? whaaaaa!03:39
thrushiceman: apt-get install apache03:39
Garretthttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4336 I guess.03:39
dabaRiceman: learn what? it ir really only an installation, in one line03:39
MarcNiceman: apt-get install apache2 apache2-doc03:39
_DezMarcN im trying to remove fan.ko | thermal.ko03:39
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icemanhow to configure apache and how to set up sharing on a windows box03:40
MarcN_Dez: to remove them from use, sudo rmmod fan ; sudo rmmod thermal03:40
dreadnoughtnot linux my hdd is 66% windows and 33% linux and my windows bluescreened03:40
thrushiceman: best bet might be to look at wiki.ubuntu.com03:40
MarcN_Dez: you man need to remove modules that depend upon them first.03:40
icemangot apach installed, but windows cant see the linux box03:40
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icemanis the a vnc program for linux and Windows ?03:40
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MarcNiceman: first check to see if the windows box can ping the linux box.  then try to telnet to port 8003:41
_DezMarcN how do i do that03:41
MarcNiceman: there are vncserver and vncviewer for windows and for linux.03:41
dabaRiceman: see it how? can you ping from one machine to the other, are both on the internet?03:41
icemanIs there a way to VNC between Linux and Windows03:41
Ep|phanyi have these keys that are supposed to adjust  my volume on my laptop is there anyway to enable them on linux?03:41
GarrettDid Razor-X fall off the face of the Inter-web?03:41
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dreadnoughtwhere r u wickedpuppy?03:41
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icemanboth are on the net same ip03:41
Razor-XGarrett: no, i'm just a bit busy03:42
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dabaRGarrett: no he was here a sec ago03:42
Razor-Xand your link doesen't work, 's all03:42
MarcN_Dez: do sudo rmmod thermal   complain?  if so it will say what depends on it.03:42
GarrettRazor-X, no problem.03:42
dabaRiceman: do you use a router?03:42
rain`If I get a lot of "[4303450.849000]  scsi7 (0:0): rejecting I/O to dead device" and "[4303450.849000]  FAT: Directory bread(block 47) failed" does that mean I have a bad dvd on my hands?03:42
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GarrettdabaR, thanks. :)03:42
MarcNiceman: two systems can't have the same ip at the same time.03:42
dabaRMarcN: :)03:42
dreadnoughttheyt can but there will be conflicts03:43
dabaRMarcN: on the *I*nternet03:43
yahyaEp|phany: yeah, go to Preferences->keyboard shortcuts03:43
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Razor-XGarrett: here, i'm back03:44
icemandabaR ok, i can run VNC from a wine install, and see the windows system, but windows cant find the linux vnc03:44
dreadnoughtwow dabar wheres ur wicked friend?03:44
dabaRdreadnought: what wicked friend?03:44
Garretthttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4336 if you didn't recieve the direct message.03:44
melodramatici have a 30gig hd wich partition should i choose to install ubuntu03:44
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Ep|phanyyaha is there any way to make so two keys combined do it03:44
melodramatichow should i partition it03:44
dabaRmelodramatic: make a 10 gig partition for / and 20 for /home03:44
MarcNiceman: from windows,    vncviewer ip-of-linuxbox:1      vncserver on linux creates a virtual monitor that you connect to.03:44
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melodramaticok all ext2?03:45
Razor-XGarrett: I can see it pretty obviously, I think03:45
dabaRext303:45
dreadnoughtdabaR: u referred me to wickedpuppy where is he03:45
Razor-XGarrett: where's Windows located at, again?03:45
melodramaticok03:45
MarcNiceman: vncserver on windows displays what is on the real monitor, vncserver on unix-like systems don't grab the monitor's image. There is a way, but not vncserver.03:45
Garrettsda1.03:45
_DezMarcN i get ERROR: MOdule fan does not exist in /proc/modules | module thermal does not exist in /proc/modules03:45
dabaRdreadnought: he maybe left, and maybe he does not like helping people that do not help theselves, or a third option...03:46
dabaRdreadnought: read the wiki for java, try that03:46
icemanwhere can i get vncserver for linux and windows03:46
MarcN_Dez: use:    sudo lsmod   to get a list of what is currently loaded03:46
Ep|phanyis there anyway i can find a keyboard model for my gateway laptop03:46
icemanand the viewer03:46
icemanfor both03:46
Ep|phanybecause i have this 1 button i want to use but its not working03:46
dreadnoughti dont help my self im a networkng expert im just not good with linux03:46
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MarcNiceman: apt-cache search vncl03:47
Razor-XGarrett: different drives, I presume?03:47
dabaRdreadnought: good. Im just a litle headachish tonight, dont worry.03:47
icemanand for windows box ?03:47
dreadnoughtdabaR: i asked u hav to get black down and u referred me to the dead page remember03:47
GarrettYes. Ubuntu is on IDE (hda)03:47
GarrettI also have another IDE drive, (hdb) with just storage.03:47
dabaRdreadnought: /j #dabaR if you want.03:48
Razor-XGarrett: try this03:48
dreadnoughtok03:48
Razor-XGarrett: underneath the title line03:48
Razor-XGarrett: add two lines03:49
Razor-Xfirst line:03:49
icemanwhat about vnc for windows03:49
Razor-X``map (hd0) (hd1)''03:49
MarcNiceman: google vnc03:49
Razor-X``map (hd1) (hd0)''03:49
_native_Razor-X: yo03:49
icemanbut will the two be compatable03:49
Razor-Xthe rest should work out fine03:49
Razor-X_native_: hey03:49
Razor-Xiceman: they use the same protocol, so yes, they're compatible03:50
icemanwhat about this ?03:50
icemanTightVNC03:50
MarcNiceman: all the same protocol.03:50
icemanhttp://www.tightvnc.org/download.html03:50
GarrettRazor-X: Will try, thanks.03:50
MarcNiceman: tightvnc, realvnc, vnc, all interoperate.03:50
Razor-Xiceman: TightVNC is the same thing as VNC but with a bit better compression03:50
_DezMarcN its not loaded b/c it wont load on boot03:50
GarrettRazor-X: Do I need to change rootnoverify (hd1,0) to (hd0,0)?03:51
MarcN_Dez: i thought you wanted to remove a driver module.03:51
Razor-Xiceman: it interoperates with other VNCs, but in order to use the compressed form, server and client need to be tightvnc03:51
icemanjust wanting the vnc part, and the how to set up apache ... and a mail server03:51
Razor-XGarrett: nope03:51
Razor-Xiceman: a mail server... oooh03:51
GarrettRazor-X: Mmkay, be back shortly.03:51
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rain`Anyone know of a better mdf image converter than mdf2iso? when I try to use mdf2iso, it says "File too large" ....03:51
Razor-Xiceman: MTAs scare me, because they have such crappy documentation03:52
Razor-Xrain`: you may try and emulate a Windows converter in WINE03:52
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Razor-XMDF is a proprietary format (if i'm not mistaken), so I wouldn't find much headway on it03:52
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R0bNycwhats the latest kernel ?03:53
Razor-XR0bNyc: www.kernel.org buddy :)03:53
DrKriticalDoes anyone know of any documentation for setting up a virtual email server in ubuntu (I have an mx record pointed at my ip)03:53
arkanesThe Python packages for Ubuntu don't seem to contain the profile module, and I can't find another package that does, anyone have any pointers?03:53
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MarcNDrKritical: what do you mean by virtual mail server?03:53
Razor-XDrKritical: if you want a real full-blown server, my suggestion is to read a *lot* of docs03:53
R0bNycRazor-X, no in ubuntu lol03:53
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Razor-Xassuming you want an MTA03:54
Razor-XR0bNyc: oh :)03:54
DrKriticalNah, it's just for one email address03:54
Razor-Xnot quite sure, meself, check aptitude03:54
DrKriticalmy brother hosted his website from my box... www.alphaecho.co.nz03:54
R0bNycRazor-X, u mean synaptic lol03:54
Razor-XDrKritical: are you going to do SMTP forwarding, or will it act as a mail server?03:54
DrKriticalhe wants the email to forward to him03:54
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Razor-XR0bNyc: errr, apt, synaptic, aptitude, same difference03:54
DrKriticalSMTP forwarding03:54
Razor-XDrKritical: ok, that wouldn't be too hard03:54
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jvaihe needs the ubuntu server install03:54
dylan_is the GNOME developer team working to reduce the processor and memory usage?03:54
Razor-XDrKritical: I use a similar setup using fetchmail and nbsmtp03:55
DrKriticalRazor-X: Can you suggest a good program? mybe even one with a nice GUI :D03:55
R0bNyclol03:55
Razor-XDrKritical: oh um... *cough*03:55
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MarcNDrKritical: use a simple MTA and put a .forward file in ~brother/03:55
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icemanhow to reconfigure the VNC on the linux machine, the network only broadcast 127.0.0.1, but the linux part see's full network03:55
Razor-XDrKritical: I haven't seen much by the way of an MTA and GUI03:55
DrKritical.forward aye?... o... kay...03:55
MarcNiceman: what is the ip of the windows box and of the linux box?03:55
Razor-XDrKritical: I have an actual working setup if you want that03:55
DrKriticalRazor-X: yes please!03:56
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megabyzustest03:56
bimberiarkanes: the multiverse package "python-profiler" might be what you're after03:56
icemanlinux box is like 192.168.0.20503:56
Razor-XDrKritical: is nbsmtp in the breezy repos?03:56
shadeofgreyguys i have a horrible peroblem03:56
Razor-XDrKritical: (I use hoary, and it isn't, so I compiled it)03:56
MarcNiceman: and the windows box?03:56
DrKriticalRazor-X: one second03:56
solidgrooveanyone succesfully compile kernel on 5.10?03:56
megabyzussimple question03:56
icemanwindows is a complete different ip...03:56
megabyzusi added 'wine' thru synaptic03:56
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megabyzusbut I don't see it in the application list03:57
MarcNiceman: when you say 'ip' you mean ip address, right?03:57
GarrettRazor-X: No dice.03:57
megabyzuswhere is it?03:57
icemanlinux finds the windows box, windows cannot find linux ... LOL03:57
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Razor-XGarrett: ah :(03:57
shadeofgreyi removed my old version ofg foirefox and installed the newerst version using apt-get and somehow i screwed something up.  i no longer get the option to "Set image as Wallpaper" when i right click on images03:57
icemanyes the ip's03:57
shadeofgreywhat the hell did i do and how the hell do i fix it?03:57
pc22fro windows. how do i telnet my ubuntu box03:57
DrKriticalRazor-X: nah it's not... whats that for? I thought fetchmail was an smtp server?03:57
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rain`Razor-X: thanks for the tip, but it turns out it was just a iso9660 format so I just loop mounted it03:57
shadeofgreyill pay money to whomever helps me with this NOW03:57
GarrettRazor-X: Just spat out the Windows portion of menu.lst and stalled. HD LED lit up for probably...10 seconds.03:57
shadeofgreyand i mean it,03:57
Razor-XDrKritical: fetchmail fetches your mail03:57
pc22from windows. how do i telnet my ubuntu box03:57
MarcNiceman: are you sure the network is okay?03:57
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DrKriticalDrKritical: So it's a pop/imap client?03:57
DrKriticallol03:57
MarcNpc22: don't use telnet, use ssh (or putty on windows)03:58
shadeofgreyif i cant xchange my desktop wallpaper atleast three times a day ill lose my grip on reality03:58
Razor-XGarrett: mmmm03:58
icemanthe "wine versions of vnc installed shows 127.0.0.1 for the linux box broadcast ip ... but how to set the ip in linux and wine to broadcast the correct ip03:58
Razor-XDrKritical: it's a severely limited MTA03:58
Razor-XGarrett: did you grub-install again?03:58
shadeofgrey.....and p.s. im almost out of painkillers....  so....  help SOON would be good03:58
DrKriticalRazor-X: So fetchmail isn't really needed in what I want to do? I should be more concerned about nbsmtp?...03:58
_DezMarcN when i boot up my pc it says Fatal eRror no device */acpi/fan.ko same with thermal03:58
shadeofgreyotherwise i might have a psychotic episofe03:58
Razor-XDrKritical: yeah, pretty much03:58
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robotgeekhas anyone been successful in getting postfix to relay to gmail?03:58
GarrettRazor-X: Come again?03:58
Razor-XDrKritical: fetchmail gets your mail, nbsmtp gives it03:58
psusiis there a flag to get dd to use O_DIRECT?03:58
icemanI know the network is ok, as i said linux can vnc connect to the windows system, but not windows to the linux box03:58
MarcNiceman: you have only one system and running windows in a wine box?03:58
psusito bypass the buffer cache?03:59
GarrettRazor-X: Not familiar with what you're talking about.03:59
bimberimegabyzus: run it from the terminal - "wine freecell.exe" for example03:59
Razor-XGarrett: you should run ``grub-install /dev/path/to/first/master''03:59
jvaii fix'd forwarding mail thru gmail03:59
Razor-XGarrett: after editing the config03:59
icemanno two systems one LINUX / WINE ... Other is Windows XP03:59
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megabyzusbimberi thanks03:59
MarcN_Dez: so the fan and thermal drivers can't find your hardware.  supported?  some module configuration file needed?03:59
bimberimegabyzus: yw :)03:59
DrKriticalRazor-X: I'm a little concerned compiling my own software for an smtp server... because I couldn't be trusted to keep it updated... know of any other software packages that do the same job avaliable in repos?03:59
GarrettRazor-X: I feel stupid. :)03:59
Ivo_Newbei have a simple question: in what site can I find a list of software/packages I can download and install?03:59
megabyzusbut how can i add it to the intercae application list?03:59
Razor-XDrKritical: nbsmtp is real simple to setup, assuming you use mutt, a tad bit harder if you don't, but still simple03:59
jvaisetting rechreiv to "none"03:59
_DezMarcN my LAptop doesnt have ACPI04:00
Ivo_Newbeanyone can help me?04:00
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GarrettRazor-X: Can I do this after I've rebooted?04:00
Razor-XDrKritical: yeah, I thought the same too, but nbsmtp really works for this purpose, it is the ``No-Brainer SMTP server'' :P04:00
MarcNiceman: you don't run vnc in a wine container on linux.  Use the linux native version of vncserver or vncviewer.04:00
robotgeekjvai: in postfix?04:00
megabyzusbimberi...are you still there?04:00
bimberimegabyzus: Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor04:00
Razor-XGarrett: do it while you're sitting in front of a booted machine, then reboot04:00
gord_Ivo_Newbe: if you open up synaptic you will get a list with information about each package04:00
bimberimegabyzus: yeah, just slow :)04:00
GarrettMmkay.04:00
ksmurfhello all.  Can anyone shed some light on Hibernate to disk? I have an acer laptop that seems to hibernate to swap but not resume.  any ideas?04:00
icemancan i apt-get those vnc parts04:00
MarcN_Dez: perhaps that is the problem.04:00
Hex1how do you make Breezy remember your DNS settings, intead of continuously resetting to 10.1.1.1 ?04:01
Ivo_Newbesynaptic?? what is it?04:01
R0bNycRazor-X, quick question in synaptic i searched for kernel ... and i see linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 and linux-image-2.6.12-9-686-smp (i want to try those 2) on the latest version says 2.6.12-9-.23 then i go down a lil more and it shows linux-image-686 and linux-image-686-smp (With no #'s ) but then where it says latest version says 2.6.12.16 .. im confused there04:01
MarcNksmurf: did you add the appropriate stuff to grub so you can return from hibernate?04:01
_DezMarcN i dont want it tto try to load them at all.04:01
robotgeekRazor-X: so, nbsmtp is easier to configure than postfix (for gmail stuff) ?04:01
megabyzusbimberi...wow it's crwoed here...can we talk directly?04:01
gord_Ivo_Newbe: system -> administraion -> synaptic in breezy badger04:01
ksmurfMarcN  and that would be what? I am quite the noob at laptops04:01
Razor-XR0bNyc: the one with numbers isn't the default kernel, the one without numbers is04:01
bimberimegabyzus: ok04:01
Razor-Xrobotgeek: much simpler04:01
MarcN_Dez: they aren't getting successfully loaded.  doesn't cause a problem,  just the message on boot, right?04:01
robotgeekRazor-X: i've spent the whole day on postfix, it almost works :)04:02
megabyzusok...i'm dumb...how do you do that (chat direct)04:02
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R0bNycRazor-X, but it shows linux-image-2.6.9-386 and linux-image-386 installed already04:02
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Razor-Xrobotgeek: that's as far as I got, till a friendly sysadmin told me about nbsmtp04:02
_Dezyeah MarcN it takes like 30seconds just to display the error so it can finish booting04:02
bimberimegabyzus: you have to register your nick and be identified first04:02
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zawoot got it running04:02
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zaanyone know how i can install winrar04:03
Razor-XR0bNyc: get both then, just in case, but 686 is basically the i686 processor, P4's and later mobile Pentium processors fall under that04:03
robotgeekRazor-X: hmm, it fails on some verfication stuff04:03
Ivo_Newbethank you04:03
MarcNksmurf:  I added this to the kernel line in grub's menu.lst;   resume=/dev/hda5    where hda5 is my swap partition04:03
Razor-XR0bNyc: SMP is multiple processor04:03
zait gives me instructions but im not sure if im suppose to enter them in word for word04:03
Razor-Xrobyeah, you need tls crap04:03
bimberimegabyzus: keep it in the channel, hopefully your irc client highlights when your nick is used04:03
Razor-Xerrr04:03
phoenixp3kHello!04:03
psusiza: you don't... winrar is a windows program... there are linux archivers that understand the rar format thoguh04:03
Razor-Xrobotgeek: you need tls crap04:03
megabyzusbimberi i'm trying direct client to client04:03
ksmurfMarcN thanks04:03
icemanHit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/multiverse Sources04:03
icemanIgn http://wine.sourceforge.net source/ Sources04:03
icemanHit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Sources04:03
icemanGet:6 http://wine.sourceforge.net binary/ Packages [1083B] 04:03
icemanGet:7 http://wine.sourceforge.net source/ Sources [712B] 04:03
iceman99% [Waiting for headers] 04:03
R0bNycRazor-X, yea i know i have  prescott p4 w/ HT so thats why I use the SMP 1.. but I wanted to see how the 686 works w/o SMP...04:03
Razor-Xiceman: no!04:03
icemanw t f that locked up04:03
Razor-Xiceman: in pastebin04:03
Razor-X!pastebin04:03
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:03
megabyzusahhh fergitit04:03
R0bNycRazor-X, get both of which the one's with #'s or the others ?04:03
robotgeekRazor-X: i know, that's what's bugging me!04:03
icemani ment to put in flood04:03
zawell at rarlab.com you can download the command line only version of winrar for linux04:03
phoenixp3kcan someone guide me to enable an ISA sound card. The wiki guide isnt much help04:03
megabyzusbimberi let's just stay here04:04
Razor-XR0bNyc: you can try it out, just change the booted kernel in GRUB04:04
robotgeekza: unrar-nonfree04:04
MarcN_Dez: are you sure that that is what is slowing down?  could be the next thing starting up.  You could muck around in /etc/mod* to remove them.  Been a while since i needed to mess with module configuraiton04:04
bimberimegabyzus: k :)04:04
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zaa website robot?04:04
megabyzusbimberi so when i go the menu editor how do i find 'wine'?04:04
Razor-XR0bNyc: or get them using apt-get/synaptic/aptitude, I suggest both04:04
Razor-Xrobotgeek: go and compile nbsmtp04:04
robotgeekza: no,it's in the repos. apt-get install unrar-nonfree04:04
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Razor-Xrobotgeek: it takes mere seconds to compie on a clunker like this04:04
R0bNycRazor-X, get them both with and without the #'s ?04:04
bimberimegabyzus: no, you need to add it there, wine doesn't add an entry when it's installed04:04
Razor-Xrobotgeek: it's extremely small, meant for high-load servers04:04
Razor-XR0bNyc: yeah04:04
zaoh ok04:04
robotgeekRazor-X: hmm, okay...going there now!04:04
Razor-Xrobotgeek: i'ld give you a hoary deb, but most people don't use hoary yet04:05
megabyzusbimberi  so i assume i have to 'create a new entry' in the ditor right?04:05
Razor-X*anymore04:05
R0bNycRazor-X, alrightt hanks .. btw ubuntu updates grub for me i hope04:05
phoenixp3kAt least a hint on how to configure ALSA ^04:05
Razor-XR0bNyc: if you get it from apt/aptitude/synaptic, then yes04:05
Razor-Xbut GRUB shouldn't be a problem04:05
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zaapt-get install unrar-nonfree04:05
bimberimegabyzus: yes04:05
psusigrub doesn't get updated04:05
zai get a error04:05
GarrettRazor-X: When I do the "grub-install" it spits out hd0 as /dev/hda and hd1 as /dev/hdb.04:05
robotgeekRazor-X: no problem, i have no issues compiling04:05
MarcN Razor-X: most are on hoary?  I'm on dapper :-)04:05
psusiit isn't being maintained anymore04:05
GarrettNo mention about sda1 (which I'm trying to boot to.04:06
zasays couldnt open lock file04:06
zai sould be typing that in the terminal correct Robotgeek?04:06
Razor-XGarrett: i'm thinking that hdb is your sda104:06
megabyzusbimberi so wehn I go there I have to find the wine 'command'04:06
dooglusza: put "sudo " in front of it04:06
megabyzusbimberi where is it in the file system?04:06
Garrett"fdisk -l" spits out hdb as it should be, and sda as it should be with all partitions.04:07
robotgeekRazor-X: damn, the source file is not downloadable, 500 error!04:07
zawhat is sudo do dooglus?04:07
shadeofgreyguys04:07
Razor-XGarrett: oh... hmmm04:07
dooglusza: it runs stuff as root04:07
shadeofgreyseriously i need help with this04:07
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Razor-XGarrett: so you have three disks?04:07
bimberimegabyzus: /usr/bin/wine04:07
GarrettYes.04:07
shadeofgreyi broke firefox somehow04:07
psusiGarrett, you have both an ide and a scsi drive?04:07
zaif im root though shouldnt it automatically do that?04:07
robotgeekRazor-X: other mirror worked04:07
GarrettTwo IDE, one SATA.04:07
zaand it says it cant find the package04:07
zacouldnt find unrar-nonfree04:07
psusiGarrett, ok... edit your /boot/grub/devices.map04:08
bimberimegabyzus: you also need to specify what program you're going to run so -  /usr/bin/wine /path/to/program.exe04:08
Razor-XGarrett: try this04:08
dooglusza: the packages is called 'unrar-nonfree' and it's in the multiverse repository.04:08
psusiGarrett, your bios can boot from the scsi drive right?04:08
Razor-XGarrett: open a terminal, type ``grub''04:08
megabyzusbimberi is that all in the same line in the 'browse box'?04:08
robotgeekza: yup04:08
psusiGarrett, as long as it can, you should be able to edit your /boot/grub/devices/map and point (hd0) to /dev/sda04:09
zayeah i typed 'sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree'04:09
zasaid no package named unrar-nonfree existed04:09
Razor-XGarrett: and hit ``root (hd'' and hit enter04:09
dooglusza: you need to enable the multiverse repo04:09
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Razor-XGarrett: to see if /dev/sda is already mapped to anything04:09
phoenixp3kNeed help on how to activate a ISA sound card. Wiki is not helping...04:09
bimberimegabyzus: no, just cancel out of the browser and type it directly into the command field04:09
Razor-XGarrett: put the output in pastebin04:09
zaheh im pretty noob, exactly how do i do that ;\04:09
dooglus!repos04:09
ubotuI guess repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource04:10
ubuntukinghello all04:10
Razor-Xrobotgeek: compiled?04:10
megabyzusbimberi ok...just so that i'm a totla pain in the ass...where do i find the icon for wine?04:10
zadooglus: event not found04:10
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bimberimegabyzus: sec...04:10
robotgeekRazor-X: on it, was checking out the options04:10
GarrettRazor-X: What am I typing in again to grub? "root hd(" output something about the FS being FAT.04:10
dooglusza: when I typed "!repos" here, the bot saw it, and responded with the text you need to read04:10
robotgeekRazor-X: yup, done04:10
dooglusza: see what ubotu said?04:11
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Razor-Xrobotgeek: yes, make sure you have libssl dev libs in order to compile with tls support04:11
psusiGarrett, what is the line in /boot/grub/devices.map that starts with (hd0)?04:11
robotgeekRazor-X: yeah, have them04:11
zak04:11
Razor-XGarrett: ``root (hd''04:11
phoenixp3kOh. well...04:12
Razor-Xrobotgeek: then take a look at ./configure --help, should have only one option :)04:12
phoenixp3kguess I Ll have to live without sound04:12
zadooglus:  i should be the root, but why do i have to type sudo before apt-get?  did i do something wrong during the install or forget some kind of permission04:12
phoenixp3k... of music...04:12
Garrettpsusi: (hd0)/dev/hda04:12
bimberimegabyzus: i can't find one that was installed, just select something appropriate from /usr/share/pixmaps for now04:12
psusiza, no... root is root, you are you04:12
dabaRza: ya, you should not be the root.04:12
robotgeekRazor-X: yeah, compiled -> checkinstalled also :)04:12
Razor-Xza: you shouldn't be root, unlike windows, you don't have total control of your machine04:12
zaahh ok04:12
psusiGarrett, that's the problem... point it to /dev/sda if that's the drive you want to boot from04:13
dabaRRazor-X: lol04:13
Razor-Xrobotgeek: nice, let's make a wiki entry later with a breezy and hoary deb :)04:13
nebularI'm trying to share a printer via samba, but I don't seem to have a printcap file. How do I generate one?04:13
megabyzusbimberi..stand by04:13
Razor-Xza: because Linux gives root true power04:13
dabaR!rootsudo04:13
uboturumour has it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:13
GarrettRazor-X: Outputs the filesystem is fat.04:13
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robotgeekRazor-X: i have the ppc deb :)04:13
zaso couldnt any user just do sudo then04:13
Razor-Xrobotgeek: oh :P04:13
zai mean thats like any user having the power root has04:13
dabaRza no only those in the admin group, the first user is by default.04:13
zak04:13
GarrettRazor-X: BRB04:13
Razor-Xza: they need the root password also04:13
Garrettpsusi: BRB04:14
zaoh yeah04:14
dabaRRazor-X: no they dont.04:14
Razor-Xrobotgeek: now, you use mutt?04:14
Razor-XdabaR: oh, woops, my bad04:14
psusiRazor-X, by default ubuntu configures duto to require YOUR password, root has none04:14
Razor-Xyeah, I realized my mistake04:14
dabaRRazor-X: only have to be in admin group, and they get it with grant.04:14
psusimyself, I just set it to not ask for any password04:14
psusis/duto/sudo04:14
dabaRza: only one use with sudo is fine.04:14
megabyzusbi,kberi...i've added wine the menu04:14
megabyzuswhen i click on it nothing happens04:14
robotgeekRazor-X: yeah, i need to configure gmail for sending mutt04:15
Razor-Xrobotgeek: open up your .muttrc04:15
dreadnoughthey!04:15
robotgeekRazor-X: fetchmail already dumps gmail to my system04:15
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robotgeekRazor-X: kk, next lines please :)04:15
Nihil85mustard5, private04:15
megabyzusjust to confirm i have /usr/bin/wine /path/to/program.exe in the text box next to 'browse'04:15
megabyzusbimberi there is a space between /wine and /path04:16
Razor-Xrobotgeek: and type in ``set sendmail="/usr/local/bin/nmsmtp -D -f username@domain.com -M -p -U username -P password -s -h smtp.gmail.com"''04:16
bimberimegabyzus: yes04:16
Razor-Xerrr04:17
robotgeekRazor-X: damn, i downloaded nbsmtp :)04:17
Toranwhen are you guys planning on releaseing the latest version of xchat to the repositories?04:17
megabyzuswell when i click on 'wine' on the menu nothing happens....04:17
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Razor-Xrobotgeek: I added one little typo04:17
zadooglus:  do you play any games?04:17
icemanok, how to install from a RPM file04:17
Razor-Xrobotgeek: and type in ``set sendmail="/usr/local/bin/nbsmtp -D -f username@domain.com -M -p -U username -P password -s -h smtp.gmail.com"''04:17
Razor-Xyeah, meh :P04:17
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Razor-Xand one more thing!04:17
dabaRiceman: why are you installing an rpm04:17
Razor-Xnot ``-p'' but ``-p''04:17
Razor-Xerrr!04:17
bimberimegabyzus: did you literally type "/path/to/program.exe"04:17
bimberi?04:17
Razor-Xnot ``-p'' but ``p''04:17
[linner] hello :)04:17
Razor-Xhahaha, sorry04:17
Razor-Xfinally should be04:18
megabyzusbimberi: yes04:18
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megabyzusbimberi; without the quotes though04:18
icemandabaR only version of tightvnc for linux was a rpb04:18
[linner] tritium:  hello :) :) :)04:18
icemanrpm04:18
Razor-X``set sendmail="/usr/local/bin/nbsmtp -D -f username@domain.com -M p -U username -P password -s -h smtp.gmail.com"''04:18
zaanyone plays games throuhg linux... if so, do you use WINE?04:18
robotgeekRazor-X: done, now checking04:18
dooglusza: you don't need to log in as root - in fact it's discouraged, especially for n00bs04:19
Razor-Xza: I play mostly Linux only games04:19
MarcNza: games are for lusers04:19
bimberimegabyzus: yeah no quotes, but that is supposed to be replaced by the path to wherever the windows program you want to run is located04:19
zalol04:19
robotgeekRazor-X: i got the p, so lemme retry04:19
Razor-XTetris, TuxRacer, NetHack, etc.04:19
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zawell i play games =[04:19
dooglusza: I don't play a lot of games, no.  I play DROD occasionally, and recently played GTA San Andreas and Fahrenheit - Indigo Child04:19
dreadnoughtDABAR!04:19
BeGuwhat is DROD?04:19
Razor-Xof course, my real gaming is done on console (where I think it's best)04:19
zadoes linux suppot OpenGL?04:19
zaor no04:19
MarcNZa: just teasing.  I play worm04:19
megabyzusbimberi...LOL...i think i understand what you're saying....04:19
dabaRiceman: sudo aptitude install tightvncserver04:19
bimberimegabyzus: an example might be /home/bimberi/windows/solitaire.exe04:19
dooglusBeGu: Deadly Rooms Of Death -- drod.net04:19
Razor-Xbut, how much time would I have to game with two AP classes, and the rest honors classes? :P04:19
Sir_Realityis something screwy going on in the apt repositories? everything is marked as newly upgraded04:20
zai play WoW and stuff04:20
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megabyzusbimberi so wine NEEDS a particular program to run?  It can't just start emulation and you can kickoff windows program within it?04:20
[linner] does anyone know what causes Ubuntu to think that a critical temperature has been reached ... even though its a cool as a cucumber????04:20
gord_linux supports open gl za, you'll have a hard time getting wow to run though04:20
rain`IDDQD04:20
dooglusza: I installed everquest yesterday - but it told me it was going to take 4 hours to download the patches, so I left the PC to it.04:20
bimberimegabyzus: wine doesn't run as a standalone program itself - it allows you to run windows programs04:20
gord_apprently older versions of wow run, but not the latest patches04:20
Davey__if you want VNC in Ubuntu, it has a VNC Server built in04:20
bimberimegabyzus: yep, you got it just as i hit the return key :)04:20
Razor-Xif I want to play Morrowind, I simply boot into Windows04:20
megabyzusbimberi....I get it....thnak you for your time.04:20
dooglusDavey__: it does?  how do you run it?04:21
megabyzusbimberi you have been very patient with me04:21
bimberimegabyzus: np :)04:21
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megabyzusBYE04:21
_native_is tightVNC available?04:21
Razor-Xthat and my dad's rage are the only reasons it still exists on this box :P04:21
dreadnoughtwow u all suck04:21
dabaRDavey__: he does not even know the IP, he thinks its the same as windows...04:21
bimberimegabyzus: cya04:21
zalol dooglus04:21
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megabyzusquit04:21
Davey__dooglus, System > Preferences > Remote Desktop04:21
zagord: you can run wow in ogl and directx cant you04:21
_native_or a better question whats the most secure/best way to do VNC?04:21
Razor-XI know I suck, I mean I like my soft drinks with straws, after all :)04:21
Davey__dooglus, its per user04:21
SEJeff_native_: NX04:22
zaa kid at school who runs fedora advised against running WINE to play games04:22
Razor-X_native_: if you want secure, you want X forwarding tunneled through SSH04:22
SEJeff_native_: Faster than vnc and tunneled through ssh04:22
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Razor-Xza: how old was that kid? :P I'll probably match him04:22
zai think about my age04:22
za20-21ish04:22
bimberi_native_: yep, FreeNX - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX04:22
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gord_yea you can, which is why you can run older versions though wine, but the latests versions are dodgy. its best to check the compatibility list on the wine site http;//www.winehq.org i think04:22
_native_i do ssh with X forwarding now. so....04:22
[linner] or.... what causes hanging when booting????04:22
Razor-Xza: WINE is the de facto free windows emulator04:22
_native_guess im on the right track.04:22
zayeah, is it shitty or something?04:22
_native_;] 04:22
Razor-X_native_: FreeNX is a bitch to setup, I hear04:22
guilhermewhat better media player for ubuntu? totem is vey restricted!04:22
gord_there is nothing wrong with using wine to play games, its just that you might have a hard time getting them to work. lots do though04:22
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dabaRguilherme: yes04:23
zaahhh ok goird04:23
Razor-Xguilherme: I prefer mplayer, personally04:23
MarcNSEJeff: freenx you mean? is it OSS?04:23
gord_anything that is directx only is basicaly a no no without cadega though04:23
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Razor-XMarcN: *Free*NX :)04:23
_native_Razor-X:  yeah i tried it a while back a just said screw it.04:23
Razor-XI'm thinking that implies free as in libre04:23
bimberiRazor-X: seveas has put together some breezy packages which make it fairly straightforward04:23
MarcNRazor-X: not in ubuntu it seems04:23
Razor-Xbimberi: crazy, Seveas has some mad time on his hands04:24
guilhermeRazor-X: The name is 'mplayer' ? (will look at repositories)04:24
bimberiRazor-X: :)04:24
Razor-Xguilherme: mmmhmmm04:24
_native_who's a fluxer in here?04:24
guilhermei'll try.. thanks04:24
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Razor-X_native_: not me, I take a healthy dose of ratpoison :P04:24
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SEJeffMarcN: Yes, it is. I meant NX as a protocol. freenx is the oss server04:24
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[linner] SEJeff:  remember me? :)04:24
_native_Razor-X: i know you where pimpin you slick sever ideas the other day. ;-] 04:25
SEJeff[linner] , yeah04:25
MarcNSEJeff: hmm, no one packaged it for debian/ubuntu it seams.04:25
psusihey, SEJeff !04:25
ParkwayWould anyone know if, with the new distro, a wireless USB adapter is possible?04:25
MarcNseems04:25
_native_*server04:25
jvaii use feather linux.. if that flux ebuff lol04:25
Razor-X_native_: hmmm, how did they get received by #ubuntu-server and #ubuntu-instant ?04:25
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psusiSEJeff: got grub working... it seems that it accepts the device (hd0,4) syntax, but it isn't correct... just had to drop that command and give it a geometry command instead04:25
GarrettRazor-X: Still around?04:25
[linner] SEJeff:  well... i loaded ubuntu... and got all the way til it told me that my video card was wrong.... tried to reboot and now it's hanging all over the place...04:25
zaman i love linux04:25
jvaithinkpad keyboards04:25
Razor-XGarrett: yeahp04:25
robotgeekRazor-X: mutt says Error. Child exited04:25
zai dont think i could go back to windows04:25
_native_Razor-X: i dont know i have'nt been in those channels for while.04:25
[linner] SEJeff:  did you do anything special to get your lappys to run?04:25
SEJeffpsusi: Thats ugly, but it works now. Thats what matters04:26
Razor-Xugghh, the last 16 MB andI'm downloading at 7.1 k/s04:26
XlylithHi all, does anyone know how to fix incorrect version of packages retrieved by my synaptic04:26
SEJeff[linner] : Installed it :-)04:26
GarrettRazor-X: We've made some progress, hah. It now spits out "GRUB loading stage2" and freezes.04:26
Razor-Xon me torrent, rather04:26
[linner] SEJeff:  huh?04:26
[linner] SEJeff:  I did try to install it...04:26
SEJeff[linner] : nothing special. Ubuntu just worked for me04:26
psusiSEJeff: yea... wasn't nearly as ugly as getting lilo to work though, for that I had to patch the source and use all kinds of ugly commands in lilo.conf04:26
[linner] SEJeff:  bummer....04:26
Razor-Xrobotgeek: ok, try this, in mutt, fcc your mail to a file04:26
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dooglusDavey__: thanks.  I've been manually launching x11vnc until now.  I didn't realise there was a built in server.04:26
[linner] SEJeff:  i mean good for you... bad for me04:26
SEJeff[linner] : File a bug, it will lead to it getting fixed faster04:27
psusigrub just needed to be told to use /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae for hd0 instead of /dev/hda, and the geometry since it didn't detect it right for some reason04:27
[linner] SEJeff:  thanks...04:27
Davey__dooglus, :)04:27
psusiI've never used grub before but already I love it04:27
[linner] SEJeff:  i think i'm just going to try to just reinstall it first04:27
dooglusDavey__: just one concern - where does it save my password?04:27
XlylithHi all, does anyone know how to fix incorrect version of packages retrieved by my synaptic04:27
Davey__dooglus, no idea, LOL04:27
SEJeff_native_: You might add: 'deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas freenx' to your sources.list and then apt-get freenx. Makes it pretty easy thanks to Seveas04:28
psusiand they told me I COULDN'T get ubuntu working on a hardware fakeraid raid 0... hah... never tell me I can't do something04:28
robotgeekRazor-X: hmm, how would i Fcc to a file?04:28
MarcNdooglus: the vncpassword is not the same as your user password.  it is stored in ~/.vnc/passwd04:28
Razor-Xrobotgeek: add a filename to the FCC field, of course :P04:28
SEJeffpsusi: Define they04:28
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Ep|phanyanyone know how to run tightvnc?04:28
benkong2anyone got a good site for installing enlightenment on breezy? I can't get the soulmachine.net/ unstable to work. apt-get says Ign when I do apt-get update04:28
psusiSEJeff, anyone I told that I was trying ;)04:28
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MarcNEp|phany: client or server side?04:29
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dylan_can somebody help me?  my cd drive says that it can burn at 52x, i have edited the hdparm.conf and bootmisc.sh files accordingly to what people and the ubuntu wiki have told me, and yet i cannot burn as fast as i may under Windows XP.  any help is appreciated.04:29
MarcNEp|phany: usually just xtightvncviewer hostname:1 or tightvncserver to start a server04:29
SEJeffpsusi: You will learn to love the grub shell once it saves your butt a time or two04:29
psusiit was like as soon as they saw mention of raid, their brain shut down and their auto reply was "that kind of raid isn't supported"04:29
psusioh hell yea04:30
psusiit didn't quite default the right parameters the first time04:30
SEJeffpsusi: AND your time04:30
robotgeekRazor-X: hmm, the file was recieved.04:30
psusiso I dropped to the shell and fixed it04:30
_native_SEJeff:K04:30
Razor-Xrobotgeek: like it was saved?04:30
dooglusMarcN: we're talking about vino, not vnc, and it seems to be stored in gconfd04:30
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robotgeekRazor-X: i said test message as the subject. it seemed to gone through. but not thru nsmtpd?04:31
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dooglusMarcN: at any rate, I see a new entry ADD 1728053320 "def" "/apps/gnome-settings/vino" in my .gconfd/saved_state04:31
Razor-Xpsusi: GRUB with RAID?04:31
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Razor-Xpsusi: my solution for that is mdadm04:31
GarrettRazor-X: Suggestions for this crappy problem?04:32
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psusiRazor-X: yes... hardware fakeraid... my motherboard has a via sata raid controller that worked great in windows04:32
Razor-XGarrett: have you checked your devices.map, like psusi said?04:32
psusiwith a proprietary driver04:32
pppoe_dudehi all, im having A/V sync problems encoding from realvideo to xvid (or any other for that matter). What should be the fps setting for a real video?04:32
Razor-Xpusling: ahhh04:32
pppoe_dude(using mencoder)04:32
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Razor-Xmdadm works pretty well too, from what i've used04:32
psusinow I can dual boot windows and ubuntu on the raid004:32
dylan_can somebody help me?  my cd drive says that it can burn at 52x, i have edited the hdparm.conf and bootmisc.sh files accordingly to what people and the ubuntu wiki have told me, and yet i cannot burn as fast as i may under Windows XP.  any help is appreciated.04:32
psusiRazor-X, you can't boot from an mdraid raid 0 ;)04:32
GarrettChanged hd1 to sda04:32
pppoe_dudehere is the command i used04:33
GarrettAnd then I'm doing the map (hd0) (hd1) still in menu.lst04:33
SEJeffpsusi: If you ever do serious data depends on it raid with linux, use 3ware04:33
pppoe_dude mencoder ./out2old.ram -o chem1rec.avi -fps 15 -oac mp3lame -ovc xvid -xvidencopts pass=1 bitrate=80004:33
Razor-Xpsusi: you can with a few tweaks04:33
SEJeffRazor-X: custom initrd?04:33
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psusiRazor-X: you can boot from a raid-1 partition, then mount the rest of the disk as raid004:34
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Razor-Xat least Linux you can04:34
psusibut /boot has to be on a raid1 or non raid partition04:34
core77hi when i try to lauch gparted i cant this error Core77@core:~$ sudo gparted04:34
Razor-Xpsusi: oh, it wasn't? ouchies04:34
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Razor-X:P04:34
psusiif you are using mdraid that is04:34
core77Erreur de segmentation04:34
Xlylithhwllo04:35
[linner] SEJeff:  I'm trying Kubuntu now...04:35
psusibecause grub needs to be able to read /boot, which it can't do if it is on a raid004:35
SEJeff[linner] : I'm sorry04:35
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psusibut with hardware fakeraid, the bios takes care of it so grub can access the whole raid04:35
[linner] SEJeff:  why?04:35
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core77...04:35
Razor-Xcore77: Je parle un peu francais, mais, alle a #ubuntu-fr si vous parlez en francais04:36
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XlylithDoes anyone know how to fix incorrect version of packages retrieved by my synaptic, or at least point me to the docs? or Manula?04:36
SEJeff[linner] : I'm just kidding. But I'm not a kde fan. It's too cluttered for my taste04:36
=== Razor-X hopes that came out right
dooglusXlylith: what's the problem?04:36
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XlylithI try to install konquerror04:36
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core77razor i speak english just ran the installation in french04:36
dooglusXlylith: what does "apt-cache policy konqueror" show you?04:36
[linner] SEJeff:  yeah, I agree... but its going much further than ubuntu has... so I thought I could get the other desktop version later04:36
Xlylithbut it seems I try to retrieve different file version with the server04:36
LudahWhat system is required to run Ubuntu?04:36
Razor-Xcore77: I hate you :P04:36
[linner] Ludah:  What do you mean?04:37
core77i luv u04:37
SEJeff[linner] : The hardware detection is shared between ubuntu/kubuntu04:37
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Razor-Xcore77: did my sentence come out right?04:37
bob2Ludah: gnome requires something like 128MB of ram and a p204:37
ubuntuHi, can I plug togethe 2 partitions. My hda9 and hda10 have 194 MB and I want increase hda9 (root partition)?04:37
Razor-Xcore77: cool04:37
core77sure perfect04:37
Ludah[linner]  : Hardware requirement04:37
x86iIs there any real benefit to installing apache/mysql/php with apt-get, over compiling source? Other then a way to upgrade easily?04:37
bob2Ludah: Orborde equivalent ppc/ia-64 hardware04:37
[linner] SEJeff:  I wonder why I'm having more success04:37
ubuntuops: . <->?04:37
_Dezwhats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu04:37
Razor-Xgood, now I can send people to #ubuntu-fr ! :)04:37
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bob2ubuntu: are they immedialy after it?04:37
core77lol04:37
ubuntuyes04:37
ubuntubob2: yeap04:38
BeGu_Dez, ubuntu has gnome dektop and kubuntu KDE04:38
dooglusbob2: I don't think GNOME needs much of a CPU - I've seen it run OK on very old CPUs04:38
bob2x86i: and saving you hours and meaning someone else does security fixes for you04:38
_Dezo04:38
MarcNx86i: apt-get is simpler for most folks.  means you don't have to track security updates04:38
_Dezwhich ones better for a P26604:38
bob2dooglus: hm, ok, I've never gnome below a p3-450 myself04:38
ubuntubob2: resize2fs does it?04:38
Razor-Xdooglus: can it run on my P100? :)04:38
bob2ubuntu: or parted04:38
core77but do you know something about my problem04:38
Ludahbub2: ok, I just installed it on a P2 300, with 64MB RAM and it's working far from good =/04:38
bob2Ludah: 64mb of ram will make gnome suck a lot04:38
x86ibob2: Yeah, I figured that, but does it impose any limitations over source compiled? Is it less optimized? I doubt it, but it never hurts to ask04:38
ubuntubob2: sudo parted? I am runing Live CD04:38
Razor-Xbob2: yeah, bub :)04:39
dooglusRazor-X: probably.  memory is much more critical than CPU power for GNOME imho04:39
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psusinow to build me a phat rescue initrd04:39
bob2x86i: no04:39
Ludahbob2: so I notised =(  well, have to look for another distro04:39
BeGuLudah, maybe you should try dsl?04:39
gwark P2 300 ??  ouch .. mebbe try DSL for that machine04:39
Razor-Xdooglus: came with 8 MB of RAM, upgraded to 40 MB04:39
ubuntuAh, is it possible install Breezy from Live CD or just from install CD?04:39
bob2ubuntu: you'd need to install it...04:39
bob2Ludah: huh?04:39
bob2ubuntu: no04:39
Razor-XLudah: no you don't04:39
Xlylithdooglus: it showed 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu5 0 at breezy updates but 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu4 0 at main packages04:39
psusiubotu: yes, but it's a bit more tricky04:39
ubotupsusi: Are you smoking crack?04:39
bob2Ludah: use something other than gnome if you don't like it04:39
dooglusRazor-X: 40Mb would be a problem no matter what CPU you used04:39
blankmy windows just got effed up right now (right before me installing ubuntu), I have two 40 gig drives, if I Install ubuntu on one, and then install windows on the other (in that order), will my boot loader work?04:39
ubuntubob2: No, that I can not install Breezy?04:39
Razor-Xdooglus: yeah, ezzatly04:39
intelikeygwark kde runs fine on a p13304:39
psusiubotu: lol... some would say so, yes ;)04:39
ubotupsusi: No idea04:39
bob2ubuntu: you cannot (easily) install from a livecd, no04:39
Razor-Xblank: other way 'round04:40
ubuntubob2: Install parted? how can I do it form live CD?04:40
Ludahbob2: I didn't have a choise, it installed gnome without asking04:40
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blankI know, but I dont have the windows disk with me04:40
ubuntubob2: from*04:40
Razor-Xblank: windows first then linux for the best results04:40
intelikeygranted you do wait on a few things to load....04:40
bob2ubuntu: with apt...04:40
dooglusXlylith: in hoary?04:40
gwarkintelikey ... your using KDE in ubuntu rather than gnome?04:40
Razor-Xblank: :(04:40
bob2Ludah: yes, that is the default04:40
blankI know...but I dont hav the disc with me, I'm so pissed04:40
Xlylithbreezy04:40
ubuntubob2: ok04:40
bob2Ludah: if you want someting else, install it04:40
ubuntubob2: thks04:40
blankBut listen04:40
[linner] SEJeff:  do i deal with the xserver on kubuntu?04:40
blankI have windows installed04:40
intelikeynot in ub in mdk gwark04:40
psusiyou can install from a livecd... provided you don't mind running a few command lines04:40
Xlylithdooglus: I use breezy04:40
Razor-Xblank: Windows installers eat up the MBR as if they owned the bloody thing04:40
bob2blank: please ask your entire question on one line04:40
psusiand have network access04:40
SEJeff[linner] : Yes04:40
Razor-Xblank: but it's not in your boot menu?04:40
blankokay, if I install ubuntu on my other clean drive, and then I 'install, or reinstall' windows on the other, wouldn't the entries be the same? and therefore work?04:41
gwarkintelikey  ... far as i know mdk was a shoot-em-up game :)04:41
bob2psusi: yes, but debootstrap is more fiddling than I think people who need to ask will be able to deal with04:41
blankaww they do04:41
Razor-Xblank: MBR is irrespective of drive, so it won't really help04:41
[linner] SEJeff:  so if i had a problem with the video card initially then i most likely will with kubuntu also....?04:41
blankman I'm so pissed, I wont be able to do it until tomorrow then04:41
dooglusXlylith: you need to "sudo apt-get update" then.  breezy's updates have 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu6 now04:41
x86iblank: install linux over the windows, then install windows later. When windows over writes the MBR, use the cd to install GRUB again.04:41
blank*pissed pissed pissed*04:41
Ludahbob2: and uninstall gnome?  Well I wouldn't know where to begin04:41
intelikeyin ub gwark i'm x-less atm04:41
bob2Ludah: then just install something else04:41
gwark;] 04:41
Xlylithdooglus: I have04:41
blankx86i: :D, how can I install grub again with the CD04:41
Razor-Xintelikey: a suggestion if you like X is to use twin in the meantime04:42
dooglusXlylith: any errors from "sudo apt-get update"?04:42
psusibob2: possibly... if someone is asking though, best to explain and let them decide if they are that determined to do it ;)04:42
x86iblank: When you boot from the ubuntu cd, type 'expert'04:42
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Xlyliththe usual BADSIG error04:42
SEJeff[linner] : Why yep04:42
ubuntubob2: parted comes with Live CD of Breezy :)04:42
Razor-Xblank: ah yes, I forgot about that step :004:42
x86iblank: it will give you more options04:42
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LudahBeGu: dsl?04:42
Razor-X*:)04:42
[linner] SEJeff:  once i get to the point where the xserver craps out, are you able to help me with that?04:42
BeGuLudah, damn small linux04:42
blankx86i: wouldn't that reinstall ubuntu?04:42
Ep|phanyhow can i tell what video card i have04:42
Xlylithdooglus: the usual BADSIG GPG error04:42
blankwhen I choose expert, can I choose to 'only' install grub?04:42
bob2Ep|phany: look at your receipt04:42
[linner] SEJeff:  i just got finished creating the partitions and it looks like it's about to install04:42
bob2Ep|phany: what are you trying to do?04:42
LudahBeGu: ok, I will look it up on distrowatch, thx04:43
intelikeyRazor-X 'IF' i install x, it will probably be flux or k   but i'm not really planning on it.04:43
bob2blank: please don't choose expert mode04:43
x86iblank: No, you can install grub, then abort the installtion, and reboot. Grub will remain. Just dont install the base system.04:43
blankwhy not04:43
Ep|phanyi just want to see if my vid card can run a certain game04:43
Razor-XLudah: you don't need to04:43
blankah okay04:43
bob2blank: because there's no point and you'll end up with a weird system04:43
blankbob2: Why not?04:43
Ep|phanybut someone just gave me this notepad and i dont know the specs04:43
blankwhat do you mean04:43
LudahRazor-X: What do you recommend?04:43
Razor-XLudah: you don't have enough power for GTK?04:43
blankIt's only for installing grub, once it's installed, I'm going to abort the installation04:43
Razor-Xintelikey: nicers :)04:43
bob2blank: I mean, you don't understand what it does, so don't do it until you do04:43
bob2blank: then do a default install04:43
dooglusXlylith: fix the badsig error then...  "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release; sudo apt-get update""04:43
blankI understand what it does...04:43
Ep|phanyso is there away i can check what video card i have04:43
bob2blank: walk through to the partitioning stage, and then chroot into your system from another terminal04:44
bob2Ep|phany: depends04:44
bob2Ep|phany: lspci perhaps04:44
LudahRazor-X: I have 64MB RAM and Gnome eats up my hd04:44
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bob2blank: you understand what it does? really?04:44
Razor-XLudah: ahhh04:44
blankx86i: is there any other ways to install grub?04:44
Razor-XLudah: try Xubuntu04:44
Ep|phanywill device manager do the trick04:44
ubuntuHey, for use parted, does someone know what is MINOR? "resize MINOR START END"04:44
x86ibob2: The issue blank is having is that he has to install windows AFTER linux, and windows over writes the MBR. This method will get GRUB installed again.04:44
robotgeekRazor-X: not working, still.04:44
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Razor-Xrobotgeek: you FCC'd the file, I presume?04:44
blankexactly what x86i said :)04:44
dooglusXlylith: ubotu has more extreme advice for fixing the gpg error - but I'd like to know if what I told you does the trick.04:44
blankx86i: any other ways to install grub?04:44
LudahRazor-X: ok, witch window manager does it use?04:45
bob2blank: that's got nothing to do with expert mode04:45
Razor-XLudah: XFce04:45
bob2blank: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows04:45
blankright now im on windows, and it's totatly messed up, spyware crawled into me like a virus lol04:45
x86iblank: None less complicated. Not unless you know how to make a bootable floppy.04:45
Xlylithdooglus: thx, I'll try04:45
dooglusXlylith: let me know if it works.04:45
_native_omg the bug i just found i so funny it can only be seen not dscribed.04:45
blankyes, but I'd like grub installed04:45
LudahRazor-X: ok, I will look it up but it has to be a really easy window manager04:45
intelikeyblank do you have any linux os installed ?04:45
Razor-X_native_: screenshot it, baby :)04:45
dooglus_native_: make a screendump?04:45
bob2blank: read that page then04:45
blankubuntu04:45
blankkay thanks bob204:45
Razor-XLudah: it's pretty user-friendly04:45
robotgeekRazor-X: yes, do you want me to paste it somewhere?04:46
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intelikeyblank then boot ub and run grub-install04:46
Razor-Xrobotgeek: no no no, that's fine04:46
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psusilet's see... what nice things should go into a rescue initrd?  fdisk and ntfsresize... what else?  hrm...04:46
Razor-Xrobotgeek: try using the nbsmtp parameters I ganve you and append a `` < mail'' where mail is the filename of you mail04:46
x86iblank: That method  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows is the best.04:46
megabyzushow does one start a terminal in ubuntu04:46
ubuntublank: Do you know what is this MINOR ?04:46
megabyzusi want to execute commands.04:46
_native_video of it is the only thing im telling you, im rotfl.04:46
bob2megabyzus: applications -> accesseroies...04:46
robotgeekRazor-X: hmm, i did not think of that04:46
bob2megabyzus: what are you planning to do?04:47
dooglusmegabyzus: one clicks applications->system-tools->terminal04:47
megabyzusbob2 of course04:47
blankubuntu: what?04:47
Razor-Xrobotgeek: this is to see whether it's mutt that's screwing up or nbsmtp04:47
megabyzusthanks04:47
intelikeypsusi mke2fs ?04:47
robotgeekRazor-X: that seems to have worked, lemme see if it actually delivered it04:47
dooglusmegabyzus: ignore me.  bob2's right.04:47
Razor-Xpsusi: SystemRescueCD is good enough for me for a rescue disc04:47
ubuntublank: Inside parted program for resize, do you know th emeaning of MINOR?04:47
blankx86i , bob2: Thanks guys04:47
psusiI suppose for a more general rescue image... but I only use ext2 for /boot... and I might stop doing that at some point...04:47
x86iBlank: or, http://grub4dos.sourceforge.net/ can help. its a windows grub installer.04:47
intelikeypsusi bash/busybox04:47
blankI've heard of it, but I'm sorry, I dont04:47
dooglusbut...  why do I have a applications->system-tools->terminal menu entry which doesn't work???04:47
Xlylithdooglus: sorry, but it doesnt't work04:48
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_native_how could i record what it does on the scree?04:48
[linner] SEJeff:  ever used Open SuSE?04:48
dooglusXlylith: what happens?04:48
_native_*screen04:48
Xlylithdooglus: I still get the wrong version of konqueror04:48
bob2dooglus: guess it didn't get removed when it should have04:48
psusiRazor-X: I don't want to have to boot from a cd... so I'm adding toys to a new initramfs that I can have grub boot from the hard disk and manipulate the partitions and whatnot04:48
ubuntublank: Ok, you must have typed wrongly: 03:45 < blank> ubuntu04:48
bob2_native_: in X?04:48
blankwindows grub installer aye, and I'd install that while using windows? If that's the case I'll just wait, I'm running windows now and it's like being a Jew sneaking into a nazi camp04:48
_native_yes04:48
Razor-X_native_: is it in X?04:48
psusiintelikey, that's already in the initramfs04:48
SEJeff[linner] : I stopped using suse at 8.304:48
intelikeypsusi you use mke2fs for ext3 you know04:48
bob2_native_: istanbul is one option04:48
dooglusXlylith: did the update show you gpg errors again?04:48
blankubuntu: I was saying the OS I had, someone had asked04:48
Razor-Xpsusi: hmmm... that's a nice idea04:48
[linner] SEJeff:  how come?04:48
XlylithWhen I sudo apt-get update, I still get the wrong version04:48
Xlylithdooglus: nope04:48
SEJeff[linner] : Wanted to try redhat04:48
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Razor-Xpsusi: can you make something that can mount a CD image and boot a floppy at the same time?04:49
dooglusXlylith: which mirror are you using?04:49
pramzhello everyone :-)04:49
Razor-Xpsusi: that lies on an existing partition?04:49
psusiintelikey: I'm using resierfs... going to repartition a bit and do some testing of resier4 I think04:49
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[linner] SEJeff:  did you like it when you used it?04:49
ubuntublank: Ok, cause the line appeared on irssi as if you typed to me :-D04:49
Xlylithid.archive.ubuntu.com04:49
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[linner] SEJeff:  i'm downloading it now04:49
SEJeff[linner] : Eventually fell in love with fedora and later found ubuntu. Ubuntu is the best in my opinion for a linux desktop04:49
psusiRazor-X: what do you mean mount a cd and boot a floppy?04:49
chuck87does someone have a serial of vmware beta 5.504:49
chuck87?04:49
blankhey guys, I've heard so much about irssi, what is it04:49
Xlylithdooglus: I use id.archive.ubuntu.com04:49
_native_bob2: whats that and where?04:49
pramzSEJeff, i agree, I have recommended it to a few people already :)04:49
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psusiI also don't have a floppy drive... they are obsolete piles of shit and I'm glad to see them go04:49
blankAnyone know how to host an IRC?04:50
SEJeff[linner] : The guys at work use SUSE 10 (OpenSUSE) and I think it sucks honestly04:50
intelikeyblank irc client04:50
dabaRblank: an irc in the terminal.04:50
blanka04:50
psusiI wrote a floppy disk driver once for ReactOS... man they suck04:50
blank*ah04:50
blankthanks04:50
Razor-Xpsusi: hahahaha, floppies kick ass04:50
bob2_native_: uh, apt-cache search, www.freshmeat.net04:50
Xlylithdooglus: shoul I try another mirror?04:50
chuck87does someone have a serial of vmware beta 5.504:50
[linner] SEJeff:  yeah i agree... I'm running it on an older gateway... it's perfect... but for my laptop so far it sucks04:50
bob2blank: an irc client that everyone uses04:50
bob2chuck87: you will not be warned again04:50
megabyzusok i have package i want to install with a .deb extension04:50
[linner] SEJeff:  so i was thinking maybe i should try another that might have it right for my laptop04:50
megabyzus'what do i do with it?04:50
blankoh it is? I'm using xchat04:50
_native_bob2: universe or multi?04:50
dooglusXlylith: I'm just checking...04:50
psusiI hate floppies with a passion04:50
Razor-Xpsusi: not everyone can afford a $20 USB stick04:50
bob2megabyzus: what are you trying to do?04:50
SEJeff[linner] : Fedora04:50
dooglusXlylith: what version is it installing?04:50
robotgeekRazor-X: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/433904:50
psusiRazor-X: is that supposed to be a joke? ;)04:50
[linner] SEJeff:  is it easy to use?04:50
Razor-Xpsusi: think of age groups when you think of floppies :)04:51
megabyzusi'm installing skype...there is a ubuntu version i downloaded04:51
intelikeyget all your warez at ftp://localhost.localdomain04:51
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SEJeff[linner] : Very. It uses gnome 2.1004:51
robotgeekRazor-X: output of nbsmtp04:51
[linner] SEJeff:  what makes it better than SuSE?04:51
psusiyou can hardly EAT for $20... if you aren't a starving cambodian, you can afford a usb memory stick ;)04:51
[linner] SEJeff:  don't you have to pay for Fedora?04:51
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psusithat reminds me... I should go buy one of those04:51
psusiI usually just use cds or the Internet04:51
SEJeff[linner] : It *actually* has a community around it. It is free also04:51
bob2$20 could be a week's food if you're frugal04:52
Razor-Xrobotgeek: can I see your string with the password X'd ?04:53
dabaRpsusi: why would you need a stick....there is sftp...04:53
[linner] psusi:  buy what?  a starving cambodian??? :)04:53
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blankshould I be afraid of my windows 'infections' spreading over to linux?04:53
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psusilol04:53
[linner] SEJeff:  oh wow... cool.... that's the primary reason i came back to ubuntu... for the community04:53
SEJeffblank: no04:53
nemikhello everyone04:53
Xlylithdooglus: It try to install version ubuntu504:53
blankthey'd be on separate drives, but I can format my drive if I should04:53
robotgeekRazor-X: the password is blanked ot04:53
dabaR [linner]  yes, buy a starving cambodian.04:53
Razor-Xpsusi: or you're a 15 year old whose income is bottlenecked by parents, that's there too04:53
psusi[linner] , a usb memory stick04:53
robotgeekRazor-X: or encrypted04:53
[linner] dabaR:  hehehe :)04:53
SEJeff[linner] : The Ubuntu community tops ANY linux distro minus debian04:53
dabaRbob2: so...04:53
dooglusXlylith: there's no ubuntu5 version on the mirror you're using.04:53
[linner] psusi:  i was making a jobke04:53
Razor-Xrobotgeek: yeah, either way04:53
linkdw0ot04:53
[linner] psusi:  joke ;)04:53
intelikeyhmmm it would cost me a lot more than $20 to use a usb mem stick......  i'd have to have a box with a usb interface....04:53
nemikanyone know the 'default keyring password' i keep getting asked for from the printer utility?04:53
psusiRazor-X, even 15 year olds can scratch up $20... they do it all the time to buy music cds with04:53
bob2dabaR: ?04:53
psusi[linner] , it was funny ;)04:53
Razor-Xpsusi: I don't04:53
dooglusXlylith: do a "sudo apt-get clean" to clear out your apt package cache04:53
[linner] SEJeff:  and being that it's based on Debian then it's probably hand in hand :)04:53
Razor-Xpsusi: I don't own a single music CD :)04:53
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[linner] psusi:  laughing on the inside? :)04:53
Xlylithdooglus: ok04:53
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Razor-Xpsusi: my parents don't like me spending any money I have on frivolities (not that we can't afford them or anything)04:53
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psusi[linner] , no... outloud actually...04:53
SEJeff[linner] : exactly04:53
[linner] psusi:  hehehehe04:53
=== psusi can't imagine not owning a cd
[linner] SEJeff:  cross your fingers for me... it's still going... maybe JUST maybe I can get it to work04:53
psusiI was so glad when cds came out... tapes sucked so much04:53
Razor-Xpsusi: nor do I own a sigle comic book to name, I own some books though (I love reading, of course)04:53
_native_beep-media-player seems slower than xmms e.g. scrolling lag, moving around the screen lags etc...04:53
=== intelikey doesn't own any cda
SEJeffpsusi: DLT owns04:54
=== MarcN never owned a CD until I was 21.
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dabaRpsusi: cds suck worse even...04:54
nemikgood thing you're on linux...cough, $sys$ cough....04:54
psusiSEJeff: I  mean music casset tapes ;)04:54
MarcN'course they weren't invented until then...04:54
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Razor-XMarcN: did you ever notice that your sentence shifted from third to first person?04:54
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psusiSEJeff: but tapes for backup suck too... they allways work untill the moment you go to restore from them ;)04:54
megabyzusbob2 u still with me...(:)?04:54
nemikanyone know the 'default keyring password' i keep getting asked for from the printer utility?04:54
Razor-X:)04:54
Xlylithdooglus: should I try another mirror?04:54
MarcNRazor-X: yes he noticed it. ;-)04:54
robotgeekRazor-X: i don't believe this. i was messing up my password!04:54
SEJeffpsusi: That is what a BC plan is for... you test your backups every other month or so04:54
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psusiand all the slow seeking is a pain04:54
Razor-Xrobotgeek: I made an even worse mistake, and it took me 3 hours to figure it out04:55
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psusiSEJeff, yea... and the tests allways pass04:55
bob2megabyzus: ?04:55
Cindyhi guys can anyone here knows about Berkeley DB?04:55
Razor-XMarcN: :P04:55
blankI uh...wanna format this drive (since it has windows and ubuntu on it). I'm gonna install ubuntu on my other drive, and I dont want any conflicts04:55
psusithen the second you are done with a successfull test, your drive crashes, and you go to restore from the tape, and it's dead... heh04:55
dooglusXlylith: the mirror you're using is really just archive.ubuntu.com - it's fine04:55
blankin windows, what's the format command04:55
megabyzusbob2 ....do you know what to do with *.deb files?04:55
bob2Cindy: best to just ask your question04:55
blankformat C:/ ?04:55
Razor-Xblank: I think so, IIRC04:55
megabyzusbob2 i downloaded skype and wnat to install it04:55
dooglusXlylith: you could try following this advice:04:55
bob2megabyzus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype04:55
dooglus!gpgerr04:55
ubotuIf you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.04:55
blankdpkg -i package04:55
robotgeekRazor-X: damn, all this while,my postfix was working. i can't believe i did this!04:55
megabyzusbob2 thanks!04:56
bob2megabyzus: also, in future, it's simpler if you state your full problem, instead of some small sliver of it04:56
_native_SEJeff: you run selinux right and if so just on severs?04:56
blankRazor-X: what?04:56
Razor-Xrobotgeek: :)04:56
robotgeekRazor-X: thanks for your help!04:56
Razor-Xblank: format C:\ should work04:56
Cindyi want to install berkeley db to my ubuntu but i dont know how is the proper way04:56
blankhey guys I really need to frickin erase this drive, what's the best way04:56
SEJeffpsusi: We have one of those tape robots and some crazy shell scripts to copy off random files, check the md5, and then put them back where they belong04:56
psusiblank, what do you need to erase it for?04:56
SEJeff_native_: I run SELinux on my servers, not on ubuntu. It isn't really integrated with ubuntu yet04:56
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[linner] SEJeff:  can you help me ... once i get there ... tell the laptop to use another video driver?  I'm using the ATI 200m in my v2000z... and I know that's what crapped out the xserver before... but honestly can't remember how to do it all again... :(04:56
psusiSEJeff, a big system like that probably works well... I've just had cheapo consumer tape backups04:56
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blankbecause I dont want any conflicts when I install ubuntu on my other drive (since it's already installed on this one) and I'm going to erase it anyways when I install windows again04:57
ce_sma_jmblhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii04:57
kevmanCan ubotu tell me what repo a package is in?04:57
[linner] SEJeff:  tritium helped me do it before and it was a bi-otch  :)04:57
dabaRblank: its put in the cd into the drive...04:57
_native_SEJeff: its in the kernel though so wouldnt it just be a matter of writing and compiling policies?04:57
MarcNCindy: apt-get install libdb3 libdb3-dev04:57
blankor should I just erase it when I install windows04:57
blankdabaR: what?04:57
psusia long time ago I had an 80 MB QIC-80 tape drive... then I got a 2 gig scsi DAT drive04:57
megabyzusbob2 that link is asking for 'Personal Security manager' PSM04:57
dabaRblank: to format a drive, just put the installation cd into the drive.04:57
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FXRS|LaptopHello04:57
blankIf I keep this installation of ubuntu on one drive, and I install ubuntu on the other drive, will tere be conflicts?04:58
bob2megabyzus: why are you using mozilla or firefox without ssl supporT?04:58
SEJeff_native_: just a matter of writing and compiling policies... I see you've never played with selinux have you?04:58
blankdabaR: I know, but I'm not going to be using the drive today, okay listen04:58
MarcNpsusi: I installed my first linux on a 120M disk.04:58
intelikeyblank to overwrite an entire drive as root or with sudo "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hd? "04:58
robotgeekRazor-X: cool, both postfix and nbstmp work. though nbsmtp was really really simple!04:58
megabyzusbob2 i'm using this 'as-is' installed vanilla ubuntu04:58
FXRS|LaptopWonder if I could ask a question about an error I'm getting while running apt-get update?04:58
SEJeff_native_: SELinux is in the mainline kernel. The policies are the hardest part04:58
_native_SEJeff: no only grsecurity.04:58
dabaRFXRS|Laptop: no, you cant.04:58
FXRS|Laptop:D04:58
psusiMarcN: I think mine was 80 MB ;)04:58
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CindyMarcN: error occurred...E: Package libdb3-dev has no installation candidate04:58
dooglusa big telecoms company I was working for went 3 years or so not having any backups at all.  one team wrote the backup script to lock all the databases and source control and dump tarballs into /dump; another team copied the contents of /DUMP onto tar.  both teams did this religeously for 3 years, not realising that /dump and /DUMP were different places!04:58
Xlylithdooglus: is it possible that my problem caused by my ISP's proxy server04:58
Cindywaht does it mean?04:58
doogluslucky there was never a disaster...04:58
psusiit was slackware04:58
FXRS|LaptopHere is the error......04:59
dabaRFXRS|Laptop: ask ubotu about gpgerr in private message.04:59
psusicirca 199504:59
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MarcNpsusi: well that 120 had windows on some of it ;-)   SLS from floppies.04:59
_native_SEJeff: i know policies in selinux seem hard thats why i like grsecurity and rsbac.04:59
blankI have two drives, on one, I have a messed up installation of windows and a partition for ubuntu. I'm going to install windows on it, but I dont have the cd atm, so I cant right now. Instead, I'm going to install ubuntu on my other drive, but I'd like to erase this one so there wont be any conflicts. How may I do that04:59
ubuntu_sweet :)04:59
MarcNCindy: then install one of the libdb4.x packages.   apt-get search libdb  or use synaptic04:59
Xlylithdooglus: I am affraid I got the wrong package list because it is cached in the proxy04:59
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kevman!tell me about mplayer04:59
dooglusXlylith: it's possible, yes.  look here with a web browser: http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/ -- do you see #  konqueror_3.4.3-0ubuntu6_i386.deb ?05:00
Cindyok thanks MarcN your such a good one05:00
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Xlylithyes05:00
SEJeff_native_: But SELinux is the future, not grsecurity05:00
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psusiMarcN, I remember when I got a nice 486SX/25 with an 80 gig drive... DOS couldn't handle partitions more than 40 MB so you had to break it in two... heh05:00
blankanyone, please05:00
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[linner] ubotu is dumb05:00
ubotu[linner] : Did you get hit by a windmill?05:00
MarcNpsusi: mine was the rocking /33!05:00
blankI have two drives, on one, I have a messed up installation of windows and a partition for ubuntu. I'm going to install windows on it, but I dont have the cd atm, so I cant right now. Instead, I'm going to install ubuntu on my other drive, but I'd like to erase this one so there wont be any conflicts. How may I do that05:00
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_native_SEJeff: yeah its unavoidable since its in mainline.05:00
snausageshey all, how can i check if my CDs were shipped or not05:00
Xlylithdooglus: when I manually browse the web, I see the packages05:00
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psusiblank, you don't need to05:01
dabaR[linner] : did you get hit by a windmill?05:01
FXRS|Laptophmm how do I ask the bot?05:01
SEJeff_native_: And backed by redhat, ibm, and the nsa05:01
blankpussi: I dont? so there wont be any conflicts?05:01
blank*psusi05:01
psusiblank, shouldn't be05:01
[linner] dabaR:  apparently i did... kept pming it and it told me not to post in mainstream channel05:01
[linner] stupid bot05:01
_native_SEJeff: are there tools being developed to ease configuration?05:01
Xlylithdooglus: btw, what is the timestamp of the current Packages.gz?05:01
_jasonsnausages, launchpad let's you know when they were sent to the shipping company if you log in05:01
intelikeyblank use sudo cfdisk /dev/hd?   and delete any partitions on the disk in question then make new partition/s and they will be empty partitions    then mkfs the new partition   or use the installers partition editor and do the same...05:01
blankhmm...okay, but I'm still scared :'(05:01
dabaRFXRS|Laptop: in private, you have to be registered, /msg nickserv help register is the command for irc05:01
Xlylithdooglus: mine is 24 Oktober05:01
FXRS|LaptopYep I'm reg.05:01
shadeofgreyokay guys... is there anybody here thats familiar with using the very basic server install of ubuntu?05:01
SEJeff_native_: The fedora tools aren't bad for configuring selinux for apache05:01
dabaRFXRS|Laptop: then /msg ubotu gpgerr05:01
psusiif you REALLY want to blank the disk, run dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda05:01
blankintelikey: you're too smart :( I just wanna erase the whole drive, in windows, it's format C:/ ?05:01
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blankokay, but I still dont see how I can do that while actually issueing that command from that disck05:02
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blankwouldn't it like...kill itself05:02
dabaRformat c:\05:02
psusiblank, you can't do it while running windows off that drive05:02
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agtnzshadeofgrey: are you looking for a minimal desktop or for an actual server install?05:02
dooglusXlylith: which Packages.gz?05:02
blankso should I do it with knoppix?05:02
blankknoppix?05:02
intelikeyblank if you delete the partition it will effectively erace the drive...05:02
shadeofgrey....that also would take the time to talk to a relative newbie?  im pretty versed in using the full desktop version to get things done05:02
dabaRblank: yes05:02
blankactually I'll use ubuntu live05:02
psusiyou can not format c: while running windows from c:05:03
_native_SEJeff: see thats what frustrates me, the difficulty in policy writing.05:03
blanklol yeah I was wondering that05:03
blankokay so I'm gonna do it through ubuntu live, that's okay right?05:03
snausages_jason, when i go to launchpad, where can i check about the shipment05:03
_Dezhow do i uninstall ICEWM05:03
Xlylithdooglus: the one in breezy update05:03
FX|Laptopthanks for the help.05:03
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dabaR_Dez: how do you install anything?05:03
blankactually kubuntu took a while to install, so I think ubuntu will too, I'll just use knoppix05:03
FX|LaptopI guess my second name isn't reg. lol05:03
dooglusXlylith: you can see the timestamp here: ftp://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i386 -- it's 5th Nov05:03
Daveyblank, if you partition a drive for windows, format c:\ will not erase the entire drive, just that partition05:03
guilhermehey guys, any media player for mpeg videos that is compatible for ubuntu?05:04
jmworxI've got a Dell PowerEdge here and Breezy won't install on it ("can't find the CDROM or something"). Oddly enough, the last Breezy RC works.05:04
_native_SEJeff: i avoided selinux because of that cause if somthing is hard to configure most likely it will result in security holes from admin error.05:04
SEJeff_native_: You can't seriously expect Mandatory Access Control to be "easy" thats why the only other mainline OS with MAC is Trusted Solaris05:04
_DezdabaR apt-get install.. o apt-get uninstall right?05:04
intelikeyblank just boot the ub install disk and when the time comes it will ask you what to do about the partition/s   and tell it you want to manually setup partitions   then delete the old and make new    it's really simple....05:04
dabaRwhy are we talking about windows?05:04
_jasonsnausages, ack sorry... i meant shipit... just go to make a new order and it should be at the top05:04
blankso if the drive is the first one, it'd be, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda05:04
dvhartguilherme, totem/mplayer/xine05:04
nebularI'm attemping to setup printer sharing through cups and samba. previously when I set this up samba would automatically setup the printer from the printcap file, but now I don't seem to have one, how do I set one up?05:04
dooglusXlylith: what do you see for this command: md5sum /var/lib/apt/lists/*ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages05:04
snausages_jason, it just asks me how many cds i want :\05:04
shadeofgreyagtnz:  im looking to create a minimal desktop install designed for the single purpose of becoming a dedicated mailserver -- but im not looking to do everything by commandline... i want Xwindows and Gnome running, just because i only have the use of one hand and typing all the commands id need to really get things going with three fingers on one hand is a daunting task05:04
blankitelikey: Like I've said, I want to erase a different disk, not the one I'm installing ubuntu on05:04
guilhermedvhart: this a package (repositories) , plugin or a binary?05:04
snausageseven though i ordered a long time ago05:05
snausagesi don't even remember when05:05
Xlylithdooglus: then it seems that my ISP's proxy mess this up :-D05:05
blankdd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda erases the whole drive right?05:05
_native_SEJeff: it cant be that hard. you can throw it in targeted mode right as too debug policies?05:05
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intelikeyblank  i know.... just do what i said  it works ......   really    the setup script in ubuntu will let you do that....05:05
Xlylithdooglus: is there any way to get the package list manually and overwrite it to the old one?05:05
_jasonsnausages, mine says: Your previous requests05:05
_jason    * 2005-09-25: 5 CDs (sent to shipping company)05:05
_jason at the top... you logged in with same account?  when did you order?05:05
Shadowpillarquestion05:05
blankI'm so scazred :(05:05
Shadowpillarwhat kernel does breezy use?05:06
Cindyim installing my openLDAP but after i type ./configure something went wrong05:06
SEJeff_native_: Correct, but you need to know the internals of the OS very well.05:06
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Shadowpillar2.6.12?05:06
blankhey, if I install ubuntu on a different drive while already having ubuntu installed on another drive, will there be any conflicts?05:06
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b1n0ryi'm having some problems running the livecd05:06
SEJeff_native_: ajmitch is the SELinux expert, not me05:06
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psusiblank, that will blank the entire drive, yes... though it will be faster just to delete the partitions... and prety much just as effective05:06
Cindyit ask me, configure: error: BDB/HDB: BerkeleyDB not available05:06
intelikeyblank no.05:06
blankso there wont be conflicts05:06
intelikeyblank no.05:06
_Dezhow do i remove icewm05:06
blankokay then I'll just wait until I get my windows cd so I reformat the whole piece of HD05:06
psusidoes bash have a command like pushd/popd?05:06
_Dezi want to run fluxbox instead of icewm05:07
Xenguy_Dez: apt-get remove icewm05:07
b1n0ryi get this nice red failed screen then a list of steps in the livecd boot process. i can choose the next step, but i apparently can't skip the step that's failing05:07
Cindyas far as i know i already had installed libdb4.2 from the synaptic05:07
Xenguy_Dez: --purge is optional05:07
psusioh, it HAS pushd/popd... sweet05:07
_DezThanks05:07
Xenguyyw05:07
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MarcNCindy: what is asking you that?05:07
Cindywhy does these thing happen to me?? :((05:07
_Dezicewm is teh ugly and slow05:07
blankthat's cool right? I can just wait until I get my windows cd to install it on that drive, it'd erase it anyways, and just install ubuntu on the other drive for now, that cool?05:07
b1n0rythe step that fails is "Entering Preinstalled Session"05:07
_native_i do somewhat. no expert i confess but as the saying goes "if you put your mind to it"05:08
Xenguy_Dez: ice is actually pretty lean AFAIK05:08
ShadowpillarI signed up with a valid image request for the shipit system and never got verification05:08
_native_nothing is impossible05:08
MarcNCindy: ah, openldap.  Do you have the libdb4.x-dev installed?05:08
intelikeyblank just boot the install cd and when it asks about the partitions  select manual   and you can blank all your drives from there if you like.   and then just make the partitions you want....   it is real simple.  just read what is on the screen.....05:08
Xenguy_Dez: you probably have old hardware05:08
_native_ill start playing with it.05:08
dooglusXlylith: what dates do you see here: ftp://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i38605:08
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guilhermedvhart: i'm installing, thanks, any aditional plugin for work?05:08
CindyMarcN: the synaptic wont install it05:08
blankintelikey: okay I'll do that buddy :) But I can do that even though I'm installing on another drive right?05:08
blankso I'll blank them, then install on the drive I want :D05:09
blankright?05:09
intelikeyblank correct !05:09
MarcNCindy: won't install the -dev package for which ever libdb you are using?  why?05:09
psusidoes anyone see what's wrong with this?05:09
Xlylithdooglus: it's nov 905:09
blankThanks intelikey I wub you :)05:09
blankhey cindy, I shoot blanks *wink wink*05:09
_native_when i was using hardened gentoo i had a better understanding of it but have focused on other aspects of linux lately.05:09
blankc ya guys!05:09
CindyMarcN: it says its not installable05:09
psusifor x in $PROGS do;05:09
psusicopy_exec `which ${x}` bin05:09
b1n0rythe only thing i can find via google is something about ATI cards, but i don't have an ATI card.05:10
psusidone05:10
blankI'll let ya know how it went intelikey :)05:10
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MarcNCindy: have you done an update lately?05:10
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dooglusXlylith: that's what I see too.  so it's right.05:10
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SEJeff_native_: If you want to endlessly tweak your system, gentoo is great. If you want to get work done, ubuntu is better05:10
CindyMarcN: i use this command apt-get update05:10
dooglusPackages.gz  19 KB  09/11/05  17:35:0005:10
blankanyone know any program for linux that can convert AVI files to DVD Format (to view in a dvd player)05:10
Xenguypsusi: missing a ';'  ?05:10
intelikeythe ' ; ' is on the wrong side of  ' do '05:10
MarcNCindy: apt-get upgrade lately too, right?05:10
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psusiXenguy, where?05:10
_native_SEJeff: nodoubt thats why i stopped using gentoo. ;-] 05:10
Xenguywhat intelikey said05:10
dooglusXlylith: I said 5th Nov didn't I...  I was mistaken.05:10
intelikeypsusi ^05:10
Cindyyeah05:11
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RedRoseWhen I SSH To My Server, It Displays ' As ^a, why?05:11
psusiit is?  hrm...05:11
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gord_blank: you could try Avidemux, allthough i can't guarentee it can do dvd, it can do a lot05:11
SEJeffpsusi: yes take a look at abs05:11
blankDoes anyone know of a program that can convert AVI files to DVD Format (for viewable in a dvd player)05:11
_native_SEJeff: did more compiling than actual work. well it kept the room warm in winter, :-)05:11
blankgord_ thanks05:11
MarcNCindy: which libdb did you use?  try a different one.05:11
blankAvidemux, I'll remember that05:11
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CindyMarcN: havent encountered such problem b4?05:11
gord_its very good :)05:11
blankAvidemux, Avidemux, Avidmux05:11
blankcool05:11
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intelikeypsusi syntax is  " for this in blah ;do $this ;done "05:12
blankhey AVI files aren't windows formats right?05:12
b1n0rydoes anyone have any suggestions for getting the LiveCD to work?05:12
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kalangoe ai?05:12
MarcNCindy: I've not had to install the -dev package for libdb, so no.05:12
RedRoseWhen I SSH To My Server, It Displays ' As ^a, why?05:12
guilhermeola kalango05:12
_native_intelikey: no05:12
blankHey, I'm out, this windows is freaking me out (windows popping out and freezing)05:12
SEJeffpsusi: Just try it in the shell. for file in *; do echo $file; done05:12
gord_pritty much, avi files are old technology. best to stick with encoding to .ogg. you can store subtitles n more audio streams n stuff05:12
kalangooi guilherme...05:12
psusiahh, got it... thanks05:12
kalangoto testando um linux kalango...05:12
guilhermebeleza rapaz? Acho que somos os unicos que falamos portugues aqui05:13
intelikey_native_ ?    what language ?05:13
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CindyMarcN: ah, ok.. but im trying to use centralized server with ldap thats why..:)05:13
kalangomas to querendo saber mais desse ubuntu.05:13
kalangopelo menos dois...05:13
_native_yeah what language? :-] 05:13
SEJeffkalango: #ubuntu-es ?05:13
guilhermehehe, pelo menos.. eu utilizo a pouco tempo05:13
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_native_i thought you where refering to bash scripts.05:13
guilhermept-brasil SEJeff05:13
kalangoo podes me dizer dele05:14
intelikeya bash for command is the syntax i posted ^05:14
RedRoseWhen I SSH To My Server, It Displays ' As ^a, why?05:14
blankwhat's the spanish ubuntu channel05:14
intelikeysyntax is  " for this in blah ;do $this ;done "05:14
kalangoubuntu-pt, SEJeff05:14
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SEJeffkalango: #ubuntu is an english-only channel if I'm not mistaken05:14
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shuvebwhich package contains the utilities unix2dos and dos2unix?05:15
_native_ok your style is a little different than mine.05:15
ReleaseXi just installed networkmanager, but it doesn't seem to be working, there's no aps being found05:15
intelikeydos2unix  :)05:15
SEJeffReleaseX: type nm-applet in a terminal05:15
Xenguyshuveb: dpkg -S dos2unix05:15
guilhermesorry SEJeff, we will talk in an individual window, sorry broke the common rules05:15
shuvebintelikey, there is no such package05:15
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b1n0ryalright, i guess i'm not going to get the livecd to work. too bad, i would have liked to try ubuntu.05:15
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rabeldableanyone alive on here?05:16
shuvebi even have universe and multiverse enabled05:16
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psusihrm...05:16
Xenguyshuveb: sysutils05:16
gord_what is your problem b1n0ry?05:16
livindedcan someone give me some information about this error, http://pastebin.com/42515705:16
shuvebXenguy, thanks! will try05:16
ReleaseXSEJeff:the applet is already running05:16
Xenguyshuveb: yw05:16
b1n0rygord_: i made up the livecd and attempted to boot to it. i got halted up with a nice red failed screen at "Entering Preinstalled Session"05:17
MarcNlivinded: what cpu you using? x86_64?05:17
intelikeyshuveb that was the package name on the linux distros i've installed it on....  i don't know about this ub.  it may be in with something else...05:17
Xenguyshuveb: there's also 'flip' BTW05:17
livindedyes05:17
livindedMarcN: yes05:17
robwWould anyone be kind enough to hazard a guess at why ubuntu 5.10 hangs on shutdown, with the error [4295332.587000]  Restarting System.05:17
shuvebXenguy, yep, thats the package and it worked05:17
b1n0rygord_: then i'm given a list of options to select from... choosing the next step of the process, i guess.05:17
Xenguyshuveb: great05:17
MarcNlivinded: looks like it has a problem with the glibc05:18
rabeldablelivinded edit the linux_installer.sh and add  a -x to enable debug mode for the script that should tell you where its failing at05:18
livindedMarcN: but should that not matter if i use linux32?05:18
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livindedrabeldable: ok 1 sec05:18
b1n0rygord_: i google'd and searched the ubuntu forums. the only thing i found was in relation to ATI video cards, but i don't have an ATI card.05:18
shuvebXenguy, i edited a few files with gedit and when i re-open them in vi, they are littered with ^M chars05:18
shuvebXenguy, i thought dos2unix might help05:18
MarcNlivinded: my advice is to give up playing games.    on my x86_64 servers, I don't run 32bit apps, so never used linux3205:18
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MarcNlivinded: ;-)05:19
SEJeffshuveb: ^M are windows style linebreaks. dos2unix should do the trick05:19
rabeldablethe -x goes after the #!/bin/sh with a space after the sh05:19
Xenguyshuveb: :%s/Ctrl-V Ctrl-M//g05:19
Xenguyshuveb: sorry...05:19
gord_its kinda vauge your problem b1n0ry, are you using any kind of special hardware?05:19
rabeldableif there is no #!/bin/sh try the following command instead05:19
Xenguyshuveb: I'm assuming you're in vi(m) - duh05:19
livinded1 se ci need to copy the disk05:19
rabeldablesh -x linux_installer.sh05:19
livindedok05:20
shuvebXenguy, yeah, im in vim05:20
Xenguyhah05:20
intelikeyall dos2unix does is removes the rclf markup05:20
Xenguyok05:20
rabeldableany mysql people on here?05:20
rabeldablei have a q05:20
shuvebXenguy, will try that as well05:20
SEJeffrabeldable: it have him a segfault, that means it's not going to work05:20
MarcNrabeldable: shoot.05:20
Xenguyshuveb: try the above (backup first if file is important :-)05:20
b1n0rygord_: nope, and i agree it's vague, but that's all the information it gives me. this is a standard iP4HT/1GB with DVD+/-R/W and nVidia graphics card05:20
shuvebXenguy, yeah.. ;)05:20
thomasamohtb1n0ry i tried installing ATi drivers one time, my advice is to be careful, its really easy to mess u X05:20
intelikeyerrr s/rclf/cr,lf/05:20
livindedhttp://pastebin.com/42516205:20
rabeldablemysql:  what is the weird pipe symbol character that I see in some sql statements05:21
b1n0rythomasamoht i'm not installing ATI drivers, i'm just trying to get the LiveCD to boot. i don't have an ATI card.05:21
livindedthats what it gives05:21
thomasamohtoooooohhh05:21
MarcNrabeldable: example?05:21
rabeldableit looks like a pipe, but resembles a lowercase l both upsidedown and right side up05:21
rabeldablel05:21
thomasamohtit doesn't work with your video?05:21
Xenguyshuveb: you actually press the keys, for Ctrl-V etc., yes?05:21
gord_are you sure your cd isn't a bit messed up? it sounds like a pritty solid machine for ubuntu to run on05:21
MarcNrabeldable: I've not seen that.  paste and example.05:21
rabeldableok... nevermind it is a lowercase l05:21
b1n0rythomasamoht i don't know what it doesn't work with. it starts going fine then gives me a red screen that says that it failed "Entering Preinstalled Session"05:22
rabeldableit just looks weird.. i've never seen a lowercase l with hooks like a j05:22
thomasamohthuh05:22
rabeldableok new question.05:22
livindedMarcN: http://pastebin.com/42516205:22
shuvebXenguy, oh, ok - im no power user of vi05:22
b1n0rygord_: on the screen that came up with the choice of next step, one of the steps was to verify the cd media. ran that, and it tested fine. also checked the hashes.05:22
Xenguyshuveb: is it not working?05:22
rabeldablewhat does a lowercase l do when you add it to one of your column names like this  l.column_name05:22
MarcNlivinded: don't know.05:23
Xenguyshuveb: actually, instead of typing the 2 Ctrl-etc things, you can just press the Enter key :-)05:23
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codinhi05:23
Xenguyshuveb: that will reproduce the ^M05:23
MarcNrabeldable: nothing special, just telling which table to use.05:23
codinI use a live cd, how can I become root ?05:23
shuvebXenguy, oh yeah, that would be "\n"05:24
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Xenguyshuveb: OK, but that shouldn't be necessary for this search and replace05:24
robwcodin, sudo bash05:24
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shuvebXenguy, yeah i guess05:24
codinrobw, thanks05:24
robwnap05:24
Xenguyshuveb: is it working at all ?05:24
rabeldablelivinded:  try to run the dos2unix command at the command line05:24
shuvebwell i ran dos2unix first so i cant try it :(05:25
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MarcNrabeldable:  something like this;    select employee.name, jobcodes.title from employee, jobcodes where employee.surname = 'Smith';05:25
thomasamohtanybody know if i can define actions for buttons i press on my ati all in wonder remote? the remote works as a pointer, and volume control works, the launch buttons work for internet etc. but i want to configure the A-F buttons to run other programs. Anybody know of anything that could help me?05:25
rabeldableI've seen this prob before when trying to install and setup some stuff05:25
b1n0ryif you like, i could probably borrow the wife's digital camera and take a video or picture of what's happening05:25
livindedrabeldable: command not found05:25
rabeldablegreat05:25
MarcNrabeldable: well that is bogus SQL, but you get the idea?05:25
rabeldabledo you have vi and do you know how to use it?05:25
shuvebbut i've noted ur point05:25
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livindedrabeldable: me?05:26
rabeldableMarcN: bogus as in wrong?... the code works.05:26
rabeldableI just can't figure out what its doing05:26
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intelikeyshuveb what are you having markup trubble in ?05:26
codincan I temporarely install software if I use the livecd ?05:26
Xenguyshuveb: ok, it you need clarification though, just ask05:26
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rabeldableI think it may have something to do with limiting the amount of queries or special characters or something05:26
codinI need a serial line terminal: minicom05:26
Xenguys/it/if05:26
thomasamohtATI remote help? anybody have any experience with this?05:26
shuvebXenguy, yeah, and thanks05:27
rabeldableyeah, livended.. do you know how to use vi?05:27
rabeldableyou can  replace everything with vi05:27
MarcNrabeldable: but not what i intended,  select employee.name, jobcode.title from employee, jobcodes where employee.name='Smith' and employee.jobid = jobcode.jobid;  is closer to give a name and title for all people named 'smith'05:27
b1n0rygord_ or thomasamoht any ideas?05:27
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thomasamohtsorry man, i've never seen that before.05:28
rabeldablethats assuming that it has M$ style line breaks and such05:28
[linner] SEJeff:  geez louise... this takes forever!!!05:28
thomasamohtthere is a chance that your cd is messed.05:28
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SEJeff[linner] : what?05:28
whamHey there, I am kind of new to Ubuntu, and I can't find where the Firefox options thing is. I want to clear cookies, cache and disable history. It's in the tools menu in Windows.05:28
adri_hey guys05:28
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codinuse dos2unix to convert ^M to linux eof style05:28
blankI'm installing ubuntu now05:28
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MarcNwham: it would be in the firefox menus05:28
thomasamohtwham its in firefox preferences05:28
rabeldablewham: edit -> preferences05:28
Cindyis ldap can be install in Ubuntu?05:28
guilhermetotem-xine is the first that works ".wma" files, thanks all05:28
blankshould I use ext3 or reiserfs, I've heard better things about reiserfs05:29
b1n0rythomasamoht i dunno, i first loaded it up in a virtual pc and it worked ok (except for x doesn't work real well with vpc) so i booted up the whole system. that's when it had the problem. i did the media validation and compared hashes.05:29
intelikeyeof ?   :)05:29
wham@ Marcn, thomas, rabeldable, thanks!05:29
blankend of file05:29
Xenguyblank: ext3 is more stable AFAICT05:29
MarcNCindy: apt-cache search openldap05:29
blankreally, and reiserfs is just faster05:29
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blankso ext3 'stable' reiserfs 'faster'05:29
intelikeyyeah i know....  but ^M != EOF    ^M = EOL05:29
Xenguyblank: reiserfs is just riskier it seems :-)05:29
Agrajagpersonally, I've had ext3 partitions die on me left and right05:29
blankright? so I choose ext3 right now, kay thanks :D05:30
psusiI'm running reiserfs just fine ;)05:30
Agrajagbut have had zero problems with reiserfs in, oh, 3 or 4 years05:30
rabeldablereiserfs = faster fsck and bootup filesystem repairs05:30
SEJeffAgrajag: Bad hardware? ext3 is known to be more stable than reiser05:30
b1n0ryi've never had a problem with ext305:30
psusireiserfs is also supposedly faster all around05:30
[linner] SEJeff:  this install... for kubuntu...05:30
AgrajagSEJeff: I doubt it, exact same hardware05:30
blankman, comon I need to choose now, should I choose ext3 or reiserfs, just flip a coin05:30
psusiI'm about ot put that theory to the test05:30
rabeldableext305:30
b1n0ryext305:30
thomasamohti havn't ever had a problem with ext305:30
blank:D05:31
MarcNblank: doesn't matter for most people.05:31
psusijust shrunk my ntfs partition some more... going to make an ext2 partition and copy / to it and try booting off that05:31
blankthey're about the same thing right?05:31
intelikeyi'v never yet had any trubble with reiserfs or ext3   but i still use ext2 a lot alos05:31
intelikeyalso05:31
blankI've heard bad things about one of the ext's05:31
CindyMarcN: python-ldap, <--- can i use this as my server ldap?05:31
SEJeffAgrajag: Use bonnie++ to really stress it. I have killed more reiser volumes than ext3 playing with HD burnin05:31
thomasamohtif ubuntu guys thought one worked better, they would make it the default. Ext is the default, so i'd use it.05:31
blankcan you guys give me a comparison, reiserfs to ext305:31
AgrajagSEJeff: I don't have that hardware any more05:31
MarcNCindy: that is just a python library that can talk to an ldap server05:31
rabeldableunless your running some high available cluster and you need to save all of your writes in a transaction log05:31
Agrajagthis was years ago, I quit using ext after the third time05:31
blankthomasamoht: thanks05:31
weitzmanHey folks. I'm pretty new to linux/Ubuntu. I tried to "apt-get install ssh-krb5" but it fails 'cause openssh-client is installed. If I try to uninstall openssh, apt-get wants to remove lots of other stuff that's kind of important05:31
weitzmanAny ideas?05:31
intelikeyblank you'll never notice the differance in them.05:32
Agrajagthen I put reiser on the same partition05:32
blankloool, I know, that's why I'm asking05:32
rabeldableyou can use both if you want05:32
CindyMarcN: oic, now how can i install ldap server to my PC?05:32
MarcNrabeldable: always use a journaled file system if you can.05:32
weitzmanI noticed ssh-krb5 says it provides packages "ssh" while openssh-client provides "ssh-client"05:32
blankwhat do you think I should choose *flips imaginary coin* okay its ext305:32
blankthanks guys *goes back to other pc to select that*05:32
MarcNCindy: apt-get install slapd05:32
intelikeyther ya go  :)05:32
b1n0rywell, i'm going to head out. i got fedora working already, so i'll probably just stick with that. have a good one and thanks for trying to help thomasamoht and gord_05:32
MarcNCindy: probably want to also install ldapscripts, ldap-utils, etc05:33
blankguys, I have 38 gigs for my primary and 1.5 gigs for my swap, that's what it automatically made, is that good?05:33
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rabeldablehow much ram?05:33
MarcNgood night boys-n-girls.  Bedtime in my timezone.05:33
rabeldableram x 2 = swap05:33
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blank512, so I guess it's alright since I heard to make it 2-3 times that size05:33
blankyeah05:33
CindyMarcN: yes indeed, where can i find it?05:33
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blankso that's good right? it's only 2 partitions that it made, I dont need any more right05:33
Xenguyblank: yeh, that's fine, no sweat05:33
blankqtparted lets you resize partitions right?05:33
blankthanks bud :)05:34
blankor what was that program that let you do that05:34
blankgparted05:34
blankor something05:34
blankqeparted05:34
germanHello!!05:34
gord_gparted, yea it does05:34
rabeldablewhat kind of box will it be blank?05:34
MarcNCindy: apt-cache search ldap    give you a list of ldap related packages.  you just need to figure out which ones you may want.05:34
blanksomething like that (sorry for multiple lines)05:34
Xenguy!enter05:34
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!05:34
weitzmanAnyone have any ideas for how I can replace open-ssh with ssh-krb5 without uninstalling ubuntu-base in the process?05:34
blankrabeldable: desktop05:34
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blankbut I'd like to run some server things05:34
intelikeyha ha ha i'm running 98m ram and no swap   :)05:34
blankjust to try it out05:34
blankintelikey: lol05:34
thomasamohti have 1gig of ram, and my swap has never been over 50 mb, so having a 2gig swap seems pointless to me.05:34
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rabeldableif you think your server things will get out of control one day and log lots of stuff to fill up your partition then split the partitions up05:35
intelikeyand i do run kde in that environment05:35
blank...soooo...I'm alright right? primary = 38.8 swap = 1.505:35
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ebrgyhi05:35
thomasamohtbut those of you with less memory should have a good sized swap05:35
blank*presses enter on other pc*05:35
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SEJeffthomasamoht: I tune the kernel so I get virtually 0 swap. set vm.swappiness=10 in /etc/sysctl.conf05:35
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CindyMarcN: thanks once again, i will examine it05:35
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dooglusweitzman: you can't have ssh-krb5 and ubuntu-base installed at the same time05:35
thomasamohti don't want to break things jeff, i'm happy ;)05:36
dooglusweitzman: ubuntu-base depends on openssh-client, which conflicts with ssh-krb505:36
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dooglusweitzman: however, removing ubuntu-base isn't a bad thing to do05:36
SEJeffthomasamoht: echo 10 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness won't break anything05:36
SEJeffthomasamoht: And you can set it back to default by replacing 10 with 6005:36
intelikeyi always remove ubuntu base anyway....05:36
weitzmandooglus, what does ununtu-base do, exactly?05:36
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psusiSEJeff, even with a high swappiness though, the kernel doesn't swap unless ram is rather low... at least for me...05:36
LathropWellsthomasamoht, - google "linux swappiness" - i think you will like how adjustable it can be05:37
thomasamohtmeh swap is good to have just in case anyways05:37
weitzmandooglus, it has an important sounding name, at least ;)05:37
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thomasamohtif i ever do any video encoding again05:37
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P8ntKidHow to i start a .sh file?05:37
SEJeffpsusi: That is correct, but I like it to swap the very least amount possible without making the system unusable when it really needs to. That is why 10 is a good number05:37
rabeldableI like disabling swap it make web servers so much faster, no disk05:37
SEJeffP8ntKid: bash filename.sh05:37
intelikeyP8ntKid . file.sh05:37
psusiSEJeff, but when ram is low, it is good to free some up by swapping out junk that isn't needed05:37
dooglusweitzman: alternatively you could make a dummy packag05:38
rabeldableonce I setup a linux box with no disk...05:38
melvztechieHello, am having problems with my firefox browser, it always ask for mediaconnectivity wizard even i already finished setting it up. how can i disable the wizard?05:38
dooglusweitzman: sorry.  ubuntu-base is just a metapackage.  it keeps things installed.05:38
SEJeffpsusi: Not on a server, it makes everything grind to a halt05:38
thomasamohtwith over 1gig of ram though, its hard to fill.05:38
rabeldableonly ram and a CDROM with a custom linux OS  to boot from05:38
intelikeyif you want a secondary shell use sh/bash if you want to exec, it in the present use .05:38
thomasamohtfully loaded, gnome is just over 200MB for me05:38
P8ntKidSEJeff: Thanks05:38
rabeldablethat box was faster than one with a disk05:38
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thomasamohtharddrives are slow05:39
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thomasamohtonly like 133mb/s05:39
SEJeffintelikey: He was asking how to execute it. If the file doesn't have executable permissions, ./script.sh will give an error from bash05:39
dooglusweitzman: if you "dpkg -L ubuntu-base" you'll see the actual contents of the package - ie. not a lot05:39
psusidangit, where's the option that makes mke2fs decide between ext2/3?05:39
SEJeffintelikey: bash script.sh will always work05:39
CindyMarcN:  everything is broken packages....:(05:39
weitzmandooglus, Thanks for your help. Do you know if there's some way to manually remove a dependency you don't really need?05:40
Agrajagpsusi: -j05:40
psusiok, so just omit that and it will be ext2?05:40
Agrajagyes05:40
intelikeySEJeff i didn't say anything about ./blah   i said . file.sh   thank you.05:40
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weitzmandooglus, As in, remove from the ubuntu-base metadata05:40
dooglusweitzman: if it's a dependancy, you really need it, by definition of the word 'dependancy'05:40
KaoticEvilanyone used alien?05:40
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psusithere we go...05:40
psusinew filesystem made...05:41
dooglusweitzman: you can remove ubuntu-base (and ubuntu-standard) - then it's no longer a dependancy, so you can remove it...05:41
LathropWellskaotic, - yes but only a few times and every time with crossed fingers and held breath05:41
SEJeffintelikey: and . file.sh is incorrect. . file.sh is the command to source a script and load the functions in memory. The exact same as source file.sh05:41
[linner] It keeps installing... and installing... and installing..... like the friggin' energizer bunny....05:41
psusigreat thing about using the kernel mapper instead of conventional hard drive devices is you can repartition on the running system ;)05:41
KaoticEvilLathiat:  did it work?05:41
[linner] my god it must be installing the frickin' world on my laptop!05:41
SEJeff[linner] : Even worse, kde05:41
KaoticEvilLathropWells even... did it work?05:42
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[linner] SEJeff:  whatcha mean?05:42
thomasamohtyeh kde is insanely fat05:42
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LathropWellsKaoticEvil, - yes (knock-on-wood)05:42
thomasamohti <3 xfce :D05:42
[linner] thomasamoht:  really?  shozbot....05:42
necatorGOD THIS IS SO FRUSTERATING!05:42
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german[linner]  why KDE???05:42
necatori install prograams.05:42
necatorcant find any trace of where the hell they go05:42
rabeldableI wouldn't remove anything... just compile source of ssh-krb5, install it in a unique place like /usr/local/ssh-krb5 or something  and set your environment LD_LIBRARY_PATH appropriately when you want to use it05:42
necatorcant figure out the name to make them run in terminal05:42
[linner] german:  cause i couldn't get plain ubuntu on my system without it hanging at every boot05:42
[linner] german:  so i decided to install over it05:43
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KaoticEvilok... well, im only testing this package to see if it will install... i hope is runs...05:43
[linner] german:  with kubuntu05:43
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thomasamohteww kubuntu DIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiRT05:43
bonbonhowdy howdy05:43
[linner] thomasamoht:  err... it's still ubuntu dude05:43
KaoticEvilhey, i use kubuntu :P05:43
germanthats weird05:43
bonbon<--- Bonarges/Bonbon/TNTales05:43
thomasamohtyeh but its kde05:43
intelikeynecator tab completion in the term ?05:43
thomasamohtkde is dirt05:43
[linner] thomasamoht:  there are a lot of people who prefer it... you know?05:43
weitzmandooglus, Thanks man. I've successfully logged into a server using kerberos credentials05:44
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necatoris there not a way to get a list of the programs that i got?05:44
bonbonHiddenWolf, you in here? or Mustard?05:44
thomasamohtyeah i know, its just eyecandy though. almost all kde programs run in gnome05:44
LathropWellslinner - you can find a bunch of "lighter" options http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Desktops05:44
necatorcuss wtf is this i install somethign it has no icon or no way of telling me where it went so i got to guess and try to run it from terminal.05:44
germanI'm  a Gnome guy!!05:44
bonbonI was able to fix my error 1705:44
thomasamohtgnome or xfce if i feel like it05:44
KaoticEvilthomasamoht:  coming from windows, i think KDE is easier for a new linux user to get used to linux with... its very windows'ish05:44
LathropWellsgerman - Gnome is great.05:44
KaoticEvilin terms of LookNFeel05:45
cgcoreaanyone using ubuntu 5.10 in productions servers?05:45
psusihrm... cp doesn't have a --exlcude option?05:45
intelikeynecator if you want a list of all the executables try "ls /*bin /usr/*bin | less "05:45
germanYeah LathropWells05:45
thomasamohtsorta, i am relatively new to linux, i didn't think it was hard to pick up gnome05:45
rabeldableMarcN: I think i figured it out05:45
germanGnome is really amazing!05:45
rabeldablethe l means lowercase05:45
[linner] LathropWells:  oh okay... maybe if i can just get this running on my laptop... we'll see about the alternatives... cause right now i just want the darned thing running!05:45
KaoticEvilthomasamoht:  it all comes down to personal preference :)05:45
[linner] german:  i know... i use it right now on my desktop05:45
SEJeffnecator: dpkg -l in a terminal will show you all of the software installed on your ubuntu machine05:45
thomasamohti used to run suse with kde though i admit it looks really nice05:46
psusihow can I copy all files on a filesystem EXCEPT certain directories?05:46
LathropWellsxfce or gnome can look like Mac, Windows, or the evil haxor box from the movie "war games" - lol05:46
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thomasamohtlol05:46
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rabeldablepsusi: use tar with an exclude list05:46
thomasamohth4x0r box05:46
psusibut I don't want to put the files into an archive, I just want to copy05:46
LathropWellslol - i stile canned spel05:46
thomasamohtrecursive copy with expeptions05:46
thomasamohtcan you do that in terminal05:47
KaoticEvilwth is linthian?05:47
german[linner] , I have both KDE and Gnome in my Ubuntu, I prefer Gnome, but i'm running some KDE prgramas like amarok05:47
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rabeldablequickest way is to use tar and untar when you want... or fiddle with pipes to move the files around... but your on your own with that05:47
psusithomasamoht, how?  cp doesn't seem to have a --exclude option05:47
necatorbut seriously y dont they show how to run the stuff once its installed.05:47
KaoticEvillintian*05:47
intelikeythat may not get them all but it will keep you busy for a while,  and if you want to search in /usr/local/*bin  and /usr/share/*bin   and maybe even /usr/X*   there may be more.... necator05:47
thomasamohti <3 amarok. but you don't need kde to run it05:47
rabeldablei havent messed with ubuntu much so the file manager might work just fine from GNOME05:47
[linner] german:  right on... maybe once this bloated software gets loaded you can help me dump KDE and get GNOME back05:48
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SEJeffpsusi: use a pipe with grep -v. functionally, that would work the same as --exclude05:48
thomasamohtyeah --exclude05:48
thomasamohtthats what i was thinking of05:48
german[linner] , yeah!!05:48
[linner] german:  :) :) :)05:48
psusihrm... maybe I'll just use tar... how did you get tar to write to stdout again?05:48
german[linner] ,  i just didi it a few days ago05:48
rabeldableor you could put a list of files in a file and run a loop against it copying only the files you have in the list05:48
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SEJeffpsusi: tar czvf - directoryname05:49
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[linner] german:  very cool!05:49
[linner] german:  on a laptop?  a new laptop?05:49
wickedpuppynecator, if you get the source and compile ... it has readme ... that was how it was done last time ... you can also guess ... for example , firefox's command to run is likely to be "firefox"05:49
psusidon't need the z since I'll be piping it to a tar x05:49
germanthomasamoht, but amarok runs easier on KDE05:49
german[linner] , sorry in my pc05:49
Cindybrb everyone, il try to figure out how can i install my slapd05:49
[linner] german:  shooot05:50
psusitar cf -l --exclude=/var | tar x /mnt, should that work?05:50
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necatorso what would be a command for something called beneath-asteel-sky05:50
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rabeldablelike this:  for file in`cat file-list`;do cp $file /destination/dir/$file; done05:50
germanbut we'll try [linner]  , don't worry05:50
bonboncould someone tell me the dpkg install command real quick?05:50
necatori mean wtf? that hard to tell me command when its done installing or make an icon? i been searching for 10 minuts05:50
tielliotI am having a problem with GNOME On-screen Keyboard!05:50
wickedpuppynecator, type bene and tab .... you will see something05:50
doogluspsusi: nearly.05:50
thomasamohtamarok runs fine in gnome05:50
thomasamohtits fast, everything works good05:50
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bonbonit's like -i dpkg05:50
bonbonor something05:51
necatorwickedpuppy all i get is beeping05:51
grodiushow do i play .mov files in linux05:51
germanyeah, thomasamoht but i have some troubles to make it work, :P05:51
wickedpuppynecator, the app you installed is neneath-asteel-sky ?05:51
thomasamohttell grodius about w32 libs somebody05:51
thomasamoht:)05:51
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glynhey05:51
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necatorbeneath-a-steel-sky05:51
thomasamohtthats unfortunate german05:51
glynanyone know where I can find java help?05:51
thomasamohtsun microsystems site?05:52
thomasamohtgoogle it05:52
wickedpuppynecator, i never heard of it before ... links to download it ?05:52
thomasamoht:)05:52
gord_if you want beneath a steel sky you might as well just get it from the scummvm site05:52
gord_www.scummvm.org05:52
necatori got it thru synaptic05:52
gord_you need scummvm to run it05:52
necatoralong with like 9 other programs that i got no clue where the hell they are05:52
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thomasamohtwhat is that?05:52
germanyou know guys, in 8 minutes it's going to be MY BIRTHDAY (sorry for the caps)05:52
thomasamohtlol05:52
glyncool german05:53
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glynno channels for java help?05:53
gord_its an emulator, for old adventure games like monkey island n stuff05:53
Agrajagnecator: you need to run scummvm05:53
Agrajagyou already have that installed05:53
thomasamohtahahaha monkey island i used to play that game when i was 405:53
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thomasamohton our old 38605:53
germanmonkey island was a great game05:53
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germanvery funny05:53
thomasamohtand that  loom game05:53
foxgamerHi all.05:53
gord_me too, on my mates amiga. its very good. well worth playing again if you have it05:53
Agrajagthen you need to find the game files for the game itself, and tell scummvm to load it05:53
thomasamohtanybody play loom?05:53
geppyI downloaded a TTF font, installed it into ~/.fonts, and GNOME font viewer and Kfontviewer both display it correctly, but in GIMP and OpenOffice (1.1 and 2-beta), it looks just like the default font.  I'm not sure where to go from here.05:53
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foxgamerIs there a way to upgrade to 64 bit without actually re-installing the whole system?05:54
wickedpuppynecator, scummvm  has a channel in freenode ... go ask them how to run05:54
necatoromg05:54
necatori cant belive its so complicated to get one program to run05:54
doogluspsusi: make a list of stuff to exclude in /tmp/exclude, and then:05:54
doogluspsusi: tar cXf /tmp/exclude - . | (cd ~/tmp/to; tar xf -)05:54
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Agrajagnecator: it's not one program05:54
thomasamohtfoxgamer: no there isn't.05:54
thomasamohtlol05:54
AgrajagYou installed a scummvm image and sucmmvm05:54
german[linner] , how's the installation going???05:54
necatorso far i been loving everything about this linux05:54
psusiroot@ubuntu:/# tar cf - -l --exclude=/var --exclude=/home/phreak/music/ --exclude=/home/phreak/movies/ / | tar x05:54
tomajdoes anyone know of a color picker that doesnt involve starting up gimp?05:54
bunglepfffft to abstenace b4 marriage05:55
thomasamohti nuked my windows partition cause gnome is that sexah05:55
necatorbut like 6 programs ive gotten thru synaptic i cant find them anywhere05:55
psusiI think that should work if I run it from /mnt05:55
psusithat should copy everything to /mnt right?  if I run it from there?05:55
wickedpuppynecator, what are those programs ? stop complaining .. tell us what those programs are05:55
germanhahhaa thomasamoht05:55
thomasamohtenable universe repository u'll find lots of goodies05:55
foxgamerthomasamoht: No way at all? That's stoopid.05:55
locomortoDoes anyone have any reccomendations for linux software that makes a photo slideshow?05:55
tomajwindows is the only way to game with good performance05:55
tomajlocomorto try openoffice05:55
locomortotomaj: thats FUD05:55
doogluspsusi: you want to exclude /proc and /sys and /dev too05:55
tomajlocomorot: fud?05:56
wickedpuppy!fud05:56
ubotufud is probably [FUD]  Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. A marketing technique employed by those who do not trust in the merits of their own product. Also Fair Use Day.05:56
tomajlocomorto: fud?05:56
Agrajagfear uncertainty and doubt05:56
locomortotomaj: Fear Uncertainty Doubt05:56
thomasamohttomaj i have an xbox.05:56
psusidooglus, they are on different filesystems... I used the -l option to tar to tell it to only tar the one filesystem05:56
doogluspsusi: fine05:56
locomortotomaj: I was looking for something with more control05:56
doogluspsusi: my mistake05:56
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tomajlocomorto: flash?05:56
intelikeydooglus yeah probably but i backup /dev    ....05:56
bonbonquestion05:56
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bonbonubotu tar05:57
ubotubonbon: Are you smoking crack?05:57
tomajlol05:57
psusiok... I think it's working05:57
bonbonok, lol05:57
tomaji heart ubotu05:57
bonbonubotu install tar05:57
ubotubonbon: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about05:57
thomasamohttomaj i still use windows on my sisters comp, for the very few things that i can't do in linux.05:57
psusitar's moving everything in / to /mnt except for some big files and /var05:57
locomortotomaj: and what wpuld I use for the flash file?05:57
bonbonubotu tar install05:57
ubotuI haven't a clue, bonbon05:57
bonbondamn05:57
wickedpuppybonbon, ask us ... stop playing with the bot pls05:57
Agrajagbonbon: he only responds to triggers05:57
locomortoto make it that is05:57
ReleaseXi just installed networkmanager, but it doesn't seem to be working, there's no APs being found05:57
bonbonah, ok05:57
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tomajlocomorto: not sure about that, windows maybe lol05:57
bonbonI just wanted to find some links for how to install automatix05:57
locomorto:'(05:57
bonboninstead of bothering people05:57
tomajthomasamoht: i like pc gaming so i use windows for it cedega ams the suck05:58
psusihehe... I love being able to ctrl-z bg %1 then watch df05:58
theturtlanyone know of an app for synching ipod music, thats compatible with itunes db?05:58
doogluspsusi: don't you need to "cd" in there somewhere?05:58
KaoticEvildoes (k)ubuntu have SMP support?05:58
wickedpuppybonbon, how to install automatix ? install what ?05:58
blank tomaj: you use pc gaming for what05:58
psusidooglus, I just ran the command from /mnt05:58
germanhpe everybody here play STARCRAFT05:58
bonbonautomatix is like synaptic05:58
thomasamohti havn't been able to install wine or cedega because i'm on a x64bit installation05:58
blanktomaj: or you use what for pc gaming?05:58
doogluspsusi: ok, good.05:58
wickedpuppybonbon, then use synaptic05:58
thomasamohtwine won't run in x64 apparently05:58
bonbonah, good idea05:58
[linner] houston.... the kubuntu has ALMOST landed.....05:59
blankwickedpuppy: hey! :D05:59
doogluspsusi: but...  "tar x" will extract to absolute pathnames?  or not.05:59
thomasamohti used to play starcraft05:59
thomasamohtbut then i realized how gay it was.05:59
wickedpuppyheya blank :P05:59
thomasamoht:l05:59
psusiit seems not05:59
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tomajblank i used windows to play pc games because i like to play games on my pc05:59
tomajdoes anyone know of a color picker that doesnt involve starting up gimp?05:59
blanklol me too05:59
doogluspsusi: "tar: Removing leading `/' from member names" - ok05:59
germanthomasamoht, hahhaa,05:59
psusidooglus, aye05:59
[linner] it got all the way to the login screen then froze :(05:59
psusi1.5 gigs copied so far05:59
LathropWellsthomasamoht, - i was reading something about running wine in a chrooted environment.05:59
[linner] after i entered my login and pass05:59
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tomajthomasamoht play neverwinter nights05:59
bonboni don't seem to have synaptic on my comp :/05:59
tomajthomasamoht it ams the leet05:59
tomajlol bonbon05:59
wickedpuppybonbon, are you using ubuntu ?06:00
thomasamohtlathropwells i tried that didn't work at all.06:00
[linner] bonbon of course you do06:00
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intelikeybonbon me either.06:00
tomajsystem > administrator > synaptic06:00
german[linner] , ewhat login are u using?? Gnome or KDE06:00
tomajbonbon system > administrator > synaptic06:00
dooglusanyone know a website that will tell me the nearest place I can buy cigarettes at 6am?06:00
[linner] KDE06:00
wickedpuppydooglus, ebay06:00
thomasamohtit wouldn't compile at all even with the chroot06:00
bonboni found it, it was hiding :006:00
bonboni just used the terminal06:00
tomajdooglus: iwanttodieyoung.com06:00
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thomasamoht7/11 ?06:00
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dooglustomaj: it's too late for that!06:00
bonbontomaj, thanx06:00
smerchhi, is motif included in the ubuntu cd? thanks!06:00
LathropWellsthomasamoht, - If you are new to linux subscribe to cedega for a bit. - it is easier to use and you can always go back to regular wine06:00
[linner] german:  then it loads the desktop, the panel, etc...06:00
[linner] german:  and then freezes06:01
intelikeydooglus google.com06:01
psusi2 gigs copied06:01
tomajdooglus: rushmydeath.com06:01
Shadowpillarwhy is the upgrade process trying to remove totem?06:01
thomasamohti'll give cedega a try..06:01
tomajdooglus do you have to be dificult lol06:01
Shadowpillarquestion06:01
tkuphow does one submit a program for inclusion in the ubuntu distro?06:01
thomasamohti'm not that new06:01
Shadowpillarwhat kernel does breezy use?06:01
tomajthomasamoht it sucks06:01
[linner] german:  now it says KDE is up and running... but it's frozen06:01
wickedpuppytkup, #ubuntu-devel06:01
dooglustomaj: both domains are free...06:01
tomaj2.6.12 shadowpillar06:01
tkupwickedpuppy, thanks06:01
psusiShadowpillar, 2.6.1206:01
[linner] german:  this sucks major butt06:01
thomasamohti used to run suse a while ago06:01
tomajlol dooglus you should start a business06:01
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malvwhere can I find out how to get my wireless chipset working with ubuntu06:02
malvits a usb rt250006:02
german[linner] , what ubuntu 're u running 5.04??06:02
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dooglustomaj: I'm not sure it would be legal06:02
tomajdoglus: this is how great ideas start you know, bunch of geeks on irc making jokes06:02
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thomasamohtooooooooo usb wireless06:02
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thomasamohttoughie06:02
_DezEverytime i go to shutdown06:02
_Dezit logout of my user06:02
_Dezthen goes to root06:02
[linner] german:  i don't know... i think so.... it's an older disc for sure06:02
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tomajdooglus you're only providing information about shops that sell ciggies at certain hours06:02
tomajdooglus its only information06:02
thomasamohtyo can anybody explain to me why everytime i boot up, i need to reconfigure my network?06:02
thomasamohtlol06:02
[linner] german:  i just downloaded breezy but the thing is i don't know how to get the original ubuntu and now kubuntu off my system06:03
dooglustomaj: oh, i see.  I was thinking I would be providing a more general "early death" service06:03
Agrajagcan't you just upgrade from the CD?06:03
Shadowpillarwhat kernel does breezy use?06:03
psusi[linner] , just install breezy over them06:03
thomasamohtlinner just partition the disks you installed them on06:03
psusiShadowline, two people answered you already... 2.6.1206:03
tomajdooglus: well that can be for members only you could start an assasination site06:03
dooglustomaj: assisting the suicidal.  problem is, the only word-of-mouth advertising you get is from customers who you failed06:03
intelikeyinit 6  is  finishing without halt _Dez    but i have no clue why.06:03
[linner] thomasamoht:  I did... but i have multiple choices at the GRUB loader06:03
tomajdooglus then also get assasinatemyself.com and link to it too06:03
[linner] thomasamoht:  it doesn't look like it deleted the previous version06:03
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_Dezintelikey mine uses init 206:04
german[linner] , thomasamoht is right, then format you disk06:04
tomajdooglus: hahahahahaha you could force them to put you in their will06:04
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tomajand then tip the media of your own services06:04
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Shadowpillarpsusi: okay06:04
Shadowpillarpsusi: and it's shadowpillar06:04
opnsrcsfthey all06:04
psusiahh goody, tar copied 4.8 gigs for me06:04
thomasamohtlinner, unless you have a partition on the disk you want to keep, completely nuke the disk, and it will write over grub06:04
intelikeynot when you shut down _Dez06:04
[linner] german:  isn't that what it does automatically after it partitioins?06:04
SPCcrowwhat is a good program for watching Divx videos on ubuntu?06:04
[linner] partitions06:04
opnsrcsftwow, big channel06:04
thomasamohtSPCcrow get xine06:04
[linner] thomasamoht:  I do... i have windows on the other side that I use for work06:04
thomasamohtxine is the shit.06:04
tomajdooglus: i can tell bob2 isnt here because he would have kicked us long ago for this convo06:04
[linner] thomasamoht:  so that has to stay06:04
Shadowpillarpsusi: any reason why ubuntu keeps avoiding downloading it from cd?06:04
psusiit looks like it ignored my --exclude though06:04
psusiannoying...06:04
_Dezonly cmd that works correctly is sudo reboot06:05
thomasamohtumm you could edit the grub config.06:05
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tomajdooglus: you could tip the media of your services then offer them free service as a thank you06:05
jrsimsis there a way to make Gnome remember window positions?06:05
dooglustomaj: not only bob2; any op I should think.06:05
blankyay I'm done installing everyone! I'm updating right now! :D06:05
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[linner] thomasamoht:  i don't know how to do that... let me burn the new breezy iso and see if you can walk me through it06:05
WBMJIneed some help06:05
[linner] blank:  consider yourself lucky my friend06:05
tomajdooglus: good point but ive only felt the wrath of bob206:05
LathropWellsxine, ogle,mplayer, xmms, and my favorite basic player VLC   videolan06:05
blank:) :) :)06:05
german[linner] , if you have a windows partition leave it, but format the partition fotr breezy06:05
intelikey_Dez did you try 'sudo /etc/init.d/halt ' ?06:05
tomajspeaking of which, does anyone know of a good color picking program that isnt gimp?06:06
[linner] german:  how do i do that?06:06
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thomasamohti dunno linner i usually just nuke all my partitions cause all my music/vids/files are backed up onto another computer06:06
blankI have a whole new HD now! I can install like...all these things! :D :D :D06:06
wickedpuppy[linner] , you didn't install the linux on ya computer ... did you ?06:06
dooglustomaj: for picking colours off the screen like an eyedropper tool?06:06
psusiwell, off I go to boot off the new ext2 partition and see how fast it is compared to resiserfs06:06
[linner] wickedpuppy:  yeah i did...06:06
tomajdooglus no just picking a color from the range and it giving me the hex of it for webdesigning06:06
[linner] wickedpuppy:  on a second partition06:06
blankhey isn't there a window manager/theme that is run by OpenGL?06:06
thomasamohtext3 you mean?06:06
_Dezstill does to root shell intelikey06:06
[linner] thomasamoht:  yes06:06
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wickedpuppy[linner] , you did ? then the process is still the same ...06:06
thomasamohtdon't install the root onto an ext2.06:06
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tomajblank yes there is let me get the link06:07
german[linner] , you sould need a swap partition too (ask abput that, i have one, but don know in a laptop)06:07
[linner] wickedpuppy:  what do you mean?06:07
intelikeythomasamoht and why not?06:07
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[linner] german:  i had a swap partition06:07
tomajwell blank it uses the gpu only pretty much06:07
[linner] german:  actually still do06:07
thomasamohtbecause its not journalled06:07
[linner] thomasamoht:  huh?06:07
tomajblank http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:M4e-wHfL0_8J:www.enlightenment.org/+enlightenment&hl=en06:08
thomasamohtif you shut it off wrong/power outage, there is no recovery method06:08
wickedpuppy[linner] , back up everything ... and install brezzy over the old linux .. and put back ya data .. simple06:08
tomajblank enlightenment.org doesnt seem to work for me06:08
tomajblank it's still in early stages though06:08
thechitowncubsmy capture card seems to be supported by tvtime but I can't tell if its working properly, what can I look at to see log messages from it?06:08
thechitowncubsits an SAA7134 decoder06:08
[linner] wickedpuppy:  back up everything?  on windows???  that partition shouldn't be touched so there should be any back up necessary06:08
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blanktomaj: oh okay thanks :)06:08
[linner] wickedpuppy:  it's only the linux part that i've got a problem with... AGAIN!06:08
intelikeyno but you probably don't want to recover the 49% of that file you were saving anyway.....06:08
wickedpuppy[linner] , then install breezy over the second partition ...06:09
SPCcrowdoes gmplayer do divx?06:09
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germanhaha06:09
LathropWellsthechitown - hi, - having a struggle with a saa7133 card here.06:09
thomasamohtall mplayer does divx06:09
SPCcrowcool06:09
thomasamohtbut mplayer is messy06:09
thomasamohtxine is good trust me06:09
thomasamohtk or don't listen to me..06:09
thomasamoht:l06:09
rabeldableanyone know of a media player that will search through the internet for people streaming music?06:09
dooglustomaj: what about "kcoloredit - a color palette editor and color picker for KDE" ?06:09
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thomasamohtsearch the internet...06:10
tomajthanx dooglus i'll try it06:10
bonbonrabeldable,  it's called live365.com06:10
bonboninternet radio dude :)06:10
El-Presidentehello, I have setup postfix with courier imap and pop3 however when I use an email client to send an email I get any email back saying it could not be delivered, however if I telnet to the smtp server on my server I can send mail.. any ideas?06:10
[linner] if this keeps up, i'm going to have to try suse06:10
german[linner] , there is an option to format the partition, then it should work (I installed my ubuntu 4 times)06:10
dooglusthomasamoht: messy?  what do you mean?06:10
intelikeyyes i like kcoloredit.06:10
thomasamohtrabelable try shoutcast. its good.06:10
rabeldablelinner... whats wrong?06:10
[linner] german:  i thought i chose that the lst time06:10
thechitowncubsLathropWells, what have you found out?06:10
thomasamohtmplayer is dirty man.06:10
rabeldableshoutcast runs on linux?06:10
[linner] rabeldable:  more like what ISN'T wrong06:10
rabeldablehehe06:10
bonboni've started using itunes in windows for subscribing to podcasts06:10
thomasamohtshoutcast runs in lots of music programs06:10
rabeldableoh I cc06:11
[linner] rabeldable:  kubuntu freezes everytime i login06:11
thomasamohtbonbon download iPodder06:11
bonbonoooh06:11
thomasamohtu'll like that.06:11
bonbonkk06:11
blankhttp://tyr_7be.tripod.com/ second picture, is that beagle running on ubuntu?06:11
rabeldablewhat kind of system is it linner?06:11
bonbonI am quite enamoured with itunes06:11
[linner] rabeldable:  i couldn't get ubuntu base to even get to a login point... so i tried to install kubuntu06:11
thomasamohtitunes is gay.06:11
bonbonis that one i can apt-get?06:11
thomasamohtamarok will manage ur ipod06:11
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bonbonwell, xmms doesn't work well06:11
thomasamohtbonbon. use amarok.06:12
skalpelcan someone tell me the keyboard shortcut to change my screen resolution?06:12
thomasamoht:06:12
thomasamoht:)06:12
bonbonand I don't have an IPOD i have MuVo from Creative06:12
LathropWellsthechitowncubs, - the module loads and i can configure different switches for it to load with but nothing plays06:12
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thomasamohtOOOOOOOOOOOOOo bonbon06:12
[linner] rabeldable:  READY?  It's a Compaq v2000z with an AMD Turion 64, 2 GB Ram with a Broadcom WLAN and ATI 200M video card06:12
thomasamohti have a creative zen micro06:12
thomasamoht:)06:12
thomasamohtdownload gnomad206:12
bonbonkewl, I'm too poor atm06:12
opnsrcsfthow do I change the default font size for Ubuntu?06:12
opnsrcsftI just installed it06:12
thomasamohtor the other one06:12
intelikeysomebody said beep music player06:12
bonbonwould like to try a zen micro06:12
[linner] rabeldable:  all the no-no's ... that one shouldn't have when trying to load linux06:12
opnsrcsftand it's way too small06:12
thomasamohtbon bon they are nice.06:12
thechitowncubsLathropWells, what is the module, is it built in ubuntu?06:13
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rabeldablewhat kind of monitor?06:13
bonbonI wish my video card supported resolutions highter than 102406:13
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LathropWellsthechitowncubs, - i got the module from bytesex.com site06:13
thomasamohtlol!06:13
[linner] rabeldable:  it's a laptop... so it's a flat panel06:13
rabeldablei just got ubuntu to run on a new toshiba M65-S9065 laptop...06:13
thechitowncubsLathropWells, alright06:13
opnsrcsft????06:13
opnsrcsft17 inch06:13
LathropWellsbinary06:13
Myrttibonbon: your video card or your screen?06:13
opnsrcsftbut everything is so small06:13
opnsrcsftHow do i change it?06:13
thomasamohtare you running gnome?06:14
thomasamohtgo to preferences06:14
RedRoseif i want to delete a bunch of files from my system, would it be rm -rf /<here>*06:14
bonbonMyrtti,  I can't get is to run in a larger size06:14
RedRose?06:14
thomasamohtthen screen resolution06:14
bonbonthe slider won't go past 102406:14
MyrttiRedRose: NO!06:14
opnsrcsftuhm....06:14
bonbonit is a laptop though, 15-inch screen06:14
skalpeldoes anyone know the refresh rates for an ic power 19" flat screen monitor? i cannot find it anywhere on the net06:14
rabeldablelinner:  try this link I wrote some documentation for what I had to do to get my laptop to work with Xorg.06:14
RedRoseMyrtti:Lol, i ment here as in file06:14
rabeldablehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=476609&postcount=11206:14
RedRosebut what do you suggest?06:14
thomasamohti'm runnint at 1280x102406:14
opnsrcsftactually I found font06:14
opnsrcsftthanks06:14
opnsrcsftIt's under system06:14
opnsrcsftthanks06:14
Myrttibe careful what ever you do06:14
blankcan beagle run on ubuntu?06:14
thomasamohto06:14
thomasamohtno prob06:14
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[linner] rabeldable:  i'll try anything at this point... let me go take a look06:14
thomasamohtbeagle..06:14
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Myrttibrb06:15
RedRoseMyrtti:Ok, I'll Admit it, I did that and it crashed, caught it, but not before it ate the init.d06:15
opnsrcsftThere we go06:15
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opnsrcsftNow I need to figure how to configure Xchat06:15
bonbondoes anyone know a site that can tell me how to properly mount partitions?06:15
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thomasamohtxchat doesn't take any configureing man06:15
thomasamoht:l06:15
bonbonlike I made a big partition06:15
MyrttiRedRose: now what exactly are you trying to delete06:15
bonbonto share media files between windows and linux06:16
skalpelcan someone tell me where 'vertrefresh' and horizsync' go in my xorg.conf file?06:16
thomasamohtbonbon06:16
bonbonand I don't remember how to mount06:16
thomasamohtjoin #mount06:16
LathropWellsthechitowncubs - if you have any inspiration let me know. i am thinking an external tuner would have better reception and hauppage seems to be best supported.06:16
bonbongracias06:16
RedRoselibssh06:16
germanskalpel, let me take a look06:16
thechitowncubsLathropWells, alright.06:16
thomasamohtbonbon #mount06:16
Myrttiwhy?06:16
thomasamohtnow06:16
opnsrcsft:(06:16
opnsrcsftSo I can't increase font size on Xchat?06:16
opnsrcsftit has to stay small?06:16
tomajdooglus that was exactly what i was looking for thanx heaps06:16
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[linner] rabeldable:  very impressive06:16
RedRosecause there's a conflict in hydra, so i want to purge all the files, then reinstall it06:16
Myrttidon't do it that way06:16
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rabeldablei took me all night with trying many different configs to get it to work06:17
[linner] rabeldable:  so... i'll try it again... i'll write over everything with breezy... have to burn the ISO... will you be on for a while?06:17
RedRosehow would i delete files that are scattered all around like that?06:17
rabeldablebut i'm using it now and it works great06:17
intelikeyskalpel if you use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '  it will put them in the correct place06:17
[linner] rabeldable:  unfortunately, i don't have that luxury tonight... i have to work in the morning :(06:17
MyrttiI need more coffee...06:17
rabeldableprobably not06:17
[linner] rabeldable:  what wlan do you have?06:17
skalpelintelikey: thank you06:17
malvwell, had to hack one line in the source code, but I got the usb wireless driver to compile06:17
RedRoseMyrtti:LOL06:17
rabeldableemail me: rabeldable@gmail.com06:17
malvthis is a great day for mankind06:17
intelikeyskalpel np06:17
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RedRoseMyrtti:Do You know any way?06:17
tomajrabeldable: are you that desperate to meet people?06:18
[linner] rabeldable:  you're a dear... thank you so much!06:18
MyrttiRedRose: yup, but that might result in dependency problems06:18
[linner] tomaj:  easy... he's helping me06:18
tomajlinner: humor06:18
[linner] tomaj:  is that what that was??? *grin*06:18
opnsrcsftuhm... no fonts on X-chat06:18
blankanyone know any good 'milky white' themes for gnome?\06:18
rabeldableoh yeah i'm a regular irc whore06:18
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RedRoseok, what if it's not a file like that, but let's say a log file06:18
[linner] rabeldable:  heheheeh...06:18
skalpelhow much is 256mb in kb?06:18
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RedRosejust in general how would i delete a bunch of files like that?06:19
[linner] by the way rabeldable... i called you dear because I'm a girl :)  so don't take offense :)06:19
rabeldablei don't know what type of wlan card I have, I think its intel but i have to check and i'm in the middle of some other things06:19
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blankdoes beagle the search thing run on ubuntu, I mean, can it06:19
Myrttiwell with logfiles you wouldn't do it with apt-get remove --purge <program>06:19
RedRosei know...06:19
[linner] rabeldable:  that's ok... mine is a big no-no linux card... broadcom :(06:19
RedRosei know about apt-get --purge...06:19
rabeldableno problem...06:19
RedRosebut i am talking about if there wasn't apt06:19
cnolesI can't get o the net from ubuntu06:19
shadowlandsgreetings world, can anyone anwser a sound related question on ubuntu please?06:19
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rabeldableit might work linux has came a long way its really good06:20
cnolesany ideas06:20
Myrttitry to be more precise with the path to the files that you are trying to delete06:20
Myrttiwith rm -rf06:20
dooglustomaj: did you see the colour selector in 'inkscape'?  that's quite nice too06:20
germanskalpel, Section "Monitor"06:20
germanIdentifier"SyncMaster"06:20
germanOption"DPMS"06:20
germanVertRefresh 50-16006:20
germanHorizSync 30-7006:20
germanEndSection06:20
RedRoseyeah, i'vve learned that06:20
garychello folks06:20
Myrttithank you06:20
_Dezim running server shell how do i get it to load startx06:20
_Dezwhen it boots06:20
Myrttitry pastebin next time06:20
RedRosei'm reinstalling my system now06:20
garycI am configuring my router06:20
opnsrcsftHow do I make Ubuntu support a higher refresh rate06:20
concept10anyone experience 100% CPU spikes when browsing flash sites in firefox?06:20
opnsrcsftit only supports 6006:20
Myrttiubotu, tell opnsrcsft about xorg06:20
gord_100% cpu spiking isn't anything to be worried about06:21
tomajdooglus: i dont use inkscape on linux06:21
dooglustomaj: ok06:21
Myrtti<3 inkscape06:21
germansorry i can't help you [linner] 06:21
opnsrcsftwhere do I get Xorg?06:21
cnolescan I get some networking help? I am unable to ping my router (or do much of any thing else  :{(}06:21
tomajyeah inkscape is leet i just use in on windows because i have photoshop in windows06:22
shadowlandshey cnoles, whats the ip#06:22
thechitowncubsLathropWells, HOLY SHIT06:22
tomajopnsrcsft its on your computer already if you use ubuntu06:22
cnolesip of?06:22
dooglusopnsrcsft: use 'apt-get' or 'synaptic' to get 'xserver-xorg'06:22
cnolesthe router06:22
garycgerman, I am configuring my router to do ftp port 20 - can you help06:22
cnoles192.168.1.106:22
LathropWellscnoles - what type of connection? what type of connection hardware?06:22
thechitowncubsLathropWells, it f'ing works, i got my camera plugged in through composite06:22
opnsrcsftthanks06:22
shadowlandswhat you want pinged06:22
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intelikeyhmmm ub has my cdrom drive fubar'd ..... it wont eject and it wont mount...06:22
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cnolesumm06:23
LathropWellsthechitowncubs - Nice!06:23
germangaryc, I'm sorry I can't but someone here must know06:23
cnoles3c0m nic ...network everywhere router (linksys)06:23
rabeldablewhat kind of router garyc?06:23
shadowlandscnoles, you realise thet the 192 series is on your local network and not the www06:23
cnolesyes06:23
[linner] german:  no dear... it06:23
[linner] german:  it's fine... really... i've been having these problems since i was first introduced to Ubuntu06:24
garycrabeldable, Linksys06:24
DR_K13lol inst06:24
shadowlandshow many machines do you have on your lan?06:24
LathropWellsthechitowncubs - did you find a helpful HowTo"?06:24
cnolesbut I cannot even ping my network that is the problem. I am on our other computer right now06:24
[linner] german:  i was hoping that Breezy would fix it.... it hasn't I don't think.  We'll see... I'm burning a new ISO.  Thanks though!06:24
rabeldableare you trying to ftp to your router? or ftp through your router to some other system?06:24
german[linner] , keep trying06:24
cnoles206:25
[linner] german:  oh i will... i believe in the product... and I believe even more in the community!!! :)06:25
cnoles2machines on my lan if that was to me06:25
ale8onehey, has anyone had problems with installing x86-64 dvd iso on dual boot? grub takes forever to boot and ubuntu never loads?06:25
[linner] german:  my goal is to get rid of windoze all together an run linux.... ubuntu specifically06:25
nalioth[linner] : howdy06:25
thechitowncubsLathropWells, it worked out of the FRICKING BOX06:25
intelikeywhat kind of crap is this? E: Package bc has no installation candidate06:25
thechitowncubsthis is sooooooooooooooo amazing06:25
german[linner] , yeah, is awesome, thats my goal to!!06:25
blankanyone know of a program that lets you convert AVI files to DVD format so you can watch them on a dvd player?06:25
LathropWellsthechitowncubs - That is Outstanding! :)06:26
crimsunintelikey: it's in main06:26
[linner] nalioth:  hello honey! :)06:26
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[linner] german:  i'm glad to hear it :)06:26
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[linner] nalioth:  what's up dude? :)06:26
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german[linner] , but i'm new to linux (used to run mandrake) so it will be a long journey06:26
german[linner] , hahahah06:27
garycrabeldable, on the port forward page there are two boxes  "blank to blank" like it is a range.  I thought it was just port 2006:27
intelikeyah yeah and it's got my cd drive fubar'd so no main.....  mehh06:27
[linner] german:  I'm not used to anything linux... so we're in the journey together!06:27
LathropWellscrimsun AND nalioth a lot of computer setup problems are going to be solved.06:27
naliothLathropWells: whose computer?06:27
LathropWellsHi guys!06:27
german[linner] , excellent!!06:27
[linner] german:  :)06:27
rabeldableftp is port 2106:27
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german[linner] , cos i don'k know a lot of people here that ru Ubuntu...06:28
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skalpel_can someone tell me what section 'vertrefresh' and 'horozsync' go under in my xorg.conf file?06:28
[linner] german:  where's "here"?06:28
LathropWellsCan i nalioth "Audit" your professorial level class?06:28
german[linner] ,  here is Lima-Per!!06:28
LathropWells;)06:28
rabeldabledid you try the monitor section? skalpel_06:28
intelikeyah i finnally got atapi reset...06:28
[linner] german:  this is the best user group in the world... not exaggerating either... everyone here helps each other06:28
garyccnoles, hey I just had to power my router and cable modem down then power up the modem wait then power up the router06:28
[linner] german:  oh wow!!!  I'm in the USA...06:29
crimsunskalpel_: Section "Monitor", as rabeldable said06:29
german[linner] , hope you know where Lima - Peru is06:29
german[linner] , hahhaa06:29
[linner] german:  Of course!  Though I don't do well with most geography... I do know where Lima is.06:29
german[linner] , where in Usa?06:29
naliothLathropWells: i'm not following you, perhaps you could explain to me in #kubuntu-offtopic06:29
garyccnoles, also I had to push the reset button on the router06:29
cnoleshmmm.. I am on the windows machinre here and I can see my puter on the dhcp client table06:29
[linner] german:  California....06:29
cnolesI did reset the router06:30
LathropWellsnalioth - er - that was a weak try at humor - nvm - Glad you are here.06:30
german[linner] , it must be beatifull, have you evere traveled yto south america??06:30
intelikeyhow much differance in mawk and gawk ?06:30
[linner] german:  why don't you join #ubuntu-offtopic... we'll talk about it there... ok?06:31
[linner] german:  they like to stay on topic here06:31
german[linner] , ok06:31
[linner] :)06:31
rabeldablethanks linner06:31
crimsunintelikey: mawk tends to be smaller & faster06:31
[linner] rabeldable:  of course :)06:31
intelikeycrimsun at the expence of some functionality ?06:32
crimsunintelikey: yes, due to compile-time configuration06:32
cnolesbut trying to ping the ubunto box from this machine times out06:32
thechito