[12:00] <bob2> shinu: "man resolv.conf" says it cares about the first three
[12:00] <bob2> marlun: hah, cool
[12:00] <bob2> jeanluc: please stop pasting that
[12:00] <bob2> jeanluc: or anything at all, in here
[12:00] <shinu> LjL: thanks ut i think its alright :P i wont really need that
[12:00] <jeanluc> sorry
[12:00] <shinu> bob2: i see
[12:00] <_Dez> does Gaim run on ubuntu?
[12:00] <shogo> .irc-hispano.org
[12:01] <phasegen> Can anyone tell me where to find audacity for breezy?  Synaptic says it isn't out there...
[12:01] <topyli> agtnz: sudo update-alternatives www-browser and sudo update-alternatives x-www-browser
[12:01] <LjL> _dez: of course it does
[12:01] <icewt> _Dez: ubuntu ships with gaim
[12:01] <NotLarry> ok, the power is off to the radio on my wi-fi card, anyone know how to turn it on?
[12:01] <zeenix> hey guys
[12:01] <solidgroove> phasegen audacity.sf.net
[12:01] <agtnz> topyli: danke
[12:01] <shinu> bob2: i just wondered its strange that it doesnt have a nameserver command... thats all :D and also i couldnt get it from the repos
[12:01] <bob2> phasegen: eh?
[12:01] <bob2> nisqpaul: please turn that off
[12:01] <thechitowncubs> phasegen, its there, in universe
[12:01] <Ophiocus> phasegen,  make sure you have the correct repositories
[12:01] <phasegen> solidgroove: Thank You!
[12:01] <bob2> phasegen: it's in universe
[12:02] <bob2> phasegen: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto, wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:02] <mmiikkee12> i'm considering switching to ubuntu from debian, but first, a few questions. does it let you use new software or force you on 2.6.8 kernels like debian?
[12:02] <phasegen> I have universe and multiverse enabled.
[12:02] <agtnz> _Dez: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80423&highlight=initng for speeding up boot
[12:02] <solidgroove> mmiikkee12, its newest software
[12:02] <mmiikkee12> good
[12:02] <topyli> agtnz: sorry, it's update-altenatives config x-www-browser. i forgot the "config" part. might even be "configure"
[12:02] <LjL> solidgroove: it's "newest" software?
[12:02] <bob2> mmiikkee12: uh, Debian doesn't "force" you on 2.6.8 kernels
[12:03] <bob2> mmiikkee12: please don't spread such silly fud
[12:03] <mmiikkee12> sarge does...
[12:03] <zeenix> the netwok-admin doesn't seem to provide an option like 'activate on boot' for individual network interfaces
[12:03] <mmiikkee12> anyway
[12:03] <trappist> no it doesn't
[12:03] <mmiikkee12> can i install it from debian without burning a cd?
[12:03] <solidgroove> LjL, there is a gnome newer than 2.12.2?
[12:03] <nisqpaul> bob2: help me here turn what off?
[12:03] <bob2> mmiikkee12: not simply
[12:03] <LjL> solidgroove: i don't think gnome is the only software around is it?
[12:03] <biatche> a screen question... for those who are familiar.. when do you use -D -m .. and when do you use -d -m? I can't differentiate between the two...-D = doesnt fork a new process? wtf -_-;;
[12:03] <bob2> nisqpaul: that irritating /away scrip you're using
[12:03] <Knowerrors> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[12:03] <Knowerrors> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[12:03] <bob2> mmiikkee12: debian sid is in general more up to date than ubuntu's development branch
[12:04] <bob2> Knowerrors: point apt at archive.ubuntu.com instead
[12:04] <topyli> mmiikkee12: it's 2.6.12 on breezy. when the next one comes out in six months, we will have whatever is new at that time
[12:04] <Knowerrors> Anybody else getting this? "W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"
[12:04] <mmiikkee12> 2.6.12 is ok
[12:04] <nisqpaul> Bob2:  I am not away?
[12:04] <topyli> mmiikkee12: six months stable releases, no changes in that time
[12:04] <bob2> nisqpaul: I don't know or care, but your IRC client should not be announcing it to the channel
[12:04] <agtnz> _Dez: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76543&highlight=ntpdate, as well
[12:04] <DShepherd> how do I install install a gdm theme?
[12:04] <SEJeff> topyli: Except for security updates
[12:04] <mmiikkee12> can i upgrade to newer stuff without a bunch of hassle between releases?
[12:04] <topyli> SEJeff: yes, of course
[12:04] <trappist> biatche: the difference is described pretty clearly in the screen man page
[12:04] <agtnz> DShepherd: gdmsetup
[12:04] <Seveas> Knowerrors, don't use us.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:05] <nisqpaul> bob2:  How do I turn off the anouncement...   sorry looking for any advice you can give
[12:05] <agtnz> DShepherd: Install new theme and point to the archive
[12:05] <biatche> trappist: i've asked a few people... i don't understand it.. ok, so when do you use oine, when do u use the other
[12:05] <bob2> mmiikkee12: like Debian, yes
[12:05] <DShepherd> agtnz: thanks
[12:05] <bob2> nisqpaul: depends on your irc client
[12:05] <Knowerrors> Seveas: so just remove the "us" ?
[12:05] <topyli> mmiikkee12: there are backports, but you must really be hungry for the bleeding edge if you can't take six months :)
[12:05] <n0odl3> how do i play midi/mid?
[12:05] <nisqpaul> bob2 X-chat
[12:05] <Seveas> Knowerrors, yeah
[12:06] <mmiikkee12> debian says i alreadt have the latest kernel when i only have 2.6.8...
[12:06] <mmiikkee12> anyway
[12:06] <topyli> mmiikkee12: debian too lets you run any kernel you like...
[12:06] <bob2> mmiikkee12: because you're using Debian stable
[12:06] <Knowerrors> thx, sorry for the multiple pastes, didn't show up on my end right away
[12:06] <Madpilot> mmiikkee12: latest should be 2.6.12something
[12:06] <trappist> biatche: if you use -D you won't come back to the console.  I can't think of a time when I'd want that.  -d starts a detached screen and takes you back to the shell.
[12:06] <nisqpaul> bob2:  I am using X-chat  with ubuntu 5.10
[12:06] <bimberi> nisqpaul: settings -> preferences -> general -> Announce away messages (untick)
[12:07] <mmiikkee12> ok, so ubuntu updates more often, that question is answered.
[12:07] <mmiikkee12> can i install without a cd?
[12:07] <topyli> mmiikkee12: not very easily
[12:07] <biatche> trappist: interesting............ in the end, i know i should use -d -m ...... but ive yet to underestand the use of -D -m
[12:07] <mmiikkee12> stupid xchat
[12:07] <nisqpaul> Bob2:   Thanks got it
[12:07] <bob2> nisqpaul: great, thank a lot
[12:07] <mmiikkee12> keeps beeping my computer when someoe says my nick
[12:07] <bimberi> mmiikkee12: there are various ways - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[12:07] <bob2> mmiikkee12: same as Debian, you can debootstrap (advanced) or pxe install (intermediate)
[12:07] <nisqpaul> Bimberi:   Sorry thanks
[12:08] <trappist> biatche: -D doesn't fork a new process, which is why you're stuck with it until you attach to and terminate the screen session.  I don't know why you'd use it, but I suspect it has a purpose.
[12:08] <mmiikkee12> looking at that, hold on
[12:08] <bimberi> nisqpaul: np :)
[12:08] <Chopstix2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20522&page=3 can anyone help please?
[12:08] <biatche> trappist: mysterious world of screen... but thanks
[12:08] <trappist> <3 screen
[12:08] <LjL> mmiikkee12: ubuntu definitely doesn't update more often than debian testing/unstable, tho it does update oftener than debian stable
[12:09] <ompaul> mmiikkee12, that is your setting - check settings preferences chatting general
[12:09] <mmiikkee12> yes, i have sarge (stable
[12:09] <mmiikkee12> just hold on.
[12:10] <squirrelpimp> jo... i have a problem with the usbdisk automount feature... a disk always gets mounted as the currently logged in user... and others aren't allowed even to read it...
[12:10] <mmiikkee12> bimberi: found the perfect page for my problem but the page doesn't exist :P
[12:10] <squirrelpimp> where should i look for in order to fix it?
[12:10] <agtnz> topyli: I don't have update-alternatives... any idea what package to install?
[12:10] <topyli> LjL: running ubuntu is different from running any debian. stable is, well, stable. unstable updates every day. testing is completely insecure
[12:10] <DShepherd> agtnz: how about usplash. how do you install that?
[12:10] <bimberi> mmiikkee12: :/
[12:10] <DShepherd> do you know*
[12:10] <agtnz> DShepherd: Dunno man :P
[12:10] <squirrelpimp> any suggestions??
[12:11] <DShepherd> kool agtnz.
[12:11] <LjL> topyli: whatever, but saying that ubuntu updates packages more often than debian is simply wrong. at least, i depends on the debian
[12:11] <mmiikkee12> hold on...
[12:11] <mmiikkee12> looking
[12:11] <DShepherd> How do I install a usplash?
[12:11] <DShepherd> neva mind
[12:11] <topyli> agtnz: every debian-like system must have update-alternatives. perhaps /usr/sbin is not in your path? try specifying /usr/sbin/update-alternatives
[12:13] <agtnz> topyli: Yeah, that worked. ta
[12:15] <DShepherd> what;s happening?
[12:16] <LjL> what's the sanest way to only allow inbound net access from the local network (on certain specified ports)? i mean, *without* risking a faked-IP attack. i have multiple ethernet cards, eth0 is connected to the internet, eth1 and the rest are connected to the local network
[12:16] <topyli> LjL: yep. unstable is more vibrant. i switched to ubuntu from unstable just because of that. it's the peace of mind :)
[12:16] <agtnz> topyli: which file do i edit to add to my PATH ?
[12:17] <topyli> agtnz: .bashrc in your home directory
[12:17] <topyli> note, it's a dot file
[12:17] <agtnz> :)
[12:17] <badcom> como eu crio usuario root
[12:17] <LjL> topyli: i suppose we're different ;) myself, i very recently switched to ubuntu and like it, but i get seriously anxious every time i do an aptitude dist-upgrade (i.e. every ten minutes) and don't see anything :-)
[12:17] <LjL> !es
[12:17] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:17] <LjL> !pt
[12:17] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[12:17] <bob2> LjL: people outside your isp almost certainly cannot spoof their ip for anything aside from udp traffic
[12:18] <DShepherd> what package can I install to get a dock thing like Mac in Ubuntu?
[12:18] <LjL> bob2: i care *only* about people *inside* my ISP, since all the others can't access me to begin with, as my USP puts us all behind NAT
[12:18] <squirrelpimp> !de
[12:18] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[12:18] <LjL> bob2: and i do care about udp too anyway
[12:18] <topyli> agtnz: here's my .bashrc for reference. don't copy it straight over :) http://siltala.net/comp/dot-bashrc
[12:18] <bob2> LjL: uh, suck
[12:18] <LjL> bob2: yeah, i know
[12:19] <agtnz> topyli: appreciated :)
[12:19] <LjL> bob2: but they give me 10mbps
[12:19] <LjL> bob2: fiber optical, no adsl
[12:19] <bob2> LjL: well, just run iptables on your gateway and filter everything aside from inbound on particular ports
[12:19] <bob2> LjL: hah, nice
[12:19] <badcom> como eu crio usuario root
[12:19] <ubuntu> alguem ai do brasil?
[12:19] <bob2> pretty clearly not a spanish-speaking channel
[12:20] <LjL> portuguese, actually
[12:20] <ubuntu> badcom: tais ai?
[12:20] <Madpilot> !pt
[12:20] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[12:20] <bob2> ah
[12:20] <badcom> sim
[12:20] <bob2> oh, I'm blind
[12:20] <badcom> ubuntu sim
[12:20] <bob2> I should go drink coffee until I'm concious
[12:20] <squirrelpimp> anyone having an idea for my permissions-problem???
[12:21] <DShepherd> what package can I install to get a dock thing like Mac in Ubuntu?
[12:21] <_native_> l
[12:22] <squirrelpimp> DShepherd: look for gdesklets... theres one doin that!
[12:22] <trappist> squirrelpimp: you could set your umask to 023 or something
[12:22] <mmiikkee12> can someone create this for me :) ?
[12:22] <mmiikkee12> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallationFromLinuxHardDisk
[12:22] <Blissex> DShepherd: 'apt-cache search dock | sort -u | less' for hints
[12:22] <LjL> bob2: does this sound decent? iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport <blocked-port> -j DROP ; iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport <blocked-port> -s 192.168.0.1/24 -j ACCEPT
[12:22] <topyli> LjL: lucky you, drapper development tree is open now :)
[12:22] <topyli> dapper even
[12:22] <trappist> ok is it dapper or drapper?
[12:23] <DShepherd> Blissex: yeah I did that...saw a package called docker
[12:23] <anavim> dapper
[12:23] <squirrelpimp> transgress: where du i set that for that automatic mounting stuff??
[12:23] <LjL> bob2: sorry, i just forgot to change it to the interface instead of the address....that would be: iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport <blocked-port> -j DROP ; iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport <blocked-port> -i eth1 -j ACCEPT
[12:23] <mmiikkee12> nm, found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromAnotherDistro
[12:23] <LjL> bob2: assuming eth1 is my *local* network interface
[12:23] <bob2> LjL: I'd just set -P INPUT REJECT ; -A INPUT -s whatever -j ACCEPT
[12:23] <squirrelpimp> trappist: where du i set that for that automatic mounting stuff??
[12:24] <squirrelpimp> wrong addressee..
[12:24] <LjL> bob2: but isn't "-s whatever" vulnerable to IP spoofing? (still keeping in mind i'm worrying about attacks coming from inside my isp)
[12:24] <total_assault> hey can anyone help me install w32codecs on amd64 breezey?
[12:24] <trappist> squirrelpimp: `umask 023` will set that as the umask for that user.  if that works, put it in a .bash_profile or something
[12:24] <bob2> LjL: how do you plan to avoid other people spoofing ips?
[12:24] <blackvd> ok new prob, everytime I log inot fluxbox my screen res resets to the default which is 1280
[12:25] <blackvd> *into
[12:25] <trappist> total_assault: w32codecs isn't going to work on amd64
[12:25] <bob2> LjL: they can't (usefully) spoof tcp unless  they take down one of your isp's routers
[12:25] <blackvd> but I need 1024
[12:25] <LjL> bob2: i don't... but i plan to disallow anything coming from eth0 (which is the internet), and only allow stuff coming from eth1 (local network)
[12:25] <blackvd> tried sudo kcontrol then changing it
[12:25] <total_assault> trappist: no wonder why ive been trying to do it fro 3 hours with no avail
[12:25] <squirrelpimp> trappist: only for the automatic mounting or does if affect other thing?? theres no manpage...
[12:25] <anavim> is bugzilla really gone?  launchpad now is for reporting bugs?
[12:25] <blackvd> but it keeps reseting everytime I login
[12:25] <bob2> LjL: oh, right
[12:26] <trappist> total_assault: they're precompiled 32-bit windows (w32) binaries
[12:26] <jvai> oye forums..
[12:26] <trappist> squirrelpimp: it sets your umask for everything
[12:27] <total_assault> trappist: thats it then im installing 32 bit, too many probelms on 64 bit still no flash, no codecs etc..
[12:27] <Phuzion> Can someone help me out with getting user accounts to work on pure-ftpd?
[12:27] <LjL> bob2: i think specifying network interfaces instead of IPs would be safer, even if very slightly safer, no?
[12:27] <LjL> bob2: people can't spoof my network cards, no matter how hard they try ;) i suppose
[12:27] <squirrelpimp> trappist: so that's something i definitely don't want... because then everybody will not only be able to read the mounted volume but also all my other files...
[12:27] <bob2> LjL: right
[12:28] <louis_> hi all
[12:28] <solidgroove> LjL ubuntu has new software when it is released, what is old?
[12:29] <LjL> bob2: if i were using another ISP, i'd just ask some of you here to nmap me, see what's wrong, and fix case-by-case... but since i'm simply not reachable from anyone except my ISP's users (and i don't know any), i think i'd feel better with a more drastic approach, you see
[12:29] <ngd> Hi everyone, anyone else had trouble with initrd failing to install during installation
[12:29] <ngd> ?
[12:29] <LjL> solidgroove: ubuntu has new software every six months, normally, unless you consider backports (which don't even currently exist) or some other weird stuff
[12:29] <agtnz> LjL: Backports started existing y'day.
[12:30] <LjL> agtnz: did it? that's cool... ought to be in the topic!
[12:30] <strike3> _native_: just to let you know - i got wep working - went back to no security first - needed reboot to get that working the wep worked no probs
[12:30] <Toran> when are you guys planning on releaseing the latest version of xchat to the repositories?
[12:30] <marlun> How come I can't find bittorrent client thats in ubuntu in the Package Manager?
[12:31] <Phuzion> marlun:  BitTornado isn't there?
[12:31] <_native_> strike3/ great, feels good knowing you made some progress huh. :-] 
[12:31] <ompaul> marlun, why not click on applications internet bittorrent ?
[12:31] <bob2> LjL: if yor rules are going to be more than a couple of lines long, you might want to look at shorewall
[12:32] <bob2> marlun: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto, they're in universe
[12:32] <LjL> bob2: i'll have a look, thanks
[12:32] <_native_> strike3/ next stop full wpa support.
[12:32] <Phuzion> Or sudo "apt-get install bittornado" if you don't have it installed.
[12:33] <jvai> i'm on hoary still, but the last updates i recieved were for kde things, & bfore then, a few for fetchmail
[12:33] <squirrelpimp> trappist: it does not work btw...
[12:33] <Phuzion> marlun: Are you KDE or Gnome?
[12:33] <jvai> ooh yea.. this morning i got upgrades for rpms??
[12:33] <marlun> Phuzion, gnome-bittorrent is the client.
[12:34] <bob2> jvai: are you using breezy?
[12:34] <Phuzion> Yeah, I know that, I was going to suggest that for you.
[12:34] <jvai> i'm on gnome
[12:34] <marlun> ompaul, because then it only tells me to select a torrent file, I can't set any properties or anything.
[12:34] <bob2> jvai: that's not a Debian release
[12:34] <strike3> _native_: think i'll enjoy it working with wep for a short time before upsetting it all again - incase i cant go back
[12:34] <marlun> Phuzion, gnome
[12:34] <jvai> no, i'm using hoary @bob
[12:35] <Phuzion> marlun:  Alright, then you should have the program installed, but if not, in terminal, type "sudo apt-get install gnome-btdownload"
[12:35] <ompaul> jvai, start the line with a persons nick, then others will filter it out leave out the @ then you can do less typing this is the way of irc :)
[12:35] <cafuego_> omg, that's sexy :-)
[12:35] <_native_> bob2; ive found that the iptables match extension -m owner --cmd-owner is not present is this because the ubuntu2.6.12-9 dose not include that extension yet? cause it would be a nice feature to have.
[12:35] <marlun> Phuzion, I've got it installed :) but I was wondering why I couldn't see it in the Package Manager.
[12:35] <Phuzion> Oh, because it's probably the latest version.
[12:35] <marlun> Phuzion, and I also need a way to change the port that gnome-bittorrent uses (and set the maxupload/download)
[12:36] <ompaul> cafuego_, what is?
[12:36] <bob2> _native_: you could file a wishlist bug on the kernel asking for it to be included
[12:36] <Phuzion> marlun, I don't have experience with the client.
[12:36] <marlun> Phuzion, Okey, I found an explanation on the ubuntu forum but I'm totally new to this so I don't really get it :/
[12:36] <_native_> yeah it seems as though it could be very useful. i'll do that. ;-] 
[12:37] <jvai> bob, should i delete the rpm updates, i'll neva use them, there was also a note about using ALIEN for unknown apps
[12:37] <Phuzion> Alright, so can someone help me with getting PAM Authentication to work in Pure-FTPD?
[12:37] <coz> hello all
[12:37] <coz>  has anyone tried the O&O defrag for linux?
[12:38] <bob2> O&O?
[12:38] <cafuego_> coz: On ext2/ext3 you traditionally don't bother with defragging
[12:38] <coz> O&O is the company
[12:38] <cafuego_> bob2: payware company
[12:38] <bob2> Phuzion: unless you have a onvincing reason otherwise, I'd just use proftpd
[12:38] <bob2> or no ftp at all
[12:38] <coz> I rea lize that but wanted to know id\f someon has tested this
[12:39] <cafuego_> coz; I doubt it, spending money on a tool noone has a need for seems silly ;-)
[12:39] <adar> has every Ubuntu release mapped network interfaces to hotplug? On my hoary box I don't see "auto eth0" which means that /etc/init.d/networking restart always leaves me sans networking
[12:39] <kornito> are all liveCD's supposed to allow an installation on disk ? or only some linux distros ?
[12:39] <coz> well I think it is beta and free right now
[12:39] <jvai> is it safe to emty the TMP folder on the daily?? i just did today.. but i couldnt undo the ICE,&ORBIT & XO ones.. i think that
[12:39] <bob2> adar: it seems to have varied between releases
[12:39] <bob2> jvai: /tmp? no.
[12:39] <LjL> kornito: i don't think every livecd there is around allows hd installation
[12:39] <_native_> kornito; some livecds have that feature some dont.
[12:39] <cafuego_> coz: ext2defrag is not beta, also free and still not needed.
[12:39] <bob2> coz: I wouldn't trust binary, closed-source stuff to touch my filesystem
[12:39] <coz> Ok can all fo the .deb files be removed safely from ubuntu?
[12:40] <jvai> s my issue w/ using starbucks wifi, & neva bein assign'd an ip
[12:40] <kornito> ok thanx
[12:40] <bob2> especially since I doubt it was written by a ext2/3 hacker
[12:40] <cafuego_> coz: Yes. 'sudo apt-get clean' will do it for you.
[12:40] <adar> bob2: its problematic because I'm writing some scripts to automatically call networking stop on suspend and networking restart on resume, and there's no networking when I'm done
[12:40] <coz> thanks
[12:40] <adar> bob2: is there any sort of workaround? any releases that aren't doing it?
[12:40] <jgw> hrm ubuntuforums.org rocks
[12:40] <coz> I'll try that
[12:41] <kornito> i don't wanna sound like a troll, but is ubuntu overthrowing debian ?
[12:41] <coz> wowo that was fast I think I better check if they were all removed
[12:41] <bob2> adar: you can remove the hotplug lines yourself
[12:41] <Welly> hmm.. i'm trying to sudo apt-get install openssh-server and it keeps asking me to insert the ubuntu cd
[12:41] <bob2> kornito: no
[12:41] <Phuzion> bob2, does proftpd have PAM Authentication on automatically?
[12:41] <fruud> im trying to "./configure" this KDE "window decoration" and i get this error, what can i do ?
[12:41] <Welly> which i have done but it doesn't recognise it
[12:41] <bob2> Phuzion: yes
[12:41] <LjL> kornito: depends what you mean, ubuntu couldn't even *exist* without debian
[12:41] <fruud> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[12:41] <fruud> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[12:41] <fruud> So, check this please and use another prefi
[12:41] <bob2> Phuzion: bear in mind that using non-anonymous ftp is askign for trouble (ie cleartext passwords)
[12:41] <LjL> fruud: install kdelibs4-dev
[12:41] <bob2> fruud: and you're compiling..?
[12:41] <kornito> do u think there will be more ubuntu than debian in the future ?
[12:41] <fruud> oke thx!!!
[12:41] <_native_> kornito; no way, ubuntu is just more progressive / cutting edge
[12:42] <bob2> Welly: edit /etc/apt/sources.list to remoe the cd line if you don't want that
[12:42] <coz> apt-get clean didn't remove a single .deb file
[12:42] <LjL> fruud: using aptitude, possibly, as otherwise you'll have lots of dependencies to remove later
[12:42] <bob2> _native_: debian has newer packages than ubuntu in nearly every case
[12:42] <Phuzion> bob2, it's going to be on a local intranet, and not accessable from outside, so I'm set on security.
[12:42] <LjL> fruud: (if you want to remove them, that is)
[12:42] <fruud> kk
[12:42] <Welly> cool cheers bob2
[12:42] <_native_> bob2; really
[12:42] <fruud> :D
[12:42] <kornito> _native_: a little less stable ? :)
[12:42] <bob2> _native_: gnome is about the only exception
[12:42] <_native_> bob2; its based on debian testing though right?
[12:42] <bob2> _native_: more or less everything else in ubuntu comes from debian
[12:43] <bob2> _native_: no, sid
[12:43] <_native_> ahh
[12:43] <bob2> _native_: e.g. debian had a more recent version of X than ubuntu for a few weeks, and now they are the same
[12:43] <LjL> bob2: well, i'm not sure, but i don't think the kde 3.5 beta is in debian... though to be honest it's not in ubuntu either, it's in a separate but official rep
[12:43] <_native_> bob2; i must have read inaccurate docs,
[12:43] <markw> argh.
[12:43] <markw> ok...    make wants gcc 3.4
[12:43] <coz> I take that back it did remove the .deb files and left the ,debian .gz files nevermind
[12:44] <LjL> markw: aptitude install gcc-3.4
[12:44] <bob2> markw: kernel stuff?
[12:44] <GNULinuxGeek> Can anyone explain why Synaptic is not selecting any packages for upgrade?
[12:44] <LjL> markw: end then "export CC=gcc-3.4"
[12:44] <bob2> GNULinuxGeek: are you using breezy?
[12:44] <bob2> LjL: ah, ok
[12:44] <GNULinuxGeek> Yes
[12:44] <Stormx2> GNULinuxGeek: Because non need to be upgraded?
[12:44] <ompaul> GNULinuxGeek, your up to date?
[12:44] <markw> bob2: yeah, gonna build a em64T smp kernel.
[12:44] <Stormx2> _native_: Good on you :)
[12:44] <coz> I am astickler for clean drives , are there any applications that help clean off the drives?
[12:44] <kornito> bob2: so why would someone stick to debian instead of ubuntu ?
[12:44] <adar> bob2: last question, do you happen to know which releases map to hotplug and which don't? Or any way I could find out on my own?
[12:45] <GNULinuxGeek> Should not be as I have not upgraded in two weeks
[12:45] <markw> kornito: so you can ask questions in #debian.
[12:45] <LjL> kornito: unstable is more cutting edge, and stable is unbeatable for servers
[12:45] <ompaul> GNULinuxGeek, once you upgraded you are in stable - so less things change, only things with security issues
[12:45] <bob2> kornito: I use Debian because I like the community (especially the development one), and because I think an independant free OS is very very important
[12:45] <bob2> kornito: I use ubuntu because it Just Works on my laptop
[12:45] <Phuzion> bob2:  Can you help me out here, I just installed proftpd, and its not letting me log in for some reason.
[12:46] <bob2> different audiences in the same person!
[12:46] <bob2> Phuzion: read auth.log
[12:46] <kornito> bob ok :-)
[12:46] <LjL> bob2: i use debian stable on my server, i use ubuntu on my desktop....
[12:46] <martin__> hey, does anyone know where gnome stores all the icons in the menu bar?
[12:46] <Phuzion> bob2:  where would it be?
[12:46] <_native_> Phuzion; log files are great for tracking down exactly whats wrong.
[12:46] <jvai> there r like 10 items in my TMP folder.. always
[12:46] <bob2> adar: I don't, sorry.  the only thing I could suggest is looking at base-config in each releae (ie download and dpkg-deb -x foo.deb them)
[12:46] <markw> LjL: this appears to be a little bit of dependancy issue.
[12:46] <bob2> Phuzion: /var/log
[12:46] <Phuzion> thanks
[12:46] <LjL> bob2: actually, the stuff i was asking about iptables was about debian
[12:46] <bob2> jvai: which is probably fine
[12:46] <LjL> markw: what do you mean?
[12:47] <jvai> ok
[12:47] <bob2> GNULinuxGeek: breezy is stable and will not get new software, only security fixes
[12:47] <_native_> LjL; are you new to iptables configuration?
[12:47] <ngd> anyone else had initrd-tools fail on install?
[12:47] <Stormx2> martin__: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/
[12:47] <kornito> linux is not suitable for old people
[12:47] <Stormx2> lmao!
[12:47] <GNULinuxGeek> I will give it a week or so and see if there are any issues.  I loaded this from scratch and that might change things.
[12:47] <LjL> _native_: not "new", since i first used iptables a long time ago... but never really got into it or learned how to do stuff
[12:47] <_native_> kornito; whatever my mom loves it.
[12:47] <kornito> _native_: she must be a techie
[12:48] <_native_> LjL; its a good implementation.
[12:48] <tnag> Hi all
[12:48] <markw> LjL: make depends on gcc-3.4 yet when you install make, it doesn't install gcc-3.4, however, it should be depending on gcc-4
[12:48] <coz> /usr/share/icons
[12:48] <_native_> kornito; no way ubuntu is just user friendly.
[12:48] <LjL> GNULinuxGeek: you *will* (or should) be able to install new packages in your breezy without waiting six months, anyway... the backports rep will have new packages when they're ready
[12:48] <ompaul> kornito, I don't know a 78/9 year old guy had a mail on one the mailing lists earlier today, and he is using Ubuntu that is linux so - Wrong!
[12:48] <martin__> Stormx2: I mean the actual link for the ICON, I have a fresh install and I want to have the menu exactly as I have it now
[12:48] <bob2> markw: "make" doesn't Depend on any gcc
[12:48] <LjL> markw: hmm breezy? on my breezy, make doesn't depend on gcc3
[12:48] <_native_> kornito; all she needs is the internet.
[12:48] <jvai> i have shorewall, & squid install'd.. but there's not a way to configure them.. i just leav them b.. -novice
[12:48] <markw> LjL: make is asking for breezy..
[12:49] <markw> hmm.  let me check the makefile
[12:49] <grodius> how do i compile .mar files
[12:49] <markw> sec
[12:49] <bob2> jvai: eh? squid has /etc/squid/squid.conf
[12:49] <markw> nm.
[12:49] <bob2> jvai: shorewall has an example config in /usr/share/doc/shorewall/
[12:49] <kornito> i can't imagine a grandmother doing chmod and stuff
[12:49] <bob2> jvai: neither are end-user tools
[12:49] <markw> it's the kernel tree makefile that wants gcc-3.4
[12:49] <bob2> kornito: when do you need to use chmod while writing poems about doilies and tea cups?
[12:49] <LjL> kornito: why should she have to
[12:49] <ompaul> kornito, I know a oap social club in Dublin that uses a linux network
[12:49] <Stormx2> markw: apt-get install gcc-3.4
[12:49] <jvai> ooh in the ETC/ folder..
[12:49] <grodius> can someone tell me how to compile a .mar file??
[12:50] <jvai> now. do i use GEDIT to edit?
[12:50] <LjL> markw: but is that (the kernel source) an ubuntu package?
[12:50] <ompaul> kornito, and they have a bofh running the network
[12:50] <marlun> if for example I want to know which version of python-wxgtk that is installed on my system, how can I check?
[12:50] <markw> yes
[12:50] <Phuzion> How do I change a user's access level to allow them to access to the root of the system?
[12:50] <bob2> markw: dpkg -l packagename
[12:50] <Phuzion> Specifically, let them access /var/www
[12:50] <Stormx2> RewriteEngine On
[12:50] <Stormx2> RewriteRule ^sig.png sig.php
[12:50] <Stormx2>  <-- Not working :(
[12:50] <LjL> markw: weird then, but perhaps there's some reason why the linux kernel must be compiled with gcc3 yet?
[12:50] <kornito> but debian is too hard to install if the grandma's computer crashes
[12:50] <allorder> I just installed an eggdrop with apt-get the problem is if I don't do ./eggdrop -m /home/..../eggdrop.conf it doesnt work. someone can help pls ?
[12:50] <markw> ii  linux-tree-2.6.12                               2.6.12-9.23        Linux kernel tree for building prepackaged U
[12:50] <jvai> oooh. so. once shorewall, & squid is install.. i just "leav them be"?
[12:50] <GNULinuxGeek> Night All :>)
[12:51] <ompaul> kornito, you are now trolling
[12:51] <martin__> any ideas where to look?  Im pretty sure its and XML file
[12:51] <martin__> just cant find it  :(
[12:51] <bob2> Phuzion: sudo addgroup webmonkeys ; sudo chgrp webmonkeys /var/www ; sudo chmod g+rwxS /var/www ; sudo adduser theirusername webmonkeys
[12:51] <markw> LjL: working on a new 64 bit box to replace my aging desktop.
[12:51] <kakalto> is anyone else having troubles with dling torrents?
[12:51] <kakalto> I'm at 98.71%, and can't go any further
[12:51] <Phuzion> bob2: thanks
[12:51] <kakalto> it just stalled
[12:51] <tnag> OK - I've only put this unbuntu on my latop and I'm still tryign to find my way around
[12:51] <kakalto> and it's done that for the last day and a half
[12:51] <kornito> bob2: are you a CS grad student ?
[12:52] <LjL> markw: oh ic... then i'll take myself out, haven't ever used a 64bits machine, i suppose they have different issues when compiling (kernel) stuff is involved
[12:52] <bob2> Phuzion: (then add whoever else to the webmonkeys group)
[12:52] <bob2> kornito: no
[12:52] <jvai> <-- uninstallin squid & shorewall, to rely on iptables alone
[12:52] <tnag> can someone teel me (simply) if/how to indstall wireless cards
[12:52] <allorder> I just installed an eggdrop with apt-get the problem is if I don't do ./eggdrop -m /home/.../eggdrop.conf it doesnt work. someone can help pls ?
[12:53] <Phuzion> bob2:  Alright, I got the group, but now I need them to be able to access said directory through FTP.
[12:53] <jvai> tnag.. i gave up.. i'm using a orinoco gold 11b card now.. & got 2 silvers on the way from ebay
[12:53] <kornito> i struggle in the CS department. i'm a hustler
[12:53] <martin__> I need to backup the menu, exactly how it is now, and the icons I have on the menu panel, I was able to do it a few months ago, just cant find it in breezy now
[12:54] <ompaul> kornito, sit back and enjoy the lesson
[12:55] <blank> hey, how may I run a program so it's a process, in other words, say I'm running a server of some sort, how can I have it running without having the terminal window open
[12:55] <jvai> with ubuntu.. i guess the best place to b .. is to stay 1 bhind the freshest.. like.. when dapper comes out.. i'll move to breezy from hoary.. is that safe?
[12:55] <grodius> bv
[12:55] <bob2> blank: daemons will background themselves
[12:55] <truz24> blank, you can put an & on the end of the execution command as well...
[12:55] <Phuzion> bob2:  How do I make a user able to access the root of the system through FTP.
[12:55] <bob2> jvai: that will work, but it's kinda silly
[12:56] <bob2> Phuzion: you don'\t, that is a terrible idea
[12:56] <bob2> Phuzion: just setup the ftpd so they can access /var/www/
[12:56] <markw> does ubuntu support kernel-package?
[12:56] <jvai> why?? hoary is working
[12:56] <markw> heh, why yes it does..
[12:56] <Phuzion> bob2:  It's my own system on a local intranet, I'm not worried about security.
[12:56] <Phuzion> No external users.
[12:56] <Welly> is there a way to configure network settings (ip/dns etc.) from the terminal?
[12:56] <bob2> markw: yes
[12:56] <blank> trux24: Thanks, and how may I stop this process when I want?
[12:56] <bob2> Welly: sure, /etc/network/interfaces (man 5 interfaces)
[12:56] <bob2> Phuzion: ok
[12:56] <amonkey> is there anyway i can boost my mic anymore? i used amixer to turn capture to 100% but it's still rather soft.
[12:57] <Phuzion> amonkey:  you may have to look into hardware if you're at 100% boost level.
[12:57] <Secreth`X> yay, FINALLY found one that plays all my Mp3s :)
[12:58] <Secreth`X> now for my movies and Im good hehe
[12:59] <amonkey> Phuzion, amixer is for alsa(right?), what if the app i'm using uses oss, will those settings apply? is there a different mixer?
[12:59] <Phuzion> amonkey, I'm not familiar with what software you're using, just the fact that you may need to consider getting some type of hardware amplifier in order to get your voice louder through the PC.
[01:01] <amonkey> Phuzion, ah. thanks for the suggestion. maybe i can find a tape player with an in or something
[01:01] <Sanne> amonkey: usually you have an oss compatibility layer if you're using alsa (which I believe the breezy kernel implements), so the settings of alsamixer would apply also to oss apps.
[01:02] <Phuzion> How do I change a user's home folder?
[01:02] <martin__> anyone know where de menu and panel shortcuts are stored?   I need to backup it up to a diff pc
[01:02] <bob2> Phuzion: edit /etc/passwd (carefully)
[01:02] <markw> argh.   new stuff all the time.  Pentium 820-D (dual core), so do I do SMP, or SMT?
[01:03] <markw> I'm under the impression I do SMP.
[01:03] <bob2> smp
[01:03] <mjr> smp, yeah
[01:03] <Aven> hi
[01:03] <Aven> everytime I add a user...
[01:03] <Aven> the password automaticlly changes itself..
[01:04] <amonkey> Sanne, is there a mixer for oss so i can check?
[01:04] <Welly> what value needs setting for "broadcast"?
[01:05] <Sanne> amonkey: hmmm... I'm having aumix in my menu, I believe this is an oss mixer. Not sure though.
[01:05] <amonkey> Sanne, thanks
[01:06] <Sanne> amonkey: but I think, if it works, it does it also through the alsa compatibility layer. What I definitely know is, you can#t have both alsa and oss loaded at the same time.
[01:06] <martin__> no one else is picky on there desktop?
[01:06] <NoobieDoobieDo> ?
[01:06] <gleesond> I'm having trouble copying files off of back up dvd's that I created in windows. I can copy about half of the files then it starts saying that there is an input/output error.
[01:07] <Shadowpillar> why doesn't xine upgrade?
[01:07] <Shadowpillar> I just got a breezy CD and I'm doing a smart upgrade
[01:07] <Hobbsee> Shadow777: try sudo apt-get install xine
[01:08] <Shadowpillar> but totem and xine are being removed and xine cant be installed
[01:08] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[01:08] <Secreth`X> err
[01:08] <Secreth`X> gotta go
[01:08] <Secreth`X> see ya..
[01:08] <Shadowpillar> and I upgraded all http reps as well
[01:09] <Aven> man :(((
[01:09] <Aven> everytime I add a user, the password automaticlly changes itself :(
[01:09] <funky> hi
[01:09] <funky> whats the default user/passwd for cups in ubuntu ?
[01:09] <funky> root/passwd doesnt work
[01:10] <fruud> i cant compile "window decorations" i get huge errors :)
[01:10] <meatwad65> hey everyone i fixed my touchpad
[01:11] <meatwad65> but i get an error when i start gnome that says failed to initialize hal...what does that mean exactly?
[01:11] <LjL> fruud: care to be a little more specific?
[01:11] <fruud> make[2] : *** [configdialog.lo]  Error 1
[01:11] <fruud> make[2] : Leaving directory `/root/Desktop/knifty-0.3.4/client/config'
[01:11] <fruud> make[1] : *** [install-recursive]  Error 1
[01:11] <fruud> make[1] : Leaving directory `/root/Desktop/knifty-0.3.4/client'
[01:11] <fruud> make: *** [install-recursive]  Error 1
[01:11] <fruud> for exmpl.
[01:11] <Hobbsee> fruud: paste the errors in the pastebin!
[01:11] <fruud> *_*
[01:11] <Hobbsee> !paste
[01:11] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:11] <LjL> that doesn't mean anything, anyway, the real errors are well before that
[01:12] <Hobbsee> fruud: /topic
[01:12] <fruud> ok ill post
[01:12] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:13] <fruud> done
[01:13] <fruud> posted now
[01:13] <LjL> fruud: URL?
[01:13] <fruud> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4324
[01:13] <Shadowpillar> does gstreamer support dvd playback yet?
[01:13] <meatwad65> is there a ubuntu guide for 5.10 yet?
[01:13] <LjL> fruud: also, can you give me the URL you downloaded that knifty from, so i can try compiling it?
[01:13] <Shadowpillar> *GOOD* dvd playback?
[01:13] <fruud> kk
[01:13] <fruud> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=288
[01:13] <Hobbsee> !tell meatwad65 about faq
[01:13] <fruud> there
[01:14] <LjL> fruud: from the errors you gave, it looks like that program is broken with ubuntu, but let me give it a try
[01:14] <fruud> aight aight, go ahead
[01:15] <LjL> fruud: that URL is about "silver deco", which isn't a compilable package...
[01:15] <LjL> er, i mean, it isn't source code
[01:15] <kornito> too many linux distros. this is all whack
[01:16] <Homer> never fear
[01:16] <Homer> homer is here
[01:16] <Homer> !!!
[01:16] <ubotu> ! is, like, what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[01:16] <fruud> :O
[01:16] <ojt> hi guys
[01:16] <jgw> ! `cat /etc/passwd`
[01:16] <ubotu> jgw: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:16] <Hobbsee> hi ojt
[01:16] <LjL> fruud: what's URL to the archive you're actually trying to *compile*? i suppose it's knifty, but
[01:16] <ojt> got a poblem here
[01:16] <Shadowpillar> this shit is pissing me off
[01:17] <Seveas> Shadowpillar, please watch your language...
[01:17] <Homer> I agree, we should all work on one distro
[01:17] <Homer> lets call it United Linux !
[01:17] <fruud> http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=7290&id=1
[01:17] <LjL> what did he say?
[01:17] <badcom> Quando tento gravar algo no disquete, aparece que nao tenho permissao. O que fao
[01:17] <Seveas> !es
[01:17] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:17] <LjL> !pt
[01:17] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[01:17] <Seveas> ah right
[01:18] <Seveas> so similar to the outsider
[01:18] <fruud> LjL, will this work for me ? Really want that one ( http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12330 )
[01:18] <german> Hello
[01:18] <Seveas> hi german
[01:18] <LjL> ;) i sometimes take them both for italian, and i *am* italian, go figure
[01:18] <german> Hi Seveas, need some help...
[01:19] <Seveas> german, let's hope we can help... what's the problem?
[01:19] <blank> Seveas & LjL = Teh Pimpz
[01:19] <blank> !ubotu!
[01:19] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[01:19] <blank> :D
[01:19] <blank> *crying* I cant pway wit ubotu
[01:19] <Seveas> blank, don't play with the bot
[01:19] <HrdwrBoB> !play
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[01:20] <german> when I start linux appear in the shell...
[01:20] <blank> danke
[01:20] <german> Umcomppressing Linux...
[01:20] <german> then it appears
[01:20] <macintoshr> heh 5 minutes ago i had 10 5.10 cds
[01:20] <macintoshr> now i have 3
[01:20] <blank> why
[01:20] <ojt> what does these means?
[01:20] <meatwad65> wow that help documentation really helps
[01:20] <Seveas> macintoshr, 2 weeks ago I had 700, now I have 100
[01:20] <macintoshr> one x86, one amd64 and one PPC...
[01:20] <ojt> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org2-core_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4_i386.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[01:20] <meatwad65> i didn't know it was embedded that easily
[01:21] <german> Pnp: PnPACPI:Method_Name__CRS Failure for PNP0c02
[01:21] <Seveas> ojt, sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2
[01:21] <german> and
[01:21] <LjL> fruud: just hold on some minutes, i've got to install the kde devs package to compile that stuff
[01:21] <ojt> seveas,ok
[01:21] <fruud> aight :)
[01:21] <fruud> np np
[01:21] <fruud> ty for helping LjL
[01:21] <fruud> (Y)
[01:21] <german> Pnp: PnPACPI: Method_name__CRS Failure for PNP0c01
[01:21] <ghostfreeman_> How do I enable the VNC service from a secure shell?
[01:22] <Seveas> german, hmm, sounds like a buggy bios
[01:22] <Seveas> does it end there or does it still continue to start up?
[01:22] <german> it ends there
[01:22] <german> then it starts with [OK] 
[01:23] <ojt> seveas,here's the result
[01:23] <german> like... doing stuff..........................[OK] 
[01:23] <ojt> seveas,openoffice.org2: Depends: openoffice.org2-core (> 1.9.129) but it is not going to be installed
[01:23] <Seveas> ojt, apt-get install openoffice.org2-core
[01:23] <Seveas> output on the pastebin
[01:23] <ojt> seveas,ok
[01:23] <Seveas> german, and no more than that?
[01:24] <seth_k|lappy> Anyone know how to get phpEclipse working with Breezy's 3.1.1ubuntu1 Eclipse packages? The wiki instructions don't work
[01:24] <german> Seveas, no, just those 2 lines, then everyting is normal
[01:24] <ArnoudDeVries> Anyone who got mod_mono installed on 5.10 with apache2?
[01:24] <german> but im worried about thjose 2 lines
[01:25] <ojt> seveas,can i ask what's the cause of these erors?
[01:25] <Seveas> german, try bootng with acpi=off as kernel parameter
[01:25] <Seveas> ojt, yes you can, but I don't know
[01:25] <Seveas> that's why I requested the output of that command ;)
[01:25] <LjL> fruud: you're using the wrong version of KNifty, you need this one: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=8841
[01:25] <meatwad65> does anyone know why pan development died? i thought it was the best newsreader
[01:26] <german> Seveas, it like you're talking chinesse to me :P
[01:26] <Seveas> meatwad65, it's slowly creeping out of a standstill
[01:26] <fruud> will it work for me with the other one i said to ya i really wanted to ? if u find a working verison :)
[01:26] <LjL> german: while GRUB is visible before booting, follow the instruction to "edit the command line", and add "acpi=off" to that command line
[01:27] <sockpuppe1> what is the command to fond out whats running on a certain port?
[01:27] <Seveas> german, paste the file /boot/grub/menu.lst on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:27] <fruud> LjL, this one  ( http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12330 )
[01:27] <Seveas> sockpuppe1, sudo netstat -tlnp
[01:27] <ojt> sevas,ok thnx anyways
[01:27] <Welly> right, i changed /etc/networking/interfaces I *think* correctly.. restarted networking and the new IP address looked to be correct as I could ping it, however I couldn't ping www.yahoo.co.uk
[01:27] <Welly> i've looked at /etc/resolv.conf and my dns servers are set up correctly
[01:27] <Welly> doing ifconfig showed nothing
[01:27] <blank> anyone know where I can get the limewire through apt get or the limewire tarball?
[01:28] <LjL> fruud: that one doesn't seem to have anything to do with KNifty. let me try to compile it as well
[01:28] <Seveas> !limewire
[01:28] <ubotu> from memory, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[01:28] <yaoming> 
[01:28] <fruud> okey, sry for beein pain in the ass :p
[01:28] <kbrooks> is limewire prop?
[01:28] <jvai> ljl.. i do this everytime during boot.. is there anyway i can make that stay, bcause i wanna add my gyrl as a user, she know sqwat about editing the boot menu
[01:28] <kbrooks> proprietary
[01:28] <german> thanks Seveas, ill try it
[01:29] <sockpuppe1> its opensource
[01:29] <Tokenizer> i have a second hardrive with nothing in it, made in fat32 blank.. i can't mount it using any of the following commands/utilities: fdisk , ubuntu disk manager, and mount
[01:29] <LjL> jvai: yeah, look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:29] <Tokenizer> any ideas?
[01:29] <jvai> but when i go there i cant edit.. it's read only
[01:29] <sockpuppe1> has anyone tried frostwire
[01:29] <fruud> LjL, Still getting humooongos errors of that knifty u gave me :O
[01:29] <sockpuppe1> ?
[01:29] <n0odl3> is it possible to sudo apt-get xfce?
[01:29] <Seveas> n0odl3, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:29] <kbrooks> n0odl3: add "install"
[01:30] <n0odl3> Seveas" so its xubuntu-desktop
[01:30] <Seveas> n0odl3, yeah
[01:30] <xx94> nnoooo!
[01:30] <xx94> my apt-get is still messed upp
[01:30] <shwag> my mplayer plugin in firefox only plays streaming videos choppy. its a software issue, but i dont know how to fix it.
[01:30] <ramblingturtle> when trying to update my system i get an error saying that packages can not be authenticated and receive the same message when trying to install programs like gnomebaker. any ideas on what this means or how to fix it would be appericated
[01:30] <meatwad65> so there has been pan development lately?
[01:30] <Seveas> xx94, paste the errors you get on the pastebin
[01:31] <xx94> do i need more config files
[01:31] <Seveas> meatwad65, not much
[01:31] <LathropWells> Tokenizer - one of the nce people here created a very useful scrip called winmac_fstab to find and mount all partitions easily.
[01:31] <meatwad65> i heard there was progress back in like may but haven't heard anything since
[01:31] <LathropWells> !ntfs
[01:31] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:31] <meatwad65> thats a shame
[01:31] <Tokenizer> lathropwell.. actually it was an NTFS drive before that i mounted using winmac_fstab
[01:31] <ramblingturtle> i am trying to install the programs via synaptic by the way
[01:32] <meatwad65> does anyone here use newsreaders at all?
[01:32] <LjL> fruud: install also kdebase-dev, and it should work
[01:32] <Tokenizer> now i formated it, but a line remains in /etc/fstab that says /dev/hdb1 is an ntfs drive..... i commented it, how can i remove the winmac_fstab script that i ran (i.e. undo it) and start over
[01:32] <LjL> meatwad65: yeah, knode :)
[01:32] <fruud> oke oke .)
[01:32] <LathropWells> Tokenizer - what command are you using to mount it (syntax) and what errors are you seeing?
[01:32] <Seveas> meatwad65, pan ;)
[01:33] <JanC> Tokenizer: remove the old entry for the NTFS partition from fstab & re-run the script?
[01:33] <foobar> is there a hotkey combo to spawn a terminal?
[01:33] <german> Seveas... it's posted
[01:33] <meatwad65> i heard this bnr is cross-platform
[01:33] <meatwad65> i've used it in windows before
[01:33] <LjL> foobar: F4 in KDE, dunno in gnome
[01:33] <meatwad65> i used klibido before which seems to be the closest thing to pan
[01:33] <xx94> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4326
[01:34] <Tokenizer> actually i did that it didn't work... what i did is that i removed the etc/fstab entry just now and went through re formating using the gnome tool at System>Admin>disks ..... now it works
[01:34] <Seveas> german, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/f4327
[01:34] <ryanpg> hi all... the one thing preventing me from going to ubunut is the absence of xorg RC1/RC2, is it currently possible to install this package on breezy?
[01:34] <LathropWells> Tokenizer - Thats Great :0
[01:34] <LathropWells> :)
[01:34] <Seveas> spot the difference (it's marked)
[01:34] <Seveas> and edit that file
[01:34] <h4zn> how can i plaqy wmp files on ubuntu?
[01:35] <meatwad65> what are the new xorg versions supposed to give now?
[01:35] <ryanpg> IIRC when I last looked into the issue xorg RC1 was not yet in dapper, has it made it in yet and if so could I pull that package into breezy?
[01:35] <german> let me check it ;)
[01:35] <brett> I need urgent help. Something wack happend with my main account I made during installation so I deleted it and made a new one. I need to get back onto the admin panel to see something but it won't let me...what can I do?
[01:35] <JanC> foobar: if there isn't one by default, you can set a hotkey in System-->Preferences-->Hotkeys (or something like that, non-English Ubuntu here)
[01:36] <h4zn> how can i plaqy wmp files on ubuntu?
[01:36] <h4zn> how can i play wmp files on ubuntu?
[01:36] <brett> :\
[01:37] <Tokenizer> well.. one thing remains...... you know the window in  System>Admin>Disks ..... when i click on drive i can format it, then i can click enable......... that works and i can browse the device which is emtpy... then i try to look at fstab again, and i see no entry for /dev/hdb ..... when i click on "Computer" under places menu .... i see no icon for my drive...... how can i now add this device so that it is's usable.....
[01:37] <Hobbsee> !tell h4zn about w32codecs
[01:37] <brett> Can no one help?
[01:37] <dvhart> I'm having trouble getting my hplip printer to work.  The scanner works via saned and hplip, but the printer doesn't.  Cups just says it's aborting jobs, and hp-toolbox says it's "powered down or unplugged"
[01:38] <bimberi> brett: boot into recovery mode and "adduser <newuser> admin"
[01:38] <LjL> brett: i think you just aren't in the sudoers list anymore, 'cause only the first-created user is. but i don't quite know how to solve that
[01:38] <dvhart> I've tried over both usb and network (powered down msg over network only)
[01:38] <foobar> janc: thanks =)
[01:38] <h4zn> how can i play wmv files on ubuntu?
[01:38] <titanium2> i ssh to my ubuntu box using Putty (from windows). im running a certain program which i want to leave running all the time, so i do ./binary & to start it, and then 'exit' to logout and close putty; however since i have something running in the bg putty just sits there and i have to force-close it. is there a better way to get something to run all the time? (i already have it set to run on system startup but it crashes sometimes and i have to re-
[01:38] <german> Seveas, so the line is kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda6 ro quiet splash acpi=off
[01:38] <xx94> *seveas* do u know what the problem is w/ myn apt
[01:38] <german> thanks!!
[01:38] <brett> how do I boot into recovery mode? When grub comes up?
[01:38] <Seveas> german, yup
[01:38] <german> no i'll try it
[01:38] <LjL> h4zn: have you seen ubotu's replies?
[01:38] <Seveas> xx94, did you paste the errors on the pastebin?
[01:38] <bimberi> brett: where <newuser> is the name of the new account
[01:39] <xx94> mhewh
[01:39] <german> just save the new file & reboot??
[01:39] <brett> what?
[01:39] <bimberi> brett: yes
[01:39] <Seveas> german, yes
[01:39] <brett> ok brb
[01:39] <xx94> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4326
[01:39] <xx94> *seveas* did u get it?
[01:40] <Seveas> looking...
[01:40] <fruud> how did i open .deb files agian ? :(
[01:40] <bimberi> fruud: sudo dpkg -i <file>
[01:40] <Julfisk> Can I disable join and quit messages?
[01:41] <Seveas> xx94, woah -- looks like a server error
[01:41] <Julfisk> I use xchat
[01:41] <meatwad65> is there a way so gnome automatically activates wlan0 on startup?
[01:41] <german> ok Seveas, i'm rebooting now
[01:41] <german> hhaa
[01:41] <Seveas> xx94, can you post your sources.list on the bin too please
[01:41] <xx94> ok
[01:41] <shadeofgrey> hey everybody
[01:41] <german> hope u're right
[01:41] <NoobieDoobieDo> hi
[01:41] <shadeofgrey> i need guidance...
[01:41] <psusi> anyone know why configure scripts would say the compiler can not create executables?  of course it can
[01:41] <dvhart> meatwad65, you can do that in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:42] <meatwad65> thanks
[01:42] <dvhart> meatwad65, it isn't really gnome's job
[01:42] <dvhart> meatwad65, 'auto wlan0'
[01:42] <bimberi> psusi: have you installed the build-essential package?
[01:42] <shadeofgrey> anybody present have a lot of experience, otr atleast a moderate amount ofexperience turning a ubuntu installation into a powerful standalone mailserver?
[01:42] <psusi> bimberi, yep...
[01:42] <meatwad65> i wasn't sure where that was at thanks
[01:42] <bimberi> psusi: hm
[01:43] <jgw> hrm everytime an opengl screensaver runs my entire machine locks up, except i can still move the mouse cursor
[01:43] <shadeofgrey> if so, someone please private message me so that we can get a private dialogue going....   my boss wants me to puit togethger afully functioning mailserver using ubuntu
[01:43] <Julfisk> I can't run quake2 through wine with opengl
[01:43] <xx94> *seveas* http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4331
[01:43] <shadeofgrey> actually he wantss meto use fedora or some other vcersion of linux
[01:44] <shadeofgrey> i convinced him that ubuntui is a better option
[01:44] <xx94> *seveas* thats my souces.list
[01:44] <jon_> This is Brett_ I got my account back
[01:44] <solidgroove> Julfisk, why are you using wine, get binary
[01:44] <meatwad65> should cd's automount?
[01:44] <shadeofgrey> but unfortunately have no idea how to go about it so any help; on that front would be morw than appreciated
[01:44] <jgw> shade: its pretty much the same as any other distro
[01:44] <shadeofgrey> hry everybody
[01:44] <Julfisk> solidgroove, I'm all new to linux in general. And I really can't get q2 work that way :p
[01:44] <german> Hi Seveas
[01:44] <jon_> I'm getting errors when I boot. Now for some odd reason it's saying "You need to be root to run this program"
[01:45] <shadeofgrey> is the stable full version of openoffivce 2 stable available through synaptic yet?
[01:45] <german> Thanks!!
[01:45] <Hobbsee> shadeofgrey: no
[01:45] <hav0k> hey, whats up with the i386 and i586 and i686 stuff?
[01:45] <german> Seveas, my problem is solved. :)
[01:45] <Seveas> xx94, these sources work fine here at the moment, can you try 'sudo apt-get update' again to see if they work for you now
[01:45] <Seveas> german, cool
[01:45] <hav0k> what does all that mean
[01:45] <german> can you please exlain me what i have done??
[01:45] <LathropWells> shadeofgrey, - take a look at this article http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.04_p6
[01:45] <german> hhaha
[01:46] <Seveas> german, the error messages were about broken acpi stuff, so we disabled acpi
[01:46] <bimberi> !ooo2
[01:46] <ubotu> Test packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html
[01:46] <Seveas> to make this permanent you need to add acpi=off to the line in menu.lst that starts with KOPT
[01:46] <Seveas> or #KOPT
[01:46] <german> and what's broken acpi, its there any problem with my computer??
[01:47] <Seveas> german, is the machine fairly old?
[01:47] <jon_> bimberi : I need to ask you a question...I'm Brett_, This is the account I deleted and recovered, my bottom bar where my trash bin and etc is; it isn't there anymore.
[01:47] <german> nop
[01:47] <jgw> is there a way to disable the screensaver via the commandline? in my settings, that is. i cant turn them off in the gui, because everytime i open the screen saver config app, the opengl preview locks my machine up
[01:47] <_Dez> !cheatcodes
[01:47] <ubotu> _Dez: What?
[01:47] <german> i just bought it a few months ago
[01:47] <_Dez> anyone know the cheatcodes for ubuntu
[01:47] <LjL> fruud: still here?
[01:47] <Seveas> _Dez, wth do you mean?
[01:47] <_Dez> i need to dissable Raid and acpi
[01:47] <xx94> *seveas* still no work ill post error in #paste ok?
[01:47] <german> it's an Intel pentium 4
[01:47] <Seveas> xx94, k
[01:48] <Seveas> german, hmm, that IS weird
[01:48] <bimberi> jon_: right-click on the top-panel and create a new panel
[01:48] <jon_> I did. Now it's empty.
[01:48] <_Dez> how do i disable -> disable Raid and acpi
[01:48] <fruud> yes, this aint goin very good...
[01:49] <Tokenizer> ok.... finally got it mounted however it's readonly...... how can i set the permission to this drive called /dev/hdb/ that is empty so thta i could drag and drop files to it.... i mounted /dev/hdb to /media/hdbdrive ...... i tried chmod 777 the hdbdrive however i got permission error
[01:49] <fruud> i get errors all over again
[01:49] <bimberi> jon_: now right-click on it and add applets (trash is about half way down - under Desktop & WIndows)
[01:49] <Blippe> where is the alsa-settings? i want to check the dmix settings...
[01:49] <german> Seveas, I've been running Win XP  with non problems at all... well maybe some virus and stuff
[01:49] <jon_> Oh k..thanks!
[01:49] <shadeofgrey> no i dont mean the test versiuon...  i mean the actual stable final release of oo.oorg2
[01:49] <bimberi> jon_: np :)
[01:50] <jon_> Errors keep popping up for no reason now like this: The Application "gnome-panel" has quit unexpectedly.
[01:50] <LissaSleep> wth?!
[01:50] <dooglus> whenever I try to run an X application from the command line I see "Tried to connect to session manager, networkIdsList argument is NULL".  I googled for that string and found exactly 0 matches!
[01:50] <LissaSleep> my laptop is working
[01:50] <LissaSleep> *boggle*
[01:50] <jon_> brb
[01:50] <Seveas> german, please file a bug in http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com against the 'linux' component describing your error messages
[01:50] <Tokenizer> anyone... anyone knows how to set permission for /dev/hdb so that i could right to it? right now chmod'ing it is not working
[01:51] <shwag> my mplayer plugin in firefox only plays streaming videos choppy. its a software issue, but i dont know how to fix it.  Can someone recommend some sort of troubleshootin method ?
[01:51] <german> i'll do that
[01:51] <Seveas> then the developers know about the problem
[01:51] <psusi> if I wanted to use strace to see what external programs get invoked a a program... what system call do I need to trace?  -eexecve or -efork don't show any calls
[01:51] <Seveas> also attacht /var/log/dmesg (after *removing* acpi=off again and rebooting)
[01:51] <german> seveas, i've nver used bugzilla before, this is my first time!! :P
[01:51] <Seveas> german, *g*, ig you need help with it, just shout
[01:52] <walter> Hello. I have installed kubuntu, it went through fine. But when I try to get into X, it says 'Fatal error: no screens found' Yes yes, I have tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, trying many different drivers and settings. It still will not boot.
[01:52] <xx94> *seveas* just pasted it
[01:52] <walter> My specs are: AMD Athlon 64 3400+, 1 gig ram, ATI Radeon x800 gto
[01:52] <walter> :/
[01:52] <jon_> bimberi: I keep getting 2 errors when I boot onto my desktop: You need to be root to run this program....and missing command to run
[01:53] <theine> walter, could you post /etc/X11/xorg.conf over at pastebin.com?
[01:54] <jon_> And GAIM just starts to run..
[01:54] <theine> jon_, do you get these messages right after the login screen?
[01:54] <LissaSleep> walter: You're going to have issues with it. Also make sure you're using a 64 build of ubuntu.
[01:54] <bimberi> jon_: i'm not sure sorry, any clues as to what program, then you can look for what's calling it
[01:54] <LissaSleep> it's an issue w/ ATI chipsets
[01:54] <jon_> theine: Yes, right when I boot into my system the errors start.
[01:54] <Seveas> jon_, system -> preferences -> sessions
[01:54] <Seveas> 3rd tab (starup programs)
[01:55] <theine> jon_, see above...
[01:55] <h4zn> LjL, yes
[01:55] <jon_> Alright i'm there.
[01:55] <h4zn> but they still dont work
[01:55] <_Dez> how do i disable -> disable Raid and acpi
[01:55] <Seveas> _Dez, acpi=off on the commandline
[01:55] <Seveas> and disable the various initscripts for raid/evms etc...
[01:55] <jon_> So now what?
[01:55] <dooglus> psusi: execve
[01:55] <Seveas> jon_, *kernel* commadn line, sorry
[01:56] <Seveas> which means: editing /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:56] <jon_> What does that mean? I just got my Linux system up yesterday
[01:56] <psusi> dooglus, I tried strace -eexecve, didn't show any calls
[01:56] <psusi> just a bunch of SIGCHLDs
[01:56] <dooglus> psusi: I did a test case using "find -exec".  I needed to use "strace -f" for some reason to see the execve.  look: $ strace -f find . -type f -exec /bin/ls -l '{}' ";" 2>&1 | grep ' exec'
[01:56] <dooglus> [pid  7097]  execve("/bin/ls", ["/bin/ls", "-l", "./10000"] , [/* 36 vars */] ) = 0
[01:56] <psusi> hrm...
[01:56] <Melissa83> walter: What worked for me was using the VESA drivers
[01:57] <fenderman> hi everybody :)
[01:57] <dooglus> psusi: why don't I see the execve call if I don't use the -f flag to strace?
[01:57] <psusi> beats me
[01:57] <Melissa83> walter: Plus my laptop is EXTREMELY sensitive as to screen resolution. Also, I'm told that the CVS of Xorg supports the ati chipsets, so i'm working on getting those.
[01:57] <bimberi> Seveas: last 2 lines posts meant for _Dez (not jon_)?
[01:57] <SGershon> :P I've installed ApachePHP and mySQL. How can I make them work together?
[01:57] <ojt> seveas,thnx a lot
[01:57] <jon_> Ok...
[01:57] <pdk> i came to ask again
[01:57] <ojt> seveas,it works
[01:58] <jon_> So, i'm in the sessions and now what? How can I get theese errors to stop?
[01:58] <pdk> if anyone has any idea what's up with this error i get everytime i try to run the ubuntu install cd on this old comp i have
[01:58] <pdk> or any linux livecd for that matter :\
[01:58] <bimberi> jon_: anything listed in the startup programs tab?
[01:58] <xx94> *seveas* got big error once more
[01:58] <fenderman> i have the dumbest question but please help me, how can i learn to use ubuntu? i mean command line and all
[01:58] <Seveas> bimberi, nice catch :|
[01:58] <xx94> *seveas* other error in #paste
[01:58] <pdk> i wrote a log of one of my attempts if it helps
[01:58] <Phuzion> How do I make a user have full access in /var/www
[01:59] <bimberi> Seveas: go to bed! :P
[01:59] <psusi> AHA!
[01:59] <jon_> No. But GAIM starts up and 2 errors pop up. And when I was trying to add more panels to the panel and error kept coming up when I came half way down
[01:59] <psusi> omg... it's trying to link an elf-i386 image.. no wonder it is failing
[01:59] <Melissa83> fenderman: http://www.linuxcommands.org
[01:59] <ArnoudDeVries> anyone using mod_mono with apache2?
[01:59] <psusi> now WTF is it doing that?
[01:59] <Seveas> xx94, are you behind some sort of filering procy perhaps?
[01:59] <dooglus> psusi: I think that clone() is the system call you need to look for
[01:59] <anavim> what is bendy?
[01:59] <Phuzion> ArbiydDeVries, what do you need, just to install it?
[02:00] <fenderman> thanks melissa, i'll check that for sure but is there a book or something more "straight foreward" that you can recommend
[02:00] <ArnoudDeVries> yes tried installing it but getting error 503
[02:00] <preglow> there used to be a package for the x nvidia driver, yes? can anyone remember what it is/was called? i upgraded to breezy and my x doesn't take too kindly to me anymore
[02:00] <psusi> dooglus, I didn't really want the fork... execve is what I was looking for... shows the command line it passed to ld
[02:00] <psusi> and it's telling ld to make an elf-i386 image for some reason
[02:00] <psusi> which is probably why it is failing
[02:00] <_Dez> how do i disable RAID and ACPI when booting?>
[02:00] <Phuzion> ArnoudDeVries, you modded apache2.conf, correct?
[02:00] <ArnoudDeVries> yes
[02:00] <Melissa83> fenderman: Well, for more advanced reading (and not a bad book either if you can stomach it) is "Unix: In a Nutshell"
[02:00] <theine> psusi, what kind of image do you want to generate?
[02:00] <eliezer> hello people! i wonder if you can help me. i have two HD, one has Windows, the other one Linux. Im on the linux one right now (obvously ;) ) but Id like to transfer some of my files to the Linux HD before getting rid of the windows one. Suggestions?
[02:00] <dooglus> psusi: problem is, the process uses 'clone' to make a new process, and after that you're no longer tracing the child, so you don't see the exec.
[02:00] <anavim> is bendy the the old name for 5.10 which is now breezy?
[02:00] <Phuzion> ArnoudDeVries, follow these instructions.
[02:00] <Phuzion> http://www.apacheworld.org/modmono/INSTALL
[02:00] <dooglus> psusi: unless you 'strace -f'
[02:01] <german> Seveas, tell me if it's ok
[02:01] <ArnoudDeVries> i recompiled with debugging on and i see in the apache log errors about now finding the socket
[02:01] <theine> _Dez, for raid, sudo dpkg-reconfigure mdadm
[02:01] <psusi> theine, seeing as how I'm on amd64, I would think it should use that
[02:01] <german> i'm not english native speaker
[02:01] <psusi> dooglus, right...
[02:01] <fenderman> i just love ubuntu and don't want to stop using it because i don't know how to use it
[02:01] <ArnoudDeVries> i'll take a look thanks
[02:01] <theine> psusi, elf-i386 runs fine on AMD64
[02:01] <jon_> I KNOW WHAT IT IS!!
[02:01] <german> I'm running an intel pentium 4 machine, with Ubuntu version 5.04, and when booting linux the appears the following:
[02:01] <german> Pnp:PnPACPI:Method_Name__CRS Failure for PNP0C02
[02:01] <german> Pnp:PnPACPI:Method_Name__CRS Failure for PNP0C01
[02:01] <german> Please help me!!
[02:01] <sexcopter8000m> is it possible to control cpu scaling? mine goes down to 798mhz, but there must be instances where i can drop it even lower quite safely...
[02:01] <anavim> fenderman, so don't
[02:01] <xx94> *seveas* im not sure
[02:01] <dooglus> psusi: it's basically a fork-and-exec, except it's using clone() instead of fork()
[02:01] <_Dez> theine what about ACPI
[02:01] <psusi> theine, yea... but I don't think the compiler can create them by default
[02:01] <Phuzion> How do I make a user have full read/write access to /var/www?
[02:01] <xx94> *seveas* but i run a couple servers on my box
[02:02] <theine> _Dez, take a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:02] <jon_> Last night I was doing the updates, I clicked before I logged out when I boot back into the screenname that the updates will automatically install...but they aren't
[02:02] <dooglus> Phuzion: if only one user wants access, change it to be owned by that user:  sudo chown dood:dood /var/www
[02:02] <Phuzion> dooglus, will root be able to get into there too?
[02:02] <dooglus> Phuzion: root can get everywhere :)
[02:02] <eliezer> hello people! i wonder if you can help me. i have two HD, one has Windows, the other one Linux. Im on the linux one right now (obvously ;) ) but Id like to transfer some of my files to the Linux HD before getting rid of the windows one. Suggestions?
[02:02] <Phuzion> Sweet.
[02:03] <Phuzion> dooglus, what is the dood:dood?
[02:03] <theine> _Dez, you need to add "acpi=off" to the kopt line, i.e. replace "# kopt=root=/dev/hdX ro" by "# kopt=root=/dev/hdX ro acpi=off"
[02:03] <jon_> C'mon, no one knows how to fix this?
[02:03] <n0odl3> how do i change my background with xfce?
[02:03] <dooglus> Phuzion: alternatively, you could use the group instead:  add your user to the www-data group (sudo adduser dood www-data) and change the group of the dir to be www-data (sudo chgrp www-data /var/www) then make it group-writable: (sudo chmod g+w /var/www)
[02:03] <Unition> im having problems getting the dvd to run on my computer...
[02:03] <psusi> wait... I'm confused now...
[02:03] <theine> jon_, what error message are you actually getting?
[02:03] <dooglus> Phuzion: that is the username twice
[02:03] <psusi> [pid 18763]  execve("/usr/bin/ld", ["/usr/bin/ld", "--eh-frame-hdr", "-m", "elf_i386", "-dynamic-linker", "/lib/ld-linux.so.2", "/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4."..., "/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4."..., "/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4."..., "-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/usr
[02:03] <psusi> /lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/"..., "-L/lib/../lib32", ...] , [/* 53 vars */] ) = 0
[02:03] <anavim> jon_, did you try to reinstall?
[02:03] <dooglus> Phuzion: I'm assuming your user is called dude
[02:03] <Unition> im getting a black screen when it try's to boot the live dvd
[02:04] <psusi> I see that in the strace output... why is elf_i386 in there?
[02:04] <jon_> 1 sec let me exit my account and relog in brb
[02:04] <theine> psusi, elf_i386 is fine, I tell ya
[02:04] <dooglus> psusi: is that from "strace -f"?
[02:04] <Phuzion> dooglus, so it would be chown Phuzion:Phuzion /var/www?
[02:04] <psusi> hrm...
[02:04] <psusi> dooglus, yes
[02:04] <eliezer> im in trouble and i need help. :( //  i have two HD, one has Windows, the other one Linux. Im on the linux one right now (obvously ;) ) but Id like to transfer some of my files to the Linux HD before getting rid of the windows one. Suggestions?
[02:05] <psusi> maybe there's a better way to trace this... can you ask bash to echo commands it processes in the configure script?
[02:05] <bimberi> eliezer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:05] <theine> eliezer, boot linux and copy them over
[02:05] <dooglus> Phuzion: yeah.  but the group thing is probably better.
[02:05] <Phuzion> Alright
[02:05] <jgw> hrm ati 9x000 vid card + opengl screensaver + ubuntu 5.10 == lockup / solution == install fglrx xorg driver, which wasnt installed by default
[02:05] <psusi> that way I can just look at what configure is running, not all the grand children
[02:05] <theine> psusi, look at config.log
[02:05] <dooglus> Phuzion: 'cos then, in the future, you can add more users to the group to give them access.
[02:05] <eliezer> the thing is that the Windows HD is not being recognized.
[02:05] <eliezer> If im on Windows I can't see the HD with Linux.
[02:05] <dooglus> Phuzion: when the little Phuzions grow up and want websites of their own...  :)
[02:05] <psusi> theine, useless... just says configure: exit 77
[02:06] <theine> psusi, that's the only thing it's saying??
[02:06] <dooglus> psusi: the -m is for eMulation, apparently
[02:06] <eliezer> I guess theyre not on Master/Slave configuration, I can't open my CPU to verify that because the warranty would be avoided. =P
[02:06] <psusi> theine, well, it shows a bunch of variables it has
[02:06] <ryanpg> so no one knows if xorg RC1 are available for breezy?
[02:06] <theine> eliezer, you need to mount the windows partition by hand then
[02:06] <psusi> it doesnot show the command it invoked that failed
[02:06] <_Dez> .xinitrc
[02:06] <theine> psusi, can you paste it at pastebin.com?
[02:06] <_Dez> where do i change these
[02:06] <eliezer> how can i do that theine?
[02:06] <psusi> ok...
[02:06] <dooglus> psusi: "bash -x" will echo commands as it runs them
[02:06] <theine> eliezer, which partition is your windows installation on?
[02:06] <dooglus> psusi: or "set -x" in a running bash
[02:07] <eliezer> is not a partition, i have two HD.
[02:07] <jon_> The errors didn't pop up this time.
[02:07] <_Dez> how do i change this .xinitrc
[02:07] <theine> eliezer, you still have at least one partition.
[02:07] <_Dez> i mean where is .xinitrc locaed
[02:07] <jon_> But I still have one more problem. Can anyone help?
[02:07] <bimberi> jon_: i'm stumped (hence unresponsive) sorry :|
[02:07] <theine> eliezer, or in this case at least 2 of course
[02:08] <psusi> http://pastebin.com/424998
[02:08] <eliezer> ok, I guess windows it's on C: and linux on D:
[02:08] <theine> _Dez, why do you want to change ~/.xinitrc ?
[02:08] <jon_> bimberi : I don't get the errors anymore, but whenever I try to add a panel it freezes...
[02:08] <Phuzion> dooglus, I'm still getting my 500 request denied message.
[02:08] <Seveas> xx94, first check whether you actually use a proxy
[02:08] <Phuzion> I'm trying to make a user have full read/write access through FTP.
[02:08] <Seveas> .me off to bed now
[02:08] <Phuzion> And apparently it's not working.
[02:08] <Phuzion> Later Seveas
[02:09] <jon_> Seeya
[02:09] <theine> eliezer, it's better you boot linux and ask for help then
[02:09] <eliezer> ok theine. im sorry.
[02:09] <eliezer> thank you so much anyway.
[02:09] <theine> eliezer, no worries, it'll just be easier
[02:09] <shadeofgrey> okay guys
[02:09] <eliezer> (: fine, see ya.
[02:10] <shadeofgrey> im going toi sign off and do abase server install of ubuntu to see what it looks like
[02:10] <shadeofgrey> be back in 45 mins or so
[02:10] <nebular> so I'm compiling a kernel for the first time in a long time and I"m noticing that it says root device is (3,2). Does that mean the device I"m booting off of is hard coded?
[02:10] <LathropWells> eliezer - Have you tried the winmac_fstab script to find and mount all drives follow ubotu !ntfs - for windows xp to see linux formatted partitions google explore ext2fs it is a driver for windows
[02:11] <cyphase> *sigh* http://www.livejournal.com/users/bleeter/12357.html
[02:11] <LathropWells> he left -shrug
[02:11] <theine> he'll be back...
[02:11] <cafuego_> bleater?
[02:11] <_Dez> how do i Get to shell from WM
[02:11] <xx94> *seveas*  no proxy
[02:11] <theine> _Dez, which WM?
[02:11] <_Dez> mvm
[02:11] <_Dez> nvm*
[02:12] <theine> _Dez, mwm?
[02:12] <jon_> bimberi: I'm getting this error: The window "Add to panel" is not responding. Forcing  this application to quit  will cause you to lose any unsaved changes.
[02:12] <psusi> AHA!
[02:12] <Phuzion> If a file is created by root, can it be deleted by a user that has full acceses to the directory?
[02:12] <psusi> it's the damn -m32 flatg
[02:12] <psusi> flag
[02:12] <cusco> 1:11 DCC can't create file /media/storage/irc/lol.mp3: Permission denied
[02:12] <psusi> removed that from CFLAGS in configure and it makes it past that
[02:12] <cusco> please
[02:12] <psusi> it looks like gcc on amd64 does not like -m32
[02:13] <theine> _Dez, left, middle. or right click on the desktop and select xterm. can't remember which
[02:13] <bimberi> jon_: yes, i'm at loss to help with it sorry :/
[02:13] <cusco> /media/storage is a fat32 partition
[02:13] <jon_> Ohhh, anybody else?
[02:13] <cusco> which is mounted on fstab as /dev/hda5       /media/storage  vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=0222   0       0
[02:13] <bimberi> jon_: actually. a thought.  did you say you deleted and created the account?
[02:13] <jon_> Yes
[02:13] <bimberi> jon_: with the same name?
[02:14] <theine> psusi, what are you actually compiling?
[02:14] <jon_> Yeah
[02:14] <chcken> seveas:do you use breezy
[02:14] <psusi> theine, grub
[02:14] <jon_> Recovery mode again?
[02:14] <bimberi> jon_: ok, try this...
[02:14] <bimberi> jon_: no
[02:14] <jon_> k
[02:14] <theine> psusi, maybe you should file a bug report
[02:14] <cusco> what do I have to change so I can write to /media/storage/irc/ ?
[02:14] <psusi> theine, going to try and debug it to figure out why the hell it is opening /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 and looking for an MBR there when I give it a setup (hd0) command
[02:15] <chcken> seveas
[02:15] <bimberi> jon_: open a terminal, "cd ..", "sudo chown -R user:user user"
[02:15] <psusi> after I gave it a device (hd0) /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae command
[02:15] <cusco> I chmoded the dir 777 with sudo
[02:15] <Phuzion> Are files made by root untouchable by other users, regardless of whether or not they have full access to the directory?
[02:15] <psusi> but report probably will be ignored
[02:15] <psusi> I'd rather get it working
[02:15] <bimberi> jon_: where user is your username
[02:15] <_Dez> how do i add Fluxbox to auto start on boot?
[02:15] <theine> psusi, wrong attitude ;)
[02:15] <chcken> can anyone tell me how to install java on breezy
[02:15] <jon_> So how do I type it?
[02:15] <psusi> oh, I'll file a report after I fix it
[02:15] <psusi> and include the patch
[02:15] <psusi> like I did with lilo
[02:16] <cusco> Phuzion: how do I mount the partition so taht I can allow users to create files on it then?
[02:16] <bimberi> jon_: for example   -   sudo chown bimberi:bimberi bimberi
[02:16] <cusco> /dev/hda5       /media/storage  vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=0222   0       0
[02:16] <chcken> can anyone tell me how to install java on breezy
[02:16] <theine> psusi, but anyway, I thought grub isn't even aware of device-mapper stuff...
[02:16] <jon_> so user:user pass
[02:16] <psusi> theine, it isn't... it doesn't know or care... as long as it knows which block device corresponds to which bios disk and partition
[02:16] <Phuzion> cusco, no idea
[02:16] <chcken> can anyone tell me how to install java on breezy
[02:16] <bimberi> jon_: no, not the password, the username again
[02:16] <psusi> which I tried to explain to it with the device commands, but it doesn't seem to listen correctly
[02:17] <LathropWells> !java
[02:17] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[02:17] <theine> psusi, that's what i thought, so why the hell is it looking for something in /dev/mapper?
[02:17] <anathema_> !faq
[02:17] <ubotu> I heard faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation or http://help.ubuntu.com
[02:17] <chcken> can sum1 tell obotu to tell me about java
[02:17] <psusi> theine, because I had to tell it that /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae is the block device for hd0
[02:17] <derekh> !link
[02:17] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, derekh
[02:17] <psusi> so that it can open the disk and write the MBR
[02:17] <derekh> !list
[02:17] <ubotu> I guess list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:17] <theine> psusi, why did you have to do that??
[02:18] <jon_> Alright I typed: sudo chown jon:jon jon and it won't work
[02:18] <psusi> otherwise it would be trying to open /dev/hda
[02:18] <chcken> ! ubotu tell chcken about java
[02:18] <ubotu> chcken: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[02:18] <bimberi> jon_: any error from the command?
[02:18] <theine> psusi, which is not what you want?
[02:18] <anathema_> hey i used to be able to apt-get install azureus
[02:18] <anathema_> but its not there now
[02:18] <jon_> cannot access 'jon': no such file or dictionary
[02:18] <anathema_> any ideas why/
[02:18] <psusi> no...  well, actually I do have a /dev/sda and /dev/sdb... but those are the two individual disks
[02:18] <anathema_> the faq says i can do it, along wiht ubuntu wiki
[02:18] <psusi> which are in a raid-0
[02:18] <bimberi> jon_: type "cd /home" and then try the command again
[02:19] <theine> psusi, so where exactly do you want the mbr to be written then?
[02:19] <Unition> anyone in here hear of anyone buying a compaq r4000
[02:19] <chcken> can someone please tell ubotu to tell me about java
[02:19] <psusi> theine, /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae
[02:19] <Hobbsee> !tell chcken about javadeb
[02:19] <Hobbsee> !tell chcken about java
[02:19] <chcken> ty hobs
[02:19] <anathema_> !azureus
[02:19] <ubotu> methinks azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[02:19] <jon_> bimberi_: It worked
[02:19] <theine> psusi, i'm quite sure that's not what you want...
[02:19] <psusi> which will get routed by the mapper to the first sector of /dev/sda
[02:19] <bimberi> jon_: great,  now see if you're still having these issues
[02:19] <psusi> theine, I'm quite sure that I do, I got lilo working that way ;)
[02:20] <jon_> So just exit the terminal?
[02:20] <theine> psusi, what's wrong with writing the mbr to the boot sector of /dev/sda?
[02:20] <bimberi> jon_: yeah, probably won't need it anymore
[02:20] <ph4nt0m> hi people
[02:20] <bimberi> jon_: what we did was make sure that everything in your home directory is owned by you
[02:20] <psusi> theine, well, for the MBR I guess it doesn't matter... but grub also needs to be able to open the /boot partition to map where the state 2 loader is
[02:20] <jon_> Crap, the add to panel error is still comin
[02:20] <psusi> and that is /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5
[02:21] <bimberi> jon_: :/ - i did have hopes for that
[02:21] <bimberi> jon_: i'm back to being stumped again sorry
[02:21] <constantine-xvi> attempting to install ndis drivers, getting "operation not permitted"
[02:21] <theine> psusi, right, but you need to write the mbr to /dev/sda, no matter where the boot partition is
[02:21] <jon_> bimberi: Now it's saying that GNOME-Panel is exiting unsuspectively..
[02:22] <psusi> theine, which is where it will go... sector 0 of /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae is mapped to sector 0 of /dev/sda
[02:22] <Ceddy23> hey guys
[02:22] <constantine-xvi> need help installing ndiswrapper drivers
[02:22] <lightstar> heya..anyone knows how to play mkv files in ubuntu?
[02:22] <theine> psusi, have you actually tried writing it to /dev/sda?
[02:22] <psusi> but for grub to read the /boot partition, it can't just look on /dev/sda or /dev/sdb... it's striped between the two... it has to open /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5
[02:22] <Ceddy23> i got a problem with my winmodem drivers, can someone gimme a hand ?
[02:22] <jon_> bimberi: let me try relogging in..
[02:22] <Hobbsee> !tell constantine-xvi about ndiswrapper
[02:22] <theine> psusi, which it cannot do since it doesn't support device-mapper...
[02:23] <ubuntu> hello guys
[02:23] <psusi> theine, can't get it to just write the MBR... it has to place the address of the first sector of the stage 2 loader in it, so it has to map out where that is located at first
[02:23] <Ceddy23> i foundd the drivers, it's on my desktop as a .tar file but as of there, i dont know what to do
[02:23] <psusi> it doesn't have to support device mapper... it just opens the block device
[02:23] <psusi> the problem is telling it which is the proper block device it should be opening
[02:23] <jon_> bimberi: nope...
[02:23] <psusi> the device command is what you are supposed to use to do that if it fails to guess it correctly
[02:24] <theine> psusi, have you tried saying root /dev/mapper/yadayade inside grub?
[02:24] <psusi> only it doesn't quite understand the commands right
[02:24] <constantine-xvi> ndiswrapper functioning properly, but gives "operation  not permitted" when i do "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[02:24] <durt> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:24] <nebular> what does "root device is 93,2) mean when compiling a custom kernel
[02:24] <psusi> theine, yes, when I do that it says the partition table is corrupt... I turned on debug messages and before the error it says it is opening /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5, which is the /boot partition, not the disk itself... so it is looking for the MBR in the boot sector of the /boot partition instead
[02:24] <Ceddy23> what's a .tar file ??
[02:24] <constantine-xvi> done that
[02:25] <jon_> bimberi: My dads account works fine....WHat if I make another account, can I still use the root password to install programs?
[02:25] <Hobbsee> Ceddy23: an archive, you can untar it
[02:25] <psusi> theine, this is because I gave it a device (hd,4) /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 command to tell it to use that block device for the 4th partition on hd0
[02:25] <Ceddy23> how ??
[02:26] <theine> psusi, if I were you, I would seriously consider having a seperate /boot partition not under lvm2
[02:26] <psusi> but I also gave it a device (hd0) /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae command to tell it to use that device for access to the raw disk ( for the MBR ) but it isn't listening
[02:26] <constantine-xvi> transcript: "@lappy:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"
[02:26] <psusi> theine, this isn't LVM...
[02:26] <psusi> it's hardware fakeraid
[02:26] <theine> psusi, or raid for that matter
[02:26] <psusi> no can do
[02:26] <theine> psusi, same thing I guess
[02:26] <nickrud> Ceddy23, right click the file, and open with the archive manager
[02:26] <psusi> the bios raids the entire drive
[02:27] <theine> psusi,  what about "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 /dev/sda
[02:27] <theine> "
[02:27] <Ceddy23> if they're modem drivers, should i do something special with them ??
[02:27] <nickrud> heh
[02:27] <psusi> hrm.... let me see...
[02:28] <nickrud> Ceddy23, probably, there should be a README file inside
[02:28] <intelikey> command to fix broken packages ?
[02:28] <yaoming> everybody tell me  by firefox in linux why i cant open some page which i can open in XP by IE?
[02:28] <nickrud> yaoming, what page?
[02:29] <psusi> mkdir: cannot create directory `/dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5/boot': Not a directory
[02:29] <nickrud> intelikey, sudo apt-get install -f usually works
[02:29] <Red-Sox> uhoh!
[02:29] <yaoming> some page like yahoo
[02:29] <constantine-xvi> cant sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"
[02:29] <psusi> theine, --root-directory is supposed to be a directory... i.e. /boot
[02:29] <psusi> I think
[02:29] <Red-Sox> I get this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4333 when I open synaptic and all the packages are selected!
[02:30] <constantine-xvi> what causes this?
[02:30] <nickrud> yaoming, I've got a yahoo account, firefox reads it fine
[02:30] <Ceddy23> i tried opening it with archive manager but there's no content in it :s
[02:30] <theine> psusi, then make an appropriate link called "boot" to /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 and specify the parent to the --root-directory option
[02:30] <intelikey> well sudo is not installed.   and a deb has a dep that i don't seem to have installed but i have no info on it....   is there not just a command that will check all installed packages for deps ?
[02:30] <psusi> theine, no no... /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 is a block device... /boot is a directory
[02:31] <durt> constantine-xvi: do you have linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` and your kernel headers?
[02:31] <Red-Sox> yoaming: sorry, I just logged in...do you mean f.f. displays it funny?
[02:31] <yaoming> nickrud, i think there are some mistake in my network.
[02:31] <Red-Sox> anyone?
[02:31] <theine> psusi, of course, so is /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 mounted anywhere?
[02:31] <psusi> grub-install's --root-directory option wants a directory, not a block device ( or link to one )
[02:31] <constantine-xvi> to durt: as in packages?
[02:31] <psusi> theine, yes, in /boot
[02:31] <durt> yes
[02:31] <nickrud> Red-Sox, I'd say try updating the package list first
[02:31] <Red-Sox> nickrud: sudo apt-get update?
[02:32] <theine> psusi, ok, the "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/ /dev/sda"
[02:32] <nickrud> intelikey, is this deb from outside the ubuntu repositories?
[02:32] <nickrud> Red-Sox, yes
[02:32] <intelikey> no
[02:32] <theine> psusi, what does that give you?
[02:32] <Red-Sox> okay
[02:32] <psusi> /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[02:32] <nickrud> intelikey, do you get errors when trying to dpkg -i it
[02:32] <intelikey> yes
[02:32] <theine> psusi, which is true...
[02:32] <constantine-xvi> yes
[02:33] <nickrud> intelikey, well, we'll need to see them :) pastebin?
[02:33] <psusi> theine, well, it is true that grub does not know about it...
[02:33] <psusi> but it DOES have a corresponding bios drive
[02:33] <yaoming> my ISP provide a URL to me for a free tv online.i can use it in XP,but i cant
[02:33] <LathropWells> yaoming - i have no trouble with yahoo or even game sites  like boxerjam but, i have installed sun java (ubotu !javadeb will give info) and mozcontrol for flash. check ubuntuguide.org or ubotu !restricted formats
[02:33] <psusi> it's just bios disk 0x80
[02:33] <yaoming> open it in linux
[02:33] <Red-Sox> nickrud: also, when I log into gnome, it doesnt load the panels all the way, can you help me with this?
[02:33] <Red-Sox> NickServ
[02:33] <Red-Sox> okay...thats not it
[02:33] <psusi> to the bios on my system there is no disk 0x81, there is only one big disk 0x80
[02:33] <intelikey> nick "dependancy problem prevents configuration of...."
[02:33] <constantine-xvi> durt: yes, i do have those installed, i think i needed those to compile ndiswrapper
[02:34] <theine> psusi, well, I guess in this case it's important what grub thinks
[02:34] <noah> anybody know what the change is that took the hostname out of new ~/.ssh/known_hosts entries?
[02:34] <psusi> theine, aye... but grub has a device command where you are supposed to be able to tell it what to think if it guesses wrong
[02:34] <intelikey> nickrub "dependancy problem prevents configuration of...."  so it installed just didn't configure
[02:34] <psusi> only it doesn't quite work right
[02:34] <nickrud> Red-Sox, maybe, but I'm pretty brutal with bad acting panels, I tend to remove them and rebuild them
[02:34] <nickrud> intelikey, it'll tell you what dependencies it didn't find
[02:35] <intelikey> nickrud no it didn't
[02:35] <durt> constantine, make sure you have those restricted modules, otherwise i dont know
[02:35] <Red-Sox> nickrud: then with sudo apt-get update, I get this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4334
[02:35] <duke3z> hiya
[02:35] <Red-Sox> hi
[02:35] <the_night> ok here is my problem, I decided to install the fglrx binary in order that I could have 3d, now my computer will not display the resolution that I would like it to since this is a widescreen laptop, I used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set the resolutions to what I wanted, but I cannot use the one that I chose
[02:35] <constantine-xvi> durt: i do for sure
[02:35] <nickrud> ah, weird. could I see the whole output? no promises, but I've screwed my system enough times to have seen a lot of errors
[02:35] <theine> psusi, is that --device-map?
[02:35] <psusi> theine, yes, you can do it that way too
[02:35] <the_night> that and whenever it tries to autodetect the monitor it blacks out
[02:36] <sudothis> please help... emergency ........ right now i restarted ubuntu, right at the very beginning of boot, I get "Grub Loading state 1.5." ... then next line it says "Grub loading, please wait...", then it says "error 15" ..... anyone knows how to fix this???? i have so much stuff on that computer which i can't afford to lose.... please help
[02:36] <nickrud> Red-Sox, do you have synaptic open?
[02:36] <intelikey> it may be a pakage that is install just not configured yet....   you think ?
[02:36] <yaoming> yesterday i stop my IPV6 ,but i still cant open some page
[02:36] <theine> psusi, and you tried "device /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 /dev/sda" or what?
[02:36] <the_night> anyone have any ideas?
[02:36] <intelikey> what is that dpkg command to reconfigure all ?
[02:37] <yaoming> ps:i am in china
[02:37] <nickrud> intelikey, as root, did you do apt-get install -f?
[02:37] <theine> psusi, what was /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5 mapped onto again?
[02:37] <psusi> theine, yes... I gave it two device commands... one for the disk, and one for the partition, like this:
[02:37] <psusi> device (hd0) /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae
[02:37] <intelikey> not apt   dpkg ?
[02:37] <duke3z> man i can't understand root on ubuntu yet
[02:37] <psusi> device (hd0,4) /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5
[02:37] <durt> constantine-xvi: are you sure that ndiswrapper.ko exists in that directory?
[02:37] <duke3z> is the a good page for that someplace?
[02:37] <intelikey> i'll have to install apt first.
[02:38] <the_night> so no one has any ideas?
[02:38] <constantine-xvi> hold please
[02:38] <theine> psusi, did it complain?
[02:38] <psusi> only when I issue the root (hd0,4) command, it tries to read the MBR from /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae5
[02:38] <nickrud> intelikey, 0^0 did I read that right?
[02:38] <psusi> it only complains once I issue the root command
[02:38] <constantine-xvi> durt: most definitley
[02:38] <theine> psusi, i don't understand why the root command even tries to read the mbr, i thought it only looks for configuration and stage files
[02:39] <the_night> did anyone read my problem at least?
[02:39] <nickrud> Red-Sox, the error I see is either something else is using dpkg, or you have a stale lock. look around for an open apt-get, aptitude or synaptic session, close them, and try updating again
[02:39] <psusi> theine, it looks like it also tries to verify the MBR... if I use rootnoverify, it is ok, but then the setup command fails
[02:39] <theine> psusi, ah, ok
[02:39] <intelikey> what nickrud that sudo and apt are not yet installed..... yes you read it correctly.
[02:40] <nickrud> intelikey, you manually installing all the debs or something?
[02:40] <the_night> hrm I guess no one did...
[02:40] <the_night> lol
[02:40] <nba_> anybody knows how to connect to internet in red hat. thanks
[02:40] <intelikey> manual installing some debs yes
[02:40] <the_night> oh well thanks anyways
[02:40] <nickrud> the_night, I did, but I don't have nvidia
[02:40] <psusi> wait a tick... hrm...
[02:41] <intelikey> disk space is pretty tight here and i can't afford the bloat of a default server install.
[02:41] <the_night> I dont understand, I am using ati not nvidia
[02:41] <the_night> fglrx is ati
[02:41] <psusi> see when I edit devices.map it barfs on the (hd0,4) part... like it doesn't like to be told about partitions, only raw disks
[02:41] <the_night> the binary for ati
[02:41] <psusi> so I tried leaving out the device (hd0,4) command and now it says this:
[02:41] <psusi> Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS
[02:41] <bimberi> the_night: perhaps try editing xorg.conf and adding the resolutions manually
[02:42] <the_night> thats what is strange, it is already there... it just wont let me change it in the settings
[02:42] <the_night> is there a way to change to res in the terminal
[02:42] <Red-Sox> nickrud: thanks for actually responding and helping me
[02:42] <bimberi> the_night: ah, well at least i read your question :P
[02:42] <the_night> lol thanks
[02:42] <constantine-xvi> durt: ndiswrapper.ko is -rw-r--r--, does that matter?
[02:42] <yaoming> i cant check ubuntu.org in ubuntu,but i can check it in XP!why??
[02:42] <nickrud> intelikey, I'd suggest using debian then, you can stop the install with apt, if I remember correctly
[02:42] <theine> psusi, i'm beginning to doubt whether i'm able to help you with this in any way...
[02:42] <intelikey> nickrud nm i got it.
[02:43] <nickrud> Red-Sox, did you get it?
[02:43] <yaoming> O_O
[02:43] <nickrud> *at apt, or dselect, anyway, with a tiny install
[02:43] <intelikey> nickrud yeah but i don't have a debian cd i do have ub 5.4 cd   so ub it is.
[02:43] <sudothis> how can i freaking run ubuntu in diagnostic mode.... i'm getting this Grub error #15 that doesn't let me go anywhere... is there an option to boot from CD and repair? or run linux in diagnostic mode?
[02:43] <nickrud> intelikey, do you have a good net?
[02:43] <intelikey> 56k
[02:43] <nickrud> nm
[02:43] <Red-Sox> nickrud: yes thank you soooooooooooooooooo much
[02:44] <ali_> hi can anyone guide me in which language configuration files are written ?
[02:44] <Red-Sox> now let me try gnome panels
[02:44] <psusi> sudothis, yea, stick the cd in the drive and boot from it
[02:44] <ali_> such as /etc/network/interfaces
[02:44] <ookami> is there a way to retrieve info from the Cache in Mozilla such as JPG's SWF's ?
[02:44] <constantine-xvi> sudothis: do you have an ubuntu-live/knoppix/slax/etc...?
[02:44] <intelikey> nickrud like i said never mind i got it.....   thanks akneeway
[02:44] <ali_> how to understand these files what they are doing ?
[02:44] <LathropWells> sudothis - just curious was /var/logs  helpful?
[02:44] <sudothis> psusi, that will run the installation ....
[02:45] <theine> ali_, man interfaces
[02:45] <sudothis> i want to do it as like Gentoo linux
[02:45] <constantine-xvi> durt: ndiswrapper.ko is -rw-r--r--, does that matter?
[02:45] <theine> ali_, ... would be a start
[02:45] <psusi> sudothis, there's an option when the cd boots for rescue mode, or you can try the livecd instead
[02:45] <ali_> theine, which language they use to write these files ?
[02:45] <theine> ali_, english
[02:45] <ali_> theine, bash ?
[02:45] <ali_> theine,  i mean programming language
[02:46] <MarcN> ookami: Try looking under ~/.mozilla/ to find the cache files.
[02:46] <psusi> theine, is there a way to tell grub to use LBA mode?
[02:46] <psusi> it seems to not like the fact that /boot is above the 8 GB mark
[02:46] <psusi> but that's only a problem for CHS mode
[02:47] <theine> psusi, there is a --force-lba option to grub-install
[02:47] <duke3z> has anyone isntalled cedega?
[02:47] <bimberi> ali_: they're not really in a programming language, they're just formatted in a way that a program can understand when it reads it
[02:47] <theine> ali_, they used an editor to write these files
[02:47] <intelikey> hhhmm ok got to dl a few things.    be back when that finishes in about an hour.
[02:47] <ali_> bimberi, but if i want to write my own ?
[02:47] <MarcN> ookami: try looking using this:   find ~/.mozilla -name 'Cache'
[02:47] <MarcN> cd to the appropriate directory and then try:    file *  to try to figure out what the files are.
[02:47] <ali_> bimberi, customized file what should i do ?
[02:47] <theine> ali_, your own configuration file?
[02:47] <bimberi> ali_: "man interfaces" (for example) can tell you what format that file needs to be in
[02:47] <ookami> MarcN, i did, but i dont reconize what i see. Example:   ookami@Navi:~/.mozilla/firefox/tc3cyekp.default/Cache$ ls
[02:47] <ookami> 01CC0844d01  2F38EED5d01  469B990Dd01  8175983Ed01  BF8CFE26d01
[02:48] <sudothis> how do you run this freaking thing in rescue mode? i'm at the CD boot: prompt and when i press F1, it says nothing about rescue mode
[02:48] <ali_> ok theine , bimberi
[02:48] <ali_> takecare
[02:48] <MarcN> ookami: right, those are your cached html, jpg, etc files.
[02:48] <bimberi> ali_ k :)
[02:48] <MarcN> They won't have something.jpg or index.html for names.
[02:49] <ookami> MarcN, is there a graphical way to bring this up? im seeing this in the terminal, but i dont see it in the File Browser.
[02:49] <bimberi> ookami: nautilus .mozilla
[02:50] <MarcN> ookami: I don't use the filebrowser.  Beats me.
[02:50] <ookami> Thanks Bimberi and MarcN.
[02:50] <theine> psusi, "help setup" inside the grub shell contains some useful information I guess
[02:50] <constantine-xvi> once again, can anyone tell me why modprobe is giving me a "operation not permitted" when i try to install ndiswrapper?
[02:50] <theine> constantine-xvi, try "sudo modprobe ..."
[02:50] <constantine-xvi> i have
[02:51] <bimberi> sudothis: rescue mode? there is "recovery mode" but that's part of the installed boot process (ie. no cd needed)
[02:51] <chcken> how do i make the java file executable
[02:51] <constantine-xvi> i also have the restricted-modules, etc.
[02:51] <theine> constantine-xvi, really? then maybe "dmesg | tail" tells you something more detailed
[02:52] <chcken> how do i make the java file executable
[02:52] <MarcN> ookami: you probably have a 'don't show hidden files' set in nautilus.
[02:52] <chcken> how do i make the java file executable
[02:52] <bimberi> !repeat
[02:52] <ubotu> repeat is, like, totally, Don't repeat your question every few minutes- if someone knows they will answer.
[02:52] <chcken> srry
[02:52] <constantine-xvi> [4296693.981000]      ACPI-0508: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.BAT1._BST]  (Node dbed7c60), AE_NOT_FOUND
[02:52] <constantine-xvi> [4296723.986000]      ACPI-0362: *** Error: Looking up [Z007]  in namespace, AE_NOT_FOUND
[02:52] <constantine-xvi> [4296723.986000]  search_node dbed7d60 start_node dbed7d60 return_node 00000000
[02:52] <constantine-xvi> [4296723.986000]      ACPI-0508: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.BAT1._BST]  (Node dbed7c60), AE_NOT_FOUND
[02:52] <constantine-xvi> [4296753.990000]      ACPI-0362: *** Error: Looking up [Z007]  in namespace, AE_NOT_FOUND
[02:52] <constantine-xvi> [4296753.990000]  search_node dbed7d60 start_node dbed7d60 return_node 00000000
[02:52] <constantine-xvi> [4296753.990000]      ACPI-0508: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.BAT1._BST]  (Node dbed7c60), AE_NOT_FOUND
[02:52] <constantine-xvi> [4296783.995000]      ACPI-0362: *** Error: Looking up [Z007]  in namespace, AE_NOT_FOUND
[02:52] <constantine-xvi> [4296783.995000]  search_node dbed7d60 start_node dbed7d60 return_node 00000000
[02:52] <constantine-xvi> [4296783.996000]      ACPI-0508: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.BAT1._BST]  (Node dbed7c60), AE_NOT_FOUND
[02:52] <theine> DOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:52] <Welly> easy, constantine-xvi!
[02:52] <gord_> try right clicking the java file chcken and set its permitions there
[02:52] <Ep|phany> hey can someone tell me how to install games with cebenga
[02:52] <nickrud> dumvid, de de dum, de dum.
[02:52] <bimberi> !paste
[02:52] <ubotu> it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:52] <Ep|phany> i mean cedega
[02:52] <chcken> gord_ok ty ill try
[02:53] <constantine-xvi> i apoligize
[02:53] <theine> constantine-xvi, that was "dmesg | tail"?? quite a few lines from that tail command...
[02:53] <duke3z> i was asking about cedega
[02:53] <constantine-xvi> correct
[02:53] <duke3z> can't get it to install
[02:53] <gord_> put the game cd in the drive epiphany and type cedega <install file.exe>, so like 'cedega /media/cdrom/setup.exe"
[02:53] <Welly> hey all, trying to install fastcgi and am getting this - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4335
[02:53] <nickrud> yup 10 lines :)
[02:54] <melodramatic> hi im running into a problem with ubuntu... i got an usb mp3 player.. first run went find accessing it... then i removed it to test the mp3 i put on it wanted to make change so i put it back in the usb plug.. then when i try to access it i get the following error (giving UDI is not a mountable device)
[02:54] <ookami> got it ! thanks everyone
[02:54] <constantine-xvi> am i totally screwed over?
[02:54] <theine> hmm, i was sure tail -n defaults to 5...
[02:55] <theine> but obviously i'm wrong
[02:55] <psusi> AHA!
[02:55] <psusi> had to tell grub the right geometry with the geometry command
[02:55] <psusi> now it sees partitions!
[02:55] <kbrosnan> I am looking for a set of directions to boot ubuntu from a floppy
[02:55] <theine> constantine-xvi, I never seen the error message you're getting when having root priviliges
[02:56] <chcken> gord_: ok i did that how should i go about installing it now
[02:56] <gord_> are you trying to install java itself?
[02:56] <constantine-xvi> theine: i'll re-run it to be sure, this time in #flood
[02:56] <chcken> ya i need to install java
[02:57] <melodramatic> do i need to completly reinstall ubuntu?
[02:57] <psusi> theine, ok... setup says it worked
[02:57] <theine> constantine-xvi, ok, shoot
[02:57] <gord_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76702 will guide you through installing java
[02:57] <constantine-xvi> theine: in #flood
[02:57] <theine> psusi, nice
[02:57] <psusi> theine, so now the stage 1 and 2 loaders should be set up right?  don't I need to edit my menu config now or something?
[02:57] <chcken> ty i will try that
[02:58] <theine> constantine-xvi, show me the modprobe message including the command
[02:58] <bimberi> Welly: you need to enable the multiverse repository
[02:58] <Welly> bimberi: yep.. just done that now.. thanks!
[02:58] <bimberi> Wellark: k :)
[02:58] <theine> psusi, better take a look at menu.lst and check whether everything seems fine...
[02:58] <constantine-xvi> theine: have posted in #flood
[02:59] <psusi> hrm... menu.lst should be in /boot/grub right?
[02:59] <Nihil85> hallo
[02:59] <theine> psusi, yes
[02:59] <walter> guys, having problem booting X. says screens not found
[02:59] <walter> =0
[02:59] <psusi> it's not there ;)
[02:59] <theine> constantine-xvi, how did you install ndiswrapper?
[02:59] <Melissa83> walter: You're going to have issues with it. Also make sure you're using a 64 build of ubuntu.
[02:59] <walter> i am
[03:00] <Melissa83> it's an issue w/ ATI chipsets
[03:00] <theine> psusi, try update-grub
[03:00] <Melissa83> walter: What worked for me was using the VESA drivers
[03:00] <constantine-xvi> compile, as shown on the ubuntu wiki
[03:00] <walter> vesa freezes me
[03:00] <theine> psusi, it generates one for you
[03:00] <Melissa83> walter: Plus my laptop is EXTREMELY sensitive as to screen resolution. Also, I'm told that the CVS of Xorg supports the ati chipsets, so i'm working on getting those.
[03:00] <walter> vga doesnt work either
[03:00] <constantine-xvi> theine: compile, as shown on the ubuntu wiki
[03:00] <psusi> kick ass
[03:00] <Inv_arp> just added xfce4, how do i make it default desktop?
[03:00] <walter> ive also tried lowest possible reso etc
[03:00] <walter> nothing works
[03:00] <walter> i am afraid i might just use another distro heh
[03:00] <theine> constantine-xvi, isn't ndiswrapper included in the restircted-modules package?
[03:00] <walter> others work fine
[03:00] <Melissa83> walter: lowest possible res does not necessarly mean it's a good choice
[03:00] <walter> well
[03:00] <Melissa83> walter: i HAVE to use 1280x768 NOTHING else works
[03:01] <psusi> ok... now ot add the magic kernel command line parameters
[03:01] <walter> ive used just about every reso my monitor can handle
[03:01] <Melissa83> walter: Also, try getting the latest CVS from xorg
[03:01] <theine> constantine-xvi, it fails because something went wrong during the compilation
[03:01] <Melissa83> Supposedly it works ootb
[03:01] <xbox_sky> Hi guys! sorry I just started to use ubuntu (like today) Im trying to get those w32 codecs, I've tried to do it trough synaptic (nothing on search except mime32) and nothing on the terminal either, im I doing something wrong ( remember im NEW)
[03:01] <Melissa83> walter: There are NO other distros that will work. SuSe doesn't work, Fedora doesn't work, NONE of them do
[03:02] <seth_k|lappy> xbox_sky, you'll need to add repositories from the PLF
[03:02] <seth_k|lappy> xbox_sky, you know how to add repos?
[03:02] <walter> actually, i installed mepis and it worked fine. so did gentoo
[03:02] <xbox_sky> seth, i've already done that
[03:02] <walter> =0
[03:02] <xbox_sky> seth, yup
[03:02] <yahya> xbox_sky: it's not there in the official repos
[03:02] <Melissa83> walter: It's because of the ATI chipset. You could try grabbing the ATI proprietary driver from ati's website
[03:02] <seth_k|lappy> oh, good. That's all you need then
[03:02] <seth_k|lappy> then just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[03:02] <seth_k|lappy> @ xbox_sky
[03:02] <Melissa83> walter: really? interesting. I was told X won't work with the ati junk (course that may just be my specific chipset)
[03:02] <theine> constantine-xvi, nevermind, i see there are appearently good reasons for compiling ndiswrapper under ubuntu...
[03:02] <xbox_sky> hold on m8
[03:02] <walter> the thing that gets me
[03:03] <walter> is on other distros, the same drivers i pick in ubuntu
[03:03] <walter> will work
[03:03] <psusi> hrm.. ok, menu.lst looks alright... wish me luck
[03:03] <walter> odd
[03:03] <gord_> iv got a rather old ati card n x has allways worked fine for me. they put the rage chips (what i use) in everythin too
[03:03] <_Dez> eveyone ever install fluxbox?
[03:03] <Phuzion> What is the command to rename a directory?
[03:03] <mustard5> ubotu: tell xbox_sky about w32codecs
[03:03] <_Dez> !fluxbox
[03:03] <ubotu> hmm... fluxbox is forked off blackbox and is found at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net, or the new blackbox, with antialias, better menu, etc.
[03:03] <Melissa83> gord_: I'm using the XPress 200M chipset. One of ATI's newest, it doesn't work
[03:04] <bimberi> Phuzion: mv
[03:04] <gord_> Phuzion: mv <old directory name> <new directory name>
[03:04] <Phuzion> No preceding /?
[03:04] <gord_> oh yea, new ati chipsets are an arse -_-
[03:04] <seth_k|lappy> Phuzion, it's implied
[03:04] <gord_> not unless you want to move it somewhere else
[03:04] <Phuzion> Alright, sweet, thanks.
[03:04] <seth_k|lappy> oh preceding
[03:04] <walter> why is it that my card has no problem in any other distros? even debian based
[03:04] <walter> makes no sense
[03:05] <nickrud> walter, you might try filing a bug, and possibly the problem could be tracked down
[03:06] <walter> ok
[03:06] <walter> i might take that route
[03:06] <chcken> gord_it said to do fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin and then it said fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[03:06] <Inv_arp> how does one change the default window manager?
[03:06] <mustard5> walter, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com just for your future reference if you need it :)
[03:06] <nickrud> heh
[03:07] <xbox_sky> LathropWells,Mustard5 and seth_k|lappy Thanks a lot guys for your help :)
[03:07] <chcken> gord_: it said to do fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin and then it said fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin
[03:07] <mustard5> xbox_sky, np
[03:07] <LathropWells> Windows users "linux community" - ;)
[03:07] <gord_> how do you meen 'said'?
[03:08] <blank> hey guys
[03:08] <chcken> gord_: when i typed that in terminal it said fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin command not found
[03:08] <blank> I just got a new drive for ubuntu (40 gigs)
[03:08] <blank> and I have another 40 gigs
[03:08] <wim> irc://irc.101-freedom.org/
[03:08] <blank> I've already set them up right
[03:08] <gord_> you will need to add the extra repositorys chcken
[03:08] <blank> but I'd like to install ubuntu on the second
[03:08] <chcken> gord_: how do i do that
[03:09] <blank> will the installation be the same?
[03:09] <mustard5> ubotu: tell chicken about repos
[03:09] <gord_> open up synaptic and goto the repositorys menu, click edit or settings or something like that and press the 'show disbaled sources' or somethin bout that
[03:09] <bimberi> Inv_arp: sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager
[03:09] <blank> mustard5: you forgot the ! in the front
[03:09] <gord_> then just press ok and check the boxes that have magically apeared
[03:09] <escanio> hi, how i can recover from a mbr crash in a dual installation?
[03:09] <blank> :)
[03:09] <escanio> LILO/GRUB?
[03:09] <mustard5> blank it worked :)
[03:09] <duke3z> dang it, i got to root in console and now cannot install cedega.  man thier instructions kinda stink.
[03:09] <gord_> you'll need to do "sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common" again
[03:09] <blank> o :D
[03:09] <mustard5> blank, it went to him as a PM
[03:10] <mustard5> blank, assuming he is registered
[03:10] <edoardo> hi gals, hi dudes : )
[03:10] <mustard5> welcome edoardo
[03:10] <bimberi> mustard5: nick typo tho (no i)
[03:10] <edoardo> you guys, i'm the author of an audio conversion script named audio-convert. you might have read about it in the ubuntu forums. anyway, it's becomin' really popular lately. would anyone help me make a .deb? it's two files only, so it's probably not that hard. anyone? thankyou! : )
[03:10] <Nihil85> hi guys, at this moment i have a lot of problems:i cannot run properly the "desktop bar" (the bar with the button view desktop, the list of programs running, etc), it refuses to start! I've also a lot of other problems, but mainly i wanted to solve this because now i cannot run two apps at the same time
[03:10] <mustard5> bimberi,
[03:10] <mustard5> bimberi, doh
[03:10] <mustard5> ubotu: tell chcken about repos
[03:11] <mustard5> ;)
[03:11] <chcken> gord_: is it the one in packages that says repositories
[03:11] <MarcN> anyone using amarok in dapper?  I tell it to 'Build Collection', but never seems to do it.
[03:11] <bimberi> mustard5: it's got me before too :)
[03:11] <Razor-X> edoardo: hmmm, what can the script do?
[03:11] <chcken> hey yall g2g watch suvivor yaya
[03:12] <Razor-X> edoardo: I do all my audio conversion by hand, so that script sounds interesting
[03:12] <nickrud> edoardo, the guys to ask about that are in #ubuntu-motu
[03:12] <mustard5> chcken, cya
[03:12] <edoardo> nickrud, thankyou dude! : )
[03:12] <nickrud> or Razor-X :)
[03:12] <Razor-X> :P
[03:12] <MarcN> chcken: survivor just ended here.  Wanna know who leaves? ;-)
[03:12] <Inv_arp> bimberi: thx
[03:12] <Razor-X> OMG, don't tell me... it's... Anakin Skywalker!
[03:12] <LathropWells> edoardo -i would look in debian.org or the linux documentation project. tldp.org
[03:12] <bimberi> Inv_arp: np :)
[03:12] <edoardo> Razor-X, here's the link: http://freshmeat.net/projects/audio-convert
[03:12] <gord_> edoardo: does your script do a lot of files at once? iv been meening to convert my mp3 collection to ogg for a long time but have been put off because the only auto things i can find don't copy over the ide info
[03:13] <Razor-X> ``I'm sorry to say Mr. Vader, but you've been kicked off the island''
[03:13] <Nihil85> hi guys, at this moment i have a lot of problems:i cannot run properly the "desktop bar" (the bar with the button view desktop, the list of programs running, etc), it refuses to start! I've also a lot of other problems, but mainly i wanted to solve this because now i cannot run two apps at the same time
[03:13] <Razor-X> girl in squeaky voice: ``I hated the way he choked me after I professed my love for him''
[03:13] <LathropWells> gord_ isn't there a dir2ogg script?
[03:13] <edoardo> gord_, it does that, very easily. it even copies the metatags on to the new files. follow the link and you'll find out! : )
[03:13] <Razor-X> sorry, couldn't resist, getting back on topic :)
[03:13] <jvai> lol
[03:13] <dreadnought> someone help me with downloading a java client
[03:14] <dreadnought> i no
[03:14] <psusi> woohoo, got it working!
[03:14] <Razor-X> uggghh, there's another problem
[03:14] <mhz> hi
[03:14] <gord_> iv no idea mr LathropWells, if i did id i wouldn't have a load of mp3s ;)
[03:14] <Razor-X> how would you get rxvt to copy to clipboard?
[03:14] <psusi> I actually didn't have the menu.lst quite right... it forgot about the initrd, and set the root device wrong
[03:14] <LathropWells> badcomputer.no-ip.com/linux/dir2ogg/dir2ogg.bot - <-- this is what i remember.
[03:14] <Razor-X> gord_: look at a few basic shell scripting tutorials and you've got yourself a script
[03:15] <psusi> but that's awesome that grub lets you edit the config during boot to fix that
[03:15] <mhz> Suddenly, my app. fonts look much bigger than they used to, on my laptop. Any ideas why?
[03:15] <jvai> java + ubuntu not probable
[03:15] <Razor-X> I have a script I use to convert all my FLACs to WAV in a similar fashion
[03:15] <Melissa83> how do i boot straight to console mode?
[03:15] <mustard5> Nihil85, have your gnome applets gone too?
[03:15] <dreadnought> bob2: u on?
[03:15] <mc|amb> could anyone correct this for me please::  sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xconf
[03:15] <LathropWells> dir2ogg.py
[03:15] <Razor-X> do I need xsel or xclip for rxvt to interface with the clipboard? :(
[03:15] <edoardo> well audio-convert is pretty cool. and it looks cool. and it does its job well and fast. *with* progress bars : )
[03:15] <meatwad65> dpkg-reconfigure
[03:15] <Razor-X> Melissa83: hmmm?
[03:15] <dreadnought> could some one give me the java link please
[03:15] <bimberi> ubotu tell dreadnought about java
[03:15] <gord_> i would Razor-x, but looking at shell scripting (what is it like modifyed perl?) after using python for so long is like poking myself in the eye with rusty forks
[03:16] <Nihil85> mustard5, gnome applets? i have "only" lost my desktop bar, but i don't know what are the gnome applets
[03:16] <Inv_arp> bimberi: i added xfce4 but i dont see it in the selection
[03:16] <dreadnought> thanks
[03:16] <Inv_arp> for update-alternatives --config x-window-manager
[03:16] <Razor-X> gord_: I've never used perl, and it doesen't take much to learn
[03:16] <cusco> cd irssi
[03:16] <Razor-X> if you use xSH often, that is
[03:16] <dreadnought> maybe it will work this time
[03:16] <meatwad65> i never used perl
[03:16] <LathropWells> edoardo - sounds good. -progrees bars are handy if you are converting dozens of files
[03:16] <meatwad65> last job learned most of it in 2 days
[03:16] <nickrud> Melissa83, delete S13gdm in /etc/rc2.d
[03:16] <Phuzion> How do I get a directory password protected by Apache?
[03:16] <gord_> don't take much time to learn howto poke yourself int he eye with rusty forks, don't meen you should do it though ;)
[03:17] <mustard5> Nihil85, well I'm not sure what it is you are describing, but I'm thinking you are talking about the bottom bar on your deskto that shows which apps are in the current workspace
[03:17] <nickrud> Melissa83, or better yet, rename it to K13gdm, so you can put it back when you want
[03:17] <meatwad65> i learn languages on necessity
[03:17] <Nihil85> mustard5, yes
[03:17] <Razor-X> gord_: I use pretty much the same syntax, it took me a bit of googling to learn the bits of shell scripting I need
[03:17] <mhz> mc|amb: dpkg-reconfigure
[03:17] <Razor-X> like when I wanted to craft a script to automaticall save screenshots to a specified filename
[03:17] <dreadnought> will someone walk me through it?
[03:17] <LathropWells> gord_ - are you familiar with zenity - add nicely drawn dialog boxes to any script.
[03:17] <Razor-X> *automatically
[03:17] <bimberi> Inv_arp: xfce may not be considered to be a "window manager" (although i get confused about those things).  See if it is in the Session menu of your login screen
[03:17] <_Dez> does ubuntu have gkrellm
[03:17] <dreadnought> i cant seem to find it in synaptic
[03:17] <Inv_arp> bimberi: k
[03:18] <mustard5> Nihil85, I believe its an applet called 'window list'
[03:18] <Nihil85> mustard5, but this is not the only problem... i'm going mad, i have an half dozen of problems
[03:18] <mc|amb> mhz, thanks
[03:18] <mhz> np
[03:18] <mustard5> Nihil85, do you have a bottom bar, but now apps show on the bottom bar?
[03:18] <gord_> its the actual code not the result that puts me off shell scripting, python is very powerfull too so i just use that when i need to
[03:18] <Nihil85> mustard5, so i have to run a terminal and load window list?
[03:19] <mustard5> Nihil85, no, you right click on the bottom bar in an empty spot somewhere and 'add applet'
[03:19] <meatwad65> anyone know how to get audio previews in nautilus to work?
[03:19] <mustard5> Nihil85, look for 'window list'
[03:19] <Nihil85> mustard5, yes. i have lost the "desktop button" (the button to show desktop) and even if i chrge an app, it doesn't show in the bar
[03:19] <dreadnought> uh how do you do it?
[03:20] <meatwad65> wine...i haven't used that in years
[03:20] <mustard5> Nihil85, I'm thinking that your gnome-applets are not working or the settings have gone wacky for some reason
[03:20] <Razor-X> meatwad65: I hear it's making leaps and bounds recently
[03:20] <mustard5> Nihil85, try what I suggested above anyway and tell me if it works
[03:20] <dreadnought> where is the Blackdown Java 1.4 installer
[03:20] <Nihil85> mustard5, i cannt find window list in the session manager
[03:20] <dabaR> how do I run something in a terminal, and then make it not close when I close the terminal?
[03:20] <Razor-X> hmmm, anyone here use xclip or xsel?
[03:20] <Nihil85> *system manager
[03:21] <mustard5> Nihil85, I didnt say sessin manager :)
[03:21] <nickrud> dabaR, disown
[03:21] <Razor-X> dabaR: foo &
[03:21] <wickedpuppy> dabaR, &
[03:21] <Razor-X> where foo is the name of a program
[03:21] <mustard5> Nihil85, no, you right click on the bottom bar in an empty spot somewhere and 'add applet'
[03:21] <dabaR> nope, that dies with the terminal. Answer: nohup appname&
[03:21] <gord_> meatwad65: it recently finally got its 'beta' status so i thought id give it another whirl
[03:21] <mustard5> Nihil85, 'add to panel' is the option soz
[03:21] <dreadnought> wowo comeon guys
[03:22] <nickrud> hm, I disown gedit all the time :)
[03:22] <dabaR> & is just run in background.
[03:22] <Razor-X> dabaR: yeah, exactly
[03:22] <ptlo> dabaR, nohup something &
[03:22] <Nihil85> mustard5, eheheh: what's its name in italian? there's no window list and no near meanings
[03:22] <Razor-X> i'ld help you better if you ran ZSH, but, I can't soo...
[03:22] <dabaR> nohup means dont hang up the program when I close the terminal.
[03:22] <meatwad65> gord: i heard the same thing
[03:22] <ptlo> oh, you've already answered that, sorry :/
[03:22] <mustard5> Nihil85, hehe..hmmmm..I don't know in italian :)
[03:22] <meatwad65> i just don't have much use anymore because not many apps i need
[03:22] <dreadnought> any admin free to help me?
[03:22] <Nihil85> mustard5, me too!
[03:23] <meatwad65> used to be all the apps i loved were windows only
[03:23] <dabaR> dreadnought: for what?
[03:23] <dreadnought> downloading damn java again
[03:23] <dreadnought> btw im mgdam
[03:23] <dabaR> dreadnought: and what is "admin" mean?
[03:23] <meatwad65> i actually wish i could have amarok on windows compared to itunes
[03:23] <dreadnought> diff name
[03:23] <dabaR> hi mgdam:)
[03:23] <wickedpuppy> dreadnought, blackdown is in repos ...
[03:23] <dreadnought> hi
[03:23] <Melissa83> heya mustard5! ^_^ Would you believe that i totally hosed X again last night?
[03:23] <dabaR> I installed java on your computer before:)
[03:24] <dreadnought> huh
[03:24] <gord_> yea i know, but i have a loooot of games sitting on my shelf that iv not played in years for not using windows ;)
[03:24] <dreadnought> stillll????
[03:24] <meatwad65> i don't think wine fixes taht
[03:24] <dabaR> still what?
[03:24] <mustard5> Melissa83, I can believe that :)  I am good at busting my box too ;)
[03:24] <meatwad65> you need cedega
[03:24] <mustard5> Melissa83, did you try installing ati?
[03:24] <meatwad65> or formerly winex
[03:24] <Melissa83> mustard5: Installing ATI is what hosed it, even after reloading back-ed up config it was shot
[03:24] <dabaR> dreadnought: what did you do so far, have you gotten the .deb file yet?
[03:25] <gord_> depends, its really come on latly. directX apis are being impliemtned a bit now
[03:25] <Nihil85> mustard5, ok, i've found it. the meaning is another... i had to try every apps!!!
[03:25] <dreadnought> dabaR: administration duh
[03:25] <gord_> n if the game is opengl then your pritty much set
[03:25] <Melissa83> mustard5: Finally got it up again, and changed something (think i was messing with network settings), and X was hosed again
[03:25] <dreadnought> uh i got to the site ubotu got me to
[03:25] <meatwad65> oh cool gord
[03:25] <dabaR> dreadnought: ya, but what do you need an administration person for installing Java...
[03:25] <meatwad65> directx is so evil :(
[03:25] <mustard5> Melissa83, yeah ati can be a bit of a headache.  I believe that is why nalioth was trying to encourage you to use VESA instead :)
[03:25] <dabaR> dreadnought: show me the output of cat /etc/issue
[03:25] <Melissa83> so i went through the install again, figured i would start fresh since i at least knew how to get X up again, but for some reason the isntall was hosed. Then i get home from work, and it works *boggle*
[03:25] <meatwad65> i just wish there was a decent cross platform api
[03:25] <dreadnought> theyre ususally were prolific in linux
[03:25] <gord_> specially what its doing to opengl in vista...
[03:25] <dreadnought> an=d they help
[03:25] <Nihil85> mustard5, the name I gave to the desktop area are lost. why?!?!?
[03:25] <meatwad65> yeah opengl is gonna be dead
[03:25] <mustard5> Nihil85, good work :)
[03:26] <yahya> how can I get a list of all packages from a particular repository?
[03:26] <meatwad65> all the vid cards are driven by directx more so than opengl now
[03:26] <mustard5> Nihil85, your workspace switcher probably got reset too, its an applet as well
[03:26] <gord_> allthough if they keep it up, i can hardly see the european courts standing for it.. the american ones might let it side though which is just as bad
[03:26] <dabaR> yahya: what repository? look in synaptic...
[03:26] <meatwad65> i had to buy a new vid card just to play battlefield 2
[03:26] <dreadnought> dabaR?
[03:26] <meatwad65> but if it was opengl i could have played it at least
[03:26] <dabaR> dreadnought: open a terminal, and type: cat /etc/issue, and tell me what that told you.
[03:27] <meatwad65> pixelshaders are just bad imo
[03:27] <yahya> dabaR: I just added a new repos.. I'm just curious and want to browse what's avilable there
[03:27] <mustard5> Nihil85, did you uninstall gnome-applets at some stage?
[03:27] <dreadnought> okkkkkkkk
[03:27] <gord_> nah, opengl is a specification so the card makers make their own drivers. much more preferable than hoping that there will be an ok directx implientattion
[03:27] <Nihil85> mustard5, no, i haven't
[03:27] <gord_> pixelshaders rock until you realise that your card can't do them -_-
[03:27] <dabaR> yahya: its a http site, maybe you can browse it on the web somewhere. What repository? is it a ubuntu one?
[03:27] <meatwad65> at least with opengl we have a shot at having gamlees playab
[03:28] <meatwad65> *playable
[03:28] <meatwad65> my laptop keyboard keeps messing up
[03:28] <yahya> dabaR:  no it's the PLF one, i couldnt' find a list on their site
[03:28] <gord_> sticky keys? i ain't sayin nothin...
[03:28] <dreadnought> i have hoary but here u go  mgdam@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/issue
[03:28] <dreadnought> Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l
[03:28] <dreadnought> mgdam@ubuntu:~$
[03:28] <dabaR> yahya: just enable only that repo, and reload your package list.
[03:28] <wickedpuppy> meatwad65, gord_ guys this chan is for ubuntu support ... pls go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:28] <meatwad65> oops
[03:29] <dabaR> dreadnought: no need to paste more than one line of that. Also, if you paste more than one line, please use the paste.ubuntulinux.nl site.
[03:29] <gord_> sorry :) mistake
[03:29] <dabaR> dreadnought: ok, thanks. now read what ubotu tells you, and get a java file from there.
[03:29] <dreadnought> wow ur a sweet kid ya know
[03:29] <duke3z> could some please send me a link to using sudo to install cedega 5.0?
[03:29] <yahya> dabaR: yeah i guess.. I was hoping there might be a more elegant command or something :P
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> duke3z, you bought cedega ?
[03:29] <duke3z> ya
[03:29] <Toma-> duke3z: is it the tar ball?
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> duke3z, call transgaming for support ?
[03:29] <duke3z> no .deb
[03:30] <duke3z> not yet
[03:30] <meatwad65> can't you just do sudo dpkg -i file.deb?
[03:30] <wickedpuppy> why not do so now ?
[03:30] <Toma-> duke3z: sudo dpkg -i cedega.blah.deb
[03:30] <dreadnought> how do i get the blackdown thing
[03:30] <duke3z> thank you Toma
[03:30] <BeGu> duke3z, how much did cedega cost?
[03:30] <wickedpuppy> next we be supporting for MS Office ....
[03:30] <duke3z> 5 bucks a month
[03:31] <BeGu> well that's not much
[03:31] <meatwad65> i used to pay for winex
[03:31] <Inv_arp> bimberi: ok just learned that xfwm4  (was in the listing) is actually xfce4,   xfce4 is the environment, xfwm4 is the wm for the xfce4 environment...  thx for your help
[03:31] <dabaR> dreadnought: get the one for hoary, please.
[03:31] <duke3z> and thankjs meatwad
[03:31] <Razor-X> ewww, xfwm
[03:31] <dreadnought> dabaR: HOW?
[03:31] <Razor-X> that sounds so much like xfvwm
[03:32] <Razor-X> that's name hell for ya
[03:32] <meatwad65> no problem duke3z good luck with cedega
[03:32] <dabaR> dreadnought: ubotu told you, read you rprivate messages.
[03:32] <Razor-X> errr, fvwm, mind you
[03:32] <dreadnought> last time i did this it was down
[03:32] <dreadnought> and it still is
[03:32] <Garrett> Good evening.
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> dreadnought, what was down ?
[03:33] <bimberi> Inv_arp: np, thanks feeding back -> into personal knowledgebase :)
[03:33] <Toma-> cedega 5.0 looks pretty nice. almost nice enough to buy
[03:33] <dreadnought> the link u always give me\
[03:33] <meatwad65> does anyone know what could cause my notebook keyboard to mess up?
[03:33] <duke3z> omg thanks so much it worked guys
[03:33] <wickedpuppy> dreadnought, the link is down? what link .... paste here
[03:33] <BeGu> is there going to be any problems with those SonyBMG's albums for ubuntu users?
[03:33] <Garrett> Have a GRUB/dual booting question for anyone that could help me.
[03:34] <meatwad65> it keeps either switching windows or going back in the sentence i'm typing and it messes everything up
[03:34] <dabaR> wickedpuppy: he wants to install java.
[03:34] <Razor-X> Garrett: shoot
[03:34] <meatwad65> like i'll be typing and it will just move the cursor somehow
[03:34] <MarcN> BeGu: I seriously doubt it.
[03:34] <gord_> the breezy customisation guide is down, maybe he meens that
[03:34] <wickedpuppy> dabaR, i know .. and i wanna know which link is down ... since all the links he got are from the bot
[03:34] <Razor-X> Garrett: I like to think of myself experienced with GRUB, only because I have most of the GRUB manual committed to memory :)
[03:35] <dabaR> wickedpuppy: !javadebs links are down.
[03:35] <dreadnought> paste what the link?
[03:35] <Garrett> Ubuntu is on IDE (hda1), Windows is on SATA (sda1).
[03:35] <MarcN> BeGu: a coworker had some 'unrippable CD' -- grip had no problem making some mp3s for him.
[03:35] <dreadnought> dabaR: http://giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[03:35] <Garrett> GRUB is only showing Ubuntu, so I'm trying to add Windoze to my menu.lst file.
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> as i said ... blackdown is in repo! if he wants blackdown ... just use synaptic
[03:35] <Razor-X> Garrett: I see
[03:35] <Garrett> ...and failing horribly.
[03:35] <psusi> this is the first time I've ever used grub, but I'm stoked as hell because I got it working on my sata fakeraid0 and it's awesome
[03:35] <jvai> bye a thinkpad
[03:36] <Garrett> The Windows portion of menu.lst reads as follows:
[03:36] <Garrett> title Windows
[03:36] <yahya>  meatwad65: are you sure it's not your touchpad?
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> Garrett, do not paste here
[03:36] <meatwad65> no i'm not sure
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> Garrett, pastebin pls
[03:36] <yahya> meatwad65: you might be clicking it accidentally
[03:36] <Razor-X> !pastebin
[03:36] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:36] <meatwad65> i'll turn it off while i'm typing i guess...you think there is some tap enabled in linux? or something
[03:37] <dreadnought> dabaR: wat u got for me?
[03:37] <meatwad65> its weird i never did that in windows but the linux drivers might have different functionality
[03:37] <bimberi> wickedpuppy, dabaR, dreadnought: i've checked on packages.ubuntu.com and blackdown java is only available for warty, breezy and dapper - go figure!
[03:37] <yahya> meatwad65: yeah, tap is enabled on my laptop
[03:37] <Garrett> Get that, Razor-X?
[03:37] <meatwad65> yeah what is the point of tap really?
[03:37] <_Dez> how do i delete DRivers??
[03:37] <Garrett> !pastebin
[03:37] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:38] <dabaR> dreadnought: my head hurts, i dont feel like it.
[03:38] <MarcN> _Dez: what are you really trying to do?
[03:38] <dabaR> wickedpuppy: if you can explain it step by step to dreadnought or send him a good wiki page, go ahead
[03:38] <iceman> Anyone able to help me learn about setting a web server in linux
[03:39] <dreadnought> dabaR: aughhhh linux is pissin me off damn windows bluescreenin on me!
[03:39] <dreadnought> hey wikedpupyy go for it!
[03:39] <jvai> linux blue screens??? whaaaaa!
[03:39] <thrush> iceman: apt-get install apache
[03:39] <Garrett> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4336 I guess.
[03:39] <dabaR> iceman: learn what? it ir really only an installation, in one line
[03:39] <MarcN> iceman: apt-get install apache2 apache2-doc
[03:39] <_Dez> MarcN im trying to remove fan.ko | thermal.ko
[03:40] <iceman> how to configure apache and how to set up sharing on a windows box
[03:40] <MarcN> _Dez: to remove them from use, sudo rmmod fan ; sudo rmmod thermal
[03:40] <dreadnought> not linux my hdd is 66% windows and 33% linux and my windows bluescreened
[03:40] <thrush> iceman: best bet might be to look at wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:40] <MarcN> _Dez: you man need to remove modules that depend upon them first.
[03:40] <iceman> got apach installed, but windows cant see the linux box
[03:40] <iceman> is the a vnc program for linux and Windows ?
[03:41] <MarcN> iceman: first check to see if the windows box can ping the linux box.  then try to telnet to port 80
[03:41] <_Dez> MarcN how do i do that
[03:41] <MarcN> iceman: there are vncserver and vncviewer for windows and for linux.
[03:41] <dabaR> iceman: see it how? can you ping from one machine to the other, are both on the internet?
[03:41] <iceman> Is there a way to VNC between Linux and Windows
[03:41] <Ep|phany> i have these keys that are supposed to adjust  my volume on my laptop is there anyway to enable them on linux?
[03:41] <Garrett> Did Razor-X fall off the face of the Inter-web?
[03:41] <dreadnought> where r u wickedpuppy?
[03:41] <iceman> both are on the net same ip
[03:42] <Razor-X> Garrett: no, i'm just a bit busy
[03:42] <dabaR> Garrett: no he was here a sec ago
[03:42] <Razor-X> and your link doesen't work, 's all
[03:42] <MarcN> _Dez: do sudo rmmod thermal   complain?  if so it will say what depends on it.
[03:42] <Garrett> Razor-X, no problem.
[03:42] <dabaR> iceman: do you use a router?
[03:42] <rain`> If I get a lot of "[4303450.849000]  scsi7 (0:0): rejecting I/O to dead device" and "[4303450.849000]  FAT: Directory bread(block 47) failed" does that mean I have a bad dvd on my hands?
[03:42] <Garrett> dabaR, thanks. :)
[03:42] <MarcN> iceman: two systems can't have the same ip at the same time.
[03:42] <dabaR> MarcN: :)
[03:43] <dreadnought> theyt can but there will be conflicts
[03:43] <dabaR> MarcN: on the *I*nternet
[03:43] <yahya> Ep|phany: yeah, go to Preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[03:44] <Razor-X> Garrett: here, i'm back
[03:44] <iceman> dabaR ok, i can run VNC from a wine install, and see the windows system, but windows cant find the linux vnc
[03:44] <dreadnought> wow dabar wheres ur wicked friend?
[03:44] <dabaR> dreadnought: what wicked friend?
[03:44] <Garrett> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4336 if you didn't recieve the direct message.
[03:44] <melodramatic> i have a 30gig hd wich partition should i choose to install ubuntu
[03:44] <Ep|phany> yaha is there any way to make so two keys combined do it
[03:44] <melodramatic> how should i partition it
[03:44] <dabaR> melodramatic: make a 10 gig partition for / and 20 for /home
[03:44] <MarcN> iceman: from windows,    vncviewer ip-of-linuxbox:1      vncserver on linux creates a virtual monitor that you connect to.
[03:45] <melodramatic> ok all ext2?
[03:45] <Razor-X> Garrett: I can see it pretty obviously, I think
[03:45] <dabaR> ext3
[03:45] <dreadnought> dabaR: u referred me to wickedpuppy where is he
[03:45] <Razor-X> Garrett: where's Windows located at, again?
[03:45] <melodramatic> ok
[03:45] <MarcN> iceman: vncserver on windows displays what is on the real monitor, vncserver on unix-like systems don't grab the monitor's image. There is a way, but not vncserver.
[03:45] <Garrett> sda1.
[03:45] <_Dez> MarcN i get ERROR: MOdule fan does not exist in /proc/modules | module thermal does not exist in /proc/modules
[03:46] <dabaR> dreadnought: he maybe left, and maybe he does not like helping people that do not help theselves, or a third option...
[03:46] <dabaR> dreadnought: read the wiki for java, try that
[03:46] <iceman> where can i get vncserver for linux and windows
[03:46] <MarcN> _Dez: use:    sudo lsmod   to get a list of what is currently loaded
[03:46] <Ep|phany> is there anyway i can find a keyboard model for my gateway laptop
[03:46] <iceman> and the viewer
[03:46] <iceman> for both
[03:46] <Ep|phany> because i have this 1 button i want to use but its not working
[03:46] <dreadnought> i dont help my self im a networkng expert im just not good with linux
[03:47] <MarcN> iceman: apt-cache search vncl
[03:47] <Razor-X> Garrett: different drives, I presume?
[03:47] <dabaR> dreadnought: good. Im just a litle headachish tonight, dont worry.
[03:47] <iceman> and for windows box ?
[03:47] <dreadnought> dabaR: i asked u hav to get black down and u referred me to the dead page remember
[03:47] <Garrett> Yes. Ubuntu is on IDE (hda)
[03:47] <Garrett> I also have another IDE drive, (hdb) with just storage.
[03:48] <dabaR> dreadnought: /j #dabaR if you want.
[03:48] <Razor-X> Garrett: try this
[03:48] <dreadnought> ok
[03:48] <Razor-X> Garrett: underneath the title line
[03:49] <Razor-X> Garrett: add two lines
[03:49] <Razor-X> first line:
[03:49] <iceman> what about vnc for windows
[03:49] <Razor-X> ``map (hd0) (hd1)''
[03:49] <MarcN> iceman: google vnc
[03:49] <Razor-X> ``map (hd1) (hd0)''
[03:49] <_native_> Razor-X: yo
[03:49] <iceman> but will the two be compatable
[03:49] <Razor-X> the rest should work out fine
[03:49] <Razor-X> _native_: hey
[03:50] <Razor-X> iceman: they use the same protocol, so yes, they're compatible
[03:50] <iceman> what about this ?
[03:50] <iceman> TightVNC
[03:50] <MarcN> iceman: all the same protocol.
[03:50] <iceman> http://www.tightvnc.org/download.html
[03:50] <Garrett> Razor-X: Will try, thanks.
[03:50] <MarcN> iceman: tightvnc, realvnc, vnc, all interoperate.
[03:50] <Razor-X> iceman: TightVNC is the same thing as VNC but with a bit better compression
[03:50] <_Dez> MarcN its not loaded b/c it wont load on boot
[03:51] <Garrett> Razor-X: Do I need to change rootnoverify (hd1,0) to (hd0,0)?
[03:51] <MarcN> _Dez: i thought you wanted to remove a driver module.
[03:51] <Razor-X> iceman: it interoperates with other VNCs, but in order to use the compressed form, server and client need to be tightvnc
[03:51] <iceman> just wanting the vnc part, and the how to set up apache ... and a mail server
[03:51] <Razor-X> Garrett: nope
[03:51] <Razor-X> iceman: a mail server... oooh
[03:51] <Garrett> Razor-X: Mmkay, be back shortly.
[03:51] <rain`> Anyone know of a better mdf image converter than mdf2iso? when I try to use mdf2iso, it says "File too large" ....
[03:52] <Razor-X> iceman: MTAs scare me, because they have such crappy documentation
[03:52] <Razor-X> rain`: you may try and emulate a Windows converter in WINE
[03:52] <Razor-X> MDF is a proprietary format (if i'm not mistaken), so I wouldn't find much headway on it
[03:53] <R0bNyc> whats the latest kernel ?
[03:53] <Razor-X> R0bNyc: www.kernel.org buddy :)
[03:53] <DrKritical> Does anyone know of any documentation for setting up a virtual email server in ubuntu (I have an mx record pointed at my ip)
[03:53] <arkanes> The Python packages for Ubuntu don't seem to contain the profile module, and I can't find another package that does, anyone have any pointers?
[03:53] <MarcN> DrKritical: what do you mean by virtual mail server?
[03:53] <Razor-X> DrKritical: if you want a real full-blown server, my suggestion is to read a *lot* of docs
[03:53] <R0bNyc> Razor-X, no in ubuntu lol
[03:54] <Razor-X> assuming you want an MTA
[03:54] <Razor-X> R0bNyc: oh :)
[03:54] <DrKritical> Nah, it's just for one email address
[03:54] <Razor-X> not quite sure, meself, check aptitude
[03:54] <DrKritical> my brother hosted his website from my box... www.alphaecho.co.nz
[03:54] <R0bNyc> Razor-X, u mean synaptic lol
[03:54] <Razor-X> DrKritical: are you going to do SMTP forwarding, or will it act as a mail server?
[03:54] <DrKritical> he wants the email to forward to him
[03:54] <Razor-X> R0bNyc: errr, apt, synaptic, aptitude, same difference
[03:54] <DrKritical> SMTP forwarding
[03:54] <Razor-X> DrKritical: ok, that wouldn't be too hard
[03:54] <jvai> he needs the ubuntu server install
[03:54] <dylan_> is the GNOME developer team working to reduce the processor and memory usage?
[03:55] <Razor-X> DrKritical: I use a similar setup using fetchmail and nbsmtp
[03:55] <DrKritical> Razor-X: Can you suggest a good program? mybe even one with a nice GUI :D
[03:55] <R0bNyc> lol
[03:55] <Razor-X> DrKritical: oh um... *cough*
[03:55] <MarcN> DrKritical: use a simple MTA and put a .forward file in ~brother/
[03:55] <iceman> how to reconfigure the VNC on the linux machine, the network only broadcast 127.0.0.1, but the linux part see's full network
[03:55] <Razor-X> DrKritical: I haven't seen much by the way of an MTA and GUI
[03:55] <DrKritical> .forward aye?... o... kay...
[03:55] <MarcN> iceman: what is the ip of the windows box and of the linux box?
[03:55] <Razor-X> DrKritical: I have an actual working setup if you want that
[03:56] <DrKritical> Razor-X: yes please!
[03:56] <megabyzus> test
[03:56] <bimberi> arkanes: the multiverse package "python-profiler" might be what you're after
[03:56] <iceman> linux box is like 192.168.0.205
[03:56] <Razor-X> DrKritical: is nbsmtp in the breezy repos?
[03:56] <shadeofgrey> guys i have a horrible peroblem
[03:56] <Razor-X> DrKritical: (I use hoary, and it isn't, so I compiled it)
[03:56] <MarcN> iceman: and the windows box?
[03:56] <DrKritical> Razor-X: one second
[03:56] <solidgroove> anyone succesfully compile kernel on 5.10?
[03:56] <megabyzus> simple question
[03:56] <iceman> windows is a complete different ip...
[03:56] <megabyzus> i added 'wine' thru synaptic
[03:57] <megabyzus> but I don't see it in the application list
[03:57] <MarcN> iceman: when you say 'ip' you mean ip address, right?
[03:57] <Garrett> Razor-X: No dice.
[03:57] <megabyzus> where is it?
[03:57] <iceman> linux finds the windows box, windows cannot find linux ... LOL
[03:57] <Razor-X> Garrett: ah :(
[03:57] <shadeofgrey> i removed my old version ofg foirefox and installed the newerst version using apt-get and somehow i screwed something up.  i no longer get the option to "Set image as Wallpaper" when i right click on images
[03:57] <iceman> yes the ip's
[03:57] <shadeofgrey> what the hell did i do and how the hell do i fix it?
[03:57] <pc22> fro windows. how do i telnet my ubuntu box
[03:57] <DrKritical> Razor-X: nah it's not... whats that for? I thought fetchmail was an smtp server?
[03:57] <rain`> Razor-X: thanks for the tip, but it turns out it was just a iso9660 format so I just loop mounted it
[03:57] <shadeofgrey> ill pay money to whomever helps me with this NOW
[03:57] <Garrett> Razor-X: Just spat out the Windows portion of menu.lst and stalled. HD LED lit up for probably...10 seconds.
[03:57] <shadeofgrey> and i mean it,
[03:57] <Razor-X> DrKritical: fetchmail fetches your mail
[03:57] <pc22> from windows. how do i telnet my ubuntu box
[03:57] <MarcN> iceman: are you sure the network is okay?
[03:57] <DrKritical> DrKritical: So it's a pop/imap client?
[03:57] <DrKritical> lol
[03:58] <MarcN> pc22: don't use telnet, use ssh (or putty on windows)
[03:58] <shadeofgrey> if i cant xchange my desktop wallpaper atleast three times a day ill lose my grip on reality
[03:58] <Razor-X> Garrett: mmmm
[03:58] <iceman> the "wine versions of vnc installed shows 127.0.0.1 for the linux box broadcast ip ... but how to set the ip in linux and wine to broadcast the correct ip
[03:58] <Razor-X> DrKritical: it's a severely limited MTA
[03:58] <Razor-X> Garrett: did you grub-install again?
[03:58] <shadeofgrey> .....and p.s. im almost out of painkillers....  so....  help SOON would be good
[03:58] <DrKritical> Razor-X: So fetchmail isn't really needed in what I want to do? I should be more concerned about nbsmtp?...
[03:58] <_Dez> MarcN when i boot up my pc it says Fatal eRror no device */acpi/fan.ko same with thermal
[03:58] <shadeofgrey> otherwise i might have a psychotic episofe
[03:58] <Razor-X> DrKritical: yeah, pretty much
[03:58] <robotgeek> has anyone been successful in getting postfix to relay to gmail?
[03:58] <Garrett> Razor-X: Come again?
[03:58] <Razor-X> DrKritical: fetchmail gets your mail, nbsmtp gives it
[03:58] <psusi> is there a flag to get dd to use O_DIRECT?
[03:58] <iceman> I know the network is ok, as i said linux can vnc connect to the windows system, but not windows to the linux box
[03:58] <MarcN> iceman: you have only one system and running windows in a wine box?
[03:59] <psusi> to bypass the buffer cache?
[03:59] <Garrett> Razor-X: Not familiar with what you're talking about.
[03:59] <bimberi> megabyzus: run it from the terminal - "wine freecell.exe" for example
[03:59] <Razor-X> Garrett: you should run ``grub-install /dev/path/to/first/master''
[03:59] <jvai> i fix'd forwarding mail thru gmail
[03:59] <Razor-X> Garrett: after editing the config
[03:59] <iceman> no two systems one LINUX / WINE ... Other is Windows XP
[03:59] <megabyzus> bimberi thanks
[03:59] <MarcN> _Dez: so the fan and thermal drivers can't find your hardware.  supported?  some module configuration file needed?
[03:59] <bimberi> megabyzus: yw :)
[03:59] <DrKritical> Razor-X: I'm a little concerned compiling my own software for an smtp server... because I couldn't be trusted to keep it updated... know of any other software packages that do the same job avaliable in repos?
[03:59] <Garrett> Razor-X: I feel stupid. :)
[03:59] <Ivo_Newbe> i have a simple question: in what site can I find a list of software/packages I can download and install?
[03:59] <megabyzus> but how can i add it to the intercae application list?
[03:59] <Razor-X> DrKritical: nbsmtp is real simple to setup, assuming you use mutt, a tad bit harder if you don't, but still simple
[03:59] <jvai> setting rechreiv to "none"
[04:00] <_Dez> MarcN my LAptop doesnt have ACPI
[04:00] <Ivo_Newbe> anyone can help me?
[04:00] <Garrett> Razor-X: Can I do this after I've rebooted?
[04:00] <Razor-X> DrKritical: yeah, I thought the same too, but nbsmtp really works for this purpose, it is the ``No-Brainer SMTP server'' :P
[04:00] <MarcN> iceman: you don't run vnc in a wine container on linux.  Use the linux native version of vncserver or vncviewer.
[04:00] <robotgeek> jvai: in postfix?
[04:00] <megabyzus> bimberi...are you still there?
[04:00] <bimberi> megabyzus: Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor
[04:00] <Razor-X> Garrett: do it while you're sitting in front of a booted machine, then reboot
[04:00] <gord_> Ivo_Newbe: if you open up synaptic you will get a list with information about each package
[04:00] <bimberi> megabyzus: yeah, just slow :)
[04:00] <Garrett> Mmkay.
[04:00] <ksmurf> hello all.  Can anyone shed some light on Hibernate to disk? I have an acer laptop that seems to hibernate to swap but not resume.  any ideas?
[04:00] <iceman> can i apt-get those vnc parts
[04:00] <MarcN> _Dez: perhaps that is the problem.
[04:01] <Hex1> how do you make Breezy remember your DNS settings, intead of continuously resetting to 10.1.1.1 ?
[04:01] <Ivo_Newbe> synaptic?? what is it?
[04:01] <R0bNyc> Razor-X, quick question in synaptic i searched for kernel ... and i see linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 and linux-image-2.6.12-9-686-smp (i want to try those 2) on the latest version says 2.6.12-9-.23 then i go down a lil more and it shows linux-image-686 and linux-image-686-smp (With no #'s ) but then where it says latest version says 2.6.12.16 .. im confused there
[04:01] <MarcN> ksmurf: did you add the appropriate stuff to grub so you can return from hibernate?
[04:01] <_Dez> MarcN i dont want it tto try to load them at all.
[04:01] <robotgeek> Razor-X: so, nbsmtp is easier to configure than postfix (for gmail stuff) ?
[04:01] <megabyzus> bimberi...wow it's crwoed here...can we talk directly?
[04:01] <gord_> Ivo_Newbe: system -> administraion -> synaptic in breezy badger
[04:01] <ksmurf> MarcN  and that would be what? I am quite the noob at laptops
[04:01] <Razor-X> R0bNyc: the one with numbers isn't the default kernel, the one without numbers is
[04:01] <bimberi> megabyzus: ok
[04:01] <Razor-X> robotgeek: much simpler
[04:01] <MarcN> _Dez: they aren't getting successfully loaded.  doesn't cause a problem,  just the message on boot, right?
[04:02] <robotgeek> Razor-X: i've spent the whole day on postfix, it almost works :)
[04:02] <megabyzus> ok...i'm dumb...how do you do that (chat direct)
[04:02] <R0bNyc> Razor-X, but it shows linux-image-2.6.9-386 and linux-image-386 installed already
[04:02] <Razor-X> robotgeek: that's as far as I got, till a friendly sysadmin told me about nbsmtp
[04:02] <_Dez> yeah MarcN it takes like 30seconds just to display the error so it can finish booting
[04:02] <bimberi> megabyzus: you have to register your nick and be identified first
[04:02] <za> woot got it running
[04:03] <za> anyone know how i can install winrar
[04:03] <Razor-X> R0bNyc: get both then, just in case, but 686 is basically the i686 processor, P4's and later mobile Pentium processors fall under that
[04:03] <robotgeek> Razor-X: hmm, it fails on some verfication stuff
[04:03] <Ivo_Newbe> thank you
[04:03] <MarcN> ksmurf:  I added this to the kernel line in grub's menu.lst;   resume=/dev/hda5    where hda5 is my swap partition
[04:03] <Razor-X> R0bNyc: SMP is multiple processor
[04:03] <za> it gives me instructions but im not sure if im suppose to enter them in word for word
[04:03] <Razor-X> robyeah, you need tls crap
[04:03] <bimberi> megabyzus: keep it in the channel, hopefully your irc client highlights when your nick is used
[04:03] <Razor-X> errr
[04:03] <phoenixp3k> Hello!
[04:03] <psusi> za: you don't... winrar is a windows program... there are linux archivers that understand the rar format thoguh
[04:03] <Razor-X> robotgeek: you need tls crap
[04:03] <megabyzus> bimberi i'm trying direct client to client
[04:03] <ksmurf> MarcN thanks
[04:03] <iceman> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/multiverse Sources
[04:03] <iceman> Ign http://wine.sourceforge.net source/ Sources
[04:03] <iceman> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Sources
[04:03] <iceman> Get:6 http://wine.sourceforge.net binary/ Packages [1083B] 
[04:03] <iceman> Get:7 http://wine.sourceforge.net source/ Sources [712B] 
[04:03] <iceman> 99% [Waiting for headers] 
[04:03] <R0bNyc> Razor-X, yea i know i have  prescott p4 w/ HT so thats why I use the SMP 1.. but I wanted to see how the 686 works w/o SMP...
[04:03] <Razor-X> iceman: no!
[04:03] <iceman> w t f that locked up
[04:03] <Razor-X> iceman: in pastebin
[04:03] <Razor-X> !pastebin
[04:03] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:03] <megabyzus> ahhh fergitit
[04:03] <R0bNyc> Razor-X, get both of which the one's with #'s or the others ?
[04:03] <robotgeek> Razor-X: i know, that's what's bugging me!
[04:03] <iceman> i ment to put in flood
[04:03] <za> well at rarlab.com you can download the command line only version of winrar for linux
[04:03] <phoenixp3k> can someone guide me to enable an ISA sound card. The wiki guide isnt much help
[04:04] <megabyzus> bimberi let's just stay here
[04:04] <Razor-X> R0bNyc: you can try it out, just change the booted kernel in GRUB
[04:04] <robotgeek> za: unrar-nonfree
[04:04] <MarcN> _Dez: are you sure that that is what is slowing down?  could be the next thing starting up.  You could muck around in /etc/mod* to remove them.  Been a while since i needed to mess with module configuraiton
[04:04] <bimberi> megabyzus: k :)
[04:04] <za> a website robot?
[04:04] <megabyzus> bimberi so when i go the menu editor how do i find 'wine'?
[04:04] <Razor-X> R0bNyc: or get them using apt-get/synaptic/aptitude, I suggest both
[04:04] <Razor-X> robotgeek: go and compile nbsmtp
[04:04] <robotgeek> za: no,it's in the repos. apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[04:04] <Razor-X> robotgeek: it takes mere seconds to compie on a clunker like this
[04:04] <R0bNyc> Razor-X, get them both with and without the #'s ?
[04:04] <bimberi> megabyzus: no, you need to add it there, wine doesn't add an entry when it's installed
[04:04] <Razor-X> robotgeek: it's extremely small, meant for high-load servers
[04:04] <Razor-X> R0bNyc: yeah
[04:04] <za> oh ok
[04:04] <robotgeek> Razor-X: hmm, okay...going there now!
[04:05] <Razor-X> robotgeek: i'ld give you a hoary deb, but most people don't use hoary yet
[04:05] <megabyzus> bimberi  so i assume i have to 'create a new entry' in the ditor right?
[04:05] <Razor-X> *anymore
[04:05] <R0bNyc> Razor-X, alrightt hanks .. btw ubuntu updates grub for me i hope
[04:05] <phoenixp3k> At least a hint on how to configure ALSA ^
[04:05] <Razor-X> R0bNyc: if you get it from apt/aptitude/synaptic, then yes
[04:05] <Razor-X> but GRUB shouldn't be a problem
[04:05] <za> apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[04:05] <bimberi> megabyzus: yes
[04:05] <psusi> grub doesn't get updated
[04:05] <za> i get a error
[04:05] <Garrett> Razor-X: When I do the "grub-install" it spits out hd0 as /dev/hda and hd1 as /dev/hdb.
[04:05] <robotgeek> Razor-X: no problem, i have no issues compiling
[04:05] <MarcN>  Razor-X: most are on hoary?  I'm on dapper :-)
[04:05] <psusi> it isn't being maintained anymore
[04:06] <Garrett> No mention about sda1 (which I'm trying to boot to.
[04:06] <za> says couldnt open lock file
[04:06] <za> i sould be typing that in the terminal correct Robotgeek?
[04:06] <Razor-X> Garrett: i'm thinking that hdb is your sda1
[04:06] <megabyzus> bimberi so wehn I go there I have to find the wine 'command'
[04:06] <dooglus> za: put "sudo " in front of it
[04:06] <megabyzus> bimberi where is it in the file system?
[04:07] <Garrett> "fdisk -l" spits out hdb as it should be, and sda as it should be with all partitions.
[04:07] <robotgeek> Razor-X: damn, the source file is not downloadable, 500 error!
[04:07] <za> what is sudo do dooglus?
[04:07] <shadeofgrey> guys
[04:07] <Razor-X> Garrett: oh... hmmm
[04:07] <dooglus> za: it runs stuff as root
[04:07] <shadeofgrey> seriously i need help with this
[04:07] <Razor-X> Garrett: so you have three disks?
[04:07] <bimberi> megabyzus: /usr/bin/wine
[04:07] <Garrett> Yes.
[04:07] <shadeofgrey> i broke firefox somehow
[04:07] <psusi> Garrett, you have both an ide and a scsi drive?
[04:07] <za> if im root though shouldnt it automatically do that?
[04:07] <robotgeek> Razor-X: other mirror worked
[04:07] <Garrett> Two IDE, one SATA.
[04:07] <za> and it says it cant find the package
[04:07] <za> couldnt find unrar-nonfree
[04:08] <psusi> Garrett, ok... edit your /boot/grub/devices.map
[04:08] <bimberi> megabyzus: you also need to specify what program you're going to run so -  /usr/bin/wine /path/to/program.exe
[04:08] <Razor-X> Garrett: try this
[04:08] <dooglus> za: the packages is called 'unrar-nonfree' and it's in the multiverse repository.
[04:08] <psusi> Garrett, your bios can boot from the scsi drive right?
[04:08] <Razor-X> Garrett: open a terminal, type ``grub''
[04:08] <megabyzus> bimberi is that all in the same line in the 'browse box'?
[04:08] <robotgeek> za: yup
[04:09] <psusi> Garrett, as long as it can, you should be able to edit your /boot/grub/devices/map and point (hd0) to /dev/sda
[04:09] <za> yeah i typed 'sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree'
[04:09] <za> said no package named unrar-nonfree existed
[04:09] <Razor-X> Garrett: and hit ``root (hd'' and hit enter
[04:09] <dooglus> za: you need to enable the multiverse repo
[04:09] <Razor-X> Garrett: to see if /dev/sda is already mapped to anything
[04:09] <phoenixp3k> Need help on how to activate a ISA sound card. Wiki is not helping...
[04:09] <bimberi> megabyzus: no, just cancel out of the browser and type it directly into the command field
[04:09] <Razor-X> Garrett: put the output in pastebin
[04:09] <za> heh im pretty noob, exactly how do i do that ;\
[04:09] <dooglus> !repos
[04:10] <ubotu> I guess repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:10] <ubuntuking> hello all
[04:10] <Razor-X> robotgeek: compiled?
[04:10] <megabyzus> bimberi ok...just so that i'm a totla pain in the ass...where do i find the icon for wine?
[04:10] <za> dooglus: event not found
[04:10] <bimberi> megabyzus: sec...
[04:10] <robotgeek> Razor-X: on it, was checking out the options
[04:10] <Garrett> Razor-X: What am I typing in again to grub? "root hd(" output something about the FS being FAT.
[04:10] <dooglus> za: when I typed "!repos" here, the bot saw it, and responded with the text you need to read
[04:10] <robotgeek> Razor-X: yup, done
[04:11] <dooglus> za: see what ubotu said?
[04:11] <Razor-X> robotgeek: yes, make sure you have libssl dev libs in order to compile with tls support
[04:11] <psusi> Garrett, what is the line in /boot/grub/devices.map that starts with (hd0)?
[04:11] <robotgeek> Razor-X: yeah, have them
[04:11] <za> k
[04:11] <Razor-X> Garrett: ``root (hd''
[04:12] <phoenixp3k> Oh. well...
[04:12] <Razor-X> robotgeek: then take a look at ./configure --help, should have only one option :)
[04:12] <phoenixp3k> guess I Ll have to live without sound
[04:12] <za> dooglus:  i should be the root, but why do i have to type sudo before apt-get?  did i do something wrong during the install or forget some kind of permission
[04:12] <phoenixp3k> ... of music...
[04:12] <Garrett> psusi: (hd0)	/dev/hda
[04:12] <bimberi> megabyzus: i can't find one that was installed, just select something appropriate from /usr/share/pixmaps for now
[04:12] <psusi> za, no... root is root, you are you
[04:12] <dabaR> za: ya, you should not be the root.
[04:12] <robotgeek> Razor-X: yeah, compiled -> checkinstalled also :)
[04:12] <Razor-X> za: you shouldn't be root, unlike windows, you don't have total control of your machine
[04:12] <za> ahh ok
[04:13] <psusi> Garrett, that's the problem... point it to /dev/sda if that's the drive you want to boot from
[04:13] <dabaR> Razor-X: lol
[04:13] <Razor-X> robotgeek: nice, let's make a wiki entry later with a breezy and hoary deb :)
[04:13] <nebular> I'm trying to share a printer via samba, but I don't seem to have a printcap file. How do I generate one?
[04:13] <megabyzus> bimberi..stand by
[04:13] <Razor-X> za: because Linux gives root true power
[04:13] <dabaR> !rootsudo
[04:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:13] <Garrett> Razor-X: Outputs the filesystem is fat.
[04:13] <robotgeek> Razor-X: i have the ppc deb :)
[04:13] <za> so couldnt any user just do sudo then
[04:13] <Razor-X> robotgeek: oh :P
[04:13] <za> i mean thats like any user having the power root has
[04:13] <dabaR> za no only those in the admin group, the first user is by default.
[04:13] <za> k
[04:13] <Garrett> Razor-X: BRB
[04:13] <Razor-X> za: they need the root password also
[04:14] <Garrett> psusi: BRB
[04:14] <za> oh yeah
[04:14] <dabaR> Razor-X: no they dont.
[04:14] <Razor-X> robotgeek: now, you use mutt?
[04:14] <Razor-X> dabaR: oh, woops, my bad
[04:14] <psusi> Razor-X, by default ubuntu configures duto to require YOUR password, root has none
[04:14] <Razor-X> yeah, I realized my mistake
[04:14] <dabaR> Razor-X: only have to be in admin group, and they get it with grant.
[04:14] <psusi> myself, I just set it to not ask for any password
[04:14] <psusi> s/duto/sudo
[04:14] <dabaR> za: only one use with sudo is fine.
[04:14] <megabyzus> bi,kberi...i've added wine the menu
[04:14] <megabyzus> when i click on it nothing happens
[04:15] <robotgeek> Razor-X: yeah, i need to configure gmail for sending mutt
[04:15] <Razor-X> robotgeek: open up your .muttrc
[04:15] <dreadnought> hey!
[04:15] <robotgeek> Razor-X: fetchmail already dumps gmail to my system
[04:15] <robotgeek> Razor-X: kk, next lines please :)
[04:15] <Nihil85> mustard5, private
[04:15] <megabyzus> just to confirm i have /usr/bin/wine /path/to/program.exe in the text box next to 'browse'
[04:16] <megabyzus> bimberi there is a space between /wine and /path
[04:16] <Razor-X> robotgeek: and type in ``set sendmail="/usr/local/bin/nmsmtp -D -f username@domain.com -M -p -U username -P password -s -h smtp.gmail.com"''
[04:16] <bimberi> megabyzus: yes
[04:17] <Razor-X> errr
[04:17] <robotgeek> Razor-X: damn, i downloaded nbsmtp :)
[04:17] <Toran> when are you guys planning on releaseing the latest version of xchat to the repositories?
[04:17] <megabyzus> well when i click on 'wine' on the menu nothing happens....
[04:17] <Razor-X> robotgeek: I added one little typo
[04:17] <za> dooglus:  do you play any games?
[04:17] <iceman> ok, how to install from a RPM file
[04:17] <Razor-X> robotgeek: and type in ``set sendmail="/usr/local/bin/nbsmtp -D -f username@domain.com -M -p -U username -P password -s -h smtp.gmail.com"''
[04:17] <Razor-X> yeah, meh :P
[04:17] <Razor-X> and one more thing!
[04:17] <dabaR> iceman: why are you installing an rpm
[04:17] <Razor-X> not ``-p'' but ``-p''
[04:17] <Razor-X> errr!
[04:17] <bimberi> megabyzus: did you literally type "/path/to/program.exe"
[04:17] <bimberi> ?
[04:17] <Razor-X> not ``-p'' but ``p''
[04:17] <[linner] > hello :)
[04:17] <Razor-X> hahaha, sorry
[04:18] <Razor-X> finally should be
[04:18] <megabyzus> bimberi: yes
[04:18] <megabyzus> bimberi; without the quotes though
[04:18] <iceman> dabaR only version of tightvnc for linux was a rpb
[04:18] <[linner] > tritium:  hello :) :) :)
[04:18] <iceman> rpm
[04:18] <Razor-X> ``set sendmail="/usr/local/bin/nbsmtp -D -f username@domain.com -M p -U username -P password -s -h smtp.gmail.com"''
[04:18] <za> anyone plays games throuhg linux... if so, do you use WINE?
[04:18] <robotgeek> Razor-X: done, now checking
[04:19] <dooglus> za: you don't need to log in as root - in fact it's discouraged, especially for n00bs
[04:19] <Razor-X> za: I play mostly Linux only games
[04:19] <MarcN> za: games are for lusers
[04:19] <bimberi> megabyzus: yeah no quotes, but that is supposed to be replaced by the path to wherever the windows program you want to run is located
[04:19] <za> lol
[04:19] <robotgeek> Razor-X: i got the p, so lemme retry
[04:19] <Razor-X> Tetris, TuxRacer, NetHack, etc.
[04:19] <za> well i play games =[
[04:19] <dooglus> za: I don't play a lot of games, no.  I play DROD occasionally, and recently played GTA San Andreas and Fahrenheit - Indigo Child
[04:19] <dreadnought> DABAR!
[04:19] <BeGu> what is DROD?
[04:19] <Razor-X> of course, my real gaming is done on console (where I think it's best)
[04:19] <za> does linux suppot OpenGL?
[04:19] <za> or no
[04:19] <MarcN> Za: just teasing.  I play worm
[04:19] <megabyzus> bimberi...LOL...i think i understand what you're saying....
[04:19] <dabaR> iceman: sudo aptitude install tightvncserver
[04:19] <bimberi> megabyzus: an example might be /home/bimberi/windows/solitaire.exe
[04:19] <dooglus> BeGu: Deadly Rooms Of Death -- drod.net
[04:19] <Razor-X> but, how much time would I have to game with two AP classes, and the rest honors classes? :P
[04:20] <Sir_Reality> is something screwy going on in the apt repositories? everything is marked as newly upgraded
[04:20] <za> i play WoW and stuff
[04:20] <megabyzus> bimberi so wine NEEDS a particular program to run?  It can't just start emulation and you can kickoff windows program within it?
[04:20] <[linner] > does anyone know what causes Ubuntu to think that a critical temperature has been reached ... even though its a cool as a cucumber????
[04:20] <gord_> linux supports open gl za, you'll have a hard time getting wow to run though
[04:20] <rain`> IDDQD
[04:20] <dooglus> za: I installed everquest yesterday - but it told me it was going to take 4 hours to download the patches, so I left the PC to it.
[04:20] <bimberi> megabyzus: wine doesn't run as a standalone program itself - it allows you to run windows programs
[04:20] <gord_> apprently older versions of wow run, but not the latest patches
[04:20] <Davey__> if you want VNC in Ubuntu, it has a VNC Server built in
[04:20] <bimberi> megabyzus: yep, you got it just as i hit the return key :)
[04:20] <Razor-X> if I want to play Morrowind, I simply boot into Windows
[04:20] <megabyzus> bimberi....I get it....thnak you for your time.
[04:21] <dooglus> Davey__: it does?  how do you run it?
[04:21] <megabyzus> bimberi you have been very patient with me
[04:21] <bimberi> megabyzus: np :)
[04:21] <megabyzus> BYE
[04:21] <_native_> is tightVNC available?
[04:21] <Razor-X> that and my dad's rage are the only reasons it still exists on this box :P
[04:21] <dreadnought> wow u all suck
[04:21] <dabaR> Davey__: he does not even know the IP, he thinks its the same as windows...
[04:21] <bimberi> megabyzus: cya
[04:21] <za> lol dooglus
[04:21] <megabyzus> quit
[04:21] <Davey__> dooglus, System > Preferences > Remote Desktop
[04:21] <za> gord: you can run wow in ogl and directx cant you
[04:21] <_native_> or a better question whats the most secure/best way to do VNC?
[04:21] <Razor-X> I know I suck, I mean I like my soft drinks with straws, after all :)
[04:21] <Davey__> dooglus, its per user
[04:22] <SEJeff> _native_: NX
[04:22] <za> a kid at school who runs fedora advised against running WINE to play games
[04:22] <Razor-X> _native_: if you want secure, you want X forwarding tunneled through SSH
[04:22] <SEJeff> _native_: Faster than vnc and tunneled through ssh
[04:22] <Razor-X> za: how old was that kid? :P I'll probably match him
[04:22] <za> i think about my age
[04:22] <za> 20-21ish
[04:22] <bimberi> _native_: yep, FreeNX - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[04:22] <gord_> yea you can, which is why you can run older versions though wine, but the latests versions are dodgy. its best to check the compatibility list on the wine site http;//www.winehq.org i think
[04:22] <_native_> i do ssh with X forwarding now. so....
[04:22] <[linner] > or.... what causes hanging when booting????
[04:22] <Razor-X> za: WINE is the de facto free windows emulator
[04:22] <_native_> guess im on the right track.
[04:22] <za> yeah, is it shitty or something?
[04:22] <_native_> ;] 
[04:22] <Razor-X> _native_: FreeNX is a bitch to setup, I hear
[04:22] <guilherme> what better media player for ubuntu? totem is vey restricted!
[04:22] <gord_> there is nothing wrong with using wine to play games, its just that you might have a hard time getting them to work. lots do though
[04:23] <dabaR> guilherme: yes
[04:23] <za> ahhh ok goird
[04:23] <Razor-X> guilherme: I prefer mplayer, personally
[04:23] <MarcN> SEJeff: freenx you mean? is it OSS?
[04:23] <gord_> anything that is directx only is basicaly a no no without cadega though
[04:23] <Razor-X> MarcN: *Free*NX :)
[04:23] <_native_> Razor-X:  yeah i tried it a while back a just said screw it.
[04:23] <Razor-X> I'm thinking that implies free as in libre
[04:23] <bimberi> Razor-X: seveas has put together some breezy packages which make it fairly straightforward
[04:23] <MarcN> Razor-X: not in ubuntu it seems
[04:24] <Razor-X> bimberi: crazy, Seveas has some mad time on his hands
[04:24] <guilherme> Razor-X: The name is 'mplayer' ? (will look at repositories)
[04:24] <bimberi> Razor-X: :)
[04:24] <Razor-X> guilherme: mmmhmmm
[04:24] <_native_> who's a fluxer in here?
[04:24] <guilherme> i'll try.. thanks
[04:24] <Razor-X> _native_: not me, I take a healthy dose of ratpoison :P
[04:24] <SEJeff> MarcN: Yes, it is. I meant NX as a protocol. freenx is the oss server
[04:24] <[linner] > SEJeff:  remember me? :)
[04:25] <_native_> Razor-X: i know you where pimpin you slick sever ideas the other day. ;-] 
[04:25] <SEJeff> [linner] , yeah
[04:25] <MarcN> SEJeff: hmm, no one packaged it for debian/ubuntu it seams.
[04:25] <psusi> hey, SEJeff !
[04:25] <Parkway> Would anyone know if, with the new distro, a wireless USB adapter is possible?
[04:25] <MarcN> seems
[04:25] <_native_> *server
[04:25] <jvai> i use feather linux.. if that flux ebuff lol
[04:25] <Razor-X> _native_: hmmm, how did they get received by #ubuntu-server and #ubuntu-instant ?
[04:25] <psusi> SEJeff: got grub working... it seems that it accepts the device (hd0,4) syntax, but it isn't correct... just had to drop that command and give it a geometry command instead
[04:25] <Garrett> Razor-X: Still around?
[04:25] <[linner] > SEJeff:  well... i loaded ubuntu... and got all the way til it told me that my video card was wrong.... tried to reboot and now it's hanging all over the place...
[04:25] <za> man i love linux
[04:25] <jvai> thinkpad keyboards
[04:25] <Razor-X> Garrett: yeahp
[04:25] <robotgeek> Razor-X: mutt says Error. Child exited
[04:25] <za> i dont think i could go back to windows
[04:25] <_native_> Razor-X: i dont know i have'nt been in those channels for while.
[04:25] <[linner] > SEJeff:  did you do anything special to get your lappys to run?
[04:26] <SEJeff> psusi: Thats ugly, but it works now. Thats what matters
[04:26] <Razor-X> ugghh, the last 16 MB andI'm downloading at 7.1 k/s
[04:26] <Xlylith> Hi all, does anyone know how to fix incorrect version of packages retrieved by my synaptic
[04:26] <SEJeff> [linner] : Installed it :-)
[04:26] <Garrett> Razor-X: We've made some progress, hah. It now spits out "GRUB loading stage2" and freezes.
[04:26] <Razor-X> on me torrent, rather
[04:26] <[linner] > SEJeff:  huh?
[04:26] <[linner] > SEJeff:  I did try to install it...
[04:26] <SEJeff> [linner] : nothing special. Ubuntu just worked for me
[04:26] <psusi> SEJeff: yea... wasn't nearly as ugly as getting lilo to work though, for that I had to patch the source and use all kinds of ugly commands in lilo.conf
[04:26] <[linner] > SEJeff:  bummer....
[04:26] <Razor-X> robotgeek: ok, try this, in mutt, fcc your mail to a file
[04:26] <dooglus> Davey__: thanks.  I've been manually launching x11vnc until now.  I didn't realise there was a built in server.
[04:26] <[linner] > SEJeff:  i mean good for you... bad for me
[04:27] <SEJeff> [linner] : File a bug, it will lead to it getting fixed faster
[04:27] <psusi> grub just needed to be told to use /dev/mapper/via_hfciifae for hd0 instead of /dev/hda, and the geometry since it didn't detect it right for some reason
[04:27] <[linner] > SEJeff:  thanks...
[04:27] <Davey__> dooglus, :)
[04:27] <psusi> I've never used grub before but already I love it
[04:27] <[linner] > SEJeff:  i think i'm just going to try to just reinstall it first
[04:27] <dooglus> Davey__: just one concern - where does it save my password?
[04:27] <Xlylith> Hi all, does anyone know how to fix incorrect version of packages retrieved by my synaptic
[04:27] <Davey__> dooglus, no idea, LOL
[04:28] <SEJeff> _native_: You might add: 'deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas freenx' to your sources.list and then apt-get freenx. Makes it pretty easy thanks to Seveas
[04:28] <psusi> and they told me I COULDN'T get ubuntu working on a hardware fakeraid raid 0... hah... never tell me I can't do something
[04:28] <robotgeek> Razor-X: hmm, how would i Fcc to a file?
[04:28] <MarcN> dooglus: the vncpassword is not the same as your user password.  it is stored in ~/.vnc/passwd
[04:28] <Razor-X> robotgeek: add a filename to the FCC field, of course :P
[04:28] <SEJeff> psusi: Define they
[04:28] <Ep|phany> anyone know how to run tightvnc?
[04:28] <benkong2> anyone got a good site for installing enlightenment on breezy? I can't get the soulmachine.net/ unstable to work. apt-get says Ign when I do apt-get update
[04:28] <psusi> SEJeff, anyone I told that I was trying ;)
[04:29] <MarcN> Ep|phany: client or server side?
[04:29] <dylan_> can somebody help me?  my cd drive says that it can burn at 52x, i have edited the hdparm.conf and bootmisc.sh files accordingly to what people and the ubuntu wiki have told me, and yet i cannot burn as fast as i may under Windows XP.  any help is appreciated.
[04:29] <MarcN> Ep|phany: usually just xtightvncviewer hostname:1 or tightvncserver to start a server
[04:29] <SEJeff> psusi: You will learn to love the grub shell once it saves your butt a time or two
[04:29] <psusi> it was like as soon as they saw mention of raid, their brain shut down and their auto reply was "that kind of raid isn't supported"
[04:30] <psusi> oh hell yea
[04:30] <psusi> it didn't quite default the right parameters the first time
[04:30] <SEJeff> psusi: AND your time
[04:30] <robotgeek> Razor-X: hmm, the file was recieved.
[04:30] <psusi> so I dropped to the shell and fixed it
[04:30] <_native_> SEJeff:K
[04:30] <Razor-X> robotgeek: like it was saved?
[04:30] <dooglus> MarcN: we're talking about vino, not vnc, and it seems to be stored in gconfd
[04:31] <robotgeek> Razor-X: i said test message as the subject. it seemed to gone through. but not thru nsmtpd?
[04:31] <dooglus> MarcN: at any rate, I see a new entry ADD 1728053320 "def" "/apps/gnome-settings/vino" in my .gconfd/saved_state
[04:31] <Razor-X> psusi: GRUB with RAID?
[04:31] <Razor-X> psusi: my solution for that is mdadm
[04:32] <Garrett> Razor-X: Suggestions for this crappy problem?
[04:32] <psusi> Razor-X: yes... hardware fakeraid... my motherboard has a via sata raid controller that worked great in windows
[04:32] <Razor-X> Garrett: have you checked your devices.map, like psusi said?
[04:32] <psusi> with a proprietary driver
[04:32] <pppoe_dude> hi all, im having A/V sync problems encoding from realvideo to xvid (or any other for that matter). What should be the fps setting for a real video?
[04:32] <Razor-X> pusling: ahhh
[04:32] <pppoe_dude> (using mencoder)
[04:32] <Razor-X> mdadm works pretty well too, from what i've used
[04:32] <psusi> now I can dual boot windows and ubuntu on the raid0
[04:32] <dylan_> can somebody help me?  my cd drive says that it can burn at 52x, i have edited the hdparm.conf and bootmisc.sh files accordingly to what people and the ubuntu wiki have told me, and yet i cannot burn as fast as i may under Windows XP.  any help is appreciated.
[04:32] <psusi> Razor-X, you can't boot from an mdraid raid 0 ;)
[04:32] <Garrett> Changed hd1 to sda
[04:33] <pppoe_dude> here is the command i used
[04:33] <Garrett> And then I'm doing the map (hd0) (hd1) still in menu.lst
[04:33] <SEJeff> psusi: If you ever do serious data depends on it raid with linux, use 3ware
[04:33] <pppoe_dude>  mencoder ./out2old.ram -o chem1rec.avi -fps 15 -oac mp3lame -ovc xvid -xvidencopts pass=1 bitrate=800
[04:33] <Razor-X> psusi: you can with a few tweaks
[04:33] <SEJeff> Razor-X: custom initrd?
[04:34] <psusi> Razor-X: you can boot from a raid-1 partition, then mount the rest of the disk as raid0
[04:34] <Razor-X> at least Linux you can
[04:34] <psusi> but /boot has to be on a raid1 or non raid partition
[04:34] <core77> hi when i try to lauch gparted i cant this error Core77@core:~$ sudo gparted
[04:34] <Razor-X> psusi: oh, it wasn't? ouchies
[04:34] <Razor-X> :P
[04:34] <psusi> if you are using mdraid that is
[04:34] <core77> Erreur de segmentation
[04:35] <Xlylith> hwllo
[04:35] <[linner] > SEJeff:  I'm trying Kubuntu now...
[04:35] <psusi> because grub needs to be able to read /boot, which it can't do if it is on a raid0
[04:35] <SEJeff> [linner] : I'm sorry
[04:35] <psusi> but with hardware fakeraid, the bios takes care of it so grub can access the whole raid
[04:35] <[linner] > SEJeff:  why?
[04:35] <core77> ...
[04:36] <Razor-X> core77: Je parle un peu francais, mais, alle a #ubuntu-fr si vous parlez en francais
[04:36] <Xlylith> Does anyone know how to fix incorrect version of packages retrieved by my synaptic, or at least point me to the docs? or Manula?
[04:36] <SEJeff> [linner] : I'm just kidding. But I'm not a kde fan. It's too cluttered for my taste
[04:36] <dooglus> Xlylith: what's the problem?
[04:36] <Xlylith> I try to install konquerror
[04:36] <core77> razor i speak english just ran the installation in french
[04:36] <dooglus> Xlylith: what does "apt-cache policy konqueror" show you?
[04:36] <[linner] > SEJeff:  yeah, I agree... but its going much further than ubuntu has... so I thought I could get the other desktop version later
[04:36] <Xlylith> but it seems I try to retrieve different file version with the server
[04:36] <Ludah> What system is required to run Ubuntu?
[04:36] <Razor-X> core77: I hate you :P
[04:37] <[linner] > Ludah:  What do you mean?
[04:37] <core77> i luv u
[04:37] <SEJeff> [linner] : The hardware detection is shared between ubuntu/kubuntu
[04:37] <Razor-X> core77: did my sentence come out right?
[04:37] <bob2> Ludah: gnome requires something like 128MB of ram and a p2
[04:37] <ubuntu> Hi, can I plug togethe 2 partitions. My hda9 and hda10 have 194 MB and I want increase hda9 (root partition)?
[04:37] <Razor-X> core77: cool
[04:37] <core77> sure perfect
[04:37] <Ludah> [linner]  : Hardware requirement
[04:37] <x86i> Is there any real benefit to installing apache/mysql/php with apt-get, over compiling source? Other then a way to upgrade easily?
[04:37] <bob2> Ludah: Orborde equivalent ppc/ia-64 hardware
[04:37] <[linner] > SEJeff:  I wonder why I'm having more success
[04:37] <ubuntu> ops: . <->?
[04:37] <_Dez> whats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu
[04:37] <Razor-X> good, now I can send people to #ubuntu-fr ! :)
[04:37] <bob2> ubuntu: are they immedialy after it?
[04:37] <core77> lol
[04:37] <ubuntu> yes
[04:38] <ubuntu> bob2: yeap
[04:38] <BeGu> _Dez, ubuntu has gnome dektop and kubuntu KDE
[04:38] <dooglus> bob2: I don't think GNOME needs much of a CPU - I've seen it run OK on very old CPUs
[04:38] <bob2> x86i: and saving you hours and meaning someone else does security fixes for you
[04:38] <_Dez> o
[04:38] <MarcN> x86i: apt-get is simpler for most folks.  means you don't have to track security updates
[04:38] <_Dez> which ones better for a P266
[04:38] <bob2> dooglus: hm, ok, I've never gnome below a p3-450 myself
[04:38] <ubuntu> bob2: resize2fs does it?
[04:38] <Razor-X> dooglus: can it run on my P100? :)
[04:38] <bob2> ubuntu: or parted
[04:38] <core77> but do you know something about my problem
[04:38] <Ludah> bub2: ok, I just installed it on a P2 300, with 64MB RAM and it's working far from good =/
[04:38] <bob2> Ludah: 64mb of ram will make gnome suck a lot
[04:38] <x86i> bob2: Yeah, I figured that, but does it impose any limitations over source compiled? Is it less optimized? I doubt it, but it never hurts to ask
[04:38] <ubuntu> bob2: sudo parted? I am runing Live CD
[04:39] <Razor-X> bob2: yeah, bub :)
[04:39] <dooglus> Razor-X: probably.  memory is much more critical than CPU power for GNOME imho
[04:39] <psusi> now to build me a phat rescue initrd
[04:39] <bob2> x86i: no
[04:39] <Ludah> bob2: so I notised =(  well, have to look for another distro
[04:39] <BeGu> Ludah, maybe you should try dsl?
[04:39] <gwark>  P2 300 ??  ouch .. mebbe try DSL for that machine
[04:39] <Razor-X> dooglus: came with 8 MB of RAM, upgraded to 40 MB
[04:39] <ubuntu> Ah, is it possible install Breezy from Live CD or just from install CD?
[04:39] <bob2> ubuntu: you'd need to install it...
[04:39] <bob2> Ludah: huh?
[04:39] <bob2> ubuntu: no
[04:39] <Razor-X> Ludah: no you don't
[04:39] <Xlylith> dooglus: it showed 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu5 0 at breezy updates but 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu4 0 at main packages
[04:39] <psusi> ubotu: yes, but it's a bit more tricky
[04:39] <ubotu> psusi: Are you smoking crack?
[04:39] <bob2> Ludah: use something other than gnome if you don't like it
[04:39] <dooglus> Razor-X: 40Mb would be a problem no matter what CPU you used
[04:39] <blank> my windows just got effed up right now (right before me installing ubuntu), I have two 40 gig drives, if I Install ubuntu on one, and then install windows on the other (in that order), will my boot loader work?
[04:39] <ubuntu> bob2: No, that I can not install Breezy?
[04:39] <Razor-X> dooglus: yeah, ezzatly
[04:39] <intelikey> gwark kde runs fine on a p133
[04:39] <psusi> ubotu: lol... some would say so, yes ;)
[04:39] <ubotu> psusi: No idea
[04:39] <bob2> ubuntu: you cannot (easily) install from a livecd, no
[04:40] <Razor-X> blank: other way 'round
[04:40] <ubuntu> bob2: Install parted? how can I do it form live CD?
[04:40] <Ludah> bob2: I didn't have a choise, it installed gnome without asking
[04:40] <blank> I know, but I dont have the windows disk with me
[04:40] <ubuntu> bob2: from*
[04:40] <Razor-X> blank: windows first then linux for the best results
[04:40] <intelikey> granted you do wait on a few things to load....
[04:40] <bob2> ubuntu: with apt...
[04:40] <dooglus> Xlylith: in hoary?
[04:40] <gwark> intelikey ... your using KDE in ubuntu rather than gnome?
[04:40] <Razor-X> blank: :(
[04:40] <bob2> Ludah: yes, that is the default
[04:40] <blank> I know...but I dont hav the disc with me, I'm so pissed
[04:40] <Xlylith> breezy
[04:40] <ubuntu> bob2: ok
[04:40] <bob2> Ludah: if you want someting else, install it
[04:40] <ubuntu> bob2: thks
[04:40] <blank> But listen
[04:40] <[linner] > SEJeff:  do i deal with the xserver on kubuntu?
[04:40] <blank> I have windows installed
[04:40] <intelikey> not in ub in mdk gwark
[04:40] <psusi> you can install from a livecd... provided you don't mind running a few command lines
[04:40] <Xlylith> dooglus: I use breezy
[04:40] <Razor-X> blank: Windows installers eat up the MBR as if they owned the bloody thing
[04:40] <bob2> blank: please ask your entire question on one line
[04:40] <psusi> and have network access
[04:40] <SEJeff> [linner] : Yes
[04:40] <Razor-X> blank: but it's not in your boot menu?
[04:41] <blank> okay, if I install ubuntu on my other clean drive, and then I 'install, or reinstall' windows on the other, wouldn't the entries be the same? and therefore work?
[04:41] <gwark> intelikey  ... far as i know mdk was a shoot-em-up game :)
[04:41] <bob2> psusi: yes, but debootstrap is more fiddling than I think people who need to ask will be able to deal with
[04:41] <blank> aww they do
[04:41] <Razor-X> blank: MBR is irrespective of drive, so it won't really help
[04:41] <[linner] > SEJeff:  so if i had a problem with the video card initially then i most likely will with kubuntu also....?
[04:41] <blank> man I'm so pissed, I wont be able to do it until tomorrow then
[04:41] <dooglus> Xlylith: you need to "sudo apt-get update" then.  breezy's updates have 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu6 now
[04:41] <x86i> blank: install linux over the windows, then install windows later. When windows over writes the MBR, use the cd to install GRUB again.
[04:41] <blank> *pissed pissed pissed*
[04:41] <Ludah> bob2: and uninstall gnome?  Well I wouldn't know where to begin
[04:41] <intelikey> in ub gwark i'm x-less atm
[04:41] <bob2> Ludah: then just install something else
[04:41] <gwark> ;] 
[04:41] <Xlylith> dooglus: I have
[04:41] <blank> x86i: :D, how can I install grub again with the CD
[04:42] <Razor-X> intelikey: a suggestion if you like X is to use twin in the meantime
[04:42] <dooglus> Xlylith: any errors from "sudo apt-get update"?
[04:42] <psusi> bob2: possibly... if someone is asking though, best to explain and let them decide if they are that determined to do it ;)
[04:42] <x86i> blank: When you boot from the ubuntu cd, type 'expert'
[04:42] <Xlylith> the usual BADSIG error
[04:42] <SEJeff> [linner] : Why yep
[04:42] <ubuntu> bob2: parted comes with Live CD of Breezy :)
[04:42] <Razor-X> blank: ah yes, I forgot about that step :0
[04:42] <x86i> blank: it will give you more options
[04:42] <Ludah> BeGu: dsl?
[04:42] <Razor-X> *:)
[04:42] <[linner] > SEJeff:  once i get to the point where the xserver craps out, are you able to help me with that?
[04:42] <BeGu> Ludah, damn small linux
[04:42] <blank> x86i: wouldn't that reinstall ubuntu?
[04:42] <Ep|phany> how can i tell what video card i have
[04:42] <Xlylith> dooglus: the usual BADSIG GPG error
[04:42] <blank> when I choose expert, can I choose to 'only' install grub?
[04:42] <bob2> Ep|phany: look at your receipt
[04:42] <[linner] > SEJeff:  i just got finished creating the partitions and it looks like it's about to install
[04:42] <bob2> Ep|phany: what are you trying to do?
[04:43] <Ludah> BeGu: ok, I will look it up on distrowatch, thx
[04:43] <intelikey> Razor-X 'IF' i install x, it will probably be flux or k   but i'm not really planning on it.
[04:43] <bob2> blank: please don't choose expert mode
[04:43] <x86i> blank: No, you can install grub, then abort the installtion, and reboot. Grub will remain. Just dont install the base system.
[04:43] <blank> why not
[04:43] <Ep|phany> i just want to see if my vid card can run a certain game
[04:43] <Razor-X> Ludah: you don't need to
[04:43] <blank> ah okay
[04:43] <bob2> blank: because there's no point and you'll end up with a weird system
[04:43] <blank> bob2: Why not?
[04:43] <Ep|phany> but someone just gave me this notepad and i dont know the specs
[04:43] <blank> what do you mean
[04:43] <Ludah> Razor-X: What do you recommend?
[04:43] <Razor-X> Ludah: you don't have enough power for GTK?
[04:43] <blank> It's only for installing grub, once it's installed, I'm going to abort the installation
[04:43] <Razor-X> intelikey: nicers :)
[04:43] <bob2> blank: I mean, you don't understand what it does, so don't do it until you do
[04:43] <bob2> blank: then do a default install
[04:43] <dooglus> Xlylith: fix the badsig error then...  "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release; sudo apt-get update""
[04:43] <blank> I understand what it does...
[04:43] <Ep|phany> so is there away i can check what video card i have
[04:44] <bob2> blank: walk through to the partitioning stage, and then chroot into your system from another terminal
[04:44] <bob2> Ep|phany: depends
[04:44] <bob2> Ep|phany: lspci perhaps
[04:44] <Ludah> Razor-X: I have 64MB RAM and Gnome eats up my hd
[04:44] <bob2> blank: you understand what it does? really?
[04:44] <Razor-X> Ludah: ahhh
[04:44] <blank> x86i: is there any other ways to install grub?
[04:44] <Razor-X> Ludah: try Xubuntu
[04:44] <Ep|phany> will device manager do the trick
[04:44] <ubuntu> Hey, for use parted, does someone know what is MINOR? "resize MINOR START END"
[04:44] <x86i> bob2: The issue blank is having is that he has to install windows AFTER linux, and windows over writes the MBR. This method will get GRUB installed again.
[04:44] <robotgeek> Razor-X: not working, still.
[04:44] <Razor-X> robotgeek: you FCC'd the file, I presume?
[04:44] <blank> exactly what x86i said :)
[04:44] <dooglus> Xlylith: ubotu has more extreme advice for fixing the gpg error - but I'd like to know if what I told you does the trick.
[04:44] <blank> x86i: any other ways to install grub?
[04:45] <Ludah> Razor-X: ok, witch window manager does it use?
[04:45] <bob2> blank: that's got nothing to do with expert mode
[04:45] <Razor-X> Ludah: XFce
[04:45] <bob2> blank: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:45] <blank> right now im on windows, and it's totatly messed up, spyware crawled into me like a virus lol
[04:45] <x86i> blank: None less complicated. Not unless you know how to make a bootable floppy.
[04:45] <Xlylith> dooglus: thx, I'll try
[04:45] <dooglus> Xlylith: let me know if it works.
[04:45] <_native_> omg the bug i just found i so funny it can only be seen not dscribed.
[04:45] <blank> yes, but I'd like grub installed
[04:45] <Ludah> Razor-X: ok, I will look it up but it has to be a really easy window manager
[04:45] <intelikey> blank do you have any linux os installed ?
[04:45] <Razor-X> _native_: screenshot it, baby :)
[04:45] <dooglus> _native_: make a screendump?
[04:45] <bob2> blank: read that page then
[04:45] <blank> ubuntu
[04:45] <blank> kay thanks bob2
[04:45] <Razor-X> Ludah: it's pretty user-friendly
[04:46] <robotgeek> Razor-X: yes, do you want me to paste it somewhere?
[04:46] <intelikey> blank then boot ub and run grub-install
[04:46] <Razor-X> robotgeek: no no no, that's fine
[04:46] <psusi> let's see... what nice things should go into a rescue initrd?  fdisk and ntfsresize... what else?  hrm...
[04:46] <Razor-X> robotgeek: try using the nbsmtp parameters I ganve you and append a `` < mail'' where mail is the filename of you mail
[04:46] <x86i> blank: That method  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows is the best.
[04:46] <megabyzus> how does one start a terminal in ubuntu
[04:46] <ubuntu> blank: Do you know what is this MINOR ?
[04:46] <megabyzus> i want to execute commands.
[04:46] <_native_> video of it is the only thing im telling you, im rotfl.
[04:46] <bob2> megabyzus: applications -> accesseroies...
[04:46] <robotgeek> Razor-X: hmm, i did not think of that
[04:47] <bob2> megabyzus: what are you planning to do?
[04:47] <dooglus> megabyzus: one clicks applications->system-tools->terminal
[04:47] <megabyzus> bob2 of course
[04:47] <blank> ubuntu: what?
[04:47] <Razor-X> robotgeek: this is to see whether it's mutt that's screwing up or nbsmtp
[04:47] <megabyzus> thanks
[04:47] <intelikey> psusi mke2fs ?
[04:47] <robotgeek> Razor-X: that seems to have worked, lemme see if it actually delivered it
[04:47] <dooglus> megabyzus: ignore me.  bob2's right.
[04:47] <Razor-X> psusi: SystemRescueCD is good enough for me for a rescue disc
[04:47] <ubuntu> blank: Inside parted program for resize, do you know th emeaning of MINOR?
[04:47] <blank> x86i , bob2: Thanks guys
[04:47] <psusi> I suppose for a more general rescue image... but I only use ext2 for /boot... and I might stop doing that at some point...
[04:47] <x86i> Blank: or, http://grub4dos.sourceforge.net/ can help. its a windows grub installer.
[04:47] <intelikey> psusi bash/busybox
[04:47] <blank> I've heard of it, but I'm sorry, I dont
[04:47] <dooglus> but...  why do I have a applications->system-tools->terminal menu entry which doesn't work???
[04:48] <Xlylith> dooglus: sorry, but it doesnt't work
[04:48] <_native_> how could i record what it does on the scree?
[04:48] <[linner] > SEJeff:  ever used Open SuSE?
[04:48] <dooglus> Xlylith: what happens?
[04:48] <_native_> *screen
[04:48] <Xlylith> dooglus: I still get the wrong version of konqueror
[04:48] <bob2> dooglus: guess it didn't get removed when it should have
[04:48] <psusi> Razor-X: I don't want to have to boot from a cd... so I'm adding toys to a new initramfs that I can have grub boot from the hard disk and manipulate the partitions and whatnot
[04:48] <ubuntu> blank: Ok, you must have typed wrongly: 03:45 < blank> ubuntu
[04:48] <bob2> _native_: in X?
[04:48] <blank> windows grub installer aye, and I'd install that while using windows? If that's the case I'll just wait, I'm running windows now and it's like being a Jew sneaking into a nazi camp
[04:48] <_native_> yes
[04:48] <Razor-X> _native_: is it in X?
[04:48] <psusi> intelikey, that's already in the initramfs
[04:48] <SEJeff> [linner] : I stopped using suse at 8.3
[04:48] <intelikey> psusi you use mke2fs for ext3 you know
[04:48] <bob2> _native_: istanbul is one option
[04:48] <dooglus> Xlylith: did the update show you gpg errors again?
[04:48] <blank> ubuntu: I was saying the OS I had, someone had asked
[04:48] <Razor-X> psusi: hmmm... that's a nice idea
[04:48] <[linner] > SEJeff:  how come?
[04:48] <Xlylith> When I sudo apt-get update, I still get the wrong version
[04:48] <Xlylith> dooglus: nope
[04:48] <SEJeff> [linner] : Wanted to try redhat
[04:49] <Razor-X> psusi: can you make something that can mount a CD image and boot a floppy at the same time?
[04:49] <dooglus> Xlylith: which mirror are you using?
[04:49] <pramz> hello everyone :-)
[04:49] <Razor-X> psusi: that lies on an existing partition?
[04:49] <psusi> intelikey: I'm using resierfs... going to repartition a bit and do some testing of resier4 I think
[04:49] <[linner] > SEJeff:  did you like it when you used it?
[04:49] <ubuntu> blank: Ok, cause the line appeared on irssi as if you typed to me :-D
[04:49] <Xlylith> id.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:49] <[linner] > SEJeff:  i'm downloading it now
[04:49] <SEJeff> [linner] : Eventually fell in love with fedora and later found ubuntu. Ubuntu is the best in my opinion for a linux desktop
[04:49] <psusi> Razor-X: what do you mean mount a cd and boot a floppy?
[04:49] <chuck87> does someone have a serial of vmware beta 5.5
[04:49] <chuck87> ?
[04:49] <blank> hey guys, I've heard so much about irssi, what is it
[04:49] <Xlylith> dooglus: I use id.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:49] <_native_> bob2: whats that and where?
[04:49] <pramz> SEJeff, i agree, I have recommended it to a few people already :)
[04:49] <psusi> I also don't have a floppy drive... they are obsolete piles of shit and I'm glad to see them go
[04:50] <blank> Anyone know how to host an IRC?
[04:50] <SEJeff> [linner] : The guys at work use SUSE 10 (OpenSUSE) and I think it sucks honestly
[04:50] <intelikey> blank irc client
[04:50] <dabaR> blank: an irc in the terminal.
[04:50] <blank> a
[04:50] <psusi> I wrote a floppy disk driver once for ReactOS... man they suck
[04:50] <blank> *ah
[04:50] <blank> thanks
[04:50] <Razor-X> psusi: hahahaha, floppies kick ass
[04:50] <bob2> _native_: uh, apt-cache search, www.freshmeat.net
[04:50] <Xlylith> dooglus: shoul I try another mirror?
[04:50] <chuck87> does someone have a serial of vmware beta 5.5
[04:50] <[linner] > SEJeff:  yeah i agree... I'm running it on an older gateway... it's perfect... but for my laptop so far it sucks
[04:50] <bob2> blank: an irc client that everyone uses
[04:50] <bob2> chuck87: you will not be warned again
[04:50] <megabyzus> ok i have package i want to install with a .deb extension
[04:50] <[linner] > SEJeff:  so i was thinking maybe i should try another that might have it right for my laptop
[04:50] <megabyzus> 'what do i do with it?
[04:50] <blank> oh it is? I'm using xchat
[04:50] <_native_> bob2: universe or multi?
[04:50] <dooglus> Xlylith: I'm just checking...
[04:50] <psusi> I hate floppies with a passion
[04:50] <Razor-X> psusi: not everyone can afford a $20 USB stick
[04:50] <bob2> megabyzus: what are you trying to do?
[04:50] <SEJeff> [linner] : Fedora
[04:50] <dooglus> Xlylith: what version is it installing?
[04:50] <robotgeek> Razor-X: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4339
[04:50] <psusi> Razor-X: is that supposed to be a joke? ;)
[04:50] <[linner] > SEJeff:  is it easy to use?
[04:51] <Razor-X> psusi: think of age groups when you think of floppies :)
[04:51] <megabyzus> i'm installing skype...there is a ubuntu version i downloaded
[04:51] <intelikey> get all your warez at ftp://localhost.localdomain
[04:51] <SEJeff> [linner] : Very. It uses gnome 2.10
[04:51] <robotgeek> Razor-X: output of nbsmtp
[04:51] <[linner] > SEJeff:  what makes it better than SuSE?
[04:51] <psusi> you can hardly EAT for $20... if you aren't a starving cambodian, you can afford a usb memory stick ;)
[04:51] <[linner] > SEJeff:  don't you have to pay for Fedora?
[04:51] <psusi> that reminds me... I should go buy one of those
[04:51] <psusi> I usually just use cds or the Internet
[04:51] <SEJeff> [linner] : It *actually* has a community around it. It is free also
[04:52] <bob2> $20 could be a week's food if you're frugal
[04:53] <Razor-X> robotgeek: can I see your string with the password X'd ?
[04:53] <dabaR> psusi: why would you need a stick....there is sftp...
[04:53] <[linner] > psusi:  buy what?  a starving cambodian??? :)
[04:53] <blank> should I be afraid of my windows 'infections' spreading over to linux?
[04:53] <psusi> lol
[04:53] <[linner] > SEJeff:  oh wow... cool.... that's the primary reason i came back to ubuntu... for the community
[04:53] <SEJeff> blank: no
[04:53] <nemik> hello everyone
[04:53] <Xlylith> dooglus: It try to install version ubuntu5
[04:53] <blank> they'd be on separate drives, but I can format my drive if I should
[04:53] <robotgeek> Razor-X: the password is blanked ot
[04:53] <dabaR>  [linner]  yes, buy a starving cambodian.
[04:53] <Razor-X> psusi: or you're a 15 year old whose income is bottlenecked by parents, that's there too
[04:53] <psusi> [linner] , a usb memory stick
[04:53] <robotgeek> Razor-X: or encrypted
[04:53] <[linner] > dabaR:  hehehe :)
[04:53] <SEJeff> [linner] : The Ubuntu community tops ANY linux distro minus debian
[04:53] <dabaR> bob2: so...
[04:53] <dooglus> Xlylith: there's no ubuntu5 version on the mirror you're using.
[04:53] <[linner] > psusi:  i was making a jobke
[04:53] <Razor-X> robotgeek: yeah, either way
[04:53] <linkd> w0ot
[04:53] <[linner] > psusi:  joke ;)
[04:53] <intelikey> hmmm it would cost me a lot more than $20 to use a usb mem stick......  i'd have to have a box with a usb interface....
[04:53] <nemik> anyone know the 'default keyring password' i keep getting asked for from the printer utility?
[04:53] <psusi> Razor-X, even 15 year olds can scratch up $20... they do it all the time to buy music cds with
[04:53] <bob2> dabaR: ?
[04:53] <psusi> [linner] , it was funny ;)
[04:53] <Razor-X> psusi: I don't
[04:53] <dooglus> Xlylith: do a "sudo apt-get clean" to clear out your apt package cache
[04:53] <[linner] > SEJeff:  and being that it's based on Debian then it's probably hand in hand :)
[04:53] <Razor-X> psusi: I don't own a single music CD :)
[04:53] <[linner] > psusi:  laughing on the inside? :)
[04:53] <Xlylith> dooglus: ok
[04:53] <Razor-X> psusi: my parents don't like me spending any money I have on frivolities (not that we can't afford them or anything)
[04:53] <psusi> [linner] , no... outloud actually...
[04:53] <SEJeff> [linner] : exactly
[04:53] <[linner] > psusi:  hehehehe
[04:53] <[linner] > SEJeff:  cross your fingers for me... it's still going... maybe JUST maybe I can get it to work
[04:53] <psusi> I was so glad when cds came out... tapes sucked so much
[04:53] <Razor-X> psusi: nor do I own a sigle comic book to name, I own some books though (I love reading, of course)
[04:53] <_native_> beep-media-player seems slower than xmms e.g. scrolling lag, moving around the screen lags etc...
[04:54] <SEJeff> psusi: DLT owns
[04:54] <dabaR> psusi: cds suck worse even...
[04:54] <nemik> good thing you're on linux...cough, $sys$ cough....
[04:54] <psusi> SEJeff: I  mean music casset tapes ;)
[04:54] <MarcN> 'course they weren't invented until then...
[04:54] <Razor-X> MarcN: did you ever notice that your sentence shifted from third to first person?
[04:54] <psusi> SEJeff: but tapes for backup suck too... they allways work untill the moment you go to restore from them ;)
[04:54] <megabyzus> bob2 u still with me...(:)?
[04:54] <nemik> anyone know the 'default keyring password' i keep getting asked for from the printer utility?
[04:54] <Razor-X> :)
[04:54] <Xlylith> dooglus: should I try another mirror?
[04:54] <MarcN> Razor-X: yes he noticed it. ;-)
[04:54] <robotgeek> Razor-X: i don't believe this. i was messing up my password!
[04:54] <SEJeff> psusi: That is what a BC plan is for... you test your backups every other month or so
[04:54] <psusi> and all the slow seeking is a pain
[04:55] <Razor-X> robotgeek: I made an even worse mistake, and it took me 3 hours to figure it out
[04:55] <psusi> SEJeff, yea... and the tests allways pass
[04:55] <bob2> megabyzus: ?
[04:55] <Cindy> hi guys can anyone here knows about Berkeley DB?
[04:55] <Razor-X> MarcN: :P
[04:55] <blank> I uh...wanna format this drive (since it has windows and ubuntu on it). I'm gonna install ubuntu on my other drive, and I dont want any conflicts
[04:55] <psusi> then the second you are done with a successfull test, your drive crashes, and you go to restore from the tape, and it's dead... heh
[04:55] <dooglus> Xlylith: the mirror you're using is really just archive.ubuntu.com - it's fine
[04:55] <blank> in windows, what's the format command
[04:55] <megabyzus> bob2 ....do you know what to do with *.deb files?
[04:55] <bob2> Cindy: best to just ask your question
[04:55] <blank> format C:/ ?
[04:55] <Razor-X> blank: I think so, IIRC
[04:55] <megabyzus> bob2 i downloaded skype and wnat to install it
[04:55] <dooglus> Xlylith: you could try following this advice:
[04:55] <bob2> megabyzus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype
[04:55] <dooglus> !gpgerr
[04:55] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[04:55] <blank> dpkg -i package
[04:55] <robotgeek> Razor-X: damn, all this while,my postfix was working. i can't believe i did this!
[04:56] <megabyzus> bob2 thanks!
[04:56] <bob2> megabyzus: also, in future, it's simpler if you state your full problem, instead of some small sliver of it
[04:56] <_native_> SEJeff: you run selinux right and if so just on severs?
[04:56] <blank> Razor-X: what?
[04:56] <Razor-X> robotgeek: :)
[04:56] <robotgeek> Razor-X: thanks for your help!
[04:56] <Razor-X> blank: format C:\ should work
[04:56] <Cindy> i want to install berkeley db to my ubuntu but i dont know how is the proper way
[04:56] <blank> hey guys I really need to frickin erase this drive, what's the best way
[04:56] <SEJeff> psusi: We have one of those tape robots and some crazy shell scripts to copy off random files, check the md5, and then put them back where they belong
[04:56] <psusi> blank, what do you need to erase it for?
[04:56] <SEJeff> _native_: I run SELinux on my servers, not on ubuntu. It isn't really integrated with ubuntu yet
[04:56] <[linner] > SEJeff:  can you help me ... once i get there ... tell the laptop to use another video driver?  I'm using the ATI 200m in my v2000z... and I know that's what crapped out the xserver before... but honestly can't remember how to do it all again... :(
[04:56] <psusi> SEJeff, a big system like that probably works well... I've just had cheapo consumer tape backups
[04:57] <blank> because I dont want any conflicts when I install ubuntu on my other drive (since it's already installed on this one) and I'm going to erase it anyways when I install windows again
[04:57] <ce_sma_jmbl> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[04:57] <kevman> Can ubotu tell me what repo a package is in?
[04:57] <[linner] > SEJeff:  tritium helped me do it before and it was a bi-otch  :)
[04:57] <dabaR> blank: its put in the cd into the drive...
[04:57] <_native_> SEJeff: its in the kernel though so wouldnt it just be a matter of writing and compiling policies?
[04:57] <MarcN> Cindy: apt-get install libdb3 libdb3-dev
[04:57] <blank> or should I just erase it when I install windows
[04:57] <blank> dabaR: what?
[04:57] <psusi> a long time ago I had an 80 MB QIC-80 tape drive... then I got a 2 gig scsi DAT drive
[04:57] <megabyzus> bob2 that link is asking for 'Personal Security manager' PSM
[04:57] <dabaR> blank: to format a drive, just put the installation cd into the drive.
[04:57] <FXRS|Laptop> Hello
[04:58] <blank> If I keep this installation of ubuntu on one drive, and I install ubuntu on the other drive, will tere be conflicts?
[04:58] <bob2> megabyzus: why are you using mozilla or firefox without ssl supporT?
[04:58] <SEJeff> _native_: just a matter of writing and compiling policies... I see you've never played with selinux have you?
[04:58] <blank> dabaR: I know, but I'm not going to be using the drive today, okay listen
[04:58] <MarcN> psusi: I installed my first linux on a 120M disk.
[04:58] <intelikey> blank to overwrite an entire drive as root or with sudo "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hd? "
[04:58] <robotgeek> Razor-X: cool, both postfix and nbstmp work. though nbsmtp was really really simple!
[04:58] <megabyzus> bob2 i'm using this 'as-is' installed vanilla ubuntu
[04:58] <FXRS|Laptop> Wonder if I could ask a question about an error I'm getting while running apt-get update?
[04:58] <SEJeff> _native_: SELinux is in the mainline kernel. The policies are the hardest part
[04:58] <_native_> SEJeff: no only grsecurity.
[04:58] <dabaR> FXRS|Laptop: no, you cant.
[04:58] <FXRS|Laptop> :D
[04:58] <psusi> MarcN: I think mine was 80 MB ;)
[04:58] <Cindy> MarcN: error occurred...E: Package libdb3-dev has no installation candidate
[04:58] <dooglus> a big telecoms company I was working for went 3 years or so not having any backups at all.  one team wrote the backup script to lock all the databases and source control and dump tarballs into /dump; another team copied the contents of /DUMP onto tar.  both teams did this religeously for 3 years, not realising that /dump and /DUMP were different places!
[04:58] <Xlylith> dooglus: is it possible that my problem caused by my ISP's proxy server
[04:58] <Cindy> waht does it mean?
[04:58] <dooglus> lucky there was never a disaster...
[04:58] <psusi> it was slackware
[04:59] <FXRS|Laptop> Here is the error......
[04:59] <dabaR> FXRS|Laptop: ask ubotu about gpgerr in private message.
[04:59] <psusi> circa 1995
[04:59] <MarcN> psusi: well that 120 had windows on some of it ;-)   SLS from floppies.
[04:59] <_native_> SEJeff: i know policies in selinux seem hard thats why i like grsecurity and rsbac.
[04:59] <blank> I have two drives, on one, I have a messed up installation of windows and a partition for ubuntu. I'm going to install windows on it, but I dont have the cd atm, so I cant right now. Instead, I'm going to install ubuntu on my other drive, but I'd like to erase this one so there wont be any conflicts. How may I do that
[04:59] <ubuntu_> sweet :)
[04:59] <MarcN> Cindy: then install one of the libdb4.x packages.   apt-get search libdb  or use synaptic
[04:59] <Xlylith> dooglus: I am affraid I got the wrong package list because it is cached in the proxy
[04:59] <kevman> !tell me about mplayer
[05:00] <dooglus> Xlylith: it's possible, yes.  look here with a web browser: http://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/ -- do you see #  konqueror_3.4.3-0ubuntu6_i386.deb ?
[05:00] <Cindy> ok thanks MarcN your such a good one
[05:00] <Xlylith> yes
[05:00] <SEJeff> _native_: But SELinux is the future, not grsecurity
[05:00] <psusi> MarcN, I remember when I got a nice 486SX/25 with an 80 gig drive... DOS couldn't handle partitions more than 40 MB so you had to break it in two... heh
[05:00] <blank> anyone, please
[05:00] <[linner] > ubotu is dumb
[05:00] <ubotu> [linner] : Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:00] <MarcN> psusi: mine was the rocking /33!
[05:00] <blank> I have two drives, on one, I have a messed up installation of windows and a partition for ubuntu. I'm going to install windows on it, but I dont have the cd atm, so I cant right now. Instead, I'm going to install ubuntu on my other drive, but I'd like to erase this one so there wont be any conflicts. How may I do that
[05:00] <_native_> SEJeff: yeah its unavoidable since its in mainline.
[05:00] <snausages> hey all, how can i check if my CDs were shipped or not
[05:00] <Xlylith> dooglus: when I manually browse the web, I see the packages
[05:01] <psusi> blank, you don't need to
[05:01] <dabaR> [linner] : did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:01] <FXRS|Laptop> hmm how do I ask the bot?
[05:01] <SEJeff> _native_: And backed by redhat, ibm, and the nsa
[05:01] <blank> pussi: I dont? so there wont be any conflicts?
[05:01] <blank> *psusi
[05:01] <psusi> blank, shouldn't be
[05:01] <[linner] > dabaR:  apparently i did... kept pming it and it told me not to post in mainstream channel
[05:01] <[linner] > stupid bot
[05:01] <_native_> SEJeff: are there tools being developed to ease configuration?
[05:01] <Xlylith> dooglus: btw, what is the timestamp of the current Packages.gz?
[05:01] <_jason> snausages, launchpad let's you know when they were sent to the shipping company if you log in
[05:01] <intelikey> blank use sudo cfdisk /dev/hd?   and delete any partitions on the disk in question then make new partition/s and they will be empty partitions    then mkfs the new partition   or use the installers partition editor and do the same...
[05:01] <blank> hmm...okay, but I'm still scared :'(
[05:01] <dabaR> FXRS|Laptop: in private, you have to be registered, /msg nickserv help register is the command for irc
[05:01] <Xlylith> dooglus: mine is 24 Oktober
[05:01] <FXRS|Laptop> Yep I'm reg.
[05:01] <shadeofgrey> okay guys... is there anybody here thats familiar with using the very basic server install of ubuntu?
[05:01] <SEJeff> _native_: The fedora tools aren't bad for configuring selinux for apache
[05:01] <dabaR> FXRS|Laptop: then /msg ubotu gpgerr
[05:01] <psusi> if you REALLY want to blank the disk, run dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
[05:01] <blank> intelikey: you're too smart :( I just wanna erase the whole drive, in windows, it's format C:/ ?
[05:02] <blank> okay, but I still dont see how I can do that while actually issueing that command from that disck
[05:02] <blank> wouldn't it like...kill itself
[05:02] <dabaR> format c:\
[05:02] <psusi> blank, you can't do it while running windows off that drive
[05:02] <agtnz> shadeofgrey: are you looking for a minimal desktop or for an actual server install?
[05:02] <dooglus> Xlylith: which Packages.gz?
[05:02] <blank> so should I do it with knoppix?
[05:02] <blank> knoppix?
[05:02] <intelikey> blank if you delete the partition it will effectively erace the drive...
[05:02] <shadeofgrey> ....that also would take the time to talk to a relative newbie?  im pretty versed in using the full desktop version to get things done
[05:02] <dabaR> blank: yes
[05:02] <blank> actually I'll use ubuntu live
[05:03] <psusi> you can not format c: while running windows from c:
[05:03] <_native_> SEJeff: see thats what frustrates me, the difficulty in policy writing.
[05:03] <blank> lol yeah I was wondering that
[05:03] <blank> okay so I'm gonna do it through ubuntu live, that's okay right?
[05:03] <snausages> _jason, when i go to launchpad, where can i check about the shipment
[05:03] <_Dez> how do i uninstall ICEWM
[05:03] <Xlylith> dooglus: the one in breezy update
[05:03] <FX|Laptop> thanks for the help.
[05:03] <dabaR> _Dez: how do you install anything?
[05:03] <blank> actually kubuntu took a while to install, so I think ubuntu will too, I'll just use knoppix
[05:03] <FX|Laptop> I guess my second name isn't reg. lol
[05:03] <dooglus> Xlylith: you can see the timestamp here: ftp://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i386 -- it's 5th Nov
[05:03] <Davey> blank, if you partition a drive for windows, format c:\ will not erase the entire drive, just that partition
[05:04] <guilherme> hey guys, any media player for mpeg videos that is compatible for ubuntu?
[05:04] <jmworx> I've got a Dell PowerEdge here and Breezy won't install on it ("can't find the CDROM or something"). Oddly enough, the last Breezy RC works.
[05:04] <_native_> SEJeff: i avoided selinux because of that cause if somthing is hard to configure most likely it will result in security holes from admin error.
[05:04] <SEJeff> _native_: You can't seriously expect Mandatory Access Control to be "easy" thats why the only other mainline OS with MAC is Trusted Solaris
[05:04] <_Dez> dabaR apt-get install.. o apt-get uninstall right?
[05:04] <intelikey> blank just boot the ub install disk and when the time comes it will ask you what to do about the partition/s   and tell it you want to manually setup partitions   then delete the old and make new    it's really simple....
[05:04] <dabaR> why are we talking about windows?
[05:04] <_jason> snausages, ack sorry... i meant shipit... just go to make a new order and it should be at the top
[05:04] <blank> so if the drive is the first one, it'd be, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
[05:04] <dvhart> guilherme, totem/mplayer/xine
[05:04] <nebular> I'm attemping to setup printer sharing through cups and samba. previously when I set this up samba would automatically setup the printer from the printcap file, but now I don't seem to have one, how do I set one up?
[05:04] <dooglus> Xlylith: what do you see for this command: md5sum /var/lib/apt/lists/*ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages
[05:04] <snausages> _jason, it just asks me how many cds i want :\
[05:04] <shadeofgrey> agtnz:  im looking to create a minimal desktop install designed for the single purpose of becoming a dedicated mailserver -- but im not looking to do everything by commandline... i want Xwindows and Gnome running, just because i only have the use of one hand and typing all the commands id need to really get things going with three fingers on one hand is a daunting task
[05:04] <blank> itelikey: Like I've said, I want to erase a different disk, not the one I'm installing ubuntu on
[05:04] <guilherme> dvhart: this a package (repositories) , plugin or a binary?
[05:05] <snausages> even though i ordered a long time ago
[05:05] <snausages> i don't even remember when
[05:05] <Xlylith> dooglus: then it seems that my ISP's proxy mess this up :-D
[05:05] <blank> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda erases the whole drive right?
[05:05] <_native_> SEJeff: it cant be that hard. you can throw it in targeted mode right as too debug policies?
[05:05] <intelikey> blank  i know.... just do what i said  it works ......   really    the setup script in ubuntu will let you do that....
[05:05] <Xlylith> dooglus: is there any way to get the package list manually and overwrite it to the old one?
[05:05] <_jason> snausages, mine says: Your previous requests
[05:05] <_jason>     * 2005-09-25: 5 CDs (sent to shipping company)
[05:05] <_jason>  at the top... you logged in with same account?  when did you order?
[05:05] <Shadowpillar> question
[05:05] <blank> I'm so scazred :(
[05:06] <Shadowpillar> what kernel does breezy use?
[05:06] <Cindy> im installing my openLDAP but after i type ./configure something went wrong
[05:06] <SEJeff> _native_: Correct, but you need to know the internals of the OS very well.
[05:06] <Shadowpillar> 2.6.12?
[05:06] <blank> hey, if I install ubuntu on a different drive while already having ubuntu installed on another drive, will there be any conflicts?
[05:06] <b1n0ry> i'm having some problems running the livecd
[05:06] <SEJeff> _native_: ajmitch is the SELinux expert, not me
[05:06] <psusi> blank, that will blank the entire drive, yes... though it will be faster just to delete the partitions... and prety much just as effective
[05:06] <Cindy> it ask me, configure: error: BDB/HDB: BerkeleyDB not available
[05:06] <intelikey> blank no.
[05:06] <blank> so there wont be conflicts
[05:06] <intelikey> blank no.
[05:06] <_Dez> how do i remove icewm
[05:06] <blank> okay then I'll just wait until I get my windows cd so I reformat the whole piece of HD
[05:06] <psusi> does bash have a command like pushd/popd?
[05:07] <_Dez> i want to run fluxbox instead of icewm
[05:07] <Xenguy> _Dez: apt-get remove icewm
[05:07] <b1n0ry> i get this nice red failed screen then a list of steps in the livecd boot process. i can choose the next step, but i apparently can't skip the step that's failing
[05:07] <Cindy> as far as i know i already had installed libdb4.2 from the synaptic
[05:07] <Xenguy> _Dez: --purge is optional
[05:07] <psusi> oh, it HAS pushd/popd... sweet
[05:07] <_Dez> Thanks
[05:07] <Xenguy> yw
[05:07] <MarcN> Cindy: what is asking you that?
[05:07] <Cindy> why does these thing happen to me?? :((
[05:07] <_Dez> icewm is teh ugly and slow
[05:07] <blank> that's cool right? I can just wait until I get my windows cd to install it on that drive, it'd erase it anyways, and just install ubuntu on the other drive for now, that cool?
[05:07] <b1n0ry> the step that fails is "Entering Preinstalled Session"
[05:08] <_native_> i do somewhat. no expert i confess but as the saying goes "if you put your mind to it"
[05:08] <Xenguy> _Dez: ice is actually pretty lean AFAIK
[05:08] <Shadowpillar> I signed up with a valid image request for the shipit system and never got verification
[05:08] <_native_> nothing is impossible
[05:08] <MarcN> Cindy: ah, openldap.  Do you have the libdb4.x-dev installed?
[05:08] <intelikey> blank just boot the install cd and when it asks about the partitions  select manual   and you can blank all your drives from there if you like.   and then just make the partitions you want....   it is real simple.  just read what is on the screen.....
[05:08] <Xenguy> _Dez: you probably have old hardware
[05:08] <_native_> ill start playing with it.
[05:08] <dooglus> Xlylith: what dates do you see here: ftp://id.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i386
[05:08] <guilherme> dvhart: i'm installing, thanks, any aditional plugin for work?
[05:08] <Cindy> MarcN: the synaptic wont install it
[05:08] <blank> intelikey: okay I'll do that buddy :) But I can do that even though I'm installing on another drive right?
[05:09] <blank> so I'll blank them, then install on the drive I want :D
[05:09] <blank> right?
[05:09] <intelikey> blank correct !
[05:09] <MarcN> Cindy: won't install the -dev package for which ever libdb you are using?  why?
[05:09] <psusi> does anyone see what's wrong with this?
[05:09] <Xlylith> dooglus: it's nov 9
[05:09] <blank> Thanks intelikey I wub you :)
[05:09] <blank> hey cindy, I shoot blanks *wink wink*
[05:09] <_native_> when i was using hardened gentoo i had a better understanding of it but have focused on other aspects of linux lately.
[05:09] <blank> c ya guys!
[05:09] <Cindy> MarcN: it says its not installable
[05:09] <psusi> for x in $PROGS do;
[05:09] <psusi> copy_exec `which ${x}` bin
[05:10] <b1n0ry> the only thing i can find via google is something about ATI cards, but i don't have an ATI card.
[05:10] <psusi> done
[05:10] <blank> I'll let ya know how it went intelikey :)
[05:10] <MarcN> Cindy: have you done an update lately?
[05:10] <dooglus> Xlylith: that's what I see too.  so it's right.
[05:10] <SEJeff> _native_: If you want to endlessly tweak your system, gentoo is great. If you want to get work done, ubuntu is better
[05:10] <Cindy> MarcN: i use this command apt-get update
[05:10] <dooglus> Packages.gz  19 KB  09/11/05  17:35:00
[05:10] <blank> anyone know any program for linux that can convert AVI files to DVD Format (to view in a dvd player)
[05:10] <Xenguy> psusi: missing a ';'  ?
[05:10] <intelikey> the ' ; ' is on the wrong side of  ' do '
[05:10] <MarcN> Cindy: apt-get upgrade lately too, right?
[05:10] <psusi> Xenguy, where?
[05:10] <_native_> SEJeff: nodoubt thats why i stopped using gentoo. ;-] 
[05:10] <Xenguy> what intelikey said
[05:10] <dooglus> Xlylith: I said 5th Nov didn't I...  I was mistaken.
[05:10] <intelikey> psusi ^
[05:11] <Cindy> yeah
[05:11] <RedRose> When I SSH To My Server, It Displays ' As ^a, why?
[05:11] <psusi> it is?  hrm...
[05:11] <gord_> blank: you could try Avidemux, allthough i can't guarentee it can do dvd, it can do a lot
[05:11] <SEJeff> psusi: yes take a look at abs
[05:11] <blank> Does anyone know of a program that can convert AVI files to DVD Format (for viewable in a dvd player)
[05:11] <_native_> SEJeff: did more compiling than actual work. well it kept the room warm in winter, :-)
[05:11] <blank> gord_ thanks
[05:11] <MarcN> Cindy: which libdb did you use?  try a different one.
[05:11] <blank> Avidemux, I'll remember that
[05:11] <Cindy> MarcN: havent encountered such problem b4?
[05:11] <gord_> its very good :)
[05:11] <blank> Avidemux, Avidemux, Avidmux
[05:11] <blank> cool
[05:12] <intelikey> psusi syntax is  " for this in blah ;do $this ;done "
[05:12] <blank> hey AVI files aren't windows formats right?
[05:12] <b1n0ry> does anyone have any suggestions for getting the LiveCD to work?
[05:12] <kalango> e ai?
[05:12] <MarcN> Cindy: I've not had to install the -dev package for libdb, so no.
[05:12] <RedRose> When I SSH To My Server, It Displays ' As ^a, why?
[05:12] <guilherme> ola kalango
[05:12] <_native_> intelikey: no
[05:12] <blank> Hey, I'm out, this windows is freaking me out (windows popping out and freezing)
[05:12] <SEJeff> psusi: Just try it in the shell. for file in *; do echo $file; done
[05:12] <gord_> pritty much, avi files are old technology. best to stick with encoding to .ogg. you can store subtitles n more audio streams n stuff
[05:12] <kalango> oi guilherme...
[05:12] <psusi> ahh, got it... thanks
[05:12] <kalango> to testando um linux kalango...
[05:13] <guilherme> beleza rapaz? Acho que somos os unicos que falamos portugues aqui
[05:13] <intelikey> _native_ ?    what language ?
[05:13] <Cindy> MarcN: ah, ok.. but im trying to use centralized server with ldap thats why..:)
[05:13] <kalango> mas to querendo saber mais desse ubuntu.
[05:13] <kalango> pelo menos dois...
[05:13] <_native_> yeah what language? :-] 
[05:13] <SEJeff> kalango: #ubuntu-es ?
[05:13] <guilherme> hehe, pelo menos.. eu utilizo a pouco tempo
[05:13] <_native_> i thought you where refering to bash scripts.
[05:13] <guilherme> pt-brasil SEJeff
[05:14] <kalango> o podes me dizer dele
[05:14] <intelikey> a bash for command is the syntax i posted ^
[05:14] <RedRose> When I SSH To My Server, It Displays ' As ^a, why?
[05:14] <blank> what's the spanish ubuntu channel
[05:14] <intelikey> syntax is  " for this in blah ;do $this ;done "
[05:14] <kalango> ubuntu-pt, SEJeff
[05:14] <SEJeff> kalango: #ubuntu is an english-only channel if I'm not mistaken
[05:15] <shuveb> which package contains the utilities unix2dos and dos2unix?
[05:15] <_native_> ok your style is a little different than mine.
[05:15] <ReleaseX> i just installed networkmanager, but it doesn't seem to be working, there's no aps being found
[05:15] <intelikey> dos2unix  :)
[05:15] <SEJeff> ReleaseX: type nm-applet in a terminal
[05:15] <Xenguy> shuveb: dpkg -S dos2unix
[05:15] <guilherme> sorry SEJeff, we will talk in an individual window, sorry broke the common rules
[05:15] <shuveb> intelikey, there is no such package
[05:15] <b1n0ry> alright, i guess i'm not going to get the livecd to work. too bad, i would have liked to try ubuntu.
[05:16] <rabeldable> anyone alive on here?
[05:16] <shuveb> i even have universe and multiverse enabled
[05:16] <psusi> hrm...
[05:16] <Xenguy> shuveb: sysutils
[05:16] <gord_> what is your problem b1n0ry?
[05:16] <livinded> can someone give me some information about this error, http://pastebin.com/425157
[05:16] <shuveb> Xenguy, thanks! will try
[05:16] <ReleaseX> SEJeff:the applet is already running
[05:16] <Xenguy> shuveb: yw
[05:17] <b1n0ry> gord_: i made up the livecd and attempted to boot to it. i got halted up with a nice red failed screen at "Entering Preinstalled Session"
[05:17] <MarcN> livinded: what cpu you using? x86_64?
[05:17] <intelikey> shuveb that was the package name on the linux distros i've installed it on....  i don't know about this ub.  it may be in with something else...
[05:17] <Xenguy> shuveb: there's also 'flip' BTW
[05:17] <livinded> yes
[05:17] <livinded> MarcN: yes
[05:17] <robw> Would anyone be kind enough to hazard a guess at why ubuntu 5.10 hangs on shutdown, with the error [4295332.587000]  Restarting System.
[05:17] <shuveb> Xenguy, yep, thats the package and it worked
[05:17] <b1n0ry> gord_: then i'm given a list of options to select from... choosing the next step of the process, i guess.
[05:17] <Xenguy> shuveb: great
[05:18] <MarcN> livinded: looks like it has a problem with the glibc
[05:18] <rabeldable> livinded edit the linux_installer.sh and add  a -x to enable debug mode for the script that should tell you where its failing at
[05:18] <livinded> MarcN: but should that not matter if i use linux32?
[05:18] <livinded> rabeldable: ok 1 sec
[05:18] <b1n0ry> gord_: i google'd and searched the ubuntu forums. the only thing i found was in relation to ATI video cards, but i don't have an ATI card.
[05:18] <shuveb> Xenguy, i edited a few files with gedit and when i re-open them in vi, they are littered with ^M chars
[05:18] <shuveb> Xenguy, i thought dos2unix might help
[05:18] <MarcN> livinded: my advice is to give up playing games.    on my x86_64 servers, I don't run 32bit apps, so never used linux32
[05:19] <MarcN> livinded: ;-)
[05:19] <SEJeff> shuveb: ^M are windows style linebreaks. dos2unix should do the trick
[05:19] <rabeldable> the -x goes after the #!/bin/sh with a space after the sh
[05:19] <Xenguy> shuveb: :%s/Ctrl-V Ctrl-M//g
[05:19] <Xenguy> shuveb: sorry...
[05:19] <gord_> its kinda vauge your problem b1n0ry, are you using any kind of special hardware?
[05:19] <rabeldable> if there is no #!/bin/sh try the following command instead
[05:19] <Xenguy> shuveb: I'm assuming you're in vi(m) - duh
[05:19] <livinded> 1 se ci need to copy the disk
[05:19] <rabeldable> sh -x linux_installer.sh
[05:20] <livinded> ok
[05:20] <shuveb> Xenguy, yeah, im in vim
[05:20] <Xenguy> hah
[05:20] <intelikey> all dos2unix does is removes the rclf markup
[05:20] <Xenguy> ok
[05:20] <rabeldable> any mysql people on here?
[05:20] <rabeldable> i have a q
[05:20] <shuveb> Xenguy, will try that as well
[05:20] <SEJeff> rabeldable: it have him a segfault, that means it's not going to work
[05:20] <MarcN> rabeldable: shoot.
[05:20] <Xenguy> shuveb: try the above (backup first if file is important :-)
[05:20] <b1n0ry> gord_: nope, and i agree it's vague, but that's all the information it gives me. this is a standard iP4HT/1GB with DVD+/-R/W and nVidia graphics card
[05:20] <shuveb> Xenguy, yeah.. ;)
[05:20] <thomasamoht> b1n0ry i tried installing ATi drivers one time, my advice is to be careful, its really easy to mess u X
[05:20] <intelikey> errr s/rclf/cr,lf/
[05:20] <livinded> http://pastebin.com/425162
[05:21] <rabeldable> mysql:  what is the weird pipe symbol character that I see in some sql statements
[05:21] <b1n0ry> thomasamoht i'm not installing ATI drivers, i'm just trying to get the LiveCD to boot. i don't have an ATI card.
[05:21] <livinded> thats what it gives
[05:21] <thomasamoht> oooooohhh
[05:21] <MarcN> rabeldable: example?
[05:21] <rabeldable> it looks like a pipe, but resembles a lowercase l both upsidedown and right side up
[05:21] <rabeldable> l
[05:21] <thomasamoht> it doesn't work with your video?
[05:21] <Xenguy> shuveb: you actually press the keys, for Ctrl-V etc., yes?
[05:21] <gord_> are you sure your cd isn't a bit messed up? it sounds like a pritty solid machine for ubuntu to run on
[05:21] <MarcN> rabeldable: I've not seen that.  paste and example.
[05:21] <rabeldable> ok... nevermind it is a lowercase l
[05:22] <b1n0ry> thomasamoht i don't know what it doesn't work with. it starts going fine then gives me a red screen that says that it failed "Entering Preinstalled Session"
[05:22] <rabeldable> it just looks weird.. i've never seen a lowercase l with hooks like a j
[05:22] <thomasamoht> huh
[05:22] <rabeldable> ok new question.
[05:22] <livinded> MarcN: http://pastebin.com/425162
[05:22] <shuveb> Xenguy, oh, ok - im no power user of vi
[05:22] <b1n0ry> gord_: on the screen that came up with the choice of next step, one of the steps was to verify the cd media. ran that, and it tested fine. also checked the hashes.
[05:22] <Xenguy> shuveb: is it not working?
[05:22] <rabeldable> what does a lowercase l do when you add it to one of your column names like this  l.column_name
[05:23] <MarcN> livinded: don't know.
[05:23] <Xenguy> shuveb: actually, instead of typing the 2 Ctrl-etc things, you can just press the Enter key :-)
[05:23] <codin> hi
[05:23] <Xenguy> shuveb: that will reproduce the ^M
[05:23] <MarcN> rabeldable: nothing special, just telling which table to use.
[05:23] <codin> I use a live cd, how can I become root ?
[05:24] <shuveb> Xenguy, oh yeah, that would be "\n"
[05:24] <Xenguy> shuveb: OK, but that shouldn't be necessary for this search and replace
[05:24] <robw> codin, sudo bash
[05:24] <shuveb> Xenguy, yeah i guess
[05:24] <codin> robw, thanks
[05:24] <robw> nap
[05:24] <Xenguy> shuveb: is it working at all ?
[05:24] <rabeldable> livinded:  try to run the dos2unix command at the command line
[05:25] <shuveb> well i ran dos2unix first so i cant try it :(
[05:25] <MarcN> rabeldable:  something like this;    select employee.name, jobcodes.title from employee, jobcodes where employee.surname = 'Smith';
[05:25] <thomasamoht> anybody know if i can define actions for buttons i press on my ati all in wonder remote? the remote works as a pointer, and volume control works, the launch buttons work for internet etc. but i want to configure the A-F buttons to run other programs. Anybody know of anything that could help me?
[05:25] <rabeldable> I've seen this prob before when trying to install and setup some stuff
[05:25] <b1n0ry> if you like, i could probably borrow the wife's digital camera and take a video or picture of what's happening
[05:25] <livinded> rabeldable: command not found
[05:25] <rabeldable> great
[05:25] <MarcN> rabeldable: well that is bogus SQL, but you get the idea?
[05:25] <rabeldable> do you have vi and do you know how to use it?
[05:25] <shuveb> but i've noted ur point
[05:26] <livinded> rabeldable: me?
[05:26] <rabeldable> MarcN: bogus as in wrong?... the code works.
[05:26] <rabeldable> I just can't figure out what its doing
[05:26] <intelikey> shuveb what are you having markup trubble in ?
[05:26] <codin> can I temporarely install software if I use the livecd ?
[05:26] <Xenguy> shuveb: ok, it you need clarification though, just ask
[05:26] <rabeldable> I think it may have something to do with limiting the amount of queries or special characters or something
[05:26] <codin> I need a serial line terminal: minicom
[05:26] <Xenguy> s/it/if
[05:26] <thomasamoht> ATI remote help? anybody have any experience with this?
[05:27] <shuveb> Xenguy, yeah, and thanks
[05:27] <rabeldable> yeah, livended.. do you know how to use vi?
[05:27] <rabeldable> you can  replace everything with vi
[05:27] <MarcN> rabeldable: but not what i intended,  select employee.name, jobcode.title from employee, jobcodes where employee.name='Smith' and employee.jobid = jobcode.jobid;  is closer to give a name and title for all people named 'smith'
[05:27] <b1n0ry> gord_ or thomasamoht any ideas?
[05:28] <thomasamoht> sorry man, i've never seen that before.
[05:28] <rabeldable> thats assuming that it has M$ style line breaks and such
[05:28] <[linner] > SEJeff:  geez louise... this takes forever!!!
[05:28] <thomasamoht> there is a chance that your cd is messed.
[05:28] <SEJeff> [linner] : what?
[05:28] <wham> Hey there, I am kind of new to Ubuntu, and I can't find where the Firefox options thing is. I want to clear cookies, cache and disable history. It's in the tools menu in Windows.
[05:28] <adri_> hey guys
[05:28] <codin> use dos2unix to convert ^M to linux eof style
[05:28] <blank> I'm installing ubuntu now
[05:28] <MarcN> wham: it would be in the firefox menus
[05:28] <thomasamoht> wham its in firefox preferences
[05:28] <rabeldable> wham: edit -> preferences
[05:28] <Cindy> is ldap can be install in Ubuntu?
[05:28] <guilherme> totem-xine is the first that works ".wma" files, thanks all
[05:29] <blank> should I use ext3 or reiserfs, I've heard better things about reiserfs
[05:29] <b1n0ry> thomasamoht i dunno, i first loaded it up in a virtual pc and it worked ok (except for x doesn't work real well with vpc) so i booted up the whole system. that's when it had the problem. i did the media validation and compared hashes.
[05:29] <intelikey> eof ?   :)
[05:29] <wham> @ Marcn, thomas, rabeldable, thanks!
[05:29] <blank> end of file
[05:29] <Xenguy> blank: ext3 is more stable AFAICT
[05:29] <MarcN> Cindy: apt-cache search openldap
[05:29] <blank> really, and reiserfs is just faster
[05:29] <blank> so ext3 'stable' reiserfs 'faster'
[05:29] <intelikey> yeah i know....  but ^M != EOF    ^M = EOL
[05:29] <Xenguy> blank: reiserfs is just riskier it seems :-)
[05:29] <Agrajag> personally, I've had ext3 partitions die on me left and right
[05:30] <blank> right? so I choose ext3 right now, kay thanks :D
[05:30] <psusi> I'm running reiserfs just fine ;)
[05:30] <Agrajag> but have had zero problems with reiserfs in, oh, 3 or 4 years
[05:30] <rabeldable> reiserfs = faster fsck and bootup filesystem repairs
[05:30] <SEJeff> Agrajag: Bad hardware? ext3 is known to be more stable than reiser
[05:30] <b1n0ry> i've never had a problem with ext3
[05:30] <psusi> reiserfs is also supposedly faster all around
[05:30] <[linner] > SEJeff:  this install... for kubuntu...
[05:30] <Agrajag> SEJeff: I doubt it, exact same hardware
[05:30] <blank> man, comon I need to choose now, should I choose ext3 or reiserfs, just flip a coin
[05:30] <psusi> I'm about ot put that theory to the test
[05:30] <rabeldable> ext3
[05:30] <b1n0ry> ext3
[05:30] <thomasamoht> i havn't ever had a problem with ext3
[05:31] <blank> :D
[05:31] <MarcN> blank: doesn't matter for most people.
[05:31] <psusi> just shrunk my ntfs partition some more... going to make an ext2 partition and copy / to it and try booting off that
[05:31] <blank> they're about the same thing right?
[05:31] <intelikey> i'v never yet had any trubble with reiserfs or ext3   but i still use ext2 a lot alos
[05:31] <intelikey> also
[05:31] <blank> I've heard bad things about one of the ext's
[05:31] <Cindy> MarcN: python-ldap, <--- can i use this as my server ldap?
[05:31] <SEJeff> Agrajag: Use bonnie++ to really stress it. I have killed more reiser volumes than ext3 playing with HD burnin
[05:31] <thomasamoht> if ubuntu guys thought one worked better, they would make it the default. Ext is the default, so i'd use it.
[05:31] <blank> can you guys give me a comparison, reiserfs to ext3
[05:31] <Agrajag> SEJeff: I don't have that hardware any more
[05:31] <MarcN> Cindy: that is just a python library that can talk to an ldap server
[05:31] <rabeldable> unless your running some high available cluster and you need to save all of your writes in a transaction log
[05:31] <Agrajag> this was years ago, I quit using ext after the third time
[05:31] <blank> thomasamoht: thanks
[05:31] <weitzman> Hey folks. I'm pretty new to linux/Ubuntu. I tried to "apt-get install ssh-krb5" but it fails 'cause openssh-client is installed. If I try to uninstall openssh, apt-get wants to remove lots of other stuff that's kind of important
[05:31] <weitzman> Any ideas?
[05:32] <intelikey> blank you'll never notice the differance in them.
[05:32] <Agrajag> then I put reiser on the same partition
[05:32] <blank> loool, I know, that's why I'm asking
[05:32] <rabeldable> you can use both if you want
[05:32] <Cindy> MarcN: oic, now how can i install ldap server to my PC?
[05:32] <MarcN> rabeldable: always use a journaled file system if you can.
[05:32] <weitzman> I noticed ssh-krb5 says it provides packages "ssh" while openssh-client provides "ssh-client"
[05:32] <blank> what do you think I should choose *flips imaginary coin* okay its ext3
[05:32] <blank> thanks guys *goes back to other pc to select that*
[05:32] <MarcN> Cindy: apt-get install slapd
[05:32] <intelikey> ther ya go  :)
[05:32] <b1n0ry> well, i'm going to head out. i got fedora working already, so i'll probably just stick with that. have a good one and thanks for trying to help thomasamoht and gord_
[05:33] <MarcN> Cindy: probably want to also install ldapscripts, ldap-utils, etc
[05:33] <blank> guys, I have 38 gigs for my primary and 1.5 gigs for my swap, that's what it automatically made, is that good?
[05:33] <rabeldable> how much ram?
[05:33] <MarcN> good night boys-n-girls.  Bedtime in my timezone.
[05:33] <rabeldable> ram x 2 = swap
[05:33] <blank> 512, so I guess it's alright since I heard to make it 2-3 times that size
[05:33] <blank> yeah
[05:33] <Cindy> MarcN: yes indeed, where can i find it?
[05:33] <blank> so that's good right? it's only 2 partitions that it made, I dont need any more right
[05:33] <Xenguy> blank: yeh, that's fine, no sweat
[05:33] <blank> qtparted lets you resize partitions right?
[05:34] <blank> thanks bud :)
[05:34] <blank> or what was that program that let you do that
[05:34] <blank> gparted
[05:34] <blank> or something
[05:34] <blank> qeparted
[05:34] <german> Hello!!
[05:34] <gord_> gparted, yea it does
[05:34] <rabeldable> what kind of box will it be blank?
[05:34] <MarcN> Cindy: apt-cache search ldap    give you a list of ldap related packages.  you just need to figure out which ones you may want.
[05:34] <blank> something like that (sorry for multiple lines)
[05:34] <Xenguy> !enter
[05:34] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[05:34] <weitzman> Anyone have any ideas for how I can replace open-ssh with ssh-krb5 without uninstalling ubuntu-base in the process?
[05:34] <blank> rabeldable: desktop
[05:34] <blank> but I'd like to run some server things
[05:34] <intelikey> ha ha ha i'm running 98m ram and no swap   :)
[05:34] <blank> just to try it out
[05:34] <blank> intelikey: lol
[05:34] <thomasamoht> i have 1gig of ram, and my swap has never been over 50 mb, so having a 2gig swap seems pointless to me.
[05:35] <rabeldable> if you think your server things will get out of control one day and log lots of stuff to fill up your partition then split the partitions up
[05:35] <intelikey> and i do run kde in that environment
[05:35] <blank> ...soooo...I'm alright right? primary = 38.8 swap = 1.5
[05:35] <ebrgy> hi
[05:35] <thomasamoht> but those of you with less memory should have a good sized swap
[05:35] <blank> *presses enter on other pc*
[05:35] <SEJeff> thomasamoht: I tune the kernel so I get virtually 0 swap. set vm.swappiness=10 in /etc/sysctl.conf
[05:35] <Cindy> MarcN: thanks once again, i will examine it
[05:35] <dooglus> weitzman: you can't have ssh-krb5 and ubuntu-base installed at the same time
[05:36] <thomasamoht> i don't want to break things jeff, i'm happy ;)
[05:36] <dooglus> weitzman: ubuntu-base depends on openssh-client, which conflicts with ssh-krb5
[05:36] <dooglus> weitzman: however, removing ubuntu-base isn't a bad thing to do
[05:36] <SEJeff> thomasamoht: echo 10 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness won't break anything
[05:36] <SEJeff> thomasamoht: And you can set it back to default by replacing 10 with 60
[05:36] <intelikey> i always remove ubuntu base anyway....
[05:36] <weitzman> dooglus, what does ununtu-base do, exactly?
[05:36] <psusi> SEJeff, even with a high swappiness though, the kernel doesn't swap unless ram is rather low... at least for me...
[05:37] <LathropWells> thomasamoht, - google "linux swappiness" - i think you will like how adjustable it can be
[05:37] <thomasamoht> meh swap is good to have just in case anyways
[05:37] <weitzman> dooglus, it has an important sounding name, at least ;)
[05:37] <thomasamoht> if i ever do any video encoding again
[05:37] <P8ntKid> How to i start a .sh file?
[05:37] <SEJeff> psusi: That is correct, but I like it to swap the very least amount possible without making the system unusable when it really needs to. That is why 10 is a good number
[05:37] <rabeldable> I like disabling swap it make web servers so much faster, no disk
[05:37] <SEJeff> P8ntKid: bash filename.sh
[05:37] <intelikey> P8ntKid . file.sh
[05:37] <psusi> SEJeff, but when ram is low, it is good to free some up by swapping out junk that isn't needed
[05:38] <dooglus> weitzman: alternatively you could make a dummy packag
[05:38] <rabeldable> once I setup a linux box with no disk...
[05:38] <melvztechie> Hello, am having problems with my firefox browser, it always ask for mediaconnectivity wizard even i already finished setting it up. how can i disable the wizard?
[05:38] <dooglus> weitzman: sorry.  ubuntu-base is just a metapackage.  it keeps things installed.
[05:38] <SEJeff> psusi: Not on a server, it makes everything grind to a halt
[05:38] <thomasamoht> with over 1gig of ram though, its hard to fill.
[05:38] <rabeldable> only ram and a CDROM with a custom linux OS  to boot from
[05:38] <intelikey> if you want a secondary shell use sh/bash if you want to exec, it in the present use .
[05:38] <thomasamoht> fully loaded, gnome is just over 200MB for me
[05:38] <P8ntKid> SEJeff: Thanks
[05:38] <rabeldable> that box was faster than one with a disk
[05:39] <thomasamoht> harddrives are slow
[05:39] <thomasamoht> only like 133mb/s
[05:39] <SEJeff> intelikey: He was asking how to execute it. If the file doesn't have executable permissions, ./script.sh will give an error from bash
[05:39] <dooglus> weitzman: if you "dpkg -L ubuntu-base" you'll see the actual contents of the package - ie. not a lot
[05:39] <psusi> dangit, where's the option that makes mke2fs decide between ext2/3?
[05:39] <SEJeff> intelikey: bash script.sh will always work
[05:39] <Cindy> MarcN:  everything is broken packages....:(
[05:40] <weitzman> dooglus, Thanks for your help. Do you know if there's some way to manually remove a dependency you don't really need?
[05:40] <Agrajag> psusi: -j
[05:40] <psusi> ok, so just omit that and it will be ext2?
[05:40] <Agrajag> yes
[05:40] <intelikey> SEJeff i didn't say anything about ./blah   i said . file.sh   thank you.
[05:40] <weitzman> dooglus, As in, remove from the ubuntu-base metadata
[05:40] <dooglus> weitzman: if it's a dependancy, you really need it, by definition of the word 'dependancy'
[05:40] <KaoticEvil> anyone used alien?
[05:40] <psusi> there we go...
[05:41] <psusi> new filesystem made...
[05:41] <dooglus> weitzman: you can remove ubuntu-base (and ubuntu-standard) - then it's no longer a dependancy, so you can remove it...
[05:41] <LathropWells> kaotic, - yes but only a few times and every time with crossed fingers and held breath
[05:41] <SEJeff> intelikey: and . file.sh is incorrect. . file.sh is the command to source a script and load the functions in memory. The exact same as source file.sh
[05:41] <[linner] > It keeps installing... and installing... and installing..... like the friggin' energizer bunny....
[05:41] <psusi> great thing about using the kernel mapper instead of conventional hard drive devices is you can repartition on the running system ;)
[05:41] <KaoticEvil> Lathiat:  did it work?
[05:41] <[linner] > my god it must be installing the frickin' world on my laptop!
[05:41] <SEJeff> [linner] : Even worse, kde
[05:42] <KaoticEvil> LathropWells even... did it work?
[05:42] <[linner] > SEJeff:  whatcha mean?
[05:42] <thomasamoht> yeh kde is insanely fat
[05:42] <LathropWells> KaoticEvil, - yes (knock-on-wood)
[05:42] <thomasamoht> i <3 xfce :D
[05:42] <[linner] > thomasamoht:  really?  shozbot....
[05:42] <necator> GOD THIS IS SO FRUSTERATING!
[05:42] <german> [linner]  why KDE???
[05:42] <necator> i install prograams.
[05:42] <necator> cant find any trace of where the hell they go
[05:42] <rabeldable> I wouldn't remove anything... just compile source of ssh-krb5, install it in a unique place like /usr/local/ssh-krb5 or something  and set your environment LD_LIBRARY_PATH appropriately when you want to use it
[05:42] <necator> cant figure out the name to make them run in terminal
[05:42] <[linner] > german:  cause i couldn't get plain ubuntu on my system without it hanging at every boot
[05:43] <[linner] > german:  so i decided to install over it
[05:43] <KaoticEvil> ok... well, im only testing this package to see if it will install... i hope is runs...
[05:43] <[linner] > german:  with kubuntu
[05:43] <thomasamoht> eww kubuntu DIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiRT
[05:43] <bonbon> howdy howdy
[05:43] <[linner] > thomasamoht:  err... it's still ubuntu dude
[05:43] <KaoticEvil> hey, i use kubuntu :P
[05:43] <german> thats weird
[05:43] <bonbon> <--- Bonarges/Bonbon/TNTales
[05:43] <thomasamoht> yeh but its kde
[05:43] <intelikey> necator tab completion in the term ?
[05:43] <thomasamoht> kde is dirt
[05:43] <[linner] > thomasamoht:  there are a lot of people who prefer it... you know?
[05:44] <weitzman> dooglus, Thanks man. I've successfully logged into a server using kerberos credentials
[05:44] <necator> is there not a way to get a list of the programs that i got?
[05:44] <bonbon> HiddenWolf, you in here? or Mustard?
[05:44] <thomasamoht> yeah i know, its just eyecandy though. almost all kde programs run in gnome
[05:44] <LathropWells> linner - you can find a bunch of "lighter" options http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Desktops
[05:44] <necator> cuss wtf is this i install somethign it has no icon or no way of telling me where it went so i got to guess and try to run it from terminal.
[05:44] <german> I'm  a Gnome guy!!
[05:44] <bonbon> I was able to fix my error 17
[05:44] <thomasamoht> gnome or xfce if i feel like it
[05:44] <KaoticEvil> thomasamoht:  coming from windows, i think KDE is easier for a new linux user to get used to linux with... its very windows'ish
[05:44] <LathropWells> german - Gnome is great.
[05:45] <KaoticEvil> in terms of LookNFeel
[05:45] <cgcorea> anyone using ubuntu 5.10 in productions servers?
[05:45] <psusi> hrm... cp doesn't have a --exlcude option?
[05:45] <intelikey> necator if you want a list of all the executables try "ls /*bin /usr/*bin | less "
[05:45] <german> Yeah LathropWells
[05:45] <thomasamoht> sorta, i am relatively new to linux, i didn't think it was hard to pick up gnome
[05:45] <rabeldable> MarcN: I think i figured it out
[05:45] <german> Gnome is really amazing!
[05:45] <rabeldable> the l means lowercase
[05:45] <[linner] > LathropWells:  oh okay... maybe if i can just get this running on my laptop... we'll see about the alternatives... cause right now i just want the darned thing running!
[05:45] <KaoticEvil> thomasamoht:  it all comes down to personal preference :)
[05:45] <[linner] > german:  i know... i use it right now on my desktop
[05:45] <SEJeff> necator: dpkg -l in a terminal will show you all of the software installed on your ubuntu machine
[05:46] <thomasamoht> i used to run suse with kde though i admit it looks really nice
[05:46] <psusi> how can I copy all files on a filesystem EXCEPT certain directories?
[05:46] <LathropWells> xfce or gnome can look like Mac, Windows, or the evil haxor box from the movie "war games" - lol
[05:46] <thomasamoht> lol
[05:46] <rabeldable> psusi: use tar with an exclude list
[05:46] <thomasamoht> h4x0r box
[05:46] <psusi> but I don't want to put the files into an archive, I just want to copy
[05:46] <LathropWells> lol - i stile canned spel
[05:46] <thomasamoht> recursive copy with expeptions
[05:47] <thomasamoht> can you do that in terminal
[05:47] <KaoticEvil> wth is linthian?
[05:47] <german> [linner] , I have both KDE and Gnome in my Ubuntu, I prefer Gnome, but i'm running some KDE prgramas like amarok
[05:47] <rabeldable> quickest way is to use tar and untar when you want... or fiddle with pipes to move the files around... but your on your own with that
[05:47] <psusi> thomasamoht, how?  cp doesn't seem to have a --exclude option
[05:47] <necator> but seriously y dont they show how to run the stuff once its installed.
[05:47] <KaoticEvil> lintian*
[05:47] <intelikey> that may not get them all but it will keep you busy for a while,  and if you want to search in /usr/local/*bin  and /usr/share/*bin   and maybe even /usr/X*   there may be more.... necator
[05:47] <thomasamoht> i <3 amarok. but you don't need kde to run it
[05:47] <rabeldable> i havent messed with ubuntu much so the file manager might work just fine from GNOME
[05:48] <[linner] > german:  right on... maybe once this bloated software gets loaded you can help me dump KDE and get GNOME back
[05:48] <SEJeff> psusi: use a pipe with grep -v. functionally, that would work the same as --exclude
[05:48] <thomasamoht> yeah --exclude
[05:48] <thomasamoht> thats what i was thinking of
[05:48] <german> [linner] , yeah!!
[05:48] <[linner] > german:  :) :) :)
[05:48] <psusi> hrm... maybe I'll just use tar... how did you get tar to write to stdout again?
[05:48] <german> [linner] ,  i just didi it a few days ago
[05:48] <rabeldable> or you could put a list of files in a file and run a loop against it copying only the files you have in the list
[05:49] <SEJeff> psusi: tar czvf - directoryname
[05:49] <[linner] > german:  very cool!
[05:49] <[linner] > german:  on a laptop?  a new laptop?
[05:49] <wickedpuppy> necator, if you get the source and compile ... it has readme ... that was how it was done last time ... you can also guess ... for example , firefox's command to run is likely to be "firefox"
[05:49] <psusi> don't need the z since I'll be piping it to a tar x
[05:49] <german> thomasamoht, but amarok runs easier on KDE
[05:49] <german> [linner] , sorry in my pc
[05:49] <Cindy> brb everyone, il try to figure out how can i install my slapd
[05:50] <[linner] > german:  shooot
[05:50] <psusi> tar cf -l --exclude=/var | tar x /mnt, should that work?
[05:50] <necator> so what would be a command for something called beneath-asteel-sky
[05:50] <rabeldable> like this:  for file in`cat file-list`;do cp $file /destination/dir/$file; done
[05:50] <german> but we'll try [linner]  , don't worry
[05:50] <bonbon> could someone tell me the dpkg install command real quick?
[05:50] <necator> i mean wtf? that hard to tell me command when its done installing or make an icon? i been searching for 10 minuts
[05:50] <tielliot> I am having a problem with GNOME On-screen Keyboard!
[05:50] <wickedpuppy> necator, type bene and tab .... you will see something
[05:50] <dooglus> psusi: nearly.
[05:50] <thomasamoht> amarok runs fine in gnome
[05:50] <thomasamoht> its fast, everything works good
[05:50] <bonbon> it's like -i dpkg
[05:51] <bonbon> or something
[05:51] <necator> wickedpuppy all i get is beeping
[05:51] <grodius> how do i play .mov files in linux
[05:51] <german> yeah, thomasamoht but i have some troubles to make it work, :P
[05:51] <wickedpuppy> necator, the app you installed is neneath-asteel-sky ?
[05:51] <thomasamoht> tell grodius about w32 libs somebody
[05:51] <thomasamoht> :)
[05:51] <glyn> hey
[05:51] <necator> beneath-a-steel-sky
[05:51] <thomasamoht> thats unfortunate german
[05:51] <glyn> anyone know where I can find java help?
[05:52] <thomasamoht> sun microsystems site?
[05:52] <thomasamoht> google it
[05:52] <wickedpuppy> necator, i never heard of it before ... links to download it ?
[05:52] <thomasamoht> :)
[05:52] <gord_> if you want beneath a steel sky you might as well just get it from the scummvm site
[05:52] <gord_> www.scummvm.org
[05:52] <necator> i got it thru synaptic
[05:52] <gord_> you need scummvm to run it
[05:52] <necator> along with like 9 other programs that i got no clue where the hell they are
[05:52] <thomasamoht> what is that?
[05:52] <german> you know guys, in 8 minutes it's going to be MY BIRTHDAY (sorry for the caps)
[05:52] <thomasamoht> lol
[05:53] <glyn> cool german
[05:53] <glyn> no channels for java help?
[05:53] <gord_> its an emulator, for old adventure games like monkey island n stuff
[05:53] <Agrajag> necator: you need to run scummvm
[05:53] <Agrajag> you already have that installed
[05:53] <thomasamoht> ahahaha monkey island i used to play that game when i was 4
[05:53] <thomasamoht> on our old 386
[05:53] <german> monkey island was a great game
[05:53] <german> very funny
[05:53] <thomasamoht> and that  loom game
[05:53] <foxgamer> Hi all.
[05:53] <gord_> me too, on my mates amiga. its very good. well worth playing again if you have it
[05:53] <Agrajag> then you need to find the game files for the game itself, and tell scummvm to load it
[05:53] <thomasamoht> anybody play loom?
[05:53] <geppy> I downloaded a TTF font, installed it into ~/.fonts, and GNOME font viewer and Kfontviewer both display it correctly, but in GIMP and OpenOffice (1.1 and 2-beta), it looks just like the default font.  I'm not sure where to go from here.
[05:54] <foxgamer> Is there a way to upgrade to 64 bit without actually re-installing the whole system?
[05:54] <wickedpuppy> necator, scummvm  has a channel in freenode ... go ask them how to run
[05:54] <necator> omg
[05:54] <necator> i cant belive its so complicated to get one program to run
[05:54] <dooglus> psusi: make a list of stuff to exclude in /tmp/exclude, and then:
[05:54] <dooglus> psusi: tar cXf /tmp/exclude - . | (cd ~/tmp/to; tar xf -)
[05:54] <Agrajag> necator: it's not one program
[05:54] <thomasamoht> foxgamer: no there isn't.
[05:54] <thomasamoht> lol
[05:54] <Agrajag> You installed a scummvm image and sucmmvm
[05:54] <german> [linner] , how's the installation going???
[05:54] <necator> so far i been loving everything about this linux
[05:54] <psusi> root@ubuntu:/# tar cf - -l --exclude=/var --exclude=/home/phreak/music/ --exclude=/home/phreak/movies/ / | tar x
[05:54] <tomaj> does anyone know of a color picker that doesnt involve starting up gimp?
[05:55] <bungle> pfffft to abstenace b4 marriage
[05:55] <thomasamoht> i nuked my windows partition cause gnome is that sexah
[05:55] <necator> but like 6 programs ive gotten thru synaptic i cant find them anywhere
[05:55] <psusi> I think that should work if I run it from /mnt
[05:55] <psusi> that should copy everything to /mnt right?  if I run it from there?
[05:55] <wickedpuppy> necator, what are those programs ? stop complaining .. tell us what those programs are
[05:55] <german> hahhaa thomasamoht
[05:55] <thomasamoht> enable universe repository u'll find lots of goodies
[05:55] <foxgamer> thomasamoht: No way at all? That's stoopid.
[05:55] <locomorto> Does anyone have any reccomendations for linux software that makes a photo slideshow?
[05:55] <tomaj> windows is the only way to game with good performance
[05:55] <tomaj> locomorto try openoffice
[05:55] <locomorto> tomaj: thats FUD
[05:55] <dooglus> psusi: you want to exclude /proc and /sys and /dev too
[05:56] <tomaj> locomorot: fud?
[05:56] <wickedpuppy> !fud
[05:56] <ubotu> fud is probably [FUD]  Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. A marketing technique employed by those who do not trust in the merits of their own product. Also Fair Use Day.
[05:56] <tomaj> locomorto: fud?
[05:56] <Agrajag> fear uncertainty and doubt
[05:56] <locomorto> tomaj: Fear Uncertainty Doubt
[05:56] <thomasamoht> tomaj i have an xbox.
[05:56] <psusi> dooglus, they are on different filesystems... I used the -l option to tar to tell it to only tar the one filesystem
[05:56] <dooglus> psusi: fine
[05:56] <locomorto> tomaj: I was looking for something with more control
[05:56] <dooglus> psusi: my mistake
[05:56] <tomaj> locomorto: flash?
[05:56] <intelikey> dooglus yeah probably but i backup /dev    ....
[05:56] <bonbon> question
[05:57] <bonbon> ubotu tar
[05:57] <ubotu> bonbon: Are you smoking crack?
[05:57] <tomaj> lol
[05:57] <psusi> ok... I think it's working
[05:57] <bonbon> ok, lol
[05:57] <tomaj> i heart ubotu
[05:57] <bonbon> ubotu install tar
[05:57] <ubotu> bonbon: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:57] <thomasamoht> tomaj i still use windows on my sisters comp, for the very few things that i can't do in linux.
[05:57] <psusi> tar's moving everything in / to /mnt except for some big files and /var
[05:57] <locomorto> tomaj: and what wpuld I use for the flash file?
[05:57] <bonbon> ubotu tar install
[05:57] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, bonbon
[05:57] <bonbon> damn
[05:57] <wickedpuppy> bonbon, ask us ... stop playing with the bot pls
[05:57] <Agrajag> bonbon: he only responds to triggers
[05:57] <locomorto> to make it that is
[05:57] <ReleaseX> i just installed networkmanager, but it doesn't seem to be working, there's no APs being found
[05:57] <bonbon> ah, ok
[05:57] <tomaj> locomorto: not sure about that, windows maybe lol
[05:57] <bonbon> I just wanted to find some links for how to install automatix
[05:57] <locomorto> :'(
[05:57] <bonbon> instead of bothering people
[05:58] <tomaj> thomasamoht: i like pc gaming so i use windows for it cedega ams the suck
[05:58] <psusi> hehe... I love being able to ctrl-z bg %1 then watch df
[05:58] <theturtl> anyone know of an app for synching ipod music, thats compatible with itunes db?
[05:58] <dooglus> psusi: don't you need to "cd" in there somewhere?
[05:58] <KaoticEvil> does (k)ubuntu have SMP support?
[05:58] <wickedpuppy> bonbon, how to install automatix ? install what ?
[05:58] <blank>  tomaj: you use pc gaming for what
[05:58] <psusi> dooglus, I just ran the command from /mnt
[05:58] <german> hpe everybody here play STARCRAFT
[05:58] <bonbon> automatix is like synaptic
[05:58] <thomasamoht> i havn't been able to install wine or cedega because i'm on a x64bit installation
[05:58] <blank> tomaj: or you use what for pc gaming?
[05:58] <dooglus> psusi: ok, good.
[05:58] <wickedpuppy> bonbon, then use synaptic
[05:58] <thomasamoht> wine won't run in x64 apparently
[05:58] <bonbon> ah, good idea
[05:59] <[linner] > houston.... the kubuntu has ALMOST landed.....
[05:59] <blank> wickedpuppy: hey! :D
[05:59] <dooglus> psusi: but...  "tar x" will extract to absolute pathnames?  or not.
[05:59] <thomasamoht> i used to play starcraft
[05:59] <thomasamoht> but then i realized how gay it was.
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> heya blank :P
[05:59] <thomasamoht> :l
[05:59] <psusi> it seems not
[05:59] <tomaj> blank i used windows to play pc games because i like to play games on my pc
[05:59] <tomaj> does anyone know of a color picker that doesnt involve starting up gimp?
[05:59] <blank> lol me too
[05:59] <dooglus> psusi: "tar: Removing leading `/' from member names" - ok
[05:59] <german> thomasamoht, hahhaa,
[05:59] <psusi> dooglus, aye
[05:59] <[linner] > it got all the way to the login screen then froze :(
[05:59] <psusi> 1.5 gigs copied so far
[05:59] <LathropWells> thomasamoht, - i was reading something about running wine in a chrooted environment.
[05:59] <[linner] > after i entered my login and pass
[05:59] <tomaj> thomasamoht play neverwinter nights
[05:59] <bonbon> i don't seem to have synaptic on my comp :/
[05:59] <tomaj> thomasamoht it ams the leet
[05:59] <tomaj> lol bonbon
[06:00] <wickedpuppy> bonbon, are you using ubuntu ?
[06:00] <thomasamoht> lathropwells i tried that didn't work at all.
[06:00] <[linner] > bonbon of course you do
[06:00] <intelikey> bonbon me either.
[06:00] <tomaj> system > administrator > synaptic
[06:00] <german> [linner] , ewhat login are u using?? Gnome or KDE
[06:00] <tomaj> bonbon system > administrator > synaptic
[06:00] <dooglus> anyone know a website that will tell me the nearest place I can buy cigarettes at 6am?
[06:00] <[linner] > KDE
[06:00] <wickedpuppy> dooglus, ebay
[06:00] <thomasamoht> it wouldn't compile at all even with the chroot
[06:00] <bonbon> i found it, it was hiding :0
[06:00] <bonbon> i just used the terminal
[06:00] <tomaj> dooglus: iwanttodieyoung.com
[06:00] <thomasamoht> 7/11 ?
[06:00] <dooglus> tomaj: it's too late for that!
[06:00] <bonbon> tomaj, thanx
[06:00] <smerch> hi, is motif included in the ubuntu cd? thanks!
[06:00] <LathropWells> thomasamoht, - If you are new to linux subscribe to cedega for a bit. - it is easier to use and you can always go back to regular wine
[06:00] <[linner] > german:  then it loads the desktop, the panel, etc...
[06:01] <[linner] > german:  and then freezes
[06:01] <intelikey> dooglus google.com
[06:01] <psusi> 2 gigs copied
[06:01] <tomaj> dooglus: rushmydeath.com
[06:01] <Shadowpillar> why is the upgrade process trying to remove totem?
[06:01] <thomasamoht> i'll give cedega a try..
[06:01] <tomaj> dooglus do you have to be dificult lol
[06:01] <Shadowpillar> question
[06:01] <tkup> how does one submit a program for inclusion in the ubuntu distro?
[06:01] <thomasamoht> i'm not that new
[06:01] <Shadowpillar> what kernel does breezy use?
[06:01] <tomaj> thomasamoht it sucks
[06:01] <[linner] > german:  now it says KDE is up and running... but it's frozen
[06:01] <wickedpuppy> tkup, #ubuntu-devel
[06:01] <dooglus> tomaj: both domains are free...
[06:01] <tomaj> 2.6.12 shadowpillar
[06:01] <tkup> wickedpuppy, thanks
[06:01] <psusi> Shadowpillar, 2.6.12
[06:01] <[linner] > german:  this sucks major butt
[06:01] <thomasamoht> i used to run suse a while ago
[06:01] <tomaj> lol dooglus you should start a business
[06:02] <malv> where can I find out how to get my wireless chipset working with ubuntu
[06:02] <malv> its a usb rt2500
[06:02] <german> [linner] , what ubuntu 're u running 5.04??
[06:02] <dooglus> tomaj: I'm not sure it would be legal
[06:02] <tomaj> doglus: this is how great ideas start you know, bunch of geeks on irc making jokes
[06:02] <thomasamoht> ooooooooo usb wireless
[06:02] <thomasamoht> toughie
[06:02] <_Dez> Everytime i go to shutdown
[06:02] <_Dez> it logout of my user
[06:02] <_Dez> then goes to root
[06:02] <[linner] > german:  i don't know... i think so.... it's an older disc for sure
[06:02] <tomaj> dooglus you're only providing information about shops that sell ciggies at certain hours
[06:02] <tomaj> dooglus its only information
[06:02] <thomasamoht> yo can anybody explain to me why everytime i boot up, i need to reconfigure my network?
[06:02] <thomasamoht> lol
[06:03] <[linner] > german:  i just downloaded breezy but the thing is i don't know how to get the original ubuntu and now kubuntu off my system
[06:03] <dooglus> tomaj: oh, i see.  I was thinking I would be providing a more general "early death" service
[06:03] <Agrajag> can't you just upgrade from the CD?
[06:03] <Shadowpillar> what kernel does breezy use?
[06:03] <psusi> [linner] , just install breezy over them
[06:03] <thomasamoht> linner just partition the disks you installed them on
[06:03] <psusi> Shadowline, two people answered you already... 2.6.12
[06:03] <tomaj> dooglus: well that can be for members only you could start an assasination site
[06:03] <dooglus> tomaj: assisting the suicidal.  problem is, the only word-of-mouth advertising you get is from customers who you failed
[06:03] <intelikey> init 6  is  finishing without halt _Dez    but i have no clue why.
[06:03] <[linner] > thomasamoht:  I did... but i have multiple choices at the GRUB loader
[06:03] <tomaj> dooglus then also get assasinatemyself.com and link to it too
[06:03] <[linner] > thomasamoht:  it doesn't look like it deleted the previous version
[06:04] <_Dez> intelikey mine uses init 2
[06:04] <german> [linner] , thomasamoht is right, then format you disk
[06:04] <tomaj> dooglus: hahahahahaha you could force them to put you in their will
[06:04] <tomaj> and then tip the media of your own services
[06:04] <Shadowpillar> psusi: okay
[06:04] <Shadowpillar> psusi: and it's shadowpillar
[06:04] <opnsrcsft> hey all
[06:04] <psusi> ahh goody, tar copied 4.8 gigs for me
[06:04] <thomasamoht> linner, unless you have a partition on the disk you want to keep, completely nuke the disk, and it will write over grub
[06:04] <intelikey> not when you shut down _Dez
[06:04] <[linner] > german:  isn't that what it does automatically after it partitioins?
[06:04] <SPCcrow> what is a good program for watching Divx videos on ubuntu?
[06:04] <[linner] > partitions
[06:04] <opnsrcsft> wow, big channel
[06:04] <thomasamoht> SPCcrow get xine
[06:04] <[linner] > thomasamoht:  I do... i have windows on the other side that I use for work
[06:04] <thomasamoht> xine is the shit.
[06:04] <tomaj> dooglus: i can tell bob2 isnt here because he would have kicked us long ago for this convo
[06:04] <[linner] > thomasamoht:  so that has to stay
[06:04] <Shadowpillar> psusi: any reason why ubuntu keeps avoiding downloading it from cd?
[06:04] <psusi> it looks like it ignored my --exclude though
[06:04] <psusi> annoying...
[06:05] <_Dez> only cmd that works correctly is sudo reboot
[06:05] <thomasamoht> umm you could edit the grub config.
[06:05] <tomaj> dooglus: you could tip the media of your services then offer them free service as a thank you
[06:05] <jrsims> is there a way to make Gnome remember window positions?
[06:05] <dooglus> tomaj: not only bob2; any op I should think.
[06:05] <blank> yay I'm done installing everyone! I'm updating right now! :D
[06:05] <[linner] > thomasamoht:  i don't know how to do that... let me burn the new breezy iso and see if you can walk me through it
[06:05] <WBMJ> Ineed some help
[06:05] <[linner] > blank:  consider yourself lucky my friend
[06:05] <tomaj> dooglus: good point but ive only felt the wrath of bob2
[06:05] <LathropWells> xine, ogle,mplayer, xmms, and my favorite basic player VLC   videolan
[06:05] <blank> :) :) :)
[06:05] <german> [linner] , if you have a windows partition leave it, but format the partition fotr breezy
[06:05] <intelikey> _Dez did you try 'sudo /etc/init.d/halt ' ?
[06:06] <tomaj> speaking of which, does anyone know of a good color picking program that isnt gimp?
[06:06] <[linner] > german:  how do i do that?
[06:06] <thomasamoht> i dunno linner i usually just nuke all my partitions cause all my music/vids/files are backed up onto another computer
[06:06] <blank> I have a whole new HD now! I can install like...all these things! :D :D :D
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> [linner] , you didn't install the linux on ya computer ... did you ?
[06:06] <dooglus> tomaj: for picking colours off the screen like an eyedropper tool?
[06:06] <psusi> well, off I go to boot off the new ext2 partition and see how fast it is compared to resiserfs
[06:06] <[linner] > wickedpuppy:  yeah i did...
[06:06] <tomaj> dooglus no just picking a color from the range and it giving me the hex of it for webdesigning
[06:06] <[linner] > wickedpuppy:  on a second partition
[06:06] <blank> hey isn't there a window manager/theme that is run by OpenGL?
[06:06] <thomasamoht> ext3 you mean?
[06:06] <_Dez> still does to root shell intelikey
[06:06] <[linner] > thomasamoht:  yes
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> [linner] , you did ? then the process is still the same ...
[06:06] <thomasamoht> don't install the root onto an ext2.
[06:07] <tomaj> blank yes there is let me get the link
[06:07] <german> [linner] , you sould need a swap partition too (ask abput that, i have one, but don know in a laptop)
[06:07] <[linner] > wickedpuppy:  what do you mean?
[06:07] <intelikey> thomasamoht and why not?
[06:07] <[linner] > german:  i had a swap partition
[06:07] <tomaj> well blank it uses the gpu only pretty much
[06:07] <[linner] > german:  actually still do
[06:07] <thomasamoht> because its not journalled
[06:07] <[linner] > thomasamoht:  huh?
[06:08] <tomaj> blank http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:M4e-wHfL0_8J:www.enlightenment.org/+enlightenment&hl=en
[06:08] <thomasamoht> if you shut it off wrong/power outage, there is no recovery method
[06:08] <wickedpuppy> [linner] , back up everything ... and install brezzy over the old linux .. and put back ya data .. simple
[06:08] <tomaj> blank enlightenment.org doesnt seem to work for me
[06:08] <tomaj> blank it's still in early stages though
[06:08] <thechitowncubs> my capture card seems to be supported by tvtime but I can't tell if its working properly, what can I look at to see log messages from it?
[06:08] <thechitowncubs> its an SAA7134 decoder
[06:08] <[linner] > wickedpuppy:  back up everything?  on windows???  that partition shouldn't be touched so there should be any back up necessary
[06:08] <blank> tomaj: oh okay thanks :)
[06:08] <[linner] > wickedpuppy:  it's only the linux part that i've got a problem with... AGAIN!
[06:08] <intelikey> no but you probably don't want to recover the 49% of that file you were saving anyway.....
[06:09] <wickedpuppy> [linner] , then install breezy over the second partition ...
[06:09] <SPCcrow> does gmplayer do divx?
[06:09] <german> haha
[06:09] <LathropWells> thechitown - hi, - having a struggle with a saa7133 card here.
[06:09] <thomasamoht> all mplayer does divx
[06:09] <SPCcrow> cool
[06:09] <thomasamoht> but mplayer is messy
[06:09] <thomasamoht> xine is good trust me
[06:09] <thomasamoht> k or don't listen to me..
[06:09] <thomasamoht> :l
[06:09] <rabeldable> anyone know of a media player that will search through the internet for people streaming music?
[06:09] <dooglus> tomaj: what about "kcoloredit - a color palette editor and color picker for KDE" ?
[06:10] <thomasamoht> search the internet...
[06:10] <tomaj> thanx dooglus i'll try it
[06:10] <bonbon> rabeldable,  it's called live365.com
[06:10] <bonbon> internet radio dude :)
[06:10] <El-Presidente> hello, I have setup postfix with courier imap and pop3 however when I use an email client to send an email I get any email back saying it could not be delivered, however if I telnet to the smtp server on my server I can send mail.. any ideas?
[06:10] <[linner] > if this keeps up, i'm going to have to try suse
[06:10] <german> [linner] , there is an option to format the partition, then it should work (I installed my ubuntu 4 times)
[06:10] <dooglus> thomasamoht: messy?  what do you mean?
[06:10] <intelikey> yes i like kcoloredit.
[06:10] <thomasamoht> rabelable try shoutcast. its good.
[06:10] <rabeldable> linner... whats wrong?
[06:10] <[linner] > german:  i thought i chose that the lst time
[06:10] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, what have you found out?
[06:10] <thomasamoht> mplayer is dirty man.
[06:10] <rabeldable> shoutcast runs on linux?
[06:10] <[linner] > rabeldable:  more like what ISN'T wrong
[06:10] <rabeldable> hehe
[06:10] <bonbon> i've started using itunes in windows for subscribing to podcasts
[06:10] <thomasamoht> shoutcast runs in lots of music programs
[06:11] <rabeldable> oh I cc
[06:11] <[linner] > rabeldable:  kubuntu freezes everytime i login
[06:11] <thomasamoht> bonbon download iPodder
[06:11] <bonbon> oooh
[06:11] <thomasamoht> u'll like that.
[06:11] <bonbon> kk
[06:11] <blank> http://tyr_7be.tripod.com/ second picture, is that beagle running on ubuntu?
[06:11] <rabeldable> what kind of system is it linner?
[06:11] <bonbon> I am quite enamoured with itunes
[06:11] <[linner] > rabeldable:  i couldn't get ubuntu base to even get to a login point... so i tried to install kubuntu
[06:11] <thomasamoht> itunes is gay.
[06:11] <bonbon> is that one i can apt-get?
[06:11] <thomasamoht> amarok will manage ur ipod
[06:11] <bonbon> well, xmms doesn't work well
[06:12] <thomasamoht> bonbon. use amarok.
[06:12] <skalpel> can someone tell me the keyboard shortcut to change my screen resolution?
[06:12] <thomasamoht> :
[06:12] <thomasamoht> :)
[06:12] <bonbon> and I don't have an IPOD i have MuVo from Creative
[06:12] <LathropWells> thechitowncubs, - the module loads and i can configure different switches for it to load with but nothing plays
[06:12] <thomasamoht> OOOOOOOOOOOOOo bonbon
[06:12] <[linner] > rabeldable:  READY?  It's a Compaq v2000z with an AMD Turion 64, 2 GB Ram with a Broadcom WLAN and ATI 200M video card
[06:12] <thomasamoht> i have a creative zen micro
[06:12] <thomasamoht> :)
[06:12] <thomasamoht> download gnomad2
[06:12] <bonbon> kewl, I'm too poor atm
[06:12] <opnsrcsft> how do I change the default font size for Ubuntu?
[06:12] <opnsrcsft> I just installed it
[06:12] <thomasamoht> or the other one
[06:12] <intelikey> somebody said beep music player
[06:12] <bonbon> would like to try a zen micro
[06:12] <[linner] > rabeldable:  all the no-no's ... that one shouldn't have when trying to load linux
[06:12] <opnsrcsft> and it's way too small
[06:12] <thomasamoht> bon bon they are nice.
[06:13] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, what is the module, is it built in ubuntu?
[06:13] <rabeldable> what kind of monitor?
[06:13] <bonbon> I wish my video card supported resolutions highter than 1024
[06:13] <LathropWells> thechitowncubs, - i got the module from bytesex.com site
[06:13] <thomasamoht> lol!
[06:13] <[linner] > rabeldable:  it's a laptop... so it's a flat panel
[06:13] <rabeldable> i just got ubuntu to run on a new toshiba M65-S9065 laptop...
[06:13] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, alright
[06:13] <opnsrcsft> ????
[06:13] <opnsrcsft> 17 inch
[06:13] <LathropWells> binary
[06:13] <Myrtti> bonbon: your video card or your screen?
[06:13] <opnsrcsft> but everything is so small
[06:13] <opnsrcsft> How do i change it?
[06:14] <thomasamoht> are you running gnome?
[06:14] <thomasamoht> go to preferences
[06:14] <RedRose> if i want to delete a bunch of files from my system, would it be rm -rf /<here>*
[06:14] <bonbon> Myrtti,  I can't get is to run in a larger size
[06:14] <RedRose> ?
[06:14] <thomasamoht> then screen resolution
[06:14] <bonbon> the slider won't go past 1024
[06:14] <Myrtti> RedRose: NO!
[06:14] <opnsrcsft> uhm....
[06:14] <bonbon> it is a laptop though, 15-inch screen
[06:14] <skalpel> does anyone know the refresh rates for an ic power 19" flat screen monitor? i cannot find it anywhere on the net
[06:14] <rabeldable> linner:  try this link I wrote some documentation for what I had to do to get my laptop to work with Xorg.
[06:14] <RedRose> Myrtti:Lol, i ment here as in file
[06:14] <rabeldable> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=476609&postcount=112
[06:14] <RedRose> but what do you suggest?
[06:14] <thomasamoht> i'm runnint at 1280x1024
[06:14] <opnsrcsft> actually I found font
[06:14] <opnsrcsft> thanks
[06:14] <opnsrcsft> It's under system
[06:14] <opnsrcsft> thanks
[06:14] <Myrtti> be careful what ever you do
[06:14] <blank> can beagle run on ubuntu?
[06:14] <thomasamoht> o
[06:14] <thomasamoht> no prob
[06:14] <[linner] > rabeldable:  i'll try anything at this point... let me go take a look
[06:14] <thomasamoht> beagle..
[06:15] <Myrtti> brb
[06:15] <RedRose> Myrtti:Ok, I'll Admit it, I did that and it crashed, caught it, but not before it ate the init.d
[06:15] <opnsrcsft> There we go
[06:15] <opnsrcsft> Now I need to figure how to configure Xchat
[06:15] <bonbon> does anyone know a site that can tell me how to properly mount partitions?
[06:15] <thomasamoht> xchat doesn't take any configureing man
[06:15] <thomasamoht> :l
[06:15] <bonbon> like I made a big partition
[06:15] <Myrtti> RedRose: now what exactly are you trying to delete
[06:16] <bonbon> to share media files between windows and linux
[06:16] <skalpel> can someone tell me where 'vertrefresh' and horizsync' go in my xorg.conf file?
[06:16] <thomasamoht> bonbon
[06:16] <bonbon> and I don't remember how to mount
[06:16] <thomasamoht> join #mount
[06:16] <LathropWells> thechitowncubs - if you have any inspiration let me know. i am thinking an external tuner would have better reception and hauppage seems to be best supported.
[06:16] <bonbon> gracias
[06:16] <RedRose> libssh
[06:16] <german> skalpel, let me take a look
[06:16] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, alright.
[06:16] <thomasamoht> bonbon #mount
[06:16] <Myrtti> why?
[06:16] <thomasamoht> now
[06:16] <opnsrcsft> :(
[06:16] <opnsrcsft> So I can't increase font size on Xchat?
[06:16] <opnsrcsft> it has to stay small?
[06:16] <tomaj> dooglus that was exactly what i was looking for thanx heaps
[06:16] <[linner] > rabeldable:  very impressive
[06:16] <RedRose> cause there's a conflict in hydra, so i want to purge all the files, then reinstall it
[06:16] <Myrtti> don't do it that way
[06:17] <rabeldable> i took me all night with trying many different configs to get it to work
[06:17] <[linner] > rabeldable:  so... i'll try it again... i'll write over everything with breezy... have to burn the ISO... will you be on for a while?
[06:17] <RedRose> how would i delete files that are scattered all around like that?
[06:17] <rabeldable> but i'm using it now and it works great
[06:17] <intelikey> skalpel if you use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '  it will put them in the correct place
[06:17] <[linner] > rabeldable:  unfortunately, i don't have that luxury tonight... i have to work in the morning :(
[06:17] <Myrtti> I need more coffee...
[06:17] <rabeldable> probably not
[06:17] <[linner] > rabeldable:  what wlan do you have?
[06:17] <skalpel> intelikey: thank you
[06:17] <malv> well, had to hack one line in the source code, but I got the usb wireless driver to compile
[06:17] <RedRose> Myrtti:LOL
[06:17] <rabeldable> email me: rabeldable@gmail.com
[06:17] <malv> this is a great day for mankind
[06:17] <intelikey> skalpel np
[06:17] <RedRose> Myrtti:Do You know any way?
[06:18] <tomaj> rabeldable: are you that desperate to meet people?
[06:18] <[linner] > rabeldable:  you're a dear... thank you so much!
[06:18] <Myrtti> RedRose: yup, but that might result in dependency problems
[06:18] <[linner] > tomaj:  easy... he's helping me
[06:18] <tomaj> linner: humor
[06:18] <[linner] > tomaj:  is that what that was??? *grin*
[06:18] <opnsrcsft> uhm... no fonts on X-chat
[06:18] <blank> anyone know any good 'milky white' themes for gnome?\
[06:18] <rabeldable> oh yeah i'm a regular irc whore
[06:18] <RedRose> ok, what if it's not a file like that, but let's say a log file
[06:18] <[linner] > rabeldable:  heheheeh...
[06:18] <skalpel> how much is 256mb in kb?
[06:19] <RedRose> just in general how would i delete a bunch of files like that?
[06:19] <[linner] > by the way rabeldable... i called you dear because I'm a girl :)  so don't take offense :)
[06:19] <rabeldable> i don't know what type of wlan card I have, I think its intel but i have to check and i'm in the middle of some other things
[06:19] <blank> does beagle the search thing run on ubuntu, I mean, can it
[06:19] <Myrtti> well with logfiles you wouldn't do it with apt-get remove --purge <program>
[06:19] <RedRose> i know...
[06:19] <[linner] > rabeldable:  that's ok... mine is a big no-no linux card... broadcom :(
[06:19] <RedRose> i know about apt-get --purge...
[06:19] <rabeldable> no problem...
[06:19] <RedRose> but i am talking about if there wasn't apt
[06:19] <cnoles> I can't get o the net from ubuntu
[06:19] <shadowlands> greetings world, can anyone anwser a sound related question on ubuntu please?
[06:20] <rabeldable> it might work linux has came a long way its really good
[06:20] <cnoles> any ideas
[06:20] <Myrtti> try to be more precise with the path to the files that you are trying to delete
[06:20] <Myrtti> with rm -rf
[06:20] <dooglus> tomaj: did you see the colour selector in 'inkscape'?  that's quite nice too
[06:20] <german> skalpel, Section "Monitor"
[06:20] <german> 	Identifier	"SyncMaster"
[06:20] <german> 	Option		"DPMS"
[06:20] <german> 	VertRefresh 	50-160
[06:20] <german> 	HorizSync 	30-70
[06:20] <german> EndSection
[06:20] <RedRose> yeah, i'vve learned that
[06:20] <garyc> hello folks
[06:20] <Myrtti> thank you
[06:20] <_Dez> im running server shell how do i get it to load startx
[06:20] <_Dez> when it boots
[06:20] <Myrtti> try pastebin next time
[06:20] <RedRose> i'm reinstalling my system now
[06:20] <garyc> I am configuring my router
[06:20] <opnsrcsft> How do I make Ubuntu support a higher refresh rate
[06:20] <concept10> anyone experience 100% CPU spikes when browsing flash sites in firefox?
[06:20] <opnsrcsft> it only supports 60
[06:20] <Myrtti> ubotu, tell opnsrcsft about xorg
[06:21] <gord_> 100% cpu spiking isn't anything to be worried about
[06:21] <tomaj> dooglus: i dont use inkscape on linux
[06:21] <dooglus> tomaj: ok
[06:21] <Myrtti> <3 inkscape
[06:21] <german> sorry i can't help you [linner] 
[06:21] <opnsrcsft> where do I get Xorg?
[06:21] <cnoles> can I get some networking help? I am unable to ping my router (or do much of any thing else  :{(}
[06:22] <tomaj> yeah inkscape is leet i just use in on windows because i have photoshop in windows
[06:22] <shadowlands> hey cnoles, whats the ip#
[06:22] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, HOLY SHIT
[06:22] <tomaj> opnsrcsft its on your computer already if you use ubuntu
[06:22] <cnoles> ip of?
[06:22] <dooglus> opnsrcsft: use 'apt-get' or 'synaptic' to get 'xserver-xorg'
[06:22] <cnoles> the router
[06:22] <garyc> german, I am configuring my router to do ftp port 20 - can you help
[06:22] <cnoles> 192.168.1.1
[06:22] <LathropWells> cnoles - what type of connection? what type of connection hardware?
[06:22] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, it f'ing works, i got my camera plugged in through composite
[06:22] <opnsrcsft> thanks
[06:22] <shadowlands> what you want pinged
[06:22] <intelikey> hmmm ub has my cdrom drive fubar'd ..... it wont eject and it wont mount...
[06:23] <cnoles> umm
[06:23] <LathropWells> thechitowncubs - Nice!
[06:23] <german> garyc, I'm sorry I can't but someone here must know
[06:23] <cnoles> 3c0m nic ...network everywhere router (linksys)
[06:23] <rabeldable> what kind of router garyc?
[06:23] <shadowlands> cnoles, you realise thet the 192 series is on your local network and not the www
[06:23] <cnoles> yes
[06:23] <[linner] > german:  no dear... it
[06:24] <[linner] > german:  it's fine... really... i've been having these problems since i was first introduced to Ubuntu
[06:24] <garyc> rabeldable, Linksys
[06:24] <DR_K13> lol inst
[06:24] <shadowlands> how many machines do you have on your lan?
[06:24] <LathropWells> thechitowncubs - did you find a helpful HowTo"?
[06:24] <cnoles> but I cannot even ping my network that is the problem. I am on our other computer right now
[06:24] <[linner] > german:  i was hoping that Breezy would fix it.... it hasn't I don't think.  We'll see... I'm burning a new ISO.  Thanks though!
[06:24] <rabeldable> are you trying to ftp to your router? or ftp through your router to some other system?
[06:24] <german> [linner] , keep trying
[06:25] <cnoles> 2
[06:25] <[linner] > german:  oh i will... i believe in the product... and I believe even more in the community!!! :)
[06:25] <cnoles> 2machines on my lan if that was to me
[06:25] <ale8one> hey, has anyone had problems with installing x86-64 dvd iso on dual boot? grub takes forever to boot and ubuntu never loads?
[06:25] <[linner] > german:  my goal is to get rid of windoze all together an run linux.... ubuntu specifically
[06:25] <nalioth> [linner] : howdy
[06:25] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, it worked out of the FRICKING BOX
[06:25] <intelikey> what kind of crap is this? E: Package bc has no installation candidate
[06:25] <thechitowncubs> this is sooooooooooooooo amazing
[06:25] <german> [linner] , yeah, is awesome, thats my goal to!!
[06:25] <blank> anyone know of a program that lets you convert AVI files to DVD format so you can watch them on a dvd player?
[06:26] <LathropWells> thechitowncubs - That is Outstanding! :)
[06:26] <crimsun> intelikey: it's in main
[06:26] <[linner] > nalioth:  hello honey! :)
[06:26] <[linner] > german:  i'm glad to hear it :)
[06:26] <[linner] > nalioth:  what's up dude? :)
[06:26] <german> [linner] , but i'm new to linux (used to run mandrake) so it will be a long journey
[06:27] <german> [linner] , hahahah
[06:27] <garyc> rabeldable, on the port forward page there are two boxes  "blank to blank" like it is a range.  I thought it was just port 20
[06:27] <intelikey> ah yeah and it's got my cd drive fubar'd so no main.....  mehh
[06:27] <[linner] > german:  I'm not used to anything linux... so we're in the journey together!
[06:27] <LathropWells> crimsun AND nalioth a lot of computer setup problems are going to be solved.
[06:27] <nalioth> LathropWells: whose computer?
[06:27] <LathropWells> Hi guys!
[06:27] <german> [linner] , excellent!!
[06:27] <[linner] > german:  :)
[06:27] <rabeldable> ftp is port 21
[06:28] <german> [linner] , cos i don'k know a lot of people here that ru Ubuntu...
[06:28] <skalpel_> can someone tell me what section 'vertrefresh' and 'horozsync' go under in my xorg.conf file?
[06:28] <[linner] > german:  where's "here"?
[06:28] <LathropWells> Can i nalioth "Audit" your professorial level class?
[06:28] <german> [linner] ,  here is Lima-Per!!
[06:28] <LathropWells> ;)
[06:28] <rabeldable> did you try the monitor section? skalpel_
[06:28] <intelikey> ah i finnally got atapi reset...
[06:28] <[linner] > german:  this is the best user group in the world... not exaggerating either... everyone here helps each other
[06:28] <garyc> cnoles, hey I just had to power my router and cable modem down then power up the modem wait then power up the router
[06:29] <[linner] > german:  oh wow!!!  I'm in the USA...
[06:29] <crimsun> skalpel_: Section "Monitor", as rabeldable said
[06:29] <german> [linner] , hope you know where Lima - Peru is
[06:29] <german> [linner] , hahhaa
[06:29] <[linner] > german:  Of course!  Though I don't do well with most geography... I do know where Lima is.
[06:29] <german> [linner] , where in Usa?
[06:29] <nalioth> LathropWells: i'm not following you, perhaps you could explain to me in #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:29] <garyc> cnoles, also I had to push the reset button on the router
[06:29] <cnoles> hmmm.. I am on the windows machinre here and I can see my puter on the dhcp client table
[06:29] <[linner] > german:  California....
[06:30] <cnoles> I did reset the router
[06:30] <LathropWells> nalioth - er - that was a weak try at humor - nvm - Glad you are here.
[06:30] <german> [linner] , it must be beatifull, have you evere traveled yto south america??
[06:30] <intelikey> how much differance in mawk and gawk ?
[06:31] <[linner] > german:  why don't you join #ubuntu-offtopic... we'll talk about it there... ok?
[06:31] <[linner] > german:  they like to stay on topic here
[06:31] <german> [linner] , ok
[06:31] <[linner] > :)
[06:31] <rabeldable> thanks linner
[06:31] <crimsun> intelikey: mawk tends to be smaller & faster
[06:31] <[linner] > rabeldable:  of course :)
[06:32] <intelikey> crimsun at the expence of some functionality ?
[06:32] <crimsun> intelikey: yes, due to compile-time configuration
[06:32] <cnoles> but trying to ping the ubunto box from this machine times out
[06:32] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, THIS IS REALLY COOL
[06:32] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, have you tried installing tvtime?
[06:32] <intelikey> cause i'v got a calculator i wrote in gawk but when it uses mawk it craps out on me...
[06:33] <rabeldable> it probably has something to do with the special characters intelikey
[06:33] <crimsun> intelikey: mawk doesn't support all the gnu extensions to 1003.2
[06:34] <Knelix2> Guys, -
[06:34] <skalpel_> how do i rename a file?
[06:34] <intelikey> yes that would probably be it.
[06:34] <dducko> skalpel, mv
[06:34] <nemik> so has anyone installed skype successfully?
[06:34] <nemik> i get an unmet dependency
[06:34] <rabeldable> you don't rename files in *nix you move them with mv
[06:34] <dducko> skalpel, mv currentname newname
[06:34] <intelikey> skalpel mv file newname
[06:35] <intelikey> rabeldable which in affect only renames them anyway....  :)
[06:36] <wickedpuppy> actually awk seems to have mawk , gawk , nawk .... sed has sed .... weird huh ?
[06:36] <Knelix2> Guys, I've got a small problem here. I am using an Nvidia GForce card with RCA video output... I want it to automatically mirror to the TV output, because I need to use the monitor for something else. Now all text at bootup and shutdown shows up fine on the TV, but at startup, right after all the text, in fact just at the NVIDIA logo, the TV output switches off. What is going on, and how could I remedy this?
[06:37] <DR_K13> bad tv?
[06:37] <Knelix2> DR_K13: I don't think so.
[06:38] <DR_K13> was a joke,  a bad one at that
[06:38] <skalpel_> does anyone happen to know the refresh rates for an ic power 19" flatscreen monitor?
[06:38] <rabeldable> intelikey: true... I suppose someone could setup an alias called rename that actually runs the mv command
[06:38] <Knelix2> It seems an odd coincidence that it stops outputting at the first graphic... oh, ha...
[06:39] <intelikey> funtion rename {mv $* }
[06:39] <wickedpuppy> rabeldable, and you run 'rename file' and the file disappeared ... then how ?
[06:39] <wickedpuppy> eh wait
[06:39] <wickedpuppy> there will be error then
[06:39] <Knelix2> Could this be a limitation of the NVIDIA driver, or what? Should I revert to another driver, or maybe modify driver settings?
[06:41] <intelikey> Knelix2 welcome to linux where you own your software not just rent a license to use it....
[06:41] <rabeldable> well hopefully if you only put one argument the output would be like this:
[06:41] <rabeldable> root@dlap:/tmp# mv file
[06:41] <rabeldable> mv: missing file argument
[06:41] <rabeldable> Try `mv --help' for more information.
[06:41] <Knelix2> intelikey: Heh, so I know.
[06:42] <blank> this happened when I opened an AVI file
[06:42] <Knelix2> But this one does not strike me as so tough of an issue, simply because it DOES output to the TV at startup.
[06:42] <blank> well, it said that I needed plugins
[06:42] <blank> anyone know what plugins i need to play avi files
[06:42] <wickedpuppy> blank, get vlc
[06:42] <blank> package name
[06:42] <blank> ?
[06:43] <wickedpuppy> vlc ?
[06:43] <blank> :)
[06:43] <deFrysk> vlc yes
[06:43] <wickedpuppy> blank, sudo apt-cache search vlc
[06:43] <deFrysk> !info vlc
[06:43] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[06:43] <wickedpuppy> search there first ... or synaptic ...
[06:43] <intelikey> sudo to search ?????
[06:43] <wickedpuppy> no need sudo ?
[06:44] <LathropWells> Knelix - i really know very little about sending output to a TV only that the refresh rate has to be set perfectly or strange things happen. (possibly damaging your TV)
[06:44] <wickedpuppy> normally i use sudo for all apt-*
[06:44] <EdLin> wickedlester, apt-cache doesn't need sudo
[06:44] <deFrysk> wickedpuppy, no need sudo
[06:44] <intelikey> no not to search or show
[06:44] <wickedpuppy> ah i see
[06:44] <intelikey> only need sudo to install or remove
[06:45] <deFrysk> search is not an administrative task
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> hmms .. that means my fingers are good at typing sudo ... not good
[06:46] <derekS> does ubuntu come with a graphical cron wizard?
[06:47] <intelikey> one would certenly expect so
[06:47] <dirkson> Hey all. I'm trying to recompile my kernel and getting a funky error message my nvidia card. (Says it can't load the nvidia module, but I compiled the kernel with all the nvidia modules I could find) Could anyone help me out? :-/
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> there is kcron
[06:47] <dirkson> *error message with my nvidia
[06:47] <Knelix2> hmm.
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> also gcrontab
[06:48] <rabeldable> did you download the nvidia driver from the nvidia website?
[06:48] <Knelix2> Its seems to output fine in terminal mode. It's just X that doesn't show.
[06:48] <dirkson> Hmm....... No. Do I need to? *grin*
[06:48] <solidgroove> how long is ubuntu going to make me use nvidia 7667?
[06:48] <rabeldable> yeah they have an updated one on their webste
[06:48] <rabeldable> you need to download it and read the docs
[06:48] <derekS> wickedpuppy: thanks
[06:49] <rabeldable> nvidia has good linux support
[06:49] <dirkson> Ok. That might help. Any chance you know about how big it is? My internet connection will barf if I try to download anything over about 1 meg. (This is why I need to recompile)
[06:49] <EdLin> solidgroove, until you install the nvidia-legacy packages. :-)
[06:49] <wickedpuppy> np derekS
[06:49] <rabeldable> its like 1 - 5 MB
[06:49] <Knelix2> Newbie Question: I use the terminal, but usually in X. Toi run a new process I just open a new terminal window, but how can you run to processes in terminal mode?
[06:49] <rabeldable> small
[06:49] <solidgroove> EdLin, where can I get nvidia-legacy?
[06:49] <Knelix2> (console mode)
[06:49] <tsume> wow. I didn't realize qemu was faster than vmware for cases of using it for photoshop or photoimpact
[06:49] <tsume> vmware's redraw support just really sucks
[06:49] <rabeldable> nvidia has old stuff on the same site
[06:49] <Knelix2> *two proceses, that is
[06:50] <dirkson> Ok. Looks like I'll be booting into that other OS to download it. Drat. Thanks for the info guys!!
[06:50] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, &
[06:50] <rabeldable> just go to their website and in the search put linux
[06:50] <EdLin> solidgroove, it's in the standard Ubuntu repositories.
[06:50] <tsume> dirkson: Microsoft Windows?
[06:50] <tsume> dirkson: ME? :D
[06:51] <dirkson> Tsume: Micro$ucks Windoze xp. It runs my internet card natively, and will download large files with it
[06:51] <Knelix2> so typing: sudo /home/Knelix/Desktop/gabe/FAH502-Linux.exe & /home/gabe/Desktop/Knelix/BOINC/run_client
[06:51] <Knelix2> Will run both those apps?
[06:51] <dirkson> I need to update to 2.6.13 at least to get good support for my card.
[06:51] <Knelix2> At the same time?
[06:51] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, exe ?
[06:52] <EdLin> solidgroove, linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`-nvidia-legacy and nvidia-glx-legacy
[06:52] <nalioth> Knelix2: one after the other, yes
[06:52] <Xenguy> exactly -- digital restrictions management
[06:52] <Xenguy> ww
[06:52] <intelikey> is there a way to alter the output format of dpkg -l  so that only the package name and not the descriptions are shown ?
[06:52] <nalioth> Knelix2: if your linux is smart enough to run .exe files
[06:52] <Knelix2> wikedpuppy: yes they name it that way, but it's really a UNIX executable.
[06:52] <derekS> does this crontab command make sense: wget -q -O /dev/null \ "some website"   t get it to dl some website
[06:52] <derekS> or load it
[06:52] <derekS> but not dl it
[06:52] <Knelix2> nalioth: It runs fine normally.
[06:52] <derekS> or is there a better way
[06:52] <dirkson> Tsume: Why d'ya' ask?
[06:53] <EdLin> intelikey, maybe you could pipe it through awk using {print $1} or something. (Been a while since I played with AWK)
[06:53] <Knelix2> OK.. to get out of x I press alt-control-F3, but to get back?
[06:53] <intelikey> yeah but it keeps cuting the package names at about 12 chars.
[06:53] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, alt-crtrl-f7
[06:53] <EdLin> intelikey, sorry, I forgot about that...
[06:53] <intelikey> doesn't output the full name
[06:54] <skalpel> is it possible to change my screen resolution in xwindows without knowing my monitors refresh rates, like windows does?
[06:54] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, f1-f6 are terminals... f7 is X
[06:54] <garyc> I think I got it.  Who has an ftp client to test my ftp server?
[06:54] <Knelix2> wickedpuppy: Ah, right, thanks.
[06:54] <dirkson> Anyway, time to reboot and download. Bye all, and thanks
[06:54] <Knelix2> Q: when the terminal tells you you have new mail, is that e-Mail or messages from the system?
[06:55] <garyc> I think I got it.  Who has an ftp client to test my ftp server?
[06:55] <Xenguy> Knelix2: both are email
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, can be both ??
[06:55] <intelikey> Knelix2 system usually when you login
[06:55] <Knelix2> hmm.
[06:56] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, type mail ... and select the number of the mail you wanna read
[06:56] <Knelix2> hmm. ok
[06:56] <garyc> I just setup my router for port forwarding.  Who would like the test it for me?
[06:56] <rabeldable> i'll test
[06:57] <nalioth> Knelix2: that is system mail, usually, use mutt to see it
[06:57] <Zealot87> can someone give me the command that allows me to add resolutions
[06:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Zealot87 about fixres
[06:57] <Knelix2> nalioth, hmm.
[06:57] <garyc> I just setup my router for port forwarding.  Who would like the test my ftp server?
[06:57] <Zealot87> thanks nalioth
[06:57] <rabeldable> whats the IP?
[06:58] <Boobek> hi/udv
[06:58] <blank> wickedpuppy: I searched for vlc, now what
[06:58] <wickedpuppy> wha real root ... not r00t or anything
[06:58] <rabeldable> garyc: IP and 'll test
[06:58] <wickedpuppy> blank, install it and run avi with it
[06:58] <nalioth> garyc: please dont repeat such off topic stuff, we are not #troubleshoot or #test_hardware
[06:58] <garyc> rabeldable, 24.174.170.97
[06:58] <rabeldable> it works
[06:59] <rabeldable> root@dlap:~# ftp 24.174.170.97
[06:59] <rabeldable> Connected to 24.174.170.97.
[06:59] <rabeldable> 220 ProFTPD 1.2.10 Server (Debian) [192.168.1.102] 
[06:59] <rabeldable> Name (24.174.170.97:root):
[06:59] <garyc> rabeldable, 24.174.170.97  username=agora   password=agoramin
[06:59] <rabeldable> login works too
[06:59] <nalioth> rabeldable: please dont paste in here
[07:00] <garyc> rabeldable, thanks
[07:00] <DR_K13> Superkaramba////
[07:00] <rain`> Hi, I have two sticks of memory here, I was wondering how I could tell if they are non-ecc/ecc/unbuffered if I dont have a computer to put them in..
[07:00] <blank> can I also play mp3s with it?
[07:00] <blank> :D
[07:00] <Zealot87> ahh, i missed ubuntu, its been a while
[07:00] <rabeldable> no paste?  where are the rules at? so I don't have to be told what I can and can't do.
[07:00] <wickedpuppy> blank, i think yes ... no idea ... why you wanna play mp3 in movie player ?
[07:01] <DR_K13> lol internets
[07:01] <intelikey> hmmm i was thinking that mc had a mail reader quality about it..... but i don't seem to find it now.
[07:01] <Knelix2> So, wait... I can just use one terminal in say, F1 to run one app, and another in F2 to run another?
[07:02] <intelikey> yes you can
[07:02] <Knelix2> intelikey: Ha! Why didn't you say so-- that'll do just fine!!
[07:02] <nalioth> Knelix2: if you use 'gnu screen' you can run hundreds of terminal apps in f2, or f3
[07:02] <intelikey> and if you like you can enable the higher F# in /etc/inittab
[07:03] <blank> where can I get mplayer
[07:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell blank about mplayer
[07:03] <erirlar> hi, how can i change the permision on a directory to my home user?
[07:03] <intelikey> apt-get install mplayer
[07:03] <Knelix2> nalioth: I don't want to complicate matters... This is just a temporary measure because I need the monitor for my main comp, shose CRT burned out.
[07:03] <intelikey> erirlar permission or ownership ?
[07:04] <erirlar> ownership
[07:04] <intelikey> chown username:usergroup inode
[07:04] <nalioth> Knelix2: screen isn't complicated
[07:04] <Knelix2> nalioth: But thank you for the info... It has been noted. :-)
[07:04] <intelikey> need sudoer permission if you don't already own it erirlar
[07:05] <blank> I have an AMD +2500, should I get mplayer-k6 or mplayer-586
[07:05] <HrdwrBoB> k6
[07:05] <intelikey> only thing that i like about screen it the scroll buffer...
[07:05] <theturtl> sudo passwd
[07:05] <theturtl> ;)
[07:06] <erirlar> intelikey, but how can i make it to be a ownership of erirlar?
[07:06] <blank> !ubotu tell me about ati binary drivers
[07:06] <blank> or not
[07:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell blank about ati
[07:07] <intelikey> erirlar  ' sudo chown username:usergroup inode '  where the words username and usergroup  are "YOU" and inode is the file/directory name.....
[07:07] <blank> thanks nalioth
[07:07] <cyphase> why doesn't audacity play sound in ubuntu?
[07:07] <erirlar> intelikey, thanks :)
[07:07] <blank> hey, I cant find mplayer (so says synaptic), is there a repository I need? In the wiki it says multiverse, but I enabled each one I have
[07:08] <nalioth> blank: it's not "mplayer" it's mplayer-k6
[07:08] <blank> yes, I did that
[07:08] <blank> sudo apt-get install mplayer-k6
[07:09] <DR_K13> huh
[07:09] <kapputu> Hi
[07:09] <cowbud> so for submiting bugs do I go to bugzilla or launchpad?
[07:09] <kapputu> how do I set the workgroup name in Ubuntu?
[07:10] <varsebegdello> hey i just installed ubuntu server, how do i get fluxbox going, i've allready downloaded it
[07:10] <intelikey> is there a good menu-driven cli mail client ?
[07:10] <buckyuser> anyone home?
[07:10] <kapputu> normally this is not silent
[07:10] <blank> I'm trying to get mplayer...please help, the wiki is very vague
[07:10] <wickedpuppy> intelikey, pine or mutt ?
[07:10] <Knelix2> Q: And all terminals will continue to work even while in another terminal or in X?
[07:11] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, if you put the command in background with & yes
[07:11] <varsebegdello> blank what have you done so far?
[07:11] <intelikey> varsebegdello use 'sudo apt-get install fluxbox '   and let dpkg install it for you.
[07:11] <nalioth> blank: use synaptic. search for 'mplayer'
[07:11] <varsebegdello> what about xdm?
[07:11] <intelikey> same
[07:11] <blank> I typed sudo apt-get install mplayer-k6
[07:12] <Knelix2> wickedpuppy: huh? hmm... I didn't do that
[07:12] <blank> I already did the addingrepositorieshowto, so all my repositories are enabled, unless it wants me to have custom ones
[07:12] <intelikey> varsebegdello if you use apt it keeps all the dependancies up to par and installs/configures things for you.
[07:12] <buckyuser> new to this here - trying to configure the network and getting a backend script error
[07:13] <varsebegdello> intelikey, i did that it installed, but i don't have gdm or anything like that, all i have is bare ubuntu, (i've also installed xserver-xorg
[07:13] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, then go back to that terminal and see if its running ?? why you need f3 or f4 btw .. xterm or kterm not good enough ?
[07:13] <blank> somone please help me :( It seems as if I need an extra repository for mplayer
[07:13] <kapputu> how do I access my Windows network?
[07:13] <intelikey> so use startx and see if it works or not
[07:13] <kapputu> do I have to set my workgroup?
[07:13] <blank> kapputu: I'm not sure, but lookup samba
[07:13] <varsebegdello> blank, do you ahve a repostiory that said multiverse
[07:13] <Knelix2> wikedpuppy: But these are distributed computing projects, made to run in the background by default anyway. At least folding@home app seems to be working, acording to top.
[07:13] <wickedpuppy> blank, paste ya sources.list on the pastebin
[07:14] <blank> varsebegdello: Taht's the one I'm trying to add, can you help me?
[07:14] <blank> got a link to pastebin and the address to sources.list ?
[07:14] <varsebegdello> just a seck
[07:14] <blank> sorry, I'm a noob
[07:14] <Knelix2> wickedpuppy: Because I need to output to TV, and only the terminal will do this, not X.
[07:14] <dducko> !paste
[07:14] <ubotu> I guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, if default is background then fine :P
[07:14] <intelikey> !repos
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> blank, /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:14] <blank> where can I find , thanks
[07:15] <blank> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4341
[07:15] <buckyuser> can someone answer a networking question?
[07:15] <dducko> ask away
[07:16] <rabeldable> i was thinking just open a direct chat with person that you paste to
[07:16] <Knelix2> wickedpuppy: OK :-) Just to know- you type the command and then & right after it to run it in the background, right?
[07:16] <blank> wickedpuppy and varsebegdello: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4341
[07:16] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, yes ... but default behaviour is in bg then no need
[07:16] <thomasamoht> cheers bonbon
[07:16] <buckyuser> I am trying toadd a wireless card and I get a backend script error when I go to the network configuration utikity
[07:16] <bonbon> yaay, now i just have to get wine running
[07:16] <Knelix2> ok
[07:16] <bonbon> ty thomasamoht  :D
[07:16] <wickedpuppy> yes blank .. and no there is no extra repo
[07:16] <thomasamoht> night all
[07:17] <blank> wickedpuppy: but then how come I cant find mplayer :(
[07:17] <nalioth> blank: synaptic doesnt return any hits when you search for "mplayer" ?
[07:17] <blank> nope :(
[07:17] <intelikey> just turning on multiverse now.    what is the name of the automatic "uptodate" program in ub ?
[07:18] <jgraham> i'm getting an error with libxaa, this is a fresh install of 5.10 x86-64, and my x server is wanting a version greater than 1.2... any ideas why this is happening?
[07:18] <wickedpuppy> blank, you want extra repo or asking if you have extra repo ?
[07:18] <dducko> and blank watch your caps, should all be in lowwer case
[07:18] <blank> i get mga-vid-source package but that has nothing to do lol
[07:18] <dducko> Mplayer and mplayer are not the same thing
[07:18] <blank> dducko: what caps
[07:19] <intelikey> nalioth know the name of the program that runs automatic updates ?
[07:19] <blank> wickedpuppy: I'm asking if I need an extra repos to be able to get mplayer
[07:19] <dducko> shouldnt, i believe its in the main repos
[07:19] <wickedpuppy> blank, you got universe but no multiverse ...
[07:19] <ronnyzx> join pls on #cagayan
[07:19] <ronnyzx> join pls on #cagayan
[07:19] <ronnyzx> join pls on #cagayan
[07:19] <thechitowncubs> I need some help with audio
[07:19] <ronnyzx> join pls on #cagayan
[07:19] <tritium> ronnyzx, stop it
[07:19] <blank> wickedpuppy: THat's what I mean! how do I add multiverse
[07:19] <wickedpuppy> ....
[07:19] <wickedpuppy> !repositories
[07:19] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[07:19] <ronnyzx> y tirtium
[07:19] <ronnyzx> y tirtium
[07:20] <wickedpuppy> ...
[07:20] <wickedpuppy> bye bye ronnyzx
[07:20] <blueblood> whats wrong with this fsb-line
[07:20] <blueblood> /mysmbserver/blueblood	/media/share	smbfs	credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,dmask=777,fmask=777	0	0
[07:20] <thechitowncubs> I have a capture card with audio out, and i put a dongle from that to my line in, i need some help with setting up the volume
[07:20] <dducko> Bye Bye ronnyzx
[07:20] <nalioth> intelikey: i'm not familaer with it no
[07:20] <rabeldable> !rules
[07:20] <blank> wickedpuppy: I know, I already read that :( but it doesnt talk about multiverse does it
[07:20] <ubotu> rabeldable: Not a clue
[07:20] <ronnyzx> noooooooooo
[07:20] <tritium> ronnyzx, because you're flooding the channel
[07:20] <wickedpuppy> !sources
[07:20] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:20] <ronnyzx> ah ok
[07:20] <intelikey> k
[07:20] <ronnyzx> im so sory titium
[07:20] <varsebegdello> blank, do you know how to add lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:20] <kapputu> how do I enable Windows networking in 5.10?
[07:20] <ronnyzx> im so sory titium
[07:20] <ronnyzx> im so sory titium
[07:20] <wickedpuppy> no wait .. ronnyzx you are spamming as well .. and flooding ...
[07:20] <tritium> ronnyzx, please do stop
[07:21] <dducko> Bye Bye ronnyzx
[07:21] <buckyuser> can someone answer a networking question?
[07:21] <x86i> buckyuser: Go ahead
[07:21] <linuxgeek2> yes tell me buckyuser I will try my best
[07:21] <linuxgeek2> ?
[07:21] <nalioth> buckyuser: if you ask a networking question
[07:21] <ronnyzx> yah
[07:21] <rabeldable> shoot bucky.....
[07:21] <ronnyzx> i wil
[07:21] <ronnyzx> i will
[07:21] <kapputu> how do I enable Windows networking in 5.10?
[07:21] <intelikey> ohhh my i'm lagging really bad now if i say something that doesnt seem to make sense " [Lag 22]   "
[07:21] <blank> varsebegdello: :( nope
[07:21] <buckyuser> trying to get a wireless card working and I get a backend script error when I try
[07:21] <x86i> kapputu: Install Samba
[07:21] <kapputu> it's installed
[07:22] <rabeldable> whats the error?
[07:22] <x86i> kapputu: So then your having issues? what are you trying to do
[07:22] <varsebegdello> blank you'll have to know how t use a console editing program
[07:22] <blank> I use gedit
[07:22] <kapputu> I'm trying to connect to my windows machine
[07:22] <x86i> blank: I recommend JOE, its a great console editor
[07:23] <varsebegdello> hey guys can blank open a file with gedit with sudo super powers?
[07:23] <kapputu> do I need to set the password for samba?
[07:23] <varsebegdello> i prefer vi
[07:23] <blank> varsebegdello: I already have :D
[07:23] <wickedpuppy> varsebegdello, try yourself ... sudo gedit
[07:23] <buckyuser> when I click on the Network settings  it says 'configuration cannot be loaded - there was an error running the backend script'
[07:23] <varsebegdello> ohh
[07:23] <blank> I'm not that stupid lol, I just dont know where to add the lines, can I add them anywhere?
[07:23] <varsebegdello> like i said i prefer vi
[07:23] <x86i> kapputu: Yeah, you need to make sure that Samaba is on the same workgroup as your windows box.
[07:23] <intelikey> yep
[07:24] <rabeldable> who are the bots on this thing?
[07:24] <concept10> is Flashplayer 8 avail for Linux?
[07:24] <x86i> concept10: Not to my knowledge.
[07:24] <wickedpuppy> rabeldable, on what thing ?
[07:24] <blank> what's the sources address again
[07:24] <blank> /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:24] <varsebegdello> --- i'm running on a live cd and i don't want to open another term
[07:24] <wickedpuppy> blank, use tab
[07:24] <varsebegdello> yep
[07:25] <intelikey> well be back after the update....  and the lag is back to normal 2/3 seconds....
[07:25] <varsebegdello> blank listen to wickedpuppy
[07:25] <blank> kay
[07:25] <stevejesus> whats up guys i have a wierd samba problem
[07:25] <blank> can I add the repository apt lines anywhere in my sources.list?
[07:25] <x86i> stevejesus: Whats up?
[07:25] <blank> like, at the end?
[07:26] <varsebegdello> blank ?now do you have the deb httP://blah blah breezy multiverse location?
[07:26] <wickedpuppy> stevejesus, #samba would be more appropriate for ya
[07:26] <kapputu> I can see the windows machine but I cannot see it's contents
[07:26] <varsebegdello> yeah right at the end or in the middle anywhere
[07:26] <blank> no, I already said I dont lol, I need to add it myself
[07:26] <blank> I already have the three multiverse lines
[07:26] <blank> but do I just add them at the end?
[07:26] <kapputu> The folder contents could not be displayed
[07:26] <kapputu> ERROR:: The folder contents could not be displayed
[07:26] <stevejesus> x86i:  when i try and browse my network for some reason i cant see anything but my personal file server.  it prompts me for the password as soon as i open it.  i cant see any of the other machins
[07:26] <kapputu> This is the error I'm getting
[07:26] <x86i> sounds like something in windows
[07:26] <varsebegdello> yeah that will be fine, then run apt-get update and you should be golden
[07:27] <x86i> stevejesus: Is the Samba on the same work group?
[07:27] <blank> nothing about leaving an extra line blank at the end or any of that stuff right
[07:27] <stevejesus> x86i:  well, i cant see the apple machines either...
[07:27] <blank> how can I reload or update or whatever you said
[07:27] <blank> sudo apt-get update?
[07:27] <varsebegdello> stevejesus, check the work group thing
[07:27] <buckyuser> thanks for the help....oh wait....
[07:27] <varsebegdello> blank yes
[07:27] <stevejesus> x86i:  well, i only have one windows machine on my workgroup.  i cant see it either
[07:27] <blank> kay
[07:27] <blank> :D
[07:27] <x86i> stevejesus: That was directed to someone else. are you on the same workgroup
[07:27] <rabeldable> bucky: can you manually setup your interface by adding the appropriate values to the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[07:28] <stevejesus> x86i:  well, i only have one windows machine on my workgroup.  i cant see it either
[07:28] <rabeldable> oh well he left
[07:28] <blank> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[07:28] <blank> I got that at the end
[07:28] <kapputu> stevejesus, I was told to install Samba
[07:28] <blank> does that mean I entered the same line twiece
[07:28] <stevejesus> x86i:  but i should be able to see all workgroups right?  there are 2 of them
[07:28] <bonbon> oy
[07:28] <kapputu> I'm not able to see the shared folders
[07:28] <varsebegdello> blank, hmmmm
[07:28] <Niomi> xorg is using an incredible amount of resources.. right now it's using 916MB of my 1gig of ram.. what can I do?
[07:28] <x86i> stevejesus: Does the windows machine have anything shared? What sort of sharing is enabled? Simple File Sharing in windows?
[07:29] <stevejesus> kapputi:  samba is installed and functional.  i am able to mount nfs, smb and even afp machines so thats not the issue
[07:29] <kapputu> x86i, I'm not able to see my Windows shares either
[07:29] <varsebegdello> blank, past bin it again
[07:29] <kapputu> ERROR:: The folder contents could not be displayed
[07:29] <varsebegdello> -- your sources.list
[07:29] <kapputu> That was the error I got
[07:29] <blank> kay
[07:29] <x86i> kapputu: What kind of sharing is enabled in windows?
[07:29] <stevejesus> x86i:  yes the windows machine is shared.  i can see it from other windows machines and also 2 osx machines and even mount it in "dave" using mac os9
[07:30] <kapputu> x86i, how do I find out?
[07:30] <x86i> stevejesus: Goto Pastebin.org and paste me your samba config
[07:30] <stevejesus> x86i:  but i dont care so much about that machine.  i want to access my roomates windows shares.
[07:30] <ilba7r> I heared there were special ubuntu editions for some of HP notebooks anyone knows where can i find a link on that
[07:30] <stevejesus> x86i:  ok
[07:30] <blank> varsebegdello: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4342
[07:30] <linuxgeek2> !hi
[07:30] <ubotu> hi!
[07:30] <linuxgeek2> !bugger
[07:30] <ubotu> linuxgeek2: Wish i knew
[07:31] <x86i> kapputu: It sounds like something is wrong on the windows end. If you can see the folder, but not its contents.
[07:31] <kapputu> no I can't see the folder
[07:31] <kapputu> I can see the machine
[07:31] <kapputu> Windows is able to see my linux shares
[07:31] <blank> maaaan, I got an error with mplayer when I started it: "New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)
[07:31] <x86i> kapputu: Paste me your samba config as well.
[07:31] <varsebegdello> blank i don't know
[07:31] <stevejesus> x86i:  what is the actually pastbin url.  that one takes me to some spyware junk lol
[07:32] <kapputu> x86i, where do I find it?
[07:32] <kapputu> /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[07:32] <stevejesus> x86i:  this time i will bookmark it:)
[07:32] <x86i> stevejesus: Its pastebin.com sorry
[07:32] <stevejesus> x86i:  thank you
[07:32] <x86i> kapputu: yes
[07:32] <kapputu> what's the url for paste bin?
[07:33] <kapputu> it's been a long time since I was here
[07:33] <x86i> kapputu: www.pastebin.com
[07:33] <varsebegdello> blank, ok ok i figured it out, you have sources open and apt-get update doesn't like that
[07:33] <stevejesus> x86i:  http://pastebin.com/425239
[07:34] <varsebegdello> how do i apt-get xubuntu?
[07:34] <stevejesus> what is xubuntu?
[07:34] <dooglus> varsebegdello: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu"
[07:34] <blank> varsebegdello: how do I fix it
[07:34] <varsebegdello> it is ubuntu with X
[07:34] <dooglus> stevejesus: xubuntu is to XFCE as kununtu is to KDE
[07:34] <tritium> stevejesus, ubuntu with xfce
[07:34] <varsebegdello> do you have gedit running?
[07:34] <varsebegdello> blan
[07:34] <stevejesus> i see
[07:35] <varsebegdello> blank,
[07:35] <kapputu> x86i, http://pastebin.com/425240
[07:35] <stevejesus> varsebegdello:  why dont you just apt-get XFCE?
[07:35] <blank> varsebegdello: I'll start it, yeah
[07:35] <varsebegdello> dooglus, should i be able to apt-get fluxbox
[07:35] <varsebegdello> no stiop it
[07:35] <x86i> stevejesus: Try to access the other machine  with smb://IP
[07:35] <varsebegdello> blank
[07:35] <crimsun> dooglus: (it's xubuntu-desktop)
[07:36] <blank> yes
[07:36] <dooglus> varsebegdello: you need to use 'sudo' before apt-get and 'install' after - but otherwise, sure, why not?
[07:36] <stevejesus> varsebegdello:  yes you can.  and enlightenment and many others.  some require that you uncomment universe and multiverse
[07:36] <dooglus> crimsun: the package it, yes.
[07:36] <varsebegdello> cool
[07:36] <dooglus> s/it/is/
[07:36] <varsebegdello> blank,
[07:36] <varsebegdello> umm
[07:36] <varsebegdello> sorr
[07:36] <varsebegdello> y
[07:37] <x86i> kapputu: Hrm, your config looks fine. you said it CAN see the other machine?
[07:37] <stevejesus> x86i:  from nautilus?  is there a way to show your path in nautilus?  like in konqueror?
[07:37] <dooglus> stevejesus: type control-l
[07:37] <kapputu> x86i, yes
[07:37] <blank> yeah varsebegdello
[07:37] <varsebegdello> save the edited sources.list and close it then run apt-get update agian     *sudo
[07:37] <bonbon> ok, how do i get a partition to show up as a drive on my desktop or places?
[07:37] <kapputu> x86i, also the windows machine can read my linux shares
[07:37] <stevejesus> dooglus:  command not found
[07:37] <bonbon> i tried the "disks" utility under "system" but when i reboot it says "failed to mount partitions"
[07:38] <stevejesus> dooglus:  what will that do?
[07:38] <dooglus> stevejesus: which one?
[07:38] <blank> varsebegdello, without changing sources.list at all? I opened it and havne't changed it
[07:38] <stevejesus> dooglus:  control -l
[07:38] <varsebegdello> you ahve to save it
[07:38] <varsebegdello> and exti
[07:38] <blank> yeah, it's saved
[07:38] <bonbon> i can manually mount it in disks when i boot, but it won't load automatically
[07:38] <varsebegdello> and not opend any more
[07:38] <dooglus> stevejesus: oh!  I mean hold the control key and type L which in nautilus.  it'll show the path.  you asked how to, right?
[07:38] <x86i> kapputu: Thats normal. I think its something in windows that isnt sharing it right. If your windows machine can access Ubuntu through samba, then its fine. Something is wrong with the windows share
[07:38] <stevejesus> dooglas:  haha thanks
[07:38] <blank> yeah, it works now, thanks bud :)
[07:38] <stevejesus> dooglus:  haha thanks
[07:39] <x86i> stevejesus: I dont know about nautilus. Try running it from the RUN menu
[07:39] <stevejesus> dooglus:  that was so handy.  thank you!
[07:39] <varsebegdello> blank is it working?
[07:39] <x86i> dooglus: Thanks lol
[07:39] <dooglus> stevejesus: I'm glad to help.
[07:39] <blank> yeah it's been working lol
[07:39] <blank> thanks bud
[07:40] <varsebegdello> you bet, i think i was helping you with mplayer couple days ago
[07:40] <kapputu> x86i, grrrrr I was connected to my office through vpn
[07:40] <stevejesus> x86i:  no  dice
[07:40] <varsebegdello> blank, get to know the command line interface, you'll love it
[07:40] <x86i> stevejesus: Error?
[07:41] <varsebegdello> so is mplayer working yet?
[07:41] <x86i> stevejesus: Are you sure samba is running?
[07:41] <stevejesus> x86i:  i tried smb://"insert ip here" and it wouldnt display contents.
[07:41] <Lord_Maynoth> HEy
[07:41] <blank> varsebegdello: thanks, I will :) yeah it's working, thanks bud!
[07:41] <varsebegdello> cool
[07:41] <stevejesus> x86i:  samba is running.  i aam sharing my homedir from here and i also have a mounted samba share
[07:41] <Lord_Maynoth> Does anyone know if it is possible to install the latest Open Office 2 (not beta)
[07:42] <dooglus> Lord_Maynoth: it is possible.
[07:42] <Lord_Maynoth> dooglus, how do i do it?
[07:42] <varsebegdello> Lord_Maynoth, i downlaoded the rpms from OO.o and ailend it
[07:42] <x86i> stevejesus: Try smbclient -L yourhostname
[07:42] <DR_K13> compile it
[07:42] <x86i> in console
[07:43] <Lord_Maynoth> is there a repo for ubuntu with the newest openofffice (non-beta)
[07:43] <dooglus> Lord_Maynoth: either download binaries and install, or download sources and build.  I'd go for binaries if I were you
[07:43] <varsebegdello> dooglus, Lord_Maynoth   it didn't quite work out for me
[07:43] <kapputu> x86i, I apologize for wasting your time
[07:43] <varsebegdello> dooglus, did you get it working?
[07:43] <varsebegdello> Ooo
[07:43] <stevejesus> x86i:  looks good.  shows all my machines info
[07:43] <Lord_Maynoth> thats way to much work for a guy who cant run the CLI
[07:43] <Lord_Maynoth> hehe
[07:43] <blank> I keep getting xml parser errors in firefox :(
[07:43] <dooglus> varsebegdello: I didn't try.  I much prefer gnumeric and abiword to openoffice.
[07:43] <x86i> stevejesus: Hrm... Sounds like something is up in gui
[07:44] <dooglus> varsebegdello: my PC is 'memory challenged' - OO.o is too big for me.
[07:44] <stevejesus> x86i:  well is there a way to browse shares via term?
[07:44] <Lord_Maynoth> is there a repo that has bleeding edge apps for ubuntu
[07:44] <Lord_Maynoth> ?
[07:44] <kapputu> how do I access a printer that's connected to my Windows computer?
[07:45] <intelikey> yeah main
[07:45] <dooglus> Lord_Maynoth: there was supposed to be a "grumpy groundhog" repo for bleeding edge stuff, but I don't think it happened yet.
[07:45] <varsebegdello> i have some ooo -Base documents that i have't been able to find a database program, any sugestions?
[07:45] <x86i> stevejesus: One sec, looking into it
[07:45] <Lord_Maynoth> I just wish autopackage would take off... then you wouldn't have to wait 6 months for new versions...
[07:45] <vbgunz> hello everyone, I have a general question. Why are files being shared from XP have time stamps about 5 hours behind the real time on Ubuntu? I mean I just created a file on XP and shared it. I grabbed it with Ubuntu and the time stamp is about 5 hours behind... Why?
[07:45] <varsebegdello> ubuntu is pretty bleeding edge compared to some....
[07:46] <dooglus> vbgunz: do you live 5 hours east or west of grenwich?
[07:46] <vbgunz> dooglus: I have both OS set to eastern
[07:46] <varsebegdello> gnight guys
[07:47] <vbgunz> dooglus: How can I check to make sure  Ubuntu is eastern?
[07:47] <dooglus> eastern is GMT-0500?
[07:47] <vbgunz> yes I believe
[07:47] <intelikey> vbgunz hwclock and timezone settings....
[07:47] <dooglus> system->admin->time-and-date
[07:47] <x86i> stevejesus: Add these lines to your sambaconfig under global domain master = yes local master = yes preferred master = yes , all on a newline
[07:47] <vbgunz> intelikey: thank you
[07:47] <x86i> stevejesus: then restart samba
[07:48] <vbgunz> dooglus: I do havce America/New York set which is Eastern...
[07:48] <stevejesus> x86i:  ok ill give it a shit
[07:48] <x86i> stevejesus: LOL
[07:48] <stevejesus> x86i:  shot*  lol
[07:48] <DR_K13> kikilololol
[07:48] <stevejesus> x86i:  i is next to o ha   maybe i should use a dutch layout
[07:48] <x86i> kapputu: Did you get it working?
[07:49] <blank> for ati drivers, I do the sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx, then restart or then do the echo thing and edit the xorg.conf and THEN restart
[07:49] <intelikey> X question.    in XFree86 there was a XF86_SVGA server is there an svga server in xorg ?
[07:50] <kapputu> x86i, yes the problem was I was connected to my office network through VPn
[07:50] <intelikey> i'm not seeing anything when i cache search for it....
[07:50] <stevejesus> x86i:  it shouldnt matter where i add it right?  just so long as its under global?
[07:50] <x86i> kapputu: Ah ok :)
[07:50] <x86i> stevejesus: Yeah, put them all together though, for testing purposes.
[07:50] <kapputu> x86i, I'm trying to add the printer connected to my Windows machine, do I need the driver?
[07:51] <dooglus> vbgunz: I don't know what's wrong then.  I don't have that problem.
[07:51] <x86i> kapputu: That I dont even know how to do. I think it works the same way. Not sure. check out http://us4.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/
[07:51] <vbgunz> dooglus: man, it's no big deal Vs a big annoyance...
[07:51] <dooglus> vbgunz: the clock is correct on both machines?
[07:51] <vbgunz> dooglus: yes both state 1:51AM right now
[07:52] <vbgunz> dooglus: one sec, I'll experiment on something
[07:52] <blank> guys im getting so pissed, I cant download anything in firefox cause I keep getting xml parsing errors
[07:53] <dooglus> vbgunz: check the timezone on the XP machine too
[07:53] <blank> I even get it when I go into preferences>privacy
[07:53] <vbgunz> dooglus: yes, I just shared something from another XP machine and the results are the same...
[07:53] <deFrysk> blank, pebkac ?
[07:53] <dooglus> vbgunz: and check /etc/timezone on ubuntu
[07:53] <blank> I get it on everything :'(
[07:53] <blank> pebkac?
[07:53] <vbgunz> dooglus: ok
[07:53] <blank> what's pebkac
[07:53] <deFrysk> blank, google for it
[07:53] <dooglus> blank: problem exists between keyboard and computer
[07:54] <vbgunz> dooglus: US/Eastern
[07:54] <dooglus> blank: or is it 'chair'?
[07:54] <deFrysk> chair
[07:54] <intelikey> pebcak = problem exists between chair and keyboard
[07:54] <german> need some help with an script, somebodu can help me??
[07:54] <dooglus> german: maybe
[07:55] <dooglus> german: may need a more detailed spec though
[07:55] <blank> no...comon it's something messed up, I cant surf cause I keep getting xml parsing errors
[07:55] <blank> I cant even go into my preferences
[07:55] <deFrysk> blank, what did you do to achieve this problem ?
[07:55] <dooglus> vbgunz: how are you accessing the XP share?
[07:55] <blank> maybe I should restart, since I haven't since I installed ubuntu, and I've updated since then
[07:55] <intelikey> also refered to as "administrative error"
[07:55] <german> its a sctript to know my piblic IP dooglus
[07:55] <vbgunz> dooglus: I swear this is a mystery... I do not know why the time of the file is 5 hours behind... It really makes no sense... Anybody have any ideas, clues or hints?
[07:55] <x86i> stevejesus: You might have to install a gui samba frontend. Look for JAGS in Synaptics.
[07:55] <vbgunz> dooglus: I am accessing like this > smb://192.168.0.100/Documents
[07:55] <blank> deFrysk: I dont know, I click a download link, etc., let me restart
[07:55] <blank> see what happens
[07:56] <vbgunz> dooglus: Through Nautilus...
[07:56] <german> dooglus, it uses wget to take the scriptr froma thw web
[07:56] <german> then i use cut to edit that
[07:56] <stevejesus> x86i:  alright im about to do an apt-get on JAGS.  dont really want to wait for synaptic to load.  never used it before either.  yeah, those lines didnt work, but!!  it didnt screw anything up!
[07:57] <[linner] > hey guys... how do i add multiverse and universe to my repository list?
[07:57] <dooglus> vbgunz: if you 'view as list' in nautilus, do you see wrong timestamps there?
[07:57] <dooglus> german: ok...  what URL?
[07:57] <x86i> stevejesus: I figured it wouldnt fix it, but it will help others see Ubuntu for sure. Try JAGS
[07:57] <vbgunz> dooglus: yes, list view is my preferred view... I'll check icons
[07:57] <x86i> stevejesus: We know Samba is working, since the cli list worked
[07:57] <german> i'll paste the script in #flood
[07:58] <stevejesus> x86i:  well i think ill remove it.  like i said, i can get to the ubuntu desktop from 3 different platforms in the house.
[07:58] <x86i> german: Paste it here www.pastebin.com
[07:58] <vbgunz> dooglus: oh, no, I cannot see time and icon view (list is no wonder preferred)
[07:58] <intelikey> cut to edit ?????    german echo $USER | cut -c3-4
[07:58] <vbgunz> dooglus: this is the modified time: Thu 10 Nov 2005 08:52:30 PM EST
[07:59] <german> i'ts just two lines, chek it at #flood
[07:59] <x86i> vbgunz: what file is this?
[08:00] <vbgunz> dooglus: XP reports modified time as "Today, November 11, 2005, 1:52:30 AM" and Ubuntu reports it as "Thu 10 Nov 2005 08:52:30 PM EST"
[08:00] <intelikey> `echo $USER | cut -c3-4` *
[08:01] <dooglus> german: try this: wget -O- -o/dev/null http://snurl.com/ipaddress
[08:01] <vbgunz> dooglus: this was just a regular text file: On XP, right-click > New > Text file... and checked it out on Ubuntu... It happens with executables and anything else... I have yet to find a file where time stamps sync correctly... All three machines are set to EST...
[08:02] <x86i> vbgunz: try to make a file in Ubuntu and see what windows says?
[08:02] <vbgunz> x86i: good idea
[08:02] <german> dooglus, my script is like that
[08:02] <vbgunz> I'll try that now
[08:02] <blank> hey guys how come I cant do 'sudo alien package'
[08:02] <blank> it says alien command not found
[08:02] <dooglus> vbgunz: I'm not understanding.  when you copy the file to ubuntu, the time is wrong, but what happens when you look at the 'list view' of the smb:/.../ in nautilus?
[08:02] <Victor-> join rencka psl-abcd
[08:02] <dooglus> german: that URL only prints the IP address - nothing more - so no 'cut' is needed
[08:02] <blank> how come I cant do sudo alien
[08:03] <dooglus> german: I just joined #flood.  paste your script there now?
[08:03] <kapputu> HP Deskjet 3930 is not supported
[08:03] <vbgunz> dooglus: the time is just wrong... I just tried what x86i recommended and Ubuntu created a file directly on the share 5 hours behind "Thu 10 Nov 2005 09:02:20 PM EST"
[08:03] <blank> guys, how can I install alien, so I can convert rpm packages to debian
[08:03] <vbgunz> dooglus: it should be "Fri 10 Nov 2005 02:02:20 PM EST"
[08:03] <x86i> vbgunz: And the time in ubuntu is correct?
[08:04] <stevejesus> x86i:  alright now im getting upset.
[08:04] <vbgunz> yes, the tray clock says: 02:04:08 AM
[08:04] <tritium> blank, sudo aptitude install alien.  Which rpms do you intend to convert?  Are there no ubuntu packages?
[08:04] <german> dooglus, my problem s that sometimes my Ip is xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx and other times it is xxx.xxx.xx.xx
[08:04] <stevejesus> x86i:  jags seems to only let you browse one workgroup at a time
[08:04] <stevejesus> x86i:  there ahas to be an easir way
[08:04] <intelikey> blank to install almost anything you want use "sudo apt-get install <package-name> "
[08:04] <blank> limewire (i dont want gtk-gnutella
[08:04] <x86i> stevejesus: Yes, but you can mount the drives
[08:04] <dooglus> vbgunz: try this:  mkdir /tmp/mount; sudo mount -t cifs -o password=,uid=1000 //192.168.0.100/Documents /tmp/mount
[08:05] <vbgunz> dooglus: date: Friday, November 11 2005 and time: 02:04:56 AM...
[08:05] <blank> intelikey: even rpms?
[08:05] <vbgunz> dooglus: ok
[08:05] <x86i> vbgunz: Goto console and type time
[08:05] <intelikey> blank first try apt and if there is no deb avalable then use the rpm package as a last resort
[08:05] <stevejesus> x86i:  yes, they will mount fine.  but it is a little cumbersome to mount everything via the command line.  granted my personal server mounts at boot, but everything else
[08:05] <FarrisG> Anyone here played Quake 4 under Ubuntu yet?
[08:06] <vbgunz> x86i: real 0m0.000s, user 0m0.000s, sys 0m0.000s,
[08:06] <stevejesus> FarrisG:  yes i have
[08:06] <vbgunz> dooglus: am doing that now
[08:06] <dooglus> vbgunz: then cd to /tmp/mount and check the dates there
[08:06] <vbgunz> dooglus: ok
[08:06] <blank> the sudo aptitude install alien thing didnt work
[08:06] <stevejesus> FarrisG:  and it is pityful.  of course my machine is slower than needed.
[08:06] <x86i> stevejesus: JAGS has an AutoMount feature
[08:06] <blank> it said it cant find it
[08:07] <german> i'm trying your command dooglus but nothing happens
[08:07] <blank> read this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21523) the post by Mike Basinger, it tells what I want to do but it doesnt work
[08:07] <tritium> !info alien
[08:07] <ubotu> alien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.53 (breezy), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB
[08:07] <FarrisG> stevejesus: I feel the same way, but my hardware isn't THAT bad. P4 2GHz, 1GB PC3200, Radeon 9800Pro 128M
[08:07] <vbgunz> dooglus: wrong fs type
[08:07] <tritium> blank, it's available, as you can see
[08:07] <FarrisG> stevejesus: My Athlon64 machine is reinstalling right now, I hope it works a bit better
[08:08] <stevejesus> FarrisG:  thats almost identical to what i have!  i have a 2000+, 1gb, and 256mb 5600xt
[08:08] <x86i> FarrisG: My friend is currently playing Quake4 in Ubuntu
[08:08] <stevejesus> FarrisG:  i was unaware that they had a 64-bit build...
[08:08] <Chousuke> You guys have such monsters
[08:08] <blank> tritium: sorry but I dont understand
[08:08] <Chousuke> and then you call them slow?
[08:08] <vbgunz> dooglus: I think I created the /tmp/mount directory... I can CD in and when I tried "ls -a" all I got back was ". .."
[08:08] <Chousuke> ;P
[08:09] <x86i> I have 2800+ Barton, 4gb of PC3200 and a 9800PRO
[08:09] <vbgunz> dooglus: I might have to umount /tmp/mount huh?
[08:09] <FarrisG> stevejesus: I don't think there's a 64bit build of Quake. But I usually run 32bit OS on the athlon54 anyway
[08:09] <tritium> blank, alien is available for install.  You should be able to sudo apt-get install alien, unless you haven't ever run "sudo apt-get update" yet
[08:09] <intelikey> Kernel: Linux 2.8.4-22 | Distro: Boomerang Linux release 1.0 for i386 | CPU: intel 80486 @ 66 Mhz | Mem usage: 2/11.1 MB  (18%) | Swap usage: 0/0 (99%) | Disk usage(st3502): 84/124 MB (67%) | Uptime: 11 days 01 hours 09 mins 38 sec
[08:09] <vbgunz> dooglus: then sudo the command you gave me>?
[08:09] <Chousuke> x86i: What use do you have for 4 gb? :|
[08:09] <x86i> intelikey: Im sorry :(
[08:10] <Chousuke> intelikey:  \o/
[08:10] <solidgroove> 2.8 kernel?
[08:10] <blank> tritium: so I have to install alien?
[08:10] <highvoltage> 2.8!? where do i get that?
[08:10] <dducko> blank, http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[08:10] <x86i> Chousuke: Nothing, I got the sticks for free.
[08:10] <tritium> blank, you're the one who said you wanted it
[08:10] <solidgroove> whats boomerang?
[08:10] <blank> oh, Sorry, I thought it was part of the command not something I had to install lol
[08:10] <x86i> Chousuke: I actually use them as ram drives. Thats where my swap is located.
[08:10] <dducko> No not really blank, I use that tutorial everytime i install it
[08:10] <ali_> hi i am trying to install ubuntu 5.10
[08:10] <stevejesus> x86i:  silly...  so jags didnt seem to be showing any machine graphically.  but i just looked behind it from the terminal it was launched from, and it lists al the shares in my network when i query
[08:10] <dducko> If you use the RPM yeah.. but you dont need it blank
[08:10] <ali_> it gets hang on my TravelMate laptop
[08:11] <ali_> on the line
[08:11] <FarrisG> My athlon64 only has 1GB in it as well. Could use one more gig. I'm just wondering if there will be a noticable hit since I'm using PATA drives in it instead of SATA/RAID0. Can't afford new drives right now, and I don't want to break the RAID on this system, as it's my fileserver
[08:11] <dooglus> vbgunz: I doubt /tmp/mount existed before you made it
[08:11] <ali_> loading cd-atapi module
[08:11] <vbgunz> dooglus: cannot create directory `/tmp/mount': File exists
[08:11] <stevejesus> d^-_-^b:  how do you like that verizon service?
[08:11] <Knelix> Guys, just as a note... x is displaying on my TV just fine.. apparently, I just had to start up with just the TV out connected.
[08:11] <rabeldable> ali_: is TravelMate a new or old laptop?
[08:11] <ali_> pentium 3
[08:11] <stevejesus> d^-_-^b:  i do technical support for those guys
[08:11] <dooglus> vbgunz: wrong fs type?  that's odd.  it's a windows share, right?
[08:11] <vbgunz> I tried to sudo umount /tmp/mount but:  /tmp/mount: not mounted
[08:11] <Knelix> Of course, it isn't very readable at all, but that's okay.
[08:11] <[linner] > rabeldable:  travelmate i think is an older laptop
[08:12] <vbgunz> dooglus: yes, NTFS
[08:12] <d^-_-^b> stevejesus, it suxxors in my locale.  I know that back in east, they have fiber opics lines
[08:12] <intelikey> ali is that booting from the install cd or what ?
[08:12] <LathropWells> knelix good to know. :)
[08:12] <d^-_-^b> stevejesus, but not here unforunately
[08:12] <d^-_-^b> =/
[08:12] <stevejesus> d^-_-^b:  fios baby
[08:12] <Knelix> :-)
[08:12] <x86i> stevejesus: Hrm... odd.. I'd head over to #samba ... Maybe you need an exorcist?
[08:12] <blank> oh okay
[08:12] <FarrisG> They just finished laying the fiber to my neighborhood this week
[08:12] <blank> yeah cuase somehow I think it didnt work with the rpm
[08:12] <vbgunz> dooglus: "sudo umount /tmp/mount" doesn't work... it seems I cannot umount it :9
[08:12] <ali_> intelikey, yes it is booting from install cd
[08:12] <FarrisG> supposedly it'll be a month or two before I can get service
[08:12] <ali_> but on this point
[08:12] <LathropWells> FarrisG - need a roomie??? - lol
[08:12] <ali_> it stops
[08:12] <[linner] > is everyone else having a problem wtih the repos
[08:12] <dooglus> vbgunz: it's not mounted
[08:12] <rabeldable> ali_: did you cycle through the alt-f2, alt-f3, alt-f4 keys to see any extra info on the screen?
[08:12] <dducko> nah Ubuntu is Debian so need .deb packages, blank
[08:13] <d^-_-^b> stevejesus, what's 'fios'?
[08:13] <tritium> hey there [linner] .  long time no see
[08:13] <ali_> rabeldable, no
[08:13] <[linner] > tritium:  my hero!!! :)  How the heck are you?
[08:13] <rabeldable> check it out
[08:13] <FarrisG> LathropWells: If my bro doesn't start paying his rent, I just might. :) Actually, my fiance would probably kill me if I took on another boarder
[08:13] <LathropWells> FarrisG - what is the news on price?
[08:13] <dducko> fiber optics d^-_-^b
[08:13] <stevejesus> d^-_-^b:  fios is the term for the fiber line your talking about.
[08:13] <dooglus> vbgunz: you can tell by typing "df /tmp/mount" - look at the "mounted on" field
[08:13] <blank> looks like I need java
[08:13] <blank> :(
[08:13] <rabeldable> alt-f2 through alt-f7
[08:13] <d^-_-^b> ooo
[08:13] <intelikey> ali_ try with expert mode and when it says detecting ....  unselect generic cdrom module
[08:13] <vbgunz> dooglus: oh ok I think your'e rightz1
[08:13] <LathropWells> how fast for how much $  ?
[08:13] <FarrisG> LathropWells: I think It's supposed to be 45 or 50 bucks for 8Mb/4Mb
[08:13] <x86i> stevejesus: Check this out http://imc.sourceforge.net/samba-console.html
[08:13] <dducko> Not bad
[08:14] <blank> I need java for limewire right?
[08:14] <stevejesus> d^-_-^b:  fios is the term for the fiber line your talking about.
[08:14] <ali_> intelikey, is it all ?
[08:14] <vbgunz> dooglus: Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on, /dev/hda2              9614148   5416448   3709324  60% /
[08:14] <dooglus> vbgunz: is there a password on the share
[08:14] <dducko> yeah..  its on the link i gave you blank
[08:14] <rabeldable> ali_: the thing is it might not be the cdrom, if you can boot from it it could be the next thing in the list trying to load
[08:14] <dooglus> vbgunz: that "mounted on /" shows that nothing is mounted on /tmp/mount
[08:14] <vbgunz> dooglus: no, both XP boxes have open shares...
[08:14] <LathropWells> FarrisG - That is outstanding! :)      (willing to sublet the front yard,backyard, roof, or basement so i can  setup a tent? - lol
[08:14] <FarrisG> LathropWells: The bitch is that I don't think they'll even consider doling out static addresses. Which blows
[08:14] <ali_> rabeldable, after taking the language and keyboard setting
[08:14] <blank> the package doesnt exist though
[08:14] <hs> hi *.*
[08:14] <dducko> or for the official one...
[08:14] <ali_> rabeldable, it looks for the option
[08:15] <intelikey> yeah it will ask that two times in the install process.   both times deslesct that and see if it cant install
[08:15] <dducko> !restricted
[08:15] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[08:15] <ali_> and at that stage it hangs
[08:15] <intelikey> ali_ ^
[08:15] <x86i> FarrisG: Who needs static addresses? That only means its easier to track you.
[08:15] <dducko> Check that out blank, has the Java stuff
[08:15] <LathropWells> NP - there are a bunch of services out there to take care of dynamic addressing
[08:15] <vbgunz> dooglus: oh, nice tip, thank you!
[08:15] <ali_> yes intelikey
[08:15] <x86i> :P
[08:15] <ali_> ok intelikey  i will and will come back to u
[08:15] <FarrisG> x86i: Heh. I got nothin' to hide
[08:16] <ali_> intelikey,  you will be around
[08:16] <intelikey> k
[08:16] <intelikey> for a while
[08:16] <ali_> intelikey, it is working over the desktop
[08:16] <x86i> FarrisG: That fast of a connection corrupts even the purest of souls... trust me. I was once pure.
[08:16] <FarrisG> LathropWells: YEah, I'm doing my own cooked up dyndns myself. It's just nearly impossible to really host anything without a static
[08:16] <ali_> intelikey, is expert mode difficult ?
[08:16] <vbgunz> x86i: what does this mean for time?: real    0m0.000s user    0m0.000s sys     0m0.000s
[08:16] <ali_> intelikey, i did server last time
[08:16] <blank> tell ubotu to tell me the sources.list or whatever of the repositories
[08:16] <blank> he told me once
[08:16] <dooglus> vbgunz: what if you   "mount -t cifs -o passwd= //192.168.0.100/documents /tmp/mount"   ?
[08:16] <intelikey> no just very aquainted with install errors.
[08:16] <ali_> intelikey, it seemed similar but ia m not sure about expert
[08:16] <vbgunz> dooglus: I will try
[08:16] <stevejesus> x86i:  interesting.  ill install that on the deb server in the living room.  i might find a practical use for it
[08:17] <vbgunz> dooglus: sudo first right?
[08:17] <FarrisG> HIttin' the hay y'all. G'night
[08:17] <intelikey> just read what it asks before you answer ali_ and you'll be fine.
[08:17] <x86i> stevejesus: I am at a loss for your problem. Samba is working, but not in Gnome. Check with #samba
[08:17] <ali_> intelikey, and if i dont know just select the default is it ?
[08:17] <vbgunz> dooglus: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.0.100/documents, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[08:18] <stevejesus> x86i:  will do
[08:18] <dducko> blank you can also  /msg ubotu whatever
[08:18] <intelikey> most of the time ali_
[08:18] <dducko> and he will respond to you
[08:18] <x86i> dducko: Can I ask him on a date?
[08:18] <dducko> Bottoms up.
[08:18] <dooglus> vbgunz: I don't need sudo - I can mount it as user.
[08:18] <x86i> !date
[08:18] <ubotu> x86i: I haven't a clue
[08:18] <frogzoo> !tell blank about repos
[08:19] <ali_> intelikey, are u using 5.10 ?
[08:19] <intelikey> tritium thanks but i'll pass, i'm on the vertual wagon.
[08:19] <LathropWells> virtualy drunk my wife won't mind... - lol
[08:19] <vbgunz> dooglus: mount: only root can do that...
[08:19] <dooglus> vbgunz: odd.
[08:19] <intelikey> ali_ 5.04
[08:19] <frogzoo> blank: ubotu is a bot :)
[08:19] <vbgunz> dooglus: does this happen to you?
[08:19] <dooglus> vbgunz: aah...  I have: mount is aliased to `sudo mount'
[08:19] <tritium> intelikey, well, good for you, heh
[08:19] <ali_> intelikey, what is the rite time to install it ? i mean 5.10 ?
[08:19] <x86i> He may be a bot, but hes a sexy bot.
[08:19] <ali_> is it a good idea to install it now? intelikey
[08:19] <blank> frogzoo: i know
[08:20] <intelikey> yes ali_
[08:20] <blank> man i cant get frickin java to install
[08:20] <blank> it says no such package
[08:20] <b0uncer> dudes, I can't login to Gnome after update :/
[08:20] <b0uncer> any help?
[08:20] <tritium> blank, read the java wiki page
[08:20] <x86i> blank: Its java-core I believe
[08:20] <intelikey> ali_ i'm on dialup so i'm always behind.
[08:20] <frogzoo> !java
[08:20] <marlun> Hello again everyone! I'm wondering, Ubuntu has Firefox 1.0.7 installed by default, if I want to upgrade to 1.5 RC2, what should I do, just download it and manually install it or somehow through the Package Manager?
[08:20] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[08:20] <vbgunz> dooglus: when I first set up the share I did Places > Connect to Server > server: 192* > share: Documents > name for connect: XP1
[08:20] <ali_> intelikey, oh ok
[08:21] <ali_> intelikey, but that is good version too
[08:21] <blank> !javadeb
[08:21] <ubotu> blank: I don't know
[08:21] <vbgunz> marlun: firefox rc2 is out or rc1?
[08:21] <blank> uh...kay
[08:21] <intelikey> yes
[08:21] <dooglus> vbgunz: you shouldn't need anything set up to do this mount.
[08:21] <blank> man :')
[08:21] <blank> i dont get it
[08:21] <dooglus> vbgunz: what if you replace 'cifs' with 'smbfs'?
[08:21] <frogzoo> blank: /msg ubotu help
[08:21] <vbgunz> dooglus: will try
[08:22] <marlun> vbgunz, rc2 is out
[08:22] <x86i> /msg ubotu will you give me the secret to life?
[08:22] <intelikey> dooglus can i ask what mount command yall are working on ?
[08:22] <frogzoo> ubotu: knows everything :)
[08:22] <ubotu> frogzoo: Syntax error in line 1
[08:22] <vbgunz> dooglus: same error regardless smbfs OR cifs...
[08:22] <frogzoo> :P - lol
[08:22] <marlun> vbgunz, nothing big, just some fixes to the automatic update system (atleast thats what the release notes say)
[08:22] <vbgunz> marlun: cool, thanks
[08:22] <dooglus> intelikey: mounting a windows share in ubuntu
[08:22] <dducko> blank #dzdsytems and Ill help you get java installed
[08:22] <kapputu> What do I do with a printer that does not show up in the list of supported printers in Linuxprinting.org??
[08:22] <intelikey> through samba i suppose
[08:22] <stevejesus> where is the guy trying to install xubuntu?  are you still here?  i am about to install it onto an old laptop.  i have links to the nesasary procedures
[08:22] <dooglus> intelikey: through smbfs
[08:22] <BioNik> hi, ho/redraw
[08:22] <vbgunz> marlun: I cannot wait for firefox 1.5 final to go on Ubuntu... its faster...
[08:23] <intelikey> k
[08:23] <rabeldable> kapputu:  if you have an HP printer usually you can select a printer close in the models
[08:23] <frogzoo> !xubuntu
[08:23] <ubotu> methinks xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[08:23] <vbgunz> dooglus: you think maybe ntfs might work
[08:23] <dooglus> intelikey: I just do this: "sudo mount -t cifs -o passwd= //server/Dokumenty /tmp/mount" - but it's not working for vbgunz
[08:23] <BioNik> hi, how to change locale away from utf-8
[08:23] <dooglus> vbgunz: I'm pretty sure it wouldn't
[08:23] <rabeldable> it may be the same for other printer types
[08:23] <LathropWells> vbgunz - opera is faster than firefox if speed is what you need.
[08:23] <kapputu> yeah it's a HP printer
[08:23] <rabeldable> what type?
[08:24] <marlun> vbgunz, np, could you help me out? I've downloaded the firefox-1.5rc2.tar.gz and it automaticly opened it in something called fileroller which seems to be like winrar for windows, should I just copy it over the old firefox folder?
[08:24] <kapputu> 3920 and 3940 are supported but not 3930
[08:24] <vbgunz> LathropWells: nah, I like Firefox.... :P
[08:24] <intelikey> mount point exist ?
[08:24] <kapputu> It's a HP Deskjet
[08:24] <rabeldable> try the 3940
[08:24] <kapputu> ok
[08:24] <stevejesus> yes opera IS suprisingly fast for being almost its own os lol.
[08:24] <dooglus> vbgunz: this is a remote machine you're trying to mount, right, not a local dual-booted windows partition?
[08:24] <tritium> kapputu, that should be supported
[08:24] <frogzoo> BioNik: right click clock @ top right hand corner - edit - time zone
[08:24] <b0uncer> please, anybody who has updated the latest Breezy updates, can you log into Gnome?
[08:24] <vbgunz> marlun check Ubuntu forums... walkthrough already there for firefox 1.5
[08:24] <LathropWells> stevejesus - lol
[08:24] <stevejesus> epiphany is also very zippy
[08:24] <dooglus> b0uncer: I can
[08:24] <rabeldable> or try 3900 if its there?
[08:24] <vbgunz> dooglus: yes, another machine sitting right next to me
[08:24] <b0uncer> dooglus: any idea why I can't (ICEauthority errors..) ?
[08:24] <marlun> vbgunz, oh, ok =) thanks
[08:25] <dooglus> b0uncer: when were the updates?
[08:25] <kapputu> hpijs?
[08:25] <vbgunz> it is an XP machine set to ESt and the time is currently correct
[08:25] <b0uncer> dooglus: yesterday evening
[08:25] <dooglus> b0uncer: what did they update?
[08:25] <b0uncer> I can only use console now
[08:25] <kapputu> nope 3900 ain't there
[08:25] <b0uncer> mm can't remember...where's the log..
[08:25] <marlun> vbgunz, which of the forums should I search in?
[08:25] <vbgunz> dooglus: correct, it is a networked machine running XP...
[08:26] <vbgunz> marlun I believe it is in the Ubuntu howto forums... search for firefox 1.5
[08:26] <vbgunz> marlun: the walkthrough works, I did it and had no problems!
[08:26] <b0uncer> dooglus: here's a short list.. (wait a sec)
[08:26] <dooglus> b0uncer: nautilus was updated I see
[08:26] <intelikey> dooglus i think you still get the error "only root can do that" when the mount point or the fs one doesn't exist.  i'd start there.   in trying to trubble shoot that one.
[08:26] <rabeldable> kapputu:  it probably does not matter since it might use the same driver anyways
[08:27] <rabeldable> pick 3920 or 3940
[08:27] <b0uncer> yea some libnautilus-extension1, librpm, libungif, nautilus-data, nautilus
[08:27] <Grug> Hey guys just checkin out ubuntu for first time
[08:27] <tritium> welcome, Grug
[08:27] <vbgunz> intelikey: I was trying to mount without sudo... thats the reason why I got the error... Then I simply sudo'ed in and was prompted with wrong f type, etc...
[08:27] <dooglus> intelikey: that's solved...  I was wondering why I could mount as user, whereas vbgunz needed to 'sudo' - it was because I have aliased 'mount' to 'sudo mount'.
[08:27] <kapputu> rabeldable, I added the printer using the lpadmin command as specified in the Debian linux > windows printing tutorial
[08:27] <frogzoo> Grug: any probs, just come back here :)
[08:27] <Grug> Eclipse didn't work out for me
[08:27] <Grug> :)
[08:27] <rabeldable> test page?
[08:27] <kapputu> when I try to enable it, I get an error that the printer name is not a shell built-in
[08:27] <b0uncer> dooglus: have you updated nautilus?
[08:28] <hs> kapputu: use gnome-cups-manager
[08:28] <dooglus> intelikey: the question is why does vbgunz see "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.0.100/documents, missing codepage or other [...] " when he tries to mount it?
[08:28] <rabeldable> is it a network printer, usb or parralel
[08:28] <dooglus> b0uncer: I have, yes.  I don't really ever use it though.
[08:28] <dooglus> b0uncer: it still works though, from the little I've used it today
[08:28] <kapputu> It's a network USB printer
[08:28] <Grug> Ubuntu is great so far for being free lol... I'm a windows guy and this is a bit difficult at first
[08:28] <b0uncer> dooglus: ok just checking..
[08:28] <vbgunz> dooglus and b0uncer I have Nautilus "2.12.1".
[08:28] <b0uncer> dooglus: how do I do the update through console?
[08:28] <intelikey> well i'd say wrong fs type is probably the cause....
[08:28] <b0uncer> I'm not that familiar with these debian-based things yet
[08:29] <stevejesus> well, time to see how well xubuntu fares on my old pii 450 lappy.
[08:29] <dooglus> "nautilus (2.12.1-0ubuntu1.1)" is the updated version
[08:29] <intelikey> kernel module ?
[08:29] <rabeldable> run the following command on your system:  lsmod | grep usb
[08:29] <dooglus> b0uncer: you type "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[08:29] <vbgunz> dooglus: do I have an older version?
[08:29] <frogzoo> Grug: remember learning windows at first wasn't straight forward - and Linux is way more powerful
[08:29] <rabeldable> that will tell you if the usb kernel module is loaded
[08:29] <b0uncer> dooglus: ok just figured out a sec ago :D
[08:30] <b0uncer> though there's nothing to be updated
[08:30] <b0uncer> :/
[08:30] <dooglus> vbgunz: "apt-cache policy nautilus | grep Installed" will tell you what you've got
[08:30] <b0uncer> I wonder what went wrong yesterday
[08:30] <kapputu> rabeldable, but the printer is connected to a Windows machine
[08:30] <b0uncer> and how to fix that
[08:30] <kapputu> I can see that machine and even see the printer
[08:30] <kapputu> but when I send a job nothing gets printer
[08:30] <vbgunz> dooglus: Installed: 2.12.1-0ubuntu1
[08:30] <kapputu> I'm not even sure if the job is spooled
[08:30] <stevejesus> frogzoo:  i wouldnt say thats it smore powerful.  thats a pretty broad statement.  i do like the apps better.  i mean my 350 g3 running os9 is still the most powerful thing i have EVER seen lol
[08:31] <dooglus> vbgunz: that's old then, yes.  I see "Installed: 2.12.1-0ubuntu1.1"
[08:31] <Grug> Anybody installed ubuntu on a mac mini?
[08:31] <vbgunz> dooglus: I get prompts to update the system and I update whenever I get the chance... did Nautilus just update?
[08:31] <stevejesus> frogzoo:  its all in the eye of the beholder
[08:31] <b0uncer> dooglus: I've got that 1.1 too :/ any clue how I might fix this problem?
[08:32] <b0uncer> if it even is nautilus-related
[08:32] <hs> kapputu: are u using samba and cups?
[08:32] <frogzoo> stevejesus: most everything in LInux can be scripted, which isn't the case in windows - that's a lot of leverage right there
[08:32] <kapputu> hs, yes
[08:32] <Mars_^> Hi
[08:32] <dooglus> vbgunz: I got the update about 36 hours ago.
[08:32] <b0uncer> Mars_^: hi
[08:32] <Grug> i script in windows using wscript :)
[08:32] <Mars_^> How can i mount my wndows partition?
[08:32] <vbgunz> dooglus: will refresh repos and check
[08:33] <rabeldable> kapputu:  so , you have a windows box with a usb printer connected and you are trying to print from your linux box which must have samba running since you can see it.
[08:33] <dooglus> vbgunz: I got it at 20:12 on the 9th.  it's now 8:32 on the 11th
[08:33] <hs> kapputu: printer name?
[08:33] <frogzoo> stevejesus: #2 Linux gives you access to the source & the open source community - again, that's a lot more flexibility than windows
[08:33] <stevejesus> frogzoo:  not too be devils advocate but you can script in windows just as deep as you can in mac or linux
[08:33] <Grug> yeah
[08:33] <kapputu> rabeldable, yes
[08:33] <rabeldable> ok
[08:33] <kapputu> printer name is Vyasa
[08:33] <Grug> But hey, this is an ubuntu group :)
[08:33] <LathropWells> Mars_^, - check out this link
[08:33] <b0uncer> dooglus: if you have an idea for me, please /msg me...I'll be back in a few minutes
[08:34] <b0uncer> or anyone
[08:34] <LathropWells> !ntfs
[08:34] <b0uncer> ->
[08:34] <tritium> frogzoo, stevejesus:  please take that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:34] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:34] <vbgunz> dooglus: my system is up to date :( I do have all repos enabled *except* for backports... I am on Breezy 5.10, with all imaginable updates applied :(
[08:34] <stevejesus> frogzoo:  dont get me wrong, linux is my main machine.  i use it for music production!  but still windows and others platforms are still plenty powerful.
[08:34] <Mars_^> lahgoon, Thanks
[08:34] <rabeldable> do you have an IP associated to that name on your system?
[08:34] <stevejesus> tritium: sry
[08:34] <dooglus> vbgunz: it didn't update nautilus though?
[08:34] <rabeldable> the IP of your windows box?
[08:34] <hs> kapputu: i am asking company and model name
[08:34] <Mars_^> LathropWells,  Thanks
[08:34] <Grug> anybody know how to get nicer fonts for Ubuntu?
[08:34] <vbgunz> dooglus: I am guessing not... :(
[08:34] <tritium> stevejesus, no worries at all, buddy
[08:34] <rabeldable> HP 3930
[08:34] <kapputu> hs, Deskjet 3930
[08:34] <vbgunz> I have a pretty buig list of repos and all are enabled except for backports...
[08:34] <frogzoo> !fonts
[08:34] <ubotu> I guess fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[08:34] <Grug> thanks
[08:35] <intelikey> nicer fonts ????
[08:35] <dooglus> vbgunz: md5sum /var/lib/apt/lists/*_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_Release*   ?
[08:35] <rabeldable> kapputu: its important to describe your setup in more detail cause this might be a samba problem
[08:35] <hs> have you installed cupsys try to configure it from Gnome-cups manager
[08:35] <vbgunz> 366ae3e5d784eb41ef0dd9fc5d23cb91  /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubunt u_dists_breezy-updates_Release
[08:35] <kapputu> rabeldable, I'm using Ubuntu 5.10
[08:35] <kapputu> Windows XP with USB printer
[08:36] <kapputu> I have installed Samba
[08:36] <vbgunz> dooglus: I pasted the results above ^
[08:36] <kapputu> and I can access Windows shares from my laptop and linux shares from my desktop
[08:36] <marlun> vbgunz, when, firefox 1.5 is released will I be able to update it through the Synaptic Package Manager then?
[08:36] <dooglus> vbgunz: only one line
[08:36] <dooglus> ?
[08:36] <kapputu> I used the Printing menu option in System/Admin
[08:36] <hs> Kapputu, have you installed cupsys try to configure it from Gnome-cups manager
[08:37] <vbgunz> dooglus: I never did the file thing... I instead *only* enabled repos from the interface... Should I go enable repos in the gfile itself?
[08:37] <kapputu> if I'm assuming that Printing -> Gnome Cups Manager, it saw my Desktop and also recognized the printer that is shared
[08:37] <vbgunz> marlun: Firefox has it;s own update feature... I currently downgraded and cant wait for it :)
[08:37] <kapputu> and then I was asked to identify the model and when installing chose the driver for 3940
[08:37] <dooglus> vbgunz: no, there's no need
[08:38] <kapputu> and then I tried to print a document which was sent to the printer but nothing happened
[08:38] <dooglus> vbgunz: but you should have both a Release and a Release.gpg in that directory
[08:38] <vbgunz> dooglus: maybe worth a try?
[08:38] <rabeldable> kapputu: do you have /etc/printcap file?
[08:38] <dooglus> vbgunz: did you copy my md5sum command fully?  there's a '*' at the end...
[08:38] <vbgunz> dooglus: yes
[08:38] <stevejesus> just got a notion...  in nautilus, when you right-click on an iso file and click write do disk...  is that actually gonna checksum it and make it bootable?  that would be alot handier than loading up k3b
[08:38] <vbgunz> dooglus: will try agin
[08:38] <kapputu> Printing: Unable to connect to SAMBA host, will retry in 60 seconds...ERROR:  Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[08:38] <kapputu> I got this error now
[08:38] <kapputu> the print job was spooled but I didn't notice it
[08:39] <kapputu> and now I got the above error
[08:39] <daHippo> Hi
[08:39] <dooglus> vbgunz: the problem is with the us repository.  it's out of date.
[08:39] <vbgunz> dooglus: yup, the result is "366ae3e5d784eb41ef0dd9fc5d23cb91  /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_Release" and the original command was: md5sum /var/lib/apt/lists/*_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_Release*
[08:39] <kapputu> rabeldable, I do not have a /etc/printcap file
[08:40] <dooglus> vbgunz: compare ftp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i386/ with ftp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i386/
[08:40] <vbgunz> dooglus: what repo is up to date
[08:40] <vbgunz> dooglus: ok
[08:40] <rabeldable> kapputu:  run the following command and send the output to me
[08:40] <dooglus> vbgunz: run "sudo sed -i 's/us[.] //g' /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:41] <vbgunz> dooglus: does running on i686 make a difference?
[08:41] <rabeldable> grep -i print /etc/samba/smb.cnf
[08:41] <dooglus> vbgunz: I doubt it
[08:41] <hs> kapputu, have you enabled file and printer sharing in windows?
[08:41] <rabeldable> good question hs
[08:41] <kapputu> hs, I don't remember where I should enable it
[08:41] <rabeldable> i think you can right click on the printer and share it
[08:41] <vbgunz> dooglus: nothing happened, back to prompt, check updates again?
[08:41] <kapputu> rabeldable, the printer is shared
[08:41] <B_166-ER-X> TiCpu,  :P
[08:41] <TiCpu> yep
[08:41] <hs> kapputu, it will be in your lancad proerties menu
[08:41] <daHippo> Hey y'all are you trying to connect to a windows printer from ubuntu?
[08:41] <dooglus> vbgunz: update and upgrade, yes
[08:42] <hs> kapputu, it will be in your lancard proerties menu
[08:42] <vbgunz> dooglus: ok
[08:42] <dooglus> vbgunz: and something happened - you just didn't see it
[08:42] <rabeldable> is it shared as the same name as your linux box expects
[08:42] <hs> s/proerties/proerties
[08:42] <vbgunz> dooglus: I did :"sudo sed -i 's/us[.] //g' /etc/apt/sources.list" about 3 times... is that a bad thing?
[08:42] <hs> s/proerties/properties
[08:42] <dooglus> vbgunz: no, it's fine
[08:42] <kapputu> yeah it is enabled
[08:42] <kapputu> I mean do I need to go and enable it anywhere
[08:43] <vbgunz> dooglus: ok checking for updates
[08:43] <kapputu> I wouldn't be able to access my windows folders if it were disabled right?
[08:43] <vbgunz> dooglus: what was that command? man how you know these things?
[08:43] <dooglus> vbgunz: each time you ran it, it deleted all "us." strings from your sources.list.  the 2nd and 3rd time it wouldn't have found any to delete
[08:43] <rabeldable> kapputu:  Here are some links
[08:43] <hs> kupputu: it should be enabled there and printer should be configured for sharing
[08:43] <rabeldable> http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/samba.htm
[08:43] <frogzoo> vbgunz: sed outputs to standard out - the worst you'll get is gibberish on your screen
[08:43] <vbgunz> dooglus: I do have three updates, nautilus is one of them
[08:43] <rabeldable> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=110931
[08:44] <vbgunz> going for it
[08:44] <rabeldable> http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Linux/Linux_Printing/Q_20716995.html
[08:44] <dooglus> vbgunz: sed is a stream editor.  -i means "edit in place".  s/from/to/ replaces the 'from' string with the 'to' string.  the 'g' on the end makes it global - so it will do more than one replacement per line
[08:44] <vbgunz> dooglus: hree updates are nautilus related
[08:44] <rabeldable> see if there is something in your config that you may have missed
[08:44] <intelikey> ali_ must have gotten his/her lappy to boot the install cd  :)
[08:44] <vbgunz> dooglus: really sweet
[08:45] <ali_> intelikey, no
[08:45] <vbgunz> dooglus: major thanks, I have to remember this.... this is powerful
[08:45] <dooglus> vbgunz: looks like ubuntu need to get themselves someone to manage their repositories better.  the us repo is 36 hours out of date at least
[08:45] <intelikey> ali_ still same error ?
[08:45] <ali_> intelikey, one question about cd module
[08:45] <vbgunz> dooglus: ok upgrade finished
[08:45] <intelikey> k
[08:45] <vbgunz> will check
[08:45] <dducko> heh.. i had the nautilus when i got up this morning
[08:45] <ali_> once i complete installation then how to upload that default module ? for cd ?
[08:45] <dducko> however long ago that was..
[08:45] <vbgunz> dooglus: nautilus: 2.12.1-0ubuntu1.1
[08:45] <ali_> intelikey, once i complete installation then how to upload that default module ? for cd ?
[08:45] <dducko> and now im going to bed
[08:46] <marlun> vbgunz, yeah I know but I looked at the walkthrough and it's not as easy for me as it sounds on the text, for example how to install mozilla-mplayer, I can't find it in the package manager, and also they say I need libstdc++5 but I've got 6, do I still need 5 or is 6 a later version?
[08:46] <dooglus> vbgunz: that's the one
[08:46] <dooglus> vbgunz: hopefully it will break GNOME for you - then you and b0uncer can have fun debugging it :)
[08:46] <vbgunz> dooglus: cool... marlun I never installed mplayer... just firefox
[08:46] <vbgunz> dooglus: :P
[08:46] <intelikey> ali_ if you get it to install without it you don't use it.    if the install cd can be used without that module then any cd should work without it....
[08:47] <marlun> vbgunz, oh, but what about the libstdc++5? :P
[08:47] <ali_> intelikey, k
[08:47] <vbgunz> dooglus: the one thing about Windows shares with XP is there SO slow to access if you don't access them for a while
[08:48] <vbgunz> marlun: I followed the tute a while ago, it worked perfect and let me test Firefox 1.5 for a bit... then I just downgraded... I can wait and don't wish to break Ubuntu or something :)
[08:48] <intelikey> ali_ if a certain module hangs your system you try to get the system to work without that module.   even deleting it from /lib/modules/blah... if need  :)
[08:48] <ali_> intelikey, k
[08:48] <vbgunz> dooglus: I upgraded Nautilus... should I log out or restart gdm? It doesn't seem to have fixed the time issue :(
[08:49] <marlun> vbgunz, so your waiting untill it's up in the Package Manager?
[08:49] <frogzoo> is there any good reason to upgrade firefox to 1.5rc2 ?
[08:49] <kapputu> thanks rabeldable
[08:49] <ali_> intelikey, where are u situated ?
[08:49] <intelikey> not all hardware is compatable with all drivers/modules   and thus sometimes they hang things.....
[08:49] <agro1986> question: nautilus in breezy defaults to browsing mode (not spatial mode). Is this a change in upstream gnome or just in ubuntu?
[08:49] <vbgunz> marlun: sure, its no big deal and doesn't intriduce features which are too die for or anything :)
[08:49] <ali_> intelikey, where are u located :D ?
[08:49] <intelikey> in an office chair in my shop  :)
[08:49] <ali_> what is ur work ?
[08:49] <marlun> vbgunz, yeah thats what I was asking before if it was going to add to their for easy update when 1.5 was released :)
[08:50] <hs> kupputu: this link will solve your problem
[08:50] <hs> kupputu: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUPS_Setup#Windows_to_Linux
[08:50] <hs> kuputu: all the best
[08:50] <marlun> vbgunz, excuse my horrible english :)
[08:50] <intelikey> ali_ general repairs.    what used to be called a "handy man"
[08:50] <ali_> intelikey, computer repairs ?
[08:50] <intelikey> some yes.
[08:51] <agro1986> question: nautilus in breezy defaults to browsing mode (not spatial mode). Is this a change in upstream gnome or just in ubuntu?
[08:51] <ali_> other ? intelikey
[08:51] <rabeldable> np
[08:51] <vbgunz> marlun: when the official 1.5 is released... if Ubuntu doesn't up to it in time I might go ahead and install otherwise waiting will be no big deal... The one really cool thing about the new Firefox is how popups and javascript windows can be forced into a tab instead which is really nice...
[08:51] <ali_> intelikey, do you repair laptop pc's ?
[08:51] <theturtl> anyone know of an app for synching ipod music, thats compatible with itunes db?
[08:51] <intelikey> auto computer bycycle furnature..... you name it. if it's broke i work on it.
[08:51] <nalioth> vbgunz: that has been standard on galeon for some time now
[08:51] <vbgunz> dooglus: did you break out on me? Should I log out, restart GDM or something? times are still wrong in the Windows share
[08:51] <frogzoo> !ipod
[08:51] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[08:51] <vbgunz> nalioth: is galeon a Linux only browser?
[08:52] <ali_> intelikey can you tell me how to repair the screen of laptop ?
[08:52] <marlun> vbgunz, yeah okey then I'll just hope they'll add it when it comes :)
[08:52] <vbgunz> I just switched to Linux about 60 days ago and Firefox sort of made me happy as I was using it on Windows before the switch
[08:52] <kapputu> hs, my problem is the other way round
[08:52] <nalioth> vbgunz: it is built for gnome (using gtk2)
[08:52] <ali_> intelikey, the screen is very dark but there is picture in the background how to repair it ?
[08:52] <hs> kuputu: it has other way also
[08:52] <frogzoo> ali_: turn up the brightness?
[08:53] <theturtl> hrmm. so itunes with crossover office huh
[08:53] <theturtl> :D
[08:53] <vbgunz> nalioth: thanks!
[08:53] <hs> ali_: screen or screen resolution?
[08:53] <ali_> lol
[08:53] <intelikey> ali_ no chance without close examination....    but some have a trim pot for the brightness ali_
[08:53] <vbgunz> dooglus: ran out on me? what about that child support?
[08:53] <ali_> no its the screen not the brightness problem
[08:53] <vbgunz> :P
[08:53] <ali_> intelikey, someone said check the light ?
[08:53] <ali_> intelikey,  is there any light on the LCD ?
[08:54] <ali_> intelikey, where is the light setting ?
[08:55] <pauldaoust> hey, folks... I have a Hula/Evolution question. (I tried the Hula channel, but it looks like North America is asleep!) does anyone know a good way to transfer messages from Evo to Hula?
[08:56] <vbgunz> dooglus: sorry, logged out
[08:56] <hs> !Hula
[08:56] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, hs
[08:56] <pauldaoust> (I tried to just copy Evo's mailboxes to Hula's mail store directory, but it looks like the formats are different enough that all I got were two or three messages from each folder)
[08:56] <intelikey> ali_ you are asking me to make very brawd assumptions about your particular problem.  (not that i don't make that mistake sometimes)   but without having that machine here i have no idea what to tell ya.       google.com is your friend and  don't believe everything you read.
[08:56] <pauldaoust> hs: you using Boolean operators there, or you just really feel passionate about Hula?
[08:56] <b0uncer> damn how can I login to Gnome :<
[08:57] <intelikey> b0uncer from ?
[08:57] <pauldaoust> hs: ping...
[08:57] <b0uncer> intelikey: from what/where?
[08:58] <intelikey> console ? b0uncer
[08:58] <b0uncer> from my own pc through gdm
[08:58] <b0uncer> :/
[08:58] <b0uncer> I don't even get an error-msg
[08:58] <b0uncer> just a brown background and a mouse cursor
[08:58] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: sometimes I can rectify that by rebooting. There's probably a better way to do it, but I haven't discovered it.
[08:59] <intelikey> hmmm ah sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:59] <b0uncer> pauldaoust: I updated Gnome yesterday (nautilus stuff), and booted my pc this morning
[08:59] <b0uncer> so I ought to try rebooting?
[08:59] <b0uncer> hmm..
[08:59] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: hm. so that's what you came up with first thing?
[08:59] <b0uncer> is there a somekind of Gnome's "config" file in my home dir, that might cause this?
[09:00] <intelikey> and b0uncer 'rm ~/.*autrority '
[09:00] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: one question; I arrived in this conversation late. You get GDM, but it just won't start up your GNOME session once you log in, right?
[09:00] <JaNez> hi all
[09:00] <JaNez> how i can star the live cd?
[09:00] <b0uncer> intelikey: didn't help
[09:01] <b0uncer> pauldaoust: that's right
[09:01] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: try this: log in using the 'failsafe' session, which should bring up just a single terminal. then go sudo chown b0uncer.b0uncer ~/.ICEauthority (of course substituting your proper username for b0uncer)
[09:01] <intelikey> typo   .*authority      i had an extra r  sorry.
[09:01] <b0uncer> pauldaoust: first time I got "Your session lasted less than 10 seconds" -message, but afterwards nothing
[09:01] <rubik> one question, can i add debian sources list to my ubuntu sources list ??
[09:02] <pauldaoust> rubik: yes, but you might get some compatibility problems. Some people do it with success; some don't.
[09:02] <intelikey> rubik yep and it will wreck the whole install  :)
[09:02] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: yeah, that sounds really familiar. um, yeah, try the ~/.ICEauthority thingy.
[09:02] <rubik> lol really
[09:02] <rubik> ?
[09:02] <rubik> i dont find a lot of programs i used in my debian
[09:02] <JaNez> how i can star the live cd?
[09:02] <intelikey> rubik  !repos
[09:02] <pauldaoust> JaNez: just pop it in your CD drive and restart
[09:02] <rubik> enlightenment and a lot of more are not in ubuntu sources list
[09:02] <hs> JaNez, put to cdrom and boot
[09:02] <rubik> !repos
[09:02] <intelikey> !repos
[09:03] <pauldaoust> rubik: e16 is there... you probably want e17 though, right?
[09:03] <JaNez> hs i have benn booted
[09:03] <intelikey> lol   oops.
[09:03] <JaNez> what is the command?
[09:03] <rubik> rite
[09:03] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: then log out of your failsafe session (just type 'exit' in the xterm) and try to log in using the regular GNOME session.
[09:03] <JaNez> for type in the screen
[09:03] <b0uncer> pauldaoust: checked out, .ICEautority is owned by the user I'm trying to login with
[09:03] <b0uncer> already
[09:03] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: poop
[09:03] <JaNez> hs
[09:03] <rubik> i type apt-cache search enlightenment and it doesnt find nothing
[09:03] <hs> JaNez, you have DVD?
[09:03] <JaNez> c
[09:03] <JaNez> cd
[09:04] <hs> JaNez, what is it is saying able to boot?
[09:04] <trinidad> how do i change the size of the icons in the menubar
[09:04] <trinidad> ?
[09:04] <JaNez> the screen of ubuntu
[09:04] <JaNez> and say the option "press to install" :/
[09:04] <rubik> well tnz anyway
[09:04] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: hm, try going rm /tmp/*bouncer* (again substituting your proper username) and then try to log into a graphical session?
[09:05] <JaNez> omfg
[09:05] <JaNez> i have download the install version
[09:05] <JaNez> :/
[09:05] <Nitewalker> hello everyone i was hoping someone could help me ive used synaptic to do some updates for xine and ive also loaded up the w32codecs as well but im still unable to play avi of my brothers wedding im wondering if anyone knows how i can get it to work?
[09:05] <hs> JaNez, then go ahead it wil not ask for partition
[09:05] <b0uncer> pauldaoust: still didn't help :/
[09:05] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: poop poop poop
[09:06] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: I'm stumped; not sure what to suggest now. when you say you updated GNOME... have you just not done any updates for a while, or...?
[09:06] <hs> JaNez, are you sure it is live cd i guess it is installer cd
[09:07] <b0uncer> pauldaoust: last update before that was a week ago
[09:07] <b0uncer> next yesterday evening
[09:07] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: that's funny; I haven't seen any updates to GNOME lately.
[09:07] <b0uncer> yesterday evening everything worked just smoothly (though I didn't log out)
[09:07] <b0uncer> pauldaoust: nautilus updates
[09:07] <b0uncer> I meant
[09:07] <b0uncer> but that's part of Gnome
[09:08] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: guess I installed them without noticing what they were ^_^
[09:08] <b0uncer> I only wonder why other people have no problems even after they have updated the same pkgs as I have
[09:08] <b0uncer> I don't get it
[09:08] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: it's the perennial question.
[09:08] <pauldaoust> (unfortunately, from experience, Windows is no better)
[09:08] <B_166-ER-X> how do i start a service on breezy ?
[09:09] <pauldaoust> B_166-ER-X: if you're fond of the command line, all the service startup scripts are in /etc/init.d
[09:09] <pauldaoust> B_166-ER-X: otherwise, you can go System > Administration > Services to get a funky graphical one
[09:09] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[09:09] <pauldaoust> np
[09:09] <b0uncer> pauldaoust: I'll try rebooting (this is a situation where only magic can help, it seems) so I'll be back in a moment
[09:09] <intelikey> what xorg server modules are needed for minamal gui  freetype?  bitmap?    type1?  ????
[09:09] <b0uncer> -->
[09:09] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: good luck :)
[09:09] <intelikey> none ?
[09:10] <pauldaoust> intelikey: I'm intrigued; what are you attempting/
[09:10] <pauldaoust> ?
[09:10] <intelikey> make x work on this dinosore
[09:11] <pauldaoust> intelikey: gotcha. well, I'd say that... hmm, one sec.
[09:12] <hit3k> How do I define zones in shorewall config?
[09:12] <pauldaoust> intelikey: hum. I'd probably turn off GLX and GLcore... freetype is essential; I don't imagine bitmap uses much resources
[09:12] <vbgunz> anybody know how to get a list of streaming radio networks for Rhythmbox?
[09:12] <b0uncer> omg....the Windows Black Magic (aka reboot) helped!
[09:12] <b0uncer> I can't believe my eyes
[09:12] <b0uncer> first time in years when I have to reboot linux to get it working
[09:12] <intelikey> k  and type1 is probably needed too ?
[09:12] <b0uncer> duhh
[09:12] <vbgunz> b0uncer: what did rebooting help you with?
[09:12] <pauldaoust> vbgunz: search for 'shoutcast' on the 'Net... the Winamp website also has a good list of shoutcast stations
[09:13] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: congranulations!
[09:13] <b0uncer> vbgunz, I was unable to login to Gnome
[09:13] <vbgunz> ahh
[09:13] <pauldaoust> intelikey: biggest thing is to make sure composite is turned off, of course :)
[09:13] <LathropWells> vbgunz - no that is a toughie - streamtuner has a hundred or so for xmms
[09:13] <b0uncer> pauldaoust, thanks for all the tips :) hehe
[09:13] <pauldaoust> intelikey: you must have very, very cramped resources if you can't get X to run...
[09:13] <vbgunz> pauldaoust: I know about shoutcast... I meant a way to easily import a list of hundreds of stations or something...
[09:13] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: no problem; glad they helped.
[09:13] <pauldaoust> vbgunz: naw, sorry mate
[09:13] <siimo> anyone know if ooo 2.0 will be backported to breezy
[09:13] <vbgunz> pauldaoust: its cool
[09:15] <pauldaoust> siimo: probably. I mean, it already has the beta, or one of the release candidates, or somethng.
[09:15] <siimo> pauldaoust, yeah beta is in the cd
[09:16] <pauldaoust> siimo: Ubuntu doesn't do backports (well, at least there are no official backports) but upgrading 1.9.129 to 2.0 isn't so much a backport as an update.
[09:16] <dirkson> Say... I need to execute some commands to get my modem working, and it's really starting to get old to copy&paste 'em in at every startup. Can anyone take a look at 'em and tell me where they should go to log in at boot?
[09:16] <siimo> pauldaoust, hmmm what?
[09:16] <dooglus> dirkson: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[09:16] <dirkson> Really, that easy? Thanks a lot :D
[09:16] <siimo> pauldaoust, they do do official backports http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=47
[09:17] <dooglus> dirkson: :D
[09:17] <siimo> pauldaoust, its even on the official mirror look : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[09:17] <Nitewalker> does anyone know who to go about installing xine? im currently downloading xine-lib file at the moment and then i will be downloading xine-ui any help is greatly appriecated
[09:18] <dirkson> Dooglus: That is -seriously- going to save me some time and effort. Now just to apply the patch so that the internet works for more than 10 minutes >.<
[09:18] <pauldaoust> siimo: that's new... just a week or two ago I saw a notice that said they wouldn't be doing that :-S
[09:19] <pauldaoust> anyway, folks, the sandman is calling me. I gotta go sleep.
[09:19] <intelikey> my my this system is bloated.....   i can make my other distro (not to be spamming)  run kde and mozilla with only 300m of files installed this is already above 400m and only fluxbox ......
[09:19] <dooglus> dirkson: you've got a patch for that?
[09:20] <dirkson> Dooglus: Yah. It's not designed to go on my kernel, though, so I'm gonna have to try to jury-rig it.
[09:20] <dirkson> Dooglus: I was really hoping that updating to 2.6.14 would solve my issue, but it didn't. Helped a lot, but didn't solve, and brought in some issues of its own.
[09:21] <intelikey> ubangi engeneering ?
[09:22] <dirkson> Say, as long as I'm on here- When I boot my shiney new kernel, it pops up two memory errors, then sits for about two and a half minutes before recommencing boot. Anyone know where I could look to try to see what's going wrong?
[09:22] <dooglus> b0uncer: rebooting completely clears out /tmp - maybe that's why it helped...
[09:23] <dirkson> No guesses? :-/
[09:23] <[Chameleon] > try the memory test
[09:23] <[Chameleon] > maybe you have bad ram
[09:24] <b0uncer> dooglus, hmm...might be
[09:24] <b0uncer> dunno
[09:24] <b0uncer> though I booted my pc this morning, so /tmp had to be empty
[09:24] <marlun> is there a nice way of listening to internet radios that requires windows media?
[09:25] <b0uncer> which means the problem would have to have created itself in a few seconds
[09:25] <dirkson> Could be. That'd make me angry, but it could be. I know my cardbus has some issues with reporting memory oddly, though I'm not sure of the specifivs there
[09:25] <Nitewalker> does anyone know the command to unpack tarballs?
[09:25] <b0uncer> which doesn't sound like a stable system
[09:25] <b0uncer> NigelS, tar -xf
[09:25] <intelikey> dirkson 'dmesg'  might have some info on it.
[09:25] <b0uncer> Nitewalker, I mean
[09:25] <b0uncer> not nigels
[09:26] <b0uncer> tar -xf filename.tar or for gzipped, tar -xzf filename.tar.gz or for bzip2ed, tar -xjf filename.tar.bz2
[09:26] <dirkson> Ahhh, thank you : )
[09:26] <b0uncer> or you could even drop the "-" off and use tar xf instead
[09:27] <Nitewalker> thank you b0uncer
[09:27] <Cindy> how can i add user accounts to ldap?
[09:29] <mattfury> hi.
[09:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> how tight are the ports on a default ubuntu install?
[09:29] <mattfury> could an experienced debian user help me out with a fglrx problem?
[09:31] <rabeldable> anyone know which music players support shockwave streaming?
[09:31] <daHippo> hi
[09:32] <daHippo> ne1 here use opera?
[09:32] <dirkson> Hmm....... Looking in my dmseg, I find this: NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86_64 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-7676  Fri Jul 29 13: 15:16 PDT 2005
[09:32] <dirkson> device-mapper: 4.4.0-ioctl (2005-01-12) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com
[09:32] <dirkson> device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[09:32] <dirkson> device-mapper: error adding target to table
[09:32] <dirkson>  - But the last two lines are repeated about fifty times. Anyone have any clues as to what's going on -there-?
[09:33] <gerbman> what's the fglrx problem?
[09:33] <rabeldable> dirkson: do you have a 64bit cpu?
[09:33] <mattfury> ?
[09:33] <mattfury> ohh sorry, installing 2.6.14.1
[09:33] <mattfury> (kernel)
[09:34] <mattfury> can you help with another problem first?
[09:34] <dirkson> rabeldable: Amd64, yes
[09:34] <henk> comfigure fails on me because it says c++ cannot create executables. The configure.log says that it cannot find g++, c++ etc. It is right because in stead of g++ on my system i have g++-VERSION with a few different versions. Should i somehow telll me system which g++ to use ?
[09:34] <mattfury> gerbman, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4344
[09:35] <mattfury> is the first kernel problem.
[09:35] <cdubya> ah, I think I may have accidentally added a host in the networking applet and now I have a sit0 entry in ifconfig....lo isn't answering anymore on 127.0.0.1 and I need to get rid of the sit0 and get lo back on 127.0.0.1.....can someone help me out.....
[09:35] <dirkson> rabeldable: Yes, amd64. Why do you ask?
[09:36] <mattfury> this is the ati problem ... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4345
[09:36] <mattfury> quake will work though :D
[09:36] <gerbman> really not sure about the kernel problem
[09:37] <daHippo> help?
[09:37] <daHippo> ne1 know opera?
[09:38] <Nitewalker> i dont sorry daHippo
[09:38] <raphink> which one? Carmen?
[09:38] <aeon17x> daHippo: proper English please.
[09:38] <raphink> Figaro?
[09:38] <daHippo> Oh, sorry.
[09:38] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: there are no listening ports on a default ubuntu install
[09:38] <mattfury> gerbman, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4345
[09:39] <mustard5> !opera
[09:39] <dirkson> rabeldable: Yes, amd64. Why do you ask?
[09:39] <sexcopter8000m> daHippo, I don't know opera, but you really need to just ask a proper quesiton: explain what your exact problem/question is and what you've tried already
[09:39] <mustard5> ubuto: tell daHippo about opera
[09:39] <daHippo> Opera, as in the Web Browser Opera (www.opera.com)
[09:39] <vladuz976> anybody know a good program to genreate thumbnails?
[09:39] <dooglus> daHippo: you need to ask a question
[09:40] <daHippo> Ok
[09:40] <raphink> yes most of us know opera daHippo , now what's your problem?
[09:40] <mustard5> daHippo, download from the opera website
[09:40] <gerbman> i'm not sure, i installed the fglrx driver from package
[09:40] <dirkson>  - But the last two lines are repeated about fifty times. Anyone have any clues as to what's going on -there-?
[09:40] <dirkson> Hmm....... Looking in my dmseg, I find this: NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86_64 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-7676  Fri Jul 29 13: 15:16 PDT 2005
[09:40] <dirkson> device-mapper: 4.4.0-ioctl (2005-01-12) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com
[09:40] <dooglus> vladuz976: imagemagick is good at making thumbnails, amongst other things
[09:40] <mattfury> im using the flavio driver ...
[09:40] <dirkson> device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[09:40] <dirkson> device-mapper: error adding target to table
[09:40] <dirkson>  - But the last two lines are repeated about fifty times. Anyone have any clues as to what's going on -there-?
[09:40] <daHippo> I've connected to a windows printer, through ubuntu, and can print from all my apps, but in opera, the printer doesnt show up
[09:41] <mustard5> heh
[09:41] <raphink> opera sux (hehe)
[09:41] <sexcopter8000m> dirkson, you're spamming. don't do it.
[09:41] <raphink> konqui powa :)
[09:41] <kapputu> rabeldable, I got the printer working, the problem was with the printer itself
[09:41] <raphink> daHippo: does the printer show up in qt apps, like konqueror ?
[09:41] <gerbman> henk, did you try installing the build-essential package
[09:41] <dirkson> Sorry. It's all part of one coherent message, there's just a lot of it.
[09:42] <dooglus> daHippo: I don't have a printer, and I don't use Opera, so I can't help you, other than to suggest that it might be a good idea to use free software - that way people have more of a chance to help you.
[09:42] <sexcopter8000m> dirkson, then use pastebin, don't paste messages here
[09:42] <daHippo> I don't have Konq, but it shows up in Firefox and prints fine from it
[09:42] <raphink> I'm asking about konqueror daHippo
[09:42] <raphink> not about firefox
[09:42] <daHippo> Opera is free (but not opensource)
[09:42] <dirkson> And may I remark how ironic I find it to be lectured on ettiquite by a fellow with a name such as yours : )
[09:43] <sexcopter8000m> dirkson, heh
[09:43] <kapputu> how do I edit sources.list to include extra repositories for Breezy?
[09:43] <daHippo> I didn't install konqueror
[09:44] <mustard5> kapputu sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list will open it in an editor....
[09:44] <mustard5> ubotu: tell kapputu about sources
[09:44] <raphink> how did you install opera daHippo ?
[09:44] <daHippo> synaptic
[09:44] <Nitewalker> once you have unpacked a tarball can u install it jst from the desktop or do u have to go to where its stored?
[09:44] <mustard5> kapputu, and ubotu has sent you links to sources information
[09:44] <Madpilot> daHippo: I run Opera all the time, and just tried printing - it went fine... maybe have a look in Opera's printing options to make sure it sees your printer?
[09:45] <raphink> Madpilot: that's the thing, his printers are not listed in Opera
[09:45] <henk> gerbman, ah that helped
[09:45] <raphink> I dn't have such a pb either. My printers all show in opera
[09:45] <daHippo> that box is empty - no printers show up like in other apps
[09:45] <gerbman> henk, cool
[09:45] <Madpilot> daHippo: what make/model of printer?
[09:45] <daHippo> HP Laserjet 3320
[09:46] <gerbman> nite, depends on what's in the tarball....does it need to be compiled?
[09:46] <raphink> the model shouldn't matter
[09:46] <raphink> if it works in other apps
[09:46] <Madpilot> daHippo: HP should just work...
[09:46] <raphink> then CUPS should just provide it to opera aswell
[09:46] <Nitewalker> gerbman, ive jst finished downloading xine-lib tarball
[09:46] <raphink> it's not a pb of compatibility with the printer
[09:46] <raphink> since the printer isn't even listed
[09:46] <Madpilot> daHippo: you might want to ask on the Opera forums - there's a Linux forum there
[09:47] <daHippo> It does work, except for Opera...  This Opera install is driving me crazy.
[09:47] <raphink> I would think the opera version you installed has not been properly compiled
[09:47] <raphink> I think opera is not in the main repos
[09:47] <raphink> since it's not opensource
[09:47] <daHippo> I also have the openmotif issue, but I don't care much about plugin
[09:47] <Madpilot> daHippo: are you running the static deb Opera or the one supposedly for Breezy Badger?
[09:47] <raphink> so you may have used a repos that had a bad version of opera
[09:48] <gerbman> nite, everything i've installed from source has been on the command line with "configure" and "make"
[09:48] <daHippo> I added it
[09:48] <Madpilot> raphink: Opera come in deb files, not from repos, usually.
[09:48] <raphink> Madpilot: I have it on repos
[09:48] <raphink> if you install the repos, you get it on repos
[09:48] <raphink> :p
[09:48] <daHippo> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[09:48] <henk> gerbman, i had all the packages installed manualy but the enviroment seemed to be incomplete. I had already fixed that by exporting the CXX var. But this build essentials seems to be the part needed to glue it all together in the proper way
[09:48] <raphink> daHippo: that is the debian repos I guess
[09:48] <Madpilot> my bad, I'd forgotten there are Opera repos too
[09:48] <dooglus> daHippo: non-free?  you just told me it was free software
[09:49] <raphink> I don't use this repos daHippo
[09:49] <Madpilot> dooglus: free as in beer for Opera
[09:49] <raphink> lol
[09:49] <kapputu> thanks mustard5
[09:49] <daHippo> well, I don't know but that's what the ubuntu wiki says
[09:49] <mustard5> kapputu, good luck
[09:49] <daHippo> if you go to the website, you can DL it for free
[09:50] <Madpilot> daHippo: download the static deb version and install it - I cannot get the "Breezy Badger" version to actually run properly on Breezy - I've filed a couple of bugs w/ Opera about it
[09:50] <kapputu> thanks mustard5 , it feels weird, I have been using Ubuntu for almost an year now but not regularly
[09:50] <kapputu> I have to learn everything again now
[09:50] <Nitewalker> can anyone help me after unpacking the xine-lib tarball i cant get it to configure and install that particular part can anyone tell me how to get it to install that part?
[09:50] <raphink> I installed the static version daHippo
[09:51] <kapputu> I got rid of windows finally from my laptop and have two ubuntus
[09:51] <raphink> that's what you should do I tink
[09:51] <raphink> hink
[09:51] <gerbman> nite, what kind of error are you getting
[09:51] <kapputu> the old one was broken during a hoary unstable update but it still runs ok though a little slowly
[09:51] <Madpilot> raphink: you've had trouble with the non-static Breezy deb of Opera too?
[09:52] <raphink> no
[09:52] <raphink> I just installed static
[09:52] <raphink> there must be a reason for that
[09:52] <daHippo> I added it to the repository, and then searched for opera - found two instances.  The first "Opera" doesn't install riht and gives me an "libqt3c102-mt" error, so I tried the "Opera Static" and it installed fine.  But I also get the motif error, but I don't care so much about plugins.
[09:52] <raphink> so it must have been said somewhere to use static for ubuntu
[09:52] <mustard5> kapputu, ask any questions you need to
[09:52] <kapputu> mustard5, can you give me a link to install the media players and stuff or would ubuntuguide.org suffice?
[09:52] <mustard5> kapputu, I have better links
[09:52] <kapputu> I'm just curious as to whether ubuntuguide.org is up to date
[09:52] <daHippo> So yeah, I'm running the static version too.
[09:52] <onispawn> does anyone know how I can make it so my usb harddrive doesnt auto-mount as read only?
[09:53] <Madpilot> raphink: I'm running static right now, I think it might mention using it on the wiki's Opera page..
[09:53] <Nitewalker> gerbman,  when i go to use the ./configure make install it says that ./configure: no such file or directory and thats the same for the make install as well
[09:53] <kapputu> yes mustard5 I would be interested in them
[09:53] <raphink> anyway I don't like opera Madpilot so I don't use it
[09:53] <daHippo> Yes, I have a printout of the wiki
[09:53] <Madpilot> raphink: I couldn't function without it - Firefox is too limited and I can't be bothered to mess with all the extensions I'd need to get working in FF...
[09:53] <mustard5> kapputu, I would mention too, that in breezy there is a ubuntu starters guide in your system>>help menu
[09:53] <gerbman> nite, did you change into the directory containing 'configure'?
[09:53] <raphink> I only use Konqui Madpilot
[09:54] <raphink> FF is not very good either I agree
[09:54] <mustard5> kapputu, it has quite a bit of information on setting up for playing movies and music
[09:54] <kapputu> mustard5, I'm using a laptop - how do I configure the touch pad?
[09:54] <Madpilot> anyway, need sleep... later, all
[09:54] <mustard5> kapputu, that i'm not sure about ;)
[09:54] <Nitewalker> gerbman,  no cos it said it was going to put it in /usr/local but i dont know who to navigate there
[09:54] <daHippo> Well, on this box, opera is the only thing that runs decent.  FF is way slow here, but Opera screams.
[09:54] <mustard5> ubotu:tell kapputu about w32codecs
[09:54] <Nitewalker> gerbman,  im using the terminal feature and well im new to command line stuff
[09:55] <mustard5> ubotu:tell kapputu about msgthebot
[09:55] <raphink> daHippo: for gnome users maybe ;)
[09:55] <Madpilot> daHippo: try the static Opera deb, it does work fine in Breezy... Hoary didn't have these problems... :(
[09:55] <spackest> anyone here ever get mod_log_spread working for apache2 in 5.04 or 5.10?
[09:55] <onispawn> does anyone know how I can make it so my usb harddrive doesnt auto-mount as read only?
[09:55] <daHippo> yeah, but gnome works better on this box than KDE
[09:55] <mustard5> kapputu, you might find it easier to read the msgthebot instructions and talk to ubotu (the help bot) yourself
[09:55] <gerbman> nite, no problem....you need to change into the directory where you unpacked the tar
[09:56] <gerbman> configure should be there
[09:56] <daHippo> Madpilot:  I am using the static Opera deb
[09:56] <raphink> daHippo: gnome is faster than KDE when you have few programs, but KDE has many more options and is more performant when you run lots of apps at the same time
[09:56] <mustard5> kapputu, I can coach you on some of the most common keywords he recognises
[09:56] <rejden> aloha
[09:56] <raphink> daHippo: additionnaly I can't stand the way gnome looks ;)
[09:56] <rejden> anybody have some experience with ubuntu and sun ray server software?
[09:56] <Nitewalker> gerbman,  thanks i will try that now
[09:56] <kapputu> sure mustard5
[09:56] <kapputu> I'm ready
[09:57] <daHippo> Well, I just wanted to use this box primarily as a 'net box.
[09:57] <daHippo> Looks clean to me - and that's good, since I'm a neat freak :)
[09:57] <mustard5> kapputu, you can use the keywords like java mplayer w32codecs ummmm...can't think of others off the top of my head :)
[09:57] <mgcross> I need some help setting up shared folders...when I open the dialog box it's all greyed out
[09:57] <raphink> daHippo: same here, but net is a large thing ;) I run about 12 GUI apps on 12 desktops
[09:57] <raphink> full screen :)
[09:58] <kapputu> oops
[09:58] <mustard5> kapputu, for instance for java install instructions type /msg ubotu java  or /msg ubotu javadebs
[09:58] <kapputu> mustard5, I'm just getting a message 'java'
[09:58] <daHippo> Well, I used to do stuff like that, but I don't anymore.  Now my fastest workstation only has 3 monitors
[09:59] <mustard5> kapputu, look for the pm from ubotu...its sometimes takes a while to arrive
[09:59] <raphink> 3 dekstops you mean
[09:59] <kapputu> mustard5, the pm was just 'java' or 'javadebs'
[09:59] <onispawn> does anyone know how I can make it so my usb harddrive doesnt auto-mount as read only?
[10:00] <mustard5> kapputu, yeah...do you have a private message window open called ubotu?
[10:00] <kapputu> yes
[10:00] <Nitewalker> wheres the best place to get basic commands that you use in command line?
[10:00] <mustard5> kapputu look in there for the java stuff
[10:00] <mustard5> kapputu, he sends the answer to there
[10:00] <locomorto> hey mustard5 I got the latest version of mondo running on breezy!
[10:00] <locomorto> :)
[10:00] <kapputu> yes mustard5 that's what I did
[10:00] <mustard5> locomorto, yeah?
[10:00] <mustard5> locomorto, from that thread?
[10:01] <mgcross> I have two machines - one with two nics, using ics ala firestarter to give net access to the second machine. Both are running 5.10
[10:01] <locomorto> No that was an old version
[10:01] <kapputu> if I typed in / msg ubotu java I get a message in that window that just says 'java'
[10:01] <daHippo> Oh, I ment a triple display units - I don't use the desktop thing because I can't see the windows all simulaneously.
[10:01] <mustard5> locomorto, I read the thread I started a while ago and there was something about useing something from hoary
[10:01] <mgcross> can't get nfs to work..
[10:01] <kapputu> mustard5, how do I get the msg about w32codecs like you did?
[10:01] <cyphase> i haven't been following the Gaim issues that have been talked about recently..
[10:01] <cyphase> but does anyone think it may need to be forked?
[10:01] <mustard5> kapputu, no space between the / and msg
[10:01] <raphink> Nitewalker: try http://vic.gedris.org/Manual-ShellIntro/1.2/ShellIntro.pdf
[10:01] <raphink> seems quite good
[10:02] <locomorto> yeah, that was old and it wasn't a good way to do it (package names change == bad package management)
[10:02] <mustard5> kapputu, it is /msg ubotu java
[10:02] <mustard5> kapputu, is your nick registered?
[10:02] <gerbman> nite, or just type 'ls /bin' ;p
[10:02] <locomorto> !tell kapputu about java
[10:02] <kapputu> mustard5, I know I was just showing you what I typed since I wasn't sure if it would invoke the command
[10:02] <raphink> sure gerbman but that doesn't explain how to use them ;)
[10:02] <mustard5> kapputu, is your nick registered?
[10:02] <gerbman> 'man <cmd'
[10:02] <nalioth> mustard5: kapputu is not identified
[10:02] <mustard5> nalioth, doh
[10:02] <afd_> hi! my hardrive is working a lot in the last several days, and I don't know why. Is there any software that I can use to find out what's happening (Unbuntu Breezy user)
[10:03] <mustard5> kapputu, register your nick :)
[10:03] <mustard5> !register
[10:03] <locomorto> afd_: its probably dead
[10:03] <ubotu> rumour has it, register is type /msg nickserv help register
[10:03] <kapputu> mustard5, my nick is registered
[10:03] <raphink> Nitewalker: if you read the doc I sent you the url of, you'll have the basics
[10:03] <nalioth> kapputu: then identify
[10:03] <locomorto> afd_: but you can try spinrite to fix it
[10:03] <locomorto> afd_: its not free, or open source though
[10:03] <cyphase> afd_, try looking at the system monitor
[10:03] <cyphase> see if there are any programs that might be causing it
[10:04] <kapputu> mustard5, got that working, thanks
[10:04] <kapputu> mustard5, can I get a list of keywords?
[10:04] <mustard5> kapputu, sorry..I should have thought of that first ;)
[10:04] <spiral> hi
[10:04] <mgcross> any help on nfs?
[10:04] <mustard5> kapputu, ask ubotu about himself and find the way to his 'brain' :)
[10:04] <afd_> system monitor is broken. I've got the bublemon applet showing 20%, and the graphs in system monitor are showing 100% cpu usage
[10:05] <mustard5> kapputu, his brain is a website containing all keywords
[10:05] <cyphase> afd_, i think you probably have a rouge process or something
[10:05] <cyphase> lol
[10:05] <dooglus> daHippo: afd_ run "top" in a terminal window
[10:06] <kapputu> haha, do not play with me in any channel
[10:06] <dooglus> afd_ run "top" in a terminal window
[10:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mgcross about nfs
[10:06] <afd_> dooglus, any possibility to show disk activity
[10:06] <daHippo> what does that do?
[10:06] <kapputu> was ubotu written in Python?
[10:06] <dooglus> afd_: I wish I knew
[10:07] <dooglus> kapputu: ubotu is a blootbot apparently - you can google it
[10:07] <mustard5> kapputu, his brain is at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:08] <afd_> now the disk activity has stopped. Maybe it was that I've just boot up
[10:08] <dooglus> my internet access has gone away - I can't resolve any addresses, and I can't ping anything.  but this IRC connection is still working.  very weird.
[10:08] <dooglus> afd_: if you haven't booted for a day or so, the updatedb thing will run, making a list of all the files on your disk
[10:08] <dirkson> I'm getting the following error during boot. The last two lines of it repeat about fifty times. Does anyone know what exactly it's doing?
[10:08] <dirkson> NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86_64 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-7676  Fri Jul 29 13: 15:16 PDT 2005
[10:08] <dirkson> device-mapper: 4.4.0-ioctl (2005-01-12) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com
[10:08] <dirkson> device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[10:08] <dirkson> device-mapper: error adding target to table
[10:08] <dooglus> afd_: it runs the first time you boot each day, or at 7:30, whichever comes first
[10:09] <kapputu> mustard5, yeah I found that out, I was looking at the factoids
[10:09] <nalioth> dirkson: please dont paste in here
[10:09] <afd_> dooglus, thanks
[10:09] <rabeldable> dooglus: maybe your having a DNS problem
[10:09] <dooglus> rabeldable: maybe.  but I can't ping to ip addresses either, so I think it's more than that.
[10:09] <dirkson> Ah, er, sorry. Is there another way to get the message across?
[10:10] <mustard5> kapputu, k :)  that she keep you busy for a while ;)
[10:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dirkson about paste
[10:10] <mustard5> *should
[10:10] <intelikey> !paste
[10:10] <ubotu> it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:10] <nalioth> dirkson: see /topic also
[10:10] <rabeldable> dooglus: can you ping localhost?
[10:10] <kapputu> mustard5, do you remember how to install stuff from the source but still have apt know about it so that it can uninstall it?
[10:10] <dooglus> rabeldable: yes.  it's quite fast, too.
[10:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kapputu about checkinstall
[10:11] <mustard5> kapputu, not really, what are you wanting to install?
[10:11] <rabeldable> dooglus: what about your gateway?
[10:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mustard5 about checkinstall
[10:11] <dooglus> rabeldable: it's fine.  I can access the web server on the gateway, too
[10:11] <kapputu> mustard5, mplayer
[10:11] <mustard5> :)
[10:11] <mustard5> kapputu, mplayer is in the repositories
[10:11] <rabeldable> dooglus: but the problem is past that?
[10:11] <kapputu> mustard5, from Breezy?
[10:12] <rabeldable> dooglus: ping yahoo or google
[10:12] <dooglus> rabeldable: ping 64.233.187.99 tells me "17 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 15996ms" when I eventually control-c it
[10:12] <kapputu> mustard5, I had problems the last time I tried to install it from the repositories, had to compile src
[10:12] <dooglus> rabeldable: that's google.com (according to this machine I'm ssh'ed into for IRC'ing)
[10:12] <intelikey> i need a fether weight x terminal  ?
[10:12] <mustard5> kapputu, did you have trouble on hoary or breezy?
[10:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kapputu about mplayer
[10:13] <rabeldable> dooglus: try a telnet 64.233.187.99 80
[10:13] <mgcross> why does the shared folders gui not show anything? its all greyed out?
[10:13] <nalioth> mgcross: do you have multiple users on your box?
[10:13] <mustard5> kapputu, I havent seen anyone strike any issues on breezy
[10:13] <dooglus> rabeldable: Trying 64.233.187.99...
[10:13] <mgcross> nope...just one
[10:13] <kapputu> mustard5, I just installed breezy today after getting my laptop repaired
[10:14] <kapputu> ubuntu is very addictive, I ought to be sleeping now
[10:14] <nalioth> mgcross: then what are you going to share?
[10:14] <mustard5> kapputu, I'd install as much as possible from the standard repositories ...they tend to not be box breakers
[10:14] <rabeldable> dooglus: you say your ssh'd into a different box that does the irc?
[10:15] <dooglus> rabeldable: I would think that this whole situation could be explained by saying that the gateway box wasn't connected to the internet.  except - I'm currently talking to you!
[10:15] <mgcross> nalioth: I want to be able to transfer files between my two machines...one is acting as a gateway to the net (using firestarter and a second nic)
[10:15] <nalioth> mgcross: are they both *nix boxen?
[10:15] <lewion> how to identify??
[10:15] <dooglus> rabeldable: that's write.  I ssh into a shell, run 'screen' there, and irssi from inside screen.  then I can reboot without disconnecting from IRC
[10:15] <Ethan> hi, how can I give root right to a user?
[10:15] <kapputu> yeah some doofus suggested that I remove the firefox that comes from the repo and install manually, screwed up the system
[10:15] <mgcross> I can't print from the secong machine either...been though all the guides I can get my hands on...<sigh> stupid noob
[10:15] <dooglus> rabeldable: I can't ping the box that I'm ssh'ed onto though!
[10:15] <mustard5> Ethan, do you mean sudo?
[10:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lewion about register
[10:16] <dooglus> Ethan: "sudo adduser <username> admin"
[10:16] <rabeldable> dooglus: try a telnet 64.233.187.99 80 from the ssh'd box
[10:16] <mgcross> nalioth: yes, both breazy 5.10
[10:16] <Ethan> I dunno sudo, will try
[10:16] <marco> hey guys, i'm trying to make a mp3/data cd... what command/program should i use?
[10:16] <dooglus> rabeldable: that works, of course: "Connected to 64.233.187.99."
[10:16] <daHippo> Stupid question:  What is "sudo"?
[10:16] <dooglus> rabeldable: the ssh box is in a different country.
[10:16] <dooglus> daHippo: it allows you to run commands as root
[10:16] <rabeldable> sudo = super user do
[10:16] <kapputu> sudo - do as super user
[10:17] <daHippo> ah, thanks
[10:17] <Ethan> ~$ sudo adduser user admin
[10:17] <Ethan> Password:
[10:17] <Ethan> user is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[10:17] <Ethan> :$
[10:17] <intelikey> ooops E: Package libmad0 has no installation candidate
[10:17] <mustard5> Ethan, are you the admin on that machine?
[10:17] <dooglus> Ethan: you need to run it as a user who already has root privs...
[10:17] <rabeldable> dooglus: try a ping to the box thats having problems from the ssh box
[10:17] <dooglus> Ethan: otherwise where's the security?
[10:17] <Ethan> yup that was my problem
[10:17] <mustard5> Ethan, or have you just installed using expert install?
[10:17] <Ethan> ok that is fine now
[10:18] <dooglus> rabeldable: the router wouldn't forward ping requests to it
[10:18] <rabeldable> dooglus: see if its a one way problem or both way problem
[10:18] <Ethan> I used the gui to remove right to me and I was a bit confused after lol
[10:18] <marco> anyone know if there's a "nero" type of program that i can use for obuntu?
[10:18] <kapputu> I like ubuntu just for apt alone
[10:18] <lewion> it says my password is incorrect????
[10:18] <lewion> i made this nickname it cannot be
[10:18] <AxL> hi !
[10:18] <Ethan> k3b
[10:18] <dooglus> rabeldable: I can set up a forwarded port though and run a 'nc' listener on this box
[10:18] <AxL> Got az prob with grub
[10:18] <AxL> Ca nu help me please ?
[10:19] <b0uncer> az?
[10:19] <AxL> a prob sorry :)
[10:19] <mustard5> lewion, what is your problem?
[10:19] <b0uncer> ok :D
[10:19] <b0uncer> what's it like?
[10:19] <rabeldable> dooglus: when you caonnect to your router from the broke box can you see the IP information that it has assigned from your ISP?
[10:19] <lewion> mustard5, it keeps saying my pass is incorrect
[10:19] <mustard5> lewion, what does?
[10:19] <Nitewalker> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[10:19] <Nitewalker> See `config.log' for more details. i get this error when i try to configure xine-lib what do i need to do now?
[10:19] <AxL> b0uncer: can u help me on this please ?
[10:19] <lewion> mustard5, i made this nick so why should it be incorrect
[10:19] <marco> does anyone know what cd burning program i can use?
[10:19] <mustard5> lewion, in irc?
[10:20] <mgcross> nalioth: any idea why I can't use the shared folder dialog box...where should I start looking to fix it...was working, now, not
[10:20] <lewion> mustard5, ??
[10:20] <gerbman> nite, have you installed the 'build-essential' package?
[10:20] <Paradoxx> ...i want to burn a .avi file to DVD, so that it can be played in a dvd player, what application would you all recommend?
[10:20] <rabeldable> marco: gnomebaker
[10:20] <b0uncer> AxL, if you tell what the problem is?
[10:20] <b0uncer> :)
[10:20] <marco> rabeldable, thanks
[10:20] <onispawn> Paradoxx: there is a version of nero for linux
[10:20] <b0uncer> so I could perhaps try to help, at least
[10:20] <onispawn> or use gnomebaker
[10:20] <mustard5> lewion, someone else might have been using it first
[10:20] <Paradoxx> onispawn: free?
[10:20] <Nitewalker> gerbman,  what is that?
[10:20] <lewion> mustard5, look it says my nick is already registered, that maybe thrue cause i once registered myself 3 months ago
[10:21] <onispawn> paradoxx: its not free
[10:21] <mustard5> lewion, and you are using the same password from back then?
[10:21] <Paradoxx> figured..
[10:21] <lewion> mustard5, i dunno anymore
[10:21] <Paradoxx> onispawn: is there any other app out there?
[10:21] <Ethan> er ... how can I install dluxbox on ubunto ? apt-get search fluxbox outputs nothing but on debien I had it....
[10:21] <onispawn> gnomebaker is just as good as nero and is free
[10:21] <intelikey> marco k3b nautilus-cd-burner eroast xcdroast  and there are problably more gui cd burning apps ou
[10:21] <mustard5> lewion, thats the password you need then I would think
[10:21] <lewion> mustard5, damn
[10:22] <gerbman> nite, sorry, wrong thing....you need the c compiler
[10:22] <mustard5> lewion, register a new nick
[10:22] <dooglus> rabeldable: the remote ssh box can't talk back to my router, apparently.
[10:22] <mustard5> lewion,  or try to remember your password :)
[10:22] <Nitewalker> gerbman,  what is that how do i get that thing ?
[10:22] <dooglus> rabeldable: (except through the existing connection that I'm using for this IRC session...)
[10:22] <lewion> mustard5, how do you change the nick?
[10:22] <nalioth> mgcross: i have no idea about shared folders. try nfs (unix) or samba (*nix + windows)
[10:22] <gerbman> nite, search for the g++ package and install that...i should bring a bunch of other stuff with it
[10:23] <mustard5> lewion, /nick newnick
[10:23] <Ethan> /nick newnick
[10:23] <lewion> k
[10:23] <dpupp> got a problem, i cant seem to setup wep encryption properly in ubuntu. everything works without but when turned on in the router,ubuntu wont connect. im using key 3... but i dont see where to specify key 3.
[10:23] <intelikey> ethan apt-get install fluxbox
[10:23] <newnick> shit
[10:23] <newnick> :p
[10:23] <mustard5> not literally newnick  ;)
[10:23] <gerbman> nite, just curious...can you install the xine package?
[10:23] <newnick> ok
[10:23] <gerbman> instead of compiling from source
[10:23] <newnick> right
[10:23] <AxL> b0uncer: Got 3 entries in menu : Linux (+Kernels ...) + XP2 + XP1. XP1 is default. If i wait till timeout XP1 begins to load but doesn't : it just prints the menulist for itself. However if I press enter XP1 begins to load till the end ?! Curious ?!
[10:23] <[L|eWiOn] > voila
[10:23] <[L|eWiOn] > ok and now?
[10:24] <[L|eWiOn] > now register?
[10:24] <Nitewalker> gerbman,  i jst got that of the xine website if there is something like a package would would be easier
[10:24] <mustard5> [L|eWiOn] , thats a pain to type in
[10:24] <phiqtion> nalioth, how do i remove the icon that represents my mount folder in the desktop?
[10:24] <Ethan> intelikey,  like I said "apt-get search fluxbox outputs nothing"
[10:24] <mustard5> [L|eWiOn] , pick an easier one for people to use autocomplete on
[10:24] <gerbman> nite, there definitely is :)...install the xine-ui package i think
[10:24] <[L|eWiOn] > no can do
[10:24] <intelikey> of course you dont do apt-get search Ethan
[10:25] <Nitewalker> where would i go to find that?
[10:25] <Paradoxx> onispawn: will it aconvert the avis to the neccesary dvd format?
[10:25] <b0uncer> AxL, hmm...wait I think for a minute
[10:25] <gerbman> from the command line do 'sudo apt-get install xine-ui'
[10:25] <mustard5> [L|eWiOn] , ah well..I would get sick of typing your nick out personally :)
[10:25] <AxL> ok thx :)
[10:25] <phiqtion> how do i remove the icon in the desktop that represents my mount folder?
[10:25] <Ethan> If there is no fluxbox I don't understand how I would install it :p
[10:25] <mustard5> [L|eWiOn] , its a pain in the butt using shift characters like that when I am trying to autocomplete a nick
[10:25] <[L|eWiOn] > mustard5, you do that! :D
[10:25] <intelikey> Ethan you use apt-cache search      install it with 'sudo apt-get install fluxbox ' like i said.
[10:25] <[L|eWiOn] > it's not that hard
[10:26] <Ethan> yup cache
[10:26] <Ethan> it was I have done
[10:26] <Ethan> but i don't have fluxbox
[10:26] <dpupp> is wep encryption case sensitive?
[10:26] <intelikey> !repos
[10:26] <ubotu> I guess repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:26] <intelikey> Ethan ^
[10:26] <phiqtion> how do i remove the icon in the desktop that represents my mount folder?
[10:26] <Nitewalker> gerbman,  its installing some some stuff
[10:26] <[L|eWiOn] > hey i'm registered :)
[10:26] <onispawn> Paradoxx: no, but you can use transcode to convert it from .avi to dvd format a pretty decent guide to do that is http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=117709
[10:26] <gerbman> nite, that's good...so you just trying to get dvd playback to work?
[10:27] <b0uncer> AxL, did you get my /query ?
[10:27] <Ethan> fluxbox is not on ubuntu? Does ubuntu and debian have not the same "apps" ?
[10:27] <Paradoxx> onispawn: ty much dude, i'll give it a try
[10:27] <b0uncer> darn, msgs are denied :/ that sucks
[10:27] <kapputu> why can't I install xine?
[10:27] <b0uncer> AxL, this config is what works for me:
[10:27] <AxL> b0uncer : your query ?
[10:27] <b0uncer> title           Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
[10:27] <b0uncer> root            (hd0,1)
[10:27] <b0uncer> makeactive
[10:27] <b0uncer> chainloader     +1
[10:27] <b0uncer> sorry for pasting...
[10:27] <mustard5> b0uncer, are you registered?
[10:28] <icewt> Ethan: err... yes it is (?)
[10:28] <AxL> Bouncer : well it s not so simple for me because I have 2 hdd
[10:28] <intelikey> Ethan you are daff.  i just installed fluxbox with the command 'apt-get install fluxbox '  so add the repos like ubotu said and install it. !!!
[10:28] <onispawn> anyone know where the automount configurations are?
[10:28] <AxL> So I must do a map() map()
[10:28] <Pazzo> morning! I'm currently trying to create a preseed file allowing me to use my local breezy mirror during installation, but all my attempts failed - has anyone done something similar before??
[10:28] <mustard5> AxL, wait till he comes back ;)
[10:28] <[L|eWiOn] > ok i have a rpoblem
[10:28] <[L|eWiOn] > :(
[10:29] <mustard5> AxL, he was just kicked for pasting in channel
[10:29] <[L|eWiOn] > my floppy doesn't work
[10:29] <AxL> b0uncer : first hdd : Linux/XP2 Second:XP1
[10:29] <[L|eWiOn] > it keeps saying about a udi problem
[10:29] <[L|eWiOn] > ????
[10:29] <Ethan> root@Olympe:/home/user# apt-get install fluxbox
[10:29] <Ethan> Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
[10:29] <Ethan> Construction de l'arbre des dpendances... Fait
[10:29] <Ethan> E: Impossible de trouver le paquet fluxbox
[10:29] <[L|eWiOn] > Given UDI is not a mountable device?????????
[10:29] <AxL> mustard5: ?! He pasted 3 lines ?!!!
[10:29] <mustard5> Ethan don't paste in main channel plz Ethan
[10:30] <mustard5> AxL, read /topic
[10:30] <nalioth> AxL: see the /topic please
[10:30] <icewt> Ethan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/fluxbox
[10:30] <Nitewalker> gerbman,  i dont have a dvd player in my computer jst a cdrom
[10:30] <[L|eWiOn] > Given UDI is not a mountable device????????? anyo,e
[10:30] <Ethan> ok will use the past next time
[10:31] <kapputu> wxpython was used for the widgets right?
[10:31] <AxL> ok
[10:31] <nalioth> kapputu: correct
[10:31] <AxL> Pfff ...
[10:31] <Ethan> So how can I get fluxbox? :D
[10:32] <AxL> He s not here anymore ....
[10:32] <AxL> I m lost
[10:32] <AxL> :)
[10:32] <dooglus> rabeldable: hmmm.  I couldn't find the external IP address from the router's web pages.
[10:32] <[L|eWiOn] > mustard5, Given UDI is not a mountable device? what do i do??
[10:32] <[L|eWiOn] > mustard5, it's about floppy drive btw
[10:32] <icewt> Ethan: by enabling the universe repository in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:32] <AxL> Got to go ... nevermind :(
[10:32] <dooglus> rabeldable: what I did find though was a "reboot" button, so I clicked it.  when it came back, I had a new IP address, and my existing connection to the IRC machine was broken.  5 minutes later, everything started working again.
[10:32] <kapputu> any good reason why I should try out kubuntu?
[10:33] <dooglus> rabeldable: so the old tried-and-trusted "reboot" technique worked...
[10:33] <mustard5> [L|eWiOn] , I believe I have read something about a bug in breezy with regards to floppies
[10:33] <intelikey> you can't Ethan, it is not possable for you to have fluxbox.    cause this is not M$ windows..... sorry.
[10:33] <icewt> kapputu: because kde is better than gnome ?-)
[10:33] <gerbman> kapputu: i assumed you were using it, given your name ;p
[10:33] <rabeldable> dooglus: never fails - except when you reboot and a hard drive fails
[10:33] <hit3k> icewt, I got told off for that once
[10:33] <Ethan> icewt, how ? :$
[10:33] <[L|eWiOn] > mustard5, you don't know it?
[10:33] <Ethan> intelikey, ?
[10:33] <Nitewalker> gerbman,  its finished doing that command you gave me so now i should be able to watch my brothers wedding avi now?
[10:34] <kapputu> icewt, I have been using gubuntu for the past one year
[10:34] <mustard5> [L|eWiOn] , I don't know whether its related to your issue or not, but you can search the ubuntuforums if you like..you may find it is
[10:34] <[L|eWiOn] > mustard5, how can i say something in red to the whole channel?
[10:34] <gerbman> nitewalker, yea give it a shot...you might need the codecs but try first
[10:35] <kapputu> I intend to use automatix, any suggestions?
[10:35] <nalioth> [L|eWiOn] : please refrain from messaging the whole channel
[10:35] <mustard5> [L|eWiOn] , it only works for the nickname you type at the start...(which is related to why I wanted you to choose an easier nick;) )
[10:35] <Ethan> [L|eWiOn] , by using their name
[10:35] <gerbman> nitewalker, if the avi won't play check out http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#codecs
[10:35] <icewt> Ethan: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" - find the line where it says something about universe, remove the # in front of it, save the file, run "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get install fluxbox"
[10:35] <alxjvr> is there a way to optimize/tune-up ubuntu? my open windows sometimes just kind of hangs up for several seconds before reacting to any activities
[10:36] <mustard5> [L|eWiOn] , to make text appear red to you I have to type your nick at the start and you've made it harder for me to do it :)
[10:36] <onispawn> does anyone know anything about automount?
[10:36] <dooglus> rabeldable: I have been experimenting with some encrypted filesystems.  I have large image files on a remote Windows box.  I mount the windows share as a 'cifs' filesystem.  then I mount the image file as a 'loop' device using 'losetup'.  then I mount the loop device using 'cryptsetup'.  I'm using a 'reiserfs' filesystem on top of all that.  and about once a day it gets corrupted, according to reiserfsck.  where do you think the corruption gets introduced?
[10:36] <mustard5> onispawn, automounting windows drive script? or something else?
[10:37] <daHippo> daHippo does it work if you message yourself?
[10:37] <dooglus> alxjvr: are you short of RAM?
[10:37] <hit3k> Does anyone know how I add zones to the shorewall config?
[10:37] <onispawn> mustard5: kind of. I have a usb harddrive that is fat32. it automounts as read only so if I want to write to it I have to umount it and mount it again manually. I would like to avoid doing that and just have it automount as r/w
[10:37] <dooglus> alxjvr: run "free" in a terminal to see
[10:37] <icewt> kapputu: well, if you are happy with gnome and there's nothing missing it that you would need, i guess there's no reason to try kubuntu
[10:37] <[L|eWiOn] > mustard5, when i do mount /media/floppy0 it tells me to give the filesort
[10:38] <intelikey> dooglus how much ram do you have ?
[10:38] <mustard5> onispawn, join #kubuntu-offtopic and I will show you some stuff you can do
[10:38] <intelikey> and dooglus what does free say ?
[10:38] <[L|eWiOn] > so what do i do??? mount /media/floppy0 fat32 or something?
[10:38] <dooglus> intelikey: I have 384Mb
[10:38] <mustard5> [L|eWiOn] , search the ubuntuforums for answer
[10:39] <Nitewalker> how do i access the xine-ui ????
[10:39] <alxjvr> i only have 256MB base
[10:39] <alxjvr> dooglus, i only have 256MB base
[10:39] <dooglus> intelikey: and it says Mem:        total 354224     used 288196      free 66028
[10:39] <gerbman> nitewalker, should just be able to type 'xine' in the command line
[10:39] <dazvid> I need a program that will unrar mulitple rar files into one big file. Is that possible with linux?
[10:39] <alxjvr> dooglus, i have:              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[10:39] <alxjvr> Mem:        256100     251732       4368          0       9756     110856
[10:39] <dooglus> intelikey: what does free say for you (for total) and what do you really have?
[10:40] <Nitewalker> gerbman,  so xine-ui doesnt have a frontend player like totem?
[10:40] <[L|eWiOn] > figured it out by myself
[10:40] <intelikey> cmeme:         94616      92296       2320
[10:40] <dooglus> alxjvr: so you have 256Mb and free shows that you have 256100?
[10:40] <[L|eWiOn] > anyway thx for helping though
[10:40] <gerbman> nitewalker, yes it does...i've just always started it from the command line
[10:40] <alxjvr> dooglus,  only around 4MB free
[10:40] <intelikey> you always have a percentage free.....
[10:40] <alxjvr> dooglus, free = 4368
[10:41] <intelikey> but it is never very high.
[10:41] <gerbman> nite, but i use totem to play all my movies
[10:41] <dooglus> intelikey: I have about 20% free though - and lots of swap is used
[10:41] <[L|eWiOn] > wheres the boot file??? so i can change my floppy over there
[10:41] <Ethan> icewt, I am lost :p I have remove comment for 2 lines "breezy universe" but files con be found there...
[10:41] <dooglus> intelikey: I have 75Mb swap used, and 66Mb RAM free...  if only those 2 could get together :)
[10:41] <stimpie> I'am trying to compile E17 and I'am getting a linking error: /opt/e17/lib/libevas.so: undefined reference to `png_get_IHDR@PNG12_0'
[10:41] <Nitewalker> gerbman,  okay then when i tried totem it said i didnt have the right decoders for my avi
[10:41] <alxjvr> dooglus, funny, my swap is never used??? -> Swap:       746980          0     746980
[10:42] <Ethan> topic
[10:42] <[L|eWiOn] > ?
[10:42] <intelikey> well that is my totals 94616 m total    92296 m used    2320 m free   and no swap
[10:42] <gerbman> nitewalker, common problem....check out http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#codecs
[10:42] <intelikey> but i can start x and that wont change much
[10:42] <dooglus> alxjvr: I guess you don't run many big programs then.  I find that firefox alone gets to be over 100Mb pretty soon
[10:42] <[L|eWiOn] > mustard5, wheres the boot file located?? i mean the file where you can add floppy cd hard drives to boot
[10:42] <helvete> hi.... ummm where can i get some antispyware software for linux?
[10:43] <mustard5> [L|eWiOn] , I dont know
[10:43] <intelikey> what i am telling you is that 'free' doesn't tell ya much...
[10:43] <dooglus> alxjvr: here's a nice command:    ps -eo 'uname,pid,ppid,sz:6,stime,time,cmd' | perl -pe 'BEGIN{print scalar <>}sub fmt{sprintf "%9s ", sprintf "%.2fMb", (shift)/256.0} s/((?:\S+\s+){2}\S+)(\s+\S+)/&fmt($2).$1/e' | sort -n
[10:43] <alxjvr> dooglus, would prelinking help?
[10:43] <mustard5> [L|eWiOn] , oh../etc/fstab
[10:43] <mustard5> [L|eWiOn] , hehe
[10:43] <alxjvr> dooglus, what would that produce?
[10:43] <dooglus> alxjvr: it will show you your processes, sorted in order of memory usage
[10:43] <mustard5> [L|eWiOn] , type cat /etc/fstab to view it
[10:43] <[L|eWiOn] > mustard5, already had it nvm but heres what i  have for my floppy
[10:44] <[L|eWiOn] > /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[10:44] <nalioth> helvete: spyware? linux has no spyware iirc
[10:44] <[L|eWiOn] > mustard5, thx but i use gedit
[10:44] <alxjvr> dooglus, bulk of it is being used by gambas and apache
[10:44] <dooglus> alxjvr: I can't understand how anyone can fit into 256Mb of RAM without swapping...
[10:44] <alxjvr> dooglus, beats me
[10:44] <mustard5> [L|eWiOn] , seriously though, check for threads about a bug in breezy with floppies in the ubuntu forums
[10:45] <dooglus> I currently have 93Mb of firefox, 61Mb of skype, 46Mb of gnome-terminal - and that's all I'm running!
[10:45] <dooglus> that's almost 200Mb before I've started working :)
[10:45] <intelikey> dooglus i just told you i only have 98m here  and run kde in that with no swap.
[10:45] <Nitewalker> gerbman,  how do u get it to download dem codecs off that website
[10:45] <mustard5> [L|eWiOn] , use the search function in the forum
[10:45] <dooglus> intelikey: how?
[10:46] <intelikey> just turn swap off.
[10:46] <d^-_-^b> Where is the make file located in Ubuntu?
[10:46] <gerbman> nitewalker, did you follow the how-to guide?
[10:46] <d^-_-^b> ubotu, tell me where make file is
[10:46] <intelikey> make linux use the ram and not just allocate it out.
[10:46] <dooglus> intelikey: then programs would start crashing
[10:46] <intelikey> i'v only crashed one app that way
[10:46] <dooglus> I'll try it...
[10:47] <dooglus> ok so far...
[10:47] <Ae|-_GoD> Welly, my system does not load the fonts from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ or any other category in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/, any ideas, why?
[10:47] <johnm> intelikey: disabling swap is a bad idea.
[10:47] <Ethan> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4347 er .... is there a french ubuntu chan? :p
[10:47] <dazvid> I need a program that will unrar mulitple rar files into one big file. Is that possible with ubuntu? If so, what program?
[10:47] <d^-_-^b> Well, in Slackware, make is located in /usr/bin
[10:47] <intelikey> yeah ive been told that. johnm,  you're not the first.
[10:47] <Nitewalker> gerbman,  im jst in synaptic package manager searching for gstreamer is that right?
[10:47] <d^-_-^b> Where is it located in Ubuntu?
[10:47] <johnm> intelikey: besides.. if something is being swapped it's because it wants to free up cached ram for something which is more active. if you want to utilise swap less, then adjust the vm.swappiness value.
[10:48] <mustard5> d^-_-^b, install build-essential
[10:48] <_root_> is it possible to use a directory called named.d like httpd ?
[10:48] <gerbman> nitewalker, yup...just search exactly for what the guide says
[10:48] <mustard5> d^-_-^b, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:48] <johnm> intelikey: put it this way.. if you have somethign which memleaks the OOM killer will have a blast, and your system will very quickly become unusable.
[10:48] <d^-_-^b> mustard5, thanks
[10:48] <intelikey> johnm i did adjust it.   i turned swap off.
[10:48] <dooglus> intelikey: I don't have a printer, so cups isn't a problem
[10:48] <johnm> intelikey: with vm.swappiness?
[10:48] <Ae|-_GoD> anyone?
[10:49] <mustard5> Ae|-_GoD, I wish I knew :)
[10:49] <intelikey> no with root@host #swapoff -a
[10:49] <klaaner-libby> Hi :-) I'm just installing Ubuntu for a friend ... and I'm a Gentoo user ;-) Now, I have a dumb question: Why can't I install mplayer with Adept? mplayer _is_ there for ubuntu, isn't it?!
[10:49] <Nitewalker> gerbman,  so jst search for each thing that is listed?
[10:49] <mustard5> Ae|-_GoD, hang around and hope someone comes along that does
[10:49] <johnm> intelikey: yeah.. thats a really bad (wrong) way of doing it
[10:49] <gerbman> nitewalker, yes...and if you can't seem to find it you probably need to add the extra repositories...that is the first step in the guide
[10:50] <_root_> Nitewalker: can you please answer me ?
[10:50] <DigitalLF> hello im trying to get my firewall (WatchGuard SOHO 6) to send syslog to my ubuntu but how do i setup my sysklog so ever info from my firewall goes into /var/log/watchguard
[10:50] <DigitalLF> I am a n00b when it comes to this never realy cared about syslog before
[10:50] <intelikey> (wrong) way   lol    your way my way and "wrong way" lol   there is no right way  wrong way.....   this is linux where you don't have to do what M$ says with your software....
[10:51] <stevejesus> whats up guys
[10:51] <johnm> intelikey: there is a right way and wrong way
[10:51] <Nitewalker> _root_,  yes i didnt see your question
[10:51] <johnm> intelikey: and disabling it completely is wrong via swapoff.
[10:51] <dooglus> intelikey: turning off swap will mean that as soon as the programs you're running need more memory than you've got, they'll start failing.
[10:51] <dooglus> intelikey: that's the wrong way to get a more responsive system.
[10:52] <johnm> intelikey: "disabling" it by reducing the swappiness value is much much better nbecause it can still cope in severe cases
[10:52] <borup> johnm: actually there are several right ways - and many more wrong ones
[10:52] <stevejesus> i am talking to you from my brand-spankin new xubuntu install on a laptop i havent used for 4 years!!
[10:52] <stevejesus> i really like this.  i think i might switch to xfce
[10:52] <dooglus> intelikey: you're free to f**k up your system like that if you want, but that doesn't stop it being the wrong thing to do
[10:52] <johnm> borup: not really. there is effectively 1 right way, and 1 wrong way to reduce swapiness use.
[10:52] <johnm> borup: having no swap is the wrong way.
[10:52] <intelikey> johnm if you are one of the code monkeys that designed the kernel then you know the way it was designed to be used.  but i don't care how it is 'designed' to be used, this is my software.... it does what i say.
[10:53] <dorto> there are only three wallpapers in 'set desktop wallpaper' dialog box
[10:53] <dorto> i installed few wallpaper packages from aptitude
[10:53] <nalioth> stevejesus: try enlightenment dr17 when it comes out for ubuntu
[10:53] <dorto> where are they installed?
[10:53] <johnm> intelikey: fair enough, but then I'd suggest not recommending it to others as the solution. the correct and prefered way is to reduce the vm.swappiness value so it uses swap much less frequently.
[10:53] <stevejesus> xubuntu is great.  i cant wait to get extra lazy with this ancient laptop
[10:53] <intelikey> dooglus you are absolutly wrong about the "turning off swap will mean that as soon as the programs you're running need more memory than you've got, they'll start failing"   it doesnt work that way.
[10:53] <dorto> they are not in /usr/share/wallpapers
[10:53] <nalioth> dorto: /usr/share/wallpaper  or /usr/share/backgrounds/
[10:53] <johnm> intelikey: actually.. it pretty much does.
[10:53] <stevejesus> nalioth:  i was actually trying to install the beta last night via some unsupported repo i found
[10:54] <intelikey> johnm youve'
[10:54] <dooglus> intelikey: how does it work then?  how do the programs manage to use more memory that you have on-board if there's no swap?
[10:54] <stevejesus> nalioth:  then i fell asleep
[10:54] <johnm> intelikey: you can't allocate more ram than you physically have.
[10:54] <intelikey> tried it ?
[10:54] <dorto> nalioth: yeah, /usr/share/backgrounds :)
[10:54] <johnm> intelikey: Yes, and I also have been writing/working with kernel code for about 8 years.
[10:54] <nalioth> stevejesus: there is only one method i've found that works
[10:54] <dorto> from where can i download more wallpapers?
[10:55] <stevejesus> nalioth:  well ive decided to wait for the official  i really dont like installing packages im not sure about
[10:55] <johnm> intelikey: the VM subsystem and the hardware abstraction that goes on behind it mean that you will really face lots of problems. try doing what you're doing now with say, 64MB or so of ram.
[10:55] <dooglus> dorto: ddgirls.com
[10:55] <intelikey> they actually use /tmp and make their own swapfiles or something.... but they don't just start dying....  i've tested over running the ram many times, only one time did some thing actually die.
[10:56] <johnm> intelikey: they dnt fo that at all. they dont make "swapfiles"
[10:56] <Habbie> intelikey, applications do -not- automatically make their own swapfiles when they start running out of memory
[10:56] <DigitalLF> where to find info about ubuntu's sysklog?
[10:56] <intelikey> they use /tmp  i didn't ask them how.
[10:56] <stevejesus> i cant believe i was going to sell this clunker of a laptop.  this really runs well!  xubuntu!
[10:56] <DigitalLF> !tell digitallf sysklog
[10:57] <johnm> intelikey: swap is when pages in memory are too infrequently read to be useful in fast access memory, and as such are "swapped" to a much larger, reserve style memory which happens to be (most often) on HDs
[10:57] <DigitalLF> hehe worth a try :)
[10:57] <dorto> dooglus: lol, the name of the website suggests it contains wallpapers of THOSE kind ;)
[10:57] <stevejesus> now i just have to get this random 802.11a card working with it
[10:57] <johnm> intelikey: you will never see an application purposefully kicking off a "swapfile" somewhere because the machine is out of memory. the linux kernel simply doesn't work like that
[10:57] <Ethan> er ... I have a problem with the universe repository : it can't be found....
[10:57] <dooglus> dorto: you gave us an incomplete spec to work with.
[10:58] <dorto> k, let me try again
[10:58] <johnm> intelikey: the kernel OOM killer will have a killing spree when that happens without swap. jut as it would if you were to fully utilise both swap nd physical ram.
[10:58] <johnm> intelikey: otherwise, whats the point in the OOM killer even existing?
[10:58] <dooglus> johnm: I believe that the gimp will make a 'swap file' for itself, but it's uncommon in doing so
[10:58] <dorto> where can i download wallpapers for my debian OS which have 'gnu/linux' or 'ubuntu' feel in it?
[10:58] <dorto> oops
[10:58] <dorto> for ubuntu os
[10:59] <johnm> dooglus: but thats something totally different. thats application design, and has nothign to do with memory allocation of the application.
[10:59] <stevejesus> i think i might have to give quake2 a shot on this relic
[10:59] <nalioth> dorto: art.ubuntu.com
[10:59] <dorto> okie, thx
[10:59] <nalioth> dorto: gnome-look.org, www.deviantart.com
[11:00] <luans> some1 tell me how to install tar.gz files plz....
[11:00] <nalioth> luans: what pkg are you wanting out of it?
[11:00] <Ethan> Is there anyone here using the universe repository?
[11:01] <nalioth> Ethan: most of us do
[11:01] <luans> malioth, comix
[11:01] <Ethan> It can't be found
[11:01] <Ethan> and I don't know why
[11:01] <Ethan> :$
[11:01] <intelikey> i didn't write the code johnm, i just know that there is no swap partition nor swap file any place on this system and i can run kde mozilla konqueror konsole kword and xchat all at the same time with bx running in a console, and when i switch from gui to console and back it has to read from the hd cause the 98m of ram was used up before i got the third mozilla loaded.....  so you tell me what it is doing in /tmp   and why n
[11:01] <luans> malioth, a reading program for .cbr files
[11:01] <nalioth> luans: yes, i read .cbr and .cbzs
[11:01] <Ethan> I have remove 2 comments /etc/apt/sources.list ....
[11:02] <luans> malioth, soo.....
[11:02] <intelikey> those are the facts ^ make what ever you will out of it.
[11:02] <luans> malioth, i dl the file on desktop, just dunno how to install it
[11:03] <Ethan> Can anyone help me to get the universe repository?
[11:03] <helvete> ummm where can i get some antispyware software for linux?
[11:03] <Hobbsee> !tell Ethan about repositories
[11:03] <johnm> intelikey: where did /tmp even come into the equasion? some applications might purposefully use /tmp or something for caching data. I'll assume mozilla caching webdata. it's not a bit thing to do, but what you were saying earlier is totally incorrect.
[11:04] <johnm> intelikey: and realistically, they arent the facts. they're something totally unrelated :)
[11:04] <Hobbsee> !tell Ethan about sources
[11:04] <gypsymauro> hi
[11:04] <luans> .....ne1?
[11:04] <Ethan> Hobbsee,  ?
[11:04] <Hobbsee> Ethan: check your private messages from ubotu
[11:04] <Ethan> Oo
[11:04] <luans> mustard5, mustard u ther?
[11:04] <gypsymauro> I've a problem using apt-proxy  & ubuntu , I get an error trying to access to universe and multiverse archive, MD5sum error..any hint?
[11:05] <Hobbsee> !tell gypsymauro about gpgerr
[11:05] <mustard5> luans, ?
[11:05] <intelikey> totally un related?   hmmm odd.
[11:05] <luans> mustard5, eh u noe how to install tar.gz files?
[11:05] <nalioth> luans: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[11:05] <Hobbsee> gypsymauro: see your PM from ubotu
[11:05] <luans> mustard5, i dl the file on desktop alrdy n duno how to install
[11:05] <Ethan> Hobbsee,  will try the gui solution and I come back :p
[11:06] <Hobbsee> Ethan: cool
[11:06] <nalioth> luans: we can help you in #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:06] <luans> malioth, ok how to
[11:06] <nalioth> luans: type /j #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:07] <gypsymauro> Hobbsee: I saw but I think now it's a apt-proxy problem then.. cause I already done yesterday what PM says ..I think apt-proxy is caching a wrong Packages.gz
[11:07] <dorto> saving individual wallpapers is inefficient; aren't there any apt packages bundling wallpapers made for ubuntu desktop that i can download in one go?
[11:08] <dooglus> intelikey: I guess what was happening was that parts of the cache were being freed to be used for the new apps you ran.
[11:08] <dooglus> intelikey: as for the disk being used, I don't know.  it there's no swap, why would it access the disk?
[11:08] <gwark> wasnt there some sort of skin-calander wallpaper for ubuntu ?
[11:08] <helvete> hmm ok what could i use to emulate windows games on ubuntu?
[11:08] <vie|shuttle> hey everyone
[11:08] <vie|shuttle> :)
[11:09] <gwark> helvete   wine .... xwine .... cedega ....
[11:09] <johnm> dooglus: because mozilla has an on-disk cache for websites/images etc?
[11:09] <intelikey> dooglus that's the point..... after you do use up all free ram it starts writting to disk.....  i don't know why.  but i know it does.
[11:09] <vie|shuttle> downloading ubuntu this is going to be my 1st linux install anyone have any tips?
[11:09] <dooglus> johnm: not in /tmp it doesn't...  it's in ~/.mozilla by default in ubuntu.
[11:09] <johnm> dooglus: also konquerer etc have on-disk cache for thumbnails and thigns as well
[11:09] <johnm> dooglus: who said anything about /tmp?
[11:10] <dooglus> johnm: as an experiment, I've disabled swap, and written a while(1) { malloc(10 megs); wait for key press} loop
[11:10] <intelikey> it doesn't start crashing things, it starts 'swapping' to hd    i don't know what data or why or how.  but i know it works.
[11:10] <dooglus> johnm: it started off dropping 10 megs from cache usage each time I hit a key - but then it started doing a whole lot of disk activity...
[11:10] <dooglus> dooglus: intelikey said something about /tmp I think
[11:10] <Ethan> Hobbsee, seems to work, thanks
[11:11] <intelikey> johnm i said it starts writing to /tmp     and yes i've used  du to see where it was writing to
[11:11] <johnm> dooglus: yeah, but I feel it was a blind reference.
[11:11] <johnm> intelikey: du doesn't really show that. you need to check out the pid file descriptors to be sure.
[11:11] <theturtle> hey dumb question, anyone know wehere i might find a good sources.list for Breezy
[11:11] <johnm> anyways... lets leave it as this: having no swap is a bad idea. if you want to use less swap, turn down vm.swappiness.
[11:12] <vie|shuttle> omg i feel like a n00b i have no idea what any of you are talking about
[11:12] <dooglus> johnm: me too.  I started off with the notion that intelikey didn't have a clue what he was talking about - but I'm seeing a lot of disk activity as I approach meltdown too...
[11:12] <vie|shuttle> this is what happens when u run start on windows and never use linux :(
[11:12] <dooglus> johnm: 1. where is vm.swappiness? 2. what is all the disk access in low-memory conditions with swap disabled?
[11:13] <johnm> dooglus: /proc/sys/vm/swappiness (which is sysctl key vm.swapiness)
[11:13] <theturtle> accessing files most likely dooglus
[11:13] <linuxgeek2> !hi
[11:13] <ubotu> hi!
[11:13] <linuxgeek2> !fonts
[11:13] <ubotu> fonts is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[11:13] <linuxgeek2> !hi
[11:13] <Secreth`X> Someone can help my out making my .mpeg files work?
[11:14] <intelikey> no johnm ill leave it at this.  when i use a swap partition the system runs slower up to the point where without swap it has to start writing someplace and then it runs slower without swap....   so i won't use swap and when it tells me i've exceded the ram i'll close something...
[11:14] <linuxgeek2> !touchpas
[11:14] <ubotu> linuxgeek2: Are you smoking crack?
[11:14] <linuxgeek2> !touchpad
[11:14] <ubotu> linuxgeek2: I don't know
[11:14] <linuxgeek2> !laptop
[11:14] <ubotu> it has been said that laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[11:14] <johnm> dooglus: the PID of the application your using... check out /proc/*/fd/* and see what it's doing
[11:15] <linuxgeek2> !laptop touchpas
[11:15] <ubotu> linuxgeek2: No idea
[11:15] <linuxgeek2> !laptop touchpad
[11:15] <ubotu> linuxgeek2: Not a clue
[11:15] <vie|shuttle> linux is scary
[11:15] <johnm> intelikey: All I can suggest is if you really want to learn more about all this stuff, then advice is probably a good thing to follow. At the end of the day, whart you're doing is totally up to you, but please dont recommend to others bad practice.
[11:16] <dooglus> johnm: there are 3 fds: 0, 1 and 2.  all are symlinks to /dev/pts/1
[11:16] <dooglus> johnm: it's a very simple C while loop.  a malloc and a getchar()
[11:16] <johnm> dooglus: so it hasnt opened any file decriptors.
[11:16] <linuxgeek2> hi folks how do I configure my touchpad in ubuntu
[11:16] <intelikey> you say it's bad pratice.   i say it's good pratice on this box or any like it.
[11:16] <dooglus> johnm: so why's the disk spinning like mad, and this chat client can't keep up with my typing!
[11:16] <linuxgeek2> It's not working properly
[11:17] <vie|shuttle> because ur hd sucks :)
[11:17] <dooglus> johnm: I'm not running mozilla by the way, or anything like it...
[11:17] <linuxgeek2> they folks
[11:17] <linuxgeek2> help me out
[11:17] <linuxgeek2> !help
[11:18] <intelikey> dooglus used up all the ram and now the kernel or the apps one are looking for some place to swap to ?????
[11:18] <dooglus> intelikey: I can see why you might think that, indeed
[11:18] <fatehaze> Can anyone direct me to a web list of all the available Synaptic packages?
[11:18] <Secreth`X> Someone can help me out making my .mpeg files work?
[11:19] <KoopaP> does ubuntu come with apache and mysql?
[11:19] <intelikey> dooglus you know you can open more apps....  it just does more disk activity and the box gets slower....
[11:19] <intelikey> i've pushed it to the point it was too slow to do anything on but only one app ever died.
[11:20] <johnm> dooglus: without being sat there to diagnose I can't specifically tell you why.
[11:20] <fatehaze> I'm trying to get a friend to switch to Ubuntu, and I'd like to woo her with all the available math and science packages
[11:21] <gf-boyer> bonjour  tous
[11:21] <keiron> hi
[11:21] <nalioth> fatehaze: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:21] <keiron> can someone please tell me the command to edit the xorg configuration?
[11:21] <fatehaze> Phat, thanks :D
[11:21] <keiron> !x
[11:21] <ubotu> keiron: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:21] <theturtle> anyone got a good current sources.list for Breezy?
[11:21] <keiron> !xorg
[11:21] <ubotu> somebody said xorg was sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell theturtle about sources
[11:21] <johnm> dooglus: I'd rather not do it on this machine atm, since Im in work and have stuff going in the background.. but feel free to mail me results and I'll clarify properly if your interested. (johnm@gentoo.org)
[11:22] <gf-boyer> je viens d'installer edubuntu et j'ai besoin d'aide (need help please)
[11:22] <nalioth> !fr
[11:22] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:22] <hai> hi all. i have a quick question.  i just installed mysql and php5... where doi go to put files on the localhost?
[11:22] <nalioth> gf-boyer: anlais ici, franais en #ubuntu-fr, s'il vous plait
[11:23] <ke> Is it possible to remove the boot selector if I choose not to use two partitions anymore? I run WinXP on c:\ and want to run ubuntu on a second drive
[11:23] <johnm> dooglus: btw.. the actual kernel version, patchset, and schedular you're using will all potentially effect this as well.
[11:23] <hai> ah! ha! i found it.  in the var file. thanks!
[11:23] <Secreth`X> !sources.list
[11:24] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:24] <intelikey> johnm me thinks dooglus may have pushed it to the point it is like trying to use a 80286 to compile a kernel.....
[11:24] <ubuntu> !help
[11:24] <johnm> intelikey: you do realise btw hat setting vm.swappiness to something like 10, will mean swap is used exceptionally rarely and you will get a much better all-round performance anyways.
[11:24] <gf-boyer> re bonjour  tous; y'a eu un bug et j'ai t coup
[11:24] <linuxgeek2> hwo do I configure the touchpad in ubuntu linux
[11:24] <linuxgeek2> ?
[11:24] <theturtle> thanks
[11:24] <linuxgeek2> It's not working
[11:24] <ubuntu> !list
[11:24] <ubotu> well, list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:24] <dooglus> johnm: I worked out what all the disk access was - it's dumping core, I think :)
[11:24] <intelikey> yeah,  i don't have the room to swap anyway.
[11:24] <gf-boyer> comment fait-on pour aller sur le salon ubuntu en franais svp?
[11:24] <johnm> dooglus: that wouldn't surprise me.
[11:25] <dooglus> johnm: it's a kind of swapping :)
[11:25] <dooglus> writing ram to hard disk...
[11:25] <johnm> dooglus: heh, the kind that isn't really swapping at all you mean? :)
[11:25] <intelikey> dooglus did anything crash ?
[11:25] <dooglus> intelikey: yes: Program terminated with signal SIGKILL, Killed.
[11:25] <dooglus> The program no longer exists.
[11:25] <dooglus> I don't know who is sending it the KILL signal, but something is
[11:25] <bigkahuna> how can I extract the contents of a rar file in brezzy?
[11:25] <johnm> dooglus: the OOM killer.
[11:26] <dooglus> bigkahuna: "unrar x <rarfile>"
[11:26] <intelikey> hmmm what was the program ?
[11:26] <dooglus> intelikey: it was a small malloc() loop I wrote
[11:26] <bigkahuna> dooglus: Thanks
[11:26] <johnm> dooglus: it's the job of the OOM killer to kill applicatins when you run out of memory.
[11:26] <Secreth`X> for what platform is MPlayer?
[11:26] <johnm> dooglus: hence the name :) (Out Of Memory Killer). linux Docs should explain if you're interested.
[11:27] <dooglus> I never see 'core files in ubuntu.  are they disabled?  or written somewhere other than the cwd?
[11:27] <AngryClip> can someone take a look at for me. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88600 I can't seem to prevent ehci_hcd from loading, even though it is blacklisted
[11:27] <scx>  Someone here has built a windows' autorun  ?  ( Hello,  :-D )
[11:28] <theturtle> scx- ?? that has what to do wit ubuntu ? :D
[11:28] <intelikey> but johnm you say the kernel affects all this ?    all my testing has been with 2.4.25mdk kernel   is there a know differance in the way they process oom actions ?
[11:28] <theturtle> http://autorun.moonvalley.com/autoruninf.htm
[11:29] <rabeldable> dooglus: core files are usually placed in the directory where the app is ran from
[11:29] <Secreth`X> hmm
[11:29] <Secreth`X> is cedega for free or not?
[11:29] <dooglus> rabeldable: right.  but I don't see them.  even if I kill a process with SEGV it doesn't leave a core
[11:29] <AngryClip> Secreth`X, no, you have to purchase it
[11:29] <rabeldable> for example, if you were in /var/log and ran an ls which created a core file, you would see a core file in /var/log
[11:29] <Secreth`X> AngryClip, to bad :(
[11:29] <AngryClip> Secreth`X, some people have had success using the free WINE
[11:29] <johnm> intelikey: quite possibly yes. you can disable the oom killer if you really want to. for all I know MDK might do that.
[11:30] <scx> theturtle: nothing really,... except I'm a Ubuntu user and guessing,... :D
[11:30] <dooglus> Secreth`X: the source code is available, but it's not free.  they say that if people compile and distribute the source code then they'll not make the source available in future
[11:30] <Secreth`X> Yes
[11:30] <Seveas> goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning Ubuntu lovers :)
[11:30] <linuxgeek2> it's afternun here
[11:30] <Secreth`X> dooglus, ok
[11:30] <linuxgeek2> lol
[11:30] <johnm> dooglus: you can force it to not dump cores at compiletime iirc.
[11:30] <dooglus> johnm: I used "gcc mal.c"
[11:30] <Secreth`X> AngryClip, I dont have success with wine
[11:30] <BioNik> Hello, how do i change my locale & encoding ? i don't like utf-8 :/
[11:30] <dooglus> johnm: no flags at all
[11:31] <Secreth`X> AngryClip, I cant even seem to compile it.
[11:31] <johnm> dooglus: should work.
[11:31] <dooglus> BioNik: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:31] <AngryClip> Secreth`X, what is the error
[11:31] <johnm> dooglus: no CFLAG env or anything?
[11:31] <intelikey> Secreth`X why compiling ?    apt-get it
[11:31] <dooglus> johnm: nothing.
[11:31] <Secreth`X> AngryClip, A very weird one
[11:32] <Secreth`X> intelikey, under what name?
[11:32] <intelikey> xwine ?   is it
[11:32] <intelikey> no just plain wine.
[11:32] <Secreth`X> ok
[11:33] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install wine
[11:33] <BioNik> dooglus: thanks
[11:33] <Secreth`X> intelikey, thanks!
[11:34] <AngryClip> can someone take a look at for me. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88600 I can't seem to prevent ehci_hcd from loading, even though it is blacklisted
[11:34] <John__Doe> Hallo Leute, hi folks...
[11:35] <Secreth`X> intelikey, I apt-get it. But where is it now?
[11:36] <AngryClip> Secreth`X, try: wine /path/to/some/win/install/exe
[11:36] <Secreth`X> ok :D
[11:36] <bigkahuna> Does anybody know how to change the default keyboard mappings? Im using the new Apple II keyboard and it works great, however some of the keys are specific to the Mac OS. Can I reassign these keys?
[11:36] <intelikey> installed....   use  "wine something.exe "   assuming you have a valid use for wine secreth`x
[11:37] <Secreth`X> AngryClip, intelikey, thanks!
[11:37] <dooglus> johnm: here's a teeny example: echo 'main(){while(1){system("date");sleep(1);}}' > loop.c; gcc loop.c; ./a.out & sleep 3; pkill -SEGV a.ou
[11:37] <dooglus> johnm: that should make a core, right?  it kills a running process with a SIGSEGV.  I don't see a core from it
[11:38] <intelikey> Secreth`X you can also assocate that file extention with wine and just clicking on .exe files will run wine blah.exe
[11:39] <AngryClip> bigkahuna, GNOME Start Menu->System->Pref->Keyboard Shortcut ?
[11:39] <Secreth`X> ok intelikey I`ll try
[11:39] <intelikey> tell nautilus to open with  and type in wine     i think              i'm not a gnome user someone can tell you how to
[11:39] <Secreth`X> zomg!
[11:39] <Secreth`X> It worked!
[11:39] <Secreth`X> I love you guys :D
[11:41] <bigkahuna> AngryClip: Thanks! It works.
[11:41] <KoopaPoopa> i'm having real trouble getting my pcmcia network card working
[11:41] <KoopaPoopa> it claims DHCP is succesfull on installation, but i don't have an address
[11:42] <KoopaPoopa> and if i set one manually, no packets get sent or receieved
[11:43] <intelikey> name of default terminal ?
[11:45] <intelikey> everybody gone ?
[11:46] <GNULinuxer> intelikey: no
[11:46] <intelikey> can some one tell me the name of the default term app ?
[11:46] <ahmes> not everybody
[11:46] <intelikey> is xterm on the disk ?
[11:46] <dooglus> intelikey: http://kerneltrap.org/node/3000 is an interesting discussion of swap vs. cache
[11:47] <GNULinuxer> intelikey: gnome-terminal
[11:47] <AngryClip> intelikey, gnome-terminal... not sure of the kubuntu equivlant
[11:47] <intelikey> ok thanks guys
[11:48] <agtnz> konsole is kde terminal i think
[11:48] <GNULinuxer> intelikey: konsole in Kubuntu
[11:48] <agtnz> snap
[11:49] <intelikey> GNULinuxer yeah i don't have a kub cd.
[11:50] <Ruspu> I'm really new with linux. so I would like to ask when I try to update ubuntu it givs me this answer  "GPG error: http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>" . what must I do?
[11:50] <GNULinuxer> intelikey: gnome-terminal should be installed by default
[11:50] <intelikey> :)
[11:51] <GNULinuxer> Ruspu: change your sources.list ... use us.archive.ubuntu.com instead of fi.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:52] <intelikey> i found xterm on the cd.         GNULinuxer you assume a default install, if it had been i would not have asked for a terminal name...   expert server and then added what i needed and removed some things i didn't.   disk space is really tight on a single 500m hd you know.
[11:53] <Ruspu> Ok I try
[11:53] <GNULinuxer> intelikey: i see ... in that case, install xterm
[11:53] <intelikey> thank you :)
[11:53] <goon> my GNOME desktop doesn't start any more
[11:54] <goon> but XFCE does
[11:54] <goon> what log should I look?
[11:54] <GNULinuxer> goon: are there any errors?
[11:54] <ahmes> does anyone know why xmms plays songs but nothing comes out my speakers ? (speackers are plugged in, volume is maximum)
[11:54] <goon> GNULinuxer, I don't know where to look for
[11:55] <goon> GNULinuxer, but no, I onley get a marroon screen after GDM
[11:55] <GNULinuxer> goon: hmm ...
[11:55] <intelikey> goon when you say "<goon> my GNOME desktop doesn't start any more"  how are you attempting to start gnome ?
[11:55] <agro1986> help. I want to install w32codecs_20050412+breezy0.0.1_all.deb OFFLINE. I already have windows-all-20050412.zip. Is there any way to tell the installed to use the file I donwloaded??? thanks
[11:55] <goon> intelikey, yeah, I start it from GDM
[11:55] <goon> intelikey, but XFCE works :/
[11:55] <agro1986> help. I want to install w32codecs_20050412+breezy0.0.1_all.deb OFFLINE. I already have windows-all-20050412.zip. Is there any way to tell the installeR to use the file I donwloaded??? thanks
[11:56] <GNULinuxer> agro1986: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[11:56] <pymatt> goon, probably gnome session is corrupted, try deleting ~/.gnome2/session
[11:57] <intelikey> k try  'rm ~/.*authority  ~/.gnome2/session '  in a console and restart it goon
[11:58] <toresbe> hey guys...
[11:58] <toresbe> Is it possible to use the Marillat sources with Ubuntu?
[11:58] <highvoltage> toresbe: it's not recommended.
[11:58] <toresbe> highvoltage: why?
[11:59] <highvoltage> marillat sources are meant for debian, it can break your ubuntu at any stage.
[11:59] <toresbe> hmm
[11:59] <highvoltage> why? well, packages in that sources list will probably be compiled against libc5
[11:59] <highvoltage> ubuntu is libc6.
[11:59] <toresbe> Marillat has sid packages too
[11:59] <highvoltage> there's lots of other things too. debian and ubuntu aren't binary compatible.
[11:59] <toresbe> That's libc6, innit?
[11:59] <highvoltage> if you can avoid it, don't use it.
[12:00] <toresbe> beh... It's annoying to have to chroot into my old debian partition to be able to play... anything, really
[12:00] <Secreth`X> Is there a multimedia guru in the house?
[12:00] <highvoltage> like what? universe contains a huge amount of software.
[12:00] <highvoltage> in multiverse, you can also find mplayer, that plays everything i can find.
[12:01] <toresbe> highvoltage: I've installed mplayer from multiverse
[12:01] <toresbe> among other things it's not too happy about binary-only codecs
[12:01] <Secreth`X> for wich platform is MPlayer?
[12:01] <toresbe> all
[12:01] <Secreth`X> hmm
[12:01] <Secreth`X> sudo apt-get install mplayer ?
[12:01] <toresbe> It needs both libdvdcss and w32codecs... none of which are installable
[12:02] <toresbe> No, recommends, apologees
[12:02] <intelikey> lol i found a bug in 5.04 ,   installed xterm on top of fluxbox and it tries to start "BASH" in place of "bash"  lol...
[12:02] <agro1986> test
[12:02] <toresbe> agro1986: Nope, not working ;)
[12:03] <intelikey> i'm not sure where that is, but for a work around i just symlinked bash & BASH    :)
[12:03] <toresbe> hah...
[12:03] <toresbe> odd
[12:04] <intelikey> someone should check in on breezy to make sure it doesn't do the same.
[12:04] <goon> it worked, thanks guys!
[12:04] <bascuppen> intelikey, I'm on it ;)
[12:04] <Secreth`X> yay! MPlayer CAN play my .mpeg files while totem doesnt seem to can
[12:06] <intelikey> bascuppen just a note i don't have ubuntu-* installed although i don't think that would affect this.
[12:06] <intelikey> i'll see if i can spot the problems cause
[12:06] <Secreth`X> Where can I find some fonts? MPlayer is asking for one o_O
[12:07] <nalioth> Secreth`X: install mplayer-fonts
[12:08] <Secreth`X> nalioth, thanks
[12:08] <bru> hi all
[12:09] <onkarshinde> Why isn't OOo2 updated in Ubuntu to final release?
[12:09] <bimberi> !ooo2
[12:09] <ubotu> Test packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html
[12:10] <aeon17x> onkarshinde: because the Debian folks want to be sure it wouldn't break anything, and besides RC1 is pretty close to the final release.
[12:10] <dooglus> onkarshinde: because ubuntu's releases are stable.  they don't get changed after release other than for security or other important fixes
[12:10] <dorto> how to add file manager to gnome panel?
[12:10] <onkarshinde> dooglus: I am talking about OOo2 hwich is RC in Breezy
[12:11] <soundray> dorto: Try "Places"
[12:11] <dorto> dragged and dropped it ...
[12:11] <deFrysk> onkarshinde, OO.o.2 is available
[12:11] <dooglus> onkarshinde: when breezy was released, OO.o2 wasn't.
[12:11] <deFrysk> from another repo
[12:11] <onkarshinde> dorto: Right click and then add to panel, add launcher. This way you can add any menu item
[12:11] <soundray> Guys: Why is sudo -i considered safer than sudo bash?
[12:11] <vie|shuttle> i was just trying to install ubuntu and when i hit enter to install it sits and does nothing after this one spot
[12:11] <vie|shuttle> what is the problem?
[12:12] <shinu> how do i create a tar.gz from a folder?..
[12:12] <dooglus> soundray: sudo -i gives you root's environment rather than your own
[12:12] <onkarshinde> shinu: tar -xvf foldername and then gzip filename.tar
[12:12] <dooglus> soundray: so you'll have root's PATH, rather than your own path, which might include all kinds of dodgy stuff
[12:12] <vie|shuttle> ubuntu doesnt need more than 5gigs right?
[12:12] <bimberi> soundray: for example see the result of "echo $HOME" for each
[12:13] <dorto> onkarshinde: it was not showing apps from 'places' menu
[12:13] <dooglus> shinu: careful.  tar xvf will extract a tar archive, not create it.
[12:13] <shinu> onkarshinde: i see, just though that there might be some other one-command way :P thanks a lot
[12:13] <bimberi> vie|shuttle: no
[12:13] <dorto> what audio file format(s) does Rhythm Box play?
[12:13] <onkarshinde> dorto: I suppose you needed to add file manager. It is available in Accessories menu (breezy) or System Tools (Hoary)
[12:13] <dooglus> shinu: the correct answer is "tar cfz folder.tgz folder"
[12:13] <soundray> dooglus, so if I trust my user environment no less than root's, it doesn't matter?
[12:13] <shinu> dooglus: tar xvf different from tar -xvf then?..
[12:13] <shinu> dooglus: ah! thanks :D
[12:14] <dooglus> soundray: fill your boots!  :)
[12:14] <Secreth`X> btw nalioth do you still remember me? :P
[12:14] <dorto> onkarshinde: file manager(Home Folder) is available in 'places' menu and i dragged to the panel and it worked
[12:14] <soundray> dooglus, what?
[12:14] <nalioth> Secreth`X: from where? are you my mail person?
[12:14] <onkarshinde> shinu: I suppose you can do it with tar with one additional option. I don't remember option though
[12:14] <dooglus> shinu: yes, it's different, but the important thing is the 'x' vs. the 'c'...  x is extract, c is create.
[12:14] <onkarshinde> shinu: man tar
[12:14] <Secreth`X> err no
[12:14] <dorto> onkarshinde: as you said, File Manager IS available in Accessories
[12:14] <Secreth`X> I`m the guy who wanted to partition my disk and everything you say wasnt working :P
[12:14] <dorto> could have added it that way too
[12:14] <shinu> dooglus: so...-xvf extracts?..
[12:15] <dooglus> onkarshinde: 'tar cfz' creates a gzipped tar file
[12:15] <onkarshinde> shinu: Forgive for my irresponsible answer
[12:15] <dorto> what application to use to play mp3 files in ubuntu breezy?
[12:15] <nalioth> Secreth`X: i'm often wrong, when not sitting in front of the hardware
[12:15] <bru> hi all, i have a problem with my keyboard configuration (layout), i choose "Belgium" and still some keys are'nt working properly (even though the keyboard picture seems to be the same as my keyboard)... Thanks for your help
[12:15] <Secreth`X> :p
[12:15] <onkarshinde> dorto: Rhythmbox
[12:15] <dooglus> shinu: just 'tar xf' will extract any tar archive, whether it's uncompressed, compressed, gzipped or bzipper
[12:15] <dooglus> d
[12:15] <onkarshinde> !tell dorto about mp3
[12:15] <Secreth`X> Well I deleted windows
[12:15] <nalioth> dooglus: bzipperd?
[12:15] <vie|shuttle> wtf, man this is pissing me off i downloaded the ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64 i burn the iso to a cd and put it in i boot my pc up and it says hit enter to install for basic desktop and laptop so i press enter than it hangs up doing who knows what sits there at like the line
[12:15] <Secreth`X> It was crappy anyway
[12:15] <nalioth> Secreth`X: great!
[12:15] <dooglus> nalioth: heh, yes.
[12:16] <Secreth`X> And now Im on ubuntu
[12:16] <onkarshinde> vie|shuttle: For how much time?
[12:16] <soundray> dooglus, bimberi: Thanks.
[12:16] <onkarshinde> vie|shuttle: Did you make sure that there was no problem with iso using mp5?
[12:16] <vie|shuttle> i pretty long time like i dont hear my hd at all
[12:16] <vie|shuttle> mp5?
[12:16] <vie|shuttle> :) that is a sub-machine gun :D
[12:17] <bimberi> vie|shuttle: md5sum
[12:17] <deFrysk> md5sum
[12:17] <onkarshinde> vie|shuttle: md5. Sorry for that
[12:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vie|shuttle about verify
[12:17] <bimberi> vie|shuttle: which you probably feel like using right?
[12:17] <shinu> dooglus: so will tar -xvf foldername do anything?..
[12:17] <bimberi> :)
[12:17] <onkarshinde> dooglus: no
[12:17] <vie|shuttle> idk i am a complete n00b when it comes to linux
[12:17] <onkarshinde> shinu: no
[12:18] <nalioth> vie|shuttle: you'll soon shed that state of being
[12:18] <dooglus> onkarshinde: no what?
[12:18] <shinu> onkarshinde: you just told me to do that 0.0
[12:18] <luans> nalioth, it doesnt seem to work properly for me but thanks anyway lols
[12:18] <dooglus> shinu: "tar -xvf foldername" will extract foldername if it's a gzipped tar file.
[12:18] <onkarshinde> dooglus: shinu: I think I am getting hungry. So giving answers in hurry.
[12:18] <nalioth> luans: hows that?
[12:18] <luans> nalioth, ima gona dl zipzag an extract the cbr files instead
[12:19] <dooglus> shinu: now I'm telling you lies...
[12:19] <nalioth> luans: no we can fix guatu, it works great
[12:19] <luans> nalioth, is guatu tend to be REALLY slow?
[12:19] <nalioth> luans: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[12:19] <dooglus> shinu: "tar -xvf foldername" will extract any tar file - compressed or not - and it will be noisy while it does it
[12:19] <dooglus> shinu: the 'v' just adds verbosity
[12:20] <vie|shuttle> ok so i download MD5SUMS and MD5SUMS.gpg when i click on this one it just comes up with some text stuff
[12:20] <dooglus> shinu: I think adding a '-' to the list of options means that the 'f' has to be the last option.  other than that it doesn't do much.
[12:20] <WinZ> Does anyone has problems with last update of gksudo?
[12:21] <shinu> dooglus: got it. so does tar automatically find whether to use a z or j option for either gzip or bz2?
[12:21] <Shaein> Hi all
[12:21] <Shaein> I need some help
[12:21] <intelikey> bascuppen i failed to find the cause for that all caps error just grep'd for it in /home /usr and /etc  it must be in a binarry someplace ?   maybe in the xterm binary ?
[12:21] <ilba7r> any one know the link to hardware testing. I need to find out if Toshiba Qosmio F20 is supported or not.
[12:21] <Shaein> if somebody have some freetime ...
[12:21] <Shaein> it's about a wifi card
[12:21] <vie|shuttle> this is super complicated
[12:22] <vie|shuttle> what do i do with md5sums anad stuff?
[12:22] <Shaein> (in pm if)
[12:22] <dooglus> shinu: tar looks at the first few bytes of the tar archive.  gzipped archives and bzipped archives begin with certain special byte sequences ('magic numbers').  tar uses this fact to decide whether they need uncompressing or not
[12:22] <WinZ> gksudo is not responding when I start it.. what can be?
[12:23] <intelikey> dooglus like stat does
[12:23] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: md5sums are just basically checksums.  you don't have to do anything with them if you don't want to.
[12:23] <dooglus> intelikey: stat?
[12:23] <shinu> dooglus: i see... i always tried to remember the option for both.. now tht i do i learn its quite unimportant x)
[12:23] <vie|shuttle> i dont know what a checksums is
[12:24] <intelikey> dooglus 'stat * '
[12:24] <vie|shuttle> dooglus i dont know what a checksums is
[12:24] <mon> hi i have a box that acts as a router. the load is steady at 25 but i can't figure out why
[12:24] <johnm> intelikey: you mean "file"?
[12:24] <mon> top doesn't show any big cpu or memory hogs
[12:25] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: suppose you download a huge file from the internet.  you're not sure if you got it all, or if it got a bit corrupted on the way.
[12:25] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: so the author of the web page runs 'md5sum' on the big file, and puts a .md5 file on the web page.
[12:25] <vie|shuttle> so what do u want me to do with the md5sum thing
[12:25] <dooglus> you run md5sum on the file you downloaded too.  md5sum gives you a short 'code' that is (almost) unique for the file.  if your md5sum matches the one on the web page then it's 99.999% certain that the file downloaded correctly.
[12:26] <vie|shuttle> i got it from the ubuntu site
[12:26] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: run "md5sum ubuntu-breezy.iso" (or whatever the filename is)
[12:26] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: and compare the output of that with the corresponding code in the .md5 file you downloaded
[12:26] <poningru> wait maybe you should run that on the cd
[12:27] <poningru> since its probably a problem in the burn
[12:27] <intelikey> johnm no i mean stat...   'stat -c %F * '
[12:27] <johnm> intelikey: thats something a little different.
[12:27] <johnm> intelikey: that shows the fd type, not the actual file type
[12:28] <poningru> as in
[12:28] <poningru> md5sum /path/to/cd
[12:28] <johnm> intelikey: try file *, you'll see what I mean :)
[12:28] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: lets backtrack.  isn't there some kind of disk checker built into the breezy install CD?
[12:28] <poningru> dooglus: yes
[12:28] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: I think there's something you can type just after booting to get it to check the CD for you
[12:29] <poningru> no just press back
[12:29] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: then you don't need to worry about mp5 machine guns or anything
[12:29] <poningru> at the main screen just press back
[12:29] <vie|shuttle> http://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lost0us.jpg
[12:29] <vie|shuttle> press back
[12:29] <vie|shuttle> omg backspace?
[12:29] <dooglus> poningru: there'a a problem with running md5sum on the /dev/cdrom device...  even with a good burn it doesn't work, 'cos /dev/cdrom has a bunch of extra NUL characters tagged on the end
[12:30] <vie|shuttle> http://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lost0us.jpg
[12:30] <vie|shuttle> is that what i do?
[12:30] <vie|shuttle> press enter?
[12:30] <poningru> err yeah
[12:30] <intelikey> yes file reads magic numbers,   i was thinking stat did also.... maybe i mixed them up.
[12:31] <intelikey> johnm ^
[12:31] <johnm> intelikey: nah, stat goes by the type of file. try it n a socket for example.
[12:31] <vie|shuttle> ok i am beyond lost
[12:31] <intelikey> yes i see what it does.   read the post ^
[12:31] <poningru> vie|shuttle: do a -u at that stage
[12:31] <dooglus> poningru: press enter to exit, and type the "md5sums ubuntu-5-10-..." thing at the windows command prompt
[12:31] <poningru> doh
[12:31] <johnm> intelikey: I read it.
[12:31] <vie|shuttle> ok
[12:31] <intelikey> k
[12:32] <dooglus> poningru: I don't think we care too much about the format of the output - let's just have him run it...
[12:32] <agro1986> help. I want to install w32codecs_20050412+breezy0.0.1_all.deb OFFLINE. I already have windows-all-20050412.zip. Is there any way to tell the installeR to use the file I donwloaded??? thanks
[12:32] <poningru> !md5sum
[12:32] <ubotu> poningru: Not a clue
[12:32] <poningru> !checksum
[12:32] <ubotu> poningru: Are you on ritalin?
[12:32] <poningru> yes yes I am
[12:33] <Secreth`X> what about DirectX? I need it for playing games..
[12:34] <IseeIsee> I want to take a print screen in Ubuntu
[12:34] <IseeIsee> in which software should I paste the picture ?
[12:34] <vie|shuttle> i am about to go curl up in a ball in a corner :(
[12:34] <poningru> hold on dude
[12:34] <poningru> let me get you the docs
[12:34] <intelikey> me too vie|shuttle
[12:35] <ptlo> IseeIsee, on top panel menu, select System->Take screenshot ...
[12:35] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: when you boot from the install cd, you should see an option like "cd media check".  do you?  if so, try that.  it will do the md5sum thing for you.
[12:35] <vie|shuttle> lol, i am soo lost its sad
[12:35] <vie|shuttle> when i try to install cd i hit enter to install
[12:35] <AngryClip> IseeIsee, usually when you take a print screen it comes up with where you want to save the png. you will have to import that to the program you which to edit it with (GIMP?)
[12:35] <vie|shuttle> than it sits there doing nothing
[12:35] <dorto> how to install vlc in ubuntu?
[12:36] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: before hitting enter, is there anything like 'check cd' or 'check media'?
[12:36] <AngryClip> dorto, tried: sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:36] <intelikey> dooglus there may be an f7 or f8 option for that before boot    if not it is in expert mode.
[12:36] <vie|shuttle> umm i dont think so
[12:36] <vie|shuttle> i hit f3 or w/e is it in there
[12:37] <vie|shuttle> let me go try brb dooglus
[12:37] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: I will try it too - I'll brb.
[12:37] <AngryClip> can someone take a look at for me. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88600 I can't seem to prevent ehci_hcd from loading, even though it is blacklisted
[12:37] <dorto> when i try to install mp3 support following the ubuntu wiki instructions, i get this error: "E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse"
[12:38] <intelikey> AngryClip rm it
[12:38] <AngryClip> you need to add the right repos dorto
[12:38] <AngryClip> intel...?
[12:38] <dorto> the cmd i ran: "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg" from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:38] <mustard5> dorto, I would say you havent enabled mulitiverse repos
[12:38] <dorto> i did...according to the instructions
[12:38] <mustard5> dorto, the first step in the guide is Add repositories
[12:39] <intelikey> if you have a module that you can't keep the system from loading rm the module.
[12:39] <AngryClip> dorto, do a sudo apt-get update
[12:39] <dorto> i did that too
[12:39] <mustard5> dorto, and then sudo apt-get update?
[12:39] <dorto> "deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe" etc are there in the sources.list
[12:39] <dorto> yes
[12:40] <intelikey> not the 'software makers way' but it will stop the system from loading that module.
[12:40] <Secreth`X> Yes I cant seem to find a way to install that too, I have the same problem as dorto
[12:40] <mustard5> let me check something
[12:40] <dorto> " deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse" is also there in apt sources
[12:40] <mustard5> !info gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[12:40] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse: (All Multiverse GStreamer plugins), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 56 kB
[12:41] <mustard5> !info gstreamer0.8-plugins
[12:41] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-plugins: (All GStreamer plugins), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 28 kB, Installed size: 60 kB
[12:41] <mustard5> it seems they are in multiverse dorto and Secreth`X
[12:42] <Secreth`X> I have multiserve enabled
[12:42] <dorto> me too
[12:42] <mustard5> Secreth`X, did you sudo apt-get update
[12:42] <AngryClip> intelikey,  so you think I should move: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686-smp/include/config/usb/ehci to anothe location? won't that give me LOADS of errors?
[12:42] <Secreth`X> yes mustard5
[12:42] <nickrud> dorto, is multiverse enabled in any other line than backports?
[12:43] <dorto> nickrud: no
[12:43] <nickrud> dorto, there's your problem: everywhere universe exists, add multiverse
[12:43] <dorto> nickrud: there are lots of lines for universe but only one for multiverse
[12:43] <AngryClip> intelikey, ignore me... that is the source the real module is: /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/usb/host/ehci-hcd.ko
[12:43] <dorto> ok
[12:43] <mustard5> !sources
[12:44] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:44] <AngryClip> I shall move it and what happens
[12:44] <AngryClip> thanks for the help intelikey
[12:44] <mustard5> dorto and Secreth`X compare your sources.lists to the standard ones in links above
[12:44] <Secreth`X> k
[12:44] <Belutz> is pornview not working in breezy?
[12:44] <Seveas> it works for me
[12:44] <nickrud> mustard5, the fun way is to use synaptic: remove all the repositories, then cycle through reach repository, and click every checkbox :)
[12:44] <intelikey> AngryClip yeah it may cry foul, but you never know till you try.
[12:44] <Seveas> ^-- Belutz
[12:44] <mustard5> nickrud, hehe
[12:44] <Belutz> hmm
[12:45] <intelikey> personally i think it will work.
[12:45] <Belutz> Seveas, you installed it from the repos?
[12:45] <mustard5> nickrud, my experience has been that people have more trouble doing it with the gui in synaptic then via command line :)
[12:45] <Seveas> Belutz, discard that, it workED for me
[12:45] <AngryClip> you think I should run update-modules
[12:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm trying to wire together a batman signalling device, like the mayor has..to signal batman.
[12:45] <intelikey> yeah
[12:45] <Seveas> BROKEN_LADDER, -ETOPIC
[12:46] <nickrud> mustard5, I agree :) I filed a bug report on getting a default sources in the apt docs, so it's easy to restart
[12:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> Seveas ??
[12:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> english please
[12:46] <vie|shuttle> ok i am back, this is what happens when i boot to cd "the defualt installion is suitable for most desktop or laptop systems press f1 for help and advanced installion options to install only the base system type server than enter for defualt type enter so i hit enter
[12:46] <Belutz> hmm i wonder what's wrong
[12:46] <AngryClip> cheers intelikey, the only way to test is to reboot, I will do that later today or maybe tomorrow... thanks
[12:47] <SGershon> I try to run the ./autogen.sh to compile a GTK app, and it tells me: ""**Error**: You must have `glib' installed.
[12:47] <SGershon> What I must add?
[12:47] <johnm> SGershon: you must install glib.
[12:47] <mustard5> vie|shuttle, I think dooglus might be away atm
[12:47] <Secreth`X> mustard5, done and updated too.
[12:47] <mustard5> Secreth`X, k..try now :)
[12:47] <Secreth`X> ok\
[12:47] <intelikey> my day is just about over,  good night all.
[12:48] <AngryClip> SGershon, sudo apt-get install glib
[12:48] <SGershon> johnm, there is no package called only glib, htere are glib*
[12:48] <AngryClip> nn intelikey
[12:48] <SGershon> AngryClip, thanks.
[12:48] <mustard5> dorto, how are you going with your issue?
[12:49] <vie|shuttle> than it starts going it says [232.512417]  <O> Kernal panic not syncing : killing interupt handeler! the next line says [232.512417]  _ and keps blinking sitting there
[12:49] <SGershon> AngryClip, "E: Couldn't find package glib"
[12:49] <Seveas> SGershon, apt-cache search libglib | grep -- -dev
[12:49] <AngryClip> sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-0
[12:49] <mustard5> Seveas, what does the -- part do?
[12:49] <AngryClip> although you should look at the docs to see what version it needs
[12:50] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: I just booted to the install cd too.  You don't get to check the CD for errors until a few steps into the install process...  seems a bit stupid to me!
[12:50] <Secreth`X> yay mustard5 its working :)
[12:50] <vie|shuttle> mustard its ok i saved what i wrote
[12:50] <SGershon> Seveas, shall I pastebin the output?
[12:50] <mustard5> Secreth`X, good work
[12:50] <Secreth`X> thx dude
[12:50] <vie|shuttle> i want that feeling of finishing this ! :D
[12:50] <dooglus> I tried to do the 'check media' thing myself, but it couldn't find the right driver for my CD drive.  odd, 'cos the hoary installer found it just fine.
[12:51] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: so you can't use the built-in checker.  you'll have to run md5sum on windows instead.
[12:51] <agro1986> help: I need the debs for OOo2. Anyone have the links?
[12:51] <bimberi> !ooo2
[12:51] <ubotu> Test packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html
[12:52] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: are you in windows now?
[12:52] <vie|shuttle> dooglus: how do i run md5sum
[12:52] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: you almost had it earlier.
[12:52] <agro1986> md5sum filename
[12:52] <agro1986> vie|shuttle: md5sum filename
[12:52] <vie|shuttle> dooglus: but than i got lost lol
[12:52] <leandro> Whqt the heck hqppend
[12:52] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: your program is called "md5sums" (with an s)
[12:52] <leandro> err
[12:52] <vie|shuttle> so in command prompt?
[12:52] <leandro> What the heck happend :S
[12:52] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: run a command shell / msdos prompt or whatever it's called
[12:53] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: can you "cd" to the place where your .iso file is?
[12:53] <SGershon> Seveas, the output is: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4353
[12:53] <SGershon> Seems to have no error.
[12:53] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: like:    cd \documents and settings\vie\desktop    or some such
[12:53] <SGershon> But it still don't work'
[12:53] <mustard5> SGershon, that is just a search function
[12:53] <vie|shuttle> dooglus: start>run "md5sums ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64"
[12:53] <mustard5> SGershon, to find the packages with those names
[12:54] <mustard5> SGershon, were you looking for those packages to install them?
[12:54] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: if you like.  does that work?
[12:54] <Secreth`X> Ok this is probably a dumb question but what about DirectX in wine? Because I need it to run the game :x
[12:54] <fruud> my ubuntu crashed, so iv reinstalled it now, how do i make my "root" account enabled ? it says my pass is wrong.
[12:54] <blueblood> Any idea of why I can't use <TAB> in Jed?
[12:54] <dooglus> fruud: use "sudo" to run commands as root, and when it asks for a password, give your user password
[12:54] <MarcN> fruud: don't log in as root.  Use sudo to become root as needed
[12:54] <AngryClip> fruud, you dont, you use sudo
[12:55] <AngryClip> you can get root access by doing something like: sudo passwd
[12:55] <AngryClip> and then making a new root pass
[12:55] <El_Che> fruud: if you really want a root account: sudo passwd root
[12:55] <SGershon> mustard5, Yes, I undrstood, so it seems that apt-get find this packages, but it says "E: Couldn't find package glib". So I don't know if there is some package missing.
[12:55] <sapo> hi all, is there a way to use bittorrent with just the command line? i just installed it on a server.. but i cant find the command to run without the gui
[12:55] <WinZ> My gksudo goes down with "Segmentation fault". can anybody help me?
[12:55] <fruud> okay dudes, thanks!
[12:55] <fruud> how do i get KDE back ? :$
[12:56] <Tevage> hey all
[12:56] <mustard5> SGershon, that search function is to find 'available' packages ..not installed packages
[12:56] <dooglus> sapo: /usr/bin/btdownloadheadless.bittorrent
[12:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> welcome to san francisco http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/apa/110368869.html
[12:56] <vie|shuttle> dooglus that thing i tried didnt work
[12:56] <SGershon> mustard5, And what should I do to have glib installed?
[12:56] <mustard5> SGershon, now you have the package names of the 'available' packages, you can proceed to installing them, because you know there proper names now
[12:56] <NoobieDoobieDo> is it possible to connect to more than one server using naim ?
[12:56] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: right.  so...  can you run a command prompt window?   start->run->cmd
[12:57] <Secreth`X> Ok this is probably a dumb question but what about DirectX in wine? Because I need it to run the game :x
[12:57] <fruud> what apt-get to get KDE for ubuntu ?
[12:57] <icewt> fruud: kubuntu-desktop
[12:57] <mustard5> SGershon, what are you installing btw?
[12:57] <NoobieDoobieDo> haha gdm is done !
[12:58] <SGershon> mustard5, I try to run the ./autogen.sh to compile a GTK app, and it tells me: ""**Error**: You must have `glib' installed.
[12:58] <fruud> ty
[12:58] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: ?
[12:58] <sapo> dooglus it says : Import error, no module named Bittorrent.Download
[12:58] <Secreth`X> !wine
[12:58] <j4v4m4n> hey  anyone knows where is the list of display managers (xdm,gdm,kdm..) file ?
[12:59] <mustard5> SGershon, yeah, so install the packages that came up in the search and you should find that your installation will now find glib when you try  it again
[12:59] <highvoltage> j4v4m4n: which file? i don't think there's a specific file. what do you want to do?
[12:59] <dooglus> sapo: ummm...  really?
[12:59] <vie|shuttle> dooglus http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtf4sl.jpg
[01:00] <SGershon> mustard5, I'll try it now. Thanks.
[01:00] <j4v4m4n> highvoltage: I want to change my default display manager from gdm to entrance (enlightenment dm)
[01:00] <fruud> icewt, what packages do i need 2 install through apt to be able to use compiling again ? libs etc any specific ?
[01:00] <NoobieDoobieDo> what X does Ubuntu use ?
[01:00] <NoobieDoobieDo> x11 or x.org?
[01:01] <highvoltage> j4v4m4n: i think you can do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm", and it should ask you which display manager you would like to use
[01:01] <sH4> .
[01:01] <sH4> x.org
[01:01] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: you should have 2 files:  md5sums.exe and ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso .  can you put them both on your desktop?
[01:01] <highvoltage> j4v4m4n: how did you install edm? is there an ubuntu package?
[01:01] <j4v4m4n> highvoltage: I added /usr/local/entrance to /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[01:01] <icewt> fruud: err.. build-essential ?
[01:01] <NoobieDoobieDo> thx. im having to install the gui from scratch sH4.
[01:01] <vie|shuttle> yes
[01:01] <j4v4m4n> I compiled the source
[01:02] <fruud> ye
[01:02] <j4v4m4n> highvoltage: compiled from cvs
[01:02] <sH4> noobiedoobiedo : ) i`m korean and i can`t english well ..
[01:02] <NoobieDoobieDo> I've installed gnome and gdm so far but X does not seem to be installed.  I'm trying to figure out what package I need.
[01:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> can someone do me a favor?
[01:02] <nickrud> sH4, but your math is good :)
[01:02] <aurora> i typed "chown -R username:username ~/.*" as root (where "username" is my regular account) and EVERYTHING broke, i would have thought it could at worst have made some hidden files in /root/ owned by the wrong account, but everything seemed to be playing up and the command seemed to run forever, which scared me enough to terminate it early
[01:02] <dooglus> sapo: do you have a file /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/BitTorrent/Downloader.py on your box?
[01:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> i accessed this site too many times and i can't get to it now.  can someone read what the guidelines are that he suggests so he won't ban you?
[01:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> http://bigelow-springs.net/airamerica/
[01:03] <aurora> have i completly stuffed my breezy installation?
[01:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> like you can't access it more than every hour or something..
[01:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone..10 seconds of your time would be much appreciated
[01:03] <dirkson> Hello all. Can anyone help me out a bit with an error at boot time? I had to recompile the kernel, I think it's related to that.
[01:03] <sapo> dooglus no :(
[01:04] <dooglus> sapo: how did you install bittorrent?
[01:04] <nickrud> aurora, post ls -l / to paste.ubuntulinux.nl, maybe you have
[01:04] <j4v4m4n> highvoltage: what I have is /usr/local/bin/entrance and which I want to add to the list of dm s
[01:04] <mustard5> aurora, I'm thinking about what might have happened.....
[01:04] <dooglus> sapo: I can't connect to that site
[01:04] <NoobieDoobieDo> how much disk space does a install take ?
[01:04] <sapo> dooglus downloaded from the bittorrent.com website =x
[01:04] <mustard5> aurora, whats the username:username part for?
[01:04] <sH4> NoobieDoobieDo ,try to install it  apt-get install x-window-system-core
[01:04] <marlun> Does ubuntu has apache and php installed by default after installation?
[01:05] <vie|shuttle> dooglus top right corner for you http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=omg2dy.jpg
[01:05] <dpupp> would anyone be willing to help this newbie with how to secure his network using spa in ubuntu?
[01:05] <locomorto|water> marlun: no
[01:05] <dpupp> eer wpa i mean
[01:05] <Seveas> dpupp, sure
[01:05] <j4v4m4n> which script in /etc/rc.d start display manger (gdm, kdm ..) ?
[01:05] <dooglus> aurora: ~/.* matches ~/.. ; if you were root, ~ is /root and ~/.. is / - so you changed / recursively...
[01:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> i think i'm getting carpal tunnel syndrome..my right wrist is killing me
[01:05] <marlun> locomorto|water, ok, I'll have to find a guide on how to install it then :)
[01:05] <Seveas> dpupp, sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[01:05] <Seveas> edit the wpasupplicant config
[01:05] <dpupp> seveas, i got that already/
[01:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> j4v4m4n just reconfigure it.  dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[01:06] <Seveas> dpupp, did you edit the config too?
[01:06] <NoobieDoobieDo> sH4, Thanks.
[01:06] <dpupp> ok editing wpasupplicant. how/?
[01:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> j4v4m4n use sudo of course
[01:06] <mustard5> Seveas, I got SGershon to install the packages that came up on that apt-cache search for glib ..he is off doing that now
[01:06] <Obi-1> i have problems with configuring my network eth
[01:06] <aurora> okay i got confused, i was trying to move files from one account in to another, i forgot in root the homedir would be different
[01:06] <j4v4m4n> BROKEN_LADDER: I compiled from source ;-( so no dpkg for me
[01:06] <Seveas> dpupp, sudo gedit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[01:06] <aurora> how can "~/" resolve to "/"?
[01:07] <fruud> anyone know the cvs command for AMSN cvs version ? :)
[01:07] <NoobieDoobieDo> is everyone here in a GUI ?
[01:07] <nickrud> aurora, an extra space in the wrong place. I did that once...
[01:07] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: ok.  good.  now in the black cmd window, type "cd Desktop" and then "md5sums ubuntu*.iso"
[01:07] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: then show me another photo :)
[01:07] <j4v4m4n> BROKEN_LADDER: If I know where gdm starts in the init sequence I can just run /usr/local/bin/entrance
[01:07] <aurora> what extra space?
[01:07] <dpupp> seveas i see the config on scree now
[01:07] <Seveas> dpupp, good, now add a section for your network at the bottom
[01:07] <sH4> : ) i want to learn about linux and english in here.
[01:08] <nickrud> aurora, nm, if / is all root:root, my worries are baseless
[01:08] <Seveas> dpupp, is it a simple wpa network?
[01:08] <marlun> is there an easy key-combination to change between the 4 desktops?
[01:08] <j4v4m4n> sH4: good
[01:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> j4v4m4n i don't know where it runs from.. good question.
[01:08] <dirkson> Hello all. Can anyone help me out a bit with an error at boot time?
[01:08] <dpupp> seveas, as far as im aware, it should be. its just plan wpa with a passphrase...
[01:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> http://www.craigslist.org/eby/apa/110434808.html <--check out this little charmer folks.
[01:08] <aurora> ls -l / resulted in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4354
[01:09] <dpupp> im new to wpa as well. swtiching from wep because i could not get wep working
[01:09] <aurora> however, i did try and rerun the command after to put things back to normal, using root:root
[01:09] <Seveas> dpupp, then at the bottom, add something like specified on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4355
[01:09] <vie|shuttle> dooglus: http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=startingtogetsad2li.jpg
[01:09] <icewt> marlun: in gnome ctrl+alt+arrows (right/left)
[01:09] <sH4> : )
[01:09] <dpupp> loading link
[01:10] <aurora> i started getting "maildrop" errors in user terminals and sudo was complaining that /etc/sudoers wasn't owned by root, which is what scared me
[01:10] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: sorry.  I meant for you to hit return between 'cd desktop' and the rest
[01:10] <marlun> icewt, thanks =)
[01:10] <aurora> what i dont get is how chown managed to get out of /root/, unless its stupid enough to recurse in to ".."
[01:11] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: and the 'md5sums' command was a bit different than what you typed
[01:11] <vbgunz> hello everyone... can someone guide me to creating a launcher that launches three things? 1. a terminal. 2. a text file for notes. 3. a linux ebook. I am always launching them together *but* cannot successfully create a single launcher to launch all 3 at once... any help is appreciated. I've tried some things "but I am messing up... I tried some variations *but* opened about 5 evince windows with errors... Any insight is appreciated
[01:11] <dooglus> aurora: you told it to chown ~/.*
[01:11] <nickrud> aurora, .* does match ..
[01:11] <dooglus> aurora: that includes ~/..
[01:11] <vbgunz> I tried this "gnome-terminal --working-directory=%f && gedit "/home/vbgunz/notes/Running Linux 4th Edition" && evince "%U /home/vbgunz/ebooks/running_linux_4e.pdf"" but no go :(
[01:11] <vie|shuttle> dooglus so cd desktop enter than md5sums
[01:11] <aurora> oooooooh
[01:11] <aurora> i see
[01:11] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: yep
[01:11] <vie|shuttle> dooglus so cd desktop enter than md5sums and the iso file name?
[01:11] <dpupp> seveas i add that at the verry bottom?
[01:11] <aurora> damn!
[01:12] <Seveas> dpupp, yes
[01:12] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: yes.  note that the .iso file name ends with .iso (windows hides known extensions by default)
[01:12] <Seveas> dpupp, and of course you change it to mention your ssid and key ;)
[01:12] <dooglus> aurora: however, if the chown ran in /, why aren't all the files in / owned by the user?
[01:12] <vie|shuttle> dooglus so i dont have to type .iso or i do?
[01:12] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: you have to
[01:12] <mustard5> vbgunz, could you not put three custom applications launchers (applets) on the top panel ?
[01:12] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: you can probably type "md5sums ubuntu" and then hit the TAB key to have Windows complete the name for you
[01:13] <aurora> dooglus, after the command i ran it again to put it back to root, but i terminated it again like the first
[01:13] <dpupp> ok. i read an encrypted key instead of just plain text key should i avoid the plain text or?
[01:13] <vbgunz> mustard5: yeah, but I have to launch them one by one... I launch all three together but one by one...
[01:13] <aurora> im guessing it got the top level directories
[01:13] <dooglus> aurora: what was the command exactly?  were you logged in as root, or using sudo?
[01:13] <xjonex> vbgunz, try gnome-terminal|gedit
[01:13] <vbgunz> xjonex: ok
[01:13] <aurora> um...
[01:13] <Seveas> dpupp, just put your key there in plain text
[01:13] <dooglus> aurora: it would work depth-first I believe.
[01:13] <aurora> i think logged in, but im not sure
[01:13] <dpupp> ok
[01:13] <dpupp> done
[01:13] <mustard5> vbgunz, seems to me that that might become redundant over time..whereas three might remain useful for longer
[01:14] <vie|shuttle> dooglus it went to 100%
[01:14] <aurora> it was "chown -R user:user ~/.*"
[01:14] <aurora> well, user:user would be aurora:aurora on my box...
[01:14] <vbgunz> mustard5: 1. is a terminal. 2. is a text file. 3. is an ebook. they all belong together...
[01:14] <Seveas> dpupp, cool, then now let's test it
[01:14] <Seveas> dpupp, open a terminal
[01:15] <Seveas> dpupp, btw: which card/driver do you use?
[01:15] <vbgunz> xjonex: thanks but no cigar :(
[01:15] <dorto> what application can i use to test whether my philips webcamera is supported in ubuntu or not?
[01:15] <aurora> is there something i can do to make sure everything is right apart from reinstall? maybe everything but /home/* is supposed to be owned by root or something simple like that?
[01:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> night
[01:15] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: then what did it say?  I'm looking for a 32 character string
[01:15] <dpupp> seveas, thats a good question. brb.
[01:15] <vie|shuttle> dooglus it worked this time i think it actually did sumthing and than it says 100% and text and letters
[01:15] <dirkson> *sighs* I've got a bit of a nasty problem on bootup, it's probably related to one of the options I picked when I recompiled the kernel. Can anyone help me for a couple moments with it?
[01:15] <vie|shuttle> dooglus do u want me to tell u the 32 letters?
[01:16] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: or make another screenshot
[01:16] <Secreth`X> Ok this is probably a dumb question but what about DirectX in wine? Because I need it to run the game :x
[01:16] <mustard5> dirkson, stating your problem up front would be better
[01:16] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: or just check if it says "7fbe948be484ba2f4740ab6113890652" ('cos it should)
[01:16] <vie|shuttle> 7fbe948be484ba2f4740ab6113890652
[01:17] <scribbles> I locked my screen for about 10 hours and come back and now my weather desklet is a solid gray bar and the gdesklets icon is missing frm the system tray, and when I go to restart gdesklets it starts then won't respond and you have to force quit
[01:17] <dirkson> *laughs* I would if I could. It's repeating series of error messages on the boot, but I don't know enough to find the bootlog afterwards, so I can't give the exact message
[01:17] <dooglus> sapo: that's why it doesn't work.  remove the version you downloaded and run "sudo apt-get bittorrent".  then it'll work.
[01:17] <mustard5> dirkson, ah ok
[01:17] <dooglus> sapo: sorry.  "sudo apt-get install bittorrent"
[01:17] <vie|shuttle> dooglus they are the same one is that good?
[01:17] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: it means you have the .iso file as it should be.
[01:17] <mustard5> dirkson, you now how to use pastebin (just curious)
[01:18] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: so either the burn to cd failed, or breezy doesn't work with your hardware.  I would guess it's a bad burn.
[01:18] <dpupp> seveas, its a dlink im certain.... but in the device manager its showing as texas instrument acx 100-22 wireless interface.
[01:18] <vie|shuttle> well can i give u my specs and u tell me if there ok?
[01:18] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: burn another CD, and make sure nothing is running on the PC while you do it.  sudden bursts of activity on the PC can mess up a burn
[01:18] <sapo> dooglus ok, thanx
[01:19] <surfdue> hey
[01:19] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: I wouldn't know, sorry.
[01:19] <surfdue> during the install
[01:19] <vie|shuttle> dooglus ok man
[01:19] <dirkson> Yah. First time you guys told it to me, it barfed my connection, but I hardcoded a hack into the kernel, and now my internet connection is rock solid. (Though you don't even want to see what I did to that code. *shudder*) I find the concept of pastebin... curious, and I'm really surprised that you can get most people to use it. Makes sense, though
[01:19] <dpupp> seveas, dwl-520+ , not sure about driver.
[01:19] <surfdue> some packages broke and wouldnt insatll, how do i fix all broken packages now that im on the net?
[01:19] <vie|shuttle> dooglus i will go do that right now if it doesnt work i am going to go jump off a cliff :D jk:)
[01:19] <surfdue> when i startup all i have is normal sheel not gnome so im gessing gnome is one of the problems
[01:19] <dooglus> dirkson: did you see the little script on the ubuntu pastebin page?  it makes it a lot easier to use.
[01:19] <Seveas> dpupp, can you put the output of lsmod and iwconfig on the pastebin
[01:20] <vbgunz> anyone know how to create a launcher for "gnome-terminal" and have it accept a cmdline as if I put the command in the console?
[01:20] <dooglus> I can just "command -args | pastebin" now to paste command output directly to the site
[01:20] <Seveas> vbgunz, gnome-terminal -e "command arg1 arg2"
[01:20] <scribbles> whats the command ot see all running processes
[01:20] <mustard5> dirkson, it makes for efficient troubleshooting :)  I was just curious as it seems it might be necessary in this situation
[01:20] <vbgunz> Seveas: will try
[01:20] <blueblood> How can I see the movies at www.gamespot.com? In windows I need wmp10.
[01:20] <dooglus> scribbles: "ps -ef"
[01:21] <mustard5> dirkson, although if its just one line repeating the same error......*shrugs*
[01:21] <dirkson> True. Didn't see the script, Dooglus, going to take another look now.
[01:21] <dpupp> seveas - paste bin?
[01:21] <NoobieDoobieDo> wow
[01:21] <SGershon> :P Now, it says: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4356 . Unbelievable --> 2.0.0 != 2.0 ??
[01:21] <surfdue> anyone?
[01:21] <NoobieDoobieDo> total command line chatting here.
[01:21] <Seveas> dpupp, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:21] <dirkson> Mustard5, Well, two lines. But there are related lines before it as well, I think.
[01:21] <NoobieDoobieDo> IRC, yahoo.  I feel l33t.
[01:21] <NoobieDoobieDo> jk
[01:21] <dpupp> ok brb.
[01:21] <surfdue> during install there are some broken packages how do I have the package system repair these broken packages?
[01:21] <mustard5> dirkson, k..I am certain it will be beyond my abilities anyway :)
[01:22] <mustard5> SGershon, checking it now....
[01:22] <scribbles> anyone else have a problem with gdesklets locking after going away for a while
[01:22] <dorto> what application can i use to video chat using webcamera in ubuntu? gaim seems to have no such option
[01:22] <Seveas> SGershon, you need the -dev packages
[01:22] <Seveas> libglib2.0-dev
[01:22] <dirkson> Mustard5, Ah, well, thanks anyway. Any chance you could remind me where to find the bootlog, anyway? Useful thing, that.
[01:22] <mustard5> Seveas, I just sent him off to get those..(I thought )
[01:23] <SGershon> Seveas, mustard5, I have them installed! I apt-getted them, at least.
[01:23] <dirkson> The last three days have really pushed my limits. Really hard to remember every little place where Linux keeps stuff.
[01:23] <mustard5> dirkson, someone here will know
[01:23] <Seveas> SGershon, in that case ./configure of that software is broken
[01:23] <Seveas> ah nvm
[01:23] <SGershon> And I just checked in Synaptic. They're there.
[01:23] <Seveas> you need libgtk2.0-dev
[01:23] <dooglus> SGershon: you can "apt-get build-dep <package>" to get the packages you need to build <package>
[01:23] <surfdue> anyone?
[01:23] <mustard5> SGershon, it wants gtk 2.0 now
[01:23] <surfdue> please?
[01:24] <MarcN> dirkson: locate is helpful to find files
[01:24] <j4v4m4n> highvoltage: Thanks ! I found out the mistake
[01:24] <SGershon> mustard5, The part I liked most was: 2.0 < 2.0.0 .
[01:24] <dorto> or an application which can allow me to take pics from the web camera?
[01:24] <SGershon> dooglus, I'll try that now.
[01:24] <mustard5> SGershon, :)
[01:24] <j4v4m4n> BROKEN_LADDER: Thanks I found out the mistake
[01:24] <dpupp> seveas sorry its taking me long, im transfering between machines using mem pen...
[01:24] <Seveas> dpupp, no sweat, take your time :)
[01:25] <vbgunz> seveas, thanks, it might work *but* not for me... am trying to launch three things with one launcher... I might need to learn how to script something like a batch file or something... thanks!
[01:25] <dirkson> MarcN, well, I'm really not sure what to look for. Is it really just called 'bootlog', or something silly like that?
[01:25] <mustard5> dirkson, would they be with the other log files in /var/log ?
[01:25] <MarcN> dirkson: not sure what you are looking for, but "locate filename" is useful to find filename
[01:26] <dirkson> Quite possibly. I was checking in there, but I can look again. It's quite easy to miss things, I think
[01:26] <aurora> of course xchat crashes x.x
[01:26] <dpupp> odd the file i copied over from linux is not showing on the pen drive...
[01:27] <mustard5> anyone know where the record of the boot log is kept?
[01:27] <SGershon> sorsis, no idea on how to solve: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4356 ?
[01:27] <dirkson> MarcN, Basically, I'm just looking for a record of the text that scrolls across my screen when I boot
[01:28] <SGershon> s/sorsis/so,
[01:28] <mustard5> dirkson, is it kern.log?  (totally guessing :D )
[01:28] <SGershon> Uff.
[01:28] <marlun> is there a site that list some keyboard shortcuts in ubuntu? For example, is there a keyboard shortcut to bring up a teminal window?
[01:28] <aurora> and of course i had to [sware]  every [sware]  thing up one day after everything was finally working perfectly
[01:28] <MarcN> dirkson: seems I have a bootlog daemon installed, but not enabled by default.
[01:28] <mustard5> nope..not kern.log
[01:29] <MarcN> dirkson:  need to edit /etc/default/bootlogd to enable it on boot.
[01:29] <Seveas> dpupp, did you properly unmount the usb stick before removing?
[01:29] <ompaul> mustard5, dmesg the log file
[01:29] <dirkson> *finds a log buried deep in a subdirectory* Wait a minute, this might be better.........
[01:29] <MarcN> dirkson: and looking in /etc/init.d/bootlogd startup script it would seem that /var/log/boot is where it goes.
[01:30] <ompaul> mustard5, it aint dmesg the command :-)
[01:30] <dpupp> seveas, probably not.
[01:30] <dirkson> Marcn- Ok, cool, that's certainly useful to know
[01:30] <vie|shuttle> dooglus its doing the same thing says console shuts up killing interupt handeler on next line and sits there blinking _
[01:30] <Seveas> dpupp, that would explain ;)
[01:31] <MarcN> dirkson: /etc/init.d/ is where startup scripts are, /etc/default/ are frequently configuration files for them.  /var/log/ is where things are logged.
[01:31] <Seveas> try to copy the file again and unmount the drive before removing
[01:31] <Seveas> also run the windows filesystem checker on the usb pen, it is probably corrupt noe
[01:31] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: I guess it's time to find the nearest cliff then.
[01:31] <Seveas> now*
[01:31] <elemental32> How long did it take you guys to reciv you ubuntu cds??
[01:31] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: I'm sorry it had to come to this.  It's been great the short time we've spent together.  I wish you better luck in your next life.  :)
[01:31] <dpupp> heh learned something new. ;)
[01:31] <mustard5> dirkson, man dmesg has hints :)
[01:31] <vie|shuttle> dooglus linux made me love bill gates :( this is sad
[01:32] <Secreth`X> elemental32, a few weeks
[01:32] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: installing windows is no walk in the park either.  most PCs come with it ready installed, so people don't notice how messy it can be to hunt down all the right drivers.
[01:32] <dpupp> seveas, ok, in paste bin, do i put your name or mine?
[01:32] <Seveas> doesn't matter :)
[01:33] <dpupp> ok done
[01:33] <Secreth`X> Im lucky Enemy Territory has a linux distrubution :)
[01:33] <dpupp> seveas http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4357
[01:33] <vie|shuttle> dooglus lol, windows is x10 easier at least it works when you put it in :) and hunting down drivers isnt hard as long as you know your hardware and a simple program like everest can give you that info
[01:35] <Seveas> what the...
[01:35] <zando> hi at all, how i can create the Packages file from a deb files?
[01:35] <Seveas> I se no network drivers there :|
[01:35] <vie|shuttle> dooglus do you think another distro of linux would work ive heard good things from this distro but obviously it doesnt like me :( so i might try another distro
[01:35] <Seveas> dpupp, what did you do already to get wifi working?
[01:36] <bigkahuna> Anybody using the sidebar gdesklet?
[01:36] <dpupp> seveas, its not working...  i turned on wep in the router, and it went down. turned it off, and i can connect... however, with wpa on, i cant connect again
[01:36] <dpupp> im on an xpmachine now ...
[01:36] <vie|shuttle> dpupp stay away i ward u linux is evil lol
[01:37] <Seveas> dpupp, but you did not do anything on the linux machine to get the driver working (ie: the driver itself worked right after install)?
[01:37] <dpupp> my wificard is off at the moment in ubuntu. dissabled.
[01:37] <dpupp> no, it worked fine after install with wifi off.
[01:37] <Seveas> eww, it's a texas intrumens card :S
[01:38] <dpupp> seveas, should i set it back to working? and continue from within ubuntu?
[01:38] <vie|shuttle> starting a new channel named #ihatelinux if linux hates u hate it back :)
[01:39] <Seveas> dpupp, ok, let's try this in a terminal, with the wireless card enabled: sudo wpa_supplicant -Bw -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext -iwlan0
[01:39] <Secreth`X> Go Seveas
[01:39] <Seveas> dpupp, after that, repeatedly try: sudo wpa_cli status to see whether it worked
[01:39] <Secreth`X> *cheerleaderdance*
[01:39] <Seveas> once it says 'authenticated' it worked and we can finalize this
[01:40] <Seveas> Secreth`X, please do not cheer muting/kicking/banning - it's not that we like doing this
[01:40] <Secreth`X> yay, k, sorry :p
[01:41] <morphix> i know i should ask in #egghelp, etc but they dont seem to ever be 'alive', but does anyone in here know about eggdrop's?
[01:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> way complex :|
[01:42] <icewt> morphix: what do you need to know?
[01:42] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: it's possible you would have more luck with a different distro.
[01:42] <keiron> can someone please give me some tips on getting streaming audio working?
[01:42] <dooglus> vie|shuttle: ubuntu's a good one though.
[01:42] <morphix> i have everything on my eggdrop working. i had to recompile, etc to add SSL support.. but cannot get the eggdrop to connect using SSL.
[01:44] <icewt> morphix: hmm.. sorry, don't know about that
[01:44] <morphix> damn. lol worth a try.
[01:44] <morphix> i have been trying to get help from #egghelp, etc on many different networks.. and no 1 responds.. even after idling for nearly 4 hours
[01:44] <morphix> :(
[01:45] <icewt> :/
[01:46] <volker> hi. anybody here has "e17genmenu" compiled??
[01:46] <fredforfaen> yeah volker
[01:46] <mustard5> heh
[01:47] <volker> ive got this error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4359
[01:47] <mustard5> vie|shuttle, take a deep breath and count to ten
[01:47] <volker> fredforfaen: can u tell me which packages uve installed?
[01:48] <fredforfaen> volker i dont understand german and no sorry i dont remember what pkgsd i installed
[01:48] <selinium> Seveas, Have you got a password on your sun-j2re1.5 package, It keeps staying on my list of updates available.  :)
[01:48] <keiron> streaming audio. which codec should i install to get it working?
[01:48] <volker> it is missing something about Engrave.h
[01:48] <Seveas> selinium, meh, no ;)
[01:49] <Seveas> (I need to update the package first, sun has a newer version; ping me in an hour)
[01:49] <fredforfaen> volker apt-cache search Engrave
[01:49] <fruud> i need help
[01:49] <Ng> Seveas: just point people at java-package, it's so easy in breezy :)
[01:49] <Seveas> Ng, that too, but some people are lazy ;)(
[01:49] <fruud> what do i do ?
[01:49] <fruud> checking for gcc... no
[01:49] <fruud> checking for cc... no
[01:49] <fruud> checking for cc... no
[01:49] <fruud> checking for cl... no
[01:49] <fruud> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:49] <fruud> See `config.log' for more details.
[01:49] <selinium> Seveas, np :) I have your repo in my list, so it will be there waiting for me! :) CHeers Seveas :)
[01:49] <Ng> Seveas: frankly, sod them :)
[01:50] <_jason> fruud, don't paste, and have you installed build-essentials package?
[01:50] <EvilPaddy> Has anyone had trouble installing crossover office, I get this when I try to install it: "'$HOME' must exist and belong to you for the installation to proceed. You may need to log in as root or use su rather than sudo" - Any ideas people, I have no root user!?
[01:50] <mustard5> fruud, first you should learn about the pastebin
[01:50] <Seveas> fruud, do NOT paste in here
[01:50] <Ng> EvilPaddy: how are you installing it?
[01:50] <fruud> sry !
[01:50] <Seveas> and install a .deb of whatever you need
[01:50] <fruud> _jason, apt-get install build-essentials?
[01:50] <mustard5> fruud, secondly you should sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:50] <EvilPaddy> Ng, sh ./install-crossover-pro-5.0.0.sh
[01:51] <_jason> fruud, well first you should make sure there isn't a deb in the repos for what you need, then yeah that should work... not sure if there is an 's' at the end
[01:51] <Ng> EvilPaddy: are you logged in as you? or did you do that with sudo? Generally crossover is best installer per-user
[01:51] <fruud> okay
[01:51] <fruud> ty
[01:51] <mustard5> fruud, what are you installing?
[01:51] <fruud> amsn
[01:51] <fruud> the cvs version
[01:51] <fruud> makes my webcam work
[01:51] <EvilPaddy> Ng, I did it as sudo
[01:52] <mustard5> fruud, ah ok
[01:52] <dooglus> fruud: install build-essential.  then do "sudo apt-get build-dep amsn".  then build the cvs sources.
[01:52] <irritato> salve a tutti
[01:52] <irritato> ci sono italiani qui?
[01:52] <Ng> EvilPaddy: do it again without sudo
[01:52] <Seveas> !it
[01:52] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[01:52] <Ng> EvilPaddy: and just install it in your home directory
[01:52] <dylan_> will ubuntu work with an external hard disk enclosure
[01:53] <Seveas> yes
[01:53] <dooglus> dylan_: I've had it work with both USB2 and FireWire external hard disks
[01:53] <bigkahuna> Has anyone used Azureus on Breezy after having used it on Windows? I'm finding that the interface is a little buggy on Breezy. Some of the buttons dont work as expected and the information relating to download speed and ETA for download complete is totally screwed.
[01:53] <dooglus> dylan_: kind of.  it works for about 2 hours whether I use USB or FireWire.
[01:53] <dooglus> dylan_: but with regluar reboots it's fine
[01:54] <Secreth`X> hmm, gedit is stuck here, can I do something like kill gedit?
[01:54] <dylan_> dooglus, why need reboot?
[01:55] <EvilPaddy> Ng, thanks it worked..weird, What do you think of crossover ?
[01:55] <julius> hey anyone can help get a sh file running?
[01:55] <nalioth> Secreth`X: alt-f2 > xkill  and hit gedit
[01:55] <dooglus> dylan_: the kernel module that it needs keeps crashing.  smb2 or something I think it is
[01:55] <elemental32> i have a question
[01:55] <Secreth`X> k thx
[01:56] <mustard5> Secreth`X, click multiple times on the kill button is an alternative
[01:56] <elemental32> howlong did it take for you guys to recv your ubuntu cd's??
[01:56] <Ng> EvilPaddy: for what it is, it's quite impressive I think. I prefer to use native linux apps wherever possible though - I only really use it for when I absolutely have to have IE
[01:56] <elemental32> ubuntu seems nice
[01:56] <intelikey> could i trubble one of you to dcc me a copy of /etc/bashrc  and  /etc/profile   i failed to back them up  and overwrote them with copies from another system.
[01:56] <dooglus> dylan_: sbp2 sorry
[01:56] <dylan_> dooglus, wuold it work fine under Windows XP?
[01:56] <fruud> _jason, can i just show u what error it gave me now ?
[01:56] <fruud> its 1 lined.
[01:56] <dooglus> dylan_: yeah.
[01:56] <_jason> you can paste one line errors, yes
[01:56] <dylan_> dooglus, are you saying that xp is better than ubuntu!??!
[01:56] <fruud> _jason, Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev
[01:57] <fruud> this
[01:57] <fruud> :(
[01:57] <intelikey> anyone ?
[01:57] <dooglus> dylan_: I'm saying it has better hardware support, yes
[01:57] <Milk_> whats the option to output a wave from a video file in mplayer?
[01:57] <_jason> fruud, you probably need a tcl-dev package?
[01:57] <Secreth`X> Thanks all (again)
[01:57] <elemental32> I would agree with that windows is still better than linux
[01:57] <Milk_> ls
[01:57] <dooglus> dylan_: manufacturers write drivers for XP, not for Linux for the most part.  The linux drivers are often reverse engineered
[01:58] <dylan_> dooglus, do you know how to secure Windows?
[01:58] <nalioth> brenner: about time you got here
[01:58] <intelikey> guess not.   well thanks just the same.
[01:58] <_jason> fruud, try tcl8.4-dev
[01:58] <nalioth> dylan_: yes, i do. overwrite it with linux
[01:58] <elemental32> No
[01:58] <fruud> k thx
[01:58] <brenner> nalioth: heh. hello.  what have i missed?
[01:58] <nalioth> brenner: spambot attack yesterday
[01:58] <dooglus> dylan_: you can't, really.  same as you can't secure linux.  if you want to do anything useful with it, it's got to be on-line - and then there are undiscovered holes that can be exploited.
[01:58] <elemental32> I dont recommend using linux for noobs
[01:59] <nalioth> dooglus: did you just say you couldn't secure linux?
[01:59] <brenner> nalioth: nice
[01:59] <elemental32> Trust me linux is not going to be fun
[01:59] <dooglus> nalioth: if 'secure' == '100% secure' then yes
[01:59] <nalioth> elemental32: it grows on you
[01:59] <d^-_-^b> elemental32, Ubuntu is idiot proof as you can get
[01:59] <Ng> nothing is 100% secure
[01:59] <Ng> in fact, nothing *can* be
[01:59] <nalioth> dooglus: nothing in the universe is 100% secure
[01:59] <dylan_> Ng, so in that respect could i just use windows?
[01:59] <Ng> but if you have no listening services you are a bloody long way to being secure
[01:59] <Milk_> whats the option to output a wave from a video file in mplayer?
[01:59] <Ng> dylan_: no
[01:59] <dylan_> Ng, and have the same security as linux?
[02:00] <dylan_> no?>
[02:00] <Ng> dylan_: how can you have the same security? they are different pieces of software
[02:00] <Ng> each has its own bugs
[02:00] <nalioth> dylan_: ubuntu is much nicer to use, you spend lots less time fighting viruses and other nasty stuff
[02:00] <dylan_> Ng, doesnt windows have a slew of security settings?
[02:00] <dooglus> Ng: even with no listening services, you're still at risk.  do you run a web browser?  do you view images with it?  what if the image renderer has (yet another) buffer overrun bug in it?
[02:00] <Ng> dylan_: more recent versions of windows have more security tools in them, yes
[02:01] <Secreth`X> Is there a `search` function in the File Browser?
[02:01] <Ng> dooglus: if you run ubuntu you are running a web browser with ~10% market share, that is patched quickly and regularly. You are a very veyr small target
[02:01] <dylan_> Ng, where can i go to get help on how to secure windows...i dont exactly want to use antivirus/spyware software to secure...from what i hear thats not security its just an "excuse"
[02:01] <elemental32> Hey men if your not sure just install ubuntu alongside windows
[02:01] <Ng> dylan_: no idea, I don't use windows anymore
[02:01] <dooglus> Ng: that's security by obscurity, which is no security at all.
[02:02] <mustard5> Secreth`X, there is a search function in the Places menu
[02:02] <brenner> Secreth`X: places > search for files
[02:02] <Ng> dooglus: no it's not
[02:02] <Secreth`X> ok thanks
[02:02] <Ng> dooglus: if you want a real comparison, audit both code bases. See you in a few years.
[02:02] <brenner> nalioth: meanwhile, i still seem to have that apt syncing problem
[02:02] <dooglus> Ng: and it's only patched once the hole is made public.  It could be known and exploited for years before it's disclosed.
[02:02] <Ng> dooglus: that is true of Windows too
[02:03] <Ng> dooglus: all software has bugs and holes, you pick the stuff that exposes you least and do your best to protect it.
[02:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell brenner about gpgerr
[02:03] <brenner> i.e. error that apt-cache can't be stat'ed when i search it
[02:03] <dooglus> Ng: I'm arguing with your statement that if you have no listening ports then you're almost done, security wise.  I'm not comparing Linux to Windows.
[02:03] <morphix> u cant apt-get with anything other than sudo.
[02:03] <keiron> how do i enable streaming audio?
[02:03] <morphix> oh crap. totally scrolled screen.
[02:03] <Ng> dooglus: how many legitimate sites have image overflow sploits in them?
[02:04] <Hex1> does anyone know how to get a two-plug headset workin in breezy?
[02:04] <gf-boyer> for french users what the x-chat chanel please?
[02:04] <keiron> i followed this http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs but half the packages are broken
[02:04] <brenner> nalioth: is it a gpg error thoguh?
[02:04] <nalioth> gf-boyer: #ubuntu-fr
[02:04] <nalioth> brenner: sounds like you have another error
[02:04] <gf-boyer> thank u malioth
[02:04] <nalioth> keiron: oh no
[02:04] <d^-_-^b> gf-boyer, taking break from harassing the arabs?
[02:04] <mustard5> brenner, it looks like you need to sudo apt-get update
[02:04] <nalioth> keiron: you didnt?
[02:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell keiron about ubuntuguide
[02:04] <KrimZon> i can't seem to access the upgrade page
[02:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell keiron about multimedia
[02:05] <dooglus> Ng: there was a case about a year ago where an ad-serving company was attacked.  it was serving ads to legitamate sites all over the web.  only problem was these ads were doing drive-by installs on Windows boxes.
[02:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell keiron about restricted
[02:05] <d^-_-^b> gf-boyer, don't you have some disciminating against arabs to do right now?
[02:05] <dylan_> nalioth, look at this http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/XPMyths.html
[02:05] <nalioth> dooglus: Ng: please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:05] <dooglus> Ng: limiting yourself to 'legitamate' sites doesn't help
[02:05] <brenner> mustard5: i do, and it fixes it, but the problem is the cache gets cleared every day or so, and reupdating is a pain on dialup
[02:05] <Ng> dooglus: then you are fucked on any platform. and as nalioth says, this is off topic.
[02:05] <keiron> great
[02:05] <mustard5> brenner, same thing happens to me
[02:06] <nalioth> Ng: language bubba language
[02:06] <Hex1> anyone know how to get a two plug headset working?
[02:06] <mustard5> brenner, I'm on dialup too
[02:06] <nalioth> dylan_: why are you gifting me with that link?
[02:06] <brenner> mustard5: oh? at leasdt i'm not alone....i don't seem to recall having this problem in hoary
[02:06] <dylan_> nalioth, didnt you say it was impossible to secure windows?
[02:06] <[dEvIL-bOY] > helllo
[02:06] <KrimZon> when was breezy released?
[02:06] <mustard5> brenner, yeah, I've been a bit mystified by it too
[02:06] <brenner> mustard5: have you found a fix other than updating?
[02:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> 13th last month
[02:06] <[dEvIL-bOY] > how can i transfer a file using scp to a remote machine?
[02:07] <[dEvIL-bOY] > what is the sintax
[02:07] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ?
[02:07] <mustard5> brenner, I'm wondering whether I have changed a setting somewhere
[02:07] <erik__> hello all
[02:07] <poningru> hey anyone know how to figure out what the ascii codes mean?
[02:07] <poningru> like 0xbb
[02:07] <KrimZon> so it's not likely that the page is overloaded from people trying to get it
[02:07] <erik__> I have a problem with my USB stick
[02:07] <shinu> anyone using azureus cvs here?
[02:07] <nalioth> dylan_: i have the ultimately secure windows box
[02:07] <poningru> what does that mean regarding the keyboard
[02:07] <mustard5> brenner, you using a proxy ?
[02:07] <brenner> mustard5: i'm wondering if something is clearing the cache periodically
[02:07] <erik__> USB sticks mounts read only. How can i change this?
[02:07] <shinu> erik__: how do you mount it?
[02:07] <brenner> mustard5: no
[02:07] <poningru> erik__: they shouldnt, how are you mounting it?
[02:08] <mustard5> brenner, k
[02:08] <brenner> mustard5: are you?
[02:08] <SGershon> mustard5, me bak again. I installed ALL gtk packages and now it works.
[02:08] <erik__> ubuntu breezy does a automount
[02:08] <SGershon> Like a charm
[02:08] <poningru> hmm
[02:08] <erik__> it just shows op on the desktop
[02:08] <poningru> erik__: check to see if the usb has a write protect switch or something
[02:08] <poningru> like physically on the thing
[02:09] <poningru> mine has one
[02:09] <erik__> poningru: it's of. it works fine on windows...
[02:09] <shinu> erik__: have a look at /etc/fstab maybe, and look up the line saying /dev/sda
[02:09] <mustard5> SGershon, you have done well :D
[02:09] <shinu> erik__: just guessing :P
[02:09] <occy> :/
[02:09] <SGershon> mustard5, Livin and Learning...
[02:09] <poningru> erik__: also what kinda usb key is it?
[02:09] <erik__> shinu: it's not in fstab
[02:10] <occy> if I try and apt-get remove firefox   I get the following:  The following packages will be REMOVED: firefox firefox-dom-inspector firefox-gnome-support gnome-app-install ubuntu-desktop yelp
[02:10] <dylan_> nalioth, which is to say not at all
[02:10] <erik__> poningru: it's a 1gb usbstick
[02:10] <occy> I don't want to remove ubuntu-desktop.
[02:10] <occy> heh
[02:10] <shinu> erik__: no idea then, i dont really use automount...
[02:10] <julius> hi guys how can I run a bin file
[02:10] <erik__> poningru: I've used it a lot on ubuntu before
[02:10] <poningru> erik__: what make and model?
[02:10] <mustard5> brenner, I'm thinking it clears the cache each time you shutdown and bootup (I have no real idea though)
[02:10] <erik__> poningru: TinyDisk
[02:10] <poningru> wanted to google and see if this is a common problem
[02:11] <occy> the firefox I have that's with Ubuntu is totally buggy and crashes every 5mins on me.  Very hard to use and work with.
[02:11] <halibut> Can shipit send CDs to australia? I read FAQ but didn't see anything about which countries it will send to
[02:11] <nalioth> occy: use galeon
[02:11] <nalioth> halibut: they send anywhere the post goes
[02:11] <keiron> will there ever come a time when ubuntu comes with all the "normal" user requirements are setup correctly?
[02:11] <erik__> poningru: it did work before. Can really say what changed it
[02:11] <poningru> hmm
[02:12] <poningru> erik__: right click on the thing and go to permission and try changing it there
[02:12] <nalioth> keiron: no. ubuntu is "free" and cannot include support that is patent encumbered or otw legally restricted
[02:12] <poningru> err under properties
[02:12] <erik__> pningru: I tried that. I get a response that things can not be changed because it's a read only volume
[02:12] <Ng> nalioth: yes, because eventually Real, Sun, et al will see the light ;)
[02:12] <keiron> omg... streaming audio is legally restricted?
[02:12] <poningru> hmm
[02:12] <J_element> hello nalioth
[02:12] <artur_> siema
[02:12] <poningru> I wonder why its being mounted read only
[02:13] <brenner> mustard5: maybe... i haven't pinpointed it to that, but you might be right
[02:13] <Habbie> keiron, depends on the codec :)
[02:13] <artur_> I'm from poland
[02:13] <mustard5> brenner, a cron job of some kind perhaps?
[02:13] <mustard5> brenner, I have never looked into cron much
[02:13] <poningru> have you tried umounting it and then mount it again
[02:13] <poningru> ?
[02:13] <brenner> mustard5: *nod* my initial thought....i haven't looked into it much either
[02:13] <jacek> siema
[02:13] <erik__> poningru: is there a place where i can check that it is actually mounted read only?
[02:13] <volker> anyone can help me? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4359
[02:13] <erik__> poningry: tried it serveral times
[02:14] <poningru> !automount
[02:14] <ubotu> I don't know, poningru
[02:14] <poningru> hmm
[02:14] <poningru> !mount
[02:14] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[02:14] <mustard5> brenner, I'm going to be lazy and just sudo apt-get update each day ;)
[02:14] <mustard5> brenner, less thought involved :P
[02:14] <poningru> because if its not in fstab
[02:14] <poningru> I dont know where it automounts to
[02:14] <brenner> mustard5: i hate waiting though.
[02:14] <MarcN> volker: locate Engrave.h      to see if you have the file
[02:15] <brenner> mustard5: hmm, i'm no expert on apt, but there seems to be an apt entry in the /etc/cron.daily/ dir
[02:15] <erik__> poningru : /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=wi nnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[02:15] <brenner> *no expert on cron rather
[02:15] <onkarshinde> !windowsdrives
[02:15] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:16] <volker> MarcN: no its not there
[02:16] <poningru> erik__: where did you find that?
[02:16] <MarcN> volker: or if it is a new file recently installed, try    find / -name 'Engrave.h'
[02:16] <mustard5> brenner,  "APT::Archives::MaxAge",
[02:16] <mustard5>  ?
[02:16] <erik__> poningru: result of mount command
[02:16] <poningru> ah
[02:16] <mustard5> brenner, maybe relevant..I dont know ;)
[02:16] <mylastmorning> hows ubuntu working? i haven't played with it for a month or 2...
[02:16] <agx> Hi, anyone has installed 5.10 onto a 2 Xeon server using the amd64 architecture and the smp kernel for xeon (linux-amd64-xeon) ?
[02:16] <erik__> poningru: but in pratice I can still not write to it
[02:16] <mylastmorning> any good news?
[02:17] <poningru> yeah even though it says rw
[02:17] <MarcN> volker: if you really don't have it on your system, need to perhaps install the -dev package of whatever you are trying to use.
[02:17] <brenner> gawd, i can't think properly tonight
[02:17] <brenner> s/no/know
[02:17] <poningru> yeah sorry dude I have no idea
[02:17] <erik__> poningru: thanks anyway
[02:17] <mylastmorning> anyone want to give me a personal opinion on how ubuntu has been working lately? I haven't touched it for a few months.
[02:18] <Secreth`X> does someone know a good game that runs on ubuntu?
[02:18] <poningru> mylastmorning: how do you mean?
[02:18] <volker> MarcN: i wanna compile e17genmenu
[02:18] <poningru> Secreth`X: go into synaptic, there is an entire games section
[02:18] <nalioth> Secreth`X: gnome-mines
[02:18] <Secreth`X> Yes I know those
[02:18] <poningru> Secreth`X: what kinda games are you looking for?
[02:18] <mylastmorning> poningru, I was just asking how is the development of breezy coming along? any good words?
[02:18] <Secreth`X> But I ment something like a fullscreen game
[02:18] <poningru> mylastmorning: I'd say so
[02:18] <MarcN> volker: I'm unfamilar with that, but it seems you need to install the development package of whatever library e17genmenu is trying to use.  The thing that provides Engrave.h
[02:19] <poningru> its pretty polished and everything
[02:19] <volker> MarcN: /usr/include/engrave/Engrave.h
[02:19] <poningru> Secreth`X: wolfenstien
[02:19] <volker> Engrave.h is there
[02:19] <mylastmorning> I wish I had another system to put it on so I could play with it poningru
[02:19] <poningru> Secreth`X: and variants thereof
[02:19] <Secreth`X> poningru, et of RTCW?
[02:19] <poningru> yeah
[02:19] <Secreth`X> I cant seem to get ET up..
[02:19] <MarcN> volker: so it is on your disk.  Then it could simply be a compile include path issue.
[02:19] <nathanj> i just downloaded a deb and needs some depends how can i install the deb and just get depends at the same time?
[02:19] <mylastmorning> anyone know of a IRC channel for Flash Actionscript?
[02:20] <nalioth> nathanj: what pkg?
[02:20] <nathanj> nalioth: avidemix in particular
[02:20] <poningru> et?
[02:20] <nathanj> nalioth: i downloaded the deb
[02:20] <volker> MarcN: how?
[02:20] <DigitalLF> anyone know howto recive over tcp in syslog-ng to a file called lets say /var/log/myfirewall?
[02:20] <nathanj> nalioth: ive done dpkg -i file.deb but it has depends can i just make it download the deps?
[02:20] <Secreth`X> Yes poningru I cant get it running
[02:20] <MarcN> volker: yes, as i look at it again, you don't have a    -I /path/to/Engrave.h
[02:21] <agx> Is it possible to run Ubuntu 5.10 on a dual Xeon with SMP on? I got a "crash" during the boot phase with the Xeon kernel; it boots fine with the generic 64 bit no-smp kernel instead
[02:21] <nalioth> nathanj: where did the deb come from?
[02:21] <nathanj> nalioth: a web page
[02:21] <nathanj> nalioth: i jsut did this
[02:21] <Ng> DigitalLF: syslog tends to use udp and I'm not sure if you can separate out by host
[02:21] <volker> MarcN: sorry i dont understand
[02:21] <SGershon> Installed LAMP, the Apache Package, the PHP Packages, the MySQL packages... but when calling a php page from within the WWW directory, it is not understood as one. How to make LAMP work together?
[02:21] <MarcN> DigitalLF: this month' linux mag talks about it.  -r switch is 1/2 of the hint.
[02:21] <poningru> agx: just install the normal 64bit and then from synaptic you can change it to smp
[02:21] <nathanj> sudo dpkg -i --force-depends avidemux.deb
[02:22] <nathanj> and then apt-get -f install :)
[02:22] <nathanj> fixes depps
[02:22] <nalioth> nathanj: i'm trying to find out if it's open source, and if so, will suggest you add the source repo and let apt-get build it for you
[02:22] <nalioth> nathanj: --force breaks computers
[02:22] <poningru> Secreth`X: sorry dude I dont know what ET means
[02:22] <nathanj> nalioth: it is opensource
[02:22] <nalioth> nathanj: esp with packages not native to ubuntu
[02:22] <nathanj> nalioth: meh i can fix it :)
[02:22] <DigitalLF> Ng, okey but is there a way to get everything from the network to a file
[02:23] <MarcN> volker: The -I switch to GCC says where to look for Included files like Engrave.h.  Did you start this with ./configure  ?   Try ./configure --help and man need to use a switch to point to /usr/include/engrave/ directory.
[02:23] <agx> poningru, the 64bit-generic works ok but its not SMP; when i install the package with 64bit-xeon with SMP support it crash
[02:23] <nathanj> nalioth: ive had a few packages not in ubuntu i want :(
[02:23] <Secreth`X> poningru, with ET I mean Wolfenstein Enemy Territory
[02:23] <DigitalLF> MarcN, linux mag? url? or IRL? :)
[02:23] <brenner> anyone got flac support working with bmp?
[02:23] <nathanj> nalioth: cedega, avidemux, azureus etc
[02:23] <poningru> Secreth`X: WET dude wet
[02:23] <Ng> DigitalLF: not really, syslog determins where to put a log entry by its facility (ie mail, kernel, cron, etc) and priority (info, notice, warning, error, etc)
[02:23] <Secreth`X> poningru, same :D
[02:23] <Ng> DigitalLF: so all mail.info from all hosts will go to the file you specify for mail.info
[02:23] <MarcN> nathanj: installing debs are simplest if you use download and install using a ubuntu repository.  does the depenancies for you.
[02:23] <DigitalLF> Ng, syslog-ng is the one im running
[02:23] <Secreth`X> But I still cant get it running lol
[02:23] <poningru> agx: hmm thats  weird
[02:23] <volker> yes i used ./configure
[02:23] <nathanj> MarcN: yeah but theres not muchin there
[02:24] <poningru> agx: I would probably just compile my own kernel then
[02:24] <SGershon> How to make APache and PHP to work together?
[02:24] <nalioth> nathanj: it is best to add deb-src URLs to those pkgs and have apt-get build them for you
[02:24] <MarcN> nathanj: the ubuntu repositories? Are you crazy?  enable universe and multiverse.
[02:24] <Secreth`X> ubotu, tel SGershon about apache
[02:24] <ubotu> Secreth`X: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:24] <poningru> SGershon: LAMP
[02:24] <Secreth`X> dang
[02:24] <Secreth`X> ubotu, tell SGershon about apache
[02:24] <agx> poningru, i cannot; the machine is not mine; if ubuntu is not working i'm putting i386 smp kernel or suggsting the customer to buy Suse or RH :-(
[02:24] <Secreth`X> stupid typo
[02:24] <MarcN> DigitalLF: I picked up the november issue at the local book seller.
[02:24] <poningru> !tell SGershon about apache
[02:24] <rixth> ubotu, tell me about apache
[02:24] <Secreth`X> rofl
[02:25] <SGershon> poningru, I saw the LAMP Howto, and installed all the packages. Apache is working fine, but it does not recognizes PHP files as scripts.
[02:25] <nathanj> nalioth: and if there is no deb-src addys?
[02:25] <MarcN> DigitalLF: basically you enable -r on the sending syslogd, open udp port something on the receiving syslogd and configure receiving syslogd which nodes can log to it.
[02:25] <SGershon> Secreth`X, see above.
[02:25] <Shadowpillar> okay
[02:25] <poningru> agx: hmm its probably because em64t smp support is experimental right now
[02:25] <Shadowpillar> firefox doesn't work
[02:25] <Shadowpillar> at all
[02:25] <Secreth`X> I saw SGershon
[02:25] <SGershon> ;)
[02:25] <Secreth`X> But i got it working
[02:26] <Shadowpillar> firefox that comes with breezy
[02:26] <Secreth`X> And I just read the howto
[02:26] <agx> poningru, so RH and SuSE has the same problem? wonderfull i can keep ubuntu smp 32bit then :)
[02:26] <Shadowpillar> it's BROKEN
[02:26] <Secreth`X> poningru, do you play WET? :)
[02:26] <DigitalLF> MarcN, cant access the shell on the firewall (watchguard SOHO6)
[02:26] <Shadowpillar> COMPLETELY BROKEN
[02:26] <SGershon> Secreth`X, Thanks for your attention!
[02:26] <Shadowpillar> Secreth`X: know what the hell is going on with firefox?
[02:26] <poningru> agx: yeah they probably will as well
[02:26] <nathanj> nalioth: for example what about vmware?
[02:26] <nalioth> nathanj: compile it from source code and use checkinstall
[02:26] <nalioth> nathanj: vmware is a commercial product, not open source
[02:26] <poningru> I would say just compile it to your client, cause that would be the best option
[02:26] <bigkahuna> While playing MP3 files all other computer generated sounds are blocked. For example I can not here instant messenger notification, they are acutally buffered and when I stop the mp3 playback they come blasting out of my speakers one by one. Another example is playing mp3 files while browsing sound enabled flash websites. I dont here the flash sound effects.
[02:26] <Ng> Shadowpillar: works fine here, please don't shout. If you ask a question nicely someone will reply
[02:26] <nathanj> nalioth: whats the dif beetween checkinstall from src and precomppiled deb?
[02:26] <DigitalLF> MarcN, but its sending on default port to my ip
[02:26] <Secreth`X> Shadowline, install another browser then, via synaptic
[02:27] <bigkahuna> While playing MP3 files all other computer generated sounds are blocked. For example I can not here instant messenger notification, they are acutally buffered and when I stop the mp3 playback they come blasting out of my speakers one by one. Another example is playing mp3 files while browsing sound enabled flash websites. I dont here the flash sound effects.
[02:27] <MarcN> DigitalLF: syslogd uses UDP to send log events.
[02:27] <Shadowpillar> Ng: who said I was shouting?
[02:27] <bigkahuna> oops sorry.
[02:27] <DigitalLF> MarcN, no problem if i just can recive it
[02:27] <nalioth> nathanj: precompiled debs, unless compiled for ubuntu may cause upgrade failure (or worse) for you
[02:27] <agx> poningru, ok i'll just make a last try disabling HT; thanks and c u later :)
[02:27] <Ng> Shadowpillar: I just did, because you were... "COMPLETELY BROKEN" - all caps is considered shouting
[02:27] <poningru> agx: good luck dude
[02:27] <Secreth`X> poningru, do you play WET? :)
[02:28] <poningru> Secreth`X: hehe who has time
[02:28] <DigitalLF> MarcN, if not in a own file atleast tagged somehow so i can grab it.. its for a logger on my desk..
[02:28] <poningru> plus I have this measly laptop
[02:28] <Secreth`X> poningru, I do :)
[02:28] <poningru> hehe
[02:28] <Secreth`X> :p
[02:28] <Ng> DigitalLF: the hostname is logged, so you can grep easily enough
[02:28] <Secreth`X> Btw I installed it and everything
[02:28] <nathanj> nalioth: so far ive instaklled, jre-1.5-sun, cedega, avidemux
[02:28] <Secreth`X> now that I want to run it it just closes
[02:28] <Shadowpillar> Secreth`X: also, it's shadowpillar
[02:28] <Kibou> bigkahuna: you might want to look into dmix
[02:28] <poningru> Secreth`X: hmm
[02:28] <Secreth`X> sorry Shadowpillar, typo..
[02:29] <poningru> hold on let me see
[02:29] <nalioth> nathanj: when you compile your own software you may get a more stable program
[02:29] <Secreth`X> kthx poningru
[02:29] <[dEvIL-bOY] >  scp -r /home/edgar/shot.png 1557@the1.no-ip.com:/public_html/ -d 222
[02:29] <keiron> excellent. i now have streaming audio :) thank you
[02:29] <dpupp> seveas sorry about that... my xp machine crashed.
[02:29] <MarcN> DigitalLF: http://www.linux-mag.com/ current issue describes remote syslogding
[02:29] <[dEvIL-bOY] > what am  i doing wrong?
[02:29] <poningru> Secreth`X: where did you install it from?
[02:29] <Secreth`X> Crew-Nexus.net
[02:29] <Ng> [dEvIL-bOY] : -d 222?
[02:29] <Secreth`X> -sorry for the spam-
[02:29] <nathanj> nalioth: :s
[02:29] <[dEvIL-bOY] > port
[02:30] <[dEvIL-bOY] > it's suppose to be the port
[02:30] <Shadowpillar> Secreth`X: I've been trying to get ubuntu to upgrade to breezy since 3 pm
[02:30] <Shadowpillar> it's now 5 am
[02:30] <Ng> [dEvIL-bOY] : that would be -P
[02:30] <bigkahuna> kibou: Thanks for the lead.
[02:30] <Shadowpillar> Secreth`X: it has taken me THAT LONG to get ubuntu to play nice
[02:30] <Ng> [dEvIL-bOY] : man scp :)
[02:30] <Shadowpillar> Secreth`X: because of things like this
[02:30] <MarcN> Shadowpillar: what is the problem.  I upgraded ages ago with no problems at all.  See the wiki page on upgrading.
[02:30] <Secreth`X> Shadowpillar, try Epiphany
[02:31] <Shadowpillar> Secreth`X: it's messed up too
[02:31] <Shadowpillar> because it relies on firefox
[02:31] <Secreth`X> Shadowpillar, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:31] <Shadowpillar> well I cant
[02:31] <Shadowpillar> can I?
[02:31] <Secreth`X> Sorry, I forgot
[02:32] <mustard5> Shadowpillar, Epiphany should work have you tried yet?
[02:32] <Ng> fixing firefox would seem to make more sense
[02:32] <MarcN> Shadowpillar:  lynx http://..../ should work fine.
[02:33] <Ng> Shadowpillar: check you have the ubuntu-desktop package installed - most upgrade problems come from people having removed that at some point
[02:33] <faux> does anyone know why "mail" has been left out of breezy?
[02:33] <mustard5> Shadowpillar, I had firefox go down on Hoary and used Epiphany as a backup...so I assuming its possible on breezy
[02:33] <Shadowpillar> Ng: it's installed
[02:33] <Ng> faux: I don't know why, but if you install mailx you'll get it back
[02:34] <Ng> Shadowpillar: ok, how exactly is firefox broken? does it start at all?
[02:34] <faux> Ng: ah thanks, i was looking for the package that contained it.
[02:34] <Shadowpillar> Ng: yes, but then there's a bunch of red XML warnings
[02:34] <Shadowpillar> and it eats 100% cpu and almost crashes the system
[02:35] <DigitalLF> MarcN, wierd cant find it
[02:35] <poningru> Shadowline: dude go to your home directory
[02:35] <Ng> Shadowpillar: run "firefox -ProfileManager" in a terminal and create a new one, see if it does it with that too - it could just be that your profile is broken
[02:35] <poningru> here go to a command line and type this out
[02:35] <MarcN> DigitalLF: find what?  The magazine?
[02:35] <SGershon> See: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4362
[02:35] <Shadowpillar> Ng: did that, it does the same
[02:35] <poningru> mv ~/.mozilla ~/Desktop
[02:35] <poningru> oh
[02:35] <SGershon> Secreth`X, mustard5... please see output (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4362).
[02:36] <Secreth`X> lol weird SGershon
[02:36] <Ng> Shadowpillar: that's *very* strange. If you do "dpkg -l | grep firefox", what version does it say you have installed? it should be 1.0.7
[02:36] <Secreth`X> did you follow the howto exactly?
[02:36] <SGershon> Secreth`X, I believe saw.
[02:37] <Secreth`X> ?
[02:37] <Secreth`X> oh, ok
[02:37] <DigitalLF> MarcN,
[02:37] <Shadowpillar> 1.0.7
[02:37] <SGershon> I've re-read it now, and I did everything.
[02:37] <DigitalLF> MarcN, no on the site
[02:37] <Shadowpillar> I'm gonna try reinstall it
[02:37] <Ng> SGershon: from the looks of it, you either don't have the apache php module installed or apache isn't configured to associate the php mime type with the module
[02:37] <SGershon> s/saw/so
[02:37] <MarcN> DigitalLF: they want to you buy the magazine in dead-tree form so doubt it would be online.
[02:37] <SGershon> Ng, I think it is hte second option.
[02:37] <Ng> Shadowpillar: good plan
[02:38] <SGershon> Ng, any solution to it?
[02:38] <Ng> DigitalLF: http://www.snort.org/docs/faq/1Q05/node50.html
[02:38] <Secreth`X> poningru, found anything?
[02:38] <Shadowpillar> also, somehow, ubuntu-desktop is NOT installed
[02:38] <poningru> Secreth`X: no sorry dude still looking
[02:38] <Shadowpillar> I dunno how that happened
[02:38] <Secreth`X> poningru, kthx
[02:38] <Shadowpillar> prolly somewhere in the bitter struggle to get this system to upgrade
[02:38] <Ng> Shadowpillar: if you had totem-xine installed before that would have caused -desktop to be removed
[02:39] <Ng> Shadowpillar: installing that package (and dependencies) may well fix your problems
[02:40] <Shadowpillar> what happened to xine anyway?
[02:40] <Ng> Shadowpillar: it's still there. maybe the package names changed, or the lack of ubuntu-desktop caused apt to get confused
[02:40] <DigitalLF> MarcN, sure but i cant get the "dead-tree form" :) im in school
[02:40] <poningru> Secreth`X: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/wolf/
[02:40] <poningru> have you looked through that?
[02:40] <Shadowpillar> it was the only way I could watch dvd's and obscure formats in totem
[02:41] <Ng> Shadowpillar: you should be able to install xine-ui after ubuntu-desktop, if you have the universe repository enabled
[02:41] <Shadowpillar> yep
[02:41] <vvlaw> is that can't install the win32codecs under amd64?
[02:41] <Secreth`X> poningru, it doesnt give any error
[02:41] <MarcN> DigitalLF: google is your friend.  you need syslogd-ng for one of the systems.  I read the article last night and misplaced the magazine.
[02:41] <Secreth`X> poningru, it starts, gives a black screen for some seconds and then crashes
[02:41] <Ng> DigitalLF: read the link I sent you, or read man syslog.conf
[02:42] <Ng> DigitalLF: or, better yet, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/24
[02:43] <vvlaw> who can use totem to play rmvb files?
[02:43] <poningru> Secreth`X: hmm
[02:43] <poningru> vvlaw: you need realplayer for that
[02:43] <Secreth`X> poningru, its really weird :S
[02:43] <poningru> indeed
[02:43] <poningru> have you tried running it in a terminal?
[02:44] <poningru> see what error msges you get?
[02:44] <DigitalLF> Ng, man syslog.conf dident give me anything but i will sure read the article
[02:44] <Secreth`X> I do run it in terminal
[02:44] <Secreth`X> wait
[02:44] <vvlaw> poningrui installed it on yesterday, but it did not work
[02:44] <Ng> DigitalLF: that debian-administration one specifically covers syslog-ng and exactly the situation you are talking about, I believe
[02:45] <Ng> DigitalLF: I was wrong earlier about not being able to do it, I was thinking of the default syslogd, sorry
[02:45] <Secreth`X> poningru, this is the only error: Received signal 11, exiting...
[02:45] <poningru> vvlaw: where did you install it from?
[02:46] <poningru> wtf
[02:46] <poningru> thats to terminate iirc
[02:46] <LazyAngel> Hi! I would like to syncronize my nokia 6230 with my calendar. Either Evolution or Sunbird. Does anyone know if that is possible?
[02:46] <Secreth`X> :S
[02:46] <Secreth`X> it gives me that
[02:46] <vvlaw> poningru,i down it from realplayer.com
[02:47] <damg> what package do i need for WMV support?
[02:47] <ookami> finally back online.....
[02:47] <damg> (vlc/totem/mplayer/whatever)
[02:47] <poningru> damg: w32config
[02:47] <poningru> err
[02:47] <poningru> w32codec
[02:47] <vicks> how do i get my d-link dwl-g122 (rt2500 chipset) to work in breezy?
[02:48] <ookami> <-- was known as DPUPP. Im in need of some help configuring WPA in ubuntu but i got disconnected while receiving help.
[02:48] <vicks> according to the wiki rt2500 is supposed to work out of the box
[02:48] <damg> thx
[02:48] <DigitalLF> Ng that article sure did i will go offline to reconnect the firewall and try it out thank you for all the help and i have been on google the 3h before comming here for help
[02:48] <DigitalLF> Ng, no problem =)
[02:49] <vvlaw> poningru,totem can play the rmvb files
[02:49] <damg> poningru, w32codec not found
[02:49] <vvlaw> but it need w32codec
[02:49] <DigitalLF> thank you all for a good channel =)
[02:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell damg about w32codecs
[02:49] <Secreth`X> ubotu, tell damg about w32codecs
[02:49] <Secreth`X> oops
[02:49] <keiron> doesn't thunderbird get installed as default in 5.10?
[02:49] <nalioth> damg: read your privv msg
[02:49] <vvlaw> damg, are you under the amd64 ?
[02:49] <nalioth> keiron: iirc, it does
[02:49] <El_Che> keiron: no, default is evolution
[02:50] <damg> no, x86 and w32codecs is only referenced/not available :/
[02:51] <decaf> marillat's w32codecs (for debian) has no dependencies. works for me
[02:51] <damg> ok, ill check packages.debian.org
[02:51] <nalioth> damg: ubotu told you where to get them
[02:51] <nalioth> damg: look to your priv msgs
[02:51] <damg> ah, ^^ thank you
[02:52] <nalioth> decaf: we have ubuntu packaged w32codecs
[02:52] <decaf> nalioth: where?
[02:52] <brenner> is there any way to customise the bootup screen (breezy)?
[02:52] <peterdautry> i have a weird issue with evolution, can someone tell me how to delete the files in the trash ?
[02:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell decaf about w32codecs
[02:52] <brenner> i.e. before gdm loads
[02:52] <peterdautry> checked some threads on the forums on this one, seems to be a bug ??
[02:52] <Secreth`X> Are there some programs to make the layout more fancy? Like sidebars, digital clocks, background things, etc?
[02:53] <ookami> would someone type "ookami" for me... just want to make sure highlighting is working
[02:53] <Secreth`X> ookami
[02:53] <vvlaw> who are using totem?
[02:53] <ookami> ok good. thanks.
[02:53] <Secreth`X> Welcome.
[02:53] <Secreth`X> vvlaw, I do.
[02:54] <brenner> peterdautry: heh, weird...i can't delete mine either
[02:54] <Secreth`X> I dont use Evolution.
[02:54] <ookami> ok, who would be willing to help this newbie set up wpa on ubuntu? -last time i ended up disconnected. :( sorry.
[02:54] <vv_> anybody using totem?
[02:54] <decaf> nalioth: I want to rebuild some marillat packages for ubuntu. can you host them?
[02:54] <Secreth`X> vv_, I do.
[02:55] <vv_> Secreth`X,under amd64?
[02:55] <brenner> peterdautry: try in preferences, mail preferences section, changing the delete trash drop list
[02:55] <Secreth`X> vv_, No.
[02:55] <brenner> or 'empty trash folders on exit' list rather
[02:55] <El_Che> ookami: if using madwifi and wpa, make sure to use the package from dapper (breezy has a bug)
[02:55] <vv_> Secreth`X,o ...can you play rmvb files from totem?
[02:56] <Secreth`X> vv_, you need realplayer for that.
[02:56] <ookami> El_che,  the only thing i have accomplished so far is to get the wpa_supplement.
[02:56] <vv_> but i knew that totem can play rmvb already
[02:56] <El_Che> ookami: wpa_supplicant
[02:56] <brenner> peterdautry: that works...it seems like they don't let you "delete" them manually, rather, they sort of use a garbage collecter
[02:56] <El_Che> :)
[02:56] <vv_> Secreth`X,you installed realplayer?
[02:56] <Secreth`X> vv_, yes
[02:57] <ookami> El_che yeah that :)
[02:57] <brenner> imo, they should have provided both
[02:57] <vv_> Secreth`X,i installed it on yesterday, but i can't open it
[02:57] <ookami> is there a document wrtting about step-by step wpa?
[02:57] <Secreth`X> ubotu, tell vv_ about realplayer
[02:58] <Secreth`X> vv_, check your msgs.
[02:58] <peterdautry> ok brenner, let me check out
[02:59] <theine> !realplayer
[02:59] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:00] <Secreth`X> poningru, found something?
[03:00] <decaf> is there a way to make gtk1.x apps look like gtk2.x? at least similar
[03:00] <poningru> Secreth`X: nah dude no clue
[03:00] <poningru> sorry
[03:01] <vv_> Secreth`X,realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb is not for the amd64
[03:01] <Secreth`X> need a screenshot?
[03:01] <poningru> sure
[03:01] <peterdautry> thanks brenner, it automaticaly deletes now when i quit evolution
[03:01] <Secreth`X> poningru, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i4363
[03:01] <Secreth`X> vv_, sorry. I forgot.
[03:02] <brenner> peterdautry: np
[03:02] <ekimus> decaf: i bet there is (fedora even makes kde look like gtk apps), but i have no idea how (maybe some fedora howtos on that topic are available)
[03:02] <Secreth`X> but Shadowpillar says that you can play .rm with totem, if you installed w32codecs.
[03:02] <Shadowpillar> and xine
[03:03] <poningru> Secreth`X: that makes nos sense dude, sorry I have no clue
[03:03] <poningru> try posting it on the forums
[03:03] <poningru> brb
[03:03] <Secreth`X> heh
[03:03] <Answer>  Does anyone have a vnc server recommendation please?
[03:04] <vv_> Secreth`X , you said i need to install w32codecs,but how can i do that?
[03:04] <ekimus> Answer: tightvnc
[03:04] <decaf> ekimus: that theme called "bluecurve" I just remembered. thenks
[03:04] <vv_> is that amd64 system can't not install the w32codecs?
[03:05] <LazyAngel> vv_: yes, but not wmv
[03:05] <Ophiocus> w32codecs are restricted format, check it out in the starters guide ->multimedia
[03:05] <cusco> !w32codecs
[03:05] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/
[03:07] <Secreth`X> !restrictedformats
[03:07] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[03:07] <vv_> LazyAngel,i can't install the win32codecs :(
[03:07] <vv_> LazyAngel,how i can do that?
[03:07] <nalioth> Seveas: we got trouble
[03:08] <LazyAngel> vv_: i found a howto once. i'll see if i can find it again
[03:09] <vv_> Secreth`X,if i need down this :http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/breezy-extras/w32codecs_20050412.orig.tar.gz ?
[03:09] <sarek> hi
[03:09] <vv_> LazyAngel,thanks for your help
[03:09] <xet7> Hi, I'm trying to remove temp files made by aegis, 17800 files, and rm -rf aegis* says "argument list too long", what to do?
[03:10] <theine> vv_, you need to get the .deb file
[03:10] <Seveas> xet7, ls aegis* | xargs -n100 rm
[03:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vv_ about w32codecs
[03:10] <Habbie> Seveas, ls will complain just the same :)
[03:11] <Seveas> Habbie, hmm
[03:11] <ProN00b> whats aegis ?
[03:11] <Habbie> Seveas, in fact it's not rm or ls complaining
[03:11] <vv_> theine vv_, that deb files not support amd64
[03:11] <kode4u> hi, which ftpd is better running on ubuntu?
[03:12] <morphix> Your system does not provide a working zlib compression library.
[03:12] <morphix> hmm
[03:12] <morphix> what do i need to install to get that?
[03:12] <nalioth> vv_: you are out of luck, unless you want to run your a/v stuff in a 32bit chroot
[03:12] <nalioth> morphix: search synaptic for zlib
[03:12] <xet7> ls | grep aegis | xargs -n100 rm -rf
[03:12] <xet7>                   <--- this works, thanks :)
[03:12] <Habbie> indeed :)
[03:12] <morphix> nalioth: how?
[03:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell morphix about synaptic
[03:13] <morphix> btw i am in terminal only.
[03:13] <klaaner-libby> Hi :-) I have a question to KUbuntu's KDM. Every change I make to KDM with the control center is stored in /etc/kde3/kdm/... as I would expect it. But it seems like another login manager is started because nothing changes, no matter what I change in the config. How can I get the "normal" KDM?
[03:13] <nalioth> morphix: then "apt-cache search zlib"
[03:13] <morphix> ok thanks.
[03:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell morphix about apt-get
[03:14] <LazyAngel> vv_: sorry. i can't find it, but it is somewhere on ubuntuforums.org
[03:14] <morphix> i know about apt-get .. except the searching side of it. lol
[03:14] <LazyAngel> vv_: either a link from a post, or a howto there...
[03:14] <sarek> is there a way to have thunderbird and firefox show up in English although I have german gnome-desktop language and german language support installed? If I manually deinstall mozilla-firefox-locale-de-de the package language-support wil be deinstalled as well - which I want to keep if possible
[03:14] <sarek> so I only wanna change the language for certain apps
[03:14] <Secreth`X> Imma gonna leave for a while. Tired.
[03:15] <nalioth> Secreth`X: go have a beer
[03:15] <Secreth`X\Away> hehe, I will :)
[03:16] <hussam>  I'm getting a LCD screen today. do I boot to recovery mode and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[03:16] <hussam> what about Modeline in xorg.conf. how will it rewrite that line?
[03:16] <Lathiat> hussam: pass -phigh before the xserver bit
[03:16] <Lathiat> hussam: you customimzed it?
[03:16] <Lathiat> modeline is monitor specific anyway
[03:16] <Lathiat> so poabbly doesnt apply to your new one
[03:17] <hussam> no modeline setting needs to be reset?
[03:17] <emgee> Is there an app or script to randomly change the desktop wallpaper? :)
[03:17] <vv_> LazyAngel,anyway...thanks for your help
[03:19] <hussam> Lathiat: so I do dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ?
[03:19] <vv_> is that amd64 can install this cd? PC (Intel x86) install CD?
[03:19] <Shadowpillar> SUCCESS
[03:19] <Shadowpillar> MWAHAHAA
[03:19] <Shadowpillar> firefox works
[03:19] <Habbie> vv_, the Intel x86 CD works on amd64; the amd64 CD doesn't work on 32bits CPUs :)
[03:19] <Shadowpillar> turned out to be a huge issue with a python package
[03:19] <Shadowpillar> conflict
[03:20] <Ng> Shadowpillar: cool :)
[03:20] <Ng> Shadowpillar: I mean, cool that it works and stuff now :)
[03:20] <vvlaw> Habbie, so i can't download http://releases.ubuntu.com/breezy/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso for install it?
[03:21] <Habbie> vvlaw, yes, you can. on an amd64 machine, -both- CDs work
[03:21] <Lathiat> hussam: yes
[03:22] <vv_> Habbie,what cpu you are using?
[03:22] <Habbie> vv_, I have several machines
[03:22] <vv_> Habbie,and what's your os now
[03:22] <Habbie> vv_, it varies :
[03:22] <Habbie> my workstations run freebsd
[03:22] <vv_> Habbie, do you usd the ubuntu system?
[03:23] <Habbie> vv_, yes, on a few servers; my gf runs it on her workstation
[03:23] <gardin> hi, i have been looking for a dist for a long time, and haven't really found anyone suitable, i would like a clean and fast dist where i have control over the system, cause i think redhat / suse contains too much un needed stuff and boots too slow, do you think i should use ubuntu? thanks!
[03:24] <Answer> ekimus, when I try tightvncserver, it complains about fonts not found
[03:24] <gardin> i've tried crux too, i get control, but i want something with X and gnome / KDE all set up...
[03:24] <vv_> Habbie,your girlfriend? cool
[03:24] <cyphase> hmm
[03:24] <cyphase> my light just flickered
[03:25] <cyphase> and so did the streetlight across the street
[03:25] <vv_> in my nearly friends, nobody use linux system...
[03:25] <gardin> come on! please :D
[03:25] <nalioth> gardin: try it, it's as unique as you want it to be
[03:25] <hussam> Lathiat: the -phigh will take care of reconfiguring the Modeline, correct?
[03:25] <Shadowpillar> I also removed OO.O
[03:25] <Shadowpillar> which HELPED
[03:25] <Shadowpillar> OO was the wrench in the works
[03:26] <theine> hussam, chances are you won't even need a modeline for your LCD screen
[03:26] <keiron> vv_: i didn't know anyone that used linux until i started my first proper job
[03:27] <vv_> keiron, so and you? which os are you using? :D
[03:27] <crighton> i cant seem to get the hoary-backports repository working no matter which mirror i use .. ive tried all combination given at this page http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php, weirdly hoary-extras works fine at all four of the given urls
[03:28] <nalioth> crighton: there are no backports
[03:28] <nalioth> woops, n/m
[03:28] <nalioth> crighton: the repos are kinda wonky atm for hoary stuff
[03:28] <keiron> vv_: ubuntu linux ;) i converted from windows only last week
[03:28] <Answer> When I try to run tightvncserver, it says "Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'"  I can't find this in /etc/vnc.conf to remove it
[03:29] <keiron> although i dual boot with windows so i can play games
[03:29] <crighton> nalioth, ok thanks
[03:31] <gardin> ok, but i had kubuntu already on a cd, so i'll try it first, but KDE uses to be kind of slow, so maybe i'll get ubuntu, since it's going to run on a 400Mhz...
[03:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gardin about xubuntu
[03:31] <gardin> omg
[03:31] <nalioth> gardin: you can install from your kubuntu cd and then install ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop
[03:31] <gardin> aha, so i'll get gnome or both?
[03:32] <nalioth> gardin: you can run any DE you wish
[03:32] <Shadowpillar> what's the diff between those two btw?
[03:32] <Shadowpillar> xubuntu and ubuntu?
[03:32] <gardin> sounds nice, but isn't _ubuntu based on debian? i dont like debian :D
[03:32] <nalioth> ubuntu uses gnome and xubuntu uses xfce4
[03:32] <nalioth> gardin: then goodbye
[03:33] <nalioth> gardin: ubuntu is based on debian SOURCE
[03:33] <nalioth> gardin: we dont think like debian or are set up like debian
[03:33] <nalioth> gardin: join #debian and see
[03:33] <vv_> vv@weiwei:~/soft$ sudo realplay
[03:33] <vv_> sudo: realplay: command not found
[03:33] <vv_> vv@weiwei:~/soft$
[03:33] <nalioth> vv_: please dont paste in here
[03:33] <nalioth> vv_: did you read the /topic when you arrived?
[03:33] <hussam> theine: how does X actually know what vertical and horiz frequency work with each resolution?
[03:34] <gardin> hehe, yea, but debian uses old kernels, does ubuntu do that too?
[03:34] <nalioth> hussam: do LCD displays even have sync rates?
[03:34] <agro1986> help: What to install to play .it files? (a music file)
[03:35] <hussam> nalioth: I think so. The Dell ones we have at the university do.
[03:35] <nalioth> hussam: i think just running the xserver reconfig will do alright
[03:35] <hussam> nalioth: ok cool
[03:36] <keiron> is there a recommended php editor for gnome? will kate work in gnome?
[03:37] <nalioth> keiron: gedit is the equivalent to kate
[03:37] <nalioth> keiron: bluefish is a little more specialized, tho
[03:37] <gardin> what kernel uses ubuntu?
[03:38] <meuserj|work> gardin: 2.6.12
[03:38] <nalioth> gardin: 2.6.12 in breezy
[03:39] <agro1986> keiron: kate will work, however you kde libs will be installed. I think a "sudo apt-get install kate" will do
[03:40] <agro1986> (correction) keiron: kate will work, however kde libs will be installed. I think a "sudo apt-get install kate" will do
[03:40] <keiron> hmm
[03:40] <keiron> ill try gedit first
[03:40] <keiron> thanks
[03:40] <gardin> ooh, 2.6 :D
[03:42] <hussam> nalioth: I hope my LCD screen gets delivered today. Otherwise I'd have to wait till Monday.
[03:42] <vv_> vv@weiwei:~/soft$ fglrxinfo
[03:42] <vv_> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:42] <vv_> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[03:42] <vv_> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:42] <vv_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:42] <vv_> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[03:42] <dpupp> ok, ive been trying to understand how to get wpa working to secure my wifi, but im having some problems understanding how to get it done properly. all the information i receive seems to be fragmentes... always something missing. could someone guide me through the process step by step?
[03:42] <vv_> it it mean that i did not installed the ATI drivers?
[03:43] <dpupp> last time i was being helped, i ended up disconnected unfortunatly.
[03:43] <brenner> vv_: possibly
[03:43] <brenner> vv_: you follow the wiki?
[03:44] <gardin> anyone that knows what the hardware requirements would be for gnome or KDE? is a 400Mhz / 192MB RAM able to run it smooth? cause, i tried KDE on other machines with really bad results :P
[03:45] <nalioth> gardin: try all of the DEs available
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> gardin: it would run 'ok'
[03:46] <gardin> yeah, but i want someone that is, complete or something, i think xfce is too limited, but i haven't tested it so much...
[03:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> gardin: i know ubuntu Hoary runs (slowly) on a p233+96m RAM
[03:47] <Shadowpillar> throw blackbox on that system
[03:47] <Shadowpillar> or xfce4
[03:47] <gardin> ok, then i hope that this computer is enough faster :D
[03:47] <Shadowpillar> voila
[03:47] <Shadowpillar> prob solved
[03:47] <Shadowpillar> gnome should not be used with anything that has less than 256MB of ram
[03:47] <Shadowpillar> or less than 350 mhz
[03:47] <gardin> nah, i don't want xfce :P, i haven't tried blackbox...
[03:48] <nalioth> gardin: you can also use enlightenment
[03:48] <gardin> yeah, maybe...
[03:49] <vvlaw> Linux x86_64
[03:49] <vvlaw>         * RADEON 8500 Series and higher
[03:49] <vvlaw>         * FireGL Series
[03:49] <nalioth> vvlaw: why are you pasting?
[03:49] <gardin> but when i tried xfce, i ended up with xfce and the settings window and a console, i like the console, but i want to have some kind of programs menu, or did i config it wrong?
[03:49] <vvlaw> i'm Radeon x550, so what i need down ?
[03:50] <nalioth> gardin: xubuntu-desktop gets you a full featured desktop, not just xfce4
[03:50] <gardin> vvlaw: RADEON 8500...
[03:51] <brenner> ati and 64bit?  didn't people have probs with that combo?
[03:51] <gardin> yeah, ok, because i installed xfce4 on redhat a long time ago, and got nothing than xfce it self :P
[03:51] <vvlaw> gardin,x550 higher than 8500?
[03:51] <Shadowpillar> nalioth: is that was xubuntu is?
[03:51] <gardin> yes, X=10 or something
[03:51] <Shadowpillar> xfce4?
[03:51] <vvlaw> brenner,yes ...i'm ati and 64bit
[03:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Shadowpillar about xubuntu
[03:51] <gardin> or, however, it's a later version
[03:51] <dorto> can i just remove the usb devices from ubuntu system or should i run some cmd before that(unmount sth)?
[03:51] <vvlaw> gardin,thanks
[03:51] <Shadowpillar> gotcha
[03:51] <Determinist> NX is so wonderful :D
[03:51] <gardin> np
[03:51] <Shadowpillar> could have just said "yes"
[03:52] <Determinist> beats RDP/VNC by any possible standard
[03:52] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: now you can look at all it contains
[03:52] <Shadowpillar> I got a good idea
[03:53] <gardin> the kubuntu installer crashed
[03:53] <gardin> :P
[03:53] <vvlaw> ATI Driver Installer or X-Windows Version?
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> dorto, umount /media/usbdisk
[03:54] <wickedpuppy> ot right click on the icon on the desktop and click eject
[03:54] <dorto> wickedpuppy:  its not a disk; its my webcam.
[03:54] <gardin> vvlaw: try ATI
[03:54] <Joe05> Hiya guys. I recently re-installed kubuntu due to a hard disk failure and because im using an old monitor. When I open windows they go off the screen (e.g. I cant see the bottom half of the box). I fixed this once before but cant remember how I did it. Any ideas?
[03:55] <gardin> vvlaw: maybe it's easier, but if it doesn't work, you can try the other one :D
[03:55] <dpupp> how do i find out what driver mywifi card is using in ubuntu... i think i need this info for wpa....
[03:55] <vvlaw> gardin,thanks :D
[03:55] <dpupp> this is starting to get frustrating. :(
[03:55] <vvlaw> is it this one? ati-driver-installer-8.18.8-x86_64.run?
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> dorto, then just unplug it ? ... i thought you wanna know how to unmount
[03:56] <Determinist> is there some way to remove certain components of the openoffice suite? i've no need for some of the stuff that comes with it ;/
[03:56] <dorto> wickedpuppy: so i can just unplug it if its a webcam? ok
[03:56] <Determinist> cant remove stuff because a bunch of things depend on it
[03:57] <brenner> vvlaw: try using the driver in the repo, using the wiki instructions
[03:57] <Joe05> Any idea peeps?
[03:57] <brenner> before going that route
[03:57] <nalioth> Determinist: just remove what you want. remember to put "ubuntu-desktop" back b4 you upgrade to dapper
[03:57] <dorto> how to install just the samba client? such that i can access the shared folders of windows present on other systems from ubuntu
[03:57] <gardin> vvlaw: sounds good, if you have a 64bit processor...
[03:57] <brenner> vvlaw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:57] <gsnedders> anybody got any suggestions for a computer to run ubuntu? preferably under 100
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> !javadebs
[03:58] <Ng> Determinist: do you really need to remove it?
[03:58] <ubotu> Sun Java debs packaged for Ubuntu. Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy))
[03:58] <Determinist> nalioth, cant mate, the dependencies are all messed up. cant remove most of it without removing the other parts that i want
[03:58] <nalioth> Determinist: then i guess you're stuck where you are
[03:58] <Determinist> Ng, why have something installed that i never use? this isnt windows last i checked, i should have a choice here.
[03:58] <dpupp> how do i restart a wifi card\/
[03:58] <Ophiocus> if a bounch of things depend on something, my guess is that you better leave it there
[03:59] <Ophiocus> not like its ruining your disk space anyway
[03:59] <Ng> Determinist: you do have a choice, but as you have already noticed, removing it will remove other things. Ubuntu package things in such a way as to provide an integrated desktop - if you want ultimate choice/control you will have to fight with something like gentoo
[03:59] <Ophiocus> remember, choice comes with know how
[03:59] <gardin> dpupp: rmmod? or what it is called? and then modprobe
[03:59] <Determinist> Ng, no go mate, tried gentoo, that system has too much "dick around with stuff" overhead :)
[04:00] <Ng> Determinist: indeed
[04:00] <Ng> Determinist: so, your best option is to just ignore openoffice being installed ;)
[04:00] <Determinist> Ng, i suppose :)
[04:00] <Determinist> or i could just bitch and whine to the guys at oo.org and make them hate me enough to want to change that :P
[04:01] <Determinist> 603 users... woah
[04:01] <Joe05> Hiya guys. I recently re-installed kubuntu due to a hard disk failure and because im using an old monitor. When I open windows they go off the screen (e.g. I cant see the bottom half of the box). I fixed this once before but cant remember how I did it. Any ideas?
[04:01] <Determinist> this OS got popular eh?
[04:01] <gsnedders> anybody got any suggestions for a computer to run ubuntu? preferably under 100
[04:01] <Joe05> want a screenshot?
[04:02] <Ng> Determinist: sending a patch would be more likely to work ;) I do accept the point that ubuntu does sort of "force" you to have certain things installed, but it really is easier that way :)
[04:02] <nalioth> Joe05: we know what you have, but nobody knows the answer atm
[04:02] <Niomi> Determinist: is it any wonder why it's popular? :)
[04:02] <Determinist> gsnedders, any used PIII/duron with 256+ ram and a 32MB gfx card, 10 gig HD. just scrap stuff from friends and ebay and voila
[04:02] <Determinist> Ng, yes, you're right, i guess
[04:03] <Determinist> Niomi, just handed 20 shipit CDs to a load of friends at work who've seen my machine when i used NX at work to connect home, they're all going to dick around with it today :d
[04:03] <Determinist> :D
[04:03] <dpupp> the instructions im following calls for adding a line as: ctrl_interface=/vat/run/wpa_supplicannt ... however that line is already in the conf file... should i add it again?
[04:04] <whyameye> where do I find the .conf file for wireless WEP?
[04:04] <gardin> by the way, to boot a USB-memory, can you use lilo like a harddisk with a mbr? or do you have to use isolinux or something??
[04:04] <gsnedders> would ubuntu run on a P1 120mhz?
[04:04] <Habbie> gsnedders, yes
[04:04] <gsnedders> with GUI?
[04:04] <nalioth> gsnedders: with a light weight window manager, yes
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> gsnedders,  yes -  but the install may take some time.
[04:04] <gardin> gsnedders: yes, but don't use gnome, kde or something
[04:04] <Ng> it'd be slow
[04:04] <gsnedders> schweet
[04:04] <Habbie> gsnedders, with gnome, not happily; although memory is more of an issue
[04:04] <Ng> gsnedders: if you do go with a slow CPU, try and get as much RAM as you can
[04:04] <Niomi> Determinist: That is really awesome. I'm considering switching my mother to Ubuntu, she's less familar with windows than my father, so I'm hoping it will go well.
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> I ran it on a P1   - 100mhz laptop.
[04:05] <gsnedders> just realised i had a P1 upstairs :)
[04:05] <Ng> gsnedders: at that end of the performance scale RAM tends to make more difference than anything else in my experience
[04:05] <Habbie> Ng, hard cold fact, that :)
[04:05] <penguinzdr> hey guys i have a problem with nvidia drivers. i've installed them via synaptic, edited xorg.conf properly and restrt x. only the splash screen of nvidia is showing and nothing happens. i have to reset the comp to work and edit xorg.conf in recovery
[04:05] <gsnedders> would it probably be PC2100 RAM?
[04:05] <Ng> Habbie: hehe, I'm trying not to overstate my case, but yes ;)
[04:05] <penguinzdr> what should i do?
[04:05] <Habbie> Ng, :)
[04:05] <Determinist> Niomi, it should if you spend about 2 hours configuring stuff for her :) the problem remains for me that the guys here that are familiar with the english language are those who can deal with ubuntu anyways and those who arent just cant.
[04:05] <marlun> I put the computerin hibernate, when I tried to start it again, it started up, then closed down and restarted again, and now when I click on Firefox it tells me to choose another profile because the default one is in use, what have happend?
[04:06] <gardin> gsnedders: on your 120Mhz? no, SDRAM PC100?
[04:06] <trappist> penguinzdr: ctrl-alt-f3 (for example) doesn't take you to a shell?
[04:06] <Ng> gsnedders: I very much doubt it, it'll be old SIMMs if it's a P1
[04:06] <Determinist> Niomi, so basically, teaching my mother how to use ubuntu would be teaching her english.
[04:06] <gardin> yeah, SIMM, PC66 or PC100?
[04:06] <gsnedders> I've never opened it up, i haven't a clue what's inside it :)
[04:06] <penguinzdr> trappist: i've tried only with f1, i dont know about f3. f1 takes me to a console in gnome
[04:07] <gsnedders> brb
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> marlun,  close all firefox windows and in the shell use 'killall firefox-bin'   I think to make it clean itself up.
[04:07] <Niomi> Determinist: Can't you change the language Ubuntu uses.. somewhere? I'm not too familiar with it but I think I ran into that setting while dicking around..
[04:07] <clb_> is xorg 7.0 installable in ubuntu through repositories?
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> marlun,  it may be somthing other then firefox-bin. Been a while since ive had to do that trick
[04:07] <Ng> clb_: no
[04:08] <marlun> Dr_Willis, okey, should I not use the hibernate function, I rememver I also choosed "save current setup" in the dialog before putting it into hibernate
[04:08] <Ng> Dr_Willis: it may be a stale "lock" file in his profile too
[04:08] <Determinist> Niomi, it's not perfect, had alot of work put into it by afew local guys, but still, it's far from perfect.
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> Ng,  yea - firefox seems to be annoying in that respect. :(
[04:08] <marlun> Ng, stale "lock" file?
[04:08] <Answer> How do I launch the Theme preferences from the command line?
[04:08] <dpupp> anyone familiar with wpa? i need someone to guide me through the process of securing my wlan with wpa...
[04:08] <clb_> what about linux kernel 2.6.14.2?
[04:09] <penguinzdr> trappist: now i've tried. it takes me to a console
[04:09] <Ng> marlun: when firefox runs it makes a file in your profile called "lock" - so that it can be sure it doesn't launch two copies at a time, but it is possible for it to crash or be killed in such a way that the file remains and so any further attempts to start ff fail
[04:09] <gsnedders> ok, for my P1 120mhz, there's a max of 128MB ram
[04:09] <gsnedders> would thhat be enough?
[04:09] <penguinzdr> mto a shell i mean
[04:09] <Ng> gsnedders: barely ;)
[04:10] <marlun> ok, so in my home folder theres a file called lock then? if thats the case?
[04:10] <nickrud> Answer, gnome-theme-managert
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> gsnedders,  I ran with less.. slowly
[04:10] <whyameye> where is the file that sets WEP and SSID for wireless?
[04:10] <nickrud> *manager
[04:10] <marlun> I tried the killall firefox-bin thing and got this: firefox-bin: no process killed
[04:10] <Niomi> Determinist: it's a shame that Ubuntu has limited support for foreign languages. Which language is it?
[04:10] <Ng> marlun: not just in your home folder, it'll be in $HOME/.firefox/your_profile_name_here/
[04:10] <gsnedders> i've got a feeling this is gonna be fun..,. trying to get a P1 to run as fast as humanly possible :)
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> marlun,  try 'ps ax | grep fox' see what processes are there.
[04:10] <nalioth> nickrud: i see the roosters are loud around your place
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> gsnedders,  become a console comando!
[04:11] <gsnedders> Dr_Willis: i need a GUI unforchanatly :(
[04:11] <Answer> nickrud, thanks gnome-theme-manager
[04:11] <nickrud> nalioth, early morning is the only time it's quiet here
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> gsnedders,  nay.,,, you 'think' you need one. :P
[04:11] <nalioth> gsnedders: you'll be fine with a lightweight window mangler
[04:11] <penguinzdr> cya soon guys, i have no time to wait
[04:11] <Determinist> Niomi, hebrew, it's a tough one for computers since it's written right to left, uses no latin fonts and has a fucked up syntax :)
[04:12] <nickrud> ah, the days of mc, mutt and lynx ;)
[04:12] <marlun> Dr_Willis, nothing happend after I wrote that.
[04:12] <gsnedders> spend 3 times as much as I'd spend on a RAM for that and get a 2.26GHz Celeron
[04:12] <marlun> Ng, okey =) I'll see if I can find it, how do I list hidden files?
[04:12] <nalioth> Determinist: mind you manners, please, there's ladies present
[04:12] <gsnedders> that's starting to look like a better option :)
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> marlun,  well all firefox processes seem to be dead then.    could just try 'ps ax | less' see if ANYTHING seems related to firefox.
[04:13] <Ng> marlun: run "find $HOME/.mozilla -name lock" in a terminal
[04:13] <ke_> Hey.. I apt-got gawk and gcc, what can I do now? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4364
[04:13] <nalioth> ke_: better to install "build-essential"
[04:13] <Determinist> nalioth, sorry
[04:13] <ke_> I see :) Thanks
[04:13] <marlun> Dr_Willis, nah couldn't find anything that looked like it had anything to do with firefox.
[04:13] <Ng> marlun: (where I said .firefox earlier I meant .mozilla, sorry)
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> ke_ depends on what you were trying to do int he first place. :P
[04:13] <marlun> Ng, ok
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> marlun,  "Its Dead Jim!" :P
[04:14] <ke_> nalioth, where do I get it?
[04:14] <marlun> Dr_Willis, what!? =P
[04:14] <m0biu5> are there any good DC++ clients in the repos anywhere
[04:14] <ke_> Doh
[04:14] <ke_> Forget it :)
[04:14] <ke_> Works now
[04:14] <ke_> Thx
[04:15] <marlun> Ng, It seemed to find something yes.
[04:15] <nalioth> m0biu5: yes there are gui and text dc++ clients
[04:15] <CarinArr> dr_willis, scary nickname.. that's the name of my supervisor
[04:15] <CarinArr> heh
[04:15] <marlun> Ng, /home/marlun/.mozilla/firefox/sqcyio83.default/lock was shown under my line.
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> :) You're fired for chatting on company time!
[04:15] <Ng> marlun: ok, well if you're sure firefox isn't running, delete that file
[04:15] <CarinArr> hah
[04:16] <gardin> the ubuntu installers hangs, i think it's something wrong with my harddisk, since many programs have crashed, like tar, gz and others... what should i do? some kind of low-level formatting?
[04:16] <m0biu5> nalioth, do you knw their names?
[04:16] <nalioth> m0biu5: enabled universe and multiverse repositories and search for them using synaptic
[04:17] <marlun> Ng, worked like a charm :) Firefox is now up and running! I have to save this till next time this happends, thanks!
[04:17] <Ng> marlun: cool :)
[04:18] <m0biu5> nalioth, i have them enabled - not turning anything up =/
[04:18] <marlun> Ng, yeah =) learning more every hour. I installed ubuntu yeasterday and are using linux for the first time.
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> gardin,  perhaps a reformat/reinstall.. and a new install cd.. if you have to do a 'true' low level format.. its time to get a new hd. :P
[04:19] <server_newbie> I need some help as I am a newbie. I have installed iptables and downloaded gShield. I want to lock down my machine execpt for one port. I am at a loss as what to do next.
[04:19] <nalioth> m0biu5: search for dc++ and see what turns up
[04:19] <m0biu5> nalioth, C++ libs
[04:20] <nalioth> m0biu5: if you've enabled those repos, there are dc++ proggys in them. perhaps you should update your apt-get
[04:20] <m0biu5> nalioth, i am getting a  signature error for hoary-updates
[04:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell m0biu5 about gpgerr
[04:21] <dpupp> sigh.... i give up on wpa for now.
[04:21] <linuxgeek2> !hi
[04:21] <ubotu> hi!
[04:21] <linuxgeek2> !resol
[04:21] <ubotu> linuxgeek2: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:21] <dpupp> is there ANY means of securing wifi in ubuntu?
[04:21] <linukso> does anyone else have problems printing from firefox? I searched the forums, but it didn't solve my problem... The margins are all messed up!
[04:22] <rubys> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[04:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rubys about gpgerr
[04:23] <m0biu5> nalioth, i can update now, but still no DC++  - is it in the backports possibly?
[04:23] <dpupp> does ubuntu support wep?
[04:23] <brenner> m0biu5: package searching needs some work, doesn't it? :-/  imo, they should switch to full word-sensitive, like google, rather than the substring thing it does now
[04:24] <brenner> it's a bitch to find stuff...to much irrelevant crap
[04:24] <m0biu5> brenner, i agree =/
[04:24] <nalioth> !info dcgui
[04:24] <ubotu> dcgui: (Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.80-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 1352 kB
[04:24] <dorto> how to pair a bluetooth device in ubuntu? bluetooth manager is showing my mobile phone
[04:24] <dorto> where to find documentation for bluez-utils?
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> dorto,  I recall editing a file in /etc/ to set my PIN #. and restarting the bluetooth server
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> dorto,  check /usr/docs  yet?
[04:24] <clb_> if I take /usr/src/linux/.config as base for my new kernel installation (menuconfig), does it have the settings that the clean ubuntu install had?
[04:25] <dpupp> are there any known bugs with ubuntu and wep encryption?
[04:25] <dpupp> ive been kicking my ass for the last 5 hours trying to secure my wifi
[04:25] <gardin> dpupp: there is a channel about wireless network on freenode...
[04:25] <dorto> Dr_Willis: k. found some docs in /usr/share/doc
[04:26] <dpupp> lis/t
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> dorto,  yea - there to. :P
[04:26] <dpupp> thanks gardin. ill try there.
[04:26] <gardin> ok
[04:26] <ke_> Hmm, where can I get glip? Tried apt-getting glip and gtk
[04:27] <RockClimber>  hello all. I'm fiddling with tv-out, 855 (i810 driver) in fedora core 4. I have TV-out cloning the LFP, but need some help with the details
[04:27] <RockClimber>  Any ideas how to change the resolution used in this line (from teh Xorg log) "I810(0): Display Info: TV: attached: TRUE, present: TRUE, size: (800,600)"
[04:27] <RockClimber> I have black border around the TV picture of the flat panel
[04:28] <dorto> Dr_Willis: the file you mentioned was perhaps /etc/bluetooth/pin
[04:28] <dorto> Dr_Willis:  thx for the info
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> dorto,  seems logical. :P
[04:28] <brenner> ke_: glip?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> dorto,  it took me some time to get it all working. but it works better under Linux then it does windows for me.
[04:29] <dorto> Dr_Willis: hahaha
[04:29] <dorto> my device is now paired :)
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> dorto,  also - i found the KDE bluetooth tools to work better for my needs
[04:29] <dorto> oh
[04:29] <dorto> would install kubuntu-desktop then
[04:35] <intelikey> hi, i have a 5.04 issue.   "  sox: Depends: libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[04:35] <intelikey> E: Broken packages"
[04:35] <dorto> how to find what port a usb device is connected to?
[04:35] <RockClimber> intelikey, switch to fedora core then
[04:35] <nalioth> intelikey: build it from source repos
[04:35] <dorto> i am told bluetooth devices map to rfcom sth
[04:36] <dorto> there is no such file in /dev
[04:37] <intelikey> nalioth i installed in from apt-get install one time before which, i would think, would mean that something on this system is messed up.
[04:37] <ke_> glib even
[04:37] <clb_> is there anyone here who has 2.6.14.2 running?
[04:37] <shedi> dorto, dmesg might give you info about your usb device
[04:38] <clb_> I'm trying to compile it but I get a missing header file from the build
[04:38] <nalioth> intelikey: i dont know the hx of your box, you can try to have apt-get build it from source for yo
[04:39] <clb_> look at this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4365
[04:41] <clb_> did I do something wrong or is the file really missing.. I downloaded the full source from kernel.org
[04:42] <theine> Firefox 1.5 is out
[04:42] <trappist> rc2 is out
[04:42] <_jason> theine, only rc2 right?
[04:42] <theine> could be, yes...
[04:43] <theine> the automatic update said 1.5
[04:46] <klaaner-libby> I have set the default LANG from de_DE.UTF8 to de_DE.iso-8859-15. Now everything works fine with X, but I have problems with the console: When I'm asked for a login name German Umlatus still work, but when I'm logged in, they don't. What must I do?
[04:50] <[dEvIL-bOY] > how do add a newsgroup to pan
[04:50] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i went to their website
[04:50] <[dEvIL-bOY] > but don't have any help documents
[04:50] <[dEvIL-bOY] > does anyone use it?
[04:50] <nalioth> [dEvIL-bOY] : under tools, > servers
[04:50] <RockClimber> Release Candidates shouldn't have RC in the name or they're not true RCs
[04:51] <Habbie> RockClimb, huh?
[04:51] <Level2> [dEvIL-bOY] , firstly download group list from your newsgroup server
[04:51] <Level2> and then subscribe, those which interest you
[04:52] <[dEvIL-bOY] > humm
[04:52] <brenner> cool, pan-users.
[04:52] <[dEvIL-bOY] > doesn't work
[04:52] <[dEvIL-bOY] > nothing works
[04:52] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ermmm
[04:53] <gearry> I am trying to get sleep/suspend working on my laptop, and all acpi related processes seem to hang at startup
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> well ya got to enter the info for your newsgroup server. then download their list
[04:54] <[dEvIL-bOY] > is this a correct address
[04:54] <[dEvIL-bOY] > news:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
[04:54] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ??
[04:54] <nalioth> [dEvIL-bOY] : it is not
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> [dEvIL-bOY] ,  for the pan news group reader.. i would say you are totally confused.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> does Ubuntu have its own newsgroup server?
[04:55] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i found that one
[04:55] <[dEvIL-bOY] > and i wanted to add
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> that looks like a 'mailing list' to me.
[04:55] <[dEvIL-bOY] > so is the address a website ending in .html?
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> [dEvIL-bOY] ,  nope. a news server is like any other server..  ie: newsgroups.yourisp.com
[04:56] <marlun> I've downloaded a tar.gz file and opened it in fileroller but when I try to extract it to /var/www/ I get a message that I do not have the right permissions to do it, how can I fix that?
[04:56] <dpupp> what does ipw2200 stand for?
[04:56] <[dEvIL-bOY] > hummm
[04:56] <[dEvIL-bOY] > what about posts and all that
[04:57] <hyakuhei> Help! what do I apt-get to get C refrence manuals, for "man scanf" etc
[04:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell marlun about cli
[04:57] <nalioth> marlun: use sudo
[04:57] <[dEvIL-bOY] > aren't they considered as news as well?
[04:57] <foampeace> how might i reconfigure my X
[04:57] <blackhat> How can I install qtparted?
[04:57] <marlun> nalioth, thanks
[04:57] <hyakuhei> blackhat: apt-get install qtparted
[04:57] <foampeace> I wanna have a high refresh rate without editing text files
[04:57] <blackhat> It doesn't work.
[04:58] <blackhat> it cant find it.
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> a 'news' server is not the same as a mailing list server. unless thers some sort of crossover setup they can do.
[04:58] <hyakuhei> hrmm
[04:58] <nalioth> blackhat: enable universe and multiverse repos
[04:58] <blackhat> How would I do that
[04:58] <blackhat> whats the command =/
[04:58] <daved> has anyone set up vmware host on breezy?
[04:58] <daved> after running the config, bridging fails, and the box becomes unusable...  cant sudo ... resource monitor stops moving.. most other things seem to work
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> !repos
[04:58] <ubotu> repos is, like, How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:58] <sproingie> bah.  when does grumpy get off the ground?
[04:59] <brenner> foampeace:  well, you _could_ reconfigure the xorg package...
[04:59] <barcay> Hi all. Im using the i386 Breezy image on a PC using a Celeron D processor, is that ok? I've just noticed a couple of other distro's (Suse, Fedora) stating that Celeron D users should use an x86-64 image. is that the same as the Breezy AMB 64 image?
[05:00] <sproingie> barcay: no you most certainly do not want a 64 bit distro
[05:00] <sproingie> barcay: i don't know if celeron even has EMT64, but even if it does, you probably don't want a 64 bit distro unless you have a specific reason
[05:00] <sarek> hi
[05:01] <ProN00b> whats wrong with 64bit distros ?
[05:01] <sproingie> ProN00b: 32 bit games with no accellerated 3d
[05:01] <Niko__> there's 32 bits too much, that's what
[05:01] <Niko__> ;-[
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> ProN00b,  nothing.. untill you want to run somthign that dosent work on them.
[05:01] <Habbie> ProN00b, on an -intel- 64bit machine, you want to run the 32bit distro -unless- you have more than 4 gigs of ram
[05:01] <sarek> I am trying to compile a qt application, but after doing qmake -project and qmake, make complains about not finding qapplication.h and so on. Can you help?
[05:01] <ProN00b> humm
[05:01] <ProN00b> ok
[05:02] <barcay> sproingie: I don't want because its not compatible?
[05:02] <sproingie> Habbie: linux will use PAE for >4gigs on 32 bit.  it's a hack if you're writing apps for it, but most users wont notice
[05:02] <ProN00b> and 32bit os just runs on 64bit processors like that ?
[05:02] <brenner> sarek: what app?
[05:02] <sproingie> barcay: it's compatible enough, but there's a lot of stuff that isn't ported.  some media players.  flash.  games.
[05:03] <nalioth> sarek: yoiu need libtq*-dev
[05:03] <tony_> hi guys
[05:03] <sproingie> barcay: it'll run 32 bit stuff in a chroot, but it won't use the 64 bit device drivers.  so no accellerated 3d when running 32bit
[05:03] <sarek> brenner: an app for university - but it works on the computers there, so it has to be a setup problem
[05:03] <sproingie> that said, 3d accellerated 64 bit blender is screamingly fast
[05:03] <sarek> nalioth: libqt3-dev is installed
[05:03] <ProN00b> why couldn't they just make linux run 32bins and 64bins without chroot haxxing...
[05:03] <tony_> had just install ubuntu and it looks so strange to me
[05:03] <DM|Can0n> Is anyone using NForce4 with a 5.1 speaker system in here ?
[05:03] <sproingie> ProN00b: because apt can't handle multiple architectures on one system
[05:03] <tony_> may i know , how to i execute a "exe"
[05:03] <nalioth> sarek: perhaps you need another variant of libqt*-dev
[05:03] <aeon17x> tony_: WINE
[05:04] <ProN00b> sucky, fix apt
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> tony_,  what are you even wanting to run thats a .exe ?
[05:04] <sproingie> ProN00b: it does run 32 bit stuff without a chroot.  the kernel doesn't care, but the distribution does
[05:04] <barcay> sproingie: Not concerned about 3D, just want to be getting the most out of my PC.
[05:04] <tony_> no no , i mean i want to run a exeutable file
[05:04] <tony_> WINE ? that is ?
[05:04] <sproingie> barcay: you're unlikely to notice the difference
[05:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tony_ about wine
[05:04] <Habbie> sproingie, the problem with PAE is that it chops 10% off your overall performance
[05:05] <tony_> hey thanks a lot
[05:05] <nalioth> tony_: read your priv msg from ubotu
[05:05] <sproingie> barcay: in fact, the smaller cache on the celerons might suffer with emt64
[05:05] <Habbie> sproingie, at that point the choice between 32bits/64bits OS becomes hard :)
[05:05] <barcay> barcay: Really? Ok...
[05:05] <sarek> hmmmm what I found put so far is: qmake generates this include inside the g++ call: -I/usr/share/qt3/include but that dir does not exist ... on my installation it's /usr/include/qt3
[05:05] <sproingie> Habbie: for servers there's no question, 64 bit is the way to go
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> tony_,  you need to clarify what you are trying to do - i think.
[05:05] <barcay> sproingie: Not that I've got a clue what your talking about.
[05:05] <Habbie> sproingie, not always
[05:06] <ProN00b> sounds all a bit hackish
[05:06] <Habbie> sproingie, on -intel- CPUs, with less than 4 gigs of ram, 32bit is the way to go :)
[05:06] <sorin> hello
[05:06] <ProN00b> i hope the problems get solved
[05:06] <sproingie> all the other times, i wish i'd gone with 32 bits
[05:06] <blueblood> hmm, the website is down, and the enlightenment channel seems dead, so I ask here... After I installed Enlightenment, how do I change it to my main "shell"?
[05:06] <Habbie> on amd64 the choice is clear
[05:06] <tony_> i think you guys get me wrong, i didnt want to install a windows .exe
[05:06] <Habbie> run a 64bit distro
[05:06] <sorin> I need some help to install the messenger
[05:06] <Habbie> -unless- there are compatibility-issues
[05:06] <nalioth> sarek: symlinks may help you
[05:06] <tony_> i have just downloaded a "xmahjongg-3.6.1.tar.gz" file
[05:06] <ProN00b> sproingie, 64bit asm ? wtfz0rz !
[05:06] <sproingie> Habbie: eh.  there's no performance difference.
[05:06] <sorin> If U can help me please contact me on privat
[05:07] <Habbie> sproingie, there is
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> blueblood,  in the past ive had to edit the gdm files to make it add an entry for it. The ubuntu wikis detail this I think.
[05:07] <dpupp> what is the command to test WPA?
[05:07] <sproingie> Habbie: although i do also run xfs.  which is zoom zoom fast on a 64 bit distro.
[05:07] <tony_> when i open with archieve manager if gave me quite a number of files ,
[05:07] <nalioth> blueblood: at the login, click 'sessions' and choose it
[05:07] <Habbie> sproingie, on amd64, that is. not on intel cpus :)
[05:07] <DM|Can0n> Is someone using a 5.1 system ?
[05:07] <Habbie> sproingie, yes, anything involving large numbers or numbers that can -become- large is faster on 64bits :)
[05:07] <blueblood> nalioth, oh, ok, will try :)
[05:07] <nalioth> blueblood: we'll be here waiting
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> blueblood,  theymay have fixed elightment where it now adds its entry to the sessions now. (i'd hope)
[05:07] <sproingie> Habbie: i just remembered that xfs is my main reason for sticking with 64 bit.  more stable than reiser, and boy it's fast
[05:07] <blueblood> nalioth, haha :)
[05:07] <zion115> hey guys just installed KDE is there a synaptic package manager in KDE?
[05:07] <Habbie> sproingie, there is never a good reason to use reiser
[05:07] <nalioth> Dr_Willis: they have if you follow the right forum post
[05:08] <Habbie> sproingie, and I love xfs; although I have never used xfs -with linux- :)
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> nalioth,  :P
[05:08] <sproingie> Habbie: reiser3 is certainly better than ext3 when you're dealing with millions of files (think maildir spools)
[05:08] <sarek> nalioth: hmmm i can try that although I don't like the idea ... shouldn't a proper link be set when instaling the package?
[05:08] <Habbie> sproingie, yes, but; reiser is still a reliable way to lose all your data
[05:08] <Habbie> sproingie, including reiser3
[05:09] <leggy> hi...i want to install ubuntu breezy badger on my laptop. the installtion runs correctly but when i start ubuntu it hangs up while starting hotplug subsystem! does anyone know this problem or/and know how to solve it?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> leggy,  what kind of laptop? cpu/video card?
[05:09] <sproingie> Habbie: reiser4 needs a few more years in the oven.  frankly so does reiser3, but it seems to do about as well as ext3
[05:09] <sproingie> Habbie: i've experienced plenty of data loss with ext3
[05:10] <blank> fgl_glxgears right?
[05:10] <brenner> tony_: stop right there....you can install apps easily using synaptic
[05:11] <barcay> sproingie - AMD Opteron, Athlon 64, AMD Athlon 64 X2, Intel Xeon, Xeon MP, Pentium 4 Extreme Edition, Celeron D. There are the processors Suse recommend you use a 64 bit image with. Is the Breezy i396 architecture different in that it is optimised for the Celeron D?
[05:11] <brenner> tony_: instead of manually installing from a source archive, which is what you're meant to do with the source archive you have there
[05:11] <leggy> cebop hel 700, cpu pentium centrino 1,8 ghz
[05:11] <barcay> i386
[05:11] <tony_> brenner , i guess synaptic is the word
[05:11] <sproingie> barcay: suse's recommendations are geared toward servers, since that's suse's niche.  it depends on what you want to do with your machine
[05:12] <blank> what was the thing to make my window drawing faster? Wasn't it backstop or seomthing, in my xorg.conf
[05:12] <leggy> graphic card: intel(R) 915GM/GMS, 910 GML, Express Chipset family
[05:12] <brenner> tony_: yep, start up synaptic: system > admin > synaptic, xmahjongg is in the universe repo, so you may need to enable it if you haven't yet
[05:12] <sproingie> barcay: i will say that if you want to do entertainment-type stuff like a/v, you could possibly run into problems.  and if you want 3d accellerated commercial games, you'll be out of luck
[05:13] <leggy> audio: intel high definition audio
[05:13] <nanaquame> I am a new ubuntu user and i am loving it
[05:13] <sproingie> barcay: i run a chroot, but it's a lot like having two linux boxes.  in fact my 32 bit chroot is running dapper while my 64 bit is breezy
[05:13] <julius> hello guys, how do i install deb packages?
[05:14] <phoenix_atlantis> sproingie: sometime I just wish I wouldn't have xrun's....
[05:14] <slew> hi, how do i get the numlock to come on when ubuntu loads?
[05:14] <blank> woo, i sit back with these packs of six bags of this weed that gives me the shit needed to be the meanest..
[05:15] <blank> yay i wub ubuntu
[05:15] <slew> blank, send me some of those bags, eh?
[05:15] <sarek> ok I got it ... I installed qt3-apps-dev and that installed a lot of dependent files. now it's working
[05:15] <sproingie> i also have gentoo in a chroot, but i hardly use it.  might go back to using it if grumpy doesn't come around, since i like bleeding edge language dev stuff
[05:15] <leggy> hi...i want to install ubuntu breezy badger on my laptop. the installtion runs correctly but when i start ubuntu it hangs up while starting hotplug subsystem! does anyone know this problem or/and know how to solve it?
[05:16] <barcay> sproingie: Well I guess I was expecting better performance from breezy.  I've got a 2.5Ghz Celeron with 1GB RAM, Windows ran a lot quicker and I was looking for reasons as to why. Thought the i386 vs 64 Bit may have been the answer. I dont want to do anything more than web browsing and some a/v stuff...
[05:16] <brenner> nanaquame: brilliant, welcome.
[05:16] <blank> my windows lag when I move them, how do I make them faster, was it backstop on in my xorg.conf or something
[05:17] <sproingie> barcay: i'd give a 64bit livecd a try and compare it side by side with a 32bit one.  you may notice the performance
[05:17] <theine> sproingie, your advice is to avoid 64 bit distros in general?
[05:17] <Ophiocus> barcay you may want to try i686 enhance kernel
[05:17] <sproingie> barcay: if you use a filesystem like xfs, you'll definitely notice the performance
[05:18] <barcay> Ophiocus: Whats that then?
[05:18] <nanaquame> thankx brenner i have been using windows all my 25yrs on earth and i never knew there was something this good on earth WOW
[05:18] <blank> please, my windows lag when I move them, how do I make them faster, was it backstop on in my xorg.conf or something
[05:18] <sproingie> theine: not really, i run 64 bit ... i'm just warning of some of the problems ... definitely not recommended for gamers or for home a/v
[05:18] <sproingie> theintern: for servers, 64 bit's the only way to go
[05:19] <brenner> nanaquame: lol, yeah, it's a bit of alright isn't it?
[05:19] <sproingie> blank: never heard of backstop... you talking about backing store?
[05:20] <DM|Can0n> Doesnt anyone in here uses nforce4 with nforce drivers ?
[05:20] <blank> sproingie: that!
[05:20] <sproingie> blank: backing store might help, might make it worse if you're really tight on RAM.  try it one way or the other and see
[05:21] <sproingie> blank: if you have a really fancy theme, you might try toning it down.  X is *not* good with space when it comes to storing pixmaps
[05:21] <zion115> Hello
[05:21] <moccah> Hi
[05:22] <Ophiocus> barcay at instalation time you are asked which you prefer, choose 686 over 386
[05:22] <brenner> Ophiocus: we are?
[05:23] <gleizer> Hello!
[05:24] <blank> sproingie: So what's the command, I'm running gnome, should I turn it on? I cant stand this lag
[05:24] <gleizer> You can hear me?
[05:24] <Mabus06> Nope.
[05:24] <sproingie> blank: i dont think there is one ... it's deep in the guts of the config file, and i havent messed with that file in years except to change or fix drivers
[05:25] <Ophiocus> i think you need the install to run with the "epert" switch but yeah, you get a choice
[05:25] <nalioth> gleizer: no. we see you typing, though lol
[05:25] <gleizer> hehehe
[05:25] <gleizer> thanks
[05:25] <blank> sproingie: :(, some guy told me last time, I forgot
[05:25] <Ophiocus> where "epert" should read as "expert" :P
[05:25] <gleizer> I'm brazilian
[05:26] <gleizer> Sorry for the bad english
[05:26] <nalioth> !br
[05:26] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[05:26] <brenner> Ophiocus: ah, that'd be it then.
[05:26] <nalioth> gleizer: now you have a choice
[05:27] <gleizer> Thanks again.
[05:27] <nalioth> gleizer: de nada
[05:27] <Ophiocus> brenner in expert mode it ll ask some aditional configuration issues (disk enhancing features and the such) you can safely avoid inputing info you dont know, the install will sense a default when you dont
[05:27] <gleizer> ??? Do you speak portuguese?
[05:27] <USER012788> chi  che vuole chattare con me?sono nuova
[05:27] <aitiba> hi
[05:28] <Ophiocus> gleizer, the uboto bot gave you a brazilian lang channel, it only says is in portuguese to be polite
[05:28] <gleizer> hi, aitiba
[05:28] <brenner> Ophiocus: yeah, i've never tried an expert install...ta
[05:28] <gleizer> Hehehe
[05:28] <gleizer> My first time
[05:28] <aitiba> someone can help me with RaLink RaLink RT2500 wireless network card, please?
[05:29] <zion115_> hi
[05:29] <zion115_> again
[05:29] <TheAttacks> hi
[05:29] <zion115_> can any1 help me with steam?
[05:30] <aitiba> I have the module installed (rt2500) but when I do 'iwlist ra0 scan' dont search anything any ideas?
[05:30] <blank> can I play songs through my ipod on my computer with gtkpod
[05:30] <barcay> can I get info such as CPU serial number from the command line somehow
[05:30] <barcay> ?
[05:30] <Ep|phany> does anyone know why i cant find wine in synaptic
[05:31] <zion115_> any1 know how to adjust reesolution on kde?
[05:31] <Ethan> you need universe repository
[05:31] <Ethan> I guess
[05:31] <Ep|phany> i have it
[05:31] <Ep|phany> still cant see it
[05:31] <Ophiocus> Ep|phany,  go to the starter page in ubuntu guide and check "how to i install the universe repository"
[05:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ep|phany about wine
[05:31] <Ep|phany> ophiocus i already have universe repiository
[05:31] !alindeman:*! Hi all.  The York LUG (based in York, England) is running an Install Weekend at the University of York this coming Saturday and Sunday; more information is available at http://www.york.lug.org.uk/installday and #ylug
[05:31] <gleizer> I have nvidia fx 6200 tc
[05:32] <nalioth> Ep|phany: read what ubotu just sent you
[05:32] <zion115_> Resoultion on KDE if any knows how to plz?
[05:32] <bastardkestrel> can someone help me with an install problem?
[05:32] <Ophiocus> bastardkestrel, first of all please do change your nick
[05:32] <bastardkestrel> ubuntu does not detect my cdrom on install, is there some boot option that might help?
[05:33] <gleizer> Max resolution is 1024x768... can you help me?
[05:33] <nalioth> zion115_: ask in #kubuntu
[05:33] <gleizer> I have nvidia fx 6200 tc
[05:33] <zion115_> oh thanx
[05:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gleizer about rixres
[05:33] <brenner> rixres?
[05:33] <bastardkestrel> Ophiocus: its not my nick, its my password by mistake
[05:33] <nalioth> brenner: yes, it's instructions for drunks
[05:34] <Determinist> this joomla CMS thing is fantastic, thing just works :)
[05:35] <bastardkestrel> Ophiocus: its the name of an obscure punk band. if it offends you i may change it
[05:35] <aitiba> does anyone has a RT2500 wireless network card running on breezy?
[05:35] <brenner> !tell gleizer about fixres
[05:35] <nalioth> aitiba: did you follow the wiki article?
[05:35] <nalioth> brenner: beat you to it, bubba
[05:35] <Ep|phany> when i type sudo apt-get install libgtk-1.2 libgtk-1.2-common it says package could not be found and i already refreshed
[05:35] <brenner> nalioth: you beat me to rixres
[05:36] <nalioth> brenner: /msg ubotu tell brenner about msg the bot
[05:36] <nalioth> aitiba: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[05:36] <brenner> nalioth: sneaky bastard
[05:36] <barcay> nalioth: How many cups of coffee have you had today?
[05:37] <brenner> barcay: rix at least
[05:37] <blank> Anyone here use gdesklets?
[05:37] <brenner> or maybe reven
[05:37] <DJHasis> Does anyone know how can I reset the root-pass cause when I installed breezy on my amd64 it didn't ask any pass for root
[05:37] <nalioth> barcay: coffee? i dont drink it
[05:37] <Habbie> DJHasis, use sudo
[05:37] <nalioth> blank: ask your question, please
[05:37] <agro1986> DJHasis: sudo passwd
[05:37] <barcay> nalioth: OK, how many cans of red bull?
[05:37] <blackhat> I love redbull
[05:37] <remi> hi all
[05:38] <nalioth> bigkahuna, you've changed your nick
[05:38] <[dEvIL-bOY] > hello
[05:38] <[dEvIL-bOY] > convert -resize 640x480 -colors 14 /home/edgar/dragon.png splashimage.xpm && gzip splashimage.xpm
[05:38] <aitiba> nalioth, I try with this but I cant finish the tutorial
[05:38] <barcay> is that against the rules?
[05:38] <[dEvIL-bOY] > when i try to do this it tells me that convert is not a valid command
[05:38] <[dEvIL-bOY] > what's that all about?
[05:38] <nalioth> barcay: i like to know who i'm talking to
[05:38] <agro1986> DJHasis: but normally you don't need to log in as root. When you need to do administrative stuffs, just append "sudo" before the command, such as "sudo rm -rf /". That's the ubuntu way (tm)
[05:38] <nalioth> aitiba: what part do you get to. tell us please
[05:39] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i'm following the instructions from the ubuntu unofficial guide
[05:39] <nalioth> [dEvIL-bOY] : stay away from ubuntuguide
[05:39] <[dEvIL-bOY] > why is that?
[05:39] <[dEvIL-bOY] > nalioth, ?
[05:39] <terje> hi all, does ubuntu have any built-in virtulization software? A-la zen?
[05:40] <headsroll> hello
[05:40] <DJHasis> agro1986 I just installed only the base-system cause I can't start x with my pci-express gpu
[05:40] <remi> hi
[05:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell [dEvIL-bOY]  about ubuntuguide
[05:40] <Ethan> er... I am having problem with fluxbox installation....
[05:40] <headsroll> can someone help me with an install problem?
[05:40] <aitiba> nalioth, I dont have this structure in the archive of cvs that I download (cd ~/rt2500-cvs-daily/Utilitys)
[05:40] <DJHasis> so it would be nice to know how can I use sudo apt-get update & apt-get-install x
[05:40] <gleizer> Thanks for the tip ... I try resolve my problem...
[05:40] <headsroll> neither ubuntu or kubuntu can detect my cdrom
[05:40] <nalioth> aitiba: then go browse to it and direct download it
[05:41] <godmode2k> let me know best mp3 player app. as winamp.
[05:41] <[dEvIL-bOY] > out of date hey
[05:41] <blank> what's a good burner for linux
[05:41] <blank> cd burner
[05:41] <aitiba> nalioth, download what?
[05:41] <brenner> DJHasis: tried the vesa driver?
[05:41] <blank> cd/dvd burner
[05:41] <nalioth> DJHasis: install "xserver-xorg"
[05:41] <DJHasis> brenner yes
[05:41] <brenner> it's pretty much a failsafe
[05:41] <headsroll> is there a boot option that may help cdrom to be detected?
[05:41] <nalioth> godmode2k: use xmms, you'll be amazed
[05:41] <Ethan> brenner,  k3b
[05:42] <godmode2k> gg
[05:42] <nalioth> blank: k3b
[05:42] <Secreth`X> Heya folks
[05:42] <brenner> Ethan: what about it? :)
[05:42] <godmode2k> xmms... ^^ just apt-get install xmms ?
[05:42] <nalioth> aitiba: the cvs files
[05:42] <blank> k3b is t3h b3st ?
[05:42] <DJHasis> nalioth I can't install anything cause I can only log as a restricted-account what I had to make in the installation-process
[05:42] <nalioth> godmode2k: use synaptic, it's more fun
[05:42] <brenner> godmode2k: get beep-media-player instead of xmms
[05:42] <Secreth`X> Is there some feature in Ubuntu that allows you to see your hardware specs?
[05:42] <aitiba> nalioth, this http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/rt2400/rt2500-1.1.0-b3.tar.gz
[05:42] <headsroll> is this thing on? usually i did not end up a register place
[05:42] <Ethan> there is no best
[05:42] <nalioth> DJHasis: you are not restricted
[05:42] <blank> k3b works with gnome right?
[05:42] <headsroll> !ubuntu
[05:42] <ubotu> I guess ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[05:42] <godmode2k> nalioth: thanks ^^*
[05:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell DJHasis about root
[05:42] <nalioth> aitiba: looks good to me
[05:42] <DJHasis> nalioth why can't I use apt-get
[05:43] <blank> nalioth: k3b works with gnome right, and it burns CDs and DVDs
[05:43] <nalioth> DJHasis: does it not work?
[05:43] <nalioth> blank: correct
[05:43] <aitiba> nalioth, I download this (wget http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/rt2400/rt2500-1.1.0-b3.tar.gz
[05:43] <aitiba> tar -xzf rt2500-1.1.0-b3.tar.gz
[05:43] <aitiba> ) the same of the how to
[05:43] <remi> I have installed my wifi card IPN2220 with ndiswrapper, it's recognized, I can scan my wifi network with # iwlist scanning , but I cant change any parameter of the card : nothing happen if I do : #sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid, or If I do # sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc ...... anone knows how to do it work?  (sorry for my bad english i'm french ;)  )
[05:43] <DJHasis> it says the same error that useally it says when using any other account than root
[05:43] <nalioth> aitiba: and then what?
[05:43] <nalioth> DJHasis: use sudo
[05:43] <headsroll> i want to install ubuntu on a notebook, but it fails at finding cdrom
[05:44] <Ethan> sudo or log in as root
[05:44] <DJHasis> sudo asks pass and if I press enter it says that password is wrong
[05:44] <headsroll> other distros work but i dont want to use them
[05:44] <nalioth> Ethan: ubuntu has no 'root' account
[05:44] <nalioth> DJHasis: it sounds as if your install stopped in the middle
[05:44] <Ethan> but you can
[05:44] <Ethan> su
[05:44] <aitiba> nalioth, I descompress it
[05:45] <nalioth> Ethan: it is not the ubuntu way
[05:45] <morphix> i so want to blow up zlib
[05:45] <morphix> does anyone know where i can get it?
[05:45] <blank> in windows I can press a certain button on my mouse to go back on firefox, and the other to go forward, is there a way to make that happen in linux/ubuntu?
[05:45] <morphix> apt-get cant seem to find
[05:45] <morphix> :(
[05:45] <Secreth`X> Is there some feature in Ubuntu that allows you to see your hardware specs?
[05:45] <nalioth> morphix: in the repos are several implementations of zlib
[05:45] <Ethan> sorry but this is mine... I am not used to sudo that is why
[05:45] <remi> any1 for my problem?
[05:45] <aitiba> nalioth, Im installing kernel headers
[05:45] <zion115> hi
[05:46] <nalioth> morphix: install zlibc
[05:46] <nalioth> Secreth`X: in a terminal, type "sudo lshw"
[05:46] <zion115> Right channel to ask for help with WineCVS?
[05:46] <Ep|phany> i pasted this in my sources.list deb http://wine.sf.net/apt breezy but now when i update i get this error  E: Malformed line 26 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) am i doing something wrong?
[05:46] <Ethan> er ... can't install fluxbox... I got an error : can't replace the file /usr/share/man/man1/bsetroot.1.gzalready used by blackbox
[05:46] <Secreth`X> ok thanks nalioth
[05:46] <nalioth> Ep|phany: make sure you pasted no blank spaces (they count as characters)
[05:46] <ltxxx> I'm having to different terminal connections to my machine from two computers. would it be possible to change from one connection to the other and see what's going on there?
[05:47] <headsroll> x-chat sucks
[05:47] <nalioth> headsroll: use irssi
[05:47] <headsroll> at least here on ubuntu
[05:47] <Ep|phany> still haveing the problme
[05:47] <DJHasis> nalioth the installation didn't say that anything went wrong and after the installation I took the dvd from my drive and when it booted ubuntu it installed the remaining packages
[05:47] <Habbie> Ethan, fluxbox and blackbox are related and therefore incompatible within the set of packages you have; I'd uninstall blackbox first
[05:47] <zion115> Any1 who can help me with wineCVS?
[05:47] <barcay> nalioth: Whats is the land speed record on the african ostrich?
[05:47] <zion115> plz
[05:47] <brenner> headsroll: how so?
[05:47] <headsroll> it did not ask me to register so i was merrily typing away
[05:47] <headsroll> to no one
[05:47] <nalioth> zion115: ask your question, insteaad of asking to ask
[05:47] <aitiba> nalioth, are you reading me?
[05:47] <headsroll> i was able to ask ubotu though
[05:48] <remi> I have installed my wifi card IPN2220 with ndiswrapper (acer labtop) , it's recognized, I can scan my wifi network with # iwlist scanning , but I cant change any parameter of the card : nothing happen if I do : #sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid, or If I do # sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc ...... anone knows how to do it work?  (sorry for my bad english i'm french ;)  )
[05:48] <zion115> HAving problems with wineCVS check out
[05:48] <nalioth> aitiba: you are installing kernel headers
[05:48] <zion115> takes forever never finishes
[05:48] <Ethan> Habbie, that's a good idea... I wish to be clever.... I though since fluxbox was based on bb I needed bb. I will try
[05:48] <headsroll> anybody else got a problem with my user name?
[05:48] <Habbie> Ethan, hehe :) that's an understandable line of thought
[05:48] <aitiba> nalioth, Im installing gcc 3.4
[05:48] <headsroll> bugger off
[05:48] <Ep|phany> anyone have any ideas why im getting this problme
[05:48] <chi> in breezy is hostap included in the kernel or do i need to recompile?
[05:48] <headsroll> can some one help me install, i have no cdrom detected?
[05:49] <morphix> thankx nalioth
[05:49] <nalioth> !tell headsroll about smartboot
[05:49] <headsroll> its a notebook that halts at detecting cdrom
[05:49] <nalioth> headsroll: ubotu just msg'd you
[05:49] <headsroll> is there some boot option i could try
[05:49] <headsroll> ok
[05:50] <headsroll> thanks
[05:50] <ancient> Anyone know why i cant see a linux box using vncserver ?
[05:50] <DJHasis> does anyone know that will hoary work properly on a amd64 pc cause if I try to format my breezy-partition and install Hoary on top of that?
[05:51] <ancient> trying to see a linuxbox, but the winblows system cant find it
[05:51] <Ophiocus> ancient try samba
[05:51] <ancient> samba ?
[05:51] <Ethan> Habbie, seems to work, I will give a try with a log in.
[05:51] <ancient> what and why ?
[05:51] <headsroll> nalioth: i dont have a floppy
[05:51] <remi> I have installed my wifi card IPN2220 with ndiswrapper (acer labtop) , it's recognized, I can scan my wifi network with # iwlist scanning , but I cant change any parameter of the card : nothing happen if I do : #sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid, or If I do # sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc ...... anyone knows how to do it work?  (sorry for my bad english i'm french ;)  )
[05:51] <aitiba> nalioth, I cant find qt3-dev qt3-dev-tools
[05:51] <aitiba>  or libqt3-dev libqt3-dev-tools
[05:51] <aitiba> . Are this two programs essential?
[05:51] <tobi-wan> ancient: how, not see? do you want to access files or do you want to ping it?
[05:51] <Ophiocus> !tell ancient about samba
[05:52] <Ophiocus> am stating to get used to the bot
[05:52] <Ophiocus> :P
[05:52] <headsroll> nalioth: all other distros find the cdrom fine, but i want ubuntu because of its good wireless
[05:52] <clb_> what should I do when grub-install says error loading stage1?
[05:52] <Ep|phany> i have a laptop and when im plugging in my external mouse its not working is there anyway i can fix that
[05:52] <nalioth> aitiba: you should have those files, they are standard
[05:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell headsroll about verify
[05:53] <hamdan> hi
[05:53] <tjerk> Hi
[05:53] <hamdan> i have 1 Q.
[05:53] <tjerk> Whats that?
[05:53] <brenner> Ep|phany: usb?
[05:53] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: take a crack at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:54] <ancient> Whats this mean in samba ?
[05:54] <ancient> account_policy_get: tdb_fetch_uint32 failed for field 1 (min password length), returning 0
[05:54] <hamdan> i have wireless router ( linksys ) i try to connect to it but i cant help me
[05:54] <ancient> about 10 lins like that
[05:55] <DM|Can0n> Is anyone use nforce4 with nforce drivers in here ?
[05:55] <aitiba> nalioth, I install qt3-dev-tools have I install qt3-dev?
[05:55] <hamdan>  i have wireless router ( linksys ) i try to connect to it but i cant help me
[05:55] <hamdan>  i have wireless router ( linksys ) i try to connect to it but i cant help me
[05:55] <Ethan> Habbie, nice! There is nothing but I can use it. Thanks
[05:55] <Ep|phany> oh sorry i guys i was afk
[05:55] <Ep|phany> no its a regular mouse
[05:55] <Habbie> Ethan, cool
[05:55] <hamdan>  i have wireless router ( linksys ) i try to connect to it but i cant help me
[05:56] <Ophiocus> hamdan,  STOP repeating dsosent make your question more inportant
[05:56] <nalioth> aitiba: you need libqt3-dev
[05:56] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany... does your CorePointer mouse point to /dev/mice or /dev/mouse0?
[05:56] <hamdan> ok but help me
[05:56] <headsroll> nalioth: do you mean to verify the cd?
[05:56] <Ep|phany> what do you mean tobi-wan
[05:56] <blackhat> Where is my GCC-3.4.5 located?
[05:56] <nalioth> hamdan: if nobody has the answer, nobody will answer you
[05:57] <clb_> why is there /initrd.img and /vmlinuz ... I built a new kernel but do I need to relink these to the new images?
[05:57] <nalioth> headsroll: make sure your cd is correct bit for bit
[05:57] <hamdan> ok bye
[05:57] <headsroll> nalioth: do you mean to verify the cd?
[05:57] <nalioth> blackhat: /usr/bin/
[05:57] <aitiba> nalioth, I dont have libqt3-dev in my repositorys what can I do?
[05:57] <clb_> or is is enough I set the correct grub line?
[05:57] <nalioth> headsroll: that is what i mean
[05:57] <headsroll> nalioth: its fine . ive used it on 4 computers
[05:57] <blackhat> nalioth my 4.0.2 is located there
[05:57] <blackhat> I need my 3.4.5 version that my kernel is copiled with
[05:57] <nalioth> aitiba: if you dont have libqt3-dev in your repos, something is wrong
[05:57] <nalioth> !info libqt3-dev
[05:57] <gleizer> Yahooo... I see hi-res im my Ubuntu!
[05:57] <headsroll> nalioth: ive tried 3-4 different ubuntu and kubuntu disks
[05:58] <headsroll> i use k3b to burn
[05:58] <nalioth> holy moly aitiba hold one
[05:58] <Ep|phany> tobi-wan i dont understand
[05:58] <aitiba> !info libqt3-dev
[05:58] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: open up /var/X11/xorg.conf ... there should be a line describing the mouse... do you think you'll find it?
[05:58] <headsroll> nalioth:  any other linux distro i throw at it works, toshiba m45
[05:58] <blackhat> Where is GCC-3.4.5 located? The one that is used to compile our kernels.
[05:58] <Secreth`X> Food!
[05:58] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: it's like "Section "InputDevice" blabla mouse
[05:58] <Ep|phany> how do i open that threw terminal?
[05:58] <headsroll> nalioth:  i think maybe ill just try debian
[05:59] <aitiba> nalioth, in whic repository is libqt you know?
[05:59] <brenner> less /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:59] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: whatever you prefer, it's a simple text file, but only root can edit it (hopefully)
[05:59] <tobi-wan> hehe, brenner's right, that's easiest
[05:59] <stereo> hi, ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't change into real console... any suggestions?
[05:59] <Ep|phany> it says command not found
[05:59] <headsroll> nalioth: the only thing i can think of is using some boot options in the toshiba that might get the cdrom detected
[05:59] <hamdan> how i can connect to the wireless router
[05:59] <hamdan> ?
[06:00] <Ep|phany> in terminal when i go sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:00] <nalioth> aitiba: libqt3-mt-dev
[06:00] <Habbie> Ep|phany, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:00] <nalioth> headsroll: check the integrity of your cdrom
[06:00] <aitiba> nalioth, I install this libqt3-mt-dev?
[06:00] <nalioth> headsroll: you can do it from the installers advanced options
[06:00] <headsroll> ok
[06:00] <nalioth> aitiba: that is the libqt3 for breezy
[06:00] <headsroll> ill try that
[06:00] <hamdan> :( very bad support
[06:00] <nalioth> stereo: use ctrl-alt-f2
[06:00] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: brenner is correct, at first try to just "less /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[06:01] <tobi-wan> hamdan: think for a second
[06:01] <brenner> Habbie: he's not in X
[06:01] <nalioth> hamdan: we are all volunteers. if you wish to get "good" support, go pay canonical for some
[06:01] <headsroll> nalioth: ive got a few cdroms none work, but they work on all other machines
[06:01] <Ep|phany> tobi-wan i see the input devices thing
[06:01] <blank> I already asked at #cedega, but they're not responding, do any of you know this: when I install point2play, must I log into my transgaming account, it's just that I have no internet access where I'm installing it
[06:01] <tobi-wan> hamdan: you nag around and don't give people a break.... do you really expect to get help?
[06:01] <stereo> nalioth: ;) thanks... no.. i can't change out of X
[06:01] <remi> I have installed my wifi card IPN2220 with ndiswrapper (acer labtop) , it's recognized, I can scan my wifi network with # iwlist scanning , but I cant change any parameter of the card : nothing happen if I do : #sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid, or If I do # sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc ...... anyone knows how to do it work?  (sorry for my bad english i'm french ;)  )
[06:01] <German> Hello!!
[06:01] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: fine! does it say "/dev/mice" or "/dev/mouse0" ?
[06:01] <German> have a quiestion
[06:01] <aitiba> nalioth, I install libqt3-mt-dev and qt3-dev-tools good with those?
[06:02] <nalioth> aitiba: whatever the wiki says
[06:02] <blackhat> Where is the kernel located on the ubuntu system
[06:02] <German> can anyone help me pleas??
[06:02] <Ep|phany> it says this
[06:02] <Ep|phany> /dev/input/mice
[06:02] <tobi-wan> German: if you ask the question, may be....
[06:02] <Ethan> German, ask
[06:02] <gearry> I figured out that my acpi functions (well, at least sleep) are working, but they do not appear on my menu
[06:02] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: well.....
[06:02] <Ep|phany> should i change it to mouse0?
[06:02] <German> haha
[06:02] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: no, that's correct. what protocol is given?
[06:02] <German> ok
[06:02] <ancient> Anyone abmy to help in a sh shell set up samba
[06:02] <gearry> anybody know how I make them appear on the menu or logout screen?
[06:03] <Ep|phany> ImPS/2
[06:03] <blackhat> Where is the KERNEL located on the Ubuntu System, I've checked /usr/src and its not there.
[06:03] <stereo> nalioth: i loosed this ability during an update to breezy... somewhere in the past. until today i havent figured it out
[06:03] <Ep|phany> i also see the input device touchpad
[06:03] <German> I wna't t know why my Num Lock isn't on when i start Ubuntu
[06:03] <Habbie> blackhat, you can install kernel sources separately
[06:03] <Habbie> blackhat, but the kernel itself is in /boot
[06:03] <tobi-wan> gearry: there's an applet for it, i guess
[06:03] <blackhat> well when installing vmware it wants me to point the directory of my C header files matching my kernel.
[06:03] <blackhat> What should I do?>
[06:04] <nalioth> stereo: and an xterm or gnome-terminal wont do you ?
[06:04] <Ep|phany> tobi-wan what should i do
[06:04] <Shadowline> german: the easyest way to fix the numlock problem is to install numlock
[06:04] <Ethan> German, mine is off too
[06:04] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: what does the Protocol line say? ImPS/2?
[06:04] <nalioth> blackhat: install the headers
[06:04] <Ep|phany> yes
[06:04] <blackhat> apt-get install kernel-headers ?
[06:04] <tobi-wan> hm....
[06:04] <German> Ethan, sure, but I want it on
[06:04] <German> :)
[06:04] <aitiba> nalioth, this is my problem. In the archive that I download dont exist ./rt2500 directory
[06:04] <Shadowline> German: the easyest way to fix the numlock problem is to install numlock
[06:04] <stereo> nalioth: yes, they do... but would be nice to have back this little feature..
[06:04] <Shadowline> German: apt-get install numlock
[06:04] <German> Shadowline, intall numlock
[06:04] <brenner> numlockx rather
[06:05] <German> numlockx
[06:05] <brenner> and it requires some more fiddlign iirc
[06:05] <nalioth> aitiba: have a look in your rt2500 dir for the files the wiki wants you to work with
[06:05] <Hoxzer> APUA
[06:05] <DM|Can0n> Is anyone use nforce4 with nforce drivers in here ?
[06:05] <Hoxzer> :d en ymmrr swebitsin kysymyksi
[06:05] <blackhat> My kernel is 2.6.12-9 the latest header I can find is 2.6.11-9
[06:05] <Shadowline> brenner: I didn't have to fiddle with anything, I installed it and it worked
[06:05] <nalioth> Hoxzer: english please
[06:05] <Ep|phany> tobi-wan what now?
[06:05] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: Search the section "serverlayout" and look whether the ImPS/2 mouse is given as InputDevice
[06:05] <Hoxzer> SIAT
[06:06] <brenner> Shadowline: ok then, the steps i followed had some additional stuff to do, ah well
[06:06] <blackhat> nalioth it doesnt have the headers that match my kernel.
[06:06] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: please be patient, i've coding work to do, too ;-)
[06:06] <nalioth> blackhat: really?
[06:06] <nalioth> blackhat: what kernel is that?
[06:06] <Ep|phany> oh sorry tobi-wan
[06:06] <blackhat> 2.6.12-9
[06:06] <blackhat> latest headers I see are 2.6.11-9
[06:06] <aitiba> nalioth, I do with this direcotry /rt2500-1.1.0-b3/Utilitys
[06:06] <aitiba>  and ok but..
[06:06] <Rawplayer> re
[06:06] <Ep|phany> tobi-wan it is not given as input device
[06:06] <gearry> tobi-wan: I don't see an applet for that.  In my old hoary install it automagically appeard on my logout menu once i enable sleep
[06:06] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: no prob, i just wanted you not to wonder, if it takes
[06:06] <nalioth> blackhat: linux-kernel-headers
[06:06] <tobi-wan> longer
[06:06] <gearry> on breezy, no such luck
[06:06] <Ep|phany> np
[06:07] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: then add it, can you figure out how to?
[06:07] <Ep|phany> no
[06:07] <blackhat> Oh, hehe thanks
[06:07] <Ep|phany> i dont know very much about linux
[06:07] <headsroll> nalioth:  no cdrom detected, i guess im out of luck
[06:07] <tobi-wan> gearry: hmm... sorry, but then i am at a loss
[06:07] <Ep|phany> should i add where this is InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"
[06:07] <aitiba> nalioth, ... I dont find this 'Under System -> Administration you will find networking. '
[06:07] <nalioth> headsroll: something sounds funny, if other distro cds can use it
[06:08] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: ok, look at the identifier given in the section of the mouse. then add InputDevice "<name of the identifier>" in the serversection
[06:08] <dbrouwer> any ppc users in here?
[06:08] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: serverlayout, sorry
[06:08] <nalioth> dbrouwer: many of us, ask your question
[06:08] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: yeah, you got it right :-)
[06:08] <Ep|phany> k
[06:08] <Ep|phany> so i just put
[06:08] <nalioth> aitiba: what exactly are you running?
[06:08] <headsroll> nalioth: suse, fedora, knoppix, etc all load the cdrom
[06:08] <Ep|phany> Imps/2 where configure mouse is?
[06:08] <Ep|phany> *configured mouse
[06:08] <mok> hi all
[06:08] <tgotcr> hi
[06:09] <tgotcr> alguem fala portugues
[06:09] <nalioth> headsroll: which leads me to believe the cdrom has been burnt wrong
[06:09] <dbrouwer> i have a new powerbook 15 inch. because i am very busy and do not have time to install linux (want to install Gentoo) i want to use the ubuntu live cd at times (till i have time to install linux). However, ubuntu fails to detect my dvd-drive, any solutions to this?
[06:09] <tgotcr> everybody speaking portuguese?
[06:09] <nalioth> !br
[06:09] <B_166-ER-X> how do i delete a directory in a console ?  rm doesnt work
[06:09] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[06:09] <headsroll> nalioth: im thinking maybe to try some options like nopcmcia acpi=off etc
[06:09] <mok> i'm trying to install cedega 5 on amd64 ubuntu 5.10 .... i can't seem to be able to locate the 32 version of libXxf86vm.so.1 anywhere
[06:09] <tgotcr> #ubuntu-br
[06:10] <aitiba> nalioth, I enter on Utilities directory and the I do ' sudo qmake -o Makefile raconfig2500.pro' console dont say anything good?
[06:10] <headsroll> nalioth: ill try another cdrom just in case
[06:10] <nalioth> aitiba: i'm not looking over your shoulder, friend.
[06:10] <B_166-ER-X> how do i delete a dir ?
[06:10] <blackhat> nalioth even when its installed I still get an error now...
[06:10] <aitiba> nalioth, what do you need?
[06:10] <blackhat> Even if the module were to
[06:10] <blackhat> compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel
[06:11] <aitiba> information
[06:11] <nalioth> aitiba: hold on a minute
[06:11] <Ep|phany> tobi-wan its stilln ot working
[06:11] <dducko> B_166-ER-X, rm -r Directory
[06:11] <Nytryx> hello
[06:11] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: did you restart the x-server?
[06:11] <dducko> Hi
[06:12] <mok> hi
[06:12] <Nytryx> anyone run xubuntu
[06:12] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[06:12] <nalioth> aitiba: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[06:12] <nalioth> Nytryx: just ask your question, please
[06:12] <Nytryx> i need help installing the xbutunu-desktop
[06:12] <aitiba> nalioth, this how to is for kubuntu no?
[06:12] <Ep|phany> no
[06:12] <nalioth> Nytryx: just use synaptic and install xubuntu-desktop
[06:12] <Ep|phany> how do i do that
[06:12] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: you were correct when you said to add InputDevice "Configured Mouse" in the ServerLayout
[06:12] <Nytryx> when i runt the sudo apt get
[06:12] <nalioth> aitiba: it's for you and i to talk quietly
[06:12] <B_166-ER-X> in UTF8 how do i do the 'little wave thing'
[06:12] <Ep|phany> oh that was defualt though
[06:13] <blackhat> I installed the linux-headers, and when I try to install VMWARE it says even though the module were to compiled successfully, it would not load into the running kernel..........
[06:13] <Nytryx> how nalioth
[06:13] <Ep|phany> and it wasnt working like that
[06:13] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: what did you add?
[06:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Nytryx about synaptic
[06:13] <Ep|phany> i tried Imps/2
[06:13] <mok> blackhat, you need to visit vmware forums ... they have a patch over there
[06:13] <Ep|phany> stilldidnt work
[06:13] <German> thank you guys, my numlock is now on!!!
[06:13] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: instead of what?
[06:13] <blackhat> I have there patch..
[06:13] <mok> blackhat it is related to the .12 kernel .... i think 5.5 beta has the patch included
[06:13] <blackhat> mok; how can I tell what kernel I am running, whats the command
[06:13] <mok> uname -a
[06:13] <Ep|phany> configured mouse
[06:14] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: you said InputDevice "Configured Mouse" was _not_ in ServerLayout
[06:14] <blackhat> k, I found the problem.
[06:14] <blackhat> thanks
[06:14] <mok> np
[06:14] <moquist> last night I set up a friend's machine using the Debian floppy-based net install, and then I switched the sources.list to breezy, did a dist-upgrade, and installed ubuntu-desktop.  Everything is working fine except that the sudo applications don't ask for his password, they just silently fail.  How can I get all those apps to sudo properly?
[06:14] <Nytryx> ok i installed it as a server to run the xfce desktop so the package manager is'nt there
[06:14] <tobi-wan> Ep|phany: so please add it there and do and /etc/init.d/gdm restart , that should work (hopefully)
[06:14] <tobi-wan> with your mouse connected, of course
[06:14] <mok> honestly, anyone got any experience with dri and amd64?
[06:14] <Ep|phany> tobi-wan Configured Mouse was in serverlayout
[06:14] <tobi-wan> btw: if it's a PS/2 mouse, it's possible that the mouse has to be connected at boot-time, ok?
[06:14] <headsroll> nalioth: the ubuntu live cd does not work either
[06:15] <tobi-wan> could that be the problem?
[06:15] <nalioth> Nytryx: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:15] <Ep|phany> ok
[06:15] <Ep|phany> thanks
[06:15] <nalioth> headsroll: that is VERY strange
[06:15] <coax> Hey... I need to make my mailserver (postfix) to mail as domain:gmail.com, is'nt there a file where i have to set that domain for my user??
[06:15] <Nytryx> i do that and it says that it cant find the package
[06:15] <headsroll> ive got one more kubuntu 5.10 ill try
[06:16] <Nytryx> nalioth?
[06:16] <Nytryx> its says E: could'nt find package
[06:17] <nalioth> Nytryx: are you running breezy?
[06:17] <Nytryx> horay
[06:17] <headsroll> nalioth: nope, it loads to the point where it detects cdrom and wants to load drivers from floppy
[06:17] <Secreth`X> Back!
[06:17] <blackhat> http://pastebin.com/425661, (help with VMware installation) not too big of a problem.
[06:18] <nalioth> headsroll: you have bad media
[06:18] <headsroll> nalioth: its a toshiba satellite m45,
[06:18] <Nytryx> nalioth any ideas?
[06:18] <headsroll> nalioth:  im going to put debian on it instead
[06:18] <nalioth> headsroll: enjoy
[06:19] <headsroll> nalioth: thanks
[06:19] <Dreadnought> some one tell me how to get the mp3 plugin
[06:19] <olicat> with svn, how do i commit something ifi get file.txt remains ini conflict?
[06:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Dreadnought about mp3
[06:19] <jaxr> sorry for a retarded question, but i installed gtk+ 2.0 examples with synaptic package manager and i cant find them.. where are they?
[06:19] <Dreadnought> thanks
[06:20] <brenner> jaxr: list the packages contents
[06:20] <brenner> right-clcik > properties > installed files
[06:20] <blank> in gnome, how can I find the menu editor
[06:20] <blank> the start menu editor
[06:20] <jaxr> ahh, great! thanks guys
[06:20] <brenner> start menu? :)
[06:20] <nalioth> blank: right click on the menu
[06:20] <gypsymauro> hello
[06:21] <nalioth> brenner: he means alacarte (formerly known as smeg)
[06:21] <brenner> blank: you need smeg, it's installed by default in breezy
[06:21] <blank> smeg?
[06:21] <Nytryx> nalioth?
[06:21] <jaxr> yeah, i have smeg installed.. i have hoary tho
[06:21] <Nytryx> ok anyone know how to install the xbutunu-desktop in horay?
[06:22] <brenner> nalioth: i know.  about the renaming too.  i was amused by something else, nvm.
[06:22] <blank> I want to delete some menu entries, but I cant seem to know how
[06:22] <nalioth> Nytryx: yes?
[06:22] <gypsymauro> I've created an iso apt-cdrom addable with the full italian localization, acrobat reader, skype, realplayer, some games and educational software (600 MB of iso) but I've not a place where to publish it..someone interested?
[06:22] <brenner> jaxr: so run it from a terminal
[06:22] <Nytryx> ive followed the instructions but its telling me that the package can be found
[06:22] <brenner> whoops
[06:22] <Nytryx> nalioth any other ideas
[06:22] <brenner> jaxr: sorry, wrong person
[06:23] <brenner> blank: what don't you get?
[06:23] <rob^^^> Where is the wiki's RecentChanges RSS feed?
[06:23] <nalioth> Nytryx: xubuntu-desktop doesnt exist on hoary, install xfce4 things instead
[06:23] <mmanns5860> blank, all entries are installed applications, so when you delete them, you have to start these apps. in bash
[06:23] <Nytryx> how?
[06:23] <nalioth> Nytryx: apt-cache search xfce4 to find all the pkgs you need to install
[06:24] <Dreadnought> uh it wont let me onto synaptic
[06:24] <blank> im done
[06:24] <coax> Hey... I need to make my mailserver (postfix), mail as domain:gmail.com, is'nt there a file where i have to set that domain for my user??
[06:24] <Ethan> I don't know if I can use synaptic to install t, and if so how...
[06:25] <brenner> Nytryx: you can make do with just the xfce4 package, then choose xfce from the sessions menu in gdm when you next login
[06:25] <Ethan> I have downloaded a *.deb, how can I install it cleanly?
[06:25] <Nytryx> im in consol mode
[06:25] <Secreth`X> Someone know where to find a driver for the nvidia Geforce MX 440?
[06:25] <brenner> Ethan: what is it?
[06:25] <Ethan> It is the newest ver sion of luxbox
[06:25] <MarcN> Ethan: usually you download a deb by way of synaptic or apt-get etc.
[06:25] <Ethan> I got fluxbox already installed
[06:26] <brenner> ubotu: tell Secreth`X about nvidia
[06:26] <Secreth`X> thx
[06:26] <brenner> luxbox? is that a typo?
[06:26] <Nytryx> ok so how do i install packages from console?
[06:27] <brenner> apt-get install <package>
[06:27] <Xenguy> Nytryx: sudo apt-get install packagename
[06:27] <dataangel> Nytryx: Or if you already have a .deb file, dpkg -i yourdebhere.deb
[06:27] <brenner> or use aptitude
[06:27] <nalioth> Nytryx: i told you how to
[06:27] <dataangel> Nytryx: Or rather: sudo dpkg -i yourdebhere.deb
[06:28] <brenner> word of warning: use the repo packages whenever possible
[06:28] <david-4l1da> 11
[06:28] <Ethan> er... and If I don't want? How can I use out-package?
[06:29] <Nytryx> ok so the instructions on the site are for breezy to xubutnu right?
[06:30] <Ethan> what is Brezzy?
[06:30] <Nytryx> breezy badger
[06:30] <nalioth> Nytryx: xubuntu-desktop only exists in breezy, yes
[06:30] <david-4l1da> Hi after upgrade from Hoary to Breezy I have small problem. somebodi can help
[06:30] <nalioth> Nytryx: but you can install the same pkgs on hoary
[06:30] <Nytryx> ok then im downloading breezy
[06:31] <nalioth> david-4l1da: ask your question
[06:31] <traaks> david-4l1da: what's hte prob
[06:31] <foampeace> hi
[06:31] <foampeace> how bout this as an idea
[06:31] <Nytryx> nalioth how?
[06:31] <brenner> ubotu: tell Ethan about dpkg
[06:31] <david-4l1da> at log-in, i get the default Gnome login & message that my "configuration file contains an invalid command line" which I should please fix.
[06:31] <CzarAlex> What are some interesting things I can install on my ubuntu box that functions as a web server? I have a website on it, webadmin, phpbb, and a webbased PIM. What else could I tinker with?
[06:31] <brenner> Ethan: but, you're trying to upgrade fluxbox to the latest version?  it might cause breakage doing it that way
[06:31] <traaks> david-4l1da: can u post the full error pls
[06:31] <nalioth> Nytryx: i will say it again. "apt-cache search xfce4"  use the results from the search to put into "sudo apt-get install pkg1 pkg2" etc
[06:31] <Xenguy> Nytryx: for more information BTW:
[06:32] <Ethan> brenner, uh? breakage?
[06:32] <Xenguy> Nytryx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo
[06:33] <Secreth`X> ubotu, tell me about nvidia
[06:33] <blank> tell ubotu to tell me about restricted formats
[06:34] <foampeace> how bout a drag and drop python script so you can drop a file somewhere and itll automatically send it to your email address
[06:34] <nalioth> blank: if you register your nick, you can talk to ubotu all you like
[06:34] <david-4l1da> After this I can login with my user and pass. But after testart I have this message again "configuration file contains an invalid command line" which I should please fix.
[06:34] <Secreth`X> darn
[06:34] <Secreth`X> forget something
[06:34] <Secreth`X> brb again
[06:35] <blank> But I like this nick :'( ant it's already taken...IM THE REAL BLANK, I had blanksite.net, codeblank.net, IM THE REAL BLANK *crying*
[06:35] <philip_> i cant get my scanner to work with ubuntu...
[06:35] <philip_> can anyone lend a hand?
[06:35] <Ethan> why this is bad to use apt-get in su instead of sudo?
[06:35] <tucoz> I get a GPG error when running apt-get update
[06:35] <traaks> david-4l1da: probably some problem with your gdm.conf file. unless you know the error can't do much to fix it
[06:35] <brenner> ubotu: tell tucoz about gpgerr
[06:35] <Agrajag> Ethan: it's not, it doesn't matter
[06:35] <trappist> philip_: please phrase your question in this format: "I'm trying to ______.  I've tried ____ and ____ but when I _____, ______ happens."
[06:36] <Ethan> Agrajag, someone tolde me it was.... ok, fine :D
[06:36] <tucoz> brenner, thanks
[06:36] <Agrajag> either way, you're running the same program as root
[06:36] <snausages> hey all, i can't remember which files i can edit and change the colors of a theme, like say the titlebar color and such
[06:36] <philip_> im trying to get an epson 4180 scanner to work with ubuntu.  Ive tried using xsane but i get an error saying...
[06:36] <Agrajag> but you don't need a root password, and most people should really just use sudo
[06:37] <philip_> o
[06:37] <philip_> no it just creashes actually
[06:37] <philip_> and dissapears
[06:37] <philip_> ive also tried using iscan
[06:38] <philip_> that crashes with the error could not send command to scanner
[06:38] <Nytryx> ok so how do i pause the list of search results so i can see the pagkage name?
[06:38] <Xenguy> Nytryx: | less
[06:38] <Xenguy> Nytryx: append
[06:38] <trappist> philip_: what does sane-find-scanner say
[06:38] <Xenguy> that
[06:39] <blackhat> !limewire
[06:39] <ubotu> somebody said limewire was first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[06:39] <philip_> found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON] , product=0x0118 [EPSON Scanner] ) at libusb:003:002
[06:39] <Nytryx> huh add that to apt-cache search xfce4?
[06:39] <Xenguy> Nytryx: a.k.a. 'pipe to less'
[06:39] <Xenguy> Nytryx: yes
[06:39] <blackhat> !java
[06:39] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[06:39] <philip_> !java
[06:39] <Nytryx> how?
[06:39] <sylwae> someone use mythtv ?
[06:39] <Xenguy> hyphenated: apt-cache search xfce4 | less
[06:39] <philip_> !javadeb
[06:39] <ubotu> philip_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[06:39] <Xenguy> hyphenated: sorry that was for Nytryx
[06:40] <Amaranth> i think ubotu lost it's memory
[06:40] <Amaranth> or the deb isn't available anymore
[06:40] <PJeremy> what does fmask 0111 mean?
[06:40] <Xenguy> Nytryx: you use pipes (|) to chain different commands together on the command line
[06:40] <philip_> anyone?
[06:40] <trappist> philip_: in /etc/sane.d/epson.conf try 'usb 0x0118'
[06:40] <|rt|> last night i installed my first ubuntu box on my laptop....very impressed so far with ubuntu
[06:40] <dell500> does fglrx support dual monitors?
[06:40] <trappist> philip_: or, usb 0x04b8 0x0118
[06:40] <gimmulf> Maybe a little off topic but is "A activated account within minutes" correct english?
[06:40] <trappist> dell500: yes
[06:41] <|rt|> coming from using gentoo for the past couple of years
[06:41] <loki> !ati
[06:41] <ubotu> somebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[06:41] <philip_> nope :(
[06:41] <nalioth> Amaranth: gremlins have been changing things  !javadebs
[06:41] <holy_cow> *blink*
[06:41] <loki> thanks ubotu
[06:41] <holy_cow> qtparted can format hds in ntfs that win installer likes
[06:41] <holy_cow> yet formatting the same hd via win2k results in a partition win cd doesn't like
[06:41] <philip_> ah
[06:41] <Xenguy> Nytryx: see also:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[06:41] <holy_cow> oh the irony
[06:42] <Amaranth> nalioth: fixed
[06:42] <philip_> now i get :
[06:42] <philip_> falied to start scanner: invalid argument
[06:42] <ditesh|cassini> hi, i'm a new user to ubuntu's apt-get system. i have php4.4 installed but due to certain b/c breakage in 4.4, i need to roll back to 4.3 or earlier version. is this possible with apt-get?
[06:42] <Seveas> ditesh|cassini, no
[06:42] <philip_> but i do get a choice of two scanners
[06:42] <trappist> ditesh|cassini: if it's available in the repository
[06:43] <Xenguy> PJeremy: did you mean umask?
[06:43] <loki> !ati breezy
[06:43] <ubotu> loki: I haven't a clue
[06:43] <Seveas> (well, with apt-get it is possible, but the package is no longer there)
[06:43] <loki> !atibreezy
[06:43] <ubotu> Not a clue, loki
[06:43] <ditesh|cassini> hmm ok.
[06:43] <PJeremy> Xenguy: no, i meant what i typed. read it on the ubuntu wiki on how to mount fat/ntfs
[06:43] <loki> !ati drivers
[06:43] <ubotu> loki: Are you on ritalin?
[06:43] <ditesh|cassini> i'll check if the package is available.
[06:43] <Seveas> loki, stop experimenting
[06:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell loki about ati
[06:43] <Xenguy> PJeremy: OK, I'm thinking of something different then
[06:44] <Seveas> you can also just ask the *people* in here
[06:44] <nalioth> loki: if you ask a question, you'll get a response
[06:44] <loki> the bot is faster :)
[06:44] <PJeremy> Xenguy: since breezy apparently automounts fat32, i'm wondering if i can just edit to rw access or not
[06:44] <blackhat> !limewire
[06:44] <Seveas> not if you ask bugus things and annoy the people
[06:44] <ubotu> I heard limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[06:44] <loki> anyone know where the current breezy ATI install guied is :) TIA
[06:44] <axel> hello people
[06:44] <PJeremy> Xenguy: that's why i looked at the wiki..
[06:45] <dataangel> Go to the ubuntu forums and get Automatrix if you want limewire, it'll install it for you
[06:45] <Xenguy> PJeremy: dunno - good luck
[06:45] <nalioth> loki: if you register your nick, you can /pm ubotu and chat away
[06:45] <Seveas> loki, same as always, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDrivers
[06:45] <nalioth> dataangel: please dont recommend "easy scripts"
[06:45] <axel> loki: u mean for 3d/opengl ?
[06:45] <dataangel> nalioth: Why?
[06:45] <cayax> Hello to all
[06:45] <traaks> cayax: hi
[06:45] <cayax> Somebody that Speak Spanish?
[06:45] <nalioth> dataangel: because some of them are downright dangerous to use
[06:45] <loki> for hardware excellleration for 9800 pro
[06:45] <trappist> !es
[06:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:45] <nalioth> !es
[06:46] <cayax> ok
[06:46] <cayax> gracias
[06:46] <axel> loki: are u running on x86 or amd64 ?
[06:46] <philip_> the  usb 0x04b8 0x0118 works
[06:46] <philip_> but i get that error when i scan
[06:46] <DM|Can0n> Is anyone using NForce4 with a 5.1 speaker system in here ?
[06:46] <dataangel> nalioth: Automatrix has its own forum on ubuntuforums.org along with a bunch of users, and it didn't bork my system.
[06:46] <Secreth`X> Yay. Got wolfenstein ET working. Only no sounds :(
[06:46] <trappist> philip_: what error?
[06:46] <loki> x86
[06:46] <PJeremy> Seveas: can i just edit /etc/fstab for a fat32 to be rw with umask=000 or how is it being handled in breezy?
[06:46] <philip_> falied to start scanner: invalid argument
[06:47] <Seveas> dataangel, the concept of such scripts is broken beyond repair
[06:47] <trappist> philip_: oh, I used to get that.  maybe I can remember why.
[06:47] <trappist> philip_: try running xsane as root
[06:47] <philip_> ok
[06:47] <dataangel> Seveas: linux packaging in general isn't much better
[06:47] <dell500> anyone know if this how-to is legit, it asks to remove linux-restricted-modules from apt-get
[06:47] <nalioth> dataangel: your's is not the only system. it can work fine for you and break the corners of someone elses
[06:47] <dell500> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78466
[06:47] <trappist> I think it's a version mismatch between frontends and backends
[06:47] <Seveas> dataangel, complete bullshit
[06:47] <trappist> inherited from debian
[06:47] <dataangel> Seveas: it serves the purpose of providing an easier way to install stuff the ubuntu team doesn't package
[06:48] <philip_> same error again :(
[06:48] <axel> loki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI the Hoary Hedgehog config steps worked fine for me on Breezy
[06:48] <Seveas> dataangel, it is a piece of crap that *overwrites* config files and other stuff
[06:48] <|rt|_> ugh....my internet connect just dropped....did anyone answer or see my question?
[06:48] <loki> thanks axel :)
[06:48] <trappist> philip_: see if scanimage works on the command line
[06:48] <axel> loki, ur welcome
[06:48] <nalioth> dataangel: some of those scripts use --force-all options, for petes sake
[06:48] <blank> what can I use to play wmv files
[06:48] <loki> :D
[06:49] <trappist> blank: mplayer
[06:49] <PJeremy> blank: mplayer for example..
[06:49] <blank> any others?
[06:49] <traaks> blank: vlc
[06:50] <philip_> scanimage -L gives me
[06:50] <philip_> device `v4l:/dev/video0' is a Noname ASUS TV-FM 7134 virtual device
[06:50] <philip_> device `epson:libusb:003:002' is a Epson  flatbed scanner
[06:50] <dataangel> Seveas: True, but I wasn't just spouting bullshit. I was thinking of other ways packaging is broken (ABI complications, cross-distro packages being impossible, difficulty installing into home folder, etc.)
[06:50] <axel> Help, i get a "C compiler cannot create executables" error when i do a ./configure, do i need anything more in addition to gcc ??
[06:50] <trappist> blank: xine, totem... there are lots of media players for linux
[06:50] <jgw> blank, you're still in here asking how to play wmv files? you've been here since yesterday afternoon asking that, and people have told you over and over
[06:50] <blackhat> is there anyway to resize NTFS partitions in linu
[06:50] <trappist> axel: a lot of things can cause that
[06:51] <traaks> axel: look in config.log
[06:51] <trappist> axel: if you're on a filesystem mounted noexec, if you have invalid stuff in your CC or CFLAGS environment variables, et.c
[06:51] <|rt|_> blackhat: yes but you need to defrag your ntfs valume first
[06:51] <traaks> axel: might give u more info on what's wrong
[06:51] <blackhat> Well I would resize to make it bigger (it wouldn't matter).
[06:51] <u1sun> hi, anyone know how to install ffmpeg2theora properly
[06:51] <gil> is it true that the next ubuntu release will be kde?
[06:51] <philip_> hope not
[06:51] <dataangel> gil: No
[06:51] <|rt|_> blackhat: qtparted or gparted should then be able to resize the filesystem
[06:52] <philip_> anyone got any ideas?
[06:52] <blackhat> I tried qtparted and it said it doesnt support ntfs.
[06:52] <gil> I heard that shuttleworth exclusively uses kubuntu now, and that Dapper Drake will be kde
[06:52] <dataangel> gil: They just said Kubuntu is going to be upped to the same status as Ubuntu
[06:52] <dataangel> gil: Shuttleworth runs it now as his desktop
[06:52] <dataangel> gil: But ubuntu will continue
[06:52] <gil> interesting
[06:52] <nalioth> |rt|_: qtparted is the only one that can resize ntfs
[06:52] <gil> I wonder if Ubuntu will still have shoddy automounting
[06:52] <trappist> philip_: see if you can actually scan with scanimage
[06:53] <axel> trappist: i did a default breezy install, is it noexec ?
[06:53] <dataangel> gil: The automounting is shoddier in Kubuntu at the moment. It's borked.
[06:53] <antipode> how do you install a /home/u1sun/multimedia/ffmpeg2theora-1.15.linux.bin
[06:53] <antipode> ?
[06:53] <nalioth> blackhat: qtparted DOES support ntfs, it's the only graphical partitioner that does
[06:53] <jgw> blackhat: the trial version of partitionmagic may do the trick. i've never had good luck writing/modifying ntfs from linux, to date
[06:53] <trappist> axel: probably not
[06:53] <dataangel> gil: The automounting in ubuntu works fine for me except for ejecting my ipod.
[06:53] <gil> dataangel they *really* shouldn't be using fstab for removable media
[06:53] <trappist> axel: echo $CC $CFLAGS
[06:53] <jgw> blackhat: reading? yes, works great, but
[06:53] <blank> jgw:...no....
[06:53] <geovane> hi for all
[06:53] <jgw> blank: no what?
[06:53] <philip_> oh...
[06:53] <dataangel> gil: Err, well, I was only thinking as far as whether it appears to work ;)
[06:53] <philip_> :p
[06:54] <blackhat> I need to resize a NTFS Partition in linux, I tried qtparted it said its not yet supported ntfs
[06:54] <|rt|_> nalioth: ah...well doesn't it just use ntfs_resize to do that
[06:54] <gil> datangel that's where the problems stem from - udev/hal are supposed to manage removable stuff rather than fstab )
[06:54] <jgw> dataangel in seattle?
[06:54] <|rt|_> blackhat: i believe there is a command line tool to do it if qtparted is refusing to do it
[06:54] <dataangel> jgw: Err, no. Why would I be? :P
[06:54] <nalioth> |rt|_: correct, qtparted uses ntfstools
[06:54] <loki> ok thank re-booting :)
[06:54] <trappist> blackhat: ntfsresize is part oftools and/or ntfsprogs
[06:54] <blackhat> =/
[06:55] <jgw> dataangel: ah you must be a diff dataangel ;) sorry
[06:55] <dataangel> jgw: Ah. np :)
[06:55] <trappist> blackhat: ntfsprogs
[06:55] <blackhat> ok, trappist thanks
[06:55] <philip_> i cant seem to get the device name :(
[06:55] <blackhat> Ahh its by command line
[06:55] <trappist> philip_: try unplugging your webcam
[06:55] <spencerk> hello #ubuntu, i've installed jack and ive installed alsa, when i try to run jackd -R -p 512  -d alsa
[06:55] <spencerk> , it says "unknown driver 'alsa' ". any ideas?
[06:55] <Secreth`X> Is there a driver for soundblaster live ?
[06:55] <philip_> webcam??
[06:55] <trappist> Secreth`X: yes
[06:55] <|rt|_> is there a document that explains the ubuntu init/rc system?
[06:55] <Secreth`X> trappist, where can I get it?
[06:56] <trappist> philip_: or whatever that other device is.  the v4l one.
[06:56] <|rt|_> trying to figure out how it works and i'm used to the gentoo system for that
[06:56] <trappist> Secreth`X: it's part of the kernel.  modprobe emu10k1
[06:56] <philip_> i dont have anything plugged in that might be that device
[06:56] <Secreth`X> so you say it's already in here?
[06:56] <trappist> yes
[06:56] <Secreth`X> then why doesnt it work?
[06:57] <trappist> philip_: oh, it looks like maybe a tv tuner card
[06:57] <blackhat> Can someone help me with resizing my ntfs partition =/
[06:57] <philip_> oh...
[06:57] <Secreth`X> ubotu, tell blackhat about ntfsresize
[06:57] <philip_> cant really unplug that
[06:57] <nalioth> blackhat: qtparted or ntfsprogs
[06:57] <jgw> blackhat: try partitionmagic trial ed?
[06:57] <nalioth> Secreth`X: c'mon man, he aint omniscient
[06:58] <jgw> or qtparted or ntfsprogs ;)
[06:58] <blackhat> they have one for linux?
[06:58] <axel> trappist,traaks: the configlog shows "failed program: confdefs.h" , i dont know what this is , do u ?
[06:58] <Secreth`X> nalioth, what? :S
[06:58] <jgw> blackhat: it is/was a boot floppy/cd
[06:58] <spencerk> blackhat, apt-get install ntfsprogs
[06:58] <blackhat> oh.
[06:58] <jgw> its "own os"
[06:58] <jgw> you boot off it, make your changes, and take the floppy/cd out
[06:58] <traaks> axel: need a few more lines of context before and after this line
[06:58] <jerem51> bonjour a tous
[06:58] <jgw> http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/
[06:59] <trappist> philip_: I had this problem at home and I can't remember how I solved it
[06:59] <jgw> ^^ ntfsprogs website, seems theyve made huge progress
[06:59] <dpupp> how do i specify the wep key to be used into ubuntu 5.10 ?
[06:59] <Mabus06> hey uh... I was playing a game, and when i exited the screen is now waaay too large
[06:59] <Mabus06> how do I change this
[06:59] <dell500> i'm trying to install the new fglrx/ati driver right now, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78466 tells me to run the command 'sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'... this doesn't seem very wise to me for some reason...
[06:59] <trappist> Mabus06: try ctrl-alt-numpad-
[06:59] <antipode> anyone know how to install a ffmpeg2theora=0.15 file?
[06:59] <dataangel> Mabus06: It didn't change your resolution back. System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[06:59] <jerem51> quelqu'un sait il quel est le serveur ubutnu fr
[06:59] <erUSUL> !tell jerem51 about fr
[07:00] <traaks> axel: can u send me the config.log file
[07:00] <ddc> dell500 this is all ok
[07:00] <Mabus06> ty dataangel
[07:00] <antipode> its ffmpeg2theora-0.15.linux.bin.bz2 file
[07:00] <ddc> just did this some ours ago
[07:00] <spencerk> anyone got some help for my jack-alsa problem?
[07:00] <jgw> dell: i dont know the "right" way, but i just apt-get installed the fglrx drivers and did nothing else and it worked fine
[07:00] <dell500> ddc, why do i need to do that step though? to reload the modules?
[07:00] <dell500> ddc, did you get 3d accel to work?
[07:00] <N1omi> can someone let me know what the command is to reconfigure the time settings in BASH?
[07:00] <ddc> the uname -r will be replaced with your current kernel version
[07:00] <jgw> dell: i had to install fglrx drivers because opengl was crashing my machine
[07:00] <dell500> ddc, i have a 9600xt
[07:00] <blank> some windows I have are freezing and I cant close them, how can I 'kill' them
[07:00] <axel> traaks, ok im sending
[07:00] <jgw> dell: 3d accel works on my 9200 ati card now
[07:01] <jgw> blank: what vid card?
[07:01] <Xenguy> blank: if you know 'top', you can kill processes with that tool
[07:01] <|rt|> N1omi: you need to set the system clock?
[07:01] <dpupp> anyone know how i can  specify the wep key to be used into ubuntu 5.10 ?
[07:01] <spencerk> can anyone see me?
[07:01] <|rt|> N1omi: date is the command to see the current time and set it
[07:01] <ddc> I have a X300 card and I can play tuxracer :D
[07:01] <Xenguy> blank: otherwise you can do command-line: ps aux |grep applicationname
[07:01] <eric> is there a way to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 with apt-get or anything?
[07:01] <blackhat> With ntfsresizer you cant make partitions bigger?
[07:02] <blackhat> ERROR: New size can't be bigger than the device size.
[07:02] <blackhat> If you want to enlarge NTFS then first enlarge the device size by e.g. fdisk.
[07:02] <Xenguy> blank: that will give you the 'PID', and then you just 'kill -9 PID'
[07:02] <Aven> help
[07:02] <nalioth> spencerk: are you sitting in your underwear?
[07:02] <ddc> can someone help me, I'm trying to recompile my kernel but i keerp getting this error Inconsistent kallsyms data
[07:02] <ddc> Try setting CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS
[07:02] <Aven> how do I add a mysql database?
[07:02] <Aven> command?
[07:02] <erUSUL> eric, yes
[07:02] <tobi-wan[away] > aven: create database
[07:02] <eric> erUSUL, how?
[07:03] <Aven> tobi-wan[away] : create database name-of-database
[07:03] <Aven> that's it? :P
[07:03] <blank> wait, what? top?
[07:03] <N1omi> |rt|, is there an apt-get or dpkg that downloads something related to the time/date config, reinstalls and/or reset to default?
[07:03] <erUSUL> eric, change in sources.list breezy for hoary and do a apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:03] <axel> traaks, dcc send timed out ?
[07:04] <|rt|> N1omi: I don't know I just installed Ubuntu for the first time last night
[07:04] <erUSUL> eric, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:04] <Aven> help :(
[07:04] <eric> ty
[07:04] <|rt|> N1omi: by default Ubuntu uses NTP to set the system time
[07:04] <philip_> help :(
[07:04] <blank> okay so first what command to find the pid, then kill what
[07:04] <dell500> what is kernal framebuffer device interface?
[07:05] <traaks> dell500: /dev/fb0
[07:05] <Xenguy> blank: scroll up, dude :-)
[07:05] <|rt|> N1omi: to set the system timezone by hand you normally have to make a symbolic link /etc/localtime to the timezone you are in
[07:05] <dpupp> is it possible to change the wep encryption key via terminal?
[07:05] <Xenguy> blank: or do '/last Xenguy'
[07:05] <frogzoo> blank: ps aux |grep {app name}
[07:05] <|rt|> N1omi: but I'm not sure if that's true un ubutnu
[07:05] <|rt|> N1omi: un = in
[07:05] <antipode> hello, does anyone know how to install a ffmpeg2theora-0.15.linux.bin?
[07:05] <erUSUL> dell500, is an interface for the videocard
[07:05] <dell500> traaks, what does it do?
[07:05] <dell500> should it be enabled?
[07:06] <blank> the PID is the second number, or which
[07:06] <blank> yeah, and then it gives me all these numbers, which ones is the PID
[07:06] <traaks> dell500: the framebuffer device gives you certain 'graphics' capabilitis within console mode.. that's what makes the 'tux' logo appear when the system is booting
[07:06] <Xenguy> blank: far left column
[07:07] <blank> okay
[07:07] <ddc> anyone knows of some problems compilling kallsyms.c on ubuntu 5.10 with kernel 2.6.12-9-386
[07:07] <traaks> dell500: no it's not essential, just cool to have it :)
[07:07] <dell500> so it would be neat to enable it :)
[07:07] <dell500> lol
[07:07] <traaks> ddc: tried make clean; make ?
[07:07] <Xenguy> blank: e.g. ps aux |grep irssi
[07:07] <blank> there we go :D
[07:07] <dell500> what things can  you do with it?
[07:07] <dell500> besides the logo
[07:07] <blank> for some reason I cnat play wmv files
[07:07] <N1omi> |rt|, un doesn't appear to work in ubuntu :/ thanks for the help though. my system clock is off, but i have to set it in UTC, i think
[07:07] <blank> even with totem, vlc, mplayer...etc.
[07:07] <ddc> traaks: not yet I'll give it a try
[07:07] <Xenguy> blank: memorize that method, it will come in handy :-)
[07:07] <dell500> wmv you need windows codecs installed for it to work
[07:08] <frogzoo> how do I adjust the image displayed while Ubuntu is booting? the image is the wrong res & screenwraps
[07:08] <N1omi> blank, did you install proprietary formats?
[07:08] <blackhat> in my fstab this mounts my ntfs device, /dev/hdc1       /media/crap     ntfs    user,umask=0222 0 0, I had to unmount it to resize it but now I want to mount it again and I don't want to reboot, whats the command?
[07:08] <traaks> dell500: no idea sorry
[07:08] <nalioth> blackhat: sudo mount /dev/hdc1
[07:08] <blackhat> Thanks ;-)
[07:08] <axel> traaks, i cant cant manage to send u the file dunno why
[07:08] <frogzoo> blackhat: mount /media/crap
[07:08] <ompaul> nalioth,
[07:08] <sunshine82> i need to uninstall a file that in my home folder this file isn not in sypatic
[07:08] <blank> Nlomi: how?
[07:09] <nalioth> ompaul: ?
[07:09] <xinsi> how could I manage my boot service?
[07:09] <x86i> xinsi: Download BUM
[07:09] <blank> this is messed up
[07:09] <frogzoo> xinsi: install "bum"
[07:09] <traaks> axel: sorry can't help.. try going thru the config.log yourself and see if u can figure out any errors before the confdefs error
[07:09] <blank> when I'm in linux, my eject button on my drives dont work, I need to right click the mounted drive and click eject :(
[07:09] <jgw> blank: what is?
[07:09] <ompaul> nalioth, doh!
[07:09] <xinsi> install bum?
[07:09] <patrick_> hi all
[07:09] <x86i> blank: thats normal. thats called locking the drive.
[07:09] <Xenguy> xinsi: apt-get install bum
[07:10] <blank> nalioth: how do i install proprietary formats
[07:10] <sunny_boy> What's the default root password?
[07:10] <blank> x86i, how cna I unlock the drive
[07:10] <ompaul> xinsi, bum = boot up manager
[07:10] <blank> nothing
[07:10] <frogzoo> blank: you have to unmount the drive first - then the eject button will work
[07:10] <patrick_> can someone help me to install crossoveroffice ?
[07:10] <axel> traaks: well the only error is a couple lines before its says it didnt find usr/bin/ld directory
[07:10] <xinsi> thank you
[07:10] <x86i> sunny_boy: the root password is randomly generated.
[07:10] <blank> ah, okay
[07:10] <blank> lol
[07:10] <ompaul> x86i, wrong
[07:10] <sunny_boy> x86i - how can i change it?
[07:11] <Xenguy> !tell sunny_boy about root
[07:11] <Mabus06> How come everyone says there is no root password, but I remember setting the root password?
[07:11] <sunny_boy> lovely. thanks.
[07:11] <traaks> axel: you probably need the binutils package.. sudo apt-get install binutils
[07:11] <patrick_> apt-get install crossover-pro_4.2-2_i386  , don't work ??
[07:11] <axel> traaks: or the usr/bin/ld: ctrl.o file
[07:11] <Xenguy> !tell Mabus06 about root
[07:11] <blank> guys, I really need a program that converts AVI files to dvd format so I can watch on my dvd player
[07:11] <Mabus06> Yes Xenguy I read that.
[07:11] <blank> Nalioth: how do I install proprietary formats
[07:11] <Madpilot> Mabus06: you set your own user pw
[07:11] <axel> traaks, ok thx ill try this
[07:11] <Mabus06> But Xenguy it is not true, because I did set my root password.
[07:11] <frogzoo> !restricted formats
[07:11] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[07:11] <ompaul> Mabus06, there is none set, it would be better to say "there is none set, please use sudo"
[07:11] <Xenguy> Mabus06: maybe you did the 'expert' install
[07:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell blank about restricted
[07:12] <sunny_boy> Thanks guys. Sorry for the interruption :)
[07:12] <Mabus06> I did, but why would people say there is no root, when it really isn't that hard to set it.
[07:12] <x86i> Mabus06: Did you do an expert install
[07:12] <axel> traaks, already have binutils
[07:12] <traaks> axel: oops not right... cud you send me the exact error.. copy paste
[07:12] <jgw> mabus: they mean the root account is disabled by default
[07:12] <Xenguy> Mabus06: you didn't read the URL very well me thinks ;-)
[07:12] <axel> traaks, can u open a private chat so i dont flood here
[07:12] <nalioth> Mabus06: because the ubuntu devs feel 'root' is unnecessary
[07:12] <jgw> mabus: it rough terms
[07:13] <jgw> s/it/in
[07:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell axel about paste
[07:13] <ompaul> Mabus06, take this to #ubuntu-offtopic now please - conversations aplenty there this is support channel
[07:13] <xinsi> :/LIST
[07:13] <traaks> axel: how do i do that
[07:14] <traaks> ubotu: tell traaks about paste
[07:14] <Mattias> how do i install English + on ubuntu?
[07:15] <Mattias> the wine seems very old
[07:15] <dell500> does anyone know why my java_vm is running at like 60-90% cpu and 300mb of memory?
[07:15] <dell500> I can't seem to kill it either
[07:15] <N1omi> all: what's the apt-get for gstreamer codecs?
[07:15] <nalioth> dell500: because java sucks?
[07:15] <cusco> N1omi: apt-cache search gstreamer
[07:15] <dpupp> is it possible to change/enter the wep encryption key via terminal?
[07:15] <nalioth> N1omi: is that you?
[07:16] <dell500> nalioth, agreed
[07:16] <frogzoo> nalioth java rocks when it works, which isn't always
[07:16] <cusco> dpupp: yes use iwconfig
[07:16] <Nytryx> ok whats the name of the text based web browser?
[07:16] <nalioth> Nytryx: irssi
[07:16] <clb_> lynx
[07:16] <dpupp> i did... but it just lists information
[07:16] <N1omi> nalioth: yes, i'm on my laptop, i probably left xchat running on my desktop
[07:16] <Secreth`X> brb
[07:16] <frogzoo> Nytryx: lynx
[07:16] <Mattias> how do i install newest wine?
[07:16] <Xenguy> Nytryx: or try links
[07:16] <cusco> dpupp: sudo iwconfig -h
[07:16] <nalioth> Nytryx: or links2
[07:16] <Mattias> the wine following breezy isnt working
[07:16] <dpupp> ah
[07:16] <nalioth> Nytryx: or w3m
[07:16] <dpupp> thanks cusco.
[07:16] <cusco> dpupp: sudo iwconfig device enc NNNN-NNNN
[07:17] <xinsi> how could I disable the boot service that connect to the ubuntu server?
[07:17] <N1omi> cusco: thanks!
[07:17] <cusco> np
[07:17] <xinsi> which service is it ?
[07:17] <cusco> xinsi: what boot service?
[07:17] <cusco> the clock?
[07:17] <clb_> xinsi: ntptime?
[07:18] <cusco> ntpdate
[07:18] <clb_> delete /etc/rcS.d/S51ntpdate
[07:18] <cusco> sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[07:18] <clb_> or do what cusco said
[07:18] <dpupp> cusco, are wep encryption keys case sensitive?
[07:19] <cusco> dpupp: ofcourse
[07:19] <dpupp> ok
[07:19] <clb_> hey, I built my own kernel from kernel.org but I can't boot the vmlinux image.. I get invalid image error in grub
[07:19] <xinsi> I can't find it nptime in bum
[07:19] <denseralvo> hello people
[07:19] <Mattias> someone knows how i can get newest Wine?
[07:19] <denseralvo> who r using ubuntu?
[07:19] <traaks> mattias: are you on amd64
[07:19] <denseralvo> i know
[07:20] <denseralvo> winehq.com
[07:20] <N1omi> i'm having troubles with ntp as well -- when i try to install NTP support i get errors
[07:20] <denseralvo> no
[07:20] <Mattias> traaks, im on a celeron
[07:20] <denseralvo> 32bit
[07:20] <blank> right now my pc was effed up
[07:20] <blank> i started it
[07:20] <blank> ad i couoldn't start anything, terminal, nothing
[07:20] <blank> it says 'cant start' something like that, something about user Xauthorization file
[07:20] <mtupper> hey all, having a problem installing mysql...
[07:20] <dducko> well that hurt..
[07:20] <blank> yeah :( i was scared
[07:21] <xinsi> i got it ,it is ntpdate, and thank you
[07:21] <mtupper> i run the apt-get install cmd and get this:
[07:21] <mtupper> Reading package lists... Done
[07:21] <mtupper> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:21] <mtupper> E: Couldn't find package mysql-standard-5.0.15-linux-i686-glibc23.tar.gz
[07:21] <nalioth> mtupper: please dont paste in here
[07:21] <sunshine82> i need to uninstall a file that in my home folder this file isn not in sypatic
[07:21] <Mattias> traaks, this is my error http://pastebin.com/425728
[07:21] <_jason> blank, have you tried deleting/renaming the file?  I believe it will create a new one
[07:21] <blank> watch, I think it's when I try to install bum
[07:21] <dducko> sunshine82, uninstal or remove?
[07:22] <_jason> blank, Xauthority tight?
[07:22] <blank> _jason: I cnat start anything, I was so pissed, seriously, i cant fucken do anything, click icons, run terminals, creat files, select folders, nothing
[07:22] <blank> well i guess it's over
[07:22] <blank> so im alright
[07:22] <traaks> mattias: looking gimme a min
[07:22] <liz4rd> blank, go in ~/ and delete the .ICEauthority    file then restart X
[07:22] <mtupper> ok, no more, paste...   any recommendations though?
[07:22] <blank> yeah but I think it's all alright now, nothing's wrong
[07:22] <blank> I just restarted and it worked
[07:22] <liz4rd> alright
[07:22] <liz4rd> just member that if it happens and it wont work
[07:22] <traaks> mattias: what are u trying to install thru wine ?
[07:22] <trappist> mtupper: you don't apt-get install tarballs
[07:22] <cusco> blank: xauth merge /home/user/.Xauthority
[07:23] <blank> liz4rd: yeah but then I wouldn't be able to get into terminal...heh
[07:23] <Mattias> traaks, English + for my mother to learn english.
[07:23] <doug_> who knows how to change the startup preference on grub2?
[07:23] <liz4rd> blank, yes you could
[07:23] <blank> how o.0
[07:23] <cusco> blank: you can use a tty like alt+ctrl+ F3
[07:23] <liz4rd> blank, ctrl + alt + F2
[07:23] <blank> *presses*
[07:23] <liz4rd> or F3
[07:23] <frogzoo> doug_: man grub
[07:23] <_jason> you guys should have told him how to get back..
[07:24] <liz4rd> lol
[07:24] <doug_> ty
[07:24] <liz4rd> Ooops
[07:24] <dducko> yeah..thats what I was thinking
[07:24] <dducko> oops
[07:24] <traaks> mattias: i was thinking u had problems installing wine itself :( sorry can't help u
[07:24] <cj> what is the ubuntu kernel image package called?
[07:24] <liz4rd> alright now for my problem
[07:24] <liz4rd> :P
[07:24] <mtupper> ooops...  ok i have demonstrated my rookie status...  so i have to untar / unpack it first, then install?
[07:24] <Mattias> traaks, well i was thinking a newer version might help, but im used to gentoo and i don't know how to get the newest wine in ubuntu
[07:24] <trappist> cj: linux
[07:24] <cj> thanks, trappist
[07:25] <traaks> mattias: what's the output of wine --version
[07:25] <Mattias> traaks, Wine 20050725
[07:25] <liz4rd> i have ubuntu breezy and i install the nvidia-glx  drivers and now when i enable the hardware acell (change the driver to "nvidia" instead of "nv" ) X wont start. i got a log file with it in there anyone care to help?
[07:25] <sunshine82> dducko i want to remove it from my computer
[07:26] <traaks> mattias: that is currently the latest version availble in breezy afaik..
[07:26] <mtupper> i have a more basic question...  why isnt MySQL in Synaptic...?  I have tried to get it listed on the repository to no avail...
[07:26] <morphix> ok i have a very odd situation. i compiled eggdrop (yet again) but when i load it up in background mode (just the normal: eggdrop command) the egg doesnt connect to irc at all.. but when i do eggdrop & it does :/
[07:26] <Mattias> traaks, the setup.exe starts with that i can choose if i want swedish or english as setup language, then if i click anything there i get that error.
[07:26] <traaks> mattias: have u tried installing the app in windows itself and then running the app thru wine
[07:26] <Mattias> traaks, the app works in windows
[07:26] <mike4263> hey, for a standard desktop install of 5.10 on a machine that dual boots windows, what filesystem should i use
[07:26] <adrian_> (im blank) *crying* man, I actually pressed it, and my pc came up with this tty thing, so i restarted, and then it says it cant find ext3 :'(
[07:26] <Mattias> traaks, its a 5 years old cd tho
[07:26] <adrian_> somone please help me :(
[07:26] <mike4263> i'm thinking ext3
[07:26] <trappist> Mattias: he's suggesting installing it in windows and running the windows install through wine
[07:26] <adrian_> I pressed CTRL + ALT + F3
[07:27] <mike4263> will that be easier to work with in windows?
[07:27] <liz4rd> mike4263, anyone you want :P
[07:27] <adrian_> and it came up with tty3
[07:27] <traaks> mattias: if u mount ur windows partition in linux and then try running the app thru wine, does it work
[07:27] <Madpilot> mtupper: mysql is in Synaptic - you need to enable the Universe/Multiverse repositories, I think
[07:27] <Mattias> traaks, problem is i don't have windows :P
[07:27] <trappist> Mattias: like wine /mnt/windows/Program\ Files....
[07:27] <adrian_> so i logged in and typed startx
[07:27] <frogzoo> doug_: for the full grub docs, install grub-docs & "info grub"
[07:27] <adrian_> and now my pc is messed up, someone please help  me :(
[07:27] <BooZee> how do I delete a directory ?
[07:27] <_jason> blank, once you are in tty you can switch to 1-6 by pressing alt+f1-alt+f6 to get back you just hit alt+f7
[07:27] <Hoxzer> http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/the_honeymooners/large.html can you guys get sound from this?
[07:27] <trappist> BooZee: rm -rf
[07:27] <Xenguy> BooZee: command-line?
[07:27] <mike4263> liz4rd, ya but which is "more better"
[07:27] <Mattias> traaks, i guess ill have to find a linux alternative for a english learning app
[07:27] <axel> Who knows about a good video conversion prog on Ubuntu ?
[07:28] <trappist> axel: mencoder
[07:28] <Mattias> traaks, you don't happen to know anything on learning languages?
[07:28] <adrian_> _jason: but I didnt know so i restarted, and now im getting weird things when I start my pc :( cant find ext3 or something
[07:28] <N1omi> i get these errors when i try to install NTP: http://pastebin.com/425736
[07:28] <Xenguy> BooZee: if the dir is empty, rmdir
[07:28] <axel> trappist: thank u
[07:28] <liz4rd> mike4263, ReiserFS
[07:28] <BooZee> thanks
[07:28] <Xenguy> BooZee: careful, 'rm -rf dir' is recursive
[07:28] <adrian_> nevermind it works now (restarted again), man ubuntu is freaking me out, it keeps messing up randomly :(
[07:29] <adrian_> anyone wanna ssh to my pc and check it out
[07:29] <cj> Xenguy: and forced
[07:29] <traaks> mattias: nope :(
[07:29] <trappist> N1omi: looks like your sources.list is borked
[07:29] <Xenguy> adrian_: don't do that
[07:29] <cj> adrian_: what do you need done?
[07:29] <N1omi> adrian_, please be more specific about your problem.
[07:29] <Xenguy> cj: nod
[07:29] <liz4rd> adrian_, dont say that unless your box is totally usless at this time
[07:29] <adrian_> ITS ME BLANK
[07:29] <liz4rd> theres assholes ont hte net
[07:29] <liz4rd> oh
[07:29] <liz4rd> snap
[07:29] <liz4rd> hey
[07:29] <Mattias> anyone in here know any application that teaches english in linux?
[07:29] <adrian_> some guy told me to press ALT+CTRL+F3
[07:29] <BooZee> recursive = unreversable ?
[07:29] <liz4rd> sorry i didnt tell you how to get out of cle
[07:29] <adrian_> and then i went into tty3
[07:29] <liz4rd> :P
[07:30] <adrian_> i logged in and typed 'starx'
[07:30] <liz4rd> are you in it right now?
[07:30] <liz4rd> startx?
[07:30] <liz4rd> no no no
[07:30] <N1omi> trappist: thanks -- is there something i can do to reset to default, or find a pre-made one with popular repositories?
[07:30] <liz4rd> press the combo again
[07:30] <adrian_> it didnt work, cause it said i was already logged in, so then i restarted and i got this 'built in bash' thing, so i just restarted again and it works :)
[07:30] <liz4rd> log in
[07:30] <cj> adrian_: place this file in your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file, and run "chmod 600 $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys"
[07:30] <liz4rd> type sudo killall gdm
[07:30] <cj> http://colliertech.org/~cjcollier/pgp/cjcollier.pub
[07:30] <liz4rd> then type sudo gdm
[07:30] <cj> er, sorry.  that's my pgp key, not ssh
[07:30] <liz4rd> then you'll be good
[07:30] <adrian_> :)
[07:30] <liz4rd> alright adrian?
[07:31] <adrian_> kay :(
[07:31] <trappist> !tell N1omi about repos
[07:31] <adrian_> it works now! :D
[07:31] <frogzoo> Mattias: maybe try the english forums @ http://wordreference.com/
[07:31] <adrian_> I just restarted
[07:31] <liz4rd> :P
[07:32] <cj> adrian_: make that http://colliertech.org/~cjcollier/ssh/cjcollier.pub
[07:32] <Mattias> frogzoo, oh, its for my mother that knows none english at all, i need something that can teach the basics of the languages and those stuffs.
[07:32] <blank> *sniff* it works now
[07:32] <blank> thanks for all the help, but I just restarted and it works, or should there be something else I have to do
[07:32] <clb_> why isn't there mkinitrd in ubuntu.. only mkinitramfs?
[07:32] <liz4rd> blank, *sniff* isnt it butifull
[07:33] <blank> o.0
[07:33] <Mattias> frogzoo, forgot to mention it has to be in swedish to :)
[07:33] <liz4rd> lol
[07:33] <trappist> clb_: I wanna know that too.  I've had a helluva time building a kernel.
[07:33] <trappist> clb_: there is a mkinitrd but it doesn't run with make install
[07:34] <trappist> blank: initrd-tools
[07:34] <clb_> which package should I install to get mkinitrd? initrd-tools?
[07:34] <trappist> yes
[07:34] <N1omi> trappist, you are so helpful! thanks!
[07:34] <Mattias> bah. i guess ill have to install windows. :/
[07:34] <liz4rd> Mattias, BAH! forbid it!
[07:35] <Mattias> liz4rd, ofcourse its not for my main computer :) ill always use linux, but my mother uses ancient windows apps that wine cannot read :P
[07:35] <Secreth`X> lol
[07:35] <mike4263> whats a good size swap for 512MB (I'm planning on putting in another gig of ram at some point)
[07:35] <liz4rd> Mattias, ewie
[07:36] <liz4rd> mike4263, whats your ram size right now?
[07:36] <mike4263> 512
[07:36] <adjacent> anyone else have a p[roblem with some flash objects freezing at 1 sec? things like google video are useless. what could this be?
[07:36] <liz4rd> then put 1 gig of swap
[07:36] <bluefrog-10> mike4263, double it
[07:36] <mike4263> k
[07:37] <dducko> and that is why I love linux
[07:37] <liz4rd> if you but more swap shit will cache to early and make you slow down a bit
[07:37] <kevin> Hi, how do I extract a ' cpkg ' ?
[07:37] <liz4rd> so yeah always double your swap from what your ram is
[07:37] <loki> Hooray! I got my apache server working :) now all I need to know is where the hell it installed to LOL! :) where is all my files so i can go about tweeking my l337 ubuntu server TIA :)
[07:37] <trappist> no, do not always make your swap ram x 2
[07:37] <dducko> /var/www I believe
[07:37] <liz4rd> i have ubuntu breezy and i install the nvidia-glx  drivers and now when i enable the hardware acell (change the driver to "nvidia" instead of "nv" ) X wont start. i got a log file with it in there anyone care to help?
[07:37] <dducko> liz4rd, I just did that,
[07:37] <marlun> I'm reading "learning the shell" on www.linuxcommand.org and now I read that /home is the only place where users are allowed to write files. What about if I want to create a web application, should I not save them in a directory inside /var/www/ ?
[07:38] <liz4rd> dducko....oh?
[07:38] <liz4rd> and
[07:38] <bluefrog-10> liz4rd, there's no need to fiddle with xorg.conf when u install nvidia-glx
[07:38] <liz4rd> i kow
[07:38] <adjacent> marlun: you arent a user. you are the administrator
[07:38] <liz4rd> i didnt do the enable command shit
[07:38] <liz4rd> but still
[07:38] <liz4rd> X wont start
[07:38] <liz4rd> i installed nvidia-glx before upgrading kernels
[07:39] <N1omi> newbie question: what is the exact location of sources.list?
[07:39] <liz4rd> and it worked
[07:39] <liz4rd> but i uninstaleld it before i switched
[07:39] <liz4rd> and reinstalled when i was on the new one
[07:39] <liz4rd> and BAM
[07:39] <liz4rd> it didnt work again
[07:39] <bigfoot1> i downloaded a mid file. it ends in .mid but ubuntu says file type is "html". what's up?
[07:39] <dducko> ahh I see
[07:39] <bluefrog-10> liz4rd, remove completely nvidia-glx, install, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, sudo modprobe nvidia, ctrl alt return, log in
[07:39] <adjacent> marlun: and yes, /var/www is a standard place to puyt websites. usually /var/www/home or /var/www/othersite aliases to a vhost.
[07:39] <jc-denton> hi all
[07:39] <liz4rd> N1omi, /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:39] <jc-denton> ubuntu is bitching that my universe packages are not signed
[07:39] <N1omi> liz4rd, thanks a lot :)
[07:39] <liz4rd> np
[07:40] <adjacent> marlun: user space webpages are typically read from /home/user/public_html and are referenced by www.blah.com/~user/
[07:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jc-denton about gpgerr
[07:40] <bigfoot1> how can i change the filetype of a file?
[07:40] <jc-denton> deb http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[07:40] <liz4rd> but bluefrog-10
[07:40] <jron_> anyone gotten pftp-mew working on ubuntu? can't figure out why this thing isnt compiling....
[07:40] <liz4rd> how do i
[07:40] <dducko> Hmm.. Well I screwed my kernel up just now.. heh.. which is why i love linux, just installed a different one, booted to X figured out what my problem was reinstalled the k7 stuff and got my Nvidia working
[07:40] <N1omi> bigfoot1, right click and rename
[07:40] <mike4263> there an easy way to say have everything thats installed by source added to like /usr/localsrc
[07:40] <adjacent> loki: cmon.
[07:40] <jc-denton> that's my universe entry in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:40] <sidizen> how can i tell how much harddisk space i have left?
[07:40] <liz4rd> "remove completly"?
[07:40] <adjacent> loki: use locate
[07:40] <jack-> lol jron_
[07:40] <jc-denton> what can be wrong with it
[07:40] <liz4rd> just sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx?
[07:40] <marlun> adjacent, hehe everytime I have a new question you answer it before I have time to ask it :P
[07:40] <loki> cool, thanks :)
[07:40] <mike4263> sidizen df
[07:40] <sidizen> df?
[07:40] <anavim> does anyone know the url for the linux patent company, open innovation network, announced today in the news?
[07:40] <jc-denton> i never saw this warning before with universe
[07:40] <jron_> why so funny jack- ?
[07:40] <mike4263> sidizen df -h actually
[07:40] <mike4263> "disk free"
[07:40] <sidizen> at the terminal/
[07:40] <bluefrog-10> liz4rd, complete removal with synaptic
[07:41] <mike4263> ya
[07:41] <sidizen> sweet
[07:41] <vmware> exit
[07:41] <vmware> quit
[07:41] <sidizen> man xubuntu doesn't take up much space
[07:41] <dducko> bluefrog-10, he doesnt have x
[07:41] <adjacent> loki: if you just installed, you may need to run updatedb first to recreate the search index. that is normally run at midnight from cron
[07:41] <bigfoot1> N1omi: the file ends in .mid, but ubuntu thinks the filetype is "html web page"
[07:41] <jack-> jron_: just copy the binary from any linux shell you compiled it on
[07:41] <sidizen> only 1.1 GBs
[07:41] <adrian_> i think my other pc froze, cuase I cant do anything except watch the text from xchat (it updates) and move my mouse :(
[07:41] <adjacent> marlun: hope it helps
[07:41] <sidizen> anyone know how much Ubuntu takes up?
[07:41] <loki> ok thank you :)
[07:41] <bluefrog-10> apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx
[07:41] <adjacent> im feeling nice today, who else has questions?
[07:41] <jc-denton> ok so the prob is that they changed the key or something
[07:41] <ddc> traaks: just the same error, still inconsistent kallsyms data
[07:42] <jron_> if i had some place to compile it i would do just that jack- =(
[07:42] <marlun> adjacent, but if I'm only going to create some web applications I should save my files in /var/www/webappname/ right?
[07:42] <sidizen> could i install ubuntu on a 5 gb hard drive?
[07:42] <nalioth> jc-denton: it's a server side problem, not a problem with your box
[07:42] <adjacent> loki: thats how to find it, but also man apache or apache2 will tell you the file locations at the bottom of the page
[07:42] <LazyAngel> how can i force my cdrom to eject without rebooting?
[07:42] <liz4rd> sidizenm, yes of course
[07:42] <marlun> adjacent, yes it helps, thanks =)
[07:42] <adjacent> marlun: yes. and chown them to www-data
[07:42] <clb_> how do I set an environment variable... set ABC=value doesn't seem to work
[07:42] <adrian_> guys im so close to giving up on ubuntu :( it just froze and i cant do anything except move my mouse and watch what you say on xchat
[07:42] <W0lF> sidizen yep =)
[07:42] <loki> ok cool :)
[07:42] <bluefrog-10> now as u have fiddled with xorg.conf it may confuse nvidia and prevent it to rewrite the conf..
[07:42] <sidizen> liz4rd: how much space will ubuntu take up?
[07:42] <adjacent> clb_: in bash do export var=value
[07:42] <sidizen> i don't want xubuntu or kubuntu, but ubuntu
[07:42] <liz4rd> sidizenm, like 2 gig
[07:42] <clb_> thank you
[07:42] <marlun> adjacent, don't know what chown is =) I'll have to learn some more before I start doing that I guess.
[07:42] <adrian_> somebody please help me :'(
[07:43] <pierro> anyone with sylpheed and bogofilter working (breezy) ? i can't make it so that bogofilter filters the arriving mails
[07:43] <jc-denton> nalioth: ok
[07:43] <traaks> ddc: hmm.. have u applied any third party patches or just compiling the pristine sources
[07:43] <sidizen> ok
[07:43] <adjacent> marlun: its easy, man is your best friend
[07:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell marlun about cli
[07:43] <adrian_> my computer froze and I could only move my mouse and watch what you say on irc, other than that, everything's frozen :(
[07:43] <mike4263> what language is the user creation script in?
[07:43] <LazyAngel> never mind
[07:43] <ddc> traaks: i was following the howto for hibernate2
[07:43] <dducko> adrian_, what did you do beforehand?
[07:43] <marlun> nalioth, allready reading that :P
[07:43] <adrian_> nothing, clicking some menus and going online
[07:44] <adrian_> :'(
[07:44] <adrian_> unless i locked it by accident, but i click the lock button and nothing happens
[07:44] <ddc> traaks: but nothing in the topic mentions this problem
[07:44] <adrian_> how can I unlock my pc, just to make sure i didnt
[07:44] <traaks> ddc: see this link http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0508.3/1822.html
[07:44] <runedude3> hey all, got a small problem
[07:44] <kdude> hello!
[07:44] <mike4263> anybody know anything about the user creation script
[07:44] <kdude> can somebody help me setup samba as a windows PDC?
[07:44] <runedude3> my top and bottom gnome bars are missing, and nothing i run fixes it :(
[07:44] <mike4263> i loved some parts of slack and hated others
[07:44] <adjacent> mike4263: you know all about it. use the source
[07:44] <traaks> ddc: i believe that this was a known problem in 2.6.13 and appears to be fixed in 2.6.14
[07:45] <adjacent> mike4263: you have it on your computer, look it up ;)
[07:45] <mike4263> its bash right?
[07:45] <mike4263> hah, the install isnt done yet
[07:45] <kdude> is there a good front-end for samba server?
[07:45] <ddc> traaks: already tried but got 13 out of 14 hunks failed when doing patch -p1 < patchfile
[07:45] <adjacent> mike4263:
[07:46] <adjacent> scott@logic:~/test$ file /usr/sbin/adduser
[07:46] <adjacent> /usr/sbin/adduser: perl script text executable
[07:46] <runedude3> my top and bottom gnome bars are missing, and nothing i run fixes it, any ideas guys?
[07:46] <adrian_> GUYS IM SO PISSED, my frickin computer froze, I mean, like, didn't freeze, I can move my mouse and see what you say on irc, but I cant go through menus, click icons, etc.
[07:46] <ddc> adrian_: reboot ? ;)
[07:46] <adrian_> :'(
[07:46] <adjacent> adrian_: hit alt-f2
[07:46] <adrian_> ALT+F2 does what
[07:46] <adjacent> adrian_: and use alt-f7 to get back
[07:46] <adrian_> yeah reboot always works, but this have been happening
[07:46] <mike4263> adjacent, perl.... sweet
[07:46] <andrownz> about DVDRIP : I've been trying almost everything for these last two hours, can't get it installed ! i'm first trying to install transcode, but it complains about many dependencies like libavifile-0.7c2 (>= 1:0.7.44.20051021-1) but it is not installable, etc .. what should I do?
[07:46] <adrian_> yeah but what does alt f2 do
[07:46] <adjacent> adrian_: goes to shell, alt f1 to apt-f6 are ttys
[07:46] <bigfoot1> somebody, help. No matter what I rename a file (its extension), ubuntu still thinks filetype is "HTML webpage." What's going on?
[07:46] <adrian_> oh
[07:46] <adjacent> adrian_: log in as root and killall gdm
[07:46] <adrian_> okay :)
[07:46] <mike4263> i'm gonna like this distro just fine :P
[07:46] <adrian_> you  mean sudo killall gdm
[07:46] <PJeremy> uuuhm, just curious, how difficult is a reinstall of XP when ubuntu is already installed?
[07:47] <adrian_> and then what, just go back with ALT F7?
[07:47] <traaks> ddc: against what sources are you applying the patcg
[07:47] <adjacent> adrian_: yeh
[07:47] <adjacent> adrian_: restart gdm
[07:47] <traaks> ddc: *patch*
[07:47] <CarinArr> pjeremy, it shouldn't be hard as such.. just you'll need to fix the mbr after
[07:47] <adrian_> okay wait
[07:47] <adrian_> restart gdm, wtf
[07:47] <adjacent> adrian_: but i would look in /var/log/ to find out what crahsed and fix it first
[07:47] <Determinist> i hate business customers! ;/
[07:47] <adrian_> so i killall gdm
[07:47] <adrian_> and then what
[07:47] <PJeremy> CarinArr: and i would do that how?
[07:47] <adrian_> killall gdm and then
[07:47] <adrian_> ?
[07:47] <dducko> /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:47] <ddc> traaks: linux-source-2.6.12
[07:48] <dducko> or just startx
[07:48] <adjacent> adrian_: yeh. dducko said it
[07:48] <adrian_> oh right
[07:48] <adrian_> so killall gdm then startx
[07:48] <BiZToRo> when i try to compile cpp file with g++ i get bounch of errors
[07:48] <adrian_> right?
[07:48] <adjacent> use init script
[07:48] <adjacent> adrian_: yeh. do it.
[07:48] <adrian_> uh, okay
[07:48] <dducko> but look in your error first to find out what happened
[07:48] <BioNik> Moro
[07:48] <adrian_> killall gdm then startx
[07:48] <adrian_> right?
[07:48] <adjacent> adrian_:
[07:48] <dducko> /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:48] <runedude3> hm
[07:48] <adrian_> okay, so that instead of startx
[07:48] <adjacent> no. killall gdm;/etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:49] <runedude3> what would killall gnome-session do?
[07:49] <adjacent> adrian_: /etc/init.d/gdm restart might do it too
[07:49] <traaks> ddc: aah.. you'll need to apply the patch first to 2.6.13 and then to 2.6.14. and this needs to be done on the plain linux kernel 2.6.12 from kernel.org, not the ones that are installed with ubuntu as ubuntu would have applied its own set of patches
[07:50] <CarinArr> pjeremy, this thread might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76652
[07:50] <adrian_> man so much for linux being stable, ALT F2 isnt working
[07:50] <PJeremy> CarinArr: thanks
[07:50] <parktownprawn> runedude3: what does killall gnome-panel do?
[07:50] <adjacent> adrian_: try alt-f3 or alt-f4
[07:50] <adrian_> you sure it's alt f2
[07:50] <adrian_> okay
[07:50] <gardin> probably remove the gnome-panel?
[07:50] <gardin> close*
[07:50] <parktownprawn> runedude3: how did you get rid of the panels
[07:50] <runedude3> kills my panels, restarts them and doesnt put ANYTHING on them
[07:50] <runedude3> parktownprawn: i didnt, they locked up
[07:51] <runedude3> parktownprawn: so i just killed them
[07:51] <CarinArr> adrian_, try ctrl+alt f2
[07:51] <adjacent> CarinArr: hahaha. right. doh!
[07:51] <parktownprawn> runedude3: there is probably some panel-app which crashed which is stopping things starting again
[07:51] <runedude3> parktownprawn: is there anyway to fix this?
[07:51] <adrian_> screw it i just frickin restarted, man im getting pissed, having to restart each time i boot up  cause it fucken crashes (sorry my lang), and all was going great too
[07:51] <parktownprawn> runedude3: what happens if you type top?
[07:51] <CarinArr> adjacent, heh, i actually had to try it to be sure
[07:51] <CarinArr> do it all the time but never pay much attention to how you do it
[07:52] <durt> can i use greek letters in dia? if so, how?
[07:52] <adrian_> it ALWAYS somehow restarts
[07:52] <runedude3> er, top returns the top processes
[07:52] <adrian_> it was some error in xauthorization or something, you guys were telling me how to fix it, how do you?
[07:52] <CarinArr> adrian_, you'll want to look through error logs
[07:52] <andrownz> anybody has gotten DVD::RIP working on Breezy ? I've parsed all documentations, can't get it working : dependencies problems like : "libavifile-0.7c2 (>= 1:0.7.44.20051021-1) but it is not installable", anyone can help ?
[07:52] <parktownprawn> runedude3: is it taking a huge amount of processor
[07:53] <runedude3> nope
[07:53] <CarinArr> adrian_, depends on what the error is
[07:53] <kevogod> andrownz, Yes.
[07:53] <parktownprawn> runedude3: last resort = log out and log in of gnome
[07:53] <andrownz> kevogod, haven't had any problem?
[07:53] <ddc> traaks: mmh don't understand it, why patching .13 .14 kernels to get .12 kernel working? Shouldn't I use kernel .14 then?? sorry for the trouble
[07:53] <kevogod> andrownz, Nope.
[07:53] <runedude3> parktownprawn: i dont want to do that
[07:53] <andrownz> kevogod, how did you proceed? I've tryied everything I think
[07:53] <ancient> How can a config Ubuntu to broadcast a ip to a hub, so winblows can connect to the internet through a linux box as a router / server
[07:53] <kevogod> andrownz, I made sure I had all of the correct codecs.
[07:54] <andrownz> kevogod, I've installed them all
[07:54] <traaks> ddc: otherwise disable the extra kallsyms pass in the kernel config
[07:54] <parktownprawn> runedude3: well try ps faux | grep app
[07:54] <tkup> ancient, you might want to read aboud dhcpd
[07:54] <adrian_> no, it's something with ext3, when I restarted, i got that 'ext3 cant read directory' error again
[07:54] <andrownz> kevogod, do you know how I could find a work around for this : "libavifile-0.7c2 (>= 1:0.7.44.20051021-1) but it is not installable"
[07:54] <parktownprawn> runedude3: to see whats applets are still running - they may be preventing the panel from restarting
[07:54] <ancient> got a link to dhcpd
[07:54] <ddc> traaks: what does kallsyms do btw?
[07:54] <runedude3> runedude 11131  0.0  1.8 122868  9516 ?        S    Nov10   0:35 /usr/lib/gnome-panel/wnck-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Wncklet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=31
[07:54] <runedude3> er
[07:54] <adrian_> I dont know if I should reinstall or try another distro, but I really love ubuntu...it's just that it crashes like crazy
[07:55] <traaks> ddc: no idea :P
[07:55] <runedude3> and mapping-daemon and amarokapp
[07:55] <parktownprawn> runedude3: kill wnck-applet
[07:55] <parktownprawn> runedude3: kill the wnck-applet
[07:55] <runedude3> ooh
[07:55] <runedude3> everything just reappeared
[07:55] <parktownprawn> runedude3: did you try start mathematica by any chance?
[07:55] <runedude3> thanks mate
[07:55] <runedude3> naw
[07:55] <CarinArr> adrian_, if it's crashing because of ext3 errors i doubt it's ubuntu causing the problem
[07:55] <runedude3> havent been doing anything .. last thing i remember is amarok crashing so i force quit'ed on it
[07:55] <runedude3> then my taskbar failed
[07:56] <Secreth`X> Hmm, if you run a program in wine, and ask the OS, it says windows 98, can this be correct?
[07:56] <parktownprawn> runedude3: ok some apps don't play nicely with wnck-applet
[07:56] <runedude3> parktownprawn: well atleast it works now, tyvm :)
[07:56] <adjacent> k. one more question and im out. who has one?
[07:56] <parktownprawn> runedude3: sure
[07:57] <ddc> adjacent: do you know something about kallsyms.c problems
[07:57] <adjacent> ddc: not unless you tell me what problem it is?
[07:57] <adjacent> ack. i mean, not unless you tell me the problem.
[07:58] <adrian_> since I was getting ext3 errors, what formatting should I choose
[07:58] <ddc> adjacent: when trying to recompile my kernel i got this error:Inconsistent kallsyms data
[07:58] <ddc> Try setting CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS
[07:58] <adjacent> ddc: did you set that config var and retry? ;)
[07:58] <adrian_> should I choose ext3 again? it caused problems right now (as you know), how bout reiserfs?
[07:59] <ddc> adjacent: can i set the var by just editing .config?
[07:59] <adjacent> ddc: i imagine it can be set with xconfig, let me check
[07:59] <adjacent> adrian_: use ext3, imho.
[07:59] <nalioth> adrian_: stick with ext2 or 3
[08:00] <adrian_> okay, I just hope it doesnt frickin give me problems again
[08:00] <ddc> adjacent: # "CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS is not set"  just remove the # and the is not set probably?
[08:00] <adrian_> oh yeah now it kicks me, that took a while
[08:00] <shawn_> hey my livecd just got all frozen up, and i dont feel like restarting.. what can i do to bring it back (the mouse is responsive and doing a wait animation, but wont click)
[08:00] <CarinArr> adrian_, if you try formatting it and reinstalling ubuntu and still have problems i would say it's the drive causing the problem not the filesystem
[08:00] <adjacent> adrian_: your HD is probably dying. buy a new one. they are cheap
[08:00] <adrian_> I understand
[08:01] <adrian_> thanks
[08:01] <rayen> Hi, how do I extract a ' cpkg ' ?
[08:01] <adrian_> you mean a dpkg ?
[08:01] <nalioth> adrian_: if you want to check your HD, get a livecd and install "smartmontools" on it. then run smartctl in a console
[08:01] <rayen> no, cpkg
[08:01] <adrian_> oh
[08:01] <tobi-wan> shawn_: i don't know the livecd, but you could try restarting gdm via console
[08:01] <traaks> BRB
[08:01] <adrian_> how can I install something on a livecd...
[08:01] <shawn_> i dont have a console at hand
[08:02] <shawn_> sshd isnt on
[08:02] <v-dogg> evening
[08:02] <nalioth> adrian_: same way you do it on a regular install. apt-get or synaptic
[08:02] <shawn_> i think i need some keyboard shortcuts to restart x or something of the sort
[08:02] <adrian_> yeah, where would it install to
[08:02] <shawn_> adrian_, if you right click on any package in synaptic it gives you a list of the installed files
[08:02] <shawn_> adrian_, under properties
[08:02] <tobi-wan> shawn_: as said, i don't know the livecd, but does strg+alt+F1-5 not give you a commandline
[08:03] <v-dogg> simple question: does Ubuntu ship with KDE? ie. can I install it with KDE (easily :)
[08:03] <shawn_> tobi-wan, strg+alt ? whats strg?
[08:03] <CarinArr> v-dogg, try kubuntu
[08:04] <CarinArr> or alternatively you can easily install kde through synaptic
[08:04] <shawn_> tobi-wan, it seems that either gnome or metacity or something isn't down with letting me do anything, something is froze up, and i think it's just my music player
[08:04] <v-dogg> yet another distribution :)
[08:05] <CarinArr> v-dogg, well it's practically the same as regular ubuntu, it's just replaced gnome with kde
[08:05] <tobi-wan> shawn_: oh sorry, man. i meant ctrl-alt :-)
[08:05] <shawn_> heh no, that doesn't do anything either
[08:05] <tobi-wan> shawn_: obviously, i am from a german-speaking country :-)
[08:05] <adri_> I'm reinstalling
[08:05] <v-dogg> I'll give it a try
[08:05] <v-dogg> thanks CarinArr
[08:06] <adri_> what does it mean when you choose 'ERASE ENTIRE HARD DISK AND USE LVM'
[08:06] <adri_> what's lvm
[08:06] <nalioth> adrian_: logical volume manager
[08:06] <tobi-wan> shawn_: well.... does the kbd react at all? because if not, you are bound to reboot, i guess
[08:06] <adri_> nalioth: what does it do
[08:06] <shawn_> tobi-wan, ahhh shit i just checked the lights, nope
[08:06] <nalioth> adri_: it takes all your HDs and makes one apparent volume from them
[08:06] <shawn_> =x
[08:07] <adri_> o.0 oh
[08:07] <adri_> okay it's installing base system now
[08:08] <shawn_> sigh, that's the second time my livecd's crashed.
[08:08] <parktownprawn> rayen: cpkg = CoolPackager ?
[08:09] <v-dogg> there's no (k)ubuntu mini-cd available, is there?
[08:09] <rayen> parktownprawn, probably, i tryed to unzip the .tar.gz of Cool Packager, but it didn't work..
[08:10] <robotgeek> rayen: how were you trying ?
[08:10] <trappist> and define "didn't work"
[08:10] <parktownprawn> rayen: cool packager is meant to create self-extracting executable scripts (according to sourceforge)
[08:11] <parktownprawn> rayen: so i guess you should just type ./name_of_file.cpkg
[08:12] <parktownprawn> rayen: what do you want to install?
[08:12] <rayen> parktownprawn,  cedega engine
[08:12] <rayen> parktownprawn, bash: ./cedega-.... : permission denied
[08:13] <parktownprawn> rayen: i think there are probably better ways to install cedega
[08:14] <parktownprawn> rayen: for what its worth you could try : chmod u+x file.cpkg
[08:14] <parktownprawn> rayen: then ./file.cpkg (but i'm just guessing)
[08:14] <Secreth`X> Is there somewhere where you can get Cedega for free? I'm tired of wine.
[08:14] <Piero> hi everyone
[08:14] <rayen> parktownprawn, i fixed it already (tar -xvf *.cpkg) :)
[08:15] <Piero> where can I find a good howto for recompiling kernel?
[08:15] <Gary_III> hi :)
[08:15] <parktownprawn> rayen: great
[08:15] <trappist> Piero: google for 'kernel howto'
[08:15] <trappist> Secreth`X: you can get it via cvs from transgaming.com
[08:15] <Secreth`X> trappist, ok ill try
[08:17] <XLR> hi all
[08:17] <traaks> back
[08:18] <sedatc> hi all
[08:18] <sedatc> I have a question
[08:18] <mike4263> hey
[08:18] <mike4263> i just installed ubuntu
[08:19] <mike4263> and now after it does its bootup i just see a _
[08:19] <traaks> sedatc: ask away
[08:19] <mike4263> it hangs there
[08:19] <sedatc> I am using totem and I realized that sound coming 1 sec after video
[08:19] <Secreth`X> trappist, is it this?: http://www.transgaming.com/sources.php
[08:20] <trappist> Secreth`X: yes
[08:20] <sedatc> I think it is about codecs which should I use
[08:20] <mips> Hi
[08:20] <Secreth`X> ok trappist
[08:20] <mips> Anybody know where the developers hang out ?
[08:20] <blackvd> how do access Ubuntus control center?
[08:21] <sedatc> hey
[08:22] <sedatc> why sound coming 1 sec after from video
[08:22] <blackvd> nobody knows the command for Ubuntus Control Center?
[08:22] <Gary_III> i havnt had any luck getting totem to work ... xmms works
[08:23] <soundray> blackvd, all the settings are in System-Administration and System-Preferences.
[08:23] <blackvd> yeah I'm running fluxbox, so I need the commands
[08:24] <soundray> blackvd, the settings are all controlled through individual programs.
[08:25] <soundray> blackvd: E.g. Keyboard Preferences is gnome-keyboard-properties
[08:25] <blackvd> oh
[08:25] <blackvd> hm
[08:25] <blackvd> but if I run gnome prgs my system goes apes
[08:26] <blackvd> trying to set my screen res
[08:26] <blackvd> so there no main cc?
[08:26] <blackvd> thats weird
[08:26] <soundray> blackvd: it's just a way of doing things.
[08:26] <blackvd> what if you dont have gnome or kde?
[08:26] <N1omi> i'm getting a 'timestamp too far in the future' error
[08:26] <blackvd> what would you do?
[08:27] <N1omi> blackvd: then you use another GUI or BASH
[08:27] <soundray> blackvd: screen res is best set through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, anyway.
[08:28] <Gary_III> System/Preferences/screen resolution in gnome desktop , blackvd
[08:29] <OMFGFTS> Is it possible to fix a WinXP MBR from within linux ?
[08:29] <trappist> if by "fix" you mean "replace with grub", yest
[08:29] <trappist> *yes
[08:29] <Jelte> hi there... just installed breezy on my second laptop. The screen is a little shifted vertically... using xvidtune i can get it right, but how do i get those values in xorg.conf?  i've tried just putting the VertRefresh in xorg.conf, but that didn't seem to do much (its still shifted when i restart X)
[08:30] <OMFGFTS> trappist, Ubuntu grub has _royally_ be messing up. How can I do this
[08:30] <soundray> blackvd: what happens if you call gnome-display-properties?
[08:30] <OMFGFTS> *been
[08:30] <Determinist> OMFGFTS, you can use the repair console using the winxp cd to fix the winxp mbr, it all depends on what you want done
[08:30] <Secreth`X> trappist, aint working for me :x
[08:30] <blackvd> it works
[08:30] <blackvd> awesome thanks
[08:30] <soundray> blackvd, problem solved?
[08:31] <soundray> blackvd, great.
[08:31] <blackvd> not sure yet
[08:31] <OMFGFTS> As of every one of the last _3_ times I've installed Ubuntu it has a) failed to boot Ubuntu b)failed to boot WinXP _from the menu_.
[08:31] <blackvd> casues the prob I'm having is when I log out then in
[08:31] <OMFGFTS> <- not my first linux distro.
[08:31] <blackvd> *cause
[08:31] <blackvd> reverts back to 1280 instead of 1024
[08:31] <Determinist> OMFGFTS, most of the time it's winxp corrupting grub, btw... had that problem myself. had to do something with the way winxp expects partitions to be managed
[08:31] <soundray> blackvd, that is where the command above comes in:
[08:32] <OMFGFTS> Determinist, I know what you mean.
[08:32] <ubuntu> hello
[08:32] <soundray> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:32] <ubuntu> what is the password for an ubuntu live cd distribution?
[08:32] <nickel> how do i enable my sshd ?
[08:32] <Determinist> clear
[08:32] <ubuntu> i ask for the default root password
[08:32] <Determinist> erm
[08:32] <nickel> im a noob and i cant figure out how
[08:32] <blackvd> yeah I edited my xorg.conf file manually but it didnt help me out
[08:32] <soundray> !tell ubuntu about root
[08:32] <traaks> nickel: /etc/init.d/ssh start
[08:33] <soundray> blackvd: Could you paste your xorg.conf to pastebin pls
[08:33] <zdennis_> hey all
[08:33] <eriksti> hey, I'm getting FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper, operation not permitted, when I try to do "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper".. anyone familiar with the problem?
[08:33] <zdennis_> i am trying to mount my usb flash drive
[08:33] <nickel> im in the GUI and cant find the terminal ;x
[08:33] <zdennis_> but i do not have a /dev/sda  or /dev/sd*  anything
[08:34] <blackvd> how do you do that?
[08:34] <zdennis_> any idears?
[08:34] <nickel> Applications > System Tools
[08:34] <nickel> theres no terminal
[08:34] <soundray> !tell blackvd about pastebin
[08:34] <trappist> nickel: sudo modprobe usb-storage
[08:34] <soundray> blackvd: you should get a message from ubotu
[08:34] <trappist> zdennis_: actually, first of all, are you running a homebrew kernel or an ubuntu kernel?
[08:34] <traaks> nickel: applications-> accessories->terminal
[08:34] <zdennis_> trappist ubuntu kernel
[08:35] <blackvd> nope, but I'm using a terminal irc client right now
[08:35] <nickel> found it thanks traaks
[08:35] <blackvd> I can switch to xchat
[08:35] <trappist> zdennis_: also run dmesg and see if there's anything interesting near the end
[08:35] <nickel> if i install software via terminal, will it have a GUI to it?
[08:35] <zdennis_> trappist,   "[4304239.605000]  scsi: unknown opcode 0x01
[08:35] <zdennis_> "
[08:35] <zdennis_> does that count as interesting?
[08:36] <soundray> blackvd: you can paste stuff via http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl and quote the url here.
[08:36] <trappist> not by itself, at least to me
[08:36] <CarlFK> nickel: yes.
[08:36] <blackvd> ok
[08:36] <adri_> im installing the updates
[08:36] <adri_> man that takes forever
[08:36] <zdennis_> i get a bunch of ohci1394 timeouts from dmesg to
[08:36] <CarlFK> nickel:, well, maybe.  how you install it does not effect what gets installed.
[08:37] <blackvd> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4370
[08:37] <nickel> /etc/init.d/ssh doesnt exist
[08:37] <nickel> how can i install an sshd so i can access this comp remotely from a shell
[08:37] <nalioth> nickel: apt-get install ssh
[08:37] <nickel> sorry about all the questoins, im new to linux and am hoping to learn ;] 
[08:37] <CarlFK> nickel: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:38] <trappist> bah.
[08:38] <trappist> nickel: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:38] <ddc> how can i make a initrd for my kernel because I get kernel panic when trying to boot --> not syncing:vfs:unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[08:38] <trappist> ddc: I can't wait to hear the answer to your question.
[08:38] <trappist> I've asked it here before.
[08:38] <nickel> is there a website with a list of things i can APT-GET ?
[08:38] <ddc> I think that is has sonething to do with, not certain
[08:38] <ddc> ah ok, lets hope someone knows it :D
[08:39] <nickel> i can APT-GET apache w/ php im presuming
[08:39] <nalioth> nickel: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:39] <nickel> thx nalioth
[08:39] <nalioth> nickel: or use synaptic
[08:39] <CarlFK> nickel: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[08:39] <runedude3> nickel: yes, do apt-get install php5 (or php4) to instlal the php + apache webserver
[08:39] <ddc> maybe i just recompile my kernel using the make-kpkg because there is a initrd option
[08:39] <trappist> ddc: ubuntu lacks a call to mkinitrd in its kernel building script
[08:40] <marlun> When adding options to commands is the "-" not required?
[08:40] <trappist> marlun: depends on the command
[08:40] <runedude3> marlun: what command?
[08:41] <trappist> marlun: with tar, - is optional and not recommended, for example
[08:41] <marlun> hehe
[08:41] <CarlFK> trying to replace a Win server that does file and fax with a Linux box.  samba will take care of the file server.  any recomendations on how to replace the fax server part so that windows clients can "Print to fax"
[08:41] <marlun> thats the command in the example I saw it on and started to wonder.
[08:41] <nickel> whats the difference between all these packages - theres warty, hoary, breezy
[08:41] <soundray> blackvd: you are using this xorg.conf, and you're still getting 1280x1024?
[08:42] <nickel> how do i know which list to look through, im using ubuntu 5.10
[08:42] <runedude3> yea, - would input data from stdin or something, but generally commands will run w/o - stuff.
[08:42] <trappist> marlun: - is specific to GNU tar and is not POSIX compliant.  don't get in the habit of using the - or you'll find yourself on a bsd or solaris box and wonder why stuff doesn't work.
[08:42] <blackvd> um how do I know if I'm using it or not?
[08:42] <blackvd> should always use it right?
[08:42] <bluehead> :o
[08:43] <soundray> blackvd: is X running right now?
[08:43] <marlun> trappist, oh, but on the normal commands like ls, rm, etc I should/have to use it?
[08:43] <blackvd> isnt it always?
[08:43] <trappist> marlun: yep
[08:43] <trappist> marlun: and with other commands like ps, sometimes you use a - and sometimes you don't
[08:43] <duke3z> Hi Have video ??  have gforce card,  should i use IA32 driver or IA64??
[08:44] <duke3z> on Ubuntu
[08:44] <marlun> trappist, hehe okey
[08:44] <soundray> blackvd, no, but don't worry. if you do a 'ls -lrt /var/log/X*log', how many lines do you get?
[08:44] <runedude3> duke3z: one should be for 32bit, one should be efor 64bit, what bit are you using (if you dont know choose 32)
[08:44] <Nytryx> will ubuntu run with 96mb of ram lol
[08:44] <trappist> duke3z: you'd probably know if you needed IA64 - unless you have a 64 bit box, get IA32
[08:44] <runedude3> Nytryx: yes.
[08:44] <runedude3> It should.
[08:44] <soundray> soundray *lines of output
[08:44] <Nytryx> just extreamly slow?
[08:44] <runedude3> Nytryx: naw, shouldnt be really.. i mean it wouldnt run as well, just make sure you have a good amount of swap
[08:44] <duke3z> rundude, thnaks  have amd64 processors but standard ubuntu
[08:45] <trappist> Nytryx: if you use a lightweight window manager it should run pretty nicely
[08:45] <Nytryx> humm
[08:45] <trappist> duke3z: IA32 then
[08:45] <Nytryx> thank you
[08:45] <runedude3> duke3z: amd64 is a different platform (supports the intel and amd 64bit arch)
[08:45] <duke3z> kewl thanks alot guys.
[08:45] <runedude3> yw
[08:45] <blackvd> 2
[08:45] <duke3z> i got cedega working and Cod installed :)
[08:45] <bluehead> Hi! totem can't play mpeg movies! Wich packet should I install?
[08:45] <runedude3> nice
[08:46] <runedude3> Anyone suggest any programs for downloading from mms streams? :-)
[08:46] <cute_bettong> hey is anyone here an irssi guru
[08:46] <runedude3> cute_bettong: sure, i can try to help you. whats up?
[08:47] <Secreth`X> If you need to install a .deb package you need to do dpkg -i name, right?
[08:47] <cute_bettong> ok i am haveing problems with colours and auto identifying and connecting
[08:47] <cute_bettong> i am a first time user
[08:47] <runedude3> Secreth`X: affirmative.
[08:47] <CarlFK> runedude3: dl as in save, or play?
[08:47] <Secreth`X> runedude, kthx
[08:47] <runedude3> CarlFK: Save.
[08:47] <cute_bettong> and the www.irssi.org is kinda confusing
[08:47] <CarlFK> runedude3: mplayer -dumpstreem
[08:47] <bluehead>  Hi! totem can't play mpeg movies! Which packet should I install?
[08:48] <runedude3> cute_bettong: hm.. colours.. make sure your shell type supports colours, /connect would "connect" to the server (allows multiple servers)
[08:48] <CarlFK> runedude3: I have heard of streamrip or streamripper - I think I even used it once
[08:48] <runedude3> as for auto identify, i dont know
[08:48] <blackvd> bluehead why not use mplayer or vlc?
[08:48] <runedude3> CarlFK: hm.. ill try that.
[08:48] <soundray> blackvd: do they have Xorg or XFree in them?
[08:48] <runedude3> thanks
[08:48] <blackvd> Xorg
[08:49] <bluehead> blackvd I'll try thanx
[08:49] <Knowerrors> Hey all, Firefox stopped working for me, where can I find the log that would show errors for it?
[08:49] <cute_bettong> this irssi is really neat
[08:49] <trappist> Knowerrors: afaik firefox doesn't log.  I might be able to help further, but the fact that it's not working is insufficient information.
[08:50] <trappist> <3 irssi
[08:50] <cute_bettong> it's the first time i am useing it but it's kinda confusing to set uo and stuff
[08:50] <trappist> cute_bettong: it takes some time to get set up just right, but it'll all be worth it in the chatting years to come
[08:50] <runedude3> Knowerrors: try dmesg
[08:50] <TestDummy> Er, I've been trying to compile X-Chat 2.6.0 (I'd rather not stick with the outdated default), installed build-essential, grabbed the source, but it won't even work.
[08:50] <runedude3> hmm uh oh
[08:50] <TestDummy> Why must compiling be such a pain?
[08:50] <Knowerrors> trappist: I click on the Firefox icon, and icon blinks like its starting up, then nothing, no FF window
[08:51] <runedude3> i keep getting this message every once in awhile "ldconfig: /lib/libXext.so.6 is not a symbolic link"
[08:51] <runedude3> TestDummy: use *.deb files, dont compile :-)
[08:51] <Agrajag> TestDummy: did you also get all of the development packages that xchat needs?
[08:51] <soundray> blackvd: Could you paste the contents of Xorg.0.log to pastebin.
[08:51] <trappist> Knowerrors: sudo killall firefox-bin on the command line.  there's probably a busticated instance still running.
[08:51] <TestDummy> Sure.
[08:51] <blackvd> ok
[08:51] <trappist> Knowerrors: if that doesn't work, run mozilla-firefox from the command line and see if you get errors there.
[08:51] <TestDummy> The configure step goes by just fine.
[08:51] <nickel> theres different types of packages, warty, hoary and stuff -- im on ubuntu 5.10 which packages best suit my version of ubuntu
[08:51] <TestDummy> But make just dies instantly with errors.
[08:51] <nickel> ;x
[08:52] <trappist> runedude3: you can ignore that
[08:52] <runedude3> trappist: yes, but whats it about?
[08:52] <TestDummy> And I wasn't too aware they had a .deb for it, haven't bothered to look.
[08:52] <bluehead> well, in my respositories doesnt figure mplayer
[08:52] <trappist> runedude3: it expects that lib to be a symlink to another file, but it's the file itself, and ld is a little surprised.
[08:52] <runedude3> ah
[08:52] <runedude3> alright
[08:52] <runedude3> ty
[08:53] <TestDummy> Hm, didn't they switch to GCC 4.0 or something in Breezy?
[08:53] <Agrajag> yes
[08:53] <Agrajag> Did you try gcc3.4?
[08:53] <Knowerrors> mozilla-firefox INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory? System error?:: Success
[08:53] <Agrajag> it's still available as a separate package
[08:53] <ryanpg> hi all... two questions, 1) is xorg RC1 or RC2 in dapper and 2) if so can those packages be used with breezy?
[08:53] <TestDummy> Well, I don't know what's up. I'd actually prefer get compiling to work.
[08:53] <TestDummy> (Because there are other things I use that don't have a packaged alternative)
[08:53] <blackvd> says a whole lot, any particular lines to copy & paste
[08:54] <Agrajag> ok, so, try gcc3.4
[08:54] <trappist> Knowerrors: haha never seen that one.  I have no idea.  you might try #firefox on irc.mozilla.org
[08:54] <blackvd> bluehead go with vlc it plays bin/cue files!
[08:54] <trappist> TestDummy: what sort of errors
[08:54] <Knowerrors> only thing Ive changed since it was working, is installed the java-mozilla plugin
[08:54] <trappist> Knowerrors: try deleting the plugin
[08:54] <cute_bettong> yea i like this irssi it dosen't give you crap to play with
[08:54] <cute_bettong> and you can seemingly tweak what you want
[08:54] <trappist> Knowerrors: it would be in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[08:55] <adjacent> anyone else have a p[roblem with some flash objects freezing at 1 sec? things like google video are useless. what could this be?
[08:55] <TestDummy> I would remove it if it didn't want to take the whole system down with it!
[08:55] <soundray> blackvd, no point skimping, that's what pastebin is for.
[08:55] <bluehead> Ough! can you post here some repositories, I have vlc, but it seems that not all the dependencies
[08:55] <Agrajag> TestDummy: remove what?
[08:55] <cute_bettong> now i just have to figure out what to type to close windows i don't need
[08:55] <TestDummy> trappist: Says stuff like "error 1" and "error 2" after entering directories.
[08:55] <trappist> adjacent: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:55] <zepeuga> whats the package to install streamer to play mp3 ?!
[08:56] <trappist> TestDummy: try the pastebin (topic)
[08:56] <runedude3> cute_bettong: /window close
[08:56] <trappist> cute_bettong: or /win close
[08:56] <Agrajag> or /win close <number>
[08:56] <cute_bettong> and change the font colour for the people that say my name it's an ugly harsh yellow >.<
[08:56] <adjacent> trappist: i have it
[08:56] <blackvd> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4371
[08:57] <TestDummy> Gah..
[08:57] <adjacent> ii  flashplugin-nonfree                   7.0.25-5                             Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer
[08:57] <adjacent> rc  libflash0                             0.4.11-2                             GPL Flash (SWF) Library - shared library
[08:57] <ryanpg> hmm... perhaps if I rephrase my question: is anyone here running xorg RC1 or RC2 on breezy and if so how?
[08:57] <TestDummy> I can't even see half the topic, it's so long.
[08:57] <liz4rd> bluefrog-10!
[08:57] <trappist> TestDummy: /topic
[08:57] <bluefrog-10> liz4rd, crossed fingers worked?
[08:57] <liz4rd> bluefrog-10, no
[08:57] <bluefrog-10> ah sad
[08:57] <liz4rd> go to our own window
[08:57] <zepeuga> whats the package to install streamer to play mp3 ?!
[08:58] <CzarAlex> what are some interesting things I can install on my ubuntu based webserver that use mysql/php?
[08:58] <TestDummy> Bleh, this isn't working out.
[08:58] <liz4rd> bluefrog-10, why do i have to modprobe?
[08:58] <ashtonium> CzarAlex: check out Drupal
[08:58] <Draucon> anyone still having the gpg error when doing apt-get update
[08:58] <bluehead> Hi! can yu give me some repositories form the vlc and its dependencies?
[08:58] <bluefrog-10> to load nvidia driver otherwise u need to reboot
[08:58] <Knowerrors> trappist: I found this in an ubu wiki on firefox "This was due to a wrong java plugin link."
[08:58] <TestDummy> Besides me flodding some place with silly error messags, any other ideas?
[08:59] <liz4rd> bluefrog-10, should i reboot?
[08:59] <runedude3> CzarAlex: www.hotscripts.com or www.sf.net -- search for stuff there, have fun, a starter would be phpsysinfo (http://phpsysinfo.sf.net)
[08:59] <joshholt> I have been trying to get Xdmcp to work on Kubuntu but I can't find the "Xservers" file that is usually in "/etc/kde3/kdm/" to get rid of the line that starts the X server with "--nolisten tcp"
[08:59] <cute_bettong> linux= rebooting is for adding hardware
[08:59] <bluefrog-10> liz4rd, try if still not good go back to #liz4rd
[08:59] <adjacent> CzarAlex: cacti - www.cacti.net
[08:59] <CzarAlex> Draucon, thanks. im checking the site out now.
[08:59] <blackvd> bluehead dont they have a new .deb package on videolan.org?
[08:59] <Agrajag> TestDummy: Did you try using gcc34.?
[08:59] <ryanpg> hmm... three times the charm (and my limit for now) is there an IRC channel/web site/repository with information about installing xorg RC1/RC2 that someone could offer me?
[08:59] <CzarAlex> runedude3, thanks, I`ll visit the site.
[08:59] <Agrajag> a lot of stuff just doesn't work well with gcc4 yet
[08:59] <runedude3> CzarAlex: yw
[08:59] <TestDummy> I would be if removing Gcc40 whatever didn't try and remove every program.
[09:00] <CzarAlex> adjacent, thank you.
[09:00] <Agrajag> Why would you want to remove gcc4?
[09:00] <Agrajag> install gcc3.4
[09:00] <TestDummy> Because I'd assume they would conflict?
[09:00] <kbrooks> gcc* can be installed concurrently
[09:00] <Agrajag> and tell configure/make to use /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 as your compiler
[09:00] <Agrajag> TestDummy: no...
[09:00] <kbrooks> TestDummy:
[09:00] <kbrooks> gcc* can be installed concurrently
[09:00] <bluehead> blackvd I'll look for it, I have vlc in synaptic but some dependencies fail :S
[09:00] <n0odl3> i have a question... why does the GAIM login screen pop up as soon as i log in?
[09:00] <Agrajag> usually all you really have to do is something like CC=/usr/bingcc-3.4 make
[09:01] <Agrajag> er
[09:01] <kbrooks> Agrajag: /
[09:01] <Agrajag> usually all you really have to do is something like CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 make
[09:01] <Agrajag> yeah
[09:01] <ashtonium> ok, trying to install nvidia display drivers... how do i shut down the xserver?
[09:01] <n0odl3> this only occurs in xfce
[09:01] <Agrajag> lay off, this keyboard blows
[09:01] <PJeremy> does anyone know a n64 emulator as good as project64?
[09:01] <bluefrog-10> TestDummy, if you need to compile with gcc lower then 4 u need to export the other gcc
[09:01] <TestDummy> ?
[09:01] <blackvd> bluehead: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[09:02] <n0odl3> does anyone know
[09:02] <TestDummy> Same old stuff.
[09:02] <bluefrog-10> TestDummy,  export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[09:02] <soundray> blackvd: you need to disable tiling mode. I'm sure there is an option, but I don't know what it is.
[09:02] <bluefrog-10> or whatever gcc u have
[09:02] <Agrajag> TestDummy: also, check the Makefile, CC might be set there, and you can change it
[09:02] <trappist> or use update-alternatives
[09:02] <ryanpg> grr... I'll ask again later I guess, hopefully someone "in the know" will be around ;)
[09:02] <TestDummy> This isn't working.
[09:02] <blackvd> in my xorg.conf?
[09:02] <bluehead> blackvd thanks! yhuuu
[09:03] <Aleks> yo
[09:03] <blackvd> np
[09:03] <Aleks> how can i get access to my windows partitions?
[09:03] <Knowerrors> trappist: which ns file should I link to in the /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/i386/ ?
[09:03] <Aleks> #reg
[09:03] <Aleks> !ref
[09:03] <ubotu> Aleks: Wish i knew
[09:03] <Aleks> !reg
[09:03] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Aleks
[09:04] <TestDummy> Not seeing much about GCC in the makefile.
[09:04] <TestDummy> But, then again, I really have no clue what I'm looking for.
[09:04] <ashtonium> i can see my NTFS windows drive, but ubuntu says its "inacessible"
[09:04] <Agrajag> You're looking for where it sets the value of CC
[09:04] <trappist> Knowerrors: libjavaplugin_oji.so
[09:05] <TestDummy> Just says: "CC = @CC@"
[09:05] <Aleks> Any one here who know how i can access my fucking windows partitions from ubuntu breezy?
[09:05] <Agrajag> well change that to /usr/bin/gcc3.4
[09:05] <Agrajag> er
[09:05] <Agrajag> /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[09:05] <Knowerrors> theres one in ns610 and one in ns610-gcc32, which one?
[09:06] <TestDummy> Does it have to have @ surrounding it?
[09:06] <Agrajag> no
[09:06] <soundray> blackvd: try adding a line "Virtual 1024 768" to the Device section of your xorg.conf
[09:06] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to stop GAIM from automatically starting in xfce?
[09:06] <adri_> can ubuntu be used as server
[09:06] <Myrtti> /me takes a large hammer and tries to fix gdesklets.
[09:06] <bluefrog-10> aleks, because u don't talk nice to them...
[09:07] <bluehead> blackvd I've put de repositories in sources.list but it ignores them! Its because it is sarge and i have ubuntu? what can i do?
[09:07] <adri_> Myrtti: what's wrong?
[09:07] <ashtonium> adri: install with the command "server"
[09:07] <adri_> O M G
[09:07] <TestDummy> Make still doesn't work.
[09:07] <Myrtti> apparently it crashes all the time
[09:07] <Aleks> sorry then
[09:07] <adri_> I already frickin installed
[09:07] <adri_> it's installing updates
[09:07] <bluefrog-10> adri_, just use it as a server from there
[09:07] <adri_> what's the difference
[09:07] <ashtonium> thats ok, just wait and then blow it away
[09:08] <BlueEagle> adri_: Most likely security patches.
[09:08] <greenfrog-10> ah okay
[09:08] <Myrtti> now its running down there someplace and I can't kill it
[09:08] <Knowerrors> trappist: theres one in ns610 and one in ns610-gcc32, which one?
[09:08] <blank> :D
[09:08] <blank> nooo someone took my nick :'(
[09:08] <Agrajag> TestDummy: also, what dev packages did you install to compile this?
[09:08] <Myrtti> *smashsmash* with kill -9
[09:08] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to fix my problem?
[09:08] <Aleks> but shall i have free disk space at my disk and a partition to ubuntu?
[09:08] <blank> Agrajag: Dev-cpp works in linux?
[09:08] <soundray> blackvd, then restart your display manager
[09:08] <soundray> Aleks, language
[09:08] <TestDummy> Just the dev for GTK to work with it.
[09:08] <Agrajag> just because configure finishes doesn't mean the program will build
[09:08] <Aleks> norwegian
[09:08] <Agrajag> blank: what?
[09:08] <trappist> Knowerrors: oh - I'm not sure.  probably the gcc32 one.
[09:08] <ashtonium> it doens't install the GUI
[09:08] <TestDummy> That's all I needed last time I compiled it.
[09:08] <Agrajag> TestDummy: what about perl?
[09:08] <ashtonium> or rather, only minial GUI
[09:08] <Aleks> soundray, norwegian
[09:09] <TestDummy> I don't know Perl.
[09:09] <Agrajag> that doesn't matter
[09:09] <n0odl3> does anyone know?
[09:09] <TestDummy> I don't use Perl scripts either.
[09:09] <Agrajag> That doesn't matter.
[09:10] <Agrajag> If you just ran through configure, it'll try to build the perl plugin
[09:10] <TestDummy> I didn't install the dev for it last time, and it still worked.
[09:10] <soundray> Aleks: it was an admonition. What filesystem type do you use in f...ing Windows?
[09:10] <Aleks> soundray, NTFS
[09:10] <Agrajag> ok, I'm running through the build right now
[09:10] <adjacent> n0odl3: gaim is in your gnome session
[09:10] <Agrajag> and it failed
[09:10] <Agrajag> I'm going to install perl-dev
[09:10] <adjacent> n0odl3: or in your start up list
[09:10] <Aleks> soundray, I have 2 partitions in NTFS
[09:10] <Agrajag> or not
[09:10] <Agrajag> hm, what's the package name
[09:10] <Aleks> soundray, and one i EXT.....
[09:10] <adjacent> n0odl3: use System->Prefs->Sessions
[09:10] <soundray> !tell Aleks about ntfs
[09:11] <Aleks> soundray, but must i have free space too?
[09:11] <soundray> Aleks, I think ubotu will send you a knowledgeable message.
[09:11] <Agrajag> ah, libperl-dev
[09:11] <rob^^^> is ntpdate the best method for setting up auto sync of the clock?
[09:11] <rob^^^> it doesn't seem to place any crontab entries
[09:11] <soundray> Aleks, no you don't need free space if you have all the OS's you want on your system.
[09:12] <soundray> blackvd, does it work now?
[09:12] <adjacent> rob^^^: ntpdata is usally run during the boot sequence
[09:12] <nickrud> rob^^^, ntp-simple is good for workstations
[09:12] <blackvd> oh sorry havent tried yet
[09:12] <n0odl3> adjacent: so i hae to turn it of in gnome so it wont start up in xfce?
[09:13] <rob^^^> nickrud: that wants to install ntp-server as well
[09:13] <n0odl3> adjacent: but this ONLY happens in xfce... when i use OPENBOX it doesnt start up automatically
[09:13] <blackvd> so are you saying add virtual in front of the "1024 768" in the mode line
[09:13] <rob^^^> my clock has wandered like 20 minutes in 179 days
[09:13] <adjacent> well. specifying your WM would have been a better way to find some help. how are we supposed to know you arent in gnome?
[09:13] <Nytryx> ok now im really pissed!
[09:14] <blackvd> bluehead are you using synaptic?
[09:14] <Nytryx> i downloaded the breezy and i still get cant find package whin i try to install xfce
[09:14] <soundray> blackvd: no, add an extra line in Section "Device"
[09:14] <Razor-X> does anyone have any ideas why xsel seems to work in a term but not when i'm telling ratpoison to execute a script that should work?
[09:14] <n0odl3> adjacent:?
[09:14] <huttan> Hello, I just installed ubuntu breezy and it seems impossible to get it to detect my netgear wg511t card, I have installed the correct package for madwifi drivers, but still there is no sign of it, does anybody know how to fix this?
[09:14] <Nytryx> WTF amd i doing wrong?
[09:14] <bluehead> blackvd yes
[09:14] <bluehead> then I tried to do what at videolan say
[09:14] <soundray> blackvd, under Driver "i810",
[09:14] <Razor-X> the script works (it has xsel in it) if I call it from a term, but in ratpoison, it simply clears the primary clip buffer
[09:14] <TestDummy> Well, looks like adding that Perl dev didn't do anything.
[09:14] <huttan> My friend did the exact same thing on his laptop 1 hour ago and he found it instantly, but on my laptop it won't work
[09:15] <nickrud> rob^^^, it's a pretty lightweight version; you could also look at chrony, or creating your own crontab entry :)
[09:15] <bluehead> apt-get update
[09:15] <esters> hi there
[09:15] <bluehead> but
[09:15] <rob^^^> nickrud: well chrony wants to remove ubuntu-base
[09:15] <soundray> blackvd it should say "Virtual 1024 768" without any quotes.
[09:15] <esters> i have an serious problem
[09:15] <esters> could you help me
[09:15] <bluehead> throws Ign http://download.videolan.org sarge/main Packages
[09:15] <bluehead> Ign http://download.videolan.org sarge/main Sources
[09:15] <esters> /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440
[09:15] <esters> how do i fix it ?
[09:15] <esters> please anyone
[09:16] <WildZeck> esters,
[09:16] <soundray> esters: sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers ?
[09:16] <trappist> esters: sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[09:16] <bluehead> and then I search for vlc and it can't find it
[09:16] <WildZeck> sudo chmod 0440 /etc/suduers
[09:16] <esters> ou
[09:16] <trappist> esters: wtf did you do to make sudoers 777
[09:16] <esters> :)
[09:16] <WildZeck> esters, sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[09:16] <esters> permmision change
[09:16] <blackvd> soundray: so like this; Driver"i810" Virtual 1024 768
[09:16] <trappist> esters: tell me you didn't do it recursively on /etc
[09:17] <nickrud> rob^^^, I didn't realize chrony conflicted with ntpdate. I'm not sure why.
[09:17] <trappist> if so your life is forfeit
[09:17] <soundray> blackvd: Except that you want an extra line for it.
[09:17] <Knowerrors> trappist... fixed it by changing the java plugin link
[09:17] <rob^^^> nickrud: well I added my crontab entry ;)
[09:17] <trappist> Knowerrors: cool
[09:17] <Nytryx> you know what fuck it and fuck this irc
[09:17] <blank> is there anything like visual studio on linux, besides eclipse
[09:17] <huttan> Hello, I just installed ubuntu breezy and it seems impossible to get it to detect my netgear wg511t card, I have installed the correct package for madwifi drivers, but still there is no sign of it, does anybody know how to fix this? My friend did the exact same thing on his laptop 1 hour ago and he found it instantly, but on my laptop it won't work
[09:17] <delire> ..
[09:18] <Aleks> aleks@AlX-Ubuntu:~$ chmod u+x winmac_fstab
[09:18] <Aleks> aleks@AlX-Ubuntu:~$ sudo ./winmac_fstab
[09:18] <Aleks> By default the disks will be writable only by root and
[09:18] <Aleks> Aleksander Insteb (aleks)
[09:18] <Aleks> Do you want to make the disk writable by all users instead? (y/n)
[09:18] <Aleks> y
[09:18] <Aleks> error: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_8_1
[09:18] <Aleks> Ignoring /dev/sda1 - already in /etc/fstab
[09:18] <Aleks> error: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_8_3
[09:18] <blank> USE PASTEBIN
[09:18] <Aleks> Ignoring /dev/sda3 - already in /etc/fstab
[09:18] <blackvd> ok the only way to test it is to logg out then in again
[09:18] <trappist> Aleks: don't paste here
[09:18] <soundray> Oh Nytryx, the sound of frustration...
[09:18] <Aleks> No usable windows/mac partitions found
[09:18] <blank> SHUTUP
[09:18] <blank> SHUTUP
[09:18] <Aleks> Any who can help me?
[09:18] <Aleks> oh, sorry
[09:18] <blank> no, until you use pastebin
[09:18] <Aleks> i'm new here...
[09:18] <blank> !ubotu pastebin
[09:18] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:18] <blank> do what ubotu says
[09:19] <blank> he's the master
[09:19] <rob^^^> obey the bot!
[09:19] <soundray> blackvd, you could start a separate X server for testing from a console.
[09:19] <blackvd> bluehead: in synaptic>settings>repositories everything xed
[09:19] <TestDummy> Bleh, no luck at all with this compile.
[09:19] <TestDummy> Forget it..
[09:19] <blackvd> soundray: hows that?
[09:19] <blank> aleks, post your stuff in pastebin, then give us the link it gives you :)
[09:19] <blackvd> soundray: jump out with ctrl+alt+F1?
[09:20] <blackvd> then startfluxbox?
[09:20] <soundray> blackvd: Hit Ctrl Alt F1, login with your username and pass, and enter 'sudo X :1'
[09:20] <Secreth`X> hrm
[09:20] <slibs> anyone got nvclock 0.8b running with breezy?
[09:20] <blackvd> ah
[09:20] <Razor-X> nevermind, I fot my script working
[09:20] <Razor-X> *got
[09:20] <trappist> sudo?
[09:20] <slibs> i can't get gtk enabled with nvclock
[09:20] <Secreth`X> when I kill 1 apache2 processes, there are 2 new..
[09:20] <soundray> blackvd, then kill the X server with CtrlAlt Backspace...
[09:20] <NoMoXp> hello
[09:20] <trappist> blackvd: no need to run X as root.  just startx -- :1
[09:20] <Secreth`X> How can I stop them from coming?
[09:21] <bluehead> blackvd everything xed? sorry what does this mean?
[09:21] <NoMoXp> I have switched from XP on 3 of my 4 compu ters
[09:21] <soundray> blackvd, except you won't know for sure about the ...
[09:21] <soundray> thanks trappist...
[09:21] <NoMoXp> there is one product I have not found on Linux
[09:21] <NoMoXp> I am wondering if you can help me
[09:21] <delire> Secreth`X: sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop
[09:21] <Secreth`X> delire, tried that
[09:21] <delire> Secreth`X: or 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop' in your case..
[09:21] <NoMoXp> I need something comparable to microsoft Visual Studio?
[09:21] <Razor-X> NoMoXp: mmmm, that depends
[09:21] <trappist> NoMoXp: kdevelop
[09:21] <delire> Secreth`X: strange.. try 'sudo killall apache2'
[09:21] <Secreth`X> k
[09:22] <NoMoXp> Kdevelope?
[09:22] <Razor-X> NoMoXp: do you want an IDE, or do you just want the programming language?
[09:22] <soundray> NoMoXp: an integrated development environment? emacs.
[09:22] <trappist> no.  kdevelop.
[09:22] <Aleks> !ubotu pastebin aleks@AlX-Ubuntu:~$ chmod u+x winmac_fstab
[09:22] <Aleks> aleks@AlX-Ubuntu:~$ sudo ./winmac_fstab
[09:22] <Aleks> By default the disks will be writable only by root and
[09:22] <Aleks> Aleksander Insteb (aleks)
[09:22] <Aleks> Do you want to make the disk writable by all users instead? (y/n)
[09:22] <ubotu> Aleks: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:22] <Aleks> y
[09:22] <Aleks> error: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_8_1
[09:22] <NoMoXp> doeI want hte environment
[09:22] <Aleks> Ignoring /dev/sda1 - already in /etc/fstab
[09:22] <NoMoXp> shit
[09:22] <Aleks> error: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_8_3
[09:22] <blackvd> bluehead: sorry is everyhting in there marked?
[09:22] <NoMoXp> sorry
[09:22] <Razor-X> Aleks: no pasting here
[09:22] <Aleks> Ignoring /dev/sda3 - already in /etc/fstab
[09:22] <NoMoXp> I want the environment
[09:22] <Aleks> No usable windows/mac partitions found
[09:22] <Aleks> oh
[09:22] <trappist> Aleks: you were told not to paste here.
[09:22] <Aleks> shit
[09:22] <blackvd> *everything
[09:22] <Aleks> sorry, i tried the pastebin
[09:22] <Aleks> how to use it?
[09:22] <Razor-X> NoMoXp: oh, so you just want to program?
[09:22] <Razor-X> Aleks: if you can't use pastebin, try #flood
[09:22] <Secreth`X> thanks delire
[09:22] <NoMoXp> yes
[09:22] <NoMoXp> I like the drag and drop widget sets
[09:22] <Aleks> #flood
[09:22] <Razor-X> NoMoXp: oh, now that's easy
[09:23] <NoMoXp> Razor X what do you reccomend?
[09:23] <Razor-X> Aleks: #flood allows you to paste multiple lines, just tell the person you're working with to look at #flood
[09:23] <bluehead> blackdv if you are refering to the options in repositories settings, not
[09:23] <Aleks> !ubotu pastebin
[09:23] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:23] <Razor-X> NoMoXp: just about every UNIX distribution uses gcc
[09:23] <Razor-X> NoMoXp: the standard C compiler
[09:23] <Secreth`X> delire, what is in your opinion the best apache? 2 or 1.3.33?
[09:24] <Razor-X> NoMoXp: you can also use it (or rather it's variation g++) to program in C++
[09:24] <dnB> can anyone help me out with doing a network install of ubuntu? i attemped to do "apt-get install tftpd-hpa apache2 dhcp3-server" but i got 'fail' when trying to start DHCP server
[09:24] <joshholt> anyone know about kxmcp on kubuntu....
[09:24] <Aleks> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4373
[09:24] <blackvd> bluehead: was just asking what sources you had in there and if all of them were checked
[09:24] <Aleks> Any who can help me?
[09:24] <joshholt> I'm trying to get LTSP to work
[09:24] <Razor-X> you also have implementations of Python, Ruby, Perl, PHP, SQL, and any other language you can imagine
[09:24] <Razor-X> save Visual Basic
[09:24] <blank> !uobutu repos
[09:24] <ubotu> blank: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:24] <bluehead> blackdv ok, all the sources are there but i have no idea of how to chek them
[09:24] <NoMoXp> so emacs would be the best?
[09:24] <blank> !ubotu repos
[09:24] <joshholt> but I can't find the setting that starts X with --nolisten tcp
[09:24] <Secreth`X> zomg whats wrong with firefox, its open for only 30 minutes and is using 145MB of memory :S
[09:24] <delire> Secreth`X: 1.3.33 suits me fine for most purposes.
[09:25] <Secreth`X> ok delire
[09:25] <Razor-X> NoMoXp: emacs is a programming environment, it's basically a text editor IDE
[09:25] <delire> Secreth`X: i've just never found a good enough reason to move to 2
[09:25] <Razor-X> NoMoXp: it's my own text editor of choice, but if you're *just* looking for a compiler, you have no need of emacs
[09:25] <bluefrog-10> joshholt, there's no XDCMP section in /etc/kdm/kdm.conf?
[09:25] <Razor-X> NoMoXp: although emacs will make the developmetn process much smoother
[09:25] <Secreth`X> delire, I never used apache1.3 before so I wouldn't know the difference
[09:25] <Razor-X> *development
[09:26] <soundray> NoMoXp, it was a half serious suggestion. emacs is great if you;ve grown up with it.
[09:26] <bluefrog-10> joshholt, XDMCP sry
[09:26] <soundray> *you've
[09:26] <blackvd> soundray: no screen found also virtual isnt a keyword
[09:26] <Razor-X> soundray: i'm 15, I started on vi, and I switched to emacs :)
[09:26] <huttan> I just installed ubuntu breezy and it seems impossible to get it to detect my netgear wg511t card, I have installed the correct package for madwifi drivers, but still there is no sign of it, does anybody know how to fix this? My friend did the exact same thing on his laptop 1 hour ago and he found it instantly, but on my laptop it won't work
[09:26] <NoMoXp> well I grew up with Visual Studio and visual basic
[09:26] <blank> tell ubotu to tell me about restricted formats
[09:26] <bluehead> blackdv i have two recent new source, vlan ones, one for source, one for binary, they have de distribution field set to debian, and the section field set to main
[09:26] <joshholt> bluefrog- 10: yeah there is but I am looking for the Xservers file
[09:26] <joshholt> to remove this setting
[09:26] <NoMoXp> I am used to the ability to move code, as well as objects around dynamically
[09:26] <Razor-X> NoMoXp: then something like KDevelop will suit you best, although you shouldn't hesitate to check out vim, emacs, and joe
[09:26] <LasseL> Secreth`X, I have also heard good things about http://www.lighttpd.net/ -- seems less complex than apache
[09:27] <Razor-X> NoMoXp: personally, I prefer my emacs in a nice terminal window :)
[09:27] <NoMoXp> for Kdevelope I assume it has KDE dependencies?
[09:27] <Secreth`X> LasseL, neat, im gonna try it
[09:27] <Razor-X> NoMoXp: yes, unfortunately
[09:27] <bluefrog-10> joshholt, what's ur problem?
[09:27] <Razor-X> still, KDE apps to a few things pretty well
[09:27] <soundray> blackvd, too bad.
[09:27] <opnsrc> ubuntu doesn't allow me to login as root
[09:27] <opnsrc> when I installed, it has no such option
[09:27] <Aleks> Any one who can help me with mounting disks in ubuntu?
[09:27] <Razor-X> (I love KDVI, for example)
[09:27] <opnsrc> and it doesn't ask for a root pw
[09:27] <Razor-X> Aleks: shoot
[09:27] <opnsrc> is there a default one?
[09:27] <NoMoXp> Ok do you reccomend installing KDE on top of my ubuntu installlation, or installing Kubuntu on top of my ubuntu installation?
[09:27] <LasseL> opnsrc, sudo -s
[09:28] <Belutz_zzz> ubotu, tell opnsrc about sudo
[09:28] <Razor-X> NoMoXp: nopers, just install what you need
[09:28] <blank> i wished visual studio worked on linux
[09:28] <Razor-X> *shudders*
[09:28] <Razor-X> I can't stand Visual Studio, personally :)
[09:28] <delire> blank: ewww
[09:28] <soundray> blackvd: My mistake, it needs to go in a subsection of screen.
[09:28] <NoMoXp> ok, thanks guys, I have to run now
[09:28] <blank> SHUTUP
[09:28] <delire> blank: i look forward to never working with it again.
[09:28] <Razor-X> blank: :)
[09:28] <LasseL> !idewar
[09:28] <ubotu> LasseL: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:28] <NoMoXp> have a good one :)
[09:28] <soundray> blackvd: type man xorg.conf and search for virtual
[09:28] <sambagirl> something happened. my lauch things were at the top of th screen now they are HUGE and on the side, how can i restore to original?
[09:29] <blank> I'm tired of this crap, people that think that just working with things that are harder is better, if something like VS boosts up your productivity rate, then why is it bad
[09:29] <Razor-X> then again, you're talking to someone who uses ratpoison and emacs, so you've got to expect I don't like Visual Studio
[09:29] <Razor-X> blank: it works differently for other people
[09:29] <joshholt> bluefrog- 10:  The xserver starts up by default not listening to tcp ports.... I enabled xdmcp in the kdmrc
[09:29] <LasseL> blank, try eclipse
[09:29] <Razor-X> ooh, he left
[09:29] <joshholt> blusefrog- 10: but X still starts this way
[09:29] <delire> blank: many ex VC6/7 users enjoy KDevelop. http://kdevelop.org. you may too.
[09:30] <dnB> hurt his feelings.
[09:30] <dnB> can anyone help me out with doing a network install of ubuntu? i attemped to do "apt-get install tftpd-hpa apache2 dhcp3-server" but i got 'fail' when trying to start DHCP server
[09:30] <Aleks> i forgot to tell that it are SATA2 disks...
[09:30] <Razor-X> some people actually don't think graphically, I think he never knew that
[09:30] <dj47> brand new to linux and using kubuntu. Have trie Redhat Fedora Core 4 and they have a super filemanager which is like a konqueror with root privileges. Is there a similar deb package with such a file manager?
[09:30] <Secreth`X> LasseL, woah it is great!
[09:30] <Razor-X> Aleks: if English isn't your native language (just a suggestion), there are other channels that cater to different languages
[09:31] <Aleks> Razor-X, do you knew a norwegain?
[09:31] <LasseL> Secreth`X, you configured it already?!?
[09:31] <sambagirl> now i accidently removed email thing from panel.
[09:31] <Secreth`X> No
[09:31] <Razor-X> Aleks: not be, but there is a nerwegian chanel :)
[09:31] <Secreth`X> But I like it already :D
[09:31] <dnB> i cant get dhcp server to start :/ anyone recommend what i may want to check out?
[09:31] <delire> dj47: hmm a filemanager with root privileges sounds very dangerous to me ;)
[09:31] <Razor-X> Ale*me
[09:31] <Razor-X> errr
[09:31] <Razor-X> Aleks: *me
[09:31] <dj47> I know, but I like to live on the edge.. :)
[09:31] <sambagirl> blah i'll just reinstall ubuntu time no 5 chao
[09:32] <slibs> :D
[09:32] <Knowerrors> what is the purpose of "swf-player" package if Linux doesn't do Shockwave?
[09:32] <slibs> "aargh it doesn't work" "well just reinstall it"
[09:32] <Answer> What is the ubuntu equivalent to rc.local, where I can run some stuff as startup?
[09:32] <slibs> that goes with windows dammit!
[09:32] <Aleks> Razor-X, norwegian***
[09:32] <opnsrc> I tried sudo -s and it asks me for a pw
[09:32] <Razor-X> Aleks: try #ubuntu-no
[09:32] <Aleks> ok
[09:33] <Aleks> Razor-X, no..
[09:33] <slibs> Answer: if you get that answer tell me too ;)
[09:33] <Razor-X> Aleks: not norwegian? :(
[09:33] <Answer> What is the ubuntu equivalent to rc.local, where I can run some stuff as startup?
[09:33] <LasseL> sambagirl, don't reinstall b/c of that
[09:33] <Razor-X> !norwegian
[09:33] <ubotu> Razor-X: Are you smoking crack?
[09:33] <folki> hi all
[09:33] <Aleks> Razor-X, didn't work
[09:33] <Razor-X> stupid ubotu
[09:33] <delire> Answer: do you mean /etc/rc.* ? or /etc/init.d/*
[09:33] <LjL> opnsrc: that should usually be your user password?
[09:33] <blank> hello
[09:33] <Razor-X> Aleks: I meant to join the #ubutnu-no channel
[09:33] <blank> !ubotu repos
[09:33] <folki> I have just installed Ubuntu and I would know how to install some software. Can anybody help me?
[09:33] <Aleks> Razor-X, i tried..., didnt work
[09:34] <LasseL> sambagirl, rightclick the panel, select properties, adjust size and position from there
[09:34] <Razor-X> Aleks: odd...
[09:34] <Aleks> Razor-X, oh, write error :P
[09:34] <Razor-X> I see it in my channel list
[09:34] <Aleks> bye folkz
[09:34] <Razor-X> oh, meh
[09:34] <Answer> delire: on redhat it is /etc/rc.local, on gentoo it is /etc/conf.d/local.start
[09:34] <Stormx2> Hey!
[09:34] <Aleks> Razor-X, and tanks
[09:34] <LjL> Aleks: joining a channel didn't work? :o)
[09:34] <sambagirl> that does not work lassel
[09:34] <Aleks> Razor-X, bye
[09:34] <Razor-X> Aleks: no problem
[09:34] <LjL> Aleks: /join #ubuntu-no, of course it works
[09:34] <sambagirl> it tries to launch the thing
[09:34] <dnB> folki, system/administration/synaptic package manager
[09:35] <folki> I f I woul install for example ICQ what will I need and how can I do it?
[09:35] <LjL> folki: Gaim
[09:35] <delire> Answer: hmm, can't help. i've been using Debian for far too long and have little experience with any other Linux distro.
[09:35] <Stormx2> folki: Gaim
[09:35] <Stormx2> folki: GAIM is pre-installed on ubuntu and can connect to ICQ
[09:35] <sambagirl> these icons are almost hiding my entire desktop and i cannot do anything
[09:35] <ProN00b> i can, StarKruzr
[09:35] <ProN00b> *Stormx2
[09:35] <Answer> delire, when it boots I want to launch firefox.  isn't there some script that I can add stuff to the boot sequence??
[09:35] <folki> thank...I am going to try it
[09:36] <delire> Answer: i use ~/.xinitrc for this
[09:36] <bluehead> if you put theses deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sarge main
[09:36] <bluehead> deb-src http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sarge main in your sources.list
[09:36] <Stormx2> ProN00b: Huh?
[09:36] <cafuego_> Answer: No. Add it to the session startup list in Gnome.
[09:36] <LjL> Answer: the stuff for startup is in /etc/init.d and /etc/rc.d, i don't quite remember what's the right programs to add custom things there
[09:36] <LjL> Answer: of course you could even add stuff by hand, but you'd need to know quite a few things to do it correctly
[09:36] <sunshine82> my computer has just gone really slow for the past few days how to i check it and fix it
[09:36] <delire> Answer: DE's like KDE and Gnome have session managers. perhaps this is a better way for you to approach what you want.
[09:36] <bluehead> do you get an error while updating package list?
[09:36] <Answer> cafuego_, how do I do what you said?
[09:37] <cafuego_> Answer: System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup programs -> Add firefox.
[09:37] <ProN00b> i can connect to icq with gaim, Stormx2
[09:37] <LjL> delire, Answer: well, depending on what he's intending to do, yeah, possibly
[09:37] <Answer> cafuego_, how to do that from the command line?
[09:37] <cafuego_> Answer: You don't.
[09:37] <LjL> oh well, if the intention is just to start Firefox at boot, that's certainly a solution
[09:37] <Stormx2> ProN00b: Yep
[09:37] <LjL> or just save a session with firefox started!
[09:37] <Answer> cafuego_, I don't have gnome-panel, please tell me how to change the startup programs from the command line
[09:37] <delire> LjL: he needs programs to start after X, therefore a session manager or ~/.xinitrc would be a better move.
[09:37] <Razor-X> Answer: what WM do you use?
[09:37] <cute_bettong> does anyone know how to theme irssi in ubuntu?
[09:37] <cute_bettong> the themes don't seem to work
[09:37] <cafuego_> Starting firefox at boot is pointless, as it needs a $DISPLAY variable. That's  ot available until there's a user in X.
[09:38] <LjL> delire: certainly so.
[09:38] <cafuego_> Answer: Add it to ~/.xsession
[09:38] <Secreth`X> Hmm I think I found a solution for my sound problem. Apperently I have 2 sound cards. One normal and one 5.1 DD sound card. I want to use the 5.1 but the normal is used. How do I change that?
[09:38] <cute_bettong> is one on board?
[09:38] <Answer> cafuego_, ~/.xsession is empty
[09:38] <cute_bettong> like built into the motherboard?
[09:38] <cafuego_> Answer: Like I said, _add_ it.
[09:39] <bluehead> I need some help with debian depositories that seem to not work in my ubuntu dist (using synaptic)
[09:39] <Secreth`X> Yes cute_bettong
[09:39] <cute_bettong> not the 5.1 right?
[09:39] <Secreth`X> Not the 5.1, correct
[09:39] <cute_bettong> the 5.1 is the card
[09:39] <cute_bettong> ok
[09:39] <cute_bettong> go into your bios and shut off the soundcard
[09:39] <Secreth`X> Ok
[09:39] <Secreth`X> brb..
[09:39] <cute_bettong> then boot into ubuntu and there is a thing that shows you what
[09:39] <cute_bettong> sound card to use
[09:40] <cute_bettong> and make the 5.1 the defauilt
[09:40] <cute_bettong> fault even
[09:40] <Secreth`X> Ok i will
[09:41] <Razor-X> i'm intrigued, can loadlin load Ubuntu if Ubuntu is installed?
[09:41] <Knowerrors> Anyone know how to fix this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88706
[09:42] <cute_bettong> does anyone know why irssi theme's do not work all the way in ubuntu
[09:42] <garrett_> Hello #ubuntu
[09:42] <funkyHat> Knowerrors, pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace should fix the problem.
[09:42] <Razor-X> cute_bettong: what do you mean?
[09:42] <sunshine82> my windows keep stickin or goin blank
[09:42] <funkyHat> Knowerrors, saves you restarting
[09:42] <cute_bettong> Raxor-X hold on i will show you
[09:42] <joshholt> Anyone successfully setup LTSP
[09:43] <garrett_> Razor-X: You're here again. :P
[09:43] <LjL> funkyHat: i don't have exactly that problem, but sometimes my X starts with the wrong refresh rate, and just restarting X doesn't change it
[09:43] <Razor-X> garrett_: :P
[09:44] <cafuego_> joshholt: Yes.
[09:44] <jeff_> hey guys
[09:44] <recon0> clear
[09:44] <jeff_> do you know how to change the colour scheme?
[09:44] <cafuego_> joshholt: I installed from an Edubuntu iso and after 30 minutes I had a working ltsp system.
[09:44] <garrett_> Razor-X: Think of anymore possibilities on my GRUB issue?
[09:44] <jeff_> in gnome??
[09:45] <cafuego_> jeff_: System -> Prefs -> Theme -> Theme details
[09:45] <Knowerrors> funkyHat: any way to fix it permanently?
[09:45] <joshholt> cafuego_: Any instructions
[09:46] <Secreth`X> who was the dude that helped me?
[09:46] <cafuego_> joshholt: Find edubuntu, install, done.
[09:46] <blackvd> whats weird is when I login to kubuntu my res is fine but fluxbox is way off
[09:46] <funkyHat> i don't know Knowerrors. It's probably possible to remove lines from xorg.conf to make it use the resolution you want, but I can't help you with that
[09:46] <recon0> Can somebody help me?
[09:47] <Secreth`X> who was the dude that helped me?
[09:47] <sunshine82> my computer is really runnin really slow how do i fix it or check what wrong
[09:47] <zack_> im in the package manager and i cant find unrar-nonfree
[09:47] <blackvd> started me at 1600 this time
[09:47] <sunshine82> now my computer is just login it self out
[09:47] <Vegitto> sunshine82, buy a new one
[09:47] <joshholt> cafuego_: I have tried this on Kubuntu and it sorta works
[09:47] <recon0> Can somebody help me w/ a terminal error?
[09:48] <sunshine82> vegitto it normall very fast
[09:48] <LjL> recon0: what kind of error
[09:48] <jeff_> cafuego_: ok, im in theme deatils and i dont see anything about the color scheme
[09:48] <sunshine82> all the windows are stickin when i try to open them and goin blamk
[09:49] <cute_bettong> anyone know how to change the text colour and background colour in ubuntu's terminal?
[09:49] <mike4263> hey. my ubuntu install is hosed
[09:49] <Vegitto> sunshine82, reinstall then ;)
[09:49] <WildZeck> cute_bettong, under x ?
[09:50] <sunshine82> vegitto reinstsll what
[09:50] <Red-Sox> hello
[09:50] <Niomi> how do you configure a mouse with multiple buttons?
[09:50] <jeff_> does anyone know how to change the colour scheme in ubuntu?
[09:50] <Vegitto> sunshine82, everything you can
[09:50] <sunshine82> vegitto i dont know what causin the computere to go so slow
[09:50] <Red-Sox> jeff_:yes
[09:50] <jeff_> Red-Sox: can you please tell me how
[09:51] <cute_bettong> WildZeck: yes i beleve that is what i want to do
[09:51] <cute_bettong> it's under the defualt breezy install
[09:51] <Vegitto> sunshine82: how can you ask for advice if you don't even know what your problem is?
[09:51] <Red-Sox> jeff_: system--------->prefs--------------->theme----------->any scheme you want; you can also download new themes in gnome art;)
[09:51] <WildZeck> X is the graphic gui under linux
[09:51] <ompaul> mike4263, so are you going to tell us more
[09:52] <Red-Sox> !test
[09:52] <ubotu> Failed.
[09:52] <cute_bettong> WildZeck: so can you help me?
[09:52] <Red-Sox> !RestrictedFormats
[09:52] <ubotu> well, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[09:52] <Red-Sox> jeff_: was that what you wanted?
[09:53] <WildZeck> cute_bettong, in a terminal , on the menu at the top, edit current profile ->colors
[09:53] <sunshine82> the computer keep login me out i think it has to do with gtk-gnuella
[09:54] <sunshine82> i try and remove it the sypatic manager closes by itself
[09:54] <Red-Sox> is it possible to get windows media player movies off the internet on ubuntu?
[09:54] <jeff_> Red-Sox: i wanted to change the colours
[09:55] <sunshine82> i try reinstall it the sypatic managr close by itself
[09:55] <Red-Sox> jrff_: colors of what?
[09:55] <WildZeck> Red-Sox, with a vlc plug in in firefox perhaps ?
[09:55] <Red-Sox> jeff_:*
[09:55] <WildZeck> Red-Sox, never try it
[09:55] <Red-Sox> WildZeck: hmm...ill give it a shot
[09:55] <jeff_> red-sox: not just the window border, controls or icons, like the colour of the task bar and window bars
[09:55] <jeff_> red-sox: and stuff like that
[09:56] <sunshine82> how do i remove gtk-gnuella from my computer i thinkn it causein my computer to go slow
[09:56] <sunshine82> ive try through sypatic that just closes by itself
[09:56] <rich930> hia ppl
[09:57] <JDahl> anyone here using eclipse with Breezy on AMD64? It keeps crashing for me during startup
[09:57] <MoBang> sunshine82: sudo apt-get remove <apname>
[09:57] <rich930> hai
[09:57] <garrett_> Any veterans here?
[09:57] <Red-Sox> jeff_: yes...go to theme...click on 'theme details' and you can change near anything
[09:57] <garrett_> (just a shot in the dark)
[09:58] <zack_> anyone know where a .RAR extractor would be in the package manager?
[09:58] <Red-Sox> garret_: type /topic
[09:58] <jeff_> red-sox: i onle have the controls, window border adn icon tabs
[09:58] <mike4263> the live cd does the same thing
[09:58] <ProN00b> i need something called iproute2, is it contained in the iproute package ?
[09:58] <adri_> man, i'm reinstalling again, my computer said it didnt know anything about the installation, like, couldn't find the directories, so im gonna install on the other drive to see if this drive is messed up, what's the command to check if the hard drive is faulty?
[09:58] <mike4263> oh wait
[09:58] <LjL> zack_: aptitude install unrar
[09:58] <jatos> hi
[09:59] <Red-Sox> jeff_: do you know how to take a screenshot?
[09:59] <mike4263> it just booted
[09:59] <JDahl> zack_, unrar-nonfree in restricted (or multiverse)
[09:59] <Red-Sox> jeff_: hold that thought
[09:59] <jeff_> red-sox: yeah man, how do i send it to you
[09:59] <Red-Sox> jeff_: okay
[09:59] <JDahl> zack_, apt-cache search unrar
[09:59] <jeff_> red-sox: ill put it on imageshack
[09:59] <adri_> hey guys, what's the command to see if a hard drive is faulty, to check it
[09:59] <adri_> some guy just told me earlier, like an hour ago
[09:59] <Red-Sox> jeff_: no...just pastebin
[09:59] <adri_> I forgot
[09:59] <garrett_> Red-Sox: I know where I'm at. Just going to wish anyone a happy Veteran's day.
[09:59] <Xenguy> adri_: fsck
[09:59] <adri_> anyone, please
[09:59] <adri_> fsck, if the drive is hdb
[10:00] <adri_> fsck hdb ?
[10:00] <Red-Sox> garret_: not here
[10:00] <cafuego_> !find bin/iproute2
[10:00] <Xenguy> adri_: man fsck
[10:00] <adri_> im not on linux right now
[10:00] <garrett_> Fsck that.
[10:00] <Red-Sox> jeff_: did you put it on pastebin?
[10:00] <adri_> comon please, I need it to check the hd, cuase I cant boot into ubuntu, I mean, when it starts up ubuntu, all these errors come up and it cant startx, its like it cnat find the directories
[10:01] <jeff_> im abotu to
[10:01] <adri_> lol
[10:01] <zack_> Ljl: thanks, thanks others
[10:01] <sunshine82> im havin a problem here my computer keep login it self off and im tryin to use gtk-gnella and it keep freeze i've tried to uninstall it but sypati maner just closes it self
[10:01] <adri_> fsck hdb ?
[10:01] <adri_> fsck fdb?
[10:01] <trappist> Red-Sox: he wasn't talking about linux veterans.
[10:01] <sunshine82> any ideas anyone on how i can fix this please
[10:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/iproute2' returned no results.
[10:01] <MoBang> sunshine82: sudo apt-get remove gtk-gnutella
[10:01] <Xenguy> adri_: unless you can get to a command prompt, you can't use fsck anyway
[10:01] <trappist> garrett_: thanks
[10:01] <Red-Sox> trappist: I know...lol...thats why i said not here
[10:02] <garrett_> trappist: No problem-o.
[10:02] <Xenguy> adri_: so you probably need a rescue disk of some kind
[10:02] <Xenguy> adri_: use that to boot, then run 'fsck' from there
[10:02] <Red-Sox> jeff_: did you?
[10:02] <zack_> ok, i thought i installed it, but how am i sure
[10:03] <Xenguy> adri_: # NOTE: To fsck the main/boot drive, boot from a rescue CD and fsck the *unmounted drive*
[10:03] <Xenguy> # e.g. -> e2fsck -fv /dev/hda3
[10:03] <Red-Sox> is there a way to change the location of the X minimize and maximize buttons?
[10:03] <adri_> uh...
[10:03] <adri_> I want to fsck hdb
[10:03] <zack_> i typed
[10:03] <adri_> how would I do that, fsck hdb?
[10:03] <ULffuntu> why isn't there a search function in your file browser HUHHH
[10:04] <zack_> sudo aptitude install unrar
[10:04] <Xenguy> adri_: those instructions apply to an ext2 filesystem I believe
[10:04] <jeff_> red-sox: yeah here it is
[10:04] <jeff_> red-sox: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4375
[10:04] <trappist> adri_: you fsck partitions, not hard drives
[10:04] <zack_> and it did some stuff, but im not sure it installed. becasue i cant extract rars
[10:04] <Red-Sox> jeff_: thx
[10:04] <tristanmike> Red-Sox, System tools, Configuration Editor
[10:04] <MoBang> sunshine82: sudo apt-get remove gtk-gnutella
[10:04] <trappist> zack_: how do you know you can't extract rars
[10:05] <zack_> i have a .rar and i tried to extract it
[10:05] <sunshine82> any ideas on why gtk-gnutella keep freezing
[10:05] <tristanmike> Red-Sox, apps-metacity-general-button layout
[10:05] <Red-Sox> jeff_: and what do you want?
[10:05] <zack_> archive type not supported it says
[10:05] <MoBang> sunshine82: because it's evil
[10:05] <sunshine82> mobang i remove and reinstall it and im still havin the same problenm
[10:05] <zack_> i can show you what it said when i type sudo aptitude install unrar
[10:06] <jeff_> red-sox: im trying to change the colours. like instead of grey for the window background i want to choose comethign else
[10:06] <MoBang> sunshine82: I don't use it, sorry!
[10:06] <sunshine82> mobang it been workin fine for ages it just the last few day sit just gone funny amd my computer gone so slow
[10:06] <MoBang> sunshine82: maybe gnutella isn't the problem
[10:06] <recon0> can somebody help me w/a program issue
[10:06] <Coburn> how can create icons on xfce desktop^
[10:06] <sunshine82> mobang but i dont what else to check
[10:07] <HaschHase> hi guys, where do i find the trash can?
[10:07] <knoppix_> hey where can I find my system log again, I'm gonna see why it's not working
[10:07] <HaschHase> i deleted it from the panel
[10:07] <ColD_7> do anyone experience the cursor gone crazy in ubuntu?
[10:07] <HaschHase> and now i cant find it anymore
[10:07] <blank> where is the system log
[10:07] <trappist> does ubuntu not even have gtk+-2.0 available?
[10:07] <MoBang> sunshine82: is the problem there without gnutella
[10:07] <blank> can someone please tell me where I can get the system log
[10:07] <blank> *wher eI can find
[10:08] <yo> HaschHase, itz botto-right last icon next to panels
[10:08] <recon0> has anybody had issues with america's army on ubuntu?
[10:08] <tristanmike> HaschHase, right click-->add to panel-->trash
[10:08] <Red-Sox> jeff_: oh...sorry...hold on
[10:08] <tristanmike> recon0, I've had no problems last time I checked
[10:08] <Xenguy> blank: /var/log
[10:08] <blank> someone please, thanks
[10:08] <Xenguy> blank: try 'messages' or 'syslog'
[10:09] <blank> k
[10:09] <HaschHase> thanks tristanmike
[10:09] <Xu> hi can anyone help me out with a little performance question?
[10:09] <zack_> how do i know if i actually installed unrar when i cant extract .rar's
[10:09] <blank> gay, it doesnt let me view it, not enough permissions (im on knoppix)
[10:10] <blank> messages is locked too
[10:10] <Xu> i've just installed the nvidia drivers... i hope i would get a better video performance.. :( but i don't.. :(
[10:10] <jaims> hello
[10:10] <Xu> the problem is playing *.wmv files
[10:10] <recon0> can somebody help me cause america's army won't run
[10:10] <Riddell> blank: don't use homophobic language here
[10:10] <rich930> i have ubuntu 5.10 for n e one hoo has a 64 bit cpu but i dont that suks
[10:10] <Xu> they aren't playing smooth :(
[10:10] <blank> srry
[10:10] <zack_> how do i know if i actually installed unrar when i cant extract .rar's
[10:10] <blank> can anyone help me
[10:11] <Riddell> blank: use sudo
[10:11] <rich930> wid wat
[10:11] <Red-Sox> jeff_: you might find this helpful http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-app-devel-list/2000-September/msg00178.html
[10:11] <ompaul> blank, (A) language (B) sudo -i or su - will help you
[10:11] <jaims> one problem installng ubuntu Breezy Badger!
[10:11] <blank> Riddell: I'm on knoppix
[10:11] <LjL> Riddell: ahah come one, there's much worse things people can say :)
[10:11] <LjL> one=on
[10:11] <ompaul> Riddell, is sudo on knoppix
[10:11] <zack_> sudo aptitude install unrar
[10:11] <zack_> shoudnt that install unrar?
[10:11] <blank> ompaul: I think it is
[10:11] <blank> ompaul: but I'm trying to read the ubuntu log, not knoppix
[10:12] <rich930> i have knoppix iso image but it wont boot? help?
[10:12] <tristanmike> recon0, sorry, brain freeze, it's "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:12] <jaims> sudo apt-get install unrar, maybe?
[10:12] <trappist> rich930: /join #knoppix
[10:12] <ompaul> blank, what are you doing you have your machine booted with knoppix looking at a ubuntu disk?
[10:12] <nadjyla> hello
[10:13] <blank> ompaul: yes
[10:13] <blank> I'm trying to read the log
[10:13] <Red-Sox> rich930: the ubuntu image or the knoppix image?
[10:13] <blank> but I dont have permissions
[10:13] <blank> it's cause I cant boot into my ubuntu, I get all sorts of errors
[10:13] <thewayofzen> sudo apt-get install rar
[10:13] <rich930> knoppix im on ubuntu now doh
[10:13] <blank> fsck hdb will work, right Xenguy?
[10:13] <thewayofzen> then use rar x filename.rar to extract
[10:13] <jaims> does anyone know about a problem whilst installing ubuntu: it hangs loading module 'ide-cd' for 'linux atapi cd-rom'
[10:13] <jaims> ?
[10:14] <ompaul> blank, roll back here a second, what errors are you getting when you try to boot ubuntu?
[10:14] <Xenguy> blank: that should be safe to try
[10:14] <Red-Sox> rich930: why is that so evident?
[10:14] <blank> nah, you probably burned the cd wrong or you downloaded it wrong, jaime
[10:14] <Xenguy> blank: see if it works
[10:14] <jaims> i don't think so!
[10:14] <Xenguy> blank: the drive has to be unmounted
[10:14] <Xenguy> blank: I think that is important IIRC
[10:14] <kainite> Hm...
[10:14] <jaims> i have a brand new cd just received from 'ship ubuntu'
[10:14] <Red-Sox> jaims: at t speed did you burn it
[10:14] <delire> Xenguy: it is
[10:14] <blank> the drive has to be unmounted?
[10:14] <blank> how do I unmount it
[10:14] <Xenguy> delire: k
[10:14] <Red-Sox> james: sry...at what speed did you burn it?
[10:14] <rich930> red-sox: tell me wat to do or sum one plz
[10:15] <Coburn> how can create icons on xfce desktop?
[10:15] <delire> blank: before you fsck /dev/hdb what errors are you getting?
[10:15] <blank> Could not unmount device.
[10:15] <blank> The reported error was:
[10:15] <blank> umount: /mnt/hdb1: device is busy
[10:15] <Red-Sox> rich930: at what speed did you burn it?
[10:15] <yo> kwestion 4 Yve
[10:15] <rich930> high speed? duz dat help?
[10:15] <jaims> with the live-cd it happens the same thin
[10:15] <zack_> can anyone help me out with installing unrar
[10:15] <delire> blank: don't fsck yet, i'd be surprised if your problem lies there.
[10:15] <jaims> thing, sorry; but it runs in a different pc
[10:15] <blank> I got errors like, it cant find the directory, all sorts of them that lead to it, like, 'no such thing as command blah', I think it cant read the drive cuase it cant find directories, it's happened to me before, hence why I reinstalled, but it happened again
[10:15] <Red-Sox> !tell delire about paste
[10:15] <nadjyla> zack_, synaptic search word rar
[10:15] <blank> I think it's the drive, that's why I want to fsck
[10:15] <delire> Red-Sox: what?
[10:16] <mike4263> okay
[10:16] <mike4263> its using my pci video card as my main
[10:16] <thewayofzen> zack_,  you want to uncompress a rar file right?
[10:16] <Red-Sox> oh...delire...my bad....i ment blank lol
[10:16] <zack_> nadjyla: i typed 'sudo aptitude install unrar'  shoudlnt that have worked?
[10:16] <mike4263> how do i get it to do not do that
[10:16] <zack_> yeah the wayof zen
[10:16] <Red-Sox> !tell blank about paste
[10:16] <thewayofzen> zack_,   sudo apt-get install rar
[10:16] <yo> Yvonne, u ever comspec at ssa/atl/ro ?
[10:16] <blank> it was just 3 lines Red-Sox
[10:16] <rich930> red-sox: duz high speed help?
[10:16] <thewayofzen> zack_,  then when u have that installed use this command    :    rar x name.tar
[10:16] <blank> so yeah, and I cant read my ubuntu logs
[10:17] <blank> cause I dont have the permissions
[10:17] <thewayofzen> zack_,  the x flag will tell it to extract
[10:17] <Red-Sox> blank: nm
[10:17] <delire> blank: hmm. have you mounted the drive first from knoppix?
[10:17] <sburnap> There seems to be a bug in the 5.10 install with multiple drives and grub.
[10:17] <blank> it automatically mounted itself
[10:17] <zack_> thewayofzen: any reason why    sudo aptitude install unrar    not work?
[10:17] <Red-Sox> sburnap: i think not
[10:17] <mike4263> anybody got any ideas with multiple monitors and ubuntu
[10:17] <blank> I right cliked on it and put unmount and I got that error
[10:17] <thewayofzen> zack_,  i have no idea.  ive only ever used apt-get install rar
[10:17] <sburnap> I have a working system on /dev/sda1
[10:17] <Red-Sox> rich930: burn it @ x3
[10:17] <thewayofzen> zack_,  and it works FINE with single archives or others spanned across multiple rar files
[10:17] <sburnap> (A working ubuntu system)
[10:17] <zack_> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:17] <zack_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:17] <zack_> is only available from another source
[10:17] <thewayofzen> zack_,  taken from the ubuntu starter guide more or less.
[10:18] <thewayofzen> zack_,  update your sources.list?
[10:18] <delire> blank: if you do want to file-system check, su then 'umount -l /dev/hdb1' then 'fsck /dev/hdb1'
[10:18] <sburnap> When I try to install to /dev/sdc1, it happily changes the MBR on /dev/sdc1, which, of course, does nothing.
[10:18] <blank> and what surprises me, is that it's happened twice since I installed on that drive, but on my other drive it's perfectly okay, it's the same CD from which I'm isntalling from
[10:18] <nadjyla> zack_,  after, you can extract rar with file-roller or ark
[10:18] <zack_> im pretty new at this =\
[10:18] <sburnap> So when it goes to boot to continue the install, I just get my old system back.
[10:18] <delire> blank: check the partition exists at that address with 'fdisk -l' first.
[10:18] <delire> s/address/path
[10:18] <thewayofzen> zack_,  using the repos that are currently in mine (taken from the ubuntu breezy upgrade originally)  both rar and unrar are there
[10:18] <sburnap> Does anyone know how to get the install to change the right drive?
[10:18] <thewayofzen> zack_,  i just checked.
[10:19] <vojta> please, how can i make mp3 play?
[10:19] <blank> delire, huh?
[10:19] <nadjyla> vojta, install mad
[10:19] <blank> Could not unmount device.
[10:19] <blank> The reported error was:
[10:19] <blank> umount: /mnt/hdb1: device is busy
[10:19] <blank> sorry
[10:19] <Madpilot> !tell vojta about mp3
[10:19] <Red-Sox> blank: sorry about that...in gaim 2 people are almost the same color and I thought it was just you
[10:19] <YokoZar> Hmm, none of my openGL screensavers work, yet I have the NVidia restricted modules.  Am I missing something important?
[10:19] <zack_> thewayofzen, i go to synaptic package manager, but im not sure what im suppose to be looking for
[10:20] <Xenguy> blank: lsof /dev/hdb1  <-- what output does that give?
[10:20] <delire> blank: you must be accessing a file on that partition.
[10:20] <Knowerrors> can anybody help me get mp3 support going?  I already have w32codecs installed and tried both kaffiene and amarok, nada
[10:20] <blank> kay hold on
[10:20] <thewayofzen> zack_,  when you do a search for rar in synaptic you get nothing?
[10:20] <nadjyla> zack_, search the word rar with synaptic
[10:20] <blank> fsck it says it's clean
[10:20] <Xenguy> blank: lsof /mnt/hdb1  <-- sorry, this instead?
[10:20] <cafuego_> blank: are you _on_ /mnt/hdb1?
[10:20] <cafuego_> blank: DO NOT run fsck on a mounted fs!
[10:20] <blank> I was, I closed it and did fsck again, and it's not mounted anymore
[10:20] <YokoZar> oh dur-hur I didn't enable it
[10:20] <Xenguy> blank: stop
[10:20] <zack_> i did
[10:20] <zack_> i get nothing
[10:21] <rich930> i have a 64 bit processor but 5.10 for 64 bit wont run help?
[10:21] <blank> I did xenguy
[10:21] <zack_> i didnt a provided package search
[10:21] <blank> I closed the window, I unmounted hdb1
[10:21] <zack_> and searched by name
[10:21] <fruud> how do you see what KDE version u got ?
[10:21] <zack_> neither came up
[10:21] <blank> then I did fsck
[10:21] <cafuego_> blank: Won't run how?
[10:21] <Xenguy> blank: ahh, gave us a scare there :-)
[10:21] <nadjyla> zack, check your sources universe and multiverse on
[10:21] <thewayofzen> zack_,  when you search for rar in synaptic you get a SUPER long list of things.. if u scroll to the R's you do not have rar?
[10:21] <zack_> nope
[10:21] <thewayofzen> nadjyla,  ill let u help.. its likely you are more experienced at this then i.
[10:22] <fruud> guys, how do you see what KDE version u got
[10:22] <blank> so now what guys
[10:22] <blank> I unmounted it
[10:22] <Xenguy> blank: delire seemed to think the problem is elsewhere (but I didn't see him say where)
[10:22] <zack_> nadjyla: how do i check them on
[10:22] <zack_> right now im at software preferences
[10:22] <zack_> and i see a list of things like, breezy badger etc...
[10:22] <blank> It's unmounted, what should I type, fsck /dev/hdb1 ?
[10:23] <Ahmuck> i like the live version.  i have a zip disk.  is there a way to write configuration files to the zip disk, such as firefox, openoffice, etc. so i can reboot and still retiain themes, extensions, etc. ?
[10:23] <Xenguy> blank: I thought you already did an fsck?
[10:23] <rich930> i have a 64 bit processor but 5.10 for 64 bit wont run help?
[10:23] <blank> Xenguy: lsof /mnt/hdb1 doesn't give any output
[10:23] <blank> yeah but fsck didnt do anything
[10:23] <bluefrog-10> how do i get out of irssi,pls?
[10:23] <Xenguy> blank: K
[10:23] <blank> and still doesnt
[10:23] <trappist> blank: /quit
[10:23] <bluefrog-10> ty
[10:24] <trappist> oops
[10:24] <recon0> ***** Can somebody help me with issue at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4376
[10:24] <trappist> bluefrog-10: /quit
[10:24] <blank> oh Xenguy
[10:24] <trappist> or is it /exit
[10:24] <blank> xenguy, I think I know now, it's not mounted so it's dev/hdb1, not mnt/hdb1
[10:24] <trappist> I never do it
[10:24] <Ahmuck> for one, i would like to have ISO-2022-JP installed however, if my niece reboots my pc during the day i would have to go through the entire reload process over again.
[10:24] <blank> still didn't work
[10:24] <blank> Man, I'm so confused
[10:24] <recon0> If somebody can help me with issue at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4376, /msg me
[10:24] <blank> fsck /dev/hdb1 just says
[10:24] <zack_> what section should UNRAR be in?
[10:24] <Xenguy> blank: yes (about lsof)
[10:24] <blank> everything's clean
[10:25] <sburnap> sigh
[10:25] <blank> yeah Xenguy?
[10:25] <blank> oh
[10:25] <Xenguy> blank: is your filesystem ext2 or ext3 ?
[10:25] <trappist> recon0: glxinfo | grep rendering
[10:25] <blank> ext3
[10:25] <tristanmike> recon0, there you are, you ran away on me last time, I had a brain freeze, sorry,
[10:25] <zack_> what section should UNRAR be in?
[10:25] <recon0> sorry
[10:25] <cafuego_> blank: Yes, use -f to force a run
[10:25] <blank> on what
[10:25] <tristanmike> recon0, anyway, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:25] <blank> lsof -f /dev/hdb1 ?
[10:25] <blank> -f for what
[10:25] <cafuego_> blank: It cna be marked as clean (tune2fs -l) but still be busted.
[10:25] <blank> on fsck?
[10:25] <recon0> i'll try
[10:26] <blank> cafuego_: use -f on what, fsck?
[10:26] <tristanmike> recon0, I remember I had that exact issue, but it was a while ago
[10:26] <jeff_> red-sox: what was that url you gave me? sorry, i had to get the phone
[10:26] <cafuego_> blank: unkoiunt; sudo fsck -C -f /dev/hdb1
[10:26] <cafuego_> s/unkoiunt/unmount/
[10:26] <dirkson> Hey all. I'm trying to get a PPP account to run upon boot- How would I go about doing that?
[10:26] <n0odl3> how do i stop GAIM from automatically starting in xfce
[10:26] <n0odl3> ???
[10:26] <cafuego_> dirkson: it it in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:26] <blank> ah okay, NOW, it's checking
[10:26] <zack_> anyone know what section UNRAR should be in in the synaptic package manager?
[10:26] <blank> on the other one it wasnt doing anything
[10:26] <tristanmike> zack_, "unrar" is in the "universe"
[10:26] <recon0> tristanmike, i get "dpkg: confilicting actions  --control and --remove
[10:26] <cafuego_> blank: Yes, that's because the fs was marked as clean. if that flag is set, fsck doesn't bother.
[10:27] <blank> guys it asks me
[10:27] <dirkson> Cafuego Ok, I've put my wvdial stuff in that.... Do you know if /interfaces runs before or after miscboot.sh? (I have scripts in miscboot.sh that enable my modem)
[10:27] <tristanmike> recon0, hmm, do you have synaptic open?
[10:27] <jeff_> red-sox: you there man?
[10:27] <blank> Deleted inod 1048673 has zero dtime. Fix<y>?
[10:27] <n0odl3> does anyone know?
[10:27] <blank> *inod = inode
[10:27] <cafuego_> dirkson: wvdial? You only need ppp stanzas
[10:27] <recon0> tristanmike, yes whoops, i'll try  again
[10:27] <zack_> i cant find anything bout universe in the manager
[10:27] <blank> cafuego and Xenguy: Deleted inod 1048673 has zero dtime. Fix<y>?
[10:28] <cafuego_> dirkson: add a ppp0 interface stanza as per the manpage and off it goes.
[10:28] <tristanmike> zack_, paste your sources.list in pastebin
[10:28] <cafuego_> blank: If the disk is indeed unmounted, yes.
[10:28] <blank> huh? yeah it is
[10:28] <blank> so I press yes?
[10:28] <gearry> how do I add a path to my PATH env?
[10:28] <sburnap> Red-Sox: if the ubuntu install doesn't have a bug in it, then why does it change the MBR on the wrong disk?
[10:28] <cafuego_> blank:  just 'y'
[10:28] <blank> now it says the same thing but for another inode, yes again I guess
[10:28] <delire> blank: go through them all with y
[10:28] <Red-Sox> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-app-devel-list/2000-September/msg00178.html, jeff_
[10:28] <dirkson> Cafuego Ahhh, ok. That might be tough. The PPP connection I'm using is quite unique.... The man page says I can use a wvdial stanza too, and I've already got wvdial programmed to call my internet.
[10:28] <n0odl3> Hw do i stop GAIM from automatically starting up in xfce?
[10:28] <zack_> tristanmike, im pretty new, not sure whwer sources.list is
[10:29] <zack_> any place i can read up about this stuff?
[10:29] <cafuego_> Or ctrl-C and trrun it with the -y flag too (auto-yes)
[10:29] <delire> zack_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:29] <tristanmike> zack_, /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:29] <recon0> tristanmike, it's saking for a video card driver, i don't know which one
[10:29] <dylan_> how do i format an external hard drive in linux?
[10:29] <blank> Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found. Fix<y>? I already pressed yes, just letting you know
[10:29] <Red-Sox> sburnap: it worked on a different system for me!
[10:29] <tristanmike> recon0, which video card do you have?
[10:29] <jeff_> red-sox: thanks alot man
[10:29] <cafuego_> dirkson: Ah ok, I never used wvdial; still that should all run well after bootmisc.sh
[10:29] <delire> dylan_: i like to use cfdisk
[10:29] <blank> Inoe 1048699, i_blocks is 1, should be 0, Fix<y>?
[10:29] <sburnap> Red-Sox: using SATA?
[10:29] <sburnap> I've tried twice now.
[10:29] <blank> *Inoe = Inode
[10:29] <Red-Sox> jeff_: did it help?
[10:30] <recon0> tristanmike, i honestly don't know, how can i find out?
[10:30] <cafuego_> blank: Just hit y, no need letting us know what it outputs.
[10:30] <blank> :)
[10:30] <sburnap> It happily changes the MBR on /dev/sdc1, which is pretty useless with /dev/sda1 being the first drive.
[10:30] <Red-Sox> sburnap: yes
[10:30] <n0odl3> does anyone know?
[10:30] <dylan_> delire, its on /dev/sde ... so what do i do?  its connected via usb
[10:30] <tristanmike> recon0, nvidia, ati, they ring a bell?
[10:31] <Red-Sox> sburnap: I dont remember it completely, though, it was about a year ago in a class
[10:31] <dirkson> Cafuego Hmm..... Ok........ So it sounds like I've messed something up in the interfaces file. That gives me somewhere to start, at least! : )
[10:31] <delire> dylan_: does 'fdisk -l' see it?
[10:31] <recon0> tristanmike, i know all the brands, i just don't know which one i have
[10:31] <sburnap> Red-Sox: so not with the current release then?  So you don't know that it works with 5.10?
[10:31] <tristanmike> recon0, check device manager?
[10:31] <n0odl3> how can I stop GAIM from automatically running when i start xfce?
[10:31] <blank> uh...guys, it says Entry 'inputrc' in /etc (some number) has deleted/unused inode (somenumber), Clear? (already put yes)
[10:31] <dylan_> delire, yes it does
[10:32] <Red-Sox> sburnap: oh yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...thats right...sorry
[10:32] <Red-Sox> sburnap: braincramp
[10:32] <Swedish_Chef> 
[10:32] <dirkson> Cafuego Er..... any chance you could glance at my code and help me debug? :-/
[10:32] <cafuego_> blank: Whatever is trashes will end up in /lost+found
[10:32] <delire> dylan_: great, then use a program like qtparted (GUI) or cfdisk (Console) to format it.
[10:32] <Swedish_Chef> argh, gnome terminal really doesn't like irssi in a screen.
[10:32] <cafuego_> Swedish_Chef: Yes it does.
[10:33] <dylan_> delire, thanx
[10:33] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to stop GAIM from automatically running when i start XFCE
[10:33] <cafuego_> dirkson: I'm busy with other work atm.
[10:33] <blank> it says FILESYSTEM WAS MODIFIED, and it's done
[10:33] <delire> n0odl3: remove 'gaim' from your session manager.
[10:33] <Swedish_Chef> cafuego_: it was randomly going blank on me, so i had to force it to redraw by switching channels :/
[10:33] <cafuego_> dirkson: Just ask on the channel.
[10:33] <dirkson> Cafuego_: Ok. Thaks anyway.
[10:33] <n0odl3> delire: where do i do taht?
[10:33] <delire> blank: great, now reboot
[10:34] <blank> should I mount it to see what it did, or should I restart and see if ubuntu boots now?
[10:34] <blank> reboot? okay
[10:34] <delire> n0odl3: sorry, i don't use xfce, so cannot help.
[10:34] <cafuego_> Swedish_Chef: I've always run irssi in screen in gnome; it works fine. Just make sure you reattach using '-R'
[10:34] <blank> thanks delire, I really hope it works
[10:34] <delire> n0odl3: #xfce may have help
[10:34] <blank> n0odl3: /join #xfce
[10:34] <tristanmike> recon0, please don't pm me, thanx
[10:34] <recon0> tristanmike, nevermind i got a nVidia
[10:34] <delire> blank: good luck. if not, report back
[10:34] <dirkson> Say- I've got a couple lines in my etc/network/interfaces that don't seem to be working... Would someone mind taking a glance at 'em and telling me what I messed up on?
[10:35] <delire> dirkson: paste to a pastebin
[10:35] <tristanmike> recon0, nvidia it is, now just pick defaults for everything you don't know, which will probably be most of it, if it's blank, just hit enter/return
[10:36] <funkyHat> is it safe to resize an ntfs partition using gparted?
[10:36] <ProN00b> lol
[10:36] <dirkson> delire: Ok, it's in the paste bin under Dirkson. Is that how I'm supposed to do it?
[10:36] <cafuego_> funkyHat: it's not 100% safe tor esize anything.
[10:37] <funkyHat> cafuego_, as safe as resizing ext3?
[10:37] <erUSUL> funkyHat, better from a livecd on umounted partitions
[10:37] <cafuego_> funkyHat: I expect ext3 is safer to mange than ntfs
[10:37] <fredforfaen> !mp3
[10:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[10:37] <egon_spengler> funkyHat, I have used parted to resize NTFS so you should be fairly safe
[10:37] <Swedish_Chef> is enabling the root user and disabling sudo the only difference between installing via expert mode instead of regular?
[10:37] <fletch33> hello all any chance someone could answer an evolution ? 4 me
[10:38] <dirkson> Say- I've got a couple lines in my etc/network/interfaces that don't seem to be working... Would someone mind taking a glance at 'em and telling me what I messed up on? (It's on the pastebin under my name)
[10:39] <recon0> tristanmike, ok i'm going to try aa don't be surprised if you don't hear from me
[10:39] <tristanmike> recon0, let's hope I don't :)
[10:39] <trappist> fletch33: not until you ask it.
[10:39] <dirkson> fletch33: I probably won't know, but it can't hurt to ask- what do you need to know?
[10:39] <fletch33> k
[10:39] <fruud> any one want to help me ? ( http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4378 )
[10:39] <tristanmike> recon0, btw, I'm the same name in the game ;)
[10:39] <fredforfaen> i have a issu , i cant burn mp3's to musiccd , it complaints about some pluging...what to do?
[10:39] <fruud> i get that from ./configure on royale KDE window decoration
[10:39] <fletch33> i am trying to import my mail from mozilla and when i go into evo it doesnt allow me to choose any file type
[10:40] <fletch33> i need to choose mbox
[10:40] <fredforfaen> *issue
[10:40] <Riddell> fruud: install libz development files
[10:40] <dirkson> fletch33: Well, I was right, I don't know. But someone should! : )
[10:40] <fruud> know the apt command for it ? :)
[10:40] <recon0> tristanmike, didn't work same error
[10:40] <Red-Sox> some games' sound doesnt work in gnome but it does in fluxbox!
[10:40] <fletch33> the file type box is not lit bright
[10:41] <tristanmike> recon0, i didn't realize you posted on pastebin, so I just noticed _that_ error
[10:41] <trappist> heh.
[10:41] <trappist> I like 'not lit bright'.
[10:41] <funkyHat> Red-Sox, that's becuase the gnome sound manager locks the soundcard
[10:41] <fletch33> lol
[10:41] <recon0> tristanmike, oh
[10:41] <Agrajag> funkyHat: you mean the enlightened sound daemon?
[10:41] <Red-Sox> funkyhat: how do you unlock?
[10:41] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[10:41] <tristanmike> recon0, try "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" or have you already?
[10:41] <funkyHat> Red-Sox, killall esd
[10:41] <recon0> tristanmike, nope gonna try it
[10:41] <funkyHat> Agrajag, yes
[10:42] <Red-Sox> funkyhat: what does that do?
[10:42] <jilocasin> hello all
[10:42] <jilocasin> just installed breezy
[10:42] <tristanmike> recon0, you may as well "sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings" too
[10:42] <fletch33> i justed started on linux last night and i can use it until i can get my email and contacts from outlook to evo or something
[10:42] <Agrajag> Red-Sox: it kills the process that has a lock on /dev/dsp
[10:42] <funkyHat> Red-Sox, it kills the program called esd, which is the program that is locking the soundcard.
[10:42] <jilocasin> trying to get things working
[10:42] <zack_> what is up with this
[10:42] <fredforfaen> can someone help me , pls?
[10:42] <jilocasin> anyone know where I can get info?
[10:43] <gardin> my ubuntu installer keeps hanging, and i tried with a kubuntu installer too, it freezes, and it often crashes when installing bootstrap something, sorry that i can't provide more detailed info, but anyone that has any idea?
[10:43] <zack_> i have both univereses selected and there is absolutely no UNRARA
[10:43] <Red-Sox> funkyhat: will I have to do that every time?
[10:43] <Agrajag> jilocasin: www.ubuntulinux.com/wiki
[10:43] <Agrajag> lots of stuff there
[10:43] <jilocasin> ubuntu's web site has aloy of templates, very little help
[10:43] <Agrajag> zack_: it's not in universe
[10:43] <Agrajag> it's in multiverse
[10:43] <recon0> tristanmike, gonna try aa again, same deal as last time
[10:43] <tristanmike> Agrajag, the wiki says universe
[10:43] <Agrajag> jilocasin: what do you mean, templates?
[10:44] <Agrajag> tristanmike: unrar-nonfree?
[10:44] <Agrajag> nonfree stuff is in multiverse.
[10:44] <fredforfaen> i have a issue , i cant burn mp3's to musiccd , it complaints about some pluging...what to do?
[10:44] <Agrajag> I promise you, unrar-nonfree is in multiverse.
[10:44] <gardin> fredforfaen: what plugin?
[10:44] <zack_> i see main restricted universe multiverse
[10:44] <zack_> that is the only multiverse i see
[10:44] <hypa7ia> if i put a font in ~/.fonts, should i need to reload anything for them to work?
[10:44] <funkyHat> Red-Sox, you can change /etc/esound/esd.conf so the program times out and closes on it's own
[10:44] <jilocasin> last time I went there it gave me a list of temples
[10:44] <Agrajag> zack: have you run sudo apt-get update ?
[10:44] <fredforfaen> it just says that it dont have the right plugin for mp3 gardin
[10:44] <jilocasin> this time it seems to be working
[10:45] <tristanmike> Agrajag, ahh, my mistake, it's the "free" one in universe
[10:45] <fredforfaen> gardin in both gnomebaker and k3b
[10:45] <jilocasin> anyone know why the update manager asked for my password, then died.
[10:45] <zack_> agrajag i dont think so
[10:45] <dylan_> delire, hi its dylan again with the external hard disk....how do i format the entire drive at ext3?
[10:45] <Red-Sox> funkyhat: and how does one do that, lol
[10:45] <Agrajag> zack_: you should, otherwise it doesn't know anything about the new repositories
[10:45] <gardin> fredforfaen: ok, i'm not so in to burning cd's in linux, so sorry :P
[10:45] <fredforfaen> gardin damn :(
[10:45] <gardin> hehe
[10:45] <funkyHat> Red-Sox, open the file (sudo gedit /etc/esound/esd.conf)
[10:45] <mclaren266> is ubuntu compatible with microsoft applications?
[10:45] <zack_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:45] <zack_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:45] <zack_> what is that?
[10:45] <jaims> a hi est!
[10:46] <zack_> it opened a lot it seemed till i got to that
[10:46] <trappist> zack_: root
[10:46] <tristanmike> zack_, close synaptic
[10:46] <gardin> fredforfaen: try to google on your error message...
[10:46] <jaims> at boot, type 'linux irqpoll'
[10:46] <folki> hi all
[10:46] <MarcN> zack_: sudo apt-get whatever
[10:46] <trappist> zack_: err, what tristanmike said
[10:46] <fredforfaen> gardin ill try
[10:46] <mclaren266> is ubuntu compatible with microsoft apps?
[10:46] <gardin> with " and "
[10:46] <Red-Sox> funkyhat: then?
[10:46] <erUSUL> zack_, please do *not* paste here
[10:46] <Agrajag> MarcN: he's running it as root, he's running another apt process
[10:46] <erUSUL> mclaren266, no
[10:46] <trappist> mclaren266: with wine it can be made compatible with some of them
[10:46] <mclaren266> which ones are?
[10:46] <trappist> erUSUL: 2 lines is probably not gonna hurt anybody
[10:47] <folki> I would install Krusader to Ubuntu. What will I need? How can I do it? Can anybody help me please?
[10:47] <delire> dylan_: sorry, was out/ use tune2fs -j /dev/<device> or do it within cfdisk
[10:47] <funkyHat> Red-Sox, then there are 2 lines you are interested in, line 3 and line 6. you need to change the number after -as to a low one (this is the number of seconds before the program closes on it's own)
[10:47] <MarcN> mclaren266: usually there alternatives to MS apps that perform similar tasks.
[10:47] <trappist> mclaren266: depends which flavor of wine
[10:47] <mclaren266> ok thanks
[10:47] <recon0> tristanmike, sorry i closed client on accident
[10:47] <delire> dylan_: anyway, must split. good luck
[10:47] <funkyHat> Red-Sox, i have mine set to 1. here is my line 3: spawn_options=-terminate -nobeeps -as 1 -d hw:0
[10:47] <recon0> tristanmike, the fix didn't work
[10:47] <recon0> tristanmike, i'll brb
[10:47] <funkyHat> Red-Sox, (ignore the -d hw:0 bit)
[10:47] <Red-Sox> funkyhat: can you just pastebin it?
[10:47] <tristanmike> recon0, ok
[10:47] <DJHasis> Does anyone know how to configure X so that it won't say No devices found ?
[10:48] <funkyHat> Red-Sox, i could, but i have an odd sound setup, and i may have changed other things in that file that would cause other problems for you
[10:49] <Tevage> greetings all
[10:49] <Red-Sox> funkyhat: okay...ill paste what i have put and you say if its correct...k?
[10:49] <funkyHat> Red-Sox, ok
[10:49] <jilocasin> anyone know how I can get this update thing to work?
[10:49] <Zealot87> how do i use a build.xml file to install a program?
[10:49] <folki> Is here anybody who can give helping hand to new user of Ubuntu?
[10:49] <funkyHat> (sorry to be awkward lol)
[10:49] <voldemort> hola
[10:50] <Zealot87> whats the command in termainl to run xml files
[10:50] <Red-Sox> funkyhat: here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4379
[10:50] <Tevage> ./
[10:50] <MarcN> Zealot87: that sounds like a build file for ant.     ant install    or such usually.  You'll need java installed
[10:50] <Zealot87> ant install is the command?
[10:50] <QRZ> DJHasis:  Install a video card, plug in a monitor, and run, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from the command line and follow the prompts. :-)
[10:50] <jilocasin> this is wonky
[10:50] <DJHasis> QRZ: Thanks
[10:50] <MarcN> Zealot87: ant is like make.  It follows whatever instructions are in build.xml to compile/install the program.
[10:50] <Zealot87> MarcN, yeah its a java program, so do i enter ant install build.xml
[10:50] <dylan_> can somebody help me make a valid filesystem superblock on my USB 2.0 external hard disk?  tune2fs wont let me execute -j on it
[10:50] <jaims> bye
[10:50] <DJHasis> QRZ: I'll try
[10:51] <MarcN> Zealot87: usually     ant install       there should be a README.txt or such
[10:51] <Red-Sox> in gaim irc, is there a way to make it make a sound wen someone says something to you?
[10:51] <jilocasin> I tried running "users & groups" it started, flashed a window and died.  Tried again, and it doesn't even start
[10:51] <funkyHat> Red-Sox, that's great :)
[10:51] <QRZ> DJHasis:  That assumes you installed a graphical environment, etc.
[10:51] <funkyHat> Red-Sox, you will probably have to killall esd this once to get it using those settings
[10:51] <DJHasis> QRZ: I have gnome and kde both installed
[10:51] <Zealot87> MarcN, it says the "ant" command isnt found
[10:52] <laga> hello.
[10:52] <QRZ> DJHasis:  Then you should be in business :-)
[10:52] <Zealot87> MarcN, which is strange because I have java installed and have used iot
[10:52] <Red-Sox> funkyhat: okay, ill save it:-D thank you soooooooooooooooo much,
[10:52] <MarcN> Zealot87: then you need to install ant.  apt-get install ant
[10:52] <liz4rd> bluefrog-10!!!!! DUDE!!!
[10:52] <funkyHat> Red-Sox, np :)
[10:52] <jilocasin> can't su?!?!?!?
[10:52] <bluefrog-10> liz4rd, yes
[10:52] <MarcN> Zealot87: you'll need to have the JDK (dev kit) installed, not just the JRE (run time environment)
[10:52] <liz4rd> wtf
[10:52] <bluefrog-10> liz4rd, almost done
[10:52] <liz4rd> bluefrog-10, why arnt you answering in the window...
[10:52] <Zealot87> MarcN, ok Ill go do that, thanks for the help
[10:52] <bluefrog-10> have left u a readme on your desktop
[10:53] <blackhat> whats the program to rip dvds in linux like you can in windows w/ dvddecrypter
[10:53] <Royzer> hello everyone:) I've just installed Ubunto and I love it:) but.. I cant get acces to my harddrives:P anyone who'd be so kind and tell me how to gain acces?
[10:53] <blackhat> Royzer what type is it?, like a windows hard drive?
[10:53] <ompaul> Royzer, Utoto or Ubuntu ?
[10:53] <Royzer> they've got NTFS but, they should be readable : \
[10:54] <Royzer> ubunto
[10:54] <blackhat> Yeah they are readable as like as you know what your doing
[10:54] <liz4rd> lol
[10:54] <blackhat> do you know what /dev/ your hd is
[10:54] <liz4rd> ubuntu
[10:54] <ompaul> Royzer, ubuntu
[10:54] <DJHasis> QRZ: I hope so :(
[10:54] <ompaul> !tell Royzer about ntfs
[10:54] <erUSUL> !tell Royzer about windowsdrives
[10:54] <jilocasin> quitsu
[10:54] <ompaul> Royzer, read the message from ubotu the channel bot
[10:54] <Cran1988> !tell Royzer about ntfs
[10:55] <blackhat> im sure he knows by now lol
[10:55] <ompaul> Cran1988, ehh I may have beaten you with that
[10:55] <PoTs> how do i make thunderbird the default email client?
[10:55] <eric> I'm about to change from an ASUS A7V880 (KT880 chipset) to an ABIT NF7 (NForce2 chipset).  In the past, doing with Windows would require either a repair or a fresh format & reinstall.  Will I require a fresh install of Ubuntu as well?
[10:55] <Tank-> Is there a known problem with breazy's xserver-xorg-core_6.8.2-77_i386 package ?
[10:55] <Tank-> i keep getting  unable to create `./usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a': No such file or directory
[10:56] <tekeo> hello guys ;)
[10:56] <trappist> eric: no.  all your drivers are built into the kernel package.  you might need to reconfigure some things, is all.
[10:56] <Zealot87> is it possible to get onto a set of windows servers that my school has running?
[10:56] <Cran1988>  !tell Royzer about ftp
[10:56] <laga> i've just installed ubuntu 5.10. when i click on "install applications" or "update system" (rough translations, sorry), nothing happens. this is probably related to sudo/gksudo, I think. when i do an "gksudo gnome-app-install", for example, it does *nothing*. any suggestions?
[10:56] <ompaul> PoTs,  system -preferences -preferred applications :: custom command >> mozilla-thunderbird %s <<
[10:57] <Cran1988>  !tell Royzer about fat32
[10:57] <laga> by "nothing", i mean that i'm returned to the shell prompt :)
[10:57] <eric> trappist: that's a relief :)
[10:57] <ompaul> Cran1988, you can /msg ubotu about X
[10:58] <isai> hi
[10:58] <Xyc0> Is there a project that allows you to onetime reboot onto another GRUB entry, like say M$usx?
[10:58] <Cran1988> thnx
[10:58] <DJHasis> hmmm "Skipping "/usr/X11/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o": No symbols found
[10:58] <recon0> tristanmike, i'm finally back
[10:58] <Zambba> Is there a easy-to-use and simple GUI tool for configuring iptables?
[10:58] <ompaul> Xyc0, just press escape as when the machine gets to the grub menu then choose the o/s it is fastest
[10:59] <LathropWells> firestarter firewall for iptables
[10:59] <erUSUL> Zambba, firestarter??
[10:59] <tristanmike> recon0, ok, did you restart?
[10:59] <recon0> ???
[10:59] <isai> I got a message today telling me to look at ubuntulinux.org so that i can update to breezy (I am on hoary). Where specifically on the site can I look for the instructions?
[10:59] <recon0> tristanmike, no, i was just at dinner
[10:59] <Zealot87> is there a popcorn nuking time estimator for Ubuntu? because I always burn my popcorn!
[10:59] <tristanmike> recon0, after you installed settings and glx?
[10:59] <Xyc0> ompaul: I meant from like ubuntu, im not fast enought aka too lazy to try and time the grub entry change
[11:00] <recon0> tristanmike, whoops. I better do that.
[11:00] <recon0> tristanmike, brb
[11:00] <ompaul> isai, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:00] <tristanmike> recon0, yup
[11:00] <isai> tnx
[11:00] <ompaul> isai,  it is in the topic for the channel :-)
[11:00] <gardin> omg, after like 10 retries to install ubuntu, it seems to work :D *wee*
[11:00] <ArnoudDeVries> lol Zealot87 i remember a tea time program in kde a few years ago
[11:00] <erUSUL> !tell isai about breezy
[11:00] <Tevage> lol
[11:00] <fruud> anyone know how to install KDE window decorations ? always get errors on configuring... :(
[11:00] <DJHasis> QRZ: I did the reconfig and I still get the same error reports
[11:00] <Zealot87> ArnoudDeVries, well I will look into it, and see if we can get it working for Popcorn making! popcorn making is such an unstable business endeavor!
[11:00] <DJHasis> it says also that no symbols found when loading libGLcore.a
[11:01] <PoTs> ompaul: Thanks it works.  I was using mozilla-thunderbird -mail %s.  Don't know why i used the -mail.
[11:01] <ArnoudDeVries> right ;)
[11:01] <Zealot87> hehe
[11:01] <ompaul> Xyc0, then you will have to use a lot of energy to manually change the value for "default" in grub and make it the entry for windows
[11:01] <PoTs> is it possible to uninstall evolution?
[11:02] <ompaul> Xyc0, sudo nano /boot/grub/nano.list
[11:02] <Xyc0> ompaul: I know how to edit the menu list, I was just looking for a program that allowed a onetime boot change
[11:02] <PoTs> when i try ubuntu also wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[11:02] <Xyc0> ompaul: um  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:02] <Polaris_Python> hi, does anyone know in which package can I find the libglade bindings for python
[11:02] <ompaul> Xyc0, there is that
[11:03] <QRZ> DJHasis:  Bummer!  Is the video adapter being recognized during autodetection?  If not, you might need to edit your xorg.conf file manually and enter the bus id for it.
[11:03] <DJHasis> PoTs: Try sudo apt-get remove evolution
[11:03] <DJHasis> QRZ: It recornizes it
[11:03] <ompaul> Xyc0, man grub I guess - maybe you should make the break longer in grub to say 10 seconds and the you get plenty of time to hit esc, there is most likley something out there to use as your shutdown line
[11:03] <QRZ> DJHasis:  What is the error you get when gdm tries to start?
[11:04] <DJHasis> it says the correct name but I'm not sure that does it understand that it is in the pci-express-port and not in the agp
[11:04] <defcon8> i put the essential codecs in /usr/local/lib/codecs but mplayer isnt finding wmvdmod.dll . what to do?
[11:04] <PoTs> DJHasis: this also wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[11:04] <ompaul> PoTs, that is a meta package no problem with that
[11:05] <defcon8> anyone?
[11:05] <ubuntu> Hi, I am trying to resize my root partition using parted, but something strange is happening. I deleted the partition 10, next to the root one (9), and typed resize but nothing has changed. Can someone help me? Should I print the relevant lines here or at #flood?
[11:05] <DJHasis> QRZ: it saus that no symbols found, no devices found, no sreens found
[11:05] <QRZ> DJHasis:  Also, what video adapter are you using?
[11:05] <erUSUL> defcon8, put it in /usr/lib/win32/
[11:06] <DJHasis> I have ati radeon 850
[11:06] <PoTs> ompaul: ok, thanks
[11:06] <erUSUL> ubuntu, you should put resize 9 start end
[11:06] <recon0> tristanmike, holy ____, there is a new error at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4380 . I swear, that game is FUBAR.
[11:06] <DJHasis> I have ati radeon X850 pro
[11:06] <ompaul> defcon8, a sim link to /usr/lib/win32/ may be of use to you
[11:07] <ubuntu> erUSUL: I did it, resize 9 resize 9 21846 22222. Look my print: 9      21846,234  22034,465  logical   ext3        boot
[11:07] <ompaul> !tell DJHasis about ati
[11:07] <ubuntu> 10     22222,758  23179,724  logical   ext3
[11:07] <Royzer> I'm abit new to linux and its filesystem so took me awhile to find it, and the harddrives are in /dev/ and it says that only root has acces to 'em. I tried loggin in as root but coudn't : \
[11:07] <defcon8> thanks :D
[11:07] <erUSUL> ubuntu, iirci
[11:07] <ompaul> DJHasis, please do not aske me about ati I know nothing else
[11:07] <Coringao> Ola amigos! Tem Brasileiros aqui???
[11:08] <ompaul> !tell Coringao about es
[11:08] <ompaul> !es
[11:08] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:08] <benplaut> is there a (hopefully simple) way to let an ubuntu box connect to a windows domain? the macs in the system connect in a way that mac specific settings are stored on the server, but files are in the roaming profile, and thus available apon logging in. any way to do this, possibly logging in from gdm?
[11:08] <ubuntu> erUSUL: What?
[11:08] <ompaul> benplaut, there is a samba client that is all I know
[11:08] <erUSUL> ompaul, Coringao is brasilian
[11:08] <ompaul> !pt
[11:08] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:08] <Coringao> Como faz isso amigo?
[11:09] <ompaul> erUSUL, some of us don't know the difference :)
[11:09] <benplaut> ompaul: yeah... that's all anyone seems to know :(
[11:09] <tristanmike> recon0, that error looks familiar. You might wanna try that sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or uninstall/reinstall, you may have needed to install the glx and settings first.
[11:09] <erUSUL> ubuntu, if i recall correctly (iirci)
[11:09] <ompaul> benplaut, well I am sure that there is a faq on google that explains it all, or something on the samba site it is a huge project
[11:09] <recon0> tristanmike, just pick nv driver and defaults all the way, right?
[11:10] <QRZ> DJHasis:  Did you install xorg-driver-fglrx yet?
[11:10] <Coringao> Socorro! pode me ensinar como entra no Ubuntu-BR?
[11:10] <erUSUL> ompaul, i'm spanish (Galizian) so i do tell the diference ;)
[11:10] <ompaul> erUSUL, ahh
[11:10] <ompaul> Coringao, #ubuntu-BR
[11:10] <erUSUL> Coringao, use o comando /join do seu cliente de irc
[11:11] <German> Coringao, Servidor /  entrar a canal / then  you type #ubuntu-br
[11:11] <erUSUL> Coringao, /join #ubuntu-br
[11:11] <benplaut> ompaul: yeah... i searched this for a week a few months ago, there seems to be nothing on it... nobody even seems to know what this type of login is called...
[11:11] <ompaul> benplaut, the login to windows? which kind of windows box?
[11:11] <ubuntu> erUSUL: But I am asking about parted :-?
[11:11] <tristanmike> recon0, sorry, if nvidia isn't available, yest
[11:12] <P229> anyone have any success with the ipod shuffle in 5.10?
[11:12] <storixrich> this is probably going to be a common question, but i am unable to print with lpr command. i have a network printer and i can print a test page, as well as oofice docs. but when i try to print a pdf file using lpr i get the following error "lpr: error - scheduler not responding!"
[11:12] <benplaut> ompaul: win server 2003. all the lab computers are hooked up so that you can login to the server from any computer, access your files, and program settings, but the programs are on individual computers... i think it's called a roaming profile
[11:13] <erUSUL> ubuntu, i do not know why it fails. i asume that when you type print nothin changed
[11:13] <lavandergirl> hi
[11:13] <QRZ> DJHasis:  Well anyway, good luck with it... I'm off to bed now!
[11:13] <ompaul> benplaut, I guess you need to talk to #windows they have a channel here
[11:13] <recon0>  sorry, parents say i need to get off computer.
[11:13] <DJHasis> QRZ: yep
[11:13] <benplaut> k
[11:13] <DJHasis> and now I'm trying editing the xf86conf
[11:13] <DJHasis> QRZ: Okay
[11:13] <DJHasis> cya
[11:14] <fletch33> ok i found this but since i am a complete noob i dont know how to do it
[11:14] <fletch33> To import contacts.csv into Evolution you will have to run each .csv
[11:14] <fletch33> file through the attached Perl script (csv2vcard.pl). Download
[11:14] <fletch33> csv2vcard.pl into your home directory and make the script executable by
[11:14] <fletch33> running this command:
[11:14] <fletch33> $ chmod +x ~/csv2vcard.pl
[11:14] <fletch33> Run this script to convert contacts.csv to contacts.vcf:
[11:14] <fletch33> $ ./csv2vcard.pl contacts.csv contacts.vcf
[11:14] <QRZ> DJHasis:  Wish I had time to help further but I have to be up in 5 and a half hours!
[11:14] <blackhat> how can I remove things from the gnome menu, an application I uninstalled still remains there.
[11:14] <ken> any general linux techs here who know how to set up a tar.gz download from web in terminal to ubuntu
[11:14] <action09> hi all ! :) i've got application bug ( closing when going on certain link (firefox/liferea) do i submit a bug report ?
[11:14] <action09> is it a good idea ?
[11:14] <trappist> ken: yep
[11:14] <Red-Sox> action09: what limk?
[11:15] <ken> how?
[11:15] <Red-Sox> link*
[11:15] <dirkson> Say, I've got a few error lines coming up when I boot. (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4381) Can anyone give me some hints on what might be causing these things?
[11:15] <davidatstorix> kent: use the command wget or curl.
[11:15] <trappist> ken: well first you extract the tarball (tar zxf file.tar.gz) then you look at what was extracted.
[11:15] <tekeo> hi, I want to put up a grub splash scrren how to do that?
[11:15] <ken> i did that
[11:15] <duke3z> anyone know why my usr/bin/ld is missing?
[11:16] <trappist> ken: a .tar.gz is sorta like a zip.  you untar it, but not all of them have the same kinds of contents.
[11:16] <duke3z> er was never there
[11:16] <davidatstorix> tar -zxvf
[11:16] <action09> Red-Sox in liferea e.g. i tell it to open links in liferea (browsing) and when i open links from linuxtoday.org  it close liferea, and for firefox.. i dunno when.why but sometimes , it close itself while i did not do anything :(
[11:16] <ken> this is 2-d graphical chat server
[11:16] <tekeo> I want to put up a grub splash scrren how to do that?
[11:16] <funkyHat> cafuego_, compared to resizing ntfs, how safe would you say moving and resizing a vfat partition is?
[11:16] <LathropWells> !grub
[11:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:17] <ken> on http://practice.chatserve.com having real problem installing it
[11:17] <LathropWells> hm - not there  is it?
[11:17] <Red-Sox> action06: hmm.i.dont.know.what.could.be.the.problem.that.is.very.interesting.
[11:17] <Red-Sox> 09*
[11:17] <benplaut> ompaul: in #windows... i ask what it's called, i get "A typical school setup?"
[11:17] <benplaut> and one of the op's handles is lilo :D
[11:17] <nosilver4u> anyone here used mdadm before?
[11:17] <Agrajag> lilo runs this network
[11:18] <blackhat> !enlightenment
[11:18] <ubotu> [enlightenment]  at Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work; install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46105
[11:18] <benplaut> oh
[11:18] <blackhat> Is there anyway to get DR17
[11:18] <RWG> Umm
[11:18] <benplaut> Agrajag: still, kinda ironic :/
[11:18] <tekeo> hello any1 got the knowledge to put up a splashscreen?
[11:18] <ken> i switched from grub to lilo got less lag
[11:18] <Stormx2> where is that sources.list generator?
[11:18] <RWG> How long does a shipment of Ubuntu CDs take?
[11:18] <RWG> It has been 4 months
[11:18] <darkheart> blackhat Download the CVS source.
[11:18] <erUSUL> dirkson, i have the same errors too is harmless. you do not have lvm volumes and the boot process won't find it
[11:18] <Stormx2> RWG: Took months for me too
[11:18] <tristanmike> Stormx2, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:18] <action09> Red-Sox So i asking myslef if it's a bug and if necessary to submit a bug is a good idea ?
[11:19] <RWG> I wish I had some blank CDs...
[11:19] <RWG> lol
[11:19] <RWG> I'm a Yankees fa, Red-Sox
[11:19] <RWG> How ironic
[11:20] <dirkson> Erusul: Ahhhh, ok........ Then, unfortunately, it must be something -else- that's making my boot run like molasses : (
[11:20] <os2mac> have they started shipping CD's yet?
[11:20] <tekeo> haha...
[11:20] <blackhat> Yankees EWWWW
[11:20] <blackhat> Red-Sox are terrible too, but I'm not a baseball fan
[11:21] <darkheart> It's a bit off-topic anyway.
[11:21] <ken> if ur on windows u can d/l the iso and burn with deepburner
[11:21] <blackhat> yeah ;-)
[11:21] <darkheart> =)
[11:21] <n0odl3> when i was booting up i got this message
[11:21] <n0odl3> Checking root file system
[11:21] <os2mac> when I go to ship-it they say sent to shipping company....
[11:21] <n0odl3> system has been mounted 30 times without being checked
[11:21] <n0odl3> check forced
[11:22] <n0odl3> 1% non-contagious
[11:22] <n0odl3> what does this mean?
[11:22] <trappist> contiguous
[11:22] <Xenguy> n0odl3: that's normal
[11:22] <n0odl3> Xenguy: how is that normal?
[11:22] <trappist> non-contiguous = fragmented
[11:22] <trappist> 1% fragmented
[11:22] <erUSUL> n0odl3, yes
[11:22] <darkheart> LOL @ contagious.
[11:23] <trappist> or your filesystem is 99% infectious disease
[11:23] <n0odl3> sohow do u degrac=g>
[11:23] <n0odl3> how do i defrag
[11:23] <n0odl3> ?
[11:23] <n0odl3> i thought linux never has to defrag?
[11:23] <trappist> n0odl3: you don't.  it happens automatically.
[11:23] <darkheart> trappist ;P Now wouldn't that be funny
[11:23] <blackhat> darkheart i know this is a little late of a response but where can I get the CVS for enlightenment 17
[11:23] <n0odl3> trappist: is that what the message was?
[11:23] <blank> where can I find my grub conf
[11:24] <eric> Why is it that when I go to install K3B through the Synaptic Package Manager, that it wants to remove Skype & libqt3c102-mt??
[11:24] <darkheart> blackhat All you need to get E17 up and running is on http://get-e.org/
[11:24] <ken> i'm in terminal i wget file from http://practice.chatserve.com/extras/pserver-4.5.1.i686-unknown-linux.tar.gz it downloads but how do i install
[11:24] <blondie> blank: in /etc ?
[11:24] <blackhat> thank you.
[11:24] <blondie> maybe
[11:24] <darkheart> blackhat All the info, that is.
[11:24] <trappist> n0odl3: no.  it happens all the time.  it did a check to see how fragmented the fs is, and right now it's 1% which is great.
[11:24] <blank> /etc/grub.conf?
[11:24] <darkheart> blackhat You should take note though, E17 is not a release yet. As such, getting it to work and customizing it can be hackerish.
[11:25] <trappist> e17 is a nightmare.
[11:25] <n0odl3> trappist: so it automatically defragmented... How often will this happen?
[11:25] <blondie> blank: try "locate grub.conf"
[11:25] <n0odl3> trappist: this is the first time it happened to me
[11:25] <blank> nothing
[11:25] <blondie> (I don't appear to have that file)
[11:25] <trappist> n0odl3: depends on your filesystem.  some do it on every write, some do it every 5 seconds, etc.
[11:25] <n0odl3> trappist: write?
[11:25] <trappist> n0odl3: it's just doing a check because it's the 30th time it's been cleanly remounted.
[11:25] <lavandergirl> how much extra space does the live cd gove me?
[11:25] <blank> hey someone where can I find my grub file
[11:25] <darkheart> n0odl3 You don't really have to worry about fragmentation on Linux filesystems..
[11:26] <paul_> #join mysql
[11:26] <n0odl3> trappist:i see... so the next time this happens will be when i mount root on the 60th time?
[11:26] <Xenguy> n0odl3: you pasted it above - every 30 mounts/reboots
[11:26] <erUSUL> n0odl3, no it not defragmented it is fsck'ed every 30 boots
[11:26] <darkheart> blank /boot/grub
[11:26] <trappist> n0odl3: 30 mounts from now or the next time you shut down improperly
[11:26] <ubuntu_> hola
[11:26] <userphp> Hello I'd need someone who can help me in very basic PHP
[11:26] <trappist> userphp: /join #php
[11:26] <nicholas1paul> how basic?
[11:26] <ubuntu_> hello
[11:27] <darkheart> userphp I would guess the folks in #php
[11:27] <dirkson> Oh! Here's an easy one- How do I shutdown xwindows and get to the command prompt? Any normal way to do that?
[11:27] <blank> I cant find my grub.conf! :(
[11:27] <darkheart> ...though they tend to be a bit elitist at times...
[11:27] <userphp> but I don't know if my problem is due to Breezy config error
[11:27] <trappist> dirkson: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:27] <n0odl3> trappist: i c.... thank you
[11:27] <blank> nevermind, my menu.lst is the entries thing right
[11:27] <erUSUL> lavandergirl, ?? extra space? the live cd does not have estra space you only have your ram to write on.
[11:27] <nicholas1paul> shoto userphp
[11:27] <n0odl3> trappist: i thought i had some virus or something
[11:27] <nicholas1paul> i mean, shoot userphp
[11:27] <userphp> nicholas1paul, why?
[11:27] <trappist> n0odl3: you aren't likely to ever get a virus in linux
[11:28] <nicholas1paul> userphp: I mean 'shoot, tell us, go ahead'
[11:28] <nadjyla> lol
[11:28] <userphp> OK
[11:28] <dirkson> tappist: Thanks a bunch! : )
[11:28] <dirkson> *trappist
[11:28] <erUSUL> dirkson, Crtl + Alt + Fn will bring you a login screen Crtl + Alt F7 to go back to X
[11:28] <n0odl3> trappist: thank you for the reassurace ^_^
[11:28] <lavandergirl> erUSUL, yea actually that makes sence *blush*
[11:28] <userphp> my php scripts can't execute "if ($id)" instructions
[11:28] <axel> trappist: about my "c compiler cannot create executables" error from ealier, just to say that i needed to install libc-dev... thought u might want to know
[11:29] <userphp> for example
[11:29] <DJHasis> Nice that the atibinarydriverhowto didn't much help me
[11:29] <eric> Why is it that when I go to install K3B through the Synaptic Package Manager, that it wants to remove Skype & libqt3c102-mt??
[11:29] <erUSUL> lavandergirl, ;)
[11:29] <trappist> DJHasis: it helps everybody else.  I suspect operator error.
[11:29] <ken> linux is the easist system i seen to blow just one wrong file in place the whole system crashes
[11:29] <nicholas1paul> userphp - you mean conditional statements?
[11:29] <userphp> if I assign a variable through the browser querystring
[11:29] <DJHasis> Now I get an error that module load failure
[11:29] <lavandergirl> erUSUL, i blame it on the time, 10:30 is way past my bedtime ;)
[11:29] <trappist> userphp: register globlas
[11:29] <trappist> *globals
[11:29] <darkheart> eric Probably package dependency conflicts.
[11:29] <userphp> yes, cond. statement without parameter
[11:30] <DJHasis> trappist: ?
[11:30] <trappist> userphp: it's insecure and therefore disabled
[11:30] <nicholas1paul> userphp thats not a ubuntu issue.
[11:30] <userphp> trappist, I'm learning php (1st day) :)
[11:30] <eric> darkheart: so in other words, there's no way to run Skype and K3B without conflicts??
[11:30] <trappist> userphp: use $_REQUEST['id'] 
[11:30] <darkheart> ken You can destroy a few OSes by removing certain key files.
[11:30] <blank> is there a thing I can use to edit my grub entries
[11:30] <fletch33> i know this is going to sound dumb but i want ot get ths software and it is asking me what ver. i want and my choices are NLD,IDS, and Fedora Core 2
[11:30] <nicholas1paul> userphp you have either a syntax error, or the var. is not known.
[11:30] <erUSUL> lavandergirl, well not in spain for a fryday night 23:30 here and counting... :D
[11:30] <RWG> Fearan
[11:30] <ken> i crashed by adding a file
[11:30] <RWG> omg
[11:30] <nicholas1paul> userphp - that other guy was right -> #php :) good luck
[11:31] <trappist> nicholas1paul: the var is not known because register_globals is disabled
[11:31] <Fearan> hey rwg
[11:31] <klemens> hello
[11:31] <RWG> you are here, too
[11:31] <RWG> lol
[11:31] <DJHasis> blank: use a text-editor for example nano or vim
[11:31] <Fearan> yes i am
[11:31] <Fearan> i run ubuntu
[11:31] <ken> using webmin
[11:31] <RWG> whoa
[11:31] <nicholas1paul> trappist yup.
[11:31] <darkheart> eric I'm not gonna say for sure yes, but it may turn out that way if they prevent each other from install dependent packages.
[11:31] <userphp> trappist, if ($_REQUEST['id'] ) ?
[11:31] <GregAsche> how can I disable that message that plays whenever I go to open a .wmv file?
[11:31] <DJHasis> blank: grub-entries are located at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:31] <nicholas1paul> userphp - i strongly suggest you try #php
[11:31] <GregAsche> it tells me the file type is asf, and I have to right click and open the file
[11:31] <ken> newbie learning trying too give linux a chance
[11:31] <userphp> ok, thank you - so it's not a Breezy thingy
[11:31] <userphp> saved me a lot of trouble
[11:32] <fletch33> no it isnt
[11:32] <nicholas1paul> no userphp its not.
[11:32] <nicholas1paul> np
[11:32] <hubuntu> morning...
[11:32] <userphp> very kind of you
[11:32] <trappist> userphp: yes
[11:32] <nicholas1paul> :)
[11:32] <fletch33> can someone answer this i know this is going to sound dumb but i want ot get ths software and it is asking me what ver. i want and my choices are NLD,IDS, and Fedora Core 2
[11:32] <eric> darkheart:  Does this happen often?  I need Skype, but I also need something to burn CD's...
[11:32] <n0odl3> trappist: since it was 1% fragmented when it "checked" does this mean during that "check" the system was being defragmented?
[11:32] <ken> can't seem to install any software unless its in the repository
[11:32] <trappist> nicholas1paul: in other words it's partly ubuntu-specific.  many distros enable register_globals, so it would work out of the box on other distros
[11:32] <blackhat> whats the program to rip dvds in linux like you can in windows w/ dvddecrypter
[11:32] <nicholas1paul> i have trouble of my own!! :-) Anyone familiar with the MA111 USB wifi adapter? I'm trying to get it working in ubuntu - anyone experienced?
[11:32] <Sanne> userphp: this explains $_POST, $_GET and $_REQUEST: http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.variables.external.php
[11:33] <trappist> n0odl3: it defragments constantly
[11:33] <n0odl3> trappist: i see
[11:33] <darkheart> ken You can't install packages through a package manager from anything but a repository.
[11:33] <nicholas1paul> oh i see trappist.
[11:33] <blank> how can I see if my menu.lst for grub was modified correctly, just reboot? what if it didnt, use knoppix to fix it?
[11:33] <n0odl3> trappist: ok thank you... i guess its no longer 1% fragmented?
[11:33] <ken> anyway i can add downloaded packages to repository
[11:33] <trappist> userphp: it sort of is an ubuntu thing - many distros enable register_globals
[11:33] <darkheart> eric What is the exact error?
[11:33] <trappist> n0odl3: it's almost never 0%.  stop worrying about it.
[11:33] <erUSUL> eric, probably skype uses and older version of qt than k3b...
[11:33] <darkheart> n0odl3 Yes, 1% fragmentation is nothing.
[11:34] <blank> I edited my grub menu.lst file
[11:34] <blank> just reboot to see if it worked?
[11:34] <darkheart> n0odl3 You will never maintain a 100% unfragmented filesystem for any length of time.
[11:34] <blank> anyone?
[11:34] <trappist> blank: yes
[11:34] <erUSUL> eric, try gnomebaker or graveman
[11:34] <darkheart> n0odl3 I take that back. If you don't ever use your computer it's possible =)
[11:34] <blank> what happens if it doesnt
[11:34] <blank> though I'm sure it does
[11:34] <blank> nevermind I'll just reboot
[11:34] <n0odl3> darkheart: lol
[11:34] <Snuffii> jest tu jakis polak??
[11:34] <Snuffii> musze pogadac!!
[11:34] <n0odl3> thank you everyone for answering my questions
[11:34] <Pygi> np
[11:34] <eric> There isn't an error.  Synaptec package manager just marks Skype and qt for removal when I go to install K3B.  I'll look into gnomebaker or graveman.  Thanks for the help =)
[11:35] <darkheart> eric Hmm..okay, if you run the command from a terminal though, does it give you anymore info? Like 'sudo apt-get install k3b'
[11:35] <darkheart> n0odl3 Have fun.
[11:36] <darkheart> !pl
[11:36] <ubotu> darkheart: I give up, what is it?
[11:36] <ken> i see the repository files but when trying to drag a download in says i don't have permission anyway to add downloaded files to repository
[11:36] <darkheart> ken Are you trying to install a program?
[11:36] <mumbles> is there anyway i can addmylef to toe suduser list?
[11:36] <ken> yes
[11:36] <mumbles> i managed to take my own admin status away
[11:36] <blackhat> whats the program to rip dvds in linux like you can in windows w/ dvddecrypter, anyone!
[11:37] <eric> darkheart: The following packages will be REMOVED: libqt3c102-mt skype
[11:37] <darkheart> ken System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager.
[11:37] <trappist> blackhat: there's a lot of them.  try DVD::Rip
[11:37] <ken> been there this a download from web
[11:37] <erUSUL> mumbles, if you are already there (with other user) yes
[11:37] <Cran1988>  !tell isai about dns
[11:37] <darkheart> mumbles If you don't have superuser privileges you can't add yourself back =\ You will have to go into single-user mode.
[11:37] <mumbles> :(
[11:37] <mumbles> i still dont know what i did
[11:37] <mumbles> :p
[11:38] <darkheart> eric Hmm...I guess you're stuck then >< I'm not sure if there is or isn't a workaround for that other than installing a different burning soft.
[11:38] <mumbles> can i hack it though the "safemode"?
[11:38] <hubuntu> mumbles do you have somo other users with sudo privileges?
[11:38] <mumbles> i do
[11:39] <eric> darkheart: thanks again for the help, graveman looks promising and doesn't seem to want to remove any of my existing apps, so i'm going to give that whirl :)
[11:39] <darkheart> mumbles Yes, safe mode = Windows term, single-user mode = Linux =P
[11:39] <mumbles> but cant get hold of him
[11:39] <mumbles> ah right
[11:39] <darkheart> eric =) good luck
[11:39] <hubuntu> log into one of them and give yourself back those privileges ;) !
[11:39] <mumbles> i would do
[11:39] <hubuntu> i see...
[11:39] <fletch33> can u tell me if ubuntu is fedora core 2, nld, or what
[11:39] <fletch33> thanks
[11:39] <darkheart> mumbles But yeah, if you have another user with su permissions, that's a lot easier.
[11:39] <hubuntu> ubuntu is ubuntu.. the closest you will get is debian
[11:39] <hubuntu> nld=novell linux desktop
[11:40] <darkheart> fletch33 Ubuntu is debian-based.
[11:40] <eric> darkheart: thanks =)
[11:40] <fletch33> k thanks
[11:40] <darkheart> =)
[11:40] <hubuntu> fletch what are you trying to install anyway?
[11:40] <Claude> hello I'm seeking help for 5.10 Breezy badger
[11:40] <fletch33> if some has a sec could they look at this and tell me if it will work   http://www.resolvo.com/products/moveover/index.htm
[11:41] <mumbles> buggerit
[11:41] <mumbles> im just going to download breazey badger and start again
[11:41] <blank> hey guys...uh...I dont know if I install right, cause like, my repositories are just one
[11:41] <blank> and my system is 'up to date'
[11:41] <blank> how can I check waht version of ubuntu I have
[11:41] <erUSUL> Claude, ask the channel
[11:41] <Claude> I have breezy badger 5.10 of a DVD version and I can'tinstall .deb packages
[11:41] <Jaivaz> I found Bulldozer on gnomefiles.org and I have tried to install it. However, it tells me that I need libnautilus. I did a search for it and I can't find it
[11:42] <erUSUL> blackhat, cat /etc/lsb-release
[11:42] <blank> any help?
[11:42] <darkheart> Claude Stick to using the repositories when you can.
[11:42] <hubuntu> fetch im on it.. ill take a look.. are you using breezy 5.10?
[11:42] <blank> Can someone tell me how to find out what version of ubuntu I'm running
[11:42] <fletch33> not sure i just loaded this last night
[11:42] <Claude> how do I install opera on 5.10 then?
[11:43] <erUSUL> blank, cat /etc/lsb-release
[11:43] <RustyJuggler> I am trying to install the official NVIDIA drivers, but I get several errors. I have the wrong version of gcc (4.0 instead of 3.4). I have installed both, how do I chose which one to use
[11:43] <blank> nevermind it's 5.10 alright
[11:43] <erUSUL> blackhat, sorry tab completion mistake.. O:)
[11:43] <darkheart> !tell Claude about opera
[11:43] <blank> for some reason...my update manager says I'm up to date, when usually I have to like, download all these updates and stuff
[11:43] <darkheart> Claude The link at the end may help you.
[11:43] <blackhat> lol ;-)
[11:43] <Blippe> eric, it would be better to follow lhtown from http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77189.html
[11:43] <blackhat> I just saw my name and im like uhh
[11:44] <erUSUL> RustyJuggler, export CC=gcc-3.4 on the shell you are using
[11:44] <Blippe> eric, and then get k3b
[11:44] <mumbles> wonders whats going to download first
[11:44] <mumbles> debian or ubuntu
[11:44] <fletch33> thanks hu
[11:44] <Claude> how i install .deb packages on ubuntu 5.10?
[11:44] <tristanmike> Claude, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:44] <darkheart> Claude 'dpkg -i package.deb'
[11:44] <blank> GUYS I NEED HELP IM CONFUSED *panting* when I go to my repositories, it only shows 'CD Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger"', WHATS WRONG! :'(
[11:45] <blank> I think this is why I cant get updates
[11:45] <darkheart> !tell blank about repositories
[11:45] <tristanmike> Claude, errr, sudo depending on what it is
[11:45] <Claude> ok
[11:45] <blank> darkheart I already frickin know about repositories
[11:45] <blank> is anyone willing to listen to me explain
[11:45] <erUSUL> !tell blank about repos
[11:45] <Claude> k
[11:45] <Pygi> blank: ah, find sources.list and enable repositories there
[11:45] <darkheart> blank That's not a very nice attitude to ask for help.
[11:45] <blank> sorry, it's just that you dont listen :(
[11:45] <RustyJuggler> I also get an error if I continue with the 4.0 version. It can't find nvidia.ko or something. It says it has compiled for the wrong kernel, but my kernel source is the right one
[11:46] <Pygi> blank: go to sources.list and enable repositories
[11:46] <erUSUL> blank, read what ubotu told you
[11:46] <blank> watch, earlier I was having probs with my ubuntu, so I reinstalled, same cd and all, and usually it has the repositories and it gives me all these updates to download as soon as I start, but now, none of the repositories are there and no updates
[11:46] <blank> Guys, I already know how to add repositotires, what I'm saying is that, usually the repositories are there and now they're not
[11:47] <erUSUL> !tell RustyJuggler about nvidia
[11:47] <hubuntu> fletch33 I have seen that  before... Well.. my shot would be at the v4 for linspire.. even though I do not have much love left for linspire (never have, never will) it is debian based... i mean "if anything" that is the one that should work. Now there is a lot of differences in packages and generally things between ubuntu and linspire (among others gnome - try the KDE based kubuntu - it might give you some more luck) it may work.. who knows..
[11:47] <blank> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908)] / breezy main restricted
[11:47] <blank> is what it has
[11:47] <blank> I think I installed wrong :'(
[11:47] <Xenguy> blank: tried 'apt-get setup' ?
[11:47] <hubuntu> another way to do it is just start all over again. collect your mail from now on in ubuntu and well... go on!
[11:47] <blank> invalid operation setup
[11:48] <blank> I think it's that though, cause I think I skipped that step in installation :'(
[11:48] <erUSUL> blank, edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly
[11:48] <fletch33> thanks i am lsing my mind o nthis contacts and email from outlook issue
[11:48] <blank> Xenguy: :( I think I skipped the apt get setup step in installation
[11:48] <blank> how can I do it
[11:48] <blank> again
[11:48] <hubuntu> fletch33... is it the first time you try linux?
[11:48] <blank> Xenguy! :'(
[11:48] <mdke> howdy
[11:48] <fletch33> last night i started and staed up till 4 am
[11:48] <blank> man and I thought I'd installed it right this time
[11:49] <fletch33> i do not even know how to install anyhting
[11:49] <alewis> o.O
[11:49] <Xenguy> blank: listen, either do 'sudo apt-setup', or else do $EDITOR /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:49] <fletch33> completely lost
[11:49] <fletch33> lol
[11:49] <erUSUL> blank, replace your /etc/sources.list with the one ubotu told you
[11:49] <hubuntu> :) Think of this as the first steps of your way in ubuntu land... noce you see the dawn and the horizon shine you will never go back!
[11:49] <alewis> Ubuntu has apt-get right (I assume from our tip about fletch33 )
[11:49] <blank> *wipes tear* okay xenguy, I think I got it
[11:49] <fbafelipe> I have two devices conected on sound (any one conected directly with the computer), and the sound goes only to the first. How do I configure to the sound output go to both?
[11:49] <Blippe> !tell Blippe about repositories
[11:49] <fletch33> well i am ing really frustrated to say the least
[11:50] <dell500> how do you get dual monitors to work with fglrx?
[11:50] <Blippe> !sources
[11:50] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:50] <hubuntu> I understand. Well what do you use? Outlook express or Office outlook?
[11:50] <blank> *sob* *hugs xenguy* thanks bud! :'(
[11:50] <fletch33> i just want my e,ail and contacts and i will take my time on the rest
[11:50] <Shithole2k> hi
[11:50] <fletch33> office 2003
[11:50] <fletch33> outlook
[11:50] <Shithole2k> I need some desperate help
[11:50] <Xenguy> blank: stop sobbing all over us :-)
[11:50] <hubuntu> ok
[11:51] <blank> I never thought I'd be happy to download all these frickin updates (takes me hours)
[11:51] <Shithole2k> where do I get the fstab?
[11:51] <erUSUL> Shithole2k, ask
[11:51] <fletch33> i am almost there but evolution wont give me the option to choose my file type when importing so i am stuck
[11:51] <hubuntu> give me 5 minutes and i'll figure out something.. by the way. Do you have your e-mail lying on a server? or access to a IMAP server or the like? (mail server)
[11:51] <alewis> hah
[11:51] <erUSUL> Shithole2k, /etc/fstab
[11:51] <Jaivaz> Has anyone installed "Bulldozer"?
[11:51] <alewis> hrmm >.> <.< inconito
[11:51] <fletch33> i have it converted by mozilla and on an external
[11:52] <bacam> Is something up with Ubuntu's bugzilla?
[11:52] <Shithole2k> My girlfriend's got a virus and I'm trying to fix it with a Live boot of Ubuntu
[11:52] <Shithole2k> But I can't see my harddrive anywhere
[11:52] <erUSUL> Shithole2k, less /etc/fstab to see it. if you know what you are doing nano /etc/fstab to edit it
[11:52] <bacam> I keep getting "You must choose a component to file this bug in" when submitting a bug, but there's no way to select a component...
[11:53] <hubuntu> ok... Everybody: can mozilla thunderbird convert the mailbox to mbox so Evolution can import it on ubuntu?
[11:53] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL, where do I enter that?
[11:53] <stjernjerry> hello
[11:53] <Riddell> bacam: fill in the Package field
[11:53] <Sanne> erUSUL, Dreamfluid: isn't there a tool called disk manager (or similar) for accessing partitions?
[11:53] <fletch33> i did that
[11:53] <erUSUL> hubuntu, thunderbird uses mbox you can convert directly
[11:53] <fletch33> hu
[11:54] <Spurty> !setinfo
 My girlfriend's got a virus and I'm trying to fix it with a Live boot of Ubuntu
[11:54] <ubotu> Spurty: I give up, what is it?
[11:54] <fletch33> i have it converted
[11:54] <Dreamfluid> I've tried the console, but that just gives me "root has to do that
[11:54] <stjernjerry> i need help!
[11:54] <bacam> Riddell: I did.  Curiously it's disappeared when I go back after getting the error.
[11:54] <hubuntu> ok.. what you have to do then is just import the file you have from firefox in the ubuntu e-mail program (which is called evolution ;)
[11:54] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, if you are in a livecd it won't work you have to maunt the disk manually
[11:54] <Dreamfluid> Sanne, yeah, but the activate button doesn't do shit.
[11:55] <hubuntu> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/disk0
[11:55] <stjernjerry> im have been a windows user until today
[11:55] <Sanne> Dreamfluid: funny, as I tried it on my system with the live cd, it worked.
[11:55] <fletch33> it wont import because when i get to file type evo wont let me choose anything
[11:55] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, use mount -t [fstype]  /dev/hdxx /mnt/
[11:55] <stjernjerry> and i want to know how to install programs
[11:55] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: Mount the disc manually? You mean before boot or..?
[11:55] <Sanne> Dreamfluid: did you specify a mount point (and created this directory beforehand)?
[11:55] <RustyJuggler> When I boot Ubuntu I see that HP printer driver and bluetooth devices start, is this something I can turn off, I don't have either
[11:56] <fletch33> i am gettin some dinner before i lose it. i will try back later thanks for your help
[11:56] <hubuntu> fletch if im not wrong i think you may have got at least to files from thunderbird with different extensions... try both...
[11:56] <DJHasis> !tell DJHasis about ati
[11:56] <dell500> how do you find out if 3d accel is work in console?
[11:56] <blank> !tell me too
[11:56] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, for ex. sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/ to mount the usual C: of win
[11:56] <fletch33> i tried both
[11:56] <hubuntu> I just imported my mbox from my old hard drive to this one with breezy.. it worked fine
[11:56] <fbafelipe> I have two devices conected on sound (any one conected directly with the computer), and the sound goes only to the first. How do I configure to the sound output go to both devices?
[11:56] <blank> !tell me about ati
[11:56] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, for ex. "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/" to mount the usual C: of winXP
[11:56] <Dreamfluid> erSUL: it says: "Only root can do that"
[11:56] <fletch33> yeah what happened when you got to browse for sile
[11:57] <fletch33> file
[11:57] <blank> can you tell ubotu to tell me about ati, I think he's mad at me
[11:57] <dell500> !tell blank ati
[11:57] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, no using mount directy with all options
[11:57] <blank> :)
[11:57] <dell500> wierd
[11:57] <fletch33> did u chosse anyhting because mine doesnt even give me automatic as a choice
[11:57] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, use sudo
[11:57] <dell500> says invalid target
[11:57] <Blippe> bland , the name me doesn't work, you have to write your nick
[11:57] <hubuntu> well I just picked up the file from the other hard drive and then I was able to pick it up... then evo did the rest
[11:57] <bacam> Riddell: Ah, I think it didn't like the package name I gave it.
[11:57] <hubuntu> with the wizard...
[11:57] <kevogod> You have to use !tell blank about ati
[11:57] <blank> o lol
[11:57] <blank> :D
[11:57] <blank> thanks
[11:57] <dell500> lo
[11:57] <fletch33> i think i need upgrades or something
[11:57] <hubuntu> nono
[11:57] <kevogod> Or simply use /msg ubotu tell blank about ati
[11:57] <dreumah> does anyone know how to intall x link kai on breazy?
[11:57] <hubuntu> let me see what i did again
[11:57] <hubuntu> one sec
[11:57] <RockyBurt> does anyone here know anything about python setuptools on ubuntu? python2.3-setuptools includes easy_install but python2.4-setuptools doesn't appear to include easy_install
[11:58] <fletch33> k
[11:58] <dreumah> if there is a package or something
[11:58] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: now something happened.. It didn't prompt
[11:58] <dell500> how do you find out if 3d accel is work in console?
[11:59] <blank> uh...can you tell him to tell me about restricted formats, it's not working again
[11:59] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, i'm afraid that for win repair knoppix is a better option than ubuntu livecd
[11:59] <hubuntu> the best optrion is definitely UBCD
[11:59] <marlun> is there a simple calculator you can use through the terminal?
[11:59] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, now the C: files should be visible under /mnt/.
[11:59] <WildZeck> hubuntu, or bart pe (winpe) cdrom :)
[12:00] <hubuntu> for win repair (or knoppix... depends on how damaged it is ;)
[12:00] <Dreamfluid> crap
[12:00] <Dreamfluid> I just want to copy a couple of files