bmonty_laptopLaserJock: I made some changes to the lpbugs script to make it work for me, you want to try what I have and see if it works correctly for you?12:04
LaserJockbmonty_laptop: sure12:04
bmonty_laptopanyone know whats up with the gpg error on us.archive.ubuntu.com??12:05
bmonty_laptopLaserJock: where should I email it to?12:05
LaserJockmantha at chem.unr.edu12:06
bmonty_laptopon its way12:07
crimsuncrap, got a build-dep on libmagick9-dev ;(12:07
LaserJockbmonty_laptop: all I'm getting now is ": No such file or directory"12:12
bmonty_laptopthats odd, did you make the file executable?12:13
siretartbmonty_laptop: do you have your changes to lpbugs in an bzr archive so I can merge from that?12:14
bmonty_laptopsiretart: no, but I emailed a patch to \sh12:15
bmonty_laptopwhat me to send it to you?12:15
\shbmonty_laptop: what patches?12:15
bmonty_laptop\sh: I made a patch that makes SMTP work for me12:17
bmonty_laptopI emailed it to you about 20 mins ago12:17
\shI had a look on it now12:17
\shif u use AuthRequired=N12:18
bmonty_laptop\sh: I don't use Auth or TLS with me server12:18
bmonty_laptop...my server12:18
\shbmonty_laptop: for this, AUthRequired=N is used12:18
bmonty_laptop\sh: it didn't work for me with AuthRequired=N...I think it was because the if used Auth regardless of the config file setting12:19
bmonty_laptopbut like I said, I'm a python noob so I might have messed something else up12:19
LaserJockwell, neither seem to work for me :(12:20
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\shbmonty_laptop: i'll check12:23
\shbmonty_laptop: ah there12:25
\shone tab too many :)12:25
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\shi'm pushing the changes now in my repos on tiber12:29
\shif someone can test it please?12:29
LaserJock\sh: I will, how do you update with bzr?12:29
\shbzr merge http://tiber.tauware.de/~shermann/motu-tools12:30
bmonty_laptopgotta go grab some dinner...bbl12:32
crimsunbmonty_laptop: wesnoth uploaded.12:33
LaserJock\sh: well, it sent the message12:34
LaserJock\sh: and it show up on revu.tauware.de, sweet12:35
LaserJockthe bug got sent, and it shows up on http://revu.tauware.de/~sistpoty/MoM/index.py?state=accepted12:38
siretartreally impressive what you can do with python :)12:40
hungerHow do I change the version number of the debs I created?12:41
crimsundch -vfoo12:41
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crimsunor edit debian/changelog directly12:41
crimsunwhat's the base Debian version?12:41
crimsunrevision, sorry12:41
hungercrimsun: There is none.12:41
crimsunso it's just x.y.z ?12:42
crimsun(a native package)12:42
hungercrimsun: it is not in debian and it is no native package.12:42
crimsunthen you must append -0ubuntuX12:42
hungerSo how do I use dput? Configuration is explained nicely in the Wiki, but how do I actually upload something?12:45
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crimsundput packages_version_source.changes12:47
crimsundo you have universe upload rights yet?12:47
hungercrimsun: I want to put the stuff on revu.12:48
crimsunoh, that's in there already12:48
hungercrimsun: Got a mail that I may do that.12:48
crimsundput revu packages_version_source.changes12:48
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\shsiretart: u didn't see my lpreportbugs.py yet01:01
\shsiretart: it has a UI01:01
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hungerPlease provide feedback about the packaging. The debs themselves leave much to be desired, but I'd love some feedback on the packaging part before starting to hack on the functionality itself.01:05
siretarthunger: are you the guy who did the google soc project on xen?01:06
hungersiretart: Nope.01:06
hungersiretart: His last debs are from august:-(01:06
siretartthis means way too old?01:06
hungersiretart: Xen changes on a daily basis at the moment.01:06
siretarthunger: you uploaded a lot of binary .debs. these are useless for us :(01:07
siretarthunger: please use dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa for uploading to revu01:07
hungersiretart: Sorry. I used crimsun's dput instruction.01:08
siretarthunger: the dput is not the problem, the way you create the source package is01:08
siretarthunger: you need to get a _source.changes file, not an _i386.changes01:08
siretarthunger: btw, the package linux-xen-patch...deb seems to be empty01:09
siretarthunger: I don't think we can review any linux patches right now, because we decided that we don't want any kernel patches in universe01:10
hungersiretart: You are right... Where did the patch go?01:10
siretarthunger: so lets discuss that first, before uploading a linux xen patch to revu01:10
siretarthunger: lets just assume the user already has a xen patched kernel for now. We'll discuss this issue later01:10
hungersiretart: Sorry if I was a bit overenthusiastic:-)01:10
siretartno problem. you did a great job man!01:11
hungersiretart: I copied a lot from Ed:-)01:11
siretartI just don't want YOU to get disappointed01:11
siretartso please create source packages and upload them01:11
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hungersiretart: Shall I remove the kernel patch before doing so?01:12
siretarthunger: the linux-patch is created from the same source?!01:13
hungersiretart: Yes.01:13
siretartthats weird01:13
hungersiretart: Xen is somewhat of a mess...01:14
siretartdo you have a rationale for this?01:14
siretartlets see01:14
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siretarthunger: how big (in kb) is the patch to the linux kernel?01:14
hungersiretart: Xen's source tar.gz contains "sparse trees" of various kernels. It uses those to build the patch (or prepatched kernel tree).01:14
siretarthow big is the upstream tar.gz?01:15
crimsunthat's ... nasty.01:15
crimsunI can see why RH wants Xen merged, heh.01:15
hungersiretart: The kernel patch is about 2.5MiB.01:15
hungersiretart: The tar.gz is ~4.8MiB01:17
siretarthunger: I fear you'll have to split the upstream sources into pieces for maintainability01:17
hungersiretart: Outch!01:17
siretarthunger: I'd suggest you create a new tarball based on what you used by now without that kernel patch01:17
siretarthunger: this saves you 2.5mb, right?01:17
hungersiretart: The buildsystem covers the whole tree (and is a mess). It will take ages to disentangle.01:18
siretarthm. i see01:18
siretartokay. forget about the split01:18
hungerI could try to remove the netbsd/freebsd kernel trees....01:18
siretarthunger: I'm interested in what you have now. Please create a source package, which just does not create a 'kernel patch package'01:19
hungerThose are about 1.6MiB (unpacked).01:19
siretartthen upload that to revu, I'll take a closer look to what needs to be done01:19
hungersiretart: OK, rolling new debs.01:20
siretarthunger: no, no .debs please ;)01:20
hungersiretart: OK, no debs... rolling whatever it is:-)01:20
hungersiretart: Let me look where the patch went to first though.01:20
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hunger_siretart: sorry, lost my connection.01:25
siretartboah, this late01:30
siretartI need to go to bed01:30
\shsiretart: u should sleep01:30
siretarthunger_: I'll take a look at your packages tomorrow01:30
siretart\sh: you too ;)01:30
\shsiretart: what is your GF telling u..it's weekend and u should have fun with her..not with us :)01:30
\shsiretart: i'm sitting at ogra and drinking rum and coke01:31
crimsunyeah, leave the MOTU fun to those of us with no lives? ;-)01:31
siretart\sh: I was out with her yesterday evening, and I'm invited for lunch at her parents tomorrow, don't worry ;)01:31
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\shcrimsun: from monday on i will hit the universe again :)01:31
siretart\sh: greetings to ogra!01:33
siretartgn8 folks!01:33
ograsiretart, thanks :)01:33
\shgood night siretart :) sleep well friend01:34
crimsunnight german MOTU team ;-)01:38
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LaserJockhi tritium01:59
tritiumhi LaserJock01:59
tritiumsorry, I'm off to dinner...talk to you later on?01:59
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Lathiatslomo, tseng: gnomevfs has avahi support in cvs02:21
LaserJockso, in general, is it good to start with the debian source when merging, or the MoM merged source ?02:32
crimsundepends what the REPORT says02:33
crimsunI generally consult the Debian debdiff first, then look at the merged debdiff02:33
crimsunif there aren't any dropped bits, I tend to look at the merged debdiff first then the Debian debdiff02:34
crimsunI end up checking the Ubuntu debdiff last generally just for Build-Depends if there are dropped bits02:34
crimsunit really depends what the REPORT says. It's a case by case basis.02:35
crimsunyou have to be careful with REPORT, though. Make sure the versions against which MoM is generating deltas are valid02:35
crimsunan example would be xastir, whose deltas were generated using 1.4.0-2 instead of 1.6.0!02:36
crimsunso yeah, just read carefully :-)02:36
LaserJockhmm, never thought of that, good to know02:37
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LaserJockshould I be concerned about config.sub or config.guess stuff in the debdiffs?02:43
Lathiatit depends02:46
Lathiati think theres a way to avoid regenning them but sometimes there isnt02:46
LathiatLaserJock: is thsi without modifying anything at all?02:47
Lathiatfor configure.{in,ac}02:47
Lathiator with mods?02:47
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LaserJockLathiat: well, if I look at any of the debdiffs (I am looking at scigraphica right now) they all have config.guess or config.sub changes that make up most of the diff02:48
Lathiatyeh you ge tthat02:48
LaserJockthat just comes from building the package, right?02:48
Lathiatlike the make clean etc that runs02:49
Lathiatits annoying but yeh02:49
LaserJockwhen making debdiffs for MOTU to upload is it better to debdiff to the MoM package or the Debian package?03:04
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slomo_Lathiat: perfect :) gnome 2.14 will rock03:18
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bmonty_laptopcrimsun: ping03:25
bmonty_laptopLaserJock: did you get the lpbugs script working?03:30
LaserJockyes I did03:31
bmonty_laptopmakes life a little easier, right? :)03:31
LaserJockbmonty_laptop: for merges do you debdiff to Debian source or the MoM source?03:32
LaserJockbmonty_laptop: yes it does ;-)03:32
bmonty_laptopLaserJock: primarily I check why we had an ubuntu version in the first place and then see if the new debian version fixes those problems03:35
LaserJockbmonty_laptop: but when you are making a debdiff for MOTU to upload, what do you debdiff too?03:36
bmonty_laptopI would debdiff from the current package to the new03:37
bmonty_laptopif it is just a sync I don't make a debdiff03:37
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LaserJockwell, but I'm wondering if it is better to debdiff from the source package available from MoM or from the Debian source03:38
bmonty_laptopI use the debian source03:38
LaserJockok, that makes sense. I think I have been diffing to the MoM source mostly.03:39
bmonty_laptopI get the dapper source package, the debian unstable source package and then typically start by trying to build the debian source in a dapper pbuilder03:39
bmonty_laptopthe source in MoM should be the source from debian03:39
LaserJockno, it is the merged source I think03:39
bmonty_laptopone of the files is, there is also the debian source03:40
LaserJockthe .orig.tgz, .dsc, and diff.gz are from the MoM merged version03:41
LaserJockis it important to include the previous Ubuntu changlog entries? The Debian source obviously doesn't have it so if we merge should be reinsert the Ubuntu changelog entries?03:43
bmonty_laptopyeah, you're right....I don't really use those files I guess03:43
bmonty_laptopmy understanding is a sync will overwrite the ubuntu changelog03:43
LaserJockbmonty_laptop: a sync yes, but what about a merge?03:44
bmonty_laptopI'm not sure, I guess I would try to keep them03:45
LaserJockthat is the only thing I like about the MoM merged source03:45
bmonty_laptopso far all of the packages I have looked at have been syncs...at the most I am adding something like a desktop file and making a debdiff from the debian unstable source03:46
LaserJockbmonty_laptop: lucky, I think I have had only 1 sync03:47
LaserJockbmonty_laptop: maybe I am doing more than I need to03:47
bmonty_laptopor being thourough so the merges are good :)03:49
bmonty_laptopdamn, the wesnoth upload that crimsun did for me got rejected03:53
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LaserJockbmonty_laptop: so i've got 1 sync in 8 total so far04:13
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LaserJockhi minghua04:28
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minghuahello LaserJock04:28
bradbhey all04:29
bradbAnyone know the story behind the avifile dup bug madness?04:29
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bmonty_laptopbradb: nope, but if you find out, I'd like to know04:33
LaserJockwas siretart testing something for the bug reporting scripts?04:34
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LaserJockso what do I do if the MoM merge is good? should I just update the bug report with that info?05:05
bmonty_laptopgood night LaserJock05:08
crimsund'oh, I just missed bmonty05:12
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LaserJockhi bmonty_laptop05:41
bmonty_laptophey LaserJock...I'm back, the kid doesn't want to sleep right now :(05:41
LaserJockI think crimsun wanted to say something to you05:41
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crimsunbmonty_laptop: pong05:43
bmonty_laptopcrimsun: the wesnoth package was rejected05:46
bmonty_laptoplots of md5sum errors05:47
crimsunhmm, that's odd05:48
bmonty_laptopfirst time I've seen it05:48
crimsunyeah, I've never seen that either, and the md5sums check out here05:48
bmonty_laptopso, I wanted to see if I should make a new debdiff and put it up on my website for you to DL, or if you wanted to try again with what is on malone05:49
crimsunI'm using the one I generated here05:50
crimsunwhich I've just placed on http://www.sh.nu~/crimsun/05:50
crimsun61dc63add482b1d43c8b6e79f3000f45  wesnoth_1.0.1-1ubuntu1.diff.gz05:50
crimsun502c172143345c80f04edf644e4009c7  wesnoth_1.0.1-1ubuntu1.dsc05:50
crimsunf4801a805c143ca827c155f191545849  wesnoth_1.0.1-1ubuntu1_source.changes05:50
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bmonty_laptopI get the same05:53
crimsunok, I'll bump the version and reupload05:53
Burglaptopcrimsun, are you getting ahead of the debian packager for debian?05:57
crimsunBurglaptop: ...no05:57
crimsunBurglaptop: this is from MoM05:58
Burglaptopcrimsun, ok, just checking. As the wesnoth debian packager is the current head of the wesnoth release process..05:58
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crimsunBurglaptop: I generally don't break UVF at all unless there's a really good reason05:58
bmonty_laptopBurglaptop: this is their package with a small modification05:59
Burglaptopok, just checking05:59
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LaserJockI have a debian package that has build-dep "xlibmesa-gl-dev | libglu1-xorg-dev" and MoM has "libgl1-mesa-dev, libglu1-mesa-dev"06:08
bmonty_laptophas anyone tried to get the bzr packages from jbailey's archive? (from \sh's email on REVU2)06:09
LaserJockbmonty_laptop: that is what I used06:09
bmonty_laptopwhere did you get jbailey's key?06:10
LaserJockbmonty_laptop: I didn't06:10
bmonty_laptopLaserJock: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUGLUTransition06:10
LaserJockso do I need "libgl1-mesa-dev, libglu1-mesa-dev" or "libgl1-mesa-dev|libglu1-mesa-dev" ?06:11
bmonty_laptopyou just forced apt to ignore sigs?06:11
LaserJockbmonty_laptop: or synaptic ;-)06:11
crimsunyou need "libgl1-mesa-dev | libgl-dev, libglu1-mesa-dev | libglu-dev"06:11
LaserJockcrimsun: ah thanks06:12
crimsunbmonty_laptop: Subject: wesnoth_1.0.1-1ubuntu2_source.changes ACCEPTED06:15
lifelesssiretart: ?06:15
crimsunmust have been a glitch in the matrix06:16
bmonty_laptopcrimsun: ok, thanks for your help06:17
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moquistI'm new to packaging, and I've used dh_make and dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot on the game 'apricots'.  dpkg-buildpackage seems to build [almost?]  everything, and then it errs out.  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4452 shows the error I'm getting; I don't understand why fakeroot isn't taking care of the "Permission denied" problem.06:17
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crimsunmoquist: the error's pretty simple; you used an absolute path06:18
crimsunyou can't create /usr/share/apricots, but you _can_ create $(pwd)/debian/apricots/usr/share/apricots06:20
moquistcrimsun: thx for helping.  This isn't my project, so I haven't done anything to speak of other than downloading the tarball and running dh_make, etc.  Is it a problem that the makefile specifies "prefix = /usr"?06:20
moquistcrimsun: right.  So is this something that I need to change on the command line or in the Makefile?06:20
crimsunthe original Makefile should be modified to accept $DESTDIR06:20
Amaranthsmack upstream around for a bit06:20
moquistI can google for that, unless you have a good example to point me to.  (I guess I could apt-get source anything else, right?  ;)06:21
crimsunshould be fairly straightforward; check the Debian New Maintainer's Guide06:21
moquistok, so I just prepend any absolute paths in the Makefile with $(DESTDIR).  Seems quite straightforward.06:24
crimsunyep, and modify debian/rules to pass it to your $(MAKE) invocations06:25
crimsun(some people swear by cdbs, which handles this for you)06:25
lifelessand others swear at cdbs :)06:26
crimsunhehe, indeed06:26
Amaranthcdbs is great when it works06:29
Amaranthwhen it doesn't you get to debug wtf cdbs thinks it's doing :)06:29
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bmonty_laptopok, now for real.....good night all!06:42
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moquistcrimsun: debian/rules already has "$(MAKE) install DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/apricots" in the install target; what could I need to change?06:58
crimsunmoquist: the actual Makefile06:59
moquistAlso, my Makefile change goes away because apricots_0.2.6.orig.tar.gz is unpacked every time I run dpkg-buildpackage.06:59
moquistcrimsun: Oh... you said "modify debian/rules to pass it to your $(MAKE) invocations".  I guess I don't understand that...07:00
crimsunmoquist: apparently the debian/rules already has that07:00
crimsunmoquist: does the app using ./configure?07:00
moquistI really appreciate your help, BTW.  It's very nice to pop into a channel and get a response from a helpful person.  :)07:00
moquistYes, it uses ./configure.07:01
crimsunthen you'll need to modify the appropriate Makefile.in07:01
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moquistcrimsun: do I want to change "prefix = @prefix@" to "prefix = $(DESTDIR)/@prefix@" in Makefile.in?  That doesn't seem quite right...07:03
crimsunmoquist: hmm, no, that should be enough07:04
crimsunout of curiosity, paste debian/rules onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:04
moquistcrimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d445307:05
moquist"that should be enough"... what should be enough?07:05
crimsunwhat Makefile.in currently has.07:07
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crimsunplease paste apricots/Makefile.{am,in} onto paste07:07
crimsunif there's a Makefile.am, that will suffice07:07
moquistoh, I did .in first: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/445507:07
moquistapricots/Makefile.am: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/445607:08
Amaranthsmack upstream around a bit07:14
moquistuh-oh.  schmack-schmack.07:14
crimsunyour Makefile.am needs to use "$(mkinstalldirs) $(DESTDIR)$(pkgdatadir)"07:15
crimsunthen you need to autoreconf07:15
moquistso I change apricots/Makefile.am (replacing all "$(mkinstalldirs) $(pkgdatadir)/" with $(DESTDIR) inserted, and then "autoreconf" somehow...however I do that.  (in debian/rules?)07:18
crimsunmoquist: yep. Just make sure you add the necessary build-depends to debian/control07:18
moquistok, I think.07:18
crimsunautoreconf before calling ./configure07:18
moquistdo the "-rm -f $(pkgdatadir)..." lines in Makefile.am need to change?07:19
crimsunelse it'll try to remove /usr/share/apricots/07:19
moquistso debain/rules has a ./configure line, and I should add a line above that that says 'autoreconf"?07:19
crimsunand you've already seen what attempting to create it incurs07:19
moquistheh -- yes.07:20
crimsunyou probably need a couple parameters like -f -i07:20
moquistwhich ones?  There's nothing in my path or in this source tree named 'autoreconf'.07:21
moquist...so I'm not sure how to know which parameters I'll need.07:21
crimsunyou need autoconf and automake1.$foo installed07:22
crimsun$foo being one of {6,7,8,9}07:23
moquistnot 4?  hmm.07:23
moquist1.4-p6-9 is what I got.07:23
crimsungenerally you want to pick the lowest07:23
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crimsun4 may be too old, which is why there should be a b-d on autotools-dev07:24
moquistsorry I'm dumb.  b-d?07:25
crimsunyou don't need an explicit b-d on autotools-dev, since automake1.$foo pulls it in07:26
moquistthere is.  dh_make put that in for me.07:26
moquistheh...so I should take out the b-d on autotools-dev and put it one for automake?07:26
crimsun", autoconf, automake1.6"07:26
moquistI'm inching my way along, here.  Now I get this when I run dpkg-buildpackage: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/445807:29
crimsunyou need libtool as a b-d, too07:30
moquisthmm.  I'm getting lazy.  I only searched for "libtoolize".07:31
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moquistcrimsun: success!07:36
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crimsuntritium: if you need me to walk you through a MoM, just let me know07:48
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highvoltageFriday night I took the plunge and decided to get involved with motu again.08:31
highvoltageogra suggested i start with merges.08:31
highvoltageso what i've been doing is downloading files from http://revu.tauware.de/~sistpoty/MoM/index.py?state=new08:32
highvoltagedoing the "dpkg-source -x *.dsc, cd newdir, dch, debuild -kCD622E56, lpbygs.py -n packagename" thing.08:33
highvoltageis that basically what it involves? or are there more steps I need to do?08:33
crimsungranted I'm doing everything still by hand08:35
crimsun(i.e., pointing Web browser to http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/ , resuming from the bottom, reading REPORT, etc.)08:36
crimsunmost things should be fairly straightforward08:36
crimsunif you have questions, I'll be around for a bit doing merges before I nod off08:36
Treenaksmorning all08:37
TreenaksTry #2 at waking up..08:37
crimsun'morning, Treenaks08:37
highvoltagethanks crimsun.08:37
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highvoltagecrimsun: how do i know that i've done it succesfully, do i have to wait for the launchpad cron job and then look at my bugs section?08:37
crimsunhighvoltage: well, the difficult part is inspecting what does (not) need to be merged08:38
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crimsunif you inspect the REPORT and the ubuntu debdiff, you should be able to get an idea whether you need to inspect the debian debdiff before inspecting the merged debdiff08:38
highvoltageok, i haven't actually done that so far.08:42
highvoltageso if i get Previous Ubuntu Version: 0.8.6f-2ubuntu108:43
highvoltageCurrent Debian Version:  0.8.6g-208:43
highvoltagethen a merge is needed?08:43
crimsunyou have to inspect REPORT and the ubuntu debdiff, then possibly the debian debdiff, before inspecting the merged debdiff08:45
highvoltagewhere can I find the debian debdiff?08:47
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minghuahi, is it possible to request a re-MoM?08:51
crimsunlike a give-back, or...?08:51
minghuaI'm working on grace6, and the MoM page doesn't have the correct debian base version08:51
crimsundoes the 'b' version of the page have the incorrect one, too?08:52
minghuaI got the correct one from snapshot.debian.net, and the ubuntu patch turn out to be quite simple08:52
crimsunI've had a couple mis-MoMs08:52
minghuaHmm, let me check08:52
crimsunyeah, in that case just use the diff from a main Debian mirror as the base08:53
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minghuacrimsun: the "b" log has the correct base version: * Selected morgue as base08:54
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minghuacrimsun: but scott's MoM page is still wrong08:54
crimsunminghua: ah, then it's up to us to generate the correct debdiff08:55
minghuaOkay, I see.  Then I should use my own name in the resync changelog, I suppose?08:55
crimsunyou should always use your own name in the changelog08:56
minghuacrimsun: but what if the package in scott's MoM page is just right?08:56
crimsunminghua: you're still the one who inspected it08:56
crimsunplus Scott gets bombed with ACCEPTs if we leave his e-mail, which leaves him nonplussed ;-)08:57
minghuathat sounds fair :-)08:57
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crimsunwfmath has binaries that have undergone the cxx transition in both ubuntu and debian, resulting in different binary names ;(09:24
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highvoltagethat's one weird emoticon09:41
crimsunit's a sad baby jesus09:41
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crimsunmorning. (Well actually I'm off to bed.)10:09
highvoltagegoodnight crimsun10:09
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Gloubiboulgahello pef10:43
pefGloubiboulga: already awake ;)10:43
Gloubiboulgayep :)10:44
GloubiboulgaI've sent my work on revu yesterday10:50
Gloubiboulgabut I can't see it on the site main page, is this normal ?10:50
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pefGloubiboulga: it should appears on revu within 5 minutes (cron job)11:01
GloubiboulgaThis is 5 big minutes then :/11:01
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pefhello herve11:30
hunger_Good morning.11:47
hungerHow do I set conffiles in a multi binary source deb?12:02
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pefsomeone using lvm snapshot feature with chroots ?12:18
Nafallomy chroots are pbuilders :-)12:27
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hungerpef: Yep, doing so since yesterday.12:31
hungerpef: So far it works pretty well.12:32
pefhunger: no drawbacks ?12:34
hungerNafallo: I was too stupid to set up pbuilders, so I had to fall back to lvm.12:35
hungerpef: Never used pbuilder... but lvm snapshot works pretty well for me.12:35
Nafallohunger: ehm... oki...12:35
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NafalloPbuilderHowto :-)12:35
hungerpef: I will probably write a couple of scripts to automate the common tasks.12:36
hungerNafallo: Yeap, read that, debootstrap fails when run by pbuilder.12:36
Nafallo--distribution breezy then :-)12:36
hungerNafallo: Same behaviour.12:37
hungerNafallo: running debootstrap to setup the lvm volumes to snapshot works for both breezy and dapper by the way.12:37
Nafalloand set DEBOOTSTRAP="debootstrap" in your pbuilderrc :-)12:37
hungerNafallo: It was running debootstrap. Dunno which options it used.12:38
hungerNafallo: Anyway: the snapshots work great and there is no messing around with tar files.12:38
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hungerHow can I log into revu's website?01:08
tsengthe wiki tells you01:09
tsengwhich is conveniently linked from the top of REVU01:09
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Treenakstseng: "An Ode to the Lost Art of Reading"01:12
herverea... what? :-)01:15
Treenaksherve: ;)01:15
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\shcan someone try this url? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs-advanced?field.searchtext=&search=Search&orderby=-priority%2C-severity&field.assignee=motumergers&field.unassigned.used=&field.include_dupes.used=&field.statusexplanation=&advanced=1&field.status%3Alist=PendingUpload&field.status-empty-marker=1&field.severity-empty-marker=1&field.attachmenttype-empty-marker=103:13
Gloubiboulga\sh: Timeout error03:15
\shwonderful...filing a bug :)03:16
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sivang\sh: what is this link supposed to give?03:27
thierry_is it normal that some package are not in the upstream list of choices of malone (like gworldclock)03:28
\shthen they're not in the database03:31
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zuldoes anyone have a simple way of getting a list of all the packages in universe?03:45
Seveassource or binary packages?03:47
Seveascurl http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/source/Sources.gz | zcat | grep Package: | cut -f 2 -d ' '03:48
zuli think there might be a need for motukernel03:50
\shthere is definitly _no need for any motukernel_03:52
zul\sh: what about the kernel module sources in universe03:52
\shzul: kernel module sources are ok..but no binary kernel in universe...we discussed this already and we declined this request03:53
zul\sh: thats what i meant03:53
Seveashmm, I uploaded a package to revu, but it does not show up03:54
TreenaksSeveas: wait 5 minutes03:54
Treenaksor so I'm told03:54
Seveas15 minutes ago :)03:54
TreenaksSeveas: kick siretart03:54
Seveasneh, kick myself03:54
SeveasI switched to a different key for packages03:55
SeveasI'll ping siretart03:55
Treenaksyou have multiple keys?03:56
Seveasyeah, for packaging I have a signing onley key03:57
Treenaksa singing key :)03:57
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bmonty_laptophi Kyral04:09
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KyralHows that for something to wake up to? :D04:14
Kyraljoke tseng04:15
sivangKyral: I'd rather you played something of the Bare Naked Ladies :)04:15
tsengthere is nothing funny about it04:15
Kyralwell, pun, randomness, take your pick04:16
bmonty_laptopmetallica is great for waking up04:16
Kyralsivang, I don't have any04:16
sivangKyral: "Brian Wilson" would suffice for a melancolic awakening :)04:16
tsengConverge is great for waking up04:16
KyralI need to rip my Dad's ZZ Top CDs04:16
sivangtseng: US band?04:16
sivangKyral: oh, ZZ TOp are cool04:16
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Kyral"'cause every girl's crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man"04:17
janimoanybody form the Motu IM team around04:17
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KyralI really need to hit the P2P networks...04:18
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hungerHmmm... how do I update the sources from upstream?04:35
hungerslomo_ : Doesen't that need a watch file?04:35
slomo_no... uscan needs a watchfile... uupdate only needs a tarball04:35
slomo_but be carefull when the tarball is tar.bz2... sometimes dpkg-source repacks it for you with changes04:36
hungerslomo_: Ah, ok. Thanks!04:36
hungerslomo_: Thanks for the warning!04:37
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slomo_where changes in this case means renamed toplevel directory... bla-x.y.z becomes bla-x.y.z.orig04:39
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KyralHow do I find the path to ctl0?05:00
KyralNeed it for Cedega config05:00
Kyralwhatever device ALSA is using ;P05:00
KyralIt has a field for "CTL Device" and "PCM Device"05:01
thierry_hi, I'm trying to do a script that would get the source of an ubuntu package and cd insinde this source once downloaded... I just don't know how to get the package_version in the output of apt-get source... (in bash)05:02
Kyralits set to "hw" right now05:02
Kyralthe tooltip for the box says "The Linux path to the CTL device (setting for ctl0) used to control the volume05:03
Kyraland the PCM one says "Path to the pcm device (Setting for pcm0) that generates the sound"05:04
KyralI'll just use OSS for now05:06
KyralI know there is a reason I compiled backwards compatibility into my kernel for it05:06
slomo_why don't you use the standard kernel? ;)05:06
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Kyralslomo_, because I tweak :D05:16
Kyralits the same reason I jumped to Dapper. I get bored if things are too stable05:16
Kyralanyway, Need For Speed Underground 2 calls05:16
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bmonty_laptopare we still sending email to elmo for sync requests?05:35
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\shbmonty_laptop: or ping him on -devel but I think he sleeps05:43
bmonty_laptopI usually just send him an email...sometimes the package gets synced....sometimes not :)05:43
\shhe just came back from ubz05:44
\shshowering time...:)05:44
slomo_\sh: hf :)05:44
jbaileybmonty_laptop: The gpg key for that archive is in the snapshots directory05:51
GloubiboulgaI'm packaging a french software, should the description in debian/control be in english, or french is ok ?05:55
Gloubiboulgathe software deals with french vocabulary05:55
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GreaseMonkeyow CRASH05:58
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siretartn'evening, folks06:33
thierry_I searcing something like a file finder for bash... is it possible with grep?06:34
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thierry_herve : thanks!06:36
hervebut it won't search inside the file contents06:36
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minghuajust user grep in find then :-)06:39
herveif you have a filename pattern, yes :-)06:39
omegHi guys. If I wanted to make suggestions to the Ubuntu art/aesthetics team, then how would I be able to contact them (or any institution that accepts such suggestions)? I intend to make elaborate descriptions with image references.06:39
hervemaybe there is an #ubuntu-art?06:40
herveor search the wiki06:40
omeg#ubuntu-art doesn't seem to exist.06:40
omegThanks :)06:40
\shslomo_: ping06:42
slomo_\sh: pong06:42
\shslomo_: u had problems with scons before on the buildds, right?06:42
slomo_\sh: no, mbreit was this06:42
\shslomo_: ah06:42
\shgrmpf..not here...06:43
\shi need to know the solution for this problem http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/a/ardour/0.99-3ubuntu1/ardour_0.99-3ubuntu1_20051110-0202-i386-failed.gz06:43
slomo_\sh: i told him to come here ;)06:43
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siretarthey slomo_, hi \sh!06:44
mbreithi guys06:44
siretarthow are things?06:44
slomo_hi siretart06:44
\shmbreit: can u have a look at http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/a/ardour/0.99-3ubuntu1/ardour_0.99-3ubuntu1_20051110-0202-i386-failed.gz and tell me what was the solution for this scons problem on the buildd?06:44
herve\sh, nice python traceback :-)06:44
\shherve: it's bloody scons..it works locally in a pbuilder06:45
herveChecking for C header file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreMIDI.framework/Headers/CoreMIDI.h... no06:46
mbreit\sh: iirc infinity did some dirty work-around... he did not tell me any details...06:46
herveit seems like that SYSMIDI variable is only filled on NextStep-like systems06:46
\shmbreit: ok..so it needs some buildd admin06:46
herveor you lack another build-dependency for midi support06:47
mbreit\sh: the problem is that the scons on the buildd sometimes says that gcc would fail but there's no error message from gcc... ardour is not the only package with that problem06:47
\shmbreit: I thought so..because pbuilder doesn't complain06:48
herveand scons was already updated/merged?06:48
mbreitherve: there that's no problem with dependencies.. it's just scons <-> gcc on the buildd06:48
\shi'm just leaving now ogra for today...bbl06:49
slomo_*sigh* someone needs to clean binary NEW :(06:52
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herveso many new packages from Debian?06:53
slomo_herve: maybe... but i need exactly one :P libmagick++9-dev06:54
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herveha... life! :-)06:54
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KyralI got tired of fighting NVidia ;P06:54
slomo_Kyral: that was the reason why i bought a radeon 9200 :P06:55
KyralI meant having to recompile the drivers :P06:55
Kyralfor some reason with the Vanilla kernel I have to recompile the NVidia driver on reboot06:55
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herveI just ruined my zope instance :-(06:58
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KyralI should bootchart...07:16
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hervewhich brings me to the question... do you also have the feeling dapper gets longer to boot than breezy?07:16
KyralFor me its a matter of my 4 ReiserFS partitions being checked :P07:17
SEJeffherve: Why not use bootchart and set up a comparison07:17
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SEJeffI would, but I am waiting on harddrives from newegg for my second test machine07:18
KyralIMO, we should put the bootchart deb in the same repo as the Bazzar tools07:19
KyralAnd I really have to clean up my bootdir07:22
thierry_I'm searching a bash command to just find all .desktop files in a directory... find give me strange output, what would be the options to use or wich other command?07:22
KyralI have like 5 kernels07:22
KyralBrb, and will throw the bootchart up07:23
slomo_thierry_: find $directory - name '*.desktop*07:23
thierry_slomo- : so simple!07:25
herve"-name" attached, no?07:25
slomo_oh, yes07:26
slomo_thierry_: find $directory -name '*.desktop*07:26
hervehmm, and "*.desktop" ?07:26
herveI don't know if the trailing star is intentional07:26
SEJeffthierry_: find . -name '*.desktop' should work07:26
slomo_herve: yes, you're right... not my day ;)07:27
SEJeffthierry_: find interprets wildcards strangely if they are not quoted07:27
mitsuhikohiho motus, sorry for the stupid question but is there a gnome developement channel?07:27
lifelessmitsuhiko: for packagin ?07:27
herveseveral, even07:27
lifelessmitsuhiko: or for upstream coding ?07:27
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mitsuhikolifeless: no for gnome "api" questions and similar questions07:28
SEJeffminghua: irc.gimp.org #gnome07:28
KyralLets see what this looks like :D07:28
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SEJeffnick autocomplete messed up07:28
SEJeffmitsuhiko: #gnome has been dead all morning though07:29
mitsuhikoSEJeff: thx. i will try07:30
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SEJeffmitsuhiko: #gnome-love has had more activity today07:30
herveeverybody loves gnome :-)07:31
SEJeffexactly :)07:31
KyralYah there is my problem07:32
KyralReiserFsck takes a LONG time07:32
KyralI don't have enough buffer to transform every partition into ext307:33
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polpakHas anyone tried to package the Nvidia Cg Toolset for debian? I saw that someone had started working on it but it was a while ago07:52
polpakerr not debian, ubuntu07:52
polpakI know there is a debian package for it07:52
polpakbut there's nothing in the ubuntu repositories07:53
KyralLOL I crashed BMP07:53
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KyralAnyone good with Filesystems>08:08
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KyralHow the heck do I mount an ext3 FS in fstab with r/w for all?09:25
SEJeffKyral: /dev/hda1       /directory           ext3    defaults        0       209:28
Kyralain't working09:28
KyralI'm just gonna chmod 777 the mountpoint09:28
Kyralor chown the thing to my user09:29
lifelessKyral: mounting it gives it the stored permissions on it09:31
Kyralyah yah...I rmemeber09:31
lifelessI think you want uid= and gid= options09:31
lifelessbut I don't think ext3 supports them09:32
KyralThose don't apply to the ext3 fs09:32
KyralI just mounted and chowned09:32
Kyraland that sounds INCREDIBLY wrong09:32
lifelessmount;fsck;chown;unmount ?09:33
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Kyralthat was bad09:33
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thierry_how could I take a list of files and open all of them with gedit at once in a bash script?10:14
crimsunthierry_: there are many ways to obtain the list10:32
crimsunthierry_: just pipe the list through wc -l10:32
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thierry_crimsun : wc -l myfile.txt give me  1  myfile.txt10:35
crimsunthierry_: what are the contents of myfile.txt? Use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl if necessary10:36
thierry_crimsun : /home/thierry/dev/gimp-2.2.8/data/misc/gimp.desktop.in.in10:37
crimsunright, so that's just that file10:37
thierry_that the output of a command that I used in the script, and now I want to open this file with gedit... but sometimes I could get like 5 files to open with gedit...10:38
thierry_and I wonder how to do this inside of my script10:38
crimsunso, gedit $(cat myfile.txt)10:38
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thierry_crimsun : thanks! it's working10:40
crimsunthierry_: np10:41
crimsun'lo ivoks10:41
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thierry_crimsun : I have an other question10:41
crimsunbootchart rocks10:41
thierry_crimsun : package=`zenity --entry --text "Which package source do you want?"`10:41
thierry_apt-get source $package > output.txt10:41
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KyralI think the concept could be applied to other things10:42
thierry_output.txt is not the same thing than when I would do it directly in a shell10:42
thierry_crimsun : and I really don't see why10:42
Kyraltroubleshooting things that is10:42
thierry_there's missing the last line (wich I need)10:42
Kyralsomething segfaults we could use something like bootchart to trace the threads graphically10:43
crimsunthierry_: I'm unclear what you're attempting to do10:44
crimsuni.e., why do you need the output from ''apt-get source $package''?10:45
thierry_getting the complete output of  the command apt-get source $package in a file to after that get the exact name of the directory where the package has been unpacked10:45
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thierry_crimsun : any idea why it acts like that?10:47
crimsunthierry_: I don't see any difference (except due to buffering)10:48
thierry_crimsun : can you give me the last line you get?10:49
crimsunfrom which?10:49
thierry_and what do you mean by buffering10:49
thierry_both since it's the same!10:49
crimsunI get the Fetched... as the last line if I use shell redirection10:49
crimsunotherwise I get Applying...10:50
thierry_ho ok but retry to get source at the same place10:50
crimsunI don't understand what you're asking10:51
crimsunapt-get source doesn't tell the invoking user what the name of the extracted directory is10:51
thierry_because the output is different between the first time (when you download it) and the second time when you just check it (with the same command)10:51
crimsun(I'm on Dapper, but it makes no difference)10:51
crimsun"just check it"?10:52
crimsunoh, you want the Skipping unpack...?10:52
thierry_and it gives dpkg-source: extracting gedit in gedit-2.12.1 for the first time10:53
thierry_well because you get, for example gedit-2.12.1 and that's the directory where it's unpacked10:53
thierry_you were talking about some buffering thing... what's that? maybe that's my problem10:54
crimsunno, I don't think the buffering has anything to do with what you're asking10:54
crimsunwhich I still don't have any idea about10:54
crimsundpkg-source isn't going to clobber what exists10:54
thierry_crimsun : but the problem is that I don't get Skipping unpack in output.txt and I need it10:55
crimsunbut why do you need it?10:55
thierry_to get for example gedit-2.12.1 : "Skipping unpack of already unpacked source in gedit-2.12.110:56
thierry_after that I know that the package gedit is in gedit-2.12.110:56
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thierry_crimsun : do you see why now?10:57
crimsunwhy can't you just use dpkg-source's output?10:57
crimsungrep for extracting and awk out the appropriate field10:57
crimsunwhich is just one of $foo ways to do it10:58
thierry_awk? can you give an example?10:58
tsengawk '{print $2}'10:58
tsengwhere 2 is the second space seperated field10:58
tseng(or is it the third?)10:59
crimsunapt-get source $package | grep extracting | awk '{ print $5 }'10:59
tsengcrimsun: man now what will he learn10:59
thierry_ok but to grep it I need the las line! I'll put my script on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl so it's going to be more clear10:59
crimsunthierry_: no, you don't need the last line. There's no need to fetch the source twice.11:00
thierry_crimsun : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/450211:00
crimsunthierry_: the -first- time you invoke dpkg-source from apt-get source, the directory is printed. I just gave you example syntax.11:01
thierry_I need the las line in a variable because I do a if grep $variable in it11:01
crimsunwhy do you need the last line?11:01
crimsunwhat precisely is the variable supposed to contain?11:01
thierry_I see what you mean, I'll try it11:01
thierry_crimsun look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/450211:02
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crimsunthierry_: that's overly complicated.11:04
thierry_crimsun : can you show me how to simpleise it?11:04
crimsunthierry_: just dpkg-deb -c foo.deb|grep '.desktop'11:04
crimsunwell, what are you trying to do?11:05
crimsunI presume you're going to edit the .desktop?11:05
thierry_crimsun : in fact I'm trying to do a script to fix these issues : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseDesktopFileAbsolutePath#preview11:06
crimsunif you're going to do that, then your current script is fine (just needs to handle cases where desktop is made from desktop.in)11:06
hungerhi there.11:06
crimsunyou need to replace your current apt-get source line with the one that I gave you11:06
crimsunhi hunger11:07
thierry_I want to download the source package, cd in it, find the *.desktop and *.deskopt.* in the source, edit them with gedit, dch -i, dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot -S , cd back in dev, and debdiff for a patch11:07
crimsunyou'll want to set -e at the top of the script (underneath the hashbang)11:08
crimsunthen you can eliminate the echo "foo"11:08
crimsunalso, simplify your current if clause to check if $(cat output.txt) is a directory, then go from there11:10
crimsunonce you use the grep+awk modification, there's no point in checking the last line11:10
crimsunin fact, that entire if clause can be eliminated, because it doesn't make any sense11:11
thierry_k going to try that11:14
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siretarthey janimo!11:19
janimohey siretart11:19
janimoI still haven;t sent the mail :)11:19
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hungerhi siretart.11:20
janimocould not set up gmail smtp from Tb although a while ago a could11:20
kapputuhello everyon,e I want to contribute to the ubuntu community11:20
kapputuwhere do I get started?11:20
hungersiretart: Finally got into contact with the GSoC debian-xen guy.11:20
hungersiretart: We will work together on improving the xen debs.11:20
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siretartjanimo: its about your account ;)11:21
siretarthey hunger!11:21
siretarthunger: great news! :)11:21
kapputuI want to help, I need some guidance11:21
siretartkapputu: hey!11:21
kapputuhi siretart11:21
siretartkapputu: in which part do you want to contribute?11:21
kapputuI don't know11:21
janimosiretart, I know, I still did not send yoy the encrypted mail11:21
siretartkapputu: what do you think you could contribute?11:21
kapputuat present I need to be told what to do11:21
hungersiretart: That ass has a Quad Xeon machine to test on... while I have to use a virtual machine on my laptop... the world is soooo unfair;-)11:22
kapputumy English skills are good, so I think I can contribute to the documentation11:22
kapputumy coding skills in Perl, Java are fairly good and I'm learning Python11:22
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siretartkapputu: great! we have a lovely DocTeam, which always needs help11:22
kapputuI'm not good with Art work11:22
siretartkapputu: Burgundavia is one of the leads of them11:22
kapputuso right now I need to be told what to do11:23
siretartBurgundavia: May I introduce you a volunteer for the DocTeam: kapputu :)11:23
kapputuhi Burgundavia11:23
Burgundaviasiretart, cheers11:23
Burgundaviasalut kapputu11:23
crimsun'lo janimo11:23
janimohey crimsun11:23
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Burgundaviakapputu, you want to join #ubuntu-doc?11:24
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janimoany CDBS fans here? I have a couple questions11:30
janimoit sets CFLAGS by default and I want it to leave them alone as set in the project makefile11:31
janimoI'll just use good ole debhelper since that works even if a bit ugly11:34
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thierry_crimsun : the output of apt-get source $package | grep extracting | awk '{ print $5 }' is perfect but I can't get it in $path11:43
thierry_maybe I do something wrong, how would you do it?11:43
crimsunpath=$(apt-get source $package | grep extracting | awk '{ print $5 }')11:45
thierry_ho ok11:45
crimsunback later.11:45
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