=== \sh is now known as \sh_away === mhz [n=mhz@pc-71-102-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.227.146] has joined #edubuntu [12:27] hi there [12:27] I may need some assistance [12:28] mhz, hi [12:28] holas [12:28] man~ana vas al cdsl ? [12:28] sipo [12:29] rlz [12:29] I have 2 issues [12:30] when booting, the pc gets stuck at: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts does not exist. PDF support disabled [12:30] it stays there for about 1 minute [12:31] then it continues but gets stuck again at: checking battery state .... ok [12:31] obviously, by pressing Alt+F1 I get to a login prompt === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #edubuntu [12:32] Alt+F8 still shows the attery checking'stuff [12:32] Alt+F8 still shows the battery checking'stuff [12:32] highvoltage, any ideas_ [12:32] highvoltage, any ideas? [12:33] ogra, any? [12:35] oh, it seems i installed a pre-release candidate [12:35] duh! [12:35] maybe all stuff has been worked on [12:36] arkan0x, a que hora necesitas que vaya? ira JCI ? [12:37] sabes si hay forma de revisar el cable de 15 mts que tengo? (cupongo que tiene pifia en algun segmento) [12:37] debo deslogearm un rato [12:37] vuelvo mas tarde === mhz BBL === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #edubuntu === dabaR [n=dabaR@wnpgmb02dc1-148-148.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-126-38-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:07] hi === dnB [i=dnB@24-205-181-251.dhcp.wsco.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu [01:09] Quiet place. [01:09] HiveDrone, can someone tell me the command to upgrade ubuntu 5.10 to edubuntu 5.10? [01:09] dnB: sudo aptitude install edubuntu-desktop [01:10] hey [01:10] can I install edubuntu 5.10 with hoary? [01:11] Lord_Athur: Something specific you like about hoary over breezy? Or is dist-upgrade not a good idea? [01:12] Lord_Athur: you'll have to dist-upgrade to Breezy first [01:12] I did this crimsun but my sistem could not load the graphic envioment [01:13] couldnt find any packages whose name or description matched "edubuntu-desktop" [01:13] dnB: are you running 5.10 with the main repository enabled? [01:13] i have no idea to be honest, just finished a netboot install and im at a command line [01:14] :P [01:14] i also tried sudo apt-get update and it failed [01:14] know how i can manually add correct repositories? [01:14] is networking correctly configured? [01:14] :S [01:14] it should be, i dont know how to check from command line [01:14] no one+ [01:14] :P [01:14] and apparently no gui was installed [01:14] dnB: ifconfig [01:15] thanks brb [01:15] how can I upgrade my repositories? [01:15] exist a command for this? [01:15] looks fine kjcole [01:15] crimsun, yeah network is correct, i was having problems with apt during the install though [01:16] Lord_Athur: sudo sed -i s/hoary/breezy/ /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade && sudo aptitude install edubuntu-desktop [01:16] dnB: ping somewhere to see if you're reaching out to the world. [01:16] lol nope [01:16] im not [01:16] what do i need to edit to get network setup correctly? [01:17] dnB: Soooo... your system knows it's IP address (so sayeth ifconfig) but it doesn't see the world. Static IP or DHCP? [01:17] dhcp [01:17] and gedit isnt here either ;( [01:17] i wish the cdrom was working so i could use a disc [01:18] do you know how i can edit so that i can fix and get packages? [01:18] hrm, my router returns a ping [01:19] indefinitely apparently :D [01:19] dnB: Yeah, a lot of stuff used to respond to ping forever. [01:19] do you happen to know which file i should edit to get this working correctly? [01:19] dnB: During bootup, do you know if it sees the CD drive? [01:20] it does, the cdrom just doesnt read right [01:21] dnB: What's the symptom? [01:21] cant read files [01:21] trying to make do without it for the moment though [01:21] apparently it installed vim as the only text editor [01:21] dnB: but it mounts okay? [01:22] yeah, it finds it [01:22] just has errors when reading files [01:22] dnB: possibly a burn-speed issue with the CD itself. Any other CD's handy that you can try reading? [01:23] newp :) [01:23] dnB: You're no fun. ;-) [01:23] lol i know [01:24] ok i Vim'ed /etc/network/interfaces, dont really know what im looking at [01:24] dnB: So, clearly, you're on the net somewhere at the moment. Does the machine you're on read the CD okay? [01:24] the machine im on also has a busted cdrom lol [01:24] however this one is under warranty and will be replaced soon [01:24] so cdrom isnt an option :( [01:25] the last line in /interfaces is "iface eth0 inet dhcp" [01:25] sounds right, ya? [01:26] also, when i try to ping outside the lan, it doesnt time out, just says unknown host [01:26] dnB: It does... (I wish I could double-check, but I'm sitting at work in front of a Fedora box at the moment. My Edubuntu machine is sitting at home.) [01:26] :) ah [01:27] well i have no idea what to do from this point on [01:27] i think ill reboot [01:27] and hope something goes differently [01:27] dont understand why im missing so many packages either [01:27] :/ [01:28] dnB: Good luck. I think I'm going to split, and try to get back on when I get home, so that I know what I'm talking about. ;-)) [01:28] thanks kjcole :) === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.213.222.65] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:19] hi === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:12] arkan0x: ping [05:12] arkan0x: ira reinaldo? [05:13] mmm se supone que si , pero como alas 2 [05:13] shhhaaa [05:13] pq a ese hora sale de clase [05:13] quien pondra el desayuno? [05:13] :) [05:13] emmm , beto [05:13] estara abierto el sindicato? [05:14] se supone que si , pero llega como alas 1130 mejol [05:14] AFAIK, tienen fama de ser tardios [05:14] y tu? [05:14] yo llego cmo alas 1130 [05:16] ah, ok. [05:16] te puedo pedir un gran GRAN favor? [05:17] podrias imprimir al menos 1 adhesivo de edubuntu (te mando el logo en el formato que me indiques) [05:18] arkan0x: ping [05:18] ya [05:18] pero ojo , es blanco y negro nu ma [05:21] si claro [05:21] te mando el logo de fondo blanco y figura en negro [05:21] ya [05:22] lo necesito en pequeno, no mas ancho que el hackaday [05:22] bkn === mhz usando inkscape [05:22] en que formato te sirve/prefieres? [05:24] png [05:26] ok... estoy en eso [05:28] arkan0x: imprime escala de grises? [05:28] mmm nu sabo [05:28] ok [05:28] probemos igual [05:28] negro entonces sera [05:28] te mandare 1 y 1 [05:40] ya [05:40] donde te los mando, arkan0x [05:40] ? [05:42] mail [05:43] okidoki [05:46] arkan0x: ping en query [05:50] mhz, [05:51] enviados [05:51] okis === mhz se va pal sobre, arkan0x [06:17] nos vemos, Mr. Rlz [06:17] gracias por la impresion === juliux [n=juliux@141.30.211.85] has joined #edubuntu === bluefrog-10 [n=James@81.56.254.229] has joined #edubuntu === \sh_away is now known as \sh === bluefrog-10 [n=James@81.56.254.229] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.227.146] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089F776.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-79-237-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@185-176-222-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:30] hi [02:30] G'day mhz [02:30] gday [02:31] managed to hurt myself the other day [02:32] getting pains all up and down my right arm === mhz about to leave for CDSL (Center to Promote Free Software) [02:32] Yagisan: why? how? [02:32] Doctor said it is "Repetitive Strain Injury", and I should take a rest from using the computer [02:32] wow [02:32] that is SERIOUS [02:33] so, I nodded and said yes, and have been trying to do it left handed [02:33] as I can't eat, if I don't use the pc [02:33] so it has slowed me down [02:34] doctor said I use the pc/mouse too much, and pick my girl up too much with just my right arm [02:34] oh, how about 'voice commands'? [02:35] It has made me look into a better voice command system [02:35] but that doesn't seem very functional [02:35] at the moment :( [02:37] I can find things that eg open www browsers [02:37] but no open source things that also do dictation style input === stef_ [n=stef@a82-93-84-128.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #edubuntu [02:39] mhz, good luck at CDSL [02:40] Hi [02:41] G'day stef_ [02:41] I've got a question [02:41] Can U help ? [02:42] stef_: maybe - what's wrong ? [02:42] depends what your question is :) [02:42] just ask ;) [02:42] I'm new to this Edubuntu, I've workt with Ubuntu for a few months now. [02:43] I've got Edubuntu installed, and it looks verry nice. Thanks for the great job. [02:43] but.... [02:44] When I startup a client to log on to the edubuntu server it hangs at the login prompt. [02:44] define "hangs" [02:44] you got a graphical login ? [02:44] I see the graphical login, but after the login it trows me back to the login again. [02:45] ok === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has left #edubuntu ["Client] [02:45] check the file /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts [02:45] that sounds like the ssh keys issue [02:45] it should contain a key (long line with letters and numbers) [02:45] During startup I see a few 'fails'. I'm not sure what they are. It flashes tru the screen. [02:46] thats normal, ignore them [02:46] startup fails are harmless [02:46] Ok, so thats normal. I thought that would be the problem. [02:46] the startscripts are not adjusted for readonly filesystems yet... [02:46] its cosmetic [02:46] So I have to concentrate on SSH ? [02:46] yup [02:47] OK. I'll take a look at that. [02:47] check this file, if its empty or nonexistesnt, run_ [02:47] on the server run ltsp-update-sshkeys and reboot the client [02:47] ha - beat you then ogra [02:47] OK. [02:47] sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server [02:47] Yagisan, missed sudo ;p [02:47] my arm is now killing me [02:47] i know that feeling, have rsi too... [02:47] take some days off === Yagisan is going to find a pain killer, be back in a sec [02:48] Working on this now, also be back in a few sec. [02:49] re [02:49] ogra, I wish I could take some time off [02:50] but I can't [02:50] try to find another position for working.... moveyour body every half hour .... [02:50] (get a dog and go walking frequently ;) ) [02:51] well, I get a new baby in a few days [02:51] that means I will cook, and clean, and make house [02:52] fine :) [02:52] so I won't get to touch the pc as much [02:52] that will help a bit [02:55] I hope so. ogra, your rsi - also your arm ? [02:56] yup, right elbow [02:57] and sometimes the sholder [02:57] that sounds just like mine [02:57] it comes and goes [02:57] my wrist is ok [02:58] it is the inside (folded) part of the elbow that hurts most [02:58] for me its the ankle [02:58] and rather the outside part [02:58] i used to have that in my lower arm [02:59] esp. after a bike stupid accident [02:59] on which i landed with my elbow [03:00] Guys, do I need to reboot for the changes ? [03:00] nope [03:00] mhz, I have stories to tell about bike accidents [03:00] DHCPD won't start. [03:00] stef_: just the client [03:00] stef_, you need to reboot the client [03:00] another problem ? [03:00] yup [03:00] is the interface up ? [03:01] ogra: I have successfully login after updating ssh. no need to reboot client [03:01] (the one that serves the clients) [03:01] Yes, I dit, but the client can't get a IP. It worked fine before. [03:01] stef_: did you change anything with the dhcp configuration ? [03:01] Not since the last reboot. [03:01] interface, taht a good one ;-) I'll check. [03:01] and you only edited /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, not /etc/dhcpd.conf, right ? [03:02] (like the docs say) [03:03] mhz - there was one accident where I crashed and had the handle bar punch a hole through my abdomen [03:03] Yep. [03:04] ogra: so, is it logical i never rebooted non_logedin_clients after running key updates? [03:04] Interface is up (2'nd network card) [03:04] Yagisan: you were nuts then [03:04] xtreme Yagi [03:05] mhz: nope, someone "helped" by shoving a metal bar into the front wheel [03:05] Is'nt there a nice webinterface to check these items ? [03:05] Yagisan: any way I can get to know why a RJ45 cable works once in a while? Any way I can get to determine which segment may be broken? [03:06] mhz: you need a cable tester [03:06] duh! [03:06] lol [03:06] Yagisan: nice friends you ha [03:06] mhz: it sends signals down the cable and measures the time it takes to reflect [03:06] Yagisan: nice friends you had [03:06] mhz: Oh, I didn't call them friends [03:07] mhz: some new asus m/b have built in cable tester [03:07] stef_: no, no web interface [03:07] oh, you recited names of their mothers and family? [03:07] :D [03:08] asus rocks! [03:08] mhz: No, I just made them feel "inadequate" in many sensitive respects [03:08] hmm, pitty. But there is a kind of webinterface to the teacherstool/pet ? [03:08] stef_, and the ip matches the range you gave in dhcpd.conf ? [03:08] stef_, nope, no webinterface... the target is to make it just work, so you wont need to look at these files in the naext release anymore [03:08] something like http://localhost:7xx [03:09] stef_: as edubuntu is mostly plug in and turn on [03:09] stef_: probably WebMin [03:09] you don't need to change much (if anything) [03:09] stef_, there is no teachertool yet... only a spec [03:09] I could install WebMin. [03:09] mhz: I object to webmin on security grounds [03:09] stef_: "probably" WebMin :D [03:10] stef_: you would need to reconfigure webmin extensively [03:10] I played with it a few time, maybe I screwed up something. I'll try a fresh install. [03:10] Yagisan: I agree, however, he asks [03:10] Thanks for the help. [03:10] stef_, if its only the dhcp, thats faster to fix than doing a reinstall [03:10] yes, but I'm sure we can find a better tool for him [03:11] stef_: could you paste somewhere [03:11] ? [03:11] It should work right 'out of the box' === ikks [n=igor@201.245.14.218] has joined #edubuntu [03:11] post your ifconfi output and the content of /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to a pastebin [03:11] maybe this way we can all see potential errors [03:11] *ifconfig [03:11] and fix them === Belutz [n=Belutz@ubuntu/member/belutz] has joined #edubuntu === mhz loves wikis for pasting [03:12] ogra, ping! [03:12] Belutz, pong === ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra] : The discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | NEXT MEETING: Nov 16 12:00 UTC on #ubuntu-meeting. | Edubuntu 5.10 is out, grab it while its hot ! http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ | Installation help http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes | edubuntu on position 46 in last months distrowatch stats [03:13] ogra, are there any edubuntu evangelist near Indonesia? [03:13] Belutz, jsgotango [03:13] ah i see [03:13] stef_: there is a pastebin here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ [03:13] do you think he is free on december 3rd? [03:14] i think he said something about korea in december [03:14] no idea, you need to catch and ask him [03:14] he has a new job afaik [03:14] Ahh, the pastbin. Hold on. [03:14] yes, i read that on p.u.c [03:14] ogra: any news on ML? I had wikied a ChileanLoCo team on the council page and Rolando Blanco deleted it and kept the LatinAmerican LoCo :( [03:15] put it up again for discussion, make a note aside it that you will re add it to get it discussed ;) [03:15] hehehehehehe [03:16] hmm there going to be a debian conference in indonesia, and i'm thinking if there could be someone from ubuntu that could come, if there is, i will ask the event commitee to make the slot available for edubuntu/ubuntu presentation [03:16] ogra: very polite solution [03:16] :) [03:16] Belutz, cool :) [03:16] Belutz: and if there isn't, you can become one [03:16] i hope jsgotango finds time for it... i'm not aware of anyone else who could fill the gap :) [03:16] mhz, yes, although i'm now a member, but i don't think i'm ready to do a presentation [03:17] too far for me atm [03:17] oh [03:17] the guest speaker will be Richard M. Stallman [03:17] Yagisan: I'm new to this pastbin, but i put the output of ifconfig and dhcpd.conf in the pastbin. [03:17] i hope he changes his talk this time :) [03:17] stef_, it should have given you a url, post this here [03:18] i'm thinking that if someone from edubuntu could come, then we could distribute edubuntu to elementary school for the whole country [03:18] but of course, i have to do a lot translation before it could be done [03:18] I've posted it. [03:18] stef_] s url http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4408 [03:19] http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4408 [03:19] too late '-) [03:19] Belutz, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/ there is my (not very good) talk from ubuntu love day... but you could use it as a base [03:19] stef_ you subnet is for an interface you are not connected to [03:20] subnet192.168.100.0netmask255.255.255.0{ [03:20] ogra, ok, i'll take a look at it :-) [03:20] change 100 to 0 [03:20] eth 1 ? [03:20] stef_, thats 192.168.0.10 [03:20] stef_, make that 192.168.100.10 [03:20] and it will work [03:21] the dhcp server can only work if the ip of the interface matches the range in dhcpd.conf [03:21] so either change the file or the ip of the interfac [03:22] e [03:22] Yep, it works. But...... [03:23] ? [03:23] What about this http://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPServerSetup [03:23] I changed all the 0 to 100 [03:23] Follow these steps after the install (you need to know the IP address you used on install; in the following example we'll assume the IP 192.168.100.2 was chosen as the IP address during install): [03:24] ;) [03:24] and.... [03:24] If you selected an IP similar to 192.168.0.XXX (where XXX is a number between 1 and 254) during install, there is no need to read on, as your server will already be configured. [03:24] Ok, but the client starts up now . [03:24] its in the top section ;) [03:24] So i'm happy. [03:24] great [03:26] Guys/girls IT WORKS !! Thanks for your help. [03:26] :) [03:26] great ... [03:27] learned again. Even NAT works. I'll go futher from here. [03:27] Thanks again. And see you later. [03:27] Bye [03:28] execellent - donations to #edubunu users with rsi, c/o you capital city :) [03:28] LOL!!! [03:28] ;-) [03:28] *grin* [03:28] ikks: ping [03:29] pong pm === \sh is now known as \sh_away [03:33] ogra: so ML will depend on Councils decission to accept me as 'member'? [03:33] mhz, yup [03:33] ok [03:34] mhz sincronizando SystemPagesInSpanishGroup y SystemPagesInEnglishGroup === \sh_away is now known as \sh [03:34] and do most of them also notice that edubuntu is much more education/social stuff than linux? [03:34] ikks: ohhh, por eso la demora :D === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:35] arkan0x: te pille!!!! [03:35] aun no vas al CDSL!!! === Yagisan sighs - fine then [03:35] Yagisan: you must not write [03:35] :) [03:35] nor complain [03:36] mhz I'm sending you private messages :) [03:36] mhz: I'm not complaining - I just can't contribute in spanish [03:36] arkan0x: edubuntu adhesives ready? [03:37] Yagisan: your japaneese is imporoving. I hope you realize you could write from right to left :) [03:37] mhz, ! yea [03:37] mhz, eske ayer te imprimi algunos , pero no salelieron bien [03:37] ohhhh, thanz [03:38] eran de 4x5 cm [03:38] rlz [03:38] y no se v ein bien? [03:38] ahora toy probando de 3x3 cm [03:38] aahh [03:38] ok [03:38] mhz: yeah, but right to left is for vertical text, otherwise it is left to right :) [03:38] podrias mandarme algunos con mas resolucion [03:38] arkan0x: sip [03:38] onda mas grandes para que se impriman de 4x5 cm salgan mas rlz [03:39] arkan0x: cuan grande era el mas grande? [03:39] onda yo imprimi unos debian y kedaron bakan chikos [03:39] (how big was the bigger) [03:39] brb - need to test bug report on deng [03:39] haber [03:39] Yagisan: have nice evening [03:40] era de 214x268 [03:40] se ve bien? [03:40] nu tanto [03:40] does that look good? [03:40] en 4x5 [03:40] entronces necesitas mayor resolucion solamente? [03:40] yep [03:41] then you need more resolution only? [03:41] ok [03:41] tienes tiempo ahora? seguro? [03:41] have time now? sure? [03:42] eeee , mandamelos dp , igual te voy a imprimir de 3x3 y te llevo una hoja pa ke imprimai tu [03:42] ogra: arkan0x is printing me a couple of stickers to test [03:42] tengo ke irme pal cdsl [03:42]