[12:00] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, use nautilus or ls /mnt/ to see them
[12:00] <dreumah> does anyone know how to intall x link kai on breazy?
[12:00] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: it says "You do not have the permissions necessary"...
[12:00] <fletch33> hey hu did u look at that
[12:01] <ethan-allison> is there a way to do the new login thing in a window on your desktop
[12:01] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, you have tu use sudo all the way do 'sudo -s'
[12:01] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, and you will get a root shell
[12:01] <ethan-allison> like, i run as root and i need to run things as a lower-level user
[12:01] <chcken> does anyone know why newegg wont load in firefox
[12:02] <ethan-allison> um, it should.
[12:02] <Siph0n> does for me chken
[12:02] <kdude> hello.. can somebody help me with samba PDC configuration?
[12:02] <chcken> do i need java or sumtin
[12:02] <erUSUL> ethan-allison, su <user>
[12:02] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: ok, I did "sode -s"
[12:02] <ethan-allison> erUSUL: doesn't work
[12:02] <dreumah> does anyone know how to intall x link kai on breazy?
[12:02] <ethan-allison> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[12:02] <ethan-allison> root made the conn so yeah
[12:03] <ethan-allison> oh , wow i feel stupid
[12:03] <ethan-allison> just sudo -u user startx der
[12:03] <kdude> anybody?
[12:03] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: Is nautilus a part of ubuntu?
[12:03] <Siph0n> neone here ever hear of gumstix?
[12:04] <dreumah> does anyone know how to intall x link kai on breazy?
[12:04] <chcken> ok now i tried loadin newegg on knoquerer and it loaded but there were no pictures or links to click why is that do i need java
[12:04] <chcken> what is automatix?
[12:04] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, is sudo -s
[12:05] <Spurty> lol
[12:05] <chcken> seveas: u ther
[12:05] <RustyJuggler> When I boot Ubuntu I see that HP printer driver and bluetooth devices start, is this something I can turn off, I don't use either
[12:05] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, nautilus is the "explorer" of ubuntu the file manager
[12:06] <chcken> can sum1 tell me what automatix does???
[12:06] <fbafelipe> I have two devices conected on sound (any one conected directly with the computer), and the sound goes only to the first. How do I configure to the sound output go to both devices?
[12:06] <Spurty> does ubuntu enable PCMCIA by default (on clean install)
[12:07] <chcken> can sum1 tell me what automatix does???
[12:07] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: sudo - with the rest of the mount command or just sudo -s? I did both
[12:07] <hubuntu> fletch i got it
[12:07] <Spurty> chcken, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563 heko ?
[12:07] <fletch33> k
[12:07] <fletch33> im ready
[12:07] <ColD_7> anyone experience the cursor going crazy in ubuntu before?
[12:07] <chcken> spurty:ty ill try it
[12:07] <hubuntu> when you got to evo->file->import
[12:07] <fletch33> k
[12:07] <hubuntu> set the file type as Mbox (or mbox)
[12:08] <fletch33> it wont let me
[12:08] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, i thought that the maount comand have already suceeded, hadn't it?
[12:08] <eXistenZ> is there a minimal CD for ubuntu for installing it through the net?
[12:08] <marlun> Is there a calculator that you can use from the terminal?
[12:08] <hubuntu> go to the directory where you have your files from mozilla thunderbird and then voila!
[12:08] <ethan-allison> marlun: bc
[12:08] <ethan-allison> marlun: dc
[12:08] <hubuntu> let it do the rest
[12:08] <dreumah> does anyone know how to intall x link kai on breazy?
[12:08] <fletch33> it wont let me choose file type
[12:08] <hubuntu> it won't let you even if you are in the right directory?
[12:09] <Spurty> marlun, read the man pages for bc (it doesn't accept stdin)
[12:09] <fletch33> yep
[12:09] <hubuntu> you have to be in the directory where tyour file is first in order to choos file type
[12:09] <dreumah> does anyone know how to intall x link kai on breazy?
[12:09] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: yes it had, I just don't know what the sudo -s should do, cos it gives me the same result
[12:09] <fletch33> it is in my external is that the problem
[12:09] <opnsrc> Is there a way I can increase the font size for Xchat
[12:10] <marlun> ethan-allison, Spurty, thanks! I'll check it out.
[12:10] <bob832> is it possible to add my wireless card to the networking tool in system/administration menu?
[12:10] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: I think I'm on the right track, cos the mnt folder has 10 gb free, and that's approx, what I have
[12:10] <Dreamfluid> I just can't access it
[12:10] <hubuntu> and you sure that you have a mbox file there?  I mean.. you mounted the windows hard disk and went into the directory (something like  /mnt/windows/c/Windows/Application Data/Mozilla/Profiles/default/XXXX/Mail/imported.mail/ ) ?
[12:10] <dreumah> does anyone know how to intall x link kai on breazy?
[12:10] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, sudo -s will give you root privileges so you can access the files you mounted under /mnt/
[12:11] <hubuntu> it might be the problem...
[12:11] <sklav> Hey guy quick question
[12:11] <fletch33> no i copied that file onto my external hard rive and then used it on ubu
[12:11] <hubuntu> copy the file to your home directry ( the mbox file or files if there are several accounts) and try again
[12:11] <Dreamfluid> erSUL: so the the only thing that should be needed is "sudo -s" or do I have to add something to that command line?
[12:11] <sklav> is there mp3 support in amarok?
[12:11] <fletch33> k brb
[12:11] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: Because I still haven't got any access
[12:12] <dnB> eek! can anyone tell me what to do at this point? im using netboot to install 5.10.. however it says that it cant resolve mirror us.archive.ubuntu.. i went to the option to enter the mirror manually, and im not familar with whatever text editor this is
[12:12] <hubuntu> sldav fi you get it.. it is... but no hassle.... do this: sudo apt-get install  xmms
[12:12] <dnB> it a white background with a bunch of "~"'s on the left
[12:12] <hubuntu> xmms is more winamp like and gives you mp3 support ;)
[12:12] <Spurty> dnb, is it vi  ? Try <ESC> :
[12:12] <sklav> i know of xmms
[12:12] <Spurty> dnB, then 'i' for insert mode
[12:13] <sklav> i was hoping for this itunes look alike to work :)
[12:13] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: it says when I try "sudo -s /mnt/" that mnt is a directory
[12:13] <dnB> it says it is in Ex mode, and to type visual for normal mode
[12:13] <dnB> ?
[12:13] <dnB> Spurty, id like to exit without saving changes i think lol
[12:13] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: and if I do only "sudo -s" it says nothing
[12:13] <hubuntu> damn im becoming old... i have bnever used itunes... :(
[12:13] <Spurty> Well if it was vi, do <ESC> q!
[12:13] <Blissex> dnB: so type "visual" :-)
[12:13] <sklav> its awesome itunes
[12:13] <hubuntu> is amaroK KDA based?
[12:13] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, now you have '$' promt after the sudo -s you should have a '#' promt of root and doing ls /mnt/ should succeed
[12:13] <sklav> yes
[12:13] <fletch33> i copied it to my desktop and i still get no options on file type
[12:13] <hubuntu> KDE..
[12:14] <dnB> Blissex, i have, did nothing, and esc+q+! does nothing either
[12:14] <sklav> but i dont see a mp3 plugin and 2 be honest i didnt think it required 1
[12:14] <Spurty> Well if it was vi, do <ESC> :q!
[12:14] <Spurty> I missed the colon, sorry
[12:14] <Blissex> dnB: literally nothing
[12:14] <hubuntu> fletch you have to click the mouse on the fle type grid
[12:14] <Blissex> dnB: literally nothing???
[12:14] <hubuntu> and then it wll show you options
[12:14] <dnB> Blissex, screen doesnt change
[12:14] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: ah, you're right
[12:14] <marlun> Spurty, bc seems very advanced, I just want to be able to do like "45*34/5" or something like that =)
[12:14] <fletch33> it is not lit up and doesnt let me choose anything
[12:14] <fletch33> it is dull in color
[12:14] <Spurty> marlun, do you know perl ?
[12:15] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: but I still haven't got acces
[12:15] <Dreamfluid> s
[12:15] <Blissex> dnB: then you got more than one problem... Tyep CTRL-C and then ":visual"
[12:15] <fletch33> does that make sense
[12:15] <dnB> Blissex, ok one sec
[12:15] <dylan_> DapperDrake, is the GNOME team working to reduce processor and RAM memory requirements?
[12:15] <hubuntu> fletch try: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&postid=1848761#post1848761
[12:15] <Blissex> dnB: that should put you back in VI, not Ex, mode
[12:15] <Blissex> dylan_: yes, but dream on
[12:15] <dnB> ctrl+c gave me a colon, nothing after that
[12:15] <dylan_> Blissex, is KDE better?  Ive never used it
[12:15] <Blissex> dnB: perfect, now type "visual" and return.
[12:15] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, it shoudn't said anything it should change your promt. do "whoami" it should respond "root"
[12:15] <hubuntu> tehre are several approaches on how to solve the problem
[12:15] <fletch33> k i am goign to get some dinner thanks be back in a few
[12:15] <fletch33> k
[12:15] <Blissex> dylan_: it is slightly less memory hungry...
[12:15] <fletch33> thanks
[12:15] <hubuntu> non all are ubuntu specific but they ight work...
[12:16] <fletch33> k'
[12:16] <dnB> Blissex, typing visual doesnt display anything on screen, after return no changes still
[12:16] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: it did.. "root"
[12:16] <dylan_> Blissex, why did you tell me to 'dream on' ?
[12:16] <benplaut> what is xdmcp?
[12:16] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: ah, I've got access through the terminal.. but not through the US
[12:16] <Dreamfluid> UI
[12:17] <dnB> ive tried several times, i now have a line that looks like "::::::::::::"
[12:17] <Spurty> xdm is an x manager. The dc part means Control Protocol
[12:17] <marlun> Spurty, nope =/ a little php though
[12:17] <Blissex> dylan_: as to dreaming, link to follow...
[12:17] <Spurty> php, ok thats simple enough
[12:17] <ken> i see no anwser guess evryone is newbies here moving on
[12:17] <Spurty> marlun, gimme a second (fun little project)
[12:17] <dnB> heh, alright i punched a random amount of keys, and now i have "recording1,1all"
[12:18] <dnB> how do i close this?
[12:18] <marlun> Spurty, ok, what are you doing? =)
[12:18] <dylan_> Blissex, i dont understand
[12:18] <Spurty> um,  hmm this wont help you via the console actually so nevermind ;-)
[12:18] <Blissex> dylan_: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-2nd.html#050512
[12:18] <marlun> hehe
[12:18] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, it is normal you can run nautilus from the root promt to acces it through gui. type "nautilus &"
[12:18] <dnB> now im in insert mode, still cant seem to get esc+:+q+! to do anything
[12:18] <Blissex> dnB: well, if you got a ":" as a prompt, type "quit!"
[12:19] <dnB> ill keep trying for a prompt, im back in recording mode now lol :) thanks
[12:19] <marlun> weird theres no simple way of making simple calculations? =)
[12:19] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: WEEEEEE!!!
[12:19] <hubuntu> fletch are you there?
[12:20] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: Thanks alot!
[12:20] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: now I just have to copy the files somehow, or eraze the windows folder
[12:20] <dylan_> Blissex, so what window manager is both highly usable like gnome or kde and not memory hungry
[12:20] <dnB> erUSUL, lol it wasnt an option
[12:20] <dnB> ok, im back to the apt configuration screen, the http mirrors are apparently outdated? anyone know how i can update them? (doing a netboot install)
[12:20] <Blissex> dylan_: XFCE4 for example, and there is now Xubuntu, a project to use it. Also, it is possible to configure KDE to be a lot less memory hungry.
[12:21] <dylan_> Blissex, but you cannot configure gnome to be less memory hungry?
[12:21] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, you can try to burn the files into a cd in nautilus Places-->cd burner
[12:21] <cafuego_> dnB: Re your edubuntu question; it comes as a full working setup; all you need to do is check the dhcp server config.
[12:21] <hubuntu> anyone here knows of a project on using a GNUStep based window manager as the desktop manager? like WMubuntu ?
[12:22] <Blissex> dylan_: a bit less, but not quite as much as KDE. GNOME developers are usually wealthy people with large amounts of RAM.
[12:22] <sklav> xmms as always works ;)
[12:22] <hubuntu> I just happen to love window maker... :)
[12:22] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, i mean in a nautilus window
[12:22] <dnB> cafuego_, thanks buddy :)
[12:22] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: should the nautilus look the same as the browser window?
[12:22] <Blissex> dylan_: for KDE, have a look here: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxKDE.html#performance for memory reduction options.
[12:22] <iceman> Anyone able to guide me into turning a Linux system into a Internet gatway for a network
[12:22] <dylan_> Blissex, kde is quite flashy....why such?
[12:22] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: because thats what I've got not
[12:22] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: -not + now
[12:22] <opnsrc> Anyone know if it's possible to increase font size on Xchat
[12:22] <dnB> anyone know how i can change the configuration for apt doing a netboot install? it is attempting to source packages from 'us.archive.ubuntu.com/dists/breezy/" which apparently doesnt exist?
[12:23] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, yes
[12:23] <Blissex> dylan_: also read this for minimizing memory usage at the kernel level: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-4th.html#051008
[12:23] <jtklaw> how do you reload the /etc/groups file after you edit it?
[12:23] <Blissex> dylan_: KDE is quite flashy by default, to impress people, just like GNOME. The ''demo effect''.
[12:23] <iceman> I want to server my iternet through my linux box to a network of windows systems, anyone able to help
[12:23] <erUSUL> opnsrc, Configuration preferences does not work?
[12:23] <Sanne> dnB: it's in the preferences
[12:23] <opnsrc> I can't find an option for it
[12:23] <opnsrc> On Xchat
[12:23] <dylan_> Blissex, i thought flashy and high-graphics UIs were memory hungry
[12:23] <erUSUL> jtklaw, you do not need to
[12:23] <opnsrc> There is setting - preferences
[12:23] <opnsrc> but not configuration preferences
[12:24] <dnB> Sanne, what preferences? im in the middle of a netboot install, i dont see it anywhere :/
[12:24] <Blissex> dylan_: yes, thats why one should disable all flashy effects in KDE, as the page I linked to says.
[12:24] <opnsrc> Oh I found it
[12:24] <Sanne> dnB: sorry I meant opnsrc...
[12:24] <opnsrc> You have to change the 9 to a 12
[12:24] <Aven> Hello
[12:24] <opnsrc> Monospace = font type and the 9 = size
[12:24] <opnsrc> Heh, I shoulda figured that out
[12:24] <opnsrc> Much better, thanks
[12:24] <Sanne> opnsrc: cool :)
[12:24] <dnB> Sanne, ah, thanks anyways :)
[12:24] <Aven> everytime I add a user, the password changes itself each time.. what might be causing this?
[12:25] <opnsrc> Ok, now one more thing
[12:25] <jtklaw> erUSUL, I added myself to a group and when I start a new shell I'm not part of that group, do you know what I have to do?
[12:25] <iceman> Anyone set up a Internet server, piping the internet from a Linux System to a network of Windows systems ... i need help
[12:25] <opnsrc> for some strange reason, the only refresh rate I can get is 60
[12:25] <opnsrc> Under Win98Se I can get like 80 or 85
[12:25] <xx94> hey, could some one ftp their /var/apt directory?
[12:25] <Blissex> iceman: there are several internet connection sharing HOWTOs... Just do a web search.
[12:25] <opnsrc> Someone told me about a package to install or something, but I'm not sure how that works
[12:25] <Dreamfluid> erUSUL: anything I should know about how to burn? Can't find the commands/buttons for it
[12:25] <Spurty> marlun, you still here There is an easy way
[12:25] <opnsrc> I tried installing it, then I tried reinstalling ubuntu
[12:25] <Aven> everytime I add a user, the password changes itself each time.. what might be causing this?
[12:25] <dnB> can someone tell me a correct mirror to add? im back in Vim, and i see the line "#deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted"
[12:25] <xx94> its not the sources.list
[12:26] <opnsrc> either way, the option to get a higher refresh rate didn't work, still 60 hz
[12:26] <xx94> please?
[12:26] <cafuego_> Aven: Which password changes itself?
[12:26] <Spurty> marlun, try perl -wlne'print eval'
[12:26] <Spurty> type in your calc
[12:26] <swb> opnsrc, I've had a similar problem
[12:26] <Spurty> hit return and control+c to exit
[12:27] <erUSUL> Dreamfluid, in the menu File--> Burn in disc. iirci
[12:27] <Aven> cafuego_, in System > Administrator > User and groups
[12:27] <Aven> when adding a user, the password changes everytime I make one..
[12:27] <sambagirl> can someone tell me a quakenet server?
[12:27] <xx94> i mean the /etc/apt/ directory
[12:27] <cafuego_> Aven: Do you have 'generate random password' set?
[12:27] <xx94> i think i messed up the whole thing
[12:27] <iceman> Blissex but i want to pipe the internet from the linux box, not through a HUB
[12:28] <swb> opnsrc, firstly make suer you have the correct horizontal refresh and vert sync values for your monitor in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:28] <Aven> cafuego_, nope
[12:28] <opnsrc> uhm....
[12:28] <mustard5> ubotu: tell xx94 about sources
[12:28] <Blissex> iceman: thats what the internet connections sharing HOWTOs explain how to do...
[12:28] <opnsrc> How do I tell if it's correct
[12:28] <swb> then add a line: option "Ignore EDID" "1"
[12:28] <dnB> damn, now both lilo and grub are failing to install
[12:28] <swb> To the Device "Screen" section
[12:29] <dnB> jesu cristo
[12:29] <mustard5> xx94, you say you mucked it all up?
[12:29] <cafuego_> dnB: Yes?
[12:29] <swb> look up on the web or in the manual for horizontal and vertical frequencies
[12:29] <dnB> cafuego_, ha ;)
[12:29] <xx94> *mustard5* yes
[12:29] <mustard5> xx94, maybe you could elaborate on that
[12:29] <iceman> Blissex got a url, im googleing it , but all i see is hub setups
[12:29] <swb> google for your monitor make and model etc..
[12:29] <opnsrc> thanks
[12:30] <cafuego_> swb: Unless $USER messes up by thinking you're smater then X, the detected values normally work fine ;-)
[12:30] <Blissex> iceman: ill find you a suitable document...
[12:30] <xx94> i fixed the sources but i might have some wierd config
[12:30] <swb> cafuego_, aye they were spot on for me
[12:30] <swb> but just in case
[12:30] <swb> it would prevent him from getting the refresh rates
[12:30] <opnsrc> Uhm.....
[12:30] <dnB> anything to do if i cant seem to install grub or lilo?
[12:30] <dnB> :/
[12:30] <folki> Is here anybody who can help me with Ubuntu?
[12:30] <Dreamfluid> argh, I really want to trash that WINDOWS folder
[12:30] <mustard5> xx94, you are still not making much sense .. and asking someone to ftp there /etc/apt is a strange request
[12:30] <hubuntu> folki
[12:30] <hubuntu> what do you need?
[12:31] <sabot4ge> how to use the nvidia-glx package for a kernel k7?
[12:31] <opnsrc> It doesn't have to be in quotes right?
[12:31] <xx94> *mustard5* sry, but ive troubledshooted it many times
[12:31] <erUSUL> folki, ask
[12:31] <swb> option "Ignore EDID" "1"
[12:31] <swb> exactly like that
[12:31] <xx94> *mustard5* it used to work...
[12:31] <swb> quotes and all
[12:31] <folki> I am new user of Ubuntu and I want to know how to install software
[12:31] <mustard5> sabot4ge, get the restricted-module for your kernel type to get nvidia-glx to work
[12:31] <dnB> attempting to install via netboot, i get the error msg "Unable to install GRUB in (hd0) Executing 'grub-install (hd0) '  failed. This is a fatal error." any help? :*(
[12:31] <opnsrc> oh, I have to be root to modify the file huh?
[12:31] <folki> I need to install some codecs video and audio codecs
[12:31] <swb> 'fraid so
[12:31] <robotgeek> !tell folki about w2codecs
[12:31] <opnsrc> ahhh
[12:32] <opnsrc> is there a way I don't have to log out
[12:32] <hubuntu> fthats right
[12:32] <opnsrc> so I don't close this?
[12:32] <swb> what are you using to edit it?
[12:32] <xx94> *mustard5* it has no good explanation
[12:32] <robotgeek> !tell folki about w32codecs
[12:32] <folki> w2codecs?
[12:32] <folki> Is it for mp3, video etc?
[12:32] <smig> hello world
[12:32] <robotgeek> folki: read that link which ubotu pm'ed you.
[12:32] <robotgeek> !tell folki about mp3
[12:33] <seymour> hi guys. anyone compiled tango into ubuntu?
[12:33] <robotgeek> folki: you'll understand everything when you read the second link
[12:34] <dnB> lol, no bootloader, woop de doo
[12:34] <sabot4ge> found it
[12:34] <mustard5> sabot4ge, linux-restricted-modules-k7
[12:34] <Pseudo_Placebo> Hm.
[12:35] <xx94> ummm.... ill give someone a 30gigs invite if they ftp theyr /etc/apt/
[12:35] <Pseudo_Placebo> Could you guys help me out with a problem I'm having installing Ubuntu?
[12:35] <hubuntu> anybody working in Enlig. DR17 for Ubuntu?
[12:35] <sklav> other than xmms is there an mp3 lib out there i can use with amarok?
[12:35] <robotgeek> xx94: what?
[12:35] <trappist> hubuntu: never again
[12:36] <hubuntu> I would love to see that up and runing in my desktop.. time to get rid of wmaker
[12:36] <trappist> !tell sklav about mp3
[12:36] <Blissex> iceman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ShareInternetConnection is a good starting point.
[12:36] <seymour>  can anyone give me a hand with tango icon project in ubuntu ?
[12:36] <robotgeek> sklav: what do you mean? as in the engine? sudo apt-get install amarok-engines
[12:36] <iceman> Blissex thanks, ill start there.
[12:37] <Blissex> iceman: you also use a nice firewall package to achieve the same goal.
[12:37] <Dreamflu> Did anyone answer my question while I was gone? "Wich linux distro is the most windows compatible?" I got disconnected
[12:37] <mustard5> Dreamflu, thats a very subjective question really
[12:37] <hubuntu> trappsit: what do you mean? is it bad? I have heard fgood thing, lovely things and ugly things about enlig... haven't used it since Mandrake 7.2 back in 2001
[12:37] <trappist> Dreamflu: try rephrasing your question.  I'm not sure what windows-compatible is supposed to mean.
[12:37] <Dreamflu> I guess. I feel pretty stupid asking that..
[12:37] <isus> lindows
[12:38] <trappist> hubuntu: it's very pretty and impossible to work with
[12:38] <Spurty> Dreamflu, what kind of Windows compatibility you after? Usually, gamers ask this
[12:38] <Dreamflu> Let's say NTFS compatible
[12:38] <Pseudo_Placebo> Uhm. Anytime I try to install ubuntu it gives me the following error: "Base system installation error. The debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1). Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.og for the details"
[12:38] <mustard5> Dreamflu, everyone would answer differently
[12:38] <iceman> Could not get the Linux box to see the windows boxs ... but in winvnc and wine they see one another .
[12:38] <smig> May I ask a question about a problem on ubuntu 5.10 for amd64?
[12:38] <Dreamflu> well, I guess I'm a gamer, but I'm thinking about the safety
[12:38] <Spurty> iceman, use samba
[12:38] <smig> I'm not sure to be at the right place
[12:38] <Spurty> smig, I hope you are
[12:38] <mustard5> Dreamflu, with a slight bias towards ubuntu I would expect .. being an ubuntu support channel :)
[12:39] <Spurty> my amd64 ubuntu iso is downloading
[12:39] <hubuntu> trappist: because f constant changes in the source base? isn't DR17 supposed to really make a changeover for the whole enlig.?
[12:39] <Dreamfluid> Wich linux distro is the most Windows compatible?
[12:39] <smig> thanks, so ...
[12:39] <trappist> Dreamflu: linux can only write to ntfs partitions with captive: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[12:39] <cafuego_> smig: Ask away
[12:39] <Dreamflu> Wine.. Are you able to use files in ntfs format as easily as in windows=
[12:39] <trappist> hubuntu: because of incompleteness - it's a long way from done
[12:39] <smig> I am unable to launch any application from the "System" menu on the top bar
[12:39] <Spurty> Dreamfluid, Lindows is marketed as a hybrid
[12:39] <iceman> next i need to pull the windows box off line, and install the linux box, then pipe out the internet from the linux system to the hub, and set windows to see it, but how to broadcast to the hub and set windows to see it
[12:39] <hubuntu> i see.. :)
[12:39] <smig> and the $DISPLAY variable disappear from my shells after some time
[12:40] <Dreamflu> I would like to use Ubuntu, but there seem to be things missing in the standard ISO
[12:40] <hubuntu> will have to way till they agree between themselves and come with a finished and polished DR 19 then ...
[12:40] <Dreamflu> trappist: thx, I'll check it out
[12:40] <zack_> hey guys im still having problems trying to find UNRAR
[12:40] <smig> so ... i used to  "su -" to exec apps
[12:40] <zack_> its no where in my list, and i have every repository selected
[12:40] <iceman> Dreamflu apt-get what u need not in the iso ..
[12:41] <hubuntu> go to the unrar website (yes use google) and download the linux version
[12:41] <robotgeek> zack_: did you do a apt-get update?
[12:41] <zack_> yeah
[12:41] <smig> but with the disappearing $DISPLAY, I'm unable to launch any X app
[12:41] <dnB> ive restarted the netboot installation of 5.10, its asking for a mirror of the ubuntu archive.. the default is "us.archive.ubuntu.com" this isn't working, anyone know what i should type in here?
[12:41] <hubuntu> and install it....
[12:41] <Kyral> archive.ubuntu.com
[12:41] <zack_> robotgeek:  now when i try to apt-get anything it says i cant cause its locked
[12:41] <robotgeek> zack_: do u have multiverse enabled?
[12:41] <Pseudo_Placebo> Uhm. Anytime I try to install ubuntu it gives me the following error: "Base system installation error. The debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1). Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.og for the details" Can someone help?
[12:41] <smig> cafuego_, Spurty, I come from a gentoo install
[12:41] <robotgeek> zack_: quit synaptic or other apt processes
[12:41] <dnB> Kyral, no us.?
[12:41] <Knowerrors> Hey all I get this when I plug in my digital camera to USB- FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!Nov 11 15:33:13 scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to dead device
[12:41] <Knowerrors> Any ideas
[12:42] <zack_> robotgeek:oh yeah, nm knew about that
[12:42] <Dreamflu> Iceman: how do I get apt
[12:42] <smig> cafuego_, Spurty, I maybe juste have to know some good practice that's specific to ubuntu
[12:42] <Kyral> dnB, no
[12:42] <agtnz> Dreamflu: apt is already on your machine. What programs do you need?
[12:42] <zack_> robotgeek: multiverse.... is that in Software Preferences?
[12:42] <hubuntu> any canonical guys here who knows how shipit works? I ordered at the beginning of october and haven't got the delivery yet-... Im starting to think taht something went wrong with the mail...
[12:42] <Spurty> Only thing I know that makes $DISPLAY change is crap left over in ppls .bashrc files lol
[12:43] <Kyral> hubuntu, shipit is.....random
[12:43] <robotgeek> zack_: /
[12:43] <dnB> Kyral, tried archive.ubuntu.com with /ubuntu/ and "the specified ubuntu archive mirror is either not available or does not have a valid release file on it, please try a different mirror"
[12:43] <hubuntu> random.. you mean?
[12:43] <mustard5> hubuntu, it could take up to two months to arrive
[12:43] <sklav> anybody know a multiverse?
[12:43] <Dreamflu> agtnz: I'm just going for the full file access in the Live boot with ubuntu
[12:43] <hubuntu> oki :)
[12:43] <zack_> robotgeek: when i start up the manager i click on settings, then go to repositories
[12:43] <sklav> that is fairly updated?
[12:43] <hubuntu> it was just so fast with hoary
[12:43] <hubuntu> but thanx
[12:43] <Kyral> sklav, Backports
[12:43] <zack_> robotgeek: then i go to settings within that so it lets me see archived ones
[12:44] <gardin> my god, i tried ubuntu + kubuntu + crux, 2 cd-players, 2 harddisk's and still it hangs and get errors, i'm going to replace the powersupply tomorrow, or any other idea?
[12:44] <iceman> Dreamflu open a terminal, and just type " sudo apt-get install (Package name) "
[12:44] <hubuntu> I wok at a Cell phone/computer store and  try always to send a copy of ubuntu with every PC we sell...
[12:44] <zack_> robotgeek: but im not seeing anything about multiverse, just a bunch of universe stuff
[12:44] <Spurty> gardin, check your memory (I had to remove a 512meg stick today to get a stable system)
[12:44] <robotgeek> zack_: you need to add a multiverse line.
[12:44] <robotgeek> !rell zack_ about repos
[12:44] <ubotu> robotgeek: Syntax error in line 1
[12:44] <mustard5> Knowerrors, I'd like to know the answer to that question too :)
[12:44] <gardin> hmmm.... i'll se about that tomorrow
[12:44] <robotgeek> !tell zack_ about repos
[12:44] <foxiness> who can help me with synaptic "real problem ,i know it from one year" , it can not do apt-get update after the prgram hung?
[12:44] <zack_> !repos
[12:44] <ubotu> methinks repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[12:44] <n0odl3> which is faster xfce or openbox?
[12:45] <smig> Spurty, but i loose the ability to launch an X-app without having to reload the .bashrc, that disapears ... by itself
[12:45] <gardin> it has one 128MB and one 64MB, maybe there is a conflict between them
[12:45] <hubuntu> I mean what the heck.. I get aroung 10 box for selling Office, I may as well give away the ubuntu cd with OOO and maybe they will fall in love with ubuntu as I did.... that's worth more than 10 dollars to me :)
[12:45] <Dreamflu> agtnz: I've read on the forums that write access does not work with ubuntu standard iso
[12:45] <foxiness> n0odl3, i think openbox
[12:45] <Spurty> smig, msg me some steps to replicate the issue
[12:45] <mustard5> foxiness, after synaptic hangs?
[12:45] <robotgeek> n0odl3: plus openbox is more flexible (i use it in gnome)
[12:45] <foxiness> mustard5, yes
[12:45] <n0odl3> how do i remove xfce is it sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop?
[12:46] <mustard5> foxiness, did you kill the syanptic process?
[12:46] <blank> what is it, make, make install
[12:46] <robotgeek> n0odl3: i think the package name is xfce4
[12:46] <blank> or what, configure, make, make install
[12:46] <foxiness> mustard5, hangs on middle of get the repos from the net "apt-get update"
[12:46] <Knowerrors> mustard5: and anyone else, heres all the details for that error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4383
[12:46] <zack_> robotgeek: is Unrar considered an "outside" repo
[12:46] <hubuntu> is there anything called "xubuntu-destop"  in order to install scfew ?
[12:46] <hubuntu> xcfe?
[12:46] <foxiness> mustard5, yes i did
[12:46] <agtnz> Dreamflu: sorry im not sure
[12:46] <foxiness> mustard5, by xkill
[12:47] <mustard5> foxiness, does apt-get return a lock file error?
[12:47] <robotgeek> zack_: there are 2 versions..unrar (it's free as in speech), and unrar-nonfree (works better)
[12:47] <mustard5> Knowerrors, loading it now.....
[12:47] <erUSUL> n0odl3, openbox is only a windowmanager afaik
[12:48] <blank> can I install a tar.gz package with alien so it converts it to deb?
[12:48] <Juhaz> no
[12:48] <blank> I did it with rpm, why not tar.gz
[12:48] <nadjyla> blan: alien is for rpm to deb.
[12:49] <nadjyla> only
[12:49] <Juhaz> because rpm is kind of like deb, it already has all the metadata needed, tarball contains none
[12:49] <blank> okay, fine, what's the procedure to install tar.gz,  configure, configure install, make install?
[12:49] <nadjyla> read the readme
[12:49] <blank> kay, what's the params for tar.gz
[12:49] <blank> xvf?
[12:49] <dnB> hrm, anyone have any experience using a netboot installation? i think i may not have an active internet connection, as i seem unable to contact any ubuntu mirrors in apt config
[12:49] <blank> xvzf?
[12:49] <erUSUL> hubuntu, yes afaik
[12:49] <robotgeek> blank: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[12:50] <mustard5> Knowerrors, does the drive have an fstab entry as well? or is it just being recongnised by hotplug?
[12:50] <nadjyla> blank, use file-roller for unzip
[12:50] <MarcN> blank: a one liner (if you feel lucky) -- tar zxvf foo.tar.gz; cd foo* &&  ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && sudo make install
[12:50] <cafuego_> 'xfz'
[12:51] <cafuego_> If you need to check where the files go as it unapcks, you're toolate to do anything about it anyway.
[12:51] <grigora> a few days ago, while starting the desktop something crashed and after it crashed it asked me whether I wanted to delete some icons. I said yes, but later realized that I don't know how to add those icons back on. it's the icons on the top/right corner of the desktop. while I managed to add the networking, battery and volume icons, I have no idea how to make GAIM add its icon there when it starts. thanks for any ideas
[12:51] <huttan> Hello, has anyone had problems with madwifi drivers and netgear WG511T wireless card in ubuntu breezy?
[12:51] <robotgeek> grigora: you need 'notification area'
[12:51] <nadjyla> blank,  but before ./configure, read the readme !
[12:51] <acy> Can anyone help me with my sound card?  I have a Creative Soundblaster 16....
[12:51] <butterfly_> hi, just bought my wife a Palm Z22 .. I can't seem to make it work with Ubunto .. any help will be much appriciated
[12:52] <mustard5> grigora, you need to right click on that area and add the 'notification area' back in
[12:52] <Aven> man :((
[12:52] <mustard5> grigora, using 'add to panel'
[12:52] <Pseudo_Placebo> Uhm. Anytime I try to install ubuntu it gives me the following error: "Base system installation error. The debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1). Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.og for the details" Can someone help?
[12:52] <Aven> everytime I add a user from System > Administrator > User and groups, the password changes by itself :(
[12:52] <Aven> what can be causing it?
[12:52] <blank> is tinyxml available through apt-get, sorry it's cause I cant see cuase I'm installing updates and it doesnt let me
[12:53] <grigora> robotgeek: mustard5: many thanks guys, it worked
[12:53] <n0odl3> erUSUL: but you can use it alone
[12:53] <n0odl3> i do
[12:53] <zack_> robotgeek: ok i clicked add repo, then selected multiverse non-free
[12:53] <Ep|phany> i setup a network on my pc using windows and i have a shared folder is there anyway i can accsess this shared folder from ubuntu
[12:53] <sumojim> What is this?
[12:53] <zack_> robotgeek: whenever i try to add them, then update, i get errors saying im either having network problems or they dont exist anymore
[12:54] <MarcN> butterfly_: I have a z22 -- add gnome-pilot to your icon bar (will look like a recycle logo).  Then fire up sync on z22.
[12:54] <isus> Pseudo_Placebo check your cds (iso)
[12:54] <Spurty> Ep|phany, samba-client
[12:54] <zack_> OMG I FOUND IT
[12:54] <dell500> anyone here know how to get dual monitors with fglrx?
[12:54] <MarcN> butterfly_: will be synced with your evolution mail/address/tasks
[12:54] <zack_> joy
[12:54] <Pseudo_Placebo> isus: I have. Downloaded it three times. First time was a shipit disc, second time a downloaded and burned disc. Third time I tried Kubuntu. Srtill messed up.
[12:54] <Ep|phany> spurty can i get it from syaptic
[12:55] <MarcN> butterfly_: or if you like self contained little application, disable the gnome-pilot and use jpilot.
[12:55] <mustard5> Pseudo_Placebo, have you tried verifying the media you are using?
[12:55] <mustard5> Pseudo_Placebo, ah ok
[12:55] <Pseudo_Placebo> I also have two drives on my computer, and tried the CDs in both.
[12:55] <MarcN> butterfly_: you need to tell gnome-pilot that you are syncing with a USB connected pilot
[12:55] <Pseudo_Placebo> So it isn't the CD drive either.
[12:55] <mustard5> Pseudo_Placebo, what type of computer you installing on?
[12:55] <Pseudo_Placebo> A vaio.
[12:55] <Pseudo_Placebo> I've installed Ubuntu on it before, that's not the problem
[12:55] <foxiness> mustard5, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4384 "apt-get update" output the end of the process
[12:55] <Pseudo_Placebo> Uhm.
[12:56] <Pseudo_Placebo> I found another hard drive, and put it in as the slave  drive.
[12:56] <Pseudo_Placebo> I then tried to install Ubuntu on that drive.
[12:56] <mustard5> foxiness, looking now....
[12:56] <smig> Spurty, did you have such problems?
[12:57] <cius> hello
[12:57] <isus> Pseudo_Placebo IDE?
[12:57] <Ep|phany> hey guys
[12:57] <foxiness> hi
[12:57] <Ep|phany> i installed samba
[12:57] <Ep|phany> how do i accsess my shared folder
[12:57] <butterfly_> MarcN it times out
[12:57] <MarcN> butterfly_: configure gnome-pilot to use USB
[12:57] <cius> I've checked the ubuntu site but I can't seemt to find ubuntu's min hardware reqs for a server install, would anyone happen to be able to point me in the right direction.
[12:57] <butterfly_> MarcN I have selected usb
[12:58] <Pseudo_Placebo> isus: I think it's ATA. It might be. I'm really not sure.
[12:58] <isus> Ep|phany sudo mount -t smbfs ///HOSTNAME/FOLDER /mnt/blah_blah
[12:58] <MarcN> butterfly_: /dev/ttyUSB1  right?
[12:58] <Pseudo_Placebo> Woah. Okay.
[12:58] <erUSUL> Ep|phany, Places--> net servers iirci
[12:58] <Ep|phany> isus the folders on my pc which runs windows i just want to accsess it from this laptop
[12:58] <mustard5> foxiness, a bad header error...hmmmm..never seen that one before
[12:58] <butterfly_> MarcN I was using the default /dev/pilot .. sec
[12:58] <Pseudo_Placebo> I installed the master drive, and just plugged in directly to the slave, and Ubuntu (appears) to be installing fine.
[12:58] <Ophiocus> is there any program in linux that would be like a hotel managment program?
[12:58] <Pseudo_Placebo> :/
[12:58] <Knowerrors> mustard5: just hotplug
[12:59] <MarcN> butterfly_: that will only work if you have a link from /dev/pilot to /dev/ttyUSB1
[12:59] <mustard5> foxiness, just as a FYI, there are no breezy backports yet, so disabel backports
[12:59] <mustard5> Knowerrors, you and I are in the same boat it seems....I have not really looked into it much, but I will ask around when i see some people
[12:59] <foxiness> mustard5, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/137
[01:00] <mustard5> Knowerrors, breezy has not been loading up my USB drive at boot up....I've been unplugging it and then pluggin it in again
[01:00] <Knowerrors> cool, thx, have you posted this in the ubu forums?
[01:00] <foxiness> mustard5, is there something can i delete like lock file where can i found this cache "i think i needd to delete something"
[01:00] <isus> Pseudo_Placebo ok,firs time on primary drive,and now on secondary?
[01:00] <Ep|phany> whats a good mp3 player?
[01:00] <mustard5> Knowerrors, no..I usually solve all my issues in here (when I can be bothered asking that is :) )
[01:01] <butterfly_> MarcN ttyUSB1 doesn't exist on my system
[01:01] <mustard5> foxiness, you are not getting a lock file error though..its a bad header error
[01:01] <PJeremy> Ep|phany: xmms, amarok
[01:02] <erUSUL> Ep|phany, rhythmbox
[01:02] <erUSUL> Ep|phany, rhythmbox bmp
[01:02] <Knowerrors> mustard5: so can you even access the drive?
[01:02] <Ep|phany> k im trying xmms
[01:02] <Ep|phany> thanks
[01:02] <mustard5> Knowerrors, PM me an email address ;)
[01:02] <MarcN> butterfly_: plug in the z22 and then do dmesg.  Does it say it added a ttyUSB device?
[01:02] <oofnik> hey, has anyone been able to successfully compile wine from the sourceforge debian repository?
[01:02] <isus> Ep|phany make folder anywhere,than mount -t smbfs //HOSTNAME_OF_YOUR_WINDOWS_MACHINE/SHARED FOLDER /folder/anywhere
[01:03] <Ep|phany> k i got it
[01:03] <mustard5> Knowerrors, yes, I can access my drive after taking it out and putting it back in again...I check that they system can't mount if first through command line...it usually says it doesnt know what the device is
[01:03] <Ep|phany> isus is there anyway i can make a shortcut on my desktop
[01:03] <butterfly_> MarcN sdb
[01:03] <MarcN> butterfly_: that is a SCSI hard drive.
[01:04] <butterfly_> MarcN that's the only thing it shows
[01:04] <Pseudo_Placebo> isus: Yes. (sorry about the delay)
[01:04] <erUSUL> Ep|phany, Places--> net server
[01:04] <Ep|phany> yea i did that erSul
[01:04] <Ep|phany> it works
[01:04] <marlun> Where can I see what all the different colors mean in the terminal?
[01:04] <Ep|phany> i just want to know if i can create a shortcut
[01:04] <isus> Ep|phany to your folder_anywhere
[01:05] <isus> Ep|phany then just mount
[01:05] <marlun> sorry, that didn't sound right, should be more like, where can I see what all the colors used in the terminal means?
[01:05] <butterfly_> MarcN it says usb-storage device found at 13  attached scsi removable disk sdb
[01:05] <foxiness> mustard5, did you think the reinstall may help on this [reinstall synaptic] 
[01:06] <mustard5> foxiness, I would try others solutions before that
[01:06] <b_e_n_z> i am on 5.04... will changing source.list and apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade get me 5.10?
[01:06] <Pseudo_Placebo> isus: It just installed correctly on the secondary drive, with the main drive un-plugged. Bizarre.
[01:06] <mustard5> foxiness, to me it looks like a connection issue
[01:06] <erUSUL> Ep|phany, i do not have smb mounts so i do not know. copying the folder from nautilus to Desktop maybe??
[01:07] <Pseudo_Placebo> I guess I'll just un-plug the secondary drive when I install windows.
[01:07] <Ep|phany> once i have a shared folder is there a way i can listen to music thats in that folder without having to copy it to my paptop
[01:07] <Pseudo_Placebo> Shit. Now I just rebooted with no CD... and it gets a grub error 18.
[01:08] <Pseudo_Placebo> Great.
[01:08] <dnB> lol i ended up having to use the 'ukraine' mirror for the netboot install
[01:08] <dnB> oh well :D
[01:08] <erUSUL> Ep|phany, gnome aware apps (like rhythmbox) should be able...
[01:08] <isus> Pseudo_Placebo seems like problem master/slave ...check it
[01:08] <sklav> later all be back later
[01:08] <Pseudo_Placebo> I'll try to install Ubuntu on master, I guess.
[01:10] <Ep|phany> how come whenever i try and watch something with totem it always says : there were no decoders found to handle this stream you might need corresponding plugins
[01:10] <yohan> how do i change a library linking?
[01:11] <yohan> for isntance of /usr/X11R6/bin/fglrxinfo...libGL.so.1 points to not found, can i fix this?
[01:11] <jilocasin> 'ello all
[01:11] <erUSUL> !tell Ep|phany about w32codecs
[01:12] <Ep|phany> thanks
[01:12] <jilocasin> ubuntu's root system seems wonky
[01:12] <kzutter> Ep|phany: I just solved that by grabbing the codecs from the mplayer site and then installing pitfdll
[01:12] <cafuego_> wonky?
[01:12] <Asa_Negra> www.dualchip.pt
[01:12] <jilocasin> is it possible to find out how to "fix" it?
[01:12] <butterfly_> MarcN got it .. it's now ttyUSB1
[01:12] <cafuego_> jilocasin: It works fine for thousands of people, perhaps the problem isn't IT?
[01:13] <cafuego_> !root
[01:13] <butterfly_> MarcN what do you use for email and contact syncing? Evolution?
[01:13] <ubotu> somebody said root was disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:13] <jilocasin> cafeugo: yep, just finished installing breezy as expert.  IT asked for a root password,
[01:13] <oofnik> can someone please help me with building some source
[01:13] <erUSUL> jilocasin, i'm afraid that "wonky" does not describe the problem
[01:13] <jilocasin> cafeugo: perhaps
[01:13] <yohan> i get this when i try to install fglrx: http://pastebin.com/426112
[01:13] <cafuego_> jilocasin: Yes. *are* you an expert?
[01:13] <yohan> please help me!
[01:13] <kzutter> Ephiphany: I assumed you already had w32codecs - install them first
[01:13] <jilocasin> erUSLU: yes, I know I'm getting to that
[01:14] <erUSUL> yohan, ask
[01:14] <Ep|phany> am i supposed to add this line to my source.list
[01:14] <Ep|phany>  deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas breezy-extras
[01:14] <jilocasin> cafeugo/erUSLU: I installed as expert, it asked for a root pass, asked for another account, asked forthat pass.
[01:14] <corza> Hey guys, I need help with WINE is there something similar that is supported with AMD64?
[01:15] <jilocasin> cafeugo/erUSLU: it doesn't let me logon as "root", ok, so I log in as the other account.
[01:15] <Spurty> Cedega ?
[01:15] <Ep|phany> how do i edit my souces list again i forget
[01:15] <jamie> hi
[01:15] <cafuego_> jilocasin: Yes. Normally the second one would exist,root wouldn't. The normal user would be in the 'admin' group, which has all rights via sudo.
[01:15] <kzutter> exit
[01:15] <Spurty> corza, Cedega perhaps?
[01:15] <oofnik> can someone help me please.. i'm trying to build some source packages but i don't know how exactly..
[01:15] <PJeremy> deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all
[01:15] <yohan> erUSUL: I get this when trying to install ati drivers http://pastebin.com/426112
[01:15] <jilocasin> cafeugo/erUSLU: it tells me that there are 15 updates available, I say show me
[01:15] <MarcN> butterfly_: I'm  back.
[01:15] <corza> Spurty: Cedega is more for games... last time i ran cedega lol it screwed my OS
[01:15] <Xenguy> $EDITOR /etc/apt/sources.list (backup the file first :-)
[01:15] <cafuego_> jilocasin: Are you trying to log in to X or on the console?
[01:15] <Spurty> lol
[01:15] <PJeremy> Ep|phany: why don't you use that line ^^
[01:15] <cafuego_> Ok, X.
[01:15] <jamie> does anyone know how 2 make a server out of linux
[01:15] <MarcN> butterfly_: what were you asking?
[01:15] <jilocasin> it says enter your pass, it do, nothing happens.
[01:16] <PJeremy> Ep|phany: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:16] <butterfly_> MarcN I got dmesg to show ttyUSB.. and when I am trying to sync it times out still
[01:16] <cafuego_> jilocasin: Yes. The system will _NEVER_ ask for the root password, always the USER password.
[01:16] <Xenguy> Ep|phany:  $EDITOR /etc/apt/sources.list (backup the file first :-)
[01:16] <corza> Spurty: but yeah i just want to run DVD Shrink on it because my windows partition is gay and i hate windows lol
[01:16] <MarcN> jamie: you install server type apps.  that's all.
[01:16] <Ep|phany> i figured it out thanks
[01:16] <jamie> wheres them 2
[01:16] <Ep|phany> just trying to remember how to update
[01:16] <Spurty> corza, ah
[01:16] <cafuego_> jilocasin: And for security reasons, root cannot log into X by default (you can enable that, though).
[01:16] <butterfly_> MarcN I was wondering will it be better to use jpilot and what program do you use? Evolution for syncing email and contacts
[01:16] <cafuego_> jilocasin: So then the updates asks for a pass, enter the user pass.
[01:16] <jilocasin> I try to check to see if I'm in the admin grou, it wiki says, start 'users/groups', I try, it runs for a few seconds, flashes a window and disapears, never to work again.
[01:16] <Ep|phany> nevermind
[01:16] <Ep|phany> figured it out
[01:17] <MarcN> butterfly_: or try /dev/ttyUSB0
[01:17] <cafuego_> jilocasin: Open a terminal, type 'groups'.
[01:17] <erUSUL> yohan, why are you using dpkg directly and not apt-get install xorg-... ?
[01:17] <jilocasin> I try to look up this whole root/sudo 'unbuntu' way of doing it.  All I can find in wiki is a few paragraphs tellingme why the sudo way is much better.
[01:17] <butterfly_> MarcN it shows both and I have tried both
[01:17] <butterfly_> visor ttyUSB0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
[01:17] <butterfly_> visor ttyUSB1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1
[01:17] <butterfly_> visor 1-2:1.0: device disconnected
[01:17] <butterfly_> usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7
[01:17] <butterfly_> visor 1-2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter detected
[01:17] <yohan> erUSUL: im following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[01:17] <butterfly_> usb 1-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[01:17] <butterfly_> usb 1-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB1
[01:17] <MarcN> butterfly_: I've used jpilot back before evolution supported sync.  now pretty much just evolution and pilot-xfer to install random prc/pdb files
[01:18] <Ep|phany> after i added a line it tells me this when i try and update W: GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[01:18] <Ep|phany> what does that mean
[01:18] <jilocasin> as far as I can tell, 'normal' install puts the user in the 'admin' group.  the other users aren't.  'expert' mode actaully uses root as the forst acount, it's in admin.  your user acount isn't, but you _can't_ log in as the admin account becasue it's root....
[01:18] <MarcN> butterfly_: do you have gnome-pilot running?  There will be an icon in the notification area.
[01:18] <Xenguy> !tell Ep|phany about gpgerr
[01:18] <corza> can anyone help me out with WINE for AMD64?
[01:19] <MarcN> butterfly_: first sync will do some initial setup.  then it will do a regular sync
[01:19] <jilocasin> wiki, tells me that if I try to undo sudo, I'll break all of the admin tools.
[01:19] <cafuego_> jilocasin: Yes you can, on the console (or type 'su' and enter the root pw in a terminal)
[01:19] <jilocasin> kind of a 'catch-22'
[01:19] <erUSUL> Ep|phany, is harmless you do not have sveas gp key in the roots db
[01:19] <gustavor> what are the sources.list for the server edition?
[01:19] <jamie> where would u install the server apps from
[01:19] <cafuego_> jilocasin: So, open a term, type su, type root pw, type 'adduser <user> admin'; logout, login, done.
[01:19] <sal> I am a new ubuntu user, just switched from fc4.  I like it a lot, but I am used to my xterm's titles being from screen.  Ive googled and read both mans, I don't know how to change it so screen changes the title.
[01:20] <mustard5> Ep|phany, instructions for setting up the gpg key are at the home page of that URL
[01:20] <blank> !tell blank about repos
[01:20] <jilocasin> cafuego: ok, so how do I run as a 'non-admin' user.
[01:20] <dnB> after using a netboot install, i am missing most packages, dont have a GUI, and my network isnt set up correctly, can someone point me to the file to edit so that i can connect to the network?
[01:20] <cafuego_> And stop using 'expert' when you're not one ;-)
[01:20] <Spurty> ROTFL
[01:20] <blank> can you tell ubotu to tell me about ati drivers and repos
[01:20] <cafuego_> jilocasin: How do you mean?
[01:20] <blank> anybody
[01:20] <blank> please
[01:20] <blank> tell ubotu to tell me about ati drivers and repositories
[01:21] <jilocasin> cafuego: I don't trust debian's installer when loading on a 'dual boot' machine.  I've run Debian(pre Sarge), RedHat, and Slackware with less issues.
[01:21] <erUSUL> blank, you can do it ypurself /msg ubotu <keyword>
[01:21] <kbrooks> http://humorix.org/articles/2004/05/transition/
[01:21] <merc> Wow, a lot of people here...
[01:21] <merc> Quick question for you guys
[01:21] <German> Help please!!
[01:21] <German> haha
[01:22] <erUSUL> blank, you can do it yourself '/msg ubotu <keyword>'
[01:22] <merc> What's Ubuntu's IRC client?
[01:22] <blank> erUSUL, it just tells me
[01:22] <mustard5> blank, is your nick registered and have you identified with nickserv?
[01:22] <Spurty> merc, try xchat
[01:22] <ProN00b> can i somehow request something to be put on apt-get ?
[01:22] <jilocasin> cafuego: Is this a 'bug' when installing under expert?
[01:22] <Xenguy> merc: xchat by default
[01:22] <German> Can't open tomboy can anyone help me?
[01:22] <cafuego_> jilocasin: It's fine with dual-boot. it just detects and adds. *if* you have a weird hardware config, there *may* be issues. It's been absolutely fine here on all x86, amd64 and ppc machines, though. It just dected the other OSes and added them to the boot menu.
[01:22] <blank> mustard5: my name is already taken :(
[01:22] <merc> Spurty: And I guess I can just apt-get it?
[01:22] <Spurty> aye
[01:22] <Xenguy> merc: some people use irssi (non-GUI client)
[01:22] <cafuego_> jilocasin: No, it's a feature ;-)
[01:22] <blank> can you just please tell him to, it wont work for me sicne im not registered i think
[01:22] <mustard5> blank, ubotu only talks to registered users
[01:22] <dnB> does anyone know what file i need to edit to setup my network from command line?
[01:22] <blank> yeah, I know, hence why I'm asking
[01:22] <Spurty> xchat has a command line version as well
[01:22] <erUSUL> German, run it from terminal and see the error messages
[01:22] <oofnik> guys i'm trying to build wine source from the sourceforge repository but it's not working.. does anyone want to help me with this please
[01:22] <mustard5> blank, use a different nickname then
[01:23] <Xenguy> dnB: /etc/network/interfaces
[01:23] <merc> Spurty: I am helpung out a friend with Ubuntu
[01:23] <oofnik> i tried downloading the files manually but now i don't really know what to do with them
[01:23] <dnB> Xenguy, thank you
[01:23] <blank> but I like blank :'(
[01:23] <Blank> how bout this
[01:23] <merc> (I'm Tony Mobily, from Free Software Magazine, BTW, and I'm helping Dave Guard :-) )
[01:23] <Xenguy> dnB: wy
[01:23] <cafuego_> Blank: irc is case insensitive
[01:23] <Spurty> merc, no probs. I'm 8mins away from having downloading the iso for Ubuntu
[01:23] <mustard5> Blank, now register and identify
[01:23] <Xenguy> dnB: er, yw
[01:23] <German> erUSUL, i run it but nothing happens, just the prompt
[01:23] <Blank> :'(
[01:23] <erUSUL> !tell Blank about ati
[01:23] <Xenguy> dnB: for details, man interfaces
[01:23] <oofnik> apt-get -b source wine fails..
[01:23] <Xenguy> gtg
[01:23] <Blank> thanks! :S
[01:23] <jilocasin> cafuego_: Let me get this straight, ubuntu sets the 1st account as admin, but with an expert install root is the first account.  Root isn't allowed to login.  This is a feature??? ;)
[01:24] <Blank> repos too please, if you're not busy
[01:24] <erUSUL> !tell Blank about repos
[01:24] <cafuego_> Blank: The moment whoever registered blank comes online, your sessions gets terminated anyway; better to pick something unique now.
[01:24] <Blank> thanks
[01:24] <dnB> Xenguy, thx
[01:24] <cafuego_> jilocasin: Yes.
[01:24] <oofnik> anyone?
[01:24] <Blank> the blank imposter doesnt even come here naymore
[01:24] <erUSUL> German, and tomboy does not appear?? in the notification area?
[01:24] <jilocasin> cafuego_: Sounds like the sort of feature from a certain monopoly in Redmond... ;)
[01:24] <marlun> how can I unpack a tar file to a special directory? I don't get the man page for tar.
[01:24] <cafuego_> jilocasin: Due to security considerations, root cannot log in to X. However, root cna log in at the console just fine. (ctrl-alt-F1 after bootup)
[01:25] <German> erUSUL, nothing happens
[01:25] <oofnik> marlun are you trying to extract the files in a different directory than the one you're working in or what?
[01:25] <trayz> someont speak french???
[01:25] <jilocasin> cafuego_: that much I understand, the 'bug' part is that the first non-root user isn't in the admin group when you install with the 'expert' option.
[01:25] <cafuego_> Blank: Then in due time the nick will expire and you cna grab it.
[01:25] <merc> What's the EASIEST way to install Xchat in Ubuntu? Is there a way through the GUI?
[01:25] <mustard5> merc, its installed by default
[01:25] <robotgeek> merc: it's already installed?
[01:25] <merc> Oh...
[01:25] <merc> I'll check.
[01:25] <merc> Sorry to be lame.
[01:25] <trayz> someone speak french?
[01:25] <n0odl3> is there a hot key to access bash?
[01:26] <oofnik> yeah merc what are you using now?
[01:26] <mustard5> merc, look in applications>>internet
[01:26] <merc> oofnik: BitchX
[01:26] <erUSUL> German, i can not help you. try deleting your .tomboy directory
[01:26] <marlun> oofnik, well, yeah kinda, I'm in a dir with a tar file in it, now I want to extract them to a directory I'm not in.
[01:26] <benplaut> n0odl3: System>Prefences>Keybaord Shortcuts
[01:26] <cafuego_> jilocasin: Yeah, I think that's a feature more then anything else. The idea is that IF you go with expert, you want to be able to use root as admin. (Maybe it should have prompted at install time, but you cna always file a wishlist bug on that).
[01:26] <benplaut> and you can set your own ;)
[01:26] <erUSUL> !tell trayz about fr
[01:26] <oofnik> marlun it should just be tar -options [file]  [dir] 
[01:26] <German> thanks erUSUL
[01:27] <Blank> :D when does the nick expire
[01:27] <cafuego_> Tous les gents en #ubuntu-fr parle franais.
[01:27] <marlun> oofnik, hmmm I believe I tried that, but I'll do it again. thanks
[01:27] <Blank> oui
[01:27] <jilocasin> cafuego_: yes I wanted to have root be the admin, the problem is that the tools expect the 'user' to be admin.
[01:27] <oofnik> let me know
[01:27] <oofnik> so now does someone want to help me? :D
[01:27] <cafuego_> Blank: Whne the expiry time has been reached? ;-)
[01:27] <Blank> :$
[01:27] <cafuego_> jilocasin: The *gnome* tools, yes.
[01:28] <mustard5> oofnik, I can't even remember what your question was ;)
[01:28] <dnB> installed breezy from netboot, have no gui, missing packages, cant get on net, any help
[01:28] <dnB> ?
[01:28] <jilocasin> cafuego_: So whitch tools wouldn't?  the KDE tools?
[01:28] <ProN00b> can i somehow request something to be put on apt-get ?
[01:28] <cafuego_> jilocasin: *console*
[01:28] <mustard5> oofnik, refresh my memory :)
[01:28] <oofnik> haha mustard5 i'm trying to install wine from the sourceforge repository
[01:28] <cafuego_> the word I've been repeating the whole time
[01:28] <oofnik> but it's not working
[01:28] <oofnik> so i downloaded the files manually
[01:28] <mustard5> oofnik, ah ok
[01:28] <n0odl3> benplaut: well my friend can boot into bash but he is at run level zero
[01:28] <oofnik> and i don't quite know what to do from now
[01:28] <benplaut> n0odl3: you've lost me :P
[01:28] <Ep|phany> i installed th w32 codecs but im still getting that error msg in totem
[01:29] <oofnik> i have a .tar.bz2, a .diff.gz, Release, and Sources.gz
[01:29] <Kyral> totem-xine
[01:29] <oofnik> and a .dsc
[01:29] <dnB> assuming the package is installed, anyone know how i can go into gnome or kde from command line?
[01:29] <n0odl3> My friend needs hhelp! When he boots into linux it directs him to a bash shell but he is at level zero
[01:29] <Kyral> you want totem-xine
[01:29] <n0odl3> what should he do?
[01:29] <jilocasin> cafuego_: So unless the user wants to run as admin, stick with the console?
[01:29] <mustard5> mustard5, from memory when I tried this I installed the wineCVS with a script, but that is winex I think
[01:29] <Ep|phany> kyral are you talking to me?
[01:29] <Kyral> yah
[01:29] <mustard5> oofnik,  from memory when I tried this I installed the wineCVS with a script, but that is winex I think
[01:29] <Ep|phany> where do i get that
[01:29] <Kyral> repos
[01:30] <cafuego_> jilocasin: Either use the console to add the user to the admin group, or use a normal install, basically.
[01:30] <oofnik> mustard5 yeah cvs is totally different
[01:30] <Ep|phany> k
[01:30] <Ep|phany> lemme look
[01:30] <Kyral> sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[01:30] <oofnik> mustard5 it's supposed to work using apt-get --build source wine
[01:30] <jilocasin> cafuego_: Perhaps I've been spoiled in Deb & Slack, I start an admin tool, if it needs privs it prompts for the root pass, I admin.
[01:31] <erUSUL> n0odl3, is little information you gave us. maybe he screewed up grub and it boots by default into rescue mode??
[01:31] <jilocasin> cafuego_: "I" don't need to have admin privs
[01:31] <mustard5> oofnik, have you looked at the wine HOW TO's smattered around the ubuntu forums?
[01:31] <dnB> someone help please? i can ping my router, however i cant get outside the lan, anyone have any ideas?
[01:31] <n0odl3> erUSUL: so what do you suggest he do?
[01:31] <merc> Thanks a lot folks!
[01:31] <jilocasin> cafuego_: it's the microsoft model, with the addition of a password prompt.
[01:31] <oofnik> yeah mustard5 it just says to do apt-get build-dep wine, then apt-get --build-source wine
[01:32] <n0odl3> How can my friend get out of run level zero in bash?
[01:32] <Spurty> init 3
[01:32] <oofnik> the first command works, but --build-source tries to get a file that doesn't exist because apparently the person who uploaded it didnt type the name correctly or something
[01:32] <Buddha|> Does anyone here use the WindowLab windowmanager?
[01:32] <les> how do i correct repository key error
[01:32] <ubuntu_> o
[01:32] <dell500> does anyone know what this means, i get it when i do 'sudo aticonfig --dtop=horizontal --overlay-on=1'
[01:33] <jilocasin> Is there any Breezt docs besides that Wiki?
[01:33] <dell500> Warning: Failed to set hardware overlay to head 1 immediately.
[01:33] <dell500> Warning: Option 'DesktopSetup' doesn't affect running session.
[01:33] <erUSUL> jilocasin, no it is not. not everbody is in the sudoers file only the admin of the machine.
[01:33] <erUSUL> n0odl3, telinit 3
[01:33] <bloke9> my Ubuntu install stops when it gets to 75% I tried installing again tho it stops inthe middle, second time it stops after the frist reboot while installing things. anybody knows why???
[01:34] <oofnik> bloke9 did you download the ISO and burn it?
[01:34] <bloke9> oofnik , shhhhh!!!!! OjO! q eze zoi shooo!
[01:34] <dnB> bloke9, have you tried different media?
[01:34] <bloke9> dnB , shhhhh!!!!! OjO! q eze zoi shooo!
[01:34] <mustard5> oofnik, hmmm... I'm at a loss then, as I really don't know much about builing from source
[01:34] <bloke9> yea
[01:34] <jilocasin> erUSUL: So if I want to run as a non-admin account, I have to have an admin account (in the admin group), my regular account, and root
[01:34] <oofnik> eh.. alright thanks anyway mustard5
[01:34] <bloke9> i tried other cds with the same ubuntu and also tried other cds. my cdplayer works
[01:34] <oofnik> well anyway so can someone help me build wine sources?
[01:34] <mustard5> oofnik, I'm more the 'cut and paste' from how to type of user ;)
[01:35] <blank> !tell blank about restrictedformats
[01:35] <jilocasin> erUSUL: When I'm logged into as the regular account, I can't do any admining, unless I use the console.  Otherwise I have to log out and log back in as 'administrator'
[01:35] <mustard5> copy and paste doh
[01:35] <oofnik> haha mustard5 i know what you mean
[01:35] <blank> grr...can someone do it for me
[01:35] <erUSUL> jilocasin, you do not need root. i do not use root.
[01:35] <blank> tell ubotu to tell me about restricted formats, last time i promise
[01:35] <blank> nvm i found it
[01:35] <oofnik> no one knows how to build sources? :(
[01:35] <Madpilot> jilocasin: use sudo w/ your regular account - no need to log in and out all the time...
[01:35] <bloke9> oofnik i'm installing with the free original cds
[01:36] <bloke9> it just wont go more than 75%
[01:36] <jilocasin> erUSUL: well, it won't let me check for updates without being admin, it won't let me look at the ntfs mounts without admin, it won't let me see the users/groups without being admin.... (that's what I've found out so far)
[01:36] <dnB> oofnik, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[01:36] <Robert-in-AUS> i am trying to get the ipw2200 drivers + wpa working and i followed the guide to install the kernel-headers but they don't seem to be ther what do i need to compile stuff?
[01:36] <erUSUL> jilocasin, is not a regular account as it is in the sudoers file. if you do not like it edit sudoers and delete the entry
[01:37] <oofnik> dnB that's what i'm trying
[01:37] <jilocasin> Madpilot: No, I can't, by some quirk of the ubuntu installer, I'm NOT in the admin group, and to be honest, I don't want to be, that's what root is for.
[01:37] <oofnik> it says to apt-get --build source wine
[01:37] <oofnik> and tries to download files that aren't there and stops
[01:37] <dnB> yeek
[01:37] <marlun> oofnik, Ok I'm still having problems, I've managed to gunzip it so now it's only a .tar file, but now to extract it to another dir, what options should I use? If I use tar -x file directory, everything freezes and I have to click CTRL+c to get back.
[01:37] <oofnik> bloke9 what's your hardware like
[01:37] <bloke9> oofnik , shhhhh!!!!! OjO! q eze zoi shooo!
[01:37] <jilocasin> Madpilot: Apperently from what I've been hearing sudo only works 'if' you are _in_ the admin group.
[01:38] <Ophiocus> does anyone have any ideas why the barrage game runs out of sync in gnome?
[01:38] <erUSUL> jilocasin, in ubuntu you have that the first account is admin and in sudoers file. the rest are normal users.
[01:38] <oofnik> marlun, try tar -xvf
[01:38] <Madpilot> jilocasin: if you did a standard install of Ubuntu, your first user should be in the sudo group by default...
[01:38] <erUSUL> jilocasin, sudo only works if you are in /etc/sudoers
[01:38] <Siph0n> if im missing zlib.h, is there a safe place to go to get it? like is there a common zlib.h file somewhere?
[01:38] <oofnik> v is verbose, f is.. i don't know but i always see it tacked onto the options so it probably does something important haha
[01:38] <bloke9> oofnik i have 156Mb an intel celeron 466 and a pc100 based motherboard
[01:39] <mustard5> Knowerrors, you read this already from the forums? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39492&highlight=utf8+usb+drive+problem
[01:39] <oofnik> bloke9 156mb of hard drive space?
[01:39] <bloke9> oofnik , shhhhh!!!!! OjO! q eze zoi shooo!
[01:39] <bloke9> 156Mb RAM
[01:39] <jilocasin> erUSUL:If you've been following what cefeugo_ said, if you inatll withthe expert option the first user (the one that's in the admin group) is root.
[01:40] <oofnik> bloke9.. ram doesn't come in 156mb.. but uh that's pretty low for a full desktop
[01:40] <bloke9> oofnik , shhhhh!!!!! OjO! q eze zoi shooo!
[01:40] <folki> Can I ask u something?
[01:40] <jilocasin> erUSUL: Second, none of the gnome admin tools work (with sudo) _unless_ you are running as an account (not root) that's in the admin group.
[01:40] <IcemanV9> bloke9: have you tried install 'server'?
[01:40] <bloke9> IcemanV9 , shhhhh!!!!! OjO! q eze zoi shooo!
[01:40] <oofnik> bloke9 what's with that auto response thing
[01:40] <bloke9> oofnik , shhhhh!!!!! OjO! q eze zoi shooo!
[01:40] <darkheart> Yes...run.
[01:40] <folki> I need to know what does it means when bash write me this: "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[01:40] <folki> "
[01:41] <Madpilot> folki: that probably means you've got Synaptic running
[01:41] <jilocasin> erUSUL: If I normally use a non-admin account, then I have to logout and logback in as "administrator" (or ant account in the admin group)
[01:41] <darkheart> folki You are using 2 programs that are trying to access the repository db
[01:41] <folki> oh yes, really, thanks
[01:41] <oofnik> so um does anyone have any ideas why apt-get --build source wine doesn't work and what i can do instead?
[01:41] <bloke9> well it says that i need 128Mb RAM for desktop in the original CD
[01:42] <Madpilot> jilocasin: you can give your main account sudo privs, can't you?
[01:42] <jilocasin> Madpilot: sure, by making it an "admin"
[01:42] <oofnik> bloke9 128mb is enough for something like IceWM but a full gnome desktop needs a lot more than that to run efficiently
[01:42] <marlun> oofnik, I get this: tar: ./test: Not found in archive
[01:43] <jilocasin> Madpilot: as per cafuego_ go to a console as root, "adduser <user> admin"
[01:43] <bloke9> the thing is that even runnin slow the system runs. my problem here is this unexpected halt during the install process
[01:43] <marlun> oofnik, I'm trying to extract it to a directory "test" which is inside the same directory as the tar file.
[01:43] <IcemanV9> bloke9: my other lappy have 128Mb RAM and it worked just fine. in your case, it stopped @ 75%, by all means, try to install 'server' to see if it goes all the way
[01:43] <oofnik> marlun you think you can just use file-roller for this?
[01:43] <dnB> assuming you end up with a server install, how do you go about installing the rest from the command line?
[01:43] <jilocasin> Madpilot: I can do that on a windows box as well, add my acount to the administrators group.
[01:43] <opnsrc> Does anyone know how I can get a trash can on the destop with a trash can icon
[01:43] <opnsrc> I so far got the trash can but no trash can icon, I can't seem to find it
[01:44] <marlun> oofnik, proberbly, but I want to learn how to use tar :)
[01:44] <jilocasin> Madpilot: I don't run as admin there, I don't like to run as admin in linux either.
[01:44] <opnsrc> Under command it's nautilus Trash:
[01:44] <erUSUL> jilocasin, if i understand correctly you are complining becouse only users in admin group can admin the machine?
[01:44] <opnsrc> BTW, thanks everyone
[01:44] <blank> can someone tell me what repos I can find java-package in?
[01:45] <oofnik> ok marlun try changing into your working directory and point tar to the full location of the file
[01:45] <nickrud> blank, it's in multiverse
[01:45] <oofnik> so like tar -xvf /home/marlun/file.tar.gz
[01:46] <bloke9> oofnik
[01:46] <bloke9> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25327.html
[01:46] <erUSUL> jilocasin, but as an admin you are a normal user as long you do not use sudo, that's the point
[01:46] <bloke9> this is my problem
[01:46] <mnroder> I have a bad block on a XP laptop.  When I do a liveCD boot of 5.10 it is hanging on Starting Enterprise Volume Management System.    Is there a way to set a boot param to not mount the local disks?
[01:47] <Madpilot> jilocasin: having sudo privs != running as admin the whole time...
[01:47] <Siph0n> how do i know if i have the most updated zlib.h file???
[01:47] <blank> I have multiverse and I cant find it
[01:47] <oofnik> hm bloke9 maybe your cdrom drive is incompatible too
[01:47] <blank> tell ubotu to tell me about repos
[01:47] <jilocasin> erSul: No, actually I'm complaining about the fact that apparently in ubuntu, I can't su to run an admin tool when I'm logged in as a normal user.  I have to either put myself in the admin group, or create a seperate "administrator" account to admin the box.  The perfectly funtional "root" account that I would log in as to do big time admining isn't supported. which brings me back to the windows model.
[01:47] <marlun> oofnik, If I do "tar xfv file.tar" everything works great, however it extract into the same directory and not a directory of my choosing.
[01:48] <foampeace> how do i make it rain on my linux desktop
[01:48] <foampeace> while im working
[01:48] <opnsrc> any ideas?
[01:48] <Buddha|> Does anyone here use the WindowLab windowmanager?
[01:48] <oofnik> marlun from what i understand now tar just extracts into wherever you are, you can't tell it to extract somewhere.. so you have to cd into your working directory first, then point tar to the file from there and extract it
[01:48] <nickrud> blank?
[01:49] <oofnik> alright since no one can help me with wine sources i have a new problem with gaim
[01:49] <erUSUL> jilocasin, root account is not supported for secuity reasons. everythin you do with sudo is logged what you do as root in other linuxes is not
[01:49] <sidizen> how do i give myself permission to write to /dev/sda1?
[01:49] <oofnik> i can't get file transfers to work at all, ever
[01:49] <oofnik> and i have no firewall
[01:49] <oofnik> using AIM protocol
[01:49] <mustard5> sidizen, what type file format is it on sda1?
[01:49] <sidizen> vfat
[01:50] <sidizen> it's a usb device
[01:50] <opnsrc> Anyone know how to put a trash can on the desktop?
[01:50] <mustard5> sidizen, on a usb hub?
[01:50] <sidizen> yup
[01:50] <marlun> oofnik, ah ok, thanks I'll try that
[01:50] <mustard5> sidizen, you are in the usb drive usb hub bug then :)
[01:50] <sidizen> shit...you mean i can't write to the usb drive?
[01:50] <erUSUL> sidizen, you should have permisions...
[01:51] <sidizen> i don't
[01:51] <jilocasin> brb
[01:51] <oofnik> maan come on i know someone in here knows gaim...
[01:51] <nickrud> opnsrc, apps->system-tools->config editor, edit the page /apps/nautilus/desktop
[01:51] <oofnik> please guys
[01:51] <mustard5> erUSUL, I've just been reading about all this...breezy is not working with USB hubs properly...or cheap usb hubs are not working with breezy ..it seems to be something like that
[01:51] <liable> hmm, every once in a while, when i reboot, my root Bash_history gets zeroed. any clues wtf is causing this?
[01:51] <bur[n] er> oofnik: you have a router?
[01:51] <sidizen> this worked before with breezy
[01:51] <sidizen> i don't know why it's not now
[01:51] <nickrud> opnsrc, check trash_icon_visible
[01:52] <bur[n] er> sidizen: ls -l the mount point
[01:52] <liable> oops, wrong window..
[01:52] <erUSUL> mustard5, good to know
[01:52] <mustard5> sidizen, I have the same issue
[01:52] <jonmasters> Lack of free space for /root files.
[01:52] <oofnik> yeah bur[n] er i do
[01:52] <oofnik> but i set myself as DMZ host
[01:52] <mustard5> sidizen, I have to unplug the drive and plug it back in to get it working
[01:52] <bur[n] er> oofnik: set up port forwarding
[01:52] <sidizen> total 0
[01:52] <jonmasters> liable: That was aimed at you.
[01:52] <bur[n] er> oofnik: oh... and you still can't?  sure the DMZ is working?
[01:52] <bur[n] er> oofnik: try with port forwarding anyway... sometimes DMZ is messed up
[01:52] <oofnik> pretty sure.. it works for vnc
[01:52] <oofnik> ok, do you know which ports i should forward?
[01:52] <bur[n] er> oofnik: wanna try to send me a file?
[01:53] <mustard5> bur[n] er, have you fixed this issue yourself?
[01:53] <sidizen> wierd that worked
[01:53] <EasterSunshine> hi all, can someone talk me thru installing lilypond_2.6.3-9_i386.deb? i get a lot of dependency problems
[01:53] <sidizen> !
[01:53] <ubotu> sidizen: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:53] <dnB> oofnik, behind my router, the only way i could dcc with gaim was to have the other person request it :shrug:
[01:53] <oofnik> sure bur[n] er what's your sn
[01:53] <freddy> hello, i have a question, i have hoary installed, and wanted to know something, i downloaded the new version of ubuntu..and i would like to know if the way to upgrade is just to put the cd in the drive, and just reboot and upgrade without touching the files...or how do i do about going thru that..thanks in advance.
[01:53] <bur[n] er> oofnik: the port is set in tools -> preferences -> Network ->start port/end port
[01:53] <sidizen> thanks mustard5
[01:53] <mustard5> sidizen, I'm hoping to find a better solution soon :)
[01:53] <bur[n] er> mustard5: i did
[01:54] <mustard5> bur[n] er, how did you go about it please?
[01:54] <bur[n] er> mustard5: check permissions on mount point first
[01:54] <bur[n] er> then... is /dev/sda1 in your /etc/fstab?
[01:54] <oofnik> bur[n] er shouldn't i just keep it as default? how will other clients know which ports
[01:54] <jonmasters> freddy: You can reboot and run the installer, but it's often just as easy to change /etc/apt/sources.list to replace the hoary references with the newer release and run "apt-get update" and then "apt-get dist-upgrade".
[01:54] <rendi> Source/plugin-ui.cpp:45:2: #error libXpm has not been found. Compilation cannot continue
[01:54] <rendi>  <== can help me ?
[01:54] <bur[n] er> oofnik: the other clients just use what you tell em to use, it doesn't matter
[01:55] <mustard5> bur[n] er, I would have to recreate the issue first, as I have already unplugged it and plugged it back in again (which makes it functional)...the problem is hotplug setting it up at boot up
[01:55] <bur[n] er> oofnik: i use a range of 5911 to 5912 for example
[01:55] <freddy> jonmasters, ok, the often way i dont know how to achieve it
[01:55] <freddy> how do i replace this for that?
[01:55] <freddy> and etc
[01:55] <oofnik> ah alright bur[n] er i'll try that thanks
[01:55] <opnsrc> thanks
[01:55] <bur[n] er> mustard5: oh, nevermind, seperate issue
[01:55] <opnsrc> uhm.....
[01:55] <barcay> Can someone tell me what the difference is between the i386 image and the i686 image?
[01:56] <opnsrc> I can't find apps>system tools
[01:56] <liable> dnB: duh, i misinterpreted that, theres no HISTSIZE set..
[01:56] <mustard5> bur[n] er, k
[01:56] <freddy> jonmasters, i dont want to format, cause i have a lot of data...i just want to upgrade
[01:57] <mustard5> bur[n] er, are you using a usb hub yourself?
[01:57] <sidizen> i686 for greater than pentium II
[01:57] <bur[n] er> mustard5: i am
[01:57] <sidizen> i386 for old computers
[01:57] <jonmasters> freddy: It might be easier to refer to the documentation. I'm a Debian user and am talking about the Debian way, but there's got to be a more friendly way to do it from synaptic or similar.
[01:57] <Fearan> barcay: one is for i386 processors, and i686 is for pentium ii,iii,iv
[01:57] <dnB> centrinos use 386 too right?
[01:57] <sidizen> Fearan: and celeron and so on
[01:57] <jonmasters> freddy: I am also not talking about running any format.
[01:57] <mustard5> bur[n] er, hmmmm..that just adds more confusion to the issue..I take it its a better quality usb hub perhaps?
[01:57] <dabaR> freddy: you can upgrade from the cd too.
[01:57] <marlun> oofnik, Well I tried to go into the directory where I wanted it to be extracted to, and then do tar xfv /path/to/tarfile but that didn't work, seems that I have to extract it in the same directory as the tar file and then use mv to move the directory/files to the place where I want them.
[01:57] <bur[n] er> i686 is also for petium m (centrino) and amd k6-2, k7, athlon, sempron, celerons
[01:57] <freddy> dabaR, just putthe cd in and thats it?
[01:57] <opnsrc> found it
[01:57] <opnsrc> thanks
[01:57] <freddy> no format? :D
[01:57] <bur[n] er> mustard5: could be
[01:57] <dnB> bur[n] er, it insisted on using 386 when i installed onto my centrino
[01:58] <dabaR> freddy: no, off course not, for that, you would install.
[01:58] <EasterSunshine> anyone has successfully installed the newest version of lilypond?
[01:58] <manicka> ***manicka waves
[01:58] <jonmasters> freddy: It will never format unless you agree to. Just use the CD.
[01:58] <bur[n] er> dnB: u can get linux-686 and be fine
[01:58] <dabaR> freddy: put it in now, while you are still in ubuntu
[01:58] <dnB> bur[n] er, thanks, good to know
[01:58] <freddy> jonmasters, yes i think thats the friendly way..thanks a lot
[01:58] <oofnik> marlun.. maybe you can just use the GUI archive program?
[01:58] <barcay> Fearan sidizen: OK, looks like Im using the wrong image. I have a Celeron D processor and Im using the i386 image. Would that explain why the performace is a little sluggish?
[01:58] <oofnik> save and save yourself some headache
[01:58] <jilocasin> back
[01:58] <bur[n] er> linux-386 is just more failsafe and will work on even old old computers
[01:58] <marlun> oofnik, hehe yeah =)
[01:58] <sidizen> barcay: it might :)
[01:58] <freddy> dabaR, i have the iso..i need to burn it into a cd......i think ill have to wait until tomorrow to buy one :(
[01:58] <Fearan> barcay: yeah, probably
[01:59] <sidizen> barcay: the i686 should make it quicker
[01:59] <bur[n] er> barcay: possibly... probably other things related though
[01:59] <bur[n] er> barcay: have enough RAM?  is your video card set up correctly?
[01:59] <phantom2000mx> p
[01:59] <jonmasters> bur[n] er: I think now it requires an actual co-processor, but there's no Intel box under a decade old without one.
[01:59] <oofnik> marlun i know.. you want to know how to do it the command line way because you feel lazy using the gui tool right :P
[01:59] <bur[n] er> jonmasters: what requires a co-processor?
[02:00] <oofnik> co-processor!! ahh old!
[02:00] <Fearan> lol
[02:00] <sidizen> can you burn a cd images with ubuntus default cd burner that's built in to nautilus?
[02:00] <Venson> like a co-pilot
[02:00] <dabaR> freddy: you can mount the iso.
[02:00] <jonmasters> bur[n] er: AFAIK 2.6 on 386 now needs a 386 co-procesor. I seem to recall a patch a while back which changed that.
[02:00] <jilocasin> does anyone know how to grant a user sudo privs?
[02:00] <jonmasters> visudo
[02:00] <dabaR> freddy: just upgrade thourgh the net.
[02:00] <barcay> bur[n] er: 1GB RAM - The video card is using the default configuration, how can I verify if it set up correctly. To be honest Im a little disappointed with the performance. Windoze ran a lot quicker.
[02:00] <freddy> dabaR, dont have that much bandwith..
[02:01] <freddy> lemme mount the iso
[02:01] <neighborlee> anyone know the fix for a grub-install /dev/hda error ?? ( in this case:: /dev/hdb1 does not have any corrresponding BIOS drive) <<<
[02:01] <dabaR> freddy: haha...
[02:01] <freddy> i thought it needed to reboot to upgrade
[02:01] <bur[n] er> barcay: what kind of video card?
[02:01] <dabaR> freddy: dial up? where?
[02:01] <opnsrc> thanks
[02:01] <dnB> freddy, it only reboots if you upgrade kernel, and thats after upgrade is complete
[02:01] <freddy> dabaR, venezuela.
[02:01] <jonmasters> neighborlee: I seem to recall you can tell grub explicitly which drives you have. There's a map file somewhere.
[02:02] <neighborlee> jonmasters, you mean device.map in /boot/grub ?
[02:02] <freddy> O-o
[02:02] <freddy> Pablo, what are you doing here?
[02:02] <jonmasters> That might well be the one :-)
[02:02] <jonmasters> :-)
[02:02] <freddy> i dont have cocaine this time
[02:02] <freddy> go away.
[02:02] <Bofia> hey
[02:02] <dabaR> haha
[02:03] <Pablo> I leik the girls of venezuela
[02:03] <barcay> bur[n] er: Just a standard integrated Intel controller. Nothing fancy.
[02:03] <Bofia> is it safe to make a swap partition from the live cd and use it?
[02:03] <freddy> Pablo, i like them too
[02:03] <freddy> :P
[02:03] <crimsun> Bofia: sure
[02:03] <neighborlee> jonmasters, thing is Im not sure what syntax to use offhand
[02:03] <oofnik> so who's running breezy?
[02:03] <crimsun> err, that's all very off-topic.
[02:03] <Razor-X> does anyone know how you can get urxvt to copy to both the primary and cliboard X buffers instead of just the primary buffer?
[02:03] <Pablo> will you share?
[02:03] <bur[n] er> barcay: try doing "glxinfo |grep direct" in a term and seeing if direct rendering: yes... if it says no, that's not a good thing
[02:03] <jonmasters> neighborlee: I'd have to read the docs.
[02:03] <freddy> Pablo, sure man
[02:03] <Bofia> but where does the space of the swap partition come from?
[02:03] <freddy> but not my girl
[02:03] <Bofia> i have 2 partitions
[02:03] <Pablo> good
[02:03] <freddy> :D
[02:03] <Pablo> ;)
[02:03] <Bofia> 1 fat32 and 1 ntfs
[02:03] <neighborlee> jonmasters, no biggie...let me see if I can find something about it
[02:03] <_Dez> how do i get my box info like 1.3GHZ ram hd blah blah
[02:03] <bur[n] er> Bofia: u need a swap partition
[02:04] <jilocasin> ok, what should I enter after I've typed visudo as root?
[02:04] <barcay> bur[n] er: Its set to yes.
[02:04] <jonmasters> cat /proc/cpuinfo && free
[02:04] <bur[n] er> _Dez: in a term "cat /proc/cpuinfo && cat /proc/free
[02:04] <jonmasters> jilocasin: Find the default user entry and copy it.
[02:04] <jilocasin> jonmasters: there isn't one.
[02:05] <jonmasters> bur[n] er: Or he could type what I just said, which is the same.
[02:05] <jilocasin> jonmasters: the two lines that aren't commented out are:
[02:05] <bur[n] er> jonmasters: well, you beat me
[02:05] <marlun> oofnik, something like that ;P well no, not lazy but it's bugging me that it doesn't work to extract it to any directory.
[02:05] <jilocasin> Defaults          !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn
[02:05] <jonmasters> bur[n] er: Oh, ok. lag.
[02:05] <sidizen> can nautilus burn .iso ?
[02:06] <jilocasin> root     ALL=(ALL)  ALL
[02:06] <sidizen> or do i need k3b?
[02:06] <jilocasin> that's it
[02:06] <jonmasters> jilocasin: For a quick hack, copy the root line and replace user.
[02:06] <blank> what do you guys like as an mp3 player
[02:06] <bur[n] er> sidizen: nautilus can
[02:06] <blank> what's your favorite mp3 player for linux
[02:06] <jonmasters> jilocasin: Then you can confine it down by reading the sudo docs.
[02:06] <rain`> Hi, I had loop mounted a cd image, but now after I unmounted the cd, I can no longer mount it again "ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy" how can I free up that device?
[02:06] <bur[n] er> blank: amarok :)
[02:06] <jonmasters> blank: xmms.
[02:06] <marlun> oofnik, going to bed now, thanks for the help! (even though I didn't get it to work :P)
[02:06] <nadjyla> blackhat, xmms2 , amarok, euphoria :p
[02:07] <rain`> rhythmnbox
[02:07] <blank> I like xmms too
[02:07] <barcay> sidizen Fearan bur[n] er: Some distros suggest that I use the 64Bit image as the Celeron D support EM64. Any thoughts on this?
[02:07] <bur[n] er> blank: banshee
[02:07] <blank> xmms2?
[02:07] <jonmasters> An attempt to fix xmms.
[02:07] <jonmasters> But it'll never work.
[02:07] <jonmasters> :-)
[02:07] <nadjyla> lol
[02:08] <sidizen> *ditto
[02:08] <sidizen> 64 bit support isn't all that good yet
[02:08] <jonmasters> It is for me.
[02:08] <jonmasters> But not on x86 :-)
[02:10] <Fearan> barcay: i don't know much about 64-bit architecture... i
[02:10] <oofnik> see ya later marlun
[02:10] <cafuego_> it's fine. The problem is that some people think that Flash is a good idea.
[02:10] <Fearan> barcay: i don't know much about 64-bit architecture... i'm still running an old pIII
[02:11] <blank> if I wanna setup a mysql server, what package do I get
[02:11] <bur[n] er> mmm flash
[02:11] <blank> mysql-admin or -client
[02:11] <blank> and should I get apache or apache2
[02:11] <jonmasters> I'd go for -server, but I don't know what it is in Ubuntu.
[02:11] <cafuego_> blank: Strangely, mysql-server.
[02:11] <blank> -_-
[02:12] <cafuego_> blank: mysqls erver is unrelated to apache. Did you want php and mysql maybe?
[02:12] <cafuego_> Then you'll want apache2-mpm-prefork, mysql-server and php4-mysql
[02:12] <jilocasin> cafuego_: I tried "adduser <user> admin" but it says that there isn't an admin group
[02:12] <blank> I want php, apache, and mysql
[02:12] <blank> so mysql-server is the one, but what about php and apache?
[02:12] <jonmasters> I want it all and I want it now.
[02:13] <cafuego_> blank: Yes. See what I said before?
[02:13] <blank> cafuego: thanks :D
[02:13] <cafuego_> jilocasin: Ok, so the expert install doesn't set up sudo.
[02:13] <jilocasin> cafuego_: but *EVERYTHING* pretty much depends on sudo,
[02:14] <jilocasin> cafuego_:  so tell me again how this is a _feature_ ?
[02:14] <cafuego_> jilocasin: *YOU* chose to do an expert install without being one ;-)
[02:15] <cafuego_> jilocasin: As for it being a feature, you should ask the policy makers/packagers, I just call 'em as I see 'em.
[02:15] <Anonyno> Me ayudan por favor con la configuracin del vsftpd?
[02:15] <jilocasin> cafuego_: Yep, I chose the same install I normally do when I install Debian.  Never had a problem there yet.  Heck, I even helped beta test the new installer.
[02:16] <jonmasters> jilocasin: Though even on Debian it helps to get gnome-sudo working.
[02:16] <pavelich> hey
[02:16] <pavelich> i need help
[02:16] <jonmasters> Then you can actually go stuff graphically.
[02:16] <cafuego_> jilocasin: Like I said, ask the policy makers/packagers. They decided it should be so.
[02:16] <funkyHat> has anyone here used the installer tool on the live CD?
[02:17] <NewWithoutClue> Xorg/X has crashed ( black screen ) syslog gave me this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4389   ....any ideas on where to start fixing this?
[02:17] <Lars_G> Hi all.
[02:17] <jilocasin> jonmasters: I've never used sudo in debian, normal user acount, when I run a gnome admin tool it asks me for the root password, su into the admin app, and away I go.
[02:17] <pavelich> i am new to linux and loving ubuntu, but i need to install a new audio driver and i have a tar.gz package file, what would the command in terminal be to use this file
[02:17] <Lars_G> Has anyone used the Genius VideoCam Trek based on the chip SN9C101 in Breezy?
[02:17] <crimsun> pavelich: what do you need to install
[02:18] <pavelich> the audio drivers
[02:18] <Lars_G> Driver loads ok (it seems) but when I try to see or capture from /dev/video0 the kernel freezes
[02:18] <pavelich> for my card
[02:18] <jilocasin> jonmasters: when I'm done, it's just little old me.
[02:18] <pavelich> i found a tar.gz package file for it, but i am not familiar with any terminal commands
[02:18] <jonmasters> NewWithoutClue : are you rebooting during that?
[02:19] <NewWithoutClue> no...it went black, and becuase i'm used to it crashing i new to hit ctrl+alt+del...that's why it has the reboot message
[02:19] <crimsun> pavelich: which audio drivers?
[02:19] <mustard5> My USB drive using a USB hub is not mounting at bootup need help :)
[02:20] <blank> hey guys whats this postfix configuration, debconf on blankpc thing
[02:20] <jonmasters> Try running just "X :1" from a console as root and see if it fails.
[02:20] <NewWithoutClue> alright
[02:20] <NewWithoutClue> jonmasters ^^
[02:21] <Anonyno> What line I have to configurate in /etc/vsftpd.conf?
[02:22] <NewWithoutClue> jonmasters, it loaded to the grey background and black X cursor
[02:22] <pavelich> anyone know whats a good way to rip dvds
[02:22] <jonmasters> Now try "export DISPLAY=:1 && gnome-session"
[02:22] <NewWithoutClue> jonmasters, ok be back
[02:23] <jonmasters> Using another console...
[02:24] <crimsun> pavelich: still awaiting an answer...
[02:25] <Gstar> lo
[02:25] <stuNNed> hi does latest livecd support ntfs rw?
[02:25] <crimsun> stuNNed: no
[02:25] <pavelich> oh sorry crimsum
[02:25] <Gstar> quiet tonight
[02:25] <pavelich> um
[02:25] <NewWithoutClue> jonmasters, GTK warning: cannot open display
[02:25] <pavelich> hn
[02:25] <stuNNed> crimsun, can't install captive with it?
[02:25] <crimsun> stuNNed: sure you can, just install build-essential, gcc-3.4, and linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:25] <jonmasters> Did you start the X server first?
[02:25] <NewWithoutClue> -.-"
[02:26] <NewWithoutClue> be back, jonmasters
[02:26] <stuNNed> thanks crimsun
[02:26] <stuNNed> crimsun, ok thanks
[02:27] <pavelich> its a cheap ten dollar sound card, the product number is cmi8738
[02:27] <pavelich> i think its c-media
[02:27] <pavelich> the company
[02:27] <okiaro> i have just install ubuntu and my monitor complains that it 'cant display mode'
[02:27] <okiaro> how/where do i change screen resolution?
[02:27] <pavelich> i bought is from tigerdirect
[02:28] <medication> anyone know why I might be getting the following error message? W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[02:28] <crimsun> medication: stuff is syncing, known.
[02:28] <medication> ah.
[02:28] <medication> thanks
[02:29] <medication> <--- still pretty much a noob
[02:30] <crimsun> pavelich: does snd_intel8x0 not work at all?
[02:30] <crimsun> pavelich: cat /proc/asound/cards
[02:30] <NewWithoutClue> jonmasters, gnome is loading now ( i have 128 RAM ) so it will take awhile...but it is loading
[02:31] <medication> crimsun, do you have any thoughts why a rh server might have a ton of 'dirty' memory that it won't free up?
[02:31] <maney> has anyone noticed a spurious reset of courier-authdaemon's settings after some recent security updates?  it looks like /etc/courier/authdaemonrc got clobbered
[02:31] <Lars_G> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=377813
[02:31] <jonmasters> flush out /tmp, reboot, try it all again.
[02:31] <Lars_G> eh here is my trouble it seems
[02:31] <Bofia> can ubuntu use logical partition as swap partitions?
[02:31] <crimsun> medication: I am not at all familiar with RH's kernel
[02:31] <medication> i have a clustered box at work that has 95% of its mem taken by nothing
[02:31] <maney> Bofia: sure
[02:31] <medication> jonmasters, was that for me?
[02:31] <crimsun> medication: that's all cached, nothing to worry about. It's normal.
[02:32] <jonmasters> no :-)
[02:32] <medication> thanks..
[02:32] <medication> crimsun, it's still technically available then?
[02:32] <crimsun> medication: yes. When applications request memory, the memory will be reclaimed.
[02:32] <NewWithoutClue> jonmasters, it's done...no apparent errors. Maybe i should mention i'm using GDM to login into KDE and the crash ( recent ) happened on KDE
[02:32] <medication> cheers thanks
[02:33] <ProN00b> can i somehow request something to be put on apt-get ?
[02:33] <jonmasters> In that case, I can't help you. I don't do KDE :-)
[02:33] <foxiness> what is the best typing program "to touch you typing"
[02:33] <NewWithoutClue> jonmasters, alright
[02:33] <NewWithoutClue> jonmasters, any ideas on where to start looking to help myself?
[02:34] <jonmasters> Jon: It's the only way to make you chirp up :-)
[02:34] <jonmasters> Ask Riddell. I know where he lives.
[02:34] <jonmasters> :-)
[02:34] <NewWithoutClue> jonmasters, thanks...i'm off for now.
[02:34] <jonmasters> Bah. It doesn't work and he's using KDE. I ask you.
[02:35] <Razor-X> ProN00b: you'll have to ask the maintainers for that
[02:35] <CrackersKeenan> does anyone know how to do shell programming?  like foreach loops in particular?
[02:35] <Razor-X> ProN00b: or you can compile it yourself
[02:35] <okiaro> i have just install ubuntu and my monitor complains that it 'cant display mode' ... what can i do?
[02:35] <Razor-X> CrackersKeenan: there are tons of online tutorials for BASH
[02:35] <CrackersKeenan> ok Razor-X
[02:35] <jonmasters> CrackersKeenan: You mean for i in *; do blah; done?
[02:35] <CrackersKeenan> any good ones in particular Razor-X?
[02:35] <Razor-X> just google it
[02:36] <jonmasters> CrackersKeenan: Try reading Beginning Linux Programming. It's good.
[02:36] <Razor-X> I use the first one sometimes for reference (pretty much the first google hit, I mean)
[02:36] <CrackersKeenan> yep jobmasters, in ksh you can just go "foreach file (*)"
[02:36] <Razor-X> but then again, I use zsh, so those don't help me all that much
[02:36] <jonmasters> True. You can in ksh, I assumed bash.
[02:37] <blank> should I get php4-mysql or php5-mysql
[02:37] <jonmasters> Ya know, I once wrote a shell that I used for 10 minutes. Then I realised I'd never be happy and just stuck with csh/bash.
[02:37] <Razor-X> csh, ewwww!
[02:37] <jonmasters> Razor-X: old SunOS.
[02:37] <Razor-X> csh is nasty nasty stuff
[02:37] <CrackersKeenan> will docheers jonmasters
[02:37] <Razor-X> jonmasters: even still *scoffs*
[02:37] <jonmasters> Razor-X: old SunOS.
[02:37] <jonmasters> Before sunfreeware took away the pain so much.
[02:37] <Razor-X> :)
[02:38] <blank> should i get php4-mysql or php5-mysql
[02:38] <Razor-X> I don't know how any sane person could use csh or tcsh, but I guess that's just me
[02:38] <jonmasters> Now, it's easy. Every Sun comes with GNOME and bash. But for years you had to spend 20 minutes fixing a machine after installing just to be able to login sanely...
[02:38] <CrackersKeenan> ok jonmasters.  hey in particular do you mind telling me the syntax for incrementing i in bash?
[02:38] <Razor-X> blank: well, that depends on the PHP you have
[02:38] <jonmasters> blank: php4 unless you want to go for the pain.
[02:39] <funkyHat> where does smeg store it's information?
[02:39] <funkyHat> *preferences
[02:39] <Razor-X> jonmasters: I have met very few things more painful than tcsh or using vi controls on a Dvorak keyboard :)
[02:39] <stuNNed> crimsun, is captive part of ubuntu or do i need to add a repo or just install a .deb?
[02:39] <Lars_G> Is the v4l in breezy broken somehow?
[02:39] <jonmasters> CrackersKeenan: i=$(($i+1)).
[02:39] <blank> okay
[02:39] <foxiness> is there nice typing program ?
[02:39] <CrackersKeenan> jonmasters: cheers mate
[02:40] <blank> do i need a plugin for amorok to play mp3s?
[02:40] <crimsun> stuNNed: you need to compile it yourself
[02:40] <Juhaz> funkyHat, the (modificatios to) menus? ~/.local, ~/.config
[02:40] <crimsun> blank: gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:40] <stuNNed> crimsun, thanks
[02:40] <jonmasters> Riddell: See sladen online recently? He's in Montreal, this I know, but seen him online?
[02:41] <apollo> i was wondering if there is any dock or launcher program to make icons on the desktop in blackbox or enlightenment
[02:41] <apollo> ?
[02:41] <funkyHat> thanks Juhaz
[02:41] <Razor-X> apollo: i'm pretty sure you have to configure Blackbox stuff by hand
[02:41] <funkyHat> Juhaz, will it hurt to delete those 2 directories (i know i will lose other settings as well, but will it break things?)
[02:41] <blank> thank
[02:41] <blank> s
[02:42] <Juhaz> funkyHat, shouldn't break anything, and the only other settings I can remember of that live there are file associations
[02:42] <jonmasters> Anyone still in Montreal?
[02:42] <Razor-X> jonmasters: what terminal emulator you use?
[02:42] <funkyHat> ok. thanks :)
[02:42] <jonmasters> Razor-X: I'm a big gnome-terminal weenie.
[02:42] <blank> i ment so that amorok to play mp3s
[02:42] <Razor-X> jonmasters: :)
[02:42] <blank> how can i make amorok play mp3
[02:43] <Razor-X> jonmasters: I was asking because urxvt (and XTerm also, I think) refuses to copy text to clipboard, just primary
[02:43] <jonmasters> Razor-X: This I know... :-)
[02:43] <Razor-X> jonmasters: awesome
[02:43] <dabaR> blank: ask #kubuntu
[02:43] <Razor-X> I use a fix, but it's a pretty slight hack
[02:43] <Razor-X> I have a script I made that uses xsel to clear the clipboard and put the contents of primary into the clipboard, and then bound it to C-t C-c in ratpoison
[02:44] <jonmasters> Ok. It's managed to get to 01:43 again. It likes doing that.
[02:44] <Razor-X> I just don't want to have to live with that extra keystroke :)
[02:44] <jonmasters> [gone] 
[02:45] <ubuntu_> hallo
[02:46] <sidizen> lelol
[02:46] <Razor-X> .... lelol?
[02:46] <ubuntu_> I need some help on ubuntu LiveCD
[02:46] <Madpilot> ubuntu: please just ask your question
[02:46] <ecobuntu> ubuntu: and be more specific
[02:46] <ubuntu_> I want to access my hd, how am I going to do that?
[02:47] <Razor-X> ubuntu_: what FS is it?
[02:47] <NewWithoutClue> how would i switch what starts for login ( it's currently GDM, i want it to be KDM )
[02:47] <ubuntu_> tmy HD is nowhere to be found in the liveCD version 5.10 desktop screen
[02:48] <LjL> NewWithoutClue: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:48] <slew> how do i get the num lock to lock when ubuntu starts up?
[02:48] <ubuntu_> FS?
[02:48] <slew> ubuntu_, file system
[02:48] <Razor-X> ubuntu_: file system
[02:48] <slew> ubuntu_, windows ntfs or windows fat32?
[02:48] <Razor-X> ubuntu_: FAT, NTFS, HFS, etc.
[02:49] <ubuntu_> NFFS winXP
[02:49] <LjL> ubuntu: try "sudo mount /dev/hdXXX /mnt/somewhere", where hdXX is you hard drive (possibly hda1), and "somewhere" is a directory that exists in /mnt
[02:49] <ubuntu_> NTFS
[02:49] <Razor-X> ubuntu_: mmmkay
[02:49] <LjL> ubuntu_ i can't be very specific about the "somewhere" 'cause i don't know the live CD
[02:49] <LjL> ubuntu_: but, basically, any empty directory wil work file
[02:50] <slew> i dont think i had this problem when i tried ubuntu live..
[02:50] <VonGuard> once agian
[02:50] <VonGuard> THANK YOU
[02:51] <NewWithoutClue> LjL, thanks
[02:54] <vvarsendagger> hey i need to know how to find out what useres and what passwords i have on my ubuntu box?
[02:54] <foampeace> how do i reconfigure the X server
[02:54] <Riddell> vvarsendagger: cat /etc/passwd
[02:55] <vvarsendagger> now how do i login if i don't have a username?
[02:55] <vvarsendagger> --- running off a live disk right now
[02:55] <Ep|phany> i created a pass protected network but now when i go to network servers then windows network theres nothing in there
[02:55] <Ep|phany> does anyone know whats goin gon?
[02:56] <vvarsendagger> Riddell, thanks
[02:56] <ubuntu_> I've try 'system' - 'administration' - 'disk' then hi-lite the hd, and enable it, no reponse, still unable to access the content in the HD
[02:57] <kvidell> How do I get totem to either use my new graphics driver, or stop caring about Mozilla?
[02:57] <ubuntu_> in the partitions, it detected 2 patitions correctly, but couldn't react to enable and wouldn't let me access the files
[02:57] <LjL> ubuntu_: have you tried just sudo mount /dev/hda1 /somewhere?
[02:57] <kvidell> Everytime I try to run totem it segfaults, this occurs when a plugin is needed for like a .mov
[02:58] <kvidell> I'd like it if it just stopped trying to care and let mplayer take over
[02:58] <Ep|phany> can anyone helpme?
[02:58] <Mabus06> is it possible to run azureus with ubuntu without using a wine-like program?
[02:58] <ubuntu_> how do I access sudo?
[02:58] <kvidell> Mabus06: azureus will run native on any platform java can run on, so yes.
[02:59] <Mabus06> ah, I didn't know it was java, kvidell.. I just had a windows-using friend who reccomended it
[02:59] <kvidell> ah, yea.. it's good stuff
[02:59] <mustard5> foampeace, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , iirc
[02:59] <ian> Where can I find the i686 image? The ubuntu download page only has i386.
[03:00] <Mabus06> bittorrent gives me ridiculously slow downloads, every time
[03:00] <Mabus06> every place I saw that had i386 had i686, ian
[03:00] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Can someone explain cfdisk to me
[03:00] <ian> Mabus06 Limk?
[03:00] <dylan_> is gnome or kde faster?
[03:00] <ian> Link
[03:01] <Blippe> dylan_ both... :P
[03:01] <Razor-X> dylan_: hard to say
[03:01] <LjL> dylan_: i feel kde is a bit faster ,but it's a feeling
[03:01] <Razor-X> they're both molasses :)
[03:02] <Mabus06> ian I'm quite sure I found it off the main ubuntu page
[03:02] <foampeace> whats exact 256k
[03:02] <foampeace> 256000
[03:02] <foampeace> not
[03:02] <ian> Mabus06 Well it aint there now, unless anybody would care to prove me wrong.
[03:02] <Blippe> foampeace 256*1024
[03:02] <mustard5> ian, I'll take that challenge :)
[03:03] <ubuntu_> LjL, how do I access the sudo youare were talking about?
[03:03] <foampeace> Blippe: thanks is that good for configuring the xserver?
[03:03] <LjL> ubuntu_: open a terminal, and type sudo etc
[03:03] <_jason> 2^18
[03:03] <mustard5> ian, what version you looking for?
[03:04] <LjL> ubuntu: specifically, i think it's main menu / systems / console, or something, to open a terminal
[03:04] <ian> mustard5 i686 - which is not the same as 64-Bit right?
[03:04] <mustard5> ian, install 386 and then upgrade the kernel using synaptic
[03:05] <mustard5> ian, I take it i686 and 686 are the same?
[03:05] <sklav> Im back
[03:05] <sklav> got amarok to work
[03:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> mustard5: i686 are referring to the recent pentium processors
[03:05] <_Dez> !glftpd
[03:06] <ubotu> _Dez: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:06] <chris-x> hey, im using suspend2 successfully. Now I want to get my sound working after resume. Is there anyone who can tell me which modules I would have to unload and where to write it? I mean, which modules of the list that hibernate --bug-report tells me are being loaded?
[03:06] <_Dez> :(
[03:06] <_Dez> anyone know alot about glftpd
[03:06] <voth> is it possible to set *.avi, *.mp* to open with a specific application instead of totem by default?
[03:06] <sklav> yes
[03:06] <sklav> rigth click on an mp* and select the app you want to associate
[03:06] <sorush20> guys does this mean I can connect using the phone line and the cable tv line?
[03:06] <sorush20> Linksys Wireless G 54Mbps Cable/DSL Router
[03:06] <mustard5> Biscuitian_Warhe, ah ok...so a 686 kernel is what he is after then?
[03:06] <ian> mustard5 I guess so. I just find it strange that the install CD does not give you the option. Especially considering most ubuntu users will probably be using the recent generation of Pentium processors.
[03:06] <sorush20> http://ecoustics.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=665967
[03:06] <Blippe> aint i686 pentium pro?
[03:07] <Biscuitian_Warhe> mustard5:I suppose so
[03:07] <voth> sklav, looking for a system wide solution
[03:07] <mustard5> ian, I imagine it is so that it all comes on one CD instead of many
[03:07] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Blippe: It is
[03:08] <mustard5> ian, default install is 386 and I have then installed my 686 kernel via synaptic
[03:08] <sklav> hum if you modify the file and copy it into everyones folder it should work
[03:08] <sklav> also put into /etc/skel
[03:08] <sklav> for future users
[03:08] <mustard5> ian, although I should have installed k7 for amd instead ;)
[03:08] <n0odl3> how do i play midis?
[03:08] <pramod> hi everyone :-)
[03:08] <n0odl3> what do i use to play them?
[03:08] <ian> mustard5: Do you play around using i386 for a while first? Notice much of a difference in performance afterthe upgrade?
[03:08] <funkyHat> i'm trying to resize an ntfs partition (hda1) using gparted, but every time i click Apply, it does it with no complaints, but then after re-reading the table it hasn't changed
[03:09] <voth> have there been any improvements to wine over the past year or so?
[03:09] <Juhaz> Blippe, yeah, ppro and up. p2, p3, p4, athlons are all i686
[03:09] <sumojim> Does anyone know how to set  a filepath?
[03:09] <mustard5> ian, I don't notice much difference but its feels nice to be using a kernel specific the processor
[03:09] <zdennis_> hello everyone
[03:09] <voth> ppro is a i686, oh gawd
[03:09] <funkyHat> anyone know why?
[03:09] <sklav> ppro is i586
[03:10] <zdennis_> I am trying to get my sister-in-law's computer (which has ubuntu on it now) to work with dialup. they live out in the country
[03:10] <zdennis_> It recognizes the modem in the device manager
[03:10] <zdennis_> but i can't get it to work
[03:10] <Blippe> old good pentium (I / Vanilla) is i586
[03:10] <Biscuitian_Warhe> PPro is i686, As the Wiki tells me so.
[03:10] <ian> During the Breezy install I chose to reformat the hard drive and create new partitions - I was then prompted to choose between IDE Master HDA1 or LVM IDE Master HDA1, What is the difference
[03:10] <n0odl3> does anyone know what to use to play midis
[03:10] <sklav> zdennis_, is it a winmodem?
[03:10] <mustard5> zdennis_, what type of modem?
[03:10] <ubuntu_> LjL, is there a way for me just view the content on the HDA instead of specific parameter within the HDA?
[03:10] <sumojim> I am attempting to install Eclipse to write java and I need to set the filepath but I don't know how. Can anyone help me?
[03:10] <bobx86> funkyHat - do you reboot after writing to the partition table?
[03:10] <zdennis_> it is  a Digicom ES2898 modem
[03:11] <funkyHat> ooh... nope :)
[03:11] <zdennis_> it is connected via a PCI slot
[03:11] <voth> damn math co-processor in those things were just awful.
[03:11] <Biscuitian_Warhe> zdennis_:Its probally a winmodem
[03:11] <zdennis_> i have never messed with modems' in linux before
[03:11] <LjL> ubuntu_: uh? specific parameter?
[03:11] <zdennis_> i have always had highspeed network connections
[03:11] <funkyHat> bobx86, i'll try that now
[03:11] <Biscuitian_Warhe> zdennis_: There a real pain in the rear
[03:11] <stuNNed> crimsun, i found a repo for captive, should i still install from source?
[03:11] <ubuntu_> I just want to view my HDA content in general
[03:11] <zdennis_> i am at linmodems.org
[03:11] <n0odl3> does anyone know?
[03:11] <sklav> if running kde u can try kmidi
[03:11] <zdennis_> that sound lke the place to start looking?
[03:12] <n0odl3> sklav: im not using kde though
[03:12] <LjL> ubuntu_: yeah, i've understood that... why do you think i was telling you something else?
[03:12] <mustard5> ubotu, tell zdennis_ about windmodem
[03:12] <n0odl3> sklav: do you know of another alternative
[03:12] <mustard5> zdennis_, yep
[03:12] <ubuntu_> but the command line in terminal specific the require of input
[03:12] <zdennis_> mustard it didn't work..ubotu didn't message m =(
[03:12] <crimsun> stuNNed: a repo may not be specifically for your Ubuntu install
[03:12] <mustard5> zdennis_, http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[03:12] <sklav> 1 sec im looking
[03:13] <stuNNed> crimsun, ok i'll go with the source!
[03:13] <zdennis_> thx mustard5 , am looking at now
[03:13] <mustard5> zdennis_, thats all that is in the message from ubout
[03:13] <mustard5> ubotu
[03:13] <mustard5> k
[03:13] <ian> After first logging into a newly built Breezy box automatic update tell me there are several new updates available. When I attempt to install the updates I get a warning stating that the packages cant be authenticed. Why is that? I'm only using the default repositories.
[03:13] <n0odl3> does anyone know any alternatives to listening to midis other than kmidi?
[03:13] <ubuntu_> here is what I got ;;;mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[03:14] <mustard5> ian, the gpk keys probably failed to download
[03:14] <ian> mustard5 - Resolution?
[03:14] <sklav> have you looked into alsa?
[03:14] <mustard5> ian, try closing synaptic and entering this in terminal sudo apt-get update
[03:14] <Blippe> I'm thinking of buying a usb-wlan-dongle... which ones works with linux?
[03:14] <ian> k
[03:14] <sklav> alsa-mixer is supposedly able to play
[03:14] <LjL> ubuntu_: then do "mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /something" intead of what i told you before
[03:14] <mustard5> ian, if you see gpg errors still then I have another step you can try
[03:14] <sorush20> is access point the same as modem,
[03:14] <sorush20> I'm looking for a modem router wireless I can't find any?
[03:15] <Ron_o> sorry for such simple questions, but I'll explain later. How does one get root with ubuntu?
[03:15] <Ron_o> I'm in terminal now.
[03:15] <mustard5> ian, tell me how it goes anyway
[03:15] <LjL> ron_o: "sudo -i"
[03:15] <ian> mustard5: I tried "Reloading" the package update from the auto update menu and it worked this time!
[03:15] <sumojim> h
[03:15] <Ron_o> thanks LjL
[03:15] <mustard5> Ron_o, ubuntu uses sudo
[03:15] <ian> if that makes sense.
[03:15] <mustard5> ian, yeah, its a bit flaky sometimes
[03:16] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Ron_o about rootsudo
[03:16] <ian> ok upgrading to i686 wish me luck.
[03:16] <Mabus06> if you use expert install you can set a root password..
[03:16] <mustard5> ian, which package name did you choose?
[03:17] <mustard5> ian, the metapackage linux-686?
[03:17] <Ron_o> I'm on a livecd..
[03:17] <Ron_o> is there a worry about intrusions?
[03:17] <Mabus06> What's the point of live anyway?
[03:17] <sklav> ok try playmidi
[03:17] <sklav> i did a search on synaptic and it showed up
[03:17] <aitiba69> how can I modify menus on gnome 2.12?
[03:17] <LjL> Mabus06: the docs advise against setting a root password, and anyway i don't quite see what's gained by setting one
[03:17] <ian> mustard5: Actually I'm just flicking through the wiki trying to figure out what I should install ;-)
[03:18] <_Dez> how do i kill glftpd
[03:18] <ian> mustard5: Can you point me in the right direction?
[03:18] <LjL> _Dez: killall glftpd, i suppose
[03:18] <Mabus06> some people who are more used to other distros dislike their being no root password setting
[03:18] <sklav> voth, try playmidi it is avail threw synaptic
[03:18] <mustard5> ian, if you choose the metapackage linux-686 it will automatically select the restricted-modules and other relevant packages
[03:18] <agtnz> ls
[03:18] <ubuntu_> what is sudo mean anyway?
[03:18] <agtnz> haha
[03:19] <agtnz> ahem
[03:19] <Mabus06> super user do
[03:19] <Blippe> super user do
[03:19] <mustard5> ian, you got nvidia graphics card?
[03:19] <ubuntu_> ah
[03:19] <sklav> its in the universe repo
[03:19] <LjL> Mabus06: just tell them they can "sudo -i", there's really no difference. that's unless they don't like their own password being used as a root password, but then, they can create a second user and use that one as their "normal" account, if they prefer
[03:19] <Ron_o> mayber their should be a sudoNOT..
[03:19] <ian> mustard5: Nope just a cheapy integrated Intel controller.
[03:19] <Ron_o> or studoNOT..
[03:20] <Ron_o> sudo for stupid people.
[03:20] <mustard5> ian, hmm k... well you probably won't need the restricted modules then
[03:20] <funkyHat> bobx86, yeah, i restarted. no luck
[03:20] <crimsun> ian: linux-686 is sufficient
[03:20] <crimsun> ian: if you're referring to the kernel
[03:20] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Can ubuntu install on Fat32?
[03:20] <mustard5> ian, go with selecting linux-686 as crimsun has said
[03:20] <ubuntu_> I still left without HD accesible
[03:20] <ian> ok
[03:21] <ian> back soon to let you know how it went.
[03:21] <mustard5> ian, k
[03:22] <ubuntu_> Is thee a way to access NTFS HD contents within clicks?
[03:22] <Ron_o> Biscuitian_Warhe, why do you need ubuntu to be installed on FAT32?
[03:22] <zdennis_> ok, it looks like the modem here is screwed
[03:22] <mustard5> ubuntu, you can read them, but not write to them
[03:22] <LjL> ubuntu_: i thought it would be done automatically, but apparently at least in your case it isn't. have you tried the last command i told you?
[03:23] <misfit_toy> nice little backup utility, GUI, very simple, now included in repos..."sbackup"
[03:23] <zdennis_> anyone here have a modem that they know works well with linux and you dont ahve to bend over backwards to get it to work?
[03:23] <LjL> ubuntu: yeah, mustard5 is right, by the way
[03:23] <mustard5> ubuntu, they would need to be set up in your fstab file and there is a script to do that automatically
[03:23] <nemik> hello, can someone help me make the "irc" protocol launch x-chat in mozilla?
[03:23] <ubuntu_> LjL, I did, nothing happen
[03:23] <nemik> i tried addint it to about:config but nothing
[03:23] <LjL> ubuntu_: that usually means it worked, you know
[03:23] <LjL> ubuntu_: try "sudo nautilus /something", where "/something" is the same directory as before
[03:23] <ubuntu_> I am still left without a HD..
[03:23] <mustard5> LjL, has he rusn the automount script?
[03:24] <ubuntu_> mustard, auto mount?
[03:24] <LjL> mustard5: have no idea what the automount script even is
[03:24] <Blippe> how do i umnount ALL harddrives after startup?
[03:24] <LjL> mustard5: i've just been telling him to mount it the good old way, with mount and stuff
[03:24] <zdennis_> Blippe: sudo umount -a      ?
[03:25] <LjL> Blippe: i suppose "umount -a" would do, depending on what you need
[03:25] <mustard5> ubuntu_, there is a script I can give you a link to that will automount your windows drives and make the correct fstab entries so that it does it at bootup..I'm just finding the link
[03:25] <Blippe> of course...
[03:25] <Mabus06> mustard5, is there a way to install windows without having to reinstall ubuntu?
[03:25] <Ron_o> Biscuitian_Warhe, I don't believe Linux can be installed on FAT32
[03:25] <mustard5> ubuntu_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:25] <LjL> mustard5: but he was using a live cd wasn't he?
[03:25] <ubuntu_> yes, I am in the liveCD
[03:25] <mustard5> Mabus06, I am not certain about that...I would think not easily or not at all
[03:26] <mustard5> LjL, doh
[03:26] <mustard5> ubuntu_, hehe ok..forget what I said then :)
[03:26] <LjL> ubuntu_: what happens with sudo nautilus /something?
[03:26] <mustard5> ubuntu_, I thought we were talking about a full install :)
[03:26] <Mabus06> mustard5, I couldn't reformat my /home partition without touching the ubuntu one?
[03:26] <ubuntu_> let me try again
[03:27] <mustard5> Mabus06, your confusing me now...what is in your /home partition?  isnt that in linux?
[03:27] <ubuntu_> Get this:  (nautilus:22175): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:27] <nemik> hello, can someone help me make the "irc" protocol launch x-chat in mozilla?
[03:27] <LjL> ubuntu_: right, i forgot about that. type "xhost +" and then do the sudo nautilus thing again
[03:28] <mustard5> Mabus06, what I have heard is that windows just grabs all the partitions and takes over the machine
[03:28] <Mabus06> yes, mustard5.. but isn't the actual OS installed on the other one?
[03:28] <mustard5> Mabus06, like virus ;)
[03:28] <mustard5> hehe
[03:28] <Mabus06> ah
[03:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Can you convet an NTFS drive to a Fat32 without formating the drive
[03:29] <watnou> later
[03:29] <ompaul> nemik, first time you click on it it should try to say choose a program and away you go as to xchat taking the vars from the web page that might be a lot harder you may have to look at the scripting that can be done
[03:29] <mustard5> Mabus06, because windows won't play nice, it will be necessary to reinstall ubuntu, but you might be right...maybe you can tell windows to not format the /home partion
[03:30] <ubuntu_> samething
[03:30] <funkyHat> ok that ntfs partition still won't resize
[03:30] <mustard5> Mabus06, I have no idea really, not having windows on my system
[03:30] <edross> Ok - Never been on a irc chat before - can we just ask a question here?
[03:30] <ompaul> Biscuitian_Warhe, that is a windows question, however I belive that the answer is now
[03:30] <ishP> hi all
[03:30] <ubuntu_> cannot open display
[03:30] <ompaul> no*
[03:30] <nemik> ompaul, thanks for the reply. i see no such option to choose a program, just says: "irc is not a registered protocol"
[03:30] <funkyHat> can anyone help me with resizing ntfs partitions?
[03:30] <ishP> pips, anyone who has HSFi (chip-Cx11252-11)
[03:30] <ishP> modem
[03:30] <LjL> ubuntu: uh... did it output "access control disabled, clients can connect from any host" after you typed "xhost +"  ?
[03:30] <ian> mustard5: Ok so far. just rebooted for good measure. Thanks for your help
[03:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> funkyHat: Just use Knoppix, QTParted usually does the trick
[03:30] <ompaul> nemik, give me a web page with an irc channel mentioned on it please
[03:30] <LjL> ubuntu_: otherwise, try "export DISPLAY=:0" and then nautilus again...
[03:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> ishP: The infamouse Linuxant modem?
[03:30] <mustard5> ian, rebooting is the way good work :)
[03:31] <Mabus06> Rebooting solves the problem on windows often.... not so much in linux.
[03:31] <ion> hi guys I got problem to install cd burner and another things there is somoane that can help me ?
[03:31] <nemik> ompaul: irc://irc.zirc.org/ess
[03:31] <ishP> i mean driver
[03:31] <funkyHat> Biscuitian_Warhe, i don't see why that will be any better than gparted on the ubuntu live CD
[03:31] <Ep|phany> i created a home network but when i go network servers --> windows network nothing happens
[03:31] <ubuntu_> no, it gave me : unable to open display
[03:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> funkyHat: Knoppix comes with Ntfsprogs, and other filesystem utilities like that
[03:31] <sklav> funkyHat, do you have 1 HDD?
[03:31] <funkyHat> yes
[03:31] <Ep|phany> anyone have any ideas?
[03:31] <mustard5> My USB drive using a USB hub is not mounting at bootup need help :)
[03:31] <sklav> maybe that is your problem
[03:31] <LjL> ubuntu: the "xhost +" told you it was unable to open display?!
[03:32] <edross> I'm fairly new to linux and very new to ubunto, but when I run eclipse from the command line, all is fine, when I click on the icon everything is messed up.  This seems to be true with a number of applications I installed by just un-tarring.
[03:32] <LjL> ubuntu_: you did *not* have to prefix that with sudo, mind you
[03:32] <ion> like gnomebaker
[03:32] <funkyHat> Biscuitian_Warhe, so does the ubuntu live CD
[03:32] <ubuntu_> nope, it's root@ubuntu:~#
[03:33] <LjL> ubuntu_: oh, but then you're running as root!
[03:33] <Biscuitian_Warhe> funkyHat: I dunno what to tell you then, im having troubles creating a new extended partition
[03:33] <ion> I can't install them with sudo apt-...
[03:33] <Mabus06> the authentication required to access my widows network... what exactly is that? an administrator windows user account info?
[03:33] <LjL> ubuntu_: did you do "sudo -i" by any chance?    but anyway, open another terminal and make sure the prompt doesn't end with "#"
[03:33] <ompaul> nemik, must only work with file types - go to bugzilla for mozilla and add it as a feature request or do it under the buntu project
[03:33] <funkyHat> Biscuitian_Warhe, not becuase you have more than 4 primary/extended partitions in total?
[03:33] <ian> mustard5: Now I just need to figure out whats up with my sound card. It works ok but it only seems to be able to handle playback of 1 sound file at a time. For example when listening to an Mp3 I wont be able to here instant messenger notifications. They instant messenger notifications are actually buffered and when the mp3 stop they all come blasting out of my speakers. Strange eh?
[03:33] <Biscuitian_Warhe> funkyHat: I have 4 primarys
[03:34] <Philip> anyone here happen to know a bit about samba
[03:34] <Mabus06> lol ian
[03:34] <funkyHat> Biscuitian_Warhe, you won't be able to create an extended partition then
[03:34] <Mabus06> !saba
[03:34] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Mabus06
[03:34] <Ep|phany> philip im also trying to use it
[03:34] <Mabus06> !samba
[03:34] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:34] <Biscuitian_Warhe> funkyHat: Shoot
[03:34] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Lol
[03:34] <Philip> Ep|phany, you having issues with it from an XP machine as well ?
[03:34] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I guess, I guess I could take down OSx86 and make it bigger....
[03:34] <ion> I know I have to use root terminal ..
[03:34] <mustard5> ian, try going to System>>Preferences>>Multimedia selector and setting both to ALSA
[03:34] <eliezer> http://www.geocities.com/sunnylug/win_partition_from_lin.html <- SHARING HARD DRIVES BETWEEN LINUX AND WINDOWS
[03:35] <ion> ?
[03:35] <funkyHat> Biscuitian_Warhe, if you can temporarily erase one of your primarys, you could create an extended partition that takes up the rest of the drive, and put as many logical drives in that as you want
[03:35] <ian> mustard5: if this works I deffinetly owe you a beer.
[03:35] <Biscuitian_Warhe> funkyHat: Now which one to kill.. lol
[03:35] <blank> how do I install icon sets, gdm pics, and splash screens?
[03:35] <mustard5> ian, I'm hopeful :)
[03:35] <funkyHat> well the one next to the empty space would be the most sensible :)
[03:35] <Philip> Thankyou eliezer, i'll have a read of it right now :)
[03:35] <Biscuitian_Warhe> So me mac system
[03:36] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Lol
[03:36] <eliezer> anytime philip, hope it works. :)
[03:36] <ubuntu_> what is this mean? access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
[03:36] <Biscuitian_Warhe> So let me get this straight, a logical partition is inside an extended one?
[03:36] <eliezer> i gtg, see you around.
[03:36] <ubuntu_> when I input xhost +
[03:36] <LjL> ubuntu_: the complete process is: 1) get to a *non-root* terminal, i.e. one where the prompt ends with '$'   2) type "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /something"    3) type "xhost +"    4) type "sudo nautilus /something"
[03:36] <funkyHat> Biscuitian_Warhe, yes
[03:37] <mustard5> ian, if you ever download skype btw, it won't play with anything nicely with regards to sound. I'm forced to shut down other sound devices when using skype
[03:37] <Biscuitian_Warhe> funkyHat: Alrite
[03:37] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Thanks
[03:37] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Im gonna try this
[03:37] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Lol
[03:37] <funkyHat> ok :)
[03:37] <blank> where can I go to install gdm themes
[03:37] <blank> and splashscreens
[03:37] <blank> and icon sets
[03:37] <Philip> eliezer, unfortunately its not for a partition
[03:37] <LjL> ubuntu_: it means people might make windows appear on your desktop. it's a bit of a security risk, but i don't think it's really a big risk at all. anyway, it's the only way i know to see NTFS drives in Nautilus
[03:37] <Biscuitian_Warhe> blank: Open up the Themes App from theSettings or whereever menu
[03:37] <Philip> its on two seperate computers
[03:37] <ian> mustard5: Looks like you might have to work a litte hardard for that beer ;-). Set the first option to ALSA and tested - worked ok. Set the second option to ALSA and tested - and it hung.
[03:38] <funkyHat> blank, icon sets is in system > preferences > themes
[03:38] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Then, drag the tar.gz into the window, it shold then install
[03:38] <ion> sorry guys I had been away
[03:38] <ian> killing the process now
[03:38] <funkyHat> blank, gdm themes is system > administration > login screen setup > themed greeter tab
[03:38] <ion> so how what I have to do then
[03:38] <blank> for icon sets, you install it like a theme?
[03:38] <mustard5> ian, my guess is its esd in the background that is causing the issue, probably related to the System>>Sound preferences that have sound server enabled
[03:39] <blank> funkyhat: I dont have login screen setup :(
[03:39] <blank> oh nvm
[03:39] <mustard5> ian, killing esd may fix things
[03:39] <LjL> ubuntu_: the problem is that you need to run Nautilus as root to see your NTFS disk, but your X server only accepts connections from *your own* user, and not root. the way to make it accept connections from all is "xhost +"; certainly there are ways to fine-grain the access levels, but i've never gone into that
[03:39] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Oh this Windows bastard, im tryingto d/l my mac partition, and it claimes it's important to my system
[03:39] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Lol
[03:39] <ion> what do you mean ?
[03:40] <ubuntu_> I got this : access control enabled, only authorized clients can connect
[03:40] <ian> mustard5 How do you kill esd? Its just a process?
[03:40] <LjL> ubuntu: but then you did "xhost -", not "xhost +"?!
[03:41] <mustard5> ian, killall esd seems to work for me  or use the system monitor in the Applications>>System tools
[03:41] <ion> there is somebody which can help me please ?
[03:41] <zhangjintu> something is wrong with my openoffice2 Impress!
[03:42] <ubuntu_> it's xhost =
[03:42] <ubuntu_> xhost +
[03:42] <zhangjintu> when I open the ms ppt file ,it shut down automatic.
[03:42] <blank> I install icon sets just like I'd install a theme?
[03:42] <ion> I hac struggling several weeks with this
[03:42] <funkyHat> ion type killall esd in a terminal window
[03:42] <blank> how can I install a splash screen
[03:42] <mustard5> ian, I have sound server disabled on my machine so I get no sounds at gdm login and stuff
[03:42] <ubuntu_> then I did as you instruct sudo nautilus
[03:42] <blank> how may I install a splash screen
[03:42] <freddy> i have a problem...i fought a lot to install my wifi card on this laptop, so i dont know if i upgrade...am i going to fux up the functioning of it? thanks.
[03:42] <zhangjintu> can anybody help me?
[03:43] <ian> mustard5 esd = sound server?
[03:43] <LjL> ubuntu_: what is 100% weird is that it says access control *enabled* and not disabled with "xhost +"
[03:43] <ubuntu_> I  finally got the 'root - file browser' open..but still no HD inthere.
[03:43] <blank> nvm i see
[03:43] <mustard5> ian, I think its actually that sound server uses esd
[03:43] <mustard5> ian, I'm not really sure
[03:43] <freddy> yeah...i want to stop seeing the letters coming up when i turn on the computer...anyway to add a picture or something to that? thanks
[03:44] <mustard5> ian, you could be right
[03:44] <funkyHat> ion, sorry got confused, i didn't mean you (i think :S)
[03:44] <LjL> ubuntu_: hmm two questions: 1) the "sudo mount ....." thing told you *nothing* after you run it, did it?    2) are you sure the "/something" that you're passing to nautilus is the same "/something" you used for mount?
[03:44] <ian> mustard5 ok i'll have a play around with the setting. You put me on the right track. Thanks pal.
[03:44] <ubuntu_> do you think the liveCD 5.10 may be the problem?
[03:44] <ion> its all rigth man...
[03:44] <mustard5> ian, yep fiddling around is the easiest way ;)
[03:44] <LjL> ubuntu_: i'm not sure, never used it, though i don't think it's really the problem
[03:44] <ian> mustard5 If your ever in Singapore drop me a line and i'll buy you that beer.
[03:44] <ubuntu_> yes,
[03:45] <linkd> heh
[03:45] <mustard5> ian hehe ok! :)
[03:45] <ubuntu_> I did repeat what you instructed
[03:45] <LjL> ubuntu_: try "sudo ls /something" and tell me if it lists anything
[03:46] <mustard5> LjL, whats the actual goal in trying to mount the ntfs drive btw?
[03:46] <ubuntu_> Is there a way to pull out the directory content in the HDA 1st?
[03:47] <LjL> ubuntu_: i don't know if you can create users with the LiveCD... but if you want, do "adduser ljl", follow the instructions, choose a password, tell me that password in a query, and i'll try to fix that for you. if you trust me enough and/or you don't have too many personal data, of course
[03:47] <FR500> hello
[03:47] <ubuntu_> I got to thanks in advance for your patience before I forgot
[03:47] <LjL> mustard5: just to access the data, i suppose
[03:47] <FR500> does anyone use a hp scanjet 3770 scanner
[03:47] <mustard5> ubuntu_, what are you hoping to achieve in the end when you mount this drive?
[03:48] <ubuntu_> ok LjL
[03:48] <ubuntu_> how do I do that?
[03:48] <ion> sorry guys to ask again but I need someone else that can help me .....
[03:48] <ubuntu_> I want to access the mp3 files within the HDA
[03:48] <LjL> ubuntu_: no, wait a minute... now that i think of it, the livecd (or even ubuntu proper) doesn't have ssh installed, so we just can't do that
[03:49] <LjL> ubtunu_: tried sudo ls /something?
[03:49] <mustard5> ubuntu_, it seems to me that you would be better off installing ubuntu and setting up your ntfs drives with a script and then downloading mp3 support feel free to carry on though :)
[03:50] <blank> !ubotu tell LjL about enemy territory
[03:50] <blank> hey can you guys give me the link to the enemy territory how to
[03:50] <LjL> ubuntu_: mustard5 does have a point, i don't think you'll even be able to read mp3s with the livecd
[03:50] <mustard5> ion, you might need to repeat the question
[03:50] <LjL> blank: why tell *me* ? :o)
[03:51] <ion> I don't have any media on my ubuntu and cd burner as well
[03:51] <zhangjintu> anybody knows how to open DWG file?
[03:51] <mustard5> blank there is a how to in the forums entitled something like 'counterstrike like game'
[03:51] <meatwad65> ok i'm back
[03:51] <blank> i dont know i guess i like you
[03:51] <LjL> =)
[03:51] <ubuntu_> I try Berry Linux, it has no problem. Except the Berry Linux seems got some sound card bugs. That is why I try ubuntu
[03:51] <blank> no i want the how to comon please someone
[03:51] <blank> :'(
[03:51] <meatwad65> has anyone ever gotten the failed to initialize hal message when you start gnome?
[03:52] <blank> enemy territory how to
[03:52] <ion> I tryed to use sudo apt...but didn't work....
[03:52] <Madpilot> blank: there's an Enemy Territory howto on the wiki... have a look there
[03:52] <LjL> ubuntu_: dunno about berry linux, but ubuntu has this thing that it cannot distribute MP3 codecs for legal reasons. so you have to install them separately. it's very easy to do once ubuntu is installed, but with the livecd... well, don't think it's too easy
[03:52] <mustard5> ubuntu_, running a liveCD gives you limited options though.  Installing ubuntu will give you a better idea of how to do things
[03:53] <Madpilot> blank: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[03:53] <blank> i need the ubuntu wiki , THANKS
[03:53] <zhangjintu> I need to view autodesk DWG file in linux.
[03:53] <ubuntu_> what's the minimal  drive space requirement install the ubuntu
[03:54] <ion> for  example I can't listen music...burn cd..and donwload mp3.....too...
[03:54] <misfit_toy> zhangjintu, search for autodesk at http://freshmeat.net
[03:54] <meatwad65> so nobody knows how to solve the failed to initialize hal problem?
[03:54] <ubuntu_> I've an old HD with about 2 gig..i think
[03:54] <zhangjintu> misfit_toy, thanks.
[03:54] <ubuntu_> corr: 4.o gig
[03:55] <LjL> ubuntu_: i think 2 gig is borderline, i suppose you'd be able to install it, but you wouldn't have much room left
[03:55] <mustard5> ubuntu_, how its going to take up about 2-3 Gb, then you want some freespace
[03:55] <ion> I tryed use apt-sudo install amule but didn't work
[03:55] <mustard5> ubuntu, drop the 'how' from that sentence :)
[03:55] <mustard5> ubuntu_, doh its confusing with an ubuntu and and ubuntu_  in channel
[03:56] <ubuntu_> so, after install the spare drive, I left with little room to backup those MP3 files?
[03:56] <NigelS> ion: if what you mean is that there are certain formats on your computer that you can't play then you should read this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:56] <mustard5> ubuntu_, do you need to repartition your drives?
[03:56] <msg43> Hi
[03:56] <newbie000> OK, I changed my nick
[03:56] <msg43> I'm setting up ndiswrapper and I'm not sure what key type I have
[03:56] <ishP> pips, anyone who has HSFi (chip-Cx11252-11) driver?
[03:57] <mustard5> newbie000, ah that easier :)
[03:57] <msg43> I use 128Wep incryption
[03:57] <pupil>  in the start up script,. I want to enable my wireless connection,. and also let it auto connect to my protected wireless connection,.. how do I do this,. I am using Kubuntu Breezy
[03:57] <pupil> by the way, I had to configure my wireless adapter with ndiswrapper,.
[03:57] <pupil> so I had to use iwlist and iwconfig to configre
[03:57] <pupil> configure
[03:57] <msg43> pupil, which key type did you select?
[03:57] <ion> I went there already I have more problem than that...
[03:57] <superbeast> if i uninstall ubuntu and install slax will my grub screen detect the change?
[03:57] <msg43> I have 128 encryption
[03:58] <pupil> msg43, wep
[03:58] <mustard5> newbie000, have you got any spare partitions set up now?  Repartitioning is always a tricky business :)
[03:58] <newbie000> mustard, I thing the old drive needed to reformat and repartition
[03:58] <pupil> msg43, ohh,. 128, yes
[03:58] <ion> I can't install any media using sudo apt.....
[03:58] <pupil> msg43, I know there is a script to set key and essid etc,. I just don't know what file to edit
[03:58] <mustard5> newbie000, so you have a seperate drive to partition on?
[03:58] <msg43> pupil, I don't hav eopition
[03:58] <mustard5> newbie000, so you have a seperate drive to install on I mean?
[03:59] <msg43> I have ASCII or Hexadecimal
[03:59] <NigelS> ion: well you'll have to be more specific then - what do you mean by "can't install media"?
[03:59] <stuNNed> ok i need help with livecd and captive, crimsun? :)
[03:59] <FR500> does anyone use a hp scanjet 3770 scanner
[03:59] <FR500> can anyone help me to configure it?
[03:59] <pupil> msg43, I use sudo iwconfig wlan0 key s:password
[03:59] <newbie000> yes, this is only auternative..I couldn't risk wipd out my current drive
[03:59] <pupil> so set my password
[03:59] <msg43> pupil, oh
[03:59] <msg43> I'm setting this up for my cousin
[03:59] <Madpilot> FR500: have you looked at the SANE project website?
[03:59] <mustard5> FR500, there is a how to on hp printers on wiki.ubuntu.com I think
[03:59] <FR500> pupil, did you get xine to work well?
[04:00] <msg43> I'm more 1337 to use ubuntu
[04:00] <pupil> FR500, yes I did,.
[04:00] <msg43> though I love it for noobs
[04:00] <pupil> FR500, thank you
[04:00] <FR500> mustard5, it's an scanner :p
[04:00] <FR500> pupil, np
[04:00] <FR500> Madpilot, yes, but it needed an especific backend, i downloaded the drivers but still nothing
[04:00] <ion> ok I haven't do cd burner,amule,limeware and my xmms doesn't work.....
[04:00] <mustard5> FR500, doh  soz...I've got one of those all in one things :)
[04:01] <pupil> msg43, so what file do I edit to set up essid,. key,. and bring up dhclient on wlan0
[04:01] <Ep|phany> does anyone here do home networking?
[04:01] <superbeast> how would i add another os to my grub screen that came with ubuntu anyone?
[04:01] <mustard5> newbie000, yeah, I would be worried about that myself
[04:01] <mustard5> newbie000, if you have a seperate drive that would be excellent
[04:01] <newbie000> which is the best version for installing ubuntu into a 4gig HD? the DVD version or liveCD is fine?
[04:01] <Ep|phany> mustard5 can you help me with accsessing a shared folder over my home network?
[04:01] <ion> and I can use totem cos some plugins is missing...
[04:02] <mustard5> Ep|phany, I have no concept of windows shares sorry :)
[04:02] <Ep|phany> no no
[04:02] <msg43> pupil, I dunno I use archlinux
[04:02] <Ep|phany> its set up fine
[04:02] <msg43> and haven't use wireless int the past 3 months
[04:02] <blackhat> when I try to install DVDShrink (linux version) I get errors saying there are missing dependencies, but I cannot get them through apt-get....
[04:02] <Ep|phany> but when i go to network servers and then windows
[04:02] <blackhat> !dvdshrink
[04:02] <Ep|phany> nothing shows up
[04:02] <ubotu> blackhat: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:03] <davidpelaez> Hello
[04:03] <pupil> msg43, what is archlinux?
[04:03] <tiger> hai
[04:03] <FR500> Ep|phany, accessing the other pcs in the net should be trivial if you can ping them
[04:03] <mustard5> Ep|phany, I don't think I would even know where to begin looking...
[04:03] <NigelS> ion: what you need to do is say what the actual error is - when you sudo apt-get install amule, what error do you get etc? similarly, what error do you have with xmms?
[04:03] <Ep|phany> fr500 what do you mean
[04:03] <blackhat> hai
[04:03] <mustard5> newbie000, the CD version
[04:03] <Ep|phany> im using a router and both pcs are sharing internet accsess
[04:03] <Ep|phany> it was working before
[04:03] <msg43> pupil, its a binary distro. It a bit of slackware and gentoo
[04:03] <davidpelaez> anyone knows how to change de size of programs designed for kde. Amarok or kopete for example. Their appearence is simlar to kde but their fonts are huge, where, how an i change this font sizes???
[04:03] <msg43> it really easy to install
[04:03] <msg43> you do need to know somewhat about linux
[04:03] <mustard5> newbie000, the install CD
[04:03] <ian> Could someone dump the contents of the default sources.list in the paste bin please? I was tinkering with mine and forgot to take a backup. Now Synaptic wont work :-(
[04:04] <pupil> msg43, hmm,. why did you choose to use it?
[04:04] <tiger> hai
[04:04] <mustard5> newbie000, I believe the DVD has both live and install on it
[04:04] <teja> #winehq
[04:04] <msg43> like editing fstab, adding groups, etc...
[04:04] <FR500> Ep|phany, can you ping the other PC?
[04:04] <Ep|phany> how do i do thaT
[04:04] <msg43> pupil, mainly cause I liked gentoo hated the compile times,
[04:04] <newbie000> i see. got to tr download it again
[04:04] <msg43> there no default windows manager
[04:04] <pupil> msg43,  ic
[04:04] <foampeace> i love this os and its gospel...spread the ubuntu gospel and there was this os and man typed it into existence.
[04:04] <msg43> and I install waht I need
[04:04] <FR500> Ep|phany, open a terminal and type ping other_pcs_ip_address
[04:04] <msg43> grr
[04:04] <mustard5> Ep|phany, ping ipaddress in terminal ?
[04:04] <msg43> it doesn't work :(
[04:04] <pupil> msg43, whats cool about gentoo., and have you used ubuntu,. what are the differences?
[04:04] <ion> root@ubuntuemerson:/home/emerson # sudo apt-get install amule
[04:04] <ion> Reading package lists... Done
[04:04] <ion> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:04] <ion> E: Couldn't find package amule
[04:05] <LjL> ion: do you have universe enabled?
[04:05] <Ep|phany> it says 54 bytes of data
[04:05] <davidpelaez> hwo can i change the font size of non gnome apps like amarok so it can fit in my screen???
[04:05] <pupil> ion, /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:05] <Ep|phany> so im assuming it pinged?
[04:05] <mustard5> ion, pasting is not allowed in main channel please read /topic
[04:05] <foampeace> pupil: gentoo is for people who like to tinker with finer elements
[04:05] <NigelS> ion: amule is in the universe repository
[04:05] <pupil> ion, edit that
[04:05] <mustard5> ubotu: tell ion about pastebin
[04:05] <FR500> Ep|phany, response?
[04:05] <NigelS> ion: you need to add that to your sources.list file, either though synaptic or by editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:05] <foampeace> but i must say ubuntu works
[04:06] <foampeace> what can we do for ubuntu
[04:06] <msg43> pupil, well I like arch because you install what you want/need. No default windows manager.
[04:06] <pupil> foampeace, indeed
[04:06] <msg43> and you don't need ot install from source code
[04:06] <NigelS> ion: e.g. deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted multiverse universe
[04:06] <Ep|phany> yea
[04:06] <msg43> it really not an opition
[04:06] <pupil> msg43, you have to complie everthing?
[04:06] <pupil> msg43, does it use debs, or?
[04:06] <newbie000> tkx mustard and LjL... I will try give it a shot a gain with CD install version.
[04:06] <FR500> Ep|phany, then it should appear, otherwise, you probably have a firewall in the window$ pc
[04:07] <ion> hold on guys too much information ....what I have to do first....?
[04:07] <mustard5> Ep|phany, use nicks in front of your answers ;)
[04:07] <jt> can anyone help me with my ftpserver?
[04:07] <msg43> pupil, no you don't
[04:07] <NigelS> msg43: even ubuntu can install in server mode, and distros like debian of course you install only what you want
[04:07] <msg43> and it uses .tar.gz which are kinda like debs
[04:07] <NigelS> ion: just do that one thing, then run sudo apt-get update
[04:07] <pupil> msg43, I know tar.gz that is simply compressoin.
[04:07] <msg43> Nigel15, yeah but ubuntu is to much automatic though I really like it
[04:07] <msg43> and pacman the package manager is kinda like apt but like 100 times better
[04:07] <ion> I did that...several times...
[04:08] <NigelS> msg43: as I say, you could override that, but each to their own I guess :)
[04:08] <pupil> msg43, is that what arch uses,. pacman?
[04:08] <LjL> pupil: slackware's tar.gz isn't simply compression, it's (simple) packages, if that's what you're talking about
[04:08] <mustard5> ion, the pastebin is your friend, paste your errrors in there and show us the URL to the pastebin
[04:08] <NigelS> ion: the package amule is in the ubuntu repositories we're telling you, but it's part of the universe section, so your sources.list is prob not correct
[04:08] <msg43> pupil, yeah but it not the game
[04:09] <davidpelaez> how can i change the font size of kde apps from gnome, i do not have kde installed but some programs seem to be from that wm
[04:09] <davidpelaez> anyone hekping please?
[04:09] <FR500> Ep|phany, you there
[04:09] <Ep|phany> yea
[04:09] <Ep|phany> it was saying it could not accsess MSHOME
[04:09] <Ep|phany> so i made a new domain of HOME
[04:09] <Ep|phany> and im restarting my windows pc right now
[04:09] <Ep|phany> oh shit
[04:09] <Ep|phany> forgot to put your nick in front
[04:10] <Ep|phany> FR500: above was for you
[04:10] <mustard5> Ep|phany, it just helpful and less confusing....thanks
[04:10] <Madpilot> davidpelaez: there's an app called qt-config that'll do that
[04:10] <FR500> Ep|phany, ok, btw, it's not a domain not a workgroup a domain is more complex
[04:10] <Siph0n> hey. neone know where/how i can get arm-linux-gcc???
[04:11] <stuNNed> anyone use captive?
[04:11] <ian> are Multiverse and Backports the same thing?
[04:11] <davidpelaez> thanks
[04:11] <mustard5> ian no
[04:11] <Madpilot> ian: no
[04:11] <adriyel> hi guys
[04:12] <Madpilot> davidpelaez: qt3-config, actually
[04:12] <ian> Ok, could someone give me the link to the Multiverse repository please?
[04:12] <dducko> !repos
[04:12] <ubotu> I guess repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:12] <Madpilot> ian: last URL above ^^^
[04:12] <jt> anyone...ftp help??
[04:12] <Ep|phany> fr500: now when i go network servers it asks me for username domain and password
[04:13] <msg43> were is the wlan config file?
[04:13] <mustard5> jt, you want to ftp or you are setting up an ftp?
[04:13] <Ep|phany> im typing my username and domain but i dont have a password because it was set to simple mode
[04:13] <ian> Madpilt thanks
[04:13] <Ep|phany> but i cant get in
[04:13] <jt> msg43: interfaces
[04:13] <jt> mustard5: server...
[04:13] <jt> mustard5: well i have set it up...but am having problems with it
[04:13] <msg43> jt, would you explain
[04:13] <mustard5> jt, I have no idea then :)
[04:13] <Ep|phany> yay i figured it out
[04:14] <ion> well I gonna use the past bin you guys can see what's going on .....
[04:14] <teja> jt, what ftp server are u trying to set up?
[04:14] <FR500> Ep|phany, hmmm, it doesn't really like empty passwords afaik, can you try to allow guest authentication in your windows lan connection, select your connnection in the M$ pc, and properties, in the authentication tab it should appear
[04:14] <Ep|phany> FR500: i had to type my router user and pass
[04:14] <mustard5> ion, good call
[04:14] <Ep|phany> thanks for the help though
[04:14] <msg43> can anyone help me setup ndiswrapper?
[04:14] <FR500> Ep|phany, np
[04:14] <nicholaspaul> Q: when i'm ssh'ing , do i just need port 22 forwarded?
[04:14] <ion> all right man cheers.....
[04:15] <PukingGeko> HELP! SUDO COMMAND WILL NOT WORK! I GET THE ERROR MESSAGE: "sudo: must be setuid root
[04:15] <PukingGeko> " PLEASE HELP!
[04:15] <mustard5> PukingGeko, turn of caps lock plz
[04:15] <PukingGeko> sorry
[04:15] <mustard5> PukingGeko, try to remain calm
[04:15] <linuxgeek2> !good morning
[04:15] <ubotu> linuxgeek2: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:15] <tomaj> pukinggeko, calm down and dont ask questions like that
[04:15] <NigelS> nicholaspaul: if you're sshing *in* to your private network behind a router you will need to DNAT some port to a local port that your sshd is running on, if that's what you're asking?
[04:16] <PukingGeko> everything's not working now
[04:16] <adriyel> stop confusing ubotu, sheesh :P
[04:16] <nicholaspaul> NigelS, i'm sshing within the network, all LAN
[04:16] <mustard5> PukingGeko, ok explain your circumstance in detail please
[04:16] <adriyel> NigelS, set up boxen to be ssh'ed into under DMZ in router settings?
[04:16] <misfit_toy> hell I'd rather know why he has that nick first, ;)
[04:17] <PukingGeko> whenever I try to run the "sudo" command, i get an error message that says this: "sudo: must be setuid root
[04:17] <PukingGeko> "
[04:17] <adriyel> PukingGeko, have you edited your /etc/sudoers file?
[04:17] <PukingGeko> no
[04:17] <adriyel> curious.
[04:17] <PukingGeko> i've edited /etc/modules though
[04:17] <mustard5> PukingGeko, have you just installed?
[04:17] <PukingGeko> yes
[04:17] <NigelS> nicholaspaul: then you shouldn't need to forward ports yes?
[04:17] <mustard5> PukingGeko, did you use expert install ?
[04:17] <adriyel> mustard5, ? I don't see why this is happening...
[04:17] <PukingGeko> no
[04:17] <adriyel> NigelS, forward port 22, no?
[04:17] <Siph0n> hey. neone know where/how i can get arm-linux-gcc??? :)
[04:17] <Hex1> how do you remove those bloody server links left over in nautilus from "Connect to server" commands?
[04:18] <adriyel> Siph0n, gcc for arm...what has an ARM proccy that you are coding for, may I ask?
[04:18] <NigelS> adriyel: why does he need to forward a port? he's just connecting internally
[04:18] <adriyel> NigelS, wtf? then why can't he connect in an internal LAN?
[04:18] <mustard5> PukingGeko, what have you done since installing that might have caused this?
[04:18] <PukingGeko> installed ndiswrapper
[04:18] <adriyel> mustard5, he said /etc/modules, I don't see the relevancy...ndiswrapper, wireless...yadda yadda.
[04:18] <NigelS> adriyel: he hasn't said he can't! why don't you ask him?  jumping the gun a little to assume DMZ etc and all that
[04:19] <adriyel> PukingGeko, was sudo working initially?
[04:19] <mustard5> adriyel, I'm a bit lost too :)
[04:19] <PukingGeko> yeah, perfectly
[04:19] <PukingGeko> i just rebooted to test the wireless.
[04:19] <tomaj> where is a good tutorial for configuring file sharing that isnt ubotu's definition of samba
[04:19] <adriyel> NigelS, sheesh, sorry. it just sounded like a "behind router" problem, heard it 1,000,000 times before
[04:19] <blackhat> Anyone know where I can get transcode? its not in apt-get.
[04:19] <PukingGeko> and all of the suden sudo's gone
[04:19] <adriyel> PukingGeko, you rebooted, and sudo doesn't work...
[04:19] <blackhat> !transcode
[04:19] <ubotu> blackhat: Bugger all, i dunno
[04:19] <adriyel> PukingGeko, did you login as root, or your normal user?
[04:19] <PukingGeko> actually
[04:19] <nicholaspaul> ok ok adriyel , NigelS doing a little more research, i can login to some computers and not others.
[04:20] <PukingGeko> i chmod 777 -R /usr/bin/
[04:20] <mustard5> PukingGeko, you might have to use recovery mode to view your sudoers file
[04:20] <adriyel> nicholaspaul,  :| some people have all the luck
[04:20] <misfit_toy> blackhat, it's part of another package, alas I can't remember what it is...
[04:20] <Siph0n> adriyel: some helicopter project... http://perso.wanadoo.fr/pascal.brisset/chromicro/doc/chromicro.html
[04:20] <adriyel> PukingGeko, *bangs head on desk* why didn't you say so before?
[04:20] <adriyel> Siph0n, hmm. multiverse?
[04:20] <mustard5> adriyel, hehe
[04:20] <PukingGeko> i just remembered
[04:20] <PukingGeko> that's the problem!
[04:21] <adriyel> omg, this is why I only do tech support as a hobby and not as a job
[04:21] <msg43> can somsone please help me with ndiswrapper?
[04:21] <adriyel> I'm going to go commit suicide, kthx.
[04:21] <Siph0n> ? i dunno what that is, im new :)
[04:21] <adriyel> Siph0n, you new to Linux, or just Ubuntu?
[04:21] <NigelS> nicholaspaul: ok - any error thrown back from them? some are running their own firewall? they've all got sshd listening on 22?
[04:21] <nicholaspaul> adriyel i just have some funny things going on in the network i think
[04:21] <Siph0n> both :)
[04:21] <mustard5> PukingGeko, I think you should seek advice next time before you try to 'fix things'
[04:21] <adriyel> nicholaspaul, you buy netgear hardware? *smiles*
[04:21] <nicholaspaul> NigelS, how do i set sshd?
[04:21] <PukingGeko> okay, crap-> how should i get everything back to normal permissions?
[04:21] <nicholaspaul> adriyel, oddly enough, i do have an MA111 :)
[04:21] <Siph0n> ive used Mandrake for a little before, then tryed Ubuntu, heard it was awesome :)
[04:21] <mustard5> adriyel, I have no idea how to fix this
[04:22] <blackhat> Whats the file that contains the APT servers?
[04:22] <adriyel> Siph0n, you're new to Linux, and you're attempting to code for an obscure processor with a generally linux-only compiler...(I don't care about MingW32, don't correct me.)
[04:22] <PukingGeko> what should the permissions be? 555?
[04:22] <adriyel> Siph0n, you got balls kid :D
[04:22] <freddy> ubuntu brothers, how can i get rid of the messages that come up when booting up my system...i really like to add an image or something....please?
[04:22] <adriyel> Siph0n, I've activated the extra repo's and such, lemme see if the it exists
[04:22] <msg43> Can this dam community help me with ndiswrapper?
[04:22] <NigelS> nicholaspaul: if sshd is running on these boxes by default it will be listening on 22; if you wanted to change that its in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:22] <mustard5> PukingGeko, have you done much since installing?  Is reinstalling an option?
[04:23] <freddy> msg43, lol
[04:23] <Madpilot> msg43: insulting "the community" is probably not a good way to start...
[04:23] <PukingGeko> yeah, sure
[04:23] <Siph0n> lol, thing is i dont really gotta code nething, the code is all out there already... we just gotta get it to work...
[04:23] <freddy> msg43, what about it?
[04:23] <freddy> what chipset
[04:23] <PukingGeko> mustard5 -> that's what i need, huh?
[04:23] <Siph0n> at least first, then afterwards we gonna try and add some more functionality
[04:23] <nicholaspaul> NigelS, i installed ssh and ssh server, but do i have to install sshd too?
[04:23] <mustard5> PukingGeko, come back here and seek advice on how to do stuff..thats what i would do yes
[04:23] <msg43> freddy, I'm not sure
[04:23] <adriyel> Siph0n, meh? so you're trying to compile it under and operating system you don't understand? you're freaking cool man. (not sarcastic) seriously, thats awesome.
[04:23] <freddy> what brand?
[04:23] <PukingGeko> mustard5 -> alright... thanks
[04:23] <mustard5> PukingGeko, you've made a mess and it will be messy to fix
[04:23] <msg43> the driver is bcmwl5
[04:23] <adriyel> Siph0n, I don't think you need to install a whole new gcc package
[04:23] <adriyel> Siph0n, I'
[04:23] <msg43> that came with the wireless drive ront eh cd
[04:23] <freddy> linksys?
[04:24] <djbrieck> question  about setting up grub, I want to modify my boot up so it remembers the last boot selected, i modified this file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:24] <tomaj> adriyel be nice or dont help
[04:24] <mustard5> PukingGeko, the easy option is 'start again' but seek advice first
[04:24] <freddy> ubuntu brothers, how can i get rid of the messages that come up when booting up my system...i really like to add an image or something....please?
[04:24] <adriyel> Siph0n, I'd say grab gcc-3 of some sort, like 3.3 or 3.4, (gcc-3.4) and compile for ARM (cflags/chost?)
[04:24] <djbrieck> is that right
[04:24] <adriyel> tomaj, I said I wasn't being sarcastic
[04:24] <PukingGeko> yeah... i will next time
[04:24] <msg43> Ok I'm stuck I connnect to the internet
[04:24] <msg43> using ndiswrapper
[04:24] <tomaj> adriyel but you were lol
[04:24] <mustard5> PukingGeko, we can walk you through it all next time
[04:24] <adriyel> tomaj, this kids got a lot more balls than I do, I can appreciate someone willing to try something risky
[04:24] <msg43> I got ndiswrapper all setup
[04:24] <adriyel> tomaj, I wasn't being sarcastic, I think its awesome that he was willing to just leap into something like that
[04:24] <PukingGeko> yeah, you guys are normally pretty great
[04:25] <tomaj> adriyel fair enough you just seem to be having a bad day :)
[04:25] <msg43> but now I have no clud what to do
[04:25] <PukingGeko> alright... back to the boot disk...
[04:25] <teja> dont u get the ubuntu splash while booting?
[04:25] <mustard5> PukingGeko, good luck
[04:25] <tomaj> adriyel maybe i just misjudged the situation
[04:25] <freddy> msg43, install the driver
[04:25] <adriyel> tomaj, as opposed to? I don't come on here frequently
[04:25] <adriyel> tomaj, its cool
[04:25] <PukingGeko> let's see how bad i can crap this up now.... :)
[04:25] <nicholaspaul> adriyel, you dont like netgear gear?
[04:25] <msg43> freddy, I did that
[04:25] <freddy> msg43, ndiswrapper --help
[04:25] <superbeast> anyone know how to uninstall grub?
[04:25] <freddy> now check if it is installed
[04:25] <adriyel> nicholaspaul, bad experience with a netgear router, I just buy linksys stuff now
[04:25] <msg43> freddy, ndiswrapper says it is
[04:25] <nicholaspaul> adriyel,  this is a d-link router and nics
[04:25] <adriyel> Siph0n, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[04:25] <msg43> I did ndiswrapper -l
[04:26] <freddy> it is where?
[04:26] <adriyel> nicholaspaul, do you frequently have probs with this?
[04:26] <freddy> let me know what it says exactly
[04:26] <nicholaspaul> yes adriyel
[04:26] <teja> superbeast, what do u want to do after uninstalling grub?
[04:26] <adriyel> Siph0n, then run gcc -mcpu=arm sourcefile_blah
[04:26] <adriyel> I think.
[04:26] <Siph0n> adriyel, thnx! ill try that right now :)
[04:26] <msg43> freddy, ok
[04:26] <superbeast> i want to run a linux live cd, it won't let me boot from cd with grub installed
[04:26] <msg43> bcmwl5, driver present,  hardware present
[04:26] <adriyel> nicholaspaul, I don't remember hearing much that is good about DLink either, is it possible theres one faulty network device between you and the host computer? how many pieces of hardware are you jumping across?
[04:27] <tito> Yes
[04:27] <tomaj> do i have to setup samba traditionally or will using System > Administration > Shared Folders do it all for me?
[04:27] <tito> I got it working
[04:27] <adriyel> Siph0n, if its not -mcpu=arm its something similar, gotta be. usually such projects use make to compile it, so you may need to edit the make file, although compiling for arm stuff shoulda been done for you if that is the case, so I don't really know :(
[04:27] <tito> I'm am msg43
[04:27] <nicholaspaul> adriyel everything is Internet > wifi router > pc
[04:27] <tito> for whatever reason the network tools doesn't work to well
[04:28] <adriyel> nicholaspaul, so this is going across the internet?
[04:28] <adriyel> nicholaspaul, I was told it was a LAN, not 'cross the net
[04:28] <teja> superbeast, be prepared for a total loss of your data. the MBR is from 0-512 bytes. so if you want to destroy grub, do this dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda(anything)  bs=510 count=1
[04:28] <NigelS> nicholaspaul: sshd == ssh daemon == ssh server
[04:28] <superbeast> bah don't want to lose data
[04:28] <tito> freddy, It worked
[04:28] <tito> Woot!
[04:28] <NigelS> adriyel: 03:16 < nicholaspaul> NigelS, i'm sshing within the network, all LAN
[04:28] <teja> but, you can try removing your harddisk from the mobo for a while and test the livecd
[04:29] <adriyel> NigelS, contradictory to what was just said, I am really horribly confused
[04:29] <adriyel> superbeast, whats the prob with your hdd?
[04:29] <superbeast> lol none
[04:29] <Siph0n> adriyel, yea, there is a makefile im lookin at right now to modify :)
[04:30] <superbeast> i want to replace my ubuntu partition with slax , but first i need to run the slax live cd
[04:30] <nicholaspaul> adriyel,  you just misread thats all, dont worry
[04:30] <adriyel> Siph0n, well there you go then :D hopefully it'll work. the whole point of gcc is to have one package + g++ (c++) and typically gdb for debugging. the cool part about gcc is that its typically capable of generating code for just about any architecture out there
[04:30] <superbeast> and it won't let me with grub installed
[04:30] <ubuntu> hi
[04:30] <tomaj> superbeast dont make me spank you, stay with ubuntu
[04:30] <superbeast> it doesn't work
[04:31] <shawn_> hey if i got timed out and got detached to a terminal, how do i reattach to that old terminal if i log back in (using ssh into a bsd box..)
[04:31] <adriyel> nicholaspaul, is the local network this machine is on going across wifi then?
[04:31] <tomaj> superbeast why not?
[04:31] <NigelS> superbeast: if you're running a live cd why is grub involved? your bios should have CD set to boot from first and boot off that
[04:31] <nicholaspaul> adriyel, yea, its all wifi
[04:31] <superbeast> well xserver won't start and i tried a reconfigure command but it didn't help me
[04:31] <adriyel> nicholaspaul, how strong is the signal for both your box and the ssh/host boxen?
[04:31] <superbeast> i think it might be my x800xl
[04:31] <tomaj> are you sure xserver wont start?
[04:31] <dalani> turnkey answers please!
[04:31] <nicholaspaul> adriyel,  or will be when i get MA111 working, but for now, there are 2 wifis and one hardwired
[04:32] <adriyel> (I have a Linksys WRT54G, I tried the wireless, couldn't stand it)
[04:32] <Ep|phany> anyone here use tightvnc?
[04:32] <nicholaspaul> adriyel, pretty strong, i'm only 20' away , if that.
[04:32] <superbeast> ... it has a message that pops up saying to go to x's wiki
[04:32] <tomaj> dalani, support is free here have patience
[04:32] <adriyel> mine never was that strong, dunno why.
[04:32] <dducko> Ep|phany, I have
[04:32] <adriyel> superbeast, have you install the fglrx drivers?
[04:32] <adriyel> ubuto tell superbeast about ati
[04:32] <NigelS> gotta hate 802.11g for interference - my friends wireless connection drops whenever the microwave is used :)
[04:32] <nicholaspaul> !ssh
[04:32] <ubotu> methinks ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[04:32] <Ep|phany> is it like a linux viersion of real vnc?
[04:33] <shawn_> anybody know of a good bsd support chat? i got detached from a terminal due to a timeout and would like to reattach to it (i was editing something with vi)
[04:33] <superbeast> nope
[04:33] <tomaj> superbeast try this instead
[04:33] <adriyel> shawn_, #bsd or whatever version of bsd you are using
[04:33] <Ep|phany> dducko: is it like a linux version for real vnc?
[04:33] <dducko> TightVnc is a version of vnc that compresses it, makes it useful for slow connections Ep|phany
[04:33] <adriyel> are you using net, free, or open bsd?
[04:33] <dducko> Its all VNC,  Real, Ultra, Tight
[04:33] <tomaj> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:33] <Ep|phany> dducko: can i accsess a server that i have running on a windows with real vnc
[04:33] <Ep|phany> threw tightvnc
[04:33] <dducko> Ep|phany, aloso you have vnc already installed
[04:33] <superbeast> so that should work?
[04:34] <_Dez> how do i delete ubuntu
[04:34] <dducko> type vncviewer in a terminal
[04:34] <tomaj> then go down to the device section and change Driver to vesa and restart
[04:34] <dducko> well and the IP of the one you want to connect to
[04:34] <superbeast> ill brb if it doesnt work
[04:34] <adriyel> of course you will :D
[04:34] <adriyel> my gosh, theres so many people in here
[04:35] <tomaj> adriyel yeah it's unusually busy
[04:35] <tito> Were can I get list of sources for ubuntu 5.10
[04:35] <adriyel> tomaj, well, its usually floating around 200-300, all but 10-15 would be squatters though
[04:35] <adriyel> now I feel like I'm watching a lvl50 tetris game :(
[04:36] <tomaj> hahahahaha
[04:36] <dducko> ubotu tell tito about repos
[04:36] <adriyel> hmm...g/f should be calling soon
[04:36] <tomaj> lol adriyel: bbl booty call
[04:36] <tomaj> but that in ""'s
[04:36] <Siph0n> adriyel, i did a find for arm-linux-gcc ,and found it :) so think i just gotta change some directorys around or sometin
[04:37] <Siph0n> or paths or whatever :)
[04:37] <adriyel> Siph0n, ah, cool
[04:37] <ion> thanks and have a goodnight everybody......
[04:37] <adriyel> Siph0n, I don't see why the default install couldn't have compiled for arm, but *shrugs* I only code for i386/x86_64...
[04:38] <adriyel> holy crap.
[04:38] <adriyel> chanserv quit?
[04:38] <tomaj> leet
[04:38] <adriyel> who will maintain order? :(
[04:38] <adriyel> crap.
[04:38] <NigelS> there was order?
[04:38] <tomaj> haha nigels
[04:38] <nicholaspaul> lol
[04:38] <adriyel> lol.
[04:40] <tomaj> suddenly there's silence
[04:40] <adriyel> no kidding
[04:40] <tomaj> we should kick chanserv more often
[04:40] <adriyel> we're all afraid
[04:40] <SbCl3> how do i restart alsa?
[04:40] <adriyel> dammit.
[04:40] <adriyel> it ended.
[04:40] <tomaj> lol
[04:40] <adriyel> sigh.
[04:40] <adriyel> I am too lazy to type the command.
[04:40] <tomaj> i dont know the command, i'd just restart personally
[04:40] <NigelS> SbCl3: /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[04:40] <SbCl3> thank you, NigelS
[04:40] <adriyel> thanks Nig, I'll be sure to foist my laziness on you more often
[04:40] <adriyel> *laughs*
[04:40] <NigelS> hehe
[04:40] <phasegen> anyone good with networking?
[04:40] <vvarsendagger> hey i can't login on my ubuntu server machien, waht can i do?
[04:40] <adriyel> phasegen, well, I happen to be on the internet, so I'd consider that an accomplishment given the havoc the windows boxen wreaks on this network (not my compy, some other obstinate win32 user)
[04:41] <SbCl3> NigelS: that doesn't work; it says the command is deprecated and to use alsa-utils init script instead
[04:41] <adriyel> SbCl3, so use alsa-utils.
[04:41] <tito> I have to say ubuntu is very nice
[04:41] <vvarsendagger> any ideas?
[04:41] <NigelS> SbCl3: yeah, replace the alsa -- > alsa-utils, 'tis not very often you have to restart alsa really :)
[04:41] <phasegen> adriyel: what about networking two ubuntu boxes together w/wireless
[04:42] <NigelS> vvarsendagger: kinda need more info; how are you logging in/connecting, what error etc
[04:42] <adriyel> phasegen, lemme rephrase this. don't ask rhetorical questions to the whole of the channel, whats the problem?
[04:42] <Tank-> Is there a known problem with breazy's xserver-xorg-core_6.8.2-77_i386 package ? i keep getting  unable to create `./usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a': No such file or directory
[04:43] <adriyel> Tank-, why are you installing the pkg? did you remove it or something?
[04:43] <_native_> its friday go party!
[04:43] <phasegen> can't get them to connect...  I used the tool in system>administration>networking...
[04:43] <tomaj> actually its saturday morning _native_
[04:43] <NigelS> horribly early saturday morning here
[04:43] <adriyel> _native_, my party happens tomorrow, I'm gonna be with my woman for 12 hours....12 hour long booty call baby :D
[04:43] <adriyel> NigelS, Brit?
[04:44] <NigelS> yeah adriyel
[04:44] <adriyel> NigelS, I could tell from the name :P
[04:44] <_native_> lol
[04:44] <adriyel> superbeast, how goes the war?
[04:44] <NigelS> :)
[04:44] <wickedpuppy> saturday morning in south-east asia too
[04:44] <nicholaspaul> do i sound like a Brit too then?
[04:44] <_native_> its 844pm here
[04:44] <superbeast> bad
[04:44] <Nothingman> hey, all
[04:44] <_native_> im staying in its rainning and cold.
[04:44] <adriyel> nicholaspaul, not particularly. then again, this isn't voice chat.
[04:44] <tomaj> not work superbeast?
[04:44] <adriyel> nicholaspaul, none of you have said bugger all yet...so, no indicator there.
[04:44] <nicholaspaul> adriyel,  oh. Cant tell from my name huh.. ;)
[04:44] <tomaj> adriyel thank god!!
[04:44] <superbeast> it didn't work, it had a blank screen and some options at the bottom that didn't work
[04:45] <adriyel> nicholaspaul, nigel is a lot more obvious than a double first name
[04:45] <tomaj> superbeast can you be more specific?
[04:45] <adriyel> tomaj, thank god/me for what?
[04:45] <nicholaspaul> adriyel,  boy, the assumptions you make :)
[04:45] <tomaj> adriyel that it isnt voicechat
[04:45] <Ep|phany> dducko: how do i connect to a rvnc server i made
[04:45] <Ep|phany> i did
[04:45] <Ep|phany> but when i type the server
[04:45] <Ep|phany> it never connects
[04:45] <nicholaspaul> its not a double first name. Its an IRC nic
[04:45] <Ep|phany> is there something special i have to do?
[04:45] <adriyel> tomaj, you just made me laugh
[04:45] <vvarsendagger> NigelS, i installed ubuntu -server, and i have x-org problems -- i need to install x.org-session-core but i cant' get a login to work
[04:45] <adriyel> tomaj, lol, indeed though
[04:45] <superbeast> i typed sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[04:45] <adriyel> and?
[04:46] <nicholaspaul> grief
[04:46] <NigelS> vvarsendagger: this is a physical login, e.g. at the machine, or remotely with ssh?
[04:46] <adriyel> (hanging on every word)
[04:46] <nicholaspaul> blimey
[04:46] <Aven> Hey
[04:46] <Aven> I typed apt-get remove proftpd
[04:46] <vvarsendagger> physical
[04:46] <Nothingman> suddenly anything I download gives me an error regarding libSDL
[04:46] <adriyel> nicholaspaul, blimey. boom, you've been marked.
[04:46] <Aven> I also completly removed it from synaptic
[04:46] <nicholaspaul> perfect
[04:46] <superbeast> ........there isn't much to it then that
[04:46] <Aven> but it's still running
[04:46] <vvarsendagger> and i was loging in yesterday fine
[04:46] <adriyel> nicholaspaul, yee-haw.
[04:46] <Aven> how can I stop it? :\
[04:46] <phasegen> adriyel: can't get them to connect...  I used the tool in system>administration>networking...  set the same network name, no wep key, and static ip addresses
[04:46] <_native_> bbl
[04:46] <Nothingman> what can I do?
[04:46] <vvarsendagger> but i installed gnome
[04:46] <adriyel> superbeast, did it open the file when you typed that or what?
[04:46] <tomaj> superbeast so nothing opened, are you running from the live cd?
[04:46] <vvarsendagger> any ideas
[04:47] <adriyel> phasegen, set them to use DHCP
[04:47] <adriyel> phasegen, also make sure your WAP has dhcp enabled, and that wireless is enabled, and that MAC addresses/encryption aren't buggering around
[04:47] <superbeast> there was no text, just a few options at the bottom and "command prompt/dos type thing" to type in
[04:48] <NigelS> vvarsendagger: seems a little odd then;  you're logging in at virtual terminal 1, CTRL-ALT-F1 with the same login/pw combo? it's saying incorrect pw or?
[04:48] <adriyel> superbeast, I don't think you opened the actual file
[04:48] <superbeast> whoa
[04:48] <superbeast> yeah i don't think i did either
[04:48] <adriyel> superbeast, try this command verbatim, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:48] <adriyel> you missed a capital
[04:48] <vvarsendagger> NigelS, yes that is correct
[04:48] <NigelS> superbeast: did you type /etc/x11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:48] <adriyel> unix/linux is case sensitive, DOS/Win32 is not.
[04:48] <adriyel> remember that carefully
[04:48] <adriyel> NigelS, way ahead of you kid :P
[04:49] <NigelS> adriyel: takes a while to type those slashes :)
[04:49] <superbeast> opk i'll give it another go
[04:49] <adriyel> typically if nano is blank and something should be there, your typo alarm should be going off
[04:49] <vvarsendagger> i am thinking that i sould reinstall ubuntu but i don't wanna
[04:49] <adriyel> NigelS, thats what I use the tab key and middle mouse button for
[04:49] <tomaj> superbeast, capitalisation is very important in linux you know that right?
[04:49] <superbeast> ok well i'm a linux newb
[04:49] <adriyel> NigelS, but I am a Vi user, so I shortcut everything
[04:49] <adriyel> superbeast, its cool, I've made all the mistakes you can think of
[04:49] <adriyel> superbeast, try it, does it work?
[04:49] <superbeast> brb
[04:49] <adriyel> kz.
[04:49] <tomaj> adriyel speak for yourself, my first distro was gentoo
[04:49] <tomaj> :P
[04:50] <phasegen> adriyel: still no joy
[04:50] <Ep|phany> whtas a good wireless routeR?
[04:50] <adriyel> tomaj, yeah, my second distro was gentoo. that was my first Linux mistake *snickers*
[04:50] <Davey> Hey, if I buy a bluetooth dongle, and this: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000BI4KKM/ref=pd_sr_ec_ir_wr/102-9041115-9057709?v=glance&s=wireless&st=* - you reckon that'll work for Skype? :)
[04:50] <NigelS> vvarsendagger: that is strange then - trying first of all potentially insulting things (sorry) caps lock isn't on? there's space on the harddisk last you knew? no one else has physical access to the machine?
[04:50] <adriyel> tomaj, stage-1, I might add.
[04:50] <tomaj> adriyel, gentoo is alright but waaaay to much effort, that's why i like ubuntu easy peasy
[04:50] <Davey> Ep|phany, I like the Linksys ones, owned by Cisco now :)
[04:50] <Tank-> adriyel: upgrading from hoary to breazy
[04:51] <Aven> how do I stop a specific port from running?
[04:51] <Tank-> via apt-get dist-upgrade.
[04:51] <Aven> using iptables..
[04:51] <adriyel> tomaj, I used gentoo for a long time, then I got sick of small proggies taking 1/2 hour to install
[04:51] <adriyel> tomaj, easy indeed.
[04:51] <adriyel> Tank-, doing a dist-upgrade is problematic in my experience, you'd be better off backing up data and doing a CD install
[04:51] <adriyel> !dist-upgrade
[04:51] <ubotu> adriyel: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:51] <adriyel> !hoary to breezy
[04:51] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, adriyel
[04:51] <tomaj> imo gentoo is a great server distro because you install it and its optimised and then you leave it
[04:51] <adriyel> useless friggin bot.
[04:51] <tomaj> !breezy
[04:51] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:51] <trincamckee> pentiumIII is a i386 proessor?
[04:51] <tomaj> adriyel you can only use one word afaik
[04:51] <adriyel> tomaj, I prefer CentOS x86_64 for that purpose
[04:51] <Siph0n> hey, if i see arm-linux-gcc3.4.2 and also arm-linux-gcc (they are in light blue), does that mean they are commands?
[04:52] <NigelS> trincamckee: yeah
[04:52] <adriyel> trincamckee, no, its i686. its just that most software is compiled for i386 for compat reasons
[04:52] <adriyel> Siph0n, no, the gcc is prolly gcc 4
[04:52] <trincamckee> its just compatible?
[04:52] <adriyel> Siph0n, you want 3.4.2 trust me
[04:52] <Siph0n> k
[04:52] <Ep|phany> is 54Mbps good for a wireless router
[04:52] <NigelS> trincamckee: if you see something marked that, it's what you want to use basically
[04:52] <Ep|phany> thats its speed
[04:52] <adriyel> Siph0n, I still can't get hello_world.c to compile in gcc4...I sh1t you not
[04:52] <rain`> light blue is links and blue is folders
[04:52] <NigelS> trincamckee: though a kernel might be marked i686
[04:52] <Siph0n> oh k
[04:53] <Siph0n> lol well ill see if my partners have ne luck on monday :)
[04:53] <adriyel> NigelS, compiling a kernel for 686 is pointless unless your libs have been optimized as well, quoth the book of Gentoo, verses 5-7
[04:53] <phasegen> adriyel: still doesn't connect, this is supposed to be a machine to machine connection, intent is to share dialup
[04:53] <adriyel> Siph0n, you aren't giving up are you?
[04:53] <Siph0n> lol, no way.... maybe just taking a break
[04:53] <trincamckee> ok i got it
[04:53] <adriyel> phasegen, OHHHH, you need an adhoc connection then!
[04:53] <trincamckee> tks
[04:53] <Agrajag> adriyel: the kernel doesn't link into your userland libraries, gentoo doesn't have all the answers
[04:53] <Siph0n> been at it all yesterday and today
[04:53] <adriyel> phasegen, why didn't you say so?
[04:53] <NigelS> adriyel: ah but the book of gentoo doth also pronounce that thou shalt compile ls with -O3 and claim that thou canst tell the difference
[04:53] <phasegen> sorry...
[04:53] <Siph0n> and got work in a few hours :)
[04:54] <adriyel> Agrajag, ah yes, but the point in optimization is a faster/smoother experience, this cannot be obtained from optimizing the kernel only.
[04:54] <adriyel> NigelS, actually I always did a -Os
[04:54] <cajun> mail-notification wont' upgrade.  i have followed the directions and it just won't upgrade
[04:54] <Nothingman> why can't I run games when the SDL library is there?
[04:54] <cajun> is it safe to uninstall it then reinstall it?
[04:54] <Nothingman> I get an error saying it can't be found
[04:54] <adriyel> and if Gentoo doesn't have all the answers, then Slackware does.
[04:54] <adriyel> or FreeBSD.
[04:54] <NigelS> hmph.
[04:54] <adriyel> I was a gentoo user, not a gentoo ricer.
[04:55] <adriyel> I used the useflags more than anything...
[04:55] <adriyel> I always though it was funny when my -Os boxen would beat an O3 in a benchmark though....the ricers got *pissed* when that happened
[04:56] <vvarsendagger> NigelS, yes i am sure caps lock and there hasn't been anyaccess to my account
[04:56] <NigelS> I just thought the whole exercise was a glorious waste of CPU cycles. :)
[04:56] <vvarsendagger> i can look at my /etc/pssword
[04:56] <NigelS> vvarsendagger: how are you viewing that?
[04:56] <vvarsendagger> i am on a live cd right now
[04:57] <NigelS> vvarsendagger: ah good, what's the disk usage?
[04:57] <adriyel> NigelS, no, gentoo is good for some VERY specific applications. but for most purposes its not that great, thats why i use ubuntu now
[04:57] <NigelS> vvarsendagger: /etc/shadow is the file to check for pw hashes :)
[04:57] <Agrajag> vvarsendagger: so change your password now
[04:57] <vvarsendagger> i really can't get into my ubuntu but i can open and alter whatever
[04:57] <superbeast> i wish i knew what i should do in that
[04:57] <Agrajag> vvarsendagger: you need to chroot into your ubuntu root
[04:57] <vvarsendagger> ok ok
[04:57] <kevogod> What's a good bandwidth monitor/shaper?
[04:58] <adriyel> NigelS, if you're starving for cash and need to squeeze more performance out of your server, gentoo is a good way to plop and drop a server into the situation once its finished
[04:58] <Agrajag> Then you can set a new password
[04:58] <vvarsendagger> Agrajag, can you help me do that
[04:58] <Agrajag> a bit, sure
[04:58] <NigelS> vvarsendagger: if your pw is diff, I am bothered by why it is now diff, almost more than changing it back :)
[04:58] <vvarsendagger> true
[04:58] <superbeast> a lot of the options look familiar cause i configured some with sudo dpkg-reconfigure sserver xorg
[04:58] <Agrajag> vvarsendagger: You have your ubuntu install mounted?
[04:58] <adriyel> superbeast, they should. what was your problem again? OH YEAH
[04:59] <NigelS> adriyel: I'm sure it is useful. Just don't tell the irritating fanbois I said so :)
[04:59] <adriyel> superbeast, you need to set your video driver to vesa
[04:59] <adriyel> superbeast, find the dialog for the driver and check to make sure it says vesa
[04:59] <superbeast> so what line am i changing?
[04:59] <superbeast> ok
[04:59] <vvarsendagger> i am looking at myu ubuntu /etc/shadow and there is a shadow and a shadow-
[04:59] <Agrajag> ok, don't mess with those just yet
[04:59] <vvarsendagger> ok
[05:00] <superbeast> ok i am having trouble leving that with X^ so how would i leave and save changes?
[05:00] <superbeast> *leaving
[05:00] <adriyel> NigelS, yeah, its really only good for servers that need a huge amount of speed or control over packages. its crap for stability, and I'd rather use OpenBSD for security, or CentOS 4.2 for a general purpose server
[05:00] <Nothingman> ./trigger: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:00] <Nothingman> but SDL is installed
[05:00] <Agrajag> ok, step one is, we're going to remove root's password entirely.
[05:00] <adriyel> NigelS, I just wish people would quit compiling for i386 *scowls at debian*
[05:00] <Nothingman> so is libsdl_image
[05:00] <Agrajag> vvarsendagger: open up /etc/passwd on your install and find root's line.
[05:00] <adriyel> NigelS, if the majority of distro's would compile for i586 or i686 by default I would be gloriously happy
[05:01] <vvarsendagger> ok
[05:01] <Agrajag> Where it says "x", delete that character. Leave the rest of the line alone.
[05:01] <superbeast> adriyel you there?
[05:01] <adriyel> superbeast, yeah, whats up?
[05:01] <superbeast> 23:00:25) superbeast: ok i am having trouble leving that with X^ so how would i leave and save changes?
[05:01] <vvarsendagger> ok
[05:01] <adriyel> um, you want me to dig up where the driver thingy is?
[05:01] <ifup> can someone help me? I screwed up my somthing in the printing system is there a way to remove all config files  and start fresh?
[05:01] <NigelS> vvarsendagger: btw, if you do lock yourself out of a box like this, unless someone has passworded the kernel boot options you can always do the linux init=/bin/sh trick to deliver yourself to a root prompt
[05:01] <superbeast> no
[05:02] <superbeast> i want to know how to exit and save it
[05:02] <vvarsendagger> just a sec NigelS
[05:02] <adriyel> superbeast, you gotta preface all your text with my name, otherwise I won't see it...such as, "adriyel, foo and bar did"
[05:02] <Agrajag> wait.
[05:02] <Agrajag> I just thought of a much easier way.
[05:02] <Boobek> hi
[05:02] <adriyel> there are way too many people in here
[05:02] <rabeldable> anyone know of a music player that is similar to winamp on windowz.. I want to find streams of music on the net and play them on my linux box.
[05:02] <vvarsendagger> cool
[05:03] <Agrajag> Put that x back, go back into /etc/passwd, and remove the one from your user's line
[05:03] <ifup> rabeldable, I use streamtuner and xmms
[05:03] <onispawn> beep media player or xmms
[05:03] <Agrajag> you should then be able to log in as your user with no password when you reboot.
[05:03] <NigelS> adriyel: yeah, I agree it's making a lot less sense nowadays.
[05:03] <superbeast> adriyel,  i want to know how to exit and save it. right now i have to hit the reset button on my computer to exit lol
[05:03] <Agrajag> Then you can set a new password.
[05:03] <vvarsendagger> rabeldable, sudo apt-get install streamtuner
[05:03] <dducko> rabeldable, install streamtuner
[05:03] <rabeldable> coolio
[05:03] <dducko> or check out www.pandora.com
[05:03] <adriyel> NigelS, only things like smoothwall should be compiling for i386, and even then, i486 would be more appropiate
[05:03] <dducko> its pretty cool too
[05:03] <adriyel> superbeast, its ctrl-x and then hit y for yes
[05:03] <tito> Hi
[05:03] <superbeast> adriyel thanks
[05:03] <tito> I have a nvidia graphic card but opengl runs really slow
[05:04] <vvarsendagger> Agrajag, i have passwd and passwd-
[05:04] <adriyel> NigelS, stupid tradition. they wonder why idiotic concepts like compiling everything from source come along...you know why? BECAUSE YOU KEEP COMPILING IT FOR i386!
[05:04] <Agrajag> just passwd
[05:04] <adriyel> superbeast, sorry for not seeing text earlier
[05:04] <tomaj> superbeast did you have your problems solved
[05:04] <adriyel> gentoo ricers are the evil spawn of that
[05:04] <Agrajag> I believe passwd- is just a backup
[05:04] <adriyel> tomaj, working on it, patience.
[05:04] <vvarsendagger> ok
[05:05] <tomaj> adriyel im just helping you out ;)
[05:05] <NigelS> tito: you heed the nvidia drivers.  You can get them yourself from www.nvidia.com or from ubuntu I think
[05:05] <adriyel> tomaj,  :)
[05:05] <superbeast> tomaj, no i am rebooting now to fix
[05:05] <Agrajag> anyway, if it lets you log in with no password (it'll still ask for one, just hit enter) set a new password IMMEDIATELY
[05:05] <adriyel> !nvidia
[05:05] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:05] <Agrajag> Then you should be good to go
[05:05] <dducko> tito, if you can get the ones from apt, that would be best
[05:05] <vvarsendagger> how do i do that trick
[05:05] <adriyel> eat it up tito
[05:05] <Agrajag> what trick
[05:05] <adriyel> dducko, I ran nvidia.com's drivers...
[05:05] <adriyel> I think.
[05:05] <adriyel> lol
[05:05] <vvarsendagger> the one NigelS was talking aobut
[05:06] <adriyel> gah
[05:06] <dducko> A pain to set up with ubuntu
[05:06] <NigelS> adriyel: yeah, I guess the emperor's new clothes would be even more translucent if distros were a bit more optimised.
[05:06] <dducko> exporting gcc versions, incompaitable stuff installed
[05:06] <Agrajag> better ask him, I didn't see it
[05:06] <Nothingman> seriously, I've run ldconfig and set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point to it
[05:07] <Nothingman> doesn't make any flipping sense!
[05:07] <NigelS> vvarsendagger: if your bootloader isn't passworded you could get into a system with <image> rw init=/bin/sh
[05:07] <tomaj> dducko i've never had any problems with ubuntu so you must be trying to do something out of the ordinary
[05:07] <NigelS> vvarsendagger: but maybe the reason you can't log in would cause problems then too.
[05:07] <tomaj> dducko well i have but lets not talk about that
[05:07] <Agrajag> NigelS: I just had him remove his user's pw from /etc/password
[05:08] <tito> dducko, which ones? I have a GeForce4 440 Go 64M
[05:08] <Agrajag> NigelS: so he should be able to log in with no pw when he reboots, and set a new one
[05:08] <NigelS> vvarsendagger: see what Agrajag said you shouldn't need to do that now apparently
[05:08] <dducko> tomaj, I had the nvidia stuff from apt installed, decide i wanted nvidia's drivers
[05:08] <vvarsendagger> ok how do i ste a new pasword in cli
[05:08] <dducko> tito nvidia-glk
[05:08] <NigelS> Agrajag: thanks
[05:08] <Agrajag> vvarsendagger: run passwd
[05:08] <NigelS> vvarsendagger: passwd
[05:08] <dducko> sorry nvidia-glx
[05:08] <vvarsendagger> NigelS, good to know
[05:08] <co-jgj> hallo
[05:08] <chi> how can i tell if i need to use the ndswrapper for my wireless card??
[05:08] <Agrajag> it'll ask for your old password (just hit enter) then enter a new one
[05:08] <Agrajag> hopefully it'll work, if not come back in here
[05:09] <tito> dducko, do you mean nvidia-glx?
[05:09] <dducko> tomaj, and the Kernel is compiled with gcc-3.4 and 4.0 is the default one.
[05:09] <dducko> tito yeah
[05:09] <vvarsendagger> NigelS, how would i enter that <imiage> rw init =/bin/sh
[05:09] <Agrajag> You might need to clear the entry out of shadow as well as passwd, but I don't think so
[05:09] <Agrajag> vvarsendagger: you don't have to do that
[05:09] <vvarsendagger> rather where?
[05:09] <vvarsendagger> i won't but i'd like to know how
[05:09] <derrickw> can anybody help me with a video mode problem? i was trying to install fallout 2 under xwine and my screen goes black and my monitor flashes "unable to display this video mode"  then the fallout 2 setup screen appears in the top left corner of the screen for a moment and then closes. i havn't had any luck running any program that changes the screen resolution
[05:09] <Agrajag> vvarsendagger: the grub prompt
[05:10] <NigelS> vvarsendagger: not at the linux shell prompt, at the bootloader, so you know you can give options at grub/lilo, you do it there and it boots the kernel image with those options
[05:10] <dducko> tomaj, leared all kinds of new commands to get it working.. no x for half hour or so but I got it and all the better for knowing how to do it
[05:10] <tomaj> dducko why does that cause problems?
[05:10] <tito> dducko, then what do I do?
[05:10] <vvarsendagger> thanks a ton guys
[05:10] <NigelS> np
[05:10] <dducko> did you install that?
[05:10] <tito> dducko, yes
[05:10] <dducko> at the very bottom of the blurb it has  a command to run.
[05:10] <tito> I'm have had much exprince with linux just not ubuntu nor a nvidia
[05:11] <NigelS> night night all
[05:11] <tito> dducko, I do not see it
[05:11] <dducko> tomaj, it causes a problem if you dont know how to export,  and make it see the right gcc else it wont compile correctly for the kernel
[05:11] <dducko> one sec
[05:12] <dducko> tito, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:12] <tomaj> dducko why compile anything in the first place?
[05:12] <tito> dducko, this is the output i get http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:12] <derrickw> anybody know why programs that cause my screen resolution to change might fail? i had the same problem running alpha centauri. my monitor just says "cannot display this screen resolution". it's a dell LCD
[05:12] <dducko> tomaj, I installed the drivers from Nvidia, not the ones in Apt
[05:12] <Daniel_linuX> I have just downoaded Enemy Territory for linux and its a .run file? what command do i use to install it?
[05:12] <adriyel> dducko, no prob with that
[05:12] <dducko> tomaj, they have to be compiled
[05:12] <tito> dducko, thanks I'll restart xorg what the best way? ctrl+alt+backspace?
[05:12] <tomaj> dducko why on earth would you want to do that?
[05:13] <Nothingman> why can't I run any game that uses SDL?
[05:13] <dducko> tomaj, cause I wanted them.
[05:13] <dducko> Im anal.
[05:13] <n0odl3> how do i invoke bittorrent via terminal?
[05:13] <dducko> that works tito
[05:13] <tomaj> dducko well that's not a problem with ubuntu ;)
[05:13] <rabeldable> streamtuner rocks... its better than the windows streams
[05:14] <tomaj> dducko although i have to admit it's not very proffessional to compile a kernel with a different gcc version than that provided by default
[05:14] <dducko> tomaj, I just like the idea of haveing the rigth stuff installed,  and it was  a fun  learning new stuff
[05:14] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to invoke bittorrent via term>
[05:14] <n0odl3> ?
[05:15] <dducko> tomaj, messed up the kernel to begin with,  installed back down to normal 686 and fixed xorg and rebooted
[05:15] <Nothingman> ppracer: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:15] <tomaj> dducko fair enough and im glad you puller through hehe i tried installing drivers for ati in debian and i was overjoyed that it came as a package in ubuntu lol, i dont recomend the experience to anyone
[05:15] <jt> WHADDUP YAKS!
[05:15] <freddy> hrmm ppl, lets say i installed mozilla without installing it with apt-get, how can i install mozilla-mplayer without having to install the firefox it tells me it needs?
[05:16] <dducko> tomaj, got symantic and got rid of stuff and went back to the k7 kernel and got it going.. my most favorite linux expierience thus far
[05:16] <tomaj> freddy search in synaptic, it should solve all your problems automagically
[05:16] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to invoke bittorent through the terminal?
[05:16] <tomaj> n0odl3 tried typing bittorrent?
[05:16] <n0odl3> yes
[05:16] <tomaj> why terminal?
[05:16] <n0odl3> because im using openbox
[05:16] <MarcN>        n0odl3    btdownload<hit tab for options>
[05:17] <tito> Hi
[05:17] <Daniel_linuX> Can anyone help with install a .run file
[05:17] <Daniel_linuX> ?
[05:17] <Madpilot> Daniel_linuX: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[05:17] <superbeast> i'm ubuntu
[05:17] <tito> dducko, thanks but i have one more issue
[05:17] <n0odl3> MarcN: i stopped a d/l how do i continue it?
[05:17] <Daniel_linuX> thanks
[05:17] <totaka> Hi, is there anyway to reboot ubuntu with normal user?
[05:17] <tito> glxgears one extreamly slow
[05:17] <totaka> My sudo broke:(
[05:18] <wickedpuppy> totaka, sure .. press the power button
[05:18] <dducko> mine are too,  I think i get about 700-800 with them
[05:18] <MarcN> n0odl3: bittorrent download?  just restart btdownload with the .torrent file
[05:18] <n0odl3> k
[05:18] <tito> dducko, no it like dead slow
[05:18] <tito> I have crappy on board using another distro and i get 392
[05:18] <totaka> wickedpuppy: I didn't want to do that.. is there any other way?
[05:18] <wickedpuppy> n0odl3, you are using azureus ?
[05:18] <tito> with the ones in ubuntu it doesn't evne give me a number
[05:18] <wickedpuppy> totaka, fix ya sudo .. without it you will be ... fish out of water
[05:19] <totaka> wickedpuppy: To fix it, I need to edit host file, but it requires root priviledge :(
[05:19] <n0odl3> wickedpuppt: no
[05:19] <Madpilot> tito: do actual 3d apps run OK?
[05:19] <wickedpuppy> n0odl3, ah k ... well nvm then
[05:20] <tito> Madpilot, tuxracer and ppracer do now the the nvidia-glx
[05:20] <tito> it just glxgears don't seem to be wokring
[05:20] <wickedpuppy> totaka, then you just have to reboot .. and boot into single mode to fix the sudoers .. what ya did ?
[05:20] <totaka> OK thanx for trying to help  anyway :(
[05:20] <wickedpuppy> tito, glxgears not working for a long time now
[05:20] <totaka> I changed host file thinking I was doing something wrong with hosts file
[05:20] <tito> wickedpuppy, another way to test it?
[05:20] <n0odl3> thanx MarcN
[05:21] <wickedpuppy> tito, if you can play tuxracer and puzzle bubble smoothly ..you got 3d acceleration
[05:21] <totaka> wickedpuppy: thanx, I will just power off
[05:21] <MarcN> n0odl3: no problem.
[05:21] <totaka> exit
[05:21] <tomaj> im off enjoy your support tetris :)
[05:21] <Madpilot> tito: then forget glxgears - it's not always reliable...
[05:21] <solidgroove> glxgears doesnt show fps
[05:22] <wickedpuppy> solidgroove, used to ..
[05:22] <solidgroove> no man either
[05:23] <solidgroove> is there a page that has lists of repos and what they have, or at least a list?
[05:23] <tito> oh ok thanks guys
[05:24] <tito> My younger cousin is gonna love ubuntu
[05:24] <Agrajag> solidgroove, wickedpuppy: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[05:24] <Madpilot> solidgroove: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:24] <Agrajag> god I love that
[05:24] <solidgroove> Madpilot, thanks
[05:25] <chi> holy crap i hate dsl
[05:27] <solidgroove> how do I add dapper?
[05:27] <solidgroove> there isnt a line i can input to sources.list for it
[05:27] <wickedpuppy> solidgroove, change breezy to dapper
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> Agrajag, who came up with that ... lol
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> my average FPS is about 3k ...
[05:28] <Agrajag> wickedpuppy: people who got sick of treating it as a benchmark apparently
[05:29] <Agrajag> wickedpuppy: SEE
[05:29] <Trustkill> i i was woundering if there is anyway to install ubuntu with gnome without installing all the apps that comes with it
[05:29] <Agrajag> SEE
[05:29] <Agrajag> j'accuse!
[05:29] <wickedpuppy> Trustkill, like what kind of app ?
[05:29] <Grug> hey guys - know where to get Java runtime for ubuntu ppc?
[05:29] <Trustkill> gaim xchat all music app firevox etc...
[05:30] <wickedpuppy> Trustkill, you can remove them after installing ... but then i would like to know why you need gnome if you are not going to use X
[05:30] <Trustkill> i want some apps but i wanna choose wich want i want installed
[05:30] <Trustkill> wich ones*
[05:31] <wickedpuppy> Trustkill, then you got to remove after install ... or maybe expert install ? i never tried that before
[05:31] <sambagirl> there are 3 version i see of Vista, FreeB, OpenEMR and OpenEMR for Mandrake.rpm if i am using ubuntu would i download OpenEMR?
[05:31] <Trustkill> custom install?
[05:31] <sambagirl> actually i am using Kubuntu
[05:31] <wickedpuppy> Trustkill, i thought its called experty install ... anyway whatever its called .. its not normal install
[05:31] <wickedpuppy> expert
[05:31] <Shadowline> hey, anyone know if linux has a equivlent to net send ?
[05:32] <Trustkill> ok u mean server installation only
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> Trustkill, yes
[05:32] <Trustkill> well guess ill try it
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> then you add gnome ... and add whatever app later
[05:33] <Trustkill> alright ill try it right about now
[05:33] <Grug> anybody know where to get java sdk for ubuntu ppc version?
[05:35] <intelikey> package bsdutils  what the heck is it ?
[05:35] <dducko> Shadowline, for linux machines, or to a windows machine?
[05:35] <ian> Anybody having azureus working with JRE 1.5?
[05:35] <aeon17x> ian: The one from Sun? I do.
[05:35] <IcemanV9> for pete's sake, how can I make qemu to run FASTER???
[05:36] <Shadowline> dducko: to a win box
[05:36] <ian> aeon17x: Great. Whats the performance like?
[05:36] <dducko> Shadowline, hang on a sec
[05:36] <IcemanV9> installation of ubuntu inside qemu is SOO slow!
[05:36] <ian> I mean memory utilisation as opposed to download speed.
[05:36] <aeon17x> Not bad, performs just about the same as the other Java.
[05:38] <SuseUX> My uncle has to run "sudo client" everytime to start his network up, any ideas?
[05:38] <aeon17x> It consumes between 250-350 MiB of virtual memory for me.
[05:38] <ian> aeon17x: Could you point me in the direction of a good How To for setting up JRE 1.5?
[05:38] <aeon17x> !java
[05:38] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:38] <dducko> Shadowline, http://www.littleigloo.org/software_002.php3
[05:39] <Xenguy> SuseUX: check /etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:39] <dducko> Shadowline, http://ubuntuguide.org/#linpopup
[05:39] <Shadowline> dducko: looking...thxs
[05:39] <adriyel> I have returned
[05:39] <adriyel> something smells....smells like an RPM distro...alright...who's got an RPM distro?
[05:39] <kevogod> !ubuntuguide
[05:39] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[05:39] <SuseUX> Xenguy, he runs a USB modem
[05:40] <adriyel> aha!
[05:40] <adriyel> theres the smelly perpetrator.
[05:40] <Xenguy> SuseUX: never used one of those
[05:40] <adriyel> SuseUX, you wouldn't perchance be using SuSE would you?
[05:40] <Xenguy> adriyel: that dastardly culprit!
[05:40] <Xenguy> :-)
[05:40] <SuseUX> it works but just I have to run that for him everytime
[05:40] <SuseUX> adriyel, no Slackware
[05:41] <Xenguy> heh
[05:41] <adriyel> SuseUX, hold on. You're got the name of SuSE, in an ubuntu channel, using Slackware?
[05:41] <SuseUX> yes
[05:41] <adriyel> SuseUX, what drugs are you using, and can you send me some?
[05:41] <misfit_toy> me too
[05:41] <SuseUX> no all out
[05:41] <Xenguy> adriyel: it is a little confusing we admit
[05:41] <dducko> kevogod, yeah, but some things are much easier to find in that guide.
[05:41] <SuseUX> I'm known by SuseUX
[05:41] <SuseUX> thats all
[05:41] <adriyel> Xenguy, don't we usually redirect them at this point to #slackware? or perhaps /dev/null if we don't like them?
[05:41] <Xenguy> hehe
[05:42] <adriyel> seriously, theres 561 (l)users in here, we don't need other distro's users too...
[05:42] <SuseUX> who cares?
[05:42] <adriyel> its just odd.
[05:43] <Xenguy> SuseUX: well actually there are some people who do -- I've seen it
[05:43] <dducko> Least they know where to come to get help.
[05:43] <adriyel> !my_sanity
[05:43] <ubotu> adriyel: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:43] <adriyel> thought so.
[05:43] <SuseUX> Xenguy, thats there problem not mine
[05:44] <Xenguy> SuseUX: hahah, yes and the universe revolves around your left nostril too :-)
[05:44] <adriyel> btw, notice to all users, if terminal isn't starting up and you've recently edited/created/deleted terminal profiles, close all terms and reopen accordingly because it starts crashing after you've edited profiles without closing all of them afterwards
[05:44] <SuseUX> i'm just asking a question in the end about ubuntu
[05:45] <SuseUX> :-)
[05:45] <dducko> HHGTTG?
[05:45] <adriyel> SuseUX, actually I came in here under the distro "Blag 30k1" and one of the helpers here tried to lead a crusade/lynch mob after me because I wasn't using ubuntu at that immediate second, so yes indeed, some people do care
[05:45] <dducko> Hungry Hippos got to taste good?
[05:45] <_native_> i want to have gnome-terminal start in fullscreen mode but don't know what geomtry to option to use.
[05:45] <Xenguy> dducko: Hitchhikers Guide to ...
[05:45] <dducko> Ahh.. yeah
[05:45] <adriyel> Xenguy, I love Hitchhikers, and I understood the acronym
[05:45] <adriyel> insensitive clod.
[05:45] <dducko> heh.. I need to watch/read
[05:46] <SuseUX> adriyel, thats why I keep the name, so Linux people will get over it
[05:46] <i3dmaster> Is it necessary to keep apmd on while also having acpid and acpi-support there too?
[05:46] <Xenguy> I think I'll read the book now
[05:46] <adriyel> _native_, you want gnome-terminal in full screen? try hitting this key combo: ctrl-alt-F2
[05:46] <adriyel> *snickers*
[05:47] <adriyel> ...
[05:47] <WindowsXP> hows that?
[05:47] <adriyel> thats just wrong man.
[05:47] <Xenguy> hehe
[05:47] <dducko> Anyone know if Blank got everything figured how?
[05:47] <dducko> out*
[05:47] <adriyel> go die plz, kthx.
[05:47] <blackhat> windows xp get outta here
[05:47] <_native_> adriyel; yes i know i wanty the default startup in fullscreen
[05:47] <blackhat> xp sucks!
[05:47] <adriyel> _native_, set the geometry to your resolution
[05:48] <Debian> ?
[05:48] <Xenguy> WindowsXP: this strategy will only work as long as you are amusing enough not to be /ignored ;-)
[05:48] <adriyel> note to self, edit the cron daemon to rm -rf /dev/WindowsXP immediately
[05:48] <Debian> thats better :-)
[05:48] <adriyel> Debian, the motherland!
[05:48] <adriyel> lol.
[05:48] <_native_> ahh so just gnome-terminal --geometry=1024x768.
[05:48] <adriyel> Debian is the progenitor of like 42436 different distro's.
[05:48] <adriyel> _native_, I would guess so, but why do you want to make a windowed terminal fullscreen?
[05:48] <adriyel> SuseUX, just so you know, I dislike SuSE for what they did to multimedia support.
[05:48] <Juhaz> _native_, how about gnome-terminal --full-screen
[05:48] <adriyel> Juhaz, show off.
[05:49] <adriyel> why am I listening to classical music with organs?
[05:49] <SuseUX> adriyel, yer, I've heard it all before, it's not there fault
[05:49] <_native_> judaz ahh so that option was ommitted from the man page.
[05:49] <dducko> Its good stuff.
[05:50] <adriyel> SuseUX, actually it is their fault. They took purposeful measures to make it nigh impossible to install support for mp3/dvd, whereas Ubuntu merely didn't include it
[05:50] <dducko> i have www.pandora.com running.. some weird combos of music
[05:50] <jburd> _native_, try   gnome-terminal --help
[05:50] <adriyel> they stripped out support for non-open codecs on a SOURCE level SuseUX, so that people would have to buy their commercial product, which is bullsh!t
[05:50] <SuseUX> adriyel, SuSE is german and they have patent laws about dvd encryption
[05:50] <Juhaz> _native_, seems to work rather erratically, though
[05:50] <adriyel> SuseUX, the US has the same laws.
[05:50] <SuseUX> and decryption
[05:51] <paullywaully> how do you get channel lists  for  servers
[05:51] <adriyel> SuseUX, its irrelevant, Ubuntu is under the same restrictions, the difference is the measures they took to be legal
[05:51] <dducko> paullywaully, /list
[05:51] <_native_> yeah i thought that it would be just that simple and was confused as to why there was no --full-screen option listed in the man page.
[05:51] <SuseUX> who give a shit it's only two packages anyway
[05:51] <adriyel> SuseUX, Ubuntu merely didn't include them out of respect for the law, but they didn't purpose strip out support from the source to make it impossible to install support
[05:51] <Ophiocus> while were on the subject may i say: evangelising people to use ubuntu; insert a cd in your drive, and let them see the glory of sound juicer show the actual song name and author
[05:51] <adriyel> SuseUX, they did it to force people to buy their commercial product, there is no reason for them to do that
[05:51] <SuseUX> ubuntu dont supply mp3 by deafult becuas eof that same thing
[05:51] <adriyel> SuseUX, you aren't listening, and I'm getting annoyed
[05:52] <Agrajag> adriyel: does sue provide a compiler?
[05:52] <Agrajag> er, suse
[05:52] <dducko> But you can get it within a few moments
[05:52] <SuseUX> yer talkng BS
[05:52] <adriyel> SuseUX, all you need to do is install the package yourself, no problem, if you're in ubuntu, thats still legal
[05:52] <dducko> And not in a country where it is illegal
[05:53] <dducko> Like the US....
[05:53] <_native_> damn --full-screen does not work at all not even close
[05:53] <adriyel> SuseUX, in suse, it doesn't work that way, they compiled all the apps to disable support for those codecs, seriously man, go on google and do a little reading, educate yourself
[05:53] <Tired_> Hello.  Is there a decent tool for diagnosing faulty hardware in the Ubuntu repositories?
[05:53] <adriyel> dducko, actually, I am in the US, and my ubuntu has dvd and mp3 support. law be damned in that respect, draconian POS's.
[05:53] <SuseUX> get a life and look at packman website and get media support
[05:53] <dylan_> does anybody know if gnome or kde is faster?
[05:53] <dducko> so am I and so does mine
[05:54] <adriyel> SuseUX, lol, and thats a 3rd party website, and it requires a bit of work to get everything working
[05:54] <adriyel> SuseUX, SuSE made it difficult, on...purpose.
[05:54] <adriyel> sorry, but, I'll drop the whole thing and stick with ubby.
[05:54] <SuseUX> hwho cares when I ran SuSE it was no problem
[05:54] <_native_> whats all this suse talk. ;-] 
[05:55] <dducko> Yeah,, get back on the stuff that matters, right Ubotu
[05:55] <adriyel> _native_, I hate Novell's business practices, thats all
[05:55] <SuseUX> adriyel, your attitude gives Linux a bad name
[05:55] <Ep|phany> when im trying to use vncviewer and i type the ip it tells me in terminal VNC server supports protocol version 4.0 (viewer 3.3)
[05:55] <Ep|phany> VNC connection failed: No supported security type for 3.3 client
[05:55] <Ep|phany> is there anyway around that?
[05:55] <dducko> Update your windows software?
[05:55] <adriyel> SuseUX, your ignorance of how difficult measures that must be taken on Suse to get non-open formats working is why people still wonder why Linux hasn't dominated the desktop
[05:55] <Tired_> I came home today to my computer rather fervently trashing the hard drive, so no logs, and I'd like to know why it did that before I install a new OS.
[05:55] <adriyel> Tired_, huh?
[05:56] <Tired_> yes, that was roughly my reaction
[05:56] <adriyel> specifics?
[05:56] <SuseUX> adriyel, Why did you bring me into this pointless conversation?, I DONT USE SUSE
[05:56] <dducko> Ep|phany, have you updated the software on your windows box?
[05:56] <SuseUX> so STFU
[05:56] <adriyel> I don't remember how it started, drop it.
[05:57] <_native_> SuseUX; its because suse is not a real open source distro they include proprietary stuff. ubuntu is real about things and offers a true open-source platform if you want mp3 just install the libmad0 lib its that simple.
[05:57] <adriyel> SuseUX, ack, thats the limit, not shut the hell up, now. drop it
[05:57] <Ophiocus> SuseUX, theres something about your nick, i dont know what, that kinda leads one to a wrong way
[05:57] <Tired_> i have none.  when i left it was fine, when I came back, there was a blank screen and a loud noise from the hard drive.  i cycled power, and it wouldn't boot past the bios.  when i used a live cd, there was no data on the hard drive.
[05:57] <SuseUX> amazing
[05:57] <adriyel> Tired_, were you using Ubuntu?
[05:57] <SuseUX> I used ubuntu my uncle uses it, satified?
[05:57] <adriyel> that was a serious question
[05:57] <Tired_> no.  i'm looking for an Ubuntu-based method of diagnosing the hardware failure involved
[05:58] <Aven> fuck, man :((
[05:58] <adriyel> Tired_, what operating system was it?
[05:58] <solidgroove> ow
[05:58] <Xenguy> Tired_: I assume your hard-drive is toast -- what of it, hardware fails sometimes
[05:58] <adriyel> Tired_, if the answer to my question is a negative, telling me what the OS actually *is* is generally helpful
[05:58] <adriyel> Xenguy, hold on.
[05:58] <SuseUX> adriyel, your a serious fanboy
[05:59] <adriyel> the Ubuntu live-cd as great as it is, is intended as a tool of evangelism, not system recovery
[05:59] <Ophiocus> samsung drive will go beserk after two month running with over 70% of space used
[05:59] <adriyel> SuseUX, your grammar sucks.
[05:59] <_native_> ubuntu can do everthing ubuntu can do if you have a problem its a simple fact of either installing software of configuration error by the admin.
[05:59] <Tired_> i had been experiencing other less dramatic glitches with the video card and the power supply...i strongly suspect hardware issues, but I want to rule that out before I invest a lot of effort on a new install
[05:59] <adriyel> shut up kid, drop it now
[05:59] <frontovik> hi does ubuntu cd contain lesstif?
[05:59] <adriyel> Tired_, ffs, WHAT OPERATING SYSTEM?
[05:59] <_native_> duh omg *suse
[05:59] <dabaR> SuseUX: please stop speaking to adriyel your conversation is over,. both of you.
[05:59] <_native_> :-P
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[05:59] <adriyel> dabaR, I asked him to do that earlier *scowls*
[05:59] <Aven> huh?
[05:59] <_native_> i was not paying attention to what i was typing.
[05:59] <Tired_> adrigel, windows XP
[05:59] <dabaR> Aven: do not swear in the channel please.
[05:59] <JaMiNkLe> what file system does ubuntu use??
[05:59] <Grug> i love xp... but ubuntu is pretty nice
[05:59] <crimsun> JaMiNkLe: by default ext3
[06:00] <Aven> dabaR, what was that link about though?
[06:00] <dabaR> JaMiNkLe: many different ones can be used.
[06:00] <silversurfer> ubuntu owns xp
[06:00] <SuseUX> he's a arse, just because he see a person with a name other than ubuntu is sets the small minded troll off
[06:00] <_native_> ubuntu is first class.
[06:00] <dabaR> Aven: so you can know about ubuntu community conduct.
[06:00] <Tired_> exactly why I didn't want to bring it up.
[06:00] <Grug> not in my opinion, but ok :)
[06:00] <Aven> oh ok
[06:00] <adriyel> Tired_, is it possible that the WindowsXP machine got raped by a virus/hax0r?
[06:00] <dducko> Grug, I was xp for liek 2 years, went Ubuntu cold turkey.. best thing I ever did
[06:00] <Tired_> sure, but i'd like to rule out hardware failure before assuming that
[06:00] <_native_> locally i have been promoting it to the local news stations.
[06:00] <adriyel> dducko, dual-booter. /dev/sda for stability,  /dev/sdb for experimentation
[06:01] <Tired_> since it also had issues when gentoo was installed
[06:01] <Grug> ubuntu is good for being free
[06:01] <caonex> anybody using latest fglrx ati drivers?
[06:01] <adriyel> Tired_, there really isn't anyway to go about this, other than running bonnie++ or hdparm from a livecd, than to just try installing an operating system and seeing what happens
[06:01] <Weirdbro> I need help creating a bootable cd
[06:01] <Weirdbro> I downloaded the cd
[06:02] <frontovik> anybody using lesstif in ubuntu?
[06:02] <Tired_> so there's no cpu frequency testers, motherboard sensor monitoring programs, etc?
[06:02] <intelikey> small minded troll ??????   what did i miss?   some one call me?
[06:02] <Weirdbro> but now it tells me I need a floppy drive
[06:02] <dducko> adriyel, well I didnt do it on purpose, i tried another distro (aLinux) that wiped my windows partion without asking.  So i tossed that cd and installed Ubuntu
[06:02] <adriyel> Weirdbro, did you burn the iso ONTO the disc, or did you burn the disc from the iso?
[06:02] <adriyel> dducko, heh, aLinux sucks.
[06:02] <_native_> Weirdbro; use gnome-baker its in universe repos and click burn image.
[06:02] <adriyel> dducko, the dev's of that distro are somewhat arrogant though
[06:02] <Weirdbro> My burner has a make bootablew option
[06:03] <dabaR> Weirdbro: what program did you burn it in?
[06:03] <adriyel> Weirdbro, what operating system are you in?
[06:03] <Weirdbro> but is there any way to boot from a disk without a floppy drive?
[06:03] <Grug> i wish ubuntu (linux) had a lot better looking fonts and layout... looks messy compared to xp...
[06:03] <adriyel> Weirdbro, yes there is
[06:03] <stevejesus> oh dear, whats uo guys
[06:03] <stevejesus> your gonna love this one
[06:03] <dabaR> Weirdbro: yes, you do not need a floppy drive at all.
[06:03] <Tired_> or even something i can leave running overnight to produce logs of the voltage over time and under load?
[06:03] <adriyel> Grug, after theming my ubuntu up it looks beautiful
[06:03] <Weirdbro> Ok
[06:03] <stevejesus> my ubuntu box has spyware
[06:03] <adriyel> stevejesus, is that possible?
[06:03] <Grug> but not having to 'activate' ubuntu ROCKS
[06:03] <frontovik> lesstif anyone using?
[06:03] <_native_> stevejesus; how?
[06:03] <Xenguy> stevejesus: ?
[06:03] <dducko> adriyel, I was still learning.. heh. I had just spent a day in a command line with Gentoo,  got a Xserver up and running... decided i didnt want to wait 24 hours for Gnome to compile..
[06:03] <adriyel> stevejesus, seriously?
[06:03] <Ophiocus> stevejesus, stop getting into pr0n sites
[06:03] <_native_> stevejesus; how do you know that?
[06:03] <stevejesus> well you tell me let me tell you what happens
[06:03] <Weirdbro> so, how do I?
[06:03] <adriyel> stevejesus, jesus says pr0n is bad for you...so are crack-kiddy sites.
[06:04] <Grug> how to theme ubuntu?
[06:04] <dabaR> Weirdbro: what program are yo using for burning the cd?
[06:04] <Madpilot> Grug: System menu - Prefs - Theme
[06:04] <frontovik> jeez ..thanks everyone!
[06:04] <Weirdbro> recordNow
[06:04] <adriyel> Grug, download tar.gz files from www.gnome-look.org and install from System Menu - Prefs - Theme
[06:04] <adriyel> my ubuntu is freaking beautiful
[06:04] <Weirdbro> Its what came on my stupid windows comp
[06:04] <Madpilot> frontovik: what is lesstif?
[06:04] <Grug> ok i'm gonna try that... this current look is downright toyish looking
[06:04] <adriyel> Grug, yeah, mines purdy.
[06:04] <stevejesus> i load up firefox 1.07 and i get this "webseek" page.  when i go to the firefox properties page there is no new homepage setting.  i try to set it to about:blank and i"webseek" is still me home page!
[06:05] <Madpilot> !tell Grug about themese
[06:05] <adriyel> good luck Grug
[06:05] <Madpilot> !tell Grug about themes
[06:05] <dabaR> Weirdbro: what program, we cant tell you how if we do not know with what<-
[06:05] <Grug> these fonts look fuzzy, large and ugly compared to XPs...
[06:05] <adriyel> lol @ maddy.
[06:05] <_native_> stevejesus; why do you think you have spyware?
[06:05] <Grug> ok i'm gonna THEME away :)
[06:05] <adriyel> _native_, a good question, but I blame the pr0n
[06:05] <Tired_> wow, that's a rather large hole for enterprise sysadmins...how do they test their server hardware?
[06:05] <stevejesus> because i cant change the homepage.  it has affected firefox somehow
[06:05] <Madpilot> adriyel: let he who never makes a typo cast the first keyboard! ;)
[06:05] <Weirdbro> I said, RecordNow
[06:05] <stevejesus> im not sure how.  must be java spyware
[06:05] <Ron_o> Grug, if you're worried about the frontend, maybe you should stick to what you know best.
[06:05] <adriyel> Grug, changing out fonts from preferences might help as well. I think you can make use of windows fonts if you have them available somewhere
[06:05] <Tired_> overclockers must be awfully disappointed, too
[06:05] <Ron_o> Theming is the simplest part of any OS.
[06:06] <dabaR> Tired_: haha, enterprise sysadmins dont test hardware, they replace it.
[06:06] <stevejesus> i just cant believe
[06:06] <adriyel> Madpilot, *chucks the scroll lock key at you* never needed the thing anyways.
[06:06] <intelikey> steve does it goto about blank when you click home ?
[06:06] <dabaR> stevejesus: bah. You dont have spyware. period.
[06:06] <adriyel> dabaR, indeed. zero risk only.
[06:06] <Madpilot> adriyel: :) ... what *is* a Scroll Lock key good for, anyway?
[06:07] <adriyel> stevejesus, omg, you do not have spyware.
[06:07] <Weirdbro> so, any advice?
[06:07] <stevejesus> yes it does go back to about:blank when i click home
[06:07] <adriyel> Madpilot, been looking for years, never found out why. its like an appendix or a wisdom tooth
[06:07] <Ron_o> the thing that made me laugh the most about the ubuntu reviews, was so many people complained about the wallpaper.
[06:07] <dabaR> stevejesus: what did you install that you think would have spyware? did you install anything not ubuntu?
[06:07] <adriyel> Madpilot, maybe some ancient IBM/Mainframe hacker knows...
[06:07] <stevejesus> but when i launch i still get this "webseek"
[06:07] <adriyel> some old guy with cobwebs in his ears
[06:07] <_native_> stevejesus; thats not spyware its newbie paranoia.
[06:07] <Tired_> if a sysadmin bought a new $2000 workstation every time it panicked, he'd be fired
[06:07] <ahoora> hi
[06:07] <ahoora> how can i install g++ ?
[06:07] <dabaR> !be
[06:07] <adriyel> Tired_, no, but if he thought the hard drive was questionable, he'd just throw the old one out and buy a new one
[06:07] <ubotu> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:07] <dabaR> ahoora: ^ ubotu
[06:07] <adriyel> Tired_, ditto for ram. you can't risk more hardware with risky hardware
[06:07] <Madpilot> adriyel: heh... the sort who hang out on Usenet's comp.sysadmin.fossils :)
[06:08] <stevejesus> i have crossover office 5.0 but i dont have anything programs that didnt come directly from CD with the exception of noteworthy composer.  but i installed that 2 weeks ago
[06:08] <ahoora> thnx
[06:08] <adriyel> Madpilot, prolly. should we raid them for info?
[06:08] <Weirdbro> so, I have RecordNow, no floppy drive, how do I burn the .iso to the cd and boot it?
[06:08] <Tired_> what if he didn't know what to question?
[06:08] <intelikey> steve then maybe you have it set to open the last page you visited upon startup.......
[06:08] <stevejesus> i have crossover 5.0 solely for running noteworthy composer.  and that install file has been setting on my personal file server for months
[06:08] <adriyel> does anyone else have transparency enabled in XChat?
[06:08] <adriyel> or their terminals?
[06:08] <dabaR> Tired_: his answer is misleading. backups.
[06:08] <tritium> adriyel, sometimes, why?
[06:08] <stevejesus> as a matter of fact i have been using that exact installer for more than 2 years!
[06:08] <dducko> I do soemtimes.. not terminals
[06:08] <stevejesus> spywaree!
[06:09] <adriyel> intelikey, indeed.
[06:09] <hit3k> close
[06:09] <adriyel> dducko, its purdy, because my background has a sky in it
[06:09] <dducko> http://www.myimagehub.com/files/603/desktop1.png
[06:09] <Madpilot> adriyel: in my Terminal, yeah
[06:09] <Weirdbro> So, can anyone help me?
[06:09] <adriyel> dducko, I feel like God...sings, "terminal in the skyyyyyyyyy"
[06:09] <fatehaze> I'm gonna dual-boot Ubuntu and OSX on my powerbook, do I need to completely reformat?
[06:09] <dducko> *rolls eyes*
[06:09] <adriyel> dducko, its like the terminal that commands the world :D :D
[06:09] <fatehaze> Or can I just make a partition for Ubuntu from free disk space?
[06:09] <dabaR> Weirdbro: burn as image, a disk image. and set bios to boot from cd, and then reboot.
[06:10] <Amaranth> !mac
[06:10] <ubotu> No idea, Amaranth
[06:10] <adriyel> fatehaze, nah, you should be able to resize it...(right guys?)
[06:10] <Amaranth> hrm
[06:10] <Weirdbro> ok
[06:10] <stevejesus> fatehaze:  yes.  i dont know of any non-destructive partitioners for apple
[06:10] <_native_> stevejesus; all i can say is if your concerded about security there is plenty of info about securing linux to enterprise level standards.
[06:10] <dabaR> Amaranth: macusers has something.
[06:10] <fatehaze> Can I do that from the Ubuntu installer?
[06:10] <adriyel> fatehaze, I stand corrected.
[06:10] <Tired_> actually my question was misleading.  let me be blunt.  is there any way at all, usin tools available in the ubuntu repositories, to record temperatures, voltagelevels and other data, under load, for an extended period of time, like memtest86 can do for ram?
[06:10] <Weirdbro> Recordnow won't let me brun as image without having a floppy to put boot data on
[06:10] <Amaranth> !macusers
[06:10] <ubotu> Amaranth: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:10] <Madpilot> Weirdbro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[06:10] <fatehaze> stevejesus: that seemed to be the general consensus, thanks for the confirmation :)
[06:10] <Amaranth> *cough*
[06:10] <Weirdbro> Thanks
[06:10] <dabaR> Amaranth: or not...browse the !list
[06:10] <adriyel> _native_, enterprise LINUX level standards....windows enterprise standards are a little different...(cough)
[06:11] <stevejesus> fatehaze:  if you ever have any apple linux questions then ask away.
[06:11] <_native_> adriyel; yeah
[06:11] <_native_> ;-] 
[06:11] <tritium> fatehaze, the installer can resize existing partitions, although I'm not familiar with the PPC installer
[06:11] <ahoora> and how can i fix g++ include libraries
[06:11] <ahoora> ?
[06:11] <stevejesus> fatehaze:  or apple questions in general
[06:11] <SSJiffy> hello
[06:11] <adriyel> _native_, personally, if I wanted a maximum of security, I'd either install OpenBSD or unplug the cord.
[06:11] <dabaR> ahoora: that is completely unspecific, and unanswerable
[06:11] <tritium> ahoora, what do you mean by fix?
[06:11] <Amaranth> dabaR: I tend to use the bot as little as possible. Someone else can find it.
[06:11] <adriyel> _native_, otherwise, just do some basic maintenance/config stuff on Linux
[06:11] <intelikey> steve also riding your box of "spyware" if it is there should be as simple as rm -rf /home/blah     and restart.
[06:12] <dabaR> Amaranth: I thought you wanted it
[06:12] <SSJiffy> Hello
[06:12] <stevejesus> this is definitely java spyware.  i read about this somewhere or another a few months back.
[06:12] <Amaranth> dabaR: nope, someone else
[06:12] <adriyel> _native_, typically, security, isn't something I need to ever ever ever worry about on Linux, its like asking people how to secure MacOS X on a desktop machine...why bother?
[06:12] <Grug> hmmm... well the themes are pretty much all the same...
[06:12] <SSJiffy> My GRUB install is freaking out on me.
[06:12] <Grug> guess i'll try to download some
[06:12] <_native_> adriyel; linux can be more secure than openbsd theses days.
[06:12] <ahoora> tritium :| in the first days of using linux i overwrited include libraries .h files with windows files
[06:12] <SSJiffy> It's all blurred and won't boot windows.
[06:12] <Agrajag> stevejesus: so back up your bookmarks and wipe out your firefox profile
[06:12] <ahoora> so now i can not do anything with g++
[06:12] <SSJiffy> it says error.
[06:12] <tritium> ahoora, apt-get has a --reinstall option
[06:12] <stevejesus> i think to confirm i will take my entire firefox history for the day and load all the pages in osx firefox via an automater script
[06:12] <adriyel> _native_, that so? mv /etc/rc.d/* /dev/null <--- is that how? lol :P
[06:12] <SSJiffy> Anyone know how to fix grub?
[06:12] <dabaR> intelikey: I must say that is the worst advice I heard in a while
[06:13] <tritium> ahoora, use it to reinstall those files that you've overwritten
[06:13] <ahoora> tritium doesn't help
[06:13] <Madpilot> Grug: did you get that msg from ubotu w/ all the URLs for themes?
[06:13] <tritium> ahoora, how can it not help?
[06:13] <fatehaze> My other question is, is dual-booting Ubuntu and OSX even a good idea?  Any weirdness I should know about?
[06:13] <dabaR> adriyel: dont say that in a newb channel
[06:13] <intelikey> thank you dabaR :)
[06:13] <adriyel> dabaR, sorry.
[06:13] <Grug> yeah, thanks ubotu for the URLs
[06:13] <Amaranth> intelikey: Please don't tell people to break their computers.
[06:13] <Grug> gonna try
[06:13] <tritium> Grug, ubotu is a bot :)
[06:13] <stevejesus> i ahve flippin spyware in ubuntu.  lol.
[06:13] <adriyel> dabaR, I did address _native_ directly though. one would assume a person wouldn't just execute a random cmd...
[06:13] <dabaR> SSJiffy: fix it how? be specific wehat you want and what you dont have
[06:13] <stevejesus> osx will verify this
[06:13] <adriyel> dabaR, but then again
[06:13] <tritium> stevejesus, no way, dude...
[06:13] <dducko> *shakes head*
[06:14] <intelikey> like that will break anything.......   come on....
[06:14] <ahoora> tritium it doesn't fix libraries .. i asked someone here gave me the right command to fix libraries but after that there are some mismatch with another libraries lol
[06:14] <adriyel> quoth, "one does not simply ssh into mordor"
[06:14] <dducko> Im gonna go play some NWN, Yall have fun.
[06:14] <dducko> lmao
[06:14] <intelikey> cleaning out your home dir doesn't break your computer....
[06:14] <tritium> ahoora, then you don't have a full grasp of which files you overwrote
[06:14] <Amaranth> intelikey: Things don't start if they can't create files in your $HOME.
[06:14] <dabaR> ahoora: are you compiling something and its not compiling?
[06:14] <SSJiffy> My friend tried to install ubuntu with grub, dabaR
[06:14] <stevejesus> tritium:  i am about to back up my history and load it into osx firefox and see if i get java spy ware there too
[06:14] <tritium> ahoora, if you reinstall every package which contains files that were overwritten, you'd restore it
[06:14] <ahoora> davaR yes it gives too many errors
[06:14] <adriyel> Amaranth, did someone just lock themselves out of $HOME or something?
[06:14] <Grug> ubotu is a bot?  lol
[06:14] <ubotu> Grug: What?
[06:14] <_native_> adriyel; why bother uh because its needed. thats a common misconception but i tell you as a greyhat my self the first thing i would do is attack defenceless desktops then spread to more important targets using the cracked desktops.
[06:14] <adriyel> Grug, yes, ubotu is a bot
[06:14] <intelikey> Amaranth but removing every thing in your home doesn't cause that
[06:14] <pavelich> how do you find where all your programs that are installed but not in your menus are
[06:14] <Grug> fooled me i guess
[06:15] <Grug> heh
[06:15] <Amaranth> adriyel: No, intelikey was telling someone to rm /home/blah
[06:15] <Grug> <- LinuxN00b
[06:15] <dabaR> tritium are you at all getting what he is trying to fix "libraries" for:)?
[06:15] <tritium> stevejesus, lol
[06:15] <Amaranth> intelikey: rm -rf /home/blah/* != rm -rf /home/blah
[06:15] <SSJiffy> dabaR: GRUB has Windows XP listed, but when we select it, it doesnt boot it just says 'error 12'
[06:15] <adriyel> _native_, I've done my own pen-testing and actions thereof
[06:15] <tritium> dabaR, nope.  What did I miss?  :)
[06:15] <dabaR> SSJiffy: does he have one hard drive?
[06:15] <ahoora> how can i find the appropriate package??
[06:15] <SSJiffy> dabaR: it's only one hard drive
[06:15] <dabaR> tritium: he is trying to compile something, and it gives him errors.
[06:15] <dabaR> SSJiffy: is he online? are you at that computer?
[06:15] <SSJiffy> dabaR: windows partition and ubuntu
[06:15] <adriyel> _native_, in my experience, most openbsd admins are very very much so more paranoid than Linux users, and tend to leave far fewer items running and such, leaving me fewer opportunities
[06:15] <stevejesus> tritium:   making the automater script now...
[06:15] <adriyel> but I didn't say that, did I channel?
[06:16] <intelikey> now if you also remover the home/dir it would but i didn't say that.... or atleast didn't mean that Amaranth
[06:16] <SSJiffy> dabaR: im using the very computer, he isnt here anymore
[06:16] <dabaR> ahoora: it would help to paste the error to paste.ubuntulinux.nl or tell us what you are compiling, and what libs are missing.
[06:16] <tritium> ahoora, don't overwrite system files.  It breaks things
[06:16] <adriyel> tritium, that had to be said?
[06:16] <ahoora> actually now i moved all troublesome libraries and started re-installing again i hope it works :|
[06:16] <Amaranth> intelikey: Anyway, for most users losing all of their settings and data is the same as the computer not working so it's still bad advice.
[06:16] <tritium> adriyel, he did it, didn't he?
[06:16] <adriyel> *sighs* I suppose so...
[06:16] <_native_> adriyel; no openbsd has nothing running by default its not the fault of linux its the fault of bad default configurations.
[06:17] <stevejesus> tritium:   automater script running...
[06:17] <tritium> stevejesus, honestly, I don't need the play-by-play ;)
[06:17] <adriyel> _native_, *nods* openbsd is a good deal more strict about what goes into a release than 90% of the linux distro's out there as well
[06:17] <ahoora> i want to fix everything in  /usr/include/c++/3.3/
[06:18] <Amaranth> adriyel: And OpenBSD will never be used on a regular desktop.
[06:18] <adriyel> _native_, to be honest, the only distro's I'd trust to be of the same stability/caliber in that respect would prolly be debian/slackware with SELinux Kernel
[06:18] <dabaR> SSJiffy: well, post the outputs of "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst" and "sudo fdisk -l" from a terminal to the paste.ubuntulinux.nl web site.
[06:18] <Grug> you know, i think XP is a better OS.  But, I *love* ubuntu so far because it's free.  And i like the community - more exciting
[06:18] <adriyel> Amaranth, typically, yes. unless you get as bored as I do
[06:18] <_native_> adriyel; yes thats the problem we need better default configs on release.
[06:18] <intelikey> loosing personalization settings = worse than having unwanted spyware.......   hmmmm   i'll make a note of that....
[06:18] <Amaranth> adriyel: Plus, good linux server distros don't install anything more than enough to login and get new stuff so it's just as secure. :)
[06:18] <tritium> Grug, better in some things, but not in others.  Each has its strenghts/weaknesses
[06:18] <ahoora> tritium i did it lol .. a beginner must suffer his mistakes to learn
[06:18] <Amaranth> intelikey: Losing all of your data as well.
[06:19] <ahoora> dabaR: i want to fix everything in this folder /usr/include/c++/3.3/ :|
[06:19] <stevejesus> script finished.  and yes, i now have spyware in osx
[06:19] <Amaranth> intelikey: I'd rather have spyware (which doesn't really exist for linux anyway) than lose my files.
[06:19] <_native_> adriyel; instead of leaving the responsibility to less qualified admins to disable and conigure everthing.
[06:19] <tritium> ahoora, indeed.  dpkg -S <path/to/file> can help you figure out what packages own files
[06:19] <ahoora> oh thanks :)
[06:19] <nyx> hi what is the difference between the Ubuntu DVD iso and the regular CD iso ??
[06:19] <adriyel> Amaranth, ah yes, but you don't understand. It's the code thats the key, how strenously somethings been checked (the source) for possible exploits and how much stability testing its recieved is the key here. disabling a bunch of services on windows doesn't necessarily make it secure
[06:19] <ahoora> a very useful command for me
[06:19] <dabaR> ahoora: you are being unspecific. there is nothing to fix there. Tell me what you are compiling, and paste what I told you to the web site I told you about.
[06:20] <dabaR> nyx: does the web site not say?
[06:20] <Grug> i love the fact that i can install ubuntu on as many machines as i choose
[06:20] <stevejesus> ok, just disabled java in ubuntu firefox.  problem gone.
[06:20] <pavelich> is it possible to develop c++ programs and test and run them as if you were running windows, i am new to linux and i am in my first computer science class and need a way to test and run these programs as if it was on windows, sorry i am new to linux and just need some help, does WINE have a psuedo-dos terminal, or am i screwed alltogether, someone please help!!!
[06:20] <Amaranth> adriyel: Sure, but since OpenBSD is checking open source software you can take any patches they've made and use them on your own.
[06:20] <adriyel> Amaranth, how the majority of remote exploits occur is a poorly coded input buffer that allows you to redirect the flow of execution into something that spawns a shell, if you're running bad code, it doesn't matter what services you're running necessarily, at that point you're either off the internet, or you're unsafe
[06:20] <intelikey> Amaranth you assume they all have new data stored in ther home dir and not backed up .... i assume that they have all important data in a safe place not on the same partition as the system......    maybe we are both wrong...
[06:20] <stevejesus> now i just need to find this thing... must be lying around in my homedir...
[06:20] <adriyel> Amaranth, Unix is not necessarily Linux :P
[06:20] <nyx> dabar: no
[06:20] <Agrajag> stevejesus: $10 says it's in your firefox profile.
[06:20] <dabaR> pavelich: if you write source code that compiles in linux, it will compile in windows as well.
[06:21] <Amaranth> adriyel: OpenBSD is not necessarily anything else. :P
[06:21] <adriyel> Agrajag, $10 says a change in edit - prefs will fix this
[06:21] <Grug> i have so much to learn... sigh
[06:21] <Agrajag> Grab your bookmarks.html file out and whatever else you need and wipe the rest
[06:21] <Amaranth> adriyel: But for the most part things are portable at the source level.
[06:21] <Agrajag> adriyel: possibly
[06:21] <stevejesus> Agrajag:  wont take that bet becuase i bet your right:)
[06:21] <pavelich> dabaR: what is the best way to do that?
[06:21] <tritium> Grug, ah, but learning is fun and stimulating
[06:21] <_native_> adriyel; may we should go offtopic to continue the conversation pertaining to security.
[06:21] <adriyel> Amaranth, *cringes* you've never seen the process of porting code from Linux to FreeBSD have you?
[06:21] <adriyel> Amaranth, its not that bad, but there is work involved
[06:22] <adriyel> Amaranth, all of the ports on BSD have been customized/changed to work for BSD, changes in libs and such
[06:22] <dabaR> nyx: Ubuntu is distributed on two types of images described below. In addition, combination install/live DVDs are available from the CD image archive.
[06:22] <_native_> Amaranth; you too. lets go to the offtopic channel
[06:22] <adriyel> Amaranth, you can't just throw a patch at something
[06:22] <dabaR> pavelich: haev you ever written source code?
[06:22] <Amaranth> adriyel: Those are Linux apps taking advantage of Linux features.
[06:22] <Xenguy> If any OPs were around, the conversation would be directed to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:22] <Amaranth> adriyel: Porting the other way is easier.
[06:22] <adriyel> _native_, kubuntu or ubuntu offtopic?
[06:22] <JaMiNkLe> why is there no ubuntu ppc support chan?
[06:22] <regeya> indeed Xenguy.
[06:22] <_native_> ubuntu
[06:22] <Amaranth> Hi.
[06:22] <dabaR> JaMiNkLe: we know some things about it here.
[06:22] <dabaR> haha
[06:22] <ahoora> hehe i am doing mistake over mistake i think ... i started upgrading build-essential without verification
[06:23] <adriyel> Amaranth, porting unix to linux may be easier from a source perspective, but FreeBSD has a compatibility layer for Linux, so if you drop the source issue, the vice versa is easier at a binary level
[06:23] <regeya> and one of the OT people is an op.  nice.
[06:23] <dabaR> Xenguy: try !ops in private with ubuntu to learn who is an op.
[06:23] <JaMiNkLe> i just want something to do on it
[06:23] <pavelich> dabarR: well i am in my first semester using c++, and yes, i just am strictly used to using microsoft visual c
[06:23] <ahoora> tritium : are using breezy?
[06:23] <JaMiNkLe> it fucken sucks nothing is supported for ppc
[06:23] <dabaR> JaMiNkLe: do what on what?
[06:23] <adriyel> Amaranth, meet in #ubuntu-offtopic for security discussion
[06:23] <tritium> Xenguy, who says we're not around?
[06:23] <JaMiNkLe> dabaR anything
[06:23] <nyx> dabar: oh, so that  means the DVD is just the regular CDROM install *AND* Live cd combined?
[06:23] <tritium> JaMiNkLe, please watch your language
[06:23] <JaMiNkLe> anything cool
[06:23] <dabaR> JaMiNkLe: everything in fact is supported.
[06:23] <fr33mind> Hi.  Is there a way to force Gnome Terminal to open with a larger window? ;)  Each time I open terminal, I must ajust size...
[06:23] <dabaR> JaMiNkLe: too unspecific, do you see a common theme on the channel?
[06:23] <Amaranth> regeya: This is non-peak time, offtopic discussions usually are fine as long as they don't swamp the channel when lots of people are asking questions.
[06:24] <adriyel> dabaR, a completely unqualified and coarse statement from what I would assume to be a new user *sigh*
[06:24] <Xenguy> I guess you are not the same ops I saw just this afternoon clearing the off-topic conversations elsewhere like crazy ;-)
[06:24] <Amaranth> regeya: It depends on what the off-topic topic is though.
[06:24] <dabaR> nyx: read again, and tell me:P
[06:24] <adriyel> Xenguy, he's right, its 0:24am where I am
[06:24] <ahoora> dabaR : are you using breezy?
[06:24] <adriyel> LOL
[06:24] <dabaR> Xenguy: sometimes they do, its a judgement call.
[06:24] <tritium> ahoora, yes, I am
[06:24] <dabaR> ahoora: yes.
[06:24] <adriyel> Amaranth, you lost your ops son :D
[06:24] <Xenguy> Amaranth: IC - no worries
[06:24] <Amaranth> Xenguy: That's peak traffic from the US, the SNR is more important.
[06:24] <nyx> dabar: yes! \o/ :D
[06:24] <Amaranth> adriyel: I turned them off. :)
[06:24] <regeya> so what's your ppc problem JaMiNkLe?  I expect this to get lost in a flood of discussion about SNR
[06:24] <tritium> adriyel, he removed himself, silly
[06:24] <nyx> dabr: I _SEEEE_ the light now
[06:25] <stevejesus> a7|_a4g3.jar  was found in my .mozilla/extensions
[06:25] <dabaR> SSJiffy: as soon as you are ready...
[06:25] <pavelich> dabaR: well i am in my first semester using c++, and yes, i just am strictly used to using microsoft visual c++, i feel like a unintelligent newb idiot but are there any simple programs that are good?
[06:25] <adriyel> tritium, why?
[06:25] <fr33mind> and another one, is it possible to have an icon on the task bar to open with one click a terminal with ssh connexion to my server?  (I already have certificates installed)
[06:25] <tritium> adriyel, why what?
[06:25] <JaMiNkLe> nah i got no problems apart from some ibook g3 sleep bug i just carnt find anything to do if that makes sence
[06:25] <ahoora> is it suggested to beginners? is it as good as hoary ??
[06:25] <adriyel> pavelich, try sudo apt-get install anjuta in the console
[06:25] <tritium> ahoora, it's an improvement
[06:25] <adriyel> you might like it
[06:25] <mike8901> anyone know when the next batch of cd's are going out(roughly?)
[06:25] <adriyel> pavelich, be warned that your C++ class may involve win32 specific code, and that you might have to port it yourself
[06:25] <SSJiffy> dabaR: Nothing came up
[06:26] <dabaR> pavelich: dont feel like that. I understand your question better now. YOu want an IDE for .net development, well, sorry to say, no. You can check out mono(mono.org probably) but there is no .net for linux. Writing source code can be done in text editors.
[06:26] <stevejesus> Agrajag: a7|_a4g3.jar  was found in my .mozilla/extensions
[06:26] <Ep|phany> hmmmmmm
[06:26] <SSJiffy> dabaR: first command isnt recognized and the second listed my sda's
[06:26] <ahoora> dabaR: i am using c++ too my 2nd semester hah but apparently you know much better than me ;)
[06:26] <dabaR> fr33mind: task bar being the panel.
[06:26] <Agrajag> so was that it?
[06:27] <adriyel> I am in C++ my 3rd year of coding...no classes, all self-taught. :D
[06:27] <stevejesus> yup.  its fine now
[06:27] <dabaR> ahoora: no, I just know somet things about GNU/linux, and compiling software under it.
[06:27] <JaMiNkLe> does anyone else here have a ibook g3 cuz mine dosent come out of sleep when i open the lid
[06:27] <adriyel> dabaR, is mono any good?
[06:27] <stevejesus> Agrajag: just found the same .jar file in osx too
[06:27] <dabaR> SSJiffy: so paste them to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:27] <tritium> !cuz
[06:27] <ubotu> cuz is, like, totally, not a word
[06:27] <regeya> I must point out that mono is available for Windows, but it's not .net, not really.
[06:27] <regeya> not totally
[06:27] <adriyel> dabaR, I've never buggered with it, I'm a binutils/gcc/gdb/vi whore for life
[06:28] <dabaR> SSJiffy: also, cat /boot/grub/menu.lst has to show something, in fact, the file.
[06:28] <Grug> i love c#
[06:28] <Grug> and .net
[06:28] <Grug> i think i may contribute to mono
[06:28] <dabaR> adriyel: unfortunately, asking a question like is mono any good is a bad practice, so I wont answer it.
[06:28] <Amaranth> Grug: Make sure you learn more than one language though.
[06:29] <dabaR> JaMiNkLe: yes, nalioth has that laptop.
[06:29] <Amaranth> Grug: Otherwise you get locked into one language and one way of thinking.
[06:29] <Grug> oh yeah... i'm old school... first learned 6502 assembly and 6800 on a PDP-11
[06:29] <pavelich> dabaR: yeah thanks a bunch your a big help, so are there different forms of c++, as in different processes and ways to write the source code depending on the compiler, wouldnt that ruin the universiallity of a language
[06:29] <adriyel> dabaR, sigh. you're a grumpy bear Op, you know that?
[06:29] <Amaranth> damn
[06:29] <dabaR> im not an op
[06:29] <adriyel> dabaR, let me rephrase that question, how well does Mono accomplish what it was made to do?
[06:29] <adriyel> dabaR, you act like one :P
[06:29] <Grug> but c# is my favorite language so far
[06:30] <dabaR> adriyel: and the fact that I said anything shows I am not grumpy, cause I could have just ignored you.
[06:30] <pavelich> ahah dabar seems to be the man of the room here lol
[06:30] <Grug> C++ is next, then C :)
[06:30] <adriyel> dabaR, yipes.
[06:30] <adriyel> pavelich, not...quite.
[06:30] <Amaranth> adriyel: It reimplements the virtual machine and the API.
[06:30] <dabaR> pavelich: no, Im just always inspired around this time.
[06:30] <Amaranth> Grug: Ever used Python?
[06:30] <Grug> not yet amar
[06:30] <adriyel> Amaranth, does it actually do that, or do I have to dodge bugs/errors?
[06:30] <Grug> but i want to learn it
[06:30] <dabaR> adriyel: mono is a project in early development, with some very good results. read their page.
[06:31] <adriyel> indeed.
[06:31] <Amaranth> adriyel: If you use GTK# more or less.
[06:31] <Amaranth> adriyel: If you want to use the windows widgets it's less complete but getting better.
[06:31] <Amaranth> Of course GTK# apps look out of place on Windows and SWF apps look out of place on linux.
[06:32] <pavelich> anyone here work in the programming field and know good jobs or suggest a route in school?
[06:32] <pavelich> as in what to learn along the way?
[06:32] <tga> everything they teach you
[06:32] <adriyel> Amaranth, KDE apps look out of place on ubuntu too...point? :P is mono in the universe/multiverse repo?
[06:32] <Amaranth> Grug: Python will become your new favorite if you learn it. :)
[06:32] <Amaranth> adriyel: I believe it's in main.
[06:32] <dabaR> pavelich: basically, you can compile bear c++ code. Proprietary M$ libraries are not in question. Send me one of your programs through paste.ubuntulinux.nl, and I will tell you what you can do. Also, eclipse is a cool IDE, imo, and can do c++. "/j #c++" to join the C++ channel, and /j eclipse to join the eclipse channel.
[06:32] <dabaR> bare
[06:32] <Amaranth> adriyel: Try out beagle or tomboy to see a mono app in action.
[06:32] <dabaR> man. the bear thing got me off mark:)
[06:32] <adriyel> Grug, python is good, you should try it....perl is similar/older but its worth looking at
[06:33] <tritium> !info mono
[06:33] <ubotu> mono: (Mono CLI (.NET) runtime), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.1.8.3-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB
[06:33] <Amaranth> adriyel: Perl isn't similar. :P
[06:33] <pavelich> dabaR: thanks man
[06:33] <adriyel> dabaR, ?
[06:33] <dabaR> pavelich: good luck, and happy coding:) I read that somewhere.
[06:33] <Amaranth> tritium: ubotu doesn't tell you if it's in main
[06:33] <adriyel> pavelich, anjuta is a good C/C++ ide as well btw, you might consider it too
[06:33] <adriyel> Amaranth, similar purpose :P
[06:33] <tritium> Amaranth, it does indirectly
[06:33] <dabaR> adriyel: yaya, thank you.
[06:34] <Amaranth> tritium: How? "optional" doesn't tell you.
[06:34] <adriyel> dabaR, I don't care for eclipse (no idea why, maybe because its ugly on win32), but I like anjuta quite a bit
[06:34] <tritium> Amaranth, by not listing universe/multiverse, etc.
[06:34] <dabaR> by not saying where it is, it tells you where it is.
[06:34] <adriyel> I typically use all console stuff though...gcc/gdb/vi/nano though
[06:34] <SSJiffy> hello
[06:34] <Amaranth> !info blobwars
[06:35] <ubotu> blobwars: (platform shooting game), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 1.04-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 7369 kB, Installed size: 7848 kB
[06:35] <dabaR> adriyel: good good, that was a more c++ answer, I do java, so my was biased...
[06:35] <SSJiffy> how do I display my grub configuration?
[06:35] <Amaranth> ah, i see
[06:35] <tritium> SSJiffy, it's /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:35] <SSJiffy> kool, thx
[06:35] <dabaR> SSJiffy: open a terminal, and type sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:36] <dabaR> SSJiffy: that question decomposes to how do I display, and where is my grub configuration....
[06:36] <adriyel> dabaR, indeed. :P I dislike java btw, sorry.
[06:36] <adriyel> dabaR, I've tried it 3 times now, still can't stand it
[06:37] <SSJiffy> yeah i meant both
[06:37] <adriyel> dabaR, I can tell. I just, I dunno, I can't get over how the code looks
[06:37] <Amaranth> java is ok
[06:37] <adriyel> saying java is great because it works on all operating systems is like anal sex is great because it works on both genders...
[06:37] <crimsun> uhh
[06:37] <dabaR> haha, classic troll sentence
[06:37] <tritium> yeah, we've seen that exact comment before
[06:37] <Amaranth> *cough*
[06:37] <crimsun> that's way off topic.
[06:37] <tga> adriyel, har har, so funny
[06:37] <adriyel> wow
[06:37] <kevogod> adriyel, Well, isn't it?
[06:37] <adriyel> flurry of reponses from that one
[06:38] <Amaranth> whee i lag
[06:38] <drcode> hi all
[06:38] <Amaranth> windows updates suck :(
[06:38] <adriyel> I expected a comment from a famous site to grab that
[06:38] <pavelich> dabaR:  is there a standard command to open or run a tar.gz packaged file in the terminal, or are the commands exclusive the type of file it is or the operation being performed, are tar.gz files comparable to a .rar or .zip file or more like an executable .exe or am i way off
[06:38] <drcode> any one up
[06:38] <regeya> everything sucks.
[06:38] <adriyel> pavelich, tar -xzf ./file.tar.gz
[06:38] <tga> pavelich, a .tar.gz is a tar file compressed with gzip
[06:38] <dabaR> pavelich: an archive, that is the command to unpack it into its own folder.
[06:38] <caonex> i removed a modules manually, but when using modinfo modulename, it still looks for it. How can i delete that modules from the database?
[06:38] <dabaR> pavelich: man tar to understand the options.
[06:39] <dabaR> man tar being a command in a terminal
[06:39] <adriyel> pavelich, to clarify, a .tar is a tarball which is a way of bundling files into one file. it is not a method of compression, the .gz is the method of compression, occaisionally you'll see a tar.bz2, this is a bzip2 file, and is typically smaller than a gzip file
[06:40] <ian> Ive just installed Azureus from a tar bal. To launch the application i have to execute the shell script within the Azureus directory. How do I set up an icon in the Gnome start menu and associate all. torrent file to Azureus?
[06:40] <adriyel> the above is something that I wish would've been clarified when I was new
[06:40] <ian> ball
[06:40] <dabaR> tar does not use - thought for options IIRC
[06:40] <adriyel> dabaR, theres nothing against it doing so however
[06:40] <adriyel> I've used the "-" for years.
[06:40] <drcode> how can I zoom jpeg?
[06:40] <dabaR> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[06:40] <tga> there's no - on Solaris iirc
[06:40] <tritium> drcode, depends on what application you're using
[06:40] <tga> pardon, quite the other way around
[06:41] <tga> the Unix version of tar needs the "-"
[06:41] <dabaR> bah
[06:41] <adriyel> its irrelevant makes no difference on Linux does it not?
[06:41] <ian> dabaR Thanks but I dint use the .deb package.
[06:41] <tga> yes, afaik
[06:42] <adriyel> ubuntu, I love your name, where'd you get it from?
[06:42] <drcode> I use jpegtrans to flip the image
[06:42] <pavelich> dabaR: can u recomend a linux books or something become well versed or maybe a website or just something to expedite the learning process
[06:42] <dabaR> adriyel: read the ubuntu.com web site
[06:42] <drcode> IS there command that can zoom
[06:42] <drcode> I want to use it in script
[06:43] <Grug> hey guys, can i just copy over my fonts from XP to Linux?
[06:43] <Amaranth> yeah, it's probably better to use '-' in scripts though
[06:43] <adriyel> dabaR, you mean ubuntulinux.com ?
[06:43] <Amaranth> so they don't barf on Unix systems
[06:43] <kevogod> ubuntu.com works
[06:43] <adriyel> Amaranth, I use -'s out of habit for that reason
[06:43] <Amaranth> just like R for recursive instead of r
[06:43] <adriyel> Amaranth, *nods*
[06:43] <tritium> Grug, yes
[06:43] <dabaR> pavelich: yes, philosophy: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ Ubuntu ins-outs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[06:43] <Grug> ok thanks trit
[06:43] <adriyel> why, may I ask, am I being directed to www.ubuntu.com dabaR ?
[06:43] <dabaR> adriyel: did you try typing into the browser and pressing enter before typing the question and pressing enter?
[06:43] <tritium> adriyel, forgot your comment, did you?
[06:44] <dabaR> adriyel: you asked about the name.
[06:44] <Agrajag> dabaR: your sarcasm meter is in dire need of service
[06:44] <adriyel> omg...
[06:44] <HJ_Res_24> sheesh - 563
[06:44] <dabaR> Agrajag: possible.
[06:44] <intelikey> every so often i get this anoying "hickup" of error message and the leds on the keyboard all come on and what ever is on the screen is messed up with "input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 "   anyone know what causes this keyboard reset or update or what ever it is????
[06:44] <adriyel> you thought I was serious?
[06:44] <HJ_Res_24> ubuntu rocks
[06:44] <adriyel> tell me you're kidding.
[06:45] <HJ_Res_24> I'm trying to get online
[06:45] <adriyel> Agrajag, was he being serious?
[06:45] <intelikey> console only on that ^
[06:45] <Agrajag> adriyel: I hope not, else I need to fix my sarcasmometer also
[06:45] <dabaR> HJ_Res_24: do yuo have a question or a problem?
[06:45] <adriyel> I think I am sorely worried for a few folks here.
[06:45] <Agrajag> or whatever
[06:45] <dabaR> adriyel: stick around, you will understand more.
[06:45] <adriyel> lol @ dabaR's statement
[06:46] <pavelich> i love linux, i tried the switch a few years back and there werent that many apps that allowed me to be purely dependant on it, but now ubuntu is so user friendly that i am telling everyone i know to use it, i ordered 60 or so cds from them and i couldnt believe they actually sent me them, i am trying to give them to everyone i can, change is comming, i can feel it
[06:46] <adriyel> dabaR, I've been present here before. I'm no ignoramus either.
[06:46] <adriyel> evangelical christianity, open source community...the difference is dogma :P
[06:46] <dabaR> pavelich: yes, in my unix class that I attend one of the students was handing them out too.
[06:47] <adriyel> dabaR, which of the unices do they use in that class?
[06:47] <NoobieDoobieDo> where can i get a sources.list so i can add other packages ?
[06:47] <NoobieDoobieDo> such as w32codecs...
[06:47] <dabaR> adriyel: ask me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:47] <tritium> !tell NoobieDoobieDo about repositories
[06:47] <NoobieDoobieDo> thx
[06:47] <Madpilot> !tell NoobieDoobieDo about w32codecs
[06:48] <squirrel> hi, i'm having trouble with bittorrent in badger, where is the right place to ask for help?
[06:48] <dabaR> HJ_Res_24: are you not online with ubuntu, what ISP type do you have, dial up?
[06:48] <Octane> can someone recommend a good ftpd
[06:48] <adriyel> proftpd ?
[06:48] <Octane> where i can manage users with a gui :)
[06:49] <Octane> because i cant figure out pureftpd really
[06:49] <pavelich> dabaR: yeah its so great but it scares people to break out of what they are used to, and back when i tried openoffice a while back it was nothing to what it is now, its unreal the quallity improvment and how much things have changed in the past year or so
[06:49] <Grug> ^^
[06:49] <adriyel> pavelich, OO.o 2 is nice.
[06:50] <drcode> how can I zoom jpeg? any script program I Can use exept convert like jpegtrans ?
[06:51] <tritium> drcode, do you mean resize?
[06:51] <squirrel> any ideas why p2p apps don't work for me in badger, anyone?
[06:51] <Xenguy> Octane: I've heard good things about vsftpd
[06:51] <dabaR> squirrel: you have to say how they do not work.
[06:52] <squirrel> dabaR: I only get tracker connection timeouts, no matter how many torrents i try. it only started after upgrade from warty
[06:52] <Mr_Milenko> whats a good Dialer program for Linux?
[06:52] <tritium> drcode, install imagemagick.  It has command-line tools you can do all kinds of things with: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-tools.php
[06:52] <pavelich> dabaR: know of any good music players that feature an organization system similar to iTunes' browse feature, like how by genre, artist, then album
[06:52] <Octane> Xenguy: thanks man
[06:52] <Mr_Milenko> i cant dialup to the internet :(
[06:52] <Xenguy> Octane: have fun
[06:52] <tritium> pavelich, perhaps muine or beep media player
[06:53] <Mr_Milenko> pavelich: rythmbox?
[06:53] <Xenguy> Mr_Milenko: pppconfig? kppp?
[06:53] <siimo> Mr_Milenko, use gnome-ppp
[06:53] <Mr_Milenko> rythmbox also has an iPod utility i beleive
[06:53] <siimo> !info gnome-ppp
[06:53] <ubotu> gnome-ppp: (modem internet connection tool for GNOME), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.21-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 81 kB, Installed size: 608 kB
[06:53] <Mr_Milenko> siimo: i it in the installation by default?
[06:53] <Mr_Milenko> is*
[06:53] <drcode> hi
[06:53] <drcode> I know
[06:53] <siimo> Mr_Milenko, no you need to apt-get it
[06:53] <Amaranth> no
[06:53] <AzraelALive> hi
[06:53] <drcode> is there other tool exapet imagemagic?
[06:54] <Mr_Milenko> lol..
[06:54] <cius> hellp
[06:54] <cius> hello*
[06:54] <tritium> drcode, imagemagick can certainly resize and re-sample images
[06:54] <Mr_Milenko> no internet.. so ima have to download on windows and put it on my fat32 partition and install it manually
[06:54] <Mr_Milenko> ok thanks
[06:54] <pavelich> dabaR: ahah i should try a little harder at looking before i ask a dumb question like that, i didnt even notice rythm box and dl banshee, ahah yeah rythmbox has exactly what i was looking for
[06:54] <cius> I'm a question about sound in ubuntu breezy
[06:54] <siimo> Mr_Milenko, http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/gnome-ppp download it manually from here
[06:55] <Mr_Milenko> NICE!
[06:55] <adriyel> Mr_Milenko, ifconfig eth0 up ?
[06:55] <squirrel> is there any channel where one can get help?
[06:55] <siimo> Mr_Milenko, you may have to grab the dependency wvdial as well http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/comm/wvdial
[06:55] <siimo> adriyel, he is dialup
[06:55] <adriyel> siimo, ouch.
[06:55] <Mr_Milenko> have wvdial
[06:55] <Mr_Milenko> :)
[06:55] <tritium> squirrel, right here :)
[06:55] <Mr_Milenko> that was on the cd
[06:55] <siimo> ok then just grab gnome-ppp
[06:55] <drcode> 
[06:55] <drcode> 
[06:55] <drcode> ok
[06:55] <drcode> thanx
[06:55] <NoobieDoobieDo> hrm...
[06:55] <tritium> pavelich, check out beep and muine as well
[06:56] <AzraelALive> <ubuntu/centos
[06:56] <squirrel> tritium: ok, third try: after update from warty to badger bittorrent only gives tracker timeouts
[06:56] <cius> I've noticed that my xmms install is using the OSS driver, however, so does quake4 in order to work properly.  Now, when I have music playing in xmms and I start quake4 I don't get sound in quake4.  And when I'm playing quake4 and I try to start music it won't play.  It's like only one program can use the sound card at a time.   Is there any way to remedy this so that I can listen to music and play quake4 at the same time?
[06:57] <Madpilot> NoobieDoobieDo: if you mean ubuntuguide.org, please don't use that. start with wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[06:57] <tritium> squirrel, if you think you've found a bug, please report it
[06:57] <NoobieDoobieDo> Madpilot, thanks, it use to work `good` but now most of the stuff ive tried fails.
[06:57] <Madpilot> squirrel: install Firestarter and make sure you've got BT's ports open
[06:57] <tritium> NoobieDoobieDo, also, help.ubuntu.com, and your help system (the little life-preserver icon has a great Ubuntu 5.10 Starter Guide)
[06:57] <squirrel> tritium: i've read that others have that problem too, in the forum
[06:58] <squirrel> Madpilot: did the firestarter thing, no change
[06:58] <tritium> squirrel, I don't use bittorrent, so I'm unfamiliar with it
[06:58] <Mr_Milenko> bbl gonna try this
[06:58] <trincamckee> cius, i think u could try esd to enable multiple sounds at same time
[06:58] <NoobieDoobieDo> tritium, ja, this is the 5th or 6th time im bringin an Ubuntu system up just trying to get all the multimedia support.
[06:58] <squirrel> Madpilot: it doesn't seem to upload anything
[06:58] <Shadowline> Woot!, KDE 3.5-rc1 is out!!!
[06:58] <Madpilot> squirrel: hmmm, OK. I had to do the Firestarter thing, and it worked fine. It might just be the torrents you're trying...
[06:58] <cius> trincamckee, how would you do that in esd?  Do you have to kill it then restart it with a certain option?
[06:59] <squirrel> Madpilot: i tried several (healthy ones). also, amule doesn't seem to download either
[06:59] <trincamckee> cius,  just run in terminal for example "esd"
[06:59] <siimo> esd sucks anyway
[06:59] <Madpilot> squirrel: try the Knoppix 4 CD torrent, I did that a few hours ago and it was blazing fast, w/ people peering from me - they still are, actually.
[07:00] <trincamckee> siimo,  can u be more precisly?
[07:00] <trappist> esd is famous for sucking
[07:00] <cius> trincamckee, I remember having to kill esd in order to get sound in quake4 working initially, I don't think it would work properly if I started esd normally
[07:00] <trappist> "I don't know why and I'm not yet motivated to fix it since my views on esd are mostly unprintable." -- Alan Cox
[07:01] <trincamckee> then i aint see more resolution for ur problem
[07:01] <trincamckee> but sure is more
[07:01] <trincamckee> maybe someone knows
[07:01] <cius> trincamckee, thanks for trying, I appreciate the help
[07:02] <trappist> oh you guys are trying to do play multiple audio streams with a card that doesn't do hardware mixing
[07:02] <trappist> arts is pretty good for that
[07:02] <trincamckee> trappist, but why esd is famous for that?
[07:02] <trappist> trincamckee: I have no idea.  I used it happily for a long time.
[07:02] <cius> trappist, how would I use arts under ubuntu?
[07:02] <trincamckee> well its my case too im using without problem
[07:02] <trappist> cius: arts is pretty much kde specific, I think
[07:03] <cius> trappist, dang, I don't do kde these days, too heavy for my tastes
[07:03] <trappist> trincamckee: then again, I was using a card with a hardware mixer so I didn't have any need for it.  it wasn't doing anything useful.
[07:03] <trappist> cius: it might work just fine outside kde.  I'm not sure.
[07:03] <cius> trappist, would the intel ich5 chipset have hardware mixing?
[07:03] <hit3k> How do I get my windows machine to show up in the networks folder, I have installed samba
[07:04] <trappist> the only chipsets I know of that do it are awe32 and emu10k1
[07:04] <squirrel> Madpilot: i get 2kb download, no upload (knoppix 4)
[07:04] <trappist> oh and sb16
[07:05] <trappist> squirrel: you're forwarding all the right ports?
[07:05] <squirrel> trappist: my iptables is empty, and i didn't change anything on the router, just updated from warty.
[07:06] <squirrel> trappist: to make double sure, which ports do i need to forward in the router? 6881 and up?
[07:06] <trappist> for what? bittorrent?
[07:06] <squirrel> yes
[07:06] <Madpilot> squirrel: ouch. I got 108Kb down, max, and about 9Kb up. Got the entire ISO in less than 2.5hrs
[07:06] <trappist> 6881-6889
[07:07] <LathropWells> Hewlett Packard Laptops support for Ubuntu http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2002/020901a.html http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/custom/hplaptops http://www.tectonic.co.za/viewr.php?id=595
[07:08] <trappist> sweet
[07:08] <trappist> wait.  2002? doesn't that predate ubuntu?
[07:08] <squirrel> thanks guys, maybe it _was_ just the wrong torrent, now the knoppix one has picked up its speed
[07:09] <LathropWells> It is a bit sketchy - nothing zero zip on the HP site
[07:09] <garrett_> Can I get a...happy birthday from anyone?
[07:09] <garrett_> It's 12:01 here. :)
[07:09] <hit3k> How do I get windows machines to show up on my network? I have Samba installed
[07:10] <hav0k> hey guys, how do i play dvds with vlc?
[07:11] <Amaranth> !dvd
[07:11] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:11] <siimo> forget esd, use ALSA and ALSA-OSS
[07:11] <hav0k> oh thanks
[07:11] <rabeldable> I watched a dvd with my 5.10 system
[07:11] <siimo> rabeldable, great
[07:11] <Grug> i'm gonna use my new xbox 360 for dvd playin :)
[07:11] <Grug> when i get it :)
[07:11] <hav0k> good, cause i cant figure it out
[07:12] <hav0k> and im pretty sure totem is crap
[07:12] <hav0k> nothing i have works with it
[07:12] <rubin> hav0k: file open disc
[07:12] <hav0k> for totem?  or vlc?
[07:12] <rabeldable> i had to get the win32codecs and the libdvdcss2 packages and install them
[07:12] <yookoala> Hello
[07:12] <hav0k> okay, can i not apt-get the libdvdcss2?
[07:13] <YokoZar> Ok, I really should know this, but I can't figure out how to configure /etc/fstab so that my new disk can be written to by my user account
[07:13] <rubin> hav0k: put in the dvd device (eg, /dev/dvd)
[07:13] <bungle> mplayer homepage
[07:13] <hav0k> i did that, but it didnt work rubin
[07:13] <rabeldable> you can't apt-get the libdvdcss2 file you need to download it then install it
[07:13] <hav0k> okay
[07:14] <rabeldable>  123  dpkg --install libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu0_i386.deb
[07:14] <rabeldable>   124  dpkg --install w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[07:14] <scott_> Hi, I have a japanese laptop, so a Japanese keyboard.  I would like to use ubuntu with this layout but I don't know how.  Anyone can help?
[07:14] <garrett_> I tried MPlayer. Thought it was crap.
[07:14] <rabeldable> thats from my history
[07:14] <rabeldable> install them that way
[07:14] <garrett_> I know I'm going to get a lot of flac(k) from that, but just my opinion.
[07:14] <hav0k> hmmm, im trying to find them on this website, but where exactly are they
[07:14] <Amaranth> scott_: i believe it's System->Preferences->Keyboard
[07:15] <garrett_> I'm a Winamp fanboy on the Windoze side... this is probably my fourth day with a Linux install, and I've yet to find a really decent player.
[07:15] <hav0k> oh never mind
[07:15] <R0bNyc> who's using dapper here :)
[07:15] <misfit_toy> garrett_, amaroK
[07:15] <hav0k> xmms is pretty okay
[07:15] <drcode> is there ubuntu unstable in source.list?
[07:15] <hav0k> it looks pretty much like winamp, but its not as cool
[07:15] <Amaranth> garrett_: muine, banshee, rhythmbox, and amarok aren't good for you?
[07:15] <YokoZar> zuh?
[07:15] <drcode> like I Have in debian?
[07:15] <Amaranth> drcode: that'd be dapper
[07:15] <frogzoo> YokoZar: should be dead easy "/dev/hda2       /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
[07:15] <frogzoo> "
[07:15] <R0bNyc> drcode, dapper
[07:15] <R0bNyc> i was just told
[07:15] <garrett_> Last time I used XMMS (Fedora...), reminded me way too much of Winamp 2.x
[07:15] <drcode> dapper?
[07:15] <Amaranth> drcode: unlike debian sid things really do break though
[07:15] <rabeldable> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/breezy-extras/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu0_i386.deb
[07:15] <hav0k> yeah, i got it
[07:16] <Amaranth> drcode: sometimes it means no X for a week
[07:16] <garrett_> Amaranth: I've yet to try any of them. Noted. Will install.
[07:16] <hav0k> ha, now what about that other one rabeldable
[07:16] <drcode> deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-unstable main
[07:16] <YokoZar> frogzoo: hmm... well, don't want it as /home ;)
[07:16] <rabeldable> coming up
[07:16] <garrett_> Thanks misfit_toy
[07:16] <drcode> deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-dapper  main ?
[07:16] <misfit_toy> garrett_, np
[07:16] <sal> I am a new ubuntu user, just switched from fc4.  I like it a lot, but I am used to my xterm's titles being from screen.  Ive googled and read both mans, I don't know how to change it so screen changes the title.
[07:16] <scott_> Amaranth, Ive specified Generic 104key PC with Japanese layout.  When I do that, instead of normal letters, I see kanas when I type.
[07:16] <Amaranth> drcode: err, you're on hoary?
[07:16] <rabeldable> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/breezy-extras/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[07:16] <rabeldable> there ya go
[07:16] <drcode> yes
[07:16] <Amaranth> drcode: you need to upgrade to breezy, then to dapper
[07:16] <drcode> sorry
[07:16] <Amaranth> !breezy
[07:16] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:16] <frogzoo> YokoZar: man fstab ; man mount
[07:16] <scott_> Amaranth, I would like to be able to type roman letters and use an input method software to enter kanjis.
[07:17] <hav0k> oh... i had to scroll down like two more inches... hahaha,
[07:17] <YokoZar> frogzoo: I think I want umask, actually.  It's a bit different with the home directories
[07:17] <scott_> Amaranth, How can I invoke the input method software in ubuntu?
[07:17] <Amaranth> scott_: right click on the xchat text entry thing
[07:17] <rabeldable> yeah there's lots o links there
[07:17] <yi> hurmm, anyone aware of a list of rxvt-unicode resources?
[07:17] <john-> hello can someone point me in the direction of a good software raid tutorial.?
[07:17] <pavelich> dabaR: ok, ahha sorry again, i downloaded the tar.gz file, its located in my home dirrectory and the filename is {eclipse-SDK-3.1.1-linux-gtk.tar.gz} , what is the best way to install it, in terminal would the path be {zxf ./home/eclipse-SDK-3.1.1-linux-gtk.tar.gz} because i tried a few variations of that command and get the error command not found, now does that mean the command itself is wrong or the dirrectory could be wrong too
[07:17] <john-> i tried the software raid during install kept erroring out tho =/
[07:18] <garrett_> Blatantly newbie question...will amaroK run on Gnome?
[07:18] <rabeldable> john: google RAID0 RAID1 RAID1+0
[07:18] <scott_> Amaranth, That looks interesting indeed.  I will try it.
[07:18] <Amaranth> garrett_: yep
[07:18] <garrett_> Shanky.
[07:18] <GarrettC> Jeebsus. No nicks.
[07:18] <pavelich> ANYONE KNOW WHAT TO DO? i downloaded the tar.gz file, its located in my home dirrectory and the filename is {eclipse-SDK-3.1.1-linux-gtk.tar.gz} , what is the best way to install it, in terminal would the path be {zxf ./home/eclipse-SDK-3.1.1-linux-gtk.tar.gz} because i tried a few variations of that command and get the error command not found, now does that mean the command itself is wrong or the dirrectory could be wrong too
[07:18] <rohan> yay ! my breezy cds arrived!! wheee!
[07:18] <misfit_toy> GarrettC, running it now under gnome, you do have to have the KDE libs though, but apt will do that for you if you don't have them.
[07:18] <hit3k> So can anyone help me?
[07:18] <rohan> but i had not ordered these many :P
[07:19] <GarrettC> misfit_toy, thanks.
[07:19] <rabeldable> pavelich: tar -zxf /path/to/filename
[07:19] <rabeldable> pavelich: use the tab to complete the names of your files, thats the easiest way
[07:19] <scott_> Amaranth, Now, the layout of my keyboard seems ok.  I put Japanese in the preferences dialog.
[07:19] <GarrettC> Another question, if I download say...Flock...or anything that's tar'd...How do I install that?
[07:19] <rohan> do shipit guys send extra cds ?
[07:19] <GarrettC> I've yet to install anything from other than apt
[07:20] <scott_> Amaranth, However, when I select the input method, which one should I choose, the X window IM?
[07:20] <misfit_toy> GarrettC, http://tldp.org
[07:20] <bert88> hi ubuntuers
[07:20] <pavelich> rabeldable:  what do you mean use the tab, sorry i am newb
[07:20] <LathropWells> Hi bert
[07:20] <Amaranth> scott_: That I don't know, sorry.
[07:20] <rabeldable> pavelich: do you know what the terminal window is?
[07:20] <kapputu> I don't have much experience with p2p software, I want to download a few movies, what client should I be using?
[07:21] <scott_> Amaranth, Thanks.
[07:21] <bert88> kapputu:try azureus
[07:22] <pavelich> rabeldable: yeah
[07:22] <Amaranth> kapputu, bert88: Discussion of illegal activities isn't allowed here.
[07:22] <solidgroove> thechitowncubs, are you around
[07:22] <LathropWells> lol - p2p is another channel
[07:22] <GarrettC> misfit_toy, thanks again.
[07:22] <thechitowncubs> solidgroove, yes...
[07:22] <bert88> apologies, he didnt say copyrighted
[07:22] <misfit_toy> GarrettC, enjoy
[07:22] <solidgroove> how do I get launch.yahoo videos working?
[07:22] <solidgroove> i still get the needs netscape error
[07:22] <rabeldable> pavelich: ok, its called tab completion.  You start to type a command then hit tab, the shell will automatically complete the command for you
[07:23] <thechitowncubs> solidgroove, you need to hover over link and use the video code that is in parenthesis in the url and put it in the dialog from the script
[07:23] <pavelich> thatrabeldable: thats what i am inputting it into now, just got the error dirrectory does not exist, when going through the home, do i need the user name after, like ./home/username/filename
[07:23] <rabeldable> pavelich: as long as the command is unique it will complete it, if its not unique it will complete as much as possible then give you a list of the different possibilities
[07:23] <solidgroove> ok
[07:23] <solidgroove> thanks
[07:23] <pavelich> rabeldable: k
[07:23] <thechitowncubs> solidgroove, no problem
[07:24] <rabeldable> pavelich: is it your home directory or someone elses?
[07:24] <addd> hsidhsip
[07:25] <__cdecl> why do sum applications display incorrectly in the bootup consoles (F1 to F6) but display correctly in screen, xterm and putty sessions?
[07:25] <pavelich> rabeldable: mine
[07:25] <bert88> hey has anyone installed jedit successfully on ubuntu?
[07:25] <__cdecl> *some
[07:25] <rabeldable> pavelich: try this command
[07:25] <pavelich> k
[07:25] <NoobieDoobieDo> the java guide @ wiki.ubuntu.com isnt working..any other easy sure fire guides?
[07:25] <rabeldable> pavelich: tar -zxf ~/filename.tar.gz
[07:25] <rabeldable> pavelich: beware that will untar the file in your current directory
[07:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell NoobieDoobieDo about java
[07:26] <NoobieDoobieDo> !javadebs
[07:26] <ubotu> Sun Java debs packaged for Ubuntu. Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy))
[07:26] <NoobieDoobieDo> that URL = file not found BTW.
[07:27] <kapputu> how do I register an application that I install with Gnome?
[07:27] <pavelich> rabeldable: is the linux terminal caps sensitive
[07:27] <siimo> NoobieDoobieDo, even better is to use penguin liberation front
[07:27] <NoobieDoobieDo> siimo, thx.
[07:28] <bert88> file not found here too ;0(
[07:28] <siimo> NoobieDoobieDo, that has java packaged
[07:28] <NoobieDoobieDo> thx
[07:28] <Xenguy> pavelich: *nix is case-sensitive yes
[07:29] <adriyel_dasleepi> night people.
[07:29] <bert88> night
[07:30] <rabeldable> unix is case sensitive
[07:30] <thechitowncubs> solidgroove, did everything work ok?
[07:30] <rabeldable> pavelich: did that work?
[07:30] <bmrtin> is ubuntu based off of debian
[07:30] <Amaranth> sort of
[07:31] <rabeldable> yes
[07:31] <pavelich> rabeldable: no it says no such file exists still so i must be typing something in wrong
[07:31] <Xenguy> bmrtin: totally
[07:31] <bmrtin> does it use apt
[07:31] <Amaranth> i mean, yeah, but with a lot of changes
[07:31] <Amaranth> yes
[07:31] <rabeldable> pavelich: try this
[07:31] <Amaranth> you can't use debian repos though
[07:31] <carlkof> hola
[07:31] <bmrtin> cool im currently downloading it
[07:31] <rabeldable> pavelich: file /path/to/file
[07:31] <carlkof> cani help somebody
[07:32] <kapputu> how do I register an application that I install with Gnome?
[07:32] <rabeldable> its similar to debian in that the system is setup the same
[07:32] <rabeldable> things start the same and the networking is the same
[07:32] <kapputu> how do I make it appear in the menu in Gnome?
[07:32] <Amaranth> kapputu: use smeg or alacarte to add it
[07:32] <Amaranth> !alacarte
[07:32] <ubotu> Alacarte Menu Editor is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME. Older versions were called smeg. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/
[07:33] <pavelich> rabeldabel: ok now i feel retarded, ahah, when you type in path names, for example this is mine, home/exclipse.tar.gz
[07:33] <nalioth> kapputu: if you used the apt-get, and it's a gui program, it should appear by itself
[07:33] <pavelich> rabeldabel: am i missing something
[07:33] <rabeldable> pavelich: type this
[07:33] <rabeldable> pavelich: pwd
[07:33] <pavelich> rabeldabel: like the username inbetween, i just feel like this should be the easiest process
[07:33] <pavelich> l
[07:33] <pavelich> k
[07:33] <rabeldable> pavelich: what directory are you in?
[07:34] <pavelich> k
[07:34] <pavelich> home/michael
[07:34] <rabeldable> ok
[07:34] <F-Jakob> 3DDesk rules :-D
[07:34] <rabeldable> tar -zxf eclipse.tar.gz should do it
[07:34] <pavelich> so home/michael/eclipse.tar.gz should work right
[07:34] <pavelich> k
[07:36] <pavelich> rabeldabel: it paused for a while then a new terminal line came up? i am confused
[07:36] <LoneWolf071> is there any way to force logrotate to rotate after so many lines in a fily?
[07:36] <LoneWolf071> or hourly?
[07:37] <egon_spengler> pavelich: You didn't include the verbose (-v) switch in what rabeldable gave you, so it just unpacked and returned with no error
[07:37] <LoneWolf071> or a certian file size?
[07:37] <bmrtin> are there alot of apt repos fo unbuntu
[07:37] <bmrtin> are there alot of apt repos fo unbuntu
[07:37] <LoneWolf071> ???
[07:37] <LoneWolf071> is there any way to force logrotate to rotate after so many lines in a file, or hourly, or by file size?
[07:37] <pavelich> so then now what do i do to install or run eclipse?
[07:38] <nalioth> bmrtin: there are not.  /msg ubotu repos
[07:38] <Amaranth> LoneWolf071: Please don't repeat yourself. If someone knows the answer they will answer.
[07:38] <LoneWolf071> k, sorry, i just wanted to condense it
[07:39] <pavelich> egon_spengler: so once its unpacked what do i do next, and ideally i would like to have it included in my applications menu
[07:39] <ian> If I had to install ubuntu with acpi support disabled, will that affect my abbility to monitor the temp of my hard disk?
[07:39] <rob_p> LoneWolf071:  You can view your /etc/logrotate.conf file as well as the man page for logrotate.  You should find what you need there.
[07:40] <LoneWolf071> the man doesn'
[07:40] <ian> or is acpi only related to power management?
[07:41] <rabeldable> pavelich: type         ls -l
[07:41] <pavelich> I FEEL LIKE THE BIGGEST LOST NEWB EVER RIGHT NOW
[07:41] <rabeldable> or type:  cd eclipse*
[07:41] <rabeldable> sorry i'm playing GTA san andreas...
[07:41] <addd> yyiui
[07:42] <pavelich> rabeldabel: now what do i do once i see it
[07:42] <Amaranth> why do people leave right when i find their answer? :/
[07:43] <_native_> l
[07:43] <drcode> hi all
[07:43] <drcode> to upgrade into breezy , I Need to change sources.list to breezy and then apt-get upgrade?
[07:43] <ceywj> do u think ubuntu is too slow...
[07:44] <drcode> to upgrade into breezy , I Need to change sources.list to breezy and then apt-get update/upgrade/?
[07:44] <_native_> drcode
[07:44] <_native_> yes
[07:44] <drcode> k
[07:44] <drcode> thanx
[07:44] <_native_> wait
[07:44] <Xenguy> !tell drcode about breezy
[07:44] <_native_> its also best to goto runlevel 3 or lower then do the upgrade.
[07:45] <nalioth> _native_: you can upgrade while you chat, this isn't windows
[07:45] <pavelich> rabeldabel: sorry for so many questions. but what do i do next
[07:45] <_native_> i know
[07:45] <_native_> but i ran into problems unless i was in a lower runlevel.
[07:45] <drcode> thanx
[07:45] <drcode> I am going to do it
[07:45] <drcode> bye
[07:45] <rabeldable> pavelich:  change into the new directory and type ls
[07:46] <ceywj> ubuntu use the runlevel 2 by default
[07:46] <_native_> nal 'ee' oth? is that how you pronounce it?
[07:47] <_native_> ceywj;  ? what
[07:47] <nalioth> _native_: it's just text on the screen, friend, i've never heard it out of anyones mouth
[07:47] <_native_> lol
[07:48] <pavelich> rabeldabel: dude i am retarded, how do i change into the new directory
[07:48] <Xenguy> pavelich: cd
[07:48] <rabeldable> cd = command for change directory
[07:49] <pavelich> and how do i know the directory
[07:49] <GarrettC> If a application doesn't have a ./configure file...what do I do? :(
[07:49] <pavelich> i want
[07:49] <Hobbsee> GarrettC: check the readme?
[07:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pavelich about cli
[07:49] <nalioth> GarrettC: read the INSTALL  ?
[07:49] <rabeldable> pavelich:  i'm sorry but you have to keep up... there is alot of info here and you need to pay attention
[07:49] <Xenguy> GarrettC: what app (maybe it is packaged for Ubu) ?
[07:49] <rabeldable> pavelich:  change into the new directory and type ls
[07:49] <GarrettC> Flock's readme (install doesn't exist) is incomplete.
[07:50] <GarrettC> Redirects me to the getfirefox.com site. Hah.
[07:50] <pavelich> ok i have a list of all the files, now what
[07:50] <nalioth> GarrettC: i've built flock, it's easy and the walkthrough for building firefox is the same
[07:50] <rabeldable> do you see a README?
[07:50] <rabeldable> or readme
[07:51] <GarrettC> nalioth, I'll Google a Firefox install. Thanks man.
[07:51] <rabeldable> paste in the link where you got that tar.gz file at
[07:51] <rabeldable> I want to read a few things really quick
[07:51] <GarrettC> rabeldable, are you talking to someone else?
[07:51] <nalioth> GarrettC: the intructions are at mozilla.org where the thing sent you
[07:52] <nalioth> GarrettC: they work great, i've built cvs firefox and flock using them
[07:52] <mebaran151> does encoding work for AMD64 yet
[07:52] <rabeldable> pavelich: ???????
[07:52] <mebaran151> I used to get hard halts with AMD64
[07:52] <pavelich> nope, i see a new file eclipse, also the original tar.gz file, but no readme or anything that looks like something unpackaged
[07:52] <mebaran151> using mencoder of course
[07:52] <rabeldable> pavelich: cd eclipse
[07:52] <yi> has anyone cared to build amd64 packages for the firefox 1.5rc2 release?
[07:53] <grahamoz> hey
[07:53] <grahamoz> how do i get to see my windows drives ?
[07:53] <pavelich> k did that and then i ls so now i get a new list
[07:53] <grahamoz> wat
[07:53] <pavelich> and a readme
[07:53] <pavelich> i see it now
[07:54] <Hobbsee> !tell grahamoz about windowsdrives
[07:54] <Hobbsee> !tell grahamoz about mount
[07:54] <rabeldable> pavelich: tell me where you got the eclipse.tar.gz file at
[07:54] <LathropWells> !tell grahamoz about ntfs
[07:54] <grahamoz> lol thats cool
[07:54] <pavelich> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/index.php
[07:54] <pavelich> i found a readme.html file in the readme dirrectory
[07:55] <pavelich> can i open that in the terminal?
[07:55] <rabeldable> pavelich: ok, open the readme file and read it , i'll be back in 2 minutes then we continue
[07:55] <pavelich> k
[07:55] <pavelich> thanks alot man i am starting to understand the terminal and its commands better too now thanks
[07:56] <rabeldable> pavelich: open a web browser and goto file and open the file, you remember where it is right
[07:56] <intelikey> pavelich w3m readme.html   to open it in a terminal.
[07:56] <pavelich> k
[07:56] <rabeldable> pavelich: /home/michael/eclipse/readme.html
[07:57] <nalioth> pavelich: ubotu sent you some really good info on the terminal
[07:57] <Xenguy> gee I thought eclipse was already available in Ubu
[07:57] <grahamoz> that is cool
[07:58] <grahamoz> how u get realplayer and everything
[07:58] <_native_> Xenguy; it is, in the repos ;-] 
[07:58] <hit3k> Can someone help me set up my network?
[07:58] <Madpilot> grahamoz: you don't need realplayer, Totem + codecs can play mp3 & everything...
[07:58] <grahamoz> hmm ok
[07:59] <Madpilot> grahamoz: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:59] <Madpilot> !tell grahamoz about w32codecs
[07:59] <i3dmaster> which video codecs are better, divx4, divx5, or xvid4?
[08:00] <nalioth> i3dmaster: depends on the movies you want to play
[08:00] <intelikey> E: Depends: libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not installable      would someone with that file installed please check and tell me what package provided it ?
[08:00] <nalioth> intelikey: build it
[08:01] <i3dmaster> nalioth, meaning what? I am not familiar with that though..
[08:01] <LathropWells> would ubotu know?   !info your_file
[08:01] <intelikey> nalioth why ?   why not fix what ever i broke ?
[08:01] <hit3k> How do i get my windows box to show up on the network if i already have Samba installed?
[08:01] <nalioth> i3dmaster: if your movie is encoded in divx4 obviously you need that codec
[08:01] <Xenguy> hit3k: what do you want to do?
[08:01] <nalioth> intelikey: idk what you broke, and you may have broken nothing
[08:01] <bob2> !+info libmad0 breezy
[08:01] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[08:01] <ubotu> libmad0: (MPEG audio decoder library), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.15.1b-2.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 75 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[08:01] <hit3k> Xenguy,  I want my windows box to show up on my network
[08:01] <bob2> intelikey: ^
[08:01] <rabeldable> pavelich: u there?
[08:02] <nalioth> intelikey: usually 'not installable' means its not a binary for your arch
[08:02] <pavelich> when i use the top command in terminal why does it say there are two users
[08:02] <pavelich> ahah yeah i am here
[08:02] <i3dmaster> nalioth, ah ok. actually I am trying to rip one.
[08:02] <Xenguy> hit3k: samba, that's all I can tell you
[08:02] <rabeldable> open chat session
[08:02] <hit3k> Xenguy, samba is installed
[08:02] <intelikey> bob2 i'm on hoary
[08:02] <pavelich> now how do i read the readme file
[08:02] <Madpilot> pavelich: your terminal session counts as a user, and your actual user is the other...
[08:02] <intelikey> nalioth i installed the same package a few months back and it installed no errors.
[08:03] <i3dmaster> nalioth, and transcode it into avi, but there are a bunch of codecs can be chosen.. just not sure which one is better
[08:03] <pavelich> thanks as soon as u said that i saw the root
[08:03] <pavelich> rabeldabel: yeah i am here
[08:03] <nalioth> intelikey: i'm only advising from what i see now
[08:03] <Xenguy> pavelich: who are they?
[08:03] <bob2> intelikey: then you need to rebuild whatever you're trying to install, so it Depends on whatever libmad0 is in hoary
[08:03] <rabeldable> accept chat pavelich
[08:04] <pavelich> Xenguy: what you mean who are they
[08:04] <nalioth> intelikey: ogg theora
[08:04] <hav0k> rabeldable, ive run into a little trouble install the libdvdcss2
[08:04] <GarrettC> nalioth, this is going to sound really dumb. It routed me to the Firefox product page.
[08:04] <nalioth> rabeldable: you cannot chat anyone up on freenode. you are not registered
[08:04] <GarrettC> And I'm either blind or really effing tired.
[08:04] <intelikey> !info libmad0 hoary
[08:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rabeldable about register
[08:04] <ubotu> libmad0: (MPEG audio decoder library), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.15.1b-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 71 kB, Installed size: 148 kB
[08:04] <GarrettC> ...or drunk. :)
[08:04] <hav0k> it says:      dpkg:  dependency problems prevent configuration of libdvdcss2
[08:05] <GarrettC> I'm lost. Sigh.
[08:05] <intelikey> nalioth you lost me    <nalioth> intelikey: ogg theora
[08:05] <rabeldable> hav0k: what happened?
[08:05] <hav0k> it says:      dpkg:  dependency problems prevent configuration of libdvdcss2
[08:05] <rabeldable> pavelich: did you open a browser?
[08:05] <nalioth> intelikey: ogg theora is the best, and i was aiming for i3dmaster, sorry
[08:06] <pavelich> rabeldabel: i dont see anywhere to accept, i see you and offer, ahah sorry today is my second day on linux, so i am sorry but there is just huge learnign curve for me
[08:06] <nalioth> i3dmaster: ogg theora
[08:06] <bob2> theora is a video codec
[08:06] <pavelich> rabeldabel: yeah i have one open
[08:06] <intelikey> oh  :)
[08:06] <rabeldable> pavelich: forget about the chat.. it wont work
[08:06] <bob2> intelikey: what are you trying install?
[08:06] <hav0k> hmmm, rabeldable, i think i get it, i need to get libdvdcss2 before i get libdvdcss2-dev
[08:06] <intelikey> bob2 sox
[08:06] <nalioth> rabeldable: pavelich: no one can priv msg on freenode unless they are registered
[08:06] <pavelich> k
[08:06] <pavelich> ohh
[08:06] <bob2> !+info sox hoary
[08:06] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[08:06] <ubotu> sox: (A universal sound sample translator), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 12.17.5-4 (hoary), Packaged size: 257 kB, Installed size: 612 kB
[08:06] <pavelich> thanks
[08:06] <rabeldable> hav0k: you don't need -dev
[08:06] <pavelich> nalioth
[08:06] <bob2> intelikey: why not install that?
[08:06] <rabeldable> hav0k: I did not install that one
[08:07] <rabeldable> pavelich: in your browser open eclipse readme file
[08:07] <intelikey> bob2 that is what i've been trying to install...
[08:07] <hav0k> hmmm, yeah, i got the wrong one i guess... haha, i really could have figured that out on my own i guess.  but thanks rabeldable
[08:07] <intelikey> and i get the error   sox: Depends: libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[08:07] <rabeldable> hav0k:use the links i sent ya
[08:07] <intelikey> that's from an apt-get
[08:07] <Zealot87> can you install debian packages in ubuntu?
[08:08] <bert88> is playing dvd's on ubuntu even possible?
[08:08] <_native_> bert88; yes absolutly
[08:08] <nalioth> intelikey: you've been in here 24 hours or more on this, i'da done had apt-get build it and gone on
[08:08] <bob2> intelikey: /etc/apt/sources.list and 'apt-cache policy libmad0' output to #flood
[08:08] <bob2> bert88: yes
[08:08] <nalioth> Zealot87: it is not advised at all
[08:08] <Zealot87> ok
[08:08] <Zealot87> hah
[08:08] <hav0k> rabeldable, yeah, i just downloaded the wrong one... i have a bad habit of not reading the entire line
[08:09] <bert88> native: ok well i get nothing in my console when i type:  sudo apt-cache search libdvdcss2
[08:09] <hav0k> alright, ive got it all set up and installed, so now what?  rabeldable
[08:09] <Amaranth> !dvd
[08:09] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:09] <Zealot87> what about CVS install? can you do that>?
[08:09] <rabeldable> pavelich: what linux are you running?
[08:09] <nalioth> Zealot87: why not? it's only source code
[08:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Zealot87 about checkinstall
[08:09] <Zealot87> how do you setup cvs to work?? does it just work automatically
[08:09] <pavelich> ubuntu 5.10
[08:09] <hit3k> nalioth, can you help me with my Network problem?
[08:10] <Amaranth> hav0k: you install those with 'sudo dpkg -i <package file>' from a console
[08:10] <rabeldable> ok
[08:10] <bert88> thanks ubotu
[08:10] <pavelich> rabeldabel: got it open, wow this is really cool
[08:10] <nalioth> hit3k: there are many of us in here to ask
[08:10] <hav0k> yeah, i already installed them
[08:10] <rabeldable> pavelich: forget what I said... lets do something else
[08:10] <wickedpuppy> Zealot87, google cvs ... btw i recomment subversion over cvs ...
[08:10] <Amaranth> hav0k: then you're good to go
[08:10] <hit3k> yeah true
[08:10] <nalioth> wickedpuppy: not every project uses svn
[08:10] <intelikey> nalioth about compiling from source, i don't have the space for all the build essentials and still compile it....  but i did check on that.
[08:11] <hav0k> yeah, so when i use vlc and go to open disk or whatever what am i supposed to type in?  dev/dvd?
[08:11] <rabeldable> pavelich: at the top of your window: click System -> Administration -> Add Applications
[08:11] <bob2> intelikey: libmad0 is in main, but not on the cd
[08:11] <wickedpuppy> nalioth, ah i know kernel hackers use git .. but i mean if he hasn't choosen cvs yet
[08:11] <bob2> intelikey: add 'main' before universe in your archive.ubuntu apt line
[08:11] <intelikey> ah ok bob2 thanks.
[08:11] <Amaranth> hav0k: I thought it had better support for playing DVDs but yeah.
[08:11] <pavelich> rabeldabel:k
[08:11] <Amaranth> hav0k: Or use totem
[08:11] <bob2> Zealot87: it grealtly depends on what you want to do with it
[08:11] <intelikey> that's whas i was needing to know....   bob2.   thank you.
[08:11] <bob2> Zealot87: if you're using it to dowload other people's software, you don't need to setup anything
[08:11] <pavelich> rabeldabel: should i be in the basic or synaptic
[08:12] <rabeldable> pavelich: in the search window type eclipse then click search
[08:12] <hav0k> better support?  i tried typing in dvd://dev/dvd and it didnt work.
[08:12] <hit3k> One of you must be able to help me. My network folder wont show up my windows box and I have samba installed I configured it and everything but it just wont show up can anyone help me?
[08:12] <bob2> Zealot87: if you're running your own repository, that is more work
[08:12] <Zealot87> bob2, how does it work
[08:12] <Zealot87> terminal told me cvs isnt a command
[08:12] <bob2> Zealot87: what ar you planning to do with it?
[08:12] <pavelich> rabeldabel: got ir
[08:12] <rabeldable> pavelich: I'll be right back... going to store to get cigs
[08:12] <Amaranth> hav0k: try /dev/dvd
[08:12] <pavelich> ahah i smoke too
[08:13] <hav0k> naw, it doesnt work either
[08:13] <rabeldable> pavelich: read the docs
[08:13] <pavelich> k
[08:13] <pavelich> this is so cool
[08:13] <bob2> see, and people say mplayer is complex
[08:13] <bob2> 'mplayer dvd://1'
[08:13] <DShepherd> hav0k: that your /dev/hdc
[08:13] <DShepherd> try that
[08:13] <Zealot87> bob2, install a game :P
[08:13] <hav0k> okay
[08:14] <Amaranth> hav0k: totem to the rescue! :)
[08:14] <bob2> Zealot87: then install the 'cvs' package however you normally install [aclages
[08:14] <Zealot87> what do you mean?
[08:14] <hav0k> i tried /dev/hdc and it didnt work either
[08:14] <hav0k> ill see if it works in totem
[08:14] <Dasnipa> how do i free up clients using xlib? im getting this error:
[08:15] <bob2> Zealot87: have you ever installed anything on ubuntu before?
[08:15] <hav0k> yeah, it works in totem, but i really want it to work in vlc.... it seems like it should work right?
[08:15] <Dasnipa> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:15] <Dasnipa> Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached
[08:15] <Amaranth> hav0k: If you can figure out the right thing to tell vlc, it'll work.
[08:15] <bert88> ubotu: thanks for the link man, dvd works now ;0)
[08:15] <ubotu> bert88: bitte
[08:15] <Zealot87> bob2, yeah of course
[08:15] <hav0k> Amaranth, well, im sure it will... hahaha, but i dont know what to tell it.
[08:15] <Zealot87> bob2, source files never seem to work for me though
[08:16] <bob2> Zealot87: and how did you install them?
[08:16] <Amaranth> hav0k: Use the GUI to build the path for you.
[08:16] <bob2> Dasnipa: what does 'ps aux | wc -l' print out?
[08:16] <DShepherd> hav0k: can go to system-> admin->disk..cd rom. That should tell your device name..../dev/***
[08:16] <hav0k> Amaranth, hmm, GUI?
[08:16] <hav0k> ohhh, ill see
[08:16] <Dasnipa> bob2: 96
[08:16] <Zealot87> bob2, if the config didnt work, like some kind of c++ compiler error or something, then i just gave up, because it seems i can never get all the dependencies to get it to work anyways
[08:16] <Mr_Milenko> well good news..
[08:16] <Mr_Milenko> i was able to connect
[08:16] <Mr_Milenko> bad news.. slow as hell cause Linuxant is evil.
[08:16] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[08:17] <hav0k> haha, its /dev/scd0
[08:17] <bob2> Dasnipa: that is odd
[08:17] <DShepherd> hav0k: :) worked?
[08:17] <Amaranth> Mr_Milenko: gotta pay to get more than 14.4l
[08:17] <hav0k> maybe that will work... why does it come up with so obscure dev names?
[08:17] <ericmoritz> my company has a vpn system set up and when I try to run the linux client I get error messages, anyone have any ideas:
[08:17] <ericmoritz> ./ncui: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:17] <bob2> Zealot87: ok...
[08:17] <Amaranth> err, 14.4k
[08:17] <Mr_Milenko> i know
[08:17] <hav0k> DShepherd, i dont know yet, ill try.
[08:17] <Amaranth> Mr_Milenko: I hate Conexant modems.
[08:17] <intelikey> DShepherd is that the same as looking in fstab ?
[08:17] <Mr_Milenko> but i dont think its worth it tbh..
[08:17] <bob2> Zealot87: anyway, install the cvs package like you installed the others, and you'll have the 'cvs' command.
[08:17] <bob2> !+find libssl.so.2
[08:17] <Mr_Milenko> i could spend the 20 bucks on another modem
[08:17] <drcode> how I can upgrade the kernel?
[08:17] <Mr_Milenko> hell i can spend the 20 bucks on my ISP
[08:17] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:18] <drcode> linuximage or somthing ?
[08:18] <hav0k> DShepherd, nope
[08:18] <DShepherd> hav0k: ok
[08:18] <bob2> drcode: why do you want to upgrade your kernel?
[08:18] <ericmoritz> bob2: hmm?
[08:18] <Amaranth> Mr_Milenko: depending on what you're paying now an extra $20/month would probably get you broadband. :P
[08:18] <bob2> ericmoritz: the bot is looking for that file in ubuntu
[08:18] <drcode> I Have old one
[08:18] <ericmoritz> ah
[08:18] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:18] <Amaranth> Mr_Milenko: but that's 20/month vs 20 one time
[08:18] <Mr_Milenko> yeah but still..
[08:19] <DShepherd> hav0k: can you like drag the dvd icon that;s in the desktop to vlc?
[08:19] <bob2> drcode: and your kernel version is...?
[08:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libssl.so.2' returned no results.
[08:19] <Zealot87> bob2, so i apt-got ( :P ) cvs, and then ran the cvs terminal line that the site gave me, now? where is it? :P hahaha
[08:19] <Mr_Milenko> I usually support developers of stuff i use
[08:19] <Mr_Milenko> but damn..
[08:19] <hav0k> DShepherd, yeah, i had to go through the quick whatever and find it manually because typing it in didnt work
[08:19] <ericmoritz> hmm
[08:19] <bob2> Zealot87: yes, and it will be in the directory you run it in
[08:19] <bob2> ericmoritz: doesn't appear to be in ubuntu
[08:19] <hav0k> but i got it everyone!  it works.  thanks alot for all your help!
[08:19] <drcode> apt-get install  kernel-image-2.6-386  ?
[08:19] <nalioth> Zealot87: in your current directory
[08:19] <DShepherd> hav0k: what worked?
[08:19] <Zealot87> oh shit
[08:19] <Zealot87> i didnt got o a directory
[08:19] <hav0k> DShepherd, the dvd plays in VLC now
[08:20] <ericmoritz> bob2: any ideas on what I should do?
[08:20] <drcode> 2.6-14
[08:20] <DShepherd> hav0k: yeah, what did you do...that worked?
[08:20] <drcode> but my problem that in mistake I did it from debian web site
[08:20] <Amaranth> DShepherd: followed what ubotu told him, basically
[08:20] <hav0k> i went to "open quick file" and went into dev and found scd0 and chose it and it worked
[08:20] <Amaranth> !tell DShepherd about dvd
[08:20] <ericmoritz> beside complain to the company that built the vpn software for not making it a static binary
[08:21] <drcode> so I want to use breezy to update my kernel
[08:21] <Zealot87> bob2, ok it created a dir on my filesystem, but i dont understand, how do i run the app now? :P
[08:21] <hav0k> i guess what i was typing in for the disc wasnt right, but i guess ill just have to find it....
[08:21] <bob2> Zealot87: you read the instructions very very carefully
[08:21] <grahamoz> hmm
[08:21] <DShepherd> ok hav0k
[08:22] <hav0k> oh, and another question, how can i set it up to vlc be my main video player... so i can just click on the file and it will open up vlc instead of totme
[08:22] <DShepherd> thanks Amaranth
[08:22] <hav0k> or totem
[08:22] <Amaranth> hav0k: right click on the file and choose open with and choose vlc (or open with vlc if that's there)
[08:22] <bob2> ericmoritz: doesn't seem to be in Debian, either
[08:22] <ericmoritz> !+find libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[08:22] <Amaranth> hav0k: then all files of that type will open with vlc
[08:22] <bob2> ugh
[08:22] <bob2> !+redhat crap
[08:22] <ubotu> bob2: Syntax error in line 1
[08:22] <bob2> bah
[08:23] <Zealot87> grrr, i do not like this
[08:23] <hav0k> Amaranth, thats what i do, but i was wondering if there was a way to have it associated so that i only have to double click the file instead of right clicking and choosing vlc
[08:23] <bob2> f you're missing libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3, it's in woody's
[08:23] <bob2>                           libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package (get it from oldstable/woody archives since it's obsolete)
[08:23] <bob2> ericmoritz: ^^
[08:23] <ericmoritz> I symlink the existing libssl so to it
[08:23] <Amaranth> hav0k: after choosing it once it should have become the default
[08:23] <hav0k> oh
[08:23] <bob2> ericmoritz: libssl 2 sounds like a lost cause, tho...if this is desperate, perhaps digging it out of an old .rpm and using LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[08:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' returned no results.
[08:24] <Grug> is there and easy way to use kde instead of gnome?
[08:24] <nalioth> Grug: sure, choose it at the sessions menu when you log in
[08:24] <hav0k> hmmm, but it's not Amaranth.  it didnt become the default
[08:24] <Grug> ahhh ok
[08:24] <nalioth> Grug: you have to install kubuntu-desktop, first ,tho
[08:24] <Grug> oh
[08:24] <Grug> ok thanks
[08:24] <grigora> does anyone know how to make sure that when there are updates available, I get an icon on the top bar of my desktop? thank
[08:25] <Grug> is kde nicer than gnome?
[08:25] <grigora> thanks
[08:25] <Amaranth> hav0k: no clue then
[08:25] <hav0k> Amaranth, haha, okay
[08:25] <Amaranth> hav0k: maybe there is something in system->preferences
[08:25] <hav0k> Amaranth, yeah, ill look around
[08:25] <FarrisG> Anyone know if there's a howto or a Wiki page for configuring TV out as primary display with xorg and a Radeon card? I have it working for tty, but I don't know the sync/refresh settings to make it work with X. switching to X looks all wonky and unusable
[08:25] <intelikey> oooh is it a good idea to have multipal device nodes for the same device ?    i seem to have 3 dsp0's in 3 different dirs...
[08:26] <Grug> hi ubotu
[08:26] <Grug> :)
[08:29] <Amaranth> intelikey: I'm guessing two are symlinks.
[08:29] <_native_> i cant download the w32codecs from the link provided on the wiki.
[08:29] <intelikey> Amaranth no
[08:29] <_native_> i get connection refused
[08:29] <mustard5> w32codecs
[08:29] <intelikey> there are two symlinks also
[08:30] <mustard5> !w32codecs
[08:30] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/
[08:30] <Amaranth> _native_: yeah, because w32codecs is illegal and most places that had it removed it
[08:30] <mustard5> there is another link somewhere
[08:30] <mustard5> there it is :)
[08:30] <_native_> well fuc$%^&Z
[08:30] <blindpalmreader> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu Hoary, and the bottom portion (where the panel/trashbin should be) is hidden because the screen isnt expanded as it should be like in Windows, I searched the UbuntuForums and tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but this didn't work, how may I fix this?
[08:30] <_native_> ;-] 
[08:31] <nt13> spick russia ?
[08:31] <mustard5> its only illegal if you don't have a copy of windows
[08:31] <Octane> anyone know how i can limit a user to just one director and its subdirs
[08:31] <Octane> (for an ftp)
[08:31] <kvidell> s3
[08:31] <rabeldable> pavelich: still there ?
[08:31] <kvidell> ,,
[08:31] <kvidell> ..
[08:31] <pavelich> yeah i am here
[08:32] <pavelich> rabeldabel: what kinda cigs u smoke
[08:32] <Amaranth> !ru
[08:32] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[08:32] <rabeldable> nat sherman mints
[08:32] <nt13> 
[08:32] <intelikey> blindpalmreader maybe adjust your monitor ?
[08:32] <rabeldable> pavelich: did eclipse install ?
[08:32] <pavelich> yeah up and running
[08:32] <blindpalmreader> in other distributions I used some program to press arrow key left, right, up, down and it would move the desktop and I could save it but in Ubuntu Hoary I see no such program, please the bottom portion of my screen is hidden how do I fix this? what do I run? please?
[08:32] <pavelich> you familiar with the program at all
[08:32] <rabeldable> yeah that was easier right?
[08:32] <siimo> blindpalmreader, what graphic card and what resolution u at
[08:32] <pavelich> yeah way
[08:32] <rabeldable> no not familiar
[08:32] <intelikey> blindpalmreader not that i like that idea eather but will it work?
[08:32] <_native_> Octane; chroot jail 'em
[08:33] <pavelich> i didnt think to check for it in add apps
[08:33] <rabeldable> but i've been working on *nix for years
[08:33] <blindpalmreader> intelikey i try adjust monitor but when I do that, its ok in ubuntu but its not right in windows so i have to manually reset it up and down each reboot!!!
[08:33] <Octane> _native_: care to elaborate
[08:33] <blindpalmreader> intelikey until i boot into the other OS
[08:33] <siimo> blindpalmreader, do u use nvidia?
[08:33] <blindpalmreader> siimo yes
[08:33] <siimo> have you installed nvidia drivers
[08:33] <siimo> of still on nv
[08:33] <blindpalmreader> siimo yes
[08:33] <_native_> google for chroot users or jail users. or restricted shell.
[08:33] <blindpalmreader> siimo in xorg it says nvidia not nv
[08:33] <siimo> what resolution
[08:34] <_native_> restricted shell is good and easy.
[08:34] <blindpalmreader> siimo 1024x768 at 85
[08:34] <blindpalmreader> siimo I try 1024x768 at 60 and it still bad
[08:34] <intelikey> blindpalmreader yeah i have the same thing on one box.    i've found that disabling frame buffering fixed it on one distro.
[08:34] <siimo> blindpalmreader, so the screen is a little moved down thats all?
[08:34] <blindpalmreader> siimo yeah a lot!!
[08:34] <siimo> blindpalmreader, ok no problem, open a shell and type: xvidtune
[08:35] <blindpalmreader> intelikey what is frame buffering how do i disable and would that take away from nvidia support effects?
[08:35] <_native_> Octane; man bash |grep restricted
[08:35] <blindpalmreader> siimo xvidtune? that is it? :)
[08:35] <blindpalmreader> siimo oh that is the program where you click on arrow keys and it adjusts it no?
[08:35] <bert88> anyone know how to kill an application, I started playing 2 dvd's from my hard drive and i closed vlc player but the audio is still playing!!
[08:35] <siimo> blindpalmreader, no now use the up and down controls to adjust it
[08:35] <intelikey> blindpalmreader in the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it gives that option.
[08:35] <Octane> _native_: yes but how do i get a user to alwaysbe jailed into one dir
[08:35] <blindpalmreader> siimo xvidtune oh i thank you kindly for this help
[08:35] <intelikey> you might try it.
[08:36] <blindpalmreader> intelikey hi i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it did not give xvidtune option
[08:36] <_native_> google for chroot users or jail users.
[08:36] <pavelich> rabeldabbel: damn dude those cigs are expensive, how your start on those
[08:36] <blindpalmreader> intelikey dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg just asked me questions
[08:36] <siimo> blindpalmreader, and then you have to use the show button in xvidtune and add that ModeLine to your xorg file's monitor section
[08:36] <pavelich> or where u find out
[08:36] <mebaran151> does mencoder still cause hard halts on AMD64?
[08:36] <blindpalmreader> siimo i thank you for your kind help!
[08:36] <rabeldable> i just got 6 packs for $15
[08:36] <siimo> np
[08:36] <intelikey> mmmm no i was still talking about frame buffering blindpalmreader but the xvidtune thing.
[08:37] <pavelich> rabeldabel: i live in illinois so i have never seen those before, and aparently they dont ship to illinois
[08:37] <blindpalmreader> intelikey frame buffering how do i change this then too? :)
[08:37] <pavelich> rabeldabel: ahah oh
[08:37] <intelikey> blindpalmreader try the other first.
[08:37] <pavelich> well online they are 40 for 5
[08:38] <Mr_Milenko> if i were to get another modem.. do you think the drivers would be there already?
[08:38] <blindpalmreader> intelikey i will gladly  do that as siimo has suggested i too thank you for your help!
[08:38] <Mr_Milenko> or si there some kind of tool to "sniff" what kind of modem it is so i can look for the drivers
[08:38] <intelikey> np
[08:38] <blindpalmreader> Mr_Milenko scanmodem
[08:38] <Mr_Milenko> k
[08:39] <LathropWells> Mr_Milenko, did "lspci" give you enough info?
[08:39] <Mr_Milenko> did what?
[08:39] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:39] <LathropWells> ah "scanmodem" cool
[08:39] <Mr_Milenko> I've never used dialup with linux.. and other then that im still in the "newbie" category..
[08:39] <Mr_Milenko> so its a big pain in my ass atm
[08:39] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[08:40] <hit3k> Anyone here good with networks?
[08:40] <Amaranth> Like most things it either works and works perfectly or doesn't work at all and needs lots of effort to make it work.
[08:40] <pavelich> rabeldabel: alright dude thanks for the help, i am goin to bed, hope to talk again sometime, and i hope i am a little more proficient in linux next time we see each other as well, later
[08:41] <LathropWells> Mr_Milenko, It gets a lot easier with a little practice.
[08:42] <Mr_Milenko> I know enough right now not to break anything..
[08:43] <intelikey> Mr_Milenko you know a lot more than me
[08:43] <Mr_Milenko> I've actually been playing with linux distros for about 5 years lol.. sadly i still dont know what to do most fo the time.. never really got into it
[08:43] <Mr_Milenko> >_<
[08:43] <Mr_Milenko> and being on dialup.. boredom has forced me to learn
[08:43] <Mr_Milenko> :)
[08:43] <intelikey> lol
[08:44] <siimo> Mr_Milenko, gnome-ppp work?
[08:44] <Mr_Milenko> like a charm
[08:44] <siimo> good
[08:44] <Mr_Milenko> now im looking for a work-around to get my drivers faster
[08:44] <Mr_Milenko> damn linuxant..
[08:44] <siimo> 14.4K ?
[08:44] <siimo> lol
[08:44] <Mr_Milenko> yeah lol
[08:44] <siimo> if 56 wasnt bad enough
[08:44] <Mr_Milenko> it was un-bearable...
[08:44] <Mr_Milenko> i had to load windows
[08:44] <Mr_Milenko> >_<
[08:44] <mustard5> :)
[08:45] <Joe1> Hiya people, I installed kde on my ubuntu (basically its now kubuntu) however because im using an older screen at 800x600 some windows hang off screen, any suggestions on how to fix?
[08:45] <Mr_Milenko> it would time-out during connections to websites and stuff
[08:45] <Mr_Milenko> but pinging websites worked
[08:45] <Mr_Milenko> O_o
[08:45] <RehanSAlvi> if I'm a windows user and have had zero experience with Linux in the past, would it be a bad idea for me to try to install Ubuntu on a spare laptop I have lying around?
[08:45] <siimo> Joe1, sounds bad i saw this somewhere on the forum too even on a 1024x768 screen
[08:45] <Mr_Milenko> RehanSAlvi: nope.. thats a perfect idea
[08:45] <rob1> RehanSAlvi, no go for it
[08:45] <siimo> KarlosII, it needs testing thats why
[08:45] <KarlosII> and ubuntu doesn't?
[08:46] <wickedpuppy> RehanSAlvi, there is live cd ...
[08:46] <siimo> ubuntu tested theirs during the beta phase
[08:46] <KarlosII> seems like a duplication of work to me
[08:46] <siimo> debian doesn't till 2.12 final is out
[08:46] <Joe1> siimo isnt there a fix for it then, obviously I do plan to get a new monitor soon but its just annoying lol
[08:46] <Mr_Milenko> I didnt have any computers lieing around.. i actually modded my xbox just so i can play around with GentooX (accidently formatted my whole xbox harddrive to ext2 but yeah..)
[08:46] <siimo> KarlosII, well there are 100's of distros. duplication ?
[08:46] <KarlosII> hmm
[08:46] <Mr_Milenko> that was a b**ch to fix..
[08:46] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:46] <KarlosII> slimo no need to comment further, sighs
[08:46] <KarlosII> dang duplication
[08:47] <nicholaspaul> bob2: just talking to nalioth about MA111 chipsets...
[08:47] <brownie17> can someone tell me how to change wine so programs think it is windows XP, rather than 98?
[08:47] <Mr_Milenko> buy vmware
[08:48] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[08:48] <siimo> Mr_Milenko, qemu is free
[08:48] <KarlosII> too bad vmware didn't do direct3d gfx
[08:48] <Amaranth> brownie17: lots of apps break when they think they've got XP
[08:48] <Mr_Milenko> well yeah..
[08:48] <Mr_Milenko> qemu is nice.. but i found it a pain myself
[08:48] <Mr_Milenko> but once you get ti setup: qemu > vmware
[08:48] <tsume> mm, question. What happened to PLF repos?
[08:49] <tsume> I have the debs still, but now the repos is gone
[08:49] <brownie17> Amaranth, i know, i will change it back once im am done with this specific program. you know how?
[08:49] <Amaranth> brownie17: i think in winecfg
[08:49] <brownie17> Amaranth, any more info? where is winecfg?
[08:49] <fort> hi i am new to linux and i was wondering if i have two hard drives formatted for windows if i format one of them for linux, if i can use the other one for linux as well without formatting it and keeping all the data?
[08:49] <Amaranth> brownie17: *shrug*
[08:50] <rob1> fort, ?
[08:50] <Bahamut> i've a question for you all and i'm quite new to Ubuntu...How do you setup the ftp server and web server? is it graphical or text mode? thanks for any help/replies...
[08:50] <Amaranth> fort: as long as the windows partition is fat32 and not ntfs
[08:50] <siimo> fort, if its FAT32 then yes, ntfs will be read only
[08:50] <LathropWells> !isp
[08:50] <ubotu> LathropWells: I don't know
[08:50] <fort> hmm im not sure im using the ubuntu live cd now
[08:51] <fort> but like
[08:51] <LathropWells> Bahmatu - give me a sec i will find the howt on using ubuntu as a webhost.
[08:51] <fort> i want to format the drive that windows is on
[08:51] <wickedpuppy> fort, you are not sure ?
[08:51] <fort> and then keep all the data from the other hard drive
[08:51] <fort> not sure whether its fat32 or ntfs
[08:51] <Bahamut> since Ubuntu is so much faster than windows...i'm wanting to directly migrate to it...THANK YOU! i've looked all over for documentation...haven't found much yet for Ubuntu's servers though
[08:52] <nalioth> fort: you can do that easily
[08:52] <nalioth> Bahamut: help.ubuntu.com
[08:52] <fort> how nalioth
[08:52] <Madpilot> fort: which version of Windows?
[08:52] <fort> XP
[08:52] <dell500> anyone know how to get 'aticonfig --dtop=horizontal' to work? i get an this error: Warning: Option 'DesktopSetup' doesn't affect running session.
[08:52] <rob1> there is going to be a server doc for dapper too
[08:52] <Bahamut> been there done that...no documentation as i said earlier
[08:52] <Madpilot> fort: then the drives are probably NTFS
[08:52] <Bahamut> i've searched and all...possibly not correctly but i've searched for it
[08:52] <brownie17> anyone know how to change wine to tell apps it is windows xp?
[08:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fort about dualboot
[08:52] <LathropWells> http://howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10 Bahamut
[08:52] <Mr_Milenko> Bahamut: you mean setup Ubuntu as a server OS?
[08:53] <Bahamut> yeah but i wish to keep the GUI
[08:53] <fort> nah i dont want to dualboot
[08:53] <fort> i dont want windows anymore
[08:53] <Mr_Milenko> so MySQL, PHP, and FTPd, and all that right?
[08:53] <nalioth> fort: then thats even easier
[08:53] <boobekb> hi
[08:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fort about mountwindows
[08:54] <intelikey> dell500 i'd say just from reading the warning you posted that it is working.  it is just telling you that you will have to restart x for the changes to take affect.
[08:54] <Mr_Milenko> well for a nice webserver setup you could install LAMP (Linux Apache MySQL PHP)
[08:54] <silversurfer> yoputain
[08:54] <Mr_Milenko> theres alot of FTP servers and clients.. just search through synaptic for em
[08:54] <Madpilot> !tell Bahamut about lamp
[08:54] <Bahamut> i'm lookin up lamp right now
[08:54] <LathropWells> lamp is VERY good
[08:54] <Bahamut> that howtoforge.com is pretty good on information though...thank you LathropWells!
[08:54] <dell500> intelikey, wouldn't it tell me that it had written it to the config file though
[08:55] <Mr_Milenko> and you might wanna install webmin for remote setup of certain stuff (basically its Control panel for webservers)
[08:55] <Mr_Milenko> sound good Bahamut?
[08:55] <Madpilot> Bahamut: ubotu should have sent you a URL from the Ubuntu wiki, which is pretty straightforward
[08:55] <intelikey> dell500 i'm not familear with that app but as a general rule in linux "no error, means no error"
[08:55] <tekeo> I have ubuntu but I used the command: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:56] <tekeo> and with kde I can only "log out"
[08:56] <tekeo> and not shutdown
[08:56] <tekeo> this annoyes me some
[08:56] <Zambba> are you using kdm as your display manager?
[08:56] <tekeo> yes
[08:56] <dell500> intelikey, agreed
[08:56] <fort> nalioth, if its NTFS will i be able to use it in ubuntu?
[08:57] <nalioth> fort: yes, you will. ntfs is read-only under linux, though
[08:57] <hit3k> that bugs me
[08:57] <fort> ahh so i won't be able to put files on it?
[08:57] <tekeo> is there anyway to add commands to the "log out screen"?
[08:57] <hit3k> all my windows hd's are ntfs
[08:57] <hit3k> nalioth, do you know anyways to write to NTFS paritions?
[08:58] <nalioth> hit3k: run windows
[08:58] <hit3k> besides that :P
[08:58] <tekeo> I think there are some experimental stuff for that...
[08:58] <nalioth> hit3k: writing to ntfs is apt to lead to a free partition
[08:58] <tekeo> anyway when I used gentoo
[08:58] <intelikey> just wish i knew what keeps causing this ]  input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0  line to interrupt my display and the keyboard doesn't work for the two seconds while the led's are lit up.     it doesn't interrupt audio output, or file transfer tho.
[08:58] <tekeo> in the kernel
[08:59] <fort> ahh well thanks, i'll be back later once i've installed ubuntu
[08:59] <tekeo> check the kernel if U really want to, but I have used it a while, but don't bug me if it screws up
[08:59] <tekeo> hello nalioth
[09:00] <tekeo> do you know how to enable shut down from kubuntu-desktop?
[09:00] <KarlosII> ubuntu rulz
[09:00] <tsume> LathropWells: except he PHP part os LAMP. Ruby is a much better lanugage with rails
[09:00] <nalioth> tekeo: k menu, logout
[09:00] <tekeo> I use ubuntu
[09:01] <tekeo> I just got one option...
[09:01] <tekeo> exit current sessionb
[09:01] <tekeo> *session
[09:01] <tsume> LathropWells: you see.. PHP is basically Eruby (embeded ruby in webpages) since php has no decent framework on its own. there is rails ;)
[09:01] <LathropWells> Ruby is nicer
[09:01] <nalioth> tekeo: thats the one. click that and you can then shut down
[09:01] <LathropWells> ruby on rails is the latest and greatest.
[09:01] <nalioth> tekeo: or open a konsole and type "sudo shutdown -h now"
[09:01] <rabeldable> nalioth: i sent you a message, can you help?
[09:01] <tsume> LathropWells: *shrug*
[09:01] <tsume> LathropWells: its the latest buzz work yes, but now why I use it :P
[09:01] <Bahamut> Thank you all for your help...documentation seems to be the key to my problem...i'll print it and read over it slowly...i like security...
[09:02] <Zealot87> so why is it a bad idea to install debian packages>?
[09:02] <Bahamut> thank you all again
[09:02] <tsume> *not why
[09:02] <nalioth> rabeldable: you are not listening. you CAN NOT send priv msgs on this network until you register your nick
[09:02] <tekeo> I know KDE for gods sake
[09:02] <tekeo> I just got one option in the log out screen
[09:02] <tekeo> and I want to add other options
[09:02] <rabeldable> nalioth: i tried to regiester but I'm not sure if it worked
[09:02] <LathropWells> My site is burned to a lamopix cdrom - not a webmaster by any means.
[09:02] <nalioth> rabeldable: it has not
[09:02] <intelikey> i like 'sudo init 0'  for shutdown
[09:02] <LathropWells> lol
[09:03] <tekeo> easy version: I have to get to login screen before I can press shutdown
[09:03] <Alex> intelikey: i prefer to kill terms myself and coax my bios to turn the system off with magnets,,
[09:03] <Alex> s/terms/procs/
[09:03] <rabeldable> nalioth: i think i'm doing the command in the wrong place
[09:03] <intelikey> i seee.
[09:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rabeldable about register
[09:04] <intelikey> sometimes i just unplug the thing from the wall.....
[09:04] <Cindy> hey guys how could i add user accounts to my ldap server?? anybody knows?
[09:05] <intelikey> i call it super-power down.
[09:05] <RehanSAlvi> whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[09:05] <Mr_Milenko> ya know whats fun... taking a computer tower and putting it in a microwave
[09:05] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: gnome and kde
[09:05] <Cindy> is there anyone here an expert about ldap in ubuntu?
[09:05] <Mr_Milenko> ya know those HUGE microwaves for resturants
[09:05] <Mr_Milenko> now thems some fireworks
[09:05] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[09:06] <RehanSAlvi> nalioth: gnome and kde? could you explain it better please?
[09:06] <Mr_Milenko> Ubuntu comes with GNOME
[09:06] <Mr_Milenko> Kubuntu comes with KDE
[09:06] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: ubuntu uses gnome as it's DE, and kubuntu uses KDE as it's DE (we also have xubuntu, which uses XFCE4
[09:06] <tekeo> I use ubuntu with kde
[09:06] <tekeo> works LOTS better than kubuntu for me ;)
[09:06] <Cindy> :((
[09:07] <Mr_Milenko> hush you
[09:07] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[09:07] <nalioth> tekeo: it's the same thing
[09:07] <tekeo> kubuntu was LOTS buggier
[09:07] <intelikey> RehanSAlvi one 'ubuntu' installs gnome nad the other 'kubuntu' installs kde as the default desktop but you can install either or none on either.
[09:07] <tekeo> there I could barely listen to music before it screwed up konpyuutaa
[09:07] <vbgunz> hello everyone, does hibernate work or is it in alpha or something? I choose to hibernate the computer on logout and it shuts down quick... *then* upon startup, it stops and hangs forever... I have to hard boot to get out and restart... Does hibernate work? How do I troubleshoot this?
[09:08] <Mr_Milenko> what makes me mad is that ubuntu didnt have mp3 codecs in it :(
[09:08] <Mr_Milenko> out of the box*
[09:08] <Mr_Milenko> i had to struggle on the internet!
[09:08] <Mr_Milenko> 8(
[09:08] <DShepherd> Mr_Milenko: there is a reason though
[09:08] <sunshine82> gtk-gnutella keep freezin on me does anyone know how i can fx this
[09:08] <Mr_Milenko> yeah
[09:08] <bert88> lots of distros dont have an mp3 decoder
[09:09] <Mr_Milenko> mp3 == bad
[09:09] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[09:09] <Mr_Milenko> i know
[09:09] <LathropWells> mp3 = bad
[09:09] <DShepherd> Mr_Milenko: ok :)
[09:09] <bert88> mp3=MPAA idiots
[09:09] <Madpilot> Mr_Milenko: patents = legal trouble for people who break them. Even stupid patents.
[09:09] <Mr_Milenko> RIAA*
[09:09] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[09:09] <Madpilot> both...
[09:09] <vbgunz> also, is there a program that will *remember* my window layouts? It really urks that most windows such as gaim, gnome-terminal, evince, eye of gnome, and so many others always reset themselves... it is truly an annoyance... Is there any program that will *remember* window layouts and restore them upon a program launch?
[09:09] <bert88> them too hehe
[09:09] <Mr_Milenko> MPAA would be avi mpeg bert88 ;)
[09:10] <bert88> yep, had a mental blank
[09:10] <LathropWells> Heh "one click ordering" pateneted by amazon. Mini games during games loadscreens patented. - it goes on and on.
[09:10] <bert88> LMAO, well they are both idiots imho
[09:10] <Mr_Milenko> who the hell came up with the "Slaps you with a trout" anyways?
[09:11] <RehanSAlvi> nalioth: ok so if its my first time using linux, would it be better to go with a kubuntu or ubuntu install?
[09:11] <bert88> someone who's a fisherman hehe
[09:11] <vbgunz> Mr_Milenko: the samantha show...
[09:11] <intelikey> vbgunz in 'ked' click the upper left corner of an app window and tell it to remember, but i don't know about gnome.
[09:11] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: you can install all 3 and choose the one you like
[09:11] <Mr_Milenko> depends on what your used too
[09:11] <Mr_Milenko> do you use windows? or mac?
[09:11] <RehanSAlvi> Windows
[09:11] <Mr_Milenko> then id say use KDE
[09:11] <Mr_Milenko> :)
[09:11] <LathropWells> RehanSAlvi, - try both. - most prefer gnome for it's lightness and elegant simplicity.
[09:11] <Mr_Milenko> KDE looks a bit like windows
[09:12] <Mr_Milenko> GNOME looks a bit like mac
[09:12] <Mr_Milenko> thats just my opinion though
[09:12] <RehanSAlvi> do they have the same features?
[09:12] <bert88> agree KDE is way too much like windows
[09:12] <vbgunz> intelikey: you mean KDE? I am on Gnome and Windows reset there placement, size, etc to default and it is yucking annoying...
[09:12] <rabeldable> I recommend installing both... some kde apps don't work on gnome
[09:12] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: pretty much they do
[09:12] <intelikey> yes typo 'kde'
[09:12] <RehanSAlvi> i can have both of them run simultaneously?
[09:13] <Mr_Milenko> RehanSAlvi: install ubuntu.. then type sudo apt-get install kde
[09:13] <rabeldable> RehanSAlvi: no one at a time, unless you have vmware or something
[09:13] <vbgunz> RehanSAlvi: I believe you can have both installed and you might be able to run sessions with each...
[09:13] <nalioth> Mr_Milenko: thats "kubuntu-desktop"
[09:13] <intelikey> vbgunz i said that hopping you would click around and find something in gnome....
[09:13] <Mr_Milenko> just install ubuntu then install kde and xfce
[09:13] <RehanSAlvi> ok
[09:13] <Mr_Milenko> nalioth: my bad..
[09:13] <bert88> why would you want to run both? can you run win2k and XP at the same time?
[09:13] <Mr_Milenko> you guys and your special names for stuff lol
[09:13] <Mr_Milenko> yes bert88
[09:13] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[09:13] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: vbgunz is correct, if you have a high-horsepower machine, you can run gnome and kde simultaneously (not advise, tho)
[09:14] <vbgunz> intelikey: nope, Gnome doesn't help in remembering size and placement... I always have to reposition and size everything
[09:14] <RehanSAlvi> i'm looking at the ubuntu site and can't seem to find system requirements for it...anyone know if I'll have problems on a P3 700 Mhz with 128 ram?
[09:14] <nalioth> Mr_Milenko: installing kde doesnt get you a full kde desktop
[09:14] <intelikey> you can have gnome and kde installed, yes.
[09:14] <LathropWells> !hardware
[09:14] <ubotu> from memory, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:15] <No1Viking> Are there any guide for breezy as there was for Hoary?
[09:15] <Madpilot> !docs
[09:15] <ubotu> I guess docs is an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[09:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell No1Viking about faq
[09:15] <intelikey> vbgunz right click on the title bar at the top of a window doesn't give you an option to configure things ?
[09:15] <rabeldable> RehanSAlvi: that hardware config will not be the problem, what type of video card, NIC, monitor do you have?  for 128 MB ram create extra large swap (>1GB)
[09:15] <Zealot87> can i create an NTFS partition in ubuntu? or at least a FAT32?
[09:16] <intelikey> Zealot87 fat32 yes
[09:16] <blank> when i try to install windows on my other drive, and i delete the partitions on the drive and make a new one, it keeps saying it's not of windows format, so i make it again and it still doesnt work, I think I'm running LVM, if im correct, lvm takes both drives as one? how can i make sure this isnt the case
[09:16] <LathropWells> qtparted will create partitions so will gparted i think
[09:17] <Zealot87> blank same happens to me, but i dont have an lvm partition
[09:17] <blank> Zealot87: how did you fix it :(
[09:17] <Zealot87> i only have two partitions on the drive, one is a FAT 32 and the other is empty
[09:17] <blank> I have 2 drives, one is ubuntu, the other I wanna use for windows, but that happens
[09:17] <Zealot87> i dunno, i have the same problem!
[09:17] <blank> so how we gonna fix it
[09:17] <Zealot87> the fdisk that comes on windows cd is extremely sucky
[09:18] <blank> lol
[09:18] <Zealot87> heh
[09:18] <vbgunz> intelikey: yes, gnome does have options and they're not entirely useless... I mean it has some good options but nothing to remember a windows size and placement on screen... It doesn't even have tiling or cascading management which is something I never knew I used so much... I am sort of bugging out about the Window manager because it seems it works hard against you by always resetting your windows, etc... For example, the terminal I woul
[09:18] <Zealot87> well
[09:18] <blank> i just want to like, erase the whole fucken drive and install windows over it
[09:18] <Zealot87> i am gonna try once mroe right now
[09:18] <blank> i tried twice
[09:18] <Zealot87> ill be back in the channel later if it works or anything
[09:18] <blank> didnt work
[09:18] <Zealot87> hmm
[09:18] <Zealot87> there isnt much you can do
[09:18] <blank> maybe we should ask in a windows irc
[09:18] <blank> can you format a drive with recovery console
[09:19] <Zealot87> OH! i was considering creating a FAT32 partition in ubuntu
[09:19] <ceywj> name wenjin
[09:19] <blank> what Zealot87
[09:19] <LathropWells> gparted or qtparted another popular debian distribution on live cd whose name begins with a kn***ix  includes qtparted - very handy
[09:19] <Zealot87> can you apt-get qparted?
[09:19] <luis_> hi
[09:19] <nalioth> Zealot87: it should be installed by default
[09:20] <intelikey> vbgunz that's why i don't use gnome.
[09:20] <luis_> someone know a program like dreamweaver for linux???
[09:20] <Zealot87> oh yeah i think i have to put it in the apps menuy
[09:20] <intelikey> vbgunz i can't force myself to like it.
[09:20] <rob1> luis_, try nvu
[09:20] <rob1> not quite the same though
[09:20] <LathropWells> Zealot - yes tho the drawback is that it requires KDE libs (large download) - gparted might be the best to try on an installed system.
[09:20] <blank> Zealot87, you hav eit installed
[09:20] <vbgunz> intelikey: :P
[09:21] <Zealot87> where is it>?
[09:21] <Edgardoweb> hello
[09:21] <blank> sup
[09:22] <luis_> someone know a program like dreamweaver for linux???
[09:22] <mustard5> luis_, nothing as fancy as dreamweaver :)
[09:22] <wickedpuppy> luis_, someone already replied to ya
[09:22] <mustard5> luis_, nvu is in the repositories
[09:22] <blank> how can i tell if my ubuntu is installed on hda or hda2
[09:22] <wickedpuppy> rob1, in fact... he asked you to try nvu
[09:22] <intelikey> blank df
[09:23] <blank> just type df?
[09:23] <luis_> ok
[09:23] <luis_> thanks
[09:23] <mustard5> :)
[09:23] <Madpilot> blank: yes, in a terminal
[09:23] <blank> i wanna erase hda2 to install windows on it, how can i do that
[09:23] <luis_> nvu support for site management?
[09:23] <bert88> you can run dreamwaever with crossover office under linux
[09:23] <spiral> hi
[09:24] <vbgunz> anybody know how to build a super cheap computer? Dual Xeon Hyper Threading 4 GIGS RAM 200GB HDD 5 bucks?
[09:24] <Madpilot> luis_: I think so
[09:24] <vbgunz> :P
[09:24] <blank> gparted doesnt let me delete partitions on my hda2
[09:24] <intelikey> blank cfdisk /dev/hda   and remove the second partition
[09:24] <blank> it seems as if nothing lets me delete anything on my hda2
[09:25] <luis_> i don't know "what is corssover office"
[09:25] <wickedpuppy> luis_, you know google ?
[09:25] <intelikey> blank did you use "sudo cfdisk /dev/hda " ?
[09:25] <rob1> hehe
[09:25] <bert88> www.crossoveroffice.com i think
[09:25] <Zealot87> blank, im running now ill see if it works
[09:25] <blank> intelikey: i did /dev/hda, it doesnt say anything about hda2, just my ubuntu ones (the other drive)
[09:26] <luis_> google????
[09:26] <Zealot87> blank, did you unmount the drive?
[09:26] <wickedpuppy> yes luis_ google
[09:26] <wickedpuppy> you know anything about google.com ? googling ?
[09:26] <intelikey> blank then maybe you have deleted hda2 already....
[09:26] <bert88> google the search engine www.google.com
[09:27] <intelikey> blank make a partition of the free space
[09:27] <luis_> yes i know
[09:27] <blank> intelikey: huh
[09:27] <luis_> but i'm newer in linux
[09:27] <bert88> so that stope you searching google?
[09:27] <wickedpuppy> luis_, good ... use google for things you do not understand
[09:27] <LathropWells> take a peek at hackaday.com for some handy google tips
[09:28] <Zealot87> blank, unmounting the partition should let you delete in qparted
[09:28] <luis_> i always use google
[09:28] <blank> intelikey: i installed ubuntu on my hda1, i wanna install windows on my old ubuntu install on my hda2, when i go to windows install and delete partitions on my hda2, it doesnt let me, it makes some [raw]  partition, and then it says it's not a windows thing
[09:28] <blank> Zealot87, doesnt even let me unmount, it's not mounted
[09:28] <wickedpuppy> luis_, great .. google for crossover office and nvu ..
[09:28] <luis_> but is easiest ask here :-D
[09:29] <bert88> fot you it is ;0~
[09:29] <bert88> for
[09:29] <wickedpuppy> luis_, its easy for us to ask you to google too
[09:29] <wickedpuppy> lol
[09:29] <tekeo> how do I find my kde version?
[09:29] <Zealot87> hmmm i dunno
[09:29] <Zealot87> that is strange
[09:29] <Zealot87> ok im gonna try this, be back if it doesnt work
[09:29] <bert88> lol@wickedpuppy
[09:29] <intelikey> blank you are sure you understand gnulinux disk addressing ?    device hda is the first ide drive hdb is the second ide drive hdc is the third ide drive......   hd?1 is the first partition of that drive hd?2 is the second partition.....
[09:30] <RehanSAlvi> if i want to have all traces of windows off my laptop before installing ubuntu, do i need to do anything or will the install CD allow me to clear everything first?
[09:30] <ubuntu> whoz there
[09:30] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: it will gladly eat your windows as a prelude to installation
[09:30] <RehanSAlvi> excellent
[09:30] <blank> umount -l /mnt/hdb will unmount it right?
[09:31] <RehanSAlvi> im downloading ubuntu right now :-)
[09:31] <rob1> RehanSAlvi, evilentity linux makes a point of doing it
[09:31] <RehanSAlvi> i thought microsoft was the evil one :-P
[09:32] <bert88> thats why it will delete it for you ;0)
[09:32] <blank> nevermind i think im done
[09:32] <blank> thanks, bye
[09:32] <blank> kthxbye
[09:32] <LathropWells> Rehan - likely you will want to copy ndiswrapper   wlan drivers to CD so you can set wireless
[09:32] <LathropWells> !ndiswrapper
[09:32] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[09:33] <vbgunz> anybody know of any programs that help *remember and restore* windows size and placement?
[09:33] <intelikey> so do you think i could run ubuntu on a box with only 32m ram ?
[09:34] <mebaran151> intelikey, not likely
[09:34] <mebaran151> you might want to try VectorLinux
[09:34] <vbgunz> intelikey: highly doubt that... I mean Gnome probably not but IceWM I heard is small and fast... also enlightenment is supposed to be the fastest... you might wish to check it out
[09:34] <mustard5> Mabus06, you around?
[09:34] <mebaran151> Enlightenment is the prettiest
[09:34] <mebaran151> FWVM is the fastest
[09:34] <intelikey> fluxbox
[09:34] <picca> how do i make ubuntu into kubuntu - i've downloaded kdesktop but not sure how i make it use kde instead of gnome
[09:34] <intelikey> vbgunz think small think fluxbox
[09:34] <mebaran151> and IceVM and XFCE tie for nice middle tier
[09:35] <mustard5> picca, if you have them both installed, then you log out and choose KDE as your session then log in
[09:35] <pvh> !beagle
[09:35] <ubotu> well, beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto
[09:35] <picca> okay thanks mustard5
[09:35] <picca> will try that now
[09:35] <mustard5> k
[09:35] <vbgunz> hey look on this page... this guy compared some and found Enlightenment to be the fastest http://www.rasterman.com/index.php?page=News
[09:35] <mebaran151> Enlightenment is meant to be pretty though I 'thunked
[09:36] <DShepherd> bye!!! gone to bed...lata!!
[09:36] <vbgunz> I tried the enlightenment Gnome trick *but* didn't like it... I might try it again...
[09:39] <sunshine82> im tryin to set up flphoto but i dont understand this: (Run the make program to compile the software on your system:
[09:39] <sunshine82> 	make)
[09:40] <blank> how cna you find out if you're using lvm
[09:41] <intelikey> hmmm i now have, DSL'inux installed and running with xorg + fluxbox  dillo and all the trimmings that go with dsl  on  a box with 32m ram and no swap.    just to disspell the myth!
[09:41] <blank> how can I see if I'm running LVM
[09:41] <intelikey> linux doesn't have to be bloated.
[09:41] <intelikey> blank 'ps -A x '
[09:42] <blank> thanks
[09:42] <blank> intelikey: I meant lvm the thing for hard drives
[09:42] <blank> l volume manager, i forgot what l was
[09:42] <luis_> bert88, crossoveroffice is not free
[09:43] <bert88> i didnt say it was
[09:43] <intelikey> if there is a daemon running it should show up there,   me thinks...
[09:44] <bert88> seems everybody who uses linux assumes everything is free
[09:44] <vbgunz> luis_: wine is free and is I believe made by the same people who make crossoveroffice... It seems the COO is the premium version with some extras or something to it... I don't use either... Go to winehq.com maybe there is something there for you...
[09:44] <intelikey> bert88 mmmm no we just don't like things that arent.
[09:44] <sunshine82> ive got it congure but how do i use make
[09:44] <dvhart> can anyone tell me how to set the mtu automatically on my desktops?  they get their ip from my dhcp server, and I need the mtu to be set to 1492, not the default of 1500
[09:44] <RehanSAlvi> is additional software free for Ubuntu?
[09:44] <bert88> LOL
[09:44] <vbgunz> intelikey: so you mean you're running on 32MB ram just fine? Not Gnome/Metacity *but* something else? "fluxbox dillo"?
[09:45] <vbgunz> RehanSAlvi: yes, about 16,000 free titles I believe I read somewhere... go to Synaptic and browse around...
[09:45] <blank> hey guys, how can I tell if I'm running LVM
[09:45] <blank> the something volume manager
[09:45] <intelikey> yes vbgunz dsl is running right beside me on another box with 32m ram and no swap.
[09:45] <vbgunz> dsl? what is that a version of Linux?
[09:45] <intelikey> yes
[09:46] <NewWithoutClue> damn small
[09:46] <vbgunz> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[09:46] <luis_> most people maybe thinks that... not for me
[09:46] <matte> matte
[09:46] <blank> can anyone type 'whereis lvm' for me, and see if you have it in /etc/lvm/ too
[09:46] <bert88> night all
[09:47] <blank> somebody, please
[09:47] <Mr_Milenko> Fluxbox pwns your sould.
[09:47] <intelikey> blank i have lvmtab.d  but lvm is not installed here.
[09:47] <Mr_Milenko> soul*
[09:47] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[09:47] <sunshine82> i've tried  sudo make /home/sunshine/flphoto-1.2/
[09:47] <sunshine82>  and im gettin this error : Makefile:335: Dependencies: No such file or directory
[09:47] <sunshine82> make: *** No rule to make target `Dependencies'.  Stop.
[09:48] <blank> does anyone else have lvm, please
[09:48] <Mr_Milenko> and if you REALLY want a windows like "desktop" install IceWM and Rox-Filer
[09:48] <Mr_Milenko> rofl
[09:48] <sunshine82> what does it mean
[09:48] <No1Viking> whereis lvm
[09:48] <No1Viking> lvm: /sbin/lvm /etc/lvm /usr/share/man/man8/lvm.8.gz
[09:48] <wickedpuppy> sunshine82, just type make
[09:48] <blank> No1Viking: me too, but do you have lvm enabled?
[09:49] <sunshine82> im gettin the same error about dependies
[09:49] <blank> when you installed, you enable it?
[09:49] <No1Viking> blank, nope
[09:49] <sunshine82> wickedpuppy im gettin the same error
[09:49] <vbgunz> Mr_Milenko: I tried iceWM not because it was like Windows which is what it really is like *but* because I heard it was small and fast and looked good... Something about me need for my GUI environment to look good so I stood with Gnome... I themed it nicely...
[09:49] <wickedpuppy> sunshine82, go to /flphoto01.2/
[09:49] <wickedpuppy> and type make
[09:49] <blank> I think I have lvm enabled, cuase when I delete my other hd, it re-creates the partition by itself
[09:49] <intelikey> blank it seems to be autoloaded if there are any lvm volumes
[09:50] <Mr_Milenko> IceWM is a pretty nice window manager
[09:50] <blank> intelikey, huh?
[09:50] <vbgunz> Mr_Milenko: its cool but I quickly missed out on Gnome and its features, etc...
[09:50] <intelikey> so remove lvm ?
[09:50] <sunshine82> wickedpuppy do u want me to cd flphoto-1.2
[09:51] <intelikey> here i go with the 'bad advice' again guys!    come repremand me.
[09:51] <wickedpuppy> sunshine82, yes .. to the directory you un tar the program source
[09:51] <blank> I want to disable/remove lvm
[09:51] <LathropWells> http://www.rasterman.com/index.php?page=News Read this and got excited about the Enlightenment desktop.   Can it be installed and configured easily?
[09:51] <intelikey> blank if you are having a real problem with lvm  maybe you can apt-get remove -purge lvm
[09:52] <sunshine82> wickedpuppy i tried that already im gettin gthis error make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[09:52] <mebaran151> I think I am going to switch back to i686
[09:52] <mebaran151> AMD64 is just a hassle at the moment
[09:52] <mebaran151> the extra gain in fps for encoding
[09:52] <wickedpuppy> sunshine82, have you ./configure ?
[09:52] <blank> intelikey: you know what lvm is right?
[09:52] <mebaran151> is totally lost to hard halts
[09:53] <LathropWells> Ouch. - that is bad news
[09:54] <blank> intelikey: i need your help, you know waht lvm is right? how can I uninstall/remove/disable it
[09:54] <mebaran151> LathropWells, you heard anything about AMD64 and mencoder
[09:54] <blank> I think it's creating a partition on my other drive when i dont want it to
[09:54] <mattfury> hi
[09:54] <mebaran151> it works fine uner i686 at around 2/3 the speed
[09:54] <mattfury> I have a problem
[09:54] <sunshine82> wickedpuppy that what i was doin wrong i configure like this /home/sunshine/flphoto-1.2
[09:54] <wickedpuppy> sunshine82, can you go to that directory ? pls ...
[09:55] <mattfury> i am getting "no screens" after i installed the flavio ti drivers. can someone help?
[09:55] <LathropWells> hm - no. - i have seen a few mentions of AMD64 users not using 64bits - ishouldn't be that way.
[09:55] <sunshine82> wickedpuppy thaks it done now
[09:55] <LathropWells> Wish me luck - going to try Enlightenment desktop.
[09:55] <wickedpuppy> sunshine82, type ./configure
[09:55] <intelikey> blank if you have raid'd the two drives (by choice or not) then you will probably end up wiping both to fix it.    and no i don't know enough to help on that.
[09:56] <blank> i dont have raid, i have lvm
[09:56] <intelikey> and lvm is ?
[09:57] <sunshine82> wickedpuppy i did all three in the directory
[09:57] <blank> i dont know
[09:57] <wickedpuppy> sunshine82, all 3 ? name all of them
[09:57] <blank> I just want to disable/remove lvm
[09:57] <blank> someone please help me ! :'(
[09:57] <sunshine82> wickedpuppy i cd flphoto-1.2 then i ./configure make, and make install
[09:58] <sunshine82> wickedpuppy but how do i open it now
[09:58] <wickedpuppy> sunshine82, then you have the program ... btw make install should be in sudo
[09:58] <wickedpuppy> sunshine82, type flpho then tab .. you know how to use bash completion right ?
[09:59] <intelikey> blank what will happen if you "sudo apt-get remove lvm2 " ?
[09:59] <intelikey> or better still lvm-common
[10:00] <sunshine82> wickedpuppy ive tried typin flphoto-1.2 and im gettin an error bash: flphoto-1.2: command not found
[10:00] <Alberto> Hi ! Got a problem with GRUB : sometimes Linux boots, sometimes it doesn't :\
[10:00] <wickedpuppy> sunshine82, the ./configure , make and make install .. all finished without error ?
[10:01] <Alberto> Can anyone help me please ?
[10:01] <sunshine82> wickedpuppy yea make install say flPhoto program in /usr/local/bin
[10:01] <mattfury> can someone help?
[10:01] <wickedpuppy> sunshine82, can you type flpho and press tab ?
[10:01] <sunshine82> wickedpuppy Installing flPhoto manpages in /usr/local/man
[10:01] <mattfury> my ati drivers.
[10:01] <Alberto> Here is my menulist : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4393
[10:02] <mattfury> i installed the flavio drivers and i am getting "no screens"
[10:02] <sunshine82> wickedpuppy when i press tab a / went next to it
[10:02] <wickedpuppy> sunshine82, ok ... go to usr/local/bin and search for flphoto program name
[10:02] <blank> i guess im gonna have to reinstall, cause it's gonna uninstall the kernel
[10:03] <intelikey> wickedpuppy why not just start typing flp  and hit the tab key ?
[10:03] <wickedpuppy> intelikey, look above thats my suggestion
[10:03] <intelikey> oh
[10:03] <intelikey> so it is  :)
[10:04] <wickedpuppy> :P
[10:04] <gilbert_> how to join ubuntu channel
[10:04] <wickedpuppy> nah... two brains are better than one
[10:04] <wickedpuppy> gilbert_, eh ah ...
[10:05] <intelikey> gilbert_   /join #channelname
[10:05] <Alberto> Can you help me please ?
[10:05] <blank> how can I see if i have lando enabled
[10:05] <wickedpuppy> how did you get here gilbert_ ?
[10:05] <wickedpuppy> i am curious
[10:06] <gilbert_> hallo
[10:06] <gilbert_> people
[10:06] <intelikey> yeah welcome to #ubuntu gilbert_
[10:06] <gilbert_> zsmc usb driver for my pc cam  error like this /dev/video0
[10:07] <gilbert_> wer i can find a driver for that zsmc
[10:07] <gilbert_> i cant find it in google
[10:07] <gilbert_> i check dmesg
[10:07] <gilbert_> ok
[10:07] <gilbert_> video 0
[10:08] <gilbert_> i dont know
[10:08] <gilbert_> i used camorama
[10:09] <gilbert_> pc web cam driver problem?
[10:09] <wickedpuppy> !webcam
[10:09] <ubotu> webcam is, like, Support for webcams with messenger-like programs will be available in the next version of amsn (already in the CVS version) and with gaim-vv, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47841 and GQcam http://cse.unl.edu/~cluening/gqcam/
[10:09] <gilbert_> /dev/video0
[10:09] <wickedpuppy> hmms... doesn't help
[10:10] <gilbert_> not just like gaim
[10:10] <gilbert_> only what i nid
[10:11] <gilbert_> is how can i view my web cam
[10:11] <gilbert_> i used camorama
[10:12] <gilbert_> anybody can help about web cam driver
[10:12] <gilbert_> pc web cam
[10:12] <gilbert_> when i click my camorama error msg like this /dev/video0
[10:13] <gilbert_> cheers!!!! who can help me well
[10:15] <Alberto> Hey ! Can U help me on GRUB problem please ;)
[10:17] <gilbert_> hallo
[10:17] <gilbert_> help me pls.
[10:17] <gilbert_> pc camera driver
[10:17] <Raskall> Alberto: I'm sure someone can, but not if we have to guess what your problem is. :)
[10:17] <gilbert_> a4 tech
[10:18] <mattfury> http://channels.debian.net/paste/1085
[10:19] <Alberto> Raskall: yes
[10:20] <Raskall> Alberto: what error messages do you get when linux doesn't boot?
[10:20] <Alberto> Raskall : GRUB problem Linux boots or doesn't boot ...it depends of ... the wind maybe ;). Here is my menulist : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4393
[10:20] <RehanSAlvi> whats the easiest way to comment out a block of code in a php script?
[10:21] <Alberto> No error : "loading ..." appears on the screen ... and then nothing ...
[10:21] <mattfury> ## ##?
[10:21] <RehanSAlvi> mattfury: does /*  work ?
[10:22] <Raskall> Alberto: seems to me like you have a hardware problem of some kind. Doubt it's a grub problem
[10:22] <gilbert_> hallo
[10:22] <gilbert_> pc web cam
[10:22] <gilbert_> how can i used my web camera
[10:22] <gilbert_> i cant find a driver
[10:22] <gilbert_> i install comarama
[10:22] <Raskall> Alberto: try finding out if any hardware is connected or switched on when it doesn't boot and off when it does.
[10:23] <mattfury> im not sure.
[10:23] <gilbert_> i install camorama
[10:23] <mattfury> but in XF86-config comments are ##
[10:23] <mattfury> so o_0
[10:25] <gilbert_> help me
[10:25] <Alberto> Raskall: as I said, it s randomly ... because no hardware changed ...
[10:25] <frogzoo> what manages the VGA graphics while Ubuntu is booting? I get a split image, but don't know where to look to fix it
[10:26] <frogzoo> X, however, works fine
[10:27] <hit3k> frogzoo, what do you mean split?
[10:27] <Raskall> Alberto: still, my bet is hardware trouble. That can often give random problems. Seems like the kernel hangs sometimes when you boot and that smells like hw.
[10:27] <macintoshr> frogzoo, i've seen that
[10:27] <Alessio> ola
[10:27] <mattfury> noo! help me!! :D
[10:27] <mattfury> http://channels.debian.net/paste/1085
[10:27] <mattfury> "no screens found"
[10:28] <pvh> Is there a Beagle under Breezy page? I can't find anything on the forum/wiki/google that explains my problem with dbus-sharp.
[10:29] <gilbert_> pc web cam driver "a4tech" or zsmc
[10:30] <frogzoo> hit3k: the ubuntu graphic appears twice - at the top of the page, and at the bottom - same with text sometimes
[10:31] <gilbert_> hallo
[10:31] <gilbert_> people
[10:31] <gilbert_> hallo
[10:31] <gilbert_> pc web cam driver "a4tech" or zsmc
[10:31] <hit3k> frogzoo, I havnt seen that
[10:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gilbert_ about repeat
[10:32] <rixth> Hey guys. I'm using Gaim 2.0. To play sounds, I need to specify a command. What do I put in the box?
[10:34] <Alessio> i'm an ubuntu member and i have signed CoC, who should i contact for @ubuntu.com?
[10:34] <frogzoo> maybe someone could tell me where /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png
[10:34] <frogzoo>  gets loaded? that would be a start
[10:34] <nalioth> Alessio: as soon as you are approved by mako, it is automajic
[10:36] <Alessio> automatic?
[10:37] <nalioth> Alessio: as soon as mako does his thing, it will be automatic
[10:37] <gilbert_> aaahhhhhhhhhhhh
[10:37] <gilbert_> ambot
[10:37] <gilbert_> ambot
[10:39] <LathropWells> It is really quiet....
[10:39] <gilbert_> pc web cam driver "a4tech" or zsmc
[10:41] <frogzoo> bah, I do so hate having to find . -exec grep blah blah   sigh...
[10:41] <ian> Anybody using a Hauppauge WinTV card with breezy?
[10:43] <mattfury> whats a good text-based text editor?
[10:43] <frogzoo> vim
[10:43] <mattfury> that comes with knoppix?
[10:43] <mattfury> no i hate vim.
[10:43] <frogzoo> vim
[10:43] <nalioth> mattfury: nano
[10:43] <mattfury> doesnt come with knoppix :(
[10:43] <nalioth> mattfury: pico
[10:43] <morzel> so vi
[10:44] <frogzoo> mattfury: vim is a good text based editor & supported everywhere - learn to use it
[10:44] <macintoshr> emacs
[10:44] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[10:44] <macintoshr> emacs !
[10:44] <mattfury> i dont like it, vim sucks to me.
[10:44] <HrdwrBoB> pico is...painful
[10:44] <HrdwrBoB> if you don't like vim
[10:44] <morzel> so use kate :D
[10:44] <HrdwrBoB> you'll HATE emacs
[10:44] <frogzoo> emacs on knoppix? I wasn't aware emacs could fit in only 600mb :p
[10:44] <macintoshr> rofl
[10:44] <macintoshr> actually, i was putting together packages on my livecd
[10:45] <ian> how can I tell if Breezy has recognised my TV tuner card?
[10:45] <morzel> or openoffice writer
[10:45] <nalioth> editor wars in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:45] <morzel> :))))
[10:45] <macintoshr> and vim is just as big as emacs
[10:45] <macintoshr> and we're not in the 80s, we can afford about 15mb
[10:47] <Hobbsee> !start an editor war
[10:47] <ubotu> vim is better than emacs
[10:47] <morzel> simple vi is the best
[10:47] <mattfury> ok
[10:47] <mattfury> whats "Run as" x-user?
[10:48] <sunshine82> im tryin to set up my webcam ive cd nw802-2.4-0.0.99 and did make but im gettin an error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4395 so when i try and do the next step  insmod usbvideo.o it givin me this error insmod: can't read 'usbvideo.o': No such file or directory
[10:48] <macintoshr> emacs forever
[10:48] <holycow> yes emacs ... but does it run linux?
[10:48] <holycow> -_-
[10:48] <holycow> *cough*
[10:48] <holycow> :)
[10:49] <macintoshr> actually, i do use both vim and emacs at the same time and don't exactly prefer one over the other
[10:49] <holycow> i'm not a programmer so i've not used anything but nano
[10:49] <holycow> i never needed anything more than open/edit/close
[10:49] <macintoshr> holycow, http://kernelthread.com/mac/vpc/images/emacsos.gif
[10:49] <macintoshr> yes it does
[10:50] <holycow> ROFL!
[10:50] <holycow> haha  :)
[10:50] <macintoshr> now do THAT with vi!
[10:50] <macintoshr> :P
[10:53] <sunshine82> it say in the read this file that if it not compil to check if im usin the cvs version how do i check this
[10:53] <pmjdebruijn> lo all
[10:54] <ian> Anybody using a Hauppauge WinTV card with breezy?
[10:54] <ian> !mythtv
[10:54] <ubotu> ian: No idea
[10:56] <ookami> anyone know of a good minimal linux distrib that would be suitable for a notebook running 128mb ram and 650mhz celeron?
[10:56] <Phlip> grr stupid piece of crap synaptic... trying to upgrade from hoary to breezy, it tells me I need to update some 1200 packages, fine. go. do it. it sits there for an hour downloading 700-odd megs of data and then tells me it can't actually do anything because maybe a dozen of the packages failed to download.
[10:56] <HrdwrBoB> ookami: I would get more ram for it and run ubuntu
[10:56] <Phlip> the error simply being "connection reset by peer"
[10:56] <HrdwrBoB> I have a celeron 700 I do that with
[10:56] <ookami> ram is maxed out on the machine. so upgrading it is not an option unfortunatly.
[10:56] <Phlip> why couldn't it just try again with that file?
[10:57] <Phlip> and why didn't it stop downloading all the other packages after one of the failed, and it knew full well it wouldn't be able to do jack afterwoulds?
[10:57] <Phlip> now I've got to do it all over again, and it'll probably fail again anyway
[10:58] <robotgeek> Phlip: you don't need to do it all over again
[10:58] <frogzoo> Phlip: if a pkg dl fails, the stuff correctly dld will be cached - just try again
[10:58] <Phlip> robotgeek: in my experience, yes I do... it re-downloaded everything every time for me in the past
[10:58] <Phlip> regardless of the cache settings
[10:59] <robotgeek> Phlip: weird, i *never* had to re-download
[10:59] <Phlip> I know from when I was messing with totem - every time I switched between totem-xine and totem-gstreamer it would re-download it
[10:59] <sunshine82> im tryin to set up my webcam ive cd nw802-2.4-0.0.99 and did make but im gettin an error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4395 so when i try and do the next step  insmod usbvideo.o it givin me this error insmod: can't read 'usbvideo.o': No such file or directory
[10:59] <Phlip> yep, I just clicked Apply again... >>715MB will have to be downloaded<<
[11:00] <robotgeek> Phlip: use the command line, that way you see what it it doing in detail
[11:00] <_basic> what are the default groups for the user account in ubuntu
[11:01] <_basic> i accidentally deleted myself from them
[11:01] <ookami> any idea why when playing a dvd, sometimes it says audio device in use?
[11:01] <ookami> and stop?
[11:01] <_basic> ookami: no hardware mixer?
[11:01] <ookami> _basic, what do you mean by hardware mixer?
[11:01] <_basic> for your soundcard
[11:02] <_basic> maybe it is using dmix or something
[11:02] <Phlip> _basic:
[11:02] <Phlip> phlip@boris:~$ groups phlip
[11:02] <Phlip> phlip : phlip adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[11:02] <_basic> thx
[11:02] <ookami> _basic, probably. i have not changed anything other than add w32codecs and the package for allowing dvd playback
[11:02] <sunshine82> it say in the read this file that if it not compil to check if im usin the cvs version how do i check this
[11:03] <Tomcat_> !tell gflash about java
[11:03] <Tomcat_> !tell gflash about javadebs
[11:04] <murray> hello. new convert here, congrats to ubunu : very impressive install
[11:04] <pawan> hello
[11:04] <robotgeek> sunshine82: what are you trying to compile?
[11:05] <murray> is this an appropriate place to ask a couple of (ubuntu) nubie q's?  I'm pretty familiar with debian, aptitude, have compiled a kernel a couple of times (gingerly)
[11:05] <Hobbsee> murray: yes
[11:06] <DjDarkman> hy can someone telll me how to set the default soundcard in alsa if i have 2?/
[11:06] <robotgeek> murray: essentially the same. with a few differences
[11:06] <robotgeek> !tell murray about sudo
[11:06] <Phlip> hmm... never mind for my rant - it seems that even though it says it's going to download 715MB it actually means it'll load it from the cache...
[11:06] <murray> k. running kubuntu. apt-got firefox : how'd I get it's icon into the K menu / taskbar?  Can't find KDE's menu editor ...
[11:06] <murray> murray knows about sudo thanks robot :)
[11:06] <Phlip> misleading labels, but much less drastic than redownloading everything...
[11:07] <robotgeek> murray: sorry, got a little overenthusiatic
[11:07] <robotgeek> Phlip: :)
[11:07] <bungle> yay sexy robotgeek
[11:08] <Phlip> the problem is it still goes through the motions of downloading the file even if it's in the cache
[11:08] <murray> robotgeek: enthusiastic good :)
[11:08] <Phlip> which is what made me believe my cache was broken and it was downloading it again...
[11:08] <jessicaNZ> I'm installing ubuntu and have to choose a kernel.  What's the difference between linux-386 linux-image-386 and linux-image-2.6.12-9-386?  Which is the mose stable?
[11:08] <robotgeek> bungle: hey! howdy. /join #ubuntu-offtopic too :)
[11:08] <LathropWells> alsa configwhat is the trick to configuring a second sound card? - is there a nice tool or do you edit a conf file? - where is the conf file?
[11:08] <sunshine82> robotgeek my webcam
[11:09] <DjDarkman> that`s what i wanna know...
[11:09] <robotgeek> sunshine82: you probably need to 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[11:10] <DjDarkman> how can i configure my secont sound card for alsa\
[11:10] <DjDarkman> ?
[11:10] <PatrikJohansson> hey, does anyone know any good cad-program like AutoCad fo linux??
[11:10] <robotgeek> sunshine82: plus, you'll need the kernel-headers too, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:10] <twilight> DjDarkman, try this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27186
[11:11] <sunshine82> robotgeek it say build essential is already the newest
[11:11] <LathropWells> DjDarkman a quick google shows "alsaconfig" is a tool but it isn't installed it seems nor do i know if it will work in ubuntu.
[11:11] <murray> tries again ... where's the equiv of kde's menu editor in kubuntu (or do I need to hope over to #kubunut?)
[11:11] <sunshine82> robotgeek i dont understand the end of your lastmessage
[11:12] <ookami> so, has anyone been able to set up ubuntu using wep encryption or WPA ?
[11:12] <jessicaNZ> murry: I thing smeg can edit the k menu
[11:12] <robotgeek> sunshine82: you need to install the kernel headers package also (most probably), sudo apt-get install  linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:12] <jessicaNZ> murray: I thing smeg can edit the k menu
[11:12] <murray> jessicaNZ: ta ... offs to google smeg
[11:13] <jessicaNZ> I'm installing ubuntu and have to choose a kernel.  What's the difference between linux-386 linux-image-386 and linux-image-2.6.12-9-386?  Which is the most stable?
[11:13] <sunshine82> robotgeek im gettin this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4397
[11:13] <Haffe> Hi, I noticed dapper is up at cdimage.ubuntu.com Do I dare to install it?
[11:14] <DJHasis> Can anyone help me to get my X to work cause it says Module load failure ?
[11:14] <CountDown> Hi.  I have a very picky (and minor) usability issue with one of Ubuntu's packages that is very easy to fix, but I don't know where to report it.
[11:14] <Haffe> CountDown, Bugzilla.ubuntu.com should be what you are looking for.
[11:14] <nadjyla1> CountDown, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[11:15] <robotgeek> sunshine82: type the complete one, 'linux-headers-$(uname -r)' it will install the correct one
[11:15] <pawan> hi is this the proper place to ask about documentation and translation
[11:16] <CountDown> Haffe, nadjyla1: I tried there, but the package is in universe and bugzilla directs me to launchpad, which appears to be broken.
[11:16] <robotgeek> pawan: try #ubuntu-doc
[11:16] <nadjyla1> dont know for universe, sorry
[11:16] <ookami> Anyone here using wep encryption or WPA ?
[11:16] <sunshine82> robotgeek i did that it givin me this error Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386
[11:17] <robotgeek> sunshine82: aghh,,one sec
[11:17] <sunshine82> robotgeek but it though i was on 2.6.12.9
[11:17] <suivethefirst> ookami, WPA
[11:17] <sunshine82> robotgeek my computer was hoary before
[11:17] <robotgeek> sunshine82: it seems to be correct, so i am not sure what's happening here
[11:18] <sunshine82> robotgeek i upgrade to breezy
[11:18] <DjDarkman> 10x LathropWells i hope this will work
[11:18] <robotgeek> sunshine82: did you reboot after the upgrade?
[11:18] <DJHasis> What module can make problems when startin X so that it will say module load failure on a amd64 ati pc
[11:18] <sunshine82> robotgeek yea i upgrade ages ago
[11:18] <LathropWells> (crosses fingers)
[11:18] <robotgeek> sunshine82: what's the output of uname -a
[11:19] <sunshine82> robotgeek Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-8-386 #1 Thu Sep 15 21:14:32 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:20] <robotgeek> sunshine82: then you are on breezy, hmm
[11:20] <ookami> suivethefirst, could you explain briifly how you got it working?
[11:20] <sunshine82> robotgeek yea
[11:20] <suivethefirst> what wireless card are you using?
[11:21] <robotgeek> sunshine82: it's weird that it says package not found.
[11:21] <ookami> its a dwl-520+ i believe.
[11:21] <robotgeek> ookami: what does the wiki say?
[11:22] <sunshine82> robotgeek it is sayin there is linux header 2.6.12.9 on the competer cant we put that on the computer
[11:23] <sunshine82> robotgeek install that one i mean
[11:23] <ookami> wiki? you mean:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto ?
[11:24] <hussam> I need to ask a couple of security questions.
[11:24] <robotgeek> !tell ookami about wireless
[11:24] <suivethefirst> if you follow the wiki it should get you setup for wpa ok, the question is does your card work at all - can you connect to an unsecured wap?
[11:25] <hussam> I have xp on hda1, linux swap on hdb1 and ext3 kubuntu on hdb2
[11:25] <frogzoo> hussam: don't ask to ask - just ask - leap in
[11:25] <odat> anyone know of a good dvd copy program for ubuntu?
[11:25] <hussam> I found a driver that would let xp mount ext3 partittion on drive l:\
[11:26] <ookami> thanks! that link is helpful!
[11:26] <sunshine82> robotgeek are u stump
[11:26] <nadjyla> odat: acidrip
[11:26] <robotgeek> sunshine82: on it
[11:26] <hussam> would this make the xp users able to read my Linux user passwords?
[11:26] <hussam> I don't really know how Linux stores passwords
[11:27] <nalioth> hussam: they will not be able to read your passwords
[11:27] <robotgeek> sunshine82: try sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[11:27] <nalioth> hussam: you'll be lucky if XP doesnt do bad things to your ext3
[11:27] <frogzoo> hussam: the /etc/shadow file is readable only by root (under linux) - if the ntfs drivers let users read this file, then yes, otherwise no - you'll need to configure the driver permission mapping properly to keep out non-admin users
[11:28] <hussam> nalioth: it's mounted as read-only
[11:28] <CountDown> hussam: I think shadow passwords are used.
[11:28] <odat> nadjyla, dvdrip or k9 aren't any good?
[11:28] <frogzoo> hussam: sry, I meant the xp ext3 drivers
[11:28] <nalioth>  /mode #ubuntu -r
[11:28] <sunshine82> robotgeek it say linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 2.6.12-9.23
[11:28] <sunshine82>  is already the newest
[11:28] <nalioth> big fingers suck
[11:28] <spektr> hussam: they will be able to read the *encrypted* passwords.
[11:28] <robotgeek> sunshine82: cool, then it's installed. cool
[11:29] <sunshine82> robotgeek i think i havemore than one linux header on my computer i think we might need to delete some of them
[11:29] <frogzoo> nalioth - I always thought it was the other way - bizarre
[11:29] <Haffe> Hmm, they say that linux lack driver support. I have no problem using my canon s630 under linux, but under Windows XP 64 bit it's a no-go.
[11:29] <robotgeek> sunshine82: no need
[11:29] <Haffe> Strange isn't it?
[11:29] <sunshine82> robotgeek what do u think
[11:29] <robotgeek> sunshine82: now, what exaclty does the README file say?
[11:29] <hussam> spektr: are they encrypted in /etc/shadow ?
[11:30] <spektr> hussam: yes
[11:30] <frogzoo> hussam: yes, but the hash is easily breakable
[11:30] <hussam> spektr: but they can open /etc/shadow
[11:30] <spektr> hussam: there are no clear text passwords. but i think the encrytion can be broken rather easily
[11:31] <hussam> spektr: can I make it harder to break?
[11:31] <sunshine82> robotgeek are u talkin about the webcam or the linux header cuz i cant find a read me file for the linux file
[11:32] <spektr> hussam: it's hard to hide anything from a user who has physical access to your machine
[11:32] <robotgeek> sunshine82: i'm talking about the webcam
[11:32] <hussam> spektr: so it users a low level encryption?
[11:32] <ubuntu> como usa isso?
[11:32] <ubuntu> sera q alguem pode me ajudar?
[11:33] <robotgeek> !es
[11:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:33] <ubuntu> #mp3
[11:33] <hussam> spektr: the encryption show be better
[11:34] <sunshine82> robotgeek oh here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4398
[11:34] <ubuntu> help
[11:34] <tenzin> hi all
[11:34] <ubuntu> ?
[11:34] <hussam> spektr: what if somebody uses a live-cd to access a machines's passwords
[11:34] <hussam> spektr: I thought Linux was much more secure
[11:35] <ookami> my notebook has only 128mb ram, buntu says it needs 128 ram to work (live cd) ... but my vid display uses 2mb of the 128.... could that cause problems?
[11:35] <nadjyla> ookami, it s too short 128 for livecd
[11:36] <Azertyuuu> hey all, i want to run a Pascal program, but it disappears in a wink of an eye
[11:36] <hussam> Azertyuuu: run it in terminal
[11:36] <spektr> hussam: i'm not sure what encryption is used. maybe i'm wrong and this isn't true anymore. the classic encryption method used for /etc/passwd was weak
[11:36] <nadjyla> ookami, 128 with livecd, too slow ,problem to boot,etc....
[11:37] <frogzoo> hussam: if someone has physical access - the OS won't help you
[11:37] <robotgeek> sunshine82: you having issues with the cvs? there should be documentation on their website on how to get the cvs version
[11:37] <Jejjo> hallo everyone! i have  a litte problem witn samba! can i post my testparm results somewhere?
[11:37] <frogzoo> !pastebin
[11:37] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:37] <PatrikJohansson> Does someone know a program like AutoCAD for linux?
[11:37] <sunshine82> robotgeek this is the info i found on the webcam http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=598
[11:38] <sunshine82> robotgeek but how do i check if i have the cvs version
[11:38] <robotgeek> sunshine82: how did you download the sources?
[11:39] <sunshine82> robotgeek this is where i download it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/nw802
[11:39] <bimberi> PatrikJohansson: qcad might be worth a look
[11:39] <fort> hi ive just installed ubuntu and im wondering if i can access my other harddrive that was formatted for windows in NTFS
[11:39] <fort> how would i do that
[11:40] <Jejjo> okeydokey i've posted my testparm resoults
[11:40] <frogzoo> fort: you can mount ntfs, but read only
[11:40] <bimberi> !windowsdrives
[11:40] <ubotu> [windowsdrives]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:40] <frogzoo> !ntfs
[11:40] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:40] <fort> thanks
[11:40] <robotgeek> sunshine82: you don't have cvs version
[11:40] <StevenK> PatrikJohansson: I would suggest you read http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/CADlinks.html, and have a look at what works for you.
[11:40] <fort> also
[11:40] <robotgeek> sunshine82: http://sourceforge.net/projects/nw802
[11:41] <fort> how can i get mp3 playback
[11:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fort about mp3
[11:41] <frogzoo> fort: you might be better to reformat the drive as fat32 depending
[11:42] <StevenK> Drat, I was half-way through typing "Hang on, I saw the mp3 page on the wiki this morning".
[11:42] <Jejjo> testparm  resoultrs posted in pastebin. how can i track that error?
[11:42] <frogzoo> Jejjo: we need the complete URL
[11:43] <Jejjo> frogzoo http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4399
[11:43] <bimberi> StevenK: a frequent occurrence with nalioth around - he's fast :)
[11:43] <sunshine82> robotgeek yea
[11:43] <fort> hmm nalioth i ran that script for the mounting hte other hard drive
[11:43] <fort> but it didnt come up with anything
[11:44] <frogzoo> Jejjo: someone will need your smb.conf to debug this - but I have to split
[11:44] <spektr> hussam: someone who has physical access to your machine can alter the passwords on your machine. you can't avoid that. it's pretty easy to reset all passwords and reboot...
[11:44] <nalioth> fort: welcome to the cold hard school house
[11:44] <Jejjo> frogzoo, ok i'll post my smb.conf
[11:45] <hussam> spektr: I see
[11:45] <fort> what does that mean :<
[11:45] <spektr> hussam: the only solution i see is to encrypt the whole partition
[11:45] <sunshine82> robotgeek wuz up
[11:46] <StevenK> bimberi: :-)
[11:46] <nalioth> fort: means it's time to learn all about the fstab
[11:46] <robotgeek> sunshine82: what? just follow the instructions from the link i gave you, and follow the instructions to download the cvs version
[11:47] <almost-ctr> Good morning, how do I change the keymap in X on breezy to be the one of my ibook, anyone know ?
[11:47] <Jejjo> ok i've posted testparm results and smb.conf in pastebin http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4400
[11:47] <sunshine82> robotgeek i just press download and went that way where is the cvs version on that website
[11:47] <Jejjo> anyone can understand problem?
[11:48] <nalioth> almost-ctr: use System > prefs > keyboard > layouts > macintosh
[11:48] <robotgeek> almost-ctr: what exactly is that you want to do. quick look at System -> Prefs -> Keyboard -> Layout tab
[11:48] <blondie> Jejjo: workgroup is blank
[11:48] <almost-ctr> Thank you sirs!
[11:49] <fort> what do ihave to do nalioth
[11:49] <almost-ctr> bloody superb
[11:49] <Haffe> Is there a package list for Dapper Drake?
[11:49] <almost-ctr> thank you :)
[11:49] <robotgeek> sunshine82: sorry, my bad http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=52391
[11:49] <Jejjo> blondie workgroup? what is that?
[11:49] <almost-ctr> will that save across logins ?
[11:49] <robotgeek> almost-ctr: yup
[11:49] <ookami> i tried uninstalling totem player, but it said one of the dependancies was Ubuntu Desktop. Im puzzled. does that mean by removing totem player, i also remove my desktop ?
[11:50] <almost-ctr> robotgeek: excellent :)
[11:50] <bimberi> Jejjo: i don't know smb.conf very well but the line with just []  looks suspicious to me
[11:50] <robotgeek> ookami: no
[11:50] <nalioth> fort: open a terminal and type "man fstab"
[11:50] <blondie> Jejjo: the workgroup/domain you want to use
[11:50] <blondie> the default being mshome or workgroup
[11:50] <blondie> Jejjo: also the line [] 
[11:50] <ookami> ok
[11:51] <sunshine82> robotgeek explain this website to me i dont understand it where is the download
[11:51] <blondie> Jejjo: that needs a name in the [] 
[11:51] <robotgeek> sunshine82: the part where it says 'Anonymous CVS Access' run that in a terminal
[11:52] <Jejjo> blondie ok that was the problem
[11:52] <ookami> is there a document which explains how to install Mplayer ?
[11:52] <wickedpuppy> !mplayer
[11:52] <ubotu> mplayer is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:53] <enodev> hi all! does anyone know how to setup a com port mouse?
[11:53] <enodev> what to enter in xorg.conf?
[11:53] <jessicaNZ> qwert
[11:54] <Jejjo> blondie because i use smb4k and when i clik on condivision i get this error now : smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) smbmnt failed:1 any clue?
[11:54] <sunshine82> robotgeek hold on ive just checked sypatic manager and cvs was not installled im installin it now
[11:54] <ian> can someone help me out with the installation of ivtv?
[11:54] <jessicaNZ> sorry I typed that into the wrong keyboard
[11:54] <robotgeek> sunshine82: hmm, kk
[11:54] <blondie> are you mounting as a user?
[11:55] <Jejjo> yes
[11:55] <blondie> well
[11:55] <sunshine82> robotgeek well ive installed cvs and it asked me for a password i put my user password and it say cvs login: authorization failed: server cvs.sourceforge.net rejected access to /cvsroot/nw802 for user anonymous
[11:55] <blondie> I guess smbmnt needs setuid = root
[11:55] <rixth> What packages do I need to be able to fonts in flash animations?
[11:56] <elle> huhu
[11:56] <bimberi> enodev: try /dev/ttyS0 as the device (for COM1, ttyS1 if its COM2 ...)
[11:56] <elle> ich wollte hier berhaupt nicht hin
[11:56] <elle> wo bin ich?
[11:56] <robotgeek> sunshine82: blank password did not work?
[11:56] <enodev> bimberi: thank you
[11:56] <robotgeek> !de
[11:56] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[11:56] <elle> aha
[11:56] <Jejjo> blondie how do i config that?
[11:56] <bimberi> enodev: not yet, see if it works first :)
[11:57] <sunshine82> robotgeek nah that did nt work either cvs login: warning: failed to open /home/sunshine/.cvspass for reading: No such file or directory
[11:57] <sunshine82>  i dont understand
[11:57] <robotgeek> sunshine82: just run the first command again. then retry
[11:57] <blondie> Jejjo: umm, I'd suggest you mount things as root
[11:57] <sunshine82> robotgeek im readin cvs doc
[11:58] <sunshine82> robotgeek it say i need a cvs password
[11:58] <Jejjo> actually i use gnome and smb4k needs kde installed to gain access trough shell as root
[11:58] <robotgeek> sunshine82: cvs password is blank, just hit enter
[11:59] <Jejjo> blondie i'll try installing kde first
[11:59] <Jejjo> blondie tnks
[12:00] <blondie> erm ok
[12:00] <robotgeek> sunshine82: read this http://nw802.sourceforge.net/news.html
[12:00] <sunshine82> robotgeek ok the first line worked
[12:00] <sunshine82> robotgeek now the secound what is the module name
[12:01] <robotgeek> sunshine82: nw802-2.4
[12:02] <Jejjo> wow! kde is 400 mb download... maybe i look for easyer option
[12:02] <jenda> KDE's a hog
[12:02] <jenda> Even worse than gnome
[12:02] <sunshine82> robotgeek it made the folder
[12:03] <robotgeek> sunshine82: from there on, you are on your own :(
[12:05] <sunshine82> robotgeek sorry it didnt work same error as before
[12:06] <robotgeek> sunshine82: what error. the cvs login stuff?
[12:07] <_native_> anyone up?
[12:07] <sunshine82> robotgeek nah when i go /nw802-2.4$ make
[12:07] <robotgeek> sunshine82: http://nw802.sourceforge.net/news.html
[12:08] <sunshine82> robotgeek i get that error about usbvideo and when i try and insmod usbvideo it say no such file
[12:08] <robotgeek> sunshine82: i'm sorry, but what error is it?
[12:08] <robotgeek> sunshine82: just paste the whole output to pastebin
[12:09] <drasko> hi all. By box just wont boot. I get Grub 17 error! What's is this and how can I fix this. I am in Knoppix now.
[12:10] <nadjyla> on knoppix, error grub? :?/
[12:11] <nadjyla> drasko, with knoppix, run grub
[12:11] <nadjyla> you can reinstall it
[12:12] <drasko> nadjyla, and after that?
[12:12] <ookami> is there a way to resize the window of Mplayer and resize the video being displayed as well?
[12:13] <sunshine82> robotgeek http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4395
[12:14] <robotgeek> sunshine82: did you apply the patch? http://nw802.sourceforge.net/news.html
[12:15] <aRAchNiON> I need to unzip a .rar file
[12:15] <aRAchNiON> what tool or lib do I need?
[12:16] <bedi> sudo aptitude install unrar-nonfree
[12:16] <cusco> aRAchNiON: apt-get install unrar
[12:16] <cusco> oops I haven't seenbedi
[12:16] <bedi> np :)
[12:16] <sunshine82> robotgeek ive done that patch but we now have a new error :make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[12:17] <sunshine82> robotgeek i think we have to go back and deal with the linux heaader
[12:17] <bedi> i downloaded unrar and it not worked, but unrar-nonfree works fine for me =D
[12:17] <robotgeek> sunshine82: you will need sources, then i guess
[12:18] <sunshine82> robotgeek ive done that patch but we now have a new error :make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[12:18] <sunshine82> robotgeek what does this mean :make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[12:18] <robotgeek> sunshine82: one sec
[12:19] <robotgeek> sunshine82: your headers package did not install properly
[12:19] <_native_> what are you geeks doin? ;-] 
[12:20] <sunshine82> robotgeek that what i was thinkin but how do we fix it
[12:20] <d^-_-^b> wacking off
[12:20] <_native_> lol
[12:20] <d^-_-^b> _native_, and you?
[12:20] <_native_> same
[12:20] <d^-_-^b> great!
[12:20] <_native_> nice nick,  looks cool.
[12:20] <Linforcer> oh man... I work at this parcel snorting center here in Dordrecht the Netherlands... and I got this total grin on my face yesterday when I saw.....
[12:21] <bedi> haha
[12:21] <Linforcer> 20 containers full of ubuntu CDS
[12:21] <robotgeek> sunshine82: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:21] <_native_> oh man
[12:21] <_native_> i would have grabbed a few. ;-
[12:21] <robotgeek> Linforcer: snorting center? lol
[12:21] <Linforcer> heh
[12:21] <Linforcer> I have plenty
[12:22] <Linforcer> heh quick typing here
[12:22] <chyna> hi there
[12:22] <_native_> you know whats cool.... sftp!
[12:22] <chyna> im new to ubuntu, and im having problems with my sound, can someone please helpme
[12:23] <bimberi> !sound
[12:23] <ubotu> sound is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[12:23] <bimberi> chyna: try those links ^^^^
[12:23] <chyna> ok thankyou
[12:24] <bimberi> yw
[12:24] <_native_> and you know whats even cooler openbsd provides anon sftp access so you can grab updates/patches securely...
[12:24] <_native_> ;-] 
[12:24] <marlun> I don't think my soundcard is working with Ubuntu, I try to listen to a song and the player starts playing but theres no sound.. I I have a Audigy 2 card,
[12:25] <_native_> i love how ubotu talks with broken american teen lingo.. "is like" lol
[12:25] <sunshine82> robotgeek got this error E: Invalid operation linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386
[12:25] <Linforcer> 2.6.12
[12:25] <Linforcer> that is sooo last tueday
[12:26] <marlun> but in the Device Manager the Audigy 2 card seems to be identified, what could be wrong?
[12:26] <Linforcer> (more teen lingo)
[12:26] <robotgeek> sunshine82: are u sure u put in everything correctly?
[12:26] <bimberi> !sound
[12:26] <ubotu> I heard sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[12:26] <Bhaupen> i need some help....i installed bittorrent and i cant seem to get it to run........please help.......
[12:27] <bedi> btdownloadgui file.torrent
[12:27] <sunshine82> robotgeek i dont know anything about headers i
[12:27] <Cran1988> in which file must put real player?
[12:28] <jono> heya
[12:28] <jono> how do I disable the synaptics touchpad?
[12:28] <bedi> Bhaupen: try gnome-bittorrent :)
[12:28] <robotgeek> sunshine82: you have a typo. check what u typed in
[12:29] <sunshine82> robotgeek this is what i type sudo apt-get --reinstall linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:29] <robotgeek> sunshine82: apt-get install --reinstall
[12:30] <aRAchNiON> I tried apt-get install unrar
[12:30] <aRAchNiON> had to do apt-get install unrar-free
[12:30] <aRAchNiON> but it's still not working...
[12:30] <sunshine82> robotgeek i added install but got this error E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386
[12:30] <aRAchNiON> Archive type not supported
[12:30] <bedi> aRAchNiON: unrar -x arquive .rar ? (i thing)
[12:30] <Bhaupen> still cant get it to run......
[12:30] <evgen> qwerqwer
[12:30] <sunshine82> robotgeek this is what i type sudo apt-get install--reinstall linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:31] <aRAchNiON> bash: unrar: command not found
[12:31] <robotgeek> sunshine82: there's some problem, cause your version of the kernel is 2.6.12.8-386, & the one in the repo is 2-6.12.*9*
[12:31] <wickedpuppy> aRAchNiON, install it then
[12:31] <robotgeek> sunshine82: why don't you do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:32] <hamdan> hi
[12:32] <jono> argh!! how do I disable the tap to click on the synaptics touchpad? its driving me crazy!!
[12:32] <robotgeek> kemik: bonjour, but this an english only channel. You are welcome to stay though :)
[12:32] <bimberi> aRAchNiON: try "unrar-free"
[12:32] <aRAchNiON> nvm
[12:32] <robotgeek> !fr
[12:32] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[12:32] <evgen>   ?
[12:32] <aRAchNiON> that was it bimberi ;)
[12:32] <hamdan> how i can open terminal as super user ?
[12:33] <kemik> robotgeek:  that's very nice of you
[12:33] <sunshine82> robotgeek ive checked sypatic manger this is not on the computer linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386
[12:33] <bimberi> aRAchNiON: :)
[12:33] <bimberi> hamdan: sudo -i
[12:33] <hamdan> thanks
[12:33] <robotgeek> sunshine82: you need to upgrade your packages. do what i told you to do
[12:33] <sunshine82> robotgeek ive done that
[12:33] <cagdas> hi all
[12:34] <robotgeek> sunshine82: then, i a sorry...but i don't know what the issue is. maybe change your mirrors maybe
[12:35] <sunshine82> robotgeek linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 is on the computer how do i get it to recognized that one innsted of 12.8
[12:35] <sunshine82> does anyone know about linux headers
[12:35] <cagdas> How do we install source packages in Ubuntu?
[12:35] <cagdas> I cannot find source packages when I look with apt-cache
[12:36] <nalioth> sunshine82: install linux-kernel-headers
[12:36] <sunshine82> my computer has linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 but it only recognize 12.8
[12:36] <crimsun> sunshine82: what about them?
[12:36] <Bhaupen> how do i install new themes????
[12:36] <nalioth> cagdas: yes, that is a downfall, but there are source pkgs for each binary
[12:36] <robotgeek> sunshine82: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[12:36] <crimsun> sunshine82: "12.8"?
[12:36] <{{corona}}>  hi after my last reboot the boot sequence ends up in a file system check on root and asks for root password! now my sudo password does not work as root. and therefore the only other option is to press ctrl-d which reboots the system and the same thing happens again. earlier a ctrl-d would carry on and kubuntu would startup. can someone help?
[12:36] <robotgeek> sunshine82: please don't repeat yourself. asking once will get the job done
[12:37] <crimsun> cagdas: apt-cache showsrc foo
[12:37] <evgen> ,   ?
[12:37] <cagdas> hmmm
[12:37] <robotgeek> crimsun: the package in breezy repos is 12.9?
[12:37] <cagdas> that is funny then
[12:37] <sunshine82> nalioth that didnt do anything linux kernel header is already the newest
[12:37] <Chizn> how do i get to the colour depth settings?
[12:38] <crimsun> robotgeek: where the epoch is -9-? yes.
[12:38] <Chizn> cant find them anywaherre
[12:38] <crimsun> sunshine82: linux-kernel-headers != linux-headers
[12:38] <crimsun> sunshine82: linux-kernel-headers is used for glibc. linux-headers is used to compile external kernel modules.
[12:38] <aRAchNiON> right
[12:38] <aRAchNiON> the unrar-free fails
[12:39] <robotgeek> crimsun: his uname -r -> 12.8 ,
[12:39] <crimsun> unrar-nonfree in multiverse should handle most things, aRAchNiON.
[12:39] <sunshine82> robotgeek sorry i though u had given up that why i opened it to the form
[12:39] <sunshine82> robotgeek cool continue...
[12:39] <crimsun> robotgeek: what's the issue with 12.8, though?
[12:39] <{{corona}}> hello can someone help with a boot problem?
[12:40] <sunshine82> robotgeek it done the reconfigure
[12:40] <ian> !ivtv
[12:40] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, ian
[12:40] <robotgeek> crimsun: there are no linux-headers for the 12.8, i believe
[12:40] <Bhaupen> how would i go about installing a new theme????
[12:40] <crimsun> robotgeek: he shouldn't be worrying about that...
[12:40] <robotgeek> crimsun: linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386 , to be specific
[12:40] <crimsun> sunshine82: uname -r
[12:40] <ian> Can somebody please help me out with an ivtv installation?
[12:40] <ian> Im desperate
[12:41] <hamdan_> hi
[12:41] <evgen> huy!
[12:42] <sunshine82> robotgeek what do i do now please
[12:42] <hamdan_> if i open the terminal as root how i can go to desktop ??
[12:42] <sunshine82> crimsum 2.6.12-8-386
[12:42] <hamdan_> cd Desktop
[12:42] <robotgeek> crimsun:  Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-8-386 #1 Thu Sep 15 21:14:32 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:42] <aRAchNiON> crimsun, how do I add the multiverse repository?
[12:42] <aRAchNiON> it is a repo right?
[12:42] <robotgeek> sunshine82: crimsun is the boss :)
[12:42] <nalioth> aRAchNiON: in your sources.list, where it says 'universe' make it say 'universe multiverse'
[12:43] <hamdan_> if i open the terminal as root how i can go to desktop ??
[12:43] <robotgeek> hamdan_: /home/<user>/Desktop
[12:43] <drasko> I am trying to mount hda4 from knoppix, but it gives me error
[12:43] <aRAchNiON> where is sources.list nalioth ?
[12:44] <hamdan_> thanks
[12:44] <drasko> knoppix@ttyp0[knoppix] $ sudo mount -t ext3  /dev/hda4 /mnt/hda4
[12:44] <drasko> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda4,
[12:44] <drasko>        or too many mounted file systems
[12:44] <robotgeek> drasko: don't paste in here
[12:44] <robotgeek> aRAchNiON: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:44] <drasko> robotgeek, any ideas?
[12:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell aRAchNiON about repos
[12:44] <crimsun> robotgeek: he needs to install linux-386
[12:45] <crimsun> aRAchNiON: yes, it's a repo, and nalioth just had the bot send you instructions
[12:45] <frogzoo> drasko: off topic, but anyway, is your /etc partition mounted rw?
[12:45] <robotgeek> drasko: nope
[12:45] <Bhaupen> how would i go about installing a new theme that i downloaded????
[12:45] <sunshine82> robotgeek no no no please
[12:45] <drasko> my /etc partition?
[12:46] <robotgeek> crimsun: linux-386? what are those?
[12:46] <sunshine82> robotgeek it doesnt matter we so close
[12:46] <frogzoo> drasko: how else to write /etc/mtab when the fs mounts?
[12:46] <marlun> I can't seem to get the sound to work =(
[12:46] <robotgeek> sunshine82: sudo apt-get install linux-386
[12:46] <drasko> frogzoo, how to mount this partition?
[12:46] <jessicaNZ> can I choost partitioning options from a normal install or do I have to do an expert install? (breey)
[12:46] <frogzoo> marlun: dmesg |grep alsa ?what result?
[12:46] <crimsun> robotgeek: metapackage
[12:46] <jenda> jessicaNZ: normal
[12:46] <crimsun> marlun: what's the issue?
[12:46] <jenda> jessicaNZ: normal is good enough
[12:47] <robotgeek> crimsun: hmm, never heard of it before. i assumed things would be same as in the ppc world :)
[12:47] <marlun> frogzoo, nothing
[12:47] <frogzoo> drasko: your root partition is a CD - so it's read only - you'll need to mount using the no mtab option - see man mount
[12:47] <jessicaNZ> thanks jjenda :)
[12:47] <frogzoo> marlun: sudo ipkg-install alsa
[12:47] <jenda> jessicaNZ: np
[12:47] <ceywj> hi
[12:47] <marlun> crimsun, I've got a Audigy soundcard and it does not sem  work.
[12:47] <robotgeek> crimsun: so, this includes the linux headers too?
[12:47] <sunshine82> robotgeek it downloadin
[12:47] <jenda> jessicaNZ: Good luck with the installation (I just love new-installers)
[12:48] <robotgeek> crimsun: sorry, i read the desc. nm
[12:48] <crimsun> robotgeek: no, linux-headers-$(uname -r) is necessary -after- he reboots into the new -9- kernel
[12:48] <frogzoo> marlun correction: sudo ipkg-install alsa-base
[12:48] <chicken-man> How do I CHMOD a folder and all of it's contents ?
[12:48] <{{corona}}> i have a locked boot up sequence- can someone help
[12:48] <crimsun> marlun: cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:48] <frogzoo> chicken-man: chmod -r
[12:48] <robotgeek> crimsun: hmm, okay. ty
[12:48] <StevenK> chicken-man: chmod -R user:group directory
[12:48] <chicken-man> Thanks
[12:48] <marlun> frogzoo, sudo: ipkg-install: command not found
[12:48] <robotgeek> marlun: dpkg
[12:48] <robotgeek> frogzoo: ipkg?
[12:49] <marlun> crimsun, Audigy 2 [SB0240]  (rev.4, serial:0x10071102) at 0xa000, irq 21
[12:49] <sunshine82> robotgeek it downloaded
[12:49] <crimsun> marlun: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:49] <robotgeek> sunshine82: you will need to reboot, apparently
[12:49] <StevenK> ipkg actually does exist, it's used for on a handheld that I can't remember the name of.
[12:49] <jessicaNZ> jenda: it's a reinstall, last time I chose expert mode and it worked for a while but after a while everything started playing up
[12:49] <marlun> robotgeek, sudo: dpkg-install: command not found
[12:49] <StevenK> s/for //
[12:49] <marlun> crimsun, amixer?
[12:50] <sunshine82> robotgeek i that log off or shut down
[12:50] <crimsun> marlun: yes
[12:50] <robotgeek> marlun: i tht it was mostly apt-get install , just wait for frogzoo
[12:50] <jenda> jessicaNZ: what's everything? Shouldn't happen, not even with expert mode.
[12:50] <robotgeek> sunshine82: reboot, shutdown and restart
[12:50] <frogzoo> robotgeek/marlun - oops, slumming on openwrt, install alsa-base
[12:51] <marlun> robotgeek, what? =) (sorry)
[12:51] <drasko> frogzoo, I trying sudo mount -n -t ext3  /dev/hda4 /mnt/hda4
[12:51] <drasko> frogzoo, still no success
[12:51] <marlun> crimsun, how do I get output from amixer?
[12:51] <crimsun> marlun: open a terminal and type amixer
[12:51] <frogzoo> !tell drasko about pastebin
[12:51] <robotgeek> marlun: :/ sudo apt-get install alsa-base ?  i am not sure what frogzoo meant, i'm hoping he meant this!
[12:51] <frogzoo> robotgeek: ditto
[12:52] <jessicaNZ> jenda: well I think it has something to do with installing kde, I don't know exactly
[12:52] <crimsun> alsa-base is already installed as part of ubuntu-desktop
[12:52] <Tevage> greetings all
[12:52] <marlun> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4401
[12:52] <aRAchNiON> nalioth, the Multiverse repo is not in my list, even with show disabled on...
[12:53] <drasko> frogzoo, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4402
[12:53] <crimsun> marlun: are you using analog speakers (line-out)?
[12:53] <Mr_singha> can anyone please help me install a new theme???
[12:54] <_native_> yes
[12:54] <marlun> crimsun, ehmm..? (sorry), I've just put the speakers into the green slot in the back
[12:54] <crimsun> Mr_singha: System> Preferences> Theme
[12:54] <_native_> Mr_singha;
[12:54] <robotgeek> Mr_singha: then drag and drop
[12:55] <crimsun> marlun: so you're using line-out
[12:55] <crimsun> marlun: (not the digital-out or spdif connector)
[12:55] <marlun> crimsun, yeah
[12:56] <Mr_singha> did that it tells me file format is invalid
[12:56] <marlun> crimsun, the slot where you can put normal headphones for example.
[12:56] <bedi> Mr_singha: descompact the new theme to ~/.themes
[12:56] <crimsun> marlun: does muting 'External Amplifier' change anything?
[12:57] <foxiness> 87% of my memory used ! "this with out firefox" , and if i do restart my it used from start 50% [i have 512 MB] 
[12:57] <patrick_> hi
[12:57] <frogzoo> drasko: sudo fsck.ext3 -n /dev/hda4
[12:57] <pypcjs> hi
[12:57] <pypcjs> hi,very body
[12:57] <marlun> crimsun, checking the checkbox inside the switches tab?
[12:57] <bedi> or use gnome-theme-manager and just move the theme.*(not descompacted) over it =D
[12:58] <bedi> hehe
[12:58] <marlun> crimsun, unchecking i mean
[12:58] <robotgeek> foxiness: that's not necessarily a bad thing
[12:58] <crimsun> marlun: yes
[12:58] <crimsun> marlun: or using alsamixer
[12:58] <bla|patrick> fresh install of breezy and weired problems from scratch
[12:58] <bla|patrick> i have a widescreen display but ubuntu stretches the image by default
[12:58] <bla|patrick> its hard to read anything
[12:59] <foxiness> robotgeek, my sys goes slow [it look like it need swap]  and not response
[12:59] <marlun> crabstic, but i am using alsamixer I think? I'm double cliking the volume nob.
[12:59] <bla|patrick> could someone guide me to fix this and activate higher resolutions
[12:59] <marlun> crimsun,  but i am using alsamixer I think? I'm double cliking the volume nob.
[12:59] <marlun> crimsun, and it did not help =/
[01:00] <nalioth> bla|patrick: open a terminal, and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:00] <foxiness> robotgeek, i'm closed the firefox because the sys goes very slow after i cloesd the firefox it get normal again
[01:00] <robotgeek> foxiness: hmm, try using something else
[01:00] <nalioth> bla|patrick: choose the res you want and then end the wizard.
[01:00] <bla|patrick> nalioth, already tried
[01:00] <jenda> jessicaNZ: hmm... I don't know much about KDE... except the fact that it needs a better computer than mine is (to run smooth and have some resources left)...
[01:00] <_native_> later guys, its bed time.
[01:00] <crimsun> marlun: make sure your surround/center/lfe settings are unmuted and up
[01:00] <bla|patrick> nalioth, i'd like to see this stretching by defauld disabled
[01:00] <foxiness> _native_, haha
[01:01] <bla|patrick> coze i'd like to play ET in 4:3 without stretching
[01:01] <nalioth> bla|patrick: choose your res
[01:01] <marlun> crimsun,  PCM surround or just surround?
[01:01] <bla|patrick> nalioth: 1st dpgk doesnt sotre the res i selected there
[01:01] <bla|patrick> 2nd the stretching comes from linux
[01:01] <bedi> bla|patrick: you must fix the correct vert/horiz sync, a look on the monitor manual will help :)
[01:01] <pypcjs> how can I install the *.deb package.
[01:02] <bla|patrick> its a tft = 60Hz
[01:02] <hamdan_> why do the terminal dont understand the term " make "
[01:02] <bedi> dpkg -i pypcjs
[01:02] <marlun> crimsun, they were unmuted but not up, however setting them up didn't help.
[01:02] <bla|patrick> bedi, its a tft
[01:02] <bla|patrick> and in windows the image is streched by the display
[01:02] <marlun> crimsun, I'm playing music while doing this so I hope I don't have to do anything for the changes to take place?
[01:02] <bla|patrick> in the fresh breezy linux does this part
[01:02] <bla|patrick> thats a nuisance :(
[01:02] <crimsun> marlun: no.
[01:03] <hamdan_>  why do the terminal dont understand the term " make "
[01:03] <crimsun> marlun: there's a speaker-test utility. Try using that.
[01:03] <bedi> hamdan_: hummm, intall make =P
[01:03] <frogzoo> hamdan_ you need to install the make package
[01:03] <bedi> install*
[01:03] <hamdan_> how ?
[01:03] <marlun> crimsun, when I did that command which showed I had Audigy 2 it also showed some Intel thing, it can't be that the software tries to use that instead of Audigy 2?
[01:03] <frogzoo> hamdan_ open synaptic - search for make - install
[01:03] <sunshine82> robotgeek im back
[01:03] <crimsun> marlun: sorry, I'm exhausted and need to go to bed. Please read the man page for speaker-test if you're not clear.
[01:04] <crimsun> marlun: err... you have two recognized sound cards?
[01:04] <foxiness> i need program to help me on style [css and color]  ? and anvialbe on ubuntu [gnome] 
[01:04] <nalioth> hamdan_: install "build-essential", it'll put make and all other things needed to compile software on your box
[01:04] <thoreauputic> hamdan: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:04] <marlun> crimsun, what was the command again?
[01:04] <robotgeek> sunshine82: what does uname -r show now?
[01:04] <hamdan_> from where ?
[01:04] <crimsun> marlun: /join #flood, and paste me the exact output from ''cat /proc/asound/cards''
[01:05] <pypcjs> I hvae some rpm packages, I want to install the ubuntu system.How I do.
[01:05] <thoreauputic> hamdan: erm - either type that command or search for "build-essential" in the package manager
[01:05] <bedi> hamdan_: sudo aptitude install build-essencial
[01:05] <bla|patrick> nalioth, i tried again...
[01:05] <ctc> hello
[01:05] <bla|patrick> changes dont apply to the menu-panel
[01:05] <thoreauputic> bedi:  s/essecial/essential
[01:05] <bla|patrick> neither the stretching is fixed nor higher resolutions
[01:05] <bla|patrick> max is 1280x1024
[01:06] <sunshine82> robotgeek 2.6.12-9-386
[01:06] <bla|patrick> i need 1680x1050
[01:06] <bedi> thoreauputic: tkz :)
[01:06] <ctc_> :)
[01:06] <nalioth> bla|patrick: did you kill your xserver after you did the reconfigure?
[01:07] <robotgeek> sunshine82: cool, now try your make
[01:07] <joakim> how do i increase the resolution on Linux
[01:07] <ctc_> exit
[01:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell joakim about fixres
[01:07] <Fred|Fr3d> hey, is there a GUI program that can monitor CPU temperatures in hoary? i tried ksensors but it doesn't have temperature...
[01:07] <bla|patrick> nalioth, yes
[01:07] <sunshine82> robotgeek just try it got two error i might need to patch it again i dont know
[01:07] <El_Che> !fixres
[01:07] <ubotu> methinks fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:07] <thoreauputic> !tell joakim about fixres
[01:07] <joakim> ok
[01:07] <frogzoo> system -> preferences -> screen resolution ???
[01:08] <marlun> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4403
[01:08] <robotgeek> sunshine82: hmm, but not the ones from before right
[01:08] <bla|patrick> frogzoo, are u talking to me?
[01:08] <jareth_> what are the repos for breezy backports?
[01:08] <Cyfr> :'( Tried installing aMSN from cvs and get 'You can't load TkCximage' when i try and run it :<
[01:08] <bla|patrick> crap
[01:08] <bla|patrick> this is annoying...
[01:08] <sunshine82> robotgeek http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4404
[01:09] <bla|patrick> using a dell fps2005 on dvi of my radeon 9800
[01:09] <bla|patrick> using default ati drivers
[01:09] <robotgeek> thoreauputic: it can be down. i did that when i had os x
[01:09] <bla|patrick> which are part of xorg
[01:09] <crimsun> marlun: does ''aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' play anything audible?
[01:09] <rohan> hi all
[01:10] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: yes . I know it can - I had it working on warty - breezy refuses to co-operate
[01:10] <rohan> what do i use ? easyubuntu or automatix ? i am confused
[01:10] <hamdan> i cant sea build-essencial ?? how i can get it
[01:10] <marlun> crimsun, yeah, and very loudly! ;P
[01:10] <bla|patrick> and why is the image strechted?
[01:10] <nalioth> rohan: use neither
[01:10] <crimsun> marlun: great, problem resolved.
[01:10] <rohan> nalioth: why ? :D
[01:10] <nalioth> hamdan: if you spell it correctly, you'll see it. build-essential
[01:10] <rohan> nalioth: i like to act lazy
[01:10] <marlun> crimsun, so the solution was what you told me in #flood?
[01:10] <robotgeek> sunshine82: you might need to patch it correctly
[01:10] <marlun> crimsun, I had the intel thing as default sound device?
[01:10] <crimsun> marlun: yes, it was a one-time affair. No need to worry about it again.
[01:11] <nalioth> rohan: those scripts can wreck your box, visit help.ubuntu.com
[01:11] <marlun> crimsun, what if I crash ubuntu and need re reinstall? =)
[01:11] <nalioth> rohan: being lazy in this case can lead to reinstallation
[01:11] <thoreauputic> hamdan: open a terminal, and type   sudo aptitude install build-essential
[01:11] <rohan> nalioth: reported incidents, any ?
[01:11] <crimsun> marlun: for future reference, look at System> Preferences> Sound. You can pick your default sound device there.
[01:11] <sunshine82> robotgeek do u remeber the page
[01:11] <rohan> nalioth: fine then :S i suppose i will use the faq guide :D
[01:11] <marlun> crimsun, lol, thanks, thats a little easier.
[01:11] <thoreauputic> hamdan: that is all you have to do
[01:11] <marlun> crimsun, thank you very much for the help! =)
[01:11] <crimsun> marlun: np.
[01:11] <nalioth> rohan: plenty of broken boxen reported, yes
[01:12] <patrick_> re
[01:12] <thoreauputic> crimsun: sleep well :)
[01:12] <rohan> nalioth: ok .. then i will surely stick to faq guide :D
[01:12] <robotgeek> sunshine82: http://nw802.sourceforge.net/news.html
[01:12] <bla|patrick> now i changed to the ati drivers
[01:12] <bla|patrick> but its still streched if i use 4:3/5:4 resolutions
[01:12] <bla|patrick> where can i configure the behaviour of this?
[01:13] <hamdan> but ican found build-essential
[01:13] <hamdan> icant
[01:13] <bla|patrick> it would be better if streching is done by the monitor
[01:13] <nalioth> hamdan: it is there, search in synaptic for "essential"
[01:13] <thoreauputic> hamdan: did you do what we said ?
[01:13] <beowu1f> anyone here using firestarter? whenever i enable firewall seems to not alow me to even ping any site
[01:13] <malv> i can honestly say that breezy had less issues than windows during the installation of this new hardware
[01:13] <bla|patrick> nobody there who has a clue whats wrong here?
[01:14] <hamdan> ok i found it
[01:14] <JpeX> salut
[01:14] <malv> oddly enough, the drivers that came with my new Nvidia 6800 GS wouldn't even install in Windows
[01:14] <thoreauputic> hamdan: build-essential installs compilers and the make command etc
[01:15] <JpeX> comment on fait pour tlcharger des theme ubuntu ?
[01:15] <malv> yet, with ubuntu, it was a simple sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:15] <nalioth> !fr
[01:15] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[01:15] <JpeX> ok
[01:15] <frogzoo> bla|patrick: are you running fglrx btw?
[01:15] <bla|patrick> ya... now i do
[01:15] <thoreauputic> JpeX:  install gnome-themes-extras for a start
[01:15] <bla|patrick> after that i had res 1680x1050
[01:15] <nalioth> JpeX: anglais ici, franais in #ubuntu-fr, s'il vous plait
[01:15] <bla|patrick> but (!) linux still stretches
[01:16] <thoreauputic> *themes
[01:16] <cagdas> hi all
[01:16] <frogzoo> bla|patrick: backup your old /etc/X/xorg.conf then run fglrxconfig
[01:16] <cagdas> I simply want to listen some midi files
[01:16] <cagdas> but, howto's are very complicated for such a simple task
[01:16] <thoreauputic> cagdas: install timidity and freepats
[01:16] <cagdas> do anyone have a simple way?
[01:16] <thoreauputic> then type timidity file.mid
[01:17] <marlun> I've mounted a ntfs partition where I've got some music, I've added the music folder to rythmbox's library folder but when I try to play songs I get a big black exclamation mark to the left of the song name, and the song is not played, why is this? =)
[01:17] <wickedpuppy> cause that song doesn't exist
[01:17] <wickedpuppy> simple
[01:17] <nalioth> marlun: you cant write to ntfs partitions
[01:17] <frogzoo> marlun: can you read the directory/files?
[01:17] <marlun> yes i can
[01:18] <marlun> I tried to copy a file from the ntfs partition to my home folder, and the icon got a little lock on it, and i can't play that file either
[01:18] <reon> Hi, what does 'sh load' do ???
[01:18] <hamdan> make ( unsatisfied) what this mean ? ?
[01:18] <frogzoo> reon: man load
[01:18] <thoreauputic> reon: runs the script "load" presumably
[01:19] <marlun> but it seemed as if I could copy the file, because it gets added to my home folder, just with that little lock in the upper right corner of the icon.
[01:19] <reon> frogzoo: I'm trying to follow a procedure to hack a ipw2200 card but I get an error when I do 'sh load'
[01:19] <thoreauputic> hamdan: what on earth are you tryingto do?
[01:20] <Fr0Gs> how do i empty my trash can threw ssh in ubuntu?
[01:20] <cagdas> thanks, thoreauputic
[01:20] <BooZee> !firewire
[01:20] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, BooZee
[01:20] <cagdas> actually, I have installed them some days ago
[01:20] <cagdas> but it failed to play the midi
[01:20] <marlun> nalioth, frogzoo, any ideas? =)
[01:20] <cagdas> this time I didn't install them again but simply tried to play the midi
[01:20] <nalioth> marlun: change the permissions on the files you dragged to your home folder from your ntfs partitions
[01:20] <cagdas> can there be such a case that I had to reboot linux?
[01:21] <thoreauputic> cagdas: no, more likely the start up script for timidity needed to run
[01:21] <frogzoo> marlun: if you can't copy the file, you won't be able to play it, fer sure
[01:21] <BooZee> How can I use firewire in ubuntu?
[01:21] <thoreauputic> cagdas: soa reboot ran it
[01:21] <Fr0Gs> how do i empty my trash can threw ssh in ubuntu?
[01:22] <marlun> frogzoo, I can copy it, thats what I said ;P I copied it to my home folder from my ntfs partition
[01:22] <frogzoo> reon: are you on breezy? ipw2200 should just work
[01:22] <hamdan> ok build-essential was installed but why the terminal understand " make "
[01:22] <marlun> nalioth, I tried that, adding write permissions for everyone, but that didn't work =/
[01:22] <nalioth> BooZee: if you have a firewire port on your box, yes
[01:22] <cagdas> thoreauputic, hmm, you mean a script called by my bash.rc or such?
[01:22] <frogzoo> marlun: but then you said you couldn't play it still?
[01:22] <Fr0Gs> how do i empty my trash can threw ssh in ubuntu?
[01:22] <nalioth> Fr0Gs: ~/.Trash
[01:22] <hamdan> didnt inderstand
[01:22] <thoreauputic> cagdas: no,  /etc/init.d/timidity
[01:22] <hamdan> uderstand
[01:22] <BooZee> nalioth:  ofcourse i have, i wouldn't have asked how can I use it if I didn't had it
[01:22] <marlun> frogzoo, yes
[01:22] <reon> frogzoo thoreauputic: Please look at this 'sh load' output, http://pastebin.com/426506
[01:23] <nalioth> BooZee: you'd be surprised at the folks who dont, and ask
[01:23] <marlun> frogzoo, nalioth, if I try to play the file in Rythmbox it freezes
[01:23] <cagdas> thoreauputic, playing a midi is so complex to play a deamon for it?
[01:23] <BooZee> nalioth: gotcha..  so how can I use it?
[01:23] <hamdan> why the terminal cant understand make command
[01:23] <hamdan> ?
[01:23] <frogzoo> reon: the Howto you're following isn't for your setup - it's old or something
[01:23] <nalioth> BooZee: plug in whatever you have to it, my external f/w drives work great on my ibook
[01:24] <thoreauputic> reon: looks like your modules are duds
[01:24] <reon> frogzoo:ipw2200 is not really the problem. I need to hack the ipw2200 driver so I can write to the cards eeprom in order to change vendor & device ID. card is whitleisted ion HP nx6610 BIOS so i need to change it.
[01:24] <zx80user> <y Ubuntu box no longer boot straight to X but to a tty and then I have to run startx - I cannot see what fixes this, can someone help?
[01:24] <thoreauputic> cagdas: well, timidity starts up in various ways - one way is in "server" mode
[01:24] <BooZee> nalioth: o.k. and what next?
[01:24] <Cyfr> zzzzzzzzzz :( whys amsn being so gay :'<
[01:25] <nalioth> BooZee: what are you plugging in?
[01:25] <nalioth> Cyfr: use gaim
[01:25] <BooZee> another computer
[01:25] <Cyfr> no webcam support
[01:25] <thoreauputic> cagdas: and if you are using freepats or sound fonts there's emulation of hardware stuff as well
[01:25] <u-sun> hello
[01:26] <BooZee> nalioth: another comp. laptop.  but the firewire isn't showing in the Networking window...
[01:26] <frogzoo> marlun: cp /mnt/ntfs/song /home ; diff song /home
[01:26] <Fr0Gs> how do i empty my trash can?
[01:26] <Fr0Gs> how do i empty my trash can?
[01:26] <Fr0Gs> threw ssh
[01:26] <u-sun> i am trying to install wireless software that will read my card
[01:26] <nalioth> BooZee: is the other computer an apple of recent vintage
[01:26] <antipode> anyone know how to do tis?
[01:26] <nalioth> Fr0Gs: i told you how to
[01:26] <cagdas> thoreauputic, thanks for help and detailed information.
[01:26] <thoreauputic> Fr0Gs:  rm -r ~/.Trash
[01:27] <cagdas> see u all
[01:27] <antipode> i have un tarred ipw2200-1.02
[01:27] <nalioth> ubotu tell antipode about wireless
[01:27] <reon> frogzoo thoreauputic: I'm trying to implement this,  http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=30&threadid=1310709&frmKeyword=&STARTPAGE=7&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear
[01:27] <BooZee> nalioth: nope. a regular laptop, with xp pro
[01:27] <thoreauputic> umm... better would be cd to .Trash and remove
[01:27] <antipode> plz do
[01:27] <frogzoo> thoreauputic: Fr0Gs rm -r ~/.Trash/* pls - otherwise you'll remove the .Trash dir
[01:27] <marlun> frogzoo, ok, I'll try
[01:27] <Cyfr> Gah ;< and easyubuntu install of amsn pretends to install it but actualy dosnt :S
[01:28] <thoreauputic> frogzoo: yes good point :)
[01:28] <moo> i installed ubuntu 5.10. i have finnish keyboard layout. altgr key doesn't work. etc. altgr+2 doesn't produce (at) symbol. google didn't reveal how to fix this.
[01:28] <hamdan> please i want to to do " make " command but bash dont understand
[01:28] <tucoz> Hi, what package should I install for X11 development. I cant find X11/Intrinsic.h
[01:28] <frogzoo> hamdan sry, but if you're having problems installing make, make isn't for you - seriously
[01:28] <thoreauputic> hamdan: it isn't bash that has that problem - it's you :)
[01:28] <Cyfr> *installs windows* :p
[01:29] <nalioth> BooZee: then i know nothing about firewire networking
[01:29] <thoreauputic> tucoz: probably x-window-system-dev for a start
[01:29] <kbrooks> Cyfr: dont use easyubuntu
[01:29] <tucoz> thoreauputic, thanks!
[01:29] <moo> hamdam; you are probably missing development tools package
[01:29] <nalioth> BooZee: apples can be started in "target disk mode" which tells anything plugged in to see it as a HD
[01:30] <moo> hamdam: it doesn't come in default install
[01:30] <Cyfr> I can't get amsn to work no matter if I compile from latest cvs or get it from easyubuntu
[01:30] <thoreauputic> moo:  we told him
[01:30] <Cyfr> the whole ubuntu just works thing has gone down the pan since last time I used it =p
[01:30] <kbrooks> nalioth: that opens up all sorts of interesting possibilities
[01:30] <thoreauputic> Cyfr: try gaim - it does msn fine
[01:30] <BooZee> anybody knows about firewire networking
[01:30] <BooZee> ??
[01:30] <kbrooks> Cyfr: dont use amsn.
[01:30] <Cyfr> It dosnt work with webcam tho
[01:30] <kbrooks> Cyfr: it wil
[01:31] <frogzoo> Cyfr: Breezy is only a couple weeks new - give it a little longer for the repos to catch up
[01:31] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[01:31] <kbrooks> in 2 months
[01:31] <Cyfr> ;|
[01:31] <kbrooks> Cyfr: gaim.sf.net
[01:31] <kbrooks> Cyfr: until then google gaim-vv
[01:31] <Cyfr> gaim-vv dosnt support msn webcam yet
[01:31] <kbrooks> !info gaim-vv
[01:31] <nalioth> kbrooks: not here yet
[01:32] <tucoz> thoreauputic, that helped. Got it compiling now
[01:32] <hamdan> -bash: make: command not found
[01:32] <kbrooks> nalioth: ?
[01:33] <marlun> frogzoo, the diff thing didn't work.
[01:33] <kbrooks> hamdan: so install build-essential
[01:33] <thoreauputic> hamdan: then you didn't install build-essential
[01:33] <hamdan_> i install it
[01:33] <hamdan_> then what i can do  ? ?
[01:34] <thoreauputic> hamdan: that package contains the "make" command, among other things
[01:34] <Linforcer> makes me wonder why it doesn't come with build-essentials by default >_>
[01:34] <Linforcer> because it's supposed to be all "binary for teh win" ?
[01:34] <hamdan> yes
[01:34] <kbrooks> Linforcer: no
[01:34] <bla|patrick> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589&posted=1 <-- i'll try to install ati drivers with the new controlpanel
[01:35] <Linforcer> sigh
[01:35] <kbrooks> hamdan: no
[01:35] <bla|patrick> anything to add to this tutorial?
[01:35] <Linforcer> lol
[01:35] <bla|patrick> anything i should know?
[01:35] <nalioth> Linforcer: ubuntu is aimed at ma and pa kettle, not 733+ h@X0r
[01:35] <bla|patrick> hopefully i can setup there the stretchingbehaviour
[01:35] <kbrooks> Linforcer: compiling is  not suitable for desktop
[01:35] <kbrooks> nalioth: RO
[01:35] <kbrooks> FL
[01:35] <unixnorks> sup guys!
[01:35] <bjv> anyone use lwm? it rocks but ive got a question.
[01:35] <Linforcer> nalioth yeah.. I guess... it's why I love giving it to all my clueless friends while using gentoo myself :D
[01:35] <kbrooks> nalioth: you know how to type in leet .. ;)
[01:36] <unixnorks> anybody here knows or has experienced to configure ldap?
[01:36] <Linforcer> kbrooks: he does not leet is 1337
[01:36] <nalioth> Linforcer: please join #ubuntu-offtopic and we can discuss spelling
[01:36] <kib0> excuse me, is there any package to install opengl and glut librarys on ubuntu?
[01:36] <kbrooks> Linforcer: couldn't parse
[01:36] <thoreauputic> Linforcer: we aren't here to debate the merits or l33tness of distros
[01:36] <hamdan> ok can i install kse shell ??
[01:36] <Linforcer> alright alright... relaaaax
[01:37] <kib0> i tryed libgl-mesa-dev.. but that didnt work
[01:37] <nalioth> nickrud: welcome to the world
[01:37] <nickrud> good morning nalioth :)
[01:37] <Lathiat> kib0: you want glutg3-dev i think
[01:38] <unixnorks> i've been troubled on how i can make a proper centralized login in ldap..
[01:38] <thoreauputic> Linforcer: wow you use chatzilla - pretty advanced for a gentoobie :)
[01:38] <nickrud> tomorrow sounds good
[01:38] <kib0> :O, thanks Lathiat
[01:38] <Linforcer> thoreauputic: I like stuff integrated into my browser
[01:38] <nickrud> 10am?
[01:38] <Linforcer> thoreauputic: but isn't that offtopic too?
[01:38] <thoreauputic> Linforcer: sure, sure
[01:38] <unixnorks> no one knows ldap here?
[01:38] <liable> wow /ver..
[01:38] <thoreauputic> Linforcer: absolutely
[01:38] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:38] <Linforcer> k then :P
[01:39] <unixnorks> alright, i understand thanks anyways...to all of you
[01:39] <thoreauputic> liable: hah
[01:39] <thoreauputic> liable: nice try :)
[01:39] <serAphim> hi. i tried an expert-installation on my second pc, everything worked fine but i can't sudo. i was told to put the user into the group "admin"...but there is no group named admin :/
[01:40] <liable> it was.. oh well...
[01:40] <bla|patrick> crap
[01:41] <bla|patrick> that tutorial failed with breezy :(
[01:41] <bla|patrick> need help
[01:41] <frogzoo> bla|patrick: have you tried fglrxconfig ???
[01:41] <bla|patrick> didnt worked
[01:41] <bla|patrick> no setting to control the behaviour of the stretching
[01:42] <bla|patrick> then i uninstalled flgrx and tried to install the newest propritary driver
[01:42] <Yulia> After first step installation it dies and says this: /boot: unexpedted inconssistency. run fsck  manually. fsck failed.I run it but not solved
[01:42] <bla|patrick> and now terminal displays errors during building the files for install
[01:43] <bla|patrick> nothing works :(
[01:43] <bla|patrick> package build failed
[01:43] <frogzoo> bla|patrick: move the backed up xorg.config back in place
[01:43] <bla|patrick> frogzoo, no, i'll install the new driver
[01:44] <bla|patrick> the ones in the reposotories are too old IMO
[01:45] <weiers> Hi, just installed breezy. My sound is not working, where should I begin trouble shooting?
[01:46] <serAphim> okay, so now i just created a group called admin, but still sudo doesn't work
[01:46] <serAphim> can anybody help me please? :/
[01:47] <Hobbsee> weiers: what type of soundcard?  an integrated one?
[01:47] <ian> Anybody have MythTV working on Breezy?
[01:47] <ian> or even just TVTIME
[01:48] <weiers> Hi Hobbsee, I think it is integrated: Default soundcard shown as HDA Intel
[01:48] <CosmoDad> anyone know how to permanently force applications to start in a particular virtual desktop?
[01:48] <Hobbsee> weiers: go into alsamixer, make sure everything is turned up, then mute headphone jack sense and line jack sense, then try
[01:49] <nickrud> CosmoDad, there's devilspie. Not real user friendly, but it lets you do that kind of thing
[01:49] <CosmoDad> nickrud: yeah I've seen that tool before, but as you said, it's really messy configure
[01:49] <CosmoDad> nickrud: I wonder if someone made something easier...
[01:49] <bla|patrick> crap crap crap
[01:49] <bla|patrick> come on guys...
[01:49] <bla|patrick> nobody there who can tell me, whats wrong with this tutorial
[01:49] <nickrud> CosmoDad, not that I've seen.
[01:50] <bla|patrick> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589&posted=1
[01:50] <CosmoDad> nickrud: but thanks for the hint, if I can't find anything else, I'll go for devilspie
[01:50] <bla|patrick> i dont get it installing the freshe compiled sources of fglrx
[01:50] <SirKillalot> [4455096.910000]  FAT: Filesystem panic (dev hdb7)
[01:50] <SirKillalot> [4455096.910000]      fat_free_clusters: deleting FAT entry beyond EOF
[01:50] <SirKillalot> [4455096.910000]      File system has been set read-only
[01:50] <SirKillalot> what does that mean?
[01:50] <SirKillalot> a corrupt file?
[01:51] <beowu1f> any firewall guru's here that could possibly give me a hand
[01:51] <beowu1f> cant ping any site when i enable my firestarter firewall?
[01:51] <nalioth> beowu1f: firewall?
[01:51] <nalioth> beowu1f: you dont need a firewall
[01:51] <Bags> Hi all.
[01:51] <nickrud> CosmoDad, if you come up with a generic stanza, please share :) I don't have time to learn it.
[01:52] <beowu1f> nalioth: trying to share internet connection with other pc's in my place
[01:52] <weiers> Hobbsee, I think I did that now, but nothing yet
[01:52] <CosmoDad> nickrud: I will :)
[01:52] <Bags> Anyone here had any experience compiling with Mono
[01:52] <Bags> ?
[01:52] <nalioth> beowu1f: ah, then you are using it for ICS
[01:52] <beowu1f> and firestarter has a connection sharing option ;)
[01:52] <beowu1f> yes
[01:52] <vincent_> how do you change directories in linux?
[01:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vincent_ about cli
[01:53] <beowu1f> but alas i cant even ping a site whenever i enable the firewall
[01:53] <drasko> Hi all. Today my linix won't boot - grub gives me error 17. I did fixmbr from windoze, so I can see that my linux partition is full as eye, and can not be mounted from knopyx, nor seen from winsoze over explore2fs. What can I do?
[01:53] <Bags> beowulf - were you saying yes to me?
[01:53] <vincent_> No manual entry for cli
[01:53] <ian> vincent_, From the terminal?
[01:53] <vincent_> yes
[01:53] <beowu1f> Bags: sorry no
[01:54] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I'd like not to insert ID and PW at the login because I'm the only user.how can i do?
[01:54] <vincent_> hey are you the ian from belgium?
[01:54] <Bags> ok
[01:54] <nalioth> vincent_: um, read what ubotu sent you
[01:54] <ian> vincent_,  No Im the Ian from Singapore
[01:54] <vincent_> uboto or ubuntu?
[01:54] <liable> singaporian? :)
[01:55] <nalioth> vincent_: you should have a private message from ubotu
[01:55] <sexcopter8001m> drasko, i got an error 17 before, followed the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows wiki and it worked fine
[01:55] <sexcopter8001m> oh damn, he jsut left :s
[01:55] <CosmoDad> I've read somewhere that totem-xine is to be preferred over totem-gstreamer. Is that correct?
[01:55] <CosmoDad> ...still correct?
[01:56] <tito> Hi
[01:56] <tito> I have a laptop and when I hook a crt up to it I don't get an image how can I fix this?
[01:56] <thoreauputic> CosmoDad: sadly yes
[01:56] <CosmoDad> thoreauputic: alright
[01:56] <ian> One more time (out of sheer desperation). Does anybody have experience with running MythTV on Breey....?
[01:56] <thoreauputic> CosmoDad: totem-xine is far better
[01:56] <ian> pretty please
[01:57] <CosmoDad> thoreauputic: I'll replace my gstreamer version...
[01:57] <NewWithoutClue> ian, would a no help?
[01:57] <NewWithoutClue> :)
[01:57] <NewWithoutClue> sorry,
[01:57] <ian> NewWithoutClue,  It wouldnt but at least its a response.
[01:58] <thoreauputic> CosmoDad: it's the first thing I did after tryin totem on my new breezy install - gstreamer ahs promise but it has a ways to go
[01:58] <CosmoDad> thoreauputic: I wonder why it's so bad, isn't the gstreamer architecture said to be quite good?
[01:59] <nalioth> CosmoDad: whichever works for you
[01:59] <thoreauputic> CosmoDad: it isn't bad - it works fine with free codecs etc like ogg vorbis and theora
[01:59] <tito> I have a laptop and when I hook a crt up to it I don't get an image how can I fix this?
[01:59] <thoreauputic> CosmoDad: the xine engine is more mature, that's all - it supports more stuff
[02:00] <CosmoDad> thoreauputic: I see
[02:00] <thoreauputic> CosmoDad: gstreamer even works fine for mp3 with the gstreamer0.8-mad plugin
[02:00] <Turtlewind> I'm having some problems accessing a FAT32 partition
[02:00] <Turtlewind> I can mount it as root, but when I try to use chown to assign it to my user account it tells me "Operation not permitted"
[02:01] <Turtlewind> and if I do 'sudo nautilus' it gives me a similar error when I try to give ownership to the normal user
[02:01] <Turtlewind> has anyone encountered this problem before?
[02:01] <CosmoDad> Turtlewind: you cannot chmod on FAT32 since it does not support owner rights
[02:02] <CosmoDad> Turtlewind: s/chmod/chown/
[02:02] <Turtlewind> Ah, OK. How should I give myself access to it then?
[02:02] <CosmoDad> Turtlewind: you'll have to use umask and parameters like these while mounting, see man mount
[02:02] <NewWithoutClue> CosmoDad, even if you mount it to a user made folder?
[02:02] <FruityLoop> wenn ich eine daten cd bei k3b erstelle und da mp3s mimt brenne, laufen die dann auch in meinem mp3 autoradio
[02:02] <Turtlewind> NewWithoutClue - that's what I did, and it didn't work
[02:02] <Turtlewind> CosmoDad - thanks a lot
[02:02] <CosmoDad> NewWithoutClue: admittedly, I'm not sure
[02:03] <thoreauputic> !de
[02:03] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[02:03] <k31th> guys anyone got Radeon 7500 to run duals ?
[02:03] <weiers> It seems I got the soundcard to work by changing device from HDA Intel (alsa mixer) to Realtec ALC880 (OSS mixer)...Although I have quite a lot of noise in the background when I turn the volume all the way up. Is this normal?
[02:03] <NewWithoutClue> Turtlewind, ahh...sorry for butting in.
[02:03] <CosmoDad> NewWithoutClue: well no chown is never possible
[02:03] <ngd> hey guys, anyone else had trouble installing initrd-tools during installation?
[02:03] <CosmoDad> NewWithoutClue: it's just that the filesystem doesn't support it, no matter who you are
[02:04] <NewWithoutClue> ahh, then why the permission errors?
[02:04] <NewWithoutClue> CosmoDad, ^^^^
[02:04] <thoreauputic> NewWithoutClue: the file that needs changing is /etc/fstab
[02:04] <BlueEagle> Where do I change my net card from dhcp to static ip?
[02:05] <ian> If a re-build my Breezy box with a PVR card installed (Hauppauage 150) would it be configured automatically? Or would I still need to manually configure after the build completes?
[02:05] <tito> Can anyone help me?
[02:05] <thoreauputic> NewWithoutClue: you are barking up the wrong tree ;)
[02:05] <CosmoDad> thoreauputic: that's supposed to hear Turtlewind
[02:05] <tito> I have a crt that I plug into a laptop but i don't get a display
[02:05] <moo> worked around alt gr key issue
[02:05] <bedi> BlueEagle: ifconfig ethX ip up
[02:05] <weiers> Is there a way to install Openoffice.Org2 via synaptic? I seem Breezy installs 1.9.129 as a default
[02:05] <BlueEagle> tito: Have you set up your xorg.conf to use the external monitor?
[02:05] <moo> type in following command: setxkbmap -layout fi
[02:05] <CosmoDad> BlueEagle: via the GNOME GUI or manually in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:05] <BlueEagle> bedi: I need to do that on boot somwhere.
[02:06] <NewWithoutClue> thoreauputic, lol, thanks.
[02:06] <bedi> ip = the new ip, i dont know it work :)
[02:06] <BlueEagle> cosmodad: Do I just change from dhcp to 10.0.0.2 ?
[02:06] <CosmoDad> BlueEagle: no from dhcp to "static"
[02:06] <bedi> BlueEagle: will you use it whit a bridged nodem ?
[02:06] <tito> BlueEagle, no
[02:06] <tito> How would I do that?
[02:06] <BlueEagle> cosmodad: Where do I then setup the ip to use?
[02:06] <snorks> as long as you use same net id and mask, you can set your ip to whatever mask defines
[02:06] <BlueEagle> bedi: always on connection gateway on 10.0.0.138
[02:06] <CosmoDad> BlueEagle: use the GNOME gui or read the interfaces manpage
[02:07] <BlueEagle> cosmodad: server install. No gnome.
[02:07] <snorks> chris and
[02:07] <CosmoDad> BlueEagle: then read the manpage
[02:07] <BlueEagle> cosmodad: heading for the manual :)
[02:07] <tito> BlueEagle, how would I add the external monitor to my xorg config?
[02:07] <BlueEagle> cosmodad: thanks :)
[02:08] <PJeremy> weiers: you do realise that there's no OOo2 final release yet don't you?
[02:08] <Turtlewind> Thanks a lot everyone; I've got it mounted properly now
[02:08] <Turtlewind> :)
[02:08] <NewWithoutClue> woot!
[02:08] <BlueEagle> tito: I've got no idea. Have never done that. I would assume you need to set up another device, display and screen.
[02:08] <BlueEagle> tito: and monitor.
[02:08] <CosmoDad> BlueEagle: quick guide: use the words "address, netmask, broadcast, gateway" on each line following your stanza in interfaces and put the IP address next to each word
[02:09] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[02:09] <PJeremy> weiers: they're at 1.9.139
[02:09] <snorks> Wake up Neo
[02:09] <snorks> ..
[02:09] <tito> BlueEagle, yeah I figured I just not sure what ot put in it
[02:09] <weiers> Hi PJeremy, I did not know that
[02:09] <NewWithoutClue> var='foo'
[02:09] <snorks> Who has network problems?
[02:09] <snorks> Maybe I can help
[02:09] <weiers> PJeremy, I thought that they had allready announced the release of OOo2
[02:10] <EnsignRedshirt> Is there a way to fix the "GPG error: .... BADSIG..." error that I have been getting for several days when I Reload in Synaptic.  There are several threads about it in the forum, but I haven't found a fix.
[02:10] <bla|patrick> OOo2 is final for two weeks now
[02:10] <snorks> cost money?
[02:10] <bla|patrick> no... its freeware
[02:10] <snorks> was wrong channel
[02:11] <bla|patrick> kk
[02:11] <bla|patrick> crap... i dont get it
[02:11] <PJeremy> bla|patrick: 2 weeks ago they were at 1.9.137 or so.. so how can you say final for two weeks?
[02:11] <bla|patrick> how do i install the new ati drivers in ubuntu
[02:11] <bla|patrick> PJeremy, they announced it early november
[02:11] <thoreauputic> !ati
[02:11] <ubotu> ati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:11] <bla|patrick> so its almost two weeks
[02:13] <snorks> Does anyone know of a XMMS tune broadcast-to-IRC-channel thingy? Don't know what such apps are called
[02:13] <snorks> or plugin, rather
[02:14] <weiers> Why does this site then claim that Openoffice 2 is here and review it? (And several other sites, including the openoffice.org homepage?)http://technology.newsforge.com/newsvac/05/10/27/2038239.shtml
[02:14] <bla|patrick> oh... i see, its avaible since late october
[02:14] <bla|patrick> 20th october
[02:14] <frogzoo> !tell bla|patrick about fglrx
[02:14] <thoreauputic> snorks: they are called how-to-get-kicked-realy-fast
[02:14] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:15] <weiers> Ok, if Openoffice.org2 is out. Is there a way to install it via synaptic or apt-get?
[02:15] <bla|patrick> i need a tutorial that explains how to install the new drivers of ati in breezy
[02:15] <bla|patrick> with the new installer
[02:15] <bla|patrick> and the new controlpanel
[02:15] <NewWithoutClue> snorks: apt-get kicked?
[02:15] <NewWithoutClue> snorks, i heard rythombox has a plugin for that.
[02:16] <bla|patrick> those linked pages are referring to the "ancient" versions of ati :(
[02:16] <tito> Why don't the repos have limewire?
[02:17] <jareth_> tito: try gtk-gnutella
[02:17] <blaamann> limewire is easy to install
[02:17] <blackhat> i have yet been able to install it, i use gtk-gnutella
[02:17] <frogzoo> bla|patrick: sudo apt-get install fglrx ??
[02:18] <tito> jareth_, my cousin dont' know hwo to use that
[02:18] <tito> jareth_, were should I install frostwire for them? /opt?
[02:18] <tito> I don't use ubuntu so i don't know the proper places
[02:19] <yohan> how can i mount a ntfs drive so that i can write to it?
[02:19] <jareth_> tito: can't tell you
[02:19] <frogzoo> !tell yohan about ntfs
[02:19] <CosmoDad> yohan: you sure you wanna try that?
[02:19] <frogzoo> yohan: ntfs is read only
[02:19] <jareth_> tito: i install stuff in /usr/share...
[02:20] <xukun> !tell xukun about ntfs
[02:20] <thoreauputic> jareth_: that's a weird place to install - the right place is /usr/local or /opt
[02:20] <yohan> i just need to copy some files
[02:20] <yohan> how can i transfer files to my ntfs hd?
[02:21] <jareth_> thoreaupatic: keep it in mind :)
[02:21] <thoreauputic>  /uar/local is preferred in ubuntu/ debian
[02:21] <yohan> should i do that through windows instead?
[02:21] <jatos> hi
[02:21] <Ophiocus> stevejesus, stop getting into pr0n sites.llLll
[02:21] <Ophiocus> ...l
[02:21] <Ophiocus> l
[02:21] <thoreauputic> also note that /usr/local/bin comes early in $PATH and thus is easier to set up for new apps
[02:21] <jatos> how would I get wifi working with access to just the console?
[02:22] <bla|patrick> frogzoo, those in the reposotories are old
[02:22] <bla|patrick> 8.16.20 vs 8.19.10
[02:22] <Ophiocus> ll.km 'k kkkkkkkkk
[02:23] <bla|patrick> i thought i have mentioned that i try to install the latest driver
[02:23] <bla|patrick> didnt i?
[02:23] <xukun> jatos, iwcofig eth1 essid "name"
[02:23] <planB> can anybody help me with playing mp3 from a mounted ntfs partition ?
[02:23] <planB> for some reason it says the file not playable
[02:24] <planB> and i got all gstreamer plugins
[02:24] <jatos> thanks xukun
[02:24] <bla|patrick> afk... have to to do some shopping now
[02:24] <xukun> jatos, does it work
[02:24] <xukun> ?
[02:25] <BooZee> need help with FireWire !
[02:25] <spiral> 'bye
[02:25] <vidal> hello
[02:26] <[nige] > hey all
[02:26] <[nige] > :)
[02:26] <planB> hey
[02:26] <BooZee> who can help me with firewire connection to ubuntu ??
[02:26] <[nige] > does anyone know if ATI Cards supports Xinerama
[02:26] <vidal> how download file on irc
[02:26] <vidal> please
[02:26] <planB> any idea's why can't i play mp3 ? (got all gstreamer plugins, tried alsalink instead of osslink)
[02:27] <Chris_in_the_uk> Afternoon everyone, i'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 5.04 and 5.10.  It runs the install until it starts "retriving NIC Firmware 2.6 10-5-386-di" then the screen goes black, tries again, then goes black again etc etc.  In the 5.10 installation, a similar thing happens except the message "Failed" blinks in the bottom left corner of the screen
[02:27] <thoreauputic> planB: what player?
[02:27] <jareth_> planB: install mpg123
[02:27] <Chris_in_the_uk> by the way, hi all
[02:27] <planB> tryed amarok and the one came with the install forgot the name
[02:27] <dalani> hello
[02:27] <planB> mpg123...lemme try
[02:27] <jareth_> planB: sure :)
[02:27] <thoreauputic> planB: do you have gstreamer0.8-mad installed ?
[02:27] <planB> -mad....hmmm i think so lemme check
[02:27] <BooZee> why ubuntu isn't seeing my firewire ??
[02:28] <planB> mpg123 did the trick
[02:28] <planB> thanks jareth
[02:28] <thoreauputic> planB: it works with mp3 for totem and rhythmbox (music player)
[02:28] <jareth_> planB: ur welcome!
[02:29] <planB> i'm using amarok...
[02:29] <thoreauputic> planB: I suggest you try beep-media-player - it works well with mp3
[02:29] <thoreauputic> planB: amarok handles mp3 just fine
[02:29] <jatos> xukun, doesn't work
[02:29] <jatos> don't think its recognised my linksys card
[02:30] <planB> hasn't used linux for couple of years...good to see hot it developed
[02:30] <planB> its realy starting to have potential to replace windows
[02:30] <BooZee> !firewire
[02:30] <ubotu> BooZee: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:30] <thoreauputic> planB: already has for many of us here :)
[02:30] <snorks> planB: maybe if you dont play games
[02:30] <planB> i don't play games, but my scanner doesn't work properly
[02:30] <planB> and i cant transfer songs to my sony mp3 player
[02:31] <snorks> but im thinking Vista will be good :/
[02:31] <Chris_in_the_uk> Can anyone help with installing ubuntu? it's all going horribly wrongh
[02:31] <planB> besides those 2...
[02:31] <thoreauputic> OK late here - sleep time: have fun !
[02:31] <planB> seems like everythink works
[02:31] <blackhat> whats the file i need to apt-get to view wmv/mpeg/avi films, it needs the codec....
[02:31] <BooZee> can somebody help me with FIREWIRE ?
[02:31] <planB> and its not as complicated as it was in the past
[02:31] <jareth_> thoreaupatic: sleep well !
[02:31] <[nige] > why dont you fix it and right replacments planB :P
[02:31] <thoreauputic> jareth_: thanks :)
[02:32] <frogzoo> !tell blackhat about restricted
[02:32] <bla|patrick> re
[02:32] <snorks> planB: everything works here. well, mostly. linux is ready for desktop, it just need a little more pre-installed stuff for the daily noob user
[02:32] <planB> there is no replacements for sonicstage as far as i know
[02:32] <elver> How can I insert a dummy package into Ubuntu? I mean, I've got an older Ubuntu package that depends on package "foo" that got renamed to "bar" and "bar" is installed, but the old package still wants "foo". How can I fool the system into thinking that "foo" is installed?
[02:32] <Chris_in_the_uk> Has anyone tried installing ubuntu on a low memory system?
[02:32] <planB> how low
[02:32] <Fearan> Chris_in_the_uk: i am running one atm
[02:32] <snorks> planB: as well as easier installation of programs found on the web. some common installshield wizard
[02:32] <frogzoo> elver: try a forced install - but you probably don't want to do this, get the updated  package
[02:33] <planB> yea...apt-get is great
[02:33] <Chris_in_the_uk> feran: i'm having install probems which i think could be releated to my low memroy
[02:33] <tito> hi how can i get mp3 to work?
[02:33] <Fearan> Chris_in_the_uk: how much ram do you have?
[02:33] <frogzoo> !tell tito about restricted
[02:33] <elver> frogzoo, there is no update package. Force install works. But I can't apt-get install anything after that. It tells me to apt-get -f install and when I do, it uninstalls the old package.
[02:33] <Chris_in_the_uk> Feran: 32768K according to my bios check
[02:33] <planB> i installed it now cuz i'm taking system progrmaming and we got cross-platform/networking assignments
[02:34] <planB> so instead of living in the labs i can do it at home
[02:34] <Fearan> Chris_in_the_uk: get more ram... 32mb is not enough. i have 320mb and it's relatively low
[02:34] <snorks> and this totemplayer shit
[02:34] <snorks> when WILL it work?
[02:34] <bla|patrick> re
[02:34] <bla|patrick> crap...
[02:34] <snorks> all included software should work out of the box
[02:34] <snorks> totemplayer doesnt
[02:34] <liable> Chris_in_the_uk: try dsl
[02:34] <Chris_in_the_uk> Fearan: Cheers, can you suggest a linux distro which will run with only 32 MB of ram?
[02:34] <bla|patrick> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_newer_8.19.x_drivers <--- it always ends up with "file not found"
[02:34] <bla|patrick> come on guys :(
[02:35] <Chris_in_the_uk> liable: what do you mean dsl?
[02:35] <jatos> yes ubuntu!
[02:35] <bla|patrick> i need specific help here
[02:35] <Fearan> Chris_in_the_uk:... i can't help you there...
[02:35] <liable> !dsl
[02:35] <ubotu> well, pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[02:35] <Chris_in_the_uk> Fearan,: cheers anyway
[02:35] <liable> meh
[02:35] <Chris_in_the_uk> ok
[02:35] <bla|patrick> botlinks were a deadend for me :(
[02:35] <tito> Can anyone tell me how to get mp3 cause that all I have
[02:35] <jatos> I running on a lappy now with 166mhz/32mb ram
[02:35] <liable> Chris_in_the_uk: damn small linux
[02:35] <Fearan> liable: dsl won't help with memory problems
[02:35] <Chris_in_the_uk> jatos: how did you get that running
[02:35] <Fearan> liable: oh that dsl... silly me
[02:35] <[nige] > probably no x enviro ?
[02:35] <Chris_in_the_uk> liable: sorry, i thought you were taking about the interweb connection
[02:35] <[nige] > or xfce ?
[02:36] <Chris_in_the_uk> jatos: how did you get ubuntu running on 32MB?
[02:36] <jatos> simple, I put my HD on USB lappy hd caddy...
[02:36] <jatos> installed linux on it then put back in lappy
[02:36] <jatos> I did a server install not a full install
[02:37] <banbran> hi
[02:37] <jatos> when I can the network to work I going to add XFCE to it
[02:37] <Zambba> jatos: Are you using XFCE or other more lightweight WM/DE?
[02:37] <Zambba> ok
[02:37] <bla|patrick> HEEEELP???
[02:37] <bla|patrick> :(
[02:37] <jatos> actually I gonig to try KDE
[02:37] <bla|patrick> nobody who has an idea how to help a ati user that needs to use the latest drivers?
[02:37] <jatos> see if it can handle, I think it will be able to with the swap
[02:37] <Chris_in_the_uk> jatos: is it the install process which requires the most ram?
[02:38] <jatos> yeah think so
[02:38] <jatos> that computer isued for the install had 256mb ram
[02:38] <WildZeck> bla|patrick, use a geforce instead
[02:38] <liable> Chris_in_the_uk: the kernel mostly is a limiting factor, and i believe 2.6 may be bigger than 34 when uncompressed.
[02:39] <Chris_in_the_uk> liable: cheers for the help
[02:39] <Chris_in_the_uk> i'll just go murder another system and go steal some ram
[02:39] <WildZeck> bla|patrick, what is the problem ?
[02:39] <bla|patrick> haha... i almost laughed...
[02:40] <liable> Chris_in_the_uk: but any kind a graphical environment will suck on 34MB.
[02:40] <tito> Can anyone help me get mp3 codecs?
[02:40] <bla|patrick> WildZeck, made a freshiinstall of breezy
[02:40] <bla|patrick> now i am trying to install the latestes ati driver
[02:40] <bla|patrick> but any tutorial i find fials
[02:40] <snorks> What do I for example do if I download some .deb file, and I have no idea how to operate it, and there is no install howto? What is a .deb file (other than meaning something with debian). What do I do with it? Stare on it till it deletes itself or what do.i.do.
[02:40] <Chris_in_the_uk> liable: any idea how to find out the max capacity and type of ram my pc takes?
[02:40] <Chris_in_the_uk> it's an old dell box, i'm imagining i'll have to look up the motherboard
[02:40] <bla|patrick> ends up into creating temporay folders whcih gonna be deleted after that process
[02:40] <bla|patrick> hence no files for the next step get found
[02:40] <bla|patrick> this is annoying
[02:40] <WildZeck> Chris_in_the_uk, use mem36test
[02:40] <Hex1> excuse me, does anyone know how to set up a Czech programmers keyboard on Breezy?
[02:41] <WildZeck> bla|patrick, are you root ?
[02:41] <antipode> hi, what does one do when you install the driver successfully
[02:41] <Chris_in_the_uk> WildZeck: where can i find that/how do ii use it?
[02:41] <antipode> do i need to download wireless software too?
[02:41] <bla|patrick> WildZeck, doing this with sudo
[02:41] <gcj> hi all, anyone compiling or developing wxwidgets apps on ubuntu?
[02:41] <antipode> i have just successfully installed ipw2200 - for intel wireless
[02:41] <antipode> and now i need to activate the wireless
[02:41] <liable> Chris_in_the_uk: no, sorry. google the mobo.
[02:42] <WildZeck> bla|patrick, sudo su , and after make all think without sudo
[02:42] <gcj> antipode: have you tried NetworkManager?
[02:42] <antipode> ohh is that in default?
[02:42] <antipode> gcj, thks
[02:42] <Chris_in_the_uk> liable: will do
[02:43] <WildZeck> Chris_in_the_uk, sudo apt-get install memtest86+
[02:43] <snorks> What do I do with a .deb file?
[02:44] <snorks> cedega_5.0_i386.deb to be exact
[02:44] <k31th> snorks: install it ?
[02:44] <antipode> gcj, ah i see it
[02:44] <antipode> thks
[02:44] <k31th> dpkg -i package.deb
[02:44] <snorks> k31th: How?
[02:44] <snorks> Ok
[02:44] <k31th> iirc
[02:44] <snorks> Thanks for that. Is there any important place I need to put it?
[02:44] <k31th> man dpkg
[02:44] <k31th> the package will isntall to the correct place
[02:45] <bla|patrick> WildZeck, have u watched the tutorial
[02:45] <bla|patrick> i posted the link here
[02:46] <snorks> k31th: Thanks. It even put it in gnome-panel :-)
[02:47] <k31th> snorks: yup
[02:47] <k31th> np
[02:47] <jatos_> hello again
[02:48] <jatos_> btw I have decided I love VLC as it plays mp3's
[02:48] <k31th> jatos_: i use vlc all the time
[02:48] <k31th> even in windows
[02:48] <bla|patrick> WildZeck, ok ur ignoring querys :(
[02:48] <jatos> can't blame you
[02:49] <Zambba> bla|patrick: well, in Freenode you must have registered your nick to send queries / pm:s
[02:49] <WildZeck> bla|patrick, nope
[02:50] <WildZeck> lol
[02:50] <Nihil85> hi! i'm searching for a software with full compatibility of all the Adobe Photoshop formats. can anyone give me the name of a program such this?
[02:50] <vbgunz> anybody know of an application that will remember and reposition, resize windows layouts?
[02:50] <liable> !dsl is also damn small linux
[02:50] <ubotu> okay, liable
[02:50] <WildZeck> Nihil85, gimp ?*
[02:50] <bla|patrick> Zambba, lost my password
[02:50] <Nihil85> WildZeck, gimp doesn't recognize some psd formats
[02:50] <jatos> or
[02:50] <jatos> ignore that...
[02:51] <ltf_> where can i find gstreamer-musepack plugin for hoary?
[02:51] <bla|patrick> so... what shall i do now
[02:51] <WildZeck> Nihil85, arg
[02:51] <bla|patrick> those fglrx drivers in the repos dont help me
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> ltf, there is only one place ... isn't it?
[02:51] <bla|patrick> those drivers of ati fail to install
[02:52] <bla|patrick> and anything i get here are dump jokes about buying another graphiccard or dump bots which are referring to old tutorials
[02:52] <bla|patrick> now i found a tutorial but it ends up in creating a temp folder
[02:52] <WildZeck> Nihil85, imagemagik to convert them ?
[02:52] <bla|patrick> and deleting the folder and the files after that step
[02:53] <bla|patrick> and nothing happens :(
[02:53] <bla|patrick> this is annoying
[02:53] <voth> how difficult would it be to setup/configure access to a windows partition (technically it's a whole other drive in the machine), would I limited to read access only since it's a NTFS formatted drive?
[02:53] <WildZeck> does ati provide an installer ?
[02:53] <bla|patrick> ya
[02:53] <Nihil85> WildZeck, i will try this to convert the images, but the problem is that i need the image's levels
[02:53] <bla|patrick> WildZeck, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_newer_8.19.x_drivers
[02:53] <bla|patrick> i dl it
[02:54] <bla|patrick> 1. general step worked
[02:54] <bla|patrick> 2. fails
[02:54] <Hoxzer> Be abused :)
[02:54] <xx94> can someone PLEASE ftp or send me their /etc/apt/ or tell me how to reinstall it
[02:54] <bla|patrick> Generating package: Ubuntu/breezy
[02:54] <bla|patrick> /tmp/fglrx ~/fglrx-install
[02:54] <bla|patrick> ~/fglrx-install
[02:54] <bla|patrick> Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install
[02:54] <jatos> xx94, gimmee a mome
[02:54] <WildZeck> dpkg-reconfigure apt
[02:54] <k31th> xx94: just make a file and put the sources in there
[02:55] <bla|patrick> thats what the terminal says
[02:55] <k31th> hang on ill stick mine on a http so u can wget it
[02:55] <xx94> well i fixed the sources list but it stilll has problems,...
[02:55] <bla|patrick> i have no idea what i could do now
[02:56] <k31th> xxenon:  hang on a sec ill help you
[02:56] <bla|patrick> and i am tired to ask this same crap for almost 2hours now :(
[02:56] <xx94> and ive read a couple manuals
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> !sources
[02:57] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:57] <WildZeck> bla|patrick, what step are you ?
[02:57] <xx94> !apt
[02:57] <ubotu> methinks apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[02:58] <WildZeck> bla|patrick, did you dl all package
[02:58] <jatos> btw, I got a laptop here, and ubuntu won't see anything thats in its pcmcia connector
[02:58] <k31th> xx94: go to /etc/apt/
[02:58] <jatos> and pcmcia does work on this I know that much
[02:58] <xx94> i am
[02:58] <k31th> del sources.list
[02:58] <k31th> xx94: then type wget http://thehacked.org/sources.list
[02:58] <RehanSAlvi> do the ubuntu download servers support resume?
[02:58] <k31th> then do a apt-get update
[02:58] <k31th> as root or sudo
[02:58] <bla|patrick> WildZeck, sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.19.10-i386.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/breezy
[02:59] <bla|patrick> i downloaded from ati.com
[03:00] <bla|patrick> ati-driver-installer-8.19.10-i386.run
[03:00] <xx94> in root, right
[03:00] <k31th> yes
[03:00] <k31th> wat do u mean your in root ?
[03:00] <k31th> i mean u need to have root priv
[03:01] <boabsta> is there a CS server package for ubuntu anyone?
[03:01] <k31th> not sure?
[03:01] <k31th> apt-cache search
[03:01] <xx94> corry
[03:01] <bla|patrick> WildZeck, so u have idea either :(
[03:01] <boabsta> thanks
[03:01] <bla|patrick> google doesnt help
[03:01] <xx94> k3ith can u repeat that
[03:02] <bla|patrick> ubuntu wikis are outdated
[03:02] <bla|patrick> crap :(
[03:02] <RehanSAlvi> do the ubuntu download servers support file resume on broken downloads?
[03:02] <bla|patrick> *no idea
[03:02] <xx94> !log
[03:02] <ubotu> xx94: Are you on ritalin?
[03:03] <xx94> !yes
[03:03] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, xx94?
[03:03] <WildZeck> bla|patrick, do you  Remove existing fglrx driver step before ?
[03:03] <bla|patrick> WildZeck, i did
[03:03] <bla|patrick> worked fine
[03:03] <xx94> !your momma
[03:03] <ubotu> xx94: What?
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> xx94, pls don't play with the bot
[03:03] <bla|patrick> driver, cp, modules
[03:03] <johan_> Anyone got Wireless Lan on Aetheros chipset working with WEP on Ubuntu 5.10?
[03:04] <xx94> but he insulted me
[03:04] <xx94> lol
[03:04] <bla|patrick> as explained in the tuorial
[03:04] <dylan_> is there a way that i can adjust printing speed
[03:04] <mrverbose> does ubuntu' pppd have mppe/mppc support compiled in by default?
[03:04] <snorks> k31th: Seems things are working
[03:04] <k31th> kool
[03:04] <xx94> what was that site that i have to wget from
[03:05] <WildZeck> bla|patrick,
[03:05] <WildZeck>     * he rpm utility should be installed and configured correctly on your system
[03:05] <WildZeck>     * QT version 2.x.x is needed for the ATI Control Panel, but is not mandatory
[03:05] <WildZeck> 			Note: 	
[03:05] <bla|patrick> ???
[03:06] <nalioth> bla|patrick: he'll be back.
[03:06] <xx94> got to eat
[03:06] <bla|patrick> kk
[03:06] <bla|patrick> hi nalioth :D
[03:06] <ninjadoug> HiddenFly, has anyone had experiance of migrating a windows thunderbird mailbox to linux evolution (or other good linux mail program)? Is it do-able?
[03:07] <ninjadoug> Hi , has anyone had experiance of migrating a windows thunderbird mailbox to linux evolution (or other good linux mail program)? Is it do-able?
[03:07] <nalioth> bla|patrick: howdy
[03:07] <ninjadoug> hiddenfly that was not to you (autocomplete)
[03:07] <BockBilbo> can you guys listen to sound in flash movies in firefox?
[03:07] <nalioth> ninjadoug: they are all just text files, it should be doable
[03:07] <nalioth> ninjadoug: and please check your enter key, it seems to stick
[03:08] <bla|patrick> meanwhile i install kde
[03:08] <bla|patrick> brb
[03:08] <bla|patrick> in 10min i'll be back
[03:10] <k31th> xx94: http://thehacked.org/sources.list
[03:10] <k31th> its my file on my http
[03:10] <zzyber> Hi! I want to limit bandwith for connection made to my server, can you give me a tip where i can find an easy to use software/gui for this?
[03:10] <dducko> !tell BockBilbo about flash
[03:10] <k31th> zzyber: wat service ?
[03:11] <dducko> BockBilbo, at the end of the install there is a sym link to make, should fix sound
[03:11] <zzyber> k31th, i want to limit banwith usage for people downloading from my server
[03:11] <k31th> zzyber:  ftp ?
[03:11] <k31th> zzyber:   i know proftpd has a caping faciliy
[03:11] <zzyber> k31th, hmm thru direct connect (TCP)?
[03:12] <k31th> zzyber: ahhh
[03:12] <k31th> have you considered traffic shaping ?
[03:12] <zzyber> k31th, exaclty
[03:12] <zzyber> k31th, do you know any good software?
[03:14] <sweener> does anyone know of a mp3 countdown timer for ubuntu?
[03:16] <k31th> zzyber:  you could look at http://www.shorewall.net/traffic_shaping.htm
[03:17] <emurz> Do you guys prefer gnome over kde?
[03:17] <zzyber> k31th, thanks, i saw that one in dpkg database, i will take a look
[03:17] <Lk2> something here with amd64?
[03:17] <nalioth> emurz: use them both, use xubuntu, too and see which one YOU like
[03:17] <Mabus06> When I type in my windows login information when trying to connect to my network, it says my password is incorrect. This is not true, so what else could be the problem? Does anyone have any ideas beside ubotu telling me about samba?
[03:18] <Mabus06> Could it have something to do with my wireless router, maybe?
[03:18] <afk|patrick|10mi> re
[03:18] <Lk2> something here with amd64?
[03:19] <emurz> nalioth, which one do you yourself use?
[03:19] <Goshawk> Lk2, here
[03:19] <nalioth> emurz: i use gnome to hold several terminals
[03:20] <Goshawk> Lk2, ubuntu 5.10 amd64 here to server you :D
[03:20] <nalioth> emurz: iow, i dont pay much attention to DEs, i run mostly terminal apps
[03:20] <emurz> which one would you recommend for a desktop user?
[03:20] <emurz> not for servers
[03:20] <Lk2> ggGoshawk, you have a private :P
[03:20] <snorks> emurz: ubuntu
[03:21] <Goshawk> what?
[03:21] <emurz> snorks, I'm talking about interfaces, KDE/Gnome
[03:21] <zzyber> is ubuntu 5.10 mutch slower than 5.04?
[03:21] <threeseas> hello
[03:21] <nalioth> emurz: ubuntu is fine. i personally have kubuntu and xubuntu installed as well as ubuntu
[03:22] <nalioth> zzyber: yes, it was designed to be much much slower :0
[03:22] <Goshawk> zzyber, slower? na..
[03:22] <threeseas> I need to set the environment path to include a few directories but I can't remember how to do it
[03:22] <BockBilbo> dducko, thanks, though that doesnt really help me
[03:22] <emurz> nalioth, gnome is the default interface when first installing unbuntu?
[03:22] <nalioth> emurz: it is, yes.
[03:22] <BockBilbo> can you heard the sound on ff
[03:22] <k31th> zzyber:  no probs
[03:23] <dylan_> is there a way i can adjust my printer's printing speed
[03:23] <Lk2> Goshawk can you read me in private?
[03:23] <nalioth> Lk2: you cannot sent priv msgs unless you are registered
[03:23] <zzyber> i have used ubuntu since it came out. Now i tried to use windows again but after 2 days i gave up, i need windows for economics. Now i have installed ubuntu 5.10 and it seems like it is mutch slower than 5.04, it cant be imagination
[03:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Lk2 about register
[03:24] <Lk2> wow, how can i get registered?
[03:24] <nalioth> Lk2: read what ubotu sent you
[03:24] <Lk2> thanks nalioth
[03:24] <Lk2> :P
[03:24] <alie> hi i am tyring to configure xwine
[03:24] <Lk2> thanks
[03:24] <alie> any help would be welcome
[03:24] <alie> i am new to wine and windows configuration files
[03:24] <bla|patrick> nalioth, do u think wildzeck will come back?
[03:24] <alie> can anyone guide me how to configure my win2000 to wine
[03:24] <alie> so i can use win in linux
[03:25] <ADjuster> wine
[03:25] <alie> ADjuster, yes
[03:25] <ADjuster> use wine
[03:25] <alie> ADjuster, xwine is the graphical configuration and usage of wine
[03:25] <nalioth> bla|patrick: parlez vous franais? wildzeck is in these channels #linuxfr #linux-fr #debianfr #plugfr
[03:26] <Goshawk> zzyber, yep it's slow if you run X + totem (watching a dvd) + downloading a movie + listening music + compiling the kernel
[03:26] <ADjuster> anybody knows if there is a cakewalk in Linux???
[03:26] <ADjuster> a music notator given MIDI file
[03:26] <Mabus06> what's a very simple to use graphics editing program, similar to ms paint, but for ubuntu?
[03:27] <bla|patrick> nalioth, sorry... no skills with that
[03:27] <zzyber> Goshawk, yes, that exactly what im doing
[03:27] <bla|patrick> so i bugged him too much i guess
[03:27] <Goshawk> zzyber, :D
[03:27] <bla|patrick> nobody else who has an idea why that tutorial (mentioned earlier) doesnt work?
[03:27] <ken> anyone know how to change password for webmin or make the default password work
[03:27] <nalioth> bla|patrick: join him in one of those channels, if you need info from him
[03:28] <bla|patrick> nalioth, no... i wont bug him anylonger
[03:28] <jake37> Mabus06 - i think gnome has a paint program installed as default...or you can use Synaptic to install...i think gpaint is name...
[03:28] <zzyber> Goshawk, seriously my java uses 425Mb memory when using azureus??? Cant remember 5.04 to do that?
[03:29] <ken> i tried sudo passwrd says command does'nt exist
[03:29] <nalioth> zzyber: java sucks, use bittornado-gui
[03:29] <ngd_> hey guys, is there a way to a do net install with ubuntu if a certain step is failing from something on the cd?
[03:29] <CosmoDad> can I define new events for key combinations somehow? Would like to lock my session via key-combo..
[03:29] <zzyber> nalioth, bittornado-gui is a pain, i never understod it. Do u use it?
[03:29] <nalioth> ngd_: check your cd for correctness
[03:29] <Goshawk> zzyber, this is a problem of java, (the language or the program) not ubuntu
[03:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ngd_ about verify
[03:30] <blackhat> when I try to run this program it gives me an error saying ./libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, but its located in /usr/lib, how can I export this?
[03:30] <geargolem> I'm having trouble getting python to work with blender in breezy
[03:30] <ken> it should be under applications graphics gimp default graphics editor
[03:30] <zzyber> My evolution uses 179MiB, is that okey?
[03:30] <nalioth> zzyber: i do use it, sometimes. i usually use the console for my torrents
[03:30] <eXistenZ> what do most of the ubuntu users prefer KDE or Gnome?
[03:30] <ngd_> nalioth: yeah I've done the md5 checks on the disc
[03:31] <ngd_> nalioth: this is my second burn at slowest possible speed
[03:31] <zzyber> nalioth, hmm, maybe i will try something else also byt azureus is nice. To bad it uses java
[03:31] <nalioth> ngd_: how old is the cd drive?
[03:31] <nickrud> CosmoDad, open gconf-editor, and under /apps/metacity/global_keybindings and keybing_commands. Go wild :)
[03:31] <nalioth> zzyber: i normally use cli bittorrent (the curses client) with 'gnu screen'
[03:31] <CosmoDad> nickrud: thx!
[03:31] <ken> use deepburner to burn linux iso image files works best
[03:31] <ngd_> nalioth: the drive the wrote the disc very new powerbook, drive reading the disc is pretty old
[03:31] <nalioth> zzyber: my method uses very little system resources
[03:31] <blackhat> when I try to exec a program it says cannot load shared libraries ./libSDL-1.2.so.0 cannot open shared object file no such file or directory (but its located in /usr/lib) how can I tell it that?
[03:32] <nalioth> ngd_: perhaps another drive could be used to check ?
[03:32] <nickrud> CosmoDad, it shows 12 slots; you can add more
[03:32] <ngd_> nalioth: do you mean burning with another drive? or using a different drive to read?
[03:33] <nalioth> ngd_: different drive to read
[03:33] <ngd_> nalioth: yeah, I might try doing that when I have some more free time. I was hoping there might be a simpler solution
[03:33] <nalioth> blackhat: install some more sdl libs
[03:33] <ngd_> nalioth:
[03:33] <ngd_> nalioth: thanks for ypur help
[03:34] <nalioth> ngd_: np, be safe
[03:34] <Goshawk> people, here is a problem with locales http://pastebin.ca/28458
[03:35] <ken> anyone know how to redo passwrd for webmin i decided to give linux a chance but man it sucks miss my windows now i got a wait on cds to get my system back
[03:35] <dreumah> i am trying to play a wmv file and none of my players seem to have the right codec installed any help?
[03:35] <zzyber> does someone from sweden uses spcs on linux wine or cxoffice?
[03:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dreumah about w32codecs
[03:36] <blackhat> nalioth; how? I've installed them.
[03:36] <nalioth> dreumah: wmv9 is most likely not to play well with linux or wmv10
[03:36] <eXistenZ> what is the default password of root once ubuntu is installed?
[03:36] <eXistenZ> The installation didn't ask me to choose a root pass
[03:37] <ken> lol ubuntu is the best
[03:37] <nalioth> eXistenZ: there is no root
[03:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell eXistenZ about root
[03:37] <dducko> !tell eXistenZ about root
[03:38] <ken> if it did'nt ask you'll have to re-install
[03:38] <ken> i'm having same problem only got root password working
[03:38] <nalioth> ken: what exactly are you wanting to do with a root pass?
[03:39] <eXistenZ> ken, he says there is no root, why shall I re-do my installation?
[03:39] <ken> now can't get webmin password to work
[03:39] <dducko> Ubuntu doesnt have root by default for a very good reason, and sudo works well.
[03:39] <nalioth> eXistenZ: ken is messing with your mind
[03:39] <BooZee> can sombody please help me with firewire??
[03:40] <ken> i installed webmin again it worked 1st install using root as username and password
[03:40] <nalioth> BooZee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EthernetOverFirewire
[03:40] <nalioth> ken: you've probably confused your webmin. there is no root account (unless you made one)
[03:40] <eXistenZ> nalioth, now I mounted one of my ntfs drivers, but I cannot have an access to it through my user, it says I have no permissions.
[03:41] <eXistenZ> I mounted it inside /mnt/windows
[03:41] <ken> i needed perl, apache, mysql after install the root password won't log in now
[03:41] <BooZee> nalioth: i've been there - I got nothing to do with that information - I have no idea about compiling a kernel (!@?)
[03:42] <nalioth> BooZee: apologies, i've never been to that page. but you'll need a f/w capable kernel
[03:42] <ken> on 1st install i noticed it installed webmin in root directory
[03:42] <dducko> eXistenZ, Use sudo to navigate it.
[03:42] <BooZee> nalioth:  and ubuntu is a f/w capable kernel?
[03:42] <dducko> eXistenZ, or if you want to use nautilus to navigate it. sudo nautilus
[03:42] <ken> 4th install it installed webmin in /etc/webmin
[03:43] <blackhat> when I try to run this program it gives me an error saying ./libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, but its located in /usr/lib, how can I export this?
[03:43] <trappist> ken: do you have a question?
[03:43] <ken> how do you log in since its no longer in root directory
[03:43] <BooZee> does ubuntu has a f/w capable kernel?
[03:44] <trappist> ken: ubuntu installs with a random root password.  mostly you don't log in.
[03:44] <eXistenZ> nalioth, why are there no repositories inside the package manager? is there any address to add?
[03:44] <nalioth> BooZee: if you compile a firewire enabled kernel, yes
[03:44] <ruspu> I'm sorry I don't remember what was the addres for source.list. I'm using http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu. Now I figured how to change it but I don't remember the address
[03:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell eXistenZ about repos
[03:44] <ken> i had to log in before using root as username then my chosen login password
[03:45] <trappist> ken: you have webmin listinging on your public interface.  I don't feel right helping you gain root access to it.
[03:45] <trappist> *listening
[03:45] <eXistenZ> nalioth, and what is the restricted section?
[03:46] <nalioth> eXistenZ: what do you mean?
[03:46] <ken> why's that
[03:46] <eXistenZ> nalioth, breezy is like stable in debian?
[03:46] <trappist> I don't think we have an analog to debian's stable
[03:46] <Hoxzer> do you guys know any software that can tight together .jpg pictures with simple command?
[03:46] <nalioth> eXistenZ: correct. it is stable (we do not have stable/unstable/testing  like debian, tho)
[03:46] <trappist> Hoxzer: tight together?
[03:46] <abusado> ei where can i find the root console in breezy?
[03:47] <ken> i tried opening the miniserv.users file and several other files in webmin to see the password if not encrytped but it won't let me even on my own pc
[03:47] <Hoxzer> Trappist: you know make one file from many files
[03:47] <trappist> abusado: sudo su -
[03:47] <Hoxzer> one picture from many picturers
[03:47] <trappist> haich: imagemagick
[03:47] <trappist> err
[03:47] <trappist> Hoxzer: imagemagick
[03:47] <nalioth> abusado: there is no root account in ubuntu by default, use 'sudo -i' in a regular terminal
[03:47] <BooZee> how can I compile a firewire enabled kernel ?
[03:48] <nalioth> trappist: please dont recommand that
[03:48] <trappist> nalioth: may I ask why not?
[03:48] <Red-Sox> hi
[03:48] <nalioth> trappist: because ubuntu has no root account for a reason
[03:48] <abusado> aw what i mean is where can i run a terminal? i cant find a link
[03:48] <Yulia> i have just installed ubuntu and change dhcp into static. But now i cant get others pcs in the lan but not router. can anybody help me???
[03:49] <Red-Sox> how do you tell how much ram you have in ubuntu?
[03:49] <nalioth> trappist: and it's redundant
[03:49] <nalioth> abusado: applications > accessories > terminal
[03:49] <Red-Sox> anyone?
[03:49] <trappist> Red-Sox: free
[03:49] <jenda> Can synaptic sort or filter by repo?
[03:49] <Red-Sox> trappist: I dont understand
[03:49] <Hoxzer> Trappist: could you tell me the command the files are named like 0000??.jpg
[03:49] <trappist> Red-Sox: say `free` in a console
[03:49] <nalioth> jenda: somewhat, yes
[03:49] <eXistenZ> nalioth, do you recommend me installing kde or keeping gnome?
[03:49] <Red-Sox> okay
[03:50] <nalioth> eXistenZ: do you have prior experience with either?
[03:50] <trappist> Hoxzer: it depends on what specific results you want, and even then I'd have to hit the man page, which I'll let you do
[03:50] <trappist> eXistenZ: try each of them for a week
[03:50] <eXistenZ> nalioth, I tried both actually, much more kde.
[03:50] <jenda> nalioth: I added backports and extras and would like to have a browse...
[03:51] <Yulia> i have just installed ubuntu and change dhcp into static. But now i cant get others pcs in the lan but not router. Using dhcp there is no problem. All linux from the lan use static. Any help??
[03:51] <nalioth> eXistenZ: go with what you know, it doesnt hurt a thing to have xubuntu, kubunut and ubuntu all installed at the same time
[03:51] <simprix> Is anyone else having problems with apt-get update and gpg errors
[03:51] <Hoxzer> Trappist: just tell me command that will show me help
[03:51] <eXistenZ> what is xubuntu? and ubuntu?
[03:51] <Hoxzer> cause imagemagick doesn't work
[03:51] <eXistenZ> both interfaces?
[03:51] <trappist> Hoxzer: man montage
[03:51] <nalioth> jenda: breezy backports do not exist yet, you can browse by universe and multiverse, iirc
[03:51] <Hoxzer> Trappist: :D
[03:51] <trappist> Hoxzer: if there's no man page, sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[03:52] <Hoxzer> thx then I have commadn already
[03:52] <nalioth> eXistenZ: obviously you can only use one at a time
[03:52] <simprix> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:52] <simprix> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell simprix about gpgerr
[03:52] <LjL> nalioth: didn't breezy backports just open yesterday?!
[03:52] <ptlo> nalioth, so the topic is wrong? (the topic says the breezy backports are available)
[03:52] <jenda> nalioth: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88153&page=6
[03:52] <Hoxzer> lets see
[03:52] <nalioth> wow i'm so lost
[03:52] <nalioth> sorry folks
[03:52] <nalioth> whatever the /topic says
[03:52] <LjL> nalioth: ;-)
[03:53] <LjL> nalioth: anyway, yesterday the backports repository was empty, so it doesn't really make much difference i guess
[03:53] <Hoxzer> Trappist: works
[03:53] <trappist> Hoxzer: awesome
[03:53] <LjL> nalioth: but the forum for suggestions about things to backports is up and running
[03:53] <Lk2_> Goshawk can yor read my privates?
[03:53] <simprix> thanks nalioth
[03:54] <nalioth> LjL: and i'm sure oOo2 is on the list along with enlightenment dr17
[03:54] <Zambba> Is there aMSN's cvs version available as a .deb ?
[03:54] <frogzoo> any hints to improve speed of DVD playback? is there a better player than gxine ?
[03:54] <jenda> So, can synaptic sort it?
[03:54] <jenda> frogzoo: DMA on?
[03:54] <nalioth> Zambba: cvs is usually source code. you can build it yourself or use gaim
[03:54] <trappist> frogzoo: if you're having trouble with it, try sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdX where hdX is your dvd device
[03:54] <frogzoo> jenda: dunno, I'll check
[03:54] <Zambba> I have built one but my one n00b friend..
[03:55] <LjL> nalioth: well, myself i've posted my little request for Qalculate-KDE
[03:55] <Yulia> ubuntu can work over static ips??
[03:55] <nalioth> jenda: iirc, synaptic does sort between uni and multi (i dont use b/p so dont know about that)
[03:55] <threeseas> using breezy 5.10 I sometimes notice that the screen/monitor won't come back up after a long period of inactivity
[03:55] <trappist> Yulia: of course
[03:55] <Yulia> trappist, i have just installed ubuntu and change dhcp into static. But now i cant get others pcs in the lan but not router. Using dhcp there is no problem. All linux from the lan use static. Any help??
[03:55] <jenda> nalioth: it doesn't seem to anyway... oh well
[03:55] <LjL> threeseas?
[03:55] <LjL> omg timothy rue
[03:55] <LjL> :)
[03:55] <nalioth> jenda: as LjL points out, bp is empty atm, so there's nothing to sort
[03:55] <trappist> Yulia: have you tried using ip addresses?  I'm guessing you're just not resolving the names
[03:56] <jenda> Not what I heard
[03:56] <[1] codenut> After installing 5.10 I had no monitor activity at all, what's with that?
[03:56] <Yulia> Yulia, i am trying it with ip
[03:56] <[1] codenut> I am back to Hoary.
[03:56] <threeseas> LjL: and who are you?
[03:56] <trappist> Yulia: route -n | grep ^0
[03:56] <ken> linux sucks ur on ur own go back to windows thiers tons of support
[03:56] <threeseas> :)
[03:57] <trappist> ken: have fun
[03:57] <LjL> threeseas: Lorenzo Lucchini, but i don't think you really know me
[03:57] <[1] codenut> Yep, I am whining.
[03:57] <Yulia> trappist, it is all ok.
[03:57] <jenda> trappist: that was a nice guy [ken] ...
[03:57] <LjL> threeseas: i've just been lurking Amiga newsgroups and forums for a long while
[03:57] <trappist> Yulia: by ok you mean like the other boxes on the network?
[03:57] <threeseas> LjL: Lorenzo seems familiar but not the last name
[03:57] <viller> wtf, what are these sounds all the time in ubuntu if i don't do anything that should play sounds
[03:57] <Yulia> trappist, what i do not underestand is that i cant get others pc in the lan
[03:57] <viller> ?
[03:57] <eXistenZ> nalioth, why ubuntu does not support mp3 in default?
[03:57] <threeseas> Ah
[03:58] <Goshawk_> eXistenZ, for licence issues
[03:58] <trappist> Yulia: what's your ip address, and what's an ip address of another box on the lan?
[03:58] <LjL> threeseas: i've also begun joining #aros again lately, though i'm not in it right now
[03:58] <thomas_> question. i've got this problem installing multiverse/universe
[03:58] <blackhat> Anyone here play UT2004
[03:58] <lsuactiafner> inttypes.h or bitypes.h ring a bell with anyone? compiling mplayer.. might be a problem with gcc
[03:58] <Goshawk_> eXistenZ, mp3 is a proprietary format, ogg not, so you have full default support for ogg and not for mp3
[03:58] <trappist> eXistenZ: the mp3 codec is propritary
[03:58] <jenda> eXistenZ: it's a proprietary driver - they would have to pay for it...
[03:58] <Yulia> trappist, mine is 192.168.1.2. router: 192.168.1.1 and pc1 192.168.1.3
[03:58] <lsuactiafner> blackhat : yeh
[03:58] <lsuactiafner> it works in linux..
[03:59] <trappist> proprietary
[03:59] <jenda> eXistenZ: *codec
[03:59] <blackhat> Yeah well I cant get it to work
[03:59] <blackhat> I get this error.
[03:59] <blackhat> ./ut2004-bin: error while loading shared libraries: ./libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:59] <nalioth> eXistenZ: ubuntu is a truly 'free' distro. it ships with nothing patented or otw legally encumbered
[03:59] <trappist> blackhat: sudo ldconfig
[03:59] <lsuactiafner> blackhat : amd64?
[03:59] <threeseas> LjL: ok, I think I moght remember you from the newgroups --- rarely ever posted,
[03:59] <blackhat> yea
[03:59] <LjL> nalioth: how can you be sure? ;-(
[03:59] <frogzoo> trappist: jenda - worked nicely thx
[03:59] <blackhat> i tried ldconfig and than ran it and I got the same error.
[03:59] <Red-Sox> blackhat: what window manager are you running?
[03:59] <blackhat> gnome
[03:59] <nalioth> LjL: sure about what?
[04:00] <Red-Sox> blackhat: sorry, beyond me
[04:00] <jenda> frogzoo: no prob - I love it when it's simple...
[04:00] <blackhat> The file exists though, libSDL-1.2.so.0 exists in /usr/lib
[04:00] <LjL> nalioth: that there's nothing patented in Ubuntu... unfortunately, saying that it's "hard to be sure" is an understatement!
[04:00] <blackhat> I just don't think it can see it.
[04:00] <LjL> threeseas: are you an AROS developer now?
[04:00] <Mabus06> how do you copy an image in firefox? :S
[04:00] <trappist> frogzoo: ls -l /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0
[04:00] <eXistenZ> nalioth, looks gnome is much more used than kde, I wonder why =/
[04:01] <jenda> Mabus06: right click... copy, no?
[04:01] <LjL> eXistenZ: cause it's installed by default? ;)
[04:01] <trappist> eXistenZ: in here it is
[04:01] <PJeremy> does anyone here use Opera 8.5?
[04:01] <blackhat> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 19 2005-11-11 10:41 /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 -> libSDL-1.2.so.0.7.1
[04:01] <trappist> eXistenZ: in #kubuntu you'll see something else
[04:01] <thomas_> I add the multiverse/universe, and i get this error.. W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com
[04:01] <Mabus06> jenda, copy image location.. but the image is .php, it' generated so you can't directly go to it either.
[04:01] <trappist> !tell thomas_ about gpgerr
[04:01] <[1] codenut> brb
[04:01] <threeseas> LjL: no, but I'm probably the top individual financial sponsor -- see "about AROS" in aros
[04:01] <frogzoo> trappist:  /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 -> libSDL-1.2.so.0.7.1
[04:01] <blackhat> Anyone here help me?
[04:01] <trappist> frogzoo: file /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.7.1
[04:01] <Mabus06> But on ie I used to be able to right click, copy.
[04:02] <jenda> Mabus06:hmm... I don't know. A screenshot will work as an emergency
[04:02] <threeseas> LjL: I might be the top sponsor all around but they list corporate first
[04:02] <blackhat> /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.7.1: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
[04:02] <frogzoo> trappist: /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.7.1: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
[04:02] <blackhat> frogzoo, i think we have the same problem.
[04:02] <LjL> threeseas: oh, well, then thank you!
[04:03] <trappist> frogzoo: try ln -s /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 && ./ut2004
[04:03] <Red-Sox> is there a good snes emulator thet does not need diskets?
[04:03] <viller> why is this fucking ubuntu playing all these sounds while i'm doing nothing that should play sounds!!!!!
[04:03] <viller> ??????
[04:03] <blackhat> ln -s /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 && ut2004
[04:03] <blackhat> ln: `./libSDL-1.2.so.0': File exists
[04:03] <Red-Sox> viller: there are 12 year olds heat
[04:03] <Red-Sox> hear*
[04:03] <blackhat> trappist, i think i am having the same problem as him
[04:04] <trappist> uh this is weird
[04:04] <misfit_toy> Red-Sox, "here"
[04:04] <LjL> threeseas: new to ubuntu?
[04:04] <misfit_toy> lol
[04:04] <Red-Sox> here* lol
[04:04] <threeseas> LjL: aros has dbus because of me and the dev who took the bounty on --- and because breezy is ... well I like it and it has dbus... I'm gonna try and compile aros so to play around with dbus between the two..
[04:04] <blackhat> I cant get ut2004 to run because it cannot find that file as well.
[04:04] <Red-Sox> misfit_toy: im sure u can tell im the 12 year old eh?
[04:04] <nalioth> LjL: ubuntu lawyers have looked over all the pkgs that ship by default
[04:04] <lsuactiafner> blackhat : just do what i said you should in private messages
[04:04] <misfit_toy> Red-Sox, LOL
[04:04] <trappist> blackhat: what directory are you in
[04:04] <Red-Sox> i am
[04:04] <lsuactiafner>  /usr/local/games/ut2004/System/libSDL-1.2.so.0: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
[04:04] <lsuactiafner> blackhat : does doom3 and q4 work?
[04:05] <SirKillalot> any way to convert a ntfs partition to fat32 without losing data?
[04:05] <threeseas> LjL: I first used Ubuntu at a Python bootcamp (week) recently -- it was on the machine I was using
[04:05] <Red-Sox> anyway....is there an emulator that doesnt envolve diskets?
[04:05] <RobertAU> my problem is that i installed the latest ipw drivers and got them set up and working, but when i turn on wpa_supplicant it starts to constantly switch between disconnected and idle (once a second)
[04:05] <Red-Sox> involve *
[04:06] <blackhat> lsuactiafner, i've never tried, but ldconfig doesn't work
[04:06] <LjL> nalioth: i suppose so... look i wasn't trying to imply anything bad about ubuntu, just that the current legal situation is a sorry state of affairs. even if your lawyers have looked all around, only a judge can decide if you get sued. but, i suppose this is off topic anyway
[04:06] <trappist> wait.  blackhat, frogzoo - either of you running a 64 bit ubuntu?
[04:06] <blackhat> I am running 64 bit ubuntu yes.
[04:06] <eXistenZ> nalioth, how can I delete gnome overally and install kubuntu?
[04:06] <nalioth> SirKillalot: if you go out and buy partition magic and have an equal amount of free space
[04:06] <lsuactiafner> trappist : he might need to copy a 32bit version of the file into ut2004 but he is ignoring me so yeh
[04:06] <trappist> blackhat: is your ut2004 64 bit?
[04:06] <blackhat> Yeah I downloaded the patch
[04:06] <nalioth> eXistenZ: no need to delete anything, just install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package
[04:06] <blackhat> and I copied all the directories over the current ones.
[04:06] <lsuactiafner> trappist : as i run ut2004 i should know.. but he doesnt want my help
[04:06] <trappist> blackhat: lsuactiafner sounds like he knows something
[04:06] <trappist> lsuactiafner: I know the feeling
[04:06] <mushtaq> hi i have a workgroup and i am trying to connect ubuntu5.10 with the winxp machine but every time when i try to open places->network server i get a dialog box asking for user and password i havent selected the machine to connect to nither i have any password to the groups how to remove this dialog or what else i can do to connect to my normal network (workgroup)
[04:07] <frogzoo> trappist: i386 here
[04:07] <lsuactiafner> so i'm fskcing off to go shower
[04:07] <Red-Sox> well....is there pr is there not?
[04:07] <eXistenZ> nalioth, then I'll have two interfaces right?
[04:07] <Red-Sox> or*
[04:07] <BooZee> hey nalioth, I found this site http://www.linux1394.org/ which gives a libraw1394 file. I should just follow the instructions there and compile a new kernel ??
[04:07] <frogzoo> !kubuntu
[04:07] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[04:07] <nalioth> eXistenZ: yes, choose from the login screen > sessions
[04:07] <BooZee> nalioth: or is it dagerous? i'm a newbie in linux...
[04:07] <lsuactiafner> and just for the sake of it, will play ut2004 before my shower.
[04:07] <blackhat> lsuactiafner, I've tried ldconfig and it didnt work
[04:07] <eXistenZ> nalioth, gnome just takes space from my hdd!
[04:08] <Aleks> Hi
[04:08] <nalioth> eXistenZ: not as much as you think
[04:08] <jenda> hi aleks
[04:08] <Aleks> Any who know how to play mp3 in ubuntu?
[04:08] <BockBilbo> bye
[04:08] <nalioth> BooZee: it says that if you use breezy, ieee1394 support is built into the kernel
[04:08] <mushtaq> hi i have a workgroup and i am trying to connect ubuntu5.10 with the winxp machine but every time when i try to open places->network server i get a dialog box asking for user and password i havent selected the machine to connect to nither i have any password to the groups how to remove this dialog or what else i can do to connect to my normal network (workgroup)
[04:08] <lsuactiafner> blackhat : but i told you to get a 32bit version of the file and to copy it into ut2004 and then to run ldconfig
[04:08] <BooZee> nalioth: then why can't i see my firewire ?
[04:08] <lsuactiafner> same problem with q4
[04:08] <blackhat> I've tried that lsuactiafner
[04:09] <blackhat> I went into /usr/lib and got a 32 bit version
[04:09] <blackhat> and I put it in /usr/local/games/ut2004demo
[04:09] <Aleks> What is the name of the RealVNC package in ubuntu???
[04:09] <blackhat> and ldconfig, and it still didnt work
[04:09] <eXistenZ> nalioth, what's the difference between the normal kde and kubuntu, aren't they quite the same?
[04:09] <nalioth> BooZee: perhaps you should ask uncle google a different question
[04:09] <dducko> Aleks, vncviewer
[04:09] <nalioth> eXistenZ: kubuntu is "kubuntu friendly" heh
[04:10] <Aleks> dducko, that's not the server...?
[04:10] <russ_> hello
[04:10] <dducko> Aleks, or if your after the server,
[04:10] <jenda> eXistenZ: kubuntu = KDE + ubuntu
[04:10] <vincent_> what solution has linux found for 
[04:10] <vincent_> 
[04:10] <vincent_> -letters??
[04:10] <dducko> Aleks, System>preferences> Remote Desktop
[04:10] <Aleks> dducko, i looking for the server..
[04:10] <LjL> vincent_: hmm= 
[04:10] <vincent_> you cannot make alt-combinations :-(
[04:10] <Aleks> ok
[04:10] <russ_> I'm looking for some help with my ubuntu install - I've just upgraded to a Intel 2200bg card and am having issues with ieee80211 and ipw2200
[04:10] <nalioth> vincent_: they look fine to me, what's the problem?
[04:11] <blackhat> lsuactiafner, I'm going to try Quake4 and see what I get.
[04:11] <vincent_> well I made them with copy-paste
[04:11] <LjL> vincent_: oh, dunno, i've got a swedish keyboard installed... but there are variants of most keyboard layouts, with or without modifiers
[04:11] <[1] codenut> thanks to all!!
[04:11] <vincent_> there should be a more advanced way
[04:11] <Aleks> dducko, that will let people remote control all desktops...
[04:11] <[1] codenut> bye
[04:11] <dducko> Aleks, Not sure, havent used it yet.
[04:11] <Aleks> dducko, do you know a version who let a user remote control only one?
[04:11] <Aleks> dducko, ok
[04:11] <vincent_> LjL?
[04:11] <eXistenZ> nalioth, is it possible to install kubuntu directly from installation?
[04:11] <russ_> Anyone know anything about WIFI cards?
[04:11] <eXistenZ> avoiding gnome
[04:12] <dducko> eXistenZ, get a Kubuntu ced
[04:12] <vincent_> LjL LjL LjL LjL LjL LjL !!!
[04:12] <nalioth> eXistenZ: yes, with a kubuntu cd
[04:12] <dducko> cd*
[04:12] <LjL> vincent?
[04:12] <Aleks> Any who know how to play MP3 files here...?
[04:12] <vincent_> LjL, is there no other way to make them,
[04:12] <vincent_> ?
[04:12] <dducko> !restricted
[04:12] <ubotu> [restricted]  I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:12] <dducko> Read that Aleks
[04:12] <Kmos> hi! how to fix the irssi problem with perl at ubuntu ? irssi-text package at archive isn't fixed yet..
[04:12] <mmiikkee12> is there a breezy net install?
[04:13] <blackhat> lsuactiafner, I just installed quake 4 and I still get the same error.
[04:13] <russ_> Anyone know anything about ipw2200?
[04:13] <cr> ey guys someone from austria here ?
[04:13] <vincent_> ok, I'll just use the cp-paste method from now on
[04:13] <blackhat> ./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:13] <LjL> vincent_: i think there are other ways
[04:13] <Kmos> blackhat: install SDL
[04:13] <blackhat> its installed
[04:13] <blackhat> the files exist.
[04:13] <LjL> vincent_: i'm just not sure how, 'cause it works perfectly here. i problably can give you some hints for KDE, but not for gnome
[04:14] <Kmos> blackhat: maybe quake4 doesn't like that path
[04:14] <Kmos> kmos@bash:~/irssi-0.8.9$ locate libSDL
[04:14] <Kmos> /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.7.1
[04:14] <Kmos> /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0
[04:14] <Kmos> :)
[04:14] <vincent_> what is KDE and gnome? I've used UNIX for half a year but that's it....
[04:14] <blackhat> mines in there too kmos
[04:14] <blackhat> Both quake and ut2004 get the same error
[04:15] <Kmos> blackhat: try: /sbin/ldconfig
[04:15] <Kmos> and try again
[04:15] <blackhat> I have.
[04:15] <blackhat> doesn't work.
[04:15] <Kmos> :(
[04:15] <blackhat> i'm using 64 bit edition ubuntu
[04:15] <Kmos> isn't that the problem
[04:15] <vincent_> Netherlands-Italy, a cool football game, is coming up very soon, LjL!
[04:15] <Kmos> hi! how to fix the irssi problem with perl at ubuntu ? irssi-text package at archive isn't fixed yet..
[04:15] <jenda> Lk2_: cool ISP: inversas.jazztel.es
[04:16] <[A] ndy80> vincent_: OT: we're going to win :P
[04:16] <Troels> Ello, mates.
[04:16] <ken> anyone know how to delete a folder on ubuntu seems that every synaptic packager does not do that
[04:16] <blackhat> Anyone play UT2004 DOOM3 or Quake 4 on an AMD64
[04:17] <vincent_> by how much?
[04:17] <Aleks> How to play mp3 files in breezy?
[04:17] <dducko> ken rm -r  directory
[04:17] <Kmos> Aleks: xmms
[04:17] <[A] ndy80> vincent_: I'm italian :)
[04:17] <mmiikkee12> found it - http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[04:17] <vincent_> I figured that out, sort of, but by how much are you going to win? 0-1?
[04:17] <raysiel_> salve
[04:18] <[A] ndy80> it would be enough ;)
[04:18] <vincent_> hey now you are blue and black
[04:18] <Kmos> hi! how to fix the irssi problem with perl at ubuntu ? irssi-text package at archive isn't fixed yet.. !?!?
[04:18] <threeseas> mushtag: I don't know the answer to your question unless what the dialog box is really asking you for is user and password for access to access theh programs on the ubuntu side of making the connection with the network on which the winxp machine is on.
[04:18] <ion> I'm using Hoary Hedgehog 5.04 but there is so many application which I can't install using apt-get install.......
[04:18] <Troels> Do any of you know, if it's possible to turn of the GUI and turn in on again? It's for the training of consol commands. Can anybody help me out?
[04:18] <Mabus06> does BBcode not work in ubuntu?
[04:19] <Troels> *off
[04:19] <nalioth>  ubotu tell Aleks about mp3
[04:19] <lsuactiafner> blackhat : for q4 i copied a 32bit slackware libsdl into quake4 and ran ldconfig, it worked
[04:19] <blackhat> lsuactiafer you just mean the /usr/local/games/quake4 (directory?)
[04:19] <lsuactiafner> blackhat : yeh
[04:19] <blackhat> Could you send me the file?
[04:20] <blackhat> Through IRC?
[04:20] <nalioth> blackhat: i see your problem now. your running amd64 arch
[04:20] <mmiikkee12> Mabus06: BBCode is part of forums ;)
[04:20] <vincent_> can anyone type an 'e' with a accent egu please?
[04:20] <lsuactiafner> ubuntu developers prolly edited the libsdl source and did something that other developers are unaware of
[04:20] <Stoffer> what kernel does the latest ubuntu release come with?
[04:20] <Thirsteh> Does anyone here know where to fetch a "default" config for shorewall or something? I just can't be arsed to set it all up from scratch
[04:21] <lsuactiafner> uploading the file..
[04:21] <frogzoo> Stoffer: /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0
[04:21] <ken> lol kk said it was removing but the directory is still there
[04:21] <jameshuang> Does anybody know how to install a new network adaptor in ubuntu?
[04:21] <Lk2_> somebody know if the charmaps are the same to ubuntu x86 and amd64?
[04:21] <frogzoo> Stoffer: oops w 2.6.12-9-386 #1
[04:21] <blackhat> thank you.
[04:21] <X3> anyone here got dvd burning on breezy?
[04:21] <X3> can't seem to find a couple of packages
[04:21] <Stoffer> and does it have a package management system like apt-get or emerge?
[04:22] <X3> that are listed on the ubuntuguide
[04:22] <mmiikkee12> apt
[04:22] <lsuactiafner> X3 : k3b
[04:22] <nalioth> Stoffer: of course. it's based on debian source
[04:22] <frogzoo> Stoffer: dpkg apt-get synaptic - take your pick
[04:22] <Stoffer> ok cool
[04:22] <nalioth> X3: dont follow the ubuntuguide any more, please
[04:22] <ken> sudo apt-get install webpage oor file name
[04:22] <X3> oh, ok
[04:22] <nalioth> X3: the u'guide was written for warty warthog and is currently dangerous to use
[04:23] <Troels> Can anybody help me out?
[04:23] <jameshuang> I can find my new network adaptor in device manager, but in networking it only shows eth0 for my another adaptor
[04:23] <Stoffer> I'm really getting tired of spending every day in #linuxhelp trying to get vector to work :P
[04:23] <frogzoo> Troels: pls don't ask - just leap in
[04:23] <ken> any other suggestions on removing a file besides doin a fifth clean install
[04:23] <Troels> Okay, how do you start up without the GUI? And how do you turn in on again.
[04:23] <Troels> *it
[04:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Troels about bum
[04:24] <X3> i c
[04:24] <Red-Sox> is there a nintendo 64 emulator that does not involve diskets?
[04:24] <X3> hmmm...
[04:24] <nalioth> X3: help.ubuntu.com
[04:24] <Geml> Hope some of you can help me out with this issue I have: I want hotplug to mount my USB drive as a different user than the defualt (logged in user). Is this possible?! thanks in advance
[04:24] <Red-Sox> !emukator
[04:25] <ubotu> Red-Sox: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[04:25] <Geml> im using ubuntu 5.10
[04:25] <Troels> nalioth: Thanx, mate.
[04:25] <Red-Sox> !emulator
[04:25] <ubotu> Red-Sox: No idea
[04:25] <Red-Sox> hmm...
[04:25] <Red-Sox> !synaptic
[04:25] <ubotu> synaptic is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Red-Sox about msg the bot
[04:25] <dducko> Red-Sox, zsnes
[04:25] <dducko> Red-Sox, snes9x
[04:25] <PJeremy> dducko: those are snes emus, not n64..
[04:25] <frogzoo> Troels: pass a kernel option for a different runlevel I guess - man bootparam
[04:26] <vincent_> can anyone type an a with an accent egu for me please!?
[04:26] <Red-Sox> dducko: does that use diskets?
[04:26] <tito> Hi
[04:26] <vincent_> please please?
[04:26] <tito> I'm tring to compile a program and configure is telling me this
[04:26] <PJeremy> vincent_:   
[04:26] <dducko> Red-Sox, What are diskets?
[04:26] <tito> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:26] <nalioth> vincent_: show us, we dont know what a egu is
[04:26] <vincent_> thanks
[04:26] <tito> what do I need to install to fix that?
[04:26] <nalioth> tito: install "build-essential"
[04:26] <dducko> Red-Sox, ROMS?
[04:26] <Red-Sox> dducko: disket games, or do the games come with the program?
[04:27] <Red-Sox> dducko: yes, or roms
[04:27] <PJeremy> vincent_: which one was the egu one? ;)
[04:27] <vincent_>   = a with accent egu,   = with accent grave,   = accent circonflex
[04:27] <X3> nalioth: just took a look at it - however, nothing on burning dvd's
[04:27] <dducko> Red-Sox, No the games dont come with them
[04:27] <X3> I think I just need dvdrip
[04:27] <Troels> froogzoo: I
[04:27] <Troels> froogzoo: I'll have a look.
[04:27] <X3> not 100% sure though
[04:27] <nalioth> X3: what pkgs are you missing?
[04:27] <Red-Sox> dducko: how do you get them?
[04:27] <tito> nalioth, thanks
[04:28] <lsuactiafner> blackhat : ftp://ftp.puk.ac.za/outgoing/libSDL-1.2.so.0.7.1
[04:28] <dducko> Red-Sox, Google search for them, is one way
[04:28] <Enquest> I got a mouse (logitech) that has an extra button. How do I uttileze that. And also my keyboard has extra buttons how do i use those
[04:28] <Red-Sox> dducko: any other ways?
[04:28] <lsuactiafner> and link libSDL-1.2.so.0 -> libSDL-1.2.so.0.7.1 in /usr/local/games/quake4 use ln -s libSDL-1.2.so.0.7.1 libSDL-1.2.so.0
[04:28] <lsuactiafner> then run ldconfig
[04:28] <dducko> Red-Sox, P2P applications
[04:29] <Yulia> anyone can say me why i cant get inet using dhcp an not with static ip?. Router works fine with static ip. ubuntu can ping other linux's lan but no router neither inet
[04:29] <voth> am i reading that right, someone playing Q4 under linux ?
[04:29] <The_Belgain> hi there, i was wondering if anyone could answer a quick EVMS question...?
[04:29] <Discipulus> isn't there a way to get Cedega free?
[04:30] <blaamann> Is there a repository that support mplayer ?
[04:30] <The_Belgain> is it possible to create a RAID5 array with one "missing" drive, i.e. an array without it's parity drive
[04:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell blaamann about mplayer
[04:30] <The_Belgain> so that the array is created in a degraded state, and the extra drive is added later?
[04:30] <Yulia> i am very confused
[04:30] <tito> I get anohter error when using configure it says
[04:30] <tito> checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.4.0... no
[04:31] <tito> *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
[04:31] <tito> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[04:31] <tito> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.
[04:31] <tito> configure: error: *** GTK+ version 2.4.0 not found!
[04:31] <tito> oh geez sorry for the flod
[04:31] <ion> for example this :root@ubuntuemerson:/home/emerson # sudo apt-get install dr.web
[04:31] <ion> Reading package lists... Done
[04:31] <ion> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:31] <ion> E: Couldn't find package dr.web
[04:31] <ion> root@ubuntuemerson:/home/emerson #      deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sid main
[04:31] <ion> bash: deb: command not found
[04:31] <ion> root@ubuntuemerson:/home/emerson #      deb-src http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sid main
[04:31] <ion> bash: deb-src: command not found
[04:31] <ion> root@ubuntuemerson:/home/emerson #
[04:31] <ion> root@ubuntuemerson:/home/emerson #
[04:31] <ion> root@ubuntuemerson:/home/emerson #
[04:31] <ion> root@ubuntuemerson:/home/emerson # apt-get update
[04:31] <ion> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release.gpg [189B] 
[04:31] <sledge__> hi
[04:31] <ion> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release
[04:31] <Goshawk> ion, tito use pastebin.ca
[04:31] <ion> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages
[04:31] <ion> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages
[04:31] <jenda> kick him
[04:31] <ion> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Sources
[04:31] <eXistenZ> nalioth, after installing kubuntu I'll see kubuntu as my OS instead of ubuntu?
[04:31] <ion> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Sources
[04:31] <ion> Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release.gpg [189B] 
[04:31] <ion> Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release [16.9kB] 
[04:31] <ion> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/main Packages
[04:31] <ion> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/restricted Packages
[04:31] <ion> Fetched 17.0kB in 8s (2105B/s)
[04:31] <ion> Reading package lists... Done
[04:31] <blackhat> holy crap
[04:31] <ion> root@ubuntuemerson:/home/emerson # apt-get install vlc libdvdcss2
[04:31] <blackhat> kick
[04:31] <ion> Reading package lists... Done
[04:31] <ion> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:31] <tito> http://pastebin.com/426626
[04:31] <ion> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[04:32] <GNULinuxer> ion: don't flood
[04:32] <ion> root@ubuntuemerson:/home/emerson #
[04:32] <jenda> kick ion
[04:32] <ion> root@ubuntuemerson:/home/emerson # /videolan/debian sid main
[04:32] <ion> bash: /videolan/debian: No such file or directory
[04:32] <tito> it says something about gtk what do I need to install to fix that?
[04:32] <ion> root@ubuntuemerson:/home/emerson # bash: deb-src: command not found
[04:32] <Goshawk> ion, stop!!
[04:32] <ion> bash: bash:: command not found
[04:32] <jenda> Ah good
[04:32] <jeppe> what i should do...i try to open movie ( totem )    The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector.???
[04:33] <GNULinuxer> bob2: how do you `request' kicking someone?
[04:33] <X3> nalioth: any idea where to get dvdrip from?
[04:33] <bob2> GNULinuxer: it's a weird feature of this irc network
[04:33] <nalioth> X3: yes, in the repos.
[04:33] <bob2> GNULinuxer: /quote remove foo "reason"
[04:33] <tito> can anyone help me?
[04:33] <GNULinuxer> bob2: great!
[04:33] <X3> when i do an apt-cache search dvdrip
[04:33] <X3> I get nothing
[04:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell X3 about repos
[04:33] <GNULinuxer> bob2: do you need ChanServ to be in the channel?
[04:34] <nalioth> X3: enable universe and multiverse
[04:34] <bob2> GNULinuxer: the only difference between it and kick is that it doesn't trigger some people's autorejoins ;)
[04:34] <Goshawk> tito, did you put your question on pastebin? if yes give me the link
[04:34] <bob2> GNULinuxer: hmmm, good point, I don't know
[04:34] <bob2> I'm clueless when it comes to irc
[04:34] <tito> Goshawk, yes i did http://pastebin.com/426626
[04:34] <GNULinuxer> bob2: heh ... even after sooo many years?
[04:35] <bob2> hah
[04:35] <nalioth> GNULinuxer: chanserv does not need to be present
[04:35] <GNULinuxer> nalioth: I see
[04:35] <Discipulus> ubotu, tell me about cedega
[04:36] <Enquest> I got a mouse (logitech) that has an extra button. How do I uttileze that. And also my keyboard has extra buttons how do i use those
[04:36] <jenda> Enquest: how many buttons on the mouse?
[04:36] <tito> Goshawk, any idea?
[04:36] <Enquest> 4
[04:37] <Enquest> the forth is the one for the thump
[04:37] <Liket> i'm having filesystem problems - I just installed ubuntu on a large raid array (2.5TB) - root partition is 20GB (ext3), and another partition is 2.2TiB (ext3).. GRUB failed to install, I have to use LILO, and I get a file system error upon bootup (size according to superblock does not batch physical size of device).. any ideas?
[04:37] <Troels> Okay, guys. Where do I find bum? Is it a package in spm or what?
[04:38] <lsuactiafner> blackhat : did it work?
[04:38] <bla|patrick> re
[04:38] <bob2> !+info bum breezy
[04:38] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[04:38] <ubotu> bum: (tool to manage bootup scripts), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.3.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 55 kB, Installed size: 348 kB
[04:38] <Mabus06> Are there any programs for ubuntu to edit map files like the ones used for half life 2 et al.?
[04:38] <bob2> Troels: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto, wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto, enable universe
[04:38] <bob2> Liket: does the array otherwise work fine?
[04:39] <Liket> bob2: as far as i know yes, all-new drives in RAID-5, and it does boot fine from the array physically
[04:39] <tito> Anyone???
[04:39] <frogzoo> Troels: looks like the answer is - remove gdm from the boot scripts, then create a grub entry passing kernel option "init=2"
[04:39] <Chizn> what is the best torrent program ever?
[04:39] <Chizn> in all mankind..
[04:40] <frogzoo> azureus without question
[04:40] <jenda> Chizn: Azureus
[04:40] <Red-Sox> hmm...I need help with limewire,...iv extracted it...now what?
[04:40] <Mabus06> azureus
[04:40] <lsuactiafner> frogzoo : chmod -x for gdm is better
[04:40] <Chizn> does it restart torrents on restarting the pc?
[04:40] <Red-Sox> iv read the ubotu
[04:40] <Goshawk_> tito, excuse me i fell... can you give me the link?
[04:40] <Liket> bob2: the error is: filesystem size (according to superblock) is 595308656 blocks. Physical size is 58437744 blocks. Either superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrups..
[04:40] <lsuactiafner> frogzoo : then you still have the file when you need it but it will be disabled also
[04:40] <Chizn> thanks people
[04:40] <kbrooks> bbl
[04:40] <tito> Goshawk, yeah http://pastebin.com/426626
[04:40] <cjr> anyone who is interested in seeing a tabbed version of Putty head over here: http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/putty-tabs/
[04:40] <lsuactiafner> Troels : check what i said to frogzoo
[04:40] <ion> I just want say thank you for the gentleman that had  kick me out  from the chat room I was just try to explain my problem I didn't want mess up......
[04:40] <frogzoo> lsuactiafner: no no - you just boot to a different runlevel & let the bootscripts handle it
[04:40] <Liket> bob2: so, the partition table says it's only 10% of the size
[04:41] <jenda> ion: you were flooding
[04:41] <bob2> Liket: hm, whack
[04:41] <Liket> bob2: haha, well that's true :)
[04:41] <bob2> Liket: afaik 2.6 and ext3 should be happy up to petabytes
[04:41] <lsuactiafner> frogzoo : yeh but rm gdm aint a good idea.. you shouldnt remove it..
[04:41] <jenda> ion: if you really need to post such an error first find someone who can help and the paste it in the pastebin.
[04:41] <Red-Sox> can anyone please help me with limewire installation?
[04:41] <Mabus06> Are there any programs for ubuntu to edit map files like the ones used for half life 2 et al.?
[04:41] <Troels> froogzoo/Isuactiafner: There isn't any simple thing to do then?
[04:41] <bob2> Red-Sox: it has no instructions at all?
[04:42] <Mabus06> What's wrong, Red-Sox?
[04:42] <Liket> bob2: i would think so.. should i try XFS instead? is there a nice menu-driven partitioning tool i can run from bash, like the one in the installer? (i'm pretty much a total newbie at *ux)
[04:42] <ion> I did yesterday !!!!
[04:42] <brodel> After downloading the kubuntu live CD and playing with it a little bit I really seemed to like KDE. It seemed to have a cleaner look to it. I have been using ubuntu for about a month and hate to have to reinstall everything again. Are there any real advantages to one over the other? I have tried searching google.. but haven't found any info that helps me make up my mind.
[04:42] <frogzoo> lsuactiafner: Troels - totally agree - use bum to stop gdm being _run_ in level 2 - then create a grub menu item to boot to whichever run level
[04:42] <bla|patrick> nalioth, still there?
[04:42] <nalioth> yes
[04:42] <tito> Goshawk, any idea?
[04:42] <Goshawk_> wait
[04:42] <tito> ok
[04:42] <Discipulus> how do I turn direct rendering on in OpenGL/
[04:42] <Red-Sox> bob2, Mabus06: i read the ubotu...downloaded it....extracted it....now what?
[04:43] <bla|patrick> i'll tried a different way now with the driver
[04:43] <lsuactiafner> Troels : chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm <- will disbale gdm, then do the run level thing as frogzoo said
[04:43] <bla|patrick> sudo su and changed to that folder
[04:43] <bob2> Liket: hm, it'd be a data point to know if xfs worked or not, at least ;).  the installer's partioner is sadly installer-specific, but 'cfdisk' is in the base system and usable.
[04:43] <lsuactiafner> need to be sudo to chmod
[04:43] <Discipulus> sudo -s > sudo su
[04:43] <frogzoo> lsuactiafner: the whole point is to not remove gdm - but to change which processes the rc scripts start in a particular runlevel - Ubuntu seems to start gdm in every runlevel, by default, which is a bit unique
[04:43] <flodine> has anyone got artwiz font working in breezy?
[04:43] <bla|patrick> now i got a new file after processing that ati installer
[04:43] <Goshawk_> tito, it seems that you don't have a package
[04:43] <bob2> Red-Sox: there's no INSTALL file? you didn't find the limewire wiki page?
[04:43] <bla|patrick> "fglrx-installer_8.19.10-1_i386.changes"
[04:43] <jenda> ion: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ - paste it there
[04:43] <tito> Goshawk, yeah but which one?
[04:43] <Liket> bob2: i'll try that, thanks!
[04:43] <Discipulus> how do I turn direct rendering on?
[04:43] <jenda> ion: Ilta ll have alook at it
[04:43] <Red-Sox> no, can you direct me, bob2?
[04:44] <frogzoo> lsuactiafner: Troels - no, don't do that - because then no runlevel will start gdm, that's not what you want
[04:44] <jenda> *I'll
[04:44] <Troels> Isuactiafner: Done (what you said).
[04:44] <Troels> frogzoo: Shite.
[04:44] <Chizn> bla|patrick,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78466
[04:44] <Chizn>  try that
[04:44] <Troels> ...?!
[04:44] <ruspu> I missed it because I had to go to kitchen so if someone could put te address again for me. which can replace this fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[04:44] <Chizn> was very good
[04:44] <bob2> bla|patrick: that's not needed
[04:44] <lsuactiafner> frogzoo : it wont
[04:44] <frogzoo> I got better things to hang around being unsulted by noobs
[04:44] <Troels> :)
[04:44] <Goshawk_> tito, one of libgtk
[04:45] <lsuactiafner> frogzoo : if its -x it doesnt start... i do it
[04:45] <bla|patrick> that is what appeared
[04:45] <bob2> bla|patrick: it's a special file that you could use to upload the packages to a debian/ubuntu repository
[04:45] <Troels> Frogzoo: Sorry?
[04:45] <bob2> ruspu: archive.ubuntu.com...
[04:45] <bla|patrick> Chizn, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_newer_8.19.x_drivers
[04:45] <Goshawk_> tito, found
[04:45] <Goshawk_> tito, libgtk2.0-dev
[04:46] <Liket> how can i enable the root account in a fresh ubuntu install with LILO (not grub)?
[04:46] <bla|patrick> bob2 but i dont get files called fglrx control
[04:46] <bla|patrick> or fglrx kernel source
[04:46] <bla|patrick> or xorg driver flgrx
[04:46] <bla|patrick> nothing
[04:46] <bob2> bla|patrick: none of those names are valid
[04:46] <Red-Sox> bob2: can you direct me to the wiki?
[04:46] <tito> Goshawk_, thanks
[04:46] <bla|patrick> sudo dpkg -i fglrx-control_8.19.10-1_i386.deb
[04:46] <bla|patrick> sudo dpkg -i fglrx-kernel-source_8.19.10-1_i386.deb
[04:46] <bla|patrick> sudo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx_8.19.10-1_i386.deb
[04:46] <Discipulus> does anyone know how I turn direct rendering on?
[04:46] <bla|patrick> i should get these files
[04:46] <bla|patrick> if u look at the link above
[04:46] <Goshawk_> tito, wait
[04:46] <bla|patrick> something that doesnt happens
[04:46] <tito> Goshawk_, ok
[04:46] <Goshawk_> tito, also libgtkmm-2.4
[04:47] <bla|patrick> i dont know how to explain it more clear in english
[04:47] <ceej> hey
[04:47] <bob2> bla|patrick: does your card not work with the ubuntu drivers?
[04:47] <Goshawk_> tito, libgtkmm-2.4-dev
[04:47] <bla|patrick> bob2: ya, but i need access to the ne controlpanel
[04:47] <bob2> Red-Sox: http://www.ctunion.com/node/52
[04:47] <bla|patrick> because linux stretches any resolution to my widescreen monitor
[04:47] <Ps2|tiepido> ciao
[04:47] <bla|patrick> with those in the repos it cant be disabled
[04:48] <Ps2|tiepido> nessuno  italiano?
[04:48] <BooZee> !adsl
[04:48] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL PPPoE Connection? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[04:48] <Goshawk_> Ps2|tiepido, io
[04:48] <vincent_> jeeezzz, you guys talk a lot!
[04:48] <Goshawk_> Ps2|tiepido, ma vai su #ubuntu-it
[04:48] <ion> I did right now...
[04:48] <k31th> bla|patrick: change the ress then
[04:48] <Troels> Okay, everybody is insulted now :P I've chmoded /etc/init.d/gdm with parameter -x
[04:48] <Troels> What now?
[04:48] <tito> now i need sdl
[04:48] <bla|patrick> k31th, ya, but if i play games like ET, which dont support  that res native it will be strechted
[04:49] <tritium> Troels, why did you do that?
[04:49] <bla|patrick> that is annoying
[04:49] <bob2> Troels: what are you trying to do?
[04:49] <bla|patrick> k31th, and i talked about this hours... i wonder that nobody noticed this
[04:49] <zdennis_> hey all, i am goig to get an external Modem today ,that hooks up to my serial port
[04:49] <zdennis_> that will work flawlessly?
[04:49] <bla|patrick> i guess i need specific help
[04:49] <Red-Sox> i need help with snes9x
[04:49] <bla|patrick> no tutorial helps me now
[04:49] <bob2> zdennis_: almost certainly
[04:49] <tritium> Troels, are you trying to disable X on boot?  See this: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start
[04:49] <bob2> Red-Sox: you need to be more specific
[04:50] <tritium> Troels, using update-rc.d is preferable to the chmod -x method
[04:50] <zdennis_> bob2, ok cool, just wanted to touch base with this channel one last time before i went to the store =)
[04:50] <zdennis_> ttyl
[04:50] <Troels> bob2: You see, in order to practise the commands, a few lads have to try Linux without GUI. I want to disable it. The problem is that I have no idea how to turn off/on. And I seem to insult everybody :)
[04:50] <Red-Sox> iv installed it, but dont know how to run snesx2
[04:50] <Troels> Okay... I'll have a look.
[04:50] <bob2> zdennis_: good luck ;p
[04:50] <jenda> ion: gimme a sec
[04:50] <bob2> Troels: do you really need to disable it?  you can get a terminal inside gnome, as well.
[04:51] <bob2> Red-Sox: snes<tab> in a shell should work.
[04:51] <Ps2|tiepido> su quale server si trova ubuntu .it
[04:51] <Troels> tritium: How do I "undo" when I wrote chmod -x etc etc?
[04:51] <jenda> ion: do you have repos universe multiverse installed?
[04:51] <Red-Sox> bob2: i do not understand run taht in a terminal?
[04:51] <Red-Sox> that*
[04:51] <bob2> Red-Sox: yes
[04:51] <tritium> Troels, chmod also has a +x switch
[04:51] <k31th> bla|patrick: dunno mate tbh i havent gamed in linux for a while
[04:52] <k31th> cedg
[04:52] <Troels> Great.
[04:52] <k31th> i got cedega to run HL2 but it was shit
[04:52] <ion> I have no clue what it is....
[04:52] <Ps2|tiepido> qualcuno s dirmi dove trovare aiuto in italiano?
[04:52] <tritium> !it
[04:52] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[04:52] <ion> sorry...
[04:52] <k31th> so went to winblows just for gaming
[04:52] <Red-Sox> bob2: I get this: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[04:52] <bla|patrick> ok now i try to use the tool itself to generate that files
[04:52] <Troels> bob2: Well...
[04:52] <bla|patrick> nothing happens
[04:52] <Ps2|tiepido> ma non c nessun canale cos su questo server
[04:52] <bla|patrick> selected ubuntu 5.10 generating files for ubuntu
[04:53] <Troels> bob2: I dunno if I <i>have</i> to. It seems like they switch back to mouse clicking if not.
[04:53] <Troels> If you know what I mean.
[04:53] <tritium> !tell Ps2|tiepido about it
[04:53] <bla|patrick> and it says it should been played in my current directory
[04:53] <bla|patrick> would be home/patrick/ATI/
[04:53] <bla|patrick> there is nothing
 italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-) ?????????
[04:53] <Red-Sox> bob2: did you gat that ^?
[04:53] <Mabus06> wow, azureus is a lot faster than bittorrent...
[04:53] <bob2> Troels: ah. 'sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*gdm' to disable it from the next reboot, 'sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults' to reenable it from the next boot.
[04:53] <vincent_> so, the desertrose story is over
[04:54] <ion> I'm newcomer so I don 't now much about it...
[04:54] <bob2> Red-Sox: yes
[04:54] <vincent_> I have burnt a ship behind me
[04:54] <Red-Sox> =-O
[04:54] <bob2> Mabus06: heh, I found it to be slower than bittornado
[04:54] <Troels> bob2: Thanks a lot. :)
[04:54] <bob2> Troels: np.
[04:54] <Red-Sox> do you know how to fix it, bob2?
[04:54] <vincent_> is that an english expression too? to burn a ship behind you?
[04:54] <bob2> Red-Sox: I don't know what you did, so no.
[04:55] <Red-Sox> bob2: i typed snes<tab>
[04:55] <BlueEagle> vincent_: I think it's a bridge
[04:55] <vincent_> it means if you go somewhere and you burn a ship behind you you have eliminated an undo option
[04:55] <bob2> Red-Sox: and you replaced <tab> with the tab key?
[04:55] <BlueEagle> ofcourse you can always burn a ship behind you if you came by boat...
[04:55] <vincent_> ok, burn a bridge
[04:55] <Red-Sox> bob2: o...no...what is a tab key?
[04:56] <vincent_> did the Red-Sox win?
[04:56] <Goshawk_> Red-Sox, the button with 2 arrows
[04:56] <tritium> Red-Sox, you're kidding, right?
[04:56] <Red-Sox> vincent_: lol, no:-[
[04:56] <marlun> I'm trying to map URLs to folders outside of /var/www/ and I followed a guide and did this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4413 , however when I try to go to http://localhost/marlun/index.php I get an error saying I do not have permission to access maruln on this server.
[04:56] <tritium> Goshawk_, this laptop with a U.K. keyboard is actually the first I've seen with 2 arrows on a tab key
[04:56] <Red-Sox> tritium: most certainly not
[04:57] <bob2> sleeptime, clearly.
[04:57] <nick_> Are there any programs for ubuntu to edit map files like the ones used for half life 2 et al.? Can someone please suggest something please?
[04:57] <marlun> What have I done wrong?
[04:57] <bob2> marlun: does apache indeed have permission to acces /home/marlun/public_html/?
[04:57] <Goshawk_> tritium, in mine that is italian keyboard it's upper caps lock
[04:57] <tritium> Goshawk_, interesting differences...
[04:57] <marlun> bob2, how can I check/set that?
[04:57] <Troels> bob2: Sorry, had a problem. Closed the window and I didn't manage to copy what you wrote.
[04:58] <Troels> Can you write the two things again?
[04:58] <klaaner-libby> Hi :-) How can I remove the bootsplash? I deleted usplash, but there remain a few seconds of the bootsplash
[04:58] <Red-Sox> What Is A Tab Key?
[04:58] <bob2> marlun: ls -ld / /home/ /home/marlun/ /home/marlun/public_html/
[04:58] <bmrtin> what is a way to share files between 2 linux boxes
[04:59] <jenda> OK ion - I'm getting to it
[04:59] <bmrtin> i know theres samba
[04:59] <bob2> klaaner-libby: you'd probably have to hack the initramfs
[04:59] <misfit_toy> Red-Sox, it should be under your ~ or 1 key, it will have two arrows on it
[04:59] <bob2> Troels: ah. 'sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*gdm' to disable it from the next reboot, 'sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults' to reenable it from the next boot.
[04:59] <bob2> bmrtin: NFS is another option
[04:59] <misfit_toy> Red-Sox, and it should say TAB
[04:59] <bmrtin> thanks
[04:59] <bob2> bmrtin: it's as insecure as smb, tho
[04:59] <rob_p> marlun:  Usually you need to specify something similar to, "Options FollowSymLinks" in the directive that defines Web accessible locations.  Or you can put it in a .htaccess file (I think.).
[04:59] <marlun> bob2, wrxr-xr-x
[05:00] <ion> all right man cheers
[05:00] <jenda> ion: if you say something, put my name in the message, to highlight it - otherwise I will prolly not see it
[05:00] <Red-Sox> mistif_toy: i just dont even know where my ~ or 1 key is, as a mater of fact, i dont know what it is!
[05:00] <tritium> Red-Sox, if it's a U.S. keyboard, don't expect it to have 2 arrows
[05:00] <bob2> marlun: that would have shown you 4 lines. show us them in #flood.
[05:00] <tritium> It should be left of "Q", Red-Sox
[05:00] <nick__> Are there any programs for ubuntu to edit map files like the ones used for half life 2 et al.? Can someone please suggest something please?
[05:00] <Red-Sox> IM SO CONFUSED!!
[05:00] <misfit_toy> Red-Sox, you don't know where the number 1 key is? the one that has a 1 on it? upper left?
[05:00] <ion> jenda: sorry
[05:00] <Red-Sox> OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH
[05:00] <Zuiden> alright i have a cross over cable between an XP and ubuntu 5.10 machine, how do i get this set up to be able to see hard drives?
[05:00] <jenda> ion: np
[05:01] <Red-Sox> I thought it was like a folder or something, misfit_toy, im sure you thought i was CRAZY!
[05:01] <jenda> ion: sudo gedit etc/apt/sources.list
[05:02] <misfit_toy> Red-Sox, pretty much
[05:02] <misfit_toy> Red-Sox, so in a terminal type snes then hit the TAB key on the keyboard
[05:02] <ion> jenda: so I have to type that on my terminal ?
[05:02] <jenda> ion: yes
[05:02] <misfit_toy> Red-Sox, then enter
[05:02] <jenda> ion: and the password
[05:02] <Chizn> is azureus in the ubuntu repositories?
[05:02] <bob2> marlun: chmod a+rx /home/marlun/public_html/
[05:02] <Red-Sox> misfit_toy: got it
[05:02] <bob2> Chizn: no
[05:02] <Chizn> or do i have to go through a mission impossible?
[05:02] <bob2> Chizn: not for breezy, anyway
[05:03] <rickardg> Does anyone know how to restart the X server using the Breezy live CD?
[05:03] <bob2> rickardg: from a terminal?
[05:03] <Chizn> is there any how to, for ubuntu on installing it?
[05:03] <tritium> !install
[05:03] <ubotu> from memory, install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[05:03] <Stormx2> Chizn: I think automatrix installs it... let me see
[05:03] <bob2> uck
[05:03] <Stormx2> tritium: Install azeureze, not ubuntu.,
[05:03] <cjr> anyone who is interested in seeing a tabbed version of Putty head over here: http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/putty-tabs/
[05:04] <osmandemirhan> Hi, are there OpenOffice.org2 packages of stable release for breezy?
[05:04] <tito> Hi
[05:04] <marlun> bob2, thanks =) working now
[05:04] <tito> I'm trying ot run a program an dI have no sound and I get this error. ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[05:04] <tito> how can I fix this?
[05:04] <Stormx2> bob2: You banned cjr?
[05:04] <bob2> marlun: (apache has to have permission to access any files it is supposed to serve)
[05:05] <rickardg> bob2: yes, terminal, I think. I'm testing out different xorg.conf
[05:05] <bob2> rickardg: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[05:05] <bob2> Stormx2: yes
[05:05] <scrooch> hi
[05:05] <Stormx2> bob2: kay
[05:05] <bob2> cjr: try #putty
[05:05] <tito> can anyone help me please?
[05:05] <AngryPunk> Could someone help me please?  I'm trying to remove a menu item (TransGaming) folder from my Applications menu but SMEG wont delete it or hide it
[05:05] <scrooch> Quake 3 except for the maps are GPL'ed. Can I now legally download GPL, install add-ons and play these online legally?
[05:05] <bob2> (erroneously)
[05:06] <scrooch> *download Quake i mean hehe
[05:06] <AngryPunk> scrootch yes but lots of addons require the original data files
[05:06] <AngryPunk> and they are not free
[05:07] <thrush> scrooch: whats this obsession u have with following the law??
[05:07] <ion> jenda: nothing happen...
[05:07] <Grug> jail perhaps?
[05:07] <tritium> thrush, come on now
[05:07] <AngryPunk> nobodys gonna go to jail for pirating q3 data files...
[05:07] <thrush> sorry
[05:07] <Stormx2> thrush: I'm with you =)
[05:07] <tito> oh please can someone hlep
[05:07] <marlun> bob2, yeah will think about that in the future :)
[05:07] <scrooch> lol thrush ... I just want to play quake3 online.... Last time I checked I needed a serial... I think now I dont need a serial key anymore since it's gpled, right?
[05:07] <robertj_> scrooch: well err...yes and no
[05:07] <Stormx2> !tell tito about sound
[05:07] <robertj_> scrooch: chances of finding a 100% conversion are not good
[05:07] <tritium> we always keep it legal in here
[05:07] <jenda> ion: can you see the othre window? private messages?
[05:07] <AngryPunk> Is there a way to remove items from the Applications menu that works?  or is this channel worthless now
[05:07] <robertj_> also, I don't know if there is a q3 deb
[05:07] <Liket> what's an easy way to install sshd on a fresh ubuntu install?
[05:07] <bob2> AngryPunk: oh, stop it
[05:08] <bob2> AngryPunk: if smeg doesn't work, file a bug
[05:08] <Stormx2> AngryPunk: SMEG won't?
[05:08] <robertj_> I'd like to know if anyone does know if q3 has had it's src packaged so that it can be built with deb-src
[05:08] <bob2> Liket: openssh-server
[05:08] <scrooch> Well, but do you need a serial key to connect to quake3 servers now?
[05:08] <AngryPunk> ya stormx2 smeg doesnt work
[05:08] <tritium> AngryPunk, file a bug then
[05:08] <jenda> ion: I need some attention to be able to help. Cam you see the private messages?
[05:09] <AngryPunk> k, thanks
[05:09] <robertj_> having a standalone urban terror would be sweet
[05:09] <bob2> robertj_: hm, no one has itp'd it yet
[05:09] <Liket> bob2: thanks.. i wonder why i didn't see it when i searched for "ssh" in aptitude
[05:09] <bob2> that could be an interesting summer project
[05:09] <bob2> if it even builds anymore
[05:09] <Grug> is there a way in this xchat program to hide the connecting and leaving messages?
[05:10] <robertj_> bob2: actually I saw a months old itp that never went anywhere on d-d
[05:10] <robertj_> bob2: AFAIK it's not really being hacked on by anyone
[05:10] <kbrooks> back
[05:10] <cjr> http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/putty-tabs/
[05:10] <bob2> cjr: please stop it
[05:10] <bob2> cjr: I'm not going to warn you again
[05:11] <jenda> ion: FOCUS IN HERE or I'll NOT help
[05:11] <bob2> robertj_: hm, missed it on google
[05:11] <Seveas> jenda, chill dude...
[05:11] <ceej> anyone use wine?
[05:11] <AngryPunk> i do
[05:11] <erisco> I am trying to run an online game, but my computer is maxing out it's RAM which is 256MB. I was wondering if it was possible to run firefox without the whole desktop environment running.... and would this save up some RAM?
[05:11] <ion> jenda: ok I'm here...
[05:11] <jenda> Seveas:Cool as ice :) Running out of time tho.
[05:11] <robertj_> http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.devel/browse_thread/thread/30fd1a9602f8d6e8/cfeb9cdfa5f33966?lnk=st&q=quake3+ITP&rnum=1&hl=en#cfeb9cdfa5f33966
[05:11] <jenda> ion: good
[05:11] <AngryPunk> ceej : i use wine
[05:12] <ceej> im trying to run a setup.exe
[05:12] <jenda> ion: see the PMs?
[05:12] <cjr> bob2: what on earth are you talking about? *and* what is this "I'm not going to warn you again" stuff?
[05:12] <bob2> hm, I always forget they're on usenet
[05:12] <Seveas> cjr, your completely irrelevant putty campaign
[05:12] <AngryPunk> cd to directory where setup.exe is in a term window then type 'wine setup.exe' easy as that
[05:12] <bob2> cjr: if you want to discuss putty, go to #putty
[05:12] <ion> jenda:what is it..
[05:12] <cjr> *my* campaign?
[05:12] <cjr> eh?
[05:12] <bob2> cjr: pimping an online petition is not on-topic
[05:12] <cjr> ah, I see
[05:12] <cjr> OK, that makes sense
[05:12] <jenda> ion: The private messages, so we on't have to talk in here
[05:13] <njan> erisco, xsession
[05:13] <tito> how can I get audio mixing
[05:13] <Yulia> hi...
[05:13] <Liket> bob2: cfdisk says "FATAL ERROR: Cannot get disk size"
[05:13] <erisco> xsession? is this a command i need to use?
[05:13] <cjr> it seemed to me as if it might have been useful, I didn't see it as off-topic, but if it is, then it is
[05:13] <bob2> Liket: ouch
[05:13] <ceej> when i double click on the .exe i get an error .\AutoPlay\main.ini
[05:13] <tito> ONLY one program can use the sound
[05:13] <Liket> bob2: does that mean i need to umount something? :)
[05:13] <Liket> bob2: or is that just plain bad? :)
[05:13] <Zambba> My friend has a problem with locales
[05:13] <Seveas> Liket, did you run cfdisk as root?
[05:13] <robertj_> bob2: also see http://icculus.org/quake3/
[05:13] <bob2> Liket: that means I'm entirely out of my depth, sorry :)
[05:13] <tito> though alsa
[05:13] <Liket> seveas: yes, i am
[05:13] <jeppe> how i install mplayer???breezy
[05:14] <Mabus06> Are there any programs for ubuntu to edit map files like the ones used for half life 2 et al.? Can someone please suggest something please?
[05:14] <Zambba> he changed locale with dpkg-reconfigure locales from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-15 but it didn't work
[05:14] <Seveas> Liket, in that case I agree with bob2: ouch
[05:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jeppe about mplayer
[05:14] <Liket> seveas: damn it! :)
[05:14] <bob2> Liket: I'd be guessing linux is unhappy with your disk size, but I have no idea where or how to fix it
[05:14] <njan> erisco, you could use xsession to launch your own set of apps by invoking X via startx
[05:14] <Liket> does that mean my hard drive is just plain too fscking big? :)
[05:14] <jeppe> thanks....
[05:14] <njan> erisco, when you launch x via gdm, gdm decides what desktop environment to drop you into and launches all the gnomey stuff
[05:14] <Seveas> Liket, how big?
[05:14] <bob2> Seveas: 2.5TB
[05:14] <Stormx2> O___________________O
[05:14] <dell500> anyone here know anything about aticonfig and bigdesktop?
[05:14] <Seveas> woah...
[05:14] <jenda> ion: if not, nevermind. So nothing AT ALL happens when you type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:14] <bob2> er, linux as opposed to the ext3 or cfdisk code
[05:14] <Liket> 11 250gb disks in a RAID-5 array plus a hot spare
[05:15] <erisco> njan, so for example, how do i get out of gnome right now?
[05:15] <njan> erisco, if you launched x via startx from the command line and just had, say, xterm launched via xsession (man xsession for more info), you could launch firefox from xterm and you'd only have xterm and firefox being launched
[05:15] <Seveas> f*ing hell :)
[05:15] <Stormx2> Can you even GET disk drives that big?!
[05:15] <Mabus06> Seveas, bob2, do you know of any programs to make maps that work on engines like Doom 3?
[05:15] <ceej> when i double click on the setup.exe i get an error .\AutoPlay\main.ini
[05:15] <ion> jenda:nothing
[05:15] <Seveas> Mabus06, no
[05:15] <bob2> Mabus06: no, sorry
[05:15] <njan> erisco, Ctrl-Alt-F1 \\ login \\ sudo killall gdm && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop && startx would probably do it
[05:15] <Liket> stormx2: no but with a raid array it's presented as one logical unit to the OS
[05:15] <Stormx2> ah
[05:15] <jenda> ion: You are using Ubuntu Breezy, With X and Gnome?
[05:15] <tito> Can anyone help me getting alsa ot let me than one program use soudn?
[05:15] <erisco> and to get back in?
[05:15] <Seveas> Liket, it might be to large
[05:15] <njan> erisco, the startx does that for you
[05:16] <bob2> tito: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:16] <ion> jenda:hoary
[05:16] <njan> erisco, or if you wanted to use gdm again to log back into gnome, sudo gdm from the console (ie. Ctrl-Alt-F1 first to get to the console)
[05:16] <BooZee> how can I set the screen brightness\contrast\gama from ubuntu (and not from the monitor) ?
[05:16] <Liket> seveas: damn it! that just plain sucks :)
[05:16] <Discipulus> how do I turn direct rendering on?
[05:16] <bob2> Liket: it's odd that install works at all, since the installer and the installed system use the same kernel
[05:16] <erisco> okay so when i do this, and get out of gnome, i want to type startx firefox
[05:17] <njan> erisco, it's worth checking, I'm not sure what ubuntu breezy will drop you into by default if you startx. It might be gnome - if it is you'll need to create your own config just for a minimal desktop
[05:17] <erisco> njan, is that right?
[05:17] <bob2> Discipulus: what card?
[05:17] <Seveas> Liket, why the hell do you need 2.5TB in one logical disk?
[05:17] <njan> okno, just startx. Then launch firefox from the xterm that startx should give you
[05:17] <ion> jenda: I'm using hoary hedgehog 5.04
[05:17] <njan> s/okno/erisco/
[05:17] <Seveas> (apart from the 1337 factor it has ;))
[05:17] <jenda> ion: With Gnome.
[05:17] <ion> jenda:yes...
[05:17] <erisco> njan, then my program goes after that?
[05:18] <jenda> can you paste the command line output?
[05:18] <njan> erisco, damn, startx gives you gnome, give me one second
[05:18] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : movies..
[05:18] <lsuactiafner> heh
[05:18] <jenda> ion: no one will mind if it's a few lines.
[05:18] <erisco> njan, lol okay, i am slightly confused
[05:18] <Red-Sox> bob2: after i type that command?
[05:18] <Liket> seveas: well, you hit the nail on the head there, seveas :). i know i need redundancy, but i didn't REALLY need 2.5 TB, no.. but since i bought the 12 port controller anyway, i figured why not max it out. everything installed fine with 8 drives (1.75 TB) but since I upgraded to 12 drives, i'm having these problems
[05:18] <jenda> ion: can you paste the command line output?
[05:18] <lsuactiafner> though i can only fill 2TB right away
[05:18] <Seveas> Liket, I thnk that you hit a limit at 2TB
[05:18] <erisco> njan, really if there is any possible way to free up... say 50MB of RAM I am happy
[05:19] <ion> jenda: how...?
[05:19] <Liket> seveas: sh*t! there has to be a way though, i can't be the first person crazy/stupid enough to do this right?
[05:19] <lsuactiafner> erisco : and your swap?
[05:19] <Seveas> Liket, youst make 2 logical partitions :)
[05:19] <bob2> CERN produces like 10GB/s during experiments
[05:19] <jenda> ion: Select it in the terminal and middle click in here
[05:19] <Seveas> s/youst/you just/
[05:19] <bob2> 2.5tb won't go far with that
[05:19] <Seveas> bob2, but that's not on linux ;)
[05:20] <bob2> I bet it is
[05:20] <Red-Sox> bob2: then, after you type snes<tab>?
[05:20] <erisco> lsuactiafner 728 free
[05:20] <Seveas> afaik it's simply a matter of size_t disksize; that overflows at 2TB
[05:20] <dustin_> hey
[05:20] <Liket> seveas: i suppose i could.
[05:20] <wickedpuppy> cern uses its own version of redhat ...
[05:20] <ion> jenda: my root terminal ?
[05:20] <njan> erisco, edit the file .xinitrc in your home directory
[05:20] <Seveas> wickedpuppy, yeah "Scientific Linux"
[05:20] <njan> erisco, stick mozilla-firefox on the first line
[05:20] <Liket> seveas: but.. how many bits in a size_t ?
[05:20] <erisco> njan, eep, this sounds dangerous
[05:20] <Liket> seveas: if 32, it'd overflow at 2gb, not 2tb
[05:20] <wickedpuppy> yup yup ... tried it before ... not very impressive
[05:20] <jenda> ion: OK. click Applications>System tools> Terminal
[05:20] <bob2> Liket: it's blocks, not bytes
[05:20] <njan> erisco, if you 'startx' from the command line, when x starts it'll look in there to see what it should launch on top of X, and if you just have firefox in there you'll literally get a desktop with just firefox
[05:20] <Liket> bob2: oh!
[05:21] <bob2> Liket: so 4KB * 2^32 or so
[05:21] <njan> erisco, so if you launch x by typing 'startx' rather than by letting gdm start, all you'll get will be firefox
[05:21] <Liket> bob2: ahhhhh. so can i reformat with bigger blocks?
[05:21] <bob2> er, 512bytes, I guess
[05:21] <erisco> njan, but how do i get back to my gnome desktop?
[05:21] <njan> erisco, you have a couple of options
[05:21] <erisco> njan, this doesn't look too possible if i only have firefox
[05:21] <ion> jenda: is already open
[05:22] <njan> erisco, one is disable gdm and just let yourself login to a text console, and then either 'sudo gdm' to get a gdm login (to login to gnome) or 'startx' to get only firefox
[05:22] <folki> Can anybody help me? What software I should to use if I want to make soft in C in Linux. And how can I install it?
[05:22] <Red-Sox> how do you launch snesx9?
[05:22] <robertj_> bob2: apparently some guy actually packaged it http://www.archivum.info/debian-wnpp@lists.debian.org/2005-11/msg00147.html
[05:22] <fredforfaen> I have a issue , i cant burn mp3's to audiocd's after i upgraded to breezy....both gnomebaker and k3b complaints that they dont have the right plugin to handle mp3's...what to do?
[05:22] <Liket> Seveas: hey, you must admit this looks pretty sexy: /dev/sda4             2.2T  129M  2.1T   1% /fileserver
[05:22] <bob2> Liket: I think Seveas is refering to soemething that would limit the size of the disks themselves
[05:22] <shredwheat> i need to update apt-get gpgkeys. What is the command for that? I can post the error if it helps.
[05:22] <bob2> er, array
[05:22] <erisco> okay i dont really enjoy text counsels... so i will go with the sudo gdm
[05:22] <njan> erisco, the other would be, whenever you want just firefox, to go || Ctrl-Alt-F1 \\ login \\ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop \\ sudo killall gdm \\ startx ||
[05:22] <Red-Sox> fredforfaen: try nero
[05:22] <Liket> that's true.
[05:22] <fredforfaen> ah
[05:22] <fredforfaen> ill try
[05:22] <fredforfaen> Red-Sox thanx
[05:22] <dustin_> i'm using xubuntu what is a good terminal (with scrolling and other features
[05:23] <njan> erisco, well, you're using the text console either way, ctrl-alt-f1 takes you to the text console
[05:23] <Red-Sox> fredforfaen: i spose its worth a try
[05:23] <bob2> robertj_: hm, on -wnpp, which is a shame
[05:23] <njan> erisco, ctrl-alt-f7 takes you to the graphical console (where you are now)
[05:23] <ceej> can anyone help me with wine?
[05:23] <bob2> dustin_: xterm
[05:23] <erisco> njan, how can i get a counsel or terminal with the firefox desktop?
[05:23] <threeseas> slashdot is reporting that draper drak has hit the ubuntu servers
[05:23] <ion> jenda: after that....?
[05:23] <njan> erisco, if you wanted a console too, just add 'xterm' or the name of your favourite terminal to a new line in .xinitrc
[05:23] <Liket> hmm.
[05:23] <erisco> njan, so instead of sudo gdm i can put in ctrl-alt-f7?
[05:24] <jenda> ion: and type the command. Then select with your mouse the whole contents from the place you typed the command to the next prompt.
[05:24] <robertj_> bob2: what's wnpp stand for?
[05:24] <erisco> njan, so xterm will go on the next line?
[05:24] <Liket> i think maybe i should just admit defeat and take two drives out.. 10 drives - 1 hot spare - 1 redundancy = 8x250GB = 2.0TB (not TiB), and that should pass under the limit, right?
[05:24] <fredforfaen> Red-Sox dont seem that nero has the possibility to burn audiocd's
[05:24] <erisco> njan, and how will i activate it?
[05:24] <robertj_> ahh I see it now Work-Needing and Prospective Packages
[05:24] <njan> erisco, ctrl-alt-f7 takes you to the graphical console if it's there. gdm launches something and then takes you to the right place to view it - if there isn't a graphical session running, you'll just see a blank screen - try ctrl-alt-f8 (and ctrl-alt-f7 brings you back here) - you'll just see a black desktop
[05:24] <njan> erisco, each app on each new line will get launched when x starts, so you could stick three lines in there for three apps.
[05:25] <njan> erisco, how will you activate the stuff in .xinitrc?
[05:25] <folki> How software I should use to programming in C?
[05:25] <dustin_> threeseas, really?
[05:25] <agtnz> Does anyone here use xubuntu-desktop?
[05:25] <sunshine82> crimsun could u please help me
[05:25] <erisco> njan, this knowledge is over my head... i am terribly afraid i will mess something up
[05:25] <ion> jenda: perhaps is better remote access......
[05:25] <agtnz> Or know how to lauch the XScreensaver daemon at login
[05:26] <njan> erisco, whatever you break it'll fix with a reboot.
[05:26] <bob2> robertj_: work needed and prospective pckages, iirc
[05:26] <njan> erisco, this won't alter anything permanently, the worst that could happen would be you'd get confused and not have a console.
[05:26] <hedonick> folki: you could try anjuta for exampl
[05:26] <sunshine82> crimsun i had to sort somethin out and i thinkn robotgeek is gone
[05:26] <bob2> robertj_: it's mainly used to archive itp/rfp/orphan messages
[05:26] <njan> erisco, a ctrl-alt-delete will eventually get you back to a login after a reboot.
[05:26] <ion> and you sort out the problem but pelase explain me what you have done ....
[05:26] <Mabus06> ugh, how do you update your rar stuff again? so it can open rar archives with multiple .r** files?
[05:26] <nalioth> Mabus06: install unrar-nonfree
[05:26] <robertj_> bob2: well apparently he actually got around to packing it which sounds like a good start
[05:26] <jenda> ion: I'd prefer not to. Please type the command, press ENTER, COPY the output.
[05:26] <erisco> njan, so after i do these changes, they will be rewritten after a reboot?
[05:26] <robertj_> and that was less than a week ago so I'll email him
[05:27] <robertj_> btw, I'm a noughty boy and found the url -> http://scorpius.homelinux.org/~marc/debian/
[05:27] <sunshine82> crimsun i've installed linuxheader alright now but im getting this error when i ttry and make this file  nw802-2.4
[05:27] <jenda> ion: to copy, select the output with your mouse (with drag and drop) and then middle click in your IRC client to paste it.
[05:27] <ion> jenda: ok tell me which command lins I have to type....?
[05:27] <njan> erisco, .xinitrc, if it's there, will mean that if you launch x via the 'startx' command, you'll have whatever's in there launched
[05:28] <njan> erisco, but when your system starts it launches x via gdm, and when you login to gdm, gdm picks what is on your desktop
[05:28] <njan> erisco, so even if you've killed gdm, when you reboot you get it back and it'll let you launch gnome again.
[05:28] <threeseas> dustin: yeah though I forget the 'e' in drake
[05:28] <erisco> njan, oh i c
[05:28] <erisco> njan, this config file is only for the startx
[05:28] <njan> erisco, indeed.
[05:28] <erisco> njan, it will not effect gnome
[05:29] <njan> erisco, .xinitrc is designed for a world in which people login to a system in text mode and then 'startx' to get a new-fangled, fancy graphical desktop with the X apps of their choosing on top of it :)
[05:29] <jenda> ion: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:29] <jenda> *ion: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:29] <erisco> njan, okay i will try that out
[05:29] <sunshine82> crimsun http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4416
[05:29] <folki> And how can I install anjuta?
[05:30] <wdh> foampeace, "sudo apt-get install anjuta"?
[05:30] <sunshine82> ca n someone look at this file and tell me why im gettin this error and how to fix this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4416
[05:30] <wdh> s/foampeace/folki/
[05:30] <Red-Sox> fredforfaen: right click the files you would like to burn, click write to cd
[05:30] <ion> jenda: emerson@ubuntuemerson:~$ sudo getit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:31] <ion> Password:
[05:31] <jenda> ion: enter the password
[05:31] <nalioth> ion: please dont paste
[05:31] <wdh> ion, fix your typo
[05:31] <nalioth> jenda: the pwd blank is empty no matter what
[05:31] <fredforfaen> Red-Sox in nero?
[05:31] <jenda> nalioth: I asked him to
[05:31] <jenda> nalioth: I know... sheesh
[05:31] <ion> jenda: I can't the system doesn't allow me...I don't knoe why
[05:31] <nalioth> jenda: we have a pastebin for pasting, iirc he dumped a sources.list in here earlier
[05:32] <jenda> ion: It does. You can't see it. but it does
[05:32] <jenda> nalioth: It was one line
[05:32] <Red-Sox> how do you unzip files?
[05:32] <linuxboy> is there any backport for ssh 4.2 yet?
[05:32] <agtnz> ion: as wdh pointed out, getit should be gedit
[05:32] <Red-Sox> freforfaen: no
[05:32] <folki> sorry but I don` t understand what does it mean? I am using Ubuntu only second day!
[05:32] <jenda> nalioth: And I noticed that before. I asked him to post thot in the pastebin
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> Red-Sox, the file ends with .zip ? then unzip file.zip
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> folki, type that command in the terminal
[05:32] <fredforfaen> Red-Sox i tried in nautilus no go..:(
[05:32] <dustin_> i am using xterm and i caon't scroll
[05:32] <Red-Sox> wickedpuppy: i know, but how do you unzip?
[05:32] <dustin_> it makes me sad
[05:33] <Red-Sox> fredforfaen: hmm...
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> Red-Sox, i thought i said? unzip file.zip
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> dustin_,  'xterm' dosent have a scroll bar on the side?
[05:33] <ion> jenda:Password:
[05:33] <ion> sudo: getit: command not found
[05:33] <ion> emerson@ubuntuemerson:~$
[05:33] <Seveas> ion, gedit
[05:33] <jenda> ion: GEDIT
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> lol
[05:33] <dustin_> i'm using xfcd
[05:33] <Red-Sox> wickedpuppy: but how do you unzip it?
[05:33] <Seveas> and doo not paste in here please
[05:33] <agtnz> :)
[05:33] <BockBilbo> is it possible to execute a bash script when starting an user session in gnome?
[05:33] <dustin_> but that shouldn't matter right
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> Red-Sox, type unzip file.zip
[05:33] <Red-Sox> okay
[05:34] <jenda> ion: now you opened a text file, and in it, there a lot of lines beginning with #
[05:34] <jenda> So, ion, find the one that says uncomment this for Universe and Multiverse
[05:34] <Lord2k> Does Ubuntu have an option during the installation for multibooting Windows / Ubuntu? Or will I have to configure it myself once it is already installed? Sorry if I didn't see this in the documentation.
[05:34] <jenda> ion: and remove the #s
[05:34] <sunshine82> ca n someone look at this file and tell me why im gettin this error and how to fix this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4416
[05:34] <folki> terminal wrote me back: "bash: s/foampeace/folki/: No such file or directory
[05:34] <folki> "
[05:34] <Seveas> Lord2k, it'll detect windows and automatically create a dual-boot setup
[05:35] <Lord2k> Awesome, thanks. :)
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> folki, not that line ... sudo apt-get install anjuta
[05:35] <bLueTeK> Hi everyone
[05:35] <jenda> nalioth: what is the policy on pasting? One line shouldn't matter, no?
[05:35] <nalioth> jenda: channel policy is use a pastebin
[05:35] <Red-Sox> fredforfaen: okay...i figured it out
[05:35] <fredforfaen> Red-Sox cool!
[05:36] <jenda> nalioth: alright...
[05:36] <ion> jenda: there is any text file
[05:36] <fredforfaen> Red-Sox so whats the deal man?
[05:36] <Red-Sox> fredforfaen: rip the songs with soun juicer cd ripper
[05:36] <Seveas> jenda/ion: what are you trying to accomplish? (I'm just in)
[05:36] <jenda> ion: what happens after you enter the password?
[05:36] <jenda> Seveas: stupid repos
[05:36] <ion> jenda: I sent to you my last screen...
[05:36] <bLueTeK> I need to download apache for ubuntu and other programs, the server is offline so I need to download first in other computer to put it there... do you know a place to download apt packets to install them offline? Sorry for my English thanks!
[05:36] <fredforfaen> Red-Sox im not ripping im burning mp3's dude
[05:37] <Seveas> jenda, hint: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> !es
[05:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:37] <Seveas> ;)
[05:37] <ion> jenda: displays sudo: getit: command not found
[05:37] <Red-Sox> fredforfaen: so...you downloaded them in ubuntu?
[05:37] <RehanSAlvi> I dl'ed the Ubuntu ISO for PC and burned the image using Nero, but my laptop won't boot off the CD...any suggestions?
[05:37] <nalioth> ion: you are misspelling your commands
[05:37] <nalioth> ion: it's "G E D I T"
[05:37] <fredforfaen> Red-Sox yeah and no some mp3's are yeares aol
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> ion, i think jenda is going to be crazy ... its gedit ... pls repeat this ... gedit
[05:37] <fredforfaen> old*
[05:37] <Red-Sox> fredforfaen: even easier, then
[05:37] <Red-Sox> fredforfaen: locate them in a file browser
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> RehanSAlvi, you burned as image right ? not as data
[05:38] <jenda> Seveas: Appreciated, but no help :)
[05:38] <ion> jenda: sorry I gonna read more and see what can I do....thaks anyway....
[05:38] <jenda> wickedpuppy: right. getting there
[05:38] <folki> thanks...i am going to try it
[05:38] <RehanSAlvi> wickedpuppy: yeah, as an image, as in I burned the ISO as an image, and after I burned it, when I browse the CD on my computer, I see files and folders
[05:38] <jenda> ion: It's OK
[05:38] <jenda> ion: just be patient
[05:38] <Lk2_> hello! are somebody using ubuntu for amd64?
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> RehanSAlvi, thats right ... now you may have to change ya laptop bios to boot from CD
[05:39] <Lk2_> I'm having problems generating locales with UTF-8 charmap
[05:39] <ion> jenda: I try man I try....
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> ion, pls copy and paste .. pls ...
[05:39] <sunshine82> ca n someone look at this file and tell me why im gettin this error and how to fix this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4416
[05:39] <RehanSAlvi> wickedpuppy: yeah, i put first boot device to CD, and it reads and says non-bootable disk and then goes on
[05:39] <Red-Sox> fredforfaen: then right click, write to disk, and thats it, but i gtg now, ill be on 2morrow if that doesnt work
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> non-bootable disk ? hmms .... well ah .. that i got no idea
[05:39] <jenda> ion: No prob really. Now. Type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" You can copy it from here.
[05:40] <fredforfaen> Red-Sox ill try
[05:40] <Stormx2> less bans for all!
[05:40] <sunshine82> jenda how do u copy from here
[05:40] <Stormx2> oww my hands hurt :(
[05:41] <jenda> sunshine82: select with left mouse button - middle click to paste in Linux
[05:41] <jenda> sunshine82: Who are you? You tried to send me something, no?
[05:42] <sunshine82> jenda nah nah i was just goin say somethin to ya but it alright
[05:42] <olivier> hi everyone, I'd like to use a (french) apple usb keyboard with my ubuntu install, which works, but not perfectly, as some keys aren't at their usual positions, is there a way to redefine the keys of the keyboard?
[05:42] <jenda> ion? There? Did it work?
[05:43] <sunshine82> jenda but i dont have amiddle click
[05:43] <anamaria> how to upgrade from warty to hpary 5.10 from synaptic?
[05:43] <anamaria> hoary5.10
[05:43] <Seveas> anamaria, hoary is 5.04
[05:43] <Seveas> breezy is 5.10
[05:43] <jenda> sunshine82: OK, then try left+right click, if you have that turned on
[05:43] <shredwheat> i'm still wondering how to fix apt-get update with dapper repos. I am getting gpg auth problems.
[05:44] <anamaria> is it posible to 5.10?
[05:44] <ion> jenda: seveas trty to help me now...
[05:44] <bla|patrick> re
[05:44] <Seveas> anamaria, the safe route is upgrading to 5.04 first and then 5.10
[05:44] <jenda> ion: OK.
[05:44] <jessid> hello. some of you know how can i listen a midi in ubuntu?
[05:44] <bla|patrick> help help help
[05:44] <anamaria> ok, how do i do that?
[05:44] <Seveas> but some people have had success with a 4.10 -> 5.10 upgrade directly
[05:45] <ion> jenda: I really appriciate....your help man cheers....
[05:45] <jenda> Seveas: you took over my ion! :)
[05:45] <jenda> ion: np
[05:45] <bla|patrick> i tried to install fglrx drivers from ati
[05:45] <bla|patrick> but it doesnt work
[05:45] <Stormx2> what do I need to view .mov files in firefox?
[05:45] <anathema_> hey does anyone know a good kde news reader?
[05:45] <Seveas> jenda, no offense dude, just didn't want to see either of you getting frustrated ;)
[05:45] <bla|patrick> i used the tool to install it, but the system doesnt recognice fglrx
[05:45] <jenda> Seveas: np
[05:45] <bla|patrick> no hardware acceleration
[05:45] <bla|patrick> and fglrxinfo says followin
[05:45] <bla|patrick> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:45] <bla|patrick> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[05:45] <bla|patrick> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:45] <bla|patrick> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[05:45] <Seveas> anamaria, you open sources.list (sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list) and change warty to hoary everywhere
[05:45] <RehanSAlvi> anyone have any idea why a Ubuntu cd that I made is not bootable?
[05:45] <Seveas> anamaria, then you do sudo apt-get update
[05:46] <Seveas> anamaria, then you do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:47] <Seveas> RehanSAlvi, did you burn the .iso file as an image?
[05:47] <anathema_> no one here knows a good kde news reader?
[05:47] <jessid> how do I listen to a midi in ubutu?
[05:47] <Seveas> jessid, with timidity
[05:47] <nalioth> anathema_: pan
[05:47] <Stormx2> ok how about sound in firefox?
[05:47] <sunshine82> ca n someone look at this file and tell me why im gettin this error and how to fix this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4416
[05:47] <jessid> Seveas thanks...
[05:47] <RehanSAlvi> Seveas: yeah, i took a single ISO file, and used Nero to burn an image, so when I browse the CD now on my regular desktop, I see folders like .disk, doc, dists but when I put that CD in my laptop it says non-bootable CD
[05:48] <Seveas> sunshine82, you're missing the file usbvideo.h:
[05:48] <anathema_> nalioth: pan is for gtk
[05:48] <anathema_> isnt there a equally good kde one?
[05:49] <nalioth> anathema_: perhaps you should ask in #kubuntu
[05:49] <Riddell> anathema_: knode
[05:49] <root____4> is there a way i can restart the ubunt configuration process without having to restart from scratch ?!
[05:50] <Seveas> root____4, sudo base-config
[05:50] <root____4> Seveas: thanks
[05:51] <RehanSAlvi> Seveas: is the fact that my laptops about 6 years old the most likely reason? I suppose I need a bios that supports booting from CD?
[05:51] <ngd> hey guys is there an alternative to using the vesa module for Prophet Kyro graphics cards?
[05:51] <sunshine82> seveas but i dont know how to get it
[05:52] <jenda> Seveas/ion: now I finally see the second screen shot. I thought the prob was something diff.
[05:52] <sunshine82> seveas we may need to go back through the installation again but i dont knwo
[05:52] <bmrtin> i just got ubuntu 5.10 where would i find apt scorces
[05:53] <jenda> bmrtin: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:53] <[A] ndy80> when does OO2 final will be available for Ubuntu?
[05:53] <Seveas> jenda, we've almost solved it already ;)
[05:53] <[A] ndy80> (oo=open office)
[05:53] <eno> Hi!
[05:53] <jenda> Seveas: good
[05:53] <ion> jenda: hold on seveas try to help me now....
[05:53] <jenda> eno: hi
[05:54] <sunshine82> ion:aaaaaaaa
[05:54] <Mabus06> are .run files like, programs you use or are they the files to install a program?
[05:54] <nubbe> xmms flashes sometimes in the taskbar, what should I do?
[05:54] <Seveas> Mabus06, can be both
[05:54] <Seveas> nubbe, flash back at it ;)
[05:54] <jenda> Mabus06: they could be both
[05:54] <nubbe> hhhhh
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> .run files are  a stupid idea. :P heh .
[05:54] <nubbe> been there, done that
[05:54] <sunshine82> seveas do u know how i can get it
[05:55] <nubbe> new ideas?? ;)
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> but  some companies just have to use them sadly.
[05:55] <Seveas> sunshine82, a search for that file gave me nothing
[05:55] <Seveas> what are you trying to compile?
[05:55] <jenda> nubbe: I'm guessing you can fix that within xmms
[05:55] <nubbe> jenda, I've been looking
[05:56] <sunshine82> seveas is it meant to be on the computer or in the webcam folder
[05:56] <nubbe> I checked the forum, nothing I could use
[05:56] <moyogo> hehe dapper drake on slashdot
[05:56] <bmrtin> i just got ubuntu 5.10 where would i find aditinal apt repos
[05:56] <coz> Hello all
[05:56] <trappist> !tell bmrtin about repos
[05:56] <jenda> hi coz, again:)
[05:56] <coz> I have read and tried everything but cannot change my screen resoultions
[05:57] <coz> any ideas?
[05:57] <Seveas> !tell bmrtin about sources
[05:57] <Seveas> !tell cos about resolution
[05:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell coz about fixres
[05:57] <ThomThom> Hi. I'm having some problem connection my Ubuntu installation to the network & internet. (Wireless connection) More detailed info at the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89022 Anyone got any ideas?
[05:58] <eno> does anyone here use drake?
[05:58] <MarcN> eno: I am
[05:59] <eno> MarcN: are you a beta tester?  and if so, what does it entail?
[05:59] <sunshine82> seveas the usbvideo is in the webcam folder
[05:59] <sunshine82> seveas how do we get it out
[06:00] <MarcN> eno: Just change the repositories you use and then: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:00] <k31th> Seveas: watsup!
[06:00] <k31th> want some fish n chi[s ?
[06:00] <nalioth> eno: all you have to do is change your sources.list. and leave any kind of help goodbye until april
[06:01] <folki> Does anybody know what mean this: " no target specified and no makefile found" in Anjuta?
[06:01] <sunshine82> seveas im gettin an error when i try and add the patch http://nw802.sourceforge.net/news.html
[06:01] <RehanSAlvi> how can i test to see if the image i converted into a burn install cd is accurate? I'm unable to boot off it and read something about checksum in the forums
[06:02] <sunshine82> seveas im gettin an error 10 out of 10 hunks ignored -- saving rejects to file nw802.c.rej
[06:02] <sebas_> Hi all together! I'm looking to find a possibility to list files in my root directory that i didn't install with dpkg.
[06:02] <alex_extreme> hi
[06:02] <Mabus06> How do I use .run files?
[06:03] <RehanSAlvi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87079 anyone else heard of this?  I'm having the very same problem
[06:03] <Mabus06> When I try to open it, it tries to open with gedit and fails.
[06:03] <fangorious> other than looking at product documentation or asking the manufacturer, is there a way to find out the sync ranges of a monitor?
[06:04] <vincent_> is there a way to make your linux list you the files after a ls command not in bold?
[06:05] <sunshine82> seveas im gettin an error i dont know if it the same as before http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4418
[06:07] <coz> Hello again
[06:07] <coz>  Well the suggestion for screen resolution did  not work any other suggestions?
[06:09] <nalioth> ask and run
[06:09] <jenda> yup
[06:09] <raven> anyone running E d17
[06:10] <Mabus06> a readme for a program I have says I need gtk+ 1.2, zlib, libxml2, libpng... which ones aren't installed on ubuntu by default?
[06:10] <Mabus06> and where could I find them?
[06:10] <Agrajag> Mabus06: all of them, if you're building from source, and they're all in apt
[06:11] <Mabus06> Agrajag, but it gives me errors when trying to run the program
[06:11] <Agrajag> Mabus06: if you tell us what the erors are you can get help
[06:12] <Agrajag> also what the program is
[06:12] <eno> what do you put into fstab to mount a partition as rw?
[06:12] <Mabus06> ./radiant.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkglext-x11-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:12] <Agrajag> eno: put rw into the options list
[06:12] <eno> I am dumb
[06:12] <thrush> eno: what kind of partition?
[06:12] <fangorious> i can't select a refresh rate higher than 60 with ubuntu booted, but for the same resolution under windows, i can set it up to 100, i think i need to set the monitor sync ranges in xorg.conf but haven't been able to determine what they are
[06:13] <Agrajag> Mabus06: open synaptic
[06:13] <Agrajag> search for "libgtkglext"
[06:13] <Agrajag> install the first package in the list
[06:13] <kapputu> how do I remove this group common applications option?
[06:13] <Mabus06> k thanks Agrajag
[06:15] <mof> hi all
[06:15] <thrush> fangorious: check out wiki.ubuntu.com u prob just need to edit your xorg.conf file
[06:15] <nitrocks> i have a gig usb drive.. when i plug it in, it shows up as a device labled as "removeable drive 984.0 mb".. but when i open it up in nautilus, it says there's only 579 mb free, even with 0 items in the folder, does anyone have any ideas?
[06:16] <Agrajag> fangorious: google for your monitor's make and model, or look in its manual if you have it, for the sync ranges
[06:16] <RehanSAlvi> how do i do an md5 test on an ISO that i downloaded??
[06:16] <RehanSAlvi> i'm a complete newbie to all this and not really sure what to do
[06:16] <Agrajag> nitrocks: any hidden files? do an ls -a to see
[06:16] <Agrajag> RehanSAlvi: md5sum <isofile>.iso
[06:17] <nitrocks> tried that.. nothing
[06:17] <fangorious> Agrajag: i already emailed hp (laptop display) and they gave me a bunch of stats except the sync range :( i'll check out the wiki and keep googling
[06:17] <Seveas> RehanSAlvi, download the md5sums file too and do md5sum -c MD5SUMS
[06:17] <RehanSAlvi> Agrajag: i'm on windows
[06:17] <Agrajag> RehanSAlvi: oh, I'm sure there's a windows program to do it
[06:18] <RehanSAlvi> Seveas: I have a md5sum.txt in the image i burned with a bunch of numbers in one column and file names in the other
[06:19] <systems> why ubuntu release names are two words not just one?
[06:19] <vincent_> how can you make your PC list the things not in bold after executing an ls-command?
[06:19] <vincent_>  it is a total blur on my monitor when I do this
[06:19] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: that is for use from within the installer
[06:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell RehanSAlvi about verify
[06:20] <thrush> nitrocks: if u dont have anything that u mind losing u might try formatting it
[06:20] <Agrajag> vincent_: ls --color=none
[06:20] <RehanSAlvi> nalioth: thanks, but i'm on windows...any way to do it?
[06:20] <Agrajag> RehanSAlvi: get md5sum for windows
[06:21] <sebas_> RehanSAlvi: See http://www.etree.org/md5com.html
[06:22] <RehanSAlvi> sebas_: thanks just got it
[06:22] <vincent_> so the pdflatex file only works under windows, not under linux?
[06:22] <olivier> could someone explain to me how the keyboard configuration can be done? I can't see the link between the files in etc/X11/xkb and the keyboard management app in ubuntu ...
[06:22] <Yulia> is not there proftpd over ubuntu??
[06:23] <RehanSAlvi> sebas_: i'm sorry but i'm a real newbie here...now that i have checksum and i have the ISO file, what can I do?
[06:23] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: yes, use the program you find here http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/
[06:24] <vincent_> Yulia?
[06:24] <vincent_> what is proftpd?
[06:24] <mof> has anybody a working rtl-8189 wlancard under breezy ?
[06:24] <bLueTeK> is there a place to download ubuntu binaries?
[06:24] <vincent_> do you need a different shell to execute LaTeX/MiKTeX exe-files?
[06:24] <nalioth> bLueTeK: use your synaptic
[06:24] <jenda> yes there is. I dunno the URL, though
[06:24] <Yulia> vincent_, proftpd - Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon
[06:25] <sebas_> RehanSAlvi: Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Md5sum . It says: It is commonly used to verify the integrity of files.
[06:25] <nalioth> sebas http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/
[06:25] <bLueTeK> I dont have internet connection with the uBuntu computer, thats why I need to download frm another computer, any other hint? :)
[06:25] <nalioth> bLueTeK: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:26] <bLueTeK> Thank you nalioth
[06:26] <RehanSAlvi> sebas_: i know what md5's purpose is, but I don't know HOW to use it in this situation to check if my ubuntu install is correct, thats what I'm asking
[06:26] <Tronex> I have a kind of tricky problem. I need to get my cryptoflex smartcard working under Ubuntu with a towitoko serial smartcard reader. If it works, I need to configure VPN so that I can authenticate agains a VPN server with my smartcard to create an IPSec tunnel through internet.
[06:26] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: d/l the md5 program from the link i sent you, and run md5.exe filename.iso
[06:27] <RehanSAlvi> nalioth: thank you :)
[06:27] <sebas_> RehanSAlvi: The Wikipedia site says it all: Just do a "md5sum -c somefile.md5" in your commandline program (cmd)
[06:27] <nalioth> sebas_: RehanSAlvi is on windows and has no md5
[06:27] <RehanSAlvi> sebas_: I don't have a .md5 file though...I only have an ISO
[06:27] <sebas_> RehanSAlvi: So you have nothing to check
[06:27] <Tronex> Can anyone give me a hint how to get the smartcard reader running in the first place?
[06:27] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: when you run md5.exe on your iso, it will generate a checksum to compare
[06:28] <Andros> Hola
[06:28] <sebas_> RehanSAlvi: nalioth is right. This will print a digit that you can compare to the one you have on some site.
[06:28] <Andros> quien me puede ayudar?
[06:28] <nalioth> Andros: que idioma?
[06:28] <jenda> language?
[06:28] <Andros> Espaol
[06:28] <bluefrog-10> ubuntu-es
[06:28] <jenda> ah
[06:28] <nalioth> !es
[06:28] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:29] <Andros> gracias
[06:29] <RehanSAlvi> nalioth: great-- I got number, and I'd check that against what now?
[06:29] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: check it against the md5sums on the download page where you got the iso
[06:31] <Andros> nadie responde en el ubuntu-es :(
[06:31] <bluefrog-10> Andros, problema?
[06:31] <Andros> en todo caso es algo de perzonalizar el ubuntu, quiero instalar splashy
[06:31] <sorush20> i can't print in open office write can someone help please.?
[06:31] <sorush20> I get printing error
[06:32] <joh> Uhm, any known AMD Athlon XP issues? cause my /proc/cpuinfo displays 1243.516Mhz instead of the correct 2083Mhz...
[06:32] <bluefrog-10> Andros, splashy?
[06:32] <Andros> y me tira un error de dependencias, pero al instalar la nueva, me sale que la ultima ya esta instalada
[06:32] <Andros> splashy
[06:32] <RehanSAlvi> nalioth, sebas_ : great, thank you for helping me through it...the checksum comes out the same, yet the CD is still not bootable on my laptop.
[06:32] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: burn it as slowly as you can
[06:32] <ceej> hmmmm got an eror while trying to install nvu
[06:32] <ceej> yum ins
[06:33] <ceej> ./nvu-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:33] <Ng> joh: is powernowd running? my athlon64 drops down to about half rate when it's idle
[06:34] <sebas_> RehanSAlvi: How old is your laptop?
[06:34] <RehanSAlvi> sebas_: about 7 years old
[06:34] <joh> Ng: I'm running an Athlon XP 2800+ and my /proc/cpuinfo reports 1243.516Mhz instead of the correct 2083Mhz... Also, it reports the wrong model name (AMD Athlon(tm)).
[06:34] <SGershon> Hellooo! Back Again. My Totem player does not know how to play video nor audio, seems he can get the codecs. As MPlayer is orking perfect, I want to REMOVE Totem. Synaptic says: "This will affect other packages. To be Removed: ubuntu-desktop".
[06:34] <SGershon> Too long?
[06:35] <thrush> SGershon: no problem go ahead and remove
[06:35] <SGershon> Why ubuntu-desktop depends on Totem?
[06:35] <joh> Ng: CPU frequency scaling not supported
[06:35] <SGershon> thrush, thanks.
[06:35] <olivier> isn't ubuntu usualy compatible with .deb files?
[06:35] <sebas_> RehanSAlvi: OK, that might be the problem. You see, only newer computers can boot from cd.
[06:35] <Agrajag> SGershon: alternatively, you can install totem-xine
[06:35] <RehanSAlvi> sebas_: but I installed XP on it from CD
[06:35] <SGershon> thrush, why desktop depends on totem?
[06:35] <Agrajag> Which will play everything, and won't remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:35] <ceej> can anyone understand why i'm getting this error message when i try to run something?
[06:35] <ceej> ./nvu-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:35] <sebas_> RehanSAlvi: OK
[06:36] <bluefrog-10> Andros, no se, proba tu prgeunta a ubuntu-br
[06:36] <jayr> hello ladies and gentlemen
[06:36] <sebas_> RehanSAlvi: Hmmm
[06:36] <Agrajag> SGershon: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage which installs all of ubuntu's desktop software
[06:36] <Andros> ok. gracias
[06:36] <sunshine82> seveas have u figure it out yet
[06:36] <Ng> joh: not sure then, it most certainly does support XPs though. Maybe your motherboard BIOS isn't recognising it - does it identify it correctly by name?
[06:36] <SGershon> Agrajag, totem-xine... will a9 it now.
[06:36] <sebas_> RehanSAlvi: Does it say anything whiles booting or just not start?
[06:36] <gallonegro__> what are the commands to send a dir into the trash using terminal?
[06:36] <RehanSAlvi> sebas_: Non-bootable CD
[06:36] <jayr> I am having trouble installing blender on umbuntu
[06:36] <Ng> gallonegro__: rm -r directoryname
[06:36] <joh> Ng: the BIOS?
[06:36] <RehanSAlvi> sebas_: someone else has the same problem looks like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87079
[06:36] <Ng> gallonegro__: that will delete it
[06:37] <gallonegro__> thank you
[06:37] <Razor-X> RehanSAlvi: have you MD5SUMed the ISO?
[06:37] <Ng> gallonegro__: do you mean the trashcan?
[06:37] <ompaul> ceej, gcc -v please
[06:37] <Ng> wastebasket, rather
[06:37] <joh> Ng: the strange thing is that this has worked correctly before ... :\ don't remember for how long though.
[06:37] <gallonegro__> yah
[06:37] <jayr> the error I get is libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x24
[06:37] <RehanSAlvi> Razor-X: yeah, it checks out fine
[06:37] <ompaul> ceej, does it give any answer
[06:37] <sunshine82> seveas the problem seem to be with this file nw8xx_jpgl.c
[06:37] <Agrajag> RehanSAlvi: what about the CD itself
[06:37] <Ng> gallonegro__: then mv directoryname ~/.Trash/
[06:37] <ceej> ompaul: one sec
[06:37] <Ng> joh: odd
[06:37] <Agrajag> does md5sum for windows allow you to run it on a device?
[06:37] <Razor-X> RehanSAlvi: and just making sure, the CD has multiple directories and files and whatnot, and doesen't just contain an ISO?
[06:37] <RehanSAlvi> Agrajag: how can I check the CD itself?
[06:38] <Razor-X> Agrajag: i'm not too sure on that
[06:38] <Agrajag> well, in linux you'd just do md5sum /dev/cdrom
[06:38] <christianp> hi all
[06:38] <RehanSAlvi> Razor-X: yup, burned the image and the ISO became directories
[06:38] <joh> Ng: checking the BIOS now...
[06:38] <ceej> ompaul: ceej@ceej:~$ gcc -v
[06:38] <ceej> bash: gcc: command not found
[06:38] <Agrajag> You might try md5sum d:\
[06:39] <Agrajag> or whatever your drive is
[06:39] <ompaul> ceej, sudo apt-cache install build-essential << that will sort all that out for you
[06:39] <Razor-X> RehanSAlvi: hmmm, can you try MD5SUMming the drive like Agrajag said?
[06:39] <ompaul> ceej, or I will be very very surprised
[06:39] <sebas_> RehanSAlvi: What files are on the cd if you open it in windows
[06:39] <Agrajag> apt-cache?
[06:39] <ompaul> ceej, sudo apt-get install build-essential << that will sort all that out for you
[06:39] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: boot it and choose "expert install" at that menu, you'll see "check integrity
[06:39] <ceej> ompaul: Thank you, will try
[06:39] <joh> Ng: the BIOS reports the same, so I guess it's a BIOS problem ...
[06:39] <christianp> i just install 5.1. Can somebody hel me in playing MP3 and DivX files? totem doesn't work.
[06:39] <Fietronic> is there a reason why an internet connection would be going very slow under ubuntu?
[06:39] <gallonegro__> thanks i wanted to delte them
[06:39] <sebas_> Razor-X: RehanSAlvi: md5sum is ok
[06:39] <ompaul> ceej, sorry wrong first time
[06:39] <gallonegro__> i got it
[06:39] <ompaul> Agrajag, thanks :-)
[06:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell christianp about mp3
[06:39] <ceej> ompaul: should i do the first or seconed one?
[06:39] <Ng> joh: have a look on the manufacturer's website, they usually have updated releases to support newer processors
[06:39] <psycode> can someone remind me the command to check how much space is left on a device?
[06:39] <ceej> ompaul: k
[06:39] <ompaul> ceej, enjoy
[06:39] <Razor-X> nalioth: the CD refuses to boot
[06:39] <Ng> psycode: df -h
[06:40] <emile_> psycode: df -h
[06:40] <joh> Ng: or it might be the FSB frequency
[06:40] <ken> just wanted to say thx to all the ubuntu support yeaaaaaaaaaaa i got my windows cd's today later people
[06:40] <psycode> Ng, emile - thanks
[06:40] <RehanSAlvi> Agrajag: I did md5sum.exe F:\ and it gave me 3 different sums, one for README.diskdefines, one for md5sum.txt and one for ubuntu
[06:41] <Agrajag> ick
[06:41] <RehanSAlvi> nalioth: i can't even boot it, so i can't choose "expert install"
[06:41] <ceej> ompaul: still getting that same error after it unpacked it all
[06:41] <sebas_> RehanSAlvi: What files are on the cd if you open it in windows
[06:41] <ceej> ;/
[06:41] <Agrajag> sebas_: he burned it correctly
[06:41] <Razor-X> RehanSAlvi: have you tried booting it on other machines?
[06:41] <ompaul> ceej, let me look at that
[06:41] <sebas_> Agrajag: ok
[06:41] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: does the cd drive work at all?
[06:41] <ceej> ceej@ceej:~/download/nvu-1.0$ ./nvu
[06:41] <ceej> ./nvu-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:41] <RehanSAlvi> sebas_: i have folders .disk, doc, isolinux, pool, dists, install, pics, and preseed, and files md5sum.txt, README.diskdefines and ubuntu on the top-level
[06:42] <kapputu> can I ask Remote Desktop questions here?
[06:42] <Razor-X> RehanSAlvi: certain semi-modern machines (not quite old) can boot Windows boot sectors but not newer El-Torito boot sectors
[06:42] <RehanSAlvi> nalioth: yeah, i have XP also on the laptop and it works fine for it
[06:42] <Razor-X> kapputu: if it's about Ubuntu, it's welcome :P
[06:42] <snorks> no, not if you're from Asia
[06:42] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: burn the iso as slowly as you can
[06:42] <LjL> Agrajag, nalioth, sebas_ : myself, i *always* need to try booting my self-burned Ubuntu CDs (or Debian CDs, or Fedora CDs) multiple times before i manage to get past one checksum error or another.
[06:42] <vincent_> so if I go in the /bin directory and make a gedit file with ls ls -l --color=none in it
[06:42] <vincent_> how do I save it as a script file?
[06:42] <ompaul> ceej, have you just run nvu by any chance?
[06:42] <Agrajag> ceej: why don't you just install nvu with apt?
[06:43] <kapputu> Razor-X, I can open a remote desktop connection my windows machine, how do I play a song on the Windows machine such that the song plays on it as if I started it from that machine itself
[06:43] <sebas_> RehanSAlvi: Well then the cd seems to be all good. It must be something about your machine
[06:43] <ompaul> ceej, sudo apt-get install nvu
[06:43] <Dark-druid> vincent_, if it is all right you need to chmod +x the file
[06:43] <Razor-X> kapputu: oooh, i'm not too sure how/if you can push sound through RDP
[06:43] <RehanSAlvi> sebas_: nalioth Razor-X its an install CD, can I try booting it off this main computer of mine without doing any damage to my computer?
[06:43] <ompaul> ceej, if it says it can't find it you need to add the universe repos
[06:43] <Agrajag> ceej: apt has almost all the software you'll ever need
[06:43] <Agrajag> linux isn't like windows where you have to go looking all over for installer files and so on
[06:43] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: sure can, just dont install anything
[06:44] <ompaul> ceej, what does sudo apt-get install nvu say?
[06:44] <ceej> doing it through the terminal?
[06:44] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, local ressources tab in terminal server client gui
[06:44] <sunshine82> im gettin this error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4422
[06:44] <ompaul> ceej, why not :-)
[06:44] <RehanSAlvi> nalioth: great, i'll try that and brb
[06:44] <sunshine82> does anyone know how to fix this
[06:44] <ceej> its installing
[06:44] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, I don't get it
[06:44] <vincent_> Dark-druid, it says -rwxr-xr-x, so... it should be accesible to me!
[06:44] <lesshaste> is there an amd64 channel for ubuntu?
[06:45] <ompaul> ceej, you would be surprised what is available in ubuntu
[06:45] <ceej> ompaul: then i just make a desktop icon for it and add the comannd where it is?
[06:45] <mjr> lesshaste, not a separate one, you can talk amd64/ubuntu stuff here
[06:45] <nalioth> lesshaste: you're in it
[06:45] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, open the terminal server window on your ubuntu and click on the local ressources tab
[06:45] <sebas_> RehanSAlvi: My tip: try again
[06:45] <lesshaste> thx :)
[06:45] <ompaul> ceej, it will be on your menu Applications Internet Nvu you can drag it to the desktop
[06:46] <Agrajag> ceej: you can just copy the icon out of the menu after it's installed if you want one on your desktop
[06:46] <lesshaste> what do I need to do to get wmv9 to play on my and64?
[06:46] <lesshaste> amd64
[06:46] <ceej> ah ok great!! thanks!!
[06:46] <lesshaste> install a special mplayer 32-bit version?
[06:46] <isai> hi
[06:47] <ceej> would this be the same with wine?!
[06:47] <navyn> how can i can my ntfs partition writable.  I can read it just fine, and it even is automounted.  Its a data partition so I'm not worried about destroyed Windows info.  It only has my music on it
[06:47] <Dark-druid> vincent_, should be .. if it dosen't work try adding a #!/bin/sh as the first line of the script
[06:47] <Agrajag> ceej: wine's in there
[06:47] <matija> jh
[06:47] <philippe_> does anybody understand how the network administrator tool work in ubuntu?
[06:47] <lesshaste> navyn: it isn't safe to write to ntfs from linux
[06:47] <matija> hi all
[06:47] <philippe_> the profiling doesn't work
[06:48] <navyn> lesshaste, so can i convert it to ext2 or ext3 without losing the data?  I've got about 40 gigs of data I don't want to lose on there
[06:48] <philippe_> my settings keep disappearing
[06:48] <isai> i can't upgrade hoary to breezy. Try to update 1648 packages (about a gig to dl) in both synaptic & apt-get. I actually download all pkgs and then before installing it deletes some of them. what?
[06:48] <lesshaste> navyn: sorry I don't  understand.  HAve you got rid of your windows install or don't want to use it again?
[06:48] <nalioth> navyn: move all your data somewhere and convert it or leave it in place and read it only
[06:48] <ceej> what would i do to uninstall?
[06:49] <vincent_> this is strange, if you execute a sudo command once you can do it a second time without entering the password
[06:49] <vincent_> that doesn't make any sense!
[06:49] <dustin_> hey i was usint xfce and my panel dissapeared, and i can't restart
[06:49] <vincent_> the linux makers have made a grave mistake here
[06:49] <Agrajag> vincent_: sure it does
[06:49] <lesshaste> what do I need to do to get wmv9 to play on my amd64? DO I need 32 bit mplayer?
[06:49] <bluefrog-10> vincent_, there is a timeout
[06:49] <Dark-druid> vincent_, there is a timeout value
[06:49] <navyn> lesshaste, i had windows and another hd with my data.  i got rid of windows and use ubuntu now, but i still have the data hd on ntfs
[06:49] <vincent_> how many secs?
[06:49] <Agrajag> sudo is not part of linux, iot's part of GNU
[06:50] <lesshaste> navyn: ok.. you have to what nalioth said
[06:50] <Dark-druid> vincent_, the default value is 15 minutes
[06:50] <lesshaste> to do
[06:50] <ceej> ompaul:how would i say uninstall nvu if i wanted too?
[06:50] <vincent_> and GNU is a recursive acronym
[06:50] <Dark-druid> vincent_, you can change the value in the /etc/sudoers file
[06:50] <Agrajag> GNU's Not Useful
[06:50] <vincent_> great
[06:50] <RehanSAlvi> nalioth: Razor-X sebas_ : the CD worked fine on my desktop...I suppose the laptop can't boot off the ubuntu setup, even though it handles WinXP cds just fine
[06:51] <Agrajag> ceej: apt-get remove <package>
[06:51] <sebas_> RehanSAlvi: Try a different method
[06:51] <ceej> ah ok thanks
[06:51] <Agrajag> ceej: man apt-get for more
[06:51] <navyn> nalioth, its 29 gig actually.  won't that take a day to copy over to my linux partition?  I know copying files isn't the fastest thing in linux
[06:51] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: try burning it on the slowest speed your burner burns
[06:51] <Agrajag> a day?
[06:51] <lesshaste> navyn: if you are really crazy you can convert the ntfs drive to fat32 and then use it in linux :)
[06:51] <vincent_> right, so if I sudo chmod +w a file it will become -rwxr-xr-x and if I do it normally it will become -r-xr-xrwx ?
[06:51] <bluefrog-10> navyn, sure a week even... just copy
[06:51] <Ng> navyn: check the wiki for DMA - if you can enable that on disks and cdrom drives then copying stuff will be as quick as anywhere else
[06:51] <nalioth> navyn: no it wont take too long at all
[06:51] <Agrajag> less than an hour unless you have incredibly slow disks
[06:51] <RehanSAlvi> nalioth: does that make a difference if the CD works on a different computer?
[06:51] <ceej> thanks
[06:52] <Terminus> navyn, 29G isn't really a lot. :)
[06:52] <vincent_> or is it not allowed when I do it normally?
[06:52] <Goshawk> is there someone using nano here?
[06:52] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: different cd readers are finicky about burnt cds
[06:52] <nalioth> Goshawk: lots of us, ask your question
[06:52] <Dark-druid> vincent_, im not sure porbably best just try and see :P
[06:52] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, I tried that but I got an error message like bad sound drivers
[06:52] <Dark-druid> you could also start using octal values with chmod to be sure
[06:53] <lesshaste> navyn: it should be 10+MB/s... so that is only a few minutes at worst
[06:53] <Fietronic> hey you guys.. why would  http/internet stuff on ubuntu be going really slow?
[06:53] <Dark-druid> chmod 666 chmod 755 etc
[06:53] <Fietronic> like taking 20 minutes to load google?
[06:53] <Goshawk> using ctrl+w i search for a word, but how to research the same word without doing ctrl+w+return?
[06:53] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, sry then can't help u
[06:53] <Pojo_> Hello, I just finished the first stage of installation of Ubuntu on my G5, and when I restart, it says /bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off. What do I do?
[06:53] <ceej> ompaul:i installed wine also, but that dosn't come up in the menu, is that right?
[06:53] <Goshawk> something like the "n" for less
[06:53] <navyn> i'll look at that then.  hey one more thing.  I have 3 hd's.  one for root which is 160 gig.  the 2nd hd is my /home partition 250 gig, and then i have the 3rd 300 gig drive.  my 3rd drive only mounts after a reboot and i put a cd in the tray.  if i don't  do that, it fails to read the hd.  Does that make any sense?
[06:54] <lesshaste> navyn: no :)
[06:54] <ompaul> ceej, it does appear on the meny
[06:54] <navyn> lesshaste, i didn't think so either.
[06:54] <ompaul> ceej, applicaitons - internet - nvu
[06:54] <lesshaste> navyn: why do you have 160GB for root!
[06:54] <RehanSAlvi> nalioth: ok i'm going to burn it at 4x, any suggestion on the write-method? Track-at-once/disk-at-once ?
[06:54] <Fietronic> PING google.com (64.233.187.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
[06:54] <Fietronic> 64 bytes from 64.233.187.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=40.4 ms
[06:54] <Fietronic> 64 bytes from 64.233.187.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=242 time=50.8 ms
[06:54] <Terminus> navyn, could be some nasty relationship between your cdrom drive and the 3rd hard disk if they're on the same IDE channel. another thing, you don't need 160GB for root.
[06:54] <navyn> i've got 3 drives, and I wanted to use the smallest for root
[06:54] <ceej> ompual:not nvu, i installed wine also but that isn't in the neu
[06:54] <bluefrog-10> navyn 20Gb would be more than enough even if u install lots of stuff...
[06:55] <ceej> ompaul:not nvu, i installed wine also but that isn't in the neu
[06:55] <Fietronic> why is linux being so slow with this? anyone?
[06:55] <lesshaste> navyn: also.. are you saying that if you mount the 3rd drive after booting using the command line it fails?
[06:55] <ceej> :)
[06:55] <nalioth> RehanSAlvi: just as slow as possible
[06:55] <lesshaste> navyn: a drive is different from a partition
[06:55] <lesshaste> navyn: you don't need a whole drive for one partition
[06:55] <lesshaste> navyn: 10GB is probably enough for root
[06:55] <navyn> lesshaste, but isn't anything outside of /home not writable?
[06:55] <lesshaste> navyn: by a normal user you mean?
[06:56] <nalioth> navyn: 10gb is WAY overkill for /
[06:56] <Terminus> and even 128MB is overkill for /boot. :)
[06:56] <lesshaste> nalioth: depends how much software and copies of the kernel source he wants :)
[06:56] <vincent_> right, just try and see and then BOOM, computer is irreversible to pieces
[06:56] <ompaul> ceej, afik you have to config wine and start it from a command line - but I am not 100% sure of that - I am proud to say that I do not use wine :) what program do you want to install, the reason I ask is there may be a suitable one on linux - games typically need a thing called cageda and that costs money
[06:57] <BeGu> Isn't it possible to have cedega without paying also?
[06:57] <BeGu> I mean still legal way
[06:57] <lesshaste> navyn: can you explain your question more fully? It didn't quite make sense
[06:57] <Terminus> BeGu, yeah... cvs sources.
[06:57] <mof> bye
[06:57] <navyn> lesshaste, about the boot problem?
[06:57] <lesshaste> navyn: " but isn't anything outside of /home not writable?"
[06:58] <navyn> lesshaste, i thought that the only thing you could write to in linux was the /home partition
[06:58] <nalioth> navyn: the system owns everything, YOU (the user) aren't supposed to write outside your personal homedir
[06:58] <Pojo_> Hello, I just finished the first stage of installation of Ubuntu on my G5, and when I restart, it says /bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off. What do I do?
[06:58] <nalioth> Pojo_: what model G5?
[06:58] <Pojo_> hold on.
[06:58] <ceej> ompaul: for like dreamweaver, adobephotoshop, flash mx
[06:58] <Dark-druid> navyn, if you have to write to you can write using sudo or the root account
[06:59] <navyn> so what would i do with the other 140 gigs, if i just used 20 for /, and i already am using the 250 gig drive for /home.  What use, would i have for the rest of the drive?
[06:59] <lesshaste> navyn: you would add it to /home
[06:59] <Terminus> ceej, good luck with those. AFAIK, they're terribly unstable on wine.
[06:59] <lesshaste> navyn: you can spread things across drives
[06:59] <Orborde> What package provides command-line svn ?
[06:59] <Agrajag> navyn: you can mount a partition under /home
[06:59] <nalioth> navyn: you can mount it into your /home directory and seamlessly use it
[06:59] <navyn> lesshaste, not sure how to do that?
[06:59] <Agrajag> or you can make it /media/storage or something and make it writeable
[06:59] <nalioth> Orborde: subversion
[07:00] <Terminus> navyn, you might want to take a look at LVM so that you can use all your space as efficiently as possible.
[07:00] <shawnh> hi everybody
[07:00] <navyn> so I could do that with the 300 gig drive also?
[07:00] <Agrajag> yes\
[07:00] <Orborde> nalioth: D'oh :)
[07:00] <navyn> without having to re-install?
[07:00] <nalioth> navyn: w/o having to reinstall
[07:00] <ceej> ;/
[07:01] <navyn> hey i just did the dma thing, and its going to take 45 min to copy my data over.  you guys are awesome
[07:01] <Pojo_> it's a 17-inch flatscreen iMac G5
[07:01] <lesshaste> slightly OT by any recommendations for DVD rw drives?
[07:01] <lesshaste> s/by/but
[07:01] <sunshine82> im gettin this error when make my webcam make[2] : *** [/home/sunshine/nw802-2.4/nw8xx_jpgl.o]  Error 1
[07:01] <sunshine82> how do i fix this file
[07:01] <Dreadnought> hey how do i get on synaptic on my name?
[07:01] <lesshaste> navyn: 45 mins is too long.. something is wrong
[07:01] <nalioth> Pojo_: your machine will not be supported until dapper releases
[07:01] <navyn> nalioth, i couldn't do that with the root partition though could i?  I'd have to reinstall that
[07:01] <lesshaste> navyn: do hdparm -tT
[07:02] <nalioth> navyn: you never have to reinstall anything
[07:02] <Goshawk> sunshine82, put the error in a pastebin and give us the link
[07:02] <Pojo_> :(
[07:02] <Boobek> hi
[07:02] <Pojo_> thx anyway
[07:02] <ompaul> ceej, well for photoshop you can invest a small amount of time and use a native program called Gimp, flash is evil, should only be used for demos (and even then it is still evil) never for web pages, nvu will help you build and I don't know anything about the other
[07:03] <navyn> nalioth, that sounds great , but i have no idea how to do that
[07:03] <Dreadnought> can i get on synaptic when im not the primary account?
[07:03] <Zambba> How can my friend get his Happauge WinTV work? And with which programs?
[07:03] <nalioth> navyn: come in here and ask
[07:03] <Agrajag> Dreadnought: not if that account is not in the admin group
[07:03] <nalioth> Dreadnought: yes, use sudo
[07:03] <lesshaste> navyn: do hdparm -tT
[07:03] <navyn> nalioth, most of the time, everyone blows me off
[07:03] <Dreadnought> how do i change it to one
[07:03] <nalioth> navyn: join #kubuntu-offtopic next time
[07:03] <navyn> lesshaste, i did that but it just lists a ton of different options to use
[07:04] <Agrajag> Dreadnought: su - <primary account name>
[07:04] <Agrajag> then you can use sudo
[07:04] <Dreadnought> ill try
[07:04] <lesshaste> navyn: :)  hdparm -tT /dev/hdaX
[07:05] <lesshaste> where hdaX is whatever your hard drive is called
[07:05] <ceej> ompaul: well thanks for all your help
[07:05] <sunshine82> goshawk http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4422
[07:05] <Dreadnought> sweet
[07:05] <ompaul> ceej, hang on and you may see more useful info
[07:05] <Dreadnought> whats the command to open synaptic now
[07:05] <navyn> nalioth, i tried debian for a little while, but their forums have nothing but a bunch of a -holes in there.  I love Ubuntu so far, but whenever it comes to doing partitoning and stuff in linux, i'm clueless :(
[07:05] <ompaul> ceej, :-)
[07:05] <sunshine82> goshawk i dont think it patchin properly
[07:05] <tryingsomething> anyone know how to set a static ip onto a wireless device?
[07:05] <ceej> ompaul: :)
[07:05] <nalioth> navyn: join #kubuntu-offtopic if you have any questions, it's quieter in there
[07:05] <sunshine82> goshawk these are the instruction http://nw802.sourceforge.net/news.html
[07:05] <christianp> unable to find gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse. What i have to do?
[07:05] <Goshawk> sunshine82, you got this package from internet and tried to compile or have you patched it?
[07:06] <ADjuster> can Linux ubuntu play standard MIDI file?
[07:06] <nalioth> christianp: enable universe and multiverse
[07:06] <navyn> lesshaste, its doing something now
[07:06] <sunshine82> goshawk i got the package from the inteernat then i was told it need a patch to work correctly and i try patchin ti
[07:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell christianp about repos
[07:06] <christianp> nalioth, done!
[07:06] <tryingsomething> anyone know how to set a static ip onto a wireless device?
[07:06] <navyn> nalioth, i'll remember that, thanks
[07:06] <Dreadnought> agrajag: whats the command to get to synaptic
[07:06] <Goshawk> sunshine82, do you have the output of the patch command?
[07:06] <Zambba> How can my friend get his Happauge WinTV work? And with which programs?
[07:07] <Goshawk> sunshine82, here is the problem: /home/sunshine/nw802-2.4/nw8xx_jpgl.h:43:22: usbvideo.h: No such file or directory
[07:07] <Agrajag> Dreadnought: synaptic
[07:07] <Agrajag> well
[07:07] <bluefrog-10> tryingsomething, u can use the networking gui to do that
[07:07] <Dreadnought> thats it
[07:07] <Agrajag> sudo synaptic
[07:07] <Dreadnought> it does nt work
[07:07] <lesshaste> navyn: what is the result?
[07:07] <Agrajag> Dreadnought: you need to use sudo
[07:07] <Dreadnought> it says gtk error
[07:07] <Goshawk> sunshine82, have you installed linux-headers?
[07:07] <trygvebw> What are the package i need to install to achieve RAR support in file-roller?
[07:08] <tryingsomething> i tried the networking gui - it asks me about wep - which im not using
[07:08] <trygvebw> *is
[07:08] <Agrajag> Dreadnought: what do you actually need to do?
[07:08] <Orborde> Geez...every time I do something new I have to download a new stack of software :)
[07:08] <christianp> nalioth, i add all the repositories, but nothink to do
[07:08] <navyn> lesshaste, 6 MB in 3.02 seconds = 1.99 MB/sec
[07:08] <Agrajag> trygvebw: unrar-nonfree
[07:08] <bluefrog-10> tryingsomething, then don't write anything in it...
[07:08] <trygvebw> Agrajag, which repository?
[07:08] <Agrajag> multiverse
[07:08] <tryingsomething> i didnt
[07:08] <trygvebw> thanks.
[07:08] <tryingsomething> it still doesnt work
[07:08] <Dreadnought> get the plugin for .mov.midiand .mpeg
[07:08] <nalioth> christianp: did you update your apt?
[07:08] <lesshaste> navyn: that is seriously bad!
[07:08] <tryingsomething> im using another prog for wpa_
[07:08] <bluefrog-10> tryingsomething, what doens't work?
[07:09] <lesshaste> navyn: are you doing something else on the system at the same time??
[07:09] <tryingsomething> doesnt set ip
[07:09] <sunshine82> goshawk yea i think we sorted that out earlier
[07:09] <christianp> nalioth, of course
[07:09] <navyn> lesshaste, just chatting in here
[07:09] <Agrajag> Dreadnought: don't think there is one for midi, you'd need to use timidity or something
[07:09] <sunshine82> goshawk lets check
[07:09] <lesshaste> navyn: weird.. what is this drive! Is it really old?
[07:09] <Dreadnought> ok that sucks
[07:09] <Agrajag> if you know what packages you need, you can just do sudo apt-get install <packages>
[07:09] <sunshine82> goshawk how do we check
[07:09] <nalioth> christianp: they are there, perhaps search using less terms
[07:09] <Dreadnought> ur command doesnt work
[07:09] <LjL> Agrajag: or, better, aptitude install <packages>
[07:09] <navyn> lesshaste, its my 250 gig drive, less than a yr old
[07:09] <christianp> nalioth, i'll try
[07:10] <Dreadnought> Agrajag: is there another command?
[07:10] <LjL> christianp: what you looking for?
[07:10] <Agrajag> Dreadnought: other than sudo apt-get install <package>? no
[07:11] <christianp> nalioth, no string found for "multiverse"
[07:11] <Agrajag> assuming you know what goes in <packages>
[07:11] <christianp> LjL, i want MP3 and DivX working with my new 5.10 installation
[07:11] <Dreadnought> Agrajag: no to get on synaptic in the first place
[07:11] <Agrajag> Dreadnought: no
[07:11] <LjL> christianp: what's "no string found for multiverse"? do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[07:11] <Dreadnought> Agrajag: go to ur channel and ill show u
[07:11] <lesshaste> navyn: then you have a problem.  Is it IDE?
[07:11] <Agrajag> my channel?
[07:11] <Goshawk> sunshine82, open synaptic
[07:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell christianp about repos
[07:12] <Goshawk> sunshine82, then search for linux-headers
[07:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell christianp about sources
[07:12] <navyn> lesshaste, yes
[07:12] <Goshawk> sunshine82, synaptic is on system administration
[07:13] <Goshawk> sunshine82, system--->administration--->synaptic package manager
[07:13] <Dreadnought> Agrajag: how am i supposed to open synaptic then?
[07:13] <Agrajag> you don't need synaptic to install packages
[07:13] <sunshine82> goshawk linux-headers-2.6.12-9 is installed
[07:13] <Dreadnought> i did before
[07:13] <navyn> lesshaste, when i had windows, file copying was ALOT faster.  But in windows burning DVD's took forever, and in Linux is really fast.  its weird
[07:13] <Agrajag> argh
[07:13] <Agrajag> I told you
[07:13] <Agrajag> sudo apt-get install <packages>
[07:14] <Agrajag> where <packages is a list of packages you want to install separated by spaces
[07:14] <Zeep> Stormx2: If your favorite media player is kaffeine, install kaffeine-mozilla
[07:14] <Dreadnought> i need the name of the package!
[07:14] <Ron_o> It was tough, but I got ubuntu up and running.
[07:14] <Ron_o> I'm a happy camper.
[07:14] <lesshaste> navyn: I can't really understand what is going on. Can you output the full result of hdparm -tT to #flood?
[07:14] <Terminus> Dreadnought, apt-cache search foo
[07:14] <Agrajag> Dreadnought: well if you don't know, how were you going to install them? try apt-cache search <string>
[07:14] <Ron_o> it's bitter-sweet though. :)
[07:14] <Zeep> Stormx2: Oh, Konversation stopped scrolling *g*
[07:14] <Dreadnought> Agrajag: i was gonna search for it
[07:14] <Agrajag> Dreadnought: which is what apt-cache serach does
[07:15] <Agrajag> search even
[07:15] <leandro\weg> I hate my internet..
[07:15] <Terminus> Dreadnought, aptitude is also a nice ncurses front end for apt.
[07:15] <christianp> LjL, i think so: i follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:16] <Goshawk> sunshine82, go to /home/sunshine/nw....../
[07:16] <LjL> christianp: did ubotu tell you about RestrictedFormats?
[07:16] <christianp> LjL, yep
[07:16] <sunshine82> goshawk i got it open
[07:16] <LjL> christianp: hold on a sec
[07:16] <Dreadnought> Agrajag: why cant i just do it on synaptic] 
[07:16] <christianp> so i need multiverse
[07:16] <Agrajag> Dreadnought: I don't know, you said there was an error but you didn't specify it.
[07:17] <sunshine82> goshawk usbvideo.c and usbvideo.h is unknow
[07:17] <Dreadnought> can i paste?
[07:17] <Agrajag> no
[07:17] <Agrajag> use pastebin
[07:17] <Dreadnought> where is it
[07:17] <Agrajag> !pastebin
[07:17] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:17] <sunshine82> goshawk in this http://nw802.sourceforge.net/faq.html it say it shoud be in my kernel
[07:17] <sunshine82> goshawk dont know what that mean though
[07:17] <navyn> is there a way to bookmark rooms in xchat?
[07:17] <Goshawk> wait
[07:18] <Terminus> navyn, you can set autojoin on connect.
[07:18] <LjL> christianp: does "apt-cache search gstreamer0.8-plugins" find it?
[07:18] <Goshawk> sunshine82, wait, i'm thinking for you :D
[07:18] <Dreadnought> Agrajag: see it?
[07:19] <Agrajag> Dreadnought: export DISPLAY=:0.0
[07:19] <Agrajag> then run synaptic
[07:19] <Dreadnought> huh?
[07:19] <Agrajag> run that command.
[07:19] <Dreadnought> in terminal?
[07:19] <Dreadnought> oh duh right
[07:19] <Agrajag> yes, in the same one you su'd to the other user in.
[07:20] <pqx> yes and the xhost :)
[07:20] <Goshawk> sunshine82, one second
[07:20] <Agrajag> pqx: no, he won't need xhost
[07:20] <RustyJuggler> I need some help installing NVIDIA drivers, when I installed them, I can't start X, I get error, something about mismatch between sources and kernel, how can I check this
[07:20] <Agrajag> the connection's coming from localhost still
[07:20] <Goshawk> sunshine82, pvt
[07:20] <Agrajag> and if this doesn't work we're just going to add you to admin
[07:20] <pqx> Agrajag one Question :)
[07:20] <Dreadnought> agrajag: i get the smae thing
[07:21] <Goshawk> sunshine82, i've the answer but you should do some commands on your shell, so open a query with me
[07:21] <pqx> Dreadnought lol
[07:21] <Agrajag> Dreadnought: ok, sudo nano /etc/group
[07:21] <Agrajag> go to the line that starts with admin
[07:21] <ion> sunshine82: I  apologise if disturb you couple of minutes ago...
[07:22] <Dreadnought> whats all this
[07:22] <Agrajag> go to the line that starts with admin
[07:22] <Agrajag> see where it has the name of your primary account?
[07:22] <Dreadnought> yea
[07:22] <Agrajag> put a comma after that, and then your other account name
[07:22] <enigmae> huhu
[07:22] <Agrajag> no spaces
[07:23] <Agrajag> then hit ctrl-o and ctrl-x
[07:23] <karl> was geht hier ab??
[07:23] <nalioth> !de
[07:23] <Goshawk> sunshine82, do you read me in pvt?
[07:23] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[07:23] <Dreadnought> then what
[07:23] <Goshawk> !it
[07:23] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[07:23] <Goshawk> ?????
[07:23] <Goshawk> it's completely wrong!
[07:23] <Goshawk> it's not italian
[07:23] <Aven> pleeeeease help
[07:23] <Agrajag> Dreadnought: close that terminal
[07:24] <Goshawk> it's something crappy
[07:24] <Aven> everytime I create a user, the password always changes by itself..
[07:24] <jenda> Goshawk: it aint'?
[07:24] <Aven> it's frustrating..
[07:24] <Goshawk> nalioth, how to fix it?
[07:24] <RustyJuggler> I need some help installing NVIDIA drivers, when I installed them, I can't start X, I get error, something about mismatch between sources and kernel, how can I check this?
[07:24] <Goshawk> jenda, yep it's wrong
[07:24] <Agrajag> You should be in the admin group now, but you may have to log out and log back in
[07:24] <Goshawk> "es" does not exixst in italian
[07:24] <jenda> est, right?
[07:24] <nalioth> Goshawk: how to fix what?
[07:24] <Dreadnought> ok ill try
[07:25] <Goshawk> jenda, no "est" does not exist
[07:25] <enigmae> can anyone help me? I have downloaded a printer driver (lexmark e320) and I have installed the .deb package. When I start the printer-wizard, the e320 is not in the list of the lexmark printers :( can anyone help?
[07:25] <Goshawk> jenda, ""
[07:25] <Goshawk> !it
[07:25] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[07:25] <jenda> Goshawk: OK - you're the man
[07:25] <olivier> how do I restart X?
[07:25] <Goshawk> :D
[07:25] <SGershon> !pt
[07:25] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:25] <Seveas> olivier, <ctrl><alt><bksp>
[07:25] <N1omi> Goshawk: lexmark is a difficult brand for linux, good luck :(
[07:25] <pqx> Agrajag try rlogin
[07:26] <SGershon> Agrajag, what is better in totem-xine than in MPlayer?
[07:26] <Vespoli> totem looks nicer
[07:26] <Vespoli> :)
[07:26] <Goshawk> do: il canale italiano  #ubuntu-it, parla l
[07:26] <Agrajag> yeah, just the UI really
[07:26] <Vespoli> GUI works better
[07:26] <Goshawk> it sounds good now :D
[07:26] <Vespoli> its xine is a better engine too
[07:26] <Vespoli> because it can play big-edian files
[07:26] <sunshine82> goshawk im writin u in the other room u created
[07:26] <karl> whats going on here??
[07:27] <Vespoli> whilst mplayer cannot
[07:27] <holycow> rofl
[07:27] <Goshawk> sunshine82, ok... gonna see your pvt
[07:27] <holycow> best slashbot post evar:
[07:27] <holycow>  How to make Novell and RedHat _crap_ their pants in four easy releases...
[07:27] <holycow> Obligatory Simpson's quote:
[07:27] <holycow> Best. Distro. Ever.
[07:27] <Piero> is exist a command to find files looking inside them?
[07:27] <Vespoli> lmao
[07:28] <Dreadnought> i got it to work agrajag thnx!
[07:28] <Goshawk> !it
[07:28] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[07:28] <enigmae> can anyone help me? I have downloaded a printer driver (lexmark e320) and I have installed the .deb package. When I start the printer-wizard, the e320 is not in the list of the lexmark printers :( can anyone help?
[07:28] <Aven> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=486598#post486598
[07:28] <fatlum> hey all, I want to have premission on /media
[07:29] <SGershon> holycow, can you postthe link?
[07:29] <fatlum> in wich group to add my user?
[07:29] <holycow> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=168102&cid=14015475
[07:29] <Goshawk> and sunshine82 the "other room" is just a pvt chat
[07:30] <fatlum> anyone?
[07:30] <Chizn> has anyone managed to get 3d studio max runnin in linux?
[07:30] <Goshawk> jenda, is ubotu your bot?
[07:30] <sunshine82> goshawk ohh
[07:30] <Piero> is exist a command to find files looking inside them?
[07:30] <jenda> Goshawk:No, why?
[07:30] <N1omi> ubotu is.. the people's bot! :)
[07:30] <ubotu> N1omi: I haven't a clue
[07:30] <Vespoli> lmao
[07:31] <Vespoli> hello ubotu
[07:31] <Vespoli> xP
[07:31] <jenda> Goshawk:Oh, Isee why. Nope...
[07:31] <Chizn> N1omi, did you know hitler?
[07:31] <Goshawk> jenda, i'm looking for his owner, i wanna fix it
[07:31] <jenda> !ubotu
[07:31] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[07:31] <Vespoli> !seen mais
[07:31] <ubotu> Vespoli: i haven't seen 'mais'
[07:32] <N1omi> Chizn: yes. he was a bit of a butthole, but he was good at watercolors. i liked his mustage though.
[07:32] <Vespoli> hmm ubotu is the ultimate bot
[07:32] <Vespoli> :D
[07:32] <Vespoli> !stats
[07:32] <LjL> nah i've seen much smarter ones
[07:32] <Chizn> BahAraiN!
[07:32] <Madpilot> Goshawk: cafuego_ owns ubotu
[07:32] <LjL> but, as it says, don't play with it in the channel too much ;)
[07:32] <Vespoli> !stat linux
[07:32] <ubotu> Vespoli: I haven't a clue
[07:32] <SGershon> thanks holycow !
[07:32] <ceej> does ubuntu come with any good p2p?
[07:32] <Goshawk> Madpilot, thanks
[07:32] <Vespoli> !stat Goshawk
[07:32] <ubotu> Vespoli: I don't know
[07:32] <Vespoli> hm
[07:32] <theconartist> ceej, nothing does
[07:32] <fatlum> what to do to have premissions on /media/hda*
[07:32] <Goshawk> :D it does not know me :D
[07:33] <holycow> no worries
[07:33] <theconartist> ceej, actually it has bittorent installed by default
[07:33] <Madpilot> ceej: BitTorrent is installed by default...
[07:33] <theconartist> ceej, but you can install it
[07:33] <theconartist> from the repositories
[07:33] <ryanpg> hi all... is xorg X11R7 RC2 available for breezy?
[07:33] <Seveas> ryanpg, Ubuntu has quite a special set of xorg packages
[07:33] <ceej> ah ok
[07:33] <ceej> thanks
[07:33] <Dreadnought> ok how do i put the mp3 plugin into effect
[07:34] <Seveas> to track xorg7 development it might be more useful to use dapper
[07:34] <ryanpg> Seveas, cool... I was hoping for the best of both worlds, stable breezy with nifty xorg 7
[07:34] <Madpilot> Dreadnought: which one? they should work automagically w/ Totem - just restart totem, afaik
[07:34] <jenda> Goshawk: Type "ubotu no, it = ~" replace ~ with the correct stuff
[07:34] <Seveas> ryanpg, breezy X packages are comparable to xorg 7
[07:34] <Goshawk> jenda, thx
[07:35] <ryanpg> Seveas, no.... no Exa :(
[07:35] <jenda> np
[07:35] <Seveas> ryanpg, that's why I said comparable ;)
[07:35] <Dreadnought> i should re download them which one is it
[07:35] <thechitowncubs> How can I extract an RAR with a password?
[07:35] <nalioth> Goshawk: and remember your interactions with the bot are logged
[07:35] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: get the password
[07:35] <ryanpg> Seveas, err... ok :P
[07:35] <Goshawk> nalioth, i'm not a spammer
[07:35] <jenda> !pastebin
[07:35] <ceej> bittorrent doesn't seem to do anything apart from ask me what folder for meta files
[07:35] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:36] <ryanpg> but... is xorg X11R7 RC2 in dapper? and could I pull just that and it's deps into breezy?
[07:36] <jenda> !thanks
[07:36] <ubotu> jenda: de rien
[07:36] <jenda> :)
[07:36] <thechitowncubs> nalioth, nevermind, i didn't see the password field in the extract dialog
[07:36] <Madpilot> ceej: you need to download the .torrent tracker files first...
[07:36] <jenda> !seen me
[07:36] <ubotu> me <n=gigaclon@68.191.5.12> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 17d 22h 44m 3s ago, saying: 'try it now'.
[07:36] <SGershon> Fast Question: How to Edit the "Applications" menu?
[07:37] <Seveas> jenda, no playing with the bot
[07:37] <Vespoli> !thanks
[07:37] <ubotu> Vespoli: no problem
[07:37] <Vespoli> :P
[07:37] <jenda> Seveas: sorry. Couldn't resist
[07:37] <Seveas> SGershon, apps -> system tools -> menu editor
[07:37] <Madpilot> SGC|Work: right click on it, pick "Edit Menu"
[07:37] <ceej> Madpilot:how would i do that?
[07:37] <bluefrog-10> SGershon, applications menu editor
[07:37] <Chizn> does dapper drake have any added wi-fi support?
[07:37] <Chizn> nalioth, i think that was uncalled for
[07:37] <Seveas> Chizn, not yet
[07:37] <Madpilot> !tell ceej about bittorrent
[07:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Chizn about conduct
[07:38] <Seveas> Chizn, not yet <-- that was refering to wifi
[07:38] <SGershon> Seveas, bluefrog-10, Thanks! I forgot where it was.
[07:38] <Chizn> nalioth, i didnt exactly get warned did i?!
[07:39] <Chizn> one single thing like that n i get the boot.. thats brilliant.. i hope you sleep well tonight..
[07:39] <Dreadnought> how do i get totem to play mp3s?
[07:39] <Goshawk> ubotu no, it = il canale di ubuntu in italiano  #ubuntu-it. Questo  un canale generale e la lingua usata  l'inglese. Grazie...
[07:39] <ubotu> Goshawk: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[07:40] <Goshawk> uhm... ubotu....
[07:40] <Goshawk> you are a bad bot :D
[07:40] <flodine> has anyone got artwiz font working in breezy?
[07:40] <Seveas> ubotu no, it is <reply> Il canale di ubuntu in italiano  #ubuntu-it. Questo  un canale generale e la lingua usata  l'inglese. Grazie...
[07:40] <ubotu> i'm not going to learn illegal characters, Seveas
[07:40] <thrush> !bad
[07:40] <ubotu> thrush: Wish i knew
[07:40] <Goshawk> no... it's all ok... querying cafuego_ with the new message
[07:40] <Seveas> Goshawk, ubotu can't handle ''
[07:41] <Seveas> ubotu no, it is <reply> Il canale di ubuntu in italiano e #ubuntu-it. Questo e un canale generale e la lingua usata e l'inglese. Grazie...
[07:41] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[07:41] <Dreadnought> does any one know how to get the plugin?
[07:41] <Goshawk> Seveas, "" is "to be" in italian... So how do you say #ubuntu-it is the italian channel?
[07:41] <Seveas> Goshawk, I changed  to e
[07:42] <Seveas> I hope that does not change the meaning too much :)
[07:42] <Goshawk> uhm... arg....
[07:42] <Goshawk> yes it changes
[07:42] <SGershon> Seveas, :) "e" = "and", I believe
[07:42] <Goshawk>  is "to be" and "e" is "and"
[07:42] <Madpilot> !mp3
[07:42] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:42] <Agrajag> maybe e` ?
[07:42] <Seveas> lol
[07:42] <Madpilot> Dreadnought: see ubotu above ^^^ re: mp3
[07:42] <Goshawk> ok i'll do a better message
[07:42] <SGershon> Agrajag has a point.
[07:42] <Seveas> then cafuego_ needs to make the bot unicode-aware :)
[07:42] <Goshawk> without using ""
[07:42] <SGershon> I think e' is fine, isn't it Goshawk ?
[07:43] <Seveas> Goshawk, a new message would be great
[07:43] <dustin_> hey why should i dist upgrade to dapperdrake?
[07:43] <pqx> Agrajag u prv ?
[07:43] <Agrajag> what
[07:43] <pqx> in privat?
[07:43] <Seveas> pqx, please try to speak english in here
[07:43] <Agrajag> ?
[07:43] <Goshawk> SGershon, Seveas my brain is working :D
[07:44] <SGershon> dustin_, you don't have to. It is a pre-release, on Beta.
[07:44] <dustin_> ahh
[07:44] <ryanpg> hmm... ok how bout: How can I find out what version of xorg is in dapper?
[07:44] <Seveas> ryanpg, it'll be xorg 7 when it's released
[07:44] <SGershon> dustin_, you do it if ou want. But be prepared for issues and occasional bugs.
[07:44] <ryanpg> Seveas, and now?
[07:45] <Seveas> !info xserevr-xorg dapper
[07:45] <Seveas> !info xserver-xorg dapper
[07:45] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server (dummy package)), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (dapper), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 700 kB
[07:45] <ryanpg> Seveas, ty
[07:45] <pqx> Agrajag I want to reinstall windows i got the recovery disk but nothing at all error 17 what I can Do then ?
[07:46] <Agrajag> I don't know anything about windows.
[07:46] <Seveas> pqx, this is not #windows
[07:46] <trincamckee> whats the name of the find diles app that comes with gnome?
[07:46] <Grug> lol
[07:46] <trincamckee> diles - files
[07:46] <Seveas> of you boot from the windows install cd you can let it overwrite ubuntu
[07:46] <pqx> i know :) #ubuntu
[07:46] <Ribs> trincamckee: gnome-search-tool
[07:47] <trincamckee> tks
[07:47] <Madpilot> Seveas: nice reason for kicking... :)
[07:47] <Seveas> Madpilot, not at all...
[07:47] <Seveas> requesting a kick is a better reason...
[07:48] <SGershon> Seveas, Hope you don't mind a question: What is your 'role' on the Ubuntu community? Are you one of the Developers?
[07:48] <Madpilot> Seveas: I meant the "Die f*@#n spambot, die!!" comment
[07:48] <Goshawk> ubotu no, it = Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese, Grazie...
[07:48] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Goshawk
[07:48] <Seveas> Madpilot, ahh :)
[07:48] <Goshawk> !it
[07:48] <ubotu> Il canale di ubuntu in italiano e #ubuntu-it. Questo e un canale generale e la lingua usata e l'inglese. Grazie...
[07:48] <steve__> I'm looking for the default esd.conf, can someone help me out?
[07:48] <Madpilot> Goshawk: use "ubotu, no it is <whatever>"
[07:48] <Seveas> Goshawk, use 'is' instead of '='
[07:49] <Goshawk> ubotu no, it is Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese, Grazie...
[07:49] <ubotu> Goshawk: what are you talking about?
[07:49] <Seveas> SGershon, I am a community member, mainly active with IRC support
[07:49] <ryanpg> !info xserver-xorg breezy
[07:49] <pqx> Seveas
[07:49] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server (dummy package)), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (breezy), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 700 kB
[07:49] <Secreth`X> Are there some programs around like a sidebar or something, for cheering up gnome?
[07:49] <N1omi> who knew ubotu was multilinqual?
[07:49] <nalioth> Goshawk: the string "it" is special to ubotu
[07:49] <dustin_> Secreth`X, check out gdesklets
[07:49] <nalioth> Goshawk: the owner may have to change it
[07:49] <Secreth`X> dustin_: k
[07:49] <ryanpg> hmm that's interesting "<ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait."
[07:50] <dustin_> i know i was able to apt-get it but you have to go to the gdesklets site to downlaod some
[07:50] <Goshawk> nalioth, yep but before Seveas did it
[07:50] <jenda> Anyone here know about xmodmap?
[07:50] <SGershon> Seveas, talk about IRC support. I'm about at GMT+2, and there's barely a time I enter that you are not in the channel.
[07:50] <nalioth> Goshawk: @somehow i suspect seveas may know something
[07:50] <steve__> I'm looking for a default esd.conf, does anyone know where I can find it?
[07:50] <jenda> !xmodmap
[07:50] <ubotu> jenda: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:50] <SGershon> How many hours you do IRC a week? Just out of curiosity?
[07:51] <dustin_> ----- about 8
[07:51] <Goshawk> !it
[07:51] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese, Grazie...
[07:51] <Goshawk> ok now it's good :D
[07:51] <Goshawk> it's changed
[07:51] <SGershon> Goshawk, :)
[07:51] <Goshawk> thanks people
[07:51] <jenda> Goshawk: Cool
[07:51] <Seveas> yeah, I did that *outside the channel* :)
[07:51] <SGershon> Let's check the others:
[07:51] <SGershon> !es
[07:51] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:52] <jenda> !cz
[07:52] <ubotu> jenda: I give up, what is it?
[07:52] <nalioth> !botabuse
[07:52] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[07:53] <Dreadnought> what do i do when this happens             andrew is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[07:53] <Dreadnought> andrew@ubuntu:~$
[07:53] <Seveas> Dreadnought, only the first user you create can use sudo unless you enabled it for other users
[07:53] <Dreadnought> tell me how to enable it
[07:54] <Seveas> as the first user you created, you do: sudo adduser andrew admin
[07:54] <dustin_> how do i configure xsterm?
[07:54] <dustin_> xterm
[07:55] <jenda> Anyway. Anyone know why my keyboard refuses to work properly after I switch layouts with xmodmap?
[07:56] <Terminus> dustin_, create the .Xdefaults file i think. you can reload it with xrdb. man xterm for more info.
[07:56] <Dreadnought> in the terminal of the primary user seveas?
[07:56] <Seveas> Dreadnought, yes
[07:56] <Dreadnought> k
[07:56] <dustin_> ahh
[07:57] <christianp> ok, now my totem plays MP3, but i only hear .avi audio (i display nothing)
[07:57] <Terminus> christianp, sounds like you don't have the video codecs.
[07:58] <SGershon> What is the best way to separate the partitions? I have one on "/", and other on "/home", but I don't knw if it is ideal...
[07:58] <pqx> Seaveas i want to download windows but i have ubuntu for now :)
[07:58] <christianp> Terminus, i installed w32codec, what other?
[07:58] <Goshawk> SGershon, i've the same
[07:58] <christianp> it's a divx
[07:58] <Goshawk> SGershon, and it's good for me
[07:58] <Goshawk> SGershon, if the system broke my data is not corrupted
[07:58] <nvez> SGershon, It's good.. as long as you gave a good swap space, too.
[07:59] <SGershon> Goshawk, thanks.
[07:59] <Terminus> christianp, are you using totem with the gstreamer backend? if so, you probably need gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse. i replaced mine with totem-xine though because of audio synchronization issues.
[07:59] <SGershon> nvez, I do't remember how many swap... How can I check?
[07:59] <Goshawk> SGershon, yep nvez is right, swap should be at least as the ram, isn't it?
[07:59] <jenda> Does anyone know what package xmodmap layouts are found in?
[07:59] <nvez> SGershon, I'm not running Linux right now but...
[08:00] <dustin_> is it a big deal to use breezy deb//html sources for my apt-get if i'm using hoary
[08:00] <nvez> dustin_: Not really, but it's not recommanded, you'll have probably alot of dependency problems.
[08:00] <Terminus> ubotu, tell christianp about restricted
[08:00] <Goshawk> SGershon, System-->administration-->disks
[08:01] <dustin_> ahh
[08:01] <dustin_> how do i dist upgrade to breezy?
[08:01] <Goshawk> SGershon, you can also type "df" in command line, but swap is not shown
[08:01] <Goshawk> dustin_, read the topic
[08:02] <Goshawk> Upgrading to Breezy? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:03] <SGershon> Disk Manager takes long to load...
[08:03] <jenda> I need someone, anyone at all, to send me this file, you all have it: /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.dvorak
[08:03] <Goshawk> SGershon, in my amd64 1700mhz it wants few seconds
[08:04] <Terminus> jenda, i think you want to run setxkbmap dvorak, not xmodmap. :)
[08:04] <SGershon> Goshawk, It's taking more than a minute... Something's wrong?
[08:04] <jenda> Terminus: What's the difference? I've been using xmodmap for a while (semi-successfully).
[08:04] <Goshawk> SGershon, what's you pc?
[08:05] <SGershon> Toshiba M40.
[08:05] <Terminus> jenda, i don't claim to understand xmodmap, but i'm assuming that you just want to use dvorak, right?
[08:05] <SGershon> But I've closed it, unmountd DiskOnKey, and it opened in nanoseconds.
[08:05] <Goshawk> :D
[08:06] <jenda> Terminus: not really. I have my own modified version, and I didn't keep a backup. Now I want to switch back to normal dvorak for a second.
[08:06] <Terminus> jenda, xmodmap is for modifying keymaps while setxkbmap will simply set the keymap to what you want.
[08:06] <Terminus> jenda, oh... i'll send it to you then.
[08:06] <jenda> Terminus: Thanks
[08:06] <SGershon> Goshawk, nvez, I have 2Gb swap space. Too much?
[08:06] <nvez> Unless you're missing disk space
[08:06] <nvez> The bigger, the better. =)
[08:07] <dustin_> hey i use to like gnome, but now i hate it please help me come back to my sences
[08:07] <Goshawk> SGershon, what's your hd size? maybe in future you will need it but as nvez says too much is better than none :D
[08:07] <Ribs> dustin_: Why do you hate it?
[08:07] <pqx> Terminus I'm new with linux and I will like to reinstall windows when I reboot my pc I reboot from CD-DVD driver with the recovery disk for windows I fallow the instruction and then  I get a error # I will like to ask is in the air any posible way to reinstall xindows XP and then how pls step by step  thank you
[08:08] <jenda> Terminus: It's not coming... You think you could put it in the pastebox?
[08:08] <Terminus> jenda, if you can't receive it, then that means that my dcc is screwed up coz i'm behind a NAT and i'm too lazy to open a few ports.
[08:08] <SGershon> My HD is 80Gb. But I have 60Gb for Windows (Meanwhile...)
[08:08] <poningru> pqx: whats the error say?
[08:08] <elad`> Hey, is there any way to access a machine running WinXP with anything like SSH?
[08:08] <SGershon> "/" have 5Gb, only 1Gb free.
[08:09] <thrush> SGershon: i hardly ever really touch swap dunno why youd  need 2gigs
[08:09] <hubiere> est-ce que ca parle francais ici?
[08:09] <SGershon> "/home" has 6Gb, with 5.8Gb free.
[08:09] <Terminus> jenda, http://pastebin.com/426872
[08:09] <pqx> poningru thank you error 17 samtimes the error no. changes
[08:09] <dustin_> i can't configure the things i want to and it seams heavy
[08:09] <Madpilot> !fr
[08:09] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:09] <SGershon> thrush, neityher do I. I just made some crazy logics when installing, maybe iI need to change that now.
[08:09] <hubiere> merci
[08:10] <jenda> Terminus: thanks a million
[08:10] <Mabus06> how do I get flash to work? I installed the flash plugin for mozilla, still doesn't work
[08:10] <poningru> pqx: hmm thats weird
[08:10] <nvez> Mabus06: Define "Doesn't work".
[08:10] <Terminus> pqx, if you're ok with wiping the entire drive, bootup from a rescue cd like knoppix or slax, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdX count=1, and then install windows.
[08:10] <Terminus> jenda, np. :)
[08:10] <jinroh> Ubuntu 5.10, Firfox 1.0.7, Samsung ML-1651N,  Unix Printer LPD connection:  Can not print in firefox.  No problem printing in other applications. Any ideas how I can troubleshoot this problem. (i.e. logs to review)
[08:11] <Dreadnought> thank u
[08:11] <Dreadnought> what was that all about
[08:11] <olivier> i've played a bit with my the xkb config files, and now the shift key doesn't work anymore ... anyone knows how to restore everything in /etc/X11/xkb
[08:11] <ryanpg> oh... I need some opinions here... I'm running gentoo because I (wrongly) assumed it would be easy to install custom packages from source, ubuntu seems to be actually more appropriate for this purpose, am I wrong?
[08:11] <Mabus06> when I go to sites that require flash, nvez, it tells me to get flash
[08:11] <nvez> Tried reinstalling it?
[08:11] <Goshawk> SGershon, so if you have only 20 gb in total, 2 gb for swap is too much, but if you can hold your data in /home it's good when you need more space you can resize the swap and create a new partittion
[08:11] <tritium> olivier, always make backups when modifying system files
[08:12] <dustin_> hey is there a program like streamtuner for strreaming tv?
[08:12] <nvez> Google, dustin_. :)
[08:12] <pqx> Terminus I have no idea what u have just said sorry
[08:12] <ryanpg> I mean, if I build a lot from source I can use alien or checkinstall to create debs yes?
[08:12] <jorge_> !ubotu tell pqx about repos
[08:12] <Mabus06> I just installed it, nvez
[08:12] <tritium> ryanpg, use checkinstall, yes
[08:12] <olivier> tritium, : any other advice (sorry, can't make the interrogation sign)
[08:12] <Dreadnought> ubotu: tell me about mp3s
[08:12] <Goshawk> SGershon, or... do all from scratch (is it written right?) using lvm (Logical Volume Manager) that is able to resize/modify partitions after that they are done :D
[08:12] <jorge_> you have to say
[08:13] <jorge_> !ubotu tell Dreadnought about mp3s
[08:13] <Terminus> ryanpg, AFAIK, gentoo is the only source-based distro... unless you're talking about packages that you're making yourself.
[08:13] <jorge_> !ubotu tell Dreadnought about restricted
[08:13] <sunshine82> ok im trying to set up my webcam this is the error im gettin http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4422
[08:13] <nvez> pqx, He said if you are okay/accept to wipe all of your data, download a rescue disk such as knoppix (google) and then execute the command "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdX count=1" and install windows.
[08:13] <jorge_> IT'S ME BLANK! :D :D
[08:13] <ryanpg> Terminus, I am talking about compiling my own packages right from the developers source
[08:13] <lightsource> I hadn't been into ubuntu os in a while, and I came back, and now I can't find my mounted music drive. how do i mount the drive?
[08:14] <Dreadnought> i got it jeez
[08:14] <tritium> olivier, which file(s) did you modify?
[08:14] <poningru> lightsource: it should automount
[08:14] <poningru> lightsource: what ubuntu are you running?
[08:14] <Goshawk> lightsource, poningru maybe it's shutted down
[08:14] <poningru> and where is your music drive?
[08:14] <iwasjusthelpingd> :(
[08:14] <olivier> about all xfree86 files in xbd (keycodes, keymap) and the "fr" file in symbols
[08:14] <Goshawk> lightsource, maybe you have to replug it again
[08:14] <Terminus> ryanpg, what's wrong with emerge? i really can't say anything about compiling packages on binary distros since i've never had the need to do so.
[08:15] <sunshine82> this is the instruction ive got still need help gettin the error above http://nw802.sourceforge.net/news.html
[08:15] <tritium> olivier, sudo apt-get install --reinstall xkeyboard-config
[08:15] <lightsource> poningru: i'm running Breezy Badger... I think thats what its called.
[08:15] <lightsource> 5.04
[08:15] <poningru> right
[08:15] <lightsource> Goshawk: what shut down?
[08:15] <poningru> where is your music drive?
[08:15] <dustin_> isn't 5.04 hoary?
[08:15] <poningru> like another hd?
[08:15] <ryanpg> Terminus, emerge/portage is great... sometimes however I want newer packages, I want my distro to track what I've installed from source
[08:16] <lightsource> Yea yea. Hoary.
[08:16] <poningru> oh
[08:16] <iwasjusthelpingd> hey seveas, can you please unban blank, i was just trying to help dreadnought
[08:16] <poningru> lightsource: yeah its not going to automount
[08:16] <Pupeno> What program do you recommend to rip a DVD to have the video as a file ? possibly transcodding it to make it smaller.
[08:16] <poningru> I would upgrade to breazy
[08:16] <ryanpg> Terminus, ifaik alien and checkinstall can do this for ubuntu
[08:17] <iwasjusthelpingd> seveas?
[08:17] <olivier> tritium, thanks, about to restart x
[08:17] <lightsource> how do I do that?
[08:17] <iphopper> mind if i paste a question i posted on the efnet ubuntu channel?
[08:17] <caonex> anybody here with amd64 getting problems with firefox?
[08:17] <Seveas> iwasjusthelpingd, don't avoid bans
[08:17] <tritium> olivier, let me know how that works out
[08:17] <poningru> iphopper: go for it and dont ask to ask anymore please
[08:17] <iphopper>  can someone help me with mounting a samba share?
 i've connected to server, and the folder shows on the gnome desktop.  i try to play an mp3 file through rhythmbox, it's not an audio stream according tot he app.
 and xmms shows the song name, just plays nothing.
 sudo mount shows connected devices, but makes no mention of the samba.
[08:17] <iphopper>  can someone help me with mounting a samba share?
 i've connected to server, and the folder shows on the gnome desktop.  i try to play an mp3 file through rhythmbox, it's not an audio stream according tot he app.
[08:17] <iwasjusthelpingd> Seveas, can you please unban me (blank), I was just trying to help dreadnought :'(
 and xmms shows the song name, just plays nothing.
[08:17] <Janni> how do I get IP with DHCP with a 8139TOO driver with 5.10 ?, it's just no response
[08:17] <ryanpg> Terminus, assuming other people occasionally build packages from source, I wanted to gather opinions on how well these tools work in ubuntu
[08:17] <Seveas> rem2 iwasjusthelpingd
[08:17] <iwasjusthelpingd> I was just trying to help seveas, i need this channel for help, why do you ban me :'(
[08:17] <lightsource> so what do I do to mount the hard drive i forgot how to do it.
[08:17] <Terminus> ryanpg, i see... i guess you're talking to the wrong guy. i'm not really a bleeding edge person, and i always stick to the distro's repos. for gentoo ~x86 has been more than enough for me.
[08:17] <Goshawk> lightsource, my mp3 player shuts down when it's connected to my pc for a while, so i disconnect it from the usb port and plug it again and it powers on and it's mounted
[08:17] <Pupeno> What program do you recommend to rip a DVD to have the video as a file ? possibly transcodding it to make it smaller.
[08:18] <Goshawk> Pupeno, dvd::rip?
[08:18] <somebodyhelpme> how can i request an unban, I'm sorry, but I dont know what I did wrong, I was just trying to help that guy
[08:18] <CarlFK> is the "PC Speaker Driver" included in the Ubuntu kernel/modules? http://www.geocities.com/stssppnn/pcsp.html
[08:18] <poningru> Pupeno:  kd3
[08:18] <Terminus> lightsource, mount /dev/$device /mnt/point
[08:18] <Dreadnought> help me with wat iwasjusthelpingd
[08:18] <CarlFK> poningru: don;'t you mean k3b ?
[08:18] <Janni> how do I get IP with DHCP with a 8139TOO driver with 5.10 ?, it's just no response
[08:19] <lightsource> Terminus, how do I see the list of drives I have?
[08:19] <ryanpg> Terminus, well I also use a lot of esoteric audio stuff... but I'll wait for others to chime in on the issue
[08:19] <olivier> tritium, : still no luck, should i reboot , btw, i'm getting an error popup from xkb when x starts now
[08:19] <poningru> err yeah
[08:19] <Terminus> lightsource, fdisk -l i think.
[08:19] <Yulia> when i start nfs it fails, and i cant find information about whats happening? Any help
[08:20] <tritium> olivier, you can also try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xkeyboard-config
[08:20] <SGershon> Weird alert: Friday I set LAMP working, but today Apache don't know how to treat *.pph files. Help?
[08:20] <Pupeno> poningru: I can't find any app by that name.
[08:20] <Dreadnought> there u go!
[08:20] <CarlFK> Yulia: what do you mean "it fails"
[08:20] <Goshawk> lightsource, df from command line
[08:20] <CarlFK> Pupeno: k3b
[08:20] <lightsource> lmao
[08:20] <lightsource> nevermind guys
[08:20] <Yulia> root@makina:/mnt# /etc/init.d/nfs-common start
[08:20] <Yulia>  * Starting nfs statd...                                                                                             [fail] 
[08:20] <nalioth> Dreadnought: /msg nickserv help register
[08:20] <lightsource> I just had to mount it int he little toolbar
[08:21] <tritium> olivier, other than that, I suggest using dpkg -S </etc/X11/xkb/insert_path_to_file_you_modified_here> to find out if you need to reinstall/reconfigure any other packages
[08:21] <CarlFK> Yulia: did you add lines to /etc/exports ?
[08:21] <Yulia> CarlFK, of course.
[08:21] <Dreadnought> huh
[08:21] <olivier> thanks will try that
[08:21] <Terminus> Yulia, are you running portmapper?
[08:21] <Yulia> CarlFK,                portatil(rw,no_root_squash)
[08:21] <Yulia> Terminus, whats?
[08:21] <N1omi> what's the installation path of firefox?
[08:22] <nalioth> N1omi: /usr/bin/firefox
[08:22] <CarlFK> wait... you don't start -common...  try /etc/.../nfsd start
[08:22] <Terminus> Yulia, you need it to map the RPC ports for NFS.
[08:22] <Goshawk> bye all
[08:22] <Pupeno> CarlFK: how do you rip a DVD to a smaller file with k3b ?
[08:22] <Yulia> Terminus, what do i need? portmap package?
[08:22] <CarlFK> Yulia: /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start
[08:23] <nalioth> Pupeno: you dont. use mencoder or dvdrip
[08:23] <CarlFK> Yulia: you dont 'need' portmap depending on something in /etc/exports
[08:23] <N1omi> nalioth: WARNING: /usr/bin/firefox is not a directory
[08:23] <Yulia> CarinArr, this fails.
[08:23] <Terminus> Yulia, yep. portmap. check if /etc/init.d/portmap exists.
[08:24] <Pupeno> nalioth: mencoder is too unfriendly. I'll try dvdrip.
[08:24] <sunshine82> how do i openn a bz2 file
[08:24] <CarlFK> Yulia: but I forget what it is, and that won't matter until you try to connect a client to the server
[08:24] <sunshine82> ok im trying to set up my webcam this is the error im gettin http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4422
[08:24] <nalioth> N1omi: nope, it's not a directory, it's a binary file
[08:24] <sunshine82> this is the instruction ive got still need help gettin the error above http://nw802.sourceforge.net/news.html
[08:24] <tritium> sunshine82, bzip2 -d or bunzip2 <filename>
[08:24] <kyncani> Pupeno: or acidrip ;)
[08:24] <Zambba> My friend has a shorewall installed by his friends. How can he allow traffic into port 22 (sshd)?
[08:25] <Terminus> CarlFK, AFAIK, the server must be running portmap.
[08:25] <N1omi> nalioth: that's strange, i'm trying to install flash with the flashplayer installer: Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[08:25] <N1omi> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla)
[08:26] <flodine> does anyone have a wireless 802.11 linksys card working with breezy
[08:26] <N1omi> nalioth: maybe it's /usr/bin ?
[08:26] <nalioth> N1omi: ah, you want /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[08:26] <CarlFK> Terminus: na, I forget to turn it on all the time - i figure it out when it takes over 30 sec for a client to connect
[08:26] <kapputu> why do windows hide behind the taskbar? For e.g. when I open xchat, the ok/cancel buttons are behind the taskbar
[08:26] <nalioth> N1omi: you need to be specific  :)
[08:26] <sunshine82> ok the last instructio i got off goshawk was to  ok so download the kernel from www.kernel.org get those files and put them in the right directory ive downloaded the first on it a patch but i dont know what to do with it because he gone e said he had to leaver
[08:27] <CarlFK> Terminus: I asked why it wasn't installed/turned on automatically, and was told that it isn't always needed.
[08:27] <caonex> how can i change the locale for the console and how can i activate the mouse in the console?
[08:27] <kapputu> also why does the File Selector dialog in Firefox different from other distros?
[08:27] <Terminus> CarlFK, i see... i guess i'm wrong then. :)
[08:27] <tritium> sunshine82, ubuntu provides linux-source packages.  You don't need to download off of kernel.org
[08:28] <HappyFool> caonex: i used to use an app called 'gpm' to use the mouse in the console; i see a gpm package in the repositories
[08:28] <sunshine82> tritiium there is a problem im tryin to set up my webcam but im gettin this error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4422
[08:29] <Terminus> CarlFK, seems it's still a dependency of nfs-kernel-server though... i guess Yulia was just starting the wrong script. :)
[08:29] <N1omi> nalioth: not a directory, neither is /usr/lib/firefox/plugins :/
[08:29] <caonex> HappyFool, i know about that i used to use that in debian, however, it says is obsolete, so what is used instead?
[08:29] <kapputu> I don't like the save file dialog in firefox where it does not, by default, open up a window listing the drives
[08:29] <nalioth> N1omi: ?
[08:29] <Yulia> Terminus, sorry?
[08:30] <HappyFool> caonex: where do you see that it's obsolete?
[08:30] <N1omi> nalioth: WARNING: /usr/bin/mozilla/plugins/ is not a directory.
[08:30] <caonex> HappyFool, when i installed it last time
[08:30] <sunshine82> tritium we was tryin to figure out what was wrong because i got these instruction http://nw802.sourceforge.net/faq.html and i cant find usbvideo.h on my computer
[08:30] <N1omi> oooh i'm sorry ^_^
[08:30] <nalioth> N1omi: drop the trailing /
[08:30] <Dreadnought> how do i get to the   Blackdown Java 1.4 installer
[08:31] <caonex> HappyFool, when i ran gpmconfig i think .
[08:31] <tritium> sunshine82, so run this:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:31] <Terminus> Yulia, sorry. i was just talking about NFS with CarlFK. seems i was wrong abuot portmap although it does speed up things a bit, and nfs-kernel-server still depends on it.
[08:31] <flodine> does anyone have a wireless 802.11 linksys card working with breezy?
[08:31] <flodine> help
[08:31] <tritium> sunshine82, then you'll have that header file
[08:31] <SGershon> Somebody know why apache says: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4431 ?
[08:31] <HappyFool> caonex: sorry, i don't know what the alternatives are. There's no conflict dependency or anything about it being obsolete in the package description
[08:31] <caonex> HappyFool, how about the keyboard, keymap settings or locale? what is the package?
[08:31] <sunshine82> tritium linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 is already the newest version.
[08:31] <tritium> sunshine82, and don't listen to GoShawk next time ;)
[08:32] <sunshine82> tritium im still havin the error though
[08:32] <HappyFool> caonex: as far as I know one sets environment variables to specify locale, like LANG (i think), and others
[08:32] <_ancient> anyone able to help me change the 127.0.0.1 ip that winvnc broadcast, to the normal ip so i can access through winvnc
[08:32] <Terminus> SGershon, maybe a daemon is already running on port 80? netstat -l might be able to help you find out if that's true.
[08:33] <caonex> HappyFool, i understand now, gpmconfig is what is deprecated, one should use dpkg-reconfigure gpm instead ;)
[08:33] <sunshine82> tritium when i try and make nw802-2.4$
[08:33] <caonex> HappyFool, i had misunderstood....
[08:33] <tritium> sunshine82, one moment
[08:33] <HappyFool> caonex: for the keyboard maybe 'loadkeys' is what you want?
[08:33] <kapputu> what's the taskbar called in Ubuntu?
[08:34] <SGershon> Terminus: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4432
[08:34] <caonex> HappyFool, not sure let me see....
[08:34] <kbrooks> kapputu:  "taskbar"?
[08:35] <caonex> HappyFool, i am glad you mention gpm again, because i love that tool.....and your make me find out i had misunderstood thanks...
[08:35] <SGershon> Terminus, can you see something there?
[08:35] <Terminus> SGershon, you already have a daemon running port 80 --> tcp        0      0 *:www                   *:*                     LISTEN
[08:35] <HappyFool> caonex: cool ;). I manage to live without the mouse on the console
[08:35] <Terminus> SGershon, sorry, netstat -plant would have given more information
[08:35] <Yulia> Terminus, i got start nfs as server. But using it as client when i try to mount netfs nfs, i am allways said: root@makina:/mnt/ficheros_portatil# mount /mnt/ficheros_portatil/raiz/
[08:35] <Yulia> mount: portatil:/ failed, reason given by server: Permision denied
[08:36] <Aven> help
[08:36] <Aven> who is familiar with vsftpd?
[08:36] <caonex> HappyFool, i cant, debian instilled that in me ;)
[08:36] <Terminus> Yulia, maybe you didn't specify the hosts that you were allowing in /etc/exports?
[08:36] <caonex> Happy i do most things in the console
[08:37] <kapputu> kbrooks, when I open an application, the application's lower half hides behind the taskbar and I have to move it to see the lower half
[08:37] <Dreadnought> how do i get to Blackdown Java 1.4 installer
[08:37] <kapputu> is there a way to get around it?
[08:37] <caonex> HappyFool, ^
[08:37] <P8ntKid> What is the command to run gmix?
[08:37] <Seveas> Dreadnought, on breezy: apt-get install j2re-1.4
[08:37] <Dreadnought> im hoary
[08:37] <Terminus> SGershon, btw, to control the daemon, i think it's easier to use /etc/init.d/apache than apache2ctl.
[08:37] <Dreadnought> hnehe
[08:37] <caonex> HappyFool, i am not sure is loadkeys because that is not keymaps is just for key configurations right?
[08:37] <pragup> i wanted to install VIa drivers for my ubuntu system i've got a file unichrome_dri.so ?  how do we run this ?
[08:38] <P8ntKid> what is the package name for gmix?
[08:38] <Seveas> Dreadnought, in that case: go to the blackdown page, download their installer and use make-jpkg
[08:38] <HappyFool> caonex: i don't understand that question ;). Read 'man loadkeys' for info
[08:38] <Yulia> technoid_, i did. ---> /          makina(rw,no_root_squash)
[08:38] <pragup> if i run it just as ./unichrome_dri.so it throws up a seg fault
[08:38] <kapputu> ok Gnome file selector sucks big time, how do I use Firefox's file selector?
[08:38] <caonex> HappyFool, i am reading it
[08:39] <Terminus> Yulia, does the hostname makina resolve properly? you might want to try it with ip addresses first. the manual is against using hostnames because of resolution issues.
[08:39] <Dreadnought> what is the blackdown site?
[08:39] <sunshine82> tritium u back yet
[08:39] <difeta> hi all. I've installed mythtv from multiverse, but I can't install mythgame, it appears that the package is very old. How can I get the most up to date one?
[08:39] <Seveas> Dreadnought, www.google.com/search?q=blackdown
[08:39] <Dreadnought> thnx
[08:40] <Slarti2> anyone here familer with ndiswrapper?
[08:40] <nalioth> Slarti2: just ask your question
[08:40] <SGershon> Terminus, how can i know who is unning on port 80?
[08:40] <Yulia> Terminus,yes it does
[08:41] <Terminus> SGershon, netstat -plant
[08:41] <Slarti2> got ndiswrapper installed, the pcmcia wireless card is active
[08:41] <Slarti2> all settings appear correct and it's getting the beacon from the router
[08:41] <tritium> sunshine82, you're right...it's not in the linux-headers package.  I'm looking at the linux-source-2.6.12 package itself now
[08:41] <Slarti2> but it won't connect
[08:41] <Terminus> Yulia, hmmm... you might want to try ip addresses first and see if it mounts this time.
[08:41] <Slarti2> any ideas?
[08:41] <sunshine82> tritium oh
[08:41] <Yulia> Terminus, 64 bytes from makina.redelokal (192.168.1.2): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=2.31 ms
[08:41] <sunshine82> tritium have u read my error pages
[08:41] <Slarti2> worked fine in hoary
[08:42] <tritium> sunshine82, no, I'm just trying to locate that file for you
[08:42] <kapputu> rhythmbox does not have SMB support?
[08:42] <lightsource> for upgrading to Breezy, for Post-Upgrade it says "If not running NFS as either client or server, remove portmap, as it's no longer needed:"
[08:42] <lightsource> what does that mean?
[08:42] <Dreadnought> uh how do i do this
[08:42] <Yulia> Terminus, mount -t nfs 192.168.1.3:/ /mnt/ficheros_portatil/ it does not work too
[08:43] <sunshine82> tritium http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4434
[08:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> kapputu what is wrong with the gnome file selector?  besides the fact that it doesn't display the path in a good way (little bubbles) it seems great.
[08:43] <tritium> little bubbles?
[08:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone know how to turn off the visualization baloney in gxine?
[08:44] <Terminus> Yulia, did your exports file have /      192.168.1.3(rw,no_root_squash) ?
[08:44] <kapputu> BROKEN_LADDER, I like to type in the path myself or select the folder in the same window, otherwise it just shows up with a default window each time
[08:44] <kapputu> and when I expand it, the lower portion hides behind my taskbar
[08:45] <Dreadnought> is there a simple way to just get jacva
[08:45] <Dreadnought> java
[08:45] <kapputu> and I have to move it so that I can see the 'Save' 'Cancel' buttons
[08:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> kapputu yeah, i wish there was a way to put the path in.  you can type ctrl-l and get a "path" window.
[08:45] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, apps > gconf editor > nautilus > preferences
[08:45] <navyn> can someone help me with getting write access to a disk drive.  Nalioth helped me get going, and I've got a pastebin, with my /etc/fstab at the bottom.  It won't let me write to the drive
[08:45] <navyn> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4433
[08:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> bluefrog-10 no, that's nautilus, not file selector.
[08:46] <Yulia> Terminus, no it is so: /      192.168.1.2rw,no_root_squash)  --> 3:server. 2:client
[08:46] <Terminus> Yulia, oh. sorry. thought 3 was the client.
[08:46] <bluefrog-10> BROKEN_LADDER, what do you call file selector?
[08:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> who's the idiot who made the bubbles the default in the first place?
[08:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> bluefrog-10 you are in a program, and you go to open a file.
[08:46] <bluefrog-10> oh
[08:47] <Yulia> Terminus, i have worked with nfs years ago. It is very strange what it is happening
[08:47] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, take it easy
[08:47] <Yulia> iptables are off too, Terminus
[08:47] <sunshine82> i know what meant to be in the file can i just make it http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/nw802/nw802-2.4/?sortby=author
[08:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium ?
[08:47] <kapputu> BROKEN_LADDER, thanks that makes it easier, but is it relative to the home folder
[08:47] <Terminus> Yulia, hmmm... maybe it's some weird permission issue with / ? i've never tried sharing / before...
[08:47] <mp3guy> is there anyway to use the online itunes store on ubutun?
[08:47] <sunshine82> tritium just an idea what do u think
[08:47] <tritium> sunshine82, about?
[08:47] <bluefrog-10> BROKEN_LADDER, u don't need an address bar just type your path... as easy as that...
[08:48] <iphopper> thanks
[08:48] <iphopper> i'll be good
[08:48] <Yulia> Terminus, with debian it worked ok
[08:48] <kapputu> BROKEN_LADDER, it puts me in the default directory anyway - if I'm in /home/user/downloads then that becomes the base instead of /home/user
[08:48] <Terminus> Yulia, weird... i'm out of ideas. :(
[08:48] <kapputu> I'd rather that it defaults to the home folder
[08:48] <Dreadnought> well is there an easy way to get java
[08:49] <Seveas> !java
[08:49] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:49] <sunshine82> tritium at meant to be in the file can i just make it http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/nw802/nw802-2.4/?sortby=author
[08:49] <Dreadnought> i no but that that sucks
[08:49] <Dreadnought> not user friendly
[08:49] <Yulia> Terminus,  home directory not works too
[08:49] <Seveas> then complain at sun/ibm for not open sourcing
[08:49] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, is it the Configuration editor under system tools?
[08:49] <Seveas> it's as friendly as it gets
[08:49] <tritium> Dreadnought, yeah, you can thank Sun Microsystems for that
[08:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i turn off visualizations in gxine?!
[08:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> arghhh
[08:50] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, yes
[08:50] <sunshine82> tritium nah i just try it it doesnt work
[08:50] <tritium> sunshine82, ok
[08:51] <Yulia> anyone who has a nfs server running??
[08:51] <sunshine82> tritium u got any ideas
[08:51] <Terminus> Yulia, i really have no idea why it's not working for you... i'm running a NFS server on debian being accessed by an ubuntu client right now and it's working just fine. sorry...
[08:51] <kapputu> what property do I change there?
[08:51] <tarum> I am trying to connect to an ftp server that uses secure ftp.  gftp doesn't support this...does anyone know a graphical ftp client that supports sftp?
[08:52] <sunshine82> tritium http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4434
[08:52] <sunshine82> tritium p://nw802.sourceforge.net/faq.html
[08:52] <Dreadnought> tritium: so there is no easy way to do ot
[08:52] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, if you're talking about the noaddress bar when u select the open file menu in a gui i don't know, and personnally I don'yt bother as if you type the path the popup bar appears...
[08:52] <tritium> sunshine82, hold on please
[08:52] <sunshine82> tritium http://nw802.sourceforge.net/faq.html sorry
[08:52] <treitter> so OSDir has screenshots of Dapper for some reason
[08:52] <tritium> I've got quite a bit going on now...
[08:53] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, do I need to restart gnome if I make a change there?
[08:53] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, no
[08:54] <kapputu> ok, in that case it has not change
[08:54] <eXistenZ> why glxgears doesn't show fps infomration in ubuntu
[08:54] <kapputu> *changed*
[08:54] <Secreth`X> rofl I love the doklets, gnome-cow
[08:54] <bluefrog-10> eXistenZ, glxgears -printfps
[08:54] <Aven> help
[08:54] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, I'm looking for mozilla style dialogs
[08:54] <eXistenZ> bluefrog-10, are you using gnome?
[08:54] <bluefrog-10> yes yes
[08:54] <Aven> how can I give permissions for a folder for users to be able to write in?
[08:54] <kapputu> I don't want it to put me in some folder each time
[08:55] <eXistenZ> bluefrog-10, how can I change input languages, any shortcut? I've already set the langs in the language selector
[08:55] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, what are you talking about, don't think i 've seen exactly wher is your problem
[08:55] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, the task seems to be on top always, how do I change this setting
[08:55] <kapputu> how to keep windows from going off the screen?
[08:56] <kapputu> I'm not if I'm asking the question the right way
[08:56] <bluefrog-10> eXistenZ, system > pref >keyboard >layout
[08:57] <Iceman2k> How can i change the 127.0.0.1 ip for a vnc server to use the ip for the internet
[08:57] <Dreadnought> can some one walk me through java instalation
[08:57] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, your windows are going out for a strall?
[08:57] <tritium> !tell Dreadnought about java
[08:57] <Dreadnought> that doesnt help me much
[08:57] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, they hide behind the task bar
[08:57] <Dreadnought> i no dabaR
[08:58] <ragnar> Just one question. I've been trying to get my Wacom to work in ubuntu 5.10. When I plugged it in, but I had no pressure. Then I started messing with xorg.config and after a while I had no wacom support at all. I did boot with an error in xorg.config, so I'm guessing maybe it was disable entirely somehow. Gong back to a older copy of xorg.conf hasn't helped. Is there any way to "restart" the wacom?
[08:58] <kapputu> I have to move them each time to see the 'Ok', 'Cancel' buttons
[08:58] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, what's your screen resolution?
[08:58] <tritium> sunshine82, it's in linux-source-2.6.12
[08:58] <njan> ragnar, have you tried rmmodding the kernel module and modprobeing it back again? That's what I'd try..
[08:58] <kapputu> 1024 x 768
[08:58] <tarum>  I am trying to connect to an ftp server that uses secure ftp.  gftp doesn't support this...does anyone know a graphical ftp client that supports sftp?
[08:58] <lightsource> where can I find my firefox directory?
[08:58] <Iceman2k> anyone able to help me config wine in ubuntu to broadcast the ip from 127.0.0.1 to the network ip ..
[08:58] <tritium> sunshine82, usbvideo.c & usbvideo.h)
[08:59] <Dreadnought> tritium wat u got
[08:59] <lightsource> where can I find my firefox directory?
[08:59] <ragnar> njan. Ok, I'll try that. Very new to linux, but I'm sure I'll figure it out. :-)
[08:59] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, doesn't happens on all your windows? what if you maximze your windows or make them a bit smaller?
[08:59] <njan> ragnar, :).. have you tried googling for the tabletpc/tablet that you have?
[08:59] <Dreadnought> omg will someone help me already?!?
[08:59] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, aren't you on kde by chance?
[08:59] <eXistenZ> bluefrog-10, yeah but how can I toggle between languages afterwards?
[09:00] <njan> ragnar, chances are someone's stuck a page up detailing how linux support works and what config changes are required..
[09:00] <nalioth> Dreadnought: if nobody knows, nobody will answer
[09:00] <Aven> hello
[09:00] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, is there a way I can show you a screenshot of what's happening?
[09:00] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, no I'm on GNOME
[09:00] <Aven> everytime I create a user, ubuntu gives him/her ssh access to all folders and files
[09:00] <Dreadnought> ineed help with java already
[09:00] <laszlok> Dreadnought: do you need the absolute newest version of java, or just 1.4?
[09:00] <lightsource> where can I find my firefox directory?
[09:00] <Dreadnought> god
[09:00] <Aven> how can I disable ssh?
[09:00] <Dreadnought> whatever works for runescape
[09:01] <njan> lightsource, you mean, where it stores profiles?
[09:01] <tritium> Dreadnought, what do I have?  What do you mean?
[09:01] <vincent_> is "Netherlands-Italy" a qualification game or just a friendly game?
[09:01] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, try to paste the shot on pastebin.. don't know if it works
[09:01] <tritium> sunshine82, did you see my message?
[09:01] <ragnar> njan. I've been reading through some of it.  Since I had it working before I figured it was just a question of changing the setting in xorg.config. Seems there was more to it. Thanks for the help
[09:01] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, send me the shot
[09:01] <Dreadnought> for support
[09:01] <Dreadnought> duh
[09:01] <lightsource> well I want to update it to 1.5RC, and I noticed that the files that they give me in the tar.gz are all directory files, so I figured that I would just replace them
[09:01] <tritium> Dreadnought, don't be rude
[09:01] <njan> Aven, disable sshd or set their shell to /bin/false (although technically that'll disable text logon too)
[09:02] <Dreadnought> tryin not to be ;-)
[09:02] <njan> ragnar, np.. good luck!
[09:02] <Aven> what's text-login? :P
[09:02] <tritium> Dreadnought, you are being...I had ubotu give you a wiki page to read
[09:02] <Aven> you mean ftp too?
[09:02] <sunshine82> tritium that file is still a box i need to to tar it open it a bz2 file
[09:02] <Dreadnought> thats not very helpful to me since it wont work
[09:02] <njan> Aven, It shouldn't disable ftp logon.
[09:02] <Aven> would /bin/bash disable text login?
[09:02] <Aven> ah ok
[09:03] <njan> Aven, /bin/bash is a shell, so no, it would enable shell via text login
[09:03] <Aven> ah ok
[09:03] <lightsource> njan, well I want to update it to 1.5RC, and I noticed that the files that they give me in the tar.gz are all directory files, so I figured that I would just replace them
[09:03] <tritium> sunshine82, cd /usr/src, and then tar jxvf linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[09:03] <bluefrog-10> eXistenZ, add to taskbar the keyboard indicator
[09:03] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, I don't think I can paste it through pastebin
[09:03] <njan> Aven, /bin/false won't stop them logging in, but it isn't a real shell, so as soon as they login they get booted dback out again. So although they can login, they can't, if you see what I mean.
[09:03] <tritium> Dreadnought, it works
[09:03] <Dreadnought> not 4 me
[09:03] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, send me the file
[09:04] <Dreadnought> i wish it did or i wouldnt be here nopw would i
[09:04] <njan> lightsource, do you have a particular reason for not upgrading through apt-get/synaptic?
[09:04] <tritium> Dreadnought, be more specific about what didn't work
[09:04] <njan> lightsource, installing packages through tar.gz files is particularly messy..
[09:04] <Dreadnought> let me try it again and refresh myself
[09:04] <lightsource> njan, synaptic only updates my firefox to 1.0.7 but I want 1.5. And I forgot how to apt-get..
[09:04] <sunshine82> tritium ohh i havent done that i just tar -xjvf i think it still open in it what have i done
[09:04] <tritium> Dreadnought, I strongly advise using make-jpkg (in the java-package package), after downloading Sun's .bin installer
[09:05] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, I'm sending it thru DCC
[09:05] <njan> lightsource, synaptic == apt-get, for these purposes
[09:05] <sunshine82> tritium what have i done i can tar it the way u want when it finish
[09:05] <tritium> sunshine82, just do as I suggested from the command line
[09:05] <peter__> hi
[09:05] <Dreadnought> thats for breezy i have hoary duh!
[09:05] <njan> lightsource, either read the README in the .tar.gz and it should tell you how to install, or just wait - I'd just wait if I were you
[09:05] <tritium> sunshine82, I don't know what you've done...you tell me
[09:05] <lightsource> oh ok
[09:05] <black-whisp> how  do  you make a path file?
[09:05] <lightsource> njan, thanks
[09:05] <njan> lightsource, installing packages outwith apt-get really is really messy, it leaves crap all over the filing system and they're hard to uninstall
[09:05] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, yes but there's something preventing me to get it apparently
[09:05] <Dreadnought> tritium: how do i do that
[09:05] <tritium> Dreadnought, quit your tone.  I'm tired of seeing you say "duh".
[09:05] <njan> lightsource, and you risk breaking things that are then hard to fix
[09:05] <black-whisp> how  do  you make a path file?
[09:06] <lightsource> njan, "==" meaning the program I want right?
[09:06] <sunshine82> tritium ill do it that way when it finish it just it still openin
[09:06] <Dreadnought> im referring to myself *>*
[09:06] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, try again pls so that i can chechk my router's log
[09:06] <njan> lightsource, I mean, synaptic and apt-get essentially do the same thing, so if it isn't available via synaptic it won't via apt-get
[09:06] <tritium> Dreadnought, the wiki page explains that
[09:06] <elad`> What's the command for delete under DOS?
[09:06] <bluefrog-10> del
[09:06] <lightsource> njan, should I close everything I have open if I'm about to upgrade to 5.10?
[09:06] <sunshine82> tritium ohh i havent done that i just tar -xjvf i think
[09:06] <elad`> It's not working, for some reason.
[09:06] <sunshine82> tritium im waitin sorry
[09:07] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, I'm sending it again
[09:07] <njan> lightsource, I wouldn't - nothing should break, apps might just die if things they're dependent upon suddenly change and get reloaded mid install.
[09:07] <tritium> sunshine82, cd /usr/src, and then tar jxvf linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[09:07] <njan> lightsource, but again, read the upgrade guide ;)
[09:07] <Terminus> Dreadnought, runescape is the one at http://www.runescape.com and that's what you're trying to run right? if so, the wiki entry tritium gave you earlier should have worked. it works for me here.
[09:07] <njan> lightsource, there's a pre-upgrade step or two, and some common problems listed iirc
[09:07] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, sry can't get it don't know why
[09:07] <lightsource> njan, I took the pre-upgrade steps
[09:08] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, that's ok
[09:09] <njan> lightsource, go for it, then. Good luck. :)
[09:09] <sunshine82> tritium ohh no im gettin an error now it say cannot open: no such file or directory
[09:09] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, I think the problem is the task bar is on top always, I just need to change that
[09:09] <lightsource> njan, thanks
[09:09] <gleesond> I can't get firefox to download anything.... it doesn't ask me where to put the file and it won't let me change the default download dir, which is /home/username
[09:09] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, weird i don't even see your ip showing up in my log eventhough i ahve the send file window opened :)
[09:09] <sunshine82> tritium it because it moved it to the home folder
[09:09] <tritium> Dreadnought, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats tells you all you need to know.  (read section 4. Getting Java)
[09:09] <Red-Sox> hi
[09:10] <tritium> sunshine82, so move it back, and do as I suggested
[09:10] <Dreadnought> im going jeez!
[09:10] <sunshine82> tritium ill move it back to the usr/src
[09:10] <sunshine82> tritium sorry
[09:10] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, I have no idea, probably my ISP
[09:10] <tritium> sunshine82, no need to be, buddy :)
[09:10] <Red-Sox> i need to stream quicktime live from the interner, but obviously, im using ubuntu:-/ is it possible?
[09:10] <Red-Sox> internet*
[09:11] <tritium> Dreadnought, please stop using that tone.  words like "duh" and "jeez" don't give the impression you appreciate the help
[09:11] <sunshine82> tritium ok how do i move when i try to move it by hand it just say i dont have permission how do i move it through terminal
[09:11] <black-whisp> name a console  text  editor.
[09:12] <Red-Sox> does anyone know how to help me?
[09:12] <tritium> sunshine82, with sudo mv <source> <dest>
[09:12] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, can you think of any other way?
[09:12] <sinizzl> hey
[09:12] <Red-Sox> because I really need to stream this
[09:13] <sinizzl> how can i install gcc-3.4.4 on ubuntu without using the sources from the gnu.org mirrors ?
[09:13] <lsuactiafner> right so in the 5.10 rpc aint needed but rpc IS NEEDED if you want an older non-ubuntu system NFS mount support
[09:13] <sinizzl> is there anythign like apt-get install gcc-3.4.4 (that one doesn't work) ?
[09:13] <nalioth> sinizzl: use synaptic
[09:13] <tritium> sinizzl, the package is gcc-3.4
[09:13] <sinizzl> currently, gcc 4.something is installed
[09:14] <sinizzl> synaptic ?
[09:14] <lsuactiafner> and another little known fact, cross compiling on ubuntu is fskced.
[09:14] <Red-Sox> does anyone know, because this is almost an emergency, and you guys art my only hope
[09:14] <eXistenZ> hey, how can I add mp3 support?
[09:14] <sinizzl> tritium, thank you, that one DOES work.
[09:14] <tritium> !tell eXistenZ about mp3
[09:14] <Red-Sox> ARGH!
[09:14] <Zambba> !tell Zambba about mp3
[09:14] <sinizzl> and yeah, i had some other problem with gcc.... when i wanna c ompile wxwindows it tells me my compiler does not support the VPATH variable correctli. wtf does that mean ?
[09:14] <tritium> sinizzl, well, I wouldn't tell you if it didn't ;)
[09:14] <sinizzl> tritium, wow, that's soooo awesome, you're my hero ;-)
[09:14] <sunshine82> tritium ok it move it in that folder usr/src
[09:14] <tritium> sinizzl, do you have build-essential installed?
[09:15] <Red-Sox> okaaaaaaaaaaaaaay, what about windows media player?
[09:15] <sinizzl> since i don't know what that is i assume no
[09:15] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, read your private msg
[09:15] <Red-Sox> !tell Red-Sox about RestrictedFormats
[09:15] <tritium> sinizzl, it's a meta-package that depends on a lot of commonly used development packages such as gcc, make, etc...
[09:15] <sinizzl> i have to install linux for a friend of mine, gentoo wasn't able to compile xorg-x11 with any compiler settings whatsoever so i tried ubuntu and i don't know ANYTHING about it
[09:15] <sinizzl> tritium, yeah, i think this would be quite utile, thanks again
[09:15] <tritium> sure :)
[09:16] <sunshine82> tritium where are the usbvideo
[09:16] <enrique_> no es posible que nadie hable castellano
[09:16] <sobersabre> hi guys. I have a new additional monitor for my laptop. it has different MAX resolution than my laptop's one.
[09:16] <sobersabre> I'd like to have 2 screens wide desktop.
[09:16] <tritium> sunshine82, /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/drivers/usb/media
[09:16] <Red-Sox> ARRRR!
[09:16] <sobersabre> how do I do this ? ( wheere can I read this ? )
[09:17] <sinizzl> and yeah, is this a common bug that nautilus is still in english although i selected german as my gnome language ?
[09:17] <sinizzl> wow tritium, your advice just solved ALL my compilation problems ;-)
[09:17] <tritium> sinizzl, I'm glad it helped :)
[09:17] <sobersabre> I have intel 855GM card.
[09:17] <sinizzl> so am i
[09:18] <richard_> Hi!
[09:18] <sinizzl> tritium, don't you know anything about language settings ?
[09:18] <Dreadnought> i did it all and it looked sucess full but runescape still doesnt work do i need to restart?
[09:18] <tritium> sinizzl, what do you mean?
[09:18] <tritium> Dreadnought, you already built your java .deb using make-jpkg?
[09:18] <sinizzl> i selected german as my preferred language and nautilus is still in english... no problem for ME though, but since this rig is for a friend of mine who doesn't understand english at all it matters
[09:19] <nalioth> tritium: did he build it or use the deb?
[09:19] <da|patrick> hi
[09:19] <Dreadnought> i just did whatever the wiki said to do
[09:19] <tritium> sinizzl, oh, sorry, I've never tried any other language other than Enlish.  Sorry that I can't help with that...
[09:19] <da|patrick> nalioth :)
[09:19] <da|patrick> quick question
[09:19] <pppoe_dude> vote: gentoo or ubuntu?
[09:19] <tritium> nalioth, not sure, he's not very communicative
[09:19] <sobersabre> sinizzl .. are there germans that don't understand english nowadays ?!?!? :)
[09:19] <da|patrick> how to use apt-get to dl a file from a url
[09:19] <tritium> pppoe_dude, no voting please
[09:19] <sinizzl> tritium, is it possible that i have to install something like "nautilus-some-gemran-version.deb"
[09:19] <da|patrick> apt-get *url*
[09:19] <pppoe_dude> tritium ok
[09:19] <sinizzl> sobersabre, me and my friend are not german
[09:19] <da|patrick> ???
[09:19] <nalioth> da|patrick: it has to be a repo, to get apt to work
[09:19] <sinizzl> we're swiss... yeah baby, yeah
[09:19] <tritium> sinizzl, it should depend on your locales setting, I would think
[09:19] <sobersabre> swiss ?
[09:19] <sinizzl> tritium,
[09:19] <sinizzl> /etc/whatfile ?
[09:20] <da|patrick> nalioth, which command do i need instead to dl it?
[09:20] <sobersabre> sinizzl you need only to set you user's "locale" properly
[09:20] <sinizzl> sobersabre, yeah swiss. that fake racist country in middle europe
[09:20] <tritium> sinizzl, you can try sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:20] <sinizzl> mkay
[09:20] <nalioth> da|patrick: your browser has d/l capability
[09:20] <sinizzl> yeah, btw, i uncommented everything in /etc/sudoers so my friend who will use this rig won't be able to screw anything up... is this a bad idea ?
[09:20] <Dreadnought> im restarting ok
[09:20] <da|patrick> i thought, this time i will dl it to the system default
[09:20] <da|patrick> ok...
[09:20] <sunshine82> tritium i copy them into nw802-2.4 but when i type make it still say no file or directory adn they turn back into unknow files
[09:21] <sobersabre> sinizzl which login manager do you use ?
[09:21] <tritium> please refrain from the politics, etc.
[09:21] <sinizzl> sobersabre, gdm
[09:21] <da|patrick> then it shouldnt be important where that driver is, should it
[09:21] <da|patrick> ?
[09:21] <sobersabre> then, when you see the login window, do you see "lanaguages" there ?
[09:21] <sinizzl> yes sobersabre i do. but the funny thing is there are about 4 languages listed
[09:21] <sinizzl> unlike my gentoo system that lists me a hundreds of available languages
[09:22] <sobersabre> sinizzl this means only you should really run "dpkg-reconfigure locales"
[09:22] <sinizzl> it *probably* has something to do that i selected "german - swiss" as my language
[09:22] <sinizzl> ii dont see something like "german - standard"
[09:22] <sinizzl> on my gentoo i rig i do....
[09:22] <sunshine82> tritium read this http://nw802.sourceforge.net/faq.html what does this mean you have some trouble building the modules, check the Makefile, may be some path on my box are different than the ones on you box. All comments are welcome !
[09:22] <tritium> sunshine82, you don't copy them.  You specify where those files are located (which I gave you the path for)
[09:22] <nalioth> da|patrick: what are you after?
[09:22] <sunshine82> tritium oh how do i do that
[09:23] <tritium> sunshine82, honestly, I don't have time to read all of that
[09:23] <sunshine82> tritium ok is it in makefile
[09:24] <peteog> .close
[09:24] <tritium> sunshine82, no, it shouldn't be
[09:24] <da|patrick> nalioth, new clean install
[09:24] <da|patrick> ati driver compiling - episode 2
[09:24] <sunshine82> tritium http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4436
[09:24] <da|patrick> k?
[09:24] <nalioth> da|patrick: i'm lost, friend
[09:24] <da|patrick> i know...
[09:24] <sinizzl> how can i activate the "computer" icon on the gnome desktop ?
[09:25] <da|patrick> nalioth, may u have that link i used earlier
[09:25] <sinizzl> i can add the launcher for nautilus but this one could be deleted from the desktop.. i wanna have the "built-in" shizzl
[09:25] <da|patrick> that inofficial wiki?
[09:25] <da|patrick> i forgot to save that link
[09:25] <difeta> how can i make a .deb file from a .tar.gz source file?
[09:25] <nalioth> da|patrick: help.ubuntu.com?
[09:25] <guti> hola uqe tal
[09:25] <tritium> difeta, easiest way is to use checkinstall
[09:26] <guti> ubuntu en espaol?
[09:26] <tritium> !es
[09:26] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:26] <guti> zenkius
[09:26] <da|patrick> nalioth, that wiki that describes how to install that new ati driver
[09:26] <Fearan> i have a problem with ~/.dmrc: gdm tells me it has the wrong permissions.  i did what it told me: owned by user, and 644 permissions.  it still has a problem. any suggestions?
[09:26] <da|patrick> the officials are horrible outdated
[09:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell da|patrick about ati
[09:26] <difeta> tritium, where would i learn about using that?
[09:27] <tritium> !checkinstall
[09:27] <ubotu> somebody said checkinstall was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[09:27] <da|patrick> nalioth, the official wiki is outdated
[09:27] <da|patrick> that doesnt help me
[09:27] <sinizzl> can anyone tell me what the /debootstrap directory is for? can i delete that one ?
[09:28] <nalioth> da|patrick: obviously it wasnt me, then
[09:28] <Dreadnought> it didnt work and i did just what the wiki said
[09:28] <da|patrick> in kubuntu i posted that link and u where there ;)
[09:28] <Fearan> i have a problem with ~/.dmrc: gdm tells me it has the wrong permissions.  i did what it told me: owned by user, and 644 permissions.  it still has a problem. any suggestions?
[09:28] <da|patrick> may u watch in that room...
[09:29] <sobersabre> guys.. is there a comprehensive "multihead" display guide on the web ?
[09:29] <da|patrick> about 3 hours in the past
[09:29] <nalioth> da|patrick: perhaps you should ask again in #kubuntu
[09:29] <da|patrick> *sigh*
[09:29] <sinizzl> can anyone tell me what the /debootstrap directory is for? can i delete that one ?
[09:29] <sobersabre> Fearan chmod 600 that file
[09:29] <emurz_> Does anyone know how to install the driver for ATI 9200 display card?
[09:30] <Fearan> sobersabre: ok
[09:30] <emurz_> I downloaded the fglrx driver, now what I'm supposed to do?
[09:30] <Dreadnought> why doesnt it work
[09:30] <sobersabre> emurz_ usually read the installation instructions...
[09:30] <tritium> difeta, did you see that wiki page?
[09:30] <sobersabre> ;-)
[09:30] <Fearan> brb
[09:30] <emurz_> ok :)
[09:31] <kman^> hmm
[09:31] <kman^> mabye someone could help me with this
[09:31] <kman^> how would I go about setting my default browser?
[09:31] <nalioth> kman^: systsm > prefs > preferred apps
[09:31] <sinizzl> what is the apt-get command to install gtk/gtk+ ?
[09:31] <kman^> thanks
[09:32] <Fearan> sobersabre: didn't do anything
[09:32] <sunshine82> tritium any ideas
[09:32] <wegstar> hello, I am having trouble installing ubuntu onto a machine with 32MB of RAM...
[09:32] <seth_k|lappy> anyone have any ideas on getting phpEclipse to install properly on Eclipse? The wiki instructions are outdated...
[09:32] <sobersabre> Fearan who owns that file ?!
[09:32] <Kyral> wegstar, thats gonna be a STRETCH
[09:32] <Fearan> sobersabre: i do
[09:32] <Dreadnought> some one help with java for i am too inompetant to do it myself
[09:32] <wegstar> hmm?
[09:32] <Fearan> sobersabre: fearan
[09:32] <kman^> for command
[09:33] <wegstar> when it tries uncompressing "nic" something it says "killed"
[09:33] <Kyral> wegstar, I don't think you can pull it off
[09:33] <wegstar> oh
[09:33] <kman^> do I put the path of the browser?
[09:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Dreadnought about javadebs
[09:33] <tritium> sunshine82, that makefile is incorrect
[09:33] <Kyral> Try Damn Small Linux
[09:33] <nalioth> Dreadnought: act like an adult, please
[09:33] <Dreadnought> oh god damn it i did that and it didnt work
[09:33] <Fearan> sobersabre: it also told me to change permissions to 644... not 600
[09:33] <Dreadnought> its pissing me off pretty bad
[09:33] <sobersabre> Fearan what's the home dir permissions ?
[09:33] <wegstar> "What is the recommended RAM and how much hard drive space does Ubuntu need? To install Ubuntu you should have at least 32MB of RAM." - so umm
[09:34] <nalioth> Dreadnought: what hardware are you running?
[09:34] <Fearan> sobersabre: lemme check
[09:34] <tritium> Dreadnought, how many times have I asked you to watch your tone?
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[09:34] <sobersabre> Fearan I don't know what's wrong with your setup, but I have 600 and It is ok.
[09:34] <Kyral> wegstar, the CDs I got from Shipit say 128 MB
[09:34] <wegstar> hmm
[09:34] <Fearan> sobersabre: home is 777... that a problem?
[09:34] <libben> anyone wanna hit me with a command line for mounting an iso? its an xbox  iso and i want to extract it contents. or share it with samba so i can copy it easy to my xbx
[09:34] <sinizzl> does anybody know what i need to do to install wxwindows properly?
[09:34] <Kyral> 64 for a server install
[09:35] <tritium> sunshine82, the path to the KERNEL_SOURCE is /usr/src/linux-2.6.12
[09:35] <sunshine82> tritium i tohouh so as well but ive learn my lesson about changin files when i dont know what im doin
[09:35] <pppoe_dude> so what like more people here on saturdays or something?
[09:35] <sobersabre> Fearan I don't know, but having home 777 is .... a very weird idea.
[09:35] <tritium> pppoe_dude, people usually work M-F
[09:35] <wegstar> is there some way to disable some things that aren't crucial in the installer that can free up RAM?
[09:35] <sobersabre> it's even a stupid idea...
[09:35] <sinizzl> does anybody know what i need to do to install wxwindows properly?
[09:36] <Fearan> sobersabre: what do you suggest, like 744?
[09:36] <nalioth> sinizzl: apt-get?
[09:36] <sobersabre> Fearan, do you know the meaning of these numbers ?!
[09:36] <da|patrick> crap
[09:36] <Fearan> sobersabre: i do
[09:36] <da|patrick> compiling still doesnt work
[09:36] <sinizzl> nalioth, apt-get install what ?
[09:36] <tritium> sinizzl, there are various packages.  use apt-cache search wxwindows to find them
[09:36] <da|patrick> anybody here who has skills with the compiler
[09:36] <sobersabre> what is the meaning of 744 for a directory ?!!!!
[09:36] <da|patrick> and an idea what may wrecked at my pc
[09:36] <Fearan> sobersabre: rwxr--r--
[09:36] <da|patrick> if i explain the story again
[09:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sinizzl about synaptic
[09:37] <sobersabre> Fearan it is actually almost equal to 700 :)
[09:37] <nalioth> sinizzl: you use synaptic to search for what you want to install
[09:37] <Fearan> sobersabre: owner has rwx, group has r, others have r
[09:37] <sobersabre> if you want others to be able to chmod into your home, it must be +x for them.
[09:37] <Fearan> so what so you suggest, 700/744 is good?
[09:37] <sinizzl> nalioth, apt-cache search wxwindows did the trick
[09:37] <sinizzl> thank you anyways
[09:37] <dewp> hey !
[09:38] <libben> anyone wanna hit me with a command line for mounting an iso? its an xbox  iso and i want to extract it contents. or share it with samba so i can copy it easy to my xbx
[09:38] <sobersabre> either 700 or 750 or 755 ...
[09:38] <Fearan> sobersabre: ok
[09:38] <sobersabre> the best would be 700
[09:38] <wegstar> would doing a "expert install" help?
[09:38] <dewp> i google'd but did not find an answer: when i install OS X on HFS, is it possible to install ubuntu on the same partition and get the possibility to work with both operating systems?
[09:39] <Fearan> sobersabre: i'll just do 700
[09:39] <Kyral> wegstar, I honestly don;t know
[09:39] <tritium> dewd, not on the same partition, no
[09:39] <sunshine82> tritium im just askin when i tryed /usr/src/linux--2.6.12 it came out error no file or directory
[09:39] <sunshine82> did u mean /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12
[09:39] <Kyral> its worth a shot :D
[09:39] <wegstar> how does one do an expert installation anyway? ;)
[09:39] <Iceman2k> anyone know how i gan get KDE System setting open as root
[09:39] <Iceman2k> sudo
[09:39] <sobersabre> guys... does anybody here uses multihead display ?
[09:39] <Kyral> hit "expert" at the boot prompt
[09:39] <wegstar> got it
[09:39] <tritium> sunshine82, yes, I did
[09:39] <{{corona}}> hi i have this boot problem which i have pasted up here http://rafb.net/paste/results/hnkJh636.html
[09:39] <sobersabre> with different resolution ?
[09:39] <libertyaikido> mount -o loop /home/user/file.iso /home/user/iso
[09:39] <{{corona}}> can someone help?
[09:40] <sinizzl> why can't i chown /bla user ? it tells me operation isn ot permitted... :(
[09:40] <sinizzl> i'm logged in as root...
[09:40] <ssam> dewp, you can have them on the same disk but not the same partition
[09:40] <dewp> hmm, okay. thanks so far :) do you know a good application to resize a mac partition on the fly and creating a native linux partition?
[09:40] <sinizzl> chgrp doesnt work either
[09:40] <SGershon> Terminus, see apache and netstat output: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4437
[09:40] <SGershon> Terminus, Sorry for my delay...
[09:40] <thrush> sinizzl: can u chown user /blah ?
[09:40] <SGershon> ;)
[09:41] <sinizzl> aeh
[09:41] <sinizzl> thrush,
[09:41] <dewp> maybe it's possible with the ubuntu life-cd ?
[09:41] <sinizzl> no!
[09:41] <ssam> dewp, i am not sure anything can resize a hfs partition
[09:41] <dewp> damn
[09:41] <sinizzl> i chowned user /bla from the beginning on... just didn't type it correctly @ irc
[09:41] <sobersabre> {{corona}} you need to boot with live CD and run fsck on your partitions.
[09:41] <toresbe> you can create a new temporary one and then...
[09:41] <ssam> dewp, you'll have to back up and reformat
[09:41] <Fearan> sobersabre: it worked, thanks for the help
[09:41] <thrush> sinizzl: ah ok :)
[09:41] <sobersabre> no prob.
[09:42] <{{corona}}> sobersabre: is that the only way?
[09:42] <sinizzl> thrush, is that normal ?
[09:42] <sinizzl> how can i override that ?
[09:42] <sobersabre> {{corona}} what do you mean ?
[09:42] <ssam> dewp, which is wise anyway as resizing can be dangerous
[09:42] <sobersabre> there is another way: reinstall and lose data....
[09:42] <SGershon> What is occupying my 80 port?? See http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4437.
[09:42] <SGershon> I cannot rcognize?
[09:42] <sobersabre> SGershon it is usually a webserver..
[09:42] <{{corona}}> is there any other way of doing a fsck.. i dont have a live boot cd
[09:42] <lightsource> how do I edit my GRUB.lst in terminal?
[09:42] <dewp> hmm okay. so i install first ubuntu and partition the HDD before i install os x?
[09:43] <da|patrick> crap... the compiling still produces nothing
[09:43] <libertyaikido> libben: mount -t iso9660 -o loop myimage.iso /mnt/iso
[09:43] <dewp> yeah i know, backup is done :)
[09:43] <libertyaikido> That is clearer.
[09:43] <Terminus> SGershon, you need to use sudo to restart apache. this line looks curious too, i was expecting it to give you the pid of the process at least, if not the bin ->tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     -
[09:43] <da|patrick> what can i do?
[09:43] <sobersabre> run netstat --inet -anp | grep 80 AS ROOT.
[09:43] <libben> libertyaikido: i also need to mkdir /mnt/iso
[09:43] <libertyaikido> correct
[09:43] <sobersabre> SGershon run sudo netstat, of course.
[09:43] <{{corona}}> sobersabre: i dont have a live cd. is there any other method?
[09:43] <ssam> dewp, partition with the osx install cd, leave some unused space for linux, then install mac os x, then install ubuntu
[09:43] <libben> and when im done with it i just umount /mnt/iso ?
[09:44] <gpled> anyone get ubuntu to work with an hp laserjet 5L ?
[09:44] <Terminus> SGershon, oh.... stupid me... sobersabre answered that run netstat -plant with sudo. :)
[09:44] <sobersabre> {{corona}} you can run kubuntu CD in "rescue mode"
[09:44] <libertyaikido> libben: mount -t iso9660 -o loop myimage.iso /mnt/iso
[09:44] <{{corona}}> sobersabre: by typing recue on boot menu?
[09:44] <dustin_> how do i cut copy and paste in vi?
[09:44] <libertyaikido> libben: and cd to /mnt/iso
[09:44] <lightsource> how do I edit my GRUB.lst in terminal?
[09:44] <libben> yeah and unmount it ?
[09:44] <libben> just umount /mnt/iso
[09:44] <ssam> dustin_, select and middle click, if you have a mouse
[09:44] <libertyaikido> libben: umount /mnt/iso
[09:44] <Kyral> sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:45] <sobersabre> {{corona}} i don't remember :) ... run F1 , F2 etc  to read the instruc tions
[09:45] <SGershon> sobersabre, Terminus, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4439
[09:45] <{{corona}}> sobersabre: i tried that but got a bit confused because it started doing hardware checks etc...it looked like it was going to install kubuntu (am i being stupid?)
[09:45] <libertyaikido> libben: make sure your no longer in /mnt/iso when you unmount it or you will get an error.
[09:45] <sunshine82> tritium well neither worked got this error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4438
[09:45] <Fearan> anybody have an opinion on how ubuntu runs on a sony vaio?
[09:46] <sobersabre> {{corona}} don't get confused: just read the instructions.
[09:46] <msg43> Does anyone use ndiswrapper without a ESSID?
[09:46] <tritium> sunshine82, I need to get going for a while...I'll be back later
[09:46] <sobersabre> sunshine82 It runs the same way it runs everywhere.. just fine
[09:46] <msg43> Does anyone use ndiswrapper without a WEP key
[09:46] <dustin_> ssam, and what does that do?
[09:46] <{{corona}}> sobersabre: so i boot from the cd i installed kubuntu?
[09:46] <lightsource> how do I edit my GRUB.lst in terminal?
[09:46] <Terminus> SGershon, what command did you use to generate that? looks like it's not telling us what's on port 80.
[09:46] <sobersabre> lightsource with an editor..
[09:46] <Kyral> lightsource,  sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:46] <ulisse> hello people
[09:46] <ssam> dustin_, select copies, middle click pastes. it works all across linux
[09:46] <SGershon> Terminus, with -plant: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4440
[09:47] <kraftwerk> please help, XMMS segfaults :( what should I do?
[09:47] <SGershon> Fisrt link was "netstat", second "netstat -plant". Both with sudo.
[09:47] <Terminus> SGershon, ok. apache is running. did you try sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart already?
[09:47] <ulisse> is there any way to recover a movie from a faulty dvd? I get I/O errors at about 67% of the reading...
[09:48] <sobersabre> {{corona}} ... I think i've said that...
[09:48] <dustin_> how aobut deleating?
[09:48] <SGershon> Terminus, "Restarting Apache". with "apache2ctl" it output an error.
[09:48] <SGershon> But PHP is still not working from apache.
[09:49] <Terminus> SGershon, sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart said that?
[09:49] <dustin_> ssam, that is cool
[09:49] <{{corona}}> sobersabre: thank you, i shall try
[09:49] <tritium> SGershon, use sudo invoke-rc.d apache restart
[09:49] <h08817> any ideas what i can use to host a site on my linux machine?
[09:49] <SGershon> Terminus, "Restarting Apache"
[09:49] <libertyaikido> What irc chat client do you recommend?
[09:49] <libertyaikido> Anyone?
[09:50] <SGershon> h08817, LAMP, and a 24h/7d connection.
[09:50] <libertyaikido> I'm using X-chat now.
[09:50] <clb_> libertyaikido: irssi?
[09:50] <h08817> I have a linksys router and I have comcast
[09:50] <clb_> libertyaikido: it's text-based though
[09:50] <ssam> dustin_, its faster than using the keyboard
[09:50] <h08817> SGershon, is it easy to setup?
[09:50] <SGershon> libertyaikido, I use X-chat as well.
[09:50] <libertyaikido> I prefer the GUI right now.
[09:50] <SGershon> !lamp
[09:50] <ubotu> lamp is probably Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:50] <sobersabre> libertyaikido it is really working. if you want to sound really cool, you should use "bitchX"
[09:50] <SGershon> h08817, I myself am having trouble to install, but Terminus is helping me.
[09:50] <sobersabre> but if you want usability, x-chat will do the trick.
[09:50] <libben> libertyaikido:
[09:51] <libertyaikido> sobersabre: ;)
[09:51] <libben> sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop mrn-king.iso /media/iso
[09:51] <libben> mount: Not a directory
[09:51] <Terminus> SGershon, are you sure you're not trying to run apache and apache2 on the same port?
[09:51] <sobersabre> libertyaikido if you're a kde freak you can patriotically use kopete.
[09:51] <SGershon> Hummm, can be!  :P
[09:51] <h08817> SGershon, where did u download it from?
[09:51] <ssam> kraftwerk, make a backtrace and file a bug
[09:52] <SGershon> !tell h08817 about lamp
[09:52] <libertyaikido> How is gaim at irc.  I use it for everything else already.
[09:52] <Terminus> SGershon, i really didn't think that you were running both 1.3 and 2 but you could be. :)
[09:52] <SGershon> Terminus, how can I check?
[09:52] <SGershon> I
[09:52] <fp> I'm getting 'signatures were invalid: BADSIG' when I do apt-get update. how to I update my keys?
[09:52] <libertyaikido> libben: sorry about the sudo thing.  I always assign a password to root negating the need for sudo.
[09:52] <rryder> anyone know how to change the gnome-keyring master password?
[09:52] <Terminus> SGershon, maybe 1.3 is the one that's running right now and apache2ctl is generating that error because of that.
[09:52] <SGershon> I'll see the apache packages I have runnning.
[09:53] <libben> libertyaikido: ? i have tried it without sudo also, still not working. and yes, the iso folder is created in /media
[09:53] <Terminus> SGershon, dpkg-query -l | grep apache should show you what apache packages are installed.
[09:54] <kraftwerk> how do I backtrace and where do I file bugs? sorry, noob =D
[09:54] <msg43> Does anyone use ndiswrapper without a ESSID?
[09:54] <SGershon> Terminus, you were right!! http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4441
[09:54] <ssam> kraftwerk, ok, run "gdb xmms" in a terminal
[09:55] <ssam> kraftwerk, then you get a gdb shell
[09:55] <holycow> http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/docs.html  <-- neat, didn't know about this
[09:55] <libertyaikido> libben: so you 'mkdir -p /mnt/iso' then 'mount -t iso9660 -o loop your your_image_name.iso /mnt/iso'
[09:55] <ssam> kraftwerk, type "run"
[09:55] <kraftwerk> ok.
[09:55] <libertyaikido> libben: that didn't work?
[09:55] <Terminus> SGershon, heh... turns out it was a very simple problem. next time, don't try to run two daemons on the same port. :)
[09:55] <tritium> holycow, unison is in universe
[09:55] <libben> libertyaikido: whats the mkdir -p for?
[09:55] <SGershon> Terminus, can I just uninstall the 1.3 pacjkages?
[09:55] <ssam> kraftwerk, now do what you did before to make xmms crash
[09:55] <Terminus> SGershon, if you don't really need anything in 1.3.33, i recommend you just use apache2-mpm-prefork.
[09:55] <holycow> tritium, *nod* just noticed it
[09:56] <libertyaikido> libben: -p just means create the entire path if it doesn't already exist.
[09:56] <SGershon> Terminus, "prefork" ?
[09:56] <msg43> Can anyone please help me with ndiswrapper? PLEASE???!!!
[09:56] <holycow> anyone used unison? just curious
[09:56] <kraftwerk> It started crashing after I installed nvidia drivers
[09:56] <Terminus> SGershon, yep. if you really don't have any particular need for it.
[09:56] <libertyaikido> libben: if /mnt didn't exist it would have cvreated it.
[09:56] <Terminus> SGershon, yeah... people use that version because of some php security issue. i forgot exactly what.
[09:56] <libben> well mnt exists, but i created mine in media. where all the other mounts are
[09:57] <libertyaikido> libben: so what was your mount command again?
[09:57] <msg43> Will someone please help my soul
[09:57] <ssam> msg43, pleeding often doesnt help on irc. maybe there is no one here right now that knows about ndiswrapper. if you wait ten mins and then restate your problem you may get a response
[09:57] <Dorset-Guy> HI i'm trying to load ubuntu onto an old acer laptop but it hangs  on detecting cd rom drives any suggestions?
[09:57] <libben> sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop mrn-king.iso /media/iso/
[09:57] <ssam> msg43, or try posting in the forum
[09:58] <sobersabre> msg43 only psyciatrists can do that
[09:58] <ssam> kraftwerk, has it segfaulted in gdb?
[09:58] <kraftwerk> yes
[09:58] <rryder> dorset-guy, try booting with 'noacpi nodma' options
[09:58] <tritium> or clergy
[09:58] <ssam> ok, now type "bt"
[09:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Dorset-Guy about smartboot
[09:59] <ulisse> is there any way to recover a movie from a faulty dvd? I get I/O errors at about 67% of the reading... (2nd attempt)
[09:59] <libertyaikido> libben: try it without the / at the end of /mnt/iso/
[09:59] <libertyaikido> libben: make it /mnt/iso
[09:59] <ssam> kraftwerk, now copy everything since you typed gdb into a text file
[10:00] <kraftwerk> rgr
[10:00] <{{corona}}> sobersabre: hi sorry just anotherquery: can i use another distro live cd like linxBBC to clean up my filesystem?
[10:00] <sobersabre> {{corona}} as long as filesystem tools don't have a too old or too new filesystem, you're OK to use them,
[10:00] <sobersabre> you need a shell and the proper fsck
[10:00] <sobersabre> and IDE driver ; )
[10:01] <libertyaikido> libben: do have sudo rights on your account?
[10:01] <{{corona}}> sobersabre: ok thanks
[10:01] <dewp> mkey, now i deleted the fullsize hfs partition and created an 10gig partition for ubuntu with 2.3gb swap. i hope i can install os x later on the rest of free space without a problem
[10:01] <kraftwerk> Ok, copypasted. Where do I file the bug?
[10:01] <libertyaikido> libben: are you able to install software?
[10:01] <libben> yes. been using ubuntu/kubuntu for like 4 months now.
[10:01] <wlach> hey, I'm experimenting with using xterm instead of gnome-terminal.. I've noticed that when I press 'alt-f', 'alt-b', etc. it prints out an international character instead of jumping forward and backward in my terminal as I would expect. any ideas?
[10:02] <libertyaikido> libben: just checking.
[10:02] <ssam> probably best to file it at http://launchpad.net/
[10:02] <libben> any gui app for this ?
[10:02] <libben> for extracting iso
[10:02] <ssam> have you filed bug before?
[10:03] <kraftwerk> no, never
[10:03] <fre4k> how to pass the init 3 parameter to grub ...
[10:03] <bluefrog-10> libben, what do u mean by extractiong iso?
[10:03] <libertyaikido> libben: not that I know of.
[10:04] <kraftwerk> ok, I think I'll be able to figure the rest out myself. Thanks for helping!
[10:04] <libben> like in extract the content of it. but in linux u can mount them, like daemon tools for windows. and then just copy the files from there.
[10:04] <ssam> kraftwerk, well you need to give as much info as possible. things like what version of everything you are running (well not everything but ubuntu, kernel, nvidia drivers (if you think those are related), xmms)
[10:04] <ssam> kraftwerk, the backtrace is somehow very useful to devs (though i can't read them)
[10:04] <nalioth> libben: the copy protections built into the xbox iso may make it hard to mount
[10:05] <coreid> hi folks, I have a aironet wireless card (inbuilt) and am running 2.6.12-9-386 on my laptop and the initialization fails intermittently with following messages in the kern.log "unregister_netdevice ... waiting for eth0 to become free usage count 21" does anyone know how to circumvent this ?
[10:05] <libben> nalioth its not an original. its a backed up iso. so its ok that way
[10:05] <da|patrick> hmmm, whatever i try...
[10:05] <da|patrick> never does compiling work
[10:05] <ssam> kraftwerk, and tell them if you have anything unusual like amd64 or powerpc processor or something like that
[10:06] <da|patrick> what may the reason for this
[10:06] <mattt> is there a chkconfig equivalent on ubuntu/debian?
[10:06] <libertyaikido> libben: are you getting any error messages when trying to mount the iso?
[10:06] <sinizzl> how can i install libdvdcss ?
[10:06] <kraftwerk> ok, will do
[10:06] <coreid> /proc/driver/aironet had eth1 instead of eth0 before I tried to remove the module and reinsert it
[10:07] <libben> libertyaikido: mount: Not a directory
[10:07] <coreid> when this happens I have to reboot to reinitialize the module
[10:07] <msg43> Hi
[10:07] <bluefrog-10> libben, what command line are u sing?
[10:07] <libben> sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop mrn-king.iso /media/iso/
[10:07] <msg43> My cousin uses ndiswrapper and ubuntu
[10:07] <wlach> coreid: sounds like a bug that should be reported
[10:08] <msg43> he configures it by system->administartive->networking
[10:08] <bluefrog-10> libben, /media/iso exists?
[10:08] <wlach> coreid: unfortunately I don't know the solution to your problem
[10:08] <libben> yes.
[10:08] <msg43> but his settings are never remembers
[10:08] <libben> i created it with sudo mkdir /media/iso
[10:08] <bluefrog-10> libben, and is a directory?
[10:08] <bluefrog-10> ok
[10:08] <coreid> I guess heading to bugzilla then
[10:08] <jHo> is there a battery meter applet in kde?
[10:08] <odat> anyone know how to fix a corrupt superblock?
[10:09] <Bonarges> hallo all
[10:09] <fre4k> can anyone help me with this .....how to pass the init 3 parameter to grub ...
[10:09] <odat> i tried using e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda  but it doens't work
[10:09] <bonbon> mm
[10:09] <odat> neither does e2fsck [-b] 
[10:10] <bluefrog-10> libben, and if you give the full path of your iso, still the same?
[10:12] <libertyaikido> libben: try this ' mount -o loop -t iso9660 youriso.iso /media/iso'
[10:12] <Orborde> What's a good C++ IDE?
[10:12] <Orborde> I need a class browser so bad.
[10:12] <odat> anyone?
[10:12] <libertyaikido> libben: I know this works on Debian.
[10:12] <wlach> Orborde: some people like kdevelop
[10:12] <wlach> Orborde: I just prefer a console+emacs myself..
[10:13] <msg43> Hi
[10:13] <h08817> SGershon, did u get it setup?
[10:13] <da|patrick> could someone compile for me
[10:13] <msg43> my cousins gets an error when starting xorg
[10:13] <libben> sorry
[10:13] <libben> says the same
[10:13] <libertyaikido> libben: I just tried in on Ubuntu and it worked.
[10:13] <libben> no diffrence
[10:13] <da|patrick> i need three debs from the newest ati driver
[10:13] <Orborde> wlach: Thanks. I'm not cool enough for emacs :
[10:13] <libben> k
[10:13] <da|patrick> exported for ubuntu
[10:13] <sinizzl> how can i override totem to automatically start when i inserted a dvd ?
[10:13] <msg43> xorg says it is unable to open /etc/x11/xwrapper.confg
[10:13] <libben> can it be because its a xbox iso?
[10:14] <libertyaikido> libben: the option 'loop' was missing.
[10:14] <bluefrog-10> libben, mounting another works or not?
[10:14] <bluefrog-10> libben, mounting another iso works or not?
[10:14] <libben> dont have another iso. point me to a working small iso. like 5 mb and ill try
[10:14] <bluefrog-10> libben, not a xbox iso just plain nrmal
[10:15] <libertyaikido> libben: you can try this ' mount -o loop -t auto youriso.iso /media/iso'
[10:15] <blueblood> Any way to quickly reboot the soundserver?
[10:15] <libertyaikido> libben:
[10:15] <libertyaikido> libben: the size doesn't matter as far as I know.
[10:15] <msg43> can anyone help me?'
[10:15] <bluefrog-10> libertyaikido, he doesn't want to download a big stuff...
[10:16] <libben> yeah, would be a waste of 8 hour if i would hunt down a iso for just testing.
[10:16] <bluefrog-10> libben, get a tiny linux livecd
[10:16] <libben> why =)
[10:16] <bluefrog-10> libben, no adsl?
[10:16] <libertyaikido> bluefrog-10: he didn't was to download anything did he?  He wanted to mount x-Box iso and pull files from it.
[10:16] <libben> i have ubuntu/kubuntu
[10:16] <derek[] > hi
[10:16] <bluefrog-10> libben, as iso?
[10:16] <murr> where can i get the final OpenOffice.org 2.0 for ubuntu? i have the link somewhere and it was people.ubuntu.com/(something), but i don't remember what it was
[10:16] <libben> no
[10:16] <oknewbie> Quick question "does the sound for a wma file require a codec"
[10:17] <derek[] > does ubuntu install fine on 1680x1050 screen?
[10:17] <msg43> xorg says it is unable to open /etc/x11/xwrapper.confg because a file does not exsisted
[10:17] <libben> i mean , why download a livecd =) when i have fully working linux =)
[10:17] <sinizzl> what is the easiest way to get libdvdcss installed ?
[10:17] <derek[] > (15.4" LCD's native WSXGA resolution)
[10:17] <libben> apt-get install libdvdcss
[10:17] <libben> with sudo
[10:17] <sinizzl> libben
[10:17] <sinizzl> it doesn't find any sources
[10:17] <bluefrog-10> libben, then make an iso of one normal cd
[10:18] <sinizzl> no mirror available
[10:18] <libben> bluefrog-10: or just an iso of just 4 files ?
[10:18] <msg43> Anyone come on I need some help
[10:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sinizzl about libdvdcss2
[10:18] <msg43> one must know
[10:18] <bluefrog-10> libben, whatever as long it is an iso
[10:18] <bluefrog-10> libben, not coming from xbox so you will know where the problem lies
[10:18] <libertyaikido> libben: if you're trying to pull files off of an X-Box .iso image you can do it with 'sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 your.iso /media/iso'.
[10:19] <resolve> why does Mark Shuttleworth use kubuntu as his default o/s i mean is kubuntu better or something...
[10:19] <libertyaikido> libben: if still get an error replace 'iso9660' with 'auto'.
[10:19] <bluefrog-10> resolve tastes and colors are in human nature...
[10:19] <oknewbie> I like Kubuntu better so far, but I think it is more tast than anything else
[10:19] <Kyral> resolve, he just likes KDE
[10:19] <exalted> Hi. Can you please explain me the behaviour of Ubuntu to add an UID >= for users instead of using users GID (100)?
[10:19] <lando> I am trying to use the chown -R to place a directory in my possession that I mounted using sudo.  I am using the command chown -R username /directory of file and I am getting the message Operation not permitted
[10:20] <resolve> maybe but i was trying to figure out is ubuntu going to be shut down if his owner isnt using it
[10:20] <nalioth> resolve: it's all about personal preference
[10:20] <libben> libertyaikido: sorry, still says mount: Not a directory
[10:20] <fredforfaen> I have a issue , i cant burn mp3's to audiocd's after i upgraded to breezy....both gnomebaker and k3b complaints that they dont have the right plugin to handle mp3's...what to do?
[10:20] <Kyral> resolve, K/X/Ubuntu are the same things
[10:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fredforfaen about mp3
[10:20] <Kyral> Just different default configurations
[10:20] <lando> lol
[10:20] <libertyaikido> libben: /medie/iso exists?
[10:20] <resolve> ok all using the same engine? exept one as kde and the other gnome right?
[10:21] <libertyaikido> libben: /media/iso
[10:21] <thrush> lando: is this a ntfs partition? is it mouted read only?
[10:21] <Kyral> resolve, bingo
[10:21] <resolve> hooooo now i see cleared... the blind man can see!! ;)
[10:21] <Kyral> Same repos
[10:21] <libben> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 2005-11-12 21:49 iso
[10:21] <resolve> clearer*
[10:21] <Kyral> same people
[10:21] <libben> in /media
[10:21] <exalted> Doublication, because of an errata: Can you please explain me the behaviour of Ubuntu to add an GID >= for users instead of using users GID (100)?
[10:21] <Kyral> same spirit
[10:21] <resolve> ok so i prefer gnome so stickin with ubuntu
[10:21] <resolve> thx
[10:21] <msg43> HOw can I reconfigure the x server?
[10:21] <bluefrog-10> resolve kde,gnome,xfce and so on whatever suits your needs is the best desktop for you
[10:21] <oknewbie> I think so, but I tried to install kubuntu from the ISO and had a lot of problems, but when I went into ubuntu and used synaptic it worked fine.
[10:22] <bluefrog-10> msg43, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:22] <libertyaikido> libben: I don't know what to tell you then.  Did you try it with the auto option?
[10:23] <bluefrog-10> exalted what is your problem?
[10:23] <odat> anyone have any experience with e2fsck?
[10:23] <oknewbie> could someone tell me why I can here all of my media except win stuff
[10:23] <bluefrog-10> exalted, useradd starts at 1001 with ubuntu
[10:23] <lando> thrush: no, it has the permissions of 755 and I used the auto as the filesystem to mount the drive under.
[10:23] <dylan_> how do i format a disk in linux?  it is an external hard disk
[10:23] <exalted> blueblood: Why this behaviour instead of using users GID (100)?
[10:24] <msg43> bluefrog-10, it says there is not such package
[10:24] <lando> thrush: thanks for making me check
[10:24] <bluefrog-10> dylan_, connect it get gparted and format
[10:24] <axel> hello, i have a noob question, how do i uninstall something installed with a *.run, like enemy territory for example ?
[10:24] <libben> libertyaikido: yes, tried with auto
[10:24] <bluefrog-10> msg43, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[10:24] <bluefrog-10> msg43, no sry
[10:25] <fredforfaen> nalioth nothing there helps me....i wanna burn mp3's to audiocd.....
[10:25] <bluefrog-10> msg43, apt-get install build-essential
[10:25] <msg43> bluefrog-10, it was working before
[10:25] <msg43> bluefrog-10, I installed that
[10:25] <bluefrog-10> msg43, check for typo then
[10:25] <axel> Help, i have a noob question, how do i uninstall something installed with a *.run, like enemy territory for example ?
[10:25] <msg43> /etc/x11/xwrapper.confg
[10:26] <msg43> 
[10:26] <lando> dylan: is the disk floppy or hard drive disk?
[10:26] <bluefrog-10> axel, must be an uninstall file somewhere
[10:26] <oskude> axel, i doubt theres no easy way to uninstall that....
[10:26] <msg43> bluefrog-10, it says that there is no /etc/x11/xwrapper.confg when I try to do startx
[10:26] <msg43> and gdm won't run
[10:26] <ssam> msg43, may with a capital x in X11
[10:26] <axel> okay, well ill look into the files
[10:26] <libertyaikido> libben: WTF?  sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 your.iso /media/iso does not work?
[10:26] <bluefrog-10> msg43, guess u have played like mad with files tweaking, remove and such ...
[10:26] <libertyaikido> libben: What's the name of your iso?
[10:26] <msg43> bluefrog-10, no
[10:26] <ubugab> Hi, there..
[10:26] <libben> sudo mount -o loop -t auto mrn-king.iso /media/iso/
[10:27] <bluefrog-10> msg43, so when does it all started?
[10:27] <Stormx2> ubugab: Hai
[10:27] <libertyaikido> libben: remove the slash from the end of /media/iso/
[10:27] <lando> So does anyone have any ideas about the my chown -R issue?
[10:27] <bluefrog-10> msg43, did it start better english i presume
[10:27] <msg43> bluefrog-10, after nautilus crashed
[10:27] <libben> tried that also
[10:27] <msg43> on login
[10:27] <ubugab> I just installed the Ubuntu..
[10:27] <jgw_> how do i go about finding which x server ubuntu is using?
[10:28] <spanglesontoast> how can I get a bt voyager 105 working with ubuntu
[10:28] <libertyaikido> libben: are you currently in the same directory as your iso?
[10:28] <Zambba> jgw_: it's X.org
[10:28] <ignas> hi
[10:28] <libben> yes
[10:28] <ubugab> and i have some doubts
[10:28] <bluefrog-10> msg43, nautilus crashed ans sent u back to login screen?
[10:28] <libben> tried with full path also and with ~/xbox/foldername/isoname.iso
[10:28] <jgw_> zambba: well i know that, but what i mean is that i want to see if i'm using the generic x server or the one for my vid card
[10:29] <Zambba> oh
[10:29] <mattt>  wtf is up with the ubuntu versions?
[10:29] <Stormx2> ubugab: What doubts?
[10:29] <jgw_> i guess the xorg config would have somrthing?
[10:29] <Stormx2> mattt: What is there to explain? ;-)
[10:29] <ubugab> 'Cause the Instalation program didn't request a root password... and now that i want to use the command "su"...i have problems
[10:29] <Stormx2> !tell ubugab about root
[10:29] <dooglus> ubugab: use sudo and your own password
[10:29] <Stormx2> ubugab: Check your messages from ubotu
[10:29] <mattt> Stormx2, where do the numbers come from?  :)
[10:29] <Zambba> !tell zambba about root
[10:30] <odat> anyone have any experience with e2fsck?
[10:30] <mattt> odat:  yes, don't do it on a failing drive :)
[10:30] <jgw_> odat: what about it?
[10:30] <spanglesontoast> how can I get a bt voyager 105 working with ubuntu?
[10:30] <Stormx2> mattt: Well its just the different version. They have numbers and names. Hoary Hedgehog = version 4, Breezy badger = version 5 (current), Dapper Drake = version 6 (5 months away)
[10:30] <odat> jgw, i encountered an error about a corrupted superblock
[10:31] <mattt> odat:  use the backup superblock
[10:31] <ignas> how does one configure the touchpad on ubuntu ? i have installed the xorg synaptics driver, but the touchpad just ignores my xorg.conf settings :/
[10:31] <oskude> spanglesontoast, whats "bt voyager 105" ?
[10:31] <odat> jgw,  i have tried e2fsck [-b] 
[10:31] <mattt> Stormx2, thanx
[10:31] <spanglesontoast> adsl modem
[10:31] <odat> jgw,  and e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda but with no success
[10:31] <ssam> mattt, they are based on the date, year.month, eg october 2005 = 5.10
[10:31] <sunshine82> ok im trying to set up my webcam this is part okf the error im gettin http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4438
[10:31] <Centaur5> Wine is installed under chroot on my 64 bit but when trying to load wine it fails trying to create .wine directory, any ideas?
[10:31] <odat> jgw, is there something i'm missing do you how to use the backup superblock?
[10:31] <dooglus> ignas: look in the Xorg.0.log in /var/log and see if something about the touchpad was mentioned
[10:31] <mattt> ssam, ahhh, that makes more sense :)
[10:32] <odat> mattt, errr sorry do you know how to use the backup superblock?
[10:32] <ssam> mattt, i think the gentoo version numbers are more sensible
[10:32] <h08817> what is a good p2p program besides limewire
[10:32] <mattt> odat:  yes, the way you're doing it is right .....
[10:32] <Stormx2> h08817: Soulseek. Nicotine on ubuntu
[10:32] <h08817> !ubotu p2p
[10:32] <ubotu> h08817: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:32] <dooglus> h08817: bittorrent is good
[10:32] <dooglus> !p2p
[10:32] <libertyaikido> libben: this is a DVD isn't it?
[10:33] <odat> mattt, that stinks cuz ir refuses to do anything
[10:33] <odat> ir=it
[10:33] <ignas> dooglus, seemms like everything is ok
[10:33] <Stormx2> h08817: Nicotine is fanstastic for all your music needs ;-)
[10:33] <mattt> odat:  e2fsck -b 32768 /dev/hda2
[10:33] <mattt> odat:  i made a note the last time i had to use that
[10:33] <dooglus> ignas: are you using the standard kernel?
[10:33] <ignas> dooglus, yes
[10:34] <sunshine82> ive checked my linux header they are set
[10:34] <libben> libertyaikido: well yes. iso file is 1.3 gb
[10:34] <h08817> Stormx2, where can i get it from?
[10:34] <dooglus> ignas: ok.  the only time I've had my synaptic touchpad fail to work is when I built my own kernel and missed out some necessary modules
[10:34] <odat> mattt, is that the correct comman even though my file system is on hda1
[10:34] <odat> and or hda
[10:34] <sunshine82> ive changed the direction it lookin for the file in makefile
[10:34] <mattt> odat:  replace with the appropriate device ... i just copied that from my notes
[10:34] <ignas> dooglus, it works, but it ignores settings
[10:34] <dooglus> ignas: you can use the touchpad for basic movement, but the scrolling, corner taps and such like aren't working?
[10:34] <sunshine82> im runnin out of ideas
[10:34] <ignas> dooglus, I want to disable the click on the touchpad (so only buttons would work)
[10:34] <ignas> dooglus, but the "tap" still works
[10:34] <jrsims> weird. traceroute doesn't come with ubuntu?
[10:35] <dwhsi1> any reason *not* to use reiserfs as the filesystem on a new partition?
[10:35] <mattt> odat:  any luck?
[10:35] <odat> mattt, after you entered that information did you have to do anything else to make it work?>
[10:35] <dooglus> ignas: yes.  I think 'tap' works without a driver somehow.
[10:35] <ignas> dooglus, i want to disable it :/
[10:35] <Stormx2> h08817: Google "Nicotine Soulseek"
[10:35] <mattt> odat:  no, it fsck'd fine and i could mount the partition iirc
[10:35] <ivy> anyone from balkan???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[10:35] <Stormx2> ivy: Easy on the question marks.
[10:35] <oskude> jrsims, i got traceroute6
[10:36] <odat> mattt, i'm on the machine now i will need to reboot and try it from recoverymode
[10:36] <dooglus> ignas: right.  i've seen people here before with the same problem (although usually it's because the touchpad isn't a synaptics, but a (something else beginning with 'a'?)
[10:36] <mattt> odat:  ok, keep me posted
[10:36] <odat> mattt, thanks
[10:36] <dooglus> ignas: could you pastebin the appropriate part of your xorg.conf?
[10:36] <ivy> u mind
[10:36] <ssam> traceroute is in main
[10:38] <superbeast> how do i re-detect hardrives/ ipods?
[10:38] <mattt> yah, no traceroute on my box either ... weird.
[10:38] <ignas> dooglus,  http://paste.lisp.org/display/13519
[10:38] <oskude> i got "traceroute6" (didnt install it)
[10:38] <K_Dallas> Q: Would it be safe to remove a HD when it is not mounted? and system is running of course. thanks
[10:38] <wolffriend> hello
[10:39] <ssam> K_Dallas, and ide drive?
[10:39] <wolffriend> I need help with ApiHooks error
[10:39] <libertyaikido> libben: try udf instead of iso9660.
[10:39] <ssam> K_Dallas, an ide drive?
[10:39] <K_Dallas> ssam, it is on the same cable as a cdrom, ide, yes
[10:39] <libertyaikido> libben: and keep that slash off of the /mnt/iso
[10:39] <ssam> K_Dallas, then no
[10:39] <K_Dallas> oops, so need to reboot :( thanks
[10:39] <ssam> K_Dallas, ide is not hot plug able
[10:40] <K_Dallas> i see
[10:40] <sunshine82> im gettin a new error when i try and make http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4443
[10:40] <K_Dallas> well thought to save a reboot
[10:40] <ssam> K_Dallas, if it were firewire or usb then you could
[10:40] <K_Dallas> indeed
[10:40] <K_Dallas> well worth asking ;) you never know. thanks again
[10:40] <oskude> why cant i remove ide drive when not mounted (and pc on) ?
[10:40] <ignas> dooglus, just annotated with the info from Xorg.log
[10:41] <wolffriend> What do I have to do to fix apihooks error in diablo 2 using cedega 4.4.1
[10:41] <oskude> i got a flashcard/IDE adapter where i plug the flashcard in/out frequently...
[10:42] <Seveas> wolffriend, buy and install windows and play the game on windows
[10:42] <ssam> oskude, then you risk damaging the ide drive/flashcard
[10:42] <wolffriend> not an option sorry
[10:42] <ssam> oskude, ide is not designed to be hotplugged
[10:42] <Seveas> wolffriend, then download the source for cedega and start implementing the missing parts
[10:42] <oskude> ssam, i could think of that, but why ? what damages ? how ?
[10:43] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : 4926 mount -t nfs 192.168.0.21:/ /mnt/01
[10:43] <oskude> ssam, i havent have any damage loss yet..
[10:43] <lsuactiafner> mount: RPC: Program not registered
[10:43] <fletch33> ok i have a quick ?
[10:43] <wolffriend> it has worked before, this is a new install, and now it does not work
[10:43] <oskude> ssam, eeh, data loss..
[10:43] <cafuego_> lsuactiafner: Run postmap on both boxen and nfs-common on teh server.
[10:43] <ssam> oskude, i'd imagine the the electronic need to be turned off in a certain way, not just have power removed
[10:43] <cafuego_> eh, portmap
[10:43] <fletch33> i out 2 files on my desktop and they have locks on them and ubu wont let me delete them
[10:44] <defendguin> has anyone tried initng?
[10:44] <ssam> oskude, potential more serious than data loss
[10:44] <ssam> oskude, potentially*
[10:44] <lsuactiafner> cafuego_ : one is a slackware server the client is ubuntu 5.10
[10:44] <odat> mattt, hey matt still around?
[10:44] <jrsims> hey, how can I see my default gateway?
[10:44] <mattt> odat:  yeppers, how'd it go?
[10:44] <oskude> ssam, im with you and wouldn advice neither. just wanted to say that ive done it without damage
[10:44] <odat> mattt, didn't get any further says i have a bad magic number
[10:44] <cafuego_> lsuactiafner: The same applies.
[10:44] <mattt> odat:  dunno then man :(
[10:44] <lsuactiafner> slackware doesnt even have postmap
[10:45] <ssam> oskude, count your self lucky
[10:45] <oskude> ssam, :)
[10:45] <cafuego_> lsuactiafner: That was a typo, portmap.
[10:45] <odat> mattt,  k well thanks for trying
[10:45] <odat> :)
[10:45] <mattt> odat:  i only had to do it once, and fortunately it just worked
[10:45] <lsuactiafner> ah
[10:45] <ssam> oskude, i left my window open the other day when i went to uni, but i did not get burgled, but it was still silly
[10:46] <lsuactiafner> thanks
[10:46] <jrsims> Anyone know how I can identify the IP address of my default gateway from the console? Using ifconfig doesn't seem to show me this (like ipconfig on windows does). Help anyone?
[10:46] <sunshine82> ok i change the makefile o got this from http://nw802.sourceforge.net/faq.html
[10:46] <libertyaikido> Any idea how to get Firefox to suck less on Ubuntu?  It is much slower than Epiphany or Opera?  What's going on?
[10:47] <ulaas> there will be no new mono stack for breezy?
[10:47] <mattt> jrsims, netstat -rn?
[10:47] <jrsims> mattt: perfect. thanks.
[10:47] <mattt> np
[10:48] <sunshine82> im now gettin this error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4444
[10:48] <sunshine82> can anyone help please
[10:48] <Aven> hey
[10:48] <Aven> what do I need to make .jar files work?
[10:48] <Aven> on my server...
[10:48] <jrsims> mattt: for bonus points, do you know a way to see all ip addresses on my hub?
[10:49] <Iceman2k> http://pastebin.com/427089
[10:49] <mattt> jrsims:  nmap -sP?
[10:49] <lsuactiafner> cafuego_ : nfs-common, its not on slackware, not part of nfs-utils.
[10:49] <mattt> jrsims:  this will do a ping scan on your network, use with caution
[10:50] <lsuactiafner> export is set up correctly
[10:50] <jrsims> mattt: it's telling me no target machines specified. ideas?
[10:50] <lsuactiafner> the two slackware boxes can see each other
[10:50] <lsuactiafner> i still get the rpc error
[10:50] <lsuactiafner> ran portmap on both pcs
[10:51] <sunshine82> hello
[10:51] <mattt> jrsims, one sec, trying now ....
[10:51] <oskude> sunshine82, hmm, the error "make: *** /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/drivers/usb/media/usbvideo.c: Not a direc tory.  Stop." looks funny, it complains ...usbvideo.c is not a directory. correct. why it complains about that, dunno sry
[10:51] <lsuactiafner> jrsims : route -n
[10:52] <oskude> sunshine82, have you tried "sudo make" (but i didnt say that if something goes wrong :)
[10:53] <mattt> jrsims, nmap -sP 192.168.1.*
[10:53] <sunshine82> oskude ive fix that now that not the problem these are the right ones http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4443 http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4438
[10:53] <lvraab> does anyone have any experience involving the setup of nVidia video cards??
[10:54] <washegon> What's the prob (nvidia)
[10:54] <sunshine82> oskude ive tried sudo make i get the same error i paste at thouse two up there
[10:54] <lvraab> the online article that deals with it won't work easily
[10:54] <lvraab> due to the fact that I can't connect to the internet easily
[10:55] <lvraab> I've got a winmodem
[10:56] <javier> hi there
[10:56] <oskude> sunshine82, could be that something is not comapitble with the source code, like compiler, libraries, kernel...
[10:57] <libertyaikido> libben: any luck using udf instead of iso9660
[10:57] <libertyaikido> ?
[10:57] <sunshine82> oskude but i dont know how to check that
[10:57] <lsuactiafner> i ran portmap on both pcs.. still get mount: RPC: Program not registered
[10:57] <javier> id like to know how can i make that during the boot, my modem connects automatically to the server, i mean, how can i make that during the bootup, the command startadsl executes???
[10:57] <cafuego_> lsuactiafner: After starting postmap, restart the nfs server.
[10:57] <Paradoxx> !samba
[10:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[10:57] <cafuego_> lsuactiafner: (again, typo !@UIY!&*(Y&*()
[10:58] <oskude> sunshine82, what are you trying to compile ?
[10:58] <cafuego_> lsuactiafner: And make sure portmap is allowed via /etc/hosts.{deny,allow}
[10:58] <lsuactiafner> cafuego_ : nfs server already had portmap running from october
[10:58] <lsuactiafner> but will restart
[10:58] <sunshine82> oskude my webcam  this file keep comin up to be error one ake[2] : *** [/home/sunshine/nw802-2.4/nw8xx_jpgl.o]  Error 1#
[10:59] <libertyaikido> test
[10:59] <libertyaikido> libertyaikido
[10:59] <sunshine82> oskude ive tried lookin on the web and searchin for the file i found a copy and i gedit and replace itand that didnt work i put it back after
[11:00] <oskude> sunshine82, ist a usb webcam ?
[11:00] <sunshine82> oskude yes
[11:00] <oskude> sunshine82, do you find it with "lsusb" ?
[11:01] <sunshine82> oskude ill try that now
[11:02] <sunshine82> oskude i believe it this one Bus 001 Device 005: ID 06be:d001 AME Optimedia Technology Co., Ltd
[11:02] <sunshine82> oskude ame is the company name of the webcam
[11:02] <felipe_> I just bought a digital copy of A feast for crows, I had no problem openning it on windows but now on linux when I try to open Acrobat REader says I'm missing some plugin
[11:03] <Madpilot> felipe_: "some plugin"?
[11:03] <oskude> sunshine82, and where did you download your drivers for it ? (the thing you try to compile)
[11:04] <sunshine82> oskude http://sourceforge.net/projects/nw802
[11:04] <felipe_> Madpilot, it says: The current file cannot be viewed because a plug-in is not available in the current configuration.
[11:04] <cayax> Hello to all
[11:04] <Boobek> re
[11:04] <Madpilot> felipe_: it doesn't say which plugin?
[11:04] <robertj_> hrmm, i'm getting Direct Rendering: no for my savage8 on breezy
[11:04] <cayax> Somebody that speak Spanish?
[11:04] <Madpilot> !es
[11:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:05] <felipe_> Madpilot, nop, I downloaded the ebx.etd file from amazon again but it seems it doesnt works on linux
[11:05] <SWAT> evening all
[11:05] <Madpilot> felipe_: Acrobat Reader for Linux is not as up to date as the Windows/OSX editions of Reader... complain to Adobe about it, I guess
[11:05] <cayax> viva el presidente Lagos
[11:06] <SWAT> I have a problem with my scanner. I don't know how to find it in /dev/   and why it says with "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices" with my scanner: Driver=none
[11:06] <SWAT> help?
[11:06] <cayax> y abajo fuji
[11:06] <oskude> sunshine82, OMG its a kernel-module, sry dont have any experience with those. and its from 2003, so dunno if it even works on the current breezy kernel...
[11:07] <felipe_> Madpilot, That sucks...
[11:07] <lsuactiafner> cafuego_ : getting mount: 192.168.0.21:/ failed, reason given by server: Permission denied weird since i have the entry /            gw(rw,no_root_squash,sync)
[11:07] <libben> libertyaikido: no luck with udf
[11:07] <lsuactiafner> cafuego_ : but making progress.
[11:07] <felipe_> cayax, escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[11:07] <libben> gonna try burn the iso and see if it points out an error
[11:07] <cayax> ok, gracias felipe
[11:07] <cafuego_> robertj_: With an S3, that's not particularly surprising. Do the Xorg docs say it ought to work?
[11:07] <sunshine82> oskude last question what is omg
[11:07] <lsuactiafner> insecure helped
[11:07] <lsuactiafner> thanks for the help cafuego_
[11:07] <cafuego_> lsuactiafner: exporting root as read-write eh? Tssk. That's how I haxored a box once ;-)
[11:07] <oskude> sunshine82, but you could test these instructions http://nw802.sourceforge.net/news.html (OMG = Oh My God:)
[11:07] <gnomefreak> does anyone have a list of the backports for breezy by chance??
[11:08] <mdke> my friend has a problem where he runs the install, and it stops when the installation tries to access the package postgresql on the cd. The folder on the cd is empty. He has checked the validity of the cd and the md5sum. any ideas?
[11:08] <gnomefreak> ive been away too long :(
[11:08] <robertj_> cafuego: where would I look for that
[11:08] <lsuactiafner> cafuego_ : box is behind firewall, only a 1G disk to be a media centre in the living room
[11:09] <Madpilot> gnomefreak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[11:09] <sunshine82> oskude im there already tried doesnt work
[11:09] <gnomefreak> ty Madpilot
[11:09] <mdke> hey nelson_
[11:09] <cafuego_> lsuactiafner: *nod* Still :-)
[11:09] <mdke> hey NGenesis
[11:09] <oskude> sunshine82, "patch -p0 < patch-2.6" ?
[11:09] <NGenesis> Hey mdke
[11:09] <oskude> sunshine82, did this work "patch -p0 < patch-2.6" ?
[11:09] <mdke> NGenesis, i already outlined your problem
[11:09] <lsuactiafner> the boxen protecting it is a locked down slackware and my dailup is so slow you will have huge problems sshing in even if i open it up and give you root access ect
[11:09] <mdke> NGenesis, no one has replied yet
[11:09] <NGenesis> Ok
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> another stupid/genius thing, ttl for ssh packets are 2
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> is 2
[11:11] <blueblood> Anyone here using Jed for textediting?
[11:11] <libertyaikido> libben: what does 'ls -l /media/iso' show?
[11:12] <oskude> libertyaikido, "man ls" -1     list one file per line
[11:12] <sunshine82> oskude tried it it say patching file nw802.c
[11:12] <sunshine82> Hunk #10 succeeded at 770 with fuzz 2.
[11:12] <mdke> anyone got any ideas on that installation problem?
[11:12] <libertyaikido> libben: huh?  what is the output from 'ls -l /media/iso'?
[11:12] <oskude> sunshine82, well sry, but i can hardly help you compile a kernel module and then use it... :(
[11:13] <oskude> libertyaikido, sry, i thought i wanted to know what "ls -l" shows, lol. sry
[11:13] <oskude> libertyaikido, i=you
[11:13] <ColD_7> can ubuntu play .avi file?
[11:13] <libervisco> hey
[11:13] <sunshine82> oskude make clean give me this rm -f usbvideo.h usbvideo.c *.o *.ko *~ *.mod.c
[11:13] <libertyaikido> libben: sorry, to you too.  I just realized why you said that.
[11:13] <siimo> ColD_7, yes
[11:14] <libervisco> don't tell me mplayer can be installed from synaptic in breezy :O
[11:14] <libervisco> :D
[11:14] <siimo> !tell ColD_7 codecs
[11:14] <Seveas> it can
[11:14] <libertyaikido> oskude: sorry, to you too.  I just realized why you said that.
[11:14] <Seveas> in hoary too
[11:14] <mdke> libervisco, sure
[11:14] <ColD_7> siimo, what player should be used? or how to do it?
[11:14] <libervisco> awesome!
[11:14] <siimo> !codecs
[11:14] <ubotu> well, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:14] <gnomefreak> libervisco, yes it can be if im not mistaken
[11:14] <siimo> ColD_7, there
[11:15] <oskude> sunshine82, sry but kernel module compiling is out of my knowledge... (and VERY har to explain in IRC, i assume)
[11:15] <siimo> ColD_7, you can use totem once you install the codecs
[11:15] <libervisco> So I can upgrade hoary to breezy using breezy install CD?
[11:15] <Seveas> libervisco, for the most
[11:15] <ColD_7> siimo, thanks
[11:15] <sunshine82> ok is there anyone in here who can help me this is the error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4445
[11:15] <_shevron> can anyone help me getting my webcam working under ubuntu linux? :) i have a philips DMVC 300K webcam (funcam) and ubuntu 5.10 installed :) amsn(cvs-version) and gnomeeting both jsut detect my tv-capture-card...
[11:15] <Seveas> you need to download things too
[11:15] <mdke> libervisco, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[11:15] <gnomefreak> ok now i cant get var to lock the downloads :(
[11:15] <siimo> libervisco, i suggest through the internet if you have high speed, it will be much easier
[11:16] <libervisco> I don't have high speed
[11:16] <libervisco> so I guess I'll combine CD with the net
[11:16] <crimsun> sunshine82: sec
[11:16] <ok_newbie> I forgot could someone tell me the command to clean up the registry
[11:17] <libervisco> first upgrade from CD and then change repos and take the rest from the net, or minimize upgrades by first cleaning up the less needed stuff and then upgrading what's left
[11:17] <karlheg> Microsoft: "Easy to use."
[11:17] <karlheg> Ubuntu: "Natural to use."
[11:17] <siimo> libervisco, what you can do is copy all the .deb files from the CD in /var/cache/apt/archives  and then do the internet upgrade procedure
[11:17] <oskude> ok_newbie, registry ?
[11:17] <Xenguy> ok_newbie: what registry?
[11:17] <crimsun> sunshine82: what are you trying to compile?
[11:17] <siimo> assuming the CD has .debs
[11:17] <Paradoxx> !samba
[11:17] <ubotu> hmm... samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[11:17] <libervisco> mdke, that howto is for hoary :)
[11:17] <libervisco> siimo, good idea :)
[11:17] <mdke> libervisco, it applies equally to breezy
[11:18] <mdke> libervisco, try it, and if it works, update the page :)
[11:18] <ok_newbie> My audio dropped out and it said that the registy needed to be cleaned
[11:18] <NGenesis> Is there anyway to skip packages during the installation process in 5.10?
[11:18] <libervisco> mdke, sure :)
[11:18] <siimo> NGenesis, install server (base install)
[11:18] <libervisco> mdke, I've read here though that it can be installed with synaptic http://distrocenter.linux.com/comments.pl?sid=35886&cid=85836 :)
[11:18] <mdke> siimo, he needs to skip packages which are in -base
[11:18] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about EVMS? Or what device dm-7 is?
[11:18] <libervisco> in a comment
[11:18] <oskude> ok_newbie, who said ? and exactly what ?
[11:18] <sunshine82> crimsun my webcam
[11:18] <mdke> libervisco, that wiki page will tell you how to install it with synaptic
[11:19] <ok_newbie> maybe thaat was register
[11:19] <siimo> NGenesis, what package you need to skip and why
[11:19] <ssam> ok_newbie, the the gstreamer registry
[11:19] <gnomefreak> Madpilot, is that backport working for you?
[11:19] <NGenesis> postgresql8.0
[11:19] <ok_newbie> that would be it
[11:19] <oskude> crimsun, she/he is trying to compile a kernel module for webcam
[11:19] <gnomefreak> its not working for me :(
[11:19] <ssam> ok_newbie, gst-register-0.8
[11:19] <NGenesis> Because it doesnt appear to exist in the cdrom
[11:19] <libervisco> mdke, oh, right :)
[11:19] <siimo> NGenesis, you have the ubuntu server cd?
[11:19] <ok_newbie> thanx
[11:20] <NGenesis> Unsure, just the standard from ubuntu's download site
[11:20] <ssam> ok_newbie, no problem
[11:20] <gnomefreak> it keeps giving me unable to lock the download directory
[11:20] <libervisco> anyway.. I might also save configs and do a clean install :)
[11:20] <mdke> NGenesis, no, you have the desktop version
[11:20] <balazs> hello
[11:20] <libervisco> thanks mdke, siimo, Seveas and gnomefreak :)
[11:20] <sunshine82> crimsun any ideas
[11:21] <gnomefreak> libervisco, yw
[11:21] <crimsun> sunshine82: did you copy the correct Makefile as instructed?
[11:21] <mike4263> how to set the inital root passwd?
[11:21] <johnw> Grub can't see my scsi hardrive (it's hd2) on boot!!!!!!!
[11:21] <oskude> anyone using like 4 distros on 1 hd, how do u manage them ? grub ?
[11:21] <libervisco> cya
[11:21] <FlannelKing> yes oskude, grub
[11:21] <Madpilot> gnomefreak: I'm not using it, actually, I just had the URL handy
[11:21] <gnomefreak> mike4263, the sudo password is same as user password
[11:22] <nitrocks> i am having trouble deleting files off of a usb thumb drive.. it seems to have some corrupted partitions.. in fdisk, it tells me that there are 4 partitions, some of which overlap eachother.  when i try to write to it w/ fdisk it says "unable to write /dev/sdc1".. any ideas?
[11:22] <psusi> johnw: are you sure it can't see it or maybe it just sees it in a different place than you think
[11:22] <mike4263> au
[11:22] <gnomefreak> ok ty Madpilot
[11:22] <mike4263> *ah
[11:22] <mike4263> they make it so you cant login as root?
[11:22] <oskude> FlannelKing, roger
[11:22] <antix> how do I take an image of a lvm partition?  it should preferebly be compressed
[11:22] <gnomefreak> nitrocks, please dont paste in here
[11:22] <johnw> psusi: it doesn't see hd2 at all
[11:22] <johnw> psusi: it only sees my 2 IDE drives
[11:22] <FlannelKing> I'm getting a buffered I/O error on device dm-7, anyone know anything about it? (EVMS I think?)
[11:22] <psusi> johnw: how do you know?
[11:22] <johnw> psusi: hd0, hd1
[11:22] <mike4263> how do i config my x server?
[11:22] <psusi> johnw: is your scsi bios enabled?
[11:22] <johnw> psusi: on boot, you can press tab when editing where root is.  those are the only options it gives.
[11:22] <FlannelKing> johnw, aren't scsi drives sd#?
[11:22] <sunshine82> crimsun u talkin about this website http://nw802.sourceforge.net/news.html
[11:23] <cafuego_> !xcfg
[11:23] <ubotu> cafuego_: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:23] <crimsun> sunshine82: yes
[11:23] <johnw> psusi; is my bios scsi enbaled?
[11:23] <cafuego_> !xcfg is <reply> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:23] <ubotu> okay, cafuego_
[11:23] <fanopnaic> does anybody know a replacement for klipper? (I only need clipboard synchronization)
[11:23] <johnw> psusi: yes
[11:23] <nitrocks> are there any other utilities that i should try to use besides fdsik for partition management?
[11:23] <cafuego_> mike4263: In the same way i just told ubotu.
[11:23] <psusi> johnm: if your scsi bios is enabled then grub should detect the drive
[11:23] <cafuego_> nitrocks: parted, perhaps.
[11:23] <johnw> psusi: ok thanks
[11:24] <johnw> new question.
[11:24] <psusi> oh wait
[11:24] <mike4263> what do i need to install for an ati card
[11:24] <antix> what do you ppl use for backup of your systems?
[11:24] <johnw> how do I change the $PATH variable
[11:24] <gnomefreak> nevermind Madpilot  the updater was working on finding them im assuming now that the pc downstairs is online :( if i knew that this powerline adapter was so slow i wouldnt have spent the 150 dollars on it :(
[11:24] <johnw> psusi: what?
[11:24] <cafuego_> antix: rsync and a duplicate server
[11:24] <sunshine82> crimsun yeah ive done it ive got this error when i get tok make http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4446
[11:24] <mike4263> set PATH=$PATH:/new/path
[11:24] <antix> cafuego_, no image?
[11:24] <psusi> what does your /boot/grub/devices.map say?
[11:24] <omeg> Hi guys. Do you guys know any good free or open source sound editor?
[11:24] <johnw> mike4263: permanently
[11:24] <Seveas> antix, tar,gzip,ssh,rsync :)
[11:24] <Seveas> omeg, audacity
[11:24] <mike4263> oh
[11:24] <omeg> I heard of that. Googling.
[11:24] <mike4263> put that line in your .bashrc file
[11:24] <mike4263> you could change /etc/profile
[11:24] <johnw> mike4263: thanks
[11:25] <SymGeosis> Anybody have any ideas for a good set of C++ bindings for either MySQL or ODBC (preferably ODBC)?
[11:25] <antix> Seveas, can you easily restore your system on a new disk if the current goes bad?
[11:25] <mike4263> if you want a system wide change
[11:25] <omeg> Thanks.
[11:25] <sunshine82> crimsun there is somethin up with ths file nw8xx_jpgl.h abd usbvideo i just cant figure it out
[11:25] <mike4263> whats the ati driver called?
[11:25] <SymGeosis> I've found a few in the package tree but they seem "questionable".
[11:25] <Seveas> antix, fairly easy
[11:25] <mike4263> how do i search the directories from the cmd line?
[11:26] <mike4263> sweet
[11:26] <blueblood> Anyone got any idea why <TAB> dont indent in Jed? Nothing happens when I press <TAB>
[11:26] <mike4263> aptitude is hot
[11:26] <antix> cafuego_, do you have a duplicate server which is used just for that?
[11:26] <mdke> mike4263, the command "find" which search for you from the command line
[11:26] <ulaas> is dapper safe to dist up at the moment?
[11:26] <lsuactiafner> mike4263 : locate file
[11:26] <marlun> Theres a .php file which I got from an archive which was rw-r--r--, first I could not change it so I had to make it rw-rw-rw, now I can change it but not save it, how come I can't save it?
[11:26] <mdke> ulaas, of course not
[11:26] <cafuego_> SymGeosis: There's myodbc (and libmysqlclient)
[11:26] <antix> Seveas, but you have to install the system again? wouldn't an image be easier?
[11:27] <marlun> gedit only sayd "Could not save the file /path/to/file"
[11:27] <SymGeosis> cafuego_, have you used either of these? Can you vouch for their quality?
[11:27] <ulaas> mdke, uh. you replied so quick that i believed you instantly..
[11:27] <Pupeno> Which one should I choose for my video divx4 ? 5 ? xvid 4?
[11:27] <Seveas> antix, perhaps
[11:27] <gnomefreak> is anjuta concidered GNU?
[11:27] <Seveas> I never actually needed it ;)
[11:27] <cafuego_> antix: No, it's used for something else, but I can reboot it as lukewarm-spare
[11:27] <mdke> ulaas, well it's been in development about 3 weeks, 2 of which the devs have been working on the conference
[11:27] <nitrocks> why is it that fdisk and parted tell me that /dev/sdc1 will be opened as read only.. even when mount tells me that the device is mounted with read and write?
[11:27] <FlannelKing> The bootup screen thing (before you get to x and ubuntu) is saved in a log file somewhere, yes?  where?
[11:27] <cafuego_> Pupeno: ogg theora
[11:27] <ulaas> mdke, then it is most probably not that broken :)
[11:27] <mmiikkee12> w00t, i have breezy installed :)
[11:28] <mdke> ulaas, it's installable. but not safe, naturally
[11:28] <mmiikkee12> now a few questions
[11:28] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12, congrats
[11:28] <oskude> nitrocks, some flash-things have a RW stiwch (like floppies)
[11:28] <mmiikkee12> 1: how do i change the refresh rate?
[11:28] <mmiikkee12> 60hz is really annoying
[11:28] <psusi> nitrocks, because they are opening the device in read only mode of course
[11:28] <mdke> ulaas, when I checked today, ubuntu-desktop was installable, but that will probably already not be the case
[11:28] <gnomefreak> right click the desktop and click on settings
[11:28] <gnomefreak> i lied
[11:28] <antix> cafuego_, but you must also take some backup so you can go back in time to a point where the system was ok? else you will just have 2 bad systems?
[11:28] <Pupeno> cafuego_: that is not an option.
[11:29] <mmiikkee12> that's windows ;)
[11:29] <ulaas> mdke, got it. we are expecting something to go into backports soon right?
[11:29] <cafuego_> antix: Yeah, just a few DVDs
[11:29] <gnomefreak> system than prefferences mmiikkee12
[11:29] <mdke> ulaas, i know nothing about backports I'm afraid, i don't use them
[11:29] <mike4263> anybody know about the ati drivers?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> than screen resolotion mmiikkee12
[11:30] <mmiikkee12> ok, but 60 hz is the only one in the list
[11:30] <antix> cafuego_, what do you use for making the dvd backup?
[11:30] <cafuego_> antix: Of course, the initial system is raided, so passing an actual fire not much can go wrong.
[11:30] <oskude> mike4263, i once installed the "official" ati drivers form them, worked...
[11:30] <cafuego_> antix: I burn 'em in gnome.
[11:30] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12, older moniter or older video card?
[11:30] <mmiikkee12> this is really hard to read.
[11:30] <cafuego_> s/passing/barring/
[11:30] <antix> cafuego_, so ppl don't take images? :)
[11:30] <mmiikkee12> it was supported in debian 3.1...
[11:30] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12, what is the res. set at 1200?
[11:30] <mmiikkee12> gateway ev700
[11:31] <marlun> Okey found out that it was because of the chmod of the directory the files were in.
[11:31] <antix> cafuego_, I would think it's easier to restore?
[11:31] <mmiikkee12> 1280x1024
[11:31] <cafuego_> antix: For a desktop, there's 'sbackup' that goes into your admin menu.
[11:31] <mmiikkee12> and intel 810 video
[11:31] <ulaas> mdke, thanx anyway man!
[11:31] <gnomefreak> can u change it to 1024X768?
[11:31] <mdke> ulaas, no problem
[11:31] <cafuego_> antix: It's a remote box, it would be pointless.
[11:31] <Delvien> Is there some kind of weather applet for KDE panel?
[11:31] <mmiikkee12> yes...
[11:31] <gnomefreak> does it fix the issue?
[11:31] <antix> cafuego_, ok it's a server I need backedup
[11:31] <mmiikkee12> no, still only 60hz
[11:32] <antix> cafuego_, ok in that case :)
[11:32] <cafuego_> antix: If it dies, I tell the hoster to trash it, reinstall it, give me an ssh passwd. Then I re-add the /etc and 'dpkg --get-selections' status :-)
[11:32] <cafuego_> ... a bit of rsync later it's back.
[11:32] <totaka> Hi doesn anyone know which conf file of apache2 I should put server name?
[11:32] <crimsun> sunshine82: that Makefile is broken
[11:32] <crimsun> sunshine82: you need to install linux-source-2.6.12
[11:32] <mmiikkee12> gnomefreak: didn't work
[11:32] <oskude> totaka, /etc/apache/apache2.conf, mabe
[11:32] <crimsun> sunshine82: then extract it inside /usr/src
[11:32] <totaka> oskude: Thank you :)
[11:32] <crimsun> sunshine82: then edit the 2.6 Makefile
[11:32] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12, have you tried to configure your x- setup yet?
[11:33] <oskude> totaka, im not sure, but look there
[11:33] <mmiikkee12> gnomefreak: was i supposed to...?
[11:33] <antix> cafuego_, ok but there's always a lot of tweaking that you would have to do again I guess. but most is in /etc I guess so you might be ok with that
[11:33] <totaka> oskude: Thanx, there is no mention of servername in apache2.conf, but I will try
[11:34] <gnomefreak> normally no but i wasnt there to install it all for you i dont know what its seeing as in generic card or the intel card
[11:34] <sunshine82> crimsun ive got linux souce download
[11:34] <Logarithm> Hey, does ubuntu have a working http server included?
[11:34] <mmiikkee12> gnomefreak: is it really hard to configure? (this is one of the few things i've never done with linux)
[11:34] <SymGeosis> Logarithm, Apache exists in the repos.
[11:35] <oskude> Logarithm, apt-get install apache ;)
[11:35] <Logarithm> Okay
[11:35] <Logarithm> :)
[11:35] <crimsun> sunshine82: then change the reference to the source in the Makefile
[11:35] <Madpilot> !tell Logarithm about apache
[11:35] <Logarithm> Im decided between either ubuntu or slack
[11:35] <SymGeosis> Logarithm, there is also Cherokee.
[11:35] <Logarithm> Does it have GCC?
[11:35] <sunshine82> crimsun ok i fix makefile for usbvideo i mv the usbvideo out of the linux source and into the file that make file said was in
[11:35] <tga> how about lighttpd
[11:35] <SymGeosis> Logarithm, *every* *nix OS has GCC. =)
[11:35] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12,  not really but i cant remember the command :( i wanna say its gedit x-session/xorg but its been so long
[11:35] <Logarithm> :)
[11:36] <SymGeosis> tga, I don't think that's in the repos...
[11:36] <SymGeosis> tga, though I like it alot. =)
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> SymGeosis : and it shoudl be included as a default..
[11:36] <tga> hmm.. good point
[11:36] <tga> boa? :)
[11:36] <mmiikkee12> uh...
[11:36] <oskude> well, apache is the most used OSS http server, so as beginner you get the best help, me thinks---
[11:36] <gnomefreak> anyone remember the command for the x-org config?
[11:36] <SymGeosis> gnomefreak, there are several. =)
[11:37] <cafuego_> !xcfg
[11:37] <ubotu> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:37] <SymGeosis> gnomefreak, you mean the dpkg one?
[11:37] <gnomefreak> i think thats the one he would want
[11:37] <mmiikkee12> ok
[11:37] <mmiikkee12> hold on
[11:37] <mmiikkee12> what's the root pswd?
[11:38] <mmiikkee12> it didn't ask me for one
[11:38] <gnomefreak> your user password
[11:38] <Madpilot> mmiikkee12: there is no such thing
[11:38] <Madpilot> !tell mmiikkee12 about root
[11:38] <gnomefreak> sudo= user password
[11:38] <sunshine82> crimsun i tried changin the reference that didnt work this is the new error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4447
[11:38] <oskude> but you can make one with "sudo passwd"
[11:38] <crimsun> sunshine82: the source is broken, I've already verified
[11:38] <mmiikkee12> ok, it's working
[11:38] <gnomefreak> that came out wrong :(
[11:38] <crimsun> sunshine82: you will have to contact the upstream developer(s) to have him(them) fix it
[11:38] <mmiikkee12> i can do this in gnome-terminal right?
[11:38] <sunshine82> crimsun ok
[11:39] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12, thats where it should be
[11:39] <Orborde> Is the fglrx driver package the Official ATI Binary Kernel, or something else?
[11:39] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12, its gonna be colorfull i think its blue
[11:39] <oskude> Orborde, i assume somehing else, right ?
[11:39] <crimsun> Orborde: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto ?
[11:39] <mmiikkee12> configing it now, hold on
[11:39] <Orborde> oskude: I dunno. I'm asking you :P
[11:40] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12, before you get to the moniter part make sure it has the right one
[11:40] <gnomefreak> same with card mmiikkee12
[11:40] <mmiikkee12> Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[11:40] <rubin> hmm after i installed gstreamer and win32 codecs, totem started playing video real jerky
[11:40] <oskude> crimsun, so thats the Official ATI binary driver ?
[11:41] <crimsun> oskude: yes, the redistributable binary-only one.
[11:41] <mmiikkee12> gnomefreak or anyone: Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[11:41] <gnomefreak> btw for the person asking about boa i think debian has it im not so sure ubuntu has it tho
[11:41] <oskude> crimsun, thanks
[11:41] <cafuego_> !info boa
[11:41] <ubotu> boa: (Lightweight and High Performance WebServer), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 0.94.14rc20-1.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 113 kB, Installed size: 364 kB
[11:42] <oskude> Orborde, yes. as i see, when calling "binary driver" its the "official" driver form manufacturer...
[11:42] <gnomefreak> cafuego_, ty i dont ever remember seeing it
[11:42] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12,  sure go for it
[11:43] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12, ill be back in a few time for a smoke
[11:44] <mmiikkee12> it detected my monitor as "generic monitor
[11:45] <Myrtti> erm
[11:46] <cafuego_> !info libc6 dapper
[11:46] <ubotu> libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.5-1ubuntu12 (dapper), Packaged size: 4772 kB, Installed size: 15436 kB
[11:46] <mmiikkee12> hold on, i might be able to get it
[11:46] <mmiikkee12> (and wtf is a breezy badger btw?)
[11:46] <oskude> is there a typo in here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto they say only for 9500 and up, but ati website says 8500 and up ?
[11:46] <Orborde> mmiikkee12: A badger in the breeze
[11:47] <gnomefreak> breezy badger is ubuntu 5.10 :)
[11:47] <mmiikkee12> how do i restart x?
[11:47] <Orborde> oskude: Have any idea whether it applies to ATI Radeon Xpress 200M ??
[11:47] <Dasnipa`> a swift breeze blowing up the skirt of a badger
[11:47] <crimsun> mmiikkee12: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[11:47] <cafuego_> oskude: The thing is, for < 9500, the free driver works.
[11:47] <SymGeosis> mmiikkee12, ctrl-alt-del
[11:47] <mmiikkee12> even worse, what's a dapper drake?
[11:47] <SymGeosis> mmiikkee12, ctrl-alt-backspace.
[11:47] <mmiikkee12> ok
[11:47] <SymGeosis> sorry.
[11:47] <cafuego_> oskude: And if you cna get away with not using fglrx, that is a good thing[tm] , coz it's shit.
[11:47] <mmiikkee12> brb
[11:48] <gnomefreak> im assuming dapper beta is out?
[11:48] <crimsun> god no
[11:48] <crimsun> we haven't even begun serious development on it yet
[11:48] <oskude> cafuego_, yeah, but someone said fglrx = official ati driver ?
[11:48] <SymGeosis> gnomefreak, not for a couple of months.
[11:48] <gnomefreak> well we got backports so i figured the beta was atleast out
[11:48] <cafuego_> gnomefreak: Just in the archives, it's breezy with a 6.04 badge ;-)
[11:48] <ompaul> gnomefreak, dapper is there - it is before beta if that is possible - use only if you fully understand it :-)
[11:48] <gnomefreak> oh ok ty
[11:48] <ompaul> gnomefreak,  i.e. second machine you can afford to break
[11:49] <gnomefreak> ompaul, im not touching it for a while lol
[11:49] <bluefoxicy> How the frick do I share a printer
[11:49] <Orborde> Dapper is currently at a stage where it is NOT for the faint of heart
[11:49] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, thats fairly easy
[11:49] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  do tell?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> is the printer on a pc with a router?
[11:49] <oskude> cafuego_, and how is the OSS ati driver called ? has it GOOD 3D acceleration ?
[11:49] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  there's not a "share this printer" in gnome cups manager
[11:50] <javier> h all!
[11:50] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  it's connected to a PC via USB; PC is connected to a router.
[11:50] <cafuego_> oskude: It's called 'ati' and seems fine, yes.
[11:50] <Orborde> cafuego_: fglrx == ATI Official Manufacturer's Driver ??
[11:50] <oskude> cafuego_, i prefer OSS too, but not over performance :(
[11:50] <gnomefreak> good bluefoxicy
[11:50] <javier> i have a problem, i have downloaded mplayer and all packages which contain the word codecs, but when i open a wmv file, i can see it :(
[11:50] <cafuego_> Orborde: Yep
[11:50] <javier> what could i do???
[11:50] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  printer->Computer->(Network)->Computer
[11:50] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, in the cups set up set the pc without the printer to network and the printer with pc to local
[11:51] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, before you go there do you know the routers ip address?
[11:51] <lvraab> I've got an nVidia card, but before I bought that card, I had an Intel video chipset; after I installed 5.10, X failed to start; would the Intel chipset be conflicting the nVidia card??
[11:51] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak: 192.168.1.1 of course
[11:51] <oskude> cafuego_, you dont use 3d do you  ;)
[11:51] <fletch33> hello all since ia m brand new to this and completely feelinf lost is there a book or anyhting that will help me with ubu or maybe something about linux in general that you can recommend that will help
[11:51] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  I know my network, don't worry about that.  I also know how to setu p a local printer.
[11:52] <fletch33> i know windows like the back of my hand and this is driving me crazy but i want to switch
[11:52] <gnomefreak> good bluefoxicy  when it asks you for a hostname/ipadress that is the one you want
[11:52] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  also, the computers are on DHCP so the IP can change.
[11:52] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  why do I want the router's IP?  The printer isn't connected to it
[11:53] <gnomefreak> the printer is on pc with router and modem right?
[11:53] <fletch33> is it the only way asking here and trial and error
[11:53] <bluefoxicy> oh for fuck's
[11:53] <mmiikkee12> it worked :)
[11:53] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  printer->computer->router->(cable_modem; other computer)
[11:53] <monteiro> when i install my hp printer and choose printout mode, as draft, the printer only prints in "normal", anyone knows how to solve this ?
[11:53] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  the router is its own node, it's a small box with network jacks.
[11:54] <mmiikkee12> next thing... to change the s**t/chocolate colored theme ;)
[11:54] <gnomefreak> if printer and router and modem are on one pc and your on other wanting to connect to it use the router ip address
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> [ubotu(n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au)]  unfortunately, kernel is disabled in my configuration
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> why?
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> i want to know the current knerle without connecting to kernel.org
[11:54] <fletch33> ok i guess everyine is a little busy to answer that but thanks anyway
[11:54] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  and the router is going to know abut the printer on the other computer?
[11:55] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  the other computer btw has 2 printers on it.
[11:55] <pjott> Hi!
[11:55] <pjott> I need some help
[11:55] <gnomefreak> not likely if the router and printer are not on same pc
[11:55] <monteiro> my printer (hp psc 750) only prints in  normal , i've the option to draft but stills normal, anyone knows how to change it?
[11:55] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  the router is on both PCs
[11:55] <gnomefreak> what pc is the modem on?
[11:55] <fletch33> monterio same problem i have
[11:56] <gnomefreak> modem=with printers?
[11:56] <pjott> I'm a almost total noob with Linux. I found out that my ubuntu does not support *.rpm files, so I downloaded a converter called "Alien". It was all source code, and a friend of mine told me that I had to install "gcc". How do I do that in the Terminal window? If someone wants to help me, please PM or talk in the channel! :)
[11:56] <wolverian> hmm, ubuntu wants to run eclipse with gcj and nothing else, even if I have the sun j2re/sdk installed
[11:56] <wolverian> is that normal?
[11:57] <monteiro> fletch33 : someone than you have that prob ?
[11:57] <funkyHat> pjott, alien is installed by default in ubuntu
[11:57] <mmiikkee12> pjott: a: why do you need rpm files?
[11:57] <Orborde> wolverian: I have no idea, but try looking at the eclipse documentation.
[11:57] <pjott> funkyHat, is it? I don't have support for that :s I downloaded a copy from ubuntu's WEB Page
[11:57] <mmiikkee12> b: apt-get install gcc
[11:57] <monteiro> what i need to run opera plugins (flash and stuff) ?
[11:57] <wolverian> Orborde, yeah, good idea. it's apparently eclipse that's picking up the VM to use. thanks.
[11:58] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  hold on, let me draw this
[11:58] <mmiikkee12> why do you need the .rpm file?
[11:58] <funkyHat> pjott, but it is much better if you can get an ubuntu .deb of the package you want. or compile the program from source
[11:58] <Cran1988> where can i change my firewall rules?
[11:58] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12, add a 3.4 or a 4.0 to the end
[11:58] <mmiikkee12> oh
[11:58] <mmiikkee12> yes, you're right
[11:58] <Orborde> pjott: Ubuntu has a program called Synaptic where you can find nearly every program you'd ever want...
[11:58] <pjott> mmiikkee12: I want to install LimeWire for Linux. If you know a better P2P Program for Linux with .deb file, you let me know ;)
[11:58] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, listen if the printer and modem are on same pc than you can use the routers ip address
[11:58] <mmiikkee12> bittorrent :)
[11:58] <funkyHat> pjott, open synaptic and install the package named 'gtk-guntella;
[11:58] <F-Jakob> What can be done to bind a button to 3ddesk
[11:58] <rem> aMule ... ?
[11:58] <funkyHat> * gtk-gnutella
[11:59] <F-Jakob> Can't find a way to add custom buttons...
[11:59] <pjott> funkyHat, I have a Norwegian version. Is it called the same you think? And if.. Where do I find it? :)
[11:59] <funkyHat> rem, is aMule gnutella network?
[11:59] <rem> eMule
[11:59] <Cran1988> where can i see my firewall?
[11:59] <rem> edonkey
[11:59] <funkyHat> pjott, system > administration > synaptic package manager
[11:59] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, maybe this is a stupid question but since there are 2 printers why not just put one on each pc?