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bob2shinu: "man resolv.conf" says it cares about the first three12:00
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bob2marlun: hah, cool12:00
bob2jeanluc: please stop pasting that12:00
bob2jeanluc: or anything at all, in here12:00
shinuLjL: thanks ut i think its alright :P i wont really need that12:00
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jeanlucsorry12:00
shinubob2: i see12:00
_Dezdoes Gaim run on ubuntu?12:00
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shogo.irc-hispano.org12:00
phasegenCan anyone tell me where to find audacity for breezy?  Synaptic says it isn't out there...12:01
topyliagtnz: sudo update-alternatives www-browser and sudo update-alternatives x-www-browser12:01
LjL_dez: of course it does12:01
icewt_Dez: ubuntu ships with gaim12:01
NotLarryok, the power is off to the radio on my wi-fi card, anyone know how to turn it on?12:01
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zeenixhey guys12:01
solidgroovephasegen audacity.sf.net12:01
agtnztopyli: danke12:01
shinubob2: i just wondered its strange that it doesnt have a nameserver command... thats all :D and also i couldnt get it from the repos12:01
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bob2phasegen: eh?12:01
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bob2nisqpaul: please turn that off12:01
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thechitowncubsphasegen, its there, in universe12:01
Ophiocusphasegen,  make sure you have the correct repositories12:01
phasegensolidgroove: Thank You!12:01
bob2phasegen: it's in universe12:01
bob2phasegen: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto, wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:02
mmiikkee12i'm considering switching to ubuntu from debian, but first, a few questions. does it let you use new software or force you on 2.6.8 kernels like debian?12:02
phasegenI have universe and multiverse enabled.12:02
agtnz_Dez: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80423&highlight=initng for speeding up boot12:02
solidgroovemmiikkee12, its newest software12:02
mmiikkee12good12:02
topyliagtnz: sorry, it's update-altenatives config x-www-browser. i forgot the "config" part. might even be "configure"12:02
LjLsolidgroove: it's "newest" software?12:02
bob2mmiikkee12: uh, Debian doesn't "force" you on 2.6.8 kernels12:02
bob2mmiikkee12: please don't spread such silly fud12:03
mmiikkee12sarge does...12:03
zeenixthe netwok-admin doesn't seem to provide an option like 'activate on boot' for individual network interfaces12:03
mmiikkee12anyway12:03
trappistno it doesn't12:03
mmiikkee12can i install it from debian without burning a cd?12:03
solidgrooveLjL, there is a gnome newer than 2.12.2?12:03
nisqpaulbob2: help me here turn what off?12:03
bob2mmiikkee12: not simply12:03
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LjLsolidgroove: i don't think gnome is the only software around is it?12:03
biatchea screen question... for those who are familiar.. when do you use -D -m .. and when do you use -d -m? I can't differentiate between the two...-D = doesnt fork a new process? wtf -_-;;12:03
bob2nisqpaul: that irritating /away scrip you're using12:03
KnowerrorsW: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>12:03
KnowerrorsW: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>12:03
bob2mmiikkee12: debian sid is in general more up to date than ubuntu's development branch12:03
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bob2Knowerrors: point apt at archive.ubuntu.com instead12:04
topylimmiikkee12: it's 2.6.12 on breezy. when the next one comes out in six months, we will have whatever is new at that time12:04
KnowerrorsAnybody else getting this? "W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"12:04
mmiikkee122.6.12 is ok12:04
nisqpaulBob2:  I am not away?12:04
topylimmiikkee12: six months stable releases, no changes in that time12:04
bob2nisqpaul: I don't know or care, but your IRC client should not be announcing it to the channel12:04
agtnz_Dez: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76543&highlight=ntpdate, as well12:04
DShepherdhow do I install install a gdm theme?12:04
SEJefftopyli: Except for security updates12:04
mmiikkee12can i upgrade to newer stuff without a bunch of hassle between releases?12:04
topyliSEJeff: yes, of course12:04
trappistbiatche: the difference is described pretty clearly in the screen man page12:04
agtnzDShepherd: gdmsetup12:04
SeveasKnowerrors, don't use us.archive.ubuntu.com12:04
nisqpaulbob2:  How do I turn off the anouncement...   sorry looking for any advice you can give12:05
agtnzDShepherd: Install new theme and point to the archive12:05
biatchetrappist: i've asked a few people... i don't understand it.. ok, so when do you use oine, when do u use the other12:05
bob2mmiikkee12: like Debian, yes12:05
DShepherdagtnz: thanks12:05
bob2nisqpaul: depends on your irc client12:05
KnowerrorsSeveas: so just remove the "us" ?12:05
topylimmiikkee12: there are backports, but you must really be hungry for the bleeding edge if you can't take six months :)12:05
n0odl3how do i play midi/mid?12:05
nisqpaulbob2 X-chat12:05
SeveasKnowerrors, yeah12:05
mmiikkee12debian says i alreadt have the latest kernel when i only have 2.6.8...12:06
mmiikkee12anyway12:06
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topylimmiikkee12: debian too lets you run any kernel you like...12:06
bob2mmiikkee12: because you're using Debian stable12:06
Knowerrorsthx, sorry for the multiple pastes, didn't show up on my end right away12:06
Madpilotmmiikkee12: latest should be 2.6.12something12:06
trappistbiatche: if you use -D you won't come back to the console.  I can't think of a time when I'd want that.  -d starts a detached screen and takes you back to the shell.12:06
nisqpaulbob2:  I am using X-chat  with ubuntu 5.1012:06
bimberinisqpaul: settings -> preferences -> general -> Announce away messages (untick)12:06
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mmiikkee12ok, so ubuntu updates more often, that question is answered.12:07
mmiikkee12can i install without a cd?12:07
topylimmiikkee12: not very easily12:07
biatchetrappist: interesting............ in the end, i know i should use -d -m ...... but ive yet to underestand the use of -D -m12:07
mmiikkee12stupid xchat12:07
nisqpaulBob2:   Thanks got it12:07
bob2nisqpaul: great, thank a lot12:07
mmiikkee12keeps beeping my computer when someoe says my nick12:07
bimberimmiikkee12: there are various ways - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation12:07
bob2mmiikkee12: same as Debian, you can debootstrap (advanced) or pxe install (intermediate)12:07
nisqpaulBimberi:   Sorry thanks12:07
trappistbiatche: -D doesn't fork a new process, which is why you're stuck with it until you attach to and terminate the screen session.  I don't know why you'd use it, but I suspect it has a purpose.12:08
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mmiikkee12looking at that, hold on12:08
bimberinisqpaul: np :)12:08
Chopstix2http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20522&page=3 can anyone help please?12:08
biatchetrappist: mysterious world of screen... but thanks12:08
trappist<3 screen12:08
LjLmmiikkee12: ubuntu definitely doesn't update more often than debian testing/unstable, tho it does update oftener than debian stable12:08
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ompaulmmiikkee12, that is your setting - check settings preferences chatting general12:09
mmiikkee12yes, i have sarge (stable12:09
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mmiikkee12just hold on.12:09
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squirrelpimpjo... i have a problem with the usbdisk automount feature... a disk always gets mounted as the currently logged in user... and others aren't allowed even to read it...12:10
mmiikkee12bimberi: found the perfect page for my problem but the page doesn't exist :P12:10
squirrelpimpwhere should i look for in order to fix it?12:10
agtnztopyli: I don't have update-alternatives... any idea what package to install?12:10
topyliLjL: running ubuntu is different from running any debian. stable is, well, stable. unstable updates every day. testing is completely insecure12:10
DShepherdagtnz: how about usplash. how do you install that?12:10
bimberimmiikkee12: :/12:10
DShepherddo you know*12:10
agtnzDShepherd: Dunno man :P12:10
squirrelpimpany suggestions??12:10
DShepherdkool agtnz.12:11
LjLtopyli: whatever, but saying that ubuntu updates packages more often than debian is simply wrong. at least, i depends on the debian12:11
mmiikkee12hold on...12:11
mmiikkee12looking12:11
DShepherdHow do I install a usplash?12:11
DShepherdneva mind12:11
topyliagtnz: every debian-like system must have update-alternatives. perhaps /usr/sbin is not in your path? try specifying /usr/sbin/update-alternatives12:11
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agtnztopyli: Yeah, that worked. ta12:13
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DShepherdwhat;s happening?12:15
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LjLwhat's the sanest way to only allow inbound net access from the local network (on certain specified ports)? i mean, *without* risking a faked-IP attack. i have multiple ethernet cards, eth0 is connected to the internet, eth1 and the rest are connected to the local network12:16
topyliLjL: yep. unstable is more vibrant. i switched to ubuntu from unstable just because of that. it's the peace of mind :)12:16
agtnztopyli: which file do i edit to add to my PATH ?12:16
topyliagtnz: .bashrc in your home directory12:17
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topylinote, it's a dot file12:17
agtnz:)12:17
badcomcomo eu crio usuario root12:17
LjLtopyli: i suppose we're different ;) myself, i very recently switched to ubuntu and like it, but i get seriously anxious every time i do an aptitude dist-upgrade (i.e. every ten minutes) and don't see anything :-)12:17
LjL!es12:17
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:17
LjL!pt12:17
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.12:17
bob2LjL: people outside your isp almost certainly cannot spoof their ip for anything aside from udp traffic12:17
DShepherdwhat package can I install to get a dock thing like Mac in Ubuntu?12:18
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LjLbob2: i care *only* about people *inside* my ISP, since all the others can't access me to begin with, as my USP puts us all behind NAT12:18
squirrelpimp!de12:18
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe12:18
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LjLbob2: and i do care about udp too anyway12:18
topyliagtnz: here's my .bashrc for reference. don't copy it straight over :) http://siltala.net/comp/dot-bashrc12:18
bob2LjL: uh, suck12:18
LjLbob2: yeah, i know12:18
agtnztopyli: appreciated :)12:19
LjLbob2: but they give me 10mbps12:19
LjLbob2: fiber optical, no adsl12:19
bob2LjL: well, just run iptables on your gateway and filter everything aside from inbound on particular ports12:19
bob2LjL: hah, nice12:19
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badcomcomo eu crio usuario root12:19
ubuntualguem ai do brasil?12:19
bob2pretty clearly not a spanish-speaking channel12:19
LjLportuguese, actually12:20
ubuntubadcom: tais ai?12:20
Madpilot!pt12:20
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.12:20
bob2ah12:20
badcomsim12:20
bob2oh, I'm blind12:20
badcomubuntu sim12:20
bob2I should go drink coffee until I'm concious12:20
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squirrelpimpanyone having an idea for my permissions-problem???12:20
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DShepherdwhat package can I install to get a dock thing like Mac in Ubuntu?12:21
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_native_l12:21
squirrelpimpDShepherd: look for gdesklets... theres one doin that!12:22
trappistsquirrelpimp: you could set your umask to 023 or something12:22
mmiikkee12can someone create this for me :) ?12:22
mmiikkee12https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallationFromLinuxHardDisk12:22
BlissexDShepherd: 'apt-cache search dock | sort -u | less' for hints12:22
LjLbob2: does this sound decent? iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport <blocked-port> -j DROP ; iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport <blocked-port> -s 192.168.0.1/24 -j ACCEPT12:22
topyliLjL: lucky you, drapper development tree is open now :)12:22
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topylidapper even12:22
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trappistok is it dapper or drapper?12:22
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DShepherdBlissex: yeah I did that...saw a package called docker12:23
anavimdapper12:23
squirrelpimptransgress: where du i set that for that automatic mounting stuff??12:23
LjLbob2: sorry, i just forgot to change it to the interface instead of the address....that would be: iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport <blocked-port> -j DROP ; iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport <blocked-port> -i eth1 -j ACCEPT12:23
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mmiikkee12nm, found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromAnotherDistro12:23
LjLbob2: assuming eth1 is my *local* network interface12:23
bob2LjL: I'd just set -P INPUT REJECT ; -A INPUT -s whatever -j ACCEPT12:23
squirrelpimptrappist: where du i set that for that automatic mounting stuff??12:23
squirrelpimpwrong addressee..12:24
LjLbob2: but isn't "-s whatever" vulnerable to IP spoofing? (still keeping in mind i'm worrying about attacks coming from inside my isp)12:24
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total_assaulthey can anyone help me install w32codecs on amd64 breezey?12:24
trappistsquirrelpimp: `umask 023` will set that as the umask for that user.  if that works, put it in a .bash_profile or something12:24
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bob2LjL: how do you plan to avoid other people spoofing ips?12:24
blackvdok new prob, everytime I log inot fluxbox my screen res resets to the default which is 128012:24
blackvd*into12:25
trappisttotal_assault: w32codecs isn't going to work on amd6412:25
bob2LjL: they can't (usefully) spoof tcp unless  they take down one of your isp's routers12:25
blackvdbut I need 102412:25
LjLbob2: i don't... but i plan to disallow anything coming from eth0 (which is the internet), and only allow stuff coming from eth1 (local network)12:25
blackvdtried sudo kcontrol then changing it12:25
total_assaulttrappist: no wonder why ive been trying to do it fro 3 hours with no avail12:25
squirrelpimptrappist: only for the automatic mounting or does if affect other thing?? theres no manpage...12:25
anavimis bugzilla really gone?  launchpad now is for reporting bugs?12:25
blackvdbut it keeps reseting everytime I login12:25
bob2LjL: oh, right12:25
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trappisttotal_assault: they're precompiled 32-bit windows (w32) binaries12:26
jvaioye forums..12:26
trappistsquirrelpimp: it sets your umask for everything12:26
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total_assaulttrappist: thats it then im installing 32 bit, too many probelms on 64 bit still no flash, no codecs etc..12:27
PhuzionCan someone help me out with getting user accounts to work on pure-ftpd?12:27
LjLbob2: i think specifying network interfaces instead of IPs would be safer, even if very slightly safer, no?12:27
LjLbob2: people can't spoof my network cards, no matter how hard they try ;) i suppose12:27
squirrelpimptrappist: so that's something i definitely don't want... because then everybody will not only be able to read the mounted volume but also all my other files...12:27
bob2LjL: right12:27
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louis_hi all12:28
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solidgrooveLjL ubuntu has new software when it is released, what is old?12:28
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LjLbob2: if i were using another ISP, i'd just ask some of you here to nmap me, see what's wrong, and fix case-by-case... but since i'm simply not reachable from anyone except my ISP's users (and i don't know any), i think i'd feel better with a more drastic approach, you see12:29
ngdHi everyone, anyone else had trouble with initrd failing to install during installation12:29
ngd?12:29
LjLsolidgroove: ubuntu has new software every six months, normally, unless you consider backports (which don't even currently exist) or some other weird stuff12:29
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agtnzLjL: Backports started existing y'day.12:29
LjLagtnz: did it? that's cool... ought to be in the topic!12:30
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strike3_native_: just to let you know - i got wep working - went back to no security first - needed reboot to get that working the wep worked no probs12:30
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Toranwhen are you guys planning on releaseing the latest version of xchat to the repositories?12:30
marlunHow come I can't find bittorrent client thats in ubuntu in the Package Manager?12:30
Phuzionmarlun:  BitTornado isn't there?12:31
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_native_strike3/ great, feels good knowing you made some progress huh. :-] 12:31
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ompaulmarlun, why not click on applications internet bittorrent ?12:31
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bob2LjL: if yor rules are going to be more than a couple of lines long, you might want to look at shorewall12:31
bob2marlun: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto, they're in universe12:32
LjLbob2: i'll have a look, thanks12:32
_native_strike3/ next stop full wpa support.12:32
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PhuzionOr sudo "apt-get install bittornado" if you don't have it installed.12:32
jvaii'm on hoary still, but the last updates i recieved were for kde things, & bfore then, a few for fetchmail12:33
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squirrelpimptrappist: it does not work btw...12:33
Phuzionmarlun: Are you KDE or Gnome?12:33
jvaiooh yea.. this morning i got upgrades for rpms??12:33
marlunPhuzion, gnome-bittorrent is the client.12:33
bob2jvai: are you using breezy?12:34
PhuzionYeah, I know that, I was going to suggest that for you.12:34
jvaii'm on gnome12:34
marlunompaul, because then it only tells me to select a torrent file, I can't set any properties or anything.12:34
bob2jvai: that's not a Debian release12:34
strike3_native_: think i'll enjoy it working with wep for a short time before upsetting it all again - incase i cant go back12:34
marlunPhuzion, gnome12:34
jvaino, i'm using hoary @bob12:34
Phuzionmarlun:  Alright, then you should have the program installed, but if not, in terminal, type "sudo apt-get install gnome-btdownload"12:35
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ompauljvai, start the line with a persons nick, then others will filter it out leave out the @ then you can do less typing this is the way of irc :)12:35
cafuego_omg, that's sexy :-)12:35
_native_bob2; ive found that the iptables match extension -m owner --cmd-owner is not present is this because the ubuntu2.6.12-9 dose not include that extension yet? cause it would be a nice feature to have.12:35
marlunPhuzion, I've got it installed :) but I was wondering why I couldn't see it in the Package Manager.12:35
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PhuzionOh, because it's probably the latest version.12:35
marlunPhuzion, and I also need a way to change the port that gnome-bittorrent uses (and set the maxupload/download)12:35
ompaulcafuego_, what is?12:36
bob2_native_: you could file a wishlist bug on the kernel asking for it to be included12:36
Phuzionmarlun, I don't have experience with the client.12:36
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marlunPhuzion, Okey, I found an explanation on the ubuntu forum but I'm totally new to this so I don't really get it :/12:36
_native_yeah it seems as though it could be very useful. i'll do that. ;-] 12:36
jvaibob, should i delete the rpm updates, i'll neva use them, there was also a note about using ALIEN for unknown apps12:37
PhuzionAlright, so can someone help me with getting PAM Authentication to work in Pure-FTPD?12:37
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cozhello all12:37
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coz has anyone tried the O&O defrag for linux?12:37
bob2O&O?12:38
cafuego_coz: On ext2/ext3 you traditionally don't bother with defragging12:38
cozO&O is the company12:38
cafuego_bob2: payware company12:38
bob2Phuzion: unless you have a onvincing reason otherwise, I'd just use proftpd12:38
bob2or no ftp at all12:38
cozI rea lize that but wanted to know id\f someon has tested this12:38
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cafuego_coz; I doubt it, spending money on a tool noone has a need for seems silly ;-)12:39
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adarhas every Ubuntu release mapped network interfaces to hotplug? On my hoary box I don't see "auto eth0" which means that /etc/init.d/networking restart always leaves me sans networking12:39
kornitoare all liveCD's supposed to allow an installation on disk ? or only some linux distros ?12:39
cozwell I think it is beta and free right now12:39
jvaiis it safe to emty the TMP folder on the daily?? i just did today.. but i couldnt undo the ICE,&ORBIT & XO ones.. i think that12:39
bob2adar: it seems to have varied between releases12:39
bob2jvai: /tmp? no.12:39
LjLkornito: i don't think every livecd there is around allows hd installation12:39
_native_kornito; some livecds have that feature some dont.12:39
cafuego_coz: ext2defrag is not beta, also free and still not needed.12:39
bob2coz: I wouldn't trust binary, closed-source stuff to touch my filesystem12:39
cozOk can all fo the .deb files be removed safely from ubuntu?12:39
jvais my issue w/ using starbucks wifi, & neva bein assign'd an ip12:40
kornitook thanx12:40
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bob2especially since I doubt it was written by a ext2/3 hacker12:40
cafuego_coz: Yes. 'sudo apt-get clean' will do it for you.12:40
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adarbob2: its problematic because I'm writing some scripts to automatically call networking stop on suspend and networking restart on resume, and there's no networking when I'm done12:40
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cozthanks12:40
adarbob2: is there any sort of workaround? any releases that aren't doing it?12:40
jgwhrm ubuntuforums.org rocks12:40
cozI'll try that12:40
kornitoi don't wanna sound like a troll, but is ubuntu overthrowing debian ?12:41
cozwowo that was fast I think I better check if they were all removed12:41
bob2adar: you can remove the hotplug lines yourself12:41
Wellyhmm.. i'm trying to sudo apt-get install openssh-server and it keeps asking me to insert the ubuntu cd12:41
bob2kornito: no12:41
Phuzionbob2, does proftpd have PAM Authentication on automatically?12:41
fruudim trying to "./configure" this KDE "window decoration" and i get this error, what can i do ?12:41
Wellywhich i have done but it doesn't recognise it12:41
bob2Phuzion: yes12:41
LjLkornito: depends what you mean, ubuntu couldn't even *exist* without debian12:41
fruudchecking for KDE... configure: error:12:41
fruudin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.12:41
fruudSo, check this please and use another prefi12:41
bob2Phuzion: bear in mind that using non-anonymous ftp is askign for trouble (ie cleartext passwords)12:41
LjLfruud: install kdelibs4-dev12:41
bob2fruud: and you're compiling..?12:41
kornitodo u think there will be more ubuntu than debian in the future ?12:41
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fruudoke thx!!!12:41
_native_kornito; no way, ubuntu is just more progressive / cutting edge12:41
bob2Welly: edit /etc/apt/sources.list to remoe the cd line if you don't want that12:42
cozapt-get clean didn't remove a single .deb file12:42
LjLfruud: using aptitude, possibly, as otherwise you'll have lots of dependencies to remove later12:42
bob2_native_: debian has newer packages than ubuntu in nearly every case12:42
Phuzionbob2, it's going to be on a local intranet, and not accessable from outside, so I'm set on security.12:42
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LjLfruud: (if you want to remove them, that is)12:42
fruudkk12:42
Wellycool cheers bob212:42
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_native_bob2; really12:42
fruud:D12:42
kornito_native_: a little less stable ? :)12:42
bob2_native_: gnome is about the only exception12:42
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_native_bob2; its based on debian testing though right?12:42
bob2_native_: more or less everything else in ubuntu comes from debian12:42
bob2_native_: no, sid12:43
_native_ahh12:43
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bob2_native_: e.g. debian had a more recent version of X than ubuntu for a few weeks, and now they are the same12:43
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LjLbob2: well, i'm not sure, but i don't think the kde 3.5 beta is in debian... though to be honest it's not in ubuntu either, it's in a separate but official rep12:43
_native_bob2; i must have read inaccurate docs,12:43
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markwargh.12:43
markwok...    make wants gcc 3.412:43
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cozI take that back it did remove the .deb files and left the ,debian .gz files nevermind12:43
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LjLmarkw: aptitude install gcc-3.412:44
bob2markw: kernel stuff?12:44
GNULinuxGeekCan anyone explain why Synaptic is not selecting any packages for upgrade?12:44
LjLmarkw: end then "export CC=gcc-3.4"12:44
bob2GNULinuxGeek: are you using breezy?12:44
bob2LjL: ah, ok12:44
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GNULinuxGeekYes12:44
Stormx2GNULinuxGeek: Because non need to be upgraded?12:44
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ompaulGNULinuxGeek, your up to date?12:44
markwbob2: yeah, gonna build a em64T smp kernel.12:44
Stormx2_native_: Good on you :)12:44
cozI am astickler for clean drives , are there any applications that help clean off the drives?12:44
kornitobob2: so why would someone stick to debian instead of ubuntu ?12:44
adarbob2: last question, do you happen to know which releases map to hotplug and which don't? Or any way I could find out on my own?12:44
GNULinuxGeekShould not be as I have not upgraded in two weeks12:45
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markwkornito: so you can ask questions in #debian.12:45
LjLkornito: unstable is more cutting edge, and stable is unbeatable for servers12:45
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ompaulGNULinuxGeek, once you upgraded you are in stable - so less things change, only things with security issues12:45
bob2kornito: I use Debian because I like the community (especially the development one), and because I think an independant free OS is very very important12:45
bob2kornito: I use ubuntu because it Just Works on my laptop12:45
Phuzionbob2:  Can you help me out here, I just installed proftpd, and its not letting me log in for some reason.12:45
bob2different audiences in the same person!12:46
bob2Phuzion: read auth.log12:46
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kornitobob ok :-)12:46
LjLbob2: i use debian stable on my server, i use ubuntu on my desktop....12:46
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martin__hey, does anyone know where gnome stores all the icons in the menu bar?12:46
Phuzionbob2:  where would it be?12:46
_native_Phuzion; log files are great for tracking down exactly whats wrong.12:46
jvaithere r like 10 items in my TMP folder.. always12:46
bob2adar: I don't, sorry.  the only thing I could suggest is looking at base-config in each releae (ie download and dpkg-deb -x foo.deb them)12:46
markwLjL: this appears to be a little bit of dependancy issue.12:46
bob2Phuzion: /var/log12:46
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Phuzionthanks12:46
LjLbob2: actually, the stuff i was asking about iptables was about debian12:46
bob2jvai: which is probably fine12:46
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LjLmarkw: what do you mean?12:46
jvaiok12:47
bob2GNULinuxGeek: breezy is stable and will not get new software, only security fixes12:47
_native_LjL; are you new to iptables configuration?12:47
ngdanyone else had initrd-tools fail on install?12:47
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Stormx2martin__: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/12:47
kornitolinux is not suitable for old people12:47
Stormx2lmao!12:47
GNULinuxGeekI will give it a week or so and see if there are any issues.  I loaded this from scratch and that might change things.12:47
LjL_native_: not "new", since i first used iptables a long time ago... but never really got into it or learned how to do stuff12:47
_native_kornito; whatever my mom loves it.12:47
kornito_native_: she must be a techie12:47
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_native_LjL; its a good implementation.12:48
tnagHi all12:48
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markwLjL: make depends on gcc-3.4 yet when you install make, it doesn't install gcc-3.4, however, it should be depending on gcc-412:48
coz/usr/share/icons12:48
_native_kornito; no way ubuntu is just user friendly.12:48
LjLGNULinuxGeek: you *will* (or should) be able to install new packages in your breezy without waiting six months, anyway... the backports rep will have new packages when they're ready12:48
ompaulkornito, I don't know a 78/9 year old guy had a mail on one the mailing lists earlier today, and he is using Ubuntu that is linux so - Wrong!12:48
martin__Stormx2: I mean the actual link for the ICON, I have a fresh install and I want to have the menu exactly as I have it now12:48
bob2markw: "make" doesn't Depend on any gcc12:48
LjLmarkw: hmm breezy? on my breezy, make doesn't depend on gcc312:48
_native_kornito; all she needs is the internet.12:48
jvaii have shorewall, & squid install'd.. but there's not a way to configure them.. i just leav them b.. -novice12:48
markwLjL: make is asking for breezy..12:48
markwhmm.  let me check the makefile12:49
grodiushow do i compile .mar files12:49
markwsec12:49
bob2jvai: eh? squid has /etc/squid/squid.conf12:49
markwnm.12:49
bob2jvai: shorewall has an example config in /usr/share/doc/shorewall/12:49
kornitoi can't imagine a grandmother doing chmod and stuff12:49
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bob2jvai: neither are end-user tools12:49
markwit's the kernel tree makefile that wants gcc-3.412:49
bob2kornito: when do you need to use chmod while writing poems about doilies and tea cups?12:49
LjLkornito: why should she have to12:49
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ompaulkornito, I know a oap social club in Dublin that uses a linux network12:49
Stormx2markw: apt-get install gcc-3.412:49
jvaiooh in the ETC/ folder..12:49
grodiuscan someone tell me how to compile a .mar file??12:49
jvainow. do i use GEDIT to edit?12:50
LjLmarkw: but is that (the kernel source) an ubuntu package?12:50
ompaulkornito, and they have a bofh running the network12:50
marlunif for example I want to know which version of python-wxgtk that is installed on my system, how can I check?12:50
markwyes12:50
PhuzionHow do I change a user's access level to allow them to access to the root of the system?12:50
bob2markw: dpkg -l packagename12:50
PhuzionSpecifically, let them access /var/www12:50
Stormx2RewriteEngine On12:50
Stormx2RewriteRule ^sig.png sig.php12:50
Stormx2 <-- Not working :(12:50
LjLmarkw: weird then, but perhaps there's some reason why the linux kernel must be compiled with gcc3 yet?12:50
kornitobut debian is too hard to install if the grandma's computer crashes12:50
allorderI just installed an eggdrop with apt-get the problem is if I don't do ./eggdrop -m /home/..../eggdrop.conf it doesnt work. someone can help pls ?12:50
markwii  linux-tree-2.6.12                               2.6.12-9.23        Linux kernel tree for building prepackaged U12:50
jvaioooh. so. once shorewall, & squid is install.. i just "leav them be"?12:50
GNULinuxGeekNight All :>)12:50
ompaulkornito, you are now trolling12:51
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martin__any ideas where to look?  Im pretty sure its and XML file12:51
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martin__just cant find it  :(12:51
bob2Phuzion: sudo addgroup webmonkeys ; sudo chgrp webmonkeys /var/www ; sudo chmod g+rwxS /var/www ; sudo adduser theirusername webmonkeys12:51
markwLjL: working on a new 64 bit box to replace my aging desktop.12:51
kakaltois anyone else having troubles with dling torrents?12:51
kakaltoI'm at 98.71%, and can't go any further12:51
Phuzionbob2: thanks12:51
kakaltoit just stalled12:51
tnagOK - I've only put this unbuntu on my latop and I'm still tryign to find my way around12:51
kakaltoand it's done that for the last day and a half12:51
kornitobob2: are you a CS grad student ?12:51
LjLmarkw: oh ic... then i'll take myself out, haven't ever used a 64bits machine, i suppose they have different issues when compiling (kernel) stuff is involved12:52
bob2Phuzion: (then add whoever else to the webmonkeys group)12:52
bob2kornito: no12:52
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jvai<-- uninstallin squid & shorewall, to rely on iptables alone12:52
tnagcan someone teel me (simply) if/how to indstall wireless cards12:52
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allorderI just installed an eggdrop with apt-get the problem is if I don't do ./eggdrop -m /home/.../eggdrop.conf it doesnt work. someone can help pls ?12:52
Phuzionbob2:  Alright, I got the group, but now I need them to be able to access said directory through FTP.12:53
jvaitnag.. i gave up.. i'm using a orinoco gold 11b card now.. & got 2 silvers on the way from ebay12:53
kornitoi struggle in the CS department. i'm a hustler12:53
martin__I need to backup the menu, exactly how it is now, and the icons I have on the menu panel, I was able to do it a few months ago, just cant find it in breezy now12:53
ompaulkornito, sit back and enjoy the lesson12:54
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blankhey, how may I run a program so it's a process, in other words, say I'm running a server of some sort, how can I have it running without having the terminal window open12:55
jvaiwith ubuntu.. i guess the best place to b .. is to stay 1 bhind the freshest.. like.. when dapper comes out.. i'll move to breezy from hoary.. is that safe?12:55
grodiusbv12:55
bob2blank: daemons will background themselves12:55
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truz24blank, you can put an & on the end of the execution command as well...12:55
Phuzionbob2:  How do I make a user able to access the root of the system through FTP.12:55
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bob2jvai: that will work, but it's kinda silly12:55
bob2Phuzion: you don'\t, that is a terrible idea12:56
bob2Phuzion: just setup the ftpd so they can access /var/www/12:56
markwdoes ubuntu support kernel-package?12:56
jvaiwhy?? hoary is working12:56
markwheh, why yes it does..12:56
Phuzionbob2:  It's my own system on a local intranet, I'm not worried about security.12:56
PhuzionNo external users.12:56
Wellyis there a way to configure network settings (ip/dns etc.) from the terminal?12:56
bob2markw: yes12:56
blanktrux24: Thanks, and how may I stop this process when I want?12:56
bob2Welly: sure, /etc/network/interfaces (man 5 interfaces)12:56
bob2Phuzion: ok12:56
amonkeyis there anyway i can boost my mic anymore? i used amixer to turn capture to 100% but it's still rather soft.12:56
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Phuzionamonkey:  you may have to look into hardware if you're at 100% boost level.12:57
Secreth`Xyay, FINALLY found one that plays all my Mp3s :)12:57
Secreth`Xnow for my movies and Im good hehe12:58
amonkeyPhuzion, amixer is for alsa(right?), what if the app i'm using uses oss, will those settings apply? is there a different mixer?12:59
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Phuzionamonkey, I'm not familiar with what software you're using, just the fact that you may need to consider getting some type of hardware amplifier in order to get your voice louder through the PC.12:59
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amonkeyPhuzion, ah. thanks for the suggestion. maybe i can find a tape player with an in or something01:01
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Sanneamonkey: usually you have an oss compatibility layer if you're using alsa (which I believe the breezy kernel implements), so the settings of alsamixer would apply also to oss apps.01:01
PhuzionHow do I change a user's home folder?01:02
martin__anyone know where de menu and panel shortcuts are stored?   I need to backup it up to a diff pc01:02
bob2Phuzion: edit /etc/passwd (carefully)01:02
markwargh.   new stuff all the time.  Pentium 820-D (dual core), so do I do SMP, or SMT?01:02
markwI'm under the impression I do SMP.01:03
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bob2smp01:03
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mjrsmp, yeah01:03
Avenhi01:03
Aveneverytime I add a user...01:03
Aventhe password automaticlly changes itself..01:03
amonkeySanne, is there a mixer for oss so i can check?01:04
Wellywhat value needs setting for "broadcast"?01:04
Sanneamonkey: hmmm... I'm having aumix in my menu, I believe this is an oss mixer. Not sure though.01:05
amonkeySanne, thanks01:05
Sanneamonkey: but I think, if it works, it does it also through the alsa compatibility layer. What I definitely know is, you can#t have both alsa and oss loaded at the same time.01:06
martin__no one else is picky on there desktop?01:06
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NoobieDoobieDo?01:06
gleesondI'm having trouble copying files off of back up dvd's that I created in windows. I can copy about half of the files then it starts saying that there is an input/output error.01:06
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Shadowpillarwhy doesn't xine upgrade?01:07
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ShadowpillarI just got a breezy CD and I'm doing a smart upgrade01:07
HobbseeShadow777: try sudo apt-get install xine01:07
Shadowpillarbut totem and xine are being removed and xine cant be installed01:08
Hobbseehmmm01:08
Secreth`Xerr01:08
Secreth`Xgotta go01:08
Secreth`Xsee ya..01:08
Shadowpillarand I upgraded all http reps as well01:08
Avenman :(((01:09
Aveneverytime I add a user, the password automaticlly changes itself :(01:09
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funkyhi01:09
funkywhats the default user/passwd for cups in ubuntu ?01:09
funkyroot/passwd doesnt work01:09
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fruudi cant compile "window decorations" i get huge errors :)01:10
meatwad65hey everyone i fixed my touchpad01:10
meatwad65but i get an error when i start gnome that says failed to initialize hal...what does that mean exactly?01:11
LjLfruud: care to be a little more specific?01:11
fruudmake[2] : *** [configdialog.lo]  Error 101:11
fruudmake[2] : Leaving directory `/root/Desktop/knifty-0.3.4/client/config'01:11
fruudmake[1] : *** [install-recursive]  Error 101:11
fruudmake[1] : Leaving directory `/root/Desktop/knifty-0.3.4/client'01:11
fruudmake: *** [install-recursive]  Error 101:11
fruudfor exmpl.01:11
Hobbseefruud: paste the errors in the pastebin!01:11
fruud*_*01:11
Hobbsee!paste01:11
ubotuwell, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text01:11
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LjLthat doesn't mean anything, anyway, the real errors are well before that01:11
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Hobbseefruud: /topic01:12
fruudok ill post01:12
Hobbsee:)01:12
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fruuddone01:13
fruudposted now01:13
LjLfruud: URL?01:13
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fruudhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/432401:13
Shadowpillardoes gstreamer support dvd playback yet?01:13
meatwad65is there a ubuntu guide for 5.10 yet?01:13
LjLfruud: also, can you give me the URL you downloaded that knifty from, so i can try compiling it?01:13
Shadowpillar*GOOD* dvd playback?01:13
fruudkk01:13
fruudhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28801:13
Hobbsee!tell meatwad65 about faq01:13
fruudthere01:13
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LjLfruud: from the errors you gave, it looks like that program is broken with ubuntu, but let me give it a try01:14
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fruudaight aight, go ahead01:14
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LjLfruud: that URL is about "silver deco", which isn't a compilable package...01:15
LjLer, i mean, it isn't source code01:15
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kornitotoo many linux distros. this is all whack01:15
Homernever fear01:16
Homerhomer is here01:16
Homer!!!01:16
ubotu! is, like, what you add before a sentence to talk to me01:16
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fruud:O01:16
ojthi guys01:16
jgw! `cat /etc/passwd`01:16
ubotujgw: Do they come in packets of five?01:16
Hobbseehi ojt01:16
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LjLfruud: what's URL to the archive you're actually trying to *compile*? i suppose it's knifty, but01:16
ojtgot a poblem here01:16
Shadowpillarthis shit is pissing me off01:16
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SeveasShadowpillar, please watch your language...01:17
HomerI agree, we should all work on one distro01:17
Homerlets call it United Linux !01:17
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fruudhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=7290&id=101:17
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LjLwhat did he say?01:17
badcomQuando tento gravar algo no disquete, aparece que nao tenho permissao. O que fao01:17
Seveas!es01:17
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:17
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LjL!pt01:17
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.01:17
Seveasah right01:17
Seveasso similar to the outsider01:18
fruudLjL, will this work for me ? Really want that one ( http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12330 )01:18
germanHello01:18
Seveashi german01:18
LjL;) i sometimes take them both for italian, and i *am* italian, go figure01:18
germanHi Seveas, need some help...01:18
Seveasgerman, let's hope we can help... what's the problem?01:19
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blankSeveas & LjL = Teh Pimpz01:19
blank!ubotu!01:19
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.01:19
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blank*crying* I cant pway wit ubotu01:19
Seveasblank, don't play with the bot01:19
HrdwrBoB!play01:19
ubotuAll work and no play. Please don't play with me in the channel; experiment with me in /msg01:19
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germanwhen I start linux appear in the shell...01:20
blankdanke01:20
germanUmcomppressing Linux...01:20
germanthen it appears01:20
macintoshrheh 5 minutes ago i had 10 5.10 cds01:20
macintoshrnow i have 301:20
blankwhy01:20
ojtwhat does these means?01:20
meatwad65wow that help documentation really helps01:20
Seveasmacintoshr, 2 weeks ago I had 700, now I have 10001:20
macintoshrone x86, one amd64 and one PPC...01:20
ojtE: /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org2-core_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4_i386.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive01:20
meatwad65i didn't know it was embedded that easily01:20
germanPnp: PnPACPI:Method_Name__CRS Failure for PNP0c0201:21
Seveasojt, sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install openoffice.org201:21
germanand01:21
LjLfruud: just hold on some minutes, i've got to install the kde devs package to compile that stuff01:21
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ojtseveas,ok01:21
fruudaight :)01:21
fruudnp np01:21
fruudty for helping LjL01:21
fruud(Y)01:21
germanPnp: PnPACPI: Method_name__CRS Failure for PNP0c0101:21
ghostfreeman_How do I enable the VNC service from a secure shell?01:21
Seveasgerman, hmm, sounds like a buggy bios01:22
Seveasdoes it end there or does it still continue to start up?01:22
germanit ends there01:22
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germanthen it starts with [OK] 01:22
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ojtseveas,here's the result01:23
germanlike... doing stuff..........................[OK] 01:23
ojtseveas,openoffice.org2: Depends: openoffice.org2-core (> 1.9.129) but it is not going to be installed01:23
Seveasojt, apt-get install openoffice.org2-core01:23
Seveasoutput on the pastebin01:23
ojtseveas,ok01:23
Seveasgerman, and no more than that?01:23
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seth_k|lappyAnyone know how to get phpEclipse working with Breezy's 3.1.1ubuntu1 Eclipse packages? The wiki instructions don't work01:24
germanSeveas, no, just those 2 lines, then everyting is normal01:24
ArnoudDeVriesAnyone who got mod_mono installed on 5.10 with apache2?01:24
germanbut im worried about thjose 2 lines01:24
ojtseveas,can i ask what's the cause of these erors?01:25
Seveasgerman, try bootng with acpi=off as kernel parameter01:25
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Seveasojt, yes you can, but I don't know01:25
Seveasthat's why I requested the output of that command ;)01:25
LjLfruud: you're using the wrong version of KNifty, you need this one: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=884101:25
meatwad65does anyone know why pan development died? i thought it was the best newsreader01:25
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germanSeveas, it like you're talking chinesse to me :P01:26
Seveasmeatwad65, it's slowly creeping out of a standstill01:26
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fruudwill it work for me with the other one i said to ya i really wanted to ? if u find a working verison :)01:26
LjLgerman: while GRUB is visible before booting, follow the instruction to "edit the command line", and add "acpi=off" to that command line01:26
sockpuppe1what is the command to fond out whats running on a certain port?01:27
Seveasgerman, paste the file /boot/grub/menu.lst on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:27
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fruudLjL, this one  ( http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12330 )01:27
Seveassockpuppe1, sudo netstat -tlnp01:27
ojtsevas,ok thnx anyways01:27
Wellyright, i changed /etc/networking/interfaces I *think* correctly.. restarted networking and the new IP address looked to be correct as I could ping it, however I couldn't ping www.yahoo.co.uk01:27
Wellyi've looked at /etc/resolv.conf and my dns servers are set up correctly01:27
Wellydoing ifconfig showed nothing01:27
blankanyone know where I can get the limewire through apt get or the limewire tarball?01:27
LjLfruud: that one doesn't seem to have anything to do with KNifty. let me try to compile it as well01:28
Seveas!limewire01:28
ubotufrom memory, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.01:28
yaoming01:28
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fruudokey, sry for beein pain in the ass :p01:28
kbrooksis limewire prop?01:28
jvailjl.. i do this everytime during boot.. is there anyway i can make that stay, bcause i wanna add my gyrl as a user, she know sqwat about editing the boot menu01:28
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kbrooksproprietary01:28
germanthanks Seveas, ill try it01:28
sockpuppe1its opensource01:29
Tokenizeri have a second hardrive with nothing in it, made in fat32 blank.. i can't mount it using any of the following commands/utilities: fdisk , ubuntu disk manager, and mount01:29
LjLjvai: yeah, look at /boot/grub/menu.lst01:29
Tokenizerany ideas?01:29
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jvaibut when i go there i cant edit.. it's read only01:29
sockpuppe1has anyone tried frostwire01:29
fruudLjL, Still getting humooongos errors of that knifty u gave me :O01:29
sockpuppe1?01:29
n0odl3is it possible to sudo apt-get xfce?01:29
Seveasn0odl3, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop01:29
kbrooksn0odl3: add "install"01:29
n0odl3Seveas" so its xubuntu-desktop01:30
Seveasn0odl3, yeah01:30
xx94nnoooo!01:30
xx94my apt-get is still messed upp01:30
shwagmy mplayer plugin in firefox only plays streaming videos choppy. its a software issue, but i dont know how to fix it.01:30
ramblingturtlewhen trying to update my system i get an error saying that packages can not be authenticated and receive the same message when trying to install programs like gnomebaker. any ideas on what this means or how to fix it would be appericated01:30
meatwad65so there has been pan development lately?01:30
Seveasxx94, paste the errors you get on the pastebin01:30
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xx94do i need more config files01:31
Seveasmeatwad65, not much01:31
LathropWellsTokenizer - one of the nce people here created a very useful scrip called winmac_fstab to find and mount all partitions easily.01:31
meatwad65i heard there was progress back in like may but haven't heard anything since01:31
LathropWells!ntfs01:31
ubotuI guess ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions01:31
meatwad65thats a shame01:31
Tokenizerlathropwell.. actually it was an NTFS drive before that i mounted using winmac_fstab01:31
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ramblingturtlei am trying to install the programs via synaptic by the way01:31
meatwad65does anyone here use newsreaders at all?01:32
LjLfruud: install also kdebase-dev, and it should work01:32
Tokenizernow i formated it, but a line remains in /etc/fstab that says /dev/hdb1 is an ntfs drive..... i commented it, how can i remove the winmac_fstab script that i ran (i.e. undo it) and start over01:32
LjLmeatwad65: yeah, knode :)01:32
fruudoke oke .)01:32
LathropWellsTokenizer - what command are you using to mount it (syntax) and what errors are you seeing?01:32
Seveasmeatwad65, pan ;)01:32
JanCTokenizer: remove the old entry for the NTFS partition from fstab & re-run the script?01:33
foobaris there a hotkey combo to spawn a terminal?01:33
germanSeveas... it's posted01:33
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meatwad65i heard this bnr is cross-platform01:33
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meatwad65i've used it in windows before01:33
LjLfoobar: F4 in KDE, dunno in gnome01:33
meatwad65i used klibido before which seems to be the closest thing to pan01:33
xx94http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/432601:33
Tokenizeractually i did that it didn't work... what i did is that i removed the etc/fstab entry just now and went through re formating using the gnome tool at System>Admin>disks ..... now it works01:34
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Seveasgerman, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/f432701:34
ryanpghi all... the one thing preventing me from going to ubunut is the absence of xorg RC1/RC2, is it currently possible to install this package on breezy?01:34
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LathropWellsTokenizer - Thats Great :001:34
LathropWells:)01:34
Seveasspot the difference (it's marked)01:34
Seveasand edit that file01:34
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h4znhow can i plaqy wmp files on ubuntu?01:34
meatwad65what are the new xorg versions supposed to give now?01:35
ryanpgIIRC when I last looked into the issue xorg RC1 was not yet in dapper, has it made it in yet and if so could I pull that package into breezy?01:35
germanlet me check it ;)01:35
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brettI need urgent help. Something wack happend with my main account I made during installation so I deleted it and made a new one. I need to get back onto the admin panel to see something but it won't let me...what can I do?01:35
JanCfoobar: if there isn't one by default, you can set a hotkey in System-->Preferences-->Hotkeys (or something like that, non-English Ubuntu here)01:35
h4znhow can i plaqy wmp files on ubuntu?01:36
h4znhow can i play wmp files on ubuntu?01:36
brett:\01:36
Tokenizerwell.. one thing remains...... you know the window in  System>Admin>Disks ..... when i click on drive i can format it, then i can click enable......... that works and i can browse the device which is emtpy... then i try to look at fstab again, and i see no entry for /dev/hdb ..... when i click on "Computer" under places menu .... i see no icon for my drive...... how can i now add this device so that it is's usable.....01:37
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Hobbsee!tell h4zn about w32codecs01:37
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brettCan no one help?01:37
dvhartI'm having trouble getting my hplip printer to work.  The scanner works via saned and hplip, but the printer doesn't.  Cups just says it's aborting jobs, and hp-toolbox says it's "powered down or unplugged"01:37
bimberibrett: boot into recovery mode and "adduser <newuser> admin"01:38
LjLbrett: i think you just aren't in the sudoers list anymore, 'cause only the first-created user is. but i don't quite know how to solve that01:38
dvhartI've tried over both usb and network (powered down msg over network only)01:38
foobarjanc: thanks =)01:38
h4znhow can i play wmv files on ubuntu?01:38
titanium2i ssh to my ubuntu box using Putty (from windows). im running a certain program which i want to leave running all the time, so i do ./binary & to start it, and then 'exit' to logout and close putty; however since i have something running in the bg putty just sits there and i have to force-close it. is there a better way to get something to run all the time? (i already have it set to run on system startup but it crashes sometimes and i have to re-01:38
germanSeveas, so the line is kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda6 ro quiet splash acpi=off01:38
xx94*seveas* do u know what the problem is w/ myn apt01:38
germanthanks!!01:38
bretthow do I boot into recovery mode? When grub comes up?01:38
Seveasgerman, yup01:38
germanno i'll try it01:38
LjLh4zn: have you seen ubotu's replies?01:38
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Seveasxx94, did you paste the errors on the pastebin?01:38
bimberibrett: where <newuser> is the name of the new account01:38
xx94mhewh01:39
germanjust save the new file & reboot??01:39
brettwhat?01:39
bimberibrett: yes01:39
Seveasgerman, yes01:39
brettok brb01:39
xx94http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/432601:39
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xx94*seveas* did u get it?01:39
Seveaslooking...01:40
fruudhow did i open .deb files agian ? :(01:40
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bimberifruud: sudo dpkg -i <file>01:40
JulfiskCan I disable join and quit messages?01:40
Seveasxx94, woah -- looks like a server error01:41
JulfiskI use xchat01:41
meatwad65is there a way so gnome automatically activates wlan0 on startup?01:41
germanok Seveas, i'm rebooting now01:41
germanhhaa01:41
Seveasxx94, can you post your sources.list on the bin too please01:41
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xx94ok01:41
shadeofgreyhey everybody01:41
germanhope u're right01:41
NoobieDoobieDohi01:41
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shadeofgreyi need guidance...01:41
psusianyone know why configure scripts would say the compiler can not create executables?  of course it can01:41
dvhartmeatwad65, you can do that in /etc/network/interfaces01:41
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meatwad65thanks01:42
dvhartmeatwad65, it isn't really gnome's job01:42
dvhartmeatwad65, 'auto wlan0'01:42
bimberipsusi: have you installed the build-essential package?01:42
shadeofgreyanybody present have a lot of experience, otr atleast a moderate amount ofexperience turning a ubuntu installation into a powerful standalone mailserver?01:42
psusibimberi, yep...01:42
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meatwad65i wasn't sure where that was at thanks01:42
bimberipsusi: hm01:42
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jgwhrm everytime an opengl screensaver runs my entire machine locks up, except i can still move the mouse cursor01:43
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shadeofgreyif so, someone please private message me so that we can get a private dialogue going....   my boss wants me to puit togethger afully functioning mailserver using ubuntu01:43
JulfiskI can't run quake2 through wine with opengl01:43
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xx94*seveas* http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/433101:43
shadeofgreyactually he wantss meto use fedora or some other vcersion of linux01:43
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shadeofgreyi convinced him that ubuntui is a better option01:44
xx94*seveas* thats my souces.list01:44
jon_This is Brett_ I got my account back01:44
solidgrooveJulfisk, why are you using wine, get binary01:44
meatwad65should cd's automount?01:44
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shadeofgreybut unfortunately have no idea how to go about it so any help; on that front would be morw than appreciated01:44
jgwshade: its pretty much the same as any other distro01:44
shadeofgreyhry everybody01:44
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Julfisksolidgroove, I'm all new to linux in general. And I really can't get q2 work that way :p01:44
germanHi Seveas01:44
jon_I'm getting errors when I boot. Now for some odd reason it's saying "You need to be root to run this program"01:44
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shadeofgreyis the stable full version of openoffivce 2 stable available through synaptic yet?01:45
germanThanks!!01:45
Hobbseeshadeofgrey: no01:45
hav0khey, whats up with the i386 and i586 and i686 stuff?01:45
germanSeveas, my problem is solved. :)01:45
Seveasxx94, these sources work fine here at the moment, can you try 'sudo apt-get update' again to see if they work for you now01:45
Seveasgerman, cool01:45
hav0kwhat does all that mean01:45
germancan you please exlain me what i have done??01:45
LathropWellsshadeofgrey, - take a look at this article http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.04_p601:45
germanhhaha01:45
Seveasgerman, the error messages were about broken acpi stuff, so we disabled acpi01:46
bimberi!ooo201:46
ubotuTest packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html01:46
Seveasto make this permanent you need to add acpi=off to the line in menu.lst that starts with KOPT01:46
Seveasor #KOPT01:46
germanand what's broken acpi, its there any problem with my computer??01:46
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Seveasgerman, is the machine fairly old?01:47
jon_bimberi : I need to ask you a question...I'm Brett_, This is the account I deleted and recovered, my bottom bar where my trash bin and etc is; it isn't there anymore.01:47
germannop01:47
jgwis there a way to disable the screensaver via the commandline? in my settings, that is. i cant turn them off in the gui, because everytime i open the screen saver config app, the opengl preview locks my machine up01:47
_Dez!cheatcodes01:47
ubotu_Dez: What?01:47
germani just bought it a few months ago01:47
_Dezanyone know the cheatcodes for ubuntu01:47
LjLfruud: still here?01:47
Seveas_Dez, wth do you mean?01:47
_Dezi need to dissable Raid and acpi01:47
xx94*seveas* still no work ill post error in #paste ok?01:47
germanit's an Intel pentium 401:47
Seveasxx94, k01:47
Seveasgerman, hmm, that IS weird01:48
bimberijon_: right-click on the top-panel and create a new panel01:48
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jon_I did. Now it's empty.01:48
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_Dezhow do i disable -> disable Raid and acpi01:48
fruudyes, this aint goin very good...01:48
Tokenizerok.... finally got it mounted however it's readonly...... how can i set the permission to this drive called /dev/hdb/ that is empty so thta i could drag and drop files to it.... i mounted /dev/hdb to /media/hdbdrive ...... i tried chmod 777 the hdbdrive however i got permission error01:49
fruudi get errors all over again01:49
bimberijon_: now right-click on it and add applets (trash is about half way down - under Desktop & WIndows)01:49
Blippewhere is the alsa-settings? i want to check the dmix settings...01:49
germanSeveas, I've been running Win XP  with non problems at all... well maybe some virus and stuff01:49
jon_Oh k..thanks!01:49
shadeofgreyno i dont mean the test versiuon...  i mean the actual stable final release of oo.oorg201:49
bimberijon_: np :)01:49
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jon_Errors keep popping up for no reason now like this: The Application "gnome-panel" has quit unexpectedly.01:50
LissaSleepwth?!01:50
doogluswhenever I try to run an X application from the command line I see "Tried to connect to session manager, networkIdsList argument is NULL".  I googled for that string and found exactly 0 matches!01:50
LissaSleepmy laptop is working01:50
LissaSleep*boggle*01:50
jon_brb01:50
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Seveasgerman, please file a bug in http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com against the 'linux' component describing your error messages01:50
Tokenizeranyone... anyone knows how to set permission for /dev/hdb so that i could right to it? right now chmod'ing it is not working01:50
shwagmy mplayer plugin in firefox only plays streaming videos choppy. its a software issue, but i dont know how to fix it.  Can someone recommend some sort of troubleshootin method ?01:51
germani'll do that01:51
Seveasthen the developers know about the problem01:51
psusiif I wanted to use strace to see what external programs get invoked a a program... what system call do I need to trace?  -eexecve or -efork don't show any calls01:51
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Seveasalso attacht /var/log/dmesg (after *removing* acpi=off again and rebooting)01:51
germanseveas, i've nver used bugzilla before, this is my first time!! :P01:51
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Seveasgerman, *g*, ig you need help with it, just shout01:51
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walterHello. I have installed kubuntu, it went through fine. But when I try to get into X, it says 'Fatal error: no screens found' Yes yes, I have tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, trying many different drivers and settings. It still will not boot.01:52
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xx94*seveas* just pasted it01:52
walterMy specs are: AMD Athlon 64 3400+, 1 gig ram, ATI Radeon x800 gto01:52
walter:/01:52
jon_bimberi: I keep getting 2 errors when I boot onto my desktop: You need to be root to run this program....and missing command to run01:52
theinewalter, could you post /etc/X11/xorg.conf over at pastebin.com?01:53
jon_And GAIM just starts to run..01:54
theinejon_, do you get these messages right after the login screen?01:54
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LissaSleepwalter: You're going to have issues with it. Also make sure you're using a 64 build of ubuntu.01:54
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bimberijon_: i'm not sure sorry, any clues as to what program, then you can look for what's calling it01:54
LissaSleepit's an issue w/ ATI chipsets01:54
jon_theine: Yes, right when I boot into my system the errors start.01:54
Seveasjon_, system -> preferences -> sessions01:54
Seveas3rd tab (starup programs)01:54
theinejon_, see above...01:55
h4znLjL, yes01:55
jon_Alright i'm there.01:55
h4znbut they still dont work01:55
_Dezhow do i disable -> disable Raid and acpi01:55
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Seveas_Dez, acpi=off on the commandline01:55
Seveasand disable the various initscripts for raid/evms etc...01:55
jon_So now what?01:55
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doogluspsusi: execve01:55
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Seveasjon_, *kernel* commadn line, sorry01:55
Seveaswhich means: editing /boot/grub/menu.lst01:56
jon_What does that mean? I just got my Linux system up yesterday01:56
psusidooglus, I tried strace -eexecve, didn't show any calls01:56
psusijust a bunch of SIGCHLDs01:56
doogluspsusi: I did a test case using "find -exec".  I needed to use "strace -f" for some reason to see the execve.  look: $ strace -f find . -type f -exec /bin/ls -l '{}' ";" 2>&1 | grep ' exec'01:56
dooglus[pid  7097]  execve("/bin/ls", ["/bin/ls", "-l", "./10000"] , [/* 36 vars */] ) = 001:56
psusihrm...01:56
Melissa83walter: What worked for me was using the VESA drivers01:56
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fendermanhi everybody :)01:57
doogluspsusi: why don't I see the execve call if I don't use the -f flag to strace?01:57
psusibeats me01:57
Melissa83walter: Plus my laptop is EXTREMELY sensitive as to screen resolution. Also, I'm told that the CVS of Xorg supports the ati chipsets, so i'm working on getting those.01:57
bimberiSeveas: last 2 lines posts meant for _Dez (not jon_)?01:57
SGershon:P I've installed ApachePHP and mySQL. How can I make them work together?01:57
ojtseveas,thnx a lot01:57
jon_Ok...01:57
pdki came to ask again01:57
ojtseveas,it works01:57
jon_So, i'm in the sessions and now what? How can I get theese errors to stop?01:58
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pdkif anyone has any idea what's up with this error i get everytime i try to run the ubuntu install cd on this old comp i have01:58
pdkor any linux livecd for that matter :\01:58
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bimberijon_: anything listed in the startup programs tab?01:58
xx94*seveas* got big error once more01:58
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fendermani have the dumbest question but please help me, how can i learn to use ubuntu? i mean command line and all01:58
Seveasbimberi, nice catch :|01:58
xx94*seveas* other error in #paste01:58
pdki wrote a log of one of my attempts if it helps01:58
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PhuzionHow do I make a user have full access in /var/www01:58
bimberiSeveas: go to bed! :P01:59
psusiAHA!01:59
jon_No. But GAIM starts up and 2 errors pop up. And when I was trying to add more panels to the panel and error kept coming up when I came half way down01:59
psusiomg... it's trying to link an elf-i386 image.. no wonder it is failing01:59
Melissa83fenderman: http://www.linuxcommands.org01:59
ArnoudDeVriesanyone using mod_mono with apache2?01:59
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psusinow WTF is it doing that?01:59
Seveasxx94, are you behind some sort of filering procy perhaps?01:59
doogluspsusi: I think that clone() is the system call you need to look for01:59
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anavimwhat is bendy?01:59
PhuzionArbiydDeVries, what do you need, just to install it?01:59
fendermanthanks melissa, i'll check that for sure but is there a book or something more "straight foreward" that you can recommend02:00
ArnoudDeVriesyes tried installing it but getting error 50302:00
preglowthere used to be a package for the x nvidia driver, yes? can anyone remember what it is/was called? i upgraded to breezy and my x doesn't take too kindly to me anymore02:00
psusidooglus, I didn't really want the fork... execve is what I was looking for... shows the command line it passed to ld02:00
psusiand it's telling ld to make an elf-i386 image for some reason02:00
psusiwhich is probably why it is failing02:00
_Dezhow do i disable RAID and ACPI when booting?>02:00
PhuzionArnoudDeVries, you modded apache2.conf, correct?02:00
ArnoudDeVriesyes02:00
Melissa83fenderman: Well, for more advanced reading (and not a bad book either if you can stomach it) is "Unix: In a Nutshell"02:00
theinepsusi, what kind of image do you want to generate?02:00
eliezerhello people! i wonder if you can help me. i have two HD, one has Windows, the other one Linux. Im on the linux one right now (obvously ;) ) but Id like to transfer some of my files to the Linux HD before getting rid of the windows one. Suggestions?02:00
doogluspsusi: problem is, the process uses 'clone' to make a new process, and after that you're no longer tracing the child, so you don't see the exec.02:00
anavimis bendy the the old name for 5.10 which is now breezy?02:00
PhuzionArnoudDeVries, follow these instructions.02:00
Phuzionhttp://www.apacheworld.org/modmono/INSTALL02:00
doogluspsusi: unless you 'strace -f'02:00
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germanSeveas, tell me if it's ok02:01
ArnoudDeVriesi recompiled with debugging on and i see in the apache log errors about now finding the socket02:01
theine_Dez, for raid, sudo dpkg-reconfigure mdadm02:01
psusitheine, seeing as how I'm on amd64, I would think it should use that02:01
germani'm not english native speaker02:01
psusidooglus, right...02:01
fendermani just love ubuntu and don't want to stop using it because i don't know how to use it02:01
ArnoudDeVriesi'll take a look thanks02:01
theinepsusi, elf-i386 runs fine on AMD6402:01
jon_I KNOW WHAT IT IS!!02:01
germanI'm running an intel pentium 4 machine, with Ubuntu version 5.04, and when booting linux the appears the following:02:01
germanPnp:PnPACPI:Method_Name__CRS Failure for PNP0C0202:01
germanPnp:PnPACPI:Method_Name__CRS Failure for PNP0C0102:01
germanPlease help me!!02:01
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sexcopter8000mis it possible to control cpu scaling? mine goes down to 798mhz, but there must be instances where i can drop it even lower quite safely...02:01
anavimfenderman, so don't02:01
xx94*seveas* im not sure02:01
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doogluspsusi: it's basically a fork-and-exec, except it's using clone() instead of fork()02:01
_Deztheine what about ACPI02:01
psusitheine, yea... but I don't think the compiler can create them by default02:01
PhuzionHow do I make a user have full read/write access to /var/www?02:01
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xx94*seveas* but i run a couple servers on my box02:01
theine_Dez, take a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst02:02
jon_Last night I was doing the updates, I clicked before I logged out when I boot back into the screenname that the updates will automatically install...but they aren't02:02
dooglusPhuzion: if only one user wants access, change it to be owned by that user:  sudo chown dood:dood /var/www02:02
Phuziondooglus, will root be able to get into there too?02:02
dooglusPhuzion: root can get everywhere :)02:02
eliezerhello people! i wonder if you can help me. i have two HD, one has Windows, the other one Linux. Im on the linux one right now (obvously ;) ) but Id like to transfer some of my files to the Linux HD before getting rid of the windows one. Suggestions?02:02
PhuzionSweet.02:02
Phuziondooglus, what is the dood:dood?02:03
theine_Dez, you need to add "acpi=off" to the kopt line, i.e. replace "# kopt=root=/dev/hdX ro" by "# kopt=root=/dev/hdX ro acpi=off"02:03
jon_C'mon, no one knows how to fix this?02:03
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n0odl3how do i change my background with xfce?02:03
dooglusPhuzion: alternatively, you could use the group instead:  add your user to the www-data group (sudo adduser dood www-data) and change the group of the dir to be www-data (sudo chgrp www-data /var/www) then make it group-writable: (sudo chmod g+w /var/www)02:03
Unitionim having problems getting the dvd to run on my computer...02:03
psusiwait... I'm confused now...02:03
theinejon_, what error message are you actually getting?02:03
dooglusPhuzion: that is the username twice02:03
psusi[pid 18763]  execve("/usr/bin/ld", ["/usr/bin/ld", "--eh-frame-hdr", "-m", "elf_i386", "-dynamic-linker", "/lib/ld-linux.so.2", "/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4."..., "/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4."..., "/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4."..., "-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/usr02:03
psusi/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/lib/../lib32", ...] , [/* 53 vars */] ) = 002:03
anavimjon_, did you try to reinstall?02:03
dooglusPhuzion: I'm assuming your user is called dude02:03
Unitionim getting a black screen when it try's to boot the live dvd02:03
psusiI see that in the strace output... why is elf_i386 in there?02:04
jon_1 sec let me exit my account and relog in brb02:04
theinepsusi, elf_i386 is fine, I tell ya02:04
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doogluspsusi: is that from "strace -f"?02:04
Phuziondooglus, so it would be chown Phuzion:Phuzion /var/www?02:04
psusihrm...02:04
psusidooglus, yes02:04
eliezerim in trouble and i need help. :( //  i have two HD, one has Windows, the other one Linux. Im on the linux one right now (obvously ;) ) but Id like to transfer some of my files to the Linux HD before getting rid of the windows one. Suggestions?02:04
psusimaybe there's a better way to trace this... can you ask bash to echo commands it processes in the configure script?02:05
bimberieliezer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:05
theineeliezer, boot linux and copy them over02:05
dooglusPhuzion: yeah.  but the group thing is probably better.02:05
PhuzionAlright02:05
jgwhrm ati 9x000 vid card + opengl screensaver + ubuntu 5.10 == lockup / solution == install fglrx xorg driver, which wasnt installed by default02:05
psusithat way I can just look at what configure is running, not all the grand children02:05
theinepsusi, look at config.log02:05
dooglusPhuzion: 'cos then, in the future, you can add more users to the group to give them access.02:05
eliezerthe thing is that the Windows HD is not being recognized.02:05
eliezerIf im on Windows I can't see the HD with Linux.02:05
dooglusPhuzion: when the little Phuzions grow up and want websites of their own...  :)02:05
psusitheine, useless... just says configure: exit 7702:05
theinepsusi, that's the only thing it's saying??02:06
doogluspsusi: the -m is for eMulation, apparently02:06
eliezerI guess theyre not on Master/Slave configuration, I can't open my CPU to verify that because the warranty would be avoided. =P02:06
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psusitheine, well, it shows a bunch of variables it has02:06
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ryanpgso no one knows if xorg RC1 are available for breezy?02:06
theineeliezer, you need to mount the windows partition by hand then02:06
psusiit doesnot show the command it invoked that failed02:06
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_Dez.xinitrc02:06
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theinepsusi, can you paste it at pastebin.com?02:06
_Dezwhere do i change these02:06
eliezerhow can i do that theine?02:06
psusiok...02:06
doogluspsusi: "bash -x" will echo commands as it runs them02:06
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theineeliezer, which partition is your windows installation on?02:06
doogluspsusi: or "set -x" in a running bash02:06
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eliezeris not a partition, i have two HD.02:07
jon_The errors didn't pop up this time.02:07
_Dezhow do i change this .xinitrc02:07
theineeliezer, you still have at least one partition.02:07
_Dezi mean where is .xinitrc locaed02:07
jon_But I still have one more problem. Can anyone help?02:07
bimberijon_: i'm stumped (hence unresponsive) sorry :|02:07
theineeliezer, or in this case at least 2 of course02:07
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psusihttp://pastebin.com/42499802:08
eliezerok, I guess windows it's on C: and linux on D:02:08
theine_Dez, why do you want to change ~/.xinitrc ?02:08
jon_bimberi : I don't get the errors anymore, but whenever I try to add a panel it freezes...02:08
Phuziondooglus, I'm still getting my 500 request denied message.02:08
Seveasxx94, first check whether you actually use a proxy02:08
PhuzionI'm trying to make a user have full read/write access through FTP.02:08
Seveas.me off to bed now02:08
PhuzionAnd apparently it's not working.02:08
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PhuzionLater Seveas02:08
jon_Seeya02:09
theineeliezer, it's better you boot linux and ask for help then02:09
eliezerok theine. im sorry.02:09
eliezerthank you so much anyway.02:09
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theineeliezer, no worries, it'll just be easier02:09
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shadeofgreyokay guys02:09
eliezer(: fine, see ya.02:09
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shadeofgreyim going toi sign off and do abase server install of ubuntu to see what it looks like02:10
shadeofgreybe back in 45 mins or so02:10
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nebularso I'm compiling a kernel for the first time in a long time and I"m noticing that it says root device is (3,2). Does that mean the device I"m booting off of is hard coded?02:10
LathropWellseliezer - Have you tried the winmac_fstab script to find and mount all drives follow ubotu !ntfs - for windows xp to see linux formatted partitions google explore ext2fs it is a driver for windows02:10
cyphase*sigh* http://www.livejournal.com/users/bleeter/12357.html02:11
LathropWellshe left -shrug02:11
theinehe'll be back...02:11
cafuego_bleater?02:11
_Dezhow do i Get to shell from WM02:11
xx94*seveas*  no proxy02:11
theine_Dez, which WM?02:11
_Dezmvm02:11
_Deznvm*02:11
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theine_Dez, mwm?02:12
jon_bimberi: I'm getting this error: The window "Add to panel" is not responding. Forcing  this application to quit  will cause you to lose any unsaved changes.02:12
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psusiAHA!02:12
PhuzionIf a file is created by root, can it be deleted by a user that has full acceses to the directory?02:12
psusiit's the damn -m32 flatg02:12
psusiflag02:12
cusco1:11 DCC can't create file /media/storage/irc/lol.mp3: Permission denied02:12
psusiremoved that from CFLAGS in configure and it makes it past that02:12
cuscoplease02:12
psusiit looks like gcc on amd64 does not like -m3202:12
theine_Dez, left, middle. or right click on the desktop and select xterm. can't remember which02:13
bimberijon_: yes, i'm at loss to help with it sorry :/02:13
cusco/media/storage is a fat32 partition02:13
jon_Ohhh, anybody else?02:13
cuscowhich is mounted on fstab as /dev/hda5       /media/storage  vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=0222   0       002:13
bimberijon_: actually. a thought.  did you say you deleted and created the account?02:13
jon_Yes02:13
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bimberijon_: with the same name?02:13
theinepsusi, what are you actually compiling?02:14
jon_Yeah02:14
chckenseveas:do you use breezy02:14
psusitheine, grub02:14
jon_Recovery mode again?02:14
bimberijon_: ok, try this...02:14
bimberijon_: no02:14
jon_k02:14
theinepsusi, maybe you should file a bug report02:14
cuscowhat do I have to change so I can write to /media/storage/irc/ ?02:14
psusitheine, going to try and debug it to figure out why the hell it is opening /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 and looking for an MBR there when I give it a setup (hd0) command02:14
chckenseveas02:15
bimberijon_: open a terminal, "cd ..", "sudo chown -R user:user user"02:15
psusiafter I gave it a device (hd0) /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae command02:15
cuscoI chmoded the dir 777 with sudo02:15
PhuzionAre files made by root untouchable by other users, regardless of whether or not they have full access to the directory?02:15
psusibut report probably will be ignored02:15
psusiI'd rather get it working02:15
bimberijon_: where user is your username02:15
_Dezhow do i add Fluxbox to auto start on boot?02:15
theinepsusi, wrong attitude ;)02:15
chckencan anyone tell me how to install java on breezy02:15
jon_So how do I type it?02:15
psusioh, I'll file a report after I fix it02:15
psusiand include the patch02:15
psusilike I did with lilo02:15
cuscoPhuzion: how do I mount the partition so taht I can allow users to create files on it then?02:16
bimberijon_: for example   -   sudo chown bimberi:bimberi bimberi02:16
cusco/dev/hda5       /media/storage  vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=0222   0       002:16
chckencan anyone tell me how to install java on breezy02:16
theinepsusi, but anyway, I thought grub isn't even aware of device-mapper stuff...02:16
jon_so user:user pass02:16
psusitheine, it isn't... it doesn't know or care... as long as it knows which block device corresponds to which bios disk and partition02:16
Phuzioncusco, no idea02:16
chckencan anyone tell me how to install java on breezy02:16
bimberijon_: no, not the password, the username again02:16
psusiwhich I tried to explain to it with the device commands, but it doesn't seem to listen correctly02:16
LathropWells!java02:17
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb02:17
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theinepsusi, that's what i thought, so why the hell is it looking for something in /dev/mapper?02:17
anathema_!faq02:17
ubotuI heard faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation or http://help.ubuntu.com02:17
chckencan sum1 tell obotu to tell me about java02:17
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psusitheine, because I had to tell it that /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae is the block device for hd002:17
derekh!link02:17
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, derekh02:17
psusiso that it can open the disk and write the MBR02:17
derekh!list02:17
ubotuI guess list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage02:17
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theinepsusi, why did you have to do that??02:17
jon_Alright I typed: sudo chown jon:jon jon and it won't work02:18
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psusiotherwise it would be trying to open /dev/hda02:18
chcken! ubotu tell chcken about java02:18
ubotuchcken: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!02:18
bimberijon_: any error from the command?02:18
theinepsusi, which is not what you want?02:18
anathema_hey i used to be able to apt-get install azureus02:18
anathema_but its not there now02:18
jon_cannot access 'jon': no such file or dictionary02:18
anathema_any ideas why/02:18
psusino...  well, actually I do have a /dev/sda and /dev/sdb... but those are the two individual disks02:18
anathema_the faq says i can do it, along wiht ubuntu wiki02:18
psusiwhich are in a raid-002:18
bimberijon_: type "cd /home" and then try the command again02:18
theinepsusi, so where exactly do you want the mbr to be written then?02:19
Unitionanyone in here hear of anyone buying a compaq r400002:19
chckencan someone please tell ubotu to tell me about java02:19
psusitheine, /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae02:19
Hobbsee!tell chcken about javadeb02:19
Hobbsee!tell chcken about java02:19
chckenty hobs02:19
anathema_!azureus02:19
ubotumethinks azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo02:19
jon_bimberi_: It worked02:19
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theinepsusi, i'm quite sure that's not what you want...02:19
psusiwhich will get routed by the mapper to the first sector of /dev/sda02:19
bimberijon_: great,  now see if you're still having these issues02:19
psusitheine, I'm quite sure that I do, I got lilo working that way ;)02:19
jon_So just exit the terminal?02:20
theinepsusi, what's wrong with writing the mbr to the boot sector of /dev/sda?02:20
bimberijon_: yeah, probably won't need it anymore02:20
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ph4nt0mhi people02:20
bimberijon_: what we did was make sure that everything in your home directory is owned by you02:20
psusitheine, well, for the MBR I guess it doesn't matter... but grub also needs to be able to open the /boot partition to map where the state 2 loader is02:20
jon_Crap, the add to panel error is still comin02:20
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psusiand that is /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae502:20
bimberijon_: :/ - i did have hopes for that02:21
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bimberijon_: i'm back to being stumped again sorry02:21
constantine-xviattempting to install ndis drivers, getting "operation not permitted"02:21
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theinepsusi, right, but you need to write the mbr to /dev/sda, no matter where the boot partition is02:21
jon_bimberi: Now it's saying that GNOME-Panel is exiting unsuspectively..02:21
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psusitheine, which is where it will go... sector 0 of /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae is mapped to sector 0 of /dev/sda02:22
Ceddy23hey guys02:22
constantine-xvineed help installing ndiswrapper drivers02:22
lightstarheya..anyone knows how to play mkv files in ubuntu?02:22
theinepsusi, have you actually tried writing it to /dev/sda?02:22
psusibut for grub to read the /boot partition, it can't just look on /dev/sda or /dev/sdb... it's striped between the two... it has to open /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae502:22
Ceddy23i got a problem with my winmodem drivers, can someone gimme a hand ?02:22
jon_bimberi: let me try relogging in..02:22
Hobbsee!tell constantine-xvi about ndiswrapper02:22
theinepsusi, which it cannot do since it doesn't support device-mapper...02:22
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ubuntuhello guys02:23
psusitheine, can't get it to just write the MBR... it has to place the address of the first sector of the stage 2 loader in it, so it has to map out where that is located at first02:23
Ceddy23i foundd the drivers, it's on my desktop as a .tar file but as of there, i dont know what to do02:23
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psusiit doesn't have to support device mapper... it just opens the block device02:23
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psusithe problem is telling it which is the proper block device it should be opening02:23
jon_bimberi: nope...02:23
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psusithe device command is what you are supposed to use to do that if it fails to guess it correctly02:23
theinepsusi, have you tried saying root /dev/mapper/yadayade inside grub?02:24
psusionly it doesn't quite understand the commands right02:24
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constantine-xvindiswrapper functioning properly, but gives "operation  not permitted" when i do "modprobe ndiswrapper"02:24
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durtsudo modprobe ndiswrapper02:24
nebularwhat does "root device is 93,2) mean when compiling a custom kernel02:24
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psusitheine, yes, when I do that it says the partition table is corrupt... I turned on debug messages and before the error it says it is opening /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5, which is the /boot partition, not the disk itself... so it is looking for the MBR in the boot sector of the /boot partition instead02:24
Ceddy23what's a .tar file ??02:24
constantine-xvidone that02:24
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jon_bimberi: My dads account works fine....WHat if I make another account, can I still use the root password to install programs?02:25
HobbseeCeddy23: an archive, you can untar it02:25
psusitheine, this is because I gave it a device (hd,4) /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 command to tell it to use that block device for the 4th partition on hd002:25
Ceddy23how ??02:25
theinepsusi, if I were you, I would seriously consider having a seperate /boot partition not under lvm202:26
psusibut I also gave it a device (hd0) /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae command to tell it to use that device for access to the raw disk ( for the MBR ) but it isn't listening02:26
constantine-xvitranscript: "@lappy:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"02:26
psusitheine, this isn't LVM...02:26
psusiit's hardware fakeraid02:26
theinepsusi, or raid for that matter02:26
psusino can do02:26
theinepsusi, same thing I guess02:26
nickrudCeddy23, right click the file, and open with the archive manager02:26
psusithe bios raids the entire drive02:26
theinepsusi,  what about "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 /dev/sda02:27
theine"02:27
Ceddy23if they're modem drivers, should i do something special with them ??02:27
nickrudheh02:27
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psusihrm.... let me see...02:27
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nickrudCeddy23, probably, there should be a README file inside02:28
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intelikeycommand to fix broken packages ?02:28
yaomingeverybody tell me  by firefox in linux why i cant open some page which i can open in XP by IE?02:28
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nickrudyaoming, what page?02:28
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psusimkdir: cannot create directory `/dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5/boot': Not a directory02:29
nickrudintelikey, sudo apt-get install -f usually works02:29
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Red-Soxuhoh!02:29
yaomingsome page like yahoo02:29
constantine-xvicant sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"02:29
psusitheine, --root-directory is supposed to be a directory... i.e. /boot02:29
psusiI think02:29
Red-SoxI get this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4333 when I open synaptic and all the packages are selected!02:29
constantine-xviwhat causes this?02:30
nickrudyaoming, I've got a yahoo account, firefox reads it fine02:30
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Ceddy23i tried opening it with archive manager but there's no content in it :s02:30
theinepsusi, then make an appropriate link called "boot" to /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 and specify the parent to the --root-directory option02:30
intelikeywell sudo is not installed.   and a deb has a dep that i don't seem to have installed but i have no info on it....   is there not just a command that will check all installed packages for deps ?02:30
psusitheine, no no... /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 is a block device... /boot is a directory02:30
durtconstantine-xvi: do you have linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` and your kernel headers?02:31
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Red-Soxyoaming: sorry, I just logged in...do you mean f.f. displays it funny?02:31
yaomingnickrud, i think there are some mistake in my network.02:31
Red-Soxanyone?02:31
theinepsusi, of course, so is /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 mounted anywhere?02:31
psusigrub-install's --root-directory option wants a directory, not a block device ( or link to one )02:31
constantine-xvito durt: as in packages?02:31
psusitheine, yes, in /boot02:31
durtyes02:31
nickrudRed-Sox, I'd say try updating the package list first02:31
Red-Soxnickrud: sudo apt-get update?02:31
theinepsusi, ok, the "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/ /dev/sda"02:32
nickrudintelikey, is this deb from outside the ubuntu repositories?02:32
nickrudRed-Sox, yes02:32
intelikeyno02:32
theinepsusi, what does that give you?02:32
Red-Soxokay02:32
psusi/dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.02:32
nickrudintelikey, do you get errors when trying to dpkg -i it02:32
intelikeyyes02:32
theinepsusi, which is true...02:32
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constantine-xviyes02:32
nickrudintelikey, well, we'll need to see them :) pastebin?02:33
psusitheine, well, it is true that grub does not know about it...02:33
psusibut it DOES have a corresponding bios drive02:33
yaomingmy ISP provide a URL to me for a free tv online.i can use it in XP,but i cant02:33
LathropWellsyaoming - i have no trouble with yahoo or even game sites  like boxerjam but, i have installed sun java (ubotu !javadeb will give info) and mozcontrol for flash. check ubuntuguide.org or ubotu !restricted formats02:33
psusiit's just bios disk 0x8002:33
yaomingopen it in linux02:33
Red-Soxnickrud: also, when I log into gnome, it doesnt load the panels all the way, can you help me with this?02:33
Red-SoxNickServ02:33
Red-Soxokay...thats not it02:33
psusito the bios on my system there is no disk 0x81, there is only one big disk 0x8002:33
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intelikeynick "dependancy problem prevents configuration of...."02:33
constantine-xvidurt: yes, i do have those installed, i think i needed those to compile ndiswrapper02:33
theinepsusi, well, I guess in this case it's important what grub thinks02:34
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noahanybody know what the change is that took the hostname out of new ~/.ssh/known_hosts entries?02:34
psusitheine, aye... but grub has a device command where you are supposed to be able to tell it what to think if it guesses wrong02:34
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intelikeynickrub "dependancy problem prevents configuration of...."  so it installed just didn't configure02:34
psusionly it doesn't quite work right02:34
nickrudRed-Sox, maybe, but I'm pretty brutal with bad acting panels, I tend to remove them and rebuild them02:34
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nickrudintelikey, it'll tell you what dependencies it didn't find02:34
intelikeynickrud no it didn't02:35
durtconstantine, make sure you have those restricted modules, otherwise i dont know02:35
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Red-Soxnickrud: then with sudo apt-get update, I get this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/433402:35
duke3zhiya02:35
Red-Soxhi02:35
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the_nightok here is my problem, I decided to install the fglrx binary in order that I could have 3d, now my computer will not display the resolution that I would like it to since this is a widescreen laptop, I used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set the resolutions to what I wanted, but I cannot use the one that I chose02:35
constantine-xvidurt: i do for sure02:35
nickrudah, weird. could I see the whole output? no promises, but I've screwed my system enough times to have seen a lot of errors02:35
theinepsusi, is that --device-map?02:35
psusitheine, yes, you can do it that way too02:35
the_nightthat and whenever it tries to autodetect the monitor it blacks out02:35
sudothisplease help... emergency ........ right now i restarted ubuntu, right at the very beginning of boot, I get "Grub Loading state 1.5." ... then next line it says "Grub loading, please wait...", then it says "error 15" ..... anyone knows how to fix this???? i have so much stuff on that computer which i can't afford to lose.... please help02:36
nickrudRed-Sox, do you have synaptic open?02:36
intelikeyit may be a pakage that is install just not configured yet....   you think ?02:36
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yaomingyesterday i stop my IPV6 ,but i still cant open some page02:36
theinepsusi, and you tried "device /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 /dev/sda" or what?02:36
the_nightanyone have any ideas?02:36
intelikeywhat is that dpkg command to reconfigure all ?02:36
yaomingps:i am in china02:37
nickrudintelikey, as root, did you do apt-get install -f?02:37
theinepsusi, what was /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 mapped onto again?02:37
psusitheine, yes... I gave it two device commands... one for the disk, and one for the partition, like this:02:37
psusidevice (hd0) /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae02:37
intelikeynot apt   dpkg ?02:37
duke3zman i can't understand root on ubuntu yet02:37
psusidevice (hd0,4) /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae502:37
durtconstantine-xvi: are you sure that ndiswrapper.ko exists in that directory?02:37
duke3zis the a good page for that someplace?02:37
intelikeyi'll have to install apt first.02:37
the_nightso no one has any ideas?02:38
constantine-xvihold please02:38
theinepsusi, did it complain?02:38
psusionly when I issue the root (hd0,4) command, it tries to read the MBR from /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae502:38
nickrudintelikey, 0^0 did I read that right?02:38
psusiit only complains once I issue the root command02:38
constantine-xvidurt: most definitley02:38
theinepsusi, i don't understand why the root command even tries to read the mbr, i thought it only looks for configuration and stage files02:38
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the_nightdid anyone read my problem at least?02:39
nickrudRed-Sox, the error I see is either something else is using dpkg, or you have a stale lock. look around for an open apt-get, aptitude or synaptic session, close them, and try updating again02:39
psusitheine, it looks like it also tries to verify the MBR... if I use rootnoverify, it is ok, but then the setup command fails02:39
theinepsusi, ah, ok02:39
intelikeywhat nickrud that sudo and apt are not yet installed..... yes you read it correctly.02:39
nickrudintelikey, you manually installing all the debs or something?02:40
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the_nighthrm I guess no one did...02:40
the_nightlol02:40
nba_anybody knows how to connect to internet in red hat. thanks02:40
intelikeymanual installing some debs yes02:40
the_nightoh well thanks anyways02:40
nickrudthe_night, I did, but I don't have nvidia02:40
psusiwait a tick... hrm...02:40
intelikeydisk space is pretty tight here and i can't afford the bloat of a default server install.02:41
the_nightI dont understand, I am using ati not nvidia02:41
the_nightfglrx is ati02:41
psusisee when I edit devices.map it barfs on the (hd0,4) part... like it doesn't like to be told about partitions, only raw disks02:41
the_nightthe binary for ati02:41
psusiso I tried leaving out the device (hd0,4) command and now it says this:02:41
psusiError 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS02:41
bimberithe_night: perhaps try editing xorg.conf and adding the resolutions manually02:41
the_nightthats what is strange, it is already there... it just wont let me change it in the settings02:42
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the_nightis there a way to change to res in the terminal02:42
Red-Soxnickrud: thanks for actually responding and helping me02:42
bimberithe_night: ah, well at least i read your question :P02:42
the_nightlol thanks02:42
constantine-xvidurt: ndiswrapper.ko is -rw-r--r--, does that matter?02:42
yaomingi cant check ubuntu.org in ubuntu,but i can check it in XP!why??02:42
nickrudintelikey, I'd suggest using debian then, you can stop the install with apt, if I remember correctly02:42
theinepsusi, i'm beginning to doubt whether i'm able to help you with this in any way...02:42
intelikeynickrud nm i got it.02:42
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nickrudRed-Sox, did you get it?02:43
yaomingO_O02:43
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nickrud*at apt, or dselect, anyway, with a tiny install02:43
intelikeynickrud yeah but i don't have a debian cd i do have ub 5.4 cd   so ub it is.02:43
sudothishow can i freaking run ubuntu in diagnostic mode.... i'm getting this Grub error #15 that doesn't let me go anywhere... is there an option to boot from CD and repair? or run linux in diagnostic mode?02:43
nickrudintelikey, do you have a good net?02:43
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intelikey56k02:43
nickrudnm02:43
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Red-Soxnickrud: yes thank you soooooooooooooooooo much02:43
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ali_hi can anyone guide me in which language configuration files are written ?02:44
Red-Soxnow let me try gnome panels02:44
psusisudothis, yea, stick the cd in the drive and boot from it02:44
ali_such as /etc/network/interfaces02:44
ookamiis there a way to retrieve info from the Cache in Mozilla such as JPG's SWF's ?02:44
constantine-xvisudothis: do you have an ubuntu-live/knoppix/slax/etc...?02:44
intelikeynickrud like i said never mind i got it.....   thanks akneeway02:44
ali_how to understand these files what they are doing ?02:44
LathropWellssudothis - just curious was /var/logs  helpful?02:44
sudothispsusi, that will run the installation ....02:44
theineali_, man interfaces02:45
sudothisi want to do it as like Gentoo linux02:45
constantine-xvidurt: ndiswrapper.ko is -rw-r--r--, does that matter?02:45
theineali_, ... would be a start02:45
psusisudothis, there's an option when the cd boots for rescue mode, or you can try the livecd instead02:45
ali_theine, which language they use to write these files ?02:45
theineali_, english02:45
ali_theine, bash ?02:45
ali_theine,  i mean programming language02:45
MarcNookami: Try looking under ~/.mozilla/ to find the cache files.02:46
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psusitheine, is there a way to tell grub to use LBA mode?02:46
psusiit seems to not like the fact that /boot is above the 8 GB mark02:46
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psusibut that's only a problem for CHS mode02:46
theinepsusi, there is a --force-lba option to grub-install02:47
duke3zhas anyone isntalled cedega?02:47
bimberiali_: they're not really in a programming language, they're just formatted in a way that a program can understand when it reads it02:47
theineali_, they used an editor to write these files02:47
intelikeyhhhmm ok got to dl a few things.    be back when that finishes in about an hour.02:47
ali_bimberi, but if i want to write my own ?02:47
MarcNookami: try looking using this:   find ~/.mozilla -name 'Cache'02:47
MarcNcd to the appropriate directory and then try:    file *  to try to figure out what the files are.02:47
ali_bimberi, customized file what should i do ?02:47
theineali_, your own configuration file?02:47
bimberiali_: "man interfaces" (for example) can tell you what format that file needs to be in02:47
ookamiMarcN, i did, but i dont reconize what i see. Example:   ookami@Navi:~/.mozilla/firefox/tc3cyekp.default/Cache$ ls02:47
ookami01CC0844d01  2F38EED5d01  469B990Dd01  8175983Ed01  BF8CFE26d0102:47
sudothishow do you run this freaking thing in rescue mode? i'm at the CD boot: prompt and when i press F1, it says nothing about rescue mode02:48
ali_ok theine , bimberi02:48
ali_takecare02:48
MarcNookami: right, those are your cached html, jpg, etc files.02:48
bimberiali_ k :)02:48
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MarcNThey won't have something.jpg or index.html for names.02:48
ookamiMarcN, is there a graphical way to bring this up? im seeing this in the terminal, but i dont see it in the File Browser.02:49
bimberiookami: nautilus .mozilla02:49
MarcNookami: I don't use the filebrowser.  Beats me.02:50
ookamiThanks Bimberi and MarcN.02:50
theinepsusi, "help setup" inside the grub shell contains some useful information I guess02:50
constantine-xvionce again, can anyone tell me why modprobe is giving me a "operation not permitted" when i try to install ndiswrapper?02:50
theineconstantine-xvi, try "sudo modprobe ..."02:50
constantine-xvii have02:50
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bimberisudothis: rescue mode? there is "recovery mode" but that's part of the installed boot process (ie. no cd needed)02:51
chckenhow do i make the java file executable02:51
constantine-xvii also have the restricted-modules, etc.02:51
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theineconstantine-xvi, really? then maybe "dmesg | tail" tells you something more detailed02:51
chckenhow do i make the java file executable02:52
MarcNookami: you probably have a 'don't show hidden files' set in nautilus.02:52
chckenhow do i make the java file executable02:52
bimberi!repeat02:52
uboturepeat is, like, totally, Don't repeat your question every few minutes- if someone knows they will answer.02:52
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chckensrry02:52
constantine-xvi[4296693.981000]      ACPI-0508: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.BAT1._BST]  (Node dbed7c60), AE_NOT_FOUND02:52
constantine-xvi[4296723.986000]      ACPI-0362: *** Error: Looking up [Z007]  in namespace, AE_NOT_FOUND02:52
constantine-xvi[4296723.986000]  search_node dbed7d60 start_node dbed7d60 return_node 0000000002:52
constantine-xvi[4296723.986000]      ACPI-0508: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.BAT1._BST]  (Node dbed7c60), AE_NOT_FOUND02:52
constantine-xvi[4296753.990000]      ACPI-0362: *** Error: Looking up [Z007]  in namespace, AE_NOT_FOUND02:52
constantine-xvi[4296753.990000]  search_node dbed7d60 start_node dbed7d60 return_node 0000000002:52
constantine-xvi[4296753.990000]      ACPI-0508: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.BAT1._BST]  (Node dbed7c60), AE_NOT_FOUND02:52
constantine-xvi[4296783.995000]      ACPI-0362: *** Error: Looking up [Z007]  in namespace, AE_NOT_FOUND02:52
constantine-xvi[4296783.995000]  search_node dbed7d60 start_node dbed7d60 return_node 0000000002:52
constantine-xvi[4296783.996000]      ACPI-0508: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.BAT1._BST]  (Node dbed7c60), AE_NOT_FOUND02:52
theineDOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:52
Wellyeasy, constantine-xvi!02:52
gord_try right clicking the java file chcken and set its permitions there02:52
Ep|phanyhey can someone tell me how to install games with cebenga02:52
nickruddumvid, de de dum, de dum.02:52
bimberi!paste02:52
ubotuit has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text02:52
Ep|phanyi mean cedega02:52
chckengord_ok ty ill try02:52
constantine-xvii apoligize02:53
theineconstantine-xvi, that was "dmesg | tail"?? quite a few lines from that tail command...02:53
duke3zi was asking about cedega02:53
constantine-xvicorrect02:53
duke3zcan't get it to install02:53
gord_put the game cd in the drive epiphany and type cedega <install file.exe>, so like 'cedega /media/cdrom/setup.exe"02:53
Wellyhey all, trying to install fastcgi and am getting this - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/433502:53
nickrudyup 10 lines :)02:53
melodramatichi im running into a problem with ubuntu... i got an usb mp3 player.. first run went find accessing it... then i removed it to test the mp3 i put on it wanted to make change so i put it back in the usb plug.. then when i try to access it i get the following error (giving UDI is not a mountable device)02:54
ookamigot it ! thanks everyone02:54
constantine-xviam i totally screwed over?02:54
theinehmm, i was sure tail -n defaults to 5...02:54
theinebut obviously i'm wrong02:55
psusiAHA!02:55
psusihad to tell grub the right geometry with the geometry command02:55
psusinow it sees partitions!02:55
kbrosnanI am looking for a set of directions to boot ubuntu from a floppy02:55
theineconstantine-xvi, I never seen the error message you're getting when having root priviliges02:55
chckengord_: ok i did that how should i go about installing it now02:56
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gord_are you trying to install java itself?02:56
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constantine-xvitheine: i'll re-run it to be sure, this time in #flood02:56
chckenya i need to install java02:56
melodramaticdo i need to completly reinstall ubuntu?02:57
psusitheine, ok... setup says it worked02:57
theineconstantine-xvi, ok, shoot02:57
gord_http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76702 will guide you through installing java02:57
constantine-xvitheine: in #flood02:57
theinepsusi, nice02:57
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psusitheine, so now the stage 1 and 2 loaders should be set up right?  don't I need to edit my menu config now or something?02:57
chckenty i will try that02:57
theineconstantine-xvi, show me the modprobe message including the command02:58
bimberiWelly: you need to enable the multiverse repository02:58
Wellybimberi: yep.. just done that now.. thanks!02:58
bimberiWellark: k :)02:58
theinepsusi, better take a look at menu.lst and check whether everything seems fine...02:58
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constantine-xvitheine: have posted in #flood02:58
psusihrm... menu.lst should be in /boot/grub right?02:59
Nihil85hallo02:59
theinepsusi, yes02:59
walterguys, having problem booting X. says screens not found02:59
walter=002:59
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psusiit's not there ;)02:59
theineconstantine-xvi, how did you install ndiswrapper?02:59
Melissa83walter: You're going to have issues with it. Also make sure you're using a 64 build of ubuntu.02:59
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=== Melissa83 has been having same issues with the Turion64/Ati X 200M
walteri am02:59
Melissa83it's an issue w/ ATI chipsets03:00
theinepsusi, try update-grub03:00
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Melissa83walter: What worked for me was using the VESA drivers03:00
constantine-xvicompile, as shown on the ubuntu wiki03:00
waltervesa freezes me03:00
theinepsusi, it generates one for you03:00
Melissa83walter: Plus my laptop is EXTREMELY sensitive as to screen resolution. Also, I'm told that the CVS of Xorg supports the ati chipsets, so i'm working on getting those.03:00
waltervga doesnt work either03:00
constantine-xvitheine: compile, as shown on the ubuntu wiki03:00
psusikick ass03:00
Inv_arpjust added xfce4, how do i make it default desktop?03:00
walterive also tried lowest possible reso etc03:00
walternothing works03:00
walteri am afraid i might just use another distro heh03:00
theineconstantine-xvi, isn't ndiswrapper included in the restircted-modules package?03:00
walterothers work fine03:00
Melissa83walter: lowest possible res does not necessarly mean it's a good choice03:00
walterwell03:00
Melissa83walter: i HAVE to use 1280x768 NOTHING else works03:00
psusiok... now ot add the magic kernel command line parameters03:01
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walterive used just about every reso my monitor can handle03:01
Melissa83walter: Also, try getting the latest CVS from xorg03:01
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theineconstantine-xvi, it fails because something went wrong during the compilation03:01
Melissa83Supposedly it works ootb03:01
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xbox_skyHi guys! sorry I just started to use ubuntu (like today) Im trying to get those w32 codecs, I've tried to do it trough synaptic (nothing on search except mime32) and nothing on the terminal either, im I doing something wrong ( remember im NEW)03:01
Melissa83walter: There are NO other distros that will work. SuSe doesn't work, Fedora doesn't work, NONE of them do03:01
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seth_k|lappyxbox_sky, you'll need to add repositories from the PLF03:02
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seth_k|lappyxbox_sky, you know how to add repos?03:02
walteractually, i installed mepis and it worked fine. so did gentoo03:02
xbox_skyseth, i've already done that03:02
walter=003:02
xbox_skyseth, yup03:02
yahyaxbox_sky: it's not there in the official repos03:02
Melissa83walter: It's because of the ATI chipset. You could try grabbing the ATI proprietary driver from ati's website03:02
seth_k|lappyoh, good. That's all you need then03:02
seth_k|lappythen just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install w32codecs03:02
seth_k|lappy@ xbox_sky03:02
Melissa83walter: really? interesting. I was told X won't work with the ati junk (course that may just be my specific chipset)03:02
theineconstantine-xvi, nevermind, i see there are appearently good reasons for compiling ndiswrapper under ubuntu...03:02
xbox_skyhold on m803:02
walterthe thing that gets me03:02
walteris on other distros, the same drivers i pick in ubuntu03:03
walterwill work03:03
psusihrm.. ok, menu.lst looks alright... wish me luck03:03
walterodd03:03
gord_iv got a rather old ati card n x has allways worked fine for me. they put the rage chips (what i use) in everythin too03:03
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_Dezeveyone ever install fluxbox?03:03
PhuzionWhat is the command to rename a directory?03:03
mustard5ubotu: tell xbox_sky about w32codecs03:03
_Dez!fluxbox03:03
ubotuhmm... fluxbox is forked off blackbox and is found at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net, or the new blackbox, with antialias, better menu, etc.03:03
Melissa83gord_: I'm using the XPress 200M chipset. One of ATI's newest, it doesn't work03:03
bimberiPhuzion: mv03:04
gord_Phuzion: mv <old directory name> <new directory name>03:04
PhuzionNo preceding /?03:04
gord_oh yea, new ati chipsets are an arse -_-03:04
seth_k|lappyPhuzion, it's implied03:04
gord_not unless you want to move it somewhere else03:04
PhuzionAlright, sweet, thanks.03:04
seth_k|lappyoh preceding03:04
walterwhy is it that my card has no problem in any other distros? even debian based03:04
waltermakes no sense03:04
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nickrudwalter, you might try filing a bug, and possibly the problem could be tracked down03:05
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walterok03:06
walteri might take that route03:06
chckengord_it said to do fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin and then it said fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin03:06
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Inv_arphow does one change the default window manager?03:06
mustard5walter, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com just for your future reference if you need it :)03:06
nickrudheh03:06
xbox_skyLathropWells,Mustard5 and seth_k|lappy Thanks a lot guys for your help :)03:07
chckengord_: it said to do fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin and then it said fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin03:07
mustard5xbox_sky, np03:07
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LathropWellsWindows users "linux community" - ;)03:07
gord_how do you meen 'said'?03:07
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blankhey guys03:08
chckengord_: when i typed that in terminal it said fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin command not found03:08
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blankI just got a new drive for ubuntu (40 gigs)03:08
blankand I have another 40 gigs03:08
wimirc://irc.101-freedom.org/03:08
blankI've already set them up right03:08
gord_you will need to add the extra repositorys chcken03:08
blankbut I'd like to install ubuntu on the second03:08
chckengord_: how do i do that03:08
blankwill the installation be the same?03:09
mustard5ubotu: tell chicken about repos03:09
gord_open up synaptic and goto the repositorys menu, click edit or settings or something like that and press the 'show disbaled sources' or somethin bout that03:09
bimberiInv_arp: sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager03:09
blankmustard5: you forgot the ! in the front03:09
gord_then just press ok and check the boxes that have magically apeared03:09
escaniohi, how i can recover from a mbr crash in a dual installation?03:09
blank:)03:09
escanioLILO/GRUB?03:09
mustard5blank it worked :)03:09
duke3zdang it, i got to root in console and now cannot install cedega.  man thier instructions kinda stink.03:09
gord_you'll need to do "sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common" again03:09
blanko :D03:09
mustard5blank, it went to him as a PM03:09
mustard5blank, assuming he is registered03:10
edoardohi gals, hi dudes : )03:10
mustard5welcome edoardo03:10
bimberimustard5: nick typo tho (no i)03:10
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edoardoyou guys, i'm the author of an audio conversion script named audio-convert. you might have read about it in the ubuntu forums. anyway, it's becomin' really popular lately. would anyone help me make a .deb? it's two files only, so it's probably not that hard. anyone? thankyou! : )03:10
Nihil85hi guys, at this moment i have a lot of problems:i cannot run properly the "desktop bar" (the bar with the button view desktop, the list of programs running, etc), it refuses to start! I've also a lot of other problems, but mainly i wanted to solve this because now i cannot run two apps at the same time03:10
mustard5bimberi,03:10
mustard5bimberi, doh03:10
mustard5ubotu: tell chcken about repos03:10
mustard5;)03:11
chckengord_: is it the one in packages that says repositories03:11
MarcNanyone using amarok in dapper?  I tell it to 'Build Collection', but never seems to do it.03:11
bimberimustard5: it's got me before too :)03:11
Razor-Xedoardo: hmmm, what can the script do?03:11
chckenhey yall g2g watch suvivor yaya03:11
Razor-Xedoardo: I do all my audio conversion by hand, so that script sounds interesting03:12
nickrudedoardo, the guys to ask about that are in #ubuntu-motu03:12
mustard5chcken, cya03:12
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edoardonickrud, thankyou dude! : )03:12
nickrudor Razor-X :)03:12
Razor-X:P03:12
MarcNchcken: survivor just ended here.  Wanna know who leaves? ;-)03:12
Inv_arpbimberi: thx03:12
Razor-XOMG, don't tell me... it's... Anakin Skywalker!03:12
LathropWellsedoardo -i would look in debian.org or the linux documentation project. tldp.org03:12
bimberiInv_arp: np :)03:12
edoardoRazor-X, here's the link: http://freshmeat.net/projects/audio-convert03:12
gord_edoardo: does your script do a lot of files at once? iv been meening to convert my mp3 collection to ogg for a long time but have been put off because the only auto things i can find don't copy over the ide info03:12
Razor-X``I'm sorry to say Mr. Vader, but you've been kicked off the island''03:13
Nihil85hi guys, at this moment i have a lot of problems:i cannot run properly the "desktop bar" (the bar with the button view desktop, the list of programs running, etc), it refuses to start! I've also a lot of other problems, but mainly i wanted to solve this because now i cannot run two apps at the same time03:13
Razor-Xgirl in squeaky voice: ``I hated the way he choked me after I professed my love for him''03:13
LathropWellsgord_ isn't there a dir2ogg script?03:13
edoardogord_, it does that, very easily. it even copies the metatags on to the new files. follow the link and you'll find out! : )03:13
Razor-Xsorry, couldn't resist, getting back on topic :)03:13
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jvailol03:13
dreadnoughtsomeone help me with downloading a java client03:13
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dreadnoughti no03:14
psusiwoohoo, got it working!03:14
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Razor-Xuggghh, there's another problem03:14
mhzhi03:14
gord_iv no idea mr LathropWells, if i did id i wouldn't have a load of mp3s ;)03:14
Razor-Xhow would you get rxvt to copy to clipboard?03:14
psusiI actually didn't have the menu.lst quite right... it forgot about the initrd, and set the root device wrong03:14
LathropWellsbadcomputer.no-ip.com/linux/dir2ogg/dir2ogg.bot - <-- this is what i remember.03:14
Razor-Xgord_: look at a few basic shell scripting tutorials and you've got yourself a script03:14
psusibut that's awesome that grub lets you edit the config during boot to fix that03:15
mhzSuddenly, my app. fonts look much bigger than they used to, on my laptop. Any ideas why?03:15
jvaijava + ubuntu not probable03:15
Razor-XI have a script I use to convert all my FLACs to WAV in a similar fashion03:15
Melissa83how do i boot straight to console mode?03:15
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mustard5Nihil85, have your gnome applets gone too?03:15
dreadnoughtbob2: u on?03:15
mc|ambcould anyone correct this for me please::  sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xconf03:15
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=== Melissa83 blinks at Razor-X
LathropWellsdir2ogg.py03:15
Razor-Xdo I need xsel or xclip for rxvt to interface with the clipboard? :(03:15
edoardowell audio-convert is pretty cool. and it looks cool. and it does its job well and fast. *with* progress bars : )03:15
meatwad65dpkg-reconfigure03:15
Razor-XMelissa83: hmmm?03:15
dreadnoughtcould some one give me the java link please03:15
bimberiubotu tell dreadnought about java03:15
gord_i would Razor-x, but looking at shell scripting (what is it like modifyed perl?) after using python for so long is like poking myself in the eye with rusty forks03:15
Nihil85mustard5, gnome applets? i have "only" lost my desktop bar, but i don't know what are the gnome applets03:16
Inv_arpbimberi: i added xfce4 but i dont see it in the selection03:16
dreadnoughtthanks03:16
Inv_arpfor update-alternatives --config x-window-manager03:16
Razor-Xgord_: I've never used perl, and it doesen't take much to learn03:16
cuscocd irssi03:16
Razor-Xif you use xSH often, that is03:16
dreadnoughtmaybe it will work this time03:16
meatwad65i never used perl03:16
LathropWellsedoardo - sounds good. -progrees bars are handy if you are converting dozens of files03:16
meatwad65last job learned most of it in 2 days03:16
nickrudMelissa83, delete S13gdm in /etc/rc2.d03:16
PhuzionHow do I get a directory password protected by Apache?03:16
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gord_don't take much time to learn howto poke yourself int he eye with rusty forks, don't meen you should do it though ;)03:16
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mustard5Nihil85, well I'm not sure what it is you are describing, but I'm thinking you are talking about the bottom bar on your deskto that shows which apps are in the current workspace03:17
nickrudMelissa83, or better yet, rename it to K13gdm, so you can put it back when you want03:17
meatwad65i learn languages on necessity03:17
Nihil85mustard5, yes03:17
Razor-Xgord_: I use pretty much the same syntax, it took me a bit of googling to learn the bits of shell scripting I need03:17
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mhzmc|amb: dpkg-reconfigure03:17
Razor-Xlike when I wanted to craft a script to automaticall save screenshots to a specified filename03:17
dreadnoughtwill someone walk me through it?03:17
LathropWellsgord_ - are you familiar with zenity - add nicely drawn dialog boxes to any script.03:17
Razor-X*automatically03:17
bimberiInv_arp: xfce may not be considered to be a "window manager" (although i get confused about those things).  See if it is in the Session menu of your login screen03:17
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_Dezdoes ubuntu have gkrellm03:17
dreadnoughti cant seem to find it in synaptic03:17
Inv_arpbimberi: k03:17
mustard5Nihil85, I believe its an applet called 'window list'03:18
Nihil85mustard5, but this is not the only problem... i'm going mad, i have an half dozen of problems03:18
mc|ambmhz, thanks03:18
mhznp03:18
mustard5Nihil85, do you have a bottom bar, but now apps show on the bottom bar?03:18
gord_its the actual code not the result that puts me off shell scripting, python is very powerfull too so i just use that when i need to03:18
Nihil85mustard5, so i have to run a terminal and load window list?03:18
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mustard5Nihil85, no, you right click on the bottom bar in an empty spot somewhere and 'add applet'03:19
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meatwad65anyone know how to get audio previews in nautilus to work?03:19
mustard5Nihil85, look for 'window list'03:19
Nihil85mustard5, yes. i have lost the "desktop button" (the button to show desktop) and even if i chrge an app, it doesn't show in the bar03:19
dreadnoughtuh how do you do it?03:19
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meatwad65wine...i haven't used that in years03:20
mustard5Nihil85, I'm thinking that your gnome-applets are not working or the settings have gone wacky for some reason03:20
Razor-Xmeatwad65: I hear it's making leaps and bounds recently03:20
mustard5Nihil85, try what I suggested above anyway and tell me if it works03:20
dreadnoughtwhere is the Blackdown Java 1.4 installer03:20
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Nihil85mustard5, i cannt find window list in the session manager03:20
dabaRhow do I run something in a terminal, and then make it not close when I close the terminal?03:20
Razor-Xhmmm, anyone here use xclip or xsel?03:20
Nihil85*system manager03:20
mustard5Nihil85, I didnt say sessin manager :)03:21
nickruddabaR, disown03:21
Razor-XdabaR: foo &03:21
wickedpuppydabaR, &03:21
Razor-Xwhere foo is the name of a program03:21
mustard5Nihil85, no, you right click on the bottom bar in an empty spot somewhere and 'add applet'03:21
dabaRnope, that dies with the terminal. Answer: nohup appname&03:21
gord_meatwad65: it recently finally got its 'beta' status so i thought id give it another whirl03:21
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mustard5Nihil85, 'add to panel' is the option soz03:21
dreadnoughtwowo comeon guys03:21
nickrudhm, I disown gedit all the time :)03:22
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dabaR& is just run in background.03:22
Razor-XdabaR: yeah, exactly03:22
ptlodabaR, nohup something &03:22
Nihil85mustard5, eheheh: what's its name in italian? there's no window list and no near meanings03:22
Razor-Xi'ld help you better if you ran ZSH, but, I can't soo...03:22
dabaRnohup means dont hang up the program when I close the terminal.03:22
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meatwad65gord: i heard the same thing03:22
ptlooh, you've already answered that, sorry :/03:22
mustard5Nihil85, hehe..hmmmm..I don't know in italian :)03:22
meatwad65i just don't have much use anymore because not many apps i need03:22
dreadnoughtany admin free to help me?03:22
Nihil85mustard5, me too!03:22
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meatwad65used to be all the apps i loved were windows only03:23
dabaRdreadnought: for what?03:23
dreadnoughtdownloading damn java again03:23
dreadnoughtbtw im mgdam03:23
dabaRdreadnought: and what is "admin" mean?03:23
meatwad65i actually wish i could have amarok on windows compared to itunes03:23
dreadnoughtdiff name03:23
dabaRhi mgdam:)03:23
wickedpuppydreadnought, blackdown is in repos ...03:23
dreadnoughthi03:23
Melissa83heya mustard5! ^_^ Would you believe that i totally hosed X again last night?03:23
dabaRI installed java on your computer before:)03:23
dreadnoughthuh03:24
gord_yea i know, but i have a loooot of games sitting on my shelf that iv not played in years for not using windows ;)03:24
dreadnoughtstillll????03:24
meatwad65i don't think wine fixes taht03:24
dabaRstill what?03:24
mustard5Melissa83, I can believe that :)  I am good at busting my box too ;)03:24
meatwad65you need cedega03:24
mustard5Melissa83, did you try installing ati?03:24
meatwad65or formerly winex03:24
Melissa83mustard5: Installing ATI is what hosed it, even after reloading back-ed up config it was shot03:24
dabaRdreadnought: what did you do so far, have you gotten the .deb file yet?03:24
gord_depends, its really come on latly. directX apis are being impliemtned a bit now03:25
Nihil85mustard5, ok, i've found it. the meaning is another... i had to try every apps!!!03:25
dreadnoughtdabaR: administration duh03:25
gord_n if the game is opengl then your pritty much set03:25
Melissa83mustard5: Finally got it up again, and changed something (think i was messing with network settings), and X was hosed again03:25
dreadnoughtuh i got to the site ubotu got me to03:25
meatwad65oh cool gord03:25
dabaRdreadnought: ya, but what do you need an administration person for installing Java...03:25
meatwad65directx is so evil :(03:25
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mustard5Melissa83, yeah ati can be a bit of a headache.  I believe that is why nalioth was trying to encourage you to use VESA instead :)03:25
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dabaRdreadnought: show me the output of cat /etc/issue03:25
Melissa83so i went through the install again, figured i would start fresh since i at least knew how to get X up again, but for some reason the isntall was hosed. Then i get home from work, and it works *boggle*03:25
meatwad65i just wish there was a decent cross platform api03:25
dreadnoughttheyre ususally were prolific in linux03:25
gord_specially what its doing to opengl in vista...03:25
dreadnoughtan=d they help03:25
Nihil85mustard5, the name I gave to the desktop area are lost. why?!?!?03:25
meatwad65yeah opengl is gonna be dead03:25
mustard5Nihil85, good work :)03:25
yahyahow can I get a list of all packages from a particular repository?03:26
meatwad65all the vid cards are driven by directx more so than opengl now03:26
mustard5Nihil85, your workspace switcher probably got reset too, its an applet as well03:26
gord_allthough if they keep it up, i can hardly see the european courts standing for it.. the american ones might let it side though which is just as bad03:26
dabaRyahya: what repository? look in synaptic...03:26
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meatwad65i had to buy a new vid card just to play battlefield 203:26
dreadnoughtdabaR?03:26
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meatwad65but if it was opengl i could have played it at least03:26
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dabaRdreadnought: open a terminal, and type: cat /etc/issue, and tell me what that told you.03:26
meatwad65pixelshaders are just bad imo03:27
yahyadabaR: I just added a new repos.. I'm just curious and want to browse what's avilable there03:27
mustard5Nihil85, did you uninstall gnome-applets at some stage?03:27
dreadnoughtokkkkkkkk03:27
gord_nah, opengl is a specification so the card makers make their own drivers. much more preferable than hoping that there will be an ok directx implientattion03:27
Nihil85mustard5, no, i haven't03:27
gord_pixelshaders rock until you realise that your card can't do them -_-03:27
dabaRyahya: its a http site, maybe you can browse it on the web somewhere. What repository? is it a ubuntu one?03:27
meatwad65at least with opengl we have a shot at having gamlees playab03:27
meatwad65*playable03:28
meatwad65my laptop keyboard keeps messing up03:28
yahyadabaR:  no it's the PLF one, i couldnt' find a list on their site03:28
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gord_sticky keys? i ain't sayin nothin...03:28
dreadnoughti have hoary but here u go  mgdam@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/issue03:28
dreadnoughtUbuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l03:28
dreadnoughtmgdam@ubuntu:~$03:28
dabaRyahya: just enable only that repo, and reload your package list.03:28
wickedpuppymeatwad65, gord_ guys this chan is for ubuntu support ... pls go to #ubuntu-offtopic03:28
meatwad65oops03:28
dabaRdreadnought: no need to paste more than one line of that. Also, if you paste more than one line, please use the paste.ubuntulinux.nl site.03:29
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gord_sorry :) mistake03:29
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dabaRdreadnought: ok, thanks. now read what ubotu tells you, and get a java file from there.03:29
dreadnoughtwow ur a sweet kid ya know03:29
duke3zcould some please send me a link to using sudo to install cedega 5.0?03:29
yahyadabaR: yeah i guess.. I was hoping there might be a more elegant command or something :P03:29
wickedpuppyduke3z, you bought cedega ?03:29
duke3zya03:29
Toma-duke3z: is it the tar ball?03:29
wickedpuppyduke3z, call transgaming for support ?03:29
duke3zno .deb03:29
duke3znot yet03:30
meatwad65can't you just do sudo dpkg -i file.deb?03:30
wickedpuppywhy not do so now ?03:30
Toma-duke3z: sudo dpkg -i cedega.blah.deb03:30
dreadnoughthow do i get the blackdown thing03:30
duke3zthank you Toma03:30
BeGuduke3z, how much did cedega cost?03:30
wickedpuppynext we be supporting for MS Office ....03:30
duke3z5 bucks a month03:30
BeGuwell that's not much03:31
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meatwad65i used to pay for winex03:31
Inv_arpbimberi: ok just learned that xfwm4  (was in the listing) is actually xfce4,   xfce4 is the environment, xfwm4 is the wm for the xfce4 environment...  thx for your help03:31
dabaRdreadnought: get the one for hoary, please.03:31
duke3zand thankjs meatwad03:31
Razor-Xewww, xfwm03:31
dreadnoughtdabaR: HOW?03:31
Razor-Xthat sounds so much like xfvwm03:31
Razor-Xthat's name hell for ya03:32
meatwad65no problem duke3z good luck with cedega03:32
dabaRdreadnought: ubotu told you, read you rprivate messages.03:32
Razor-Xerrr, fvwm, mind you03:32
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dreadnoughtlast time i did this it was down03:32
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dreadnoughtand it still is03:32
GarrettGood evening.03:32
wickedpuppydreadnought, what was down ?03:32
bimberiInv_arp: np, thanks feeding back -> into personal knowledgebase :)03:33
Toma-cedega 5.0 looks pretty nice. almost nice enough to buy03:33
dreadnoughtthe link u always give me\03:33
meatwad65does anyone know what could cause my notebook keyboard to mess up?03:33
duke3zomg thanks so much it worked guys03:33
wickedpuppydreadnought, the link is down? what link .... paste here03:33
BeGuis there going to be any problems with those SonyBMG's albums for ubuntu users?03:33
GarrettHave a GRUB/dual booting question for anyone that could help me.03:33
meatwad65it keeps either switching windows or going back in the sentence i'm typing and it messes everything up03:34
dabaRwickedpuppy: he wants to install java.03:34
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Razor-XGarrett: shoot03:34
meatwad65like i'll be typing and it will just move the cursor somehow03:34
MarcNBeGu: I seriously doubt it.03:34
gord_the breezy customisation guide is down, maybe he meens that03:34
wickedpuppydabaR, i know .. and i wanna know which link is down ... since all the links he got are from the bot03:34
Razor-XGarrett: I like to think of myself experienced with GRUB, only because I have most of the GRUB manual committed to memory :)03:34
dabaRwickedpuppy: !javadebs links are down.03:35
dreadnoughtpaste what the link?03:35
GarrettUbuntu is on IDE (hda1), Windows is on SATA (sda1).03:35
MarcNBeGu: a coworker had some 'unrippable CD' -- grip had no problem making some mp3s for him.03:35
dreadnoughtdabaR: http://giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/03:35
GarrettGRUB is only showing Ubuntu, so I'm trying to add Windoze to my menu.lst file.03:35
wickedpuppyas i said ... blackdown is in repo! if he wants blackdown ... just use synaptic03:35
Razor-XGarrett: I see03:35
Garrett...and failing horribly.03:35
psusithis is the first time I've ever used grub, but I'm stoked as hell because I got it working on my sata fakeraid0 and it's awesome03:35
jvaibye a thinkpad03:35
GarrettThe Windows portion of menu.lst reads as follows:03:36
Garretttitle Windows03:36
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yahya meatwad65: are you sure it's not your touchpad?03:36
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wickedpuppyGarrett, do not paste here03:36
meatwad65no i'm not sure03:36
wickedpuppyGarrett, pastebin pls03:36
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yahyameatwad65: you might be clicking it accidentally03:36
Razor-X!pastebin03:36
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:36
meatwad65i'll turn it off while i'm typing i guess...you think there is some tap enabled in linux? or something03:36
dreadnoughtdabaR: wat u got for me?03:37
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meatwad65its weird i never did that in windows but the linux drivers might have different functionality03:37
bimberiwickedpuppy, dabaR, dreadnought: i've checked on packages.ubuntu.com and blackdown java is only available for warty, breezy and dapper - go figure!03:37
yahyameatwad65: yeah, tap is enabled on my laptop03:37
GarrettGet that, Razor-X?03:37
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meatwad65yeah what is the point of tap really?03:37
_Dezhow do i delete DRivers??03:37
Garrett!pastebin03:37
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:37
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dabaRdreadnought: my head hurts, i dont feel like it.03:38
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MarcN_Dez: what are you really trying to do?03:38
dabaRwickedpuppy: if you can explain it step by step to dreadnought or send him a good wiki page, go ahead03:38
icemanAnyone able to help me learn about setting a web server in linux03:38
dreadnoughtdabaR: aughhhh linux is pissin me off damn windows bluescreenin on me!03:39
dreadnoughthey wikedpupyy go for it!03:39
jvailinux blue screens??? whaaaaa!03:39
thrushiceman: apt-get install apache03:39
Garretthttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4336 I guess.03:39
dabaRiceman: learn what? it ir really only an installation, in one line03:39
MarcNiceman: apt-get install apache2 apache2-doc03:39
_DezMarcN im trying to remove fan.ko | thermal.ko03:39
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icemanhow to configure apache and how to set up sharing on a windows box03:40
MarcN_Dez: to remove them from use, sudo rmmod fan ; sudo rmmod thermal03:40
dreadnoughtnot linux my hdd is 66% windows and 33% linux and my windows bluescreened03:40
thrushiceman: best bet might be to look at wiki.ubuntu.com03:40
MarcN_Dez: you man need to remove modules that depend upon them first.03:40
icemangot apach installed, but windows cant see the linux box03:40
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icemanis the a vnc program for linux and Windows ?03:40
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MarcNiceman: first check to see if the windows box can ping the linux box.  then try to telnet to port 8003:41
_DezMarcN how do i do that03:41
MarcNiceman: there are vncserver and vncviewer for windows and for linux.03:41
dabaRiceman: see it how? can you ping from one machine to the other, are both on the internet?03:41
icemanIs there a way to VNC between Linux and Windows03:41
Ep|phanyi have these keys that are supposed to adjust  my volume on my laptop is there anyway to enable them on linux?03:41
GarrettDid Razor-X fall off the face of the Inter-web?03:41
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dreadnoughtwhere r u wickedpuppy?03:41
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icemanboth are on the net same ip03:41
Razor-XGarrett: no, i'm just a bit busy03:42
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dabaRGarrett: no he was here a sec ago03:42
Razor-Xand your link doesen't work, 's all03:42
MarcN_Dez: do sudo rmmod thermal   complain?  if so it will say what depends on it.03:42
GarrettRazor-X, no problem.03:42
dabaRiceman: do you use a router?03:42
rain`If I get a lot of "[4303450.849000]  scsi7 (0:0): rejecting I/O to dead device" and "[4303450.849000]  FAT: Directory bread(block 47) failed" does that mean I have a bad dvd on my hands?03:42
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GarrettdabaR, thanks. :)03:42
MarcNiceman: two systems can't have the same ip at the same time.03:42
dabaRMarcN: :)03:42
dreadnoughttheyt can but there will be conflicts03:43
dabaRMarcN: on the *I*nternet03:43
yahyaEp|phany: yeah, go to Preferences->keyboard shortcuts03:43
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Razor-XGarrett: here, i'm back03:44
icemandabaR ok, i can run VNC from a wine install, and see the windows system, but windows cant find the linux vnc03:44
dreadnoughtwow dabar wheres ur wicked friend?03:44
dabaRdreadnought: what wicked friend?03:44
Garretthttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4336 if you didn't recieve the direct message.03:44
melodramatici have a 30gig hd wich partition should i choose to install ubuntu03:44
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Ep|phanyyaha is there any way to make so two keys combined do it03:44
melodramatichow should i partition it03:44
dabaRmelodramatic: make a 10 gig partition for / and 20 for /home03:44
MarcNiceman: from windows,    vncviewer ip-of-linuxbox:1      vncserver on linux creates a virtual monitor that you connect to.03:44
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melodramaticok all ext2?03:45
Razor-XGarrett: I can see it pretty obviously, I think03:45
dabaRext303:45
dreadnoughtdabaR: u referred me to wickedpuppy where is he03:45
Razor-XGarrett: where's Windows located at, again?03:45
melodramaticok03:45
MarcNiceman: vncserver on windows displays what is on the real monitor, vncserver on unix-like systems don't grab the monitor's image. There is a way, but not vncserver.03:45
Garrettsda1.03:45
_DezMarcN i get ERROR: MOdule fan does not exist in /proc/modules | module thermal does not exist in /proc/modules03:45
dabaRdreadnought: he maybe left, and maybe he does not like helping people that do not help theselves, or a third option...03:46
dabaRdreadnought: read the wiki for java, try that03:46
icemanwhere can i get vncserver for linux and windows03:46
MarcN_Dez: use:    sudo lsmod   to get a list of what is currently loaded03:46
Ep|phanyis there anyway i can find a keyboard model for my gateway laptop03:46
icemanand the viewer03:46
icemanfor both03:46
Ep|phanybecause i have this 1 button i want to use but its not working03:46
dreadnoughti dont help my self im a networkng expert im just not good with linux03:46
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MarcNiceman: apt-cache search vncl03:47
Razor-XGarrett: different drives, I presume?03:47
dabaRdreadnought: good. Im just a litle headachish tonight, dont worry.03:47
icemanand for windows box ?03:47
dreadnoughtdabaR: i asked u hav to get black down and u referred me to the dead page remember03:47
GarrettYes. Ubuntu is on IDE (hda)03:47
GarrettI also have another IDE drive, (hdb) with just storage.03:47
dabaRdreadnought: /j #dabaR if you want.03:48
Razor-XGarrett: try this03:48
dreadnoughtok03:48
Razor-XGarrett: underneath the title line03:48
Razor-XGarrett: add two lines03:49
Razor-Xfirst line:03:49
icemanwhat about vnc for windows03:49
Razor-X``map (hd0) (hd1)''03:49
MarcNiceman: google vnc03:49
Razor-X``map (hd1) (hd0)''03:49
_native_Razor-X: yo03:49
icemanbut will the two be compatable03:49
Razor-Xthe rest should work out fine03:49
Razor-X_native_: hey03:49
Razor-Xiceman: they use the same protocol, so yes, they're compatible03:50
icemanwhat about this ?03:50
icemanTightVNC03:50
MarcNiceman: all the same protocol.03:50
icemanhttp://www.tightvnc.org/download.html03:50
GarrettRazor-X: Will try, thanks.03:50
MarcNiceman: tightvnc, realvnc, vnc, all interoperate.03:50
Razor-Xiceman: TightVNC is the same thing as VNC but with a bit better compression03:50
_DezMarcN its not loaded b/c it wont load on boot03:50
GarrettRazor-X: Do I need to change rootnoverify (hd1,0) to (hd0,0)?03:51
MarcN_Dez: i thought you wanted to remove a driver module.03:51
Razor-Xiceman: it interoperates with other VNCs, but in order to use the compressed form, server and client need to be tightvnc03:51
icemanjust wanting the vnc part, and the how to set up apache ... and a mail server03:51
Razor-XGarrett: nope03:51
Razor-Xiceman: a mail server... oooh03:51
GarrettRazor-X: Mmkay, be back shortly.03:51
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rain`Anyone know of a better mdf image converter than mdf2iso? when I try to use mdf2iso, it says "File too large" ....03:51
Razor-Xiceman: MTAs scare me, because they have such crappy documentation03:52
Razor-Xrain`: you may try and emulate a Windows converter in WINE03:52
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Razor-XMDF is a proprietary format (if i'm not mistaken), so I wouldn't find much headway on it03:52
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R0bNycwhats the latest kernel ?03:53
Razor-XR0bNyc: www.kernel.org buddy :)03:53
DrKriticalDoes anyone know of any documentation for setting up a virtual email server in ubuntu (I have an mx record pointed at my ip)03:53
arkanesThe Python packages for Ubuntu don't seem to contain the profile module, and I can't find another package that does, anyone have any pointers?03:53
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MarcNDrKritical: what do you mean by virtual mail server?03:53
Razor-XDrKritical: if you want a real full-blown server, my suggestion is to read a *lot* of docs03:53
R0bNycRazor-X, no in ubuntu lol03:53
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Razor-Xassuming you want an MTA03:54
Razor-XR0bNyc: oh :)03:54
DrKriticalNah, it's just for one email address03:54
Razor-Xnot quite sure, meself, check aptitude03:54
DrKriticalmy brother hosted his website from my box... www.alphaecho.co.nz03:54
R0bNycRazor-X, u mean synaptic lol03:54
Razor-XDrKritical: are you going to do SMTP forwarding, or will it act as a mail server?03:54
DrKriticalhe wants the email to forward to him03:54
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Razor-XR0bNyc: errr, apt, synaptic, aptitude, same difference03:54
DrKriticalSMTP forwarding03:54
Razor-XDrKritical: ok, that wouldn't be too hard03:54
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jvaihe needs the ubuntu server install03:54
dylan_is the GNOME developer team working to reduce the processor and memory usage?03:54
Razor-XDrKritical: I use a similar setup using fetchmail and nbsmtp03:55
DrKriticalRazor-X: Can you suggest a good program? mybe even one with a nice GUI :D03:55
R0bNyclol03:55
Razor-XDrKritical: oh um... *cough*03:55
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MarcNDrKritical: use a simple MTA and put a .forward file in ~brother/03:55
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icemanhow to reconfigure the VNC on the linux machine, the network only broadcast 127.0.0.1, but the linux part see's full network03:55
Razor-XDrKritical: I haven't seen much by the way of an MTA and GUI03:55
DrKritical.forward aye?... o... kay...03:55
MarcNiceman: what is the ip of the windows box and of the linux box?03:55
Razor-XDrKritical: I have an actual working setup if you want that03:55
DrKriticalRazor-X: yes please!03:56
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megabyzustest03:56
bimberiarkanes: the multiverse package "python-profiler" might be what you're after03:56
icemanlinux box is like 192.168.0.20503:56
Razor-XDrKritical: is nbsmtp in the breezy repos?03:56
shadeofgreyguys i have a horrible peroblem03:56
Razor-XDrKritical: (I use hoary, and it isn't, so I compiled it)03:56
MarcNiceman: and the windows box?03:56
DrKriticalRazor-X: one second03:56
solidgrooveanyone succesfully compile kernel on 5.10?03:56
megabyzussimple question03:56
icemanwindows is a complete different ip...03:56
megabyzusi added 'wine' thru synaptic03:56
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megabyzusbut I don't see it in the application list03:57
MarcNiceman: when you say 'ip' you mean ip address, right?03:57
GarrettRazor-X: No dice.03:57
megabyzuswhere is it?03:57
icemanlinux finds the windows box, windows cannot find linux ... LOL03:57
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Razor-XGarrett: ah :(03:57
shadeofgreyi removed my old version ofg foirefox and installed the newerst version using apt-get and somehow i screwed something up.  i no longer get the option to "Set image as Wallpaper" when i right click on images03:57
icemanyes the ip's03:57
shadeofgreywhat the hell did i do and how the hell do i fix it?03:57
pc22fro windows. how do i telnet my ubuntu box03:57
DrKriticalRazor-X: nah it's not... whats that for? I thought fetchmail was an smtp server?03:57
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rain`Razor-X: thanks for the tip, but it turns out it was just a iso9660 format so I just loop mounted it03:57
shadeofgreyill pay money to whomever helps me with this NOW03:57
GarrettRazor-X: Just spat out the Windows portion of menu.lst and stalled. HD LED lit up for probably...10 seconds.03:57
shadeofgreyand i mean it,03:57
Razor-XDrKritical: fetchmail fetches your mail03:57
pc22from windows. how do i telnet my ubuntu box03:57
MarcNiceman: are you sure the network is okay?03:57
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DrKriticalDrKritical: So it's a pop/imap client?03:57
DrKriticallol03:57
MarcNpc22: don't use telnet, use ssh (or putty on windows)03:58
shadeofgreyif i cant xchange my desktop wallpaper atleast three times a day ill lose my grip on reality03:58
Razor-XGarrett: mmmm03:58
icemanthe "wine versions of vnc installed shows 127.0.0.1 for the linux box broadcast ip ... but how to set the ip in linux and wine to broadcast the correct ip03:58
Razor-XDrKritical: it's a severely limited MTA03:58
Razor-XGarrett: did you grub-install again?03:58
shadeofgrey.....and p.s. im almost out of painkillers....  so....  help SOON would be good03:58
DrKriticalRazor-X: So fetchmail isn't really needed in what I want to do? I should be more concerned about nbsmtp?...03:58
_DezMarcN when i boot up my pc it says Fatal eRror no device */acpi/fan.ko same with thermal03:58
shadeofgreyotherwise i might have a psychotic episofe03:58
Razor-XDrKritical: yeah, pretty much03:58
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robotgeekhas anyone been successful in getting postfix to relay to gmail?03:58
GarrettRazor-X: Come again?03:58
Razor-XDrKritical: fetchmail gets your mail, nbsmtp gives it03:58
psusiis there a flag to get dd to use O_DIRECT?03:58
icemanI know the network is ok, as i said linux can vnc connect to the windows system, but not windows to the linux box03:58
MarcNiceman: you have only one system and running windows in a wine box?03:58
psusito bypass the buffer cache?03:59
GarrettRazor-X: Not familiar with what you're talking about.03:59
bimberimegabyzus: run it from the terminal - "wine freecell.exe" for example03:59
Razor-XGarrett: you should run ``grub-install /dev/path/to/first/master''03:59
jvaii fix'd forwarding mail thru gmail03:59
Razor-XGarrett: after editing the config03:59
icemanno two systems one LINUX / WINE ... Other is Windows XP03:59
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megabyzusbimberi thanks03:59
MarcN_Dez: so the fan and thermal drivers can't find your hardware.  supported?  some module configuration file needed?03:59
bimberimegabyzus: yw :)03:59
DrKriticalRazor-X: I'm a little concerned compiling my own software for an smtp server... because I couldn't be trusted to keep it updated... know of any other software packages that do the same job avaliable in repos?03:59
GarrettRazor-X: I feel stupid. :)03:59
Ivo_Newbei have a simple question: in what site can I find a list of software/packages I can download and install?03:59
megabyzusbut how can i add it to the intercae application list?03:59
Razor-XDrKritical: nbsmtp is real simple to setup, assuming you use mutt, a tad bit harder if you don't, but still simple03:59
jvaisetting rechreiv to "none"03:59
_DezMarcN my LAptop doesnt have ACPI04:00
Ivo_Newbeanyone can help me?04:00
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GarrettRazor-X: Can I do this after I've rebooted?04:00
Razor-XDrKritical: yeah, I thought the same too, but nbsmtp really works for this purpose, it is the ``No-Brainer SMTP server'' :P04:00
MarcNiceman: you don't run vnc in a wine container on linux.  Use the linux native version of vncserver or vncviewer.04:00
robotgeekjvai: in postfix?04:00
megabyzusbimberi...are you still there?04:00
bimberimegabyzus: Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor04:00
Razor-XGarrett: do it while you're sitting in front of a booted machine, then reboot04:00
gord_Ivo_Newbe: if you open up synaptic you will get a list with information about each package04:00
bimberimegabyzus: yeah, just slow :)04:00
GarrettMmkay.04:00
ksmurfhello all.  Can anyone shed some light on Hibernate to disk? I have an acer laptop that seems to hibernate to swap but not resume.  any ideas?04:00
icemancan i apt-get those vnc parts04:00
MarcN_Dez: perhaps that is the problem.04:00
Hex1how do you make Breezy remember your DNS settings, intead of continuously resetting to 10.1.1.1 ?04:01
Ivo_Newbesynaptic?? what is it?04:01
R0bNycRazor-X, quick question in synaptic i searched for kernel ... and i see linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 and linux-image-2.6.12-9-686-smp (i want to try those 2) on the latest version says 2.6.12-9-.23 then i go down a lil more and it shows linux-image-686 and linux-image-686-smp (With no #'s ) but then where it says latest version says 2.6.12.16 .. im confused there04:01
MarcNksmurf: did you add the appropriate stuff to grub so you can return from hibernate?04:01
_DezMarcN i dont want it tto try to load them at all.04:01
robotgeekRazor-X: so, nbsmtp is easier to configure than postfix (for gmail stuff) ?04:01
megabyzusbimberi...wow it's crwoed here...can we talk directly?04:01
gord_Ivo_Newbe: system -> administraion -> synaptic in breezy badger04:01
ksmurfMarcN  and that would be what? I am quite the noob at laptops04:01
Razor-XR0bNyc: the one with numbers isn't the default kernel, the one without numbers is04:01
bimberimegabyzus: ok04:01
Razor-Xrobotgeek: much simpler04:01
MarcN_Dez: they aren't getting successfully loaded.  doesn't cause a problem,  just the message on boot, right?04:01
robotgeekRazor-X: i've spent the whole day on postfix, it almost works :)04:02
megabyzusok...i'm dumb...how do you do that (chat direct)04:02
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R0bNycRazor-X, but it shows linux-image-2.6.9-386 and linux-image-386 installed already04:02
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Razor-Xrobotgeek: that's as far as I got, till a friendly sysadmin told me about nbsmtp04:02
_Dezyeah MarcN it takes like 30seconds just to display the error so it can finish booting04:02
bimberimegabyzus: you have to register your nick and be identified first04:02
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zawoot got it running04:02
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zaanyone know how i can install winrar04:03
Razor-XR0bNyc: get both then, just in case, but 686 is basically the i686 processor, P4's and later mobile Pentium processors fall under that04:03
robotgeekRazor-X: hmm, it fails on some verfication stuff04:03
Ivo_Newbethank you04:03
MarcNksmurf:  I added this to the kernel line in grub's menu.lst;   resume=/dev/hda5    where hda5 is my swap partition04:03
Razor-XR0bNyc: SMP is multiple processor04:03
zait gives me instructions but im not sure if im suppose to enter them in word for word04:03
Razor-Xrobyeah, you need tls crap04:03
bimberimegabyzus: keep it in the channel, hopefully your irc client highlights when your nick is used04:03
Razor-Xerrr04:03
phoenixp3kHello!04:03
psusiza: you don't... winrar is a windows program... there are linux archivers that understand the rar format thoguh04:03
Razor-Xrobotgeek: you need tls crap04:03
megabyzusbimberi i'm trying direct client to client04:03
ksmurfMarcN thanks04:03
icemanHit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/multiverse Sources04:03
icemanIgn http://wine.sourceforge.net source/ Sources04:03
icemanHit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Sources04:03
icemanGet:6 http://wine.sourceforge.net binary/ Packages [1083B] 04:03
icemanGet:7 http://wine.sourceforge.net source/ Sources [712B] 04:03
iceman99% [Waiting for headers] 04:03
R0bNycRazor-X, yea i know i have  prescott p4 w/ HT so thats why I use the SMP 1.. but I wanted to see how the 686 works w/o SMP...04:03
Razor-Xiceman: no!04:03
icemanw t f that locked up04:03
Razor-Xiceman: in pastebin04:03
Razor-X!pastebin04:03
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:03
megabyzusahhh fergitit04:03
R0bNycRazor-X, get both of which the one's with #'s or the others ?04:03
robotgeekRazor-X: i know, that's what's bugging me!04:03
icemani ment to put in flood04:03
zawell at rarlab.com you can download the command line only version of winrar for linux04:03
phoenixp3kcan someone guide me to enable an ISA sound card. The wiki guide isnt much help04:03
megabyzusbimberi let's just stay here04:04
Razor-XR0bNyc: you can try it out, just change the booted kernel in GRUB04:04
robotgeekza: unrar-nonfree04:04
MarcN_Dez: are you sure that that is what is slowing down?  could be the next thing starting up.  You could muck around in /etc/mod* to remove them.  Been a while since i needed to mess with module configuraiton04:04
bimberimegabyzus: k :)04:04
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zaa website robot?04:04
megabyzusbimberi so when i go the menu editor how do i find 'wine'?04:04
Razor-XR0bNyc: or get them using apt-get/synaptic/aptitude, I suggest both04:04
Razor-Xrobotgeek: go and compile nbsmtp04:04
robotgeekza: no,it's in the repos. apt-get install unrar-nonfree04:04
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Razor-Xrobotgeek: it takes mere seconds to compie on a clunker like this04:04
R0bNycRazor-X, get them both with and without the #'s ?04:04
bimberimegabyzus: no, you need to add it there, wine doesn't add an entry when it's installed04:04
Razor-Xrobotgeek: it's extremely small, meant for high-load servers04:04
Razor-XR0bNyc: yeah04:04
zaoh ok04:04
robotgeekRazor-X: hmm, okay...going there now!04:04
Razor-Xrobotgeek: i'ld give you a hoary deb, but most people don't use hoary yet04:05
megabyzusbimberi  so i assume i have to 'create a new entry' in the ditor right?04:05
Razor-X*anymore04:05
R0bNycRazor-X, alrightt hanks .. btw ubuntu updates grub for me i hope04:05
phoenixp3kAt least a hint on how to configure ALSA ^04:05
Razor-XR0bNyc: if you get it from apt/aptitude/synaptic, then yes04:05
Razor-Xbut GRUB shouldn't be a problem04:05
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zaapt-get install unrar-nonfree04:05
bimberimegabyzus: yes04:05
psusigrub doesn't get updated04:05
zai get a error04:05
GarrettRazor-X: When I do the "grub-install" it spits out hd0 as /dev/hda and hd1 as /dev/hdb.04:05
robotgeekRazor-X: no problem, i have no issues compiling04:05
MarcN Razor-X: most are on hoary?  I'm on dapper :-)04:05
psusiit isn't being maintained anymore04:05
GarrettNo mention about sda1 (which I'm trying to boot to.04:06
zasays couldnt open lock file04:06
zai sould be typing that in the terminal correct Robotgeek?04:06
Razor-XGarrett: i'm thinking that hdb is your sda104:06
megabyzusbimberi so wehn I go there I have to find the wine 'command'04:06
dooglusza: put "sudo " in front of it04:06
megabyzusbimberi where is it in the file system?04:06
Garrett"fdisk -l" spits out hdb as it should be, and sda as it should be with all partitions.04:07
robotgeekRazor-X: damn, the source file is not downloadable, 500 error!04:07
zawhat is sudo do dooglus?04:07
shadeofgreyguys04:07
Razor-XGarrett: oh... hmmm04:07
dooglusza: it runs stuff as root04:07
shadeofgreyseriously i need help with this04:07
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Razor-XGarrett: so you have three disks?04:07
bimberimegabyzus: /usr/bin/wine04:07
GarrettYes.04:07
shadeofgreyi broke firefox somehow04:07
psusiGarrett, you have both an ide and a scsi drive?04:07
zaif im root though shouldnt it automatically do that?04:07
robotgeekRazor-X: other mirror worked04:07
GarrettTwo IDE, one SATA.04:07
zaand it says it cant find the package04:07
zacouldnt find unrar-nonfree04:07
psusiGarrett, ok... edit your /boot/grub/devices.map04:08
bimberimegabyzus: you also need to specify what program you're going to run so -  /usr/bin/wine /path/to/program.exe04:08
Razor-XGarrett: try this04:08
dooglusza: the packages is called 'unrar-nonfree' and it's in the multiverse repository.04:08
psusiGarrett, your bios can boot from the scsi drive right?04:08
Razor-XGarrett: open a terminal, type ``grub''04:08
megabyzusbimberi is that all in the same line in the 'browse box'?04:08
robotgeekza: yup04:08
psusiGarrett, as long as it can, you should be able to edit your /boot/grub/devices/map and point (hd0) to /dev/sda04:09
zayeah i typed 'sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree'04:09
zasaid no package named unrar-nonfree existed04:09
Razor-XGarrett: and hit ``root (hd'' and hit enter04:09
dooglusza: you need to enable the multiverse repo04:09
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Razor-XGarrett: to see if /dev/sda is already mapped to anything04:09
phoenixp3kNeed help on how to activate a ISA sound card. Wiki is not helping...04:09
bimberimegabyzus: no, just cancel out of the browser and type it directly into the command field04:09
Razor-XGarrett: put the output in pastebin04:09
zaheh im pretty noob, exactly how do i do that ;\04:09
dooglus!repos04:09
ubotuI guess repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource04:10
ubuntukinghello all04:10
Razor-Xrobotgeek: compiled?04:10
megabyzusbimberi ok...just so that i'm a totla pain in the ass...where do i find the icon for wine?04:10
zadooglus: event not found04:10
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bimberimegabyzus: sec...04:10
robotgeekRazor-X: on it, was checking out the options04:10
GarrettRazor-X: What am I typing in again to grub? "root hd(" output something about the FS being FAT.04:10
dooglusza: when I typed "!repos" here, the bot saw it, and responded with the text you need to read04:10
robotgeekRazor-X: yup, done04:10
dooglusza: see what ubotu said?04:11
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Razor-Xrobotgeek: yes, make sure you have libssl dev libs in order to compile with tls support04:11
psusiGarrett, what is the line in /boot/grub/devices.map that starts with (hd0)?04:11
robotgeekRazor-X: yeah, have them04:11
zak04:11
Razor-XGarrett: ``root (hd''04:11
phoenixp3kOh. well...04:12
Razor-Xrobotgeek: then take a look at ./configure --help, should have only one option :)04:12
phoenixp3kguess I Ll have to live without sound04:12
zadooglus:  i should be the root, but why do i have to type sudo before apt-get?  did i do something wrong during the install or forget some kind of permission04:12
phoenixp3k... of music...04:12
Garrettpsusi: (hd0)/dev/hda04:12
bimberimegabyzus: i can't find one that was installed, just select something appropriate from /usr/share/pixmaps for now04:12
psusiza, no... root is root, you are you04:12
dabaRza: ya, you should not be the root.04:12
robotgeekRazor-X: yeah, compiled -> checkinstalled also :)04:12
Razor-Xza: you shouldn't be root, unlike windows, you don't have total control of your machine04:12
zaahh ok04:12
psusiGarrett, that's the problem... point it to /dev/sda if that's the drive you want to boot from04:13
dabaRRazor-X: lol04:13
Razor-Xrobotgeek: nice, let's make a wiki entry later with a breezy and hoary deb :)04:13
nebularI'm trying to share a printer via samba, but I don't seem to have a printcap file. How do I generate one?04:13
megabyzusbimberi..stand by04:13
Razor-Xza: because Linux gives root true power04:13
dabaR!rootsudo04:13
uboturumour has it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:13
GarrettRazor-X: Outputs the filesystem is fat.04:13
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robotgeekRazor-X: i have the ppc deb :)04:13
zaso couldnt any user just do sudo then04:13
Razor-Xrobotgeek: oh :P04:13
zai mean thats like any user having the power root has04:13
dabaRza no only those in the admin group, the first user is by default.04:13
zak04:13
GarrettRazor-X: BRB04:13
Razor-Xza: they need the root password also04:13
Garrettpsusi: BRB04:14
zaoh yeah04:14
dabaRRazor-X: no they dont.04:14
Razor-Xrobotgeek: now, you use mutt?04:14
Razor-XdabaR: oh, woops, my bad04:14
psusiRazor-X, by default ubuntu configures duto to require YOUR password, root has none04:14
Razor-Xyeah, I realized my mistake04:14
dabaRRazor-X: only have to be in admin group, and they get it with grant.04:14
psusimyself, I just set it to not ask for any password04:14
psusis/duto/sudo04:14
dabaRza: only one use with sudo is fine.04:14
megabyzusbi,kberi...i've added wine the menu04:14
megabyzuswhen i click on it nothing happens04:14
robotgeekRazor-X: yeah, i need to configure gmail for sending mutt04:15
Razor-Xrobotgeek: open up your .muttrc04:15
dreadnoughthey!04:15
robotgeekRazor-X: fetchmail already dumps gmail to my system04:15
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robotgeekRazor-X: kk, next lines please :)04:15
Nihil85mustard5, private04:15
megabyzusjust to confirm i have /usr/bin/wine /path/to/program.exe in the text box next to 'browse'04:15
megabyzusbimberi there is a space between /wine and /path04:16
Razor-Xrobotgeek: and type in ``set sendmail="/usr/local/bin/nmsmtp -D -f username@domain.com -M -p -U username -P password -s -h smtp.gmail.com"''04:16
bimberimegabyzus: yes04:16
Razor-Xerrr04:17
robotgeekRazor-X: damn, i downloaded nbsmtp :)04:17
Toranwhen are you guys planning on releaseing the latest version of xchat to the repositories?04:17
megabyzuswell when i click on 'wine' on the menu nothing happens....04:17
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Razor-Xrobotgeek: I added one little typo04:17
zadooglus:  do you play any games?04:17
icemanok, how to install from a RPM file04:17
Razor-Xrobotgeek: and type in ``set sendmail="/usr/local/bin/nbsmtp -D -f username@domain.com -M -p -U username -P password -s -h smtp.gmail.com"''04:17
Razor-Xyeah, meh :P04:17
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Razor-Xand one more thing!04:17
dabaRiceman: why are you installing an rpm04:17
Razor-Xnot ``-p'' but ``-p''04:17
Razor-Xerrr!04:17
bimberimegabyzus: did you literally type "/path/to/program.exe"04:17
bimberi?04:17
Razor-Xnot ``-p'' but ``p''04:17
[linner] hello :)04:17
Razor-Xhahaha, sorry04:17
Razor-Xfinally should be04:18
megabyzusbimberi: yes04:18
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megabyzusbimberi; without the quotes though04:18
icemandabaR only version of tightvnc for linux was a rpb04:18
[linner] tritium:  hello :) :) :)04:18
icemanrpm04:18
Razor-X``set sendmail="/usr/local/bin/nbsmtp -D -f username@domain.com -M p -U username -P password -s -h smtp.gmail.com"''04:18
zaanyone plays games throuhg linux... if so, do you use WINE?04:18
robotgeekRazor-X: done, now checking04:18
dooglusza: you don't need to log in as root - in fact it's discouraged, especially for n00bs04:19
Razor-Xza: I play mostly Linux only games04:19
MarcNza: games are for lusers04:19
bimberimegabyzus: yeah no quotes, but that is supposed to be replaced by the path to wherever the windows program you want to run is located04:19
zalol04:19
robotgeekRazor-X: i got the p, so lemme retry04:19
Razor-XTetris, TuxRacer, NetHack, etc.04:19
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zawell i play games =[04:19
dooglusza: I don't play a lot of games, no.  I play DROD occasionally, and recently played GTA San Andreas and Fahrenheit - Indigo Child04:19
dreadnoughtDABAR!04:19
BeGuwhat is DROD?04:19
Razor-Xof course, my real gaming is done on console (where I think it's best)04:19
zadoes linux suppot OpenGL?04:19
zaor no04:19
MarcNZa: just teasing.  I play worm04:19
megabyzusbimberi...LOL...i think i understand what you're saying....04:19
dabaRiceman: sudo aptitude install tightvncserver04:19
bimberimegabyzus: an example might be /home/bimberi/windows/solitaire.exe04:19
dooglusBeGu: Deadly Rooms Of Death -- drod.net04:19
Razor-Xbut, how much time would I have to game with two AP classes, and the rest honors classes? :P04:19
Sir_Realityis something screwy going on in the apt repositories? everything is marked as newly upgraded04:20
zai play WoW and stuff04:20
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megabyzusbimberi so wine NEEDS a particular program to run?  It can't just start emulation and you can kickoff windows program within it?04:20
[linner] does anyone know what causes Ubuntu to think that a critical temperature has been reached ... even though its a cool as a cucumber????04:20
gord_linux supports open gl za, you'll have a hard time getting wow to run though04:20
rain`IDDQD04:20
dooglusza: I installed everquest yesterday - but it told me it was going to take 4 hours to download the patches, so I left the PC to it.04:20
bimberimegabyzus: wine doesn't run as a standalone program itself - it allows you to run windows programs04:20
gord_apprently older versions of wow run, but not the latest patches04:20
Davey__if you want VNC in Ubuntu, it has a VNC Server built in04:20
bimberimegabyzus: yep, you got it just as i hit the return key :)04:20
Razor-Xif I want to play Morrowind, I simply boot into Windows04:20
megabyzusbimberi....I get it....thnak you for your time.04:20
dooglusDavey__: it does?  how do you run it?04:21
megabyzusbimberi you have been very patient with me04:21
bimberimegabyzus: np :)04:21
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megabyzusBYE04:21
_native_is tightVNC available?04:21
Razor-Xthat and my dad's rage are the only reasons it still exists on this box :P04:21
dreadnoughtwow u all suck04:21
dabaRDavey__: he does not even know the IP, he thinks its the same as windows...04:21
bimberimegabyzus: cya04:21
zalol dooglus04:21
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megabyzusquit04:21
Davey__dooglus, System > Preferences > Remote Desktop04:21
zagord: you can run wow in ogl and directx cant you04:21
_native_or a better question whats the most secure/best way to do VNC?04:21
Razor-XI know I suck, I mean I like my soft drinks with straws, after all :)04:21
Davey__dooglus, its per user04:21
SEJeff_native_: NX04:22
zaa kid at school who runs fedora advised against running WINE to play games04:22
Razor-X_native_: if you want secure, you want X forwarding tunneled through SSH04:22
SEJeff_native_: Faster than vnc and tunneled through ssh04:22
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Razor-Xza: how old was that kid? :P I'll probably match him04:22
zai think about my age04:22
za20-21ish04:22
bimberi_native_: yep, FreeNX - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX04:22
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gord_yea you can, which is why you can run older versions though wine, but the latests versions are dodgy. its best to check the compatibility list on the wine site http;//www.winehq.org i think04:22
_native_i do ssh with X forwarding now. so....04:22
[linner] or.... what causes hanging when booting????04:22
Razor-Xza: WINE is the de facto free windows emulator04:22
_native_guess im on the right track.04:22
zayeah, is it shitty or something?04:22
_native_;] 04:22
Razor-X_native_: FreeNX is a bitch to setup, I hear04:22
guilhermewhat better media player for ubuntu? totem is vey restricted!04:22
gord_there is nothing wrong with using wine to play games, its just that you might have a hard time getting them to work. lots do though04:22
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dabaRguilherme: yes04:23
zaahhh ok goird04:23
Razor-Xguilherme: I prefer mplayer, personally04:23
MarcNSEJeff: freenx you mean? is it OSS?04:23
gord_anything that is directx only is basicaly a no no without cadega though04:23
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Razor-XMarcN: *Free*NX :)04:23
_native_Razor-X:  yeah i tried it a while back a just said screw it.04:23
Razor-XI'm thinking that implies free as in libre04:23
bimberiRazor-X: seveas has put together some breezy packages which make it fairly straightforward04:23
MarcNRazor-X: not in ubuntu it seems04:23
Razor-Xbimberi: crazy, Seveas has some mad time on his hands04:24
guilhermeRazor-X: The name is 'mplayer' ? (will look at repositories)04:24
bimberiRazor-X: :)04:24
Razor-Xguilherme: mmmhmmm04:24
_native_who's a fluxer in here?04:24
guilhermei'll try.. thanks04:24
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Razor-X_native_: not me, I take a healthy dose of ratpoison :P04:24
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SEJeffMarcN: Yes, it is. I meant NX as a protocol. freenx is the oss server04:24
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[linner] SEJeff:  remember me? :)04:24
_native_Razor-X: i know you where pimpin you slick sever ideas the other day. ;-] 04:25
SEJeff[linner] , yeah04:25
MarcNSEJeff: hmm, no one packaged it for debian/ubuntu it seams.04:25
psusihey, SEJeff !04:25
ParkwayWould anyone know if, with the new distro, a wireless USB adapter is possible?04:25
MarcNseems04:25
_native_*server04:25
jvaii use feather linux.. if that flux ebuff lol04:25
Razor-X_native_: hmmm, how did they get received by #ubuntu-server and #ubuntu-instant ?04:25
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psusiSEJeff: got grub working... it seems that it accepts the device (hd0,4) syntax, but it isn't correct... just had to drop that command and give it a geometry command instead04:25
GarrettRazor-X: Still around?04:25
[linner] SEJeff:  well... i loaded ubuntu... and got all the way til it told me that my video card was wrong.... tried to reboot and now it's hanging all over the place...04:25
zaman i love linux04:25
jvaithinkpad keyboards04:25
Razor-XGarrett: yeahp04:25
robotgeekRazor-X: mutt says Error. Child exited04:25
zai dont think i could go back to windows04:25
_native_Razor-X: i dont know i have'nt been in those channels for while.04:25
[linner] SEJeff:  did you do anything special to get your lappys to run?04:25
SEJeffpsusi: Thats ugly, but it works now. Thats what matters04:26
Razor-Xugghh, the last 16 MB andI'm downloading at 7.1 k/s04:26
XlylithHi all, does anyone know how to fix incorrect version of packages retrieved by my synaptic04:26
SEJeff[linner] : Installed it :-)04:26
GarrettRazor-X: We've made some progress, hah. It now spits out "GRUB loading stage2" and freezes.04:26
Razor-Xon me torrent, rather04:26
[linner] SEJeff:  huh?04:26
[linner] SEJeff:  I did try to install it...04:26
SEJeff[linner] : nothing special. Ubuntu just worked for me04:26
psusiSEJeff: yea... wasn't nearly as ugly as getting lilo to work though, for that I had to patch the source and use all kinds of ugly commands in lilo.conf04:26
[linner] SEJeff:  bummer....04:26
Razor-Xrobotgeek: ok, try this, in mutt, fcc your mail to a file04:26
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dooglusDavey__: thanks.  I've been manually launching x11vnc until now.  I didn't realise there was a built in server.04:26
[linner] SEJeff:  i mean good for you... bad for me04:26
SEJeff[linner] : File a bug, it will lead to it getting fixed faster04:27
psusigrub just needed to be told to use /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae for hd0 instead of /dev/hda, and the geometry since it didn't detect it right for some reason04:27
[linner] SEJeff:  thanks...04:27
Davey__dooglus, :)04:27
psusiI've never used grub before but already I love it04:27
[linner] SEJeff:  i think i'm just going to try to just reinstall it first04:27
dooglusDavey__: just one concern - where does it save my password?04:27
XlylithHi all, does anyone know how to fix incorrect version of packages retrieved by my synaptic04:27
Davey__dooglus, no idea, LOL04:27
SEJeff_native_: You might add: 'deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas freenx' to your sources.list and then apt-get freenx. Makes it pretty easy thanks to Seveas04:28
psusiand they told me I COULDN'T get ubuntu working on a hardware fakeraid raid 0... hah... never tell me I can't do something04:28
robotgeekRazor-X: hmm, how would i Fcc to a file?04:28
MarcNdooglus: the vncpassword is not the same as your user password.  it is stored in ~/.vnc/passwd04:28
Razor-Xrobotgeek: add a filename to the FCC field, of course :P04:28
SEJeffpsusi: Define they04:28
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Ep|phanyanyone know how to run tightvnc?04:28
benkong2anyone got a good site for installing enlightenment on breezy? I can't get the soulmachine.net/ unstable to work. apt-get says Ign when I do apt-get update04:28
psusiSEJeff, anyone I told that I was trying ;)04:28
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MarcNEp|phany: client or server side?04:29
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dylan_can somebody help me?  my cd drive says that it can burn at 52x, i have edited the hdparm.conf and bootmisc.sh files accordingly to what people and the ubuntu wiki have told me, and yet i cannot burn as fast as i may under Windows XP.  any help is appreciated.04:29
MarcNEp|phany: usually just xtightvncviewer hostname:1 or tightvncserver to start a server04:29
SEJeffpsusi: You will learn to love the grub shell once it saves your butt a time or two04:29
psusiit was like as soon as they saw mention of raid, their brain shut down and their auto reply was "that kind of raid isn't supported"04:29
psusioh hell yea04:30
psusiit didn't quite default the right parameters the first time04:30
SEJeffpsusi: AND your time04:30
robotgeekRazor-X: hmm, the file was recieved.04:30
psusiso I dropped to the shell and fixed it04:30
_native_SEJeff:K04:30
Razor-Xrobotgeek: like it was saved?04:30
dooglusMarcN: we're talking about vino, not vnc, and it seems to be stored in gconfd04:30
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robotgeekRazor-X: i said test message as the subject. it seemed to gone through. but not thru nsmtpd?04:31
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dooglusMarcN: at any rate, I see a new entry ADD 1728053320 "def" "/apps/gnome-settings/vino" in my .gconfd/saved_state04:31
Razor-Xpsusi: GRUB with RAID?04:31
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Razor-Xpsusi: my solution for that is mdadm04:31
GarrettRazor-X: Suggestions for this crappy problem?04:32
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psusiRazor-X: yes... hardware fakeraid... my motherboard has a via sata raid controller that worked great in windows04:32
Razor-XGarrett: have you checked your devices.map, like psusi said?04:32
psusiwith a proprietary driver04:32
pppoe_dudehi all, im having A/V sync problems encoding from realvideo to xvid (or any other for that matter). What should be the fps setting for a real video?04:32
Razor-Xpusling: ahhh04:32
pppoe_dude(using mencoder)04:32
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Razor-Xmdadm works pretty well too, from what i've used04:32
psusinow I can dual boot windows and ubuntu on the raid004:32
dylan_can somebody help me?  my cd drive says that it can burn at 52x, i have edited the hdparm.conf and bootmisc.sh files accordingly to what people and the ubuntu wiki have told me, and yet i cannot burn as fast as i may under Windows XP.  any help is appreciated.04:32
psusiRazor-X, you can't boot from an mdraid raid 0 ;)04:32
GarrettChanged hd1 to sda04:32
pppoe_dudehere is the command i used04:33
GarrettAnd then I'm doing the map (hd0) (hd1) still in menu.lst04:33
SEJeffpsusi: If you ever do serious data depends on it raid with linux, use 3ware04:33
pppoe_dude mencoder ./out2old.ram -o chem1rec.avi -fps 15 -oac mp3lame -ovc xvid -xvidencopts pass=1 bitrate=80004:33
Razor-Xpsusi: you can with a few tweaks04:33
SEJeffRazor-X: custom initrd?04:33
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psusiRazor-X: you can boot from a raid-1 partition, then mount the rest of the disk as raid004:34
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Razor-Xat least Linux you can04:34
psusibut /boot has to be on a raid1 or non raid partition04:34
core77hi when i try to lauch gparted i cant this error Core77@core:~$ sudo gparted04:34
Razor-Xpsusi: oh, it wasn't? ouchies04:34
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Razor-X:P04:34
psusiif you are using mdraid that is04:34
core77Erreur de segmentation04:34
Xlylithhwllo04:35
[linner] SEJeff:  I'm trying Kubuntu now...04:35
psusibecause grub needs to be able to read /boot, which it can't do if it is on a raid004:35
SEJeff[linner] : I'm sorry04:35
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psusibut with hardware fakeraid, the bios takes care of it so grub can access the whole raid04:35
[linner] SEJeff:  why?04:35
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core77...04:35
Razor-Xcore77: Je parle un peu francais, mais, alle a #ubuntu-fr si vous parlez en francais04:36
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XlylithDoes anyone know how to fix incorrect version of packages retrieved by my synaptic, or at least point me to the docs? or Manula?04:36
SEJeff[linner] : I'm just kidding. But I'm not a kde fan. It's too cluttered for my taste04:36
=== Razor-X hopes that came out right
dooglusXlylith: what's the problem?04:36
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XlylithI try to install konquerror04:36
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core77razor i speak english just ran the installation in french04:36
dooglusXlylith: what does "apt-cache policy konqueror" show you?04:36
[linner] SEJeff:  yeah, I agree... but its going much further than ubuntu has... so I thought I could get the other desktop version later04:36
Xlylithbut it seems I try to retrieve different file version with the server04:36
LudahWhat system is required to run Ubuntu?04:36
Razor-Xcore77: I hate you :P04:36
[linner] Ludah:  What do you mean?04:37
core77i luv u04:37
SEJeff[linner] : The hardware detection is shared between ubuntu/kubuntu04:37
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Razor-Xcore77: did my sentence come out right?04:37
bob2Ludah: gnome requires something like 128MB of ram and a p204:37
ubuntuHi, can I plug togethe 2 partitions. My hda9 and hda10 have 194 MB and I want increase hda9 (root partition)?04:37
Razor-Xcore77: cool04:37
core77sure perfect04:37
Ludah[linner]  : Hardware requirement04:37
x86iIs there any real benefit to installing apache/mysql/php with apt-get, over compiling source? Other then a way to upgrade easily?04:37
bob2Ludah: Orborde equivalent ppc/ia-64 hardware04:37
[linner] SEJeff:  I wonder why I'm having more success04:37
ubuntuops: . <->?04:37
_Dezwhats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu04:37
Razor-Xgood, now I can send people to #ubuntu-fr ! :)04:37
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bob2ubuntu: are they immedialy after it?04:37
core77lol04:37
ubuntuyes04:37
ubuntubob2: yeap04:38
BeGu_Dez, ubuntu has gnome dektop and kubuntu KDE04:38
dooglusbob2: I don't think GNOME needs much of a CPU - I've seen it run OK on very old CPUs04:38
bob2x86i: and saving you hours and meaning someone else does security fixes for you04:38
_Dezo04:38
MarcNx86i: apt-get is simpler for most folks.  means you don't have to track security updates04:38
_Dezwhich ones better for a P26604:38
bob2dooglus: hm, ok, I've never gnome below a p3-450 myself04:38
ubuntubob2: resize2fs does it?04:38
Razor-Xdooglus: can it run on my P100? :)04:38
bob2ubuntu: or parted04:38
core77but do you know something about my problem04:38
Ludahbub2: ok, I just installed it on a P2 300, with 64MB RAM and it's working far from good =/04:38
bob2Ludah: 64mb of ram will make gnome suck a lot04:38
x86ibob2: Yeah, I figured that, but does it impose any limitations over source compiled? Is it less optimized? I doubt it, but it never hurts to ask04:38
ubuntubob2: sudo parted? I am runing Live CD04:38
Razor-Xbob2: yeah, bub :)04:39
dooglusRazor-X: probably.  memory is much more critical than CPU power for GNOME imho04:39
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psusinow to build me a phat rescue initrd04:39
bob2x86i: no04:39
Ludahbob2: so I notised =(  well, have to look for another distro04:39
BeGuLudah, maybe you should try dsl?04:39
gwark P2 300 ??  ouch .. mebbe try DSL for that machine04:39
Razor-Xdooglus: came with 8 MB of RAM, upgraded to 40 MB04:39
ubuntuAh, is it possible install Breezy from Live CD or just from install CD?04:39
bob2ubuntu: you'd need to install it...04:39
bob2Ludah: huh?04:39
bob2ubuntu: no04:39
Razor-XLudah: no you don't04:39
Xlylithdooglus: it showed 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu5 0 at breezy updates but 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu4 0 at main packages04:39
psusiubotu: yes, but it's a bit more tricky04:39
ubotupsusi: Are you smoking crack?04:39
bob2Ludah: use something other than gnome if you don't like it04:39
dooglusRazor-X: 40Mb would be a problem no matter what CPU you used04:39
blankmy windows just got effed up right now (right before me installing ubuntu), I have two 40 gig drives, if I Install ubuntu on one, and then install windows on the other (in that order), will my boot loader work?04:39
ubuntubob2: No, that I can not install Breezy?04:39
Razor-Xdooglus: yeah, ezzatly04:39
intelikeygwark kde runs fine on a p13304:39
psusiubotu: lol... some would say so, yes ;)04:39
ubotupsusi: No idea04:39
bob2ubuntu: you cannot (easily) install from a livecd, no04:39
Razor-Xblank: other way 'round04:40
ubuntubob2: Install parted? how can I do it form live CD?04:40
Ludahbob2: I didn't have a choise, it installed gnome without asking04:40
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blankI know, but I dont have the windows disk with me04:40
ubuntubob2: from*04:40
Razor-Xblank: windows first then linux for the best results04:40
intelikeygranted you do wait on a few things to load....04:40
bob2ubuntu: with apt...04:40
dooglusXlylith: in hoary?04:40
gwarkintelikey ... your using KDE in ubuntu rather than gnome?04:40
Razor-Xblank: :(04:40
bob2Ludah: yes, that is the default04:40
blankI know...but I dont hav the disc with me, I'm so pissed04:40
Xlylithbreezy04:40
ubuntubob2: ok04:40
bob2Ludah: if you want someting else, install it04:40
ubuntubob2: thks04:40
blankBut listen04:40
[linner] SEJeff:  do i deal with the xserver on kubuntu?04:40
blankI have windows installed04:40
intelikeynot in ub in mdk gwark04:40
psusiyou can install from a livecd... provided you don't mind running a few command lines04:40
Xlylithdooglus: I use breezy04:40
Razor-Xblank: Windows installers eat up the MBR as if they owned the bloody thing04:40
bob2blank: please ask your entire question on one line04:40
psusiand have network access04:40
SEJeff[linner] : Yes04:40
Razor-Xblank: but it's not in your boot menu?04:40
blankokay, if I install ubuntu on my other clean drive, and then I 'install, or reinstall' windows on the other, wouldn't the entries be the same? and therefore work?04:41
gwarkintelikey  ... far as i know mdk was a shoot-em-up game :)04:41
bob2psusi: yes, but debootstrap is more fiddling than I think people who need to ask will be able to deal with04:41
blankaww they do04:41
Razor-Xblank: MBR is irrespective of drive, so it won't really help04:41
[linner] SEJeff:  so if i had a problem with the video card initially then i most likely will with kubuntu also....?04:41
blankman I'm so pissed, I wont be able to do it until tomorrow then04:41
dooglusXlylith: you need to "sudo apt-get update" then.  breezy's updates have 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu6 now04:41
x86iblank: install linux over the windows, then install windows later. When windows over writes the MBR, use the cd to install GRUB again.04:41
blank*pissed pissed pissed*04:41
Ludahbob2: and uninstall gnome?  Well I wouldn't know where to begin04:41
intelikeyin ub gwark i'm x-less atm04:41
bob2Ludah: then just install something else04:41
gwark;] 04:41
Xlylithdooglus: I have04:41
blankx86i: :D, how can I install grub again with the CD04:41
Razor-Xintelikey: a suggestion if you like X is to use twin in the meantime04:42
dooglusXlylith: any errors from "sudo apt-get update"?04:42
psusibob2: possibly... if someone is asking though, best to explain and let them decide if they are that determined to do it ;)04:42
x86iblank: When you boot from the ubuntu cd, type 'expert'04:42
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Xlyliththe usual BADSIG error04:42
SEJeff[linner] : Why yep04:42
ubuntubob2: parted comes with Live CD of Breezy :)04:42
Razor-Xblank: ah yes, I forgot about that step :004:42
x86iblank: it will give you more options04:42
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LudahBeGu: dsl?04:42
Razor-X*:)04:42
[linner] SEJeff:  once i get to the point where the xserver craps out, are you able to help me with that?04:42
BeGuLudah, damn small linux04:42
blankx86i: wouldn't that reinstall ubuntu?04:42
Ep|phanyhow can i tell what video card i have04:42
Xlylithdooglus: the usual BADSIG GPG error04:42
blankwhen I choose expert, can I choose to 'only' install grub?04:42
bob2Ep|phany: look at your receipt04:42
[linner] SEJeff:  i just got finished creating the partitions and it looks like it's about to install04:42
bob2Ep|phany: what are you trying to do?04:42
LudahBeGu: ok, I will look it up on distrowatch, thx04:43
intelikeyRazor-X 'IF' i install x, it will probably be flux or k   but i'm not really planning on it.04:43
bob2blank: please don't choose expert mode04:43
x86iblank: No, you can install grub, then abort the installtion, and reboot. Grub will remain. Just dont install the base system.04:43
blankwhy not04:43
Ep|phanyi just want to see if my vid card can run a certain game04:43
Razor-XLudah: you don't need to04:43
blankah okay04:43
bob2blank: because there's no point and you'll end up with a weird system04:43
blankbob2: Why not?04:43
Ep|phanybut someone just gave me this notepad and i dont know the specs04:43
blankwhat do you mean04:43
LudahRazor-X: What do you recommend?04:43
Razor-XLudah: you don't have enough power for GTK?04:43
blankIt's only for installing grub, once it's installed, I'm going to abort the installation04:43
Razor-Xintelikey: nicers :)04:43
bob2blank: I mean, you don't understand what it does, so don't do it until you do04:43
bob2blank: then do a default install04:43
dooglusXlylith: fix the badsig error then...  "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release; sudo apt-get update""04:43
blankI understand what it does...04:43
Ep|phanyso is there away i can check what video card i have04:43
bob2blank: walk through to the partitioning stage, and then chroot into your system from another terminal04:44
bob2Ep|phany: depends04:44
bob2Ep|phany: lspci perhaps04:44
LudahRazor-X: I have 64MB RAM and Gnome eats up my hd04:44
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bob2blank: you understand what it does? really?04:44
Razor-XLudah: ahhh04:44
blankx86i: is there any other ways to install grub?04:44
Razor-XLudah: try Xubuntu04:44
Ep|phanywill device manager do the trick04:44
ubuntuHey, for use parted, does someone know what is MINOR? "resize MINOR START END"04:44
x86ibob2: The issue blank is having is that he has to install windows AFTER linux, and windows over writes the MBR. This method will get GRUB installed again.04:44
robotgeekRazor-X: not working, still.04:44
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Razor-Xrobotgeek: you FCC'd the file, I presume?04:44
blankexactly what x86i said :)04:44
dooglusXlylith: ubotu has more extreme advice for fixing the gpg error - but I'd like to know if what I told you does the trick.04:44
blankx86i: any other ways to install grub?04:44
LudahRazor-X: ok, witch window manager does it use?04:45
bob2blank: that's got nothing to do with expert mode04:45
Razor-XLudah: XFce04:45
bob2blank: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows04:45
blankright now im on windows, and it's totatly messed up, spyware crawled into me like a virus lol04:45
x86iblank: None less complicated. Not unless you know how to make a bootable floppy.04:45
Xlylithdooglus: thx, I'll try04:45
dooglusXlylith: let me know if it works.04:45
_native_omg the bug i just found i so funny it can only be seen not dscribed.04:45
blankyes, but I'd like grub installed04:45
LudahRazor-X: ok, I will look it up but it has to be a really easy window manager04:45
intelikeyblank do you have any linux os installed ?04:45
Razor-X_native_: screenshot it, baby :)04:45
dooglus_native_: make a screendump?04:45
bob2blank: read that page then04:45
blankubuntu04:45
blankkay thanks bob204:45
Razor-XLudah: it's pretty user-friendly04:45
robotgeekRazor-X: yes, do you want me to paste it somewhere?04:46
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intelikeyblank then boot ub and run grub-install04:46
Razor-Xrobotgeek: no no no, that's fine04:46
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psusilet's see... what nice things should go into a rescue initrd?  fdisk and ntfsresize... what else?  hrm...04:46
Razor-Xrobotgeek: try using the nbsmtp parameters I ganve you and append a `` < mail'' where mail is the filename of you mail04:46
x86iblank: That method  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows is the best.04:46
megabyzushow does one start a terminal in ubuntu04:46
ubuntublank: Do you know what is this MINOR ?04:46
megabyzusi want to execute commands.04:46
_native_video of it is the only thing im telling you, im rotfl.04:46
bob2megabyzus: applications -> accesseroies...04:46
robotgeekRazor-X: hmm, i did not think of that04:46
bob2megabyzus: what are you planning to do?04:47
dooglusmegabyzus: one clicks applications->system-tools->terminal04:47
megabyzusbob2 of course04:47
blankubuntu: what?04:47
Razor-Xrobotgeek: this is to see whether it's mutt that's screwing up or nbsmtp04:47
megabyzusthanks04:47
intelikeypsusi mke2fs ?04:47
robotgeekRazor-X: that seems to have worked, lemme see if it actually delivered it04:47
dooglusmegabyzus: ignore me.  bob2's right.04:47
Razor-Xpsusi: SystemRescueCD is good enough for me for a rescue disc04:47
ubuntublank: Inside parted program for resize, do you know th emeaning of MINOR?04:47
blankx86i , bob2: Thanks guys04:47
psusiI suppose for a more general rescue image... but I only use ext2 for /boot... and I might stop doing that at some point...04:47
x86iBlank: or, http://grub4dos.sourceforge.net/ can help. its a windows grub installer.04:47
intelikeypsusi bash/busybox04:47
blankI've heard of it, but I'm sorry, I dont04:47
dooglusbut...  why do I have a applications->system-tools->terminal menu entry which doesn't work???04:47
Xlylithdooglus: sorry, but it doesnt't work04:48
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_native_how could i record what it does on the scree?04:48
[linner] SEJeff:  ever used Open SuSE?04:48
dooglusXlylith: what happens?04:48
_native_*screen04:48
Xlylithdooglus: I still get the wrong version of konqueror04:48
bob2dooglus: guess it didn't get removed when it should have04:48
psusiRazor-X: I don't want to have to boot from a cd... so I'm adding toys to a new initramfs that I can have grub boot from the hard disk and manipulate the partitions and whatnot04:48
ubuntublank: Ok, you must have typed wrongly: 03:45 < blank> ubuntu04:48
bob2_native_: in X?04:48
blankwindows grub installer aye, and I'd install that while using windows? If that's the case I'll just wait, I'm running windows now and it's like being a Jew sneaking into a nazi camp04:48
_native_yes04:48
Razor-X_native_: is it in X?04:48
psusiintelikey, that's already in the initramfs04:48
SEJeff[linner] : I stopped using suse at 8.304:48
intelikeypsusi you use mke2fs for ext3 you know04:48
bob2_native_: istanbul is one option04:48
dooglusXlylith: did the update show you gpg errors again?04:48
blankubuntu: I was saying the OS I had, someone had asked04:48
Razor-Xpsusi: hmmm... that's a nice idea04:48
[linner] SEJeff:  how come?04:48
XlylithWhen I sudo apt-get update, I still get the wrong version04:48
Xlylithdooglus: nope04:48
SEJeff[linner] : Wanted to try redhat04:48
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Razor-Xpsusi: can you make something that can mount a CD image and boot a floppy at the same time?04:49
dooglusXlylith: which mirror are you using?04:49
pramzhello everyone :-)04:49
Razor-Xpsusi: that lies on an existing partition?04:49
psusiintelikey: I'm using resierfs... going to repartition a bit and do some testing of resier4 I think04:49
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[linner] SEJeff:  did you like it when you used it?04:49
ubuntublank: Ok, cause the line appeared on irssi as if you typed to me :-D04:49
Xlylithid.archive.ubuntu.com04:49
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[linner] SEJeff:  i'm downloading it now04:49
SEJeff[linner] : Eventually fell in love with fedora and later found ubuntu. Ubuntu is the best in my opinion for a linux desktop04:49
psusiRazor-X: what do you mean mount a cd and boot a floppy?04:49
chuck87does someone have a serial of vmware beta 5.504:49
chuck87?04:49
blankhey guys, I've heard so much about irssi, what is it04:49
Xlylithdooglus: I use id.archive.ubuntu.com04:49
_native_bob2: whats that and where?04:49
pramzSEJeff, i agree, I have recommended it to a few people already :)04:49
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psusiI also don't have a floppy drive... they are obsolete piles of shit and I'm glad to see them go04:49
blankAnyone know how to host an IRC?04:50
SEJeff[linner] : The guys at work use SUSE 10 (OpenSUSE) and I think it sucks honestly04:50
intelikeyblank irc client04:50
dabaRblank: an irc in the terminal.04:50
blanka04:50
psusiI wrote a floppy disk driver once for ReactOS... man they suck04:50
blank*ah04:50
blankthanks04:50
Razor-Xpsusi: hahahaha, floppies kick ass04:50
bob2_native_: uh, apt-cache search, www.freshmeat.net04:50
Xlylithdooglus: shoul I try another mirror?04:50
chuck87does someone have a serial of vmware beta 5.504:50
[linner] SEJeff:  yeah i agree... I'm running it on an older gateway... it's perfect... but for my laptop so far it sucks04:50
bob2blank: an irc client that everyone uses04:50
bob2chuck87: you will not be warned again04:50
megabyzusok i have package i want to install with a .deb extension04:50
[linner] SEJeff:  so i was thinking maybe i should try another that might have it right for my laptop04:50
megabyzus'what do i do with it?04:50
blankoh it is? I'm using xchat04:50
_native_bob2: universe or multi?04:50
dooglusXlylith: I'm just checking...04:50
psusiI hate floppies with a passion04:50
Razor-Xpsusi: not everyone can afford a $20 USB stick04:50
bob2megabyzus: what are you trying to do?04:50
SEJeff[linner] : Fedora04:50
dooglusXlylith: what version is it installing?04:50
robotgeekRazor-X: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/433904:50
psusiRazor-X: is that supposed to be a joke? ;)04:50
[linner] SEJeff:  is it easy to use?04:50
Razor-Xpsusi: think of age groups when you think of floppies :)04:51
megabyzusi'm installing skype...there is a ubuntu version i downloaded04:51
intelikeyget all your warez at ftp://localhost.localdomain04:51
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SEJeff[linner] : Very. It uses gnome 2.1004:51
robotgeekRazor-X: output of nbsmtp04:51
[linner] SEJeff:  what makes it better than SuSE?04:51
psusiyou can hardly EAT for $20... if you aren't a starving cambodian, you can afford a usb memory stick ;)04:51
[linner] SEJeff:  don't you have to pay for Fedora?04:51
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psusithat reminds me... I should go buy one of those04:51
psusiI usually just use cds or the Internet04:51
SEJeff[linner] : It *actually* has a community around it. It is free also04:51
bob2$20 could be a week's food if you're frugal04:52
Razor-Xrobotgeek: can I see your string with the password X'd ?04:53
dabaRpsusi: why would you need a stick....there is sftp...04:53
[linner] psusi:  buy what?  a starving cambodian??? :)04:53
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blankshould I be afraid of my windows 'infections' spreading over to linux?04:53
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psusilol04:53
[linner] SEJeff:  oh wow... cool.... that's the primary reason i came back to ubuntu... for the community04:53
SEJeffblank: no04:53
nemikhello everyone04:53
Xlylithdooglus: It try to install version ubuntu504:53
blankthey'd be on separate drives, but I can format my drive if I should04:53
robotgeekRazor-X: the password is blanked ot04:53
dabaR [linner]  yes, buy a starving cambodian.04:53
Razor-Xpsusi: or you're a 15 year old whose income is bottlenecked by parents, that's there too04:53
psusi[linner] , a usb memory stick04:53
robotgeekRazor-X: or encrypted04:53
[linner] dabaR:  hehehe :)04:53
SEJeff[linner] : The Ubuntu community tops ANY linux distro minus debian04:53
dabaRbob2: so...04:53
dooglusXlylith: there's no ubuntu5 version on the mirror you're using.04:53
[linner] psusi:  i was making a jobke04:53
Razor-Xrobotgeek: yeah, either way04:53
linkdw0ot04:53
[linner] psusi:  joke ;)04:53
intelikeyhmmm it would cost me a lot more than $20 to use a usb mem stick......  i'd have to have a box with a usb interface....04:53
nemikanyone know the 'default keyring password' i keep getting asked for from the printer utility?04:53
psusiRazor-X, even 15 year olds can scratch up $20... they do it all the time to buy music cds with04:53
bob2dabaR: ?04:53
psusi[linner] , it was funny ;)04:53
Razor-Xpsusi: I don't04:53
dooglusXlylith: do a "sudo apt-get clean" to clear out your apt package cache04:53
[linner] SEJeff:  and being that it's based on Debian then it's probably hand in hand :)04:53
Razor-Xpsusi: I don't own a single music CD :)04:53
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[linner] psusi:  laughing on the inside? :)04:53
Xlylithdooglus: ok04:53
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Razor-Xpsusi: my parents don't like me spending any money I have on frivolities (not that we can't afford them or anything)04:53
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psusi[linner] , no... outloud actually...04:53
SEJeff[linner] : exactly04:53
[linner] psusi:  hehehehe04:53
=== psusi can't imagine not owning a cd
[linner] SEJeff:  cross your fingers for me... it's still going... maybe JUST maybe I can get it to work04:53
psusiI was so glad when cds came out... tapes sucked so much04:53
Razor-Xpsusi: nor do I own a sigle comic book to name, I own some books though (I love reading, of course)04:53
_native_beep-media-player seems slower than xmms e.g. scrolling lag, moving around the screen lags etc...04:53
=== intelikey doesn't own any cda
SEJeffpsusi: DLT owns04:54
=== MarcN never owned a CD until I was 21.
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dabaRpsusi: cds suck worse even...04:54
nemikgood thing you're on linux...cough, $sys$ cough....04:54
psusiSEJeff: I  mean music casset tapes ;)04:54
MarcN'course they weren't invented until then...04:54
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Razor-XMarcN: did you ever notice that your sentence shifted from third to first person?04:54
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psusiSEJeff: but tapes for backup suck too... they allways work untill the moment you go to restore from them ;)04:54
megabyzusbob2 u still with me...(:)?04:54
nemikanyone know the 'default keyring password' i keep getting asked for from the printer utility?04:54
Razor-X:)04:54
Xlylithdooglus: should I try another mirror?04:54
MarcNRazor-X: yes he noticed it. ;-)04:54
robotgeekRazor-X: i don't believe this. i was messing up my password!04:54
SEJeffpsusi: That is what a BC plan is for... you test your backups every other month or so04:54
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psusiand all the slow seeking is a pain04:54
Razor-Xrobotgeek: I made an even worse mistake, and it took me 3 hours to figure it out04:55
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psusiSEJeff, yea... and the tests allways pass04:55
bob2megabyzus: ?04:55
Cindyhi guys can anyone here knows about Berkeley DB?04:55
Razor-XMarcN: :P04:55
blankI uh...wanna format this drive (since it has windows and ubuntu on it). I'm gonna install ubuntu on my other drive, and I dont want any conflicts04:55
psusithen the second you are done with a successfull test, your drive crashes, and you go to restore from the tape, and it's dead... heh04:55
dooglusXlylith: the mirror you're using is really just archive.ubuntu.com - it's fine04:55
blankin windows, what's the format command04:55
megabyzusbob2 ....do you know what to do with *.deb files?04:55
bob2Cindy: best to just ask your question04:55
blankformat C:/ ?04:55
Razor-Xblank: I think so, IIRC04:55
megabyzusbob2 i downloaded skype and wnat to install it04:55
dooglusXlylith: you could try following this advice:04:55
bob2megabyzus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype04:55
dooglus!gpgerr04:55
ubotuIf you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.04:55
blankdpkg -i package04:55
robotgeekRazor-X: damn, all this while,my postfix was working. i can't believe i did this!04:55
megabyzusbob2 thanks!04:56
bob2megabyzus: also, in future, it's simpler if you state your full problem, instead of some small sliver of it04:56
_native_SEJeff: you run selinux right and if so just on severs?04:56
blankRazor-X: what?04:56
Razor-Xrobotgeek: :)04:56
robotgeekRazor-X: thanks for your help!04:56
Razor-Xblank: format C:\ should work04:56
Cindyi want to install berkeley db to my ubuntu but i dont know how is the proper way04:56
blankhey guys I really need to frickin erase this drive, what's the best way04:56
SEJeffpsusi: We have one of those tape robots and some crazy shell scripts to copy off random files, check the md5, and then put them back where they belong04:56
psusiblank, what do you need to erase it for?04:56
SEJeff_native_: I run SELinux on my servers, not on ubuntu. It isn't really integrated with ubuntu yet04:56
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[linner] SEJeff:  can you help me ... once i get there ... tell the laptop to use another video driver?  I'm using the ATI 200m in my v2000z... and I know that's what crapped out the xserver before... but honestly can't remember how to do it all again... :(04:56
psusiSEJeff, a big system like that probably works well... I've just had cheapo consumer tape backups04:56
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blankbecause I dont want any conflicts when I install ubuntu on my other drive (since it's already installed on this one) and I'm going to erase it anyways when I install windows again04:57
ce_sma_jmblhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii04:57
kevmanCan ubotu tell me what repo a package is in?04:57
[linner] SEJeff:  tritium helped me do it before and it was a bi-otch  :)04:57
dabaRblank: its put in the cd into the drive...04:57
_native_SEJeff: its in the kernel though so wouldnt it just be a matter of writing and compiling policies?04:57
MarcNCindy: apt-get install libdb3 libdb3-dev04:57
blankor should I just erase it when I install windows04:57
blankdabaR: what?04:57
psusia long time ago I had an 80 MB QIC-80 tape drive... then I got a 2 gig scsi DAT drive04:57
megabyzusbob2 that link is asking for 'Personal Security manager' PSM04:57
dabaRblank: to format a drive, just put the installation cd into the drive.04:57
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FXRS|LaptopHello04:57
blankIf I keep this installation of ubuntu on one drive, and I install ubuntu on the other drive, will tere be conflicts?04:58
bob2megabyzus: why are you using mozilla or firefox without ssl supporT?04:58
SEJeff_native_: just a matter of writing and compiling policies... I see you've never played with selinux have you?04:58
blankdabaR: I know, but I'm not going to be using the drive today, okay listen04:58
MarcNpsusi: I installed my first linux on a 120M disk.04:58
intelikeyblank to overwrite an entire drive as root or with sudo "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hd? "04:58
robotgeekRazor-X: cool, both postfix and nbstmp work. though nbsmtp was really really simple!04:58
megabyzusbob2 i'm using this 'as-is' installed vanilla ubuntu04:58
FXRS|LaptopWonder if I could ask a question about an error I'm getting while running apt-get update?04:58
SEJeff_native_: SELinux is in the mainline kernel. The policies are the hardest part04:58
_native_SEJeff: no only grsecurity.04:58
dabaRFXRS|Laptop: no, you cant.04:58
FXRS|Laptop:D04:58
psusiMarcN: I think mine was 80 MB ;)04:58
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CindyMarcN: error occurred...E: Package libdb3-dev has no installation candidate04:58
dooglusa big telecoms company I was working for went 3 years or so not having any backups at all.  one team wrote the backup script to lock all the databases and source control and dump tarballs into /dump; another team copied the contents of /DUMP onto tar.  both teams did this religeously for 3 years, not realising that /dump and /DUMP were different places!04:58
Xlylithdooglus: is it possible that my problem caused by my ISP's proxy server04:58
Cindywaht does it mean?04:58
doogluslucky there was never a disaster...04:58
psusiit was slackware04:58
FXRS|LaptopHere is the error......04:59
dabaRFXRS|Laptop: ask ubotu about gpgerr in private message.04:59
psusicirca 199504:59
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MarcNpsusi: well that 120 had windows on some of it ;-)   SLS from floppies.04:59
_native_SEJeff: i know policies in selinux seem hard thats why i like grsecurity and rsbac.04:59
blankI have two drives, on one, I have a messed up installation of windows and a partition for ubuntu. I'm going to install windows on it, but I dont have the cd atm, so I cant right now. Instead, I'm going to install ubuntu on my other drive, but I'd like to erase this one so there wont be any conflicts. How may I do that04:59
ubuntu_sweet :)04:59
MarcNCindy: then install one of the libdb4.x packages.   apt-get search libdb  or use synaptic04:59
Xlylithdooglus: I am affraid I got the wrong package list because it is cached in the proxy04:59
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kevman!tell me about mplayer04:59
dooglusXlylith: it's possible, yes.  look here with a web browser: http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/ -- do you see #  konqueror_3.4.3-0ubuntu6_i386.deb ?05:00
Cindyok thanks MarcN your such a good one05:00
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Xlylithyes05:00
SEJeff_native_: But SELinux is the future, not grsecurity05:00
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psusiMarcN, I remember when I got a nice 486SX/25 with an 80 gig drive... DOS couldn't handle partitions more than 40 MB so you had to break it in two... heh05:00
blankanyone, please05:00
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[linner] ubotu is dumb05:00
ubotu[linner] : Did you get hit by a windmill?05:00
MarcNpsusi: mine was the rocking /33!05:00
blankI have two drives, on one, I have a messed up installation of windows and a partition for ubuntu. I'm going to install windows on it, but I dont have the cd atm, so I cant right now. Instead, I'm going to install ubuntu on my other drive, but I'd like to erase this one so there wont be any conflicts. How may I do that05:00
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_native_SEJeff: yeah its unavoidable since its in mainline.05:00
snausageshey all, how can i check if my CDs were shipped or not05:00
Xlylithdooglus: when I manually browse the web, I see the packages05:00
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psusiblank, you don't need to05:01
dabaR[linner] : did you get hit by a windmill?05:01
FXRS|Laptophmm how do I ask the bot?05:01
SEJeff_native_: And backed by redhat, ibm, and the nsa05:01
blankpussi: I dont? so there wont be any conflicts?05:01
blank*psusi05:01
psusiblank, shouldn't be05:01
[linner] dabaR:  apparently i did... kept pming it and it told me not to post in mainstream channel05:01
[linner] stupid bot05:01
_native_SEJeff: are there tools being developed to ease configuration?05:01
Xlylithdooglus: btw, what is the timestamp of the current Packages.gz?05:01
_jasonsnausages, launchpad let's you know when they were sent to the shipping company if you log in05:01
intelikeyblank use sudo cfdisk /dev/hd?   and delete any partitions on the disk in question then make new partition/s and they will be empty partitions    then mkfs the new partition   or use the installers partition editor and do the same...05:01
blankhmm...okay, but I'm still scared :'(05:01
dabaRFXRS|Laptop: in private, you have to be registered, /msg nickserv help register is the command for irc05:01
Xlylithdooglus: mine is 24 Oktober05:01
FXRS|LaptopYep I'm reg.05:01
shadeofgreyokay guys... is there anybody here thats familiar with using the very basic server install of ubuntu?05:01
SEJeff_native_: The fedora tools aren't bad for configuring selinux for apache05:01
dabaRFXRS|Laptop: then /msg ubotu gpgerr05:01
psusiif you REALLY want to blank the disk, run dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda05:01
blankintelikey: you're too smart :( I just wanna erase the whole drive, in windows, it's format C:/ ?05:01
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blankokay, but I still dont see how I can do that while actually issueing that command from that disck05:02
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blankwouldn't it like...kill itself05:02
dabaRformat c:\05:02
psusiblank, you can't do it while running windows off that drive05:02
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agtnzshadeofgrey: are you looking for a minimal desktop or for an actual server install?05:02
dooglusXlylith: which Packages.gz?05:02
blankso should I do it with knoppix?05:02
blankknoppix?05:02
intelikeyblank if you delete the partition it will effectively erace the drive...05:02
shadeofgrey....that also would take the time to talk to a relative newbie?  im pretty versed in using the full desktop version to get things done05:02
dabaRblank: yes05:02
blankactually I'll use ubuntu live05:02
psusiyou can not format c: while running windows from c:05:03
_native_SEJeff: see thats what frustrates me, the difficulty in policy writing.05:03
blanklol yeah I was wondering that05:03
blankokay so I'm gonna do it through ubuntu live, that's okay right?05:03
snausages_jason, when i go to launchpad, where can i check about the shipment05:03
_Dezhow do i uninstall ICEWM05:03
Xlylithdooglus: the one in breezy update05:03
FX|Laptopthanks for the help.05:03
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dabaR_Dez: how do you install anything?05:03
blankactually kubuntu took a while to install, so I think ubuntu will too, I'll just use knoppix05:03
FX|LaptopI guess my second name isn't reg. lol05:03
dooglusXlylith: you can see the timestamp here: ftp://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i386 -- it's 5th Nov05:03
Daveyblank, if you partition a drive for windows, format c:\ will not erase the entire drive, just that partition05:03
guilhermehey guys, any media player for mpeg videos that is compatible for ubuntu?05:04
jmworxI've got a Dell PowerEdge here and Breezy won't install on it ("can't find the CDROM or something"). Oddly enough, the last Breezy RC works.05:04
_native_SEJeff: i avoided selinux because of that cause if somthing is hard to configure most likely it will result in security holes from admin error.05:04
SEJeff_native_: You can't seriously expect Mandatory Access Control to be "easy" thats why the only other mainline OS with MAC is Trusted Solaris05:04
_DezdabaR apt-get install.. o apt-get uninstall right?05:04
intelikeyblank just boot the ub install disk and when the time comes it will ask you what to do about the partition/s   and tell it you want to manually setup partitions   then delete the old and make new    it's really simple....05:04
dabaRwhy are we talking about windows?05:04
_jasonsnausages, ack sorry... i meant shipit... just go to make a new order and it should be at the top05:04
blankso if the drive is the first one, it'd be, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda05:04
dvhartguilherme, totem/mplayer/xine05:04
nebularI'm attemping to setup printer sharing through cups and samba. previously when I set this up samba would automatically setup the printer from the printcap file, but now I don't seem to have one, how do I set one up?05:04
dooglusXlylith: what do you see for this command: md5sum /var/lib/apt/lists/*ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages05:04
snausages_jason, it just asks me how many cds i want :\05:04
shadeofgreyagtnz:  im looking to create a minimal desktop install designed for the single purpose of becoming a dedicated mailserver -- but im not looking to do everything by commandline... i want Xwindows and Gnome running, just because i only have the use of one hand and typing all the commands id need to really get things going with three fingers on one hand is a daunting task05:04
blankitelikey: Like I've said, I want to erase a different disk, not the one I'm installing ubuntu on05:04
guilhermedvhart: this a package (repositories) , plugin or a binary?05:04
snausageseven though i ordered a long time ago05:05
snausagesi don't even remember when05:05
Xlylithdooglus: then it seems that my ISP's proxy mess this up :-D05:05
blankdd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda erases the whole drive right?05:05
_native_SEJeff: it cant be that hard. you can throw it in targeted mode right as too debug policies?05:05
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intelikeyblank  i know.... just do what i said  it works ......   really    the setup script in ubuntu will let you do that....05:05
Xlylithdooglus: is there any way to get the package list manually and overwrite it to the old one?05:05
_jasonsnausages, mine says: Your previous requests05:05
_jason    * 2005-09-25: 5 CDs (sent to shipping company)05:05
_jason at the top... you logged in with same account?  when did you order?05:05
Shadowpillarquestion05:05
blankI'm so scazred :(05:05
Shadowpillarwhat kernel does breezy use?05:06
Cindyim installing my openLDAP but after i type ./configure something went wrong05:06
SEJeff_native_: Correct, but you need to know the internals of the OS very well.05:06
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Shadowpillar2.6.12?05:06
blankhey, if I install ubuntu on a different drive while already having ubuntu installed on another drive, will there be any conflicts?05:06
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b1n0ryi'm having some problems running the livecd05:06
SEJeff_native_: ajmitch is the SELinux expert, not me05:06
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psusiblank, that will blank the entire drive, yes... though it will be faster just to delete the partitions... and prety much just as effective05:06
Cindyit ask me, configure: error: BDB/HDB: BerkeleyDB not available05:06
intelikeyblank no.05:06
blankso there wont be conflicts05:06
intelikeyblank no.05:06
_Dezhow do i remove icewm05:06
blankokay then I'll just wait until I get my windows cd so I reformat the whole piece of HD05:06
psusidoes bash have a command like pushd/popd?05:06
_Dezi want to run fluxbox instead of icewm05:07
Xenguy_Dez: apt-get remove icewm05:07
b1n0ryi get this nice red failed screen then a list of steps in the livecd boot process. i can choose the next step, but i apparently can't skip the step that's failing05:07
Cindyas far as i know i already had installed libdb4.2 from the synaptic05:07
Xenguy_Dez: --purge is optional05:07
psusioh, it HAS pushd/popd... sweet05:07
_DezThanks05:07
Xenguyyw05:07
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MarcNCindy: what is asking you that?05:07
Cindywhy does these thing happen to me?? :((05:07
_Dezicewm is teh ugly and slow05:07
blankthat's cool right? I can just wait until I get my windows cd to install it on that drive, it'd erase it anyways, and just install ubuntu on the other drive for now, that cool?05:07
b1n0rythe step that fails is "Entering Preinstalled Session"05:07
_native_i do somewhat. no expert i confess but as the saying goes "if you put your mind to it"05:08
Xenguy_Dez: ice is actually pretty lean AFAIK05:08
ShadowpillarI signed up with a valid image request for the shipit system and never got verification05:08
_native_nothing is impossible05:08
MarcNCindy: ah, openldap.  Do you have the libdb4.x-dev installed?05:08
intelikeyblank just boot the install cd and when it asks about the partitions  select manual   and you can blank all your drives from there if you like.   and then just make the partitions you want....   it is real simple.  just read what is on the screen.....05:08
Xenguy_Dez: you probably have old hardware05:08
_native_ill start playing with it.05:08
dooglusXlylith: what dates do you see here: ftp://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i38605:08
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guilhermedvhart: i'm installing, thanks, any aditional plugin for work?05:08
CindyMarcN: the synaptic wont install it05:08
blankintelikey: okay I'll do that buddy :) But I can do that even though I'm installing on another drive right?05:08
blankso I'll blank them, then install on the drive I want :D05:09
blankright?05:09
intelikeyblank correct !05:09
MarcNCindy: won't install the -dev package for which ever libdb you are using?  why?05:09
psusidoes anyone see what's wrong with this?05:09
Xlylithdooglus: it's nov 905:09
blankThanks intelikey I wub you :)05:09
blankhey cindy, I shoot blanks *wink wink*05:09
_native_when i was using hardened gentoo i had a better understanding of it but have focused on other aspects of linux lately.05:09
blankc ya guys!05:09
CindyMarcN: it says its not installable05:09
psusifor x in $PROGS do;05:09
psusicopy_exec `which ${x}` bin05:09
b1n0rythe only thing i can find via google is something about ATI cards, but i don't have an ATI card.05:10
psusidone05:10
blankI'll let ya know how it went intelikey :)05:10
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MarcNCindy: have you done an update lately?05:10
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dooglusXlylith: that's what I see too.  so it's right.05:10
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SEJeff_native_: If you want to endlessly tweak your system, gentoo is great. If you want to get work done, ubuntu is better05:10
CindyMarcN: i use this command apt-get update05:10
dooglusPackages.gz  19 KB  09/11/05  17:35:0005:10
blankanyone know any program for linux that can convert AVI files to DVD Format (to view in a dvd player)05:10
Xenguypsusi: missing a ';'  ?05:10
intelikeythe ' ; ' is on the wrong side of  ' do '05:10
MarcNCindy: apt-get upgrade lately too, right?05:10
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psusiXenguy, where?05:10
_native_SEJeff: nodoubt thats why i stopped using gentoo. ;-] 05:10
Xenguywhat intelikey said05:10
dooglusXlylith: I said 5th Nov didn't I...  I was mistaken.05:10
intelikeypsusi ^05:10
Cindyyeah05:11
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RedRoseWhen I SSH To My Server, It Displays ' As ^a, why?05:11
psusiit is?  hrm...05:11
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gord_blank: you could try Avidemux, allthough i can't guarentee it can do dvd, it can do a lot05:11
SEJeffpsusi: yes take a look at abs05:11
blankDoes anyone know of a program that can convert AVI files to DVD Format (for viewable in a dvd player)05:11
_native_SEJeff: did more compiling than actual work. well it kept the room warm in winter, :-)05:11
blankgord_ thanks05:11
MarcNCindy: which libdb did you use?  try a different one.05:11
blankAvidemux, I'll remember that05:11
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CindyMarcN: havent encountered such problem b4?05:11
gord_its very good :)05:11
blankAvidemux, Avidemux, Avidmux05:11
blankcool05:11
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intelikeypsusi syntax is  " for this in blah ;do $this ;done "05:12
blankhey AVI files aren't windows formats right?05:12
b1n0rydoes anyone have any suggestions for getting the LiveCD to work?05:12
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kalangoe ai?05:12
MarcNCindy: I've not had to install the -dev package for libdb, so no.05:12
RedRoseWhen I SSH To My Server, It Displays ' As ^a, why?05:12
guilhermeola kalango05:12
_native_intelikey: no05:12
blankHey, I'm out, this windows is freaking me out (windows popping out and freezing)05:12
SEJeffpsusi: Just try it in the shell. for file in *; do echo $file; done05:12
gord_pritty much, avi files are old technology. best to stick with encoding to .ogg. you can store subtitles n more audio streams n stuff05:12
kalangooi guilherme...05:12
psusiahh, got it... thanks05:12
kalangoto testando um linux kalango...05:12
guilhermebeleza rapaz? Acho que somos os unicos que falamos portugues aqui05:13
intelikey_native_ ?    what language ?05:13
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CindyMarcN: ah, ok.. but im trying to use centralized server with ldap thats why..:)05:13
kalangomas to querendo saber mais desse ubuntu.05:13
kalangopelo menos dois...05:13
_native_yeah what language? :-] 05:13
SEJeffkalango: #ubuntu-es ?05:13
guilhermehehe, pelo menos.. eu utilizo a pouco tempo05:13
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_native_i thought you where refering to bash scripts.05:13
guilhermept-brasil SEJeff05:13
kalangoo podes me dizer dele05:14
intelikeya bash for command is the syntax i posted ^05:14
RedRoseWhen I SSH To My Server, It Displays ' As ^a, why?05:14
blankwhat's the spanish ubuntu channel05:14
intelikeysyntax is  " for this in blah ;do $this ;done "05:14
kalangoubuntu-pt, SEJeff05:14
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SEJeffkalango: #ubuntu is an english-only channel if I'm not mistaken05:14
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shuvebwhich package contains the utilities unix2dos and dos2unix?05:15
_native_ok your style is a little different than mine.05:15
ReleaseXi just installed networkmanager, but it doesn't seem to be working, there's no aps being found05:15
intelikeydos2unix  :)05:15
SEJeffReleaseX: type nm-applet in a terminal05:15
Xenguyshuveb: dpkg -S dos2unix05:15
guilhermesorry SEJeff, we will talk in an individual window, sorry broke the common rules05:15
shuvebintelikey, there is no such package05:15
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b1n0ryalright, i guess i'm not going to get the livecd to work. too bad, i would have liked to try ubuntu.05:15
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rabeldableanyone alive on here?05:16
shuvebi even have universe and multiverse enabled05:16
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psusihrm...05:16
Xenguyshuveb: sysutils05:16
gord_what is your problem b1n0ry?05:16
livindedcan someone give me some information about this error, http://pastebin.com/42515705:16
shuvebXenguy, thanks! will try05:16
ReleaseXSEJeff:the applet is already running05:16
Xenguyshuveb: yw05:16
b1n0rygord_: i made up the livecd and attempted to boot to it. i got halted up with a nice red failed screen at "Entering Preinstalled Session"05:17
MarcNlivinded: what cpu you using? x86_64?05:17
intelikeyshuveb that was the package name on the linux distros i've installed it on....  i don't know about this ub.  it may be in with something else...05:17
Xenguyshuveb: there's also 'flip' BTW05:17
livindedyes05:17
livindedMarcN: yes05:17
robwWould anyone be kind enough to hazard a guess at why ubuntu 5.10 hangs on shutdown, with the error [4295332.587000]  Restarting System.05:17
shuvebXenguy, yep, thats the package and it worked05:17
b1n0rygord_: then i'm given a list of options to select from... choosing the next step of the process, i guess.05:17
Xenguyshuveb: great05:17
MarcNlivinded: looks like it has a problem with the glibc05:18
rabeldablelivinded edit the linux_installer.sh and add  a -x to enable debug mode for the script that should tell you where its failing at05:18
livindedMarcN: but should that not matter if i use linux32?05:18
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livindedrabeldable: ok 1 sec05:18
b1n0rygord_: i google'd and searched the ubuntu forums. the only thing i found was in relation to ATI video cards, but i don't have an ATI card.05:18
shuvebXenguy, i edited a few files with gedit and when i re-open them in vi, they are littered with ^M chars05:18
shuvebXenguy, i thought dos2unix might help05:18
MarcNlivinded: my advice is to give up playing games.    on my x86_64 servers, I don't run 32bit apps, so never used linux3205:18
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MarcNlivinded: ;-)05:19
SEJeffshuveb: ^M are windows style linebreaks. dos2unix should do the trick05:19
rabeldablethe -x goes after the #!/bin/sh with a space after the sh05:19
Xenguyshuveb: :%s/Ctrl-V Ctrl-M//g05:19
Xenguyshuveb: sorry...05:19
gord_its kinda vauge your problem b1n0ry, are you using any kind of special hardware?05:19
rabeldableif there is no #!/bin/sh try the following command instead05:19
Xenguyshuveb: I'm assuming you're in vi(m) - duh05:19
livinded1 se ci need to copy the disk05:19
rabeldablesh -x linux_installer.sh05:19
livindedok05:20
shuvebXenguy, yeah, im in vim05:20
Xenguyhah05:20
intelikeyall dos2unix does is removes the rclf markup05:20
Xenguyok05:20
rabeldableany mysql people on here?05:20
rabeldablei have a q05:20
shuvebXenguy, will try that as well05:20
SEJeffrabeldable: it have him a segfault, that means it's not going to work05:20
MarcNrabeldable: shoot.05:20
Xenguyshuveb: try the above (backup first if file is important :-)05:20
b1n0rygord_: nope, and i agree it's vague, but that's all the information it gives me. this is a standard iP4HT/1GB with DVD+/-R/W and nVidia graphics card05:20
shuvebXenguy, yeah.. ;)05:20
thomasamohtb1n0ry i tried installing ATi drivers one time, my advice is to be careful, its really easy to mess u X05:20
intelikeyerrr s/rclf/cr,lf/05:20
livindedhttp://pastebin.com/42516205:20
rabeldablemysql:  what is the weird pipe symbol character that I see in some sql statements05:21
b1n0rythomasamoht i'm not installing ATI drivers, i'm just trying to get the LiveCD to boot. i don't have an ATI card.05:21
livindedthats what it gives05:21
thomasamohtoooooohhh05:21
MarcNrabeldable: example?05:21
rabeldableit looks like a pipe, but resembles a lowercase l both upsidedown and right side up05:21
rabeldablel05:21
thomasamohtit doesn't work with your video?05:21
Xenguyshuveb: you actually press the keys, for Ctrl-V etc., yes?05:21
gord_are you sure your cd isn't a bit messed up? it sounds like a pritty solid machine for ubuntu to run on05:21
MarcNrabeldable: I've not seen that.  paste and example.05:21
rabeldableok... nevermind it is a lowercase l05:21
b1n0rythomasamoht i don't know what it doesn't work with. it starts going fine then gives me a red screen that says that it failed "Entering Preinstalled Session"05:22
rabeldableit just looks weird.. i've never seen a lowercase l with hooks like a j05:22
thomasamohthuh05:22
rabeldableok new question.05:22
livindedMarcN: http://pastebin.com/42516205:22
shuvebXenguy, oh, ok - im no power user of vi05:22
b1n0rygord_: on the screen that came up with the choice of next step, one of the steps was to verify the cd media. ran that, and it tested fine. also checked the hashes.05:22
Xenguyshuveb: is it not working?05:22
rabeldablewhat does a lowercase l do when you add it to one of your column names like this  l.column_name05:22
MarcNlivinded: don't know.05:23
Xenguyshuveb: actually, instead of typing the 2 Ctrl-etc things, you can just press the Enter key :-)05:23
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codinhi05:23
Xenguyshuveb: that will reproduce the ^M05:23
MarcNrabeldable: nothing special, just telling which table to use.05:23
codinI use a live cd, how can I become root ?05:23
shuvebXenguy, oh yeah, that would be "\n"05:24
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Xenguyshuveb: OK, but that shouldn't be necessary for this search and replace05:24
robwcodin, sudo bash05:24
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shuvebXenguy, yeah i guess05:24
codinrobw, thanks05:24
robwnap05:24
Xenguyshuveb: is it working at all ?05:24
rabeldablelivinded:  try to run the dos2unix command at the command line05:24
shuvebwell i ran dos2unix first so i cant try it :(05:25
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MarcNrabeldable:  something like this;    select employee.name, jobcodes.title from employee, jobcodes where employee.surname = 'Smith';05:25
thomasamohtanybody know if i can define actions for buttons i press on my ati all in wonder remote? the remote works as a pointer, and volume control works, the launch buttons work for internet etc. but i want to configure the A-F buttons to run other programs. Anybody know of anything that could help me?05:25
rabeldableI've seen this prob before when trying to install and setup some stuff05:25
b1n0ryif you like, i could probably borrow the wife's digital camera and take a video or picture of what's happening05:25
livindedrabeldable: command not found05:25
rabeldablegreat05:25
MarcNrabeldable: well that is bogus SQL, but you get the idea?05:25
rabeldabledo you have vi and do you know how to use it?05:25
shuvebbut i've noted ur point05:25
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livindedrabeldable: me?05:26
rabeldableMarcN: bogus as in wrong?... the code works.05:26
rabeldableI just can't figure out what its doing05:26
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intelikeyshuveb what are you having markup trubble in ?05:26
codincan I temporarely install software if I use the livecd ?05:26
Xenguyshuveb: ok, it you need clarification though, just ask05:26
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rabeldableI think it may have something to do with limiting the amount of queries or special characters or something05:26
codinI need a serial line terminal: minicom05:26
Xenguys/it/if05:26
thomasamohtATI remote help? anybody have any experience with this?05:26
shuvebXenguy, yeah, and thanks05:27
rabeldableyeah, livended.. do you know how to use vi?05:27
rabeldableyou can  replace everything with vi05:27
MarcNrabeldable: but not what i intended,  select employee.name, jobcode.title from employee, jobcodes where employee.name='Smith' and employee.jobid = jobcode.jobid;  is closer to give a name and title for all people named 'smith'05:27
b1n0rygord_ or thomasamoht any ideas?05:27
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thomasamohtsorry man, i've never seen that before.05:28
rabeldablethats assuming that it has M$ style line breaks and such05:28
[linner] SEJeff:  geez louise... this takes forever!!!05:28
thomasamohtthere is a chance that your cd is messed.05:28
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SEJeff[linner] : what?05:28
whamHey there, I am kind of new to Ubuntu, and I can't find where the Firefox options thing is. I want to clear cookies, cache and disable history. It's in the tools menu in Windows.05:28
adri_hey guys05:28
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codinuse dos2unix to convert ^M to linux eof style05:28
blankI'm installing ubuntu now05:28
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MarcNwham: it would be in the firefox menus05:28
thomasamohtwham its in firefox preferences05:28
rabeldablewham: edit -> preferences05:28
Cindyis ldap can be install in Ubuntu?05:28
guilhermetotem-xine is the first that works ".wma" files, thanks all05:28
blankshould I use ext3 or reiserfs, I've heard better things about reiserfs05:29
b1n0rythomasamoht i dunno, i first loaded it up in a virtual pc and it worked ok (except for x doesn't work real well with vpc) so i booted up the whole system. that's when it had the problem. i did the media validation and compared hashes.05:29
intelikeyeof ?   :)05:29
wham@ Marcn, thomas, rabeldable, thanks!05:29
blankend of file05:29
Xenguyblank: ext3 is more stable AFAICT05:29
MarcNCindy: apt-cache search openldap05:29
blankreally, and reiserfs is just faster05:29
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blankso ext3 'stable' reiserfs 'faster'05:29
intelikeyyeah i know....  but ^M != EOF    ^M = EOL05:29
Xenguyblank: reiserfs is just riskier it seems :-)05:29
Agrajagpersonally, I've had ext3 partitions die on me left and right05:29
blankright? so I choose ext3 right now, kay thanks :D05:30
psusiI'm running reiserfs just fine ;)05:30
Agrajagbut have had zero problems with reiserfs in, oh, 3 or 4 years05:30
rabeldablereiserfs = faster fsck and bootup filesystem repairs05:30
SEJeffAgrajag: Bad hardware? ext3 is known to be more stable than reiser05:30
b1n0ryi've never had a problem with ext305:30
psusireiserfs is also supposedly faster all around05:30
[linner] SEJeff:  this install... for kubuntu...05:30
AgrajagSEJeff: I doubt it, exact same hardware05:30
blankman, comon I need to choose now, should I choose ext3 or reiserfs, just flip a coin05:30
psusiI'm about ot put that theory to the test05:30
rabeldableext305:30
b1n0ryext305:30
thomasamohti havn't ever had a problem with ext305:30
blank:D05:31
MarcNblank: doesn't matter for most people.05:31
psusijust shrunk my ntfs partition some more... going to make an ext2 partition and copy / to it and try booting off that05:31
blankthey're about the same thing right?05:31
intelikeyi'v never yet had any trubble with reiserfs or ext3   but i still use ext2 a lot alos05:31
intelikeyalso05:31
blankI've heard bad things about one of the ext's05:31
CindyMarcN: python-ldap, <--- can i use this as my server ldap?05:31
SEJeffAgrajag: Use bonnie++ to really stress it. I have killed more reiser volumes than ext3 playing with HD burnin05:31
thomasamohtif ubuntu guys thought one worked better, they would make it the default. Ext is the default, so i'd use it.05:31
blankcan you guys give me a comparison, reiserfs to ext305:31
AgrajagSEJeff: I don't have that hardware any more05:31
MarcNCindy: that is just a python library that can talk to an ldap server05:31
rabeldableunless your running some high available cluster and you need to save all of your writes in a transaction log05:31
Agrajagthis was years ago, I quit using ext after the third time05:31
blankthomasamoht: thanks05:31
weitzmanHey folks. I'm pretty new to linux/Ubuntu. I tried to "apt-get install ssh-krb5" but it fails 'cause openssh-client is installed. If I try to uninstall openssh, apt-get wants to remove lots of other stuff that's kind of important05:31
weitzmanAny ideas?05:31
intelikeyblank you'll never notice the differance in them.05:32
Agrajagthen I put reiser on the same partition05:32
blankloool, I know, that's why I'm asking05:32
rabeldableyou can use both if you want05:32
CindyMarcN: oic, now how can i install ldap server to my PC?05:32
MarcNrabeldable: always use a journaled file system if you can.05:32
weitzmanI noticed ssh-krb5 says it provides packages "ssh" while openssh-client provides "ssh-client"05:32
blankwhat do you think I should choose *flips imaginary coin* okay its ext305:32
blankthanks guys *goes back to other pc to select that*05:32
MarcNCindy: apt-get install slapd05:32
intelikeyther ya go  :)05:32
b1n0rywell, i'm going to head out. i got fedora working already, so i'll probably just stick with that. have a good one and thanks for trying to help thomasamoht and gord_05:32
MarcNCindy: probably want to also install ldapscripts, ldap-utils, etc05:33
blankguys, I have 38 gigs for my primary and 1.5 gigs for my swap, that's what it automatically made, is that good?05:33
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rabeldablehow much ram?05:33
MarcNgood night boys-n-girls.  Bedtime in my timezone.05:33
rabeldableram x 2 = swap05:33
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blank512, so I guess it's alright since I heard to make it 2-3 times that size05:33
blankyeah05:33
CindyMarcN: yes indeed, where can i find it?05:33
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blankso that's good right? it's only 2 partitions that it made, I dont need any more right05:33
Xenguyblank: yeh, that's fine, no sweat05:33
blankqtparted lets you resize partitions right?05:33
blankthanks bud :)05:34
blankor what was that program that let you do that05:34
blankgparted05:34
blankor something05:34
blankqeparted05:34
germanHello!!05:34
gord_gparted, yea it does05:34
rabeldablewhat kind of box will it be blank?05:34
MarcNCindy: apt-cache search ldap    give you a list of ldap related packages.  you just need to figure out which ones you may want.05:34
blanksomething like that (sorry for multiple lines)05:34
Xenguy!enter05:34
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!05:34
weitzmanAnyone have any ideas for how I can replace open-ssh with ssh-krb5 without uninstalling ubuntu-base in the process?05:34
blankrabeldable: desktop05:34
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blankbut I'd like to run some server things05:34
intelikeyha ha ha i'm running 98m ram and no swap   :)05:34
blankjust to try it out05:34
blankintelikey: lol05:34
thomasamohti have 1gig of ram, and my swap has never been over 50 mb, so having a 2gig swap seems pointless to me.05:34
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rabeldableif you think your server things will get out of control one day and log lots of stuff to fill up your partition then split the partitions up05:35
intelikeyand i do run kde in that environment05:35
blank...soooo...I'm alright right? primary = 38.8 swap = 1.505:35
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ebrgyhi05:35
thomasamohtbut those of you with less memory should have a good sized swap05:35
blank*presses enter on other pc*05:35
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SEJeffthomasamoht: I tune the kernel so I get virtually 0 swap. set vm.swappiness=10 in /etc/sysctl.conf05:35
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CindyMarcN: thanks once again, i will examine it05:35
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dooglusweitzman: you can't have ssh-krb5 and ubuntu-base installed at the same time05:35
thomasamohti don't want to break things jeff, i'm happy ;)05:36
dooglusweitzman: ubuntu-base depends on openssh-client, which conflicts with ssh-krb505:36
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dooglusweitzman: however, removing ubuntu-base isn't a bad thing to do05:36
SEJeffthomasamoht: echo 10 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness won't break anything05:36
SEJeffthomasamoht: And you can set it back to default by replacing 10 with 6005:36
intelikeyi always remove ubuntu base anyway....05:36
weitzmandooglus, what does ununtu-base do, exactly?05:36
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psusiSEJeff, even with a high swappiness though, the kernel doesn't swap unless ram is rather low... at least for me...05:36
LathropWellsthomasamoht, - google "linux swappiness" - i think you will like how adjustable it can be05:37
thomasamohtmeh swap is good to have just in case anyways05:37
weitzmandooglus, it has an important sounding name, at least ;)05:37
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thomasamohtif i ever do any video encoding again05:37
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P8ntKidHow to i start a .sh file?05:37
SEJeffpsusi: That is correct, but I like it to swap the very least amount possible without making the system unusable when it really needs to. That is why 10 is a good number05:37
rabeldableI like disabling swap it make web servers so much faster, no disk05:37
SEJeffP8ntKid: bash filename.sh05:37
intelikeyP8ntKid . file.sh05:37
psusiSEJeff, but when ram is low, it is good to free some up by swapping out junk that isn't needed05:37
dooglusweitzman: alternatively you could make a dummy packag05:38
rabeldableonce I setup a linux box with no disk...05:38
melvztechieHello, am having problems with my firefox browser, it always ask for mediaconnectivity wizard even i already finished setting it up. how can i disable the wizard?05:38
dooglusweitzman: sorry.  ubuntu-base is just a metapackage.  it keeps things installed.05:38
SEJeffpsusi: Not on a server, it makes everything grind to a halt05:38
thomasamohtwith over 1gig of ram though, its hard to fill.05:38
rabeldableonly ram and a CDROM with a custom linux OS  to boot from05:38
intelikeyif you want a secondary shell use sh/bash if you want to exec, it in the present use .05:38
thomasamohtfully loaded, gnome is just over 200MB for me05:38
P8ntKidSEJeff: Thanks05:38
rabeldablethat box was faster than one with a disk05:38
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thomasamohtharddrives are slow05:39
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thomasamohtonly like 133mb/s05:39
SEJeffintelikey: He was asking how to execute it. If the file doesn't have executable permissions, ./script.sh will give an error from bash05:39
dooglusweitzman: if you "dpkg -L ubuntu-base" you'll see the actual contents of the package - ie. not a lot05:39
psusidangit, where's the option that makes mke2fs decide between ext2/3?05:39
SEJeffintelikey: bash script.sh will always work05:39
CindyMarcN:  everything is broken packages....:(05:39
weitzmandooglus, Thanks for your help. Do you know if there's some way to manually remove a dependency you don't really need?05:40
Agrajagpsusi: -j05:40
psusiok, so just omit that and it will be ext2?05:40
Agrajagyes05:40
intelikeySEJeff i didn't say anything about ./blah   i said . file.sh   thank you.05:40
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weitzmandooglus, As in, remove from the ubuntu-base metadata05:40
dooglusweitzman: if it's a dependancy, you really need it, by definition of the word 'dependancy'05:40
KaoticEvilanyone used alien?05:40
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psusithere we go...05:40
psusinew filesystem made...05:41
dooglusweitzman: you can remove ubuntu-base (and ubuntu-standard) - then it's no longer a dependancy, so you can remove it...05:41
LathropWellskaotic, - yes but only a few times and every time with crossed fingers and held breath05:41
SEJeffintelikey: and . file.sh is incorrect. . file.sh is the command to source a script and load the functions in memory. The exact same as source file.sh05:41
[linner] It keeps installing... and installing... and installing..... like the friggin' energizer bunny....05:41
psusigreat thing about using the kernel mapper instead of conventional hard drive devices is you can repartition on the running system ;)05:41
KaoticEvilLathiat:  did it work?05:41
[linner] my god it must be installing the frickin' world on my laptop!05:41
SEJeff[linner] : Even worse, kde05:41
KaoticEvilLathropWells even... did it work?05:42
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[linner] SEJeff:  whatcha mean?05:42
thomasamohtyeh kde is insanely fat05:42
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LathropWellsKaoticEvil, - yes (knock-on-wood)05:42
thomasamohti <3 xfce :D05:42
[linner] thomasamoht:  really?  shozbot....05:42
necatorGOD THIS IS SO FRUSTERATING!05:42
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german[linner]  why KDE???05:42
necatori install prograams.05:42
necatorcant find any trace of where the hell they go05:42
rabeldableI wouldn't remove anything... just compile source of ssh-krb5, install it in a unique place like /usr/local/ssh-krb5 or something  and set your environment LD_LIBRARY_PATH appropriately when you want to use it05:42
necatorcant figure out the name to make them run in terminal05:42
[linner] german:  cause i couldn't get plain ubuntu on my system without it hanging at every boot05:42
[linner] german:  so i decided to install over it05:43
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KaoticEvilok... well, im only testing this package to see if it will install... i hope is runs...05:43
[linner] german:  with kubuntu05:43
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thomasamohteww kubuntu DIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiRT05:43
bonbonhowdy howdy05:43
[linner] thomasamoht:  err... it's still ubuntu dude05:43
KaoticEvilhey, i use kubuntu :P05:43
germanthats weird05:43
bonbon<--- Bonarges/Bonbon/TNTales05:43
thomasamohtyeh but its kde05:43
intelikeynecator tab completion in the term ?05:43
thomasamohtkde is dirt05:43
[linner] thomasamoht:  there are a lot of people who prefer it... you know?05:43
weitzmandooglus, Thanks man. I've successfully logged into a server using kerberos credentials05:44
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necatoris there not a way to get a list of the programs that i got?05:44
bonbonHiddenWolf, you in here? or Mustard?05:44
thomasamohtyeah i know, its just eyecandy though. almost all kde programs run in gnome05:44
LathropWellslinner - you can find a bunch of "lighter" options http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Desktops05:44
necatorcuss wtf is this i install somethign it has no icon or no way of telling me where it went so i got to guess and try to run it from terminal.05:44
germanI'm  a Gnome guy!!05:44
bonbonI was able to fix my error 1705:44
thomasamohtgnome or xfce if i feel like it05:44
KaoticEvilthomasamoht:  coming from windows, i think KDE is easier for a new linux user to get used to linux with... its very windows'ish05:44
LathropWellsgerman - Gnome is great.05:44
KaoticEvilin terms of LookNFeel05:45
cgcoreaanyone using ubuntu 5.10 in productions servers?05:45
psusihrm... cp doesn't have a --exlcude option?05:45
intelikeynecator if you want a list of all the executables try "ls /*bin /usr/*bin | less "05:45
germanYeah LathropWells05:45
thomasamohtsorta, i am relatively new to linux, i didn't think it was hard to pick up gnome05:45
rabeldableMarcN: I think i figured it out05:45
germanGnome is really amazing!05:45
rabeldablethe l means lowercase05:45
[linner] LathropWells:  oh okay... maybe if i can just get this running on my laptop... we'll see about the alternatives... cause right now i just want the darned thing running!05:45
KaoticEvilthomasamoht:  it all comes down to personal preference :)05:45
[linner] german:  i know... i use it right now on my desktop05:45
SEJeffnecator: dpkg -l in a terminal will show you all of the software installed on your ubuntu machine05:45
thomasamohti used to run suse with kde though i admit it looks really nice05:46
psusihow can I copy all files on a filesystem EXCEPT certain directories?05:46
LathropWellsxfce or gnome can look like Mac, Windows, or the evil haxor box from the movie "war games" - lol05:46
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thomasamohtlol05:46
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rabeldablepsusi: use tar with an exclude list05:46
thomasamohth4x0r box05:46
psusibut I don't want to put the files into an archive, I just want to copy05:46
LathropWellslol - i stile canned spel05:46
thomasamohtrecursive copy with expeptions05:46
thomasamohtcan you do that in terminal05:47
KaoticEvilwth is linthian?05:47
german[linner] , I have both KDE and Gnome in my Ubuntu, I prefer Gnome, but i'm running some KDE prgramas like amarok05:47
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rabeldablequickest way is to use tar and untar when you want... or fiddle with pipes to move the files around... but your on your own with that05:47
psusithomasamoht, how?  cp doesn't seem to have a --exclude option05:47
necatorbut seriously y dont they show how to run the stuff once its installed.05:47
KaoticEvillintian*05:47
intelikeythat may not get them all but it will keep you busy for a while,  and if you want to search in /usr/local/*bin  and /usr/share/*bin   and maybe even /usr/X*   there may be more.... necator05:47
thomasamohti <3 amarok. but you don't need kde to run it05:47
rabeldablei havent messed with ubuntu much so the file manager might work just fine from GNOME05:47
[linner] german:  right on... maybe once this bloated software gets loaded you can help me dump KDE and get GNOME back05:48
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SEJeffpsusi: use a pipe with grep -v. functionally, that would work the same as --exclude05:48
thomasamohtyeah --exclude05:48
thomasamohtthats what i was thinking of05:48
german[linner] , yeah!!05:48
[linner] german:  :) :) :)05:48
psusihrm... maybe I'll just use tar... how did you get tar to write to stdout again?05:48
german[linner] ,  i just didi it a few days ago05:48
rabeldableor you could put a list of files in a file and run a loop against it copying only the files you have in the list05:48
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SEJeffpsusi: tar czvf - directoryname05:49
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[linner] german:  very cool!05:49
[linner] german:  on a laptop?  a new laptop?05:49
wickedpuppynecator, if you get the source and compile ... it has readme ... that was how it was done last time ... you can also guess ... for example , firefox's command to run is likely to be "firefox"05:49
psusidon't need the z since I'll be piping it to a tar x05:49
germanthomasamoht, but amarok runs easier on KDE05:49
german[linner] , sorry in my pc05:49
Cindybrb everyone, il try to figure out how can i install my slapd05:49
[linner] german:  shooot05:50
psusitar cf -l --exclude=/var | tar x /mnt, should that work?05:50
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necatorso what would be a command for something called beneath-asteel-sky05:50
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rabeldablelike this:  for file in`cat file-list`;do cp $file /destination/dir/$file; done05:50
germanbut we'll try [linner]  , don't worry05:50
bonboncould someone tell me the dpkg install command real quick?05:50
necatori mean wtf? that hard to tell me command when its done installing or make an icon? i been searching for 10 minuts05:50
tielliotI am having a problem with GNOME On-screen Keyboard!05:50
wickedpuppynecator, type bene and tab .... you will see something05:50
doogluspsusi: nearly.05:50
thomasamohtamarok runs fine in gnome05:50
thomasamohtits fast, everything works good05:50
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bonbonit's like -i dpkg05:50
bonbonor something05:51
necatorwickedpuppy all i get is beeping05:51
grodiushow do i play .mov files in linux05:51
germanyeah, thomasamoht but i have some troubles to make it work, :P05:51
wickedpuppynecator, the app you installed is neneath-asteel-sky ?05:51
thomasamohttell grodius about w32 libs somebody05:51
thomasamoht:)05:51
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glynhey05:51
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necatorbeneath-a-steel-sky05:51
thomasamohtthats unfortunate german05:51
glynanyone know where I can find java help?05:51
thomasamohtsun microsystems site?05:52
thomasamohtgoogle it05:52
wickedpuppynecator, i never heard of it before ... links to download it ?05:52
thomasamoht:)05:52
gord_if you want beneath a steel sky you might as well just get it from the scummvm site05:52
gord_www.scummvm.org05:52
necatori got it thru synaptic05:52
gord_you need scummvm to run it05:52
necatoralong with like 9 other programs that i got no clue where the hell they are05:52
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thomasamohtwhat is that?05:52
germanyou know guys, in 8 minutes it's going to be MY BIRTHDAY (sorry for the caps)05:52
thomasamohtlol05:52
glyncool german05:53
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glynno channels for java help?05:53
gord_its an emulator, for old adventure games like monkey island n stuff05:53
Agrajagnecator: you need to run scummvm05:53
Agrajagyou already have that installed05:53
thomasamohtahahaha monkey island i used to play that game when i was 405:53
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thomasamohton our old 38605:53
germanmonkey island was a great game05:53
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germanvery funny05:53
thomasamohtand that  loom game05:53
foxgamerHi all.05:53
gord_me too, on my mates amiga. its very good. well worth playing again if you have it05:53
Agrajagthen you need to find the game files for the game itself, and tell scummvm to load it05:53
thomasamohtanybody play loom?05:53
geppyI downloaded a TTF font, installed it into ~/.fonts, and GNOME font viewer and Kfontviewer both display it correctly, but in GIMP and OpenOffice (1.1 and 2-beta), it looks just like the default font.  I'm not sure where to go from here.05:53
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foxgamerIs there a way to upgrade to 64 bit without actually re-installing the whole system?05:54
wickedpuppynecator, scummvm  has a channel in freenode ... go ask them how to run05:54
necatoromg05:54
necatori cant belive its so complicated to get one program to run05:54
doogluspsusi: make a list of stuff to exclude in /tmp/exclude, and then:05:54
doogluspsusi: tar cXf /tmp/exclude - . | (cd ~/tmp/to; tar xf -)05:54
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Agrajagnecator: it's not one program05:54
thomasamohtfoxgamer: no there isn't.05:54
thomasamohtlol05:54
AgrajagYou installed a scummvm image and sucmmvm05:54
german[linner] , how's the installation going???05:54
necatorso far i been loving everything about this linux05:54
psusiroot@ubuntu:/# tar cf - -l --exclude=/var --exclude=/home/phreak/music/ --exclude=/home/phreak/movies/ / | tar x05:54
tomajdoes anyone know of a color picker that doesnt involve starting up gimp?05:54
bunglepfffft to abstenace b4 marriage05:55
thomasamohti nuked my windows partition cause gnome is that sexah05:55
necatorbut like 6 programs ive gotten thru synaptic i cant find them anywhere05:55
psusiI think that should work if I run it from /mnt05:55
psusithat should copy everything to /mnt right?  if I run it from there?05:55
wickedpuppynecator, what are those programs ? stop complaining .. tell us what those programs are05:55
germanhahhaa thomasamoht05:55
thomasamohtenable universe repository u'll find lots of goodies05:55
foxgamerthomasamoht: No way at all? That's stoopid.05:55
locomortoDoes anyone have any reccomendations for linux software that makes a photo slideshow?05:55
tomajwindows is the only way to game with good performance05:55
tomajlocomorto try openoffice05:55
locomortotomaj: thats FUD05:55
doogluspsusi: you want to exclude /proc and /sys and /dev too05:55
tomajlocomorot: fud?05:56
wickedpuppy!fud05:56
ubotufud is probably [FUD]  Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. A marketing technique employed by those who do not trust in the merits of their own product. Also Fair Use Day.05:56
tomajlocomorto: fud?05:56
Agrajagfear uncertainty and doubt05:56
locomortotomaj: Fear Uncertainty Doubt05:56
thomasamohttomaj i have an xbox.05:56
psusidooglus, they are on different filesystems... I used the -l option to tar to tell it to only tar the one filesystem05:56
doogluspsusi: fine05:56
locomortotomaj: I was looking for something with more control05:56
doogluspsusi: my mistake05:56
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tomajlocomorto: flash?05:56
intelikeydooglus yeah probably but i backup /dev    ....05:56
bonbonquestion05:56
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bonbonubotu tar05:57
ubotubonbon: Are you smoking crack?05:57
tomajlol05:57
psusiok... I think it's working05:57
bonbonok, lol05:57
tomaji heart ubotu05:57
bonbonubotu install tar05:57
ubotubonbon: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about05:57
thomasamohttomaj i still use windows on my sisters comp, for the very few things that i can't do in linux.05:57
psusitar's moving everything in / to /mnt except for some big files and /var05:57
locomortotomaj: and what wpuld I use for the flash file?05:57
bonbonubotu tar install05:57
ubotuI haven't a clue, bonbon05:57
bonbondamn05:57
wickedpuppybonbon, ask us ... stop playing with the bot pls05:57
Agrajagbonbon: he only responds to triggers05:57
locomortoto make it that is05:57
ReleaseXi just installed networkmanager, but it doesn't seem to be working, there's no APs being found05:57
bonbonah, ok05:57
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tomajlocomorto: not sure about that, windows maybe lol05:57
bonbonI just wanted to find some links for how to install automatix05:57
locomorto:'(05:57
bonboninstead of bothering people05:57
tomajthomasamoht: i like pc gaming so i use windows for it cedega ams the suck05:58
psusihehe... I love being able to ctrl-z bg %1 then watch df05:58
theturtlanyone know of an app for synching ipod music, thats compatible with itunes db?05:58
doogluspsusi: don't you need to "cd" in there somewhere?05:58
KaoticEvildoes (k)ubuntu have SMP support?05:58
wickedpuppybonbon, how to install automatix ? install what ?05:58
blank tomaj: you use pc gaming for what05:58
psusidooglus, I just ran the command from /mnt05:58
germanhpe everybody here play STARCRAFT05:58
bonbonautomatix is like synaptic05:58
thomasamohti havn't been able to install wine or cedega because i'm on a x64bit installation05:58
blanktomaj: or you use what for pc gaming?05:58
doogluspsusi: ok, good.05:58
wickedpuppybonbon, then use synaptic05:58
thomasamohtwine won't run in x64 apparently05:58
bonbonah, good idea05:58
[linner] houston.... the kubuntu has ALMOST landed.....05:59
blankwickedpuppy: hey! :D05:59
doogluspsusi: but...  "tar x" will extract to absolute pathnames?  or not.05:59
thomasamohti used to play starcraft05:59
thomasamohtbut then i realized how gay it was.05:59
wickedpuppyheya blank :P05:59
thomasamoht:l05:59
psusiit seems not05:59
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tomajblank i used windows to play pc games because i like to play games on my pc05:59
tomajdoes anyone know of a color picker that doesnt involve starting up gimp?05:59
blanklol me too05:59
doogluspsusi: "tar: Removing leading `/' from member names" - ok05:59
germanthomasamoht, hahhaa,05:59
psusidooglus, aye05:59
[linner] it got all the way to the login screen then froze :(05:59
psusi1.5 gigs copied so far05:59
LathropWellsthomasamoht, - i was reading something about running wine in a chrooted environment.05:59
[linner] after i entered my login and pass05:59
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tomajthomasamoht play neverwinter nights05:59
bonboni don't seem to have synaptic on my comp :/05:59
tomajthomasamoht it ams the leet05:59
tomajlol bonbon05:59
wickedpuppybonbon, are you using ubuntu ?06:00
thomasamohtlathropwells i tried that didn't work at all.06:00
[linner] bonbon of course you do06:00
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intelikeybonbon me either.06:00
tomajsystem > administrator > synaptic06:00
german[linner] , ewhat login are u using?? Gnome or KDE06:00
tomajbonbon system > administrator > synaptic06:00
dooglusanyone know a website that will tell me the nearest place I can buy cigarettes at 6am?06:00
[linner] KDE06:00
wickedpuppydooglus, ebay06:00
thomasamohtit wouldn't compile at all even with the chroot06:00
bonboni found it, it was hiding :006:00
bonboni just used the terminal06:00
tomajdooglus: iwanttodieyoung.com06:00
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thomasamoht7/11 ?06:00
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dooglustomaj: it's too late for that!06:00
bonbontomaj, thanx06:00
smerchhi, is motif included in the ubuntu cd? thanks!06:00
LathropWellsthomasamoht, - If you are new to linux subscribe to cedega for a bit. - it is easier to use and you can always go back to regular wine06:00
[linner] german:  then it loads the desktop, the panel, etc...06:00
[linner] german:  and then freezes06:01
intelikeydooglus google.com06:01
psusi2 gigs copied06:01
tomajdooglus: rushmydeath.com06:01
Shadowpillarwhy is the upgrade process trying to remove totem?06:01
thomasamohti'll give cedega a try..06:01
tomajdooglus do you have to be dificult lol06:01
Shadowpillarquestion06:01
tkuphow does one submit a program for inclusion in the ubuntu distro?06:01
thomasamohti'm not that new06:01
Shadowpillarwhat kernel does breezy use?06:01
tomajthomasamoht it sucks06:01
[linner] german:  now it says KDE is up and running... but it's frozen06:01
wickedpuppytkup, #ubuntu-devel06:01
dooglustomaj: both domains are free...06:01
tomaj2.6.12 shadowpillar06:01
tkupwickedpuppy, thanks06:01
psusiShadowpillar, 2.6.1206:01
[linner] german:  this sucks major butt06:01
thomasamohti used to run suse a while ago06:01
tomajlol dooglus you should start a business06:01
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malvwhere can I find out how to get my wireless chipset working with ubuntu06:02
malvits a usb rt250006:02
german[linner] , what ubuntu 're u running 5.04??06:02
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dooglustomaj: I'm not sure it would be legal06:02
tomajdoglus: this is how great ideas start you know, bunch of geeks on irc making jokes06:02
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thomasamohtooooooooo usb wireless06:02
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thomasamohttoughie06:02
_DezEverytime i go to shutdown06:02
_Dezit logout of my user06:02
_Dezthen goes to root06:02
[linner] german:  i don't know... i think so.... it's an older disc for sure06:02
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tomajdooglus you're only providing information about shops that sell ciggies at certain hours06:02
tomajdooglus its only information06:02
thomasamohtyo can anybody explain to me why everytime i boot up, i need to reconfigure my network?06:02
thomasamohtlol06:02
[linner] german:  i just downloaded breezy but the thing is i don't know how to get the original ubuntu and now kubuntu off my system06:03
dooglustomaj: oh, i see.  I was thinking I would be providing a more general "early death" service06:03
Agrajagcan't you just upgrade from the CD?06:03
Shadowpillarwhat kernel does breezy use?06:03
psusi[linner] , just install breezy over them06:03
thomasamohtlinner just partition the disks you installed them on06:03
psusiShadowline, two people answered you already... 2.6.1206:03
tomajdooglus: well that can be for members only you could start an assasination site06:03
dooglustomaj: assisting the suicidal.  problem is, the only word-of-mouth advertising you get is from customers who you failed06:03
intelikeyinit 6  is  finishing without halt _Dez    but i have no clue why.06:03
[linner] thomasamoht:  I did... but i have multiple choices at the GRUB loader06:03
tomajdooglus then also get assasinatemyself.com and link to it too06:03
[linner] thomasamoht:  it doesn't look like it deleted the previous version06:03
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_Dezintelikey mine uses init 206:04
german[linner] , thomasamoht is right, then format you disk06:04
tomajdooglus: hahahahahaha you could force them to put you in their will06:04
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tomajand then tip the media of your own services06:04
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Shadowpillarpsusi: okay06:04
Shadowpillarpsusi: and it's shadowpillar06:04
opnsrcsfthey all06:04
psusiahh goody, tar copied 4.8 gigs for me06:04
thomasamohtlinner, unless you have a partition on the disk you want to keep, completely nuke the disk, and it will write over grub06:04
intelikeynot when you shut down _Dez06:04
[linner] german:  isn't that what it does automatically after it partitioins?06:04
SPCcrowwhat is a good program for watching Divx videos on ubuntu?06:04
[linner] partitions06:04
opnsrcsftwow, big channel06:04
thomasamohtSPCcrow get xine06:04
[linner] thomasamoht:  I do... i have windows on the other side that I use for work06:04
thomasamohtxine is the shit.06:04
tomajdooglus: i can tell bob2 isnt here because he would have kicked us long ago for this convo06:04
[linner] thomasamoht:  so that has to stay06:04
Shadowpillarpsusi: any reason why ubuntu keeps avoiding downloading it from cd?06:04
psusiit looks like it ignored my --exclude though06:04
psusiannoying...06:04
_Dezonly cmd that works correctly is sudo reboot06:05
thomasamohtumm you could edit the grub config.06:05
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tomajdooglus: you could tip the media of your services then offer them free service as a thank you06:05
jrsimsis there a way to make Gnome remember window positions?06:05
dooglustomaj: not only bob2; any op I should think.06:05
blankyay I'm done installing everyone! I'm updating right now! :D06:05
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[linner] thomasamoht:  i don't know how to do that... let me burn the new breezy iso and see if you can walk me through it06:05
WBMJIneed some help06:05
[linner] blank:  consider yourself lucky my friend06:05
tomajdooglus: good point but ive only felt the wrath of bob206:05
LathropWellsxine, ogle,mplayer, xmms, and my favorite basic player VLC   videolan06:05
blank:) :) :)06:05
german[linner] , if you have a windows partition leave it, but format the partition fotr breezy06:05
intelikey_Dez did you try 'sudo /etc/init.d/halt ' ?06:05
tomajspeaking of which, does anyone know of a good color picking program that isnt gimp?06:06
[linner] german:  how do i do that?06:06
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thomasamohti dunno linner i usually just nuke all my partitions cause all my music/vids/files are backed up onto another computer06:06
blankI have a whole new HD now! I can install like...all these things! :D :D :D06:06
wickedpuppy[linner] , you didn't install the linux on ya computer ... did you ?06:06
dooglustomaj: for picking colours off the screen like an eyedropper tool?06:06
psusiwell, off I go to boot off the new ext2 partition and see how fast it is compared to resiserfs06:06
[linner] wickedpuppy:  yeah i did...06:06
tomajdooglus no just picking a color from the range and it giving me the hex of it for webdesigning06:06
[linner] wickedpuppy:  on a second partition06:06
blankhey isn't there a window manager/theme that is run by OpenGL?06:06
thomasamohtext3 you mean?06:06
_Dezstill does to root shell intelikey06:06
[linner] thomasamoht:  yes06:06
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wickedpuppy[linner] , you did ? then the process is still the same ...06:06
thomasamohtdon't install the root onto an ext2.06:06
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tomajblank yes there is let me get the link06:07
german[linner] , you sould need a swap partition too (ask abput that, i have one, but don know in a laptop)06:07
[linner] wickedpuppy:  what do you mean?06:07
intelikeythomasamoht and why not?06:07
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[linner] german:  i had a swap partition06:07
tomajwell blank it uses the gpu only pretty much06:07
[linner] german:  actually still do06:07
thomasamohtbecause its not journalled06:07
[linner] thomasamoht:  huh?06:07
tomajblank http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:M4e-wHfL0_8J:www.enlightenment.org/+enlightenment&hl=en06:08
thomasamohtif you shut it off wrong/power outage, there is no recovery method06:08
wickedpuppy[linner] , back up everything ... and install brezzy over the old linux .. and put back ya data .. simple06:08
tomajblank enlightenment.org doesnt seem to work for me06:08
tomajblank it's still in early stages though06:08
thechitowncubsmy capture card seems to be supported by tvtime but I can't tell if its working properly, what can I look at to see log messages from it?06:08
thechitowncubsits an SAA7134 decoder06:08
[linner] wickedpuppy:  back up everything?  on windows???  that partition shouldn't be touched so there should be any back up necessary06:08
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blanktomaj: oh okay thanks :)06:08
[linner] wickedpuppy:  it's only the linux part that i've got a problem with... AGAIN!06:08
intelikeyno but you probably don't want to recover the 49% of that file you were saving anyway.....06:08
wickedpuppy[linner] , then install breezy over the second partition ...06:09
SPCcrowdoes gmplayer do divx?06:09
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germanhaha06:09
LathropWellsthechitown - hi, - having a struggle with a saa7133 card here.06:09
thomasamohtall mplayer does divx06:09
SPCcrowcool06:09
thomasamohtbut mplayer is messy06:09
thomasamohtxine is good trust me06:09
thomasamohtk or don't listen to me..06:09
thomasamoht:l06:09
rabeldableanyone know of a media player that will search through the internet for people streaming music?06:09
dooglustomaj: what about "kcoloredit - a color palette editor and color picker for KDE" ?06:09
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thomasamohtsearch the internet...06:10
tomajthanx dooglus i'll try it06:10
bonbonrabeldable,  it's called live365.com06:10
bonboninternet radio dude :)06:10
El-Presidentehello, I have setup postfix with courier imap and pop3 however when I use an email client to send an email I get any email back saying it could not be delivered, however if I telnet to the smtp server on my server I can send mail.. any ideas?06:10
[linner] if this keeps up, i'm going to have to try suse06:10
german[linner] , there is an option to format the partition, then it should work (I installed my ubuntu 4 times)06:10
dooglusthomasamoht: messy?  what do you mean?06:10
intelikeyyes i like kcoloredit.06:10
thomasamohtrabelable try shoutcast. its good.06:10
rabeldablelinner... whats wrong?06:10
[linner] german:  i thought i chose that the lst time06:10
thechitowncubsLathropWells, what have you found out?06:10
thomasamohtmplayer is dirty man.06:10
rabeldableshoutcast runs on linux?06:10
[linner] rabeldable:  more like what ISN'T wrong06:10
rabeldablehehe06:10
bonboni've started using itunes in windows for subscribing to podcasts06:10
thomasamohtshoutcast runs in lots of music programs06:10
rabeldableoh I cc06:11
[linner] rabeldable:  kubuntu freezes everytime i login06:11
thomasamohtbonbon download iPodder06:11
bonbonoooh06:11
thomasamohtu'll like that.06:11
bonbonkk06:11
blankhttp://tyr_7be.tripod.com/ second picture, is that beagle running on ubuntu?06:11
rabeldablewhat kind of system is it linner?06:11
bonbonI am quite enamoured with itunes06:11
[linner] rabeldable:  i couldn't get ubuntu base to even get to a login point... so i tried to install kubuntu06:11
thomasamohtitunes is gay.06:11
bonbonis that one i can apt-get?06:11
thomasamohtamarok will manage ur ipod06:11
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bonbonwell, xmms doesn't work well06:11
thomasamohtbonbon. use amarok.06:12
skalpelcan someone tell me the keyboard shortcut to change my screen resolution?06:12
thomasamoht:06:12
thomasamoht:)06:12
bonbonand I don't have an IPOD i have MuVo from Creative06:12
LathropWellsthechitowncubs, - the module loads and i can configure different switches for it to load with but nothing plays06:12
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thomasamohtOOOOOOOOOOOOOo bonbon06:12
[linner] rabeldable:  READY?  It's a Compaq v2000z with an AMD Turion 64, 2 GB Ram with a Broadcom WLAN and ATI 200M video card06:12
thomasamohti have a creative zen micro06:12
thomasamoht:)06:12
thomasamohtdownload gnomad206:12
bonbonkewl, I'm too poor atm06:12
opnsrcsfthow do I change the default font size for Ubuntu?06:12
opnsrcsftI just installed it06:12
thomasamohtor the other one06:12
intelikeysomebody said beep music player06:12
bonbonwould like to try a zen micro06:12
[linner] rabeldable:  all the no-no's ... that one shouldn't have when trying to load linux06:12
opnsrcsftand it's way too small06:12
thomasamohtbon bon they are nice.06:12
thechitowncubsLathropWells, what is the module, is it built in ubuntu?06:13
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rabeldablewhat kind of monitor?06:13
bonbonI wish my video card supported resolutions highter than 102406:13
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LathropWellsthechitowncubs, - i got the module from bytesex.com site06:13
thomasamohtlol!06:13
[linner] rabeldable:  it's a laptop... so it's a flat panel06:13
rabeldablei just got ubuntu to run on a new toshiba M65-S9065 laptop...06:13
thechitowncubsLathropWells, alright06:13
opnsrcsft????06:13
opnsrcsft17 inch06:13
LathropWellsbinary06:13
Myrttibonbon: your video card or your screen?06:13
opnsrcsftbut everything is so small06:13
opnsrcsftHow do i change it?06:13
thomasamohtare you running gnome?06:14
thomasamohtgo to preferences06:14
RedRoseif i want to delete a bunch of files from my system, would it be rm -rf /<here>*06:14
bonbonMyrtti,  I can't get is to run in a larger size06:14
RedRose?06:14
thomasamohtthen screen resolution06:14
bonbonthe slider won't go past 102406:14
MyrttiRedRose: NO!06:14
opnsrcsftuhm....06:14
bonbonit is a laptop though, 15-inch screen06:14
skalpeldoes anyone know the refresh rates for an ic power 19" flat screen monitor? i cannot find it anywhere on the net06:14
rabeldablelinner:  try this link I wrote some documentation for what I had to do to get my laptop to work with Xorg.06:14
RedRoseMyrtti:Lol, i ment here as in file06:14
rabeldablehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=476609&postcount=11206:14
RedRosebut what do you suggest?06:14
thomasamohti'm runnint at 1280x102406:14
opnsrcsftactually I found font06:14
opnsrcsftthanks06:14
opnsrcsftIt's under system06:14
opnsrcsftthanks06:14
Myrttibe careful what ever you do06:14
blankcan beagle run on ubuntu?06:14
thomasamohto06:14
thomasamohtno prob06:14
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[linner] rabeldable:  i'll try anything at this point... let me go take a look06:14
thomasamohtbeagle..06:14
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Myrttibrb06:15
RedRoseMyrtti:Ok, I'll Admit it, I did that and it crashed, caught it, but not before it ate the init.d06:15
opnsrcsftThere we go06:15
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opnsrcsftNow I need to figure how to configure Xchat06:15
bonbondoes anyone know a site that can tell me how to properly mount partitions?06:15
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thomasamohtxchat doesn't take any configureing man06:15
thomasamoht:l06:15
bonbonlike I made a big partition06:15
MyrttiRedRose: now what exactly are you trying to delete06:15
bonbonto share media files between windows and linux06:16
skalpelcan someone tell me where 'vertrefresh' and horizsync' go in my xorg.conf file?06:16
thomasamohtbonbon06:16
bonbonand I don't remember how to mount06:16
thomasamohtjoin #mount06:16
LathropWellsthechitowncubs - if you have any inspiration let me know. i am thinking an external tuner would have better reception and hauppage seems to be best supported.06:16
bonbongracias06:16
RedRoselibssh06:16
germanskalpel, let me take a look06:16
thechitowncubsLathropWells, alright.06:16
thomasamohtbonbon #mount06:16
Myrttiwhy?06:16
thomasamohtnow06:16
opnsrcsft:(06:16
opnsrcsftSo I can't increase font size on Xchat?06:16
opnsrcsftit has to stay small?06:16
tomajdooglus that was exactly what i was looking for thanx heaps06:16
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[linner] rabeldable:  very impressive06:16
RedRosecause there's a conflict in hydra, so i want to purge all the files, then reinstall it06:16
Myrttidon't do it that way06:16
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rabeldablei took me all night with trying many different configs to get it to work06:17
[linner] rabeldable:  so... i'll try it again... i'll write over everything with breezy... have to burn the ISO... will you be on for a while?06:17
RedRosehow would i delete files that are scattered all around like that?06:17
rabeldablebut i'm using it now and it works great06:17
intelikeyskalpel if you use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '  it will put them in the correct place06:17
[linner] rabeldable:  unfortunately, i don't have that luxury tonight... i have to work in the morning :(06:17
MyrttiI need more coffee...06:17
rabeldableprobably not06:17
[linner] rabeldable:  what wlan do you have?06:17
skalpelintelikey: thank you06:17
malvwell, had to hack one line in the source code, but I got the usb wireless driver to compile06:17
RedRoseMyrtti:LOL06:17
rabeldableemail me: rabeldable@gmail.com06:17
malvthis is a great day for mankind06:17
intelikeyskalpel np06:17
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RedRoseMyrtti:Do You know any way?06:17
tomajrabeldable: are you that desperate to meet people?06:18
[linner] rabeldable:  you're a dear... thank you so much!06:18
MyrttiRedRose: yup, but that might result in dependency problems06:18
[linner] tomaj:  easy... he's helping me06:18
tomajlinner: humor06:18
[linner] tomaj:  is that what that was??? *grin*06:18
opnsrcsftuhm... no fonts on X-chat06:18
blankanyone know any good 'milky white' themes for gnome?\06:18
rabeldableoh yeah i'm a regular irc whore06:18
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RedRoseok, what if it's not a file like that, but let's say a log file06:18
[linner] rabeldable:  heheheeh...06:18
skalpelhow much is 256mb in kb?06:18
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RedRosejust in general how would i delete a bunch of files like that?06:19
[linner] by the way rabeldable... i called you dear because I'm a girl :)  so don't take offense :)06:19
rabeldablei don't know what type of wlan card I have, I think its intel but i have to check and i'm in the middle of some other things06:19
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blankdoes beagle the search thing run on ubuntu, I mean, can it06:19
Myrttiwell with logfiles you wouldn't do it with apt-get remove --purge <program>06:19
RedRosei know...06:19
[linner] rabeldable:  that's ok... mine is a big no-no linux card... broadcom :(06:19
RedRosei know about apt-get --purge...06:19
rabeldableno problem...06:19
RedRosebut i am talking about if there wasn't apt06:19
cnolesI can't get o the net from ubuntu06:19
shadowlandsgreetings world, can anyone anwser a sound related question on ubuntu please?06:19
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rabeldableit might work linux has came a long way its really good06:20
cnolesany ideas06:20
Myrttitry to be more precise with the path to the files that you are trying to delete06:20
Myrttiwith rm -rf06:20
dooglustomaj: did you see the colour selector in 'inkscape'?  that's quite nice too06:20
germanskalpel, Section "Monitor"06:20
germanIdentifier"SyncMaster"06:20
germanOption"DPMS"06:20
germanVertRefresh 50-16006:20
germanHorizSync 30-7006:20
germanEndSection06:20
RedRoseyeah, i'vve learned that06:20
garychello folks06:20
Myrttithank you06:20
_Dezim running server shell how do i get it to load startx06:20
_Dezwhen it boots06:20
Myrttitry pastebin next time06:20
RedRosei'm reinstalling my system now06:20
garycI am configuring my router06:20
opnsrcsftHow do I make Ubuntu support a higher refresh rate06:20
concept10anyone experience 100% CPU spikes when browsing flash sites in firefox?06:20
opnsrcsftit only supports 6006:20
Myrttiubotu, tell opnsrcsft about xorg06:20
gord_100% cpu spiking isn't anything to be worried about06:21
tomajdooglus: i dont use inkscape on linux06:21
dooglustomaj: ok06:21
Myrtti<3 inkscape06:21
germansorry i can't help you [linner] 06:21
opnsrcsftwhere do I get Xorg?06:21
cnolescan I get some networking help? I am unable to ping my router (or do much of any thing else  :{(}06:21
tomajyeah inkscape is leet i just use in on windows because i have photoshop in windows06:22
shadowlandshey cnoles, whats the ip#06:22
thechitowncubsLathropWells, HOLY SHIT06:22
tomajopnsrcsft its on your computer already if you use ubuntu06:22
cnolesip of?06:22
dooglusopnsrcsft: use 'apt-get' or 'synaptic' to get 'xserver-xorg'06:22
cnolesthe router06:22
garycgerman, I am configuring my router to do ftp port 20 - can you help06:22
cnoles192.168.1.106:22
LathropWellscnoles - what type of connection? what type of connection hardware?06:22
thechitowncubsLathropWells, it f'ing works, i got my camera plugged in through composite06:22
opnsrcsftthanks06:22
shadowlandswhat you want pinged06:22
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intelikeyhmmm ub has my cdrom drive fubar'd ..... it wont eject and it wont mount...06:22
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cnolesumm06:23
LathropWellsthechitowncubs - Nice!06:23
germangaryc, I'm sorry I can't but someone here must know06:23
cnoles3c0m nic ...network everywhere router (linksys)06:23
rabeldablewhat kind of router garyc?06:23
shadowlandscnoles, you realise thet the 192 series is on your local network and not the www06:23
cnolesyes06:23
[linner] german:  no dear... it06:23
[linner] german:  it's fine... really... i've been having these problems since i was first introduced to Ubuntu06:24
garycrabeldable, Linksys06:24
DR_K13lol inst06:24
shadowlandshow many machines do you have on your lan?06:24
LathropWellsthechitowncubs - did you find a helpful HowTo"?06:24
cnolesbut I cannot even ping my network that is the problem. I am on our other computer right now06:24
[linner] german:  i was hoping that Breezy would fix it.... it hasn't I don't think.  We'll see... I'm burning a new ISO.  Thanks though!06:24
rabeldableare you trying to ftp to your router? or ftp through your router to some other system?06:24
german[linner] , keep trying06:24
cnoles206:25
[linner] german:  oh i will... i believe in the product... and I believe even more in the community!!! :)06:25
cnoles2machines on my lan if that was to me06:25
ale8onehey, has anyone had problems with installing x86-64 dvd iso on dual boot? grub takes forever to boot and ubuntu never loads?06:25
[linner] german:  my goal is to get rid of windoze all together an run linux.... ubuntu specifically06:25
nalioth[linner] : howdy06:25
thechitowncubsLathropWells, it worked out of the FRICKING BOX06:25
intelikeywhat kind of crap is this? E: Package bc has no installation candidate06:25
thechitowncubsthis is sooooooooooooooo amazing06:25
german[linner] , yeah, is awesome, thats my goal to!!06:25
blankanyone know of a program that lets you convert AVI files to DVD format so you can watch them on a dvd player?06:25
LathropWellsthechitowncubs - That is Outstanding! :)06:26
crimsunintelikey: it's in main06:26
[linner] nalioth:  hello honey! :)06:26
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[linner] german:  i'm glad to hear it :)06:26
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[linner] nalioth:  what's up dude? :)06:26
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german[linner] , but i'm new to linux (used to run mandrake) so it will be a long journey06:26
german[linner] , hahahah06:27
garycrabeldable, on the port forward page there are two boxes  "blank to blank" like it is a range.  I thought it was just port 2006:27
intelikeyah yeah and it's got my cd drive fubar'd so no main.....  mehh06:27
[linner] german:  I'm not used to anything linux... so we're in the journey together!06:27
LathropWellscrimsun AND nalioth a lot of computer setup problems are going to be solved.06:27
naliothLathropWells: whose computer?06:27
LathropWellsHi guys!06:27
german[linner] , excellent!!06:27
[linner] german:  :)06:27
rabeldableftp is port 2106:27
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german[linner] , cos i don'k know a lot of people here that ru Ubuntu...06:28
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skalpel_can someone tell me what section 'vertrefresh' and 'horozsync' go under in my xorg.conf file?06:28
[linner] german:  where's "here"?06:28
LathropWellsCan i nalioth "Audit" your professorial level class?06:28
german[linner] ,  here is Lima-Per!!06:28
LathropWells;)06:28
rabeldabledid you try the monitor section? skalpel_06:28
intelikeyah i finnally got atapi reset...06:28
[linner] german:  this is the best user group in the world... not exaggerating either... everyone here helps each other06:28
garyccnoles, hey I just had to power my router and cable modem down then power up the modem wait then power up the router06:28
[linner] german:  oh wow!!!  I'm in the USA...06:29
crimsunskalpel_: Section "Monitor", as rabeldable said06:29
german[linner] , hope you know where Lima - Peru is06:29
german[linner] , hahhaa06:29
[linner] german:  Of course!  Though I don't do well with most geography... I do know where Lima is.06:29
german[linner] , where in Usa?06:29
naliothLathropWells: i'm not following you, perhaps you could explain to me in #kubuntu-offtopic06:29
garyccnoles, also I had to push the reset button on the router06:29
cnoleshmmm.. I am on the windows machinre here and I can see my puter on the dhcp client table06:29
[linner] german:  California....06:29
cnolesI did reset the router06:30
LathropWellsnalioth - er - that was a weak try at humor - nvm - Glad you are here.06:30
german[linner] , it must be beatifull, have you evere traveled yto south america??06:30
intelikeyhow much differance in mawk and gawk ?06:30
[linner] german:  why don't you join #ubuntu-offtopic... we'll talk about it there... ok?06:31
[linner] german:  they like to stay on topic here06:31
german[linner] , ok06:31
[linner] :)06:31
rabeldablethanks linner06:31
crimsunintelikey: mawk tends to be smaller & faster06:31
[linner] rabeldable:  of course :)06:31
intelikeycrimsun at the expence of some functionality ?06:32
crimsunintelikey: yes, due to compile-time configuration06:32
cnolesbut trying to ping the ubunto box from this machine times out06:32
thechitowncubsLathropWells, THIS IS REALLY COOL06:32
thechitowncubsLathropWells, have you tried installing tvtime?06:32
intelikeycause i'v got a calculator i wrote in gawk but when it uses mawk it craps out on me...06:32
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rabeldableit probably has something to do with the special characters intelikey06:33
crimsunintelikey: mawk doesn't support all the gnu extensions to 1003.206:33
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Knelix2Guys, -06:34
skalpel_how do i rename a file?06:34
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intelikeyyes that would probably be it.06:34
dduckoskalpel, mv06:34
nemikso has anyone installed skype successfully?06:34
nemiki get an unmet dependency06:34
rabeldableyou don't rename files in *nix you move them with mv06:34
dduckoskalpel, mv currentname newname06:34
intelikeyskalpel mv file newname06:34
intelikeyrabeldable which in affect only renames them anyway....  :)06:35
wickedpuppyactually awk seems to have mawk , gawk , nawk .... sed has sed .... weird huh ?06:36
Knelix2Guys, I've got a small problem here. I am using an Nvidia GForce card with RCA video output... I want it to automatically mirror to the TV output, because I need to use the monitor for something else. Now all text at bootup and shutdown shows up fine on the TV, but at startup, right after all the text, in fact just at the NVIDIA logo, the TV output switches off. What is going on, and how could I remedy this?06:36
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DR_K13bad tv?06:37
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=== wickedpuppy spanks the tv ... bad boy ... bad boy
Knelix2DR_K13: I don't think so.06:37
DR_K13was a joke,  a bad one at that06:38
skalpel_does anyone happen to know the refresh rates for an ic power 19" flatscreen monitor?06:38
rabeldableintelikey: true... I suppose someone could setup an alias called rename that actually runs the mv command06:38
Knelix2It seems an odd coincidence that it stops outputting at the first graphic... oh, ha...06:38
intelikeyfuntion rename {mv $* }06:39
wickedpuppyrabeldable, and you run 'rename file' and the file disappeared ... then how ?06:39
wickedpuppyeh wait06:39
wickedpuppythere will be error then06:39
Knelix2Could this be a limitation of the NVIDIA driver, or what? Should I revert to another driver, or maybe modify driver settings?06:39
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intelikeyKnelix2 welcome to linux where you own your software not just rent a license to use it....06:41
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rabeldablewell hopefully if you only put one argument the output would be like this:06:41
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rabeldableroot@dlap:/tmp# mv file06:41
rabeldablemv: missing file argument06:41
rabeldableTry `mv --help' for more information.06:41
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Knelix2intelikey: Heh, so I know.06:41
blankthis happened when I opened an AVI file06:42
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Knelix2But this one does not strike me as so tough of an issue, simply because it DOES output to the TV at startup.06:42
blankwell, it said that I needed plugins06:42
blankanyone know what plugins i need to play avi files06:42
wickedpuppyblank, get vlc06:42
blankpackage name06:42
blank?06:42
wickedpuppyvlc ?06:43
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blank:)06:43
deFryskvlc yes06:43
wickedpuppyblank, sudo apt-cache search vlc06:43
deFrysk!info vlc06:43
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB06:43
wickedpuppysearch there first ... or synaptic ...06:43
intelikeysudo to search ?????06:43
wickedpuppyno need sudo ?06:43
LathropWellsKnelix - i really know very little about sending output to a TV only that the refresh rate has to be set perfectly or strange things happen. (possibly damaging your TV)06:44
wickedpuppynormally i use sudo for all apt-*06:44
EdLinwickedlester, apt-cache doesn't need sudo06:44
deFryskwickedpuppy, no need sudo06:44
intelikeyno not to search or show06:44
wickedpuppyah i see06:44
intelikeyonly need sudo to install or remove06:44
deFrysksearch is not an administrative task06:45
wickedpuppyhmms .. that means my fingers are good at typing sudo ... not good06:45
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derekSdoes ubuntu come with a graphical cron wizard?06:46
intelikeyone would certenly expect so06:47
dirksonHey all. I'm trying to recompile my kernel and getting a funky error message my nvidia card. (Says it can't load the nvidia module, but I compiled the kernel with all the nvidia modules I could find) Could anyone help me out? :-/06:47
wickedpuppythere is kcron06:47
dirkson*error message with my nvidia06:47
Knelix2hmm.06:47
wickedpuppyalso gcrontab06:47
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rabeldabledid you download the nvidia driver from the nvidia website?06:48
Knelix2Its seems to output fine in terminal mode. It's just X that doesn't show.06:48
dirksonHmm....... No. Do I need to? *grin*06:48
solidgroovehow long is ubuntu going to make me use nvidia 7667?06:48
rabeldableyeah they have an updated one on their webste06:48
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rabeldableyou need to download it and read the docs06:48
derekSwickedpuppy: thanks06:48
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rabeldablenvidia has good linux support06:49
dirksonOk. That might help. Any chance you know about how big it is? My internet connection will barf if I try to download anything over about 1 meg. (This is why I need to recompile)06:49
EdLinsolidgroove, until you install the nvidia-legacy packages. :-)06:49
wickedpuppynp derekS06:49
rabeldableits like 1 - 5 MB06:49
Knelix2Newbie Question: I use the terminal, but usually in X. Toi run a new process I just open a new terminal window, but how can you run to processes in terminal mode?06:49
rabeldablesmall06:49
solidgrooveEdLin, where can I get nvidia-legacy?06:49
Knelix2(console mode)06:49
tsumewow. I didn't realize qemu was faster than vmware for cases of using it for photoshop or photoimpact06:49
tsumevmware's redraw support just really sucks06:49
rabeldablenvidia has old stuff on the same site06:49
Knelix2*two proceses, that is06:49
dirksonOk. Looks like I'll be booting into that other OS to download it. Drat. Thanks for the info guys!!06:50
wickedpuppyKnelix2, &06:50
rabeldablejust go to their website and in the search put linux06:50
EdLinsolidgroove, it's in the standard Ubuntu repositories.06:50
tsumedirkson: Microsoft Windows?06:50
tsumedirkson: ME? :D06:50
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dirksonTsume: Micro$ucks Windoze xp. It runs my internet card natively, and will download large files with it06:51
Knelix2so typing: sudo /home/Knelix/Desktop/gabe/FAH502-Linux.exe & /home/gabe/Desktop/Knelix/BOINC/run_client06:51
Knelix2Will run both those apps?06:51
dirksonI need to update to 2.6.13 at least to get good support for my card.06:51
Knelix2At the same time?06:51
wickedpuppyKnelix2, exe ?06:51
EdLinsolidgroove, linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`-nvidia-legacy and nvidia-glx-legacy06:52
naliothKnelix2: one after the other, yes06:52
Xenguyexactly -- digital restrictions management06:52
Xenguyww06:52
intelikeyis there a way to alter the output format of dpkg -l  so that only the package name and not the descriptions are shown ?06:52
naliothKnelix2: if your linux is smart enough to run .exe files06:52
Knelix2wikedpuppy: yes they name it that way, but it's really a UNIX executable.06:52
derekSdoes this crontab command make sense: wget -q -O /dev/null \ "some website"   t get it to dl some website06:52
derekSor load it06:52
derekSbut not dl it06:52
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Knelix2nalioth: It runs fine normally.06:52
derekSor is there a better way06:52
dirksonTsume: Why d'ya' ask?06:52
EdLinintelikey, maybe you could pipe it through awk using {print $1} or something. (Been a while since I played with AWK)06:53
Knelix2OK.. to get out of x I press alt-control-F3, but to get back?06:53
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intelikeyyeah but it keeps cuting the package names at about 12 chars.06:53
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wickedpuppyKnelix2, alt-crtrl-f706:53
EdLinintelikey, sorry, I forgot about that...06:53
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intelikeydoesn't output the full name06:53
skalpelis it possible to change my screen resolution in xwindows without knowing my monitors refresh rates, like windows does?06:54
wickedpuppyKnelix2, f1-f6 are terminals... f7 is X06:54
garycI think I got it.  Who has an ftp client to test my ftp server?06:54
Knelix2wickedpuppy: Ah, right, thanks.06:54
dirksonAnyway, time to reboot and download. Bye all, and thanks06:54
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Knelix2Q: when the terminal tells you you have new mail, is that e-Mail or messages from the system?06:54
garycI think I got it.  Who has an ftp client to test my ftp server?06:55
XenguyKnelix2: both are email06:55
wickedpuppyKnelix2, can be both ??06:55
intelikeyKnelix2 system usually when you login06:55
Knelix2hmm.06:55
wickedpuppyKnelix2, type mail ... and select the number of the mail you wanna read06:56
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Knelix2hmm. ok06:56
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garycI just setup my router for port forwarding.  Who would like the test it for me?06:56
rabeldablei'll test06:56
naliothKnelix2: that is system mail, usually, use mutt to see it06:57
Zealot87can someone give me the command that allows me to add resolutions06:57
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naliothubotu: tell Zealot87 about fixres06:57
Knelix2nalioth, hmm.06:57
garycI just setup my router for port forwarding.  Who would like the test my ftp server?06:57
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Zealot87thanks nalioth06:57
rabeldablewhats the IP?06:57
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Boobekhi/udv06:58
blankwickedpuppy: I searched for vlc, now what06:58
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wickedpuppywha real root ... not r00t or anything06:58
rabeldablegaryc: IP and 'll test06:58
wickedpuppyblank, install it and run avi with it06:58
naliothgaryc: please dont repeat such off topic stuff, we are not #troubleshoot or #test_hardware06:58
garycrabeldable, 24.174.170.9706:58
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rabeldableit works06:58
rabeldableroot@dlap:~# ftp 24.174.170.9706:59
rabeldableConnected to 24.174.170.97.06:59
rabeldable220 ProFTPD 1.2.10 Server (Debian) [192.168.1.102] 06:59
rabeldableName (24.174.170.97:root):06:59
garycrabeldable, 24.174.170.97  username=agora   password=agoramin06:59
rabeldablelogin works too06:59
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naliothrabeldable: please dont paste in here06:59
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garycrabeldable, thanks07:00
DR_K13Superkaramba////07:00
rain`Hi, I have two sticks of memory here, I was wondering how I could tell if they are non-ecc/ecc/unbuffered if I dont have a computer to put them in..07:00
blankcan I also play mp3s with it?07:00
blank:D07:00
Zealot87ahh, i missed ubuntu, its been a while07:00
rabeldableno paste?  where are the rules at? so I don't have to be told what I can and can't do.07:00
wickedpuppyblank, i think yes ... no idea ... why you wanna play mp3 in movie player ?07:00
DR_K13lol internets07:01
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intelikeyhmmm i was thinking that mc had a mail reader quality about it..... but i don't seem to find it now.07:01
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Knelix2So, wait... I can just use one terminal in say, F1 to run one app, and another in F2 to run another?07:01
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intelikeyyes you can07:02
Knelix2intelikey: Ha! Why didn't you say so-- that'll do just fine!!07:02
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naliothKnelix2: if you use 'gnu screen' you can run hundreds of terminal apps in f2, or f307:02
intelikeyand if you like you can enable the higher F# in /etc/inittab07:02
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blankwhere can I get mplayer07:03
naliothubotu: tell blank about mplayer07:03
erirlarhi, how can i change the permision on a directory to my home user?07:03
intelikeyapt-get install mplayer07:03
Knelix2nalioth: I don't want to complicate matters... This is just a temporary measure because I need the monitor for my main comp, shose CRT burned out.07:03
intelikeyerirlar permission or ownership ?07:03
erirlarownership07:04
intelikeychown username:usergroup inode07:04
naliothKnelix2: screen isn't complicated07:04
Knelix2nalioth: But thank you for the info... It has been noted. :-)07:04
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intelikeyneed sudoer permission if you don't already own it erirlar07:04
blankI have an AMD +2500, should I get mplayer-k6 or mplayer-58607:05
HrdwrBoBk607:05
intelikeyonly thing that i like about screen it the scroll buffer...07:05
theturtlsudo passwd07:05
theturtl;)07:05
erirlarintelikey, but how can i make it to be a ownership of erirlar?07:06
blank!ubotu tell me about ati binary drivers07:06
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blankor not07:06
naliothubotu: tell blank about ati07:06
intelikeyerirlar  ' sudo chown username:usergroup inode '  where the words username and usergroup  are "YOU" and inode is the file/directory name.....07:07
blankthanks nalioth07:07
cyphasewhy doesn't audacity play sound in ubuntu?07:07
erirlarintelikey, thanks :)07:07
blankhey, I cant find mplayer (so says synaptic), is there a repository I need? In the wiki it says multiverse, but I enabled each one I have07:07
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naliothblank: it's not "mplayer" it's mplayer-k607:08
blankyes, I did that07:08
blanksudo apt-get install mplayer-k607:08
DR_K13huh07:09
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kapputuHi07:09
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cowbudso for submiting bugs do I go to bugzilla or launchpad?07:09
kapputuhow do I set the workgroup name in Ubuntu?07:09
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varsebegdellohey i just installed ubuntu server, how do i get fluxbox going, i've allready downloaded it07:10
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intelikeyis there a good menu-driven cli mail client ?07:10
buckyuseranyone home?07:10
kapputunormally this is not silent07:10
blankI'm trying to get mplayer...please help, the wiki is very vague07:10
wickedpuppyintelikey, pine or mutt ?07:10
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Knelix2Q: And all terminals will continue to work even while in another terminal or in X?07:10
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wickedpuppyKnelix2, if you put the command in background with & yes07:11
varsebegdelloblank what have you done so far?07:11
intelikeyvarsebegdello use 'sudo apt-get install fluxbox '   and let dpkg install it for you.07:11
naliothblank: use synaptic. search for 'mplayer'07:11
varsebegdellowhat about xdm?07:11
intelikeysame07:11
blankI typed sudo apt-get install mplayer-k607:11
Knelix2wickedpuppy: huh? hmm... I didn't do that07:12
blankI already did the addingrepositorieshowto, so all my repositories are enabled, unless it wants me to have custom ones07:12
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intelikeyvarsebegdello if you use apt it keeps all the dependancies up to par and installs/configures things for you.07:12
buckyusernew to this here - trying to configure the network and getting a backend script error07:12
varsebegdellointelikey, i did that it installed, but i don't have gdm or anything like that, all i have is bare ubuntu, (i've also installed xserver-xorg07:13
wickedpuppyKnelix2, then go back to that terminal and see if its running ?? why you need f3 or f4 btw .. xterm or kterm not good enough ?07:13
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blanksomone please help me :( It seems as if I need an extra repository for mplayer07:13
kapputuhow do I access my Windows network?07:13
intelikeyso use startx and see if it works or not07:13
kapputudo I have to set my workgroup?07:13
blankkapputu: I'm not sure, but lookup samba07:13
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varsebegdelloblank, do you ahve a repostiory that said multiverse07:13
Knelix2wikedpuppy: But these are distributed computing projects, made to run in the background by default anyway. At least folding@home app seems to be working, acording to top.07:13
wickedpuppyblank, paste ya sources.list on the pastebin07:13
blankvarsebegdello: Taht's the one I'm trying to add, can you help me?07:14
blankgot a link to pastebin and the address to sources.list ?07:14
varsebegdellojust a seck07:14
blanksorry, I'm a noob07:14
Knelix2wickedpuppy: Because I need to output to TV, and only the terminal will do this, not X.07:14
dducko!paste07:14
ubotuI guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text07:14
wickedpuppyKnelix2, if default is background then fine :P07:14
intelikey!repos07:14
wickedpuppyblank, /etc/apt/sources.list07:14
blankwhere can I find , thanks07:14
blankhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/434107:15
buckyusercan someone answer a networking question?07:15
dduckoask away07:15
rabeldablei was thinking just open a direct chat with person that you paste to07:16
Knelix2wickedpuppy: OK :-) Just to know- you type the command and then & right after it to run it in the background, right?07:16
blankwickedpuppy and varsebegdello: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/434107:16
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wickedpuppyKnelix2, yes ... but default behaviour is in bg then no need07:16
thomasamohtcheers bonbon07:16
buckyuserI am trying toadd a wireless card and I get a backend script error when I go to the network configuration utikity07:16
bonbonyaay, now i just have to get wine running07:16
Knelix2ok07:16
bonbonty thomasamoht  :D07:16
wickedpuppyyes blank .. and no there is no extra repo07:16
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thomasamohtnight all07:16
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blankwickedpuppy: but then how come I cant find mplayer :(07:17
naliothblank: synaptic doesnt return any hits when you search for "mplayer" ?07:17
blanknope :(07:17
intelikeyjust turning on multiverse now.    what is the name of the automatic "uptodate" program in ub ?07:17
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jgrahami'm getting an error with libxaa, this is a fresh install of 5.10 x86-64, and my x server is wanting a version greater than 1.2... any ideas why this is happening?07:18
wickedpuppyblank, you want extra repo or asking if you have extra repo ?07:18
dduckoand blank watch your caps, should all be in lowwer case07:18
blanki get mga-vid-source package but that has nothing to do lol07:18
dduckoMplayer and mplayer are not the same thing07:18
blankdducko: what caps07:18
intelikeynalioth know the name of the program that runs automatic updates ?07:19
blankwickedpuppy: I'm asking if I need an extra repos to be able to get mplayer07:19
dduckoshouldnt, i believe its in the main repos07:19
wickedpuppyblank, you got universe but no multiverse ...07:19
ronnyzxjoin pls on #cagayan07:19
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thechitowncubsI need some help with audio07:19
ronnyzxjoin pls on #cagayan07:19
tritiumronnyzx, stop it07:19
blankwickedpuppy: THat's what I mean! how do I add multiverse07:19
wickedpuppy....07:19
wickedpuppy!repositories07:19
ubotuhmm... repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list07:19
ronnyzxy tirtium07:19
ronnyzxy tirtium07:19
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wickedpuppy...07:20
wickedpuppybye bye ronnyzx07:20
bluebloodwhats wrong with this fsb-line07:20
blueblood/mysmbserver/blueblood/media/sharesmbfscredentials=/root/.smbcredentials,dmask=777,fmask=7770007:20
thechitowncubsI have a capture card with audio out, and i put a dongle from that to my line in, i need some help with setting up the volume07:20
dduckoBye Bye ronnyzx07:20
naliothintelikey: i'm not familaer with it no07:20
rabeldable!rules07:20
blankwickedpuppy: I know, I already read that :( but it doesnt talk about multiverse does it07:20
uboturabeldable: Not a clue07:20
ronnyzxnoooooooooo07:20
tritiumronnyzx, because you're flooding the channel07:20
wickedpuppy!sources07:20
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:20
ronnyzxah ok07:20
intelikeyk07:20
ronnyzxim so sory titium07:20
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varsebegdelloblank, do you know how to add lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list?07:20
kapputuhow do I enable Windows networking in 5.10?07:20
ronnyzxim so sory titium07:20
ronnyzxim so sory titium07:20
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wickedpuppyno wait .. ronnyzx you are spamming as well .. and flooding ...07:20
tritiumronnyzx, please do stop07:20
dduckoBye Bye ronnyzx07:21
buckyusercan someone answer a networking question?07:21
x86ibuckyuser: Go ahead07:21
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linuxgeek2yes tell me buckyuser I will try my best07:21
linuxgeek2?07:21
naliothbuckyuser: if you ask a networking question07:21
ronnyzxyah07:21
rabeldableshoot bucky.....07:21
ronnyzxi wil07:21
ronnyzxi will07:21
kapputuhow do I enable Windows networking in 5.10?07:21
intelikeyohhh my i'm lagging really bad now if i say something that doesnt seem to make sense " [Lag 22]   "07:21
blankvarsebegdello: :( nope07:21
buckyusertrying to get a wireless card working and I get a backend script error when I try07:21
x86ikapputu: Install Samba07:21
kapputuit's installed07:21
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rabeldablewhats the error?07:22
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x86ikapputu: So then your having issues? what are you trying to do07:22
varsebegdelloblank you'll have to know how t use a console editing program07:22
blankI use gedit07:22
kapputuI'm trying to connect to my windows machine07:22
x86iblank: I recommend JOE, its a great console editor07:22
varsebegdellohey guys can blank open a file with gedit with sudo super powers?07:23
kapputudo I need to set the password for samba?07:23
varsebegdelloi prefer vi07:23
blankvarsebegdello: I already have :D07:23
wickedpuppyvarsebegdello, try yourself ... sudo gedit07:23
buckyuserwhen I click on the Network settings  it says 'configuration cannot be loaded - there was an error running the backend script'07:23
varsebegdelloohh07:23
blankI'm not that stupid lol, I just dont know where to add the lines, can I add them anywhere?07:23
varsebegdellolike i said i prefer vi07:23
x86ikapputu: Yeah, you need to make sure that Samaba is on the same workgroup as your windows box.07:23
intelikeyyep07:23
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rabeldablewho are the bots on this thing?07:24
concept10is Flashplayer 8 avail for Linux?07:24
x86iconcept10: Not to my knowledge.07:24
wickedpuppyrabeldable, on what thing ?07:24
blankwhat's the sources address again07:24
blank/etc/apt/sources.list07:24
varsebegdello--- i'm running on a live cd and i don't want to open another term07:24
wickedpuppyblank, use tab07:24
varsebegdelloyep07:24
intelikeywell be back after the update....  and the lag is back to normal 2/3 seconds....07:25
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varsebegdelloblank listen to wickedpuppy07:25
blankkay07:25
stevejesuswhats up guys i have a wierd samba problem07:25
blankcan I add the repository apt lines anywhere in my sources.list?07:25
x86istevejesus: Whats up?07:25
blanklike, at the end?07:25
varsebegdelloblank ?now do you have the deb httP://blah blah breezy multiverse location?07:26
wickedpuppystevejesus, #samba would be more appropriate for ya07:26
kapputuI can see the windows machine but I cannot see it's contents07:26
varsebegdelloyeah right at the end or in the middle anywhere07:26
blankno, I already said I dont lol, I need to add it myself07:26
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blankI already have the three multiverse lines07:26
blankbut do I just add them at the end?07:26
kapputuThe folder contents could not be displayed07:26
kapputuERROR:: The folder contents could not be displayed07:26
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stevejesusx86i:  when i try and browse my network for some reason i cant see anything but my personal file server.  it prompts me for the password as soon as i open it.  i cant see any of the other machins07:26
kapputuThis is the error I'm getting07:26
x86isounds like something in windows07:26
varsebegdelloyeah that will be fine, then run apt-get update and you should be golden07:26
x86istevejesus: Is the Samba on the same work group?07:27
blanknothing about leaving an extra line blank at the end or any of that stuff right07:27
stevejesusx86i:  well, i cant see the apple machines either...07:27
blankhow can I reload or update or whatever you said07:27
blanksudo apt-get update?07:27
varsebegdellostevejesus, check the work group thing07:27
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buckyuserthanks for the help....oh wait....07:27
varsebegdelloblank yes07:27
stevejesusx86i:  well, i only have one windows machine on my workgroup.  i cant see it either07:27
blankkay07:27
blank:D07:27
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x86istevejesus: That was directed to someone else. are you on the same workgroup07:27
rabeldablebucky: can you manually setup your interface by adding the appropriate values to the /etc/network/interfaces file?07:27
stevejesusx86i:  well, i only have one windows machine on my workgroup.  i cant see it either07:28
rabeldableoh well he left07:28
blankW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages)07:28
blankI got that at the end07:28
kapputustevejesus, I was told to install Samba07:28
blankdoes that mean I entered the same line twiece07:28
stevejesusx86i:  but i should be able to see all workgroups right?  there are 2 of them07:28
bonbonoy07:28
kapputuI'm not able to see the shared folders07:28
varsebegdelloblank, hmmmm07:28
Niomixorg is using an incredible amount of resources.. right now it's using 916MB of my 1gig of ram.. what can I do?07:28
x86istevejesus: Does the windows machine have anything shared? What sort of sharing is enabled? Simple File Sharing in windows?07:28
stevejesuskapputi:  samba is installed and functional.  i am able to mount nfs, smb and even afp machines so thats not the issue07:29
kapputux86i, I'm not able to see my Windows shares either07:29
varsebegdelloblank, past bin it again07:29
kapputuERROR:: The folder contents could not be displayed07:29
varsebegdello-- your sources.list07:29
kapputuThat was the error I got07:29
blankkay07:29
x86ikapputu: What kind of sharing is enabled in windows?07:29
stevejesusx86i:  yes the windows machine is shared.  i can see it from other windows machines and also 2 osx machines and even mount it in "dave" using mac os907:29
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kapputux86i, how do I find out?07:30
x86istevejesus: Goto Pastebin.org and paste me your samba config07:30
stevejesusx86i:  but i dont care so much about that machine.  i want to access my roomates windows shares.07:30
ilba7rI heared there were special ubuntu editions for some of HP notebooks anyone knows where can i find a link on that07:30
stevejesusx86i:  ok07:30
blankvarsebegdello: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/434207:30
linuxgeek2!hi07:30
ubotuhi!07:30
linuxgeek2!bugger07:30
ubotulinuxgeek2: Wish i knew07:30
x86ikapputu: It sounds like something is wrong on the windows end. If you can see the folder, but not its contents.07:31
kapputuno I can't see the folder07:31
kapputuI can see the machine07:31
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kapputuWindows is able to see my linux shares07:31
blankmaaaan, I got an error with mplayer when I started it: "New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)07:31
x86ikapputu: Paste me your samba config as well.07:31
varsebegdelloblank i don't know07:31
stevejesusx86i:  what is the actually pastbin url.  that one takes me to some spyware junk lol07:31
kapputux86i, where do I find it?07:32
kapputu/etc/samba/smb.conf?07:32
stevejesusx86i:  this time i will bookmark it:)07:32
x86istevejesus: Its pastebin.com sorry07:32
stevejesusx86i:  thank you07:32
x86ikapputu: yes07:32
kapputuwhat's the url for paste bin?07:32
kapputuit's been a long time since I was here07:33
x86ikapputu: www.pastebin.com07:33
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varsebegdelloblank, ok ok i figured it out, you have sources open and apt-get update doesn't like that07:33
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stevejesusx86i:  http://pastebin.com/42523907:33
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varsebegdellohow do i apt-get xubuntu?07:34
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stevejesuswhat is xubuntu?07:34
dooglusvarsebegdello: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu"07:34
blankvarsebegdello: how do I fix it07:34
varsebegdelloit is ubuntu with X07:34
dooglusstevejesus: xubuntu is to XFCE as kununtu is to KDE07:34
tritiumstevejesus, ubuntu with xfce07:34
varsebegdellodo you have gedit running?07:34
varsebegdelloblan07:34
stevejesusi see07:34
varsebegdelloblank,07:35
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kapputux86i, http://pastebin.com/42524007:35
stevejesusvarsebegdello:  why dont you just apt-get XFCE?07:35
blankvarsebegdello: I'll start it, yeah07:35
varsebegdellodooglus, should i be able to apt-get fluxbox07:35
varsebegdellono stiop it07:35
x86istevejesus: Try to access the other machine  with smb://IP07:35
varsebegdelloblank07:35
crimsundooglus: (it's xubuntu-desktop)07:35
blankyes07:36
dooglusvarsebegdello: you need to use 'sudo' before apt-get and 'install' after - but otherwise, sure, why not?07:36
stevejesusvarsebegdello:  yes you can.  and enlightenment and many others.  some require that you uncomment universe and multiverse07:36
doogluscrimsun: the package it, yes.07:36
varsebegdellocool07:36
doogluss/it/is/07:36
varsebegdelloblank,07:36
varsebegdelloumm07:36
varsebegdellosorr07:36
varsebegdelloy07:36
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x86ikapputu: Hrm, your config looks fine. you said it CAN see the other machine?07:37
stevejesusx86i:  from nautilus?  is there a way to show your path in nautilus?  like in konqueror?07:37
dooglusstevejesus: type control-l07:37
kapputux86i, yes07:37
blankyeah varsebegdello07:37
varsebegdellosave the edited sources.list and close it then run apt-get update agian     *sudo07:37
bonbonok, how do i get a partition to show up as a drive on my desktop or places?07:37
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kapputux86i, also the windows machine can read my linux shares07:37
stevejesusdooglus:  command not found07:37
bonboni tried the "disks" utility under "system" but when i reboot it says "failed to mount partitions"07:37
stevejesusdooglus:  what will that do?07:38
dooglusstevejesus: which one?07:38
blankvarsebegdello, without changing sources.list at all? I opened it and havne't changed it07:38
stevejesusdooglus:  control -l07:38
varsebegdelloyou ahve to save it07:38
varsebegdelloand exti07:38
blankyeah, it's saved07:38
bonboni can manually mount it in disks when i boot, but it won't load automatically07:38
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varsebegdelloand not opend any more07:38
dooglusstevejesus: oh!  I mean hold the control key and type L which in nautilus.  it'll show the path.  you asked how to, right?07:38
x86ikapputu: Thats normal. I think its something in windows that isnt sharing it right. If your windows machine can access Ubuntu through samba, then its fine. Something is wrong with the windows share07:38
stevejesusdooglas:  haha thanks07:38
blankyeah, it works now, thanks bud :)07:38
stevejesusdooglus:  haha thanks07:38
x86istevejesus: I dont know about nautilus. Try running it from the RUN menu07:39
stevejesusdooglus:  that was so handy.  thank you!07:39
varsebegdelloblank is it working?07:39
x86idooglus: Thanks lol07:39
dooglusstevejesus: I'm glad to help.07:39
blankyeah it's been working lol07:39
blankthanks bud07:39
varsebegdelloyou bet, i think i was helping you with mplayer couple days ago07:40
kapputux86i, grrrrr I was connected to my office through vpn07:40
stevejesusx86i:  no  dice07:40
varsebegdelloblank, get to know the command line interface, you'll love it07:40
x86istevejesus: Error?07:40
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varsebegdelloso is mplayer working yet?07:41
x86istevejesus: Are you sure samba is running?07:41
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stevejesusx86i:  i tried smb://"insert ip here" and it wouldnt display contents.07:41
Lord_MaynothHEy07:41
blankvarsebegdello: thanks, I will :) yeah it's working, thanks bud!07:41
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varsebegdellocool07:41
stevejesusx86i:  samba is running.  i aam sharing my homedir from here and i also have a mounted samba share07:41
Lord_MaynothDoes anyone know if it is possible to install the latest Open Office 2 (not beta)07:41
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dooglusLord_Maynoth: it is possible.07:42
Lord_Maynothdooglus, how do i do it?07:42
varsebegdelloLord_Maynoth, i downlaoded the rpms from OO.o and ailend it07:42
x86istevejesus: Try smbclient -L yourhostname07:42
DR_K13compile it07:42
x86iin console07:42
Lord_Maynothis there a repo for ubuntu with the newest openofffice (non-beta)07:43
dooglusLord_Maynoth: either download binaries and install, or download sources and build.  I'd go for binaries if I were you07:43
varsebegdellodooglus, Lord_Maynoth   it didn't quite work out for me07:43
kapputux86i, I apologize for wasting your time07:43
varsebegdellodooglus, did you get it working?07:43
varsebegdelloOoo07:43
stevejesusx86i:  looks good.  shows all my machines info07:43
Lord_Maynoththats way to much work for a guy who cant run the CLI07:43
Lord_Maynothhehe07:43
blankI keep getting xml parser errors in firefox :(07:43
dooglusvarsebegdello: I didn't try.  I much prefer gnumeric and abiword to openoffice.07:43
x86istevejesus: Hrm... Sounds like something is up in gui07:43
dooglusvarsebegdello: my PC is 'memory challenged' - OO.o is too big for me.07:44
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stevejesusx86i:  well is there a way to browse shares via term?07:44
Lord_Maynothis there a repo that has bleeding edge apps for ubuntu07:44
Lord_Maynoth?07:44
kapputuhow do I access a printer that's connected to my Windows computer?07:44
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intelikeyyeah main07:45
dooglusLord_Maynoth: there was supposed to be a "grumpy groundhog" repo for bleeding edge stuff, but I don't think it happened yet.07:45
varsebegdelloi have some ooo -Base documents that i have't been able to find a database program, any sugestions?07:45
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x86istevejesus: One sec, looking into it07:45
Lord_MaynothI just wish autopackage would take off... then you wouldn't have to wait 6 months for new versions...07:45
vbgunzhello everyone, I have a general question. Why are files being shared from XP have time stamps about 5 hours behind the real time on Ubuntu? I mean I just created a file on XP and shared it. I grabbed it with Ubuntu and the time stamp is about 5 hours behind... Why?07:45
varsebegdelloubuntu is pretty bleeding edge compared to some....07:45
dooglusvbgunz: do you live 5 hours east or west of grenwich?07:46
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vbgunzdooglus: I have both OS set to eastern07:46
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varsebegdellognight guys07:46
vbgunzdooglus: How can I check to make sure  Ubuntu is eastern?07:47
doogluseastern is GMT-0500?07:47
vbgunzyes I believe07:47
intelikeyvbgunz hwclock and timezone settings....07:47
dooglussystem->admin->time-and-date07:47
x86istevejesus: Add these lines to your sambaconfig under global domain master = yes local master = yes preferred master = yes , all on a newline07:47
vbgunzintelikey: thank you07:47
x86istevejesus: then restart samba07:47
vbgunzdooglus: I do havce America/New York set which is Eastern...07:48
stevejesusx86i:  ok ill give it a shit07:48
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x86istevejesus: LOL07:48
stevejesusx86i:  shot*  lol07:48
DR_K13kikilololol07:48
stevejesusx86i:  i is next to o ha   maybe i should use a dutch layout07:48
x86ikapputu: Did you get it working?07:48
blankfor ati drivers, I do the sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx, then restart or then do the echo thing and edit the xorg.conf and THEN restart07:49
intelikeyX question.    in XFree86 there was a XF86_SVGA server is there an svga server in xorg ?07:49
kapputux86i, yes the problem was I was connected to my office network through VPn07:50
intelikeyi'm not seeing anything when i cache search for it....07:50
stevejesusx86i:  it shouldnt matter where i add it right?  just so long as its under global?07:50
x86ikapputu: Ah ok :)07:50
x86istevejesus: Yeah, put them all together though, for testing purposes.07:50
kapputux86i, I'm trying to add the printer connected to my Windows machine, do I need the driver?07:50
dooglusvbgunz: I don't know what's wrong then.  I don't have that problem.07:51
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x86ikapputu: That I dont even know how to do. I think it works the same way. Not sure. check out http://us4.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/07:51
vbgunzdooglus: man, it's no big deal Vs a big annoyance...07:51
dooglusvbgunz: the clock is correct on both machines?07:51
vbgunzdooglus: yes both state 1:51AM right now07:51
vbgunzdooglus: one sec, I'll experiment on something07:52
blankguys im getting so pissed, I cant download anything in firefox cause I keep getting xml parsing errors07:52
dooglusvbgunz: check the timezone on the XP machine too07:53
blankI even get it when I go into preferences>privacy07:53
vbgunzdooglus: yes, I just shared something from another XP machine and the results are the same...07:53
deFryskblank, pebkac ?07:53
dooglusvbgunz: and check /etc/timezone on ubuntu07:53
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blankI get it on everything :'(07:53
blankpebkac?07:53
vbgunzdooglus: ok07:53
blankwhat's pebkac07:53
deFryskblank, google for it07:53
dooglusblank: problem exists between keyboard and computer07:53
vbgunzdooglus: US/Eastern07:54
dooglusblank: or is it 'chair'?07:54
deFryskchair07:54
intelikeypebcak = problem exists between chair and keyboard07:54
germanneed some help with an script, somebodu can help me??07:54
dooglusgerman: maybe07:54
dooglusgerman: may need a more detailed spec though07:55
blankno...comon it's something messed up, I cant surf cause I keep getting xml parsing errors07:55
blankI cant even go into my preferences07:55
deFryskblank, what did you do to achieve this problem ?07:55
dooglusvbgunz: how are you accessing the XP share?07:55
blankmaybe I should restart, since I haven't since I installed ubuntu, and I've updated since then07:55
intelikeyalso refered to as "administrative error"07:55
germanits a sctript to know my piblic IP dooglus07:55
vbgunzdooglus: I swear this is a mystery... I do not know why the time of the file is 5 hours behind... It really makes no sense... Anybody have any ideas, clues or hints?07:55
x86istevejesus: You might have to install a gui samba frontend. Look for JAGS in Synaptics.07:55
vbgunzdooglus: I am accessing like this > smb://192.168.0.100/Documents07:55
blankdeFrysk: I dont know, I click a download link, etc., let me restart07:55
blanksee what happens07:55
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vbgunzdooglus: Through Nautilus...07:56
germandooglus, it uses wget to take the scriptr froma thw web07:56
germanthen i use cut to edit that07:56
stevejesusx86i:  alright im about to do an apt-get on JAGS.  dont really want to wait for synaptic to load.  never used it before either.  yeah, those lines didnt work, but!!  it didnt screw anything up!07:56
[linner] hey guys... how do i add multiverse and universe to my repository list?07:57
dooglusvbgunz: if you 'view as list' in nautilus, do you see wrong timestamps there?07:57
dooglusgerman: ok...  what URL?07:57
x86istevejesus: I figured it wouldnt fix it, but it will help others see Ubuntu for sure. Try JAGS07:57
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vbgunzdooglus: yes, list view is my preferred view... I'll check icons07:57
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x86istevejesus: We know Samba is working, since the cli list worked07:57
germani'll paste the script in #flood07:57
stevejesusx86i:  well i think ill remove it.  like i said, i can get to the ubuntu desktop from 3 different platforms in the house.07:58
x86igerman: Paste it here www.pastebin.com07:58
vbgunzdooglus: oh, no, I cannot see time and icon view (list is no wonder preferred)07:58
intelikeycut to edit ?????    german echo $USER | cut -c3-407:58
vbgunzdooglus: this is the modified time: Thu 10 Nov 2005 08:52:30 PM EST07:58
germani'ts just two lines, chek it at #flood07:59
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x86ivbgunz: what file is this?07:59
vbgunzdooglus: XP reports modified time as "Today, November 11, 2005, 1:52:30 AM" and Ubuntu reports it as "Thu 10 Nov 2005 08:52:30 PM EST"08:00
intelikey`echo $USER | cut -c3-4` *08:00
dooglusgerman: try this: wget -O- -o/dev/null http://snurl.com/ipaddress08:01
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vbgunzdooglus: this was just a regular text file: On XP, right-click > New > Text file... and checked it out on Ubuntu... It happens with executables and anything else... I have yet to find a file where time stamps sync correctly... All three machines are set to EST...08:01
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x86ivbgunz: try to make a file in Ubuntu and see what windows says?08:02
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vbgunzx86i: good idea08:02
germandooglus, my script is like that08:02
vbgunzI'll try that now08:02
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blankhey guys how come I cant do 'sudo alien package'08:02
blankit says alien command not found08:02
dooglusvbgunz: I'm not understanding.  when you copy the file to ubuntu, the time is wrong, but what happens when you look at the 'list view' of the smb:/.../ in nautilus?08:02
Victor-join rencka psl-abcd08:02
dooglusgerman: that URL only prints the IP address - nothing more - so no 'cut' is needed08:02
blankhow come I cant do sudo alien08:02
dooglusgerman: I just joined #flood.  paste your script there now?08:03
kapputuHP Deskjet 3930 is not supported08:03
vbgunzdooglus: the time is just wrong... I just tried what x86i recommended and Ubuntu created a file directly on the share 5 hours behind "Thu 10 Nov 2005 09:02:20 PM EST"08:03
blankguys, how can I install alien, so I can convert rpm packages to debian08:03
vbgunzdooglus: it should be "Fri 10 Nov 2005 02:02:20 PM EST"08:03
x86ivbgunz: And the time in ubuntu is correct?08:03
stevejesusx86i:  alright now im getting upset.08:04
vbgunzyes, the tray clock says: 02:04:08 AM08:04
tritiumblank, sudo aptitude install alien.  Which rpms do you intend to convert?  Are there no ubuntu packages?08:04
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germandooglus, my problem s that sometimes my Ip is xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx and other times it is xxx.xxx.xx.xx08:04
stevejesusx86i:  jags seems to only let you browse one workgroup at a time08:04
stevejesusx86i:  there ahas to be an easir way08:04
intelikeyblank to install almost anything you want use "sudo apt-get install <package-name> "08:04
blanklimewire (i dont want gtk-gnutella08:04
x86istevejesus: Yes, but you can mount the drives08:04
dooglusvbgunz: try this:  mkdir /tmp/mount; sudo mount -t cifs -o password=,uid=1000 //192.168.0.100/Documents /tmp/mount08:04
vbgunzdooglus: date: Friday, November 11 2005 and time: 02:04:56 AM...08:05
blankintelikey: even rpms?08:05
vbgunzdooglus: ok08:05
x86ivbgunz: Goto console and type time08:05
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intelikeyblank first try apt and if there is no deb avalable then use the rpm package as a last resort08:05
stevejesusx86i:  yes, they will mount fine.  but it is a little cumbersome to mount everything via the command line.  granted my personal server mounts at boot, but everything else08:05
FarrisGAnyone here played Quake 4 under Ubuntu yet?08:05
vbgunzx86i: real 0m0.000s, user 0m0.000s, sys 0m0.000s,08:06
stevejesusFarrisG:  yes i have08:06
vbgunzdooglus: am doing that now08:06
dooglusvbgunz: then cd to /tmp/mount and check the dates there08:06
vbgunzdooglus: ok08:06
blankthe sudo aptitude install alien thing didnt work08:06
stevejesusFarrisG:  and it is pityful.  of course my machine is slower than needed.08:06
x86istevejesus: JAGS has an AutoMount feature08:06
blankit said it cant find it08:06
germani'm trying your command dooglus but nothing happens08:07
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blankread this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21523) the post by Mike Basinger, it tells what I want to do but it doesnt work08:07
tritium!info alien08:07
ubotualien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.53 (breezy), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB08:07
FarrisGstevejesus: I feel the same way, but my hardware isn't THAT bad. P4 2GHz, 1GB PC3200, Radeon 9800Pro 128M08:07
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vbgunzdooglus: wrong fs type08:07
tritiumblank, it's available, as you can see08:07
FarrisGstevejesus: My Athlon64 machine is reinstalling right now, I hope it works a bit better08:07
stevejesusFarrisG:  thats almost identical to what i have!  i have a 2000+, 1gb, and 256mb 5600xt08:08
x86iFarrisG: My friend is currently playing Quake4 in Ubuntu08:08
stevejesusFarrisG:  i was unaware that they had a 64-bit build...08:08
ChousukeYou guys have such monsters08:08
blanktritium: sorry but I dont understand08:08
Chousukeand then you call them slow?08:08
vbgunzdooglus: I think I created the /tmp/mount directory... I can CD in and when I tried "ls -a" all I got back was ". .."08:08
Chousuke;P08:08
x86iI have 2800+ Barton, 4gb of PC3200 and a 9800PRO08:09
vbgunzdooglus: I might have to umount /tmp/mount huh?08:09
FarrisGstevejesus: I don't think there's a 64bit build of Quake. But I usually run 32bit OS on the athlon54 anyway08:09
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tritiumblank, alien is available for install.  You should be able to sudo apt-get install alien, unless you haven't ever run "sudo apt-get update" yet08:09
intelikeyKernel: Linux 2.8.4-22 | Distro: Boomerang Linux release 1.0 for i386 | CPU: intel 80486 @ 66 Mhz | Mem usage: 2/11.1 MB  (18%) | Swap usage: 0/0 (99%) | Disk usage(st3502): 84/124 MB (67%) | Uptime: 11 days 01 hours 09 mins 38 sec08:09
vbgunzdooglus: then sudo the command you gave me>?08:09
Chousukex86i: What use do you have for 4 gb? :|08:09
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x86iintelikey: Im sorry :(08:09
Chousukeintelikey:  \o/08:10
solidgroove2.8 kernel?08:10
blanktritium: so I have to install alien?08:10
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highvoltage2.8!? where do i get that?08:10
dduckoblank, http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire08:10
x86iChousuke: Nothing, I got the sticks for free.08:10
tritiumblank, you're the one who said you wanted it08:10
solidgroovewhats boomerang?08:10
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blankoh, Sorry, I thought it was part of the command not something I had to install lol08:10
x86iChousuke: I actually use them as ram drives. Thats where my swap is located.08:10
dduckoNo not really blank, I use that tutorial everytime i install it08:10
ali_hi i am trying to install ubuntu 5.1008:10
stevejesusx86i:  silly...  so jags didnt seem to be showing any machine graphically.  but i just looked behind it from the terminal it was launched from, and it lists al the shares in my network when i query08:10
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dduckoIf you use the RPM yeah.. but you dont need it blank08:10
ali_it gets hang on my TravelMate laptop08:10
ali_on the line08:11
FarrisGMy athlon64 only has 1GB in it as well. Could use one more gig. I'm just wondering if there will be a noticable hit since I'm using PATA drives in it instead of SATA/RAID0. Can't afford new drives right now, and I don't want to break the RAID on this system, as it's my fileserver08:11
dooglusvbgunz: I doubt /tmp/mount existed before you made it08:11
ali_loading cd-atapi module08:11
vbgunzdooglus: cannot create directory `/tmp/mount': File exists08:11
stevejesusd^-_-^b:  how do you like that verizon service?08:11
KnelixGuys, just as a note... x is displaying on my TV just fine.. apparently, I just had to start up with just the TV out connected.08:11
rabeldableali_: is TravelMate a new or old laptop?08:11
ali_pentium 308:11
stevejesusd^-_-^b:  i do technical support for those guys08:11
dooglusvbgunz: wrong fs type?  that's odd.  it's a windows share, right?08:11
vbgunzI tried to sudo umount /tmp/mount but:  /tmp/mount: not mounted08:11
KnelixOf course, it isn't very readable at all, but that's okay.08:11
[linner] rabeldable:  travelmate i think is an older laptop08:11
vbgunzdooglus: yes, NTFS08:12
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d^-_-^bstevejesus, it suxxors in my locale.  I know that back in east, they have fiber opics lines08:12
intelikeyali is that booting from the install cd or what ?08:12
LathropWellsknelix good to know. :)08:12
d^-_-^bstevejesus, but not here unforunately08:12
d^-_-^b=/08:12
stevejesusd^-_-^b:  fios baby08:12
Knelix:-)08:12
x86istevejesus: Hrm... odd.. I'd head over to #samba ... Maybe you need an exorcist?08:12
blankoh okay08:12
FarrisGThey just finished laying the fiber to my neighborhood this week08:12
blankyeah cuase somehow I think it didnt work with the rpm08:12
vbgunzdooglus: "sudo umount /tmp/mount" doesn't work... it seems I cannot umount it :908:12
ali_intelikey, yes it is booting from install cd08:12
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FarrisGsupposedly it'll be a month or two before I can get service08:12
ali_but on this point08:12
LathropWellsFarrisG - need a roomie??? - lol08:12
ali_it stops08:12
[linner] is everyone else having a problem wtih the repos08:12
dooglusvbgunz: it's not mounted08:12
rabeldableali_: did you cycle through the alt-f2, alt-f3, alt-f4 keys to see any extra info on the screen?08:12
dduckonah Ubuntu is Debian so need .deb packages, blank08:12
d^-_-^bstevejesus, what's 'fios'?08:13
tritiumhey there [linner] .  long time no see08:13
ali_rabeldable, no08:13
[linner] tritium:  my hero!!! :)  How the heck are you?08:13
rabeldablecheck it out08:13
FarrisGLathropWells: If my bro doesn't start paying his rent, I just might. :) Actually, my fiance would probably kill me if I took on another boarder08:13
LathropWellsFarrisG - what is the news on price?08:13
dduckofiber optics d^-_-^b08:13
stevejesusd^-_-^b:  fios is the term for the fiber line your talking about.08:13
dooglusvbgunz: you can tell by typing "df /tmp/mount" - look at the "mounted on" field08:13
blanklooks like I need java08:13
blank:(08:13
rabeldablealt-f2 through alt-f708:13
d^-_-^booo08:13
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intelikeyali_ try with expert mode and when it says detecting ....  unselect generic cdrom module08:13
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vbgunzdooglus: oh ok I think your'e rightz108:13
LathropWellshow fast for how much $  ?08:13
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FarrisGLathropWells: I think It's supposed to be 45 or 50 bucks for 8Mb/4Mb08:13
x86istevejesus: Check this out http://imc.sourceforge.net/samba-console.html08:13
dduckoNot bad08:13
blankI need java for limewire right?08:14
stevejesusd^-_-^b:  fios is the term for the fiber line your talking about.08:14
ali_intelikey, is it all ?08:14
vbgunzdooglus: Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on, /dev/hda2              9614148   5416448   3709324  60% /08:14
dooglusvbgunz: is there a password on the share08:14
dduckoyeah..  its on the link i gave you blank08:14
rabeldableali_: the thing is it might not be the cdrom, if you can boot from it it could be the next thing in the list trying to load08:14
dooglusvbgunz: that "mounted on /" shows that nothing is mounted on /tmp/mount08:14
vbgunzdooglus: no, both XP boxes have open shares...08:14
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LathropWellsFarrisG - That is outstanding! :)      (willing to sublet the front yard,backyard, roof, or basement so i can  setup a tent? - lol08:14
FarrisGLathropWells: The bitch is that I don't think they'll even consider doling out static addresses. Which blows08:14
ali_rabeldable, after taking the language and keyboard setting08:14
blankthe package doesnt exist though08:14
hshi *.*08:14
dduckoor for the official one...08:14
ali_rabeldable, it looks for the option08:14
intelikeyyeah it will ask that two times in the install process.   both times deslesct that and see if it cant install08:15
dducko!restricted08:15
ubotuI heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs08:15
ali_and at that stage it hangs08:15
intelikeyali_ ^08:15
x86iFarrisG: Who needs static addresses? That only means its easier to track you.08:15
dduckoCheck that out blank, has the Java stuff08:15
LathropWellsNP - there are a bunch of services out there to take care of dynamic addressing08:15
vbgunzdooglus: oh, nice tip, thank you!08:15
ali_yes intelikey08:15
x86i:P08:15
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ali_ok intelikey  i will and will come back to u08:15
FarrisGx86i: Heh. I got nothin' to hide08:15
ali_intelikey,  you will be around08:16
intelikeyk08:16
intelikeyfor a while08:16
ali_intelikey, it is working over the desktop08:16
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x86iFarrisG: That fast of a connection corrupts even the purest of souls... trust me. I was once pure.08:16
FarrisGLathropWells: YEah, I'm doing my own cooked up dyndns myself. It's just nearly impossible to really host anything without a static08:16
ali_intelikey, is expert mode difficult ?08:16
vbgunzx86i: what does this mean for time?: real    0m0.000s user    0m0.000s sys     0m0.000s08:16
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ali_intelikey, i did server last time08:16
blanktell ubotu to tell me the sources.list or whatever of the repositories08:16
blankhe told me once08:16
dooglusvbgunz: what if you   "mount -t cifs -o passwd= //192.168.0.100/documents /tmp/mount"   ?08:16
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intelikeyno just very aquainted with install errors.08:16
ali_intelikey, it seemed similar but ia m not sure about expert08:16
vbgunzdooglus: I will try08:16
stevejesusx86i:  interesting.  ill install that on the deb server in the living room.  i might find a practical use for it08:16
vbgunzdooglus: sudo first right?08:17
FarrisGHIttin' the hay y'all. G'night08:17
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intelikeyjust read what it asks before you answer ali_ and you'll be fine.08:17
x86istevejesus: I am at a loss for your problem. Samba is working, but not in Gnome. Check with #samba08:17
ali_intelikey, and if i dont know just select the default is it ?08:17
vbgunzdooglus: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.0.100/documents, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so08:17
stevejesusx86i:  will do08:18
dduckoblank you can also  /msg ubotu whatever08:18
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intelikeymost of the time ali_08:18
dduckoand he will respond to you08:18
x86idducko: Can I ask him on a date?08:18
dduckoBottoms up.08:18
dooglusvbgunz: I don't need sudo - I can mount it as user.08:18
x86i!date08:18
ubotux86i: I haven't a clue08:18
frogzoo!tell blank about repos08:18
ali_intelikey, are u using 5.10 ?08:19
intelikeytritium thanks but i'll pass, i'm on the vertual wagon.08:19
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LathropWellsvirtualy drunk my wife won't mind... - lol08:19
vbgunzdooglus: mount: only root can do that...08:19
dooglusvbgunz: odd.08:19
intelikeyali_ 5.0408:19
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frogzooblank: ubotu is a bot :)08:19
vbgunzdooglus: does this happen to you?08:19
dooglusvbgunz: aah...  I have: mount is aliased to `sudo mount'08:19
tritiumintelikey, well, good for you, heh08:19
ali_intelikey, what is the rite time to install it ? i mean 5.10 ?08:19
x86iHe may be a bot, but hes a sexy bot.08:19
ali_is it a good idea to install it now? intelikey08:19
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blankfrogzoo: i know08:19
intelikeyyes ali_08:20
blankman i cant get frickin java to install08:20
blankit says no such package08:20
b0uncerdudes, I can't login to Gnome after update :/08:20
b0uncerany help?08:20
tritiumblank, read the java wiki page08:20
x86iblank: Its java-core I believe08:20
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intelikeyali_ i'm on dialup so i'm always behind.08:20
frogzoo!java08:20
marlunHello again everyone! I'm wondering, Ubuntu has Firefox 1.0.7 installed by default, if I want to upgrade to 1.5 RC2, what should I do, just download it and manually install it or somehow through the Package Manager?08:20
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb08:20
vbgunzdooglus: when I first set up the share I did Places > Connect to Server > server: 192* > share: Documents > name for connect: XP108:20
ali_intelikey, oh ok08:20
ali_intelikey, but that is good version too08:21
blank!javadeb08:21
ubotublank: I don't know08:21
vbgunzmarlun: firefox rc2 is out or rc1?08:21
blankuh...kay08:21
intelikeyyes08:21
dooglusvbgunz: you shouldn't need anything set up to do this mount.08:21
blankman :')08:21
blanki dont get it08:21
dooglusvbgunz: what if you replace 'cifs' with 'smbfs'?08:21
frogzooblank: /msg ubotu help08:21
vbgunzdooglus: will try08:21
marlunvbgunz, rc2 is out08:22
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x86i/msg ubotu will you give me the secret to life?08:22
intelikeydooglus can i ask what mount command yall are working on ?08:22
frogzooubotu: knows everything :)08:22
ubotufrogzoo: Syntax error in line 108:22
vbgunzdooglus: same error regardless smbfs OR cifs...08:22
frogzoo:P - lol08:22
marlunvbgunz, nothing big, just some fixes to the automatic update system (atleast thats what the release notes say)08:22
vbgunzmarlun: cool, thanks08:22
dooglusintelikey: mounting a windows share in ubuntu08:22
dduckoblank #dzdsytems and Ill help you get java installed08:22
kapputuWhat do I do with a printer that does not show up in the list of supported printers in Linuxprinting.org??08:22
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intelikeythrough samba i suppose08:22
stevejesuswhere is the guy trying to install xubuntu?  are you still here?  i am about to install it onto an old laptop.  i have links to the nesasary procedures08:22
dooglusintelikey: through smbfs08:22
BioNikhi, ho/redraw08:22
vbgunzmarlun: I cannot wait for firefox 1.5 final to go on Ubuntu... its faster...08:22
intelikeyk08:23
rabeldablekapputu:  if you have an HP printer usually you can select a printer close in the models08:23
frogzoo!xubuntu08:23
ubotumethinks xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu08:23
vbgunzdooglus: you think maybe ntfs might work08:23
dooglusintelikey: I just do this: "sudo mount -t cifs -o passwd= //server/Dokumenty /tmp/mount" - but it's not working for vbgunz08:23
BioNikhi, how to change locale away from utf-808:23
dooglusvbgunz: I'm pretty sure it wouldn't08:23
rabeldableit may be the same for other printer types08:23
LathropWellsvbgunz - opera is faster than firefox if speed is what you need.08:23
kapputuyeah it's a HP printer08:23
rabeldablewhat type?08:23
marlunvbgunz, np, could you help me out? I've downloaded the firefox-1.5rc2.tar.gz and it automaticly opened it in something called fileroller which seems to be like winrar for windows, should I just copy it over the old firefox folder?08:24
kapputu3920 and 3940 are supported but not 393008:24
vbgunzLathropWells: nah, I like Firefox.... :P08:24
intelikeymount point exist ?08:24
kapputuIt's a HP Deskjet08:24
rabeldabletry the 394008:24
kapputuok08:24
stevejesusyes opera IS suprisingly fast for being almost its own os lol.08:24
dooglusvbgunz: this is a remote machine you're trying to mount, right, not a local dual-booted windows partition?08:24
tritiumkapputu, that should be supported08:24
frogzooBioNik: right click clock @ top right hand corner - edit - time zone08:24
b0uncerplease, anybody who has updated the latest Breezy updates, can you log into Gnome?08:24
vbgunzmarlun check Ubuntu forums... walkthrough already there for firefox 1.508:24
LathropWellsstevejesus - lol08:24
stevejesusepiphany is also very zippy08:24
dooglusb0uncer: I can08:24
rabeldableor try 3900 if its there?08:24
vbgunzdooglus: yes, another machine sitting right next to me08:24
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b0uncerdooglus: any idea why I can't (ICEauthority errors..) ?08:24
marlunvbgunz, oh, ok =) thanks08:24
dooglusb0uncer: when were the updates?08:25
kapputuhpijs?08:25
vbgunzit is an XP machine set to ESt and the time is currently correct08:25
b0uncerdooglus: yesterday evening08:25
dooglusb0uncer: what did they update?08:25
b0uncerI can only use console now08:25
kapputunope 3900 ain't there08:25
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b0uncermm can't remember...where's the log..08:25
marlunvbgunz, which of the forums should I search in?08:25
vbgunzdooglus: correct, it is a networked machine running XP...08:25
vbgunzmarlun I believe it is in the Ubuntu howto forums... search for firefox 1.508:26
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vbgunzmarlun: the walkthrough works, I did it and had no problems!08:26
b0uncerdooglus: here's a short list.. (wait a sec)08:26
dooglusb0uncer: nautilus was updated I see08:26
intelikeydooglus i think you still get the error "only root can do that" when the mount point or the fs one doesn't exist.  i'd start there.   in trying to trubble shoot that one.08:26
rabeldablekapputu:  it probably does not matter since it might use the same driver anyways08:26
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rabeldablepick 3920 or 394008:27
b0unceryea some libnautilus-extension1, librpm, libungif, nautilus-data, nautilus08:27
GrugHey guys just checkin out ubuntu for first time08:27
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tritiumwelcome, Grug08:27
vbgunzintelikey: I was trying to mount without sudo... thats the reason why I got the error... Then I simply sudo'ed in and was prompted with wrong f type, etc...08:27
dooglusintelikey: that's solved...  I was wondering why I could mount as user, whereas vbgunz needed to 'sudo' - it was because I have aliased 'mount' to 'sudo mount'.08:27
kapputurabeldable, I added the printer using the lpadmin command as specified in the Debian linux > windows printing tutorial08:27
frogzooGrug: any probs, just come back here :)08:27
GrugEclipse didn't work out for me08:27
Grug:)08:27
rabeldabletest page?08:27
kapputuwhen I try to enable it, I get an error that the printer name is not a shell built-in08:27
b0uncerdooglus: have you updated nautilus?08:27
hskapputu: use gnome-cups-manager08:28
dooglusintelikey: the question is why does vbgunz see "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.0.100/documents, missing codepage or other [...] " when he tries to mount it?08:28
rabeldableis it a network printer, usb or parralel08:28
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dooglusb0uncer: I have, yes.  I don't really ever use it though.08:28
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dooglusb0uncer: it still works though, from the little I've used it today08:28
kapputuIt's a network USB printer08:28
GrugUbuntu is great so far for being free lol... I'm a windows guy and this is a bit difficult at first08:28
b0uncerdooglus: ok just checking..08:28
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vbgunzdooglus and b0uncer I have Nautilus "2.12.1".08:28
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b0uncerdooglus: how do I do the update through console?08:28
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intelikeywell i'd say wrong fs type is probably the cause....08:28
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b0uncerI'm not that familiar with these debian-based things yet08:28
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stevejesuswell, time to see how well xubuntu fares on my old pii 450 lappy.08:29
dooglus"nautilus (2.12.1-0ubuntu1.1)" is the updated version08:29
intelikeykernel module ?08:29
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rabeldablerun the following command on your system:  lsmod | grep usb08:29
dooglusb0uncer: you type "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade"08:29
vbgunzdooglus: do I have an older version?08:29
frogzooGrug: remember learning windows at first wasn't straight forward - and Linux is way more powerful08:29
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rabeldablethat will tell you if the usb kernel module is loaded08:29
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b0uncerdooglus: ok just figured out a sec ago :D08:29
b0uncerthough there's nothing to be updated08:30
b0uncer:/08:30
dooglusvbgunz: "apt-cache policy nautilus | grep Installed" will tell you what you've got08:30
b0uncerI wonder what went wrong yesterday08:30
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kapputurabeldable, but the printer is connected to a Windows machine08:30
b0uncerand how to fix that08:30
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kapputuI can see that machine and even see the printer08:30
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kapputubut when I send a job nothing gets printer08:30
vbgunzdooglus: Installed: 2.12.1-0ubuntu108:30
kapputuI'm not even sure if the job is spooled08:30
stevejesusfrogzoo:  i wouldnt say thats it smore powerful.  thats a pretty broad statement.  i do like the apps better.  i mean my 350 g3 running os9 is still the most powerful thing i have EVER seen lol08:30
dooglusvbgunz: that's old then, yes.  I see "Installed: 2.12.1-0ubuntu1.1"08:31
GrugAnybody installed ubuntu on a mac mini?08:31
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vbgunzdooglus: I get prompts to update the system and I update whenever I get the chance... did Nautilus just update?08:31
stevejesusfrogzoo:  its all in the eye of the beholder08:31
b0uncerdooglus: I've got that 1.1 too :/ any clue how I might fix this problem?08:31
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b0uncerif it even is nautilus-related08:32
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hskapputu: are u using samba and cups?08:32
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frogzoostevejesus: most everything in LInux can be scripted, which isn't the case in windows - that's a lot of leverage right there08:32
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kapputuhs, yes08:32
Mars_^Hi08:32
dooglusvbgunz: I got the update about 36 hours ago.08:32
b0uncerMars_^: hi08:32
Grugi script in windows using wscript :)08:32
Mars_^How can i mount my wndows partition?08:32
vbgunzdooglus: will refresh repos and check08:32
rabeldablekapputu:  so , you have a windows box with a usb printer connected and you are trying to print from your linux box which must have samba running since you can see it.08:33
dooglusvbgunz: I got it at 20:12 on the 9th.  it's now 8:32 on the 11th08:33
hskapputu: printer name?08:33
frogzoostevejesus: #2 Linux gives you access to the source & the open source community - again, that's a lot more flexibility than windows08:33
stevejesusfrogzoo:  not too be devils advocate but you can script in windows just as deep as you can in mac or linux08:33
Grugyeah08:33
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kapputurabeldable, yes08:33
rabeldableok08:33
kapputuprinter name is Vyasa08:33
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GrugBut hey, this is an ubuntu group :)08:33
LathropWellsMars_^, - check out this link08:33
b0uncerdooglus: if you have an idea for me, please /msg me...I'll be back in a few minutes08:33
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b0unceror anyone08:34
LathropWells!ntfs08:34
b0uncer->08:34
tritiumfrogzoo, stevejesus:  please take that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic08:34
ubotusomebody said ntfs was the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions08:34
vbgunzdooglus: my system is up to date :( I do have all repos enabled *except* for backports... I am on Breezy 5.10, with all imaginable updates applied :(08:34
stevejesusfrogzoo:  dont get me wrong, linux is my main machine.  i use it for music production!  but still windows and others platforms are still plenty powerful.08:34
Mars_^lahgoon, Thanks08:34
rabeldabledo you have an IP associated to that name on your system?08:34
stevejesustritium: sry08:34
dooglusvbgunz: it didn't update nautilus though?08:34
rabeldablethe IP of your windows box?08:34
hskapputu: i am asking company and model name08:34
Mars_^LathropWells,  Thanks08:34
Gruganybody know how to get nicer fonts for Ubuntu?08:34
vbgunzdooglus: I am guessing not... :(08:34
tritiumstevejesus, no worries at all, buddy08:34
rabeldableHP 393008:34
kapputuhs, Deskjet 393008:34
vbgunzI have a pretty buig list of repos and all are enabled except for backports...08:34
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frogzoo!fonts08:34
ubotuI guess fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto08:34
Grugthanks08:34
intelikeynicer fonts ????08:35
dooglusvbgunz: md5sum /var/lib/apt/lists/*_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_Release*   ?08:35
rabeldablekapputu: its important to describe your setup in more detail cause this might be a samba problem08:35
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hshave you installed cupsys try to configure it from Gnome-cups manager08:35
vbgunz366ae3e5d784eb41ef0dd9fc5d23cb91  /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubunt u_dists_breezy-updates_Release08:35
kapputurabeldable, I'm using Ubuntu 5.1008:35
kapputuWindows XP with USB printer08:35
kapputuI have installed Samba08:36
vbgunzdooglus: I pasted the results above ^08:36
kapputuand I can access Windows shares from my laptop and linux shares from my desktop08:36
marlunvbgunz, when, firefox 1.5 is released will I be able to update it through the Synaptic Package Manager then?08:36
dooglusvbgunz: only one line08:36
dooglus?08:36
kapputuI used the Printing menu option in System/Admin08:36
hsKapputu, have you installed cupsys try to configure it from Gnome-cups manager08:36
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vbgunzdooglus: I never did the file thing... I instead *only* enabled repos from the interface... Should I go enable repos in the gfile itself?08:37
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kapputuif I'm assuming that Printing -> Gnome Cups Manager, it saw my Desktop and also recognized the printer that is shared08:37
vbgunzmarlun: Firefox has it;s own update feature... I currently downgraded and cant wait for it :)08:37
kapputuand then I was asked to identify the model and when installing chose the driver for 394008:37
dooglusvbgunz: no, there's no need08:37
kapputuand then I tried to print a document which was sent to the printer but nothing happened08:38
dooglusvbgunz: but you should have both a Release and a Release.gpg in that directory08:38
vbgunzdooglus: maybe worth a try?08:38
rabeldablekapputu: do you have /etc/printcap file?08:38
dooglusvbgunz: did you copy my md5sum command fully?  there's a '*' at the end...08:38
vbgunzdooglus: yes08:38
stevejesusjust got a notion...  in nautilus, when you right-click on an iso file and click write do disk...  is that actually gonna checksum it and make it bootable?  that would be alot handier than loading up k3b08:38
vbgunzdooglus: will try agin08:38
kapputuPrinting: Unable to connect to SAMBA host, will retry in 60 seconds...ERROR:  Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED08:38
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kapputuI got this error now08:38
kappututhe print job was spooled but I didn't notice it08:38
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kapputuand now I got the above error08:39
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daHippoHi08:39
dooglusvbgunz: the problem is with the us repository.  it's out of date.08:39
vbgunzdooglus: yup, the result is "366ae3e5d784eb41ef0dd9fc5d23cb91  /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_Release" and the original command was: md5sum /var/lib/apt/lists/*_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_Release*08:39
kapputurabeldable, I do not have a /etc/printcap file08:39
dooglusvbgunz: compare ftp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i386/ with ftp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i386/08:40
vbgunzdooglus: what repo is up to date08:40
vbgunzdooglus: ok08:40
rabeldablekapputu:  run the following command and send the output to me08:40
dooglusvbgunz: run "sudo sed -i 's/us[.] //g' /etc/apt/sources.list"08:40
vbgunzdooglus: does running on i686 make a difference?08:41
rabeldablegrep -i print /etc/samba/smb.cnf08:41
dooglusvbgunz: I doubt it08:41
hskapputu, have you enabled file and printer sharing in windows?08:41
rabeldablegood question hs08:41
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kapputuhs, I don't remember where I should enable it08:41
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rabeldablei think you can right click on the printer and share it08:41
vbgunzdooglus: nothing happened, back to prompt, check updates again?08:41
kapputurabeldable, the printer is shared08:41
B_166-ER-XTiCpu,  :P08:41
TiCpuyep08:41
hskapputu, it will be in your lancad proerties menu08:41
daHippoHey y'all are you trying to connect to a windows printer from ubuntu?08:41
dooglusvbgunz: update and upgrade, yes08:41
hskapputu, it will be in your lancard proerties menu08:42
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vbgunzdooglus: ok08:42
dooglusvbgunz: and something happened - you just didn't see it08:42
rabeldableis it shared as the same name as your linux box expects08:42
hss/proerties/proerties08:42
vbgunzdooglus: I did :"sudo sed -i 's/us[.] //g' /etc/apt/sources.list" about 3 times... is that a bad thing?08:42
hss/proerties/properties08:42
dooglusvbgunz: no, it's fine08:42
kapputuyeah it is enabled08:42
kapputuI mean do I need to go and enable it anywhere08:42
vbgunzdooglus: ok checking for updates08:43
kapputuI wouldn't be able to access my windows folders if it were disabled right?08:43
vbgunzdooglus: what was that command? man how you know these things?08:43
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dooglusvbgunz: each time you ran it, it deleted all "us." strings from your sources.list.  the 2nd and 3rd time it wouldn't have found any to delete08:43
rabeldablekapputu:  Here are some links08:43
hskupputu: it should be enabled there and printer should be configured for sharing08:43
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rabeldablehttp://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/samba.htm08:43
frogzoovbgunz: sed outputs to standard out - the worst you'll get is gibberish on your screen08:43
vbgunzdooglus: I do have three updates, nautilus is one of them08:43
rabeldablehttp://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=11093108:43
vbgunzgoing for it08:44
rabeldablehttp://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Linux/Linux_Printing/Q_20716995.html08:44
dooglusvbgunz: sed is a stream editor.  -i means "edit in place".  s/from/to/ replaces the 'from' string with the 'to' string.  the 'g' on the end makes it global - so it will do more than one replacement per line08:44
vbgunzdooglus: hree updates are nautilus related08:44
rabeldablesee if there is something in your config that you may have missed08:44
intelikeyali_ must have gotten his/her lappy to boot the install cd  :)08:44
vbgunzdooglus: really sweet08:44
ali_intelikey, no08:45
vbgunzdooglus: major thanks, I have to remember this.... this is powerful08:45
dooglusvbgunz: looks like ubuntu need to get themselves someone to manage their repositories better.  the us repo is 36 hours out of date at least08:45
intelikeyali_ still same error ?08:45
ali_intelikey, one question about cd module08:45
vbgunzdooglus: ok upgrade finished08:45
intelikeyk08:45
vbgunzwill check08:45
dduckoheh.. i had the nautilus when i got up this morning08:45
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ali_once i complete installation then how to upload that default module ? for cd ?08:45
dduckohowever long ago that was..08:45
vbgunzdooglus: nautilus: 2.12.1-0ubuntu1.108:45
ali_intelikey, once i complete installation then how to upload that default module ? for cd ?08:45
dduckoand now im going to bed08:45
marlunvbgunz, yeah I know but I looked at the walkthrough and it's not as easy for me as it sounds on the text, for example how to install mozilla-mplayer, I can't find it in the package manager, and also they say I need libstdc++5 but I've got 6, do I still need 5 or is 6 a later version?08:46
dooglusvbgunz: that's the one08:46
dooglusvbgunz: hopefully it will break GNOME for you - then you and b0uncer can have fun debugging it :)08:46
vbgunzdooglus: cool... marlun I never installed mplayer... just firefox08:46
vbgunzdooglus: :P08:46
intelikeyali_ if you get it to install without it you don't use it.    if the install cd can be used without that module then any cd should work without it....08:46
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marlunvbgunz, oh, but what about the libstdc++5? :P08:47
ali_intelikey, k08:47
vbgunzdooglus: the one thing about Windows shares with XP is there SO slow to access if you don't access them for a while08:47
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vbgunzmarlun: I followed the tute a while ago, it worked perfect and let me test Firefox 1.5 for a bit... then I just downgraded... I can wait and don't wish to break Ubuntu or something :)08:48
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intelikeyali_ if a certain module hangs your system you try to get the system to work without that module.   even deleting it from /lib/modules/blah... if need  :)08:48
ali_intelikey, k08:48
vbgunzdooglus: I upgraded Nautilus... should I log out or restart gdm? It doesn't seem to have fixed the time issue :(08:48
marlunvbgunz, so your waiting untill it's up in the Package Manager?08:49
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frogzoois there any good reason to upgrade firefox to 1.5rc2 ?08:49
kappututhanks rabeldable08:49
ali_intelikey, where are u situated ?08:49
intelikeynot all hardware is compatable with all drivers/modules   and thus sometimes they hang things.....08:49
agro1986question: nautilus in breezy defaults to browsing mode (not spatial mode). Is this a change in upstream gnome or just in ubuntu?08:49
vbgunzmarlun: sure, its no big deal and doesn't intriduce features which are too die for or anything :)08:49
ali_intelikey, where are u located :D ?08:49
intelikeyin an office chair in my shop  :)08:49
ali_what is ur work ?08:49
marlunvbgunz, yeah thats what I was asking before if it was going to add to their for easy update when 1.5 was released :)08:49
hskupputu: this link will solve your problem08:50
hskupputu: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUPS_Setup#Windows_to_Linux08:50
hskuputu: all the best08:50
marlunvbgunz, excuse my horrible english :)08:50
intelikeyali_ general repairs.    what used to be called a "handy man"08:50
ali_intelikey, computer repairs ?08:50
intelikeysome yes.08:50
agro1986question: nautilus in breezy defaults to browsing mode (not spatial mode). Is this a change in upstream gnome or just in ubuntu?08:51
ali_other ? intelikey08:51
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rabeldablenp08:51
vbgunzmarlun: when the official 1.5 is released... if Ubuntu doesn't up to it in time I might go ahead and install otherwise waiting will be no big deal... The one really cool thing about the new Firefox is how popups and javascript windows can be forced into a tab instead which is really nice...08:51
ali_intelikey, do you repair laptop pc's ?08:51
theturtlanyone know of an app for synching ipod music, thats compatible with itunes db?08:51
intelikeyauto computer bycycle furnature..... you name it. if it's broke i work on it.08:51
naliothvbgunz: that has been standard on galeon for some time now08:51
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vbgunzdooglus: did you break out on me? Should I log out, restart GDM or something? times are still wrong in the Windows share08:51
frogzoo!ipod08:51
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto08:51
vbgunznalioth: is galeon a Linux only browser?08:51
ali_intelikey can you tell me how to repair the screen of laptop ?08:52
marlunvbgunz, yeah okey then I'll just hope they'll add it when it comes :)08:52
vbgunzI just switched to Linux about 60 days ago and Firefox sort of made me happy as I was using it on Windows before the switch08:52
kapputuhs, my problem is the other way round08:52
naliothvbgunz: it is built for gnome (using gtk2)08:52
ali_intelikey, the screen is very dark but there is picture in the background how to repair it ?08:52
hskuputu: it has other way also08:52
frogzooali_: turn up the brightness?08:52
theturtlhrmm. so itunes with crossover office huh08:53
theturtl:D08:53
vbgunznalioth: thanks!08:53
hsali_: screen or screen resolution?08:53
ali_lol08:53
intelikeyali_ no chance without close examination....    but some have a trim pot for the brightness ali_08:53
vbgunzdooglus: ran out on me? what about that child support?08:53
ali_no its the screen not the brightness problem08:53
vbgunz:P08:53
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ali_intelikey, someone said check the light ?08:53
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ali_intelikey,  is there any light on the LCD ?08:53
ali_intelikey, where is the light setting ?08:54
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pauldaousthey, folks... I have a Hula/Evolution question. (I tried the Hula channel, but it looks like North America is asleep!) does anyone know a good way to transfer messages from Evo to Hula?08:55
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vbgunzdooglus: sorry, logged out08:56
hs!Hula08:56
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, hs08:56
pauldaoust(I tried to just copy Evo's mailboxes to Hula's mail store directory, but it looks like the formats are different enough that all I got were two or three messages from each folder)08:56
intelikeyali_ you are asking me to make very brawd assumptions about your particular problem.  (not that i don't make that mistake sometimes)   but without having that machine here i have no idea what to tell ya.       google.com is your friend and  don't believe everything you read.08:56
pauldaousths: you using Boolean operators there, or you just really feel passionate about Hula?08:56
b0uncerdamn how can I login to Gnome :<08:56
intelikeyb0uncer from ?08:57
pauldaousths: ping...08:57
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b0uncerintelikey: from what/where?08:57
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intelikeyconsole ? b0uncer08:58
b0uncerfrom my own pc through gdm08:58
b0uncer:/08:58
b0uncerI don't even get an error-msg08:58
b0uncerjust a brown background and a mouse cursor08:58
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pauldaoustb0uncer: sometimes I can rectify that by rebooting. There's probably a better way to do it, but I haven't discovered it.08:58
intelikeyhmmm ah sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm08:59
b0uncerpauldaoust: I updated Gnome yesterday (nautilus stuff), and booted my pc this morning08:59
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b0uncerso I ought to try rebooting?08:59
b0uncerhmm..08:59
pauldaoustb0uncer: hm. so that's what you came up with first thing?08:59
b0unceris there a somekind of Gnome's "config" file in my home dir, that might cause this?08:59
intelikeyand b0uncer 'rm ~/.*autrority '09:00
pauldaoustb0uncer: one question; I arrived in this conversation late. You get GDM, but it just won't start up your GNOME session once you log in, right?09:00
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JaNezhi all09:00
JaNezhow i can star the live cd?09:00
b0uncerintelikey: didn't help09:00
b0uncerpauldaoust: that's right09:01
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pauldaoustb0uncer: try this: log in using the 'failsafe' session, which should bring up just a single terminal. then go sudo chown b0uncer.b0uncer ~/.ICEauthority (of course substituting your proper username for b0uncer)09:01
intelikeytypo   .*authority      i had an extra r  sorry.09:01
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b0uncerpauldaoust: first time I got "Your session lasted less than 10 seconds" -message, but afterwards nothing09:01
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rubikone question, can i add debian sources list to my ubuntu sources list ??09:01
pauldaoustrubik: yes, but you might get some compatibility problems. Some people do it with success; some don't.09:02
intelikeyrubik yep and it will wreck the whole install  :)09:02
pauldaoustb0uncer: yeah, that sounds really familiar. um, yeah, try the ~/.ICEauthority thingy.09:02
rubiklol really09:02
rubik?09:02
rubiki dont find a lot of programs i used in my debian09:02
JaNezhow i can star the live cd?09:02
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intelikeyrubik  !repos09:02
pauldaoustJaNez: just pop it in your CD drive and restart09:02
rubikenlightenment and a lot of more are not in ubuntu sources list09:02
hsJaNez, put to cdrom and boot09:02
rubik!repos09:02
intelikey!repos09:02
pauldaoustrubik: e16 is there... you probably want e17 though, right?09:03
JaNezhs i have benn booted09:03
intelikeylol   oops.09:03
JaNezwhat is the command?09:03
rubikrite09:03
pauldaoustb0uncer: then log out of your failsafe session (just type 'exit' in the xterm) and try to log in using the regular GNOME session.09:03
JaNezfor type in the screen09:03
b0uncerpauldaoust: checked out, .ICEautority is owned by the user I'm trying to login with09:03
b0unceralready09:03
pauldaoustb0uncer: poop09:03
JaNezhs09:03
rubiki type apt-cache search enlightenment and it doesnt find nothing09:03
hsJaNez, you have DVD?09:03
JaNezc09:03
JaNezcd09:03
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hsJaNez, what is it is saying able to boot?09:04
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trinidadhow do i change the size of the icons in the menubar09:04
trinidad?09:04
JaNezthe screen of ubuntu09:04
JaNezand say the option "press to install" :/09:04
rubikwell tnz anyway09:04
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pauldaoustb0uncer: hm, try going rm /tmp/*bouncer* (again substituting your proper username) and then try to log into a graphical session?09:04
JaNezomfg09:05
JaNezi have download the install version09:05
JaNez:/09:05
Nitewalkerhello everyone i was hoping someone could help me ive used synaptic to do some updates for xine and ive also loaded up the w32codecs as well but im still unable to play avi of my brothers wedding im wondering if anyone knows how i can get it to work?09:05
hsJaNez, then go ahead it wil not ask for partition09:05
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b0uncerpauldaoust: still didn't help :/09:05
pauldaoustb0uncer: poop poop poop09:05
pauldaoustb0uncer: I'm stumped; not sure what to suggest now. when you say you updated GNOME... have you just not done any updates for a while, or...?09:06
hsJaNez, are you sure it is live cd i guess it is installer cd09:06
b0uncerpauldaoust: last update before that was a week ago09:07
b0uncernext yesterday evening09:07
pauldaoustb0uncer: that's funny; I haven't seen any updates to GNOME lately.09:07
b0unceryesterday evening everything worked just smoothly (though I didn't log out)09:07
b0uncerpauldaoust: nautilus updates09:07
b0uncerI meant09:07
b0uncerbut that's part of Gnome09:07
pauldaoustb0uncer: guess I installed them without noticing what they were ^_^09:08
b0uncerI only wonder why other people have no problems even after they have updated the same pkgs as I have09:08
b0uncerI don't get it09:08
pauldaoustb0uncer: it's the perennial question.09:08
pauldaoust(unfortunately, from experience, Windows is no better)09:08
B_166-ER-Xhow do i start a service on breezy ?09:08
pauldaoustB_166-ER-X: if you're fond of the command line, all the service startup scripts are in /etc/init.d09:09
pauldaoustB_166-ER-X: otherwise, you can go System > Administration > Services to get a funky graphical one09:09
B_166-ER-Xthx09:09
pauldaoustnp09:09
b0uncerpauldaoust: I'll try rebooting (this is a situation where only magic can help, it seems) so I'll be back in a moment09:09
intelikeywhat xorg server modules are needed for minamal gui  freetype?  bitmap?    type1?  ????09:09
b0uncer-->09:09
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pauldaoustb0uncer: good luck :)09:09
intelikeynone ?09:09
pauldaoustintelikey: I'm intrigued; what are you attempting/09:10
pauldaoust?09:10
intelikeymake x work on this dinosore09:10
pauldaoustintelikey: gotcha. well, I'd say that... hmm, one sec.09:11
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hit3kHow do I define zones in shorewall config?09:12
pauldaoustintelikey: hum. I'd probably turn off GLX and GLcore... freetype is essential; I don't imagine bitmap uses much resources09:12
vbgunzanybody know how to get a list of streaming radio networks for Rhythmbox?09:12
b0unceromg....the Windows Black Magic (aka reboot) helped!09:12
b0uncerI can't believe my eyes09:12
b0uncerfirst time in years when I have to reboot linux to get it working09:12
intelikeyk  and type1 is probably needed too ?09:12
b0uncerduhh09:12
vbgunzb0uncer: what did rebooting help you with?09:12
pauldaoustvbgunz: search for 'shoutcast' on the 'Net... the Winamp website also has a good list of shoutcast stations09:12
pauldaoustb0uncer: congranulations!09:13
b0uncervbgunz, I was unable to login to Gnome09:13
vbgunzahh09:13
pauldaoustintelikey: biggest thing is to make sure composite is turned off, of course :)09:13
LathropWellsvbgunz - no that is a toughie - streamtuner has a hundred or so for xmms09:13
b0uncerpauldaoust, thanks for all the tips :) hehe09:13
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pauldaoustintelikey: you must have very, very cramped resources if you can't get X to run...09:13
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vbgunzpauldaoust: I know about shoutcast... I meant a way to easily import a list of hundreds of stations or something...09:13
pauldaoustb0uncer: no problem; glad they helped.09:13
pauldaoustvbgunz: naw, sorry mate09:13
siimoanyone know if ooo 2.0 will be backported to breezy09:13
vbgunzpauldaoust: its cool09:13
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pauldaoustsiimo: probably. I mean, it already has the beta, or one of the release candidates, or somethng.09:15
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siimopauldaoust, yeah beta is in the cd09:15
pauldaoustsiimo: Ubuntu doesn't do backports (well, at least there are no official backports) but upgrading 1.9.129 to 2.0 isn't so much a backport as an update.09:16
dirksonSay... I need to execute some commands to get my modem working, and it's really starting to get old to copy&paste 'em in at every startup. Can anyone take a look at 'em and tell me where they should go to log in at boot?09:16
siimopauldaoust, hmmm what?09:16
dooglusdirkson: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh09:16
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dirksonReally, that easy? Thanks a lot :D09:16
siimopauldaoust, they do do official backports http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=4709:16
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dooglusdirkson: :D09:17
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siimopauldaoust, its even on the official mirror look : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/09:17
Nitewalkerdoes anyone know who to go about installing xine? im currently downloading xine-lib file at the moment and then i will be downloading xine-ui any help is greatly appriecated09:17
dirksonDooglus: That is -seriously- going to save me some time and effort. Now just to apply the patch so that the internet works for more than 10 minutes >.<09:18
pauldaoustsiimo: that's new... just a week or two ago I saw a notice that said they wouldn't be doing that :-S09:18
pauldaoustanyway, folks, the sandman is calling me. I gotta go sleep.09:19
intelikeymy my this system is bloated.....   i can make my other distro (not to be spamming)  run kde and mozilla with only 300m of files installed this is already above 400m and only fluxbox ......09:19
dooglusdirkson: you've got a patch for that?09:19
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dirksonDooglus: Yah. It's not designed to go on my kernel, though, so I'm gonna have to try to jury-rig it.09:20
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dirksonDooglus: I was really hoping that updating to 2.6.14 would solve my issue, but it didn't. Helped a lot, but didn't solve, and brought in some issues of its own.09:20
intelikeyubangi engeneering ?09:21
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dirksonSay, as long as I'm on here- When I boot my shiney new kernel, it pops up two memory errors, then sits for about two and a half minutes before recommencing boot. Anyone know where I could look to try to see what's going wrong?09:22
dooglusb0uncer: rebooting completely clears out /tmp - maybe that's why it helped...09:22
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dirksonNo guesses? :-/09:23
[Chameleon] try the memory test09:23
[Chameleon] maybe you have bad ram09:23
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b0uncerdooglus, hmm...might be09:24
b0uncerdunno09:24
b0uncerthough I booted my pc this morning, so /tmp had to be empty09:24
marlunis there a nice way of listening to internet radios that requires windows media?09:24
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b0uncerwhich means the problem would have to have created itself in a few seconds09:25
dirksonCould be. That'd make me angry, but it could be. I know my cardbus has some issues with reporting memory oddly, though I'm not sure of the specifivs there09:25
Nitewalkerdoes anyone know the command to unpack tarballs?09:25
b0uncerwhich doesn't sound like a stable system09:25
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b0uncerNigelS, tar -xf09:25
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intelikeydirkson 'dmesg'  might have some info on it.09:25
b0uncerNitewalker, I mean09:25
b0uncernot nigels09:25
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b0uncertar -xf filename.tar or for gzipped, tar -xzf filename.tar.gz or for bzip2ed, tar -xjf filename.tar.bz209:26
dirksonAhhh, thank you : )09:26
b0unceror you could even drop the "-" off and use tar xf instead09:26
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Nitewalkerthank you b0uncer09:27
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Cindyhow can i add user accounts to ldap?09:27
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mattfuryhi.09:29
BROKEN_LADDERhow tight are the ports on a default ubuntu install?09:29
mattfurycould an experienced debian user help me out with a fglrx problem?09:29
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rabeldableanyone know which music players support shockwave streaming?09:31
daHippohi09:31
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daHippone1 here use opera?09:32
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dirksonHmm....... Looking in my dmseg, I find this: NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86_64 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-7676  Fri Jul 29 13: 15:16 PDT 200509:32
dirksondevice-mapper: 4.4.0-ioctl (2005-01-12) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com09:32
dirksondevice-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed09:32
dirksondevice-mapper: error adding target to table09:32
dirkson - But the last two lines are repeated about fifty times. Anyone have any clues as to what's going on -there-?09:32
gerbmanwhat's the fglrx problem?09:33
rabeldabledirkson: do you have a 64bit cpu?09:33
mattfury?09:33
mattfuryohh sorry, installing 2.6.14.109:33
mattfury(kernel)09:33
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mattfurycan you help with another problem first?09:34
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dirksonrabeldable: Amd64, yes09:34
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henkcomfigure fails on me because it says c++ cannot create executables. The configure.log says that it cannot find g++, c++ etc. It is right because in stead of g++ on my system i have g++-VERSION with a few different versions. Should i somehow telll me system which g++ to use ?09:34
mattfurygerbman, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/434409:34
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mattfuryis the first kernel problem.09:35
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cdubyaah, I think I may have accidentally added a host in the networking applet and now I have a sit0 entry in ifconfig....lo isn't answering anymore on 127.0.0.1 and I need to get rid of the sit0 and get lo back on 127.0.0.1.....can someone help me out.....09:35
dirksonrabeldable: Yes, amd64. Why do you ask?09:35
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mattfurythis is the ati problem ... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/434509:36
mattfuryquake will work though :D09:36
gerbmanreally not sure about the kernel problem09:36
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daHippohelp?09:37
daHippone1 know opera?09:37
Nitewalkeri dont sorry daHippo09:38
raphinkwhich one? Carmen?09:38
aeon17xdaHippo: proper English please.09:38
raphinkFigaro?09:38
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daHippoOh, sorry.09:38
dooglusBROKEN_LADDER: there are no listening ports on a default ubuntu install09:38
mattfurygerbman, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/434509:38
mustard5!opera09:39
dirksonrabeldable: Yes, amd64. Why do you ask?09:39
sexcopter8000mdaHippo, I don't know opera, but you really need to just ask a proper quesiton: explain what your exact problem/question is and what you've tried already09:39
mustard5ubuto: tell daHippo about opera09:39
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daHippoOpera, as in the Web Browser Opera (www.opera.com)09:39
vladuz976anybody know a good program to genreate thumbnails?09:39
dooglusdaHippo: you need to ask a question09:39
daHippoOk09:40
raphinkyes most of us know opera daHippo , now what's your problem?09:40
mustard5daHippo, download from the opera website09:40
gerbmani'm not sure, i installed the fglrx driver from package09:40
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dirkson - But the last two lines are repeated about fifty times. Anyone have any clues as to what's going on -there-?09:40
dirksonHmm....... Looking in my dmseg, I find this: NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86_64 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-7676  Fri Jul 29 13: 15:16 PDT 200509:40
dirksondevice-mapper: 4.4.0-ioctl (2005-01-12) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com09:40
dooglusvladuz976: imagemagick is good at making thumbnails, amongst other things09:40
mattfuryim using the flavio driver ...09:40
dirksondevice-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed09:40
dirksondevice-mapper: error adding target to table09:40
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dirkson - But the last two lines are repeated about fifty times. Anyone have any clues as to what's going on -there-?09:40
daHippoI've connected to a windows printer, through ubuntu, and can print from all my apps, but in opera, the printer doesnt show up09:40
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mustard5heh09:41
raphinkopera sux (hehe)09:41
sexcopter8000mdirkson, you're spamming. don't do it.09:41
raphinkkonqui powa :)09:41
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kapputurabeldable, I got the printer working, the problem was with the printer itself09:41
raphinkdaHippo: does the printer show up in qt apps, like konqueror ?09:41
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gerbmanhenk, did you try installing the build-essential package09:41
dirksonSorry. It's all part of one coherent message, there's just a lot of it.09:41
dooglusdaHippo: I don't have a printer, and I don't use Opera, so I can't help you, other than to suggest that it might be a good idea to use free software - that way people have more of a chance to help you.09:42
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sexcopter8000mdirkson, then use pastebin, don't paste messages here09:42
daHippoI don't have Konq, but it shows up in Firefox and prints fine from it09:42
raphinkI'm asking about konqueror daHippo09:42
raphinknot about firefox09:42
daHippoOpera is free (but not opensource)09:42
dirksonAnd may I remark how ironic I find it to be lectured on ettiquite by a fellow with a name such as yours : )09:42
sexcopter8000mdirkson, heh09:43
kapputuhow do I edit sources.list to include extra repositories for Breezy?09:43
daHippoI didn't install konqueror09:43
mustard5kapputu sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list will open it in an editor....09:44
mustard5ubotu: tell kapputu about sources09:44
raphinkhow did you install opera daHippo ?09:44
daHipposynaptic09:44
Nitewalkeronce you have unpacked a tarball can u install it jst from the desktop or do u have to go to where its stored?09:44
mustard5kapputu, and ubotu has sent you links to sources information09:44
MadpilotdaHippo: I run Opera all the time, and just tried printing - it went fine... maybe have a look in Opera's printing options to make sure it sees your printer?09:44
raphinkMadpilot: that's the thing, his printers are not listed in Opera09:45
henkgerbman, ah that helped09:45
raphinkI dn't have such a pb either. My printers all show in opera09:45
daHippothat box is empty - no printers show up like in other apps09:45
gerbmanhenk, cool09:45
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MadpilotdaHippo: what make/model of printer?09:45
daHippoHP Laserjet 332009:45
gerbmannite, depends on what's in the tarball....does it need to be compiled?09:46
raphinkthe model shouldn't matter09:46
raphinkif it works in other apps09:46
MadpilotdaHippo: HP should just work...09:46
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raphinkthen CUPS should just provide it to opera aswell09:46
Nitewalkergerbman, ive jst finished downloading xine-lib tarball09:46
raphinkit's not a pb of compatibility with the printer09:46
raphinksince the printer isn't even listed09:46
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MadpilotdaHippo: you might want to ask on the Opera forums - there's a Linux forum there09:46
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daHippoIt does work, except for Opera...  This Opera install is driving me crazy.09:47
raphinkI would think the opera version you installed has not been properly compiled09:47
raphinkI think opera is not in the main repos09:47
raphinksince it's not opensource09:47
daHippoI also have the openmotif issue, but I don't care much about plugin09:47
MadpilotdaHippo: are you running the static deb Opera or the one supposedly for Breezy Badger?09:47
raphinkso you may have used a repos that had a bad version of opera09:47
gerbmannite, everything i've installed from source has been on the command line with "configure" and "make"09:48
daHippoI added it09:48
Madpilotraphink: Opera come in deb files, not from repos, usually.09:48
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raphinkMadpilot: I have it on repos09:48
raphinkif you install the repos, you get it on repos09:48
raphink:p09:48
daHippodeb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free09:48
henkgerbman, i had all the packages installed manualy but the enviroment seemed to be incomplete. I had already fixed that by exporting the CXX var. But this build essentials seems to be the part needed to glue it all together in the proper way09:48
raphinkdaHippo: that is the debian repos I guess09:48
Madpilotmy bad, I'd forgotten there are Opera repos too09:48
dooglusdaHippo: non-free?  you just told me it was free software09:48
raphinkI don't use this repos daHippo09:49
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Madpilotdooglus: free as in beer for Opera09:49
raphinklol09:49
kappututhanks mustard509:49
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daHippowell, I don't know but that's what the ubuntu wiki says09:49
mustard5kapputu, good luck09:49
daHippoif you go to the website, you can DL it for free09:49
MadpilotdaHippo: download the static deb version and install it - I cannot get the "Breezy Badger" version to actually run properly on Breezy - I've filed a couple of bugs w/ Opera about it09:50
kappututhanks mustard5 , it feels weird, I have been using Ubuntu for almost an year now but not regularly09:50
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kapputuI have to learn everything again now09:50
Nitewalkercan anyone help me after unpacking the xine-lib tarball i cant get it to configure and install that particular part can anyone tell me how to get it to install that part?09:50
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raphinkI installed the static version daHippo09:50
kapputuI got rid of windows finally from my laptop and have two ubuntus09:51
raphinkthat's what you should do I tink09:51
raphinkhink09:51
gerbmannite, what kind of error are you getting09:51
kappututhe old one was broken during a hoary unstable update but it still runs ok though a little slowly09:51
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Madpilotraphink: you've had trouble with the non-static Breezy deb of Opera too?09:51
raphinkno09:52
raphinkI just installed static09:52
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raphinkthere must be a reason for that09:52
daHippoI added it to the repository, and then searched for opera - found two instances.  The first "Opera" doesn't install riht and gives me an "libqt3c102-mt" error, so I tried the "Opera Static" and it installed fine.  But I also get the motif error, but I don't care so much about plugins.09:52
raphinkso it must have been said somewhere to use static for ubuntu09:52
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mustard5kapputu, ask any questions you need to09:52
kapputumustard5, can you give me a link to install the media players and stuff or would ubuntuguide.org suffice?09:52
mustard5kapputu, I have better links09:52
kapputuI'm just curious as to whether ubuntuguide.org is up to date09:52
daHippoSo yeah, I'm running the static version too.09:52
onispawndoes anyone know how I can make it so my usb harddrive doesnt auto-mount as read only?09:52
Madpilotraphink: I'm running static right now, I think it might mention using it on the wiki's Opera page..09:53
Nitewalkergerbman,  when i go to use the ./configure make install it says that ./configure: no such file or directory and thats the same for the make install as well09:53
kapputuyes mustard5 I would be interested in them09:53
raphinkanyway I don't like opera Madpilot so I don't use it09:53
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daHippoYes, I have a printout of the wiki09:53
Madpilotraphink: I couldn't function without it - Firefox is too limited and I can't be bothered to mess with all the extensions I'd need to get working in FF...09:53
mustard5kapputu, I would mention too, that in breezy there is a ubuntu starters guide in your system>>help menu09:53
gerbmannite, did you change into the directory containing 'configure'?09:53
raphinkI only use Konqui Madpilot09:53
raphinkFF is not very good either I agree09:54
mustard5kapputu, it has quite a bit of information on setting up for playing movies and music09:54
kapputumustard5, I'm using a laptop - how do I configure the touch pad?09:54
Madpilotanyway, need sleep... later, all09:54
mustard5kapputu, that i'm not sure about ;)09:54
Nitewalkergerbman,  no cos it said it was going to put it in /usr/local but i dont know who to navigate there09:54
daHippoWell, on this box, opera is the only thing that runs decent.  FF is way slow here, but Opera screams.09:54
mustard5ubotu:tell kapputu about w32codecs09:54
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Nitewalkergerbman,  im using the terminal feature and well im new to command line stuff09:54
mustard5ubotu:tell kapputu about msgthebot09:55
raphinkdaHippo: for gnome users maybe ;)09:55
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MadpilotdaHippo: try the static Opera deb, it does work fine in Breezy... Hoary didn't have these problems... :(09:55
spackestanyone here ever get mod_log_spread working for apache2 in 5.04 or 5.10?09:55
onispawndoes anyone know how I can make it so my usb harddrive doesnt auto-mount as read only?09:55
daHippoyeah, but gnome works better on this box than KDE09:55
mustard5kapputu, you might find it easier to read the msgthebot instructions and talk to ubotu (the help bot) yourself09:55
gerbmannite, no problem....you need to change into the directory where you unpacked the tar09:55
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gerbmanconfigure should be there09:56
daHippoMadpilot:  I am using the static Opera deb09:56
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raphinkdaHippo: gnome is faster than KDE when you have few programs, but KDE has many more options and is more performant when you run lots of apps at the same time09:56
mustard5kapputu, I can coach you on some of the most common keywords he recognises09:56
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rejdenaloha09:56
raphinkdaHippo: additionnaly I can't stand the way gnome looks ;)09:56
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rejdenanybody have some experience with ubuntu and sun ray server software?09:56
Nitewalkergerbman,  thanks i will try that now09:56
kapputusure mustard509:56
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kapputuI'm ready09:56
daHippoWell, I just wanted to use this box primarily as a 'net box.09:57
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daHippoLooks clean to me - and that's good, since I'm a neat freak :)09:57
mustard5kapputu, you can use the keywords like java mplayer w32codecs ummmm...can't think of others off the top of my head :)09:57
mgcrossI need some help setting up shared folders...when I open the dialog box it's all greyed out09:57
raphinkdaHippo: same here, but net is a large thing ;) I run about 12 GUI apps on 12 desktops09:57
raphinkfull screen :)09:57
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kapputuoops09:58
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mustard5kapputu, for instance for java install instructions type /msg ubotu java  or /msg ubotu javadebs09:58
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kapputumustard5, I'm just getting a message 'java'09:58
daHippoWell, I used to do stuff like that, but I don't anymore.  Now my fastest workstation only has 3 monitors09:58
mustard5kapputu, look for the pm from ubotu...its sometimes takes a while to arrive09:59
raphink3 dekstops you mean09:59
kapputumustard5, the pm was just 'java' or 'javadebs'09:59
onispawndoes anyone know how I can make it so my usb harddrive doesnt auto-mount as read only?09:59
mustard5kapputu, yeah...do you have a private message window open called ubotu?10:00
kapputuyes10:00
Nitewalkerwheres the best place to get basic commands that you use in command line?10:00
mustard5kapputu look in there for the java stuff10:00
mustard5kapputu, he sends the answer to there10:00
locomortohey mustard5 I got the latest version of mondo running on breezy!10:00
locomorto:)10:00
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kapputuyes mustard5 that's what I did10:00
mustard5locomorto, yeah?10:00
mustard5locomorto, from that thread?10:00
mgcrossI have two machines - one with two nics, using ics ala firestarter to give net access to the second machine. Both are running 5.1010:01
locomortoNo that was an old version10:01
kapputuif I typed in / msg ubotu java I get a message in that window that just says 'java'10:01
daHippoOh, I ment a triple display units - I don't use the desktop thing because I can't see the windows all simulaneously.10:01
mustard5locomorto, I read the thread I started a while ago and there was something about useing something from hoary10:01
mgcrosscan't get nfs to work..10:01
kapputumustard5, how do I get the msg about w32codecs like you did?10:01
cyphasei haven't been following the Gaim issues that have been talked about recently..10:01
cyphasebut does anyone think it may need to be forked?10:01
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mustard5kapputu, no space between the / and msg10:01
raphinkNitewalker: try http://vic.gedris.org/Manual-ShellIntro/1.2/ShellIntro.pdf10:01
raphinkseems quite good10:01
locomortoyeah, that was old and it wasn't a good way to do it (package names change == bad package management)10:02
mustard5kapputu, it is /msg ubotu java10:02
mustard5kapputu, is your nick registered?10:02
gerbmannite, or just type 'ls /bin' ;p10:02
locomorto!tell kapputu about java10:02
kapputumustard5, I know I was just showing you what I typed since I wasn't sure if it would invoke the command10:02
raphinksure gerbman but that doesn't explain how to use them ;)10:02
mustard5kapputu, is your nick registered?10:02
gerbman'man <cmd'10:02
naliothmustard5: kapputu is not identified10:02
mustard5nalioth, doh10:02
afd_hi! my hardrive is working a lot in the last several days, and I don't know why. Is there any software that I can use to find out what's happening (Unbuntu Breezy user)10:02
mustard5kapputu, register your nick :)10:03
mustard5!register10:03
locomortoafd_: its probably dead10:03
uboturumour has it, register is type /msg nickserv help register10:03
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kapputumustard5, my nick is registered10:03
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raphinkNitewalker: if you read the doc I sent you the url of, you'll have the basics10:03
naliothkapputu: then identify10:03
locomortoafd_: but you can try spinrite to fix it10:03
locomortoafd_: its not free, or open source though10:03
cyphaseafd_, try looking at the system monitor10:03
cyphasesee if there are any programs that might be causing it10:03
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kapputumustard5, got that working, thanks10:04
kapputumustard5, can I get a list of keywords?10:04
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mustard5kapputu, sorry..I should have thought of that first ;)10:04
spiralhi10:04
mgcrossany help on nfs?10:04
mustard5kapputu, ask ubotu about himself and find the way to his 'brain' :)10:04
afd_system monitor is broken. I've got the bublemon applet showing 20%, and the graphs in system monitor are showing 100% cpu usage10:04
mustard5kapputu, his brain is a website containing all keywords10:05
cyphaseafd_, i think you probably have a rouge process or something10:05
cyphaselol10:05
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dooglusdaHippo: afd_ run "top" in a terminal window10:05
kapputuhaha, do not play with me in any channel10:06
dooglusafd_ run "top" in a terminal window10:06
naliothubotu: tell mgcross about nfs10:06
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afd_dooglus, any possibility to show disk activity10:06
daHippowhat does that do?10:06
kapputuwas ubotu written in Python?10:06
dooglusafd_: I wish I knew10:06
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doogluskapputu: ubotu is a blootbot apparently - you can google it10:07
mustard5kapputu, his brain is at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:07
afd_now the disk activity has stopped. Maybe it was that I've just boot up10:08
dooglusmy internet access has gone away - I can't resolve any addresses, and I can't ping anything.  but this IRC connection is still working.  very weird.10:08
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dooglusafd_: if you haven't booted for a day or so, the updatedb thing will run, making a list of all the files on your disk10:08
dirksonI'm getting the following error during boot. The last two lines of it repeat about fifty times. Does anyone know what exactly it's doing?10:08
dirksonNVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86_64 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-7676  Fri Jul 29 13: 15:16 PDT 200510:08
dirksondevice-mapper: 4.4.0-ioctl (2005-01-12) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com10:08
dirksondevice-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed10:08
dirksondevice-mapper: error adding target to table10:08
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dooglusafd_: it runs the first time you boot each day, or at 7:30, whichever comes first10:08
kapputumustard5, yeah I found that out, I was looking at the factoids10:09
naliothdirkson: please dont paste in here10:09
afd_dooglus, thanks10:09
rabeldabledooglus: maybe your having a DNS problem10:09
dooglusrabeldable: maybe.  but I can't ping to ip addresses either, so I think it's more than that.10:09
dirksonAh, er, sorry. Is there another way to get the message across?10:09
mustard5kapputu, k :)  that she keep you busy for a while ;)10:10
naliothubotu: tell dirkson about paste10:10
mustard5*should10:10
intelikey!paste10:10
ubotuit has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text10:10
naliothdirkson: see /topic also10:10
rabeldabledooglus: can you ping localhost?10:10
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kapputumustard5, do you remember how to install stuff from the source but still have apt know about it so that it can uninstall it?10:10
dooglusrabeldable: yes.  it's quite fast, too.10:10
naliothubotu: tell kapputu about checkinstall10:10
mustard5kapputu, not really, what are you wanting to install?10:11
rabeldabledooglus: what about your gateway?10:11
naliothubotu: tell mustard5 about checkinstall10:11
dooglusrabeldable: it's fine.  I can access the web server on the gateway, too10:11
kapputumustard5, mplayer10:11
mustard5:)10:11
mustard5kapputu, mplayer is in the repositories10:11
rabeldabledooglus: but the problem is past that?10:11
kapputumustard5, from Breezy?10:11
rabeldabledooglus: ping yahoo or google10:12
dooglusrabeldable: ping 64.233.187.99 tells me "17 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 15996ms" when I eventually control-c it10:12
kapputumustard5, I had problems the last time I tried to install it from the repositories, had to compile src10:12
dooglusrabeldable: that's google.com (according to this machine I'm ssh'ed into for IRC'ing)10:12
intelikeyi need a fether weight x terminal  ?10:12
mustard5kapputu, did you have trouble on hoary or breezy?10:12
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naliothubotu: tell kapputu about mplayer10:12
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rabeldabledooglus: try a telnet 64.233.187.99 8010:13
mgcrosswhy does the shared folders gui not show anything? its all greyed out?10:13
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naliothmgcross: do you have multiple users on your box?10:13
mustard5kapputu, I havent seen anyone strike any issues on breezy10:13
dooglusrabeldable: Trying 64.233.187.99...10:13
mgcrossnope...just one10:13
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kapputumustard5, I just installed breezy today after getting my laptop repaired10:13
kapputuubuntu is very addictive, I ought to be sleeping now10:14
naliothmgcross: then what are you going to share?10:14
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mustard5kapputu, I'd install as much as possible from the standard repositories ...they tend to not be box breakers10:14
rabeldabledooglus: you say your ssh'd into a different box that does the irc?10:14
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dooglusrabeldable: I would think that this whole situation could be explained by saying that the gateway box wasn't connected to the internet.  except - I'm currently talking to you!10:15
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mgcrossnalioth: I want to be able to transfer files between my two machines...one is acting as a gateway to the net (using firestarter and a second nic)10:15
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naliothmgcross: are they both *nix boxen?10:15
lewionhow to identify??10:15
dooglusrabeldable: that's write.  I ssh into a shell, run 'screen' there, and irssi from inside screen.  then I can reboot without disconnecting from IRC10:15
Ethanhi, how can I give root right to a user?10:15
kapputuyeah some doofus suggested that I remove the firefox that comes from the repo and install manually, screwed up the system10:15
mgcrossI can't print from the secong machine either...been though all the guides I can get my hands on...<sigh> stupid noob10:15
dooglusrabeldable: I can't ping the box that I'm ssh'ed onto though!10:15
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mustard5Ethan, do you mean sudo?10:15
naliothubotu: tell lewion about register10:15
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dooglusEthan: "sudo adduser <username> admin"10:16
rabeldabledooglus: try a telnet 64.233.187.99 80 from the ssh'd box10:16
mgcrossnalioth: yes, both breazy 5.1010:16
EthanI dunno sudo, will try10:16
marcohey guys, i'm trying to make a mp3/data cd... what command/program should i use?10:16
dooglusrabeldable: that works, of course: "Connected to 64.233.187.99."10:16
daHippoStupid question:  What is "sudo"?10:16
dooglusrabeldable: the ssh box is in a different country.10:16
dooglusdaHippo: it allows you to run commands as root10:16
rabeldablesudo = super user do10:16
kapputusudo - do as super user10:16
daHippoah, thanks10:17
Ethan~$ sudo adduser user admin10:17
EthanPassword:10:17
Ethanuser is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.10:17
Ethan:$10:17
intelikeyooops E: Package libmad0 has no installation candidate10:17
mustard5Ethan, are you the admin on that machine?10:17
dooglusEthan: you need to run it as a user who already has root privs...10:17
rabeldabledooglus: try a ping to the box thats having problems from the ssh box10:17
dooglusEthan: otherwise where's the security?10:17
Ethanyup that was my problem10:17
mustard5Ethan, or have you just installed using expert install?10:17
Ethanok that is fine now10:17
dooglusrabeldable: the router wouldn't forward ping requests to it10:18
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rabeldabledooglus: see if its a one way problem or both way problem10:18
EthanI used the gui to remove right to me and I was a bit confused after lol10:18
marcoanyone know if there's a "nero" type of program that i can use for obuntu?10:18
kapputuI like ubuntu just for apt alone10:18
lewionit says my password is incorrect????10:18
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lewioni made this nickname it cannot be10:18
AxLhi !10:18
Ethank3b10:18
dooglusrabeldable: I can set up a forwarded port though and run a 'nc' listener on this box10:18
AxLGot az prob with grub10:18
AxLCa nu help me please ?10:18
b0unceraz?10:19
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AxLa prob sorry :)10:19
mustard5lewion, what is your problem?10:19
b0uncerok :D10:19
b0uncerwhat's it like?10:19
rabeldabledooglus: when you caonnect to your router from the broke box can you see the IP information that it has assigned from your ISP?10:19
lewionmustard5, it keeps saying my pass is incorrect10:19
mustard5lewion, what does?10:19
Nitewalkerconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH10:19
NitewalkerSee `config.log' for more details. i get this error when i try to configure xine-lib what do i need to do now?10:19
AxLb0uncer: can u help me on this please ?10:19
lewionmustard5, i made this nick so why should it be incorrect10:19
marcodoes anyone know what cd burning program i can use?10:19
mustard5lewion, in irc?10:19
mgcrossnalioth: any idea why I can't use the shared folder dialog box...where should I start looking to fix it...was working, now, not10:20
lewionmustard5, ??10:20
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gerbmannite, have you installed the 'build-essential' package?10:20
Paradoxx...i want to burn a .avi file to DVD, so that it can be played in a dvd player, what application would you all recommend?10:20
rabeldablemarco: gnomebaker10:20
b0uncerAxL, if you tell what the problem is?10:20
b0uncer:)10:20
marcorabeldable, thanks10:20
onispawnParadoxx: there is a version of nero for linux10:20
b0uncerso I could perhaps try to help, at least10:20
onispawnor use gnomebaker10:20
mustard5lewion, someone else might have been using it first10:20
Paradoxxonispawn: free?10:20
Nitewalkergerbman,  what is that?10:20
lewionmustard5, look it says my nick is already registered, that maybe thrue cause i once registered myself 3 months ago10:20
onispawnparadoxx: its not free10:21
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mustard5lewion, and you are using the same password from back then?10:21
Paradoxxfigured..10:21
lewionmustard5, i dunno anymore10:21
Paradoxxonispawn: is there any other app out there?10:21
Ethaner ... how can I install dluxbox on ubunto ? apt-get search fluxbox outputs nothing but on debien I had it....10:21
onispawngnomebaker is just as good as nero and is free10:21
intelikeymarco k3b nautilus-cd-burner eroast xcdroast  and there are problably more gui cd burning apps ou10:21
mustard5lewion, thats the password you need then I would think10:21
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lewionmustard5, damn10:21
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gerbmannite, sorry, wrong thing....you need the c compiler10:22
mustard5lewion, register a new nick10:22
dooglusrabeldable: the remote ssh box can't talk back to my router, apparently.10:22
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mustard5lewion,  or try to remember your password :)10:22
Nitewalkergerbman,  what is that how do i get that thing ?10:22
dooglusrabeldable: (except through the existing connection that I'm using for this IRC session...)10:22
lewionmustard5, how do you change the nick?10:22
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naliothmgcross: i have no idea about shared folders. try nfs (unix) or samba (*nix + windows)10:22
gerbmannite, search for the g++ package and install that...i should bring a bunch of other stuff with it10:22
mustard5lewion, /nick newnick10:23
Ethan/nick newnick10:23
lewionk10:23
dpuppgot a problem, i cant seem to setup wep encryption properly in ubuntu. everything works without but when turned on in the router,ubuntu wont connect. im using key 3... but i dont see where to specify key 3.10:23
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intelikeyethan apt-get install fluxbox10:23
newnickshit10:23
newnick:p10:23
mustard5not literally newnick  ;)10:23
gerbmannite, just curious...can you install the xine package?10:23
newnickok10:23
gerbmaninstead of compiling from source10:23
newnickright10:23
AxLb0uncer: Got 3 entries in menu : Linux (+Kernels ...) + XP2 + XP1. XP1 is default. If i wait till timeout XP1 begins to load but doesn't : it just prints the menulist for itself. However if I press enter XP1 begins to load till the end ?! Curious ?!10:23
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[L|eWiOn] voila10:23
[L|eWiOn] ok and now?10:23
[L|eWiOn] now register?10:24
Nitewalkergerbman,  i jst got that of the xine website if there is something like a package would would be easier10:24
mustard5[L|eWiOn] , thats a pain to type in10:24
phiqtionnalioth, how do i remove the icon that represents my mount folder in the desktop?10:24
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Ethanintelikey,  like I said "apt-get search fluxbox outputs nothing"10:24
mustard5[L|eWiOn] , pick an easier one for people to use autocomplete on10:24
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gerbmannite, there definitely is :)...install the xine-ui package i think10:24
[L|eWiOn] no can do10:24
intelikeyof course you dont do apt-get search Ethan10:24
Nitewalkerwhere would i go to find that?10:25
Paradoxxonispawn: will it aconvert the avis to the neccesary dvd format?10:25
b0uncerAxL, hmm...wait I think for a minute10:25
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gerbmanfrom the command line do 'sudo apt-get install xine-ui'10:25
mustard5[L|eWiOn] , ah well..I would get sick of typing your nick out personally :)10:25
AxLok thx :)10:25
phiqtionhow do i remove the icon in the desktop that represents my mount folder?10:25
EthanIf there is no fluxbox I don't understand how I would install it :p10:25
mustard5[L|eWiOn] , its a pain in the butt using shift characters like that when I am trying to autocomplete a nick10:25
[L|eWiOn] mustard5, you do that! :D10:25
intelikeyEthan you use apt-cache search      install it with 'sudo apt-get install fluxbox ' like i said.10:25
[L|eWiOn] it's not that hard10:25
Ethanyup cache10:26
Ethanit was I have done10:26
Ethanbut i don't have fluxbox10:26
dpuppis wep encryption case sensitive?10:26
intelikey!repos10:26
ubotuI guess repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource10:26
intelikeyEthan ^10:26
phiqtionhow do i remove the icon in the desktop that represents my mount folder?10:26
Nitewalkergerbman,  its installing some some stuff10:26
[L|eWiOn] hey i'm registered :)10:26
onispawnParadoxx: no, but you can use transcode to convert it from .avi to dvd format a pretty decent guide to do that is http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=11770910:26
gerbmannite, that's good...so you just trying to get dvd playback to work?10:26
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b0uncerAxL, did you get my /query ?10:27
Ethanfluxbox is not on ubuntu? Does ubuntu and debian have not the same "apps" ?10:27
Paradoxxonispawn: ty much dude, i'll give it a try10:27
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b0uncerdarn, msgs are denied :/ that sucks10:27
kapputuwhy can't I install xine?10:27
b0uncerAxL, this config is what works for me:10:27
AxLb0uncer : your query ?10:27
b0uncertitle           Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition10:27
b0uncerroot            (hd0,1)10:27
b0uncermakeactive10:27
b0uncerchainloader     +110:27
b0uncersorry for pasting...10:27
mustard5b0uncer, are you registered?10:27
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icewtEthan: err... yes it is (?)10:28
AxLBouncer : well it s not so simple for me because I have 2 hdd10:28
intelikeyEthan you are daff.  i just installed fluxbox with the command 'apt-get install fluxbox '  so add the repos like ubotu said and install it. !!!10:28
onispawnanyone know where the automount configurations are?10:28
AxLSo I must do a map() map()10:28
Pazzomorning! I'm currently trying to create a preseed file allowing me to use my local breezy mirror during installation, but all my attempts failed - has anyone done something similar before??10:28
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mustard5AxL, wait till he comes back ;)10:28
[L|eWiOn] ok i have a rpoblem10:28
[L|eWiOn] :(10:28
mustard5AxL, he was just kicked for pasting in channel10:29
[L|eWiOn] my floppy doesn't work10:29
AxLb0uncer : first hdd : Linux/XP2 Second:XP110:29
[L|eWiOn] it keeps saying about a udi problem10:29
[L|eWiOn] ????10:29
Ethanroot@Olympe:/home/user# apt-get install fluxbox10:29
EthanLecture des listes de paquets... Fait10:29
EthanConstruction de l'arbre des dpendances... Fait10:29
EthanE: Impossible de trouver le paquet fluxbox10:29
[L|eWiOn] Given UDI is not a mountable device?????????10:29
AxLmustard5: ?! He pasted 3 lines ?!!!10:29
mustard5Ethan don't paste in main channel plz Ethan10:29
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mustard5AxL, read /topic10:30
naliothAxL: see the /topic please10:30
icewtEthan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/fluxbox10:30
Nitewalkergerbman,  i dont have a dvd player in my computer jst a cdrom10:30
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[L|eWiOn] Given UDI is not a mountable device????????? anyo,e10:30
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Ethanok will use the past next time10:30
kapputuwxpython was used for the widgets right?10:31
AxLok10:31
naliothkapputu: correct10:31
AxLPfff ...10:31
EthanSo how can I get fluxbox? :D10:31
AxLHe s not here anymore ....10:32
AxLI m lost10:32
AxL:)10:32
dooglusrabeldable: hmmm.  I couldn't find the external IP address from the router's web pages.10:32
[L|eWiOn] mustard5, Given UDI is not a mountable device? what do i do??10:32
[L|eWiOn] mustard5, it's about floppy drive btw10:32
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icewtEthan: by enabling the universe repository in /etc/apt/sources.list10:32
AxLGot to go ... nevermind :(10:32
dooglusrabeldable: what I did find though was a "reboot" button, so I clicked it.  when it came back, I had a new IP address, and my existing connection to the IRC machine was broken.  5 minutes later, everything started working again.10:32
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kapputuany good reason why I should try out kubuntu?10:32
dooglusrabeldable: so the old tried-and-trusted "reboot" technique worked...10:33
mustard5[L|eWiOn] , I believe I have read something about a bug in breezy with regards to floppies10:33
intelikeyyou can't Ethan, it is not possable for you to have fluxbox.    cause this is not M$ windows..... sorry.10:33
icewtkapputu: because kde is better than gnome ?-)10:33
gerbmankapputu: i assumed you were using it, given your name ;p10:33
rabeldabledooglus: never fails - except when you reboot and a hard drive fails10:33
hit3kicewt, I got told off for that once10:33
Ethanicewt, how ? :$10:33
[L|eWiOn] mustard5, you don't know it?10:33
Ethanintelikey, ?10:33
Nitewalkergerbman,  its finished doing that command you gave me so now i should be able to watch my brothers wedding avi now?10:33
kapputuicewt, I have been using gubuntu for the past one year10:34
mustard5[L|eWiOn] , I don't know whether its related to your issue or not, but you can search the ubuntuforums if you like..you may find it is10:34
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[L|eWiOn] mustard5, how can i say something in red to the whole channel?10:34
gerbmannitewalker, yea give it a shot...you might need the codecs but try first10:34
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kapputuI intend to use automatix, any suggestions?10:35
nalioth[L|eWiOn] : please refrain from messaging the whole channel10:35
mustard5[L|eWiOn] , it only works for the nickname you type at the start...(which is related to why I wanted you to choose an easier nick;) )10:35
Ethan[L|eWiOn] , by using their name10:35
gerbmannitewalker, if the avi won't play check out http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#codecs10:35
icewtEthan: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" - find the line where it says something about universe, remove the # in front of it, save the file, run "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get install fluxbox"10:35
alxjvris there a way to optimize/tune-up ubuntu? my open windows sometimes just kind of hangs up for several seconds before reacting to any activities10:35
mustard5[L|eWiOn] , to make text appear red to you I have to type your nick at the start and you've made it harder for me to do it :)10:36
onispawndoes anyone know anything about automount?10:36
dooglusrabeldable: I have been experimenting with some encrypted filesystems.  I have large image files on a remote Windows box.  I mount the windows share as a 'cifs' filesystem.  then I mount the image file as a 'loop' device using 'losetup'.  then I mount the loop device using 'cryptsetup'.  I'm using a 'reiserfs' filesystem on top of all that.  and about once a day it gets corrupted, according to reiserfsck.  where do you think the corruption gets introduced?10:36
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mustard5onispawn, automounting windows drive script? or something else?10:36
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daHippodaHippo does it work if you message yourself?10:37
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dooglusalxjvr: are you short of RAM?10:37
hit3kDoes anyone know how I add zones to the shorewall config?10:37
onispawnmustard5: kind of. I have a usb harddrive that is fat32. it automounts as read only so if I want to write to it I have to umount it and mount it again manually. I would like to avoid doing that and just have it automount as r/w10:37
dooglusalxjvr: run "free" in a terminal to see10:37
icewtkapputu: well, if you are happy with gnome and there's nothing missing it that you would need, i guess there's no reason to try kubuntu10:37
[L|eWiOn] mustard5, when i do mount /media/floppy0 it tells me to give the filesort10:37
intelikeydooglus how much ram do you have ?10:38
mustard5onispawn, join #kubuntu-offtopic and I will show you some stuff you can do10:38
intelikeyand dooglus what does free say ?10:38
[L|eWiOn] so what do i do??? mount /media/floppy0 fat32 or something?10:38
dooglusintelikey: I have 384Mb10:38
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mustard5[L|eWiOn] , search the ubuntuforums for answer10:38
Nitewalkerhow do i access the xine-ui ????10:39
alxjvri only have 256MB base10:39
alxjvrdooglus, i only have 256MB base10:39
dooglusintelikey: and it says Mem:        total 354224     used 288196      free 6602810:39
gerbmannitewalker, should just be able to type 'xine' in the command line10:39
dazvidI need a program that will unrar mulitple rar files into one big file. Is that possible with linux?10:39
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alxjvrdooglus, i have:              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached10:39
alxjvrMem:        256100     251732       4368          0       9756     11085610:39
dooglusintelikey: what does free say for you (for total) and what do you really have?10:39
Nitewalkergerbman,  so xine-ui doesnt have a frontend player like totem?10:40
[L|eWiOn] figured it out by myself10:40
intelikeycmeme:         94616      92296       232010:40
dooglusalxjvr: so you have 256Mb and free shows that you have 256100?10:40
[L|eWiOn] anyway thx for helping though10:40
gerbmannitewalker, yes it does...i've just always started it from the command line10:40
alxjvrdooglus,  only around 4MB free10:40
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intelikeyyou always have a percentage free.....10:40
alxjvrdooglus, free = 436810:40
intelikeybut it is never very high.10:41
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gerbmannite, but i use totem to play all my movies10:41
dooglusintelikey: I have about 20% free though - and lots of swap is used10:41
[L|eWiOn] wheres the boot file??? so i can change my floppy over there10:41
Ethanicewt, I am lost :p I have remove comment for 2 lines "breezy universe" but files con be found there...10:41
dooglusintelikey: I have 75Mb swap used, and 66Mb RAM free...  if only those 2 could get together :)10:41
stimpieI'am trying to compile E17 and I'am getting a linking error: /opt/e17/lib/libevas.so: undefined reference to `png_get_IHDR@PNG12_0'10:41
Nitewalkergerbman,  okay then when i tried totem it said i didnt have the right decoders for my avi10:41
alxjvrdooglus, funny, my swap is never used??? -> Swap:       746980          0     74698010:41
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Ethantopic10:42
[L|eWiOn] ?10:42
intelikeywell that is my totals 94616 m total    92296 m used    2320 m free   and no swap10:42
gerbmannitewalker, common problem....check out http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#codecs10:42
intelikeybut i can start x and that wont change much10:42
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dooglusalxjvr: I guess you don't run many big programs then.  I find that firefox alone gets to be over 100Mb pretty soon10:42
[L|eWiOn] mustard5, wheres the boot file located?? i mean the file where you can add floppy cd hard drives to boot10:42
helvetehi.... ummm where can i get some antispyware software for linux?10:42
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mustard5[L|eWiOn] , I dont know10:43
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intelikeywhat i am telling you is that 'free' doesn't tell ya much...10:43
dooglusalxjvr: here's a nice command:    ps -eo 'uname,pid,ppid,sz:6,stime,time,cmd' | perl -pe 'BEGIN{print scalar <>}sub fmt{sprintf "%9s ", sprintf "%.2fMb", (shift)/256.0} s/((?:\S+\s+){2}\S+)(\s+\S+)/&fmt($2).$1/e' | sort -n10:43
alxjvrdooglus, would prelinking help?10:43
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mustard5[L|eWiOn] , oh../etc/fstab10:43
mustard5[L|eWiOn] , hehe10:43
alxjvrdooglus, what would that produce?10:43
dooglusalxjvr: it will show you your processes, sorted in order of memory usage10:43
mustard5[L|eWiOn] , type cat /etc/fstab to view it10:43
[L|eWiOn] mustard5, already had it nvm but heres what i  have for my floppy10:43
[L|eWiOn] /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       010:44
naliothhelvete: spyware? linux has no spyware iirc10:44
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[L|eWiOn] mustard5, thx but i use gedit10:44
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alxjvrdooglus, bulk of it is being used by gambas and apache10:44
dooglusalxjvr: I can't understand how anyone can fit into 256Mb of RAM without swapping...10:44
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alxjvrdooglus, beats me10:44
mustard5[L|eWiOn] , seriously though, check for threads about a bug in breezy with floppies in the ubuntu forums10:44
dooglusI currently have 93Mb of firefox, 61Mb of skype, 46Mb of gnome-terminal - and that's all I'm running!10:45
dooglusthat's almost 200Mb before I've started working :)10:45
intelikeydooglus i just told you i only have 98m here  and run kde in that with no swap.10:45
Nitewalkergerbman,  how do u get it to download dem codecs off that website10:45
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mustard5[L|eWiOn] , use the search function in the forum10:45
dooglusintelikey: how?10:45
intelikeyjust turn swap off.10:46
d^-_-^bWhere is the make file located in Ubuntu?10:46
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gerbmannitewalker, did you follow the how-to guide?10:46
d^-_-^bubotu, tell me where make file is10:46
intelikeymake linux use the ram and not just allocate it out.10:46
dooglusintelikey: then programs would start crashing10:46
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intelikeyi'v only crashed one app that way10:46
dooglusI'll try it...10:46
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dooglusok so far...10:47
Ae|-_GoDWelly, my system does not load the fonts from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ or any other category in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/, any ideas, why?10:47
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johnmintelikey: disabling swap is a bad idea.10:47
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Ethanhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4347 er .... is there a french ubuntu chan? :p10:47
dazvidI need a program that will unrar mulitple rar files into one big file. Is that possible with ubuntu? If so, what program?10:47
d^-_-^bWell, in Slackware, make is located in /usr/bin10:47
intelikeyyeah ive been told that. johnm,  you're not the first.10:47
Nitewalkergerbman,  im jst in synaptic package manager searching for gstreamer is that right?10:47
d^-_-^bWhere is it located in Ubuntu?10:47
johnmintelikey: besides.. if something is being swapped it's because it wants to free up cached ram for something which is more active. if you want to utilise swap less, then adjust the vm.swappiness value.10:47
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mustard5d^-_-^b, install build-essential10:48
_root_is it possible to use a directory called named.d like httpd ?10:48
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gerbmannitewalker, yup...just search exactly for what the guide says10:48
mustard5d^-_-^b, sudo apt-get install build-essential10:48
johnmintelikey: put it this way.. if you have somethign which memleaks the OOM killer will have a blast, and your system will very quickly become unusable.10:48
d^-_-^bmustard5, thanks10:48
intelikeyjohnm i did adjust it.   i turned swap off.10:48
dooglusintelikey: I don't have a printer, so cups isn't a problem10:48
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johnmintelikey: with vm.swappiness?10:48
Ae|-_GoDanyone?10:48
mustard5Ae|-_GoD, I wish I knew :)10:49
intelikeyno with root@host #swapoff -a10:49
klaaner-libbyHi :-) I'm just installing Ubuntu for a friend ... and I'm a Gentoo user ;-) Now, I have a dumb question: Why can't I install mplayer with Adept? mplayer _is_ there for ubuntu, isn't it?!10:49
Nitewalkergerbman,  so jst search for each thing that is listed?10:49
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mustard5Ae|-_GoD, hang around and hope someone comes along that does10:49
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johnmintelikey: yeah.. thats a really bad (wrong) way of doing it10:49
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gerbmannitewalker, yes...and if you can't seem to find it you probably need to add the extra repositories...that is the first step in the guide10:49
_root_Nitewalker: can you please answer me ?10:50
DigitalLFhello im trying to get my firewall (WatchGuard SOHO 6) to send syslog to my ubuntu but how do i setup my sysklog so ever info from my firewall goes into /var/log/watchguard10:50
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DigitalLFI am a n00b when it comes to this never realy cared about syslog before10:50
intelikey(wrong) way   lol    your way my way and "wrong way" lol   there is no right way  wrong way.....   this is linux where you don't have to do what M$ says with your software....10:50
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stevejesuswhats up guys10:51
johnmintelikey: there is a right way and wrong way10:51
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Nitewalker_root_,  yes i didnt see your question10:51
johnmintelikey: and disabling it completely is wrong via swapoff.10:51
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dooglusintelikey: turning off swap will mean that as soon as the programs you're running need more memory than you've got, they'll start failing.10:51
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dooglusintelikey: that's the wrong way to get a more responsive system.10:51
johnmintelikey: "disabling" it by reducing the swappiness value is much much better nbecause it can still cope in severe cases10:52
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borupjohnm: actually there are several right ways - and many more wrong ones10:52
stevejesusi am talking to you from my brand-spankin new xubuntu install on a laptop i havent used for 4 years!!10:52
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stevejesusi really like this.  i think i might switch to xfce10:52
dooglusintelikey: you're free to f**k up your system like that if you want, but that doesn't stop it being the wrong thing to do10:52
johnmborup: not really. there is effectively 1 right way, and 1 wrong way to reduce swapiness use.10:52
johnmborup: having no swap is the wrong way.10:52
intelikeyjohnm if you are one of the code monkeys that designed the kernel then you know the way it was designed to be used.  but i don't care how it is 'designed' to be used, this is my software.... it does what i say.10:52
dortothere are only three wallpapers in 'set desktop wallpaper' dialog box10:53
dortoi installed few wallpaper packages from aptitude10:53
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naliothstevejesus: try enlightenment dr17 when it comes out for ubuntu10:53
dortowhere are they installed?10:53
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johnmintelikey: fair enough, but then I'd suggest not recommending it to others as the solution. the correct and prefered way is to reduce the vm.swappiness value so it uses swap much less frequently.10:53
stevejesusxubuntu is great.  i cant wait to get extra lazy with this ancient laptop10:53
intelikeydooglus you are absolutly wrong about the "turning off swap will mean that as soon as the programs you're running need more memory than you've got, they'll start failing"   it doesnt work that way.10:53
dortothey are not in /usr/share/wallpapers10:53
naliothdorto: /usr/share/wallpaper  or /usr/share/backgrounds/10:53
johnmintelikey: actually.. it pretty much does.10:53
stevejesusnalioth:  i was actually trying to install the beta last night via some unsupported repo i found10:53
intelikeyjohnm youve'10:54
dooglusintelikey: how does it work then?  how do the programs manage to use more memory that you have on-board if there's no swap?10:54
stevejesusnalioth:  then i fell asleep10:54
johnmintelikey: you can't allocate more ram than you physically have.10:54
intelikeytried it ?10:54
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dortonalioth: yeah, /usr/share/backgrounds :)10:54
johnmintelikey: Yes, and I also have been writing/working with kernel code for about 8 years.10:54
naliothstevejesus: there is only one method i've found that works10:54
dortofrom where can i download more wallpapers?10:54
stevejesusnalioth:  well ive decided to wait for the official  i really dont like installing packages im not sure about10:55
johnmintelikey: the VM subsystem and the hardware abstraction that goes on behind it mean that you will really face lots of problems. try doing what you're doing now with say, 64MB or so of ram.10:55
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dooglusdorto: ddgirls.com10:55
intelikeythey actually use /tmp and make their own swapfiles or something.... but they don't just start dying....  i've tested over running the ram many times, only one time did some thing actually die.10:55
johnmintelikey: they dnt fo that at all. they dont make "swapfiles"10:56
Habbieintelikey, applications do -not- automatically make their own swapfiles when they start running out of memory10:56
DigitalLFwhere to find info about ubuntu's sysklog?10:56
intelikeythey use /tmp  i didn't ask them how.10:56
stevejesusi cant believe i was going to sell this clunker of a laptop.  this really runs well!  xubuntu!10:56
DigitalLF!tell digitallf sysklog10:56
johnmintelikey: swap is when pages in memory are too infrequently read to be useful in fast access memory, and as such are "swapped" to a much larger, reserve style memory which happens to be (most often) on HDs10:57
DigitalLFhehe worth a try :)10:57
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dortodooglus: lol, the name of the website suggests it contains wallpapers of THOSE kind ;)10:57
stevejesusnow i just have to get this random 802.11a card working with it10:57
johnmintelikey: you will never see an application purposefully kicking off a "swapfile" somewhere because the machine is out of memory. the linux kernel simply doesn't work like that10:57
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Ethaner ... I have a problem with the universe repository : it can't be found....10:57
dooglusdorto: you gave us an incomplete spec to work with.10:57
dortok, let me try again10:58
johnmintelikey: the kernel OOM killer will have a killing spree when that happens without swap. jut as it would if you were to fully utilise both swap nd physical ram.10:58
johnmintelikey: otherwise, whats the point in the OOM killer even existing?10:58
dooglusjohnm: I believe that the gimp will make a 'swap file' for itself, but it's uncommon in doing so10:58
dortowhere can i download wallpapers for my debian OS which have 'gnu/linux' or 'ubuntu' feel in it?10:58
dortooops10:58
dortofor ubuntu os10:58
johnmdooglus: but thats something totally different. thats application design, and has nothign to do with memory allocation of the application.10:59
stevejesusi think i might have to give quake2 a shot on this relic10:59
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naliothdorto: art.ubuntu.com10:59
dortookie, thx10:59
naliothdorto: gnome-look.org, www.deviantart.com10:59
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luanssome1 tell me how to install tar.gz files plz....11:00
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naliothluans: what pkg are you wanting out of it?11:00
EthanIs there anyone here using the universe repository?11:00
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naliothEthan: most of us do11:01
luansmalioth, comix11:01
EthanIt can't be found11:01
Ethanand I don't know why11:01
Ethan:$11:01
intelikeyi didn't write the code johnm, i just know that there is no swap partition nor swap file any place on this system and i can run kde mozilla konqueror konsole kword and xchat all at the same time with bx running in a console, and when i switch from gui to console and back it has to read from the hd cause the 98m of ram was used up before i got the third mozilla loaded.....  so you tell me what it is doing in /tmp   and why n11:01
luansmalioth, a reading program for .cbr files11:01
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naliothluans: yes, i read .cbr and .cbzs11:01
EthanI have remove 2 comments /etc/apt/sources.list ....11:01
luansmalioth, soo.....11:02
intelikeythose are the facts ^ make what ever you will out of it.11:02
luansmalioth, i dl the file on desktop, just dunno how to install it11:02
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EthanCan anyone help me to get the universe repository?11:03
helveteummm where can i get some antispyware software for linux?11:03
Hobbsee!tell Ethan about repositories11:03
johnmintelikey: where did /tmp even come into the equasion? some applications might purposefully use /tmp or something for caching data. I'll assume mozilla caching webdata. it's not a bit thing to do, but what you were saying earlier is totally incorrect.11:03
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johnmintelikey: and realistically, they arent the facts. they're something totally unrelated :)11:04
Hobbsee!tell Ethan about sources11:04
gypsymaurohi11:04
luans.....ne1?11:04
EthanHobbsee,  ?11:04
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HobbseeEthan: check your private messages from ubotu11:04
EthanOo11:04
luansmustard5, mustard u ther?11:04
gypsymauroI've a problem using apt-proxy  & ubuntu , I get an error trying to access to universe and multiverse archive, MD5sum error..any hint?11:04
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Hobbsee!tell gypsymauro about gpgerr11:05
mustard5luans, ?11:05
intelikeytotally un related?   hmmm odd.11:05
luansmustard5, eh u noe how to install tar.gz files?11:05
naliothluans: join #kubuntu-offtopic please11:05
Hobbseegypsymauro: see your PM from ubotu11:05
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luansmustard5, i dl the file on desktop alrdy n duno how to install11:05
EthanHobbsee,  will try the gui solution and I come back :p11:05
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HobbseeEthan: cool11:06
naliothluans: we can help you in #kubuntu-offtopic11:06
luansmalioth, ok how to11:06
naliothluans: type /j #kubuntu-offtopic11:06
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gypsymauroHobbsee: I saw but I think now it's a apt-proxy problem then.. cause I already done yesterday what PM says ..I think apt-proxy is caching a wrong Packages.gz11:07
dortosaving individual wallpapers is inefficient; aren't there any apt packages bundling wallpapers made for ubuntu desktop that i can download in one go?11:07
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dooglusintelikey: I guess what was happening was that parts of the cache were being freed to be used for the new apps you ran.11:08
dooglusintelikey: as for the disk being used, I don't know.  it there's no swap, why would it access the disk?11:08
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gwarkwasnt there some sort of skin-calander wallpaper for ubuntu ?11:08
helvetehmm ok what could i use to emulate windows games on ubuntu?11:08
vie|shuttlehey everyone11:08
vie|shuttle:)11:08
gwarkhelvete   wine .... xwine .... cedega ....11:09
johnmdooglus: because mozilla has an on-disk cache for websites/images etc?11:09
intelikeydooglus that's the point..... after you do use up all free ram it starts writting to disk.....  i don't know why.  but i know it does.11:09
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vie|shuttledownloading ubuntu this is going to be my 1st linux install anyone have any tips?11:09
dooglusjohnm: not in /tmp it doesn't...  it's in ~/.mozilla by default in ubuntu.11:09
johnmdooglus: also konquerer etc have on-disk cache for thumbnails and thigns as well11:09
johnmdooglus: who said anything about /tmp?11:09
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dooglusjohnm: as an experiment, I've disabled swap, and written a while(1) { malloc(10 megs); wait for key press} loop11:10
intelikeyit doesn't start crashing things, it starts 'swapping' to hd    i don't know what data or why or how.  but i know it works.11:10
dooglusjohnm: it started off dropping 10 megs from cache usage each time I hit a key - but then it started doing a whole lot of disk activity...11:10
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dooglusdooglus: intelikey said something about /tmp I think11:10
EthanHobbsee, seems to work, thanks11:10
intelikeyjohnm i said it starts writing to /tmp     and yes i've used  du to see where it was writing to11:11
johnmdooglus: yeah, but I feel it was a blind reference.11:11
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johnmintelikey: du doesn't really show that. you need to check out the pid file descriptors to be sure.11:11
theturtlehey dumb question, anyone know wehere i might find a good sources.list for Breezy11:11
johnmanyways... lets leave it as this: having no swap is a bad idea. if you want to use less swap, turn down vm.swappiness.11:11
vie|shuttleomg i feel like a n00b i have no idea what any of you are talking about11:12
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dooglusjohnm: me too.  I started off with the notion that intelikey didn't have a clue what he was talking about - but I'm seeing a lot of disk activity as I approach meltdown too...11:12
vie|shuttlethis is what happens when u run start on windows and never use linux :(11:12
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dooglusjohnm: 1. where is vm.swappiness? 2. what is all the disk access in low-memory conditions with swap disabled?11:12
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johnmdooglus: /proc/sys/vm/swappiness (which is sysctl key vm.swapiness)11:13
theturtleaccessing files most likely dooglus11:13
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linuxgeek2!hi11:13
ubotuhi!11:13
linuxgeek2!fonts11:13
ubotufonts is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto11:13
linuxgeek2!hi11:13
Secreth`XSomeone can help my out making my .mpeg files work?11:13
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intelikeyno johnm ill leave it at this.  when i use a swap partition the system runs slower up to the point where without swap it has to start writing someplace and then it runs slower without swap....   so i won't use swap and when it tells me i've exceded the ram i'll close something...11:14
linuxgeek2!touchpas11:14
ubotulinuxgeek2: Are you smoking crack?11:14
linuxgeek2!touchpad11:14
ubotulinuxgeek2: I don't know11:14
linuxgeek2!laptop11:14
ubotuit has been said that laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam11:14
johnmdooglus: the PID of the application your using... check out /proc/*/fd/* and see what it's doing11:14
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linuxgeek2!laptop touchpas11:15
ubotulinuxgeek2: No idea11:15
linuxgeek2!laptop touchpad11:15
ubotulinuxgeek2: Not a clue11:15
vie|shuttlelinux is scary11:15
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johnmintelikey: All I can suggest is if you really want to learn more about all this stuff, then advice is probably a good thing to follow. At the end of the day, whart you're doing is totally up to you, but please dont recommend to others bad practice.11:15
dooglusjohnm: there are 3 fds: 0, 1 and 2.  all are symlinks to /dev/pts/111:16
dooglusjohnm: it's a very simple C while loop.  a malloc and a getchar()11:16
johnmdooglus: so it hasnt opened any file decriptors.11:16
linuxgeek2hi folks how do I configure my touchpad in ubuntu11:16
intelikeyyou say it's bad pratice.   i say it's good pratice on this box or any like it.11:16
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dooglusjohnm: so why's the disk spinning like mad, and this chat client can't keep up with my typing!11:16
linuxgeek2It's not working properly11:16
vie|shuttlebecause ur hd sucks :)11:17
dooglusjohnm: I'm not running mozilla by the way, or anything like it...11:17
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linuxgeek2they folks11:17
linuxgeek2help me out11:17
linuxgeek2!help11:17
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intelikeydooglus used up all the ram and now the kernel or the apps one are looking for some place to swap to ?????11:18
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dooglusintelikey: I can see why you might think that, indeed11:18
fatehazeCan anyone direct me to a web list of all the available Synaptic packages?11:18
Secreth`XSomeone can help me out making my .mpeg files work?11:18
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KoopaPdoes ubuntu come with apache and mysql?11:19
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intelikeydooglus you know you can open more apps....  it just does more disk activity and the box gets slower....11:19
intelikeyi've pushed it to the point it was too slow to do anything on but only one app ever died.11:19
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johnmdooglus: without being sat there to diagnose I can't specifically tell you why.11:20
fatehazeI'm trying to get a friend to switch to Ubuntu, and I'd like to woo her with all the available math and science packages11:20
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gf-boyerbonjour  tous11:21
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keironhi11:21
naliothfatehaze: packages.ubuntu.com11:21
keironcan someone please tell me the command to edit the xorg configuration?11:21
fatehazePhat, thanks :D11:21
keiron!x11:21
ubotukeiron: Do they come in packets of five?11:21
theturtleanyone got a good current sources.list for Breezy?11:21
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keiron!xorg11:21
ubotusomebody said xorg was sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:21
naliothubotu: tell theturtle about sources11:21
johnmdooglus: I'd rather not do it on this machine atm, since Im in work and have stuff going in the background.. but feel free to mail me results and I'll clarify properly if your interested. (johnm@gentoo.org)11:21
gf-boyerje viens d'installer edubuntu et j'ai besoin d'aide (need help please)11:22
nalioth!fr11:22
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais11:22
haihi all. i have a quick question.  i just installed mysql and php5... where doi go to put files on the localhost?11:22
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naliothgf-boyer: anlais ici, franais en #ubuntu-fr, s'il vous plait11:22
keIs it possible to remove the boot selector if I choose not to use two partitions anymore? I run WinXP on c:\ and want to run ubuntu on a second drive11:23
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johnmdooglus: btw.. the actual kernel version, patchset, and schedular you're using will all potentially effect this as well.11:23
haiah! ha! i found it.  in the var file. thanks!11:23
Secreth`X!sources.list11:23
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:24
intelikeyjohnm me thinks dooglus may have pushed it to the point it is like trying to use a 80286 to compile a kernel.....11:24
ubuntu!help11:24
johnmintelikey: you do realise btw hat setting vm.swappiness to something like 10, will mean swap is used exceptionally rarely and you will get a much better all-round performance anyways.11:24
gf-boyerre bonjour  tous; y'a eu un bug et j'ai t coup11:24
linuxgeek2hwo do I configure the touchpad in ubuntu linux11:24
linuxgeek2?11:24
theturtlethanks11:24
linuxgeek2It's not working11:24
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ubuntu!list11:24
ubotuwell, list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage11:24
dooglusjohnm: I worked out what all the disk access was - it's dumping core, I think :)11:24
intelikeyyeah,  i don't have the room to swap anyway.11:24
gf-boyercomment fait-on pour aller sur le salon ubuntu en franais svp?11:24
johnmdooglus: that wouldn't surprise me.11:24
dooglusjohnm: it's a kind of swapping :)11:25
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doogluswriting ram to hard disk...11:25
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johnmdooglus: heh, the kind that isn't really swapping at all you mean? :)11:25
intelikeydooglus did anything crash ?11:25
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dooglusintelikey: yes: Program terminated with signal SIGKILL, Killed.11:25
dooglusThe program no longer exists.11:25
dooglusI don't know who is sending it the KILL signal, but something is11:25
bigkahunahow can I extract the contents of a rar file in brezzy?11:25
johnmdooglus: the OOM killer.11:25
dooglusbigkahuna: "unrar x <rarfile>"11:26
intelikeyhmmm what was the program ?11:26
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dooglusintelikey: it was a small malloc() loop I wrote11:26
bigkahunadooglus: Thanks11:26
johnmdooglus: it's the job of the OOM killer to kill applicatins when you run out of memory.11:26
Secreth`Xfor what platform is MPlayer?11:26
johnmdooglus: hence the name :) (Out Of Memory Killer). linux Docs should explain if you're interested.11:26
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dooglusI never see 'core files in ubuntu.  are they disabled?  or written somewhere other than the cwd?11:27
AngryClipcan someone take a look at for me. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88600 I can't seem to prevent ehci_hcd from loading, even though it is blacklisted11:27
scx Someone here has built a windows' autorun  ?  ( Hello,  :-D )11:27
theturtlescx- ?? that has what to do wit ubuntu ? :D11:28
intelikeybut johnm you say the kernel affects all this ?    all my testing has been with 2.4.25mdk kernel   is there a know differance in the way they process oom actions ?11:28
theturtlehttp://autorun.moonvalley.com/autoruninf.htm11:28
rabeldabledooglus: core files are usually placed in the directory where the app is ran from11:29
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Secreth`Xhmm11:29
Secreth`Xis cedega for free or not?11:29
dooglusrabeldable: right.  but I don't see them.  even if I kill a process with SEGV it doesn't leave a core11:29
AngryClipSecreth`X, no, you have to purchase it11:29
rabeldablefor example, if you were in /var/log and ran an ls which created a core file, you would see a core file in /var/log11:29
Secreth`XAngryClip, to bad :(11:29
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AngryClipSecreth`X, some people have had success using the free WINE11:29
johnmintelikey: quite possibly yes. you can disable the oom killer if you really want to. for all I know MDK might do that.11:29
scxtheturtle: nothing really,... except I'm a Ubuntu user and guessing,... :D11:30
dooglusSecreth`X: the source code is available, but it's not free.  they say that if people compile and distribute the source code then they'll not make the source available in future11:30
Secreth`XYes11:30
Seveasgoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning Ubuntu lovers :)11:30
linuxgeek2it's afternun here11:30
Secreth`Xdooglus, ok11:30
linuxgeek2lol11:30
johnmdooglus: you can force it to not dump cores at compiletime iirc.11:30
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dooglusjohnm: I used "gcc mal.c"11:30
Secreth`XAngryClip, I dont have success with wine11:30
BioNikHello, how do i change my locale & encoding ? i don't like utf-8 :/11:30
dooglusjohnm: no flags at all11:30
Secreth`XAngryClip, I cant even seem to compile it.11:31
johnmdooglus: should work.11:31
dooglusBioNik: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales11:31
AngryClipSecreth`X, what is the error11:31
johnmdooglus: no CFLAG env or anything?11:31
intelikeySecreth`X why compiling ?    apt-get it11:31
dooglusjohnm: nothing.11:31
Secreth`XAngryClip, A very weird one11:31
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Secreth`Xintelikey, under what name?11:32
intelikeyxwine ?   is it11:32
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intelikeyno just plain wine.11:32
Secreth`Xok11:32
intelikeysudo apt-get install wine11:33
BioNikdooglus: thanks11:33
Secreth`Xintelikey, thanks!11:33
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AngryClipcan someone take a look at for me. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88600 I can't seem to prevent ehci_hcd from loading, even though it is blacklisted11:34
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John__DoeHallo Leute, hi folks...11:34
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Secreth`Xintelikey, I apt-get it. But where is it now?11:35
AngryClipSecreth`X, try: wine /path/to/some/win/install/exe11:36
Secreth`Xok :D11:36
bigkahunaDoes anybody know how to change the default keyboard mappings? Im using the new Apple II keyboard and it works great, however some of the keys are specific to the Mac OS. Can I reassign these keys?11:36
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intelikeyinstalled....   use  "wine something.exe "   assuming you have a valid use for wine secreth`x11:36
Secreth`XAngryClip, intelikey, thanks!11:37
dooglusjohnm: here's a teeny example: echo 'main(){while(1){system("date");sleep(1);}}' > loop.c; gcc loop.c; ./a.out & sleep 3; pkill -SEGV a.ou11:37
dooglusjohnm: that should make a core, right?  it kills a running process with a SIGSEGV.  I don't see a core from it11:37
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intelikeySecreth`X you can also assocate that file extention with wine and just clicking on .exe files will run wine blah.exe11:38
AngryClipbigkahuna, GNOME Start Menu->System->Pref->Keyboard Shortcut ?11:39
Secreth`Xok intelikey I`ll try11:39
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intelikeytell nautilus to open with  and type in wine     i think              i'm not a gnome user someone can tell you how to11:39
Secreth`Xzomg!11:39
Secreth`XIt worked!11:39
Secreth`XI love you guys :D11:39
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bigkahunaAngryClip: Thanks! It works.11:41
KoopaPoopai'm having real trouble getting my pcmcia network card working11:41
KoopaPoopait claims DHCP is succesfull on installation, but i don't have an address11:41
KoopaPoopaand if i set one manually, no packets get sent or receieved11:42
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intelikeyname of default terminal ?11:43
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intelikeyeverybody gone ?11:45
GNULinuxerintelikey: no11:46
intelikeycan some one tell me the name of the default term app ?11:46
ahmesnot everybody11:46
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intelikeyis xterm on the disk ?11:46
dooglusintelikey: http://kerneltrap.org/node/3000 is an interesting discussion of swap vs. cache11:46
GNULinuxerintelikey: gnome-terminal11:47
AngryClipintelikey, gnome-terminal... not sure of the kubuntu equivlant11:47
intelikeyok thanks guys11:47
agtnzkonsole is kde terminal i think11:48
GNULinuxerintelikey: konsole in Kubuntu11:48
agtnzsnap11:48
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intelikeyGNULinuxer yeah i don't have a kub cd.11:49
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RuspuI'm really new with linux. so I would like to ask when I try to update ubuntu it givs me this answer  "GPG error: http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>" . what must I do?11:50
GNULinuxerintelikey: gnome-terminal should be installed by default11:50
intelikey:)11:50
GNULinuxerRuspu: change your sources.list ... use us.archive.ubuntu.com instead of fi.archive.ubuntu.com11:51
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intelikeyi found xterm on the cd.         GNULinuxer you assume a default install, if it had been i would not have asked for a terminal name...   expert server and then added what i needed and removed some things i didn't.   disk space is really tight on a single 500m hd you know.11:52
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RuspuOk I try11:53
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GNULinuxerintelikey: i see ... in that case, install xterm11:53
intelikeythank you :)11:53
goonmy GNOME desktop doesn't start any more11:53
goonbut XFCE does11:54
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goonwhat log should I look?11:54
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GNULinuxergoon: are there any errors?11:54
ahmesdoes anyone know why xmms plays songs but nothing comes out my speakers ? (speackers are plugged in, volume is maximum)11:54
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goonGNULinuxer, I don't know where to look for11:54
goonGNULinuxer, but no, I onley get a marroon screen after GDM11:55
GNULinuxergoon: hmm ...11:55
intelikeygoon when you say "<goon> my GNOME desktop doesn't start any more"  how are you attempting to start gnome ?11:55
agro1986help. I want to install w32codecs_20050412+breezy0.0.1_all.deb OFFLINE. I already have windows-all-20050412.zip. Is there any way to tell the installed to use the file I donwloaded??? thanks11:55
goonintelikey, yeah, I start it from GDM11:55
goonintelikey, but XFCE works :/11:55
agro1986help. I want to install w32codecs_20050412+breezy0.0.1_all.deb OFFLINE. I already have windows-all-20050412.zip. Is there any way to tell the installeR to use the file I donwloaded??? thanks11:55
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GNULinuxeragro1986: sudo dpkg -i file.deb11:56
pymattgoon, probably gnome session is corrupted, try deleting ~/.gnome2/session11:56
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intelikeyk try  'rm ~/.*authority  ~/.gnome2/session '  in a console and restart it goon11:57
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toresbehey guys...11:58
toresbeIs it possible to use the Marillat sources with Ubuntu?11:58
highvoltagetoresbe: it's not recommended.11:58
toresbehighvoltage: why?11:58
highvoltagemarillat sources are meant for debian, it can break your ubuntu at any stage.11:59
toresbehmm11:59
highvoltagewhy? well, packages in that sources list will probably be compiled against libc511:59
highvoltageubuntu is libc6.11:59
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toresbeMarillat has sid packages too11:59
highvoltagethere's lots of other things too. debian and ubuntu aren't binary compatible.11:59
toresbeThat's libc6, innit?11:59
highvoltageif you can avoid it, don't use it.11:59
toresbebeh... It's annoying to have to chroot into my old debian partition to be able to play... anything, really12:00
Secreth`XIs there a multimedia guru in the house?12:00
highvoltagelike what? universe contains a huge amount of software.12:00
highvoltagein multiverse, you can also find mplayer, that plays everything i can find.12:00
toresbehighvoltage: I've installed mplayer from multiverse12:01
toresbeamong other things it's not too happy about binary-only codecs12:01
Secreth`Xfor wich platform is MPlayer?12:01
toresbeall12:01
Secreth`Xhmm12:01
Secreth`Xsudo apt-get install mplayer ?12:01
toresbeIt needs both libdvdcss and w32codecs... none of which are installable12:01
toresbeNo, recommends, apologees12:02
intelikeylol i found a bug in 5.04 ,   installed xterm on top of fluxbox and it tries to start "BASH" in place of "bash"  lol...12:02
agro1986test12:02
toresbeagro1986: Nope, not working ;)12:02
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intelikeyi'm not sure where that is, but for a work around i just symlinked bash & BASH    :)12:03
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toresbehah...12:03
toresbeodd12:03
intelikeysomeone should check in on breezy to make sure it doesn't do the same.12:04
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goonit worked, thanks guys!12:04
bascuppenintelikey, I'm on it ;)12:04
Secreth`Xyay! MPlayer CAN play my .mpeg files while totem doesnt seem to can12:04
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intelikeybascuppen just a note i don't have ubuntu-* installed although i don't think that would affect this.12:06
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intelikeyi'll see if i can spot the problems cause12:06
Secreth`XWhere can I find some fonts? MPlayer is asking for one o_O12:06
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naliothSecreth`X: install mplayer-fonts12:07
Secreth`Xnalioth, thanks12:08
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bruhi all12:08
onkarshindeWhy isn't OOo2 updated in Ubuntu to final release?12:09
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bimberi!ooo212:09
ubotuTest packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html12:09
aeon17xonkarshinde: because the Debian folks want to be sure it wouldn't break anything, and besides RC1 is pretty close to the final release.12:10
dooglusonkarshinde: because ubuntu's releases are stable.  they don't get changed after release other than for security or other important fixes12:10
dortohow to add file manager to gnome panel?12:10
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onkarshindedooglus: I am talking about OOo2 hwich is RC in Breezy12:10
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soundraydorto: Try "Places"12:11
dortodragged and dropped it ...12:11
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deFryskonkarshinde, OO.o.2 is available12:11
dooglusonkarshinde: when breezy was released, OO.o2 wasn't.12:11
deFryskfrom another repo12:11
onkarshindedorto: Right click and then add to panel, add launcher. This way you can add any menu item12:11
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soundrayGuys: Why is sudo -i considered safer than sudo bash?12:11
vie|shuttlei was just trying to install ubuntu and when i hit enter to install it sits and does nothing after this one spot12:11
vie|shuttlewhat is the problem?12:11
shinuhow do i create a tar.gz from a folder?..12:12
dooglussoundray: sudo -i gives you root's environment rather than your own12:12
onkarshindeshinu: tar -xvf foldername and then gzip filename.tar12:12
dooglussoundray: so you'll have root's PATH, rather than your own path, which might include all kinds of dodgy stuff12:12
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vie|shuttleubuntu doesnt need more than 5gigs right?12:12
bimberisoundray: for example see the result of "echo $HOME" for each12:12
dortoonkarshinde: it was not showing apps from 'places' menu12:13
dooglusshinu: careful.  tar xvf will extract a tar archive, not create it.12:13
shinuonkarshinde: i see, just though that there might be some other one-command way :P thanks a lot12:13
bimberivie|shuttle: no12:13
dortowhat audio file format(s) does Rhythm Box play?12:13
onkarshindedorto: I suppose you needed to add file manager. It is available in Accessories menu (breezy) or System Tools (Hoary)12:13
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dooglusshinu: the correct answer is "tar cfz folder.tgz folder"12:13
soundraydooglus, so if I trust my user environment no less than root's, it doesn't matter?12:13
shinudooglus: tar xvf different from tar -xvf then?..12:13
shinudooglus: ah! thanks :D12:13
dooglussoundray: fill your boots!  :)12:14
Secreth`Xbtw nalioth do you still remember me? :P12:14
dortoonkarshinde: file manager(Home Folder) is available in 'places' menu and i dragged to the panel and it worked12:14
soundraydooglus, what?12:14
naliothSecreth`X: from where? are you my mail person?12:14
onkarshindeshinu: I suppose you can do it with tar with one additional option. I don't remember option though12:14
dooglusshinu: yes, it's different, but the important thing is the 'x' vs. the 'c'...  x is extract, c is create.12:14
onkarshindeshinu: man tar12:14
Secreth`Xerr no12:14
dortoonkarshinde: as you said, File Manager IS available in Accessories12:14
Secreth`XI`m the guy who wanted to partition my disk and everything you say wasnt working :P12:14
dortocould have added it that way too12:14
shinudooglus: so...-xvf extracts?..12:14
dooglusonkarshinde: 'tar cfz' creates a gzipped tar file12:15
onkarshindeshinu: Forgive for my irresponsible answer12:15
dortowhat application to use to play mp3 files in ubuntu breezy?12:15
naliothSecreth`X: i'm often wrong, when not sitting in front of the hardware12:15
bruhi all, i have a problem with my keyboard configuration (layout), i choose "Belgium" and still some keys are'nt working properly (even though the keyboard picture seems to be the same as my keyboard)... Thanks for your help12:15
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Secreth`X:p12:15
onkarshindedorto: Rhythmbox12:15
dooglusshinu: just 'tar xf' will extract any tar archive, whether it's uncompressed, compressed, gzipped or bzipper12:15
dooglusd12:15
onkarshinde!tell dorto about mp312:15
Secreth`XWell I deleted windows12:15
naliothdooglus: bzipperd?12:15
vie|shuttlewtf, man this is pissing me off i downloaded the ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64 i burn the iso to a cd and put it in i boot my pc up and it says hit enter to install for basic desktop and laptop so i press enter than it hangs up doing who knows what sits there at like the line12:15
Secreth`XIt was crappy anyway12:15
naliothSecreth`X: great!12:15
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dooglusnalioth: heh, yes.12:15
Secreth`XAnd now Im on ubuntu12:16
onkarshindevie|shuttle: For how much time?12:16
soundraydooglus, bimberi: Thanks.12:16
onkarshindevie|shuttle: Did you make sure that there was no problem with iso using mp5?12:16
vie|shuttlei pretty long time like i dont hear my hd at all12:16
vie|shuttlemp5?12:16
vie|shuttle:) that is a sub-machine gun :D12:16
bimberivie|shuttle: md5sum12:17
deFryskmd5sum12:17
onkarshindevie|shuttle: md5. Sorry for that12:17
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naliothubotu: tell vie|shuttle about verify12:17
bimberivie|shuttle: which you probably feel like using right?12:17
shinudooglus: so will tar -xvf foldername do anything?..12:17
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bimberi:)12:17
onkarshindedooglus: no12:17
vie|shuttleidk i am a complete n00b when it comes to linux12:17
onkarshindeshinu: no12:17
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naliothvie|shuttle: you'll soon shed that state of being12:18
dooglusonkarshinde: no what?12:18
shinuonkarshinde: you just told me to do that 0.012:18
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luansnalioth, it doesnt seem to work properly for me but thanks anyway lols12:18
dooglusshinu: "tar -xvf foldername" will extract foldername if it's a gzipped tar file.12:18
onkarshindedooglus: shinu: I think I am getting hungry. So giving answers in hurry.12:18
naliothluans: hows that?12:18
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luansnalioth, ima gona dl zipzag an extract the cbr files instead12:18
dooglusshinu: now I'm telling you lies...12:19
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naliothluans: no we can fix guatu, it works great12:19
luansnalioth, is guatu tend to be REALLY slow?12:19
naliothluans: join #kubuntu-offtopic please12:19
dooglusshinu: "tar -xvf foldername" will extract any tar file - compressed or not - and it will be noisy while it does it12:19
dooglusshinu: the 'v' just adds verbosity12:19
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vie|shuttleok so i download MD5SUMS and MD5SUMS.gpg when i click on this one it just comes up with some text stuff12:20
dooglusshinu: I think adding a '-' to the list of options means that the 'f' has to be the last option.  other than that it doesn't do much.12:20
WinZDoes anyone has problems with last update of gksudo?12:20
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shinudooglus: got it. so does tar automatically find whether to use a z or j option for either gzip or bz2?12:21
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ShaeinHi all12:21
ShaeinI need some help12:21
intelikeybascuppen i failed to find the cause for that all caps error just grep'd for it in /home /usr and /etc  it must be in a binarry someplace ?   maybe in the xterm binary ?12:21
ilba7rany one know the link to hardware testing. I need to find out if Toshiba Qosmio F20 is supported or not.12:21
Shaeinif somebody have some freetime ...12:21
Shaeinit's about a wifi card12:21
vie|shuttlethis is super complicated12:21
vie|shuttlewhat do i do with md5sums anad stuff?12:22
Shaein(in pm if)12:22
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dooglusshinu: tar looks at the first few bytes of the tar archive.  gzipped archives and bzipped archives begin with certain special byte sequences ('magic numbers').  tar uses this fact to decide whether they need uncompressing or not12:22
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WinZgksudo is not responding when I start it.. what can be?12:22
intelikeydooglus like stat does12:23
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dooglusvie|shuttle: md5sums are just basically checksums.  you don't have to do anything with them if you don't want to.12:23
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dooglusintelikey: stat?12:23
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shinudooglus: i see... i always tried to remember the option for both.. now tht i do i learn its quite unimportant x)12:23
vie|shuttlei dont know what a checksums is12:23
intelikeydooglus 'stat * '12:24
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vie|shuttledooglus i dont know what a checksums is12:24
monhi i have a box that acts as a router. the load is steady at 25 but i can't figure out why12:24
johnmintelikey: you mean "file"?12:24
montop doesn't show any big cpu or memory hogs12:24
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dooglusvie|shuttle: suppose you download a huge file from the internet.  you're not sure if you got it all, or if it got a bit corrupted on the way.12:25
dooglusvie|shuttle: so the author of the web page runs 'md5sum' on the big file, and puts a .md5 file on the web page.12:25
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vie|shuttleso what do u want me to do with the md5sum thing12:25
dooglusyou run md5sum on the file you downloaded too.  md5sum gives you a short 'code' that is (almost) unique for the file.  if your md5sum matches the one on the web page then it's 99.999% certain that the file downloaded correctly.12:25
vie|shuttlei got it from the ubuntu site12:26
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dooglusvie|shuttle: run "md5sum ubuntu-breezy.iso" (or whatever the filename is)12:26
dooglusvie|shuttle: and compare the output of that with the corresponding code in the .md5 file you downloaded12:26
poningruwait maybe you should run that on the cd12:26
poningrusince its probably a problem in the burn12:27
intelikeyjohnm no i mean stat...   'stat -c %F * '12:27
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johnmintelikey: thats something a little different.12:27
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johnmintelikey: that shows the fd type, not the actual file type12:27
poningruas in12:28
poningrumd5sum /path/to/cd12:28
johnmintelikey: try file *, you'll see what I mean :)12:28
dooglusvie|shuttle: lets backtrack.  isn't there some kind of disk checker built into the breezy install CD?12:28
poningrudooglus: yes12:28
dooglusvie|shuttle: I think there's something you can type just after booting to get it to check the CD for you12:28
poningruno just press back12:29
dooglusvie|shuttle: then you don't need to worry about mp5 machine guns or anything12:29
poningruat the main screen just press back12:29
vie|shuttlehttp://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lost0us.jpg12:29
vie|shuttlepress back12:29
vie|shuttleomg backspace?12:29
dooglusponingru: there'a a problem with running md5sum on the /dev/cdrom device...  even with a good burn it doesn't work, 'cos /dev/cdrom has a bunch of extra NUL characters tagged on the end12:29
vie|shuttlehttp://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lost0us.jpg12:30
vie|shuttleis that what i do?12:30
vie|shuttlepress enter?12:30
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poningruerr yeah12:30
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intelikeyyes file reads magic numbers,   i was thinking stat did also.... maybe i mixed them up.12:30
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intelikeyjohnm ^12:31
johnmintelikey: nah, stat goes by the type of file. try it n a socket for example.12:31
vie|shuttleok i am beyond lost12:31
intelikeyyes i see what it does.   read the post ^12:31
poningruvie|shuttle: do a -u at that stage12:31
dooglusponingru: press enter to exit, and type the "md5sums ubuntu-5-10-..." thing at the windows command prompt12:31
poningrudoh12:31
johnmintelikey: I read it.12:31
vie|shuttleok12:31
intelikeyk12:31
dooglusponingru: I don't think we care too much about the format of the output - let's just have him run it...12:32
agro1986help. I want to install w32codecs_20050412+breezy0.0.1_all.deb OFFLINE. I already have windows-all-20050412.zip. Is there any way to tell the installeR to use the file I donwloaded??? thanks12:32
poningru!md5sum12:32
ubotuponingru: Not a clue12:32
poningru!checksum12:32
ubotuponingru: Are you on ritalin?12:32
poningruyes yes I am12:32
Secreth`Xwhat about DirectX? I need it for playing games..12:33
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IseeIseeI want to take a print screen in Ubuntu12:34
IseeIseein which software should I paste the picture ?12:34
vie|shuttlei am about to go curl up in a ball in a corner :(12:34
poningruhold on dude12:34
poningrulet me get you the docs12:34
intelikeyme too vie|shuttle12:34
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ptloIseeIsee, on top panel menu, select System->Take screenshot ...12:35
dooglusvie|shuttle: when you boot from the install cd, you should see an option like "cd media check".  do you?  if so, try that.  it will do the md5sum thing for you.12:35
vie|shuttlelol, i am soo lost its sad12:35
vie|shuttlewhen i try to install cd i hit enter to install12:35
AngryClipIseeIsee, usually when you take a print screen it comes up with where you want to save the png. you will have to import that to the program you which to edit it with (GIMP?)12:35
vie|shuttlethan it sits there doing nothing12:35
dortohow to install vlc in ubuntu?12:35
dooglusvie|shuttle: before hitting enter, is there anything like 'check cd' or 'check media'?12:36
AngryClipdorto, tried: sudo apt-get install vlc12:36
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intelikeydooglus there may be an f7 or f8 option for that before boot    if not it is in expert mode.12:36
vie|shuttleumm i dont think so12:36
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vie|shuttlei hit f3 or w/e is it in there12:36
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vie|shuttlelet me go try brb dooglus12:37
dooglusvie|shuttle: I will try it too - I'll brb.12:37
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AngryClipcan someone take a look at for me. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88600 I can't seem to prevent ehci_hcd from loading, even though it is blacklisted12:37
dortowhen i try to install mp3 support following the ubuntu wiki instructions, i get this error: "E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse"12:37
intelikeyAngryClip rm it12:38
AngryClipyou need to add the right repos dorto12:38
AngryClipintel...?12:38
dortothe cmd i ran: "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg" from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:38
mustard5dorto, I would say you havent enabled mulitiverse repos12:38
dortoi did...according to the instructions12:38
mustard5dorto, the first step in the guide is Add repositories12:38
intelikeyif you have a module that you can't keep the system from loading rm the module.12:39
AngryClipdorto, do a sudo apt-get update12:39
dortoi did that too12:39
mustard5dorto, and then sudo apt-get update?12:39
dorto"deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe" etc are there in the sources.list12:39
dortoyes12:39
intelikeynot the 'software makers way' but it will stop the system from loading that module.12:40
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Secreth`XYes I cant seem to find a way to install that too, I have the same problem as dorto12:40
mustard5let me check something12:40
dorto" deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse" is also there in apt sources12:40
mustard5!info gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse12:40
ubotugstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse: (All Multiverse GStreamer plugins), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 56 kB12:40
mustard5!info gstreamer0.8-plugins12:41
ubotugstreamer0.8-plugins: (All GStreamer plugins), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 28 kB, Installed size: 60 kB12:41
mustard5it seems they are in multiverse dorto and Secreth`X12:41
Secreth`XI have multiserve enabled12:42
dortome too12:42
mustard5Secreth`X, did you sudo apt-get update12:42
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AngryClipintelikey,  so you think I should move: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686-smp/include/config/usb/ehci to anothe location? won't that give me LOADS of errors?12:42
Secreth`Xyes mustard512:42
nickruddorto, is multiverse enabled in any other line than backports?12:42
dortonickrud: no12:43
nickruddorto, there's your problem: everywhere universe exists, add multiverse12:43
dortonickrud: there are lots of lines for universe but only one for multiverse12:43
AngryClipintelikey, ignore me... that is the source the real module is: /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/usb/host/ehci-hcd.ko12:43
dortook12:43
mustard5!sources12:43
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:44
AngryClipI shall move it and what happens12:44
AngryClipthanks for the help intelikey12:44
mustard5dorto and Secreth`X compare your sources.lists to the standard ones in links above12:44
Secreth`Xk12:44
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Belutzis pornview not working in breezy?12:44
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Seveasit works for me12:44
nickrudmustard5, the fun way is to use synaptic: remove all the repositories, then cycle through reach repository, and click every checkbox :)12:44
intelikeyAngryClip yeah it may cry foul, but you never know till you try.12:44
Seveas^-- Belutz12:44
mustard5nickrud, hehe12:44
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Belutzhmm12:44
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intelikeypersonally i think it will work.12:45
BelutzSeveas, you installed it from the repos?12:45
mustard5nickrud, my experience has been that people have more trouble doing it with the gui in synaptic then via command line :)12:45
SeveasBelutz, discard that, it workED for me12:45
AngryClipyou think I should run update-modules12:45
BROKEN_LADDERi'm trying to wire together a batman signalling device, like the mayor has..to signal batman.12:45
intelikeyyeah12:45
SeveasBROKEN_LADDER, -ETOPIC12:45
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nickrudmustard5, I agree :) I filed a bug report on getting a default sources in the apt docs, so it's easy to restart12:46
BROKEN_LADDERSeveas ??12:46
BROKEN_LADDERenglish please12:46
vie|shuttleok i am back, this is what happens when i boot to cd "the defualt installion is suitable for most desktop or laptop systems press f1 for help and advanced installion options to install only the base system type server than enter for defualt type enter so i hit enter12:46
Belutzhmm i wonder what's wrong12:46
AngryClipcheers intelikey, the only way to test is to reboot, I will do that later today or maybe tomorrow... thanks12:46
SGershonI try to run the ./autogen.sh to compile a GTK app, and it tells me: ""**Error**: You must have `glib' installed.12:47
SGershonWhat I must add?12:47
johnmSGershon: you must install glib.12:47
mustard5vie|shuttle, I think dooglus might be away atm12:47
Secreth`Xmustard5, done and updated too.12:47
mustard5Secreth`X, k..try now :)12:47
Secreth`Xok\12:47
intelikeymy day is just about over,  good night all.12:47
AngryClipSGershon, sudo apt-get install glib12:48
SGershonjohnm, there is no package called only glib, htere are glib*12:48
AngryClipnn intelikey12:48
SGershonAngryClip, thanks.12:48
mustard5dorto, how are you going with your issue?12:48
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vie|shuttlethan it starts going it says [232.512417]  <O> Kernal panic not syncing : killing interupt handeler! the next line says [232.512417]  _ and keps blinking sitting there12:49
SGershonAngryClip, "E: Couldn't find package glib"12:49
SeveasSGershon, apt-cache search libglib | grep -- -dev12:49
AngryClipsudo apt-get install libglib2.0-012:49
mustard5Seveas, what does the -- part do?12:49
AngryClipalthough you should look at the docs to see what version it needs12:49
dooglusvie|shuttle: I just booted to the install cd too.  You don't get to check the CD for errors until a few steps into the install process...  seems a bit stupid to me!12:50
Secreth`Xyay mustard5 its working :)12:50
vie|shuttlemustard its ok i saved what i wrote12:50
SGershonSeveas, shall I pastebin the output?12:50
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mustard5Secreth`X, good work12:50
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Secreth`Xthx dude12:50
vie|shuttlei want that feeling of finishing this ! :D12:50
dooglusI tried to do the 'check media' thing myself, but it couldn't find the right driver for my CD drive.  odd, 'cos the hoary installer found it just fine.12:50
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dooglusvie|shuttle: so you can't use the built-in checker.  you'll have to run md5sum on windows instead.12:51
agro1986help: I need the debs for OOo2. Anyone have the links?12:51
bimberi!ooo212:51
ubotuTest packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html12:51
dooglusvie|shuttle: are you in windows now?12:52
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vie|shuttledooglus: how do i run md5sum12:52
dooglusvie|shuttle: you almost had it earlier.12:52
agro1986md5sum filename12:52
agro1986vie|shuttle: md5sum filename12:52
vie|shuttledooglus: but than i got lost lol12:52
leandroWhqt the heck hqppend12:52
dooglusvie|shuttle: your program is called "md5sums" (with an s)12:52
leandroerr12:52
vie|shuttleso in command prompt?12:52
leandroWhat the heck happend :S12:52
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dooglusvie|shuttle: run a command shell / msdos prompt or whatever it's called12:52
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dooglusvie|shuttle: can you "cd" to the place where your .iso file is?12:53
SGershonSeveas, the output is: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/435312:53
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SGershonSeems to have no error.12:53
dooglusvie|shuttle: like:    cd \documents and settings\vie\desktop    or some such12:53
SGershonBut it still don't work'12:53
mustard5SGershon, that is just a search function12:53
vie|shuttledooglus: start>run "md5sums ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64"12:53
mustard5SGershon, to find the packages with those names12:53
mustard5SGershon, were you looking for those packages to install them?12:54
dooglusvie|shuttle: if you like.  does that work?12:54
Secreth`XOk this is probably a dumb question but what about DirectX in wine? Because I need it to run the game :x12:54
fruudmy ubuntu crashed, so iv reinstalled it now, how do i make my "root" account enabled ? it says my pass is wrong.12:54
bluebloodAny idea of why I can't use <TAB> in Jed?12:54
dooglusfruud: use "sudo" to run commands as root, and when it asks for a password, give your user password12:54
MarcNfruud: don't log in as root.  Use sudo to become root as needed12:54
AngryClipfruud, you dont, you use sudo12:54
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AngryClipyou can get root access by doing something like: sudo passwd12:55
AngryClipand then making a new root pass12:55
El_Chefruud: if you really want a root account: sudo passwd root12:55
SGershonmustard5, Yes, I undrstood, so it seems that apt-get find this packages, but it says "E: Couldn't find package glib". So I don't know if there is some package missing.12:55
sapohi all, is there a way to use bittorrent with just the command line? i just installed it on a server.. but i cant find the command to run without the gui12:55
WinZMy gksudo goes down with "Segmentation fault". can anybody help me?12:55
fruudokay dudes, thanks!12:55
fruudhow do i get KDE back ? :$12:55
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Tevagehey all12:56
mustard5SGershon, that search function is to find 'available' packages ..not installed packages12:56
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dooglussapo: /usr/bin/btdownloadheadless.bittorrent12:56
BROKEN_LADDERwelcome to san francisco http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/apa/110368869.html12:56
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vie|shuttledooglus that thing i tried didnt work12:56
SGershonmustard5, And what should I do to have glib installed?12:56
mustard5SGershon, now you have the package names of the 'available' packages, you can proceed to installing them, because you know there proper names now12:56
NoobieDoobieDois it possible to connect to more than one server using naim ?12:56
dooglusvie|shuttle: right.  so...  can you run a command prompt window?   start->run->cmd12:56
Secreth`XOk this is probably a dumb question but what about DirectX in wine? Because I need it to run the game :x12:57
fruudwhat apt-get to get KDE for ubuntu ?12:57
icewtfruud: kubuntu-desktop12:57
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mustard5SGershon, what are you installing btw?12:57
NoobieDoobieDohaha gdm is done !12:57
SGershonmustard5, I try to run the ./autogen.sh to compile a GTK app, and it tells me: ""**Error**: You must have `glib' installed.12:58
fruudty12:58
dooglusvie|shuttle: ?12:58
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sapodooglus it says : Import error, no module named Bittorrent.Download12:58
Secreth`X!wine12:58
j4v4m4nhey  anyone knows where is the list of display managers (xdm,gdm,kdm..) file ?12:58
mustard5SGershon, yeah, so install the packages that came up in the search and you should find that your installation will now find glib when you try  it again12:59
highvoltagej4v4m4n: which file? i don't think there's a specific file. what do you want to do?12:59
dooglussapo: ummm...  really?12:59
vie|shuttledooglus http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtf4sl.jpg12:59
SGershonmustard5, I'll try it now. Thanks.01:00
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j4v4m4nhighvoltage: I want to change my default display manager from gdm to entrance (enlightenment dm)01:00
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fruudicewt, what packages do i need 2 install through apt to be able to use compiling again ? libs etc any specific ?01:00
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NoobieDoobieDowhat X does Ubuntu use ?01:00
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NoobieDoobieDox11 or x.org?01:00
highvoltagej4v4m4n: i think you can do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm", and it should ask you which display manager you would like to use01:01
sH4.01:01
sH4x.org01:01
dooglusvie|shuttle: you should have 2 files:  md5sums.exe and ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso .  can you put them both on your desktop?01:01
highvoltagej4v4m4n: how did you install edm? is there an ubuntu package?01:01
j4v4m4nhighvoltage: I added /usr/local/entrance to /etc/X11/default-display-manager01:01
icewtfruud: err.. build-essential ?01:01
NoobieDoobieDothx. im having to install the gui from scratch sH4.01:01
vie|shuttleyes01:01
j4v4m4nI compiled the source01:01
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j4v4m4nhighvoltage: compiled from cvs01:02
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sH4noobiedoobiedo : ) i`m korean and i can`t english well ..01:02
NoobieDoobieDoI've installed gnome and gdm so far but X does not seem to be installed.  I'm trying to figure out what package I need.01:02
BROKEN_LADDERcan someone do me a favor?01:02
nickrudsH4, but your math is good :)01:02
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aurorai typed "chown -R username:username ~/.*" as root (where "username" is my regular account) and EVERYTHING broke, i would have thought it could at worst have made some hidden files in /root/ owned by the wrong account, but everything seemed to be playing up and the command seemed to run forever, which scared me enough to terminate it early01:02
dooglussapo: do you have a file /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/BitTorrent/Downloader.py on your box?01:02
BROKEN_LADDERi accessed this site too many times and i can't get to it now.  can someone read what the guidelines are that he suggests so he won't ban you?01:02
BROKEN_LADDERhttp://bigelow-springs.net/airamerica/01:02
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aurorahave i completly stuffed my breezy installation?01:03
BROKEN_LADDERlike you can't access it more than every hour or something..01:03
BROKEN_LADDERanyone..10 seconds of your time would be much appreciated01:03
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dirksonHello all. Can anyone help me out a bit with an error at boot time? I had to recompile the kernel, I think it's related to that.01:03
sapodooglus no :(01:03
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dooglussapo: how did you install bittorrent?01:04
nickrudaurora, post ls -l / to paste.ubuntulinux.nl, maybe you have01:04
j4v4m4nhighvoltage: what I have is /usr/local/bin/entrance and which I want to add to the list of dm s01:04
mustard5aurora, I'm thinking about what might have happened.....01:04
dooglussapo: I can't connect to that site01:04
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NoobieDoobieDohow much disk space does a install take ?01:04
sapodooglus downloaded from the bittorrent.com website =x01:04
mustard5aurora, whats the username:username part for?01:04
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sH4NoobieDoobieDo ,try to install it  apt-get install x-window-system-core01:04
marlunDoes ubuntu has apache and php installed by default after installation?01:04
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vie|shuttledooglus top right corner for you http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=omg2dy.jpg01:05
dpuppwould anyone be willing to help this newbie with how to secure his network using spa in ubuntu?01:05
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locomorto|watermarlun: no01:05
dpuppeer wpa i mean01:05
Seveasdpupp, sure01:05
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j4v4m4nwhich script in /etc/rc.d start display manger (gdm, kdm ..) ?01:05
dooglusaurora: ~/.* matches ~/.. ; if you were root, ~ is /root and ~/.. is / - so you changed / recursively...01:05
BROKEN_LADDERi think i'm getting carpal tunnel syndrome..my right wrist is killing me01:05
marlunlocomorto|water, ok, I'll have to find a guide on how to install it then :)01:05
Seveasdpupp, sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant01:05
Seveasedit the wpasupplicant config01:05
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dpuppseveas, i got that already/01:05
BROKEN_LADDERj4v4m4n just reconfigure it.  dpkg-reconfigure gdm01:05
Seveasdpupp, did you edit the config too?01:06
NoobieDoobieDosH4, Thanks.01:06
dpuppok editing wpasupplicant. how/?01:06
BROKEN_LADDERj4v4m4n use sudo of course01:06
mustard5Seveas, I got SGershon to install the packages that came up on that apt-cache search for glib ..he is off doing that now01:06
Obi-1i have problems with configuring my network eth01:06
auroraokay i got confused, i was trying to move files from one account in to another, i forgot in root the homedir would be different01:06
j4v4m4nBROKEN_LADDER: I compiled from source ;-( so no dpkg for me01:06
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Seveasdpupp, sudo gedit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf01:06
aurorahow can "~/" resolve to "/"?01:06
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fruudanyone know the cvs command for AMSN cvs version ? :)01:07
NoobieDoobieDois everyone here in a GUI ?01:07
nickrudaurora, an extra space in the wrong place. I did that once...01:07
dooglusvie|shuttle: ok.  good.  now in the black cmd window, type "cd Desktop" and then "md5sums ubuntu*.iso"01:07
dooglusvie|shuttle: then show me another photo :)01:07
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j4v4m4nBROKEN_LADDER: If I know where gdm starts in the init sequence I can just run /usr/local/bin/entrance01:07
aurorawhat extra space?01:07
dpuppseveas i see the config on scree now01:07
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Seveasdpupp, good, now add a section for your network at the bottom01:07
sH4: ) i want to learn about linux and english in here.01:07
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nickrudaurora, nm, if / is all root:root, my worries are baseless01:08
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Seveasdpupp, is it a simple wpa network?01:08
marlunis there an easy key-combination to change between the 4 desktops?01:08
j4v4m4nsH4: good01:08
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BROKEN_LADDERj4v4m4n i don't know where it runs from.. good question.01:08
dirksonHello all. Can anyone help me out a bit with an error at boot time?01:08
dpuppseveas, as far as im aware, it should be. its just plan wpa with a passphrase...01:08
BROKEN_LADDERhttp://www.craigslist.org/eby/apa/110434808.html <--check out this little charmer folks.01:08
aurorals -l / resulted in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/435401:08
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dpuppim new to wpa as well. swtiching from wep because i could not get wep working01:09
aurorahowever, i did try and rerun the command after to put things back to normal, using root:root01:09
Seveasdpupp, then at the bottom, add something like specified on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/435501:09
vie|shuttledooglus: http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=startingtogetsad2li.jpg01:09
icewtmarlun: in gnome ctrl+alt+arrows (right/left)01:09
sH4: )01:09
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dpupploading link01:09
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aurorai started getting "maildrop" errors in user terminals and sudo was complaining that /etc/sudoers wasn't owned by root, which is what scared me01:10
dooglusvie|shuttle: sorry.  I meant for you to hit return between 'cd desktop' and the rest01:10
marlunicewt, thanks =)01:10
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aurorawhat i dont get is how chown managed to get out of /root/, unless its stupid enough to recurse in to ".."01:10
dooglusvie|shuttle: and the 'md5sums' command was a bit different than what you typed01:11
vbgunzhello everyone... can someone guide me to creating a launcher that launches three things? 1. a terminal. 2. a text file for notes. 3. a linux ebook. I am always launching them together *but* cannot successfully create a single launcher to launch all 3 at once... any help is appreciated. I've tried some things "but I am messing up... I tried some variations *but* opened about 5 evince windows with errors... Any insight is appreciated01:11
dooglusaurora: you told it to chown ~/.*01:11
nickrudaurora, .* does match ..01:11
dooglusaurora: that includes ~/..01:11
vbgunzI tried this "gnome-terminal --working-directory=%f && gedit "/home/vbgunz/notes/Running Linux 4th Edition" && evince "%U /home/vbgunz/ebooks/running_linux_4e.pdf"" but no go :(01:11
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vie|shuttledooglus so cd desktop enter than md5sums01:11
auroraoooooooh01:11
aurorai see01:11
dooglusvie|shuttle: yep01:11
vie|shuttledooglus so cd desktop enter than md5sums and the iso file name?01:11
dpuppseveas i add that at the verry bottom?01:11
auroradamn!01:11
Seveasdpupp, yes01:12
dooglusvie|shuttle: yes.  note that the .iso file name ends with .iso (windows hides known extensions by default)01:12
Seveasdpupp, and of course you change it to mention your ssid and key ;)01:12
dooglusaurora: however, if the chown ran in /, why aren't all the files in / owned by the user?01:12
vie|shuttledooglus so i dont have to type .iso or i do?01:12
dooglusvie|shuttle: you have to01:12
mustard5vbgunz, could you not put three custom applications launchers (applets) on the top panel ?01:12
dooglusvie|shuttle: you can probably type "md5sums ubuntu" and then hit the TAB key to have Windows complete the name for you01:12
auroradooglus, after the command i ran it again to put it back to root, but i terminated it again like the first01:13
dpuppok. i read an encrypted key instead of just plain text key should i avoid the plain text or?01:13
vbgunzmustard5: yeah, but I have to launch them one by one... I launch all three together but one by one...01:13
auroraim guessing it got the top level directories01:13
dooglusaurora: what was the command exactly?  were you logged in as root, or using sudo?01:13
xjonexvbgunz, try gnome-terminal|gedit01:13
vbgunzxjonex: ok01:13
auroraum...01:13
Seveasdpupp, just put your key there in plain text01:13
dooglusaurora: it would work depth-first I believe.01:13
aurorai think logged in, but im not sure01:13
dpuppok01:13
dpuppdone01:13
mustard5vbgunz, seems to me that that might become redundant over time..whereas three might remain useful for longer01:13
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vie|shuttledooglus it went to 100%01:14
aurorait was "chown -R user:user ~/.*"01:14
aurorawell, user:user would be aurora:aurora on my box...01:14
vbgunzmustard5: 1. is a terminal. 2. is a text file. 3. is an ebook. they all belong together...01:14
Seveasdpupp, cool, then now let's test it01:14
Seveasdpupp, open a terminal01:14
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Seveasdpupp, btw: which card/driver do you use?01:15
vbgunzxjonex: thanks but no cigar :(01:15
dortowhat application can i use to test whether my philips webcamera is supported in ubuntu or not?01:15
aurorais there something i can do to make sure everything is right apart from reinstall? maybe everything but /home/* is supposed to be owned by root or something simple like that?01:15
BROKEN_LADDERnight01:15
dooglusvie|shuttle: then what did it say?  I'm looking for a 32 character string01:15
dpuppseveas, thats a good question. brb.01:15
vie|shuttledooglus it worked this time i think it actually did sumthing and than it says 100% and text and letters01:15
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dirkson*sighs* I've got a bit of a nasty problem on bootup, it's probably related to one of the options I picked when I recompiled the kernel. Can anyone help me for a couple moments with it?01:15
vie|shuttledooglus do u want me to tell u the 32 letters?01:15
dooglusvie|shuttle: or make another screenshot01:16
Secreth`XOk this is probably a dumb question but what about DirectX in wine? Because I need it to run the game :x01:16
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mustard5dirkson, stating your problem up front would be better01:16
dooglusvie|shuttle: or just check if it says "7fbe948be484ba2f4740ab6113890652" ('cos it should)01:16
vie|shuttle7fbe948be484ba2f4740ab611389065201:16
scribblesI locked my screen for about 10 hours and come back and now my weather desklet is a solid gray bar and the gdesklets icon is missing frm the system tray, and when I go to restart gdesklets it starts then won't respond and you have to force quit01:17
dirkson*laughs* I would if I could. It's repeating series of error messages on the boot, but I don't know enough to find the bootlog afterwards, so I can't give the exact message01:17
dooglussapo: that's why it doesn't work.  remove the version you downloaded and run "sudo apt-get bittorrent".  then it'll work.01:17
mustard5dirkson, ah ok01:17
dooglussapo: sorry.  "sudo apt-get install bittorrent"01:17
vie|shuttledooglus they are the same one is that good?01:17
dooglusvie|shuttle: it means you have the .iso file as it should be.01:17
mustard5dirkson, you now how to use pastebin (just curious)01:17
dooglusvie|shuttle: so either the burn to cd failed, or breezy doesn't work with your hardware.  I would guess it's a bad burn.01:18
dpuppseveas, its a dlink im certain.... but in the device manager its showing as texas instrument acx 100-22 wireless interface.01:18
vie|shuttlewell can i give u my specs and u tell me if there ok?01:18
dooglusvie|shuttle: burn another CD, and make sure nothing is running on the PC while you do it.  sudden bursts of activity on the PC can mess up a burn01:18
sapodooglus ok, thanx01:18
surfduehey01:19
dooglusvie|shuttle: I wouldn't know, sorry.01:19
surfdueduring the install01:19
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vie|shuttledooglus ok man01:19
dirksonYah. First time you guys told it to me, it barfed my connection, but I hardcoded a hack into the kernel, and now my internet connection is rock solid. (Though you don't even want to see what I did to that code. *shudder*) I find the concept of pastebin... curious, and I'm really surprised that you can get most people to use it. Makes sense, though01:19
dpuppseveas, dwl-520+ , not sure about driver.01:19
surfduesome packages broke and wouldnt insatll, how do i fix all broken packages now that im on the net?01:19
vie|shuttledooglus i will go do that right now if it doesnt work i am going to go jump off a cliff :D jk:)01:19
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surfduewhen i startup all i have is normal sheel not gnome so im gessing gnome is one of the problems01:19
dooglusdirkson: did you see the little script on the ubuntu pastebin page?  it makes it a lot easier to use.01:19
Seveasdpupp, can you put the output of lsmod and iwconfig on the pastebin01:19
vbgunzanyone know how to create a launcher for "gnome-terminal" and have it accept a cmdline as if I put the command in the console?01:20
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dooglusI can just "command -args | pastebin" now to paste command output directly to the site01:20
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Seveasvbgunz, gnome-terminal -e "command arg1 arg2"01:20
scribbleswhats the command ot see all running processes01:20
mustard5dirkson, it makes for efficient troubleshooting :)  I was just curious as it seems it might be necessary in this situation01:20
vbgunzSeveas: will try01:20
bluebloodHow can I see the movies at www.gamespot.com? In windows I need wmp10.01:20
dooglusscribbles: "ps -ef"01:20
mustard5dirkson, although if its just one line repeating the same error......*shrugs*01:21
dirksonTrue. Didn't see the script, Dooglus, going to take another look now.01:21
dpuppseveas - paste bin?01:21
NoobieDoobieDowow01:21
SGershon:P Now, it says: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4356 . Unbelievable --> 2.0.0 != 2.0 ??01:21
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surfdueanyone?01:21
NoobieDoobieDototal command line chatting here.01:21
Seveasdpupp, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:21
dirksonMustard5, Well, two lines. But there are related lines before it as well, I think.01:21
NoobieDoobieDoIRC, yahoo.  I feel l33t.01:21
NoobieDoobieDojk01:21
dpuppok brb.01:21
surfdueduring install there are some broken packages how do I have the package system repair these broken packages?01:21
mustard5dirkson, k..I am certain it will be beyond my abilities anyway :)01:21
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mustard5SGershon, checking it now....01:22
scribblesanyone else have a problem with gdesklets locking after going away for a while01:22
dortowhat application can i use to video chat using webcamera in ubuntu? gaim seems to have no such option01:22
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SeveasSGershon, you need the -dev packages01:22
Seveaslibglib2.0-dev01:22
dirksonMustard5, Ah, well, thanks anyway. Any chance you could remind me where to find the bootlog, anyway? Useful thing, that.01:22
mustard5Seveas, I just sent him off to get those..(I thought )01:22
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SGershonSeveas, mustard5, I have them installed! I apt-getted them, at least.01:23
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dirksonThe last three days have really pushed my limits. Really hard to remember every little place where Linux keeps stuff.01:23
mustard5dirkson, someone here will know01:23
SeveasSGershon, in that case ./configure of that software is broken01:23
Seveasah nvm01:23
SGershonAnd I just checked in Synaptic. They're there.01:23
Seveasyou need libgtk2.0-dev01:23
dooglusSGershon: you can "apt-get build-dep <package>" to get the packages you need to build <package>01:23
surfdueanyone?01:23
mustard5SGershon, it wants gtk 2.0 now01:23
surfdueplease?01:23
MarcNdirkson: locate is helpful to find files01:24
j4v4m4nhighvoltage: Thanks ! I found out the mistake01:24
SGershonmustard5, The part I liked most was: 2.0 < 2.0.0 .01:24
dortoor an application which can allow me to take pics from the web camera?01:24
SGershondooglus, I'll try that now.01:24
mustard5SGershon, :)01:24
j4v4m4nBROKEN_LADDER: Thanks I found out the mistake01:24
dpuppseveas sorry its taking me long, im transfering between machines using mem pen...01:24
Seveasdpupp, no sweat, take your time :)01:24
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vbgunzseveas, thanks, it might work *but* not for me... am trying to launch three things with one launcher... I might need to learn how to script something like a batch file or something... thanks!01:25
dirksonMarcN, well, I'm really not sure what to look for. Is it really just called 'bootlog', or something silly like that?01:25
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mustard5dirkson, would they be with the other log files in /var/log ?01:25
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MarcNdirkson: not sure what you are looking for, but "locate filename" is useful to find filename01:25
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dirksonQuite possibly. I was checking in there, but I can look again. It's quite easy to miss things, I think01:26
auroraof course xchat crashes x.x01:26
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dpuppodd the file i copied over from linux is not showing on the pen drive...01:26
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mustard5anyone know where the record of the boot log is kept?01:27
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SGershonsorsis, no idea on how to solve: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4356 ?01:27
dirksonMarcN, Basically, I'm just looking for a record of the text that scrolls across my screen when I boot01:27
SGershons/sorsis/so,01:28
mustard5dirkson, is it kern.log?  (totally guessing :D )01:28
SGershonUff.01:28
marlunis there a site that list some keyboard shortcuts in ubuntu? For example, is there a keyboard shortcut to bring up a teminal window?01:28
auroraand of course i had to [sware]  every [sware]  thing up one day after everything was finally working perfectly01:28
MarcNdirkson: seems I have a bootlog daemon installed, but not enabled by default.01:28
mustard5nope..not kern.log01:28
MarcNdirkson:  need to edit /etc/default/bootlogd to enable it on boot.01:29
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Seveasdpupp, did you properly unmount the usb stick before removing?01:29
ompaulmustard5, dmesg the log file01:29
dirkson*finds a log buried deep in a subdirectory* Wait a minute, this might be better.........01:29
MarcNdirkson: and looking in /etc/init.d/bootlogd startup script it would seem that /var/log/boot is where it goes.01:29
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ompaulmustard5, it aint dmesg the command :-)01:30
dpuppseveas, probably not.01:30
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vie|shuttledooglus its doing the same thing says console shuts up killing interupt handeler on next line and sits there blinking _01:30
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Seveasdpupp, that would explain ;)01:30
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MarcNdirkson: /etc/init.d/ is where startup scripts are, /etc/default/ are frequently configuration files for them.  /var/log/ is where things are logged.01:31
Seveastry to copy the file again and unmount the drive before removing01:31
Seveasalso run the windows filesystem checker on the usb pen, it is probably corrupt noe01:31
dooglusvie|shuttle: I guess it's time to find the nearest cliff then.01:31
Seveasnow*01:31
elemental32How long did it take you guys to reciv you ubuntu cds??01:31
dooglusvie|shuttle: I'm sorry it had to come to this.  It's been great the short time we've spent together.  I wish you better luck in your next life.  :)01:31
dpuppheh learned something new. ;)01:31
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mustard5dirkson, man dmesg has hints :)01:31
vie|shuttledooglus linux made me love bill gates :( this is sad01:31
Secreth`Xelemental32, a few weeks01:32
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dooglusvie|shuttle: installing windows is no walk in the park either.  most PCs come with it ready installed, so people don't notice how messy it can be to hunt down all the right drivers.01:32
dpuppseveas, ok, in paste bin, do i put your name or mine?01:32
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Seveasdoesn't matter :)01:32
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dpuppok done01:33
Secreth`XIm lucky Enemy Territory has a linux distrubution :)01:33
dpuppseveas http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/435701:33
vie|shuttledooglus lol, windows is x10 easier at least it works when you put it in :) and hunting down drivers isnt hard as long as you know your hardware and a simple program like everest can give you that info01:33
Seveaswhat the...01:35
zandohi at all, how i can create the Packages file from a deb files?01:35
SeveasI se no network drivers there :|01:35
vie|shuttledooglus do you think another distro of linux would work ive heard good things from this distro but obviously it doesnt like me :( so i might try another distro01:35
Seveasdpupp, what did you do already to get wifi working?01:35
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bigkahunaAnybody using the sidebar gdesklet?01:36
dpuppseveas, its not working...  i turned on wep in the router, and it went down. turned it off, and i can connect... however, with wpa on, i cant connect again01:36
dpuppim on an xpmachine now ...01:36
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vie|shuttledpupp stay away i ward u linux is evil lol01:36
Seveasdpupp, but you did not do anything on the linux machine to get the driver working (ie: the driver itself worked right after install)?01:37
dpuppmy wificard is off at the moment in ubuntu. dissabled.01:37
dpuppno, it worked fine after install with wifi off.01:37
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Seveaseww, it's a texas intrumens card :S01:37
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dpuppseveas, should i set it back to working? and continue from within ubuntu?01:38
vie|shuttlestarting a new channel named #ihatelinux if linux hates u hate it back :)01:38
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Seveasdpupp, ok, let's try this in a terminal, with the wireless card enabled: sudo wpa_supplicant -Bw -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext -iwlan001:39
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Secreth`XGo Seveas01:39
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Seveasdpupp, after that, repeatedly try: sudo wpa_cli status to see whether it worked01:39
Secreth`X*cheerleaderdance*01:39
Seveasonce it says 'authenticated' it worked and we can finalize this01:39
SeveasSecreth`X, please do not cheer muting/kicking/banning - it's not that we like doing this01:40
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Secreth`Xyay, k, sorry :p01:40
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morphixi know i should ask in #egghelp, etc but they dont seem to ever be 'alive', but does anyone in here know about eggdrop's?01:41
Kamping_Kaiserway complex :|01:41
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icewtmorphix: what do you need to know?01:42
dooglusvie|shuttle: it's possible you would have more luck with a different distro.01:42
keironcan someone please give me some tips on getting streaming audio working?01:42
dooglusvie|shuttle: ubuntu's a good one though.01:42
morphixi have everything on my eggdrop working. i had to recompile, etc to add SSL support.. but cannot get the eggdrop to connect using SSL.01:42
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icewtmorphix: hmm.. sorry, don't know about that01:44
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morphixdamn. lol worth a try.01:44
morphixi have been trying to get help from #egghelp, etc on many different networks.. and no 1 responds.. even after idling for nearly 4 hours01:44
morphix:(01:44
icewt:/01:45
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volkerhi. anybody here has "e17genmenu" compiled??01:46
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fredforfaenyeah volker01:46
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mustard5heh01:46
volkerive got this error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/435901:47
mustard5vie|shuttle, take a deep breath and count to ten01:47
volkerfredforfaen: can u tell me which packages uve installed?01:47
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fredforfaenvolker i dont understand german and no sorry i dont remember what pkgsd i installed01:48
seliniumSeveas, Have you got a password on your sun-j2re1.5 package, It keeps staying on my list of updates available.  :)01:48
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keironstreaming audio. which codec should i install to get it working?01:48
volkerit is missing something about Engrave.h01:48
Seveasselinium, meh, no ;)01:48
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Seveas(I need to update the package first, sun has a newer version; ping me in an hour)01:49
fredforfaenvolker apt-cache search Engrave01:49
fruudi need help01:49
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NgSeveas: just point people at java-package, it's so easy in breezy :)01:49
SeveasNg, that too, but some people are lazy ;)(01:49
fruudwhat do i do ?01:49
fruudchecking for gcc... no01:49
fruudchecking for cc... no01:49
fruudchecking for cc... no01:49
fruudchecking for cl... no01:49
fruudconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH01:49
fruudSee `config.log' for more details.01:49
seliniumSeveas, np :) I have your repo in my list, so it will be there waiting for me! :) CHeers Seveas :)01:49
NgSeveas: frankly, sod them :)01:49
_jasonfruud, don't paste, and have you installed build-essentials package?01:50
EvilPaddyHas anyone had trouble installing crossover office, I get this when I try to install it: "'$HOME' must exist and belong to you for the installation to proceed. You may need to log in as root or use su rather than sudo" - Any ideas people, I have no root user!?01:50
mustard5fruud, first you should learn about the pastebin01:50
Seveasfruud, do NOT paste in here01:50
NgEvilPaddy: how are you installing it?01:50
fruudsry !01:50
Seveasand install a .deb of whatever you need01:50
fruud_jason, apt-get install build-essentials?01:50
mustard5fruud, secondly you should sudo apt-get install build-essential01:50
EvilPaddyNg, sh ./install-crossover-pro-5.0.0.sh01:50
_jasonfruud, well first you should make sure there isn't a deb in the repos for what you need, then yeah that should work... not sure if there is an 's' at the end01:51
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NgEvilPaddy: are you logged in as you? or did you do that with sudo? Generally crossover is best installer per-user01:51
fruudokay01:51
fruudty01:51
mustard5fruud, what are you installing?01:51
fruudamsn01:51
fruudthe cvs version01:51
fruudmakes my webcam work01:51
EvilPaddyNg, I did it as sudo01:51
mustard5fruud, ah ok01:52
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dooglusfruud: install build-essential.  then do "sudo apt-get build-dep amsn".  then build the cvs sources.01:52
irritatosalve a tutti01:52
irritatoci sono italiani qui?01:52
NgEvilPaddy: do it again without sudo01:52
Seveas!it01:52
ubotuitaliano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)01:52
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NgEvilPaddy: and just install it in your home directory01:52
dylan_will ubuntu work with an external hard disk enclosure01:52
Seveasyes01:53
dooglusdylan_: I've had it work with both USB2 and FireWire external hard disks01:53
bigkahunaHas anyone used Azureus on Breezy after having used it on Windows? I'm finding that the interface is a little buggy on Breezy. Some of the buttons dont work as expected and the information relating to download speed and ETA for download complete is totally screwed.01:53
dooglusdylan_: kind of.  it works for about 2 hours whether I use USB or FireWire.01:53
dooglusdylan_: but with regluar reboots it's fine01:53
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Secreth`Xhmm, gedit is stuck here, can I do something like kill gedit?01:54
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dylan_dooglus, why need reboot?01:54
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EvilPaddyNg, thanks it worked..weird, What do you think of crossover ?01:55
juliushey anyone can help get a sh file running?01:55
naliothSecreth`X: alt-f2 > xkill  and hit gedit01:55
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dooglusdylan_: the kernel module that it needs keeps crashing.  smb2 or something I think it is01:55
elemental32i have a question01:55
Secreth`Xk thx01:55
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mustard5Secreth`X, click multiple times on the kill button is an alternative01:56
elemental32howlong did it take for you guys to recv your ubuntu cd's??01:56
NgEvilPaddy: for what it is, it's quite impressive I think. I prefer to use native linux apps wherever possible though - I only really use it for when I absolutely have to have IE01:56
elemental32ubuntu seems nice01:56
intelikeycould i trubble one of you to dcc me a copy of /etc/bashrc  and  /etc/profile   i failed to back them up  and overwrote them with copies from another system.01:56
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dooglusdylan_: sbp2 sorry01:56
dylan_dooglus, wuold it work fine under Windows XP?01:56
fruud_jason, can i just show u what error it gave me now ?01:56
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fruudits 1 lined.01:56
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dooglusdylan_: yeah.01:56
_jasonyou can paste one line errors, yes01:56
dylan_dooglus, are you saying that xp is better than ubuntu!??!01:56
fruud_jason, Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev01:56
fruudthis01:57
fruud:(01:57
intelikeyanyone ?01:57
dooglusdylan_: I'm saying it has better hardware support, yes01:57
Milk_whats the option to output a wave from a video file in mplayer?01:57
_jasonfruud, you probably need a tcl-dev package?01:57
Secreth`XThanks all (again)01:57
elemental32I would agree with that windows is still better than linux01:57
Milk_ls01:57
dooglusdylan_: manufacturers write drivers for XP, not for Linux for the most part.  The linux drivers are often reverse engineered01:57
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dylan_dooglus, do you know how to secure Windows?01:58
naliothbrenner: about time you got here01:58
intelikeyguess not.   well thanks just the same.01:58
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_jasonfruud, try tcl8.4-dev01:58
naliothdylan_: yes, i do. overwrite it with linux01:58
elemental32No01:58
fruudk thx01:58
brennernalioth: heh. hello.  what have i missed?01:58
naliothbrenner: spambot attack yesterday01:58
dooglusdylan_: you can't, really.  same as you can't secure linux.  if you want to do anything useful with it, it's got to be on-line - and then there are undiscovered holes that can be exploited.01:58
elemental32I dont recommend using linux for noobs01:58
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naliothdooglus: did you just say you couldn't secure linux?01:59
brennernalioth: nice01:59
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elemental32Trust me linux is not going to be fun01:59
dooglusnalioth: if 'secure' == '100% secure' then yes01:59
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naliothelemental32: it grows on you01:59
d^-_-^belemental32, Ubuntu is idiot proof as you can get01:59
Ngnothing is 100% secure01:59
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Ngin fact, nothing *can* be01:59
naliothdooglus: nothing in the universe is 100% secure01:59
dylan_Ng, so in that respect could i just use windows?01:59
Ngbut if you have no listening services you are a bloody long way to being secure01:59
Milk_whats the option to output a wave from a video file in mplayer?01:59
Ngdylan_: no01:59
dylan_Ng, and have the same security as linux?01:59
dylan_no?>02:00
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Ngdylan_: how can you have the same security? they are different pieces of software02:00
Ngeach has its own bugs02:00
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naliothdylan_: ubuntu is much nicer to use, you spend lots less time fighting viruses and other nasty stuff02:00
dylan_Ng, doesnt windows have a slew of security settings?02:00
dooglusNg: even with no listening services, you're still at risk.  do you run a web browser?  do you view images with it?  what if the image renderer has (yet another) buffer overrun bug in it?02:00
Ngdylan_: more recent versions of windows have more security tools in them, yes02:00
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Secreth`XIs there a `search` function in the File Browser?02:01
Ngdooglus: if you run ubuntu you are running a web browser with ~10% market share, that is patched quickly and regularly. You are a very veyr small target02:01
dylan_Ng, where can i go to get help on how to secure windows...i dont exactly want to use antivirus/spyware software to secure...from what i hear thats not security its just an "excuse"02:01
elemental32Hey men if your not sure just install ubuntu alongside windows02:01
Ngdylan_: no idea, I don't use windows anymore02:01
dooglusNg: that's security by obscurity, which is no security at all.02:01
mustard5Secreth`X, there is a search function in the Places menu02:02
brennerSecreth`X: places > search for files02:02
Ngdooglus: no it's not02:02
Secreth`Xok thanks02:02
Ngdooglus: if you want a real comparison, audit both code bases. See you in a few years.02:02
brennernalioth: meanwhile, i still seem to have that apt syncing problem02:02
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dooglusNg: and it's only patched once the hole is made public.  It could be known and exploited for years before it's disclosed.02:02
Ngdooglus: that is true of Windows too02:02
Ngdooglus: all software has bugs and holes, you pick the stuff that exposes you least and do your best to protect it.02:03
naliothubotu: tell brenner about gpgerr02:03
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brenneri.e. error that apt-cache can't be stat'ed when i search it02:03
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dooglusNg: I'm arguing with your statement that if you have no listening ports then you're almost done, security wise.  I'm not comparing Linux to Windows.02:03
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morphixu cant apt-get with anything other than sudo.02:03
keironhow do i enable streaming audio?02:03
morphixoh crap. totally scrolled screen.02:03
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Ngdooglus: how many legitimate sites have image overflow sploits in them?02:03
Hex1does anyone know how to get a two-plug headset workin in breezy?02:04
gf-boyerfor french users what the x-chat chanel please?02:04
keironi followed this http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs but half the packages are broken02:04
brennernalioth: is it a gpg error thoguh?02:04
naliothgf-boyer: #ubuntu-fr02:04
naliothbrenner: sounds like you have another error02:04
gf-boyerthank u malioth02:04
naliothkeiron: oh no02:04
d^-_-^bgf-boyer, taking break from harassing the arabs?02:04
mustard5brenner, it looks like you need to sudo apt-get update02:04
naliothkeiron: you didnt?02:04
naliothubotu: tell keiron about ubuntuguide02:04
KrimZoni can't seem to access the upgrade page02:04
naliothubotu: tell keiron about multimedia02:04
dooglusNg: there was a case about a year ago where an ad-serving company was attacked.  it was serving ads to legitamate sites all over the web.  only problem was these ads were doing drive-by installs on Windows boxes.02:05
naliothubotu: tell keiron about restricted02:05
d^-_-^bgf-boyer, don't you have some disciminating against arabs to do right now?02:05
dylan_nalioth, look at this http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/XPMyths.html02:05
naliothdooglus: Ng: please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic02:05
dooglusNg: limiting yourself to 'legitamate' sites doesn't help02:05
brennermustard5: i do, and it fixes it, but the problem is the cache gets cleared every day or so, and reupdating is a pain on dialup02:05
Ngdooglus: then you are fucked on any platform. and as nalioth says, this is off topic.02:05
keirongreat02:05
mustard5brenner, same thing happens to me02:05
naliothNg: language bubba language02:06
Hex1anyone know how to get a two plug headset working?02:06
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mustard5brenner, I'm on dialup too02:06
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naliothdylan_: why are you gifting me with that link?02:06
brennermustard5: oh? at leasdt i'm not alone....i don't seem to recall having this problem in hoary02:06
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dylan_nalioth, didnt you say it was impossible to secure windows?02:06
[dEvIL-bOY] helllo02:06
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KrimZonwhen was breezy released?02:06
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mustard5brenner, yeah, I've been a bit mystified by it too02:06
brennermustard5: have you found a fix other than updating?02:06
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Kamping_Kaiser13th last month02:06
[dEvIL-bOY] how can i transfer a file using scp to a remote machine?02:06
[dEvIL-bOY] what is the sintax02:07
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[dEvIL-bOY] ?02:07
mustard5brenner, I'm wondering whether I have changed a setting somewhere02:07
erik__hello all02:07
poningruhey anyone know how to figure out what the ascii codes mean?02:07
poningrulike 0xbb02:07
KrimZonso it's not likely that the page is overloaded from people trying to get it02:07
erik__I have a problem with my USB stick02:07
shinuanyone using azureus cvs here?02:07
naliothdylan_: i have the ultimately secure windows box02:07
poningruwhat does that mean regarding the keyboard02:07
mustard5brenner, you using a proxy ?02:07
brennermustard5: i'm wondering if something is clearing the cache periodically02:07
erik__USB sticks mounts read only. How can i change this?02:07
shinuerik__: how do you mount it?02:07
brennermustard5: no02:07
poningruerik__: they shouldnt, how are you mounting it?02:07
mustard5brenner, k02:08
brennermustard5: are you?02:08
SGershonmustard5, me bak again. I installed ALL gtk packages and now it works.02:08
erik__ubuntu breezy does a automount02:08
SGershonLike a charm02:08
poningruhmm02:08
erik__it just shows op on the desktop02:08
poningruerik__: check to see if the usb has a write protect switch or something02:08
poningrulike physically on the thing02:08
poningrumine has one02:09
erik__poningru: it's of. it works fine on windows...02:09
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shinuerik__: have a look at /etc/fstab maybe, and look up the line saying /dev/sda02:09
mustard5SGershon, you have done well :D02:09
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shinuerik__: just guessing :P02:09
occy:/02:09
SGershonmustard5, Livin and Learning...02:09
poningruerik__: also what kinda usb key is it?02:09
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erik__shinu: it's not in fstab02:09
occyif I try and apt-get remove firefox   I get the following:  The following packages will be REMOVED: firefox firefox-dom-inspector firefox-gnome-support gnome-app-install ubuntu-desktop yelp02:10
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dylan_nalioth, which is to say not at all02:10
erik__poningru: it's a 1gb usbstick02:10
occyI don't want to remove ubuntu-desktop.02:10
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occyheh02:10
shinuerik__: no idea then, i dont really use automount...02:10
juliushi guys how can I run a bin file02:10
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erik__poningru: I've used it a lot on ubuntu before02:10
poningruerik__: what make and model?02:10
mustard5brenner, I'm thinking it clears the cache each time you shutdown and bootup (I have no real idea though)02:10
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erik__poningru: TinyDisk02:10
poningruwanted to google and see if this is a common problem02:10
occythe firefox I have that's with Ubuntu is totally buggy and crashes every 5mins on me.  Very hard to use and work with.02:11
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halibutCan shipit send CDs to australia? I read FAQ but didn't see anything about which countries it will send to02:11
naliothoccy: use galeon02:11
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naliothhalibut: they send anywhere the post goes02:11
keironwill there ever come a time when ubuntu comes with all the "normal" user requirements are setup correctly?02:11
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erik__poningru: it did work before. Can really say what changed it02:11
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poningruhmm02:11
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poningruerik__: right click on the thing and go to permission and try changing it there02:12
naliothkeiron: no. ubuntu is "free" and cannot include support that is patent encumbered or otw legally restricted02:12
poningruerr under properties02:12
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erik__pningru: I tried that. I get a response that things can not be changed because it's a read only volume02:12
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Ngnalioth: yes, because eventually Real, Sun, et al will see the light ;)02:12
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keironomg... streaming audio is legally restricted?02:12
poningruhmm02:12
J_elementhello nalioth02:12
artur_siema02:12
poningruI wonder why its being mounted read only02:12
brennermustard5: maybe... i haven't pinpointed it to that, but you might be right02:13
Habbiekeiron, depends on the codec :)02:13
artur_I'm from poland02:13
mustard5brenner, a cron job of some kind perhaps?02:13
mustard5brenner, I have never looked into cron much02:13
poningruhave you tried umounting it and then mount it again02:13
poningru?02:13
brennermustard5: *nod* my initial thought....i haven't looked into it much either02:13
jaceksiema02:13
erik__poningru: is there a place where i can check that it is actually mounted read only?02:13
volkeranyone can help me? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/435902:13
erik__poningry: tried it serveral times02:13
poningru!automount02:14
ubotuI don't know, poningru02:14
poningruhmm02:14
poningru!mount02:14
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives02:14
mustard5brenner, I'm going to be lazy and just sudo apt-get update each day ;)02:14
mustard5brenner, less thought involved :P02:14
poningrubecause if its not in fstab02:14
poningruI dont know where it automounts to02:14
brennermustard5: i hate waiting though.02:14
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MarcNvolker: locate Engrave.h      to see if you have the file02:14
brennermustard5: hmm, i'm no expert on apt, but there seems to be an apt entry in the /etc/cron.daily/ dir02:15
erik__poningru : /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=wi nnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)02:15
brenner*no expert on cron rather02:15
onkarshinde!windowsdrives02:15
ubotuwindowsdrives is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:15
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volkerMarcN: no its not there02:16
poningruerik__: where did you find that?02:16
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MarcNvolker: or if it is a new file recently installed, try    find / -name 'Engrave.h'02:16
mustard5brenner,  "APT::Archives::MaxAge",02:16
mustard5 ?02:16
erik__poningru: result of mount command02:16
poningruah02:16
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mustard5brenner, maybe relevant..I dont know ;)02:16
mylastmorninghows ubuntu working? i haven't played with it for a month or 2...02:16
agxHi, anyone has installed 5.10 onto a 2 Xeon server using the amd64 architecture and the smp kernel for xeon (linux-amd64-xeon) ?02:16
erik__poningru: but in pratice I can still not write to it02:16
mylastmorningany good news?02:16
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poningruyeah even though it says rw02:17
MarcNvolker: if you really don't have it on your system, need to perhaps install the -dev package of whatever you are trying to use.02:17
brennergawd, i can't think properly tonight02:17
brenners/no/know02:17
poningruyeah sorry dude I have no idea02:17
erik__poningru: thanks anyway02:17
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mylastmorninganyone want to give me a personal opinion on how ubuntu has been working lately? I haven't touched it for a few months.02:17
Secreth`Xdoes someone know a good game that runs on ubuntu?02:18
poningrumylastmorning: how do you mean?02:18
volkerMarcN: i wanna compile e17genmenu02:18
poningruSecreth`X: go into synaptic, there is an entire games section02:18
naliothSecreth`X: gnome-mines02:18
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Secreth`XYes I know those02:18
poningruSecreth`X: what kinda games are you looking for?02:18
mylastmorningponingru, I was just asking how is the development of breezy coming along? any good words?02:18
Secreth`XBut I ment something like a fullscreen game02:18
poningrumylastmorning: I'd say so02:18
MarcNvolker: I'm unfamilar with that, but it seems you need to install the development package of whatever library e17genmenu is trying to use.  The thing that provides Engrave.h02:18
poningruits pretty polished and everything02:19
volkerMarcN: /usr/include/engrave/Engrave.h02:19
poningruSecreth`X: wolfenstien02:19
volkerEngrave.h is there02:19
mylastmorningI wish I had another system to put it on so I could play with it poningru02:19
poningruSecreth`X: and variants thereof02:19
Secreth`Xponingru, et of RTCW?02:19
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poningruyeah02:19
Secreth`XI cant seem to get ET up..02:19
MarcNvolker: so it is on your disk.  Then it could simply be a compile include path issue.02:19
nathanji just downloaded a deb and needs some depends how can i install the deb and just get depends at the same time?02:19
mylastmorninganyone know of a IRC channel for Flash Actionscript?02:19
naliothnathanj: what pkg?02:20
nathanjnalioth: avidemix in particular02:20
poningruet?02:20
nathanjnalioth: i downloaded the deb02:20
volkerMarcN: how?02:20
DigitalLFanyone know howto recive over tcp in syslog-ng to a file called lets say /var/log/myfirewall?02:20
nathanjnalioth: ive done dpkg -i file.deb but it has depends can i just make it download the deps?02:20
Secreth`XYes poningru I cant get it running02:20
MarcNvolker: yes, as i look at it again, you don't have a    -I /path/to/Engrave.h02:20
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agxIs it possible to run Ubuntu 5.10 on a dual Xeon with SMP on? I got a "crash" during the boot phase with the Xeon kernel; it boots fine with the generic 64 bit no-smp kernel instead02:21
naliothnathanj: where did the deb come from?02:21
nathanjnalioth: a web page02:21
nathanjnalioth: i jsut did this02:21
NgDigitalLF: syslog tends to use udp and I'm not sure if you can separate out by host02:21
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volkerMarcN: sorry i dont understand02:21
SGershonInstalled LAMP, the Apache Package, the PHP Packages, the MySQL packages... but when calling a php page from within the WWW directory, it is not understood as one. How to make LAMP work together?02:21
MarcNDigitalLF: this month' linux mag talks about it.  -r switch is 1/2 of the hint.02:21
poningruagx: just install the normal 64bit and then from synaptic you can change it to smp02:21
nathanjsudo dpkg -i --force-depends avidemux.deb02:21
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nathanjand then apt-get -f install :)02:22
nathanjfixes depps02:22
naliothnathanj: i'm trying to find out if it's open source, and if so, will suggest you add the source repo and let apt-get build it for you02:22
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naliothnathanj: --force breaks computers02:22
poningruSecreth`X: sorry dude I dont know what ET means02:22
nathanjnalioth: it is opensource02:22
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naliothnathanj: esp with packages not native to ubuntu02:22
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nathanjnalioth: meh i can fix it :)02:22
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DigitalLFNg, okey but is there a way to get everything from the network to a file02:22
MarcNvolker: The -I switch to GCC says where to look for Included files like Engrave.h.  Did you start this with ./configure  ?   Try ./configure --help and man need to use a switch to point to /usr/include/engrave/ directory.02:23
agxponingru, the 64bit-generic works ok but its not SMP; when i install the package with 64bit-xeon with SMP support it crash02:23
nathanjnalioth: ive had a few packages not in ubuntu i want :(02:23
Secreth`Xponingru, with ET I mean Wolfenstein Enemy Territory02:23
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DigitalLFMarcN, linux mag? url? or IRL? :)02:23
brenneranyone got flac support working with bmp?02:23
nathanjnalioth: cedega, avidemux, azureus etc02:23
poningruSecreth`X: WET dude wet02:23
NgDigitalLF: not really, syslog determins where to put a log entry by its facility (ie mail, kernel, cron, etc) and priority (info, notice, warning, error, etc)02:23
Secreth`Xponingru, same :D02:23
NgDigitalLF: so all mail.info from all hosts will go to the file you specify for mail.info02:23
MarcNnathanj: installing debs are simplest if you use download and install using a ubuntu repository.  does the depenancies for you.02:23
DigitalLFNg, syslog-ng is the one im running02:23
Secreth`XBut I still cant get it running lol02:23
poningruagx: hmm thats  weird02:23
volkeryes i used ./configure02:23
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nathanjMarcN: yeah but theres not muchin there02:23
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poningruagx: I would probably just compile my own kernel then02:24
SGershonHow to make APache and PHP to work together?02:24
naliothnathanj: it is best to add deb-src URLs to those pkgs and have apt-get build them for you02:24
MarcNnathanj: the ubuntu repositories? Are you crazy?  enable universe and multiverse.02:24
Secreth`Xubotu, tel SGershon about apache02:24
ubotuSecreth`X: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:24
poningruSGershon: LAMP02:24
Secreth`Xdang02:24
Secreth`Xubotu, tell SGershon about apache02:24
agxponingru, i cannot; the machine is not mine; if ubuntu is not working i'm putting i386 smp kernel or suggsting the customer to buy Suse or RH :-(02:24
Secreth`Xstupid typo02:24
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MarcNDigitalLF: I picked up the november issue at the local book seller.02:24
poningru!tell SGershon about apache02:24
rixthubotu, tell me about apache02:24
Secreth`Xrofl02:24
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SGershonponingru, I saw the LAMP Howto, and installed all the packages. Apache is working fine, but it does not recognizes PHP files as scripts.02:25
nathanjnalioth: and if there is no deb-src addys?02:25
MarcNDigitalLF: basically you enable -r on the sending syslogd, open udp port something on the receiving syslogd and configure receiving syslogd which nodes can log to it.02:25
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SGershonSecreth`X, see above.02:25
Shadowpillarokay02:25
poningruagx: hmm its probably because em64t smp support is experimental right now02:25
Shadowpillarfirefox doesn't work02:25
Shadowpillarat all02:25
Secreth`XI saw SGershon02:25
SGershon;)02:25
Secreth`XBut i got it working02:25
Shadowpillarfirefox that comes with breezy02:26
Secreth`XAnd I just read the howto02:26
agxponingru, so RH and SuSE has the same problem? wonderfull i can keep ubuntu smp 32bit then :)02:26
Shadowpillarit's BROKEN02:26
Secreth`Xponingru, do you play WET? :)02:26
DigitalLFMarcN, cant access the shell on the firewall (watchguard SOHO6)02:26
ShadowpillarCOMPLETELY BROKEN02:26
SGershonSecreth`X, Thanks for your attention!02:26
ShadowpillarSecreth`X: know what the hell is going on with firefox?02:26
poningruagx: yeah they probably will as well02:26
nathanjnalioth: for example what about vmware?02:26
naliothnathanj: compile it from source code and use checkinstall02:26
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naliothnathanj: vmware is a commercial product, not open source02:26
poningruI would say just compile it to your client, cause that would be the best option02:26
bigkahunaWhile playing MP3 files all other computer generated sounds are blocked. For example I can not here instant messenger notification, they are acutally buffered and when I stop the mp3 playback they come blasting out of my speakers one by one. Another example is playing mp3 files while browsing sound enabled flash websites. I dont here the flash sound effects.02:26
NgShadowpillar: works fine here, please don't shout. If you ask a question nicely someone will reply02:26
nathanjnalioth: whats the dif beetween checkinstall from src and precomppiled deb?02:26
DigitalLFMarcN, but its sending on default port to my ip02:26
Secreth`XShadowline, install another browser then, via synaptic02:26
bigkahunaWhile playing MP3 files all other computer generated sounds are blocked. For example I can not here instant messenger notification, they are acutally buffered and when I stop the mp3 playback they come blasting out of my speakers one by one. Another example is playing mp3 files while browsing sound enabled flash websites. I dont here the flash sound effects.02:27
MarcNDigitalLF: syslogd uses UDP to send log events.02:27
ShadowpillarNg: who said I was shouting?02:27
bigkahunaoops sorry.02:27
DigitalLFMarcN, no problem if i just can recive it02:27
naliothnathanj: precompiled debs, unless compiled for ubuntu may cause upgrade failure (or worse) for you02:27
agxponingru, ok i'll just make a last try disabling HT; thanks and c u later :)02:27
NgShadowpillar: I just did, because you were... "COMPLETELY BROKEN" - all caps is considered shouting02:27
poningruagx: good luck dude02:27
Secreth`Xponingru, do you play WET? :)02:27
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poningruSecreth`X: hehe who has time02:28
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DigitalLFMarcN, if not in a own file atleast tagged somehow so i can grab it.. its for a logger on my desk..02:28
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poningruplus I have this measly laptop02:28
Secreth`Xponingru, I do :)02:28
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poningruhehe02:28
Secreth`X:p02:28
NgDigitalLF: the hostname is logged, so you can grep easily enough02:28
Secreth`XBtw I installed it and everything02:28
nathanjnalioth: so far ive instaklled, jre-1.5-sun, cedega, avidemux02:28
Secreth`Xnow that I want to run it it just closes02:28
ShadowpillarSecreth`X: also, it's shadowpillar02:28
Kiboubigkahuna: you might want to look into dmix02:28
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poningruSecreth`X: hmm02:28
Secreth`Xsorry Shadowpillar, typo..02:28
poningruhold on let me see02:29
naliothnathanj: when you compile your own software you may get a more stable program02:29
Secreth`Xkthx poningru02:29
[dEvIL-bOY] scp -r /home/edgar/shot.png 1557@the1.no-ip.com:/public_html/ -d 22202:29
keironexcellent. i now have streaming audio :) thank you02:29
dpuppseveas sorry about that... my xp machine crashed.02:29
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MarcNDigitalLF: http://www.linux-mag.com/ current issue describes remote syslogding02:29
[dEvIL-bOY] what am  i doing wrong?02:29
poningruSecreth`X: where did you install it from?02:29
Secreth`XCrew-Nexus.net02:29
Ng[dEvIL-bOY] : -d 222?02:29
Secreth`X-sorry for the spam-02:29
nathanjnalioth: :s02:29
[dEvIL-bOY] port02:29
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[dEvIL-bOY] it's suppose to be the port02:30
ShadowpillarSecreth`X: I've been trying to get ubuntu to upgrade to breezy since 3 pm02:30
Shadowpillarit's now 5 am02:30
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Ng[dEvIL-bOY] : that would be -P02:30
bigkahunakibou: Thanks for the lead.02:30
ShadowpillarSecreth`X: it has taken me THAT LONG to get ubuntu to play nice02:30
Ng[dEvIL-bOY] : man scp :)02:30
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ShadowpillarSecreth`X: because of things like this02:30
MarcNShadowpillar: what is the problem.  I upgraded ages ago with no problems at all.  See the wiki page on upgrading.02:30
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Secreth`XShadowpillar, try Epiphany02:30
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ShadowpillarSecreth`X: it's messed up too02:31
Shadowpillarbecause it relies on firefox02:31
Secreth`XShadowpillar, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade02:31
Shadowpillarwell I cant02:31
Shadowpillarcan I?02:31
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Secreth`XSorry, I forgot02:31
mustard5Shadowpillar, Epiphany should work have you tried yet?02:32
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Ngfixing firefox would seem to make more sense02:32
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MarcNShadowpillar:  lynx http://..../ should work fine.02:32
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NgShadowpillar: check you have the ubuntu-desktop package installed - most upgrade problems come from people having removed that at some point02:33
fauxdoes anyone know why "mail" has been left out of breezy?02:33
mustard5Shadowpillar, I had firefox go down on Hoary and used Epiphany as a backup...so I assuming its possible on breezy02:33
ShadowpillarNg: it's installed02:33
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Ngfaux: I don't know why, but if you install mailx you'll get it back02:33
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NgShadowpillar: ok, how exactly is firefox broken? does it start at all?02:34
fauxNg: ah thanks, i was looking for the package that contained it.02:34
ShadowpillarNg: yes, but then there's a bunch of red XML warnings02:34
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Shadowpillarand it eats 100% cpu and almost crashes the system02:34
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DigitalLFMarcN, wierd cant find it02:35
poningruShadowline: dude go to your home directory02:35
NgShadowpillar: run "firefox -ProfileManager" in a terminal and create a new one, see if it does it with that too - it could just be that your profile is broken02:35
poningruhere go to a command line and type this out02:35
MarcNDigitalLF: find what?  The magazine?02:35
SGershonSee: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/436202:35
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ShadowpillarNg: did that, it does the same02:35
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poningrumv ~/.mozilla ~/Desktop02:35
poningruoh02:35
SGershonSecreth`X, mustard5... please see output (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4362).02:35
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Secreth`Xlol weird SGershon02:36
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NgShadowpillar: that's *very* strange. If you do "dpkg -l | grep firefox", what version does it say you have installed? it should be 1.0.702:36
Secreth`Xdid you follow the howto exactly?02:36
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SGershonSecreth`X, I believe saw.02:36
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Secreth`X?02:37
Secreth`Xoh, ok02:37
DigitalLFMarcN,02:37
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Shadowpillar1.0.702:37
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SGershonI've re-read it now, and I did everything.02:37
DigitalLFMarcN, no on the site02:37
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ShadowpillarI'm gonna try reinstall it02:37
NgSGershon: from the looks of it, you either don't have the apache php module installed or apache isn't configured to associate the php mime type with the module02:37
SGershons/saw/so02:37
MarcNDigitalLF: they want to you buy the magazine in dead-tree form so doubt it would be online.02:37
SGershonNg, I think it is hte second option.02:37
NgShadowpillar: good plan02:37
SGershonNg, any solution to it?02:38
NgDigitalLF: http://www.snort.org/docs/faq/1Q05/node50.html02:38
Secreth`Xponingru, found anything?02:38
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Shadowpillaralso, somehow, ubuntu-desktop is NOT installed02:38
poningruSecreth`X: no sorry dude still looking02:38
ShadowpillarI dunno how that happened02:38
Secreth`Xponingru, kthx02:38
Shadowpillarprolly somewhere in the bitter struggle to get this system to upgrade02:38
NgShadowpillar: if you had totem-xine installed before that would have caused -desktop to be removed02:38
NgShadowpillar: installing that package (and dependencies) may well fix your problems02:39
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Shadowpillarwhat happened to xine anyway?02:40
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NgShadowpillar: it's still there. maybe the package names changed, or the lack of ubuntu-desktop caused apt to get confused02:40
DigitalLFMarcN, sure but i cant get the "dead-tree form" :) im in school02:40
poningruSecreth`X: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/wolf/02:40
poningruhave you looked through that?02:40
Shadowpillarit was the only way I could watch dvd's and obscure formats in totem02:40
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NgShadowpillar: you should be able to install xine-ui after ubuntu-desktop, if you have the universe repository enabled02:41
Shadowpillaryep02:41
vvlawis that can't install the win32codecs under amd64?02:41
Secreth`Xponingru, it doesnt give any error02:41
MarcNDigitalLF: google is your friend.  you need syslogd-ng for one of the systems.  I read the article last night and misplaced the magazine.02:41
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Secreth`Xponingru, it starts, gives a black screen for some seconds and then crashes02:41
NgDigitalLF: read the link I sent you, or read man syslog.conf02:41
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NgDigitalLF: or, better yet, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/2402:42
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vvlawwho can use totem to play rmvb files?02:43
poningruSecreth`X: hmm02:43
poningruvvlaw: you need realplayer for that02:43
Secreth`Xponingru, its really weird :S02:43
poningruindeed02:43
poningruhave you tried running it in a terminal?02:43
poningrusee what error msges you get?02:44
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DigitalLFNg, man syslog.conf dident give me anything but i will sure read the article02:44
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Secreth`XI do run it in terminal02:44
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Secreth`Xwait02:44
vvlawponingrui installed it on yesterday, but it did not work02:44
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NgDigitalLF: that debian-administration one specifically covers syslog-ng and exactly the situation you are talking about, I believe02:44
NgDigitalLF: I was wrong earlier about not being able to do it, I was thinking of the default syslogd, sorry02:45
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Secreth`Xponingru, this is the only error: Received signal 11, exiting...02:45
poningruvvlaw: where did you install it from?02:45
poningruwtf02:46
poningruthats to terminate iirc02:46
LazyAngelHi! I would like to syncronize my nokia 6230 with my calendar. Either Evolution or Sunbird. Does anyone know if that is possible?02:46
Secreth`X:S02:46
Secreth`Xit gives me that02:46
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vvlawponingru,i down it from realplayer.com02:46
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damgwhat package do i need for WMV support?02:47
ookamifinally back online.....02:47
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damg(vlc/totem/mplayer/whatever)02:47
poningrudamg: w32config02:47
poningruerr02:47
poningruw32codec02:47
vickshow do i get my d-link dwl-g122 (rt2500 chipset) to work in breezy?02:47
ookami<-- was known as DPUPP. Im in need of some help configuring WPA in ubuntu but i got disconnected while receiving help.02:48
vicksaccording to the wiki rt2500 is supposed to work out of the box02:48
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damgthx02:48
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DigitalLFNg that article sure did i will go offline to reconnect the firewall and try it out thank you for all the help and i have been on google the 3h before comming here for help02:48
DigitalLFNg, no problem =)02:48
vvlawponingru,totem can play the rmvb files02:49
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damgponingru, w32codec not found02:49
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vvlawbut it need w32codec02:49
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DigitalLFthank you all for a good channel =)02:49
naliothubotu: tell damg about w32codecs02:49
Secreth`Xubotu, tell damg about w32codecs02:49
Secreth`Xoops02:49
keirondoesn't thunderbird get installed as default in 5.10?02:49
naliothdamg: read your privv msg02:49
vvlawdamg, are you under the amd64 ?02:49
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naliothkeiron: iirc, it does02:49
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El_Chekeiron: no, default is evolution02:49
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damgno, x86 and w32codecs is only referenced/not available :/02:50
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decafmarillat's w32codecs (for debian) has no dependencies. works for me02:51
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damgok, ill check packages.debian.org02:51
naliothdamg: ubotu told you where to get them02:51
naliothdamg: look to your priv msgs02:51
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damgah, ^^ thank you02:51
naliothdecaf: we have ubuntu packaged w32codecs02:52
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decafnalioth: where?02:52
brenneris there any way to customise the bootup screen (breezy)?02:52
peterdautryi have a weird issue with evolution, can someone tell me how to delete the files in the trash ?02:52
naliothubotu: tell decaf about w32codecs02:52
brenneri.e. before gdm loads02:52
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peterdautrychecked some threads on the forums on this one, seems to be a bug ??02:52
Secreth`XAre there some programs to make the layout more fancy? Like sidebars, digital clocks, background things, etc?02:52
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ookamiwould someone type "ookami" for me... just want to make sure highlighting is working02:53
Secreth`Xookami02:53
vvlawwho are using totem?02:53
ookamiok good. thanks.02:53
Secreth`XWelcome.02:53
Secreth`Xvvlaw, I do.02:53
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brennerpeterdautry: heh, weird...i can't delete mine either02:54
Secreth`XI dont use Evolution.02:54
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ookamiok, who would be willing to help this newbie set up wpa on ubuntu? -last time i ended up disconnected. :( sorry.02:54
vv_anybody using totem?02:54
decafnalioth: I want to rebuild some marillat packages for ubuntu. can you host them?02:54
Secreth`Xvv_, I do.02:54
vv_Secreth`X,under amd64?02:55
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brennerpeterdautry: try in preferences, mail preferences section, changing the delete trash drop list02:55
Secreth`Xvv_, No.02:55
brenneror 'empty trash folders on exit' list rather02:55
El_Cheookami: if using madwifi and wpa, make sure to use the package from dapper (breezy has a bug)02:55
vv_Secreth`X,o ...can you play rmvb files from totem?02:55
Secreth`Xvv_, you need realplayer for that.02:56
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ookamiEl_che,  the only thing i have accomplished so far is to get the wpa_supplement.02:56
vv_but i knew that totem can play rmvb already02:56
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El_Cheookami: wpa_supplicant02:56
brennerpeterdautry: that works...it seems like they don't let you "delete" them manually, rather, they sort of use a garbage collecter02:56
El_Che:)02:56
vv_Secreth`X,you installed realplayer?02:56
Secreth`Xvv_, yes02:56
ookamiEl_che yeah that :)02:57
brennerimo, they should have provided both02:57
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=== Shadowpillar installed a w32codecs package a while back and just use them with totem-xine to play rm files
vv_Secreth`X,i installed it on yesterday, but i can't open it02:57
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ookamiis there a document wrtting about step-by step wpa?02:57
Secreth`Xubotu, tell vv_ about realplayer02:57
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Secreth`Xvv_, check your msgs.02:58
peterdautryok brenner, let me check out02:58
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theine!realplayer02:59
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:59
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Secreth`Xponingru, found something?03:00
decafis there a way to make gtk1.x apps look like gtk2.x? at least similar03:00
poningruSecreth`X: nah dude no clue03:00
poningrusorry03:00
vv_Secreth`X,realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb is not for the amd6403:01
Secreth`Xneed a screenshot?03:01
poningrusure03:01
peterdautrythanks brenner, it automaticaly deletes now when i quit evolution03:01
Secreth`Xponingru, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i436303:01
Secreth`Xvv_, sorry. I forgot.03:01
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brennerpeterdautry: np03:02
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ekimusdecaf: i bet there is (fedora even makes kde look like gtk apps), but i have no idea how (maybe some fedora howtos on that topic are available)03:02
Secreth`Xbut Shadowpillar says that you can play .rm with totem, if you installed w32codecs.03:02
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Shadowpillarand xine03:02
poningruSecreth`X: that makes nos sense dude, sorry I have no clue03:03
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poningrutry posting it on the forums03:03
poningrubrb03:03
Secreth`Xheh03:03
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Answer Does anyone have a vnc server recommendation please?03:03
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vv_Secreth`X , you said i need to install w32codecs,but how can i do that?03:04
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ekimusAnswer: tightvnc03:04
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decafekimus: that theme called "bluecurve" I just remembered. thenks03:04
vv_is that amd64 system can't not install the w32codecs?03:04
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LazyAngelvv_: yes, but not wmv03:05
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Ophiocusw32codecs are restricted format, check it out in the starters guide ->multimedia03:05
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cusco!w32codecs03:05
ubotuhmm... w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/03:05
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Secreth`X!restrictedformats03:07
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'03:07
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vv_LazyAngel,i can't install the win32codecs :(03:07
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vv_LazyAngel,how i can do that?03:07
naliothSeveas: we got trouble03:07
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LazyAngelvv_: i found a howto once. i'll see if i can find it again03:08
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vv_Secreth`X,if i need down this :http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/breezy-extras/w32codecs_20050412.orig.tar.gz ?03:09
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sarekhi03:09
vv_LazyAngel,thanks for your help03:09
xet7Hi, I'm trying to remove temp files made by aegis, 17800 files, and rm -rf aegis* says "argument list too long", what to do?03:09
theinevv_, you need to get the .deb file03:10
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Seveasxet7, ls aegis* | xargs -n100 rm03:10
naliothubotu: tell vv_ about w32codecs03:10
HabbieSeveas, ls will complain just the same :)03:10
SeveasHabbie, hmm03:11
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ProN00bwhats aegis ?03:11
HabbieSeveas, in fact it's not rm or ls complaining03:11
vv_theine vv_, that deb files not support amd6403:11
kode4uhi, which ftpd is better running on ubuntu?03:11
morphixYour system does not provide a working zlib compression library.03:12
morphixhmm03:12
morphixwhat do i need to install to get that?03:12
naliothvv_: you are out of luck, unless you want to run your a/v stuff in a 32bit chroot03:12
naliothmorphix: search synaptic for zlib03:12
xet7ls | grep aegis | xargs -n100 rm -rf03:12
xet7                  <--- this works, thanks :)03:12
Habbieindeed :)03:12
morphixnalioth: how?03:12
naliothubotu: tell morphix about synaptic03:13
morphixbtw i am in terminal only.03:13
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klaaner-libbyHi :-) I have a question to KUbuntu's KDM. Every change I make to KDM with the control center is stored in /etc/kde3/kdm/... as I would expect it. But it seems like another login manager is started because nothing changes, no matter what I change in the config. How can I get the "normal" KDM?03:13
naliothmorphix: then "apt-cache search zlib"03:13
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morphixok thanks.03:13
naliothubotu: tell morphix about apt-get03:13
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LazyAngelvv_: sorry. i can't find it, but it is somewhere on ubuntuforums.org03:14
morphixi know about apt-get .. except the searching side of it. lol03:14
LazyAngelvv_: either a link from a post, or a howto there...03:14
sarekis there a way to have thunderbird and firefox show up in English although I have german gnome-desktop language and german language support installed? If I manually deinstall mozilla-firefox-locale-de-de the package language-support wil be deinstalled as well - which I want to keep if possible03:14
sarekso I only wanna change the language for certain apps03:14
Secreth`XImma gonna leave for a while. Tired.03:14
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naliothSecreth`X: go have a beer03:15
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Secreth`X\Awayhehe, I will :)03:15
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hussam I'm getting a LCD screen today. do I boot to recovery mode and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?03:16
hussamwhat about Modeline in xorg.conf. how will it rewrite that line?03:16
Lathiathussam: pass -phigh before the xserver bit03:16
Lathiathussam: you customimzed it?03:16
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Lathiatmodeline is monitor specific anyway03:16
Lathiatso poabbly doesnt apply to your new one03:16
hussamno modeline setting needs to be reset?03:17
emgeeIs there an app or script to randomly change the desktop wallpaper? :)03:17
vv_LazyAngel,anyway...thanks for your help03:17
hussamLathiat: so I do dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ?03:19
vv_is that amd64 can install this cd? PC (Intel x86) install CD?03:19
ShadowpillarSUCCESS03:19
ShadowpillarMWAHAHAA03:19
Shadowpillarfirefox works03:19
Habbievv_, the Intel x86 CD works on amd64; the amd64 CD doesn't work on 32bits CPUs :)03:19
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Shadowpillarturned out to be a huge issue with a python package03:19
Shadowpillarconflict03:19
NgShadowpillar: cool :)03:20
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NgShadowpillar: I mean, cool that it works and stuff now :)03:20
vvlawHabbie, so i can't download http://releases.ubuntu.com/breezy/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso for install it?03:20
Habbievvlaw, yes, you can. on an amd64 machine, -both- CDs work03:21
Lathiathussam: yes03:21
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vv_Habbie,what cpu you are using?03:22
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Habbievv_, I have several machines03:22
vv_Habbie,and what's your os now03:22
Habbievv_, it varies :03:22
Habbiemy workstations run freebsd03:22
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vv_Habbie, do you usd the ubuntu system?03:22
Habbievv_, yes, on a few servers; my gf runs it on her workstation03:23
gardinhi, i have been looking for a dist for a long time, and haven't really found anyone suitable, i would like a clean and fast dist where i have control over the system, cause i think redhat / suse contains too much un needed stuff and boots too slow, do you think i should use ubuntu? thanks!03:23
Answerekimus, when I try tightvncserver, it complains about fonts not found03:24
gardini've tried crux too, i get control, but i want something with X and gnome / KDE all set up...03:24
vv_Habbie,your girlfriend? cool03:24
cyphasehmm03:24
cyphasemy light just flickered03:24
cyphaseand so did the streetlight across the street03:25
vv_in my nearly friends, nobody use linux system...03:25
gardincome on! please :D03:25
naliothgardin: try it, it's as unique as you want it to be03:25
hussamLathiat: the -phigh will take care of reconfiguring the Modeline, correct?03:25
ShadowpillarI also removed OO.O03:25
Shadowpillarwhich HELPED03:25
ShadowpillarOO was the wrench in the works03:25
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theinehussam, chances are you won't even need a modeline for your LCD screen03:26
keironvv_: i didn't know anyone that used linux until i started my first proper job03:26
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vv_keiron, so and you? which os are you using? :D03:27
crightoni cant seem to get the hoary-backports repository working no matter which mirror i use .. ive tried all combination given at this page http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php, weirdly hoary-extras works fine at all four of the given urls03:27
naliothcrighton: there are no backports03:28
naliothwoops, n/m03:28
naliothcrighton: the repos are kinda wonky atm for hoary stuff03:28
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keironvv_: ubuntu linux ;) i converted from windows only last week03:28
AnswerWhen I try to run tightvncserver, it says "Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'"  I can't find this in /etc/vnc.conf to remove it03:28
keironalthough i dual boot with windows so i can play games03:29
crightonnalioth, ok thanks03:29
gardinok, but i had kubuntu already on a cd, so i'll try it first, but KDE uses to be kind of slow, so maybe i'll get ubuntu, since it's going to run on a 400Mhz...03:31
naliothubotu: tell gardin about xubuntu03:31
gardinomg03:31
naliothgardin: you can install from your kubuntu cd and then install ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop03:31
gardinaha, so i'll get gnome or both?03:31
naliothgardin: you can run any DE you wish03:32
Shadowpillarwhat's the diff between those two btw?03:32
Shadowpillarxubuntu and ubuntu?03:32
gardinsounds nice, but isn't _ubuntu based on debian? i dont like debian :D03:32
naliothubuntu uses gnome and xubuntu uses xfce403:32
naliothgardin: then goodbye03:32
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naliothgardin: ubuntu is based on debian SOURCE03:33
naliothgardin: we dont think like debian or are set up like debian03:33
naliothgardin: join #debian and see03:33
vv_vv@weiwei:~/soft$ sudo realplay03:33
vv_sudo: realplay: command not found03:33
vv_vv@weiwei:~/soft$03:33
naliothvv_: please dont paste in here03:33
naliothvv_: did you read the /topic when you arrived?03:33
hussamtheine: how does X actually know what vertical and horiz frequency work with each resolution?03:33
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gardinhehe, yea, but debian uses old kernels, does ubuntu do that too?03:34
naliothhussam: do LCD displays even have sync rates?03:34
agro1986help: What to install to play .it files? (a music file)03:34
hussamnalioth: I think so. The Dell ones we have at the university do.03:35
naliothhussam: i think just running the xserver reconfig will do alright03:35
hussamnalioth: ok cool03:35
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keironis there a recommended php editor for gnome? will kate work in gnome?03:36
naliothkeiron: gedit is the equivalent to kate03:37
naliothkeiron: bluefish is a little more specialized, tho03:37
gardinwhat kernel uses ubuntu?03:37
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meuserj|workgardin: 2.6.1203:38
naliothgardin: 2.6.12 in breezy03:38
agro1986keiron: kate will work, however you kde libs will be installed. I think a "sudo apt-get install kate" will do03:39
agro1986(correction) keiron: kate will work, however kde libs will be installed. I think a "sudo apt-get install kate" will do03:40
keironhmm03:40
keironill try gedit first03:40
keironthanks03:40
gardinooh, 2.6 :D03:40
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hussamnalioth: I hope my LCD screen gets delivered today. Otherwise I'd have to wait till Monday.03:42
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vv_vv@weiwei:~/soft$ fglrxinfo03:42
vv_Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".03:42
vv_display: :0.0  screen: 003:42
vv_OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org03:42
vv_OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect03:42
vv_OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)03:42
dpuppok, ive been trying to understand how to get wpa working to secure my wifi, but im having some problems understanding how to get it done properly. all the information i receive seems to be fragmentes... always something missing. could someone guide me through the process step by step?03:42
vv_it it mean that i did not installed the ATI drivers?03:42
dpupplast time i was being helped, i ended up disconnected unfortunatly.03:43
brennervv_: possibly03:43
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brennervv_: you follow the wiki?03:43
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gardinanyone that knows what the hardware requirements would be for gnome or KDE? is a 400Mhz / 192MB RAM able to run it smooth? cause, i tried KDE on other machines with really bad results :P03:44
naliothgardin: try all of the DEs available03:45
Kamping_Kaisergardin: it would run 'ok'03:45
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gardinyeah, but i want someone that is, complete or something, i think xfce is too limited, but i haven't tested it so much...03:46
Kamping_Kaisergardin: i know ubuntu Hoary runs (slowly) on a p233+96m RAM03:46
Shadowpillarthrow blackbox on that system03:47
Shadowpillaror xfce403:47
gardinok, then i hope that this computer is enough faster :D03:47
Shadowpillarvoila03:47
Shadowpillarprob solved03:47
Shadowpillargnome should not be used with anything that has less than 256MB of ram03:47
Shadowpillaror less than 350 mhz03:47
gardinnah, i don't want xfce :P, i haven't tried blackbox...03:47
naliothgardin: you can also use enlightenment03:48
gardinyeah, maybe...03:48
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vvlawLinux x86_6403:49
vvlaw        * RADEON 8500 Series and higher03:49
vvlaw        * FireGL Series03:49
naliothvvlaw: why are you pasting?03:49
gardinbut when i tried xfce, i ended up with xfce and the settings window and a console, i like the console, but i want to have some kind of programs menu, or did i config it wrong?03:49
vvlawi'm Radeon x550, so what i need down ?03:49
naliothgardin: xubuntu-desktop gets you a full featured desktop, not just xfce403:50
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gardinvvlaw: RADEON 8500...03:50
brennerati and 64bit?  didn't people have probs with that combo?03:51
gardinyeah, ok, because i installed xfce4 on redhat a long time ago, and got nothing than xfce it self :P03:51
vvlawgardin,x550 higher than 8500?03:51
Shadowpillarnalioth: is that was xubuntu is?03:51
gardinyes, X=10 or something03:51
Shadowpillarxfce4?03:51
vvlawbrenner,yes ...i'm ati and 64bit03:51
naliothubotu: tell Shadowpillar about xubuntu03:51
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gardinor, however, it's a later version03:51
dortocan i just remove the usb devices from ubuntu system or should i run some cmd before that(unmount sth)?03:51
vvlawgardin,thanks03:51
Shadowpillargotcha03:51
DeterministNX is so wonderful :D03:51
gardinnp03:51
Shadowpillarcould have just said "yes"03:51
Deterministbeats RDP/VNC by any possible standard03:52
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naliothShadowpillar: now you can look at all it contains03:52
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ShadowpillarI got a good idea03:52
gardinthe kubuntu installer crashed03:53
gardin:P03:53
vvlawATI Driver Installer or X-Windows Version?03:53
wickedpuppydorto, umount /media/usbdisk03:53
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wickedpuppyot right click on the icon on the desktop and click eject03:54
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dortowickedpuppy:  its not a disk; its my webcam.03:54
gardinvvlaw: try ATI03:54
Joe05Hiya guys. I recently re-installed kubuntu due to a hard disk failure and because im using an old monitor. When I open windows they go off the screen (e.g. I cant see the bottom half of the box). I fixed this once before but cant remember how I did it. Any ideas?03:54
gardinvvlaw: maybe it's easier, but if it doesn't work, you can try the other one :D03:55
dpupphow do i find out what driver mywifi card is using in ubuntu... i think i need this info for wpa....03:55
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vvlawgardin,thanks :D03:55
dpuppthis is starting to get frustrating. :(03:55
vvlawis it this one? ati-driver-installer-8.18.8-x86_64.run?03:55
wickedpuppydorto, then just unplug it ? ... i thought you wanna know how to unmount03:56
Deterministis there some way to remove certain components of the openoffice suite? i've no need for some of the stuff that comes with it ;/03:56
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dortowickedpuppy: so i can just unplug it if its a webcam? ok03:56
Deterministcant remove stuff because a bunch of things depend on it03:56
brennervvlaw: try using the driver in the repo, using the wiki instructions03:57
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Joe05Any idea peeps?03:57
brennerbefore going that route03:57
naliothDeterminist: just remove what you want. remember to put "ubuntu-desktop" back b4 you upgrade to dapper03:57
dortohow to install just the samba client? such that i can access the shared folders of windows present on other systems from ubuntu03:57
gardinvvlaw: sounds good, if you have a 64bit processor...03:57
brennervvlaw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI03:57
gsneddersanybody got any suggestions for a computer to run ubuntu? preferably under 10003:57
wickedpuppy!javadebs03:58
NgDeterminist: do you really need to remove it?03:58
ubotuSun Java debs packaged for Ubuntu. Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy))03:58
Deterministnalioth, cant mate, the dependencies are all messed up. cant remove most of it without removing the other parts that i want03:58
naliothDeterminist: then i guess you're stuck where you are03:58
DeterministNg, why have something installed that i never use? this isnt windows last i checked, i should have a choice here.03:58
dpupphow do i restart a wifi card\/03:58
Ophiocusif a bounch of things depend on something, my guess is that you better leave it there03:58
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Ophiocusnot like its ruining your disk space anyway03:59
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NgDeterminist: you do have a choice, but as you have already noticed, removing it will remove other things. Ubuntu package things in such a way as to provide an integrated desktop - if you want ultimate choice/control you will have to fight with something like gentoo03:59
Ophiocusremember, choice comes with know how03:59
gardindpupp: rmmod? or what it is called? and then modprobe03:59
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DeterministNg, no go mate, tried gentoo, that system has too much "dick around with stuff" overhead :)03:59
NgDeterminist: indeed04:00
NgDeterminist: so, your best option is to just ignore openoffice being installed ;)04:00
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DeterministNg, i suppose :)04:00
Deterministor i could just bitch and whine to the guys at oo.org and make them hate me enough to want to change that :P04:00
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Determinist603 users... woah04:01
Joe05Hiya guys. I recently re-installed kubuntu due to a hard disk failure and because im using an old monitor. When I open windows they go off the screen (e.g. I cant see the bottom half of the box). I fixed this once before but cant remember how I did it. Any ideas?04:01
Deterministthis OS got popular eh?04:01
gsneddersanybody got any suggestions for a computer to run ubuntu? preferably under 10004:01
Joe05want a screenshot?04:01
NgDeterminist: sending a patch would be more likely to work ;) I do accept the point that ubuntu does sort of "force" you to have certain things installed, but it really is easier that way :)04:02
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naliothJoe05: we know what you have, but nobody knows the answer atm04:02
NiomiDeterminist: is it any wonder why it's popular? :)04:02
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Deterministgsnedders, any used PIII/duron with 256+ ram and a 32MB gfx card, 10 gig HD. just scrap stuff from friends and ebay and voila04:02
DeterministNg, yes, you're right, i guess04:02
DeterministNiomi, just handed 20 shipit CDs to a load of friends at work who've seen my machine when i used NX at work to connect home, they're all going to dick around with it today :d04:03
Determinist:D04:03
dpuppthe instructions im following calls for adding a line as: ctrl_interface=/vat/run/wpa_supplicannt ... however that line is already in the conf file... should i add it again?04:03
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whyameyewhere do I find the .conf file for wireless WEP?04:04
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gardinby the way, to boot a USB-memory, can you use lilo like a harddisk with a mbr? or do you have to use isolinux or something??04:04
gsnedderswould ubuntu run on a P1 120mhz?04:04
Habbiegsnedders, yes04:04
gsnedderswith GUI?04:04
naliothgsnedders: with a light weight window manager, yes04:04
Dr_Willisgsnedders,  yes -  but the install may take some time.04:04
gardingsnedders: yes, but don't use gnome, kde or something04:04
Ngit'd be slow04:04
gsneddersschweet04:04
Habbiegsnedders, with gnome, not happily; although memory is more of an issue04:04
Nggsnedders: if you do go with a slow CPU, try and get as much RAM as you can04:04
NiomiDeterminist: That is really awesome. I'm considering switching my mother to Ubuntu, she's less familar with windows than my father, so I'm hoping it will go well.04:04
Dr_WillisI ran it on a P1   - 100mhz laptop.04:05
gsneddersjust realised i had a P1 upstairs :)04:05
Nggsnedders: at that end of the performance scale RAM tends to make more difference than anything else in my experience04:05
HabbieNg, hard cold fact, that :)04:05
penguinzdrhey guys i have a problem with nvidia drivers. i've installed them via synaptic, edited xorg.conf properly and restrt x. only the splash screen of nvidia is showing and nothing happens. i have to reset the comp to work and edit xorg.conf in recovery04:05
gsnedderswould it probably be PC2100 RAM?04:05
NgHabbie: hehe, I'm trying not to overstate my case, but yes ;)04:05
penguinzdrwhat should i do?04:05
HabbieNg, :)04:05
DeterministNiomi, it should if you spend about 2 hours configuring stuff for her :) the problem remains for me that the guys here that are familiar with the english language are those who can deal with ubuntu anyways and those who arent just cant.04:05
marlunI put the computerin hibernate, when I tried to start it again, it started up, then closed down and restarted again, and now when I click on Firefox it tells me to choose another profile because the default one is in use, what have happend?04:05
gardingsnedders: on your 120Mhz? no, SDRAM PC100?04:06
trappistpenguinzdr: ctrl-alt-f3 (for example) doesn't take you to a shell?04:06
Nggsnedders: I very much doubt it, it'll be old SIMMs if it's a P104:06
DeterministNiomi, so basically, teaching my mother how to use ubuntu would be teaching her english.04:06
gardinyeah, SIMM, PC66 or PC100?04:06
gsneddersI've never opened it up, i haven't a clue what's inside it :)04:06
penguinzdrtrappist: i've tried only with f1, i dont know about f3. f1 takes me to a console in gnome04:06
gsneddersbrb04:07
Dr_Willismarlun,  close all firefox windows and in the shell use 'killall firefox-bin'   I think to make it clean itself up.04:07
NiomiDeterminist: Can't you change the language Ubuntu uses.. somewhere? I'm not too familiar with it but I think I ran into that setting while dicking around..04:07
clb_is xorg 7.0 installable in ubuntu through repositories?04:07
Dr_Willismarlun,  it may be somthing other then firefox-bin. Been a while since ive had to do that trick04:07
Ngclb_: no04:07
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marlunDr_Willis, okey, should I not use the hibernate function, I rememver I also choosed "save current setup" in the dialog before putting it into hibernate04:08
NgDr_Willis: it may be a stale "lock" file in his profile too04:08
DeterministNiomi, it's not perfect, had alot of work put into it by afew local guys, but still, it's far from perfect.04:08
Dr_WillisNg,  yea - firefox seems to be annoying in that respect. :(04:08
marlunNg, stale "lock" file?04:08
AnswerHow do I launch the Theme preferences from the command line?04:08
dpuppanyone familiar with wpa? i need someone to guide me through the process of securing my wlan with wpa...04:08
clb_what about linux kernel 2.6.14.2?04:08
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penguinzdrtrappist: now i've tried. it takes me to a console04:09
Ngmarlun: when firefox runs it makes a file in your profile called "lock" - so that it can be sure it doesn't launch two copies at a time, but it is possible for it to crash or be killed in such a way that the file remains and so any further attempts to start ff fail04:09
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gsneddersok, for my P1 120mhz, there's a max of 128MB ram04:09
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gsnedderswould thhat be enough?04:09
penguinzdrmto a shell i mean04:09
Nggsnedders: barely ;)04:09
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marlunok, so in my home folder theres a file called lock then? if thats the case?04:10
nickrudAnswer, gnome-theme-managert04:10
Dr_Willisgsnedders,  I ran with less.. slowly04:10
whyameyewhere is the file that sets WEP and SSID for wireless?04:10
nickrud*manager04:10
marlunI tried the killall firefox-bin thing and got this: firefox-bin: no process killed04:10
NiomiDeterminist: it's a shame that Ubuntu has limited support for foreign languages. Which language is it?04:10
Ngmarlun: not just in your home folder, it'll be in $HOME/.firefox/your_profile_name_here/04:10
gsneddersi've got a feeling this is gonna be fun..,. trying to get a P1 to run as fast as humanly possible :)04:10
Dr_Willismarlun,  try 'ps ax | grep fox' see what processes are there.04:10
naliothnickrud: i see the roosters are loud around your place04:10
Dr_Willisgsnedders,  become a console comando!04:10
gsneddersDr_Willis: i need a GUI unforchanatly :(04:11
Answernickrud, thanks gnome-theme-manager04:11
nickrudnalioth, early morning is the only time it's quiet here04:11
Dr_Willisgsnedders,  nay.,,, you 'think' you need one. :P04:11
naliothgsnedders: you'll be fine with a lightweight window mangler04:11
penguinzdrcya soon guys, i have no time to wait04:11
DeterministNiomi, hebrew, it's a tough one for computers since it's written right to left, uses no latin fonts and has a fucked up syntax :)04:11
nickrudah, the days of mc, mutt and lynx ;)04:12
marlunDr_Willis, nothing happend after I wrote that.04:12
gsneddersspend 3 times as much as I'd spend on a RAM for that and get a 2.26GHz Celeron04:12
marlunNg, okey =) I'll see if I can find it, how do I list hidden files?04:12
naliothDeterminist: mind you manners, please, there's ladies present04:12
gsneddersthat's starting to look like a better option :)04:12
Dr_Willismarlun,  well all firefox processes seem to be dead then.    could just try 'ps ax | less' see if ANYTHING seems related to firefox.04:12
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Ngmarlun: run "find $HOME/.mozilla -name lock" in a terminal04:13
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ke_Hey.. I apt-got gawk and gcc, what can I do now? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/436404:13
naliothke_: better to install "build-essential"04:13
Deterministnalioth, sorry04:13
ke_I see :) Thanks04:13
marlunDr_Willis, nah couldn't find anything that looked like it had anything to do with firefox.04:13
Ngmarlun: (where I said .firefox earlier I meant .mozilla, sorry)04:13
Dr_Williske_ depends on what you were trying to do int he first place. :P04:13
marlunNg, ok04:13
Dr_Willismarlun,  "Its Dead Jim!" :P04:13
ke_nalioth, where do I get it?04:14
marlunDr_Willis, what!? =P04:14
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m0biu5are there any good DC++ clients in the repos anywhere04:14
ke_Doh04:14
ke_Forget it :)04:14
ke_Works now04:14
ke_Thx04:14
marlunNg, It seemed to find something yes.04:15
naliothm0biu5: yes there are gui and text dc++ clients04:15
CarinArrdr_willis, scary nickname.. that's the name of my supervisor04:15
CarinArrheh04:15
marlunNg, /home/marlun/.mozilla/firefox/sqcyio83.default/lock was shown under my line.04:15
Dr_Willis:) You're fired for chatting on company time!04:15
Ngmarlun: ok, well if you're sure firefox isn't running, delete that file04:15
CarinArrhah04:15
gardinthe ubuntu installers hangs, i think it's something wrong with my harddisk, since many programs have crashed, like tar, gz and others... what should i do? some kind of low-level formatting?04:16
m0biu5nalioth, do you knw their names?04:16
naliothm0biu5: enabled universe and multiverse repositories and search for them using synaptic04:16
marlunNg, worked like a charm :) Firefox is now up and running! I have to save this till next time this happends, thanks!04:17
Ngmarlun: cool :)04:17
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m0biu5nalioth, i have them enabled - not turning anything up =/04:18
marlunNg, yeah =) learning more every hour. I installed ubuntu yeasterday and are using linux for the first time.04:18
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Dr_Willisgardin,  perhaps a reformat/reinstall.. and a new install cd.. if you have to do a 'true' low level format.. its time to get a new hd. :P04:18
server_newbieI need some help as I am a newbie. I have installed iptables and downloaded gShield. I want to lock down my machine execpt for one port. I am at a loss as what to do next.04:19
naliothm0biu5: search for dc++ and see what turns up04:19
m0biu5nalioth, C++ libs04:19
naliothm0biu5: if you've enabled those repos, there are dc++ proggys in them. perhaps you should update your apt-get04:20
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m0biu5nalioth, i am getting a  signature error for hoary-updates04:20
naliothubotu: tell m0biu5 about gpgerr04:20
dpuppsigh.... i give up on wpa for now.04:21
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linuxgeek2!hi04:21
ubotuhi!04:21
linuxgeek2!resol04:21
ubotulinuxgeek2: I don't know, could you explain it?04:21
dpuppis there ANY means of securing wifi in ubuntu?04:21
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linuksodoes anyone else have problems printing from firefox? I searched the forums, but it didn't solve my problem... The margins are all messed up!04:21
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rubysW: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>04:22
naliothubotu: tell rubys about gpgerr04:22
m0biu5nalioth, i can update now, but still no DC++  - is it in the backports possibly?04:23
dpuppdoes ubuntu support wep?04:23
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brennerm0biu5: package searching needs some work, doesn't it? :-/  imo, they should switch to full word-sensitive, like google, rather than the substring thing it does now04:23
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brennerit's a bitch to find stuff...to much irrelevant crap04:24
m0biu5brenner, i agree =/04:24
nalioth!info dcgui04:24
ubotudcgui: (Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.80-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 1352 kB04:24
dortohow to pair a bluetooth device in ubuntu? bluetooth manager is showing my mobile phone04:24
dortowhere to find documentation for bluez-utils?04:24
Dr_Willisdorto,  I recall editing a file in /etc/ to set my PIN #. and restarting the bluetooth server04:24
Dr_Willisdorto,  check /usr/docs  yet?04:24
clb_if I take /usr/src/linux/.config as base for my new kernel installation (menuconfig), does it have the settings that the clean ubuntu install had?04:24
dpuppare there any known bugs with ubuntu and wep encryption?04:25
dpuppive been kicking my ass for the last 5 hours trying to secure my wifi04:25
gardindpupp: there is a channel about wireless network on freenode...04:25
dortoDr_Willis: k. found some docs in /usr/share/doc04:25
dpupplis/t04:26
Dr_Willisdorto,  yea - there to. :P04:26
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dpuppthanks gardin. ill try there.04:26
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gardinok04:26
ke_Hmm, where can I get glip? Tried apt-getting glip and gtk04:26
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RockClimber hello all. I'm fiddling with tv-out, 855 (i810 driver) in fedora core 4. I have TV-out cloning the LFP, but need some help with the details04:27
RockClimber Any ideas how to change the resolution used in this line (from teh Xorg log) "I810(0): Display Info: TV: attached: TRUE, present: TRUE, size: (800,600)"04:27
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RockClimberI have black border around the TV picture of the flat panel04:27
dortoDr_Willis: the file you mentioned was perhaps /etc/bluetooth/pin04:28
dortoDr_Willis:  thx for the info04:28
Dr_Willisdorto,  seems logical. :P04:28
brennerke_: glip?04:28
Dr_Willisdorto,  it took me some time to get it all working. but it works better under Linux then it does windows for me.04:28
dortoDr_Willis: hahaha04:29
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dortomy device is now paired :)04:29
Dr_Willisdorto,  also - i found the KDE bluetooth tools to work better for my needs04:29
dortooh04:29
dortowould install kubuntu-desktop then04:29
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intelikeyhi, i have a 5.04 issue.   "  sox: Depends: libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not installable04:35
intelikeyE: Broken packages"04:35
dortohow to find what port a usb device is connected to?04:35
RockClimberintelikey, switch to fedora core then04:35
naliothintelikey: build it from source repos04:35
dortoi am told bluetooth devices map to rfcom sth04:35
dortothere is no such file in /dev04:36
intelikeynalioth i installed in from apt-get install one time before which, i would think, would mean that something on this system is messed up.04:37
ke_glib even04:37
clb_is there anyone here who has 2.6.14.2 running?04:37
shedidorto, dmesg might give you info about your usb device04:37
clb_I'm trying to compile it but I get a missing header file from the build04:38
naliothintelikey: i dont know the hx of your box, you can try to have apt-get build it from source for yo04:38
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clb_look at this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/436504:39
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clb_did I do something wrong or is the file really missing.. I downloaded the full source from kernel.org04:41
theineFirefox 1.5 is out04:42
trappistrc2 is out04:42
_jasontheine, only rc2 right?04:42
theinecould be, yes...04:42
theinethe automatic update said 1.504:43
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klaaner-libbyI have set the default LANG from de_DE.UTF8 to de_DE.iso-8859-15. Now everything works fine with X, but I have problems with the console: When I'm asked for a login name German Umlatus still work, but when I'm logged in, they don't. What must I do?04:46
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[dEvIL-bOY] how do add a newsgroup to pan04:50
[dEvIL-bOY] i went to their website04:50
[dEvIL-bOY] but don't have any help documents04:50
[dEvIL-bOY] does anyone use it?04:50
nalioth[dEvIL-bOY] : under tools, > servers04:50
RockClimberRelease Candidates shouldn't have RC in the name or they're not true RCs04:50
HabbieRockClimb, huh?04:51
Level2[dEvIL-bOY] , firstly download group list from your newsgroup server04:51
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Level2and then subscribe, those which interest you04:51
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[dEvIL-bOY] humm04:52
brennercool, pan-users.04:52
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[dEvIL-bOY] doesn't work04:52
[dEvIL-bOY] nothing works04:52
[dEvIL-bOY] ermmm04:52
gearryI am trying to get sleep/suspend working on my laptop, and all acpi related processes seem to hang at startup04:53
Dr_Williswell ya got to enter the info for your newsgroup server. then download their list04:53
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[dEvIL-bOY] is this a correct address04:54
[dEvIL-bOY] news:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com04:54
[dEvIL-bOY] ??04:54
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nalioth[dEvIL-bOY] : it is not04:54
Dr_Willis[dEvIL-bOY] ,  for the pan news group reader.. i would say you are totally confused.04:54
Dr_Willisdoes Ubuntu have its own newsgroup server?04:55
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[dEvIL-bOY] i found that one04:55
[dEvIL-bOY] and i wanted to add04:55
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Dr_Willisthat looks like a 'mailing list' to me.04:55
[dEvIL-bOY] so is the address a website ending in .html?04:55
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Dr_Willis[dEvIL-bOY] ,  nope. a news server is like any other server..  ie: newsgroups.yourisp.com04:56
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marlunI've downloaded a tar.gz file and opened it in fileroller but when I try to extract it to /var/www/ I get a message that I do not have the right permissions to do it, how can I fix that?04:56
dpuppwhat does ipw2200 stand for?04:56
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[dEvIL-bOY] hummm04:56
[dEvIL-bOY] what about posts and all that04:56
hyakuheiHelp! what do I apt-get to get C refrence manuals, for "man scanf" etc04:57
naliothubotu: tell marlun about cli04:57
naliothmarlun: use sudo04:57
[dEvIL-bOY] aren't they considered as news as well?04:57
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foampeacehow might i reconfigure my X04:57
blackhatHow can I install qtparted?04:57
marlunnalioth, thanks04:57
hyakuheiblackhat: apt-get install qtparted04:57
foampeaceI wanna have a high refresh rate without editing text files04:57
blackhatIt doesn't work.04:57
blackhatit cant find it.04:58
Dr_Willisa 'news' server is not the same as a mailing list server. unless thers some sort of crossover setup they can do.04:58
hyakuheihrmm04:58
naliothblackhat: enable universe and multiverse repos04:58
blackhatHow would I do that04:58
blackhatwhats the command =/04:58
davedhas anyone set up vmware host on breezy?04:58
davedafter running the config, bridging fails, and the box becomes unusable...  cant sudo ... resource monitor stops moving.. most other things seem to work04:58
wickedpuppy!repos04:58
uboturepos is, like, How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource04:58
sproingiebah.  when does grumpy get off the ground?04:58
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brennerfoampeace:  well, you _could_ reconfigure the xorg package...04:59
barcayHi all. Im using the i386 Breezy image on a PC using a Celeron D processor, is that ok? I've just noticed a couple of other distro's (Suse, Fedora) stating that Celeron D users should use an x86-64 image. is that the same as the Breezy AMB 64 image?04:59
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sproingiebarcay: no you most certainly do not want a 64 bit distro05:00
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sproingiebarcay: i don't know if celeron even has EMT64, but even if it does, you probably don't want a 64 bit distro unless you have a specific reason05:00
sarekhi05:00
ProN00bwhats wrong with 64bit distros ?05:01
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sproingieProN00b: 32 bit games with no accellerated 3d05:01
Niko__there's 32 bits too much, that's what05:01
Niko__;-[05:01
Dr_WillisProN00b,  nothing.. untill you want to run somthign that dosent work on them.05:01
HabbieProN00b, on an -intel- 64bit machine, you want to run the 32bit distro -unless- you have more than 4 gigs of ram05:01
sarekI am trying to compile a qt application, but after doing qmake -project and qmake, make complains about not finding qapplication.h and so on. Can you help?05:01
ProN00bhumm05:01
ProN00bok05:01
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barcaysproingie: I don't want because its not compatible?05:02
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sproingieHabbie: linux will use PAE for >4gigs on 32 bit.  it's a hack if you're writing apps for it, but most users wont notice05:02
ProN00band 32bit os just runs on 64bit processors like that ?05:02
brennersarek: what app?05:02
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sproingiebarcay: it's compatible enough, but there's a lot of stuff that isn't ported.  some media players.  flash.  games.05:02
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naliothsarek: yoiu need libtq*-dev05:03
tony_hi guys05:03
sproingiebarcay: it'll run 32 bit stuff in a chroot, but it won't use the 64 bit device drivers.  so no accellerated 3d when running 32bit05:03
sarekbrenner: an app for university - but it works on the computers there, so it has to be a setup problem05:03
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sproingiethat said, 3d accellerated 64 bit blender is screamingly fast05:03
sareknalioth: libqt3-dev is installed05:03
ProN00bwhy couldn't they just make linux run 32bins and 64bins without chroot haxxing...05:03
tony_had just install ubuntu and it looks so strange to me05:03
DM|Can0nIs anyone using NForce4 with a 5.1 speaker system in here ?05:03
sproingieProN00b: because apt can't handle multiple architectures on one system05:03
tony_may i know , how to i execute a "exe"05:03
naliothsarek: perhaps you need another variant of libqt*-dev05:03
aeon17xtony_: WINE05:03
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ProN00bsucky, fix apt05:04
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Dr_Willistony_,  what are you even wanting to run thats a .exe ?05:04
sproingieProN00b: it does run 32 bit stuff without a chroot.  the kernel doesn't care, but the distribution does05:04
barcaysproingie: Not concerned about 3D, just want to be getting the most out of my PC.05:04
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tony_no no , i mean i want to run a exeutable file05:04
tony_WINE ? that is ?05:04
sproingiebarcay: you're unlikely to notice the difference05:04
naliothubotu: tell tony_ about wine05:04
Habbiesproingie, the problem with PAE is that it chops 10% off your overall performance05:04
tony_hey thanks a lot05:05
naliothtony_: read your priv msg from ubotu05:05
sproingiebarcay: in fact, the smaller cache on the celerons might suffer with emt6405:05
Habbiesproingie, at that point the choice between 32bits/64bits OS becomes hard :)05:05
barcaybarcay: Really? Ok...05:05
sarekhmmmm what I found put so far is: qmake generates this include inside the g++ call: -I/usr/share/qt3/include but that dir does not exist ... on my installation it's /usr/include/qt305:05
sproingieHabbie: for servers there's no question, 64 bit is the way to go05:05
Dr_Willistony_,  you need to clarify what you are trying to do - i think.05:05
barcaysproingie: Not that I've got a clue what your talking about.05:05
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Habbiesproingie, not always05:05
ProN00bsounds all a bit hackish05:06
Habbiesproingie, on -intel- CPUs, with less than 4 gigs of ram, 32bit is the way to go :)05:06
sorinhello05:06
ProN00bi hope the problems get solved05:06
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sproingieall the other times, i wish i'd gone with 32 bits05:06
bluebloodhmm, the website is down, and the enlightenment channel seems dead, so I ask here... After I installed Enlightenment, how do I change it to my main "shell"?05:06
Habbieon amd64 the choice is clear05:06
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tony_i think you guys get me wrong, i didnt want to install a windows .exe05:06
Habbierun a 64bit distro05:06
sorinI need some help to install the messenger05:06
Habbie-unless- there are compatibility-issues05:06
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naliothsarek: symlinks may help you05:06
tony_i have just downloaded a "xmahjongg-3.6.1.tar.gz" file05:06
ProN00bsproingie, 64bit asm ? wtfz0rz !05:06
sproingieHabbie: eh.  there's no performance difference.05:06
sorinIf U can help me please contact me on privat05:06
Habbiesproingie, there is05:07
Dr_Willisblueblood,  in the past ive had to edit the gdm files to make it add an entry for it. The ubuntu wikis detail this I think.05:07
dpuppwhat is the command to test WPA?05:07
sproingieHabbie: although i do also run xfs.  which is zoom zoom fast on a 64 bit distro.05:07
tony_when i open with archieve manager if gave me quite a number of files ,05:07
naliothblueblood: at the login, click 'sessions' and choose it05:07
Habbiesproingie, on amd64, that is. not on intel cpus :)05:07
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DM|Can0nIs someone using a 5.1 system ?05:07
Habbiesproingie, yes, anything involving large numbers or numbers that can -become- large is faster on 64bits :)05:07
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bluebloodnalioth, oh, ok, will try :)05:07
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naliothblueblood: we'll be here waiting05:07
Dr_Willisblueblood,  theymay have fixed elightment where it now adds its entry to the sessions now. (i'd hope)05:07
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sproingieHabbie: i just remembered that xfs is my main reason for sticking with 64 bit.  more stable than reiser, and boy it's fast05:07
bluebloodnalioth, haha :)05:07
zion115hey guys just installed KDE is there a synaptic package manager in KDE?05:07
Habbiesproingie, there is never a good reason to use reiser05:07
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naliothDr_Willis: they have if you follow the right forum post05:07
Habbiesproingie, and I love xfs; although I have never used xfs -with linux- :)05:08
Dr_Willisnalioth,  :P05:08
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sproingieHabbie: reiser3 is certainly better than ext3 when you're dealing with millions of files (think maildir spools)05:08
sareknalioth: hmmm i can try that although I don't like the idea ... shouldn't a proper link be set when instaling the package?05:08
Habbiesproingie, yes, but; reiser is still a reliable way to lose all your data05:08
Habbiesproingie, including reiser305:08
leggyhi...i want to install ubuntu breezy badger on my laptop. the installtion runs correctly but when i start ubuntu it hangs up while starting hotplug subsystem! does anyone know this problem or/and know how to solve it?05:09
Dr_Willisleggy,  what kind of laptop? cpu/video card?05:09
sproingieHabbie: reiser4 needs a few more years in the oven.  frankly so does reiser3, but it seems to do about as well as ext305:09
sproingieHabbie: i've experienced plenty of data loss with ext305:09
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blankfgl_glxgears right?05:10
=== sproingie would pick jfs wherever data integrity is important. ibm knows a thing or two about storage.
brennertony_: stop right there....you can install apps easily using synaptic05:10
barcaysproingie - AMD Opteron, Athlon 64, AMD Athlon 64 X2, Intel Xeon, Xeon MP, Pentium 4 Extreme Edition, Celeron D. There are the processors Suse recommend you use a 64 bit image with. Is the Breezy i396 architecture different in that it is optimised for the Celeron D?05:11
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brennertony_: instead of manually installing from a source archive, which is what you're meant to do with the source archive you have there05:11
leggycebop hel 700, cpu pentium centrino 1,8 ghz05:11
barcayi38605:11
tony_brenner , i guess synaptic is the word05:11
sproingiebarcay: suse's recommendations are geared toward servers, since that's suse's niche.  it depends on what you want to do with your machine05:11
blankwhat was the thing to make my window drawing faster? Wasn't it backstop or seomthing, in my xorg.conf05:12
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leggygraphic card: intel(R) 915GM/GMS, 910 GML, Express Chipset family05:12
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brennertony_: yep, start up synaptic: system > admin > synaptic, xmahjongg is in the universe repo, so you may need to enable it if you haven't yet05:12
sproingiebarcay: i will say that if you want to do entertainment-type stuff like a/v, you could possibly run into problems.  and if you want 3d accellerated commercial games, you'll be out of luck05:12
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leggyaudio: intel high definition audio05:13
nanaquameI am a new ubuntu user and i am loving it05:13
sproingiebarcay: i run a chroot, but it's a lot like having two linux boxes.  in fact my 32 bit chroot is running dapper while my 64 bit is breezy05:13
juliushello guys, how do i install deb packages?05:13
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phoenix_atlantissproingie: sometime I just wish I wouldn't have xrun's....05:14
slewhi, how do i get the numlock to come on when ubuntu loads?05:14
blankwoo, i sit back with these packs of six bags of this weed that gives me the shit needed to be the meanest..05:14
blankyay i wub ubuntu05:15
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slewblank, send me some of those bags, eh?05:15
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sarekok I got it ... I installed qt3-apps-dev and that installed a lot of dependent files. now it's working05:15
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sproingiei also have gentoo in a chroot, but i hardly use it.  might go back to using it if grumpy doesn't come around, since i like bleeding edge language dev stuff05:15
leggyhi...i want to install ubuntu breezy badger on my laptop. the installtion runs correctly but when i start ubuntu it hangs up while starting hotplug subsystem! does anyone know this problem or/and know how to solve it?05:15
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barcaysproingie: Well I guess I was expecting better performance from breezy.  I've got a 2.5Ghz Celeron with 1GB RAM, Windows ran a lot quicker and I was looking for reasons as to why. Thought the i386 vs 64 Bit may have been the answer. I dont want to do anything more than web browsing and some a/v stuff...05:16
brennernanaquame: brilliant, welcome.05:16
blankmy windows lag when I move them, how do I make them faster, was it backstop on in my xorg.conf or something05:16
sproingiebarcay: i'd give a 64bit livecd a try and compare it side by side with a 32bit one.  you may notice the performance05:17
theinesproingie, your advice is to avoid 64 bit distros in general?05:17
Ophiocusbarcay you may want to try i686 enhance kernel05:17
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sproingiebarcay: if you use a filesystem like xfs, you'll definitely notice the performance05:17
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barcayOphiocus: Whats that then?05:18
nanaquamethankx brenner i have been using windows all my 25yrs on earth and i never knew there was something this good on earth WOW05:18
blankplease, my windows lag when I move them, how do I make them faster, was it backstop on in my xorg.conf or something05:18
sproingietheine: not really, i run 64 bit ... i'm just warning of some of the problems ... definitely not recommended for gamers or for home a/v05:18
sproingietheintern: for servers, 64 bit's the only way to go05:18
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brennernanaquame: lol, yeah, it's a bit of alright isn't it?05:19
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sproingieblank: never heard of backstop... you talking about backing store?05:19
DM|Can0nDoesnt anyone in here uses nforce4 with nforce drivers ?05:20
blanksproingie: that!05:20
sproingieblank: backing store might help, might make it worse if you're really tight on RAM.  try it one way or the other and see05:20
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sproingieblank: if you have a really fancy theme, you might try toning it down.  X is *not* good with space when it comes to storing pixmaps05:21
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zion115Hello05:21
moccahHi05:21
Ophiocusbarcay at instalation time you are asked which you prefer, choose 686 over 38605:22
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=== xota saluda!
brennerOphiocus: we are?05:22
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gleizerHello!05:23
blanksproingie: So what's the command, I'm running gnome, should I turn it on? I cant stand this lag05:24
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gleizerYou can hear me?05:24
Mabus06Nope.05:24
sproingieblank: i dont think there is one ... it's deep in the guts of the config file, and i havent messed with that file in years except to change or fix drivers05:24
Ophiocusi think you need the install to run with the "epert" switch but yeah, you get a choice05:25
naliothgleizer: no. we see you typing, though lol05:25
gleizerhehehe05:25
gleizerthanks05:25
blanksproingie: :(, some guy told me last time, I forgot05:25
Ophiocuswhere "epert" should read as "expert" :P05:25
gleizerI'm brazilian05:25
gleizerSorry for the bad english05:26
nalioth!br05:26
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.05:26
brennerOphiocus: ah, that'd be it then.05:26
naliothgleizer: now you have a choice05:26
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gleizerThanks again.05:27
naliothgleizer: de nada05:27
Ophiocusbrenner in expert mode it ll ask some aditional configuration issues (disk enhancing features and the such) you can safely avoid inputing info you dont know, the install will sense a default when you dont05:27
gleizer??? Do you speak portuguese?05:27
USER012788chi  che vuole chattare con me?sono nuova05:27
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aitibahi05:27
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Ophiocusgleizer, the uboto bot gave you a brazilian lang channel, it only says is in portuguese to be polite05:28
gleizerhi, aitiba05:28
brennerOphiocus: yeah, i've never tried an expert install...ta05:28
gleizerHehehe05:28
gleizerMy first time05:28
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aitibasomeone can help me with RaLink RaLink RT2500 wireless network card, please?05:28
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zion115_hi05:29
zion115_again05:29
TheAttackshi05:29
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zion115_can any1 help me with steam?05:29
aitibaI have the module installed (rt2500) but when I do 'iwlist ra0 scan' dont search anything any ideas?05:30
blankcan I play songs through my ipod on my computer with gtkpod05:30
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barcaycan I get info such as CPU serial number from the command line somehow05:30
barcay?05:30
Ep|phanydoes anyone know why i cant find wine in synaptic05:30
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zion115_any1 know how to adjust reesolution on kde?05:31
Ethanyou need universe repository05:31
EthanI guess05:31
Ep|phanyi have it05:31
Ep|phanystill cant see it05:31
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OphiocusEp|phany,  go to the starter page in ubuntu guide and check "how to i install the universe repository"05:31
naliothubotu: tell Ep|phany about wine05:31
Ep|phanyophiocus i already have universe repiository05:31
!alindeman:*! Hi all. The York LUG (based in York, England) is running an Install Weekend at the University of York this coming Saturday and Sunday; more information is available at http://www.york.lug.org.uk/installday and #ylug05:31
gleizerI have nvidia fx 6200 tc05:31
naliothEp|phany: read what ubotu just sent you05:32
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zion115_Resoultion on KDE if any knows how to plz?05:32
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bastardkestrelcan someone help me with an install problem?05:32
Ophiocusbastardkestrel, first of all please do change your nick05:32
bastardkestrelubuntu does not detect my cdrom on install, is there some boot option that might help?05:32
gleizerMax resolution is 1024x768... can you help me?05:33
naliothzion115_: ask in #kubuntu05:33
gleizerI have nvidia fx 6200 tc05:33
zion115_oh thanx05:33
naliothubotu: tell gleizer about rixres05:33
brennerrixres?05:33
bastardkestrelOphiocus: its not my nick, its my password by mistake05:33
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naliothbrenner: yes, it's instructions for drunks05:33
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Deterministthis joomla CMS thing is fantastic, thing just works :)05:34
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bastardkestrelOphiocus: its the name of an obscure punk band. if it offends you i may change it05:35
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aitibadoes anyone has a RT2500 wireless network card running on breezy?05:35
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brenner!tell gleizer about fixres05:35
naliothaitiba: did you follow the wiki article?05:35
naliothbrenner: beat you to it, bubba05:35
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Ep|phanywhen i type sudo apt-get install libgtk-1.2 libgtk-1.2-common it says package could not be found and i already refreshed05:35
brennernalioth: you beat me to rixres05:35
naliothbrenner: /msg ubotu tell brenner about msg the bot05:36
naliothaitiba: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo05:36
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brennernalioth: sneaky bastard05:36
barcaynalioth: How many cups of coffee have you had today?05:36
brennerbarcay: rix at least05:37
blankAnyone here use gdesklets?05:37
brenneror maybe reven05:37
DJHasisDoes anyone know how can I reset the root-pass cause when I installed breezy on my amd64 it didn't ask any pass for root05:37
naliothbarcay: coffee? i dont drink it05:37
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HabbieDJHasis, use sudo05:37
naliothblank: ask your question, please05:37
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agro1986DJHasis: sudo passwd05:37
barcaynalioth: OK, how many cans of red bull?05:37
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blackhatI love redbull05:37
remihi all05:37
naliothbigkahuna, you've changed your nick05:38
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[dEvIL-bOY] hello05:38
[dEvIL-bOY] convert -resize 640x480 -colors 14 /home/edgar/dragon.png splashimage.xpm && gzip splashimage.xpm05:38
aitibanalioth, I try with this but I cant finish the tutorial05:38
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barcayis that against the rules?05:38
[dEvIL-bOY] when i try to do this it tells me that convert is not a valid command05:38
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[dEvIL-bOY] what's that all about?05:38
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naliothbarcay: i like to know who i'm talking to05:38
agro1986DJHasis: but normally you don't need to log in as root. When you need to do administrative stuffs, just append "sudo" before the command, such as "sudo rm -rf /". That's the ubuntu way (tm)05:38
naliothaitiba: what part do you get to. tell us please05:38
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[dEvIL-bOY] i'm following the instructions from the ubuntu unofficial guide05:39
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nalioth[dEvIL-bOY] : stay away from ubuntuguide05:39
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[dEvIL-bOY] why is that?05:39
[dEvIL-bOY] nalioth, ?05:39
terjehi all, does ubuntu have any built-in virtulization software? A-la zen?05:39
headsrollhello05:40
DJHasisagro1986 I just installed only the base-system cause I can't start x with my pci-express gpu05:40
remihi05:40
naliothubotu: tell [dEvIL-bOY]  about ubuntuguide05:40
Ethaner... I am having problem with fluxbox installation....05:40
headsrollcan someone help me with an install problem?05:40
aitibanalioth, I dont have this structure in the archive of cvs that I download (cd ~/rt2500-cvs-daily/Utilitys)05:40
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DJHasisso it would be nice to know how can I use sudo apt-get update & apt-get-install x05:40
gleizerThanks for the tip ... I try resolve my problem...05:40
headsrollneither ubuntu or kubuntu can detect my cdrom05:40
naliothaitiba: then go browse to it and direct download it05:40
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godmode2klet me know best mp3 player app. as winamp.05:41
[dEvIL-bOY] out of date hey05:41
blankwhat's a good burner for linux05:41
blankcd burner05:41
aitibanalioth, download what?05:41
brennerDJHasis: tried the vesa driver?05:41
blankcd/dvd burner05:41
naliothDJHasis: install "xserver-xorg"05:41
DJHasisbrenner yes05:41
brennerit's pretty much a failsafe05:41
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headsrollis there a boot option that may help cdrom to be detected?05:41
naliothgodmode2k: use xmms, you'll be amazed05:41
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Ethanbrenner,  k3b05:41
godmode2kgg05:42
naliothblank: k3b05:42
Secreth`XHeya folks05:42
brennerEthan: what about it? :)05:42
godmode2kxmms... ^^ just apt-get install xmms ?05:42
naliothaitiba: the cvs files05:42
blankk3b is t3h b3st ?05:42
DJHasisnalioth I can't install anything cause I can only log as a restricted-account what I had to make in the installation-process05:42
naliothgodmode2k: use synaptic, it's more fun05:42
brennergodmode2k: get beep-media-player instead of xmms05:42
Secreth`XIs there some feature in Ubuntu that allows you to see your hardware specs?05:42
aitibanalioth, this http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/rt2400/rt2500-1.1.0-b3.tar.gz05:42
headsrollis this thing on? usually i did not end up a register place05:42
Ethanthere is no best05:42
naliothDJHasis: you are not restricted05:42
blankk3b works with gnome right?05:42
headsroll!ubuntu05:42
ubotuI guess ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards05:42
godmode2knalioth: thanks ^^*05:42
naliothubotu: tell DJHasis about root05:42
naliothaitiba: looks good to me05:42
DJHasisnalioth why can't I use apt-get05:42
blanknalioth: k3b works with gnome right, and it burns CDs and DVDs05:43
naliothDJHasis: does it not work?05:43
naliothblank: correct05:43
aitibanalioth, I download this (wget http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/rt2400/rt2500-1.1.0-b3.tar.gz05:43
aitibatar -xzf rt2500-1.1.0-b3.tar.gz05:43
aitiba) the same of the how to05:43
remiI have installed my wifi card IPN2220 with ndiswrapper, it's recognized, I can scan my wifi network with # iwlist scanning , but I cant change any parameter of the card : nothing happen if I do : #sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid, or If I do # sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc ...... anone knows how to do it work?  (sorry for my bad english i'm french ;)  )05:43
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DJHasisit says the same error that useally it says when using any other account than root05:43
naliothaitiba: and then what?05:43
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naliothDJHasis: use sudo05:43
headsrolli want to install ubuntu on a notebook, but it fails at finding cdrom05:43
Ethansudo or log in as root05:44
DJHasissudo asks pass and if I press enter it says that password is wrong05:44
headsrollother distros work but i dont want to use them05:44
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naliothEthan: ubuntu has no 'root' account05:44
naliothDJHasis: it sounds as if your install stopped in the middle05:44
Ethanbut you can05:44
Ethansu05:44
aitibanalioth, I descompress it05:44
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naliothEthan: it is not the ubuntu way05:45
morphixi so want to blow up zlib05:45
morphixdoes anyone know where i can get it?05:45
blankin windows I can press a certain button on my mouse to go back on firefox, and the other to go forward, is there a way to make that happen in linux/ubuntu?05:45
morphixapt-get cant seem to find05:45
morphix:(05:45
Secreth`XIs there some feature in Ubuntu that allows you to see your hardware specs?05:45
naliothmorphix: in the repos are several implementations of zlib05:45
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Ethansorry but this is mine... I am not used to sudo that is why05:45
remiany1 for my problem?05:45
aitibanalioth, Im installing kernel headers05:45
zion115hi05:45
naliothmorphix: install zlibc05:46
naliothSecreth`X: in a terminal, type "sudo lshw"05:46
zion115Right channel to ask for help with WineCVS?05:46
Ep|phanyi pasted this in my sources.list deb http://wine.sf.net/apt breezy but now when i update i get this error  E: Malformed line 26 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) am i doing something wrong?05:46
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Ethaner ... can't install fluxbox... I got an error : can't replace the file /usr/share/man/man1/bsetroot.1.gzalready used by blackbox05:46
Secreth`Xok thanks nalioth05:46
naliothEp|phany: make sure you pasted no blank spaces (they count as characters)05:46
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ltxxxI'm having to different terminal connections to my machine from two computers. would it be possible to change from one connection to the other and see what's going on there?05:46
headsrollx-chat sucks05:47
naliothheadsroll: use irssi05:47
headsrollat least here on ubuntu05:47
Ep|phanystill haveing the problme05:47
DJHasisnalioth the installation didn't say that anything went wrong and after the installation I took the dvd from my drive and when it booted ubuntu it installed the remaining packages05:47
HabbieEthan, fluxbox and blackbox are related and therefore incompatible within the set of packages you have; I'd uninstall blackbox first05:47
zion115Any1 who can help me with wineCVS?05:47
barcaynalioth: Whats is the land speed record on the african ostrich?05:47
zion115plz05:47
brennerheadsroll: how so?05:47
headsrollit did not ask me to register so i was merrily typing away05:47
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headsrollto no one05:47
naliothzion115: ask your question, insteaad of asking to ask05:47
aitibanalioth, are you reading me?05:47
headsrolli was able to ask ubotu though05:47
remiI have installed my wifi card IPN2220 with ndiswrapper (acer labtop) , it's recognized, I can scan my wifi network with # iwlist scanning , but I cant change any parameter of the card : nothing happen if I do : #sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid, or If I do # sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc ...... anone knows how to do it work?  (sorry for my bad english i'm french ;)  )05:48
zion115HAving problems with wineCVS check out05:48
naliothaitiba: you are installing kernel headers05:48
zion115takes forever never finishes05:48
EthanHabbie, that's a good idea... I wish to be clever.... I though since fluxbox was based on bb I needed bb. I will try05:48
headsrollanybody else got a problem with my user name?05:48
HabbieEthan, hehe :) that's an understandable line of thought05:48
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aitibanalioth, Im installing gcc 3.405:48
headsrollbugger off05:48
Ep|phanyanyone have any ideas why im getting this problme05:48
chiin breezy is hostap included in the kernel or do i need to recompile?05:48
headsrollcan some one help me install, i have no cdrom detected?05:48
morphixthankx nalioth05:49
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nalioth!tell headsroll about smartboot05:49
headsrollits a notebook that halts at detecting cdrom05:49
naliothheadsroll: ubotu just msg'd you05:49
headsrollis there some boot option i could try05:49
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headsrollok05:49
headsrollthanks05:50
ancientAnyone know why i cant see a linux box using vncserver ?05:50
DJHasisdoes anyone know that will hoary work properly on a amd64 pc cause if I try to format my breezy-partition and install Hoary on top of that?05:50
ancienttrying to see a linuxbox, but the winblows system cant find it05:51
Ophiocusancient try samba05:51
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ancientsamba ?05:51
EthanHabbie, seems to work, I will give a try with a log in.05:51
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ancientwhat and why ?05:51
headsrollnalioth: i dont have a floppy05:51
remiI have installed my wifi card IPN2220 with ndiswrapper (acer labtop) , it's recognized, I can scan my wifi network with # iwlist scanning , but I cant change any parameter of the card : nothing happen if I do : #sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid, or If I do # sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc ...... anyone knows how to do it work?  (sorry for my bad english i'm french ;)  )05:51
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aitibanalioth, I cant find qt3-dev qt3-dev-tools05:51
aitiba or libqt3-dev libqt3-dev-tools05:51
aitiba. Are this two programs essential?05:51
tobi-wanancient: how, not see? do you want to access files or do you want to ping it?05:51
Ophiocus!tell ancient about samba05:51
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Ophiocusam stating to get used to the bot05:52
Ophiocus:P05:52
headsrollnalioth: all other distros find the cdrom fine, but i want ubuntu because of its good wireless05:52
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clb_what should I do when grub-install says error loading stage1?05:52
Ep|phanyi have a laptop and when im plugging in my external mouse its not working is there anyway i can fix that05:52
naliothaitiba: you should have those files, they are standard05:52
naliothubotu: tell headsroll about verify05:53
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hamdanhi05:53
tjerkHi05:53
hamdani have 1 Q.05:53
tjerkWhats that?05:53
brennerEp|phany: usb?05:53
tobi-wanEp|phany: take a crack at /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:53
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ancientWhats this mean in samba ?05:54
ancientaccount_policy_get: tdb_fetch_uint32 failed for field 1 (min password length), returning 005:54
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hamdani have wireless router ( linksys ) i try to connect to it but i cant help me05:54
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ancientabout 10 lins like that05:54
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DM|Can0nIs anyone use nforce4 with nforce drivers in here ?05:55
aitibanalioth, I install qt3-dev-tools have I install qt3-dev?05:55
hamdan i have wireless router ( linksys ) i try to connect to it but i cant help me05:55
hamdan i have wireless router ( linksys ) i try to connect to it but i cant help me05:55
EthanHabbie, nice! There is nothing but I can use it. Thanks05:55
Ep|phanyoh sorry i guys i was afk05:55
Ep|phanyno its a regular mouse05:55
HabbieEthan, cool05:55
hamdan i have wireless router ( linksys ) i try to connect to it but i cant help me05:55
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Ophiocushamdan,  STOP repeating dsosent make your question more inportant05:56
naliothaitiba: you need libqt3-dev05:56
tobi-wanEp|phany... does your CorePointer mouse point to /dev/mice or /dev/mouse0?05:56
hamdanok but help me05:56
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headsrollnalioth: do you mean to verify the cd?05:56
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Ep|phanywhat do you mean tobi-wan05:56
blackhatWhere is my GCC-3.4.5 located?05:56
naliothhamdan: if nobody has the answer, nobody will answer you05:56
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clb_why is there /initrd.img and /vmlinuz ... I built a new kernel but do I need to relink these to the new images?05:57
naliothheadsroll: make sure your cd is correct bit for bit05:57
hamdanok bye05:57
headsrollnalioth: do you mean to verify the cd?05:57
naliothblackhat: /usr/bin/05:57
aitibanalioth, I dont have libqt3-dev in my repositorys what can I do?05:57
clb_or is is enough I set the correct grub line?05:57
naliothheadsroll: that is what i mean05:57
headsrollnalioth: its fine . ive used it on 4 computers05:57
blackhatnalioth my 4.0.2 is located there05:57
blackhatI need my 3.4.5 version that my kernel is copiled with05:57
naliothaitiba: if you dont have libqt3-dev in your repos, something is wrong05:57
nalioth!info libqt3-dev05:57
gleizerYahooo... I see hi-res im my Ubuntu!05:57
headsrollnalioth: ive tried 3-4 different ubuntu and kubuntu disks05:57
headsrolli use k3b to burn05:58
naliothholy moly aitiba hold one05:58
Ep|phanytobi-wan i dont understand05:58
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aitiba!info libqt3-dev05:58
tobi-wanEp|phany: open up /var/X11/xorg.conf ... there should be a line describing the mouse... do you think you'll find it?05:58
headsrollnalioth:  any other linux distro i throw at it works, toshiba m4505:58
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blackhatWhere is GCC-3.4.5 located? The one that is used to compile our kernels.05:58
Secreth`XFood!05:58
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tobi-wanEp|phany: it's like "Section "InputDevice" blabla mouse05:58
Ep|phanyhow do i open that threw terminal?05:58
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headsrollnalioth:  i think maybe ill just try debian05:58
aitibanalioth, in whic repository is libqt you know?05:59
brennerless /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:59
tobi-wanEp|phany: whatever you prefer, it's a simple text file, but only root can edit it (hopefully)05:59
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tobi-wanhehe, brenner's right, that's easiest05:59
stereohi, ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't change into real console... any suggestions?05:59
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Ep|phanyit says command not found05:59
headsrollnalioth: the only thing i can think of is using some boot options in the toshiba that might get the cdrom detected05:59
hamdanhow i can connect to the wireless router05:59
hamdan?05:59
Ep|phanyin terminal when i go sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:00
naliothaitiba: libqt3-mt-dev06:00
HabbieEp|phany, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:00
naliothheadsroll: check the integrity of your cdrom06:00
aitibanalioth, I install this libqt3-mt-dev?06:00
naliothheadsroll: you can do it from the installers advanced options06:00
headsrollok06:00
naliothaitiba: that is the libqt3 for breezy06:00
headsrollill try that06:00
hamdan:( very bad support06:00
naliothstereo: use ctrl-alt-f206:00
tobi-wanEp|phany: brenner is correct, at first try to just "less /etc/X11/xorg.conf"06:00
tobi-wanhamdan: think for a second06:01
brennerHabbie: he's not in X06:01
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naliothhamdan: we are all volunteers. if you wish to get "good" support, go pay canonical for some06:01
headsrollnalioth: ive got a few cdroms none work, but they work on all other machines06:01
Ep|phanytobi-wan i see the input devices thing06:01
blankI already asked at #cedega, but they're not responding, do any of you know this: when I install point2play, must I log into my transgaming account, it's just that I have no internet access where I'm installing it06:01
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tobi-wanhamdan: you nag around and don't give people a break.... do you really expect to get help?06:01
stereonalioth: ;) thanks... no.. i can't change out of X06:01
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remiI have installed my wifi card IPN2220 with ndiswrapper (acer labtop) , it's recognized, I can scan my wifi network with # iwlist scanning , but I cant change any parameter of the card : nothing happen if I do : #sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid, or If I do # sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc ...... anyone knows how to do it work?  (sorry for my bad english i'm french ;)  )06:01
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GermanHello!!06:01
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tobi-wanEp|phany: fine! does it say "/dev/mice" or "/dev/mouse0" ?06:01
Germanhave a quiestion06:01
aitibanalioth, I install libqt3-mt-dev and qt3-dev-tools good with those?06:01
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naliothaitiba: whatever the wiki says06:02
blackhatWhere is the kernel located on the ubuntu system06:02
Germancan anyone help me pleas??06:02
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Ep|phanyit says this06:02
Ep|phany/dev/input/mice06:02
tobi-wanGerman: if you ask the question, may be....06:02
EthanGerman, ask06:02
gearryI figured out that my acpi functions (well, at least sleep) are working, but they do not appear on my menu06:02
tobi-wanEp|phany: well.....06:02
Ep|phanyshould i change it to mouse0?06:02
Germanhaha06:02
tobi-wanEp|phany: no, that's correct. what protocol is given?06:02
Germanok06:02
ancientAnyone abmy to help in a sh shell set up samba06:02
gearryanybody know how I make them appear on the menu or logout screen?06:02
Ep|phanyImPS/206:03
blackhatWhere is the KERNEL located on the Ubuntu System, I've checked /usr/src and its not there.06:03
stereonalioth: i loosed this ability during an update to breezy... somewhere in the past. until today i havent figured it out06:03
Ep|phanyi also see the input device touchpad06:03
GermanI wna't t know why my Num Lock isn't on when i start Ubuntu06:03
Habbieblackhat, you can install kernel sources separately06:03
Habbieblackhat, but the kernel itself is in /boot06:03
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tobi-wangearry: there's an applet for it, i guess06:03
blackhatwell when installing vmware it wants me to point the directory of my C header files matching my kernel.06:03
blackhatWhat should I do?>06:03
naliothstereo: and an xterm or gnome-terminal wont do you ?06:04
Ep|phanytobi-wan what should i do06:04
Shadowlinegerman: the easyest way to fix the numlock problem is to install numlock06:04
EthanGerman, mine is off too06:04
tobi-wanEp|phany: what does the Protocol line say? ImPS/2?06:04
naliothblackhat: install the headers06:04
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Ep|phanyyes06:04
blackhatapt-get install kernel-headers ?06:04
tobi-wanhm....06:04
GermanEthan, sure, but I want it on06:04
German:)06:04
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aitibanalioth, this is my problem. In the archive that I download dont exist ./rt2500 directory06:04
ShadowlineGerman: the easyest way to fix the numlock problem is to install numlock06:04
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stereonalioth: yes, they do... but would be nice to have back this little feature..06:04
ShadowlineGerman: apt-get install numlock06:04
GermanShadowline, intall numlock06:04
brennernumlockx rather06:04
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Germannumlockx06:05
brennerand it requires some more fiddlign iirc06:05
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naliothaitiba: have a look in your rt2500 dir for the files the wiki wants you to work with06:05
HoxzerAPUA06:05
DM|Can0nIs anyone use nforce4 with nforce drivers in here ?06:05
Hoxzer:d en ymmrr swebitsin kysymyksi06:05
blackhatMy kernel is 2.6.12-9 the latest header I can find is 2.6.11-906:05
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Shadowlinebrenner: I didn't have to fiddle with anything, I installed it and it worked06:05
naliothHoxzer: english please06:05
Ep|phanytobi-wan what now?06:05
tobi-wanEp|phany: Search the section "serverlayout" and look whether the ImPS/2 mouse is given as InputDevice06:05
HoxzerSIAT06:05
brennerShadowline: ok then, the steps i followed had some additional stuff to do, ah well06:06
blackhatnalioth it doesnt have the headers that match my kernel.06:06
tobi-wanEp|phany: please be patient, i've coding work to do, too ;-)06:06
naliothblackhat: really?06:06
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naliothblackhat: what kernel is that?06:06
Ep|phanyoh sorry tobi-wan06:06
blackhat2.6.12-906:06
blackhatlatest headers I see are 2.6.11-906:06
aitibanalioth, I do with this direcotry /rt2500-1.1.0-b3/Utilitys06:06
aitiba and ok but..06:06
Rawplayerre06:06
Ep|phanytobi-wan it is not given as input device06:06
gearrytobi-wan: I don't see an applet for that.  In my old hoary install it automagically appeard on my logout menu once i enable sleep06:06
tobi-wanEp|phany: no prob, i just wanted you not to wonder, if it takes06:06
naliothblackhat: linux-kernel-headers06:06
tobi-wanlonger06:06
gearryon breezy, no such luck06:06
Ep|phanynp06:06
tobi-wanEp|phany: then add it, can you figure out how to?06:07
Ep|phanyno06:07
blackhatOh, hehe thanks06:07
Ep|phanyi dont know very much about linux06:07
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headsrollnalioth:  no cdrom detected, i guess im out of luck06:07
tobi-wangearry: hmm... sorry, but then i am at a loss06:07
Ep|phanyshould i add where this is InputDevice"Configured Mouse"06:07
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aitibanalioth, ... I dont find this 'Under System -> Administration you will find networking. '06:07
naliothheadsroll: something sounds funny, if other distro cds can use it06:07
tobi-wanEp|phany: ok, look at the identifier given in the section of the mouse. then add InputDevice "<name of the identifier>" in the serversection06:08
dbrouwerany ppc users in here?06:08
tobi-wanEp|phany: serverlayout, sorry06:08
naliothdbrouwer: many of us, ask your question06:08
tobi-wanEp|phany: yeah, you got it right :-)06:08
Ep|phanyk06:08
Ep|phanyso i just put06:08
naliothaitiba: what exactly are you running?06:08
headsrollnalioth: suse, fedora, knoppix, etc all load the cdrom06:08
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Ep|phanyImps/2 where configure mouse is?06:08
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Ep|phany*configured mouse06:08
mokhi all06:08
tgotcrhi06:08
tgotcralguem fala portugues06:09
naliothheadsroll: which leads me to believe the cdrom has been burnt wrong06:09
dbrouweri have a new powerbook 15 inch. because i am very busy and do not have time to install linux (want to install Gentoo) i want to use the ubuntu live cd at times (till i have time to install linux). However, ubuntu fails to detect my dvd-drive, any solutions to this?06:09
tgotcreverybody speaking portuguese?06:09
nalioth!br06:09
B_166-ER-Xhow do i delete a directory in a console ?  rm doesnt work06:09
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.06:09
headsrollnalioth: im thinking maybe to try some options like nopcmcia acpi=off etc06:09
moki'm trying to install cedega 5 on amd64 ubuntu 5.10 .... i can't seem to be able to locate the 32 version of libXxf86vm.so.1 anywhere06:09
tgotcr#ubuntu-br06:09
aitibanalioth, I enter on Utilities directory and the I do ' sudo qmake -o Makefile raconfig2500.pro' console dont say anything good?06:10
headsrollnalioth: ill try another cdrom just in case06:10
naliothaitiba: i'm not looking over your shoulder, friend.06:10
B_166-ER-Xhow do i delete a dir ?06:10
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blackhatnalioth even when its installed I still get an error now...06:10
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aitibanalioth, what do you need?06:10
blackhatEven if the module were to06:10
blackhatcompile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel06:10
aitibainformation06:11
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naliothaitiba: hold on a minute06:11
Ep|phanytobi-wan its stilln ot working06:11
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dduckoB_166-ER-X, rm -r Directory06:11
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Nytryxhello06:11
tobi-wanEp|phany: did you restart the x-server?06:11
dduckoHi06:11
mokhi06:12
Nytryxanyone run xubuntu06:12
B_166-ER-Xthx06:12
naliothaitiba: join #kubuntu-offtopic please06:12
naliothNytryx: just ask your question, please06:12
Nytryxi need help installing the xbutunu-desktop06:12
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aitibanalioth, this how to is for kubuntu no?06:12
Ep|phanyno06:12
naliothNytryx: just use synaptic and install xubuntu-desktop06:12
Ep|phanyhow do i do that06:12
tobi-wanEp|phany: you were correct when you said to add InputDevice "Configured Mouse" in the ServerLayout06:12
Nytryxwhen i runt the sudo apt get06:12
naliothaitiba: it's for you and i to talk quietly06:12
B_166-ER-Xin UTF8 how do i do the 'little wave thing'06:12
Ep|phanyoh that was defualt though06:12
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blackhatI installed the linux-headers, and when I try to install VMWARE it says even though the module were to compiled successfully, it would not load into the running kernel..........06:13
Nytryxhow nalioth06:13
Ep|phanyand it wasnt working like that06:13
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tobi-wanEp|phany: what did you add?06:13
naliothubotu: tell Nytryx about synaptic06:13
Ep|phanyi tried Imps/206:13
mokblackhat, you need to visit vmware forums ... they have a patch over there06:13
Ep|phanystilldidnt work06:13
Germanthank you guys, my numlock is now on!!!06:13
tobi-wanEp|phany: instead of what?06:13
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blackhatI have there patch..06:13
mokblackhat it is related to the .12 kernel .... i think 5.5 beta has the patch included06:13
blackhatmok; how can I tell what kernel I am running, whats the command06:13
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mokuname -a06:13
Ep|phanyconfigured mouse06:13
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tobi-wanEp|phany: you said InputDevice "Configured Mouse" was _not_ in ServerLayout06:14
blackhatk, I found the problem.06:14
blackhatthanks06:14
moknp06:14
moquistlast night I set up a friend's machine using the Debian floppy-based net install, and then I switched the sources.list to breezy, did a dist-upgrade, and installed ubuntu-desktop.  Everything is working fine except that the sudo applications don't ask for his password, they just silently fail.  How can I get all those apps to sudo properly?06:14
Nytryxok i installed it as a server to run the xfce desktop so the package manager is'nt there06:14
tobi-wanEp|phany: so please add it there and do and /etc/init.d/gdm restart , that should work (hopefully)06:14
tobi-wanwith your mouse connected, of course06:14
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mokhonestly, anyone got any experience with dri and amd64?06:14
Ep|phanytobi-wan Configured Mouse was in serverlayout06:14
tobi-wanbtw: if it's a PS/2 mouse, it's possible that the mouse has to be connected at boot-time, ok?06:14
headsrollnalioth: the ubuntu live cd does not work either06:14
tobi-wancould that be the problem?06:15
naliothNytryx: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop06:15
Ep|phanyok06:15
Ep|phanythanks06:15
naliothheadsroll: that is VERY strange06:15
coaxHey... I need to make my mailserver (postfix) to mail as domain:gmail.com, is'nt there a file where i have to set that domain for my user??06:15
Nytryxi do that and it says that it cant find the package06:15
headsrollive got one more kubuntu 5.10 ill try06:15
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Nytryxnalioth?06:16
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Nytryxits says E: could'nt find package06:16
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naliothNytryx: are you running breezy?06:17
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Nytryxhoray06:17
headsrollnalioth: nope, it loads to the point where it detects cdrom and wants to load drivers from floppy06:17
Secreth`XBack!06:17
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blackhathttp://pastebin.com/425661, (help with VMware installation) not too big of a problem.06:17
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naliothheadsroll: you have bad media06:18
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headsrollnalioth: its a toshiba satellite m45,06:18
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Nytryxnalioth any ideas?06:18
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headsrollnalioth:  im going to put debian on it instead06:18
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naliothheadsroll: enjoy06:18
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headsrollnalioth: thanks06:19
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Dreadnoughtsome one tell me how to get the mp3 plugin06:19
olicatwith svn, how do i commit something ifi get file.txt remains ini conflict?06:19
naliothubotu: tell Dreadnought about mp306:19
jaxrsorry for a retarded question, but i installed gtk+ 2.0 examples with synaptic package manager and i cant find them.. where are they?06:19
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Dreadnoughtthanks06:19
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brennerjaxr: list the packages contents06:20
brennerright-clcik > properties > installed files06:20
blankin gnome, how can I find the menu editor06:20
blankthe start menu editor06:20
jaxrahh, great! thanks guys06:20
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brennerstart menu? :)06:20
naliothblank: right click on the menu06:20
gypsymaurohello06:20
naliothbrenner: he means alacarte (formerly known as smeg)06:21
brennerblank: you need smeg, it's installed by default in breezy06:21
blanksmeg?06:21
Nytryxnalioth?06:21
jaxryeah, i have smeg installed.. i have hoary tho06:21
Nytryxok anyone know how to install the xbutunu-desktop in horay?06:21
brennernalioth: i know.  about the renaming too.  i was amused by something else, nvm.06:22
blankI want to delete some menu entries, but I cant seem to know how06:22
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naliothNytryx: yes?06:22
gypsymauroI've created an iso apt-cdrom addable with the full italian localization, acrobat reader, skype, realplayer, some games and educational software (600 MB of iso) but I've not a place where to publish it..someone interested?06:22
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brennerjaxr: so run it from a terminal06:22
Nytryxive followed the instructions but its telling me that the package can be found06:22
brennerwhoops06:22
Nytryxnalioth any other ideas06:22
brennerjaxr: sorry, wrong person06:22
brennerblank: what don't you get?06:23
rob^^^Where is the wiki's RecentChanges RSS feed?06:23
naliothNytryx: xubuntu-desktop doesnt exist on hoary, install xfce4 things instead06:23
mmanns5860blank, all entries are installed applications, so when you delete them, you have to start these apps. in bash06:23
Nytryxhow?06:23
naliothNytryx: apt-cache search xfce4 to find all the pkgs you need to install06:23
Dreadnoughtuh it wont let me onto synaptic06:24
blankim done06:24
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coaxHey... I need to make my mailserver (postfix), mail as domain:gmail.com, is'nt there a file where i have to set that domain for my user??06:24
EthanI don't know if I can use synaptic to install t, and if so how...06:24
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brennerNytryx: you can make do with just the xfce4 package, then choose xfce from the sessions menu in gdm when you next login06:25
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EthanI have downloaded a *.deb, how can I install it cleanly?06:25
Nytryxim in consol mode06:25
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Secreth`XSomeone know where to find a driver for the nvidia Geforce MX 440?06:25
brennerEthan: what is it?06:25
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EthanIt is the newest ver sion of luxbox06:25
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MarcNEthan: usually you download a deb by way of synaptic or apt-get etc.06:25
EthanI got fluxbox already installed06:25
brennerubotu: tell Secreth`X about nvidia06:26
Secreth`Xthx06:26
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brennerluxbox? is that a typo?06:26
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Nytryxok so how do i install packages from console?06:26
brennerapt-get install <package>06:27
XenguyNytryx: sudo apt-get install packagename06:27
dataangelNytryx: Or if you already have a .deb file, dpkg -i yourdebhere.deb06:27
brenneror use aptitude06:27
naliothNytryx: i told you how to06:27
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dataangelNytryx: Or rather: sudo dpkg -i yourdebhere.deb06:27
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brennerword of warning: use the repo packages whenever possible06:28
david-4l1da1106:28
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Ethaner... and If I don't want? How can I use out-package?06:28
Nytryxok so the instructions on the site are for breezy to xubutnu right?06:29
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Ethanwhat is Brezzy?06:30
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Nytryxbreezy badger06:30
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naliothNytryx: xubuntu-desktop only exists in breezy, yes06:30
david-4l1daHi after upgrade from Hoary to Breezy I have small problem. somebodi can help06:30
naliothNytryx: but you can install the same pkgs on hoary06:30
Nytryxok then im downloading breezy06:30
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naliothdavid-4l1da: ask your question06:31
traaksdavid-4l1da: what's hte prob06:31
foampeacehi06:31
foampeacehow bout this as an idea06:31
Nytryxnalioth how?06:31
brennerubotu: tell Ethan about dpkg06:31
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david-4l1daat log-in, i get the default Gnome login & message that my "configuration file contains an invalid command line" which I should please fix.06:31
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CzarAlexWhat are some interesting things I can install on my ubuntu box that functions as a web server? I have a website on it, webadmin, phpbb, and a webbased PIM. What else could I tinker with?06:31
brennerEthan: but, you're trying to upgrade fluxbox to the latest version?  it might cause breakage doing it that way06:31
traaksdavid-4l1da: can u post the full error pls06:31
naliothNytryx: i will say it again. "apt-cache search xfce4"  use the results from the search to put into "sudo apt-get install pkg1 pkg2" etc06:31
XenguyNytryx: for more information BTW:06:31
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Ethanbrenner, uh? breakage?06:32
XenguyNytryx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo06:32
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Secreth`Xubotu, tell me about nvidia06:33
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blanktell ubotu to tell me about restricted formats06:33
foampeacehow bout a drag and drop python script so you can drop a file somewhere and itll automatically send it to your email address06:34
naliothblank: if you register your nick, you can talk to ubotu all you like06:34
david-4l1daAfter this I can login with my user and pass. But after testart I have this message again "configuration file contains an invalid command line" which I should please fix.06:34
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Secreth`Xdarn06:34
Secreth`Xforget something06:34
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Secreth`Xbrb again06:34
blankBut I like this nick :'( ant it's already taken...IM THE REAL BLANK, I had blanksite.net, codeblank.net, IM THE REAL BLANK *crying*06:35
philip_i cant get my scanner to work with ubuntu...06:35
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philip_can anyone lend a hand?06:35
Ethanwhy this is bad to use apt-get in su instead of sudo?06:35
tucozI get a GPG error when running apt-get update06:35
traaksdavid-4l1da: probably some problem with your gdm.conf file. unless you know the error can't do much to fix it06:35
brennerubotu: tell tucoz about gpgerr06:35
AgrajagEthan: it's not, it doesn't matter06:35
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trappistphilip_: please phrase your question in this format: "I'm trying to ______.  I've tried ____ and ____ but when I _____, ______ happens."06:35
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EthanAgrajag, someone tolde me it was.... ok, fine :D06:36
tucozbrenner, thanks06:36
Agrajageither way, you're running the same program as root06:36
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snausageshey all, i can't remember which files i can edit and change the colors of a theme, like say the titlebar color and such06:36
philip_im trying to get an epson 4180 scanner to work with ubuntu.  Ive tried using xsane but i get an error saying...06:36
Agrajagbut you don't need a root password, and most people should really just use sudo06:36
philip_o06:37
philip_no it just creashes actually06:37
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philip_and dissapears06:37
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philip_ive also tried using iscan06:37
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philip_that crashes with the error could not send command to scanner06:38
Nytryxok so how do i pause the list of search results so i can see the pagkage name?06:38
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XenguyNytryx: | less06:38
XenguyNytryx: append06:38
trappistphilip_: what does sane-find-scanner say06:38
Xenguythat06:38
blackhat!limewire06:39
ubotusomebody said limewire was first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.06:39
philip_found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON] , product=0x0118 [EPSON Scanner] ) at libusb:003:00206:39
Nytryxhuh add that to apt-cache search xfce4?06:39
XenguyNytryx: a.k.a. 'pipe to less'06:39
XenguyNytryx: yes06:39
blackhat!java06:39
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb06:39
philip_!java06:39
Nytryxhow?06:39
sylwaesomeone use mythtv ?06:39
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Xenguyhyphenated: apt-cache search xfce4 | less06:39
philip_!javadeb06:39
ubotuphilip_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!06:39
Xenguyhyphenated: sorry that was for Nytryx06:39
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Amaranthi think ubotu lost it's memory06:40
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Amaranthor the deb isn't available anymore06:40
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PJeremywhat does fmask 0111 mean?06:40
XenguyNytryx: you use pipes (|) to chain different commands together on the command line06:40
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philip_anyone?06:40
trappistphilip_: in /etc/sane.d/epson.conf try 'usb 0x0118'06:40
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|rt|last night i installed my first ubuntu box on my laptop....very impressed so far with ubuntu06:40
dell500does fglrx support dual monitors?06:40
trappistphilip_: or, usb 0x04b8 0x011806:40
gimmulfMaybe a little off topic but is "A activated account within minutes" correct english?06:40
trappistdell500: yes06:40
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|rt|coming from using gentoo for the past couple of years06:41
loki!ati06:41
ubotusomebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1006:41
philip_nope :(06:41
naliothAmaranth: gremlins have been changing things  !javadebs06:41
holy_cow*blink*06:41
lokithanks ubotu06:41
holy_cowqtparted can format hds in ntfs that win installer likes06:41
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holy_cowyet formatting the same hd via win2k results in a partition win cd doesn't like06:41
philip_ah06:41
XenguyNytryx: see also:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands06:41
holy_cowoh the irony06:41
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Amaranthnalioth: fixed06:42
philip_now i get :06:42
philip_falied to start scanner: invalid argument06:42
ditesh|cassinihi, i'm a new user to ubuntu's apt-get system. i have php4.4 installed but due to certain b/c breakage in 4.4, i need to roll back to 4.3 or earlier version. is this possible with apt-get?06:42
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Seveasditesh|cassini, no06:42
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philip_but i do get a choice of two scanners06:42
trappistditesh|cassini: if it's available in the repository06:42
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XenguyPJeremy: did you mean umask?06:43
loki!ati breezy06:43
ubotuloki: I haven't a clue06:43
Seveas(well, with apt-get it is possible, but the package is no longer there)06:43
loki!atibreezy06:43
ubotuNot a clue, loki06:43
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ditesh|cassinihmm ok.06:43
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PJeremyXenguy: no, i meant what i typed. read it on the ubuntu wiki on how to mount fat/ntfs06:43
loki!ati drivers06:43
ubotuloki: Are you on ritalin?06:43
ditesh|cassinii'll check if the package is available.06:43
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Seveasloki, stop experimenting06:43
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naliothubotu: tell loki about ati06:43
XenguyPJeremy: OK, I'm thinking of something different then06:43
Seveasyou can also just ask the *people* in here06:44
naliothloki: if you ask a question, you'll get a response06:44
lokithe bot is faster :)06:44
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PJeremyXenguy: since breezy apparently automounts fat32, i'm wondering if i can just edit to rw access or not06:44
blackhat!limewire06:44
Seveasnot if you ask bugus things and annoy the people06:44
ubotuI heard limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.06:44
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lokianyone know where the current breezy ATI install guied is :) TIA06:44
axelhello people06:44
PJeremyXenguy: that's why i looked at the wiki..06:44
dataangelGo to the ubuntu forums and get Automatrix if you want limewire, it'll install it for you06:45
XenguyPJeremy: dunno - good luck06:45
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naliothloki: if you register your nick, you can /pm ubotu and chat away06:45
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Seveasloki, same as always, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDrivers06:45
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naliothdataangel: please dont recommend "easy scripts"06:45
axelloki: u mean for 3d/opengl ?06:45
dataangelnalioth: Why?06:45
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cayaxHello to all06:45
traakscayax: hi06:45
cayaxSomebody that Speak Spanish?06:45
naliothdataangel: because some of them are downright dangerous to use06:45
lokifor hardware excellleration for 9800 pro06:45
trappist!es06:45
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:45
nalioth!es06:45
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cayaxok06:46
cayaxgracias06:46
axelloki: are u running on x86 or amd64 ?06:46
philip_the  usb 0x04b8 0x0118 works06:46
philip_but i get that error when i scan06:46
DM|Can0nIs anyone using NForce4 with a 5.1 speaker system in here ?06:46
dataangelnalioth: Automatrix has its own forum on ubuntuforums.org along with a bunch of users, and it didn't bork my system.06:46
Secreth`XYay. Got wolfenstein ET working. Only no sounds :(06:46
trappistphilip_: what error?06:46
lokix8606:46
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PJeremySeveas: can i just edit /etc/fstab for a fat32 to be rw with umask=000 or how is it being handled in breezy?06:46
philip_falied to start scanner: invalid argument06:46
Seveasdataangel, the concept of such scripts is broken beyond repair06:47
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trappistphilip_: oh, I used to get that.  maybe I can remember why.06:47
trappistphilip_: try running xsane as root06:47
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philip_ok06:47
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dataangelSeveas: linux packaging in general isn't much better06:47
dell500anyone know if this how-to is legit, it asks to remove linux-restricted-modules from apt-get06:47
naliothdataangel: your's is not the only system. it can work fine for you and break the corners of someone elses06:47
dell500http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7846606:47
trappistI think it's a version mismatch between frontends and backends06:47
Seveasdataangel, complete bullshit06:47
trappistinherited from debian06:47
dataangelSeveas: it serves the purpose of providing an easier way to install stuff the ubuntu team doesn't package06:47
philip_same error again :(06:48
axelloki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI the Hoary Hedgehog config steps worked fine for me on Breezy06:48
Seveasdataangel, it is a piece of crap that *overwrites* config files and other stuff06:48
|rt|_ugh....my internet connect just dropped....did anyone answer or see my question?06:48
lokithanks axel :)06:48
trappistphilip_: see if scanimage works on the command line06:48
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axelloki, ur welcome06:48
naliothdataangel: some of those scripts use --force-all options, for petes sake06:48
blankwhat can I use to play wmv files06:48
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loki:D06:48
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trappistblank: mplayer06:49
PJeremyblank: mplayer for example..06:49
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blankany others?06:49
traaksblank: vlc06:49
philip_scanimage -L gives me06:50
philip_device `v4l:/dev/video0' is a Noname ASUS TV-FM 7134 virtual device06:50
philip_device `epson:libusb:003:002' is a Epson  flatbed scanner06:50
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dataangelSeveas: True, but I wasn't just spouting bullshit. I was thinking of other ways packaging is broken (ABI complications, cross-distro packages being impossible, difficulty installing into home folder, etc.)06:50
axelHelp, i get a "C compiler cannot create executables" error when i do a ./configure, do i need anything more in addition to gcc ??06:50
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trappistblank: xine, totem... there are lots of media players for linux06:50
jgwblank, you're still in here asking how to play wmv files? you've been here since yesterday afternoon asking that, and people have told you over and over06:50
blackhatis there anyway to resize NTFS partitions in linu06:50
trappistaxel: a lot of things can cause that06:50
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traaksaxel: look in config.log06:51
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trappistaxel: if you're on a filesystem mounted noexec, if you have invalid stuff in your CC or CFLAGS environment variables, et.c06:51
|rt|_blackhat: yes but you need to defrag your ntfs valume first06:51
traaksaxel: might give u more info on what's wrong06:51
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blackhatWell I would resize to make it bigger (it wouldn't matter).06:51
u1sunhi, anyone know how to install ffmpeg2theora properly06:51
gilis it true that the next ubuntu release will be kde?06:51
philip_hope not06:51
dataangelgil: No06:51
|rt|_blackhat: qtparted or gparted should then be able to resize the filesystem06:51
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philip_anyone got any ideas?06:52
blackhatI tried qtparted and it said it doesnt support ntfs.06:52
gilI heard that shuttleworth exclusively uses kubuntu now, and that Dapper Drake will be kde06:52
dataangelgil: They just said Kubuntu is going to be upped to the same status as Ubuntu06:52
dataangelgil: Shuttleworth runs it now as his desktop06:52
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dataangelgil: But ubuntu will continue06:52
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gilinteresting06:52
nalioth|rt|_: qtparted is the only one that can resize ntfs06:52
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gilI wonder if Ubuntu will still have shoddy automounting06:52
trappistphilip_: see if you can actually scan with scanimage06:52
axeltrappist: i did a default breezy install, is it noexec ?06:53
dataangelgil: The automounting is shoddier in Kubuntu at the moment. It's borked.06:53
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antipodehow do you install a /home/u1sun/multimedia/ffmpeg2theora-1.15.linux.bin06:53
antipode?06:53
naliothblackhat: qtparted DOES support ntfs, it's the only graphical partitioner that does06:53
jgwblackhat: the trial version of partitionmagic may do the trick. i've never had good luck writing/modifying ntfs from linux, to date06:53
trappistaxel: probably not06:53
dataangelgil: The automounting in ubuntu works fine for me except for ejecting my ipod.06:53
gildataangel they *really* shouldn't be using fstab for removable media06:53
trappistaxel: echo $CC $CFLAGS06:53
jgwblackhat: reading? yes, works great, but06:53
blankjgw:...no....06:53
geovanehi for all06:53
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jgwblank: no what?06:53
philip_oh...06:53
dataangelgil: Err, well, I was only thinking as far as whether it appears to work ;)06:53
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philip_:p06:53
blackhatI need to resize a NTFS Partition in linux, I tried qtparted it said its not yet supported ntfs06:54
|rt|_nalioth: ah...well doesn't it just use ntfs_resize to do that06:54
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gildatangel that's where the problems stem from - udev/hal are supposed to manage removable stuff rather than fstab )06:54
jgwdataangel in seattle?06:54
|rt|_blackhat: i believe there is a command line tool to do it if qtparted is refusing to do it06:54
dataangeljgw: Err, no. Why would I be? :P06:54
nalioth|rt|_: correct, qtparted uses ntfstools06:54
lokiok thank re-booting :)06:54
trappistblackhat: ntfsresize is part oftools and/or ntfsprogs06:54
blackhat=/06:54
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jgwdataangel: ah you must be a diff dataangel ;) sorry06:55
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dataangeljgw: Ah. np :)06:55
trappistblackhat: ntfsprogs06:55
blackhatok, trappist thanks06:55
philip_i cant seem to get the device name :(06:55
blackhatAhh its by command line06:55
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trappistphilip_: try unplugging your webcam06:55
spencerkhello #ubuntu, i've installed jack and ive installed alsa, when i try to run jackd -R -p 512  -d alsa06:55
spencerk, it says "unknown driver 'alsa' ". any ideas?06:55
Secreth`XIs there a driver for soundblaster live ?06:55
philip_webcam??06:55
trappistSecreth`X: yes06:55
|rt|_is there a document that explains the ubuntu init/rc system?06:55
Secreth`Xtrappist, where can I get it?06:55
trappistphilip_: or whatever that other device is.  the v4l one.06:56
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|rt|_trying to figure out how it works and i'm used to the gentoo system for that06:56
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trappistSecreth`X: it's part of the kernel.  modprobe emu10k106:56
philip_i dont have anything plugged in that might be that device06:56
Secreth`Xso you say it's already in here?06:56
trappistyes06:56
Secreth`Xthen why doesnt it work?06:56
trappistphilip_: oh, it looks like maybe a tv tuner card06:57
blackhatCan someone help me with resizing my ntfs partition =/06:57
philip_oh...06:57
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Secreth`Xubotu, tell blackhat about ntfsresize06:57
philip_cant really unplug that06:57
naliothblackhat: qtparted or ntfsprogs06:57
jgwblackhat: try partitionmagic trial ed?06:57
naliothSecreth`X: c'mon man, he aint omniscient06:57
jgwor qtparted or ntfsprogs ;)06:58
blackhatthey have one for linux?06:58
axeltrappist,traaks: the configlog shows "failed program: confdefs.h" , i dont know what this is , do u ?06:58
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Secreth`Xnalioth, what? :S06:58
jgwblackhat: it is/was a boot floppy/cd06:58
spencerkblackhat, apt-get install ntfsprogs06:58
blackhatoh.06:58
jgwits "own os"06:58
jgwyou boot off it, make your changes, and take the floppy/cd out06:58
traaksaxel: need a few more lines of context before and after this line06:58
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jerem51bonjour a tous06:58
jgwhttp://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/06:58
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trappistphilip_: I had this problem at home and I can't remember how I solved it06:59
jgw^^ ntfsprogs website, seems theyve made huge progress06:59
dpupphow do i specify the wep key to be used into ubuntu 5.10 ?06:59
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Mabus06hey uh... I was playing a game, and when i exited the screen is now waaay too large06:59
Mabus06how do I change this06:59
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dell500i'm trying to install the new fglrx/ati driver right now, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78466 tells me to run the command 'sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'... this doesn't seem very wise to me for some reason...06:59
trappistMabus06: try ctrl-alt-numpad-06:59
antipodeanyone know how to install a ffmpeg2theora=0.15 file?06:59
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dataangelMabus06: It didn't change your resolution back. System->Preferences->Screen Resolution06:59
jerem51quelqu'un sait il quel est le serveur ubutnu fr06:59
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erUSUL!tell jerem51 about fr06:59
traaksaxel: can u send me the config.log file07:00
ddcdell500 this is all ok07:00
Mabus06ty dataangel07:00
antipodeits ffmpeg2theora-0.15.linux.bin.bz2 file07:00
ddcjust did this some ours ago07:00
spencerkanyone got some help for my jack-alsa problem?07:00
jgwdell: i dont know the "right" way, but i just apt-get installed the fglrx drivers and did nothing else and it worked fine07:00
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dell500ddc, why do i need to do that step though? to reload the modules?07:00
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dell500ddc, did you get 3d accel to work?07:00
N1omican someone let me know what the command is to reconfigure the time settings in BASH?07:00
ddcthe uname -r will be replaced with your current kernel version07:00
jgwdell: i had to install fglrx drivers because opengl was crashing my machine07:00
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dell500ddc, i have a 9600xt07:00
blanksome windows I have are freezing and I cant close them, how can I 'kill' them07:00
axeltraaks, ok im sending07:00
jgwdell: 3d accel works on my 9200 ati card now07:00
jgwblank: what vid card?07:01
Xenguyblank: if you know 'top', you can kill processes with that tool07:01
|rt|N1omi: you need to set the system clock?07:01
dpuppanyone know how i can  specify the wep key to be used into ubuntu 5.10 ?07:01
spencerkcan anyone see me?07:01
|rt|N1omi: date is the command to see the current time and set it07:01
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ddcI have a X300 card and I can play tuxracer :D07:01
Xenguyblank: otherwise you can do command-line: ps aux |grep applicationname07:01
ericis there a way to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 with apt-get or anything?07:01
blackhatWith ntfsresizer you cant make partitions bigger?07:01
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blackhatERROR: New size can't be bigger than the device size.07:02
blackhatIf you want to enlarge NTFS then first enlarge the device size by e.g. fdisk.07:02
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Xenguyblank: that will give you the 'PID', and then you just 'kill -9 PID'07:02
Avenhelp07:02
naliothspencerk: are you sitting in your underwear?07:02
ddccan someone help me, I'm trying to recompile my kernel but i keerp getting this error Inconsistent kallsyms data07:02
ddcTry setting CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS07:02
Avenhow do I add a mysql database?07:02
Avencommand?07:02
erUSULeric, yes07:02
tobi-wan[away] aven: create database07:02
ericerUSUL, how?07:02
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Aventobi-wan[away] : create database name-of-database07:03
Aventhat's it? :P07:03
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blankwait, what? top?07:03
N1omi|rt|, is there an apt-get or dpkg that downloads something related to the time/date config, reinstalls and/or reset to default?07:03
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erUSULeric, change in sources.list breezy for hoary and do a apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade07:03
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axeltraaks, dcc send timed out ?07:03
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|rt|N1omi: I don't know I just installed Ubuntu for the first time last night07:04
erUSULeric, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade07:04
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Avenhelp :(07:04
ericty07:04
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|rt|N1omi: by default Ubuntu uses NTP to set the system time07:04
philip_help :(07:04
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blankokay so first what command to find the pid, then kill what07:04
dell500what is kernal framebuffer device interface?07:04
traaksdell500: /dev/fb007:05
Xenguyblank: scroll up, dude :-)07:05
|rt|N1omi: to set the system timezone by hand you normally have to make a symbolic link /etc/localtime to the timezone you are in07:05
dpuppis it possible to change the wep encryption key via terminal?07:05
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Xenguyblank: or do '/last Xenguy'07:05
frogzooblank: ps aux |grep {app name}07:05
|rt|N1omi: but I'm not sure if that's true un ubutnu07:05
|rt|N1omi: un = in07:05
antipodehello, does anyone know how to install a ffmpeg2theora-0.15.linux.bin?07:05
erUSULdell500, is an interface for the videocard07:05
dell500traaks, what does it do?07:05
dell500should it be enabled?07:05
blankthe PID is the second number, or which07:06
blankyeah, and then it gives me all these numbers, which ones is the PID07:06
traaksdell500: the framebuffer device gives you certain 'graphics' capabilitis within console mode.. that's what makes the 'tux' logo appear when the system is booting07:06
Xenguyblank: far left column07:06
blankokay07:07
ddcanyone knows of some problems compilling kallsyms.c on ubuntu 5.10 with kernel 2.6.12-9-38607:07
traaksdell500: no it's not essential, just cool to have it :)07:07
dell500so it would be neat to enable it :)07:07
dell500lol07:07
traaksddc: tried make clean; make ?07:07
Xenguyblank: e.g. ps aux |grep irssi07:07
blankthere we go :D07:07
dell500what things can  you do with it?07:07
dell500besides the logo07:07
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blankfor some reason I cnat play wmv files07:07
N1omi|rt|, un doesn't appear to work in ubuntu :/ thanks for the help though. my system clock is off, but i have to set it in UTC, i think07:07
blankeven with totem, vlc, mplayer...etc.07:07
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ddctraaks: not yet I'll give it a try07:07
Xenguyblank: memorize that method, it will come in handy :-)07:07
dell500wmv you need windows codecs installed for it to work07:07
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frogzoohow do I adjust the image displayed while Ubuntu is booting? the image is the wrong res & screenwraps07:08
N1omiblank, did you install proprietary formats?07:08
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blackhatin my fstab this mounts my ntfs device, /dev/hdc1       /media/crap     ntfs    user,umask=0222 0 0, I had to unmount it to resize it but now I want to mount it again and I don't want to reboot, whats the command?07:08
traaksdell500: no idea sorry07:08
naliothblackhat: sudo mount /dev/hdc107:08
blackhatThanks ;-)07:08
axeltraaks, i cant cant manage to send u the file dunno why07:08
frogzooblackhat: mount /media/crap07:08
ompaulnalioth,07:08
sunshine82i need to uninstall a file that in my home folder this file isn not in sypatic07:08
blankNlomi: how?07:08
naliothompaul: ?07:09
xinsihow could I manage my boot service?07:09
x86ixinsi: Download BUM07:09
blankthis is messed up07:09
frogzooxinsi: install "bum"07:09
traaksaxel: sorry can't help.. try going thru the config.log yourself and see if u can figure out any errors before the confdefs error07:09
blankwhen I'm in linux, my eject button on my drives dont work, I need to right click the mounted drive and click eject :(07:09
jgwblank: what is?07:09
ompaulnalioth, doh!07:09
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xinsiinstall bum?07:09
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patrick_hi all07:09
x86iblank: thats normal. thats called locking the drive.07:09
Xenguyxinsi: apt-get install bum07:09
blanknalioth: how do i install proprietary formats07:10
sunny_boyWhat's the default root password?07:10
blankx86i, how cna I unlock the drive07:10
ompaulxinsi, bum = boot up manager07:10
blanknothing07:10
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frogzooblank: you have to unmount the drive first - then the eject button will work07:10
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patrick_can someone help me to install crossoveroffice ?07:10
axeltraaks: well the only error is a couple lines before its says it didnt find usr/bin/ld directory07:10
xinsithank you07:10
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x86isunny_boy: the root password is randomly generated.07:10
blankah, okay07:10
blanklol07:10
ompaulx86i, wrong07:10
sunny_boyx86i - how can i change it?07:10
Xenguy!tell sunny_boy about root07:11
Mabus06How come everyone says there is no root password, but I remember setting the root password?07:11
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sunny_boylovely. thanks.07:11
traaksaxel: you probably need the binutils package.. sudo apt-get install binutils07:11
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patrick_apt-get install crossover-pro_4.2-2_i386  , don't work ??07:11
axeltraaks: or the usr/bin/ld: ctrl.o file07:11
Xenguy!tell Mabus06 about root07:11
blankguys, I really need a program that converts AVI files to dvd format so I can watch on my dvd player07:11
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Mabus06Yes Xenguy I read that.07:11
blankNalioth: how do I install proprietary formats07:11
MadpilotMabus06: you set your own user pw07:11
axeltraaks, ok thx ill try this07:11
Mabus06But Xenguy it is not true, because I did set my root password.07:11
frogzoo!restricted formats07:11
ubotuit has been said that restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'07:11
ompaulMabus06, there is none set, it would be better to say "there is none set, please use sudo"07:11
XenguyMabus06: maybe you did the 'expert' install07:11
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naliothubotu: tell blank about restricted07:12
sunny_boyThanks guys. Sorry for the interruption :)07:12
Mabus06I did, but why would people say there is no root, when it really isn't that hard to set it.07:12
x86iMabus06: Did you do an expert install07:12
axeltraaks, already have binutils07:12
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traaksaxel: oops not right... cud you send me the exact error.. copy paste07:12
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jgwmabus: they mean the root account is disabled by default07:12
XenguyMabus06: you didn't read the URL very well me thinks ;-)07:12
axeltraaks, can u open a private chat so i dont flood here07:12
naliothMabus06: because the ubuntu devs feel 'root' is unnecessary07:12
jgwmabus: it rough terms07:12
jgws/it/in07:13
naliothubotu: tell axel about paste07:13
ompaulMabus06, take this to #ubuntu-offtopic now please - conversations aplenty there this is support channel07:13
xinsi:/LIST07:13
traaksaxel: how do i do that07:13
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traaksubotu: tell traaks about paste07:14
Mattiashow do i install English + on ubuntu?07:14
Mattiasthe wine seems very old07:15
dell500does anyone know why my java_vm is running at like 60-90% cpu and 300mb of memory?07:15
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dell500I can't seem to kill it either07:15
N1omiall: what's the apt-get for gstreamer codecs?07:15
naliothdell500: because java sucks?07:15
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cuscoN1omi: apt-cache search gstreamer07:15
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dpuppis it possible to change/enter the wep encryption key via terminal?07:15
naliothN1omi: is that you?07:15
dell500nalioth, agreed07:16
frogzoonalioth java rocks when it works, which isn't always07:16
cuscodpupp: yes use iwconfig07:16
Nytryxok whats the name of the text based web browser?07:16
naliothNytryx: irssi07:16
clb_lynx07:16
dpuppi did... but it just lists information07:16
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N1ominalioth: yes, i'm on my laptop, i probably left xchat running on my desktop07:16
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Secreth`Xbrb07:16
frogzooNytryx: lynx07:16
Mattiashow do i install newest wine?07:16
XenguyNytryx: or try links07:16
cuscodpupp: sudo iwconfig -h07:16
naliothNytryx: or links207:16
Mattiasthe wine following breezy isnt working07:16
dpuppah07:16
naliothNytryx: or w3m07:16
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dpuppthanks cusco.07:16
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cuscodpupp: sudo iwconfig device enc NNNN-NNNN07:16
xinsihow could I disable the boot service that connect to the ubuntu server?07:17
N1omicusco: thanks!07:17
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cusconp07:17
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xinsiwhich service is it ?07:17
cuscoxinsi: what boot service?07:17
cuscothe clock?07:17
clb_xinsi: ntptime?07:17
cuscontpdate07:18
clb_delete /etc/rcS.d/S51ntpdate07:18
cuscosudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate07:18
clb_or do what cusco said07:18
dpuppcusco, are wep encryption keys case sensitive?07:18
cuscodpupp: ofcourse07:19
dpuppok07:19
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clb_hey, I built my own kernel from kernel.org but I can't boot the vmlinux image.. I get invalid image error in grub07:19
xinsiI can't find it nptime in bum07:19
denseralvohello people07:19
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Mattiassomeone knows how i can get newest Wine?07:19
denseralvowho r using ubuntu?07:19
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traaksmattias: are you on amd6407:19
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denseralvoi know07:19
denseralvowinehq.com07:20
N1omii'm having troubles with ntp as well -- when i try to install NTP support i get errors07:20
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denseralvono07:20
Mattiastraaks, im on a celeron07:20
denseralvo32bit07:20
blankright now my pc was effed up07:20
blanki started it07:20
blankad i couoldn't start anything, terminal, nothing07:20
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blankit says 'cant start' something like that, something about user Xauthorization file07:20
mtupperhey all, having a problem installing mysql...07:20
dduckowell that hurt..07:20
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blankyeah :( i was scared07:20
xinsii got it ,it is ntpdate, and thank you07:21
mtupperi run the apt-get install cmd and get this:07:21
mtupperReading package lists... Done07:21
mtupperBuilding dependency tree... Done07:21
mtupperE: Couldn't find package mysql-standard-5.0.15-linux-i686-glibc23.tar.gz07:21
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naliothmtupper: please dont paste in here07:21
sunshine82i need to uninstall a file that in my home folder this file isn not in sypatic07:21
Mattiastraaks, this is my error http://pastebin.com/42572807:21
_jasonblank, have you tried deleting/renaming the file?  I believe it will create a new one07:21
blankwatch, I think it's when I try to install bum07:21
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dduckosunshine82, uninstal or remove?07:21
_jasonblank, Xauthority tight?07:22
blank_jason: I cnat start anything, I was so pissed, seriously, i cant fucken do anything, click icons, run terminals, creat files, select folders, nothing07:22
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blankwell i guess it's over07:22
blankso im alright07:22
traaksmattias: looking gimme a min07:22
liz4rdblank, go in ~/ and delete the .ICEauthority    file then restart X07:22
mtupperok, no more, paste...   any recommendations though?07:22
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blankyeah but I think it's all alright now, nothing's wrong07:22
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blankI just restarted and it worked07:22
liz4rdalright07:22
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liz4rdjust member that if it happens and it wont work07:22
traaksmattias: what are u trying to install thru wine ?07:22
trappistmtupper: you don't apt-get install tarballs07:22
cuscoblank: xauth merge /home/user/.Xauthority07:22
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blankliz4rd: yeah but then I wouldn't be able to get into terminal...heh07:23
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Mattiastraaks, English + for my mother to learn english.07:23
doug_who knows how to change the startup preference on grub2?07:23
liz4rdblank, yes you could07:23
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blankhow o.007:23
cuscoblank: you can use a tty like alt+ctrl+ F307:23
liz4rdblank, ctrl + alt + F207:23
blank*presses*07:23
liz4rdor F307:23
frogzoodoug_: man grub07:23
_jasonyou guys should have told him how to get back..07:23
liz4rdlol07:24
doug_ty07:24
liz4rdOoops07:24
dduckoyeah..thats what I was thinking07:24
dduckooops07:24
traaksmattias: i was thinking u had problems installing wine itself :( sorry can't help u07:24
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cjwhat is the ubuntu kernel image package called?07:24
liz4rdalright now for my problem07:24
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liz4rd:P07:24
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mtupperooops...  ok i have demonstrated my rookie status...  so i have to untar / unpack it first, then install?07:24
Mattiastraaks, well i was thinking a newer version might help, but im used to gentoo and i don't know how to get the newest wine in ubuntu07:24
trappistcj: linux07:24
cjthanks, trappist07:24
traaksmattias: what's the output of wine --version07:25
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Mattiastraaks, Wine 2005072507:25
liz4rdi have ubuntu breezy and i install the nvidia-glx  drivers and now when i enable the hardware acell (change the driver to "nvidia" instead of "nv" ) X wont start. i got a log file with it in there anyone care to help?07:25
sunshine82dducko i want to remove it from my computer07:25
traaksmattias: that is currently the latest version availble in breezy afaik..07:26
mtupperi have a more basic question...  why isnt MySQL in Synaptic...?  I have tried to get it listed on the repository to no avail...07:26
morphixok i have a very odd situation. i compiled eggdrop (yet again) but when i load it up in background mode (just the normal: eggdrop command) the egg doesnt connect to irc at all.. but when i do eggdrop & it does :/07:26
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Mattiastraaks, the setup.exe starts with that i can choose if i want swedish or english as setup language, then if i click anything there i get that error.07:26
traaksmattias: have u tried installing the app in windows itself and then running the app thru wine07:26
Mattiastraaks, the app works in windows07:26
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mike4263hey, for a standard desktop install of 5.10 on a machine that dual boots windows, what filesystem should i use07:26
adrian_(im blank) *crying* man, I actually pressed it, and my pc came up with this tty thing, so i restarted, and then it says it cant find ext3 :'(07:26
Mattiastraaks, its a 5 years old cd tho07:26
adrian_somone please help me :(07:26
mike4263i'm thinking ext307:26
trappistMattias: he's suggesting installing it in windows and running the windows install through wine07:26
adrian_I pressed CTRL + ALT + F307:26
mike4263will that be easier to work with in windows?07:27
liz4rdmike4263, anyone you want :P07:27
adrian_and it came up with tty307:27
traaksmattias: if u mount ur windows partition in linux and then try running the app thru wine, does it work07:27
Madpilotmtupper: mysql is in Synaptic - you need to enable the Universe/Multiverse repositories, I think07:27
Mattiastraaks, problem is i don't have windows :P07:27
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trappistMattias: like wine /mnt/windows/Program\ Files....07:27
adrian_so i logged in and typed startx07:27
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frogzoodoug_: for the full grub docs, install grub-docs & "info grub"07:27
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adrian_and now my pc is messed up, someone please help  me :(07:27
BooZeehow do I delete a directory ?07:27
_jasonblank, once you are in tty you can switch to 1-6 by pressing alt+f1-alt+f6 to get back you just hit alt+f707:27
Hoxzerhttp://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/the_honeymooners/large.html can you guys get sound from this?07:27
trappistBooZee: rm -rf07:27
XenguyBooZee: command-line?07:27
mike4263liz4rd, ya but which is "more better"07:27
Mattiastraaks, i guess ill have to find a linux alternative for a english learning app07:27
axelWho knows about a good video conversion prog on Ubuntu ?07:27
trappistaxel: mencoder07:28
Mattiastraaks, you don't happen to know anything on learning languages?07:28
adrian__jason: but I didnt know so i restarted, and now im getting weird things when I start my pc :( cant find ext3 or something07:28
N1omii get these errors when i try to install NTP: http://pastebin.com/42573607:28
XenguyBooZee: if the dir is empty, rmdir07:28
axeltrappist: thank u07:28
liz4rdmike4263, ReiserFS07:28
BooZeethanks07:28
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XenguyBooZee: careful, 'rm -rf dir' is recursive07:28
adrian_nevermind it works now (restarted again), man ubuntu is freaking me out, it keeps messing up randomly :(07:28
adrian_anyone wanna ssh to my pc and check it out07:29
cjXenguy: and forced07:29
traaksmattias: nope :(07:29
trappistN1omi: looks like your sources.list is borked07:29
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Xenguyadrian_: don't do that07:29
cjadrian_: what do you need done?07:29
N1omiadrian_, please be more specific about your problem.07:29
Xenguycj: nod07:29
liz4rdadrian_, dont say that unless your box is totally usless at this time07:29
adrian_ITS ME BLANK07:29
liz4rdtheres assholes ont hte net07:29
liz4rdoh07:29
liz4rdsnap07:29
liz4rdhey07:29
Mattiasanyone in here know any application that teaches english in linux?07:29
adrian_some guy told me to press ALT+CTRL+F307:29
BooZeerecursive = unreversable ?07:29
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liz4rdsorry i didnt tell you how to get out of cle07:29
adrian_and then i went into tty307:29
liz4rd:P07:29
adrian_i logged in and typed 'starx'07:30
liz4rdare you in it right now?07:30
liz4rdstartx?07:30
liz4rdno no no07:30
N1omitrappist: thanks -- is there something i can do to reset to default, or find a pre-made one with popular repositories?07:30
liz4rdpress the combo again07:30
adrian_it didnt work, cause it said i was already logged in, so then i restarted and i got this 'built in bash' thing, so i just restarted again and it works :)07:30
liz4rdlog in07:30
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cjadrian_: place this file in your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file, and run "chmod 600 $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys"07:30
liz4rdtype sudo killall gdm07:30
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cjhttp://colliertech.org/~cjcollier/pgp/cjcollier.pub07:30
liz4rdthen type sudo gdm07:30
cjer, sorry.  that's my pgp key, not ssh07:30
liz4rdthen you'll be good07:30
adrian_:)07:30
liz4rdalright adrian?07:30
adrian_kay :(07:31
trappist!tell N1omi about repos07:31
adrian_it works now! :D07:31
frogzooMattias: maybe try the english forums @ http://wordreference.com/07:31
adrian_I just restarted07:31
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liz4rd:P07:31
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cjadrian_: make that http://colliertech.org/~cjcollier/ssh/cjcollier.pub07:32
Mattiasfrogzoo, oh, its for my mother that knows none english at all, i need something that can teach the basics of the languages and those stuffs.07:32
blank*sniff* it works now07:32
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blankthanks for all the help, but I just restarted and it works, or should there be something else I have to do07:32
clb_why isn't there mkinitrd in ubuntu.. only mkinitramfs?07:32
liz4rdblank, *sniff* isnt it butifull07:32
blanko.007:33
Mattiasfrogzoo, forgot to mention it has to be in swedish to :)07:33
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liz4rdlol07:33
trappistclb_: I wanna know that too.  I've had a helluva time building a kernel.07:33
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trappistclb_: there is a mkinitrd but it doesn't run with make install07:33
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trappistblank: initrd-tools07:34
clb_which package should I install to get mkinitrd? initrd-tools?07:34
trappistyes07:34
N1omitrappist, you are so helpful! thanks!07:34
Mattiasbah. i guess ill have to install windows. :/07:34
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liz4rdMattias, BAH! forbid it!07:34
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Mattiasliz4rd, ofcourse its not for my main computer :) ill always use linux, but my mother uses ancient windows apps that wine cannot read :P07:35
Secreth`Xlol07:35
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mike4263whats a good size swap for 512MB (I'm planning on putting in another gig of ram at some point)07:35
liz4rdMattias, ewie07:35
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liz4rdmike4263, whats your ram size right now?07:36
mike426351207:36
adjacentanyone else have a p[roblem with some flash objects freezing at 1 sec? things like google video are useless. what could this be?07:36
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liz4rdthen put 1 gig of swap07:36
bluefrog-10mike4263, double it07:36
mike4263k07:36
dduckoand that is why I love linux07:37
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liz4rdif you but more swap shit will cache to early and make you slow down a bit07:37
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kevinHi, how do I extract a ' cpkg ' ?07:37
liz4rdso yeah always double your swap from what your ram is07:37
lokiHooray! I got my apache server working :) now all I need to know is where the hell it installed to LOL! :) where is all my files so i can go about tweeking my l337 ubuntu server TIA :)07:37
trappistno, do not always make your swap ram x 207:37
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dducko/var/www I believe07:37
liz4rdi have ubuntu breezy and i install the nvidia-glx  drivers and now when i enable the hardware acell (change the driver to "nvidia" instead of "nv" ) X wont start. i got a log file with it in there anyone care to help?07:37
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dduckoliz4rd, I just did that,07:37
marlunI'm reading "learning the shell" on www.linuxcommand.org and now I read that /home is the only place where users are allowed to write files. What about if I want to create a web application, should I not save them in a directory inside /var/www/ ?07:37
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liz4rddducko....oh?07:38
liz4rdand07:38
bluefrog-10liz4rd, there's no need to fiddle with xorg.conf when u install nvidia-glx07:38
liz4rdi kow07:38
adjacentmarlun: you arent a user. you are the administrator07:38
liz4rdi didnt do the enable command shit07:38
liz4rdbut still07:38
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liz4rdX wont start07:38
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liz4rdi installed nvidia-glx before upgrading kernels07:38
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N1ominewbie question: what is the exact location of sources.list?07:39
liz4rdand it worked07:39
liz4rdbut i uninstaleld it before i switched07:39
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liz4rdand reinstalled when i was on the new one07:39
liz4rdand BAM07:39
liz4rdit didnt work again07:39
bigfoot1i downloaded a mid file. it ends in .mid but ubuntu says file type is "html". what's up?07:39
dduckoahh I see07:39
bluefrog-10liz4rd, remove completely nvidia-glx, install, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, sudo modprobe nvidia, ctrl alt return, log in07:39
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adjacentmarlun: and yes, /var/www is a standard place to puyt websites. usually /var/www/home or /var/www/othersite aliases to a vhost.07:39
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jc-dentonhi all07:39
liz4rdN1omi, /etc/apt/sources.list07:39
jc-dentonubuntu is bitching that my universe packages are not signed07:39
N1omiliz4rd, thanks a lot :)07:39
liz4rdnp07:39
adjacentmarlun: user space webpages are typically read from /home/user/public_html and are referenced by www.blah.com/~user/07:40
naliothubotu: tell jc-denton about gpgerr07:40
bigfoot1how can i change the filetype of a file?07:40
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jc-dentondeb http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe07:40
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liz4rdbut bluefrog-1007:40
jron_anyone gotten pftp-mew working on ubuntu? can't figure out why this thing isnt compiling....07:40
liz4rdhow do i07:40
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dduckoHmm.. Well I screwed my kernel up just now.. heh.. which is why i love linux, just installed a different one, booted to X figured out what my problem was reinstalled the k7 stuff and got my Nvidia working07:40
N1omibigfoot1, right click and rename07:40
mike4263there an easy way to say have everything thats installed by source added to like /usr/localsrc07:40
adjacentloki: cmon.07:40
jc-dentonthat's my universe entry in /etc/apt/sources.list07:40
sidizenhow can i tell how much harddisk space i have left?07:40
liz4rd"remove completly"?07:40
adjacentloki: use locate07:40
jack-lol jron_07:40
jc-dentonwhat can be wrong with it07:40
liz4rdjust sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx?07:40
marlunadjacent, hehe everytime I have a new question you answer it before I have time to ask it :P07:40
lokicool, thanks :)07:40
mike4263sidizen df07:40
sidizendf?07:40
anavimdoes anyone know the url for the linux patent company, open innovation network, announced today in the news?07:40
jc-dentoni never saw this warning before with universe07:40
jron_why so funny jack- ?07:40
mike4263sidizen df -h actually07:40
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mike4263"disk free"07:40
sidizenat the terminal/07:40
bluefrog-10liz4rd, complete removal with synaptic07:40
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mike4263ya07:41
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sidizensweet07:41
vmwareexit07:41
vmwarequit07:41
sidizenman xubuntu doesn't take up much space07:41
dduckobluefrog-10, he doesnt have x07:41
adjacentloki: if you just installed, you may need to run updatedb first to recreate the search index. that is normally run at midnight from cron07:41
bigfoot1N1omi: the file ends in .mid, but ubuntu thinks the filetype is "html web page"07:41
jack-jron_: just copy the binary from any linux shell you compiled it on07:41
sidizenonly 1.1 GBs07:41
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adrian_i think my other pc froze, cuase I cant do anything except watch the text from xchat (it updates) and move my mouse :(07:41
adjacentmarlun: hope it helps07:41
sidizenanyone know how much Ubuntu takes up?07:41
lokiok thank you :)07:41
bluefrog-10apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx07:41
adjacentim feeling nice today, who else has questions?07:41
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jc-dentonok so the prob is that they changed the key or something07:41
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ddctraaks: just the same error, still inconsistent kallsyms data07:41
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jron_if i had some place to compile it i would do just that jack- =(07:42
marlunadjacent, but if I'm only going to create some web applications I should save my files in /var/www/webappname/ right?07:42
sidizencould i install ubuntu on a 5 gb hard drive?07:42
naliothjc-denton: it's a server side problem, not a problem with your box07:42
adjacentloki: thats how to find it, but also man apache or apache2 will tell you the file locations at the bottom of the page07:42
LazyAngelhow can i force my cdrom to eject without rebooting?07:42
liz4rdsidizenm, yes of course07:42
marlunadjacent, yes it helps, thanks =)07:42
adjacentmarlun: yes. and chown them to www-data07:42
clb_how do I set an environment variable... set ABC=value doesn't seem to work07:42
adrian_guys im so close to giving up on ubuntu :( it just froze and i cant do anything except move my mouse and watch what you say on xchat07:42
W0lFsidizen yep =)07:42
lokiok cool :)07:42
bluefrog-10now as u have fiddled with xorg.conf it may confuse nvidia and prevent it to rewrite the conf..07:42
sidizenliz4rd: how much space will ubuntu take up?07:42
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adjacentclb_: in bash do export var=value07:42
sidizeni don't want xubuntu or kubuntu, but ubuntu07:42
liz4rdsidizenm, like 2 gig07:42
clb_thank you07:42
marlunadjacent, don't know what chown is =) I'll have to learn some more before I start doing that I guess.07:42
adrian_somebody please help me :'(07:42
pierroanyone with sylpheed and bogofilter working (breezy) ? i can't make it so that bogofilter filters the arriving mails07:43
jc-dentonnalioth: ok07:43
traaksddc: hmm.. have u applied any third party patches or just compiling the pristine sources07:43
sidizenok07:43
adjacentmarlun: its easy, man is your best friend07:43
naliothubotu: tell marlun about cli07:43
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adrian_my computer froze and I could only move my mouse and watch what you say on irc, other than that, everything's frozen :(07:43
mike4263what language is the user creation script in?07:43
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LazyAngelnever mind07:43
ddctraaks: i was following the howto for hibernate207:43
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dduckoadrian_, what did you do beforehand?07:43
marlunnalioth, allready reading that :P07:43
adrian_nothing, clicking some menus and going online07:43
adrian_:'(07:44
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adrian_unless i locked it by accident, but i click the lock button and nothing happens07:44
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ddctraaks: but nothing in the topic mentions this problem07:44
adrian_how can I unlock my pc, just to make sure i didnt07:44
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traaksddc: see this link http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0508.3/1822.html07:44
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runedude3hey all, got a small problem07:44
kdudehello!07:44
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mike4263anybody know anything about the user creation script07:44
kdudecan somebody help me setup samba as a windows PDC?07:44
runedude3my top and bottom gnome bars are missing, and nothing i run fixes it :(07:44
mike4263i loved some parts of slack and hated others07:44
adjacentmike4263: you know all about it. use the source07:44
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traaksddc: i believe that this was a known problem in 2.6.13 and appears to be fixed in 2.6.1407:44
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adjacentmike4263: you have it on your computer, look it up ;)07:45
mike4263its bash right?07:45
mike4263hah, the install isnt done yet07:45
kdudeis there a good front-end for samba server?07:45
ddctraaks: already tried but got 13 out of 14 hunks failed when doing patch -p1 < patchfile07:45
adjacentmike4263:07:45
adjacentscott@logic:~/test$ file /usr/sbin/adduser07:46
adjacent/usr/sbin/adduser: perl script text executable07:46
runedude3my top and bottom gnome bars are missing, and nothing i run fixes it, any ideas guys?07:46
adrian_GUYS IM SO PISSED, my frickin computer froze, I mean, like, didn't freeze, I can move my mouse and see what you say on irc, but I cant go through menus, click icons, etc.07:46
ddcadrian_: reboot ? ;)07:46
adrian_:'(07:46
adjacentadrian_: hit alt-f207:46
adrian_ALT+F2 does what07:46
adjacentadrian_: and use alt-f7 to get back07:46
adrian_yeah reboot always works, but this have been happening07:46
mike4263adjacent, perl.... sweet07:46
andrownzabout DVDRIP : I've been trying almost everything for these last two hours, can't get it installed ! i'm first trying to install transcode, but it complains about many dependencies like libavifile-0.7c2 (>= 1:0.7.44.20051021-1) but it is not installable, etc .. what should I do?07:46
adrian_yeah but what does alt f2 do07:46
adjacentadrian_: goes to shell, alt f1 to apt-f6 are ttys07:46
bigfoot1somebody, help. No matter what I rename a file (its extension), ubuntu still thinks filetype is "HTML webpage." What's going on?07:46
adrian_oh07:46
adjacentadrian_: log in as root and killall gdm07:46
adrian_okay :)07:46
mike4263i'm gonna like this distro just fine :P07:46
adrian_you  mean sudo killall gdm07:46
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PJeremyuuuhm, just curious, how difficult is a reinstall of XP when ubuntu is already installed?07:46
adrian_and then what, just go back with ALT F7?07:47
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traaksddc: against what sources are you applying the patcg07:47
adjacentadrian_: yeh07:47
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adjacentadrian_: restart gdm07:47
traaksddc: *patch*07:47
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CarinArrpjeremy, it shouldn't be hard as such.. just you'll need to fix the mbr after07:47
adrian_okay wait07:47
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adrian_restart gdm, wtf07:47
adjacentadrian_: but i would look in /var/log/ to find out what crahsed and fix it first07:47
Deterministi hate business customers! ;/07:47
adrian_so i killall gdm07:47
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adrian_and then what07:47
PJeremyCarinArr: and i would do that how?07:47
adrian_killall gdm and then07:47
adrian_?07:47
dducko/etc/init.d/gdm start07:47
ddctraaks: linux-source-2.6.1207:47
dduckoor just startx07:48
adjacentadrian_: yeh. dducko said it07:48
adrian_oh right07:48
adrian_so killall gdm then startx07:48
BiZToRowhen i try to compile cpp file with g++ i get bounch of errors07:48
adrian_right?07:48
adjacentuse init script07:48
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adjacentadrian_: yeh. do it.07:48
adrian_uh, okay07:48
dduckobut look in your error first to find out what happened07:48
BioNikMoro07:48
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adrian_killall gdm then startx07:48
adrian_right?07:48
adjacentadrian_:07:48
dducko/etc/init.d/gdm start07:48
runedude3hm07:48
adrian_okay, so that instead of startx07:48
adjacentno. killall gdm;/etc/init.d/gdm start07:48
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runedude3what would killall gnome-session do?07:49
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adjacentadrian_: /etc/init.d/gdm restart might do it too07:49
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traaksddc: aah.. you'll need to apply the patch first to 2.6.13 and then to 2.6.14. and this needs to be done on the plain linux kernel 2.6.12 from kernel.org, not the ones that are installed with ubuntu as ubuntu would have applied its own set of patches07:49
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CarinArrpjeremy, this thread might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7665207:50
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adrian_man so much for linux being stable, ALT F2 isnt working07:50
PJeremyCarinArr: thanks07:50
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parktownprawnrunedude3: what does killall gnome-panel do?07:50
adjacentadrian_: try alt-f3 or alt-f407:50
adrian_you sure it's alt f207:50
adrian_okay07:50
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gardinprobably remove the gnome-panel?07:50
gardinclose*07:50
parktownprawnrunedude3: how did you get rid of the panels07:50
runedude3kills my panels, restarts them and doesnt put ANYTHING on them07:50
runedude3parktownprawn: i didnt, they locked up07:50
runedude3parktownprawn: so i just killed them07:51
CarinArradrian_, try ctrl+alt f207:51
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adjacentCarinArr: hahaha. right. doh!07:51
parktownprawnrunedude3: there is probably some panel-app which crashed which is stopping things starting again07:51
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runedude3parktownprawn: is there anyway to fix this?07:51
adrian_screw it i just frickin restarted, man im getting pissed, having to restart each time i boot up  cause it fucken crashes (sorry my lang), and all was going great too07:51
parktownprawnrunedude3: what happens if you type top?07:51
CarinArradjacent, heh, i actually had to try it to be sure07:51
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CarinArrdo it all the time but never pay much attention to how you do it07:51
durtcan i use greek letters in dia? if so, how?07:52
adrian_it ALWAYS somehow restarts07:52
runedude3er, top returns the top processes07:52
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adrian_it was some error in xauthorization or something, you guys were telling me how to fix it, how do you?07:52
CarinArradrian_, you'll want to look through error logs07:52
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andrownzanybody has gotten DVD::RIP working on Breezy ? I've parsed all documentations, can't get it working : dependencies problems like : "libavifile-0.7c2 (>= 1:0.7.44.20051021-1) but it is not installable", anyone can help ?07:52
parktownprawnrunedude3: is it taking a huge amount of processor07:52
runedude3nope07:53
CarinArradrian_, depends on what the error is07:53
kevogodandrownz, Yes.07:53
parktownprawnrunedude3: last resort = log out and log in of gnome07:53
andrownzkevogod, haven't had any problem?07:53
ddctraaks: mmh don't understand it, why patching .13 .14 kernels to get .12 kernel working? Shouldn't I use kernel .14 then?? sorry for the trouble07:53
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kevogodandrownz, Nope.07:53
runedude3parktownprawn: i dont want to do that07:53
andrownzkevogod, how did you proceed? I've tryied everything I think07:53
ancientHow can a config Ubuntu to broadcast a ip to a hub, so winblows can connect to the internet through a linux box as a router / server07:53
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kevogodandrownz, I made sure I had all of the correct codecs.07:53
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andrownzkevogod, I've installed them all07:54
traaksddc: otherwise disable the extra kallsyms pass in the kernel config07:54
parktownprawnrunedude3: well try ps faux | grep app07:54
tkupancient, you might want to read aboud dhcpd07:54
adrian_no, it's something with ext3, when I restarted, i got that 'ext3 cant read directory' error again07:54
andrownzkevogod, do you know how I could find a work around for this : "libavifile-0.7c2 (>= 1:0.7.44.20051021-1) but it is not installable"07:54
parktownprawnrunedude3: to see whats applets are still running - they may be preventing the panel from restarting07:54
ancientgot a link to dhcpd07:54
ddctraaks: what does kallsyms do btw?07:54
runedude3runedude 11131  0.0  1.8 122868  9516 ?        S    Nov10   0:35 /usr/lib/gnome-panel/wnck-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Wncklet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=3107:54
runedude3er07:54
adrian_I dont know if I should reinstall or try another distro, but I really love ubuntu...it's just that it crashes like crazy07:54
traaksddc: no idea :P07:55
runedude3and mapping-daemon and amarokapp07:55
parktownprawnrunedude3: kill wnck-applet07:55
parktownprawnrunedude3: kill the wnck-applet07:55
runedude3ooh07:55
runedude3everything just reappeared07:55
parktownprawnrunedude3: did you try start mathematica by any chance?07:55
runedude3thanks mate07:55
runedude3naw07:55
CarinArradrian_, if it's crashing because of ext3 errors i doubt it's ubuntu causing the problem07:55
runedude3havent been doing anything .. last thing i remember is amarok crashing so i force quit'ed on it07:55
runedude3then my taskbar failed07:55
Secreth`XHmm, if you run a program in wine, and ask the OS, it says windows 98, can this be correct?07:56
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parktownprawnrunedude3: ok some apps don't play nicely with wnck-applet07:56
runedude3parktownprawn: well atleast it works now, tyvm :)07:56
adjacentk. one more question and im out. who has one?07:56
parktownprawnrunedude3: sure07:56
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ddcadjacent: do you know something about kallsyms.c problems07:57
adjacentddc: not unless you tell me what problem it is?07:57
adjacentack. i mean, not unless you tell me the problem.07:57
adrian_since I was getting ext3 errors, what formatting should I choose07:58
ddcadjacent: when trying to recompile my kernel i got this error:Inconsistent kallsyms data07:58
ddcTry setting CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS07:58
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adjacentddc: did you set that config var and retry? ;)07:58
adrian_should I choose ext3 again? it caused problems right now (as you know), how bout reiserfs?07:58
ddcadjacent: can i set the var by just editing .config?07:59
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adjacentddc: i imagine it can be set with xconfig, let me check07:59
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adjacentadrian_: use ext3, imho.07:59
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naliothadrian_: stick with ext2 or 307:59
adrian_okay, I just hope it doesnt frickin give me problems again08:00
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ddcadjacent: # "CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS is not set"  just remove the # and the is not set probably?08:00
adrian_oh yeah now it kicks me, that took a while08:00
shawn_hey my livecd just got all frozen up, and i dont feel like restarting.. what can i do to bring it back (the mouse is responsive and doing a wait animation, but wont click)08:00
CarinArradrian_, if you try formatting it and reinstalling ubuntu and still have problems i would say it's the drive causing the problem not the filesystem08:00
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adjacentadrian_: your HD is probably dying. buy a new one. they are cheap08:00
adrian_I understand08:00
adrian_thanks08:01
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rayenHi, how do I extract a ' cpkg ' ?08:01
adrian_you mean a dpkg ?08:01
naliothadrian_: if you want to check your HD, get a livecd and install "smartmontools" on it. then run smartctl in a console08:01
rayenno, cpkg08:01
adrian_oh08:01
tobi-wanshawn_: i don't know the livecd, but you could try restarting gdm via console08:01
traaksBRB08:01
adrian_how can I install something on a livecd...08:01
shawn_i dont have a console at hand08:01
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shawn_sshd isnt on08:02
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v-doggevening08:02
naliothadrian_: same way you do it on a regular install. apt-get or synaptic08:02
shawn_i think i need some keyboard shortcuts to restart x or something of the sort08:02
adrian_yeah, where would it install to08:02
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shawn_adrian_, if you right click on any package in synaptic it gives you a list of the installed files08:02
shawn_adrian_, under properties08:02
tobi-wanshawn_: as said, i don't know the livecd, but does strg+alt+F1-5 not give you a commandline08:02
v-doggsimple question: does Ubuntu ship with KDE? ie. can I install it with KDE (easily :)08:03
shawn_tobi-wan, strg+alt ? whats strg?08:03
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CarinArrv-dogg, try kubuntu08:03
CarinArror alternatively you can easily install kde through synaptic08:04
shawn_tobi-wan, it seems that either gnome or metacity or something isn't down with letting me do anything, something is froze up, and i think it's just my music player08:04
v-doggyet another distribution :)08:04
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CarinArrv-dogg, well it's practically the same as regular ubuntu, it's just replaced gnome with kde08:05
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tobi-wanshawn_: oh sorry, man. i meant ctrl-alt :-)08:05
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shawn_heh no, that doesn't do anything either08:05
tobi-wanshawn_: obviously, i am from a german-speaking country :-)08:05
adri_I'm reinstalling08:05
v-doggI'll give it a try08:05
v-doggthanks CarinArr08:05
adri_what does it mean when you choose 'ERASE ENTIRE HARD DISK AND USE LVM'08:06
adri_what's lvm08:06
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naliothadrian_: logical volume manager08:06
tobi-wanshawn_: well.... does the kbd react at all? because if not, you are bound to reboot, i guess08:06
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adri_nalioth: what does it do08:06
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shawn_tobi-wan, ahhh shit i just checked the lights, nope08:06
naliothadri_: it takes all your HDs and makes one apparent volume from them08:06
shawn_=x08:06
adri_o.0 oh08:07
adri_okay it's installing base system now08:07
shawn_sigh, that's the second time my livecd's crashed.08:08
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parktownprawnrayen: cpkg = CoolPackager ?08:08
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v-doggthere's no (k)ubuntu mini-cd available, is there?08:09
rayenparktownprawn, probably, i tryed to unzip the .tar.gz of Cool Packager, but it didn't work..08:09
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robotgeekrayen: how were you trying ?08:10
trappistand define "didn't work"08:10
parktownprawnrayen: cool packager is meant to create self-extracting executable scripts (according to sourceforge)08:10
parktownprawnrayen: so i guess you should just type ./name_of_file.cpkg08:11
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parktownprawnrayen: what do you want to install?08:12
rayenparktownprawn,  cedega engine08:12
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rayenparktownprawn, bash: ./cedega-.... : permission denied08:12
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parktownprawnrayen: i think there are probably better ways to install cedega08:13
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parktownprawnrayen: for what its worth you could try : chmod u+x file.cpkg08:14
parktownprawnrayen: then ./file.cpkg (but i'm just guessing)08:14
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Secreth`XIs there somewhere where you can get Cedega for free? I'm tired of wine.08:14
Pierohi everyone08:14
rayenparktownprawn, i fixed it already (tar -xvf *.cpkg) :)08:14
Pierowhere can I find a good howto for recompiling kernel?08:15
Gary_IIIhi :)08:15
parktownprawnrayen: great08:15
trappistPiero: google for 'kernel howto'08:15
trappistSecreth`X: you can get it via cvs from transgaming.com08:15
Secreth`Xtrappist, ok ill try08:15
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XLRhi all08:17
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traaksback08:17
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sedatchi all08:18
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sedatcI have a question08:18
mike4263hey08:18
mike4263i just installed ubuntu08:18
mike4263and now after it does its bootup i just see a _08:19
traakssedatc: ask away08:19
mike4263it hangs there08:19
sedatcI am using totem and I realized that sound coming 1 sec after video08:19
Secreth`Xtrappist, is it this?: http://www.transgaming.com/sources.php08:19
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trappistSecreth`X: yes08:20
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sedatcI think it is about codecs which should I use08:20
mipsHi08:20
Secreth`Xok trappist08:20
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mipsAnybody know where the developers hang out ?08:20
blackvdhow do access Ubuntus control center?08:20
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sedatchey08:21
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sedatcwhy sound coming 1 sec after from video08:22
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blackvdnobody knows the command for Ubuntus Control Center?08:22
Gary_IIIi havnt had any luck getting totem to work ... xmms works08:22
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soundrayblackvd, all the settings are in System-Administration and System-Preferences.08:23
blackvdyeah I'm running fluxbox, so I need the commands08:23
soundrayblackvd, the settings are all controlled through individual programs.08:24
soundrayblackvd: E.g. Keyboard Preferences is gnome-keyboard-properties08:25
blackvdoh08:25
blackvdhm08:25
blackvdbut if I run gnome prgs my system goes apes08:25
blackvdtrying to set my screen res08:26
blackvdso there no main cc?08:26
blackvdthats weird08:26
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soundrayblackvd: it's just a way of doing things.08:26
blackvdwhat if you dont have gnome or kde?08:26
N1omii'm getting a 'timestamp too far in the future' error08:26
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blackvdwhat would you do?08:26
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N1omiblackvd: then you use another GUI or BASH08:27
soundrayblackvd: screen res is best set through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, anyway.08:27
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Gary_IIISystem/Preferences/screen resolution in gnome desktop , blackvd08:28
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OMFGFTSIs it possible to fix a WinXP MBR from within linux ?08:29
trappistif by "fix" you mean "replace with grub", yest08:29
trappist*yes08:29
Jeltehi there... just installed breezy on my second laptop. The screen is a little shifted vertically... using xvidtune i can get it right, but how do i get those values in xorg.conf?  i've tried just putting the VertRefresh in xorg.conf, but that didn't seem to do much (its still shifted when i restart X)08:29
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OMFGFTStrappist, Ubuntu grub has _royally_ be messing up. How can I do this08:30
soundrayblackvd: what happens if you call gnome-display-properties?08:30
OMFGFTS*been08:30
DeterministOMFGFTS, you can use the repair console using the winxp cd to fix the winxp mbr, it all depends on what you want done08:30
Secreth`Xtrappist, aint working for me :x08:30
blackvdit works08:30
blackvdawesome thanks08:30
soundrayblackvd, problem solved?08:30
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soundrayblackvd, great.08:31
blackvdnot sure yet08:31
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OMFGFTSAs of every one of the last _3_ times I've installed Ubuntu it has a) failed to boot Ubuntu b)failed to boot WinXP _from the menu_.08:31
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blackvdcasues the prob I'm having is when I log out then in08:31
OMFGFTS<- not my first linux distro.08:31
blackvd*cause08:31
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blackvdreverts back to 1280 instead of 102408:31
DeterministOMFGFTS, most of the time it's winxp corrupting grub, btw... had that problem myself. had to do something with the way winxp expects partitions to be managed08:31
soundrayblackvd, that is where the command above comes in:08:31
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OMFGFTSDeterminist, I know what you mean.08:32
ubuntuhello08:32
soundraydpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:32
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ubuntuwhat is the password for an ubuntu live cd distribution?08:32
nickelhow do i enable my sshd ?08:32
Deterministclear08:32
ubuntui ask for the default root password08:32
Deterministerm08:32
nickelim a noob and i cant figure out how08:32
blackvdyeah I edited my xorg.conf file manually but it didnt help me out08:32
soundray!tell ubuntu about root08:32
traaksnickel: /etc/init.d/ssh start08:32
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soundrayblackvd: Could you paste your xorg.conf to pastebin pls08:33
zdennis_hey all08:33
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erikstihey, I'm getting FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper, operation not permitted, when I try to do "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper".. anyone familiar with the problem?08:33
zdennis_i am trying to mount my usb flash drive08:33
nickelim in the GUI and cant find the terminal ;x08:33
zdennis_but i do not have a /dev/sda  or /dev/sd*  anything08:33
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blackvdhow do you do that?08:34
zdennis_any idears?08:34
nickelApplications > System Tools08:34
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nickeltheres no terminal08:34
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soundray!tell blackvd about pastebin08:34
trappistnickel: sudo modprobe usb-storage08:34
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soundrayblackvd: you should get a message from ubotu08:34
trappistzdennis_: actually, first of all, are you running a homebrew kernel or an ubuntu kernel?08:34
traaksnickel: applications-> accessories->terminal08:34
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zdennis_trappist ubuntu kernel08:34
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blackvdnope, but I'm using a terminal irc client right now08:35
nickelfound it thanks traaks08:35
blackvdI can switch to xchat08:35
trappistzdennis_: also run dmesg and see if there's anything interesting near the end08:35
nickelif i install software via terminal, will it have a GUI to it?08:35
zdennis_trappist,   "[4304239.605000]  scsi: unknown opcode 0x0108:35
zdennis_"08:35
zdennis_does that count as interesting?08:35
soundrayblackvd: you can paste stuff via http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl and quote the url here.08:36
trappistnot by itself, at least to me08:36
CarlFKnickel: yes.08:36
blackvdok08:36
adri_im installing the updates08:36
adri_man that takes forever08:36
zdennis_i get a bunch of ohci1394 timeouts from dmesg to08:36
CarlFKnickel:, well, maybe.  how you install it does not effect what gets installed.08:36
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blackvdhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/437008:37
nickel/etc/init.d/ssh doesnt exist08:37
nickelhow can i install an sshd so i can access this comp remotely from a shell08:37
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naliothnickel: apt-get install ssh08:37
nickelsorry about all the questoins, im new to linux and am hoping to learn ;] 08:37
CarlFKnickel: sudo apt-get install openssh-server08:37
trappistbah.08:38
trappistnickel: sudo apt-get install openssh-server08:38
ddchow can i make a initrd for my kernel because I get kernel panic when trying to boot --> not syncing:vfs:unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)08:38
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trappistddc: I can't wait to hear the answer to your question.08:38
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trappistI've asked it here before.08:38
nickelis there a website with a list of things i can APT-GET ?08:38
ddcI think that is has sonething to do with, not certain08:38
ddcah ok, lets hope someone knows it :D08:38
nickeli can APT-GET apache w/ php im presuming08:39
naliothnickel: packages.ubuntu.com08:39
nickelthx nalioth08:39
naliothnickel: or use synaptic08:39
CarlFKnickel: http://packages.ubuntu.com08:39
runedude3nickel: yes, do apt-get install php5 (or php4) to instlal the php + apache webserver08:39
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ddcmaybe i just recompile my kernel using the make-kpkg because there is a initrd option08:39
trappistddc: ubuntu lacks a call to mkinitrd in its kernel building script08:39
marlunWhen adding options to commands is the "-" not required?08:40
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trappistmarlun: depends on the command08:40
runedude3marlun: what command?08:40
trappistmarlun: with tar, - is optional and not recommended, for example08:41
marlunhehe08:41
CarlFKtrying to replace a Win server that does file and fax with a Linux box.  samba will take care of the file server.  any recomendations on how to replace the fax server part so that windows clients can "Print to fax"08:41
marlunthats the command in the example I saw it on and started to wonder.08:41
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nickelwhats the difference between all these packages - theres warty, hoary, breezy08:41
soundrayblackvd: you are using this xorg.conf, and you're still getting 1280x1024?08:41
nickelhow do i know which list to look through, im using ubuntu 5.1008:42
runedude3yea, - would input data from stdin or something, but generally commands will run w/o - stuff.08:42
trappistmarlun: - is specific to GNU tar and is not POSIX compliant.  don't get in the habit of using the - or you'll find yourself on a bsd or solaris box and wonder why stuff doesn't work.08:42
blackvdum how do I know if I'm using it or not?08:42
blackvdshould always use it right?08:42
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bluehead:o08:42
soundrayblackvd: is X running right now?08:43
marluntrappist, oh, but on the normal commands like ls, rm, etc I should/have to use it?08:43
blackvdisnt it always?08:43
trappistmarlun: yep08:43
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trappistmarlun: and with other commands like ps, sometimes you use a - and sometimes you don't08:43
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duke3zHi Have video ??  have gforce card,  should i use IA32 driver or IA64??08:43
duke3zon Ubuntu08:44
marluntrappist, hehe okey08:44
soundrayblackvd, no, but don't worry. if you do a 'ls -lrt /var/log/X*log', how many lines do you get?08:44
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runedude3duke3z: one should be for 32bit, one should be efor 64bit, what bit are you using (if you dont know choose 32)08:44
Nytryxwill ubuntu run with 96mb of ram lol08:44
trappistduke3z: you'd probably know if you needed IA64 - unless you have a 64 bit box, get IA3208:44
runedude3Nytryx: yes.08:44
runedude3It should.08:44
soundraysoundray *lines of output08:44
Nytryxjust extreamly slow?08:44
runedude3Nytryx: naw, shouldnt be really.. i mean it wouldnt run as well, just make sure you have a good amount of swap08:44
duke3zrundude, thnaks  have amd64 processors but standard ubuntu08:44
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trappistNytryx: if you use a lightweight window manager it should run pretty nicely08:45
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Nytryxhumm08:45
trappistduke3z: IA32 then08:45
Nytryxthank you08:45
runedude3duke3z: amd64 is a different platform (supports the intel and amd 64bit arch)08:45
duke3zkewl thanks alot guys.08:45
runedude3yw08:45
blackvd208:45
duke3zi got cedega working and Cod installed :)08:45
blueheadHi! totem can't play mpeg movies! Wich packet should I install?08:45
runedude3nice08:45
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runedude3Anyone suggest any programs for downloading from mms streams? :-)08:46
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cute_bettonghey is anyone here an irssi guru08:46
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runedude3cute_bettong: sure, i can try to help you. whats up?08:46
Secreth`XIf you need to install a .deb package you need to do dpkg -i name, right?08:47
cute_bettongok i am haveing problems with colours and auto identifying and connecting08:47
cute_bettongi am a first time user08:47
runedude3Secreth`X: affirmative.08:47
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CarlFKrunedude3: dl as in save, or play?08:47
Secreth`Xrunedude, kthx08:47
runedude3CarlFK: Save.08:47
cute_bettongand the www.irssi.org is kinda confusing08:47
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CarlFKrunedude3: mplayer -dumpstreem08:47
bluehead Hi! totem can't play mpeg movies! Which packet should I install?08:47
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runedude3cute_bettong: hm.. colours.. make sure your shell type supports colours, /connect would "connect" to the server (allows multiple servers)08:48
CarlFKrunedude3: I have heard of streamrip or streamripper - I think I even used it once08:48
runedude3as for auto identify, i dont know08:48
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blackvdbluehead why not use mplayer or vlc?08:48
runedude3CarlFK: hm.. ill try that.08:48
soundrayblackvd: do they have Xorg or XFree in them?08:48
runedude3thanks08:48
blackvdXorg08:48
blueheadblackvd I'll try thanx08:49
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KnowerrorsHey all, Firefox stopped working for me, where can I find the log that would show errors for it?08:49
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cute_bettongthis irssi is really neat08:49
trappistKnowerrors: afaik firefox doesn't log.  I might be able to help further, but the fact that it's not working is insufficient information.08:49
trappist<3 irssi08:50
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cute_bettongit's the first time i am useing it but it's kinda confusing to set uo and stuff08:50
trappistcute_bettong: it takes some time to get set up just right, but it'll all be worth it in the chatting years to come08:50
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runedude3Knowerrors: try dmesg08:50
TestDummyEr, I've been trying to compile X-Chat 2.6.0 (I'd rather not stick with the outdated default), installed build-essential, grabbed the source, but it won't even work.08:50
runedude3hmm uh oh08:50
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TestDummyWhy must compiling be such a pain?08:50
Knowerrorstrappist: I click on the Firefox icon, and icon blinks like its starting up, then nothing, no FF window08:50
runedude3i keep getting this message every once in awhile "ldconfig: /lib/libXext.so.6 is not a symbolic link"08:51
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runedude3TestDummy: use *.deb files, dont compile :-)08:51
AgrajagTestDummy: did you also get all of the development packages that xchat needs?08:51
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soundrayblackvd: Could you paste the contents of Xorg.0.log to pastebin.08:51
trappistKnowerrors: sudo killall firefox-bin on the command line.  there's probably a busticated instance still running.08:51
TestDummySure.08:51
blackvdok08:51
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trappistKnowerrors: if that doesn't work, run mozilla-firefox from the command line and see if you get errors there.08:51
TestDummyThe configure step goes by just fine.08:51
nickeltheres different types of packages, warty, hoary and stuff -- im on ubuntu 5.10 which packages best suit my version of ubuntu08:51
TestDummyBut make just dies instantly with errors.08:51
nickel;x08:51
trappistrunedude3: you can ignore that08:52
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runedude3trappist: yes, but whats it about?08:52
TestDummyAnd I wasn't too aware they had a .deb for it, haven't bothered to look.08:52
blueheadwell, in my respositories doesnt figure mplayer08:52
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trappistrunedude3: it expects that lib to be a symlink to another file, but it's the file itself, and ld is a little surprised.08:52
runedude3ah08:52
runedude3alright08:52
runedude3ty08:52
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TestDummyHm, didn't they switch to GCC 4.0 or something in Breezy?08:53
Agrajagyes08:53
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AgrajagDid you try gcc3.4?08:53
Knowerrorsmozilla-firefox INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory? System error?:: Success08:53
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Agrajagit's still available as a separate package08:53
ryanpghi all... two questions, 1) is xorg RC1 or RC2 in dapper and 2) if so can those packages be used with breezy?08:53
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TestDummyWell, I don't know what's up. I'd actually prefer get compiling to work.08:53
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TestDummy(Because there are other things I use that don't have a packaged alternative)08:53
blackvdsays a whole lot, any particular lines to copy & paste08:53
Agrajagok, so, try gcc3.408:54
trappistKnowerrors: haha never seen that one.  I have no idea.  you might try #firefox on irc.mozilla.org08:54
blackvdbluehead go with vlc it plays bin/cue files!08:54
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trappistTestDummy: what sort of errors08:54
Knowerrorsonly thing Ive changed since it was working, is installed the java-mozilla plugin08:54
trappistKnowerrors: try deleting the plugin08:54
cute_bettongyea i like this irssi it dosen't give you crap to play with08:54
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cute_bettongand you can seemingly tweak what you want08:54
trappistKnowerrors: it would be in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins08:54
adjacentanyone else have a p[roblem with some flash objects freezing at 1 sec? things like google video are useless. what could this be?08:55
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TestDummyI would remove it if it didn't want to take the whole system down with it!08:55
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soundrayblackvd, no point skimping, that's what pastebin is for.08:55
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blueheadOugh! can you post here some repositories, I have vlc, but it seems that not all the dependencies08:55
AgrajagTestDummy: remove what?08:55
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cute_bettongnow i just have to figure out what to type to close windows i don't need08:55
TestDummytrappist: Says stuff like "error 1" and "error 2" after entering directories.08:55
trappistadjacent: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree08:55
zepeugawhats the package to install streamer to play mp3 ?!08:55
trappistTestDummy: try the pastebin (topic)08:56
runedude3cute_bettong: /window close08:56
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trappistcute_bettong: or /win close08:56
Agrajagor /win close <number>08:56
cute_bettongand change the font colour for the people that say my name it's an ugly harsh yellow >.<08:56
adjacenttrappist: i have it08:56
blackvdhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/437108:56
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TestDummyGah..08:57
adjacentii  flashplugin-nonfree                   7.0.25-5                             Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer08:57
adjacentrc  libflash0                             0.4.11-2                             GPL Flash (SWF) Library - shared library08:57
ryanpghmm... perhaps if I rephrase my question: is anyone here running xorg RC1 or RC2 on breezy and if so how?08:57
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TestDummyI can't even see half the topic, it's so long.08:57
liz4rdbluefrog-10!08:57
trappistTestDummy: /topic08:57
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bluefrog-10liz4rd, crossed fingers worked?08:57
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liz4rdbluefrog-10, no08:57
bluefrog-10ah sad08:57
liz4rdgo to our own window08:57
zepeugawhats the package to install streamer to play mp3 ?!08:57
CzarAlexwhat are some interesting things I can install on my ubuntu based webserver that use mysql/php?08:58
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TestDummyBleh, this isn't working out.08:58
liz4rdbluefrog-10, why do i have to modprobe?08:58
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ashtoniumCzarAlex: check out Drupal08:58
Drauconanyone still having the gpg error when doing apt-get update08:58
blueheadHi! can yu give me some repositories form the vlc and its dependencies?08:58
bluefrog-10to load nvidia driver otherwise u need to reboot08:58
Knowerrorstrappist: I found this in an ubu wiki on firefox "This was due to a wrong java plugin link."08:58
TestDummyBesides me flodding some place with silly error messags, any other ideas?08:58
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liz4rdbluefrog-10, should i reboot?08:59
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runedude3CzarAlex: www.hotscripts.com or www.sf.net -- search for stuff there, have fun, a starter would be phpsysinfo (http://phpsysinfo.sf.net)08:59
joshholtI have been trying to get Xdmcp to work on Kubuntu but I can't find the "Xservers" file that is usually in "/etc/kde3/kdm/" to get rid of the line that starts the X server with "--nolisten tcp"08:59
cute_bettonglinux= rebooting is for adding hardware08:59
bluefrog-10liz4rd, try if still not good go back to #liz4rd08:59
adjacentCzarAlex: cacti - www.cacti.net08:59
CzarAlexDraucon, thanks. im checking the site out now.08:59
blackvdbluehead dont they have a new .deb package on videolan.org?08:59
AgrajagTestDummy: Did you try using gcc34.?08:59
ryanpghmm... three times the charm (and my limit for now) is there an IRC channel/web site/repository with information about installing xorg RC1/RC2 that someone could offer me?08:59
CzarAlexrunedude3, thanks, I`ll visit the site.08:59
Agrajaga lot of stuff just doesn't work well with gcc4 yet08:59
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runedude3CzarAlex: yw08:59
TestDummyI would be if removing Gcc40 whatever didn't try and remove every program.08:59
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CzarAlexadjacent, thank you.09:00
AgrajagWhy would you want to remove gcc4?09:00
Agrajaginstall gcc3.409:00
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TestDummyBecause I'd assume they would conflict?09:00
kbrooksgcc* can be installed concurrently09:00
Agrajagand tell configure/make to use /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 as your compiler09:00
AgrajagTestDummy: no...09:00
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kbrooksTestDummy:09:00
kbrooksgcc* can be installed concurrently09:00
blueheadblackvd I'll look for it, I have vlc in synaptic but some dependencies fail :S09:00
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n0odl3i have a question... why does the GAIM login screen pop up as soon as i log in?09:00
Agrajagusually all you really have to do is something like CC=/usr/bingcc-3.4 make09:00
Agrajager09:01
kbrooksAgrajag: /09:01
Agrajagusually all you really have to do is something like CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 make09:01
Agrajagyeah09:01
ashtoniumok, trying to install nvidia display drivers... how do i shut down the xserver?09:01
n0odl3this only occurs in xfce09:01
Agrajaglay off, this keyboard blows09:01
PJeremydoes anyone know a n64 emulator as good as project64?09:01
bluefrog-10TestDummy, if you need to compile with gcc lower then 4 u need to export the other gcc09:01
TestDummy?09:01
blackvdbluehead: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/09:01
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n0odl3does anyone know09:02
TestDummySame old stuff.09:02
bluefrog-10TestDummy,  export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.409:02
soundrayblackvd: you need to disable tiling mode. I'm sure there is an option, but I don't know what it is.09:02
bluefrog-10or whatever gcc u have09:02
AgrajagTestDummy: also, check the Makefile, CC might be set there, and you can change it09:02
trappistor use update-alternatives09:02
ryanpggrr... I'll ask again later I guess, hopefully someone "in the know" will be around ;)09:02
TestDummyThis isn't working.09:02
blackvdin my xorg.conf?09:02
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blueheadblackvd thanks! yhuuu09:02
Aleksyo09:03
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blackvdnp09:03
Alekshow can i get access to my windows partitions?09:03
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Knowerrorstrappist: which ns file should I link to in the /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/i386/ ?09:03
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Aleks#reg09:03
Aleks!ref09:03
ubotuAleks: Wish i knew09:03
Aleks!reg09:03
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Aleks09:03
TestDummyNot seeing much about GCC in the makefile.09:04
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TestDummyBut, then again, I really have no clue what I'm looking for.09:04
ashtoniumi can see my NTFS windows drive, but ubuntu says its "inacessible"09:04
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AgrajagYou're looking for where it sets the value of CC09:04
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trappistKnowerrors: libjavaplugin_oji.so09:04
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TestDummyJust says: "CC = @CC@"09:05
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AleksAny one here who know how i can access my fucking windows partitions from ubuntu breezy?09:05
Agrajagwell change that to /usr/bin/gcc3.409:05
Agrajager09:05
Agrajag/usr/bin/gcc-3.409:05
Knowerrorstheres one in ns610 and one in ns610-gcc32, which one?09:05
TestDummyDoes it have to have @ surrounding it?09:06
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Agrajagno09:06
soundrayblackvd: try adding a line "Virtual 1024 768" to the Device section of your xorg.conf09:06
n0odl3does anyone know how to stop GAIM from automatically starting in xfce?09:06
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adri_can ubuntu be used as server09:06
Myrtti/me takes a large hammer and tries to fix gdesklets.09:06
bluefrog-10aleks, because u don't talk nice to them...09:06
blueheadblackvd I've put de repositories in sources.list but it ignores them! Its because it is sarge and i have ubuntu? what can i do?09:07
adri_Myrtti: what's wrong?09:07
ashtoniumadri: install with the command "server"09:07
adri_O M G09:07
TestDummyMake still doesn't work.09:07
Myrttiapparently it crashes all the time09:07
Alekssorry then09:07
adri_I already frickin installed09:07
adri_it's installing updates09:07
bluefrog-10adri_, just use it as a server from there09:07
adri_what's the difference09:07
ashtoniumthats ok, just wait and then blow it away09:07
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BlueEagleadri_: Most likely security patches.09:08
greenfrog-10ah okay09:08
Myrttinow its running down there someplace and I can't kill it09:08
Knowerrorstrappist: theres one in ns610 and one in ns610-gcc32, which one?09:08
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blank:D09:08
blanknooo someone took my nick :'(09:08
AgrajagTestDummy: also, what dev packages did you install to compile this?09:08
Myrtti*smashsmash* with kill -909:08
n0odl3does anyone know how to fix my problem?09:08
Aleksbut shall i have free disk space at my disk and a partition to ubuntu?09:08
blankAgrajag: Dev-cpp works in linux?09:08
soundrayblackvd, then restart your display manager09:08
soundrayAleks, language09:08
TestDummyJust the dev for GTK to work with it.09:08
Agrajagjust because configure finishes doesn't mean the program will build09:08
Aleksnorwegian09:08
Agrajagblank: what?09:08
trappistKnowerrors: oh - I'm not sure.  probably the gcc32 one.09:08
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ashtoniumit doens't install the GUI09:08
TestDummyThat's all I needed last time I compiled it.09:08
AgrajagTestDummy: what about perl?09:08
ashtoniumor rather, only minial GUI09:08
Alekssoundray, norwegian09:08
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TestDummyI don't know Perl.09:09
Agrajagthat doesn't matter09:09
n0odl3does anyone know?09:09
TestDummyI don't use Perl scripts either.09:09
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AgrajagThat doesn't matter.09:09
AgrajagIf you just ran through configure, it'll try to build the perl plugin09:10
TestDummyI didn't install the dev for it last time, and it still worked.09:10
soundrayAleks: it was an admonition. What filesystem type do you use in f...ing Windows?09:10
Alekssoundray, NTFS09:10
Agrajagok, I'm running through the build right now09:10
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adjacentn0odl3: gaim is in your gnome session09:10
Agrajagand it failed09:10
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AgrajagI'm going to install perl-dev09:10
adjacentn0odl3: or in your start up list09:10
Alekssoundray, I have 2 partitions in NTFS09:10
Agrajagor not09:10
Agrajaghm, what's the package name09:10
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Alekssoundray, and one i EXT.....09:10
adjacentn0odl3: use System->Prefs->Sessions09:10
soundray!tell Aleks about ntfs09:10
Alekssoundray, but must i have free space too?09:11
soundrayAleks, I think ubotu will send you a knowledgeable message.09:11
Agrajagah, libperl-dev09:11
rob^^^is ntpdate the best method for setting up auto sync of the clock?09:11
rob^^^it doesn't seem to place any crontab entries09:11
soundrayAleks, no you don't need free space if you have all the OS's you want on your system.09:11
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soundrayblackvd, does it work now?09:12
adjacentrob^^^: ntpdata is usally run during the boot sequence09:12
nickrudrob^^^, ntp-simple is good for workstations09:12
blackvdoh sorry havent tried yet09:12
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n0odl3adjacent: so i hae to turn it of in gnome so it wont start up in xfce?09:12
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rob^^^nickrud: that wants to install ntp-server as well09:13
n0odl3adjacent: but this ONLY happens in xfce... when i use OPENBOX it doesnt start up automatically09:13
blackvdso are you saying add virtual in front of the "1024 768" in the mode line09:13
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rob^^^my clock has wandered like 20 minutes in 179 days09:13
adjacentwell. specifying your WM would have been a better way to find some help. how are we supposed to know you arent in gnome?09:13
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Nytryxok now im really pissed!09:13
blackvdbluehead are you using synaptic?09:14
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Nytryxi downloaded the breezy and i still get cant find package whin i try to install xfce09:14
soundrayblackvd: no, add an extra line in Section "Device"09:14
Razor-Xdoes anyone have any ideas why xsel seems to work in a term but not when i'm telling ratpoison to execute a script that should work?09:14
n0odl3adjacent:?09:14
huttanHello, I just installed ubuntu breezy and it seems impossible to get it to detect my netgear wg511t card, I have installed the correct package for madwifi drivers, but still there is no sign of it, does anybody know how to fix this?09:14
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NytryxWTF amd i doing wrong?09:14
blueheadblackvd yes09:14
blueheadthen I tried to do what at videolan say09:14
soundrayblackvd, under Driver "i810",09:14
Razor-Xthe script works (it has xsel in it) if I call it from a term, but in ratpoison, it simply clears the primary clip buffer09:14
TestDummyWell, looks like adding that Perl dev didn't do anything.09:14
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huttanMy friend did the exact same thing on his laptop 1 hour ago and he found it instantly, but on my laptop it won't work09:14
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nickrudrob^^^, it's a pretty lightweight version; you could also look at chrony, or creating your own crontab entry :)09:15
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blueheadapt-get update09:15
estershi there09:15
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blueheadbut09:15
rob^^^nickrud: well chrony wants to remove ubuntu-base09:15
soundrayblackvd it should say "Virtual 1024 768" without any quotes.09:15
estersi have an serious problem09:15
esterscould you help me09:15
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blueheadthrows Ign http://download.videolan.org sarge/main Packages09:15
blueheadIgn http://download.videolan.org sarge/main Sources09:15
esters/etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 044009:15
estershow do i fix it ?09:15
estersplease anyone09:15
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WildZeckesters,09:16
soundrayesters: sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers ?09:16
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trappistesters: sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers09:16
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blueheadand then I search for vlc and it can't find it09:16
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WildZecksudo chmod 0440 /etc/suduers09:16
estersou09:16
trappistesters: wtf did you do to make sudoers 77709:16
esters:)09:16
WildZeckesters, sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers09:16
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esterspermmision change09:16
blackvdsoundray: so like this; Driver"i810" Virtual 1024 76809:16
trappistesters: tell me you didn't do it recursively on /etc09:16
nickrudrob^^^, I didn't realize chrony conflicted with ntpdate. I'm not sure why.09:17
trappistif so your life is forfeit09:17
soundrayblackvd: Except that you want an extra line for it.09:17
Knowerrorstrappist... fixed it by changing the java plugin link09:17
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rob^^^nickrud: well I added my crontab entry ;)09:17
trappistKnowerrors: cool09:17
Nytryxyou know what fuck it and fuck this irc09:17
blankis there anything like visual studio on linux, besides eclipse09:17
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huttanHello, I just installed ubuntu breezy and it seems impossible to get it to detect my netgear wg511t card, I have installed the correct package for madwifi drivers, but still there is no sign of it, does anybody know how to fix this? My friend did the exact same thing on his laptop 1 hour ago and he found it instantly, but on my laptop it won't work09:17
delire..09:17
Aleksaleks@AlX-Ubuntu:~$ chmod u+x winmac_fstab09:18
Aleksaleks@AlX-Ubuntu:~$ sudo ./winmac_fstab09:18
AleksBy default the disks will be writable only by root and09:18
AleksAleksander Insteb (aleks)09:18
AleksDo you want to make the disk writable by all users instead? (y/n)09:18
Aleksy09:18
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Alekserror: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_8_109:18
AleksIgnoring /dev/sda1 - already in /etc/fstab09:18
Alekserror: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_8_309:18
blankUSE PASTEBIN09:18
AleksIgnoring /dev/sda3 - already in /etc/fstab09:18
blackvdok the only way to test it is to logg out then in again09:18
trappistAleks: don't paste here09:18
soundrayOh Nytryx, the sound of frustration...09:18
AleksNo usable windows/mac partitions found09:18
blankSHUTUP09:18
blankSHUTUP09:18
AleksAny who can help me?09:18
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Aleksoh, sorry09:18
blankno, until you use pastebin09:18
Aleksi'm new here...09:18
blank!ubotu pastebin09:18
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:18
blankdo what ubotu says09:18
blankhe's the master09:19
rob^^^obey the bot!09:19
soundrayblackvd, you could start a separate X server for testing from a console.09:19
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blackvdbluehead: in synaptic>settings>repositories everything xed09:19
TestDummyBleh, no luck at all with this compile.09:19
TestDummyForget it..09:19
blackvdsoundray: hows that?09:19
blankaleks, post your stuff in pastebin, then give us the link it gives you :)09:19
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blackvdsoundray: jump out with ctrl+alt+F1?09:19
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blackvdthen startfluxbox?09:20
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soundrayblackvd: Hit Ctrl Alt F1, login with your username and pass, and enter 'sudo X :1'09:20
Secreth`Xhrm09:20
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slibsanyone got nvclock 0.8b running with breezy?09:20
blackvdah09:20
Razor-Xnevermind, I fot my script working09:20
Razor-X*got09:20
trappistsudo?09:20
slibsi can't get gtk enabled with nvclock09:20
Secreth`Xwhen I kill 1 apache2 processes, there are 2 new..09:20
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soundrayblackvd, then kill the X server with CtrlAlt Backspace...09:20
NoMoXphello09:20
trappistblackvd: no need to run X as root.  just startx -- :109:20
Secreth`XHow can I stop them from coming?09:20
blueheadblackvd everything xed? sorry what does this mean?09:21
NoMoXpI have switched from XP on 3 of my 4 compu ters09:21
soundrayblackvd, except you won't know for sure about the ...09:21
soundraythanks trappist...09:21
NoMoXpthere is one product I have not found on Linux09:21
NoMoXpI am wondering if you can help me09:21
delireSecreth`X: sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop09:21
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Secreth`Xdelire, tried that09:21
delireSecreth`X: or 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop' in your case..09:21
NoMoXpI need something comparable to microsoft Visual Studio?09:21
Razor-XNoMoXp: mmmm, that depends09:21
trappistNoMoXp: kdevelop09:21
delireSecreth`X: strange.. try 'sudo killall apache2'09:21
Secreth`Xk09:21
NoMoXpKdevelope?09:22
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Razor-XNoMoXp: do you want an IDE, or do you just want the programming language?09:22
soundrayNoMoXp: an integrated development environment? emacs.09:22
trappistno.  kdevelop.09:22
Aleks!ubotu pastebin aleks@AlX-Ubuntu:~$ chmod u+x winmac_fstab09:22
Aleksaleks@AlX-Ubuntu:~$ sudo ./winmac_fstab09:22
AleksBy default the disks will be writable only by root and09:22
AleksAleksander Insteb (aleks)09:22
AleksDo you want to make the disk writable by all users instead? (y/n)09:22
ubotuAleks: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about09:22
Aleksy09:22
Alekserror: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_8_109:22
NoMoXpdoeI want hte environment09:22
AleksIgnoring /dev/sda1 - already in /etc/fstab09:22
NoMoXpshit09:22
Alekserror: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_8_309:22
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blackvdbluehead: sorry is everyhting in there marked?09:22
NoMoXpsorry09:22
Razor-XAleks: no pasting here09:22
AleksIgnoring /dev/sda3 - already in /etc/fstab09:22
NoMoXpI want the environment09:22
AleksNo usable windows/mac partitions found09:22
Aleksoh09:22
trappistAleks: you were told not to paste here.09:22
Aleksshit09:22
blackvd*everything09:22
Alekssorry, i tried the pastebin09:22
Alekshow to use it?09:22
Razor-XNoMoXp: oh, so you just want to program?09:22
Razor-XAleks: if you can't use pastebin, try #flood09:22
Secreth`Xthanks delire09:22
NoMoXpyes09:22
NoMoXpI like the drag and drop widget sets09:22
Aleks#flood09:22
Razor-XNoMoXp: oh, now that's easy09:22
NoMoXpRazor X what do you reccomend?09:23
Razor-XAleks: #flood allows you to paste multiple lines, just tell the person you're working with to look at #flood09:23
blueheadblackdv if you are refering to the options in repositories settings, not09:23
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Aleks!ubotu pastebin09:23
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:23
Razor-XNoMoXp: just about every UNIX distribution uses gcc09:23
Razor-XNoMoXp: the standard C compiler09:23
Secreth`Xdelire, what is in your opinion the best apache? 2 or 1.3.33?09:23
Razor-XNoMoXp: you can also use it (or rather it's variation g++) to program in C++09:24
dnBcan anyone help me out with doing a network install of ubuntu? i attemped to do "apt-get install tftpd-hpa apache2 dhcp3-server" but i got 'fail' when trying to start DHCP server09:24
joshholtanyone know about kxmcp on kubuntu....09:24
Alekshttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/437309:24
blackvdbluehead: was just asking what sources you had in there and if all of them were checked09:24
AleksAny who can help me?09:24
joshholtI'm trying to get LTSP to work09:24
Razor-Xyou also have implementations of Python, Ruby, Perl, PHP, SQL, and any other language you can imagine09:24
Razor-Xsave Visual Basic09:24
blank!uobutu repos09:24
ubotublank: Do they come in packets of five?09:24
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blueheadblackdv ok, all the sources are there but i have no idea of how to chek them09:24
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NoMoXpso emacs would be the best?09:24
blank!ubotu repos09:24
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joshholtbut I can't find the setting that starts X with --nolisten tcp09:24
Secreth`Xzomg whats wrong with firefox, its open for only 30 minutes and is using 145MB of memory :S09:24
delireSecreth`X: 1.3.33 suits me fine for most purposes.09:24
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Secreth`Xok delire09:25
Razor-XNoMoXp: emacs is a programming environment, it's basically a text editor IDE09:25
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delireSecreth`X: i've just never found a good enough reason to move to 209:25
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Razor-XNoMoXp: it's my own text editor of choice, but if you're *just* looking for a compiler, you have no need of emacs09:25
bluefrog-10joshholt, there's no XDCMP section in /etc/kdm/kdm.conf?09:25
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Razor-XNoMoXp: although emacs will make the developmetn process much smoother09:25
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Secreth`Xdelire, I never used apache1.3 before so I wouldn't know the difference09:25
Razor-X*development09:25
soundrayNoMoXp, it was a half serious suggestion. emacs is great if you;ve grown up with it.09:26
bluefrog-10joshholt, XDMCP sry09:26
soundray*you've09:26
blackvdsoundray: no screen found also virtual isnt a keyword09:26
Razor-Xsoundray: i'm 15, I started on vi, and I switched to emacs :)09:26
huttanI just installed ubuntu breezy and it seems impossible to get it to detect my netgear wg511t card, I have installed the correct package for madwifi drivers, but still there is no sign of it, does anybody know how to fix this? My friend did the exact same thing on his laptop 1 hour ago and he found it instantly, but on my laptop it won't work09:26
NoMoXpwell I grew up with Visual Studio and visual basic09:26
blanktell ubotu to tell me about restricted formats09:26
blueheadblackdv i have two recent new source, vlan ones, one for source, one for binary, they have de distribution field set to debian, and the section field set to main09:26
joshholtbluefrog- 10: yeah there is but I am looking for the Xservers file09:26
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joshholtto remove this setting09:26
NoMoXpI am used to the ability to move code, as well as objects around dynamically09:26
Razor-XNoMoXp: then something like KDevelop will suit you best, although you shouldn't hesitate to check out vim, emacs, and joe09:26
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LasseLSecreth`X, I have also heard good things about http://www.lighttpd.net/ -- seems less complex than apache09:26
Razor-XNoMoXp: personally, I prefer my emacs in a nice terminal window :)09:27
NoMoXpfor Kdevelope I assume it has KDE dependencies?09:27
Secreth`XLasseL, neat, im gonna try it09:27
Razor-XNoMoXp: yes, unfortunately09:27
bluefrog-10joshholt, what's ur problem?09:27
Razor-Xstill, KDE apps to a few things pretty well09:27
soundrayblackvd, too bad.09:27
opnsrcubuntu doesn't allow me to login as root09:27
opnsrcwhen I installed, it has no such option09:27
AleksAny one who can help me with mounting disks in ubuntu?09:27
Razor-X(I love KDVI, for example)09:27
opnsrcand it doesn't ask for a root pw09:27
Razor-XAleks: shoot09:27
opnsrcis there a default one?09:27
NoMoXpOk do you reccomend installing KDE on top of my ubuntu installlation, or installing Kubuntu on top of my ubuntu installation?09:27
LasseLopnsrc, sudo -s09:27
Belutz_zzzubotu, tell opnsrc about sudo09:28
Razor-XNoMoXp: nopers, just install what you need09:28
blanki wished visual studio worked on linux09:28
Razor-X*shudders*09:28
Razor-XI can't stand Visual Studio, personally :)09:28
delireblank: ewww09:28
soundrayblackvd: My mistake, it needs to go in a subsection of screen.09:28
NoMoXpok, thanks guys, I have to run now09:28
blankSHUTUP09:28
delireblank: i look forward to never working with it again.09:28
Razor-Xblank: :)09:28
LasseL!idewar09:28
ubotuLasseL: I don't know, could you explain it?09:28
NoMoXphave a good one :)09:28
soundrayblackvd: type man xorg.conf and search for virtual09:28
sambagirlsomething happened. my lauch things were at the top of th screen now they are HUGE and on the side, how can i restore to original?09:28
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blankI'm tired of this crap, people that think that just working with things that are harder is better, if something like VS boosts up your productivity rate, then why is it bad09:29
Razor-Xthen again, you're talking to someone who uses ratpoison and emacs, so you've got to expect I don't like Visual Studio09:29
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Razor-Xblank: it works differently for other people09:29
joshholtbluefrog- 10:  The xserver starts up by default not listening to tcp ports.... I enabled xdmcp in the kdmrc09:29
LasseLblank, try eclipse09:29
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Razor-Xooh, he left09:29
joshholtblusefrog- 10: but X still starts this way09:29
delireblank: many ex VC6/7 users enjoy KDevelop. http://kdevelop.org. you may too.09:29
dnBhurt his feelings.09:30
dnBcan anyone help me out with doing a network install of ubuntu? i attemped to do "apt-get install tftpd-hpa apache2 dhcp3-server" but i got 'fail' when trying to start DHCP server09:30
Aleksi forgot to tell that it are SATA2 disks...09:30
Razor-Xsome people actually don't think graphically, I think he never knew that09:30
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dj47brand new to linux and using kubuntu. Have trie Redhat Fedora Core 4 and they have a super filemanager which is like a konqueror with root privileges. Is there a similar deb package with such a file manager?09:30
Secreth`XLasseL, woah it is great!09:30
Razor-XAleks: if English isn't your native language (just a suggestion), there are other channels that cater to different languages09:30
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AleksRazor-X, do you knew a norwegain?09:31
LasseLSecreth`X, you configured it already?!?09:31
sambagirlnow i accidently removed email thing from panel.09:31
Secreth`XNo09:31
Razor-XAleks: not be, but there is a nerwegian chanel :)09:31
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Secreth`XBut I like it already :D09:31
dnBi cant get dhcp server to start :/ anyone recommend what i may want to check out?09:31
deliredj47: hmm a filemanager with root privileges sounds very dangerous to me ;)09:31
Razor-XAle*me09:31
Razor-Xerrr09:31
Razor-XAleks: *me09:31
dj47I know, but I like to live on the edge.. :)09:31
sambagirlblah i'll just reinstall ubuntu time no 5 chao09:31
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slibs:D09:32
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Knowerrorswhat is the purpose of "swf-player" package if Linux doesn't do Shockwave?09:32
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slibs"aargh it doesn't work" "well just reinstall it"09:32
AnswerWhat is the ubuntu equivalent to rc.local, where I can run some stuff as startup?09:32
slibsthat goes with windows dammit!09:32
AleksRazor-X, norwegian***09:32
opnsrcI tried sudo -s and it asks me for a pw09:32
Razor-XAleks: try #ubuntu-no09:32
Aleksok09:32
AleksRazor-X, no..09:33
slibsAnswer: if you get that answer tell me too ;)09:33
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Razor-XAleks: not norwegian? :(09:33
AnswerWhat is the ubuntu equivalent to rc.local, where I can run some stuff as startup?09:33
LasseLsambagirl, don't reinstall b/c of that09:33
Razor-X!norwegian09:33
ubotuRazor-X: Are you smoking crack?09:33
folkihi all09:33
AleksRazor-X, didn't work09:33
Razor-Xstupid ubotu09:33
delireAnswer: do you mean /etc/rc.* ? or /etc/init.d/*09:33
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LjLopnsrc: that should usually be your user password?09:33
blankhello09:33
Razor-XAleks: I meant to join the #ubutnu-no channel09:33
blank!ubotu repos09:33
folkiI have just installed Ubuntu and I would know how to install some software. Can anybody help me?09:33
AleksRazor-X, i tried..., didnt work09:33
LasseLsambagirl, rightclick the panel, select properties, adjust size and position from there09:34
Razor-XAleks: odd...09:34
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AleksRazor-X, oh, write error :P09:34
Razor-XI see it in my channel list09:34
Aleksbye folkz09:34
Razor-Xoh, meh09:34
Answerdelire: on redhat it is /etc/rc.local, on gentoo it is /etc/conf.d/local.start09:34
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Stormx2Hey!09:34
AleksRazor-X, and tanks09:34
LjLAleks: joining a channel didn't work? :o)09:34
sambagirlthat does not work lassel09:34
AleksRazor-X, bye09:34
Razor-XAleks: no problem09:34
LjLAleks: /join #ubuntu-no, of course it works09:34
sambagirlit tries to launch the thing09:34
dnBfolki, system/administration/synaptic package manager09:34
folkiI f I woul install for example ICQ what will I need and how can I do it?09:35
LjLfolki: Gaim09:35
delireAnswer: hmm, can't help. i've been using Debian for far too long and have little experience with any other Linux distro.09:35
Stormx2folki: Gaim09:35
Stormx2folki: GAIM is pre-installed on ubuntu and can connect to ICQ09:35
sambagirlthese icons are almost hiding my entire desktop and i cannot do anything09:35
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ProN00bi can, StarKruzr09:35
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ProN00b*Stormx209:35
Answerdelire, when it boots I want to launch firefox.  isn't there some script that I can add stuff to the boot sequence??09:35
folkithank...I am going to try it09:35
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delireAnswer: i use ~/.xinitrc for this09:36
blueheadif you put theses deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sarge main09:36
blueheaddeb-src http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sarge main in your sources.list09:36
Stormx2ProN00b: Huh?09:36
cafuego_Answer: No. Add it to the session startup list in Gnome.09:36
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LjLAnswer: the stuff for startup is in /etc/init.d and /etc/rc.d, i don't quite remember what's the right programs to add custom things there09:36
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LjLAnswer: of course you could even add stuff by hand, but you'd need to know quite a few things to do it correctly09:36
sunshine82my computer has just gone really slow for the past few days how to i check it and fix it09:36
delireAnswer: DE's like KDE and Gnome have session managers. perhaps this is a better way for you to approach what you want.09:36
blueheaddo you get an error while updating package list?09:36
Answercafuego_, how do I do what you said?09:36
cafuego_Answer: System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup programs -> Add firefox.09:37
ProN00bi can connect to icq with gaim, Stormx209:37
LjLdelire, Answer: well, depending on what he's intending to do, yeah, possibly09:37
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Answercafuego_, how to do that from the command line?09:37
cafuego_Answer: You don't.09:37
LjLoh well, if the intention is just to start Firefox at boot, that's certainly a solution09:37
Stormx2ProN00b: Yep09:37
LjLor just save a session with firefox started!09:37
Answercafuego_, I don't have gnome-panel, please tell me how to change the startup programs from the command line09:37
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delireLjL: he needs programs to start after X, therefore a session manager or ~/.xinitrc would be a better move.09:37
Razor-XAnswer: what WM do you use?09:37
cute_bettongdoes anyone know how to theme irssi in ubuntu?09:37
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cute_bettongthe themes don't seem to work09:37
cafuego_Starting firefox at boot is pointless, as it needs a $DISPLAY variable. That's  ot available until there's a user in X.09:37
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LjLdelire: certainly so.09:38
cafuego_Answer: Add it to ~/.xsession09:38
Secreth`XHmm I think I found a solution for my sound problem. Apperently I have 2 sound cards. One normal and one 5.1 DD sound card. I want to use the 5.1 but the normal is used. How do I change that?09:38
cute_bettongis one on board?09:38
Answercafuego_, ~/.xsession is empty09:38
cute_bettonglike built into the motherboard?09:38
cafuego_Answer: Like I said, _add_ it.09:38
blueheadI need some help with debian depositories that seem to not work in my ubuntu dist (using synaptic)09:39
Secreth`XYes cute_bettong09:39
cute_bettongnot the 5.1 right?09:39
Secreth`XNot the 5.1, correct09:39
cute_bettongthe 5.1 is the card09:39
cute_bettongok09:39
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cute_bettonggo into your bios and shut off the soundcard09:39
Secreth`XOk09:39
Secreth`Xbrb..09:39
cute_bettongthen boot into ubuntu and there is a thing that shows you what09:39
cute_bettongsound card to use09:39
cute_bettongand make the 5.1 the defauilt09:40
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cute_bettongfault even09:40
Secreth`XOk i will09:40
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Razor-Xi'm intrigued, can loadlin load Ubuntu if Ubuntu is installed?09:41
KnowerrorsAnyone know how to fix this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8870609:41
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cute_bettongdoes anyone know why irssi theme's do not work all the way in ubuntu09:42
garrett_Hello #ubuntu09:42
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funkyHatKnowerrors, pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace should fix the problem.09:42
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Razor-Xcute_bettong: what do you mean?09:42
sunshine82my windows keep stickin or goin blank09:42
funkyHatKnowerrors, saves you restarting09:42
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cute_bettongRaxor-X hold on i will show you09:42
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joshholtAnyone successfully setup LTSP09:42
garrett_Razor-X: You're here again. :P09:43
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LjLfunkyHat: i don't have exactly that problem, but sometimes my X starts with the wrong refresh rate, and just restarting X doesn't change it09:43
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Razor-Xgarrett_: :P09:43
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cafuego_joshholt: Yes.09:44
jeff_hey guys09:44
recon0clear09:44
jeff_do you know how to change the colour scheme?09:44
cafuego_joshholt: I installed from an Edubuntu iso and after 30 minutes I had a working ltsp system.09:44
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garrett_Razor-X: Think of anymore possibilities on my GRUB issue?09:44
jeff_in gnome??09:44
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cafuego_jeff_: System -> Prefs -> Theme -> Theme details09:45
KnowerrorsfunkyHat: any way to fix it permanently?09:45
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joshholtcafuego_: Any instructions09:45
Secreth`Xwho was the dude that helped me?09:46
cafuego_joshholt: Find edubuntu, install, done.09:46
blackvdwhats weird is when I login to kubuntu my res is fine but fluxbox is way off09:46
funkyHati don't know Knowerrors. It's probably possible to remove lines from xorg.conf to make it use the resolution you want, but I can't help you with that09:46
recon0Can somebody help me?09:46
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Secreth`Xwho was the dude that helped me?09:47
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sunshine82my computer is really runnin really slow how do i fix it or check what wrong09:47
zack_im in the package manager and i cant find unrar-nonfree09:47
blackvdstarted me at 1600 this time09:47
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sunshine82now my computer is just login it self out09:47
Vegittosunshine82, buy a new one09:47
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joshholtcafuego_: I have tried this on Kubuntu and it sorta works09:47
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recon0Can somebody help me w/ a terminal error?09:47
sunshine82vegitto it normall very fast09:48
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LjLrecon0: what kind of error09:48
jeff_cafuego_: ok, im in theme deatils and i dont see anything about the color scheme09:48
sunshine82all the windows are stickin when i try to open them and goin blamk09:48
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cute_bettonganyone know how to change the text colour and background colour in ubuntu's terminal?09:49
mike4263hey. my ubuntu install is hosed09:49
Vegittosunshine82, reinstall then ;)09:49
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WildZeckcute_bettong, under x ?09:49
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sunshine82vegitto reinstsll what09:50
Red-Soxhello09:50
Niomihow do you configure a mouse with multiple buttons?09:50
jeff_does anyone know how to change the colour scheme in ubuntu?09:50
Vegittosunshine82, everything you can09:50
sunshine82vegitto i dont know what causin the computere to go so slow09:50
Red-Soxjeff_:yes09:50
jeff_Red-Sox: can you please tell me how09:50
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cute_bettongWildZeck: yes i beleve that is what i want to do09:51
cute_bettongit's under the defualt breezy install09:51
Vegittosunshine82: how can you ask for advice if you don't even know what your problem is?09:51
Red-Soxjeff_: system--------->prefs--------------->theme----------->any scheme you want; you can also download new themes in gnome art;)09:51
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WildZeckX is the graphic gui under linux09:51
ompaulmike4263, so are you going to tell us more09:51
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Red-Sox!test09:52
ubotuFailed.09:52
cute_bettongWildZeck: so can you help me?09:52
Red-Sox!RestrictedFormats09:52
ubotuwell, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'09:52
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Red-Soxjeff_: was that what you wanted?09:52
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WildZeckcute_bettong, in a terminal , on the menu at the top, edit current profile ->colors09:53
sunshine82the computer keep login me out i think it has to do with gtk-gnuella09:53
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sunshine82i try and remove it the sypatic manager closes by itself09:54
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Red-Soxis it possible to get windows media player movies off the internet on ubuntu?09:54
jeff_Red-Sox: i wanted to change the colours09:54
sunshine82i try reinstall it the sypatic managr close by itself09:55
Red-Soxjrff_: colors of what?09:55
WildZeckRed-Sox, with a vlc plug in in firefox perhaps ?09:55
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Red-Soxjeff_:*09:55
WildZeckRed-Sox, never try it09:55
Red-SoxWildZeck: hmm...ill give it a shot09:55
jeff_red-sox: not just the window border, controls or icons, like the colour of the task bar and window bars09:55
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jeff_red-sox: and stuff like that09:55
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sunshine82how do i remove gtk-gnuella from my computer i thinkn it causein my computer to go slow09:56
sunshine82ive try through sypatic that just closes by itself09:56
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rich930hia ppl09:56
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JDahlanyone here using eclipse with Breezy on AMD64? It keeps crashing for me during startup09:57
MoBangsunshine82: sudo apt-get remove <apname>09:57
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rich930hai09:57
garrett_Any veterans here?09:57
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Red-Soxjeff_: yes...go to theme...click on 'theme details' and you can change near anything09:57
garrett_(just a shot in the dark)09:57
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zack_anyone know where a .RAR extractor would be in the package manager?09:58
Red-Soxgarret_: type /topic09:58
jeff_red-sox: i onle have the controls, window border adn icon tabs09:58
mike4263the live cd does the same thing09:58
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ProN00bi need something called iproute2, is it contained in the iproute package ?09:58
adri_man, i'm reinstalling again, my computer said it didnt know anything about the installation, like, couldn't find the directories, so im gonna install on the other drive to see if this drive is messed up, what's the command to check if the hard drive is faulty?09:58
mike4263oh wait09:58
LjLzack_: aptitude install unrar09:58
jatoshi09:58
Red-Soxjeff_: do you know how to take a screenshot?09:59
mike4263it just booted09:59
JDahlzack_, unrar-nonfree in restricted (or multiverse)09:59
Red-Soxjeff_: hold that thought09:59
jeff_red-sox: yeah man, how do i send it to you09:59
Red-Soxjeff_: okay09:59
JDahlzack_, apt-cache search unrar09:59
jeff_red-sox: ill put it on imageshack09:59
adri_hey guys, what's the command to see if a hard drive is faulty, to check it09:59
adri_some guy just told me earlier, like an hour ago09:59
Red-Soxjeff_: no...just pastebin09:59
adri_I forgot09:59
garrett_Red-Sox: I know where I'm at. Just going to wish anyone a happy Veteran's day.09:59
Xenguyadri_: fsck09:59
adri_anyone, please09:59
adri_fsck, if the drive is hdb09:59
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adri_fsck hdb ?10:00
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Red-Soxgarret_: not here10:00
cafuego_!find bin/iproute210:00
Xenguyadri_: man fsck10:00
adri_im not on linux right now10:00
garrett_Fsck that.10:00
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Red-Soxjeff_: did you put it on pastebin?10:00
adri_comon please, I need it to check the hd, cuase I cant boot into ubuntu, I mean, when it starts up ubuntu, all these errors come up and it cant startx, its like it cnat find the directories10:00
jeff_im abotu to10:01
adri_lol10:01
zack_Ljl: thanks, thanks others10:01
sunshine82im havin a problem here my computer keep login it self off and im tryin to use gtk-gnella and it keep freeze i've tried to uninstall it but sypati maner just closes it self10:01
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adri_fsck hdb ?10:01
adri_fsck fdb?10:01
trappistRed-Sox: he wasn't talking about linux veterans.10:01
sunshine82any ideas anyone on how i can fix this please10:01
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ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/iproute2' returned no results.10:01
MoBangsunshine82: sudo apt-get remove gtk-gnutella10:01
Xenguyadri_: unless you can get to a command prompt, you can't use fsck anyway10:01
trappistgarrett_: thanks10:01
Red-Soxtrappist: I know...lol...thats why i said not here10:01
garrett_trappist: No problem-o.10:02
Xenguyadri_: so you probably need a rescue disk of some kind10:02
Xenguyadri_: use that to boot, then run 'fsck' from there10:02
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Red-Soxjeff_: did you?10:02
zack_ok, i thought i installed it, but how am i sure10:02
Xenguyadri_: # NOTE: To fsck the main/boot drive, boot from a rescue CD and fsck the *unmounted drive*10:03
Xenguy# e.g. -> e2fsck -fv /dev/hda310:03
Red-Soxis there a way to change the location of the X minimize and maximize buttons?10:03
adri_uh...10:03
adri_I want to fsck hdb10:03
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zack_i typed10:03
adri_how would I do that, fsck hdb?10:03
ULffuntuwhy isn't there a search function in your file browser HUHHH10:03
zack_sudo aptitude install unrar10:04
Xenguyadri_: those instructions apply to an ext2 filesystem I believe10:04
jeff_red-sox: yeah here it is10:04
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jeff_red-sox: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/437510:04
trappistadri_: you fsck partitions, not hard drives10:04
zack_and it did some stuff, but im not sure it installed. becasue i cant extract rars10:04
Red-Soxjeff_: thx10:04
tristanmikeRed-Sox, System tools, Configuration Editor10:04
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MoBangsunshine82: sudo apt-get remove gtk-gnutella10:04
trappistzack_: how do you know you can't extract rars10:04
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zack_i have a .rar and i tried to extract it10:05
sunshine82any ideas on why gtk-gnutella keep freezing10:05
tristanmikeRed-Sox, apps-metacity-general-button layout10:05
Red-Soxjeff_: and what do you want?10:05
zack_archive type not supported it says10:05
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MoBangsunshine82: because it's evil10:05
sunshine82mobang i remove and reinstall it and im still havin the same problenm10:05
zack_i can show you what it said when i type sudo aptitude install unrar10:05
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jeff_red-sox: im trying to change the colours. like instead of grey for the window background i want to choose comethign else10:06
MoBangsunshine82: I don't use it, sorry!10:06
sunshine82mobang it been workin fine for ages it just the last few day sit just gone funny amd my computer gone so slow10:06
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MoBangsunshine82: maybe gnutella isn't the problem10:06
recon0can somebody help me w/a program issue10:06
Coburnhow can create icons on xfce desktop^10:06
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sunshine82mobang but i dont what else to check10:06
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HaschHasehi guys, where do i find the trash can?10:07
knoppix_hey where can I find my system log again, I'm gonna see why it's not working10:07
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HaschHasei deleted it from the panel10:07
ColD_7do anyone experience the cursor gone crazy in ubuntu?10:07
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HaschHaseand now i cant find it anymore10:07
blankwhere is the system log10:07
trappistdoes ubuntu not even have gtk+-2.0 available?10:07
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MoBangsunshine82: is the problem there without gnutella10:07
blankcan someone please tell me where I can get the system log10:07
blank*wher eI can find10:07
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yoHaschHase, itz botto-right last icon next to panels10:08
recon0has anybody had issues with america's army on ubuntu?10:08
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tristanmikeHaschHase, right click-->add to panel-->trash10:08
Red-Soxjeff_: oh...sorry...hold on10:08
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tristanmikerecon0, I've had no problems last time I checked10:08
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Xenguyblank: /var/log10:08
blanksomeone please, thanks10:08
Xenguyblank: try 'messages' or 'syslog'10:08
blankk10:09
HaschHasethanks tristanmike10:09
Xuhi can anyone help me out with a little performance question?10:09
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zack_how do i know if i actually installed unrar when i cant extract .rar's10:09
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blankgay, it doesnt let me view it, not enough permissions (im on knoppix)10:09
blankmessages is locked too10:10
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Xui've just installed the nvidia drivers... i hope i would get a better video performance.. :( but i don't.. :(10:10
jaimshello10:10
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Xuthe problem is playing *.wmv files10:10
recon0can somebody help me cause america's army won't run10:10
Riddellblank: don't use homophobic language here10:10
rich930i have ubuntu 5.10 for n e one hoo has a 64 bit cpu but i dont that suks10:10
Xuthey aren't playing smooth :(10:10
blanksrry10:10
zack_how do i know if i actually installed unrar when i cant extract .rar's10:10
blankcan anyone help me10:10
Riddellblank: use sudo10:11
rich930wid wat10:11
Red-Soxjeff_: you might find this helpful http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-app-devel-list/2000-September/msg00178.html10:11
ompaulblank, (A) language (B) sudo -i or su - will help you10:11
jaimsone problem installng ubuntu Breezy Badger!10:11
blankRiddell: I'm on knoppix10:11
LjLRiddell: ahah come one, there's much worse things people can say :)10:11
LjLone=on10:11
ompaulRiddell, is sudo on knoppix10:11
zack_sudo aptitude install unrar10:11
zack_shoudnt that install unrar?10:11
blankompaul: I think it is10:11
blankompaul: but I'm trying to read the ubuntu log, not knoppix10:11
rich930i have knoppix iso image but it wont boot? help?10:12
tristanmikerecon0, sorry, brain freeze, it's "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"10:12
jaimssudo apt-get install unrar, maybe?10:12
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trappistrich930: /join #knoppix10:12
ompaulblank, what are you doing you have your machine booted with knoppix looking at a ubuntu disk?10:12
nadjylahello10:12
blankompaul: yes10:13
blankI'm trying to read the log10:13
Red-Soxrich930: the ubuntu image or the knoppix image?10:13
blankbut I dont have permissions10:13
blankit's cause I cant boot into my ubuntu, I get all sorts of errors10:13
thewayofzensudo apt-get install rar10:13
rich930knoppix im on ubuntu now doh10:13
blankfsck hdb will work, right Xenguy?10:13
thewayofzenthen use rar x filename.rar to extract10:13
jaimsdoes anyone know about a problem whilst installing ubuntu: it hangs loading module 'ide-cd' for 'linux atapi cd-rom'10:13
jaims?10:13
ompaulblank, roll back here a second, what errors are you getting when you try to boot ubuntu?10:14
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Xenguyblank: that should be safe to try10:14
Red-Soxrich930: why is that so evident?10:14
blanknah, you probably burned the cd wrong or you downloaded it wrong, jaime10:14
Xenguyblank: see if it works10:14
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jaimsi don't think so!10:14
Xenguyblank: the drive has to be unmounted10:14
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Xenguyblank: I think that is important IIRC10:14
kainiteHm...10:14
jaimsi have a brand new cd just received from 'ship ubuntu'10:14
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Red-Soxjaims: at t speed did you burn it10:14
delireXenguy: it is10:14
blankthe drive has to be unmounted?10:14
blankhow do I unmount it10:14
Xenguydelire: k10:14
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Red-Soxjames: sry...at what speed did you burn it?10:14
rich930red-sox: tell me wat to do or sum one plz10:14
Coburnhow can create icons on xfce desktop?10:15
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delireblank: before you fsck /dev/hdb what errors are you getting?10:15
blankCould not unmount device.10:15
blankThe reported error was:10:15
blankumount: /mnt/hdb1: device is busy10:15
Red-Soxrich930: at what speed did you burn it?10:15
yokwestion 4 Yve10:15
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rich930high speed? duz dat help?10:15
jaimswith the live-cd it happens the same thin10:15
zack_can anyone help me out with installing unrar10:15
delireblank: don't fsck yet, i'd be surprised if your problem lies there.10:15
jaimsthing, sorry; but it runs in a different pc10:15
blankI got errors like, it cant find the directory, all sorts of them that lead to it, like, 'no such thing as command blah', I think it cant read the drive cuase it cant find directories, it's happened to me before, hence why I reinstalled, but it happened again10:15
Red-Sox!tell delire about paste10:15
nadjylazack_, synaptic search word rar10:15
blankI think it's the drive, that's why I want to fsck10:15
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delireRed-Sox: what?10:15
mike4263okay10:16
mike4263its using my pci video card as my main10:16
thewayofzenzack_,  you want to uncompress a rar file right?10:16
Red-Soxoh...delire...my bad....i ment blank lol10:16
zack_nadjyla: i typed 'sudo aptitude install unrar'  shoudlnt that have worked?10:16
mike4263how do i get it to do not do that10:16
zack_yeah the wayof zen10:16
Red-Sox!tell blank about paste10:16
thewayofzenzack_,   sudo apt-get install rar10:16
yoYvonne, u ever comspec at ssa/atl/ro ?10:16
blankit was just 3 lines Red-Sox10:16
rich930red-sox: duz high speed help?10:16
thewayofzenzack_,  then when u have that installed use this command    :    rar x name.tar10:16
blankso yeah, and I cant read my ubuntu logs10:16
blankcause I dont have the permissions10:17
thewayofzenzack_,  the x flag will tell it to extract10:17
Red-Soxblank: nm10:17
delireblank: hmm. have you mounted the drive first from knoppix?10:17
sburnapThere seems to be a bug in the 5.10 install with multiple drives and grub.10:17
blankit automatically mounted itself10:17
zack_thewayofzen: any reason why    sudo aptitude install unrar    not work?10:17
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Red-Soxsburnap: i think not10:17
mike4263anybody got any ideas with multiple monitors and ubuntu10:17
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blankI right cliked on it and put unmount and I got that error10:17
thewayofzenzack_,  i have no idea.  ive only ever used apt-get install rar10:17
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sburnapI have a working system on /dev/sda110:17
Red-Soxrich930: burn it @ x310:17
thewayofzenzack_,  and it works FINE with single archives or others spanned across multiple rar files10:17
sburnap(A working ubuntu system)10:17
zack_Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:17
zack_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or10:17
zack_is only available from another source10:17
thewayofzenzack_,  taken from the ubuntu starter guide more or less.10:17
thewayofzenzack_,  update your sources.list?10:18
delireblank: if you do want to file-system check, su then 'umount -l /dev/hdb1' then 'fsck /dev/hdb1'10:18
sburnapWhen I try to install to /dev/sdc1, it happily changes the MBR on /dev/sdc1, which, of course, does nothing.10:18
blankand what surprises me, is that it's happened twice since I installed on that drive, but on my other drive it's perfectly okay, it's the same CD from which I'm isntalling from10:18
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nadjylazack_,  after, you can extract rar with file-roller or ark10:18
zack_im pretty new at this =\10:18
sburnapSo when it goes to boot to continue the install, I just get my old system back.10:18
delireblank: check the partition exists at that address with 'fdisk -l' first.10:18
delires/address/path10:18
thewayofzenzack_,  using the repos that are currently in mine (taken from the ubuntu breezy upgrade originally)  both rar and unrar are there10:18
sburnapDoes anyone know how to get the install to change the right drive?10:18
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thewayofzenzack_,  i just checked.10:18
vojtaplease, how can i make mp3 play?10:19
blankdelire, huh?10:19
nadjylavojta, install mad10:19
blankCould not unmount device.10:19
blankThe reported error was:10:19
blankumount: /mnt/hdb1: device is busy10:19
blanksorry10:19
Madpilot!tell vojta about mp310:19
Red-Soxblank: sorry about that...in gaim 2 people are almost the same color and I thought it was just you10:19
YokoZarHmm, none of my openGL screensavers work, yet I have the NVidia restricted modules.  Am I missing something important?10:19
zack_thewayofzen, i go to synaptic package manager, but im not sure what im suppose to be looking for10:19
Xenguyblank: lsof /dev/hdb1  <-- what output does that give?10:20
delireblank: you must be accessing a file on that partition.10:20
Knowerrorscan anybody help me get mp3 support going?  I already have w32codecs installed and tried both kaffiene and amarok, nada10:20
blankkay hold on10:20
thewayofzenzack_,  when you do a search for rar in synaptic you get nothing?10:20
nadjylazack_, search the word rar with synaptic10:20
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blankfsck it says it's clean10:20
Xenguyblank: lsof /mnt/hdb1  <-- sorry, this instead?10:20
cafuego_blank: are you _on_ /mnt/hdb1?10:20
cafuego_blank: DO NOT run fsck on a mounted fs!10:20
blankI was, I closed it and did fsck again, and it's not mounted anymore10:20
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YokoZaroh dur-hur I didn't enable it10:20
Xenguyblank: stop10:20
zack_i did10:20
zack_i get nothing10:20
rich930i have a 64 bit processor but 5.10 for 64 bit wont run help?10:21
blankI did xenguy10:21
zack_i didnt a provided package search10:21
blankI closed the window, I unmounted hdb110:21
zack_and searched by name10:21
fruudhow do you see what KDE version u got ?10:21
zack_neither came up10:21
blankthen I did fsck10:21
cafuego_blank: Won't run how?10:21
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Xenguyblank: ahh, gave us a scare there :-)10:21
nadjylazack, check your sources universe and multiverse on10:21
thewayofzenzack_,  when you search for rar in synaptic you get a SUPER long list of things.. if u scroll to the R's you do not have rar?10:21
zack_nope10:21
thewayofzennadjyla,  ill let u help.. its likely you are more experienced at this then i.10:21
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fruudguys, how do you see what KDE version u got10:22
blankso now what guys10:22
blankI unmounted it10:22
Xenguyblank: delire seemed to think the problem is elsewhere (but I didn't see him say where)10:22
zack_nadjyla: how do i check them on10:22
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zack_right now im at software preferences10:22
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zack_and i see a list of things like, breezy badger etc...10:22
blankIt's unmounted, what should I type, fsck /dev/hdb1 ?10:22
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Ahmucki like the live version.  i have a zip disk.  is there a way to write configuration files to the zip disk, such as firefox, openoffice, etc. so i can reboot and still retiain themes, extensions, etc. ?10:23
Xenguyblank: I thought you already did an fsck?10:23
rich930i have a 64 bit processor but 5.10 for 64 bit wont run help?10:23
blankXenguy: lsof /mnt/hdb1 doesn't give any output10:23
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blankyeah but fsck didnt do anything10:23
bluefrog-10how do i get out of irssi,pls?10:23
Xenguyblank: K10:23
blankand still doesnt10:23
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trappistblank: /quit10:23
bluefrog-10ty10:23
trappistoops10:24
recon0***** Can somebody help me with issue at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/437610:24
trappistbluefrog-10: /quit10:24
blankoh Xenguy10:24
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trappistor is it /exit10:24
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blankxenguy, I think I know now, it's not mounted so it's dev/hdb1, not mnt/hdb110:24
trappistI never do it10:24
Ahmuckfor one, i would like to have ISO-2022-JP installed however, if my niece reboots my pc during the day i would have to go through the entire reload process over again.10:24
blankstill didn't work10:24
blankMan, I'm so confused10:24
recon0If somebody can help me with issue at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4376, /msg me10:24
blankfsck /dev/hdb1 just says10:24
zack_what section should UNRAR be in?10:24
Xenguyblank: yes (about lsof)10:24
blankeverything's clean10:24
sburnapsigh10:25
blankyeah Xenguy?10:25
blankoh10:25
Xenguyblank: is your filesystem ext2 or ext3 ?10:25
trappistrecon0: glxinfo | grep rendering10:25
blankext310:25
tristanmikerecon0, there you are, you ran away on me last time, I had a brain freeze, sorry,10:25
zack_what section should UNRAR be in?10:25
recon0sorry10:25
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cafuego_blank: Yes, use -f to force a run10:25
blankon what10:25
tristanmikerecon0, anyway, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"10:25
blanklsof -f /dev/hdb1 ?10:25
blank-f for what10:25
cafuego_blank: It cna be marked as clean (tune2fs -l) but still be busted.10:25
blankon fsck?10:25
recon0i'll try10:25
blankcafuego_: use -f on what, fsck?10:26
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tristanmikerecon0, I remember I had that exact issue, but it was a while ago10:26
jeff_red-sox: what was that url you gave me? sorry, i had to get the phone10:26
cafuego_blank: unkoiunt; sudo fsck -C -f /dev/hdb110:26
cafuego_s/unkoiunt/unmount/10:26
dirksonHey all. I'm trying to get a PPP account to run upon boot- How would I go about doing that?10:26
n0odl3how do i stop GAIM from automatically starting in xfce10:26
n0odl3???10:26
cafuego_dirkson: it it in /etc/network/interfaces10:26
blankah okay, NOW, it's checking10:26
zack_anyone know what section UNRAR should be in in the synaptic package manager?10:26
blankon the other one it wasnt doing anything10:26
tristanmikezack_, "unrar" is in the "universe"10:26
recon0tristanmike, i get "dpkg: confilicting actions  --control and --remove10:26
cafuego_blank: Yes, that's because the fs was marked as clean. if that flag is set, fsck doesn't bother.10:26
blankguys it asks me10:27
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dirksonCafuego Ok, I've put my wvdial stuff in that.... Do you know if /interfaces runs before or after miscboot.sh? (I have scripts in miscboot.sh that enable my modem)10:27
tristanmikerecon0, hmm, do you have synaptic open?10:27
jeff_red-sox: you there man?10:27
blankDeleted inod 1048673 has zero dtime. Fix<y>?10:27
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n0odl3does anyone know?10:27
blank*inod = inode10:27
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cafuego_dirkson: wvdial? You only need ppp stanzas10:27
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recon0tristanmike, yes whoops, i'll try  again10:27
zack_i cant find anything bout universe in the manager10:27
blankcafuego and Xenguy: Deleted inod 1048673 has zero dtime. Fix<y>?10:27
cafuego_dirkson: add a ppp0 interface stanza as per the manpage and off it goes.10:28
tristanmikezack_, paste your sources.list in pastebin10:28
cafuego_blank: If the disk is indeed unmounted, yes.10:28
blankhuh? yeah it is10:28
blankso I press yes?10:28
gearryhow do I add a path to my PATH env?10:28
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sburnapRed-Sox: if the ubuntu install doesn't have a bug in it, then why does it change the MBR on the wrong disk?10:28
cafuego_blank:  just 'y'10:28
blanknow it says the same thing but for another inode, yes again I guess10:28
delireblank: go through them all with y10:28
Red-Soxhttp://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-app-devel-list/2000-September/msg00178.html, jeff_10:28
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dirksonCafuego Ahhh, ok. That might be tough. The PPP connection I'm using is quite unique.... The man page says I can use a wvdial stanza too, and I've already got wvdial programmed to call my internet.10:28
n0odl3Hw do i stop GAIM from automatically starting up in xfce?10:28
zack_tristanmike, im pretty new, not sure whwer sources.list is10:28
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zack_any place i can read up about this stuff?10:29
cafuego_Or ctrl-C and trrun it with the -y flag too (auto-yes)10:29
delirezack_: /etc/apt/sources.list10:29
tristanmikezack_, /etc/apt/sources.list10:29
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recon0tristanmike, it's saking for a video card driver, i don't know which one10:29
dylan_how do i format an external hard drive in linux?10:29
blankInodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found. Fix<y>? I already pressed yes, just letting you know10:29
Red-Soxsburnap: it worked on a different system for me!10:29
tristanmikerecon0, which video card do you have?10:29
jeff_red-sox: thanks alot man10:29
cafuego_dirkson: Ah ok, I never used wvdial; still that should all run well after bootmisc.sh10:29
deliredylan_: i like to use cfdisk10:29
blankInoe 1048699, i_blocks is 1, should be 0, Fix<y>?10:29
sburnapRed-Sox: using SATA?10:29
sburnapI've tried twice now.10:29
blank*Inoe = Inode10:29
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Red-Soxjeff_: did it help?10:29
recon0tristanmike, i honestly don't know, how can i find out?10:30
cafuego_blank: Just hit y, no need letting us know what it outputs.10:30
blank:)10:30
sburnapIt happily changes the MBR on /dev/sdc1, which is pretty useless with /dev/sda1 being the first drive.10:30
Red-Soxsburnap: yes10:30
n0odl3does anyone know?10:30
dylan_delire, its on /dev/sde ... so what do i do?  its connected via usb10:30
tristanmikerecon0, nvidia, ati, they ring a bell?10:30
Red-Soxsburnap: I dont remember it completely, though, it was about a year ago in a class10:31
dirksonCafuego Hmm..... Ok........ So it sounds like I've messed something up in the interfaces file. That gives me somewhere to start, at least! : )10:31
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deliredylan_: does 'fdisk -l' see it?10:31
recon0tristanmike, i know all the brands, i just don't know which one i have10:31
sburnapRed-Sox: so not with the current release then?  So you don't know that it works with 5.10?10:31
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tristanmikerecon0, check device manager?10:31
n0odl3how can I stop GAIM from automatically running when i start xfce?10:31
blankuh...guys, it says Entry 'inputrc' in /etc (some number) has deleted/unused inode (somenumber), Clear? (already put yes)10:31
dylan_delire, yes it does10:31
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Red-Soxsburnap: oh yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...thats right...sorry10:32
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Red-Soxsburnap: braincramp10:32
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Swedish_Chef10:32
dirksonCafuego Er..... any chance you could glance at my code and help me debug? :-/10:32
cafuego_blank: Whatever is trashes will end up in /lost+found10:32
deliredylan_: great, then use a program like qtparted (GUI) or cfdisk (Console) to format it.10:32
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Swedish_Chefargh, gnome terminal really doesn't like irssi in a screen.10:32
cafuego_Swedish_Chef: Yes it does.10:32
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dylan_delire, thanx10:33
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n0odl3does anyone know how to stop GAIM from automatically running when i start XFCE10:33
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cafuego_dirkson: I'm busy with other work atm.10:33
blankit says FILESYSTEM WAS MODIFIED, and it's done10:33
deliren0odl3: remove 'gaim' from your session manager.10:33
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Swedish_Chefcafuego_: it was randomly going blank on me, so i had to force it to redraw by switching channels :/10:33
cafuego_dirkson: Just ask on the channel.10:33
dirksonCafuego_: Ok. Thaks anyway.10:33
n0odl3delire: where do i do taht?10:33
delireblank: great, now reboot10:33
blankshould I mount it to see what it did, or should I restart and see if ubuntu boots now?10:34
blankreboot? okay10:34
deliren0odl3: sorry, i don't use xfce, so cannot help.10:34
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cafuego_Swedish_Chef: I've always run irssi in screen in gnome; it works fine. Just make sure you reattach using '-R'10:34
blankthanks delire, I really hope it works10:34
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deliren0odl3: #xfce may have help10:34
blankn0odl3: /join #xfce10:34
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tristanmikerecon0, please don't pm me, thanx10:34
recon0tristanmike, nevermind i got a nVidia10:34
delireblank: good luck. if not, report back10:34
dirksonSay- I've got a couple lines in my etc/network/interfaces that don't seem to be working... Would someone mind taking a glance at 'em and telling me what I messed up on?10:34
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deliredirkson: paste to a pastebin10:35
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tristanmikerecon0, nvidia it is, now just pick defaults for everything you don't know, which will probably be most of it, if it's blank, just hit enter/return10:35
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funkyHatis it safe to resize an ntfs partition using gparted?10:36
ProN00blol10:36
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dirksondelire: Ok, it's in the paste bin under Dirkson. Is that how I'm supposed to do it?10:36
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cafuego_funkyHat: it's not 100% safe tor esize anything.10:36
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funkyHatcafuego_, as safe as resizing ext3?10:37
erUSULfunkyHat, better from a livecd on umounted partitions10:37
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cafuego_funkyHat: I expect ext3 is safer to mange than ntfs10:37
fredforfaen!mp310:37
uboturumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)10:37
egon_spenglerfunkyHat, I have used parted to resize NTFS so you should be fairly safe10:37
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Swedish_Chefis enabling the root user and disabling sudo the only difference between installing via expert mode instead of regular?10:37
fletch33hello all any chance someone could answer an evolution ? 4 me10:37
dirksonSay- I've got a couple lines in my etc/network/interfaces that don't seem to be working... Would someone mind taking a glance at 'em and telling me what I messed up on? (It's on the pastebin under my name)10:38
recon0tristanmike, ok i'm going to try aa don't be surprised if you don't hear from me10:39
tristanmikerecon0, let's hope I don't :)10:39
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trappistfletch33: not until you ask it.10:39
dirksonfletch33: I probably won't know, but it can't hurt to ask- what do you need to know?10:39
fletch33k10:39
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fruudany one want to help me ? ( http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4378 )10:39
tristanmikerecon0, btw, I'm the same name in the game ;)10:39
fredforfaeni have a issu , i cant burn mp3's to musiccd , it complaints about some pluging...what to do?10:39
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fruudi get that from ./configure on royale KDE window decoration10:39
fletch33i am trying to import my mail from mozilla and when i go into evo it doesnt allow me to choose any file type10:39
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fletch33i need to choose mbox10:40
fredforfaen*issue10:40
Riddellfruud: install libz development files10:40
dirksonfletch33: Well, I was right, I don't know. But someone should! : )10:40
fruudknow the apt command for it ? :)10:40
recon0tristanmike, didn't work same error10:40
Red-Soxsome games' sound doesnt work in gnome but it does in fluxbox!10:40
fletch33the file type box is not lit bright10:40
tristanmikerecon0, i didn't realize you posted on pastebin, so I just noticed _that_ error10:41
trappistheh.10:41
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trappistI like 'not lit bright'.10:41
funkyHatRed-Sox, that's becuase the gnome sound manager locks the soundcard10:41
fletch33lol10:41
recon0tristanmike, oh10:41
AgrajagfunkyHat: you mean the enlightened sound daemon?10:41
Red-Soxfunkyhat: how do you unlock?10:41
fredforfaenanyone?10:41
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tristanmikerecon0, try "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" or have you already?10:41
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funkyHatRed-Sox, killall esd10:41
recon0tristanmike, nope gonna try it10:41
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funkyHatAgrajag, yes10:41
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Red-Soxfunkyhat: what does that do?10:42
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jilocasinhello all10:42
jilocasinjust installed breezy10:42
tristanmikerecon0, you may as well "sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings" too10:42
fletch33i justed started on linux last night and i can use it until i can get my email and contacts from outlook to evo or something10:42
AgrajagRed-Sox: it kills the process that has a lock on /dev/dsp10:42
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funkyHatRed-Sox, it kills the program called esd, which is the program that is locking the soundcard.10:42
jilocasintrying to get things working10:42
zack_what is up with this10:42
fredforfaencan someone help me , pls?10:42
jilocasinanyone know where I can get info?10:42
gardinmy ubuntu installer keeps hanging, and i tried with a kubuntu installer too, it freezes, and it often crashes when installing bootstrap something, sorry that i can't provide more detailed info, but anyone that has any idea?10:43
zack_i have both univereses selected and there is absolutely no UNRARA10:43
Red-Soxfunkyhat: will I have to do that every time?10:43
Agrajagjilocasin: www.ubuntulinux.com/wiki10:43
Agrajaglots of stuff there10:43
jilocasinubuntu's web site has aloy of templates, very little help10:43
Agrajagzack_: it's not in universe10:43
Agrajagit's in multiverse10:43
recon0tristanmike, gonna try aa again, same deal as last time10:43
tristanmikeAgrajag, the wiki says universe10:43
Agrajagjilocasin: what do you mean, templates?10:43
Agrajagtristanmike: unrar-nonfree?10:44
Agrajagnonfree stuff is in multiverse.10:44
fredforfaeni have a issue , i cant burn mp3's to musiccd , it complaints about some pluging...what to do?10:44
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AgrajagI promise you, unrar-nonfree is in multiverse.10:44
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gardinfredforfaen: what plugin?10:44
zack_i see main restricted universe multiverse10:44
zack_that is the only multiverse i see10:44
hypa7iaif i put a font in ~/.fonts, should i need to reload anything for them to work?10:44
funkyHatRed-Sox, you can change /etc/esound/esd.conf so the program times out and closes on it's own10:44
jilocasinlast time I went there it gave me a list of temples10:44
Agrajagzack: have you run sudo apt-get update ?10:44
fredforfaenit just says that it dont have the right plugin for mp3 gardin10:44
jilocasinthis time it seems to be working10:44
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tristanmikeAgrajag, ahh, my mistake, it's the "free" one in universe10:45
fredforfaengardin in both gnomebaker and k3b10:45
jilocasinanyone know why the update manager asked for my password, then died.10:45
zack_agrajag i dont think so10:45
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dylan_delire, hi its dylan again with the external hard disk....how do i format the entire drive at ext3?10:45
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Red-Soxfunkyhat: and how does one do that, lol10:45
Agrajagzack_: you should, otherwise it doesn't know anything about the new repositories10:45
gardinfredforfaen: ok, i'm not so in to burning cd's in linux, so sorry :P10:45
fredforfaengardin damn :(10:45
gardinhehe10:45
funkyHatRed-Sox, open the file (sudo gedit /etc/esound/esd.conf)10:45
mclaren266is ubuntu compatible with microsoft applications?10:45
zack_E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)10:45
zack_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?10:45
zack_what is that?10:45
jaimsa hi est!10:45
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zack_it opened a lot it seemed till i got to that10:46
trappistzack_: root10:46
tristanmikezack_, close synaptic10:46
gardinfredforfaen: try to google on your error message...10:46
jaimsat boot, type 'linux irqpoll'10:46
folkihi all10:46
MarcNzack_: sudo apt-get whatever10:46
trappistzack_: err, what tristanmike said10:46
fredforfaengardin ill try10:46
mclaren266is ubuntu compatible with microsoft apps?10:46
gardinwith " and "10:46
Red-Soxfunkyhat: then?10:46
erUSULzack_, please do *not* paste here10:46
AgrajagMarcN: he's running it as root, he's running another apt process10:46
erUSULmclaren266, no10:46
trappistmclaren266: with wine it can be made compatible with some of them10:46
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mclaren266which ones are?10:46
trappisterUSUL: 2 lines is probably not gonna hurt anybody10:46
folkiI would install Krusader to Ubuntu. What will I need? How can I do it? Can anybody help me please?10:47
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deliredylan_: sorry, was out/ use tune2fs -j /dev/<device> or do it within cfdisk10:47
funkyHatRed-Sox, then there are 2 lines you are interested in, line 3 and line 6. you need to change the number after -as to a low one (this is the number of seconds before the program closes on it's own)10:47
MarcNmclaren266: usually there alternatives to MS apps that perform similar tasks.10:47
trappistmclaren266: depends which flavor of wine10:47
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mclaren266ok thanks10:47
recon0tristanmike, sorry i closed client on accident10:47
deliredylan_: anyway, must split. good luck10:47
funkyHatRed-Sox, i have mine set to 1. here is my line 3: spawn_options=-terminate -nobeeps -as 1 -d hw:010:47
recon0tristanmike, the fix didn't work10:47
recon0tristanmike, i'll brb10:47
funkyHatRed-Sox, (ignore the -d hw:0 bit)10:47
Red-Soxfunkyhat: can you just pastebin it?10:47
tristanmikerecon0, ok10:47
DJHasisDoes anyone know how to configure X so that it won't say No devices found ?10:47
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funkyHatRed-Sox, i could, but i have an odd sound setup, and i may have changed other things in that file that would cause other problems for you10:48
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Tevagegreetings all10:49
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Red-Soxfunkyhat: okay...ill paste what i have put and you say if its correct...k?10:49
funkyHatRed-Sox, ok10:49
jilocasinanyone know how I can get this update thing to work?10:49
Zealot87how do i use a build.xml file to install a program?10:49
folkiIs here anybody who can give helping hand to new user of Ubuntu?10:49
funkyHat(sorry to be awkward lol)10:49
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voldemorthola10:49
Zealot87whats the command in termainl to run xml files10:50
Red-Soxfunkyhat: here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/437910:50
Tevage./10:50
MarcNZealot87: that sounds like a build file for ant.     ant install    or such usually.  You'll need java installed10:50
Zealot87ant install is the command?10:50
QRZDJHasis:  Install a video card, plug in a monitor, and run, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from the command line and follow the prompts. :-)10:50
jilocasinthis is wonky10:50
DJHasisQRZ: Thanks10:50
MarcNZealot87: ant is like make.  It follows whatever instructions are in build.xml to compile/install the program.10:50
Zealot87MarcN, yeah its a java program, so do i enter ant install build.xml10:50
dylan_can somebody help me make a valid filesystem superblock on my USB 2.0 external hard disk?  tune2fs wont let me execute -j on it10:50
jaimsbye10:50
DJHasisQRZ: I'll try10:50
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MarcNZealot87: usually     ant install       there should be a README.txt or such10:51
Red-Soxin gaim irc, is there a way to make it make a sound wen someone says something to you?10:51
jilocasinI tried running "users & groups" it started, flashed a window and died.  Tried again, and it doesn't even start10:51
funkyHatRed-Sox, that's great :)10:51
QRZDJHasis:  That assumes you installed a graphical environment, etc.10:51
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funkyHatRed-Sox, you will probably have to killall esd this once to get it using those settings10:51
DJHasisQRZ: I have gnome and kde both installed10:51
Zealot87MarcN, it says the "ant" command isnt found10:51
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lagahello.10:52
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QRZDJHasis:  Then you should be in business :-)10:52
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Zealot87MarcN, which is strange because I have java installed and have used iot10:52
Red-Soxfunkyhat: okay, ill save it:-D thank you soooooooooooooooo much,10:52
MarcNZealot87: then you need to install ant.  apt-get install ant10:52
liz4rdbluefrog-10!!!!! DUDE!!!10:52
funkyHatRed-Sox, np :)10:52
jilocasincan't su?!?!?!?10:52
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bluefrog-10liz4rd, yes10:52
MarcNZealot87: you'll need to have the JDK (dev kit) installed, not just the JRE (run time environment)10:52
liz4rdwtf10:52
bluefrog-10liz4rd, almost done10:52
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liz4rdbluefrog-10, why arnt you answering in the window...10:52
Zealot87MarcN, ok Ill go do that, thanks for the help10:52
bluefrog-10have left u a readme on your desktop10:52
blackhatwhats the program to rip dvds in linux like you can in windows w/ dvddecrypter10:53
Royzerhello everyone:) I've just installed Ubunto and I love it:) but.. I cant get acces to my harddrives:P anyone who'd be so kind and tell me how to gain acces?10:53
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blackhatRoyzer what type is it?, like a windows hard drive?10:53
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ompaulRoyzer, Utoto or Ubuntu ?10:53
Royzerthey've got NTFS but, they should be readable : \10:53
Royzerubunto10:54
blackhatYeah they are readable as like as you know what your doing10:54
liz4rdlol10:54
blackhatdo you know what /dev/ your hd is10:54
liz4rdubuntu10:54
ompaulRoyzer, ubuntu10:54
DJHasisQRZ: I hope so :(10:54
ompaul!tell Royzer about ntfs10:54
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erUSUL!tell Royzer about windowsdrives10:54
jilocasinquitsu10:54
ompaulRoyzer, read the message from ubotu the channel bot10:54
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Cran1988!tell Royzer about ntfs10:54
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blackhatim sure he knows by now lol10:55
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ompaulCran1988, ehh I may have beaten you with that10:55
PoTshow do i make thunderbird the default email client?10:55
ericI'm about to change from an ASUS A7V880 (KT880 chipset) to an ABIT NF7 (NForce2 chipset).  In the past, doing with Windows would require either a repair or a fresh format & reinstall.  Will I require a fresh install of Ubuntu as well?10:55
Tank-Is there a known problem with breazy's xserver-xorg-core_6.8.2-77_i386 package ?10:55
Tank-i keep getting  unable to create `./usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a': No such file or directory10:55
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tekeohello guys ;)10:56
trappisteric: no.  all your drivers are built into the kernel package.  you might need to reconfigure some things, is all.10:56
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Zealot87is it possible to get onto a set of windows servers that my school has running?10:56
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Cran1988 !tell Royzer about ftp10:56
lagai've just installed ubuntu 5.10. when i click on "install applications" or "update system" (rough translations, sorry), nothing happens. this is probably related to sudo/gksudo, I think. when i do an "gksudo gnome-app-install", for example, it does *nothing*. any suggestions?10:56
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ompaulPoTs,  system -preferences -preferred applications :: custom command >> mozilla-thunderbird %s <<10:56
Cran1988 !tell Royzer about fat3210:57
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lagaby "nothing", i mean that i'm returned to the shell prompt :)10:57
erictrappist: that's a relief :)10:57
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ompaulCran1988, you can /msg ubotu about X10:57
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isaihi10:58
Xyc0Is there a project that allows you to onetime reboot onto another GRUB entry, like say M$usx?10:58
Cran1988thnx10:58
DJHasishmmm "Skipping "/usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o": No symbols found10:58
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recon0tristanmike, i'm finally back10:58
ZambbaIs there a easy-to-use and simple GUI tool for configuring iptables?10:58
ompaulXyc0, just press escape as when the machine gets to the grub menu then choose the o/s it is fastest10:58
LathropWellsfirestarter firewall for iptables10:59
erUSULZambba, firestarter??10:59
tristanmikerecon0, ok, did you restart?10:59
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recon0???10:59
isaiI got a message today telling me to look at ubuntulinux.org so that i can update to breezy (I am on hoary). Where specifically on the site can I look for the instructions?10:59
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recon0tristanmike, no, i was just at dinner10:59
Zealot87is there a popcorn nuking time estimator for Ubuntu? because I always burn my popcorn!10:59
tristanmikerecon0, after you installed settings and glx?10:59
Xyc0ompaul: I meant from like ubuntu, im not fast enought aka too lazy to try and time the grub entry change10:59
recon0tristanmike, whoops. I better do that.11:00
recon0tristanmike, brb11:00
ompaulisai, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade11:00
tristanmikerecon0, yup11:00
isaitnx11:00
ompaulisai,  it is in the topic for the channel :-)11:00
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gardinomg, after like 10 retries to install ubuntu, it seems to work :D *wee*11:00
ArnoudDeVrieslol Zealot87 i remember a tea time program in kde a few years ago11:00
erUSUL!tell isai about breezy11:00
Tevagelol11:00
fruudanyone know how to install KDE window decorations ? always get errors on configuring... :(11:00
DJHasisQRZ: I did the reconfig and I still get the same error reports11:00
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Zealot87ArnoudDeVries, well I will look into it, and see if we can get it working for Popcorn making! popcorn making is such an unstable business endeavor!11:00
DJHasisit says also that no symbols found when loading libGLcore.a11:00
PoTsompaul: Thanks it works.  I was using mozilla-thunderbird -mail %s.  Don't know why i used the -mail.11:01
ArnoudDeVriesright ;)11:01
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Zealot87hehe11:01
ompaulXyc0, then you will have to use a lot of energy to manually change the value for "default" in grub and make it the entry for windows11:01
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PoTsis it possible to uninstall evolution?11:01
ompaulXyc0, sudo nano /boot/grub/nano.list11:02
Xyc0ompaul: I know how to edit the menu list, I was just looking for a program that allowed a onetime boot change11:02
PoTswhen i try ubuntu also wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop11:02
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Xyc0ompaul: um  /boot/grub/menu.lst11:02
Polaris_Pythonhi, does anyone know in which package can I find the libglade bindings for python11:02
ompaulXyc0, there is that11:02
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QRZDJHasis:  Bummer!  Is the video adapter being recognized during autodetection?  If not, you might need to edit your xorg.conf file manually and enter the bus id for it.11:03
DJHasisPoTs: Try sudo apt-get remove evolution11:03
DJHasisQRZ: It recornizes it11:03
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ompaulXyc0, man grub I guess - maybe you should make the break longer in grub to say 10 seconds and the you get plenty of time to hit esc, there is most likley something out there to use as your shutdown line11:03
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QRZDJHasis:  What is the error you get when gdm tries to start?11:03
DJHasisit says the correct name but I'm not sure that does it understand that it is in the pci-express-port and not in the agp11:04
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defcon8i put the essential codecs in /usr/local/lib/codecs but mplayer isnt finding wmvdmod.dll . what to do?11:04
PoTsDJHasis: this also wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop11:04
ompaulPoTs, that is a meta package no problem with that11:04
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defcon8anyone?11:05
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ubuntuHi, I am trying to resize my root partition using parted, but something strange is happening. I deleted the partition 10, next to the root one (9), and typed resize but nothing has changed. Can someone help me? Should I print the relevant lines here or at #flood?11:05
DJHasisQRZ: it saus that no symbols found, no devices found, no sreens found11:05
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QRZDJHasis:  Also, what video adapter are you using?11:05
erUSULdefcon8, put it in /usr/lib/win32/11:05
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DJHasisI have ati radeon 85011:06
PoTsompaul: ok, thanks11:06
erUSULubuntu, you should put resize 9 start end11:06
recon0tristanmike, holy ____, there is a new error at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4380 . I swear, that game is FUBAR.11:06
DJHasisI have ati radeon X850 pro11:06
ompauldefcon8, a sim link to /usr/lib/win32/ may be of use to you11:06
ubuntuerUSUL: I did it, resize 9 resize 9 21846 22222. Look my print: 9      21846,234  22034,465  logical   ext3        boot11:07
ompaul!tell DJHasis about ati11:07
ubuntu10     22222,758  23179,724  logical   ext311:07
RoyzerI'm abit new to linux and its filesystem so took me awhile to find it, and the harddrives are in /dev/ and it says that only root has acces to 'em. I tried loggin in as root but coudn't : \11:07
defcon8thanks :D11:07
erUSULubuntu, iirci11:07
ompaulDJHasis, please do not aske me about ati I know nothing else11:07
CoringaoOla amigos! Tem Brasileiros aqui???11:07
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ompaul!tell Coringao about es11:08
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ompaul!es11:08
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:08
benplautis there a (hopefully simple) way to let an ubuntu box connect to a windows domain? the macs in the system connect in a way that mac specific settings are stored on the server, but files are in the roaming profile, and thus available apon logging in. any way to do this, possibly logging in from gdm?11:08
ubuntuerUSUL: What?11:08
ompaulbenplaut, there is a samba client that is all I know11:08
erUSULompaul, Coringao is brasilian11:08
ompaul!pt11:08
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.11:08
CoringaoComo faz isso amigo?11:08
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ompaulerUSUL, some of us don't know the difference :)11:09
benplautompaul: yeah... that's all anyone seems to know :(11:09
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tristanmikerecon0, that error looks familiar. You might wanna try that sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or uninstall/reinstall, you may have needed to install the glx and settings first.11:09
erUSULubuntu, if i recall correctly (iirci)11:09
ompaulbenplaut, well I am sure that there is a faq on google that explains it all, or something on the samba site it is a huge project11:09
recon0tristanmike, just pick nv driver and defaults all the way, right?11:09
QRZDJHasis:  Did you install xorg-driver-fglrx yet?11:10
CoringaoSocorro! pode me ensinar como entra no Ubuntu-BR?11:10
erUSULompaul, i'm spanish (Galizian) so i do tell the diference ;)11:10
ompaulerUSUL, ahh11:10
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ompaulCoringao, #ubuntu-BR11:10
erUSULCoringao, use o comando /join do seu cliente de irc11:10
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GermanCoringao, Servidor /  entrar a canal / then  you type #ubuntu-br11:11
erUSULCoringao, /join #ubuntu-br11:11
benplautompaul: yeah... i searched this for a week a few months ago, there seems to be nothing on it... nobody even seems to know what this type of login is called...11:11
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ompaulbenplaut, the login to windows? which kind of windows box?11:11
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ubuntuerUSUL: But I am asking about parted :-?11:11
tristanmikerecon0, sorry, if nvidia isn't available, yest11:11
P229anyone have any success with the ipod shuffle in 5.10?11:12
storixrichthis is probably going to be a common question, but i am unable to print with lpr command. i have a network printer and i can print a test page, as well as oofice docs. but when i try to print a pdf file using lpr i get the following error "lpr: error - scheduler not responding!"11:12
benplautompaul: win server 2003. all the lab computers are hooked up so that you can login to the server from any computer, access your files, and program settings, but the programs are on individual computers... i think it's called a roaming profile11:12
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erUSULubuntu, i do not know why it fails. i asume that when you type print nothin changed11:13
lavandergirlhi11:13
QRZDJHasis:  Well anyway, good luck with it... I'm off to bed now!11:13
ompaulbenplaut, I guess you need to talk to #windows they have a channel here11:13
recon0 sorry, parents say i need to get off computer.11:13
DJHasisQRZ: yep11:13
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benplautk11:13
DJHasisand now I'm trying editing the xf86conf11:13
DJHasisQRZ: Okay11:13
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DJHasiscya11:13
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fletch33ok i found this but since i am a complete noob i dont know how to do it11:14
fletch33To import contacts.csv into Evolution you will have to run each .csv11:14
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fletch33file through the attached Perl script (csv2vcard.pl). Download11:14
fletch33csv2vcard.pl into your home directory and make the script executable by11:14
fletch33running this command:11:14
fletch33$ chmod +x ~/csv2vcard.pl11:14
fletch33Run this script to convert contacts.csv to contacts.vcf:11:14
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fletch33$ ./csv2vcard.pl contacts.csv contacts.vcf11:14
QRZDJHasis:  Wish I had time to help further but I have to be up in 5 and a half hours!11:14
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blackhathow can I remove things from the gnome menu, an application I uninstalled still remains there.11:14
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kenany general linux techs here who know how to set up a tar.gz download from web in terminal to ubuntu11:14
action09hi all ! :) i've got application bug ( closing when going on certain link (firefox/liferea) do i submit a bug report ?11:14
action09is it a good idea ?11:14
trappistken: yep11:14
Red-Soxaction09: what limk?11:14
kenhow?11:15
Red-Soxlink*11:15
dirksonSay, I've got a few error lines coming up when I boot. (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4381) Can anyone give me some hints on what might be causing these things?11:15
davidatstorixkent: use the command wget or curl.11:15
trappistken: well first you extract the tarball (tar zxf file.tar.gz) then you look at what was extracted.11:15
tekeohi, I want to put up a grub splash scrren how to do that?11:15
keni did that11:15
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duke3zanyone know why my usr/bin/ld is missing?11:15
trappistken: a .tar.gz is sorta like a zip.  you untar it, but not all of them have the same kinds of contents.11:16
duke3zer was never there11:16
davidatstorixtar -zxvf11:16
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action09Red-Sox in liferea e.g. i tell it to open links in liferea (browsing) and when i open links from linuxtoday.org  it close liferea, and for firefox.. i dunno when.why but sometimes , it close itself while i did not do anything :(11:16
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kenthis is 2-d graphical chat server11:16
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tekeoI want to put up a grub splash scrren how to do that?11:16
funkyHatcafuego_, compared to resizing ntfs, how safe would you say moving and resizing a vfat partition is?11:16
LathropWells!grub11:16
uboturumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting11:16
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kenon http://practice.chatserve.com having real problem installing it11:17
LathropWellshm - not there  is it?11:17
Red-Soxaction06: hmm.i.dont.know.what.could.be.the.problem.that.is.very.interesting.11:17
Red-Sox09*11:17
benplautompaul: in #windows... i ask what it's called, i get "A typical school setup?"11:17
benplautand one of the op's handles is lilo :D11:17
nosilver4uanyone here used mdadm before?11:17
Agrajaglilo runs this network11:17
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blackhat!enlightenment11:18
ubotu[enlightenment]  at Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work; install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4610511:18
benplautoh11:18
blackhatIs there anyway to get DR1711:18
RWGUmm11:18
benplautAgrajag: still, kinda ironic :/11:18
tekeohello any1 got the knowledge to put up a splashscreen?11:18
keni switched from grub to lilo got less lag11:18
Stormx2where is that sources.list generator?11:18
RWGHow long does a shipment of Ubuntu CDs take?11:18
RWGIt has been 4 months11:18
darkheartblackhat Download the CVS source.11:18
erUSULdirkson, i have the same errors too is harmless. you do not have lvm volumes and the boot process won't find it11:18
Stormx2RWG: Took months for me too11:18
tristanmikeStormx2, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:18
action09Red-Sox So i asking myslef if it's a bug and if necessary to submit a bug is a good idea ?11:18
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RWGI wish I had some blank CDs...11:19
RWGlol11:19
RWGI'm a Yankees fa, Red-Sox11:19
RWGHow ironic11:19
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dirksonErusul: Ahhhh, ok........ Then, unfortunately, it must be something -else- that's making my boot run like molasses : (11:20
os2machave they started shipping CD's yet?11:20
tekeohaha...11:20
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blackhatYankees EWWWW11:20
blackhatRed-Sox are terrible too, but I'm not a baseball fan11:20
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darkheartIt's a bit off-topic anyway.11:21
kenif ur on windows u can d/l the iso and burn with deepburner11:21
blackhatyeah ;-)11:21
darkheart=)11:21
n0odl3when i was booting up i got this message11:21
n0odl3Checking root file system11:21
os2macwhen I go to ship-it they say sent to shipping company....11:21
n0odl3system has been mounted 30 times without being checked11:21
n0odl3check forced11:21
n0odl31% non-contagious11:22
n0odl3what does this mean?11:22
trappistcontiguous11:22
Xenguyn0odl3: that's normal11:22
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n0odl3Xenguy: how is that normal?11:22
trappistnon-contiguous = fragmented11:22
trappist1% fragmented11:22
erUSULn0odl3, yes11:22
darkheartLOL @ contagious.11:22
trappistor your filesystem is 99% infectious disease11:23
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n0odl3sohow do u degrac=g>11:23
n0odl3how do i defrag11:23
n0odl3?11:23
n0odl3i thought linux never has to defrag?11:23
trappistn0odl3: you don't.  it happens automatically.11:23
darkhearttrappist ;P Now wouldn't that be funny11:23
blackhatdarkheart i know this is a little late of a response but where can I get the CVS for enlightenment 1711:23
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n0odl3trappist: is that what the message was?11:23
blankwhere can I find my grub conf11:23
ericWhy is it that when I go to install K3B through the Synaptic Package Manager, that it wants to remove Skype & libqt3c102-mt??11:24
darkheartblackhat All you need to get E17 up and running is on http://get-e.org/11:24
keni'm in terminal i wget file from http://practice.chatserve.com/extras/pserver-4.5.1.i686-unknown-linux.tar.gz it downloads but how do i install11:24
blondieblank: in /etc ?11:24
blackhatthank you.11:24
blondiemaybe11:24
darkheartblackhat All the info, that is.11:24
trappistn0odl3: no.  it happens all the time.  it did a check to see how fragmented the fs is, and right now it's 1% which is great.11:24
blank/etc/grub.conf?11:24
darkheartblackhat You should take note though, E17 is not a release yet. As such, getting it to work and customizing it can be hackerish.11:24
trappiste17 is a nightmare.11:25
n0odl3trappist: so it automatically defragmented... How often will this happen?11:25
blondieblank: try "locate grub.conf"11:25
n0odl3trappist: this is the first time it happened to me11:25
blanknothing11:25
blondie(I don't appear to have that file)11:25
trappistn0odl3: depends on your filesystem.  some do it on every write, some do it every 5 seconds, etc.11:25
n0odl3trappist: write?11:25
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trappistn0odl3: it's just doing a check because it's the 30th time it's been cleanly remounted.11:25
lavandergirlhow much extra space does the live cd gove me?11:25
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blankhey someone where can I find my grub file11:25
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darkheartn0odl3 You don't really have to worry about fragmentation on Linux filesystems..11:25
paul_#join mysql11:26
n0odl3trappist:i see... so the next time this happens will be when i mount root on the 60th time?11:26
Xenguyn0odl3: you pasted it above - every 30 mounts/reboots11:26
erUSULn0odl3, no it not defragmented it is fsck'ed every 30 boots11:26
darkheartblank /boot/grub11:26
trappistn0odl3: 30 mounts from now or the next time you shut down improperly11:26
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ubuntu_hola11:26
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userphpHello I'd need someone who can help me in very basic PHP11:26
trappistuserphp: /join #php11:26
nicholas1paulhow basic?11:26
ubuntu_hello11:26
darkheartuserphp I would guess the folks in #php11:27
dirksonOh! Here's an easy one- How do I shutdown xwindows and get to the command prompt? Any normal way to do that?11:27
blankI cant find my grub.conf! :(11:27
darkheart...though they tend to be a bit elitist at times...11:27
userphpbut I don't know if my problem is due to Breezy config error11:27
trappistdirkson: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop11:27
n0odl3trappist: i c.... thank you11:27
blanknevermind, my menu.lst is the entries thing right11:27
erUSULlavandergirl, ?? extra space? the live cd does not have estra space you only have your ram to write on.11:27
nicholas1paulshoto userphp11:27
n0odl3trappist: i thought i had some virus or something11:27
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nicholas1pauli mean, shoot userphp11:27
userphpnicholas1paul, why?11:27
trappistn0odl3: you aren't likely to ever get a virus in linux11:27
nicholas1pauluserphp: I mean 'shoot, tell us, go ahead'11:28
nadjylalol11:28
userphpOK11:28
dirksontappist: Thanks a bunch! : )11:28
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dirkson*trappist11:28
erUSULdirkson, Crtl + Alt + Fn will bring you a login screen Crtl + Alt F7 to go back to X11:28
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n0odl3trappist: thank you for the reassurace ^_^11:28
lavandergirlerUSUL, yea actually that makes sence *blush*11:28
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userphpmy php scripts can't execute "if ($id)" instructions11:28
axeltrappist: about my "c compiler cannot create executables" error from ealier, just to say that i needed to install libc-dev... thought u might want to know11:28
userphpfor example11:29
DJHasisNice that the atibinarydriverhowto didn't much help me11:29
ericWhy is it that when I go to install K3B through the Synaptic Package Manager, that it wants to remove Skype & libqt3c102-mt??11:29
erUSULlavandergirl, ;)11:29
trappistDJHasis: it helps everybody else.  I suspect operator error.11:29
kenlinux is the easist system i seen to blow just one wrong file in place the whole system crashes11:29
nicholas1pauluserphp - you mean conditional statements?11:29
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userphpif I assign a variable through the browser querystring11:29
DJHasisNow I get an error that module load failure11:29
lavandergirlerUSUL, i blame it on the time, 10:30 is way past my bedtime ;)11:29
trappistuserphp: register globlas11:29
trappist*globals11:29
darkhearteric Probably package dependency conflicts.11:29
userphpyes, cond. statement without parameter11:29
DJHasistrappist: ?11:30
trappistuserphp: it's insecure and therefore disabled11:30
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nicholas1pauluserphp thats not a ubuntu issue.11:30
userphptrappist, I'm learning php (1st day) :)11:30
ericdarkheart: so in other words, there's no way to run Skype and K3B without conflicts??11:30
trappistuserphp: use $_REQUEST['id'] 11:30
darkheartken You can destroy a few OSes by removing certain key files.11:30
blankis there a thing I can use to edit my grub entries11:30
fletch33i know this is going to sound dumb but i want ot get ths software and it is asking me what ver. i want and my choices are NLD,IDS, and Fedora Core 211:30
nicholas1pauluserphp you have either a syntax error, or the var. is not known.11:30
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erUSULlavandergirl, well not in spain for a fryday night 23:30 here and counting... :D11:30
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RWGFearan11:30
keni crashed by adding a file11:30
RWGomg11:30
nicholas1pauluserphp - that other guy was right -> #php :) good luck11:30
trappistnicholas1paul: the var is not known because register_globals is disabled11:31
Fearanhey rwg11:31
klemenshello11:31
RWGyou are here, too11:31
RWGlol11:31
DJHasisblank: use a text-editor for example nano or vim11:31
Fearanyes i am11:31
Fearani run ubuntu11:31
kenusing webmin11:31
RWGwhoa11:31
nicholas1paultrappist yup.11:31
darkhearteric I'm not gonna say for sure yes, but it may turn out that way if they prevent each other from install dependent packages.11:31
userphptrappist, if ($_REQUEST['id'] ) ?11:31
GregAschehow can I disable that message that plays whenever I go to open a .wmv file?11:31
DJHasisblank: grub-entries are located at /boot/grub/menu.lst11:31
nicholas1pauluserphp - i strongly suggest you try #php11:31
GregAscheit tells me the file type is asf, and I have to right click and open the file11:31
kennewbie learning trying too give linux a chance11:31
userphpok, thank you - so it's not a Breezy thingy11:31
userphpsaved me a lot of trouble11:31
fletch33no it isnt11:32
nicholas1paulno userphp its not.11:32
nicholas1paulnp11:32
hubuntumorning...11:32
userphpvery kind of you11:32
trappistuserphp: yes11:32
nicholas1paul:)11:32
fletch33can someone answer this i know this is going to sound dumb but i want ot get ths software and it is asking me what ver. i want and my choices are NLD,IDS, and Fedora Core 211:32
ericdarkheart:  Does this happen often?  I need Skype, but I also need something to burn CD's...11:32
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n0odl3trappist: since it was 1% fragmented when it "checked" does this mean during that "check" the system was being defragmented?11:32
kencan't seem to install any software unless its in the repository11:32
trappistnicholas1paul: in other words it's partly ubuntu-specific.  many distros enable register_globals, so it would work out of the box on other distros11:32
blackhatwhats the program to rip dvds in linux like you can in windows w/ dvddecrypter11:32
nicholas1pauli have trouble of my own!! :-) Anyone familiar with the MA111 USB wifi adapter? I'm trying to get it working in ubuntu - anyone experienced?11:32
Sanneuserphp: this explains $_POST, $_GET and $_REQUEST: http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.variables.external.php11:32
trappistn0odl3: it defragments constantly11:33
n0odl3trappist: i see11:33
darkheartken You can't install packages through a package manager from anything but a repository.11:33
nicholas1pauloh i see trappist.11:33
blankhow can I see if my menu.lst for grub was modified correctly, just reboot? what if it didnt, use knoppix to fix it?11:33
n0odl3trappist: ok thank you... i guess its no longer 1% fragmented?11:33
kenanyway i can add downloaded packages to repository11:33
trappistuserphp: it sort of is an ubuntu thing - many distros enable register_globals11:33
darkhearteric What is the exact error?11:33
trappistn0odl3: it's almost never 0%.  stop worrying about it.11:33
erUSULeric, probably skype uses and older version of qt than k3b...11:33
darkheartn0odl3 Yes, 1% fragmentation is nothing.11:33
blankI edited my grub menu.lst file11:34
blankjust reboot to see if it worked?11:34
darkheartn0odl3 You will never maintain a 100% unfragmented filesystem for any length of time.11:34
blankanyone?11:34
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trappistblank: yes11:34
erUSULeric, try gnomebaker or graveman11:34
darkheartn0odl3 I take that back. If you don't ever use your computer it's possible =)11:34
blankwhat happens if it doesnt11:34
blankthough I'm sure it does11:34
blanknevermind I'll just reboot11:34
n0odl3darkheart: lol11:34
Snuffiijest tu jakis polak??11:34
Snuffiimusze pogadac!!11:34
n0odl3thank you everyone for answering my questions11:34
Pyginp11:34
ericThere isn't an error.  Synaptec package manager just marks Skype and qt for removal when I go to install K3B.  I'll look into gnomebaker or graveman.  Thanks for the help =)11:34
darkhearteric Hmm..okay, if you run the command from a terminal though, does it give you anymore info? Like 'sudo apt-get install k3b'11:35
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darkheartn0odl3 Have fun.11:35
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darkheart!pl11:36
ubotudarkheart: I give up, what is it?11:36
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keni see the repository files but when trying to drag a download in says i don't have permission anyway to add downloaded files to repository11:36
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darkheartken Are you trying to install a program?11:36
mumblesis there anyway i can addmylef to toe suduser list?11:36
kenyes11:36
mumblesi managed to take my own admin status away11:36
blackhatwhats the program to rip dvds in linux like you can in windows w/ dvddecrypter, anyone!11:36
ericdarkheart: The following packages will be REMOVED: libqt3c102-mt skype11:37
darkheartken System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager.11:37
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trappistblackhat: there's a lot of them.  try DVD::Rip11:37
kenbeen there this a download from web11:37
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erUSULmumbles, if you are already there (with other user) yes11:37
Cran1988 !tell isai about dns11:37
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darkheartmumbles If you don't have superuser privileges you can't add yourself back =\ You will have to go into single-user mode.11:37
mumbles:(11:37
mumblesi still dont know what i did11:37
mumbles:p11:37
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darkhearteric Hmm...I guess you're stuck then >< I'm not sure if there is or isn't a workaround for that other than installing a different burning soft.11:38
mumblescan i hack it though the "safemode"?11:38
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hubuntumumbles do you have somo other users with sudo privileges?11:38
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mumblesi do11:38
ericdarkheart: thanks again for the help, graveman looks promising and doesn't seem to want to remove any of my existing apps, so i'm going to give that whirl :)11:39
darkheartmumbles Yes, safe mode = Windows term, single-user mode = Linux =P11:39
mumblesbut cant get hold of him11:39
mumblesah right11:39
darkhearteric =) good luck11:39
hubuntulog into one of them and give yourself back those privileges ;) !11:39
mumblesi would do11:39
hubuntui see...11:39
fletch33can u tell me if ubuntu is fedora core 2, nld, or what11:39
fletch33thanks11:39
darkheartmumbles But yeah, if you have another user with su permissions, that's a lot easier.11:39
hubuntuubuntu is ubuntu.. the closest you will get is debian11:39
hubuntunld=novell linux desktop11:39
darkheartfletch33 Ubuntu is debian-based.11:40
ericdarkheart: thanks =)11:40
fletch33k thanks11:40
darkheart=)11:40
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hubuntufletch what are you trying to install anyway?11:40
Claudehello I'm seeking help for 5.10 Breezy badger11:40
fletch33if some has a sec could they look at this and tell me if it will work   http://www.resolvo.com/products/moveover/index.htm11:40
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mumblesbuggerit11:41
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mumblesim just going to download breazey badger and start again11:41
blankhey guys...uh...I dont know if I install right, cause like, my repositories are just one11:41
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blankand my system is 'up to date'11:41
blankhow can I check waht version of ubuntu I have11:41
erUSULClaude, ask the channel11:41
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ClaudeI have breezy badger 5.10 of a DVD version and I can'tinstall .deb packages11:41
JaivazI found Bulldozer on gnomefiles.org and I have tried to install it. However, it tells me that I need libnautilus. I did a search for it and I can't find it11:41
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erUSULblackhat, cat /etc/lsb-release11:42
blankany help?11:42
darkheartClaude Stick to using the repositories when you can.11:42
hubuntufetch im on it.. ill take a look.. are you using breezy 5.10?11:42
blankCan someone tell me how to find out what version of ubuntu I'm running11:42
fletch33not sure i just loaded this last night11:42
Claudehow do I install opera on 5.10 then?11:42
erUSULblank, cat /etc/lsb-release11:43
RustyJugglerI am trying to install the official NVIDIA drivers, but I get several errors. I have the wrong version of gcc (4.0 instead of 3.4). I have installed both, how do I chose which one to use11:43
blanknevermind it's 5.10 alright11:43
erUSULblackhat, sorry tab completion mistake.. O:)11:43
darkheart!tell Claude about opera11:43
blankfor some reason...my update manager says I'm up to date, when usually I have to like, download all these updates and stuff11:43
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darkheartClaude The link at the end may help you.11:43
blackhatlol ;-)11:43
Blippeeric, it would be better to follow lhtown from http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77189.html11:43
blackhatI just saw my name and im like uhh11:43
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erUSULRustyJuggler, export CC=gcc-3.4 on the shell you are using11:44
Blippeeric, and then get k3b11:44
mumbleswonders whats going to download first11:44
mumblesdebian or ubuntu11:44
fletch33thanks hu11:44
Claudehow i install .deb packages on ubuntu 5.10?11:44
tristanmikeClaude, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb11:44
darkheartClaude 'dpkg -i package.deb'11:44
blankGUYS I NEED HELP IM CONFUSED *panting* when I go to my repositories, it only shows 'CD Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger"', WHATS WRONG! :'(11:44
blankI think this is why I cant get updates11:45
darkheart!tell blank about repositories11:45
tristanmikeClaude, errr, sudo depending on what it is11:45
Claudeok11:45
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blankdarkheart I already frickin know about repositories11:45
blankis anyone willing to listen to me explain11:45
erUSUL!tell blank about repos11:45
Claudek11:45
Pygiblank: ah, find sources.list and enable repositories there11:45
darkheartblank That's not a very nice attitude to ask for help.11:45
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blanksorry, it's just that you dont listen :(11:45
RustyJugglerI also get an error if I continue with the 4.0 version. It can't find nvidia.ko or something. It says it has compiled for the wrong kernel, but my kernel source is the right one11:45
Pygiblank: go to sources.list and enable repositories11:46
erUSULblank, read what ubotu told you11:46
blankwatch, earlier I was having probs with my ubuntu, so I reinstalled, same cd and all, and usually it has the repositories and it gives me all these updates to download as soon as I start, but now, none of the repositories are there and no updates11:46
blankGuys, I already know how to add repositotires, what I'm saying is that, usually the repositories are there and now they're not11:46
erUSUL!tell RustyJuggler about nvidia11:47
hubuntufletch33 I have seen that  before... Well.. my shot would be at the v4 for linspire.. even though I do not have much love left for linspire (never have, never will) it is debian based... i mean "if anything" that is the one that should work. Now there is a lot of differences in packages and generally things between ubuntu and linspire (among others gnome - try the KDE based kubuntu - it might give you some more luck) it may work.. who knows..11:47
blankdeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908)] / breezy main restricted11:47
blankis what it has11:47
blankI think I installed wrong :'(11:47
Xenguyblank: tried 'apt-get setup' ?11:47
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hubuntuanother way to do it is just start all over again. collect your mail from now on in ubuntu and well... go on!11:47
blankinvalid operation setup11:47
blankI think it's that though, cause I think I skipped that step in installation :'(11:48
erUSULblank, edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly11:48
fletch33thanks i am lsing my mind o nthis contacts and email from outlook issue11:48
blankXenguy: :( I think I skipped the apt get setup step in installation11:48
blankhow can I do it11:48
blankagain11:48
hubuntufletch33... is it the first time you try linux?11:48
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blankXenguy! :'(11:48
mdkehowdy11:48
fletch33last night i started and staed up till 4 am11:48
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blankman and I thought I'd installed it right this time11:48
fletch33i do not even know how to install anyhting11:49
alewiso.O11:49
Xenguyblank: listen, either do 'sudo apt-setup', or else do $EDITOR /etc/apt/sources.list11:49
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fletch33completely lost11:49
fletch33lol11:49
erUSULblank, replace your /etc/sources.list with the one ubotu told you11:49
hubuntu:) Think of this as the first steps of your way in ubuntu land... noce you see the dawn and the horizon shine you will never go back!11:49
alewisUbuntu has apt-get right (I assume from our tip about fletch33 )11:49
blank*wipes tear* okay xenguy, I think I got it11:49
fbafelipeI have two devices conected on sound (any one conected directly with the computer), and the sound goes only to the first. How do I configure to the sound output go to both?11:49
Blippe!tell Blippe about repositories11:49
fletch33well i am ing really frustrated to say the least11:49
dell500how do you get dual monitors to work with fglrx?11:50
Blippe!sources11:50
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:50
hubuntuI understand. Well what do you use? Outlook express or Office outlook?11:50
blank*sob* *hugs xenguy* thanks bud! :'(11:50
fletch33i just want my e,ail and contacts and i will take my time on the rest11:50
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Shithole2khi11:50
fletch33office 200311:50
fletch33outlook11:50
Shithole2kI need some desperate help11:50
Xenguyblank: stop sobbing all over us :-)11:50
hubuntuok11:50
blankI never thought I'd be happy to download all these frickin updates (takes me hours)11:51
Shithole2kwhere do I get the fstab?11:51
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erUSULShithole2k, ask11:51
fletch33i am almost there but evolution wont give me the option to choose my file type when importing so i am stuck11:51
hubuntugive me 5 minutes and i'll figure out something.. by the way. Do you have your e-mail lying on a server? or access to a IMAP server or the like? (mail server)11:51
alewishah11:51
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erUSULShithole2k, /etc/fstab11:51
JaivazHas anyone installed "Bulldozer"?11:51
alewishrmm >.> <.< inconito11:51
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fletch33i have it converted by mozilla and on an external11:51
bacamIs something up with Ubuntu's bugzilla?11:52
Shithole2kMy girlfriend's got a virus and I'm trying to fix it with a Live boot of Ubuntu11:52
Shithole2kBut I can't see my harddrive anywhere11:52
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erUSULShithole2k, less /etc/fstab to see it. if you know what you are doing nano /etc/fstab to edit it11:52
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bacamI keep getting "You must choose a component to file this bug in" when submitting a bug, but there's no way to select a component...11:52
hubuntuok... Everybody: can mozilla thunderbird convert the mailbox to mbox so Evolution can import it on ubuntu?11:53
DreamfluiderUSUL, where do I enter that?11:53
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stjernjerryhello11:53
Riddellbacam: fill in the Package field11:53
SanneerUSUL, Dreamfluid: isn't there a tool called disk manager (or similar) for accessing partitions?11:53
fletch33i did that11:53
erUSULhubuntu, thunderbird uses mbox you can convert directly11:53
fletch33hu11:53
Spurty!setinfo11:54
Spurty<Shithole2k> My girlfriend's got a virus and I'm trying to fix it with a Live boot of Ubuntu11:54
ubotuSpurty: I give up, what is it?11:54
fletch33i have it converted11:54
DreamfluidI've tried the console, but that just gives me "root has to do that11:54
stjernjerryi need help!11:54
bacamRiddell: I did.  Curiously it's disappeared when I go back after getting the error.11:54
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hubuntuok.. what you have to do then is just import the file you have from firefox in the ubuntu e-mail program (which is called evolution ;)11:54
erUSULDreamfluid, if you are in a livecd it won't work you have to maunt the disk manually11:54
DreamfluidSanne, yeah, but the activate button doesn't do shit.11:54
hubuntusudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/disk011:55
stjernjerryim have been a windows user until today11:55
SanneDreamfluid: funny, as I tried it on my system with the live cd, it worked.11:55
fletch33it wont import because when i get to file type evo wont let me choose anything11:55
erUSULDreamfluid, use mount -t [fstype]  /dev/hdxx /mnt/11:55
stjernjerryand i want to know how to install programs11:55
DreamfluiderUSUL: Mount the disc manually? You mean before boot or..?11:55
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SanneDreamfluid: did you specify a mount point (and created this directory beforehand)?11:55
RustyJugglerWhen I boot Ubuntu I see that HP printer driver and bluetooth devices start, is this something I can turn off, I don't have either11:55
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fletch33i am gettin some dinner before i lose it. i will try back later thanks for your help11:56
hubuntufletch if im not wrong i think you may have got at least to files from thunderbird with different extensions... try both...11:56
DJHasis!tell DJHasis about ati11:56
dell500how do you find out if 3d accel is work in console?11:56
blank!tell me too11:56
erUSULDreamfluid, for ex. sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/ to mount the usual C: of win11:56
fletch33i tried both11:56
hubuntuI just imported my mbox from my old hard drive to this one with breezy.. it worked fine11:56
fbafelipeI have two devices conected on sound (any one conected directly with the computer), and the sound goes only to the first. How do I configure to the sound output go to both devices?11:56
blank!tell me about ati11:56
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erUSULDreamfluid, for ex. "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/" to mount the usual C: of winXP11:56
DreamfluiderSUL: it says: "Only root can do that"11:56
fletch33yeah what happened when you got to browse for sile11:56
fletch33file11:57
blankcan you tell ubotu to tell me about ati, I think he's mad at me11:57
dell500!tell blank ati11:57
erUSULDreamfluid, no using mount directy with all options11:57
blank:)11:57
dell500wierd11:57
fletch33did u chosse anyhting because mine doesnt even give me automatic as a choice11:57
erUSULDreamfluid, use sudo11:57
dell500says invalid target11:57
Blippebland , the name me doesn't work, you have to write your nick11:57
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hubuntuwell I just picked up the file from the other hard drive and then I was able to pick it up... then evo did the rest11:57
bacamRiddell: Ah, I think it didn't like the package name I gave it.11:57
hubuntuwith the wizard...11:57
kevogodYou have to use !tell blank about ati11:57
blanko lol11:57
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blank:D11:57
blankthanks11:57
dell500lo11:57
fletch33i think i need upgrades or something11:57
hubuntunono11:57
kevogodOr simply use /msg ubotu tell blank about ati11:57
dreumahdoes anyone know how to intall x link kai on breazy?11:57
hubuntulet me see what i did again11:57
hubuntuone sec11:57
RockyBurtdoes anyone here know anything about python setuptools on ubuntu? python2.3-setuptools includes easy_install but python2.4-setuptools doesn't appear to include easy_install11:57
fletch33k11:58
dreumahif there is a package or something11:58
DreamfluiderUSUL: now something happened.. It didn't prompt11:58
dell500how do you find out if 3d accel is work in console?11:58
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blankuh...can you tell him to tell me about restricted formats, it's not working again11:59
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erUSULDreamfluid, i'm afraid that for win repair knoppix is a better option than ubuntu livecd11:59
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hubuntuthe best optrion is definitely UBCD11:59
marlunis there a simple calculator you can use through the terminal?11:59
erUSULDreamfluid, now the C: files should be visible under /mnt/.11:59
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WildZeckhubuntu, or bart pe (winpe) cdrom :)11:59
hubuntufor win repair (or knoppix... depends on how damaged it is ;)12:00
Dreamfluidcrap12:00
DreamfluidI just want to copy a couple of files12:00

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