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| mhz | hi there | 12:27 |
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| mhz | I may need some assistance | 12:27 |
| arkan0x | mhz, hi | 12:28 |
| mhz | holas | 12:28 |
| arkan0x | man~ana vas al cdsl ? | 12:28 |
| mhz | sipo | 12:28 |
| arkan0x | rlz | 12:29 |
| mhz | I have 2 issues | 12:29 |
| mhz | when booting, the pc gets stuck at: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts does not exist. PDF support disabled | 12:30 |
| mhz | it stays there for about 1 minute | 12:30 |
| mhz | then it continues but gets stuck again at: checking battery state .... ok | 12:31 |
| mhz | obviously, by pressing Alt+F1 I get to a login prompt | 12:31 |
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| mhz | Alt+F8 still shows the attery checking'stuff | 12:32 |
| mhz | Alt+F8 still shows the battery checking'stuff | 12:32 |
| mhz | highvoltage, any ideas_ | 12:32 |
| mhz | highvoltage, any ideas? | 12:32 |
| mhz | ogra, any? | 12:33 |
| mhz | oh, it seems i installed a pre-release candidate | 12:35 |
| mhz | duh! | 12:35 |
| mhz | maybe all stuff has been worked on | 12:35 |
| mhz | arkan0x, a que hora necesitas que vaya? ira JCI ? | 12:36 |
| mhz | sabes si hay forma de revisar el cable de 15 mts que tengo? (cupongo que tiene pifia en algun segmento) | 12:37 |
| mhz | debo deslogearm un rato | 12:37 |
| mhz | vuelvo mas tarde | 12:37 |
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| Lord_Athur | hi | 01:07 |
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| kjcole | Quiet place. | 01:09 |
| dnB | HiveDrone, can someone tell me the command to upgrade ubuntu 5.10 to edubuntu 5.10? | 01:09 |
| crimsun | dnB: sudo aptitude install edubuntu-desktop | 01:09 |
| Lord_Athur | hey | 01:10 |
| Lord_Athur | can I install edubuntu 5.10 with hoary? | 01:10 |
| kjcole | Lord_Athur: Something specific you like about hoary over breezy? Or is dist-upgrade not a good idea? | 01:11 |
| crimsun | Lord_Athur: you'll have to dist-upgrade to Breezy first | 01:12 |
| Lord_Athur | I did this crimsun but my sistem could not load the graphic envioment | 01:12 |
| dnB | couldnt find any packages whose name or description matched "edubuntu-desktop" | 01:13 |
| crimsun | dnB: are you running 5.10 with the main repository enabled? | 01:13 |
| dnB | i have no idea to be honest, just finished a netboot install and im at a command line | 01:13 |
| dnB | :P | 01:14 |
| dnB | i also tried sudo apt-get update and it failed | 01:14 |
| dnB | know how i can manually add correct repositories? | 01:14 |
| crimsun | is networking correctly configured? | 01:14 |
| Lord_Athur | :S | 01:14 |
| dnB | it should be, i dont know how to check from command line | 01:14 |
| Lord_Athur | no one+ | 01:14 |
| Lord_Athur | :P | 01:14 |
| dnB | and apparently no gui was installed | 01:14 |
| kjcole | dnB: ifconfig | 01:14 |
| dnB | thanks brb | 01:15 |
| Lord_Athur | how can I upgrade my repositories? | 01:15 |
| Lord_Athur | exist a command for this? | 01:15 |
| dnB | looks fine kjcole | 01:15 |
| dnB | crimsun, yeah network is correct, i was having problems with apt during the install though | 01:15 |
| crimsun | Lord_Athur: sudo sed -i s/hoary/breezy/ /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade && sudo aptitude install edubuntu-desktop | 01:16 |
| kjcole | dnB: ping somewhere to see if you're reaching out to the world. | 01:16 |
| dnB | lol nope | 01:16 |
| dnB | im not | 01:16 |
| dnB | what do i need to edit to get network setup correctly? | 01:16 |
| kjcole | dnB: Soooo... your system knows it's IP address (so sayeth ifconfig) but it doesn't see the world. Static IP or DHCP? | 01:17 |
| dnB | dhcp | 01:17 |
| dnB | and gedit isnt here either ;( | 01:17 |
| dnB | i wish the cdrom was working so i could use a disc | 01:17 |
| dnB | do you know how i can edit so that i can fix and get packages? | 01:18 |
| dnB | hrm, my router returns a ping | 01:18 |
| dnB | indefinitely apparently :D | 01:19 |
| kjcole | dnB: Yeah, a lot of stuff used to respond to ping forever. | 01:19 |
| dnB | do you happen to know which file i should edit to get this working correctly? | 01:19 |
| kjcole | dnB: During bootup, do you know if it sees the CD drive? | 01:19 |
| dnB | it does, the cdrom just doesnt read right | 01:20 |
| kjcole | dnB: What's the symptom? | 01:21 |
| dnB | cant read files | 01:21 |
| dnB | trying to make do without it for the moment though | 01:21 |
| dnB | apparently it installed vim as the only text editor | 01:21 |
| kjcole | dnB: but it mounts okay? | 01:21 |
| dnB | yeah, it finds it | 01:22 |
| dnB | just has errors when reading files | 01:22 |
| kjcole | dnB: possibly a burn-speed issue with the CD itself. Any other CD's handy that you can try reading? | 01:22 |
| dnB | newp :) | 01:23 |
| kjcole | dnB: You're no fun. ;-) | 01:23 |
| dnB | lol i know | 01:23 |
| dnB | ok i Vim'ed /etc/network/interfaces, dont really know what im looking at | 01:24 |
| kjcole | dnB: So, clearly, you're on the net somewhere at the moment. Does the machine you're on read the CD okay? | 01:24 |
| dnB | the machine im on also has a busted cdrom lol | 01:24 |
| dnB | however this one is under warranty and will be replaced soon | 01:24 |
| dnB | so cdrom isnt an option :( | 01:24 |
| dnB | the last line in /interfaces is "iface eth0 inet dhcp" | 01:25 |
| dnB | sounds right, ya? | 01:25 |
| dnB | also, when i try to ping outside the lan, it doesnt time out, just says unknown host | 01:26 |
| kjcole | dnB: It does... (I wish I could double-check, but I'm sitting at work in front of a Fedora box at the moment. My Edubuntu machine is sitting at home.) | 01:26 |
| dnB | :) ah | 01:26 |
| dnB | well i have no idea what to do from this point on | 01:27 |
| dnB | i think ill reboot | 01:27 |
| dnB | and hope something goes differently | 01:27 |
| dnB | dont understand why im missing so many packages either | 01:27 |
| dnB | :/ | 01:27 |
| kjcole | dnB: Good luck. I think I'm going to split, and try to get back on when I get home, so that I know what I'm talking about. ;-)) | 01:28 |
| dnB | thanks kjcole :) | 01:28 |
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| mhz | hi | 03:19 |
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| mhz | arkan0x: ping | 05:12 |
| mhz | arkan0x: ira reinaldo? | 05:12 |
| arkan0x | mmm se supone que si , pero como alas 2 | 05:13 |
| mhz | shhhaaa | 05:13 |
| arkan0x | pq a ese hora sale de clase | 05:13 |
| mhz | quien pondra el desayuno? | 05:13 |
| mhz | :) | 05:13 |
| arkan0x | emmm , beto | 05:13 |
| mhz | estara abierto el sindicato? | 05:13 |
| arkan0x | se supone que si , pero llega como alas 1130 mejol | 05:14 |
| mhz | AFAIK, tienen fama de ser tardios | 05:14 |
| mhz | y tu? | 05:14 |
| arkan0x | yo llego cmo alas 1130 | 05:14 |
| mhz | ah, ok. | 05:16 |
| mhz | te puedo pedir un gran GRAN favor? | 05:16 |
| mhz | podrias imprimir al menos 1 adhesivo de edubuntu (te mando el logo en el formato que me indiques) | 05:17 |
| mhz | arkan0x: ping | 05:18 |
| arkan0x | ya | 05:18 |
| arkan0x | pero ojo , es blanco y negro nu ma | 05:18 |
| mhz | si claro | 05:21 |
| mhz | te mando el logo de fondo blanco y figura en negro | 05:21 |
| arkan0x | ya | 05:21 |
| mhz | lo necesito en pequeno, no mas ancho que el hackaday | 05:22 |
| mhz | bkn | 05:22 |
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| mhz | en que formato te sirve/prefieres? | 05:22 |
| arkan0x | png | 05:24 |
| mhz | ok... estoy en eso | 05:26 |
| mhz | arkan0x: imprime escala de grises? | 05:28 |
| arkan0x | mmm nu sabo | 05:28 |
| mhz | ok | 05:28 |
| arkan0x | probemos igual | 05:28 |
| mhz | negro entonces sera | 05:28 |
| mhz | te mandare 1 y 1 | 05:28 |
| mhz | ya | 05:40 |
| mhz | donde te los mando, arkan0x | 05:40 |
| mhz | ? | 05:40 |
| arkan0x | 05:42 | |
| mhz | okidoki | 05:43 |
| mhz | arkan0x: ping en query | 05:46 |
| arkan0x | mhz, | 05:50 |
| mhz | enviados | 05:51 |
| arkan0x | okis | 05:51 |
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| mhz | nos vemos, Mr. Rlz | 06:17 |
| mhz | gracias por la impresion | 06:17 |
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| mhz | hi | 02:30 |
| Yagisan | G'day mhz | 02:30 |
| mhz | gday | 02:30 |
| Yagisan | managed to hurt myself the other day | 02:31 |
| Yagisan | getting pains all up and down my right arm | 02:32 |
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| mhz | Yagisan: why? how? | 02:32 |
| Yagisan | Doctor said it is "Repetitive Strain Injury", and I should take a rest from using the computer | 02:32 |
| mhz | wow | 02:32 |
| mhz | that is SERIOUS | 02:32 |
| Yagisan | so, I nodded and said yes, and have been trying to do it left handed | 02:33 |
| Yagisan | as I can't eat, if I don't use the pc | 02:33 |
| Yagisan | so it has slowed me down | 02:33 |
| Yagisan | doctor said I use the pc/mouse too much, and pick my girl up too much with just my right arm | 02:34 |
| mhz | oh, how about 'voice commands'? | 02:34 |
| Yagisan | It has made me look into a better voice command system | 02:35 |
| Yagisan | but that doesn't seem very functional | 02:35 |
| Yagisan | at the moment :( | 02:35 |
| Yagisan | I can find things that eg open www browsers | 02:37 |
| Yagisan | but no open source things that also do dictation style input | 02:37 |
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| Yagisan | mhz, good luck at CDSL | 02:39 |
| stef_ | Hi | 02:40 |
| Yagisan | G'day stef_ | 02:41 |
| stef_ | I've got a question | 02:41 |
| stef_ | Can U help ? | 02:41 |
| Yagisan | stef_: maybe - what's wrong ? | 02:42 |
| ogra | depends what your question is :) | 02:42 |
| ogra | just ask ;) | 02:42 |
| stef_ | I'm new to this Edubuntu, I've workt with Ubuntu for a few months now. | 02:42 |
| stef_ | I've got Edubuntu installed, and it looks verry nice. Thanks for the great job. | 02:43 |
| stef_ | but.... | 02:43 |
| stef_ | When I startup a client to log on to the edubuntu server it hangs at the login prompt. | 02:44 |
| ogra | define "hangs" | 02:44 |
| ogra | you got a graphical login ? | 02:44 |
| stef_ | I see the graphical login, but after the login it trows me back to the login again. | 02:44 |
| ogra | ok | 02:45 |
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| ogra | check the file /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts | 02:45 |
| Yagisan | that sounds like the ssh keys issue | 02:45 |
| ogra | it should contain a key (long line with letters and numbers) | 02:45 |
| stef_ | During startup I see a few 'fails'. I'm not sure what they are. It flashes tru the screen. | 02:45 |
| ogra | thats normal, ignore them | 02:46 |
| Yagisan | startup fails are harmless | 02:46 |
| stef_ | Ok, so thats normal. I thought that would be the problem. | 02:46 |
| ogra | the startscripts are not adjusted for readonly filesystems yet... | 02:46 |
| ogra | its cosmetic | 02:46 |
| stef_ | So I have to concentrate on SSH ? | 02:46 |
| ogra | yup | 02:46 |
| stef_ | OK. I'll take a look at that. | 02:47 |
| ogra | check this file, if its empty or nonexistesnt, run_ | 02:47 |
| Yagisan | on the server run ltsp-update-sshkeys and reboot the client | 02:47 |
| Yagisan | ha - beat you then ogra | 02:47 |
| stef_ | OK. | 02:47 |
| ogra | sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server | 02:47 |
| ogra | Yagisan, missed sudo ;p | 02:47 |
| Yagisan | my arm is now killing me | 02:47 |
| ogra | i know that feeling, have rsi too... | 02:47 |
| ogra | take some days off | 02:47 |
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| stef_ | Working on this now, also be back in a few sec. | 02:48 |
| Yagisan | re | 02:49 |
| Yagisan | ogra, I wish I could take some time off | 02:49 |
| Yagisan | but I can't | 02:50 |
| ogra | try to find another position for working.... moveyour body every half hour .... | 02:50 |
| ogra | (get a dog and go walking frequently ;) ) | 02:50 |
| Yagisan | well, I get a new baby in a few days | 02:51 |
| Yagisan | that means I will cook, and clean, and make house | 02:51 |
| ogra | fine :) | 02:52 |
| Yagisan | so I won't get to touch the pc as much | 02:52 |
| ogra | that will help a bit | 02:52 |
| Yagisan | I hope so. ogra, your rsi - also your arm ? | 02:55 |
| ogra | yup, right elbow | 02:56 |
| ogra | and sometimes the sholder | 02:57 |
| Yagisan | that sounds just like mine | 02:57 |
| ogra | it comes and goes | 02:57 |
| Yagisan | my wrist is ok | 02:57 |
| Yagisan | it is the inside (folded) part of the elbow that hurts most | 02:58 |
| ogra | for me its the ankle | 02:58 |
| ogra | and rather the outside part | 02:58 |
| mhz | i used to have that in my lower arm | 02:58 |
| mhz | esp. after a bike stupid accident | 02:59 |
| mhz | on which i landed with my elbow | 02:59 |
| stef_ | Guys, do I need to reboot for the changes ? | 03:00 |
| mhz | nope | 03:00 |
| Yagisan | mhz, I have stories to tell about bike accidents | 03:00 |
| stef_ | DHCPD won't start. | 03:00 |
| Yagisan | stef_: just the client | 03:00 |
| ogra | stef_, you need to reboot the client | 03:00 |
| stef_ | another problem ? | 03:00 |
| ogra | yup | 03:00 |
| ogra | is the interface up ? | 03:00 |
| mhz | ogra: I have successfully login after updating ssh. no need to reboot client | 03:01 |
| ogra | (the one that serves the clients) | 03:01 |
| stef_ | Yes, I dit, but the client can't get a IP. It worked fine before. | 03:01 |
| Yagisan | stef_: did you change anything with the dhcp configuration ? | 03:01 |
| stef_ | Not since the last reboot. | 03:01 |
| stef_ | interface, taht a good one ;-) I'll check. | 03:01 |
| ogra | and you only edited /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, not /etc/dhcpd.conf, right ? | 03:01 |
| ogra | (like the docs say) | 03:02 |
| Yagisan | mhz - there was one accident where I crashed and had the handle bar punch a hole through my abdomen | 03:03 |
| stef_ | Yep. | 03:03 |
| mhz | ogra: so, is it logical i never rebooted non_logedin_clients after running key updates? | 03:04 |
| stef_ | Interface is up (2'nd network card) | 03:04 |
| mhz | Yagisan: you were nuts then | 03:04 |
| mhz | xtreme Yagi | 03:04 |
| Yagisan | mhz: nope, someone "helped" by shoving a metal bar into the front wheel | 03:05 |
| stef_ | Is'nt there a nice webinterface to check these items ? | 03:05 |
| mhz | Yagisan: any way I can get to know why a RJ45 cable works once in a while? Any way I can get to determine which segment may be broken? | 03:05 |
| Yagisan | mhz: you need a cable tester | 03:06 |
| mhz | duh! | 03:06 |
| mhz | lol | 03:06 |
| mhz | Yagisan: nice friends you ha | 03:06 |
| Yagisan | mhz: it sends signals down the cable and measures the time it takes to reflect | 03:06 |
| mhz | Yagisan: nice friends you had | 03:06 |
| Yagisan | mhz: Oh, I didn't call them friends | 03:06 |
| Yagisan | mhz: some new asus m/b have built in cable tester | 03:07 |
| Yagisan | stef_: no, no web interface | 03:07 |
| mhz | oh, you recited names of their mothers and family? | 03:07 |
| mhz | :D | 03:07 |
| mhz | asus rocks! | 03:08 |
| Yagisan | mhz: No, I just made them feel "inadequate" in many sensitive respects | 03:08 |
| stef_ | hmm, pitty. But there is a kind of webinterface to the teacherstool/pet ? | 03:08 |
| ogra | stef_, and the ip matches the range you gave in dhcpd.conf ? | 03:08 |
| ogra | stef_, nope, no webinterface... the target is to make it just work, so you wont need to look at these files in the naext release anymore | 03:08 |
| stef_ | something like http://localhost:7xx | 03:08 |
| Yagisan | stef_: as edubuntu is mostly plug in and turn on | 03:09 |
| mhz | stef_: probably WebMin | 03:09 |
| Yagisan | you don't need to change much (if anything) | 03:09 |
| ogra | stef_, there is no teachertool yet... only a spec | 03:09 |
| stef_ | I could install WebMin. | 03:09 |
| Yagisan | mhz: I object to webmin on security grounds | 03:09 |
| mhz | stef_: "probably" WebMin :D | 03:09 |
| Yagisan | stef_: you would need to reconfigure webmin extensively | 03:10 |
| stef_ | I played with it a few time, maybe I screwed up something. I'll try a fresh install. | 03:10 |
| mhz | Yagisan: I agree, however, he asks | 03:10 |
| stef_ | Thanks for the help. | 03:10 |
| ogra | stef_, if its only the dhcp, thats faster to fix than doing a reinstall | 03:10 |
| Yagisan | yes, but I'm sure we can find a better tool for him | 03:10 |
| mhz | stef_: could you paste somewhere | 03:11 |
| mhz | ? | 03:11 |
| stef_ | It should work right 'out of the box' | 03:11 |
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| ogra | post your ifconfi output and the content of /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to a pastebin | 03:11 |
| mhz | maybe this way we can all see potential errors | 03:11 |
| ogra | *ifconfig | 03:11 |
| Yagisan | and fix them | 03:11 |
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| Belutz | ogra, ping! | 03:12 |
| ogra | Belutz, pong | 03:12 |
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| Belutz | ogra, are there any edubuntu evangelist near Indonesia? | 03:13 |
| ogra | Belutz, jsgotango | 03:13 |
| Belutz | ah i see | 03:13 |
| Yagisan | stef_: there is a pastebin here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ | 03:13 |
| Belutz | do you think he is free on december 3rd? | 03:13 |
| Belutz | i think he said something about korea in december | 03:14 |
| ogra | no idea, you need to catch and ask him | 03:14 |
| ogra | he has a new job afaik | 03:14 |
| stef_ | Ahh, the pastbin. Hold on. | 03:14 |
| Belutz | yes, i read that on p.u.c | 03:14 |
| mhz | ogra: any news on ML? I had wikied a ChileanLoCo team on the council page and Rolando Blanco deleted it and kept the LatinAmerican LoCo :( | 03:14 |
| ogra | put it up again for discussion, make a note aside it that you will re add it to get it discussed ;) | 03:15 |
| mhz | hehehehehehe | 03:15 |
| Belutz | hmm there going to be a debian conference in indonesia, and i'm thinking if there could be someone from ubuntu that could come, if there is, i will ask the event commitee to make the slot available for edubuntu/ubuntu presentation | 03:16 |
| mhz | ogra: very polite solution | 03:16 |
| ogra | :) | 03:16 |
| ogra | Belutz, cool :) | 03:16 |
| mhz | Belutz: and if there isn't, you can become one | 03:16 |
| ogra | i hope jsgotango finds time for it... i'm not aware of anyone else who could fill the gap :) | 03:16 |
| Belutz | mhz, yes, although i'm now a member, but i don't think i'm ready to do a presentation | 03:16 |
| Yagisan | too far for me atm | 03:17 |
| mhz | oh | 03:17 |
| Belutz | the guest speaker will be Richard M. Stallman | 03:17 |
| stef_ | Yagisan: I'm new to this pastbin, but i put the output of ifconfig and dhcpd.conf in the pastbin. | 03:17 |
| mhz | i hope he changes his talk this time :) | 03:17 |
| ogra | stef_, it should have given you a url, post this here | 03:17 |
| Belutz | i'm thinking that if someone from edubuntu could come, then we could distribute edubuntu to elementary school for the whole country | 03:18 |
| Belutz | but of course, i have to do a lot translation before it could be done | 03:18 |
| stef_ | I've posted it. | 03:18 |
| Yagisan | stef_] s url http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4408 | 03:18 |
| stef_ | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4408 | 03:19 |
| stef_ | too late '-) | 03:19 |
| ogra | Belutz, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/ there is my (not very good) talk from ubuntu love day... but you could use it as a base | 03:19 |
| Yagisan | stef_ you subnet is for an interface you are not connected to | 03:19 |
| Yagisan | subnet192.168.100.0netmask255.255.255.0{ | 03:20 |
| Belutz | ogra, ok, i'll take a look at it :-) | 03:20 |
| Yagisan | change 100 to 0 | 03:20 |
| stef_ | eth 1 ? | 03:20 |
| ogra | stef_, thats 192.168.0.10 | 03:20 |
| ogra | stef_, make that 192.168.100.10 | 03:20 |
| ogra | and it will work | 03:20 |
| ogra | the dhcp server can only work if the ip of the interface matches the range in dhcpd.conf | 03:21 |
| ogra | so either change the file or the ip of the interfac | 03:21 |
| ogra | e | 03:22 |
| stef_ | Yep, it works. But...... | 03:22 |
| ogra | ? | 03:23 |
| stef_ | What about this http://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPServerSetup | 03:23 |
| stef_ | I changed all the 0 to 100 | 03:23 |
| ogra | Follow these steps after the install (you need to know the IP address you used on install; in the following example we'll assume the IP 192.168.100.2 was chosen as the IP address during install): | 03:23 |
| ogra | ;) | 03:24 |
| ogra | and.... | 03:24 |
| ogra | If you selected an IP similar to 192.168.0.XXX (where XXX is a number between 1 and 254) during install, there is no need to read on, as your server will already be configured. | 03:24 |
| stef_ | Ok, but the client starts up now . | 03:24 |
| ogra | its in the top section ;) | 03:24 |
| stef_ | So i'm happy. | 03:24 |
| ogra | great | 03:24 |
| stef_ | Guys/girls IT WORKS !! Thanks for your help. | 03:26 |
| ogra | :) | 03:26 |
| ogra | great ... | 03:26 |
| stef_ | learned again. Even NAT works. I'll go futher from here. | 03:27 |
| stef_ | Thanks again. And see you later. | 03:27 |
| stef_ | Bye | 03:27 |
| Yagisan | execellent - donations to #edubunu users with rsi, c/o you capital city :) | 03:28 |
| mhz | LOL!!! | 03:28 |
| stef_ | ;-) | 03:28 |
| ogra | *grin* | 03:28 |
| mhz | ikks: ping | 03:28 |
| ikks | pong pm | 03:29 |
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| mhz | ogra: so ML will depend on Councils decission to accept me as 'member'? | 03:33 |
| ogra | mhz, yup | 03:33 |
| mhz | ok | 03:33 |
| ikks | mhz sincronizando SystemPagesInSpanishGroup y SystemPagesInEnglishGroup | 03:34 |
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| mhz | and do most of them also notice that edubuntu is much more education/social stuff than linux? | 03:34 |
| mhz | ikks: ohhh, por eso la demora :D | 03:34 |
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| mhz | arkan0x: te pille!!!! | 03:35 |
| mhz | aun no vas al CDSL!!! | 03:35 |
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| mhz | Yagisan: you must not write | 03:35 |
| mhz | :) | 03:35 |
| mhz | nor complain | 03:35 |
| ikks | mhz I'm sending you private messages :) | 03:36 |
| Yagisan | mhz: I'm not complaining - I just can't contribute in spanish | 03:36 |
| mhz | arkan0x: edubuntu adhesives ready? | 03:36 |
| mhz | Yagisan: your japaneese is imporoving. I hope you realize you could write from right to left :) | 03:37 |
| arkan0x | mhz, ! yea | 03:37 |
| arkan0x | mhz, eske ayer te imprimi algunos , pero no salelieron bien | 03:37 |
| mhz | ohhhh, thanz | 03:37 |
| arkan0x | eran de 4x5 cm | 03:38 |
| mhz | rlz | 03:38 |
| mhz | y no se v ein bien? | 03:38 |
| arkan0x | ahora toy probando de 3x3 cm | 03:38 |
| mhz | aahh | 03:38 |
| mhz | ok | 03:38 |
| Yagisan | mhz: yeah, but right to left is for vertical text, otherwise it is left to right :) | 03:38 |
| arkan0x | podrias mandarme algunos con mas resolucion | 03:38 |
| mhz | arkan0x: sip | 03:38 |
| arkan0x | onda mas grandes para que se impriman de 4x5 cm salgan mas rlz | 03:38 |
| mhz | arkan0x: cuan grande era el mas grande? | 03:39 |
| arkan0x | onda yo imprimi unos debian y kedaron bakan chikos | 03:39 |
| mhz | (how big was the bigger) | 03:39 |
| Yagisan | brb - need to test bug report on deng | 03:39 |
| arkan0x | haber | 03:39 |
| mhz | Yagisan: have nice evening | 03:39 |
| arkan0x | era de 214x268 | 03:40 |
| mhz | se ve bien? | 03:40 |
| arkan0x | nu tanto | 03:40 |
| mhz | does that look good? | 03:40 |
| arkan0x | en 4x5 | 03:40 |
| mhz | entronces necesitas mayor resolucion solamente? | 03:40 |
| arkan0x | yep | 03:40 |
| mhz | then you need more resolution only? | 03:41 |
| mhz | ok | 03:41 |
| mhz | tienes tiempo ahora? seguro? | 03:41 |
| mhz | have time now? sure? | 03:41 |
| arkan0x | eeee , mandamelos dp , igual te voy a imprimir de 3x3 y te llevo una hoja pa ke imprimai tu | 03:42 |
| mhz | ogra: arkan0x is printing me a couple of stickers to test | 03:42 |
| arkan0x | tengo ke irme pal cdsl | 03:42 |
| mhz | okidoki | 03:42 |
| mhz | arkan0x: nos belmont | 03:42 |
| ogra | mhz, cool :) | 03:42 |
| mhz | c ya | 03:42 |
| Yagisan | bye mhz | 03:42 |
| arkan0x | mhz, byez! | 03:43 |
| mhz | ogra: in case we dont see until tuesday, please cross your fingers on monday at 17:00 (chilean time) | 03:43 |
| ogra | i'll do :) | 03:43 |
| mhz | i have the meeting (most important one so faR) with an organization that coordinates 1000 schools in chile | 03:43 |
| mhz | if they get motivated with edubuntu, then can kick some butts here | 03:44 |
| ogra | yay | 03:45 |
| mhz | this year GOv. supported Edulinux on almost 600 schools | 03:46 |
| mhz | however, unsuccessfully | 03:46 |
| mhz | they failed at training and motivating | 03:46 |
| mhz | and they failed because the promoted 'linux' instead of 'educational tools and solution' | 03:47 |
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| mhz | bye all | 03:49 |
| mhz | nice weekend, in case we dont see | 03:49 |
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| bluefrog-10 | can edubuntu (out of the box) on P4,celeron.. can be used with a thin client AMD processor, pls? | 07:34 |
| ogra | amd64 ? | 07:42 |
| ogra | or 32 bit ? | 07:42 |
| bluefrog-10 | no k7 normal amd 32 | 07:42 |
| ogra | that will work fine | 07:42 |
| bluefrog-10 | have pb though | 07:43 |
| ogra | just make sure you use the generic kernel for them | 07:43 |
| ogra | dont use the 686 kernel... | 07:43 |
| bluefrog-10 | ok coming from that | 07:43 |
| bluefrog-10 | so 386, correct? | 07:43 |
| ogra | yup | 07:43 |
| ogra | thats the generic x86 kernel | 07:44 |
| bluefrog-10 | if iam running 86 but have 386 ibstalled as well would that work? | 07:44 |
| ogra | the performance win you get with the 686 kernel is marginal anyway | 07:44 |
| bluefrog-10 | k | 07:44 |
| bluefrog-10 | so i have to change back | 07:44 |
| ogra | the 386 is the default kernel you have installed | 07:44 |
| ogra | and run sudo ltsp-update-kernels after that | 07:45 |
| bluefrog-10 | it's ok i will let 386 from normal install | 07:45 |
| ogra | yup | 07:45 |
| bluefrog-10 | by chance do u have a handy link on how to use /etc/skel? | 07:46 |
| ogra | nope | 07:46 |
| ogra | i guess google is your friend ;) | 07:46 |
| bluefrog-10 | yep found some stuff | 07:46 |
| bluefrog-10 | edubuntu is looking in /etc/skel, correct? | 07:46 |
| ogra | if you want to change gnome settings, gconf is very easy to manipulate | 07:47 |
| ogra | thats app depand | 07:47 |
| bluefrog-10 | yes but i have a bit of difficulty right now to understand how that translate to/etc/skel | 07:47 |
| bluefrog-10 | afterwards u made your change, found an howto for hoary will try it | 07:48 |
| bluefrog-10 | thought there was some stuff in /etc/skel but the only thing i find are 2 bash.rc files | 07:49 |
| bluefrog-10 | or something similar | 07:49 |
| ogra | yup, thats a debian default | 07:49 |
| bluefrog-10 | ok so if i really want to use /etc/skel have to do it myself, correct? | 07:49 |
| ogra | yup | 07:50 |
| bluefrog-10 | by reok | 07:50 |
| bluefrog-10 | ok ty | 07:50 |
| highvoltage | \sh: ping | 08:02 |
| \sh | highvoltage: pong | 08:02 |
| highvoltage | \sh: if i use your lpbugs.py script, will it show in launchpad immediately, or only after lp runs its cron script? | 08:04 |
| highvoltage | and will i receive notification? | 08:04 |
| \sh | highvoltage: 1. u will receive notification 2. after LP runs it | 08:05 |
| \sh | 's cron script | 08:05 |
| \sh | highvoltage: and your used email address must be bound to your LP account | 08:05 |
| highvoltage | i haven't received notification yet :/ | 08:07 |
| \sh | highvoltage: i don't actually know what happend to launchpad today | 08:07 |
| \sh | highvoltage: please ask siretart...he knows more | 08:07 |
| highvoltage | ok. | 08:08 |
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| bluefrog-10 | edubuntu 386, thin client AMD semprom 2200, in server log Ihave tftp client doesn't accept options, is it talking about opitons listed in /etc/default or do I find options elsewhere pls? | 08:37 |
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| bluefrog-10 | edubuntu 386, thin client AMD semprom 2200, in server log I have tftp client doesn't accept options, is it talking about options listed in /etc/default or do I find options elsewhere pls? | 10:58 |
| ogra | /var/log/syslog:Nov 12 22:08:15 edubuntu in.tftpd[24071] : tftp: client does not accept options | 11:02 |
| ogra | this | 11:02 |
| ogra | ? | 11:02 |
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| Hi-G | Bonsoir tous; hello everybody | 11:02 |
| bluefrog-10 | hang on ogra laptop wnet down no more batteries have to run it again | 11:04 |
| bluefrog-10 | but basically yes | 11:04 |
| ogra | bluefrog-10, thats a normal message, nothing to worry about | 11:04 |
| bluefrog-10 | well client not going further | 11:04 |
| ogra | yes, but not caused by this :) | 11:04 |
| bluefrog-10 | ah | 11:04 |
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| ogra | where exactly does it han ? | 11:05 |
| ogra | hang | 11:05 |
| bluefrog-10 | after some init scripts, will run it in a few sec | 11:05 |
| ogra | look if you have a nfs timeout some lines above | 11:05 |
| bluefrog-10 | no timeout | 11:05 |
| bluefrog-10 | client with celeron boots ok, amd not | 11:06 |
| ogra | if you got beyond the initramfs scripts, it should be fine kernel wise | 11:06 |
| ogra | it really looks more like a nfs problem | 11:07 |
| bluefrog-10 | running scripts/nfs-top done | 11:08 |
| ogra | thats the last line on screen ? | 11:08 |
| bluefrog-10 | hanging on some ip config just afetrwards | 11:08 |
| ogra | if it wrote "done" its fine... | 11:08 |
| bluefrog-10 | well yes :) | 11:09 |
| bluefrog-10 | it's just after | 11:09 |
| ogra | afterwards you should see the real nfs mount going on | 11:09 |
| ogra | showing the ip of the rootserver etc | 11:09 |
| ogra | do you see these lines ? | 11:10 |
| bluefrog-10 | nope hanging at acpi pci interrupt -> gsi 16 level,low irq 16 (16? by the way?) | 11:10 |
| ogra | hmm | 11:10 |
| bluefrog-10 | and have tried with ltsp on top of ubnutu does the same | 11:10 |
| bluefrog-10 | right now am with edubuntu | 11:11 |
| ogra | you can edit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/pxelinux.cfg/default and try playing with noacpi or acpi=off | 11:11 |
| bluefrog-10 | k | 11:11 |
| ogra | or nolapic | 11:11 |
| bluefrog-10 | have to restart tfttp? | 11:12 |
| ogra | nope | 11:12 |
| bluefrog-10 | k | 11:12 |
| ogra | only the client | 11:12 |
| bluefrog-10 | hum how do u insert it in the file? | 11:15 |
| ogra | edit ? | 11:16 |
| ogra | sudo gedit for example | 11:16 |
| bluefrog-10 | same line than default hangs me at boot | 11:16 |
| bluefrog-10 | line underneath? | 11:16 |
| ogra | you just append it to the end of the line | 11:16 |
| ogra | spearated with a space | 11:16 |
| bluefrog-10 | acpi=off at end of line stuck at boot: blinking cursor, trying noacpi... | 11:17 |
| ogra | DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img pci=noacpi | 11:17 |
| bluefrog-10 | k | 11:17 |
| bluefrog-10 | after nfs-top waiting at ipconfig, going to wit a while to see it goes farther.. | 11:19 |
| bluefrog-10 | hum what puzzles me is that i have a dhcpack on server log on a mac address and another mac address on the client at the line where it waiting | 11:23 |
| ogra | did you try the other options ? | 11:24 |
| ogra | nolapic | 11:25 |
| ogra | acpi=off | 11:25 |
| bluefrog-10 | going to.. acpi=off stucks me at boot: on client | 11:25 |
| bluefrog-10 | nolapic gets stuck at a scsi bus reset (i have a surestore hp that seems to be the pb in that case. will disc the tape tomorrow to see if there's a change) otherwise nevermind i'll try to stay away from amd as long until i have more time to deep myself into that problem | 11:30 |
| ogra | it simply shouldnt be a problem... thats a bit weird... | 11:32 |
| bluefrog-10 | giving acpi=off another try | 11:32 |
| ogra | did you run a 686 kernel inbetween ? | 11:32 |
| ogra | probabaly you got a wron initramfs | 11:32 |
| bluefrog-10 | no | 11:32 |
| ogra | hmm | 11:32 |
| ogra | then it should work | 11:32 |
| bluefrog-10 | ah this time acpi=off goes farther than boot: | 11:33 |
| ogra | the 386 kernel is the one that is even installed on k7 systems by default | 11:33 |
| ogra | it also works on amd64 systems | 11:33 |
| bluefrog-10 | still stuck at this strange IP CONFIG eth0 which has a different macaddress than the one listed on the server log at DHCPACK time | 11:34 |
| bluefrog-10 | will try to use another network card | 11:34 |
| bluefrog-10 | this one is integrated to cardboard | 11:34 |
| bluefrog-10 | have a FC4 setup somewhere, will check if I have same problem tomorrow, ty for your answers. | 11:36 |
| ogra | i have a k7 system for testing, but its not around currently | 11:36 |
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| bluefrog-10 | well am startting FC4 now to have a look, but i may be screwed as I think i ahve a poopoo with my vmware network card for K12, edubuntu is not on vmware btw.. | 11:38 |
| bluefrog-10 | well enough for tonight, with K12 it's even worse, get a kernel panic while waiting for a dhcpd running on port 67... will find a 3com card to try with... | 11:51 |
| bluefrog-10 | and i will stick with edubuntu as my laptop as well is making a kernel panic with K12 while it's working with edu :) | 11:55 |
| bluefrog-10 | ah was wrong on that... kernel panic with edu as well for laptop, forgot about that.. well time to hit the sac ty bye | 11:57 |
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